[02:07] <deanomac> effing pavu ctrl
[05:37] <Flutterwhat> does anyone have problems installing skype?
[05:41] <valorie> !skype
[05:42] <valorie> I've not tried, but lots have with success
[05:42] <valorie> I guess the multiarch section there in that first link is outdated
[06:29] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: I have fglrx installed, but amdcccle won't pick it up
[06:29] <TheFakeazneD525> wat do
[06:30] <valorie> woah, it's been a long time since I had to mess with that
[06:30] <valorie> !fglrx
[06:30] <valorie> those help pages are usually really helpful
[06:33] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8438361/
[06:34] <valorie> I think you are asking the wrong person, but I'll look.....
[06:36] <valorie> TheFakeazneD525: have you tried Driver Manager?
[06:36] <valorie> just alt+f2
[06:36] <TheFakeazneD525> I _only_ use Driver Manager
[06:36] <valorie> driver
[06:36] <valorie> ah, OK
[06:36] <valorie> but the settings aren't sticking/aren't being seen?
[06:36] <TheFakeazneD525> and it says "Using video driver from fglrx-updates"
[06:37] <valorie> :(
[06:37] <TheFakeazneD525> Hmm, wait
[06:37] <valorie> I have broadcom now
[06:38] <valorie> and there is a driver for it that Just Works
[06:38] <TheFakeazneD525> alright thats weird
[06:38] <TheFakeazneD525> The processor isn't overheating now when I play Red Eclipse...
[06:38] <TheFakeazneD525> a few moments earlier it was at 87.0C~
[06:39] <valorie> strange
[06:39] <TheFakeazneD525> yet, amdcccle still won't load
[06:39] <TheFakeazneD525> and, its not in the path either
[06:39] <TheFakeazneD525> a few days ago it vanished from my applications launcher menu
[06:41] <TheFakeazneD525> and it's heating up again...
[06:41] <valorie> I guess it's called `fglrx-amdcccle`
[06:41] <valorie> near the bottom of that linked page that's discussed a bit
[06:45] <TheFakeazneD525> modprobe: FATAL: Module fgrlx not found.
[06:45] <valorie> !
[06:45] <TheFakeazneD525> Its using the "radeon" module
[06:46] <TheFakeazneD525> maybe its because of a new kernel?
[06:46] <valorie> the default, I believe
[06:46] <valorie> that could be
[06:47] <valorie> you might have to re-do
[06:47] <TheFakeazneD525> how
[06:47] <valorie> look at the linked page....
[06:47] <valorie> I mean, somehow you installed fglrx?
[06:48] <TheFakeazneD525> One of the first things I did was install fglrx
[06:48] <TheFakeazneD525> on this computer
[06:48] <valorie> so do it again
[06:49] <TheFakeazneD525> um...
[06:49] <TheFakeazneD525> in /etc/X11 there's supposed to be an "xorg.conf" right?
[06:50] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: I think I don't have an xorg.conf
[06:51] <valorie> you have to create it, these days
[06:51] <valorie> it is deprecated
[06:51] <TheFakeazneD525> what should I do?
[06:53] <valorie> please look at the page I linked for you; the writers are the experts
[06:53] <valorie> I've not done any of this stuff for years
[06:53] <valorie> !fglrx
[06:53] <valorie> !fgrlx
[06:53] <valorie> sheesh
[06:54] <valorie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[06:55] <TheFakeazneD525> Alright, I'll reinstall the things according to tha page
[06:56] <valorie> ....assuming just re-installing didn't work
[06:56] <valorie> of course try that first
[06:57] <TheFakeazneD525> brb reboot
[07:01] <TheFakeazneD525> alright, now it's installing the fglrx and fglrx-amdccccccccle
[07:04] <valorie> excellent
[07:18] <TheFakeazneD525> \o/
[07:18] <TheFakeazneD525> it loaded the fglrx module
[07:18] <valorie> excellent!
[07:19] <valorie> chalk that up to the great writers of the help pages
[07:19] <TheFakeazneD525> now I need to test if redeclipse runs smoothly
[07:19] <valorie> I'm guess that's a game
[07:20] <TheFakeazneD525> Ya
[07:20] <TheFakeazneD525> its in the official repos :3
[07:21] <TheFakeazneD525> say valorie, where could I find a binary of vokoscreen built with ffmpeg instead of libav?
[07:25] <valorie> is this a test?
[07:25] <valorie> I know what ffmpeg are, and libav
[07:26] <valorie> no idea about vokoscreen
[07:27] <TheFakeazneD525> frontend to ffmpeg/libav to record the desktop
[07:27] <TheFakeazneD525> I installed a ppa to give me ffmpeg instead of libav, and that broke vokoscreen
[07:30] <valorie> ah
[07:30] <valorie> you probably will have to try to build it from source
[07:31] <valorie> front end probably won't take you long
[07:32] <valorie> although if it's really important to you, you might be able to find an old deb over on the debian repos
[07:56] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:56] <TheFakeazneD525> morning
[07:56] <TheFakeazneD525> lordievader: I have a question
[07:57] <lordievader> Hey TheFakeazneD525, how are you?
[07:57] <TheFakeazneD525> so I have wine installed, and I want swf files to play with a windows standalone flashplayer
[07:57] <TheFakeazneD525> should I make the file association such that it executes wine /path/to/flashplayer ?
[07:57] <TheFakeazneD525> also I'm good, you?
[07:58] <lordievader> No idea, I dislike Wine quite a bit.
[07:58] <lordievader> But I am doing good though ;)
[07:59] <lordievader> Besides Linux has stand alone flash players.
[08:02] <TheFakeazneD525> they're very alpha-stage though :c
[08:03] <lordievader> Gnash is allright IIRC.
[08:03] <lordievader> Better than using Wine, but then again, anything is...
[08:50] <Fyr> guys! why does kubuntu 14.10 KDE 5 not run in VirtualBox?
[08:51] <Fyr> some errors prevent it from running. =(
[08:54] <lordievader> I've heard of other reports where it was trouble some, please ask around in #kubuntu-devel Fyr
[08:58] <valorie> !virtual
[08:59] <lordievader> !kqemu
[08:59] <valorie> oh that's interesting
[09:01] <lordievader> "If your CPU supports VT or you have access to hardware that supports VT, you have no need for kqemu", ah never mind then...
[09:05] <TheFakeazneD525> !Cedega
[10:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:53] <TheFakeazneD525> sup BluesKaj
[10:54] <BluesKaj> not much TheFakeazneD525 , morning coffee :)
[11:20] <JakeNukem> Hi guys. I have problem with Kubuntu. Do not turn off the laptop after pressing the button "Turn Off".  After ubdates few days ago.
[11:23] <JakeNukem> Anyone know how to fix it?
[11:29] <JakeNukem_> Hi all. I have a problem with Kubuntu. Do not turn off the laptop after pressing the button "Turn Off". Anyone know how to fix it?
[11:30] <JakeNukem_> Hi all. I have a problem with Kubuntu. Do not turn off the laptop after pressing the button "Turn Off". Anyone know how to fix it?
[11:35] <BluesKaj> JakeNukem_, there a small white arrow pointing down beside the close button , make sure you click on that
[11:53] <luc4> Hello! Does the tech preview of kubuntu 14.10 use wayland?
[11:54] <TheFakeazneD525> nope
[12:05] <nestor_> ls
[12:06] <TheFakeazneD525> nestor_: this isn't a terminal :P
[12:14] <BluesKaj>   ⍢
[12:27] <Ms-Dos> Guenas
[14:45] <davls82> does anybody know how can i repair kde settings?
[14:47] <BluesKaj> davls82, which kde settings ?
[14:47] <BluesKaj> davls82, kmenu>computer>system settings
[14:48] <davls82> yes but the fonts looking ugly after update and the theme looks ugly to i try default setting but don't help
[14:49] <BluesKaj> davls82, system settings>application appearance>fonts
[14:50] <davls82> i know where the font setting are but it don't help fonts looking ugly i try hinting but no effekt seems something wrong with the kde config files
[14:52] <BluesKaj> davls82, your opinion of ugly is strictly subjective, but you can also try dpi setting on the font page
[15:57] <mario__> hola
[15:57] <BluesKaj> hi mario__
[15:58] <mario__> soy nuevo aqui
[15:58] <BluesKaj> !es | mario__
[15:59] <mario__> buenas tardes
[16:07] <andersl> I find it very difficult to use kubuntu software system. I desperately try to get a up to date version of digikam, which should be available in something like "phillips ppa". I thought I added that to the software thingy, but I STILL have only an outdated digikam version.
[16:07] <andersl> Is it possible to somehow get a up to date application without having to compile it from source?
[16:08] <luc4> you mean 4.3.0?
[16:10] <luc4> andersl: I installed it without issues. Try with this: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/09/digikam-4-3-install-in-ubuntu-1404/.
[16:11] <andersl> luc4: 4.3.0 is outdated. The current version is 4.5, and due to the huge amount of bugs in the 4.x series, updating is crusial
[16:11] <andersl> 4.3 is horrible
[16:14] <luc4> andersl: that seems to be a development version
[16:15] <luc4> andersl: I built 4.4 last week or so. What makes you think it is in that ppa?
[16:18] <andersl> hm, sorry - 4.3 is current... I just have to wait for them to fix more issues  :\
[16:22] <Guest30357> Hey.I'm trying to write a video DVD using k3b.but get: Could not determine size of result image file.
[16:29] <BluesKaj> Guest30357, pls don't crosspost
[16:48] <Krixvar> BluesKaj: I believe he was told to post here instead of there
[16:49] <BluesKaj> Krixvar, he posted in 3 different chats
[16:49] <Krixvar> BluesKaj: ah didn't see that then, my bad
[16:49] <BluesKaj> nothing bad about it :)
[16:50] <BluesKaj> you may be right about the fact that he was told to post here
[16:51] <Krixvar> I'm pretty sure he was, but 3 is kinda excessive haha
[16:52] <BluesKaj> yup
[16:55] <skinux> How do we tell KDE to show icons on the desktop?
[16:58] <Krixvar> skinux: what kind of icons?
[16:58] <skinux> Desktop icons
[16:58] <skinux> All there is, is a blue background and "Desktop" link in top right.
[16:59] <skinux> Every other desktop environment has desktop shortcuts, why not KDE by default?
[17:00] <veqz> I guess it felt more clean that way? Also, it is possible to use several Folder widgets at the same time to show different folders
[17:00] <veqz> anyways, to get the desktop shortcuts:
[17:01] <veqz> right-click on desktop -> Default Desktop Settings
[17:01] <veqz> switch Layout from "Default Desktop" to "Folder"
[17:01] <veqz> click OK
[17:02] <skinux> Woah! Just looking at my CPU usage. Both cores are near 100%, RAM 86% and SWAP at 23%. Doesn't look good at all.
[17:02] <veqz> what are you running?
[17:02] <skinux> What do you mean?
[17:03] <veqz> to run two cores at ~100% :)
[17:03] <skinux> Chrome, Firefox, Terminal, Sublime Text, and HexChat. In system tray: Skype, Weather, System monitor, DropBox
[17:04] <veqz> huh. strange. that's close to what I'm running atm, and everything seems calm here
[17:04] <veqz> did you get your desktop icons btw?
[17:06] <skinux> Chrome/tabs/extensions are using 958,044 memory
[17:07] <skinux> Yes, thank you.
[17:07] <veqz> haha ok :)
[17:08] <veqz> I'm usually using Opear with 40+ tabs myself, but I just cleaned up, and am down to a measely 4 open tabs atm
[17:08] <Guest76712> what is best chat for help with linux? Have some questions on permissions
[17:08] <skinux> How do you even have the space for 40 tabs? How do you need so many tabs anyway???
[17:08] <skinux> #linux
[17:09] <skinux> Guest76712: Your client probably has a channel list feature.
[17:09] <skinux> Unless you use a web-based client, in which case probably not.
[17:10] <veqz> the tabs get rather tiny, but the rightmost tabs are usually about what I'm currently working on, and further to the left are tabs for projects I'm not working on right at this moment, but which I keep open to remind myself of what I was doing :P
[17:10]  * skinux I've wanted to contribute such features to web-based IRC projects. Too bad I've never thought I had the time.
[17:11] <skinux> veqz: Why not just bookmark stuff you're not actively using?
[17:11] <skinux> I wish there were a some kind of website to compare various usages with that of others to determine where usage could be cut-back.
[17:12] <veqz> cause then it feels like I've "concluded" some task. if I keep the tabs open, they're still in my "working memory", so to say
[17:21] <skinux> That makes sense.
[17:22] <skinux> If I keep too many tabs open, I try to do everything at once and end up getting nothing done.
[17:59] <mackie> Howdy. I'm presently running Kubuntu, but I'm finding KDE a bit too resource-intensive for my (old, old) hardware. I'm trying to install lxde, and folks in #linux said I'll need to "clean up after" KDE. Through a short and frustrating journey I find myself directed here. How do I "clean up after" KDE?
[18:00] <soee_> maybe try to remove kubuntu-desktop package
[18:00] <mackie> I'll try that.
[18:04] <mackie> I feel like I should restart first...
[18:05] <mackie> Probably a good idea?
[18:05] <TheFakeazneD525> mackie: you should also remove most of the widgets
[18:05] <TheFakeazneD525> if not all
[18:05] <TheFakeazneD525> and unload KRunner plugins
[18:06] <mackie> Oh. That sounds like a good idea. Do I need to do all that manually, or is there a straightforward way to go about it?
[18:06] <TheFakeazneD525> er, there are probably guides online...
[18:06] <TheFakeazneD525> I have to go, but maybe someone else can help
[18:06] <mackie> Okies. Thanks.
[18:06] <TheFakeazneD525> search "manage krunner plugins" "manage plasma desktop widgets" and "make KDE faster"
[18:06] <mackie> My google fu is AWFUL.
[18:06] <TheFakeazneD525> mackie: and always reboot after doing stuff with a lot of packages
[18:06] <mackie> Thank you very much.
[18:07] <TheFakeazneD525> mackie: there are always others here
[18:07] <TheFakeazneD525> but yeah, good luck man
[18:07]  * mackie nods.
[18:07] <mackie> Still, I'm kind of a fan of being taught to fish.
[18:08] <TheFakeazneD525> Its always good to do things by the guidebooks one or two times
[18:08] <TheFakeazneD525> then taking off on your own
[18:08] <TheFakeazneD525> I learned that after 20+ reinstalls
[18:08] <TheFakeazneD525> >.>
[18:08] <mackie> I do rather enjoy learning the rules before I deliberately start breaking them.
[18:08] <mackie> Sadly, I'm a long ways from there in Linux.
[18:09] <mackie> But, all things in time, I guess.
[18:12] <mackie> I'll restart now. Be back later in all likelihood, but in case I'm not, thanks again.
[20:32] <lordievader> !screenshot
[20:32] <lordievader> !screenshots
[20:32] <lordievader> Hmm, is ubottu broken...?
[20:33] <lordievader> Ah he was just slow.
[20:38] <Torededer> valorie are you there?
[20:39] <valorie> hi tornz
[20:39] <valorie> oops
[20:40] <valorie> tab fail
[20:48] <Bradoet> what should i do if my kde icons keep disappearing on the desktop folder view? steps to reproduce are: change desktop layout to folder view, add some icons to the desktop and arrange them the way i like them. shutdown down computer. come back to computer after a day or so, start it up. login. desktop icons are gone.
[20:48] <Bradoet> the only way i know how to fix this is if change my desktop layout back to default desktop and back to folder layout. however if do this, then desktop icons are then not in the correct place
[20:58] <markit> I'm trying to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04, but with apt-get update (well, aptitude update) I get bzip2: Data integrity error when decompressing
[20:58] <markit> and W: GPG error: http://se.archive.ubuntu.com precise-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:59] <markit> I've tried with different country mirrors
[20:59] <markit> also removed /var/lib/apt/lists
[20:59] <markit> no luck
[20:59] <markit> any known problem globally to ubuntu repositories?
[20:59] <markit> some day ago I upgraded another pc without all those troubles
[21:02] <markit> found, a proxy was set
[21:05] <David1965> I hope that the firmware update that came through today fixes the issue that I and a few other people are having which results in the Hard-Drive led staying on constantly while the Hard-Drive is not actually doing anything
[21:06] <David1965> Cryptodan_Android are you there
[21:29] <m_tadeu> hi...I have a dual monitor config and it seems I only have them mirrored...how can I set them side-by-side?
[21:30] <TheFakeazneD525> System Settings > Display and Monitor
[21:30] <TheFakeazneD525> then mess around with the config
[21:36] <m_tadeu> well...I set them side-by-side...at least in the drawing it shows like that....but they're mirrorer
[21:37] <TheFakeazneD525> Make sure only one has a star
[21:37] <m_tadeu> yup...only one has it
[21:37] <TheFakeazneD525> and make sure to apply settings
[21:39] <m_tadeu> yup...all aplied
[21:40] <TheFakeazneD525> hmm, odd


 @mitya57 xnox is going to propose a PR to qtbase on Salsa merging his archive upload, I can review it
 Great!


[11:06] <lfzaghi> Hello! Does anybody know how to set Xubuntu to hibernate or shutdown the system after a certain time? xfce4-power-manager seems to only let me suspend it.
[11:09] <tomreyn> lfzaghi: it should be possible with a custom systemd-logind configuration - but this would not be exposed to the GUI, i think.
[11:10] <tomreyn> man logind.conf
[11:10] <lfzaghi> Ok, will look into it. Thanks!
[11:11] <tomreyn> this said, i've only used this with gdm, and i'm not sure which graphical login manager xubuntu currently uses.
[11:12] <tomreyn> i think it's lightdm
[12:06] <lfzaghi> :tomreyn Just to let you know, the solution you posted didn't work (altering IdleAction to 'hibernate' does nothing). And hibernate seems to be the correct command, because it is mentioned elsewhere in the .conf. Xubuntu does use lightdm though.
[12:58] <twrocket> hi


[00:25] <krytarik> Wild_Man, guiverc: In the post excerpt on Facebook, it really just grabs any image it can get and cuts it to a square - so not really anything we could do there, short of using a square image. >_<  And the same with the profile image on the various social media platforms, it has to be a square image - so I'd stick with the old one there for now, it's not really bad, just not very fitting for ...
[00:26] <krytarik> ... the posts themselves.
[04:58] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: KDE Applications Start Conquering the Windows 10 World @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/kde-applications-start-conquering-the-windows-10-world-529149.shtml (by Bogdan Popa, Microsoft News Editor)
[06:33] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Goodbye, Windows: Another Government Plans En-Masse Transition to Linux @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/goodbye-windows-another-government-plans-en-masse-transition-to-linux-529150.shtml (by Bogdan Popa, Microsoft News Editor)
[06:34] <JackFrost> But how many stick with it?
[07:43] <guiverc> eol (w7) this year, migration planned to be done by 2026 ... good thinking/planning is in evidence
[09:29] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: DevOps tools in 2020: Why consider Juju? @ https://ubuntu.com/blog/devops-tools-in-2020-why-consider-juju
[10:33] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: How to upgrade from Windows 7 to Ubuntu – Desktop tour and applications @ https://ubuntu.com/blog/how-to-upgrade-from-windows-7-to-ubuntu-desktop-tour-and-applications
[15:38] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: Ubuntu at Embedded World 2020 @ https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-at-embedded-world-2020
[16:20] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Firefox 73 Released with Accessibility Improvements, Little Else @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=163281 (by Joey Sneddon)
[19:39] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: MATE Desktop 1.24 Release Arrives with a Slew of Improvements @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=163335 (by Joey Sneddon)
[20:29] -BottyMcBotFace:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: Amazon EC2 Hibernation for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS now available @ https://ubuntu.com/blog/amazon-ec2-hibernation-for-ubuntu-16-04-lts-now-available


[12:02] <infinity> TBH, most of my recent experience is with Compaq/HP and IBM gear, which has management tools that don't suck.
[12:03] <infinity> The Adaptec i2o stuff should be good too, but more expensive than the card you have there.
[12:16] <Pygi> welcome m_peus
[12:16] <m_peus> hi Pygi
[12:16] <infinity> Pygi : Seriously, is that a script, or are you just watching like a hawk for /joins?
[12:16] <Pygi> infinity: no script, lol ;)
[12:17] <infinity> Pygi : If it's a script, I'd really prefer if you turned it off in all the ubuntu-* channels you're in.  If it's just you typing, it's still a bit... Repetitve.
[12:17] <Pygi> just randomly look there and there and if somebody joined (no matter when) I say Welcome ;)
[12:17] <Pygi> infinity: it's not a script, but if you can I can stop saying it
[12:18] <infinity> Well, a personal greeting here and there is fine "Hey Bob, how's life, haven't seen you in the channel for a few days", but welcoming every single /join gets a bit old. :)
[12:18] <Pygi> kk
[12:19] <Pygi> no problem
[12:20] <infinity> Thanks, dude.
[12:35] <nictuku> infinity, what were your ideas about how to handle remote debconf? a remote database is not good enough, i believe. Is wrapping a readline frontend a decent idea?
[12:36] <nictuku> with dpkg-preconfigure, that is.
[12:39] <nictuku> or maybe -feditor
[12:39] <nictuku> with a replaced editor environment
[12:43] <infinity> Remote debconf was a sketchy "down the road" thing.
[12:45] <nictuku> but it is necessary, isnt it?
[12:46] <infinity> The first cut should really just handle simple package installation, sources.list.d/ setup, and remote package listings would be nice.
[12:46] <infinity> Remote debconf is less necessary than you'd think.
[12:46] <infinity> I set all my machines to use NONINTERACTIVE frontends, and sort out stuff later.  It's the only sane way (currently) to do remote system management.
[12:46] <infinity> So, expecting people to continue to do that while we figure out the most clever way to do remote debconf is fine by me.
[12:46] <nictuku> what about conffiles?
[12:47] <infinity> I'd rather something that was tightly integrated with debconf than a half-assed solution cause we thought we needed it.
[12:47] <nictuku> i see.
[12:47] <infinity> conffiles can also be done without intervention.
[12:47] <nictuku> by using the current installed version?
[12:47] <infinity> You can select "always use old", "always use new", or "ask"
[12:48] <infinity> The latter is clearly the default in both apt and dpkg.
[12:48] <infinity> But you can set either of the other two in apt, and it'll bubble down to dpkg.
[12:49] <infinity> So this system would, initially, just let admins make that choice (always use old" or "always use new", and we'll pass the approriate options down.  We can handle the "ask" mode after the basics are handled.
[12:49] <infinity> (The problem with "ask" is the system can't be asyncronous)
[12:49] <infinity> So, in reality, what you probably want is "always use (whichever makes more sense)" coupled with a system that allows you to later go in and view diffs.
[12:49] <infinity> Which is easy enough to do, since you'll have the old/new files there as .dpkg-{new,old} files.
[12:52] <nictuku> I see in the draft the use of ssh-server in the clients would be required. I don't see why. Wouldn't the push operations just ask a pull from the client? Could you explain?
[12:59] <infinity> You use SSH to trigger the clients to pull from the server.
[12:59] <infinity> This is not, strictly-speaking, required.  It's not the only way to do it, afterall.
[01:00] <infinity> And if we're already building a bit of an HTTP-based security model for client->server, it can certainly be done in the other direction too.
[01:00] <infinity> The point is just to have some sort of authenticated trigger, and SSH triggers are something we've used a lot in the past (for instance, all Ubuntu and Debian primary mirrors are triggered using SSH)
[01:00] <nictuku> Yes that's why I believe too.
[01:01] <nictuku> s/why/what/
[02:04] <nictuku> is there any doc for python-apt? docstrings didn't help me much.
[02:18] <MarioMeyer> heya nictuku .. u from br?
[02:18] <nictuku> yes.
[02:19] <MarioMeyer> can i pvt?
[02:19] <nictuku> sure
[03:09] <Pygi> hehe,matt
[03:18] <Pygi> heh lbm ;)
[05:29] <Pygi> sorry ealden, can't say welcome ;)
[05:30] <MarioMeyer> heya chara...
[05:31] <Pygi> chara?
[05:31] <MarioMeyer> in pt_BR we call a 'chara' the person who has the same name as ours...
[05:31] <MarioMeyer> :P
[05:32] <Pygi> ah ;)
[05:32] <Pygi> hey Mario
[05:32] <ealden> Pygi: why not?
[05:32] <ealden> hehe
[05:32] <Pygi> ealden: I was 'forbiden' to say welcome to everyone who joins ;)
[05:32] <ealden> WTH hehehe
[05:33] <MarioMeyer> lol
[05:34] <ealden> umm
[05:34] <ealden> Pygi: ok
[05:34] <ealden> heheh
[05:34] <Pygi> heh ;)
[05:44] <Unfun> lol
[05:46] <Pygi> ok, it's isn't that funny ;)
[07:26] <neuralis> infinity: ping
[07:27] <neuralis> fabbione: ping
[07:50] <fabbione> neuralis: pong?
[07:50] <neuralis> fabbione: hey! long time no see
[07:51] <neuralis> fabbione: when you have a chance, can you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTesting (bottom) and pitch in ideas for what else belongs there
[07:52] <fabbione> neuralis: no.. i didn't even know there was a spec
[07:52] <neuralis> fabbione: neither did i. this is part of the CommunityServerHardwareTesting spec, i inherited it from infinity on the last day of ubz
[07:53] <fabbione> ah ok
[07:53] <neuralis> fabbione: but mdz had something else in mind for it entirely, so that's what ServerTesting is -- i just braindumped the obvious things that came to mind at the bottom
[07:53] <fabbione> i will have to look at it
[07:54] <neuralis> fabbione: okay, thanks. if you think of anything else that we'd want people to test, let me know or just add it to the page.
[07:54] <fabbione> ok
[07:54] <fabbione> i wil
[07:54] <fabbione> +l
[07:54] <neuralis> btw, we have an almost-complete full userspace port of openssi to dapper
[07:55] <neuralis> everything except udev (which is from warty), because we're sticking with our 2.6.10 kernel
[07:55] <fabbione> ah nice
[07:55] <fabbione> udev is changed a lot
[07:55] <fabbione> remember we have upstream version freeze mid January
[07:56] <neuralis> yep, i've notified our developers, they know about the deadline
[07:57] <fabbione> yes and getting the code a bit before that is better
[07:57] <neuralis> i also haven't gotten around to asking mdz when it makes sense to start hardware certification for servers
[07:58] <neuralis> i.e. at what point in the release cycle
[07:58] <neuralis> i'm thinking feature freeze. you?
[07:58] <fabbione> possibly.. we need to ask him
[07:58] <fabbione> sorry i am not particularly helpful today
[07:58] <fabbione> i am at about 16 hours into kernel security
[07:58] <fabbione> and i am tired
[07:58] <neuralis> no problem, i mailed him, so he'll respond when he gets back from vacation
[07:59] <neuralis> ouch! sorry, man
[07:59] <neuralis> well none of this is urgent, so don't worry about it, we'll talk later
[08:03] <fabbione> ok :)
[11:02] <sebest_> hello
[11:02] <Pygi> hi
[11:03] <sebest_> i'd like to know , where i could find info on what is going on in ubuntu server land (i m already subscribed to the ml)
[11:03] <sebest_> i also read the wiki (the spec)
[11:04] <Pygi> well, what exactly are you interested in?
[11:05] <sebest_> the web ui and the config files under RCS
[11:05] <Pygi> hehe, you should ask fabbione about that, but he's probably sleeping now
[11:05] <Pygi> he's been squashing bugs for 16 hours ;)
[11:05] <sebest_> :)
[11:06] <sebest_> i'd like to know if ubuntu-server will have a specific goal (eg: small business) or will be a common server OS like debian/redhat and the like
[11:07] <Nafallo> it will be ubuntu-minimal I guess :-P
[11:07] <Pygi> with a few modifications
[11:07] <Nafallo> Pygi: oh?
[11:07] <sebest_> Nafallo, no specificity?
[11:07] <Pygi> Naffalo: it will feature server tuned kernel, and some other things
[11:08] <Pygi> I'd rather not go into much detail right now ;)
[11:09] <Nafallo> Pygi: yea, but ubuntu-minimal + server-kernel is what will differ from a normal install, right? the md5sum-thingie will be able to work on... ehm, "ubuntu-desktop" as well?
[11:09] <sebest_> i mean, is the simplicity to administer it a goal?
[11:10] <Pygi> sebest: that was the goal of project that was supposed to work/ship along with -server, but it is no longer in development
[11:10] <Pygi> maybe someone else take it over tho
[11:10] <Pygi> and there are some utilities planned
[11:10] <sebest_> For the moment i don't really see what is the specificity of ubuntu server against a vanilla debian?
[11:11] <sebest_> first i thought it would be done to nicely integrate with the desktop version
[11:11] <Pygi> here's the list of packages for -server: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/dapper-install-i386.list
[11:12] <sebest_> eg: ease centralized user administration: ldap/kerberos, central update of many workstations
[11:13] <Nafallo> sebest_: I don't think we will have the manpower to develop that for dapper.
[11:13] <Pygi> maybe dapper+1
[11:13] <sebest_> Nafallo, i'm asking question to well understand the goals of the project
[11:15] <Nafallo> sebest_: ah, thought you tried to make up your mind if you would install debian or ubuntu. sorry :-).
[11:15] <Pygi> nafallo: :)
[11:15] <sebest_> Nafallo , no :)
[11:15] <Nafallo> sebest_: fabbione is working on some goodies we will have already in dapper though :-P
[11:16] <sebest_> Nafallo, in fact i'd like to contribute on specific things, but i didn't want to duplicate
[11:16] <sebest_> so i'm trying to get involve, and find some sources of informations on what is going on
[11:17] <Pygi> hm, so sebest, wanna contribute?
[11:17] <Nafallo> yea, same here :-).
[11:17] <Pygi> send a mail to the server list, and I believe you will  be lead from there
[11:17] <Nafallo> if I can find something I could do, that is ;-)
[11:18] <Pygi> naffalo: I know about you ;)
[11:18] <sebest_> Pygi, i already mailed in the ml :)
[11:18] <Pygi> sebest: well, good, then :)
[11:18] <sebest_> i read the the wiki and noticed that log aren't mention
[11:18] <Pygi> nafallo: go work on simple implementation of central update workstations utility ;)
[11:18] <sebest_> i think it's a really important feature missing
[11:19] <sebest_> i hope we won't be left in the cold with the old syslogd ? :)
[11:19] <Nafallo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerCandy
[11:19] <Nafallo> Pygi: pffft :-P
[11:20] <Pygi> nafallo: what? ;)
[11:20] <sebest_> Nafallo, nothing about logs in this page
[11:20] <Nafallo> sebest_: no, this is what will hopefully be implemented for dapper.
[11:21] <sebest_> Nafallo, what is planned? use something different from syslogd?
[11:22] <Nafallo> sebest_: I have no idea outside that spec :-)
[11:50] <tepsipakki> lamont: around?


[21:13] <MarcWeber> Which is correct shutdown behaviour? stop all jobs , sync and run halt? Or is there kind of special initctl shutdown all command?
[21:15] <sadmac2> MarcWeber: no special command I know of


 Guys, is there a software like rufus or universal usb installer for lubuntu
[13:12] <guiverc> @Aj, https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.1/3.1.4/startup-disk-creator.html
[13:13] <guiverc> myself, I use `dus` (or mkusb); maybe not as pretty but functional & safer than simple `dd`
 @Aj [Guys, is there a software like rufus or universal usb installer for lubuntu], For linux iso u can use dd command. … For windows iso there is Woeusb
 i use mintstick, you can download its deb file and install it to lubuntu
 The deb file source is at https://packages.linuxmint.com
 @ItzSwirlz [The deb file source is at https://packages.linuxmint.com], idk why but my browsers couldnt load that page, i used this page to download which is a continue of yours … http://packages.linuxmint.com/pool/main/m/mintstick/
 lates uploaded one
 @tbs61 [idk why but my browsers couldnt load that page, i used this page to download whi …], yeah thats it