[14:59] <thafreak> Morning Ohio
[15:00] <paultag> heyya the
[15:00] <paultag> heyya thafreak
[15:00] <thafreak> what's going on
[15:00] <paultag> thafreak: nada, brotato
[15:00] <yano> good morning
[15:00] <yano> http://i.imgur.com/bG2zs.jpg
[15:00] <paultag> thafreak: what's new with you?
[15:00] <paultag> heyya yano
[15:01] <yano> hello
[15:01] <thafreak> nice
[15:07] <thafreak> Anyone remember the links that went around the ML from smk about how to keep oracle java on a machine?
[15:07] <thafreak> Or actually
[15:07] <thafreak> has anyone used openjdk with eclipse + android dev plugin?
[15:08] <thafreak> I need to setup a dev desktop for some student to use
[15:44] <_bbb> i installed it once when i was trying to find fastboot bin
[16:13] <thafreak> You know if it runs ok with openjdk?
[16:15] <_bbb> sorry fell asleep
[16:15] <_bbb> cant recall but i was likely using sun
[16:16] <thafreak> well, google it is then
[16:18]  * canthus13 yawns.
[16:20]  * _bbb tosses peanuts
[16:21] <canthus13> Oh wow.  AOL did that a few years back.
[16:23] <_bbb> dark fruit and fiber
[16:23] <paultag> ha!
[16:25] <paultag> thafreak: that's my buddy's site :)
[16:26] <thafreak> does he work for sunlight too? :)
[16:26] <paultag> thafreak: nack, http://mako.cc/
[16:26] <thafreak> oh...is that morgan?
[16:26] <paultag> nah, benjamin mako hill
[16:26] <paultag> founded ubuntu and stuff
[16:26] <thafreak> oh that mako
[16:26] <paultag> yep, not maco
[16:27] <thafreak> i have one of his books
[16:27] <paultag> he writes well
[16:27] <thafreak> never really read it all the way
[16:27] <thafreak> got it for learning about the ubuntu community in preparation to try to take the LPI ubuntu cert
[16:27] <thafreak> which doesn't even exist now
[16:27] <paultag> haha
[16:28] <_bbb> yeah not sure i see the value in that
[16:28] <thafreak> yep
[16:28] <_bbb> im gonna go for vmware certification this year
[16:28] <thafreak> i think it had a cd with the first LTS release in it too
[16:28] <thafreak> _bbb: yeah, saw you were listing certs like crazy on linkedin
[16:28] <paultag> I don't have a single cert
[16:29] <paultag> and I don't think I ever will
[16:29] <paultag> I can't stand the idea, personally
[16:29] <thafreak> well, I'm behind LPI atleast...
[16:29] <thafreak> it's community written
[16:30] <paultag> mmm
[16:30] <thafreak> but yeah, certs are kinda silly
[16:30] <thafreak> i'm kind of over sysadmin stuff for work anyway
[16:31] <_bbb> well i got no degree so
[16:31] <_bbb> need some filler up there heh
[16:31] <_bbb> actually i just steamlined my linkedin a bit
[16:33]  * canthus13 really needs to study up and get his LPI.
[16:34] <canthus13> paultag: A lot of recruiters grep app databases for cert names...
[16:34] <paultag> lolwut
[16:34] <paultag> not any good ones ;)
[16:34] <canthus13> paultag: It's a starting point.
[16:34] <thafreak> i fucking hate recruiters
[16:35] <canthus13> obviously that's not the only criteria, but it narrows the field a lot when you have 10k apps to dig through.
[16:35] <canthus13> s/apps/resumes
[16:35]  * canthus13 needs caffeine. :P
[16:38] <_bbb> i just want my company to pay for it..
[16:40]  * canthus13 just wants a job where he's not dealing with the average ISP customer. :/
[18:56] <_bbb> i know that feeling
[18:56] <_bbb> NO! RIGHT CLICK!
[18:57] <Unit193> Nothing happend.
[18:57] <_bbb> i dont miss those days heh
[18:57] <Unit193> It don't work, can you fix it now?
[18:58] <Unit193> Still have family members, don't you?
[18:59] <_bbb> one of my first tech just was dial up tech support for small isp
[18:59] <_bbb> err
[18:59] <_bbb> s/just/jobs
[19:15] <thafreak> http://digitizor.com/2012/02/22/adobe-flash-linux-chrome/
[19:15] <thafreak> so no more flash in firefox for linux users?
[19:15] <thafreak> Kinda lame
[19:15] <Unit193> 0_o
[19:15] <thafreak> atleast it's still in chromium
[19:16] <thafreak> or chrome i guess
[19:16] <thafreak> not sure what that means for chromium
[19:16] <Unit193> Who cares about those, I use firefox.
[19:18] <canthus13> thafreak: Since 7.0, firefox has decided that it's running on a freaking cellphone, and requests the WAP version whenever possible. :/
[19:18] <canthus13> on 3 of my machines, anyway.
[19:18] <Unit193> thafreak: 12 isn't doing me too bad, but they don't need to be doing some things they are doing.
[19:18] <Unit193> I have never gotten the WAP mismatch...
[19:19] <canthus13> I can never avoid it, and can't find any settings that would fix that. :/
[19:19] <canthus13> I finally gave up and switched to chrome.
[19:19] <canthus13> (Or chromium...)


[13:22] <Spass[m]> any specific date known for the 18.04.3 point release?
[14:19] <bluesabre> Spass[m]: August 8th
[14:21] <Spass[m]> cool, thanks
[19:57] <Unit193> bluesabre: Looks like you never got to packaging while I was gone?
[19:58] <bluesabre> Unit193: actually back to it right now... and it's good you're here, because I have a question :)
[20:00] <bluesabre> Unit193: since xfpanel-switch has a new upstream/project name... is this acceptable? Or do I create an xfce4-panel-profiles package and break/replace to it https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Yprqy89SHp/
[20:03] <Unit193> I'd rename the source package to xfce4-panel-profiles, adding the transitional package.
[20:04] <bluesabre> alrighty
[20:05] <bluesabre> And don't worry about the other packages, I'll get them uploaded today (tomorrow latest)
[20:07] <Unit193> When you're done with xfce4-panel-profiles, toss me a dsc to upload.
[20:07] <bluesabre> oh yeah
[20:07] <bluesabre> you're a motu
[20:07] <bluesabre> that's handy :D
[20:07] <Unit193> A bit!
[20:07] <Unit193> I only left you about 4, and two of them are your babies. :>
[20:09] <bluesabre> Yeah, noticed you were pretty generous :)
[20:13] <Unit193> Eh, you do way more upstream work so I call it even (at best.)  After that, we'll have to either file a removal bug or poke someone, then it'll be finished.
[20:20] <ochosi> awesome packaging work, folks
[20:21] <Unit193> Everything is backported for disco too.
[20:25] <ochosi> \o/
[20:40] <Unit193> Maybe I should start working on the Debian side of things too. :/
[21:09] <bluesabre> Unit193: I seem to be missing something, dh_auto_install fails after adding the transition package, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4vTXDzbJ2x/
[21:09] <bluesabre> Guessing I need an install file or something to tell everything to go into the xfce4-panel-switch packge?
[21:10] <bluesabre> s/switch/plugins
[21:10] <Unit193> dh_auto_install → dh_auto_install --destdir=$(DESTDIR)
[21:11] <Unit193> With one package, it does that automatically.  When you add a second then everything goes into debian/tmp/
[21:11] <bluesabre> ahaaaaaaa
[21:12] <bluesabre> Sure enough, sanity restored
[21:21] <bluesabre> Thanks Unit193, https://launchpad.net/~bluesabre/+archive/ubuntu/sponsoring/+sourcefiles/xfce4-panel-profiles/1.0.9-0ubuntu1/xfce4-panel-profiles_1.0.9-0ubuntu1.dsc
[21:21] <bluesabre> Gotta run out for a bit, but will bbabl
[21:24] <Unit193> out-of-date-standards-version 4.3.0 (released 2018-12-23) (current is 4.4.0)  but this doesn't matter too much here.
[21:24] <bluesabre> oh wow, eoan is behind then :O
[21:26] <Unit193> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/435835638/xfce4-panel-profiles_1.0.9-0ubuntu1_source.changes
[21:27] <bluesabre> Nice!
[23:51] <bluesabre> New package versions of catfish and mugshot pushed to salsa