[00:00] <werever> thanks again Gentoo64, I renaming .gconf before delete all conf files, cya
[00:00] <danny> userhost danny
[00:00] <dany> Si2100, what cmd to use for extract it
[00:00] <Kuwanger> I'm looking for a relatively cheap AGP graphics card that supports things like OpenGL 2.x, Shader Model 3, and has decent open source drivers.  Any ideas?
[00:00] <Si2100> dany, i do it manually
[00:01] <Si2100> dany, try this: tar jxvf compat-wireless-2.6.tar.bz2
[00:01] <Si2100> cd compat-wireless-20*
[00:01] <Si2100> ./scripts/driver-select atheros
[00:01] <Si2100> make
[00:01] <Si2100> sudo make install
[00:01] <FloodBot1> Si2100: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:01] <Si2100> Whooo, i predicted that =)
[00:02] <Relondo> Can someone help me with uninstalling and then reinstalling Ubuntu through the command line?
[00:03] <EvilResistance> you cant uninstall on an active system
[00:04] <brightspark> Relondo, once you uninstall Ubuntu, you don't /have/ a command line
[00:04] <EvilResistance> you'll need a livecd or an install cd to overwrite ubuntu
[00:04] <Relondo> I have one :)
[00:04] <Si2100> Why do you want ot do it form command line and not use GUI ?
[00:04] <Relondo> I need to do a sudo-grub install.
[00:04] <Relondo> Whatever that means.
[00:05] <Si2100> by anychange is the fact tat you cant boot into buunt ?
[00:05] <Si2100> ubunt ?
[00:05] <Si2100> ... Ubuntu ?
[00:05] <Relondo> Yes.
[00:05] <EvilResistance> Relondo:  is GRUB just not installing?
[00:05] <EvilResistance> oh that
[00:05] <Si2100> Yeah
[00:05] <Si2100> Relonda, look at this
[00:05] <EvilResistance> Relondo:  you dont need to reinstall ubuntu btw
[00:05] <Si2100> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajs9rO5upZA&feature=related
[00:05] <EvilResistance> Relondo:  just GRUB from a LiveCD
[00:05] <Si2100> i did this the smorning and it safed my ass
[00:05] <deltaray_> Check out the random shortened URL I got: https://bitly.com/ubUN2u
[00:05] <Relondo> Watching now.
[00:06] <dany> Si2100, done, what next
[00:06] <luis_> hello
[00:06] <Si2100> dany, you extacted the tar.. next you need to drag intsall.ph i think into the termiankl
[00:06] <luis_> i have a question, can someon point me in the right direction i am looking for help
[00:06] <iceroot> !ask | luis_
[00:06] <Si2100> lusi_ whats the question ?
[00:06] <dany> Si2100, how doing that
[00:07] <Si2100> open up the terminak
[00:07] <Relondo> Hey, how do I get back to GUI after switching to terminal?
[00:07] <luis_> i am using antiX-M11 wich is based in ubuntu-debian can someone point me in the right path to get some support?
[00:07] <WanderingEnder> Relondo: Ctrl-Alt-F7
[00:07] <Si2100> and look in the extracted folder for a file called " install. somink ?
[00:07] <iceroot> !alis | luis_
[00:07] <icarious> Which package manages the spell check for pidgin and systemwide??
[00:08] <luis_> ok thanks
[00:08] <popeium> I installed gnome tweak tools and enabled a shell extension to see the power off option always when i hit my name and then i used the command "r" to refresh the environment andthen everything went away, all i can see is the desktopp wallpaper, if i right click i can create folder and change backround but nothing else shwos and the menu and terminalkeyboard shortcuts dont work and the way i can log on and everything works is if when i log on
[00:08] <popeium> i use gnome classioc
[00:09] <dany> Si2100, how doing that
[00:09] <Si2100> dany, How to install it from the terminal ?
[00:10] <Relondo> Si2100, will this video help me even if I could never get to the grub in the first place?
[00:10] <Si2100> use a live CD
[00:10] <dany> Si2100, i extract the tar file what to do now
[00:10] <Si2100> dany, goto the extracted folder and drag intall.ph to the termianl
[00:11] <notlistening> 3g modems, I can get my 3g modem to detect on ubuntu server but can not get it to create the interfaces for ttyusb on boot any ideas?
[00:12] <notlistening> I have loaded all the related modules
[00:12] <notlistening> It has scsi storage on it aswell as another device
[00:12] <dany> Si2100, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771739/
[00:13] <Si2100> OKie
[00:13] <Womkes> own3dtv down ?
[00:13] <Si2100> go to compat-wireless-3.2-rc1-1  and look for a file nameed " install"
[00:13] <dany> Si2100, there is no install.ph
[00:13] <popeium> I installed gnome tweak tools and enabled a shell extension to see the power off option always when i hit my name and then i used the command "r" to refresh the environment andthen everything went away, all i can see is the desktop wallpaper, if i right click i can create folder and change backround but nothing else shows and  keyboard shortcuts dont work  so im stuck and i have to physically shut down the computer and the way i can log on a
[00:13] <popeium> nd everything works is if when i choose  gnome classic but ubuntu and gnome and user defined sessions all do the same thing
[00:13] <Si2100> dany, in there anythink called install ?
[00:14] <dany> Si2100, no nothing
[00:14] <Si2100> okie am just downloading it now
[00:14] <brightspark> dany, why don't you give us a ls pastebin from inside the compat-wireless directory?
[00:14] <brightspark> might be able to spot it
[00:15] <Relondo> Can anyone help me fix my graphics card being incompatible with Ubuntu?
[00:15] <slakcphil> when running hdparm, what does the MB stand for... meagabytes or megabits?
[00:15] <Si2100> Relondo, is it ATI ?
[00:15] <EvilResistance> Relondo:  what card?
[00:15] <Relondo> Si2100, Yep.
[00:15] <EvilResistance> ah
[00:15] <Si2100> whats the issie xD
[00:15] <slakcphil> excuse me hdparm -tT
[00:15] <Si2100> brightspark, it looks like you have to compile your own dirver...
[00:15] <Digital_Lemon> how can i copy a file to a folder with a file with that name already, and append incremental number on the new file?
[00:15] <Relondo> I'm actually trying to install Ubuntu on two different computers, and both are having trouble.
[00:16] <Si2100> whats teh issue ?
[00:16] <Relondo> Anyway, the problem is that Ubuntu has no video.
[00:16] <Si2100> arrr
[00:16] <lloowen> Hello all! Is there anyone here dual booting using Ubuntu and w*****s ? I'm asking as I'm wondering how anyone has solved it using Dropbox. I've seen several solutions on the internet but no mention to what file system to use. Ubuntu cannot write to an NTFS partition, yes?
[00:16] <dany> brightspark, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771739/
[00:16] <slakcphil> lloowen, install the ntfs-3g
[00:16] <brightspark> Si2100, do you get a makefile at least?
[00:16] <slakcphil> and it will write
[00:16] <Relondo> I can hear it, but the only thing I see is what I believe is the grub, and some horizontal white lines.
[00:17] <Relondo> *is the grub. Not I believe.
[00:17] <slakcphil> Relondo that sounds like a bad video card
[00:17] <brightspark> dany, that's from within your home directory, not the compat-wireless one
[00:17] <Relondo> Yeah, I know the problem. I don't know how to fix, though.
[00:17] <lloowen> slakcphil: Do you mean create a shared patition that both operative systems could write to?
[00:17] <Si2100> brightspark: http://paste.ubuntu.com/771740/
[00:17] <slakcphil> Relondo does it during the bios splash?
[00:17] <Si2100> brightspark, yeah you get a make files
[00:18] <Si2100> brightspark, and a read me on how doo to do
[00:18] <Relondo> Bios splash? As in, when Ubuntu first starts up and should show the little purple box with people in it?
[00:18] <slakcphil> lloowen, yeah that would work,
[00:18] <slakcphil> Relondo, like when it says toshiba or dell
[00:18] <Si2100> brightspark, dany, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771741/
[00:18] <dany> brightspark, can install teamviewer and access to my system
[00:19] <Relondo> Oh, yeah, I figured that's what you were talking about, but couldn't see why the graphics card would matter there. No, there's no problem there, or with regular windows.
[00:19] <Relondo> (I am trying to dualboot Windows 7 and Ubuntu)
[00:19] <Si2100> i got that
[00:20] <brightspark> Si2100, sounds like you just run make install and you've got it
[00:21] <ap> Hello, does anybody know how to get into an bricked android mobile using command line in ubuntu? any gurus out there?
[00:21] <Si2100> However, that parts beyoung my understadning...
[00:21] <ap> ...via usb
[00:21] <Si2100> brb
[00:21] <meganerd> ap: It depends on the android device
[00:21] <roly> hola alguien habla español?
[00:21] <iceroot> ap: #android
[00:21] <escott> !es | roly
[00:22] <ap> hello meganerd , it's a htc G1 android
[00:22] <Relondo> Hablo algun espanol....
[00:22] <dany> brightspark, I'm not familar with linux , can u plz guid me step by step
[00:22] <roly> join ubuntu-es
[00:23] <tonsofpcs> un poco, pero #ubuntu-es
[00:23] <dany> brightspark, download  here and access to my system
[00:24] <roly> jjaa me estoy cambiando de canal y lo escribi mal
[00:24] <brightspark> dany, this is a best guess, if you'd rather wait for Si2100 to get back that's fine.  I think you need to open a terminal, "cd compat-wireless-3.2-rc1-1", "sudo make install"
[00:25] <brightspark> then reboot
[00:26] <dany> brightspark, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771746/
[00:26] <dany> brightspark, what next
[00:27] <brightspark> dany, you should reboot and check if it works.  I need to go in a minute, good luck
[00:28] <dany> brightspark, ok just tell me how to check it when reboot
[00:28] <brightspark> dany, click the wireless icon and see if you can see your router.
[00:29] <brightspark> dany, or whatever wireless device you were trying to find in the first place
[00:31] <slakcphil> Relondo, ahh ok, yeah you can't even get a tty4 console?
[00:31] <zulutango> Greetings...how can I install the sun java on ubuntu 11.04? I've searched google but didn't found anything.
[00:32] <zulutango> I downloaded the self extracting file from the official website and I have a bin file...did run it in the terminal but what now?:)
[00:32] <Tech-1> its not in the repositories ?
[00:33] <SwedeMike> zulutango: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[00:33] <Resistance> Tech-1:  no, Java isnt in the repositories since 11.10
[00:33] <Resistance> Tech-1:  because Oracle changed the license
[00:33] <Tech-1> huh
[00:33] <Resistance> oh nevermind
[00:33] <Tech-1> i c
[00:33] <ap> iceroot, the info on Android server is erratic and I'm thinking there might be more chance of getting in there if I install an Ubuntu app and connect using the usb
[00:33] <pingveno> Is there a way to automate changing something in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ during a dist-upgrade?
[00:34] <sumosu> hm i could swear i had an auto update on sun java today... maybe its in another repo?
[00:34] <pingveno> Like, changing maverick => natty
[00:34] <micahf> hey, i'm having trouble with grub on my macbook, it says: "Missing OS"
[00:35] <sumosu> o wait i'm on 11.04
[00:35] <micahf> i've tried reinstalling it and cannot get it to work
[00:37] <dany> hi guys , i have teamviewer installed and hope someone help me to connect my wireless i can provide u my teaviewer id and pass to access
[00:39] <Resistance> dany:  usually people dont use teamviewer here
[00:39] <Resistance> dany:  what exactly is your issue?
[00:39] <WanderingEnder> When I apt-get installed the package linux-igd in 10.04 LTS, I am missing files that packages.ubuntu.com show as being in the file list.
[00:39] <WanderingEnder> What apt- command will reinstall the package?
[00:40] <Resistance> WanderingEnder:  apt-get install --reinstall ?
[00:40] <WanderingEnder> That would work, yes. I have never had apt fail befure. :)
[00:40] <raven> because of a mistake i deleted my /var folder and apt and dpkg now return errors because of /var/cache/.... - how to repair that?
[00:40] <dany> Resistance, Lot of ppl tried to help but no result , my ubuntu 10.04 can't connect to wireless
[00:40] <Resistance> dany:  define "can't connect"
[00:41] <WanderingEnder> dany: What specific error message do you get? What did you do, what did you expect to happen, what actually happened?
[00:42] <Resistance> ^
[00:42] <dany> WanderingEnder, I even have no idea if my driver is installed , but it's working fine with windows 7
[00:42] <Resistance> dany:  pastebin the output of lspci | grep network
[00:42] <Resistance> !pastebin > dany
[00:43] <raven> because of a mistake i deleted my /var folder and apt and dpkg now return errors because of /var/cache/.... - how to repair that?
[00:44] <Resistance> !repeat | raven
[00:44] <MahaVishnu> dany$ did you ever check the drivers gui app like we said ?
[00:46] <dany> AhaVishnu, i forgot , but i have tar the file and installed it
[00:46] <dany> AhaVishnu, what next
[00:46] <MahaVishnu> you installed a driver from source?
[00:48] <dany> MahaVishnu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771758/
[00:49] <MahaVishnu>   well did you install that or something?
[00:50] <abc> mother fucker
[00:50] <abc> mother fucker
[00:50] <abc> mother fucker
[00:50] <FloodBot1> abc: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:50] <[snake]> I've been looking all over for how to boot into tty1 without automatically gdm-ing but no luck. May someone assist me? (Ubuntu 10.04 x86_64 GNOME-2.30.2)
[00:51] <dany> MahaVishnu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771758/
[00:51] <Relondo> slakcphil, Sorry, I was AFK.
[00:52] <dany> MahaVishnu, i installed that but still not working
[00:52] <MahaVishnu> how did you install it?? make and configure ?
[00:52] <dany> MahaVishnu, i can give you my id and pass for my teamviewer and get access to my system
[00:52] <[snake]> or at least a way to temporarily stop x11/gdm after I boot up. any suggestions?
[00:52] <micahf> what does "Missing OS" mean on grub?
[00:53] <micahf> i can boot with supergrubdisk
[00:53] <MahaVishnu> dany$ I don't think it's a good idea to give people connection that you don't know..
[00:53] <micahf> but my actual partition isn't booting!
[00:53] <Awhman> Ok so I need some help =/ I want bouncy icons like on mac and I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock guide but my ubuntu is newer then the versions listed...
[00:53] <Awhman> will it still work?
[00:53] <[snake]> micahf, perhaps it doesn't have the adequate information for booting into your actual partition.
[00:53] <MahaVishnu> dany$ can you just tell me what commands you used to install that driver? also how did you determine that was the correct driver
[00:54] <micahf> er, i should clarify, supergrubdisk finds my grub configuration and lets me boot, but going through the mbr doesn't get me to the grub menu
[00:54] <micahf> when i boot up without supergrubdisk, i just get "Missing OS\n Cannot boot..."
[00:54] <micahf> it seems more like an EFI or MBR issue
[00:54] <[snake]> MahaVishnu, teamviewer is completely safe for viewing a teamate's (or technical support)'s computer.
[00:55] <[snake]> boot into a live cd... chroot (mount proc etc) then update-grub
[00:55] <amaroks> what ubuntu rename httpd binary to?
[00:55] <Relondo> So does anyone know how to make my ubuntu-incompatible ATI graphics card compatible?
[00:56] <Tech-1> Relondo:  does hardware drivers not work ?
[00:56] <[snake]> Relondo, does it come up with anything in jockey-gtk?
[00:56] <micahf> [snake] is that any different from doing update-grub from the partition i want to boot? cause i can boot to it, i just have to use supergrubdisk
[00:56] <Relondo> [snake], jockey-gtk?
[00:56] <dany> MahaVishnu, i did this http://paste.ubuntu.com/771764/
[00:57] <[snake]> micahf, yes, obviously update-grub on the partition that you'd like to update-grub on.
[00:57] <IHateHavingToReg> so if i send an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it shows up in the Maildir but I can't use "mail" to access it or anything. Does anyone know why this is happening? I'm using ... Postfix, I think it's called
[00:57] <Relondo> Tech-1, All I know is that when I boot to Ubuntu, there is no video, just sound. I was told by fizyplankton that it's an incompatible graphics card.
[00:57] <[snake]> Relondo, the Restricted Drivers in System>administration
[00:57] <MahaVishnu> dany$ you need to do ./configure first and let the part finish then do make then do make install. you might need sudo for some of these.
[00:57] <Tech-1> did you try sudo service gdm start ?
[00:57] <Tech-1> then startx
[00:58] <Relondo> I'm being bombarded with many things that I do not know about. I am very new to all of this Ubuntu stuff.
[00:58] <[snake]> Tech-1, no, I want to stop it. :P stop x11, and gdm etc (anything gui) so that I can be in tty1 for a time.
[00:58] <romrioblackboy> vai
[00:58] <Relondo> So, I'm sorry if I take some extra explaining.
[00:58] <Tech-1> Relondo:  or, hold the shift key at boot, wait for grub menu then boot to safe graphics mode
[00:58] <Relondo> [snake] I still don't know what your talking about.
[00:59] <romrioblackboy> im brasil
[00:59] <Relondo> Tech-1, I tried that. Nothing happened.
[00:59] <[snake]> Relondo, what version are you on?
[00:59] <Gentoo64> [snake]: i think you can add noX or text to the kernel line, but why do you wana be in a console?
[00:59] <Relondo> [snake], 11.10
[00:59] <MahaVishnu> [snake]$ you want to kill x completely ?
[00:59] <[snake]> Relondo, I cannot help you, I am inexperienced with that version.
[00:59] <amaroks> anyone please??
[00:59] <dany> MahaVishnu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771766/
[01:00] <Relondo> [snake], I was told the problem was mostly universal.
[01:00] <MahaVishnu> dany$ I don't speak german
[01:00] <romrioblackboy> im no inglis
[01:00] <[snake]> MahaVishnu, yeah I want to kill x (until the time that I reboot)
[01:00] <MahaVishnu> dany$ make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.34-020634-generic/build: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type. Arrêt.    in english ?
[01:00] <Relondo> romrioblackboy, No hablas ingles?
[01:01] <MahaVishnu> [snake]$ sudo service lightdm stop
[01:01] <dany> MahaVishnu, It's french , menas there is no file or folder with this type
[01:01] <romrioblackboy> conect remote now
[01:02] <romrioblackboy> pleas
[01:02] <MahaVishnu> !headers | dany
[01:02] <Relondo> Tech-1 So do you have any ideas?
[01:03] <Relondo> Tech-1, So do you have any ideas?
[01:03] <[snake]> MahaVishnu, unrecognised service... should I replace that with gdm ;-)
[01:03] <MahaVishnu> [snake] yea if thats what  you are using
[01:03] <dany> MahaVishnu, how to change language to english
[01:03] <MahaVishnu> dany$ I am not sure as I do not use gnome/unity
[01:04] <MahaVishnu> system prefs ?
[01:04] <Relondo> Isn't gnome built into Ubuntu?
[01:04] <MahaVishnu> no
[01:04] <Tech-1> Relondo:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup    then   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:04] <MahaVishnu> its a desktop manager
[01:04] <Relondo> Tech-1, Put that into the command line?
[01:04] <Relondo> MahaVishnu, Ah. Thanks.
[01:05] <Tech-1> Relondo:  when you first boot, try ctrl+alt+f1
[01:05] <Tech-1> from there you should be able to do that
[01:05] <Relondo> Tech-1, I'm there. Trying it now.
[01:05] <Tech-1> ok
[01:06] <dany> MahaVishnu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/771768/
[01:07] <Relondo> Tech-1, It says : cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf ': No such file or directory
[01:07] <MahaVishnu> dany$ that is an old kernel what ub untu version you on>
[01:08] <Tech-1> then do the second and reboot
[01:08] <dany> MahaVishnu, ubuntu 10.04
[01:08] <MahaVishnu> dany do uname -r
[01:09] <Tech-1> Relondo:  some times xserver is picky, and you may have to do it a couple times
[01:09] <Tech-1> just be patient
[01:09] <dany> MahaVishnu, 2.6.34-020634-generic
[01:09] <Relondo> It responded with "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$" four times.
[01:09] <Relondo> Is that normal?
[01:10] <tiago_> ola
[01:10] <MahaVishnu> dany$ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile see that and install everything for 10.04
[01:10] <dany> MahaVishnu, okay
[01:10] <Tech-1> Relondo:  now boot and go to recovery mode and see if you can get safe graphics
[01:11] <Arizona_Bay> hey guys what is the best messenger to receive and send custom emoticons?
[01:12] <Relondo> Tech-1, How do I get to recovery mode?
[01:12] <Arizona_Bay> i should include from different messenger clients
[01:12] <Tech-1> Relondo:  at reboot, hold the shift key and go to recovery
[01:12] <Tech-1> when grub menu shows up
[01:13] <Relondo> I held shift, and the options are: Try Ubuntu without installing, Install Ubuntu, Check disc for defects, Test memory, Boot from first hard disk
[01:13] <Relondo> And then there are F1-6 options.
[01:13] <aDboy> how do I get access to an external hard drive's files in 11.10 gui?
[01:13] <Tech-1> do you have the disc in ?
[01:13] <aDboy> I tried chmod to no avail
[01:13] <Relondo> Yep.
[01:13] <Tech-1> lol, take it out
[01:14] <Relondo> And restart again?
[01:14] <tiago_> OLA
[01:14] <Tech-1> and boot to recovery like i said befoe
[01:14] <tiago_> Someone can help me?
[01:14] <Tech-1> before
[01:14] <seidos> aDboy: did you try chown?
[01:14] <Resistance> aDboy:  did you mount the external drive?
[01:14] <tiago_> i need translate MAN PAGE TO PORTUGUESE BRAZIL
[01:15] <tiago_> ALGUEM PODE ME AJUDAR
[01:15] <Relondo> So I need to restart, and when it says "F11 to start recovery" do that
[01:15] <aDboy> seidos: yes, unsucessefully
[01:15] <tiago_> SOMEONE CAN HELP ME???
[01:15] <Relondo> ?
[01:15] <MahaVishnu> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.34-020634-generic   does that work for you?
[01:15] <Resistance> !caps | tiago_
[01:15] <aDboy> Resistance: yes, I can see the files in the terminal
[01:15] <MahaVishnu> dany ^^
[01:15] <tiago_> hi
[01:15] <Tech-1> Relondo:  do as i said before, hold the shift, when grub shows up go to recovery
[01:15] <aDboy> Resistance: it's just that I would like to drag an old json file into ff
[01:16] <sam22> hail ! people of this channel
[01:16] <sam22> hail british people !!
[01:16] <sam22> o/
[01:16] <Relondo> But holding shift does nothing unless Ubuntu disk is in.
[01:16] <Resistance> !privmsg | tiago_
[01:16] <Resistance> WTH
[01:16] <Arizona_Bay> hey guys what is the best messenger to receive and send custom emoticons? I should include from different messenger clients
[01:16] <Resistance> !pm | tiago_
[01:16] <Tech-1> huh, maybe the install is borked then
[01:16] <dany> MahaVishnu, it seems as i'm not going to get any result , anyway thanks a lot for your time
[01:16] <Relondo> Does it matter which shift?
[01:17] <Tech-1> Relondo:  try a normal boot, see what happens
[01:17] <tiago_> Resistance
[01:17] <tiago_> you can help me?
[01:17] <Resistance> no i cant
[01:17] <Resistance> so dont ask me for help, tiago_
[01:17] <Relondo> A normal boot goes to windows.
[01:17] <tiago_> thx
[01:17] <Resistance> i'm not a translator
[01:17] <Tech-1> Relondo:  so grub is missing ?
[01:17] <Relondo> Yes.
[01:18] <Relondo> I think I might have a fix for that, though. Hold on a few minutes.
[01:18] <Tech-1> Relondo:  try this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajs9rO5upZA
[01:18] <aDboy> from the terminal I can see the file but I can only open it up via firefox
[01:18] <Relondo> Already got it open :)
[01:18] <Tech-1> ok
[01:18] <Tech-1> put grub back in and do a normal boot
[01:19] <Relondo> Sadly, this particular laptop is older (The main reason I want Ubuntu on it), and cannot boot from USB. So I have to boot from CD, which is horrendously slow.
[01:19] <tiago_> i install the translat .... but her not be.... NORMAL
[01:19] <Tech-1> Relondo:  how much ram do you have
[01:20] <Relondo> Well, I'm trying to install it on two laptops, but the one we're talking about right now has half a gig.
[01:20] <aDboy> seidos: I am experiencing difficulties because I am running 11.10 off a usb stick
[01:20] <Tech-1> thats ok, but still alittle slow
[01:20] <skilz> Relondo: Have you checked if there is a bios update to enable boot from USB?
[01:20] <aDboy> seidos: so I am not sure the name and path I shoudl take
[01:21] <Relondo> skilz, I have not.
[01:21] <aDboy> is there a way to have root access via gnome?
[01:21] <Tech-1> Relondo:  what kind is it
[01:21] <Relondo> It's a Gateway.
[01:21] <Tech-1> 1.8 g ?
[01:21] <Relondo> What now?
[01:21] <airtonix> i need a centralised music server for the office that lets co-workers vote on the next song to play. song should be sourced from streaming radio
[01:21] <Tech-1> processor
[01:21] <skilz> aDboy: What do you mean root access via gnome?
[01:21] <Relondo> I think it's like 1.7
[01:21] <Tech-1> i c
[01:22] <Relondo> Single core. Good lord, it's slow.
[01:22] <Tech-1> so your working with 266 speed ram
[01:22] <Relondo> Lol, yeah.
[01:22] <Relondo> I think?
[01:22] <Tech-1> i c
[01:22] <skilz> Relondo: Look on the Gateway site for a firmware/bios update for your particular model laptop.
[01:22] <needhelp1> how can i add a new page to the ubuntu wiki?
[01:22] <sam22> 266Mhz RAM ?
[01:22] <sam22> very fast
[01:22] <Tech-1> n
[01:23] <aDboy> skilz: in the terminal I did sudo passwd root.  so I got access to my files. but when I go through the gui- sorry new to the new ubuntu gui- I am told I don't have permission
[01:23] <Relondo> I will, if I don't get it fixed from this CD boot.
[01:23] <skilz> I'm only using an old IBM Thinkpad G40, 1GB Ram, 2.40Ghz Pentium 4, 32GB HDD.
[01:23] <Resistance> needhelp1:  you need to login to the ubuntu single sign on for the wiki first, then navigate to the page you think needs creating, and then there's a create link on it
[01:23] <Resistance> s/on it/there/
[01:23] <Resistance> if i remember correctly at least
[01:23] <skilz> aDboy: root password is auto scrambled for security.
[01:23] <needhelp1> Resistance, im signed in, searching for the page i want to create, its not offering a link to create it though
[01:23] <needhelp1> Resistance, ill try agin
[01:23] <Tech-1> thats pretty good ski_
[01:24] <Tech-1> skilz:
[01:24] <tiago_> Need help with install translate MAN PAGE for ubuntu
[01:24] <aDboy> skilz: I set the root password though
[01:24] <Resistance> needhelp1:  can i /query you?
[01:24] <aDboy> I can view the files in terminal, just not in the gui
[01:24] <tiago_> need help with install translate MAN PAGE for ubuntu
[01:24] <Relondo> Well, my other laptop (the one with an incompatible  graphics card) is a decent Toshiba L775D. Quad core AMD 2.4GHZ, Radeon 6520M Graphics, 4GB RAM.
[01:24] <skilz> Tech-1: http://ompldr.org/vYnJkeg/scrot.png <--- Thats my laptop screen
[01:24] <Resistance> !repeat | tiago_
[01:24] <needhelp1> Resistance, what do you  mean?
[01:24]  * Tech-1 looks
[01:24] <Resistance> needhelp1:  /query = /pm = /msg = privmsg
[01:25] <needhelp1> Resistance, yes
[01:25] <tiago_> I look for all
[01:25] <tiago_> but someone have repost for my question
[01:25] <skilz> Only 1024x768 screen :/
[01:25] <tiago_> tutorial halp explain
[01:25] <tiago_> half***
[01:25] <Tech-1> Yeah skilz  i just tried slack ouppy 5.3 looks good
[01:25] <skilz> aDboy: You shouldn't why did you do that? What exactly are you trying to do?
[01:25] <Tech-1> puppy
[01:26] <Relondo> Tech-1, what are your specs?
[01:26] <tiago_> if i find a solution don't be here... read your "pitico"
[01:26] <skilz> Tech-1: like my Conky and fluxbox theme?
[01:26] <Tech-1> Yeah
[01:26] <aDboy> skilz: I am trying to view an old json file I have on an external hd on firefox
[01:26] <tiago_> my english is very bad, i know
[01:27] <skilz> aDboy: What's a json file?
[01:27] <aDboy> skilz: but when I click on the folder, it says I don't have permission to view the files
[01:27] <aDboy> skilz: the file where old ff bookmark backups are stored
[01:27] <skilz> aDboy: sudo chmod 644 filenamre
[01:27] <escott> aDboy, this has nothing to do with being root or not. most likely the external hard drive is fat32. unmount it, and as your normal user mount it with udisks mount /dev/whatever
[01:27] <nac4l> Is there a way to see a package's version info without reinstalling/installing it?
[01:28] <trism> nac4l: apt-cache policy package_name
[01:28] <aDboy> skilz: thank you. I will try that
[01:28] <escott> aDboy, udisks --mount /dev/whatever
[01:28] <skilz> nac4l: package --version
[01:28] <Tech-1> skilz:  http://imagebin.org/188773
[01:28] <aDboy> escott: thanks
[01:28] <OldOneEye> how do i install kde instead of gnome on ubuntu desktop
[01:28] <tiago_> ALguem pode me ajudar? -- someone can help me?
[01:28] <skilz> OldOneEye: sudo apt-get install kde
[01:29] <IHateHavingToReg> so if i send an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it shows up in the Maildir but I can't use "mail" to access it or anything. Does anyone know why this is happening? I'm using ... Postfix, I think it's called
[01:29] <skilz> OldOneEye: Then logout and select it from GDM/Lightdm.
[01:29] <aDboy> escott: it's an ubuntu partition though
[01:29] <escott> aDboy, then the userid is different. if you want that folder to be available to your user (and dont need it for some other system) you can sudo chown -R username:username the folder
[01:30] <OldOneEye> i wanna uninstall gnome and just have kde
[01:30] <diverdude> How do i get a list of all files installed by a specific package?
[01:30] <aDboy> escott: really appreciate it.
[01:31] <escott> OldOneEye, unless you are pressed for disk space there isn't much reason to uninstall anything, just install kubuntu-desktop
[01:31] <bubbles|> i followed this guide to set up auth-file based ssh, but it fails on ssh-copy-id with "no identities found", what am i doing wrong? or does the tutorial have an error? http://code.google.com/p/mysql-cacti-templates/wiki/SSHBasedTemplates
[01:31] <trism> diverdude: dpkg -L package_name
[01:31] <MahaVishnu> diverdude$ sudo dpkg -L package
[01:31] <skilz> Tech-1: Awesome wallpaper, star going into blackhole?
[01:31] <Boom_Farmer> How do I initialize a new hard drive? It's a 250 GB WD3500JB plugged in using a SATA->USB cable and appearing in dmesg at /dev/sdc
[01:31] <Tech-1> Yeah
[01:31] <skilz> Where you get it from?
[01:32] <tiago_> BOOM_FARMER
[01:32] <escott> aDboy, having a root password is discouraged. you can lock the root account with passwd -l root, and then use sudo to get root access when you need it
[01:32] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ make a dir. make sure you own the dir. and then mount it to the dir
[01:32] <Tech-1> google space wallpaper
[01:32] <tiago_> leave...
[01:32] <diverdude> strange...bcuz when i write sudo dpkg -L apache2 it only gives me folders in /usr
[01:32] <diverdude> but i know there are also files in /etc
[01:33] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: by "initialize" I mean "create a partition table and partitions". The drive is fresh-from-the-factory, bare-as-a-baby's-behind blank.
[01:33] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ for a gui use gparted
[01:33] <trism> diverdude: apache2 has several packages, dpkg -l 'apache2*'
[01:33] <ahmed> fff
[01:33] <Boom_Farmer> Gparted's not seeing it, since it isn't mounted. And it can't be mounted because it doesn't have a filesystem, if I understand what's going on correctly.
[01:34] <bubbles|> i followed this guide to set up auth-file based ssh, but it fails on ssh-copy-id with "no identities found", what am i doing wrong? or does the tutorial have an error? http://code.google.com/p/mysql-cacti-templates/wiki/SSHBasedTemplates
[01:35] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: Or, hmm. Is it possible to mount a disk that has no filesystem?
[01:35] <wookienz> hi, i am looking for a command that will traverse a directory structure and look in php files for a particualr search term. Any ideas?
[01:36] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ you dont want to use gparted on a mounted disk. and you cannot mount a disk with no file system. casue you really mount the file system..
[01:36] <jrib> bubbles|: I have to go but I suggest you pastebin what *you* did not link to the tutorial :)
[01:37] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ where is it showing up as /dev/sdc ?
[01:37] <IHateHavingToReg> so if i send an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it shows up in the Maildir but I can't use "mail" to access it or anything. Does anyone know why this is happening? I'm using ... Postfix, I think it's called
[01:37] <Boom_Farmer> wookienz: Have you tried running   grep "particularsearchterm"   in the directory that you want to search?
[01:37] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: In dmesg.
[01:38] <asava> wookienz, look into ack-grep
[01:38] <Relondo> Tech-1, How do I get to the terminal from the GUI?
[01:38] <asava> perl script that does just that
[01:38] <Tech-1> Relondo:  ctrl+alt+f1
[01:38] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/771774/
[01:38] <Relondo> Thanks
[01:38] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ does fdisk see it ?
[01:39] <Pici> wookienz: If theres only php files in that path then: grep -R "words" /path/ , if there are other files and you dont want to look in them: find /path/ -iname "*.php" -exec grep -H "words" {} \;
[01:39] <wookienz> Pici: thanks.
[01:40] <skilz> Tech-1: Can you link me to it? I can't find it.
[01:40] <Tech-1> lemme look
[01:40] <escott> bubbles|, i would not follow that tutorial. you should not be granting anyone access to your id_rsa much less www-data
[01:40] <aDboy> escott: no dice.  I tried "sudo chown -R ubuntu:ubuntu /.mozilla"
[01:40] <bubbles|> it's not my id_rsa, it's a specially generated one for that user
[01:41] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: Short answer: No. Storytime: I had a drive mounted at /dev/sdb . I ran `sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb' and could see the drive. I unmounted /dev/sdb . Re-ran `sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb/' and cfdisk said it couldn't access the drive. In the same fashion, when I run `sudo cfdisk /dev/sdc', cfdisk tells me that it cannot see the drive.
[01:41] <bubbles|> and it's just to interface different machines that are all mine
[01:41] <aDboy> escott: and it tells me no such directory even though I can "cd .mozilla"
[01:41] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ tried different usb ports ?
[01:41] <maum> how to terminate the terminal by which command?
[01:41] <optimusm> if i dual boot ubuntu and vista and my vista goes corrupted and i have ubuntu on a seperate partition will it be over writtene?
[01:42] <optimusm> over written if i reinstall vista
[01:42] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ story time: I have a 1tb sata hd that was in a usb enclosure box. the usb part went bad but I was able to hook the drive up directly via sata and it worked fine...
[01:42] <escott> aDboy, your external drive will be mounted (attached to the filesystem) somewhere in /media so "cd /media; ls" and then find that and cd into that
[01:42] <Boom_Farmer> I got no SATA ports on this box. It's a laptop.
[01:43] <aDboy> escott: right.  thank you.
[01:43] <escott> bubbles|, ok. i was confused by the root www-data ownership of the file. thought it was /root/.ssh/id_rsa
[01:44] <urlin2u> Boom_Farmer, is this the WD that has the built in flash?
[01:44] <Tech-1> skilz:  its in here some where:  http://www.spacewallpapers.net/wallpapers/
[01:44]  * Boom_Farmer tries a different port, not showing up in dmesg yet, will wait and try in a bit.
[01:44] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ it looks like its working but if you are not seeing it in any apps then I am not sure besides it could be an sata over usb bug or something. and you are sure the hd is good ?
[01:44] <Boom_Farmer> urlin2u: Good heavens no. This is just a plain WD HDD.
[01:44] <bubbles|> i guess root is needed just to create the file .. www-data will be using it later on
[01:44] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: I am neither sure nor unsure that the HDD is goof.
[01:44] <Boom_Farmer> s/goof/good/
[01:44] <Tech-1> skilz:  http://www.spacewallpapers.net/wallpapers/displayimage.php?album=10&pos=22
[01:45] <Tech-1> im done
[01:45] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ have a good one you can plug in the same setup to confirm the setup works ?
[01:45] <bubbles|> copying the file myself works fine (the login works too) but doing it using ssh-copy-id fails
[01:45] <escott> bubbles|, I would expect ssh to complain about that. it just doesn't look right. if its not working see if that is the cause by running ssh in verbose mode "-v" switch can be repeated
[01:45] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ dmesg | grep ATA no errors
[01:45] <MahaVishnu> ?
[01:46] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: I do not have an initialized disk of the same model, but I might have another blank disk of the same model laying about.
[01:46] <diverdude> When i run sudo apache2 -M i get: apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}. What is this problem and how do i fix it?
[01:46] <Boom_Farmer> No errors when I grep dmesg
[01:46] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ a blank disk should show up in fdisk or gparted.
[01:47] <urlin2u> optimusm, convoluted question, something is only overwritten if you let it.
[01:47] <bubbles|> # ssh-copy-id -vvv -p 954 -i /etc/cacti/id_rsa.pub cacti@localhost
[01:47] <bubbles|> /usr/bin/ssh-copy-id: ERROR: No identities found
[01:47] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ if you can't get the pc to show any disk over the usb wire then maybe it is the problem somehow just trying to rule things out
[01:48] <urlin2u> Boom_Farmer, hopefully it is not one of the few that won't run in linux manufactured by them.
[01:48] <MahaVishnu> that would suck. urlin2u is there a list of those models so he can see?
[01:48] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: I know. If I had a Live CD handy I'd pop the disk in my SATA tower and try formatting it directly, but I don't.
[01:48] <Boom_Farmer> Let me go grab the other disk.
[01:48] <escott> bubbles|, i think you need to tell ssh-copy-id to use the id_rsa not the public key. it knows to only copy the public key, but it wants to verify you have a valid keypair first
[01:49] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ make a usb disk ? got a usb thumb drive?
[01:49] <bubbles|> oh, ok
[01:49] <Boom_Farmer> The tower's too old to boot from USB.
[01:49] <aDboy> escott: thank you. it worked.
[01:50] <bubbles|> still the same
[01:50] <bubbles|> is there a chance that a vital step is missing in the tutorial?
[01:51] <urlin2u> MahaVishnu, I didn't see any link with that model actually only one google hit with the model given and ubuntu. I only know tha there are a few from some time on the ubuntu forums, the list of them I don't know.
[01:52] <MahaVishnu> ok.
[01:52] <Relondo> Tech-1, I am having problems installing the grub.
[01:53] <Tech-1> !grub
[01:53] <escott> bubbles|, does the key exist in /etc/cacti? i dont think there is anything wrong, but the way it is doing things is strange to say the least
[01:54] <Boom_Farmer> O.o
[01:54] <bubbles|> # ls /etc/cacti/
[01:54] <bubbles|> apache.conf  debian.php  id_pub  id_pub.pub  id_rsa  id_rsa.pub
[01:54] <Boom_Farmer> Okay, tried with second disk of same model, which shows up fine in cfdisk now.
[01:54] <bubbles|> permissions are 600/644
[01:54] <Relondo> Tech-1, I'm all the way past mounting drives and such, everything has worked so far, but when I type "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" it says "sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu" and then "sudo: grub: command not found"
[01:55] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ doa disk then?
[01:55] <Boom_Farmer> Not sure.
[01:55] <MahaVishnu> can you partition that disk in gparted ?
[01:55] <bubbles|> escott if that tutorial is strange, can you point me to a better one?
[01:56] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: The second disk, yes. Just created partition table and will be shortly partitioning it as FAT32, in the fine tradition of "it works with the mac"
[01:56] <escott> bubbles|, i just don't get the weird permissions on the file. why not make it www-data:www-data?
[01:56] <escott> bubbles|, but im not familiar with this cacti thing so
[01:56] <Tech-1> Relondo:  im not a hotshot w/grub and windows together, maybe some one here is.
[01:56] <Relondo> Anyone here a Windows+grub hotshot?
[01:57] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ FAT32? you are using these for mac? fat32 doesnt allow files over 4gb if you didn't know.
[01:57] <bubbles|> i guess he didn't bother with that - it's just necessary for www-data to read it, so it was just "chown www-data file" .. no need to fully type "chown www-data:www-data file" .. or so i guess
[01:57] <bubbles|> cacti is some sort of service monitoring
[01:58] <Boom_Farmer> MahaVishnu: Macs by default won't write to NTFS drives, and there won't be any files >4GB on this disk.
[01:59] <Boom_Farmer> And it also has to work with Win XP and 7, so HFS+ won't work either.
[01:59] <urlin2u> Relondo, what's going in?
[01:59] <robin0800> Relondo: are you on a live cd?
[01:59] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ ic
[01:59] <Relondo> robin0800m Yes
[01:59] <Boom_Farmer> Almost made the whole thing Linux-swap. Heheh
[01:59] <Relondo> urlin2u, I'm trying to reinstall my grub.
[02:00] <urlin2u> Relondo, have you looked at thr grub2 wiki?
[02:00] <MahaVishnu> Boom_Farmer$ well glad its working. if one disk works but the other doesn't I'd wonder if it was dead. idk what else could be wrong if they are exactly the same or even different really for that matter.
[02:00] <Relondo> I was looking at this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[02:01] <urlin2u> Relondo, so can you boot either OS or any now?
[02:02] <MrTopless> is -type d a folder?
[02:02] <Relondo> urlin2u: I can boot to Windows XP, and I can boot the Ubuntu LiveCD.
[02:02] <Relondo> urlin2u: I have Ubuntu installed, but can't get to it, because I have no grub.
[02:02] <urlin2u> Relondo, and you have XP and Ubuntu only? What release of Ubuntu?
[02:02] <Relondo> urlin2u: Newest-11.10
[02:03] <MahaVishnu> Relondo$ did you install xp or ubuntu first ?
[02:03] <Relondo> MahaVishnu: XP.
[02:03] <urlin2u> Relondo, you haver the 11.10 live cd?
[02:03] <urlin2u> have
[02:03] <Relondo> urlin2u: Yes.
[02:03] <Relondo> urlin2u: I'm booted to it right now, in the terminal.
[02:03] <MahaVishnu> Relondo$ are they both installed on /dev/sda ?
[02:04] <urlin2u> Relondo, this is the grub 2 link from the page your using try the first method with the live cd there are 3 methods in a row here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[02:04] <maum> I see some error while update : http://paste.pound-python.org/show/15534/
[02:04] <Relondo> MahaVishnu: Yes, I believe so.
[02:05] <Relondo> MahaVishnu: I just checked, their both installed to /dev/sdaX
[02:06] <escott> Relondo, you dont install grub to a partition number, but to /dev/sda
[02:06] <urlin2u> Relondo, there is a bootscript we use to lokk ay what is where if thois link does not work run it and pastebin the results.txt  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[02:06] <Relondo> Escott: This I know.
[02:06] <MahaVishnu> Relondo$ he was answering about the drive his os's were on
[02:06] <urlin2u> look at*
[02:07] <MahaVishnu> err escott
[02:07] <tjiggi_fo> maum, it's telling you it can't finf the web pages for those 2 ppa's. either wait for the ppa managers to fix their sites or temporarilly disable their repo's in update settings
[02:07] <MahaVishnu> Relondo$ yea go follow that guide and use /dev/sda for the drive
[02:07] <tjiggi_fo> *find
[02:07] <maum> tjiggi_fo: what should I do?
[02:08] <Relondo> MahaVishnu: I was using this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajs9rO5upZA&feature=related
[02:08] <tjiggi_fo> maum, I just told you what to do :(
[02:08] <MahaVishnu> Relondo$ i'd use the link urlin2u gave you
[02:09] <maum> tjiggi_fo: should I wait to fix their sites? or disable repo in setting?
[02:09] <tjiggi_fo> maum, ignoring the errors will NOT do your system any harm in the short term
[02:09] <tjiggi_fo> maum, your choice
[02:10] <diverdude> Where is the file mod_info.so located ?
[02:10] <maum> tjiggi_fo: ok, I will just ignore it. by the way, how can I disable their repo? where can I find the settings window?
[02:10] <MahaVishnu> diverdude$ locate mod_info.so
[02:11] <trism> diverdude: dpkg -S mod_info.so; (if it is installed), or apt-file search mod_info.so; if it isn't (but you would need to install and set up apt-file)
[02:11] <maum> tjiggi_fo: I found it. the software source.
[02:11] <maum> tjiggi_fo: thanks
[02:11] <diverdude> locate worked like a charm
[02:11] <diverdude> magic command
[02:12] <Relondo> urlin2u: I got a menu after using "sudo-grub install --root-directory=/mnt/dev/sda".
[02:12] <urlin2u> Relondo, could you explain when and where of the menu.
[02:13] <Relondo> urlin2u: It says "Install_device not specified.
[02:13] <Relondo> uUsage: grub-install [OPTION] install_device
[02:13] <Relondo> Install GRUB on your drive.
[02:13] <Resistance> you didnt happen to specify the actual device
[02:14] <Resistance> /dev/sda is the device
[02:14] <Relondo> I figured that much. How do I do that?
[02:14] <Resistance> iirc, at least
[02:14] <urlin2u> Relondo, lets just run the bootscript I posted, I don't really like trying to help in this point it is self explanatory.
[02:14] <Relondo> urlin2u: I was trying to avoid downloads. But ok.
[02:14] <saucefonda> Hi, quick question.
[02:15] <urlin2u> Relondo, the bootscipt is not a download other then a script to be run and posted.
[02:15] <saucefonda> Has anyone upgraded to 11.10 through Update Manager, yet when the upgrade completed, it was still at 11.04?
[02:15] <Relondo> Ah.
[02:17] <escott> Relondo, sudo grub install --root-directory=/path/to/mounted/partition/with/boot /dev/sda
[02:17] <escott> Relondo, so /mnt/dev/sda should be your mounted root partiton or if you have a boot partition that partition
[02:18] <Relondo> escott: I'll try that. Thanks.
[02:19] <saucefonda> Is there a way to update Ubuntu via shell?
[02:19] <Relondo> escott: I got "sudo: grub: command not found"
[02:19] <saucefonda> Nevermind, I figured it out.
[02:19] <escott> saucefonda, do-release-upgrade
[02:19] <saucefonda> Thank's escott.
[02:19] <saucefonda> *Thanks
[02:19] <escott> Relondo, grub-install
[02:19] <Relondo> escott: Oh. I had cleared out of that.
[02:20] <Boom_Farmer> Anyways, MahaVishnu++
[02:21] <Relondo> escott: I'm still getting that same error.
[02:22] <escott> Relondo, its --boot-directory not --root-directory (sorry i wasn't looking at the man page)
[02:22] <Relondo> escott: Helpful. Thanks.
[02:22] <saucefonda> So is Oneiric as bad as I've been reading about?
[02:23] <MahaVishnu> whats the easiest way to switch gui apps between two screens ?
[02:23] <Boom_Farmer> CLick and drag sideways, or right-click on titlebar and look for "move app to desktop #"
[02:23] <tensorpudding> saucefonda, it's a matter of opinion, and better discussed elsewhere, in #ubuntu-offtopic, unless it's related to support
[02:24] <escott> MahaVishnu, if you are using unity you can probably set up a shortcut in ccsm
[02:25] <Relondo> escott: Now I'm getting "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error : cannot find a device for /path/to/mounted/partition/with/boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).
[02:25] <MahaVishnu> escott$ using fluxbox. and been trying to use 'screen' but not getting the 'gui' portions of the apps to switch. details: on two different video cards one integrated running a monitor. one nvidia running a tv. I have in xorg setup screen 0 1 I want to be able to switch apps between those screens some how possible ?
[02:26] <escott> Relondo, you can't type what i send you in literally. what does ls /mnt/dev/sda/boot say?
[02:26] <escott> MahaVishnu, are you running two X servers?
[02:27] <MahaVishnu> escott$ I don't think so.... do you need to see my xorg.conf ?
[02:27] <sarthor> Hi, i am on kataya, 11, i did apt-get dist-upgrade, and about 200 MB of files downloaded and install. but lsb-release -a still shows kataya 11. while the kernal shows is  2.6.38-13-generic, how to upgrade?
[02:27] <escott> MahaVishnu, perhaps, but you can also check by running ps aux | grep /usr/bin/X
[02:28] <MahaVishnu> 12973 tty7     00:59:43 Xorg
[02:28] <MahaVishnu> yea just one
[02:28] <Relondo> escott: I assumed you wanted me to enter that in my terminal; it says "ls: cannot access /mnt/dev/sda/boot: not a directory"
[02:28] <soon-7> Hi
[02:28] <OerHeks> !mint | sarthor
[02:29] <escott> Relondo, ok... so maybe some explanation of what you are doing will help. grub has multiple "stages" one which is installed to the mbr on /dev/sda, but it also needs files in the "boot" directory of the root filesystem
[02:29] <Relondo> escott: mbr?
[02:29] <escott> Relondo, so what you need to do is: (a) install grub to /dev/sda but (b) tell it where to look for the files and configuration in your boot partition
[02:29] <Boom_Farmer> sarthor: Did you reboot first?
[02:30] <escott> Relondo, mbr = master boot record (beginning of the disk but outside a partition) hence the reason we call it /dev/sda and not /dev/sda1
[02:30] <Relondo> escott: Boot partition being where Ubuntu is installed?
[02:30] <sarthor> Boom_Farmer: yes. I did that, and linuxmint chan is not accessable right now.
[02:30] <escott> Relondo, so when you installed ubuntu you selected /dev/sda# as your "root" partiton the one with a mountpoint of "/"
[02:30] <escott> Relondo, and did you create a "/boot" partition
[02:31] <Relondo> escott: I installed Ubuntu through the GUI. It did all this automatically.
[02:31] <Relondo> escott: I think? I really have very little idea what I'm doing?
[02:31] <skilz> Hey I have a usb dongle, fat32 I think and it has locked files on it I can't fdisk it, how can I erase it?
[02:31] <escott> Relondo, ok then it did not create a "/boot" partition and we just need to find the root partition. open the disk utility and find the partition that is type "ext4"
[02:31] <skilz> Hey I have a usb dongle, fat32 I think and it has locked files on it I can't cparted delete it, how can I erase it?
[02:31] <IHateHavingToReg> so if i send an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it shows up in the Maildir but I can't use "mail" to access it or anything. Does anyone know why this is happening? I'm using ... Postfix, I think it's called
[02:32] <Relondo> escott: Go back to the GUI? Or use sudo fdisk-l?
[02:32] <escott> MahaVishnu, so any normal setup has the monitors adjacent to each other in some way and you should be able to click and drag, but im not familiar with how it all works if you have multiple video cards
[02:33] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, if you send it to your_username@your_computer's_name it should be accessible using mail
[02:33] <escott> Relondo, honestly it doesnt matter. whatever you are comfortable with. i just need to know what partition number ubuntu is installed to
[02:33] <MahaVishnu> escott$ ok. it shares a mouse/kb just now windows.
[02:33] <MahaVishnu> not*
[02:33] <Relondo> escott: Ubuntu is on /dev/sda5
[02:33] <Relondo> escott: The swap/Solaris is on /dev/sda6
[02:34] <escott> Relondo, then the following commands will attach the ubuntu system to your livecd so we can access it: "sudo mkdir -p /media/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/ubuntu;"
[02:35] <escott> Relondo, if successfult you should be able to "ls /media/ubuntu" and see all the folders that would be in the root partition including: "/boot /etc /bin /root /usr /var" etc
[02:35] <Relondo> escott: yes, I can see those.
[02:36] <escott> Relondo, now we are going to install grub to the mbr (thats the /dev/sda part) but tell it to look for the config and kernel in /media/ubuntu/boot (which is where your config files are)
[02:36] <Relondo> escott: Continue.
[02:36] <OldOneEye> wats the installation size on ubuntu installer windows
[02:37] <escott> Relondo, sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/media/ubuntu/boot /dev/sda
[02:37] <OldOneEye> it has 5gig upto 30gig
[02:38] <escott> MahaVishnu, you could check the output of xrandr
[02:38] <Relondo> escott: It says "Installation finished. No error reported."
[02:38] <IHateHavingToReg> brightspark right, and it's in the maildir but it doesn't show up as "new mail"
[02:38] <escott> Relondo, so that sounds good. your bios should start the mbr on /dev/sda, and that should look for your kernel in /boot on partition /dev/sda5
[02:38] <Relondo> escott: So now I can get to the grub?
[02:38] <Relondo> escott: How, again?
[02:39] <escott> Relondo, so im not sure what the question is at this point. you should try rebooting and see if grub starts
[02:40] <Tech-1> thanks escott
[02:40] <MahaVishnu> escott$ what about xrandr ?
[02:40] <escott> MahaVishnu, just type xrandr in the terminal
[02:40] <joren> so, I have two identical seeming ubuntu install in which I'm trying to start nrpe, one starts just fine, the other says "Error: NRPE daemon cannot be run as user/group root!" in syslog
[02:40] <escott> Tech-1, are you Relondo ? did it work?
[02:40] <joren> I'm a bit stuck
[02:40] <Tech-1> no, i was helping him earlier
[02:41] <joren> my config instructs nrpe to run as nagios user, and it does on the one that works
[02:41] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, what is the maildir?
[02:41] <IHateHavingToReg> sorry mbox i meant
[02:41] <Relondo> escott: I've got two computers here. I can talk to you through the whole process :)
[02:42] <escott> Relondo, excellent thats helpful
[02:42] <urlin2u> Relondo, if you get into ubuntu run the sudo update-grub
[02:42] <stuartlittle> hello
[02:42] <Relondo> escott: I got a screen titled "GNU GRUB version 1.99-12ubuntu5"
[02:43] <escott> Relondo, ok. does it list your ubuntu versions?
[02:44] <stuartlittle> it seems that I found a little bug on linux gdb/ptrace
[02:44] <Relondo> escott: After that it says "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB llilsts possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists posisble device or file completions." Below that it has a command line prefixed with "grub>"
[02:44] <stuartlittle> someone to help me?
[02:44] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, do you mean /var/mail/your_username?
[02:44] <Relondo> escott: It isn't the purple graphic grub.
[02:45] <nac4l> Anyone know how to setup simple mail to your free dyndns.org account?
[02:45] <nac4l> can u link local mail ot remote/internet?
[02:45] <IHateHavingToReg> brightspark: I was looking at root, you are right it is Maildir. /home/my_username/Maildir
[02:45] <diverdude> why is /etc/apache2/sites-available/default not listed in apaches mod_info ?
[02:46] <urlin2u> !ask | stuartlittle
[02:46] <urlin2u> !help
[02:46] <escott> Relondo, so that means it found the modules but not a grub.cfg file. this was a new install?
[02:46] <Relondo> escott: I installed Ubuntu yesterday.
[02:46] <joren> stuartlittle, state problem, maybe somone will help.
[02:46] <stuartlittle> when i use pushf instruction gdb set trap flag
[02:46] <joren> not saying that somone will be me
[02:46] <escott> Relondo, interesting, lets boot the livecd/liveusb again
[02:46] <urlin2u> escott, I laddy break out the bootscipt yee grub may be ah missing in the OS. :D
[02:46] <diverdude> any1?
[02:47] <stuartlittle> but, it seems that gdb doesn't clean trap flag when to return to my program
[02:47] <Relondo> escott: Don't know if this makes any difference, but I am using CD, not USB.
[02:47] <urlin2u> escott, or grub legacy and grub 2
[02:47] <Relondo> escott: Booted.
[02:48] <Relondo> escott: Well, booting.
[02:48] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, the mail itself is in that directory?  can you explain- all the mail is saved as a text file, you get a new text file for each message, what?
[02:48] <escott> Relondo, run the "sudo mkdir -p /media/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda5 /media/ubuntu" again
[02:48] <stuartlittle> please, check http://pastie.org/3024242
[02:49] <Relondo> escott: Still getting to the terminal.
[02:49] <escott> Relondo, thats fine
[02:49] <joren> stuartlittle, sorry man, I got nothin
[02:49] <IHateHavingToReg> brightspark: Yes, I believe that is the case, in the Maildir directory there is cur/, new/ and tmp, the new/ directory for example contains some files with a bunch of numbers, like<PHONE_NUMBER>.VbI... etc
[02:50] <stuartlittle> joren: before pushf execute eflags is 246 but after that push is executed eflags turned to 346
[02:50] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, that is nothing like my setup.  my mail all lives in /var/mail/my_username, which is a single text file.
[02:51] <stuartlittle> s/push/pushf
[02:51] <Fayne> hello
[02:51] <noob0013452> ...
[02:51] <IHateHavingToReg> brightspark can you briefly tell me how you set up your mailserver? i don't have a love for one way over the other, i just want the damn thing to work at this point :). thanks
[02:51] <Chuddy> @seek john christopher
[02:51] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, you can try invoking mail with the option "-f /home/your_username/Maildir/whatever"
[02:51] <stuartlittle> 'theorically', pushf doesn't affect any flags
[02:52] <joren> stuartlittle, I'm probably not the person to talk to about it.  I just wanted to explain that you should explain your problem  if you want help ;)  Sounds like it could be a bug though
[02:52] <IHateHavingToReg> mail: /home/jason/Maildir/new: Is a directory
[02:52] <IHateHavingToReg> what's that mean
[02:53] <brightspark> IH, I didn't fiddle with settings on mine, just set it up to defaults- let me dig it out for yout
[02:53] <brightspark> *you
[02:53] <Relondo> escott: I'm in the terminal.
[02:54] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, it's expecting you to give it a text file rather than a directory
[02:54] <escott> Relondo, so run that mkdir,mount command
[02:54] <stuartlittle> joren: ok, so i will submit it as a bug
[02:54] <IHateHavingToReg> but it looks like all of my mail are in different files, one email per text file
[02:55] <escott> and then run "ls /media/ubuntu/boot" and tell us if you see files named initrd.img* or vmlinuz* or config*
[02:55] <Relondo> escott: The dark deed you have commanded is done, master.
[02:57] <Tech-1> lol
[02:58] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[02:58] <brightspark> which you run using sudo
[02:58] <escott> Relondo, were you able to run "ls /media/ubuntu/boot"?
[02:59] <Relondo> escott: I don't see them this time,
[02:59] <Relondo> escott: I saw some of those you mentioned before.
[02:59] <OlaRune> i'm configuring my own error pages for apache2
[02:59] <escott> Relondo, what does it say
[02:59] <OlaRune> but when i tried to add 429 i got
[02:59] <OlaRune> root@Dogget:/var/www/error# service apache2 restart
[02:59] <OlaRune> Syntax error on line 26 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf:
[02:59] <OlaRune> Unsupported HTTP response code 429
[02:59] <OlaRune> Action 'configtest' failed.
[02:59] <OlaRune> The Apache error log may have more information. ...fail!
[02:59] <FloodBot1> OlaRune: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:59] <escott> Relondo, does it just list "grub" and nothing else
[02:59] <OlaRune> should 429 be there or not?
[02:59] <OlaRune> sorry for flood
[03:00] <OlaRune> 429 = too many requests
[03:00] <IHateHavingToReg> brightspark: okay, I have Internet Site, (my domain name), (my default login), (list of domains), do NOT focus synchronous updates on mail queue, <IP_ADDRESS>/8 [::ffff:<IP_ADDRESS>]/104 [::1]/128__, yes I want to use procmail for local delivery, no limit, +, both ipv6 and ipv4
[03:00] <IHateHavingToReg> does that look right
[03:01] <Relondo> escott: "abi-3.0.0-12-generic config-3.0.0-12-generic grub (grub is in blue) memtest86+.bin memtest86+_multiboot.bin system.map-3.0.0-12-generic vmcoreinfo-3.0.0-12-generic"
[03:01] <IHateHavingToReg> i don't really see anything on that configuration list that would create the symptoms i have
[03:01] <tavelram> Im having trouble installing 11.10 from usb. Ive tried on both hp mini 2140 and eee 901. On the 901 I just get a blinking _underscore after bios, nothing more. Ive run the install twice, and choosed to install the boot loader to both the device and to the partition itself. Same result.
[03:01] <diverdude> how do i echo out a variable?
[03:02] <diverdude> like this variable has been defined: export APACHE_RUN_USER=www-data
[03:02] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | tavasti
[03:02] <diverdude> how can i display that value in terminal
[03:02] <IHateHavingToReg> wow
[03:02] <tavelram> ubottu, me? thanks :)
[03:02] <urlin2u> tavelram, look at the message to tavasti it was for you.
[03:02] <tavelram> oh ^^
[03:03] <tavelram> yeah :)
[03:03] <escott> Relondo, ok. so that looks good. it means you have a kernel where I expected you to. how about "ls /media/ubuntu/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[03:03] <IHateHavingToReg> brightspark: it works now :/
[03:03] <IHateHavingToReg> thanks
[03:03] <Relondo> urlin2u: How can I access nomodeset if I  cannot see anything or get to the terminal?
[03:03] <urlin2u> Relondo, that was not pointed at you.
[03:03] <brightspark> IHateHavingToReg, no prob.  my options didn't have procmail, but if it is fixed now very good.
[03:03] <escott> Relondo, also "ls -l /media/ubuntu/boot/grub/" should list a bunch of files (we don't need to see them all) but the timestamps should be recent (from when we did the grub-install 20 minutes ago)
[03:04] <Relondo> urlin2u: Yeah, but I was told to go into nomodeset on the computer that has no visuals with ubuntu (incompatible ATI card)
[03:04] <Relondo> escott: The first command says no such file or directory. Was grub supposed to be in there twice?
[03:04] <escott> diverdude, echo $APACHE_RUN_USER
[03:05] <escott> Relondo, yes. we expect to have a file called grub.cfg in the /boot/grub folder
[03:05] <diverdude> escott, that displays nothing
[03:05] <urlin2u> Relondo, sure but it has nothing to do with your current situation.
[03:05] <escott> diverdude, then the variable is not defined in the environment
[03:05] <diverdude> escott, but it is....the apache server uses it
[03:05] <Relondo> urlin2u: I have two computers with Ubuntu problems. This is related to the other one.
[03:06] <escott> Relondo, so seems that for whatever reason you dont have a grub.cfg file, but we can create one easily enough
[03:06] <Relondo> escott: The second command listed lots of files.
[03:06] <urlin2u> Relondo, I would be glad to help when your finished if needed, but I'm not a graphics card helper in general.
[03:06] <Relondo> urlin2u: (I really drew the short stick when it comes to Linux)
[03:06] <diverdude> escott, you can  try and have a look in /etc/apache2/envvars
[03:06] <escott> Relondo, "sudo chroot /media/ubuntu /bin/bash" this puts you "inside" /media/ubuntu (so everywhere we used to put /media/ubuntu we will just put /)
[03:07] <urlin2u> Relondo, well you have good help with escott, linux fas a learning curve as well.
[03:07] <urlin2u> fas=as*
[03:07] <Relondo> escott: Now it says root@ubuntu:/# before the command line
[03:07] <Relondo> urlin2u: Ok.
[03:08] <escott> Relondo, good now we can run "update-grub" (you are already root thats the root@ubuntu bit) so you dont need to sudo
[03:08] <escott> Relondo, if that is successful then "ls /boot/grub/grub.cfg" should list a file (and not say it doesnt exist)
[03:09] <Relondo> escott: update-grub gave errors. You want the specific output?
[03:09] <escott> Relondo, yes what were the errors
[03:10] <escott> Relondo, also what does grub-install --version say
[03:10] <Relondo> escott: "Could not find platform independent libraries <prefix>"
[03:10] <Relondo> escott: "Could not find platform dependent libraries <exec_prefix>"
[03:11] <Relondo> escott: "Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix> [:<exec_prefix>]"
[03:11] <Relondo> escott: ImportError: No module named site
[03:11] <escott> Relondo, you know i forgot to bind some mounts
[03:12] <escott> Relondo, open a new terminal
[03:12] <Relondo> escott: How do I open a new one?
[03:12] <Relondo> escott: Clear?
[03:12] <escott> Relondo, right click in the existing terminal and open a new tab or open a new terminal
[03:12] <escott> Relondo, leave the current terminal as it
[03:12] <Relondo> escott: I'm in the Ctrl+Alt+F1 terminal, not GUI.
[03:12] <escott> Relondo, ok ctrl-alt-f2 then
[03:13] <Relondo> escott: Ok.
[03:14] <Relondo> escott: Do you have all of this stuff memorized?
[03:14] <escott> Relondo, in the new terminal run "sudo mount -o bind /proc /media/ubuntu/proc; sudo mount -o bind /dev /media/ubuntu/dev;" this will "copy" some needed stuff to the ubuntu system
[03:15] <escott> Relondo, some of it, but its not that complicated once you know what it is doing. if both of those work and dont complain you can ctrl-alt-f1 and i can try and figure out what these python complaints are about
[03:15] <Relondo> escott: They gave no errors.
[03:15] <escott> Relondo, good then ctrl-alt-f1
[03:15] <Relondo> escott: I have.
[03:16] <escott> Relondo, just for kicks try the update-grub command again. im not expecting it to work, but we might get lucky
[03:16] <ozzloy> i have a conf file in /etc/init/foo.conf pointing at a script i can run by hand just fine.  but when i do `start foo` i get "start: Job failed to start".  internets is not helping
[03:17] <Relondo> escott: Same error as before.
[03:17] <ozzloy> how do i make an upstart script?
[03:17] <den_> grtfghf
[03:17] <escott> ozzloy, its service servicename start
[03:17] <ozzloy> escott, oh ok i'll try that
[03:17] <ozzloy> escott, same
[03:17] <somsip> ozzloy: maybe this will help http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[03:18] <ozzloy> somsip, that's what i read to find out i should make an /etc/init/foo.conf
[03:18] <somsip> ozzloy: so you have a script. Did you intend to ask a different question then?
[03:19] <ozzloy> ok, i guess my question is more like "why do i get failure instead of success?"
[03:19] <somsip> ozzloy: do you have your answer yet?
[03:19] <ozzloy> somsip, did you see what i wrote just before?
[03:19] <wolfric> any suggestions for preventing users from deleting their own home directory?
[03:20] <jiohdi> wolfric back them up to ubuntuone
[03:20] <somsip> ozzloy: aha - I didn't see your first comment
[03:20] <dele> I am using xubuntu 10.4 dual booting with windows XP, however grub 2 does not see the windows partition
[03:20] <wolfric> jiohdi: i'm not worried about them loosing files
[03:20] <wolfric> jiohdi: but i'd like everyone's home directory to always exist
[03:20] <ozzloy> somsip, no worries
[03:20] <jiohdi> wolfric, the darwin awards exist for a reason
[03:20] <ozzloy> i'm new to writing scripts that run at boot
[03:21] <escott> Relondo, run this: 'python -c "import sys; print sys.path"'
[03:21] <wolfric> jiohdi: it's not their problem it's mine... if i need to put something IN their home directory, i don't want to find out it's missing
[03:21] <ozzloy> so i don't know "the old way" of doing this either
[03:21] <Relondo> escott: I closed the lid of my 'top for a sec, and when I opened it back up, a whole string of SQUASHFS errors popped up.
[03:21] <escott> Relondo, yeah it probably tried to sleep
[03:21] <wolfric> jiohdi: in any case, please let's just assume i'm not going to take that view and drop that side of things
[03:21] <jiohdi> wolfric, you can make it read only and make it not owned by them, no?
[03:21] <Relondo> escott: Mine's not set to sleep when the lid closes. But sure. Running above code
[03:22] <Relondo> escott: Uhhh....there is now no prefix to my command line.
[03:22] <skilz> Is there anyway to setup my computer so it wont boot unless I have a usb dongle inserted with a special file that allows the system to boot (think of it like a key).
[03:22] <skilz> so if the laptop is stollen even if my password is cracked, they still need the key (usb dongle)
[03:22] <escott> Relondo, did your "'s match you need two one to open one to close
[03:22] <wolfric> jiohdi: is there a better way of doing it?
[03:23] <jiohdi> wolfric, the only way I am aware that they cannot delete it is if they do not own it
[03:23] <urlin2u> skilz, I think you can set up a truecrypt boot it might be easier
[03:23] <Relondo> escott: I didn't enter the code, because I noticed that my command line has no prefix.
[03:23] <jiohdi> wolfric, even then if they really want to delete it they can
[03:24] <escott> skilz, there are lots of variants of things like this. but the usb dongle for boot would be harder to do. usually you either have full disk encryption with a password or you have an encrypted home (in which case a usb key is easier)
[03:24] <escott> Relondo, you may have lost the livecd system when you closed the lid. just press [enter] and see if it comes back
[03:24] <wolfric> jiohdi: i don't need to make it impossible to delete
[03:24] <wolfric> jiohdi: just that you can't do it without some necessary effort
[03:24] <Relondo> escott: It came back. Enter commands?
[03:25] <jiohdi> wolfric, you can make it hidden and then make an link to it that is visible
[03:25] <escott> Relondo, sure go for it
[03:25] <jiohdi> if they delete the link they do not delete the real object
[03:25] <MrCleanWithHair> server is connected to home audio system. best option for selecting and playing media on the server from another computer on the network?
[03:26] <Relondo> escott: It game the same error as before, the one with "Could not find platform independent libraries"
[03:26] <wolfric> jiohdi: still not quite what i'm looking for... is there perhaps an extended acl i can use?
[03:26] <h4ckm3> anyone have good working knowledge of the encrypted home folder system?
[03:26] <aj00200> skilz: it might be an option for you to setup truecrypt and store the key on that usb device. This wouldn't protect against boot, but you could encrypt a large amount of data
[03:26] <aj00200> h4ckm3: it depends on what you need help with
[03:26] <escott> Relondo, ok what does "echo $PATH" say
[03:27] <h4ckm3> not help
[03:27] <h4ckm3> just a question
[03:27] <h4ckm3> my question is about how the password interacts with the generated encryption key
[03:27] <jiohdi> wolfric, what is the file for and why are you worried it will be deleted?
[03:27] <aj00200> i.e. you want to know how the password encrypts or protects the encryption key?
[03:28] <Relondo> escott: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
[03:28] <escott> h4ckm3, the password (you can have multiple ones) decrypts a file with the actual keys to the data
[03:28] <h4ckm3> indeed
[03:28] <aj00200> escott: I am curious as well. Do you know what encryption method is used?
[03:28] <h4ckm3> so it's really to layers of encryption
[03:28] <h4ckm3> two*
[03:29] <h4ckm3> password>key>homefolder
[03:29] <h4ckm3> key is static and password can be changed
[03:29] <escott> aj00200, h4ckm3 im not sure what the actual encryption is, the best resource is dustin kirklands blog
[03:29] <h4ckm3> is the passwd encryption as strong?
[03:30] <h4ckm3> dustin Kirkand > thanks
[03:30] <escott> Relondo, ok im not clear on what exactly is going on here. something is messing up the python environment
[03:30] <escott> Relondo, we could do one of two things
[03:30] <MrCleanWithHair> h4ckm3, you're really asking how encryption as a whole works?
[03:30] <Relondo> escott: (I have this drive imaged, so feel free to do something drastic and possibly hard-drive wrecking).
[03:30] <escott> Relondo, we could try and figure out why python in the livecd isn't working, or we could manually type in a minimal grub.cfg file
[03:31] <rubbernick> heyhm, how do i disable cursor blinking in terminal? none of the methods from google seem to work
[03:31] <Relondo> escott: Which would take longer? Let's do the quickest one.
[03:31] <joksancpen> preferences?
[03:31] <escott> Relondo, i would go with hand editing a minimal grub.cfg. is there a text editor you are comfortable with?
[03:31] <Relondo> escott: Notepad? Openoffice?
[03:31] <escott> Relondo, well the minimal grub.cfg is faster because i dont know the answer to why python isn't working
[03:31] <Relondo> escott: Do those count?
[03:31] <escott> Relondo, more like nano or vi. I would recommend nano
[03:32] <Relondo> escott: I don't know what that is.
[03:32] <escott> Relondo, type nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:32] <rubbernick> joksancpen: that to me? no, don't work.... strange but true...
[03:32] <aj00200> thanks, escott
[03:32] <Relondo> escott: Do I need to get out of root@ubuntu?
[03:32] <escott> Relondo, no stay in root@ubuntu
[03:32] <joksancpen> rubbernick which versionare you on?
[03:33] <rubbernick> joksancpen: i anticipated that question. how do i find out? it's a bit older version...
[03:33] <h4ckm3> I was just interested in the encryption used in the password and its relation to the encryption to the home folder.
[03:33] <Relondo> escott: It gave a bunch of errors, and at the bottom it says "Press Enter to continue starting nano."
[03:33] <h4ckm3> looking for a weak point
[03:33] <joksancpen> well go to system about
[03:33] <escott> Relondo, what errors?
[03:33] <tavelram> Still trouble installing 11.10 on eee 901 using usb live. After bios i only get a _. I can't access grub using shift as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 . Tried this as well, and it complains about the embedding is unusually small. http://robertbeal.com/562/rebuilding-grub2-grub-cfg-from-ubuntu-live-cd
[03:34] <Relondo> escott: Error in /etc/nanorc on line 236: Error reading /usr/share/nano/nanorc.nanorc: No such file or directory
[03:34] <pzaully> ech
[03:34] <Relondo> escott: Error in /etc/nanorc on line 239: Error reading /usr/share/nano/c.nanorc: No such file or directory
[03:34] <escott> Relondo, what does "ls /" output?
[03:35] <Relondo> I'm now in GNU nano 2.2.6
[03:35] <joksancpen> rubbernick just type lsb_release -a in a terminal
[03:35] <froq> !next bones
[03:36] <OldOneEye> ok i installed ubuntu desktop now i want to use kde instead of this shit
[03:36] <synapse> Has anyone ever had this problem on ubuntu before?  http://pastebin.com/yemQYBis  "jack not found"
[03:36] <escott> Relondo, ok so ctrl-alt-f2 and then just check that "ls /media/ubuntu" looks correct, and that "ls /media/ubuntu/home/<<your_username_here>>" has all your files
[03:37] <urlin2u> OldOneEye, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:37] <rubbernick> joksancpen: can't tell you, how much i do hate computers today... seems to be 10.10 ... btw lsb_... says: No LSB modules are available.
[03:37] <gogeta> rubbernick: lol
[03:38] <Relondo> escott: I don't know what constitutes it looking "correct", but it has "bin boot dev etc..."
[03:38] <joksancpen> rubbernick just go to system in the upper bar and then click on about Ubuntu
[03:38] <escott> Relondo, that would be correct
[03:38] <joksancpen> dude and do not say that you hate computers please
[03:38] <gogeta> i hate computers
[03:38] <joksancpen> OldOnEye if you are using 11.10 you should be able to change the version on the startup
[03:38] <OldOneEye> also i need a good windows vitual machine
[03:38] <Relondo> escott: And the second command didn't display anything, but removed the prefix form my command line.
[03:39] <Relondo> escott: *from
[03:39] <joksancpen> OldOneEye is your pc old?
[03:39] <escott> Relondo, did you replace <<your_username_here>> with the username you selected during the install?
[03:39] <OldOneEye> no its i3 2.3 4gigram
[03:39] <Relondo> escott: Is it case sensitive?
[03:39] <Relondo> escott: And was I suppose to leave the <<>> around it?
[03:39] <rubbernick> joksancpen: yes, after only some minutes some webpage appeared in a broweser which might or might not crash in a few minutest, which gave me the 10.10 information.... i believe that... and *surely* i love computers!
[03:39] <escott> Relondo, if not press Ctrl-C (ctrl and c at the same time) and try again
[03:40] <escott> Relondo, no take the <<>> out
[03:40] <joksancpen> you can install a good virtual machine with XP SP3 and that should do it OldOneEye
[03:40] <joksancpen> hehehe
[03:40] <joksancpen> ok
[03:40] <OldOneEye> does it support graphics
[03:40] <patrick> o chat br?
[03:40] <OldOneEye> games
[03:40] <joksancpen> lets see rubbernick
[03:41] <Relondo> escott: No such file or directory. But I never did successfully launch Ubuntu, so maybe there are no files?
[03:41] <joksancpen> it would not be so good to play COD or CRISIS but it would work with basic software
[03:41] <urlin2u> Relondo, did you resize the ubuntu for the XP install?
[03:41] <escott> Relondo, ok. sounds like something about the install didnt work and that it broke at some point during the install
[03:42] <escott> Relondo, so trying to fix grub isn't going to help anything because you dont have a working ubuntu system to boot anyways
[03:42] <Relondo> escott: That could be the case. It displayed a weird terminal window at the end.
[03:42] <OldOneEye> not too intence, but knights of the old republic
[03:42] <escott> Relondo, did your ubuntu system ever boot?
[03:42] <OldOneEye> and civ gasmes
[03:42] <OldOneEye> civ games
[03:42] <Relondo> urlin2u: Yes, the first time. But during that install it said "Unrecoverable error". When I retried, it did not ask me to resize partitions.
[03:43] <joksancpen> rubbernick Open gconf-editor, navigate to /apps/gnome-terminal/profiles/Default, find cursor_blink_mode and change its value to off.
[03:43] <Relondo> escott: No. But when I tried reinstalling, the LiveCD told me that Ubuntu 11.10 was already installed.
[03:43] <rubbernick> joksancpen: i read on the internets many people compile their own g-term for years to not blink while the 'cursor in text fields' *does* blink. that doesn't matter to me, i'd accept *everything* to not blink. just doesn't change a thing
[03:43] <urlin2u> Relondo, sound like a reinstall now you can resize ubuntu from the front or end but y9u have to knoow what your doing.
[03:43] <escott> Relondo, ok, then that does not sound like a successful install. i think you need to try and reinstall ubuntu
[03:43] <OldOneEye> joksancpen can u tell me how to make windows my default in grub
[03:43] <joksancpen> I do not know OldOneEye but maybe
[03:44] <rubbernick> joksancpen: tried that. no effect! (am checking again now though...)
[03:44] <escott> Relondo, and you want to tell the livecd to overwrite the existing ubuntu install (which should be safe since you never booted it and dont have any files on it you need to save)
[03:44] <h4ckm3> If you can't get grub working you could also try grub4dos
[03:44] <Relondo> escott: Gotcha.
[03:44] <joksancpen> rubbernick you have to edit the grub
[03:44] <joksancpen> and put the windows boot section first
[03:44] <Relondo> escott: I clicked install ubuntu, and now a window popped up asking to "unmount partitions that are in use?"
[03:44] <escott> Relondo, yes
[03:45] <joksancpen> grub works as it is written
[03:45] <h4ckm3> just edit the menu/lst file
[03:45] <rubbernick> joksancpen: uh??
[03:45] <h4ckm3> menu.lst*
[03:45] <escott> Relondo, it may be a good idea to reboot (it will forget everything you've done in the last 30 minutes or so)
[03:45] <h4ckm3> should be in your boot partition or folder
[03:45] <Relondo> escott: Another window "ubi-partman crashed"
[03:46] <OldOneEye> sorry wat display manager should i use i dunno kdm or lightdm
[03:46] <tavelram> I solved the grub booting problem. It needed more space at the mbr. And I had a 15mb partition at the begining that I could delete.
[03:46] <joksancpen> http://beconfused.com/2008/how-to-make-windows-vista-boot-first-using-grub-in-ubuntu/
[03:46] <joksancpen> rubbernick
[03:46] <synapse> anyone know what any idea package contains QTNSPLUGIN?
[03:46] <joksancpen> it is just as h4ckm3 said it
[03:46] <Relondo> escott: Should I install through GUI or terminal?
[03:47] <urlin2u> tavelram, you can't change the mbr you have a partition. The mbr is the first 512 mb of the hard drive
[03:47] <joksancpen> GUI
[03:47] <urlin2u> resize*
[03:47] <rubbernick> joksancpen: yes, checked: cursor_blink_mode is off, was off and always will be off... it's the only profile that is there... still it blinks before my eyes :/ .... and what that windows thing about?
[03:47] <Relondo> escott: And if terminal, how do I do that?
[03:47] <joksancpen> did you reboot?
[03:48] <Relondo> joksancpen: Are you talking to me?
[03:48] <rubbernick> joksancpen: nope... i'd hate to reboot this machine
[03:48] <Nicolus> c_nick
[03:48] <tavelram> urlin2u, byte. well, it seemed to be the problem.grub complained about small embedding size, and this thread helped: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1704081
[03:48] <joksancpen> why rubbernick?
[03:48] <rubbernick> joksancpen: :) do you think it'll help?
[03:48] <joksancpen> just press ctrl+alt+f1
[03:49] <rubbernick> joksancpen: btw ther *is* not windows section on this machine
[03:49] <joksancpen> it does not matter
[03:49] <escott> Relondo, so... (a) have you ever checked the md5sums of this install disk? do you know if it works on other machines?
[03:49] <OldOneEye> sorry wat display manager should i use i dunno kdm or lightdm
[03:49] <joksancpen> and then type sudo service gdm restart
[03:49] <makara> hi. In ~/.profile it reads "# This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login exists."
[03:49] <makara> I need to add instructions to .bash_profile. Won't this break things?
[03:49] <rubbernick> joksancpen: i think you're confsusing me with o-eye, but i'll hit c-a-f1 just for fun... :)
[03:50] <Relondo> escott: Well, my other computer has graphics problems...so no.
[03:50] <joksancpen> no rubbernick
[03:50] <rubbernick> joksancpen: no yes?
[03:50] <Relondo> escott: As for the md5sums...what?
[03:50] <joksancpen> do not forget to type sudo service gdm restart rubbernick
[03:51] <escott> !md5sum
[03:51] <urlin2u> tavelram, I doubt you need a boot partition. But if it working enjoy.
[03:51] <escott> !md5sum | Relondo
[03:51] <rubbernick> joksancpen: *then* c-a-f1 can't work, because i'm only synergy'd to the machine
[03:51] <rubbernick> joksancpen: and a gdm restart is out of the question too
[03:51] <joksancpen> dude you just will have to restart the machine
[03:52] <joksancpen> because maybe the profiles aren't loaded yet
[03:52] <rubbernick> joksancpen: garble. i won't.... yeah. only restarting is 'the big blink' to me... no use in that for now :)
[03:52] <rubbernick> joksancpen: thanks for the hints anyway... :]
[03:53] <escott> makara, so if you want to read ~/.profile but need to have ~/.bash_profile then chain from ~/.bash_profile to ~/.profile
[03:53] <tavelram> urlin2u, yeah. A bit odd that the size requirements would have changed between 9.04 and 11.10 though. "The embedding area is the space between the mbr (the first 512 bytes of the hard drive) and the first sector of the first partition. Grub code is written to the embedding area as well as the mbr and the root Linux partition.
[03:53] <tavelram> "
[03:53] <joksancpen> ok
[03:53] <joksancpen> rubbernick how old is the computer?
[03:54] <rubbernick> joksancpen: don't ask :) ... as a matter of fact, the cursor doesn't blink when i leave the screen, so i can live with it... as long as i use the secondary tft only for short times/notes :/
[03:55] <Relondo> escott: To be honest, I'm a little tired. I've been at this for 3+ hours. I think I'm just going to try a clean install, and if that doesn't work, I'll pick it up again tomorrow.
[03:55] <escott> Relondo, i agree you need to do a clean install. take a break from it, and check that the CD is burned properly with md5sum prior to installing
[03:56] <Ebonwumon> How do I set the default app to open a certain filetype? I want to open an MP4 with mplayer, but the mplayer binary that's installed doesn't appear in the "open with" dialog and I can't find a way to manually type the command to launch with
[03:56] <Relondo> escott:  Will I likely be able to find you tomorrow?
[03:56] <escott> Ebonwumon, you can use alacarte to create a menu entry or use desktop-file-install and desktop-file-validate to create your own
[03:56] <escott> Relondo, probably not
[03:57] <escott> Relondo, but im sure there will be others who can help you out
[03:57] <Relondo> escott: Of course. Well, thanks for all your help.
[03:57] <h4ckm3> for q's
[03:57] <varun06> when I open eclipse in Ubuntu 11.10, it opens two process in terminal
[03:57] <h4ckm3> if escott isn't around
[03:57] <varun06> it creates some problem with my android sdk
[03:58] <varun06> any help
[03:58] <Relondo> h4ckm3: Thakns.
[03:58] <Relondo> *thanks.
[03:59] <Relondo> 'Night all.
[03:59] <h4ckm3> night
[04:00] <bra> Buenas noches a todos
[04:00] <urlin2u> es
[04:00] <urlin2u> !es
[04:00] <bra> ok
[04:00] <MahaVishnu> anyone know an easy command to move only folders containing a certain file type to a new dir ?
[04:01] <MrCleanWithHair> MahaVishnu, write a script
[04:01] <escott> MahaVishnu, mv folder/*.ext newfolder/
[04:01] <researcher123> can I make a dual boot with 32 bit & 64 bit Ubuntu 11.10?
[04:01] <RokcStar> is there an open source tool to ghost ubuntu installations
[04:01] <MrCleanWithHair> researcher123, yes
[04:01] <escott> researcher123, sure, you just have to have two root partitions
[04:01] <MahaVishnu> escott$ will that move only directories containing that ext. ?
[04:01] <joksancpen> MahaVishnu you can filter the folder to move using grep
[04:01] <DaZ> researcher123: but why?
[04:02] <MrCleanWithHair> MahaVishnu, no that would only more files in a folder with that extension
[04:02] <researcher123> MrCleanWithHair: How
[04:02] <b1llydev> how do i uninstall somthing in ubuntu
[04:02] <MrCleanWithHair> researcher123, install 64-bit. then install 32-bit. have two root partitions. and maybe two /home partitions if you want/
[04:02] <researcher123> escott: I have my full hard disk used for 32 bit installation already. How to creat 2 root partitions now?
[04:02] <escott> MahaVishnu, the shell will expand that to mv folder/a.ext folder/b.ext ... folder/c.ext newfolder/ which for mv will move the files a.ext,b.ext,c.ext to newfolder
[04:03] <joksancpen> b1llydev use rm
[04:03] <MrCleanWithHair> researcher123, when you boot from the 64-bit it will ask you if you want to dual boot
[04:03] <researcher123> MrCleanWithHair:  I have my full hard disk used for 32 bit installation already. How to creat 2 root partitions now?
[04:03] <researcher123> ok
[04:03] <escott> researcher123, boot the livecd and use gparted to shrink the partition and make yourself some space
[04:03] <researcher123> ok.I will try that way
[04:03] <MahaVishnu> escott$ I want to do it recursively. like keep directory structure. just move those dirs containing the files to a new dir.
[04:04] <MrCleanWithHair> b1llydev, go to the software center and uninstall, or a terminal and sudo apt-get remove whatyouwanttoremove.
[04:04] <researcher123> thanks all
[04:04] <MrCleanWithHair> b1llydev, rm deletes files. ignore that.
[04:04] <joksancpen> MahaVishnu you have to filter the mv command
[04:04] <MahaVishnu>  joksancpen example?
[04:05] <b1llydev> MrCleanWithHair: thx
[04:05] <escott> MahaVishnu, so recursive is a bit harder as most shells won't do recursive globing, (maybe ZSH will), but you can do it with find -iname "*.ext" -exec mv {} newfolder, although that would probably flatten the directory structure
[04:05] <h4ckm3> I use it for things like resizing
[04:05] <MrCleanWithHair> MahaVishnu, what file type?
[04:05] <escott> MahaVishnu, there is probably a way you can do this with a more complex find command, but it would take some reading of the man page
[04:05] <werbderver> Has anyone here else had trouble setting up ruby on rails?
[04:06] <makara> escott: do I need to read .profile? Why would it say it will be ignored if .bash_profile exists? I want to understand
[04:06] <joksancpen> MahaVishnu mv {ls /whateverdirectory | grep *.whateverextension} /outputdir
[04:06] <MahaVishnu> escott$ I tried to do it with find couldn't figure ito ut.
[04:06] <joksancpen> something like that
[04:06] <gaurav_tablet> i am using ubuntu 11.10 after updating system "upstart-udev-br" this process is using my 50% cpu usage what should i do
[04:06] <joksancpen> b1lldev I am sorry I was a little off
[04:07] <joksancpen> you should use sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:07] <MahaVishnu> MrCleanWithHair$ multiple I was hoping to be able to adjust the output I want to get a kind of master sorting command.
[04:07] <MahaVishnu> or input rather
[04:07] <escott> makara, .profile is generic and would be for *any* shell. so if you use csh or ksh then maybe you read .profile. .bash_profile is bash specific so if .bash_profile exists it assumes that .profile is meant for some other shell. if you want to load .profile then source it in your .bash_profile
[04:07] <MrCleanWithHair> MahaVishnu, so maybe all folders containing .flac to ~/Music etc etc
[04:07] <rumpel> MahaVishnu, find -type f -name '*.gz' -exec dirname {} \; | uniq    would generate a list of directories which contain .gz-files. You could use that for a mv command.
[04:08] <gaurav_tablet> can anyone help through
[04:08] <joksancpen> rumpel that also could work
[04:08] <joksancpen> what gaurav_tablet
[04:08] <joksancpen> ?
[04:08] <rumpel> MahaVishnu, problem could be maybe if there are spaces in directory names
[04:08] <makara> escott: can I just add the lines to .profile rather?
[04:08] <escott> makara, .profile is fairly short by default, you should be able to make sense of what it does fairly easily. if you are confused by some it just ask
[04:09] <gaurav_tablet> one of my process is eating half of my cpu upstart-udev
[04:09] <gaurav_tablet> what should i do
[04:09] <joksancpen> which one?
[04:09] <rubbernick> MahaVishnu: a bit like (untested): ( find -name '*.ext' | cpio -o ) | ( cd tar-get-dir ; cpio -idmv ) ... later do find -name ... -delete .... as long as target dir is no child of current
[04:09] <MahaVishnu> wow so complicated
[04:09] <gaurav_tablet> joksancpen, upstart-udev
[04:09] <escott> makara, you can add to .profile or .bashrc or whatever you want. there are bunch of different shell startup things depending upon usage (is it an interactive shell or a login shell or a batch shell etc)
[04:09] <notlistening> ubuntu server I have a 3G modem that when i boot will only detect as a CD drive but when i replug with detects as both a cd driver and 3g modem, what is different when i am booting?
[04:10] <makara> escott: ok thanks
[04:11] <joksancpen> gaurav_tablet you should see what other process is causing you problems
[04:11] <makara> notlistening: 3G usb modems are endless trouble on linux in my experience
[04:11] <joksancpen> because that is a root process and I do not think it should be a good idea to kill it
[04:11] <makara> notlistening: too many layers to get the things to work.
[04:12] <gaurav_tablet> joksancpen, what should i do
[04:13] <escott> gaurav_tablet, you could probably kill upstart-udev-bridge but all your hotplug events (plugging in a mouse or a disk) would break
[04:13] <OldOneEye> wat do i do once kubuntu-desktop finishes installing
[04:13] <Tech-1> reboot
[04:13] <joksancpen> gaurav_tablet you should the bug posts in launchpad
[04:14] <OldOneEye> will kde load up then
[04:14] <Tech-1> it should
[04:14] <Tech-1> if
[04:14] <notlistening> makara, tell me about it
[04:14] <undefined0> my vlc crashes when i press the "extended settings button". how do i fix that?
[04:14] <urlin2u> OldOneEye, if you choose it at the login.
[04:14] <Tech-1> it dont after boot, log out and make it load kde
[04:15] <OldOneEye> just log out?
[04:15] <joksancpen> gaurav_tablet https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/829980
[04:15] <varun06> it seems that I have to leave my beloved Ubuntu
[04:15] <varun06> due to one petty issue that taking forever to resolve
[04:15] <makara> notlistening: its like web development for hardware :)
[04:16] <joksancpen> yes OldOneEye logout and log in will load all your profile settings including your desktop
[04:16] <rubbernick> varun06: well, many of us seem to be on the way out atm :[
[04:17] <joksancpen> I was just playing with OpenGL and ended up here
[04:18] <urlin2u> rubbernick, then why are you here?
[04:18] <notlistening> right usb-storage is blacklisted but still loading..?
[04:18] <notlistening> is that right?
[04:18] <urlin2u> rubbernick, just ribbing you. :D
[04:19] <rubbernick> urlin2u: simple answer: i have some older buntus running (cf above...), which up to now didn't behave toooo bad up to now... :) have to admit, half of my new installs this month are != buntu :/
[04:20] <rubbernick> urlin2u: and ubuntu only is up to par because i had to install it twice on the same machine :/// (wubi issue there)
[04:21] <urlin2u> rubbernick, wubi.....Why?
[04:21] <enovativ_> can anyone tell me if they have had success with using a usb wireless adapter on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[04:21] <notlistening> Has had enough of 3g modems
[04:22] <enovativ_> honestly !  can anyone tell me that  ?
[04:22] <rubbernick> urlin2u: usual suspects: no-boot-from-usb-machine-with-broken-optical-drive-all-in-one-device-no-access-to-internal-connectors :/
[04:22] <urlin2u> rubbernick, your familiar with the boot menu not part of the bios?
[04:23] <hugalua>  if ubuntu's unity is the worst thing ubuntu has introduced, what's the 2nd most?
[04:23] <RokcStar> lol
[04:23] <RokcStar> font?
[04:23] <rubbernick> urlin2u: ? uh? some bootloader? how to install? ... not sure what you are talking about...
[04:23] <notlistening> the naming scheme
[04:23] <joksancpen> banshee
[04:23] <hugalua> i been quite happy with it until they released it, and i prompty downgaded it
[04:23] <RokcStar> oh yea the naming..
[04:23] <enovativ_> I have a netgear g43/n150 wireless usb micro adapter !!!
[04:24] <hugalua> i'm find with the naming, it doesn't get in the way of me getting stuff done
[04:24] <enovativ_> has anyone gotten that particular wireless adapter to work
[04:24] <rubbernick> hugalua: i particularily dislike the website :/
[04:24] <hugalua> i think unity must beat out #2 by a factor of 10
[04:24] <RokcStar> hugalua thats why i used xubuntu.that popout thing got really annoying
[04:25] <hugalua> ya for sure.  The past few days, whenever my ubuntu 11.11 wakes from hibernate I get a message before the gui invokes that says "Not enough free swap" then she brings me to the lock screen just fine.. everything i've read shows people having this error before hibernation, never afterwards... any ideas?
[04:27] <urlin2u> mcwire, what is the ram and swap amounts?
[04:27] <notlistening> mcwire is the machine actually hibernating?
[04:27] <cconstantine> hey all, having a problem getting audio to work with a display-port->hdmi setup (latest ubuntu, thinkpadx220).  I don't hear anything from the TV and I don't see an audio device for it
[04:27] <cconstantine> anyone know good resources for debugging it
[04:27] <ggreer> just curious... what's the laptop shown on the front page of the ubuntu website? http://www.ubuntu.com/
[04:27] <mcwire> notlistening: yep, hibernates just fine
[04:27] <rubbernick> oh, to be ontopic... on another machine (11.10) on wake from suspend i enter password, strange things happen, then have to enter password again... only me?
[04:28] <DefaultIdentity> hi room. anyone around and able to advise re: ubuntu and a server with an intel graphics card. i seem to be having problems with the graphics card driver. (i dont want to run a headless server) :/
[04:28] <OldOneEye> how do i uninstall the others where i select kde and just have kde plasma
[04:28] <notlistening> mcwire, sometimes its best to fight the battles worth fighting ;)
[04:28] <mcwire> notlistening: i only see the mesg briefly after it wakes
[04:28] <geoffmcc> cconstantine: have you gone to sound and make sure the correct profile is loaded on hardware tab
[04:28] <mcwire> notlistening: fair enough :) just never saw the mesg before.. wasn't sure if it was a prelude to a larger problem
[04:28] <notlistening> cconstantine, where have you looked for the audio device?
[04:29] <geoffmcc> mcwire: alot of applications running on hibernate?
[04:29] <urlin2u> OldOneEye, make sure you have the right release.  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[04:29] <cconstantine> geoffmcc, no... investigating
[04:29] <ggreer> I know it's a dell, but dell has so many models that I doubt I could find it
[04:29] <cconstantine> notlistening, the gnome 'sound' control panel
[04:29] <blackuranus> bonjour
[04:30] <notlistening> mcwire, I have had it also but that is when I have swap deactivated or not big enough, but if the machine hibernates just fine then I would be happy
[04:30] <geoffmcc> cconstantine: for hdmi i forget the exact name, but it should say digital in it if i recall
[04:30] <cconstantine> geoffmcc, k
[04:30] <notlistening> geoffmcc, iexxx
[04:30] <enovativ_> can anyone tell me if they have had success with using a usb wireless adapter on ubuntu 10.10 ?
[04:30] <somsip> ggreer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37915/what-is-that-dell-laptop-on-ubuntu-home-page
[04:31] <geoffmcc> cconstantine: or might just be hdmi, i dont have access to ubuntu on hdmi right now to check
[04:31] <ggreer> somsip: <3
[04:31] <urlin2u> enovativ_, there is a wiki on that.
[04:31] <mcwire> notlistening: works for me. another quick question if i may. what do the decimal numbers preceding entries in dmesg represent?
[04:31] <ggreer> what clever terms did you put into google to get that? anything related to ubuntu and dell laptops and front pages got me... uselessness
[04:31] <enovativ_> urlin2u, i have been on a few and they did not work
[04:31] <cconstantine> got it!
[04:31] <cconstantine> thanks all!
[04:31] <somsip> mcwire: microseconds from boot?
[04:31] <notlistening> cconstantine, you are best to set it in the sound settings, top right
[04:31] <urlin2u> enovativ_, on a few what?
[04:31] <enovativ_> urlin2u, i first tried compat-wireless...that didnot work
[04:32] <cconstantine> umm, I'm guessing getting overscan fixed is more complicated
[04:32] <OerHeks> ggreer, i guess it is one of these > http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/Dell/laptops
[04:32] <enovativ_> urlin2u, a few wiki and  tutorials and none of them works
[04:32] <somsip> mcwire: or nanoseconds, or the next one down
[04:32] <cconstantine> nevermind.  it's ok
[04:32] <ggreer> OerHeks: somsip helped me already and it was http://askubuntu.com/questions/37915/what-is-that-dell-laptop-on-ubuntu-home-page
[04:32] <somsip> ggreer: *google* helped you
[04:32] <mcwire> somsip: sounds about right.. thanks
[04:33] <urlin2u> enovativ_, look for a usb card that works. https://encrypted.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=usb+wireless+ubuntu&btnG=Search
[04:33] <ggreer> somsip: google didn't help me, but it helped you. and then you helped me. seriously all I got was stuff about microsoft frontpage and ubuntu bugs on dell laptops
[04:33] <mcwire> thanks for the quick advice guys, much appreciated. and by the way. Sony Vaio's + Ubuntu = AMAZING
[04:33] <mcwire> later all
[04:34] <jrr> how can I put the main unity bar thing on the right side?
[04:34] <jrr> my dual display setup makes the left side impractical
[04:34] <somsip> jrr: 3d or 2d?
[04:34] <jrr> 3d
[04:35] <somsip> jrr: maybe this will (not) help http://askubuntu.com/questions/44187/unity-title-bar-buttons-on-right-side
[04:35] <N00bish> anyone able to advise re: ubuntu and a server with an intel graphics card. i seem to be having problems with the graphics card driver. (i dont want to run a headless server) :/
[04:35] <jrr> hmm, that's title bar buttons
[04:35] <somsip> jrr: actually, pre 11.10. Maybe not so utd
[04:35] <somsip> jrr: oops - my bad
[04:36] <notlistening> N00bish, have you got graphics display at all?
[04:36] <urlin2u> N00bish, it would probably help if you named the card to start with details, details
[04:36] <N00bish> i tried installing kubuntu and all i get via vnc is a grey screen
[04:36] <jrr> most arguments in defense of all the customization options are totally valid if everybody in the world has a single widescreen monitor in horizontal aspect ratio
[04:36] <N00bish> yet the kubuntu install went fine, no problems
[04:36] <somsip> jrr: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11351175
[04:36] <jrr> *in defense of the *removal* of all the options
[04:36] <N00bish> startx shows intel n10 issues
[04:37] <N00bish> is it a kubuntu problem? should i pick an alternative
[04:37] <notlistening> N00bish might you try ssh -XY (kde help please)
[04:37] <ggreer> jrr: this is why apple can get away with such things but ubuntu can't (although I think ubuntu hid even more UI config options than OS X does)
[04:37] <N00bish> ive used debian before
[04:37] <jrr> osx at least lets you move the friggin bar
[04:38] <N00bish> notlistening: thanks. is kubuntu a good choice do you think?
[04:38] <urlin2u> enovativ_, this link tells you ones that work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[04:38] <jrr> this wouldn't be terrible with a pair of identical monitors centered at my desk
[04:38] <N00bish> ive used gnome and debian before on the same hardware and been fine
[04:38] <notlistening> Unity should have been developed and then integrated rather than the other way around
[04:38] <jrr> but I have a monster 24" centered and an old smaller one to the left
[04:38] <enovativ_> urlin2u, thank you
[04:38] <ggreer> jrr: solution: buy a 27" monitor and ditch the 24" and old small one :)
[04:38] <urlin2u> enovativ_, no problem hope that gets you going.
[04:39] <jrr> ggreer: I totally want to
[04:39] <jrr> moar pixels!
[04:39] <jrr> 1920x1200 just ain't enough
[04:39] <ggreer> and they say money can't buy happiness :)
[04:40] <mia> mia
[04:40] <aaron_> hello i have a questions with my partitions for example this is what i have on my partitions http://pastebin.com/MG2FgBJx but i cannot either boot my windows partition can someone help me please to fix this error
[04:40] <aaron_> i open gparted and for example it says file system unknown
[04:41] <anadon> I need help getting regular unity to work.  I can't get it to a usable state.  Unity 2D is working, though.
[04:41] <escott> aaron_, what in the world is an SFS partition
[04:41] <somsip> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-certifying_File_System
[04:41] <King_Ozzy> aaron_ I don't see a windows partition
[04:41] <somsip> possibly...
[04:41] <aaron_> King_Ozzy, yeah the partition is /dev/sda1
[04:42] <aaron_> and sda3
[04:42] <escott> aaron_, 42 SFS (Secure Filesystem  SFS is an encrypted filesystem driver for DOS on 386+ PCs, written by Peter Gutmann.
[04:42] <Zenonii> Hello, I have some seemingly major problems with the install, and more
[04:42] <aaron_> so I'm stuck with out windows now?
[04:42] <escott> aaron_, also listed as a Windows 2000 dynamic extended partiton marker
[04:43] <escott> aaron_, looks like you have some really weird windows configuration. it can probably be booted but you need to figure out how it is done
[04:43] <King_Ozzy> you probably installed things in the wrong order to dualboot
[04:43] <aaron_> right of course and i'm stock with out a windows 7 64 bit
[04:43] <aaron_> ;*(
[04:43] <aaron_> iso
[04:44] <King_Ozzy> always do your research before installing things willynilly
[04:44] <Zenonii> if anyone is directing speech to me, I can't tell
[04:44] <King_Ozzy> hi Zenonii
[04:44] <Zenonii> Hi
[04:44] <aaron_> lol true that ;)
[04:44] <Zenonii> My problem is complex... to me...lol
[04:44] <Zenonii> MAC os 10,5.8  Dual Mirror Door G4 Single 1.25 Gig processor
[04:44] <escott> aaron_, http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/138951-sfs-partition-windows-7-key.html
[04:44] <Zenonii> 4 hd
[04:44] <geoffmcc> aaron_: wait, what happened
[04:44] <ggreer> Zenonii: that's old school
[04:45] <King_Ozzy> well there's your problem Zenonii, it's a Mac :-p
[04:45] <Zenonii> yes, which is why I'm using ubuntu
[04:45] <Zenonii> I've never had a problem with a mac, ever.
[04:45] <Zenonii> I have many with my pc
[04:45] <King_Ozzy> ok I won't get into it
[04:46] <Zenonii> I had ubuntu running on it already
[04:46] <escott> aaron_, this seems a bit more detailed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1653493
[04:46] <ggreer> hmm... ubuntu runs on ppc? I have an old ibook... hmm...
[04:46] <Zenonii> what is that?
[04:46] <aaron_> ty escott
[04:46] <Zenonii> ubuntu runs easier on a mac, than a pc
[04:47] <Zenonii> my problem is not ubuntu
[04:47] <Zenonii> it is specific mac issues
[04:47] <King_Ozzy> ^
[04:47] <Zenonii> on recognizing the cd, or maybe I did not burn it correctly
[04:49] <Zenonii> is this the correct room, or is there another
[04:49] <geoffmcc> !mac | Zenonii
[04:49] <Zenonii> I've read it
[04:49] <Zenonii> I've already installed it.
[04:49] <Zenonii> it is the new install giving me problems
[04:49] <aaron_> D HPFS - NTFS          36693 206 58 38651 238 51   31457280 [HP_RECOVERY]
[04:49] <aaron_> D FAT32 LBA            38651 238 52 38913  37 36    4196352 [HP_TOOLS]
[04:49] <aaron_> there it is
[04:49] <FloodBot1> aaron_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:49] <aaron_> ;)
[04:49] <aaron_> sorry about that
[04:50] <ggreer> Zenonii: try a known-good CD?
[04:50] <King_Ozzy> aaron_ put that stuff in pastebin
[04:50] <aaron_> ok
[04:50] <el-plum> looking for an easy umbutu windows enviroment download
[04:50] <aaron_> http://pastebin.com/KtxpMn4T
[04:50] <Zenonii> Yes, but before I go into the specifics, probably I need to talk with someone who knows macs
[04:50] <jrr> okay, I just tried stock gnome, and it's even weirder than unity
[04:51] <jrr> the task launching/switching bar isn't on my left monitor - arguable an improvement - but it's also gone entirely
[04:51] <Zenonii> the numbers above, what are they, are they somethign I need
[04:51] <geoffmcc> Zenonii: it was for someone else
[04:52] <Zenonii> k
[04:52] <el-plum> looking for an easy umbutu windows enviroment download
[04:52] <geoffmcc> Zenonii: from what i gathered your haveing cd rom trouble, but yea i dont know anything about mac, so i didnt probe further, sorry.
[04:52] <somsip> !repeat | el-plum
[04:52] <Zenonii> No, not cd trouble
[04:53] <somsip> kama
[04:53] <Zenonii> something in the architecture itself... it is probably simple, but I am not getting it
[04:55] <Zenonii> is there a ubuntu room that has mac users?
[04:56] <King_Ozzy> idk, do /list
[04:57] <Zenonii> is it  'ty escott,' or 'escott'
[04:58] <escott> !alis | Zenonii not familiar with any mac room
[04:59] <tttuuu> hi. what is the conventional place to save a downloaded package?
[04:59] <DasEi> tttuuu: ~/Downloads ?
[04:59] <escott> tttuuu, anything you install manually should be installed to /usr/local or /opt
[04:59] <DasEi> can have it wherever you want
[05:00] <IdleWarship> I've got a simple ruby script that puts strings out into the terminal; what can I put into those strings to colorize them?
[05:00] <escott> IdleWarship, you probably want to look into the curses library, as dumping escape characters out is not good practice
[05:00] <mebigfatguy> help restarted 11.10 due to upgrades and now it goes straight to memtest. only option is to reboot which just infinite loops. how to fix
[05:00] <DasEi> IdleWarship: maybe #RubyObRails ?
[05:00] <omid> what is the best 64 bit web browser
[05:01] <DasEi> On*
[05:01] <tttuuu> escott, should I just stick them into /usr/local or create an additional directory inside /usr/local to put the downloads?
[05:01] <King_Ozzy> omid define "the best"
[05:01] <omid> i'm installing opera
[05:01] <DasEi> omid: best is a poll, the likings go chromium, ff and many more as I Knew
[05:01] <DasEi> omid: which purpose ? footprint ? addons ?
[05:02] <escott> tttuuu, traditionally /opt has one directory per application /opt/oracle or /opt/mathematica or /opt/big_monolithic_folder_for_app whereas /usr/local tends to mirror a normal hierarchy /usr/local/bin /usr/local/lib etc
[05:02] <_Nano> Anyone used xen-hypervisor-4.1 on ubuntu 11.10
[05:03] <tttuuu> thanks escott!
[05:03] <_Nano> I'm still stuck on kernel switching =/ I think it may be something to do with my host...
[05:03] <escott> tttuuu, for whatever reason /opt seems to be less popular these days although i think it makes more sense than /usr/local
[05:05] <tttuuu> escott, so how can I tell something should belong to /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/lib?
[05:06] <rumpel> tttuuu, i would say: if it's a library, it should be in lib.  (?)
[05:07] <tttuuu> rumpel, how can I tell if a package is a library or not?
[05:07] <escott> tttuuu, what is the package
[05:07] <tttuuu> Django
[05:08] <rumpel> tttuuu, what are you trying to do exactly?
[05:08] <mebigfatguy> how do i get out of endless memtest86 startup loop
[05:08] <escott> tttuuu, Django would probably be considered a library. there is probably a version of django in apt
[05:09] <ThinkPadG40> Hello, I'm wondering if there is a way to make tleds use the CAPS key instead of the SCROLL key?
[05:09] <escott> ThinkPadG40, what is tleds?
[05:09] <maum> how can I install opengl on ubuntu?
[05:10] <OldOneEye> what is the best windows machine to install
[05:10] <omid> DasEi, i've heared that the only web browser which has a "real" 64 bit edition is IE
[05:10] <omid> is it correct?
[05:10] <DaZ> define real :f
[05:10] <ThinkPadG40> escott: a network traffic monitor that flashes keyboard lights indicating network traffic, NUM for incoming and SCROLL for outbound
[05:10] <escott> ThinkPadG40, check the man page for that application
[05:11] <DasEi> omid : not right
[05:11] <DasEi> omid: mostly it's about issues with plugins
[05:11] <ThinkPadG40> escott: ok, will try, thnx not use to having a distro with a good "man
[05:12] <naptastic> Hi. I'm setting up netboot on my home network. My client stops responding after loading some of the init scripts. I know it's a corner use case, but can anyone help me troubleshoot this?
[05:13] <keshavkuruva> Hi
[05:13] <omid> 2 days ago i was using 32bit ubuntu and then people here told me its better to go 64 bit right now i've installed 64 bit and i dont feel any performance improvement ,plus i think there are fewer software in the app center.i cannot install some software without having to install lots of 32bit dependency crap and sometimes remove some packages.
[05:13] <ThinkPadG40> escott: It doesn't mention anything of the kind in the man page
[05:14] <ThinkPadG40> escott: It wouldn't be that big of a deal if my old ThinkPad had a scroll lock LED
[05:14] <keshavkuruva> anyone faced issue of ffi_lib not working properly on ubuntu 11.10   ....Could not open library 'ncursesw': ncursesw: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. (LoadError)
[05:14] <escott> ThinkPadG40, its possible that this application calls out to xleds or some other application to do the work of causing the flashes. if so you could modify it. see if the program is a script by less `which tleds`
[05:14] <keshavkuruva> trying damn hard to fix this issue with ruby on my system
[05:14] <keshavkuruva> ncursesw
[05:14] <keshavkuruva> ubuntu 11.10 has some issues with it
[05:15] <keshavkuruva> whereas ubuntu 11.04 is fine
[05:15] <RokcStar> xubuntu runs so much better than ubuntu
[05:15] <DaZ> omid: 64bit software uses a bit more of ram even :F
[05:15] <omid> DaZ,  you mean i better use 32bit ?
[05:15] <rumpel> omid, if you have 64bit architecture, why not use it?
[05:15] <keshavkuruva> https://github.com/ffi/ffi/issues/168
[05:16] <naptastic> omid, You may be able to get the software you're looking for by installing ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[05:16] <DaZ> dunnolol, i switched only when i had more than 3gb of ram.
[05:16] <the_misfit> im working my way through the internets seeing about mounting/recognize a SDHC card
[05:16] <naptastic> omid, it will give you the Flash plugin, and some other things that are hard to get otherwise.
[05:16] <RokcStar> i have 64bit of xubuntu and even youtube videos run much smoother on it- even when im running windows 7 and another xubuntu virtual on VirtualBox
[05:17] <DaZ> meh, getting html5 on youtube is much less effort
[05:17] <naptastic> I haven't used 32 bit on a 64 bit architecture in years except in emergencies... but it took me a long time to get to this point.
[05:17] <ThinkPadG40> escott: It's not a script, i used which and it said /usr/bin/tleds and I catted it and i was mostly VT100 garbage
[05:17] <keshavkuruva> can anyone help in resolving this issue https://github.com/ffi/ffi/issues/168
[05:17] <RokcStar> DaZ which browser do you use to load html5 video tags on youtube?
[05:18] <maum> how can I install opengl? I installed freeglut3, freeglut3-dev but there are some errors. checking for -lGLU... no, checking for -lMesaGL... no, configure: error: OpenGL libraries not available. I don't know why
[05:18] <RokcStar> i thought only hrome supported html5 m4a files
[05:18] <RokcStar> Chrome
[05:18] <DaZ> opera.
[05:19] <RokcStar> hmmm ok
[05:19] <escott> ThinkPadG40, this is likely to be a simple program. its a good learning experience to learn to modify and compile it to do what you want it to
[05:19] <RokcStar> it sucks firefox doesnt support m4a files
[05:20] <deper29> hey guys, I'm wondering if someone can help me get my sound working on my TV. I'm trying to use this guide, but it isn't working http://www.geoffke.be/nieuws/5/
[05:20] <ThinkPadG40> escott: I have no programming experience outside of the Commodore 64, C and most other laguages are greek to me
[05:20] <naptastic> maum, Do you have these installed? libgl1-mesa-glx, libgl1-mesa-dri ?
[05:21] <OldOneEye> how do i install a windows virtual machine
[05:21] <the_misfit> !vbox | OldOneEye
[05:21] <maum> naptastic: yes
[05:21] <escott> maum, you want to be installing drivers for your graphics card. run jockey-gtk to install proprietary drivers
[05:22] <RokcStar> just dont run vbox files off the same drive.. :)
[05:22] <maum> escott: I want to build the wxpython source code with opengl on ubuntu 11.10
[05:22] <naptastic> Ah!
[05:22] <naptastic> maum, you need libopengl-python or similar
[05:23] <naptastic> maum, I don't know the exact package name
[05:23] <maum> ok I will search it
[05:23] <tttuuu> I'm trying to "wget http://www.djangoproject.com/download/1.3.1/tarball/", but it's always saving the result as index.html instead of file.tar.gz
[05:23] <tttuuu> how can I make wget save as tar.gz?
[05:24] <mebigfatguy> i cant boot 3.0 linux in 11.10... just 2.6   just get solid purple... any ideas ?
[05:24] <milamber> tttuuu: the complete file name /tarball/<package>.tar.gz
[05:24] <deper29> anyone able to help?
[05:24] <RokcStar> can wget do that?
[05:24] <escott> tttuuu, you need to specify the file you want wget to download wget http://.../tarball/what_is_the_filename.tar.gz
[05:24] <somsip> tttuuu: download a tar.gz file
[05:24] <soreau> tttuuu: If you're sure it's a gzipped tarball, you can use wget -O name-of-file.ext
[05:24] <ThinkPadG40> tttuuu: maybe because you're specifying a web page like an FTP index as opposed to the actual filename
[05:24] <h4ckm3> wget is bada**
[05:24] <RokcStar> woa cool
[05:24] <RokcStar> i didnt know it can archive
[05:24] <h4ckm3> you can download entire websites with that
[05:24] <RokcStar> could*
[05:24] <tttuuu> but guys if you go to http://www.djangoproject.com/download/1.3.1/tarball/ in a web browser, it *is* the tar.gz
[05:24] <maum> naptastic: there is python-opengl but there is still error.
[05:25] <ThinkPadG40> tttuuu: then just save it with the browser?
[05:25] <gunfire007> i am unable to enable compiz pls some one can guide me to start it ?
[05:25] <escott> tttuuu, then its redirecting you. where does index.html redirect to?
[05:26] <DaZ> tttuuu: it isn't.
[05:26] <tttuuu> escott, when I edit index.html I can see that it is the tar.gz, I should just rename it
[05:26] <escott> mebigfatguy, is this purple grub or purple ubuntu splash screen?
[05:26] <tttuuu> but does anyone know if wget has an automatic save-as filename option?
[05:26] <tttuuu> I can't seem to find it
[05:26] <DaZ> it redirects to http://media.djangoproject.com/releases/1.3/Django-1.3.1.tar.gz :f
[05:27] <naptastic> maum, try these: libgl1-mesa-dev, libglu1-mesa-dev
[05:27] <maum> naptastic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/771879/
[05:27] <escott> tttuuu, when you request over http://some/path/ it is implied that you are getting index.html
[05:27] <maum> naptastic: i did but there is still....
[05:27] <milamber> tttuuu: if you look at the source of the index file it will probably tell you where it redirects to also
[05:28] <escott> tttuuu, http://www.ubuntu.com/ becomes http://www.ubuntu.com/index.html when the request is made
[05:28] <naptastic> maum, also install mesa-common-dev
[05:28] <naptastic> maum, (sorry, I'm looking all this up as I go.)
[05:29] <escott> tttuuu, in any case the option to set the filename is -O but index.html is the name of the file you request (you just didn't know that was what you requested)
[05:29] <sweetofserbia> Witch software is for making video?
[05:29] <maum> naptastic: I did but there is still error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/771881/
[05:29] <tttuuu> escott, I get it! thanks!
[05:30] <naptastic> maum, perhaps you should ask in #python... they may know more about the libraries you need. I'm out of ideas. :-(
[05:30] <maum> ok
[05:30] <maum> thanks
[05:31] <mebigfatguy1> i am unable to boot 11.10 using kernel 3.0, it works fine with 2.6.  I get solid purple screen. My video is GeForce FX 5200   .... any ideas how to fix?
[05:31] <drdoomy> testing out 12.04 here
[05:31] <drdoomy> sofware center works now
[05:32] <soreau> ! 12.04
[05:33] <keshavkuruva> ffi_lib and libncurses issues on ubuntu 11.10
[05:33] <keshavkuruva> /home/robbiemu/bin/lib/ruby/gems/1.9.1/gems/ffi-1.0.10/lib/ffi/library.rb:121:in  `block in ffi_lib': Could not open library 'ncursesw': ncursesw: cannot  open shared object file: No such file or directory. (LoadError)
[05:39] <escott> !modeset | mebigfatguy
[05:39] <escott> !nomodeset | mebigfatguy
[05:40] <mebigfatguy1> thanks...looking
[05:44] <guest-3RFaqW> hi guys, linux newb with the most basic of questions, could someone give me an assist?
[05:44] <urlin2u> !ask
[05:45] <guest-3RFaqW> i managed to forget my password
[05:45] <Spartacus`> IDIOTS.
[05:45] <Spartacus`> asdas;fjdasf
[05:45] <Spartacus`> dsfas
[05:45] <Spartacus`> gas
[05:45] <Spartacus`> gas
[05:45] <guest-3RFaqW> but i have written down that enormous numeric code
[05:45] <FloodBot1> Spartacus`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:45] <guest-3RFaqW> where do i put that in?
[05:45] <urlin2u> guest-3RFaqW, you encrypted
[05:45] <Spartacus`> lol, gay.
[05:45] <urlin2u> !ops
[05:46] <jagaldol> 음?
[05:46] <jagaldol> 댄건가!
[05:46] <tavelram> Im having trouble installing 11.10 via live usb on eee 901. After installing, i can't login, it claims that my password is invalid. guest account works. /home is empty.
[05:46] <guest-3RFaqW> so i should look for password reset help online instead?
[05:46] <guest-3RFaqW> that encryption code wont help
[05:46] <guest-3RFaqW> ?
[05:46] <urlin2u> guest-3RFaqW, are you encrypted?
[05:47] <guest-3RFaqW> yessir
[05:47] <urlin2u> guest-3RFaqW, you can get help here but I don't know ant method.
[05:47] <urlin2u> any*
[05:48] <urlin2u> tavelram, home is empty how do you know?
[05:48] <guest-3RFaqW> hmmm. ok, well reminding me that it was encryption may give me a better google search to start with
[05:49] <tavelram> urlin2u, i mount the partition from the live cd. Or did ecrypt put the file somwhere else?
[05:49] <chrobi> good evening all
[05:49] <urlin2u> tavelram, the home wont mount if encrypted, as far as getting in not sure.
[05:49] <godofmischief> I was screwing with compiz and something i changed disabled me when i put the mouse pointer in the bottom left of the screen displaying all 4 works spaces
[05:50] <godofmischief> anyone got any clue as to what did that?
[05:50] <tavelram> urlin2u, ok, and ecrypt isn't supposed to be in /home/.ecryptfs then?
[05:50] <urlin2u> godofmischief, what release and desktop
[05:50] <mebigfatguy> bummer all nomodeset did for me was give me a black screen with blinking cursor
[05:50] <urlin2u> tavelram, an encrypted home is not supposed to mount in general.
[05:51] <urlin2u> tavelram, from a live cd or thumb or another OS.
[05:51] <tavelram> urlin2u, ok
[05:51] <tavelram> ok
[05:51] <godofmischief> urlin2u, ubuntu 11.10 unity with cairo dock running
[05:52] <guest-3RFaqW> (thanks urlin, HAGN)
[05:53] <urlin2u> godofmischief, you can have the cube is that your goal, unity is a plugin in compiz you have to be careful, there are a ton of websites to nstruct you. If you want to reset the desktop run unity --reset
[05:53] <urlin2u> instruct*
[05:53] <tavelram> urlin2u, is my account supposed to show in /etc/passwd and shadow?
[05:53] <godofmischief> urlin2u, what's the specific command to reset unity that sounds like a good idea.
[05:53] <urlin2u> tavelram, not sure to tell you the truth.
[05:54] <urlin2u> godofmischief, yep.
[05:54] <blind> Hi, I'm ssh'd into my computer and I want to start an app that has a gui, and the command line says it can't open display, which I kind of understand. How can I tell it what display to launch to?
[05:54] <urlin2u> godofmischief, you may need to rebbot most likely afterwards
[05:54] <godofmischief> urlin2u, i was being seirous, idk thoug, sudo apt-get install unity --reset?
[05:54] <yxtex> When building a debian package with specific library version of qt, how come package-name (>=4.7) doesn't get honored?  Is that the wrong syntax?
[05:54] <urlin2u> reboot*
[05:54] <rumpel> blind, using the DISPLAY variable
[05:55] <blind> DISPLAY=0 appname  ?
[05:55] <urlin2u> godofmischief, no sudo just unity --reset I believe
[05:55] <sweetofserbia> Good morning rumpel, can you say me please good software for making a video?
[05:55] <chrobi> i got a script that i call from dhcp oncommit with excute.   I made sure to fork the script so dhcp is not waiting on the script to return, but dhcp seems to be looping through the oncommit part of the script.  If i didnt unset the set var's could that cause the looping?
[05:55] <urlin2u> godofmischief, no apt-get either
[05:55] <rumpel> blind, more like DISLPAY=:0.0   (or similar)
[05:55] <rumpel> sweetofserbia, sorry, never done that.
[05:55] <godofmischief> urlin2u, so sudo unity --reset
[05:55] <godofmischief> hrrm
[05:56] <chrobi> *script = dhcpd.conf
[05:56] <urlin2u> godofmischief, NO unity --reset is all you t=run.
[05:56] <sweetofserbia> Ok  rumpel, thank you. :)
[05:56] <urlin2u> run*
[05:57] <hope> hey
[05:58] <chrobi> hola
[05:58] <rumpel> blind, i used "export DISPLAY=:0"  and "export XAUTHORITY=/home/username/.Xauthority" in a script of mine. That should cover it.
[05:59] <blind> It would appear as though DISPLAY=:0.0 appname  worked fine.
[06:00] <rumpel> blind, you probably would need the Xauthority, if you login using a different user than the current desktop user.
[06:00] <keshavkuruva> https://github.com/ffi/ffi/issues/168
[06:00] <blind> Alright, thanks for the info. But there's only one user.
[06:00] <keshavkuruva> https://github.com/seanohalpin/ffi-ncurses/issues/7
[06:01] <blind> and I'm also not doing this very often.. just this once
[06:02] <godofmischief> great that damn near did nothing other then cause me to reboot.
[06:03] <keshavkuruva> is there any ubuntu tech to support this issue https://github.com/seanohalpin/ffi-ncurses/issues/7
[06:03] <godofmischief> compiz is the biggest peice of garbage, you change one thing and causes 30 confilicts then by the time your done nothing works like it used to and you can't figure out what's wrong to return it to the way it was
[06:03] <godofmischief> anyway to reset compiz settings?
[06:04] <grape_> where is the best place to download wine? and am i correct in that it lets you run windows programs without partitioning your harddrive
[06:04] <urlin2u> hmm I mentioned the reboot look on the web
[06:04] <urlin2u> grape_, wine is in the repo's
[06:05] <urlin2u> grape_, some windows things will run not everything though.
[06:05] <grape_> urlin2u_ thanks
[06:05] <rumpel> grape_, the best place is always your package manager
[06:06] <grape_> okay, do you think drivers for a 5 year old aiptek video camera will? im just wondering how far reaching it is
[06:07] <rumpel> grape_, wine tries(!) to translate windows-api-requests to the linux api. Windows drivers won't work with wine.
[06:07] <urlin2u> godofmischief, try unity --replace then reboot
[06:07] <chrobi> urlin2u i take it your not much on the dchp server stuff
[06:07] <mrguser> ubuntu
[06:08] <rumpel> grape_, just plug the cam in and look, if linux has already the needed drivers installed.
[06:08] <urlin2u> chrobi, not really.
[06:08] <godofmischief> urlin2u, sure why not at this point im frustrated, everytime i get things to working like i want the smallest thing throws things into a massive train wreck lets get it
[06:08] <grape_> rumpel_ oh so if there aren't linux drivers, im screwed. I plugged in the cam but I do know how to see it already has the needed linux drivers
[06:09] <rumpel> grape_, install "cheese" and use it for testing.
[06:09] <chrobi> :) its all good
[06:10] <chrobi> l8rs
[06:11] <urlin2u> godofmischief, you can reset compiz with compiz --replace as well if it goes south on you, as I said there are web pages that tell you what is up with compiz and unity you don't want top just go wilee-nilee adjusting it, unity is a plugin there.
[06:12] <godofmischief> and none of that made any difference.
[06:13] <urlin2u> godofmischief, here is the one I use originally read carefully, it applies to oneiric.  http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/howto-get-the-compiz-desktop-cube-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-and-unity/
[06:13] <godofmischief> with cairo dock running all my desktop are still all in a row up and down, no more left right up down with ctrl + alt
[06:13] <godofmischief> i loved the ways the windows would fly in left right up and down
[06:14] <urlin2u> godofmischief, the link is for getting the cube, probably not what you want it sounds like.
[06:15] <xtgyal> Hello if I want to change the write permissions of Apache's /var/www folder, can I use "sudo chown myusername /var/www" ?  the folder is owned by root as default, changing the ownership won't affect its security yes?
[06:16] <blind> Okay, some more help if I could, or point me to the right place.. Trying to set up a vncserver remotely via ssh, and the server it appears is running, but the viewer can't connect?
[06:16] <rasusto> does anyone know how to get the fade effect on the selection box (click and drag on the desktop) like in the new ubuntu? I think its a compiz setting somewhere
[06:16] <godofmischief> urlin2u, correct, i just did a compiz reset that says to follow with the unity reset, we shall see i suppose.
[06:16] <rasusto> xtgyal you want that folder too be owned by root, apache runs as root
[06:17] <godofmischief> my terminal window is not yet done stopped after setting update "run_key" just sitting there
[06:17] <xtgyal> I want to be able to copy & paste files from Ubuntu's GUI file explorer, I cannot do that presently since I don't own the folder
[06:17] <godofmischief> soon after it finishes i should reboot again maybe things will be like they were before i touched it lol
[06:17] <urlin2u> godofmischief, did you run unity --replace
[06:17] <godofmischief> urlin2u, that seemd to do nothing
[06:17] <rasusto> xtgyal sudo nautilus
[06:18] <Lasers> gksu nautilus
[06:18] <urlin2u> godofmischief, you need to reboot to see the work done.
[06:18] <xtgyal> what does nautilus do?
[06:18] <xtgyal> I am new to Ubuntu sorry
[06:18] <rumpel> rasusto, "sudo nautilus" is no good idea. Use gksudo.
[06:18] <urlin2u> godofmischief, the refresh in the desktop and compiz is well not so good.
[06:18] <godofmischief> urlin2u, ive since rebooted, from taht, waiting on this most recent reset command, then i'll so unity --reset again
[06:18] <xtgyal> what's gksudo?
[06:18] <gunfire007> how to save the setting of compiz /
[06:18] <rasusto> nautilus is the file browser, gksu is a better way to do it, like Lasers said. it runs the file browser as root
[06:19] <urlin2u> xtgyal, the graphic sudo
[06:19] <gunfire007> every time i restart the computer settings are lost
[06:19] <xtgyal> it's a program I open?
[06:19] <rumpel> xtgyal, a wrapper that makes it more secure using it. Otherwise you could get into trouble like blocking yourself out of your desktop.
[06:19] <Lasers> rasusto: What directory are you trying to copy/paste to?
[06:19] <Lasers> Err, xtgyal ^^