[00:00] <arooni> would love some insight on my issue
[00:00] <arooni> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1176711/ubuntu-18-04-google-chrome-crashes-when-gnome-shell-extensions-are-loaded
[00:00] <tomreyn> does it happen with chromium-browser, too?
[00:00] <arooni> oooh good question
[00:01] <arooni> downloading it now
[00:01] <sarnold> arooni: is it *one* specific extension you need to disable? several? all? try narrowing down if it's one or any etc
[00:02] <arooni> sarnold: i know if i disable all of them it works fine
[00:02] <sarnold> so try re-enabling the first half, see what happens..
[00:03] <tomreyn> gnome-shell bisecting?
[00:03] <sarnold> bingo :)
[00:03] <arooni> i
[00:03] <arooni> yes thats the right way tod o it its just annoying that it crashes gnome-shell each time
[00:03] <arooni> makes me want to install 19.04
[00:03] <arooni> but likely would have the same iiiiiiiissue
[00:03] <arooni> doesnt seem to happen in chromium-browser
[00:04] <arooni> still get "[23543:23543:0925/190337.481493:ERROR:buffer_manager.cc(488)] [.DisplayCompositor]GL ERROR :GL_INVALID_OPERATION : glBufferData: <- error from previous GL com"
[00:04] <arooni> but it launches at least
[01:19] <hackatheos_> ^ what just happened
[01:20] <lotuspsychje> hackatheos_: what are you talking about?
[01:21] <hackatheos_> According to my client tons of people just quit all at once
[01:22] <lotuspsychje> hackatheos_: well lets not discuss that here :p
[01:22] <OerHeks> !netsplit
[01:22] <OerHeks> thank you for flying #freenode
[01:22] <sarnold> hackatheos_: according to mine it's been pretty gradual https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GvNt6Bc2SQ/
[01:23] <sarnold> maybe irccloud is having a sad and bursted a ton of data all at once
[01:23] <hackatheos_> Pribobly
[01:26] <NyteRukh> hello
[01:27] <lotuspsychje> welcome NyteRukh
[01:28] <NyteRukh> hows it going this evening
[01:29] <lotuspsychje> all good NyteRukh how can we help you?
[01:29] <NyteRukh> is there a ubuntu supported alternative to virtualbox
[01:29] <lotuspsychje> yes, gnome boxes
[01:30] <lotuspsychje> !info gnome-boxes
[01:30] <NyteRukh> cool
[01:30] <lotuspsychje> NyteRukh: its pretty fast and simple in use
[01:30] <NyteRukh> !info gnome-boxes
[01:30] <NyteRukh> nice cant get virtual box to work right lol
[01:36] <NyteRukh> thanks for the help lotuspsychje
[01:36] <lotuspsychje> NyteRukh: if you are using 18.04 there might be a known gnome boxes bug you need to workaround
[01:36] <lotuspsychje> NyteRukh: let me know if it works by default or not
[01:36] <NyteRukh> ok yes running ubuntu 18/04 with cinnamon desktop
[01:37] <NyteRukh> alrighty
[01:41] <NyteRukh> seems my bios doesnt support or not enabled the virtualizations extensions
[01:41] <NyteRukh> not even sure what to look for in the bios
[01:42] <tomreyn> NyteRukh: "(Intel) VT-x" or "AMD-V"
[01:43] <tomreyn> depends on which cpu brand you have
[01:43] <NyteRukh> mmm running on hp pavilion 23 all in one
[01:43] <leftyfb> NyteRukh: in a terminal type: kvm-ok
[01:44] <NyteRukh>  /dev/kvm does not exist
[01:44] <NyteRukh> hint: sudo modprobe kvm-intel
[01:45] <lotuspsychje> NyteRukh: the 18.04 bug is you need to add your user to kvm
[01:45] <NyteRukh> ok
[01:46] <NyteRukh> next time i boot ill go looking in the bios
[01:49] <mmx_in_space> anyone know how to enable typical networking/internet access from QEMU
[01:50] <mmx_in_space> what would it look like at the command line?
[01:51] <qrf> https://www.linuxtechi.com/install-configure-kvm-ubuntu-18-04-server/
[01:52] <qrf> that might help you
[01:54] <mmx_in_space> this is windows host by the way
[01:54] <mmx_in_space> ubuntu guest
[01:59] <tomreyn> mmx_in_space: so, since qemu runs on the (windows) host, and that's where you'd need to configure networking (also in the ubuntu VM, but there it'll be the same as always), this is not really a topic for this channel. maybe try #qemu or ##windows.
[02:25] <HNIC> So I am messing around with the most current version of Wine source code to build. I am on U v18. I am trying to build to include as many features as possible. It tells me the OSS version I have is too old , thus no sound for Wine. I download the source code, build, and install. Now I am not getting sound (unless I run the OSS test), Looking in settings, I see I only now have a Dummy Output.
[02:25] <HNIC> Suggestions on resolving that?
[02:27] <HNIC> i see i have two audio devices.  0:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio [8086:3b56] (rev 05)
[02:27] <HNIC> and,.,,, 01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation High Definition Audio Controller [10de:0be3] (rev a1)     Subsystem: Dell Latitude E6510 [1028:040b]
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> HNIC: wich version of wine is that?
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> !info wine bionic
[02:31] <HNIC> lotuspsychje: 4.16
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> HNIC: think you better might ask in the wine chanel, we try to focus support on ubuntu official repo versions of wine
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> !wine | HNIC
[02:32] <HNIC> Well, I am dealing with a sound issue in Ubuntu , not a Wine issue
[02:33] <HNIC> because I am trying the newest version of OSS
[02:34] <HNIC> http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi
[02:37] <HNIC> as mentioned, settings in Ubuntu is now showing "Dummy Output"
[02:43] <r4u1> /quit
[02:50] <amosbird> Hi, what command can I use to replace this
[02:50] <amosbird> deb [trusted=yes] http://my.server.local/ ./
[02:50] <amosbird> I don't have deb tool
[02:56] <HNIC> amosbird: a text editor?
[02:58] <amosbird> E: The repository 'http://<IP_ADDRESS>:33992 ./ Release' does not have a Release file.
[02:58] <amosbird> dpkg-scanpackage doesn't generate a Release file
[02:59] <amosbird> how can it be used as a repo?
[03:16] <OerHeks> amosbird, interesting, are you hosting your own repo?
[03:23] <jwash> what's the best way to isolate a user from my local network but not the internet
[03:31] <ponyrider> jwash: samba has an invalid user option, so you could set: invalid users = john in the cfg
[03:33] <jwash> ponyrider: great idea
[04:37] <amosbird> is it possible to apt update only one repo?
[05:11] <TechnicalFowl> anyone know why i cant append a directory to my PATH variable?   the first directory in my PATH is "/home/myself/.local/bin" im trying to make it be at the end of PATH, not at the beginning. i went into .profile and changed it to the following: PATH="$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin"
[05:12] <TechnicalFowl> i did PATH=$(getconf PATH)   in the terminal to reset PATH, then when i reopen the terminal, i get that damn .local/bin prepended, wheni want it appended
[05:31] <urgodfather> hello room, i am banging my head on a mysql issue. It absolutely refuses to allow remote connections
[07:27] <cluelessperson> When I open links in ubuntu, it causes my browser to crash
[07:27] <cluelessperson> firefox, or chrome
[08:06] <jweiquan> clera
[08:06] <jweiquan> clear
[08:22] <_oops> hello anyone?
[08:23] <allant> Hi
[08:42] <vetr> hi
[08:56] <tiox> MATE desktop, Mint themes. Why is it that some icons are oversized while in Linux Mint they look correct with the same theme packages installed?
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> tiox: you can try the #ubuntu-mate channel if you like
[08:57] <tiox> Yeah but that's less active, with less users and they're all probably asleep. Guess I could try.
[09:20] <export> tiox: or maybe the mint channels.
[09:28] <humpled> mint channels are mainly on spotchat right?
[09:28] <export> humpled: yes
[09:32] <export> Linuxmint official support channels are #linuxmint-help on Spotchat and #linuxmint-chat for non-support conversation, see irc.spotchat.org, ssl is supported on 6697
[10:29] <Norux> Hi I have an Acer Aspire ES 11 Notebook and installed Ubuntu 18.04 minimal installation on it. When I boot with secure boot mode off, I get "no bootable device found". I have to turn secure boot on and select the `grub64.efi` as trusted in order to successfully boot.
[10:32] <vlt> Hello. In "less", how can I jump downward N lines (like <N>j) but without scrolling?
[10:32] <jeremy31> Norux: you may need to set a BIOS password and use custom EFI file
[10:33] <humpled> that works for me vlt
[10:34] <Norux> vlt: for me too
[10:34] <vlt> humpled: But it scrolls, doesn't it?
[10:34] <vlt> I'd like to *jump*.
[10:35] <Norux> jeremy31: I set a bios password, and what do you mean by use custom EFI file?
[10:35] <jeremy31> Norux: I just know that some require you to set a custom EFI file or to trust and EFI file in BIOS before it will use it
[10:36] <vlt> humpled, Norux: Got it. It seems to be z (and y for backwards).
[10:37] <jeremy31> Norux: https://askubuntu.com/a/653202/300665
[10:44] <vlt> Or rather SPACE and y. Using z changes N permanently.
[10:45] <mohnish01> Is it just me, or, is Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is really buggy?
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> mohnish01: we cant generalize things like that
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> mohnish01: do you have a specific issue you want to ask?
[10:46] <vlt> mohnish01: Showstopper for me was missing pdftk.
[10:46] <mohnish01> It's hard to say, I mean...
[10:46] <mohnish01> booting up takes up ages after changing the graphics card
[10:47] <vlt> mohnish01: How often do you change it? o_O
[10:47] <mohnish01> Some softwares don't even wanna run
[10:47] <mohnish01> I only changed it once
[10:47] <vlt> mohnish01: For example?
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> mohnish01: wich chipset & wich driver version?
[10:48] <mohnish01> Its nvidia GeForce 210
[10:48] <mohnish01> Idk the driver version though
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> mohnish01: what about your other system specs?
[10:49] <mohnish01> Core 2 Quad 2.67 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 1 GB vram
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> mohnish01: i think you better choose a lightweight flavour of ubuntu, lubuntu/xubuntu
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> !flavours | mohnish01
[10:50] <mohnish01> I am using xubuntu :)
[10:51] <mohnish01> I knew I had to pick a different flavor with specs like that
[10:51] <Norux> jeremy31: Yeah I know that, but I was wondering if there is an option with secure boot disabled
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> mohnish01: you should mention that next time in your original question
[10:51] <mohnish01> Um, sorry
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> mohnish01: so, if xubuntu doesnt run well, you could try lubuntu perhaps? or lubuntu 16.04
[10:52] <mohnish01> Yeah, I might
[10:52] <mohnish01> I'll put it on download soon
[10:56] <vlt> mohnish01: And what software "doesn't even want to run"?
[10:56] <mohnish01> Openarena
[10:56] <mohnish01> higan
[10:56] <mohnish01> unetbootin
[10:56] <mohnish01> openarena crashes when I try to join a game
[10:57] <mohnish01> unetbootin doesn't even start
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> mohnish01: i dont think your graphics card can handle openarena
[10:57] <mohnish01> higan opens for 2 seconds and crashes
[10:58] <mohnish01> Seriously? I can play openarena perfectly fine in my other distro
[10:58] <mohnish01> same pc
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> mohnish01: wich distro would that be
[10:58] <mohnish01> debian
[10:59] <mohnish01> I gtg right now, bye
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> mohnish01: can you pastebin: sudo lshw -C video && uname -a && lsb_release -a plz
[10:59] <mohnish01> I'm sorry, I have to go now
[10:59] <mohnish01> Later maybe
[11:00] <humpled> :v
[11:04] <TomyWork> i just froze my system by clicking suspend (in kubuntu 18.04) and trying to abort it by hammering the ctrl key
[11:04] <TomyWork> I don't believe that's behaviour I should reasonably expect :)
[11:32] <olx> Hi, if the asmedia B550 will be there, what about the support by the linux kernel. I would assume that there are some work to be run out of the box, isn't it?
[11:37] <Meufib> ls
[11:38] <Meufib> less acc4less \$ls -l |grep app
[11:38] <Meufib> exit
[11:50] <palo-alto> hello
[11:51] <palo-alto> no is here
[11:56] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:10] <ericus> TJ- you here?
[12:13] <ericus> tomreyn?
[12:13] <BluesKaj> ericus, just ask your question
[12:14] <ericus> In this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019
[12:15] <ericus> If I already have a Windows installation is it still gonna be /dev/sda or /dev/sda5 (the left over space)?
[12:15] <ericus> Under the pre-prepare encrypted partitions section
[12:16] <ericus> So export DEV sda or sda5?
[12:19] <Meufib> ericus: that guide assumes an empty drive
[12:19] <ericus> Thats what I feared. But it also mentions dual boot
[12:19] <Meufib> ericus: I dont know if it is possible to use luks to encrypt just a single parttition
[12:20] <Meufib> ericus, i dont see any mention of dual booting in that guide
[12:21] <ericus> It mentions installing alongside Windows
[12:23] <Meufib> ericus: According to the first hits on Google it should be possible.
[12:24] <tomreyn> ericus: DEV is still the full disk, but read the paragraph following that, too, as well as the further notes later on regarding how to handle existing paritions.
[12:24] <Meufib> ericus: Atleast it is not /dev/sda, this is the entire drive. ;)
[12:25] <tomreyn> yes, it's possible to use block layer device encryption such as dmcrypt-luks to encrypt just a partition (or a LVM2 logical volume)
[12:26] <Meufib> Since this drive already is partitioned you can skip creating the gpt table.
[12:26] <Meufib> You can go straight to the gparted section and create the new partitions
[12:28] <baako> hi guys, can i ask ubuntu desktop related question here?
[12:28] <baako> i need a add a custom printer setting for one of my 3 printers
[12:28] <ericus> The sgdisk part Meufib?
[12:29] <tomreyn> baako: sure, this is the ubuntu support channel, so if you have questions about your ubuntu installation it's a good place.
[12:30] <Meufib> ericus: I would recommend using the graphical gparted tool
[12:30] <baako> I have a ubuntu 18.04 desktop. I just got one of those printers which is used to printer those small shipping labels
[12:30] <baako> i need to ask the setting for it
[12:31] <mouses> baako: have you tried entered the model number of your printer and the word 'ubuntu' into a search engine?
[12:31] <mouses> s/entered/entering
[12:32] <ericus> What about my existing EFI partition?
[12:33] <tomreyn> keep it
[12:33] <Meufib> ericus: using gparted you can shrink the existing partition and create the two new ones. You can then skip ahead to the "LUKS encrypt" part
[12:34] <ericus> The bios_boot, do I need that?
[12:34] <ericus> So just a /boot and /?
[12:34] <Meufib> ericus: Dont remove any of the existing partitions, just make some free space for the new partitions.
[12:34] <ericus> I got free space but not sure how to partition it
[12:35] <Meufib> ericus: The existing partitions contain part of the uefi/bios and in most cases recovery images for your laptop.
[12:35] <Meufib> ericus: let me rephrase, you need unpartitioned space.
[12:35] <ericus> I have 200GB unpartitioned
[12:36] <Skyrider> Greetings everyone
[12:36] <tomreyn> ericus: this posts your current partition layout to https://termbin.com, a website similar to https://paste.ubuntu.com, and returns a URL for easy copy and paste here:  sudo sgdisk --print /dev/sda 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:36] <ericus> So which new partitions should I create?
[12:36] <Meufib> ericus: you should be able to "right click" the free space in the bar graph and get the option to create a new partition
[12:36] <Meufib> ericus: Id recommend sticking with the manual, soa a '/' and '/boot/'
[12:37] <ericus> I'll go for boot and root then
[12:37] <Skyrider> I'm trying to set up keys to for login into specific users on the system. I created the files but whenever I attempt to login, I'm getting "No supported authentication methods available (server sent: publickey)"RSA auth is set to yes in sshd config, so is pukey and auth key file location is set to a custom directory in /etc/ssh/keys/user
[12:38] <geirha> you've added the public keys to ~/.ssh/authroized_keys?
[12:39] <geirha> err, ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[12:39] <Skyrider> Does the directory matter?
[12:39] <Skyrider> I assume as long the files are there, it should work.
[12:40] <Skyrider> The /etc/ssh/keys/user directory contains 2 files. One without extension (private) and one with .pub (public).
[12:41] <mgedmin> I think sshd wants /etc/ssh/keys/$user/authorized_keys
[12:41] <tomreyn> Skyrider: you must have misunderstood part of the manual / how-to you've been following. the users' private keys, used to authenticate to the ssh server, are only created and stored on the connecting clients.
[12:41] <mgedmin> (I'm not entirely sure; I've never changed the default ssh key directory paths)
[12:43] <tomreyn> Skyrider: only the users' public SSH keys are then copied to the SSH server and installed there in the location the SSH server will look for them when a matching user is attempting to authenticate.
[12:44] <tomreyn> Skyrider: i.e. the private key you have stored in /etc/ssh/keys/$USER/ should definitely not be there.
[12:47] <tomreyn> also, i would recommend you go with the defaults initially, where you place, on the SSH server, users' SSH public keys (which they will later authenticate against) in their home directories, in the /home/$USER/.ssh/authorized_keys file (or in the users' respective ~/.ssh/authorized_keys - if you have decided not to store home directories in the default location, /home)
[12:47] <Skyrider> Thing is.. User has no home.
[12:48] <Skyrider> It's a customized user that has a specific www directory set, no home required.
[12:48] <tomreyn> then this specific www directory is their home
[12:48] <Skyrider> So I can't use a custom key directory?
[12:49] <tomreyn> who owns the specific www directory?
[12:50] <Skyrider> The name of the user? Also, I followed: https://www.ssh.com/ssh/key/#sec-How-to-configure-key-based-authentication
[12:50] <tomreyn> yes you can use a custom authentication public key file location
[12:50] <Skyrider> "MOVING SSH KEYS TO A ROOT-OWNED LOCATION" in particular.
[12:54] <ericus> The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install to / target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot.
[12:54] <ericus> Sigh..
[12:54] <Skyrider> I copied over the public key to /etc/ssh/keys/esf-web/authorized_keys - using the following in sshd config: AuthorizedKeysFile /etc/ssh/keys/%u/authorized_keys
[12:55] <tomreyn> Skyrider: yes, this should work. it's not what i'd do the first time i set up (a concept already somewhat difficult to grasp for anyone not into it already) public key authentication in openssh. and i'd personally prefer to use documentation provided by the operating system (man sshd) or the software i'm using (openssh.org),
[12:55] <Skyrider> I still get the same error though.
[12:56] <tomreyn> so time to revisit what i told you first
[12:56] <EriC^^> ericus: start the bootloader with "ubiquity -b" then chroot and manually install grub later
[12:58] <Skyrider> Using home directory instead? :p
 Skyrider: you must have misunderstood part of the manual / how-to you've been following. the users' private keys, used to authenticate to the ssh server, are only created and stored on the connecting clients.
[12:59] <ericus> It was my fault, I missed a thing
[13:01] <tomreyn> Skyrider: you said "The /etc/ssh/keys/user directory contains 2 files. One without extension (private) and one with .pub (public)." - if this refers to the openssh *servers* directories then this is not how it should be. there should only be a public key, no provide key, in this directory.
[13:01] <tomreyn> s/provide key/private key/
[13:02] <tomreyn> sorry, still waking up.
[13:03] <tomreyn> Skyrider: if it's still unclear what's wrong there then maybe you can link to the guide you followed to create the "2 files" in the "/etc/ssh/keys/user directory".
[13:04] <Skyrider> I created a tmp home directory just to create the pub/private key files
[13:04] <Skyrider> After that, moved them to another location.. not sure why it won't work.. it's just a file, and set the location in the sshd config file.
[13:05] <tomreyn> on which system did you create "a tmp home directory just to create the pub/private key files"? on the server you want the ssh clients to authenticate against? then that was wrong.
[13:07] <Skyrider> The main system where it should login as well. Why would it be wrong exactly? Is there anything that indicates it's directory specific?
[13:09] <tomreyn> the authenticating users' secrets should always be created on a system exclusively controlled by the authenticating client (or, in the absence of such, the same system they will use to connect from).
[13:09] <zmagii> hey guys
[13:10] <Skyrider> hi
[13:10] <tomreyn> Skyrider: the server does not need to, and never should, get to see the users' private ssh key.
[13:11] <zmagii> is there a known issue on ubuntu with xauth/xserver/xhost? I can't run for example gedit from the terminal; i get an error "Gtk-WARNING cannot open display"
[13:11] <zmagii> export DISPLAY=:0 doesn't help
[13:11] <Skyrider> I get that ^^, so why wouldn't a custom directory set in sshd config work where the public key is located?
[13:11] <Skyrider> The key is generated on the same system.
[13:12] <tomreyn> Skyrider: a custom directory set in sshd config work where the public key is located?
[13:12] <tomreyn> thats fine
[13:12] <zmagii> this is via ssh
[13:12] <zmagii> "xhost +" also does not help
[13:12] <tomreyn> Skyrider: but storing the connecting clients' ssh private key on the server only is not going to work. and it should not be stored on the serve rin the first place.
[13:13] <Skyrider> AuthorizedKeysFile /etc/ssh/keys/%u/authorized_keys - public file is located over there, yet I receive the same  No supported authentication methods available (server sent: publickey) error though.
[13:13] <tomreyn> Skyrider: because the ssh client will need to have access to its private key to be able to authenticate to the server
[13:13] <Skyrider> In this case, filezilla. Which converted the private key to *.ppk
[13:14] <Skyrider> Let me attempt to use the same private key on ssh, 1 sec.
[13:14] <palo-alto> Awesome!
[13:15] <zmagii> oh, so it works if i run "xhost +" and then reboot
[13:15] <zmagii> this is in a VM on my local machine
[13:15] <zmagii> strangely, it doesn't work on AWS EC2...
[13:16] <Skyrider> Ya, even on Putty same error.
[13:16] <Skyrider> Apparently ppk file has a file format error.
[13:17] <zmagii> Skyrider: yes?
[13:17] <Skyrider> ?
[13:19] <zmagii> what is the ppk file error, or where you replying to someone else
[13:19] <tomreyn> zmagii: Skyrider was not replying to you there
[13:20] <tomreyn> !who | Skyrider
[13:20] <Skyrider> Haha, sure :D
[13:20] <zmagii> right sorry
[13:20] <tomreyn> Skyrider: so this private key file filezilla (on the ssh client, i assume) and now putty (also on the ssh client, i assume) has available: how did it get there in the first place?
[13:21] <Skyrider> The SSH public key works now on putty. Was able to login :)
[13:21] <KOLANICH> You have an issue in mesa clover. The problem was resolved by rebuilding clover and linking it to llvm 10. https://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43444#c3
[13:22] <Skyrider> Just for some reason filezilla cannot read the ppk file by default and has to be converted.. which breaks the key file that it cannot be read by putty.
[13:22] <pragmaticenigma> !bugs | KOLANICH
[13:23] <pragmaticenigma> KOLANICH: This channel is run by volunteers. It is best to report bugs to the launchpad, please see the link that ubottu just posted for help on posting bugs
[13:23] <tomreyn> Skyrider: have you read https://wiki.filezilla-project.org/Howto ?
[13:27] <tomreyn> Skyrider: next time you setup something like this, i very much recommend you first set it up between two linux systems, using default configurations. and only when you have this working, extrapolate to the windows client and to non-default server configurations. this (a) ensures you memorize important methodologies affecting secure operation properly (i am not convinced you achieved this in this case, yet) and (b) makes for a much simpler test
[13:27] <tomreyn> case you can build on.
[13:34] <Skyrider> tomreyn: Currently reading through the converting part. As for 2 systems, I only have 1.
[13:35] <tomreyn> Skyrider: you seem to have at least a windows system you're using as the ssh guest, and an ubuntu system running opensshd.
[13:35] <Skyrider> Mh, don't think Kitty can convert.
[13:36] <tomreyn> you could run an additional virtual (or containerized) ubuntu guest on the windows system.
[13:37] <tomreyn> cats are not generally good at converting, most of the time they remain cats for their entire lifespan.
[13:41] <Skyrider> *shrugs*, I've converted it using puttygen. Even then same error.
[13:41] <Skyrider> Is it because I used "ed25519"?
[13:42]  * tomreyn shrugs
[13:42] <tomreyn> not an ubuntu support issue
[13:44] <Skyrider> What isn't exactly? :p
[13:45] <ericus> I'm now getting dropped to a grub bash shell upon boot..
[13:46] <ericus> This is starting to become annoying
[13:46] <humpled> sigh
[13:46] <EoflaOE> ericus: Minimal bash like message or something?
[13:47] <ericus> GNU GRUB version 2.02
[13:47] <ericus> Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported bla bla
[13:48] <EoflaOE> ericus: OK. What happens when you press ESC? Does it give a menu with an option to boot to Ubuntu?
[13:49] <ericus> Nothing happens, it prints a new line
[13:50] <EoflaOE> ericus: Got this. What did you do to the boot manager last time you have successfully booted to Ubuntu?
 The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install to / target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot.
[13:50] <ericus> humpled I fixed that
[13:51] <ericus> Missed this the first try
[13:51] <ericus> echo "GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y" >> /target/etc/default/grub
[13:51] <ericus> So yeah, not that..
[13:57] <EoflaOE> ericus: Can you pastebin the output of /etc/default/grub of your affected installation?
[14:02] <CrazySam> does ubuntu 19.04 support mst?
[14:02] <CrazySam> multi stream transport?
[14:03] <tomreyn> can you point us to the RFC for that?
[14:05] <Habbie> it's for displays
[14:05] <Habbie> not for networks
[14:06] <CrazySam> yeah mst is for displayport
[14:06] <CrazySam> so i found the culprit for my graphics issue yesterday: i have 2 monitors daisy chained and ubuntu 19.04 doesn't like that
[14:07] <CrazySam> currently stuck at boot with ubuntu logo and 5 dots animating on the main monitor
[14:08] <CrazySam> atm not even ctrl+alt+del helps, i will have to pull the plug on it
[14:08] <EoflaOE> CrazySam: Can you boot it again without quiet and splash?
[14:10] <CrazySam> i could try that, yes
[14:10] <CrazySam> let me just add that i tested a few minutes ago to unplug the slave monitor and just leave 1 monitor plugged in
[14:11] <CrazySam> that way i was able to boot normally without freezing, and also, i noticed the behavior of the splash screen and initial mouse pointer position was different
[14:11] <tomreyn> initial support for displayport multii-stream support has been in Linux 3.16. i am not sure what the current state is.
[14:12] <tomreyn> that's for i915
[14:14] <tomreyn> amdgpu should have seen initial support in 4.1
[14:14] <CrazySam> i would get a low-res "ubuntu 19.04" in the middle of the monitor, then it would jump up to the upper left corner with animating 4 dots (not 5), and then a black screen with purple 1 inch thick horizontal line would appear at the bottom, and the mouse cursor appears in the lower right corner
[14:14] <CrazySam> right after that the login screen appears and i can sign in normally
[14:14] <CrazySam> so that's 1 monitor only connected
[14:15] <CrazySam> if i reboot and quickly plug in monitor 2 which chained to the first one, and i do that before the boot process begins, i can effectively make it freeze
[14:16] <CrazySam> this way i get very crisp high-res ubuntu logo in the middle of the main monitor with 5 animating dots (not 4 and not in the upper left corner). and that's all i get....
[14:17] <CrazySam> anyone seen anything like this? where daisy chaining monitors to a ubuntu host breaks the boot process and screws with the splash screen and cursor position?
[14:18] <tomreyn> CrazySam: please make sure you point uot any non-common configurations (both software and hardware) when asking for support here in the future. this can save you and (especially) those volunteers trying to support you here a lot of time.
[14:18] <uRock> I'm guessing you're using a disk drive, as SSDs boot so fast I am lucky to even see a logo during startup. It flashes for a second, then I'm at the login screen.
[14:18] <tomreyn> s/uot/out/
[14:19] <CrazySam> ok, well if hdd counts as non-common then yes, i have one here
[14:19] <CrazySam> wd black caviar 1 tb
[14:19] <CrazySam> that's the only disk in the system
[14:19] <k00l3th4n> When did Ubuntu Gnome get tray icons back?
[14:20] <CrazySam> ubuntu 19.04 installed cleanly from usb, disk is wiped, so no windows left
[14:21] <uRock> k00l3th4n, I've never noticed that there wasn't tray icons.
[14:21] <mgedmin> k00l3th4n: back when ubuntu decided to switch from unity to gnome as the default session, IIRC?
[14:22] <CrazySam> does anyone here use daisy chained monitors with ubuntu? just wondering as to why this is a problem for my system
[14:22] <k00l3th4n> uRock, Yeah, Gnome did away with tray icons in 3.26 and users were forced to use extension (Topicons Plus) to get them back.
[14:22] <tomreyn> CrazySam: So what i tried to point out above is that DP MST support is subject to driver support (and possibly hardware, too). So it would certainly help to state which graphics hardware and drivers you are using to determine whether it can be supported on your system.
[14:23] <CrazySam> ok, well i looked at that yesterday, and i recall seeing "radeon" as driver. the command i used didn't say much more than that.
[14:23] <CrazySam> gpu is radeon indeed
[14:24] <k00l3th4n> mgedmin, I don't understand what you mean...
[14:24] <CrazySam> hd 6850
[14:24] <CrazySam> the "radeon" driver is open sourced right?
[14:25] <tomreyn> It is.
[14:25] <CrazySam> i have a done a complete reinstall of the system and made sure not to install any prop software
[14:25] <CrazySam> the chip is called "barts" i think in the ubuntu about system page
[14:26] <CrazySam> cpu is q9650
[14:26] <CrazySam> 8 gb of ram, corsair
[14:26] <CrazySam> 800 mhz i think
[14:26] <EoflaOE> CrazySam: What message did it stuck on when you reboot with no quiet and no splash after plugging in the monitor?
[14:28] <CrazySam> right! it's been sitting here waiting, so i will go shut it down and reboot and see what happens
[14:29] <tomreyn> CrazySam: So you're saying that AMD/ATI Radeon HD 6850 (BARTS generation) is the graphics hardware which manages the DP connector your screens are connected to, and that the kernel module managing it is "radeon". Can you confirm this?
[14:31] <CarlFK> where can I see support status of like 14.04?
[14:31] <CarlFK> I need a url I can site
[14:31] <tomreyn> !14.04 | CarlFK
[14:31] <tomreyn> !End-of-life
[14:31] <dax> CarlFK: and for the URL, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:32] <frad> im looking for an organizer, like korganizer, but with times listed as 24 hour cycles, not AM and PM
[14:32] <CrazySam> tomreyn, that's what i have gathered so far, yes, and right this moment i have shut it down and without the second monitor connected and rebooted but it still hangs at boot because it's left in a bad state from last time
[14:32] <CarlFK> dax: bingo
[14:33] <CrazySam> tomreyn, i.e. it still thinks the second monitor is connected
[14:33] <CrazySam> tab tab tab for grub menu right? i can't seem to get to it
[14:33] <uRock> frad, Google Calendar can be configured that way.
[14:34] <frad> uRock, any other options?
[14:35] <CrazySam> i can see messages about "a start job is running for "Hold" until boot process finishes up"
[14:35] <CrazySam> 2 lines
[14:35] <uRock> IDK, I don't use any desktop apps. My life is too simple for needing anything like that.
[14:36] <tomreyn> CrazySam: if you're (legacy) bios / CRM booting, hold down shift after POST. if you're UEFI booting hit escape repeatedly after POST.
[14:36] <tomreyn> CrazySam: this was about how to access the grub menu
[14:36] <CrazySam> ok
[14:36] <tomreyn> !recovery | CrazySam
[14:37] <tomreyn> CrazySam: Do you have additional graphics chipsets installed? Can you confirm that you're running Ubuntu 19.04 with the standard/unchanged login manager (gdm3) and graphical desktop (gnome-shell)?
[14:38] <CrazySam> ctrl+alt+del worked this time without having to cut power, rebooted, tried shift, didn't work, i am left with a flashing underscore and a black screen
[14:39] <Gusj> Hello there, I am new to linux, used it many years ago and now trying to come back to it.. I installed Ubuntustudio on a Toshiba Satellite laptop. The laptop keyboard and trackpad do not work, I am using a USB mouse that does work, but a USB keyboard only works sometimes, sometimes it recognizes it sometimes no.I have uninstalled xserver-xorg-input-all, I have turned off autosuspend it is -1 now..  when it is booting I can see: " i8042: can’t reactiv
[14:39] <Gusj> ate aux port" the USB KYBRD I coudl see showed up in the app 'Mouse and Trackpad' sometimes, it would disconnect by itself can somebody please help me?
[14:39] <CrazySam> tomreyn, no gpu other than radeon hd6850
[14:40] <CrazySam> ok i got to grub menu
[14:41] <CrazySam> quite splash removed
[14:41] <Gusj> CrazySam are you talking to me??
[14:41] <CrazySam> no
[14:41] <Gusj> ok sry
[14:42] <CrazySam> booting...
[14:42] <CrazySam> mouse cursor in the lower right corner
[14:42] <CrazySam> login screen!
[14:43] <CrazySam> ok i am back at it once again, not gonna connect monitor 2 now, just 1 will do
[14:43] <CrazySam> signed in...
[14:43] <CrazySam> at the desktop...
[14:44] <CrazySam> let me give it a reboot for good measure to see if it works now
[14:45] <nate> tomreyn: If I completely 'format' a drive from a live boot, there should be 0 remnants of a previous install or EFI correct?  Cause I spent most of last night dealing with it failing when apparently trying to do grub-install dummy, and an attempt to manually tinker with it results in `failed to register the EFI boot entry: No such file or directory.`
[14:45] <CrazySam> oh i see what the flashing underscore was about... that's where it writes out /dev/sda1: clean,<PHONE_NUMBER>2753 blocks, bla bla
[14:45] <CrazySam> so it was stuck at that previously
[14:45] <nate> And even after a fresh install it complains about "seeing a previous install that was set into a non-UEFI mode" right before trying to partition things
[14:46] <CrazySam> ubuntu logo with not 4 but 5 animating dots... not looking good at this point...
[14:47] <CrazySam> ok it' stuck again...
[14:48] <CrazySam> how do i fix it? remove quite and splash from grub menu? you got to be kidding? ok...
[14:48] <AlexPortable> How can I fix internet on Ubuntu? Sometimes it doesn't work, a ping yields in 'destination host unreachable'
[14:50] <bane> Anyone else here absolutely hate netplan and it's bullsh!t yaml syntax?
[14:50] <bane> Especially when you're trying to bond & lacp multiple interfaces
[14:51] <CrazySam> now i have 4 dots and they are not animating with ubuntu logo in the upper left corner... looking good now...
[14:52] <CrazySam> what the hell is the matter with 4 vs. 5 dots and 2 different ubuntu logos? and why does it sometimes appear in the upper left corner of the monitor? and why is it not animating when it does so?
[14:52] <CrazySam> i am at the login screen now so it worked
[14:53] <CrazySam> whenever the f-ed up logo appears with 4 dots i can get to the login screen, when the pretty one with 5 dots appears i can't get anywhere
[14:53] <CrazySam> signed in and at the desktop now... thank you 4 dot ubuntu logo!
[14:54] <CrazySam> what does this mean?
[14:54] <uRock> lmao
[14:55] <CrazySam> https://static.makeuseof.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/muo-linux-plymouth-splash-default.png
[14:55] <CrazySam> this is the pretty logo with 5 dots
[14:56] <CrazySam> this one is always pretty (high res) and in the middle of the monitor, and won't let me get past it so i can sign in and use the system
[14:57] <CrazySam> it's also animating the dots
[14:57] <CrazySam> and here is the ugly 4 dot logo: https://i.stack.imgur.com/x8kw7.png
[14:58] <CrazySam> see what i mean?
[14:58] <CrazySam> these are sample images from the internet
[14:58] <CrazySam> on both of mine i see "ubuntu 19.04"
[14:59] <uRock> Does 18.04 have the same issues?
[14:59] <tomreyn> nate: depends on how you "format". if you actually zero the first 1 MB of the storage and create new partitions at different boundaries than previously then this would behave the same as a blank disk.
[14:59] <CrazySam> i don't recall having this issue ever with 18.04 but i didn't have the pc hooked up to these 2 monitors before
[15:00] <CrazySam> what does it mean though for ubuntu to have more than one splash screen? what's the point?
[15:00] <tomreyn> nate: note that efivars will remain, though. but this should not normally get int the way.
[15:00] <tomreyn> !enter | CrazySam
[15:01] <nate> tomreyn: I think unfortunately that it is, it's the only thing I can think of that might be making it 'view' a previous OS, one set in legacy mode instead of UEFI at that
[15:01] <nate> I guess I'll just have to go console and manually make sure it's all cleared out of the drive
[15:04] <tomreyn> nate: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1M    should overwrite the first 1MB of disk sdX. make sure not to pick the wrong target device (as indicated by "sdX" here).
[15:05] <tomreyn> i would not be surprised if there are graphical utilities to achieve similar, but i am not aware of those, prefer a terminal for such changes.
[15:06] <jfcaron> Is there a viewer for 3D .stl files (like for 3D printing) in the repositories?
[15:07] <CrazySam> tomreyn, i have gnome shell 3.32.0
[15:07] <jfcaron> Just a *viewer*
[15:07] <CrazySam> tomreyn, as for login manager, i assume it is the same as whatever shipped with ubuntu 19.04
[15:08] <EoflaOE> jfcaron: This can be moved to #ubuntu-discuss.
[15:09] <CrazySam> will someone please offer an explanation as to why ubuntu has 2 different splash screens?
[15:09] <CrazySam> in the same release
[15:13] <mgedmin> tomreyn: nate: without count=1 that dd command will zero the entire disk in 1 meg increments
[15:13] <mgedmin> CrazySam: there's a GUI one, and a fallback text-only one in case the graphics could not be initialized for some reason
[15:14] <EoflaOE> jfcaron: I mean #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:15] <tomreyn> !info gmsh | jfcaron
[15:15] <CrazySam> mgedmin, sounds about right what's happening here. thanks
[15:16] <CrazySam> i my gnome shell is 3.32.0, what gdm version should i be on? and how do i find the version of gdm?
[15:17] <CrazySam> assuming they are not one and the same
[15:19] <jfcaron> tomreyn, Thanks I will look at tha.
[15:19] <tomreyn> nate: mgedmin is right, apologies
[15:20] <tomreyn> jfcaron: it's more than a viewer, but it should work for vieweing from what i read. and it's in the repositories.
[15:25] <tomreyn> AlexPortable: is the "destination host unreachable" issue intermittent or constant?
[15:25] <nate> tomreyn: Yeah thankfully I know enough about dd to remember that lol, though at least the drive definitely would be clean clean, just would take a while :P
[15:26] <tomreyn> nate: yes, and luckily you meant to 'clean' this storage anyways.
[15:26] <nate> yeah
[15:27] <tomreyn> (but this oversight (on my part) could have caused data loss results otherwise.)
[15:27] <tomreyn> AlexPortable: if it's just intermittent then this is usually not an issue you can solve on your ubuntu system, but something about the router / internet connection.
[15:28] <tomreyn> CrazySam: the text logo screen is a fallback in case graphical output is not available at the time for some reason.
[15:31] <CrazySam> interesting
[15:32] <mgedmin> I've one server that doesn't display the boot log (or anything, it boots with a blank black screen right up until 'tty1 login:' shows up)
[15:32] <mgedmin> I should figure out why it does that someday
[15:33] <CrazySam> tomreyn, gdm is 3.32.0 as well, fwiw
[15:35] <ioria> mgedmin, check your /etc/default/grub
[15:36] <CrazySam> i will have to try 18.04 on this px just to see what happens
[15:36] <mgedmin> ioria: https://dpaste.de/ovh4 looks right to me at first glance
[15:36] <CrazySam> but at least for now it seems to be working, it stood the test of 3 subsequent reboots
[15:40] <ioria> mgedmin, sorry, you're using 'quiet splash'
[15:41] <AlexPortable> tomreyn: when the issue occurs, it's constant, until a reboot of the system. Other hosts on the same network are not affected
[15:41] <ioria> mgedmin, if you want the boot log you need the 'text' mode or remove quiet splash
[15:42] <mgedmin> no, I want the nice splash screen
[15:42] <mgedmin> instead of a black screen
[15:43] <ioria> mgedmin, oh, i see; using nividia ?
[15:43] <ioria> *nvidia
[15:45] <mgedmin> intel video
[15:45] <tomreyn> AlexPortable: hmm, when it happens, can you still use the internet at all on this ubuntu system (reach some sites but not others)?
[15:45] <AlexPortable> no
[15:45] <AlexPortable> i cannot ping any hosts
[15:45] <mgedmin> but it's a server, the text-only logo would be more appropriate
[15:46] <tomreyn> AlexPortable: can you still ping ip addresses then?
[15:46] <AlexPortable> no
[15:46] <tomreyn> AlexPortable: check dmesg|tail for hints on what is going wrong when it's happening.
[15:46] <mgedmin> plymouth and plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text are both installed
[15:47] <tomreyn> AlexPortable: or better: run    journalctl -f    now and keep it running, and look at its output when it happens
[15:48] <AlexPortable> I already did that once, not much came out
[15:48] <AlexPortable> but ill try again
[15:48] <AlexPortable> any other commands I can try?
[15:52] <mgedmin> ... is it plymouth that provides the boot splash in ubuntu 18.04?
[15:53] <EoflaOE> mgedmin: Do you have plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo installed?
[15:54] <mgedmin> no, only plymouth and plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text
[15:55] <EoflaOE> mgedmin: So you want the nice Ubuntu logo with 5 dots, right? Or just text?
[15:59] <mgedmin> just text please
[16:01] <tomreyn> AlexPortable: run    nmcli    to identify the connection profile UUID, then run     nmcli c s UUID > ~/nm1.txt    now and     nmcli c s UUID > ~/nm2.txt    when it happens again. and then you can compare the two files using     diff -u ~/.nm{1,2}.txt
[16:03] <tomreyn> AlexPortable: also run    ethtool --statistics NETDEVICE     with "NETDEVICE" replaced by the DEVICE given in the "nmcli" output for your connection profile.
[16:03] <AlexPortable> the last command, when it works or when it doesnt work?
[16:04] <tomreyn> should always work, but it's best run after it fails.
[16:04] <tomreyn> you may need to install the package of the same name
[16:05] <EoflaOE> mgedmin: Write "cd /usr/share/plymouth/themes". What does "sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth" say? Is the text theme default?
[16:05] <mgedmin> /etc/alternatives/default.plymouth doesn't exist, text.plymouth is a symlink to the text theme
[16:06] <mgedmin> update-alternatives says "update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for default.plymouth"
[16:06] <mgedmin> maybe I need to add 'nomodeset' to the kernel command line to tell plymouth to fall back to the text theme or something?
[16:08] <EoflaOE> mgedmin: Does the solution help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1046370/how-to-change-boot-splash-screen-in-18-04
[16:16] <mgedmin> I figure there's a reason why ubuntu-text.plymouth is not a possible alternative for default.plymouth
[16:32] <parak0vsky> I have external drive mounted as folder but Ubuntu can't attach files from it using drag and drop for some reason
[16:40] <c|oneman> anyone use HandleLidSwitch=ignore ? It works to prevent my laptop from sleeping, but then the display stays off permanently
[16:44] <mgedmin> I've a laptop used as a home media pc, connected to a tv over hdmi, and I use HandleLidSwitch=ignore
[16:44] <mgedmin> the external display goes on/off as appropriate
[16:45] <mgedmin> last I remember, when I had to open the lid for some reason, the internal display came back?  but don't quote me on that
[16:45] <mgedmin> I'm on ubuntu 19.04
[16:45] <mgedmin> I also have HandleLidSwitchExternalPower=ignore, but I don't remember why
[16:48] <palo-alto> koi he
[16:49] <AlexPortable> tomreyn: so far nothing weird appears, but i'll try it again when the problem ocurs. thanks
[16:53] <tomreyn> AlexPortable: if you replace "NETDEVICE" by the device name here again, does this output anything?    ethtool --statistics NETDEVICE | grep -E 'fail|err|coll|sync|drop|abort|timeout' | grep -v ': 0'
[16:57] <AlexPortable> now not, since it works now
[16:59] <bane> hmmm having issues getting my two interfaces to bond using netplan, so i removed it, disabled the services and installed ifupdown & ifenslave
[17:00] <bane> still having a difficult time getting anything to work. but i've heard that if you remove netplan, dns servers are then defined in /etc/resolv.conf rather than the config filein /etc/network/interfaces
[17:01] <bane> also, i've heard that if you create a 'bond0' by default you can't use lacp, so i'd have to create a bond interface with a different name... apparently this is only for ubuntu 1804? Not sure if there is anything truth to that
[17:15] <tomreyn> bane: netplan is only used on ubuntu server by default (and so are LACP bonding configurations, i guess): /join #ubuntu-server
[17:17] <bane> ohhhhh duhhhh
[17:17] <bane> thanks <3
[17:18] <mekhami> hey, i'm on ubuntu 18, for some reason my ethernet just stopped working and i'm wondering what i can do to figure out why? like i rebooted and now i have no IP according to i3 status anyway
[17:18] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | mekhami
[17:18] <mekhami> 18.04
[17:19] <tomreyn> do you use network manager for managing network access?
[17:19] <mekhami> not that i know of
[17:20] <mekhami> it's just been plug and play since i've had this machine...
[17:20] <tomreyn> does "nmcli" suggest that it is in use, though?
[17:21] <mekhami> it shows eno1: disconnected
[17:21] <mekhami> that's my ethernet connection
[17:21] <mekhami> it says 1 connection available
[17:22] <tomreyn> so you usually connect via ethernet?
[17:22] <mekhami> always
[17:23] <tomreyn> does  "nmcli d" say that all ethernet devices are in state "connected"?
[17:23] <mekhami> it shows eno1 as "connecting (getting IP configuration)"
[17:24] <tomreyn> what's the "CONNECTION" for DEVICE 'eno1'?
[17:25] <tomreyn> mekhami: ^ see above, and once you know, also see if you can run "nm-connection-editor"
[17:26] <mekhami> the connection is "Wired connection 1"
[17:26] <mekhami> and yeah i've got that open now
[17:28] <tomreyn> mekhami: in nm-connection-editor, double-click on "Wired connection 1" to edit this connection, review all the settings, then close it and delete it. then create a new ethernet connection using the + character bottom left, replacing the previous connection profile.
[17:29] <mekhami> okay, did that
[17:30] <tomreyn> are still offline, though?
[17:30] <mekhami> still nada, maybe this is in the router then?
[17:30] <mekhami> yeah, still offline
[17:30] <tomreyn> could be, yes
[17:31] <tomreyn> if the dhcp server the router provides is not responding and your ubuntu is configured for receiving its networking configuration this way, this could be why,
[17:31] <tomreyn> (that's the default configuration)
[17:32] <mekhami> hmm this is google fiber so they don't have a conventional router config.. :/
[17:32] <tomreyn> maybe try rebooting the router, though
[17:32] <mekhami> okay gonna disconnect then ,back in a bit. thanks for your help.
[17:33] <tomreyn> you're welcome.
[17:37] <mekhami2> tomreyn: as usual, turning it off and on again....
[17:38] <tomreyn> mekhami2: so rebooting the router fixed it?
[17:39] <mekhami2> yeah
[17:39] <mekhami2> the thing i should be trying first... well at least i learned about nmcli
[17:41] <tomreyn> okay, good. i had a similar situation (also on 18.04.3) yesterday, which puzzled me much, and i can't claim to really understand what happened. i also restarted my router by i tried several things in parallel so i can't relly say what fixed it.
[17:41] <tomreyn> * BUT i tried
[17:51] <Emcy> pulseaudio knows about what applications are making sound, can it pipe sound from apps to different audio devices?
[18:08] <pragmaticenigma> Emcy: Are you asking if PulseAudio has the capability of selecting different sources of sound (be it application or device) and selective send the audio stream to another device dependent on the source?
[18:09] <Emcy> yes
[18:09] <Emcy> what i want to do is take my internet radio app and pipe it out the bluetooth to my hifi
[18:10] <pragmaticenigma> Emcy: Pulse Audio has a feature called Virtual streams where you can define such rules. I'm not familiar with it, but that might help you with your web searches
[18:10] <pragmaticenigma> Emcy: This askubuntu article is where I think you find a base for starting: https://askubuntu.com/questions/257992/how-can-i-use-pulseaudio-virtual-audio-streams-to-play-music-over-skype
[18:17] <n-iCe> hi
[18:40] <vlt> Hello. Any idea how to scroll a (text) file with a certain speed (in lines/s)?
[18:40] <vlt> A Python script?
[18:42] <sarnold> vlt: this looks decent https://grox.net/software/mine/slowcat/slowcat.py
[18:43] <sarnold> vlt: I've seen half-dozen implementations of 'slowcat' over the decades :) if you don't like this one there's bound to be more..
[18:45] <vlt> sarnold: Thank you :)
[18:58] <rishav> I have freshly installed Ubuntu 18.04.03.. While working in it, sometimes a symbol pops up. The symbol is like a circle and inside the circle there is line at around 60 degree
[18:58] <rishav> Does anyone know what is the symbol about?
[19:03] <tomreyn> rishav: sounds like a "disallowed" icon. but it's difficult to tell without more context. can you show a screenshot?
[19:04] <rishav> tomreyn, okay I will send url if I can get the screenshot
[19:04] <tomreyn> like this? 🚫
[19:04] <rishav> tomreyn, yes exactly
[19:05] <tomreyn> okay, please show it in context.
[19:05] <tomreyn> in the meantime: rishav: were there any error messages during the installation?
[19:06] <rishav> tomreyn, I am not getting the symbol now though. but I am clueless about it. No I didn't get any error msg while installing
[19:06] <tomreyn> when you run this in a terminal, are there any error messages?   sudo apt update
[19:07] <ncuxo> Hello everybody I need some help with cronjob
[19:07] <rishav> tomreyn, yes I think there are some error messages, but I overlooked everytime
[19:08] <ncuxo> I can't set up my root cronjob I get an error everytime stating that my time specifier is bad
[19:08] <ncuxo> I've checked everything a couple of times with crontab guru
[19:09] <tomreyn> rishav: you can copy and paste this to a terminal. it should return just a http address which you can paste here:    sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog
[19:10] <tomreyn> ncuxo: post your cronjob to the pastebin and the pastebin url here
[19:12] <rishav> https://termbin.com/3sxx
[19:12] <rishav> tomreyn, here is the url
[19:13] <ncuxo> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7bDQHsmnMb/ the pastebin as requested :/
[19:13] <ncuxo> I've tried also 0 0/6 * * * and it doesn't work
[19:13] <tomreyn> rishav: so there's no issue with updates, it must be something else.
[19:14] <tomreyn> ncuxo: which file did you configur it in?
[19:14] <tomreyn> (or using which command)
[19:14] <ncuxo> sudo crontab -e
[19:14] <rishav> tomreyn, I also saw the updates are okay. Now the symbol is not appearing anymore though.. tomreyn
[19:15] <tomreyn> ncuxo: so in root's crontab. root'home directory is /root. from there, there is most likely no path ./home/ncuxo/bash.sh
[19:16] <tomreyn> * root's home directory is /root
[19:16] <ncuxo> ohh
[19:16] <tomreyn> rishav: maybe it was just temporary then.
[19:16] <ncuxo> I thought it's /
[19:16] <rishav> tomreyn, I hope so..
[19:17] <tomreyn> ncuxo: does this script actually need to run as root?
[19:17] <ncuxo> its apt-get update && upgrade bash script
[19:17] <tomreyn> ncuxo: is there a reason you run it like this?
[19:18] <tomreyn> there's the "unattended-upgrades" package which can do similar.
[19:18] <ncuxo> I'm testing some stuff on my desktop before I move it on my homelab server
[19:19] <ncuxo> I've noticed a couple of places referring to it but I don't feel like installing it if I can get it to work with cron
[19:19] <TheWild> hello
[19:20] <TheWild> TheWild: I got a movie on s**t-balanced DVD. I think you know what it means.
[19:20] <TheWild> How to enforce 1x read speed?
[19:20] <TheWild> I tried with "eject -x 1| and "hdparm -E 1 /dev/cdrom", but neither worked
[19:20] <ncuxo> on my user I can do "echo 'password' | sudo -S apt-get update -y && apt-get upgrade -y" but I wanted to get it to work on my root user
[19:23] <nate> tomreyn: So I ended up just working around all the dramatics by installing it under a classic non-GPT partition with an MBR lol
[19:23] <tomreyn> ncuxo: normally, it'd be safer to have root only run scripts which other users cannot modify. the way it is done now you're having root run scripts which can probably also be modified by user "ncuxo". it'd be better to cheown root:root the script and place it in /root. but this is more a general remark - i understand you're only using this temporarily as it is now.
[19:24] <ncuxo> tomreyn:  I've already changed the file to be root@root and gave it 700 permissions
[19:25] <tomreyn> nate: glad you got it installed in the end. if you'd like this to be easier in the future, you could get a second storage.
[19:27] <ncuxo> now it start working with no changes
[19:27] <ncuxo> I hate it when I can not find my error
[19:29] <tomreyn> TheWild: i read that "for many drives, [4] is the lowest speed supported" at https://michal.kosmulski.org/computing/tips/cd-rom-speed.html
[19:30] <TheWild> tried 4 as well and didn't work either, And this is the only drive.
[19:30] <TheWild> (okay, now surprisingly works quietly without setting anything up)
[19:35] <arooni> anyone got bluetooth working on ubuntu 18.04?
[19:35] <arooni> connection to bluez failed; bluez daemon is not running, blueman-manager cannot continue...
[19:38] <nate> tomreyn: Odd thing is I'm not sure that would work any better, since I did a complete wipe to this drive and it still acted like there was some sort of EFI existence lol
[19:40] <tomreyn> nate: if you were hoping for a comment on this, i'm afraid i cannot, for lack of details.
[19:47] <rishav> arooni, yes the bluetooth is working. I just now connected my phone's bluetooth..
[19:53] <arooni> i see an error ' no adapters found'
[19:57] <nate> tomreyn: As in I even did the initial-bytes wipe we talked about earlier but running the launcher again it was still "identifying" a pre-existing install and asked me if I wanted to install forced UEFI or not, so this time I chose not, and everything went fine.  I'm just gonna blame HP :P
[19:59] <tomreyn> nate: the "launcher"? do you mean the 19.04 desktop installer?
[20:02] <tomreyn> maybe you still had a efi system partition on a different storage which it analyzed there. i don't know how exactly the installer identifies existing installations (maybe using os-prober, which is not failsafe).
[20:09] <nikolam> My Skype on 19.04 worked yesterday with analogue headset and now it does not see andy audio device in Skype audio and video settings.
[20:09] <nikolam> Anyone using Skype on Linux, with snap or as .deb can see how it is working for him?
[20:12] <doug16k> nikolam, I use skype every day
[20:12] <doug16k> it is saying there is an update available, so I can't say I have been using the latest one
[20:13] <doug16k> using Skype version <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:13] <doug16k> been working fine for years
[20:15] <doug16k> nikolam, I did have to remove tsched=0 from my the "load-module module-udev-detect" line in in my /etc/pulse/default.pa to fix massive audio glitches
[20:22] <nikolam> Skype here is <IP_ADDRESS> and it's same version on snap and .deb and from today it does not see audio devices
[20:22] <nikolam> tried reinstalling and the same
[20:24] <naribia> Hi all, I'm running 18.04 on my desktop computer, I'm not sure if it was an update or what but it is running painfully slow, and "top" does not show anything using max resources, can anyone help?
[20:24] <naribia> I should add that this happene all of a sudden, it was running smooth for a long time before this
[20:26] <tomreyn> naribia: run    journalctl -kf    in a terminal and keep it running for a minute (ctrl-c to stop) while you browse some directories on your file browser. does it output any errors?
[20:27] <nate> tomreyn: 18 LTS.  The only other storage was just the USB installer, the error was only popping up w/ the /dev/sda device when trying to partition it, so it's probably some goofiness in the system itself
[20:28] <tomreyn> oh that's during manual partitioning where it pops up? i see.
[20:29] <tomreyn> i'm indeed not sure why it would do this with the old partition table previously destroyed
[20:32] <nate> Yeah.  Like I said I'm just gonna blame HP lol
[21:57] <Sven_vB> where's the config of onboard (the on screen keyboard) stored?
[21:58] <Sven_vB> my search engine unfortunately thinks I mean mainboards.
[21:59] <sarnold> does it have a manpage that says?
[22:00] <Sven_vB> oh good idea, I'll check
[22:00] <sarnold> you could also try running fatrace before starting it, and see what files it opens at startup
[22:01] <Sven_vB> good idea, too. manpage worked, it shows me I can configure everything I want via CLI, so I don't need to know about the config store anymore. :)
[22:03] <sarnold> Sven_vB: haha :) even better :)
[22:03] <Sven_vB> yeah. thanks! :)
[22:11] <naribia> i have logged out/in and lost the person who suggested it, but I tried  "journalctl -kf" when browsing through folders, no errors
[22:11] <naribia> this is regarding my suddenly very slow ubuntu 18.04 computer
[22:11] <naribia> I do get errors when opening firefox, however
[22:12] <sarnold> naribia: that was tomreyn
[22:12] <naribia> ah, thanks
[22:14] <Sven_vB> is there a way to exclude certain wifi adapters from NetworkManagers interference with rfkill?
[22:14] <Sven_vB> I want to have some of them enabled, but on lots of occasions NM tries to be extra helpful in synchronizing them to all on or all off.
[22:22] <revolutionary> Hey!
[22:23] <revolutionary> My timezone is Moscow but on the other hand i downloaded and installed English Firefox and also my OS's language is English but Firefox is showing Russian results in Google, Yahoo and other websites. How can i fix this?
[22:23] <tomreyn> naribia: can you post    journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:23] <cocof> how I can see a content of a repository such as ppa:ondrej/php
[22:23] <sarnold> revolutionary: quite often websites will serve language-specific results based on ip geo databases
[22:24] <nate> Ah this laptop is gonna be an aneurysm.  Now damned airplane mode is stuck on cause apparently, surprise surprise there are issues with HP laptops and ubuntu/debian lol
[22:24] <sarnold> revolutionary: sometimes you can encourage the right behaviour by configuring the browser's Accept languages headers..
[22:24] <revolutionary> How can i prevent Russian results?
[22:24] <revolutionary> thanks sarnold
[22:25] <sarnold> revolutionary: check out the firefox preferences "Choose your preferred language for displaying pages
[22:25] <revolutionary> let me check sarnold
[22:25] <sarnold> setting.. it's just a hint from the browser to the server, and way too often website operators are idiots
[22:25] <cocof> or lörn rüssian :D
[22:25] <OerHeks> cocof, look at the launchpad page? https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php
[22:25] <jeremy31> nate post URL for this command in terminal>  cat /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:26] <tomreyn> revolutionary: 4th paragraph on about:preferences#general
[22:26] <revolutionary> sarnold i checked and just English. There is no Russian option selected. :thinking:
[22:26] <OerHeks> cocof, if you have a desktop on that machine, synaptic can filter that source easily
[22:27] <sarnold> revolutionary: sometimes folks use VPNs and select exit points in the countries they'd like to use.. eg pick an american or canadian or british exit point to get english
[22:27] <sarnold> revolutionary: but that entire industry creeps me out.
[22:27] <tomreyn> revolutionary: google picks your locale by ip address, but there should be options to override it on the website. to have google display a localization neutral frontend, access google.com/ncr (no country resolver)
[22:28] <cocof> OerHeks: its a server, how I can see which ip aptitude request to access this repository?
[22:28] <sarnold> COOL
[22:28] <OerHeks> grep ^Package: /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_*_Packages
[22:28] <OerHeks> something like that?
[22:28] <nate> jeremy31: Unfortunately the laptop is not on IRC at the moment so pasting the URL cross-system is a bit difficult, that said all 3 entries (Networking, Wireless and WWAN) flags are set true.  Hard-wired networking is okay, bluetooth seems to be missing (looks to be a driver issue) and wifi is locked in airplane mode.  Googled results say to check BIOS, but BIOS has no options for this
[22:28] <revolutionary> i don't use google services and i am not logged in. i am trying to an option for override this but no luck.
[22:29] <nate> another said to do some key trickery to enable the airplane key on the keyboard but that didn't do anything either, still googling around using any debian/ubuntu reference I can find
[22:29] <jeremy31> nate anything blocked in this command> rfkill list
[22:29] <nate> jeremy31: Nup, unfortunately using rfkill to try and force it doesn't do anything either :/
[22:30] <OerHeks> cocof, which ip aptitude request to access this repository .. that is an other question,  find ip of launchpad
[22:30] <nate> Oh wait sorry misread, yeah it says hard blocked
[22:30] <nate> Which matches the GUI interface telling me that it's "hardware enabled"
[22:30] <jeremy31> nate, is there a wifi switch?
[22:31] <nate> There's a key on the laptop (the F12 action key) but it doesn't trip anything, even after adding some extra service handling that was supposed to be a fix for it
[22:31] <nate> All other action keys work however so it doesn't seem to be an issue explicitly with action keys
[22:31] <donofrio> is anyone working on a lubuntu for ppc (even if just a small group) would like to get 18.04 if possable even though not quite needed yet would be nice
[22:31] <jeremy31> nate, what interface is the block on?  Is it after phy0 or hp-wifi?
[22:32] <nate> phy0, there is no hp-wifi, phy0 is the only wifi adapter listed.
[22:33] <revolutionary> hey. i give up for Firefox. When i try to view date from the right on the address bar it is showing date and days on Russian but system language is English. Just timezone is Moscow. Is there any option to not leak timezone? Or how can i view date/time on English?
[22:34] <cocof> ty
[22:35] <jeremy31> nate, I would reboot it and go into BIOS settings and see if resetting to defaults will reset that
[22:38] <nate> jeremy31: Been there and done that, but the BIOS for this laptop literally doesn't even have options for any sort of networking control.  It might be worth of note, I had to install and currently run this with ACPI set to off, could that impact the network read?
[22:38] <nate> Though I would feel like that would cause it to hard-lock it to off, not on
[22:40] <jeremy31> nate, it doesn't need to have any networking settings in the BIOS, the ACPI might have something to do with it.  Do you know what wifi device is there?
[22:41] <nate> Let me see if I can pull it up from spec sheets
[22:44] <jeremy31> nate, check in terminal>  lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 net
[22:45] <Gallomimia> wow, my system magically and suddenly and unexplainedly boots from its encrypted boot volume. that's great!
[22:45] <nate> Yeah just pulled that, just gotta type it out lol; Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev c3)
[22:45] <nate> Interestingly it appears to be a dual wifi and bluetooth adapter, so it's odd that the bluetooth isn't showing present at all as I'd expect the drivers to be enabling both
[22:46] <Gallomimia> but it still hangs. it shows a list of tasks started and stopped, and near the end it says "hold until boot process is completed" it stays on that screen until i flip to a different tty and back. how can i get it to stop doing that?
[22:46] <jeremy31> nate I think the bluetooth will have and 8087 ID in lsusb
[22:46] <tomreyn> revolutionary: check the output of the "locale" command, running as the same system user firefox runs as
[22:46] <cocof> when I execute add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php it says press enter and after I do it, nothing happen
[22:46] <cocof> Error: retrieving gpg key timed out.
[22:47] <cocof> I did added launch pad IPs, going to recheck
[22:47] <nate> Yeah I just meant the devicename (I grep'd lspci -k for 'wireless'), devicename shows up as Intel Wireless AC 7260 802.11 ac 2x2 Wifi + BT 4.0 combo adapter
[22:48] <cocof> OerHeks: it seems it want to connect to yet another IP to get gpg key?
[22:48] <jeremy31> nate that info comes from a user contributed database, that info can be wrong
[22:49] <tomreyn> cocof: it may receive GPG keys from keyserver.ubuntu.com
[22:49] <nate> jeremy31: Ah, well for a laptop I wouldn't put it past it, though there seems to be a lot showing up now when I search 7260 Intel w/ Ubuntu/Debian
[22:49] <Bashing-om> cocof: ? Did you "sudo" ? in order to alter the system files.
[22:50] <nate> jeremy31: I apparently just came across a forum post from you years ago relating to this same chipset on a dell lol, gonna try your suggestions in there
[22:50] <jeremy31> nate, there are a lot of variations of the 7260 Intel wifi card, not all have bluetooth.  The one I had with bluetooth had device ID 8087:07dc in lsusb results
[22:51] <cocof> subdomain ppa.launchpad is on diff ip <IP_ADDRESS> :)
[22:52] <nate> Ah unfortunately the recommendation in there was to blacklist one of the wifi adapters, of which I only have one to begin with... hrm
[22:52] <nate> (or well one of the wifi drivers)
[22:53] <OerHeks> cocof, that switch would be keyserver?
[22:54] <jeremy31> nate what model HP?
[23:01] <tomreyn> OerHeks: turns out the apt-add-repository --keyserver option is legacy, unused (according to python source in 18.04)
[23:01] <tomreyn> cocof: ^
[23:03] <tomreyn> or just --help :)
[23:14] <naribia> tomreyn: I keep getting disconnected from freenode, idky, anyways not sure if you responded to my termbin regarding journalctl -b output, thanks
[23:15] <nate> jeremy31: Envy x360 15-U111DX
[23:16] <tomreyn> naribia: it doesn't seem that it ever made it here
[23:16] <naribia> tomreyn: I sent it as a pm, I'll send it again
[23:16] <tomreyn> naribia: oh, i drop those by default
[23:16] <naribia> oh I see
[23:17] <tomreyn> naribia: if you prefer not to post it here, you can pm now.
[23:17] <naribia> thanks
[23:19] <tomreyn> naribia: got it. it'll take me around 10 minutes to review this and look for a potential cause for "suddenly very slow ubuntu 18.04 computer"
[23:20] <naribia> tomreyn: alright cool, thanks for the help
[23:27] <naribia> tomreyn: it's looking like the issue might just be with firefox
[23:32] <tomreyn> naribia: unfortunately not, you seem to have a broken disk there
[23:33] <tomreyn> first line in your log: Sep 26 15:53:12 nixa kernel: ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x900382 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
[23:33] <tomreyn> this is /dev/sdb
[23:35] <tomreyn> this disk was trying to reallocate data away from those broken sectors, but this failed, suggesting that it has already spent all of its spare sectors for this purpose in the past.
[23:39] <tomreyn> naribia: and (unrelated) you're literally on the first ever bios version for this board (P1.20 04/23/2014). updates at: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H97%20Pro4/#BIOS - you also have some ACPI memory range conflicts, which might go away by upgrading.
[23:40] <naribia> oh....
[23:42] <tomreyn> impressive how asrock "add[ed] NVME support" to the BIOS not once, not twice, but five times according to the changelog.
[23:46] <naribia> ah
[23:47] <tomreyn> naribia: you have backups, right?
[23:47] <naribia> of important stuff, yes
[23:48] <Gallomimia> uh hey...
[23:49] <Gallomimia> this sounds really bad: Sep 26 17:31:08 draco-lambda udisksd[1509]: failed to load module mdraid: libbd_mdraid.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[23:49] <tomreyn> naribia: good. if you want to try and recover data you'd need a separate storage the same or larger size as the largest partition on sdb, then use ddrescue to create an image of these partitions on the other storage.
[23:50] <tomreyn> Gallomimia: yes it does, but it really isn't
[23:50] <Gallomimia> oh. well, i'm hunting my boot journal for reasons that it hangs in boot
[23:50] <cocof> whats the easy way to disable potentially harmful downloads blocking in chromium? i did search for safe browsing in settings, nothing
[23:51] <Gallomimia> the message it shows in the screen where it hangs is: hold until boot process finishes up
[23:51] <Gallomimia> and then if i press ctrl+alt+f2 then back to ctrl+alt+f1 it boots normally
[23:52] <Gallomimia> my google search seems to have revealed a mixbag of causes for this error
[23:52] <tomreyn> Gallomimia: does it ever finish though? does      systemd-analyze critical-chain      produce non error output ?
[23:53] <tomreyn> cocof: probably the icon to the left of the url
[23:54] <Gallomimia> it does finish. i'm booted now. but it only does so if i flip tty's within a few seconds of the hang
[23:54] <Gallomimia> that command you asked for gives a pretty big screen full of mess
[23:55] <Gallomimia> wanna see?
[23:56] <tomreyn> Gallomimia: sure, if you can paste it to a pastebin
[23:57] <Gallomimia> tomreyn, https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/M55Tf7QbBY/
[23:57] <tomreyn> Gallomimia: and now    systemd-analyze blame    as well
[23:59] <tomreyn> systemd-journal-flush.service took a long time during this latest boot (~14 seconds), but this doesn't usually run.
[23:59] <Gallomimia> hmmmmm.


[01:02] <ckontros> Hey guys. Im Cory former lead for Ubuntu Studio. Im coming back for a cycle. I tried to upload changes to one or our branches on LP and cant. Are you guys going through the same thing. Is something frozen this early in the cycle?
[01:03] <ckontros> I noticed all the branches are owned by james-w and not the -dev team.
[01:04] <charlie-tca> I don't think it is open yet
[01:05] <ckontros> Thats the only thing I was thinking.
[01:05] <charlie-tca> Toolchain upload is due May 5
[01:06] <ckontros> So I may be trying to work a bit early.
[01:06] <charlie-tca> possible
[01:06] <charlie-tca> I can't say for sure
[01:51] <ottod> I just logged on to this channel to congratulate the Xubuntu developers for their 11.04 release. It is the best so far for me, even better than main version.
[01:52] <knome> ottod, thanks.
[15:11] <charlie-tca> Good morning