[00:00] <Sam1337> Somebody told me that Ubuntu means "can't install Debian" is this true?
[00:00] <Dr_willis> Sam1337,  its african for Friends I think.. check ubuntu.org for  the real info
[00:01] <Sam1337> I've been pronouncing Ubuntu wrong for ages and I've only just found out how to pronounce it lol
[00:02] <jdong> Sam1337: wrongly ;-)
[00:02] <Dr_willis> Like all the ways people in the stores Pronounce 'linux'
[00:02] <jdong> Sam1337: and lol @ that explanation of Ubuntu :)
[00:02] <BluesKaj> shaffy, ubuntu uses the gnome desktop , kubuntu uses the kde desktop , but both have the same name feisty or gutsy or whatever release and use the same 'kernel"
[00:03] <Sam1337> I pronounce Linux as lye nucks is that right?
[00:03] <Dr_willis> Linux is all about 'Layers and legos' :)
[00:03] <Dr_willis> Layers of legos even..
[00:03] <jdong> Sam1337: Linus himself pronounces it with a soft i, linn-ux
[00:03] <Dr_willis> where lego = bits of software
[00:03] <shaffy> BluesKaj: thanks for the clarification.
[00:03] <Dr_willis> Lynn-uxx
[00:03] <Dr_willis>  :)
[00:03] <BluesKaj> Sam1337, no it's like lynn -ucks
[00:03] <shaffy> so can i install openoffice2.3 from adept-manager?
[00:04] <Dr_willis> !info open-office
[00:04] <ubotu> Package open-office does not exist in gutsy
[00:04] <ardchoille> shaffy: Are you on Gutsy?
[00:04] <Sam1337> Why do so many people call it lynn -icks?
[00:04] <Dr_willis> Linix ? :)
[00:04] <purpleposeidon> I got 403 forbidden errors when I tried to update! :O
[00:05] <BluesKaj> yeah, heard that too
[00:05] <Sam1337> Because they are stupid I think.
[00:05] <Daisuke-Ido> a step below Minix?
[00:05] <jdong> Sam1337: because it rhymes with Unix and Minix better
[00:05] <Daisuke-Ido> purpleposeidon: so did the rest of us, calm down.
[00:05]  * purpleposeidon calms down
[00:05] <ardchoille> purpleposeidon: Lots of folks are getting the same error
[00:05] <jdong> !sambabug
[00:05] <ubotu> A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[00:05] <manager> hi
[00:05]  * Daisuke-Ido hands purpleposeidon a cup of tea
[00:05] <shaffy> ardchoille: i'm not sure how i find out if i am on Gutsy
[00:06] <ardchoille> shaffy: lsb_release -a | grep Release
[00:06] <purpleposeidon> Hmmm, but I can't upgrade the rest of the stuff. :/
[00:06] <pault> i didn't get 403 error, but some message about failed dependencies
[00:06] <shaffy> ardchoille: it just says release 7.04
[00:06] <PriceChild> !sambabug | pault
[00:06] <ubotu> pault: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[00:06] <shaffy> and that no LSB modules are available
[00:07] <Daisuke-Ido> shaffy: then you're on feisty
[00:07] <purpleposeidon> So, uhm, why don't the devs just hide the updates?
[00:07] <ardchoille> shaffy: 7.10 or 7.04?
[00:07] <jereme> purpleposeidon: add --fix-missing to your upgrade as the error suggests
[00:07] <shaffy> 7.04
[00:07] <jereme> purpleposeidon: that will make it ignore the offending packages
[00:08] <ardchoille> shaffy: Given the size of OO.o, if you want 2.3, I'd recommend upgrading to Gutsy. But, it's your call.
[00:08] <purpleposeidon> bah, --ignore-missing would be a better option name! :P
[00:08]  * Dr_willis pokes Minataku
[00:08] <jereme> purpleposeidon: well aren't you just a picky one today
[00:08] <ardchoille> shaffy: However, do not attempt to use gutsy sources in Feisty, that is dangerous
[00:08] <shaffy> ardchoille: what's the advantage to Gutsy?
[00:09] <jereme> shaffy: updated packages
[00:09] <ardchoille> shaffy: I haven't seen any yet
[00:09] <jereme> ardchoille: new file browser
[00:09] <Dr_willis> Gutsy is da latest and greatest. :)
[00:09] <ardchoille> well, other than newer versions of apps
[00:09] <Sam1337> Gutsy has compiz fusion :D
[00:09] <Dr_willis> new kernel, new drivers, new porn,, err.. scratch that...
[00:09] <ardchoille> Sam1337: I wouldn't call that an "advantage"
[00:09] <Sam1337> Gutsy supports drive encryption :D
[00:09] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: hahaha
[00:09] <jereme> the addition of the Dolphin file browser is a big difference
[00:10] <purpleposeidon> jereme: No, I'm being practical. "--fix-missing" sounds like it would do something else
[00:10] <Dr_willis> jereme,  and its easy to FIX that :)
[00:10] <jereme> compiz runs like dog crap with KDE.... last I tried
[00:10] <Dr_willis> !dolphin
[00:10] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[00:10] <Dr_willis> I have no real issues with compiz. (a few little bugs)
[00:10] <jereme> Dr_willis: I don't need to fix it.. I like dolphin better
[00:10]  * Dr_willis writes a perscription for jereme's head injury.
[00:10] <Dr_willis> :)
[00:10] <pault> purpleposeidon: i agree, but do you really want to help the user? :)
[00:10] <ardchoille> hahaha
[00:10] <shaffy> can someone tell me how to upgrade to Gutsy then?
[00:10] <shaffy> !info Gutsy
[00:11] <ardchoille> !upgrade
[00:11] <Greenery> my X keep oepning vesa driver although xorg.conf was set to driver nvidia. Any idea?
[00:11] <Dr_willis> Greenery,  how do you know its using the vesa driver?
[00:11] <ubotu> Package gutsy does not exist in gutsy
[00:11] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[00:11] <jereme> Greenery: get an nvidia card ;)
[00:11] <Sam1337> !dstats gutsy
[00:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dstats gutsy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:11] <jereme> !vista
[00:11] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[00:12] <Greenery> well support from nvidia said so
[00:12] <Sam1337> Lol Vista has capatalism written all over it.
[00:13] <jereme> !capitalism
[00:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about capitalism - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:13] <Dr_willis> AnarchyLinux
[00:13] <jereme> haha
[00:13] <jereme> !communism
[00:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about communism - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:13] <Sam1337> Jereme please pm the bot instead of spamming up the chat.
[00:14] <jereme> Sam1337: my apologies
[00:14] <jereme> just feeling a little loopy late on a friday
[00:14] <Sam1337> It's Saturday.
[00:14] <jereme> that's debatable
[00:14] <Sam1337> It's been Saturday for nearly 15 minutes now.
[00:14] <Greenery> i was trying to use the proprietery beta driver from nvidia for my 8800GT but X won't load dues to GLX error
[00:14] <jereme> and it will be saturday in 7 hours and 45 minutes
[00:15] <jereme> GMT man
[00:15] <shaffy> so is Gutsy officially released for kubuntu?
[00:15] <jereme> shaffy: yup.. has been for a bit now
[00:15] <Sam1337> Why anybody would use any timezone other than gmt on a public irc channel is beyond my understanding.
[00:15] <shaffy> jereme: it's just weird that my system didn't ask me to upgrade to
[00:16] <shaffy> *to it
[00:16] <jereme> Sam1337: well the simple fact is that the sun isnt' down, and I don't work nights or weekends, and therefor it is not saturday morning for me
[00:17] <jereme> shaffy: see the upgrade link in the topic
[00:17] <BluesKaj> Sam1337, most ppl like their time locally :)
[00:17] <jereme> Sam1337: though it would satisfy you if I used GMT, the other some odd thousand people in my life wouldn't so much appreciate the sudden change
[00:18] <jereme> so forgive me if I don't adjust for a channel full of people I don't know
[00:19] <jereme> and... scene.
[00:19] <MilitantPotato> bravo.
[00:19]  * jereme bows
[00:20] <Greenery> anyone with Kubuntu and 8800GT here can use the latest beta driver from nvidia without any problem?
[00:20] <Dr_willis> I got an 8800 - but dont use the latest beta. :)  sorry
[00:21] <Greenery> u got the GT?
[00:21] <Dr_willis> i got a gtsxxx :)
[00:21] <Dr_willis> and yes its called a XXX :P
[00:21] <Greenery> heh okies
[00:21] <shaffy> jereme: thanks.  i'm on my way.
[00:21] <Dr_willis> I think.. it may be a gtxxx
[00:22] <Greenery> XFX card eh?
[00:22] <Dr_willis> Of course theres the new 8800's comming oyut soon.
[00:22] <Sam1337> The 8800gt looks well good. I hope that nvidia makes a new driver compatable with it and while its at it they should open the source of their driver to.
[00:22] <Dr_willis> yep. they had the best reviews at the time.
[00:22] <Dr_willis> I wouldent hold your breath for the OpenSource part. :P
[00:22] <Greenery> they've just released the beta driver for the 8800GT card, but seems like my X won't load after installing it
[00:23] <Sam1337> Is the fglrx driver open sourced yet?
[00:23] <Dr_willis> Sam1337,  not that i am aware of.
[00:23] <jereme> open sores
[00:24] <Dr_willis> i thought they were working on some licensing changes.. but i did not think they were going opensourced.
[00:24] <Dr_willis> But it will take a LOT of changes befor i ever buy an ati card again.
[00:24] <Rukus> i have two xorg processes.  any suggestions?
[00:24] <jereme> supposedly the newest ATI card is a big change
[00:24] <MilitantPotato> Rukus: using the new ATI drivers I take it?
[00:24] <Rukus> no
[00:24] <Rukus> using propritary with fglrx
[00:25] <MilitantPotato> built from the ati source drivers?
[00:25] <Sam1337> Ati cards are slower, noisier and hotter.
[00:25] <MilitantPotato> 8.43.2?
[00:25] <Dr_willis> It will take more then just a few changes to get ATI back into my good graces. heh
[00:25] <Rukus> built with the drivers that came with gutsy
[00:25] <MilitantPotato> Ah, no idea then.
[00:25] <Rukus> 8.43.2 are suppsoed to be better are they not?
[00:25] <Rukus> to fix my xorg problem i heard
[00:26] <Rukus> but, i dont wanna get into something from one small thread
[00:27] <Rukus> and of 512mb of ram, ubuntu uses it all
[00:27] <BluesKaj> Sam1337, the restricted ati driver in gutsy works better on the low -end onboards , the 8.43 driver works best on higher end ati seperate graphics cards
[00:27] <Rukus> is that normal?
[00:28] <Sam1337> BluesKaj so the 8.43 is open source then?
[00:28] <JavaMan> Hi All - anyone seen problems with update -  like won't complete?
[00:30] <Greenery> yup wait for the next update to fix that issue i guess
[00:31] <JavaMan> sounds like catch-22
[00:32] <vigil> hola
[00:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> oi
[00:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> !sambabug | JavaMan
[00:33] <ubotu> JavaMan: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[00:37] <Minataku> Dr_willis: :D
[00:37] <JavaMan> Thanks !
[00:40] <BluesKaj> Sam1337, nothe 8.43 is the ATI proprietary linux driver
[00:45] <Knoogle> I have a issue with Dolphin I was hoping someone could help me with....   When Mapping a Drive to a SMB share in Dolphin I can't create files on the Share...     But When using the Same Credentials on Konqueror it works just fine...
[00:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> !d3lphin
[00:47] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[00:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> i recommend following that
[00:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> because d3lphin is horrible.
[00:47] <Daisuke_Laptop> mind you, once kde4 drops, you can use dolphin, which is a much much nicer experience
[00:48] <Knoogle> Well it seems to be a Bug in Dolphin..  That I can't copy files to a SMB share..  Of course I haven't tried doing the same to sftp
[00:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> again, it isn't dolphin
[00:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> dolphin works
[00:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> d3lphin has actually been abandoned for some time, as i understand it
[00:50] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  did ya get the package?
[00:50] <Dr_willis> Knoogle,  ive had all sorts of issues with the dolphin manager.
[00:51] <Knoogle> Ahhh, Now I get it...   You may want to try out that samba-fuse tool. it jiust seems to work better for me then the built in samba browser features of these filemanagers
[00:52] <Knoogle> Will do..  I was just wondering if I was doing something screwed...
[00:52] <MilitantPotato> How do I get the small volume control icon back in system tray?
[00:53] <Dr_willis> run kmixer (i think)
[00:53] <Dr_willis> kmix :)
[00:54] <Knoogle> Go To the Launcher --> Under Multimedia there is kmix Also
[00:54] <MilitantPotato> awsome, thanks.
[00:55] <MilitantPotato> t
[00:55] <ForeverZero> Is there any way to play Chess with someone using Windows?
[00:55] <MilitantPotato> now to figure out why my volume keys stopped working
[00:55] <Dr_willis> ForeverZero,  theres several free chess programs out. :) but i dont use any.
[00:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> ForeverZero: get out a chess set and sit down to play a game
[00:55] <GE> BluesKaj, if by ATI driver, you mean fglrx, I'm not even past the live cd phase, and 'ati' doesn't work
[00:55] <ForeverZero> I want to use the "MSN gaming zone", but it only likes iexplore.exe , maybe I can run that on wine?
[00:56] <BluesKaj> no GE , in xorg it's called ati , not fglrx
[00:56] <Dr_willis> ForeverZero,  i belive theres places other then MSN's lameing zone. :)
[00:56] <GE> yeah, tired that already
[00:56] <GE> *tried
[00:57] <GE> error is "No devices detected"
[01:00] <GE> I'm trying to make the kubuntu livecd start, I have a radeon FireGL V5200 (X1600) and X kinda starts, then crashes, when I try to just type 'startx' It load up so I get a mouse, can move the mouse around, then crashes back to the terminal.  Nothing in the logs.  Any ideas?
[01:05] <gon> !easyeclipse
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easyeclipse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <kak[ZzZ]> ok
[01:05] <kak[ZzZ]> i have a question
[01:06] <[ka]killer> why the hell does my gamma keep getting screwed up
[01:06] <Minataku> Dr_Willis: I did
[01:06] <Minataku> However, both A500s seem to be broken
[01:07] <[ka]killer> when i lock the computer, adn come back, the gamma on my monitor is all screwed up
[01:07] <Dr_willis> well i had one working befor i boxed it up
[01:08] <[ka]killer> its way to hi and everythign is much brighter then it should be
[01:08] <Dr_willis> Its possible its just a power supply issue.
[01:08] <Minataku> Where is the A1200?
[01:08] <Dr_willis> its still looking for a decent box. the UPS store dident want me to use the other box i had. They got some  stricter rules now.
[01:08] <Minataku> Heh
[01:08] <Dr_willis> and i got 3 box's of disks.
[01:08] <Minataku> Coo
[01:08] <Dr_willis> aparently paperwrapped box's is not a good thing to them.
[01:08] <Minataku> Heh
[01:09] <Dr_willis> But i DO rember one of those 500's working. I even played some game on it for about 10 min in the garrage befor i packed it up
[01:09] <BluesKaj> paper fibers cause minute scratches on discs
[01:09] <Minataku> Hm
[01:10] <Minataku> Well, when I tried them, neither were
[01:10] <Minataku> And I've stripped one for parts
[01:10] <Dr_willis> bummer. Its hard to tell if the PS's are good either. since they got no fans.
[01:10] <Minataku> Since it was a total mess
[01:10] <Dr_willis> Yep. :) that was the parts machine.
[01:10] <Minataku> Bingo
[01:10] <Dr_willis> I got a CD32 also i need to pack up
[01:10] <Minataku> It's keyboard was nice, though
[01:10] <Minataku> In fact, I swapped the keyboard out of the messy one into the good one
[01:11] <Dr_willis> Its just sad that C= never really did use normal PC keybsards..  Actually the CD32 CAN use a PS2 keyboard.
[01:11] <Dr_willis> and Mouse I think.
[01:11] <Minataku> It was in pretty nice condition, unlike the rest of the parts machine XD
[01:11] <BluesKaj> well, gonna watch some tv for a while ...BBL
[01:11] <Minataku> But I do have an ultrawide DIP-64 68000 in my collection now :D
[01:11] <Dr_willis> But the CD32 is missing its PS. but it does have a CD and with a parnet cable you can get the other amigas to use the cd.
[01:12] <Minataku> Coo
[01:12] <Dr_willis> Been doing the rounds at work looking for another nice cardbord box.
[01:12] <Minataku> Heehee, thx ^^
[01:13] <Dr_willis> It sat here boxed up for like 3 weeks.. then one day i tripped over it as i was going to the  grocery store. :)
[01:14] <MilitantPotato> where do I modify media keys?
[01:14] <MilitantPotato> on the keyboard
[01:14] <ibrahim> hi everyone
[01:14] <ibrahim> ı want to ask sth.
[01:15] <ibrahim> is there anyone who use groovy & grails
[01:15] <Dr_willis> what the heck is Grovy and Grails?
[01:16] <ibrahim> it is agile web development tool
[01:20] <ibrahim> i think no one knows :(
[01:21] <Minataku> It sounds like one of those lousy Web 2.0 dev things like "Ruby on Rails"
[01:21] <Minataku> They're extremely poor
[01:21] <ibrahim> realy ?
[01:21] <ibrahim> why ?
[01:21] <Minataku> I would suggest not using them at all unless your project will only be used by a small amount of users
[01:21] <Minataku> Ruby on Rails in particular doesn't scale well at all
[01:22] <ibrahim> groovy & grails is design for java platform and seems like ruby on rails
[01:22] <ibrahim> did you use any of them minataku ?
[01:23] <Minataku> No, but I know of a project that basically collapsed because of Ruby on Rails' poor scalability
[01:23] <Minataku> Twas called "Danbooru"
[01:23] <Minataku> Eventually the whole thing had to be rewritten from scratch without using Ruby at all
[01:24] <ibrahim> hımm thanks alot minakatu
[01:24] <Minataku> The number of people using the app caused the server, a quad-core monsterbox to flail like a PC/XT
[01:24] <Minataku> lol
[01:25] <Minataku> np
[01:25] <Minataku> That said, I know nothing about the one you mentioned
[01:25] <Minataku> It may be good, but Java isn't known for being incredibly fast, especially in web applets
[01:27] <ibrahim> for the grails framework the developers develop a new language wihich's syntax is similar to
[01:27] <ibrahim> java
[01:27] <maduser> when i upgrade, everything will upgrade except something with samabia if i try to upgrade it i get an error
[01:27] <ibrahim> and its called
[01:27] <ibrahim> groovy
[01:27] <ibrahim> its like ruby
[01:27] <maduser> everything will upgrade except sambia
[01:27] <Minataku> Python is better
[01:27] <Minataku> !sambabug | maduser
[01:27] <ubotu> maduser: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[01:27] <maduser> thanks
[01:27] <Minataku> np
[01:28] <ibrahim> you use python ?
[01:28] <inversekinetix> what sets kubuntu apart from ubuntu?
[01:28] <Minataku> inversekinetix: KDE instead of GNOME
[01:29] <inversekinetix> basically nothing other than the gui
[01:29] <Minataku> ibrahim: No, but I've seen things done in both, and Python is a lot better
[01:29] <Minataku> inversekinetix: Yep
[01:29] <bazhang> inversekinetix: superior apps, better integration, better looking, more customizable, no brown :}
[01:30] <inversekinetix> why do some apps fail to run on on other desktops?
[01:30] <Minataku> bazhang: No GNOME is as far as one needs to go
[01:30] <Minataku> That's the dealmaker right there
[01:30] <Minataku> lol
[01:30] <inversekinetix> can i use compiz with it?
[01:30] <bazhang> Minataku: some would disagree, but I am agnostic :}
[01:31] <Minataku> lol
[01:31] <bazhang> I like em both
[01:31] <bazhang> just installed ubuntu on my other machine
[01:31] <Minataku> I hate GNOME
[01:31] <Minataku> I'm also extremely displeased with GTK
[01:31] <soberon> Good evening... please: Amarok do not play radio streams; says no-decoders How can I fix it?
[01:31] <inversekinetix> get decoders
[01:32] <bazhang> soberon: what streams are you trying to play mms?
[01:32] <soberon> somafm
[01:32] <inversekinetix> synpatic >>> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:32] <bazhang> adept in this case
[01:33] <soberon> adept?... what i must look for?
[01:34] <bazhang> kubuntu-restricted-extras soberon
[01:34] <bazhang> also available from the command line sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:35] <bazhang> try installing those soberon
[01:35] <soberon> Thanks a lot... so restricted extras will install decoders OK?
[01:36] <bazhang> soberon: likely will do; if not you can get the medibuntu repositories as well
[01:36] <bazhang> try it and see soberon
[01:36] <soberon> all right!! Thanks again an see you
[01:37] <bazhang> soberon:  no worries :}
[01:37] <soberon> good look bazhang
[01:37] <ibrahim> thanks alot minataku
[01:37] <ibrahim> see you cav
[01:43] <[ka]killer> ok i have 6 files to update and it keeps failing
[01:44] <bazhang> !sambabug | [ka]killer
[01:44] <ubotu> [ka]killer: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[01:44] <[ka]killer> k
[01:44] <[ka]killer> tx
[01:44] <[ka]killer> ty*
[01:45] <bazhang> np
[01:45] <bazhang> should be fixed in short order
[01:45] <[ka]killer> k
[01:49] <tuxwulf> How to fix the "error committing changes" situation when updating with adept?
[01:51] <tuxwulf> Mmmm... CLI rules, stilll...
[01:51] <CPrompt^> i'm running Feisty and there's an update to Samba.  But when I download it, there's errors and it quits.  Says 403 Forbidden.  Any ideas?
[01:51] <tuxwulf> CPrompt^: See a few lines up ...
[01:52] <tuxwulf> !sambabug | CPrompt^
[01:52] <ubotu> CPrompt^: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[01:52] <CPrompt^> tuxwulf : just came in and I don't have anything  except you saying "CLI rules"
[01:52] <CPrompt^> ah....good stuff.  Thanks!  ubotu comes to the rescue  LOL
[01:52] <CPrompt^> thanks again
[01:53] <jmichaelx> anyone else getting '403 forbidden' when trying to upgrade packages from the security.ubuntu.com repos?
[01:53] <tuxwulf> CPrompt^: ....YOu do not get some history lines when you come in...? Oh I guess that is optonal then...
[01:53] <tuxwulf> !sambabug | jmichaelx
[01:53] <ubotu> jmichaelx: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[01:53] <tuxwulf> Spread the word....
[01:54] <jmichaelx> tuxwulf: ty much, kind sir
[01:54] <NightBird> so I take it this was a pretty serious defect then, eh?
[01:54] <Daisuke-Ido> could we get an op to put it in the topic?
[01:54] <tuxwulf> I guess it must be ....
[01:54] <Daisuke-Ido> or...  an on-join notice?
[01:55] <NightBird> Daisuke-Ido: on join notice == spam for the most part, and people rarely read the topic :-/
[01:55] <jmichaelx> i hope they're not too bad, because i have those upgrades installed on my lappy....
[01:55] <jmichaelx> i upgraded that machine early this morning
[01:57] <NightBird> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/163042 << this may be the bug
[01:57] <jmichaelx> does compiz still kill superkaraba widgets in KDE?
[01:57] <jmichaelx> superkaramba
[01:57] <Daisuke-Ido> NightBird: you're right :\
[01:58] <Daisuke-Ido> but spamming the bot message right now is just as bad
[01:58] <NightBird> hm... but this says it's the dapper repos
[01:58] <jmichaelx> dapper and edgy
[01:58] <NightBird> oh, no, feisty and gutsy are also affected
[01:58] <jmichaelx> it says feisty and gutsy are ok
[01:59] <NightBird> "Turns out that upstream's fix for CVE-2007-4572 was incomplete and Feisty and Gutsy are also affected. As such, feisty and gutsy packages have been disabled. I have also linked to the upstream bug report. Updated packages without this patch will be provided for all releases. CVE-2007-4572 is a DoS but believed to not be exploitable."
[01:59] <NightBird> from the comment section
[01:59] <jmichaelx> ahh
[02:00] <jmichaelx> does anyone know if compiz/compiz-fusion still kills superkaramba widgets in KDE?
[02:00] <NightBird> jmichaelx: does it appear to be doing so?
[02:01] <jmichaelx> NightBird: i do not have it installed..... but beryl did in feisty. maybe my question should have been more specific
[02:02] <Harahu> Hi all
[02:03] <NightBird> jmichaelx: I don't know... you could always install compiz and find out :P
[02:03] <NightBird> hi Harahu
[02:03] <jmichaelx> well i just upgraded the video card on my very out-of-date box to a PCI GeForce 6200, thank God for envy
[02:04] <jmichaelx> NightBird: that might be what i do to find out :-D
[02:04] <Harahu> Hello Night Bird. What is the most recent stable Kubuntu OS (mean out of testing and such)?
[02:04] <NightBird> 7.10 is the current version of Kubuntu
[02:04] <jmichaelx> 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon
[02:06] <Harahu> So it is stable now,  I thought it was still in beta, I must have mis read something.
[02:06] <NightBird> Harahu: 7.10 has been out of beta since october
[02:07] <Harahu> Then I did misread something.
[02:07] <NightBird> (the way the numbers go is the year.month of release.  so 7.10 means it got released in October of 2007)
[02:08] <Harahu> I see, I was confused 'cause on the site it said the the release before it was 4.sometime, well that explains it.
[02:17] <sfears> hello
[02:22] <Harahu> Are any of Y'all developers?
[02:22] <Harahu> (Just wondering.)
[02:29] <NickPresta> Harahu, developers of what? Kubuntu?
[02:30] <Harahu> Yes.
[02:30] <Jucato> there might be some lurking around. but this is mostly the user channel
[02:31] <Harahu> I see.
[02:32] <sherwin> hey, guys. Just did a clean installation on a friends computer. He had Suse 10.2. I preserved his home directory. Everything works fine except when a cd or any external medium is put in, he gets a double pop up asking what he wants to do. How do i make this behave normally?
[02:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> how many times have you asked that now?
[02:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> sherwin: have you sprinkled the chicken blood on the installation media?
[02:33] <sherwin> ummm.. no
[02:33] <sherwin> trying to quit :)
[02:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> hmm
[02:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> have you danced around naked with a stick clenched in your teeth?
[02:33] <sammy-afk> so kde4-beta 3 packages were available the day kde4-beta3 was announced. kde4-beta4 was announced before halloween, are there no plans to release packages for beta4? can't seem to find any forum posts with answers other than 'compile it', which I guess is an option.
[02:33] <sherwin> i think there is something left over from the suse home partition that is messing with things,. just need to know what to delete.. Anyone got a real answer?
[02:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> i was just making sure you weren't trying to run windows
[02:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> lemme think for a second
[02:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah
[02:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> is the disc reading at two mount points?
[02:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> that could possibly explain it
[02:34] <sherwin> hang on, let me check the fstab
[02:35] <sherwin> no. Example: i put in a thumb drive, i get two windows asking what i want to do with it.
[02:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> two copies of the same window, i'm assuming
[02:35] <sherwin> yes, except one has a (2) in the titlebar
[02:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> right
[02:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> hmm
[02:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> i should probably use kde more than i do
[02:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> i would be more useful in this
[02:36] <sammy> sherwin: when you say preserved, how exactly did you go about that? did the user log into kde before you copied over ~/.kde, or was it in place before he logged in the first time?
[02:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> but, not knowing what suse puts in its home partition...
[02:37] <sammy> are there any other users on the machine that you can login and try to duplicate the behavior? that'll at least narrow it down to his personal settings.
[02:37] <sherwin> i left the /home partition intactr, formatted the root partition, performed a clean install and mounted the old home partition, using the same username
[02:37] <sammy> and the kde versions were identical?
[02:37] <sherwin> probably not... everything else works fine, though. I assume there is one config file i need to delete and let kde rebuild it on next boot
[02:38] <sammy> that's really weird. maybe try grepping everything in ~/.kde for things like mount or whatever the device name is, like cdrom or sda1
[02:39] <sherwin> sammy: can you help me with formatting? not usre how to use grep
[02:42] <sammy> check ~/.kde/config/medianotifierrc
[02:43] <sammy> that seems like the place to start. btw grep is "grep string file" so "grep mount *" or "grep mount * */* */*/*" etc. there's probably a better way of searching recursively, using 'for each' or some such
[02:43] <Kalamarenku> konversation won't allow me connect to other servers! Why ? anybody knows how to correct that?
[02:44] <sammy> oh. grep -r checks recursively.
[02:44]  * sammy pets the manpage
[02:44] <Jucato> Kalamarenku: how are you trying to connect to other servers?
[02:44] <Kalamarenku> by using the command /server eu.undernet.org
[02:44]  * Jucato throws an -i at sammy too
[02:45] <Jucato> Kalamarenku: I don't think that really is a command that Konversation recognizes. Have you tried File -> Quick Connect?
[02:45] <Kalamarenku> it works with mIRC in windows.. ssame system ... it should work on konversation too
[02:45] <Kalamarenku> jucato yes
[02:46] <Jucato> oops sorry bout that
[02:48] <BluesKaj> Kalamarenku, konversation requires manual server setup
[02:48] <Kalamarenku> ok did that
[02:48] <Kalamarenku> and yes it recognizes the command
[02:49] <Kalamarenku> it works fine for freenode
[02:49]  * Jucato can connect to other servers, but not with the /server command
[02:49] <BluesKaj> freenode is the default konversation server
[02:50] <Kalamarenku> i know
[02:55] <FroggyTheGreat> I've got some install questions, if anyone can help...
[02:56] <MilitantPotato> My volume keys still won't work, I can't even get them to bind now :(
[02:56] <MilitantPotato> if i hit the volume up key my curser flashes when it's in a text window
[02:56] <flodine> i really like kde
[02:56] <MilitantPotato> it's registering a keypress but it's obviously confused as to which
[02:56] <FroggyTheGreat> gparted made my new partition ext2, but my data partition is already ext3.  Is there a difference I'd notice?
[02:57] <MilitantPotato> !ex3
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ex3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <MilitantPotato> !ext3
[02:57] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[02:57] <FroggyTheGreat> !ext2
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <MilitantPotato> try googling EXT3 vs EXT2
[02:59] <FroggyTheGreat> Got it.  ext3 is ext2 with journaling.
[02:59] <FroggyTheGreat> Considering how often I hit that bad memory sector and freeze, I want ext3.
[03:01] <MilitantPotato> this is frustraiting
[03:02] <MilitantPotato> i can bind all the other media keys to volume up and down, just not the ones that worked earlier today
[03:04] <FroggyTheGreat> Nothing quite like that moment of terror when you hit "install" and wonder "I did pick the right partition to format, right?"
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> heh
[03:05] <FroggyTheGreat> ...even though I double-checked.
[03:06] <MilitantPotato> yea
[03:07] <MilitantPotato> I whiped about 4 years of pictures e-books and random stuff I'd gathered doing htat
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> yech.
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> always make backups..
[03:08] <FroggyTheGreat> Backups, by and large, are made.
[03:16] <MilitantPotato> well
[03:16] <MilitantPotato> with xev it's registering a keypress
[03:17] <MilitantPotato> KDE is just ignoring it, lovely.
[03:32] <MilitantPotato> meh.
[03:33] <MilitantPotato> Anyone have an idea why xev registers my volume up and down, but I can't bind them in Kmix
[03:33] <MilitantPotato> mute works fine though.
[03:35] <BigIron> #singles
[03:35] <BigIron> #singles
[03:41] <kijutsu> My motherboard (a8v deluxe) has a built in sound card.  In the BIOS it's disabled, it seems that Kubuntu is ignoring BIOS settings and re-enabling the onboard card (VIA 8237), however I also have a SBLive! card installed.  I want to use the SBLive! as my main card and disable the Via 8237 entirely.  How would I go about doing this?  I have no sound output at all from the SBlive!.
[03:42] <ignoramus> Help! I can't update --> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[03:44] <MilitantPotato>  !xmodmap
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmodmap - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <MilitantPotato> !xmod
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <ignoramus> Got this in Konsole:Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[03:48] <ignoramus> neither option fixes the problem
[03:49] <Daisuke-Ido> oi
[03:49] <Daisuke-Ido> !sambabug | ignoramus
[03:49] <ubotu> ignoramus: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[03:49] <Daisuke-Ido> i should just hotkey that
[03:50] <ignoramus> daisuke-ido: so i should just ignore this?
[03:50] <Daisuke-Ido> ignoramus: for now
[03:51] <ignoramus> daisuke-ido: thank you.  at least i know it wasn't something i screwed up, then XD
[03:51] <ignoramus> gnite all
[03:53] <MilitantPotato> :(
[03:54] <MilitantPotato>     174         0x1008ff11 (XF86AudioLowerVolume)
[03:54] <MilitantPotato>     176         0x1008ff13 (XF86AudioRaiseVolume)
[03:54] <MilitantPotato> yet they don't work, I don't get it.
[03:56] <MilitantPotato> Is anyone willing to help?
[04:02] <sheldonc> any chance we'll see newer version of libsoprano in the repos/
[04:02] <sheldonc> ?
[04:03] <Dr_willis> proberly not.
[04:03] <Dr_willis> perhaps in backports. :) but normally ubuntu does updates every 6 mo.
[04:10] <MilitantPotato> :(
[04:11] <MilitantPotato> willis any idea why KDE would ignore a keypress?
[04:12] <Dr_willis> Never noticed. :) it may be more of an X issue then KDE.
[04:12] <Tm_T> MilitantPotato: what you mean by ignore
[04:12] <MilitantPotato> it's being detected with xev
[04:12] <Dr_willis> But i do seem to recall my laptop/media keys doing that XF86 Raise/Lower stuff.. and they worked.
[04:12] <MilitantPotato> Well, I can't bind them to volume up and down
[04:12] <Tm_T> roger
[04:13] <Dr_willis> I got a knob on my speakers. :) so  i dont mess with the stuff much
[04:13] <Dr_willis> i wonder if the thing would work properly with gnome.
[04:13] <MilitantPotato> I can check.
[04:13] <Tm_T> yuck
[04:13] <darksider415> Same here.. Although I wish my play/pause, etc.. buttons on the notebook would work under Gutsy, like they did under Feisty and Gutsy until Tribe 4...
[04:14] <MilitantPotato> state 0x10, keycode 174 (keysym 0x1008ff11, XF86AudioLowerVolume)      174         0x1008ff11 (XF86AudioLowerVolume)
[04:16] <MilitantPotato> pressing the keys causes the text curser to flicker
[04:17] <ubuntu> !info compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:17] <ubotu> compizconfig-settings-manager: Compiz configuration settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2+git20070912-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 498 kB, installed size 3268 kB
[04:17] <ubuntu> !info compizconfig-settings-manager feisty
[04:17] <ubotu> Package compizconfig-settings-manager does not exist in feisty
[04:17] <ubuntu> hmm
[04:17] <altg> hie all
[04:17]  * ubuntu sips a coffee
[04:19] <genii> Hi gang :)
[04:19] <MilitantPotato> brb ill see if it works in gnome
[04:20] <Kalamarenku> are you guys able to connect to other servers?
[04:20] <Kalamarenku> can you connect to undernet?
[04:20] <Jucato> give me a server addy and I'll try
[04:20] <Kalamarenku> type /server SantaAna.CA.US.Undernet.org
[04:21] <Kalamarenku> or type /server eu.Undernet.org
[04:21] <MilitantPotato> it works perfectly in Gnome
[04:21] <altg> im french, recently under linux, and only under kubuntu for 6 months
[04:21] <Jucato> Kalamarenku: yes, but again, not using /server
[04:22] <Kalamarenku> XCHAT?
[04:22] <Jucato> konversation
[04:22] <Kalamarenku> Jucato: I have tried everything...
[04:22] <altg> why does he speak of gnone in this kubuntu chan ??
[04:22] <Jucato> oh I've tried using /server eu.undernet.org now
[04:22] <Kalamarenku> Jucato: I have added it with quick connect with config...is not working
[04:22] <MilitantPotato> because it was mentioned my problem might be caused by Xserver
[04:23] <Kalamarenku> Konversation , XCHAT can be installed in Kubuntu ...
[04:23] <Jucato> Kalamarenku: [12:22] [Welcome] Welcome to the UnderNet IRC Network, Jucato
[04:23] <Kalamarenku> altg after all it is Linux, and is Ubuntu....
[04:23] <MilitantPotato> Anyone have any idea why KDE is ignoring my X86 keypresses?
[04:23] <Jucato> !keyboard
[04:23] <ubotu> To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[04:24] <Jucato> hm...  no not that
[04:24] <Kalamarenku> !IRC
[04:24] <Jucato> !shortcuts
[04:24] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[04:24] <altg> Working server eu.undernet.org
[04:24] <ubotu> keyboard shortcuts can be set in K -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse. Try also "Input Actions" in KControl. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[04:24] <Jucato> MilitantPotato: ^^^
[04:24] <MilitantPotato> yeabeen there done that :)
[04:24] <altg> just test, and it works
[04:24] <Kalamarenku> yeah
[04:24] <Jucato> Kalamarenku: it might be a problem on your end/connection
[04:24] <Kalamarenku> I did that it does not work
[04:24] <Kalamarenku> next thing I will contact my ISP ..
[04:24] <Jucato> it works for 2 of us
[04:24] <MilitantPotato> Jucato: they worked earlier today
[04:24] <Kalamarenku> and see what is going on
[04:24] <Kalamarenku> yeah
[04:24] <Jucato> Kalamarenku: tried using some other IRC client?
[04:25] <Kalamarenku> I was connecting in Kubuntu from work in Pidgin and konversation
[04:25] <Jucato> does it also not work?
[04:25] <Kalamarenku> yes
[04:25] <Kalamarenku> all of em
[04:25] <Kalamarenku> nope
[04:25] <Kalamarenku> they do not
[04:25] <Kalamarenku> but !
[04:25] <Kalamarenku> I am chatting in Kubuntu !
[04:25] <Jucato> then it's not an app problem :)
[04:25] <Kalamarenku> yes...
[04:25] <Kalamarenku> it is veeery strange though
[04:26] <Jucato> very :/
[04:26] <Tann> does anyone know how to make kubuntu start without starting the Xserver
[04:26] <altg> yes that's strange
[04:27] <simon__> removing kdm?
[04:27] <Tann> no, just not starting xserver
[04:27] <Jucato> nah, that'd be too much :)
[04:27] <stdin> Tann: permanently or temperately?
[04:27] <crimsun> Tann: just remove the executable bits on /etc/init.d/kdm
[04:27] <Jucato> "temporarily"
[04:27] <stdin> yeah :p
[04:27] <Jucato> crimsun: is that even recommended?
[04:28] <crimsun> Jucato: <dev hat>no</dev hat>
[04:28] <stdin> update-rc.d is the recommended way
[04:28] <Tann> well, i mean so that i can start it manually. I guess i do the  /etc/init.d/kdm
[04:28] <Jucato> crimsun: oooh where did you buy that hat? or does it come w/ shipit? :)
[04:28] <crimsun> stdin: update-rc.d will cause the reinstallation of that file on upgrades.  You likely /don't/ want those semantics.
[04:28] <stdin> Tann: sudo update-rc.d kdm remove
[04:29] <stdin> crimsun: removing the +x will be undone on upgrades too
[04:29] <Tann> stdin: may i ask what exactally that does?
[04:29] <stdin> Tann: removed the links that run the script at startup (and shutdown)
[04:30] <stdin> s/removed/removes/
[04:30] <crimsun> stdin: not in my experience.
[04:30] <Tann> stdin: thanks a bunch
[04:30] <stdin> ie: the ones in /etc/rc.?/?kdm
[04:30] <Jucato> (silly upstart!)
[04:31] <sfears> i use dhclient to grab an ipaddress when i boot up, when i right click on my knetwork manager it doesn't show any available wireless networks, any idea why it wouldn't be displaying anything?
[04:32] <Kalamarenku> can you check which ports are blocked in Ubuntu ?
[04:32] <sfears> i also tried to remove an applet from the panel and accidentallly clicked on something (not sure what) and all my open applications disapeared from the panel. does anyone know how to get them back?  I added window list manager and it works but it's not the same thing
[04:33] <stdin> no ports are blocked by default
[04:33] <Kalamarenku> damn it
[04:33] <Kalamarenku> then it is my freakin ISP
[04:33] <sfears> ports are usually blocked by the router
[04:33] <sfears> you need to configure port forwarding
[04:33] <Jucato> Kalamarenku: have you tried connecting to a specific port when you connect to other IRC servers? by default I think Kubuntu uses 8001
[04:33] <MilitantPotato> Jucato: thank you.
[04:34] <Jucato> MilitantPotato: did the link help?
[04:34] <MilitantPotato> yep, I'm at a loss why the volume controls broke but the rest didn't
[04:34] <Jucato> :)
[04:34] <Kalamarenku> Jucato: undernet uses ports 6667-7000
[04:34] <Jucato> Kalamarenku: try connecting w/ port 6667
[04:35] <Kalamarenku> did that also
[04:35] <Jucato> that would be a possible cause :)
[04:35] <Kalamarenku> and 6668-6669-7000
[04:35] <Kalamarenku> yes, I am almost sure it is the ISP has the ports blocked
[04:37] <ubunturos> if there's just 2 MB of RAM available, will newer apps start slower, than they actually do? (from #kde)
[04:37] <crimsun> not necessarily.
[04:37] <Jucato> not noticeablly slower, unless you're running out of swap too
[04:38] <crimsun> (and we're missing detail whether there's a considerable amount that's freeable, e.g., dcache)
[04:38] <ubunturos> hmm, well, they appear to do so for me..
[04:38] <Tann> grr, sory to ask this again
[04:38] <Tann> but what was the comand that i was told
[04:38] <crimsun> Mem:          1509        840        669   <-- does not imply that I can only start an app with a footprint smaller than 669 MB.
[04:38] <stdin> Tann: sudo update-rc.d kdm remove
[04:38] <Tann> thx
[04:39] <crimsun> -/+ buffers/cache:        251       1258  <-- it's more realistically closer to 1258 MB
[04:39] <ubunturos> hmm, does Konqueror has a "Window" menu in the menu bar?
[04:40] <ubunturos> have*
[04:40] <stdin> not that I can see
[04:40] <Jucato> Konqueror has. but Kubuntu's Konqueror doesn't :)
[04:41] <ubunturos> Jucato: ah, ok.
[04:41] <Jucato> a.k.a. vanilla Konqueror has
[04:41] <stdin> so that's a "yesno"
[04:41] <ubunturos> hmm
[04:41] <Jucato> "okcancel"
[04:41] <Jucato> ubunturos: most of the entries under the Window menu can be reached via right-click on the status bar
[04:41]  * ubunturos was going through the KDE QUickstart guide (for tips) and found that Konqueror should have Window-Show terminal emulator
[04:42] <Jucato> ubunturos: press F8
[04:42] <ubunturos> Jucato: F8 works, right click doesn't :-?
[04:42] <Jucato> hm?
[04:42] <Jucato> F8 = Show terminal emulator (embedded terminal)
[04:42] <ubunturos> Jucato: right click only offers, split views
[04:43] <Jucato> right-click on status bar = split views
[04:43] <Jucato> yes, I did say "most" entries in the Window menu, not *all*
[04:43] <ubunturos> Jucato: oops, sorry.
[04:45] <DRtuxthepenguin> !dolphin
[04:45] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[04:45] <Jucato> ubunturos: well, basically the Window has 3-4 sets of entries. The first set is for splitting views, which can be reaches via right-click on the status bar or keyboard shortcuts (my favorite)
[04:45] <ubunturos> Jucato: hmm, thanks.
[04:45] <DRtuxthepenguin> !Konqueror
[04:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:45] <ubunturos> :-o
[04:45] <Jucato> ubunturos: 2nd and 3rd sets are for tab management
[04:45] <Jucato> 4th set is for Terminal Emulator (F8) and Navigation Panel (F9)
[04:46] <ubunturos> Jucato: hmm, ok.
[04:56] <Gannondorf> Need help with compiling error
[04:57] <Gannondorf> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:58] <Jucato> !xincludes | Gannondorf
[04:58] <ubotu> Gannondorf: When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   xorg-dev
[05:00] <Gannondorf> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[05:00] <Gannondorf> oops
[05:00] <Gannondorf> E: Package xlibs-dev has no installation candidate
[05:00] <crimsun> use libx11-dev and the others
[05:00] <crimsun> xorg-dev should pull in the basic ones
[05:01] <Gannondorf> thanks
[05:02] <ubunturos> smbclient and samba-common failed upgrades yesterday - how do I fix the
[05:02] <ubunturos> them*
[05:08] <Gannondorf> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[05:09]  * Jucato wonders what Gannondorf is trying to compile...
[05:09] <Gannondorf> ktorrent
[05:09] <ubunturos> oh,
[05:09] <Jucato> you need Qt 3 hearders (libqt3-mt-dev)
[05:09] <\dEAD> i got a kicker problem
[05:09] <Jucato> Gannondorf: it's installed by default
[05:09] <Gannondorf> not for me
[05:09]  * ubunturos tried to configure ktorrent and it failed for something else
[05:09] <Jucato> or you mean a new version?
[05:09] <Jucato> Gannondorf: it's in K Menu -> Interenet -> KTorrent
[05:10] <Jucato> !info ktorrent
[05:10] <\dEAD> where the volume control should be, its all garbled. can see the network, Xchat and trashbin, clock.  just not the audio control
[05:10] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 2698 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[05:10] <Jucato> and you can install it from the repositories
[05:10] <ubunturos> Jucato: he, probably is trying a to compile a new verison
[05:10] <Jucato> ubunturos: he said "not for me", perhaps it isn't installed
[05:10] <Gannondorf> yea
[05:10] <Gannondorf> it wasnt
[05:10] <Jucato> \dEAD: run K Menu -> Multimedia -> KMix
[05:10]  * ubunturos goes afk to wash his face :)
[05:11] <Jucato> Gannondorf: just install it from the repositories (using Add/Remove Programs or Adept Manager)
[05:11] <\dEAD> jucato, thanks much. works now.  any idea what causes that?
[05:11] <Jucato> dunn :)
[05:12] <Jucato> dunno :)(
[05:12] <ubunturos> I get this error while compiling the latest version " libmse_la.all_cpp.lo "
[05:12] <ubunturos> of Ktorrent
[05:19] <NickPresta> Is there a reason I'm getting a 403 Forbidden error from the gutsy/security main repo (samba related packages)?
[05:20] <crimsun> yes.
[05:20] <crimsun> see the topic of #ubuntu
[05:20] <NickPresta> crimsun, thanks
[05:21] <Jucato> !sambaupdate
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sambaupdate - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <Jucato> bah
[05:21] <Jucato> !sambabug | NickPresta
[05:21] <ubotu> NickPresta: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[05:22] <NickPresta> thanks Jucato. I assume apt-get -m dist-upgrade will continue without the samba upgrades?
[05:22]  * Jucato doesn't know
[05:22] <NickPresta> well, apparently it's working so :)
[05:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> Jucato: there's got to be a better way of getting that info out to users...
[05:23] <Jucato> yeah... but the /topic is too overcrowded :)
[05:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> agreed
[05:23] <Jucato> (and does anyone *really* read the topic anyway?)
[05:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> and as someone pointed out earlier, an onjoin could be considered spam
[05:24] <NickPresta> Changing the topic doesn't help users who are already in the channel and idle :)
[05:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> nor does an onjoin
[05:24] <NickPresta> exactly
[05:24]  * Jucato nods
[05:25] <NickPresta> oh well. I guess that factoid will get some use for the next day or two
[05:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> but if you've been idling, it's been mentioned at least 20 times in the past couple hours :)
[05:25] <Jucato> so given all that, the best way is to use !sambabug :)
[05:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> i take that back, it hasn't been used much lately
[05:25]  * Daisuke_Laptop binds it to a key-combo
[05:27] <vsudilov> anyone know what my adept always crashes when I try to update or install with it?
[05:30] <vasilisa> How come the latest updates of gutsy are "forbidden"?
[05:31] <vasilisa> libsmbclient samba-common smbclient all give error 403 when i sudo aptitude install
[05:32] <NickPresta> !sambabug | vasilisa
[05:32] <ubotu> vasilisa: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[05:32] <vasilisa> ^-^ yay thanks
[05:40] <ectospasm> does anyone know why adept has decided to ignore my chosen KDE color theme... on two different machines?  I updated each over the past week or so, and now adept looks like it's using the default color theme, which doesn't match what I use at all...
[05:41] <josue> en español
[05:41] <josue> hola
[05:41] <NickPresta> !es | josue
[05:41] <ubotu> josue: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[05:41] <josue> gracias
[05:43] <Jucato> ectospasm: Adept, and any app that you run with sudo/kdesu (root) uses a different theme from normal users. it just so happens that it's configured to use the same initial theme as the default initial theme for all users. once you change a user's theme, Adept won't automatically adjust unless you change it yourself
[05:43] <ectospasm> Jucato:  it did exhibit proper behavior before, but somehow it switched...
[05:44] <matt__> hello I am trying to install kubuntu-desktop with apt-get and it keeps telling me to insert cdrom..  I am wired to the internet
[05:44] <ectospasm> So it's a kdesu thing
[05:44] <matt__> any ideas?
[05:44] <Jucato> yes. "stay around long enough for the answer." :/
[05:44] <matt__> hello I am trying to install kubuntu-desktop with apt-get and it keeps telling me to insert cdrom..  I am wired to the internet  Any ideas?
[05:44] <ectospasm> matt__:  try inserting the install CD
[05:45] <ectospasm> or are you not physically near the machine?
[05:45] <NickPresta> matt__, your sources.list most likely contains cdrom lines
[05:45] <matt__> i know that will work but why can't it select source form the internet
[05:45] <NickPresta> you may want to comment those out
[05:45] <Dr_willis> matt__,  you have the cd as a 'source' in your  sources.list
[05:45] <matt__> ok so i can take that out..
[05:45] <matt__> thaks for the advice
[05:45] <Dr_willis> disable the  cd in the package manager is aniother way
[05:46] <matt__> on another note.. has anyone  experienced a failed binariy upgrade to the new 7.10.. mine failes on libsmbclient and friends.
[05:46] <NickPresta> !sambabug | matt__
[05:46] <ubotu> matt__: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[05:46] <Dr_willis> known bug.. wait a few days :)
[05:46] <matt__> ;-)
[05:46] <NickPresta> alternately, use the -m option to ignore it
[05:46] <NickPresta> although waiting is probably best
[05:46] <matt__> ah thanks.
[05:46] <josue> mnm
[05:47] <matt__> sorry I'm new to ubuntu.. mainly solaris and oracle linux at work.. have ubuntu on laptop and  havinga hard time keeping up with all these different oss... work takes precedence.. Thanks for the tip on the cdrom.
[05:49] <ectospasm> Jucato wasn't helpful.  He identified the problem but not a solution... how do I get adept (or any kdesu program) to choose my user theme?
[05:49]  * Jucato was just pointing out that it's not really a "problem". but fine....
[05:49] <Dr_willis> you need to set the theme as the root user. use kdesu to run the kde theme selection tool.
[05:50] <Dr_willis> its not a problem. :) the root user has his own settings.
[05:50] <Jucato> people nowadays...
[05:50] <Dr_willis> I perfer my root user to have a BRIGHT RED theme. :) so i know what programs are getting ran as root.
[05:50] <NickPresta> its actually a feature and a benefit to running a multiuser system :)
[05:50] <Jucato> "kdesu systemsettings" and get done with it.
[05:50]  * Jucato is done here as well
[05:51] <Dr_willis> onec ya get used to the idea of  a actual multiuser system. and the linux fundamentals.  See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:55] <matt__> heh
[05:56] <matt__> windows 98 + AD client is pretty sweet
[05:56] <ectospasm> Thanks guys... that worked (and gave me a good idea)
[05:56] <shaffy> could someone please tell me the command to find out which release i have? (gutsy, feisty, etc)
[05:57] <matt__> so i can just apt-get -m upgrade
[05:57] <NickPresta> matt__, sudo apt-get -m dist-upgrade
[05:57] <NickPresta> shaffy, `lsb_release -a`
[05:57] <rdvon> Hey, I'm having trouble Compiling a program from source, it's the gimp normal map plugin.. Here's the error I get http://pastebin.com/m67f8e20b
[05:57] <rdvon> In fact, I haven't gotten one program to compile correctly. it bothers me :\
[05:58] <ubuntu> can someone help me install kubuntu to my comp please
[05:58] <NickPresta> rdvon, do you have "build-essential" installed?
[05:58] <NickPresta> ubuntu, what seems to be the problem?
[05:58] <rdvon> Nickpresta, one sec. I'll try it.
[05:58] <shaffy> NickPresta: thanks bro.
[05:58] <ubuntu> its asking for some host file at the install
[05:58] <ubuntu> im new at linux
[05:58] <rdvon> Haha, I didn't thanks!
[05:59] <rdvon> So much better to get help here than at #ubuntu >.>
[05:59] <NickPresta> ubuntu, specific error messages are helpful. Screenshots too, if they will help explain your problem in greater detail. What exactly is the problem? What stage of the install does the installer ask you?
[05:59] <rdvon> I'm still getting the same error it seems.
[05:59] <ubuntu> can i PM u?
[05:59] <NickPresta> ubuntu, sure
[06:00] <rdvon> Yeah.. nick, that Didn't work, same error. :(
[06:01] <NickPresta> rdvon, gimme one sec
[06:01] <ubuntu> sorry nick but it said it blocked from private messages
[06:01] <rdvon> oK.
[06:01] <rdvon> thanks.
[06:01] <excitatory> where would i find the md5sum of the kubuntu desktop cd iso?
[06:01] <NickPresta> ubuntu, you need to have a registered nickname, I believe
[06:01] <ubuntu> ok
[06:01] <NickPresta> ubuntu, you can type up your question and such in a pastebin and post it here. We will read it
[06:01] <NickPresta> !pastebin | ubuntu
[06:01] <ubotu> ubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:02] <matt__> NickPresta will that perform version upgrade?  The manual leads me to believe it is just an upgrade of the current packages
[06:02] <rdvon> What problem is he having? the kubuntu install is pretty straight forward..
[06:02] <NickPresta> matt__, oh, you are upgrading to gutsy? I would wait a couple days then.
[06:03] <matt__> k
[06:03] <matt__> tip of the spear u know
[06:03] <matt__> chases -rHEAD
[06:03] <ubuntu> at install , its at a partition stage, its says " no root system is defined'....'please correct this from the partitioning menu
[06:04] <rdvon> Are you trying a dual boot?
[06:04] <ubuntu> yea
[06:04] <rdvon> Oh.
[06:04] <rdvon> Well, you might need to resize your windows (ntfs) partition.. is that the problem?
[06:04] <rdvon> to give space for kubuntu.
[06:05] <ubuntu> im doing it to an external drive.....
[06:05] <matt__> or delete it :-/
[06:05] <matt__> ah
[06:05] <rdvon> it should ask you which hard drive to install too.
[06:05] <ubuntu> yea it did
[06:05] <ubuntu> i selected the drive
[06:05] <rdvon> Oh.
[06:06] <rdvon> Nothing on it?
[06:06] <ubuntu> and i select te type and mounting and all of that
[06:06] <ubuntu> and then i get that error
[06:06] <ubuntu> no
[06:06] <rdvon> Hmm..
[06:06] <rdvon> Ask nick ;)
[06:06] <ubuntu> yea
[06:06] <ubuntu> nick??
[06:06] <rdvon> Nickpresta
[06:07] <rdvon> Where'd he go anyways...
[06:07] <rdvon> I'm still having problems compiling ;(
[06:07] <ubuntu> beats me...
[06:07] <rdvon> Well.
[06:07] <rdvon> What was the host file?
[06:07] <rdvon> Name?
[06:07] <ubuntu> me?
[06:07] <rdvon> Yeah.. whatever that error was..
[06:07] <rdvon> :P
[06:08] <ubuntu> it says " no root file system defined"
[06:08] <ubuntu> i dont know what it wants
[06:08] <rdvon> One sec.
[06:08] <ubuntu> ok
[06:08] <ectospasm> ubuntu:  did you set a  / mount point?
[06:08] <ubuntu> yea
[06:08] <NickPresta> rdvon, according to INSTALL, you need to have the -dev packages for glib2, gtk+ and gimp. Do you have those? (libglib2.0-dev, libgtk1.2-dev,libgimp2.0-dev)
[06:09] <ectospasm> ubuntu:  did you set a filesystem type?
[06:09] <NickPresta> ubuntu, you should have created a root partition (of what ever size). You should have formatted it as ext3 or the filesystem of your choice. You should then, on the next screen, set that partition (sda4, for example) to /
[06:09] <ubuntu> yea
[06:10] <rdvon> I was just about to say that ;)
[06:10] <ubuntu> it didnt go to a next screen
[06:10] <ubuntu> i got the error
[06:10] <rdvon> The mount it to / part..
[06:10] <ubuntu> yea
[06:10] <matt__> Have a great night.
[06:10] <ectospasm> ubuntu:  are you marking it bootable?
[06:10] <Dr_willis> if he had fdisked  the disk and changed the partitions about. Ive had to 'reboot' some machines. other wise the kernel sees the older partiotion layout.
[06:10] <ubuntu> where?
[06:11] <rdvon> If this is relevant at all... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=416154
[06:11] <rdvon> Seems to do the trick for most people.
[06:11] <ectospasm> Dr_willis:  I've seen that too, come to think of it
[06:12] <rdvon> Now... My compiling woes :(
[06:12] <inversekinetix> anyone know alien arena well?
[06:12] <rdvon> inversekinetix: it's *ok* try urban terror though.
[06:12] <rdvon> or sauerbraten :)
[06:13] <inversekinetix> rdvon how do you update the game?
[06:13] <NickPresta> rdvon, according to INSTALL, you need to have the -dev packages for glib2, gtk+ and gimp. Do you have those? (libglib2.0-dev, libgtk1.2-dev,libgimp2.0-dev)
[06:13] <ubuntu> im still lost here
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Tremulus is fun.. but makes me puke. :)
[06:14] <ectospasm> ubuntu:  did you take Dr_willis' advice and reboot the system after the repartitioning?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  its possible you need to reboot.. and restart the installer and tell it where to put /
[06:14] <rdvon> Say *NO* to tremulous :P
[06:14] <ubuntu> its already partitioned
[06:14] <Dr_willis> I normally just leave a large part of the hd Unallocated.
[06:14] <ubuntu> i just select the partition
[06:14] <inversekinetix> no?
[06:14] <rdvon> urT ftw!
[06:14] <rdvon> NickPresta: I think that should make it work..
[06:14] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  IF youjust changed the partitionlayouts. the kernel MAY be confused. reboot to be doubly sure its ok withthe disk layout.
[06:15] <ubuntu> i have been rebooting a couple of times...
[06:15] <Dr_willis> Of course it may be you are just not setting the partitions/mount point propery then.
[06:15] <jetsaredim> some failed updates seem to be blocking any further invocation of any installation commands - how do I clear this?
[06:15] <ubuntu> i looked at snapshots online...and it look right
[06:15] <ubuntu> i dunno :(
[06:15] <Dr_willis> jetsaredim,  wait a day or 2 and try again.
[06:15] <Jucato> what failed updates?
[06:15] <Jucato> !sambabug
[06:16] <ubotu> A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[06:16] <rdvon> nickpresta: same error :(
[06:16] <jetsaredim> Jucato: adept crashed during an update
[06:16] <Jucato> !adeptcrashfix
[06:16] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[06:18] <Art_> Unable to get CUPS working on Kubuntu 7.10.  Any ideas?
[06:18] <inversekinetix> use windows
[06:19] <Dr_willis> or be a little more clear as to whats not working.
[06:19] <Art_> Dr_willis, It doesn't seem to find the printer.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Art_,  and whats the printer?
[06:20] <sebr> how can i get dolphin to stop generating thumbnail previews of documents like pdfs
[06:20] <Art_> Dr_willis, Epson Stylus Color 600.
[06:20] <Dr_willis> check the cups.org site to see how well its supported for a start. I guess.
[06:20] <Art_> Dr_willis, Works fine in 7.04.
[06:20] <Dr_willis> could check the forums also - see if others have issues.
[06:20] <rdvon> Compiling woes still :(
[06:21] <Art_> Dr_willis, It seems to find the correct driver.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> i converted my printer to a networked printer. So i rarely have issues now a days.
[06:21] <Art_> This is a local printer.
[06:22] <polo2> I can see the follow problem when I try to install the last 3 actualisations:
[06:22] <polo2> http://pastebin.ca/777513
[06:23] <polo2> And I have swiched de mirror and is de same
[06:23] <polo2> and my english is more or less very basic
[06:24] <Jucato> !sambabug
[06:24] <ubotu> A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Thers a bug going on at this time polo2  with that packages.. wait a day or 2 for the fixes to get made.
[06:25] <rdvon> NickPresta: help? :(
[06:26] <crazypoultry> i'm getting ready to do a new install on a laptop i just got,  iwould like to have to partitions setup so that i wont lose data if i have to reinstall kubuntu(it's gonna be for my wife something is bound to get screwed up) i'm looking at 53406MB of free space(it's dual booted) any sggestions on how i should set these up
[06:28] <Dr_willis> ive heard around 10gb or so for / and  as much for /home as you can spare.
[06:29] <Dr_willis> + some for a swap partition.
[06:29] <polo2> sorry I'm trying to understad english. You say, the 403 forbidden will be fix. And easily I would wait, and nothing more because other people will be fix the bug?
[06:30] <Dr_willis> polo2,  the package has a security problem. Wait a day or 2 and it will get fixed.
[06:30] <Nyle> hm
[06:30] <Nyle> security is important
[06:30] <crazypoultry> that was what i was thinking 10gig for / a gig for swap and the rest /home(which is all personal data right?, sorry still new to linux)
[06:30] <Dr_willis> crazypoultry,  thats about right.
[06:30] <Nyle> crazypoultry: that sounds great
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Unless you know you need more for /
[06:30] <Dr_willis> of course ya could always do some tweaking later.
[06:30] <Nyle> 10gb ought to be good enough
[06:31] <polo2> 0k. Only I will wait and all will be 0k.
[06:31] <Dr_willis> I keep a lot of vmware images - so my / is a bit bigger then that..
[06:31] <polo2> Thanks
[06:32] <crazypoultry> thanks for the help, guess i'll try it and worse case i gotta burn off the stuff i need to save and redo it :)
[06:45] <rdvon> Compiling errors. :(
[06:53] <TheWozA> !aptfix
[06:53] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[06:57] <sfears> is the program that resizes the partition on the live cd installed in kubuntu?
[06:58] <TheWozA> hey guys i got updates that wont install it collects headers and everything when it comes to installing it says "there was an error commiting changes, possibly there was a problem downloading packages or the commit would break packages"
[06:59] <TheWozA> anyone else having this prob?
[07:00] <Tm_T> TheWozA: known, wait a day or two
[07:00] <TheWozA> gah
[07:00] <TheWozA> brb change video driver
[07:01] <soberon> Hi... Please Somebody knows about the zd1211-firmware?
[07:20] <TheWozA> hmmm whats going on i installed restricted package and still i have no flash player in konquer and i scanned for the plugin
[07:21] <Jucato> TheWozA: double check that you have flashplugin-nonfree installed
[07:21] <TheWozA> it usually comes with the restricted package does it not>
[07:21] <TheWozA> ?
[07:22] <Jucato> it should. but then again, it should have worked already. there might have been something wrong.
[07:22] <Jucato> hence double check :)
[07:23] <TheWozA> im installing it manual
[07:23] <Jucato> so it wasn't installed?
[07:24] <TheWozA> no but apt was is giving me trouble since them updates wont download
[07:25] <Jucato> samba updated bug maybe
[07:27] <TheWozA> heh least manual install works
[07:27] <Jucato> :)
[07:37] <disw> Hi room
[07:38] <TheWozA> hallo disw
[07:38] <disw> Anyone awake ?
[07:38] <disw> hi
[07:38] <disw> hello
[07:38] <emilsedgh> !hi | disw
[07:38] <ubotu> disw: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:38] <disw> hi good to see some people still on computers
[07:39] <disw> i want to just mention
[07:40] <disw> that i found a virus on Abiword word processor software
[07:40] <disw> in one of the example files
[07:40] <surgy> hi
[07:40] <disw> scanned it using Norton AV using windows
[07:41] <disw> can anyone check to see if it's still there?
[07:41] <surgy> when i try to upgrade my packages using "sudo apt-get upgrade" i get several errors like this "
[07:41] <surgy> Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main smbclient 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.1
[07:41] <surgy>   403 Forbidden
[07:41] <surgy> seams as though i cant upgrade samba?
[07:41] <Jucato> !sambabug | surgy
[07:41] <ubotu> surgy: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[07:42] <surgy> Jucato: thank you, so i just need to wait a few days and it should update just fine?
[07:42] <Jucato> yeah
[07:42] <surgy> kewl
[07:42] <kras> Hi
[07:43] <kras> I have a webcam but don't work?
[07:43] <kras> help
[07:43] <mwilliam> Hi, good morning
[07:43]  * mwilliam Nikio
[07:44] <kras> My webcam is IBM PC cam 168
[07:44] <kras> Is enyone can help
[07:44] <disw> hi ubotu
[07:46] <disw> Can anyone verify if abiword software has a virus?
[07:48] <disw> maybe it's just a false alarm, i think
[07:50] <disw> i have to believe 7.10 software is completely free from virus, nomatter which server it's from
[07:50] <mwilliam> hi kras. If commandline ''lspci'' shows 0x0c45:0x613c then you're lucky. yo can see your webcam on http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[07:56] <disw> did anyone have similar problems with i had with abiword?
[07:59] <Jucato> disw: considering that this is #kubuntu, where most people would presumably either be using KOffice (KWord) or OpenOffice, I think the chances of finding a fellow abiword user here is very slim
[07:59] <Jucato> disw: I recommend asking in #ubuntu or #gnome
[08:00] <disw> yeah i guess you're right
[08:01] <Ahmuck> in konq, you can sftp?
[08:01] <Jucato> Ahmuck: yes
[08:02] <Jucato> sftp://
[08:02] <luca_b> 7joi
[08:04] <Ahmuck> i forget, there is some other commapnd for ssh?
[08:04] <rdvon> How do i add programs to my pkg_config?
[08:05] <rdvon> It says this: Package gtkglext-1.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[08:05] <rdvon> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtkglext-1.0.pc'
[08:05] <rdvon> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[08:05] <rdvon> what does it mean?
[08:29] <combinio> if i have an archive RAR and in windows i packed it with password how can unpack it using that pass? cuz there is only option to extract
[08:29] <combinio> i know pass but don't know where to type it ? ;]
[08:30] <vzduch> w/ what program are you trying to unpack it?
[08:30] <Jucato> combinio: try doing it from Konsole instead of in Ark. in konsole, type: unrar -x filename.rar
[08:30] <combinio> and where pass? :)
[08:30] <Jucato> er...
[08:31] <Jucato> unrar x filename.rar
[08:31] <vzduch> Jucato: I guess, if using unrar, the x option is rather superfluous..
[08:31] <combinio> vzduch: ark :)
[08:31] <Jucato> it would prompt you for the password I tihink
[08:31] <combinio> Jucato: oka, lets's see
[08:31] <vzduch> on the cmdline it does.. at least w/ the non-free rar
[08:31] <Jucato> vzduch: no. x is not an option/flag, but a command.
[08:32] <Jucato> (could also be unrar e I think
[08:32] <combinio> WOOOOOOOOKS :d:d
[08:32] <combinio> thx Jucato ;))
[08:32] <combinio> got that :P
[08:32] <Jucato> sure
[08:43] <pacman> is anyone familar with mplayer?
[08:48] <jjones> Problem with security repository.. anyone know of a contact?  http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/ files with "last modified" date of 16-Nov-2007 permissions are set wrong. Feisty can't upgrade Samba
[08:48] <tecumseh> Gutsy can't either
[08:57] <jjones> tecumseh .. I was just told on another irc channel that it's intentional as per this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/163116
[08:57] <Jucato> !sambabug | jjones
[08:57] <ubotu> jjones: A defect has been identified in a recent security update and as a result the associated packages have been taken offline. Please disregard any 403 errors you may receive when trying to apply updates. They will disappear once this problem is resolved.
[08:58] <jjones> yeah.. it's a pain, I was hoping to start an upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy overnight. Maybe tommorrow night.
[09:21] <waylandbill> I installed a brand knew fresh copy of gutsy. When I enabled the universe, restricted and multiverse repositories, adept offered a version upgrade. How does that differ from fetching updates and applying upgrades?
[09:28] <vzduch> 'brand knew'..  o0
[09:36] <waylandbill> vzduch: yeah. brand knew is a pre-coffee kind of statement. lol
[09:36] <vzduch> what did the brand know? *gg*
[09:44] <sindberg> hi everybody, when i try to install something or apply update i get There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[09:44] <sindberg> what gives?
[09:45] <sindberg> its a fresh install
[09:45] <SSJ_GZ> sindberg: This? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/163116
[09:47] <WaltzingAlong> sindberg: with qt3? run it from konsole, sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f install
[09:51] <sindberg> WaltzingAlong: did it, but what did i do?
[09:53] <ubuntu> lost in space
[09:53] <vzduch> ?
[09:53] <ubuntu> i'm having install problems for the umpteenth time
[09:54] <waylandbill> sindberg: you told it to make sure that it had the newest package lists and then you told it to install while attempting to fix broken dependencies.
[09:54] <WaltzingAlong> sindberg: first one just ran the update to update the available packages. the second asked to fix (-f) the ... ^^
[09:54] <WaltzingAlong> as far as i know the first part is possible through adept but not the second
[09:54] <sindberg> WaltzingAlong: waylandbill okay thx alot
[09:55] <waylandbill> sindberg: specifically the aptitude man page says that -f does this: Try hard to fix the dependencies of broken packages, even if it means ignoring the actions requested on the command line.
[09:55] <ubuntu> i think i'm having some hardware compatibility problems
[09:56] <vzduch> you could cross-check that w/ another distro
[09:56] <ubuntu> well msoft :( sort of works ok
[09:57] <vzduch> or try the alternate install CD, which offers more options for the install process
[09:57] <ubuntu> i think my router maybe doesn't help
[09:57] <vzduch> ubuntu: I was thinking about plain Debian, or Fedora..
[09:57] <vzduch> not M$ *urgh*
[09:57] <ubuntu> can't find a workaround
[09:57] <vzduch> what's the exact problem?
[09:58] <ubuntu> i'm well over my download limit already - don't really need another big download
[09:58] <waylandbill> ubuntu: could be a bios incompatibility. I had an HP that ubuntu didn't work, but debian did.
[09:58] <ubuntu> i sorta had my system working on feisty
[09:59] <vzduch> download limit.. omfg, why do people still use volume rates?
[09:59] <ubuntu> gutsy has netwrk access problems i think but i suspect thats because of my router
[10:00] <ubuntu> cost vzduch
[10:00] <ubuntu> haven't got bottomless pockets
[10:00] <dark> Hi eveeryon
[10:00] <dark> everyone*
[10:00] <ubuntu> ello dark
[10:00] <dark> Hello
[10:01] <ubuntu> please don't ask me i'm a nerd
[10:01] <dark> can someone help me?
[10:01] <ubuntu> problems of my own
[10:01] <ubuntu> but good luck
[10:01] <vzduch> in most cases you should be able to get a (slow) flatrate including phoneline from EUR 30 upwards
[10:01] <ubuntu> i can download 5gb a month
[10:02] <ubuntu> i've topped that already
[10:02] <vzduch> way too little for a Linux user
[10:02] <ubuntu> its not speed its volume
[10:02] <vzduch> that's why I said it
[10:02] <ubuntu> i can't afford more vzduch
[10:02] <vzduch> the cheap flatrates are 2 Mbit ore something
[10:03] <ubuntu> not in uk
[10:03] <vzduch> I have a 6 Mbit flatrate for EUR 40 a month plus phone charges
[10:03] <ubuntu> thats probably what i call expensive
[10:03] <vzduch> my sister and her husband have 25 Mbit cable access flatrate for like EUR 70 a month
[10:04] <vzduch> EUR 40 = (roughly) GBP 25
[10:04] <ubuntu> its 56k for 10 pounds in te uk
[10:05] <ubuntu> broadband starts around 18 ponds
[10:05] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[10:05] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:05] <ubuntu> tho i have a contract deal at 14 pounda
[10:06] <vzduch> I think you're saving on the wrong end, then..
[10:06] <ubuntu> lol - on topic how do i sort out my gutsy install
[10:06] <vzduch> GBP 25-30 should be in for a decent Internet uplink
[10:06] <ubuntu> install fedora cinstead?
[10:06] <ubuntu> man...
[10:07] <ubuntu> dlink router may be giving me problems but theres one or two ther issues
[10:07] <ubuntu> i'm looking for a possible workaround
[10:08] <ubuntu> vduch theres no 6 pound internet in the uk
[10:09] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[10:09] <ubuntu> at the moment my gutsy install cannot access security updates
[10:10] <rysiek|pl> guys, is there a way to set an external program (i.e. Stellarium) a a screensaver?
[10:10] <vzduch> there are some cheapo flatrates in Germany for EUR <10.. but all of these require you to have a phone line w/ Deutsche Telekom for at least EUR 17...
[10:10] <WaltzingAlong> kwebdesktop
[10:10]  * Tm_T slaps MetaMorfoziS
[10:10] <mauri> hi. sameone knows samething like incd for windows
[10:10] <ubuntu> s i shpuld give up on gutsy for now?
[10:10]  * MetaMorfoziS slaps Tm_T
[10:10] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntu: want help installing gutsy?
[10:10] <Tm_T> MetaMorfoziS: I see awaynick, httt
[10:10] <Tm_T> hrrrr even
[10:11] <ubuntu> plz waltzing
[10:11] <rysiek|pl> mauri: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/image.iso
[10:11] <NiceGuyUK> Ok, this is gonna sound like an unrelated question, but bear with me...I'm on a Vista box with a Kubuntu Gutsy ISO image and I have no idea how to burn the image.  Windows doesn't give this option like our favourite OS.  anyone know of a free (as in beer at this point) tool to do this?
[10:11] <rysiek|pl> mauri: oops, sorry
[10:11] <ubuntu> waltzing i think i have a few issues - one is my router possibly
[10:11] <rysiek|pl> mauri: nope, that's not it.
[10:12] <WaltzingAlong> NiceGuyUK: cdrtools front end
[10:12] <jpatrick> !burn
[10:12] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[10:12] <WaltzingAlong> NiceGuyUK: infrarecorder
[10:12] <waylandbill> I think mauri wants packet writing capability for cd-rw's, not burning in general.
[10:12] <vzduch> jpatrick: no help for someone on Vista, I guess..
[10:12] <NiceGuyUK> WaltzingAlong: will google that one, cheers
[10:12] <ubuntu> waltzing i did have fiesty installed reasonably successfully
[10:13] <jpatrick> vzduch: is in the help page
[10:13] <vzduch> NiceGuyUK: you could try whether CDBurnerXP will run on Vista
[10:13]  * NiceGuyUK only on pre-installed Vista, removing it shortly ;-)
[10:13] <NiceGuyUK> thanks for the tips guys
[10:13] <rysiek|pl> NiceGuyUK: I don't know the whole problem descr, but maybe simply boot-up a live-cd and... k3b? :)
[10:13] <mauri> waylandbill: yes, i would like to use a cd as a removable storage (cut and paste  using dolphin for example
[10:13] <ubuntu> waltzing i have done forum searches and attempted to solve this problem already
[10:14] <WaltzingAlong> rysiek|pl: issue is burning the first iso to have the livecd
[10:14] <NiceGuyUK> rysiek|pl: its burning that live cd int he first place I'm struggling with ')
[10:14] <rysiek|pl> oh
[10:14] <NiceGuyUK> WaltzingAlong: infra recorder looks like just the thing, thanks for the heads up
[10:14] <vzduch> NiceGuyUK: look at that howto, it seems to be exactly what you need
[10:14] <rysiek|pl> I *knew* I would make a dumbass out of myself ;)
[10:14] <jpatrick> vzduch: ;)
[10:14] <waylandbill> mauri: source forge has a project called "packet-cd". I have never used it, but it looks like a good place to start your search.
[10:15] <NiceGuyUK> https://help.ubuntu.
[10:15] <vzduch> jpatrick: I didn't know that it also hints at burning in Vista.. and I never used Vista & probably never will :)
[10:15] <WaltzingAlong> rysiek|pl: the fear of failure is the real disgrace :D
[10:15] <rysiek|pl> mauri: *allways* ask Wikipedia... http://www.g-loaded.eu/2005/11/10/packet-writing-on-cdrw-and-dvdrw-media/ :)
[10:15] <jpatrick> vzduch: yep, same as me
[10:15] <ubuntu> waltzing  can you get my pm?
[10:15] <rysiek|pl> WaltzingAlong: well said
[10:15] <jpatrick> ubuntu: unregistered users cannot pm
[10:15] <ubuntu> i'm a noob please explain
[10:16] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu, WaltzingAlong: you could always use a new channel - like #ubuwaltz ;) almost like a PM
[10:16] <ubuntu> i have received a pm - i can not answer?
[10:16] <jpatrick> ubuntu: nop
[10:16] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: you have not registered with Freenode
[10:16] <vzduch> ubuntu: change your nick to something decent and register
[10:17] <ubuntu> man this is mid install - how?
[10:17] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: it really would be easier to just go to #ubuwaltz with WaltzingAlong ;)
[10:18] <ubuntu> how pleasw rysiekjpl
[10:18] <rysiek|pl> what a nice guy, that guy from uk...
[10:18] <jpatrick> rysiek|pl: hey! I'm from the UK :(
[10:18] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntu:  waiting in ^^ #ubuwaltz
[10:18] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: /join #ubuwaltz
[10:18] <ubuntu> lol
[10:18] <ubuntu> rys from this window?
[10:18] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: just type the above in the chat input
[10:18] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntu:  yes either click the #ubuwaltz or type /join #ubuwaltz
[10:19] <ubuntu> rys ok ty
[10:19] <waylandbill> !register
[10:19] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[10:22] <Yoshi> ∕j "tt
[10:24] <WaltzingAlong> omg is not acceptable but wanna is? :D
[10:24] <rysiek|pl> lol! I wanna use omg!!
[10:24]  * rysiek|pl ducks
[10:24]  * rysiek|pl notices nothing happens
[10:24]  * rysiek|pl brb
[10:25] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[10:29] <mauri> kubuntu does not recognize my webcam, someone are able to help me
[10:30] <Tm_T> !webcam | mauri
[10:30] <ubotu> mauri: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:31] <mauri> Tm_T: sorry i dont understand
[10:31] <Tm_T> mauri: look those links
[10:37] <mauri> Tm_T: sorry where are stored the file for repositories
[10:38] <Tm_T> mauri: you mean sources.list ?
[10:38] <mauri> Tm_T: yes
[10:39] <Tm_T>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:40] <mauri> Tm_T: oh thanks......i've have some memory problems :-)
[10:40] <newguyss> Hi, I use kubuntu, I need to create a site similar to google maps, but with maps I have, any idea where to start, or is there any applications in ubuntu I should look at, I know its not ubuntu question, but iam sure that there is something I can use
[10:41] <noam_> hello there, can kopete send SMS messages over ICQ?
[10:42] <Tm_T> noam_: sms over ICQ? that sounds, erm, weird
[10:43] <cpk1> !sound
[10:43] <jussi01> !compiz
[10:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:43] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:44] <newguyss> noam_: you cannot send sms's over icq, it was working some 4 years ago, but I dont think its working any more
[10:59] <korex> русские есть?
[10:59] <Tm_T> !ru | korex
[10:59] <ubotu> korex: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:07] <bobishh> hi there
[11:07] <bobishh> everyone
[11:10] <bobishh> wtf?
[11:10] <bobishh> i can't see anything
[11:10] <pag> bobishh, what do you mean by not seeing anything?
[11:11] <bobishh> well now I can see =) i though i have a connection problems or smth
[11:12] <bobishh> and excuse me for my english
[11:12] <bobishh> =)
[11:12] <bobishh> i'm from rusiia
[11:12] <bobishh> russia
[11:12] <bobishh> =)
[11:13] <pag> bobishh, there's #ubuntu-ru for Russian discussion ;)
[11:13] <bobishh> X) thnx
[11:14] <flaccid> linux rules heh
[11:14] <vzduch> plus, being from a non-English-speaking country is _not_ an excuse for not speaking proper English :D
[11:15] <WaltzingAlong> plus being from an english peaking nation is _not_ an excuse for not using proper english
[11:15] <vzduch> WaltzingAlong: indeed
[11:15] <flaccid> !indeed
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about indeed - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <vzduch> o0
[11:19]  * Tm_T announces: Today is KDE4-Krushdays, anyone interested to help to fix bugs in KDE4 etc etc, feel free to join #kde4-krush
[11:20] <sammy-afk> Tm_T: kubuntu only has packages for kde4 beta 3, unless that's changed in the last few hours. will it be a problem that, unless everything is compiled from scratch, that kubuntu testers will be a version behind?
[11:20] <Tm_T> !away > sammy
[11:20] <Tm_T> sammy: I know
[11:21] <Tm_T> sammy: unfortunate, but perhaps we can still help a bit
[11:26] <shampoo> hi guys
[11:26] <shampoo> got a little problem
[11:26] <shampoo> i want to burn a audio cd with k3b
[11:26] <shampoo> frim existing mp3s..
[11:27] <jpatrick> install libk3b2-mp3 or something like that
[11:27] <shampoo> thx
[11:29] <shampoo> perfekt works, thx again jpatrick
[11:30] <jpatrick> shampoo: es ist nichts
[11:31] <shampoo> öööh
[11:31] <shampoo> is das n deutscher kanal?
[11:32] <shampoo> no its not :D
[11:32] <jpatrick> !de
[11:32] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:32] <jpatrick> shampoo: aber ich kann deutsch ;)
[11:35] <shampoo> your name doesnt sound german
[11:37] <jpatrick> shampoo: nop, I'm from London
[11:37] <TheWozA> how can i check if my direct render is on?
[11:37] <shampoo> im sorry @ jpatrick G*
[11:37] <jpatrick> it's nothing :)
[11:37] <shampoo> so there are some english guys which can speak german
[11:38] <shampoo> i have to tell this to by english stepfather.. he wont believe that :D
[11:38] <shampoo> s/by/my
[11:38] <shampoo> glxinfo  @ TheWozA
[11:39] <shampoo> type glxinfo in the console
[11:39] <TheWozA> thx
[11:40] <shampoo> np
[11:40] <jpatrick> !packaging > Ganon
[11:41] <shampoo> the bad guy from legend of zelda?
[11:42] <WaltzingAlong> TheWozA: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[11:53] <Aoyagi_Ritsuka> right
[11:53] <Aoyagi_Ritsuka> twylight
[11:53] <Aoyagi_Ritsuka> is now known as Aoyagi_Ritsuka
[11:53] <Aoyagi_Ritsuka> because I'm just that awesome
[11:53] <Aoyagi_Ritsuka> that is all
[11:58] <titanix88> hi
[11:58] <gan|y|med> good morning
[11:58] <titanix88> hi ppl :)
[12:00] <ubunturos> !hi | titanix88
[12:00] <ubotu> titanix88: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:00] <yulac> hola
[12:00] <titanix88> :S
[12:00] <titanix88> :s
[12:00] <yulac> alguien sabe como configurar matlab para q salga el simbolo ^ ?
[12:01] <ubunturos> !gnuoctave
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnuoctave - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:28] <ubuntu> hi can someone help me with something, im kinda a noob
[12:29] <pag> !ask | ubuntu
[12:29] <ubotu> ubuntu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:29] <shomik> go ahead
[12:29] <vit_> mmm?
[12:29] <shomik> really
[12:29] <Chickentikka> ok, im trying to mount my HD, but its not working
[12:29] <vit_> alguien me puede ayudar?
[12:30] <shomik> say more
[12:30] <vit_> esto no es compatible con messenger?
[12:30] <pag> !es | vit_
[12:30] <ubotu> vit_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[12:30] <shomik> what message do yuo get. i presume u are using kubumtu
[12:31] <Chickentikka> kubuntu yes,
[12:31] <shomik> ok which version
[12:31] <Chickentikka> :S how do i check?
[12:32] <shomik> do u have internet
[12:32] <Chickentikka> yup
[12:32] <shomik> of course u do
[12:32] <Chickentikka> otherwise i guess i wont be talking to you
[12:32] <shomik> right right
[12:32] <Chickentikka> lol ok
[12:32] <vit_> jaja
[12:32] <shomik> google it then
[12:32] <pag> Chickentikka, open Konsole, and type lsb_release -a
[12:32] <shomik> because if it is a recent release then you dont need to mount it
[12:32] <vit_> please somebody help me!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:33] <vit_> help, help!!!!
[12:33] <pag> vit_, with what... you haven't asked your question (in English at least)
[12:33] <Chickentikka>
[12:33] <Chickentikka> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[12:33] <Chickentikka> Description:    Ubuntu 7.04
[12:33] <Chickentikka> Release:        7.04
[12:33] <Chickentikka> Codename:       feisty
[12:33] <shomik> if you have a different hard disk scsi or ortherwise it will be found in /media
[12:34] <shomik> fine check your explorer go to /media
[12:34] <vit_> ok, Im new I want to unload the messenger
[12:34] <Chickentikka> only the DVD
[12:34] <shomik> which messenger
[12:34] <vit_> but I cant
[12:34] <shomik> hmm thats strange
[12:34] <Chickentikka> no HD's
[12:35] <shomik> what hard disk is it external
[12:35] <Chickentikka> no
[12:35] <shomik> it is a secondary hard disk?
[12:36] <Chickentikka> i have two HDs with windows installed on each
[12:36] <vit_> HOTMAIL
[12:36] <vit_> live messenger
[12:36] <shomik> so let me get this you have two hard disks
[12:36] <shomik> one has windows and linux
[12:36] <patricio> anyone else experiencing problems with knetworkmanager lately? I can only manually configure the interfaces. it doesn't "see"(hotplug?) when I stick in the ethernet cable and it doesn't list the available wireless-networks nearby. Thank you for your help.
[12:37] <pag> vit_, windows applications don't generally work in Kubuntu... Kopete supports MSNM just fine, so why not use it?
[12:37] <shomik> and the other has just windows
[12:37] <vit_> I dont know
[12:37] <Chickentikka> no
[12:38] <patricio> I am using gutsy gibbon
[12:38] <Chickentikka> two HD's
[12:38] <Chickentikka> both windiws
[12:38] <Chickentikka> and using live CD for kubuntu
[12:38] <shomik> where is your linus installed
[12:38] <Chickentikka> Live CD
[12:38] <shomik> sorry u have to install it
[12:38] <Chickentikka> y?
[12:39] <vit_> How can I know that?
[12:39] <shomik> live cd wont give you the option
[12:39] <Chickentikka> whats that option, the mount/unmount thing?
[12:39] <shomik> sorry wont work with live cd
[12:39] <shomik> there is no support
[12:40] <vit_> ohh
[12:40] <Chickentikka> ok
[12:40] <Chickentikka> ill come back when i install it
[12:40] <shomik> ok
[12:44] <Greenery> is there any app that works like Japanese IME in windows? I want to be able to type in Japanese
[12:44] <patricio> Hi there. Anyone else experiencing problems with knetworkmanager lately? I can only manually configure the interfaces. it doesn't "see"(hotplug?) when I stick in the ethernet cable and it doesn't list the available wireless-networks nearby. Thank you for your help. Or else: In which channel would this question be posted better?
[12:46] <gorlak> got a question, about kcron jobs, i am trying to setup a kcron job through the gui, and i think im setting it up right, the trial command i was trying to get kcron to run was /usr/bin/touch sample , but it doesnt seem to be executing. is that the wrong command to place into kcron or would i need something diffrent?
[12:48] <waylandbill> gorlak: you should be able to use touch in there.
[12:49] <arash_> Greenery - Is Skim what you are looking for?
[12:49] <TheWozA> hey guys whats the command to unmount a cdrom and how do i do it as root?
[12:49] <Greenery> i did try Skim but seems like its not working
[12:50] <Greenery> any detail documentation for skim?
[12:50] <gorlak> well i set the cron job and it doesnt create the test file, is there a place i can look for error msges? that would give me a clue on why its not running
[12:50] <gorlak> it appears to be running (appears) the other cron jobs that the system made just fine
[12:51] <waylandbill> gorlak: maybe try the test file with an absolute path to a directory you can write to?
[12:51] <flaccid> system or root cron?
[12:51] <flaccid> i mean root or user
[12:52] <gorlak> tried that too, used this /usr/bin/touch /home/gorlak/sample     that should work in kcron correct?
[12:52] <waylandbill> gorlak: yeah. That should work
[12:52] <flaccid> i dont see why not
[12:53] <gorlak> user cron
[12:54] <gorlak> cron messages can be found in the syslog right?
[12:55] <flaccid> in /var/log/syslog
[12:55] <flaccid> yeah
[12:55] <waylandbill> should say that it attempted to run it
[12:56] <flaccid> output is up to to the cron entry/script to redirect/log the output of stderr/stdout
[12:56] <waylandbill> I imagine stdout/stderr could be sent to an email if cron can use sendmail
[12:56] <gorlak> i dont see anything in the syslog that outright says error,
[12:56] <bob__> waltzingalong you around?
[12:57] <gorlak> if it attempted to run the command, should it give the command? like i should see a line in the file somewhere that says /usr/bin/touch...etc
[12:57] <gorlak> ?
[13:00] <TheWozA> hey guys how do i sort this and unmount my cd so i can eject it
[13:00] <TheWozA> only rout can unmount /dev/hdc from media/cdrom0
[13:00] <flaccid> use something like: /usr/bin/touch /home/gorlak/sample &> /home/gorlak/sample.log
[13:01] <gorlak> ill put that in and try it, curious what does the &>/home/gorlak/sample.log do? make an output logfile or something for this cron job?
[13:01] <flaccid> yep
[13:01] <flaccid> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
[13:02] <flaccid> !bash
[13:02] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[13:02] <waylandbill> it's a bash thing to redirect output to a file.
[13:02] <flaccid> make sure the cron entry is using bash for shell
[13:04] <patricio> Hi there. Anyone else experiencing problems with knetworkmanager lately? I can only manually configure the interfaces. it doesn't "see"(dbus/hal?) when I stick in the ethernet cable and it doesn't list the available wireless-networks nearby, I can only "configure manually", I am using the latest gutsy gibbon. Thank you for your help. I would also like to give debug-output, just tell me where to get it.
[13:05] <gorlak> hm, interesting since changing it to use the absolute dir, it seems to be creating the sample file. the only difference from before was i was changing the system time to come to that time period over and over again when it failed to make the file. i didnt think it would keep the cron job from not working.
[13:06] <gorlak> thanks
[13:14] <patricio> network-manager problem: the systray icon doesn't list my wireless accesspoints nearby anymore and does not automatically detect the ethernet cable(and uses dhcp) to connect... I can only go for manual configuration, what is wrong there?
[13:19] <shomik> does anybody know of a good mp3 player in kubuntu
[13:20] <flaccid> amarok or kaffeine
[13:20] <patricio> Ok, I found some maybe related bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/137404
[13:21] <shomik> amarok doesnt support mp3
[13:21] <TheWozA> anyone help me with cd /tmp; /bin/rm -rf $tmpdir; exit $res: bad trap
[13:21] <shomik> kaffeine is too primitive
[13:22] <shomik> and what kind of a name is flaccid??
[13:22] <flaccid> there are kind of names?
[13:24] <stone[no]> shomik: Well, isn't the mp3 format closed source and subject to restriction? Does any linux player support this as default?
[13:24] <gorlak> you can add in mp3 support to amarok
[13:25] <shomik> gorlak: pls tell me how?
[13:26] <gorlak> hm, been a while, if you google amarok and mp3 support there are alot of articles, i believe it requires some additional files,
[13:26] <gorlak> it was pretty easy to get working actually so you shouldnt have a problem
[13:27] <gorlak> i use my amarok for mp3s
[13:27] <emilsedgh> install libxine-ffmpeg1 i think
[13:27] <shomik> ok t u
[13:28] <gorlak> yea its something like that, there is a bunch of pages on how to do it
[13:29] <Tm_T> !mp3 | shomik
[13:29] <ubotu> shomik: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:30] <shomik> k. t u. wll chk it out
[13:30] <Tm_T> shomik: can you use whole words? that is bit hard to read
[13:32] <shomik> ok. thank you. will keep it in mind
[13:35] <lvjiabin> Hi,
[13:36] <lvjiabin> Can somebody can help me?
[13:36] <Tm_T> !helpme
[13:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:36] <lvjiabin> Thank you !
[13:36] <lvjiabin> a ,why the systerm  always slow
[13:37] <dhq> i have an ipod nano 8gb how do i get it to work kubuntu
[13:37] <lvjiabin> Just i  cant  resist
[13:37] <Tm_T> !ipod | dhq
[13:37] <lvjiabin> 有中国人不阿？
[13:37] <ubotu> dhq: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[13:39] <Tm_T> lvjiabin: sorry, what is your native language?
[13:39] <lvjiabin> Chinese
[13:40] <Tm_T> oki
[13:40] <Tm_T> !ch
[13:40] <lvjiabin> Sorry
[13:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:40] <Tm_T> hmm
[13:40] <Tm_T> lvjiabin: no need to be sorry
[13:40] <lvjiabin> you?where
[13:40] <lvjiabin> Ah,I know,
[13:40] <dhq> Tm_T i am on a windows pc can you tell me what all packages i i need for banshee so that it works i need to take it on my flash drive
[13:41] <Tm_T> dhq: no idea
[13:41] <Greenery> !cn
[13:41] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[13:41] <Tm_T> Greenery: thanks
[13:41] <Greenery> ^^
[13:42] <lvjiabin> Hi,the bot is so   clear
[13:42] <lvjiabin> ah
[13:45] <lvjiabin> Is anybody  here
[13:46] <emilsedgh> !ask | lvjiabin
[13:47] <ubotu> lvjiabin: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[13:54] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: howdy
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Morning All  :)
[13:54] <BluesKaj> hi Tm_T
[13:57] <Dresken> Anyone knows of a way to install windows on my other HDD after having Kubuntu installed without messing up GRUB?
[13:57] <Tm_T> Dresken: detach Ubuntu HDD ?
[13:58] <Dresken> That'll work?
[13:58] <kalle> what should i do if my package manager says that the database is blocked?
[13:58] <shampoo> mh u used sudo @ kalle?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix | kalle
[13:59] <ubotu> kalle: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:59] <shampoo> never mind s*
[14:01] <kalle> it responds:" dpkg: status database area is locked by another process"...
[14:01] <kalle> then?
[14:02] <Podre> how are you?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> kalle, close adept , synaptic or apt
[14:03] <kalle> it is closed...
[14:03] <kalle> -_-
[14:03] <BluesKaj> kalle, did you see the message above?
[14:03] <kalle> yes
[14:04] <BluesKaj> also the adeptfix message ?
[14:05] <TimS> I have a freshly installed system from the CD but it gives me an error when updating with tzdata
[14:06] <kalle> oh i didn't see it... :D thanks its working now
[14:09] <TimS> I have a weird problem, I have a version upgrade button avalibe in a new install of 7.10
[14:09] <TimS> lemme restart
[14:10] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: that is a known issue
[14:10] <WaltzingAlong> adept asking to upgrade to gutsy but your system is gutsy already? it is a known issue. you can grab the fix for it by adding the gutsy-proposed repository, then updating/upgrading (in adept, manage repositories, on the updates tab, select pre-release updates) or just ignore it for now | TimS
[14:11] <BluesKaj> TimS, http://packages.debian.org/etch/tzdata/all/download
[14:11] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: ?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> newer debugged sources
[14:17] <BluesKaj> TimS, some ppl are changing their time zones to Europe/Berlin in order to get the updated package installed....https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/116193
[14:17] <walter> hi!
[14:18] <walter> can anybody help me?
[14:18] <BluesKaj> I guess one can always change the time zone back to their real locale as soon as the pkg is installed
[14:18] <BluesKaj> !ask | walter
[14:18] <ubotu> walter: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[14:20] <shomik> whats the difference between fiesty fawn and gutsy gibbon
[14:20] <ehird`> shomik: gutsy is a newer version
[14:21] <shomik> how do i upgrade to gg from ff
[14:21] <BluesKaj> shomik, read the Topic above
[14:22] <Jucato> shomik: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.10-release.php#upgrade
[14:22] <Goodgame> Hi is there someone french here?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> !fr
[14:22] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[14:22] <shomik> k so gg is 7.10 and ff is 7.04??
[14:22] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:24] <shomik> so how do install the gg repository
[14:25] <begert> hey, anyone know what the little window is called that shows info when you hover over an application in the panel?
[14:25] <Jucato> shomik: just follow the instructions in the link I gave. all the instructions are there
[14:25] <Jucato> begert: icon mouseover effects
[14:26] <begert> sounds good :(
[14:26] <begert> heh, I meant :)
[14:26] <Jucato> begert: you're looking for a way to turn those big balloons off?
[14:27] <begert> no, i want to see if a bug is reported...I get leftover baloon garbage
[14:27] <Jucato> oh..
[14:30] <m_tadeu> hi...I'm having a problem with kaffeine...it's not displaying any subtitles, when using a .sub file
[14:31] <jaym> i just changed over from ubuntu and gnome to kubuntu how do i remove gnome completely
[14:31] <jpatrick> !purekde | jaym
[14:31] <ubotu> jaym: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[14:31] <jpatrick> m_tadeu:
[14:31] <jpatrick> have you enabled the .sub file?
[14:32] <knulfine> HI... Can somebody give me the link to a german channel?
[14:32] <m_tadeu> jpatrick: yup...it's selected and set in the subtitles combo box
[14:32] <jpatrick> odd
[14:32] <jpatrick> !de | knulfine
[14:32] <ubotu> knulfine: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[14:32] <knulfine> thanks jpatrick
[14:33] <WaltzingAlong> danke
[14:33] <m_tadeu> jpatrick: it's the first time I try .sub files...srt is working like a charm
[14:33] <jaym> cool thanks
[14:33] <jaym> how do i make a shortcut to my home directory on my task bar?
[14:34] <m_tadeu> jaym: open a konqueror and drag'n'drop the home folder into the taskbar
[14:34] <jaym> didnt think was that easy
[14:34] <jaym> k
[14:34] <Jucato> jaym: there's one on the panel by default already
[14:35] <Jucato> the System Menu applet (beside the K Menu)
[14:36] <m_tadeu> BTW, is that applet editable?
[14:37] <mph> Anyone experience same thing? A recent update this week made my system settings applets unable to administer as "ROOT"  I have the actual errors...etc.
[14:37] <tilt> anyone can explain me how to instal a .tar.gz?
[14:38] <mph> tilt: install? I'm assuming it is all source?
[14:39] <tilt> mph:  i do not know... i  download  this link... http://www.poweriso.com/download.htm    and i'm not able with sudo apt....
[14:40] <mph> tilt: let me grab it and take a look
[14:40] <tilt> it is the first time that i need to install a prog wich is not in the adept installer
[14:44] <patricio> network-manager(kde) does not list my available wireless accesspoints, iwlist ath0 scan DOES, however!syslog output: NM: 11/17/2007 03:13:47 PM padi-laptop NetworkManager<info>  Updating allowed wireless network lists. <WARN>  nm_dbus_get_networks_cb(): error received: org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks - org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks.and later on: dhclient: wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801
[14:44] <BluesKaj> !compile | tilt
[14:44] <ubotu> tilt: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[14:44] <m_tadeu> anyone else about the kaffeine and the .sub files?
[14:45] <TimS> I have a new install of Kubuntu from the live cd that was sent in the post, I have a few adept updates that dont work such as kdelibs and there is a version upgrade button on adept. even though I am running 7.10, what is happening
[14:45] <mph> tilt: the tar.gz contains a binary; simply download it; extract it and you can run the poweriso directly
[14:46] <mph> tilt: to extract the tar.gz from the command line use:  tar xzf <<filename>>
[14:47] <mph> tilt: i'd suggest in your home location you create a 'bin' folder, and put the single file there, then edit your .bashrc and enable the .bin as a folder to which you wish to run binaries directly from any place (bash will lookup in bin)
[14:47] <BluesKaj> mph, pls let him read the posted UR before telling him how easy it is , cuz compiling can be confusing for ppl new to linux
[14:48] <BluesKaj> err URL
[14:48] <mph> BluesKaj: there was no compiling necessary
[14:48] <mph> BluesKaj: that .tar.gz contained a binary which ran without any libs needed to be installed on my kubuntu desktop
[14:49] <BluesKaj> mph, pretend yer newbie for a minute and read your previous post above pls
[14:49] <BluesKaj> I realize that .bin files are easier but ....
[14:50] <WaltzingAlong> adept asking to upgrade to gutsy but your system is gutsy already? it is a known issue. you can grab the fix for it by adding the gutsy-proposed repository, then updating/upgrading (in adept, manage repositories, on the updates tab, select pre-release updates) or just ignore it for now | TimS
[14:50] <TimS> Thanks WaltzingAlong
[14:51] <TimS> !adeptfix
[14:51] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:53] <tilt> mph:  what do you means with a bin folder?
[15:01] <tilt> mph:   sorry i crashed.. have you answer my question wet?
[15:04] <Dresken> I disabled my Nvidia graphis adapter and restarted, now I'm stuck at command line and when I try startx it shows me "Fatal server error: no screen found"
[15:04] <Dresken> Any idea how to resolve this?
[15:04] <ubuntu_> any german channel
[15:04] <BluesKaj> tilt, look in your System Menu/ Home Folder for the file you want to install
[15:04] <BluesKaj> !de
[15:04] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[15:05] <Dresken> Anyone? o_o
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Dresken, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , choose the vesa driver just get back to X
[15:06] <Dresken> I'll try that, thanks
[15:06] <mph> Anyone experience same thing? A recent update this week made my system settings applets unable to administer as "ROOT"  I have the actual errors...etc.
[15:07] <tilt> BluesKaj: at the momment that i open it i crash...
[15:08] <BluesKaj> tilt, open what ?
[15:09] <mph> tilt: did you get my messages?
[15:09] <tilt> nop
[15:09] <tilt> mph:  no....
[15:09] <tilt> BluesKaj:  i extract the files of the .tar.gz i open it and i crash..
[15:09] <tilt> [10:09] [DCC] Establishing DCC Chat connection to mph (<IP_ADDRESS>:1026)...
[15:09] <tilt> [10:09] [Error] Connection broken, error code 10.
[15:10] <mph> tilt: I think we are both wondering "what crashed", what is the output, etc.
[15:12] <tilt> the keyboard the mouse the screen .... i'm obligated to reboot with the button...
[15:12] <mph> tilt: I cannot promise the software you are playing with (poweriso) will not crash your machine
[15:12] <tilt> i think that is wine that make it crash
[15:13] <mph> huh?
[15:13] <WaltzingAlong> !iso
[15:13] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[15:13] <mph> tilt: why are you using wine?
[15:14] <tilt> i'm not using it.. but when i open the extrated files wine start... and after it freeze
[15:14] <mph> tilt: I am gathering from WaltzingAlong that you are trying to mount an iso?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> tilt, try kiso or acetoneiso ...poweriso is a windows app : hence, unstable in linux
[15:16] <tilt> it is an .aad
[15:17] <tilt> so  k3b do not open it...
[15:17] <Daisuke-Ido> nope
[15:17] <Daisuke-Ido> and .daa are poweriso archived things
[15:18] <tilt> and kiso i'm not able to instal it i got always an error...
[15:18] <Daisuke-Ido> your only real option is to use poweriso in wine or virtualized
[15:18] <tilt> poweriso got an linux version...
[15:19] <Daisuke-Ido> wow, it would appear there is
[15:19] <WaltzingAlong> PowerISO for Linux -- This is a free utility for linux which can extract, list, and convert image files              - then there should be no need of wine
[15:20] <tilt> ...
[15:20] <BluesKaj> ok, din't know that. trial version tho
[15:21] <tilt> just by opening wine i always crash...
[15:22] <BluesKaj> don't open wine
[15:22] <BluesKaj> uninstall wine , relogin ,reinstall wine
[15:23] <Dresken> Well fixed that issue, thanks for the help
[15:24] <tilt> crash again opening wine...
[15:24] <BluesKaj> Dresken , what graphics again ?
[15:25] <tilt> so wath i should do...
[15:25] <BluesKaj> uninstall wine
[15:26] <BluesKaj> most apps in windows have "linux equivalents" most users can get along without wine
[15:26] <mph> tilt: what do you want to do?
[15:27] <dresken__> BluesKaj: Nvidia
[15:27] <dresken__> brb restarting
[15:28] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: Indeed.
[15:28] <tilt> ok it got uninstalled
[15:29] <ardchoille> I have been using Linux since 2001 and haven't touched Windows apps, or Windows itself, since then.
[15:29] <jasonago> I enabled the nvidia-glx-new drivers in my kubuntu gutsy but the problem is that it doesnt preserve my screen resolution when I restart...It always reverts to 43hz with a distorted monitor view...I always need to run nvidia-settings before it will load again my settings...what will I do???
[15:30] <tilt> ardchoille:  have you extract a .daa with linux?
[15:30] <mph> anyone else sharing issues with systemsettings not kicking into admin mode?
[15:30] <ardchoille> tilt: No, I've never heard of a .daa file
[15:30] <dthacker> mph: kind of a meta question. got a specific setting in mind?
[15:31] <tilt> ardchoille:  it is like an .iso ..
[15:31] <jasonago> mph: I have experience some of that in gutsy but never in feisty...I always see feisty as better than gutsy...
[15:31] <dthacker> mph: wait, I misread that. sorry
[15:31] <BluesKaj> wow, ardchoille ...I need windows for document and photo scanning ...unfortunately kooka isn't up to the task yet. But that really the only reason i still have a small windows partition.
[15:31] <dthacker> mph: so you press admin mode button, enter pw and it hangs?
[15:32] <mph> dthacker: doesn't hang, i get error msgs like this:  kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[15:33] <BluesKaj> mph, run, sudo dpkg --configure -a ..then logout and back in again
[15:33] <mph> BluesKaj: done....be back....
[15:34] <dthacker> BluesKaj: that looks like a handy little widget of a command.  Do you think a database is corrupted?
[15:34] <mph> dthacker: hold that thought...i wanted to understand the problem :)
[15:34] <mph> brb...
[15:34] <dthacker> ok:)
[15:34] <BluesKaj> mph dthacker then run , sudo updatedb
[15:35] <WaltzingAlong> jasonago: it could be that the driver cannot handle more at that resolution. in konsole, xrandr
[15:35] <liam> hi
[15:37] <BluesKaj> !hi | liam__
[15:37] <ubotu> liam__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[15:37] <TheGentleman> Opening AdeptManager I get an error message saying "Another process is using the packaging system database"   Checked using KSysGuard, but I can't find anything running with adept or apt in its name.  What could I do?
[15:37] <tilt> how instal the extracted file?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> !compile | tilt
[15:38] <ubotu> tilt: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[15:39] <WaltzingAlong> !aptfix | adept aptitude apt-get dpkg any of those?
[15:39] <ubotu> adept aptitude apt-get dpkg any of those?: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:39] <BluesKaj> !adeptfix | TheGentleman
[15:39] <ubotu> TheGentleman: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:39] <mph> same ... it did not resolve the issue.  I wish I knew what pkg it was.
[15:39] <JohnFlux> TheGentleman: you could do:  lsof  | grep dpkg      to see if that shows the process
[15:39] <vandal2> anyone know how ti make characters appear one at a time in a bas script?
[15:40] <vandal2> **bash
[15:40] <JohnFlux> vandal2: bas?
[15:40] <JohnFlux> oh
[15:40] <WaltzingAlong> vandal2: #bash ?
[15:40] <vandal2> sorry, cant spell
[15:40] <vandal2> tis bash
[15:40] <WaltzingAlong> sure but maybe check in that channel rather than in #kubuntu support
[15:40] <TheGentleman> well, I have lots of info to work on now BluesKaj , ubotu  and JohnFlux !!!   See you later
[15:40] <JohnFlux> vandal2: for f in   h e l l o ; do echo -n $f; sleep 1; done
[15:40] <linas_> huh, mine fn(i`m using laptop) keys aren`t working on kubuntu :/
[15:40] <vandal2> cheers :)
[15:41] <BluesKaj> mph, another trick might work , synaptic /edit/fix broken pkgs /apply ...sometimes it works or generates errors that we can take a look at
[15:42] <mph> BluesKaj: ok....I think it has something to do with a file or there lackof in /etc/qt3/
[15:43] <dthacker> mph: also googling generates this scenario http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=151193
[15:43] <tilt> BluesKaj:  it always said E: Couldn't find package poweriso
[15:44] <BluesKaj> tilt, where did you download the pkg to ?
[15:44] <WaltzingAlong> tilt: poweriso is not available in the ubuntu repos. you would need to download it directly from poweriso's website as the tar.gz
[15:44] <tilt> WaltzingAlong:  i got it..
[15:44] <wolf8> 中文支持测试
[15:44] <tilt> WaltzingAlong:  i got it extracted....
[15:45] <mph> dthacker: i will try updating the owners and perms on .kde also
[15:45] <tilt> WaltzingAlong: and now i don't know what to do with the extracted file
[15:45] <ardchoille> There are samba updates in security.. I hope this fixes the recent 403 bug
[15:45] <crimsun> ardchoille: they are the updated ones, yes.
[15:45] <dthacker> mph: good luck.
[15:45] <ardchoille> crimsun: :)
[15:45] <crimsun>      samba | 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.2 | gutsy-security | source, amd64, i386, powerpc
[15:46] <jasonago> why does kubuntu doesn't include some kde games and gimp by default in the CD installer? Does KDE really bigger than gnome?
[15:46] <ardchoille> jasonago: gimp is not a kde app
[15:46] <WaltzingAlong> jasonago: cd is only so big you know
[15:46] <dthacker> jasonago: the goal is to get you a working desktop with the most populare apps
[15:47] <jasonago> uhm...ok...
[15:47] <ardchoille> jasonago: And you can only fit so much data on a cd iso.. but you can installthem from the repos just as easily
[15:47] <wolf8> how to config arts? the v ersion of my os is 7.10
[15:47] <WaltzingAlong> tilt: ok so you downloaded http://www.poweriso.com/poweriso-1.1.tar.gz to /home/tilt/Desktop for example. then in konsole extracted the files  with tar xfvz poweriso-1.1.tar.gz        which should have just one new file 'poweriso'        so then run it with ./poweriso in konsole
[15:47] <jasonago> ok ok thanks...
[15:47] <dthacker> jason: installing the gimp and games is usually quick and easy.
[15:47] <jasonago> yes from adept...
[15:47] <TheGentleman> !adeptfix
[15:47] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:47] <BluesKaj> !arts | wolf8
[15:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about arts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:48] <wolf8> thanks
[15:49] <wolf8> this is a wonderful world~~
[15:49] <wolf8> :)
[15:49] <Dresken> Any idea why I can't create an ntfs partition on another HDD using GParted?
[15:49] <ksal> hi
[15:49] <tilt> WaltzingAlong:
[15:49] <tilt> PowerISO   Copyright(C) 2004-2006 PowerISO Computing, Inc
[15:49] <tilt>             Type poweriso -? for help
[15:50] <ksal> when new kubuntu will be available?
[15:50] <tilt> and it all
[15:50] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, because it's ntfs
[15:50] <Daisuke_Ido> ksal: in 5-6 months, one was just released
[15:50] <Jucato> ksal: April 2008
[15:50] <Dresken> Ok let me rephrase the question, is there  a way to create an ntfs partition under linux?
[15:50] <ksal> ugh
[15:50] <ksal> thank
[15:50] <denzuko> hi all
[15:50] <Daisuke_Ido> what's the ugh for?
[15:50] <ksal> Dresken, ntfs is fully supported by kernel
[15:51] <ksal> Daisuke_Ido, nevermind
[15:51] <Daisuke_Ido> ksal: since when?
[15:51] <Jucato> Dresken, Daisuke_Ido: afaik, GParted should be able to do that
[15:51] <WaltzingAlong> tilt: exactly. ./poweriso -?             shows you how to use it
[15:51] <ksal> since long time
[15:51] <dthacker> hello denzuko
[15:51] <Daisuke_Ido> really...
[15:51] <ksal> ntfs-3g
[15:51] <denzuko> hi dt
[15:51] <tilt> nice  it got no graphical interface... ok thx i understand now
[15:51] <Dresken> Jucato: Well the option to create an ntfs partition is grayed out on GParted..
[15:51] <Jucato> Dresken, Daisuke_Ido: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[15:51] <Daisuke_Ido> so it's not natively supported by the kernel
[15:52] <TheGentleman> BluesKaj, still about adeptfix: I did what suggested. Now Adept manager opens WITHOUT asking for password. When trying to update a package it says there was an error with the package.
[15:52] <Daisuke_Ido> neat
[15:52] <Daisuke_Ido> however, why ntfs?
[15:52] <Daisuke_Ido> !ext3
[15:52] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[15:52] <ksal> Daisuke_Ido, it's just not compiled into kernel
[15:53] <WaltzingAlong> TheGentleman: jump to konsole so you see adequate output. sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f install            (update and fix any dependency errors)
[15:53] <WaltzingAlong> !ntfs-3g
[15:53] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[15:53] <FSHero> Hi all: I'm using Amarok with a MySQL database. Where is the database file(s) actually located?
[15:53] <TheGentleman> thanks WaltzingAlong
[15:55] <WaltzingAlong> FSHero: in the mysql db. /var/lib/mysql/ perhaps
[15:55] <FSHero> o i c
[15:55] <BluesKaj> TheGentleman, there's a 10 min time perios after entering one PW that opening pkg managers etc is allowed without re-entering it.
[15:55] <dthacker> FSHero: likely in /var/lib/mysql/mysql
[15:55] <FSHero> WaltzingAlong: thanks, yes, they're all here :)
[15:55] <TimS> WaltzingAlong: How do I install nVidia drivers (glx-new) in gutsy?
[15:56] <BluesKaj> used to be 10 mins , not sure what the default is in gutsy
[15:56] <dthacker> !nvidia | TimS
[15:56] <ubotu> TimS: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:56] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: using the restricted drivers manager. kmenu/system settings/advanced/restricted manager
[15:56] <wolf8> how to choose the chanel in this tool?
[15:56] <WaltzingAlong> wolf8: /join #nameofchannel
[15:56] <dresken_> Thanks, that link solved my issue =P
[15:57] <wolf8> thanks  ,~~
[15:57] <wolf8> WaltzingAlong ~~this is the first time to use it
[15:58] <TheGentleman> BluesKaj, and WaltzingAlong  Thanks a lot!  I could solve my problem.
[15:58] <WaltzingAlong> TheGentleman: congrats
[15:58] <WaltzingAlong> wolf8: otherwise you could click the name #ubuntu should work in konversation
[15:59] <dthacker> bbl
[16:00] <dutu> hiho
[16:00] <wolf8> thank you ~~this is a free space, i like it , english talking is to hard to me ~~
[16:01] <wolf8> its bad
[16:01] <WaltzingAlong> wolf8: which channel would you like (language)? :D
[16:01] <dutu> someone who can help me wit a question to xdcc
[16:01] <dutu> im seaching a linux tool like xdcc catcher
[16:02] <FroggyTheGreat> Is there a HDD-checker program on the Kubuntu 7.10 livecd?  I can't immediately find one in the UI, and I don't know what the commandline would be.
[16:02] <dutu> i found xdcc fetch but im to stupid to install it
[16:02] <WaltzingAlong> FroggyTheGreat: smart tools?
[16:02] <ubuntu> there is any channel in another language, i.e. spanish or italian?
[16:02] <WaltzingAlong> !find smart | FroggyTheGreat
[16:02] <ubotu> froggythegreat: Found: libgdome2-cpp-smart-dev, libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a, smartdimmer, smartmontools, xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin (and 16 others)
[16:02] <WaltzingAlong> !es | ubotu
[16:02] <ubotu> ubotu: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[16:02] <WaltzingAlong> !it | ubuntu
[16:02] <ubotu> ubuntu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[16:03] <ubuntu> Thanks a lot! Muchas Gracias!  Molto Grazie!
[16:03] <ardchoille> dutu: What does xdcc do?
[16:03] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntu: :D
[16:03] <TimS> WaltzingAlong: What package do I need to install to change the login screen again?
[16:04] <ardchoille> kdmtheme
[16:04] <TimS> Ah, thanks
[16:04] <ardchoille> yw
[16:04] <FroggyTheGreat> So I'd do a n apt-get install smartmontools.
[16:05] <wolf8> chinese ,but i want to exchanges with others in different national
[16:05] <TimS> sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[16:05] <ubuntu> This is the first time that i use the IRC channels. Now I understand why people talks so good about them!  How can I change my nickname. I am using Konversation from Kubuntu Gutsy live cd
[16:06] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu: type /nick newname
[16:06] <Daisuke_Ido> whatever you want your name to ne :)
[16:06] <wolf8> i need a english guide
[16:06] <ardchoille> Does konv allow "/nick new_nick" ?
[16:06] <Daisuke_Ido> within reason, of course
[16:06] <wolf8> ~_~
[16:07] <Sierra-X> it certainly does :)
[16:07] <ardchoille> Sierra-X: ok
[16:07] <ubuntu> thank you Daisuke_ldo!!
[16:07] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[16:07] <TimS> Time to restart
[16:07] <TimS> brb
[16:08] <ubuntu_> hello
[16:08] <dutu> test 1234 :-)
[16:08] <Gizgiz><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:09] <wolf8> WaltzingAlong thanks~~
[16:09] <WaltzingAlong> !chinese | wolf8
[16:09] <ubotu> wolf8: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[16:11] <wolf8> please tell me the mean of " !chinese | wolf8"                  answer|asker?
[16:12] <wolf8> ubuntu thanks
[16:12] <wolf8> ~~
[16:12] <TimS> wolf8: It tells the bot to tell you about chinese help
[16:13] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone know the direct link to plain-html gmail so that Konqueror will load it?
[16:13] <mph> same problem with systemsettings....the broken pkgs did not resolve the issue, nor did the chown on .kde
[16:13] <wolf8> ~_~
[16:13] <wolf8> ubotu thankyou~~
[16:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thankyou~~ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:14] <mph> where can i better understand how .kde functions with regards to .kde/systemsettings and i imagine kio? i can google it too, but someone knows a good ref?
[16:14] <O5K4|2> thanks everybody! I leave the channel!! XD
[16:19] <FroggyTheGreat> !smartmontools
[16:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smartmontools - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:19] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone know how to launch smartmontools once I've installed it?
[16:19] <FroggyTheGreat> !smart
[16:19] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[16:21] <emilsedgh> kpackage (at least in kde4) uses smart
[16:24] <TimS> Using the nVidia drivers freezes my PC. It happens at random intervals and I think its a problem with my Graphics card, But I am not sure. Is there a way to check? It freezes my PC on Kubuntu but it did on Fedora aswell
[16:25] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: check applicable logs; different versions of the same module/driver; use 'nv' or 'vesa' when you desire no lockups   !nvidia
[16:27] <khumba-yo> moin
[16:27] <ariane> hi. i'm trying to emulate games with mupen64. i downloaded roms and unzipped them but when i try to run them with mupen64, nothing happens. could someone help me fix that please?
[16:31] <khumba-yo> bye @ll
[16:31] <BluesKaj> ariane, which version did you install , the command line or the gui ?
[16:32] <ariane> BluesKaj: of mupen64 ? i have the 0.5.1-1
[16:33] <ariane> BluesKaj: my version of kamefu is the 0.1.1
[16:39] <BluesKaj> ariane, type mupen64 in the konsole
[16:39] <Daisuke_Ido> bazhang: too many "i think i know everything" morons over there.  can't see how you can stand it
[16:40] <Jucato> emilsedgh: kpackages is maintained again? O.o
[16:40] <bazhang> Daisuke_Ido: hehe--just a change of pace :} still looking for a fix for your sound issue--do you get any specific messages--like no device found ,etc?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, helpful types eh ..."i got linux chops and you don't so too bad "
[16:42] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok's giving me "Audio output unavailable; the device is busy.  xine parameters:"
[16:42] <bazhang> Daisuke_Ido: ok, will continue to look.
[16:43] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, that message usually means the libxine1-ffmpeg app isn't installed
[16:43] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: i can assure you it is :)
[16:43] <Daisuke_Ido> it's been working fine for months
[16:43] <Daisuke_Ido> i get no sound in ANY app
[16:44] <BluesKaj> uhoh
[16:44] <Daisuke_Ido> even vlc, which is odd
[16:44] <Daisuke_Ido> but i have my startup sounds
[16:45] <bazhang> Daisuke_Ido: initial indications are that several items are trying to share the card--numerous bug reports filed with that card (from Feisty onwards)--will see if there is a fix
[16:46] <ariane> BluesKaj: ooh. tells me i've got a couple of plugins uninstalled