[12:00] <erUSUL> zdennis, ???
[12:00] <zdennis> dooglus, isn't wipe somethin that has to do with securely removing files?
[12:00] <zdennis> yes erUSUL ?
[12:00] <dooglus> zdennis: it's a way of writing random junk over things to wipe them.  what did you want to do to your swap space?
[12:00] <kameron> zdennis i think that's shred, but it could be both. i've never used wipe.
[12:00] <init> kameron, ah....
[12:00] <erUSUL> zdennis, why would you want to clean up swap?
[12:01] <init> dr_willis, well, all i want is to be able to see a drive from any computer. be it ftp or otherwise
[12:01] <kameron> dooglus: it looks backwards to me
[12:01] <kameron> init: what's that?
[12:01] <init> what would be the easiest way? fora linux beginner
[12:01] <dooglus> kameron: you said "ln a b would make b link to a".  that's the same as the man page is saying, just replace 'a' with TARGET and 'b' with LINK_NAME
[12:01] <kameron> init: to mount it?
[12:01] <czr> dooglus, a is a link to b. but the proper name is symbolic link (or soft link), not link (that's a different thing)
[12:01] <BooZee> should I remove the old kernel from the system?
[12:01] <kameron> init: and r/w?
[12:01] <czr> ah, not -s, so normal links
[12:01] <zdennis> ok...here's my issue. Say I have Firefox open and 8,000 pages open, and firefox is usijng 500Mb of RAM, 300MB is VIRT
[12:01] <mwe> dooglus: right
[12:01] <init> kameron, i was talking about the config you mentioned. i'm sick and dont have time to learn how to configure this drive to work under ubuntu
[12:01] <kameron> zdennis: how is that an issue/
[12:01] <zdennis> I have another application open using 500Mb of memory, and say i Only have 512Mb of memory
[12:02] <jcole> diesel: i ran into problems trying to do it that way
[12:02] <zdennis> so part of program B is in swap. I close firefox, and I'd like program B to be moved out of swap
[12:02] <kameron> init: it's a simple line in your fstab to read/write the drive, and give appropriate permissions.
[12:02] <czr> the man page should read: ln a b creates a new link with name 'b' that will link to the same inode to which name 'a' already links ;-)
[12:02] <jcole> diesel: are there any ubuntu floppy install images available?
[12:02] <erUSUL> zdennis, that's the job of the kernel
[12:02] <init> kameron, well. you'll have to bare with me. what is an fstab and how do i change this?
[12:02] <kameron> init: have a search on google or ubuntu.com, i'm sure they'll tell you the line. i don't have my hands on it. i'm actually on windows right now.
[12:02] <chrisx1> how do i fix this ,with out rebooting eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[12:02] <czr> zdennis, how did you measure the memory use?
[12:02] <diesel> jcole: not sure...i can look.  What problems did you run into?
[12:02] <erUSUL> zdennis, you can't force it
[12:03] <czr> zdennis, VIRT != memory usage
[12:03] <zdennis> czr, i am running top
[12:03] <Rage__> AGH! xv works with the ati driver but not fglrx! ffs.
[12:03] <czr> look above
[12:03] <Rage__> why?
[12:03] <DjLinX> i installed proftpd and when i type it into a brower i get "Access to the port number has been disabled for security reasons." doesn't anyone know how to fix
[12:03] <fluvvell> someone was talking ftp servers, anybody familiar with proftpd? I have a question...
[12:03] <kameron> init: fstab is your file system table. it's at /etc/fstab i believe. i'm really rusty though. "cat /etc/fstab" to view it. you need to add a line there to be able to read/write hfs. but, writing may not be supported by the kernel. i only ever read from an hfs drive.
[12:03] <zdennis> erUSUL, that sucks
[12:03] <Agiofws> hello
[12:04] <zdennis> czr, swap space used "234916k"     ....   total Mem free: "201960k"
[12:04] <kameron> fluvvell: yep, i've done proftpd server, etc. what's up?
[12:04] <dooglus> zdennis: which of the 10 programs in swap would you like to be moved out of swap when you close firefox?
[12:04] <zdennis> czr, it just bugs me that stuff stays in swap when i have open memory for it
[12:04] <dooglus> zdennis: and how is the kernel supposed to know that?
[12:04] <fluvvell> kameron: I hardly ever use ftp, but have to now.  I installed proftp, but having trouble making it go.  /etc/init.d/proftp reports that it must be started from inetd or xinetd.  Have made the appropriate file in xinet.d but its not going yet, what now?
[12:04] <Agiofws> does  ubuntu while installation fix a config file that could be used to  compile a kernel after the installation ?
[12:04] <erUSUL> zdennis, why?
[12:04] <dooglus> zdennis: it's better to have your RAM used as a file cache than to be holding programs that are inactive.
[12:04] <zdennis> dooglus, i dont care what is moved to memory, it'd just be nice, if i didn't have to close all applications and reopen them for efficient use
[12:05] <czr> zdennis, stuff is paged back into physical memory when it's used. free physical memory will be used for block caches, so it makes linux faster. if this bugs you you can change the swappiness factor in the kernel
[12:05] <zdennis> dooglus, that's my point. My program is no longer inactive
[12:05] <dooglus> zdennis: that's the application's fault.  if firefox didn't grow to such excessive size there wouldn't be a problem
[12:05] <fluvvell> kameron: also im offsite using ssh, not onboard with a gui desktop
[12:05] <bimberi> Agiofws: ls /boot/config*
[12:05] <czr> zdennis, it isn't using the pages that are in swap
[12:05] <dooglus> zdennis: when you try using the program again, it'll get swapped back in.
[12:05] <Agiofws> bimberi,  are you sure ?
[12:05] <dooglus> zdennis: you can try playing with linux's swappiness variable and see if that helps
[12:05] <czr> zdennis, as long as it doesn't use them, the pages won't swap. linux doesn't swap whole processes at a time, but pages at a time (4 or 8 KiB)
[12:05] <Rage__> Heh, no great loss, totem is shite anyhow.
[12:05] <erUSUL> zdennis, please read a little about virtual memory an OS desing. all os's do the same with vm
[12:06] <dooglus> zdennis sudo bash -c "echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness"
[12:06] <Agiofws> ? bimberi ?
[12:06] <zdennis> czr, ah
[12:06] <diesel> jcole, I am not finding a floppy install, but I have used the debian floppy install numerous times and the _base_ install of debian could easily be upgraded to ubuntu
[12:06] <bimberi> Agiofws: i'm sure there's config files there - yes
[12:06] <Agiofws> right afer installation ?
[12:07] <pluffsy> hello
[12:07] <pluffsy> I want to make a dual-boot system with ubuntu and macosx. how should I share files between the systems?
[12:07] <zdennis> erUSUL, my goal is not to try to solve the problem, i'm not a kernel or os developer nor do i care to be. I am simply saying it would be nice, since I can't do it now.
[12:07] <bimberi> Agiofws: when else would they have turned up?
[12:07] <eobanb_> pluffsy, there are several ways
[12:08] <Agiofws> lol
[12:08] <eobanb_> are you running 10.3, or 10.4?
[12:08] <pluffsy> 10.4
[12:08] <diesel> Rage__: agreed...I hate Totem
[12:08] <Ng> zdennis: the current behaviour is far better :)
[12:08] <kameron> totem is garbage
[12:08] <chrisx1> how do i fix this ,with out rebooting eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[12:08] <zdennis> erUSUL, but i am ok if it doesn't do it, i was just curious if i could do it, and i think the answer is unanimous
[12:08] <pluffsy> is the hfs-support any good in the kernel now?
[12:08] <pluffsy> and what about hfs+?
[12:08] <eobanb_> yes, it is.
[12:08] <pluffsy> or should I install that extension for reading ext3 in macosx?
[12:08] <eobanb_> unfortunately only 10.3 can mount ext3 filesystems, as far as i know....the kext doesnt work with 10.4
[12:08] <sobersabre> hi
[12:08] <kameron> chrisx1: specify a device
[12:08] <chrisx1> Determinist Hey Mate I Need A Lil Helpcdrom
[12:09] <kameron> chrisx1: example: eject /dev/cdrom
[12:09] <DjLinX> i installed proftpd and when i type it into a brower i get "Access to the port number has been disabled for security reasons." does anyone know how to fix
[12:09] <kameron> chrisx1: example: eject /dev/cdrom -t to close it
[12:09] <eobanb_> in any case, hfs support in the kernel is just fine, you should have no problems.
[12:09] <fluvvell> kameron: on the private chat...
[12:09] <uber_spaced> what is a good caching nameserver package for ubuntu?
[12:09] <sobersabre> I've upgraded to kde3.5... and strangely screensaver uses only upper 1/2 of the display.
[12:09] <chrisx1> chris@ubuntu:~$ eject /dev/cdrom
[12:09] <chrisx1> eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[12:09] <bimberi> Agiofws: This page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto describes that file as "the current kernel's config".
[12:09] <sobersabre> what can cause this problem, ?
[12:09] <Determinist> chrisx1, shoot
[12:09] <zdennis> erUSUL, czr, Nz, dooglus, kameron .. i appreciate all of your input and comments though, thx for helping me understand
[12:09] <Ivan> how du i install a Wireless netcard in ubuntu?
[12:09] <pluffsy> eobanb: great so just a standard ubuntu 5.10 installation should be able to read and write stable to my hfs partition?
[12:09] <uber_spaced> like something that would be able to look up names for computers in an internal network?
[12:09] <eobanb_> pluffsy, yes
[12:09] <pluffsy> eobanb, any idea how well hfs+ works?
[12:09] <bimberi> Agiofws: s/that file/such config files/
[12:09] <frogzoo> just eject - its set to /dev/cdrom by default
[12:09] <kameron> zdennis: yeah, no problem. i'm a little wound up here trying to help a bunch of people, bah.
[12:10] <eobanb_> quite well....i've just plugged in a firewire drive formatted as hfs+ and it just worked
[12:10] <eobanb_> same with ipods
[12:10] <erUSUL> zdennis, np
[12:10] <zdennis> kameron, who's got issues, I am good with alot of things...just not kernel/os low-level stuff =)
[12:10] <czr> zdennis, have fun :-) and remember that VIRT != memory usage
[12:10] <eobanb_> and my powerbook's hfs partition
[12:10] <pluffsy> eoband: ahh just great. thanks :)
[12:10] <pluffsy> err eobanb
[12:10] <zdennis> czr, i have that imprinted in my braind now forever =)
[12:11] <czr> zdennis, good, it will get you far in life :-)
[12:11] <uber_spaced> how do i get the ssh server working?
[12:11] <Ivan> how du i install a Wireless netcard in ubuntu?
[12:11] <bimberi> uber_spaced: sudo aptitude install ssh
[12:11] <eobanb_> ivan, what is the problem you are having?
[12:11] <czr> It's actually pretty hard to calculate the memory usage of some process. not even sure that the question makes sense in UNIX
[12:11] <kameron> zdennis: :P
[12:11] <Ivan> eobanb i have a wireless netcard i wount start i am using initng to boot ubunut
[12:12] <chrisx1> Determinist: pm
[12:12] <kameron> fluvvell: you around? i'm not getting any messages.
[12:12] <fluvvell> kameron: im here
[12:12] <czr> zdennis, the closest metric you should use is RSS(/RES) which tells how much of virtual memory is present in physical memory at the moment
[12:12] <uber_spaced> bimberi, i get: ssh: Depends: openssh-server but it is not installable
[12:13] <bimberi> uber_spaced: do you have non-ubuntu repositories enabled?
[12:13] <Ivan> eobanb do i have to enable wireless connection when i boot with initng?
[12:13] <czr> zdennis, so RSS should increase when a process gets some of its pages back from swap
[12:13] <fluvvell> ping
[12:13] <czr> zdennis, and RSS will decrease normally when pages are swapped to disk
[12:13] <eobanb_> Ivan i'm not sure..
[12:14] <sobersabre> hmm/// very very strange things happen to  the screensavers in KDe... no IDEA what is with them!!!
[12:14] <ichigo> hey i have one question and where can i update the ubuntu 5.10 ?
[12:14] <Ivan> eobanb none of the laps on the card is on
[12:14] <fluvvell> kameron:  lag beguiles the man, computers befumble him
[12:14] <kameron> fluvvell haha, what?
[12:15] <uber_spaced> bimberi, I have univers enabled.
[12:15] <DjLinX> i installed proftpd and when i type it into a brower i get "Access to the port number has been disabled for security reasons." does anyone know how to fix
[12:15] <mwe> I though VSZ was just adding data and the stack to the memory needed for the code
[12:15] <ichigo> i download the update on torrent and i dont see the burner program on this linux
[12:15] <ichigo> o.0
[12:15] <fluvvell> kameron: just trying to get through...
[12:15] <kameron> fluvvell: bah, this system is messed. i hate windows.
[12:16] <bimberi> uber_spaced: that's fine - put your /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin (eg. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org )
[12:16] <fluvvell> kameron: Im actually using ubuntu strangely enough!
[12:17] <kameron> fluvvell: ORLY??
[12:17] <uber_spaced> bimberi, will do.
[12:17] <lordlucless> Im getting a whole whack of keyboard errors in the kernel logs - Im using a KVM switch. Could that have anything to do with it?
[12:17] <ichigo> ok
[12:18] <hmpedersen> Ne1 know someplace to find nice free games that works with ubuntu?
[12:18] <uber_spaced> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d5721
[12:18] <fluvvell> kameron: how about that proftpd then?
[12:18] <kameron> lordlucless: i've never had a problem with a KVM acting up in any way. is it a universal type that just port forwards, or does it use fancy drivers, etc? mostly they do not.
[12:18] <sobersabre> guys... what should I be looking for with my problems with screeensavers with KDE 3.5
[12:18] <sobersabre>  >?
[12:18] <mwe> hmpedersen: happypenguin.org
[12:18] <ichigo> wine is that program allow u play game for free ?? right
[12:18] <kameron> fluvvell: what was the question again?
[12:19] <eobanb_> sobersabre, what problems
[12:19] <lordlucless> kameron, nah, just bog standard. Its all *working* fine, Im just getting my kernel log flooded with keyboard messages
[12:19] <kameron> ichigo: not really. it's a program that allows you to run windows programs on linux. you might be thinking of cedega which is an extension of that.
[12:19] <sobersabre> some of the savers don't work at all, and some take upper half of the monitor ... very very ODD.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ichigo, wine allows you to run windows apps in linux (some)
[12:19] <fluvvell> kameron: he he, I installed proftpd, put an xinetd file in and can't figure out how to start it!  Maybe I'm stupid after all
[12:19] <kameron> lordlucless: that's weird.
[12:19] <ichigo> ah but i thought wine detect my window game on cd then it will work? o.0
[12:19] <kameron> fluvvell you can't start the xinetd file?
[12:19] <sobersabre> eobanb any ideas ?!
[12:20] <bimberi> uber_spaced: enable (ie. uncomment) the security repositories (last 4 nonblank lines), update and retry
[12:20] <hmpedersen> mwe, thanx
[12:20] <eobanb_> sobersabre, are you using the right drivers for your GPU?
[12:20] <kameron> ichigo: it's FAR more complex than that. cedega does a better job, but it's not free.
[12:20] <ichigo> ooh
[12:20] <ichigo> alright
[12:20] <uber_spaced> bimberi, thanks!
[12:20] <eobanb_> if you're using the wrong ones then OpenGL ones wont work right
[12:20] <lordlucless> kameron, mind if I pm you a few lines from the log?
[12:20] <sobersabre> eobanb I have not touched X. only upgraded to the KDE to 3.5 from kubuntu site.
[12:20] <bimberi> uber_spaced: not yet, make sure it works first :)
[12:20] <ichigo> but i need kno else too... umm where can i update 5.10 but i got it on 2.10
[12:21] <fluvvell> kameron: no, I've kind of forgotten, its been years since I played with xinetd
[12:21] <ichigo> also i am download the 5.10 and it dvd
[12:21] <sobersabre> I do remember installing libattr and libacl for amarok to compile...  could it cause these ?1
[12:21] <kameron> lordlucas: i'd say yes, but i have two people having troubles PMing me, i'm not recieving messages.
[12:21] <uber_spaced> bimberi, that fixed it.
[12:21] <uber_spaced> now, if i could find a caching-nameserver thing that would be great
[12:21] <kameron> lordlucas: just drop them in ubuntu-offtopic, they probably won't mind.
[12:22] <eobanb_> sobersabre, why did you compile amarok?
[12:22] <uber_spaced> I used to be a red-hat person, switched to ubunto.  got my firewall up but need name services.
[12:22] <lordlucless> ok. Are the people PMing you registered users? This network blocks pms from non-registered users
[12:22] <fluvvell> uber_space, me too
[12:22] <kj> hello all..
[12:22] <jbroome> uber_spaced: dnsmasq
[12:22] <uber_spaced> fluvvell, have you found an equivilent to caching-nameserver.something.rpm?
[12:22] <bimberi> uber_spaced: great! (sry don't know much about caching nameserers)
[12:22] <uber_spaced> jbroome, thanks.
[12:22] <fluvvell> uber_spaced I don't think they have one, I put a full version of bind in,
[12:23] <bimberi> ^v
[12:23] <uber_spaced> fluvvell, heh.
[12:23] <kameron> lordlucas, oh maybe that's it, i really don't know. i don't think i'm registered right now either. i haven't put in pass yet.
[12:23] <fluvvell> uberspaced, prolly an overkill but we were doing full dns for a client anyway
[12:23] <kj> I just updated to breezy this last week. kubuntu is great! but my icons got jacked in ubuntu (gnome).... anyone else seen this after a dist-upgrade from the breezy repos?
[12:23] <sobersabre> eobanb for pg support.
[12:23] <uber_spaced> yeah, caching nameserver was kindof sweet; I dont think it was a full-blown bind install; just enough to resolve names.
[12:24] <kameron> fluvvell: i don't even remember what xinetd files are? man, i'm so rusty.
[12:24] <sobersabre> eobanb_  are you eobanb or eobanb_
[12:24] <sobersabre> ?
[12:24] <uber_spaced> jbroome, that looks to be pretty sweet; it leads me to believe that DHCP server is running internally... is this true?
[12:24] <jbroome> uber_spaced: it can be if you'd like to use it for dhcp
[12:25] <fluvvell> kameron: its ok, philH just got me going in standalone
[12:25] <sobersabre> uber_spaced what are you talking about ? a wifi-adsl router ?
[12:25] <uber_spaced> jbroome, is there a doc location for that package?
[12:25] <bimberi> kj: iirc reselecting a theme in System -> Prefs -> Theme fixes that
[12:25] <uber_spaced> sobersabre, no, computer w/ 2 network cards doing masq and name services.
[12:25] <PhilH> ah, you got it :)
[12:25] <uber_spaced> i dont mind dhcp running on it; makes things kindof easy i guess...
[12:25] <sobersabre> uber_spaced don't you know what runs where ?!?!?!
[12:26] <jbroome> uber_spaced: other than a man page and google search, i don't think so. :)
[12:26] <kj> thanks bimberi...
[12:26] <kameron> fluvvell: okay, good. sorry i can't help you too much here.
[12:26] <uber_spaced> jbroome, thanks;
[12:26] <bimberi> kj: np :)
[12:26] <PhilH> Guys, what do i need to do to get DVD burning working under Breezy?
[12:26] <Torez_> Yo. I've been scouring around for hours and can't find anything, so I'll ask here. Is there a way I can force Ubuntu to use a certain default gateway? Networking GUI continually reverts back.
[12:26] <uber_spaced> sobersabre, other distributions have some sort of package documentation repository along with the packages... i was wondering if there was somethign like that.
[12:26] <u|qos> Rage__: okay ... i read some manuals, the manpage and installed wondershaper. and it works. but i want to manage it for seperate processes ... ftp, samba, etc ...
[12:26] <humboldt> how can I set an environment var for apache? a persistant one? /etc/environment does not seem to have any effect. Is there something similar or is the only way to edit the ini.d script?
[12:26] <uber_spaced> sobersabre, but yes, i do know where stuff runs from where and whatnot.
[12:27] <mwe> humboldt: what exactly do you need?
[12:27] <kj> bimberi: every thing else has been great. This distro has left fedora in last years dust.
[12:27] <humboldt> As I said. I want to set an env for apache. PDFLIBLICENSEFILE=/etc/libpdf-license-key
[12:27] <TokenBad> stupid damn printer and router..can't get either to work
[12:27] <Ivan> how do i c the initng boot log
[12:27] <Ivan> ?
[12:28] <jbroome> what?
[12:28] <PhilH> TokenBad, what's wrong with them?
[12:28] <fluvvell> kameron: thanks anyway, you cant help everyone -
[12:28] <TokenBad> well the printer will start to print the test page then stop..but not have anything on the paper
[12:28] <jbroome> Ivan: dmesg give you what you want?
[12:28] <sobersabre> uber_spaced are you talking about /usr/share/doc ?
[12:28] <bimberi> kj: glad you like it
[12:28] <humboldt> I know I can edit the init.d script and this works fine. but I will have to take care of this on each and every update.
[12:28] <TokenBad> even though new cartrages
[12:28] <bimberi> :)
[12:28] <Ivan> dmesg initNG
[12:28] <TokenBad> and the router..no idea..no idea how to set the router up under linux
[12:28] <fluvvell> PhilH, thanks heaps, I was one step off a going system!
[12:28] <Ivan> !dmesg initNG
[12:28] <ubotflu> Ivan: What?
[12:28] <humboldt> mwe: so is there an other method?
[12:29] <uber_spaced> sobersabre, whatever this distro uses.
[12:29] <PhilH> fluvvell, heh, no problem
[12:29] <u|qos> okay ... i read some manuals, the manpage and installed wondershaper. and it works. but i want to manage it for seperate processes ... ftp, samba, etc ... is this possible?
[12:29] <sobersabre> hm.. nevermind.\
[12:29] <manchine> though i have apache2, libapache2-mod-php4 and php4,firefox still does not recon php files and attempts to dl them. any ideas?
[12:29] <mwe> humboldt: I'm not sure. I'd put it in the startup script
[12:29] <Ivan> how do i msg ubutflu
[12:29] <jbroome> Ivan: /msg ubotflu question
[12:29] <humboldt> mwe: So be it.
[12:29] <eobanb_> sobersabre, i'm both
[12:30] <PhilH> use /query username
[12:30] <mwe> humboldt: wait
[12:30] <jbroome> Ivan: and run dmesg on your machine locallay, not the bot
[12:30] <humboldt> mwe: what for?
[12:30] <humboldt> mwe: got some new idea?
[12:30] <mwe> humboldt: I just noticed a /etc/apache2/envvars file. I guess you can put it there
[12:30] <olipaul> does anyone know what the current state of dapper is? is it usable, basically?
[12:30] <humboldt> apache1
[12:31] <uber_spaced> anyhow, jbroome , sobersabre , thanks for your help.
[12:31] <mwe> humboldt: doesn't that have something similar?
[12:31] <Ivan> sp what do i typ /msg ubitfflu + question
[12:31] <jbroome> ubotflu: np
[12:31] <ubotflu> jbroome: What?
[12:31] <Ivan> where do i use dmsg
[12:31] <jbroome> crap.
[12:31] <jbroome> Ivan: in a terminal on your machine
[12:32] <humboldt> mwe: does not look like it
[12:32] <myke> what is a good download manger
[12:32] <myke> ?
[12:32] <_sebastian> HI I need some help.  I have installed Apache and PHP on Linux.  got those working.  However as for MySQL well.  I am trying to connect log in with MySQL administrater, but it won't work.   I don't have an actsaul account to log in it seems.  and it says MyySQL itelfs owns the permissions for i  t.   When I try to log in I get this erorr message:
[12:33] <_sebastian> Ubuntu
[12:33] <_sebastian> erorr message I am geting is hang on
[12:33] <Dido-win-clone> If I copy the whole linux drive to a dvd could it work like back up of the system (if I format the drive for example and the if I copy the all the files back)?
[12:33] <Killer_Smurf> sebatian....  your talking a lamp setup?
[12:33] <LjL> myke: i use axel, which is a command line tool that can download from multiple mirrors concurrently. it's got a simple KDE frontend too. also, they say prozilla is good, but it's not packaged.'
[12:33] <olipaul> in ubuntu the fn key can control volume etc, does anyone know what app/deamon is controlling that?
[12:33] <_jason> myke, d4x
[12:34] <_jason> myke, if you want simple and don't like cli, use a frontend for wget: gwget
[12:34] <Torez_> Ooh, what's SIOCADDRT and where can I edit it..?
[12:34] <_sebastian> Lamp uhmmmmmm I read about Lamp.  Yeah I guess it's a Lamp setup then. well kind of.  just downloaded and installed and sorted out with help.  Apache and PHP onto my Ubuntu.  with a ton of ther programs
[12:34] <mwe> humboldt: you could look in apachectl to see if it looks for something like that
[12:36] <pnoob> HELP need to install GTK+ anyone know how?
[12:36] <HapyHippy> lo all
[12:36] <bimberi> _sebastian: perhaps something here might help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:37] <HapyHippy> n00b help req: when mounting a FAT32 partition I can't get write access, even with sudo
[12:37] <pnoob> bimberi, can you help me figure out how to inst. some GTK?
[12:37] <HapyHippy> I even tried turning on sharing in XP, but no difference
[12:37] <rosen> ok a quickie before bedtime ... how do I erase a file (as root) in terminal ?
[12:37] <_sebastian> ok MySQL error message I am getting when I try to log in:   Could not connect to host '<IP_ADDRESS>'.  MySQL Er Nr.  1130  #HY00Host 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect  to
[12:37] <MickMcMack> sudo rm file
[12:37] <MickMcMack> ?
[12:37] <_sebastian> this MySQL server
[12:37] <dooglus> rosen: "rm <file>"
[12:37] <LjL> pnoob: gtk is installed by default in Ubuntu, as it's the engine that runs your whole graphical interface
[12:37] <pnoob> rosen, you just rm <filename> or sudo rm <filename>
[12:38] <_sebastian> Check the ping blah blah to see if it is a network problem
[12:38] <rosen> great :) thanks both of you
[12:38] <winston_> how to I get my smtpd to start on boot so I can send mail  (does it need config?)
[12:38] <pnoob> LjL, this is great, how come I don't get anything when I 'which gtk' ?
[12:38] <PhilH> so, DVD burning under breezy, how do i do this?
[12:39] <fluvvell> HappyHippy, how are you mounting the drive?
[12:39] <rosen> mm ... then what if it's a directory ?
[12:39] <LjL> pnoob: i guess it's because "which" locates commands, and gtk is not a command... it's a set of libraries
[12:39] <dooglus> pnoob: because 'which' locates binaries, and gtk is a library
[12:39] <bimberi> pnoob: try "locate gtk"
[12:39] <HapyHippy> mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/thisisatest
[12:39] <rosen> odly enough I dont get the chance to type my root password when I use the gui
[12:39] <dooglus> rosen: "rm -r" will remove recursively
[12:39] <Tybalt> can someone help me
[12:39] <pnoob> LjL, thanks for the help, so obvious now.
[12:39] <Krhis> Ask away Tybalt
[12:39] <fluvvell> HappyHippy, and the folder under /mnt exists right?
[12:40] <rosen> so .. sudo rm -r <name>
[12:40] <eobanb_> Tybalt, what's the problem
[12:40] <dooglus> rosen: yeah
[12:40] <HapyHippy> :-) yeah
[12:40] <HapyHippy> can access np
[12:40] <MickMcMack> rosen, sudo rm -rf name (doesn't prompt)
[12:40] <Tybalt> do you happen to try to install  maya 7.0 on ubuntu
[12:40] <rosen> aaaah
[12:40] <LjL> pnoob: well, anyway, what do you need to do?
[12:40] <dooglus> rosen: -f will "force" the removal - it won't ask 'are you sure you want to remove' or anything
[12:40] <fluvvell> HappyHippy, does mount give an output?
[12:40] <rosen> sweet relief
[12:40] <HapyHippy> in terminal? no
[12:40] <bimberi> rosen: take extreme care with <name>
[12:40] <HapyHippy> IIRC
[12:40] <HapyHippy> will redo...
[12:40] <dooglus> HapyHippy: this is a problem that I've seen here 4 times in the last day
[12:40] <rosen> oh it's gone now ... dead and gone ... such a relief :D
[12:40] <fluvvell> HapyHippy, you could use -o rw
[12:41] <Tybalt> i have rpm's of the maya
[12:41] <dooglus> HapyHippy: I don't know if anyone found a solution yet
[12:41] <Tybalt> how do i install it
[12:41] <fluvvell> dooglus, problems mounting fat32 drives?
[12:41] <pnoob> LjL, I'm installing some dev/alpha ware and this stuff is required.  Figured getting in as deep over my head is a good way to learn fast.
[12:41] <PhilH> why are you hunting for GTK?
[12:41] <u|qos> can i limit the vsftpd upload speed for each user individually?
[12:42] <dooglus> fluvvell: the problem is that the fat drives get mounted "rw", but cannot be written.  attempting to write says "read-only filesystem".  any idea?
[12:42] <pnoob> LjL, do you build sources under this Ubuntu stuff?
[12:42] <fluvvell> HapyHippy, silly question number 3:  you can read folders in the drive ok?
[12:42] <xandor> What is the name of the mac OS X for x86 architecture? Does anyone here know?
[12:42] <pnoob> PhilH, I'm req. to have a certain version of it, that's all.
[12:42] <HapyHippy> fluvvell - yup
[12:42] <bogafff> am having a problem with the screen,. its all wobbly and i cant change resolutions
[12:42] <Tybalt> i have amdx2 64
[12:43] <LjL> pnoob: to build sources that use GTK, you don't just need GTK, but also the dev packages of GTK
[12:43] <dooglus> HapyHippy: what does "mount | grep -i fat" show?
[12:43] <Tybalt> and i want to install maya 7.0
[12:43] <winston_> Can anyone help me to get started sending mail? I figure I need to start the smtpd somehow...?!?
[12:43] <frogzoo> I have just one stoopid windows prog that calls a vxd - so wine wont handle it - the alternative is an emulator - which is the best? vmware/win4lin commercial - qemu, bochs GPL?
[12:43] <LjL> qemu
[12:43] <Tybalt> can someone help install
[12:43] <LjL> !tell pnoob about auto-apt
[12:43] <Krhis> bogafff, what video card are you using?
[12:43] <HapyHippy> /dev/hda3 on /mnt/thisisatest type vfat (rw)
[12:43] <Krhis> Might need drivers.
[12:43] <bogafff> sis mobo integrated
[12:43] <dooglus> frogzoo: win4lin is very good if all you need is windows 98.  the win4lin pro thing sucks
[12:43] <pnoob> LjL, the sources I'm building are not gtk they just run with/on it ... do I still need the unstable packages of gtk?
[12:43] <LjL> pnoob: the program ubotflu is pointing you to can help finding the dev packages that are required to compile a given program
[12:44] <bogafff> km400
[12:44] <dooglus> pnoob: you need the "-dev" versions of the gtk libs
[12:44] <LjL> pnoob: you do need the GTK dev packages. i don't think you need any unstable ones, though!
[12:44] <Krhis> Have you set your montiors H/V in x.org?
[12:44] <Seveas> !seen cafuego
[12:44] <ubotflu> cafuego<EMAIL_ADDRESS>was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 1h 15m 49s ago, saying: '!ndiswrapper'.
[12:44] <Seveas> !help
[12:44] <bogafff> how to?
[12:44] <Tybalt> how do i install rpm base packages on ubuntu ?
[12:44] <Hobbsee> !alien
[12:44] <ubotflu> alien is, like, a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[12:45] <jbroome> What can we help you with Seveas? :)
[12:45] <LjL> frogzoo: wine is fastest. qemu comes second, i guess. qemu can become quite fast with the optional "accelerator", but that's closed source (though free)
[12:45] <frogzoo> Tybalt: typically u dont ...
[12:45] <fluvvell> HapyHippy, what output does fdisk -lu give?
[12:45] <eobanb_> Tybalt, what is the software in question
[12:45] <Tybalt> Maya 7.0
[12:45] <HapyHippy> none
[12:45] <dooglus> fluvvell: it's mounted already..
[12:45] <Tybalt> Alias Maya 7.0 eobanb
[12:45] <Phinite> I need to do a search replace in vi and insert a newline that will be visible in Windows... how do I do that?
[12:46] <Tybalt> on the site of maya it only supports rh & fedora
[12:46] <pnoob> dooglus, LjL, is there a centralized way of finding the right gtk-dev stuff?
[12:46] <blanky> blender 3d
[12:46] <Krhis> bogafff, looks like you'll need to add your HorizSync and VertSync settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[12:46] <frogzoo> thx dooglus, LjL
[12:46] <Tybalt> so is there a way i can install it ?
[12:46] <fluvvell> dooglus, good point
[12:46] <LjL> pnoob: "apt-cache search" i suppose you mean?
[12:46] <Krhis> Do you know what they are?
[12:46] <bimberi> Tybalt: use alien
[12:46] <Phinite> well, I don't need to do it in vi, I could do it with bash I suppose
[12:46] <Tybalt> done that
[12:46] <Phinite> that might be easier
[12:46] <fluvvell> HapyHippy, what type is your /dev/hda1
[12:47] <dooglus> pnoob: I would "sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-terminal" or some such.  that will install a whole bunch of development libraries.
[12:47] <rickest> Phinite: :%s/\n/\r\n/
[12:47] <eobanb_> Tybalt, did you try talking to Alias about it?
[12:47] <HapyHippy> NTFS, and no way I can reformat - works laptop
[12:47] <Phinite> trying that now rick, thanks
[12:47] <Quizzer> where can i find a good ssh client for ubuntu
[12:47] <eobanb_> Quizzer, apt-get install ssh
[12:47] <Tybalt> eobanb,  not yet
[12:47] <dooglus> HapyHippy: what do you see if you "ls -ld /mnt/thisisatest" ?
[12:47] <LjL> dooglus: i would rather use auto-apt if it were for me
[12:47] <dooglus> LjL: I never heard of it
[12:47] <Tybalt> how do i use root on ubuntu ?
[12:48] <bogafff> oi sudo aint working either
[12:48] <eobanb_> !sudo
[12:48] <ubotflu> somebody said sudo was the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:48] <HapyHippy> drwxr-xr-x  7 root root 8192 1970-01-01 01:00 /mnt/thisisatest
[12:48] <Krhis> Tybalt, you can "sudo su"
[12:48] <LjL> dooglus: apt-cache show auto-apt. it's quite handy, see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoApt
[12:48] <dooglus> HapyHippy: can you write to the FAT drive if you become root first?
[12:48] <bimberi> Quizzer: openssh-client is installed by default
[12:48] <LjL> Krhis, Tybalt: "sudo -i" is usually better than "sudo su"
[12:48] <dooglus> HapyHippy: "sudo -s" to become root
[12:48] <bogafff> i have just installed ubuntu,. maybe i screwed up somewhere?
[12:49] <Tybalt> thnx Krhis
[12:49] <Krhis> Ah yes. Forgot.
[12:49] <Krhis> Enjoy.
[12:49] <aqfn> hi
[12:49] <pnoob> dooglus,  what will this sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-terminal do?
[12:49] <bogafff> i ll reinstall
[12:49] <frogzoo> Tybalt: you can do everything mostly with sudo - no need to run root in the gui
[12:49] <chrisx1> any1 have any ideas why mplayer doesnt play sound?
[12:49] <HapyHippy> aha!
[12:49] <aqfn> is there any way to repair a parition table >?
[12:49] <Tybalt> yeah sori
[12:49] <dooglus> pnoob: it will install all the development packages you need to build gnome-terminal
[12:49] <MickMcMack> aqfn, there should be.
[12:49] <Tybalt> been using the su
[12:49] <frogzoo> !tell chrisx1 about restricted
[12:49] <Ivan> chrisx1 use -ao oss
[12:49] <Tybalt> and it doesnt work
[12:49] <Tybalt> eheheh
[12:49] <aqfn> how to
[12:49] <Tybalt> sorry
[12:49] <dooglus> HapyHippy: if that worked, you should remount the partition, as follows:
[12:49] <pnoob> dooglus, so I could swap other things in for gnome-terminal??
[12:50] <LjL> pnoob: it will install all the -dev packages that are required to compile gnome-terminal. since gnome-terminal is a Gnome (and thus a GTK) application, it will certainly install the GTK dev packages. only problem, it will probably also install a ton of other stuff
[12:50] <frogzoo> Tybalt: sudo - not su
[12:50] <chrisx1> Ivan: where and how?
[12:50] <diesel> pnoob: yes
[12:50] <dooglus> HapyHippy: sudo mount -o remount,umask=0 /mnt/thisisatest
[12:50] <dooglus> pnoob: sure.
[12:50] <pnoob> LjL,  this other stuff wouldn't cause probs would it ... just be baggage?
[12:50] <LjL> pnoob: yes
[12:50] <MickMcMack> ~testdisk is A program that can help recover lost or damaged partition tables: http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html
[12:51] <MickMcMack> Bah, how do you add a factoid? :(
[12:51] <LjL> pnoob: if you take note of what was installed, you can just remove it later when you've finished compiling.
[12:51] <dooglus> ubotu, testdisk is a program blah blah blah
[12:51] <HapyHippy> done, no feedback and rights are still 755
[12:51] <MickMcMack> dooglus, is ubotflu ubotu ?
[12:51] <dooglus> MickMcMack: I don't know
[12:51] <dooglus> !paste
[12:51] <ubotflu> I heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:52] <pnoob> LjL, being a p-noob I doubt I'd know what to remove, huh?
[12:52] <MickMcMack> dooglus, thanks. :)
[12:52] <dooglus> ubotflu, testdisk is a program blah blah blah
[12:52] <ubotflu> dooglus: okay
[12:52] <frogzoo> ubotflu - lol
[12:52] <ubotflu> frogzoo: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[12:52] <dooglus> ubotflu, no testdisk is a program blah blah blah
[12:52] <ubotflu> i already had it that way, dooglus
[12:52] <MickMcMack> ubotflu, forget testdisk
[12:52] <ubotflu> MickMcMack: i forgot testdisk
[12:52] <MickMcMack> ubotflu testdisk is a program that can help recover lost or damaged partition tables: http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html
[12:52] <ubotflu> MickMcMack: okay
[12:52] <LjL> pnoob: well, "apt-get build-dep gnome-terminal" will *tell* you what is being installed, so that will be what you will (or might) want to remove ;-)
[12:52] <fluvvell> HapyHippy, looks like the mount is happenning as root with no -o user option
[12:52] <eobanb_> !testdisk
[12:52] <ubotflu> extra, extra, read all about it, testdisk is a program that can help recover lost or damaged partition tables: http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html
[12:52] <eobanb_> good.
[12:52] <MickMcMack> !tell aqfn about testdisk
[12:53] <LjL> pnoob: of course, you can leave it all installed if you prefer. but it might take quite a bit of space, like some hunded megabytes
[12:53] <aqfn> oo
[12:53] <HapyHippy> fluvvell - I must have learned a lot this week, that made sense :p
[12:54] <HapyHippy> so other than sudo -s, is there any other work around you know of?
[12:54] <PhilH> can anyone help me with DVD burning?
[12:54] <MickMcMack> aqfn, did that help?
[12:54] <HapyHippy> and how do I go back to normal user?
[12:54] <skierkegaard> how do i configure a wireless card
[12:54] <dooglus> HapyHippy: try:   sudo mount -o remount,umask=0,uid=1000 /mnt/thisisatest
[12:54] <LjL> HapyHippy: type exit
[12:54] <frogzoo> philh just ask your question - leap in
[12:54] <dooglus> HapyHippy: you just "exit2 to go back
[12:54] <Krhis> PhilH, What do you need help with?
[12:54] <dooglus> "exit"
[12:54] <dooglus> HapyHippy: control-d would do it too
[12:54] <aqfn> trying
[12:54] <Tybalt> thnx
[12:55] <HapyHippy> dooglus - same result, no feedback, 755
[12:55] <dooglus> HapyHippy: what do you see from "mount | grep -i fat" now?
[12:55] <lewix> how can I play streaming video ?
[12:55] <MickMcMack> aqfn, if you have totally borked it, I would recommend using something like the INSERT livecd, that is specially made for system recovery.
[12:55] <pnoob> LjL,  I'm miffed, I ran apt-get build-dep gnome-terminal and got 'unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/) is anotherprocess using it?'
[12:55] <mocca> hey
[12:55] <MickMcMack> pnoob, sudo ?
[12:55] <frogzoo> lewix: install gxine & restricted codecs
[12:55] <PhilH> well, i've just burned a DVD+R using K3B, when i try to import the session in K3B it informs me that there are no sessions to import, and gnomebaker gives me an error message
[12:55] <_jason> lewix, have you tried mplayer?
[12:55] <pnoob> LjL, shute, I have synaptic on, will try again
[12:55] <aqfn> ok thanks
[12:55] <dooglus> pnoob: you need to exit synaptic, apt-get, and anything else like that first
[12:55] <HapyHippy> /dev/hda3 on /mnt/thisisatest type vfat (rw,umask=0,umask=0,uid=1000)
[12:56] <zdennis> anyone in the mood to help me setup port forwarding with iptables ?
[12:56] <skierkegaard> my wireless card is listed as not configured
[12:56] <skierkegaard> what do i do?
[12:56] <dooglus> pnoob: you also need to use 'sudo'
[12:56] <aqfn> my partitions still work, just that the table is shot
[12:56] <lewix> frogzoo, gxine ? where can I find it + the restricted codecs
[12:56] <pnoob> dooglus,  I DID use sudo, i just had synaptic running by mistake
[12:56] <frogzoo> !tell lewix about restricted
[12:56] <lewix> _jason, nope, totem is the one set by default
[12:56] <mocca> someone can answer me a wlan question?
[12:56] <dooglus> HapyHippy: what if you "sudo umount /mnt/thisisatest"
[12:56] <frogzoo> lewix: sudo apg-get install gxine
[12:56] <_jason> lewix, mplayer works well for me, so you may want to test it out and see
[12:57] <dooglus> HapyHippy: and then mount it again: "sudo mount -o rw,umask=0,uid=1000 /dev/hda3 /mnt/thisisatest"
[12:57] <chrisx1> any1 have any ideas why mplayer doesnt play sound?
[12:57] <frogzoo> chrisx1: have you chosen media source? (& turned up the volume/plugged it in?)
[12:57] <PHR023N> i'm trying to optimize my hdparm for my Seagate 40 GB Model=ST340014A
[12:58] <HapyHippy> w00t
[12:58] <_jason> chrisx1, did you set it to use esd if you are indeed using esd?
[12:58] <HapyHippy> 777 :-D
[12:58] <PhilH> the last message from gnomebaker's output is cdrecord: Cannot read session offset
[12:58] <pnoob> LjL, turns out to be 55 MB ... don't know if I should proceed yet.  Are you saying that these packages (for gnome-terminal) will probably overlap well with the other stuff I need to be running for the gtk-dev stuf to work?
[12:58] <PHR023N> can anyone help?
[12:58] <chrisx1> frogzoo: yes was working on other dvds
[12:58] <dooglus> HapyHippy: I'm wondering whether it was working already, and you just needed to open a new terminal.  I'm not sure.
[12:58] <pnoob> ALL -- what's the size of ubuntu base install?
[12:59] <LjL> pnoob: most probably they will. care if i query you and explain how this stuff works in some more detail?
[12:59] <frogzoo> pnoob: will fit in 10gb
[12:59] <Dido-win-clone> pnoob 1.5gb is the size but on my 2gb hdd it didn't install
[12:59] !Md:*! our australian server is disappeared, along with the sponsoring network. maybe we could use another australian server. for more information about sponsoring a freenode IRC server please look at http://freenode.net/
[12:59] <HapyHippy> it def. wasn't when I logged on here. Tried opening and closing terminal, using file browser as well
[12:59] <pnoob> frogzoo,  that's insanely huge!
[12:59] <HapyHippy> although I never tried it with option tags before
[12:59] <frogzoo> Dido-win-clone: the installl likes a lot of space for /var when installing
[12:59] <chrisx1> _jason: i choose esd ty it works
[01:00] <dooglus> pnoob: it fits on 1 CD, so I doubt it's anything like 10Gb...
[01:00] <_jason> chrisx1, i suppose you are using gmplayer with the gui?
[01:00] <frogzoo> pnoob: I just wanted to set an upper figure
[01:00] <pnoob> LjL, don't understand what you're asking in your 'query'
[01:00] <HapyHippy> next question (last one for now)...
[01:00] <chrisx1> _jason: i get an error
[01:00] <chrisx1> and it disables sound
[01:00] <zim> hi all
[01:00] <_jason> chrisx1, who what when where?
[01:00] <Dido-win-clone> frogzoo is it possible to copy my current installation threr?
[01:00] <zim> jukst a quick q
[01:00] <bimberi> pnoob: more like 1.5gb but having seen dido-win-clone's post it must have a high-water-mark over 2gb during the install
[01:00] <chrisx1> using mplayer _jason
[01:00] <HapyHippy> any ideas why, when I connect my wifi to my own router the whole system freezes after a couple of minutes
[01:00] <roy__> alguien espaol
[01:00] <frogzoo> pnoob: actually, I've done a full install inside 4gb no probs
[01:00] <dooglus> I've been using ubuntu for a year now and it still fits in 5.3Gb
[01:00] <_jason> chrisx1, mplayer, not gmplayer right?
[01:00] <HapyHippy> but if I connect at work, or to my neighbour's wifi all is fine?
[01:00] <HapyHippy> Intel 2200BG
[01:00] <chrisx1> yes mplayer
[01:01] <_jason> ubotflu, tell chrisx1 about mplayer
[01:01] <_jason> chrisx1, read towards the bottom, it will tell you where to setup esd for mplayer
[01:01] <rickest> I'm installing 5.10 onto an old 4.3GB hard drive (total) as we speak
[01:01] <zim> trying to automate somthing
[01:01] <chrisx1> _jason: sound workks now i get error to many video packets in the buffer
[01:02] <frogzoo> Dido-win-clone: not sure what u mean?
[01:02] <chrisx1> _jason: think i fixed it ty
[01:02] <_jason> chrisx1, umm ok, what did you do out of curiousity?
[01:02] <chrisx1> nope same
[01:02] <_sebastian> Do I need to start MySQL before I even try and log in as a user?   If so how do I start it first?   and since I just instaled it  do I even have an account?  I try to log in and I carn't.  and according to  this thing I need MySQL started first.
[01:03] <_sebastian> PLEASE REMEMBER TO SET A PASSWORD FOR THE MySQL root USER !
[01:03] <_sebastian> To do so, start the server, then issue the following commands:
[01:03] <Dido-win-clone> frogzoo i've installed on other hdd now, could i copy this installation on the 2gb disc (it's 1.7gb~ now)
[01:03] <_sebastian> /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'new-password'
[01:03] <_sebastian> /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root -h ubuntu password 'new-password'
[01:03] <_sebastian> See the manual for more instructions.
[01:03] <chrisx1> _jason: sound is working just the buffer
[01:03] <Kindred> Hi, someone recommended I install a 686 kernel to fix a hardware problem i'm having, I currently have an amd64 kernel so would doing this break software and stuff?  I am hesitant to try it because I don't really know the consequences.
[01:03] <_jason> chrisx1, mind pastbinning the exact output?
[01:03] <LjL> pnoob: you should have a new window or tab in your irc client with my nickname on it
[01:03] <HapyHippy> no ideas? Thanks to dooglus and fluvvell for prob #1 tho :D
[01:03] <chrisx1> i told u the output:o
[01:03] <zim> $hcitool scan returns:  00:00:00:00:00:00:00      phone name
[01:04] <chrisx1> _jason: sound workks now i get error to many video packets in the buffer
[01:04] <frogzoo> _sebastian: sure - you'll need to move everything - including symlinks & device files (cpio/dump - some people have done it with tar) - then you'll need to reinstall grub & you re done
[01:04] <dooglus> HapyHippy: sorry, no.  I only set ubuntu up with wifi once and it went fine.
[01:04] <chrisx1> _jason: ill try in console
[01:04] <HapyHippy> will try the forums, and pop back here next time I hit a wall (50 says it'll be 15 min tops :p)
[01:04] <zim> how do i isolate the mac address to use on the next line rfcomm bind 0 macaddress 4
[01:05] <_sebastian> lol  frogzoo what you on about.  Grub has got nothing to do with MySQL
[01:05] <warren_> any ppc people here
[01:05] <zim> has anyone folowed what i nees
[01:05] <zim> has anyone folowed what i need?
[01:05] <frogzoo> Dido-win-clone: sure - you'll need to move everything - including symlinks & device files (cpio/dump - some people have done it with tar) - then you'll need to reinstall grub & you re done
[01:05] <eobanb_> warren_, yes
[01:05] <frogzoo> _sebastian: sry dude
[01:05] <chrisx1> !pastebin
[01:05] <ubotflu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:06] <bimberi> Kindred: I'm not an expert on this but i am similarly skeptical.  As i understand it you have to be all 32bit or all 64bit (chroot environments aside)
[01:06] <warren_> eobanb: when i last got my ppc copy they only sent me a install cd
[01:06] <_sebastian> wrong person hummmm
[01:06] <warren_> eobanb: i heard they have live ppc cds now
[01:06] <warren_> is that true ?
[01:06] <zim> help :(
[01:06] <eobanb_> yes, i think it is
[01:06] <eobanb_> !livecd
[01:06] <ubotflu> livecd is probably useful for playing with or trying out (k)ubuntu without installing it or making any changes to your system. grab one from the download page at http://www.ubuntulinux.org or request via ship-it.
[01:06] <wastrel> hi! where do i point my /dev/pilot symlink so pilot-link can see my usb palm?
[01:06] <zim> lost sole needs some scripting help
[01:06] <Kindred> bimberi, hm ok thanks.
[01:07] <Krhis> Yes, zim?
[01:07] <eobanb_> warren_, http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/
[01:07] <Dido-win-clone> frogzoo just copying all files from the drive and reinstalling grub does it ?
[01:07] <_sebastian> Do I need to start MySQL before I even try and log in as a user?   If so how do I start it first?   and since I just instaled it  do I even have an account?  I try to log in and I carn't.  and according to    the set a MyySQL root password thing I need to have MySQL started first
[01:07] <zim> if i get "00:00:00:00:00    freds phone"
[01:08] <zim> how do i filter that so its just the mac address
[01:08] <wastrel> mmm zim
[01:08] <wastrel> it is a good cartoon
[01:08] <dooglus> _sebastian: "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start" or some such?
[01:08] <PhilH> so, any thoughts on DVD burning?
[01:08] <dooglus> zim: "awk '{print $1}'"
[01:08] <pnoob> ALL -- want to get Athlon 64 rocking UBUNTU any mainboard + cpu recommendations?
[01:08] <chrisx1> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5722
[01:08] <_jeff> hey guys
[01:09] <Krhis> Hi, jeff.
[01:09] <eobanb_> pnoob, depends on your price range and needs.
[01:09] <pnoob> _jason,  and gals!!!
[01:09] <myke> hello
[01:09] <Goldfish> pnoob: I recommend an AMD64 processor....heheh. Actually, I have AMD64 3200+ on my mythtv box.
[01:09] <myke> anyone here use gyach?
[01:09] <_jeff> i keep getting this error during the configure stage of my installations from source:
[01:09] <bimberi> Kindred: perhaps the "someone" thought you were currently in the 386 kernel - because 386 to 686 is fine
[01:09] <_jason> chrisx1, does this happen with other movie files?
[01:09] <pnoob> eobanb,  Willing to build it, so thinking a 150 mainboard and 200 chip should be the limit.
[01:09] <frogzoo> Dido-win-clone: no - you'll need to copy the file systems - if you just copy, you'll come to grief on the device files & symlinks
[01:09] <eobanb_> _jeff, what installations?
[01:09] <chrisx1> umm
[01:09] <Krhis> I have a AMD64 3200+ on this box right now.
[01:09] <myke> when trying to view webcams i get a error that gyach-webcam is not there
[01:09] <chrisx1> _jason: i aint really watched many on here
[01:10] <pnoob> Goldfish,  what's the mainboard?
[01:10] <n|qos> how do i completly disable wondershaper?
[01:10] <Ummu> how do I copy the contents of .bin files into a CD?
[01:10] <dooglus> zim: did that answer your question?
[01:10] <_jason> chrisx1, did you set video output to 'xv'?
[01:10] <frogzoo> Dido-win-clone: what you want is a backup tool - dump/cpio/or tar - to migrate the file system(s)
[01:10] <TokenBad> PhilH, I got it working
[01:10] <_sebastian> says it is already running hummmmmmm.  right i'll try those  other commands again
[01:10] <_jeff> i keep getting this error during the configure stage of my installations from source:
[01:10] <dr_willis> Ummu,  i belive k3b can burn cue/bin files
[01:10] <TokenBad> it was something really really stupid
[01:10] <chrisx1> _jason: what u mean?
[01:10] <PhilH> cool, how?
[01:10] <_jeff> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:10] <zim> yes great
[01:10] <eobanb_> _jeff, what are you trying to compile
[01:10] <zim> ty
[01:10] <TokenBad> the damn uplink button on the router got pushed in
[01:10] <myke> anyone
[01:10] <Ummu> dr_willis: Yes, it can, but I don't want to install all those libraries for k3b
[01:10] <myke> ?
[01:10] <PhilH> heh
[01:10] <Dido-win-clone> frogzoo uh.. i dont understand anything ;[ screw it
[01:11] <dr_willis> Ummu,  time to do some googling then I guess.
[01:11] <_jeff> eobanb: im trying to compile kmetabar from source
[01:11] <pnoob> IS there an UBUNTU hardware IRC???
[01:11] <_jason> chrisx1, try: mplayer -ao esd -vo xv nameofmoviefile
[01:11] <TokenBad> now if I can just get the printer to work
[01:11] <haypo> hi! gam_server is eating a lot of memory and cpu, how can I kill him or configure it to don't notify anything!? (I'm using Kubuntu with KDE 3.5)
[01:11] <cody> hey,I'm having problems with my ubuntu; for some reason it doesn't seem to update and itt thinks I am not the owner can anyone help me I am confused :S
[01:11] <frogzoo> _sebastian: I'm not sure - but it sounds like the mssql daemon runs as a unix user - so set the password (ie /etc/passwd type passwd)
[01:11] <Ummu> dr_willis: Ok. Would you like to know the result, or shall I just go away?
[01:11] <PhilH> well, good luck with that
[01:11] <zim> 00:00:00  foo
[01:11] <Goldfish> pnoob: I got mainboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123230 and CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=Suggested&Description=19-103
[01:11] <zim> 00:00:01  foo
[01:11] <dooglus> haypo: "pkill gam_server"
[01:11] <zim> 00:00:03  bar
[01:12] <_sebastian> yes at the moment I got a MySQL that has permissions that belongs to MySQL
[01:12] <dr_willis> Ummu,  i use k3b :P it blows all other toos away for my needs - i DO belive ive seen some cue/bin --> iso converter programs out.. but ive  not used them.
[01:12] <lewix> hey
[01:12] <dooglus> zim: what are you trying to tell us?
[01:12] <Goldfish> mysql kicks off as root, and then forks a process to run as mysql. Because root is doing this, it doessn't need any password support.
[01:12] <dr_willis> Ummu,  may want to check freshmeat.net
[01:12] <Ummu> dr_willis: cdrdao seems to work
[01:12] <TokenBad> well here is one for you PhilH it went through the proccess of printing the test page all the way to the end
[01:12] <chrisx1> _jason: ty works(Y)
[01:12] <eobanb_> _jeff, is this what you're talking about? http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/kde/metabar
[01:12] <pnoob> Goldfish,  is this a rockin system?
[01:12] <TokenBad> but nothing at all on the page
[01:12] <zim> ie it find 3 phone and i want to do the same to all 3
[01:12] <lewix> ltiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[01:12] <lewix> Reading package lists... Done
[01:12] <lewix> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:12] <lewix> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[01:12] <lewix> what's wrong ?
[01:13] <zim> bluetooth has some flaws
[01:13] <_jason> chrisx1, set xv as the default video output in gmplayer using preferences and do the same in the configuration file for mplayer
[01:13] <dr_willis> Ummu,  yea.. im thinking there may be some 'issues' dependng on the bin/cue.  conmfiguration
[01:13] <_jason> chrisx1, that's the output you should be using anyhow
[01:13] <_jeff> eobanb: yeah, only its been modified a bit
[01:13] <frogzoo> Goldfish: is it necessary to run mysql as root? or just convenient?
[01:13] <pnoob> Is there an IRC for UBUNTU HARDWARE???
[01:13] <eobanb_> _jeff, is this what you're talking about? http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/kde/metabar
[01:13] <eobanb_> okay...
[01:13] <chrisx1> _jason: its out of sync
[01:13] <_jason> pnoob, no
[01:13] <frogzoo> pnoob: I dont think so
[01:13] <Ummu> dr_willis: it seems that k3b is a cdrdao frontend, so... it might work
[01:13] <Goldfish> pnoob: Well, I use it for all my mythtv recording. I records all my shows into a mpeg4 without loading the CPU more than maybe 30%. HDTV decoding pushes it up higher, I don't use it for gaming or doing flashplayer stuff. Pretty good to me.
[01:13] <_jason> chrisx1, add the -framdrop switch and see if it goes away
[01:13] <eobanb_> is there any reason why you cant use the version in the repository, _jeff ?
[01:13] <Ummu> dr_willis: but people make frontends for it for a reason. :P
[01:13] <dr_willis> Ummu,  yea.. i just saw cuetools - tools for manipulating CUE/TOC files   - also..
[01:13] <_jason> chrisx1, typo: -framedrop
[01:13] <eagleye> Has anyone seen malkavain?
[01:14] <zim> if you "rfcomm bind 0 macaddress 17" on some phones you dont need to pair of auth
[01:14] <pnoob> Goldfish,  ever crash the box?
[01:14] <_sebastian> since I got rid of previous version formatted of Ubuntu the other day.  and been doing Apache and PHP last two days.  and now MySQL.  I still only got just the default Ubuntu account with  some admin pprivildgess.   maybe I  I
[01:14] <frogzoo> !last malkavain
[01:14] <ubotflu> Syntax error in line 1, frogzoo
[01:14] <dr_willis> Ummu,  yep. :P  nothing like missing a single option you needed...
[01:14] <frogzoo> !lastseen malkavain
[01:14] <ubotflu> frogzoo: Syntax error in line 1
[01:14] <_sebastian> should set up an actasul root account  is that what you were saying dougless to do?
[01:14] <Goldfish> frogzoo: There should be some /etc/init.d/mysql boot script. Boot scripts are always run as root. Typically, different applications are configured to run their main threads as somebody else. Like "nobody" for an apache web server.
[01:14] <eobanb_> !seen maklavain
[01:14] <ubotflu> eobanb_: i haven't seen 'maklavain'
[01:14] <cody> hey,I'm having problems with my ubuntu; for some reason it doesn't seem to update and itt thinks I am not the owner can anyone help me I am confused :S
[01:14] <eobanb_> er
[01:14] <chrisx1> _jason: its still there
[01:14] <eobanb_> !seen malkavain
[01:14] <ubotflu> eobanb_: i haven't seen 'malkavain'
[01:14] <dr_willis> cody, are you runnng as the inital user you made?
[01:14] <wastrel> hi hi, anyone know what USB device i should point my /dev/pilot symlink to so pilot-link can see my palm ?
[01:14] <zim> you then can do stuff use at commands top do stuff
[01:14] <dooglus> _sebastian: I very much doubt if you need to set a unix root password - just set a mysql root password
[01:15] <_sebastian> how to do I do that?
[01:15] <zim> u can then use at commands to do stuff
[01:15] <_sebastian> how do I do that?
[01:15] <Ummu> dr_willis: urgh, thanks for theh elp
[01:15] <_sebastian> I carn't even log in at the moment
[01:15] <_sebastian> this is to set up a root password?
[01:15] <frogzoo> Goldfish: but if you were paranoid, you sometimes can su within the boot script
[01:15] <dr_willis> Ummu,  :P
[01:15] <_sebastian> there is a thingey I was reading
[01:15] <_sebastian> two commands I suppoused to put in and
[01:15] <_jason> chrisx1, it may be the file, there is a way to manually sync it iirc. If your file is an avi you may want to try the -ni option as the error message suggests
[01:15] <haypo> no idea? how can I kill gam_server?
[01:16] <zim> i need to make a script that will test all the phones in the office
[01:16] <chrisx1> _jason: its a dvd.
[01:16] <PhilH> Error getting session information.
[01:16] <PhilH> cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.12-10-k7
[01:16] <PhilH> cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
[01:16] <PhilH> cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.
[01:16] <PhilH> Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?
[01:16] <_sebastian> yes these commands
[01:16] <PhilH> : Operation not permitted
[01:16] <PhilH> cdrecord: Found DVD+ media but DVD+R/DVD+RW support code is missing.
[01:16] <PhilH> cdrecord: If you need DVD+R/DVD+RW support, ask the Author for cdrecord-ProDVD.
[01:16] <_sebastian> yes these commands
[01:16] <PhilH> cdrecord: Free test versions and free keys for personal use are at ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/
[01:16] <Goldfish> See http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5725
[01:16] <_jason> ubotflu, tell PhilH about pastebin
[01:16] <PhilH> cdrecord: Success. read toc: scsi sendcmd: no error
[01:16] <_sebastian> /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'new-password'
[01:16] <_sebastian> /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root -h ubuntu password 'new-password'
[01:16] <PhilH> CDB:  43 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 04 00
[01:16] <PhilH> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
[01:16] <PhilH> Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 24 00 00 00
[01:16] <PhilH> Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
[01:16] <blanky> wtf
[01:16] <PhilH> Sense Code: 0x24 Qual 0x00 (invalid field in cdb) Fru 0x0
[01:16] <blanky> shut up
[01:16] <frogzoo> PhilH: pls don't paste here - peeps have to share teh channel
[01:16] <pnoob> Goldfish, that board and CPU are NOT compatible one's 939 and one's 754??? What are trying to tell me?
[01:16] <zim> if they are at risk use the phone to text me i can then inform the office
[01:16] <blanky> !tell PhilH about spam
[01:17] <Goldfish> pnoob: No, they are both socket 939.
[01:17] <blanky> !kick PhilH
[01:17] <ubotflu> blanky: No idea
[01:17] <Goldfish> _sebastian: That is not who is running mysql. That is user accounts to access the database. Very different.
[01:17] <nalioth> PhilH: please read the /topic and don't paste in here
[01:17] <frogzoo> pnoob: a 939 cpu can fit ina 754 socket - u just have to push hard enough :p
[01:17] <PhilH> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d5723
[01:17] <blanky> Hey guys, I'm saying this here on purpose; is kde on ubuntu (kubuntu-desktop) getting any better? it's always sucked no offense
[01:18] <nalioth> blanky: it's always getting better
[01:18] <eagleye> Has anyone seen malkivain? Anyone know if hes been on?
[01:18] <_sebastian> RIght so how to create a MySQL root password? account
[01:18] <_jason> chrisx1, note sure, I've never used it for dvd's.  It doesn't throw the error though, just out of sync?
[01:18] <Krhis> XD Yea, it's just the heat sink that might not fit.
[01:18] <frogzoo> blanky: yes its getting better - yes theres still problems
[01:18] <pnoob> Goldfish,  YOu LiarrR ... go look at the cpu link you sent.
[01:18] <blanky> nalioth: do you think it has gotten considerably better since say, last month?
[01:18] <chrisx1> no
[01:18] <nalioth> blanky: probably not "considerably" but then again, perhaps you should ask the experts in #kubuntu
[01:18] <dooglus> _sebastian: I'll take a look
[01:18] <Goldfish> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123230   EPoX EP-9NDA3J Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce3 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
[01:18] <_jason> chrisx1, no, as in it does throw the error?
[01:19] <dirkson> Hi all- I'm trying to set up dual monitors, but whenever I turn on my compy without having the second monitor plugged in, then plug it in later, Ubuntu makes the second monitor 640x480, instead of the 1024x768 I have specified in xorg.conf. Is there any way to FORCE it to only use 1024x768?
[01:19] <blanky> nalioth, I know about #kubuntu, I just didn't want to hear biased things
[01:19] <blanky> I'll ask em
[01:19] <nalioth> Goldfish: take that line of chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:19] <pnoob> Goldfish, the cpu was 754
[01:19] <chrisx1> _jason: it gives no error
[01:19] <zim> _sebastian try phpmyadmin great tool
[01:19] <frogzoo> dirkson: u on ati?
[01:19] <_sebastian> yes I been using phpmyadmin zim
[01:19] <dirkson> Frogzoo: Nvidia.
[01:19] <_sebastian> and I try to log in and stuff
[01:19] <_sebastian> and I get error message
[01:19] <dooglus> _sebastian: do you see any output from "pgrep -l mysql" ?
[01:19] <Goldfish> pnoob: I see. That CPU must be out of stock. Sorry.
[01:20] <zim> ok in the mysql db there is a user table
[01:20] <_sebastian> MySQL noob.  what's pgrep -l  mysql?
[01:20] <frogzoo> dirkson: there a tool for setting res for dual mode - mebbe nvidia have something similiar
[01:20] <pnoob> Goldfish, no sweat just thought yu were scranking me.
[01:20] <Goldfish> pnoob: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Winchester 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3200BIBOX - Retail
[01:20] <quitit> where is libglade located ?
[01:20] <frogzoo> quitit: locate libglade ?
[01:21] <dirkson> Frogzoo: Great idea- I do have a little nvida app, I'd forgotten about it
[01:21] <pnoob> Goldfish, is this what you have or what?
[01:21] <nalioth> Goldfish: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[01:21] <zim> add you password in the root record but change the data type to password
[01:21] <dooglus> _sebastian: pgrep is "process grep" - it lists processes that are running
[01:21] <nalioth> pnoob: you and Goldfish please talk about that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:21] <_sebastian> I am a MySQL begginer.  What's  pgrep -l  mysql
[01:21] <Goldfish> Okay!
[01:21] <_sebastian> right so that's a command for the shell right?
[01:22] <zim> then edit phpmyadmin config so it can access you mysql server again
[01:22] <frogzoo> _sebastian: yep
[01:22] <Goldfish> pnoob: Meet me there, okay?
[01:22] <pnoob> nalioth,  yeah just a noob sorry.
[01:22] <yodoy> Hey, once I have installed it
[01:22] <yodoy> how do I start X :O?
[01:22] <_jason> chrisx1, your best bet is probably google at this point.  If I were you I would read man mplayer first and look into the 'autosync' option (you can search a man page by press the '/' and typing 'autosync' then enter).  Also, the shortcut keys '+' and '-' are responsible for audio delay.
[01:22] <frogzoo> yodoy: just boot
[01:22] <yodoy> frogzoo, type 'boot' ?
[01:23] <johnl> hi
[01:23] <frogzoo> yodoy: turn on comp - select Ubuntu from grub screen & login
[01:23] <zim> _sebastian remeber to edit the conf file in  phpmyadmin withyour new password
[01:23] <chrisx1> _jason: i used -autsync 20
[01:23] <chrisx1> ty
[01:23] <chrisx1> then messed wth =/-
[01:23] <chrisx1> cya
[01:23] <rosen> can anyone tell me the default location for firestarter ? .. trying to add it to the startup process in 'sessions'
[01:23] <dirkson> Frogzoo: Unfortunately, it just seems to be a GUI frontend for xorg.conf... Useful in a way, but it doesn't allow me ANY options resolution at all :-/
[01:23] <frogzoo> yodoy: gdm starts up by default
[01:23] <quitit> frogzoo: thanks
[01:23] <johnl> I broke my breezy installation by installing the dapper kernel to test it.  can any one help me?  I usually know what I'm doing, but I'm stumped.
[01:24] <_jason> chrisx1, huh?
[01:24] <_sebastian> sebastian@ubuntu:/$ pgrep -l mysq
[01:24] <_sebastian> 10343 mysqld_safe
[01:24] <_sebastian> 10450 mysqld
[01:24] <_sebastian> 10526 mysql-admin
[01:24] <haypo> found it! write lines like "fsset ext3 none" in /etc/gamin/gaminrc, and then killall -9 gam_server ;-)
[01:24] <haypo> thanks for you great help
[01:24] <haypo> bye
[01:24] <aqfn> can FDISK fix partition tables somehow?
[01:24] <_sebastian> ah kicked out
[01:24] <dirkson> johnl: In future, rename old kernel something like 'oldkernel.old', and put an entry in grub for it. I'm not enough of a guru to help you know, though :-/
[01:24] <_sebastian> ,because I copyed some lines from the shell and put here
[01:24] <nalioth> _sebastian: please do not paste in here, see the /topic
[01:25] <dirkson> johnl: *now
[01:25] <johnl> dirk: well I used the deb packages, so grub handles all that :)
[01:25] <dirkson> johnl: Ahhh, ok : )
[01:25] <_jason> chrisx1, here this may get you started: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/bugs-audio.html#bugs-delay-all
[01:25] <yodoy> frogzoo, any documentation on dualbooting ubuntu?
[01:25] <PhilH> So, can anyone at all help me with my DVD burner?
[01:25] <poningru> !tell yodoy about dual boot
[01:25] <poningru> !tell yodoy about dualboot
[01:26] <frogzoo> johnl: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:26] <quitit> !tell quitit about dualboot
[01:26] <johnl> frogzoo, tbh it seems to be something to do with udev
[01:26] <_sebastian> pgrep -l mysq  comes up with three MySQL things
[01:26] <johnl> new dapper kernel pulled in new udev packages
[01:27] <johnl> new kernel didn't boot, so I went back to old kernel (and now old udev) but having serious problems
[01:27] <johnl> hotplug won't load firmware for my ipw2200 card
[01:27] <marky> hi all
[01:27] <johnl> mouse modules not loaded
[01:27] <frogzoo> dirkson: heres how they do it in gentoo - should help http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors#TwinView
[01:28] <_sebastian> So how to ceate a MySQL root password?
[01:28] <_sebastian> someone told me, but hten I got kicked out so all that went bye bye
[01:28] <simonvallore> l
[01:28] <nalioth> ubotflu: tell _sebastian about logs
[01:28] <simonvallore> is there a way i can remote destop to linux via a windows xp computer ?
[01:28] <pnoob> Hey, what are the other IRC channels for UBUNTU?
[01:29] <_sebastian> oh so there is a IRC chat log.  I was wondering if there was or not
[01:29] <marky> anyone use wireless on ubuntu?
[01:29] <frogzoo> !channels
[01:29] <ubotflu> frogzoo: Are you smoking crack?
[01:29] <ryan_> get two linux computer?
[01:29] <dirkson> Frogzoo: Cool, thanks : ) (My Ubuntu is so messed up you might as well call it gentoo anyway *wink*)
[01:29] <nalioth> frogzoo: help.ubuntu.com will answer your question
[01:30] <_sebastian> Marky  wireless and any LInux distro.  usually a night mare.  Hardwired is better
[01:30] <dooglus> _sebastian: any luck yet?
[01:30] <rosen> I need to find firestarters 'startup' file so I can add it to the programlist that starts when I boot the computer ... how can I find it when the search option doesnt come up with any results ?
[01:30] <ryan_> anyone know something bout bzflag?
[01:30] <PokerFacePenguin> ryan_: only that it is a game
[01:30] <ryan_> lol
[01:30] <frogzoo> thx nalioth pnoob -> help.ubuntu.com
[01:30] <PokerFacePenguin> :P
[01:30] <dooglus> _sebastian: I just installed mysql-server and set the root password, like this: /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password mynewpassword
[01:30] <ryan_> hahahaha
[01:30] <marky> i've ot it kinda running , it sees the card etc, just wondered what the best apps are  , got rader and fwifimanager
[01:31] <_sebastian> any luck ?  nope all I done is the pgrep -l mysq  thing and it came up with three MySQL things.
[01:31] <dooglus> rosen: all startup scripts are in /etc/init.d
[01:31] <_sebastian> I think I tryed that command eariler and woudn't work
[01:31] <_sebastian> i'll try again
[01:31] <ryan_> http://www.rainydawg.org/listen/high.m3u good music
[01:31] <dooglus> _sebastian: tell me what it tells you
[01:31] <factotum> my folks have a p3 400mHz with 512 ram, would ubuntu w/gnome run any faster than windows xp with firewall and anivirus?
[01:31] <marky> anyone one know of some cool wifi wireless apps?
[01:31] <drayen_> is there a set Ubuntu64 channel?
[01:31] <nalioth> drayen_: you are in it
[01:32] <Goldfish> marky: I installed network-manager yesterday. Just what I wanted.
[01:32] <drayen_> nalioth, ahh okay
[01:32] <nalioth> factotum: it will run faster, yes
[01:32] <marky> network manager
[01:32] <rosen> dooglus, ah hey again :) ... should I worry about the 'order' ?
[01:32] <Trilom> Need help with sound, i have a C-Media PCI card and i have ran XMMS and when i play a song i get a could not open audio error, help please.
[01:32] <marky> goldfish  , where did you get t from?
[01:32] <ryan_> anyone know why sound works fine in game then after exit and reopen i get no sound?
[01:32] <_sebastian> how can I tell you by copying from shell and not getting booted out?
[01:33] <frogzoo> !pastebin
[01:33] <ubotflu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:33] <factotum> nalioth: thanks, I dont have much experience with head to head performance between the two :P
[01:33] <nalioth> _sebastian: you were sent a link from ubotflu about where to paste things
[01:33] <_sebastian> yes I went to that page
[01:33] <_sebastian> looked like a load of
[01:33] <_sebastian> ,but ok i'll try it
[01:33] <dooglus> rosen: these things usually look after themselves.  look in /etc/rc2.d/ - it's full of links to /etc/init.d/, and defines what gets 'S'tarted at runlevel 2 and what gets 'K'illed.  runlevel 2 is the default level
[01:33] <frogzoo> _sebastian: paste into pastebin - then post the URL back here so peeps can find it
[01:33] <nalioth> factotum: default ubuntu needs no firewalls or a/v
[01:33] <dooglus> _sebastian: you can send me a private message if you like, or use the pastebin
[01:33] <_sebastian> ok
[01:34] <PhilH> factotum, but it might not burn DVDs
[01:34] <drayen_> im trying to get JEdit to run in Ubuntu64, but when i try to run it i get an out of memory error...  :S
[01:34] <_sebastian> private message?  yes 1 on 1 chat  is good.  how we do that?  I am quite new to IRC really only used it a few times
[01:34] <rosen> dooglus, allright I'll check it out ... thanks again mister oracle man
[01:34] <Phoul> Is there a deb for limewire?
[01:34] <simprix> Is anyone actually running banshee on dapper ?
[01:34] <Goldfish> !find network-manager
[01:34] <dooglus> _sebastian: you need to be registered with nickserv to send private messages.  easiest way is probably to join #flood and paste in there
[01:35] <ubotflu> network-manager: (network management framework daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.4.1+cvs20050817-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 295 kB, Installed size: 1384 kB
[01:35] <factotum> nalioth: yeah i know that, added bonus! Ive just flopped back and forth between linux and freebsd for the last couple years. Windows hasnt been on this system since i built it two years ago. Before that it was only win2k
[01:35] <ryan_> ok?
[01:35] <PhilH> Phoul, limewire works quite well with alien
[01:35] <Goldfish> marky: Got it?
[01:35] <factotum> thats why i was kind of scratching my head on that one
[01:35] <marky> ubotflu thanks
[01:35] <ubotflu> gern geschehen, marky
[01:35] <marky> goldfish, yes thanks
[01:35] <Goldfish> !botsnack
[01:35] <ubotflu> thanks goldfish :)
[01:35] <frogzoo> marky: ubotflu is a bot - just btw :)
[01:36] <Phoul> PhilH, whats alien?
[01:36] <gverig> Anybody knows if xfce supports WM-level keyboard layour switch or do I have to go into xorg.conf?
[01:36] <ryan_> anyone know why sound works fine in game then after exit and reopen i get no sound?
[01:36] <nalioth> ubotflu: tell Phoul about restricted
[01:36] <bimberi> !limewire
[01:36] <ubotflu> [limewire]  first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[01:36] <Trilom> Need help with sound, i have a C-Media PCI card and i have ran XMMS and when i play a song i get a could not open audio error, help please
[01:36] <Phoul> nalioth, i dont have a working JRE
[01:36] <Phoul> everytime i do it it dont work
[01:36] <frogzoo> !sound
[01:36] <ubotflu> from memory, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:36] <PokerFacePenguin> !automatix
[01:36] <ubotflu> hmm... automatix is crap
[01:36] <_jason> Phoul, have you used the java .debs?
[01:36] <PokerFacePenguin> lol
[01:37] <Phoul> jason no
[01:37] <marky> frogzoo lol i'd guessed
[01:37] <_jason> ubotflu, tell Phoul about javadebs
[01:37] <nalioth> ubotflu: tell Phoul about java
[01:37] <factotum> i really like this distro a lot and am recommending the heck out of it and passing out cd's like mad, but damn i miss my slackware. I feel like im on some sad half-baked distro/OS love triangle. down to 3, but only one system...*violin music*
[01:37] <marky> ubotflu tell marky about shh
[01:38] <Goldfish> factotum: Slackware, ubuntu, what is the 3rd?
[01:38] <Jormundgand> How can I add the Network Servers icon to computer:///?
[01:38] <marky> lol
[01:38] <factotum> freebsd
[01:38] <Jormundgand> When I drag it across from the Places menu I get an error about overwriting.
[01:38] <redvelvet> wow, i got my wireless card to work.
[01:38] <factotum> or any bsd really
[01:38] <PokerFacePenguin> factotum: you can always save slack for your usbkey..they have a nice modular thing going on that deal
[01:38] <Goldfish> I have to run. I'll be back. My mlinux.org meeting awaits.
[01:38] <wastrel> dear people,
[01:38] <quitit> hmm
[01:38] <quitit> cant seem to find libglade-config
[01:39] <wastrel> how do i configure a service to run on boot?
[01:39] <frogzoo> wastrel: just ask your question - pls no prelims
[01:39] <factotum> slack...on usb...   sorry, drooling. one sec.
[01:39] <simprix> Is anyone actually running banshee on dapper ?
[01:39] <frogzoo> wastrel: you need to write a /etc/init.d script & link in the /etc/rcx.d
[01:39] <arod--> this may be a lame question, but are there any linux versions of aol
[01:39] <coag> wastrel: well in gentoo, rc-update add blah default :P
[01:39] <_jason> quitit, install libglade0-dev
[01:39] <frogzoo> arod--: gaim I think support aol
[01:40] <wastrel> well i don't use gentoo anymore :]
[01:40] <PokerFacePenguin> arod--: you mean to chat?   try kopete or gaim to chat
[01:40] <arod--> frogzoo and PokerFacePenguin, i mean for e-mail.
[01:40] <redvelvet> what is a good mp3 player?
[01:40] <frogzoo> arod--: no aol support in gaim it seems...
[01:40] <arod--> and also, something to stream live music
[01:40] <coag> redvelvet: i like the Creative Zen Touch
[01:40] <drayen_> arod - doesnt AOL have webmail / POP interface?
[01:40] <PhilH> for AOL mail?
[01:41] <lucis> Redvelvet, cowon makes very good ones that support OGG vorbis
[01:41] <_jason> redvelvet, try Beep Media Player
[01:41] <coag> redvelvet: if you mean app try xmms
[01:41] <poningru> redvelvet: try the iaudio stuff
[01:41] <drayen_> frogzoo - AOL = AIM
[01:41] <frogzoo> drayen_: ah
[01:41] <poningru> redvelvet: as in a software or like an ipod?
[01:41] <redvelvet> im sorry... i meant a good linux mp3 player
[01:41] <JairunCaloth> Can someone help me, I need to redo my kernel so it will work with my new video drivers.
[01:41] <redvelvet> i have an iriver h140
[01:41] <coag> redvelvet: xmms is my favorite
[01:41] <RedRose> is there any way from a terminal that i can start an X window(I.E. Gaim)?
[01:41] <RedRose> on the main X server?
[01:41] <JairunCaloth> xmms rocks, you can use winamp skins with it
[01:41] <lucis> Redvelvet, i like Amorok
[01:41] <Phoul> anyone know how to download the debs...
[01:41] <lucis> Amarok*
[01:41] <coag> but there is also Beep media player mplayer, some k one :/ quodliet
[01:42] <PhilH> beep music player is like XMMS but better
[01:42] <redvelvet> thats very cool
[01:42] <coag> amarok is the k one
[01:42] <kauschovar> amarok rocks
[01:42] <_jason> Phoul, right click -> save as
[01:42] <frogzoo> RedRose: yup - 'gaim' - done
[01:42] <myke> does anyone ever have problems with d4x
[01:42] <Phoul> God dammit jason
[01:42] <myke> ?
[01:42] <Phoul> I know that lol
[01:42] <PhilH> rythmbox is pretty good, but not exactly what you might call feature rich
[01:42] <PokerFacePenguin> RedRose: gaim & is probably what u are looking for
[01:42] <_jason> Phoul, then what's the problem :)
[01:42] <Phoul> How do i get it working
[01:42] <Phoul> I have installed a JRE before
[01:42] <Phoul> And it didnt work
[01:42] <redvelvet> yes, i just got rythmbox to play mp3's but its just not that great
[01:42] <kbrooks> !info breezy prozilla
[01:42] <_jason> Phoul, you dpkg -i it?
[01:43] <Phoul> Jason
[01:43] <Phoul> I dont have a deb...
[01:43] <Jormundgand> Rhythmbox is one of those projects with not a lot of feature but tons of possibility.
[01:43] <kbrooks> !info prozilla
[01:43] <_jason> Phoul, ubotflu told you the link where to get it
[01:43] <lucis> redvelvet, Amarok is for KDE but it looks fine in gnome. it's similar to itunes, lots of features
[01:43] <PhilH> well, beep music player is my favourite, i like the idea of Rhythmbox, but it just isn't quite there, a bit like Ubuntu really :)
[01:43] <kbrooks> can someone help me.
[01:43] <nalioth> kbrooks: ask your question
[01:43] <kbrooks> !info prozilla breezy
[01:43] <qt2> tell you what, linux on this laptop is a pain in the ass to get working.
[01:43] <nalioth> kbrooks: it isn't there.
[01:44] <kbrooks> ubotu says it doesnt exist
[01:44] <frogzoo> kbrooks: no prelims - just leap in pls
[01:44] <dirkson> Hi all- I'm trying to set up dual monitors, but whenever I turn on my compy without having the second monitor plugged in, then plug it in later, Ubuntu makes the second monitor 640x480, instead of the 1024x768 I have specified in xorg.conf. Is there any way to FORCE it to only use 1024x768? Using an NVidia card if that helps
[01:44] <qt2> the cpu scaling is really messed up.
[01:44] <kbrooks> nalioth, but it installed for me
[01:44] <kbrooks> ages ago
[01:44] <_jason> Phoul, do you see where to get it?
[01:44] <nalioth> kbrooks: then you must be blessed, cuz it doesnt exit in breezy or dapper
[01:44] <frogzoo> dirkson: no luck @ that link?
[01:44] <wastrel> ok how am i supposed to talk to a device if i never know what the device node is going to be called on the filesystem?
[01:44] <kbrooks> nalioth, why not?
[01:44] <kbrooks> why wwas it removed?
[01:45] <nalioth> kbrooks: i'm not privy to that decision
[01:45] <wastrel> my usb device was on /dev/ttyUSB0 but now it's on /dev/ttyUSB2
[01:45] <marky> goldfish you here
[01:45] <kbrooks> nalioth, as in?
[01:45] <OpnSrc> How come I see openoffice.org help fules under synaptic package manager but I don't see openoffice itself?
[01:45] <Voodoo_Vibe> i only get sound on games but not ina any things on KDE... what could be wrong??
[01:45] <frogzoo> wastrel: you've switch USB ports I think
[01:45] <kbrooks> nalioth, "privy" meaning what?
[01:45] <marky> i've installed that network thingy but can't find it to run it
[01:46] <myke> can i get directx working in wine?
[01:46] <wastrel> frogzoo:  i haven't, for one, and for another, still i'm supposed to remember to always plug into the same port?
[01:46] <wastrel> frogzoo:  this is a removable device
[01:46] <wastrel> is there some wrapper where i can just say "find this in the currently connected usb devices and give me a filename"
[01:47] <Phoul> _jason,
[01:47] <Phoul> Dude
[01:47] <marky> ubotflu tell marky about network-manager
[01:47] <frogzoo> wastrel: I'm no expert - but I think the map files for hotplug should be able to bind a device
[01:47] <Phoul> PM please...
[01:47] <coag> wastrel: plug it in and typ dmesg int he console
[01:47] <_jason> Phoul, just talk here, that way if i lie to you you will know
[01:47] <coag> and look for anything about USB activity
[01:47] <Phoul> Uhh okay
[01:47] <dirkson> Frogzoo: Not really :-/ Gives a lot of info on basic stuff, but I've got the monitor mostly set up.... It's just getting it to actually use the resolution I want, reguardless to whether the monitor cable is plugged in
[01:48] <wastrel> it's on /dev/ttyUSB3
[01:48] <frogzoo> dirkson: you see the mention of dual monitor setup?
[01:48] <Phoul> jason okay ubotflu said
[01:48] <wastrel> hm it's on both 2 and 3, but it used to be on 0 and 1
[01:48] <Phoul> _jason wants you to know: hmm... javadebs is Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:48] <Phoul> Now
[01:48] <Phoul> What do i do with that URL
[01:48] <_jason> Phoul, put it in your browser and press enter
[01:49] <marky> anyone know how i run network-manager
[01:49] <marky> ?
[01:49] <wastrel> ahhh
[01:49] <Voodoo_Vibe> i only get sound on games but not ina any things on KDE... what could be wrong??
[01:49] <wastrel> there was a hung process keeping 0 and 1 open
[01:49] <coag> Voodoo_Vibe: your KDE apps may not be using the right soundserver or are pointing to the wrong device
[01:49] <_jason> Phoul, except that link is timing out for me right now.  Strange because I checked it when I sent it to you... I can dcc you the file if you wish
[01:49] <OpnSrc> n/m
[01:49] <Voodoo_Vibe> coag: in kinda newb... how do i check that?
[01:50] <Phoul> jason yes please
[01:50] <Phoul> its timing out for me to
[01:50] <wastrel> hot stuff
[01:50] <frogzoo> !tell marky about network-manager
[01:50] <coag> Voodoo_Vibe: it's app specific
[01:50] <wastrel> kk i'm not used to working with usb crap
[01:50] <wastrel> never really used it on my desktop :]
[01:50] <marky> thank you frogzoo
[01:50] <Voodoo_Vibe> coag: ok so then i need to alter it in xmms??
[01:50] <Jormundgand> How can I add the Network Servers icon to the list of icons in computer:///?
[01:51] <coag> ahh i can tell you hwo to do that
[01:51] <coag> :P
[01:51] <coag> Voodoo_Vibe: right click on the main xmms window
[01:51] <coag> and go to preferences
[01:52] <coag> Voodoo_Vibe: from there go to plugins and choose output plugins
[01:52] <wastrel> coag/frogzoo thx cuties luv you
[01:52] <coag> Voodoo_Vibe: change the plugin there from OSS to ALSA and you're on your own from there since i don't know your machine
[01:52] <coag> wastrel: ahhhhhh
[01:52] <Voodoo_Vibe> coag: OK! Thanx!!
[01:52] <coag> worked i take it?
[01:53] <bulio> well
[01:53] <bulio> I upgraded from warty to hoary
[01:53] <bulio> I reboot now?
[01:53] <coag> bulio: you do realize breezy is out now right?
[01:54] <bulio> I know
[01:54] <coag> bulio: yes though, you need to reboot into the new kernel
[01:54] <bulio> gave me problems, not upgrading to it
[01:54] <bulio> it ends like this:
[01:54] <bulio> Setting up openoffice.org-gtk-gnome (1.1.3-8ubuntu2.3) ...
[01:54] <bulio> root@emachine:/home/bulio #
[01:54] <bulio> right?
[01:54] <bulio> rebooting now
[01:54] <bulio> wish me luck :)
[01:55] <RiCON> hello
[01:55] <RiCON> can i ask troubleshooting questions here?
[01:55] <Voodoo_Vibe> coag: got it working now!! BIG thanx!!!
[01:55] <HymnToLife> RiCON > yes, the place is meant for that
[01:55] <RiCON> hehe, thx ^^"
[01:56] <dirkson> frogzoo: Sorry for long pause. Yes, I did.
[01:56] <RiCON> ok, my problem is this:
[01:56] <RiCON> when i go to install ubuntu, it says it's having trouble reading from the cd
[01:56] <RiCON> files from baseconfig-udeb
[01:56] <techrush> how can i add an application to the application menu
[01:56] <RiCON> i already burned 3 isos
[01:56] <HymnToLife> RiCON > then it is ertainly a bad CD
[01:57] <RiCON> so it can't be that
[01:57] <PhilH> techrush, which ubuntu version?
[01:57] <DRAGON_Ultra> ricon what os you running
[01:57] <HymnToLife> RiCON > try burning them at lower speed
[01:57] <RiCON> right now? xp
[01:57] <RiCON> ok
[01:57] <DRAGON_Ultra> hmm
[01:57] <RiCON> 4x low enough?
[01:57] <techrush> 5.10
[01:57] <HymnToLife> yes
[01:57] <PokerFacePenguin> RiCON: burn slowly, check md5 checksum matches
[01:57] <RiCON> checked already
[01:57] <PhilH> right click on the applications menu
[01:57] <HymnToLife> it's the speed I burn important stuff generally
[01:57] <techrush> thanks
[01:57] <RiCON> checked using jigto too
[01:58] <RiCON> jigdo*
[01:58] <PhilH> techrush, click edit menus
[01:58] <RiCON> i'll try burning at 4x then
[01:58] <HymnToLife> jigdo stinks
[01:58] <RiCON> lol
[01:58] <RiCON> i used md5 first :P
[01:58] <HymnToLife> it is too damn slow
[01:58] <whitynz> What do I put in fstab to write to a Fat32 partition?
[01:58] <HymnToLife> !fat32
[01:58] <ubotflu> well, fat32 is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[01:59] <HymnToLife> LOL
[01:59] <whitynz> cheers
[01:59] <HymnToLife> ubotflu, THAT's a nick :p
[01:59] <ubotflu> HymnToLife: What?
[01:59] <earldude1> I have a question about Apache2 in ubuntu.  in the user guide for setting up
[01:59] <earldude1> How do I map URLs to folders outside /var/www/sudo gedit /etc/apache2/conf.d/alias
[01:59] <HymnToLife> !apache
[01:59] <ubotflu> somebody said apache was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[02:00] <earldude1> oops
[02:00] <Zugwrack> I am getting an error when trying to upgrade: It is short ok to past here?
[02:00] <earldude1> that question didn't make sense
[02:00] <Zugwrack> *paste
[02:00] <earldude1> let me try again.
[02:00] <HymnToLife> !pastebin
[02:00] <ubotflu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:01] <marky> chaps , i'm back i just restarted to see if that "network-manager" ewould turn up in my menu , but no luck, any idea?
[02:01] <HymnToLife> marky > try running "sudo network-admin" from a terminal
[02:01] <redvelvet> do any linux media players play mp4?
[02:01] <marky> ok
[02:01] <Zugwrack> Ok here is the link:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5726
[02:02] <HymnToLife> redvelvet > which kind of mp4 ?
[02:02] <earldude1> why does the user guide specify to create a file called "alias" inside the directory /etc/apache2/conf.d/ for mapping folders outside of /var/www?  What is the conf.d directory for and how does apache know to look for this alias script?
[02:02] <HymnToLife> !tell earldude1 about apache
[02:02] <redvelvet> hymtolife: the audio
[02:02] <redvelvet> maybe its m4p
[02:03] <HymnToLife> redvelvet > hmm, tried vlc ?
[02:03] <marky> hymmtolife  , thats the standard network thingy  , i just installed something called "network-manager but i can't find it  , and it won't run from terminal
[02:03] <ToR911> hello all, how can i change my current language keyboard input?
[02:03] <Phoul> whats the dp command thingy
[02:03] <Phoul> I can never remember
[02:03] <_jason|soup> !deb
[02:03] <ubotflu> I guess deb is To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[02:04] <frogzoo> Phoul: sudo dpkg -i x.deb
[02:04] <HymnToLife> Debian PacKaGe
[02:04] <bulio> YAY!
[02:04] <bulio> warty works :P
[02:04] <frogzoo> bulio: wtf? upgrade to breezy
[02:05] <HymnToLife> now you can try Hoary :p
[02:05] <robertj> hehe, why are you installing warty?
[02:06] <Neurosis> Does anyone know of Linpal?
[02:06] <HymnToLife> because it's s0 1337 :p
[02:06] <Phoul> Selecting previously deselected package sun-j2re1.5.
[02:06] <Phoul> (Reading database ... 110774 files and directories currently installed.)
[02:06] <Phoul> Unpacking sun-j2re1.5 (from sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update05_i386.deb) ...
[02:06] <Phoul> Setting up sun-j2re1.5 (1.5.0+update05) ...
[02:06] <Phoul> Now what >.>
[02:06] <ToR911> how do u switch the keyboard input language with a shortcut (like ALT-SHIT) in Windows?
[02:06] <HymnToLife> !tel Phoul about pastebin
[02:06] <ubotflu> HymnToLife: Are you smoking crack?
[02:06] <nalioth> Phoul: please read the /topic
[02:06] <Phoul> Woops...
[02:06] <HymnToLife> !tell Phoul about pastebin
[02:06] <Phoul> Sorry
[02:06] <_jason|soup> ubotflu, tell Phoul about multijava
[02:06] <Phoul> I GET IT
[02:06] <Phoul> jason
[02:06] <_jason|soup> Phoul, make sure it is using j2re
[02:06] <Phoul> It set it up and unpacked it
[02:07] <Phoul> what do i do now
[02:07] <josh__> :/
[02:07] <Neurosis> Can someone help me with a make error on Linpal?
[02:07] <nalioth> ubotflu: tell Neurosis about paste
[02:07] <Zugwrack> Ok so how do I flush my cache /var/cache/apt?
[02:07] <marky> looks like network-manager is buggy
[02:07] <Bizzeh> hey
[02:07] <nalioth> Neurosis: see the PM ubotflu sent you and paste your error, please
[02:07] <marky> can't get it to fire up
[02:07] <bimberi> Zugwrack: sudo apt-get clean
[02:07] <mrkoje> !beer time
[02:07] <ubotflu> mrkoje: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:07] <HymnToLife> Zugwrack > sudo rm /var/cache/apt/*
[02:07] <Bizzeh> i have tried 3 times to get ubuntu to install to a second partition on my drive, WITHOUT it messing with my mbr
[02:07] <Bizzeh> but
[02:07] <Bizzeh> it wont
[02:08] <Zugwrack> bimberi: Thank  you
[02:08] <Neurosis> ok
[02:08] <bimberi> Zugwrack: np :)
[02:08] <HymnToLife> Bizzeh > then skip the GRUB install part
[02:08] <nalioth> Bizzeh: you'll need to make a grub boot floppy
[02:08] <Neurosis> pasted
[02:08] <Bizzeh> can i make grub install to the partition and NOT the mbr?
[02:09] <nalioth> Neurosis: can you tell us the URL of the pastebin?
[02:09] <Bizzeh> then i can dd the first 512bytes and make it boot with ntldr
[02:09] <Ophiocus> how can i make sure my secondary network card runs at startup?
[02:09] <Techie_dude> i unzipped the java run time package and then ....nothing what do i do to set it up?
[02:09] <josh__> Bizzeh: I would install grub on to the MBR if I were you
[02:09] <josh__> it is easier
[02:09] <nalioth> Techie_dude: did you visit hte wiki page for java?
[02:09] <Neurosis> i did it in the flood channel
[02:09] <sethk> Ophiocus, the same way you make sure that your primary network card runs at startup
[02:09] <Zugwrack> Hey nalioth: What up?
[02:09] <Bizzeh> then i cant boot windows on my main partition
[02:09] <Techie_dude> no...okay....
[02:09] <Bizzeh> cos ntldr is gone
[02:09] <nalioth> Neurosis: you should let us know so we can be watching
[02:09] <ptlo> Bizzeh: of course you can, grub can boot windows just fine
[02:09] <nalioth> Zugwrack: samesame
[02:10] <Bizzeh> and u need ntldr to chainload, since grub cant nativly boot windows
[02:10] <josh__> Bizzeh: No. GRUB will allow you to select between windows and linux
[02:10] <Neurosis> ok ill paste in the flood channel again
[02:10] <Ophiocus> sethk, tried that, doing nothing dosent work ;)
[02:10] <ptlo> Bizzeh: ntldr is located on the windows partition, and grub can load it
[02:10] <HymnToLife> unlike windows boot loader...
[02:10] <nalioth> Bizzeh: my grub boots winXp just fine
[02:10] <sethk> Ophiocus, I didn't say to do nothing
[02:10] <josh__> Partition your master hdd into 2, install linux onto the second partition, and grub should work fine
[02:10] <benoy> hi, can anyone help me with cache in ubuntu
[02:10] <Neurosis> pasted
[02:10] <josh__> nalioth: same here :)
[02:10] <sethk> Ophiocus, you didn't "do nothing" about your other network card.  The fact that the install program did it for you doesn't make any difference
[02:10] <Ophiocus> the same way you make sure that your primary network card runs at startup  <= nothing
[02:10] <benoy> I am trying to find a website i visited earlier but I earesed the history
[02:11] <CaptainMorgan> yo!
[02:11] <josh__> though i have windows ME, which is why I use ubuntu :P
[02:11] <HymnToLife> in fact, partition it into 4
[02:11] <sethk> Ophiocus, no, if you do nothing, neither will run
[02:11] <Bizzeh> how well does ubuntu support wireless?
[02:11] <benoy> can I use the cache to find the website?
[02:11] <nalioth> ubotflu: tell Bizzeh about wireless
[02:11] <sethk> Ophiocus, you misunderstand what happens during install
[02:11] <HymnToLife> Windows, /, swap and /home
[02:11] <CaptainMorgan> depends on your card Bizzeh
[02:11] <bimberi> !tell Bizzeh about wireless
[02:11] <Bizzeh> TI card, uses acx111
[02:11] <sethk> Ophiocus, now, you can run the same "nothing" that you ran to configure your primary card, to also configure your secondary card
[02:11] <Ophiocus> sethk,  command or link
[02:11] <Neurosis> see the paste?
[02:11] <marky> tell me about wireless aswell
[02:11] <sethk> Ophiocus, administration/network
[02:12] <CaptainMorgan> how come after running synaptic, "the following packages were not upgraded: Linux-image-386, Linux-restricted-modules-386"
[02:12] <CaptainMorgan> why?
[02:12] <Goldfish> !wireless
[02:12] <ubotflu> wireless is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:12] <Zugwrack> Hmmm...synaptic locked up...said so..I told it to force quit...now the icon for the update monitor has disappeared?
[02:12] <josh__> Does anyone here know how to play mp3 files in ubuntu?
[02:12] <benoy> anyone???
[02:12] <CaptainMorgan> josh - noatun
[02:12] <HymnToLife> !mp3
[02:12] <ubotflu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:12] <bimberi> !tell josh__ about mp3
[02:12] <ElitePete> how can i get a list of all running process's ?
[02:12] <CaptainMorgan> josh - aromark
[02:12] <_jason|soup> benoy, try about:cache
[02:12] <Ophiocus> CaptainMorgan, make sure you have universe repositories , those are restricted packages
[02:12] <HymnToLife> amarok*
[02:12] <Goldfish> ElitePete: ps -ef
[02:12] <Zugwrack> ps -ax
[02:12] <ElitePete> ty
[02:12] <bimberi> ElitePete: ps aux
[02:12] <benoy> how do i do that?
[02:12] <frogzoo> marky: you can /msg ubotflu yourself (if registered)
[02:13] <CaptainMorgan> ophicous how do know? do i check a box to get universe repos'?
[02:13] <_jason|soup> benoy, instead of 'www.google.com' put 'about:cache' and press enter
[02:13] <HymnToLife> !repos
[02:13] <ubotflu> rumour has it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[02:13] <benoy> oh ok
[02:13] <Zugwrack> ElitePete: If you are looking for something specific you can ps -ax |grep <findthis>
[02:13] <CaptainMorgan> !repos
[02:13] <Neurosis> nalioth?
[02:13] <josh__> :/
[02:13] <frogzoo> CaptainMorgan: u can enable repos through synaptic
[02:14] <Ophiocus> CaptainMorgan, synaptic=>setting=>repositories ,.. simply select everything if you aint sure what you need
[02:14] <ElitePete>  5749 ?         If that doesn't work, kill -9 5749
[02:14] <CaptainMorgan> omg.. didn't know about that.. ophiocus..
[02:15] <Zugwrack> What is the name of the package monitoring program?
[02:15] <HymnToLife> Synaptic
[02:15] <josh__> yea
[02:15] <Ophiocus> neither did i, someone told me, now i pass the favor, hope it helps
[02:15] <earldude1> what is meant by putting an exclamation mark in the beginning of your comments here?
[02:16] <josh__> synaptic is the easiest way to install programs :P
[02:16] <HymnToLife> !ubotflu
[02:16] <ubotflu> HymnToLife: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:16] <MickMcMack> Synaptic, yuck
[02:16] <MickMcMack> .
[02:16] <HymnToLife> well earldude1 it's to tell ubotflu to explain something
[02:16] <bimberi> earldude1: it requests a response from ubotflu (a bot)
[02:16] <drayen_> hey, im trying to get JEdit to run, i installed java via the automatrix, but when i run JEdit from the command line i get GC Warning: Out of Memory!  Returning NIL! - any ideas?
[02:16] <HymnToLife> so we don't have to repeat the same thing over and over again
[02:16] <Goldfish> !botsnack
[02:16] <ubotflu> :)
[02:16] <HymnToLife> !ubotu
[02:16] <ubotflu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[02:17] <MickMcMack> Why is ubotflu ill? :(
[02:17] <fdelacruz> guys morning
[02:17] <amonkey> what's a good channel to ask about usb wifi adapters that work well with linux?
[02:17] <fdelacruz> guys how can I update manually my webmin, rigth now Im using 1.230 I got this when I install using apt-get, I need to upgrade it to 1.250 so that I can install the module of samba and squid
[02:17] <CaptainMorgan> of course synaptic is easy... but I couldn't figure out why it wasn't installing certain modules..
[02:17] <Zugwrack> fdelecruz: Or evening depeding :-)
[02:17] <bulio_> I used pppoeconf to setup my internet connection
[02:17] <bulio_> now I put on my router
[02:17] <bulio_> sinvce the router handles PPPOE, and the conf is running, it messes up internet
[02:18] <bimberi> MickMcMack: ubotu's normal server is having connectivity issues :)
[02:18] <fdelacruz> Zugwrack hi, any idea how can I update my webmin?
[02:18] <CaptainMorgan> how come after running synaptic, "the following packages were not upgraded: Linux-image-386, Linux-restricted-modules-386"
[02:18] <bulio_> how can I remove the pppoeconf config, and run my router?
[02:18] <CaptainMorgan> still receiving that
[02:18] <MickMcMack> Ah, thanks bimberi - was just curious. :)
[02:18] <Neurosis> can someone help me on this make error i get for Linpal?
[02:18] <Zugwrack> fdelacruz: Just a sec
[02:18] <HymnToLife> CaptainMorgan > make sure you hit reload after updating the repos
[02:18] <bulio_> anyone?
[02:18] <CaptainMorgan> did
[02:18] <Ophiocus> CaptainMorgan, remember to reload your current repositories after adding them
[02:19] <HymnToLife> Ophiocus > pwn3d :p
[02:19] <ToR911> how do i install firefox 1.5  , so all users could use it?
[02:19] <bimberi> !tissue
[02:19] <ubotflu> thanks *wipes nose*
[02:19] <HymnToLife> !firefox.5
[02:19] <ubotflu> HymnToLife: Syntax error in line 1
[02:19] <HymnToLife> !firefox1.5
[02:19] <ubotflu> I heard firefox1.5 is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:19] <Zugwrack> fdelacruz: How about dselect update <filename>
[02:20] <Zugwrack> fdelacruz: This comes from reading the man page for dpkg
[02:21] <constantine-xvi> ToR911: only way I know is to dl 1.5, and make a link to the 1.5 script where the old one is, rename it, and rename the old one to firefox.old
[02:21] <Ophiocus> i never get pwn3d , only set back :D
[02:21] <CaptainMorgan> synpatic telling me it want me to do 'apt-get dist-upgrade' yea right - last time I did that I completely lost X, had to back up everything and I just now reinstalled ubuntu
[02:21] <fdelacruz> by Zugwrack, k I will try that, thanks
[02:21] <earldude1> !botsnack
[02:21] <ubotflu> thanks earldude1 :)
[02:21] <Zugwrack> fdelacruz:np
[02:21] <earldude1> wow cool
[02:21] <constantine-xvi> ToR911: not elegant, but it works
[02:21] <earldude1> kinda cute even
[02:21] <earldude1> !botsnack
[02:21] <Zugwrack> benplaut: Kewl a roadrunner user in HI
[02:22] <benplaut> Zugwrack: yup :)
[02:22] <earldude1> !tell earldude1 about women
[02:22] <benplaut> ubotflu: still sick?
[02:22] <ubotflu> benplaut: Are you smoking crack?
[02:22] <benplaut> nope
[02:22] <korhalf> I am :)
[02:22] <mrkoje> !beer
[02:22] <sethk> constantine-xvi, ToR911,  you can right click the icon, choose properties, and change the invocation command
[02:22] <constantine-xvi> that too
[02:22] <benplaut> and it just PMed me: "dpkg knew: sick is cool"
[02:22] <benplaut> weird...
[02:23] <constantine-xvi> i like the complex way sometimes
[02:23] <quacker> !crack
[02:23] <ubotflu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[02:23] <ToR911> u know, the reason linux never catches on, is that its such a fucking pain to install stuff
[02:23] <earldude1> !tell earldude1 about apache2
[02:23] <ToR911> whats wrong with a simple make
[02:23] <earldude1> i thought linux had caught on
[02:23] <constantine-xvi> im the outcast of outcasts: i use ubuntu, but everyone else in our loose LUG uses gentoo
[02:24] <bulio_> can someone help me with a router?
[02:24] <josh__> Does anyone here know how to install internet explorer via wine :)?
[02:24] <Toma-> ToR911: why complain?
[02:24] <quacker> How can a bot get the flux ?!?
[02:24] <Toma-> josh__: ...why? i hear it is possible tho
[02:24] <HymnToLife> flu is REALLY nasty :p
[02:24] <earldude1> what the flux?
[02:24] <CaptainMorgan> ToR911 - I tried to setup my madwifi.. it required kernel 5.10, I dist upgraded and completely fucked my system.. I back everything up, revert back to 5.04
[02:24] <ToR911> toma: cuz its ez
[02:24] <redvelvet> <--newbie, just downloaded xmms.  what is the command to get the thing to configure, then install?
[02:24] <Ophiocus> josh__, why would you want to do such an atrocity?
[02:24] <CaptainMorgan> screw that
[02:24] <Toma-> ToR911: are you complaining because you cant install something?
[02:24] <HymnToLife> !ie
[02:24] <ubotflu> rumour has it, ie is Ubuntu Ireland #ubuntu-ie
[02:25] <ToR911> i mean, come on i want to isntall firefox, i have to work on it for 20 mins??
[02:25] <earldude1> !apache
[02:25] <ubotflu> from memory, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[02:25] <HymnToLife> not this, you stupid bot :/
[02:25] <HymnToLife> !msie
[02:25] <ubotflu> HymnToLife: Bugger all, i dunno
[02:25] <RiCON> meh
[02:25] <quacker> josh__, I've tried but it fails, no matter what version -- I think i't because it needs to register some *#$^ing COM++ object using code it can only obtain over t3h intarweb
[02:25] <josh__> Ophiocus: So I can use some other programs with wine that need IE. Im not going to use it :P
[02:25] <RiCON> the cd still gives the same error
[02:25] <josh__> ok
[02:25] <ToR911> why can't u have a simple install as root commandf
[02:25] <Toma-> ToR911: youre obviously not using apt-get.
[02:25] <Neurosis> can someone help me on this make error i get for Linpal?
[02:25] <ToR911> yeh tell me how i can in 2 commands install firefox 1.5
[02:25] <HymnToLife> josh__ > it is possible, search the forum I remember someone posted a howto about it
[02:25] <Goldfish> apt-get install firefox
[02:26] <earldude1> does using apt-get screw up synaptic in any way?
[02:26] <Toma-> are you in dire, desperate need of firefox 1.5?
[02:26] <Ophiocus> josh__,  it may be silly of me but, cant those programs be configured to use ff?
[02:26] <HymnToLife> earldude1 > no, it's the same thing
[02:26] <ToR911> gold fish: will that install firefox 1.5 ?
[02:26] <quacker> Goldfish, ubuntu doesn't support that version yet -- please read the questions
[02:26] <constantine-xvi> ToR911: download the binary from mozilla.org, untarball, and run the sh script
[02:26] <RiCON> HymnToLife, sorry to bother, the cd still gives the same error at the same exact place
[02:26] <constantine-xvi> Tor911: correction: mozilla.com
[02:26] <ToR911> i want to install it to all users, not just me
[02:26] <orkin\a> how come ubuntu makes my system run like an ancient machine, I expected much better performance form ubuntu
[02:27] <quacker>  ./configure; make; make install
[02:27] <constantine-xvi> ToR911: and then comes the making link to firefox in location of old firefox
[02:27] <HymnToLife> RiCON > the I don't know... maybe something wrong in your hardware
[02:27] <quacker> orkin\a, how much RAM have you got, etc?
[02:27] <earldude1> HymntoLife: why then doesn't php5 show up in my Breezy synaptic package manager?  I was able apt-get install it, but it wasn't in synaptic
[02:27] <Toma-> ToR911: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?
[02:27] <orkin\a> It's almosty intolerably slow to where it takes me ovfer a minute just to switch between towo apps
[02:27] <frogzoo> orkin\a: => 512meg ram?
[02:27] <Toma-> if you cant follow that within 5 mins, you must be doing something wrong
[02:28] <Toma-> and if you want it all in 2 commands, use &&
[02:28] <RiCON> HymnToLife, what if I try with the DVD version?
[02:28] <bimberi> josh__: http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html and http://frankscorner.org
[02:28] <Neurosis> can someone help me on this make error i get for Linpal?
[02:28] <orkin\a> it has a pentium four
[02:28] <Madz> !
[02:28] <ubotflu> Madz: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:28] <frogzoo> orkin\a: surely sounds like mad swapping to me
[02:28] <HymnToLife> RiCON > dunno, try it out
[02:28] <orkin\a> and sufficient ram to make windows run quickly
[02:28] <orkin\a> why cant it make linux run quickly?
[02:28] <Khisanth> even with a livecd and a p3 it isn't that slow :)
[02:28] <Madz> haloo
[02:28] <ToR911> toms, and u belive this answers my wishes for isntallation to be simple?
[02:28] <frogzoo> orkin\a: how much ram?
[02:28] <ToR911> 15 lines of commands to install one program
[02:28] <Toma-> ToR911: fine. http://kidsquid.com/programs/ubuntu/firefox-1.5.0-0nonfree1_i386.tar.gz
[02:28] <orkin\a> 256meg
[02:28] <quacker> earldude1, do yoiu hve multiverse and universe?  (installing packages directly from Debian repos is NOT RECOMMENDED -- did you manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list ?)
[02:29] <Madz> Hi!
[02:29] <Toma-> unpack, run and and itll install a pretty .deb file for you
[02:29] <earldude1> HymntoLife: if apt-get is the same as synaptic, why then doesn't php5 show up in my Breezy synaptic package manager?  I was able apt-get install it, but it wasn't in synaptic
[02:29] <Goldfish> Bleeding edge releases and have their risks and costs. If it isn't supported by the repositories yet at ubuntu, you have to take extra steps to get that version deployed.
[02:29] <Madz> Hi!
[02:29] <frogzoo> orkin\a: 512meg will make a difference - in your case, I think a great difference - 'top' will show the story
[02:29] <bulio_> dammit
[02:29] <bulio_> so no one can help me with router and DHCP?
[02:29] <benkong2> ubuntu and kubuntu got the same repos?
[02:29] <bimberi> benkong2: yes
[02:29] <HymnToLife> earldude1 > I don't have a damn clue. Still I know for sure they use the same sources.list file
[02:29] <bulio_> anyone?
[02:29] <Madz> hoy buang
[02:30] <Toma-> ToR911: the fact is, firefox 1.5 is still a short way off for breezy, because it still needs bug testing with all the ubuntu libs
[02:30] <earldude1> ok cool, good enough
[02:30] <benkong2> ok saw a post on google about kubuntu repo for kde 3.5
[02:30] <umberleigh> hey. how do i check what programs have a file open and release those file handles? something on my machine is using /dev/sequencer but i don't know what
[02:30] <orkin\a> there is no way ubuntu was meant to only be fast with 5*meg ram
[02:30] <ToR911> it amazes me that people that are a bit pro with linux, think that typing about 10 commands to install one program is normal
[02:30] <frogzoo> umberleigh: fuser    -k option to kill
[02:30] <orkin\a> give me a break it was made to be speedy with 256 topo
[02:30] <ToR911> toma, is 1.4 stable with ubuntu?
[02:30] <orkin\a> but mine isn't
[02:30] <constantine-xvi> benkong2: check the kubuntu.org page
[02:30] <Toma-> ToR911: no idea
[02:30] <umberleigh> frogzoo: thanks
[02:30] <earldude1> I only have TI-994A with 16k of ram and ubuntu works great on it.
[02:30] <bimberi> !kde3.5
[02:30] <ubotflu> rumour has it, kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[02:30] <Madz> Hi! dEmon
[02:30] <HymnToLife> orkin\a > did you enable a swap space ?
[02:30] <quacker> earldude1, that's just ot possible -- unless you manually edited source.list  -- perhaps you should look again.  Maybe you made a typo when searching or looked in the wrong section?
[02:30] <Toma-> ToR911: i ran 1.5 for a while but its kinda crap so i went back
[02:31] <orkin\a> swap space?
[02:31] <HymnToLife> lmao
[02:31] <Mads> ss
[02:31] <Mads> buang ka
[02:31] <ToR911> to 1.0.7?
[02:31] <earldude1> quaker: that's possible that I did overlook it... I'm fairly new to it.
[02:31] <HymnToLife> !swap
[02:31] <ubotflu> [swap]  used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[02:31] <nickrud> earldude1, I got one in the closet, thanks for the tip!
[02:31] <Toma-> ToR911: yep
[02:31] <Goldfish> I found php5 in synaptic. Were you searching my Name or some other criteria?
[02:31] <Mads> crazy!
[02:31] <Toma-> if it aint broke, why fix it :)
[02:31] <orkin\a> I just installed this though
[02:31] <Mads> dio
[02:31] <ToR911> i consider it broke
[02:31] <earldude1> I actually threw my ti99 in the garbage back in college.  I wish I hadn't now
[02:31] <quacker> orkin\a, don't get defensicve please.  It was a simple question.  And no Breezy is not necessarily going to be speedy with 256 MB (128 is actually the minimum requirement just to install).
[02:31] <orkin\a> and i havent had it update all those updates
[02:31] <Madz> buang
[02:31] <MasterTsunami> because it has significant upgrades :/
[02:32] <Zugwrack> Ok when I run the update manager it keeps erroring on lilypond-data_2.6.3-9~breezy1_all.deb
[02:32] <frogzoo> !tell orkin\a about swap
[02:32] <Zugwrack> Anyone have a clue why?
[02:32] <Neurosis> can someone help me on this make error i get for Linpal?
[02:32] <Hobbsee> Neurosis:  what error?
[02:33] <ToR911> btw, what does the ubutu server version have in it?
[02:33] <Toma-> MasterTsunami: also, if you google firefox 1.5, the top news on it is that is has a DoS exploit
[02:33] <frogzoo> Zugwrack: is the repo available?
[02:33] <quacker> orkin\a, one thing you can always do is get rid of all the 'fluff' and goto a minimal windows manager like xcfe or even fluxbox.
[02:33] <Neurosis> Hobbsee , channel flood i can paste it to you.
[02:33] <nalioth> Neurosis: can you pastebin it please and bring us the URL ?
[02:33] <mrkoje> Toma-, it's not a DoS explot
[02:33] <MasterTsunami> err that's every firefox, and it's not a DoS exploit :/
[02:33] <Zugwrack> frogzoo: Yep I have enabled all the repos using synaptic
[02:33] <HymnToLife> ToR911 > the same as the desktop one, minus the GUI
[02:33] <Hobbsee> Neurosis: yes, use teh pastebin :)
[02:33] <Toma-> meh.
[02:33] <ToR911> no GUI at all?
[02:33] <Neurosis> ok, ill go get a url
[02:33] <butcherbird> could someone using  nvidia-glx or -legacy paste your xorg.conf please.  Just apt-get'd everything and 'nvidia-glx-config enable' and its not working..(breezy)
[02:33] <mrkoje> Toma-,  it eats system resources.... not a DoS though...
[02:33] <Neurosis> brb
[02:34] <frogzoo> Zugwrack: point is, maybe the repo is down?
[02:34] <quacker> orkin\a, what CPU and what other hardware (integrated video chipset, or Intel wifi by any chance?)
[02:34] <benplaut> Zugwrack: are you in hawaii?
[02:34] <josh__> bye all :)
[02:34] <Zugwrack> frogzoo: For two days? I haven't seen anything about repos down
[02:34] <Goldfish> ubotflu tell me about java
[02:34] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> What's the default root password in Ubuntu?
[02:34] <Zugwrack> benplaut: No sir..Texas
[02:34] <HymnToLife> ToR911 > nope
[02:34] <HymnToLife> !server
[02:34] <benplaut> ah
[02:34] <ubotflu> Ubuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[02:34] <ToR911> hymtolife, console only?
[02:34] <ToR911> damn
[02:34] <benplaut> ubotflu tell JoeyDay|ubuntu about sudo
[02:34] <frogzoo> Goldfish: just /msg ubotflu qstn
[02:35] <mak> hi
[02:35] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> Is there a default root password? I don't recall setting one up during install.
[02:35] <Goldfish> I can't. My nick isn't registered so it won't let me send private msgs.
[02:35] <benplaut> JoeyDay|ubuntu: look at what ubotflu just PMed you
[02:35] <nalioth> JoeyDay|ubuntu: read your PM
[02:35] <ToR911> benplaut, tell me too about sudo
[02:35] <frogzoo> JoeyDay|ubuntu: use sudo
[02:35] <nalioth> ubotflu: tell Goldfish about register
[02:35] <Zugwrack> JoeyDay: It uses sudo f
[02:35] <mak> i need some help with xorg and resources
[02:35] <benplaut> ubotflu tell ToR911 about sudo
[02:35] <Zugwrack> *sudo*
[02:35] <ToR911> ty
[02:35] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> Zugwrack: So there isn't a root password at all?
[02:35] <HymnToLife> Goldfish > then... register it
[02:35] <Neurosis> Here is the paste bin link - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d5727
[02:35] <mak> anybody can help me?
[02:36] <Toma-> mak just ask
[02:36] <HymnToLife> JoeyDay|ubuntu > you can set one
[02:36] <nalioth> mak: if you ask us a question, probably
[02:36] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> HymnToLife: How?
[02:36] <HymnToLife> but you won't need it anyway
[02:36] <Zugwrack> JoeyDay: It uses your username password and passes it to sudo
[02:36] <HymnToLife> JoeyDay|ubuntu > sudo chpasswd root
[02:36] <butcherbird> JoeyDay|ubuntu, root is disabled, use "sudo command" or type "sudo -i" for a root term
[02:36] <mak> when i move a window, the cpu usage goes up to 100%
[02:36] <Zugwrack> so if I want  to run apt I would type: sudo apt-get <fileinstall> then it will ask for your password and then run
[02:36] <nalioth> JoeyDay|ubuntu: read the link ubotflu sent you please
[02:36] <frogzoo> Zugwrack: pastebin the error - have you checked /var/log/messages? full disk? df -k ?
[02:37] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> nalioth: I did.
[02:37] <nalioth> Zugwrack: sudo apt-get install $PKGNAME
[02:37] <Toma-> mak: have you got composite extensions enabled or something?
[02:37] <Zugwrack> frogzoo: don't know when you came in..  You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:38] <mak> what are composite extensions?
[02:38] <mak> i've installed nvidia drivers
[02:38] <Zugwrack> frogzoo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5728
[02:39] <DjLinX> i installed proftpd and when i type it into a brower i get "Access to the port number has been disabled for security reasons."  I'm new to linux, and I am trying to run Kubuntu off of a CD on my mac. How do I do that? I apologize if I have aggravated anyone.
[02:40] <GTroy> hello guys
[02:40] <marky> how do i run network-manager guys? anyone know?
[02:40] <mak> what does forking means?
[02:40] <Neurosis> Can someone help me with this make error for Linpal? - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d5727
[02:40] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> Do you guys know much about apt-get packages? I'm trying to install a DynDNS client called ez-ipupdate so I can VNC into my Ubuntu machine.
[02:40] <mak> 3d apps runs ok
[02:40] <JoeyDay|ubuntu> But apt-get says it can't find the package.
[02:40] <mak> but 2d things not so well
[02:40] <Toma-> mak: sorry, i ment working :S
[02:40] <butcherbird> sudo network-admin, that what u wanted?
[02:40] <bulio_> how do I kill a pppoe conneciton?
[02:40] <mak> yes, they are
[02:41] <Goldfish> marky: Go to System -> Preferences -> Sessions, and pick Startup Programs. Then enter a new command line for sudo /usr/bin/nm-applet &
[02:41] <Toma-> mak: can you put your xorg.conf up on a pastebin?
[02:41] <bimberi> bulio_: poff ?
[02:41] <GTroy> where would I find the folder for firefox's public_html, or similar?
[02:41] <ZeroIRC> Hello
[02:41] <Goldfish> marky: I just got that cooking last night.
[02:41] <mak> ok, give me a minute
[02:41] <Toma-> GTroy: public_html?
[02:41] <bulio_> more than one pppd running
[02:41] <somedude> i heard ubuntu was the king of the distro and there are none higher sucka distro should call it sire
[02:42] <somedude> or something like that
[02:42] <marky> goldfish hold on yhrn i'll try it
[02:42] <Zugwrack> nalioth: See my pastebin error: 5729
[02:42] <CaptainMorgan> working in a terminal... I get used to have .c files that were colored back.. since installation of the backup data they're now green - the color of .exe... how can I change them to black ?
[02:42] <GTroy> place where firefox can access this app
[02:42] <GTroy> does that make sense Toma-
[02:42] <Toma-> GTroy: not really :D
[02:42] <GTroy> hmm
[02:42] <nalioth> Neurosis: you seem to have dodgy code
[02:42] <GTroy> I'll past in flood
[02:42] <mrplant> LOL
[02:42] <mrplant> I've just read
[02:42] <GTroy> paste
[02:43] <mrplant> Windows' history
[02:43] <Neurosis> what can i do to help it?
[02:43] <Toma-> somedude: if thats what you want to think, sure.
[02:43] <mrplant> here it is:
[02:43] <mrplant> "It compiles, let's ship it!"
[02:43] <Zugwrack> nalioth: While I am at it I am guessing that command retrieved the variable information from the cache when it tried to install lilypond-data?
[02:43] <Toma-> GTroy: cool.
[02:43] <nalioth> Zugwrack: sudo apt-get -f install"
[02:43] <nickrud> CaptainMorgan, tak a look at them with ls -l ; if the execute bit is set (an x in permissions) chmod -x *.c will fix it
[02:43] <kevinix> hi, why is it that i can play any dvd's on gxine and xine, but totem and vlc just lock up?
[02:43] <ZeroIRC> Can someone please help me.  I want to make my self owner, and I did this before with someones help, but I forgot how.
[02:43] <Zugwrack> nalioth: Ok thanks for the help :-)
[02:44] <ElitePete> how do i get alsamixer to save my settings?
[02:44] <ElitePete> everytime i reboot i have to adjust it.
[02:44] <marky> goldfish got asfar as sessions and startup programs ~~> add ? then what do i put in there?
[02:44] <nalioth> Zugwrack: i've not given you any help yet.
[02:44] <sklav> hi guys
[02:44] <nickrud> ZeroIRC, sudo chmod <user>:<user> <file> will make you the owner
[02:44] <Zugwrack> nalioth: Now it says it can't find the file
[02:44] <sklav> im having an issue migrating my ubuntu drive to another pc
[02:44] <ZeroIRC> nickrud, thanks
[02:44] <ElitePete> can anyone tell me why alsamixer isn't saving my settings?
[02:44] <sklav> i have setup the fstab accordingly
[02:44] <CaptainMorgan> ha.. that's beautiful nickrud - thanks
[02:45] <sklav> but grub doesnt want to install
[02:45] <Zugwrack> nalioth: Ok then for the moral support...
[02:45] <Goldfish> marky: Type in "sudo /usr/bin/nm-applet &"  That is so it launches at start up. First, use a terminal and verify the command works.
[02:45] <senectus> hey does anyone know if there is a text mode browser that supports frames?
[02:45] <sklav> how can i have grub-install its mbr on the primary slave?
[02:45] <Toma-> ElitePete: make sure /etc/init.d/alsa-utils is getting run at shutdown.. use update-rc.d to do that, or a boot process manager like bum
[02:45] <sklav> senectus, its called links
[02:46] <nalioth> senectus: links2
[02:46] <sklav> anybody familiar with grub?
[02:46] <mak> i need help with xorg, it uses up to 100% cpu when i move windows
[02:46] <ElitePete> Toma-, so type update-rc.d
[02:46] <senectus> sklav, excellent that works a treat thanks :-)
[02:46] <ElitePete> at terminal?
[02:46] <GTroy> Toma- would I use firefox's extensions folder, or the plugins folder? or wrong with both
[02:46] <sklav> np
[02:46] <mak> please someone help me
[02:46] <Toma-> ElitePete: not quite
[02:46] <tomodachi> but grub doesnt want to close Ubuntu if that works, start up at gmail.. i hope you get same results
[02:46] <kevinix> also, how do i make xine my default DVD player? the 'preferred applications
[02:46] <tomodachi> Ok then for the directions to access UBUNTU"
[02:46] <kevinix> .. doesn't offer a chance to change this
[02:46] <Zugwrack> nalioth: It appears that file is failing when trying to unpack...so it could be corrupted somehow?
[02:46] <Toma-> GTroy: whats the outcome you want?
[02:46] <sklav> how does one install on the mbr of the hdb?
[02:47] <tomodachi> how can i save a new pass, is that correct?
[02:47] <senectus> nalioth, oh.. is there a diff between links and links2 in the ubuntu repository?
[02:47] <sklav> i want to move this drive to another dedicated pc
[02:47] <tomodachi> its called having two exams back to school with a different name
[02:47] <GTroy> Toma- to run a script
[02:47] <ElitePete> toma-, i'm new to ubuntu can you make it more clear?
[02:47] <nalioth> senectus: i believe there may be
[02:47] <tomodachi> It appears in the config get acquired) what I was answering sipher
[02:47] <Toma-> GTroy: you want firefox to run a script?
[02:47] <tomodachi> whats the problem was, directory handles and file handles both have their data.
[02:47] <tomodachi> oh.. is there a really killer gnome desktop?
[02:47] <nalioth> Zugwrack: that is a possiblity
[02:47] <GTroy> Toma-yep
[02:47] <tomodachi> Toma- to run it, it doesnt find it
[02:47] <tomodachi> i'm new to C++, so I'm probably programming very sloppily
[02:47] <Arafangion> My laptop crashes whenever I open the screen (ie, get out of standby) while the battery is almost-but-not-quite-flat.
[02:47] <tomodachi> GTroy should have it good.
[02:47] <nalioth> Zugwrack: join #kubuntu-offtopic and we'll see about getting you sorted
[02:47] <tomodachi> My laptop would come from mediawiki itself.
[02:47] <Arafangion> Is it possible to just get the standby to not resume in that situation?
[02:48] <Toma-> ElitePete: 'update-rc.d alsa-utils defaults'
[02:48] <Arafangion> tomodachi: I would advise you to join #c++ (or ##C++ or whatever)
[02:48] <senectus> nalioth, ok thanks mate
[02:48] <ElitePete> Toma-, could you possibly explain it more newby mode for me?
[02:48] <ElitePete> k.
[02:48] <mak> Toma- do i send you the xorg.conf??
[02:48] <tomodachi> could you explain that I would assume that is prolly opened as a squence overlay the glow
[02:48] <Toma-> ElitePete: also, run that as sudo
[02:48] <tomodachi> Toma- do i view?
[02:48] <ElitePete> ck
[02:48] <ElitePete> k.
[02:48] <Toma-> mak: put it on a pastebin
[02:48] <marky> goldfish do i have to restart for that to work?
[02:48] <Toma-> ~pastebin
[02:48] <tomodachi> put it there
[02:48] <Toma-> !pastebin
[02:48] <ubotflu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:48] <tomodachi> pastebin is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own laptop or desktop on ubuntu?
[02:48] <Toma-> tomodachi: what?
[02:48] <tomodachi> what are you doing
[02:48] <ElitePete> Toma-, it tells me System startup links for /etc/init.d/alsa-utils already exist.
[02:49] <Goldfish> marky: The sudo command can be run from a terminal in your current session. Putting in the "Sessions" prevents you from having to type that same command every time you login again.
[02:49] <Toma-> ElitePete: ok. so thats working...
[02:49] <tomodachi> ok. so I just don't remember the way from arizona!
[02:49] <kevinix> does anyone else manage to have totem playing back DVD's?
[02:49] <frogzoo> Zugwrack: try sudo apt-get build-dep lilypond
[02:49] <ElitePete> Toma- my problem is i need to set my mic to the proper setting each time i reboot (using alsamixer)
[02:49] <kevinix> only xine/gxine/mplayer work here
[02:49] <Toma-> GTroy: i have no idea sorry :(
[02:49] <tomodachi> Toma- my problem is
[02:49] <marky> goldfish so " network-manager" in terminal will now work?
[02:49] <tomodachi> goldfish so you suggest cvs to it?
[02:49] <_jason|soup> kevinix, how about totem-xine?
[02:49] <frogzoo> Zugwrack: which version of lilypond u running?
[02:50] <ZeroIRC> nickrud, I tried what you said, and it said { chmod: invalid mode string: `zeroirc:zeroirc' }
[02:50] <tomodachi> I tried
[02:50] <Toma-> ElitePete: so its just the mic thats not getting set?
[02:50] <kevinix> _jason|soup i'll check
[02:50] <tomodachi> so its not links2 -g?
[02:50] <mak> Toma-: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5730
[02:50] <Toma-> tomodachi: are you a bot?
[02:50] <pirx> hi! is there something i need to do to be able to record from alsa devices (with mencoder for instance) in ubuntu?
[02:50] <ElitePete> yep toma
[02:50] <tomodachi> dunno
[02:50] <mak> Toma-: there it is
[02:50] <Goldfish> tomodachi: cvs? What are you talking about?
[02:50] <tomodachi> you best check yo'self!
[02:50] <frogzoo> Zugwrack: common problem - read this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80901
[02:50] <ElitePete> it always defaults to "mic"
[02:50] <nickrud> ZeroIRC, I assume that's the user on the machine?
[02:50] <ElitePete> but it needs to be "front mic"
[02:50] <tomodachi> it always did stand for Tuvalu in the mean time, how do you need?
[02:50] <tomodachi> I assume you're not really caring that much
[02:50] <tomodachi> but it complains of missing depends
[02:50] <ZeroIRC> nickrud,  yea
[02:50] <Goldfish> marky: That is how I ran it. It will verify if you got it loaded.
[02:50] <tomodachi> That is what I am there ... =(
[02:50] <benplaut> Toma-: i think it is
[02:50] <tomodachi> i think iam gonna redesign your site, heh
[02:50] <benplaut> Toma-: it was a few days ago, anyway
[02:50] <butcherbird> i just apt-get'd  nvidia-glx-legacy and associated packages but it didnt update my xorg.conf the way the wiki seems to say it will and shouldnt lsmod show a glx module running now?
[02:51] <tomodachi> i just apt-got mercury, its installed, appearantly, but when I ask waht the difference between "edit" and "create"
[02:51] <marky> i'll restart and see if i spot anything diferent  , brb
[02:51] <tomodachi> it was still standing up a TCP Socket
[02:51] <tomodachi> i'll restart my machine, and it
[02:51] <nickrud> *blush ZeroIRC it's chown not chmod, the command
[02:51] <Toma-> Seveas: can you please ban tomodachi?
[02:51] <ZeroIRC> oh, thanks nickrud
[02:51] <nickrud> ZeroIRC, I'd just done a chmod question, the fingers failed me :)
[02:51] <tomodachi> I'd just ignore the BIG family started screaming really loud. i didnt during installation?
[02:51] <tomodachi> I'd just ignore the BIG family started screaming really loud. i didnt during installation?
[02:51] <nickrud> !test
[02:51] <ubotflu> Passed.
[02:51] <mak> Toma-: have u any idea?, thanks for reading
[02:51] <ZeroIRC> nickrud, I've had it happen many times
[02:51] <tomodachi> I've had better UL with bitcomet
[02:51] <sklav> hey can someone tell me why this is happening
[02:51] <tomodachi> have u checked mime-types ?
[02:51] <Toma-> mak still reading
[02:52] <tomodachi> hey can i add packages to what are you making it look like
[02:52] <Arafangion> tomodachi: Ask *ONE* question at a time, and stay on topic.
[02:52] <sklav> ex: grub-install /dev/hdb1
[02:52] <sklav> -- /dev/hdb1 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[02:52] <ElitePete> tomodachi stfu
[02:52] <Toma-> Arafangion: its a bot
[02:52] <tomodachi> its a shame to me man
[02:52] <nickrud> i think so
[02:52] <tomodachi> i think appending will work
[02:52] <eobanb_> tomodachi is a bot?
[02:52] <tomodachi> no clue
[02:52] <sklav> but ubuntu is installed and running on hdb1
[02:52] <Arafangion> Toma-: Does appear to be a bot.
[02:52] <ElitePete> Toma-, sorry to bug you but any ideas on my problem? it's easy to fix ... but tedious
[02:52] <tomodachi> Does appear to be annoyed if all you need to unsubscribe from the CD first and last block of 106 files?
[02:52] <nickrud> nalioth, I think we have a stray bot here
[02:52] <tomodachi> sorry to keep track of upload/download ratios as well