[00:16] <Sachse_Siechtum> hello subspider
[00:21] <subspider> hello Sachse_Siechtum how are you
[00:21] <subspider> ??
[00:21] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm fine, thanks. Just reading about the WINE history :-)
[00:29] <Sachse_Siechtum> subspider, good night
[00:32] <subspider> Sachse_Siechtum, good night man nice story hehehehe
[01:04] <haywire> Anyone familiar with GDMsetup in xubuntu 9.10?
[03:29] <rsyring> du is giving me errors for folders in my home directory.  They say "cannot read directory" and "permission denied".  But I have rwx permission on those folders.  Thoughts?
[07:43] <Balsaq> good evening.
[08:57] <MalfermitaKodo> Hi
[08:58]  * MalfermitaKodo is struggling to get the control key set up...
[08:59] <MalfermitaKodo> When I type "setxkbmap -option compose:caps" in a shell, it works, but not at login
[09:01] <mertle> MalfermitaKodo: tried adding it to autostarted apps?
[09:02] <MalfermitaKodo> mertle: how?
[09:03] <mertle> MalfermitaKodo: in the menu applications-settings
[09:11] <MalfermitaKodo> ty
[09:11] <MalfermitaKodo> found it
[09:12] <mertle> MalfermitaKodo: well done :)
[09:13] <MalfermitaKodo> Thank you!
[09:59] <plouffe> I recently did a fresh install of xubuntu, and now it doesn't recognize any filenames that contain any special characters such as Chinese, French , .. Any solution?
[10:10] <TheSheep> plouffe: "doesn't recognize"?
[10:11] <plouffe> it shows them as "?????"
[10:11] <plouffe> the characters are being replaced by question marks
[10:11] <TheSheep> which application?
[10:11] <plouffe> Thunar, Totem, ls command
[10:11] <plouffe> everything basically
[10:11] <TheSheep> in your home, or on some external disk?
[10:12] <plouffe> it's a vfat partition on my computer
[10:12] <TheSheep> ah, vfat
[10:13] <TheSheep> add an option specifying the encoding
[10:13] <TheSheep> to the mount command
[10:13] <TheSheep> or to your fstab
[10:13] <TheSheep> !vfat
[10:13] <plouffe> thanks
[11:59] <jarnos> I am trying to use festival for speech  syntetization in jaunty, but command "festival --tts test.txt" gives Linux: can't open /dev/dsp
[11:59] <jarnos> so no sound :(
[12:01] <psycho_oreos> I think /dev/dsp is part of the old oss package, and can be possibly installed via getting alsa-oss
[12:02] <jarnos> psycho_oreos: i tried, but no luck
[12:03] <psycho_oreos> jarnos, no /dev/dsp? ?
[12:07] <jarnos> psycho_oreos: still "Linux: can't open /dev/dsp"
[12:10] <psycho_oreos> jarnos, I meant do you have an /dev/dsp? interfaces i.e. /dev/dsp{1-9}, etc
[12:12] <jarnos> psycho_oreos: I have /dev/dsp
[12:12] <psycho_oreos> jarnos, and is that a symlink or actual device?
[12:13] <jarnos> psycho_oreos: actual
[12:14] <psycho_oreos> jarnos, hmm it might be a perms issue, maybe festival has its own user or you need to join audio group or something like that
[12:15] <psycho_oreos> jarnos, try running festival as root
[12:16] <jarnos> psycho_oreos: no help
[12:16] <psycho_oreos> jarnos, which one, festival as root?
[12:17] <jarnos> psycho_oreos: yes
[12:18] <psycho_oreos> jarnos, try simple commands like echo "some words" | festival --tts
[12:27] <jarnos> psycho_oreos: same issue
[12:35] <psycho_oreos> jarnos, I don't have a clue then, it could be badly installed/configured alsa-oss
[12:36] <psycho_oreos> or maybe pulseaudio is meddling with it
[12:38] <jarnos> psycho_oreos: I don't have pulseaudio running in jaunty. Is pulseaudio default already in jaunty? It seems to be in lucid testing version.
[12:39] <jarnos> I have these installed, though: gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 vlc-plugin-pulse
[12:39] <psycho_oreos> pulseaudio already is in jaunty and..
[12:40] <psycho_oreos> !lucid
[12:48] <jarnos> psycho_oreos: pulseaudio has been in used in latest Ubuntu releases, but are you sure it has been used as default in any Xubuntu release to date? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/KarmicKoala/Final does not have a word about pulse
[12:49] <psycho_oreos> !info pulseaudio
[12:50] <psycho_oreos> I don't know of any versions prior to jaunty but I can confirm from jaunty there is already pulseaudio
[12:50] <psycho_oreos> pulseaudio being default
[12:51] <jarnos> psycho_oreos: so "ps aux | grep [p]ulseaudio" gives something?
[12:51] <psycho_oreos> jarnos, provided that its running, I hacked mine ouut
[12:51] <psycho_oreos> out*
[12:54] <jarnos> psycho_oreos: It seems like I have hacked mine out, too. I can't remember everything.
[13:27] <mr_pouit> psycho_oreos: pulseaudio isn't used by default in xubuntu
[17:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello Sysi  *cuddles* :-)
[17:09] <Sysi> ohai
[17:12] <Sachse_Siechtum> Sysi, how you doin?
[17:18] <Sysi> as usual
[17:33] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah :-)
[17:33] <Sachse_Siechtum> I was just leading the judo kids group... that was stressful *g*
[17:37] <Sysi> so you're not real nerd :p
[17:43] <Sachse_Siechtum> uhm no? Well I might be a nerd when it comes to women...well you wouldnt notice it by my looks (long hair...metal guy type)
[17:43] <knome> lol
[17:44] <Sysi> i'm propably nolifest guy you can find, even that i don't do programming or gaming
[17:44] <knome> Sysi, lie
[17:45] <Sysi> maybe, but not badly
[17:45] <Sachse_Siechtum> nolifest?
[17:46] <Sysi> most no-life
[17:46] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm a big gamer....
[17:46] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah
[17:46] <Sachse_Siechtum> I live in a small town, so...
[17:46] <knome> i can't understand that gamer-metalhead-type
[17:46] <knome> :P
[17:46] <Sachse_Siechtum> knome, why not?
[17:46] <knome> just can't
[17:47] <knome> even if i try to get a grip of what moves in their (your) heads, can't
[17:47] <Sysi> that's my second or third definition for nerd
[17:47] <Sachse_Siechtum> its easy...first I found computer games when I was 12 and when I was 18/19 I discovered metal music *g*
[17:47] <Sachse_Siechtum> Sysi,  LOL
[17:48] <Sysi> first is that my type, oldschool
[17:48] <knome> "i must listen to boring music with vocals i can't understand, oh, and i have to play counterstrike, i'm so kewl"
[17:48] <Sysi> thin and glasses
[17:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> I dunno the "true" def. of a metal guy...I'm pretty calm, mostly...
[17:48] <Sachse_Siechtum> lol
[17:48] <knome> Sachse_Siechtum, dresses in black leather, despises anybody who listen to anything else than metal
[17:48] <Sysi> knome: cs:s is for little boys with too big trousers
[17:49] <Sachse_Siechtum> knome, nope.... as long as kids dont stress me with loud music out of their cellphones...
[17:49] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm good
[17:49] <Sachse_Siechtum> I dont play cs *g*
[17:49] <Sachse_Siechtum> its boring
[17:49] <knome> and if they do, you say "MURGH!" ?
[17:49] <Sachse_Siechtum> I play DoD
[17:49] <Sachse_Siechtum> no, I judo throw the guy with the cell phone. *laughs*
[17:49] <Sysi> pretty many of metal fans i know listen europop also :)
[17:50] <knome> okay, a metal guy.
[17:50] <Sachse_Siechtum> europop is too much of generic...
[17:50] <Sysi> knome: i don't *look* like metal guy but i am one
[17:50] <knome> Sysi, bah :P
[17:50] <Sysi> np: Disturbed - Fear
[17:50] <Sachse_Siechtum> when I hear eurpop I think of bad 90s mainstream techno with vocals
[17:51] <Sachse_Siechtum> Sysi, YEEEAAH! :-)
[17:51] <Sysi> that makes it awesome
[17:51] <Sysi> expecially at 3am
[17:51] <Sachse_Siechtum> np: Epica - Incentive
[17:51] <Sachse_Siechtum> LOL
[17:51] <knome> np: Thirteen Senses – Under the Sun
[17:52] <Sachse_Siechtum> speaking of Metal...
[17:52] <knome> yeah, i definitely do not understand you metalheads.
[17:52] <Sachse_Siechtum> Sysi, do you know Type O Negaive?
[17:52] <Sysi> one lad tried to tease me with some tough black metal, i liked it
[17:52] <Sachse_Siechtum> negative
[17:52] <Sysi> i don't think so
[17:52] <Sachse_Siechtum> I dont like black metal much
[17:52] <Sachse_Siechtum> the singer of T O N died yesterday
[17:52] <Sachse_Siechtum> heart attack...he got 48
[17:53] <Sachse_Siechtum> :-(
[17:53] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm more for gothic metal...
[17:53] <Sachse_Siechtum> but I also like Queen
[17:53] <Sysi> i listen practically anything
[17:53] <Sachse_Siechtum> :-)
[17:53] <knome> Sysi, m. a. numminen?
[17:53] <Sachse_Siechtum> also listen to some electronic stuff...
[17:54] <Sachse_Siechtum> hello charlie-tca  :-)
[17:54] <Sysi> knome: anything but "iskelmä"
[17:54] <Sachse_Siechtum> charlie-tca, *cuddles*
[17:54] <charlie-tca> Hello, Sachse_Siechtum
[17:54] <Sachse_Siechtum> :-)
[17:54] <knome> Sachse_Siechtum, you practically listen to nothing then :P
[17:54] <Sachse_Siechtum> knome, my taste is broad...
[17:55] <Sachse_Siechtum> I even like some hip hop songs..
[17:55] <Sysi> oh, you're into doom metal
[17:55] <Sachse_Siechtum> Sysi, doom metal? Like Octavia?
[17:55] <knome> Sachse_Siechtum, you can't describe m. a. numminen, but i'm pretty sure you won't like it / able to lsiten to it more than 5mins
[17:55] <Sysi> Sachse_Siechtum: TON sounded doom to me
[17:55] <Sachse_Siechtum> charlie-tca, IF you can make my Xubuntu running perfectly, I gonna send you a christmas gift :-)
[17:55] <Sachse_Siechtum> knome, what genre is it?
[17:56] <Sysi> knome: is that the guy with funny voice?
[17:56] <charlie-tca> Sachse_Siechtum: never gonna happen...
[17:56] <Sachse_Siechtum> charlie-tca, why? *g*
[17:56] <Sachse_Siechtum> Sysi, listening to evanescence now...
[17:56] <charlie-tca> heh, When it hits perfect, there is nothing left to do
[17:57] <Sysi> knome: do you always listen this boring stuff?
[17:57] <knome> Sysi, not always.
[17:57] <Sachse_Siechtum> charlie-tca, well ok...change perfect to...running fine :-)
[17:57] <charlie-tca> Now that is a goal we can work on. It isn't there yet?
[17:58] <knome> Sachse_Siechtum, http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=c_6T4CWdDBw
[17:58] <knome> Sachse_Siechtum, decide on the genre yourself.
[17:58] <Sachse_Siechtum> evanescence is not bad...but they have to get more variation into the arrangements....on open door, they sound all the same..
[17:59] <Sachse_Siechtum> charlie-tca, well some thing bug me still...like...everytime X boots up, I have to type in the password so my wlan will connect
[17:59] <charlie-tca> known problem, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu
[18:00] <Sachse_Siechtum> ROFL
[18:00] <Sachse_Siechtum> this song....LOL
[18:01] <Sachse_Siechtum> knome, where are they from? Finland?
[18:01] <knome> Sachse_Siechtum, yup.
[18:02] <Sachse_Siechtum> LOL I guessed it... only they can come up with something like that!
[18:02] <Sachse_Siechtum> lol
[18:02] <Sachse_Siechtum> well I'm german so I understand it...even if its heavy accented
[18:02] <knome> he also sings in finnish, english and swedish.
[18:02] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm just thinking what they mean with "gummikavalier" I think its another word for dildo
[18:02] <knome> nope
[18:03] <knome> !language
[18:03] <knome> ;P
[18:03] <Sachse_Siechtum> ups sorry
[18:03] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok d****o
[18:03] <knome> Sachse_Siechtum, it's something you have to blow up hard before using
[18:03] <Sachse_Siechtum> yeah a blow up ****
[18:03] <Sysi> should i know that?
[18:04] <knome> Sachse_Siechtum, there's some more stuff for you :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txtUCGBLGJk
[18:04] <knome> Sysi, you're too young anyway.
[18:05] <Sachse_Siechtum> knome, speaking of whitch...how old are you guys? I'm 28..
[18:05] <knome> 24, Sysi is 11
[18:05] <Sachse_Siechtum> 11? OMFG
[18:05] <Sysi> :D
[18:05] <knome> aahhhahaha
[18:05] <Sysi> 17..
[18:06] <knome> ;)
[18:06] <Sachse_Siechtum> I get 29 on sunday
[18:06] <knome> congrats
[18:06] <Sachse_Siechtum> thanks
[18:07] <Sysi> knome: numminen isn't that bad
[18:07] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmm too bad the performance of HL2 is so bad in WINE..
[18:07] <knome> Sysi, have you heard the tracks where he does "kieut"
[18:07] <Sysi> not sure
[18:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> they reminds me of a german artist called helge schneider...
[18:08] <Sachse_Siechtum> -s
[18:09] <Sysi> knome: but i occasionally listen miley cyrus
[18:09] <knome> haven't heard
[18:09] <Sachse_Siechtum> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKvYDpmSX2Y
[18:09] <Sysi> knome: also known "hannah montana"
[18:09] <Sachse_Siechtum> be prepared for bad taste vlothing
[18:09] <Sachse_Siechtum> clothing
[18:10] <knome> Sachse_Siechtum, eww, he is joking. numminen is serious.
[18:10] <charlie-tca> just listen, don't look
[18:10] <knome> Sysi, ...
[18:10] <knome> that ain't music
[18:10] <Sysi> artist is the actor
[18:10] <Sachse_Siechtum> LOL
[18:10] <Sysi> but, yup
[18:10] <charlie-tca> knome: it is music for very young people
[18:11] <knome> charlie-tca, oh really :P
[18:11] <Sachse_Siechtum> I kinda like that song...its so....crazy
[18:11] <charlie-tca> Much younger than you, even
[18:11] <knome> charlie-tca, i think it's for those who haven't born yet. :P
[18:11] <charlie-tca> No, they get classical music
[18:11] <charlie-tca> brahms, bethoven, taichovsky
[18:13] <knome> charlie-tca, i suppose you mean beethoven and tchaikovsky :P
[18:13] <charlie-tca> well, only if you count spelling
[18:13] <Sysi> knome: btw, do you have sauna in your house?
[18:13] <knome> Sysi, in our two rooms+kitchen? sorry, no.
[18:14] <Sysi> mmph
[18:14] <Sachse_Siechtum> I wanna go swimming in a lake :-)
[18:14] <knome> own sauna's are not common when you live in flats :P
[18:14] <Sysi> but can you use one?
[18:15] <knome> Sysi, several.
[18:15] <Sysi> i'd like to get some at the time of assembly
[18:15] <knome> Sysi, we could use the one in this building, but haven't. we usually just visit my wife's parents.
[18:16] <knome> Sysi, ...and in the summer, there's a possibility to use our summer cottage in espoo.
[18:16] <knome> Sysi, or renko (near hämeenlinna)
[18:16] <knome> Sysi, and then we have a family friend in helsinki who does have his own sauna in a his apartment
[18:17] <Sysi> cool
[18:17] <knome> the possibilities are infinite.
[18:17] <knome> and there's many public saunas in helsinki
[18:17] <knome> well maybe not that MANY, but several i know and probably more
[18:18] <Sysi> hum
[18:18] <knome> hum what?
[18:18] <Sysi> much choises :)
[18:19] <knome> sure.
[18:19] <knome> Helsingin yleiset saunat ovat Sauna Arla, Kotiharjun sauna ja Sauna Hermanni.
[18:19] <knome> (tells wikipedia)
[18:19] <Sysi> swimming halls?
[18:19] <knome> yeah, they have saunas
[18:19] <knome> but those listed are *saunas*
[18:20] <knome> nothing else
[18:20] <Sachse_Siechtum> *burp*
[18:21] <Sysi> let's see if i'm going to sauna alone or with friends
[18:21] <knome> i'm not sure if we should continue this conversation somewhere else though :P
[18:21] <Sachse_Siechtum> sauna is nice...
[18:21] <Sysi> maybe :b
[18:23] <knome> gonna shave my beard now.
[18:23] <Sachse_Siechtum> damn I have to shave mine too...
[18:23] <Sachse_Siechtum> to get that "dr. house" look
[18:32] <knome> hah
[18:32] <knome> i shaved away that karl marx look
[18:32] <knome> (not really, but something that was going to grow up as one)
[18:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> ROFL
[18:34] <knome> well i have a friend with that look
[18:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> hmm just thinking about putting a pic of me into the channel...
[18:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah
[18:35] <Sachse_Siechtum> but I'm afraid the pic will float into some gay ****** website
[18:35] <knome> it won't
[18:35] <Sachse_Siechtum> alright...lemme find one...
[18:36] <knome> 7msg Sysi what a fool
[18:36] <knome> oops :)
[18:36] <knome> no, not really
[18:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i115/punisher1981_2006/Dark/Dark1.jpg
[18:37] <knome> okay ;)
[18:37] <Sysi> how tall are you?
[18:37] <knome> scary wooden supporting structure there
[18:38] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm 1,69 meters
[18:39] <knome> awww
[18:39] <knome> ;)
[18:39] <Sysi> i'm about 20cm more
[18:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> pff show off *g*
[18:41] <knome> talking of house look, i think i'm going to watch house in 20 mins
[18:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> sweet
[18:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> I finished the 6th season long time ago
[18:42] <knome> i'm not a huge fan, it just happens to be in finnish tv
[18:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> ah
[18:42] <knome> :)
[18:43] <Sachse_Siechtum> I normally dont watch hospital shows..but house is just awesome
[18:43] <knome> i normally don't watch tv... now i'm just bored
[18:43] <knome> even clients are not sending email
[18:44] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm kinda bored too...
[18:44] <Sachse_Siechtum> thinking about playing a game..
[18:44] <Sachse_Siechtum> dunno whitch yet...
[18:44] <Sachse_Siechtum> Company of heroes....or dod...or max  payne
[18:55] <slow-motion> hi
[18:59] <Balsaq> hello slow-motion , welcome to the Land of Xubuntu.
[19:03] <charlie-tca> How can I get two rows of channels in Xchat?
[19:07] <charlie-tca> Anybody? this is a legit question
[19:28] <Balsaq> charlie-tca, there is a channel known as #xchat. they may be able to answer your question.
[19:29] <charlie-tca> Thanks. I will ask there
[20:00] <Sachse_Siechtum> and I'm back
[20:00] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello slow-motion
[22:38] <slow-motion> n8


[07:42] <bgaifullin> Hi
[07:42] <bgaifullin> I cannot login to my launchpad account, this error appears ' OOPS-51ebaaa8214be9b06de0b38d996b8924'
[07:43] <ubot5`> https://oops.canonical.com/?oopsid=OOPS-51ebaaa8214be9b06de0b38d996b8924
[07:48] <bgaifullin> I think the root cause is that I had 2 accounts at ubuntu one
[07:48] <bgaifullin> one is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>another is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:49] <bgaifullin> currently I use only<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it is possible to link my account in launchpad to this one login account
[08:14] <wgrant> bgaifullin: Hm, do you need both Ubuntu One accounts?
[08:14] <bgaifullin> wgrant, No, I need only<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:14] <wgrant> bgaifullin: I'd normally suggest deleting the second one (currently with the @gmail.com address) and adding its address to your main account.
[08:15] <bgaifullin> I added email address<EMAIL_ADDRESS>to my launchpad address
[08:15] <bgaifullin> wgrant, ^
[08:15] <wgrant> Right, but Launchpad and Ubuntu One accounts aren't the same thing.
[08:15] <wgrant> You have one Ubuntu One account for each address, but the Launchpad account has both addresses.
[08:16] <bgaifullin> wgrant, I got it :)
[08:16] <wgrant> Unless you really need the second Ubuntu One account for some reason, I'd delete it and add its address to your remaining single account.
[08:16] <wgrant> Keep one account on each system, and leave things much less confusing for people and computers alike :)
[08:17] <bgaifullin> wgrant, I got it, thank you. :)
[08:17] <wgrant> bgaifullin: Great, let me know if that doesn't sort it out for you.
[08:22] <vi01et> hello i encountered oops, some one help me
[08:22] <vi01et> Error ID: OOPS-2e4a2a0de4be8f61759cec0b07566ee1
[08:22] <ubot5`> https://oops.canonical.com/?oopsid=OOPS-2e4a2a0de4be8f61759cec0b07566ee1
[08:28] <wgrant> vi01et: Do you have two Ubuntu One accounts?
[08:28] <vi01et> i delete one and re registered at same email
[08:31] <wgrant> vi01et: Hm, that would do it. Why did you do that?
[08:33] <vi01et> wgrant i mistake to nameing my username in openstack gerrit
[08:34] <vi01et> wgrant but username can't modify so i delete my account
[08:35] <wgrant> vi01et: Why couldn't you change your username?
[08:35] <wgrant> Did you talk to OpenStack people before deleting your identity?
[08:35] <wgrant> This may have caused bigger problems, but I can at least stitch the Launchpad parts of your identity back together.
[08:36] <wgrant> I can't fix the OpenStack side of things.
[08:36] <vi01et> openstack gerrit is ok but launchpad login only error
[08:39] <wgrant> vi01et: Please drop an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with the details (including email address, OOPS ID and usernames if you have them), and I'll get it sorted out soon.
[08:40] <vi01et> wgrant thank you so much!
[08:41] <wgrant> vi01et: np
[12:47] <rbasak> I'd like to link bug 1649832 to my git branch lp:~racb/usd-importer:disable-applied manually. But when I put "~racb/usd-importer:disable-applied" into the search box after clicking "Link a related branch", I get "No items matched...". "Loading suggestions..." never seems to complete either.
[12:47] <ubot5`> bug 1649832 in usd-importer "Problems in applied patches imports cause import failures which are not ignored" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1649832
[12:47] <rbasak> What am I doing wrong?
[12:49] <wgrant> rbasak: Since Git branches are rather more ephemeral than Bazaar ones tend to be (at least server-side), it's not possible to link a bug to a Git branch, just a Git merge proposal.
[12:50] <wgrant> We considered allowing Git branch links, but people tend to delete their branches from the server soon after they're merged, so that wouldn't be very useful.
[12:59] <rbasak> Oh, OK. Thanks.
[13:00] <rbasak> Perhaps you should change the text to "Link a related Bazaar branch" to make it clear?
[13:15] <rbasak> Is there any way to get from a package_upload object to download URLs for the entries listed in changes_file_url?
[13:15] <rbasak> sru-review appears to scrape the queue HTML view page.
[13:16] <rbasak> Ah
[13:16] <rbasak> binaryFileUrls
[13:16] <rbasak> And sourceFileUrls
[13:16]  * rbasak experiments
[19:17] <tvansteenburgh> is anyone aware of problems with the launchpad api today? one of my apps has been getting 503s today (from the lp api), and I haven't seen that before.
[21:50] <wgrant> tvansteenburgh: There are no general problems. Which particular API call were you having issues with?
[22:23] <tvansteenburgh> wgrant: when using lp_user.super_teams
[22:23] <tvansteenburgh> Error ID:
[22:23] <tvansteenburgh> OOPS-b57724dc349548acc2485d5cb082d91c (not sure if that helps or not)
[22:23] <ubot5`> https://oops.canonical.com/?oopsid=OOPS-b57724dc349548acc2485d5cb082d91c
[22:24] <wgrant> tvansteenburgh: The OOPS ID is exactly what helps :)
[22:24] <wgrant> Let me see.
[22:27] <wgrant> tvansteenburgh: Hm, is it reproducible?
[22:27] <wgrant> tvansteenburgh: I'd expect it to be fairly quick after the first couple of tries.
[22:31] <tvansteenburgh> wgrant: yeah it's happened every time ~niebalski has tried to login to our app afaik


[13:17] <Chikore> nzoueidi, Hi
[14:07] <nzoueidi> allah 3inek Chikore :D
[14:07] <nzoueidi> how are you?
[14:08] <Chikore> hhh 3aychek :D I'm good and you?
[14:09] <nzoueidi> good as well :D
[14:51] <Chikore> nzoueidi, what are you planning to work on this week?
[15:24] <nzoueidi> sorry Chikore I went afk for a couple of hours
[15:24] <nzoueidi> working as usual and there is a meetup about jenkins X and k8s in wevioo
[15:25] <Chikore> No Problem, I'm in Paris since a month
[15:41] <nzoueidi> oh that's good :D
[15:41] <nzoueidi> I am here alone
[15:41] <nzoueidi> xD
[20:15] <elacheche> nzoueidi: you're here?
[20:15] <u-la-la> elacheche: 05 Mar 21:53Z <pavlushka> tell elacheche that the http://cactus.io/hookups/weather/anemometer/davis/hookup-arduino-to-davis-anemometer-wind-speed sketch reads the anemometer just fine, so it complements the missing functionality of https://github.com/switchdoclabs/SDL_Weather_80422


[11:58] <gary_poster> benji, some small conflicts in https://code.launchpad.net/~benji/lpsetup/bug-1023519-store-version-information/+merge/114736
[12:00] <benji> gary_poster: thanks; looking
[12:01] <gary_poster> welcome
[12:03] <benji> gary_poster: fixed and pushed
[12:03] <bac> hi gary_poster
[12:04] <bac> i re-ran lxc-install last night and it failed on make schema.  looks like it is trying to do that in the wrong directory
[12:06] <benji> you know, Launchpad really should email you when an MP has a conflict
[12:12] <gary_poster> bac ok
[12:12] <gary_poster> bac benji frankban http://tinyurl.com/yellowsquad
[13:02] <gary_poster> http://codesinger.blogspot.com/2012/07/yellow-squad-weekly-topics-july-6.html
[14:44] <bac> benji: done
[14:45] <benji> bac: thanks
[15:15] <benji> bac: I responded tou your (excellet) review https://code.launchpad.net/~benji/lpsetup/bug-1023519-store-version-information/+merge/114736/comments/246891
[15:16] <benji> if all that sounds good I will go ahead and mark the MP as approved
[15:18] <bac> benji: sounds good.  thanks.
[16:03] <bac> gary_poster:  i got my branch to work and have created a new branch and MP:  https://code.launchpad.net/~bac/lpsetup/fix-inithost-install-lxc-deux/+merge/114896
[16:04] <gary_poster> bac, reviewing
[16:07] <gary_poster> bac fully approved (vote and status)
[16:14] <bac> thanks gary_poster
[16:14]  * bac -> BLT
[16:23] <frankban> gary_poster: unfortunately I can not create a fake repository under /tmp/, because then init-repo complains about repository not being inside my home directory.
[16:24] <frankban> gary_poster: I can think about 2 solutions: 1) create the repository inside a temporary dir in the home or 2) this is an integration test that must be run using juju
[16:25] <gary_poster> frankban, as to #2, we want it part of the integration juju tests anyway (also, I guess?  I thought you were working on an integration test)
[16:25] <gary_poster> frankban, but as to 1, yeah, why not?
[16:26] <gary_poster> frankban, you can pass dir to tempfile functions, looks like
[16:26] <frankban> gary_poster: yes
[16:26] <frankban> gary_poster: what I'd like to do is:
[16:26] <frankban> 1. create a fake source repository using a template (as we discussed) under /tmp/
[16:27] <frankban> 2. test init-repo passing --source [fake source] with and without --checkout
[16:27] <frankban> 3. check the command does not raise errors
[16:28] <frankban> 4. check for the fake file to be correctly present in the checkout (or in the branch if --no-checkout is passed)
[16:28] <frankban> 5. destroy the source, destroy the target, done.
[16:29] <gary_poster> frankban, sounds great, except make step 1 work with source in ~/[tempdir] (or checkout/[tempdir]?), right?
[16:29] <frankban> (the fake file is just one test file added and committed to the source
[16:30] <gary_poster> frankban, please as I said on call, eventually I want fake repo to have more contents
[16:30] <frankban> gary_poster: the source file can be in /tmp/, it can be everywhere, the repository to create must be under ~
[16:30] <gary_poster> frankban, oh, right.
[16:31] <gary_poster> my sentence "please as I said on call," was edited badly.  just meant "as I said on call"
[16:31] <frankban> gary_poster: yes, we can reuse the fake source for integration tests in the future
[16:31] <gary_poster> great
[16:32] <frankban> gary_poster: so, for this unit tests, i am going to create a temp repository in the home, right?
[16:33] <gary_poster> frankban, right.  To be ore specific, you are going to use tempdir to create a tempdir in ~; then you will make repo in ~/[tempdir], right?
[16:33] <gary_poster> s/ore/more/
[16:35] <frankban> gary_poster: yes, repository will be something like tempfile.mktemp(dir='~')
[16:36] <gary_poster> frankban, perfect
[16:37] <frankban> gary_poster: for the lpsetup package, it's near my EOD and I will try to add these changes to my branch, so...
[16:38]  * gary_poster listens
[16:41] <frankban> gary_poster: I don't think I can take care of that
[16:42] <gary_poster> frankban, sure, of course!  would you like to pass it off to someone else, or save it for Monday, or pass it off to someone else, and in case they don't finish it you'll do it on Monday? :-)
[16:45] <frankban> gary_poster: I meant I can not take care of building a new lpsetup package, I can do that on Monday, or I pass it off if you need the new package today
[16:46] <gary_poster> frankban, oh duh, sorry
[16:46] <gary_poster> frankban, cool, thanks for letting me know
[16:46] <gary_poster> I didn't read carefully enough and missed the transition
[17:09] <frankban> gary_poster: cool, np
[19:48] <bac> gary_poster, benji: regarding versioning, it seems we need to keep track of 1) contents of deleted files, 2) names of modified files, and 3) names of added files on a per-version basis.  when the version changes we can 1) restore the deleted files, 2) unmodify the ones we changed if we put fences around beginning and end of our changes, 3) remove the added files.
[19:49] <bac> we cannot restore modified files to the original since the dev or system could've made other changes in the meantime.  perhaps this is obvious and you've already noted it.
[19:49] <gary_poster> bac, agreed.  benji, we had a list of four items on a google doc.  do you still have that hanging around?
[19:50] <gary_poster> four things that we thought we ought to save
[19:50] <gary_poster> probably can find
[19:50] <benji> gary_poster: yep, one sec
[19:50] <benji> bac, they are in this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lpsetup/+bug/1023519
[19:51] <_mup_> Bug #1023519: Store version information <lpsetup:In Progress by benji> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023519 >
[19:51] <bac> i read that bug this morning but it doesn't state explicitly what i was thinking above
[19:53] <gary_poster> bac, true.  what you wrote has thought through some of the points more thoroughly.
[19:53] <gary_poster> bac, perhaps it would be worthwhile to add that as a comment to the bug, or to update the description.  Beyond that...
[19:53] <bac> sure
[19:55] <gary_poster> bac, I was trying to think if I could see a card that ought to be made from that, but I don't see one--unless we don't add the footers yet?
[19:55] <bac> we do not add footers
[19:55] <gary_poster> if we don't add the footer "fence" that would be worth a card
[19:56] <gary_poster> +1 for card then, bac.  Thank you.