[11:37] <Intruder> will my SQL DB be same m8
[11:37] <Intruder> I have verihub running on the machine
[11:37] <selaiah> NG / jond3rd: Is Sudo exactly the same as su? Cause im having problems with my frostwire install and they suggest  su -c "sed -i 's/\r$//' /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh"  - but when I type that with sudo instead it tells me -c is an invalid argument =p
[11:37] <scheuri> Intruder: that command does only reinstall all the graphical stuff...or actually reconfgure it
[11:37] <Intruder> ok
[11:37] <Ng> selaiah: do the sudo -i first, then the command that's in double quotes
[11:38] <fantazia> selaiah: try "whatis sudo" and "whatis su"
[11:38] <Jimmey__> I want a text mode Dapper install CD - which is that?
[11:38] <luke> in my "Places" menu, it shows "Desktop Folder|Desktop" instead of just "Desktop"
[11:38] <scheuri> Intruder: it should not change any of the other services
[11:38] <jond3rd> selaiah: no, su is switch user while sudo is "do this as root" thinge
[11:38] <Intruder> ok trying now
[11:38] <luke> how do I truncate my firestarter "Policy" log thing
[11:38] <fantazia> noone uses wpa on ubuntu?
[11:38] <Jimmey__> jond3rd: "su" means "super user", so you can log in as root
[11:39] <scheuri> Intruder: make sure that you ctrl-alt-backspace after reconfigure to restart X-server
[11:39] <w^x> yeah
[11:39] <Jimmey__> selaiah: your command would be sudo "sed....."
[11:39] <snidx2> is dapper also a live cd?
[11:39] <zcat[1] > su means Set UID.. root is merely the default, you can become any user..
[11:39] <jond3rd> Jimmey__: so when I do "su - Jimmey" is the same thing as saying "switch to Jimmey as suoer user"?
[11:39] <scheuri> snidx2: yes
[11:39] <Intruder> asking which package m8
[11:39] <scheuri> snidx2: if you downloaded the desktop-cd
[11:39] <Ng> jond3rd: no, it would mean switch to user Jimmey
[11:39] <selaiah> Ok thanks! It didnt fix my frostwire, but at least i have now learned how to use the root terminal =D ty ;)
[11:39] <Intruder> with this  sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[11:39] <Jimmey__> jond3rd: I think "su" brings up a login prompt for root
[11:39] <Killaz> guys I'm having probem setting up my network interfaces. The error is: Dont seem to be have all the variables for the0/inet. Failed to bring up eth0
[11:40] <snidx2> scheuri: so can i check out most of the basic features ubuntu has to offer without touching my hard drive?
[11:40] <jond3rd> Ng: that's what i'm trying to tell to Jimmey__
[11:40] <Killaz> I pasetbin my interfaces confi
[11:40] <scheuri> snidx2: absolutely correct...:)
[11:40] <Killaz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15241
[11:40] <jond3rd> Jimmey__: su without argument will use 'root'
[11:40] <Ng> jond3rd: *shrug* you asked a question, I answered it ;)
[11:40] <Jimmey__> Oh, I see.
[11:40] <Killaz> cn you tell me what's wrong?
[11:40] <AeSSeD> I'm problem with avidemux and audio
[11:40] <Jimmey__> Have the dapper text mode install .isos all disappeared ?
[11:41] <scheuri> Jimmey__: no, its the alternate-version CD
[11:41] <zcat[1] > Jimmey__: alternative
[11:41] <kakalto> Jimmey__: you mean the 'alternate installation cd' image?
[11:41] <kakalto> lol.
[11:41] <Jimmey__> Oh, thanks.
[11:41] <luke> how do I truncate my firestarter "Policy" log thing
[11:41] <Intruder> ... /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigu
[11:41] <eclair> has anyone had an experience of having something like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15120
[11:41] <Intruder> is wot i get
[11:41] <kakalto> Intruder: what are you trying to reconfigure?
[11:41] <Ng> Intruder: the command was: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:41] <Ng> you missed off the last bit
[11:41] <Killaz> hmm found the problem already :S
[11:41] <Jimmey__> Does that mean I can't any longer install a server with "server" at the boot prompt of a normal install ?
[11:42] <Intruder> ok sorry trying again
[11:42] <scheuri> ;)
[11:42] <scheuri> Ng: thanks
[11:42] <kakalto> Jimmey__: I don't believe so, as it is the _desktop_ cd, made for _desktops_. :)
[11:42] <scheuri> Jimmey__: there is a special ISO / CD for server
[11:43] <Jimmey__> Fair enough.
[11:43] <selaiah> !ubotu automatix
[11:43] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is dangerous! DO NOT use it, it has wrecked many systems. If you really insist on a script to do the work for you, consider EasyUbuntu (!easyubuntu, #easyubuntu).
[11:43] <kakalto> eclair: what is the problem?
[11:43] <scheuri> Jimmey__: basically you have three ISOs to choose from...desktop for desktops (is live CD as well), alternate for text based installer and server for...ehmm..server
[11:43] <kakalto> !easyubuntu
[11:43] <ubotu> methinks easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. Site:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/.  Channel: #easyubuntu
[11:43] <w^x> gfunk,
[11:44] <Intruder> ok this looks like wot we need but i have options x server driver newport  nsc  nv ?
[11:44] <Jimmey__> scheuri, I preferred the good old days of "install" and "live", but what can you do.
[11:44] <scheuri> Intruder: if your card is nvidia...then NV is correct
[11:44] <kakalto> Jimmey__: well, it's just the same... but the live can install too :)
[11:44] <Intruder> ok ty
[11:44] <scheuri> Jimmey__: I know, I know...I am with you...;)
[11:44] <Toma-> are there any good/new service managers in dapper? bum doesnt work too well in dapper for some reason
[11:44] <Jimmey__> kakalto: That's true - and useful, for beginners
[11:45] <gizmo_the_great> can anyone tell me how to search of the files in root (/) for a specific text string?
[11:45] <kakalto> Toma-: there's the command-line one.... sysv-rc-conf
[11:45] <gizmo_the_great> i think I need to use GREP but unsure how
[11:45] <Ng> gizmo_the_great: grep "specific text string" /
[11:45] <Jimmey__> gizmo_the_great: try "man grep"
[11:45] <eclair> kakalto: i installed kubuntu a while back and i was thinking of getting some other stuff like gaim, etc. but the thing is that in adept i checked the part manage repositories i got something similar to that
[11:45] <Ng> gizmo_the_great: add -r if you want it to look in all subdirectories too
[11:45] <Toma-> no sysv-rc-conf here
[11:45] <luke> gizmo_the_great, find / -name "string here" 2> /dev/null
[11:45] <Ng> gizmo_the_great: and -i if you want it to not care about the case of the text
[11:46] <gizmo_the_great> Ng, I was missing the -r!! Thanks - I will try that
[11:46] <javier> dd
[11:46] <Ng> luke: that will only find files named "string here"
[11:46] <makko> why don't my gtk apps get the font settings of the kde apps (i set it up that way in system settings)?
[11:46] <eclair> kakalto: in my case it's ph.ubuntu.archive.com
[11:46] <zcat[1] > find / -exec grep -l "string here" {} \;
[11:46] <Ng> makko: because gtk and kde apps use different settings
[11:46] <Ng> zcat[1] : that's quite redundant ;)
[11:47] <kakalto> eclair: I don't exactly see what the problem is
[11:47] <gizmo_the_great> luke, its the text within the files I am after, not looking for the actual files.
[11:47] <luke> ah ok gizmo
[11:47] <kakalto> eclair: perhaps I am blind
[11:47] <luke> wow, a grep -r "my password here" / returned about 20 entries...
[11:47] <zcat[1] > I think find can search for strings in files too..
[11:47] <eclair> kakalto: i can't seem to get and install other apps
[11:47] <gizmo_the_great> will -v display its progress?
[11:48] <slider2800> Hi ppl.
[11:48] <gizmo_the_great> before i kick it off
[11:48] <diazepam> hi guys - Ive just done something really stupid - does anyone know how to reset the default $PATH under dapper
[11:48] <Ng> gizmo_the_great: no, -v inverts the search operation
[11:48] <Intruder> ok asking me about keyboard layout tryed xorg and uk and gb any ideas?
[11:48] <Fujitsu> diazepam, restart the terminal>
[11:48] <gizmo_the_great> ooops - too late!!!!!
[11:48] <gizmo_the_great> its scrolling loads of stuff
[11:48] <Ng> gizmo_the_great: ctrl-c it and run it again
[11:48] <trendydark> Does anyone know how I would use esddsp in Ubuntu, like artsdsp in Kubuntu?
[11:48] <gizmo_the_great> but not sure if it;s actually fidning anything
[11:49] <gizmo_the_great> good point
[11:49] <diazepam> Fujitsu - great
[11:49] <Ng> gizmo_the_great: -v will be finding files that don't contain "some specific string"
[11:49] <gizmo_the_great> Ctrl C it now
[11:49] <diazepam> fujitsu - though i f**cked it
[11:49] <gizmo_the_great> Do'H!!
[11:49] <kakalto> eclair: well, some of the sources seem to be ignored by adept, not sure why
[11:49] <WINBALL> BitchX-75p3+Tcl2.0 by panasync - Linux 2.4.23-grsec
[11:49] <Intruder> ok sorted it used US lol
[11:49] <gizmo_the_great> Ng, you know the switch to display the output by chance?
[11:49] <gizmo_the_great> as in the progress
[11:49] <luke> man grep
[11:49] <Fujitsu> diazepam, please watch the language.
[11:49] <gizmo_the_great> will do that now
[11:50] <Ng> gizmo_the_great: I don't think it really has a progress option.
[11:50] <[nige] > !ati
[11:50] <ubotu> somebody said ati was http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[11:50] <slider2800> GRUB problem -- again. : So. i finally managed to reinstall GRUB after a win XP reinst... but now i can't boot into XP. Its like Grub is resterting itself, AND i have to overwrite some stuff to be able to boot Ubutntu... Is there any way to wipe off Grub from the HD and reinstall it? or can i do something to fix this problem?
[11:51] <eclair> kakalto: any recommendations?
[11:51] <Intruder> ok think its done do i need to reboot it???
[11:51] <scheuri> Intruder: well...ctrl-alt-backspace should be eough
[11:51] <Intruder> ok
[11:51] <kakalto> eclair: well, it says "failed to verify"... which,  I would think, could be a problem with the mirror
[11:51] <Intruder> is it supposed to drop to dos when i do that
[11:52] <Intruder> it has and asking me to login
[11:52] <scheuri> Intruder: does it stay there?
[11:52] <Fujitsu> Intruder, not DOS...
[11:52] <Intruder> u know wot i mean :D
[11:52] <kakalto> eclair: so I would remove the 'se.' before the 'archive.ubuntu.com', and replace it with, say, 'us.'... and see if it will verify then
[11:52] <Intruder> yes it does m8
[11:52] <eclair> kakalto: thanks
[11:52] <Intruder> no gui
[11:52] <kakalto> eclair: keep me posted as to whether it works :)
[11:52] <kakalto> Intruder: it's called LINUX :P
[11:52] <h3sp4wn> slider2800: look in /boot/grub/menu.lst - which partition is windows on
[11:53] <scheuri> Intruder: that is no good...
[11:53] <slider2800> one sec.
[11:53] <ashridah> okay, this is really weird. 'sata_sil' has loaded according to /proc/modules, but it seems to have magically decided not to actually enable any of the attached sata devices
[11:53] <Killaz> where can I find a list of available packages in the repositories?
[11:53] <Intruder> hahah I know m8
[11:53] <kakalto> Killaz: you want all 13000 packages listed?
[11:53] <Intruder> scheuri: why?
[11:53] <scheuri> Intruder: now we need the log-file again....there is no error message??
[11:53] <slider2800> root		(hd0,0)
[11:53] <kakalto> (give or take up to a few thousand)
[11:53] <Intruder> shall i reboot first
[11:53] <Intruder> to get GUI back
[11:53] <scheuri> Intruder: well, try that...
[11:53] <Ng> Killaz: synaptic can show you a list of packages that aren't installed
[11:53] <Intruder> shutting down now
[11:54] <slider2800> h3sp4wn: Windows is on the first partition, Ubuntu on the second one.
[11:55] <Killaz> kakalto: no I want to look for certain packages. for example shorewall?
[11:55] <luke> everytime grub updates it screws up my menu.lst, by putting in like 100 duplications!!! any ideas?
[11:55] <zcat[1] > Killaz: apt-cache search shorewall
[11:55] <kakalto> Killaz: two options... synaptic (graphical way) .... or 'sudo apt-cache search shorewall' in the terminal to find it
[11:55] <zcat[1] > you don't need to sudo apt-cache
[11:56] <kakalto> Killaz: after which, the graphical way to install it is easy, and the terminal way being 'sudo apt-get install shorewall'
[11:56] <zcat[1] > you're only reading from it..
[11:56] <kakalto> zcat[1] : my bad
[11:56] <Killaz> synaptic not an option Im on CLI....
[11:56] <h3sp4wn> slider2800: look in /boot/grub/menu.lst - look at the examples bit for windows and copy that section to the very bottom of the file (under the ##end automagic ## ) - it is exactly the same as the one earlier in the file (hd0,0)
[11:56] <Fjodor> Killaz: if you prefer web based search, packages.ubuntu.com. Also, shorewall is in the package shorewall :-)
[11:56] <Fjodor> Killaz: Oh
[11:56] <gfunk> jr.boy?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[11:56] <kakalto> Killaz: good on ya for teh CLI :)
[11:56] <Fjodor> Killaz: apt-cache then
[11:56] <gfunk> Going To Store!!!!!
[11:56] <Killaz> thnx!
[11:56] <Fjodor> Killaz: or aptitude perhaps?
[11:56] <CrippsFX> hey Fjodor
[11:57] <Killaz> Fjodor: yeah I read about aptitude...
[11:57] <Fjodor> Hey CrippsFX! Wassup?
[11:57] <scheuri> Intruder: got to go...good luck with your problem
[11:57] <CrippsFX> Fjodor, not too much ... haven't been reading as much as I'd like to ;)
[11:57] <Killaz> think I need to RTFM heh!!! :p
[11:57] <Fjodor> Killaz: I don't use it much, but it should be powerful
[11:57] <Intruder> ok booted up still same still cant change resoution :-( which log do you want to look @
[11:57] <zcat[1] > btw; apt-cache search .  will list every package (18878 in my case)
[11:57] <scheuri> Intruder: got to go...good luck with your problem
[11:57] <Intruder> ok m8
[11:57] <Intruder> thank you
[11:57] <Fjodor> CrippsFX: Yeah, neither have I
[11:58] <scheuri> Intruder: the one you pasted second...
[11:58] <scheuri> bye all
[11:58] <Intruder> ok
[11:58] <Intruder> cya m8
[11:58] <Intruder> ok who wants to see this log?
[11:58] <Killaz> ok.. I'll check apt-cache... and the web based search
[11:58] <slider2800> The only difference between the example and the lines for XP is that in the exmaple there is no SAVEDEFAULT command.
[11:59] <zcat[1] > btw apt-cache search will find keyworkds in the description, not just matching package names..
[11:59] <luke> everytime grub updates it screws up my menu.lst, by putting in like 100 duplications!!! any ideas?
[11:59] <Killaz> I want to be prevent my system to be hacked like last time...
[11:59] <Killaz> think someone installed a rootkit on it
[11:59] <Killaz> :S
[11:59] <Fjodor> Killaz: bummer
[11:59] <zcat[1] > what'd you have open?
[11:59] <Killaz> so I'm looking for every way to prevent and to be alert when this happens..
[11:59] <[D-Tail] > hey all :-)
[12:00] <[D-Tail] > got a small question about gconf-editor/nautilus/desktop settings...
[12:00] <Ng> Killaz: just don't have any ports open to the world
[12:00] <Killaz> well some port for bit-torrent client
[12:00] <Intruder> on a good note my scoll wheel works ok now :d
[12:00] <ic56> anyone have NTFS partitions and wanna help me test a tool that sets up mountpoints and /etc/fstab entries for them?  I promise to help you put things back the way they were after.
[12:00] <[D-Tail] > I accidentally unchecked the show_desktop key in gconf-editor.... my desktop was gone instantly. After checking it again, it was still gone...
[12:00] <[D-Tail] > now what should I do?
[12:00] <slider2800> h3sp4wn: another question... is it possible that i messed up something seriously? When i reinstalled GRUB, i gave the commands "setup (hd0)" , then "setup (hd0,0)" and then "setup (dh0,1)" ... might this srew up the bootloader?
[12:01] <Killaz> Ng: I know so next time I'll just open 2 or 3 ports for the client....
[12:01] <Killaz> Ng: cause the other ports were the standard one.. for apache, mysql openssh
[12:01] <h3sp4wn> slider2800: I think that would install it to the boot part of the first and sectioned partitions but not the mbr (hence overwriting the windows bootloader)
[12:02] <Ng> Killaz: you really don't want mysql open to the world
[12:02] <Mikelo> !skype
[12:02] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[12:02] <h3sp4wn> slider2800: Normally you would just do setup hd0
[12:02] <Killaz> Ng: oh true... just use it on localhost..
[12:02] <Killaz> Ng: !!
[12:03] <Killaz> Ng: maybe that was the problem.... I couldnt figure out how they got in..
[12:03] <slider2800> h3sp4wn: yeah. thats done... and GRUB starts normally, but without that little modding to the lines, i can't boot to Linux, and when i want to boot Windows, its just returning to Grub.
[12:03] <[D-Tail] > Please, who can help me with the gconf-editor/nautilus/desktop problem?
[12:03] <Ng> Killaz: "netstat --tcp -l -p" is quite useful - it shows you which ports are open, on which interfaces and which program owns them
[12:03] <h3sp4wn> slider2800: The best idea is probably just to forget about windows and don't use it
[12:03] <mbm1980> [D-Tail] , just ask mate.
[12:04] <w^x> .
[12:04] <w^x> .
[12:04] <Killaz> Ng: I'm going to install nessus.. herad and read some good things about it
[12:04] <Intruder> ok anyone else about help me with my screen resolution please
[12:04] <Killaz> heard*
[12:04] <slider2800> h3sp4wn: sorry, no can't do. i've got a serious amount of workfiles on that partition AND i still use XP for working... yeah. i know... i hate it too, but i need it for work.
[12:04] <h3sp4wn> slider2800: You could try running sudo update-grub
[12:04] <[D-Tail] > mbm1980: I accidentally unchecked the show_desktop thing inside gconf-editor
[12:04] <slider2800> h3sp4wn: okay
[12:04] <[D-Tail] > and when I checked it again, my desktop and all its icons were still gone
[12:04] <Ng> [D-Tail] : have you logged out since re-enabling that option?
[12:04] <[D-Tail] > yeah
[12:05] <[D-Tail] > didn't help and fglrx crashed :-(
[12:05] <w^x> gfunk, u payin attention
[12:05] <[D-Tail] > so I figure I should completely stop/start x again
[12:05] <[D-Tail] > in order to get fglrx work again, but hey....
[12:05] <[D-Tail] > I'm pretty much sure just drawing a desktop can very well be done with mesa instead, too
[12:05] <slider2800> h3sp4wn: and how about LILO. what if i download that with Synaptic... will it overwrite GRUB on the MBR ?
[12:06] <h3sp4wn> slider2800: Do you know how to setup lilo ?
[12:06] <slider2800> h3sp4wn: nope. :D
[12:06] <[D-Tail] > should I log out, stop x, start x, log in again and try again checking the option?
[12:07] <zawa> Has anyone able to play wmv file using VLC?
[12:07] <ydnar> nope, but i have been able to play it through Movie Player
[12:08] <zawa> what's call?  Just "Movie Player"?
[12:08] <ydnar> Applications > Sound & Video > Movie Player
[12:08] <Mikelo> !gstreamer
[12:08] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Mikelo
[12:08] <ic56> h3sp4wn: what is slider2800's status now?  why isn't working?
[12:09] <monster> guys wich cd (Desktop server or alternative) has the most packages for installation?
[12:09] <ic56> h3sp4wn: (what isn't working?)
[12:09] <bootwoes> hi
[12:09] <WINBALL> hi@you
[12:09] <bootwoes> whos up for some grub troubleshooting?
[12:09] <slider2800> ME! :D
[12:09] <bootwoes> yay
[12:10] <slider2800> So... *sigh* ... About GRUB.
[12:10] <bootwoes> ok .. heres the lowdown
[12:10] <zawa> ydnar, i am using fluxbox.  What's the command to launch the movie player?
[12:10] <bootwoes> ubuntu works find on drive A 80 gig
[12:10] <selaiah> can someone recommend a mp3 player?
[12:10] <ic56> slider2800: :-) go on
[12:10] <bootwoes> i did a cp -archive the lot to drive B 200gig
[12:11] <bootwoes> now ive booted up hoping to be able to install grub
[12:11] <bootwoes> but i get 'Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.'
[12:11] <slider2800> bootwoes: so.. yesterday i had to reinstall Windows XP... and now i had trouble with GRUB. i finally managed to reinstall it, but now its now loading XP, instead its returning to itself, AND i have to overwrite two lines when i want to boot the Ubuntu Kernel.
[12:11] <Fjodor> zawa: The player started by that menu entry is totem here
[12:11] <zawa> totem can't play it either
[12:12] <slider2800> whoops.. typo :...
[12:12] <bootwoes> hey.. at least you got it to load XP.. my last attempt killed xp
[12:12] <slider2800> Grub is NOT loading XP
[12:12] <ic56> slider2800: You installed grub 3 times, from what I saw of your earlier comments.  That means the first grub, in the MBR, ends up chaining to the second one inside the partition.
[12:12] <bootwoes> so anybody know where i go from here?
[12:12] <slider2800> aw damn.
[12:12] <slider2800> can i wipe the other two off the HD ?
[12:13] <luke> is there a command to TRUNCATE a file?
[12:13] <luke> eg, .bash_history
[12:13] <mjr> cp /dev/null file
[12:13] <ic56> slider2800: have you used "chainloader +1" in GRUB's menu.lst entry for the windows partition?
[12:13] <selaiah> Does someone know a mp3 player that supports source - streaming through ice/shout-cast?
[12:13] <Ng> luke: as in empty it? or truncate it at a specific point?
[12:13] <mjr> note that bash will rewrite bash_history on logout
[12:13] <luke> i dont want to delete it, i just want to empty it
[12:13] <slider2800> yes... the command is there.
[12:13] <Ng> luke: >~/.bash_history  will empty it
[12:13] <luke> Ng, empty
[12:13] <luke> whoh ty
[12:14] <luke> what does the ~ do?
[12:14] <slider2800> ic56: if i delete CHAINLOADER +1 ... might that solve the problem?
[12:14] <TheSheep> luke: ~/ is your home directory
[12:14] <luke> oh right.. lol
[12:14] <ic56> slider2800: let's see your menu.lst in pastebin.  remove all the comments -- leave me something short to see.
[12:14] <slider2800> ok. one sec.
[12:15] <h3sp4wn> ic56: I think he needs to use fixboot from the xp recovery console to reinstall the windows bootloader to hd0,0
[12:15] <bootwoes> anybody got anything for me?
[12:15] <ic56> slider2800: to remove all comments:  sed '/^ *#/d' /boot/grub/menu.lst  # output goes to Terminal
[12:15] <luke> where is my bash_history file anyway? because when I ran that command, and then ran history, it didnt change
[12:15] <bootwoes> not feeling the love yo
[12:15] <slider2800> i'm on it.
[12:16] <ic56> h3sp4wn: he could do that but, grub *can* boot XP, can't it?
[12:16] <sladen> selaiah: xmms, totem, etc
[12:16] <Ng> luke: in your home directory. bash probably holds the history list in memory until it quits
[12:16] <luke> ah ic
[12:16] <h3sp4wn> ic56: he did setup (hd0,0) and setup (hd0,1)
[12:16] <Ng> luke: so close all your terminals, open a fresh one, run that command again, then close it and start a new terminal and you should be without history
[12:16] <slider2800> http://pastebin.com/764827
[12:17] <mbm1980> selaiah, Gnome or KDE?
[12:17] <Mikelo> what plugin do i need to play mp3's on rhythmbox?
[12:17] <Mikelo> which of version?
[12:17] <Ng> !tell Mikelo about RestrictedFormats
[12:17] <thefish> luke: if you want to clear your history, just run `history -c`
[12:17] <bootwoes> !help bootwoes
[12:17] <slider2800> ic56: the parameters for Ubuntu has been changed, so it able to boot... ( hd0,2 changed to 0,1 and hda3 to hda2 )
[12:18] <luke> lol ty thefish
[12:18] <ic56> h3sp4wn: hmm, and (hd0,0) is his windows partition, right?  Which means slider2800's windows partition contains a grub too.  Is that right?
[12:18] <slider2800> ic56: yes...
[12:19] <D4rksh4de> Hi.
[12:19] <h3sp4wn> ic56: think so
[12:20] <slider2800> ic56, h3sp4wn: like i said : i gave out the commands "setup (hd0) , setup(hd0,1) and setup (hd0,2)" at installing grub
[12:20] <Faileas> hello
[12:20] <iiiears> Welcome Failes.
[12:20] <slider2800> ... that might be the problem.
[12:21] <Faileas> this might sound rather silly, but i was wondering how i set a root AC and password in ubuntu server?
[12:21] <Faileas> i'm running a system to try out and i'm a little lost
[12:21] <Faileas> i seem to remember there isn't one by default
[12:21] <lsuactiafner> all my audio aps that use sdl dont work?
[12:21] <lsuactiafner> like quake3
[12:21] <iiiears> !rootsudo
[12:21] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:22] <lsuactiafner> i dont get sound
[12:22] <Faileas> thank you
[12:22] <bootwoes> not an irc regular.. so im not sure of the ethiquette.. will someone get around to my problem?
[12:22] <ic56> slider2800: are you able to boot into windows at all?
[12:22] <Faileas> also, is it possible to get a GUI on ubuntu server?
[12:22] <TheSheep> hm... I  used lilo from different distribution, but now I want the pretty ubuntu image at the boot, what should I do? :)
[12:22] <slider2800> nope... when i try, it goes back to Grub
[12:23] <iiiears> lsuactiafner Do you know how to break the mouse pointer "Box" in Unreal Tournament '99 ?
[12:23] <gfunk> .
[12:23] <mbm1980> Faileas, yeah, install the one you want.
[12:23] <gfunk> .
[12:23] <Faileas> ok
[12:24] <Faileas> OOH
[12:24] <Faileas> thanks
[12:24] <Faileas> i get it now ^^
[12:24] <mbm1980> Faileas, install ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[12:24] <lsuactiafner> no idea iiiears
[12:24] <slider2800> ic56: is it possible to erase all instances of Grub from the partitions and then reinstall it to hd0 only?
[12:24] <ashridah> damnit. wish i could work out why the sata controller's failing to initialize :S
[12:24] <ic56> slider2800: do you have WindowsXP install disks?  can you get to the recovery console from there?  If so, you can use fixboot, like h3sp4wn said.  This will trash two grubs: the MBR and the windows partition.  You can then reinstall grub, correctly this time: Just once in the MBR (hd0)
[12:25] <Faileas> mbm1980: ok, i get it, i just need to sudo whatever instead of su to root and watever
[12:25] <slider2800> uh... i do have an install CD... but i don't think there's a recovery console...
[12:25] <slider2800> i might try tho.
[12:26] <ic56> !windowsmbr
[12:26] <ubotu> from memory, windowsmbr is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:26] <mbm1980> Faileas, yeah
[12:26] <guillem101> in an amd64, which is the difference on using amd64-generic versus amd64-K8 kernel?
[12:26] <h3sp4wn> ic56: U think (but don't remember well that only fixmbr overwrites the mbr fixboot shouldn't
[12:26] <mbm1980> Faileas, if you really want the Debian way, you can choose expert when installing, it will ask which method you'd like.
[12:26] <winball_> Irssi 0.8.10 (20051211) - http://irssi.org/
[12:26] <mjr> guillem101, possibly some k8-specific optimizations, shouldn't be a big difference
[12:27] <guillem101> OK, thank-you.
[12:27] <Faileas> mbm1980: its already installed
[12:27] <Faileas> i just need to find my feet, been using suse mostly ;p
[12:27] <ic56> h3sp4wn: windows isn't my domain.  Hopefully you're right.  Have ya'll checked the wiki page on this?
[12:28] <mbm1980> Faileas, *nods* Well it is possible to enable it after install. But all those guides on the wiki/forums are written with sudo in mind. So, finding your feet is properly best. =)
[12:29] <h3sp4wn> ic56: sudo cat /dev/urandom /hda1 would be the best thing to do in my opinion
[12:29] <h3sp4wn> ic56: sudo cat /dev/urandom /dev/hda1 would be the best thing to do in my opinion
[12:29] <Faileas> hmm
[12:29] <Faileas> if i want a shell server, its ssh or open-ssh?
[12:29] <Faileas> er open-ssh server
[12:29] <mjr> h3sp4wn, were you talking of the MBR? that doesn't overwrite it, only the first partition...
[12:30] <Jereth_da_lion> is this the ubuntu place ?
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> mjr: It was an attempt at humor
[12:30] <athena> jereth_da_lion: what's ubuntu?
[12:30] <mbm1980> Faileas, I'd say open-ssh
[12:30] <slider2800> d'oh...
[12:30] <mjr> poor one
[12:30] <Jereth_da_lion> a linux instalation ?
[12:30] <bootwoes> is it my turn yet?
[12:30] <mjr> destructive humor on a help channel isn't nice
[12:30] <mbm1980> nou, Linux Distribution
[12:30] <athena> jereth_da_lion: never heard of it
[12:31] <slider2800> bootwoes: you can help any time...
[12:31] <Jereth_da_lion> just tell me is it or am i in the wrong place
[12:31] <mbm1980> Right place mate.
[12:31] <bootwoes> heh
[12:31] <bimberi> Jereth_da_lion: yes, this is the #ubuntu support channel.  Welcome! :)
[12:31] <Jereth_da_lion> ok i need help
[12:31] <Celestar> note to self: linux doesn't like hotswapping of HDDs
[12:31] <bootwoes> get in line jereth
[12:32] <Faileas> does any OS? ;p
[12:32] <Celestar> especially not if you accidently "swap" disks
[12:32] <Frogzoo> Jereth_da_lion: see the banner - just state your problem
[12:32] <Celestar> Faileas: normally it works
[12:32] <Celestar> Faileas: but I put one disk in the slot of another and v.v. so the mount points got a BIT messed up
[12:32] <TheSheep> Celestar: windows doesn't like it even more
[12:32] <mjr> Celestar, linux likes it just fine. If they're unmounted and the HW supports it.
[12:32] <Jereth_da_lion> how do i findout cpu speed and ram from within linux
[12:32] <Celestar> TheSheep: Windows doesn't like you altering the mouse position, so what's the point? :P
[12:32] <kimo> Jereth_da_lion: cat /proc/cpuinfo /proc/meminfo
[12:33] <mjr> Celestar, ah. You can mount by filesystem label to avoid that, btw
[12:33] <TheSheep> Jereth_da_lion: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:33] <TheSheep> right
[12:33] <TheSheep> sorry
[12:33] <Celestar> it's fun to see that POST takes 5 minutes and system boot takes 50 seconds.
[12:33] <bootwoes> anybody for some one on one help?
[12:33] <ic56> slider2800: I'm reading up on windows.  Before I forget, your config has one thing wrong: line 26 should be "rootnoverify" instead of "root"
[12:33] <bimberi> !grub
[12:33] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:33] <bootwoes> itll be fun
[12:33] <Jereth_da_lion> is that the file location ot a comandline run
[12:33] <bootwoes> you know you wanna...
[12:33] <mbm1980> Jereth_da_lion, Use System->Administration->Device Manager
[12:33] <bimberi> bootwoes: have a look through the links ubotu posted
[12:33] <slider2800> k. thanks. i'll try.
[12:33] <Jereth_da_lion> very new to linux
[12:33] <Celestar> I wish ubuntu@sparc64 would not try to activate bluetooth services
[12:34] <bootwoes> dude.. i have read em all..
[12:34] <Jereth_da_lion> it didnt show up under that its on a older laptop
[12:34] <Frogzoo> Jereth_da_lion: cat /proc/cpuinfo & /proc/meminfo
[12:34] <bootwoes> i need some advice on what step to take next
[12:34] <ic56> slider2800: it won't fix your current problem but it will be ncessary once you fix windows.
[12:34] <Jereth_da_lion> ok ill try that
[12:34] <slider2800> okay.
[12:34] <Faileas> bootwoes: what was the issue? (it was said before i came)
[12:34] <bootwoes> failed install on a single disk
[12:34] <bootwoes> xp corrupt
[12:35] <Faileas> its XP
[12:35] <bootwoes> installed ubuntu solo on another drive
[12:35] <Faileas> wipe and reinstall?
[12:35] <bootwoes> 2 things i want to do
[12:35] <Faileas> hmm
[12:35] <bootwoes> move ubuntu from a 80 gig
[12:35] <Jereth_da_lion> and can yuo run ubuntu from a folder in windows like older distu could
[12:35] <bootwoes> to a 200 gig drive
[12:35] <mwe> Frogzoo: isn't the "Total" reported by /proc/meminfo == total physical - kernel ?
[12:35] <Celestar> wtf is "SILO"
[12:35] <Ng> Celestar: sparc boot loader
[12:35] <bootwoes> and then get it to run with my other 250 which has xp
[12:35] <TheSheep> Jereth_da_lion: you can use livecd...
[12:35] <bootwoes> recovered with a ghost image
[12:36] <Jereth_da_lion> ok
[12:36] <Celestar> Ng: ah :)
[12:36] <Faileas> ahhh
[12:36] <TheSheep> Jereth_da_lion: it's not the same, but it's similar
[12:36] <Celestar> Ng: it just sounds .. strange
[12:36] <Ng> Celestar: sparcs are strange ;)
[12:36] <Faileas> you can have two independant bootloaders and select at bios IIRC
[12:36] <Celestar> Ng: but they rock :)
[12:36] <Jereth_da_lion> ok and is any big name software avalabe for linux
[12:36] <Faileas> i need to try that sometime in VMware
[12:37] <Faileas> Jereth_da_lion: big name of what sort?
[12:37] <TheSheep> Jereth_da_lion: mozilla firefox for exmaple? ;)
[12:37] <slider2800> okay then. i'm off repairing the computer.
[12:37] <bootwoes> right now the copied ubuntu wont work
[12:37] <Celestar> Ng: I'm just still looking for a CPU monitor in X. :P
[12:37] <Faileas> serverside, damn near everything
[12:37] <bootwoes> it has no grub
[12:37] <slider2800> THANKS FOR THE HELP!!!
[12:37] <babo> they might say, I'm a dreamer ...
[12:37] <babo> but I'm not the only one ...
[12:37] <Jereth_da_lion> um cinema 4d maya maxon 3dsmax photoshop that kind of thing
[12:37] <Faileas> bootwoes: repair mode, and install grub on that drive?
[12:37] <babo> come on and join me ...
[12:37] <babo> and the world will live as one ...
[12:37] <ic56> slider2800: yw.  Follow up on the URL I showed you. I'm still reading it
[12:37] <bootwoes> i tried sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[12:37] <bootwoes> but i got this
[12:37] <bootwoes> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[12:37] <Ng> Celestar: gnome-system-monitor?
[12:38] <Faileas> o0
[12:38] <Celestar> Ng: lets see
[12:38] <bootwoes> this by the way is only with one drive plugged in
[12:38] <Celestar> Ng: (still POSTing)
[12:38] <TheSheep> babo: Imagine there's no Heaven  :P
[12:38] <babo> TheSheep: :-)
[12:38] <Faileas> hmm
[12:38] <bootwoes>   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:38] <bootwoes> /dev/sda1            9638       24321   117949230    5  Extended
[12:38] <bootwoes> /dev/sda2               1        9637    77409171   83  Linux
[12:38] <bootwoes> /dev/sda5            9638       24321   117949198+   b  W95 FAT32
[12:39] <bootwoes> this is whats on the drive
[12:39] <mbm1980> Jereth_da_lion, here's a list of programs for Windows and suggestions for replacements under Linux: http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[12:39] <bootwoes> is it missing a boot partition or sumthing?
[12:39] <Faileas> er...
[12:39] <Jereth_da_lion> bought an old laptop just to learn linux on
[12:39] <Jereth_da_lion> thnx
[12:39] <Faileas> whats the lightest desktop with some minor management tools i can istall?
[12:39] <chennaituxian> bootwoes, u don hav a seperate /boot partition ?!
[12:40] <minimec> Hi folks. Is there a way to reset the password of the keyring in the gnome-keyring-manager. I can't access to my keyring anymore.
[12:40] <gizmo_the_great> dsl - dam small linux
[12:40] <Faileas> lol
[12:40] <Faileas> i mean over ubuntu server
[12:40] <bootwoes> chennaituxian.. dont know
[12:40] <Faileas> KDE and gnome has more stuff than i need for a test install
[12:40] <mbm1980> Jereth_da_lion, I'd suggest you just install it and use the Add/Remove programs then. You don't need to download any extra software with Ubuntu.
[12:40] <bootwoes> i formated this drive using gparted and selected ext3
[12:40] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: it shows only one Linux partition
[12:40] <Celestar> Ng: because xosview is NOT happy
[12:40] <chennaituxian> and that is /
[12:40] <bootwoes> then copied the ubuntu partition to it
[12:40] <ashridah> weird. initramfs loads the basic scsi driver, but never tries to load anything else
[12:41] <bootwoes> how do i go about remedying this?
[12:41] <bootwoes> i am currently booting via the livecd
[12:41] <NET||abuse> how do i list the files in a deb? to find location of specific file of a package?
[12:41] <NET||abuse> -l lists just packages.. what about the files in the package?
[12:41] <manicka> can someone tell me if the Code of Conduct has changed
[12:41] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: re-installed GRUB ?
[12:41] <ashridah> Netcat: dpkg -S filename will search installed packages
[12:42] <neutrinomass> Anybody with eagle-usb experience ?
[12:42] <ashridah> dpkg-deb should let you inspect .deb files (from memory)
[12:42] <bootwoes> thats what i think im trying to do
[12:42] <ashridah> NET||abuse: even
[12:42] <manicka> my launchpad page says I'm no longer an ubuntero
[12:42] <bootwoes> i mounted the drive
[12:42] <bootwoes> then did grud-install /dev/sda
[12:42] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: ur /boot is within ur /
[12:42] <bootwoes> and got the error
[12:43] <Hit3k> Can anyone recommend a CD/DVD writer that can burn images like .isos and .cue files?
[12:43] <rem_> .
[12:43] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: try unmounting the drive and try
[12:43] <rem_> k3b
[12:43] <Jereth_da_lion> maya ????
[12:43] <NET||abuse> ashridah: thanks i'll try that.
[12:43] <bootwoes> actually i didnt even mount it
[12:43] <bootwoes> i just ran the command
[12:44] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: oho
[12:44] <MadMerC> do yas reckon that breezy is still ok to use instead of goin up to dapper ??
[12:44] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: is ur sda partitioned as sda1, sda2... ?
[12:44] <bimberi> manicka: hm, same here, and for sabdfl !!
[12:44] <chennaituxian> MadMerC: dapper rox
[12:45] <bootwoes> sda1, sda5 and sda5
[12:45] <manicka> lol
[12:45] <bootwoes> sda5 is fat32
[12:45] <svigi_wlan> hello
[12:45] <bootwoes> sda2
[12:45] <manicka> I wonder why?
[12:45] <Jereth_da_lion> frog is it a file name or command i enter ?
[12:45] <Picillo> I'm downlaoding the image now. I hope it's easier than using slackware.
[12:45] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: try giving specific partition where your linux is, like sda1 = sda(0,0)
[12:45] <svigi_wlan> anyone knows why I get this message? /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu1/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko need unknown symbol capable?
[12:46] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: try giving specific partition sda1 or whatever it is
[12:46] <svigi_wlan> and I get this for all modules
[12:46] <Picillo> Not to be newb, but what is the difference from Ubuntu desktop and the server versions?
[12:47] <bootwoes> hmmm
[12:47] <bootwoes> same result
[12:47] <Mercury> Picillo: Largely the package selection.
[12:47] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: duh!
[12:47] <Celestar> hm
[12:47] <Faileas> o0
[12:47] <bootwoes> maybe ill try ghost for linux
[12:47] <Picillo> I take it the desktop would have more packages?
[12:47] <Faileas> ls in ubuntu server seems.. empty
[12:47] <Celestar> gnome-system-monitor is NOT happy either
[12:48] <manicka> lol, Seveas isn't an Ubuntero either
[12:48] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: ok
[12:48] <manicka> what's going on
[12:48] <bootwoes> thanks for trying
[12:48] <mbm1980> Picillo, it includes needed and exludes not needed packages for a server computer. For example, no GUI.
[12:48] <Seveas> manicka, ?
[12:48] <Faileas> i LSed. and its blank
[12:48] <e_> Faileas, huh? where did you 'ls'?
[12:48] <Picillo> ahh.. So, there is no xwindows on the server version?
[12:49] <Faileas> as soon as it started
[12:49] <manicka> Seveas, your launchapd page says you're not an ubuntero, as does mine
[12:49] <e_> Faileas, 'pwd'
[12:49] <Seveas> hmm, lp broken again.
[12:49] <svigi_wlan> Picillo: it's not installed
[12:49] <manicka> and sabdfl
[12:49] <svigi_wlan> Picillo: and his kernel wouldn't start on older machines
[12:49] <mbm1980> Picillo, not as standard, however you can install it if you like.
[12:49] <svigi_wlan> you need to install the dapper desktop kernel:)
[12:49] <manicka> ok, so nothing to worry about then
[12:49] <Faileas> e_ it says /home/user then
[12:49] <chennaituxian> Picillo: u can install whatever packages/servers you want
[12:50] <Picillo> mbm1980: Thanks for the reply. You to svigi_wlan..
[12:50] <Celestar> damnit
[12:50] <Jereth_da_lion> ok
[12:50] <e_> Faileas, of course it is blank if you have nothing in your home dir. 'touch foo' then 'ls' again
[12:50] <Faileas> but i can't get to /home/user either
[12:50] <svigi_wlan> I'm trying to build a wireless server with an old pentium machine, but madwifi doesn't work well
[12:51] <chennaituxian> Picillo: Ubuntu on the fly is intended to be light, so it has only the basic packages
[12:51] <w^x> wheres the wmv codecs?
[12:51] <Hit3k> !wmv
[12:51] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:51] <svigi_wlan> so my problem is, when I install the kernel modules, I use the 2.6.15-7 kernel source, it says unknown symbol capable
[12:51] <Faileas> e_: its a stock server install with LAMP packages and SSH. i need to reconfigure apache a bit
[12:51] <svigi_wlan> and I googled for it but no luck
[12:51] <Faileas> and i can't find the folder
[12:51] <Celestar> I just want a system monitor working *cries*
[12:51] <Mercury> !FreeFormats
[12:51] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[12:51] <TheSheep> w^x: wmv is patented et all :)
[12:51] <Jereth_da_lion> ok i found it thankies
[12:51] <svigi_wlan> Celestar: you mean iostat?
[12:52] <Celestar> svigi_wlan: preferably CPU usage
[12:52] <chennaituxian> Faileas: same here
[12:52] <Jereth_da_lion> one other thing im pretty sure thisd has a sound card init but im not sure and ubuntu cant find it
[12:52] <svigi_wlan> apt-get install sysstat  if I remember well
[12:52] <svigi_wlan> and there's the top command
[12:52] <svigi_wlan> man top  look at it
[12:52] <Celestar> top is ok
[12:52] <Celestar> but I was thinking something Xish ;)
[12:52] <svigi_wlan> oh I see:)
[12:52] <chennaituxian> Faileas: trying to install LAMP packages, finished but now pondering where is /var/www/html to place my .php files
[12:53] <e_> i don't know about ubuntu-server but if its installed, it should be at /etc/apache2/ for the config files.
[12:53] <e_> damn. i hate telnet lag.
[12:53] <mutante> how is "Utnubu" doing these days?
[12:53] <bootwoes> are the only partitions you need Extended and Linux?
[12:53] <Faileas> chennaituxian: i need to reconfig, since my ISP blocks port 80, and i am trying a server on VMware bridged to a physical connection to my router
[12:53] <Celestar> svigi_wlan: and most monitor have suboptimal output when it comes to multiple CPUs
[12:53] <e_> Faileas, check /etc/apache2/ then.
[12:53] <svigi_wlan> oh I know it
[12:54] <Killaz> what shoudl I do with a *.gz file?
[12:54] <Tobberoth> How do I install fonts? My friend sent me TIMES.TTF, but I couldn't find anything in the wiki about installing
[12:54] <svigi_wlan> Celestar: install the gkrellm daemon
[12:54] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: what are your needs ?
[12:54] <Jereth_da_lion> 256 meg pc  159324kb memtotal whats that mean?
[12:54] <Faileas> no such file or directory
[12:54] <Celestar> svigi_wlan: hm ... gkrellm that's an idea. or karamba
[12:54] <bootwoes> im wondering if im missing a a specific partition
[12:54] <chennaituxian> Faileas: /etc/apache not there ? :o
[12:54] <bootwoes> type
[12:54] <Faileas> but the lamp server was supposed to have been installed
[12:54] <svigi_wlan> I used it in kde and xfce too
[12:54] <Celestar> root@niagara:[/root] # apt-cache search gkrellm
[12:54] <Celestar> root@niagara:[/root] #
[12:54] <Celestar> :(
[12:55] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: u need a / and a swap, both as primary, thats enuf
[12:55] <svigi_wlan> hmm it was in debian
[12:55] <svigi_wlan> celestar, wait a minute
[12:55] <Ng> Celestar: it's in the universe repository
[12:55] <bootwoes> oh
[12:55] <e_> Killaz, gzip -d foo.gz
[12:55] <Faileas> maybe i'll just bloody install gnome, i am getting totally lost, and i want to see the tamil support
[12:55] <svigi_wlan> yes:D
[12:55] <Celestar> Ng: explain?
[12:55] <bootwoes> in that case this probably isnt right
[12:55] <chennaituxian> Celestar: do a apt-cache search for the package
[12:55] <fairy> I've done something wrong when upgrading firefox, I get /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.  I can't open a web-browser to reference the wiki page on how to revert.
[12:55] <svigi_wlan> celestar: nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:55] <Ng> Celestar: you need to enable the universe repository in synaptic or in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:55] <bootwoes> Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[12:55] <bootwoes> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders
[12:55] <bootwoes> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[12:55] <bootwoes>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:55] <bootwoes> /dev/sda1            9638       24321   117949230    5  Extended
[12:55] <bootwoes> /dev/sda2               1        9637    77409171   83  Linux
[12:55] <bootwoes> /dev/sda5            9638       24321   117949198+   b  W95 FAT32
[12:55] <Ng> !tell Celestar about repos
[12:55] <Picillo> With the desktop edition, do I need to install video card drivers or would they be already installed? I had to install some drivers for my Geforce 3 on slackware. Just wondering if it's the same with Ubuntu.
[12:55] <Celestar> nano :((((
[12:55] <Ng> !tell bootwoes about paste
[12:55] <chennaituxian> Faileas: u tamil ?
[12:55] <bootwoes> yes no?
[12:55] <TheSheep> hmmm, there is a warning that grub has problems with xfs, is it serious?
[12:56] <svigi_wlan> or mcedit or whatever you edit
[12:56] <svigi_wlan> gedit
[12:56] <bootwoes> sorry
[12:56] <svigi_wlan> bootwoes what's the problem?
[12:56] <Celestar> vim
[12:56] <Celestar> vim vim vim
[12:56] <TheSheep> Celestar: don't be cruel ;)
[12:56] <Celestar> TheSheep: I code 4h a day in vim
[12:56] <bootwoes> i cant install grub
[12:56] <Ng> Celestar: use whichever editor you like
[12:57] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: u need a primary sda1 --> linux and primary swap, along with a extended sda3 FAT32 ?
[12:57] <Faileas> chennaituxian: yeah, amma was born in coimbature, appa grew up in jaffna, but his parents from TN too ;p
[12:57] <Celestar> I have yet to find an editor which comes close
[12:57] <svigi_wlan> bootwoes do you have multiple operating systems?
[12:57] <TheSheep> Celestar: I code 16h a day in vim, but it's still cruel to a newbie :)
[12:57] <svigi_wlan> yes I see
[12:57] <Celestar> TheSheep: true :)=
[12:57] <Faileas> actually kodumudi no coimbature,... my bad
[12:57] <Ng> editor wars in #ubuntu-offtopic please ;)
[12:57] <bootwoes> how do i fix it?
[12:57] <chennaituxian> Faileas: me too tamil, see my name :d
[12:57] <Faileas> yeah noticed ;p
[12:57] <bootwoes> format the drive?
[12:57] <Faileas> apache2 is there
[12:57] <Faileas> somewhere
[12:57] <chennaituxian> bootwoes: that sounds better
[12:57] <svigi_wlan> grub-install /dev/sda  if you want to install to the drive's mbr
[12:57] <svigi_wlan> as root
[12:58] <fairy> n/m, I figured it out... there's firefox.ubuntu that let's me run the old firefox that works :P
[12:58] <bootwoes> tried that bro
[12:58] <tom__> hello all
[12:58] <svigi_wlan> and grub-install /dev/sda2
[12:58] <tom__> I've got a problem with dapper drake
[12:58] <tom__> can anyone help me (it's about X drivers I guess)
[12:59] <svigi_wlan> and my rtl8169 card doesn't work after rebooting my new kernel
[01:00] <chennaituxian> svigi_wlan: rtl8169 has problems in many kernels
[01:00] <TheSheep> tom__: can you eleborate?
[01:00] <svigi_wlan> but it worked in
[01:00] <makko> my ubuntu has a strange behaviour: all my mc (midnight commander) file browsing is recorded in the bash_history (in this format: cd `echo -en "..."`); what's even more interesting is that each number within a path is represented as some sort of escaped codes (as though it is writing any digit in its ascii code). any idea what this is?
[01:00] <svigi_wlan> dapper desktop kernel
[01:00] <chennaituxian> Faileas: where do u place ur .php files if there is no /var/www/html, any idea ?
[01:01] <Faileas> chennaituxian: the install is so i can learn ;p
[01:01] <chennaituxian> dapper works on fly..
[01:01] <johnnowak> Does anyone here know if it is possible to configure Ubuntu/Debian to use BSD-style init instead of sysv-style? At least in a way that won't break packages?
[01:01] <Elektrochelovek> chennaituxian> try ~/public_html
[01:01] <Insup> check the httpd config to see where the default directory is
[01:01] <chennaituxian> Elektrochelovek: ~/public_html, means create one such dir in my /home/user ?
[01:02] <andrisp> Hello all, is it possible to configure Quanta Plus to keep indending when I press 'Enter' and go to new line ?
[01:02] <andrisp> i mean indenting
[01:02] <Elektrochelovek> chennaituxian > yes
[01:02] <chennaituxian> ok
[01:02] <Elektrochelovek> chennaituxian and then try http://localhost/~yoursusername
[01:02] <tom__> TheSheep: I can't change my resolution to anything else than 640*480, and I have a ati radeon card
[01:03] <Tobberoth> Anyone who knows how to install fonts?
[01:03] <chennaituxian> Elektrochelovek: ok
[01:03] <Elektrochelovek> chennaituxian > and check /etc/apache config files. Search 'public_html' and uncomment related things. You'll find
[01:04] <chennaituxian> Elektrochelovek: no httpd.conf in /etc
[01:04] <svigi_wlan> public_html -> find mod_userdir.c :)
[01:04] <TheSheep> tom__: look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find a line with 'Driver' in it
[01:04] <TheSheep> tom__: what does it say?
[01:05] <TheSheep> tom__: it should be in a 'Section Device'
[01:05] <bimberi> ubotu tell Tobberoth about font
[01:05] <Toma-> Deskbar is so cool :) anyone know if you can use Gaim or amsn with it?
[01:06] <Tobberoth> odd, i searched the wiki for font and didn't find that page O.o
[01:07] <dxdemetriou> Can I set a label on partition without format? I have two the same, and I can't have mounted both of them
[01:07] <vinboy> hi
[01:07] <Subhuman> dxdemetriou, yes.
[01:07] <vinboy> i can mount my removable hard disk, but I CAN"T write to it
[01:07] <Frogzoo> dxdemetriou: tune2fs
[01:07] <svigi_wlan> vinboy, have you got permission?
[01:08] <vinboy> svigi_wlan: wait i check
[01:08] <selaiah> I got an automake version mismatch.. tells me to "recreate" anyone knows what i can do about this?
[01:08] <svigi_wlan> vinboy: in /etc/fstab: add the user flag into your partition
[01:08] <dxdemetriou> Frogzoo, with that will not have problem with journalling?
[01:08] <pyxel> hello, please help me, i can't play anythink in totem, dbg : ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)1, layer=(int)3, rate=(int)48000, channels=(int)2, codec_data=(buffer)010002000000800101000000
[01:09] <pyxel> with new drapper =)
[01:09] <vinboy> svigi_wlan: it is not writable
[01:09] <vinboy> when I try to chmod, it says "chmod: changing permissions of `sdc1': Read-only file system"
[01:09] <Subhuman> pyxel, do you have universe/multiverse in your repos?
[01:09] <chennaituxian> Elektrochelovek: is this ok... UseDir public_html in apache2.conf ?
[01:09] <svigi_wlan> vinboy: sudo mcedit /etc/fstab and write "user" in
[01:10] <Subhuman> pyxel, "sudo apt-get install w32codecs totem-xine"
[01:10] <pyxel> Subhuman: hi, don't found w32codecs package
[01:10] <Subhuman> pyxel, forget that then, just try "totem-xine"
[01:10] <vinboy> svigi_wlan: u mean add my removable drive into fstab?
[01:11] <svigi_wlan> vinboy: yes, with the user flg
[01:11] <svigi_wlan> flag
[01:11] <svigi_wlan> and with a correct umask setting
[01:11] <TheSheep> pyxel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:11] <vinboy> ic
[01:11] <Matthewv> Subhuman, w32codecs has been deprecated since hoary i believe
[01:12] <Frogzoo> dxdemetriou: run 'tune2fs -L /dev/hd#' while the filesystem is unmounted
[01:12] <Subhuman> Matthewv, what has taken it's place?
[01:12] <weslei> how to install php5 with apache2?
[01:12] <Subhuman> theres no other restriced formats all-in-one pacakhe
[01:13] <Matthewv> Subhuman, nothing i believe.. it was removed because of legal issues, so !restricted lists what to do... but basically it involves installing a stack of gstreamer plugins, or switching to totem-xine and getting some other codecs...
[01:13] <pyxel> apt tell me that he can't find gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[01:13] <halibut> I am trying to search for all files whose filename begins with "."   I have tried   ls -Ra | grep ^.    but this just returns all files, what's the best way to do this?
[01:13] <Matthewv> ubotu, tell me about restricted
[01:13] <pyxel> btw I use xubuntu
[01:14] <ashridah> this is by far a weird issue, but may well just be a kernel issue
[01:14] <Subhuman> Matthewv, thats what i told him to to, get the xine backend and use w32codecs.
[01:14] <Subhuman> there still in my repos, but i dont kno which one as i have not got the standard sources.list
[01:15] <chennaituxian> weslei: apt-get install php5 and apt-get install apache2
[01:15] <sukren> hi
[01:15] <pyxel> Subhuman: I have w32codecs but problem still exist
[01:15] <pyxel> I think that's something with gstreamer
[01:15] <Matthewv> Subhuman, if you want w32codecs it must be downloaded from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.4_i386.deb
[01:15] <vinboy> svigi_wlan: i chown the directory to me, but when I mount it, it change to root by itself
[01:15] <Matthewv> pyxel, ^^^
[01:15] <vinboy> it keeps saying it is a read-only filesystem
[01:16] <pyxel> Matthewv: yes I installed this, but error is still here :o
[01:16] <Subhuman> Matthewv, i have them - itz pyxel wih the problem
[01:16] <Matthewv> pyxel, have you installed totem-xine?
[01:16] <pyxel> Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake) - gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[01:17] <pyxel> but this don't work
[01:17] <Subhuman> pyxel, thats why i told you to "sudo apt-get install totem-xine" - that will replace gstreamer with xine, which uses the w32codecs.
[01:17] <svigi_wlan> vinboy try adding umask=000 in fstab again
[01:17] <vinboy> ok
[01:17] <makko> my ubuntu has a strange behaviour: all my mc (midnight commander) file browsing is recorded in the bash_history (in this format: cd `echo -en "..."`); what's even more interesting is that each number within a path is represented as some sort of escaped codes (as though it is writing any digit in its ascii code). any idea what this is?
[01:18] <Matthewv> pyxel, do ogg's work?
[01:18] <TheSheep> Subhuman: I think I saw a gstremer plugin that uses windows dlls too...
[01:18] <pyxel> Subhuman: yes yes i do that he tell me that totem-xine is obselete and it was replace with libtotem-plparser1 libtotem-plparser-dev, I do this but this don't work
[01:19] <mwe> makko: don't you think it is using bash commands and thus they are recorded?
[01:19] <pyxel> Matthewv: wait, i will try
[01:19] <TheSheep> pyxel: totem-xine is not obsolete, w32codecs is :)
[01:19] <tmdca> Hello. I got probs with my laptop (dell latitude c600)...The touchpad looses sync and stops working for a while than its okay again... Any solution?
[01:19] <Matthewv> sry Subhuman i'm probably interfering a bit too much :)
[01:20] <pyxel> TheSheep: aptitude tell mi that totem-xine is :)
[01:21] <Subhuman> dude i gotta go now anyway
[01:21] <TheSheep> pyxel: ok, then use gstreamer-pitfdll
[01:21] <Subhuman> interfere away:P
[01:21] <pyxel> Matthewv: ehm, no ogg don't work, /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: dont'existe :/
[01:21] <TheSheep> pyxel: but you'll need windows's dlls anyways
[01:21] <Intruder> well managed to fix my problem
[01:21] <Intruder> :D:D
[01:21] <pyxel> TheSheep: I has downloaded and installed manualy from mplayer homepage
[01:22] <pyxel> (codecs)
[01:22] <mwe> makko: well I just tried navigating about with mc. it didn't get recorded in .bash_history
[01:22] <Matthewv> pyxel, so its probably not a prob. with the codecs....
[01:22] <pyxel> TheSheep:  gstreamer-pitfdll don't found in rep
[01:22] <Matthewv> pyxel, does sound work anywhere else?
[01:22] <Intruder> thank you all for your help
[01:22] <pyxel> Matthewv: yes xmms works fine
[01:22] <TheSheep> pyxel: gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[01:22] <Celestar> where do I set the default system keyboard? for gdm and stuff
[01:22] <pyxel> TheSheep: again
[01:22] <pyxel> TheSheep: don't found
[01:22] <LiteWait> Hey all.  Does anyone know where ndiswrapper went on Dapper?  I can't find it.
[01:22] <Ng> pyxel: you need to make sure you have the multiverse repository enabled
[01:22] <muf> sex in ubuntu?
[01:23] <pyxel> Ng: ehm, what? :)
[01:23] <TheSheep> pyxel: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[01:23] <chennaituxian> LiteWait: me too searching for the same
[01:23] <Ng> !tell pyxel about repos
[01:23] <Matthewv> pyxel, what about rhythmbox?
[01:23] <makko> mwe: this is strange.
[01:24] <makko> mwe: are you sure you 1. mc-navigated 2. *closed* mc 3. looked in your bash_history?
[01:25] <d34db14ck> I't seems that there is no Xvideo suppoer for your video card available. this is what i get when trying to play something in Mplayer
[01:25] <d34db14ck> the movie plays but only in window mode and it's crappy
[01:25] <LiteWait> Also, my Mobility/P that used to work at 1400x  now only works allows 1024x768, how do I tweak resolution?
[01:26] <mwe> makko: yes, yes and yes
[01:26] <Jereth_da_lion> can you get drivers for most pcmia ethernet cards
[01:26] <pyxel> Matthewv: dunno i see wait please
[01:26] <chennaituxian> LiteWait: try adding that mode in xconfig and restart x ?
[01:27] <chennaituxian> i meant org.conf
[01:27] <chennaituxian> xorg.conf*
[01:27] <makko> mwe: in which order :P
[01:27] <vinboy> svigi_wlan: I know what is wrong now... the removable disk is using NTFS!!! arghhhh
[01:27] <vinboy> thanks for your help
[01:27] <mwe> makko: that same order of course
[01:27] <LiteWait> chennaituxian -- will try thanks
[01:27] <svigi_wlan> yes ntfs is sucks
[01:28] <mwe> ntfs is a decent fs
[01:28] <vinboy> it is better to use fat32?
[01:28] <mwe> to bad the specs are closed
[01:28] <d34db14ck> I't seems that there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. this is what i get when trying to play something in Mplayer
[01:28] <mjr> vinboy, better for Linux interoperability, yes
[01:28] <nandemonai> greetings, just curious, is the installer cd also a live cd for dapper 6.06.. most mirrors only have server, desktop and alternate iso's
[01:28] <TheSheep> nandemonai: yes
[01:28] <nandemonai> ahh execcellent
[01:28] <alth> This is probably a stupid question, but what's the quickest way to change my computer name?
[01:28] <nandemonai> thanks
[01:29] <vinboy> ic ic
[01:29] <vinboy> nvm
[01:29] <Frogzoo> alth: /etc/hostname & /etc/hosts & reboot
[01:29] <mwe> makko: I have no idea why mc would give that odd bash_history
[01:30] <Jereth_da_lion> enroll it in the catholic church
[01:30] <TheSheep> Frogzoo: reboot inst' fast at all ;)
[01:30] <Frogzoo> alth: alternatively, just 'sudo hostname' - but you'll lose settings on reboot
[01:30] <Rambo3> bit wise & ?
[01:30] <mandavi> hi, how do I delete a symbolic link as root without deleting the actual file? is it simply 'rm file'?
[01:31] <chennaituxian> alth: change hosname in the network config gui and see, am not sure
[01:31] <pyxel> Matthewv: argh, new error: /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: file don't exist, that's something about sound ? can I tall to totem to use alsa ?
[01:31] <muf> czech?
[01:31] <svigi_wlan> mandavi, yes you remove only the link, and not the original file
[01:31] <alth> Ok, thanks.
[01:31] <selaiah> Anyone ever managed to get being a shout/icecast source, to work with XMMS ?
[01:31] <svigi_wlan> try it with dummy files
[01:32] <mandavi> svigi_wlan: is that also valid for symbolic foders?
[01:32] <Matthewv> pyxel, press alt-F2 then type gstreamer-properties and hit enter.. make sure it is set right.. eg alsa.. or something that works (test)
[01:32] <chennaituxian> mandavi, deleting symbolic links wont delete files, only hard links do
[01:32] <mandavi> svigi_wlan: *folders
[01:32] <svigi_wlan> i didn't try it
[01:32] <svigi_wlan> i use it only for symbolic file links
[01:32] <chennaituxian> mandavi, create a dymmy dir , link it and try
[01:32] <mandavi> chennaituxian: alright
[01:33] <Gerbils> How can I apply a config file (like the one from Awstats), so new settings will be applied?
[01:33] <svigi_wlan> will these work? cd /usr/src/linux; make clean; make modules; make modules_install; make bzImage; make install
[01:33] <svigi_wlan> in these order
[01:34] <chennaituxian> Gerbils: put the config pile in your ~/ directory
[01:34] <Gerbils> chennaituxian: ?
[01:34] <d34db14ck> how can i install xvideo support for nvidia?
[01:34] <Ng> d34db14ck: if you've installed the binary drivers it should have Xv support
[01:34] <codecaine_> im on my laptop on ubuntu is there a program that can supprose my mousepad
[01:34] <Ng> !tell d34db14ck about nvidia
[01:34] <d34db14ck> ng: binary drivers?
[01:35] <codecaine_> so it doesn't click when I scroll
[01:35] <Ng> d34db14ck: see the URL ubotu just messaged you
[01:35] <alth> Restarting x-session.
[01:35] <chennaituxian> Gerbils: what kinda config are you trying to apply ?
[01:35] <d34db14ck> Ng ;ty
[01:35] <Gerbils> chennaituxian: The one from Awstats.
[01:35] <Ng> Gerbils: the example one?
[01:35] <Gerbils> chennaituxian: It didn't read my logs in combined mode. I changed the config file now. But it still doesn't seem to work.
[01:36] <Gerbils> chennaituxian: So my guess is Awstats doesn't run the new settings yet. And I have to restart it in some way.
[01:36] <Ng> Gerbils: by default it looks at /etc/awstats/awstats.conf and /etc/awstats/awstats.conf.local (which is where you should make changes ideally)
[01:36] <chennaituxian> place your config files in ur /home/username dir and check if it works, provided ur /home/username is in the PATH
[01:36] <Ng> chennaituxian: awstats doesn't check home directories for configs
[01:36] <Ng> it's a system tool
[01:36] <pyxel> mandavi: lol totem run anyway :p
[01:36] <Ng> Gerbils: by default awstats only updates every 10 minutes
[01:36] <pyxel> Matthewv: (totem:23595): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:37] <pyxel> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:37] <Gerbils> Ng: It's not about updating but about new settings.
[01:37] <iiiears> Totem player is awful - lol
[01:37] <iiiears> MPlayer!
[01:37] <Gerbils> Ng: Or should that be done automatically?
[01:37] <Ng> Gerbils: I don't think it will re-generate existing stats, you'd need to clear out its data and run all your logs through it again manually
[01:37] <chennaituxian> Gerbils: then place or replace the config files, where Ng said
[01:37] <LiteWait> chennaituxian -- edited xorg.conf but those modes don't show in the screen resolution tool from the menu.
[01:37] <Gerbils> chennaituxian: That is where they are.
[01:38] <chennaituxian> LiteWait: then with your current drivers, the display mode is not supported
[01:38] <Gerbils> Ng: Is it not so that it should just use the new settings?
[01:38] <gharz> guys... i can't find in the internet what differences do ubuntu breezy & drapper have... what are the differences?
[01:39] <Jereth_da_lion> is linux easy on the ram or does it eat it up like xp
[01:39] <Ng> Gerbils: it probably will use the new settings for new logs, but it won't magically figure out all the extra information from your old logs
[01:39] <Frogzoo> gharz: about 6 months :D
[01:39] <pyxel> Matthewv: damn i dont understand :(
[01:39] <LiteWait> hmm...worked with Breezy seemingly the same driver.  Maybe I didn't close down X conpletely.
[01:39] <Gerbils> Jereth_da_lion: Depends on usage, but it uses less.
[01:39] <Ng> Jereth_da_lion: that depends how much stuff you run
[01:39] <mandavi> does someone have the same problem with video that they run slow since dapper and there is a diagonal cut from the upper left to the lower right corner?
[01:39] <ifr> I just can't remember for the life of me the nmap command to scan an AP and show all the hosts connected to it. Can anyone help?
[01:40] <Gerbils> Ng: What if it doesn't use the setting for new logs..
[01:40] <gharz> Frogzoo, what do u mean about 6 months? the release dates are different? how about the features?
[01:40] <Matthewv> pyxel, you can't run gstreamer-properties ??
[01:40] <Frogzoo> gharz: ff1.5, clean LAMP setup, Taskjuggler, gnome 2.14 amongst others
[01:40] <Ng> Gerbils: then you'd need to investigate as to why
[01:40] <ifr> and man nmap doesn't just offer it up as an example
[01:40] <svigi_wlan> ifr, try iwlist wlan0 scan
[01:40] <Tobberoth> How do I configure my USB printer i just plugged in?
[01:40] <gharz> Frogzoo, thanks!
[01:40] <svigi_wlan> or not
[01:40] <Gerbils> Ng: The problem is that it doesn't recognise browser and robots.
[01:40] <svigi_wlan> iwlist eth2 peers
[01:40] <ifr> svigi_wlan that shows APs, not hosts connected to the AP I am on
[01:40] <chennaituxian> LiteWait: its always problem with this resolution stuff, it works at one place and not in the other
[01:40] <ifr> ?
[01:41] <pyxel> Matthewv: yes
[01:41] <svigi_wlan> the peers command lists all those, who are connected to your AP
[01:41] <pyxel> Matthewv: thanks anyway, i must go
[01:41] <Ng> Gerbils: hit the website a few times and wait until the next awstats cron job has run (tail -f /var/log/syslog) and see if it's doing it now
[01:41] <pyxel> thanks everybody !
[01:41] <Matthewv> no probs pyxel so do i :)
[01:41] <slackern> gharz: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html read the part about  highlights for this release
[01:41] <ifr> nice. except I got eth1      Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points
[01:41] <Tobberoth> nwm, i found it i think
[01:41] <ifr> There's an nmap command for this which works GREAT and I can't remember it ;(
[01:41] <Gerbils> Ng: It didn't :(
[01:41] <svigi_wlan> nmap?
[01:41] <svigi_wlan> i don't think so
[01:42] <svigi_wlan> try the wlanconfig command
[01:42] <ifr> I have used it many times, but KEEP forgettint
[01:42] <ifr> BUt I am positive about the nmap thing
[01:42] <svigi_wlan> are you using madwifi?
[01:42] <ifr> Nope
[01:43] <Gerbils> Ng: Logs are set combined, Awstats is set to read them as combined and Awstats is set to recognise robots. I have also waited through several cron and even restarted Apache. Still no luck..
[01:43] <svigi_wlan> wlanconfig eth1 list active  try this
[01:43] <ifr> ok
[01:43] <LiteWait> chennaituxian - reboot fixed it I am now running at 1400x1050.  Thanks...now if I could only find ndiswrapper :-(
[01:43] <Ng> Gerbils: has the site had any hits in that time? it may well be that no robots have been to it since you updated the configs
[01:43] <ifr> lemme try
[01:43] <noiesmo> ifr, theres a gui for nmap called nmapfe you can pick options and it will scan also shows the commandline
[01:43] <chennaituxian> LiteWait: if u found that one, temme too ;)
[01:44] <svigi_wlan> or ifr, you mean to scan a whole IP pool?
[01:44] <Mewshi> I love ubuntu
[01:44] <ifr> Thanks noiesmo
[01:44] <Gerbils> Ng: Yes, google, me and yahoo have visited it.
[01:44] <ifr>  nmap -oN activehosts.txt -vv -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[01:44] <ifr> something like that
[01:44] <kbrooks_> vbgunz: hey
[01:44] <chennaituxian> Mewshi: we all do !
[01:44] <gharz> slackern, thanks!
[01:44] <Mewshi> ubuntu is a lot better than debian
[01:44] <edneymatias> hello!
[01:45] <Ng> Gerbils: well then i would suggest that you check the configs again, but it definitely does work because I use awstats and combined logs
[01:45] <Nookie^> Mewshi: sometimes... but sometimes not
[01:45] <chennaituxian> Mewshi: no comments ;|
[01:45] <Mewshi> in my experience, it is
[01:45] <darth_> join #dcb
[01:45] <chennaituxian> Mewshi: ubuntu needs more community support
[01:45] <svigi_wlan> ifr, but your host blocks the ping it won't work
[01:45] <svigi_wlan> -sP is a ping scanning
[01:45] <Mewshi> i don't think so.
[01:46] <chennaituxian> Mewshi: why so ?
[01:46] <Mewshi> i mean, look at debian; their irc channel is a bunch of pricks...
[01:46] <Nookie^> can someone help me to test one bug which i found in ubuntu for xmms
[01:46] <Samuli^> chennaituxian, what are you saying?  Ubuntu has  great, supportive community.
[01:47] <chennaituxian> Mewshi: ubuntu has great supportive community.. am one amongst it too
[01:47] <Faileas> ;p
[01:47] <Mewshi> O-o
[01:47] <Mewshi> what?
[01:47] <Faileas> chennaituxian: i might have an answer to the apache thing, one moment ;p
[01:47] <Gerbils> Ng: Are there any other things I have to do to make it recognise robots/browsers? Other then the three things I mentioned?
[01:47] <iiiears> Good Morning Kamping_Kaiser
[01:47] <chennaituxian> Faileas: good, ;)
[01:47] <Jereth_da_lion> i need a simple answer to a simple question : once you get used to ubuntu it is eiaier to use then xp
[01:47] <Gerbils> It's different to use then xp
[01:47] <Mewshi> jereth_da_lion - YES
[01:47] <Samuli^> Jereth_da_lion, I'd say.
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> hey iiiears
[01:48] <Mewshi> 99% of the software you'll ever use is only a few clicks away, and much easier to install that on windows.
[01:48] <svigi_wlan> goodbye
[01:48] <Gerbils> It totally depends on your usage Jereth_da_lion
[01:48] <Jereth_da_lion> will i need to learn the command line commands by heart to do basic things
[01:48] <Ng> Gerbils: nope
[01:48] <Jereth_da_lion> graphic art
[01:48] <chennaituxian> Mewshi and Samuli^: afraid you misunderstood my words
[01:48] <Samuli^> Jereth_da_lion, no, but it helps.
[01:48] <Jereth_da_lion> i am looking now to aquire maya 7 for linux
[01:48] <Gerbils> Jereth_da_lion: Just give it a try!
[01:49] <Mewshi> They make maya for linux?
[01:49] <Jereth_da_lion> is thier a list in side linux of commands
[01:49] <MadMerC> can someone tell me how to add a cd as a repo using the command line please ???
[01:49] <chennaituxian> Jereth_da_lion: command line is more powerful than gui
[01:49] <Faileas> chennaituxian: first cd /etc
[01:49] <Gerbils> Jereth_da_lion: Or install vmware under Windows so you can see if it is for you :)
[01:49] <chennaituxian> Faileas: ok, then
[01:49] <Faileas> cd apache2
[01:49] <chennaituxian> ok
[01:49] <iiiears> I really like this list of bash commands http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[01:50] <Rambo3> man apt-cdrom
[01:50] <Faileas> sudo (editorofchoice) apache2.conf
[01:50] <Jereth_da_lion> yea i know but command line scares me i tried linux before and i couldnt get it to even read a cd
[01:50] <Faileas> then look there
[01:50] <Mewshi> I think there should be separate channels for ubuntu
[01:50] <Faileas> seperate from?
[01:50] <fairy> What's a good download manager I can use in Ubuntu?   I want to schedule and queue several downloads.
[01:50] <chennaituxian> Faileas: i did change the UserDir settings there, uncommented UserDir settings
[01:51] <Mewshi> Jereth_da_lion - ubuntu is different.  Very rarely will you need to touch a command line
[01:51] <Faileas> chennaituxian: restrated apache then?
[01:51] <Jereth_da_lion> thank goodness is it safe from viruses and such
[01:51] <chennaituxian> I havent checked yet..
[01:51] <fairy> Jereth_da_lion, Ubuntu's fairly forgiving for a Linux distribution :)  I've managed it so far.
[01:52] <chennaituxian> Faileas: join #ubuntu-in
[01:52] <fairy> and there's a very wonderful group of people (here, and on the wiki) to help when you encounter stumbling blocks.
[01:52] <Jereth_da_lion> that link dont work
[01:52] <iiiears> download manger. hm.. sleep command and wget from the command line. - (Ah okay it depends on how many files you need at one time.)
[01:52] <chennaituxian> fairy: righto!
[01:52] <Jereth_da_lion> ok well ive got it on my 20quid lapptop as a testbed i need to get it online next weekor so
[01:52] <Faileas> chennaituxian: i'm not in india
[01:52] <Faileas> i'm in singai ;p
[01:52] <Faileas> (singapore)
[01:52] <kholerabbi> Dose anyone know a non-command line way off closing a non responding program??
[01:53] <chennaituxian> Faileas: but still u can be thee ;)
[01:53] <fairy> iiiears, really only two, but, since I'm on dial-up, it pays to get a single file at a time, and I can only be online for extended periods late at night (it's actually morning now :P)
[01:53] <fairy> and I was looking for a solution to use in general, cause I'm sure I'll need it again.
[01:53] <Faileas> too many channels as is ;p
[01:53] <iiiears> ps -e to list it then killall <process ID number>
[01:53] <chennaituxian> Faileas: aha!
[01:53] <Samuli^> kholerabbi, system monitor?
[01:53] <Faileas> i am in #suse,#windows and #reactos ;p
[01:53] <fairy> kholerabbi, system monitor lets you kill processes
[01:53] <Faileas> already
[01:53] <chennaituxian> Faileas: #windows :O
[01:53] <LiteWait> chennaituxian - ndiswrapper in on the dapper cd, just "find" the .deb and install using dpkg.
[01:54] <Faileas> chennaituxian: windows is what we mostly use at work
[01:54] <chennaituxian> LiteWait: thanx dude
[01:54] <Jereth_da_lion> what was the games link again ?
[01:54] <Faileas> and well, i'm a platform agnostic ;p
[01:54] <chennaituxian> Faileas: its been 3 yrs since i logged in into a windows machine
[01:54] <kholerabbi> How do I open system monitor?
[01:54] <fairy> iiiears, sleep/wget would work if I were broadband me thinks, but since I'm dial-up, I don't think Ubuntu knows to connect when I attempt network activity.
[01:55] <Samuli^> koholerabbi system/administration/system monitor
[01:55] <mlowe> wget has resume
[01:55] <fairy> kholerabbi, in a default ubuntu installation it's under applications -> system tools
[01:55] <Faileas> chennaituxian: i have 2 linux distros and windows running in this room right now ;p
[01:55] <tritohc> so i think i f'd up my repositories and i'm not entirely sure of my backup either.
[01:55] <chennaituxian> kholerabbi: rather ads it to your panel, just a click will open it for yoou ;)
[01:55] <fairy> mlowe, resume's not the issue, it's dialing my connection at the proper time :)
[01:55] <tritohc> can i get a default off the install cd?
[01:56] <Samuli^> kholerabbi, just look it in the menus, it's in different place if you're using breezy or dapper.
[01:56] <chennaituxian> Faileas: my lappy came with windowz and its still there, but i don use :P
[01:56] <Samuli^> tritohc, what do you mean?
[01:56] <Faileas> chennaituxian: my laptop is windows only, i am on a SUSE install off my USB hdd
[01:56] <mlowe> fairy, you can use cron or at to run coommand at a particular time
[01:56] <Faileas> ubuntu is being tested to replace my WAMP server
[01:56] <chennaituxian> tritohc: what defaults ?
[01:57] <Pat__rick> Hello, I am having problems upgrading to 6.06, i tried following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades and created a CD to upgrade from it but the upgrader keeps connecting to the net and is trying to download over 150Megs on a dial up line!
[01:57] <Pat__rick> anyone has any idea how I can fix this ?
[01:57] <kholerabbi> Is there a keyboard shortcut to the system monitor?? (I believe widnows has a ctrl-alt-delete command)??
[01:57] <tritohc> samuli^: "The following packages have unresolvable dependencies"
[01:58] <fairy> mlowe, ^^; maybe I'm just expecting too much.  Really kinda was hoping for something similar to flashget for windows, it manages dialing a connection and everything :P  cron could schedule the connection, but, I don't know how I'd script it to know when it's actually connected and then start the downloads :P
[01:58] <Samuli^> tritohc, have you tried apt-get install -f?
[01:58] <kane77> hello... Is there anything for opening .rar files?? something advanced which can open passworded and split rars.. (eg filename.part1.rar, or .r00 etc..)
[01:58] <chennaituxian> kholerabbi: is said one shortcut for you, add it to panel
[01:59] <iiiears> Download manager.  d4x i looks pretty good.  (Haven't tried this.)   sudo apt-get install d4x
[01:59] <chennaituxian> tritohc: always try apt-get dude, it solves dependencies
[01:59] <NET||abuse> it's be nice if you could right click in naughtilus and select "open terminal here"
[01:59] <Samuli^> kane77, unrar? :D
[01:59] <NET||abuse> is there something like that around at all?
[01:59] <tritohc> Broken packages?
[02:00] <mlowe> fairy, use at to make connection, then once connection is made, you can wget the files
[02:00] <kholerabbi> ciao thanks
[02:00] <kane77> Samuli^, but I'm not sure wheter it extracts passworded and split archives...
[02:00] <Samuli^> kane77, it does.
[02:00] <albacker> guys, what's new in daper that wasn't in breezy?
[02:00] <kane77> Samuli^, Ok thanx...
[02:00] <chennaituxian> Daper roxxs in laptops
[02:01] <teckfatt> albacker: shutdown button windows
[02:01] <Pupeno> Does anybody know how do I write down in GnuCash the fact that I went to a bank and changed euros into pounds ?
[02:01] <Samuli^> kane77, and I mean the unrar command line, not the archive manager with rar-support. (it doesn't do passworded)
[02:01] <albacker> chennaituxian, what if i dont use a laptop
[02:01] <tritohc> why would a package be broken?
[02:01] <iiiears> Gutenprint - A more printer support.
[02:01] <chennaituxian> albacker: i said based on my experience :)
[02:01] <albacker> teckfatt, i dont think linuxers use linux cos it's like windows.. i dont call the shutdown button a new thing, i think it should get removed. anywya is there any new thing ?
[02:02] <chennaituxian> tritohc: thats out of our hands,many reasons
[02:02] <chennaituxian> try a different repos
[02:02] <tritohc> ok
[02:02] <mlowe> albacker, the release notes have a good sumary of what is new
[02:02] <Killaz> have you guys heard of snort?
[02:02] <albacker> mlowe, can you help me where to find it ?
[02:02] <fairy> Hrm... mlowe, hate to be a bother, but, how do I detect if the connection is actually established? or would I just schedule the connection command, and then schedule the downloads for like 3 minutes later (a safe amount of time to assume that a connection can be made.)
[02:02] <mlowe> albacker, 1 min
[02:03] <albacker> yhanks mlehrer
[02:03] <fairy> If it's too much trouble, no worries :)  just trying to figure it out, it'd actually be pretty nifty if there's a way to detect that, could just write a shell script to function as a connection/download manager :)
[02:03] <dingdong> whats the url to download ubuntu 6.0.6 Live cd??
[02:03] <mlowe> fairy, 1 script make connection, then wget -c all the file you need
[02:03] <albacker> s/ mlehrer  / mlowe
[02:04] <fairy> could even have it disconnect when finished downloading :)
[02:04] <chennaituxian> dingdong: check the ubuntu.org site
[02:04] <fairy> mlowe, but it's dial-up, the connection doesn't always go through, how do I detect if the connection was established properly?
[02:04] <fairy> or does pon keep retrying?
[02:04] <lilbit> I have downloaded vmware as a tar file, I have extratec the contents to a folder, and inisde is a *.pl that is the istall file, I forgot how to run a perl file like that to install, what is the syntax for running the pl file
[02:04] <lilbit> like ./
[02:05] <fairy> either way, pon executes immediately, and it'd execute wget before the connection was established, wouldn't it?
[02:05] <lilbit> or something like that?
[02:05] <mlowe> albacker, http://www.ubuntu.com/news/606released
[02:05] <albacker> mlowe, so ?
[02:05] <lilbit> can someone give me a quick tip on that
[02:05] <teckfatt> dingdong: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[02:05] <mlowe> lilbit, ./perlfilename
[02:05] <chennaituxian> lilbit, ./filename will do
[02:05] <fairy> IE: pon ppp0 && wget urlhere.    wget would fail cause no connection had been established despite the connection starting to be made :)
[02:06] <albacker> mlowe, thnx.
[02:06] <iiiears> dingdong - There some free file integrity checkers for you. md5summer. filealyzer (Windows)
[02:06] <lilbit> mlowe, thanks
[02:06] <lilbit> chennaituxian, thanks
[02:06] <mlowe> fairy, what is your connect comman ?
[02:07] <dingdong> guys not able to find still ubuntu 6.0.6 Live CD
[02:07] <dingdong> i check ubuntu.com/download alsa
[02:08] <fairy> mlowe, fairly sure it's pon ppp0.
[02:08] <LiteWait> ndiswrapper installs, wg111v2 won't load (it did with Breezy).  Anyone have a PCMCIA WiFi that just worked with Dapper?
[02:08] <jerethaway> how long ubuntu been around
[02:08] <Frogzoo> !ubuntu
[02:08] <ubotu> methinks ubuntu is a free GNU/Linux distribution. More at http://www.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[02:09] <Faileas> hmm
[02:09] <Faileas> is there an IRC server for ubuntu?
[02:09] <Hobbsee> Faileas: this is it, i thi;nk
[02:09] <Faileas> or would i need to download and install it some way?
[02:09] <Faileas> no no
[02:10] <Faileas> i mean to host your own
[02:10] <Faileas> like unreal or ircd
[02:10] <dingdong> teckfatt, iiiears chennaituxian where to find ubuntu Live CD?
[02:10] <mlowe> fairy, do you know shell programming ?
[02:10] <bimberi> jerethaway: first release was October 2004
[02:10] <bimberi> dingdong: it's the Desktop CD
[02:11] <jerethaway> wow 2 years 3 subreleases and a huge following it cant be that bad
[02:11] <lilbit> when I try to install vmware, I get the following "None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Workstation is suitable for your
[02:11] <lilbit> running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module for
[02:11] <lilbit> your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)?"
[02:11] <lilbit> then I proceed and I am told that install could not find the make utility
[02:11] <jerethaway> are kubuntu and xubuntu comprable in design ?
[02:11] <lilbit> do install gnu make?
[02:11] <fairy> mlowe, very basics, I don't claim to be a guru by any means. :)  the only thing I'm having trouble grasping is a method of detecting if/when the connection is actually there.
[02:11] <lilbit> and is that all?
[02:11] <dingdong> bimberi,  are you sure its not install cd and its a Live cd ??
[02:11] <Faileas> lilbit: do you have gni make?
[02:11] <fairy> cause I can run pon ppp0 all day long and if it's a shitty day :P it's possible it wouldn't connect ;)
[02:11] <Faileas> *gnu
[02:11] <lilbit> Faileas, no, don't have installed yet
[02:12] <Faileas> you need it
[02:12] <mlowe> fairy, ifconfig ppp0 will show if connection is made
[02:12] <bimberi> dingdong: it's a live cd that you can also install on - a first for ubuntu with this release
[02:12] <noiesmo> jerethaway, on is kde on xfce but the base is the same
[02:12] <albacker> i like UBUNTU, why should someone get kUBUNTU or smth like it ? gnome is the best..
[02:12] <noiesmo> on/one
[02:12] <bimberi> dingdong: s/on/from/
[02:12] <dingdong> bimberi, thanks
[02:12] <fairy> really? x.X; I thought that was only for NICs.  -checks-
[02:12] <Faileas> lilbit:  you need GCC and make IIRC, if you have issues, you may also need the any-any patch
[02:12] <fairy> ... how about that.
[02:12] <fairy> thanks mlowe :)
[02:12] <mlowe> yw
[02:13] <albacker> fairy, you use dial up ?
[02:13] <Faileas> albacker: i tend to prefer KDE, its a matter of different styles, its whatever suits you the best
[02:13] <dv_> hey people
[02:13] <fairy> albacker, yes.
[02:13] <mlowe> also pon, may return (sucess, or fail )
[02:13] <fairy> mlowe does it?  I've not seen that... -does another man command-
[02:13] <albacker> fairy, if you run dial up ? ou should run pppconfig first, create a connection, remember the name and do pon connection_name; or just run wvdial, !
[02:14] <albacker> pon connects poff disconnects.
[02:14] <fairy> I'm ignorant on wvdial :) but, I've been connecting through pon :)
[02:14] <fairy> albeit configured through ubuntu's networking :)
[02:14] <Faileas> hmm
[02:15] <albacker> fairy, run pppconfig.
[02:15] <Faileas> looks like i need a FTPD as well
[02:15] <Faileas> and some way to download stuff
[02:15] <fairy> The trick I was trying to accomplish and talking to mlowe about was how to schedule it to connect and download files at a certain time :) I couldn't figure out how to detect if the connection was made successfully.
[02:15] <iiiears> dingdong - If you need the Live/Install disk image it is on DVD, DVDs are  large and are (volunteer effort?) hosted on bittorrent links.
[02:15] <lilbit> Faileas, thank you for your help
[02:15] <lilbit> I will try that
[02:15] <fairy> albacker, I've already got a proper config file ^^;
[02:16] <jerethaway> how can they make it free or does everyone contribute to the effert
[02:17] <Samuli^> can you order ubuntu-dvd's?
[02:17] <mlowe> jerethaway, ubuntu main page has how to contribute
[02:17] <salah> hi. my laptop don't work so well if I plug in the power, why not?
[02:18] <iiiears> Comepletely free is truely amazing. - They will even mail a disk to your door via "shipit" for nothing.
[02:18] <iiiears> !shipit
[02:18] <ubotu> For free ubuntu CDs visit https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ . For kubuntu CDs visit http://shipit.kubuntu.org . For edubuntu CDs - http://shipit.edubuntu.org
[02:18] <albacker> fairy, if you have configured everything right ? than, what's the problem bothering you?
[02:18] <chennaituxian> mlowe: are u serious ?
[02:18] <mlowe> yes
[02:19] <Faileas> ok, another dumb question
[02:19] <chennaituxian> what does ur power monitor say ?
[02:19] <jerethaway> im  no programmer or anything fancy though all i do is high detail textures
[02:20] <Faileas> if i am on a CLI interface how do i find, and download packages i need, short of finding URLS, writing them down, and wgetting em
[02:20] <bimberi> Samuli^: no, you can only download the dvd image.  I'm sure there would be third parties that would sell them though
[02:20] <mlowe> jerethaway, they need translators, and artist
[02:20] <jerethaway> well ill see what i can do
[02:20] <fairy> albacker, I was trying to figure out how to schedule a connection, then execute commands once the connection was established.  Everything I'd known up to the point indicated that it'd run the command, then attempt to run the next command despite the connection not being complete and only in progress, causing the second command to fail :)
[02:20] <lilbit> in my case, I am trying to install vmware  workstation 5.5, and it requires that I have GCC installed, my question is, I noticed that I have 2 versions of GCC installed, but not others, so does a program install require a specific version of GCC, and if so, how do I know what version it wants?
[02:20] <jerethaway> does the standad ubuntu disk have scorched 3d on it ?
[02:20] <Faileas> lilbit: it'll ask you
[02:20] <Fjodor> Faileas: You could apt-cache search <name>, then sudo apt-get install <package>
[02:21] <Faileas> Fjodor: the packages are not there
[02:21] <Fjodor> Faileas: Or you could use aptitude
[02:21] <chennaituxian> fairy, u can write a script to do that
[02:21] <Fjodor> Faileas: Hmmm
[02:21] <Faileas> Fjodor: from CLI?
[02:21] <Faileas> and aptitude?
[02:21] <Fjodor> Faileas: aptitude is like synaptic, but CLI
[02:21] <bimberi> jerethaway: nope
[02:22] <Faileas> lol
[02:22] <fairy> chennaituxian, -nods- working on it, or trying anyways :)
[02:22] <albacker> fairy, i didnt get it.. :(
[02:22] <lilbit> Faileas, it did not ask, but even though by default it looks like dapper comes with 3.0 and 4.0 installed, I guess maybe it's looking for 3.4
[02:22] <chennaituxian> Faileas: are you a LAMP guy ?
[02:22] <Fjodor> Faileas: Btw., you could browse and download with 'links'
[02:22] <albacker> fairy, to connect into the itnernet, all i do  is pppconfig; than pon connection namel; than poff; if poff doesnt work i just use killall pppd !
[02:22] <aalya> hello, i dotn understand the doc, how can i do for have the permission for my ntfs partition, ty
[02:22] <Faileas> chennaituxian: WAMP, trying to learn LAMP
[02:22] <Fjodor> Faileas: links is a cli browser
[02:22] <Faileas> ahh
[02:22] <chennaituxian> Faileas: good
[02:22] <lilbit> what is LAMP?
[02:22] <_grout> when i install dapper on my sata drive when i restart it says error loading OS
[02:22] <iiiears> !lamp
[02:23] <mlowe> albacker, his problem is solved (i think)
[02:23] <ic56> aalya: what is the problem with your NTFS?
[02:23] <iiiears> Linux Apache Mysql PHP lamp
[02:23] <Faileas> lilbit: Linux Apache Mysql Php
[02:23] <chennaituxian> fairy, script = pon, check the log with grep, if true proceed the download...
[02:23] <Faileas> though Mysql and PHP are sometimes changed
[02:23] <chennaituxian> ya
[02:23] <iiiears> !botsnack
[02:23] <ubotu> thanks iiiears :)
[02:23] <chennaituxian> Perl, python also holds true
[02:24] <Tobberoth> hmm.. cat /proc/asound/cards lists my audigy2
[02:24] <Tobberoth> but I still get no sound in abuse
[02:24] <lilbit> Faileas, so then what is WAMP?
[02:24] <aalya> ic56, i cant read it only in root :(
[02:24] <albacker> mlowe, well i couldn't know it, because i still didn't understand his problem :S
[02:24] <_grout> when i install dapper on my sata drive when i restart it says error loading OS, how to i change bootloader settings during install?
[02:24] <Faileas> lilbit: Windows Apache Mysql Php
[02:24] <agt> hi folks, I am able to play a DVD with Totem or Xine on 6.06 i386... but without sound ! I do get sound with Rhythmbox / Radio though. Any idea ?
[02:24] <fairy> chennaituxian :)
[02:24] <aalya> ic56, i dont understand what i do add in my fstab
[02:24] <iiiears> !ubotu lamp is Linux Apache MySQL and PHP.
[02:24] <ubotu> ...but lamp is already something else...
[02:24] <Faileas> however Mac AMP is called AMP as well ;p
[02:24] <fairy> thanks muchly for all the help :)
[02:25] <Faileas> !lamp
[02:25] <chennaituxian> ur welcome, fairy
[02:25] <wes> how do i get the MS fonts on this ubuntu system like i did with my suse??
[02:25] <lilbit> Faileas, ok
[02:25] <Frogzoo> !lamp
[02:25] <Corey> hello im about to learn c++ i need a compiler apprently
[02:25] <_grout> lol
[02:25] <mlowe> wes, apt-get install mstcorefonts
[02:25] <chennaituxian> Faileas: LAMP has many variants
[02:25] <traveller> i'm using dapper and the only audio i get from tvtime is static, anyone know why is this?
[02:25] <ic56> aalya: I think I know what's wrong.  There are 3 ways we can proceed. 1. I can walk you through it manually, explaining each step.  2. I can tell you to download a tool that will do this for you automatically.  3. I can tell you to download the latest version of that tool which I need tested.  Pick 1-3.
[02:25] <agt> Corey: g++ ?
[02:25] <Faileas> Corey: just a compiler or a programming environment?
[02:26] <chennaituxian> corey, compilers are there, man g++
[02:26] <albacker> Corey, apt-get install g++
[02:26] <dv_> I just got an external hard drive (250 gb), and wonder what FS I should use. fat32 is clearly not useful for 250gb, and I want to avoid multiple partitions
[02:26] <Faileas> chennaituxian: i am aware of that, almost everything in a WAMP stack is swappable
[02:26] <Faileas> dv_: what OSes? and what purpose?
[02:26] <agt> dv_: do you need to read/write from Windows ?
[02:26] <chennaituxian> corey, if u want GUI try eclipse, anjuta
[02:26] <wes> how do i do that??
[02:26] <dv_> should I use ext2? it should be readable from windows too, and there are some extra tools for windows to read ext2
[02:26] <Faileas> dv_: it works pretty well
[02:27] <aalya> ic56, the nale Pick 1-3 ?
[02:27] <dv_> but I do not know how reliable they are
[02:27] <chennaituxian> dv_ windows cant read ext2/3 on its own
[02:27] <lilbit> "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:27] <lilbit> kernel?" now I am getting this, and when I just hit enter it says that the directory is invalid/
[02:27] <agt> wes: open a Terminal, then type: "apt-get install mstcorefonts"
[02:27] <aalya> ic56, nale = name*
[02:27] <Frogzoo> dv_: you can access ext3 with the windows ext2 driver - obviously this runs without journalling
[02:27] <dv_> chennaituxian, yes, thats what I mean with extra tools
[02:27] <_grout> when i install dapper on my sata drive when i restart it says error loading OS, how to i change bootloader settings during install?
[02:27] <Faileas> lilbit: depends on your install i think
[02:27] <albacker> Corey, i'd recommend getting vi as your code editor, it's good, you have a GUI version of it called gvim, you can get it bu apt-get install gnome-vim or gtk-vim, you have others and emacs is one of them, as for the compiler apt-get install g++, but i think you already have it on your PC !
[02:27] <Corey> I need a compiler im a complete noob to C++ it needs linking... i think does that sound familiar ?
[02:27] <ic56> aalya: which option do you prefer? 1, 2, or 3?
[02:27] <dv_> Frogzoo, so the ext2fs is pretty mature?
[02:27] <chennaituxian> lilbit: check whether u have glibc ?
[02:27] <iiiears> Sevea s wrote a nice script to automate finding and automatically mountin all available partitions. (Even for MAcs) winmac_fstab.sh
[02:27] <wes> it wont let me do it
[02:28] <mlowe> wes, "sudo apt-get install mstcorefonts"
[02:28] <aalya> ic56, if the 2e work, i take it :-)
[02:28] <Faileas> Corey: try codeblocks
[02:28] <Frogzoo> !winext2
[02:28] <ubotu> winext2 is, like, totally, http://www.fs-driver.org/ or http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[02:28] <Faileas> IIRC its called that
[02:28] <chennaituxian> and apt-get g++ should solve that problem, hopefully
[02:28] <wes> still nothing
[02:28] <iiiears> A little poking around in that script will show you disk commands and bash scripting.
[02:29] <ic56> aalya: 2. will work but we'll have to spend extra time to fix what you have done so far.  Option 3 automates that step.  Your choice.  I'm willing either way.
[02:29] <lilbit> chennaituxian, will do
[02:29] <Corey> you sure its g++ and not C++ ?
[02:29] <albacker> Frogzoo, how can you access ext3 from windows ? what app. does this ? i have an app but i have to copy files into windows partition before reading them, so all it does is "copy fils into linux partition into windows". thats all.
[02:29] <mlowe> wes, go to wiki, enable repositories then ......
[02:29] <dv_> albacker, there is ext2fsd as mentioned before
[02:29] <wes> where's wiki?
[02:29] <dv_> also, I know a similar project called ext2fs
[02:29] <Frogzoo> !tell albacker about winext2
[02:29] <chennaituxian> corey, try gcc
[02:29] <dv_> (afaik has nothing in common with winext2)
[02:29] <mlowe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[02:29] <Corey> ok is there a c++ channel ?
[02:29] <wes> lol im not that great with linux
[02:30] <agt> Corey: g++ is a C++ compiler/linker
[02:30] <albacker> Corey, c++ is the programming language, and g++ is the compiler, which transforms the source code into excecutable file !
[02:30] <chennaituxian> corey, google for g++
[02:30] <mlowe> wes search box is top right
[02:30] <Corey> ah I see, ive installed g++ whre is it thoe ?
[02:30] <Hobbsee> Corey: yes there is
[02:30] <albacker> dv_, i use ext2fs but it doesnt really _READ_ the files, its used for copying them into windows than reading them.
[02:30] <aalya> ic56, for you, what are the easier
[02:30] <wes> can you do private chat with me?
[02:30] <ic56> aalya: I prefer #3.
[02:30] <chennaituxian> corey, man g++
[02:30] <lilbit> chennaituxian, when i check my repositories, only glibc-documentation comes up
[02:30] <dv_> oh damn
[02:30] <Corey> I got g++ now
[02:30] <agt> Corey: to compile test.cpp (C++ code), g++ -o test test.cpp
[02:30] <mlowe> wes rather not
[02:30] <albacker> but i might have an old version..
[02:31] <dv_> I forgot that other people want to be able to read from it
[02:31] <lilbit> chennaituxian, so no, its not installed and not available with the repositories I have
[02:31] <Corey> ok im a complete noob never written a thing in c++ ever
[02:31] <chennaituxian> lilbit, do a apt-get install glibc
[02:31] <dv_> and I cant count on them having ext2fs or similar stuff installed
[02:31] <slackern> im using http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ext2ifs.htm to access my ext3 from windows
[02:31] <dv_> so fat32 :/
[02:31] <albacker> Frogzoo, thanks.
[02:31] <D4rksh4de> can anyone help me install ubuntu, i have problems with creating partitions
[02:31] <chennaituxian> corey, we were once upon
[02:31] <Corey> im very new anybody want to private chat and help me setup its to hard to read from here
[02:31] <dv_> hows the NTFS state?
[02:31] <wes> i dont get this.. i dont have "wiki" when i search for it
[02:31] <Faileas> read only, write is chancy IIEC
[02:31] <Corey> or kopete ?
[02:31] <Faileas> *IIRC
[02:31] <albacker> chennaituxian, gcc is for C code not C++
[02:31] <chennaituxian> corey, its nothing harder than learning to use IRC :p
[02:32] <Corey> I've learnt php to an acceptable level.
[02:32] <wes> ok nvm, i found it
[02:32] <_grout> how do i change bootloader setting during install?
[02:32] <zebarbu> Hi, can you point me to a source for recent (post dapper) packages?
[02:32] <wes> now what do i do?
[02:32] <Frogzoo> !captive
[02:32] <chennaituxian> albacker, know it.... C is mother of C==
[02:32] <ubotu> somebody said captive was a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[02:32] <lilbit> chennaituxian, can't find that package
[02:32] <Corey> so it looks vaugly similar
[02:32] <chennaituxian> C++8
[02:32] <mlowe> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28repositories%29
[02:32] <Frogzoo> !tell zebarbu about easysource
[02:33] <wes> mlowe?
[02:33] <D4rksh4de> I have problems with creating partitions, can anyone help me?
[02:33] <orbin> anyone notice gnome-terminal lags on startup? it wasn't like this in breezy
[02:33] <mlowe> wes, did you try the link i just pasted to channel ?
[02:34] <wes> not yet, i am
[02:34] <orbin> _grout: what do you mean?
[02:34] <zebarbu> Frogzoo, what is the name of the next release?
[02:34] <_grout> how do i change bootloader setting during install in dapper?
[02:34] <albacker> mlowe, he has partitioning problems not repos problems !
[02:34] <aalya> ic56, i suceed manualy, ty
[02:35] <ic56> aalya: ok. congratulations.
[02:35] <mlowe> wes, albacker, i thought he wanted mstcorefonts ?
[02:35] <Frogzoo> !edgy
[02:35] <ubotu> Edgy Eft is the next codename for Ubuntu dapper+1. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000064.html.  initial release timeline - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-June/000144.html
[02:35] <wes> ok so by that i can enable repositories?
[02:35] <ben> hello all. where has the configuration editor gone in dapper? i want to enable desktop icons for computer, trash, etc
[02:35] <D4rksh4de> it just dont let me create partition :(
[02:35] <mlowe> wes, albacker, yes, enable universe and multiverse
[02:35] <wes> noo, i dont have part. problems, i can part. i have stupid font problems lol
[02:35] <dv_> hmm then again, since this HD is supposed to be for temporary data only,
[02:35] <Faileas> !changing password
[02:35] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Faileas
[02:35] <dv_> I could simply reformat when necessray
[02:35] <Frogzoo> ben: apps -> accessories -> Alacarte
[02:35] <dv_> necessary
[02:36] <lilbit> is anyone here running vmware workstation 5.5 on dapper?
[02:36] <shrump_jimbo> D4rksh4de are you using the installer ?
[02:36] <ben> Frogzoo, ah!
[02:36] <ben> Frogzoo, thanks
[02:36] <dv_> are there some negative impacts for the HD if I format it more often than usual?
[02:36] <D4rksh4de> shrump_jimbo: yes
[02:36] <wes> ok now what do i do?
[02:36] <Faileas> lilbit: i am running it on suse, i assume your stuck at config.pl?
[02:36] <ben> lilbit, no but i am going to - what are you planning on doing?
[02:36] <D4rksh4de> shrump_jimbo: it wont let me create swap partition
[02:36] <lilbit> Faileas, no, wont install
[02:36] <mlowe> wes, "sudo apt-get update"
[02:37] <iiiears>    lilbit - I have tried it. The Browser appliance on the VMWare site is ubuntu breezy badger. - works pretty well. -
[02:37] <wes> in terminal??
[02:37] <lilbit> ben, I ask, because I am having trouble installing
[02:37] <mlowe> yes
[02:37] <Faileas> lilbit: install or config?
[02:37] <Faileas> there's a difference
[02:37] <lilbit> Faileas, install
[02:37] <Faileas> what error message?
[02:37] <wes> i opened the repository thing and it says "software sources" then its got add remove edit stuff and CD names lol
[02:37] <ben> lilbit, oh, ok. i was going to use it to run some vms of windows
[02:37] <inrelief> does WEP encryption screw w/bittorrent?
[02:38] <mlowe> wes just check all repositories
[02:38] <lilbit> this is what I am stuck on now    "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[02:38] <lilbit> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[02:38] <lilbit> "
[02:38] <chennaituxian> lilbit: i might have been wrong with the name
[02:38] <Faileas> thats in config
[02:38] <wes> is that the stuff under where it says "software sources"?
[02:38] <Faileas> usually that works fine as long as you have gnu make installed
[02:38] <mlowe> wes you dont need source
[02:38] <Faileas> oh, and the source for your kernel
[02:38] <wes> well you said check them lol
[02:38] <wes> what do i check??
[02:39] <D4rksh4de> is it ok to install without swap partition?
[02:39] <Faileas> er
[02:40] <lilbit> chennaituxian, ok
[02:40] <Faileas> if you have loads and loads of ram, maybe
[02:40] <mrDaniel> a installation without spaw is possible
[02:40] <D4rksh4de> i have 512
[02:40] <D4rksh4de> mb
[02:40] <Faileas> swap partiton == windows pagefile
[02:40] <orbin> wes: sources as in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:40] <mlowe> wes, the 4th image on page has (Binary) , all the ones the have "Binary"
[02:40] <albacker> D4rksh4de, swap partition is needed if you dont have enought RAM.
[02:40] <Faileas> D4rksh4de: swap would not be a bad idea
[02:40] <D4rksh4de> well, i cant create it
[02:40] <Kaja> You can create a swapfile on for example ext3.
[02:40] <iiiears> D4rksh4de: You can but un less you like tweaking swappiness it is to be avoided.
[02:40] <D4rksh4de> installer wont let it
[02:40] <Faileas> o0
[02:41] <D4rksh4de> i can create ext3 but no swap
[02:41] <wes> i did that sudo apt-get update thing
[02:41] <jdmpike> by the way... XGL is really, really, really, really, really cool
[02:41] <D4rksh4de> ill try ext3 then...
[02:41] <mlowe> wes, did you enable all repositories 1st ?
[02:41] <albacker> why can't you create it ?
[02:41] <donfilipo> hi my radeon 9000 pro runs on AGP 1x ...game armegetron shows that....so after a while any 3d apllication freezes the whole system alomst completly....any help?
[02:41] <orbin> jdmpike: really?
[02:42] <wes> how?? i dont get how you enable the repository list??
[02:42] <D4rksh4de> i wonder if there is any limitation of partitions?
[02:42] <jdmpike> orbin, yes - really, really, really!
[02:42] <albacker> D4rksh4de, sure you can.
[02:42] <iiiears> jdmpike - Yeppers. - Ya gotta love true transparency and rotating desktops.
[02:42] <mlowe> wes, you are running gnome ?
[02:42] <wes> hep
[02:42] <wes> yep*
[02:43] <D4rksh4de> i have currently 3 partitions and maybe it is maximum?
[02:43] <wes> ubuntu linux 5.10
[02:43] <Kaja> 4 primary partitions is the limit
[02:43] <mlowe> wes, run synaptic package manger like it shows in 1st image
[02:43] <jdmpike> uhh ohh.... I am having some performance issues play DVDs in XGL... what do I do to fix that?
[02:43] <D4rksh4de> umm
[02:43] <albacker> jdmpike, XGL is the thing that adds cool effects to gnome ? iight ?
[02:43] <jdmpike> albacker, iight
[02:44] <wes> ok.. then i go to settings and repository
[02:44] <mlowe> correct
[02:44] <wes> then what
[02:44] <mlowe> wes, keep following the page, let me know when you get stuck
[02:44] <albacker> D4rksh4de, no its not maximum, i used to have 3FAT32 and 2ext2, and one swap, so guess !!
[02:44] <albacker> i used to partition my partitions, partitioning is fuckd up.
[02:45] <wes> do i check them all??
[02:45] <albacker> i hate how linux is transforming itself, into Good and COol gui. I got into linux for the Terminal/console and commands, i dont like menus.  I use apache2 with combined logs, awstats config has been set to combined.
[02:47] <albacker> i didnt sat i wanted only terminal, i can install one of those floppy distros. but i dont like everything to be gui. there are alinux users who never open xterm :( !
[02:47] <Faileas> albacker: its a matter of choice
[02:47] <D4rksh4de> Frogzoo: i have 1st partition made as extended too
[02:47] <Faileas> if you want to use CLI you can, if you want to use GUI you can too
[02:48] <D4rksh4de> Frogzoo: and there are 2 partitions
[02:48] <Faileas> i don't see why everything *shouldn't* be gui
[02:48] <D4rksh4de> Frogzoo: and it wont let me create 3rd one
[02:49] <albacker> guys im compiling something, and it says i dont have GTK, how come ? im running gnome, and so i installed libgtk2.0-dev and it still says same, what should i get ?
[02:49] <d34db14ck> how can i dail again if my connection drops. i get the error on -sudo pon :/usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option '/dev/modem'
[02:49] <albacker> no sorry, everything solved :)
[02:49] <albacker> i had to reconfigure after downloading libgtk-dev !
[02:49] <inrelief> does azureus act odd for anybody else?  odd meaning the health icon isn't displayed, disk read errors, and the inability to close the error dialogs?
[02:50] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  me to
[02:50] <shrump_jimbo> D4rksh4de you might be able to do it with cfdisk or qtparted from a knoppix disk then try reinstalling
[02:50] <Frogzoo> D4rksh4de: that's because you've used up your extended partitions - you need to have the 4th primary as extended (otherwise you lose 3 partitions)
[02:50] <inrelief> d34db14ck, glad it's not just me -- guess now we need to find a solution ;)
[02:50] <Faileas> hmm
[02:50] <Faileas> how do i change my password in CLI?
[02:50] <Fjodor> Faileas: passwd
[02:50] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  yeah :)
[02:51] <Frogzoo> D4rksh4de: but you should be able to create at least 4 extended partitions, so maybe you've allocated all your space
[02:51] <Faileas> Fjodor: thanls
[02:51] <visik_> ok
[02:51] <Faileas> *thanks even
[02:51] <Fjodor> Faileas: Np
[02:51] <Faileas> i had set my password as password ;p
[02:51] <eCokeNCod> ok, guys ... just now when i shut down my pc port 1350 was open
[02:51] <inrelief> so to the rest of the channel, d34db14ck and I have some funky azureus problems -- including but not limited to the inability to shut the error dialogs, anybody have a solution?
[02:51] <eCokeNCod> rebooted, because it was running like crap, and now port 4132 is open
[02:52] <ALd_s> why does x still run at runlevel 3
[02:52] <spikeb> heh inrelief i quit using azureus because of that
[02:52] <eCokeNCod> how do i find out which process is associated with these open ports /
[02:52] <eCokeNCod> ?
[02:52] <orbin> inrelief: /j #azureus
[02:52] <d34db14ck> spikeb:  so what do u use now?
[02:52] <inrelief> spikeb, what do you reccomend?
[02:52] <TheSheep> eCokeNCod: netstat -p
[02:52] <inrelief> d34db14ck, haha
[02:52] <spikeb> d34db14ck, i haven't found anything that works better than the gnome bittorrent client yet, unfortunately
[02:52] <d34db14ck> inrelief: ;P
[02:53] <d34db14ck> spikeb:  that doesn't work too well for me either. i get very poor ratio
[02:53] <inrelief> spikeb, that is a shame.  Faileas-however i don't have a windows system ;(
[02:53] <spikeb> d34db14ck, yeah but it runs
[02:53] <spikeb> d34db14ck, heh
[02:53] <huhn> hey
[02:53] <albacker> d34db14ck change the /dev/modem with the port of your modem.
[02:53] <eCokeNCod> ok this looks weird, somebody tell me where the pastebin is
[02:53] <Faileas> inrelief: yeah, but its a damn fine client, REALLY small
[02:53] <kermitX_> gnome-bittorrent works pretty well.. you just dont get the fancy stats & stuff.
[02:54] <inrelief> azureus works fine for me on my gentoo box........
[02:54] <huhn> I got windows up and running now I wanna install ubuntu as a second os.
[02:54] <huhn> is there anything I should mind?
[02:54] <wizzlefish> make sure you have enough space :)
[02:54] <inrelief> Faileas, agreed.  utorrent is prolly the best out there, shame it hasn't been ported
[02:54] <spikeb> inrelief, what JRE are you running azureus against?
[02:54] <wizzlefish> (huhn)
[02:54] <huhn> I asked the same thing yesterday, ubotu sent me a link but I lost it.
[02:54] <TheSheep> huhn: you can backup your MBR if you're paranoid :)
[02:54] <rem_> itll probably work under crossover office ... :P
[02:54] <eCokeNCod> hey guys,where's the ubuntu pastebin ?
[02:54] <albacker> d34db14ck, do this : sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf and see your port. it should be smth like /dev/ttyS0 or smth else.
[02:54] <d34db14ck> albacker:  how
[02:54] <d34db14ck> k
[02:54] <eCokeNCod> !tell eCokeNCod about pastebin
[02:54] <huhn> I just put in the cd and start installing, right? nothing more to mind
[02:55] <wastrel> <3 wvdial
[02:55] <D4rksh4de> Frogzoo: ok, let me explain: i have 120gb hdd, 1st partition is 80gb then next is extended and it contains 30gb and now i try to make 2 more on the extended, i was able to create 9gb partition but i cant create more (after creating it wont show it on the list, the list where you choose to format (after that is install))
[02:55] <TheSheep> !tell me about pastebin
[02:55] <albacker> d34db14ck, stage one, open terminal.
[02:55] <d34db14ck> lol ok
[02:55] <inrelief> spikeb, 1.4.2
[02:55] <d34db14ck> albacker: :D not that noob
[02:55] <shrump_jimbo> huhn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning?highlight=%28partitioning%29
[02:55] <D4rksh4de> Frogzoo: what should i do?
[02:55] <Corey> guys i need a C++ comiler/editor for linux GUI
[02:55] <albacker> d34db14ck, stage two, type into the terminal  sudo wvdialconf /etc/wvdial.conf
[02:55] <huhn> i think that was the one :)
[02:55] <Corey> GUI.. I NEED IT GUI lol
[02:55] <d34db14ck> albacker: no modems detected
[02:55] <Faileas> Corey: code blocks
[02:56] <orbin> Corey: anjuta
[02:56] <bullrage> Hi all. I have easytag open but forgot to gksudo it before running it, and now I can't save the tags on some files. Is there a way I can do that without restarting the application?
[02:56] <Corey> thanks
[02:56] <inrelief> spikeb, apperently 'gij', which i'm not familiar with....
[02:56] <d34db14ck> albacker:btw i have pppoe conection
[02:56] <spikeb> Corey, look through the add/remove app, that is what it is for
[02:56] <CokeNCode> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15244
[02:56] <aalya> how to know lan/ip ty
[02:56] <spikeb> inrelief, try running it against sun's java
[02:56] <CokeNCode> can anyone tell me what hte HECK is going on htere
[02:56] <kermitX_> bullrage, chown the files to your username.
[02:56] <albacker> d34db14ck, you probably have an internal modem.
[02:56] <inrelief> spikeb, i was just gonna do that ;)
[02:56] <CokeNCode> am i being hacked or what ?
[02:56] <huhn> no it wasn't. however I've already made a 11 gb partition for ubuntu, this should be sufficient, right?
[02:56] <d34db14ck> albacker: ethernet adapter
[02:56] <bullrage> kermitX_, I'm new.  :S
[02:56] <d34db14ck> no
[02:56] <d34db14ck> adsl
[02:56] <kermitX_> bullrage, are your mp3's all in the same directory or subdirectories?
[02:57] <wizzlefish> I have the Breezy Badger install CD, and I don't really want to make another one for Dapper Drake - can I upgrade within Ubuntu?
[02:57] <spikeb> yes wizzlefish
[02:57] <albacker> d34db14ck, bah, dunno.
[02:57] <MaLk> wizzlefish: yes, just rename breezy to dapper in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:57] <albacker> d34db14ck, but what do you want to do, you're already connected ? right ? what's the problem ?!
[02:57] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: looks ok
[02:57] <Drago84> nulla
[02:57] <CokeNCode> TheSheep ok, thanks ... why all those connections tho
[02:58] <d34db14ck> albacker:  lol oky. the problem is my conection has been failing alot recently. my isp is making upgrades so i don't want to restart every time
[02:58] <MaLk> wizzlefish: then do sudo apt-get update and sudo atp-get dist-upgrade
[02:58] <shrump_jimbo> CokeNCode whoever john is their logged in ssh
[02:58] <wizzlefish> thanks, MaLk
[02:58] <bullrage> subdirectories kermitX_
[02:58] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: hpiod is the Hewlett Packard Imaging and Printing system, apparently it uses a network socket for communication -- it only listens on localhost though
[02:58] <kermitX_> bullrage, where? your home dir? or somewhere else? say /media/windows/music/ or something?
[02:58] <notos> I have a SpeedStream 5200 Router how can i make so others can see my apache server?
[02:58] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: so you can only connect from your own computer
[02:58] <albacker> d34db14ck, i dont think i can help :( i use dial up myself, so i know a shit on other things
[02:59] <Faileas> notos: port redirection, you should be able to do it through the web interface of your router
[02:59] <Frogzoo> notos: you need to forward port 80 from the router
[02:59] <bullrage> kermitX_, /media/downloads/ then in subdirectories in there. Once I've tagged them I mvoe them to /media/music
[02:59] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: I assume the two ipv6 connections are yours?
[02:59] <kermitX_> bullrage, dapper 6.06 or earlier ubuntu?
[03:00] <d34db14ck> albacker:  ok dude thx for trying tho ;)
[03:00] <bullrage> kermitX_, Dapper
[03:00] <d34db14ck> any one on adsl? how can i dail if link drops?
[03:00] <barros> can I use the rt2570 driver shiped with drapper in WPA2+AES mode?
[03:00] <kermitX_> bullrage, is /media/downloads/ a windows partition?
[03:00] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: if they are not yours, then that's the hacker ;)
[03:00] <bullrage> kermitX_, Ext3
[03:00] <albacker> d34db14ck, np
[03:01] <notos> uhm i have done it but ... if i enter my public ip on my router it forwards to my Router Config page :(
[03:01] <inrelief> d34db14ck, just remembered something...azureus does require java5+, so using blackdown, or any other free jre prolly won't cut it
[03:01] <buzzed> where do you set the default browser?  I can launch from the menu bar but not from other applications
[03:01] <buzzed> since upgrading to Dapper
[03:01] <kermitX_> bullrage, and i suppose you have a slew of changes queued up to write?
[03:01] <Frogzoo> d34db14ck: in /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider enable options persist & maxfail
[03:02] <bullrage> kermitX_, correct
[03:02] <CokeNCode> ok, there we go, down to one open port
[03:02] <d34db14ck> Frogzoo:  so it will automatically retry?
[03:02] <Frogzoo> d34db14ck: yep
[03:03] <d34db14ck> Frogzoo:  thanx mate
[03:03] <kermitX_> bullrage, have you used a terminal session before?
[03:03] <bullrage> kermitX_, yes
[03:04] <Frogzoo> d34db14ck: yw
[03:04] <orbin> buzzed: sys > prefs > preferred apps
[03:04] <kermitX_> bullrage, what do the permissions and ownership of one of those files look like?  ls -l /media/downloads/somedir/*.mp3
[03:04] <d34db14ck> Frogzoo:  one more thing. i found the persist line so do i add & maxfail to it?
[03:05] <buzzed> thx
[03:05] <CokeNCode> I don't feel secure ... why were all those ports open ... someone help me out with security
[03:05] <buzzed> what are the thoughts on Epiphany?
[03:05] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: are the two ipv6 connections yours?
[03:05] <bullrage> kermitX_, -rw-r--r--
[03:06] <TheSheep> buzzed: fast, comfortable, simple to use
[03:06] <kermitX_> bullrage, and owner/group?
[03:06] <notos> Faileas, I ve' done that but if i put my public ip address i get the config page of my router
[03:06] <kermitX_> bullrage, root i am guessing?
[03:06] <CokeNCode> TheSheep mmm, you mean over ssh ?
[03:06] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: yes
[03:06] <CokeNCode> yeh
[03:06] <TheSheep> CokeNCode: phew! :)
[03:06] <shrump_jimbo> CokeNCode: http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO//packet-filtering-HOWTO-5.html
[03:06] <CokeNCode> lololol
[03:06] <bullrage> kermitX_, root.
[03:06] <D4rksh4de> lawl, buggy installer :(
[03:06] <d34db14ck> Frogzoo:  man
[03:06] <D4rksh4de> crashed
[03:06] <d34db14ck> Frogzoo:  persist & maxfail
[03:07] <inrelief> spikeb, thanks for the kick the the face on the java jre -- hadn't even thought about it, but azureus is running much much much smoother now
[03:07] <inrelief> spikeb, can't believe i forgot to grab sun's
[03:07] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  what did u doo?
[03:07] <spikeb> inrelief, hehe
[03:07] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  installed java?
[03:07] <inrelief> d34db14ck, downloaded sun's jre (1.5), and switched the default jre from the free one (forget what it was called) to sun's
[03:08] <CokeNCode> thanks shrump_jimbo and TheSheep
[03:08] <shrump_jimbo> np
[03:08] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  ok i'll try
[03:08] <inrelief> d34db14ck, the ubuntu wiki page on restricted formats tells you how to switch jre's
[03:08] <evert_> hello
[03:09] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  thanx a bunch mate
[03:09] <Jemt> I have a weird problem. My internal wireless network card is not found on every boot. It might show up if I reboot my machine - but not always. Is this a known bug ?
[03:09] <Jemt> (In Dapper)
[03:10] <inrelief> d34db14ck, anytime -- definitely helps to have more than one head tackling a problem.
[03:10] <inrelief> now i just have to figure out if the torrent i'm downloaded is generally slow, if WEP is screwing with bittorrent, or if azurues is still being clunky
[03:10] <evert_> I'm having a lot of trouble installing nvidia drivers on linux , i (nearly) tried every method , but it always failed. I had the same problem with ubuntu 5.10. But with SUSE i hadn't a problem at all ... Can somebody help me pls ?
[03:10] <D4rksh4de> The Application "time-admin" has quit unexpectedly.     -_-
[03:10] <Frogzoo> inrelief: d34db14ck sun's 1.5 jre is in the stock repos...
[03:10] <kermitX_> bullrage, try sudo chown -R bullrage.users /media/downloads   (where bullrage is your username)
[03:10] <Nookie^> evert_: what is your problem?
[03:11] <D4rksh4de> the installer just dont like me :(
[03:11] <inrelief> Frogzoo, i don't think that was ever an issue......
[03:11] <kermitX_> bullrage, then check the ownership of a file in there again.
[03:11] <d34db14ck> Frogzoo:  persist & maxfail ? where do i add that?
[03:11] <d34db14ck> in the file
[03:11] <wastrel> it's raining in nyc
[03:11] <evert_> When I install nvidia drivers (the methods i tried) , i can't get in X any more and i have to change in my xorg.Conf nvidia back  again to the nv driver
[03:11] <evert_> with not getting in X , i mean that the screen just stays black :(
[03:11] <Frogzoo> d34db14ck: /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider     -  "maxfail 0"
[03:12] <bullrage> kermitX_, it works, thanks.
[03:12] <TheSheep> evert_: is numlock working when the screen is black?
[03:12] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: try adding pre-up sleep 5 to ifconfig
[03:12] <wizzlefish> arg, I forgot it already - where did I have to change "breezy" to "dapper?"
[03:12] <Frogzoo> d34db14ck: man pppd if you want more info
[03:12] <evert_> numlock ? what has a black screen to do with numlock ? Never pressed numlock then
[03:12] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Add? How?
[03:12] <inrelief> man...watching deer hunter at 9 in the morning is not really an uplifting way to start the day
[03:12] <TheSheep> evert_: black screen can mean a lot of things
[03:12] <wizzlefish> was it "/ect/apt/sources/"?
[03:13] <TheSheep> evert_: I had a problem with nvidia drivers that hung the whole computer hard
[03:13] <TheSheep> evert_: so even numlock didn't work
[03:13] <jerethaway>  thanjks for the help your a great group
[03:13] <d34db14ck> Frogzoo: k
[03:13] <evert_> I don't know , I just can't do a thing any more ... When i got the driver problem i need to reboot in safe mode
[03:13] <evert_> how did you solved the problem TheSheep ?
[03:13] <jerethaway> bye
[03:13] <chewyf5> hello i#ve got a problem with intel_hda (using dapper)
[03:13] <TheSheep> evert_: try adding option "nvagp" "0"
[03:14] <d34db14ck> !pppd
[03:14] <ubotu> d34db14ck: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:14] <TheSheep> evert_: it turned out to be a problem of my agp
[03:14] <evert_> in my xorg.conf under the line 'driver' 'nvidia' i just add "nvagp" "0" ?
[03:14] <TheSheep> evert_: first try with agp disabled
[03:14] <evert_> i also got agp ..
[03:14] <evert_> ok i'm giving the agp 0 thing a trie
[03:14] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: Find the part in /etc/network/interfaces for your card then add 'pre-up sleep 5' directly underneath it (will be something similar to 'iface ath0 inet dhcp' (won't work if you use network manager)
[03:14] <TheSheep> evert_: write:  Option "NvAGP" "0"
[03:15] <chewyf5> is there anyone how can help me
[03:15] <evert_> Ok , i'm going to try that , i'm back in a few minutes ,hopefully with a working nvidia driver :)
[03:15] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Ah, ok. What does it do ?
[03:15] <lilbit> looks like I got VMWARE running, I found this "http://www.stoltenow.com/archives/2005/11/getting_vmware.html"
[03:15] <evert_> i need to put that option under the driver nvidia line ?
[03:15] <Frogzoo> chewyf5: more info needed..
[03:15] <TheSheep> chewyf5: if only we knew what your problem is...
[03:16] <r3set> hi, i've got a problem with my runlevels, everytime xserver (xorg) is running i'm not abled to access my runlevels (black screen)
[03:16] <h3sp4wn> jemt: Just waits for 5 seconds to allow the driver to settle before launching dhcp
[03:16] <Frogzoo> !tell r3set about fixres
[03:16] <chewyf5> TheSheep: I can't hear any sound, nothing is mutet
[03:16] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: But.. the network card is not detected at all - it dosn't show up in Administration -> Networking
[03:16] <chewyf5> alsamixer is working fine
[03:16] <d34db14ck> how can i change the default application for an extension
[03:17] <bootwoes> helpp
[03:17] <DBO> !helpme
[03:17] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[03:17] <r3set> Frogzoo, i don't think that's my problem ;)
[03:17] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: You said sometimes
[03:17] <bootwoes> i've did chmod 777 -R /
[03:17] <bootwoes> now nothing works
[03:17] <Frogzoo> d34db14ck: right click -> properties -> open with
[03:17] <bootwoes> how can i fix this
[03:18] <bootwoes> ?
[03:18] <DBO> bootwoes, and how
[03:18] <SeanTater> bootwoes: you're toast
[03:18] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Yes, sometimes. But how would it help me stalling the DHCP process for 5 seconds?
[03:18] <Frogzoo> r3set: 3 to 1 it is ....
[03:18] <r3set> i'm using a notebook
[03:18] <DBO> bootwoes, ...yeah, you could fix it, but reinstall might be eisier than getting clever
[03:18] <wastrel> bootwoes:  boot from a rescue disk, backup important data, and reinstall
[03:18] <d34db14ck> i want mplayer to handle video files not movie player. how do i change that?
[03:18] <bootwoes> whats the default permissions supposed to be
[03:18] <bootwoes> ive booted via livecd
[03:18] <Frogzoo> r3set: if the server can't find a usable mode, the screen will stay black - you need to fix your xorg.conf
[03:18] <bootwoes> i was thinking i could just put it back
[03:18] <bootwoes> no?
[03:19] <SeanTater> bootwoes: Reinstall = 1 hour, Fix = weeks
[03:19] <TheSheep> bootwoes: every file has different default permissions
[03:19] <DBO> bootwoes, no, not really...
[03:19] <bootwoes> sonnafabitch
[03:19] <wastrel> bootwoes:  there's hundreds of files you'd need to fix
[03:19] <bootwoes> doh
[03:19] <inrelief> d34db14ck, did you get java 1.5 installed?  azureus is flyi'n for me now
[03:19] <DBO> bootwoes, dont know why you did that, but stop it
[03:19] <r3set> okay, but like i said, xserver hasn't got problem, i've got a problem when switch from xserver to shell
[03:19] <r3set> *a problem
[03:19] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  i'm dl it now :) thanx for the unpade mate
[03:20] <r3set> *switching
[03:20] <bootwoes> yeah...
[03:20] <SeanTater> bootwoes: so why did you want every file 777 anyway?
[03:20] <bootwoes> i was going to back it up
[03:20] <d34db14ck> inrelief:  did u portforward it?
[03:20] <bootwoes> i forgot to just remount it instead
[03:20] <bootwoes> thats one lesson i wont be forgetting
[03:21] <DBO> bootwoes, yes indeed
[03:21] <wastrel> welcome to the club!  we all have at least one of those :]
[03:21] <lzap> how to install Vim7?
[03:21] <lzap> hi all :-)
[03:21] <bootwoes> thanks fellas
[03:21] <SeanTater> bootwoes: I've done my fair share of computer related stupid stuff too
[03:21] <DBO> configure, make, and checkinstall lzap
[03:21] <inrelief> d34db14ck, yeah, portforwarding is all good
[03:22] <blakcheez> how do I set MIME types?
[03:22] <lzap> I tried to remove the "vim" package, but I stopped since apt warned me about removing ubuntu-base :-( a bit dangerous...
[03:22] <DBO> bootwoes, I once did a dd in reverse... bad day for my mbr
[03:22] <DBO> lzap, just install it to opt
[03:22] <lzap> DBO: I have heard that checkinstall is not safe...
[03:22] <wastrel> i decided to get rid of my mount points (rm -r /mnt/)  before unmounting our windows file and print server
[03:22] <bootwoes> no idea what a dd is but it sounds bad
[03:22] <bootwoes> heh
[03:22] <wastrel> after about 5 minutes i'm like "why is this taking so long"
[03:22] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: Sometimes if the driver isn't initialised properly when dhclient is run then it fails
[03:22] <SeanTater> lzap: try asking apt - ubuntu-base may just be a metapackage
[03:22] <d34db14ck> where do i manage file types and their associate applications?
[03:22] <SeanTater> lzap: so removeing it may not be that big of a deal
[03:22] <DBO> lzap, i dont see how it could be any less safe than doing make install...  its just in how you use it
[03:23] <DBO> rm -rf is not safe either....
[03:23] <cyne> i have installed java runtime 5 (sun) from the add programs dialog.... but i still don't have java in firefox.. what's up with that?
[03:23] <lzap> I have found the packages for Dapper here, but I am not sure if it is safe to upgrade the original vim packages (http://www.freshnet.org/wordpress/blog/2006/05/24/vim-7-for-ubuntu-dapper-e-breezy/)
[03:23] <kimo> Guys, anyone knows of unofficial kernels for sid (with swsusp2 support ...?) I don't wanna compile my own
[03:23] <feg> im experiencing some problems running fglrx on a fresh dapper install. is it correct to blacklist radeon kernel module in order to have fglrx working correctly?
[03:23] <cyne> hi enyc :)
[03:23] <nox-Hand> Hey
[03:23] <enyc> ;-)
[03:23] <enyc> thats funny
[03:23] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: But again - what does dhclient has to do with the network card? It's just a service that assignes an IP - to my knowledge. I might be wrong. And what if I were using static settings?
[03:23] <enyc> I have mailboxes @  cyne.enyc.org.uk
[03:24] <DBO> feg, you dont have to no
[03:24] <cyne> do i have to install blackdown java as well as sun jave 5?
[03:24] <cyne> java
[03:24] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: I'm just trying to understand the core of the problem here :)
[03:24] <enyc> cyne: no dont think so
[03:24] <Frogzoo> cyne: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:24] <Aeudian> Alrighty i got a problem, after logon to ubuntu (gui) it locks up upon loading gnome, it also locks up if i select failsafe terminal.  The only access i can get to this system is when i boot into fail recovery.  As of right now the machine sits on the Gnome Loading spalsh screen after account login
[03:24] <SeanTater> DBO: hey, while you're at it, I can;t get fglrx to work on my computer either -- it still uses MESA.
[03:24] <feg> DBO, so i have only to add fglrx in /etc/modules without blacklisting anything?
[03:24] <cyne> thanks Frogzoo
[03:25] <Some_Person> How do I get my Realtek AC97 working on Breezy?
[03:25] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: It ask
[03:25] <Frogzoo> cyne: yw
[03:25] <TheSheep> Aeudian: you can always press alt+ctrl+f1 to get into the text mode?
[03:25] <enyc> cyne: in ubutnu-dapper you sholud nood to install the relevant nevv java from multiverse and  do the ''sudo update-alternatives --config java'' or semething like that
[03:25] <DBO> feg, you dont have to add that to /etc/modules either... did you read the walkthrough?
[03:25] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: ?
[03:25] <DBO> SeanTater, how did you install?
[03:25] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: "It ask" ?
[03:25] <Aeudian> TheSheep: no i cant the prompt wont come up there either
[03:25] <h3sp4wn> Jemt: asks the network for an ip but if the network card is not initialised then then it will fail
[03:25] <TheSheep> weird
[03:25] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Oh, IC
[03:25] <Aeudian> TheSheep: its like the resources of system could be getting slammed
[03:25] <Jemt> h3sp4wn: Thank you :)