[00:09]  * enyc meows crankharder
[00:09] <enyc> indeed ubuntu 16.04LTS is out of support
[00:18] <manu_> hello?
[00:22] <tomreyn> hi manu_
[00:22] <manu_> i need help
[00:22] <manu_> i don't know how to use linux
[00:23] <tomreyn> with ubuntu? just describe the issue then, or ask your question
[00:24] <manu_> I installed obs with snap but installig the plugins or themes is hard because i can't find the paths
[00:24] <manu_> like windows
[00:24] <manu_> sorry if my english is bad im from argentina
[00:25] <manu_> and other things need to execute or install from the terminal and I don't know how to use it too
[00:26] <tomreyn> your english is fine, i'm not sure i can help with OBS, but maybe someone else can, if you describe the issue more closely. it's also good to provide some background, such as which ubuntu version you are using.
[00:26] <manu_> right now im using lubuntu
[00:26] <ravage> manu_: https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/how-do-i-install-obs-plugins-if-snap-was-used-to-install-ubuntu-20-04.123557/
[00:28] <sarnold> nice
[00:36] <manu_> i can't find obs in the snap folder
[00:38] <tomreyn> so this, in a terminal, comes back as "does not exist"?   ls -l $HOME/snap/obs-studio
[00:40] <manu_> the termina says cannot access '%HOME/snap/obs-studio': No such file or directory
[00:40] <manu_> terminal*
[00:41] <arraybolt3> $, not %.
[00:41] <manu_> oops
[00:41] <manu_> tthanks
[00:42] <manu_> it says the same
[00:42] <manu_> cannot access '/home/manu/snap/obs-studio': No such file or directory
[00:42] <sarnold> have you started obs? maybe you have to run it once to have it created?
[00:43] <manu_> obs is open
[00:43] <sarnold> :(
[00:43] <manu_> xd
[00:43] <manu_> do i restart?
[00:43] <sarnold> no, I don't think that'll help. I'm not sure what to suggest next :(
[00:44] <manu_> reinstall?
[00:44] <tomreyn> snap list obs*
[00:46] <tomreyn> does this say "error: no matching snaps installed" or something else?
[00:47] <manu_>  manu@manu-Linux:~$ ls -l %HOME/snap/obs-studio
[00:47] <manu_> ls: cannot access '%HOME/snap/obs-studio': No such file or directory
[00:47] <manu_> manu@manu-Linux:~$ ls -l $HOME/snap/obs-studio
[00:47] <manu_> ls: cannot access '/home/manu/snap/obs-studio': No such file or directory
[00:47] <manu_> manu@manu-Linux:~$ ls -l $HOME/snap list obs-studio
[00:47] <manu_> ls: cannot access 'list': No such file or directory
[00:49] <tomreyn> don't paste in here, and you'd need to use this command on its own, on a separate line.
[00:50] <tomreyn> manu_: we can read you again now, if you have more to say
[00:52] <manu_> it says No such file or directory
[00:53] <tomreyn> snap list obs*       would not say this
[00:53] <tomreyn> you must have accidentially typed something else
[00:54] <tomreyn> i need to leave for now, but keep your questions coming. good luck.
[00:54] <manu_> ok thsnks for the help
[00:55] <manu_> https://dpaste.com/9Y9YFXLK2
[00:55] <manu_> this is what a typed
[00:57] <sarnold> ah, it looks like you missed the *
[00:58] <sarnold> oh you know
[00:58] <sarnold> I don't think that even works
[00:58] <manu_> ??
[00:58] <manu_> you're right it says the same
[00:59] <sarnold> https://termbin.com/77va9
[00:59] <sarnold> I've got lots of snaps installed that match b* and c* but snap list 'b*' and snap list 'c*' show nothing :(
[01:00] <manu_> this is why i say i don't undestand linux, this things happen
[01:00] <sarnold> the frustrating thing is that the *old* package manager did this kind of thing perfectly :(
[01:01] <manu_> but i found a very unconfortable and rare way to find the  obs studio folder
[01:02] <manu_> in obs, i go to files, open settings directory and it takes me to .config folder and there is obs-studio
[01:02] <sarnold> tomreyn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snap/+bug/2006526
[01:02] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2006526 in snap (Ubuntu) "snap list doesn't do globbing" [Undecided, New]
[01:02] <sarnold> manu_: yay! :) where is it?
[01:03] <manu_> but when i go to the desktop folder, the .config folder does not appear
[01:03] <sarnold> it probably hides files and directories that start with .
[01:04] <manu_> can i change that?
[01:04] <EriC^> manu_: try 'ctrl + h' in the file manager
[01:05] <manu_> oh thanks
[01:05] <manu_> now are more folders and the .config one
[01:24] <juno__> I did an apt upgrade and I saw this message: "The following security updates require Ubuntu Pro" Does this mean I need to pay money for security updates?
[01:25] <juno__> I'm on version 20.04.5
[01:27] <arraybolt3> juno__: No.
[01:28] <arraybolt3> juno__: All of the packages that have always gotten security updates will continue to get security updates without Ubuntu Pro.
[01:28] <arraybolt3> juno__: Ubuntu Pro is a new service offering security updates for an *additional* several thousand packages that didn't used to get reliable updates in Ubuntu.
[01:28] <juno__> Ok
[01:28] <juno__> Thanks
[01:28] <arraybolt3> juno__: So without Ubuntu Pro, you'll get exactly the same security updates as you've always gotten. If you want, you can use Ubuntu Pro for free for up to five machines to get the additional updates that are now also available.
[01:29] <juno__> Oh nice
[01:30] <arraybolt3> juno__: If you *do* want to sign up for Ubuntu Pro, just make a free Ubuntu One account, then go here: https://ubuntu.com/pro and click the "Your Subscriptions" link - you will automatically have five free Ubuntu Pro licenses there, along with instructions for attaching machines to Ubuntu Pro.
[01:30] <juno__> Thanks
[01:58] <n9sgg> dsf
[02:00] <mybalzitch> I'd sure like to know what button I clicked between reboots to make it so that while my bluetooth mouse is recognized, and is paired/connected, the mouse pointer doesn't move.
[02:03] <mybalzitch> deleting the device, then pairing it again fixed it
[02:05] <cgappleuser> hello
[02:06] <cgappleuser> this is my first time here.  can anyone see my text
[02:31] <aaronprisk[m]> Greetings, cgappleuser! We can see your text.
[02:32] <arraybolt3> aaronprisk[m]: Sadly though, they can't see yours, they left. Such is the nature of Matrix.
[02:32] <arraybolt3> (Or more specifically, the Matrix-to-IRC bridge.)
[02:45] <zterm86> When I pause audio, and unpause it with my music player, it's extremely choppy. (But eventually plays normally).
[02:46] <zterm86> I'm using the latest version of Ubuntu and have tried Rhythmbox, CMS, Elisa, VLC. I'm not sure how to correct this, but was hoping to for school lectures.
[02:47] <arraybolt3> What hardware are you using currently?
[02:47] <arraybolt3> zterm86: ^
[02:48] <zterm86> I have dell XPS 13, and I believe this is RealTek, is there a specific command you want me to run?
[02:54] <sarnold> man, advice from various stack exchange sites, forums, etc, is all over the place
[02:55] <sarnold> it'd be easy to go insane trying to test those weird advices one at a time and everything
[02:59] <arraybolt3> zterm86: Sorry, got distracted.
[02:59] <arraybolt3> zterm86: Hmm, that's probably a fairly fast system. Let me do some digging...
[03:00] <zterm86> Thank you and I super appreciate it. Sorry, I typically try to do more, but I'm a bit behind of school with covid. :|
[03:00] <zterm86> Any pointers are appreciated, even if you don't have the solution.
[03:01] <sarnold> zterm86: oh dang :( sorry to hear it :(
[03:01] <arraybolt3> zterm86: Turns out there's a bunch of Dell XPS 13's out there of various ages, what's the four digits after the "13"?
[03:02] <arraybolt3> (Or the rest of the model info or whatever.)
[03:02] <zterm86> XPS-13-9305
[03:02] <arraybolt3> This is probably a silly suggestion, but you might find Bluetooth audio to be more smooth.
[03:02]  * sarnold marks down 08 feb 2023 as the first time someone suggests bluetooth audio would be more smooth :)
[03:02] <zterm86> I can try this. I did headphones, no headphones, but haven't tried my bluetooth headphones yet. Testing now.
[03:03] <BinarySavior> sarnold, the power supply fixed the issue :D
[03:03] <sarnold> BinarySavior: AWESOME :D
[03:06] <zterm86> Darn, not quite.
[03:06] <arraybolt3> That's odd - Bluetooth audio bypasses the audio subsystem of the rest of the system entirely (I believe).
[03:07] <arraybolt3> What other apps do you have running on the system, and how much RAM do you have?
[03:07] <arraybolt3> Also, can you share the output of the command "uname -r"?
[03:08] <zterm86> 16 GB (5 used), 11th gen i7,
[03:08] <zterm86> 5.15.0-58-generic
[03:08] <arraybolt3> I wonder if installing the OEM kernel would be helpful.
[03:09] <zterm86> I'd be willing to give it a try. I have the unbuntu mainline installer installed. I was troubleshooting another issue in the past.
[03:10] <arraybolt3> I'd try "sudo apt install linux-oem-22.04c" and then reboot.
[03:10] <arraybolt3> (The "c" at the end is not a typo.)
[03:10] <sarnold> why c?
[03:10] <arraybolt3> It's the latest one.
[03:10] <arraybolt3> Installs kernel 6.1 according to packages.ubuntu.com
[03:11] <arraybolt3> https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-updates/kernel/linux-oem-22.04c
[03:11] <arraybolt3> Newer kernels generally have better hardware support IIUC.
[03:12] <sarnold> aha
[03:13] <zterm86> Thank you, I'll add that to my list and will test that as soon as possible. My network is 1.5Mbps down so it'll be a while ;). But thank you soo much. I look forward to giving this a go.
[03:45] <mybalzitch> so who do I report a bug to if I install spotify via snap, try to open a spotify url via firefox, which passes it off to spotify, which either then just gives me the default splash screen if the app was previously closed, or tries to open a new copy of itself (and errors) if I click the link again
[03:46] <mybalzitch> its a http url I'm clicking on in konsole, thats getting passed to firefox
[03:48] <devnull_> test
[03:49] <sarnold> pong
[03:49] <sarnold> mybalzitch: that's an excellent question; are there any messages in dmesg or journalctl output from the time when you click the thing?
[03:54] <mybalzitch> just audit: type=1400 audit(1675828409.818:198): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" class="file" profile="snap.spotify.spotify" name="/etc/vulkan/implicit_layer.d/" pid=18638 comm="spotify" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
[03:54] <sarnold> heh, that's probably worth reporting, but I suspect you're right that that isn't involved
[03:54] <sarnold> bummer, I was sort of hoping for some sort of smoking gun there
[03:54] <sarnold> I think report to spotify first
[03:55] <sarnold> the "and errors" part feels really iffy
[04:00] <mybalzitch> their forums are just awful
[04:01] <mybalzitch> to navigate anyway
[04:02] <sarnold> I see what you mean
[04:16] <archer_> i mean
[04:17] <archer_> >/etc/vulkan/implicit_layer.d/ is the issue
[04:17] <archer_> just update apparmor policy
[04:41] <root> e;pmrm;eb
[04:41] <Guest5845> hello
[04:42] <arraybolt3> Guest5845: o/
[04:42] <arraybolt3> !rootirc
[04:42] <Guest5845> $\sqrt{-1}$
[04:43] <arraybolt3> Guest5845: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[04:44] <Guest5845> sure, are you familiar with wsl?
[04:48] <zenadm1n> I'm guessing he was running Ubuntu on Windows and logged in as root.
[04:48] <arraybolt3> That would make sense.
[04:48] <arraybolt3> (I was a bit concerned seeing odd-looking snippets of what looked like Bash code being pasted.)
[04:48] <archer_> maybe irrsi?
[04:52] <sarnold> quassel on wsl? that'd be one heck of an interesting stretch
[04:53] <sarnold> $\sqrt{-1}$ is TeX, it renders a fancy square root of negative one
[04:53] <sarnold> *wow* https://people.math.osu.edu/fowler.291/latex/
[04:54] <arraybolt3> WSL as a whole is a stretch. :P
[04:54] <sarnold> arraybolt3: *nod*
[06:40] <dick> hello
[06:42] <dick> i have know idea what im doing im just trying and i keep losing
[07:53] <fy> .
[07:53] <codeshaman> lubuntu seems way better than xubuntu
[07:53] <fy> prefer the x one
[07:55] <NatSocSiD> How can I force apt to always install the "kept back" packages? I tried this: APT::Get::Always-Include-Phased-Updates;
[07:55] <NatSocSiD> but it's not working
[08:21] <toddc> codedmart: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/about-apt-upgrade-and-phased-updates    Update-Manager::Always-Include-Phased-Updates true;   APT::Get::Always-Include-Phased-Updates true;
[08:22] <toddc> but I would not do it. just wait a few days for them to get tested
[08:26] <mhbujp> hello, I'm on 18.04.6. The libc6-armhf-cross version is 2.27. Can I downgrade to 2.19 somehow?
[08:58] <Alexey_> m_tadeu Hi Privet
[08:58] <Alexey_> Привет!
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[10:12] <Slartibart> Hi. When I run 'sudo aa-logprof' I get this message: 'ERROR: PromptUser: Duplicate hotkey for CMD_FINISHED: (F)inish'. (My translation to english) How can that be solved? I didn't know there were configurable hotkeys for command line tools?
[10:16] <NatSocSiD> [03:21:42] (toddc): codedmart: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/about-apt-upgrade-and-phased-updates Update-Manager::Always-Include-Phased-Updates true; APT::Get::Always-Include-Phased-Updates true;
[10:16] <NatSocSiD> i tried that, it's not working
[10:17] <NatSocSiD> the "kept back" packages aren't installing, I have to do "apt install package-name1 package-name2"
[10:59] <[twisti]> in my ubuntu lts 22 on wsl, multiple drives get mounted that are not in the fstab file. any idea what else could be auto-mounting them ?
[11:05] <oerheks> twisti, mounted or available on the left panel?
[11:06] <oerheks> that is just an indicator that the partition(s) are available, not a mounted drive
[11:15] <Kolev> Where is cert.pem?
[11:16] <KinyasK> Hi
[11:16] <KinyasK> How's everyone
[11:21] <oerheks> Kolev, https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/security-trust-store
[11:21] <oerheks> so easy to find..
[11:22] <oerheks> find / |grep "\.pem"
[12:09] <iconoclasthero> can gnome-books be compiled and installed on ubuntu 22.10?
[12:11] <ogra> iconoclasthero, why would you want to compile it instead of using the package from the archive ?
[12:12] <iconoclasthero> which archive?
[12:12] <oerheks> !info gnome-books
[12:13] <oerheks> it is part of universe repo
[12:13] <ogra> it does in jammy
[12:13] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/gnome-books
[12:13] <oerheks> jups, not available for kinetic.. somehow
[12:14] <ogra> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-books yeah ... weird
[12:14] <oerheks> !info calibre
[12:14] <oerheks> good alternative
[12:14] <iconoclasthero> calibre has been my go to but it is too complex sometimes
[12:14] <iconoclasthero> and presently i cannot get it to shut down
[12:14] <ogra> someone should make a snap 🙂
[12:15] <iconoclasthero> i think i got all the dependencies installed but when i try meson build i now get...
[12:15] <iconoclasthero> data/meson.build:6:0: ERROR: Sandbox violation: Tried to grab file gd-main-view.h from a nested subproject
[12:16] <oerheks> oh, gnome-books is no longer maintained
[12:16] <oerheks> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/gnome-books-looking-for-a-maintainer/8912
[12:17] <iconoclasthero> yeah, i figured that much, but i was hoping it was at least something i could build and install in 22.10 since it was available f/22.04
[12:17] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/foliate
[12:18] <iconoclasthero> meson log: https://pastebin.com/usQCNe6U
[12:19] <oerheks> grab version 40 and install it with dpkg -i  http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gnome-books/
[12:22] <iconoclasthero> here's the issue
[12:22] <iconoclasthero> libgnome-desktop-3-20 is already the newest version (43-2).
[12:22] <iconoclasthero>  gnome-books : Depends: gnome-online-miners but it is not going to be installed
[12:22] <iconoclasthero>                Depends: libgnome-desktop-3-19 (>= 3.17.92) but it is not installable
[12:22] <ogra> yeah, dont do that ... you relly want a snap for such a case
[12:22] <ogra> *really
[12:24] <iconoclasthero> is there anything useful with this ./gnome-books/flatpak/org.gnome.Books.json ?
[12:24] <ogra> no idea, i dont use flatpaks
[12:25] <ogra> (but should have a snap in a few minutes for you to try locally)
[12:26] <ogra> (if the network here wouldnt be s slow 😛)
[12:30] <iconoclasthero> ok, thanks
[12:30] <iconoclasthero> how do you do that?
[12:32] <webchat23> Hello
[12:32] <webchat23> Hello
[12:32] <oerheks> iconoclasthero, ogra will tell you when it is ready
[12:32] <webchat23> Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy/InRelease
[12:33] <webchat23> It's showing in my system
[12:33] <webchat23> May i know why and how to fix this
[12:33] <webchat23> I can't even clean anything with bleach bit
[12:34] <ogra> webchat23, sudo snap install snapcraft --classic ... create a dir ... i.e. gnome-books ... create a file in that dir that is called snapcraft.yaml and has this content: https://termbin.com/bpqj
[12:35] <ogra> webchat23, then go into that dir and just run "snapcraft", it will create a .snap file that you can ten install with: "sudo snap install --dangerous *.snap" from that dir ...
[12:35] <webchat23> user@user:-/Desktop
[12:35] <webchat23> err:/ https://ppa.launchpaucontent.net/videotan/state-gatty/ubuntu jammy
[12:35] <webchat23> ase Temporary failure resolving 'ppa.launchpadcontent.net Reading package lists... Done I
[12:35] <webchat23> W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy/InRelease mporary failure resolving 'in.archive.ubuntu.com'
[12:35] <webchat23> W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/janny-updates/I ease Temporary failure resolving 'in.archive.ubuntu.com W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/janny-backports)
[12:35] <webchat23> elease Temporary failure resolving 'in.archive.ubuntu.com W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/janny-security/Inf ase Temporary failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com'
[12:36] <oerheks> !paste
[12:37] <oerheks> webchat23, change mirror to main? here i can download http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy/InRelease fine.
[12:38] <ravage> that looks like a general DNS problem
[12:39] <oerheks> or try an other india mirror https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[12:41] <ravage> security.ubuntu.com does not resolve
[12:41] <ravage> he just has to fix his dns
[12:56] <ogra> bah, gnome-books hardcodes paths all over the place ... here is a snapcrayft.yaml that fixes that ...
[13:04] <iconoclasthero> ogra:  what's that mean?
[13:04] <iconoclasthero> fwiw, i just used a webapp to convert the .epub to .pdf so i could extract the chapter i wanted..... i guessi should try using it on one of my Jammy machines to see if it's even something i'd want
[13:04] <ogra> iconoclasthero, i was just commenting on the above receipe to build a gnome-books snap that i gave
[13:05] <ogra> but looks like gnome-books si actually quite a mess and maze of hardcoded paths, that needs a bit more work i fear
[13:06] <ogra> (usually creating a snap from an existing deb to make it available on all releases/distros is a matter of minutes ... but sadly nt in that case)
[13:07] <iconoclasthero> ok
[13:07] <iconoclasthero> let me try it on my server with x over ssh
[13:13] <iconoclasthero> Well this is retarded...  I can't open any files that aren't in my ~/Documents.  that's fantastically useful.
[13:14] <iconoclasthero> apparently cannot print
[13:56] <gentoohacker> what I/O Schedulers among BFQ, MQ-Deadline and Kyber, do you guys suggest for NVME Drive, SATA SSD And SATA HDD
[14:10] <pickanick> hi seamonkey is a HTML editor with WYSIWYG mode. Feature I like is not webpage creation but table extraction:  can open up a webpage saved from the internet, and delete everything around a table, and save the table. It's not in the ubuntu repos. Is there a modern way to get the same result?
[14:20] <oerheks> pickanick, download the deb from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ ... but v2.53 is already 2 years old
[14:20] <oerheks> use at your own risk!
[14:22] <anfanite396> How do I set the no. of cores for a process in terminal?
[14:22] <anfanite396> I have been trying on various sites but could not find a concrete answer
[14:23] <leftyfb> pickanick: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6854586/how-to-extract-data-from-html-table-in-shell-script
[14:24] <leftyfb> anfanite396: that should be done at the process level. As in, developed as a feature of the program, not the OS
[14:24] <anfanite396> thanks. i'll try to refer the documentation
[16:18] <kubuntu> hi guys i am having some problem with my ubuntu install and my rtx 3080 gpu with triple monitors.
[16:19] <kubuntu> all the details here -> https://paste.debian.net/1270031/
[16:20] <kubuntu> the problem is that of the three monitors only two work the third remains black.
[16:20] <kubuntu> I gave a : sudo nvidia-xconfig and it created the xorg.conf
[16:21] <kubuntu> here the content -> https://paste.debian.net/1270032/
[17:00] <xbox> firoflex
[17:05] <hermano> Performing an installation on a completely new computer, get "hid-generic 0003:0B05:180F.0002': No inputs registered, leaving.
[17:06] <gordonjcp> hermano: yes?
[17:06] <hermano> My understanding is that this error is normally caused due to lacking mouse or keyboard. I have tested with 2 sets of keyboard and mouse, and having them plugged in all of them.
[17:07] <ravage> what is your actual problem?
[17:07] <hermano> I could use the keyboard during the installation but not the mouse.
[17:07] <hermano> ravage, after new installation of ubuntu 22.04 when reboot, system hangs on above mentioned error.
[17:09] <oerheks> hermano, new computer? check for a bios update.
[17:10] <ravage> and also of the BIOS has an option to enable legacy USB
[17:10] <ravage> *if
[17:11] <Kolev> Where is cert.pem on the file system?
[17:11] <ravage> Kolev: sudo find / -type f -name cert.pem
[17:11] <oerheks> Kolev, i answered that a wile back
[17:12] <Kolev> ravage: thanks. Sorry, i didnt see a mention.
[17:12] <oerheks> don't ask and forget
[17:12] <leftyfb> Kolev: that's a loaded question. You need to provide way more context
[17:12] <Kolev> leftyfb: im trying to set up msmtp
[17:13] <leftyfb> Kolev: the quick and likely answer is, it isn't. It's wherever you put it or where the program you used to create it stores it.
[17:13] <hermano> ravage, Will check for BIOS update, the USB support is set to "full initial" which should make all USB to work in OS an post.
[17:15] <leftyfb> Kolev: in that case, you need to generate your own certs
[17:15] <hermano> ravage, bios is from 16th of Jan 2023.
[17:16] <Kolev> leftyfb: hm. msmtp doesnt say to do that. most guides just assume the file is there.
[17:16] <hermano> ravage, Obviously the keyboard works during ubuntu installation, so I think I might try the mouse on the rear of computer, maybe something strange with top front panel of usb.
[17:17] <leftyfb> Kolev: it's not
[17:19] <Kolev> leftyfb: ok, thanks. I'll see what i can do when i get home.
[17:38] <hermano> Keyboard and mouse works now fine in bios, but still get errors exiting bios, "hdi-generic, no inputs registered, leaving". Do i need to perform some root ubuntu pre installation?
[18:18] <le4> hello, ubuntu lts 22.04 has acpi errors, and the message that disabled sgx always appears in the bios at the beginning of the boot and during the boot these error messages appear twice, I noticed these errors from lts 14.04, in an old notebook. Now I'm using another notebook.
[18:18] <le4> The system has constant crashes and crashes, using or not using the internet on youtube.
[18:18] <le4> When I'm not using the internet, the system hangs a little when I move the mouse.
[18:18] <le4> On youtube, 4k60fps is supported here, but it's still not streaming at that resolution. It also supports 8k60fps, but it's still not streaming well.
[18:18] <le4> Lenovo Ideapad 330, Intel Celeron N4000, 4 GB RAM, 1366 x 768p 60 Hz resolution, use secure boot.
[18:18] <le4> Other feedbacks:
[18:23] <le4> hello, ubuntu lts 22.04 has acpi errors, and the message that disabled sgx always appears in the bios at the beginning of the boot and during the boot these error messages appear twice, I noticed these errors from lts 14.04, in an old notebook. Now I'm using another notebook.
[18:23] <le4> The system has constant crashes and crashes, using or not using the internet on youtube.
[18:23] <le4> When I'm not using the internet, the system hangs a little when I move the mouse.
[18:23] <le4> On youtube, 4k60fps is supported here, but it's still not streaming at that resolution. It also supports 8k60fps, but it's still not streaming well.
[18:23] <le4> Lenovo Ideapad 330, Intel Celeron N4000, 4 GB RAM, 1366 x 768p 60 Hz resolution, use secure boot.
[18:23] <le4> Other feedbacks:
[18:29] <le4> https://dpaste.com/DHHCNPJWZ
[18:32] <ash_mobile> Trying to install Ubuntu server 22 on a device with a new hard drive. Ruining into an error: probing for devices failed
[18:33] <ash_mobile> Running*
[18:38] <myk_> Hi, I am on Ubuntu 20.04 using grub 2.04 I am trying to figure out how to  edit a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf I do not have terminal access
[18:38] <myk_> I have video-dummy installed which creates a Headless display. The only way I was able to access the computer was with teamviewer
[18:41] <myk_> help?
[18:44] <leftyfb> myk_: what do you mean you don't have terminal access?
[18:44] <myk_> no terminal access
[18:44] <leftyfb> !yy.mm | ash_mobile
[18:44] <leftyfb> myk_: why don't you have terminal access? What sort of machine is this?
[18:45] <ash_mobile> leftyfb 22.04
[18:45] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: did/does this machine have Windows on it?
[18:45] <myk_> regular ubuntu but installing headless video-dummy does something that when you plug a monitor in youi cant see the display. I am trying to disable it though grub
[18:46] <leftyfb> myk_: boot it with a live cd/usb, mount the root filesystem and make your changes that way
[18:46] <ash_mobile> leftyfb: yeah, On a hard drive that's no longer in the machine
[18:46] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: go into the BIOS and disable the RAID
[18:46] <myk_> someone was saying something about getting in single user mode
[18:46] <ash_mobile> leftyfb: roger
[18:47] <leftyfb> myk_: ok, then do that if you can
[18:47] <myk_> i dont know how
[18:47] <leftyfb> !recovery | myk_
[18:47] <myk_> also grub goes so fast I cant see or select advanced
[18:48] <myk_> its not that I installed a script that blanks out the screen
[18:48] <rfm> myk_, how about just pressing ctrl-alt-F1 (or F2, F3...), getting a text console. log on there
[18:49] <myk_> let me try
[18:49] <myk_> no doesnt work
[18:50] <ash_mobile> I don't see raid in bios
[18:50] <ash_mobile> However there is SATA operating: normal/legacy
[18:50] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: what about Intel Rapid Store?
[18:52] <ash_mobile> I didn't see anything about that either, but it's a really old device
[18:52] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: are you sure your new drive is connected and functioning properly?
[18:52] <ash_mobile> The Windows that came off it was XP
[18:52] <ash_mobile> the bios detects it, and it was listed in lsblk
[18:54] <myk_> anyway to edit /etc/X11/xorg.cfg
[18:54] <myk_> through grub?
[18:54] <ash_mobile> At least what was listed for sda was big enough to be it
[18:55] <myk_> I can pull up a in GRUB by ls /etc
[18:55] <myk_> but I can figure out how to edit
[18:56] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: are you sure that wasn't the usb or another drive?
[18:56] <leftyfb> myk_: no, you can't edit /etc/ from a GRUB prompt
[18:56] <leftyfb> myk_: boot with a live usb
[18:56] <ash_mobile> I don't think so, but I'll check again
[18:57] <myk_> ok thank you I will try it
[18:59] <ash_mobile> leftyfb: actually, I don't see anything as /mnt/usb but it's definitely not 3.6T
[18:59] <myk_> is there a way to just get the grub conf file up in grub and comment out a line?
[18:59] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: ah, a machine that old is probably going to have issues seeing drives over 2TB
[19:00] <ash_mobile> So... Abandon this machine?
[19:00] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: try a smaller drive, under 2TB
[19:01] <ash_mobile> Well, I could do that, but I kind of wanted to use this hdd
[19:02] <ash_mobile> So, my guess is I should either replace parts or get a different machine
[19:02] <leftyfb> I'm trying to verify if this is an OS/partition/kernel level limitation or if it's also a motherboard limitation
[19:03] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: it might be quicker for you to verify with a smaller drive
[19:03] <leftyfb> I know you need a GPT partition scheme, but the installer should do that automatically
[19:05] <ash_mobile> Perhaps, but I'll have to go through some effort because I don't have a blank one sitting around. The old one has Windows on so I think I need to partition it to use it
[19:06] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: do you really need to keep an install of XP around?
[19:06] <ash_mobile> It's more about the data
[19:07] <ash_mobile> I could go through it, but it'll take some time
[19:07] <leftyfb> ash_mobile: the data isn't important if it's not backed up. Regardless, how important is the data from an OS that was released 22 years ago and went EOL 9 years ago?
[19:09] <ash_mobile> It's just personal stuff; docs, pics, videos etc
[19:11] <ash_mobile> leftyfb: I'd ping you more if I were on a different client
[19:12] <ash_mobile> leftyfb I'll try again later, thanks
[19:25] <espaun> hi
[19:39] <myk_> anyway Ok I have created a boot image on usb but grub goes to fast for me to select advanced. is there a way to fix this or a diffrent way to book
[19:39] <myk_> boot?
[19:46] <yes-ubuntu> Hello! I have a laptop that went to sleep and after I open the lid, there is completely black screen (like, not even electricity in it), however, I can ssh into it from my other laptop
[19:47] <yes-ubuntu> if I reboot the blank screen laptop, the system is ok (although, using nomodeset); is there any way to turn the display back on via ssh? something like modprobe? or start the video card?
[19:48] <yes-ubuntu> or, have the display shown vis ssh to the remote laptop?
[19:54] <loller_> hey, anyone have a clue why Linux Mint 21.1 (Ubuntu 22.04) would take both the sound card output and the microphone input whenever I record something?
[19:54] <loller_> so for example if I am on Zoom, everyone hears both what it's in my microphone and whatever I am listening to
[19:54] <loller_> this was for a while after I changed the ALSA profile, but now the problem is back again
[19:58] <tomreyn> yes-ubuntu: try a bios update
[19:58] <myk_> I am booted into ubuntu 20.04 usb now I am trying to repair hd via terminal. how to I access the partition?
[19:59] <yes-ubuntu> tomreyn, done that... no help; but I am still in ssh now and can issue commands if there is any good idea?
[19:59] <tomreyn> myk_: what do you mean by "repair the hd"?
[20:00] <myk_> I need to mod a file in /etc
[20:01] <tomreyn> yes-ubuntu: i don't have a good suggestion at hand.
[20:02] <tomreyn> myk_: you can use the graphical file manager to mount file systems and then edit the file.
[20:03] <loller_> I have now tried changing the sound card profile to output:analog-stereo
[20:04] <loller_> using pactl
[20:04] <loller_> but then I lose the mic input
[20:04] <loller_> it's gone as a device
[20:04] <loller_> so I can somehow not enable both output and input without mixing them?
[20:04] <loller_> it's very strange
[20:04] <tomreyn> loller_: i think linux mint support is on irc.spotchat.org
[20:05] <loller_> ok but this is identical I think
[20:05] <tomreyn> it is not
[20:05] <loller_> it's Ubuntu 20.04 underneath
[20:06] <tomreyn> please double-check your facts.
[20:07] <yes-ubuntu> I have firefox running and had youtube play a 1 hour song off the internet... any way for me to restart that youtube video via ssh?! :D
[20:07] <loller_> well my previous profile was output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo
[20:07] <loller_> that gives me 1 source and 1 sink
[20:07] <loller_> but I can't separate them for some reason
[20:11] <loller_> when I run "pactl list sources", I get this here is under the relevant device:
[20:11] <loller_> Active Port: analog-input-mic
[20:12] <webchat55> Seeing a weird apt update bug:
[20:12] <webchat55> Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke 'rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/*.deb /var/cache/apt/*.bin || true'
[20:12] <webchat55> Sub-process returned an error code
[20:12] <loller_> shouldn't it get sound only from that port then?
[20:12] <webchat55> Any hints on how to debug this?
[20:13] <hermano_> Really frustrating. While installing ubuntu 22.04 on a new computer, I loose the keyboard/mouse. Actually they work in bios and as part of ubuntu installation, but when ubuntu installation is finalize and I remove the usb stick, it performs a reboot. I still get "hid-generic: No inputs registered, leaving" and it does not timeout nor continues.
[20:14] <yes-ubuntu> is there any other irc chat where I can get good ideas on how to tackle the blank screen issue?
[20:16] <tomreyn> hermano_: which computer model is this?
[20:17] <tomreyn> hermano_: are you using a usb hub there?
[20:17] <hermano_> tomreyn, The motherboard is an: Gigabyte B760 Gaming X AX DDR4
[20:18] <tomreyn> hermano_: is the bios up to date?
[20:18] <hermano_> tomreyn, no usb hub, I had the machine built from supplier so I am not sure the front usb is actually connected, so I am using the rear usb connection.
[20:18] <hermano_> tomreyn, Bios is from 16th of Jan 2023.
[20:19] <hermano_> tomreyn, I also connected the screen with hdmi to the motherboard graphic card, to secure that it is not the extra graphic card causing any problem.
[20:20] <tomreyn> hermano_: so, for me to understand it correctly: installing ubuntu 22.04 worked fine. after installing it, boot stalls indefinitely emitting this message: "hid-generic: No inputs registered, leaving". is this correct?
[20:21] <hermano_> tomreyn, yes.
[20:22] <tomreyn> hermano_: can you try booting in recovery then and see if you can use the keyboard there?
[20:22] <tomreyn> !recovery
[20:22] <hermano_> tomreyn, Just a wild guess but the motherboard has bluetooth. Could it be that the errors are connected to bluetooth devices (headset and another mouse)?
[20:23] <tomreyn> hermano_: is your keyboard connected using bluetooth, though?
[20:24] <tomreyn> from what i read online, "hid-generic: No inputs registered, leaving" is just partial output. can you get the full line?
[20:24] <hermano_> No, both keyboard and mouse are usb cable.
[20:25] <tomreyn> "hid-generic [what does it say here?]: No inputs registered, leaving"
[20:27] <hermano_> hid-generic 0003:0B05:180F.0002: No inuts registered, leaving. mtd device must be supplied (device name is empty).
[20:27] <hermano_> "inputs".
[20:28] <tomreyn> that's an ASUSTeK XONAR SOUND CARD apparently
[20:28] <tomreyn> can you disconnect that?
[20:29] <hermano_> Yes, I have a sound card inserted with that name (external). Thing is that the supplier installed windows OS as default, and I reinstalled the machine with ubuntu 22.04.Is one way to solve the problem temporarily to disable tat sound card in bios?
[20:30] <hermano_> I have this as extra card (ASUS Xonar AE 7.1), but might be the built-in sound card is also a ASUS, have to check.
[20:30] <tomreyn> possibly. i see reports of this sourd card blocking keyboard input
[20:30] <tomreyn> is it onboard?
[20:31] <lukdk> hello, I'm having trouuble with grub after installing ubuntu on a VM.. I can only boot when i first go to the recovery mode, to select the option resume boot... I seem to find many articles with boot issues, but don't know which I should try to fix this... If i got an error message somewhere i would have something to look for, in my case the system seems to attempt to boot and just stops at the be
[20:31] <lukdk> *beginning
[20:31] <hermano_> The ASUS Xonar AE 7.1 is an extra inserted card (not incorporated in the motherboard).
[20:32] <tomreyn> hermano_: then i suggest removing it temporarily and seeing whether that will enable you to boot with keyboard and mouse support
[20:33] <tomreyn> oh, that's a pcie card, not usb, right?
[20:35] <tomreyn> lukdk: to me, this sounds like a graphics related issue, possibly with the virtualization you're using. which virtualization are you using, is it fully up to date, and does it support your ubuntu version?
[20:35] <hermano_> tomreyn, yes the external sound card is inserted in a pci_ex slot. Not usb.
[20:36] <tomreyn> hermano_: hmm, well, i'd try nevertheless, since it does seem to be related. i assume it may provide an usb hub and that may cause the issue.
[20:36] <hermano_> tomreyn, plan to use virtualization but have not checked nor activated that in BIOS intentionally yet.
[20:37] <tomreyn> hermano_: okay, but i wasn't talking to *you* about virtualization ;)
[20:39] <bensherman> I am getting an intermittent error when I run apt-get update on a fresh AMI from us-east-1 (aws ec2) - I am not sure where I can look for help (or file an issue). It started with the version that was posted yesterday.
[20:39] <bensherman> The error is about missing files - E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_focal_multiverse_cnf_Commands-amd64 - open (2: No such file or directory)
[20:39] <hermano_> tomreyn, sorry
[20:40] <bensherman> that file does indeed not exist - there are files specific to the AWS region we are using though.
[20:41] <tomreyn> bensherman: try #ubuntu-cloud
[20:41] <bensherman> gracias
[20:44] <tomreyn> hermano_: no worries, so i'd try removing the sound card and see whether this improves anything, and then continue from there.
[21:24] <myk_> booted up to ubuntu recovery   can not save any file. how do i get write access?
[21:25] <hermano_> myk_, recovery mode is read-only.
[21:25] <sarnold> depending upon what's going on, it might be best to use a usb memory stick or usb mass storage device, or a network share, but you might also be able to use mount -oremount,rw /path/to/filesystem
[21:25] <myk_> thank you
[21:25] <myk_> i am booted up to the usb
[21:28] <tomreyn> for what it's worth, the option to enable networking in the recovery menu should also give you write access to the root file system.
[21:37] <hermano__> tomreyn, I rather not take out the card, but ok let's say I take it out. After bios/ubuntu start without the card, would I be able to put it back or do you think it would conflict aftewards also?
[21:40] <oerheks> kernel update 5.15.0-60
[21:41] <hermano> tomreyn, After a extremely long waiting it just went through to ubuntu OS.
[21:42] <yes-ubuntu> so, I am trying to somehow restart the video on the laptop with black screen via ssh; so far, I have done sudo service gdm stop and then sudo modprobe -r i915 then modprobe i915 and service gdm start --- but all without any change, the screen is still pitch black :)  Any more ideas?
[21:42] <yes-ubuntu> Ubuntu 22.10 is still alive there though as I have two ssh terminals open and one is running top
[21:43] <leftyfb> yes-ubuntu: reboot
[21:43] <yes-ubuntu> leftyfb: nooo... anything else? :)
[21:56] <swensson> Hello, if I recall correctly, wasn't "grep -r "mytext" /var/www/   going to give me the line # on what where string was?
[21:56] <leftyfb> swensson: -n
[21:57] <leftyfb> swensson: from the man page:        -n, --line-number
[21:57] <leftyfb>               Prefix each line of output with the 1-based line number within its input file.
[21:57] <swensson> leftyfb: Yep, correct. Thank you
[22:01] <yes-ubuntu> Does ssh -X work on Ubuntu 22.10 ?
[22:03] <sarnold> yes-ubuntu: I haven't heard that it's broken yet, but I don't have one to test with myself
[22:03] <leftyfb> I'm pretty sure it doesn't work with wayland
[22:03] <sarnold> yes-ubuntu: it might only work with an xorg session though, I don't think wayland allows clients on separate hosts from servers
[22:03] <leftyfb> which I'm pretty sure if the default in 22.10
[22:05] <yes-ubuntu> So, is there any way other than remote desktop to see graphical user interface from a remote laptop if I only have ssh access at the moment?
[22:05] <leftyfb> yes-ubuntu: you can switch to xorg from wayland and use ssh -X
[22:05] <leftyfb> or use VNC or services like teamviewer
[22:06] <sarnold> ssh -X won't let you see a desktop
[22:06] <sarnold> it lets you run a client
[22:06] <leftyfb> well yeah, that too :)
[22:06] <sarnold> I think "seeing a desktop" requires something more like vnc, as leftyfb said, or rdp, if linux supports that
[22:06] <sarnold> or, uh, rather than "if linux supports that", "if an rdp client and server are available"
[22:06] <yes-ubuntu> sarnold: What does it mean "it lets you run a client" ?
[22:07] <sarnold> yes-ubuntu: you could run eg an xterm or evince or something on a remote computer but view the output locally
[22:08] <yes-ubuntu> if rdp is remote desktop then yes, Ubuntu 22.10 does support rdp :)  I tried it! it worked super cool! But now, I am trying to see if I can wake up the video by any chance...
[22:09] <yes-ubuntu> sarnold: I heard about xterm but haven't used it just yet
[22:09] <hermano__> yes-ubuntu, Install and run remmina. It runs both ssh and rdp.
[22:43] <heinlein> The tomcat9 package in Jammy installs a tomcat user with a home directory of /var/lib/tomcat, but the package creates /var/lib/tomcat9. Some apps that require a keystore need it located in the user's home directory, so that omission can be significant.
[22:44] <heinlein> Is this a known thing? Have I missed something important?
[22:45] <sarnold> heinlein: possibly related https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomcat9/+bug/1834139
[22:45] <tomreyn> hermano__: install the pending updates, reboot, see whether it helps
[22:45] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1834139 in tomcat9 (Ubuntu) "The tomcat9 user tomcat has wrong home directory /" [Undecided, New]
[22:46] <heinlein> I know that the tomcat user home directory was "/" in 18.04.
[22:47] <yes-ubuntu> hermano__: thank you, I have it installed
[22:48] <heinlein> for now, i've created a symlink, tomcat -> tomcat9, but that feels messy.
[22:48] <yes-ubuntu> I have rebooted the laptop with blank screen; then I tried to stop and restart gdm remotely via ssh to see how it works, and it works nicely! :)
[22:49] <yes-ubuntu> just that after, I tried modprobe -r i915 and this was successful... and still, the graphical user interface is running fine like before, without the i915 module? how is that possible? Or, is this because the system now runs with nomodeset?
[22:51] <sarnold> it's possible the module had been removed, but the memory hadn't been overwritten with over stuff yet
[22:51] <sarnold> removing kernel modules is not a very safe operation
[22:52] <tomreyn> heinlein: personally, i'd say the main issue there is that "Some apps that require a keystore need it located in the user's home directory". but i gues sthe home directory of the tomcat user should exist if that's a user which is created automatically / by default. if you can confirm this then i'd suggest to file another bug report.
[22:55] <yes-ubuntu> sarnold: I do understand! However, what's the worst that can happen? Freeze? Restart, reboot :)  other than that... and this now is a test machine as I am trying to see if I can do anything about this blank screen after waking up from sleep.
[23:00] <lukdk> hello, I'm having trouuble with grub after installing ubuntu on a VM.. I can only boot when i first go to the recovery mode, to select the option resume boot... I seem to find many articles with boot issues, but don't know which I should try to fix this... If i got an error message somewhere i would have something to look for, in my case the system seems to attempt to boot and just stops at the be
[23:02] <myk_> ok I am trying to install a package in recovery teamviewer or update it buty i keep getting dpkg error
[23:03] <myk_> i am thinking its because it will not write to the drive. so how i specify to install to the mounted rw systerm
[23:04] <tomreyn> lukdk: last time you were here and asked almost the same, i answered this: to me, this sounds like a graphics related issue, possibly with the virtualization you're using. which virtualization are you using, is it fully up to date, and does it support your ubuntu version?
[23:04] <myk_> video-dummy
[23:05] <tomreyn> lukdk: note that your message cuts off after "in my case the system seems to attempt to boot and just stops at the be"
[23:07] <tomreyn> myk_: use apt to install packages, not dpkg directly, unless you know it has no dependencies. i would not recommend making changes in recovery unless that's really the only way you can. this should mount the file system writable: mount -o remount,rw /
[23:10] <myk_> in recovery i am trying to install apt install ./teamviewer but i keep getting dkpg run repair
[23:10] <myk_> i do it but no reolve
[23:10] <myk_> resolve
[23:14] <tomreyn> i'm not sure what a "dkpg run repair" is
[23:18] <yes-ubuntu> Hey... I have modprobe -r i915 (the graphics module) and I stopped and started gdm and it works! Is that possible? no crash, all good. If so, why is i915 even loaded (if not in use?)
[23:21] <tomreyn> do you know that it is?
[23:25] <myk_> so teamviewer was my only way in to this computer. A teamviewer update knocked the only way I could get in out. I am trying to figure out how to uninstall teamviewer and reinstall. but everytime I try to install with Apt I get an error with dkpg
[23:26] <myk_> i used mount -o remount,rw /partition
[23:27] <Jeremy31> yes-ubuntu: If you really needed i915, you wouldn't be able to successfully run that command
[23:39] <hermano>  I have a somewhat strange situation, if i boot my machine with the usb installation stick of ubuntu 22.04 then it finds the external sound card and i also hear the sound. This is with the integrated graphic card. As soon as I unplugg the usb memstick and/or swap to the external graphical card, the computer will not start.
[23:40] <hermano> I guess I will have to give up, and do as someone recommended. To physically unplugg the problematic sound card and see if ubuntu 22.04 manage to load as OS.
[23:41] <myk_> well I just remembered I setup a backup with zoho lol
[23:41] <myk_> so I'm in
[23:41] <myk_> but still this should have been easy
[23:42] <myk_>  Thank you all for your help good Humans!


[03:45] <andreserl> hi all, anyone quickly expert around?
[03:49] <jimisrvrox> Anybody good with wireless in here? I was having some issues but got them fixed but ive got a few questions as to what the culprit could have been
[13:09] <asac> didrocks: there? whats the current mechanism to shutdown again in unity?
[13:09] <asac> like if there are not enough GL features etc?
[13:10] <asac> i can start unity using mutter --plugins=... ... but it seems to restart over and over if i go through the gdm session
[14:28] <Zdra> Hello, how can I get source package from maverick? packages.ubuntu.com doesn't seems to get maverick packages
[14:29] <james_w> Zdra: launchpad
[14:30] <james_w> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[14:30] <james_w> or https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<package name> if you know the source package name
[14:31] <Zdra> ah, of course... thanks :)
[15:04] <ScottL> Zdra, if you are running maverick you can also type, 'apt-get source <package name>'
[15:04] <ScottL> make sure you are in a good directory for it because it will dump the source code in the current directory
[15:04] <Zdra> ScottL, I know that ;)
[15:04] <Zdra> ScottL, running lucid here, just wanted to backport glib/dconf
[15:04] <fredp> Zdra: or you could add a deb-src line pointing to maverick.
[15:07] <ScottL> yeah, i've edited sources.list for backporting as fredp mentions
[15:11] <Zdra> good idea
[15:12] <Zdra> dget with the launchpad url worked too :)
[15:29] <Zdra> Hm, does someone knows why the maverick GTK package depends on newer libx* which are not in lucid?


[14:38] <tr4ck3ur> Hi
[14:39] <tr4ck3ur> is there any fix plan on that https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5100/the-mms-lost-story/130
[14:39] <tr4ck3ur> i don't understand well how to fix it (Nexus 5)
[14:41] <tr4ck3ur> from the database i get "Code":"x-ubports-nuntium-mms-error-activate-context","Message":"no context available to activate",
[14:59] <tr4ck3ur> hum, ok my fault, have to activate mobile data ^^"
[15:00] <tr4ck3ur> that works sorry for disturb