[18:20] <mudkip908> shadej: try asking in a java channel
[18:21] <shadej> mudkip908: i did
[18:21] <mudkip908> shadej: what did they tell you?
[18:22] <shadej> they told me to make my program setuid
[18:23] <mudkip908> shadej: chmod +s program
[18:23] <shadej> mudkip908: i have done that
[18:23] <mudkip908> shadej: what's the error message?
[18:23] <xubuntu> any1 here know how to create a hard drive partition in ubuntu
[18:23] <afief> I am trying to decide on a graphics card, does anybody know if the Radeon 7770 is any good on Linux?
[18:23] <mudkip908> nathanesau1: install gparted and use it
[18:24] <shadej> mudkip908: there is not any error message nor correct result
[18:24] <nathanesau1> i am - but it says that my disc size is 698 gb and used is 698 gb
[18:24] <nathanesau1> and so i cant resize it
[18:24] <nathanesau1> by the way its not even close to full
[18:24] <SuRfDaEmOn> usr13: at least now I know it wasn't anything my script was doing, i can live with that.
[18:25] <shadej> am sure that i have made the program to be setuid because it is running as admin with out sudo when i issue it from command line
[18:25] <mudkip908> shadej: chown root:root program
[18:25] <ganeshran> Does ubuntu support UEFI booting?
[18:25] <nathanesau1> is there any alternative to gparted?
[18:25] <OerHeks> nathanesau1, make sure the disk is unmounted, so use a live cd or something
[18:25] <auronandace> !uefi | ganeshran
[18:25] <nathanesau1> im using a live cd
[18:25] <nathanesau1> I CANNOT unmount it
[18:25] <OerHeks> !uefi | ganeshran
[18:25] <shadej> mudkip908: wha tis that
[18:25] <mudkip908> nathanesau1: yes you can, that's the point of using a livecd
[18:26] <nathanesau1> NO, you dont understand
[18:26] <nathanesau1> i dont have a linux swap
[18:26] <ganeshran> auronandace: my kepboard doesnt work after I booted in UEFI
[18:26] <mudkip908> shadej: changes the owner of the file to root, you need to do it if you want to use setuid(0)
[18:26] <mudkip908> nathanesau1: swapoff <partition>
[18:26] <nathanesau1> all i have it a fat32 (200mb) and lvm2 pv (698 gb)
[18:26] <mudkip908> nathanesau1: ohh. sorry i've no idea about lvm
[18:26] <Marlenes> OerHeks : what is the programme that can guess the right command == http://bpaste.net/show/rxHu48bNK2TK2aY9Egyu/
[18:27] <ganeshran> auronandace: I had installed with GRUB and MBR but switched to GPT and EFI bootloader. But my existing Ubuntu installation stopped working. It boots fine but the keyboard and mouse dont work o.O
[18:27] <OerHeks> Marlenes, i don't know.
[18:27] <nathanesau1> mudkip908 the lwm2 pv was automatically created when i installed xubuntu
[18:27] <auronandace> ganeshran: i have never used uefi so i won't be of help
[18:27] <OerHeks> Marlenes, <tab> completion will help sometimes
[18:27] <shadej> mudkip908: that destroyed the setuid bit
[18:27] <mudkip908> shadej: chmod +s it again then
[18:28] <nathanesau1> /dev/sda3 lvm2 pv xubuntu-vg 698.21gb 698.21gb unused 0
[18:28] <ganeshran> auronandace: ok thanks
[18:28] <ganeshran> Anyone else has an idea if switching to UEFI for an existing ubuntu installation would impact it?
[18:28] <mudkip908> nathanesau1: like I said, i've never even touched lvm. you should ask someone who has used it
[18:29] <mudkip908> nathanesau1: regular partitions are confusing enough a;)
[18:29] <nathanesau1> BUT mudkip it did that by DEFAULT
[18:29] <nathanesau1> when i installed xubuntu 13.04
[18:29] <shadej> mudkip908: nothing changed
[18:29] <shadej> it seems it is java's problem
[18:30] <mudkip908> shadej: also are you sure nmap needs to be suid?
[18:30] <high_fiver> nathanesau1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[18:30] <mudkip908> nathanesau1: look in /dev/mapper maybe?
[18:31] <shadej> mudkip908: yeah that is what i am changing
[18:31] <high_fiver> nathanesau1, there are directions to resize here, volume must be unmounted
[18:31] <shadej> mudkip908: does my java program need same thing too?
[18:31] <mudkip908> shadej: but nmap works without suid
[18:31] <shadej> mudkip908: the -PR option needs that
[18:32] <mudkip908> shadej: ohh i see. Does java have a setuid() function?
[18:32] <shadej> mudkip908: i don know
[18:33] <shadej> mudkip908: i am just calling p = r.exec(" nmap -PR "+client);
[18:33] <mudkip908> shadej: try this  p = r.exec("su -c \"nmap -PR "+client+"\"");
[18:34] <mudkip908> shadej: http://blog.tinola.com/?e=7
[18:34] <Marlenes> OerHeks : this feature it was work on ubuntu but i dont know what happen to it is seem to me disabled == http://bpaste.net/show/rxHu48bNK2TK2aY9Egyu/
[18:34] <shadej> mudkip908: it throws an exception
[18:36] <mudkip908> shadej: sorry i don't know java. try telling ##java what you want to do and maybe they will be more helpful
[18:36] <nathanesau1> does any1 here know anything about lvm??
[18:37] <shadej> mudkip908: ok
[18:37] <shadej> thanks
[18:37] <high_fiver> nathanesau1, it stands for Logical Volume Manager
[18:37] <stetho> Hi all. I'm trying to get to grips with PXE booting, apt mirror and kickstart - I've got the PXE booting working and if I set an existing machine to do its updates from my local apt-mirror that works as well. However, if I create a ks.cfg file with the line url --url http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntu it fails. The installer says it can't find the mirror, the log says http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntu//dists - 404; I think that double slas
[18:37] <stetho> my problem but I can't figure out where it's coming from.
[18:37] <nathanesau1> i want to resize it high_fiver
[18:37] <high_fiver> nathanesau1, did you try the link I posted?
[18:37] <nathanesau1> it says size "698.21gb" used "698.21gb"
[18:37] <|Anthony|> after a shutdown my nic is now running at 100mbit/s instead of 1000. Any suggestions?
[18:38] <FroMaster> I'm running a performance test on my server but I'm not sure how to check to see if the disk is the bottleneck.. suggestions?
[18:38] <nathanesau1> i am confused high_fiver
[18:38] <nathanesau1> i cant resize it or unmount it
[18:38] <nathanesau1> i dont understand lvm
[18:39] <lenglui> ...ok
[18:39] <lenglui> i am so confused
[18:40] <lenglui> my brother sold my hard drive...
[18:40] <lenglui> and left me with a external harddrive tha thas ubuntu
[18:40] <lenglui> but everytime i boot it
[18:40] <lenglui> it says
[18:40] <q0_0p> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/
[18:40] <q0_0p> Doesn't seem to work
[18:40] <lenglui> "try ubuntu out | install ubuntu onto a drive"
[18:41] <lenglui> its driving me nuts
[18:41] <lenglui> that i can only use a temporary version of ubuntu
[18:41] <q0_0p> Ubuntu on the nexus 7 still supported?
[18:41] <lenglui> and everything gets deleted when i reboot :(
[18:41] <lenglui> please someone have a answer for me
[18:41] <wilee-nilee> q0_0p, try #ubuntu-touch
[18:41] <saiarcot895> lenglui: it sounds like the Live CD is stored on the hard drive
[18:41] <jitse> q0_0p, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/
[18:41] <lenglui> yes sai
[18:42] <lenglui> how do i install it to the harddrive that its already.. on
[18:42] <lenglui> is that possible?
[18:42] <saiarcot895> lenglui: technically, I suppose so
[18:42] <lenglui> its a 1tb hard drive...
[18:42] <lenglui> so i KNOW there is space
[18:42] <Kyzz> Cna someone helpe mw with mounting drives?
[18:42] <X-Sleepy-X> !mount
[18:42] <saiarcot895> lenglui: run through the install, make sure it correctly partitions the drive (so that this partition doesn't get deleted and break your install or something)
[18:43] <lenglui> the install...
[18:43] <Kyzz> I'm currently using i3wm and can't find my external hdd
[18:43] <lenglui> should it take 7 hours?
[18:43] <saiarcot895> lenglui: no
[18:43] <lenglui> how long am i looing at
[18:43] <lenglui> because... i tried installing
[18:43] <lenglui> and after 7 hours
[18:43] <FloodBot1> lenglui: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:43] <saiarcot895> lenglui: 1, maybe 2 hours should be enough
[18:43] <lenglui> gee soorrry floodbot.
[18:44] <saiarcot895> lenglui: does it stop at a specific point?
[18:44] <lenglui> but the problem i have is there is a hard drive in my pc it just doesnt work...
[18:44] <lenglui> and the install keeps trying to install to that broken hard drive
[18:44] <Increase> Hello everyone. I was wondering if someone familiar with USB wireless adapters could help me.
[18:44] <lenglui> should i just take that out? im sscared to.. im only 14 and no tech genius
[18:44] <high_fiver> lenglui, depends on disk speed - if your reading and writing from the same disk it will take twice as long as normal
[18:44] <X-Sleepy-X> !enter | lenglui
[18:44] <high_fiver> lenglui, you may want to make a live USB stick
[18:45] <islandmonkey> nevyn: You still there?
[18:45] <BluesKaj> lenglui, do you know how to make the working HDD default in the bios ?
[18:45] <lenglui> it doesnt work
[18:45] <lenglui> there isnt a working hddd. thats why i need the external hard drive
[18:45] <lenglui> right now im on "try ubuntu out" mode
[18:46] <lenglui> and everytime i reboot, i lose all settings/everything
[18:46] <Increase> Hello everyone. I was wondering if someone familiar with USB wireless adapters could help me.
[18:46] <BluesKaj> lenglui, then make the external drive the default , aslong as it's connected when you boot up , it should show in the bios
[18:46] <lenglui> yeah it is the default thats how im booted on the try it out
[18:47] <lenglui> but how do i install the full version onto the external hard drive do anybody know??
[18:47] <saiarcot895> lenglui: I think you'll have to download the iso file, but installing from another USB or CD is probably the best option
[18:47] <lenglui> i got a cd to put it on now
[18:47] <lenglui> thankfully...
[18:48] <BluesKaj> the try out isn't a live cd or usb ?
[18:48] <Shloop> I moused over auto clear and clicked it. Now when i look at the drive, it's a clean version of all the linux kernels. Obviously it's over written my information, but did it really? It was way too quick.
[18:48] <saiarcot895> BluesKaj: it's booting off of the hard drive itself
[18:48] <saiarcot895> BluesKaj: the Live CD is on the hard drive
[18:48] <lenglui> i put the ISO on the ext and ...yeah
[18:49] <lenglui> thats how im running ubuntu is "Try it out" mode
[18:49] <lenglui> so if i put it on a disc
[18:49] <BluesKaj> never heard of that unlkess it's wubi
[18:49] <lenglui> it IS wubi
[18:49] <lenglui> thats what i downloaded... im 14 so i dont know my stuff here.... but my hdd crashed
[18:50] <BluesKaj> ahh then you should always tell it's wubi , not the same as alive media
[18:50] <lenglui> lost microsoft windows 8... since then ive been learning bit by bit. now enough to get on xchat on ubuntu to ask people who know something...
[18:50] <X-Sleepy-X> !install | lenglui you might find some useful information regarding external drives here
[18:51] <lenglui> my dad wont pay for a new version of windows so i need ubuntu ... and it is growing on me with the weird way it works
[18:52] <lenglui> im gona have to boot this off
[18:52] <lenglui> to use my brothers pc which is... xp
[18:52] <BluesKaj> nothing weird about ubuntu ...windows is the weird OS
[18:52] <lenglui> try to move the iso onto a dvd
[18:52] <lenglui> is that what you think i should do?
[18:53] <saiarcot895> lenglui: that's what I would do
[18:53] <saiarcot895> lenglui: my guess is that Ubuntu is excluding the current 1TB hard drive since it's running off of that
[18:54] <lenglui> ok
[18:54] <lenglui> im gona try it
[18:54] <lenglui> :DD THANKS LOADS!
[18:55] <Artemis3> lenglui, i like thumbdrives more (less waste, more speed) but yes
[18:56] <Shloop> I accidentally clicked auto clear in the disks app. Now whenever i mount and open the HDD, all I see are folders for ubuntu. Did it really delete all my information that quickly? It wasn't more than a second.
[18:58] <Candroth> Last try: I'm getting a looping error on starting up my netbook and I'm trying to get into recovery mode. What I see on the wiki page is different from what my computer does (namely I don't see a recovery mode option). Where do I go from here?
[18:59] <saiarcot895> Candroth: do you get a menu (typically purple background) to load Ubuntu?
[18:59] <kreso> hello?
[18:59] <Candroth> The purple background loads, I can move the cursor for a second, the Ubuntu logo pops up, and it starts looping the 'cannot write bytes: broken pipe' error
[18:59] <Shloop> wow this place used to be a lot more helpful
[18:59] <whoever> kresoa hello
[18:59] <Shloop> what happened lol
[19:00] <islandmonkey> kreso: Hey there
[19:00] <kreso> oy, people. just got my ubuntu, still finding my ways around it
[19:00] <saiarcot895> Shloop: I can't find the auto-clear you're talking about
[19:00] <kreso> question
[19:01] <ikonia> kreso: try being polite
[19:01] <ikonia> kreso: rather than "oy people"
[19:01] <meta4> anyone else have a broken system after recent upgrade on 12.4LTS?
[19:01] <ikonia> meta4: forgot other peoples problem, state your problem
[19:01] <Candroth> I've had no luck holding Shift (as the wiki suggests), or ctrl-alt-f1 as other places have suggested; if I hit ESC I get into a setup menu but I still don't see a recovery mode option anywhere.
[19:02] <kreso> i'm sorry, didn't mean to be disrespectful
[19:02] <saiarcot895> Candroth: does it make a difference if you hold the right Shift button?
[19:02] <meta4> working 12.4 system last night; auto-update runs; now networking is broken
[19:02] <Candroth> I did think of that.  I tried left Shift, right Shift, both Shift -- nothing.
[19:02] <ikonia> meta4: can you expand more and clearer than "networking is broken"
[19:03] <Candroth> ESC is the only key that seems to do anything, and that puts me into a Setup menu that doesn't look like the GIS results for 'gnu grub menu'
[19:03] <meta4> it trys to do a DHCP auto-negotiate and fails
[19:03] <ikonia> meta4: ok, so is this wired or wireless ?
[19:03] <islandmonkey> kreso: Anyway, what's your question?
[19:04] <islandmonkey> Can anyone please explain why JACK is refusing to load? http://pastebin.com/qsaqVKL7
[19:04] <meta4>  rebooting with earlier kernel version yeilds same issue
[19:04] <kreso> my laptop overheated and crashed while updating
[19:04] <Candroth> Being as linux-noobish as I am, am I better off trying to create a boot-USB through my Windows box and loading that instead to try fixing it?
[19:04] <meta4> sorry, wireed
[19:04] <ikonia> islandmonkey: jack server is missing, not running, hence why the socket file is missing
[19:04] <kreso> after cooling it, tried to turn it back on. worked, until it crashed again.
[19:04] <Shloop> saiarcot895 http://i.imgur.com/qF9LkH9.png
[19:05] <meta4> the NIC is fine; works in XP and netbsd
[19:05] <Candroth> (This may have started because of a system update I started and then aborted. I'm not sure, like I said, supernoob.)
[19:05] <kreso> it usually overheats and all, but never this much
[19:05] <ikonia> meta4: what is the interface name ?
[19:05] <meta4> eth0
[19:05] <kreso> how much damage has been done? (if any)
[19:05] <ikonia> meta4: so what happens if you do "sudo dhclient eth0" ?
[19:05] <saiarcot895> Candroth: are you able to boot into a Live CD/USB?
[19:06] <meta4> dunno; haven't tried that; brb
[19:06] <Candroth> I haven't tried yet saiarcot895 because I don't have a Live boot option yet. That's what I"m wondering if I should create.
[19:07] <saiarcot895> Shloop: I think that just unmounts whatever is there, because ISO files are mounted on a loop device
[19:07] <saiarcot895> Shloop: that being said, it seems you were mounting something that is in a CD drive
[19:07] <stetho> Hi all. I'm trying to get to grips with PXE booting, apt mirror and kickstart - I've got the PXE booting working and if I set an existing machine to do its updates from my local apt-mirror that works as well. However, if I create a ks.cfg file with the line url --url http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntu it fails. The installer says it can't find the mirror, the log says http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntu//dists - 404; I think that double slas
[19:07] <stetho> my problem but I can't figure out where it's coming from.
[19:08] <Shloop> saiarcot895 hmm that's weird. I haven't loaded anything from a CD drive. The only thing I was trying to mount is a HDD
[19:08] <saiarcot895> Candroth: my guess is that there's some missing package in Ubuntu or there's a hardware problem, but I'm not sure how to resolve it from a live CD
[19:09] <meta4> lol - now the stupid thing is working; I'd done nothing but reboot the fucker 6+ times
[19:09] <ikonia> meta4: there is no need for that language
[19:09] <meta4> whatever; bye
[19:10] <saiarcot895> Shloop: actually it might not be on a CD drive; I'm just going based on the location "/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squash"
[19:10] <Candroth> I could understand that guess sairacot895; I tried doing a bunch of updates last night and it hung or errored out (I'm honestly not sure), maybe that fubared something?
[19:10] <phong_> hi guys
[19:15] <Candroth> Eh, I'll try working on a Live/recovery USB and work my way from there.  Trial and error, I guess -- if nothing else works, I'll back up the files I want to keep and reformat. This is my first Linux in ten years, I won't let it beat me
[19:15] <Candroth> I've been invited to dinner with some folks, so I'm off for now.
[19:15] <anildigital> Anyone know keyboard shortcut to open app launcher on xfce?
[19:15] <bali> hello friends, i have LTS 12.04 64-bit installed on a AMD 64-bit system with 4GB RAM.  But my 'System Details' in settings is showing only '3.3 GB' of RAM.  Why is 64bit OS not showing all 4GB of RAM?
[19:17] <HisaoNakai> anildigital - App launcher? Do you mean Run? Alt+F2 does that, in that case.
[19:17] <ikonia> bali: can you show me the output of "uname -a" please.
[19:17] <bali> ikonia: sure, just a sec
[19:18] <OerHeks> bali most likely the onboard videocard is enabled
[19:18] <ikonia> OerHeks: 900mb would be an agressive onboard card
[19:18] <saiarcot895> ikonia: 700 MB
[19:18] <ikonia> ?
[19:18] <bali> ikonia: output of 'uname -a' http://pastebin.com/BAyTEwTY
[19:19] <HisaoNakai> anildigital - If it doesn't, making keyboard shortcuts in XFCE is super easy, go to the menu -> settings -> settings manager -> keyboard -> application shortcuts tab.
[19:19] <saiarcot895> ikonia: 4 GB-3.3 GB=0.7 GB=700 MB
[19:19] <ikonia> saiarcot895: oh 3.3,
[19:19] <ikonia> I thought he said 3.1
[19:19] <ikonia> bali: ok, thats great can you now do the output of the command "free" please and put it in a pastebin please.
[19:19] <saiarcot895> regardless, it would still be pretty heavy-duty
[19:19] <HisaoNakai> anildigital - समझे जी ? :)
[19:19] <bali> OerHeks: correct, this is a low end AMD APU,  E1-2100
[19:19] <samX> hello again all, i'm back with the question about my sd card reader rts5116 PCI Express card reader.  so i screwed up my system again last night working on some video issues i was having and had to reinstall again.  When i first install 12.04, the card reader works fine.  but after updates, it's gone.  anyone have any thoughts?
[19:20] <daftykins> samX: is it the kernel doing it, or a package?
[19:20] <samX> i tried removing the old kernel files that weren't being used, but that did not resolve.
[19:20] <bali> ikonia: output of 'free' : http://pastebin.com/3J7NqyFs
[19:21] <samX> so i don't "think" it's kernel related, but i don't know.
[19:21] <anildigital> HisaoNakai: hindi?
[19:21] <daftykins> samX: have you tried booting an older kernel?
[19:21] <HisaoNakai> anildigital - yeah :)
[19:21] <lotia> hello all. when attempting to set up a source package for a ppa is there a way to satisfy build dependencies using other ppa packages?
[19:21] <samX> I have not
[19:21] <samX> i'm just afraid of screwing up my system again, lol.
[19:21] <saiarcot895> lotia: more of a question for #launchpad, but yes
[19:21] <ikonia> bali: ok, so that's clearly showing 3.4GB of ram, so either something like your video card is using 600mb of ram (check the bios - this is very unlikely though) or you've actually got less ram than you think
[19:21] <samX> i found a temp fix once while google'ing the issue, but can't seem to find that fix
[19:22] <lotia> saiarcot895: thanks
[19:22] <samX> i've tried manual install of drivers
[19:23] <samX> i'm thinking that maybe it's a linking issue.  but i don't know at this point.
[19:23] <OerHeks> bali, this command tells more about CPU memory consumption > grep -i --color memory /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:24] <OerHeks> c/GPU
[19:24] <Ziber> If I do "du -s * | sort -rn", I want to make the file sizes more readable, in like GB or something. Can I use xargs for this somehow?
[19:24] <ikonia> Ziber: du -h
[19:24] <bali> OerHeks: 'grep -i --color memory /var/log/Xorg.0.log' shows no output...
[19:24] <Ziber> Yes, but then if I sort -rn, it disregards the G vs K, etc.
[19:24] <shadej> I want to run nmap as a root from a java program
[19:25] <shadej> to do that i have made the nmap program to be setuid program
[19:25] <samX> i guess, at this point, i'm just trying to figure out the cause.  I don't know if i should post a bug report on the issue or not.
[19:25] <shadej> how can i run it now?
[19:25] <chverma79> hello
[19:25] <daftykins> samX: just booting an older kernel as a one time thing won't do any damage. try it.
[19:25] <chverma79> can anyone hear me
[19:25] <daftykins> samX: locate the offending update package that breaks things by updating slowly maybe, though it could likely just be the kernel change
[19:26] <saiarcot895> chverma79: no, but we can see your messages
[19:26] <shadej> mudkip908: i have got a native library to seuid
[19:26] <chverma79> lol
[19:26] <HisaoNakai> chverma79 बोलीये भाईसाहब ।
[19:26] <chverma79> thanks
[19:26] <shadej> can help now please
[19:26] <Ziber> ikonia: ?
[19:26] <HisaoNakai> lol saiarcot895
[19:26] <trism> Ziber: but sort -h will sort by those human readable values
[19:26] <chverma79> HisaoNakai: great so you a pro
[19:26] <saiarcot895> HisaoNakai: this is an English channel; there's a separate channel for Hindi
[19:26] <chverma79> whois HisaoNakai
[19:27] <mudkip908> shadej: chown root:root binary then chmod +s binary
[19:27] <chverma79> lol
[19:27] <HisaoNakai> chverma79 - great.
[19:27] <ikonia> Ziber: ahh, I see, I missed that the sort was stipping that
[19:27] <chverma79> new to linux
[19:27] <Ziber> Hey, thanks!
[19:27] <Ziber> sort -rh does the trick
[19:27] <shadej> mudkip908: is that to nmap or to my java program?
[19:27] <chverma79> and nice cool lxde mint 15
[19:27] <HisaoNakai> saiarcot895 - There isn't and well, lots of English impaired people from India, so I figured I'd help. I'll stop if it's against rules :(
[19:27] <mudkip908> shadej: to your native binary
[19:27] <HisaoNakai> (saiarcot895 not to the best of my knowledge)
[19:28] <samX> is there an easy way to do that if i've removed the old kernel files in an attempt to fix it thinking it was regarding upgrading the kernel?
[19:28] <mudkip908> shadej: PM me a description of what your program is supposed to do
[19:28] <saiarcot895> HisaoNakai: my bad; there's a channel for India, but not necessarily for Hindi
[19:28] <bali> ikonia: the output of 'sudo dmidecode -t 6' shows that DIMM1 has 4096 MB RAM. http://pastebin.com/y9Gv5ruG
[19:28] <HisaoNakai> saiarcot895 - Yeah, they insist on English, although not without reason :)
[19:28] <shadej> mudkip908: ping hosts that ignore ping requests
[19:28] <ikonia> bali: as crazy as it sounds then, I wonder if your video card is using 600mb
[19:29] <ya> hi everyone, anybody using R here? I am having trouble install the MATRIX package on lubuntu 13.04. Any suggestions?
[19:29] <HisaoNakai> !ubottu package
[19:29] <daftykins> samX: so you've only got the upgraded kernel on right now?
[19:29] <HisaoNakai> !package
[19:29] <mudkip908> shadej: and you're making it in java because you want a nice GUI?
[19:29] <Ichabod_Kader> Hello everyone, Ichabod_Kaderhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[19:29] <chverma79> !bot
[19:29] <HisaoNakai> !package ttf-indic-otf
[19:29] <Ziber> What's a good, recommended way to rotate logs based on size?
[19:29] <jitse> shadej, Why setuid java programs don't work: http://blog.tinola.com/?e=7
[19:29] <ikonia> Ziber: logrotate can do it
[19:30] <Ziber> Hm. Okay.
[19:30] <mudkip908> HisaoNakai: it probably has a different name on ubuntu
[19:30] <bali> ikonia: i can understand the GPU memory hole in 32-bit OS, but is it possible in 64-bit?
[19:30] <samX> correct.  my thought was maybe something with the old kernel was hanging on to the driver map causing the issue, so i tried removing all the old kernel files not being used and reinstalling the drivers.
[19:30] <ikonia> bali: it's not a hole
[19:30] <chverma79> can anyone tell me whats all this logs
[19:30] <chverma79> and what are people randomly discussing????
[19:30] <OerHeks> Bali, any chance you have windows 8 32 bit installed next to ubuntu? with fastboot enabled?
[19:30] <ikonia> bali: if your onboard card is setup to use 600mb (that's wild if it is) then that's where your missing ram is
[19:30] <shadej> mudkip908: no because i need to use database
[19:31] <ikonia> chverma79: it's an ubuntu support channel - nothing random here
[19:31] <chverma79> ikonia: hmm
[19:31] <saiarcot895> chverma79: there are about 3 different threads happening at the same time
[19:31] <bali> OerHeks: Yes i have win 8, i disabled fast boot.
[19:31] <daftykins> samX: a kernel won't be doing anything just sat on the disk. just reinstall it with apt and boot in
[19:31] <ikonia> OerHeks: curious to your thoughts as you seem to have something in your head on this
[19:31] <chverma79> saiarcot895: real fast troubleshooting guys
[19:32] <chverma79> real nice
[19:32] <bali> OerHeks: perhaps i will double check...
[19:32] <OerHeks> bali ok that could do some nasty stuff to your hardwareconfig, as it remembers your windows settings
[19:32] <BlueEagle> !ot | chverma79
[19:32] <samX> Ok, thank you, i'll try that later tonight.  i would just like to get the SD card working again because i have an install of rosetta stone i was working on sitting on it that i would like to run in wine.
[19:32] <bali> OerHeks: brb, going for a reboot.
[19:32] <OerHeks> ikonia, these 2 things are the only ones that come in mind
[19:32] <chverma79> i am happy to connect to irc as my friend
[19:32] <ikonia> OerHeks: I'm all ears
[19:32] <chverma79> BlueEagle: thanks
[19:33] <ggabriel96> hey guys
[19:33] <chverma79> so how do i BlueEagle
[19:33] <ggabriel96> is it possible to make a dualbook on a single virtual machine?
[19:33] <chverma79> ggabriel96: hi
[19:33] <chverma79> yes ggabriel96
[19:33] <ggabriel96> hi chverma79. in virtualbox?
[19:33] <chverma79> yup
[19:33] <jitse> shadej, take a look at nmap4j.sourceforge.net
[19:33] <samX> thanks again for your help. :D
[19:33] <ikonia> ggabriel96: a virtual machine is the same as a physical machine
[19:33] <ikonia> ggabriel96: (in terms of capabilities)
[19:33] <shadej> jitse: for what?
[19:34] <ggabriel96> I know, it's because I don't remember having the option to customize the partitions when installing a system on a virtual machine
[19:34] <HisaoNakai> chverma79 - General IRC tip, try to ask your question in one line. Because clarity ;)
[19:34] <ikonia> ggabriel96: you select that in the installer, it's nothing to do with it being a virtual machine
[19:34] <jitse> shadej, it's a library to call nmap from java programs
[19:34] <jitse> shadej, that's what you're trying to do, right?
[19:35] <shadej> jitse: yeah
[19:35] <ggabriel96> hmmm
[19:35] <ggabriel96> thanks ikonia
[19:36] <shadej> jitse: but will that still ask me for privillege to run nmap with options like -PR
[19:37] <chverma79> thanks a lot i need to learn a lot guys
[19:37] <FuzzyThor> is there a way i can upload a file from my server to a remote ftp web server
[19:37] <jitse> shadej, yes
[19:37] <ikonia> FuzzyThor: by ftp
[19:37] <ggabriel96> see you guys
[19:37] <chverma79> FuzzyThor: if you own the root
[19:37] <ggabriel96> ty everyone
[19:37] <newbie34> I want to match multiline text with grep
[19:37] <ikonia> FuzzyThor: ignore what chverma79 said, it's nothing to do with root
[19:37] <jitse> shadej, you'll need to run the parent application with sudo in order to get the root privileges.
[19:37] <newbie34> Anyone familiar?
[19:37] <shadej> jitse: why i should i add additional overhead?
[19:38] <FuzzyThor> I own my root linux server but i use a remote webhost
[19:38] <ikonia> FuzzyThor: what's the actual problem ?
[19:38] <shadej> jitse: how about making the child application to be setuid
[19:38] <jitse> shadej, you can't do that with java
[19:38] <BlueEagle> newbie34: Do you want . to also match the newline character or are you looking for \n?
[19:39] <jitse> shadej, there's no way to do a setuid with java
[19:39] <FuzzyThor> Well i dont know how i can get files from my server thats in my house to a remote webserver through ftp
[19:39] <shadej> jitse: there is JNA
[19:39] <ikonia> FuzzyThor: use the "ftp" command
[19:39] <newbie34> BlueEagle: dot-match-all would be a good solution, but I didn't find it in grep
[19:40] <BlueEagle> newbie34: If you go to http://regexpal.com/ you can enter sample data there and see how the regex picks up matchers. You may also find very good help in #regex.
[19:40] <FuzzyThor> ikonia yes i used ftp but im not sure how to to write the line
[19:40] <john38> Hello can somebody help me out with scalpel for a sec???
[19:40] <ikonia> FuzzyThor: ftp hostname.of.ftp.server
[19:40] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: text is like 40k lines, kinda big for web apps ... I will also need a replace later
[19:41] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: Well, you would not use the entire production data, only a segment for testing purpouses. Also, in which context is the text being parsed?
[19:42] <Stdedos> xml database, I need to swap path-to-files and delete some
[19:42] <Stdedos> BlueEagle:
[19:42] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: And please do not change nicks in the middle of a conversation. I ignore nick changes in order to keep the channels from scrolling out of control.
[19:42] <jrib> Stdedos: you can use perl regexp with grep and should be able to active dotall
[19:42] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: new version / new computer - my bad
[19:42] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: pcregrep that is?
[19:43] <john38> does anybody know how to use scalpel??
[19:43] <BlueEagle> !anyone | john38
[19:44] <jitse> shadej, that's true, but: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5985597/jni-setuid-question
[19:44] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: So you have a 40K xml file and you want to do a regex search and replace for a multi line text?
[19:44] <john38> When i try to recover files with scalpel it retrieves such a big chunk of the hardrive but the file im trying to retrive isnt that big???
[19:45] <FuzzyThor> ikonia: so i have to have root access to the remote web server i want to upload to
[19:45] <ikonia> FuzzyThor: no, you don't, as I said earlier
[19:45] <jrib> Stdedos: you know there are commands and libraries meant to deal with xml (grep isn't)
[19:45] <Stdedos> yes that is correct, only one line to change, but if they must be deleted, the whole <> </> block must go aswell
[19:45] <Stdedos> jrib: No, as I am a complete firstcommer
[19:46] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: If you pastebin an example of the source blocks and expected result and go to #regex I am sure you will find some help there.
[19:46] <shadej> jitse: that is a lot of work
[19:47] <Stdedos> I am off then BlueEagle! Thanks
[19:47] <shafox> hi I am on dell vostro 2420 series laptop. it was preinstalled with 12.04 ubuntu. i just installed olivia and now my wifi isnot working previously it was working . what to do ??
[19:47] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: But listen to jrib before you go, as he prolly have some nifty XML tools handy for you.
[19:47] <pet2001> filter list
[19:47] <FuzzyThor> ikonia: ok i logged into the ftp. Now i need to copy a file from my server to the remote I dont know what the command is im kind new to ubuntu
[19:48] <daftykins> shafox: olivia as in you installed Linux Mint in place of Ubuntu?
[19:48] <ikonia> FuzzyThor: "put"
[19:48] <ikonia> FuzzyThor: I'd suggest a quick google for "ftp commands"
[19:48] <shafox> daftykins: yes
[19:48] <OerHeks> shafox, "olivia" is a mint codename, mint is not supported here
[19:48] <daftykins> shafox: there's no support for non-Ubuntu here i'm afraid, even if it's 'related'
[19:48] <OerHeks> !mint > shafox
[19:48] <shafox> OerHeks: but you may know how to tackle this i guess
[19:48] <john38> Hello can somebody help me out with scalpel for a sec???
[19:49] <jrib> john38: ask your actual question
[19:49] <chverma79> how to make a usb modem work in linux?
[19:49] <daftykins> john38: ask the full question and you might get a response if someone knows
[19:50] <BlueEagle> !patience | john38
[19:50] <john38> jrib, i installed scalpel ...and i edited the conf.txt to recover only the type of file i want when i go to recover in terminal it recovers almost the size of the whole harddrive
[19:50] <jrib> john38: I still don't see a question, but you should ask the channel
[19:51] <chverma79> how to make a usb modem work in linux?
[19:51] <john38> jrib, my harddrive is 504gb and the file i belive is only 16 or 17gb
[19:51] <chverma79> and even configure proxy in linux
[19:52] <FuzzyThor> ikonia: thanks for the help i was able to upload the file
[19:52] <john38> jrib, how do i recover the file i want without it taking up whole harddrive
[19:52] <mjburgess> hello, i have groupadd svradm, chgrp /etc/hosts  to svradmin, chmod g+w  /etc/hosts   and  usermod -a -G  mjburgess svradm
[19:52] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: No luck so far from jrib
[19:52] <mjburgess> but if i vim /etc/hosts  its still readonly
[19:52] <mjburgess> groups mjburgess  shows svradm
[19:52] <jrib> john38: that is a proper question.  But you should be sure to ask the channel and not me.  I don't know about scalpel.  When you reask (in a few minutes) be sure to ask your question on one line with the details you gave just now
[19:52] <chverma79> and even configure proxy in linux for torrents
[19:53] <mjburgess> ll /etc/hosts  shows root:svradm
[19:53] <jrib> Stdedos: xmlstarlet is the xml tool I know of that you can use from the command line, but it will take some reading/learning
[19:53] <ikonia> mjburgess: changing the permissions on /etc/hosts is a bad idea
[19:53] <ikonia> mjburgess: you also need to restart your shell to get the new group membership
[19:53] <john38> jrib, usually people tell me what i;ve done so far to get a clearer picture
[19:54] <mjburgess> ah, shell restart
[19:54] <jrib> john38: sure, just do it on a single line
[19:54] <mjburgess> well if its root:root to begin with, it can have abitary permissions
[19:54] <ikonia> mjburgess: what ?
[19:54] <john38> How do i recover a specific file in scalpel???
[19:55] <mjburgess> if you need root priviliages to modify a file, then that file can be owned by anyone..
[19:55] <ikonia> mjburgess: sorry, that's not good logic, but do what ever you want
[19:55] <mjburgess> well i've restarted my shell, and it's still readonly
[19:55] <ZIPY> john38: with photorec you can choose filetype to recover, never worked with scalpel tho
[19:56] <ikonia> mjburgess: ls -la /etc/hosts please
[19:56] <mjburgess> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root svradm 229 Aug  2 19:52 /etc/hosts
[19:56] <ikonia> mjburgess: id mjburgess
[19:56] <john38> ZIPY, i know how to search for a specific file type i need to know how to search for specific name and size but thanks...
[19:56] <mjburgess> uid=1000(mjburgess) gid=1000(mjburgess) groups=1000(mjburgess),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),124(sambashare),1001(bumblebee),1002(svradm)
[19:56] <ikonia> mjburgess: how did oyu restart your shell ?
[19:57] <mjburgess> ctrl-d
[19:57] <mjburgess> ctrl-alt-t
[19:57] <ikonia> mjburgess: type "exit" to until it logs you out
[19:57] <ikonia> mjburgess: then log back in and try it
[19:58] <mjburgess> i ALT-F6'd  and it works
[19:58] <mjburgess> must just need to logout
[19:58] <mjburgess> - thanks
[19:58] <Kyzz> I keep getting "NTFS signature not valid while trying to mount an external hdd
[19:58] <ikonia> Kyzz: you need to run chkdisk from a windows host on it
[19:59] <john38> ZIPY, how do i install photorec
[20:00] <Kyzz> ikonia: What will that do?
[20:00] <ikonia> Kyzz: fix the disk
[20:00] <Janika_Dusty> Hello everyone, Janika_Dustyhere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[20:00] <Kyzz> ikonia: Even if nothing is wrong?  I see ntfs parts in it?
[20:00] <ikonia> Kyzz: what ?
[20:01] <ZIPY> john38: apt-get install testdisk
[20:01] <Kyzz> If I view the disk in Ubuntu I see there are parts of it that are NTFS
[20:01] <john38> ZIPY, ok
[20:01] <ZIPY> john38: to run -> sudo photorec
[20:01] <ikonia> Kyzz: ?? it's an ntfs disk, it should be ntfs.
[20:01] <minidino> How would I go about deciding if I should learn vim, vi, or emacs (or mabey even something else)?
[20:02] <ikonia> minidino: well, you'd sit down and think about if you want to learn that
[20:02] <ikonia> minidino: thats how you decide if you want to learn something
[20:02] <minidino> ikonia: I mean like how do they compare?
[20:02] <ikonia> minidino: then you open a browser, and search for each one, noting down the differences / pros cons
[20:03] <john38> ZIPY, i have a 1000gb harddrive but i dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu i dont want to search entire drive just ubuntu partition
[20:03] <john38> ZIPY, it wont allow me to specify linux partition
[20:04] <ChrisMaQ> are there any serious graphic designers here who have migrated fully from windows apps like cs6 and illustrator
[20:05] <chverma79> and even configure proxy in linux for torrents
[20:05] <ZIPY> john38: i just tried, i selected the partition and then go to proceed
[20:05] <john38> ZIPY, ik i did that
[20:05] <ZIPY> what happens when u select the partiton
[20:05] <ZIPY> jumps 1 higher?
[20:06] <john38> ZIPY, do i choose linux or extended
[20:06] <ZIPY> ur linux partition is in the extended i guess so choose linux
[20:06] <jitse> shadej, indeed
[20:08] <shadej> jitse: but one i dont understand is why we need to call setuid function?
[20:08] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: No luck ar #regex
[20:08] <shadej> when we call the program from the command line we dont need to do anything
[20:09] <shadej> but when calling from a program we have to use setuid() why is that necessary?
[20:12] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: Well post a pastebin and I'll see if I can make heads or tails.
[20:13] <chverma79> guys
[20:13] <chverma79> any idea on how to set proxy and the port in linux for torrents
[20:13] <john38> ZIPY, how do i tell to recover only zip files
[20:13] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5945049/
[20:14] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: I assume that is what you have. What is it you want from it?
[20:15] <ZIPY> john38: after choosing the partition choose "file opt" press s to disable all and select .zip, then b to save
[20:15] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: I can write the regex needed to match what I want
[20:15] <Stdedos> I want all my subsequent matches to remove the whole block
[20:16] <alc> hi, i've tried to install ubuntu 13.04, but somewere between bot-repair and reboot, i've lost my windows partitions, and ubuntu's one got damage, could anyone help me recovering at least the windows8 backup ones? bot-repair log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5944101/
[20:16] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: That is not a good enough explination for me to be able to help you.
[20:16] <Taylr0x> Filezilla used to have, I think and please correct me if I am wrong, a sister program for hosting FTP servers. Can someone please remind me what it was? Or recommend one to me if this isn't the case please.
[20:17] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: Help me to elaborate. All I can think of is what I am matching, which is the path to file or the extension
[20:17] <chverma79> alc reinstall the grub bootloader
[20:18] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: So if the value of Filepath occurs more than once then the entire <song> block should be removed?
[20:18] <john38> ZIPY, do i press enter when choosing zip
[20:18] <pet2001> Taylr0x: Filezilla server. It's Windows-only, as far as I know...
[20:18] <jitse> shadej, are you absolutely sure you need nmap -PR?
[20:19] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: If I will need that path removed for a reason, recursively every file belonging there must be removed  - thus every entry of it
[20:19] <Taylr0x> pet2001, I thought that was going to be the case as I recall using it whilst on Windows. Bugger.
[20:19] <alc> chverma79: thanks. but i think it's a worst problem, the only recognized partition is ubuntu's one, i've got 4 hidden partitions acording to gparted, but don't know what else can make
[20:20] <shadej> jitse: if there is another solution to ping host that intensionally ignore ping requests
[20:20] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: So if you want to replace  <Song FilePath="E:\Τα έγγραφά μου\Η μουσική μου\ÓÁÑÌÐÅË\ÐáñÜîåíï Óõíáßóèçìá\11-Σώπα.mp3" FileSize="3667825">
[20:20] <BlueEagle>   <Display Author="ÓáñìðÝë" Title="Óþðá" Genre="Other" Album="ÐáñÜîåíï Óõíáßóèçìá" Color="910941" Cover="2218" Tag="1" />
[20:20] <BlueEagle>   <Infos FirstSeen="1102171827" />
[20:20] <BlueEagle>   <Comment>                            </Comment>
[20:20] <BlueEagle>   <Link Wmp="21A5BD5C-C39A-474C-8269B2C4C5786186" />
[20:20] <FloodBot1> BlueEagle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:20] <BlueEagle> ouch... Sorry. :(
[20:20] <pet2001> Taylr0x: Most used on Linux are vsftp and proftp.
[20:21] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: Back offline? Refer to <> </> as block :P
[20:21] <Stdedos> online*
[20:21] <OerHeks> shadej, why ? servers that ignore pings have a reason to do so,
[20:21] <chverma79> alc it happens only when your linux distro doesnt recognize the windows partition
[20:21] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: So you want to replace FilePath="E:\Τα έγγραφά μου\Η μουσική μου\ with FilePath="D:\Something\sensible?
[20:21] <ZIPY> john38: first b to save
[20:21] <chverma79> alc you need to manually modify the grub file by live booting
[20:21] <Stdedos> That's one aspect, changing the file path
[20:22] <shadej> OerHeks: I know but i want to hosts on my LAN
[20:22] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: The other aspect of my modification is to remove entries  from a speciefic path
[20:22] <shadej> how can i do that with out using -PR option in nmap
[20:22] <chverma79> alc orelse check fosswire site for a thread realted to it, i got mine solved there
[20:22] <alc> chverma79: performing another bot-repair?
[20:22] <chverma79> ok
[20:22] <anonee> I activated bluetooth to browse files on my phone, selected the PAN profile, I did the selection 3 times instead of selecting my phone from the bluetooth menu and selecting (browse files), as a result, I have my phone name listed 3 times in the network list, on click, they will ask if I want to use my phone's internet. how can I remove the duplicates?
[20:22] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: The first you don't need regex for. The second you don't want to use regex for.
[20:22] <ZIPY> john38: then q to go back and then choose search
[20:23] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: Ok ... why and why?
[20:23] <alc> chverma79: it can't even recognize windows on bot, can it be grub?
[20:24] <chverma79> alc yes
[20:24] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: Well if you know the exact text you are searching for and what to replace it with a regular search and replace is all you need. No regex required. As for manipulating *ML, regex is not the right tool for the job.
[20:24] <chverma79> check for how to repair grub bootloader
[20:25] <mudkip908> shadej: use arping
[20:25] <jitse> shadej, well, you could do a plain netcat to a (pseudo) random port on the host you need to check. Example: http://fpaste.org/29947/
[20:25] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: I do know what I am searching for, but I got some parameters on the table, splitting folders and so forth
[20:26] <jitse> shadej, the error message is different, you see. Connection refused = up, No route to host = down
[20:26] <shadej> mudkip908: arp -n ?
[20:26] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: And again, deleting entries, still have some variables
[20:26] <jitse> shadej, exactly
[20:26] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: If you are not able to describe completely what you need then it would be hard for anyone to help you. Perhaps xmlint is the tool for you?
[20:27] <shadej> jitse: ok i will try that
[20:27] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: Maybe you even want a xml transform document?
[20:27] <jitse> shadej, but ARP only works on the local network, you'll need another trick to check hosts outside of your LAN
[20:29] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: Noooo! I feel this is getting way over than where I feel a solution might be!
[20:29] <shadej> jitse: ok, but i need to solve the setuid and java issue because i need to run nmap as a root for OS finger printing,port scanning,mac address discovery ..
[20:30] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: I just want a way to tell the replace engine, if you bump into this, <(search parameters)>, then delete it untill the first </Song> is found
[20:30] <john38> ZIPY, you there
[20:30] <BlueEagle> Stdedos: Well, what you think the solution is, and what the solution actually is doesn't really have to match. I too once thought that regex was the key to all serach and replace needs, but it is not, and read http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2009/11/parsing-html-the-cthulhu-way.html if you do not believe me.
[20:30] <john38> ZIPY, how do imagebin a photo again so you can tell me which installation is the one i want
[20:32] <chverma79> hi
[20:32] <alc> chverma79: any idea of the page title? I haven't found anything
[20:33] <alc> should it be this one? -> http://fosswire.com/post/2009/05/restoring-overwritten-grub/
[20:33] <ZIPY> john38: didnt understand ur last question
[20:34] <john38> ZIPY, well when i started recovery for zip it made over 2000 recoverys ....it wasnt fininished yet but i dont recall having deleted so many zip files
[20:34] <john38> ZIPY, in the past
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> alc, I missed you initial description, are you trying to repair the grub bootloader?
[20:35] <ZIPY> hm did u choose whole disk or only free space?
[20:35] <john38> ZIPY, i think free space
[20:35] <ZIPY> if u deleted the file accidently u should use free space
[20:37] <john38> ZIPY, i did choose free space
[20:37] <Stdedos> BlueEagle: sudo apt-get install perl? :/
[20:37] <john38> ZIPY, and it had about 2hr remaining
[20:37] <jrib> Stdedos: you could have mastered xmlstarlet by now
[20:37] <HxD_NightFall> I love the massive amount of joinings and leabings
[20:37] <jitse> shadej, ok, as I said before, setuid is not an option. The easiest solution would be:  use Runtime.getRuntime().exec(new String[]{"sudo", "nmap", "-PR", "host"}) and add an entry to the sudoers file on your machine
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> HxD_NightFall, My client allows that to be turned off, makes it a bit easier.
[20:38] <Stdedos> jrib: I headed over to CPAN, found this http://search.cpan.org/~grantm/XML-Simple-2.20/lib/XML/Simple.pm ,and I saw a Makefile.PL
[20:39] <jrib> Stdedos: pretty sure almost any language you pick will have an xml library.  And I would be surprised if you don't have a perl xml library in the repositories
[20:39] <shadej> jitse: what will that sudoer do?
[20:39] <saleem> hi, what kernel is the LTS version for ubuntu precise?
[20:39] <shadej> make me superuser forever?
[20:39] <jrib> !info linux-image precise | saleem
[20:39] <saleem> thanks jrib
[20:39] <alc> wilee-nilee: i'me in a pre-installed win 8 pc, and installed ubuntu. after running bot-repair, it doesn't loads, gives a message about media wich can't be loaded, and on ubuntu live, i can't see the windows partition, the linux one seems to have the size of linux + win ones
[20:39] <jitse> shadej, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[20:39] <john38> wilee-nilee, thank for last night swap did have to turned off
[20:40] <ZIPY> john38: http://linuxpoison.blogspot.de/2012/05/recover-deleted-files-using-scalpel.html i just found the option u can use -i to look for filename
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> john38, Cool. ;)
[20:40] <john38> ZIPY, thanks
[20:40] <Stdedos> jrib: ah, so starlet is in Ubuntu ... let me man then
[20:40] <jitse> shadej, needless to say, this only works on GNU/Linux-based systems
[20:40] <alc> wilee-nilee: after bot-repair, prior to the crash, it showed this report: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5944101/
[20:41] <shadej> jitse: like ubuntu?
[20:41] <shadej> that is what i want
[20:41] <jitse> shadej, yes
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> alc, The UEFI setup with W8 is a bit if a mess for some, best place support I have seen consistently is the UF, here is a link to that helpers thread.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[20:43] <john38> ZIPY, but this is for scalpel ...where do i type in the -i option
[20:43] <john38> ZIPY, after ...-o
[20:43] <dorohoro> i have problem with repozitorium, it download litl at full speed and than stop and wait some time then download again etc.. to install anything i need ages.
[20:44] <guntbert> dorohoro: that looks like you have choosen a mirror server far away from your location
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> alc, I'm quite fond of using that bootscript however have not had the joy/pain of messing with a urfi setup isall.
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> uefi*
[20:47] <anonee> anyone? I activated bluetooth to browse files on my phone, selected the PAN profile, I did the selection 3 times instead of selecting my phone from the bluetooth menu and selecting (browse files), as a result, I have my phone name listed 3 times in the network list, on click, they will ask if I want to use my phone's internet. how can I remove the duplicates?
[20:47] <dorohoro> rep is in my city but still problems
[20:48] <levo> taking webcam picture in ubuntu 12.10 with capability of seeing preview. what program do you suggest?
[20:48] <HisaoNakai> levo - KDenLive perhaps.
[20:48] <columb> Computer keep freezing. I don't think that it's OS issue (same freezes on windows). I think that it's power issues. How do I get info about power supply from system? Or what I should to do to find cause of this freezes?
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> anonee:  if you cant find a gui way to do it. theres most likely some config file for it in ~/.config/ that you cold remove to reset the bluetooth settings  (but i dont use BT much any more so no idea what files)
[20:49] <ezio> is there any way to get sendmail to asynchronously send email?
[20:49] <levo> HisaoNakai: too big!
[20:49] <levo> HisaoNakai: streamer is ok , but i can't see the preview.
[20:50] <john38> ZIPY, this is how i recover in scalpel to my home directory but where do i put in -i option..............sudo scalpel  /dev/sda5  -o  /home/recovered
[20:51] <ZIPY> after ../recovered i guess
[20:52] <john38> ZIPY, the filename is intermediate.zip
[20:52] <HisaoNakai> levo - There appear to be loads of them listed in synaptic. Try a few more out, try asking in ##video or somewhere, or try contacting support of the software which doesn't work.
[20:53] <john38> ZIPY, sudo scalpel  /dev/sda5 -o  /home/recovered -i intermediate.zip
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> levo:  cheese works well for most people.
[20:53] <john38> ZIPY, like that
[20:53] <levo> HisaoNakai, Dr_Willis: thanks
[20:53] <ZIPY> john38: try, it will show an error if its wrong
[20:53] <john38> ZIPY, ok
[20:54] <Dr_Willis> ive been tracking down nice simple video-recording/capture app to use with my new USB Video capture Dongle. So far cheese is the easiest to use.
[20:54] <ZIPY> john38: did you get an error?
[20:54] <whoever> Dr_Willis: cinerella
[20:54] <john38> ZIPY, hold on
[20:55] <ggabriel96> guys
[20:55] <ggabriel96> I got a problem >_<
[20:55] <napsc> kazam is about as simple as it gets
[20:55] <ggabriel96> I just installed virtualbox and every time I go to File -> Preferences, my system logs out
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> whoever:  i just mainly need to 'capture for set time (like 1 hr)' with a preview/audio preview. and save to file.. thats it. :) setting up  a 'vcr to video file' station for the wife.. and anything extras will conruse her. im not really doing any video editing (at that point)
[20:56] <chverma79> ggabriel96: yup
[20:56] <ggabriel96> hey chverma79 ^^
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> If cheese had a 'record for XXX time' it would be  almost perfect for my needs.
[20:56] <ggabriel96> can you help me?
[20:56] <john38> ZIPY, couldnt open file ---no such file or directory
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  well dont use the term 'logs out' when you mean X is crashing back to the login screen. ;)
[20:57] <ZIPY> john38: ok wait let me try
[20:57] <whoever> Dr_Willis: script a timer on the pid creation
[20:57] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  try making a new user.  see if affects them also.
[20:57] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: oh, didn't know it was that
[20:57] <Dr_Willis> whoever:  yea.  but the goal is to set it up where the wife can  do it. :)
[20:57] <whoever> Dr_Willis: that sounds a little hi-tech for here
[20:57] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: will virtual box be available for the new user?
[20:57] <ggabriel96> or I'll have to download it again?
[20:58] <whoever> Dr_Willis: aren't there hooks for chesse tha8t you can use
[20:58] <Stdedos> jrib: So, let's say I am kinda familiriazing with xmlstarlet. XPath all that (so far) seems to me does is making  simple matches
[20:58] <Dr_Willis> basically i need a time field/widgit  where she can enter like 1.3 hrs.. and hit play on the vcr. then click 'go/record' on the app. and she can walk away..  other day we frogot we were recording and got a 15hr video capture file of static. :) that filled up the hd.
[20:59] <Stdedos> jrib: How can I make more complex search requests?
[20:59] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  make a new user in virtualbox (you got ubuntu in vbox? make a new user in ubuntu in vbox)  Unless i missread your issue.
[20:59] <guntbert> ggabriel96: it will be available
[20:59] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  or you maean VBOX itself is crashing your desktop?
[20:59] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: oh, no.  under id 24
[21:00] <FloodBot1> ggabriel96: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:00] <ggabriel96> Qt WARNING: void DBusMenuExporterPrivate::addAction(QAction*, int): Already tracking action "Re&fresh..." under id 25
[21:00] <ggabriel96> Qt WARNING: void DBusMenuExporterPrivate::addAction(QAction*, int): Already tracking action "Show in File Manager" under id 27
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> warnings shouldent be fatal ;)
[21:01] <jrib> Stdedos: I don't know the answer to your question, I would have to go read about it
[21:01] <ggabriel96> oh I should use pastebin haha
[21:01] <ggabriel96> sorry
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  also what ubuntu release are you using?
[21:01] <ggabriel96> but that's just the output in terminal when I type "virtualbox" in it
[21:01] <jrib> Stdedos: google something like "xmlstart delete block" after going through the intro tutorial they have in their official docs and then just read a bunch of examples
[21:01] <ggabriel96> my system is 13.04
[21:01] <jrib> xmlstarlet*
[21:02] <Stdedos> jrib: I see - Thanks
[21:02] <larrymo> I installed ubuntu and now I cant su root
[21:02] <larrymo> Im trying to actually edit files that are read only
[21:02] <guntbert> !sudo | larrymo
[21:02] <ggabriel96> larrymo: try sudo su
[21:02] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  dont use 'sudo su'  :) use sudo -s or sudo -i
[21:02] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[21:02] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: why?
[21:02] <jrib> Stdedos: and make sure you have a backup of your file :)  Also, I would make a small toy file with similar structure to the actual file so you can practice on it
[21:02] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  because sudo su is wrong. ;P
[21:03] <ggabriel96> oh
[21:03] <ggabriel96> didn't know that
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> sudo -i will give a 'sane' enviroment
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> sudo su is also redundant.
[21:03] <guntbert> !enter | ggabriel96
[21:03] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: did you read the Qt WARNING stuff?
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  as i said 'warnings shouldent be fatal'
[21:03] <ggabriel96> well but they are crashing x, as you said
[21:03] <Stdedos> jrib: This is a no-brainer - file is on Windows and I am working on VM Ubuntu :P
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96: and i see identical warnings here. and vbox does work for me.
[21:03] <ggabriel96> hmm
[21:04] <ggabriel96> I'll click preferences again and see if something else appears
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> you said it crashed when you selectd file->new. well here vbot starts the wizard the first time.
[21:04] <ZIPY> john38: did u uncomment zip in /etc/scalpel/scalpel.conf
[21:04] <jrib> Stdedos: http://xmlstar.sourceforge.net/doc/UG/xmlstarlet-ug.html has a basic deletion example, so now you just need to construct the correct XPath expression
[21:04] <john38> ZIPY, hold zipy im trying something else give me a sec
[21:06] <Leo145> hi. i tried to make sudo read my password from stdin but i also want to redirect stdin for my program. it will become like this: echo pass | sudo -S program < input. now sudo trys to read password from stdin. what can i do?
[21:06] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: nothing else appeared, it just crashes
[21:06] <ripidez>  /whois ripidez
[21:06] <jrib> Leo145: take a step back and explain why on earth you are doing this
[21:07] <ripidez> whoops
[21:07] <john38> ZIPY, in photorec i didnt choose right ext to search in my linux is ext4...i was choosing ext2 and ext3
[21:08] <john38> ZIPY, but it also might have been a rar or zip im not sure
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  id try making a new user as a test. just to eliminate the potential that it could be a user setting issue.
[21:08] <Leo145> jrib: because i'm writing a server program and one of its tasks is to take some c++ file from user. compile it and run it. and it should have specific input and output file and it should be run as a limited user.
[21:09] <ggabriel96> you mean a user on my system, not in virtual machine, right
[21:09] <ggabriel96> ?
[21:09] <jrib> Leo145: why do you need sudo?
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  since you have no OS runningin the vm. :) the only place you can add a new user is on the ubuntu os  correct?
[21:10] <ggabriel96> yes
[21:10] <kubunto> o wow
[21:10] <Leo145> jrib: server program runs as user A. user B is a limited user. i want to use sudo to run taken c++ code as B instead of A.
[21:10] <kubunto> lots of ppl here
[21:11] <ggabriel96> I'll try it out, be right back later
[21:11] <ZIPY> john38: ext2 and ext3 option works with ext4 aswel
[21:11] <jrib> Leo145: I think you should redesign whatever it is you are doing
[21:12] <john38> ZIPY, yeah but now its more realistic with only few minutes remaining which means its acatully looking for file
[21:12] <john38> ZIPY, not the 2000 files
[21:12] <john38> ZIPY, well lets see
[21:12] <guntbert> kubunto: welcome, Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:12] <kubunto> yes
[21:12] <DesJ> What is the Pandora app exclusive to linux called? It has unlimited skips and shows you whats next in queue.
[21:12] <ltrottier> So, I have a Zotac media box which is detecting an externa VGA-connected TV as an LVDS
[21:12] <john38> ZIPY, damn didnt find anytyhing
[21:13] <kubunto> i ran update and my system has become a bit unreliable because of it
[21:13] <ZIPY> john38: the -i option doesnt work for me too, i get the same message
[21:13] <guntbert> !details | kubunto
[21:13] <jrib> DesJ:  use pianobar.  I'm sure there are lots of clients for pandora though
[21:13] <jrib> s/^/I/
[21:14] <peyam> Hi I opened Dropbox and the theme of my windows changed to this : http://i39.tinypic.com/2mxms75.png
[21:14] <peyam> it is beautiful what is that and why does it appear only when I open dropbox
[21:14] <ZIPY> john38: omg i found out
[21:15] <Left_Turn> hey how do i search for a file or directory with the terminal
[21:15] <john38> ZIPY, what
[21:15] <kubunto> i am running xubuntu 13.04, I ran system update (about 100 or so packages went thru) rebooted, choked a little before login but i was able to get past it
[21:15] <ZIPY> john38: u need to create a empty file and put in a list of words to search for
[21:15] <kubunto> now cant open the system update gui without it grashing
[21:15] <ZIPY> -i expects a file
[21:15] <john38> ZIPY, for scalpel
[21:15] <ZIPY> yes
[21:16] <guntbert> Left_Turn: the command is   find, you use it like   find . -name "somefile"    (the dot is the starting poiint for the search
[21:16] <Taceo> How goes?
[21:16] <john38> ZIPY, damn
[21:16] <Left_Turn> ok thanks guntbert
[21:16] <john38> ZIPY, hey zipy i gotta run somewhere bbl
[21:16] <ZIPY> ^^
[21:16] <ZIPY> i will try out meanwhile
[21:17] <guntbert> Left_Turn: You're welcome , for further info look at   man find
[21:17] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: nope, doesn't work on new user too
[21:17] <Left_Turn> ok will do:)
[21:17] <ggabriel96> I was reading something on the internet, I think it's related to some configuration on nvidia settings
[21:18] <eden> how can i know if i am using my nvidia driver? Iam using 12.04 64 bit
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> edenhi, Check software sources-additional drivers
[21:19] <DesJ> Ah, my friend answered me. The Music program is called Pithos.
[21:19] <edenhi> wilee-nilee, nothing also i have a hybrid laptop
[21:20] <edenhi> wilee-nilee, nvidia and intel
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> edenhi, is everything look good?
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> looking*
[21:20] <edenhi> wilee-nilee, what do you mean?
[21:20] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: you there?
[21:21] <kubunto> guntbert: i am running xubuntu 13.04, I ran system update (about 100 or so packages went thru) rebooted, choked a little before login but i was able to get past it
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> edenhi, I believe the hybrid setup runs the nvidia under certain circumstances, the details your giving help the channel in general.
[21:21] <kubunto> guntbert: the error reported seems to be a parse error
[21:21] <kubunto> guntbert: E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[21:22] <edenhi> wilee-nilee, ah when i run glxgears it gives me only 60 fps so i guess so i don't use the nvidia
[21:22] <edenhi> wilee-nilee, i have 640m le
[21:22] <Tunix2> Hey guys, I just bought a VPS that is virtualized with OpenVZ and I am using the Ubuntu 11.04 img. My problem is there is no aptitude! How do I install it?
[21:22] <guntbert> kubunto: use a !pastebin to show us the errors
[21:22] <guntbert> !pastebin | kubunto
[21:22] <jrib> Tunix2: congratulations, your provider gave you an unsupported ubuntu release
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> edenhi, Your best help scenario is to identify that hardware info in detail, lspci in the cli will give exact graphic info to post for help.
[21:23] <Tunix2> jrib: They have been a nightmare to work with. What are my options short of contacting them
[21:23] <jrib> Tunix2: you can try upgrading but I would suggest finding a different provider, there are so many
[21:23] <jrib> !eolupgrades | Tunix2
[21:23] <wilee-nilee> edenhi, Graphics are not a strong area for me so the channel is the best help here
[21:23] <edenhi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5945255/ wilee-nilee
[21:24] <Tunix2> jrib: how do I upgrade without aptitude? I do not have the package update-manager-core installed on this machine
[21:24] <jrib> Tunix2: you can also see if they offer 12.04 images through their web interface
[21:24] <Tunix2> jrib:  they do not
[21:24] <jrib> Tunix2: you don't have apt-get?
[21:24] <Tunix2> jrib: http://puu.sh/3SYPV/9cd982ce71.png
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> edenhi, He, you want to find the actual info and post it a pastebin may or not be read is all I would say.
[21:25] <kubunto> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5945261/
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> edenhi, The key here which can be difficult at times is exact info, the details needed, otherwise one can get lost in the channel traffic. ;)
[21:26] <Tunix2> jrib: I do have apt-get but it can not locate any packages called update-manager or update-manager-core
[21:26] <jrib> Tunix2: you need to follow the guide to enable the repositories for eol versions
[21:27] <edenhi> wilee-nilee, roger that
[21:27] <Irving_Nsia> Hello everyone, Irving_Nsiahere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[21:27] <edenhi> wilee-nilee, i found this guide
[21:27] <helmholtz> I've just installed a new theme, and it's screwed over all my shortcuts. How can I fix this?
[21:27] <wilee-nilee> edenhi, Sorry I will take off the preacher hat, lol, that is a problem we see with new development hardware.
[21:28] <debfan> anyone use these programs and have a usb headset?   audacity
[21:28] <guntbert> kubunto: looks strange, I have not had to deal with such an error before but I suppose there are several helpers here you can tell you what to try, so I suugest you make a complete question (with link to that pastebin) and post it here again (without my nick in this case)
[21:29] <delnith> anyone here very good with ubuntu?
[21:29] <k1l_> !details | delnith
[21:29] <Shloop> how do I set up a vpn for irc with ubuntu?
[21:29] <delnith> I want to convert to ubuntu from windows, but am unsure of what will run and what will not
[21:30] <helmholtz> I'm having a problem with my shortcuts after installing a theme. I'm running ubuntu 12.04. When i try to use shortcuts, nothing happens.
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> edenhi, I believe but not sure it is bumblebee that is part of this, check though to be sure it is still. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> edenhi, There appears to be a #bunblebee channel as well if this applies.
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> debfan, State the actual issues for help. ;)
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> #bumblebee*
[21:34] <helmholtz> Is anybody able to help me?
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> edenhi, a search at askubuntu, good luck. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=bumblebee
[21:35] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: you there?
[21:36] <debfan> wilee-nilee:  ahhhhhhh  lol
[21:36] <holstein> helmholtz: what theme? what shortcuts? what version of what operating system?
[21:36] <debfan> so annoying  ....ehlp!!!!!!! lol
[21:36] <debfan> started working again... don't know why *bangs head*
[21:36] <ggabriel96> has anyone here experienced crashes of X when running virtual box
[21:36] <holstein> helmholtz: i would load up a new user, and see if the issue is the same over there in that account
[21:36] <larrymo> how do I know if I have natty etc?
[21:36] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  im in and out all day/night long
[21:36] <wilee-nilee> help I've fallen and can't get up. ;)
[21:37] <holstein> larrymo: do you know the release number?
[21:37] <holstein> !natty
[21:37] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: oh. look at the logs: http://pastebin.com/gFJxE0wP
[21:37] <larrymo> the last stable one
[21:37] <holstein> larrymo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckingYourUbuntuVersion
[21:37] <helmholtz> holstein: mac-os-x theme, ubuntu 12.04. alttab, search menu, workspace change, basically all of them
[21:37] <debfan> I don't know why it stops working!!!  so, it will stop again
[21:37] <helmholtz> holstein: although ctrl-t works, but that's on firefox
[21:37] <holstein> helmholtz: where did you get the theme?
[21:38] <helmholtz> holstein: NoobLabs
[21:38] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: by the way, if I do a sudo apt-get purge nvidia*, will nouveau be restored automatically?
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  not sure. ive rarely needed to purge my drivers. if not you can reinstall ubuntu-desktop package and it should reinstall them
[21:38] <holstein> helmholtz: you should ask them for support, or try using a theme from the repos
[21:38] <ggabriel96> sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop?
[21:39] <helmholtz> holstein: ok thanks
[21:40] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop?
[21:45] <Taceo> What would one suggest, for an ubunto distribution, for an XP capable machine, used only for browsing, and onboard programs?
[21:46] <kostkon> Taceo, lubuntu
[21:46] <larrymo> I have precise
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  just try 'install' first
[21:48] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: ?
[21:48] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: ah ok
[21:48] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: I installed my nvidia driver with sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[21:49] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: so there is no problem in using sudo apt-get purge nvidia*, right?
[21:49] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: or, even if I installed the driver with Additional Drivers, I could do that, couldn't I?
[21:50] <johnj2> How can I adjust the volume in Ubuntu 13.04 with the Gnome Classic environment?
[21:51] <holstein> johnj2: i like "pavucontrol"
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  be VERY carefull with using wildcards * with apt.
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:   use tab completion to complete the package name if you dont know it
[21:52] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: but nvidia* will remove everything related to ONLY nvidia, won't it?
[21:52] <Cren> i got my lxde meny empty after i reinstalled lxde
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  and the addationial drivers tool - uses the apt system to installs tuff so its the same
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> ggabriel96:  read what it wants to uninstall.. your use of nvidia* may confuse things. when in doubt use the proper package name
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> be VERY VERy carefull with 'wildcards' and apt-get ;)
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> Cren, Can you explain that in more detail and in understandable way?
[21:53] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: but I want to completely remove everything related to the nvidia driver. I should use sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current then?
[21:53] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: as I used nvidia-current to install
[21:54] <Cren> wilee-nilee: ok i tried to get an program i installed appear in the menu, but it didnt so i reinstalled the lxde and after i did that, the meny got empty with only logout and run in it
[21:54] <Cren> wilee-nilee: i have deleting the config files too, but didnt work
[21:55] <johnj2> holstein: that doesn't seem to work on my computer.  It says: "Connection to PulsAudio failed. Automatic retry in 5s." and some other stuff.
[21:55] <holstein> johnj2: share the *exact* stuff
[21:55] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: if after this "sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current", I only get a black and white terminal after booting, what can I do?
[21:55] <holstein> !paste | johnj2
[21:55] <codephobic> hi, got an urgent problem with unity/ubuntu 13.04
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> Cren, What is your native language?
[21:56] <codephobic> I lost sound earlier today, then tried removing and purging pulseaudio and reinstalling
[21:56] <codephobic> now when I reboot into ubuntu, it does not go to unity, or rather it doesn't look like unity. there is no launcher nor is there the menubar at the top of the screen
[21:57] <codephobic> I can't seem to get unity to work again
[21:57] <codephobic> (and I still have no sound)
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> codephobic, When you ran that purge did you look at all that was removed?
[21:58] <codephobic> wilee-nilee, "sudo apt-get remove --purge alsa-base pulseaudio" this is all that I ran
[21:58] <codephobic> removing alsa-base and pulseaudio
[21:58] <Cren> wilee-nilee: swedish
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> codephobic, And in the terminal it says what its going to do and you have ti yes or no it did you look?
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> !sw
[21:58] <codephobic> wilee-nilee, yes
[21:59] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: well I'm restoring nouveau with the additional drivers itself and see if vb works
[21:59] <ggabriel96> Dr_Willis: after restoring it, can I delete xorg.conf?
[21:59] <codephobic> wilee-nilee, It worked correctly but then I think when I reinstalled (and the  sound didn't work), I tried to remove & purge again and then reinstall, at which point it "hanged" and I did a hard reboot.
[21:59] <johnj2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5945341/
[21:59] <daftykins> ggabriel96: you probably should no matter what
[22:00] <Cren> wilee-nilee: ok the entries in the menu is gone, with only the run and logout left
[22:00] <ggabriel96> daftykins: I should? like now? or after rebooting? the changes were applied already
[22:00] <codephobic> right now, I'm trying to reset compiz but it's stuck on "compiz (core) - Info: unloading plugin: core
[22:00] <daftykins> ggabriel96: move it to xorg.conf.old for safety
[22:00] <tucemiux> anyone knows if there are tablets with ubuntu out yet ?
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> codephobic, A hard shutdown generally should n ot cause a lot of problems rae you familiar with reisub?
[22:01] <ggabriel96> daftykins: how can I open Files with adm?
[22:01] <codephobic> wilee-nilee, nope never heard of it.
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> Cren, On a fresh install right, hard to tell exactly with your posts?
[22:02] <Taceo> How might I check which distro is on a machine, if I was just gifted a linux machine?
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> codephobic, a soft shutdown option. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reisub
[22:02] <Taceo> I know it is Ubuntu.. and that is it.
[22:02] <Cren> wilee-nilee: sure you dont trolling me?
[22:02] <ggabriel96> daftykins: and this xorg.conf.nvidia-xconfig-original?
[22:02] <k1l_> Taceo: "lsb_release -a"
[22:02] <codephobic> wilee-nilee, I can't browse right now, I have no access to launcher and terminal doesn't launch chrome
[22:02] <daftykins> ggabriel96: eh i guess that's a valid backup for at some point too. just as long as 'xorg.conf' isn't there it'll be fine
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> Cren, No, you are hardly understandable, in general I want exact details, bad communication compounds this.
[22:03] <codephobic> wilee-nilee, is there anyway to recover ubuntu at an earlier point in time (like Window's "system restore"), say from sometime today?
[22:03] <ggabriel96> ok
[22:03] <ggabriel96> sudo rm xorg.conf?
[22:03] <holstein> ggabriel96: why remove?
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> Cren, #ubuntu-se might be easier
[22:04] <ggabriel96> holstein: I just restored nouveau
[22:04] <codephobic> I don't know why the sound card stopped working in Ubuntu, out of the blue, and I think it's something to do with  some buggy update done to the kernel, atleast that's what I deciphered from my earlier googling.
[22:04] <holstein> ggabriel96: you can always just rename.. or move it out of the way.. not need to removing things like that since you might be troubleshooting
[22:04] <Taceo> we are using ubuntu 10.10, it seems
[22:04] <ggabriel96> holstein: I copied it into documents, now imma remove it
[22:05] <Cren> wilee-nilee: i already told you want i have done, and whats the problem, i want get the menu entries back, and not the panel.
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> codephobic, Not really, try this reset for unity though if it is 12.10 or 13.04 sometimes a couple of reboots can fix a hard shutdown. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[22:05] <ggabriel96> holstein: I don't know how to rename it. I needs admin rights and I don't know how to do that neither graphically, nor thru command line
[22:05] <k1l_> !eol | Taceo
[22:05] <codephobic> wilee-nilee, I'm using 13.04
[22:06] <k1l_> Taceo: 10.10 is way out of support. best way would be to make a clean install onto at least 12.04
[22:06] <holstein> ggabriel96: sudo
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> Cren, You are not answering basic questions needed, instead accusing me of trolling you, things are not always an easy fix, especially without any real details.
[22:06] <ggabriel96> holstein: that part I know. I don't know the rest. is is sudo mv xorg.conf xorgbackup.conf for exemple?
[22:06] <ggabriel96> is it*
[22:07] <holstein> !mv
[22:07] <holstein> !info mv
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> Cren, Do not bother answering me find another helper.
[22:07] <ggabriel96> ok it worked
[22:07] <ggabriel96> be right back
[22:07] <holstein> ggabriel96: http://linux.die.net/man/1/mv
[22:08] <codephobic> wilee-nilee, that's not working for me, I tried that solution earlier. I get warnings and none of the launcher or menubar returns
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> codephobic, Try the reset in that link.
[22:08] <Taceo> thanks
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> codephobic, Hard to say for me, any details like graphic drivers...etc are helpful.
[22:10] <thunder-storm> hello everybody, i'm using ubuntu 12.04 LTS with unity. Do you know an easy way to change the font-colors of the environment?
[22:10] <ggabriel96> ok. nouveau restored normally (i did it with additional drivers). what doing a sudo apt-get purge nvidia-current would do now?
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> thunder-storm, I believe there is a unity-tweak app that may have that option, but surely others
[22:12] <johnj2> assuming I have a broken pulseaudio, is there an easy way to figure out what's wrong and how to fix it?
[22:12] <holstein> !audio | johnj2
[22:12] <SuperLag> You seriously *still* have reisio banned? *shaking my head*
[22:12] <holstein> johnj2: i test with a known good audio file, simple supported codec.. (no flash or mp3's).. i use a player i know how to use
[22:14] <johnj2> I don't have trouble getting sound to happen.  I just don't have a working volume control.
[22:14] <ggabriel96> aha! virtualbox doesn't crash x with nouveau!
[22:14] <ggabriel96> its some error with nvidia settings
[22:15] <holstein> johnj2: then, you have no issues with pulse
[22:15] <ggabriel96> is there any configuration tool for nouveau?
[22:15] <holstein> johnj2: open a terminal and type "alsamixer"
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> thunder-storm, Not sure that app is available for 12.04 though.
[22:15] <holstein> johnj2: see if that works for you
[22:16] <holstein> ggabriel96: what error? what settings?
[22:16] <LXLE> anyone know why use_xft is not working?
[22:16] <ggabriel96> holstein: when opening the preferences menu at virtual box, my x server was crashing and I was getting back to login. now with nouveau that doesnt happen. is there any configuration for nouveau?
[22:17] <thunder-storm> ok, i will try, thank you wilee-nilee
[22:17] <holstein> ggabriel96: what configuration?
[22:17] <ggabriel96> holstein: or, is there any way to fix that with nvidia driver? I can't play tf2 with nouveau XD (i won't have time to do so anyways, but...)
[22:17] <ggabriel96> holstein: I mean, any config tool , just like nvidia has the nvidia settings
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> LXLE, Details go a long way for help here. ;)
[22:17] <holstein> ggabriel96: you should need one, what configuration are you trying to do?
[22:18] <ggabriel96> holstein: none actually, just wanted to know if there is something like the nvidia settings but for nouveau. anywhere I could change my graphics settings just like nvidia control panel
[22:18] <holstein> ggabriel96: there are general tools.. i use arandr
[22:18] <johnj2> holstein: yes, alsamixer works.  Thank you.
[22:19] <LXLE> wilee-nilee: i'm in conky, using use_xft= yes all configs work fine on most machines except to where xft= yes is not being honored
[22:19] <ggabriel96> holstein: oh, but there isn't a pre-installed/default one then... just one thing: why this auto-hide for launcher doesn't work sometimes? I mean, it hides and then sometimes I can't get it back when putting the cursor on the left side
[22:20] <holstein> ggabriel96: what launcher?
[22:20] <ggabriel96> the launcher
[22:20] <ggabriel96> holstein: where you lock your apps
[22:20] <ggabriel96> holstein: the one that is at the right side of the screen
[22:21] <ggabriel96> holstein: the one that holds the ubuntu button on the top
[22:21] <holstein> ggabriel96: what what version of ubuntu? and what desktop?
[22:21] <holstein> ggabriel96: unity?
[22:21] <ggabriel96> holstein: 13.04 unity
[22:21] <holstein> ggabriel96: AFAIK, you cant hide it by default.. what have you added?
[22:22] <ggabriel96> holstein: of course you can hide it! go to system settings->appearance->behavior
[22:23] <Hariwald_Tiras> Hello everyone, Hariwald_Tirashere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[22:23] <holstein> ggabriel96: i dont use it, friend.. but, if you share details, it will help the volunteers better assist you
[22:23] <holstein> ggabriel96: what is the issue?
[22:24] <ggabriel96> holstein: sometimes it just randomly doesnt show up again, after hiding
[22:24] <theadmin> ggabriel96: There seems to be some oddity of a mouse gesture that causes an issue with auto-hide being permanently stuck in one of the two states. Usually restarting Unity fixes the problem (from a terminal: unity &disown)
[22:25] <tucemiux> holstein, you think you can help me pick out a firewire card ?
[22:25] <ggabriel96> thanks theadmin Ill try it out when I face this problem again
[22:27] <retrosenator> I notice that that apt-get resumes downloads.. but why not apt-get update?
[22:27] <ggabriel96> installing guest additions on virtualbox is as simple as going to devices->install guest additions?
[22:28] <holstein> tucemiux: i like/prefer texas insrument chips.. i bought one, and tested it, and it had a TI chipset
[22:29] <tucemiux> holstein, I mean a firewire sound card, I already ordered the firewire card
[22:29] <crankharder> does upstart/init have a config file somewhere?  I'd like to specify an additional directory that it monitors for configuration files... in addition to /etc/init
[22:30] <holstein> tucemiux: i like/use a presonus firepod.. the focusrite saphire series is good for the cash.. i would check the ffado and decide on a budget and what features you need
[22:30] <tucemiux> holstein, ill be on later on, my laptop is about to die
[22:30] <tucemiux> holstein, talk to you later if youre still around
[22:31] <thunder-storm> exit
[22:33] <SuperLag> Is the ~/.config/ directory an Ubuntu standard, or someone else's?
[22:33] <motaka2> hello is there a way to use a lighter theme on ubuntu without the need of re installing ubuntu ?
[22:34] <LXLE> anyone know how to enable xft ?
[22:35] <Pricey> motaka2: http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html might be interesting.
[22:35] <Ubuntivity> Hello people. I have a problem with the 'beep' on my Ubuntu Server 12.04
[22:35] <Ubuntivity> On my Desktop PC running Ubuntu server 12.04, I removed the blacklisting from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf then did a 'sudo modprobe pcspkr' then it worked fine
[22:36] <theadmin> motaka2: Sure, you can use any of the official Ubuntu desktops. To do so, simply install xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop from the Software Centre.
[22:36] <Ubuntivity> But I did the same steps on a Laptop with Ubuntu server 12.04 but it did not work!
[22:36] <motaka2> theadmin, which one do you suggest for a LAMP programmer?
[22:37] <theadmin> motaka2: Uh. None. Servers aren't supposed to have desktops.
[22:37] <Pricey> motaka2: Sorry, that link wasn't for you!
[22:37] <Pricey> SuperLag: http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html might be interesting.
[22:37] <theadmin> motaka2: If you mean for development, then eh, shouldn't matter, what matters is the text editor you use and that's about it...
[22:37] <motaka2> theadmin, It's not a server, I use it for my day work but I mostely use programming staff since I am programmer
[22:38] <motaka2> theadmin, I use netbeans, if i install one of those spplication, i dont need to reinstall my apps again right ?
[22:39] <theadmin> motaka2: Not at all, you can even use all of the multitude of desktops -- you choose which desktop environment to use when you log in
[22:40] <motaka2> theadmin, so those desktops consume less cpu/meory etc ?
[22:41] <theadmin> motaka2: That depends. KDE (which Kubuntu uses), for example, is generally heavier, but much more functional and customizable than plain Ubuntu (in my opinion anyway). Xfce (Xubuntu) and LXDE (Lubuntu) are a lot lighter. Xfce is more functional than LXDE in general, though.
[22:42] <motaka2> theadmin, so over all Kubuntu is lighter than current desctop I am using ?
[22:42] <theadmin> motaka2: No, Kubuntu would be a bit heavier, I think.
[22:42] <NewInIRC> My Ubuntu 12.04 installation freeze sporadically (ping still works, ssh not, screen and mouse frozen) - how can I analyse the problem? Are there any kernel log files?
[22:43] <holstein> NewInIRC: i would try booting an older kernel, if you have one
[22:43] <Ubuntivity> Does alsamixer exist in Ubuntu Server?
[22:44] <holstein> Ubuntivity: ubuntuser *is* ubuntu.. but thats not the issue with the pc spkr beep you are cross posting about ;)
[22:44] <theadmin> Ubuntivity: If anything, you can always install it.
[22:44] <holstein> ubuntuserver*
[22:44] <motaka2> theadmin, so u suggest me xfce ?
[22:44] <theadmin> motaka2: Well... Choose whichever you like. See screenshots at http://kubuntu.org http://xubuntu.org and http://lubuntu.net
[22:45] <motaka2> theadmin, screen shot is not important to me I need something fast
[22:45] <holstein> Ubuntivity: try running "alsamixer" and see if it comes up
[22:45] <theadmin> motaka2: Oh, okay then, I do suggest Xfce (Xubuntu).
[22:45] <theadmin> Anyways, I'm off.
[22:45] <Ubuntivity> holstein: I'm going to start my Laptop server since it is in another room..
[22:48] <motaka2> does anyone know what's the size of xfce is ?
[22:50] <Ubuntivity> holstein: It didn't come up on Ubuntu Server and instructed me to install alsa-utils, so I'm doing so right now on that laptop..
[22:51] <alami> hi all, i have ubuntu about 2 years, i have do every time upgrade, do i musst after four upgrades backup new instell?
[22:51] <alami> install
[22:51] <jrib> alami: nope, you can keep upgrading
[22:51] <NewInIRC> holstein: I have received some kernel updates in the past and the problem still exists - that's the reason why I want to find the problem. I only have one older kernel installed where the problem also appears.
[22:52] <alami> jrib: but the system is become a little bis slowly, and i start get some Problem ...
[22:53] <eighteens> i have a issue when trying to import a .wps document to open office, it will import but looses all the tabs
[22:53] <daftykins> eighteens: tried libre office? it's getting updated more often
[22:55] <Ubuntivity> This is annoying! First when I tried to run 'alsamixer' I've been told "The program is not currently installed ... install alsa-utils" but now after installing it I get "cannot open mixer: no such file or directory"
[22:55] <daftykins> that's in a terminal yeah?
[22:56] <Ubuntivity> daftykins: Yes in terminal on Ubuntu Server 12.04
[22:57] <daftykins> are you running a desktop on top of that then?
[22:57] <Ubuntivity> No daftykins, I have an old laptop with Ubunut server 12.04 for a robotic project, and I need to activate the 'beep' on it..
[22:58] <Ubuntivity> I tired un-blacklisting it and loading the module with modprobe pcspkr, but I hear no sound out of it when I run beep.
[22:58] <Ubuntivity> I had a similar issue on my NEW laptop with Ubuntu DESKTOP, and I could solve it using alsamixer
[22:58] <daftykins> mmm, far less audio software present on server as standard though i'm sure
[22:59] <Ubuntivity> So, do you have any idea how do I activate the PCSPKR on my old laptop? I don't need real audio, just the beep.
[23:01] <jrib> !info beep
[23:01] <eighteens> daftykins: thanks, i will try that
[23:02] <jrib> ubottu: pretty sure beep actually plays sound through audio card/speakers
[23:02] <subcool> how do you probe the usb to "FIND" a device without rebooting?
[23:02] <jrib> ugh
[23:02] <daftykins> eighteens: after that i might try and find a channel for either of them!
[23:02] <jrib> Ubuntivity: pretty sure beep actually plays sound through audio card/speakers
[23:03] <Ubuntivity> I've got alsamixer finally working on Ubuntu server using sudo. Now I'm going upstairs to hear if it actually beeps :)
[23:03] <jrib> Ubuntivity: what you are probably wanting is to use the pc speaker which is unrelated afaik.    And you also need to probably sort out some configuration issue in your shell since I'm pretty sure ubuntu disables bell actually playing noise by default
[23:05] <SuperLag> Pricey: ah, yes. You're right.
[23:05] <SuperLag> Pricey: $XDG_CONFIG_HOME defines the base directory relative to which user specific configuration files should be stored. If $XDG_CONFIG_HOME is either not set or empty, a default equal to $HOME/.config should be used.
[23:05] <Pricey> SuperLag: yep
[23:05] <SuperLag> Pricey: and since, at least on Xubuntu, $XDG_CONFIG_HOME is not defined, it's using ~/.config
[23:07] <SuperLag> Pricey: thank you
[23:07] <subcool> there use to be a way, my iphone isnt detected when i plug it in. i know if i reboot, itll work, but i cant reboot at this moment
[23:07] <Pricey> SuperLag: no probs
[23:08] <NewInIRC> My ubuntu 12.04 is up-to-date but the kernel version is still 3.2.0-51-generic, with apt-cache I found the kernel image 3.8.0-27-generic - why?
[23:09] <wilee-nilee>  subcool I assume it is a usb run lsusb and see if there, iphone here is a not much used product I suspect.
[23:09] <kostkon> NewInIRC, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[23:09] <subcool> i did lsusb, its not there wilee-nilee - im porting to my vmbox.
[23:09] <Tex_Nick> Ubuntivity: I can't help with your specific issue, however ... pactl list sources | less ... has helped me resolve PulseAudio issues in the past ... will at least give you some info
[23:09] <Ubuntivity> jrib: I've finally got it working ^__^ This is by first removing the blacklisting, then installing alsa-utils, and run 'sudo alsamixer' then unmute EVERYTHING (unmuting beep only didn't help, so something else was involved too) and that's it :) Thanks to all
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> subcool, Sounds like a plan.
[23:10] <Ubuntivity> Tex_Nick: Got it solved (see ^) thanks anyway :)
[23:10] <Tex_Nick> Ubuntivity: GREAT :)
[23:10] <subcool>  i hate having to reboot
[23:11] <Ubuntivity> Tex_Nick: I'm gonna write that down here in case I need it someday in the future
[23:11] <fishscene> I have an ATI 5800 series (I think?) graphics card. On Windows, I can play TF2 with maxed out settings quite nicely. But on Ubuntu 13.04 with AMD proprietary drivers, it's horrendously lagging, no vsync, etc... and my card doesn't "ramp up" the fan for cooling on my GPU. Are the AMD graphics drivers *really* this terrible? Would NVIDIA be any better?
[23:11] <Tex_Nick> Ubuntivity: yeah, i'm also making notes of your experience ;-)
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> subcool, What release are you using?
[23:12] <Ubuntivity> Tex_Nick: Nice! Does that qualifies me to be officially a geek ;)
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> fishscene:  i find nvidia better then ati. but i dont mess with high end ati cards any more. I go all nvidia or intel
[23:13] <fishscene> Ubuntivity, if not, you're a heck of a lot closer to being one :)
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntivity, Only if the queen grants it. ;)
[23:13] <Ubuntivity> fishscene: bear in mind that I ssh a lot 8-)
[23:13] <Tex_Nick> Ubuntivity: you're now a linux geek ;-)
[23:14] <Ubuntivity> wilee-nilee: I think TUX can override the queen LOL!
[23:14] <subcool> wilee-nilee, Linux AMDServer 3.2.0-50-generic #76-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 9 19:03:14 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:14] <fishscene> Dr_Willis: Yea, from what I read, ATI was supposed to have "decent" graphics drivers now, so last night I took the plunge on my 4-year old machine. :) But holy cow... tf2 was unplayable at the absolute lowest settings.
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> subcool, No desktop? that 12.04?
[23:14] <compdoc> fishscene, I havent used ubuntu for gaming, but I would guess the fan speeds up when the card heats up. Sounds liek the card isnt being pushed enough to heat up
[23:14] <Ubuntivity> Tex_Nick: Thanks :)  Now I have to have a 24h-on PC running weechat on #ubuntu :P
[23:15] <subcool> wilee-nilee, yea.. i think so.. that or 12.1
[23:15] <loki_> hello??
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> subcool, This might help, not sure if no X though. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[23:15] <loki_> anyone out there??
[23:16] <loki_> I need help
[23:16] <SuRfDaEmOn> !ask | loki_
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> loki_, State your issue for help.
[23:16] <fishscene> compdoc: That's the exact conclusion I was coming to. But I sincerely suspect the card was being pushed, but it wasn't allowed to cool fast enough, which would cause the extreme lag I was seeing.
[23:16] <Ubuntivity> Welcome loki_
[23:16] <fishscene> Anyway, thanks everyone for your input, I'll look into swapping in an NVIDIA card I have lying around :)
[23:16] <loki_> i have an acer 5740 running ubuntu 12.04 and it will not detect my blutooth card
[23:16] <compdoc> fishscene, I never realized the driver was responsible for cooling.
[23:17] <subcool> willybilly0101, nope
[23:17] <subcool> im working on rebooting. i just thought there was a was to probe the usbs to see whats there..
[23:17] <loki_> the bluetooth card is built into machine
[23:18] <kostkon> loki_, what's the output of:  hcitool dev
[23:18] <loki_> it is blank
[23:18] <fishscene> compdoc: I'm not an expert, I think I stated it incorrectly - sorry about that. It felt like the card wasn't allowed to clock itself up to handle the load, so it didn't need to cool itself.
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> subcool, In general without a desktop the usual access is probably not there, what I see in that blink are gui
[23:19] <loki_> it is not detected
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> link*
[23:19] <kostkon> loki_, did it work in windows?
[23:19] <Left_Turn> !Mount
[23:19] <loki_> yeah
[23:21] <subcool> ok.. lets try something else that needs to work.
[23:21] <subcool> my HDMI isnt pushing audio..
[23:21] <subcool> i think Dr. something told me its a kernel issue, but- i cant seem to find what he had forwarded me a long time ago
[23:22] <motaka2> hello should I instal xfce4 or xubuntu desktop ? whats the diffrence?
[23:22] <holstein> subcool: it might not work.. i would look at the graphics driver..
[23:22] <holstein> motaka2: xubuntu uses xfce.. what is your goal? to have XFCE and unity?
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> motaka2, xfce4 is a little lighter is all.
[23:22] <loki_> any suggestions??
[23:22] <holstein> motaka2: i would just install xfce4... you can always convert xubuntu if you want
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> xubuntu-desktop is xfce+extras
[23:23] <loki_> i dont like windows and dont want to go back
[23:23] <holstein> loki_: it might not be supported by the manufacturer in linux
[23:23] <loki_> was afraid of that
[23:23] <hester> I've installed some software from source but I'm unable to get a working icon to appear on the unity dash.
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> hester:  you made a proper whatever.desktop file for the binaries?
[23:24] <johnj2> If I can use alsamixer but not pavucontrol, what is wrong?
[23:24] <loki_> you how to get dvds to play??
[23:24] <holstein> johnj2: nothing.. maybe you are not using pulse
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> !dvd | loki_
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> loki_:  theres a extra package to install. and a script to run to get dvds playing I recall
[23:25] <hester> Dr_Willis: There was one included, I checked it against the sample found online at help.ubuntu.com
[23:25] <johnj2> Is there some way that I can start using Pulse?
[23:25] <loki_> sweet thanks everybody
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> hester:  could be its got installed to the wromng place, or not installed at all. or the dash menus havent refreshed to show the file yet.
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> hester:  you could copy it to ~/.config/menus/applications-merged/
[23:26] <hester> Dr_Willis: i'm able to run the tool from terminal just fine, so long as specify the full path. I included the full path in the *.desktop file too.
[23:26] <hester> copy what? the .desktop file or the executable?
[23:26] <loki_> any thoughts on reaver??
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> hester:  .desktop files go in that dir. its a user custome menu directory
[23:27] <holstein> loki_: reaver?
[23:27] <loki_> wps cracking tool
[23:27] <[deXter]> Hey all, any recommendations for an Ubuntu friendly Haswell Ultrabook?
[23:27] <hester> aah, I had it in /usr/share/applications/ or something like that.
[23:27] <holstein> loki_: i would ask in an appropriate channel.. maybe networking or security
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> hester:  if theres other desktop files in that dir. then the dash should see it. it might take it some time to find it.
[23:28] <loki_> ah
[23:28] <hester> even after a full restart?
[23:28] <hester> Dr_Willis:
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> hester:  never really noticed. I rarely do stuff dorm source any more.  once you run git.. it should have an icon you can pin to the launcher
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> [deXter], You are not new here and know the channel norms, polls are not part of them. ;)
[23:31] <[deXter]> wilee-nilee, Yes, but this isn't a poll, it's a serious question.
[23:31] <ikonia> [deXter]: this is a serious statement - no poll,
[23:32] <[deXter]> It's *not* a poll.
[23:35] <holstein> [deXter]: i would look for users with that hardware, and ask them.. or just try it live on the hardware first hand
[23:35] <ikonia> [deXter]: you'll need to resarch the hardware of the kit you want
[23:36] <hester> Dr_Willis: no such file or directory... I failed to mention I'm using 13.04
[23:36] <[deXter]> Thanks guys, I guess I'll just  pop into one of the stores and try out a live usb..
[23:37] <tgm4883> I'm not a mod here, and maybe I should just keep my opinion to myself, but I'd have to agree with [deXter] that while this may feel like a poll, it should probably still be allowed. The spirit behind the no poll rule was because people would ask something like "what is the best cd burning software", in which there would be many replies because there are hundreds of different cd burning programs, each with different feature sets. However, he is ask
[23:37] <tgm4883> ing for a recommendation on hardware that works with Ubuntu. Something that there is a limited number of
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> hester:  what file/dirctory are you talking about?
[23:37] <apt-get_install> Hi, can I help multipe folders in one bookmark, like Windows and Explorer's libaries?
[23:37] <apt-get_install> Maybe in an other file manager?
[23:37] <hester> Dr_Willis: sorry,  /home/<me>/.config/menus/applications-merged/
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> apt-get_install:  you could make a direcvtory that contains soft links to other directorues
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> hester:  make the directory then?
[23:38] <apt-get_install> Dr_Willis: i dont wanna have alot of subfolders
[23:38] <holstein> apt-get_install: you can have as many bookmarks as you like..
[23:38] <apt-get_install> you see, i have three disks
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> hester:  that might not be the right place. let me look at my dirs
[23:38] <apt-get_install> i dont wanna search though every bookmark
[23:38] <apt-get_install> that's just stupid
[23:39] <apt-get_install> i want i bookmark, or libary, that contains EVERYTHING in several folders
[23:39] <holstein> apt-get_install: you can mave as many bookmarks as you want, to custom locations
[23:39] <apt-get_install> holstein:but to only one localtion, right?
[23:39] <holstein> apt-get_install: the file manager can be seen as that library
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> hester:  seems i got .menu files in there  not .desktop files, theres some directory that adds custome desktop files. i just cant find it
[23:39] <holstein> apt-get_install: its a bookmark to a location.. im not sure what you are asking
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> hester:  askubuntu.com may have some info on where to put custom launchers
[23:40] <hester> Dr_Willis: ah okay, from what I've found it's the  /usr/share/applications/ dir ... yeah let me poke around there some more. Thanks for your time.
[23:40] <apt-get_install> holstein: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/working-with-libraries
[23:40] <brontosaurusrex> apt-get_install, filemanager ./location1 ./location2 ./locationN < you could script it
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> hester:  theres a user owned similer directory
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> hester:  or just put the .desktop file in your home and see if you can double click it fom there
[23:41] <apt-get_install> brontosaurusrex: holstein: http://cdn.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/25library.png
[23:41] <kostkon> Dr_Willis, it's ~/.local/share/applications
[23:41] <hester> Dr_Willis: I actually went to the orig file and tried the ol' double-click  "there was an error"
[23:41] <apt-get_install> http://cdn.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/26library.png
[23:41] <apt-get_install> like that
[23:41] <holstein> apt-get_install: there is a pictures folder
[23:42] <holstein> apt-get_install: you can use symlinks.. or another filemanager.. i can think of a few ways to emulate that
[23:42] <apt-get_install> holstein: but i cant add different locations to the picture bookmark
[23:42] <apt-get_install> holstein: yes, that's what i wondered
[23:42] <apt-get_install> and no, symlinks are not suitible
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> you could put a link to your other picture directory, in your Pictures folder i guess. ;)
[23:43] <holstein> apt-get_install: you can add symlinks inside that pictutes folder.. thus, being able to get to them, as stated, from that pictures bookmark
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> no idea how it would be differnt really.
[23:43] <holstein> apt-get_install: sim links *are* suitable.. though, you might now want to use them
[23:43] <brontosaurusrex> apt-get_install, i'am pretty sure kde/dolphin can do it (and i'am pretty sure its animated as well)
[23:43] <apt-get_install> i dont want to have like four symlinks and sunfolders
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> fuse has some sort of 'overlay fs' thing where you can murge differnt directories into one huge directory.. it can get to be a huge mess easy however
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> id rather have the links.
[23:43] <apt-get_install> *subfolders
[23:43] <holstein> apt-get_install: i dont want libraies ;).. try dophin...
[23:43] <holstein> libraries*
[23:44] <Milos_Lamont> Hello everyone, Milos_Lamonthere and i'm here and ready to DDoS.
[23:45] <brontosaurusrex> lmao
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> he DDosed his selff off the network. ;)
[23:49] <brontosaurusrex> apt-get_install, actually now i'am curious, how does it look when you clicky such a library bookmark?
[23:55] <apt-get_install> maybe this? http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/display-multiple-folders-content-in-one.html
[23:58] <brontosaurusrex> apt-get_install, right
[23:58] <apt-get_install> problem with installing
[23:59] <apt-get_install> some deps that doesnt exists :(