[09:06] <nocturn> How can I get the java-plugin to work on a 64-bit machine (Ubuntu Hardy)
[09:06] <bleedingmoon> x1250, what is fsck?
[09:06] <IntangibleLiquid> anyone familiar with Axioo laptops? are they good?
[09:06] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
[09:06] <x1250> bleedingmoon: $ man fsck
[09:06] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I'm using the official nVidia drivers I think. My xorg.conf is identical to what it was in 7.04. But I'll take a look
[09:06] <ikonia> pepe_swash: it's a terrible technoloyg
[09:06] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: your not using -p
[09:06] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: mysql -u root -p
[09:06] <bleedingmoon> well nvm
[09:06] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: show me the "Driver" line
[09:06] <axion> ..so free-up 6gb on the external drive by copying to the internal drive.. and install on the external drive..
[09:06] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, if you are installing, you will need the Alternate CD
[09:06] <ferronica> magnetron: http://i31.tinypic.com/2q175us.png
[09:07] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: so then it asks for a password and I've tried the password I set up on the box but I still get access denied
[09:07] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: there is no password
[09:07] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Driver		"nvidia"
[09:07] <magnetron> ferronica: good luck
[09:07] <ferronica> magnetron: now doing integrity check
[09:07] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, so if you do an "lsmod" do you see the nvidia driver loaded ?
[09:07] <tau> axion: I thought you couldn't boot to a partition on an external drive?
[09:08] <axion> of course you can, that was in the middle-ages
[09:08] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yes it is listed.
[09:08] <pepe_swash> distrojockey: hey. thanks again. i got an advice from you yesterday already and as you can imagine, that changed nothing.
[09:08] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: set the password with "mysqladmin
[09:08] <tau> axion: ok, that might work!  I'll run it past him.. thanks
[09:08] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: for arguments sake, do a glxgears -info just to see if glx is loaded
[09:08] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: When I boot I get the nVidia splash is displayed. Don't know whether that indicates it is working or not.
[09:08] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: yeah, thats a pretty good clue
[09:08] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, ahh, sorry. Find it hard to remember sometimes (nothing personal) :)
[09:09] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yeah it displays the gears.
[09:09] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: just let me ponder
[09:09] <axion> tau make a 100mb partition on the internal drive and mount it as /boot just to be on the safe side
[09:09] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: No worries. Thanks for the help so far.
[09:09] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, but yeah, as ikonia said, better off making a software raid during the install
[09:09] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: can we do a little test pleas.e
[09:10] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Of course.
[09:10] <x1250> bleedingmoon: something like $ sudo fsck -y /dev/hda1, where -y attempts to fix errors without asking
[09:10] <axion> other whise make sure ubunut install grub on (hd1) in stead of (hd0)
[09:10] <arooni__> help!  i have my time set to auto update based on time servers... and its set up for vancouver time zone.... but it still shows the time as 5:03PM even though its 1:05AM....   ideas?
[09:10] <tau> axion: the most he can shrink the volume is 7MB !
[09:10] <ferronica> magnetron: http://i28.tinypic.com/5ea1iw.png
[09:10] <pepe_swash> distrojockey: of course. no problem. problem is that i have a windows install on that array, cannot trash it. in fact, i' need to dual boot on it. Looks like i'm doomed.
[09:10] <bleedingmoon> nah i just dont feel like messing around with it
[09:10] <smallfoot-> start.ubuntu.com uses a google that goes to .co.uk
[09:11] <smallfoot-> i dont like
[09:11] <axion> don't froget to set the bios to boot off of usb  before trying of internal hdd
[09:11] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, ahh, that's not something I have tried (or wish too) ;)
[09:11] <DistroJockey> have not^
[09:11] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: can you close all your applications except for irc and the desktop
[09:11] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: eg: nothing "running" other than the ssytem
[09:11] <tau> axion: ok
[09:12] <ferronica_> http://i28.tinypic.com/5ea1iw.png
[09:12] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: (fyi, this is not conclusive, just to give me a little more info)
[09:12] <ferronica_> magnetron: http://i28.tinypic.com/5ea1iw.png
[09:12] <axion> tau when ubuntu gives you the summary of what it's about to do ( just before installing ) you can change (hd0) to (hd1) in the grub settings..
[09:12] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Do you want me to close unused processes. Or just shut the windows.
[09:12] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: nah, as though it has just booted up
[09:12] <pepe_swash> distrojockey: i have a slight masochist tendency , i guess. I always get in deepest troubles. Do you think dmraid could do the trick?
[09:12] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, only way I can think is to stick in another drive for Ubuntu and use Windows bootloader to boot it
[09:12] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: I'll have to look into this further, guess I really dont know waht I'm doing yet, time for more reading
[09:13] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: eg: booted up and logged into irc
[09:13] <ikonia> (roughly)
[09:13] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: man mysqladmin
[09:13] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, might, not really played with raid much. Been planning too. (need more time :()
[09:13] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: yep already reading
[09:13] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: mysqladmin -u root password 'newpassword'
[09:13] <dubby> !info openslp
[09:14] <smallfoot-> !info openslp
[09:14] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Did you actually want me to reboot to be sure? I closed everything (plus the tracker is still closed from earlier).
[09:14] <dubby> !help
[09:14] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: nah thats fine
[09:14] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: this is just a rough test
[09:14] <hyde> hello
[09:14] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: Still giving me errors
[09:14] <dubby> !openslp
[09:14] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: what is the error
[09:14] <hyde> my computer restart by it self
[09:14] <pepe_swash> Distrojockey: np. thanks for trying. :) rebooting to see what dmraid will tell me. :s
[09:15] <hyde> when i'm using ubuntu
[09:15] <hyde> what should i do
[09:15] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, best of luck
[09:15] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: root@ZappBrannigan:/var/www# mysqladmin -u root password testpass
[09:15] <kaoticsnow> mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[09:15] <kaoticsnow> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)'
[09:15] <FloodBot1> kaoticsnow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:15] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: No worries, what's next?
[09:16] <pepe_swash> distrojockey: ty.  see you.
[09:16] <DistroJockey> pepe_swash, np, later
[09:16] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: open an xterm
[09:16] <x1250> kaoticsnow: thats -ptestpass
[09:16] <x1250> IIRC
[09:16] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Done
[09:16] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: open "top"
[09:16] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: run top sorry
[09:16] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yeah I realised what you meant :P
[09:16] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: is mysql actually running
[09:17] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: does ps -ef | grep mysql show it running
[09:17] <axion> anybody know how to get a : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XP4m32 (rev 91) to work ?
[09:17] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: CPU total usage is about 19%... which is one of the reasons I was so confused.
[09:17] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: leave it for a minute or two, you should see it settle down, and from what your saying have pretty low usage
[09:17] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: give it a minute and confirm it's "ticking over"
[09:17] <kaoticsnow> ikonia:  /usr/sbin/mysqld is running
[09:18] <x1250> kaoticsnow: try mysqladmin -u root -ptestpass
[09:18] <x1250> with now space between -p and the password
[09:18] <x1250> no space I mean
[09:18] <kaoticsnow> with no space?
[09:18] <kaoticsnow> kk
[09:18] <dubby> hey anyone have any luck with fwbuilder?
[09:18] <ArthurArchnix> If I install a command line system, it should probably install the software needed to run my ethernet card right?
[09:18] <ikonia> dubby: many times
[09:18] <ikonia> ArthurArchnix: no
[09:19] <ikonia> ArthurArchnix: restricted driver manager would not run
[09:19] <dubby> ikonia : ok i wish to block port 85 from being able to be used by anything but local user..
[09:19] <ikonia> ArthurArchnix: the restricted drivers are also only available int he desktop install
[09:19] <dubby> using eth0
[09:19] <ikonia> dubby: andy ?
[09:19] <ikonia> and
[09:20] <DistroJockey> ikonia, ArthurArchnix : what about server based installs, sure they install network drivers
[09:20] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: xorg is using about 5-10% ... IRC is using about 0.7-5% and screen saver process and top are using about 0.7%
[09:20]  * goto1 http://rapidshare.com/files/111454070/Nuke.rar.html <---- download Nukes ( Badwidth killers ) :)
[09:20] <DistroJockey> surely^
[09:20] <ikonia> DistroJockey: not restricted drivers - no
[09:20] <dubby> ikonia: I try make any sort of firewall and it does not wish to install nor am i able to obtain the current firewall settings using builder, i can through using iptables commands
[09:20] <tau> axion: thanks for your help.. cya
[09:20] <cctv> Hi, I could use some help. Actually a lot of help...
[09:20] <ikonia> dubby: sounds like your using fwbuilder wrong
[09:20] <goto1> http://rapidshare.com/files/111454070/Nuke.rar.html <---- download Nukes ( Badwidth killers ) :)
[09:20] <cctv> Need help setting up my disks in raid, and installing some software, anyone want to take a stab at it?
[09:21] <kaoticsnow> this is getting frusterating, it just spits out the documentation for mysqladmin
[09:21] <shadowxp> Is there a way to specify which site apt-get uses?
[09:21] <axion> no problem tau
[09:21] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, that seems good, now I want you to open firefox, and you should see it appear in the list - look at a.) how quickly it spikes to 100% cpu, and look how long it stays there, also watch the other processes around it while thats going on
[09:21] <ikonia> ccvt is this a fakeraid setup ?
[09:21] <DistroJockey> ikonia, that's fair enough (guess I don't use restricted network cards)
[09:21] <ikonia> shadowxp: yes the sources.list file /etc/apt
[09:22] <ikonia> DistroJockey: server = not meant for home hardware
[09:22] <realityiswhere`> shadowxp, go into system, administration, software sources, then click the "download from", same thing ikonia just said but a GUI way.
[09:22] <BadManiac> My board supports raid0 in hardware, but linux doesn't seem to like it
[09:22] <ikonia> DistroJockey: hence no nvidia drivers, boradcom onboard cards etc etc
[09:22] <shadowxp> okay
[09:22] <shadowxp> thanks
[09:22] <ikonia> BadManiac: thats fakeraid
[09:22] <BadManiac> the alt installer CD still detects to separate disks, and then errors out
[09:22] <ikonia> BadManiac: fakeraid has terrible support, and in my view is unstable and a waste
[09:22] <axion> I have been searching andlessly and neither cyblafb nor tridentfb (kernel framebuffer) nor the cyberblade/trident drivers (Xorg)work
[09:22] <DistroJockey> ikonia, fair enough also :)
[09:22] <BadManiac> Well, here's the deal, I have 2 500GB sata disks
[09:22] <nathan5603> Good evening
[09:22] <axion> I can only use vesafb/x-vesa
[09:23] <BadManiac> I want to use them as one single continous space, to store cctv camera captures
[09:23] <ikonia> BadManiac: use linux software raid
[09:23] <ikonia> BadManiac: but truth be told, I'd again advise strongly against and raid0 setups
[09:23] <nathan5603> Has anyone had any luck getting Ubuntu to connect through rdesktop to windows?
[09:23] <BadManiac> Can I set that up after installing ubuntu?
[09:23] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: According to top it only made it to 91% (probably too slow to update), its now oscillating between 10-50%
[09:23] <ikonia> BadManiac: you can
[09:23] <schitzo> hi
[09:23] <BadManiac> Yay, so, help!
[09:23] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, interesting, thank you
[09:23] <kaoticsnow> =(
[09:24] <BadManiac> erk, wont let me priv. Spam in main it is then :p
[09:24] <nathan5603> Good evening, has anyone had any luck running IE 6 in Wine?
[09:24] <hyde> hello
[09:24] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Why are you thanking me, you're helping me :P
[09:24] <schitzo> not sure
[09:24] <hyde> anyone that would like to help me with some ubuntu problems say my nick name
[09:25] <SitUbuntuSit> nathan5603, ie4linux, google and get that
[09:25] <ikonia> BadManiac: just getting you a forum post I wrote
[09:25] <BadManiac> coolness
[09:25] <nathan5603> SitUbuntuSit thanks for the advice.
[09:25] <SitUbuntuSit> nathan5603, it works fine is relatively easy to get up and running :)
[09:25] <SitUbuntuSit> *and
[09:25] <BadManiac> will also need some help installing the software from sourceforge. But I'll do it in baby steps heh
[09:26] <axion> hello
[09:26] <hyde> how you use this thing
[09:26] <Jazman_brewer> hey on quick question how do i install programs from my hard drive
[09:26] <DistroJockey> hyde, just ask away
[09:26] <hyde> i just see many people joining
[09:26] <Jazman_brewer> that i have already downloaded
[09:27] <fde> BadManiac: see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek for assistance with that, the Packaging 101 courses specifically... very interesting, and easy to follow
[09:27] <hyde> who is away
[09:27] <DistroJockey> !ask | hyde
[09:27] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: thansk for the help but nothings working I'm just going to have someone reset the root password later
[09:27] <ikonia> BadManiac: check this post out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=745131 this should get you stared, pay close attention to the bit that says "you cannot have /boot on a raid 0 or 5 partition"
[09:27] <fde> BadManiac: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment for more indepth stuff, but the OpenWeek logs link to that.
[09:27] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: how are you going to have someone reset the root password ?
[09:27] <hyde> oh
[09:28] <hyde> thanks
[09:28] <DistroJockey> np
[09:28] <ikonia> BadManiac: that is the wrong thread - one moment, sorry
[09:28] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, they be .deb packages?
[09:28] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Stumped?
[09:28] <Jazman_brewer> tbz i think
[09:28] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: dont know yet
[09:28] <Kennie`> hi, do you suggest to update a box _remote_ from 6.06 to the least 8.04? or leave it on 6.06?
[09:28] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: just doing a little playing over here
[09:29] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Ok thanks
[09:29] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: what you've said points at video card issues, but - that doesn't appear the case
[09:29] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, extract the dirs and files and follow the readme
[09:29] <Jazman_brewer> sorry tarz
[09:29] <hyde> i install ubuntu a few days ago in my laptop but when i shut down my laptop it does not turn off
[09:29] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: would you be itnerested a in slightly more intrusive test ?
[09:29] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yeah no worries.
[09:29] <fde> Kennie`: You can wait a bit to get any late fixes and some security updates... still have a year on dapper I think
[09:29] <ikonia> BadManiac: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=454116&highlight=raid
[09:29] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, all good tarz come with a readme :)
[09:29] <ikonia> BadManiac: that should give youa  good guide
[09:30] <BadManiac> So, I can't boot from raided disks? Then how would you suggest setting this PC up?
[09:30] <Kennie`> fde : yes, but then it means i'm in the same situation next year? ;)
[09:30] <co_mo_CO> arjuna
[09:30] <BadManiac> thanks ikonia
[09:30] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: first, have you got some sort of insane high resolution
[09:30] <Jazman_brewer> i was hoping not to install that way im used to self install from windows first time linux user
[09:30] <ikonia> BadManiac: you create a seperate /boot partition that can either be a single disk, or mirrored
[09:30] <fde> Kennie`: No, because they'll fix most of the issues with upgrading by then, and it'll be mostly seamless  :)
[09:30] <Jazman_brewer> sofar i look it up on add remove
[09:30] <shiesty> yo
[09:30] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Nah only 1024x768
[09:30] <hyde> my ubuntu does not turn off it just freeze on the  black  screen UBUNTU
[09:30] <ikonia> BadManiac: but keep in mind ANY file system corruption on your raid0 array, and you'll be re-installing the whole OS
[09:30] <fde> Kennie`: Besides, I'm not really saying a year, just a few months or so...
[09:30] <Jazman_brewer> this os is a big diff to what im used to
[09:31] <Kennie`> fde : ok, that makes sense :) - thanks
[09:31] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, I want you to change the Driver "nvidia" line to Driver "vesa" in your xorg.conf and restart X please.
[09:31] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, you may need to change the scope of what is listed in Add/Remove
[09:31] <fde> Jazman_brewer: Where are you coming from?
[09:31] <edibrac1> say i'm on kernel 2.6.24 and I want to downgrade 2.6.18 - i can do that in one apt-get command?
[09:31] <BadManiac> I have two physicla disks, both 500GB, can I keep them setup as they are, with the ubuntu install and the swap partition on disk 0, and then raid the rest of disk 0, along with all of disk 1?
[09:31] <fde> edibrac1: do you have a 2.6.18 kernel in /boot already? (vmlinuz)
[09:32] <ikonia> BadManiac: read the post I sent you
[09:32] <Jazman_brewer> how do i chabge a scope
[09:32] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, Synaptic in the System - Administration area is better in most ways
[09:32] <BadManiac> on it :)
[09:32] <Jazman_brewer> i have fidled with
[09:32] <fde> edibrac1: Don't go any further back than that though, that one had a local root exploit possible
[09:32] <Jazman_brewer> i got wine going
[09:32] <Jazman_brewer> just have to get music prog going with it
[09:32] <fde> edibrac1: Uhh, that one fixed the root kit...
[09:32] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, in Add/Remove where it says Show: change it there
[09:33] <fde> Jazman_brewer: Why not use Ubuntu apps for music and movies?
[09:33] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Is there anyway to restart X without rebooting (does ctrl-alt-backspace do it?)
[09:33] <Jazman_brewer> i am at the mo
[09:33] <BadManiac> Yeah, Im gonna need some more in depth guidance, I dont even know how to get to the command line... Been using MS products including dos for 21 years, I#m a bit lost in this alien linux world. Sorry...
[09:33] <jk_> if i use tar -cvf does that compress as well as archiving?
[09:34] <fde> Boredom_inc: It does, yes... or /etc/init.d/gdm restart ... which is cleaner  (do it from ctrl+alt+f1 though)
[09:34] <Jazman_brewer> well i will work this tarz instal out
[09:34] <Jazman_brewer> got to get dinner back soon
[09:34] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, what's the package?
[09:34] <Boredom_inc> fde: thanks
[09:34] <DistroJockey> snap
[09:34] <hyde> my ubuntu does not shut down it just freezes does anyone know the cause
[09:35] <DistroJockey> hyde, my only "guess" is acpi issues
[09:35]  * fde thinks it's weird that ctrl+alt+f1 mutes sounds in X
[09:35] <theveryend> ouch
[09:35] <hyde> so what should i do
[09:35] <student> hi
[09:35] <jk_> !tar
[09:36] <DistroJockey> hyde, what laptop have you got?
[09:36] <fde> Boredom_inc: ctrl+alt+f7 will get you back to X btw whenever you go to a tty (what is on ctrl+alt+f1-6)
[09:36] <kelvin911> why the fonts in hardy is so thick?
[09:36] <hyde> toshiba satellite m45-s331
[09:36] <edibrac1> god i hate Twiki
[09:36] <student> how to install frostwire?
[09:36] <fde> (ctrl isn't necessary, but it works, and it's easier to remember if you only remember 1 thing)
[09:36] <arooni> is there a way to 'favorite' a particular AP in gutsy?  my gutsy laptop always seems to pick the WRONG ap to try to connect to.  thanks!
[09:36] <veliouras> hello guys
[09:36] <SitUbuntuSit> student, download the deb from frostwire.com
[09:36] <arooni> also it seems to spin endlessly in trying to connect
[09:36] <IntangibleLiquid> I sometimes get a problem with hibernation. After getting back to the system my eth0 no longer works.
[09:36] <edibrac1> i say, dokuwiki or mediawiki is the way to go - twiki is too ugly
[09:37] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I restarted x
[09:37] <hyde> Distrojockey i have toshiba satellite m45-s331
[09:37] <IntangibleLiquid> student: you need to first remove the open source jre version and install the version from sun
[09:37] <veliouras> i am interested in buying a usb wireless adaptor that can work directly with ubuntu
[09:37] <IntangibleLiquid> student: because Frostwire doesn't work with the opensource jre
[09:37] <veliouras> any suggestions?
[09:37] <DistroJockey> hyde, k, looking around a bit. Not really my area.
[09:38] <student> i already try to install the frostwire but it does not load on the desktop. what should i do?
[09:38] <hyde> oh
[09:38] <IntangibleLiquid> student: as I said, remove the open source version of jre and install the sun version
[09:38] <student> ahh... how to remove what is the command
[09:39] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I didn't get the nVidia splash but nvidia is still listed under lsmod... is that normal?
[09:39] <IntangibleLiquid> student: I prefer synaptic
[09:39] <hyde> Distrojockey i used to have xp home install in my computer I got many times the blue screen about the BIOS and ACPI i try to look for an update but nothing
[09:40] <student> can i find that in the system package manager?
[09:40] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: thats fine
[09:40] <SitUbuntuSit> do a search for java there and remove it. then you can install the sun java6 plugin and it will select the java jre and bin files you need
[09:40] <IntangibleLiquid> student: it's the synaptic package manager under Menu-System-Administration
[09:41] <dupin> student : synaptic is system package manager
[09:41] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: I figured out why mysqladmin isnto working, there is already a password set up and that command only allows you to set a new pass, I need to reset wahtever password is currenlty set on myslq
[09:41] <student> thanks
[09:41] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Things are probably just as slow (maybe a bit slower, not sure really)... glxgears doesn't wgh
[09:42] <veliouras> i am interested in buying a usb wireless adaptor that can work directly with ubuntu
[09:42] <dupin> student : in synaptic search box type java and you will see wich one is installed.Delete it
[09:42] <DistroJockey> hyde, not turning up much here. Do you know or can find out what BIOS you are running?
[09:42] <veliouras> any suggestions?
[09:42] <x1250> kaoticsnow: you can purge mysql-server and reinstall it, and choose a new password
[09:42] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: work*, which i presume is meant to happen when not using correct 3D drivers
[09:42] <xxxxxxx> where can I find the hardyheron server iso. could not find it on ubuntu.com
[09:43] <dupin> student :then type in serch box sun and you will find sun-java6-bin
[09:43] <punisher> hi
[09:43] <punisher> any body speack in russian?
[09:44] <SitUbuntuSit> yes, many russians do
[09:44] <punisher> my english is no good
[09:44] <student> thanks dupin
[09:44] <dupin> student : np
[09:44] <SitUbuntuSit> !ru | punisher
[09:44] <hyde> well i have ubuntu bios i guess
[09:45] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: no luck http://paste.ubuntu.com/8863/
[09:45] <punisher> I like ubuntu and want help this
[09:45] <sirmike1970md> hi all how do i install themes in kubuntu
[09:45] <hyde> Distrojockey i guess i have ubuntu bios but when i used to have xp i had 2.0 bios
[09:45] <SitUbuntuSit> there is a #kubuntu channel sirmike1970md
[09:46] <IntangibleLiquid> !kubuntu | sirmike1970md
[09:46] <punisher> Please, help me with my webcam at notebook
[09:46] <kelvin911> how to edit sources.list??
[09:46] <moon`> bah!
[09:46] <icqnumber> !kde
[09:46] <kelvin911> sudo gedit sources.list ??
[09:46] <SitUbuntuSit> punisher, join #ubuntu-ru
[09:46] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Let me know if you have any more ideas. Thanks
[09:46] <punisher> I have cam on Bisoncam chipset and cat`t find driver
[09:46] <DistroJockey> hyde, check against here:  http://tinyurl.com/5gsl82
[09:46] <edibrac1> is there a good reason to move from ubuntu to debian?
[09:46] <dupin> kelvin911 : gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:47] <kelvin911> why gksudo?
[09:47] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: sorry, I had to pop out for a second
[09:47] <kelvin911> what is the different?
[09:47] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: can you give me an overview if anything has changed at all
[09:47] <DistroJockey> hyde, seems it was last update in 02/07/06 so, probably not going to help
[09:48] <hyde> yes
[09:48] <punisher> thenks you
[09:48] <punisher> good bye
[09:48] <kelvin911> hello?  what is the different between gksudo and sudo ?
[09:48] <SitUbuntuSit> gksudo is more for graphical interfaces that need sudo, while sudo is used more for command line.
[09:48] <ikonia> kelvin911: gksu is for X11 apps
[09:48] <hyde> DistroJockey thats the one
[09:48] <IntangibleLiquid> !bye | punisher
[09:48] <kelvin911> so how do i know when to sudo and when to gksudo?
[09:48] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Ummm, it seems to be running at an identical speed. glxgears doesn't work, which I presume is meant to happen without 3D drivers. Nothing else is different really.
[09:49] <IntangibleLiquid> !gksudo
[09:49] <DistroJockey> hyde, the system is probably shutting down far enough to not cause any damage, but I guess it would be nice not to have to use the power button to finish the job
[09:49] <kelvin911> so gksudo is for gui application?
[09:49] <noip> how do check if a specific interface is down? "ifconfig hso0" shows it even when it's down...
[09:49] <SitUbuntuSit> kelvin911, because graphical progs have settings and affect other docs/settings that can be borked when using sudo
[09:50] <SitUbuntuSit> kelvin911, yes
[09:50] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: correct. Very interesting
[09:50] <shiesty> ?
[09:50] <AbstortedMinds> hi, i have an imac w/ ubuntu and when i hold down a button like 'W' to go forward in a game, i cannot move the mouse while that button (any button) is being held, any ideas on what is causing this
[09:50] <DistroJockey> hyde, but I'm not that familiar with acpi issues, sorry.
[09:51] <KalEl> ever since i upgraded to the last firefox 3 beta in hardy, it keeps slowing down and stops to respond from time to time while using the hard disk for some reason
[09:51] <KalEl> is there a chance i can get the bete version before the latest one? that was much smoother
[09:52] <ikonia> KalEl: you have the beta version already
[09:52] <KalEl> the one before the latest beta
[09:52] <kelvin911> after i modify sources.list, do i need to reboot ??
[09:52] <KalEl> there was some upgrade which update ff3 beta and that's causing the problem
[09:52] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: ok so what if theres no root user in my mysql install? lol I restarted using --skip-grant-tables and tried to rest the pass and got :mysqladmin: unable to change password; error: 'Can't find any matching row in the user table'
[09:52] <Uplink> :(
[09:52] <jk_> !backup
[09:52] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: looks like you've not done the database setup
[09:53] <MaxMekker> Hello! Ubuntu is spying on me. During the upgrade to Hardy Heron, it started the webcam and saved several pictures on /tmp/motion.
[09:53] <dupin> 	kelvin911 : save file and close it.  sudo apt-get update
[09:53] <kelvin911> dupin: thanks
[09:53] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: yea its a fresh install I've done nothing to it
[09:53] <BadManiac> How do I get to the command line?
[09:53] <dupin> kelvin911: np
[09:54] <kelvin911> what is the tracker search?
[09:54] <kelvin911> is it new?
[09:54] <MattJ> BadManiac: Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[09:54] <elporo> Can anyone answer me a quick Wubi question?
[09:54] <KalEl> how can i see the cache size used by firefox 3? i suspect that might also be the problem
[09:54] <xxxxxxx> How do I find out what driver I have installed?
[09:54] <xxxxxxx> video driver*
[09:54] <BadManiac> thanks Mattj
[09:54] <magnetron> elporo: go ahead and ask
[09:54] <MattJ> kelvin911: It's been around for a few versions, it indexes your files so you can find the ones you want in seconds
[09:54] <micro_cz> please anybody having problem with laptop battery in conky (hardy heron) ?
[09:55] <kelvin911> MattJ: okay but i dont see it in previous version
[09:55] <dupin> kelvin911 : you serch files with it (obvious) and it was in Gutsy
[09:55] <xukun> anybody here using microsft wireless keyboard?
[09:55] <patifa> KalEl: head to the URL "about:cache" without the quotes
[09:55] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: it should be in the xorg config
[09:55] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: please please please, just install using the desktop
[09:55] <kelvin911> because now it has an icon so i think it is new
[09:55] <elporo> security wise, not performance, does running with a Wubi install makes it less secure?
[09:55] <MattJ> kelvin911: Yeah, the icon might be new, I can't remember
[09:56] <KalEl> thanks patifa
[09:56] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=773859&highlight=lamp+mysql+password
[09:56] <kelvin911> what about that deskbar search?
[09:56] <xxxxxxx> lol
[09:56] <kelvin911> are they different?
[09:56] <xxxxxxx> ikonia thats no fun
[09:56] <Boredom_inc> just out of curiosity if I'm upgrading what does everybody think is better for Ubuntu (which will be less likely to have driver problems).... 512MB ATI 3870 PCI-E or 512MB ATI 3870 PCI-E
[09:56] <dupin> kelvin911 :still not using Hardy so I don´t know
[09:56] <BadManiac> right no list in fdisk, how can I see a list of my physical disks and partitions, to see which is which?
[09:56] <MattJ> elporo: If you mean because it is running from Windows, then no, it doesn't
[09:56] <kelvin911> and there is one search for file in Places
[09:56] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: try sudo mysqladmin -u root password PASSWORDHERE
[09:56] <elporo> that's what I meant
[09:56] <Uplink> ikonia, no luck dude :(
[09:56] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: yes, but its clear yout not confident what your doing
[09:56] <KalEl> is there any way to track what is reading from/writing to the hard disk with hardy? from time to time hard disk gets excited and system stops responding
[09:56] <MattJ> elporo: When you install Wubi, and select to start Ubuntu, only Ubuntu is running, Windows is thankfully not :)
[09:56] <kelvin911> after i update to hardy, the font in opera changes to very thick
[09:56] <xxxxxxx> if I install using the desktop won't i need to uninstall gdm and all that jazz? I decided to try the server .iso
[09:57] <ikonia> Uplink: have you tried loading them manually throught the restricted driver maanger on the livecd
[09:57] <elporo> The main reason I use Linux (for now) it's security
[09:57] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: the server iso is a bad call for you
[09:57] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: the drivers you want will not be available
[09:57] <dupin> kelvin911  :   that is tracker
[09:57] <patifa> Ubuntu does look a lot more awesome with compiz running, it's just a shame I can't get it working w/o the binary driver.
[09:57] <elporo> I use it for my internet banking and shopping and anything where security is important
[09:57] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: no luck tired that already several times it refuses to give me access
[09:57] <Uplink> ikonia, i tried to install ndiswrapper but couldnt download it b/c im not conenct to the internet :/
[09:57] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: and you used sudo
[09:57] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Should I just give up for the moment? I'm upgrading soon.
[09:57] <ikonia> Uplink: I didn't say install ndiswrapper
[09:57] <xxxxxxx> Ithe only thing i need to know is how to get the video driver installed from command line for hardy heron
[09:57] <kaoticsnow> I'm logged in as root
[09:58] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: It hought you where on hardy already ?
[09:58] <baalsgate> any women in here ?
[09:58] <xxxxxxx> after that i should be able to manage ikonia
[09:58] <dupin> kelvin911 : you can custumize them in Opera
[09:58] <kaoticsnow> via sudo bash
[09:58] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: it won't work on the server
[09:58] <Uplink> ikonia, im pretty noob with ubuntu...
[09:58] <kelvin911> anyone uses awn here?
[09:58] <baalsgate> lol
[09:58] <KalEl> kaoticsnow, don't log in as root
[09:58] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: why are you logged in as root
[09:58] <xxxxxxx> ah it won't?
[09:58] <kelvin911> dupin: but why the font changes?
[09:58] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: no, as I told you a few lines up
[09:58] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Sorry I am. I mean upgrading my PC in a month.
[09:58] <kelvin911> dupin: i dont know which font opera was using
[09:58] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: thats not the point to me, I'm unsure at why you are having pain
[09:58] <xxxxxxx> what won't work exactly?
[09:58] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: the video drivers shippe with ubuntu
[09:58] <KalEl> how can i check if the ubuntu cache partition is working fine?
[09:59] <xxxxxxx> ikonia if I use the desktop version how do i get rid of gdm and all that?
[09:59] <DistroJockey> KalEl, you mean swap partition?
[09:59] <xxxxxxx> I won't be able to apt get them?
[09:59] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: why do you want to get rid of them, they are an interface to X11 that your application needs
[09:59] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: Just easier
[09:59] <KalEl> swap partition correct DistroJockey thanks
[09:59] <Hamled> what is the key shortcut in gnome to open a 'run this command' window?
[09:59] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: you can just remove them using the package manager, anything you don't want
[09:59] <dupin> kelvin911 : from time to time (when changing users) it reset my fonts too,but they are back after logout nd login
[09:59] <paco_> ciao a tutti
[09:59] <paco_> ciao a tutti
[10:00] <patifa> KalEl: Check the system monitor, the Resources page.  You can see how much of the swap partition is in use.
[10:00] <DistroJockey> KalEl, well, typing    free   in a terminal should do the job
[10:00] <xxxxxxx> ikonia I need to boot that one application. according to this all I need is an x-server mainly
[10:00] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, fancy another test
[10:00] <elporo> So if my windows gets infected by virus, spyware or rootkit, my Ubuntu will be ok even if it's installed with the WUBI option?
[10:00] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: gdm is the front end to "launch" the Xserver
[10:00] <xxxxxxx> this--> http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=32046
[10:00] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: this is what I mean about you not being confident with what your doing
[10:00] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yes
[10:00] <tommytaiwan> hello, i have a noob question about Remote Desktop
[10:00] <dupin> kelvin911  :  you can choose which font you like and use it (in Opera I mean)
[10:00] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: do what you want - I'm advising you and you want to do your own thing - so d o it
[10:00] <KalEl> thanks patifa DistroJockey
[10:00] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: do you have another PC in the house ? are you on a network at all
[10:00] <chrissturm> is there a streaming server like icecast or shoutcast in main?
[10:01] <Uplink> ikonia, im pretty noob with ubuntu...
[10:01] <ikonia> Uplink: I appriciate that
[10:01] <tommytaiwan> i entered full screen mode on remote desktop, but now i can't get back to my own computer
[10:01] <DistroJockey> KalEl, or   cat /proc/meminfo
[10:01] <xxxxxxx> ikonia I really appreciate all your advice. but it's possible so I want to try at least
[10:01] <ikonia> Uplink: open the restricted drivers manager
[10:01] <Hamled> what is the key shortcut in gnome to open a 'run this command' window?
[10:01] <DistroJockey> KalEl, you're welcome
[10:01] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: then try and stop asking questions
[10:01] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yes I am on a network, wireless actually. No other PCs are turned on at present though.
[10:01] <kelvin911> i think the font is mess up after the update
[10:01] <Uplink> ikonia, im on windows right now
[10:01] <ikonia> Uplink: ok, I can't help you then
[10:01] <kelvin911> anyone having the font too thick problem?
[10:01] <end-user> Hamled: you mean alt+f2?
[10:02] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, could you try sshing into your box and seeing how that console responds ?
[10:02] <SoerenW> hi
[10:02] <xxxxxxx> ha the one question i need answered is how to find out what driver I currently have installed and how to reinstall it from the command line
[10:02] <jaredbuck> tommytaiwan: there usually is a keyboard combination that will allow you to exit full-screen - did you check the docs?
[10:02] <KalEl> hmm my memory is all free still firefox 3 wants to access hard disk for anything i do
[10:02] <Uplink> ikonia, how am I supposed to connect to here with ubuntu if i cant even connect to the internet?
[10:02] <ikonia> xxxxxxx: and I've answer that for you
[10:02] <xxxxxxx> I'll figure that out. thanks anyway. you've been a huge help
[10:02]  * DistroJockey hopes patifa is a nice word KalEl :)
[10:02] <ikonia> Uplink: your not, your supposed to write down what I've suggested and try it
[10:02] <dupin> kelvin911 : I know what are you talking about I expirienced same thing
[10:02] <Uplink> ok ok
[10:02] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I'll ssh in with my ipod touch cause it's quicker than booting up my incredibly slow laptop.
[10:02] <kelvin911> dupin: what was it?
[10:02] <kelvin911> dupin: what is causing this?
[10:02] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: thats fine
[10:02] <tommytaiwan> jaredbuck: where are the docs?
[10:02] <dupin> kelvin911  ????????????
[10:02] <KalEl> DistroJockey, actually it's some one else's nick who also answered me :)
[10:03] <Hamled> that is what I meant, yes thanks
[10:03] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: I'm trying to work out if the PC is having issues, or if it is just the actual screen draw
[10:03] <jk_> how do i list the contents of a tar.b2z archive
[10:03] <kelvin911> dupin: i thought u experience the font problem too
[10:03] <end-user> Hamled: :)
[10:03] <ikonia> jk_: tar tjvf $file
[10:03] <jaredbuck> tommytaiwan: let me check for you.
[10:03] <jk_> thanks
[10:03] <Uplink> ikonia, im listening
[10:03] <Uplink> open restrict driv man
[10:03] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I think it's the PC but I'm really not sure what exactly.
[10:03] <DistroJockey> KalEl, ohh, ahh, sorry patifa :)
[10:03] <kelvin911> dupin: now the bold fonts are so thick
[10:03] <kelvin911> dupin: its like bold bold font
[10:03] <ikonia> Uplink: boot ubuntu, open the restricted driver manager from the system menu and see if it can enable/load the broadcom drivers
[10:03] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: this will give us a good hint
[10:03] <Hamled> now, is there a way to make sure that emerald is setup as the theme manager at startup, so I don't have to run emerald --replace manually?
[10:04] <dupin> kelvin911  : yes,I it can be related with new version not be polish
[10:04] <Uplink> ok ikonia, TY TY ^_^
[10:04] <ikonia> Hamled: there is post on the forum for that, let me see if I can find it
[10:04] <Uplink> it said microcode error
[10:04] <Hamled> ikonia, thanks
[10:04] <ikonia> Uplink: how have you tested it so quick
[10:04] <ikonia> Uplink: you said you where not on windows
[10:04] <ikonia> where on windows
[10:04] <DistroJockey> KalEl, I guess you could install firefox-2 and see if you have the same issue
[10:04] <ikonia> Uplink: ubuntu doesn't boot that quick
[10:04] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: ok I'm in
[10:04] <Uplink> ikonia, it was on the boot screen
[10:04] <dupin> kelvin911 : in Opera tools>peferences>advanced>fonts
[10:04] <dw90> hey people I got a problem, some of DVDs I cant mount, I get error message: Unable to mount media. here is probably no media in the drive.
[10:05] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, how response is it to general typing
[10:05] <moon`> okay, say I have a choice between four files: *.rpm *.tar.bz2 *.tar.gz and *.deb | which to I download and how to I install it once I've downloaded
[10:05] <ikonia> Uplink: let me search on that
[10:05] <moon`> this is for opera 9.50b
[10:05] <ikonia> moon`: deb is for the ubuntu package manager, however make sure it is compatible with ubuntu
[10:05] <jaredbuck> tommytaiwan: the help file for krdc says there should be an icon somewhere on your screen that looks like a monitor with arrows at the four corners of the monitor icon.
[10:06] <DistroJockey> moon`, and dpkg would be how
[10:06] <moon`> ikonia: ty
[10:06] <jk_> ikonia, i am trying back up when i use tar -jcf i get a message "tar: Removing leading `/' from member names" is this an error
[10:06] <moon`> DistroJockey: ty also
[10:06] <dupin> moon`  : select Opera for ubuntu deb package
[10:06] <DistroJockey> mooky, np
[10:06] <DistroJockey> oops, sorry mooky
[10:06] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: It's pretty good. The occasional tiny "lag" (not really the correct term) but I think that happened in 7.10
[10:06] <DistroJockey> moon`, np :)
[10:06] <ikonia> jk_: no, not an error
[10:06] <dw90> some of DVDs I cant mount, I get error message: Unable to mount media. here is probably no media in the drive. Is there a force mount option?
[10:06] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, so that backs up my theory - it's the screen re-draw
[10:06] <jk_> cheers ikonia
[10:06] <SkinnYPup> Is there a way to thorottle back cpu intensive apps in background?
[10:06] <moon`> is there a way to use the other files as well?
[10:06] <tommytaiwan> jaredbuck: oh, but i don't see anything like that on my screen
[10:06] <ikonia> SkinnYPup: man nice
[10:06] <moon`> dupin: the x86_64 architecture for opera isn't listed on there site
[10:07] <SkinnYPup> ikonia: ;0) thx
[10:07] <tommytaiwan> jaredbuck: where is the document so i can read more?
[10:07] <ikonia> moon`: then it's not available
[10:07] <DistroJockey> moon`, yep, there's a way, may not be pretty though
[10:07] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: That makes sense. Yeah that makes sense, mind you I still have no idea what is causing it.
[10:07] <moon`> DistroJockey: was just asking for future reference ;)
[10:07] <end-user> Hi, I'm sure this has been asked a lot lately, but I've tried a few forum solutions to no avail: Is there any fix for Flash crashing Firefox, or do we pretty much have to rough it out for a while?
[10:08] <MaxMekker> Forward/back-buttons in FireFox 3 beta 5 do not work. I just upgraded ubuntu to Hardy Heron. How to fix the buttons in FF?
[10:08] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: give me a moment or two to walk that through
[10:08] <jaredbuck> tommytaiwan: open up krdc and select help - krdc handbook.
[10:08] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: your card is the 6600 isn't it ?
[10:08] <kelvin911> how come gtk-window decorator can not make the title bar like mac OSX?
[10:08] <tom____> this is going to sound stupid, but for a stock standard hardy install, do i just get the ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386 image?
[10:08] <kelvin911> only emerald theme manager can customize title bar?
[10:09] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: No, TNT2
[10:09] <DistroJockey> tom____, personally I would get the Alternate
[10:09] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Hence why I'll be upgrading in a month :P
[10:09] <tom____> DistroJockey: how come?
[10:09] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ahhhh what chipset is on that
[10:09] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: I remeber this
[10:09] <DistroJockey> tom____, works better with differing install types
[10:09] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I'm not sure of the chipset to be honest. Is there a way to check?
[10:10] <jaredbuck> tommytaiwan: i am trying to find the keyboard shortcuts for kdrc, be patient.
[10:10] <tommytaiwan> jaredbuck: i think i'm not using kdrc. I'm using the default client for Hardy.
[10:10] <tom____> DistroJockey: ok but i'm gonna have an xserver and everything, i doubt i'll change any defaults
[10:10] <DistroJockey> tom____, if you don't need live CD type function, get alternate I say :)
[10:10] <DistroJockey> tom____, should do the job fine
[10:10] <tom____> DistroJockey: ok thanks mate
[10:11] <DistroJockey> tom____, no problem
[10:11] <SkinnYPup> Does change priority of a process in system monitor have the effect of thorottleing back that process cpu% or is this likely to crash a prog? vmware-vmx is eating a lotta cycles
[10:11] <tommytaiwan> jaredbuck: it's called "Remote Desktop Viewer" so i think i can check the help file there
[10:12] <sa> hey everyone
[10:12] <hp_> hi
[10:12] <tommytaiwan> jaredbuck: thanks for your help. I just had to press F11 or Ctr+Alt
[10:12] <jaredbuck> tommytaiwain:  glad i could help.
[10:12] <hp_> my computer would randomly freezes. and i would have no control of the keyboard and mouse. do anyone know how to fix this?
[10:12] <jaredbuck> tommytaiwan: glad i could help :)
[10:12] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: sorry, I missed what you said, darn phone rang again
[10:12] <hp_> and the sounds would just repeat itself over and over and over again
[10:12] <sa> i just installed kopete for KDE to my GNOME. How come it is working but I cannot access the menu?
[10:12] <hp_> i tried everything. and it even crashed when i'm nto watching anything
[10:13] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I'm not what chipset it is. Is there a way to check?
[10:13] <kaoticsnow> =( time for a relaod
[10:13] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: what does "lspci" say about it
[10:13] <Uplink> ikonia, i wanna dual boot XP with Ubuntu
[10:13] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: I know it's an nvidia but I can't remember the chipset
[10:13] <ikonia> Uplink: ok ?
[10:13] <Uplink> good idea?
[10:13] <jaredbuck> sa: make sure the kde regular packages are installed - try installing kubuntu-desktop. kopete won't work unless you have the kde files installed.
[10:13] <ikonia> Uplink: up to you
[10:14] <Boredom_inc> ikonia:  nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]
[10:14] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: one moment
[10:14] <nox-Hand> Can anyone confirm for me sourceforge is down?
[10:14] <sa> jaredbuck: ok, thank you. Another question. HOw do I install new emoticons to kopete?
[10:14] <kelvin911> anyone heard of Mac4Lin package?
[10:14] <BadManiac> How can I tell which disk SDA or SDB my OS and swap partition is on, and which is the blank disk?
[10:14] <dupin> Uplink : most of people started that way
[10:14] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: got you !
[10:14] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: please show me "dpkg -l | grep nvidia-glx"
[10:15] <jaredbuck> sa: i don't know the answer to that one, the kopete defaults work fine for me. but i can look it up for you.
[10:15] <ArthurArchnix> nox-Hand: here's a useful link. Bookmark it. http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[10:15] <DistroJockey> nox-Hand, confirmed
[10:15] <jaredbuck> nox-Hand: it does seem to be down on my machine.
[10:15] <nox-Hand> ArthurArchnix: Thanks, that's awesome :)
[10:15] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: err that's pretty long, should I use pastebin or something?
[10:15] <Uplink> dupin ty
[10:15] <sa> jaredbuck: thank you. I am looking into it also but cannot find it
[10:15] <DistroJockey> cheers ArthurArchnix :)
[10:15] <Nevstah> can anyone suggest why i can't upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04? in ssh all i get is http://pastebin.com/d2842290
[10:15] <x1250> pastebin yes! :D
[10:16] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ahhh please
[10:16] <ShinMaster> hello to all
[10:16] <dupin> Uplink : read   http://psychocats.s465.sureserver.com/ubuntu/installing
[10:16] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Wait sorry it's not long... It's short :P I missed where it started
[10:16] <Uplink> kk ty
[10:16] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: ii  nvidia-glx-legacy                          71.86.04+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.34      NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' dri
[10:16] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: 2 minutes please
[10:16] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: No worries
[10:17] <dupin> Uplink np
[10:17] <jaredbuck> sa: take a look here: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdenetwork/kopete/faq.html#id2557327 and look at 8.4.
[10:17] <mrtimdog> Hi, I've just started up my hardy and my desktop is now showing my home dir!?
[10:17] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ok, back, short phone call
[10:17] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: ahhh rats, its the correct legacy package
[10:18] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: I thought you where using the wrong one
[10:18] <kaoticsnow> the iso for spark cpu's is not on the dowload page anymore?
[10:18] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: lol, no.... the mystery continues.
[10:18] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: I don't think sparc is a supported platform anymore
[10:19] <anix> hi, do you know burning tool that can burn CD/DVD for booting-up??
[10:19] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: thisi s very frustrating
[10:19] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: wonderfull
[10:19] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: it "looks" like your card has issues with the current drivers, but as it worked when you first installed it I can't see what would change to make it slow down
[10:19] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Maybe my computer is hinting it is old and tired:P
[10:19] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: that card is certainly old
[10:19] <jaredbuck> anix: k3b can burn CDs/DVDs that boot, the files on the disc themselves will tell your computer that they can be booted from the disc when it starts up.
[10:19] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: you've not got compiz enabled have you ?
[10:20] <mrtimdog> Is there a gconf key for nautilus which contains the location of the folder used for the desktop?
[10:20] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Compiz wouldn't enable if I tried :P
[10:20] <jaredbuck> sa, did you check out the link i gave you?
[10:20] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: didn't think so
[10:20] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: I want to give you a solution, I really do, but it does appear that card is just not happy with the driver
[10:20] <sa> jaredbuck: cool, thank you
[10:20] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: the top session and the ssh session backs that up
[10:21] <jaredbuck> sa, no problem :)  google search works wonders LOL.
[10:21] <anix> jaredbuck: where i can download it?
[10:21] <sa> jaredbuck: hahaha
[10:21] <ddonky> i  just upgraded to hardy and firefox 3 beta keeps crashing. why even provide a beta release?
[10:21] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: last shot, try changing the Driver "nvidia" line to Driver "nv" and restarting Xorg
[10:21] <phome> morning fellas, can I increase the 2d frame rate/redraw? I don't want to use compiz
[10:21] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Ok brb
[10:21] <ikonia> ddonky: the majority of people are finding the beta release more stable than the stable firefox2 branch
[10:21] <DistroJockey> ddonky, it is very stable by default
[10:21] <ikonia> ddonky: that was the theory behind it
[10:22] <jaredbuck> anix: k3b comes standard if you installed kubuntu or kde. if you didn't install it right away you can install it using a package manager or in GNOME, the add/remove applications selection.
[10:22] <sa> jaredbuck: hahaha
[10:22] <Nevstah> are there any 'real' problems upgrading over ssh?
[10:22] <ddonky> ahh, ok
[10:22] <ikonia> Nevstah: if your network dies - your install is dead
[10:22] <DistroJockey> ddonky, I suggest disabling plugins
[10:23] <DistroJockey> ddonky, some or all, up to you
[10:23] <Nevstah> so i need to do it locally and plug monitor/keybd in then?
[10:23] <kaoticsnow> 7.04 is the last release avaliable on spark right?
[10:23] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: looks that way
[10:23] <co_mo_CO> 55i
[10:23] <ddonky> DistroJockey - someone else told me it may be flash related
[10:23] <kaoticsnow> kk I give up on this box reinstalling
[10:23] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: the arch is called sparc (incase you do things like google search)
[10:23] <moon`> how do you tell what version of ubuntu you have i.e. dapper drake, gutsy, feisty, hardon
[10:24] <DistroJockey> ddonky, very likely
[10:24] <ikonia> moon`: lsb_release -a
[10:24] <Jaymac> i have a collection of ogg vorbis files, is there an easy way to merge them into one single audio file?
[10:24] <moon`> dandi, thanks ikonia
[10:24] <ddonky> for now i'm sticking with ff2 which has mouse gestures
[10:24] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Things actually seem to be running smoother with nv instead of nvidia. But now I don't have GLX support
[10:24] <DistroJockey> ddonky, :)
[10:24] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: yes, thats a side effect
[10:24] <realityiswhere`> Jaymac, there's a program called audacity that you can use to do that.
[10:25] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: the nv driver won't support glx
[10:25] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: but the fact that the driver makes a difference again leans towards the card + driver = not happy
[10:25] <anix> hi, at startup, ubuntu tell me that my laptop's battery has very low cap.(33%). What can I do?
[10:25] <Jaymac> realityiswhere`: yeah i have audacity.. was hoping there was a simpler tool :) thanks
[10:25] <anix> ''my laptop is new
[10:25] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: is it noticable better ?
[10:25] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I don't understand why not though. The driver hasn't changed since 7.10
[10:25] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yeah
[10:25] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: oooh the driver has changed
[10:25] <sa> jaredbuck: When I use kopete there is a pop-up showing everytime somebody sends me a message
[10:25] <sa> jaredbuck: how do i get rid of that pop-up?
[10:25] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: when you upgraded, the driver changed
[10:26] <jaredbuck> sa: I'd like to get rid of that popup too LOL.
[10:26] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Really?
[10:26] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: yes
[10:26] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: and the kernel interface that links into the driver also changed
[10:26] <sa> jaredbuck: so anoying
[10:26] <sa> jaredbuck: annoying
[10:26] <Jast98> Morning everyone.
[10:26] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: thats one of the reasons it's not advisable for people to run off and get drivers from nvidia.com as they are sensitive to things like kernel changes
[10:26] <jaredbuck> sa: it sure is.  I can try to figure out for both of us how to fix that.
[10:27] <Jast98> Need some help with a botched upgrade.
[10:27] <tom____> if i was going to put my /home on a different partition, how much hard disk space should i leave for /
[10:27] <Jast98> 6.06 to 8.04 went way wrong.
[10:27] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Hmmm, does that mean even if I revert the driver it still may not work as well due to the new kernel interface linking.
[10:27] <ikonia> tom____: minimum of 4G
[10:27] <DistroJockey> sa, jaredbuck : have you check with the folks in #kubuntu ?
[10:27] <kklimonda> Jast98: on desktop or server?
[10:27] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: possibly/possibly not
[10:27] <tom____> ikonia, how much so that it won't run out in the next 6 months
[10:27] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: you could try booting the gutsy kernel in hardy ?
[10:28] <ikonia> tom____: depends on your use
[10:28] <tom____> would 20 gig be excessive?
[10:28] <Jast98> kklimonda: desktop with LVM.  It looks like the LVM isn't being loaded after the upgrade.  Still loading the old kernel.
[10:28] <ikonia> tom____: if you have it to spare
[10:28] <Uplink> dupin, so i partion my HDD into a logical partition?
[10:28] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Is the the second option I have from grub? I have two kernels listed.
[10:28] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: should be yes
[10:28] <ikonia> (not the one that says recovery)
[10:28] <dupin> tom____ yes 10 is enough
[10:28] <tom____> dupin: ok cool
[10:28] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: 2.6.22-14 or something around that
[10:29] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Yeah I think that's it
[10:29] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: try it
[10:29] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Hmm that's a pain having to use an outdated kernel... Ok brb
[10:29] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: not really "outdated"
[10:29] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: just not bleeding endge
[10:29] <Uplink> dupin, i have a 100GB NTFS partition where all my windows is, a 12GB FAT12 (HP RECOVERY PARTITION) and 1GB NTFS partition of nothing in it
[10:29] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: ok quick questios, after I reinstall this system, whats the FIRST thing I need to do to start setting up the mysql database?
[10:29] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: the gutsy kernel is fine
[10:29] <Jast98> kklimonda: The old 6.06 spash is still showing as well.
[10:29] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: I'll set xorg.conf back to nvidia first?
[10:29] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[10:29] <sa> DistroJockey: no, not yet
[10:30] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: then it should prompt you to set a root password
[10:30] <ikonia> Boredom_inc: yes please.
[10:30] <sa> DistroJockey: trying to figure it out myself before I do
[10:30] <RedScare> OMG
[10:30] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: even if I choose the LAMP install option? that installs it with the OS dosent it?
[10:30] <dupin> Uplink : do you have any free space or can you make it?
[10:30] <Uplink> i can :D
[10:30] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: it should, if thats the case pay attention to if it prompts you for a password
[10:30] <kaoticsnow> ok
[10:30] <RedScare> I need to know how to log the names of windows that open
[10:30] <kaoticsnow> ikonia: thanks for the help
[10:31] <DistroJockey> sa well, I figured most of us here are Gnome, and KDE help may be better there
[10:31] <Uplink> dupin, i delete the HP Recovery partition and the 1gb free, and partion that free space but idk how to partition it as... logical ?
[10:31] <ikonia> kaoticsnow: welcome
[10:31] <RedScare> anyone use devilspie???
[10:31] <sa> DistroJockey: thank you :)
[10:31] <DistroJockey> sa no problem, not guaranteed though :)
[10:32] <ubuntung-pino1> I'm trying to install Win XP on a slave HD. Thing is, its setup wants to write to the master disk, and it tells me to create an XP-compatible partition there..
[10:32] <harry_> how can i connect "default" to a wpa2 protected network of mine?
[10:32] <harry_> if i go to "edit wireless networks", it's there, i can see it, with correct settings
[10:32] <ikonia> ubuntung-pino1: thats a limitation of XP
[10:32] <harry_> but it won't connect at boot
[10:32] <ubuntung-pino1> ikonia: any ideas for keeping XP from doing this?
[10:33] <ikonia> ubuntung-pino1: you can't
[10:33] <ikonia> ubuntung-pino1: you have to take the ubuntu disk out for the XP install
[10:33] <ubuntung-pino1> ikonia: u mean install the effing thing with just the slave disk (set up as a master then)?
[10:34] <Ridion> Hi all!
[10:34] <DistroJockey> ubuntung-pino1, I'd install Windows on a disk (only 1 disk installed) then remove that disk and install Ubuntu on another. Then reconnect the Windows disk and set grub to find it.
[10:35] <Ridion> My dell vostro is giving me large amounts of grief... It's not booting any linux distros
[10:35] <moon`> !sound
[10:35] <Jast98> Can anyone help with a failed 6.06 to 8.04 upgrade? Running desktop with LVM and after the reboot from the upgrade it still shows the 6.06 splash screen, but then freezes.  Doesn't matter which kernel I select in Grub.
[10:35] <arooni__> hey team!  if i have a gutsy laptop (lenovo t61)... 1) is it safe to upgrade to hardy?  2) is it the right time to do that (in terms of traffic and trying to get the upgrade via the cool built in UI in gutsy)?  3) if its ok to go... how do i start running it?  how long will it take?
[10:35] <Jast98> It seems like it loads the boot partition, but then fails to load the LVM.
[10:35] <ubuntung-pino1> ikonia: oh my..but Hardy is already settled snuggly.. if i took out the HD that has mu Hardy, then install Windows on that 2nd HD, then pop the HD with Hardy in it, will I be able to use both?
[10:36] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Errr not so good. Graphics card wasn't detected, I'm now in low graphics mode. I checked xorg.conf and it was the correct driver.
[10:36] <dupin> Uplink : you can put it on primary
[10:36] <Ridion> My dell vostro is giving me large amounts of grief... It's not booting any linux distros
[10:36] <ph8> hi guys; i'm in massive trouble. I need to give my dissertation presentation on an ubuntu machine in an hour and it's forced an fsck on one of my drives on boot; it talks about a duplicate block and then i see lots of "Multiply-claimed block(s) on inode <number>:..." messages - it appears to have frozen after these messages, it's been like it for 10 minutes
[10:36] <ph8> anyone ever seen that before?
[10:36] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Sorry incorrect english. The driver is listed correctly
[10:37] <Ridion> can anybody help me with actually getting the live ubuntu disk to boot?
[10:37] <kkdw> ph8 tried to boot with a cd ? you might be able to mount from there
[10:37] <Ridion> I know it sounds basic
[10:37] <Ridion> but it's not
[10:37] <DistroJockey> arooni__, I'd have to say no. (but that's my opinion)
[10:37] <Uranellus> ph8: if there's no better solution, boot a live cd and try to access your dissertion from there
[10:37] <Uranellus> kkdw: ;)
[10:38] <ph8> I have the files, it's more the specialist setup - postgresql, ruby etc
[10:38] <ph8> it's not possible to reconfigure that in an hour
[10:38] <ph8> can i skip fsck somehow?
[10:38] <dupin> Ridion : what is the problem
[10:38] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Let me know when your back/available... assuming you're not at present :P
[10:39]  * ddonky moves to the edge of his seat
[10:39] <Ridion> duplin: well it simply keeps restarting during boot from the live disk.
[10:39] <Ridion> dupin*
[10:39] <ubuntung-pino1> ph8: tried a Google and came up with http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-114928.html. Really not sure if it helps. Probably not ;)
[10:40] <Uplink> dupin, primary? ok... and ext2? or ext3?
[10:40] <dupin> Ridion : did you check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM  and disc integrity?
[10:40] <kelvin911> anyone find that there is a bug in the title bar with openoffice?
[10:40] <Jast98> What's the easiest way to get the Live CD to recognize an existing LVM partion?  Need to get to my data after a failed 6.06 to 8.04 upgrade.
[10:40] <dupin> Uplink ext3
[10:41] <Ridion> the thing boots vista fine
[10:41] <ph8> all relies on me having a cd!
[10:41] <Uplink> dupin, ty
[10:41] <ph8> i'll give it 5 more minutes and try recovery mode
[10:41] <arooni__> DistroJockey, no to which one
[10:41] <ph8> oh wait something happened
[10:41] <ph8> huzzah
[10:41] <BadManiac> ikonia seems it's thoroughly not recommended to run the OS on a raided partition, would you recommend reinstalling ubuntu on a separate disks, and keep the 2 500 sata disks for pure storage?
[10:41] <DistroJockey> arooni, 1st and slightly 2nd :)
[10:41] <dupin> Ridion :Ubuntu disc integrity (check for errors)
[10:42] <ph8> if i'm at a prompt can i stop fsck on reboot?
[10:42] <MrEgg964> Hi all! Is there an issue with cifs mounting on Hardy? The reason I'm asking is because one of my mounts just doesn't work anymore since I've upgraded :(
[10:42] <do0fy> hey hows it going, i wana print a photo, but i bought a couple different types of photopaper from the store so it seems, are ppl aware what 190gm/m2 means
[10:42] <dupin> Uplink : it is O.K.
[10:42] <DistroJockey> arooni, seen too many people have grief with upgrades
[10:42] <arooni__> DistroJockey, why do you say no to first one
[10:42] <DistroJockey> ^
[10:42] <arooni__> historically?  or this distro
[10:43] <DistroJockey> arooni, this distro
[10:43] <arooni__> DistroJockey, how long is gutsy supported for
[10:43] <DistroJockey> oops, arooni__ ^
[10:43] <arooni__> i'm pretty happy with gutsy
[10:43] <ubuntung-pino1> ikonia: ?
[10:43] <Jast98> Does anyone know antying about working with LVM?
[10:43] <Carbonflux> has anyone had any display problem with Thunderbird in 8.04?
[10:44] <DistroJockey> arooni__, till April 2009 I believe
[10:44] <Carbonflux> its removing all the decorations and maximizing itself on one montior
[10:44] <arooni__> DistroJockey, so uprading isnt going to get beetter is it
[10:44] <Carbonflux> I can't even move
[10:44] <arooni__> i mean its gonna suck but i have to do it sometime?
[10:44] <Carbonflux> it, this is a clean install too
[10:44] <DistroJockey> arooni__, 18 months from October 2007
[10:44] <moon`> brb reboot
[10:44] <arooni__> DistroJockey, define supported
[10:44] <Imaginal> How do I make items in the window list at the bottom of the screen pulse when there is an update? (pidgin?)
[10:44] <Carbonflux> does anyone even use Thunderbird ?
[10:44] <FicaBlok38> Can somebody tell me how to chage icons on my Ubuntu?
[10:44] <Carbonflux> heh
[10:44] <vaio> After editing .bash_profile, do I need to reboot or can I type a command and make the changes immediately?
[10:45] <dupin> arooni__ :geting security updates
[10:45] <Carbonflux> maybe using Thunderbird is my mistake
[10:45] <ubuntung-pino1> Does anyone know if a Windows installation can be carried on *after* Hardy?
[10:45] <Jazman_brewer> i use thunderbird on ubuntu
[10:45] <DistroJockey> arooni__, supported as in security patches I guess
[10:45] <end-user> Carbonflux: I know! They are getting less and less Linux friendly
[10:45] <Carbonflux> heh
[10:45] <kkdw> just do bash vaio
[10:45] <arooni__> DistroJockey, so what should i ddo
[10:45] <kkdw> that restarts it
[10:45] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, any problems with 8.04 ?
[10:45] <Jazman_brewer> not yet
[10:45] <Jazman_brewer> i just put it on
[10:45] <kkdw> or is that what you meant by reboot
[10:45] <Jast98> Can anyone help with an apparent LVM problem?
[10:45] <Jazman_brewer> i didnt like evolution
[10:46] <DistroJockey> arooni__, if your system works and does what you want it too, leave it be :)
[10:46] <Jazman_brewer> couldnt set it up
[10:46] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, have you added a account yet ?
[10:46] <tom____> hey guys one time my computer powered down incorrectly, and when it booted back up the hard disk space was nearly all taken up.
[10:46] <dupin> ubuntung-pino1 :yes,bit you will have to reinstall grub
[10:46] <vaio> kkdw i mean without rebooting the pc
[10:46] <Jazman_brewer> i ahve
[10:46] <Jazman_brewer> have
[10:46] <FicaBlok38> Can somebody tell me how to chage icons on my Ubuntu?
[10:46] <kkdw> yes type bash
[10:46] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, and no display problems ?
[10:46] <tom____> only there isn't actually anything on there
[10:46] <end-user> They took out movemail, they don't import mbox files from the import tool (you have to move them manually) and it can't even import vcard address books, while at the same time offering an option to attach vcards to your emails
[10:46] <tom____> any ideas
[10:46] <Jazman_brewer> i used the wizard
[10:46] <vaio> okay
[10:46] <Jazman_brewer> nope
[10:46] <kkdw> that restarts the bash
[10:46] <DistroJockey> arooni__, atleast until 8.04.1 :)
[10:46] <Jazman_brewer> but i have made my fonts bigger
[10:46] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, do you have more then one monitor ?
[10:46] <ubuntung-pino1> dupin: have u ever tried that and worked?
[10:46] <arooni__> DistroJockey, whats that
[10:46] <kkdw> or open another terminal :)
[10:46] <Ridion> dupin: done an MD5 check, it's all good. Selected Check CD for defects at the boot menu, it loads the kernal then the splashy screen or whatever and reboots after about 5 seconds of loading
[10:46] <Jazman_brewer> just one
[10:47] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, are you using compiz fusion at all ?
[10:47] <Jazman_brewer> still new to this linux think
[10:47] <DistroJockey> arooni__, an update release they scheduled
[10:47] <Carbonflux> well, you are helping me :)
[10:47] <Jazman_brewer> not sure about fusion
[10:47] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, it seems like my problem might be more then one monitor
[10:47] <BlueDevil> where do I report bugs related to the ubuntu.com webpage?
[10:47] <dupin> ubuntung-pino1 : not with Hardy,but yes and it worked
[10:47] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, do you have desktop effects turned on ?
[10:47] <Carbonflux> wiggling windows and stuff ?
[10:47] <arooni__> DistroJockey, to make upgrading easier?
[10:47] <Jazman_brewer> had ubuntu on for 3 days now never used linux
[10:48] <end-user> BlueDevil: go to launchpad.net/ubuntu
[10:48] <FicaBlok38> hiii
[10:48] <Jazman_brewer> hardy is ok
[10:48] <dupin> Ridion : it sound like something is not right
[10:48] <Jazman_brewer> still a lot diff
[10:48] <FicaBlok38> Jazman_brewer: can you help me?
[10:48] <end-user> BlueDevil: oops sorry!
[10:48] <Ridion> I worked that out myself
[10:48] <Carbonflux> Jazman_brewer, well, 8.04 is getting a lot of press, it might be a break thru distro that can effect the windows desktop market, maybe
[10:48] <Ridion> I've tried with 4 distros
[10:48] <DistroJockey> arooni, not sure about that. I just read they usually have a 04.1 for the LTS
[10:48] <Ridion> they work on desktops but not on my lappy
[10:48] <moon`> hey I just got an error while loading that says 'The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet". and it's asking if I want to delete the applet from the configuration
[10:48] <moon`> yay or nay?
[10:48] <arooni__> DistroJockey, whens that coming out
[10:49] <ubuntung-pino1> dupin: a'right.. I'm trying to look for HOWTO reinstall grub b4 doing anything.. care to share some if u know of any? thanks :)
[10:49] <Jazman_brewer> its taken me a while whish files would self install of h/d
[10:49] <Jazman_brewer> on win now
[10:49] <DistroJockey> arooni__, looking for that info...
[10:49] <end-user> BlueDevil: Forum Feedback & Help http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=48
[10:49] <dupin> Ridion : if you still have iso download same version with torrent and point download to the folder where your iso is
[10:49] <FicaBlok38> arooni, can you help me?
[10:49] <Jazman_brewer> plus i got hardy installed in win xp
[10:50] <Jazman_brewer> to much to learn
[10:50] <Ridion> even if the md5s match up you recon that's worth doing?
[10:50] <dupin> Ridion : torrent will just check your iso for errors Bur it on lower possible speed
[10:50] <tony55> moon if yiu only have 1 user account setup yes delete it
[10:50] <Jazman_brewer> ok what prog can i uses instead of win amp
[10:50] <FicaBlok38> dupin:
[10:51] <Jazman_brewer> or nero
[10:51] <moon`> tony55: ty
[10:51] <dupin> FicaBlok38 ?
[10:51] <FicaBlok38> dupin: can you help me?
[10:51] <FicaBlok38> i don`t know how to change icons on my ubuntu
[10:51] <Jazman_brewer> kia ora
[10:51] <Carbonflux> I am really beginning to hate google heh
[10:52] <Jazman_brewer> try system apperance fica
[10:52] <tony55> if icon is on desktop just right click it you should see in there where you can change icon
[10:52] <kelvin911> all the font in hardy are so thick
[10:52] <DistroJockey> just found a nice link (might be worth looking):  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-924db28d16be5af5b6120b06873de2a8be5c2bd9
[10:52] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: Well, if you are looking for something deeper than Rhythmbox for music, Amarok is popular
[10:52] <kelvin911> how to change it back to how it was???
[10:52] <Carbonflux> Does Anyone know why some force is removing all the decorations from my Thunderbird window and maximizing on one screen ?
[10:52] <Carbonflux> this only happens in 8.04
[10:52] <kelvin911> what font does original theme uses???
[10:52] <dupin> ubuntung-pino1 :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=grub   sorry for waiting
[10:53] <Jazman_brewer> what about nero
[10:53] <Jazman_brewer> and photoshop elements
[10:53] <Imaginal> Silly question, what goes in ~/Templates ?
[10:53] <Carbonflux> its really annoying
[10:53] <Carbonflux> I am going to have to stop using thunderbird because of it
[10:53] <Carbonflux> I don't see another email problem around either
[10:54] <Carbonflux> they all seem to suck
[10:54] <Carbonflux> need a blackberry to check my desktop email I guess
[10:54] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: well as for photoshop, I guess all I can recommend is The Gimp.  I mean, much of it is very intuitive. For example, Windows, you needed to use Nero to burn the .iso, while here you'd just right click the file and burn to disc.
[10:54] <Carbonflux> its got to be a problem with Twinview
[10:54] <Carbonflux> its the weirdest thing I have seen
[10:54] <Carbonflux> only thunderbird is effected too
[10:55] <kelvin911> hello anyone can answer my font problem?
[10:55] <Carbonflux> I checked all the settings in CCSM too
[10:55] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: For audio CD's, you can either simply use your given music player, or Brasero Disc Burning
[10:56] <Carbonflux> it just removes all the decorations and maximizes the window in allways on top mode, only thunderbird
[10:56] <Jazman_brewer> got brasero
[10:56] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: Brasero is under Sound and video
[10:56] <Jazman_brewer> what about dvd shrink
[10:56] <Carbonflux> so, what does everyone else in the channel use for email ?
[10:56] <Carbonflux> clearly not Thunderbird
[10:57] <Twim4> Carbonflux, webmail =)
[10:57] <dupin> Carbonflux :Opera
[10:57] <Carbonflux> thats not a bad idea heh
[10:57] <Carbonflux> ah ok
[10:57] <Carbonflux> does
[10:57] <Carbonflux> Opera have a client ?
[10:57] <Carbonflux> ( sorry for the extra return )
[10:57] <Jazman_brewer> i like fire fox but some oages the text is small
[10:58] <Imaginal> Is ~/Templates important? It looks useless
[10:58] <Carbonflux> I have never seen a bug like this
[10:58] <dupin> Carbonflux :In Opera email client is built in
[10:58] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: Sorry :( I must admit I don't do a ton of burning myself.  Why are you woried about it?
[10:58] <Carbonflux> dupin, is it biased towards webmail ?
[10:58] <jussio1> !language | Carbonflux
[10:58] <Carbonflux> lol ok
[10:58] <Jazman_brewer> this linux has prog for every win stuff
[10:59] <dupin> Carbonflux :I never use it
[10:59] <Imaginal> DistroJockey: OCD. If it is there, it must have a purpose. If it doesn't, I want it gone :)
[10:59] <Twim4> how can i set the opera for mail client?
[10:59] <Twim4> set up*
[10:59] <end-user> Carbonflux: I know it is a little frustrating. You may want to check out Balsa or Claws. Balsa is very gnome-integrated, if you are into aesthetics
[10:59] <Carbonflux> s**t is not one of those non family words tho jussio1 but thanks for stopping me anyway, I was getting frustrated
[11:00] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way to change the screen brightness sensitivity? 1 function+down lowers it from 100 to 50%
[11:00] <Carbonflux> end-user, ah thanks, great ideas
[11:00] <Flynsarmy> The next lowers it to 0
[11:00] <DistroJockey> Imaginal, fair enough :) I did try and see if it was Openoffice related, but it doesn't appear to be
[11:00] <dupin> Twim4 :Just install Opera and you will find e-mail client under tools
[11:00] <Carbonflux> I just feel like there are no good email clients anymore
[11:00] <Carbonflux> I suspect its because its all going mobile
[11:01] <Carbonflux> I don't want to write one because I don't really need it that much either
[11:01] <end-user> Carbonflux: np, I really liked balsa except they don't have outbound HTML emails. That is a make or break for a lot of people, I realize. It takes inbound just fine, though.
[11:01] <Carbonflux> webmail might just be best
[11:01] <Carbonflux> ah thats fine with me
[11:01] <Carbonflux> I never send HTML mails
[11:01] <Carbonflux> to risky
[11:02] <Imaginal> DistroJockey: Thanks for the pondering. Enough validation to rm for me.
[11:02] <DistroJockey> Imaginal, yeah, I'm sure it will come back if it's really needed ;)
[11:03] <laughzilla> w00t!  i just upgraded to ubuntu 8.x via Synaptic Package Manager.  so far so good ... still testing it out.
[11:03] <Carbonflux> ( I can't believe that guy gave me that family friendly thing over s**t tho, that is very annoying, I am going afk before I have banned from this channel because it making me really mad  )
[11:03] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: I hope that one works for you - yeah, they do cover a ton of bases. And Add/Remove is really friendly with experimenting with programs, I mean, you can just sample a ton of programs really fast. Don't be afraid to try out a bunch at once to see what you are into, say, for example, you wanted to compare the audio players
[11:03] <mihai__> a
[11:03] <Carbonflux> I hate censorship when its just for the sake of being a jerk
[11:04] <end-user> Carbonflux: Yeah, they are pretty adamant about no HTML in Balsa, heh - lot of people would probably like the option, but the devs of it stick to their guns.
[11:04] <Carbonflux> well, I find it really bad that email clients default to showing html end-user
[11:04] <Carbonflux> its a huge security problem
[11:04] <Twim4> dupin, thx ))
[11:04] <dupin> Twim4 : np
[11:04] <Carbonflux> I would never send html email to a actual friend heh
[11:04] <Carbonflux> to many issues
[11:05] <Jazman_brewer> it looks that way
[11:05] <kelvin911> hello?  anyone have the font problem?
[11:05] <Jazman_brewer> but also free stuff no ned for patches so i dont pay for it
[11:05] <Jazman_brewer> just got to get wine going on a few programs
[11:05] <Jazman_brewer> then goodbye mr gates
[11:05] <end-user> Carbonflux: Yeah, I guess that's a bad habit of mine - although I'm cautious to people who I don't know the preferences of. Then I default to plain-text. of course, Balsa has a bunch of safeguards for incoming, with the defaults leaning to no
[11:06] <Boredom_inc> ikonia: Looks like I'll have to give up. Thank you for all the help though
[11:06] <Jazman_brewer> good firewall and anti virus
[11:06] <Carbonflux> end-user, its the preview window that infects most machines, because to click on something to mark it spam allows it to run stuff in the preview
[11:07] <dupin> kelvin911 :try in system<preferences>appearance
[11:07] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: yeah, I have to admit, I haven't tested wine fully. There are some great kill a few minutes games, but not too many epics here.
[11:08] <end-user> Carbonflux: Oh really? what if you have the preview window off by default?
[11:08] <kelvin911> dupin what was the original font?
[11:08] <kelvin911> i didnt change any setting after the update, but the fonts are thick and ugly now
[11:08] <Carbonflux> end-user, I have not personally seen a email client that defaults to off, but ya, turning it off is the first thing I do
[11:08] <DistroJockey> end-user, should be fine unless you open the message
[11:08] <end-user> Carbonflux: I find that intriguing though. I could have sworn the settings seemed to affect the preview the same as they did when I double clicked an email
[11:08] <kelvin911> what is your font setting overthere?
[11:08] <kelvin911> is it 96 dots per inch?
[11:09] <DistroJockey> kelvin911, usually 96, yeah
[11:09] <dupin> kelvin911 : sorry I don´t follow you Do you mean in Opera or in Ubuntu system
[11:09] <kelvin911> font = sans?"
[11:09] <kelvin911> in ubuntu
[11:09] <end-user> DistroJockey, Carbonflux: Hmm, well I'll bear that in mind. luckily, I haven't gotten any spam yet, heh. I'm very cautious about ending up on lists (juggling a ton of email addresses, etc.)
[11:10] <dupin> kelvin911 yes
[11:10] <gjamc> hi, is ubuntu hardy wedged?
[11:10] <kelvin911> after i update from 7.10 to 8.04 fonts are f up
[11:10] <gjamc> I mean, I dist-upgraded and it removed gnome-panel :-/
[11:10] <dupin> kelvin911 : I know but language!
[11:10] <kelvin911> dupin: u have the same problem?
[11:11]  * DistroJockey adds another reason to the list of why I don't upgrade (damn, this list is getting long)
[11:11] <kelvin911> i shouldnt upgrade
[11:11] <end-user> DistroJockey: So do you wait a few weeks first?
[11:11] <kelvin911> now maple doesnt work
[11:11] <DistroJockey> end-user, nope, I do a clean install
[11:11] <kelvin911> how to change it back?
[11:11] <kelvin911> or i need clean install?
[11:12] <Carbonflux> end-user, I use ctrl-U to open them, which is show source on most linux clients I have used
[11:12] <dupin> kelvin911 : Not right now,because I didn´t upgrade but I know that from expirience
[11:12] <Carbonflux> unless I know the person personally
[11:13] <end-user> DistroJockey: Oh, I misunderstood. Yeah, I've only been using since Feisty, but when Gutsy came out, I upgraded, then did clean, and the difference was quite substantial. I have to admit, even with my clean install this time, I have a few problems.
[11:13] <DistroJockey> but I do have spare hard drives and time and no special programs that need to be installed
[11:13] <Carbonflux> is jussi01 a bot ?
[11:13] <dupin> kelvin911 : wait and that will be fixed by updates ( I hope )
[11:13] <DistroJockey> end-user, with Hardy?
[11:13] <end-user> Carbonflux: Oh, sorry If I was rambling on about clients before, sounds like you've probably used more than me heh
[11:13] <name1> hi
[11:13] <jussio1> Carbonflux: I most certainly am not :)
[11:13] <dupin> kelvin911 :you  can not downgrde
[11:13] <Carbonflux> end-user, no, its interesting listening to your views
[11:14] <dupin> *downgrade
[11:14] <Carbonflux> jussi01, do you use a mail client in 8.04? have you had any problems with decorations being removed ?
[11:14] <neil_d> help! I have a nvidia, I have installed nvidia-glx-new, enabled the driver with 'Hardware drivers' manager, but the best resolution I can get is still 800x600 :( what am I doing wrong ?
[11:14] <end-user> DistroJockey: Yes, just I suppose the same resolution stuff I go through everytime, got through it ok. A few sound issues, but I suppose I had them before, and just kind of crossed my fingers that they'd be fixed this time around (but the fix was simple once I saw how)
[11:15] <jussio1> Carbonflux: I use Kmail on kde. And no, I have no issues with it.
[11:15] <gjamc> uff, ubuntu dist upgrade status back to normal :-P
[11:16] <gjamc> I hate temporary problems :|
[11:16] <name1> so I was installing 8.04 and I have the famous wmp11v27.  but it locks up.  so when I take the card out it loads and installs fine.  when I put it back in after instalation it no longer loads.  am I screwed?
[11:16] <name1> pm if possible.
[11:16] <Carbonflux> jussi01, thanks, I was just curious if you were more then a channel cop, I was thinking kmail might be a option for me, I am having real problems with thunderbird.
[11:16] <DistroJockey> end-user, yeah, I'm finding things that worked fine in 7.10 don't in 8.04. So if 7.10 works, I suggest staying there for now. (just my opinion)
[11:16] <d_avid> pffrrrt
[11:16] <end-user> Carbonflux: Do you think Gnome is a little...picky? (trying to soften that a bit) about letting mail use the system tray? I mean, I appreciate alltray but it is kind of a pain with desktop effects, etc. Just seems like they should let the email program use the tray if so many users would like it to
[11:17] <Carbonflux> I just wish i could find someone else that is having these Thunderbird issues
[11:17] <d_avid> installing ubuntu on a m670 MSI laptop.. this laptop is hell.. I tell you.. HELL!...
[11:17] <d_avid> tho.. thankgod for ubuntu's option to install without networking
[11:17]  * moon` pats d_avid
[11:17] <name1> so I was installing 8.04 and I have the famous wmp11v27.  but it locks up.  so when I take the card out it loads and installs fine.  when I put it back in after instalation it no longer loads. any ideas?
[11:17] <moon`> there there
[11:17] <Carbonflux> end-user, its part of a movement to challenge windows, be more windows then windows, its too like to stop it imo :)
[11:17] <d_avid> thnx
[11:17] <dupin> d_avid :let it burn
[11:17] <moon`> :)
[11:17] <DistroJockey> d_avid, using the Alternate CD?
[11:17] <d_avid> yes
[11:18] <jussio1> Carbonflux: heh. Im kinda busy so aften dont have time. Thing is kmail integrates very nicely into kde, so thats why I use it. Im not a big mail client user though, so probably best to keep asking here, or even #ubuntu-offtopic might be good, if you are looking for discussion, not support.
[11:18] <moon`> anyone have any suggestions for a firewall prog besides firestarter, or is firestarter a pretty decent one?
[11:19] <Carbonflux> jussi01, I am having serious problems with something directly related to Ubuntu 8.04 specificly, you sure had time to censor my language, anyway, thanks, I might try kmail.
[11:19] <end-user> DistroJockey: Yeah, I have to admit, I'm still in a phase where I switch back and forth between Ubuntu and Kubuntu, but at some point I'd like to settle down (lol). Thank god for /home partition. I guess what really bugs me most right now in Gutsy will probably be wrapped up soon, it is the Firefox flash bug - I don't know what the scoop there is, but I cross my fingers for when Gnash replaces flash completely, because, I was just in Kubuntu about a
[11:20] <d_avid> yea... the alternate CD is pretty cool.. all is well for now.. I tried to install winXP, opensuse, ubuntu (livecd)... none of them work.. even win98 doesn't run on the laptop..
[11:20] <Jazman_brewer> isnt firestarter just a firewall config
[11:20] <Carbonflux> OS is about people being nice to each other and helping each other with a open mind
[11:20] <dupin> moon` : if you are runing Hardy you have ufw
[11:20] <d_avid> so now the alternate CD.. looks good uptill now :)
[11:20] <end-user> Carbonflux: How do you feel about Kmail?
[11:20] <Carbonflux> I need to try it
[11:20] <dupin> moon :Uncomplicated Firewall)
[11:21] <Jazman_brewer> is kamil better than thunderbird
[11:21] <end-user> Carbonflux: (I meant to add, when you've used KDE)
[11:21] <Carbonflux> I have gotten kde base all installed in 8.04 and its working
[11:21] <d_avid> (obviously just winvista runs.. and I refuse to even boot into it)
[11:21] <Carbonflux> end-user, i install gnome first and then pull in what kde apps i like and also install kcontrol
[11:21] <DistroJockey> end-user, yep, good choice with the /home being separate. As for me, flash works fine with the  flashplugin-nonfree
[11:21] <end-user> Carbonflux: Yeah, I don't like mixing them up (just a personal hangup of mine, I know ;) but I loved Kmail on Kubuntu, it was simply perfect for me
[11:21] <Carbonflux> end-user, kcontrol lets me match the colors to gnome somewaht
[11:22] <Carbonflux> end-user, well, thats good to hear, I will try it right now then
[11:22] <name1> can anyone help  me with a wmp11 and 8.04 install question?
[11:22] <lgierth> hi, can i burn the iso-image of 8.04 to a dvd instead of a cd?
[11:22] <DistroJockey> end-user, I don't mix either, Gnome for me
[11:22] <Jazman_brewer> try it lg
[11:22] <Carbonflux> name1, you are trying to run it under wine ?
[11:22] <lgierth> Jazman_brewer, okay :)
[11:23] <name1> wine?
[11:23] <Carbonflux> what do you mean by wmp11 ?
[11:23] <Carbonflux> name1, what do you mean by wmp11 ?
[11:23] <lgierth> Carbonflux, windows media player 11
[11:23] <Jazman_brewer> windows media player 11]
[11:23] <d_avid> lgierth: there is a DVD install iso.. I think
[11:23] <DistroJockey> windows media player 11
[11:23] <Carbonflux> thats what I though
[11:23] <DistroJockey> heh
[11:23] <Carbonflux> so, thus the question
[11:23] <Carbonflux> are you trying to run it in wine?
[11:23] <DistroJockey> why!?
[11:24] <name1> when I try to install 8/04 with my linksys card in the computer it wont load or install, so I take it out and it does both fine.  after instaqlling I put back in the card and it wont load.
[11:24] <Jazman_brewer> lg do the dvd and see if boots
[11:24] <name1> no wine
[11:24] <Jazman_brewer> start in cd rom in bios
[11:24] <d_avid> lgierth: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[11:24] <Carbonflux> how does wmp11 and 8.04 relate to each other name1 ?
[11:24] <name1> thats what im asking.
[11:24] <end-user> DistroJockey: I am so torn between the two. I really love them both, but when I'm on one, I tend to stick with it. Although, and maybe this is blasphemy, and frankly I haven't tried much either way, but it seemed like KDE handled the few GTK/Gnome apps a little cleaner than vice-versa. I guess I'm comparing it to back in Feisty, when I tried to put a bunch of KDE games on Gnome, and it just wasn't right.
[11:24] <name1> the wireless card wont let 8.04 load.
[11:24] <name1> but when I take it out it loads fine.
[11:24] <lgierth> d_avid, thanks, i'll try it if the cd->dvd doesnt work
[11:25] <Carbonflux> name1, well there are two basic ways to run windows apps in ubuntu, if that is what you want.
[11:25] <Jazman_brewer> forget wmp 11 its crap i use win amp in win
[11:25] <Carbonflux> when you take what out name1 ?
[11:25] <Jazman_brewer> but will try amarok
[11:25] <Carbonflux> name1, what does wmp11 mean ?
[11:25] <d_avid> amarok is cool
[11:25] <name1> im talking about my wireless card itsa wmp11
[11:25] <Carbonflux> lol
[11:26] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: I haven't tried Amarok in Gnome, but it is simply a fantastic music player.
[11:26] <Carbonflux> name1, you got everyone talking about media players heh ;)
[11:26] <nainef> anyone else having slow responses from google?
[11:26] <venil> hi, how do i add dns lookup ip on ubuntu server??
[11:26] <name1> sorry.
[11:26] <DistroJockey> end-user, I understand. I use KDE now and then but keep coming back to Gnome.
[11:26] <Jazman_brewer> well i d/l tomorrow when my isp wont shap me
[11:26] <Carbonflux> name1, nothing to be sorry about, its just a funny thing about jargon, I don't know much about wireless but someone else around here might :)
[11:26] <d_avid> kde has more options... but you have to know more about it.. be more gentile :)
[11:27] <Jazman_brewer> gnome or kde which is better
[11:27] <name1> so my wireless card, wmp11 stops the load process when I am trying to boot.
[11:27] <end-user> DistroJockey: this may be cliche, but it is such a Zen desktop. Clean, direct. I really love the look
[11:27] <Jazman_brewer> for a windows user
[11:27] <Carbonflux> kde4 seems kind of good looking tho
[11:27] <d_avid> gnome is more easy I think...
[11:27] <Jazman_brewer> may have to put on kubuntu
[11:27] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, KDE is more Windows like :)
[11:27] <name1> anyone have any ideas?  or should I just buy a diff wireless card
[11:28] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: oops - yeah, what DistroJockey said :)
[11:28] <lgierth> Jazman_brewer, d_avid, cd->dvd seems to work, thanks
[11:28] <Jazman_brewer> well i may to get kubuntoo
[11:28] <Carbonflux> name1, there has to be a reason, did you try searching the ubuntu forums ?
[11:28] <DistroJockey> :)
[11:28] <name1> yeah,  Im browsing them now.  its hell though
[11:28] <name1> haha
[11:28] <olaff> lo all, just need some advice, i have gutsy running on this machine, i want to upgrade to hardy, but i'd like to format my current partion and install over the top. Id like to reinstall rather than upgrade, but id quite like my user settings and documents to be saved. Whats the best way to do this?? thanks guys
[11:28] <Carbonflux> name1, there is a dir called /var/log
[11:28] <DistroJockey> I'd advise against KDE4 though (for now)
[11:28] <au_> how can i report bug in alsamixer?
[11:28] <au_> how can i report bug in gnome-alsamixer?
[11:29] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: I will say this, though, the simplified interface of GNOME might be a nice introduction for a bit, to Linux, and make you appreciate some of the extra settings available in KDE
[11:29] <jussio1> !bug | au_
[11:29] <moon`> anyone here using an x-fi card?
[11:29] <Carbonflux> name1, there are several files in there that might help you out, you can view them using the system log viewer in the the administration menu
[11:29] <yacc> Hmmm, anyone using taxbird on Ubuntu?
[11:29] <inertial> so if i have an intel processor without IVT/vmx support, what kind of virtualisation can i do?
[11:29] <djpate> anyone can help me with a weird conky issue on hardy
[11:30] <Jazman_brewer> ok will try kubuntu latter can have it just boot of cd to try it
[11:30] <Carbonflux> name1, those logs should at least tell you how its failing once you get used to reading them, its not a good solution but there should be a message in one them when it fails and that should give you clue at least where to start
[11:30] <andres> inertial: xen (only paravirtualized guests), virtualbox, vmware
[11:30] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: Exactly - I wish I'd sampled both a little more. CD's are cheap - heck, might even want to give Xubuntu a spin
[11:30] <moon`> oo, sorry dupin got sidetracked, where do I find ufw?
[11:30] <d_avid> olaff: I think most of them will be found in your /home dir
[11:30] <name1> ok.  Ill run with that and maybe make a post on the forums.
[11:30] <name1> much appreciated
[11:30] <moon`> I mean I know I already have it but where can I look at the settings on it
[11:31] <Jazman_brewer> looks like gooodb ye wiondows soon
[11:31] <inertial> andres: i was under the impression that VT was what paravirtualisation was implemented with.. but i might have it backwards..
[11:31] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, you can always use   sudo tasksel   to install other WM's/Desktop environments
[11:31] <Carbonflux> name1, sorry I can't do more, you might hang around and ask again, lots of wireless issue pass thru here, its a very common issue
[11:31] <mrthundercleese4> yacc what is taxbird?
[11:31] <Flynsarmy> Is there a way to change the screen brightness sensitivity? 1 function+down lowers it from 100 to 50%. The next takes it to 0%
[11:31] <name1> ok
[11:31] <Jazman_brewer> sudo whats that
[11:31] <marcozzzzz> salve
[11:31] <DistroJockey> Jazman_brewer, that's how you get root type access
[11:31] <yacc> mrthundercleese4: the German electronic tax filing app.
[11:31] <andres> inertial: no, its used to implement support for non paravirtualized guests in xen.
[11:32] <djpate> anyone can help me with a weird conky issue on hardy
[11:32] <yacc> mrthundercleese4: And just now I wonder if it's just a packaging problem with Ubuntu, ...
[11:32] <marcozzzzz> I can't execute the sudo command
[11:32] <Uranellus> hello, I'm having problems connecting a secondary display to my notebook .. while cloning works find, expanding the display is not possible. I had this problem before with opensuse .. the reason is easily seen when looking at the output of xrandr: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1680 x 1050, maximum 1680 x 1680 ... I used to get around this by adding Virtual 3360 1680 to my xorg.conf .. so I tried doing so, adding that line to the Screen se
[11:32] <venil> how do i add dns ip address?? command line
[11:32] <end-user> Jazman_brewer: sudo stands for "superuser do" it will prompt you for your password afterwords.
[11:32] <andres> inertial: but kvm works only with paravirtualization support
[11:32] <end-user> i think
[11:32] <Jazman_brewer> well this is new too  me i havent used a dos base sytem for over 10 years
[11:32] <DistroJockey> marcozzzzz, what error do you get?
[11:32] <end-user> ...thats what it means
[11:32] <marcozzzzz> I've read that i need to edit /etc/hosts file, but I need the permission
[11:32] <Jazman_brewer> is k3m any good
[11:33] <DistroJockey> marcozzzzz, yes, you will need to boot into recovery mode
[11:33] <mrthundercleese4> Jazman_brewer: it's not dos based it is entirely different
[11:33] <ApOgEE-work> what is the device manager in ubuntu hardy?
[11:33] <marcozzzzz> sudo: unable to resolve host marco-laptop
[11:33] <inertial> andres: so i'll try using virt-manager to install a paravirtualised xen guest
[11:33] <Jazman_brewer> need to reboot win bw back
[11:33] <DistroJockey> marcozzzzz, can you pastebin your /etc/hosts file?
[11:33] <andres> inertial: No idea how well it works with virt-manager ;-) Always done it via console...
[11:34] <ApOgEE-work> like in gutsy, i have hal-device-manager
[11:34] <ApOgEE-work> how about in hardy?
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> <IP_ADDRESS> marco-laptop.cagher
[11:34] <inertial> andres: ok, i'll give it a shot.. i'm really upset that my processor doesn't have VT, i thought all intel core 2 duo processors did
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[11:34] <marcozzzzz> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[11:34] <FloodBot2> marcozzzzz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <ApOgEE-work> my friend just installed hardy, then he just wanna see his device manager
[11:35] <alado2> anybody know how i can get the media keys on my keyboard to work in xubuntu?
[11:35] <marcozzzzz> that's my hosts file
[11:35] <DistroJockey> marcozzzzz, put localhost after marco-laptop.cagher
[11:35] <ApOgEE-work> but we couldn't find it
[11:35] <yacc> Hmmm, libgeier (that's the underlying communication library) seems to be-out-of-date in Hardy :(
[11:35] <andres> inertial: yes, there are some series (although not many) that do not have vt
[11:35] <Uplink> ok, IM on Ubuntu now
[11:35] <andres> inertial: but perhaps you only didnt enable it in the bios?
[11:35] <Uplink> ikonia: Im on with an RJ-45 calbe :]
[11:35] <DistroJockey> marcozzzzz, so it looks like   <IP_ADDRESS>  marco-laptop.cagher  localhost
[11:36] <marcozzzzz> DistroJockey: so --> marco-laptop.cagher localhst?
[11:36] <marcozzzzz> *localhost
[11:36] <DistroJockey> marcozzzzz, nods
[11:36] <inertial> andres: nah unfortunately my processor, the e2180 does not have VT
[11:37] <Flynsarmy> Does anyone know how to disable mouse wheeling on desktop scrolling to the next desktop?
[11:38] <Filled-Void> Is there a web based alternative for Netmeeting . I tried EKiga but I think I have to tinker with my router for it to work. Just trying to use a conference feature so multiple people can contribute at the same time and see whatever anyone types.
[11:38] <ihancioglu> Hello , I am using DELL Inspiron 6400 with Ati X1400 . I have installed ubuntu 8.04 and my graphic card driver is fine. Also native linux games working perfect. But If I try to install or play windows game I really get pain. Do you have a guide about wine installation on ATi graphic cards? (fine tunes, tweaks or something)
[11:38] <Uplink> ikonia: u there bro?
[11:38] <d_avid> flynsarmy: which screen manager?
[11:38] <Flynsarmy> d_avid: New to ubuntu. screen manager?
[11:39] <enquest> in 8.04/firefox all the flash is blokked... How do i turn this of
[11:39] <smmagic> hehe..konversation
[11:40] <d_avid> flynsarmy: you didn't install compiz or anything?
[11:40] <Flynsarmy> d_avid: I'm on hardy. compiz is installed automatically
[11:41] <Uplink> how do i install ndiswrapper?
[11:42] <_Andrew> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[11:42] <Twim4> !ndiswrapper
[11:42] <Uplink> ty :D
[11:43] <oly-> hi, anyone hit problems with java in openoffice on hardy, i have 3 options in the list but when i tick one it is unticked when i return to the options page
[11:43] <d_avid> flyns	army: it is?
[11:43] <oly-> this basically means i can no longer used openoffice dbase
[11:43] <oly-> any idea on how i can fix this ?
[11:44] <umbrualbert> Hi all...I cant access smb shares after hardy upgarde
[11:44] <Twim4> umbrualbert, check folder permission
[11:45] <mrthundercleese4> is anything in hardy heron worth the upgrade?
[11:45] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, same problem here
[11:45] <Flynsarmy> d_avid: I thoguht so? anyway compiz isinstalled on here
[11:45] <Uplink> can someone help me install ubuntu please?
[11:45] <alado2> anybody know how i can get the media keys on my keyboard to work in xubuntu?
[11:45] <umbrualbert> Twim4: which folder permission?...I can access the share from a winblows machine
[11:45] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, smb:// got broken. Not looked into it much yet
[11:45] <venil> Uplink: what is the problem?
[11:46] <umbrualbert> DistroJockey:.....smb:// got broken?...This is essencial from daily work?
[11:46] <Uplink> my HDD looks like this [ dev/hda1 98.77 GB                            ] [ free space  13.02 GB  ]
[11:47] <Uplink> and im a noob at this
[11:47] <umbrualbert> DistroJockey: -> Work Around?
[11:47] <venil> Uplink: thats fine, you wont get any c: or similar on linux
[11:47] <Uplink> Im on prepare disk space
[11:47] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, well, I would like to have it back (as it worked fine in Gutsy) but I havn't had time to look into it
[11:47] <yacc> Hmm, that's SO funny. Package broken and nobody even acknowledged the bug :(
[11:48] <umbrualbert> Is there a workaround for the SMB: share problem?
[11:48] <Uplink> lol venil, i noticed
[11:48] <mrthundercleese4> uplink you should check oth the forums they have walk throughs
[11:48] <yacc> At least Debian has an updated packages.
[11:48] <Uplink> i did but non of em have what i want
[11:48] <yacc> I mean it's nothing time critical, I mean the tax office will love us for filling late :)
[11:48] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, I agree that it is a very major failing that it does not work
[11:49] <Uplink> i need help with my installation please
[11:49] <Uranellus> I'm having problems connecting a secondary display to my notebook .. while cloning works find, expanding the display is not possible. I had this problem before with opensuse .. the reason is easily seen when looking at the output of xrandr: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1680 x 1050, maximum 1680 x 1680 ...
[11:49] <Uranellus> I used to get around this by adding Virtual 3360 1680 to my xorg.conf .. so I tried doing so, adding that line to the Screen section .. but upon the next startup of x I got in some sort of "configure your screen" mode ..
[11:50] <marco> also this way it don't works
[11:50] <Uplink> please help, im lost at this
[11:51] <marco> should I try to replace <IP_ADDRESS> localhost with <IP_ADDRESS> marco-laptop?
[11:51] <jellulabo> How do I monitor outgoing network traffic?
[11:51] <umbrualbert> Has anyone used SMB on Hardy other than myself and DistroJockey:?...Is it working?
[11:51] <DistroJockey> marco, yep, can't hurt
[11:51] <andres> jellulabo: wireshark
[11:51] <andres> umbrualbert: yes
[11:52] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: what version are you installing?
[11:52] <Flynsarmy> umbrualbert: I smb onto a windows pc and it works fine
[11:52] <andres> umbrualbert: Successfully, both via nautilus and mount -t cifs
[11:52] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=smb+hardy&search=Search+Bug+Reports&field.scope=all&field.scope.target=
[11:52] <Uplink> 7.04
[11:53] <Uplink> Im on a liveCd right now... connected with a cable
[11:53] <Twim4> i just installed a 8.04 server version, and the samba works perfektly
[11:53] <knoeki> hello, I just updated to 8.04, having an issue with X. apparently, the updater removed my NVidia driver, breaking my whole system. and now, I can't find the legacy nvidia driver in aptitude.
[11:53] <knoeki> any pointers?
[11:53] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: 7.04 -  Im on a liveCd right now... connected with a cable
[11:54] <Twim4> knoeki, download the driver from nvidia webpage
[11:54] <Slart> knoeki: they removed the nvidia legacy driver??? seems most unlikely.. hang on
[11:55] <ihancioglu> Do you have a howto install wine with ATI correctly?
[11:55] <knoeki> oh great, now I have to navigate the nvidia site with links -_-'
[11:55] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: are you going to install windows too?
[11:55] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, this link may be more relevant:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/206439
[11:55] <kiongku> hi.. anyone can access sourceforge.net?
[11:56] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: I have windows XP already... and my HDD looks like this [ dev/hda1 98.77 GB                            ] [ free space  13.02 GB  ]
[11:56] <jellulabo> I started having network connection issues a couple of days ago. I've narrorwed the problem down and have hit a wall. When I'm logged into my account on Hardy, system monitor shows 180kbs sending. I've shut everything off and the problem still continues.
[11:56] <Slart> !info nvidia-glx-legacy
[11:56] <DistroJockey> kiongku, nope, it's still dead
[11:56] <knoeki> Slart: well, I dunno if they removed it, but I am unable to find it in aptitude.
[11:56] <andres> jellulabo: use wireshark and analyze what is causing the traffic....
[11:56] <kiongku> DistroJockey, thx.. thought it was on my side
[11:57] <Slart> knoeki: what happens if you run this in a terminal "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy"
[11:57] <DistroJockey> kiongku, nope, has been down a while
[11:57] <knoeki> ah, I'll try.
[11:57] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: what size is ur hd
[11:57] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: 120GB
[11:57] <Slart> knoeki: and you might want to check that the upgrade didn't disable all the extra repos.. universe etc
[11:57] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to lower screen brightness sensitivity or disable desktop mouse wheel scrolling?
[11:58] <knoeki> Slart: well, it's downloading/installing now..
[11:58] <knoeki> Slart: let's pray it works :_)
[11:58] <knoeki> Slart: okay, done. :_)
[11:58] <Slart> knoeki: whatever floats your boat.. I'll sacrifice a roasted chicken here. .=)
[11:59] <knoeki> hehehe
[11:59] <knoeki> hrm.. I still can't start X, or do I have to reboot again? o.O
[11:59] <Slart> knoeki: well.. I think it requires a restart
[11:59] <knoeki> aha...
[11:59]  * DistroJockey takes the roasted chicken and eats it.
[11:59] <GamingX> What is the best way to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04?
[11:59] <knoeki> okay, well, brb then.
[12:00] <Slart> hey.. no stealing of the sacrificial chicken =)
[12:00] <magnetron> GamingX: with the update manager
[12:00] <DistroJockey> :(
[12:00] <Slart> GamingX: using the update manager
[12:00] <Twim4> GamingX, sudo apt-get distr-upgrade
[12:00] <marco> now it works
[12:00] <Twim4> dist-upgrade sorry
[12:00] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: 120GG
[12:01] <moon`> any recomendations on a good mp3 player?
[12:01] <azuki> moon: amarok
[12:01] <moon`> azuki: danke
[12:01] <Slart> moon`: xmms, songbird, amarok etc etc
[12:01] <magnetron> moon`: rhythmbox
[12:01] <marco> on my laptop the sudo command works with <IP_ADDRESS> marco-laptop instead of <IP_ADDRESS> localhost
[12:01] <DistroJockey> moon`, whatever works :)
[12:01] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: I belive all that you need to do is creat two partitions on that free space one as ext 3 and one as swap make the swap file the smaller of the two, as this is basically pagefile
[12:02] <azuki> yay.. ubuntu runs on my laptop
[12:02] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: what about the /root?
[12:02] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: suposedly 8.04 is easier to install
[12:02] <azuki> it's the ONLY os that works!
[12:02] <|atle|> Uplink: would suggest also a /home partition
[12:02] <lucad> hi everyone
[12:02] <azuki> the 8.04 alternate CD is pretty nice
[12:03] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: I dont have blank CD's
[12:03] <kelvin911> how come i everytime start hardy it uses gtf-window decorator?
[12:03] <Uplink> lol
[12:03] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink:you can use flash drives
[12:03] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: how big the partiotions?
[12:03] <marco> kate gives me this error: Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-marco" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[12:03] <Uplink> oh really?
[12:03] <Uplink> how! :|
[12:03] <Uplink> i have an 40GB external HDD
[12:03] <mrthundercleese4> i say 1-2 gig swap and the rest as ext3, wxt3 will be your root directory
[12:04] <DistroJockey> marco, my hosts (as what I am running, not sure it's totally right, but it's working): http://pastebin.com/f5e58e2f1
[12:04] <sharkp> I've a problem with hardy
[12:04] <knoeki> okay, so now X works again, but only in 800x600, while I used to have 1400x1050..
[12:04] <Uplink> |atle|: yea? but i dont get it... im like lost with all this
[12:04] <gaminggeek> +
[12:05] <sharkp> In GNOME, I have the login, but appears first a black screen and then a white one
[12:05] <menisk> sharkp, Be more specific. You're asking to be eaten with a comment like that.
[12:05] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: go to http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php
[12:05] <azuki> knoeki: which video card type?
[12:05] <sharkp> menisk, gimme a second!
[12:05] <sharkp> :P
[12:05] <menisk> sharkp, :P Never mind.
[12:05] <|atle|> Uplink: /home is just like Documents and settings in Windows
[12:05] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: and read up on the beginer section
[12:05] <lucad> i have question about ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2. anyone? pm me
[12:05] <Slart> knoeki: you probably need to configure your x then..
[12:05] <sharkp> menisk, I can use anyway the mouse, or better
[12:05] <menisk> sharkp, Do your have an ATI card?
[12:05] <sharkp> i can move it
[12:05] <sharkp> ehm...yes
[12:06] <menisk> sharkp, Have you installed FGLRX?
[12:06] <Uplink> so i need to make 3 partitions on my 13.02 free space?
[12:06] <sharkp> gimme another information... is xorg.conf changed?
[12:06] <mrthundercleese4> Uplink: yes
[12:06] <latitu> in LAN, how can i know how many computers are online and by what ip?
[12:06] <menisk> sharkp, Do you want compiz or happy without it?
[12:06] <sharkp> menisk, I've removed after I've tried it
[12:06] <Twim4> all, sourceforge.net is down?
[12:06] <menisk> Yes
[12:06] <Uplink> mrthundercleese4: cant the installer do that for me already?
[12:06] <|atle|> Uplink: yes that would be my suggestion
[12:06] <marco> DistroJockey: home.gateway is your network or should I insert usrname.network.gateway usrname
[12:06] <daedra> latitu: nmap <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:06] <knoeki> Slart: NVidia GeForce4 420 Go 32M
[12:06] <sharkp> menisk, I've a radeon hd 2600 XT AGP, I'm not so happy...
[12:06] <Uplink> I mean, how am i going to know what size each partition
[12:06] <|atle|> Uplink: yes it can
[12:07] <daedra> sorry nmap 10.0.0.*
[12:07] <mrthundercleese4> anyone having problems acessing slashdor?
[12:07] <lucad> i have question about ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2. anyone? pm me
[12:07] <smmagic> lets have a contest, who has the worst PC here? :D
[12:07] <menisk> sharkp, what we'll do is shove you on a driver that won't boot compiz then install FGLRX and have compiz. Sound good?
[12:07] <Fogel1497> i do
[12:07] <Slart> smmagic: I have a broken one.. can't get worse than that =)
[12:07] <smmagic> Fogel1497, Specs?
[12:07] <Fogel1497> 667 mhz intel celeron, 256 mb ram, what else do you want?
[12:07] <smmagic> Slart, Workable :P
[12:07] <smmagic> Fogel1497, What kind of gfx
[12:08] <sharkp> menisk, FGLRX doesn't work with new ati agp card, there's a problem with agpgart
[12:08] <Fogel1497> integrated intel graphics
[12:08] <Fogel1497> not sure what version though
[12:08] <umbrualbert> DistroJockey: you need to install smbclient and smbfs
[12:08] <DistroJockey> marco, for a system not in a "work" type environment, anything is ok I think, but yes, do it as you said
[12:08] <azuki> my wifi shows wireless networks.. but when connecting it fakes that the key is wrong.. which isn't..
[12:08] <knoeki> Slart: haha, the only resolutions listed in xorg.conf is 1400x1050 >.>
[12:08] <|atle|> Uplink: well 7GiB for / , 512MiB for swap and the rest for /home
[12:08] <menisk> sharkp, Since when can you get AGP 2600s?
[12:08] <hodsi1> hellO?
[12:08] <knoeki> Slart: any other way to configure xorg?
[12:08] <lucad> i have question about ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64. anyone?
[12:08] <azuki> w000t!
[12:08] <knoeki> lucad: don't ask to ask, just ask.
[12:08] <shashi> I am facing one issue with Ubuntu 8.04 AMD64. If i specify proxy in 64-bit firefox which is shipped with distribution is working fine, but if i specify the same proxy in 32-bit browsers like flock, netscape, seamonkey, etc.. then it is not working, i am not able to browse. any one tell me what's the problem ?
[12:08] <sharkp> menisk, ehm... haven't understood the question...
[12:09] <Uplink> |atle|: Im on prepare disk space... and i have 4 options
[12:09] <menisk> sharkp, If you know it's an AGP thing I'm no help. I've only ever done PCI-E under linux
[12:09] <Slart> knoeki: ok.. check the xorg log.. I think it's in /var/log/xorg.log .. in that log you can see what configuration file it is using
[12:09] <Fogel1497> anyways i do have a real problem.  when i try and install a theme on firefox it says "Could not install the file at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/downloads/file/27297/aero_silver_fox-1.0.2-fx.jar because: Unexpected installation error. Review the error console log for more details. -203
[12:09] <lucad> i have question about ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64. how can i run streming such wmv?
[12:09] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, ahh, was one of those dropped in Hardy by default?
[12:09] <|atle|> Uplink: use the manual one
[12:09] <daedra> could I get a nickname cloak?
[12:09] <umbrualbert> looks like smbfs was dropped
[12:09] <daedra> for irc
[12:10] <jussio1> daedra: #freenode for that
[12:10] <sharkp> yes, menisk, there's a problem with kernel agp support
[12:10] <umbrualbert> anyhow, the frontend still seem a bit broken, maybe after a reboot or X reset
[12:10] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, ahh, nods. Thank you.
[12:10] <Uplink> |atle|: ok, i have 13.02 Free disk space and im on the manual
[12:10] <knoeki> Slart: no xorg logs to be found there.
[12:10] <knoeki> oh wait
[12:10] <menisk> sharkp, I'm no help then. Haven't delt with it before.
[12:10] <knoeki> it's with a capital letter
[12:10] <knoeki> O.o
[12:10] <daedra> jussio1: thanks
[12:11] <sharkp> ok, no prob
[12:11] <dassouki> where are hte documents saved when they're printed to pdf?
[12:11] <menisk> Someone make sourceforge work kthx. >.<
[12:11] <lucad> i have ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i run streming such wmv? java?
[12:11] <marco> ok, 2nd error: I can't set the grafical effects
[12:11] <Slart> knoeki: ok.. try this "gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[12:11] <knoeki> Slart: there are a few of them... Xorg.0.log and Xorg.9.log ...which one do I need?
[12:11] <Slart> knoeki: the one with the 0 in the name
[12:11] <Slart> knoeki: the other ones are older
[12:11] <knoeki> Slart: I'll use nano, I can't use my GUI in such a low resolution ;_)
[12:12] <NIGathan> does anyone know how to get dual screens working?
[12:12] <Uplink> |atle|: ok, i have 13.02 Free disk space and im on the manual
[12:12] <Slart> knoeki: that works too =)
[12:12] <umbrualbert> Nvidia Duel Screen setup....I'm looking for 2 separate sessions
[12:12] <knoeki> or if I just have to check, less would be even better ;_)
[12:12] <knoeki> anyways.. what am I looking for?
[12:12] <hume> hi... i just upgraded to heron, and now everything I have in my home folder is shown as icons on my desktop - what to do? (running kde at the moment)
[12:12] <|atle|> Uplink: then make one 7 GB and mount it as /
[12:13] <marco> error: "Impossibile abilitare gli effetti desktop" that sounds like "unable to set desktop effects"
[12:13] <DistroJockey> umbrualbert, smb:// worked fine in Gutsy, I am disappointed it fails in Hardy. (We need that to just work)
[12:13] <|atle|> Uplink: ext 3
[12:13] <sharkp> Where can I find informations about new xorg.conf?
[12:13] <Uplink> |atle|: primary and beginning?
[12:13] <shashi> I am facing one issue with Ubuntu 8.04 AMD64. If i specify proxy in 64-bit firefox which is shipped with distribution is working fine, but if i specify the same proxy in 32-bit browsers like flock, netscape, seamonkey, etc.. then it is not working, i am not able to browse. any one tell me what's the problem ?
[12:13] <Dundee> hi, does anoyone know alternative for AbstractSpoon ToDoList? I have tried jToDoList, but it doesn't have time counter...
[12:14] <|atle|> Uplink: yes, then one extended all the rest
[12:14] <Slart> knoeki: near the top there's a line that tells you which config-file it's using..
[12:14] <lucad> i have ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i stream wmv? is there any way to use java?
[12:14] <jdownie> #olpc
[12:14] <knoeki> Slart: ah, ok.
[12:14] <marco> compiz --replace: Checking for Xgl: not present.
[12:14] <Slart> knoeki: and then there's lots and lots of info about loading of drivers etc etc etc.. if anything goes wrong there's a EE at the start of the line.. look for those..
[12:14] <|atle|> Uplink: next one swap inside that, 512 MB
[12:15] <Uplink> |atle|: primary and beginning too?
[12:15] <|atle|> Uplink: and last the remaining as one and mount it as home
[12:15] <knoeki> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe"
[12:15] <knoeki> yeah, that might be the problem right there.
[12:15] <|atle|> Uplink: no extended
[12:15] <lucad> i have ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i stream wmv? is there any way to use java?
[12:15] <Slart> knoeki: ok.. something went wrong and it defaulted to using the failsafe config
[12:15] <basvg> hmm, during install I switched to console to make a swapfile. Each time I do that the installer hangs with a message about lockup of CPU#0. Anyone seen that before?
[12:15] <knoeki> Slart: where can I modify where xorg looks for the config file?
[12:15] <Slart> knoeki: any info on what went wrong?
[12:15] <knoeki> nope, not at all.
[12:16] <Slart> knoeki: no lines starting with EE ?
[12:16] <Uplink> |atle|: doesnt say extended... just says "type for new partition ~primary ~logical"
[12:16] <wizz1> could anyone help me ? i only have 50hz screen refresh rate setting,i need 85hz,where should i edit xorg.conf
[12:16] <|atle|> sorry, logical
[12:16] <knoeki> Slart: nope, already checked that.
[12:16] <Uplink> location?
[12:16] <|atle|> beggining
[12:16] <Uplink> kk
[12:16] <|atle|> |begining
[12:16] <knoeki> wizz1: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:17] <lucad> i have ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i stream wmv? is there any way to use java?
[12:17] <DistroJockey> lucad, how much RAM do you have?
[12:17] <Slart> knoeki: and you were able to use the binary drivers before?
[12:17] <|atle|> Uplink: the last one also logical
[12:17] <lucad> 4gb
[12:17] <lucad> :D
[12:17] <wizz1> knoeki, i know how to edit,but i dont know where should i edit to make 85hz available
[12:17] <DistroJockey> lucad, stick with 32 bit (my opinion)
[12:18] <rumpel> @wizzl had same problem some minutes ago... edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf on section Monitor
[12:18] <knoeki> Slart: yup. last time I did a distro upgrade I had the same issues, but then I installed Gentoo to be over with all the troubles
[12:18] <lucad> maybe i'll think about it
[12:18] <immesys> how do I make valgrind ignore all errors in a particular library? (fglrx)
[12:18] <knoeki> wizz1: just look around in the file, it should say it somewhere.
[12:18] <lucad> but firefox open these files with totem
[12:18] <hume> anyone got ideas on why my home folder is shown as icons on my desktop after upgrade to heron?
[12:18] <LuitvD> can someone show me how to give a user access rights to USB devices?
[12:18] <Uplink> |atle|: I have 6464 space left... -logical -6465 -beginning -ext3 -mount point "/home"
[12:18] <rumpel> wizzl and add lines from the monitor specifications like     ModeLine       "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync
[12:18] <|atle|> Uplink: yes
[12:18] <DistroJockey> lucad, will save you alot of issues
[12:18] <lucad> i don't get why opera wont
[12:18] <rumpel> but dont ask me, where i got em ^
[12:19] <LuitvD> I don't want to use sudo every time I need write access to my USB debugger, how can I fix this?
[12:19] <marco> ok, 2nd error: I can't set desktop effects
[12:19] <marco> error: "Impossibile abilitare gli effetti desktop" that sounds like "unable to set desktop effects"
[12:19] <lucad> i think i'll go with 64 when i get hungry il'' format :D
[12:19] <marco> compiz --replace: Checking for Xgl: not present.
[12:19] <|atle|> Uplink: and you need to tick in the format boxes for the /home and /
[12:19] <wizz1> knoeki, i only see "	VertRefresh	50-160" on the monitor section
[12:19] <lucad> ngry
[12:19] <wizz1> and my monitor model
[12:19] <Uplink> |atle|: i was JUST about to ask that lol
[12:19] <knoeki> wizz1: hrm, then I dunno, sorry.
[12:19] <digital00> when i try to regulate the volume system it tells me "there's no Gstreamer plugin or device for regulating the volume"..which packages do i have to install?
[12:20] <Uplink> |atle|:  what about swap?
[12:20] <Slart> knoeki: mm.. I had the same thing happen to me when I upgraded to gutsy.. can't remember what I did to fix it..I now use the binary driver from nvidias site.. that works for me.. if I were in your place I'd uninstall everything nvidia-related using apt-get --purge .. and then download and install the driver from nvidia
[12:20] <lucad> again with ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i stream wmv? is there any way to use java?
[12:20] <wizz1> LuitvD, just use sudo su
[12:20] <rumpel> hardy has busted my mounted drives... entries in /dev/ for hda1... a.s.o. are missing. Any ideas?
[12:20] <|atle|> Uplink: do you only have two partitions
[12:20] <knoeki> Slart: ok.
[12:20] <wizz1> then you wont need to use sudo for every command
[12:20] <LuitvD> wizz1: no, I just want access rights without sudo
[12:20] <moon`> alright, I'm still unclear on the various version of ubuntu.  Say I want to download vlc and my options are gutsy, feisty, and edgy which one should I go with if I'm using hardy?
[12:20] <moon`> or I guess all the various names is what I'm unclear on
[12:21] <wizz1> moon`, i think gutsy would be best
[12:21] <Slart> knoeki: but then you'll break the updating you usually get by using apt-get.. and I don't know how well the nvidia drivers work on hardy.. I'm running gutsy myself
[12:21] <wizz1> but thats only what i think
[12:21] <tom`> Anyone know if the emacs-snapshot package in 8.04 includes the new font backend?
[12:21] <|atle|> Uplink: if so you need to undo changes and start over
[12:21] <nox-Hand> Anyone knwo where I can get the tango human theme in svg format?
[12:21] <nox-Hand> I need one of the arrows in svg :)
[12:21] <rumpel> hardy has busted my mounted drives... entries in /dev/ for hda1... a.s.o. are missing. Any ideas?
[12:22] <Uplink> |atle|: /dev/hda/ - /dev/hda1 ntfs /media/hda1 - /dev/hda2 ext3 / - /dev/hda5 swap - /dev/hda6 ext3 /home
[12:22] <Twim4> !nagios
[12:22] <Danieel> helo
[12:22] <lucad> ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i stream wmv? is there any way to use java?
[12:22] <Slart> Intrepid Ibex ??? and I thought Hardy Heron was bad =)
[12:23] <|atle|> Uplink: then you have swap as long as you chose linux-swap
[12:23] <Fogel1497> anyways i do have a real problem.  when i try and install a theme on firefox it says "Could not install the file at https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/downloads/file/27297/aero_silver_fox-1.0.2-fx.jar because: Unexpected installation error. Review the error console log for more details. -203
[12:23] <Uplink> |atle|: so no check for that?
[12:23] <|atle|> oh, no. no need to format swap
[12:23] <Uplink> i have / and /home checked but not swap and not /media/hda1
[12:23] <Uplink> oh ok ok TY TY
[12:24] <kelvin911> hi why desktop cube doesnt work in hardy after  click extra in appearance?
[12:24] <Uplink> do i need to migrate anything? i really dont feel like tho
[12:24] <|atle|> Uplink: right. you can also create a mount point for your ntfs partition
[12:24] <jaffarkelshac> is ext2 the primary fs ubuntu uses?
[12:24] <wobx> re
[12:24] <Uplink> |atle|:  whats that? or how do i do that?
[12:24] <marco> DistroJockey: I can't set desktop effects
[12:25] <wobx> after i upgraded to hardy heron my devices are screwed..all hdx devices turned to sdx
[12:25]  * guja_nebeska online.
[12:25] <mrpouet> hi
[12:25] <jaffarkelshac> is ext2 the primary fs ubuntu uses?
[12:25] <wobx> anyone knows how i can fix this?
[12:25] <Fogel1497> what do you want to set wobx?
[12:25] <tau> hi - trying to install ubuntu onto a 2GB flash disk, but only got to 74% before the disk was full - any ideas???
[12:25] <marco> DistroJockey: compiz --replace: Checking for Xgl: not present.
[12:25] <wizz1> tau, ubuntu is larger then 2gb,i guess
[12:25] <laeg> when i try to install the theme GDM-CleanLinux.tar.gz to preferences > appearance > theme i get an error telling me it is not a valid theme. what am i doing wrong?
[12:25] <|atle|> Uplink: just rightclick it, choose mount point, and mount it as /home/your username/windows or what you prefer
[12:25] <LuitvD> how do I get just as much rights on USB devices as root?
[12:25] <wobx> Fogel1497: i upgraded to hardy and all my pata devices are suddenly sata/scsi
[12:26] <DistroJockey> marco, what video card have yo got?
[12:26] <wobx> Fogel1497: i can't even access my dvd drive anymore
[12:26] <Fogel1497> hmm gimme a second.
[12:26] <sharkp> Why can't I change everything in xorg.conf like before hardy?
[12:26] <|atle|> Uplink: just rightclick it, edit choose mount point, and mount it as /home/your username/windows or what you prefer, do not format
[12:26] <lucad> ubuntu hardy 64 and opera 9.50b2 64: how can i stream wmv? is there any way to use java?
[12:26] <alado2> can i somehow integrate a clock and some weather info on my desktop? If anybody has been using DSL they have something like that
[12:26] <wobx> Fogel1497: right
[12:26] <laeg> sharkp: because video hardware is autodetected in hardy
[12:27] <knoeki> hahaha, how typical. of course I am not able to select my video card on the nvidia site. of course not. that would make it too easy, wouldn't it? O.o
[12:27] <babolat> I've clean-installed Hardy on my primary HD a couple of weeks ago. Gutsy was on the slave. Now that I reformatted that slave, I want Gutsy gone from grub.. is it safe to just to delete the lines pertaining to Gutsy in the menu.lst file?
[12:27] <wizz1> sharkp, if you're with nvidia,sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:27] <sharkp> laeg: but it is BADLY autodetected
[12:27] <wizz1> that way you could edit
[12:27] <marco> DistroJockey: ati
[12:27] <sharkp> I've an ATI... -.-"
[12:27] <Slart> alado2: there are some small desktop apps.. I think they are called screenlets.. google for it
[12:27] <wobx> Fogel1497: any idea so far
[12:27] <Fogel1497> I'm sorry wobx i've got to get to work. That is very strange.
[12:27] <DistroJockey> marco, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[12:27] <|atle|> knoeki: have you tried envy
[12:28] <Fogel1497> Only thing I can think of is a new clean install, but that may not be feasible or convenient for you, sorry.
[12:28] <LuitvD> I want wine to have special access rights to a USB device, and wine won't (and shouldn't be) run with sudo. How do I get root access to USB devices as a user, without using sudo?
[12:28] <|atle|> !envy | knoeki:
[12:28] <wobx> foolano: yep
, ah! thats it, many thnx
[12:28] <tau> is it possible to install ubuntu onto a compressed partition?
[12:28] <Slart> alado2: you're welcome
[12:28] <case_> hi, i'm looking for the configuration file used by ekiga to store the accounts information (there's no .ekiga* , nothing in .gnome2/ , some ekiga entries in gconf but nothing about the accounts...)
[12:28] <DistroJockey> !envyng
[12:28] <babolat> !grub
[12:29] <knoeki> |atle|: no no no, I don't want that. the problem is that NVidia / xorg think that my card can handle newer drivers, while it only works with the 71 series driver!
[12:29] <|atle|> knoeki: oh, sorry
[12:29] <knoeki> every list says I need the 96xx driver, but that's not the case.
[12:29] <Necrodrako> Hello, I just need to know, how do i change the default ALSA card via terminal. I've done it before i just dont remember the command.
[12:29] <sparkyy> hey everyone
[12:29] <knoeki> |atle|: I think I have a solution though.
[12:29] <knoeki> :_)
[12:29] <|atle|> hello
[12:29]  * DistroJockey doesn't recommend envy
[12:29] <Slart> Necrodrako: alsaconf set-default-card
[12:29] <azuki> what is more common: wep HEX or passphrase?
[12:30] <tau> anyone?
[12:30] <marco> DistroJockey: distro 8.04
[12:30] <shashi>  I am facing one issue with Ubuntu 8.04 AMD64. If i specify proxy in 64-bit firefox which is shipped with distribution is working fine, but if i specify the same proxy in 32-bit browsers like flock, netscape, seamonkey, etc.. then it is not working, i am not able to browse. any one tell me what's the problem ?
[12:30] <azuki> passphrase: doesn't connect: but hex doesn't give me a good connection
[12:30] <Slart> azuki: not all wireless things support passphrases..
[12:30] <Uplink> |atle|: i right clicked it and there is nothing about mounting :/
[12:30] <sparkyy> Does evolution data server need to be running?  Its using like 50%-100%cpu at startup until I shut it
[12:30] <case_> azuki, i don't what is the more common, but the more secure is to not use WEP but WPA(2 if available)
[12:30] <DistroJockey> marco, upgrade I assume?
[12:30] <Uplink> |atle|: oh ! on edit partition... lol ok
[12:30] <digital00> is there any command to brutally eject the cdrom??
[12:30] <case_> digital00, eject
[12:30] <|atle|> DistroJockey: neither do I but in some cases it is easier
[12:31] <Slart> digital00: I don't know if it's brutal enough for you.. but "eject"
[12:31] <laeg> when i try to install the theme GDM-CleanLinux.tar.gz to preferences > appearance > theme i get an error telling me it is not a valid theme. what am i doing wrong?