[01:01] <cesarpinto1980> hello guys
[01:01] <cesarpinto1980> support request from a newbie here?
[01:03] <cesarpinto1980> alguien habla espanol?
[01:03] <cesarpinto1980> por casualidad?
[01:04] <cesarpinto1980> im just trying to fix the screen resolution on my newly installed xubuntu ver 9.04
[01:04] <cesarpinto1980> i only get 800x600 option
[01:05] <cesarpinto1980> i tried to fix it with the instructions on the xubuntu website
[01:05] <cesarpinto1980> but im not very familiar with linux
[01:05] <cesarpinto1980> maybe there is someone who can help me for a few mins?
[01:05] <cesarpinto1980> pleeease?#
[01:16] <Roybot> cesarpint: Maybe you dont have the right drivers for your  graphics card
[01:40] <benchik> say guys. whats most of xubuntu developing deals with? python/bash scripts?
[01:42] <knome> those and of course bugfixing things that are important to xubuntu.
[01:42] <knome> of course "development" is a lot more, for example decisions about default applications
[01:43] <benchik> knome: suppose i want to contribute. should i know both python and shell script. or one of them will suffice?
[01:44] <knome> it's a lot more than python (and definitely more than bash scripts)
[01:44] <knome> benchik, see http://xubuntu.org/contribute
[01:44] <knome> benchik, you should at least join the xubuntu-devel mailing list and it would be nice if you joined #xubuntu-devel
[01:45] <knome> benchik, knowing what you would like to help would be awesome as well :)
[01:45] <knome> *help with
[01:46] <benchik> knome: will check that. thanks. basically my current scipting knowledge is python and perl. planning to learn bash scripting pretty soon
[01:47] <knome> tbh, bash scripting isn't exactly what we need :) there's only a few things that are done with them.
[01:48] <benchik> knome: so most scripting is python?
[01:48] <knome> yes, there's more things in python
[02:06] <papul> can i install xubuntu in a netbook
[02:07] <papul> will xubuntu run on netbooks?
[02:08] <knome> papul, i run xubuntu on my eeepc.
[02:08] <knome> papul, though apart from eeepc's, i don't know what the hardware compatibility is.
[02:13] <cagey> is this an acceptable place for troubeshooting assistance w/my fresh, non-working xubuntu install?
[02:13] <knome> cagey, sure.
[02:13] <knome> cagey, exactly what this channel is for.
[02:14] <cagey> Good!  I have Googled myself silly but I can't find the "switch" to fix my deal. :(
[02:15] <cagey> unfortunately, I'm not at the machine right now but I can still take notes...
[02:15] <knome> okay
[02:16] <cagey> so... fresh install of xubuntu 904 on an ancient (233MHz) box.  went through entire install and booted normally.  Upon reboot (the next day) it never loads the desktop.
[02:16] <knome> how much ram do you havE?
[02:17] <cagey> 256M-maxed
[02:17] <cagey> it loads a "background" of a single blue colour and the mouse pointer is present but no icons, no menus, no taskbar.  No ability to right -click.
[02:17] <knome> okay, that shouldn't be the problem
[02:17] <knome> did you try running the live cd?
[02:18] <cagey> yes.  Thats what I used to install
[02:18] <knome> it sounds like a problem with resources, but your machine should be able to take it.
[02:19] <cagey> in the system log, I see avahi-daemon doing something about every minute but that's it
[02:19] <cagey> but it booted fine the 1st time after install so that seem confusing to me
[02:19] <knome> oh, so you have had it running already
[02:20] <knome> our minimum requirements are actually a 333 mhz processor etc. etc., but as you have already logged in...
[02:20] <cagey> yeah, after the install, I rebooted as directed and it booted into the new OS.  I played around for a while and let it set for a bit.
[02:20] <knome> what did you do while the first login?
[02:21] <cagey> looked around.  prob played Solitaire.  Tried to minimise GUI action to save CPU "power". N ow when it boots, it appesrs to go through everything, splash, animated XFCE screen, etc but then settles to the non desktop w/pointer
[02:22] <knome> hmmh.
[02:22] <cagey> in fact, I had wondered about the XFCE screen as it was one of the few things I did.  although, I dont know if it's a background or an intermediate splash?
[02:23] <knome> the mouse with the light blue background?
[02:23] <cagey> I guess the XFCE w/animation is actually the splash?
[02:24] <knome> yes.
[02:24] <cagey> it look slike its "slamost there" but never gets past that solid screen w/pointer.  It must be a very simple thing ,despite my consternation on the matter! :)
[02:24] <knome> hmm.
[02:25] <knome> maybe try removing .cache
[02:25] <cagey> is it a file or dir.? is it in root?
[02:25] <knome> sorry, i mean ~/.cache, where ~ is your home directory
[02:25] <knome> /home/yourusername/.cache
[02:26] <cagey> can I just "rm" it?
[02:26] <knome> rmdir :)
[02:26] <knome> or ehm
[02:26] <knome> "rm -rf .cache" actually
[02:26] <cagey> ah!
[02:26] <knome> as the directory is not empty.
[02:27] <cagey> right.  I've seen that one before
[02:27] <cagey> do you think it's getting stuck on old info, stalled it?
[02:27] <cagey> stalling
[02:27] <knome> i don't know. it sounds weird.
[02:28] <knome> if it doesn't work, it's probably just your cpu not being powerful enough:/
[02:28] <cagey> the live CD goes to the screen for a little while, but progresses beyond it after 30 s or so
[02:28] <knome> right..
[02:28] <cagey> if CPU nogo, why would it tolerate the live CD?
[02:28] <knome> don't know.
[02:29] <knome> it could run once whilst installing, that is what makes it weird
[02:29] <cagey> I know it's running full-out just to run the GUI but I didnt know of a better distro to try
[02:30] <knome> yeah...
[02:30] <cagey> it runs DSL very well but it's pretty rough
[02:30] <knome> usually people are struggling with the amount of ram but your problem is a bit different
[02:30] <cagey> I know it prob wants 512 but...
[02:30] <knome> 256 is good for running it
[02:31] <knome> you can get it running even with 128, but it will be damn slow
[02:31] <cagey> anything you can think of is the rm cache doesnt fix me?
[02:31] <cagey> if the...
[02:31] <knome> hmm.
[02:31] <knome> i'm really out of ideas
[02:32] <knome> maybe come back later and ask if anybody else has ideas
[02:32] <cagey> if too slow, I would just think it;d be... well... too slow.  Not no load
[02:32] <knome> it's night in europe, so...
[02:32] <cagey> yeah.  at least I found this channel.  Live help beats endless searching...
[02:32] <cagey> thanks for the ideas!
[02:33] <knome> yeah, no problem
[04:20] <moonbeam_> hello, anyone here particularly familiar with xfwm4?  I'm seeing something a bit odd but I'm not sure if it's wnck issue or xfwm4 issue.  The code in question works fine with Metacity and Compiz though.
[04:21] <moonbeam_> I'm guessing this isn't the right channel.
[11:06] <zhxk`> hello, may i have two edition of xfce on same system, one is stadarded xfce desktop, another is simiplified xfce?
[11:07] <zhxk`> user can choose wich to login at gdm time?
[14:23] <Syrius> hello everybody there ?
[14:23] <Syrius> does any body use gryc ?
[14:40] <Syrius> if I check the update existing and make backups of existing that will update existing make backup first and also backup newly created files right ?
[16:23] <hezy> Hi, anyone knows how to disable the autosearch in synaptic?
[16:25] <hezy> I type one letter and it starts looking for matching programs before I get to the second letter, nad then I have to wait for a while. This is on my old computer (no problem with a new one)
[18:54] <BCM43> I try to install xubuntu on my aspire one via usb and I get the error "The attempt to mount a file system with type ext3 in scsi2 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) at "/" failed" I try to configure manualy with fdisk /dev/sda and I then try to save it and I get fdisk printout: “Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy”
[19:32] <pteague> is there some way to force a dhcp change to /etc/resolv.conf ?  i have xubuntu in a virtualbox instance & connected to the wireless at work at which point everything was set correctly... put the macbookpro to sleep, got home, woke it, & it won't change the resolv.conf ... i think i was able to get it to change the ip by restarting networking, but don't remember... finally just gave up & restarted the vm
[19:34] <Besogon> pteague: change that fily byyouself. This is not hard
[19:35] <pteague> yes, but i don't want to have to daily change it between work & home
[19:36] <Besogon> If you have NetowrkManager that should change resolf.conf automaticaly
[19:39] <pteague> unfortunately that doesn't seem to happen in NAT mode... if i set it up as bridged it does, but bridged has 2 issues... if the dhcp/network is stupid (like a hotel) it shows up as 2 different computers & if the mbp isn't connected to anything then it seems to report that there's no networking device... maybe i need to screw with this on the vbox end
[19:43] <Besogon> Ask on #ubuntu chanel pleace. I not well in English


[09:25] <saispo> hi
[09:25] <saispo> cjwatson: have you got two minutes for me ?
[11:22] <cjwatson> saispo: sure
[11:43] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r1822 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtkui.py): merge changes from train
[11:50] <saispo> cjwatson: how can i setup automique french keyboard at boot cd ?
[11:51] <saispo> cjwatson: i hack debian-cd for include universe and all work :)
[11:51] <cjwatson> saispo: what release?
[11:51] <cjwatson> excellent
[11:51] <saispo> edgy
[11:51] <cjwatson> saispo: boot with console-setup/layout=fr
[11:51] <saispo> yes
[11:51] <saispo> but when i type f6
[11:51] <saispo> i have an english keybord
[11:51] <cjwatson> er, sorry, that's not right
[11:51] <cjwatson> see
[11:52] <cjwatson> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html#preseed-l10n
[11:52] <cjwatson> oh, for the F6 bit, you can put 'fr' in /isolinux/lang
[11:53] <saispo> ok thks :)
[11:53] <saispo> now i play with logo :)
[11:53] <saispo> it's too long to mirror ubuntu...
[11:53] <cjwatson> you *might* find that /isolinux/lang will get passed through to the kernel as well, but I'm not sure if that worked properly in edgy
[11:54] <saispo> i think not :)
[11:54] <cjwatson> might do, actually
[11:54] <cjwatson> edgy didn't work for stuff like pt_BR but I think it worked for fr
[11:54] <cjwatson> unless you have specific information to the contrary
[11:54] <saispo> KBDMAP fr.kmp and this in isolinux.cfg ?
[11:55] <cjwatson> where did you get KBDMAP?
[11:55] <cjwatson> no
[11:55] <saispo> k
[11:55] <saispo> an example from  website
[11:55] <cjwatson> just 'fr' on its own without the quotes in /isolinux/lang like I said
[11:55] <cjwatson> don't get creative
[11:55] <cjwatson> what website where?
[11:55] <saispo> http://www.frogdev.info/gentoomove/index.php?lien_en_cours=gentoomove
[11:55] <saispo> in french excuse me
[11:55] <cjwatson> gentoo != ubuntu
[11:55] <saispo> yep
[11:56] <saispo> but use hacked ubuntu gfxboot and isolinux ?
[11:56] <cjwatson> ?
[11:56] <cjwatson> the KBDMAP directive is in standard syslinux, but it's a different kind of keymap and doesn't apply to gfxboot
[11:56] <cjwatson> gfxboot comes from SuSE
[11:57] <cjwatson> Ubuntu uses broadly the SuSE gfxboot patches to syslinux, with a few minor differences
[11:57] <saispo> k
[11:57] <cjwatson> however the Ubuntu gfxboot *theme* is very much different from anything else
[11:57] <cjwatson> and in this context the theme is not just the logo and stuff
[11:57] <saispo> for putting 'fr' in isolinux/lang, i must modify boot-i386 ?
[11:57] <cjwatson> the theme also implements command-line option handling, gfxboot language and keyboard handling, extra arguments in isolinux.cfg, all kinds of weird stuff
[11:58] <cjwatson> yes
[11:58] <saispo> ok :)
[11:58] <saispo> i will try
[11:58] <saispo> i see the end of the tunnel :)
[12:03] <saispo> after all cosmetics, i will try kickseed for detecting first hard drive for automatic partition
[12:08] <saispo> cjwatson: yes ! the hack for french keyboard work fine :)
[12:13] <cjwatson> great
[12:14] <saispo> just a problem with the logo :)
[12:15] <saispo> i convert my png but not working
[12:15] <saispo> a size is required ?
[12:21] <cjwatson> don't recall right now, but probably, just make it the same size and colour depth as the Ubuntu one
[12:24] <saispo> k
[12:56] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r1823 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog ubiquity.install-any): * Really install the apport hook.
[02:12] <cr3> can casper be mounted over nfs? the problem I'm encountering is that in casper-bottom, mountpoints are being setup way before networking
[02:30] <cjwatson> cr3: you want Mithrandir for that
[02:33] <cr3> cjwatson: cheers, I'll talk to the robot princess :)
[03:05] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r1824 ubiquity/ (configure configure.ac): bump to 1.3.15
[03:08] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r1825 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity debian/changelog):
[03:08] <CIA-4> ubiquity: * Switch the new partitioner on by default. As above, use 'ubiquity
[03:08] <CIA-4> ubiquity:  --old-partitioner' to disable it.
[03:09] <evand> hooray!  No more old partitioner.
 clunkier than the old one by the time we release?
[03:11] <evand> cjwatson: I have not given up on investigating that error, but I am currently more focused on adding needed functionality to m-a to meet the FeatureFreeze deadline.  If you think this is a bad approach, just let me know.
 I don't think it's possible to be clunkier than the old one for very long
[03:11] <evand> hahaha
[03:11] <cjwatson> absolutely target FF
[03:11] <cjwatson> is there anything you're blocked on me for? Oslo wiped me out as far as keeping up was concerned
[03:12] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r1826 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.3.15
[03:13] <evand> I don't believe so, if I understand what you're asking.  The Ubiquity code is ready to go in except for that exception that crashes Ubiquity when m-a is run with the old partitioner.  Updated copies of ma-ask and ma-apply will be needed for it to work though.
[03:14] <evand> And as I mentioned above, I'm trying to add as much functionality to m-a itself as possible and get a new release out before FF.
[03:14] <cjwatson> let me know when you need uploads
[03:14] <evand> cjwatson: will do, thanks
[03:22] <evand> oh, I should note that I haven't done any work on the kdeui end.  I'm not sure if I'll have time for that as it also requires a lot of work in m-a, but I'll try after everything else is done.
[03:48] <cjwatson> it's not a blocker
[03:49] <cjwatson> in extremis, m-a for just gtk is better than m-a for nothing
[03:50] <evand> indeed


[15:01]  * slangasek waves
[15:01] <sil2100> o/
[15:01] <Odd_Bloke> o/
[15:02] <chiluk> o/
[15:02] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jul 27 15:02:02 2017 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:02] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[15:02] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[15:02] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e doko bdmurray slangasek infinity sil2100 cyphermox tdaitx xnox mwhudson rbalint rcj philroche Odd_Bloke Tribaal fginther)
[15:02] <slangasek> Tribaal infinity xnox cyphermox rbalint tdaitx doko slangasek sil2100 Odd_Bloke philroche rcj mwhudson fginther bdmurray
[15:03]  * Tribaal is on holiday today so nothing to report.
[15:03] <slangasek> I believe Tribaal is out
[15:03] <slangasek> heh
[15:03] <Tribaal> Indeed :)
[15:03] <slangasek> and infinity is not on channel
[15:03] <slangasek> xnox:
[15:03] <xnox> 16.04.3 SRUs; util-linux upgrade; systemd-upgrade; s390x fixes; python transition; wsl fixups. Done
[15:03] <xnox> #HIGHLIGHT python3.6 migrated
[15:04] <gaughen> woo hoo! definitely a highlight
[15:04] <xnox> well, mostly mwhudson achievement.
[15:05] <gaughen> mwhudson, that woo hoo was for you
[15:05] <tdaitx> hmm, my znc is misbehaving, I have no previous log =/
[15:06] <tdaitx> plz tell me when I should paste my status
[15:06] <cyphermox> not yet
[15:06] <cyphermox> xnox: are you done?
[15:06] <fginther> rcj, we do have a zesty 20170727 daily in azure
[15:06] <xnox> yes.
[15:06] <bdmurray> tdaitx: after cyphermox
[15:06] <cyphermox> alrighty then
[15:06] <cyphermox> - ubiquity-slideshow updates
[15:06] <cyphermox> - SRU verifications for shim (chainloading)
[15:06] <cyphermox> - preparing upload for grub2/-signed SRU of bug 1696599 to trusty
[15:06] <cyphermox> - shim module self-signing:
[15:06] <cyphermox>   - dkms update to use kmodsign; enroll key
[15:06] <cyphermox>   - shim -> migrate to re-enable validation; update triggers for self-signing
[15:06] <cyphermox>   - testing, testing, testing
[15:06] <cyphermox> (not yet a highlight, but when it gets uploaded, yes)
[15:06] <cyphermox> - some shim/Secure Boot discussions with upstream, code review
[15:06] <cyphermox> - answered IRC questions about packaging/networking/dhcpcd from slash_d and t_simonq2
[15:06] <cyphermox> (done)
[15:07] <tdaitx> bdmurray, thanks
[15:07] <tdaitx> > [HIGHLIGHT] OpenJDK 8 has been released with 8u141 security patches
[15:07] <tdaitx> * included new mbind patch to openjdk 8 update, packaged, tested, uploaded to the security team (LP: #1705763)
[15:07] <tdaitx> * verified openjdk-9 doclint issue (Debian #866908)
[15:07] <tdaitx> - various packages FTBFS due to the strict HTML4 rules
[15:07] <tdaitx> - HTML5 as default does not help, packages are indeed using invalid javadoc
[15:07] <tdaitx> - works when doclint is disabled by a patch
[15:07] <tdaitx> * moving on to the last security patch that requires backport in openjdk-7
[15:07] <gaughen> cyphermox, is it worth including in the dev summary as something that's coming?
[15:07] <tdaitx> AOB:
[15:07] <tdaitx> - Oracle missed CVE-2017-10243/S8182054 in the Risk Matrix
[15:07] <tdaitx> (done)
[15:07] <cyphermox> gaughen: possibly.
[15:07] <slangasek> we also have rbalint's status, sent by email:
[15:07] <slangasek> * finish unattended-updates update round LP: #1690980 et al.
[15:07] <slangasek> * forward Ubuntu delta to Debian BTS: #763856 #869367
[15:07] <slangasek> * sync request LP: #1706946
[15:07] <slangasek> * preparations for the libevent transition
[15:07] <slangasek>   - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=libevent-20170726&users=rbalint%40ubuntu.com;dist=unstable
[15:07] <slangasek>   - https://launchpad.net/~rbalint/+archive/ubuntu/libevent-2.1/+packages
[15:07] <slangasek> (highlight "Major for unattended-updates to fix reliability issues")
[15:07] <slangasek> (done)
[15:07] <sil2100> Oh, me?
[15:07] <sil2100> - Last week: Warsaw Sprint
[15:07] <sil2100> - Kernel and regular SRU reviews
[15:07] <sil2100>   * xenial queue as priority for incoming point-release
[15:07] <sil2100> - ubuntu-image:
[15:07] <sil2100>   * Preparing change for skipping snap.sh in proposed migration
[15:08] <slangasek> no
[15:08] <sil2100>   * Re-released 1.1, made sure it migrates this time, pushed SRUs
[15:08] <gaughen> slangasek, anything to highlight in balint's status?
[15:08] <sil2100>   * Touched base with Gary Wang on his help with ubuntu-image for classic, assigned work, sync-calls
[15:08] <sil2100>   * Removed yakkety from CI and release scripts
[15:08] <sil2100> - KPIs:
[15:08] <sil2100>   * Looked into proper ways to get good metrics on uploaders, blocked on LP and permissions
[15:08] <sil2100>   * Prepared metrics for some approximate uploader-count statistics (now merged)
[15:08] <slangasek> gaughen: the thing that he wrote highlight on :)
[15:08] <sil2100>   * Prepared some metrics for SRU-related stuff (pull request submitted, actually I duped Brian's work!)
[15:08] <sil2100> - Released new google SDK packages to partner, waiting on reviews
[15:08] <sil2100> - Help in getting an MRE formalized for the OpenStack bits
[15:08] <sil2100> (done)
[15:08] <gaughen> oooh there it is
[15:08]  * gaughen hangs head in shame
[15:08] <slangasek>  * Product Roadmap sprint last week; travel swap on Monday
[15:08] <slangasek>  * discussions on design of livepatch integration into desktop UX and motd
[15:08] <slangasek>  * planning around SecureBoot on POWER (LP: #1696154)
[15:08] <slangasek>  * tracking of various IBM ppc64el bugs
[15:08] <slangasek>  * capturing more data about proposed-migration for purposes of tracking queue size https://code.launchpad.net/~vorlon/britney/britney1-more-stats
[15:08] <slangasek>  * working the proposed-migration queue, with miscellaneous library transitions and fixing of stuck packages
[15:08] <slangasek> (done)
[15:08] <cyphermox> ohh, SB on POWER?
[15:08] <slangasek> Odd_Bloke:
[15:08] <Odd_Bloke> - Warsaw sprint
[15:09] <Odd_Bloke> - refactoring of cloud image publication code
[15:09] <Odd_Bloke> - a variety of KPI work
[15:09] <Odd_Bloke> (done)
[15:09] <slangasek> cyphermox: yes, but there's no shim so there's nothing interesting to do ;)
[15:09] <cyphermox> well.
[15:09] <slangasek> philroche:
[15:09] <philroche> - build system maintenance
[15:09] <philroche> - automated promotion for new build system
[15:09] <cyphermox> there is a new grub artefact to generate
[15:09] <gaughen> cyphermox, slangasek says there's really no work for our team on SB for Power
[15:09] <gaughen> that it's just coordination
[15:09] <philroche> (done)
[15:09] <slangasek> cyphermox: no there isn't
[15:09] <cyphermox> ah
[15:09] <cyphermox> heh
[15:10] <slangasek> rcj:
[15:10] <rcj> * tending fires, squashing bugs
[15:10] <gaughen> * writing status
[15:10] <rcj> * fixed livecd-rootfs artful builds
[15:11] <rcj> (done)
[15:11] <gaughen> * did some manifest stuff
[15:11] <slangasek> fginther:
[15:11] <fginther> * Short week (3 days) due to holidays
[15:11] <fginther> * Design doc to provide automatic image delivery for a specific cloud
[15:11] <fginther> * Backporting automated image publication workflow improvements to older releases
[15:11] <cyphermox> "<someone> * did stuff."
[15:12] <fginther> * HIGHLIGHT EOL yakkety images
[15:12] <gaughen> * EOL is super done now.
[15:12] <fginther> done
[15:13] <bdmurray> resolved apport autopkgtest failures in artful
[15:13] <bdmurray> merged apport artful changes into upstream branch
[15:13] <bdmurray> irc discussion regarding whoopsie and network-manager and systemd
[15:13] <bdmurray> fixed ubuntu-manual-tests to accuractely reflect the steps needed
[15:13] <bdmurray> reviewed & uploaded rcj's fix for livecd-rootfs bug LP: #1706116
[15:13] <bdmurray> reported apt-file bug LP: #1706163 (dialog w/ broken run button)
[15:13] <bdmurray> reported update-notifier bug LP: #1706168 (don't show dialog)
[15:13] <bdmurray> tested balint's PPA for unattended-upgrades LP: #1690980
[15:13] <bdmurray> reported whoopsie bug LP: #1706195 regarding starting before n-m
[15:13] <bdmurray> fixed ISO tracker mention of upgrade from Trusty to Artful
[15:13] <bdmurray> discovered breakage in tool that updates test cases in the ISO tracker, emailed ubuntu-qa about it
[15:13] <bdmurray> uploaded TXZ SRUs for LP: #1607929, added a test case to it too
[15:13] <bdmurray> uploaded Artful fix, XZ SRUs for whoopsie bug LP: #1706195
[15:13] <bdmurray> added a test case to whoopsie bug LP: #1706195
[15:13] <bdmurray> review of sil2100's uploader counter KPI PR
[15:13] <bdmurray> setup and documented local juju prometheus push gateway
[15:13] <bdmurray> replied to robie's email regarding exceptional MREs
[15:13] <bdmurray> email to ubuntu-quality regarding the QA tracker
[15:13] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:13] <bdmurray> submitted pull requests regarding issues with metrics
[15:14] <Odd_Bloke> * -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-----
[15:16] <slangasek> any questions over status?
[15:17] <bdmurray> nope
[15:18] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bug queue
[15:18] <slangasek> [LINK] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-aa-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[15:18] <bdmurray> So bug 1647638 I think we can take that off of incoming
[15:19] <slangasek> wfm
[15:19] <bdmurray> I ran into bug 1706168 this week and wanted to talk about it
[15:20] <xnox> also i planned to tag rls-aa-incomming https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nplan/+bug/1706869 but i have misspelled the tag
[15:21] <slangasek> bdmurray: I saw that bug report when you filed it, it seemed a straightforward improvement
[15:22] <bdmurray> slangasek: is it worth targetting for this release though? How many things use update-notifier hooks?
[15:22] <slangasek> I am unsure
[15:23] <slangasek> only a handful
[15:23] <xnox> msftcorefonts installer thing?
[15:23]  * xnox ponders that msftcorefonts should be a snap
[15:23] <slangasek> $ ls -l /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/firefox-restart-required
[15:23] <slangasek> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 444 Mar 24  2011 /var/lib/update-notifier/user.d/firefox-restart-required
[15:23] <slangasek> I seem to have some old stuff there
[15:25] <slangasek> bdmurray: I think the impact is probably not high enough to target for this cycle
[15:25] <slangasek> at least as I understand the impact
[15:25] <bdmurray> slangasek: The result kind of sucks, but I don't think many people will hit it.
[15:26] <bdmurray> slangasek: Also apt-file really should be fixed to clean up the hook.
[15:26] <slangasek> yes, agreed
[15:26] <bdmurray> I'll remove the tag from the update-notifier bug.
[15:29] <slangasek> bug #1706869, cyphermox will take a look
[15:29] <cyphermox> gaughen: need card for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nplan/+bug/1706869
[15:32] <slangasek> removed tag from LP: #1553592
[15:33] <slangasek> bug #1669564
[15:34] <slangasek> bdmurray: you marked this one rls-z-incoming
[15:40] <slangasek> taking
[15:40] <slangasek> LP: #1681528
[15:41] <slangasek> bdmurray: importance: high?
[15:41] <slangasek> (set)
[15:41] <bdmurray> slangasek: Yeah, I think we get enough bugs where people have some goofy python stuff going on that it should be.
[15:42] <slangasek> LP: #1689668
[15:42] <slangasek> ugh that's horrible
[15:42] <slangasek> taking this one
[15:43] <slangasek> LP: #1696981
[15:44] <slangasek> I'm not sure this is currently high priority for 17.10, but there's a patch
[15:45] <rcj> There's a patch that looks decent.
[15:45] <bdmurray> So somebody should just do it?
[15:45] <slangasek> yeah
[15:46] <rcj> Not sure about defaulting to 2017-06-09 (or something) as the date if it can't figure anything out.  Epoch 0 is a better flag to say clock-is-wrong
[15:46] <bdmurray> Not it
[15:46] <slangasek> I don't think it needs to be in our committed queue however, I think it should be sponsorship queue
[15:46] <slangasek> (untagged)
[15:46] <slangasek> LP: #1690125
[15:46] <bdmurray> Have you seen the sponsorship queue?
[15:46] <slangasek> yes
[15:47] <xnox> slangasek, i thought the hybrid stuff was fixed.
[15:47] <xnox> as in i blacklisted the test =)
[15:48] <Odd_Bloke> Why does the rls-aa-notfixing page not have counts in the header for each team like the other pages do?
[15:49] <bdmurray> Why do you care?
[15:49] <slangasek> counts of things we've declined seem less interesting
[15:49] <Odd_Bloke> bdmurray: I'm idly writing a KPI script. :p
[15:50] <bdmurray> Odd_Bloke: they should be tagged rls-z-notfixingeverver
[15:50] <bdmurray> Odd_Bloke: so searchTasks with tag and package_subscriber(?)=foundations-bugs
[15:50] <slangasek> 1690125 declined, xnox to follow up with lxc upstream
[15:51] <slangasek> LP: #1665701
[15:51] <bdmurray> structural_subscriber
[15:52] <slangasek> looks to me like this was fixed in curtin and the btrfs part is not-a-bug
[15:53] <bdmurray> bug 1685484
[15:53] <slangasek> LP: #1685484
[15:55] <slangasek> taking (medium)
[15:55] <slangasek> LP: #1692870
[15:57] <slangasek> postponing
[15:57] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:57] <slangasek> anything else?
[16:02] <slangasek> seems not
[16:02] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[16:02] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jul 27 16:02:36 2017 UTC.
[16:02] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-07-27-15.02.moin.txt
[16:02] <sil2100> o/
[16:02] <slangasek> thanks, all!
[16:02] <sil2100> Thanks!