[18:29] <bytecolor> If I disable gdm, then run startx from the cl to load icewm, there are hotkeys active (Ctrl+Alt+t to start a term, for instance). icewm is NOT setting them. So where are they comming from?
[18:29] <n8ature> soundray: yes, im creating a base image that will be used for xen guest.. the first time the guest is run, i would like it to install a few more things.. but i dont want that script to run on every boot.. just the first boot.. so i could have it remove itself
[18:29] <fen_> [KS]`: whats the model again? pavillion 9000 something?
[18:29] <drcheezenstein> man ubuntu needs to update its network manager already
[18:30] <[KS]`> fen_: HDX9000
[18:30] <drcheezenstein> I never had any of these problems on 7.10
[18:30] <soundray> [KS]`: have you searched the web for that dmesg string? It strikes me as something that other people should have written about...
[18:30] <yme> aegzorz, it's downloading a lot of stuff. I believe I didn't have any desktop package on my PC right?
[18:30] <veeturi> steve-cal: how do i post the output....its more than 10 lines?
[18:30] <[KS]`> soundray: it says that it's hw switch, obviously
[18:30] <soundray> [KS]`: also, you might find installation reports on your laptop model on http://www.tuxmobil.org
[18:30] <[KS]`> even google says that
[18:30] <Steve-Cal> veeturi: Just paste it at paste.ubuntu.com :)
[18:30] <YoG> Steve-Cal: here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16020/
[18:31] <aegzorz> yme: yeah if it needs to install alot of packages it sounds like there was no desktop environment installed
[18:31] <soundray> [KS]`: no solutions?
[18:31] <soundray> n8ature: sounds reasonable -- remove or, perhaps, rename
[18:31] <yme> aegzorz, thanks, you saved the day!!
[18:31] <[KS]`> soundray: only one, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-616556.html
[18:31] <[KS]`> but I did not understand it completely
[18:31] <aegzorz> yme: no problem, glad to help
[18:32] <veeturi> steve-cal: this is the link i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/16021/
[18:32] <[KS]`> the cat... thing
[18:32] <YoG> Steve-Cal: now at least i can see that it resumes (line 209:  /etc/acpi/resume.sh)
[18:32] <joshual> sevenseeker: i dont understand how to add things to the side pane
[18:32] <soundray> [KS]`: do you have a directory /sys/bus/pci/drivers/iwl4965/ ?
[18:33] <[KS]`> yes
[18:33] <sevenseeker> joshual: it was my understanding that each of the components have their own package that auto configures to be included... I may be wrong though
[18:33] <[KS]`> and it's ont 0000:02:00.0
[18:33] <soundray> [KS]`: how many entries in there?
[18:33] <[KS]`> it's 0000:10:00.0
[18:33] <LetterRip> anyone know if freenode is down?
[18:33] <Starnestommy> LetterRip: it's up
[18:33] <icqnumber> LetterRip: ????
[18:33] <soundray> [KS]`: what's in the directory /sys/bus/pci/drivers/iwl4965/ ?
[18:34] <LetterRip> hrmm i tried connecting to freenode to join #blendercoders and it never connected
[18:34] <joshual> anyone else use USP?
[18:34] <johnsoper>  /msg ubottu etiquette
[18:34] <Ebele> hi folks; can I get some help with flash, ie playing youtubes
[18:34] <[KS]`> soundray: I'll tell you in a minute ,just to boot up the laptop
[18:34] <LetterRip> hmm ok this must be a different node perhaps
[18:34] <soundray> johnsoper: try nubotu
[18:34] <veeturi> steve-cal: i have seen that the wireless card is the 94311 series card!!
[18:34] <slashdot_> who in here is on-point with CPU scaling!?  i need some serious help.  processor is draining the mess out of my batteries!
[18:34] <ue> good day all, i have installed hardy 8.0.4 and i have problems with my usb mouse it lag/spikes ... but my ps/2 works like a charm, btw the usb mouse worked with out any probs on gusty
[18:34] <YoG> Steve-Cal: maybe I'll try adding "nvidia" to the black list?
[18:34] <Starnestommy> LetterRip: there was a problem with a couple servers in freenode
[18:35] <LetterRip> Starnestommy, ok thanks
[18:35] <LetterRip> bye all
[18:35] <drcheezenstein> man
[18:35] <drcheezenstein> can someone please help me with my wireless problem?
[18:36] <fen_> [KS]`: by the sounds of it the switch is operated via a a file in that directory soundray just told you, if you can get that part working, then you can use key touch to try to get the strip working
[18:36] <Steve-Cal> veeturi, YoG: I got disconnected--did you guys post any results?
[18:36] <fen_> drcheezenstein: whats the issue
[18:36] <veeturi> steve-cal: nope man...i didnt post any but i pasted the http://paste.ubuntu.com/16021/
[18:37] <Tonydude> can someone chat with me and help me set up my wireless card, i have a toshiba a205-s5814 with an internal realtek 802.11b/g card but it shows up as a usb device. someone help?
[18:37] <drcheezenstein> fen_: Everything is installed right, and im right next to the wireless router, that everything else works off of, but it wont connect at all on ubuntu 8.04
[18:37] <[KS]`> soundray: in /sys/bus/pci/drivers/iwl4965 there is: 0000:10:00.0, bind, module, new_id, uevent, unbind
[18:37] <YoG> Steve-Cal: here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16020/
[18:37] <fen_> drcheezenstein: what is the wireless card model in your pc/laptop?
[18:38] <soundray> [KS]`: is any of those a directory? Check with ls -l and look for lines beginning with d
[18:38] <Steve-Cal> veeturi: OK your wireless chipset is actually "BCM4311"...
[18:39] <[KS]`> soundray, 0000:10:00.0 and module
[18:39] <mohkohn> I am having a mozilla firefox problem. what is the best channel for info?
[18:39] <soundray> [KS]`: does /sys/bus/pci/drivers/iwl4965/0000:10:00.0/ contain rf_kill ?
[18:39] <fen_> drcheezenstein: if you're not certain open a terminal and type lspci -v
[18:39] <[KS]`> soundray, no
[18:39] <drcheezenstein> ok hold on
[18:40] <YoG> Steve-Cal: I now remember why I used "mem" instead of "standby" - because with "standby" the computer does not shut down completely, the fans continue to rotate...
[18:40] <fen_> drcheezenstein: you'll need to use pastebin to communicate that to me though
[18:40] <soundray> [KS]`: the module one?
[18:40] <veeturi> steve-cal: yes buddy ....this chipset but how do i install the wifi drivers for this ???
[18:40] <[KS]`> soundray, no
[18:40] <drcheezenstein> ok hold on whats the link to pastebin?
[18:40] <gregbrady> I just tried a reboot and it took over 11 minutes to boot up!  And the system is just crawling.  Even this chat window cannot keep up with my typing and it's the only thing running.
[18:40] <fen_> !pastebin drcheezenstein
[18:41] <mohkohn> And by the way thatnks to stroyan I am back on ubuntu now with Firefox 2
[18:41] <szgal> Does anyone know how I can tell which window composing manager/decorator is currently loaded and being used?
[18:41] <fen_> whats the precreated pastebin command here?
[18:41] <fen_> !paste
[18:41] <Steve-Cal> YoG: I don't know offhand--that's alot of output to sort through. ;) Have you by chance tried "uswsusp"? That might work better for you.
[18:41] <fen_> i think its pastebin.ubuntu.com
[18:41] <mohkohn> http://paste.ubuntu.com |
[18:41] <soundray> [KS]`: any output from 'sudo find /sys/bus/pci/drivers/iwl4965 -name rf\* '?
[18:41] <Jessica_lilly> !paste
[18:41] <drcheezenstein> hold on
[18:41] <Tonydude> can someone chat with me and help me set up my wireless card, i have a toshiba a205-s5814 with an internal realtek 802.11b/g card but it shows up as a usb device. someone help?
[18:41] <drcheezenstein> i found it
[18:41] <Jessica_lilly> agh it dosnt work
[18:42] <Steve-Cal> veeturi: Hang on, please be patient...
[18:42] <fen_> thank mohkohn
[18:42] <[KS]`> soundray, none
[18:42] <drcheezenstein> fen_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/16026/
[18:43] <chrysaor> hello
[18:43] <szgal> Does anyone know how I can tell which window composing manager/decorator is currently loaded and being used?
[18:43] <mohkohn> It is in the message of the day at the top of the page for future reference.
[18:43] <LimCore> szgal: I gunno, but this indeed would be usable thing to kno
[18:43] <LimCore> know
[18:43] <fen_> drcheezenstein: you hav a broadcom bcm4306
[18:43] <soundray> [KS]`: sorry, I have to give up. Do head over to tuxmobil.org , though, like I said earlier, there are bound to be people  who have solved this problem on your very model
[18:43] <Jessica_lilly> i have a wireless adapter which needs the rt73 driver it works when running on the live cd, when i run it on my installed system it just keeps asking for the password over and over and wont see any network
[18:44] <drcheezenstein> i guess so fen-
[18:44] <[KS]`> soundray, I've been there, there is no my model :(
[18:44] <drcheezenstein> fen_
[18:44] <gregbrady> My cpu is at 100% all the time....
[18:44] <Steve-Cal> veeturi: It looks like that bcm43xx-fwcutter software supports your chipset. Just download that package via Synaptic and use it to install your driver.
[18:44] <drcheezenstein> So whats the problem?
[18:44] <YoG> Steve-Cal: it did with gutsy out of the box, but not in hardy :-(
[18:44] <szgal> LimCore, yes it would be extremely useful thing for me to know. My Google searches are coming up dry.
[18:44] <Tonydude> can someone chat with me and help me set up my wireless card, i have a toshiba a205-s5814 with an internal realtek 802.11b/g card but it shows up as a usb device. someone help?
[18:44] <mohkohn> I think my error has come about because  I uninstalled Firefox 3 and Firefox2 and have now reinstalled Firfox 2.
[18:44] <soundray> [KS]`: did you get the latest driver with usser's help?
[18:44] <fen_> drcheezenstein: it needs proprietary firmware i think, but im checking hang on
[18:45] <[KS]`> soundray, yes, last night
[18:45] <Steve-Cal> YoG: I know exactly how you feel--isn't it frustrating? I got my suspend working with lots of fenagling in Gutsy, but then it broke in Hardy. So I had to troubleshoot all over again. ;)
[18:45] <redfro> Hi guys
[18:45] <soundray> [KS]`: have you checked the BIOS setup for an enabling switch?
[18:45] <mohkohn> I get an Error: installLocation has no properties Source File: file:///usr/lib/firefox/components/nsExtensionManager.js Line: 3938
[18:45] <drcheezenstein> well I installed the stuff from the restricted drivers menu, or whatever it is called now
[18:45] <Tonydude> can someone chat with me and help me set up my wireless card, i have a toshiba a205-s5814 with an internal realtek 802.11b/g card but it shows up as a usb device. someone help?
[18:45] <mohkohn> Full error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16027/
[18:46] <drcheezenstein> broadcom b43 wireless driver and the firmware
[18:46] <redfro> does anyone could help me to fix the sound on my eeexubuntu installation?
[18:46] <MrObvious> drcheezenstein: Which BCM chipset?
[18:46] <n8ature> any way to flag apt-get to not auto start a program it is installing?
[18:46] <[KS]`> soundray, yes, no option
[18:46] <veeturi> steve-cal: no problem buddy ....take ur own time....i have install the bcmxx fwcutter package from synaptic  now whats next ???
[18:46] <redfro> I'm running it on eeepc 900
[18:46] <fen_> drcheezenstein: in the terminal type ifconfig -a and pastebin it
[18:46] <mohkohn> I am trying to install this addon for firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/115
[18:47] <Steve-Cal> Tonydude: First you need to determine the chipset your wifi card uses--run "sudo lshw -C network" in a terminal.
[18:47] <fen_> drcheezenstein: oh and 'lsmod' too
[18:47] <mohkohn> So the question is can I fix it so I can install ReloadEvery in Firefox 2 on Ubuntu Hardy.
[18:47] <Ebele> mohkohn; what's problem?
[18:47] <mohkohn> ?
[18:47] <drcheezenstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16029/
[18:48] <drcheezenstein> heres the ifconfig -a
[18:48] <Tonydude> steve-call: it just comes up as my fast ethernet controller
[18:48] <soundray> [KS]`: sorry. I think the best hope is to wait for a new driver version
[18:48] <mohkohn> Ebele, I have just been posting the problem
[18:48] <mohkohn> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16027/
[18:48] <MrObvious> drcheezenstein: Which BCM chipset exactly?
[18:48] <Leefmc> Question: How do i eject a USB Device, and how do i "know" it is ejected, so i can be sure of a safe removal?
[18:48] <fen_> drcheezenstein: ok your wifi card is installed and is recognised by linux
[18:48] <drcheezenstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16030/\
[18:49] <drcheezenstein> theres the lsmod
[18:49] <fen_> as for the connection issue
[18:49] <MrObvious> Leefmc: I just right click the icon on the desktop and push unmount or whatever. Or you can always do it in a terminal sudo umount /media/mountpoint
[18:49] <MFietje> mohkohn: which version of ff are you using?
[18:49] <mohkohn> Ebele,  Error: installLocation has no properties Source File: file:///usr/lib/firefox/components/nsExtensionManager.js Line: 3938
[18:49] <mohkohn> MFietje, Firefox 2
[18:49] <MFietje> mohkohn: this add on is not compatible for the latest FF3 version
[18:49] <drcheezenstein> Mrobvious  broadcom bcm4306
[18:49] <mohkohn> I got rid of 3
[18:49] <MFietje> mohkohn: i see
[18:50] <[KS]`> soundray, I got it!
[18:50] <MFietje> mohkohn: i use FF 3 RC1
[18:50] <drcheezenstein> so fen_ what is the problem then?
[18:50] <soundray> [KS]`: what?!
[18:50] <MrObvious> drcheezenstein: Ahh I have no experience but I've found ndiswrapper superior to b43 with my chipset. (94311)
[18:50] <gregbrady> Ok, no worries, I will just reinstall Ubuntu yet again.
[18:50] <[KS]`> soundray, now that you mentioned BIOS, I remembered that I read somewhere, that Restoring bios defaults should help. And it did. Even my bluetooth is working now!
[18:50] <Steve-Cal> veeturi: I'm no expert with the fwcutter software since I used ndiswrapper for my wireless, but I think all you may need to do is "sudo modprobe bcm43xx".
[18:50] <[KS]`> Thanks everyone for your patienc e:)
[18:50] <mohkohn> I had both on. It worked in two. the next time I rebooted Firefox 3 hijacked Firefox 2 despite both being in the menu.
[18:50] <Leefmc> MrObvious: Ah thank you! I was having trouble because unmounting in the browser would still leave the icon there.. i could see no way to tell if it was in or out. This works, thank you!
[18:50] <drcheezenstein> how do I use ndiswrapper?
[18:50] <YoG> Steve-Cal: It is fraustrating... I have to go now, maybe I'll catch you around another day and you'll help me troubleshooting the problem... anyway thanx alot
[18:50] <MrObvious> Leefmc: You're welcome.
[18:51] <mohkohn> So I got rid of both. Reinstalled two and I am getting this error
[18:51]  * MrObvious yawns
[18:51] <drcheezenstein> mrobvious
[18:51] <soundray> !yay | [KS]`
[18:51] <mohkohn> I really need thsi addon
[18:51] <fen_> drcheezenstein: your card is working, ndiswrapper wont change that
[18:51] <Steve-Cal> Tonydude: Did I miss something? Is is USB? If so try "lsusb -v"
[18:51] <drcheezenstein> fen_ I know its working but it wont connect to my router
[18:51] <bazhang> no bot soundray :)
[18:51] <Tonydude> it comes up as a usb
[18:51] <fen_> drcheezenstein: so lets loot at that one
[18:51] <soundray> [KS]`: no bot. Anyway -- well done
[18:51] <MrObvious> drcheezenstein: Well try b43 first. I would have to do some searching to find the howto.
[18:51] <drcheezenstein> Fen_ but everything else in the house does, it used to connect under 8.04
[18:51] <Steve-Cal> YoG: No problem--take care. :)
[18:51] <[KS]`> soundray, I would never manage it without you guys. Thanks :)
[18:51] <drcheezenstein> I mean
[18:51] <drcheezenstein> 7.10
[18:51] <mohkohn> The ISP here in Cambodia cuts your internet off when you are not websurfing.
[18:52] <drcheezenstein> the last version of ubuntu everything worked
[18:52] <fen_> drcheezenstein: in the terminal type iwlist scanning
[18:52] <soundray> bazhang: it's 'no bot :(', not 'no bot :)' ;)
[18:52] <Tonydude> steve-cal: it comes up under the first thing under usb
[18:52] <MFietje> mohkohn: really? that's odd
[18:52] <Ebele> mohkohn: did you google the error; found something there
[18:52] <ross> test
[18:53] <Steve-Cal> tonydude: OK, so what's the chipset? If you're not sure just post the whole output to paste.ubuntu.com so I can see it.
[18:53] <drcheezenstein> fen_ this confuses me because network manager picks it up but look at this
[18:53] <drcheezenstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16036/
[18:53] <mohkohn> Ebele, I usually goodle. I must be a bit affected by red wine.
[18:53] <mohkohn> google
[18:53] <ross> i am not seeing the users list to the right, can anyone please tell me how to view the users in this room?
[18:53] <minerale> I have a user, and I have a group, how can I associate the user to be part of the group ?
[18:54] <drcheezenstein> you get that fen_
[18:54] <aarrghhh> whoo-hoo-hoooo! seems like i'm in to ubuntu!!!
[18:54] <soundray> minerale: 'sudo adduser username groupname'
[18:54] <Steve-Cal> ross: that entirely depends on your IRC software.... :)
[18:54] <veeturi> steve-cal: there is no output for the command for modprobe bcm43xx
[18:54] <ross> brb
[18:54] <minerale> soundray: I have an existing user, not a new
[18:54] <soundray> veeturi: that's generally a good sign
[18:54] <soundray> minerale: same thing
[18:54] <Tonydude> steve-cal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16037/
[18:55] <Steve-Cal> veeturi: OK, do "lsmod | grep bcm" and see if it out\puts that module...
[18:55] <soundray> minerale: man adduser if you don't believe me
[18:55] <drcheezenstein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16036/ fen_
[18:55] <fen_> drcheezenstein: yeah i saw it
[18:55] <soundray> minerale: or go through System-Administration-Users and groups
[18:55] <fen_> drcheezenstein: one sec
[18:55] <drcheezenstein> any ideas fen_
[18:55] <drcheezenstein> oh ok
[18:55] <scotiobade2> Hi i just got an archos it has a usb mass storage i am using ubuntu hardy heron on gnome does anyone know how i can get it to work with the mp3 players such as rythmbox or amarok?
[18:56] <aarrghhh> hello my dear misters and mistress! may anon tell me how to query a user? (while not knowing what server he's joining temporarily?
[18:56] <scotiobade2> so can anyone help me?
[18:57] <soundray> scotiobade2: you need to bring a bit of patience
[18:57] <MrObvious> drcheezenstein: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff?highlight=(WifiDocs)|(AND)|(ManufacturerModel) Try letting fen_ help you first but this might help you if not already. It's what I did to get wi-fi working at least somewhat. :\
[18:57] <scotiobade2> No problem.
[18:57] <MrObvious> drcheezenstein: But let fen_ help you first.
[18:57] <etronik> scotiobade2: sorry, not me, I'm struggling with my upgrade from Dapper to heron
[18:57] <mohkohn> Looks like lots of people have the same probelm as me with the plugins
[18:57] <drcheezenstein> i gotchu why does ubuntu have to make upgrading a bitch/
[18:58] <MrObvious> drcheezenstein: I don't know. :\
[18:58] <JonDeere> I need help getting my Ubuntu's Nvidia driver out of 640X480 mode. The docs say the X config file needs this option put in: Option "UseEDID" "FALSE", but I can't successfully save the file?
[18:58] <etronik> eeeck! kernel panic upon reboot
[18:58] <MrObvious> drcheezenstein: I hope BCM chipset issues improve with 8.10.
[18:58] <MrObvious> drcheezenstein: It's the one area that needs some work.
[18:58] <drcheezenstein> :( i lost my 7.10 disc :(
[18:58] <MrObvious> Well I'm out.
[18:58] <aarrghhh> @ jondeere
[18:58] <drcheezenstein> when does 8.10 come out?
[18:58] <soundray> scotiobade2: give it ten minutes or so, then repeat your question. In the meantime, try a web search on e.g. site:ubuntuforums.org ubuntu archos music
[18:58] <yao_ziyua1> my video card is ati radeon 9200 with 3d acceleration. do i need to install additional driver packages?
[18:58] <ompaul> !language | drcheezenstein
[18:59] <MrObvious> drcheezenstein: October 08. :p
[18:59] <aarrghhh> go system>system|hardware-treiber>
[18:59] <MrObvious> Later.
[18:59] <aarrghhh> activate then change xconfig
[18:59] <ross> ok
[18:59] <JonDeere> OK trying
[18:59] <drcheezenstein> god, am I going to have to clean upgrade for that too?
[18:59] <fen_> drcheezenstein: ok try iwconfig wlan0, and look for ESSID
[18:59] <Steve-Cal> Tonydude: OK your chipset is "RTL8197" and you can use ndiswrapper to get it working. Just follow this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792092
[18:59] <JonDeere> Can't reach System option in menu in this mode
[18:59] <JonDeere> It's crowded out
[19:00] <Tonydude> alright i hope it works
[19:00] <aarrghhh> then i'm sorry. can't help you. me is a newbie too.
[19:00] <drcheezenstein> fen_ it just has "" next to essid
[19:00] <JonDeere> OK
[19:00] <JonDeere> Thanks for trying though. :)
[19:00] <m4u17k> mut2
[19:00] <emma> soundray: I hope that some day I attain your level of competence. Some times I sit here for very long stretches waiting for a question that is at my level :P
[19:01] <ompaul> m4u17k, this is #ubuntu the official ubuntu support channel
[19:01] <fen_> drcheezenstein: is your wireless network using wpa? (it should be if it isn't)
[19:01] <Gin> how do you open .package file?
[19:01] <drcheezenstein> fen_ there is no protection for it at the moment, we couldnt get the wii to work with protection on it
[19:02] <emma> Gin: do you mean a .deb package?
[19:02] <Steve-Cal> veeturi: I have to get going, but I'll be back in an hour or so maybe... someone can probably help you in the meantime.
[19:02] <fen_> Gin: .package is an ambiguos file extension try a text editor
[19:02] <fen_> drcheezenstein: ok
[19:02] <preetam1987> ..........
[19:02] <fen_> drcheezenstein: on the up side it will make diagnosis easier
[19:03] <ompaul> preetam1987, this is #ubuntu the official ubuntu support channel
[19:03] <drcheezenstein> when I click on the network manager button, it comes up with our signal though with a good signal
[19:03] <veeturi> steve-cal: ok sure buddy , i ll wait for you..
[19:03] <fen_> do you know the essid and channel your acesss point is on?
[19:04] <aarrghhh> HELP! want to query a user. but i don't know the server he's joining. wan't to give him a proof that i'm NOT that stupid...
[19:04] <aarrghhh> please
[19:04] <etronik> Now I've done ! I've F### my system during the upgrade
[19:04] <ompaul> aarrghhh that would be a question for #defocus or #freenode
[19:04] <Gnutoo> aarrghhh, whois?
[19:04] <Starnestommy> aarrghhh: the server doesn't matter, but the network does
[19:05] <aarrghhh> thx ompaul!!
[19:05] <aarrghhh> name must be sth like bimmeli
[19:05] <selven_> etronik, what's thep robs... i just did a gutsy to hardy update, fucked my system, had to use dpkg to get things back online
[19:05] <ompaul> etronik, sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade might help
[19:05] <ompaul> aarrghhh, you are offtopic for here
[19:05] <liux> ciao a tutti
[19:05] <aarrghhh> hope i don't cause him trouble while tellin' his name
[19:05] <Myrtti> language, selven
[19:05] <ompaul> aarrghhh, you are going to get yourself banned you are offtopic for here
[19:05] <aarrghhh> sry
[19:06] <selven_> etronik, if you are having the same bug, then please confirm it here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-apt/+bug/193223
[19:06] <aarrghhh> so i quit
[19:06] <selven_> they have set the status as fixed, but it isn't
[19:06] <JonDeere> I need help editing my xorg.conf file to add the option, Option "UseEDID" "FALSE", so that I can set to video modes above 640X480 in my Nvidia driver?
[19:06] <selven_> Myrtti, : sorry about the language, that slipped
[19:07] <fen_> drcheezenstein: ah shit i have to get some sleep its 4am here and i've been up since 6am yesterday
[19:07] <drcheezenstein> god damn
[19:07] <drcheezenstein> ok fen_
[19:07] <selven_> JonDeere, doesn't the nvidia.run driver do that automatically for you?
[19:07] <Myrtti> fen_: , mind the language!
[19:07] <drcheezenstein> looks like im not getting any help till later cause i have to goto work soon
[19:07] <Assid> err.. anyone know how to mount a folder
[19:07] <Sun13> jondeere: did you just uprade?
[19:07] <selven_> Assid, : mount a folder ???
[19:07] <shiv1285> hello, Can anyone tell me how do i uninstall programs downloaded via wine?
[19:07] <drcheezenstein> whats wrong with "cure" words?
[19:08] <drcheezenstein> curse*
[19:08] <Assid> yeah.. i want to mount a location directly
[19:08] <drcheezenstein> its notlike they actually put curses on people
[19:08] <drcheezenstein> get over it
[19:08] <joca> oi
[19:08] <fen[a]> drcheezenstein: 'family' channel
[19:08] <Myrtti> drcheezenstein: this is a family frendly channel
[19:08] <Sun13> shiva: i just deleted them
[19:08] <joca> quem esta ai
[19:08] <joca>  dias
[19:08] <selven_> Assid, why not just sym link it?
[19:08] <Myrtti> joca: /join #ubuntu-br
[19:08] <drcheezenstein> yeah well its my personal opinion that familys need to get over it too
[19:08] <fen[a]> can't be teaching kiddies to swear :)
[19:08] <ompaul> drcheezenstein, it is to be kept friendly and professional
[19:08] <Myrtti> drcheezenstein: your personal
[19:08] <shiv1285> where do you go to delete them?
[19:08] <ompaul> drcheezenstein, well you are offtopic for here now
[19:08] <drcheezenstein> sorry
[19:09] <drcheezenstein> just went on a rant
[19:09] <ompaul> we kind of noticed
[19:09] <joca> oi
[19:09] <joca> pessoal
[19:09] <goat|lappy> hello all, anyone seeing "Could not calculate the upgrade" when updating and being prompted to dist-upgrade?
[19:09] <shiv1285> Sun13: where do you go to delete them
[19:09] <Myrtti> !pt | joca
[19:09] <ompaul> joca, /join #ubuntu-br
[19:09] <JonDeere> Yes I just used System Hardware an enabled the Nvidia driver
[19:09] <ompaul> Myrtti, no bot
[19:09] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[19:09] <JonDeere> How to I invoke nvidia.run?
[19:09] <joca> como vao todos
[19:09] <Myrtti> ompaul: ubot3 is here...
[19:09] <joca> oi myrtti
[19:10] <ompaul> hmm
[19:10] <Sun13> shiv: to goto your the file directory home look for .vmware and look for the program
[19:10] <Myrtti> prolly muted?
[19:10] <JonDeere> I mean it basically works, I have fancy window pops now, but it's stuck in 640X480. OK
[19:10] <ompaul> I just tried to unmute
[19:10] <Myrtti> didn't see a thing
[19:10] <Sun13> shiv: i meant wine
[19:10] <Myrtti> oh, there
[19:10] <ompaul> !test
[19:10] <ompaul> ^btlogin
[19:11] <ompaul> @btligin
[19:11] <ompaul> @btlogin
[19:11] <selven_> JonDeere, then edit it and see if it works
[19:11] <ompaul> nothing
[19:11] <Isamu> Bonjour
[19:11] <ompaul> dead as a dodo
[19:11] <Myrtti> ompaul: noticed
[19:11] <Myrtti> oh well.
[19:11] <scotiobade2> ok i have checked forums but i cant seem to find anything.
[19:11] <ompaul> Isamu, /join #ubuntu-fr
[19:11] <JonDeere> OK could you walk me through that, Selven?
[19:11] <melch> I need help with gnome-do I am trying to change the background of the program.
[19:11] <szgal> Hi, I am following a tutorial that requires me to install a package called "desktop-effects", however, it does not appear on my list. I am running Ubuntu Hardy, any ideas?
[19:12] <Sun13> how much difference will i experience with 64 bit vs. 32 bit
[19:12] <Isamu> ok sorry
[19:12] <Isamu> I try to config my xchat & mozilla
[19:13] <JonDeere> I'm on ubuntu hard 8.04 if that helps. :)
[19:13] <szgal> Hi, I am following a tutorial that requires me to install a package called "desktop-effects", however, it does not appear on my list. I am running Ubuntu Hardy, any ideas?
[19:13] <ompaul> Sun13, desktop or server
[19:13] <Myrtti> !info scrot
[19:13] <ubot3> scrot: command line screen capture utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-7 (gutsy), package size 18 kB, installed size 88 kB
[19:13] <melch> szgal, link lease in a pm
[19:13] <melch>  I need help with gnome-do I am trying to change the background of the program.
[19:13] <Sun13> ompaul: both
[19:14] <szgal> mlech, link lease? What does that mean
[19:14] <Myrtti> !test
[19:14] <melch> szgal, you said u were following a guide
[19:14] <Starnestommy> szgal: I think melch is asking for a link to that guide
[19:14] <ompaul> Sun13, well then desktops are easier to work with codecs and so forth big databases i.e. over a gig do work better with 64bit mixing both of those I would say 32bit
[19:15] <bing_> is it ok to run ubuntu with no firewall of antivirus
[19:15] <Myrtti> !ping
[19:15] <ompaul> bing_, I have been doing that for years and never been bothered
[19:15] <ompaul> bing_, so I guess so ;-)
[19:15] <szgal> Starnestommy, thx, lol link lease.
[19:15] <Starnestommy> bing_: it doesn't need an antivirus, but a firewall is installed by default with no rules ni it
[19:15] <Starnestommy> (in
[19:15] <emma> Heya Myrtti :)
[19:15] <bing_> good enogh for me
[19:15] <Myrtti> hi emma
[19:15] <Luisnuxero> hi, i'm searching for a irc channel like this but in spanish
[19:16] <Starnestommy> Luisnuxero: try #ubuntu-es
[19:16] <emma> !es | Luisnuxero
[19:16] <ompaul> Luisnuxero, #ubuntu-es
[19:16] <Luisnuxero> it exist?
[19:16] <Luisnuxero> thnak
[19:16] <Sun13> ompaul: so if i have the hardware i should go with 64 bit then
[19:16] <Myrtti> emma: sorry, no bots :-<
[19:16] <ompaul> join it
[19:16] <Luisnuxero> thanks
[19:16] <emma> Myrtti: ahh ooh.. Okies.
[19:16] <bing_> right ok so im ok downloading torrents,
[19:16] <ompaul> Sun13, if you want to - but ehh know this codecs and multimedia won't like you as much
[19:16] <RAdams> I need to conduct a simple file operation, but I'm running it in verbose mode and want all the output echoed to a text file. How do I do that?
[19:16] <jollyjumper74> ciao. potete dirmi come posso avere la lista?
[19:17] <selven_> RAdams, you put a redir
[19:17] <selven_> like this
[19:17] <ompaul> RAdams, function | tee >> somefile
[19:17] <selven_> whatever_amdoing>>thetextfile
[19:17] <Sun13> ompaul: thanks
[19:17] <RAdams> ompaul, selven: ty. I knew it was someting simple >.>
[19:17] <selven_> RAdams: ompaul's better
[19:17] <shiv1285> Thanks Sun13
[19:18] <RAdams> selven: k
[19:18] <ompaul> Sun13, RAdams yw
[19:18] <Sun13> shiva: you got it cool yw
[19:18] <melch>  I need help with gnome-do I am trying to change the background of the program.
[19:18] <shiv1285> yup, it worked. Thanks a lot
[19:18] <melch> I'm a linux newb but a long time OSX user with quicksilver love. For some reason the open url pluging will not boot up firefox 3. Also i would like to know how to change the background picture. Any help would be great. Thanks
[19:18] <s_spiff> guys.. need help. I have two lan cards.. one on board.. which is for my modem based net connection..and the other is for my LAN. Somehow its not getting detected..the second lan card i just inserted... any ideas?
[19:19] <ompaul> melch, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeDo
[19:19] <selven_> melch,  Quicksilver rules :D
[19:19] <JonDeere> Selven, in the log file it says (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1
[19:19] <s_spiff> anyone??? I have two lan cards.. one on board.. which is for my modem based net connection..and the other is for my LAN. Somehow its not getting detected..the second lan card i just inserted... any ideas?
[19:20] <Radit> how do i install a gedit plugin?
[19:20] <Nattgew> s_spiff what kind of card is the other card?
[19:20] <selven_> JonDeere, have you checked what driver you are using in the xorg.conf?? is it the restricted one or the normal one?
[19:20] <szgal> melch, you around?
[19:20] <s_spiff> Nattgew: its just a ethernet card.. realtek
[19:20] <melch> ompaul, not working
[19:20] <Radit> nevermiund
[19:20] <JonDeere> It should be the restricted, just  sec
[19:21] <selven_> s_spiff, realtek cards works anywhere as far as i know
[19:21] <ompaul> melch, don't use it there is a howto on the web page
[19:21] <ompaul> melch, as  in I don't use it -- there is a howto on the web page
[19:21] <s_spiff> selven_: exactly.. it used to work before.. I dunno why its not working now... altho on inserting the cable behind, I'm getting those two blinking lights as usual :(
[19:21] <JonDeere> Is this the right thing? : Section "Device"Identifier	"Configured VideoDevice"Driver"nvidia"Option"NoLogo"	"True"EndSection
[19:21] <melch> ompaul, no way to change background listed
[19:22] <king> now i got the sound, but it have very annoying backround sound on it
[19:22] <Nattgew> s_spiff, where are you looking for it that it doesn't show up?
[19:22] <Myrtti> !info ubuntu-desktop
[19:22] <ubot3> ubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.79 (gutsy), package size 22 kB, installed size 48 kB
[19:22] <kushal1> Hello, I need a script that will automatically add about 140 movie clips onto a program called DeVeDe. I am running Ubuntu 8.04 on a Toshiba Satellite M55-S135. Please help. I have added about 70 clips by hand and it is not much fun. If I do it regularly, I fear I will get RSI or something. Control Click, shift click, and control A (select all) do not work on DeVeDe. Please help.
[19:22] <Myrtti> !kwallet
[19:22] <ubot3> Factoid kwallet not found
[19:22] <selven_> hmm dmesg?
[19:22] <melch> I'm a linux newb but a long time OSX user with quicksilver love. For some reason the open url pluging will not boot up firefox 3. Also i would like to know how to change the background picture. Any help would be great. Thanks
[19:22] <s_spiff> Nattgew: the Manual Configuration ..which you get when you click on Network applet on gnome panel
[19:22] <selven_> s_spiff, dmesg?
[19:23] <Nattgew> s_spiff so the modem shows but the realtek does not?
[19:23] <kushal1> I think the output file for DeVeDe is only a simple text/xml file that can be manipulated outside the program. Could anyone confirm it?
[19:23] <Nattgew> melch right click on the background to change it
[19:23] <s_spiff> Nattgew: yup... this has happened to me for the first time..
[19:23] <xocite> netsplit over?
[19:23] <s_spiff> selven_: whats dmesg?
[19:23] <selven_> type it
[19:23] <ompaul> melch, on that page it suggests:  IRC: #gnome-do on irc.freenode.net
[19:23] <Nattgew> s_spiff does it show up with ifconfig or lspci?
[19:24] <selven_> s_spiff, type if see if the rtl driver is reporting nything
[19:24] <s_spiff> Nattgew, selven_ lemme check
[19:24] <melch> ompaul, i'm there
[19:24] <s_spiff> selven_: how do i do that?
[19:24] <selven_> type in in gnome-terminal
[19:24] <emma> Myrtti: kwallet is a subsystem that provides a convenient and secure way to manage all your passwords. More information is available at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/kwallet
[19:24] <selven_> dmesg |less
[19:24] <thepunisher> is wubi stable
[19:24] <s_spiff> Nattgew: ifconfig is showing me only eth0...
[19:25] <Dr_willis> thepunisher,  wubi scares me. :) id much perfer  a normal install.
[19:25] <RAdams> emma: no bots please.
[19:25] <mohkohn> How does one remove firefox plugins so they stay removed?
[19:25] <yme> Hi, I've got a corrupted file on my external HD, marked as d?????????? I can't do anything on it, I can't remove it, I can't move it etc. Is there a way to fix an external HD or to force a remove?
[19:25] <RAdams> Dr_willis: I've used two different systems with wubi, and its behaved itself perfectly :)
[19:25] <Myrtti> emma: I know, I was just testing the bot functionality
[19:25] <emma> RAdams: I'm not sure I understand what you are telling me.
[19:25] <thepunisher> ok i used to use ubuntu full time but i got windows xp for gaming =)
[19:25] <s_spiff> selven_: your command ended up with loads of output.. which I can;t make any sense of..
[19:26] <emma> Myrtti: Oh I'm sorry. I thought you wanted to see the factoid :)
[19:26] <Myrtti> emma: atleast it responded, although with old database
[19:26] <Tonydude> can someone help me setup my rtl8187b wireless card to work? i tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792092 But no luck
[19:26] <selven_> s_spiff, : do this dmesg>>theoutput.txt
[19:26] <Nattgew> yme you can do a sudo umount -f /path to force an unmount
[19:26] <thepunisher> So should i resize my ntfs partition down by 8 gigs and convert my 8GIG partition to fat32 for sharing?
[19:26] <Myrtti> emma: common mistake :-)
[19:26] <selven_> s_spiff, see if you can post that file theoutput.txt somewhere on pastebin for example
[19:26] <RAdams> thepunisher: fat32 is the fs of the devil
[19:26] <s_spiff> okies
[19:26] <Dr_willis> RAdams,  given the # of people i see in here a week with issues.. I will avoide wubi.. i will admit theres not as MANY as i though therr would be. But it may be not many people are using it...
[19:26] <yme> Nattgew, but then what? Will that remove my file?
[19:26] <thepunisher> yeah but fat32 works easily with ubuntu
[19:27] <Nattgew> that will just unmount your drive
[19:27] <RAdams> thepunisher: may I suggest www.driver-fs.org, where you can mount ext3 seamlessly in Windows?
[19:27] <Nattgew> yme you can do a sudo rm filename to try and remove the file
[19:27] <Benzap> questions, does a .inf file for a PCMCIA or any other internet card typically include a .cat file with it as well?
[19:27] <selven_> RAdams, : Fat32 is nice to share p0rn on not everyone have linux or BSD installed on their PCs.. so a big HDD with Fat32 is sure to be detected everywhere .. pr0n lots of p0rn
[19:28] <Benzap> I have 3 .infs with one with a .cat
[19:28] <RAdams> thepunisher: www.fs-driver.org, sorry
[19:28] <thepunisher> k
[19:28] <selven_> thepunisher, search for e2fs
[19:28] <yme> Nattgew, I've already tried. It gives the following exception: rm: cannot remove `manual': Input/output error
[19:28] <RAdams> selven_: fat32=fragmentation and wasted allocation space :(
[19:28] <thepunisher> radams: can that replay an ext3 journal if i have a hardpoweroff?
[19:28] <Tonydude> can someone help me setup my rtl8187b wireless card to work? i tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792092 But no luck
[19:28] <selven_> RaDams :p who cares when it is a porn disk :p
[19:29] <RAdams> thepunisher: yes, but if you're doing emergency volume recovery, I'd boot into Linux to let those drivers handle that
[19:29] <Nattgew> yme you could also try fsck /dev/device after you unmount it to do a disk check
[19:29] <thepunisher> before i resize my ntfs partition should i run chkdsk and defrag?
[19:29] <s_spiff> Nattgew, selven_ : http://paste.ubuntu.com/16045/
[19:29] <RAdams> selven_: given that I find porn to be a waste of everything, i'm probably the wrong person to ask on that
[19:29] <JonDeere> Definately, Punisher
[19:29] <AlexCONRAD> hi, my screen keeps blanking out where there's no activity. How can I prevent this ?
[19:29] <AlexCONRAD> I removed all screen savers
[19:30] <selven_> RAdams :p we must be realistic... the internet and all the advances in technology is due to the porn industry
[19:30] <AlexCONRAD> and from the screensaver panel, I clicked power managemenet and set "never sleep" to everyting
[19:30] <yme> Nattgew, thanks. I'll try that
[19:30] <RAdams> thepunisher: backup before you chkdsk, but JonDeere is definitely right: run chkdsk and defrag. But ALWAYS backup first; chkdsk is a bulldozer
[19:30] <thepunisher> wat do you mean chkdsk is a bulldozer?
[19:30] <moshe> CONRAD,the problem is probably with your power settings causing the screen to blank with no activity
[19:30] <RAdams> selven_: some, yes. even many. but not all.
[19:30] <selven_> Radams :p check out the stats on porn downloaded yearly
[19:31] <thepunisher> dosent care about anything but the filesystem metadata?
[19:31] <RAdams> thepunisher: chkdsk only cares about the health of the volume. it doesn't give a flying fuck about your data. if will repair the volume at the cost of your data if it has to
[19:31] <Tonydude> can someone help me setup my rtl8187b wireless card to work? i tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792092 But no luck
[19:31] <Benzap> BAH!! for ndiswrapper, i should use the .inf with an identical .cat correct?
[19:31] <RAdams> !wireless | tonydude
[19:31] <ubot3> tonydude: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:31] <yme> Nattgew, it gives the following error:
[19:31] <thepunisher> how good is ntfs on ubuntu?
[19:31] <s_spiff> Nattgew: selven_: any ideas??
[19:31] <yme> Nattgew, fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[19:32] <RAdams> thepunisher: I use ntfs-3g everyday, never had a problem
[19:32] <ompaul> !langauge | RAdams
[19:32] <ubot3> RAdams: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:32] <RAdams> ompaul: my bad >.>
[19:32] <emma> thepunisher: I use ext3 for all of my linux stuff. I think that ntfs is more for the windows partition.
[19:32] <thepunisher> did you ever have a hard poweroff?
[19:32] <thepunisher> with ntfs3g
[19:32] <moshe> thepunisher,I use ntfs to accedd several other drives in hardy with no problems
[19:32] <RAdams> thepunisher: yes. i did one on purpose. volume remounted healthily, didn't even have to -f mount it
[19:32] <Benzap> unless you plan on transferring data from linux to winodws, use ext3
[19:32] <Nattgew> s_spiff, you've restarted, right?
[19:32] <RAdams> thepunisher: YMMV, of course :P
[19:32] <dissocia7ive> does ubuntu comes with mac-fdisk?
[19:32] <JonDeere> Selven, could you walk me through fixing my video? :) I'm a noob. The log says it can't get EDID from the video system and I think that's the issue and there's that option I found on the nvidia site... But I don't know where to go from here
[19:33] <moshe> I have a seperate windoz drive and can read/write thru ntfs
[19:33] <s_spiff> Nattgew: i shut down.. fixed the card onto the slot.. and started the pc.. thats all i've done.
[19:33] <thepunisher> I use and only use ext3. I have had bad luck with jfs reiserfs xfs
[19:33] <Nattgew> yme, do you have a dual boot or something for the ntfs
[19:33] <Benzap> actually i have a good question about blacklisting in the new ubuntu, i want to blacklist the prism64 drivers but it won't let me
[19:33] <Nattgew> s_spiff, if you start it with just the realtek does it work?
[19:33] <Benzap> where do i go to ensure that they're blacklisted?
[19:33] <RAdams> thepunisher: xfs has been good to me for my media storage partitions
[19:33] <melch> I'm a linux newb but a long time OSX user with quicksilver love. For some reason the open url pluging will not boot up firefox 3. Also i would like to know how to change the background picture. Any help would be great. Thanks
[19:33] <yme> Nattgew, nope
[19:34] <AlexCONRAD> moshe: i did remove all sleeps i could under the power managemenet panel, accessible via the screensaver panel
[19:34] <s_spiff> Nattgew:  meaning?.. the other ethernet card is onboard.. so i can't really remove it
[19:34] <yme> Nattgew, I can see all the files and work with them, only this one file is corrupted
[19:34] <ompaul> Benzap, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[19:34] <MrObvious> melch: No clue on Firefox...
[19:34] <Benzap> I did
[19:34] <thepunisher> does ntfs3g support compressed files?
[19:34] <moshe> CONRAD,what type video board are you using?
[19:34] <Nattgew> yme you should use ext3 or something else, ntfs support isn't the best, you should try backing up and making it ext3 rather than ntfs, and that should also fix the problem
[19:34] <Benzap> for some reason when i load the ndiswrapper .inf and .cat, it still assigns my card a prism driver
[19:34] <MrObvious> melch: But System -> Preferences -> Appearance allows you to change background.
[19:34] <RAdams> melch: for the openurl plugin in firefox, try #firefox. Regarding changing the background picture, right click on the desktop and select "Change Desktop Background" :O
[19:35] <melch> MrObvious, do u wnat to help me work out iwth me
[19:35] <selven_> s_spiff, sorry was looking at it
[19:35] <Benzap> and my card dodesn't support prism
[19:35] <yme> Nattgew, how can I make it ext3
[19:35] <yme> ?
[19:35] <Nattgew> s_spiff the card works on other computers?
[19:35] <melch> MrObvious, of Gnome-do?
[19:35] <syke> hi
[19:35] <selven_> s_spiff you sure you can see the card listed in that connection manager tihngy?
[19:35] <JonDeere> Oh sorry, Selven. Let me know when you have a minute. :)
[19:35] <s_spiff> Nattgew: umm.. long time since i checked it out.. but last time it worked.
[19:35] <syke> does anyone know where I can find a precompiled udf.ko for hardy amd64 that has UDF 2.5 support?
[19:35] <MrObvious> melch: I was finishing my statement lol. Yeah that is for Gnome.
[19:35] <Nattgew> yme you have to back up your data first, and then you can unmount it and use gparted to reformat it
[19:35] <s_spiff> selven_: bnopes.. which is why i'm vexed!
[19:35] <melch> RAdams, i ment for gnome-do
[19:36] <selven_> s_spiff, is it enabld in your bios???
[19:36] <melch> RAdams, also i was talking about the plugin in gnome do.
[19:36] <GurgehMorat> Hello to all, good afternoon
[19:36] <selven_> s_spiff, because i don't seem to see any rtl device in dmesg
[19:36] <s_spiff> selven_: how do i do that?? never had a need to do that .. cuz i've tried a similar setup when i was on feisty.. never had to do it. but anyways.. temme how do i do it?
[19:37] <Uplink> how do i perform a check disk?
[19:37] <Starnestommy> Uplink: fsck
[19:37] <Uplink> my computer is glitching SO BAD!
[19:37] <vic1ous> can someone help me
[19:37] <MrObvious> lol Starnestommy that was fast.
[19:37] <Uplink> on windows and on linux a little bit
[19:37] <vic1ous> i'm trying to get grub to see my windows xp
[19:37] <MrObvious> Uplink: Do you think it is your hard drive? I would back up NOW first.
[19:37] <vic1ous> this is what i have in the menu.lst
[19:38] <Uplink> MrObvious, I think so :(
[19:38] <Tonydude> can someone help me setup my rtl8187b wireless card to work? i tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792092 But no luck i need someone to walk me through it who has done it before becuase everything i try fai.s
[19:38] <vic1ous> title           Windows XP
[19:38] <vic1ous> root            (hd0,1)
[19:38] <vic1ous> makeactivechainloader +1
[19:38] <magnetron> !enter | Uplink, vic1ous
[19:38] <selven_> s_spiff, when your machine boots up, you press del (or f1 on some machine) to enter the "set up menu" find the pci devices you have installed (browse a bit.. make sure you don't mess with things you can't change after, then see if oyu can find the pci device there and enable it there
[19:38] <vic1ous> whats that magnetron
[19:38] <Starnestommy> vic1ous: "makeactive" and "chainloader +1" need to be on separate lines
[19:38] <MrObvious> Uplink: Back up NOW! Next, if you haven't I would buy a copy of Spinrite from grc.com and let it run. It might give your hard drive a second wind.
[19:38] <s_spiff> selven_: allright... brb then..
[19:38] <vic1ous> ohh
[19:38] <vic1ous> ok
[19:38] <vic1ous> ill try that right quick
[19:39] <ubot3> Uplink, vic1ous: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:39] <Uplink> MrObvious, TY :D
[19:39] <GurgehMorat> I did an "ls > text" how can I do something like "rm < text", is there a way
[19:39] <GurgehMorat> ?
[19:39] <vic1ous> oh ok sorry, ill brb i trying the new lst
[19:39] <MrObvious> vic1ous: Hmm the bot doesn't seem to be up. Basically if you can use a pastebin that would be helpful. Just go to a pastebin website like in the /title then paste your output to that pastebin website then push Submit and give us the URL.
[19:39] <selven_> hahahahhahahahahahaha muhahahahahahahaha, upgraded successfully :D bug fixed by using dpkg to manually installing some packages
[19:40] <MrObvious> Uplink: You're welcome. Spinrite is a great product that I would use right away after backing up.
[19:40] <MrObvious> Uplink: It's $89 but worth it.
[19:40] <Freeaqingme> anybody ever played lincity? The amount of jobs stays at zero, no matter what I do...
[19:40] <selven_> GurgehMorat, cat text |rm ?
[19:40] <GurgehMorat> selven_ sounds good, let me try. Thanks
[19:40] <selven_> Uplink was a game na?
[19:40] <Uplink> MrObvious, oh wow! do i have to buy it? :(
[19:40] <selven_> GurgehMorat, without the question mark though
[19:41] <Uplink> selven_, yea... then uplink on the HUB too ;)
[19:41] <Tonydude> can someone help me setup my rtl8187b wireless card to work? i tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792092 But no luck and i need someone who can personally walk me through it, im really new to ubuntu and the whole linux thing
[19:41] <GurgehMorat> selven_ :D of course, but still have "rm: missing operand" though :(
[19:41] <MrObvious> Uplink: Yeah. It's the best hard drive repair software around.  But if you can't get priceless data off you will be glad to pay it.
[19:41] <vdsy> is anyone having problems playing amarok on a laptop? it mutes while the equalizer is still going and a few seconds later the sound comes back
[19:41] <b4l74z4r> i installed the compiz settings manager but i there's no custom option under "System>Preferences>Appearance>Visual Effects, so how do i enable the custom settings that i have set in the settings manager?
[19:42] <Uplink> MrObvious, im not sure if its my HDD tho
[19:42] <Starnestommy> GurgehMorat: try "cat text | xargs -I '{}' rm"
[19:42] <selven_> Uplink, :p non you just rememberred me of that game, i was trying to remember that name, since that makes a hell long time ago since i heard that, and i was writing a paper about how to teach programmin to students, then wanted to use that as a reference to try to inject gaming into learning
[19:42] <MrObvious> Uplink: It's a program that fixes errors on sectors by moving data to new ones. If there is an actual physical defect nothing will probably help except maybe replacing the circuit board.
[19:43] <Crewsr3> I'm ready to install hardy and I was hoping someone could help me with my parition set up
[19:43] <MrObvious> Crewsr3: Sure!
[19:43] <Crewsr3> I have read that I should put my /home drive on a diffrent partition
[19:43] <Crewsr3> how should I set things up
[19:43] <MrObvious> Crewsr3: How big of a space do you have available for Ubuntu?
[19:43] <Crewsr3> 400 gigs
[19:43] <JonDeere> Wow. :)
[19:43] <GurgehMorat> Starnestommy: Ok, that one goes further, it does the loop for each line I guess, but each rm returns missing operand
[19:44] <selven_> Thanks Starnestommy  :p
[19:44] <dissocia7ive> does mac-fdisk comes with ubuntu?
[19:44] <Starnestommy> GurgehMorat: er, try "cat text | xargs -I '{}' rm '{}'"
[19:44] <Crewsr3> How much room should I give the os  20 gigs
[19:44] <MrObvious> Crewsr3: Hint: type mro and push Tab on the keyboard and it will finish typing my  nickname and highlight it for me to see your posts easier.
[19:44] <Tonydude> can someone help me setup my rtl8187b wireless card to work? i tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792092 But no luck can someone please walk me through how to do this.  im new to ubuntu and linux
[19:44] <Crewsr3> MrObvious: Thanks
[19:45] <bing_> im trying to run utorrent  using wine but its saying my ports are not open and ive definatly not got a firwall on, any ideas
[19:45] <Crewsr3> MrObvious: should I give the boot partition 20 gigs or more?
[19:45] <MrObvious> Crewsr3: I would partition / for 20 gigs, swap for 512MB (or more if you don't have much RAM), and the rest for /home. Perhaps you might create a /backup and make the /home 80GB and the backup partition for regular backups.
[19:45] <MrObvious> Crewsr3: 20GB is plenty. You can get by with 10 but 20 will prevent problems later on.
[19:45] <Crewsr3> MrObvious: I will give the os 20 gigs
[19:45] <MrObvious> Crewsr3: Is this a server or a desktop?
[19:45] <Uplink> MrObvious, how can i do an fsck on my windows partition?
[19:45] <wabash> Hi, everyone. I'm working with MySQL, and it's running into problems with Apparmor. Can anyone help me with understandnig my apparmor permissions and how to fix them?
[19:45] <Crewsr3> MrObvious: I have four gigs of ram, but I was still thinking of having a swap
[19:46] <Tonydude> can someone help me setup my rtl8187b wireless card to work? i tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792092 But no luck someone pleassssse help.
[19:46] <MrObvious> Crewsr3: You need one. I would make it 256MB since you have 4GB. Also you would want to run a 64 bit version.
[19:46] <MrObvious> Uplink: Not sure sorry.
[19:46] <Crewsr3> MrObvious: I'm worried about going 64 because of driver and software support
[19:47] <MrObvious> Uplink: You may have to reboot to a WinME recovery floppy (can be found online) and run a fdisk from that.
[19:47] <LogiTech> how to join channel if i have problems with sound?? /join... ?
[19:47] <MrObvious> Crewsr3: Most of the stuff I run has good 64 bit support. All the drivers run fine.
[19:47] <Crewsr3> MrObvious: I'm on fiesty right now and the os can only see 3 gigs, but I'm fine with that
[19:47] <MrObvious> LogiTech: You already are in a good channel if you run Ubuntu.
[19:47] <GurgehMorat> Starnestommy: What do I need to be so cool as you :D Thanks, that worked!
[19:47] <nalioth> !bot
[19:47] <ubot3> I am ubottu, the all-knowing infobot, standing in for ubotu while he's getting his haircut done, nose powdered, updated and transitioned to his new gorgeous looks in the near future ;)
[19:48] <Crewsr3> MrObvious: Thank so much, would you recommend that I set up the partitions before run the install or do it with the install disk?
[19:48] <MrObvious> Crewsr3: They even made it so Flash works with 64 bit Firefox. It takes a little reading but you can get everything to work from searching wiki.ubuntu.com, the factoids on the ubotu bot, and ubuntuforums.org.
[19:48] <Tonydude> can someone help me setup my rtl8187b wireless card to work? i tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792092 But no luck please help guys
[19:49] <Roums> Can superblocks (on an ext2/ext3 fs) be created again from a corrupted/formated partition ?
[19:50] <MrObvious> Tonydude: Where are you getting stuck?
[19:50] <moshe> Tonydude,perhaps someone could help if you provide a bit more info on the exact problem
[19:50] <MrObvious> Crewsr3: I have no problems with 64 bit.
[19:50] <LogiTech> Could anyone tell me how to find what "soundcard" i have?... i want to buy logitech Z-5500 speakers but i need to know is my soundcard enough good...could anyone answer me in private chat...Thank You !
[19:50] <Tonydude> i cant get my wireless card to work period.
[19:50] <MrObvious> LogiTech: Do you use onboard sound or a sound card in a PCI slot?
[19:51] <s_spiff> selven_ , Nattgew: tried changing the slot.. checked out bio. the PCI stuff is all on auto.. so should actually be an issue.. but still no change.. i can't find it on my network config applet
[19:51] <Crewsr3> MrObvious: Should I set up the partitions before I run the install disk or during the install?
[19:51] <MrObvious> Tonydude: Did you try a modprobe ndiswrapper?
[19:51] <MrObvious> Crewsr3: I think during the install is fine.
[19:51] <bing_> i have my router firewall disabled and i still cant get any ports to say open using transmission or utorrent
[19:51] <Tonydude> mrobvious i have ndiswrapper idk about hte modprobe
[19:51] <Tonydude> ]
[19:51] <Crewsr3> MrObvious: Thanks for your help!!!  Here is goes!   Bye
[19:51] <MrObvious> Crewsr3: In fact if you do any partition resizing through GParted, you will need to do it from the LiveCD.
[19:51] <MrObvious> :\
[19:52] <MrObvious> Tonydude: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[19:52] <MrObvious> Tonydude: Also make sure the little switch on your computer (fn+key or a switch) is actually set to on.
[19:52] <LogiTech> MrObvious that i want to know...how to find out that? when i used windows i found easy which 1 i got...but with ubuntu its harder...to me
[19:52] <Noxide> anyone know how i can install "bcm43xx-fwcutter (apt)"
[19:52] <MrObvious> Noxide: You can't in Hardy. It's been replaced with b43. Are you on Fiesty or Hardy?
[19:53] <upd> hi, how i make .rar from .iso and it must work on windows and i want packet size is 1,6 GB so it must make 4 packet ?
[19:53] <selven_> s_spiff, looking at it
[19:53] <Uplink> MrObvious, my windows is REALLY slow... i dunno man :( sometimes my linux gets a little slow too
[19:53] <johey_> If I make an encypted partition using a passphrase, can I convert that to a key later, or would that require to whipe all data and redo it from scratch?
[19:53] <LogiTech> Mrobvious how to know do i have onboard sound or sound card in a pci slot? :D ...from hardware? sorry...not good on computers
[19:53] <Tonydude> mrobvious: it doesnt do anything when i sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[19:53] <kranny> can we locate symlinks of a file without using find?
[19:53] <MrObvious> LogiTech: Hmm. Do the speaker plugins look like they are by like the keyboard/mouse hookups or are they toward the bottom of the tower?
[19:54] <Ardorin> Suppose I install a package x, and it depends on the package y so y is installed too. Then I use synaptic to remove package x, what happens with package y?
[19:54] <MrObvious> Tonydude: No clue without more research.
[19:54] <MrObvious> Tonydude: All I can say is maybe start from scratch and follow the HOWTO again. You may have missed a step.
[19:54] <k33qk> can we locate symlinks of a file without using find?(find /mountpoint -type l -exec ls -l {} )
[19:54] <MrObvious> Uplink: Hmm.  NOD32 is an excellent program.
[19:55] <MrObvious> Uplink: And have you updated definitions?
[19:55] <Uplink> MrObvious, i was a quite bit infected
[19:55] <k33qk> GurgehMorat: yeah
[19:55] <MrObvious> LogiTech: Ok it's onboard. Now did you buy this computer from like Dell or HP or another company or was it custom built?
[19:55] <riba1> hi
[19:56] <nickz> MrObvious: This is Noxide, sorry I got disconnected.  I don't know specficially what i'm running. Is there a way I can check that out? I'm basically just trying to get my wireless card working in my laptop and I hit a wall with the wiki.
[19:56] <melch>
[19:56] <k33qk> GurgehMorat:can we retireve sumthin thru it s inode number?
[19:56] <riba1> how can I find out what's wrong with usb?
[19:56] <Uplink> MrObvious, yes, full updated... i was infected with prorat but it was b/c i was playing with it... and some other SS.exe virus but its removed now...
[19:56] <riba1> runing off of hardy derivative
[19:56] <MrObvious> Uplink: That could be your problem too. Try running Spyware Terminator from Safe Mode (don't install the Crawler Toolbar) and let it scan and remove everything.
[19:56] <riba1> something about ptp...does hardy have ptp for usb cams enabled by default?
[19:56] <Uplink> MrObvious, i have Outpost Firewall with Spyware built in
[19:56] <MrObvious> nickz: Which wireless chipset did you have?
[19:57] <LogiTech> Arting Cooling...
[19:57] <MrObvious> Uplink: Try Spyware Terminator. I use it on my Windows boxes with huge success.
[19:57] <GurgehMorat> k33qk: I'm not that skilled, inodes are too below for me :)
[19:57] <k33qk> can sumione look into this?
[19:57] <s_spiff> selven_: do i need to install any drivers or something? or update something?
[19:57] <selven_> s-spiff, can you please try disabling the onboard card and then gimme the new dmesg ?
[19:58] <Uplink> MrObvious, thank you for the advice... btw, my windows takes 10 minutes to fully boot
[19:58] <LogiTech> MrObvious it cost 700-800 $ 1.5 year ago when i bought it...now its like 300-400 $ bought from some little pc shop
[19:58] <MrObvious> Uplink: Do you know how to get to Saf eMode?
[19:58] <derspankster> can anyone tell me how to successfully installed the nvidia x driver?
[19:58] <selven_> s_spiff, disable the onboard card via the bios
[19:58] <kf4r-sh4l3m> help needed please, i have FATAL ERROR when trying to modprobe ndiswrapper
[19:58] <s_spiff> selven_: umm but then i won't be able to connect to the net. :(
[19:59] <MrObvious> LogiTech: Hmm. Do you have any sheets on it? Look on the case and see if it says Dell or HP or something similar. It might be a custom built. If I can get the motherboard make and model I could look it up easy.
[19:59] <Breakage> anyone know where i download tango orange icons, (orange folders). are the default ubuntu icons tango? if so where could i get them?
[19:59] <Uplink> MrObvious, yes bro... ty for the advice.... oh and when windows is fully loaded it is really laggy and glitchy... just like if i had some virus taking all my cache and resources
[19:59] <MrObvious> nickz: Sorry I don't remember your exact issue. Do you have a broadcom or something?
[19:59] <selven_> s_spiff: yes, once you get the dmesg saved in a text file ( dmesg>>newtextfile.txt) you can go back on bios , re bring it back up, then come again online posting the new dmesg
[20:00] <MrObvious> Uplink: You're welcome. Try that and report back if you can find me. lol
[20:00] <s_spiff> selven_: okies will try it.
[20:00] <MrObvious> Uplink: Let's move to #eocf so we aren't off topic.
[20:00] <s_spiff> selven_: i just need to finish some stuff, will do it after that and update you.
[20:00] <wabash> FurnaceBoy:
[20:00] <nickz> MrObvious, Yeah, I have a broadcom wireless adapter and according to the wiki i need to install bcm43xx-fwcutter, but you said there is a different version or something else.
[20:00] <selven_> s_spiff, okie
[20:00] <wabash> Ok, I got things laid out security wise.
[20:00] <Breakage> hmmm im looking for the tangerine-icon-theme (not on ubuntu though) anyone know where I can get it?
[20:00] <MrObvious> nickz: Oh oh oh ok. Which chipset and version of Ubuntu?
[20:01] <wabash> Now I need to add a group to a directory.  Or add mysql user to a group
[20:01] <LogiTech> MrObvious i think its cutom built
[20:01] <JonDeere> Selven, from what I'm seeing on the web, my xconfig looks REALLY "generic", like device "configured device" rather than nvidia
[20:01] <nickz> heh i just closed my laptop cause im downloading the newest version of ubuntu
[20:01] <wabash> So, a user can belong to more than one group, right? can a directory have more than one group?
[20:01] <nuno_nunes> !pt
[20:01] <ubot3> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[20:01] <JonDeere> So maybe editing just that one option isn't enough. What should I do?
[20:01] <nickz> MrObvious: Let me try installing the newest version of UBUNTU and then you'll see me back here. :-)
[20:02] <iuri> What the heck is "TIFF decompressor required
[20:02] <MrObvious> LogiTech: Call the shop and ask for the make and model of the motherboard. They may be able to look it up.
[20:02] <MrObvious> LogiTech: Or look through your recipt.
[20:02] <MrObvious> nickz: No wait.
[20:02] <JonDeere> I think tiffs are a video file format, iuri
[20:02] <JonDeere> Er, sorry, an image format
[20:02] <MrObvious> nickz: What do you have now? I can't help if you dont' work with me.
[20:02] <nickz> kk. let me boot up again and i'll give you the info
[20:03] <iuri> what is the ubuntu pkg related?
[20:03] <PCcertified> tiff is usually a picture file format
[20:03] <MrObvious> nickz: *sigh* ok
[20:03] <s_spiff> selven_: btw i don't think i'll be able to disable the onboard card cuz i didn't see any option for it.. as in i didn't see an entry for the onboard ethernet card...
[20:03] <selven_> s_spiff, there is always a way, this is possible on all boards
[20:03] <riba1> guys, it seems to me that f spot should have installed the ptp libraries..
[20:03] <selven_> look around well
[20:03] <JonDeere> BRB
[20:04] <riba1> why in the world can I see my cam?
[20:04] <riba1> baffles me
[20:04] <PCcertified> wish I was so lucky riba1
[20:04] <s_spiff> selven_: okies.. will check out
[20:04] <riba1> tried gnomad and it won't find anything in usb either
[20:04] <LogiTech> MrObvious could u tell me some soundcard which supports "logitech Z-5500" speakers? with low price :P ?...
[20:04] <nickz> MrObviouis: I have the BCM94311 and im not sure the version of UBUNTU im running, its a cd i made a while ago. But I don't think its a 64 release and the system its on is a 64bit system.
[20:04] <MrObvious> LogiTech: Not really. lol
[20:05] <LogiTech> MrObvious :D lol...
[20:05] <MrObvious> nickz: uname -a will tell you.
[20:05] <nickz> MrObvious: So i'm downloading a better distro to start from there. since that is going to cause me problems anyway
[20:05] <MrObvious> nickz: Just download Hardy so I can work with you better.
[20:05] <nickz> 2.6.22-14-generice
[20:05] <nickz> onto that box?
[20:06] <riba1> 2.6.24-16-generic
[20:06] <PCcertified> LogiTech: look at the low end sound blaster series from Creative, like the audigy, they all support 5.1
[20:06] <nickz> MrObvious: Ok, ill go work on that first
[20:06] <MrObvious> nickz: It sounds like Fiesty.
[20:07] <MrObvious> nickz: If you want to install you can do Hardy but Fiesty is still good.
[20:07] <etronik> My upgrade from Dapper to Hardy Heron left my PC now unbootable, so what are my options now ??
[20:07] <magnetron> MrObvious: lsb_release gives you the actual distro name and version
[20:07] <riba1> etronic: reinstall
[20:07] <riba1> :)
[20:07] <ace_suares> etronik: use the rescue cd
[20:07] <h4L1m> hello guys, are there any commands to set the fglrx drivers back, everytime when i open up vlc media player and start a movie everything freezes, anyone who knows the command for the aticonfig?
[20:07] <riba1> herm....
[20:07] <ace_suares> etronik: I mean the recue option on the install cd
[20:07] <etronik> ace_suares: is the rescue CD included in the alternate CD ?
[20:07] <nickz> MrObvious: I dont know what that means. I thought hardy was the name for the 8.04 release of UBUNTU
[20:08] <ace_suares> etronik: yes
[20:08] <nickz> What is fiesty?
[20:08] <etronik> ace_suares: ok, thanks, trying that
[20:08] <ace_suares> nickz: it is, Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron
[20:08] <nickz> Ok, ill be back in a bit.
[20:08] <ace_suares> nickz: Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Something
[20:08] <MrObvious> nickz: Yes it is. Fiesty was 7.10
[20:08] <JonDeere> Fawn
[20:08] <h4L1m> Feisty Fawn
[20:08] <MrObvious> magnetron: Noted.
[20:08] <MrObvious> lol everyone help him. :p
[20:09] <h4L1m> and no one helps me
[20:09] <ace_suares> JonDeere: I tought Fairy :-)
[20:09] <h4L1m> :(
[20:09] <ace_suares> h4L1m: poor person! what ails you !?
[20:09] <JonDeere> Hehe
[20:09] <Yggdrasil> how do i purge a gpackage using apt-get
[20:09] <h4L1m> are there any commands to set the fglrx drivers back, everytime when i open up vlc media player and start a movie everything freezes, someone who knows the command for the aticonfig?
[20:09] <alex1> hi guys. if i reinstall vista, will it leave my boot table intact? i.e. will grub still work as before?
[20:09] <ace_suares> h4L1m: oh yeah that was a q i can not answer thats why i did not react
[20:09] <MrObvious> Yggdrasil: You mean uninstall a package?
[20:10] <PCcertified> does anyone now where to find info on compiling my kernel?  I'm a complete noob so any advice is welcome.   I apparently need to do this to install my webcam driver .  accoding to the website,  linux kernel needs to be locally compiled in order to compile the microdia driver.
[20:10] <Yggdrasil> well theres a difference beetween' purgeand un=istall
[20:10] <ace_suares> !compile
[20:10] <ubot3> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[20:10] <ace_suares> !driver
[20:10] <ubot3> Factoid driver not found
[20:10] <h4L1m> ace_suares, ok but there are more than 1000 guys in this channel, you're not alone :)
[20:10] <Yggdrasil> =p;
[20:10] <ace_suares> h4L1m: well then they all dont know the answer maybe :-)
[20:10] <etronik> ace_suares: err how do I boot from the CDROM from Grub ??
[20:10] <MrObvious> PCcertified: Maybe there is already a driver built in.
[20:10] <PCcertified> alex1:  it will overwrite your boot table if you install vista first
[20:11] <PCcertified> first you should install Vista then install linux
[20:11] <Yggdrasil> =p;"]
[20:11] <Yggdrasil> _
[20:11] <Yggdrasil> _
[20:11] <Yggdrasil> O?]
[20:11] <h4L1m> if it is like that than i've got a big problem, ace_suares
[20:11] <MrObvious> !flood
[20:11] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[20:11] <ace_suares> etronik: you need to boot from the CD and then choose Rescue
[20:11] <toby_panzer> rupal
[20:11] <ace_suares> h4L1m: not every day is a good day
[20:11] <alex1> PCcertified, I can't. My vista was messed up, and I want to reinstall it. I already have Ubuntu installed.
[20:11] <h4L1m> ace_suares, exactly
[20:11] <etronik> ace_suares: I must be dumb! I have a bootable CDROM, but the process goes straight to Grub ....
[20:12] <ace_suares> alex1: I think Vista will fsck your boot sectors, but then youcan use the CD to resinatll grub, or use supergrubdisk
[20:12] <PCcertified> ace_suares:  that was useful but how does it help with compiling the kernel
[20:12] <ace_suares> etronik: yeah you need to instruct your bios to boot from the cd of course
[20:12] <perlmonkey> greetings
[20:12] <Steve-Cal> alex1: Instead of doing a complete reinstall, can't you just do the repair option from your Vista CD?
[20:12] <alex1> ace_suares, as an additional complication I have refit so that I can triple boot :(
[20:13] <ace_suares> PCcertified: I think you need only the kernel headers...
[20:13] <Yggdrasil> mrobvious im trying to reinstall bcm43xx-fwutter and the first time i did it asked if i wanted to dl the firmware but the link its using msut be broken and now , it wont install because itsl ooking for that link, and i cant get it to ask me the quesiton about dl it so that i can say no this time
[20:13] <etronik> ace_suares: then there must be something wrong with the alternate CD - is it bootable ? or do I have to Dl the regular 8.04 CD ?
[20:13] <alex1> Steve-Cal, I tried, but it wants to repair the boot table i think, as it can't find the boot partition
[20:13] <perlmonkey> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 on a new system (Dual Core) from CD, but it hangs at language selection stage.. tried a few times, always hangs at that point. CD was tested ok and used successfully on another PC. any ideas?
[20:14] <ace_suares> alex1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[20:14] <ace_suares> sorry
[20:14] <ace_suares> PCcertified: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[20:14] <PCcertified> alex1 you will have to reinstall Vista then you can use a linux boot CD to setup your boot loader.   Alternately you can use Vista to set up a menu to load at startup that points to your different OS's
[20:15] <ace_suares> etronik: you can also use the normal cd just startup linux from the cd not from the harddsik
[20:15] <ace_suares> etronik: butnormally your cd should be bootable
[20:15] <MrObvious> Yggdrasil: fwcutter is installed right? If so then just bcm43xx-fwcutter itself is fine. You don't need to install it
[20:15] <Yggdrasil> no its not installed
[20:15] <MrObvious> !bcm43xx | Yggdrasil Maybe the steps are on there.
[20:15] <ubot3> Yggdrasil Maybe the steps are on there.: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[20:15] <xlizard> wow ... thats a big channel ....
[20:15] <Yggdrasil> it thanks
[20:15] <h4L1m> xlizard, oh yeah
[20:15] <Yggdrasil> it wont install the pkg cuz it cant find the firmware its funny
[20:15] <h4L1m> !fglrx
[20:15] <ubot3> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:15] <riba1> !canon
[20:15] <ubot3> Factoid canon not found
[20:15] <etronik> ace_suares: I'm getting failure to boot from it, tried also with another CD and still boot failure
[20:15] <alex1> ok, thanks guys. i'll give it a shot
[20:16] <riba1> !powershot
[20:16] <ubot3> Factoid powershot not found
[20:16] <etronik> ace_suares: drive problem ??
[20:16] <ace_suares> etronik: how did you install ubuntu, form a cd i guess, use that cd !
[20:16] <alex1> i wish vista would just leave stuff alone and only mess with its own partition
[20:16] <derspankster> I cannot install the nvidia x driver
[20:16] <ace_suares> alex1: thaty would be no fun !
[20:17] <h4L1m> !nvidia | derspankster
[20:17] <ubot3> derspankster: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:17] <etronik> ace_suares: exactly I did! somehow it aint booting from CDROM ... :-(
[20:17] <alex1> ace_suares, yes indeed
[20:17] <ace_suares> etronik: did you chcek your BIOS ?!
[20:17] <h4L1m> etronik, do you have a cdrom drive? :P
[20:17] <PCcertified> ace_suares:  not for this install.  Please take a look at the instructions for me, I think it's telling me to compile the kernel...https://groups.google.com/group/microdia/web/testing-microdia-driver-draft
[20:17] <selven_> h4L1m, hahahahaha
[20:18] <Steve-Cal> alex1: That would violate Microsoft's policy of trying to take over your entire computer. :)
[20:18] <danf> :)
[20:18] <etronik> ace_suares: yes I did! tell me, can a CDROM drive be on the IDE Secondary slave controller and still be bootable ? or does it need to be on the primary controller ?
[20:18] <derspankster> h4L1m, yes, thanks, but when I enable the restricted driver all I get upon reboot is a blank screen
[20:18] <danf> hi
[20:18] <xlizard> ok, i have a small problem, hope sombody can help: i have an umts-modem at ttyUSB0, networkmanager gives me possibility to controll ist, after setup i had to change etc/ppp/peers/ppp0 and add noauth and chatscript. now i can connect nut network-manager does not see it and still says disconnected. result applikations like firefox and evolution starts in offline-mode ;(
[20:18] <MrObvious> Yggdrasil: Hmm. You could always sudo apt-get remove bcm43xx-fwcutter
[20:18] <h4L1m> etronik, on the splash screen while starting your pc, it says press a button to configure bios or something like that, then you go to the boot options and bring your cdrom drive on the first place
[20:18] <MrObvious> Yggdrasil: It won't get wi-fi working but at least it'll fix apt.
[20:19] <PCcertified> etronik: depends on your BIOS
[20:19] <etronik> h4L1m: I did that !! :-)
[20:19] <danf> just have a single question, it's about dm-crypt (full disk encryption)
[20:19] <ace_suares> etronik: depends on you bios, most modern pc's it can
[20:19] <h4L1m> etronik, i would check that cd on another machine
[20:19] <h4L1m> etronik, tried that out?
[20:19] <danf> must i install it before ubuntu, or once ubuntu is installed ?
[20:19]  * afallenhope is back (gone 12:30:50)
[20:19] <ace_suares> PCcertified: hmmm seems the instructiions are far to complicated
[20:19] <DanaG> Argh, NetworkManager sucks!
[20:20] <danf> may sound like a noob question ^_^;
[20:20] <etronik> h4L1m: not yet ! damm it ! a simple upgrade is turning into a mess !
[20:20] <DanaG> It can't handle roaming!
[20:20] <h4L1m> derspankster, do you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[20:20] <DanaG> It can't comprehend the idea of different access points with the same SSID.
[20:20] <ace_suares> PCcertified: but if you just follow the instructions, then in the end you will have the .ko file (which is the driver
[20:20] <h4L1m> :D
[20:20] <ace_suares> and you don't have to reinstall your kernel
[20:20] <DanaG> I roam.... and it still thinks I'm connected to the old SSID.
[20:20] <ace_suares> PCcertified: but I would think the kernel-headers shoudl be sufficient
[20:20] <danf> did somebody saw my question
[20:20] <danf> ?
[20:21] <danf> see*
[20:21] <xlizard> danf, full disc encryption is not simple ... you need something to boot from and load keys etc
[20:21] <h4L1m> derspankster, give me the name of the nvidia drivers you're trying to install
[20:21] <perlmonkey> hi
[20:21] <xlizard> but, google is your friend ;)
[20:21] <danf> xlizard ty. Yes a preboot loader
[20:21] <perlmonkey> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 8.04 on a new system (Dual Core) from CD, but it hangs at language selection stage.. tried a few times, always hangs at that point. CD was tested ok and used successfully on another PC. any ideas?
[20:21] <derspankster> h4L1m, nvidia glx-new
[20:21] <Benzap_> o cool i got it working
[20:21] <Steve-Cal> DanaG: That can happen if they have different "MAC" addresses, i.e. different hardware addresses.
[20:21] <ace_suares> PCcertified: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=569252 post # 5 might help !?
[20:22] <h4L1m> derspankster, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[20:22] <Erosion> What's the command to copy a file in terminal?
[20:22] <dskduq> hello all
[20:22] <derspankster> h4L1m, fresh install of Hardy
[20:22] <Flannel> perlmonkey: Try the ubiquity-only option
[20:22] <danf> xlizard google ? never heared about it :<
[20:22] <DanaG> They're different access points, but it doesn't realize it's gone out of range of one and into the range of another.
[20:22] <Flannel> Erosion: cp
[20:22] <danf> ^^
[20:22] <Erosion> Flannel: cp oldfile newfile?
[20:22] <derspankster> h4L1m, card is a geforce 6600
[20:22] <Flannel> Erosion: yep
[20:22] <perlmonkey> Flannel: thanks, what is that? how do use it?
[20:22] <ace_suares> perlmonkey: did you try memory test !!!!
[20:22] <DanaG> One complication: the different APs are on different subnets, even though they have the same SSID.
[20:22] <DanaG> That's not all that uncommon of a setup, I'd think..... but it doesn't WORK!
[20:22] <Erosion> Thank You, Flannel
[20:23] <xlizard> danf, i found much of "encypt root-fs" howtos
[20:23] <perlmonkey> ace_suares: i didnt do a memory test on the system no
[20:23] <selven_> ubuntu-xen-server: Depends: linux-xen but it is not installable !!!! WHAT
[20:23] <perlmonkey> will the standard ubuntu 8.04 work with a dual core?
[20:23] <ace_suares> perlmonkey: it's part of the cd try it if you can
[20:23] <danf> xlizard i was just kidding. And ok i'll check this out :)
[20:23] <perlmonkey> ace_suares: when I boot the PC tho it goes straight into install and doesn't give me any menu or options
[20:23] <selven_> xen isn't supported on ubuntu anymore????
[20:23] <ace_suares> perlmonkey: even with a 64-core :-)
[20:23] <danf>  well ty for the help any way !
[20:24] <danf> +++
[20:24] <perlmonkey> cool
[20:24] <h4L1m> derspankster, you tried to type "sudo nvidia-xconfig" ?
[20:24] <etronik> guys! can I configure grub to boot from CDROM ?? can anyone help me set that up ?
[20:24] <DanaG> So... if I walk around on campus, my connection randomly breaks.
[20:24] <DanaG> And it thinks it's still working... but it's not.
[20:24] <ace_suares> perlmonkey: what cd are you using ? Use the alternate cd if needed
[20:24] <h4L1m> derspankster, i think this is a config tool of nvidia's drivers
[20:24] <DanaG> I have to manually re-select the network in nm-applet each time I move around!
[20:24] <Flannel> perlmonkey: At the boot menu (when you first boot the CD), select "Install Ubuntu" instead of STart the Live System (or whatever it is).  That'll throw you straight into the installer.
[20:24] <perlmonkey> ace_suares: just the standard CD
[20:24] <xlizard> danf, you have to install it on a crypted disk ... so dm-crypt while instalation ... debing supports that ... ubuntu ... didnt tryed it ;)
[20:24] <alastair1> if "for x in *.jpg" gets all files with a jpg extension, how do I get all files with no extension?
[20:24] <derspankster> h4L1m, yes. Actually, system says that nvidia-glx-new is installed but when I try to enable is X fails and I have to fall back to nv
[20:25] <ace_suares> etronik: no, you cna't, it needs to boot from the cd and if that doesnt work either your bios, your cd or your drive is bothced.
[20:25] <Joe_CoT> hey, anyone know how to boot a cdrom from grub menu
[20:25] <perlmonkey> Flannel: no boot screen or menu comes up, perhaps it doesn't get that far? it says loading... then it puts up a select country/language menu
[20:25] <ace_suares> Joe_CoT: see etronik answer
[20:25] <nano_> how can i prevent windows from sliding underneath my gnome-top-panel?
[20:26] <xlizard> ok, nobody who knows why network-manager says my ppp0 is offline even if i can use it?
[20:26] <Flannel> Joe_CoT: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD-ROM.html
[20:26] <alastair1> ace_suares: he joined after it
[20:26] <Flannel> perlmonkey: No no, this is at the very beginning.  Restart the computer.
[20:26] <ace_suares> alastair1: k cut and paste then :-)
[20:26] <PCcertified> well ace_suares I installed GIT and got the files for the install, I also installed all requirements to compile my kernel.  Also unTar's the linux sources as instructed, I'm concerned about recompiling kernel
[20:26] <alastair1> it's ok someone else answered
[20:26] <Fingerling_> yo
[20:26] <h4L1m> derspankster, so sudo nvidia-xconfig doesn't help you, right?
[20:26] <nano_> Flannel: whatsup
[20:26] <DanaG> Anybody know how to FIX networkmanager?
[20:26] <LogiTech> MrObvious ...i really need to know what kind of soundcard i have...will it support 2.1 logitech Z-2300 speakers or not...thats the main question...if i only get the name of the soundcard then i can find that out my self will it support or not
[20:26] <PCcertified> ace_suares: will check out that link
[20:26] <nano_> DanaG: what is ur problem?
[20:26] <derspankster> h4L1m, an attempt to install nvidia config results in the uninstallation of nvidia-glx-new
[20:27] <Flannel> Howdy nano_
[20:27] <DanaG> I stated above what my problem is.
[20:27] <ace_suares> PCcertified: weel you can recompile the kernel but you are not isntalling the new kernel just the .ko file
[20:27] <nano_> LogiTech: do the following: lspci
[20:27] <DanaG> before you entered.
[20:27] <s_spiff> selven_: hey.. i dunno what happened.. but its finally detected. I disabled.. tried the dmesg.. then again rebooted and enabled... and this time it's been detected in the manual configuration applet. thanks soo much for your help.
[20:27] <nano_> if its a pci sound card
[20:27] <Fingerling_> Anyone Using Ubuntu 8.04 and having Wireless Issues?
[20:27] <perlmonkey> Flannel: there is no very beginning thats what im trying to install.. when I boot the system, it says "loading..." and then 2 seconds later language selection comes up. theres no Ubuntu logo, no "install, test menu" etc which you normally see
[20:27] <nano_> DanaG: ok
[20:27] <nano_> Fingerling_: what kind of issues?
[20:27] <DanaG> In short: NetworkManger utterly fails at handling multiple access points with the same SSID.
[20:27] <ace_suares> perlmonkey: oh yeah thats tru with the new 8.04
[20:27] <MrObvious> LogiTech: Put the output of lspci in a pastebin and give me the link.
[20:27] <DanaG> ... at least when they're on different subnets, as they are at Cal Poly.
[20:27] <perlmonkey> :(
[20:27] <Flannel> perlmonkey: Oh, you're having trouble with *that* language select
[20:28] <perlmonkey> yes indeed
[20:28] <ace_suares> perlmonkey: try to burn another cd (mayeb it'w broken)
[20:28] <wabash> How can I start a shell under a different user?
[20:28] <perlmonkey> its fine
[20:28] <Joe_CoT> Flannel, ace_suaresl: I have grub installed. I'm sitting at a grub menu. I want to boot the cd, because the machine doesn't support booting from cd
[20:28] <Fingerling_> Keeping My Connection Alive...seem to lose it in Minutes
[20:28] <ace_suares> perlmonkey: or find some older cd with memtest on it
[20:28] <perlmonkey> i installed a system with it yesterday
[20:28] <h4L1m> derspankster, why that? i think it has to come with the nvidia drivers
[20:28] <Flannel> perlmonkey: I'm not sure what to tell you.  Try the alternate CD
[20:28] <nano_> DanaG: yeah i have also experienced that
[20:28] <perlmonkey> ok i will try alternate
[20:28] <ace_suares> perlmonkey: so i t *could* be the mem of this machine
[20:28] <xlizard> DanaG, of cause ... he trys to hop ... because it is ts same netzwork ...
[20:28] <LogiTech> First... what means "lspci" ???
[20:28] <derspankster> h4L1m, all I get from nvidia-xconfig is a warning about CorePointer not being specified explicitly
[20:28] <Flannel> Joe_CoT: Did you read that page?
[20:28] <perlmonkey> ace_suares: yeah its possible I guess
[20:28] <ace_suares> LogiTech: list pci deviced
[20:29] <AlessandroD> I had a network problem, I found the solution online, need help filling bug!
[20:29] <ace_suares> !lspci
[20:29] <Flannel> Joe_CoT: Oh, sorry.  right.
[20:29] <ubot3> Factoid lspci not found
[20:29] <nano_> DanaG: basically, when I change the name of my wireless network on my router, then it takes Network-Manager some time to readjust
[20:29] <DanaG> That's nothing like my issue, though.
[20:29] <perlmonkey> thanks guys, i will try what u suggested
[20:29] <LogiTech> ee..."lspci" to terminal?? ...sorry im confused
[20:29] <nano_> DanaG: try "wifi-radar" utility, its really neet
[20:29] <nano_> *neat
[20:29] <ace_suares> AlessandroD: got to launchpad.net, make an account, file a bug :-)
[20:29] <szgal> Does anyone here use Compiz-Fusion?
[20:29] <Jack_Sparrow> LogiTech You can man lspci or any commands to find out more info
[20:29] <nano_> Logitech: yes
[20:29] <ChArLeS_^> hey
[20:29] <wabash> anyone?
[20:29] <MrObvious> LogiTech: It's a command line command. Load a terminal and type it in and copy/paste the information to a pastebin website and then give me the URL.
[20:29] <ace_suares> LogiTech:open a terminal, type lspci !
[20:30] <Flannel> Joe_CoT: try `root (cd)\nchainloader +1\nboot\n`
[20:30] <derspankster> h4L1m, of course I have nvidia X server settings installed but it won't run because the driver can not be successfully enabled.
[20:30] <MrObvious> LogiTech: And please type mro and push Tab before you talk if you want to talk to me otherwise I wiill miss your posts.
[20:30] <Flannel> Joe_CoT: Although, it might be cd0
[20:30] <nano_> Logitech: lspci will list all your pci connected devices, which includes ur pci soundcard, if you are using a pci soundcard
[20:30] <AlessandroD> ace_suares, I have an account already, because I do translations. But I think the bug I have iss already reported. It's about the Realtek 8111B ethernet device
[20:30] <AlessandroD> ace_suares, what should be my procedure?
[20:30] <ace_suares> AlessandroD: shoe me the bug number :-)
[20:31] <DanaG> I end up having to re-select the network in nm-applet to get it working again.
[20:31] <PCcertified> ace_suares: my camera is 0c45:627b and is not located in those lists
[20:31] <Fingerling_> If I Keep IRC Open And Minimize It.... Wish I would have stayed with Gutsy
[20:32] <DanaG> That's not the problem.
[20:32] <MrObvious> LogiTech: pastebin.com
[20:32] <ace_suares> PCcertified: as lonk as you dont do 'make install'
[20:32] <MrObvious> LogiTech: Or there is a URL in the /topic
[20:32] <DanaG> The problem is that NetworkManager doesn't re-run dhclient on roaming access points!
[20:32] <xlizard> DanaG, i think, you hat to rename one network ... dont think that you can fix it to one ap-mac with networkmanager
[20:32] <h4L1m> derspankster, i used hardy for a few days and changed back to gutsy :)
[20:32] <h4L1m> derspankster, i'm sorry but i can't find something about this, please ask the channel
[20:32] <DanaG> It's a school network -- multiple access points, same SSID, different subnets.
[20:33] <PCcertified> ace_suares: so I can compile but just don't install it.
[20:33] <PCcertified> I see
[20:33] <ace_suares> derspankster: I use hardy on 3 machine,s very happy about it
[20:33] <ace_suares> PCcertified: yes
[20:33] <PCcertified> hope this works
[20:33] <nano_> DanaG: you can always run dhclient
[20:33] <AlessandroD> ace_suares, sorry, I don't have it handy. I had a tutorial link on Ubuntuforums
[20:33] <derspankster> h4L1m, Hardy is without a doubt, the absolute worst release i have seen in the past two years. I do certainly appreciate your help though
[20:33] <DanaG> I shouldn't HAVE TO DO THAT!
[20:33] <DanaG> It should do it automatically!
[20:33] <ace_suares> PCcertified: the instructions tell you not to install it just the driver.
[20:34] <LogiTech> MrObvious im in pastebin.com ... Syntax highlighting: ?   To highlight particular lines, prefix each line with @@?
[20:34] <Jack_Sparrow> derspankster If you rework your partitions for any reason in the future, create a second area for a second distro or a new release for testing so you maintain a stable working os
[20:34] <nano_> DanaG: but it doesn't.
[20:34] <derspankster> ace_suares, I'm running Hardy on my laptop without issue but it doesn't have a Nvidia card
[20:34] <ace_suares> derspankster: I think Edgy was absoulute the worst :-)
[20:34] <Steve-Cal> DanaG: I totally agree--you should demand a refund on your money, after all, ubuntu comes with an unconditional money-back guarantee.  :)
[20:34] <etronik> old spare CDROM on
[20:34] <h4L1m> derspankster, you're welcome
[20:34] <PCcertified> ace_suares: true
[20:35] <etronik> still boot failure ?? weird
[20:35] <ace_suares> derspankster: I have TWO nvidia Dual head cards :-) and they work find with 4 LCD screens :)
[20:35] <ace_suares> derspankster: on 64 bit tough.
[20:35] <DanaG> Upon roaming, it should try to ping the old gateway, and if it's not reachable, it should re-get an IP.
[20:35] <PCcertified> ace_suares: here goes nothing...
[20:35] <pim> Are you supposed to compile damn small linux yourself?
[20:35] <MrObvious> LogiTech: No, just copy the output from lspci from the terminal to the big text box and paste it in the text box, push Submit, and then give me the URL after you push submit.
[20:35] <xlizard> DanaG, than you can use command-line tools to set fix ap-mac
[20:35] <derspankster> ace_suares, I'm very happy for you but that doesn't help my situation.
[20:35] <ace_suares> derspankster: I had problems with nvidai opn 32 bit reported a bug
[20:35] <Yggdrasil> mrobvous thanks
[20:35] <Yggdrasil> bbl
[20:35] <Jack_Sparrow> DanaG You are at cal-poly.. (slo) was fun.. get someone to fix the source code for all of us..  Lots of talented people around
[20:35] <ercferret18> hi
[20:35] <ercferret18> bye
[20:35] <kushal1> Hello, I need a script that will automatically add about 140 movie clips onto a program called DeVeDe. I am running Ubuntu 8.04 on a Toshiba Satellite M55-S135. Please help. I have added about 70 clips by hand and it is not much fun. If I do it regularly, I fear I will get RSI or something. Control Click, shift click, and control A (select all) do not work on DeVeDe. Please help.
[20:35] <DanaG> Oh hell, I might as well do it myself.
[20:36] <DanaG> Or rather, try to, at least.
[20:36] <ace_suares> derspankster: annd what is you problem again ? you can zet the vesa driver in xorg.conf and then at least you have the gui running
[20:36] <Flannel> Joe_CoT: Actually, that doesn't seem to work.  When you're booting, hit 'e', then root ([tab] and see the list it gives you.  The internet seems to think that you can't (without chainloading through something else, SBM seems popular), but I could've sworn I remember reading that you could a good while ago.
[20:36] <nano_> DanaG: if an application doesn't work EXACTLY like you want it to....you have 2 options...a) fix code urself .......b) get another application!
[20:36] <derspankster> ace_suares, I can run vesa or nv but not nvidia
[20:36] <nano_> DanaG: u should try wifi-radar
[20:37] <DanaG> Does it run as a tray app?
[20:37] <DanaG> And work automatically?
[20:37] <LogiTech> MrObvious okei ill try
[20:37] <ace_suares> derspankster: and you installed nvidia with the restricted-frivers-mamnager ?
[20:37] <derspankster> ace_suares, yes
[20:37] <LogiTech> MrObvious and sorry for the pm...
[20:37] <ace_suares> derspankster: and it doesnt work, but you looked up thhe card and it was supported ?
[20:38] <nano_> DanaG: its not a tray app, but it can be configured to work automatically
[20:38] <LogiTech> MrObvious have you heard about logitech Z2300 speakers?
[20:38] <nano_> DanaG: it need not be a tray app, as u can put shortcuts anywhere
[20:38] <derspankster> ace_suares, I haven't specifically looked up my geforce 6600 but it worked fine in gutsy
[20:38] <DanaG> That's really not any improvement over the current situation.
[20:38] <MrObvious> LogiTech: Kinda. It should use a standard hookup.
[20:38] <ace_suares> derspankster: do llok if it is supported. Restricted rivers are not the same between all releases.
[20:39] <MrObvious> LogiTech: My guess is you are fine after a Google.
[20:39] <MrObvious> Holy crap
[20:39] <sinayoks> the problem comes from the vpn
[20:39] <ygor_abreu> cegopaiva: yeah mate..tell me...
[20:39] <CShadowRun> yay, botnet \o/
[20:39] <CShadowRun> or netsplit
[20:39] <CShadowRun> o.O
[20:39] <sinayoks> I think it's not handled properly
[20:39] <lmvalenzuela> you need to download the windows client
[20:39] <nano_> DanaG: u can try searching for other applications... there are prolly 100's of applications for wifi scanning type stuff...feel free to experiment
[20:39] <CShadowRun> DanaG wifi-radar is nice
[20:39] <ygor_abreu> cegopaiva: yeah mate..tell me...im br
[20:40] <s_spiff> Nattgew: need ur help again... I got the card detected..but doesn't seem to be working... the dmesg posted here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/16054/
[20:40] <cegopaiva> are you brazilian? where you from, brother?
[20:40] <LogiTech> MrObvious which speakers are you using?
[20:40] <derspankster> ace_suares, I'll take a look
[20:41] <ace_suares> derspankster: is it a 6600 GO or a 6600 (without GO)?
[20:41] <szgal> Does anyone here use Compiz-Fusion?
[20:41] <Jack_Sparrow> szgal We all do
[20:41] <ace_suares> derspankster:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=780777
[20:41] <DanaG> Can't use wicd package -- it'd deinstall ubuntu-desktop, and I won't do that.
[20:42] <derspankster> ace_suares, plain 6600
[20:42] <szgal> Jack_Sparrow, Well then perhaps you can answer this question, I have compiz-fusion working on my Ubuntu 8.04 box, I know how to use Emerald and Install Themes, my question is how do I get themes with all these cool animations... not just icon sets, and different colors?
[20:42] <nano_> szgal: /join #compiz-fusion
[20:42] <Jack_Sparrow> szgal They also have a channel of their own /join #compiz
[20:42] <szgal> nano_, nobody talks in their channel... no help
[20:42] <ace_suares> derspankster: http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[20:42] <Evkaz> Hello
[20:42] <Evkaz>  I have two ehernet providers. They has been connected to switch.I'm make command pon provider1 - no problem. But provider2 don't work - plog writers "autenfication failed".  It works better that way. :D
[20:42] <Jack_Sparrow> szgal Be patient.. they will show up
[20:43] <nano_> szgal: u should join that room and message Fryda
[20:43] <nano_> szgal: dont expect immediate feedback...
[20:43] <Nostie_> split... ENDS!
[20:43] <derspankster> ace_suares, looks like a nice tutorial - thanks - we'll see
[20:43] <ace_suares> derspankster: good luck !
[20:43] <szgal> nano_, he won't answer me because he is currently helping someone out already.... Believe, years of experience with linux I know the process is very slow
[20:44] <nano_> szgal: what is ur problem?
[20:44] <szgal> nano_, unless you already know it
[20:44] <szgal> nano_, no problem, why?
[20:44] <cwgannon> hello
[20:44] <derspankster> ace_suares, thanks - but the tutorial looks like it's for twin-view. Maybe some good things in there for me
[20:44] <nano_> szgal: oh, i thought u had a question or soemthing
[20:44] <nano_> szgal: i use compiz
[20:44] <cwgannon> i'm experiencing some problems with mp3 playback
[20:44] <ace_suares> derspankster: see also the italian site.
[20:44] <cwgannon> only files in my amarok collection will play; all others fail, no matter the program, no matter their location
[20:45] <szgal> nano_, it is not technical really, I have compiz-fusion working... I know how to use Emerald and get themes and it's great I love it
[20:45] <szgal> nano_, I just see all these YouTube videos of cool animations like burning windows and don't understand how those work... I'd like to test those out, but don't seem to understand where how to to get started with those
[20:45] <nano_> szgal: yes its pretty great....im not much of a gui guy, but i really like it
[20:46] <Jack_Sparrow> szgal Have you install ccsm
[20:46] <etronik> finally seem to be booting from CDROM !!
[20:46] <derspankster> ace_suares, OK, got it bookmarked - thanks for the info
[20:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm
[20:46] <ubot3> To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy), install 'simple-ccsm'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[20:46] <szgal> Jack_Sparrow, yes, I have cube/wobbly windows all that
[20:46] <pim> How would I format a drive?
[20:46] <cwgannon> only files in my amarok collection will play; all others fail, no matter the program, no matter their location... any help on this one, please?
[20:46] <kushal1> Hello, I need a script that will automatically add about 140 movie clips onto a program called DeVeDe. I am running Ubuntu 8.04 on a Toshiba Satellite M55-S135. Please help. I have added about 70 clips by hand and it is not much fun. If I do it regularly, I fear I will get RSI or something. Control Click, shift click, and control A (select all) do not work on DeVeDe. Please help.
[20:46] <nano_> szgal: you need to install ccsm, also, startup synaptic-package manager, search for compiz, and make sure all the plugins are also installed
[20:46] <s_spiff> anyone? I need help with a secondary ethernet card which isn't working...the dmesg posted here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/16054/
[20:46] <nano_> szgal: that fire thing come with a plugins package, no plugin=no fire thing
[20:47] <Jack_Sparrow> szgal See also   http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=5303   addl plugins
[20:47] <LogiTech> MrObvious ooh..okei :D but could u tell me why Most speakers i could say "all" speakers including "z2300" will
[20:47] <LogiTech> susurrous in time...when u use equalizers and other that kind stuff or if u use speakers over 80% loud
[20:47] <nano_> s_spiff: what exactly is ur problem...no detection?
[20:47] <Jack_Sparrow> szgal I compiled all of the plugins on that page and all worked on my nvidia
[20:47] <Steve-Cal> pim: maybe gparted would work for you?
[20:47] <szgal> nano_, the only plugins that did not work for me is: compiz-fusion-plugins-unofficial
[20:48] <szgal> Jack_Sparrow, compiz-fusion-plugins-unofficial is the only one that did not work for me
[20:48] <cwgannon> !how-to-find-somebody-who-will-listen-to-a-simple-problem
[20:48] <ubot3> cwgannon: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[20:48] <ace_suares> pim: formatting with mke2fs, for instance
[20:48] <s_spiff> nano_: that was the issue until now.. but now that it's detected, and after I've configured the ip add and all.. it still isn't allowing me to connect to my lan
[20:48] <szgal> Jack_Sparrow, I will try the link, thx
[20:48] <MrObvious> LogiTech: I don't understand your question.
[20:48] <nano_> szgal: yeah i don't think that worked well for me the last time i tried.....have you installed ccsm?
[20:48] <cwgannon> only files in my amarok collection will play; all others fail, no matter the program, no matter their location ... any suggestions?
[20:48] <nano_> s_spiff: how are you trying to connect to your lan?
[20:48] <szgal> nano_, yes, but for example I am sure you saw this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=684OLRsTrrs&feature=related
[20:48] <etronik> recuing my botched 8.04 upgrade - lets see how it goes
[20:49] <Jack_Sparrow> szgal I have floating windows and fish swimming inside semi-trans cube etc
[20:49] <user___> kushal1: for improving your karma you could submit a bug report for the thing (control+a)
[20:49] <s_spiff> nano_: basically I just wanna connect to the dc++ hubs and CS servers.. using a realtek ethernet card..i'm using the onboard ethernet card to connect to the net.. given by a different ISP
[20:49] <nano_> szgal: do you want the dock
[20:49] <ace_suares> etronik: waht was the problem with the booting cd ?
[20:49] <cwgannon> thanks for the help!!!!
[20:49] <kushal1> thanks user__, I will do that
[20:49] <Ekushey> ubuntu DVD has KDE in it too?
[20:50] <QuizMasterAsh> I am making a custom live disk of uuntu using remastersys, When I save the iso it gets saved under /home/remastersys , I wanna save ISO in my preffered location..How do I do this? Any Idea ?
[20:50] <szgal> Jack_Sparrow, ahh ha, so you do need to download these animations from somewhere... they are not out the box Compiz
[20:50] <ace_suares> Ekushey: no but you can install afterwards: apt-get install kde-desktop
[20:50] <nano_> s_spiff: dpaste.com me the output of you ifconfig command
[20:50] <szgal> nano_, I like the way that video has the windows appears, and disappearing
[20:50] <s_spiff> nano_:  okies
[20:50] <Ekushey> ace_suares: is there any DVD with GNOME and KDE together?
[20:50] <etronik> ace_suares: it did not like being connected to the slave slot of the secondary IDE controller- switched cables around and voila !! :-/
[20:50] <Jack_Sparrow> szgal Yes.. there are more available than the base or the base with ccsm
[20:50] <sinayoks> anyone has ever had problems with ssh X11 forward using a vpn ?
[20:50] <ace_suares> Ekushey: dont think so
[20:51] <nano_> szgal: what the cube?
[20:51] <ace_suares> etronik: hardware :-))))
[20:51] <kushal1> thanks user__, I will do that but how can I submit a bug report?
[20:51] <Ekushey> thanks ace_suares
[20:51] <szgal> nano_, no... the way his program windows appear... and then "magically" dissappear lol
[20:51] <ace_suares> !bug
[20:51] <ubot3> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[20:51] <s_spiff> nano_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16056/
[20:51] <ace_suares> !bug | kushal1
[20:51] <ubot3> kushal1: please see above
[20:52] <nano_> szgal: if you un-focus a window, there are many ways that compiz will allow you to have this window unfocesed, did you get ccsm.
[20:52] <etronik> guys! the rescue CD ias asking me about a device to use as root file system and giving me choices of /dev/sdaX  - what are these sda things ?
[20:52] <ace_suares> s_spiff: i thinkits a hardware problem. Are these Gb cards ?
[20:52] <szgal> nano_, yes I had the ccsm for sometime now
[20:52] <ace_suares> etronik: /dev/sda is you first scsi or sata disk
[20:52] <Jack_Sparrow> etronik those are your partitions
[20:52] <DaveKong> What does this command do? SKIP_CHECKS=yes compiz-manager
[20:52] <s_spiff> ace_suares: gb??
[20:53] <etronik> hmm how I know which one was my root partition ?
[20:53] <szgal> nano, how can I make the windows do what appears in that video then, some additional plugins must be downloaded I know
[20:53] <ace_suares> s_spiff: Gigabit
[20:53] <nano_> s_spiff: how is eth1 suppose to get ip address
[20:53] <ace_suares> etronik: just try them
[20:53] <etronik> ok
[20:53] <ace_suares> etronik: it will tell you :-)
[20:53] <QuizMasterAsh> *** I am making a custom live disk of uuntu using remastersys, When I save the iso it gets saved under /home/remastersys , I wanna save ISO in my preffered location..How do I do this? Any Idea ? ***
[20:53] <s_spiff> ace_suares: Gigabyte? well yea my motherboard is a gigabyte one.. but the ethernet card in question is a realtek one.
[20:53] <Jack_Sparrow> etronik a = first drive X = partition number
[20:53] <Joe_CoT> Flannel, it's cool, I found out my bios could do it after all. It just confused me by referring to the hard drive as "C:"
[20:53] <nano_> s_spiff: dynamically?
[20:53] <s_spiff> nano_: didn't understand you..
[20:53] <jitendra> sinayoks: i want to know if u want to connect to a remote machine and able to access X
[20:53] <ace_suares> s_spiff: not byte but bit
[20:53] <LogiTech> MrObvious ...sorry i cant make the question more correctly :D like i said b4 im not good in english =)
[20:53] <user___> kushal1: i think there is no batch option in this program. you would need to search for another, sorry
[20:54] <david__--> Hello,Can someone help me to get my microphone to work on Amsn?
[20:54] <s_spiff> nano_: oh noo.. fixed ip..
[20:54] <nano_> s_spiff: how are ip addresses assigned to eth1 , dynamially?   if so, did you run dhclient?
[20:54] <nano_> ohh okay
[20:54] <s_spiff> ace_suares: sorry newb here..
[20:54] <ace_suares> jitendra:  ssh -X machinename applicationname
[20:54] <sinayoks> jitendra: right
[20:54] <sinayoks> jitendra: that's what I want to do
[20:54] <ace_suares> jitendra:  maybe ssh -X machinename gnone-session for a full desktop
[20:54] <Xpistos> Does anybody have any good locations to find out some info about ssh
[20:54] <nano_> Xpistos: google
[20:54] <amrik> ace_suares: hey whats the real difference between ssh -X and ssh -Y?
[20:55] <amrik> ace_suares: the manpage is a bit vague
[20:55] <ace_suares> nano_: think the problem is on the link level
[20:55] <jitendra> sinayoks do u have konqueror
[20:55] <QuizMasterAsh> lagta hai baad me aana padegaa.. hehe
[20:55] <sinayoks> jitendra: yeah
[20:55] <ace_suares> nano_: the driver is working but the connection times out on the lower level (ehternet)
[20:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Xpistos https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[20:55] <ace_suares> amrik: ssh -Y ? diod you try ssh -Z ?
[20:55] <sinayoks> jitendra: my problem comes from how the vpn is handled by network-manager
[20:55] <LogiTech> MrObvious i got 1 more question =) thats more importand for me ...trying to make correct question
[20:55] <ace_suares> amrik: just joking
[20:55] <ace_suares> amrik: ssh -X is X-forwading
[20:56] <nano_> ace_suares: are you talking about s_spiff's eth1
[20:56] <ace_suares> nano_: yes
[20:56] <amrik> ace_suares: i think -Y forwards as well, but does something a little different with "trusted" x11 forwarding
[20:56] <jitendra> sinayoks. u can connect from konqueror to a remote machine with X using fish protocol. type<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:56] <ace_suares> amrik: sorry I am lost then ;-)
[20:56] <s_spiff> ace_suares: nano_ ok me confiused now.. what am i supposed to do?
[20:56] <jitendra> sinayoks. i don't have much idea about vpn handling
[20:56] <ace_suares> amrik: u are using ssh what is there to trust !?
[20:56] <LogiTech> MrObvious
[20:56] <Xpistos> Jack_Sparrow Thanks Captain
[20:56] <ace_suares> s_spiff: buy a new network card
[20:56] <sinayoks> jitendra: thanx
[20:56] <yeonhoo> what is the ftp program for ubuntu??
[20:57] <nano_> s_spiff: i thought you were not able to connect, or is it that you connection routinely times out?
[20:57] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[20:57] <yeonhoo> what is the ftp program for ubuntu?? i want to install one good..
[20:57] <ace_suares> yeonhoo: ftpzilla
[20:57] <s_spiff> ace_suares: ohh crap...
[20:57] <yeonhoo> ace_suares,  thank you :)
[20:57] <ace_suares> s_spiff: it's in the hardware somewhere
[20:57] <amrik> ace_suares: well you know that with X11 if someone on the remote machine can bypass filesystem permissions they can read your screen
[20:57] <s_spiff> nano_: no it doesn't time out ... very rarely.. like once in a bluemoon..
[20:57] <failure> http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1212262840085.gif LOLOL
[20:57] <ace_suares> s_spiff: I *think*
[20:57] <Ashfire908> Yesterday i plugged a ethernet cable into my server's second nic and now (even though i rtemoved the cable) i'm getting errors.
[20:57] <s_spiff> ace_suares: okies.. this card used to work like 2 months back.. dunno how it cud have conked off. :(
[20:57] <amrik> ace_suares: i think -X is the safer option, whereas -Y allows the screen to be trusted and do more I think
[20:57] <nano_> s_spiff: so ur having connection problems?
[20:58] <user___> failure: this goes into #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)
[20:58] <Starnestommy> yeonhoo: I think it's filezilla, not ftpzilla
[20:58] <yeonhoo> ace_suares,  there is a filezilla. is the same?
[20:58] <yeonhoo> Starnestommy, ahhh ok thank you :)
[20:58] <mistermocha> bleh...
[20:58] <etronik> so... if the upgrade from Dapper to Hardy crashed midway leaving me with unbootable system, how do I pickup the process or complete the upgrade process ?
[20:59] <s_spiff> nano_: nopes.. this card is only for my lan..so that i can play CS with my pals and all.. i don't use it for internet...i use the onboard lancard for internet provided by a ISP
[20:59] <ace_suares> yeonhoo: yeah sorry that's it !
[20:59] <etronik> I'm in the rescue CD, and I know that my prior / partition is in /dev/sda2
[20:59] <hacknslash> yeonhoo, gftp is good too
[20:59] <nano_> s_spiff: so you cannot connect to you CS servers?
[20:59] <nano_> s_spiff: and CS server is the only thing that is connected to you eth1?
[20:59] <s_spiff> nano_: i can't connect to anyone on my lan.. no dc++ hubs.. no nothing.
[21:00] <ace_suares> etronik: you say it CRASHED during upgrade ? What, power faiure ?
[21:00] <etronik> ace_suares: no.... the upgrade was in its last stages then the upgrade window just vanished....
[21:00] <Xpistos> Here is a good question: is anybody using MythTV either in ubuntu or with Mythbuntu? I am building a media center system and I am curioius about it. good, bad, ugly. What do you guys think about it
[21:01] <Leonidas_> hello everyone
[21:01] <amrik> etronik: if you cant boot, you may have to reinstall grub. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[21:01] <ace_suares> etronik: mayhbe you only need to reinstall grub...
[21:01] <etronik> but existing grub is fine
[21:01] <Leonidas_> i was wondering if there was a way to save a file with admin only privileges?  like a .txt file that can only be opened with sudo?
[21:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Xpistos Works great depending on the video card.. and they have a channel.. and I can link you to a good howto
[21:01] <ace_suares> etronik: so your system is working now now it statred off the cd ? GIU and all !?
[21:01] <etronik> the boot process hangs midway
[21:01] <ace_suares> etronik: most likey a grub reainstallw il do
[21:02] <ace_suares> etronik: fidn 'supergrubdisk' on google
[21:02] <usser> Xpistos, word is mythTV is THE multimedia center. one and only no more no less :)
[21:02] <ace_suares> etronik: use that :-)
[21:02] <etronik> I don't think so... but I'll try
[21:02] <Leonidas_>  i was wondering if there was a way to save a file with admin only privileges?  like a .txt file that can only be opened with sudo?
[21:02] <etronik> because the upgrade did not finish, so the system is in a undefined state....
[21:02] <nano_> s_spiff: i don't know
[21:02] <etronik> but I'll try the gru re-install
[21:02] <Xpistos> Thanks guys
[21:02] <evanderv> Hey guys
[21:02] <ace_suares> Leonidas_: chown root.root filename ; chmod u=rw,og= filename
[21:02] <Xpistos> Leonidas: Yasou
[21:02] <usser> Leonidas_, yes sure sudo chown root:root filename chmod..... ^^^
[21:03] <ace_suares> etronik: weel i don't think it is in enundefined state if it was almost done.
[21:03] <ace_suares> etronik: I hope for you !
[21:03] <evanderv> Hey my update manager is trying to update fontconfig but it comes up with errors and not sure why.
[21:03] <evanderv> The error is......
[21:04] <mistermocha> I just did a distro upgrade from edgy to feisty and am getting an error from apache when it attempts to load php modules
[21:04] <mistermocha> er... the php module
[21:04] <b4l74z4r> is there any way i can check that compiz is actually detecting the correct refresh rate when i have it set to autodetect?
[21:04] <Watermelon_m> hello
[21:04] <ace_suares> !question
[21:04] <ubot3> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:04] <ice63> how do i install nvidia driver in ubuntu ?
[21:04] <k12> punishment
[21:04] <ace_suares> !nvidia|ice63
[21:04] <ubot3> ice63: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:06] <fiXXXerMet> I just added a second NIC to my server - a Linksys card - and then configured /etc/network/interfaces.  When I go to restart /etc/init.d/networking, I get "Don't seem to be have all the variables for eth1/inet." ??
[21:06] <LogiTech> MrObvious if i comparale mp3 and ipod "sound power" when using pc speakers then i can say that mp3 dont give out that much sound power than ipod...ipod amplify over the sound but mp3 is very quiet...So now the question :D ...: How do i know ...will mp4 touch amplify the sound "enough" ?? like ipod do..."mp3" doesnt
[21:06] <evanderv> sorry here is the error I am getting with fontconfig install
[21:06] <evanderv> http://pastebin.com/d15395572
[21:06] <ace_suares> fiXXXerMet: use pastebin to paste your /etc/networking/interfaces
[21:06] <ace_suares> !pastebin| fiXXXerMet
[21:06] <ubot3> fiXXXerMet: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[21:07] <fiXXXerMet> ace_suares: http://pastebin.com/m8a46e29
[21:07] <fiXXXerMet> oops I see an error
[21:07] <keiserr> hiii, need some help ,http://pastebin.com/d7908ffb3
[21:07] <ace_suares> fiXXXerMet: netmast ? netmask !
[21:08] <swiftfoxer> hello, is there any way I can ensure that static ip's work on ubuntu? I've tried implementing it but it won't connect unless I use dhcp
[21:08] <ace_suares> fiXXXerMet: btw you dont' need the gateway line in ehth1
[21:08] <etronik> as I told you ;-) it simply wont boot !! Kernel panic - not syncing VFS (whatever that is)
[21:08] <nano_> is there an equivalent command to "nohup" for gnome?
[21:08] <etronik> unable to mount root fs
[21:08] <nano_> such that when i log out of gnome, the programs are still running?
[21:08] <etronik> brb
[21:08] <Ardorin> Anybody know how to get Clutch working?
[21:08] <ace_suares> swiftfoxer: deopends on what you ar econnectiong to. If the firewall or switch doesnt allow static ip's...
[21:08] <etronik> in fact bbl
[21:08] <fiXXXerMet> ahh poop, another error  "eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[21:09] <fiXXXerMet> Do I need to modprobe it?
[21:09] <ace_suares> fiXXXerMet: are you paying attention at all !?!?!?
[21:09] <user___> keiserr: file a report as suggested, even better check before if its already done. also you have all updates installed?
[21:09] <ace_suares> fiXXXerMet: you wrote netmast instead of netmask
[21:09] <ace_suares> fiXXXerMet: and you should remove the gateway line for eth1./
[21:09] <swiftfoxer> ace_suares: I am using static ip on this pc(not ubuntu). It works. I am only experiencing this problem on ubuntu
[21:09] <fiXXXerMet> ace_suares: I changed those two things. :)
[21:10] <ace_suares> fiXXXerMet: okayh do 'ip addr' and use pastebin.
[21:10] <ace_suares> fiXXXerMet: or '
[21:10] <notv> how do i check which platform i have?
[21:10] <Noxide> so im trying to get my broadcom wireless adapter working and im stuck. it says it recognizes it and according to the wiki it should be supported but it still wont connect.
[21:10] <s_spiff> ace_suares: nano_ hey..tried exchanging cables and excanhing the ip's assigned... still no success.. :(
[21:10] <fiXXXerMet> ace_suares: lo and eth0 are listed - no eth1
[21:10] <ace_suares> fiXXXerMet: or 'lspci | grep -i eth'
[21:10] <Morgie> anyone come across errors trying to update ubuntu 7.10? i keep getting errors trying to install updates to get to 8.04
[21:10] <notv> im not sure if i installed 64 or i386
[21:10] <fiXXXerMet> ok
[21:10] <notv> is there some sort of command i can type into a terminal?
[21:11] <user___> notv: uname -a
[21:11] <Starnestommy> notv: uname -m
[21:11] <fiXXXerMet> ace_suares: Not showing up in lspci, so maybe it'sa bad card.
[21:11] <swiftfoxer> at the moment I can't even load up my router page on ubuntu
[21:11] <fiXXXerMet> Let me try another one.
[21:11] <ace_suares> fiXXXerMet: well if it's not in lspci then nothing can be done ;-)
[21:11] <notv> thanks
[21:11] <fiXXXerMet> aye - I forgot all about that command!
[21:11] <Noxide> does anyone know how to install BCM43xx-fwcutter (apt) ?
[21:11] <ace_suares> swiftfoxer: how did you set the fixed ip ?
[21:12] <ace_suares> swiftfoxer: command line or network manager ?
[21:12] <afallenhope> is there a reason why I can't play mp3 cds?
[21:12] <jitendra> ace_suares: sudo ifconfig ethx xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[21:12] <ace_suares> etronik: did you reintall grub ? and did you check it /boot/grub/menu.lst has all the correct partitions listed ?
[21:12] <keri> ANYONE CAN HELP....what do i do after i load the winxp wireless drivers into my windows wireless drivers app for ubuntu.  i rebooted and it still isnt detecting the ap
[21:13] <Steve-Cal> Noxide: The last I read at the help.ubuntu.com website, the bcm43xx modules all ready come with Hardy. Are you using Hardy?
[21:13] <ace_suares> jitendra: what was that again !? it's not the good way to do it with ifconfig
[21:13] <afallenhope> keri: have you initiated the card?
[21:13] <keri> afallenhope, nope just did what i said
[21:13] <neonprophet> does anyone know why 8.04 won't mount a damn dvd/cd? everytime I upgrade it hoses up my system again....
[21:13] <afallenhope> Steve-Cal: the bcm43xx is replace by the b43 in hardy
[21:13] <swiftfoxer> ace_suares: network manager
[21:13] <keri> its listed in lspci
[21:13] <javagamer> My computer shuts down instantly when play steam games through wine and when running memtest or my MBs memory test.  This is a new problem and I already tried updating by MB, but so far nothing has changed.  Does anyone know what might be wrong?
[21:14] <Noxide> Steve-Cal: Yes im using hardy. And that is why I'm not sure why it wont work. I seem to have lost my network manager from my taskbar too.
[21:14] <ace_suares> swiftfoxer: can you do 'ip addr' and use pastebin ?
[21:14] <ace_suares> !pastebin | swiftfoxer
[21:14] <ubot3> swiftfoxer: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[21:14] <afallenhope> keri: you have to initiate the card. type suo ifconfig <interface> up
[21:14] <keri> afallenhope, ok
[21:14] <dyerseve> does anyone know how to make mount -t cifs use netbios name resolution instead of dns?
[21:14] <Steve-Cal> afallenhope: Thanks for the correction--do you know where that info might be posted at help.ubuntu.com so I can use it as reference?
[21:14] <swiftfoxer> (btw my responses will be slightly slow, going back and forth here. Update: eth0 works fine on static ip, just gotta plug in. eth1 is the one with the problem)
[21:15] <keri> afallenhope, how do i tell which one it is. eth0 or eth1?
[21:15] <afallenhope> eth0 = ethernet LAN and eth1 = ndsiwrapper
[21:15] <swiftfoxer> ace_suares: gimme a bit, I gotta go back and forth here
[21:15] <afallenhope> so youtype sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[21:15] <Yggdrasil> what would be the best version of ubuntu for a cli only production system ?
[21:15] <swiftfoxer> afallenhope: not in my case, eth0 = gblan1, eth1 = gblan2 in my case :)
[21:15] <afallenhope> Yggdrasil: Ubuntu server
[21:16] <Yggdrasil> oops
[21:16] <ace_suares> Yggdrasil: dapper or hardy
[21:16] <afallenhope> Yggdrasil: or possible Xubuntu
[21:16] <keri> error no such device
[21:16] <lukehasnonam2> Ubuntu Server Hardy
[21:16] <ace_suares> dyerseve: maybe this will help ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288534
[21:16] <keri> how do i list ethernet devices
[21:16] <afallenhope> ifconfig -a
[21:16] <razaccour> is it possible to turn ubuntu into debian in the command line?
[21:16] <afallenhope> keri:  check your pm
[21:16] <Starnestommy> razaccour: no
[21:16] <Yggdrasil> im on server fiesty
[21:17] <user___> razaccour: nope
[21:17] <ace_suares> keri: lspci | grep -i eth
[21:17] <ace_suares> razaccour: don't think so.
[21:17] <afallenhope> ace_suares: ifconfig -a
[21:17] <razaccour> thanks
[21:17] <notv> hey
[21:17] <afallenhope> ace_suares: that's easier if he doesn't know what he's doing
[21:17] <swiftfoxer> ace_suares: the inet field is missing in eth1's interface. Know anyway how I can fix it?
[21:17] <k13> www.google.pl
[21:17] <user___> razaccour: what problem are you trying to solve, btw?
[21:17] <ace_suares> afallenhope: thatg shows devices that have a driver :-)
[21:17] <Yggdrasil> ace_squares im on feisty server
[21:18] <notv> am i still connected?
[21:18] <keri> ok mine is wlan0
[21:18] <Starnestommy> notv: yes
[21:18] <afallenhope> ace_suares: I know.. he's using the ndiswrapper
[21:18] <keri> and i did the up command
[21:18] <ace_suares> swiftfoxer: you can always edit by hand, i tought you were going to pastebin it ?
[21:18] <afallenhope> keri: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[21:18] <notv> okay there it goes
[21:18] <keri> yup that one afa
[21:18] <ace_suares> afallenhope: okay, i don't know nothing of that, leave it to you !
[21:18] <MFen> does anyone out thre know how to set up bridged networking in hardy? it just does not seem to work with that ath0 freaky ass interface,
[21:18] <swiftfoxer> ace_suares: it's on another pc, not exactly connected atm
[21:18] <notv> has anyone had any luck with atheros ar5007eg wireless cards and ubuntu?
[21:19] <MFen> and i can't find any guide to bridged neworking that even *talks about* what that crazy ath0 does or how it affects it
[21:19] <Steve-Cal> afallenhope: About the bcm43xx, is this page out-of-date then? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[21:19] <keri> no errors so i guess i reboot now/?
[21:19] <notv> on an x64 version that is
[21:19] <Manad> Hi. anyone here use Thunderbird?
[21:19] <afallenhope> keri:  yes
[21:19] <ace_suares> swiftfoxer: you can always edit /etc/network/interfaces
[21:19] <afallenhope> Steve-Cal: I have an easiser method
[21:19] <swiftfoxer> ace_suares: thanks
[21:19] <keri> ok thankjs i might be back
[21:19] <ace_suares> ppl I gotta go. 't was fun ! Seeing so many people online !
[21:19] <Steve-Cal> afallenhope: Which is?...
[21:19] <Noxide> cya ace
[21:19] <afallenhope> it's on my site
[21:19] <afallenhope> lol.
[21:20] <afallenhope> Manad: I do
[21:20] <MFen> every time i've tried to follow one of the guides, tey always say "run /etc/init.d/networking restart" but i know that just breaks my networking
[21:20] <axisys> why does ubuntu force me to install exim when I am trying to install mailx?
[21:20] <axisys> is there a way around?
[21:20] <afallenhope> Steve-Cal: http://www.aircrack.com/doku.php?id=b43
[21:20] <Starnestommy> axisys: mailx might need exim
[21:20] <ace_suares> axisys: apt-get install postfix first :-)
[21:20] <MFen> axisys: i think it just wants an smtp daemon. try installing postfix or something, if you just don't like exim
[21:20] <notv> can anyone help me with an atheros ar5007eg wireless card on x64?
[21:21] <Manad> afallenhope, did you notice that deleting emails from the Inbox (and then Trash folder) does not delete them from the profile folder's data file? They can still be seen if you open the "database" with a text editor. Did you see this, or is it just me?
[21:21] <afallenhope> notv: what do you nee
[21:21] <fiXXXerMet> ace_suares: OK, both Ethernet Controllers are showing up in lspci, but the system only sees eth0
[21:21] <ace_suares> axisys: but did you want mailutils instead of mailx !?
[21:21] <axisys> MFen, ace_suares so that will give me mailx ?
[21:21] <axisys> ace_suares: yes if that works to send an email
[21:21] <notv> afallenhope: i need a driver for it
[21:21] <axisys> ace_suares: w/o installing a MTA
[21:21] <MFen> axisys: no, it (should) satisfy one of the requirements of mailx, so that exim doesn't have to be installed
[21:21] <axisys> ace_suares: like postfix/exim
[21:21] <ace_suares> fiXXXerMet: paste the two lines thatg list the ethernet cards !
[21:21] <user___> ahm, sorry, i am caught in my guest fullscreen window, how can i leave it (right-control+g doesnt work)?
[21:22] <ace_suares> axisys: you cant use 'mail' without an MTA
[21:22] <MFen> axisys: posfix is just a different MTA
[21:22] <fiXXXerMet> ace_suares: http://pastebin.com/m33d7a8f6
[21:22] <user___> ahm, sorry, i am caught in my virtualbox guest fullscreen window, how can i leave it (right-control+g doesnt work)?
[21:22] <ace_suares> fiXXXerMet: obviously you have to google if the drivers are there for thos cards..
[21:22] <axisys> ace_suares: but u dont need an MTA to send mail..
[21:22] <axisys> ace_suares: mailutils is small ?
[21:23] <Steve-Cal> afallenhope: That webpage you sent has nothing to do with bcm43xx....
[21:23] <jitendra> sinayoks: just wanted to know if ur problem with ssh is solved?
[21:23] <MFen> axisys: MTA stands for "mail transfer agent". you DO need an MTA to send mail. :P
[21:23] <axisys> ace_suares: i can telnet to an smtp server and send the email
[21:23] <axisys> MFen: ^^
[21:23] <MFen> axisys: then you are acting as the MTA
[21:23] <sinayoks> jitendra: nope, still looking on the web
[21:23] <axisys> MFen: yes.. and mailutils can do that?
[21:23] <keri> afallenhope, welp im back and it didnt work
[21:23] <afallenhope> Steve-Cal: because the bcm43xx is deprecated. it's outdated. it's been replaced with the b43
[21:23] <MFen> axisys: i dunno. mailx isn't the only way to send email from the command line
[21:23] <jitendra> sinayoks: didn't fish protocol work for u
[21:24] <MFen> axisys: i wrote one in python in about an hour a couple of months ago
[21:24] <afallenhope> keri: what kind of card is it
[21:24] <ace_suares> axisys: sorry what is mailx for ? is that to be able to do 'grep FAILED /var/log/syslog | mail root@yourmnachine ' ?
[21:24] <axisys> MFen: ofcourse not.. but pretty light and i had been using it..
[21:24] <axisys> ace_suares: exactly!
[21:24] <MFen> axisys: let it install exim. who cares?
[21:24] <afallenhope> Manad: I never had an issue like that sorry it  too so long
[21:24] <keri> afallenhope, an asus.  it even has linux drivers but i dont know how to install red hat version on ubuntu
[21:24] <ace_suares> MFen: apt-get install axisys-mta :-)
[21:24] <sinayoks> jitendra: just a sec
[21:24] <Manad> afallenhope, ok, no worries
[21:24] <axisys> ace_suares: :P
[21:24] <afallenhope> keri: it's an asus wireless card?
[21:25] <keri> afallenhope, yes
[21:25] <sinayoks> jitendra: i forgot i didn't have konqueror on this box
[21:25] <afallenhope> Anyone know why I can't get my mp3 cd to play?
[21:25] <sinayoks> jitendra: i'm installing it now to have a go
[21:25] <axisys> MFen: hmm i would rather use a python or perl if that does not require any postfix or exim libs
[21:25] <ace_suares> axisys: you can not have 'mail' command without an MTA.. sorry... on  a local system exim is as good as postfix.
[21:25] <MFen> axisys: it doesn't.  exim is probably smaller than python, though.  :P
[21:25] <icqnumber> !mp3 | afallenhope
[21:25] <ubot3> afallenhope: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:25] <keri> afallenhope, a wl-107 wireless ap card
[21:26] <jitendra> sinayoks: do give it a try. might work. coz i myself was troubled with this for a long time when this solution finally worked for me
[21:26] <axisys> MFen: but i already have python
[21:26] <axisys> ace_suares: i know .. i just wanted send mail.. so which is smaller? exim or python ?
[21:26] <Marlboro> brb
[21:27] <mynyml> is there someone with enough .deb packaging fu to comvert (i guess just recompile) a small amd64 package to 32bits?
[21:27] <dragon64> fallen hope, what happens when you try and play your disk?
[21:27] <mynyml> *convert
[21:27] <amrik> mynyml: what package is this?
[21:27] <mynyml> amrik: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4945143&postcount=998
[21:28] <axisys> achilles, MFen should I just choose satelite system?