[06:34] <ActionParsnip> almoxarife: LXDE here, super slick and quick
[06:34] <Blue1> almoxarife: at least they fixed the http cleaner cache thing
[06:34]  * Datz has it simplified, and went without any GUI
[06:35] <Datz> at least for my server
[06:35] <Blue1> Datz: i've never quite mastered lynx
[06:35] <Datz> using that for everyday tasks would be fun
[06:35] <Datz> Blue1: yea, lynx is only ok
[06:35] <renedox> guis for servers is one thing i'll never understand
[06:35] <Datz> links is good too
[06:35] <renedox> which is why i'll never understand windows servers :S
[06:35] <Datz> renedox: only if you can only afford one machine :p
[06:35] <renedox> links2 is good
[06:35] <Datz> haha renedox
[06:36] <Datz> humm, didn't know there was a links2
[06:36] <Blue1> renedox: i wonder how much overhead X add's to a machine.  I think negligible
[06:36] <Datz> more updates, more instability
[06:36] <Blue1> true that...
[06:36] <renedox> Blue1: not quite negligible
[06:37] <chenlong> More apps,slower speed?
[06:37] <renedox> since you're running processes which aren't needed
[06:37] <renedox> taking up hard drive space
[06:37]  * Datz nods
[06:37] <renedox> and like Datz said, unneeded updates
[06:37] <SubCool> can someone help me with this line prompt i cant get it to work aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages
[06:37] <rww> SubCool: change the ! to \!
[06:37] <Blue1> renedox: I've done a full install onto a flash drive (including x) and it takes up less then 3G
[06:37] <quiescens> its single quoted
[06:38] <renedox> Blue1: are all packages up to date?
[06:38] <rww> good point
[06:38] <Blue1> renedox: yes sir
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> Blue1:plus more drivers loaded to make stuff work
[06:38] <renedox> Blue1: why was x included?
[06:38] <virtuelv> has anyone experienced that their computer shuts down while in standby?
[06:38] <Datz> renedox has been knighted?
[06:38] <virtuelv> this is new since maverick, fwiw
[06:39] <renedox> Datz: whaaa?
[06:39] <Datz> he called you sir
[06:39] <SubCool> rww, wa? which one? idk the line code- someone gave it to me.. i just got to use it.. and it doesnt work
[06:39] <Blue1> renedox: an experiment to see if I could make it run on a flash drive - works fine - -howeve,r I did use EXT2
[06:39] <Datz> etc etc
[06:39] <chenlong> Is it using Mac OS X icons legal?
[06:39] <quiescens> subcool: as far as I can tell it works, maybe you should considering giving us an error message or something
[06:39] <renedox> Datz: oh right lol
[06:39] <Datz> Blue1: try SLAX for flash drive
[06:39] <Blue1> Datz: url please?
[06:39] <SubCool> quiescens, there is no error to be consider for an offer
[06:39] <renedox> virtuelv: check your power management settings
[06:39] <renedox> oh yes, slax is good
[06:39] <quiescens> subcool: then how do you know it didn't work?
[06:40] <SubCool> no file is outputed
[06:40] <renedox> Blue1: oh fair enough, what is the server used for?
[06:40] <Datz> er.. me googles slax
[06:40] <quiescens> subcool: have you looked at the my-packages file in your home directory?
[06:40] <Datz> http://www.slax.org/
[06:40] <Blue1> Datz: thanks
[06:40] <Datz> sure
[06:40] <virtuelv> renedox: which power managment settings? Ubuntu's or the bios'?
[06:40] <renedox> virtuelv: ubuntu's power management settings
[06:40] <SubCool> ok- ...
[06:41] <SubCool> i thought it woulda been in the directoy i was in when i ran the command
[06:41] <Blue1> renedox: wasn't a server - I needed a secure portable os, when travelling, so I put it on a flash drive, and used it at my folks, and my sisters (has thunderbird and ff as well as abiword on it) - works quite well
[06:41] <SubCool> my bad- see. i dont know
[06:41] <renedox> Blue1: ahh.. right, I considered doing that
[06:41] <SubCool> TY
[06:41] <virtuelv> renedox: they're not revealing much (sleep: never, close lid: standby, critically low: hibernate)
[06:42] <virtuelv> the machine goes to standby, but when I come back five minutes later, it's shut down
[06:42] <Blue1> renedox: here's the recipe on how I did that:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=51
[06:42] <chenlong> Is the udisk
[06:42] <chenlong> Is the U disk OK?
[06:43] <renedox> virtuelv: hm.. not sure then
[06:44] <renedox> Blue1: thanks :D
[06:44] <virtuelv> I'm wondering if the windows 7 install is doing something
[06:44] <jaceleon> hello?
[06:45] <renedox> no one's here
[06:45] <chenlong> hello
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> !hi | jaceleon
[06:45] <Datz> !hi | ubottu
[06:45] <jaceleon> @all can you help me out? My brother installed grub2 on /dev/sda1 and now everytime I choose windows to boot it always returns to the menu. how can I fix this?
[06:46] <chenlong> format
[06:46] <jaceleon> @chenlong isthat the only possible way?
[06:46] <jaceleon> *is that
[06:46] <Datz> no
[06:47] <Datz> I had that after I installed win7
[06:47] <Datz> there should be a tutorial
[06:47] <chenlong> a joke.
[06:47] <Datz> jaceleon: do you have a live cd?
[06:47] <jaceleon> @Datz a live USB
[06:47] <chenlong> google
[06:48] <Datz> jaceleon: ok, that should work too
[06:48] <jaceleon> @chenlong google brought me here
[06:48] <chenlong> use windows installer--wubi
[06:48] <chenlong> wubi is useful.
[06:48] <Datz> jaceleon: I'd start with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:49] <mmaksimov> Hi everyone. "apt-get autoremove" removed an old kernel package, but didn't trigger update-grub, and if run manually update-grub still "sees" the removed kernel version, although it cannot boot. How can I really remove an obsolete kernel version that is already partially removed?
[06:49] <Jordan_U> jaceleon: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[06:49] <chenlong> use ubuntu-tweak
[06:50] <jaceleon> @datz so what exactly happened to my windows
[06:50] <chenlong> tweak is useful
[06:50] <Datz> jaceleon: it's still there.
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> mmaksimov: if you run: dpkg -l | grep linux-image-2    does it show up?
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> chenlong: also unofficial
[06:52] <jaceleon> @Datz If I install testdisk, according here, I can fix the boot partition?
[06:53] <mmaksimov> ActionParsnip: two kernels, current and obsolete.
[06:53] <Datz> jaceleon: I don't know. I didn't link you to that. Ask Jordan_U
[06:53] <jaceleon> @Jordan_U If I install testdisk, according here, I can fix the boot partition?
[06:53] <jaceleon> @Datz thanks
[06:53] <Jordan_U> jaceleon: Yes.
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> mmaksimov: is the obsolete onj
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> one the one you want to remove?
[06:54] <jaceleon> @Jordan_U What should I select in the testdisk, analyse or mbr or what?
[06:54] <mmaksimov> ActionParsnip: yes
[06:54] <Jordan_U> jaceleon: Follow the directions on that page.
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> mmaksimov: ok then run: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.xxxxxx
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> mmaksimov: obv you will put the correct version numbers
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> mmaksimov: that will remove the kernel and trigger update-grub
[06:55] <mmaksimov> ActionParsnip: I sure will :)
[06:56] <ranjan> Hi all
[06:56] <ranjan> How to delete a line from a file using sed??
[06:56] <jaceleon> @Jordan_U Ok, I'll reboot to see. Thanks.
[06:56] <Jordan_U> jaceleon: You're welcome.
[06:57] <mmaksimov> ActionParsnip thank you it worked
[06:58] <dhruvasagar> Hey, which do you recommend as the best word processor !? One where I can use images and various fonts etc
[06:59]  * Datz has always liked open office
[06:59] <riya> hi
[06:59] <Datz> one word?
[06:59] <riya> i want to execute external application in c/gtk how to???
[06:59] <chenlong> open office
[06:59] <dhruvasagar> I think LyX is better than open office
[07:00] <Datz> use emacs-nox11
[07:00] <chenlong> OOO easier
[07:00] <dhruvasagar> not sure about others
[07:00] <Random832> riya: system() or fork/exec
[07:00] <chenlong> Koffice is ok
[07:01] <Random832> system takes a single string just like the command line you type in the shell [which means it can have $variables, pipes, `stuff` etc, which means it's dangerous if you don't carefully control what is put in the string] - fork/exec is slightly more foolproof, but more difficult to use
[07:02] <dhruvasagar> chenlong: I am more woried about the output / end result
[07:03] <dhruvasagar> chenlong: I am able to produce better results with LyX, but I don't know about others, I see there's some AbiWord, but I have no idea how it is
[07:03] <twiztid> Hey all; trying to boot existing Ubuntu partition from within windows; im using VBox but im stuck trying to create a bootable grub 2 iso
[07:03] <riya> Random832: thanks
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> twiztid: may work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=769883
[07:04] <chenlong> twiztid:regist the iso
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> twiztid: its for runing xp under virtualbox running in ubuntu but the opposite may work. You could also ask in #vbox
[07:05] <chenlong> twiztid:wubi can boot ubuntu
[07:07] <chenlong> Is using Mac icons illegal?
[07:08] <Datz> chenlong: probably not for your own use
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> chenlong: apple dont like it but if someone recreates them then I can't imagine there would be any issue personally
[07:08] <Guest66156> @Jordan_U Hey this is jaceleon, anyway, thanks for the link for testdisk, I have now booted to Windows
[07:08] <Jordan_U> Guest66156: You're welcome.
[07:09] <chenlong> Thank you
[07:09] <Guest66156> @chenlong Apple Mac OS X Icons are just okay to use as long as your country does not forbid usage of copyrighted materials
[07:10] <luw> question about browsing files.  for the file browser in 10.04, they have moved from having the path spelled out, to each directory being a "box".  how can i get it to be the way it used to be (just the plain text path)?
[07:10] <luw> also this might be a gnome question
[07:10] <rebirth> hi. i just had the best idea for a website and i need to get coding php now! yes i know how but i need help installing a programming environment on ubuntu.
[07:10] <Guest66156> @luw define "box"?
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> luw: the app is called nautilus: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/09/show-full-folder-path-title-bar-nautilus-ubuntu-10-0410-10-maverick-meerkat/
[07:10] <Datz> rebirth: install apache2 and php5
[07:11] <Guest66156> @rebirth there are loads of that in the ubuntu app installer
[07:12] <rebirth> is lamp good?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> rebirth: if you need it, yes
[07:12] <dhruvasagar> chenlong: for personal usage I think it should be fine, for commercial use, no...
[07:12] <rebirth> i will need to do MySQL
[07:12] <Guest66156> @rebirth you're looking for a LAMP app
[07:13] <Qwert> What can make Ubuntu desktop system slow? Applications, updates, etc..
[07:13] <rebirth> is LAMP a specific program or a class of programs?
[07:13] <luw> Guest66156: each time you go into a directory, a seperate tab like box appears for each directory.  for instance, /home/joe/stuff has three boxes; "home" "joe" and "stuff".  you just click the boxes to go to the directory.  cute, but stupid for most real linux users.
[07:13] <icarus-c> #fedora
[07:13] <icarus-c> oops
[07:13] <luw> ActionParsnip: thank you
[07:13] <dhruvasagar> icarus-c: you are doomed...
[07:13] <glebihan> luw: to see the full path and edit it, press Ctrl+L
[07:14] <Guest66156> @luw it is due to the gnome nautilus in 10.04
[07:14] <dhruvasagar> luw: there is an 'edit' but to manually enter path...but for most real linux users, terminal is all they need ;) :P
[07:14] <Guest66156> @luw you may try using another file manager like PCManFM
[07:15] <sweetpi> rebirth: LAMP is just a buzzword for Linux, Apache, MySQL, Perl/PHP/Python
[07:15] <Guest66156> @luw I prefer that, but thunar is also good
[07:15] <glebihan> luw: to make it permanent, enable the "/apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry" in gonf-editor
[07:15] <luw> glebihan: thank you
[07:15] <glebihan> *gconf-editor"
[07:15] <chenlong> GUI is also useful for person.
[07:15] <luw> Guest66156: yea i was thinking it was gnome thing, im not used to using this though and couldnt find it right away.
[07:16] <rebirth> sweetpi: is there a single package i can download or will i need to install them all separately?
[07:16] <Guest66156> luw: then install a file manager, there are loads of file manager that are much lightweight than nautilus
[07:16] <sweetpi> rebirth: not sure, I dont run servers on ubuntu
[07:16] <Guest66156> luw: not to mention they are following the directory address format
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Qwert: services that aren't needed to run, running compiz
[07:17] <rebirth> is there a channel for webdev on linux or ubuntu?
[07:17] <riya> rebirth run following command sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Qwert: you can use slimmer apps to speed up the OS
[07:17] <pLr> rebirth: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:17] <dhruvasagar> rebirth: I think you'll have to install separately, but there are a lot of articles out there to assist you
[07:17] <Qwert> ActionParsnip: As in?
[07:17] <pLr> rebirth: there is no virtual package containing lamp
[07:17] <ranjan> Hi all any help with sed??
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Qwert: if you only use Writer ni openoffice, uninstall openoffice and use abiword
[07:18] <pLr> !ask ranjan
[07:18] <Qwert> ActionParsnip: Okay
[07:18] <glebihan> !details | ranjan
[07:18] <rebirth> ok i will read this and google LAMP installation
[07:18] <ub_noob> can someone tell me how i can type Chinese using ubuntu? TOTAL NOOB just switched!
[07:18] <Qwert> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Qwert: that sort of thing, if you don't scan or print you can remove sane and cups to run a slimmer OS
[07:18] <Guest66156> ub_noob: change your keyboard preference
[07:18] <luw> dhruvasagar: true, this computer is set up for my parents.  i guess i'm not a linux user anyway (i just write the drivers)
[07:18] <Guest66156> ub_noob: it is in system, if I remember correctly
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Qwert: you can also install LXDE and run that and use less ram
[07:18] <ranjan> pLr, glebihan , hi i want to delete a line from a file using sed with matching string
[07:18] <dhruvasagar> luw: cool
[07:19] <dhruvasagar> luw: I was just kidding anyways
[07:19] <Qwert> ActionParsnip: Yeah..  I sort of think that's good.
[07:19] <ub_noob> Guest66156: that only change the layout, it doesn't let me type chinese..
[07:19] <chenlong> rebirth:use ibus
[07:19] <pLr> ranjan: what is your string?
[07:19] <ranjan> its x(y)
[07:20] <ranjan> pLr, its x(y)
[07:20] <xerox1> hi, is there a difference in formating an usb device with fdisk and geparted?
[07:20] <pLr> ranjan: so you want to delete all lines containing x(y) ?
[07:20] <Guest66156> ub_noob: try asking in the ubuntuforums
[07:20] <luw> dhruvasagar: no worries, thank you all for helping me fix this
[07:20] <Guest66156> ub_noob: I'm sorry I cant assist you that much, since I'm already cool with the US layout
[07:20] <ranjan> pLr, yes ofcourse
[07:21] <Jordan_U> xerox1: Yes. fdisk only changes the partition table, it doesn't create or resize filesystems.
[07:21] <chenlong> ranjan:maybe sed -d
[07:21] <pLr> ranjan: you should not use sed for this purpose, i would suggest grep
[07:22] <Guest66156> xeroxl: gparted can also do fdisk's job
[07:22] <xerox1> Jordan_U, okay, thx a lot
[07:22] <Jordan_U> xerox1: You're welcome.
[07:22] <chenlong> ranjan:i would suggest vim
[07:22] <pLr> ranjan: e.g. grep -v 'x(y)' filename
[07:22] <ranjan> pLr, let me try that
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[07:23] <pLr> chenlong: vim!?
[07:24] <chenlong> plr:soory
[07:24] <ranjan> pLr, its not getting removed from the file
[07:24] <ranjan> chenlong, how using vim??
[07:24] <lucent> Guest66156: regular old parted... why bother with gparted?
[07:24] <pLr> ranjan: once you verify the output is correct you can redirect with > to a filename
[07:24] <glebihan> ranjan:  grep -v 'x(y)' filename > filename
[07:24] <lucent> though I wish parted had an explicit "No Write" mode
[07:25] <ranjan> glebihan, but i want to do this recursively there are nested folders too.
[07:25] <ranjan> glebihan, and i want the file names intact
[07:25] <ranjan> glebihan, any tricks?
[07:26] <xbonesx> anyone else have problems getting the different mouse cursors to work right?
[07:26] <pLr> xbonesx: HAHA
[07:26] <pLr> lol
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> xbonesx: I just use the default, works fine
[07:26] <xbonesx> pLr: whats so funny lol
[07:26] <lucent> ranjan: my first go-to choice would be to write a script in Ruby and do the work this way
[07:27] <pLr> ranjan: use the same name.. and to go over many files you would need a for loop
[07:27] <lucent> ranjan: you can actually do it using some bash redirection and sed kung-fu'ery
[07:27] <pLr> ranjan: an easier approach for support is to ask for your outcome and not how to troubleshoot what you think is right
[07:27] <lucent> pick a scripting language though perl, ruby, python, whichever and learn one so you have some tools to do advanced things
[07:28] <lucent> sorry that's a bit of a non-answer
[07:28] <ranjan> lucent, yes i will but this is something urgent.
[07:28] <pLr> ranjan: #bash is also more relevant to these topics
[07:28] <xbonesx> pLr: ???
[07:28] <lucent> true it's not exactly Ubuntu issue
[07:28] <lucent> ranjan: really wish you best time to find your answer, somewhere else? :)
[07:29] <pLr> xbonesx: nothing i guess your memory is not so good
[07:29] <ranjan> lucent, thank you
[07:29] <xbonesx> pLr: why lol?
[07:29] <xbonesx> pLr: i remember talking to you but not about what?
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> quit
[07:29] <pLr> xbonesx: its ok i was joking
[07:30] <xbonesx> pLr: dude im lost cuz i dont even know what your joking about... :/
[07:31] <Voting> If I want to create a user but I want that user to end up with a specific ID number (she it will match the user on another machine) how do I do it exactly? (god, this seems like something I should be able to figure out myself.)
[07:32] <maco> Voting: you could just add them and edit /etc/passwd
[07:32] <xbonesx> pLr: when did i last talk to you?
[07:32] <lucent> maco: incorrect
[07:32] <pLr> pLr: a couple weeks ago i helped you with your wireless
[07:32] <maco> Voting: oh or..  sudo adduser --uid 2000  username
[07:32] <lucent> shadow file won't get updated... naughty way to do it
[07:32] <maco> lucent: meh fine edit passwd, group, and shadow
[07:32] <xbonesx> pLr: oh ya... think i remember, then again ive had a lot of people help me with that
[07:33] <maco> though... i thought shadow went by username not uid...
[07:33] <multipass> any idea why amarok wont play music on my ubuntu?-- every other one i've tried does
[07:33] <xbonesx> pLr: finally got it working tho
[07:33] <lucent> Voting: see manual pages for adduser, there's an option to specify the numeric UID
[07:33] <pLr> xbonesx: congrats
[07:33] <xbonesx> pLr: shit ive learn a crap loads since then
[07:33] <maco> lucent: um shadow goes by username not by uid
[07:33] <xbonesx> learned*
[07:33] <maco> !language | xbonesx
[07:33] <Voting> maco: let me try that again... "sudo adduser --uid 2000  username group" right? I can put the group name at the end?
[07:33] <xbonesx> maco: sry
[07:33] <chenlong> Voting:use gui tools
[07:33] <pLr> xbonesx: good
[07:33] <maco> Voting: no, put --group groupname
[07:34] <lucent> Voting: group name at end of adduser command adds the user to a group, not setting the initial gorup
[07:34] <lucent> group* so I don't think that's it
[07:34] <Voting> chenlong: I'd rather use comand line tools
[07:34] <lucent> maybe you want an explicit option to set initial group?
[07:34] <xbonesx> pLr: but now i cant get this mouse cursor to work right, it shows up sometimes but not all the time, for instance like when hovering over the xchat client it shows but now the desktop
[07:36] <pLr> xbonesx: your cursor is probably from x right?
[07:36] <xuxu> How to change the B's parent process id,  in A process?
[07:36] <xbonesx> yep
[07:36] <pLr> xbonesx: i would guess its in gconf
[07:36] <pLr> xbonesx: but i did not look yet :p
[07:36] <filsuf> hallo list ... how is the ubuntu 64 bit for an i5 laptop?
[07:36] <filsuf> is that good?
[07:37] <glebihan> xuxu: you should probably ask on ##linux-coders
[07:37] <chenlong> Voting:a small linux command book is good.i have one at hand.
[07:37] <xuxu> glebihan:ok! thank you
[07:38] <lucent> filsuf: might direct you to search forum posts for users of an i5 laptop to find out what they are using and read what they think
[07:38] <lucent> asking here might be disappointing
[07:38] <filsuf> where's that lucent ?
[07:39] <lucent> when I want to know about Ubuntu and how it works on "some hardware" what I do is use Google to search for opinions
[07:39] <lucent> "Ubuntu i5 laptop 32-bit" is my suggestion to search for, then see from answers about 32-bit if anyone says 64-bit is working and much better than 32-bit
[07:39] <Voting> I typed "sudo adduser newAdmin --group admin --uid 2000" and it said:
[07:39] <Voting> adduser: Specify only one name in this mode.
[07:40] <chenlong> lucent:ubuntu support common hardware well.
[07:40] <pLr> lucent: you scared him away
[07:40] <bastid_raZor> !hardware | lucent ::good place to look for support hardware.
[07:40] <pLr> lucent: lol
[07:41] <lucent> pLr: Fine, will toast and eat for breakfast if he returns.
[07:41] <bastid_raZor> Voting: sudo adduser username admin   ..replace username with the actual username  .. the rest leave alone. that command will add the user to group admin
[07:42] <Voting> bastid_raZor: "adduser: The user `newAdmin' does not exist."
[07:43] <Voting> is what it says now.
[07:43] <bastid_raZor> Voting: okay, then use an actual user not a made up one.
[07:43] <lucent> Voting: do this in two separate steps
[07:43] <lucent> first create the user, then add to admin group
[07:43] <Voting> create the user then re-set its ID?
[07:44] <Voting> but then his directory will have the wrong owner, etc?
[07:44] <Voting> oh, leave out the group, eh?
[07:44] <lucent> create the user setting the uid, d....
[07:44] <lucent> yes you got it right with that last thing you said
[07:46] <chenlong> Voting:it seems "useradd"
[07:46] <lucent> Voting: if this is a Desktop then uh, just create the user how you want it to be w/ adduser, worry about setting groups later - I suggest using the graphical tools to set other things
[07:47] <skeeby> can anyone assist me with mouse focus on a system with 2 separate xscreens running full screen aps?
[07:47] <lucent> skeeby: how so?
[07:47] <skeeby> well im trying to run a game fullscreen in wine on my main screen
[07:48] <linsus6> hi I haved lost the grub just before now I have reinstall it to his original point (hd2,3) how do I update grub my second linux os is not in the list?
[07:48] <skeeby> but if i move my mouse around too much it goes to the other screen and hides the fullscreen app if not crashes it
[07:48] <chenlong> Voting:"useradd -g" points the group.
[07:48] <Voting> chenlong: that worked great. now, how do I, on thecommand line, put him in the admin group?
[07:48] <lucent> linsus6: when you "install" grub, that is when you tell grub stages where to look for the filesystem containing a config file
[07:48] <lucent> linsus6: make sure you're doing that right!
[07:48] <maco> Voting: usermod -ag admin username
[07:49] <skeeby> i already checked the wine settings and have "allowe dx apps to sotp the mouse from leaving their window"
[07:49] <skeeby> and unchecked the 2 below it
[07:49] <Voting> maco: THANKS!!
[07:49] <maco> Voting: -a is *very* important
[07:49] <chenlong> Voting: sorry,i dont know
[07:49] <skeeby> that stopped it from crashing the game but still hides it when my mouse moves =(
[07:49] <lucent> skeeby: that's an advanced question for WINE community, though.  They will know better than anyone here, I think
[07:49] <maco> (without it, they are removed from all other groups and put into that one. with it that group is added to their list)
[07:49] <linsus6> lucent is for that I ask I want to make sure everything is in the menu.lst
[07:49] <Voting> maco: thanks!
[07:50] <Voting> thanks all!
[07:50] <skeeby> junks
[07:50] <skeeby> well
[07:50] <lucent> linsus6: so uh, the thing I would do is use LiveCD and boot. Then I would mount my computer's installed partitions and chroot, then re-run grub
[07:50] <skeeby> are there any settings in ubuntu to prevent the mouse from switching screens in fullscreen aps?
[07:51] <lucent> linsus6: I'm willing to teach you how to do that privmsg, but only if you care... If you just want it to work and don't care, then I'm not going to waste my time man
[07:51] <rambo3> when i delete a folder of > 30 gig  with rm -rf , df doesnt update free disk. why?
[07:51] <Voting> maco: "usermod -aG admin username" perhaps? capital G?
[07:51] <lucent> rambo3: ha... yeah that happens a lot
[07:51] <maco> Voting: yep you're right
[07:51] <lucent> rambo3: which fs?
[07:52] <Voting> maco: very grateful!
[07:52] <rambo3> ext3
[07:52] <maco> Voting: the -a is the bit i try to remember ;-)
[07:52] <linsus6> lucent I care I need my grub to be complete
[07:52] <rambo3> I have been wating for a while now. Need to start mysql
[07:53] <lucent> rambo3: when you reboot, the sizes will update. I think that's the short answer
[07:53] <quellhorst> how am I suppose to upgrade packages?: 12 updates are security updates.
[07:53] <lucent> rambo3: it's not really a bug or a thing to be worried about
[07:53] <Jordan_U> linsus6: "sudo update-grub" should add entries for all OSs to your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:53] <rambo3> lucent, I did reboot
[07:53] <quellhorst> I turned on auto updates and installs, but don't see it running.
[07:53] <lucent> rambo3: one unlikely possibility, you need to fsck the filesystem manually maybe there are errors
[07:54] <kiennd> Hi everyone
[07:54] <kiennd> I use ubuntu 10.04
[07:54] <kiennd> install virtual box
[07:54] <ectospasm> !ask | kiennd
[07:54] <chenlong> quellhorst:sudo apt-get install update
[07:54] <kiennd> guest OS is window xp
[07:55] <rambo3> lucent, It's not the first system that this has happened on.
[07:55] <quellhorst> chenlong: E: Couldn't find package update
[07:56] <bastid_raZor> quellhorst: sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:56] <quellhorst> bastid_raZor: yeah, just did that :)
[07:56] <kiennd> !ask | kiennd
[07:56] <quellhorst> bastid_raZor: i'm still surprised it didn't automatically apply them yet. the machine has been installed for 6 hours now.
[07:56] <bastid_raZor> quellhorst: i tend to do a "sudo apt-get update" before that.
[07:57] <quellhorst> bastid_raZor: why? I did that by accident first and it didn't seem to do much
[07:57] <bastid_raZor> quellhorst: i've never used the auto updater.. i prefer to do it manually.
[07:57] <bastid_raZor> quellhorst: the update refreshes your package list.
[07:57] <quellhorst> bastid_raZor: since this is for a staging server, i figured it would be an ok environment to test
[07:57] <blakkheim> aptitude update; aptitude -y full-upgrade
[07:59] <xbonesx> whats the command for extracting "tar.gz" keeping the permissions the same
[07:59] <linsus6> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/hd9Fen3g    my ubuntu doesnt apear?
[08:00] <deena> Hi
[08:01] <JoeMaverickSett> !welcome | deena
[08:01] <deena> there is no way to play swf format otherthan gnash,swplayer
[08:02] <Shvonder> hello. I don't know why but it seems that WINS server had registered one IP () in the meantime DHCP gives me other IP. What should I do to fix that?
[08:02] <chilli0> Hello , for some reason half of the time a put a usb in my computer it wont show up, but some times it will. And also my CD won't show up.
[08:02] <linsus6> so lucent please how we update it correctly
[08:02] <chenlong> quellhorst:sorry.It wound be "sudo apt-get update" ,then "sudo apt-get upgrade".You also should have a speed soursr server.
[08:04] <chilli0> Hello , for some reason half of the time a put a usb in my computer it wont show up, but some times it will. And also my CD won't show up.
[08:04] <quellhorst> chenlong: its already done and rebooting.
[08:04]  * quellhorst pets his fiber connection
[08:04] <jgb> my keyboard has suddenly started switching to a non-default layout when I open a new window, and holding backspace etc. moves only one character instead of continuing as long as I hold it in... what can cause this?
[08:05] <[SoulRave> hi
[08:05] <[SoulRave> please help me with a problem regarding openssl
[08:05] <ElCerebr0> does anyone know how to set up radio stations in banshee?
[08:05] <[SoulRave> i want to install
[08:06] <chenlong> chilli0:you should download a "ailurus" ,then chose "icons" items.
[08:06] <[SoulRave> http://pastebin.com/YpBtWzFu
[08:06] <[SoulRave> but i have a dependencis problem
[08:06] <chilli0> chenlong, What will this do?
[08:06] <linsus6> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/hd9Fen3g
[08:06] <Colloguy> how do I give one network interface a higher priority than another on ubuntu?
[08:07] <Shvonder> Colloguy: what do you mean by 'high priority'?
[08:07] <chenlong> "ailurus" is a gui tools.you can google it .
[08:08] <kiennd> hi all
[08:08] <kiennd> I'm using ubuntu 10.04. I installed virtualbox 3.2.8 GuestOS is WindowXp. In the WindowXp machine I have a program to configure my device. This program uses an usb to com converter. After installing the driver on my virtual machine appears COM3 (the virtual com), but from my program can not access the device. Please help me how to configure.
[08:08] <[SoulRave> what i have to install to get rid of the dependinces problem?
[08:08] <Colloguy> I'm connected to both my home wifi network and also a usb modem, but I can't use the usb modem to access the internet until I disconnect from my wifi
[08:08] <Colloguy> my wifi network is not internet-connected
[08:08] <jgb> Colloguy: set a default route?
[08:09] <JoeMaverickSett> [SoulRave: try sudo apt-get -f install
[08:09] <jgb> Colloguy: route -n   will show you your current routing table
[08:09] <Colloguy> oh, what is a good starting point for me to find out more about that
[08:09] <Colloguy> oh, thanks!
[08:09] <[SoulRave> JoeMaverickSett: i fave try, nothing
[08:09] <Shvonder> Colloguy: or you have to tune /etc/network/interfaces but in this case NetworkManager don't works
[08:10] <jgb> Colloguy: man route, there are examples at the end
[08:10] <JoeMaverickSett> [SoulRave: according to this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62943 it should work. no?
[08:11] <Syria> Hi, How  can i remove universal access preferences icon on the upper gnome panel?
[08:11] <[SoulRave> JoeMaverickSett http://pastebin.com/SEyBanRj
[08:12] <chilli0> Hello , I would like to make my CD mount. But there is no CD entrys in my fstab or anything, help please I need to make a CD now for a assignmnment.
[08:12] <JoeMaverickSett> [SoulRave: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[08:12] <[SoulRave> JoeMaverickSett ubuntu-10.04-server-i386
[08:13] <chenlong> I think our new user should download a "ailurus" or "ubuntu-tweak".They are useful.At the same time,we can use CLI.But,we don't want do verythings by CLI at START.I think.
[08:15] <chenlong> chilli0:download a "Gmount-iso" from softwarecenter.
[08:16] <kiennd> Hi all, I'm using ubuntu 10.04. I installed virtualbox 3.2.8 GuestOS is WindowXp. In the WindowXp machine I have a program to configure my device. This program uses an usb to com converter. After installing the driver on my virtual machine appears COM3 (the virtual com), but from my program can not access the device. Please help me how to configure.
[08:16] <chilli0> chenlong, I don't want to mount an ISO.
[08:17] <chenlong> chilli0:in the center,you can find what you want.
[08:17] <chilli0> Oh ok.
[08:17] <JoeMaverickSett> [SoulRave: you are using server version of ubuntu, right? so why not try in #ubuntu-server? think you might get better support.
[08:18] <chilli0> chenlong, No that had nothing like what I wanted.
[08:20] <[SoulRave> ok, thx:)
[08:20] <[SoulRave> the channel is empty :)
[08:20] <JoeMaverickSett> [SoulRave: try this one http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/libssl0.9.8-dbg/download i think this is what you need.
[08:23] <chenlong> chilli8:what about  "brasero"?
[08:23] <sander^work> linux-image-2.6.35-22-server - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86_64 <-- How can I install this kernel on 10.04 ?
[08:23] <sander^work> Which apt repository do I need to add?
[08:23] <lucent> sander^work: there's more changes than just kernel version, AFAIK
[08:23] <JoeMaverickSett> [SoulRave: i think you have to put deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main in your /etc/apt/sources.list and update your machine. think the version you need might come up.
[08:24] <lucent> would be a shame to break your userspace.
[08:24] <chenlong> chilli8:maybe jiust "ubuntu-tweak"?
[08:24] <chenlong> or "mount" command?
[08:25] <sander^work> lucent, what do you mean by more changes?
[08:25] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: do you mean to upgrade your kernel version from the normal lucid version to maverick or 2.6.35?
[08:25] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: if so, check this out: https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa
[08:25] <[SoulRave> JoeMaverickSett: i have installed right now, i will see after that
[08:25] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, I mean to only upgrade kernel to maverick.
[08:26] <JoeMaverickSett> [SoulRave: okie. hope it works out. i'm not much of a helper though.
[08:26] <chenlong> chilli8:"mount -a"?
[08:27] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, does it come with updates too?
[08:27] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: yes, it does. that's what i use for my lucid.
[08:30] <rebirth> is there a program that lets you put "tickypads" up over the display?
[08:30] <chenlong> sander~work:"　　sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa && sudo apt-get update" and"　　sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.35-14 linux-headers-2.6.35-14-generic linux-image-2.6.35-14-generic linux-maverick-source-2.6.35" maybe ok.I have done it ok.
[08:30] <rebirth> "stickypads"
[08:30] <rebirth> like a notepad program but the notes stay above other windows
[08:31] <lucent> rebirth: sticky notes are evil, but there is Tomboy note taking app
[08:31] <lucent> I like Tomboy better than annoying sticky notes
[08:32] <rebirth> how does it work?
[08:33] <lucent> rebirth: it doesn't work like sticky notes.  Tomboy is a hyperlinked note taking app
[08:33] <lucent> you can make certain words into links that open other notes
[08:33] <rebirth> like a personal wiki?
[08:33] <maco> rebirth: like your own little wiki
[08:33] <lucent> pro tip for you though, right-click window title of ANY window on your screen, you can set it to stay above other windows
[08:34] <HSR> Does ChatZilla follow Firefox settings?
[08:35] <rebirth> so it's like tiddlywiki but offline
[08:35] <chenlong> HSR:no
[08:35] <rebirth> firefox settings for what?
[08:35] <HSR> chenlong: Then? How can I change its network settings?
[08:37] <chenlong> HSR:"editor" then "N"
[08:37] <HSR> chenlong: There is no editor option..
[08:37] <RusAlex> mornin everyone
[08:38] <kiennd> good afternoon RusAlex
[08:39] <chenlong> HSR:sorry.chatZilla is a FFadtion.
[08:39] <HSR> chenlong: What is FFadtion?
[08:39] <chenlong> HSR:you can chose the "tools" items.
[08:40] <chenlong> HSR:then "additons".
[08:40] <HSR> chenlong: No.  I've only ChatZilla, IRC, Edit, View and Help as option
[08:42] <chenlong> HSR:you can get chatZilla in firefox official  adtions websites.
[08:42] <grouchygaijin> I tried asking this in kbuntu but didn't seem to get any replies - sorry I'm new.  I've lost the ability to type in different languages in open office in KDE although I still can in kate
[08:42] <chenlong> HSR:sorry.I use FF.
[08:42] <HSR> chenlong: Alright. Thanks
[08:43] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, The apt line you use is the same as this one:  http://old.nabble.com/Lucid-LTS-kernel-backport-from-Maverick-preview-td28683796.html .. and I don't see the meta package linux-lts-backport-maverick in there anymore.
[08:44] <ojii> hi everyone
[08:44] <ojii> I get an "error mounting filesystems" when booting my ubuntu 9.10 after latest kernel updates. how can I force GRUB to not autoboot? (I tried holding shift... didn't work)
[08:45] <grouchygaijin> Any one have any ideas why I can switch imput methods in some programs like Kate but not others like open office?
[08:46] <simon^templar> hi
[08:46] <grouchygaijin> Any one have any ideas why I can switch imput methods in some programs like Kate but not others like open office?
[08:47] <nogo> !ubuntu
[08:47] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: in https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa i can see the linux-meta-lts-backport-maverick, if that is what you mean.
[08:47] <grouchygaijin> this is really frusterating
[08:48]  * nogo kicks ppa
[08:48] <cryptopsy> how do i run opengl apps on ubuntu that doesn't have an opengl grpahics card
[08:49] <chenlong> grouchygaijin:Are you all software is lastest?
[08:49] <cryptopsy> was it the mesa drivers that did that?
[08:50] <ojii> how can I force my grub to stay at the menu instead of autoboot (my timeout is 0). not sure if i have grub2 or grub. shift and esc both don't work.
[08:50] <chenlong> crytopsy:download the opengl libs.
[08:51] <chenlong> ojii:do you have windows?
[08:51] <ojii> chenlong, no, just ubuntu
[08:51] <ojii> and since last kernel update on my 9.10 machine i can't boot
[08:52] <chenlong> obji:are you 10.04?
[08:52] <ojii> chenlong, 9.10
[08:52] <nogo> everybody is using 10.04, except .....
[08:52] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, I add that repo with:? apt-get install python-software-properties
[08:52] <sander^work> ; add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[08:53] <ojii> chenlong, just found out, it's grub legacy (I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10), not grub2
[08:53] <chenlong> obji:maybe you should burn a livecd?
[08:54] <chenlong> obji:9.10 is not LTS.it's bug is much.
[08:54] <ojii> chenlong, i just need to boot the second latest kernel :( I even see the menu splashing, but can't keep it to stay
[08:54] <ojii> chenlong, I might upgrade to 10.04 after this, but for now i need it to boot first :(
[08:54] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: should be... sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[08:55] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: btw, what is the python-software-properties for?
[08:55] <chenlong> obji:maybe press the dowload shot key?
[08:55] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, to install the add-apt-repository command.
[08:56] <chenlong> obji:The down arrow key.
[08:56] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: i've never seen that before,if you are just adding the ppa, in this case, it should be just sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa
[08:57] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, I didn't have the add-apt-repository untill I installed python-software-properties
[08:57] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, ok.
[08:57] <aroman> hey guys, when installing some packages I'm getting this error (with dpkg)  depends on gconf2 (>= 2.28.1-2); however:   Version of gconf2 on system is 2.28.1-0ubuntu1. How can I install the newer version? Thanks!
[08:57] <stuk_gen> hi :) can i ask some question about use of grep'
[08:57] <stuk_gen> ?*
[08:58] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: hhmm, weird. you are using ubuntu, of course?
[08:58]  * nogo kicks stuk_gen to #bash
[08:58] <chenlong> obji:you needn't enter the old kernel,in actually.
[08:58] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, ubuntu server.
[08:59] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: ah, okie. i'm not really familiar with server version, though. :)
[08:59] <llutz_> ojii: do you have any linux live-cd, you can boot from?
[08:59] <nogo> i am happy with my usb ubuntu
[08:59] <ojii> llutz_, no
[08:59] <llutz_> !ot > nogo
[09:00] <llutz_> ojii: get one to repair your menu.lst. set "#timeout" (comment it) to make the menu stay
[09:00] <ojii> llutz_, the repair shell i get can't write files
[09:00] <llutz_> ojii: "timeout 0 "  means, don't wait, just boot the default
[09:00] <StaRetji> Hi there folks. What would be lifetime of usb stick if I install ubuntu on it, just like on plain hard drive? Any help regarding this would be highly appreciated
[09:01] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kernel-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  403  Forbidden
[09:01] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, when I do: apt-get update (after adding the repo).
[09:01] <chenlong> obji:you needn't enter old kernel.
[09:01] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, I suspect thats why I cant get up package linux-lts-backport-maverick
[09:02] <ojii> chenlong, yes i do to boot this thing
[09:02] <ojii> chenlong, also your nick autocomplete fails
[09:02] <plitter> hello, i've been trying new kernels to see if my problems will disappear with a newer kernel, but till now not found anything. Is there a way to uninstall the kernels that i have so that i wont have to scroll all the way down to the one that i want to use?
[09:02] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: try asking in #ubuntu-server also. :)
[09:04] <kibibyte> http://techrights.org/2010/09/28/document-foundation-and-libreoffice/
[09:04] <chenlong> obji:sorry,i have no ideas.i'm not good at english.
[09:04] <grouchygaijin> I'm having trouble with the language input method - I can switch languages in Kate or example but not open office.
[09:04] <cryptopsy> how do i serach for pkgs in ubuunt
[09:04] <ojii> chenlong, don't worry, got a livecd now
[09:05] <llutz_> cryptopsy: apt-cache search
[09:05] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, I have another machine where that package exist on that mirror.
[09:05] <xbonesx> any really good plymouth boot screens out their?
[09:06] <JoeMaverickSett> sander^work: might want to try that..if all else fails, trying asking in #ubuntu-server
[09:06] <chenlong> obji:What's you last sentence means?please.
[09:07] <StaRetji> What would be lifetime of usb stick if I install ubuntu on it, just like on plain hard drive? Any help regarding this would be highly appreciated. In other words, how long it will run until USB stick dies?
[09:07] <sander^work> JoeMaverickSett, asking there now.
[09:07] <chenlong> "nick ... fails"?
[09:07] <maedox> plitter: how did you install them? they can be removed with synaptic, apt-get or aptitude.
[09:08] <karthee>  Hi .. THere is an entry my ldap's ldif .. but ldapsearch is showing 0 success .. any ideas please ?
[09:08] <plitter> maedox: i downloaded them from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ then used sudo dpkg -i on them
[09:09] <kiennd> I'm using ubuntu 10.04. I installed virtualbox 3.2.8 GuestOS is WindowXp. In the WindowXp machine I have a program to configure my device. This program uses an usb to com converter. After installing the driver on my virtual machine appears COM3 (the virtual com), but from my program can not access the device. Please help me how to solve this problem
[09:09] <grouchygaijin> Anyone understand how to use ibus and input method selector to switch languages?
[09:10] <mikubuntu> i have a 'new' hp scanner that a friend gave me, and it seems to be working right as far as saving images, but it is saving them in a .pnm filetype and open office doesn't seem to be able to open it
[09:11] <maedox> plitter: « man dpkg » ;)
[09:11] <maedox> plitter: I'll give you a moment to figure it out :D
[09:11] <chenlong> grouchygaijin:"Ctrl+space" call out and "Ctrl+Shift" switch.
[09:12] <Voting> If I want to understand what's going on w/ my network IO, should I use saidar? or what?
[09:13] <grouchygaijin> Hi all
[09:13] <tripelb> I bought a sansa fuze player from woot. computer doesnt recognize. sandisk lists no linux system. Oh no.  What can I do? computer does not see it.
[09:13] <mikubuntu> omg.  i just tried to open the .pnm scanned file with open office and i notice in the file browser its 131 mb's!!! how can that be?
[09:14] <Voting> how should I monitor network IO involving this particular box?
[09:14] <grouchygaijin> How can I switch languages in open office?  I can switch in Kate but not OO.
[09:14] <Voting> saidar any good?
[09:14] <pw-toxic> hi, when i do ping jabba2 i can ping myself on my computer, but other computers in the network cant do "ping jabba2"
[09:15] <pw-toxic> what do i have to do to make other computers know that my compuer is called jabba2?
[09:16] <plitter> maedox: sudo dpgk --purge linux-headers<myinstalled> linux-image<myinstalled>
[09:16] <plitter> maedox: right?:)
[09:17] <chenlong> mikbuntu:"ppmtobmp -bpp=24 a.pnm >a.bmp" or "Winamp" software.
[09:17] <maedox> plitter: yes :)
[09:18] <plitter> maedox: yay:D thanks:)
[09:19] <maedox> plitter: np. just make sure you keep the correct one.
[09:19] <plitter> maedox: i'm guessing its the linux-generic:)
[09:19] <chenlong> kiennd:Maybe you should download a usb driver.
[09:20] <kiennd> chenlong, I searched in google but not found
[09:20] <maedox> plitter: depends. that's the latest one.
[09:20] <kiennd> but i think no need
[09:21] <rebirth> how do you change the number of workspaces?
[09:21] <kiennd> because when I used a 3G usb
[09:21] <chenlong> kienned:Is it a spacial usb?
[09:21] <kiennd> It can change usb to com without any driver
[09:22] <plitter> maedox: it doesnt say any number, but there is a linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic, the others are stuff that i installed:P
[09:22] <chenlong> huhu,maybe xp doesn't support 3G usb.
[09:22] <kiennd> chenlong, Is it a spacial usb --> it a pl2303 usb-com converter
[09:22] <rebirth> missing manual: Workspace Switcher Applet Manual
[09:23] <kiennd> chenlong, when I use 3G usb is OK
[09:23] <Kartagis> mencoder -of lavf -lavfopts format=mp4 -oac lavc -ovc lavc -lavcopts aglobal=1:vglobal=1:acodec=libmp3lame:abitrate=128:vcodec=mpeg4:keyint=25 -ofps 25 -af lavcresample=44100 -vf harddup,scale=320:-3 -mc 0 -noskip filename.avi -o filename.mp4 -sub filename.srt -subcp UTF-8 <--- I have this line but audio is not in sync with the video. any help for me?
[09:23] <maedox> plitter: linux-generic is a link to the latest generic kernel. you can see the version with aptitude show linux-generic
[09:23] <kiennd> but when I use PL2303 usb-com converter is not OK
[09:23] <chenlong> soory,idon't know it.
[09:24] <kiennd> use command dmesg I found mesage: usb 4-1: usbfs: process 31817 (VirtualBox) did not claim interface 0 before use
[09:26] <chenlong> kienned:Do you set the usb option in V-B?
[09:28] <chenlong> kienned:Maybe you should ask V-B community.
[09:29] <kiennd> chenlong, thanks
[09:32] <chenlong> Kartagis:Do you have decodes?
[09:33] <plitter> maedox: wish me luck, rebooting:P
[09:33] <maedox> plitter: good luck :D
[09:33] <meeeeee> i'v tried using ubuntu and mint as well...both get the same problem...after a while my cpu fans stop working n system gets over heated
[09:33] <plitter> maedox: thanks:D
[09:34] <Kartagis> chenlong decodes meaning codecs?
[09:35] <chenlong> Kartagis:codecs.My english is poor.ha~
[09:36] <nogo> codex
[09:36] <nogo> pl.
[09:37] <Kartagis> chenlong yes, all video and audio are okay, just they are not in sync
[09:38] <chenlong> what player?
[09:38] <bffs> which format?
[09:39] <nogo> every format, iirc
[09:40] <meeeeee> i'v tried using ubuntu and mint as well...both get the same problem...after a while my cpu fans stop working n system gets over heated
[09:40] <industrial> I have a problem with adding entries to GDM. I have done sudo cp /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/dwm.desktop and changed the contents accordingly (pointing to an executeable in my user's homedir (but I don't mind)). I do not get my dwm entry in the list of dwm. I'm dogin something wrong but I don't know what.
[09:41] <chenlong> Kartagis:set "audio" not be delay.
[09:41] <Kartagis> chenlong my phone. bffs mp4
[09:43] <chenlong> see above.Or maybe get a better player,i think.
[09:44] <[nTo]xShadyx> hello god people of the interwebs
[09:44] <chenlong> ha~ What kind of phone?Is it use ubuntu?ha~
[09:44] <nogo> meeeeee: you can sleep but you can't wake up, thanks to asus
[09:44] <[nTo]xShadyx> i have a question for u
[09:45] <glebihan> !ask | [nTo]xShadyx
[09:47] <[nTo]xShadyx> Me and some friends have a project on school where we are going to set up a server... here we have used Ubuntu Server, we have a bitt of experience before but!
[09:47] <[nTo]xShadyx> We cant get the internet connection, it gets an ip and we can ping different sites but to get internet connnectivity we need
[09:47] <[nTo]xShadyx> to logg on with username and pw to get internet.
[09:47] <[nTo]xShadyx> This usally pops up when  try to open our web browser on our laptops but how do we logg on in the console?
[09:47] <[nTo]xShadyx> The system that the school uses is the Microsoft Domain controll...
[09:47] <[nTo]xShadyx> Thx 4 anny help!
[09:47] <FloodBot2> [nTo]xShadyx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:48] <jpds> [nTo]xShadyx: user/pass to get internet?
[09:49] <[nTo]xShadyx> yes
[09:49] <[nTo]xShadyx> we need to logg on with the user we have been given
[09:49] <boywonder> hi can anyone plse tell me how to activate vnc terminal client?
[09:49] <jpds> [nTo]xShadyx: So, use SSH or something like that?
[09:49] <[nTo]xShadyx> well wont work when we dont have internet on the server AT ALL
[09:50] <jpds> boywonder: System → Prefs → Remote Desktop?
[09:50] <jpds> [nTo]xShadyx: But it has an IP address and you can ping from it?
[09:50] <jpds> [nTo]xShadyx: So it has connectivity?
[09:50] <[nTo]xShadyx> yes
[09:50] <[nTo]xShadyx> we only have terminal and nothing more installed at the moment
[09:51] <boywonder> jpds that for the server not client?
[09:51] <[nTo]xShadyx> the server
[09:51] <maedox> [nTo]xShadyx: do you need a browser to auth? you could use « links ».
[09:51] <jpds> boywonder: Client: Apps → Internet → Remote Desktop Viewer.
[09:51] <Qwert_> I'm looking for good netbook in terms of performance. Which channel I can go for?
[09:51] <jpds> [nTo]xShadyx: What are you trying to accomplish?
[09:51] <llutz_> [nTo]xShadyx: i guess you need something like curl to login
[09:52] <astier> hi, ubuntu supports wpa2 wlan with the Live-CD right? can I create a way to automatically connect to a wlan network (as a kind of rescue CD)
[09:52] <astier> Qwert_: #hardware
[09:53] <minerzero69> is anyone running backtrack?
[09:53] <maedox> Qwert_: http://searchirc.com/
[09:53] <[nTo]xShadyx> to get internet so we can acsess sites to download pacages... we cant install curl when it cant acsess the internet
[09:53] <llutz_> !backtrack > minerzero69
[09:53] <riya>
[09:53] <[nTo]xShadyx> the server dont have wireless card
[09:53] <maedox> [nTo]xShadyx: download the package to a usb-stick and copy it over?
[09:53] <tensorpudding> [nTo]xShadyx: perhaps you should talk with the network admin
[09:54] <astier> [nTo]xShadyx: wget. might be be part of the ubuntu default install
[09:54] <atan> I'm trying to tunnel traffic over OpenVPN but think I'm getting messed up with the routing on the ubuntu box. The VON connects but I can't re-route all my traffic to the vpn. No idea why. Anyone here able to assist?
[09:54] <[nTo]xShadyx> we tried talking to the admin
[09:54] <[nTo]xShadyx> the usb stick can be posible
[09:54] <[nTo]xShadyx> how are we going to do that
[09:54] <[nTo]xShadyx> ?
[09:54] <boywonder> jpds, im trying to connect to a windows machine?
[09:55] <tensorpudding> [nTo]xShadyx: does your school's network policy allow for private servers anyway?
[09:55] <ojii> is there alternatives to a reinstall when I get "General error mounting filesystems" on boot after an update? Mounting the FS from livecd works without problems
[09:55] <[nTo]xShadyx> kinda...
[09:55] <llutz_> ojii: check UUIDs and /etc/fstab using the live-cd
[09:55] <minerzero69> does anyone know how to bridge connections is ubuntu?
[09:55] <[nTo]xShadyx> the network admin have nothing against it but it is our county that are making troubles
[09:56] <cryptopsy> which mesa file do i have to install if i want to run opengl apps?
[09:56] <ojii> llutz_, uuid is correct
[09:56] <karthee> hi .. does any logs get produce when I do ldapseach ??
[09:56] <tensorpudding> [nTo]xShadyx: what do you mean?
[09:56] <llutz_> ojii: also checked menu.lst for correct UUID/dev ?
[09:56] <[nTo]xShadyx> how are we going to copy files from an usb stick over to the server?
[09:57] <minerzero69> if you know how to bridge connectioms in ubuntu, pm me
[09:57] <llutz_> [nTo]xShadyx: if you don't know how to copy a file, you shouldn't even think about running a server
[09:57] <[nTo]xShadyx> well we are doing this to learn
[09:58] <iceroot> [nTo]xShadyx: mount the stick and then use cp
[09:58] <minerzero69> drag and drop
[09:58] <iceroot> minerzero69: a server dont have a gui :)
[09:58] <[nTo]xShadyx> indeed
[09:58] <minerzero69> sorry, i am used to making one
[09:59] <llutz_> ojii: check the "root" and the "kernel" lines from menu.lst for correct devices
[09:59] <maedox> [nTo]xShadyx: sorry, I got a phone call. You can download packages without installing with apt-get -d package
[09:59] <maedox> [nTo]xShadyx: you might get more support in #ubuntu-server
[09:59] <tensorpudding> [nTo]xShadyx: You probably need to talk to your network admin, not us.
[09:59] <iceroot> [nTo]xShadyx: mkdir /mnt/mystick; mount /dev/sdXX /mnt/mystick; cp /mnt/mystick/yourfiles /place/to/put/them
[09:59] <[nTo]xShadyx> ok thx for all the help :D
[09:59] <ojii> llutz_, they're the same uuid's in menu.lst, what do you mean with "dev"?
[09:59] <[nTo]xShadyx> we apriciate it
[09:59] <llutz_> ojii: device
[10:00] <tensorpudding> [nTo]xShadyx: do you have a physical connection to the LAN or are you using a VPN?
[10:00] <[nTo]xShadyx> and sory for my bad english
[10:00] <[nTo]xShadyx> physical connection to the LAN
[10:00] <chenlong> [nTo]xSha:server also can use gui.
[10:00] <llutz_> ojii: /dev/sdXY when not using labels or UUIDs
[10:00] <ojii> llutz_, all looks sane to me
[10:01] <iceroot> llutz_: its there alway a wrapper for uuid -> /dev/sdX? so i always have /dev/sdX?
[10:01] <astier> karthee: grep -i -r ldap /var/log/*
[10:02] <maedox> [nTo]xShadyx: do you have another machine with linux and ssh access to the server?
[10:02] <astier> iceroot: yes you always have sdX (or hdX)
[10:02] <llutz_> iceroot: i don't think so, maybe udev can do that
[10:02] <karthee> astier: that contains the full logs .. I just want to  see what happend to my ldapsearch ..
[10:02] <astier> llutz_: sdX is set up by the kernel drivers. you always have those
[10:02] <ojii> llutz_, my menu.lst is http://ri.ms/ojiimenulst
[10:02] <iceroot> llutz_: if i am correct i saw a udev-uuid-wrapper-init-script on lenny
[10:02] <karthee> astier: I am having an entry which is there in  ldif, but ldapsearch is showing result: 0 .. \
[10:03] <iceroot> karthee: failed.ldif?
[10:03] <minerzero69> so is there a way to share an internet connection using ubuntu?
[10:03] <llutz_> astier: thats not the thing. you cannot be sure that UUID=123-321 always will be /dev/sdaX without external tools
[10:03] <iceroot> !ics | minerzero69
[10:04] <llutz_> iceroot: i always use UUIDs or labels so i don't care about device-names
[10:04] <astier> llutz_: agreed there
[10:04] <karthee> iceroot: ldif was successfully created .. that is I took a dump of my ldap .. Few entries which are there in the ldif file are not showing in the ldapseach .
[10:04] <minerzero69> thank you
[10:04] <kelvinella> is there phpmyadmin channel here?
[10:04] <iceroot> llutz_: i dont know if uuids are a good or bad thing, never had anything to do with them
[10:04] <iceroot> karthee: then i guess your ldapsearch is wrong
[10:05] <llutz_> iceroot: imho good thing, make things easier when changing drives/using external drives etc
[10:05] <iceroot> karthee: maybe you need an authenticated search?
[10:05] <karthee> iceroot: I checked with other entries also ..  Most of them are working . Few of them are failing ..
[10:05] <karthee> iceroot: yes I am doing authenticated search ..
[10:06] <iceroot> karthee: or maybe they are not in the index, so you cant use ldapsearch -x uid=foobar  you have to use the complete dn
[10:06] <iceroot> karthee: maybe try #openldap too
[10:06] <DjAngo23> Hey everyone, i' m looking for some info about NFS. I already added to /etc/fstab etc, but i am wondering if there is some kind of user permission. Is there a authentification possibility ? Or can we assign user and rights to the files ?
[10:06] <iceroot> kelvinella: #phpmyadmin i guess
[10:06] <karthee> iceroot: #openldap no response for 2 days ..
[10:06] <kelvinella> \j #phpmyadmin
[10:06] <ojii> llutz_, anything obviously wrong you see in the menu.lst i pasted?
[10:07] <karthee> iceroot: its the same level entries, for few of them its failing but for the others its working ..
[10:07] <iceroot> DjAngo23: with nfsv4, there is
[10:07] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: You can do host-based exports
[10:07] <llutz_> ojii: oh sorry, i don't have www here, so i cannot look.
[10:07] <iceroot> karthee: sounds strange for me
[10:07] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: and with NFS shares, the owners and permissions are mapped
[10:07] <ojii> :(
[10:07] <karthee> iceroot: Can you advice if few entries can be missed in indexing ?
[10:07] <iceroot> DjAngo23: nfvs4 can do user-authentication
[10:07] <ojii> llutz_, you don't have www, but are on IRC?
[10:08] <iceroot> ojii: why not?
[10:08] <llutz_> ojii:yes
[10:08] <Rods_Tiger> I installed a dual boot system for someone and they are scared by the grub screen and refuse to use it now
[10:08] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: so files owned by UID 1001 on the NFS share, will appear to be owned by UID 1001 when mounted on the client.
[10:08] <ojii> llutz_, can I PM it to you?
[10:08] <astier> ojii: what is the problem you have with your boot up?
[10:08] <llutz_> ojii: sure
[10:08] <ojii> astier, "General error mounting filesystems"
[10:09] <astier> ojii: does the fs mount alright when in the livecd? ran fsck on it?
[10:09] <astier> ojii: and when does this "general error" coming up?
[10:09] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorisitaion, how do i get it?
[10:09] <astier> ojii: from what I remember linux kernel/mount messages are diffedrent
[10:09] <Rods_Tiger> can grub2 limit the amount of irrelevant technical nonsense shown, and just show two choices, even when the kernel has been updated?
[10:09] <DjAngo23> Okay, that appears clear to me. What i have is a server with a NFS share, but i don' t want everyone to be able to change the files. Some folder should be editable for some user, and for some other user editable.
[10:10] <llutz_> ojii: grep -v ^# menu.lst            would have been shorter :)
[10:10] <DjAngo23> for iceroot and tensorpudding
[10:10] <tripelb> I bought a sansa fuze player from woot. computer doesnt recognize. sandisk lists no linux system. Oh no.  What can I do? computer does not see it.  -- no answer in an hour. Any chance now. I'm ready to go to sleep...
[10:10] <erUSUL> Rods_Tiger: you can remove old kernels frm synaptic
[10:10] <Rods_Tiger> they can't
[10:10] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it?
[10:10] <astier> duffs-main: sudo/gksu
[10:10] <ojii> astier, yes it does
[10:10] <ojii> astier, also it actually does fsck before it tries to boo
[10:10] <duffs-main> what?
[10:10] <ojii> astier, when i boot my notebook after the kernel update i did yesterday, it's 9.10 btw
[10:10] <duffs-main> astier what?
[10:10] <Rods_Tiger> it has to be easy for them to use - they refuse to touch it now because grub is too technical and confusing for them
[10:10] <ojii> llutz_, true, sorry
[10:10] <FloodBot2> ojii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: you can reflect that in the file permissions
[10:11] <astier> duffs-main: you need to have admin rights to change the date
[10:11] <tripelb> well I guess it's back to windows.
[10:11] <ojii> o.O? why does floodbot complain about my PMs?
[10:11] <duffs-main> Yes, astier, i do
[10:11] <astier> ojii: not your PMs
[10:11] <ojii> I'm not spamming :(
[10:11] <duffs-main> So, how astier?
[10:11] <iceroot> DjAngo23: the problem is that nfs is only using uids, so if you create a file belonging to root (uid=1??) then any other root (also have uid=1) is owner of the file
[10:11] <astier> welcome to computer "intelligence". it doesn't always work ojii
[10:12] <ojii> astier, indeed, anyway. got any idea about my boot issues?
[10:12] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it?
[10:12] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it?
[10:12] <astier> duffs-main: read up on how to become "root" or "admin" via sudo in the ubuntu docs
[10:12] <DjAngo23> iceroot, okaym, i understand bit more now.
[10:12] <astier> ojii: I asked you something
[10:12] <duffs-main> Thanks astier, I know my own password, How do i do it?
[10:12] <rebirth> how do i change the # of workspaces?
[10:12] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: the permissions are passed along as is, so in order to use NFS you have to be able to have the same UID's
[10:12] <ojii> astier, it comes after fsck
[10:13] <ojii> (which passses afaik)
[10:13] <duffs-main> Thanks astier, I know my own password, How do i do it?
[10:13] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it?
[10:13] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: there is the noroot option to prevent root from transfering over
[10:13] <astier> !repeat > duffs-main
[10:13] <DjAngo23> But because i' m not logging in into the server, i can mount the NFS share from the server. It just doesn' t recognize in anyway wich user i am on the server. Like for example de FTP protocol.
[10:14] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it?
[10:14] <DjAngo23> My goel is assigning the same forlder to different users like the ftp protocol, so that i can manage users permissions. But still i want to mount that file localy.
[10:14] <Andrey_ubuntu> hello. When I run video, it is dark. How I can reinstall all codecs?
[10:15] <astier> Andrey_ubuntu: which videoplayer?
[10:15] <riya> what is .deb file
[10:15] <astier> riya: a .deb file is what software for ubuntu comes in. "installers"
[10:15] <tensorpudding> riya: it's a tarball full of binary stuff, and some information useful for dpkg
[10:15] <meeeeee> is it possible tht if i am using ubuntu bu installing it via wubi...so my ubuntu installation can have issues? like after some time (random times sometimes its after 30 mins sometimes more) my screen goes black shows some message about pulse audio and below tht about battery state ...but after showing this for 30 seconds the monitor goes black and starts blinking and only option is to restart...m very new to linux and ubuntu
[10:15] <xbonesx> are there any really big differences between linux mint and ubuntu?
[10:15] <chenlong> obji:maybe you can boot by live-cd and take out the important dates with usb disk,then make a new 10.04 ubuntu.
 in all totem and vlc. I have reinstalled their with mode --purge but it didn't help
[10:16] <riya> astier ok.. means we install it in red-hat linux
[10:16] <astier> riya: ask redhat, not us. we do ubuntu support only
[10:16] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it? I know my own password
[10:16] <tensorpudding> riya: Red Hat uses RPM, which is an entirely different format.
[10:17] <DjAngo23> tensorpudding, iceroot :But because i' m not logging in into the server, i can mount the NFS share from the server. It just doesn' t recognize in anyway wich user i am on the server. Like for example de FTP protocol.
[10:17] <astier> Andrey_ubuntu: try reinstalling ffmpeg, tho usually vlc has everything compiled in
[10:17] <DjAngo23> tensorpudding, iceroot : My goal is assigning the same forlder to different users like the ftp protocol, so that i can manage users permissions. But still i want to mount that file localy.
[10:17] <tensorpudding> riya: There *might* be a tool to convert, but it's probably not worth it.
[10:17] <tensorpudding> riya: You're better off compiling from source and building an RPM package
[10:17] <astier> tensorpudding: there is. alien, but we still don#t support rh here :)
 I have reinstalled already.
[10:17] <chenlong> obji:Next time,you can upgrade the kernel only at first,then upgrade softwares.
[10:17] <tensorpudding> riya: I thought alien converted RPM to DEB, not the other way around
[10:18] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it? I know my own password
[10:18] <iceroot> DjAngo23: nfsv4 is recognising the user
[10:18] <iceroot> DjAngo23: i dont know if ubuntu has nfsv4
 I can make screenshot
[10:19] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it? I know my own password
[10:20] <erUSUL> duffs-main: system>admin...>date and time. has a button to unlock the permissions
[10:20] <Richiie> Anyone knows any war simulation software ?
[10:20] <chenlong> duffs-main:"sudo date ..."
[10:20] <tensorpudding> duffs-main: use sudo
[10:20] <astier> duffs-main: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Ubuntu%20Time%20Management
[10:20] <kjelle> Hello. How can I take 1 self-signed certificate, and verify that another certificate is signed with this self-signed certificate?
[10:22] <Richiie> Anyone knows about any War simulation software ?
[10:22] <chenlong> kjelle:"system"->"sysyem manager"->"user and group"
[10:22] <kjelle> chenlong: ?
[10:22] <industrial> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/NonGraphicalBoot Option 3 DOES NOT work. I can n ot get GDM not to start at boot.
[10:22] <industrial> the symlinkx are not there in /etc/rc*.d/ but it WILL start anyway
[10:22] <chenlong> kjelle:that is gui
[10:23] <Andrey_ubuntu> astier: http://xmages.net/show.php/1849765_screenshot-png.html
[10:23] <llutz_> industrial: add "text" to the grub boot-options
[10:23] <industrial> thats a fucked up solution man, I remove gdm and the OS decides to do it anyway, that's just wrong.
[10:23] <industrial> but thanks
[10:23] <erUSUL> Richiie: "War simulation software" ? a game?
[10:23] <kjelle> chenlong: hmm ok
[10:24] <maco> !language | industrial
[10:24] <astier> Andrey_ubuntu: video driver issue perhaps?
[10:24] <maco> industrial: option 3 does not remove gdm. "sudo apt-get remove gdm" removes gdm
[10:24] <llutz_> industrial: seems to be the way upstart/gdm2 handle that stuff today.
[10:24] <duffs-main> Hey, I'm trying to change my time/date but it says I don't have authorization, how do i get it? I know my own password
[10:24] <kjelle> chenlong: I have no system manager :)
[10:24] <maco> industrial: option 3 just gets rid of the init scripts...or /would/ if ubuntu used init. which it doesnt anymore
[10:24] <llutz_> !runlevel > industrial
[10:24] <kjelle> I was more wondering if I could e.g. use OpenSSL to do it.
[10:24] <chenlong> that is just a items.
[10:25] <astier> kjelle: you can. get a howto of the form "how to create your own CA"
[10:25] <chenlong> ubuntu desktop must has it.
[10:25] <astier> kjelle: but kinda OT for #ubuntu...
[10:25] <industrial> I guess theres a new way of configuring grub aswell since I can't find my grub menu.lst ...
[10:25] <erUSUL> !grub2 | industrial
[10:26] <duffs-main> How do i run as root?   If an answer is an answer than your not the right person. Astier, never talk to me
[10:27] <maco> !language | duffs-main
[10:27] <kjelle> astier: OT?
[10:27] <thune3> !rootshell | duffs-main
[10:27] <Leroy> duffs-main: you can type sudo before the command you want to do
[10:27] <astier> kjelle: how to run your own CA is Offtopic here, yes
[10:28] <chenlong> ubottu:rebboot ->"covery mode"->"sudo login".but it's dangous!
[10:28] <duffs-main> Leroy, I want to change my time to whatever I want it to be
[10:28] <astier> duffs-main: I gave you a link to a page (official ubuntu docs) which tells you how to do it several ways. choose one
[10:29] <Leroy> duffs-main: sudo date
[10:29] <duffs-main> Astier, I told you that not only is that page wrong, but for you yo NOT talk to me
[10:29] <astier> kjelle: http://www.google.de/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-36,GGLJ:de&q=how+to+create+a+CA
[10:30] <astier> kjelle: has some howtos for me.
[10:30] <chenlong> duffs-main:"date" command includes time setting.
[10:30] <duffs-main> chenlong, what?
[10:30] <astier> chenlong: you're funny. you're right too but do you honestly thing he can figure out how touse it?
[10:30] <astier> *think
[10:31] <chenlong> "date" can set date and time.
[10:31] <shatly> duffs-main: what you trying to do?
[10:31] <duffs-main> How chenlog?!
[10:31] <Leroy> http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?date
[10:31] <duffs-main> shatly, I'm trying to gain root access to my own computer. I know my password..
[10:31] <folivora> Hello, any clue about this: add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable. I get this error: <urlopen error [Errno 111] Connection refused>
[10:31] <deena> Hi i installed ubuntu 10.04 while using internet it seems to be slow.. any idea is there needs to be updated?
[10:31] <industrial> llutz_, maco, erUSUL; thanks got it working now. Is there any reason for the 'old' system to still be in place if Ubuntu no longer uses it? This confused me because the Ubuntu docs referenced it aswell as the rest of google.
[10:31] <industrial> (the init system)
[10:31] <duffs-main> Leroy none of those are right, ever
[10:32] <astier> industrial: fallback. historical reasons
[10:32] <maco> industrial: older still-supported versions of ubuntu still use it, so the docs for it are still around
[10:32] <Leroy> duffs-main: maybe this will help http://codeghar.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/manage-time-in-ubuntu-through-command-line/
[10:32] <erUSUL> industrial: there are services that still use the old init V system.
[10:32] <chenlong> astier:If he don't want use command,he did't ask.
[10:32] <dancek> duffs-main, a) see `date --help` and `man date` b) did you really read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#root%20account c) you should check your attitude
[10:32] <astier> chenlong: he is not capable of using it, that's all. and he doesn't like if you point him to docs either :)
[10:32] <erUSUL> the conversion is not complete afaik.
[10:32] <maco> industrial: things are migrating to upstart from init, and while i think most/all of the base system has moved, things like apache might not have
[10:33] <maedox> industrial: as an example the postgres-8.4 package in lucid still uses sys-initv or whatever it's called.
[10:33] <maco> sysv-init
[10:33] <rww> apache has, but I assume some things in universe haven't.
[10:33] <maedox> close :D
[10:33] <visof_> is there anyone here playing with games in ubuntu ?
[10:33] <maco> rww: ooh really? i know bind9 hasnt
[10:33] <astier> !anyone
[10:33] <ikonia> visof_: ask your real question
[10:33] <chenlong> astier::)
[10:33] <maedox> visof_: yes, I use Crossover Games to play Steam games once in a while.
[10:34] <thune3> dancek: chenlong: date just print the time, it doesn't do anything else, no?
[10:34] <visof_> i have a error when i try to start ut2004 , is there anyone make it works at ubuntu?
[10:34] <shatly> duffs-main :http://linux.die.net/man/5/sudoers
[10:34] <shatly> you in that?
[10:34] <maedox> ubottu should trigger that automatically whenever someone says "is there anyone" :P
[10:34] <rww> date -s: "set time described by STRING"
[10:34] <dancek> thune3, date --set
[10:34] <rww> yay for manpages.
[10:34] <chenlong> astier:I just and excise my English.
[10:34] <maedox> thune3: you can format the time as you like and also set it with date.
[10:35] <chenlong> And,help someone as I can.
[10:35] <thune3> sorry, i'm on my "other" system, and the manpage doesn't show any of the hwclock functions rolled into date. my apologies
[10:35] <rww> manpages.ubuntu.com <3
[10:35] <chenlong> Gui is neccessary for new user.
[10:36] <thune3> i thought it was so standard that I could rely on this system. ooops
[10:36] <rww> jpc42: now ask for help in here
[10:36] <jpc42> hi ok thanks rww
[10:36] <xeross> Hey, I am trying to install curl but it never finishes, using sudo aptitude install curl it's stuck at unpacking
[10:36] <rww> (to the whole channel, I'm about to go sleep)
[10:37] <jpc42> i request a small help please, i have installed for the first time Ubuntu Server but he don't have requested the root password
[10:37] <jpc42> anyone know if they have a defaut pass ?
[10:37] <llutz_> !root
[10:37] <llutz_> jpc42: ^^
[10:38] <xeross> sudo passwd
[10:38] <xeross> :)
[10:38] <tensorpudding> Do people really ask about the root password in Ubuntu three times an hour?
[10:38] <shatly> To enable the root account (i.e. set a password) use:
[10:38] <shatly> sudo passwd root
[10:38] <shatly> lol
[10:38] <xeross> sudo passwd
[10:38] <xeross> works just fine without the root argument
[10:39] <maedox> !root | jpc42
[10:39] <chenlong> What's "lol" means?
[10:39] <llutz_> tensorpudding: on quiet days
[10:39] <maedox> They should sell t-shirts with « Got sudo? »  xD
[10:39] <rww> chenlong: laugh out loud
[10:39] <chenlong> :)
[10:40] <llutz_> chenlong: "i'm trying to make a lame joke nobody laughs about" = lol
[10:40] <Leroy> lol maedox
[10:40] <tensorpudding> I have to admit, sometimes I forget and wonder why 'su -' isn't working
[10:40] <rebirth> how do i change the # of workspaces?
[10:40] <jpc42> ok thanks for your help, i have understand
[10:41] <skumara> how to check dvd for errors?
[10:41] <xeross> Ok back on topic, curl wont install for some reason
[10:41] <pLr> xeross: errormsg?
[10:42] <xeross> pLr: It's stuck at unpacking
[10:42] <xeross> pLr: 10 minutes now, CTRL+C doesn't work either
[10:42] <chenlong> Is any Chinese here?
[10:42] <llutz_> !cn > chenlong
[10:43] <chenlong> ubottu:how?
[10:43] <astier> chenlong: depends on your irc client
[10:43] <Leroy> chenlong: what irc client you use? there should be a tab to see the private message
[10:43] <astier> chenlong: usually a new window
[10:43] <tensorpudding> rebirth: right-click on the workspace switcher and try configuring it
[10:43] <rebirth> who here uses compiz?
[10:43] <rww> !cn | chenlong
[10:43] <rww> problem solved.
[10:44] <astier> rebirth: ask your specific question please
[10:44] <rebirth> tensorpudding: where can i find the workspace switcher?
[10:44] <rebirth> astier: that was my specific question, i'm curious if it is a popular thing
[10:44] <chenlong> ubottu:Do you have a QQ?
[10:44] <tensorpudding> rebirth: it's usually near the bottom-right of the screen
[10:44] <astier> !popcon
[10:44] <rww> chenlong: ubottu is a bot, so no.
[10:45] <pLr> xeross: i would suggest you kill the process and restart it, you should check process activity before ctrl+c did u see anything?
[10:45] <chenlong> what's "bot"?
[10:45] <rebirth> tensorpudding: it's not
[10:45] <karmic-koala> hi all, how do i change my default chat client from empathy to pidgin, i want pidgin to start when i click on CHAT in messaging menu (indicator applet)
[10:45] <chenlong> :)
[10:45] <astier> chenlong: ubottu is a program, not a human
[10:45] <rww> chenlong: computer program for giving out answers to common questions
[10:45] <icarus-c> chenlong, bot as in robot
[10:45] <Leroy> :)
[10:45] <chenlong> ha~
[10:46] <shatly> whats a chenlong
[10:46] <shatly> =P
[10:46] <icarus-c> /whois  :P
[10:46] <rebirth> i found it, needed to add workspace switcher to the panel
[10:46] <shatly> i like /msg nickserv info
[10:47] <tensorpudding> huh, i honestly forgot how you configure it without using the workspace switcher or the compiz config settings manager
[10:47] <chenlong> what's a "shatly"?
[10:47] <pLr> tensorpudding: try fusion-icon
[10:47] <shatly> well... if you want the full history of my nic we can pm or go over to ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <pLr> tensorpudding: it integrates ccsm
[10:49] <chenlong> I have seen the private message.
[10:49] <xeross> Package file was corrupted apparently
[10:49] <pLr> !cn | chenlong
[10:50] <shatly> lol
[10:50] <pLr> chenlong: you asked for chinese support?
[10:50] <shatly> !offtopic | chenlong
[10:50] <tobiasz> hi there, I've got a little question regarding networking, in Windows there was a command "net view" which displayed all ip adresses of pcs/devices connected to LAN, is there an equivalent in Linux terminal?
[10:50] <chenlong> Is  ubottu made by the lisp?
[10:51] <tensorpudding> tried running fusion-icon for the giggles, and it seemed to make everything go crazy at once
[10:51] <tensorpudding> now my glx-panel seems to have gone invisible
[10:51] <pLr> tobiasz: try netstat -a
[10:51] <chenlong> pLr:Maybe.
[10:51] <pLr> tobiasz: or netstat -ap
[10:51] <Ekips> Hrm, no, net view is about smb shares and the domain
[10:51] <tensorpudding> killed gnome-do also
[10:52] <pLr> chenlong: i do not know but who codes irc bots in lisp anyways?
[10:52] <pLr> tensorpudding: you can switch window managers with the taskbar icon
[10:52] <chenlong> pLr:PHP?
[10:53] <pLr> !ubottu
[10:53] <tensorpudding> pLr: I'm just saying, is that normal behavior for running fusion-icon to crash several running desktop programs?
[10:53] <Ekips> So supybot
[10:55] <tobiasz> pLr this command is nuts :P I just want to see devices connected to my network
[10:56] <Ekips> tobiasz: "net view" shows your smb shares and domain info
[10:56] <Ekips> You need to install and setup samba for that
[10:56] <Ekips> Then you can use net status sessions or net status shares in linux
[10:56] <llutz_> tobiasz: sudo nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24      or whatever network you're in
[10:56] <Ekips> heh
[10:58] <nikolam> Hi. I Have 2 SATA Hdd
[10:58] <rebirth> i run "sudo tasksel install lamp-server" and it says "tasksel: aptitude failed (100)" anyone know why?
[10:58] <maedox> nikolam: keep it all on one line!
[10:58] <pLr> tobiasz: Ekips is correct.. what are you trying to do from your linux machine?
[10:58] <tobiasz> llutz_ there is no such command
[10:59] <pLr> tobiasz: you need to install the nmap package.. what is your goal?
[10:59] <tobiasz> pLr I am trying to get all ip's of pcs/devices connected to my LAN
[10:59] <llutz_> tobiasz: then learn how to install software on your system
[11:00] <tobiasz> I want to check if no one is connecting my network without my knowledge
[11:00] <pLr> tobiasz: right so try "sudo apt-get install nmap" then the command llutz_ typed before
[11:01] <mm3> hello, do you suggest to buy the desktop ubuntu CD?
[11:01] <fabjan> Hello, when I try to add an iso in the startup disc creator by clicking "browse..." nothing happens when I double click an iso or click open with the iso selected
[11:01] <mickster04> mm3: why not download it and burn yourself?
[11:01] <nikolam> Hi. I have 2SATA Hdd, and I have Ubuntu 10.04 on 2 partition on md software Linux RAID1. Now I want to install Windows 7 on 2 primary partitions in RAID0 fakeraid (driver/hardware supported) configuration and retain multiboot so I can continue using my Ubuntu install, like before.  Can I count ubuntu partitions surviving this Windows install after getting back GRUB in?
[11:01] <mickster04> mm3: burn IT yourself*
[11:02] <fabjan> the list "Source disc image (.iso) or CD:" in the GUI has two isos I used before but I can't add anything to the list
[11:02] <Lollipop56> mm3, check my pm
[11:02] <pLr> !vm | nikolam
[11:02] <tassleho1f> I'm trying out Vinagre. It connects to my remote desktop, but doesn't refresh.
[11:02] <mm3> ok thanks
[11:03] <chenlong> mm3:To support ubuntu,it's good.But for other,no necessary,becase you can nurn one CD or DVD.
[11:03] <nikolam> Anyway, does does Ubuntu 10.04+ requres GRUB2 to boot or it could boot using GRUB1 installed by some other OS?
[11:03] <nikolam> (I have small /boot ext2 partition on begining of the disks)
[11:03] <nikolam> I know that pLr I dont want that.
[11:04] <mm3> right, in 10 minutes I'm downloading a full iso lol, not idea it was so fast
[11:04] <chenlong> mm3:so speed!
[11:05] <pLr> nikolam: yes it can, but when installing windows 7 after ubuntu u will face several issues, you should follow a guide
[11:06] <pLr> nikolam: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[11:07] <duffs-main> Hello I keep getting this error, http://img26.imageshack.us/i/123za.png how do i stop it?
[11:07] <mungustas> hi, how do I run a detached screen and a command inside it. I want to send command tro ssh to another server inside screen so I can attach to it later, or see how update or smth. went
[11:08] <chenlong> I have to have a dinner.BYE-BYE!
[11:08] <mickster04> mungustas: screen ?
[11:08] <nikolam> pLr, since I have 1) boot partition 2) primary pratitions i want to make for windows 3)extended partition one raid1 linux second swap I am only afraid if windows would go over some of my partitions (like killing that boot one, etc)
[11:08] <llutz_> mungustas: ctrl-d-a     inside screen
[11:08] <duffs-main> Hello I keep getting this error, http://img26.imageshack.us/i/123za.png how do i stop it?
[11:08] <llutz_> a-d sry
[11:08] <nikolam> thank you for link pLr
[11:08] <mickster04> mungustas: ctrl+a then d
[11:09] <tassleho1f> I have vnc working, sharing the desktop of my user, but I want to be able to do remote login
[11:09] <pLr> nikolam: and it will. it will remove it you must reinstall grub after the windows 7 install
[11:09] <blackbox> !ping
[11:09] <blackbox> laul
[11:09] <thune3> nikolam: ubuntu maintains /vmlinuz and /initrd.img links in /, that would be handy when hand setting grub1 to boot ubuntu. These links get updated with kernel upgrades, so you wouldn't have to update grub after every ubuntu kernel upgrade.
[11:09] <duffs-main> Hello I keep getting this error, http://img26.imageshack.us/i/123za.png how do i stop it?
[11:10] <mungustas> emm
[11:10] <mungustas> me/user does not interact with the screen guys ;]
[11:10] <fabjan> usb-creator0gtk says isoinfo: Unable to find Joliet SVD
[11:10] <mickster04> mungustas: i don't understand....
[11:11] <thune3> duffs-main: is that an attack
[11:11] <nikolam> thune3, so if I understand.. It is better NOT to use separate /boot partition? But to directly boot from / partition and/or using GRUB1 ?
[11:11] <fabjan> when I start it from the command line and add -i ubuntu-10.04-desktop-powerpc.iso which is the iso I wanted to use
[11:11] <duffs-main> thune3, yes an attack on anything not retarded. how do i permanetly kill it
[11:11] <mickster04> mungustas: the screen session is run on a single pc, you can ssh into a server and run a screen session on there then you do the shortcut to get out of screen and you can disconnect. when you later ocme back to the server you screen -r and get back into it
[11:11] <fabjan> well, it says that for any iso I try to supply
[11:11] <mungustas> task: send a e.x update command to another server inside the screen so you can login to that server in the e.x morning and check how it went
[11:11] <duffs-main> Hello I keep getting this error, http://img26.imageshack.us/i/123za.png how do i stop it?
[11:11] <pLr> mickster04: screen has been replaced by byobu
[11:12] <thune3> duffs-main: it is a 1 pixel image, there is only 24bits if information there, not enough to be informative
[11:12] <mickster04> pLr: ?
[11:12] <duffs-main> serious?
[11:12] <mickster04> pLr: well i still use screen?
[11:12] <glebihan> duffs-main: yep
[11:12] <pLr> its integrated into byobu
[11:12] <duffs-main> fuck hold up
[11:12] <frank__> hi
[11:12] <mickster04> pLr: so whats the difference?
[11:12] <glebihan> !language | duffs-main
[11:12] <pLr> mickster04: many additions, try it
[11:12] <frank__> is there a easy way to rip DVDs except using dd? I'd like to have a divx file
[11:13] <pLr> mickster04: some of the monitors are unstable over putty if u use that
[11:13] <ikonia> frank__: dd ?? that shouln't be used to rip DVD's
[11:13] <ikonia> frank__:there are many tools in the ubuntu software repos,
[11:13] <thune3> nikolam: are you trying to pile all your kernels into a single /boot from various OS? that's not necessary. I thought you already have grub1 from other OS, and simply wish to edit the menu.lst to boot ubuntu.
[11:13] <mickster04> pLr: hum:( i like screen, i refer the word :P
[11:13] <frank__> ikonia: can you name some of them, or better: recommend one, please?
[11:13] <maedox> mickster04: alias? :P
[11:14] <pLr> mickster04: its ok everyone has their taste
[11:14] <van7hu> Hi everyone
[11:14] <mickster04> maedox: ah yes of course :P
[11:14] <ikonia> frank__: just do a search for dvd in the repos, a ton should appear
[11:14] <van7hu> I am using lucid
[11:14] <ikonia> frank__: all are good, try some
[11:14] <mickster04> mungustas: so what are you wanting to do..i don't understand
[11:14] <mungustas> mickster04 well if you have more than one server
[11:14] <van7hu> desktop version
[11:14] <mickster04> mungustas: what about that...
 task: send a e.x update command to another server inside the screen so you can login to that server to that screen in the e.x morning and check how it went
[11:15] <nikolam> thune3, well, that is good option. I might install ubuntu-s grub2 inside / of ubuntu and use other system's GRUB1 to do what you are saying.
[11:15] <glebihan> !enter | van7hu
[11:15] <duffs-main> Hello I keep getting this error, http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4459/123cl.png how do i stop it?
[11:15] <thune3> nikolam: exactly, if you leave grub2 and /boot under ubuntu's /, then you could just use the links from grub1 to boot, as you suggest.
[11:16] <van7hu> How can I access a device that its name has space ?
[11:16] <mickster04> nikolam: the screen session has to be on that server though
[11:16] <mungustas> let's say ssh root@server2 'screen -some_fancy_keys_or_workaround 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y'
[11:16] <ikonia> duffs-main: what application is that
[11:16] <mickster04> van7hu: name\ name
[11:16] <duffs-main> system>administration>time and date. ikonia
[11:17] <mickster04> mungustas: you prolly want to ssh into the server, then run screen then do the command...then ctrl+a, d then log out. log back in in the morning
[11:17] <ikonia> duffs-main: what happens when you click the padlock
[11:17] <mickster04> mungustas: prolly = probably*
[11:17] <duffs-main> nothing
[11:17] <nikolam> thune3, Maybe I could only copy now used ubuntu /boot to / /boot and then install grub2 on / before putting another system.
[11:18] <duffs-main> ikonia, what padlock
[11:18] <van7hu> It seem doesn't work
[11:18] <mickster04> van7hu: use the tab key, it autofills
[11:18] <glebihan> van7hu: you can also enclose the name in brackets
[11:18] <ikonia> duffs-main: when you open that application, do you need see an option to say "click here" next to a padlock, or does it open as that photo shows
[11:18] <mickster04> van7hu: fir{tab}st < auto completed
[11:19] <rascal999> if i create a SOCKS tunnel on a linux box, can i force all network activity down it?
[11:19] <duffs-main> ikonia, where is this padlock?
[11:19] <van7hu> -:)
[11:19] <ikonia> rascal999: not all software is socks-ifyable
[11:19] <ikonia> duffs-main: when you open that application, do you need see an option to say "click here" next to a padlock, or does it open as that photo shows
[11:19] <van7hu> it's working,thank you
[11:19] <pLr> mungustas: forget about screen for now, what do u want to do?
[11:19] <duffs-main> ikonia, it just open as the photo shows it
[11:19] <mungustas> mickster04 well i dont want to interact, i want to send command to couple of servers
[11:19] <ikonia> duffs-main: can you please open a terminal and type "id" and paste me the output please
[11:19] <mickster04> pLr: well no, if he does apt-get update he won't be able to check progress afterwards
[11:20] <mungustas> well i searched the web, googled it
[11:20] <mickster04> mungustas: well thats what you'r trying to do in one command anyway?
[11:20] <thune3> nikolam: i'm not sure i followed that one. on a system that has multiple OS and is working great with grub1 from other OS, i'd be inclined to keep it and remove grub1/2 from ubuntu.
[11:20] <duffs-main> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/6VqEFmMG
[11:20] <mungustas> well i think about screen because i want to reattach to it later
[11:21] <ikonia> duffs-main: if you do "sudo apt-get update" what happens ?
[11:21] <pLr> mickster04: you can pipe the output to another file and read that
[11:21] <rascal999> ikonia: ok is it possible to force all network activity which originates from a client connected to this gateway linux box?
[11:21] <mickster04> mungustas: basically you are going to send a command that ssh's into a server, starts a screen session and then run update inside that screen session. you can do it like i said just as well and you can get it done now?
[11:21] <ikonia> rascal999: no
[11:21] <mickster04> pLr: oh yeah
[11:21] <duffs-main> oh god, ikonia, lots of words come out
[11:21] <mungustas> so i want to start a deattached screen with a command inside it, with possibility to get back to that screen and see what happened
[11:21] <ikonia> duffs-main: thats ok - wait for it to finish and just summerise what happens
[11:21] <pLr> mickster04: apt-get install package | tee -a filename
[11:22] <ikonia> duffs-main: do you get asked for a password
[11:22] <duffs-main> ikonia, no
[11:22] <mickster04> mungustas: yeah, so why not just seperate that into a cople of command and its the same thing. however plr is onto something too
[11:22] <mungustas> yeah sure
[11:22] <mungustas> whatever works :)
[11:22] <pLr> mickster04: there are many ways to do this, but your experience level will determine which u like
[11:23] <mungustas> i was reading screen manual and keys
[11:23] <pLr> sry that was 4 mungustas
[11:23] <ikonia> duffs-main: please do "gksudo time-admin" from the command line
[11:23] <mickster04> pLr: :D
[11:23] <duffs-main> IT WORKED
[11:23] <duffs-main> :3 ikonia thanks
[11:23] <MDKDIO> Afternoon :)  Question if ok? (an easy one, just need confirmation)
[11:24] <glebihan> !ask | MDKDIO
[11:24] <pLr> mungustas: you can also try ssh server apt-get install pkg \| tee -a filename, you would see the output from the client
[11:25] <pLr> mungustas: but catching error codes is tricky you should read about it
[11:25] <MDKDIO> I am using 10.04 atm ... and after qbittorrent got updated to 2.04 I am having some issues rel to libtorrent.. Question, libtorrent is not updated for 10.04, but it is for 10.10. Can I use that package instead?
[11:25] <mungustas> yeah hehe :)
[11:25] <pLr> mungustas: looks like &2>3 or something
[11:26] <nikolam> thune3, ok I see. I will do something like that. I am also not sure if updates to Ubuntu will do OK if GRUB is from other system and it is GRUB1. Ok, If understood everything, Ubuntu's Grub2 will stay on Its / and will live happily fo himself.
[11:27] <linux_hacks> How do I remove the un associated programs in the popup menu when we right click on file?
[11:27] <ikonia> linux_hacks: if they where installed by the package manager, removing the package with the package manager should remove them
[11:27] <mungustas> well i was thinking about 'nohup apt-get install pkg -y > /var/log/howitwent.log 2>&1 & || sleep'
[11:28] <icarus-c> linux_hacks, right click on the file -> Properties -> Open with.  remove whatever unnecessary
[11:28] <linux_hacks> ikonia: I need those programs but at the same time I need to remove the assoication of the file to those programs
[11:28] <linux_hacks> icarus-c: oh. .ok let me try
[11:29] <ikonia> ok, check out icarus-c comments
[11:29] <thune3> nikolam: that's fine. if you use the /vmlinux etc links for your grub1 line, it should not need to be changed for kernel upgrades. (set and forget)
[11:29] <thune3> nikolam: s/grub1 line/grub1 entry/
[11:30] <tassleho1f> what's the best way to get remote login/desktop on a 10.04 desktop install? seems xdmcp is not much supported anymore?
[11:30] <mungustas> but on the other hand thought maybe screen can help :)
[11:30] <pLr> mungustas: thats good, but put || echo "OMG its so bad" > /var/log/howit..
[11:30] <linux_hacks> icarus-c: cool.. now I dont see the options but when I click on the file its asking me to run in terminal rather than opening in gedit
[11:30] <nikolam> thune3, yes, that's it. Great :) taht way I could use Grub1 for other os'es. great :)
[11:30] <nikolam> thune3, thanks for support :)
[11:30] <icarus-c> linux_hacks, click open ?
[11:31] <linux_hacks> yes
[11:31] <icarus-c> linux_hacks, and did you select gedit as default?
[11:31] <mungustas> pLr have a version of how to encapsulate this stuff in screen ? :)
[11:31] <icarus-c> linux_hacks, anyway,  remove execute permission of the file then nautilus wouldn't ask to execute in terminal
[11:31] <linux_hacks> icarus-c: how to do that?
[11:31] <icarus-c> linux_hacks, Right click -> Properties -> Permission
[11:32] <linux_hacks> got it. .thank u
[11:32] <linux_hacks> icarus-c: when I remove the execute permission..
[11:32] <linux_hacks> but its still re enabling automatically
[11:33] <abhinav_singh> how to run cron file after every 8 hours
[11:33] <tobiasz> this nmap is some joke
[11:33] <linux_hacks> is it mean I can't change the permission on the file
[11:33] <tobiasz> I need a serious network mapping software
[11:33] <pozic> tobiasz: nmap is the most advanced, AFAIK.
[11:34] <pozic> tobiasz: but considering that you don't even know that 'a software' is wrong, you probably don't know anything.
[11:34] <mickster04> tobiasz: you mean your inability to use nmap is a joke
[11:34] <rob_p> tobiasz: That comment demonstrates your lack of understanding of the utility.
[11:34] <rob_p> tobiasz: nmap is probably the best available!
[11:35] <tobiasz> how come does it list the pc's that are turned off?
[11:35] <MDKDIO> abhinav_singh, I think you'll find the needed info here .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[11:35] <tobiasz> I don't get it
[11:35] <Lollipop56> it lists all connections made
[11:35] <mickster04> tobiasz: if you do some proper searching around i'm sure you can work out how to get it not to show that. anyway maybe the NIC's stay turned on. like on my pc i can use WOL so it stays on
[11:35] <tobiasz> I want to get hostnames not only ip adreses
[11:35] <rob_p> tobiasz: have a look at the manpage.  You'll see, it can do a *whole lot* of things.
[11:36] <tobiasz> rob_p ok
[11:37] <tcollins> morning
[11:37] <chenlong> evening
[11:38] <Lollipop56> speaking of Nmap, what GUI do you guys use/recommend for it?
[11:38] <ewook> gui? :)
[11:38] <erUSUL> zenmap
[11:38] <chenlong> no
[11:38] <tobiasz> I've found NmapSI4 and it doesn't do a thing
[11:38] <tobiasz> it does nothing
[11:38] <tobiasz> retarded program
[11:39] <Lollipop56> Zenmap, kk ^^
[11:39] <tcollins> im trying to get the name of a device in /dev but it wont change when i unplug and replug it in, is there another way to get it?
[11:39] <mickster04> GUI? lol
[11:40] <mickster04> tcollins: /media ?
[11:40] <erUSUL> tcollins: « tail -f /var/log/messages » then plug the device
[11:40] <tcollins> its a usb wifi card
[11:40] <erUSUL> tcollins: a wifi card wont appear in /dev/
[11:41] <erUSUL> tcollins: it will appear in « iwconfig » output as wlan0 probably
[11:41] <tcollins> how can i eject it then?
[11:41] <erUSUL> tcollins: just unplug
[11:41] <tcollins> i need to do it in software
[11:41] <skramer_> hi, I have an old wacom artpad 2 (KT 0405R) which used to work with some tweaks in previous versions of Ubuntu, but it seems I can't get it to work under 10.04?
[11:42] <erUSUL> tcollins: maybe you could use rfkill to block it
[11:42] <mickster04> tcollins: why?
[11:42] <erUSUL> tcollins: « sudo rfkill list all » see if the wifi appears there.
[11:42] <st__> WTF?: /init: 241: cannot open /root/dev/console: Nosuch file then kernel panic not syncing: attempt to kill init! ?
[11:42] <ikonia> st__: please control your language
[11:42] <skramer_> anybody knows what to do to make it work again? it's a serial tablet connected to to  /dev/ttyS0 or COM1, respectively
[11:43] <tcollins> wifi does appear there
[11:43] <tcollins> so hard blocking it will do it?
[11:43] <erUSUL> skramer_: serial input devices need a command issued at boot for them to work ... let me digg it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[11:44] <st__> what is /root/dev/console?
[11:44] <erUSUL> tcollins: hard is via some hardware element a button or something. you can soft block it with rfkill
[11:44] <ikonia> st__: it should be /dev/console - it's the device file for the console
[11:44] <erUSUL> st__: well something is wrong. should be /dev/console
[11:45] <erUSUL> tcollins: try --> sudo rfkill phy0 block
[11:46] <st__> bah it was some trashy kernel booting by default
[11:47] <skramer_> erUSUL: I see, but what <protocol option> do I have to set for a serial Wacom tablet?
[11:48] <erUSUL> skramer_: that i dunno; sorry.
[11:49] <erUSUL> skramer_: inputattach --help shows a list. you can try some of them
[11:50] <webvictim> has anyone managed to fix issues with an intel core graphics chipset (8086:0046) on lucid?
[11:50] <webvictim> i get a kernel panic every time i start X unless i manually specify a non-intel driver
[11:50] <ikonia> webvictim: how are you specifying a non-intel driver ?
[11:51] <webvictim> Driver "vesa"
[11:51] <ikonia> webvictim: which other drivers have you tried ?
[11:51] <webvictim> just that and "intel"
[11:51] <ikonia> webvictim: try i180
[11:51] <ikonia> oops
[11:51] <erUSUL> i810*
[11:51] <ikonia> try i810
[11:51] <webvictim> ok
[11:52] <skramer_> erUSUL: seems it is mostly about mice & I can't seem to find anything about tablets :-(
[11:52] <MDKDIO> abhinav_singh, did you find the info you needed on that site?
[11:52] <abhinav_singh> yes MDKDIO
[11:52] <MDKDIO> :)
[11:53] <webvictim> module i810 apparently doesn't exist
[11:53] <webvictim> guess i need to get hold of it from somewhere
[11:54] <st__> do i need /boot/vmliunz and /boot/initrd.img in Ubuintu?
[11:54] <thune3> st__: they are just links, and they ARE handy if you need to boot from grub> by hand
[11:55] <erUSUL> skramer_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom <<< maybe something there ?
[11:55] <Cojage> 10.10 next week sunday right?
[11:55] <st__> they are invalid, can they be restored automatiaccly? links in / are fine though
[11:55] <MDKDIO>  Messed up, sorry...   I am using 10.04 atm ... and after qbittorrent got updated to 2.4.2 I am having some issues rel to libtorrent.. Question, libtorrent is not updated for 10.04 (0.14.12), but it is for 10.10 (0.15.3). Can I use the 10.10 package instead?
[11:55] <thune3> st__: oh sorry i didn't see the /boot, i was thinking the / ones are handy
[11:56] <Rods_Tiger> How do I avoid ubuntu asking for my password to unlock a "keyring" each time it boots?
[11:57] <skramer_> erUSUL: I already read this, but let me double check to make sure I did not miss anything
[11:57] <thune3> st__: if the dates are old on those things i would just remove them (i would probably remove them anyway), i'm on 9.10 and i don't have such links in boot. i would say ok to remove.
[11:58] <erUSUL> skramer_: maybe adding « Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0" » to the serial related section there would be enough?
[11:58] <webvictim> ikonia: X says it can't find module i810
[11:58] <skramer_> erUSUL: I havee no idea... :-(
[11:59] <erUSUL> skramer_: so « gksudo gedit /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-wacom.conf » and add  « Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0" » just after «  MatchProduct "Serial Wacom Tablet" »
[12:06] <Voting> I'm about to use rsync to copy a bunch of files over my new nfs connection from one local machine to another TO COPY MANY VERY LARGE FILES. Is there any trick to using rsync efficently over NFS? About to do: rsync -azvvr /localDirectory /remoteDirectory
[12:06] <Voting> is three something smarter I shoudl do?
[12:06] <Voting> should I turn off compression for local use, for example?
[12:06] <erUSUL> i can not think of anything ... maybe in #rsync
[12:07] <Voting> ah, of course they have their own room!
[12:07] <erUSUL> Voting: use simply cp ?
[12:07] <dsterz> Voting: Check out -S, --sparse" - handle sparse files efficiently
[12:07] <pyghassen> i lose the wifi password for everytime I reboot!!!!!!!!
[12:07] <dsterz> Voting: very good for VM Disks or ISO Files
[12:08] <dewey_> he guys is there a way to start a program on a remote machine via ssh
[12:08] <Voting> erUSUL: thanks! I'm not sure I know what a sparse file is.
[12:08] <dewey_> (ssh -X works, but it opens on my own computers, needs to be on the remote)
[12:08] <skramer_> erUSUL: I  get a black screen & left unable to login :-(
[12:08] <dsterz> dewey: ssh root@$host "/path/to/command"
[12:09] <skramer_> erUSUL: so I'll have to remove that setting again
[12:09] <dewey_> disterz: (google-chrome:5753): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[12:09] <magnetron> dewey_: you are talking about a GRAPHICAL program, right?
[12:09] <dewey_> yes
[12:09] <dsterz> Voting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparse_file
[12:09] <dewey_> but it needs to open on the remote server, not my local machine
[12:09] <Linuxguy> hey i want to format everything and install ubuntu, and i plan to run windows software that ubuntu cant run, (like games) throguh a virtual box, so was wondering is this a good idea? also how much ram should i allocate for the virtual box? i have 4gb ddr3 ram so should i allocate 2gb?
[12:10] <areay_> Linuxguy, dual-boot windows and linux. you'll never get games to perform as well on ubuntu as they do on windows
[12:10] <tensorpudding> Linuxguy: This is not going to work.
[12:10] <icarus-c> Linuxguy, 3D performance is close to useless on virtual machine
[12:10] <areay_> lol
[12:10] <dewey_> I figured I could change the DISPLAY option on my local machine, but that doesn't seem to work
[12:10] <Linuxguy> oh ok thanks guys
[12:10] <icarus-c> Linuxguy, whether is there 3D capability is a problem
[12:10] <icarus-c> not to mention performance.
[12:11] <magnetron> dewey_: you need to set the DISPLAY in the remote environment.
[12:11] <trojan_spike> Linuxguy, games arent great in v-ox.. i leave a partition for windows,, then a differ partition for software and games..
[12:11] <icarus-c> areay_, CS and war3 are perfect in my experience though :P
[12:11] <icarus-c> areay_, i mean with Wine
[12:11] <dewey_> ah , to localhost:0 ?
[12:11] <magentar> Linuxguy: some games run more or less with wine, results may vary
[12:11] <areay_> icarus-c, i'll have to try that; i used to love CS
[12:11] <magnetron> dewey_: create a small script on the remote that first sets DISPLAY, then launches the app. then invoke it by starting that script via SSH
[12:12] <Linuxguy> alright guys, i will just do a partition, so should i split my HDD 50% windows /50% ubuntu?
[12:12] <tensorpudding> the finer points of partitioning are hard
[12:12] <pozic> Linuxguy: I did it 95% ubuntu.
[12:12] <icarus-c> dewey_, like    "DISPLAY=:1  firefox"   , assuming X on  :1 running and you have access to
[12:12] <pozic> Linuxguy: but you are not me.
[12:12] <magnetron> Linuxguy: ubuntu can read all windows file systems so you might take that into account
[12:12] <tensorpudding> do you have media files you want to share between them?
[12:13] <Linuxguy> i see thanks guys
[12:13] <nothingspecial> dewey_: From within the ssh session export DISPLAY=:0.0
[12:13] <icarus-c> Linuxguy, 15GB for Linux system is VERY sufficient.
[12:13] <tensorpudding> if so, you might consider making a small windows partition just big enough for games and software, a small ubuntu partition, and a media partition
[12:13] <Linuxguy> :)
[12:13] <tensorpudding> the media partition would need to be NTFS
[12:13] <dewey_> thanks all, "DISPLAY=:0 google-chrome" works perfect
[12:14] <Linuxguy> ok i am gonna go do it now! thanks everyone :)
[12:14] <dewey_> one last question, is there a quick way to kill al the google-chrome processes?
[12:14] <icarus-c> Linuxguy, typically it use less than 10GB.  mine  6GB including some games
[12:14] <Voting> dsterz: wow, I never knew that OSs did smart things about sparse files. Would video files likely be sparse? Can I do some sort of "ls -something" to see which ones are sparse? Thanks!!
[12:14] <tensorpudding> dewey_: killall chrome
[12:14] <icarus-c> hope Linuxguy manage to leave a partition to share data between Windows & ubuntu :P
[12:15] <tensorpudding> 10 GB is small for Ubuntu.
[12:15] <skramer_> I still  need some  help how to make a WACOM ArtPad 2 work under Lucid
[12:15] <dsterz> Voting: no, its useful for ISO Files or Virtual Machine Disk Images
[12:15] <magnetron> icarus-c: just a small tip: with virtualbox and other virtualbox it's actually possible to accelerate 3D graphics
[12:16] <icarus-c> magnetron, yea. but try to run crysis
[12:16] <icarus-c> not even CS i suppose
[12:16] <magnetron> icarus-c: um
[12:16] <AbhiJit> hi
[12:16] <Martin|2> tensorpudding, 10GB works fine for me :D
[12:16] <AbhiJit> in gwibber i how to go to last msg recieved @<myname> ??
[12:17] <magnetron> icarus-c: if you install guest addons it can be basically as fast as native
[12:17] <magnetron> icarus-c: counterstrike will run with great FPS
[12:17] <icarus-c> magnetron, well as least last time i try i couldn't run CS
[12:17] <magnetron> icarus-c: did you install guest addons?
[12:17] <icarus-c> sure
[12:17] <magnetron> including the DX plugin?
[12:17] <icarus-c> that was long time ago though
[12:18] <trojan_spike> CS?
[12:18] <magnetron> trojan_spike: counterstrike
[12:18] <icarus-c> not Computer Science nor Customer Service :P
[12:18] <Rods_Tiger> what causes the wifi to keep continually asking for the password and never actually get connected? The password is correct.
[12:18] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, poor signal
[12:18] <Rods_Tiger> no, it's not
[12:18] <magnetron> Rods_Tiger: for some reason the password is not correct
[12:19] <dewey_> this is brilliant haha, thanks all for hulp
[12:19] <Rods_Tiger> yes it is, listen
[12:19] <trojan_spike> the games wont play on v-box.. ive tried with the add-on,, direct-x etc.. no joy,, best off with cedega or play on linux
[12:19] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, or some dhcp issue like me
[12:19] <magnetron> Rods_Tiger: this is a WEP key, right?
[12:19] <Rods_Tiger> the password is correct, the wifi box is just here next to it
[12:19] <rocket16> Can Evolution can be configured in a way, that whenever I delete any mail in evolution, it gets deleted from my gmail inbox as well?
[12:19] <Salminen> games <> linux
[12:19] <Rods_Tiger> WPA
[12:19] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, i fail to get IP from dhcp from my wireless router unless i got 90% signal (i normal get 60%)
[12:19] <Rods_Tiger> it's something wrong in linux
[12:19] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, so i manually set IP
[12:19] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, i bet your router runs Linux too
[12:20] <Rods_Tiger> that's not the issue
[12:20] <icarus-c> or some BSD :P
[12:20] <_fre-d_> Rods_Tiger: had the same prob, for me it worked to reset the wifi-card
[12:20] <Rods_Tiger> then it's something wrong in ubuntu
[12:20] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, maybe take a look at /var/log/daemon.log
[12:20] <icarus-c> um do ubuntu go that?
[12:20] <icarus-c> got
[12:20] <Rods_Tiger> I wish I never suggested to dual boot this person's laptop
[12:20] <Rods_Tiger> they'll never understand all this nonsense
[12:21] <Martin|2> D: so why do they want it?
[12:21] <trojan_spike> dual-boot is easy to understand?
[12:21]  * icarus-c 's bad router is from D-Link
[12:21] <Rods_Tiger> no, it confuses them - the grub loading screen frightens them
[12:22] <trojan_spike> give them burg then?
[12:22] <icarus-c> put a background image for grub
[12:22] <tensorpudding> are they also frightned by BIOS POST screens?
[12:22] <Martin|2> wha... it's not that confusing... Ubuntu 10.04.... WINDOWS < take a pic
[12:22] <Rods_Tiger> they don't remember which Windows Recovery Environment (loader) is the correct one
[12:22] <icarus-c> colorize the text :P
[12:22] <Salminen> make the grub menu nice and tidy, just put like "WINDOWS STARTS HERE" "LINUX STARTS HERE" as the only options :)
[12:22] <Rods_Tiger> and it went into memory test by default anyway
[12:22] <Salminen> you can do that right?
[12:22] <Random832> Rods_Tiger: well that's just a bad setup - why are there two windows recovery environment items?
[12:22] <Rods_Tiger> the endless technical ubuntu kernel options frighten them
[12:22] <tensorpudding> Salminen: GRUB 2 makes that a bit messy
[12:22] <trojan_spike> change the default then,, > start up options>
[12:23] <Rods_Tiger> one of them is their windows
[12:23] <AbhiJit> is there any non-addon browser independent bookmark.username,pasword keeping system? not adon but a softwrae
[12:23] <Salminen> tensorpudding, oh?
[12:23]  * icarus-c votes for bad setup
[12:23] <icarus-c> i mean blame
[12:23] <Rods_Tiger> I changed the default, but after an update, it started booting into memory test, and they now consider it a broken machine
[12:23] <tensorpudding> every time you install a kernel, that'll probably break when it calls grub-update
[12:23] <Salminen> who are these people(sry just curious)
[12:23] <icarus-c> AbhiJit, rsycn the web browser profile folder maybe?...
[12:24] <Rods_Tiger> I'm trying to persuade them to use linux, but they're winning so far!
[12:24] <trojan_spike> u can delete the men-test option
[12:24] <Salminen> tensorpudding, ah right didnt think about that
[12:24] <Rods_Tiger> they can't do that
[12:24] <industrial> I am no longer using GNOME with ubuntu and neither GDM, which is nice and how I want it. But now I have no sound. Alsamixer will not start for my user and now I have no idea how to manage the sound.
[12:24] <Lollipop56> anyone who has some experience with OpenDNS? Pm me
[12:24] <industrial> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[12:24] <AbhiJit> icarus-c, i expect it to do restoring or importing exporing automaticallly
[12:24] <DjAngo23> Hello again. I made a mount of my NFS share on my local computer. But when i create a file localy and fire "ls -alh" on my server, the user of the files is 1000 and the group is 1000. Any idea how to solve this ?
[12:24] <Martin|2> Rods_Tiger, if you want them to ubuntu, just make the default boot into ubuntu, and make the grub timeout 1 second xD
[12:25] <Random832> tensorpudding: isn't there a file you can edit to change what grub-update puts in?
[12:25] <jrib> !pm | Lollipop56
[12:25] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, you could make grub "good looking" and tidy somehow and you didn't.  you can make the boot entries title in grub easy to understand, and you didn't
[12:25] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: Did you hear when myself and someone else on here were talking about UID's and NFS earlier?
[12:25] <Random832> /etc/grub.default or some such
[12:25] <Rods_Tiger> no, it is a default install
[12:25] <DjAngo23> tensorpudding, well i was actualy me ;)
[12:25] <Rods_Tiger> I expect it to be tidy and good looking, and somehow it isn't
[12:25] <tensorpudding> Random832: It's possible, I wouldn't know at all. I profess blissful ignorance with GRUB 2's workings
[12:25] <Random832> so UN-default it
[12:26] <Rods_Tiger> I expect the boot entries to be easy to understand, and it isn't
[12:26] <bazhang> Rods_Tiger, so configure it.
[12:26] <Rods_Tiger> no, they can't
[12:26] <Rods_Tiger> they are not experts
[12:26] <DjAngo23> tensorpudding, it' s just now that i found there wasn' t any other possibility than use NFS
[12:26] <Rods_Tiger> they are just normal users
[12:26] <bazhang> Rods_Tiger, would you like support doing so
[12:26] <linux_hacks> I have a bluetooth adaptor in my Dell Inspiron lappy
[12:26] <Rods_Tiger> no
[12:26] <Random832> i don't know how memtest86 could possibly have become the default entry though; that sounds like a bug
[12:26] <linux_hacks> when I do lsusb it's displaying me the
[12:26] <bazhang> Rods_Tiger, then not much point in complaining about it
[12:26] <jrib> Rods_Tiger: what's your actual question?
[12:26] <glebihan> Salminen: you can edit the files in /etc/grub.d to modify the way grub-update generates the grub.cfg file, but it's at your own risk...
[12:26] <Random832> Rods_Tiger: so basiclly you want a public venue to gripe about it?
[12:26] <Rods_Tiger> they're probably going to reinstall their stupid windows OS instead to 'fix' the broken situation
[12:26] <tensorpudding> DjAngo23: UIDs are mapped from machine to machine, so you need users with the same UID on the client machine
[12:26] <thanasisk> hi all. what is the state of support for ATI Radeon cards
[12:26] <Rods_Tiger> listen you idiots, grub is wrong for normal people
[12:27] <bazhang> Rods_Tiger, please ask a support question
[12:27] <Rods_Tiger> why?
[12:27] <jrib> Rods_Tiger: this channel is for support not complaining
[12:27] <thanasisk> so far I have been using  nvidia products, which had excellent support
[12:27] <Rods_Tiger> oh fuck off
[12:27] <Random832> Rods_Tiger: i've never had a problem. if there's a bug in it then report the bug
[12:27] <icarus-c> Rods_Tiger, right. tell them to use NTLDR instead of grub
[12:27] <linux_hacks> I have a bluetooth adaptor in my Dell Inspiron lappy, when I do lsusb it's displaying me the adaptor, but I couldn't use it to pair up the devices?
[12:27] <Random832> and whatever caused memtest to be the default is a bug
[12:27] <tensorpudding> !language | Rods_Tiger
[12:27] <Martin|2> Rods_Tiger, Grub is right for normal people. its perfectly readable and easy to understand. <OS><Version> then Windows at the bottom, where it should be xD
[12:27] <bazhang> Martin|2, he's gone
[12:27] <thanasisk> but however I am getting a deal on ATI and I want to make sure that it will play nice with ubuntu
[12:28] <Martin|2> lol bazhang xD I never noticed, nvm!
[12:28] <icarus-c> thanasisk, is it a new model?
[12:28] <icarus-c> new hardware generally no good for Linux
[12:28] <Random832> Martin|2: except he somehow ended up with memtest86 at the start, and isn't bothering to give enough information for people to figure out why
[12:28] <chenlong> thanasisk:It's good.
[12:28] <thanasisk> its a 5830
[12:29] <Martin|2> Random832, He originally had Windows as the default boot. when ubuntu was updated, the entries moved down 2. which would start memtest. that happened to me. it was pretty simple to fix too!
[12:29] <thanasisk> full disclosure: in the not-so-distant past, I was not happy with ATI's linux support
[12:29] <Random832> why would the entries "moving down 2" cause memtest to start?
[12:29] <areay_> ok i have a question of my own now... i borrowed a client machine from work, and i'm using it at home... i've never had an ubuntu machine that is this low-spec before, so i'm not sure if this is normal behavior; but every time the machine runs out of memory, EVERYTHING locks up -- i can't even use the numlock key
[12:30] <linux_hacks> I have a bluetooth adaptor in my Dell Inspiron lappy, when I do lsusb it's displaying me the adaptor, but I couldn't use it to pair up the devices?
[12:30] <icarus-c> thanasisk, apparently there is no 3D support for 5830  by xorg  radeon driver yet.
[12:30] <Random832> Martin|2: that sounds fundamentally broken
[12:31] <Random832> and it's only a simple fix if you know where to look
[12:31] <Martin|2> Random832, he has used Startup-manager i'll bet
[12:31] <Martin|2> which is pretty easy to use
[12:32] <Random832> if there's no way to make a windows default _stick_, then there should be no gui to offer the option to make it the default.
[12:32] <icarus-c> thanasisk, and i have no idea how fglrx (ATI's close source driver for linux) works thesedays. but i always have a impression that fglrx sucks
[12:32] <Random832> and it's broken anyway if there's no way to make it stick
[12:32] <happydude> i have a single usb stick and I want to boot many computers with it. How can I remove it after booting?
[12:32] <thanasisk> icarus-c, i see your point
[12:32] <thanasisk> guess I'll speak with my wallet and buy nvidia again
[12:33] <happydude> In other words I want an option to move the system to ramdisk and so I can remove the system disk.
[12:33] <icarus-c> ATI card is very neat thesedays though :(
[12:33] <Random832> the gui writing checks the underlying system can't cash is a serious problem
[12:33] <Martin|2> Yeah, Random832, I think it should look for a keyword. rather than a certain number of lines down from the top.
[12:34] <Martin|2> ugh I know what I mean.
[12:34] <Random832> the other problem is it's a bug no-one "owns"
[12:35] <Gangrel> !splash
[12:35] <Random832> it's not startup-manager's fault because startup-manager exists in a world where grub configurations are static
[12:35] <thanasisk> icarus-c, back in the day, I even mailed matrox that I returned one of their cards due to lack of linux support (no reply ofcourse :))
[12:35] <Random832> it's not an update-grub problem because update-grub exists in a world where if you want a different default you move it to the top
[12:35] <Martin|2> Random832, does anyone own bugs in linux? xD and yeah, startup-manager is good though.
[12:36] <Random832> it's not a grub problem because grub just does what the config tells it to
[12:36] <happydude> is there a tool/app/script to move migrate system root to ram in order to umount the original root partition?
[12:36] <Martin|2> Yar, I get that. Random832 :D
[12:36] <Random832> it's not clear which [of grub or update-grub] you'd add this "keyword" fnctionality to
[12:37] <Salminen> how do i add a user on my openssh server?
[12:38] <jrib> Salminen: System -> Administration -> Users and Groups or use the « adduser » command
[12:38] <icarus-c> happydude, i don't think you could change rootfs to somewhere else after kernel booted.  but you could migrate /usr /opt (where the programs relies in) to ram
[12:38] <Ascavasaion> I have a wired ADSL router, and a small network.  Is there a way that I can bridge the wired and wireless NICs in my laptop and use it as a router to the wired router?
[12:39] <icarus-c> happydude, but there is problem in syncing  files in ram & disk
[12:39] <happydude> icarus-c, you mabe right.
[12:40] <icarus-c> happydude, so you may want to make it read-only and perform system update every few weeks
[12:40] <happydude> icarus-c, I do not want sync. After the root disk is physically removed, no modifications will be permanent over reboot.
[12:40] <happydude> icarus-c, how to make it read only?
[12:40] <icarus-c> happydude, squashfs maybe useful too
[12:41] <happydude> I have only one partition on the usb. can I make the device read only in one swoop?
[12:41] <Lollipop56> !ot
[12:41] <happydude> ... on my ubuntu usb stick? :-)
[12:41] <happydude> s/ubuntu/UBUNTU
[12:43] <icarus-c> happydude, it could be difficult and may not work that well actually (since it takes time to copy files to ram too!)
[12:44] <icarus-c> and Linux cache files that it has accessed anyway
[12:44] <st__> what is the lightest gui web browser availab;e in ubuntu, working of course
[12:44] <happydude> i'll try
[12:44] <icarus-c> st__, midori ?
[12:44] <jrib> st__: links2 -g   probably
[12:45] <st__> midori has a bloated kernel
[12:45] <bazhang> !ot > st__
[12:45] <tensorpudding> st__: uzbl, probably.
[12:46] <st__> bazhang, eh?
[12:46] <bazhang> st__, polling?
[12:46] <tensorpudding> if by lightest you refer to the GUI and resource usage, it does use Webkit which is not really small
[12:46] <bazhang> st__, try bestbot in #ubuntu-bots
[12:46] <LjL> bazhang: err... he's not polling
[12:47] <LjL> he asked about the lightest. that's objectively answerable.
[12:47] <LjL> for some criterion of lightness at least
[12:47] <bazhang> lightest yet bloated
[12:47] <LjL> st__: have you tried dillo?
[12:47] <Seeker`> The one with the fewest 1 bits in the binary. 1's weigh more on the HDD than 0;s.
[12:47] <st__> not yet
[12:47] <bazhang> Seeker`, :)
[12:47] <mc68cm72> hello
[12:48] <mc68cm72> I need help
[12:48] <bazhang> mc68cm72, ask a question
[12:48] <Seeker`> mc68cm72: if you tell us what you need help with, someone might be able to
[12:48] <Seeker`> sadly, we aren't psychic.
[12:48] <mc68cm72> I have to import in mysql a file more than 50mb
[12:48] <mc68cm72> I change mx file size to 50mb
[12:49] <LjL> mc68cm72: #mysql might be a better venue for that sort of issue
[12:49] <Emanon> !congratulations
[12:49] <mc68cm72> upload_max_filesize, memory_limit and post_max_size to 50mb but I still can't import the db
[12:49] <soby> laptop realtek driver fails everytime during boot up .... this is the kernel log .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/499278/ ...any idea how to fix it??
[12:49] <mc68cm72> ok, thanks, I'll try there
[12:50] <Diablos> http://vivaolinux.com.br/screenshots/viewshot.php?codigo=18461&shot=Winbuntu.png  :)
[12:50] <bazhang> Diablos, not here
[12:50] <Diablos> ok
[12:50] <mc68cm72> nice : ERROR > 404: Cannot send to channel: #mysql
[12:50] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:50] <mc68cm72> I can't write there..
[12:50] <bazhang> mc68cm72, then register
[12:50] <LjL> mc68cm72: uh let me try to find out why
[12:50] <mc68cm72> ok
[12:51] <LjL> mc68cm72: oh right, what bazhang said. i forget that +R is no more.
[12:52] <Bullterd> Evening All.
[12:52] <Emanon> !hello | Bullterd
[12:52] <Bullterd> I have a tar backup file - how do I extract one specific folder from within?
[12:52] <mc68cm72> +Ccnt
[12:52] <nickio_> just installed ubuntu8 am on the initial login screen with a resolution so small i can only see the top left corner. Is it possible to open a terminal from the login page and adjust the screen resolution? Or any other suggestions?
[12:52] <Emanon> nickio_: hit enter type password hit enter again
[12:52] <iceroot> nickio_: ctrl + alt + f1
[12:52] <Emanon> or do that
[12:52] <Ascavasaion> I have a wired ADSL router, and a small network.  Is there a way that I can bridge the wired and wireless NICs in my laptop and use it as a router to the wired router?
[12:53] <ivanatwork> hi
[12:53] <Emanon> !hi | ivanatwork
[12:53] <Seeker`> Emanon: please stop that.
[12:53] <qoqo_66> i use chekgmail (ubuntu 10.04). it wants a command to execute on new e-mail. but it is empty now. can some please give me a command to bip once time ?
[12:53] <Emanon> what?
[12:53] <Seeker`> Emanon: doing !hi for everyone that comes in
[12:53] <Emanon> they said hi
[12:53] <nickio_> perfect, thanks iceroot and Emanon
[12:54] <Emanon> np nickio_
[12:54] <ivanatwork> lol ;)
[12:54] <Seeker`> Emanon: I know. Doesn't mean you need to do the factoid back each time.
[12:54] <Emanon> would it make you feel better if i carroted it to them rather than piping?
[12:54] <LjL> Emanon: why don't you just reply to the greeting? bot isn't needed for *everything*
[12:54] <ikonia> Emanon: just give it a rest
[12:55] <LjL> (though i do wonder why the factoid is there in the first place)
[12:55] <tassleho1f> anyone have xdmcp working in lucid?
[12:56] <karthee>  Hi .. Has anyone come across the problem, In ldap           Objectclass : glue,  Objectclass : top got set somehow ..
[12:56] <qoqo_66> i use chekgmail (ubuntu 10.04). it wants a command to execute on new e-mail. but it is empty now. can some please give me a command to bip once time ?
[12:57] <daOwner> hi
[12:57] <Emanon> i know this doesnt help but have you tried using gmail through evolution qoqo_66?
[12:57] <ivanatwork> samba ask me for user / password. How can I setup samba to leave that folder "public" ?
[12:57] <Emanon> hello daOwner
[12:57]  * Emanon looks pointedly at Seeker`
[12:57] <qoqo_66> Emanon:  i dont use evolution ro something else... thye everytime has probelms when i send extra files with mail...
[12:58] <qoqo_66> Emanon: but thank you!
[12:58] <Emanon> ahh fair enough then
[12:58] <ivanatwork> !samba
[12:59] <daOwner> hmm
[12:59] <daOwner> how are you ubuntu people?
[12:59] <ivanatwork> I need to set up samba to have a "public" folder without user/password request
[12:59] <icarus-c> Bullterd, tar -xvf blah.tar   path/to/folder/file
[12:59] <bazhang> daOwner, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[13:00] <icarus-c> Bullterd, tar -lxvf blah.tar  to list
[13:00] <trond-> ivanatwork, Let me see if I can find a link that I use when it comes to Samba issues (if no one else comes along and help you out)
[13:01] <ivanatwork> trond-: thank you. I only need to make a folder public but I don't know exactly what to do
[13:01] <ivanatwork> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04
[13:02] <ivanatwork> well ... 10.10 beta but it's the same thing lol
[13:02] <bazhang> ivanatwork, no its not
[13:02] <bazhang> ivanatwork, #ubuntu+1 for that
[13:02] <trond-> ivanatwork, I believe you can use this: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20051006095436254
[13:02] <chenlong> yes
[13:03] <trond-> bazhang, don't think Samba has changed that much - haven't really for the last few years I've been dealing with Samba.
[13:03] <bazhang> trond-, thats the support for maverick nonetheless, thanks
[13:03] <chenlong> Is mysql worth study--after buy by orcle?
[13:04] <Kartagis> is it easy to create a samba domain?
[13:04] <trond-> bazhang, true ;)
[13:04] <fabjan> Seems my usb-creator issue is a bug so I guess I won't be able to solve it today.. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/file-roller/+bug/64383
[13:04] <soby> laptop realtek driver fails everytime during boot up .... this is the kernel log .... http://paste.ubuntu.com/499278/ ...any idea how to fix it??
[13:04] <trond-> chenlong, yes.
[13:04] <bazhang> fabjan, what about trying unetbootin
[13:04] <ivanatwork> trond- and bazhang, thanks! I'm leaving to the right channel.
[13:04] <AbhiJit> chenlong, try postgres
[13:05] <fidelix> Anyone had problems when updating to 2.6.32-25 ?
[13:05] <chenlong> Study mysql in windows  is good?
[13:05] <icarus-c> chenlong, offtopic
[13:05] <phaedra> chenlong, you can also have a look at MariaDB
[13:05] <rusivi> fidelix no, what have you noticed?
[13:06] <alkamid> what packages do I need for full kanji support?
[13:06] <fidelix> rusivi, my Xserver works no nore.
[13:06] <tensorpudding> alkamid: japanese fonts
[13:06] <fidelix> rusivi, reverting to 32-24 it worked fine again.
[13:06] <trond-> chenlong, check your msg window.
[13:07] <alkamid> tensorpudding, I have language-support-fonts-ja
[13:07] <tensorpudding> alkamid: I'm pretty sure everything supports UTF-8 now by default
[13:07] <trond-> fidelix, what kind of issues did _you_ have on 32-25? Flickering window?
[13:07] <fidelix> trond-, X does not open.
[13:07] <rusivi> fidelix is there a functionality from kernel <IP_ADDRESS> you need?
[13:07] <icarus-c> 2.6.32-25 is NOT <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:08] <chenlong> what about MS sqlserver?
[13:08] <rusivi> icarus-c yes mistyped
[13:08] <rusivi> icarus-c (wish this was skype...)
[13:08] <icarus-c> as a matter of fact, <IP_ADDRESS> doesn't even exist
[13:08] <fidelix> rusivi, i've read some things about wireless upgrades. In the past few months i had some problems with wireless...
[13:08] <tensorpudding> alkamid: language-pack-ja would include all the Japanese language stuff for Ubuntu, if that is what you want
[13:08] <babtux> hi
[13:08] <tensorpudding> err, for the documentation and the like
[13:09] <Ranjan> hello Every body .. today i noticed an very strange problem  with rhythmbox it is not working properly wile cross feeding is active in ubuntu 10.04 does any body have noticed this issue ... or any way to fix it ... any help would be of great help ..  Thanks in advance
[13:09] <alkamid> tensorpudding, I just need to read japanese
[13:09] <azlon> how can i check the status of resize2fs?
[13:09] <rusivi> fidelix: what have you read about wireless upgrades? What type of wireless problems have you had?
[13:09] <tensorpudding> alkamid: All you need for that is Japanese fonts and support for UTF-8
[13:10] <Ranjan> alkamid : please gave an try on shared talk