[07:41] <refuze2looze> you don't know how i can get aclocal ?
[07:41] <bob2> jpfarias: that's really screwed
[07:42] <jpfarias> bob2: downloading with wget I reach only 5-10 Kbps
[07:42] <bob2> refuze2looze: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:42] <debugger> bob2, you known what uses the file /etc/modprobe.d/aliases ?
[07:42] <jpfarias> bob2: downloading with axel and n = 10 I can reach 100-150 Kbps
[07:42] <bob2> debugger: nothing, afaik
[07:43] <bob2> jpfarias: fixing your network is a lot less effort than making apt even more complicated
[07:43] <debugger> bob2, humm, so how does ubuntu load the ipv6 module?
[07:43] <jpfarias> bob2: I know it's weird, but I'm not the network admin
[07:43] <debugger> bob2, I mean, when the system starts, it loads a bunch of modules, but how? and why?
[07:43] <bob2> jpfarias: then use rsync or something to make a local mirror
[07:43] <bob2> jpfarias: apt can't do what you're asking, sorry
[07:43] <bob2> debugger: lots of ways
[07:43] <anubisds> anyone know about ivtv?
[07:44] <bob2> debugger: /etc/modules, hotplug probes hardware and loads stuff for it...
[07:44] <mwh_> hi, i'm using ubuntu hoary, and I noticed some wird err... I have a usb flash card reader .. and when I connect it, it does not get mounted automatically .. I have to issue the mount cmd myself .. what can be wrong?
[07:44] <mwh_> also, I had it pluged in while booting up my system
[07:44] <jpfarias> bob2: how many space a local mirror would take?
[07:44] <bob2> mwh_: unplug it, reboot, plug it in.  do you see the same issue?
[07:45] <mwh_> I dont know
[07:45] <teeagoo> someone had a scanner hp 3600 driver?
[07:45] <allergique> Rumbo_:what I must do with proxy please?
[07:45] <bob2> mwh_: so go try it
[07:45] <refuze2looze> bob2: obviously i've tried that already
[07:45] <bob2> refuze2looze: ...
[07:45] <mwh_> bob2: okay, ill do that, but if the problem is solved then what?
[07:45] <bob2> mwh_: then this is how usb works
[07:45] <bob2> I'd assume
[07:45] <anubisds> schwing
[07:45] <mwh_> bob2: really ...
[07:45] <bob2> you can file a bug if you think it's a big issue
[07:46] <bob2> refuze2looze: and you can run it manually?
[07:46] <mwh_> I think its a bad thing because people will find Ubuntu broken if their usb stuff does not work
[07:46] <bob2> jpfarias: 5.4GB for warty + hoary + breezy, i386, main + restricted
[07:46] <bob2> mwh_: usb stuff works fine
[07:46] <mwh_> Ubuntu linux is so great, you have to reboot to get it working ;)
[07:46] <jpfarias> bob2: thanks
[07:46] <bob2> mwh_: does windows mount usb sticks that are inserted during boot?
[07:46] <bob2> mwh_: er, no, you just have to plug it in
[07:47] <WhiteRabbit> unmount & mount are wonderful cmds
[07:47] <mwh_> bob2: I pluged it in
[07:47] <anubisds> it sounds more like an automount setting
[07:47] <mwh_> and pulled it out
[07:47] <bob2> anubisds: ubuntu doesn't use automount
[07:47] <anubisds> doot da doo let me go back to my corner
[07:47] <mwh_> I have gnome configured to automount the device and show its files in a window
[07:47] <refuze2looze> bob2: run what manually? ccd2iso?
[07:47] <bob2> refuze2looze: aclocal-1.6
[07:48] <hondje> man aclocal-1.6
[07:48] <mwh_> I can tell that the kernel finds the device when its plugin from dmesg
[07:48] <mwh_> so it must be higher in the software stack that something goes wrong
[07:48] <debugger> bob2, I see. thx.
[07:48] <mwh_> maybe its a service which needs to be restarted or something
[07:49] <Amaranth> someone say my name?
[07:49] <Amaranth> i've got like a 3000 line scrollback but it's only 3 hours in this channel
[07:49] <refuze2looze> bob2: well i just got make to work but it compiled with errors.. so nevermind i guess =/
[07:51] <misfit_toy> has anyone had any success with ndiswrapper and a linksys wpc54g? I have it installed per instructions, module loades, lights come on, but there is never connectivity? I'm very close to conquering this thing, just not sure what to check next?
[07:52] <refuze2looze> bob2: i'll just install a .deb i found of an older verison (the first one) and hope its good enough
[07:52] <AndyR> misfit_toy, i have had success with linksys wusb54g and ndiswrapper
[07:53] <refuze2looze> okay, this version doesn't work right... oh well
[07:53] <Gh0sty> anyone have dualscreen running with nvidia twinview ????
[07:53] <lotusleaf> is the Synaptic update listed in backports an actual update? it says something about a revert
[07:53] <AndyR> misfit_toy, i had to use the driver from linksys website not the 1 on cd
[07:53] <osiris> has anyone had any troubles getting certain non-free packages with the sources they give you on ubuntuguide? im trying to install w32codecs and flashplayer-mozilla but apt cant find the packages but ive added the ones that ubuntuguide tells you to add? any help would be really appreciated
[07:53] <lotusleaf> "0.56+revertedto+officialhoary+0.55+cvs20050406-1~5.04ubp1"
[07:54] <Gh0sty> osiris: you have universal ?
[07:54] <misfit_toy> AndyR, I followed the ndiswrapper howto at the ubuntu wiki and I've got the lights on now, I got the drivers specifically for the card, but not from linksys, however they do load correctly.
[07:54] <misfit_toy> AndyR, I guess I will try the linksys site then, thanks.
[07:54] <Gh0sty> osiris: oh yes, you run apt-get update first???
[07:55] <AndyR> np
[07:55] <Gh0sty> i got w32codecs and stuff, but mplayer crashes from time to time :(
[07:55] <lsuactiafner> Gh0sty : dont be lazy compile it yourself and you will see it wont crash
[07:55] <bob2> lotusleaf: that would be the backports people reverting one of their backports to the version in hoary
[07:55] <Gh0sty> lsuactiafner: i will
[07:55] <bob2> lotusleaf: since the one they backported originally was screwed
[07:56] <osiris> Gh0sty, i have univers and multivers
[07:56] <lsuactiafner> packages put in as many functions as possible.. chances are you DONT need nas ect
[07:56] <lotusleaf> bob2, lol ok thanks ;)
[07:56] <osiris> but still.
[07:56] <bob2> lotusleaf: really, it's better to avoid them entirely if at all possible
[07:56] <swoop> anybody had experience in getting webmin working ?
[07:56] <Gh0sty> but i need to get dualscreen running!!!! :(
[07:56] <lotusleaf> bob2, thx ;-) Appreciate the answer
[07:56] <Gh0sty> its not fair, i like ubuntu but if i can't get dualscreen running in a week i switch back to debian sid
[07:56] <lotusleaf> bob2, are you saying it's better to avoid using ubuntu backports? But I thought it was made official and pending gpg sigs and such?
[07:57] <bob2> lotusleaf: er
[07:57] <theD3viL> How to set up my KDE to iso-8859-2 fonts? .. or win-1250 ? =/
[07:57] <bob2> lotusleaf: the current backports project has no vetting by anyone aside from the people oding it
[07:57] <blotter> i think a reinstall is in order since i did an upgrade, but here is the situation...everytime i view web pages with firefox OR mozilla, my web browser closes...i cant even view the forums.. when i type in www.ubuntuforums.org, it crashes immediately.
[07:57] <osiris> Can anyone send me a copy of there sources.list?
[07:57] <bob2> theD3viL: #kubuntu might be a better place to ask
[07:57] <bob2> osiris: that's a bad idea
[07:58] <bob2> osiris: "sudo apt-setup" will generate a new one for you
[07:58] <theD3viL> bob2, k
[07:58] <lotusleaf> bob2, ah, I read on the forums that it was going to be official then, right? But it's not currently?
[07:58] <Gh0sty> osiris: do you have both the backports also??
[07:58] <bob2> lotusleaf: perhaps in the future, but not currently
[07:58] <lotusleaf> bob2, any documented examples thus far of serious problems resulting from use of backports?
[07:58] <bob2> lotusleaf: the backports they made for warty prevented people from upgrading to hoary
[07:58] <osiris> Gh0sty, yes
[07:59] <lotusleaf> bob2, ouch
[07:59] <bob2> lotusleaf: they somehow managed to get breezy's libc6 in their staging repository, which made hoary machines unbootable
[07:59] <misfit_toy> AndyR, interesting, linksys has no drivers for the WPC54G on their site that I can see.
[07:59] <lotusleaf> bob2, o_O
[07:59] <lotusleaf> bob2, thx for mentioning this. :)
[07:59] <osiris> Gh0sty, can you try and apt-get install w32codecs and see if it works for you?
[07:59] <bob2> np
[07:59] <Gh0sty> osiris and you did an update after you added the new sources ??
[07:59] <osiris> If it does then i know its just my sources
[07:59] <lotusleaf> bob2, do many people use backports?
[07:59] <osiris> Gh0sty, Of course
[08:00] <bob2> lotusleaf: I don't know
[08:00] <thoreauputic> lotusleaf: too many ;/
[08:00] <lotusleaf> the lack of gpg signing concerns me
[08:00] <bob2> lotusleaf: all we see here are the people who are using them and got screwed over, which is not an unbiased sample
[08:00] <lotusleaf> thoreauputic, how so?
[08:00] <Gh0sty>  apt-cache search w32codecs
[08:00] <Gh0sty> w32codecs - win32 binary codecs
[08:00] <osiris> damn lol
[08:00] <Gh0sty> hm, that should've been 1 line :)
[08:00] <thoreauputic> lotusleaf: what bob2 just said ;)
[08:00] <lotusleaf> bob2, interesting thx
[08:01] <bob2> lotusleaf: I'd assume the majority of people who use them don't have problems
[08:01] <Gh0sty> osiris: i send you the lines in pm?
[08:01] <jind> Does anybodu know of a X program which lets me move a window from one screen to another?
[08:01] <osiris> Gh0sty, Yeah please
[08:01] <bob2> lotusleaf: but unfortunately the sort of people who tend to use them are the sort of people who can't fix problems that might arise
[08:01] <lotusleaf> bob2, that's good to hear
[08:01] <jind> I have setup without xinerama and therefore cannot move between screens
[08:01] <lotusleaf> bob2, it's good to hear about the experiences you've had in here thus far regarding ppl who use them though
[08:01] <ppax> hi, has anybody got mono 1.1.7 and winforms to work on ubuntu
[08:02] <jind> I know it's possible though since I once read a man page with that command. But now I can't remember what the name was
[08:02] <jind> Does anybody know?
[08:02] <bob2> xmove?
[08:02] <bob2> but that's not what it does
[08:02] <jind> brb *man xmove*
[08:03] <thoreauputic> lotusleaf: using , say, one package then commenting the line out afterwards in sources.list might be a reasonable approach - but you need to be aware of the possible issues
[08:03] <lotusleaf> If the backports maintainer(s) can't or won't use gpg signing I would hope at the very least (considering there are mirrors being used now rather than one central source) they consider having an md5/sha1 hashes list as a precaution
[08:03] <misfit_toy> man, this is frustrating, i mean the wireless NIC is configured, the modules load perfectly, lspci lists my NIC, the lights are on, I just get no connectivity, I even have hardcoded the IP in case it was a DHCP issue, still no joy, darnit.
[08:03] <bob2> lotusleaf: the Packages file contains md5sums of the binary .debs
[08:03] <lotusleaf> thoreauputic, very true, thx :)
[08:04] <lotusleaf> bob2, ah! Wasn't aware of this, thx ;)
[08:04] <bob2> lotusleaf: but that only "protects" you from bad downloads
[08:04] <lotusleaf> bob2, any plans on sha1?
[08:04] <lotusleaf> ;-)
[08:05] <chol> misfit_toy, and iwconfig shows your ssid and optional wep/wpa?
[08:05] <lsuactiafner> misfit_toy : what card?
[08:05] <Proteque> hey. where do I change globaly from utf-8 to something more suitable for me?
[08:06] <misfit_toy> chof yes
[08:06] <chol> Proteque, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[08:06] <misfit_toy> lsuactiafner, Linksys WPC54G
[08:06] <bob2> Proteque: why don't you want utf-8?
[08:06] <Amaranth> Proteque: How is UTF-8 not suitable?
[08:06] <chol> misfit_toy, okey.. strange then
[08:06] <Proteque> bob2: because I cant change it only for aterm.
[08:07] <bob2> Proteque: why not just use xterm?
[08:07] <Proteque> bob2: lacks some eyecandy.
[08:07] <misfit_toy> Link quality 100/100 Signal level -10 dbm
[08:07] <chol> misfit_toy, the light should only come on if the card is connected so it all seems fine
[08:08] <misfit_toy> chof I know, it's very strange
[08:08] <chol> misfit_toy, what keyboard layout are you using? 'cause mine has f far from l ;)
[08:09] <thoreauputic> Proteque: you can do eye candy with gnome-terminal (although it doesn't pop up as fast, I admit)
[08:09] <misfit_toy> holy crap!!!!
[08:09] <misfit_toy> it works
[08:09] <misfit_toy> wtf?
[08:09] <chol> misfit_toy, great :)
[08:10] <Proteque> thoreauputic: it pop up terrible slow. isnt very enjoyable when i use terminals for starting apps
[08:10] <Proteque> dont like to wait.
[08:10] <chol> Proteque, do what i told you then you can choose whatever locale that suits you
[08:10] <misfit_toy> chol, hmm, wait, I can ping my router now but not getting internet, let me look at DNS again.
[08:10] <chol> misfit_toy, no default gw
[08:10] <thoreauputic> Proteque: yeah, i use aterm too for that reason
[08:10] <Rockett17> yep no default gateway or no dns resolves
[08:11] <misfit_toy> weird, the only choice for default gateway is wlan0....?!?
[08:11] <Proteque> thoreauputic: you live in a country without strange letters?
[08:11] <sorush20> hi guys...
[08:11] <sorush20> I'm having problems accessing the root user account form Ubuntu,,
[08:11] <Rumbo_> heheeheh
[08:11] <chol> misfit_toy, choice? :) just route add default gw ip.to.router to see if it works
[08:11] <thoreauputic> Proteque: heh - well yes: but man pages are still weird in aterm ;)
[08:11] <sorush20> During the installation
[08:11] <Rumbo_> sorush: there is no root user account
[08:11] <misfit_toy> chol, k
[08:11] <Rumbo_> i found that one out trying too :-)
[08:12] <sorush20> Ubuntu never asked me for a root user name and passowrd
[08:12] <Rumbo_> you have to doe everything with 'sudo'
[08:12] <Rumbo_> sorush: that's normal
[08:12] <Rumbo_> sorush: sudo will ask for a password, you can give the password of your primary user account
[08:12] <chol> misfit_toy, and ping an ip adress if you don't have dns configured
[08:13] <sorush20> Rumbo_: what is sudo
[08:13] <chol> misfit_toy, otoh you probably could just try dhcp again
[08:13] <Rumbo_> sorush: sudo is to execute a command as root
[08:13] <misfit_toy> chol, chol 'route add default gw xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' correct?
[08:13] <Rumbo_> so basically
[08:13] <Rockett17> sudo gives you administrative priveldges without the use of a root account
[08:13] <misfit_toy> yeah, let's try dhcp now!
[08:13] <Rumbo_> sudo commandYouWantToExecuteAsRoot
[08:13] <misfit_toy> duh
[08:13] <thoreauputic> !rootsudo
[08:13] <ubotu> from memory, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[08:13] <chol> misfit_toy, if it doesn't give any error when you type it, it should be, right :)
[08:14] <ompaul> misfit_toy, so in your comment 'sudo dhclient' might be useful
[08:14] <misfit_toy> chol, but it did give an error, so I thought I mistyped it... error: SIOCADDRT:no such device
[08:15] <debugger> can someone point me to the bazar/svn/cvs/whatever of ubuntu?
[08:15] <chol> misfit_toy, k.. that's something else, not regarding the command.. but give your dhclient another try now that we know wlan is working
[08:15] <sorush20> and how do I access it... the only reason is that I am trying to install firefox 1.0.4, instead of 1.0.2 that is already installed with Ubuntu... and when I link the the directory /user/lib/mozilla-firefox/ I get the message that I am not allowed to install in this directory since I don't have administrative privileges.
[08:16] <lsuactiafner> sorush20 : goodluck..
[08:16] <lotusleaf> sorush20, backports has the new firefox
[08:16] <lsuactiafner> i run firefox in a chroot
[08:16] <thoreauputic> sorush20: you don't need 1.0.4 - the ubuntu one is up to date
[08:16] <ompaul> sorush20, what advantage will that give you over 1.0.2 ?
[08:16] <misfit_toy> chol, trying, I don't think this card has ever liked DHCP though...
[08:16] <lsuactiafner> too much effort to get it to work in hoary
[08:16] <Rumbo_> doesn't 1.0.4 have some security updates ?
[08:16] <misfit_toy> chol, it's still trying to DISCOVER, I don't think it ever will though.
[08:17] <sorush20> thoreauputic: will for instance if you have firefox 1.0.2 you can not install extensions...
[08:17] <bob2> Rumbo_: all of which are in the ubuntu 1.0.2 package
[08:17] <thoreauputic> sorush20: if you have issues with themes and extensions, go to about:config and edit the vendorSub string to be 1.0.4
[08:17] <misfit_toy> but I don't get why I can't set my default GW from the dropdown list in network settings, I have the gateway entered in the IP settings but there is another drop down list on the first "general" tab that only lists the NIC itself as a possible GW.
[08:17] <devUbu>  what does: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname() mean?
[08:18] <bob2> devUbu: from what program?
[08:18] <devUbu> i got this error when I logged in for the first time
[08:18] <ppax> hi, has anybody got mono 1.1.7 and winforms to work on ubuntu
[08:18] <lsuactiafner> 1.0.2 has a bug thats exploitable as far as i know..
[08:18] <bob2> devUbu: it means /etc/hosts is broken
[08:18] <devUbu> from terminal when executing sudo su
[08:18] <misfit_toy> yep, "no DHCPOFFERS received...and that's ok, like I said I think this card never worked with DHCP.
[08:18] <lsuactiafner> so yar..
[08:18] <devUbu> ok
[08:18] <bob2> ppax: try asking on the mailing list
[08:18] <lsuactiafner> 1.0.4 or doesnt run firefox
[08:18] <bob2> devUbu: show us the first line of it
[08:18] <sorush20> thoreauputic: the problem is that I don't want to have firefox released form Ubuntu I wanted to have it installed from source from Mozilla.
[08:18] <bob2> lsuactiafner: dude, 1.0.2 on ubuntu has all the fixes from 1.0.4
[08:18] <thoreauputic> lsuactiafner: no, the Ubuntu version has been fixed
[08:18] <devUbu> how do I fix that because I also cant get the updates stuff to work, think this is the reason
[08:18] <thoreauputic> sorush20: why?
[08:18] <lotusleaf> sorush20, so what's stopping you from installing firefox's latest version via Ubuntu backports?
[08:18] <devUbu> one sec
[08:19] <lsuactiafner> why not just install 1.0.4 as a package?
[08:19] <zAo^> how can I support spellchecking (Dutch) in Evolution? Thanks
[08:19] <sorush20> where is backports
[08:19] <chol> misfit_toy, do you have another nic in the machine currently connected to internet?
[08:19] <sorush20> I don't even know..
[08:19] <devUbu> root@ubuntu:/ # cat /etc/hosts
[08:19] <devUbu> <IP_ADDRESS>       localhost
[08:19] <devUbu> ::1             localhost       ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[08:19] <misfit_toy> chol, no
[08:19] <Jet2k5> is anybody here having trouble with internet?
[08:20] <thoreauputic> lsuactiafner: read what bob2  and I just said
[08:20] <misfit_toy> the only nic in that laptop is the wireless one I'm troubleshooting, not even a LAN nic.
[08:20] <bob2> devUbu: open it up in your text editor and chyange the first line to say "<IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu"
[08:20] <Jet2k5> I can't seem to browse any webpages on ubuntuu anymore
[08:20] <bob2> devUbu: also, what does "grep -c breezy /etc/apt/sources.list" say?
[08:20] <chol> misfit_toy, dhcp should work.. strange, route add default gw ip.to.gw should do the trick.. there's nothing more to it..
[08:20] <devUbu> ok, thanks bob
[08:21] <sorush20> devubu: what is that you just typed in was that for me....
[08:21] <chol> misfit_toy, no such device indicates that perhaps the wlan ip is not on the same subnet as the gw
[08:21] <misfit_toy> chol, when I do that I get SIOCADDRT: File exists
[08:21] <misfit_toy> chol... using 192.168.1 subnet for all my boxen here.
[08:21] <chol> misfit_toy, then the default gw is already there, netstat -rn
[08:22] <ompaul> I always thought that the idea of a distro was to provide me with an environment where the the management of the distro allowed me to develop skills I need while allowing me to have the benefit of up to date software and while I might contribute help to the odd bug here and there as my skill level allows me I do not break it buy installing non distro packages introducing a level opf complexity well over and above that which I wish to ma
[08:22] <ompaul> nage myself
[08:22] <misfit_toy> chol, yep it's there
[08:22] <Jet2k5> dhcp sucks with ipv6
[08:22] <ompaul> but that is just me :)
[08:22] <Jet2k5> my router hates it, can't even work properly
[08:22] <misfit_toy> chol, it's got to be some DNS issue, hrm....
[08:22] <chol> misfit_toy, look at dns and see if everything works then
[08:22] <misfit_toy> let me look again for the 15th time, lol.
[08:22] <sorush20> how do you guys run samba from ubuntu
[08:23] <chol> misfit_toy, hehe.. i know the feeling.. I believe that its better to learn how to troubleshoot than to get the answer served tho
[08:23] <bob2> sorush20: install it.  enjoy!
[08:23] <misfit_toy> chol, I agree, and I wouldn't have even asked here if I hadn't googled for two days and already ripped out my hair, but thanks for the info.
[08:23] <justin> ompaul: do you know the meaning of a "run-on sentence" ?
[08:24] <chol> misfit_toy, np, hope it was of some help
[08:25] <misfit_toy> chol, well, of course it was helpful, the thing is, this is BASIC networking, 'ping router works, internet doesn't, DNS, hmmmm, but DNS is *fine*'
[08:25] <misfit_toy> oh well, let's keep looking thanks again.
[08:25] <justin> ompaul: valid point though :-)
[08:25] <justin> misfit_toy: what kind of router?
[08:25] <chol> misfit_toy, seems strange.. but i've had problems with wlan drivers and different kernel version
[08:25] <Rockett17> sorush20> bob2 is right, you pretty much install the package and set-up your shares using the tool in hoary and you're good to go.. all you need to do is set an samba password using the smbpasswd command
[08:26] <misfit_toy> justin, linksys wrt54g
[08:26] <X-Ubuntu> bob2
[08:26] <bob2> or use anonymous read-only shares
[08:26] <chol> misfit_toy, some kernels work, others don't and a 3:d work intermittantly
[08:26] <Rockett17> or that
[08:26] <ba5t4rd> well, been running ubuntu for about a week now and everything is working fine. just one niggling issue. sound quality is crap on my onboard audio, it's a realtek ALC850 anyone have ideas?
[08:26] <X-Ubuntu> grep -c breezy... said 0
[08:26] <bob2> ba5t4rd: is it mentioned on www.alsa-project.org?
[08:26] <Rockett17> just for my set-up I use the box as a storage place for my win desktops with mapped network drives
[08:26] <bob2> X-Ubuntu: ok, thanks
[08:27] <ba5t4rd> bob2: haven't checked, but will now
[08:27] <X-Ubuntu> why did I do that?
[08:27] <justin> misfit_toy: is the default gateway really set right?
[08:27] <ompaul> justin, I should, and I guess some minor, nay regular punctation might have helped. :)
[08:27] <bob2> X-Ubuntu: I was curious as to whether the problem was because you were using breezy or not
[08:27] <X-Ubuntu> oh
[08:28] <bob2> sorush20: please talkin the channel
[08:28] <ajchavez> alquien sabes coo instalar los driver de nvidia en ubuntu
[08:28] <thechitowncubs> My friend is trying to import his photos but when he plugs his Digital Rebel XT it doesn't show up asking him to import it
[08:28] <ajchavez> ?
[08:28] <bob2> sorush20: also, why are you installing it from source? samba's already in ubuntu
[08:28] <bob2> thechitowncubs: does gphoto see it if you run it manually?
[08:28] <Rockett17> geez dont waste hours configuring samba from source.. just apt-get it
[08:28] <misfit_toy> justin, it is in the networking util, and looking at it from CLI it is, the only thing that disturbs me is if you open the networking util there is a tab, the first tab, called 'connections' and a dropdown box at the bottom that says 'default gateway device' and instead of my router the only choice is wlan0, but over in the DNS tab I have the correct GW set up.
[08:29] <misfit_toy> justin, how can I clear out that first tab that says wlan0? I'm sure that's the issue.
[08:29] <misfit_toy> damn strange.
[08:29] <justin> misfit_toy: ifconfig wlan0 down ?
[08:29] <chol> misfit_toy, it should be wlan0, the device that can connect to the gw ip
[08:29] <thechitowncubs> is shows up in lsusb, but how can i run gphoto manually
[08:29] <osiris> has anyone had any troubles getting certain non-free packages with the sources they give you on ubuntuguide? im trying to install w32codecs and flashplayer-mozilla but apt cant find the packages but ive added the ones that ubuntuguide tells you to add? any help would be really appreciated also does it make a differance that im running ubuntu-amd64? is that why i cant get them?
[08:29] <debugger> does ubuntu have a central repository, where I can see the change logs of packages and stuff?
[08:29] <bob2> thechitowncubs: "gphoto" from a terminal...
[08:29] <justin> misfit_toy: er wait, are you trying to connect over wireless or ethernet?
[08:29] <misfit_toy> chol, oh I see what's it's saying then, that's kinda confusing
[08:29] <thechitowncubs> command not found
[08:29] <misfit_toy> justin, wireless
[08:30] <bob2> osiris: they're i386 binaries...
[08:30] <justin> misfit_toy: oh, then wlan0 is right
[08:30] <misfit_toy> I get it now, it's asking what device is the 'source' then.
[08:30] <bob2> osiris: they're not going to run on an amd64 system running the amd64 port of ubuntu
[08:30] <ren0> I have windows on hda1, SUSE on hda5 and Ubuntu on hda6 but grub-update seems to only pick up Windows and Ubuntu. How can I add SUSE to my grub list?
[08:30] <misfit_toy> ok so yeah, DNS is all set up correctly.
[08:30] <osiris> Damn.
[08:30] <bob2> osiris: if you care about proprietary stuff like that, it's probably easier to just install the i386 port of ubuntu
[08:30] <justin> misfit_toy: can you get to http://<IP_ADDRESS> ?
[08:30] <thechitowncubs> bob2: command not found :/
[08:30] <thechitowncubs> on my working computer and on his
[08:30] <misfit_toy> justin, yep, that's my router, just can't get past it.
[08:30] <Gh0sty> anyone running dualscreen with nvidia twinview here??? (not xinerama)
[08:31] <bob2> thechitowncubs: gphoto2 then
[08:31] <misfit_toy> justin, let me look at my MAC filters again, for the 19th time, heheh
[08:31] <osiris> bob2, but would i notice a decrease in speed?
[08:31] <misfit_toy> brb, I need a beer, or maybe 6.
[08:31] <bob2> osiris: apparently a small one
[08:31] <thechitowncubs> command not found :/
[08:31] <bob2> thechitowncubs: well, install it then
[08:31] <nickrud> debugger a good way to see changelogs is to run aptitude, highlight a package, and press shift-c
[08:31] <osiris> bob2, i dunno what to do then.
[08:31] <bob2> osiris: 04:30:33           bob2 | osiris: if you care about proprietary stuff like that, it's probably easier to just install the i386 port of ubuntu
[08:31] <bob2> osiris: that's what it comes down to
[08:31] <bob2> thechitowncubs: it's in the gphoto2 package
[08:32] <osiris> Yeah i dont know weather to go back to i386 or just stick with this.
[08:32] <debugger> nickrud, you don't known the CVS for that?  using CVS (or other SCM) tool is much more convenient for me.
[08:32] <thechitowncubs> bob2: is that installed on a default install?
[08:33] <thechitowncubs> because it wasn't for me
[08:33] <bob2> thechitowncubs: I'd have thought so
[08:33] <thechitowncubs> me too
[08:33] <debugger> nickrud, something like this: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/
[08:33] <bob2> but who knows, my camera does usb-storage, so I rsync my photos in ;)
[08:33] <X-Ubuntu> updated!
[08:33] <X-Ubuntu> thanks bob2
[08:33] <bob2> X-Ubuntu: working?
[08:33] <X-Ubuntu> yup
[08:33] <Gh0sty> anyone running dualscreen with nvidia twinview here??? (not xinerama)
[08:34] <bob2> Gh0sty: have you asked on the list yet?
[08:34] <Gh0sty> not yet
[08:34] <nickrud> debugger no clue on that, but since I use aptitude for package management the shift-c routine is very transparent to me
[08:34] <hondje> Gh0sty: maybe try #nvidia
[08:34] <Gh0sty> lol :)
[08:34] <Gh0sty> its ubuntu problem i think, not nvidia
[08:34] <Gh0sty> it works only as root, not as normal user
[08:35] <Gh0sty> don't really get it, run it like ages on debian
[08:35] <X-Ubuntu> there is no yum for ubuntu?
[08:35] <bob2> is your normal user in the video group?
[08:35] <we2by> what app can I use to rip audio from a cd?
[08:35] <bob2> X-Ubuntu: er, apt is what yum tries to imitate
[08:35] <osiris> X-Ubuntu, its apt-get
[08:35] <bob2> we2by: abcde
[08:35] <thoreauputic> X-Ubuntu: what for, when you have apt?
[08:35] <bob2> we2by: perhaps you'd prefer sound-juicer, tho
[08:35] <debugger> nickrud, ok thx.
[08:35] <X-Ubuntu> ok, so I could say apt install mplayer-gui
[08:36] <osiris> X-Ubuntu, Yep
[08:36] <Gh0sty> bob2: i don't even see a video group
[08:36] <osiris> X-Ubuntu, but its prob mplayer-i586
[08:36] <thoreauputic> X-Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install <package>
[08:36] <bob2> Gh0sty: there is by default
[08:36] <Gh0sty> wtf?
[08:37] <Gh0sty> it shows in console and not in group management on gnome
[08:37] <Gh0sty> hmmmmm
[08:37] <bob2> ignore the gnome group thing
[08:37] <Gh0sty> crap :p
[08:37] <Gh0sty> thx bob2
[08:37] <Gh0sty> think that'll be it :)
[08:37] <bob2> the lesson here is that you should ask your real questoin
[08:37] <yourghetek> need a hint here... its sudo (duh...) dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[08:38] <bob2> which was something like "I'm trying to get twinview working, but it only works for root"
[08:38] <misfit_toy> as much as I hate to do this, I'm going to reboot, I think between making all these changes and swapping out wireless nics that this box is confused.
[08:38] <bob2> instead of "who knows about twinview???"
[08:38] <misfit_toy> there it goes...man ubuntu is fast.
[08:38] <thoreauputic> yourghetek: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:38] <bob2> yourghetek: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:38] <yourghetek> thanks
[08:38] <misfit_toy> I'm on a fedora box here.
[08:38] <X-Ubuntu> apt-get only finds stuff on ubuntu server?
[08:38] <Gh0sty> bob2: no i asked for someone who had it running :)
[08:38] <yourghetek> thoreauputic beats bob2 by a few milliseconds!
[08:38] <bob2> Gh0sty: right, but if you'd asked what I just suggested, I would have pointed you at the video group two hours ago
[08:38] <bob2> I'm too slow!
[08:38] <yourghetek> thanks guys
[08:38] <bob2> plus it's nearly 5am
[08:39] <bob2> so goodnight!
[08:39] <Gh0sty> btw its not that, my user is part of the group video it seems :)
[08:39] <thoreauputic> yourghetek: a rare occurrence ;)
[08:39] <X-Ubuntu> goodnight
[08:39] <yourghetek> hahaha
[08:39] <Gh0sty> i'm thinking of a rights problem with nvidia drivers or something
[08:39] <bob2> Gh0sty: look at the permissions of relevant things in /dev/
[08:39] <Gh0sty> its odd, when i start x as root (did it by accident actually) it works fine
[08:39] <Gh0sty> but not t he user
[08:39] <we2by> it's very slow!
[08:40] <voth> misfit_toy, i take it your nick is from the old claymation cartoon Rudolph, the Red-Nosed Reindeer
[08:40] <X-Ubuntu> how do i config apt-get so I can get install packages from other places
[08:40] <X-Ubuntu> or just install yum
[08:41] <hondje> hehe, yum in a debian distro, that's good
[08:41] <sorush20> guys how do I run samba on my ubuntu
[08:41] <anto9us> we2by: it's encoding as well as ripping isn't it?
[08:41] <X-Ubuntu> yum in debian is bad?
[08:41] <misfit_toy> voth, yeah, I was watching it with my daughter one night and it seemed appropriate, heh
[08:41] <we2by> anto9us, I asume it is
[08:41] <thoreauputic> X-Ubuntu: umm... why woul you shoot yourself in the foot like that?
[08:41] <we2by> I'm converting it from cd format to mp3
[08:41] <hondje> yum in debian makes no sense
[08:41] <bob2> X-Ubuntu: yum won't work on Debian or Ubuntu at all
[08:41] <anto9us> we2by: not so slow if you consider the encoding, maybe?
[08:41] <X-Ubuntu> ok
[08:42] <bob2> X-Ubuntu: apt-get is what yum tries to imitate
[08:42] <we2by> anto9us, I have seen it alot faster on this box, but with another distro
[08:42] <thoreauputic> X-Ubuntu: apt > yum
[08:42] <WhiteRabbit> apt-get * cough * cvsup etc
[08:42] <X-Ubuntu> right, but is there a way to edit a config so that it looks for packages outside of ubuntu
[08:42] <bob2> X-Ubuntu: sure
[08:42] <bob2> X-Ubuntu: but why?
[08:42] <X-Ubuntu> like right now I am trying to find mplayer
[08:42] <thoreauputic> X-Ubuntu: 16 000 packages not enough for you?
[08:43] <we2by> it is doing it at 1.5x
[08:43] <bob2> X-Ubuntu: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:43] <bob2> X-Ubuntu: mplayer is in ubuntu
[08:43] <thoreauputic> X-Ubuntu: mplayer is in multiverse
[08:43] <anto9us> we2by: encoding is very processor intensive, maybe the bitrate you're encoding is higher, did you specify a target bitrate?
[08:43] <we2by> anto9us, nope
[08:43] <we2by> I'm using Sound juice
[08:43] <X-Ubuntu> ooooohhhh
[08:43] <we2by> I don't see any where to specify the bitrate
[08:44] <sorush20> anyone using KDE3 on Ubuntu
[08:44] <sorush20> ...
[08:44] <bob2> sorush20: lots of people do in #kubuntu
[08:44] <we2by> sorsis, that's kubuntu
[08:44] <thoreauputic> we2by: you might prefer grip
[08:44] <anubisds> wtf is the difference between kbuntu and ubuntu?
[08:44] <sorush20> okay...
[08:44] <anubisds> can you not run kde on ubuntu?
[08:44] <yourghetek> im on kde3
[08:44] <thoreauputic> anubisds: sure
[08:45] <anubisds> kbun just comes w/ it as default?
[08:45] <yourghetek> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:45] <thoreauputic> anubisds: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:45] <bob2> anubisds: kubuntu = ubuntu with kde installed
[08:45] <bob2> anubisds: yes
[08:45] <thoreauputic> yourghetek: beat me ;)
[08:45] <yourghetek> score!
[08:45] <anubisds> gotcha gotcha, thanks for the info
[08:45] <anubisds> I suppose I will give KDE an install
[08:45] <sorush20> No one has really told me how to run samba,,, so that I can share files on My windows machine and on my Ubuntu machine..... can anyone point me in the right direction please... thank you....
[08:45] <yourghetek> oh and then you are gonna want to add kde3.4.1 into your repositories
[08:46] <thoreauputic> sorush20: http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=site%3A+ubuntulinux.org+%22samba%22&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[08:46] <anubisds> i've been using ubuntu for that long, trying to replace my windows PVR machine w/ linux
[08:46] <yourghetek> mmm
[08:47] <IcemanV9> sorush20: check this out, too > http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[08:47] <misfit_toy> *beer even
[08:47] <Rockett17> ARGHH!! one of the SQL servers here at work is on the blink and has been beeping for like 4 hours, and it's just down the hall.. it's making me mental
[08:47] <anubisds> ubuntu is pretty phatty
[08:47] <misfit_toy> now I can't ping the router again.
[08:47] <yourghetek> bill gates was a sexy guy in my mind until i replaced him with a cute little penguin
[08:47] <lsuactiafner> lol
[08:47] <synd> !seen nalioth
[08:47] <ubotu> nalioth<EMAIL_ADDRESS>was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 14h 24m 17s ago, saying: 'y'all be good'.
[08:47] <synd> bastard
[08:47] <misfit_toy> I think I'll just give this wireless nic to charity and put the sony wireless back in, it works fine, but I wanted G speed not B.
[08:48] <synd> misfit_toy, you can mail it to me : )
[08:48] <IcemanV9> < charity case
[08:48] <svmaris> hi
[08:48] <misfit_toy> synd, IM me your address
[08:48] <anubisds> copper > wireless
[08:48] <fr500> hey
[08:49] <fr500> i damaged my mbr with longhorn, now my grub gives error, i know how to recover in rh, but can i use the ubuntu install cd to recover grub?
[08:50] <synd> longhorn!
[08:50] <synd> bah!
[08:50] <fr500> lol
[08:50] <fr500> i was curious
[08:50] <anubisds> fr: probably boot single and run grub-install
[08:50] <fr500> boot single
[08:50] <fr500> brb
[08:50] <X-Ubuntu> totem doesn't play .avi
[08:51] <anubisds> X-Ubuntu, use vlc, vlc is sweet
[08:51] <gangalee> what's the cups admin user for Hoary?
[08:51] <X-Ubuntu> vlc?
[08:51] <Rockett17> or use totem-xine and install the w32codecs pack
[08:51] <X-Ubuntu> sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:52] <anubisds> werd
[08:52] <fr500> anubisds, i should type boot single?
[08:52] <Rockett17> vlc is sweet though
[08:52] <anubisds> fr500, I think just "single"
[08:52] <fr500> nope
[08:52] <cusco_> hi... how do I print in the network
[08:52] <cusco_> I mean
[08:52] <simder> where can i get the w32codecs
[08:52] <anubisds> X-Ubuntu, you'll need to install the alsa plugin if you use alsa also
[08:52] <cusco_> I have a windows machine with aprinter... and I have a linux machine with a printer
[08:52] <Jet2k5> hello
[08:52] <synd> cusco_, did you enable detect LAN printers in the printing prefs?
[08:53] <X-Ubuntu> no go on vlc
[08:53] <cusco_> no.. where are those prefs synd ?
[08:53] <ompaul> gangalee, does this help you any? system -> administation -> printing
[08:53] <gangalee> even detect LAN printers is flaky
[08:53] <Jet2k5> can someone help me?  I'm having some serious problem with my internet
[08:53] <anubisds> X-Ubuntu, are you using multiverse?
[08:53] <kvidell> Jet2k5: What kinds of problems?
[08:53] <X-Ubuntu> yeah totem
[08:53] <Rockett17> w32codecs is also on multiverse i think
[08:53] <cusco_> synd: then what?
[08:53] <X-Ubuntu> i dont know, i just installed
[08:53] <Jet2k5> kvidell: well for one my internet is no longer working under ubuntu
[08:53] <yourghetek> thoreauputic would be happy to help you... hehe
[08:53] <X-Ubuntu> and updated
[08:53] <gangalee> ompaul: done that already, but I goto http://localhost:631 or http://localhost:631/admin....?
[08:53] <cusco_> synd: I got you
[08:54] <X-Ubuntu> just trying to place some movies
[08:54] <kvidell> wired or wireless?
[08:54] <Jet2k5> kvidell: it keeps on saying that there is an error in name resolution
[08:54] <X-Ubuntu> play
[08:54] <synd> cusco_, you got me?
[08:54] <kvidell> ah.. what does your /etc/resolv.conf look like?
[08:54] <yourghetek> Jet2k5 go to konsole and ping yahoo.com
[08:54] <simder> where can i get the w32codecs
[08:54] <Jet2k5> I'm on windows right now
[08:54] <Jet2k5> but yes I'm able to ping things
[08:54] <simder> i do not find it about synaptic
[08:54] <Jet2k5> not domain names
[08:54] <HappyFool> simder: have you looked at wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[08:54] <ompaul> gangalee, why do you need to? (you would need to enable root to do cups)
[08:54] <Jet2k5> only physical addresses
[08:55] <Jet2k5> like <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:55] <Jet2k5> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:55] <cusco_> thaks synd
[08:55] <simder> no, mom
[08:55] <kvidell> You'll want to make sure your resolv.conf is clean then. If there's a "search" line at the top of it I'd recomend removing that and seeing if that fixes it. If you need some good hard DNS servers to try, I use <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:55] <gangalee> ompaul: because my printers are dropping off, switching up, & acting weird. I wanted to be able to see more config options
[08:55] <kvidell> They'll need to be on a line that starts with "nameserver "
[08:55] <gfxstyler> hey
[08:55] <HappyFool> Jet2k5: you can read your ubuntu partition (if it's ext3) using a tool called explore2fs -- so you can check out what /etc/resolv.conf is without rebooting
[08:55] <kvidell> save and try pinging again.
[08:55] <yourghetek> i do the server install and kubuntu-desktop b/c i want a slim installation and now i see it downloading and installing openoffice?! rubbish!
[08:55] <gangalee> ompaul: but I don't have the cups admin user
[08:55] <HappyFool> Jet2k5: i mean, you can read it from windows
[08:56] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[08:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:56] <thoreauputic> simder: just read that thoroughly
[08:56] <yourghetek> !kubuntu
[08:56] <ubotu> yourghetek: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:56] <yourghetek> just checking
[08:56] <simder> yes, thank you... the link is great!
[08:56] <ompaul> gangalee, so what you do 'sudo -s' then 'passwd'
[08:56] <synd> cusco_ did it work?
[08:56] <Rockett17> simder> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ shows u how to add the w32codecs
[08:56] <gfxstyler> can someone tell me if it would speed up my performance if i compile my own packages for i686 and pentium4? or should i use the ones from the ubuntu repositories?
[08:57] <thoreauputic> gfxstyler: the latter
[08:57] <Jet2k5> hold on guys brbr
[08:57] <gangalee> no, I'm going through the web interface, see http://localhost:631, try Administrative Tasks, a pop-up appears asking for username & passwd
[08:57] <gfxstyler> ahhh a bird bashed into my window O.O
[08:58] <HappyFool> gangalee: when i browse localhost:631 i get a message at the top of the page like this: "Administrative tasks have been disabled for security reasons. Please use Menu System > Administration > Printing."
[08:58] <synd> gfxstyler: ouch
[08:58] <dooglus> thoreauputic: it would speed up performance if he compiled his own packages, surely?
[08:58] <simder> Rockett17> I'm very impressed of the ubuntu dist. an this comunity
[08:58] <cusco_> synd: yes thnaks
[08:58] <synd> cusco_ nice
[08:59] <synd> no prob
[08:59] <ompaul> gangalee, root and password
[08:59] <HappyFool> dooglus: probably only if you're doing serious number crunching
[08:59] <ba5t4rd> gfx: clean window
[08:59] <neville> can anyone tell me what to do to start hotkeys (e.g.) automatically when booting the PC?
[08:59] <gfxstyler> dooglus: its just that a few apps run faster on gentoo than on ubuntu, thats why i asked, but i would rather like to use ubuntu
[08:59] <thoreauputic> dooglus: well, i encourage the use of Ubuntu packages, because I don't want to hold people's hands whem they break their package management
[08:59] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:59] <gangalee> ompaul: try the Admin link, root & passwd don't work
[08:59] <gfxstyler> ba5t4rd: no he survived but looks a little confused :)
[09:00] <ompaul> gangalee, ahhh
[09:00] <ba5t4rd> heh
[09:00] <fr500> i damaged my mbr with longhorn, now my grub gives error, i know how to recover in rh, but can i use the ubuntu install cd to recover grub?
[09:00] <ompaul> gangalee, are they network printers or do they hang off other nodes?
[09:00] <bassplayer> when i run ubuntu my windows clock gets wrong ? what can i do to fix it ?
[09:00] <gangalee> network printers
[09:01] <ompaul> gangalee, can you telnet to them?
[09:01] <rg58sma> hi
[09:01] <thoreauputic> dooglus: but i guess that's presumptuous of me, so yaeh
[09:01] <rg58sma> i wanna see my svcd
[09:01] <gfxstyler> hi rg58sma
[09:01] <gfxstyler> rg58sma: why dont you do then? :)
[09:01] <rg58sma> hi
[09:01] <rg58sma> master
[09:02] <rg58sma> i dont know
[09:02] <anubisds> damn this PVR
[09:02] <anubisds> damn it to hell
[09:02] <anubisds> brb
[09:02] <rg58sma> i have installed mplayer-custom
[09:02] <rg58sma> mplayer-fonts
[09:02] <thoreauputic> bassplayer: rerun sudo base-config, and change the time to whatever it isn't currently (ie UTC/ non-UTC)
[09:02] <bassplayer> when i run ubuntu my windows clock gets wrong ? what can i do to fix it ?
[09:03] <rg58sma> mozilla-mplayer and xmms-mplayer
[09:03] <thoreauputic> bassMonkey: see my answer above
[09:03] <sorush20> guys how do I run XIne or what Im trying to do is run a DVD on Ubuntu
[09:03] <rg58sma> i have an atlhon
[09:03] <thoreauputic> bassplayer: sorry that was for you
[09:03] <gangalee> ompaul: I can telnet & http browse it
[09:03] <bassplayer> thoreaputic - and where is the base config file ??
[09:03] <gfxstyler> sorush20: i had to install totem-xine and libdvdcss and libdvdplay to watch pirates of the carribean with gxine
[09:03] <jeffrey> ok for some reason apt-get cant find java
[09:04] <IcemanV9> ompaul: that's true, but not many ppl know what to do once telnet to the printer :)
[09:04] <thoreauputic> bassMonkey: no, run the command : ` sudo base-config`
[09:04] <gfxstyler> jeffrey: you can download j2re on the sun.com site i guess
[09:04] <gangalee> what's that gnome-panel restart command? restart or killall?
[09:04] <thoreauputic> damn i mean bassplayer
[09:04] <jeffrey> hm yes but its much easier to be able to get it with ap-get
[09:04] <pepsi> how can i make my clock sync with time servers?
[09:04] <Seveas> jeffrey: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[09:04] <jeffrey> i told it to look in the universe or whatever
[09:04] <rg58sma> please need help
[09:04] <X-Ubuntu> ubuntu is phat!
[09:05] <zephyrnovo> yes it is..
[09:05] <pepsi> checking "Periodically synchronize clock with Internet servers" in the Time and Date settings doesnt help
[09:05] <X-Ubuntu> and to think i was trying to install yellowdog
[09:05] <zephyrnovo> i just can't get php to install.
[09:05] <gfxstyler> rg58sma: you didnt tell whats the problem
[09:05] <X-Ubuntu> pffff
[09:05] <rg58sma> yes
[09:05] <rg58sma> i cant see
[09:05] <rg58sma> my svcd movies
[09:05] <zephyrnovo> X-Ubuntu: isn't there some apt-get for it? (PHP) -- if not -- why not.
[09:05] <synd> X-Ubuntu: you a PPC user?
[09:05] <justin> rg58sma: stop pressing enter after every 2 words
[09:05] <X-Ubuntu> yup
[09:06] <rg58sma> ok
[09:06] <rg58sma> im sorry
[09:06] <X-Ubuntu> ubuntu totally rules
[09:06] <X-Ubuntu> except i cant play any movies atm
[09:06] <zephyrnovo> humm...
[09:06] <zephyrnovo> anyone here use php?
[09:06] <X-Ubuntu> i need to edit my repositories
[09:06] <X-Ubuntu> i use php
[09:06] <Rumbo_> guys, anyone know a good URL / book i can read to get more aquainted with Ubuntu programs / package management etc. I'm used to using a debian console for programming/debugging but have no experience in configuration of linux systems
[09:06] <DagaZ> zephyrnovo, I use php
[09:06] <hondje> X-Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:06] <gfxstyler> X-Ubuntu: do you use totem to play them?
[09:06] <zephyrnovo> X-Ubuntu: on you r local systtem?
[09:07] <X-Ubuntu> yes
[09:07] <synd> !restricted
[09:07] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:07] <rg58sma> and my mplayer close automatic
[09:07] <gfxstyler> X-Ubuntu: have you tried to use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer?
[09:07] <Rockett17> totem-xine rocks
[09:07] <synd> X-Ubuntu have you tried vlc? :p
[09:07] <thoreauputic> Rumbo_: if you are familiar with Debian, ubuntu is almost the same
[09:07] <HappyFool> Rumbo_: there's something called the apt-howto, though if you're from debian i guess you know it
[09:07] <gfxstyler> yes wxvlc is the best of all
[09:07] <Rockett17> esp with w32codecs.. you can throw anything at it
[09:07] <zephyrnovo> X-Ubuntu: obvious question -- how do i get php to install?
[09:07] <yourghetek> i love knome
[09:07] <sorush20> gfxstyler: I've downloaded totem-xine, and its a debian package ... how do I install it...
[09:07] <synd> knome?
[09:07] <synd> lol
[09:07] <X-Ubuntu> i cant get apt-get to find w32codecs or vlc
[09:07] <simder> how can I make a backup of all my files (like a image) on a dvd?
[09:08] <Rockett17> u need multiverse
[09:08] <synd> is that like.. GDE?
[09:08] <gfxstyler> sorush20: totem-xine is in the ubuntu repositories
[09:08] <synd> :d
[09:08] <X-Ubuntu> zephyrnovo: what system?
[09:08] <gfxstyler> sorush20: you install a package with dpkg -i packagename.deb
[09:08] <Rumbo_> well no, i don't know a whole lot of debian too, only gcc,g++,gdb valgrind (and some simple apt-get commands and editors)
[09:08] <X-Ubuntu> i tired totem-xine as well
[09:08] <zephyrnovo> ? what do you mean what system? -- UBuntu  5.04
[09:08] <fr500> arghhh, can't believe i messed up my ubuntu
[09:08] <thoreauputic> sorush20: no - use apt or synaptic to install packages (totem-xine is there)
[09:08] <X-Ubuntu> and it said it pointed to another system
[09:08] <fr500> it was so nicely setup
[09:08] <synd> Rumbo_: ubuntu is a great distro to start with
[09:08] <X-Ubuntu> ive only installed php on os x
[09:08] <zephyrnovo> ahhhh.
[09:09] <sao> hi all
[09:09] <sao> needing some help
[09:09] <X-Ubuntu> but it aint hard
[09:09] <synd> Rumbo_: I knew neothing of the command line 3 months ago
[09:09] <HappyFool> Rumbo_: well, i'm not sure it's what you want, but you can try installing apt-howto-en and reading it
[09:09] <Rumbo_> yeah ubuntu is great so far...had mandriva running on my laptop and it kept 'freezing'
[09:09] <sao> just built <IP_ADDRESS> kernel
[09:09] <zephyrnovo> does anyone know how to combat this error....
[09:09] <zephyrnovo> "apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2"
[09:09] <HappyFool> Rumbo_: if you want to actually *make* packages, you might have to look elsewhere
[09:09] <sao> when booting got a black screen
[09:09] <zephyrnovo> derrr..
[09:09] <zephyrnovo> i hate this cut and paste
[09:09] <sao> any help plz
[09:09] <rg58sma> this is for me
[09:09] <rg58sma> ??
[09:09] <zephyrnovo> ./configure: line 5362: /usr/sbin/apxs: No such file or directory
[09:09] <X-Ubuntu> the only thing i need now besides videos is being able to either mount my os x partition or use it
[09:10] <Rumbo_> thanx will check out the apt-howto-en
[09:10] <neville> How can i automatically start processes when i turn on the computer in xfce?
[09:10] <zephyrnovo> the apache that i get on the auto install (apt-get install apache2) doesn't seem (according to the PHP installer) to have everything it needs.
[09:10] <X-Ubuntu> so maybe load the installer again and reformat my ext2 partition to include the space of the os x partition and just dump os x alltogether
[09:10] <HappyFool> zephyrnovo: i think that might be an apache tool. you might need an apache -dev package
[09:10] <gfxstyler> X-Ubuntu: mount /dev/blablabla /mnt/blablabla? i dont know anything about mac os x though
[09:10] <justin> X-Ubuntu: you can access the os X partition, dunno how stable hfs+ write support is though
[09:10] <zephyrnovo> apxs is...
[09:10] <Rockett17> zephyrnovo> I found it easier to compile Ap[ache 1.3 from source
[09:10] <sorush20> guys.. I have no Idea how to use apt but I've looked in synaptic and there isn't a totem-xine package...
[09:11] <zephyrnovo> ah dev thnx
[09:11] <Rockett17> personal preference though
[09:11] <thoreauputic> X-Ubuntu: this might interest you: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MacOnLinuxHowto
[09:11] <gfxstyler> sorush20: have you selected"universe multiverse" in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:11] <amittp> does anyone know software inlieu of edit plus in linux - should be able to edit files over sftp
[09:11] <HappyFool> zephyrnovo: hm. i don't see apache2-dev (?) not sure if apache-dev is what you want
[09:12] <X-Ubuntu> yeah i tried mol on my g4
[09:12] <X-Ubuntu> with yellowdog
[09:12] <justin> amittp: vim?
[09:12] <X-Ubuntu> but i think cuz i had tiger it didnt work right
[09:12] <zephyrnovo> but it has apache2-prefork-dev
[09:12] <zephyrnovo> do i want prefork or thread?
[09:12] <sorush20> Sorry.. I have not Idea what you guys are talking about... universe or multiverse... what is that...
[09:12] <dooglus> when I boot ubuntu, I see a message "syncing time with ubuntu.com" or something like that
[09:12] <zephyrnovo> i'm thinking threaded right?
[09:12] <gfxstyler> is there a way to view cam with gnomemeeting -> netmeeting?
[09:12] <HappyFool> zephyrnovo: err. dunno. sorry ;)
[09:12] <dooglus> I had assumed that meant it was running ntp, but I don't see any ntp process running now - should I?
[09:13] <dooglus> do you see any 'ntp' process?
[09:13] <gfxstyler> sorush20: type this into the console: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:13] <HappyFool> dooglus: i think it just runs 'ntpdate', not ntpd
[09:13] <dooglus> HappyFool: you're right - but I don't see anything running with 'ntp' in its name
[09:13] <HappyFool> dooglus: i.e., a one off thing, not a long-lived daemon process
[09:13] <gfxstyler> sorush: then attach "universe multiverse" to every line that starts with "deb" and "deb-src"
[09:13] <b2s> dooglus: its a one time sync at boot
[09:13] <ba5t4rd> okay still having issues with my audio. did a search of the forums and most ALC850 issues seem to be unanswered. my lspci shows this   "0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00ea (rev a1)"    i'm having popping and static in the sound. anyc lues?
[09:13] <thoreauputic> dooglus: there is ntpdate (which is the thing you saw) and an ntpdate daemon (which isn't installed by default)
[09:13] <dooglus> HappyFool: really?  what if my clock runs fast?  I need to keep rebooting?
[09:14] <dooglus> thoreauputic: aah, i see.
[09:14] <HappyFool> dooglus: setup a cron job, or install ntpd
[09:14] <Rumbo_> sorush: universe adds a lot of packages that you can install from your source repositories
[09:14] <zephyrnovo> SUNUV-A-DEPENDENCYLIST! just tried to apt-get the apache2-threaded-dev and holy crap -- this thing has 8+ dependencies that are not installable!
[09:14] <kvidell> sudo ntpdate time.nist.gov
[09:14] <kvidell> :-P
[09:14] <amittp> justin, oh, i hd no idea vim accepts sftp/scp as argument - this is awesome :)
[09:14] <HappyFool> dooglus: the ntpd man page is rather snooty about the cron option
[09:14] <justin> amittp: does rsync:// too.. try :help sftp:// and scroll down
[09:15] <amittp> thanks dude ! :0
[09:15] <amittp> :)
[09:15] <Rumbo_> what command-line editor do you guys use normally? I'm used to using pico...And sometimes vi.
[09:15] <Seveas> vim
[09:15] <gfxstyler> Rumbo_:vim
[09:16] <Seveas> Rumbo_, but please do not start the zillionth editor war :)
[09:16] <Rumbo_> isn't vi a bit rough because you have to know all those commands?
[09:16] <Rumbo_> seveas sorry :-)
[09:16] <justin> Rumbo_: vi is rough. vim is not. there are not that many commands
[09:16] <Seveas> Rumbo_, it has a steep learning curve, but once you know the basics, it rocks :)
[09:16] <HappyFool> Rumbo_: play nethack. you'll learn the vi movement commands quickly.
[09:16] <thoreauputic> Rumbo_: run away! Editor wars will start any momnet ! *grin*
[09:17] <Seveas> Rumbo_, vimtutor can help you through the rough times
[09:17] <Rumbo_> heheheeh
[09:17] <Rumbo_> ah cool
[09:17] <Rumbo_> -> checks out vimtutor and nethack
[09:17] <Rockett17> yeah vi was bitch to get used to when I first configured linux from a terminal
[09:18] <Rockett17> but after a while u cant stop using it
[09:18] <rg58sma> please i need helpwith svcd movie
[09:18] <Rumbo_> yeah well
[09:18] <Rumbo_> first time i used vi
[09:18] <Rumbo_> i really didn't know the :i command
[09:18] <Rumbo_> which basically is a pain if you want to edit a file :-)
[09:19] <rg58sma> please need help or be die
[09:19] <X-Ubuntu> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats helps a lot, thanks
[09:19] <lsuactiafner> Rockett17 : joe is nicer
[09:19] <thoreauputic> Rumbo_: for a truly frustrating experience, try using " ed" ;)
[09:19] <Rockett17> never used joe
[09:19] <Rockett17> too used to vi now
[09:20] <lsuactiafner> joe is teh ....
[09:20] <lsuactiafner> joe has colour support for programing
[09:20] <justin> lsuactiafner: so does vim.
[09:20] <Rumbo_> doesn't vi have colour support to?
[09:20] <Rumbo_> or vim (i haven't used that yet)
[09:20] <thoreauputic> rg58sma: your questions are always so vague - and you are surprised that no one can help?
[09:20] <lsuactiafner> vim has a funny name..
[09:20] <Rockett17> midnight-commander used to have a nice text editor for redhat too
[09:20] <lsuactiafner> therefore it cant be good
[09:20] <lsuactiafner> mc isnice for copying
[09:20] <HappyFool> rg58sma: please read http://wiku.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats carefully for instructions
[09:21] <gfxstyler> sorry have to go, see you later
[09:21] <lsuactiafner> HappyFool : we should write a util to find the most common used expressions in this channel and contruct a howto from it
[09:22] <HappyFool> i guess that's what ubuto's for. and the wiki.
[09:22] <lsuactiafner> man lets make it overcomplicated
[09:22] <thoreauputic> lsuactiafner: ubotu has a factoid for that URL - it's !restricted
[09:22] <lsuactiafner> and unsimple..
[09:22] <Rumbo_> i looked at that wiki page but man there's a lot of info over there
[09:22] <HappyFool> setting up video is frustrating, especially for the inexperienced
[09:22] <HappyFool> err, video playback
[09:22] <Jet2k5> kvidell: anyhow sorry but can you message me what you said
[09:23] <Jet2k5> I had to run out and do something and I lost it
[09:23] <lsuactiafner> yeh
[09:23] <lsuactiafner> we should just write a script to edit sources ect
[09:23] <lsuactiafner> doesnt even need to be official. just some arb post
[09:24] <Rockett17> yeah really a script to add multiverse and universe would be nice
[09:24] <lsuactiafner> like a post on slashdot..
[09:24] <dooglus> which package should I use for the ntp daemon?  "ntp" or "openntpd"?
[09:24] <HappyFool> Rockett17: adding multiverse and universe is fairly easy with synaptic
[09:25] <Rockett17> that's true
[09:25] <Rockett17> however I forgot about that and just "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list" out of habit
[09:26] <lsuactiafner> yeh but a script would be an easier referance
[09:26] <lsuactiafner> to apt-get mplayer ect
[09:26] <Rockett17> plus I don't use this system's gui very often.. I am usually shh'd in on a terminal services session at work
[09:26] <Rockett17> ssh^
[09:26] <lsuactiafner> yeh also hang around in console more than gui
[09:27] <Joe_Powerbook> someone might want to change the MOTD as it appears the torrent tracker is back online
[09:27] <Jet2k5> kvidell: you there?
[09:27] <sorush20> Guys  what is the easiest way to run a dvd on Ubuntu
[09:27] <kvidell> no
[09:27] <kvidell> yes
[09:27] <kvidell> er
[09:27] <kvidell> go ahead.
[09:28] <AirWays> I just have installed eggdrop with "sudo apt-get install eggdrop", but where is it now?
[09:28] <HappyFool> !restricted
[09:28] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:28] <AirWays> I cant find it anywhere
[09:28] <X-Ubuntu> damn, no right click
[09:28] <lsuactiafner> ummm
[09:28] <HappyFool> sorush20: read that link (the one ubotu posted)
[09:28] <epl> AirWays: dpkg -L eggdrop
[09:28] <HappyFool> sorush20: it will tell you how
[09:28] <rg58sma> hi
[09:28] <rg58sma> need help
[09:29] <thoreauputic> X-Ubuntu: play with your F11 and F12 keys
[09:29] <rg58sma> another player with svcd support??
[09:29] <AirWays> thaks
[09:29] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> vlc ?
[09:29] <rg58sma> not mplayer
[09:29] <rg58sma> mmm
[09:29] <X-Ubuntu> thanks
[09:29] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> np
[09:29] <rg58sma> dont work for my svcd movie
[09:30] <AirWays> Where I can find Eggdrops config file, it says at startup "Please make sure you edit your config file compketely"
[09:30] <Seveas> AirWays, dpkg -S eggdrop
[09:30] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> is your svcd special format ?
[09:30] <Seveas> AirWays, dpkg -L eggdrop
[09:30] <Seveas> not the first one :)
[09:30] <epl> AirWays: /usr/share/doc/eggdrop/
[09:31] <orospakr> hi!  I have a small network of hoary machines which are moutning an NFS share off another hoary box.  however, I keep getting nsm_mon_unmon: rpc failed, status=-13
[09:31] <orospakr> lockd: cannot monitor <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:31] <orospakr>  on a new machine I am adding. what did I forget? :(
[09:31] <justin> rg58sma: do you know what an error message is?
[09:31] <orospakr> (whoops, sorry about the newlines)
[09:31] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> from what ive used svcd will work on VLC
[09:31] <random_> I have a soundcard that isn't autodetected. the helpsite says to download the latest alsa drivers. i've done so and have extracted it to my desktop. what do i do from here to get my sound working?
[09:31] <dieman> orospakr: nfs-common?
[09:31] <rg58sma> i dont know how to view errors==
[09:32] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> in console window launch video program
[09:32] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> the debug will be displayed in the term window you launched the app from
[09:32] <JovenComunista> i have a problem
[09:32] <rg58sma> ok
[09:33] <JovenComunista> installing a usb network adapter
[09:33] <JovenComunista> how do i make it worl
[09:33] <JovenComunista> work
[09:33] <JovenComunista> ???
[09:33] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> plug and pray :} joke
[09:33] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> lol
[09:34] <random_> can anyone point me in the right direction?
[09:34] <zephyrnovo> I've got a WIFI Adapter that isn't working... well it's working, finding acces points.. but it's... it's not getting an IP ADDRESS!
[09:34] <AndyR> JuNkPhreak|UnIx, it works for me :)
[09:34] <JovenComunista> very helpfull junkphreak
[09:34] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> hahah
[09:34] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> kewl
[09:34] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> sorry
[09:34] <rg58sma> with totem havent any error
[09:34] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> just had too
[09:34] <rg58sma> but the file dont start
[09:35] <JovenComunista> umm...
[09:35] <justin> rg58sma: what file?
[09:35] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> well when i install linux distros i use a # of diff players
[09:35] <random_> I have a soundcard that isn't autodetected. the helpsite says to download the latest alsa drivers. i've done so and have extracted it to my desktop. what do i do from here to get my sound working?
[09:35] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> kmplayer, olge , VLC , realplayer etc ...
[09:35] <justin> rg58sma: that is not how you play a vcd
[09:36] <justin> rg58sma: umount the cd and just run mplayer vcd://
[09:37] <rg58sma> ok friend
[09:37] <syntaxerror64> hi hondje
[09:37] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> JovenComunista : have you hit www.google.com/linux
[09:37] <hondje> Hi syntaxerror64
[09:37] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> or justlinux.com ?
[09:37] <rg58sma> all problem have fine with XINE
[09:37] <rg58sma> ten points
[09:37] <AirWays> Is eggdrops config files directory: /usr/share/eggdrop
[09:37] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> or linuxquestions.org
[09:37] <Rockett17> i'm hoping that xmms2 gets added the backports soon. I want to try it out.. (on the lines of media players)
[09:38] <Rumbo_> i noticed a lot of people talk about backports
[09:38] <syntaxerror64> hondje, do you know how to setup samba?
[09:38] <Rumbo_> what is a backport exactly?
[09:38] <hondje> syntaxerror64: Not really, no
[09:39] <syntaxerror64> hondje, oh ok.  i am able to see my windows computers on the network from ubuntu fine, but i cannot get the windows machine to see the shared folder in ubuntu.
[09:39] <HappyFool> syntaxerror64: how have you setup the share ?
[09:39] <hondje> I use nfs for everything, syntaxerror64
[09:39] <dooglus> dooglus: all you need to do to get ntpd working is "sudo apt-get install ntp-simple" - that will start the daemon and arrange for it to start every time you boot
[09:40] <dooglus> dooglus: thanks
[09:40] <syntaxerror64> HappyFool, uhm, i went to system/admininstration/shared folders
[09:40] <syntaxerror64> HappyFool, setup a shared folder in there.
[09:40] <thoreauputic> !samba
[09:40] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[09:40] <HappyFool> syntaxerror64: ah, fair enough
[09:40] <TooSad> i have installed mplayer-k and i have configured it but i can't listen to a wma file. why?
[09:41] <HappyFool> syntaxerror64: ok, why don't read that wiki page. if you still have problems, give me a shout
[09:41] <syntaxerror64> HappyFool, on my xp machine, when i browse the network it sees the ubuntu machine, but no shared folder under it.
[09:41] <hondje> I hate code that compiles with 10,000 warnings
[09:41] <syntaxerror64> HappyFool, i've been reading for about 3 hours all sorts of stuff trying to figure it out...  lol.  but i will check it out, thanks.
[09:41] <justin> syntaxerror64: try \\ubuntu\yourusername
[09:41] <HappyFool> syntaxerror64: i can help you tweak /etc/samba/smb.conf, but i think you should first read the page ubotu posted up there
[09:41] <rg58sma> jajaja
[09:41] <rg58sma> that it
[09:41] <justin> syntaxerror64: or whtaever the name of the computer name is
[09:41] <justin> er, yeah
[09:41] <syntaxerror64> justin, ok will do.
[09:41] <rg58sma> with <program name> vcd://
[09:41] <rg58sma> jajaja
[09:41] <syntaxerror64> HappyFool, i'll check it out and get back to you, thanks.
[09:42] <TooSad> who can help me?
[09:42] <justin> syntaxerror64: the default in debian ( never ran samba in ubuntu ) is that home directories are available, just not browsable, so you just have to access them directly the first time
[09:42] <hondje> TooSad: do you have win32codecs?
[09:42] <Rockett17> syntaxerror64> u can add more shares in the shares tool on the gnome desktop under settings
[09:43] <cavediver> Is there a good alternative gui ftp-client other than GFTP ?
[09:43] <rg58sma> i have another questions
[09:43] <TooSad> hondje: mplayer read wma in native mode or not?
[09:43] <TooSad> hondje: i have not w32
[09:43] <justin> cavediver: lftp?
[09:44] <zephyrnovo> jordan still there.
[09:44] <zephyrnovo> if so private message me
[09:44] <zephyrnovo> and provide the question again.
[09:44] <hondje> TooSad: Not a clue, but I'd suspect it doesn't
[09:45] <TooSad> mmm
[09:45] <TooSad> ok tnx
[09:45] <rg58sma> have a program to upload files to server (brinkster.com)
[09:45] <rg58sma> ??
[09:45] <IRCsloth> quick question... anyone having problems with 2d stuff consuming a lot of CPU on their ubuntu machines? I'm using the binary nvidia driver and in single monitor configurations and dual head things like scrolling text in a shell consume a ton of CPU
[09:45] <cavediver> justin: is that a gui client ?
[09:45] <justin> cavediver: close enough :-)
[09:46] <cavediver> Well... no console-client's please :)
[09:46] <cavediver> I hate those.
[09:46] <cavediver> :)
[09:46] <justin> cavediver: why?
[09:46] <IRCsloth> The machine is a fairly fast machine, P4 2.4Ghz, 1GB ram, fast disk etc. Nvidia 5200FX 256meg AGP video
[09:46] <orospakr> dieman, ah, thanks!
[09:46] <thoreauputic> cavediver: there's kbear, but it's a qt/kde app
[09:46] <IcemanV9> hondje: can i /msg u something (not related to ubuntu)?
[09:46] <hondje> Sure, IcemanV9
[09:46] <rg58sma> have a program to upload files to server (brinkster.com)??
[09:47] <hondje> IRCsloth: you're using nvidia drivers, or nv?
[09:47] <Thorrn4> hello! what is the beginning version of the ubuntu linux kernel?
[09:47] <IRCsloth> nividia drivers
[09:47] <cavediver> thoreauputic: ok... i have no kde components installed unfortenately... I refuse to install it :=
[09:47] <thoreauputic> cavediver: OK
[09:47] <hondje> IRCsloth: I have 5200, never saw anything like that
[09:47] <Thorrn4> hello! what is the beginning version of the ubuntu linux kernel?
[09:47] <justin> cavediver: do you know that nautilus does ftp and stuff?
[09:48] <thoreauputic> Thorrn4: if you mean the current Ubuntu, then 2.6.10
[09:48] <cavediver> justin: no i didn't.. but i doubt it can handle queing and such .
[09:48] <IRCsloth> yeah, it sucks... if I have a full screen terminal window and I'm doing a large ls or something that scrolls a lot of text my CPU monitor goes to 100% usage
[09:48] <justin> cavediver: no, but lftp can
[09:48] <cavediver> I can't download one thing, continue to browse and add other stuff in gftp. Otherwise, I like it.
[09:49] <justin> IRCsloth: are you using gnome-terminal?
[09:49] <HappyFool> IRCsloth: as a matter of interest, what terminal? xterm?
[09:49] <odie5533> how do I make a shortcut?
[09:49] <IRCsloth> sorry, yeah, gnome terminal
[09:49] <IRCsloth> I thought it was a font issue
[09:49] <cavediver> odie5533: rightclick on the Desktop or whatever.. Create launcher
[09:49] <IRCsloth> but even in default mode it seems to use a large amount of CPU
[09:50] <hubidubi> hi
[09:50] <IRCsloth> 3d stuff like tuxracer is nice and fast
[09:51] <IRCsloth> maybe it's gnome-terminal?
[09:51] <odie5533> Can I make a launcher that doesnt open a new window for nautilus?
[09:51] <pestilence> could somebody explain to me why acroread 7 in the backports repository depends on libgcc1 4.0?  and if i install that, will that mean i have gcc version 4?
[09:51] <pestilence> i don't want gcc 4...
[09:51] <justin> IRCsloth: gnome-terminal uses AA for stuff, and nvidia drivers come with the renderaccel option off by default... that's why it is slow
[09:51] <justin> IRCsloth: a normal xterm will be really fast
[09:52] <E0x> or can enable renderaccel
[09:52] <_kevin> Is Alsa sound better then esound?
[09:52] <IRCsloth> what does renderaccel do?
[09:53] <justin> IRCsloth: either makes things go faster, or makes things crash
[09:53] <syntaxerror64> HappyFool, you still here?
[09:53] <IRCsloth> haha
[09:53] <hondje> Who knows, but it improves performance in X
[09:53] <HappyFool> syntaxerror64: yeah
[09:53] <syntaxerror64> HappyFool, thanks so much i got it all working.
[09:53] <IRCsloth> going to take a look at my config, thanks
[09:53] <HappyFool> syntaxerror64: err. i did nothing ;)
[09:53] <syntaxerror64> HappyFool, that wiki page was exactly what i needed, thanks to whomever posted that.
[09:54] <HappyFool> syntaxerror64: that was thoreauputic ;). glad to hear you got it working
[09:54] <thoreauputic> syntaxerror64: thank the bot ;)
[09:54] <syntaxerror64> HappyFool, i have the shared folder i mounted and my home dir showing up in network places on xp now.
[09:54] <HappyFool> syntaxerror64: what was the problem (in brief) ?
[09:55] <syntaxerror64> HappyFool, i had something set incorrectly in smb.conf, and i was not logging in from my windows machine properly.
[09:55] <rg58sma> have a program to upload files to server (brinkster.com)??
[09:56] <IcemanV9> ftp
[09:56] <HappyFool> rg58sma: i don't know what brinkster.com is. there are lots of programs for 'uploading files', like ftp
[09:56] <Amaranth> smeg 0.7.5 is out! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38183
[09:56] <Amaranth> :)
[09:56] <matt_> just wondering.. I'm running ubuntu through VMWare on windowsXP. my wireless network seems to be automatically connected in ubuntu.. so I'm assuming this is just using the connection which is already present in XP?
[09:56] <syntaxerror64> now if i could just get my brother laser printer to share i would be set.  :)
[09:57] <matt_> i had expected to have to setup the connection again in ubuntu, with WEP key etc.
[09:57] <anolis_> hey guys whats up
[09:57] <Amaranth> matt_: Yeah, it's just sharing the connection with WinXP, you'd actually have to set it up if you installed for real (wep key and all that).
[09:57] <justin> matt_: vmware most likely just bridged the connection
[09:57] <rg58sma> ok
[09:57] <Amaranth> matt_: ubuntu in vmware is seeing a regular network card
[09:58] <rg58sma> but brinkster dot have suport for ftp
[09:58] <anolis_> hey Amaranth
[09:58] <rg58sma> is only http
[09:58] <sorush20> thanks guys.... I've just been able to play a DVD and I'm fully aware of the Multiverse and UNiverse... thanks for the help guys... I don't think I'll ever need to use a windows machine for the rest of my life...
[09:58] <hubidubi> is there a good backport for new mono packages for hoary?
[09:58] <anolis_> i put that script into a .py file and ran it from the command line, worked great
[09:58] <Amaranth> hi?
[09:58] <matt_> ahh yes. that makes sense... is there any way i could go about getting ubuntu see it as a wireless card
[09:58] <anolis_> :) cheers
[09:58] <Amaranth> anolis_: oh, yeah
[09:58] <rg58sma> or somehone knows a website to upload my files in ftp
[09:58] <Amaranth> anolis_: cool
[09:58] <matt_> i spose i should look in the vmware settings.
[09:58] <Amaranth> anolis_: run it again, new version is out :)
[09:58] <hubidubi> I need gtk-sharp >=1.0.8
[09:58] <anolis_> i just did it
[09:58] <anolis_> like 5 minutes ago
[09:58] <Amaranth> anolis_: ah, nice
[09:58] <Amaranth> anolis_: you have 0.7.5?
[09:59] <anolis_> lemme check
[09:59] <_kevin> hubdiduibi did you check synaptec
[09:59] <hondje> Is there a way to pass options to configure when using apt-get source -b, or are you stuck editing rules?
[09:59] <IcemanV9> way to go, sorush20 ! :)
[09:59] <sorush20> Guys when I'm playing a video DVD ... the playback is a little jumpy this was not the case in Windows.. can anyone help I'm using totem
[09:59] <anolis_> yep its .7.5
[09:59] <refuze2looze> anybody know what i can do with a CCD/IMG/SUB cdrom image? i tried using ccd2iso but that didn't work
[09:59] <hondje> sorush20: DMA
[10:00] <anolis_> :D
[10:00] <IcemanV9> i already ditched windows a month and half ago, sorush20
[10:00] <hubidubi> _kevin: sure
[10:00] <hubidubi> I checked it
[10:00] <Amaranth> anolis_: cool, good to know that script actually works (i've never ran it) :D
[10:00] <hondje> sorush20: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hd?, where ? is whatever your drive is
[10:00] <IRCsloth> anyone know what the NvAGP option is used for in xorg.conf?
[10:00] <refuze2looze> sorush20: try enabling DMA for your device (man hdparm) and also try using VLC media player it is better
[10:00] <IRCsloth> I see some people have it set to 0 or 3
[10:00] <IRCsloth> is that the AGP speed?
[10:00] <justin> IRCsloth: you have a /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz ?
[10:01] <IRCsloth> not sure, I'll check
[10:01] <IRCsloth> thanks
[10:01] <sorush20> what dose dma stand for and where is it...
[10:01] <anolis_> i need help with configuring my 2wire wireless pcmcia card, can someone help me?
[10:01] <nomasteryoda> DIrect Memory Access
[10:01] <jaysinn> When they say bots.  What are they refering too?
[10:01] <nomasteryoda> you can set it with hdparm
[10:02] <hondje> jaysinn: bots are chat scripts that serve various functions in IRC chans
[10:02] <refuze2looze> yeah, hdparm -d1 /dev/device
[10:02] <jaysinn> how do they execute?
[10:02] <HappyFool> sorush20: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DMA
[10:02] <nomasteryoda> like ChanServ  or
[10:02] <J35U5> @list
[10:03] <nomasteryoda> jaysinn, in xchat try '/msg ChanServ Help
[10:03] <thoreauputic> J35U5: this sin't a warez channel
[10:03] <anolis_> lol
[10:03] <osiris> hahaha
[10:04] <nobile> blah
[10:04] <osiris> @find pron_loads_of heh
[10:04] <anolis_> pron = rpon
[10:05] <jaysinn> '/msg ChanServ Help
[10:06] <HappyFool> try without the '
[10:07] <dieman> orospakr: np
[10:07] <jaysinn> whoa
[10:08] <refuze2looze> damn i hate these stupid cdrom images that are made with some specific windows software that you need to burn it
[10:08] <anolis_> like which type
[10:08] <refuze2looze> like ccd/img/sub
[10:09] <anolis_> isnt that a clone cd image?
[10:09] <refuze2looze> yeah
[10:09] <refuze2looze> i found some ccd2iso that didn't work
[10:09] <jaysinn> nomasteryoda, any other cool stuff?
[10:09] <Joxer> Hi, i have a problem regarding the making of a user account under the innstalation of ubuntu, anyone care to help me out ? :)
[10:09] <anolis_> why didnt it work
[10:09] <refuze2looze> what do you mean??
[10:09] <refuze2looze> clonecd is for windows
[10:09] <refuze2looze> there's not linux version
[10:09] <anolis_> ccd2iso
[10:09] <refuze2looze> ohh
[10:10] <anolis_> why didnt it work
[10:10] <refuze2looze> it said the ccd file is invalid or something
[10:10] <HappyFool> Joxer: what's going wrong ?
[10:10] <anolis_> joxer i can help
[10:10] <anolis_> just hold on
[10:10] <Joxer> HappyFool: Well, It refuses to make a user account in the innstaltion
[10:10] <refuze2looze> i managed to run UltraISO with crossover and convert it to ISO, but i don't think it's working right. can't burn with ultraiso though
[10:10] <sorush20> dev/hda:
[10:10] <sorush20>  multcount    =  0 (off)
[10:10] <sorush20>  IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
[10:10] <sorush20>  unmaskirq    =  0 (off)
[10:10] <sorush20>  using_dma    =  1 (on)
[10:10] <sorush20>  keepsettings =  0 (off)
[10:10] <sorush20>  readonly     =  0 (off)
[10:10] <sorush20>  readahead    = 256 (on)
[10:10] <sorush20>  geometry     = 65535/16/63, sectors =<PHONE_NUMBER>0, start = 0
[10:11] <anolis_> stop spamming sorush..
[10:11] <thoreauputic> sorush20: #flood or pastebin.com, please
[10:11] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> spam!
[10:11] <osiris> can anyone understand this? ive just downloaded a iso its 700 meg but when i come to burn it its only 52 meg?
[10:11] <osiris> ?
[10:11] <Joxer> prints some kind of message, but then goes back to to create account screen (fast)
[10:11] <sorush20> guys this is my out put for the DMA... what...
[10:11] <refuze2looze> sorush20: first of all stop that, second of all /dev/hda is your hard drive not your dvdrom drive
[10:11] <thoreauputic> sorush20: don't paste in the channel
[10:11] <sorush20> stop what..?
[10:11] <HappyFool> Joxer: hmm
[10:12] <thoreauputic> sorush20: pasting in the cahannel is spam
[10:12] <HappyFool> Joxer: well, you can create accounts after install
[10:12] <thoreauputic> *channel
[10:12] <sorush20> did you guys ever stop to think that I'm very new to all... this
[10:12] <refuze2looze> osiris: what kind of ISO is it
[10:12] <Joxer> HappyFool: how ? root is disabled, right ?
[10:12] <kudzubane> sorush20, paste stuff you want people to see to pastebin.com, then paste the link generated here
[10:12] <sorush20> pasting in a channel.. I was just giving info..
[10:12] <thoreauputic> sorush20: that's why I said please use #flood or pastebin.com
[10:12] <HappyFool> Joxer: hmm. so you're saying not even a 'default' account is being created
[10:12] <HappyFool> Joxer: what username are you giving ?
[10:12] <sorush20> okay... will try next time..
[10:12] <anolis_> i think what you need to do with ccd2iso is put ccd2iso <name.ccd> <nameyouwantit to change to.iso>
[10:12] <wdh> sorush20, for 2 or 3 lines that is nice.. but not much more
[10:12] <Joxer> HappyFool: im giving "joxer" as username, tryed lots of different ones too
[10:13] <HappyFool> Joxer: suboptimal
[10:13] <Joxer> huh ?
[10:13] <HappyFool> Joxer: sorry, i don't know what could be wrong, and i don't know if there are logs to check
[10:13] <IcemanV9> sorush20: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc (hope hdc is your CD drive)
[10:13] <Joxer> ok :/
[10:13] <HappyFool> Joxer: sorry, i was being silly. suboptimal just means bad
[10:13] <ceu> I have a 5.04 DVD iso with a wrong md5. Is there a rsync server? (for re-downloading only the wrong parts)
[10:13] <Joxer> aaaah, lol
[10:14] <Joxer> well, i tryed starting innstaltion again, to see if it works now
[10:14] <wdh> Joxer, s/tryed/tried
[10:14] <wdh> :)
[10:14] <refuze2looze> anolis_: yeah i know.. here's what it says Error at sector 0. The sector does not contain complete data. Sector size must be 2352, while actual data read is 789
[10:14] <HappyFool> Joxer: and? same thing?
[10:14] <justin> ceu: dunno about rsync, but bittorrent can fix the file for you too
[10:14] <refuze2looze> anolis_: i dont think the program works right
[10:14] <Joxer> HappyFool: Dunno, havent gotten that far again XD
[10:14] <refuze2looze> it's very pre mature
[10:14] <anolis_> i think something is wrong with the img :P
[10:14] <anolis_> lol
[10:14] <anolis_> i dont know tho
[10:15] <HappyFool> Joxer: how big's the partition you're trying to install on ?
[10:15] <refuze2looze> anolis_: i highly doubt that.. UltraISO didn't complain about it.. although i'm not really sure if it converted it correctly
[10:15] <Joxer> HappyFool: 7gb
[10:15] <justin> ceu: I think as long as the bytes aren't shifted over.. I think bittorrent just redownloads chunks, so if you somehow were missing the first byte it would still download the whole thing :-)
[10:15] <hellraiser_rob> whats happening people!
[10:15] <hellraiser_rob> ubuntu rocks!
[10:15] <HappyFool> Joxer: hrm, that should be plenty
[10:15] <Joxer> indeed
[10:15] <hellraiser_rob> :)
[10:16] <Belial-> anyone running Ubuntu on a TiBook 15" ?
[10:16] <ceu> justin: I'm using a dial-up link... I *can't* download 2 gb of data :-)
[10:16] <anolis_> can someone help me setup my 2wire wireless pcmcia card?
[10:18] <ziopino2> hola a todos
[10:18] <random_> how do i get alsamixer?
[10:18] <anolis_> como esta senor
[10:19] <ziopino2> bien
[10:19] <jaysinn> Does anyone now a good site for learning the xchat basics?
[10:19] <ziopino2> exit
[10:19] <refuze2looze> random_: when you type alsamixer in a terminal it doesn't work?
[10:19] <random_> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[10:19] <anolis_> yea
[10:20] <refuze2looze> random_: try apt-get -i alsa-utils
[10:20] <Joxer> HappyFool: i have figured out what was the problem
[10:20] <maxo> Hello, I'm considering installing Ubuntu, but I need to know whether it's OK with wireless cards? My Wireless cards is supported by ndiswrapper, but I'm worried that it's going to be fiddly to set up in Ubuntu?
[10:20] <kudzubane> thinking about ploping ubuntu on an ibook, anyone with similar setup?
[10:20] <anolis_> www.linuxquestions.org
[10:20] <Joxer> HappyFool: If you are interested in knowing what the problem is, in case anyone else ever has the same problem ;)
[10:20] <random_> E: Command line option 'i' [from -i]  is not known.
[10:20] <jaysinn> i have it on a mac mini
[10:21] <justin> maxo: try the livecd
[10:21] <anolis_> try the live cd
[10:21] <HappyFool> Joxer: please tell
[10:21] <refuze2looze> random_: apt-get install alsa-utils
[10:21] <kudzubane> jaysinn, how is the hardware support (been a while since i"ve played with linux on the mac)
[10:21] <Joxer> HappyFool: Well, apparently the innstalation dossnt like it when you have a scroll lock key that goes on an off, lol
[10:21] <maxo> justin: is the live cd a seperate iso I have to download?
[10:22] <HappyFool> Joxer: hmm. ok. i'll remember
[10:22] <dhewg> is grub x86 identical to grub amd64?
[10:22] <HappyFool> Joxer: thanks
[10:22] <Joxer> HappyFool, lol, ok, Well, thanks for the help anyways ;)
[10:22] <anolis_> max: yes
[10:22] <refuze2looze> random_: i dont know, try searching for what package contains it in packages.ubuntu.org
[10:22] <justin> maxo: yes
[10:22] <gylf> maxo: yes live CD is different from the install cd, but I don't think the live cd comes w/ ndiswrapper... you might want to try knopix if your just testing your wireless compatibility w/ ndiswrapper
[10:23] <maxo> well I don't really want to download another iso. basically could someone just tell me if they're on ubuntu now with their wireless card using ndiswrapper?
[10:23] <gylf> maxo: my wireless card works in ubuntu w/ ndiswrapper
[10:23] <justin> maxo: lots of people use wireless with cards that are actually supported.
[10:23] <anolis_> which wireless card do you have
[10:23] <picasso> hi. i just installed linux and i'm having some difficulty with my soundcard
[10:24] <picasso> i have a sb audigy (something or other, dell oem)
[10:24] <picasso> sound comes out the headphone jack (connected to the face of the machine), but it doesnt come out the line out in back any longer
[10:24] <maxo> anolis_: it's a shuttle pn15 wifi card, and it does work with ndiswrapper
[10:24] <maxo> I've had it working with suse
[10:24] <maxo> does hoary come with gcc?
[10:24] <picasso> i just installed ubuntu, just came from fedora 3, which sound came out both "ends" of the card
[10:24] <random_> can anyone point me in the right direction. I have the latest alsa-utils but i cannot get sound. a site says i needed the latest alsa drivers. so i dl'd them from the directory. where do i go from here?
[10:25] <syntaxerror64> picasso, perhaps the linux drivers for it don't support both outputs?  just a guess
[10:25] <picasso> syntaxerror64: you mean 2.6 drivers? it worked in fc3 (linux 2.4)
[10:25] <anolis_> cant remember if not just use apt-get
[10:26] <maxo> does ubuntu come with GCC?
[10:26] <thenuke> maxo: no
[10:26] <syntaxerror64> picasso, maybe ubuntu has different drivers?  i dunno
[10:26] <refuze2looze> maxo: no you have to install it using apt-get
[10:26] <anolis_> you have to use apt-get to get it
[10:26] <hondje> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:26] <anolis_> or the synaptics package manager
[10:26] <syntaxerror64> picasso, have you tried the ubuntu forums?
[10:27] <picasso> syntaxerror64: i got as far as registering.. :)
[10:27] <syntaxerror64> picasso, heehee, maybe someone in there has the same card as you and has already sorted the problem
[10:27] <picasso> yea i will look
[10:27] <syntaxerror64> hondje, what is nfs you said you use?
[10:27] <random_> can anyone point me in the right direction. I have the latest alsa-utils but i cannot get sound. a site says i needed the latest alsa drivers. so i dl'd them from the directory. where do i go from here?
[10:28] <hondje> syntaxerror64: Not really useful w/ windows, but it's 'network file system', I mount drives on other boxes locally over the network
[10:28] <syntaxerror64> hondje, so that's basically for sharing folders between two linux machines
[10:28] <hondje> well, kinda...it's more like sharing partitions
[10:29] <maxo> when I install gcc via apt-get, will it have to connect to the internet?
[10:29] <thenuke> maxo: yes
[10:29] <syntaxerror64> hondje, i see...
[10:29] <refuze2looze> maxo: it downloads it from the internet
[10:29] <hondje> syntaxerror64: on the plus side, it's ancient and works on any unix,  so OS X, solaris, etc
[10:29] <thenuke> why do ppl always give second answers to questions what I have already answered to :D
[10:30] <syntaxerror64> hondje, i have a mac too
[10:30] <syntaxerror64> hondje, maybe i shall try this out sometime
[10:30] <hondje> syntaxerror64: ah, cool :)
[10:30] <kvidell> thenuke: because they're trying to be helpful and sometimes having an answer told to you worded multiple ways is nice.
[10:30] <hondje> that, and lag
[10:30] <refuze2looze> thenuke: sorry, you're too fast didn't even see it =P
[10:30] <nalioth> howdy
[10:30] <nalioth> brb
[10:31] <syntaxerror64> hi nalioth
[10:31] <kvidell> It's one of the reasons I like asking questions in chatrooms. It's good to get multiple perspectives on some things.
[10:31] <maxo> ok well here's my problem: I need to compile ndiswrapper in order to install a wireless card, I'm reading http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto and it says I have to run: apt-get install build-essential fakeroot linux-headers-$(uname -r) - but if it has to download from the internet, then I'm in an impossible situation, since I won't have an internet connection at that point??
[10:31] <misfit-toy> maxo, I think it hits your ubuntu cd at that point
[10:31] <kvidell> however it is now time for me to shower.
[10:32] <maxo> misfit-toy: so it doesn't fetch from the internet?
[10:32] <misfit-toy> maxo, at that point I think not, someone correct me if I'm wrong
[10:32] <refuze2looze> maxo: no i think it does download from the internet
[10:33] <wdh> maxo, with apt-setup you can select repositories, being ftp/http or an available CD.. i think gcc is on the ubuntu cd..
[10:33] <misfit-toy> maxo, I ran that command earlier today and it asked for the cd.
[10:33] <refuze2looze> i don't think build-essential is on the CD
[10:33] <HappyFool> it is
[10:33] <maxo> ok well I hope it is :-~
[10:33] <HappyFool> not sure about fakeroot, but the other two are
[10:33] <refuze2looze> happyfool: gcc and all that are on the CD??
[10:33] <maxo> also, can I access my NTFS partition from Ubuntu?
[10:34] <mjr> maxo, read-only, yes
[10:34] <HappyFool> refuze2looze: indeed. gcc, g++ and make
[10:34] <refuze2looze> interesting..hehe
[10:34] <mjr> (read-write with captive-ntfs if you're adventurous and can hack it together)
[10:34] <wdh> HappyFool, but not the metapackage 'build-essentials' iirc
[10:34] <misfit-toy> heh
[10:34] <wdh> HappyFool, at least on warty it wasnt
[10:34] <maxo> ok well I'll install now then, and see what happens, I'm just slightly worried about ndiswrapper, but hopefully it should work
[10:34] <HappyFool> wdh: it is on hoary
[10:34] <refuze2looze> HappyFool: the first thing i did was take the cdrom source out of my sources.list so i dont know what's on the cd
[10:34] <wdh> HappyFool, ok, great
[10:34] <othernoob> how do i burn a bin and cue in k3b ?
[10:35] <HappyFool> fakeroot is there too
[10:35] <maxo> othernoob: there's a burn image option somewhere
[10:35] <wdh> othernoob, by following it's help files?
[10:35] <dave_> maxo: as long as you download the source you don't have to have an internet connection to build ndiswrapper
[10:35] <refuze2looze> othernoob:just burn image and open the cue file
[10:35] <othernoob> maxo yea but that's for iso
[10:35] <anubisds> anyone have PVR-250 experience?
[10:35] <maxo> dave_: ok, well thanks for all the help everyone
[10:35] <maxo> goodbye :-)
[10:37] <refuze2looze> othernoob: no, just select the cue file
[10:38] <anolis_> how do i get my wireless card to scan for aps
[10:38] <anolis_> for like wardriving and such?
[10:40] <nalioth> ok howdy y'all
[10:41] <syntaxerror64> hi nalioth
[10:41] <nalioth> othernoob: you can also use bchunk (long name:binchunker) to convert bin/cue to .iso image
[10:41] <nalioth> syntaxerror64: howdy
[10:42] <refuze2looze> speaking of which, any idea what i can do with a CCD/IMG/SUB cdrom image? ccd2iso doesn't work
[10:43] <nalioth> refuze2looze: it doesnt mount in the standard fashion? have you tried renaming it (i havnt a clue what type of img that is)
[10:44] <anolis_> i put iwlist eth1 scanning in and it says this eth1      Failed to read scan data : Operation not supported
[10:44] <anolis_> ???
[10:44] <refuze2looze> nalioth: it's a "CDClone" image. it's 3 files (a CCD which is kind of like CUE, IMG which is kind of like BIN, and SUB which is extra information or something)
[10:45] <siimo> hi can anyone tell me how to check my NIC address?
[10:45] <refuze2looze> nalioth: i tried using bchunk like the CCD is the CUE and IMG is BIN, didn't work.. and CCD2ISO gave some error
[10:45] <nalioth> refuze2looze: then i'm at a loss
[10:45] <LinuxJones> siimo, ifconfig -a
[10:45] <Rumbo_> ccd2iso should have worked
[10:46] <Rumbo_> ccd is not cue/bin compatible
[10:46] <refuze2looze> nalioth: i managed to run UltraISO with crossover but it is unable to burn
[10:46] <nalioth> refuze2looze: straight burnin the bin doesnt work?
[10:46] <Rumbo_> you got not access to a windows clonecd machine?
[10:46] <refuze2looze> Rumbo_: nope =/ i will in about a month or so, but for now there's 2 computers in this house both running Ubuntu
[10:47] <nalioth> refuze2looze: this is why i keep OSX on my ubuntu machine
[10:47] <siimo> thanks man
[10:47] <nalioth> refuze2looze: as much as i diss it (and it is deserving of dissin') winduhs has a place every so often
[10:47] <refuze2looze> Rumbo_: this is what ccd2iso says: Error at sector 0. The sector does not contain complete data. Sector size must be 2352, while actual data read is 789
[10:48] <refuze2looze> nalioth: why do you think OS X deserves dissing? i thought it was nice
[10:48] <Rumbo_> probably a bug in ccd2iso.. you got that ccd image from a reliable source?
[10:49] <refuze2looze> Rumbo_: well i tried another ccd also and it didn't work. besides, UltraISO found no errors in it
[10:49] <Rumbo_> refuze2looze:
[10:49] <Rumbo_> i found this on the net: http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/cdrecording/
[10:50] <syntaxerror64> anyone in here have any experience setting up a laser printer in ubuntu?
[10:50] <Rumbo_> hm they only give ccd2iso as solution too
[10:50] <refuze2looze> Rumbo_: yeah this is what gave me the idea to try using them like a bin and a cue file (after ccd2iso didnt work)
[10:50] <refuze2looze> "Burn with cdrdao and use the .img as .bin, .cdd as .cue and ignore the .sub. This may work correct."
[10:51] <refuze2looze> i hate it when people use these image files that requires some certain windows software
[10:51] <nalioth> refuze2looze: OSX doesnt get dissed by me at all
[10:52] <nalioth> refuze2looze: but win"duh"s gets my barbs alla time
[10:52] <darius___> How can I installed a .deb file .. not found in one of the repositories?
[10:52] <goldfish> darius___: dpkg -i blah.deb
[10:52] <darius___> goldfish: thx
[10:52] <goldfish> np
[10:54] <Rumbo_> refuze2looze, you can't get it in bin/cue format? ...tried usenet/bt?
[10:54] <refuze2looze> nalioth: oh. yeah.. damn i hate windows
[10:54] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd>  /msg nickserv link Th4tBa5t4rd asscock
[10:54] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> blah
[10:55] <dasameog408> hi
[10:55] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> *jedi mindtrick* you didn't see that
[10:55] <dasameog408> does ayone know any opensource online games
[10:55] <dasameog408> does ayone know any opensource online games
[10:55] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> dasameogo, What type of game?
[10:55] <refuze2looze> Rumbo_: you mean download the thing as a bin/cue? haven't found it.. i'll just wait till i get another box around here in a month or so and install windows on it
[10:55] <dasameog408> like rpg
[10:56] <refuze2looze> Th4t_Ba5t4rd: better change your password, your jedi tricks do not work here
[10:56] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> rpg aren't my bag. there are a few free mmos though
[10:56] <dasameog408> whats mmos
[10:56] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> yeah doin it now
[10:56] <dasameog408> i just want a fun one
[10:57] <dasameog408> Th4tBa5t4rd i just want a fun one i can put on my server
[10:57] <Th4tBa5t4rd> seriously, i dunno dasa...might try muds
[10:58] <dasameog408> whats a mmos?
[10:58] <gylf> dasameog408: mmo = massive multiplayer online
[10:58] <refuze2looze> massive multiplayer online game
[10:58] <dasameog408> oh thats what i want
[10:58] <dasameog408> i just want to host something my friends can play
[10:58] <dasameog408> and i can edit
[10:59] <gylf> dasameog408: there are lots of MUDs like that (text based RPGs)
[10:59] <gylf> dasameog408: or you can host your own enemy territory server (world war II FPS)
[10:59] <dasameog408> I dont want text based lol
[10:59] <dasameog408> i like adventure
[10:59] <dasameog408> or liek fantasy
[11:00] <gylf> dasameog408: check out http://happypenguin.org/
[11:00] <gylf> dasameog408: your best bet then is probably Neverwinter Nights
[11:01] <gylf> that's a D&D RPG game w/ a native linux client... its made by Bioware
[11:01] <mjr> NWN is quite a fine game, yes
[11:01] <dasameog408> can it run on windows
[11:01] <Rumbo_> neverwinter nights is great
[11:01] <Rumbo_> jez
[11:01] <Rumbo_> jes
[11:01] <refuze2looze> oh yeah, NWN
[11:01] <gylf> you can host your own adventures... yes
[11:01] <gylf> yes, there is a windows client
[11:01] <dasameog408> cool
[11:02] <dasameog408> can u edit it lmao
[11:02] <dasameog408> so i cna be good lmao
[11:02] <refuze2looze> dasameog408: you never heard of it? it's very popular, runs on windows and linux. not my cup of tea, but everybody else loves it
[11:02] <jaysinn> When someone answers a question. Do they type the name of the person asking the question? Or is there a shortcut?
[11:02] <Rumbo_> you can be a dungeon master
[11:02] <gylf> dasameog408, however, I don't think you can use the toolbuilder set in linux
[11:02] <gylf> jaysinn, no, hit tab to autocomplete
[11:02] <anatole> hi
[11:02] <jaysinn> like a shell
[11:02] <will> humm
[11:02] <gylf> right
[11:02] <anatole> i'm looking for a way to encode mp3s
[11:03] <jaysinn> cool
[11:03] <anatole> i mean, mp3 from mp3 bitrate changigng)
[11:03] <syntaxerror64> can someone tell me what CUPS is?
[11:03] <jaysinn> gylf, thanks
[11:03] <anatole> anyone knows a tool for that? i only found howtos for cd rippers
[11:03] <refuze2looze> anatole: i think LAME
[11:03] <misfit-toy> syntaxerror64, common unix printing system
[11:03] <nalioth> anatole: oggenc <laugh>
[11:04] <nalioth> syntaxerror64: Common Unix Printing System
[11:04] <syntaxerror64> misfit-toy, i am attempting to setup my laser printer in ubuntu.  there is a driver, but the margins aren't right.  i was looking over the web for help and i found something about using CUPS.
[11:04] <edgar> a
[11:05] <nalioth> syntaxerror64: there are several daemons living in your linux box, CUPS is one of them
[11:05] <jaysinn> You could learn so much, so fast here.  This rules!!!!
[11:05] <syntaxerror64> nalioth, there are several demons living in my windows box too.
[11:05] <jaysinn> endless amounts of information
[11:05] <nalioth> syntaxerror64: yes, but those are uninvited
[11:06] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> ahhh. linked up and good to go
[11:06] <misfit-toy> syntaxerror64, yeah, you can specify CUPS as the driver.
[11:07] <syntaxerror64> misfit-toy, can you tell me what advantage there is to doing this?
[11:07] <misfit-toy> syntaxerror64, CUPS is the most modern printing system available
[11:07] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> i have no clue how i "fixed" my sound issue for XMMS, but with eSound it now works without sound artifacts...system sounds are still complete crap
[11:08] <Seveas> Th4t_Ba5t4rd, well, e glad they ditched esound for breezy then :)
[11:08] <syntaxerror64> misfit-toy, do you now what a "gimp-print" driver is?  it's telling me to use that instead of the postcript driver.
[11:08] <syntaxerror64> now = know
[11:08] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> Seveas: they ditched eSound? ALSA hates my ALC
[11:08] <refuze2looze> Seveas: what will be the default sound server in breezy then?
[11:08] <misfit-toy> syntaxerror64, it's a driver specific to The Gimp
[11:09] <Seveas> refuze2looze, sofar: none
[11:09] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> *ALC850
[11:09] <Seveas> maybe there'll be polypaudio
[11:09] <jaysinn> can change my nick name?
[11:09] <refuze2looze> Seveas, once configured properly i thought esound wasn't so bad
[11:09] <Seveas> refuze2looze, i agree :)
[11:09] <syntaxerror64> misfit-toy, thanks, i found an entire site dedicated to just printing in linux so i will read there.
[11:09] <Seveas> but obviously Th4t_Ba5t4rd and esound do not agree with each other
[11:09] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> esound is working for me. if i try to use ALSA for anything i get horrid static/pops
[11:09] <Seveas> syntaxerror64, linux-printing.org?
[11:10] <refuze2looze> Seveas, didn't like esd at first either.. then i actually read the Wiki and learned how to configure it properly =)
[11:10] <Seveas> =)
[11:10] <syntaxerror64> seveas, yes that would be the one.
[11:10] <marlohn> hi
[11:10] <Seveas> ih
[11:12] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> well, next little project is to figure out how to update firefox. i hate being a newb >_<
[11:12] <Seveas> Th4t_Ba5t4rd, firefox in ubuntu is the latest version in disguise
[11:12] <lotusleaf> Th4t_Ba5t4rd, use backports
[11:12] <Seveas> it has all patches from 1.0.4 applied
[11:13] <nalioth> Th4t_Ba5t4rd: don't use backports
[11:13] <Seveas> lotusleaf, please do not advise to use backports when it is not needed...
[11:13] <kudzubane> Seveas, why isn't the version number updated, then?
[11:13] <Seveas> and since it is never needed: never advise backports :)
[11:13] <Seveas> kudzubane, there have been numerous discussions about that.
[11:13] <refuze2looze> Seveas, i think they fixed the version number to 1.0.4 already
[11:13] <jinxi> helo
[11:13] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> ahh. mine shows 1.0.2
[11:13] <[koji] > i though backports is an official project now
[11:13] <nalioth> Th4t_Ba5t4rd: put "about:config" in your URL bar and seach the result for "vendorsub" chg the number to 1.0.4
[11:13] <Seveas> Basically because the firefox developers are too lazy to maintain multiple branches :)
[11:13] <lotusleaf> Seveas, what's wrong with backports?
[11:14] <jinxi> how do I rip audio from a cd  to mp3 format?
[11:14] <Seveas> lotusleaf, well, i've seen nothing but trouble with it. But it has been improved
[11:14] <SirGir> jinxi, Use 'grip' ?
[11:14] <dooglus> I've just noticed something...  Ubuntu is absolutely fantastic!
[11:14] <nalioth> jinxi: use grip
[11:14] <Seveas> Th4t_Ba5t4rd, mine too, but it has all 1.0.4 patches applied
[11:14] <kudzubane> Seveas, i see
[11:14] <nalioth> dooglus: it's taken you this long to realize that?
[11:14] <lotusleaf> Seveas, when you say trouble, what do you mean exactly? Trojaned binaries?
[11:15] <refuze2looze> trojans for linux??
[11:15] <refuze2looze> i don't think so
[11:15] <Seveas> lotusleaf, no, upgrade hell
[11:15] <lotusleaf> refuze2looze, they do exist
[11:15] <Seveas> and horribly naming of packages
[11:15] <goldfish> refuze2looze: there can be trojanized versions of programs.
[11:15] <lotusleaf> Seveas, ah that's it? No biggie then ;)
[11:15] <Seveas> lotusleaf, and bad QA generally
[11:16] <kudzubane> as long as the security patches are applied, it matters little what the version number displayed is
[11:16] <nalioth> lotusleaf: just inablility to upgrade
[11:16] <dooglus> nalioth: when I first booted the live cd, I thought "wow", but since then, I've not really noticed how great it is.  But now I do. :)
[11:16] <kudzubane> unless, of course, it is a major version upgrade
[11:16] <Adyeths> I've seen trojans for linux already.
[11:16] <[koji] > bp will get better now that its an official ubuntu project
[11:16] <lotusleaf> Seveas, & nalioth roger that
[11:16] <refuze2looze> lotusleaf: not in the backports i wouldn't imagine
[11:16] <Seveas> [koji] , indeed
[11:17] <kudzubane> trying to see if ubuntu is a solid enough distro to try (i realize most of you think so....)
[11:17] <Seveas> [koji] , but i will still not use them for at least until breezy+1
[11:17] <Seveas> kudzubane, it is :)
[11:17] <lotusleaf> refuze2looze, nor would I, but I had to ask
[11:17] <wawa> Hi guys, anyone know of any GUI based VPN client I can use in Ubuntu?
[11:17] <kudzubane> Seveas, i have tried the last major release on an old lappy, i liked what i saw
[11:18] <TooSad> i have installed vlc and mplayer but i can't listen to a wma file. Why?
[11:18] <syntaxerror64> kudzubane, i just started using it and i like it quite a bit
[11:18] <transgress> TooSad: you need the w32codecs
[11:18] <Seveas> I just installed Hoary on a soon-to-be heavy used web/remote X/mail server, that shows my confidence in it :)
[11:18] <kudzubane> Seveas, how stable is the ubuntu ppc
[11:18] <TooSad> i have installed  w32codecs
[11:18] <TooSad> but nothing
[11:18] <Seveas> kudzubane, ENOIDEA, I don't own a PPC
[11:19] <nalioth> kudzubane: very stable
[11:19] <refuze2looze> i think nalioth uses linux on a PPC, right nalioth ?
[11:19] <SeamusLP> I'm pretty sure Linus Torvalds uses Linux on PPC.
[11:20] <kudzubane> nalioth, someone just mentioned w32codecs, how mature is the multimedia codecs and such under ppc vs. x86?
[11:20] <nalioth> kudzubane: w32codecs only run on x86
[11:20] <kudzubane> nalioth, i realize that, and hence the question
[11:20] <SeamusLP> w32codecs are binary only, meaning that you can't recompile them for a different arch
[11:20] <anatole> anyone knows how to install m4a support?
[11:20] <nalioth> kudzubane: you got most all a/v support except of course wmv3
[11:21] <nalioth> anatole: libfaac
[11:21] <kudzubane> nalioth, that is good news
[11:21] <kudzubane> nalioth, i can care less about the wmv's
[11:21] <nalioth> kudzubane: most all my pR0n, er educational videos play well on my iBook
[11:21] <Ungy> kudzubane, doesn't like good porn
[11:22] <anatole> nalioth: thx
[11:22] <maxo> well I'm on ubuntu. And wireless config was flawless. wow
[11:22] <kudzubane> nalioth, my trial machine for ubuntu ppc is an older 12in ibook
[11:22] <Ungy> someone should ban this will character\
[11:22] <kudzubane> nalioth, airport works?
[11:22] <refuze2looze> Torvald's response came quickly and succinctly. "My main machine these days is a dual 2GHz G5 (aka PowerPC 970)--it's physically a regular Apple Mac, although it obviously only runs Linux, so I don't think you can call it a Mac any more ;)" he wrote.
[11:22] <refuze2looze> so he does
[11:22] <nalioth> kudzubane: original airport
[11:23] <nalioth> kudzubane: APX still no go (but work is being done)
[11:23] <misfit-toy> first day of ubuntu here, man it's peppy! all my other boxes are fedora
[11:23] <kudzubane> nalioth, yes, original airport (802.11b) that came with my g3 ibook
[11:23] <gylf> misfit-toy, it is indeed
[11:23] <Seveas> Ungy, why ban will__ ?
[11:23] <nalioth> kudzubane: so buy the last model with orig airport, max the ram and enjoy your pet castreated power4 machine
[11:23] <nalioth> kudzubane: my G3/600 works great
[11:24] <Ungy> Seveas no will not will__
[11:24] <kudzubane> nalioth, x accelerated?  (radeon 7500 i believe)
[11:24] <mz2> the newest nvidia driver works strangely
[11:24] <Seveas> Ungy, ah, well, there is no will in here now :)
[11:24] <dooglus> guys, what is the recommended way of setting environment variables, such as "BROWSER" and "EDITOR" to set defaults?
[11:24] <mz2> it fails to work if i don't install it on every boot :)
[11:24] <nalioth> kudzubane: works great
[11:24] <Seveas> dooglus, in ~/.bashrc or ~/.gnomerc
[11:24] <nalioth> kudzubane: the only beef i've got is "sleep" (really the waking up part)
[11:25] <Seveas> mz2, have you added the modulename to /etc/modules?
[11:25] <dooglus> Seveas: I mean so that they are present to my GNOME/KDE/XFCE4/whatever
[11:25] <Amaranth> dooglus: update-alternatives
[11:25] <kudzubane> nalioth, i have same issues on the x86 with sleep and wake
[11:25] <Kinpi> i asked this in kubuntu as well, so sorry to flood, but does anyone know if it's possible to burn a cd from the live cd when you only have one cd rom?
[11:25] <Seveas> dooglus, ah...
[11:25] <Seveas> ENOCLUE then, sorry
[11:25] <nalioth> kudzubane: the PPC has such a small hardware base, everything works great (except hte new APX)
[11:25] <dooglus> Seveas: if I put it in .bash* then it will only work if I run a terminal, and run the apps from the terminal, I think
[11:25] <mz2> Seveas, haven't changed anything in configuration since the last version (that worked fine). it is in /etc/modules . X fails with "fatal io error 104" (i think it was 104)
[11:26] <kudzubane> nalioth, broadcom not cooperating, eh?
[11:26] <avinoam> anyone here using mplayer?
[11:26] <refuze2looze> Kinpi: i think not.. but try it
[11:26] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> Kinpi, i don't believe so
[11:26] <Seveas> dooglus, indeed
[11:26] <Kinpi> refuze2looze> i tried, unsuccessful heh
[11:26] <dooglus> Seveas: maybe in ~/.xinitrc?
[11:26] <Kinpi> thought maybe someone else knew something
[11:26] <refuze2looze> Kinpi: then the answer is no =P
[11:26] <mz2> could that be some udev-related issue? as said it works fine on the same bootup time when it's been installed
[11:26] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> you can with slax. i did this morning. but Slax lets you load to RAM
[11:26] <raDeon> WHO CALLED ME
[11:26] <Kinpi> refuze2looze> omar santana fan?
[11:26] <raDeon> WHAT DO YOU WANT
[11:26] <avinoam> Whenever i try to fullscreen a video in Mplayer, it doesn't actually stretch the feed
[11:26] <raDeon> SPEAK UP BOY
[11:26] <nalioth> kudzubane: you know how it is
[11:26] <raDeon> SPEAK UP
[11:26] <Seveas> dooglus, you could try :)
[11:27] <Kinpi> Th4t_Ba5t4rd> what's slax?
[11:27] <nalioth> kudzubane: the day b4 the devs reverse engineer it, bc will release the code
[11:27] <othernoob> how many partitions does ubuntu create when you choose automatic partitioning during installation ?
[11:27] <dooglus> I'll do that.
[11:27] <Ungy> Why is it all the new ubuntu users always go to debian and ask questions there
[11:27] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> Kinpi, a LiveCD version of Slackware
[11:27] <refuze2looze> Kinpi: what?
[11:27] <maxo> othernoob: 2 - a main partition and swap
[11:27] <avinoam> all is does is to make a large black frame
[11:27] <Kinpi> cool i was wondering if there was a live slack
[11:27] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> hold on a sec and i can get you a URL
[11:27] <maxo> I'm looking at /boot/grub/menu.lst but I'm slightly confused as to how to change the default boot entry?
[11:27] <Kinpi> refuze2looze> your nick is also a song/track from someone i listen to
[11:27] <kudzubane> kudzubane, sigh....
[11:27] <othernoob> maxo: so there shouldn't be any problem mounting another fat32, right ?
[11:28] <refuze2looze> Kinpi: oh.. i got it from a rap song
[11:28] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> Kinpi http://slax.linux-live.org/       you can load it to a USB key too
[11:28] <Seveas> maxo, what's the confusion?
[11:29] <Kinpi> cool, thanks Th4t_Ba5t4rd
[11:29] <Kinpi> it's not mentioned on the main slackware site is it?
[11:29] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> i don't think so
[11:30] <jinxi> this is pissing me off
[11:30] <lsuactiafner> i think there is a live cd of slack
[11:30] <jinxi> I am using grip to encode+rip
[11:30] <jinxi> and I just installed gogo
[11:30] <Ungy> why not use knoppix
[11:30] <JF6> How to install Nvu please
[11:30] <lsuactiafner> disk2
[11:30] <lsuactiafner> disk1 is install
[11:30] <jinxi> but grip still complain about gogo not beding foun
[11:30] <nalioth> JF6: there is a wiki article on it, or ubuntuguide.org
[11:30] <lsuactiafner> i could be horribly wrong
[11:30] <lsuactiafner> jinxi : use mencoder from mplayer
[11:31] <avinoam> anyone know how to truly full screen a video in mplayer? and not just make a full screen black frame?
[11:31] <JF6> i'm french....
[11:31] <lsuactiafner> just man mencoder press end and look @ the bottom of manual for examples
[11:31] <lotusleaf> freedom fries ;p
[11:31] <Seveas> JF6, then go to #ubuntu-fr
[11:31] <Ungy> lsuactiafner, why not use knoppix
[11:31] <dooglus> nope.  .xinitrc doesn't do it.
[11:31] <JF6> yes i'm in
[11:31] <JF6> :)
[11:31] <JF6> thx
[11:31] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> Slax is a slackware livecd. and it's pretty tiny under 250 megs. so it can be put on a USB key as well. also you can load the livecd to ram so that you can use the cd drive for something other than holding the distro
[11:31] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : -fs -zoom
[11:31] <lsuactiafner> -xy 2 if you must
[11:32] <Kinpi> holy crap, it's under 250?
[11:32] <lsuactiafner> slax aint official is it?
[11:32] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> yeah, a couple versions are under 100 megs
[11:32] <refuze2looze> Th4t_Ba5t4rd, are there BIOSs that support booting from a USB key?
[11:32] <avinoam> where do i enter that?
[11:32] <lotusleaf> I'm addicted to this cool game called Dungeon Crawl, or "crawl" for short.
[11:32] <nalioth> refuze2looze: yes
[11:32] <Kinpi> Ungy> i tried knoppix, wouldn't let me burn
[11:32] <refuze2looze> cool
[11:32] <goldfish> whoppix !
[11:33] <lsuactiafner> i dont get why they havent ported -vo vesa yet
[11:33] <jinxi> lsuactiafner, I can't, dependencies problem
[11:33] <Seveas> dooglus, /etc/X11/Xsession maybe
[11:33] <IcemanV9> Kinpi: slax will do the trick > www.slax.org
[11:33] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> refuze2looze there are quite a few that support booting from usb. usually listed in the bios as boot from other or boot from usb
[11:33] <Ungy> anyways just came to see why all these damned ubuntu users kept showing up in Debian
[11:33] <Ungy> take care
[11:33] <goldfish> hmmm.
[11:33] <lsuactiafner> Kinpi : i made a open-mosix single disk node before
[11:33] <lsuactiafner> the whole system = 1.399999MB
[11:33] <dooglus> Seveas: I'm just a poor user.  I can't edit global files - and anyway, that would mess up the other users...
[11:33] <lsuactiafner> worked like a charm
[11:33] <Kinpi> heh just what i wanted, to download an iso over dialup
[11:34] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> lol
[11:34] <lotusleaf> I flashed my bios with a dancing beetle ascii it was fun
[11:34] <Kinpi> whee
[11:34] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> my bios would probably let me boot from the kitchen sink, but i don't have the right cables :-/
[11:34] <lsuactiafner> was useless on its own tho, but on the cluster it rocked
[11:34] <Kinpi> rofl Th4t_Ba5t4rd
[11:34] <Kinpi> why do i see someone trying that?
[11:34] <Seveas> dooglus, ah ok. The way to go would then be putting it in a separate file and let ~/.gnomerc ~/.kderc and ~/.xfcerc all include that file
[11:34] <lsuactiafner> yeh the bios should support it, most new ones do i suppose
[11:34] <goldfish> Kinpi: they probably have :)
[11:34] <dooglus> .xfcerc, right :)  thanks!
[11:35] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> hey new refridgerators have computers inside...wouldn't be surprised if people aren't hacking them
[11:35] <refuze2looze> Th4t_Ba5t4rd,  lol.. my BIOS probably supports booting from USB too, just never looked into it =P
[11:35] <lsuactiafner> lol
[11:35] <lsuactiafner> yeh umm netbsd runs on my toaster
[11:35] <Seveas> dooglus, the filenames for xfce and kde were a mere guess
[11:35] <Kinpi> lol lsuactiafner
[11:35] <lsuactiafner> i swear..
[11:35] <lsuactiafner> you should see the uptime i can get with it
[11:36] <maxo_> ok I'm having a really weird problem - my computer keeps freezing up. I was on here a sec ago, and I had just asked a question about grub when it froze - could you tell me whether I disconnected at that point? (scroll up, it was about a minute ago)
[11:36] <Seveas> Th4t_Ba5t4rd, lol: ssh refrigerator shutdown
[11:36] <Kinpi> my hairbrush runs BSD
[11:36] <lotusleaf> lsuactiafner, a clever disguise, lucifer satan ;P
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> maxo_ : overheatin
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> or corupted memory
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> test your memory
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> it might have developed a problem
[11:36] <maxo_> lsuactiafner, apparantely when the RAM is corrupt, the computer reboots, which didn't happen
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> anagram..
[11:36] <Seveas> maxo_, are you still on warty?
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> maxo_ : freeze also..
[11:36] <jinxi> how do I rip a cd to mp3?
[11:37] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: lotusleaf i love anagrams
[11:37] <lotusleaf> lsuactiafner, are you satanist?
[11:37] <maxo_> Seveas: no, the latest ubuntu, but I also have this problem on windows
[11:37] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> corrupted ram will do lots of stuff to you
[11:37] <nalioth> jinxi: grip
[11:37] <Seveas> jinxi, soundjuicer
[11:37] <tyler_> is there a website on how to get Sambar to work with Ubuntu
[11:37] <lsuactiafner> jinxi : cdparanoia -B
[11:37] <lsuactiafner> or something
[11:37] <Seveas> maxo_, ah ok. That means a hardware problem
[11:37] <jinxi> soundjuicer does not encode it to mp3
[11:37] <lsuactiafner> there are rippers that support auto-naming
[11:37] <Kinpi> wonder why slax is so much smaller than other live cds
[11:37] <Seveas> jinxi, soundjuicer + lame then
[11:37] <maxo_> yes, which really annoys me. Because I thought it was just a driver problem with windows
[11:37] <lsuactiafner> check on freshmeat.net search ripper
[11:37] <jinxi> and grip on my box about commands I ha
[11:37] <lsuactiafner> or cdparanoia
[11:37] <lotusleaf> I want a where's waldo screensaver damnit
[11:37] <jinxi> I have lame installed
[11:37] <lsuactiafner> should list a bunch of utils
[11:37] <Seveas> Kinpi, because it does not include things like openoffice
[11:37] <jinxi> but that damn grip still complain
[11:38] <nalioth> jinxi: ya got lame and liblame onboard?
[11:38] <lsuactiafner> just do what i said.. and apt-get packages you are interested in
[11:38] <maxo_> but it could be the RAM or the graphics, or the hard disk, or the CPU... I don't know how to find out. And I don't know if Linux has logged anything
[11:38] <tyler_> how do u get Sambar to work?
[11:38] <lsuactiafner> look /var/adm/syslog
[11:38] <lsuactiafner> look in
[11:38] <Seveas> maxo_, you can test your memory with memtest86
[11:38] <lotusleaf> lsuactiafner, yeah like "apt-get install crawl" which will install dungeon crawl an insane game
[11:38] <Seveas>  /var/log/syslog that is
[11:38] <lsuactiafner> lotusleaf : www.medievia.com
[11:38] <maxo_> Seveas, how do I do that?
[11:39] <Seveas> and kern.log / emerg.log etc... are also useful
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> oh yes
[11:39] <jinxi> liblame not found!
[11:39] <jinxi> :'(
[11:39] <lsuactiafner>  /usr/adm/syslog under slackware
[11:39] <lotusleaf> lsuactiafner, what's that?
[11:39] <Seveas> maxo_, select memtest86 when booting
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> mud
[11:39] <dooglus> Seveas: .xfcerc doesn't seem to get run...
[11:39] <maxo_> Seveas: ok. Also, how can I change the default grub boot entry?
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> multi-user dungeon
[11:39] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, this is not slackware :)
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> rocks
[11:39] <nalioth> jinxi: so make it so
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> played 900 hours in 16 months
[11:39] <jinxi> nalioth, ??
[11:39] <lotusleaf> lsuactiafner, o_O
[11:39] <Seveas> maxo_, by editing /boot/grub/menu/lst
[11:39] <Seveas> maxo_, by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : heh on my pc its under /usr/adm/ but this is a hybrid
[11:39] <lotusleaf> lsuactiafner, is it ascii only?
[11:39] <maxo_> Seveas: I know, but I can't see which is the option
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> lotusleaf : colour ascii
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> but its like the matrix
[11:40] <Seveas> maxo_, the line starting with default
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> i dont see text..
[11:40] <Seveas> somewhere near the top
[11:40] <lotusleaf> lsuactiafner, I love ascii dungeon games
[11:40] <nalioth> jinxi: install liblame
[11:40] <jinxi> it is not found
[11:40] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> I <3 GuildWars
[11:40] <Seveas> jinxi, enable universe & multiverse
[11:40] <maxo_> ah ok I think I have it
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> apt-get build-dep lame ; apt-get install lame ; echo "teh shit"
[11:40] <tyler_> how do i get Sambar to work?
[11:41] <Seveas> jinxi: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:41] <ocool> hey leute
[11:41] <Seveas> tyler read the howtos on the wiki/forums
[11:41] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : make a bot to echo that link every 5 minutes
[11:41] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, you do not need build-dep if you apt-get install
[11:41] <tyler_> k
[11:41] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: better a bot with AI that can asnwer those questions automajically
[11:41] <lsuactiafner> something like 'you supple newb go read the wiki : link'
[11:42] <ocool> kann mir einer helfen ??
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> Seveas ; yeh i know but i prefer to have deps
[11:42] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> see the wiki = RTFM
[11:42] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, but you are confusing newbies this way, please do not do that
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> ocool : speak english not dutch
[11:42] <nalioth> ocool: helfen sie en #ubuntu-de
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> nee..
[11:42] <Seveas> ocool, dutch is not german
[11:42] <Seveas> lsuactiafner*
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : they should learn to be uber leet and compile packages they use most often themselves.
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> same thing (;
[11:43] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, not really
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> ek praat afrikaans van nou..
[11:43] <ocool> can you speak german??
[11:43] <refuze2looze> i think thats german not dutch
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> nee maar my taal is soos joune
[11:43] <nalioth> ocool:  i lived there for 6 years when i was young
[11:43] <Seveas> ocool, in #ubuntu-de spricht mann deutsch, hier spricht man englisch
[11:43] <hellraiser_rob> hi guys
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> lol Seveas
[11:43] <Seveas> afrikaans is leuk :)
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> no here we speak anything..
[11:43] <hellraiser_rob> i'm new to the forums, thought i'd say hi
[11:44] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> welcome hellraiser_rob
[11:44] <hellraiser_rob> ;)
[11:44] <ocool> Seveas: kannst du mit helfen??
[11:44] <Seveas> hi hellraiser_rob, this is not the forums :)
[11:44] <hellraiser_rob> i know ;)
[11:44] <ocool> wre net
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> tell me.. why aint prelink installed by default?
[11:44] <hellraiser_rob> does anyone have any issues with sound quality?
[11:44] <Seveas> ocool, vielleicht, womit brauchtst'u hilfe?
[11:44] <refuze2looze> whatsup with all the languages
[11:44] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, because prelink can cause problems
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> hellraiser_rob : not in linux..
[11:44] <Seveas> prelink is not stable enough yet
[11:45] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : like what?
[11:45] <lsuactiafner> oh..
[11:45] <lsuactiafner> heh
[11:45] <nalioth> refuze2looze: probably ubuntu-de is empty
[11:45] <lsuactiafner> i just ran prelink -a seems fine
[11:45] <Kinpi> lol you'd think people had found the second coming from the testimonials on the slax site
[11:45] <ocool> ich hab das neueste ubuntu und hab meine auflsung verstellt weiss aber nicht wie ich sie zurckstellen kann
[11:45] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> hellraiser, i had plenty of trouble with sound wuality
[11:45] <lsuactiafner> prolly going to break my system
[11:45] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, dunno exactly, there was a thread aout it on ubuntu-devel@lists
[11:45] <refuze2looze> nalioth, hehe but then lsuactiafner started speaking in afrikaans
[11:45] <ompaul> refuze2looze, what do you mean?
[11:45] <hellraiser_rob> what output is evreyone using for audio?
[11:45] <ompaul> hellraiser_rob, esd
[11:45] <lsuactiafner> hellraiser_rob : try alsa..
[11:46] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> hellraiser_rob, what is your sound card/onboard?
[11:46] <Seveas> ocool, hmm, main Deutch is nicht so gut, was meinst du mit 'auflsung'?
[11:46] <lsuactiafner> i'm so going to lose my voice again..
[11:46] <hellraiser_rob> yeah onboard
[11:46] <lsuactiafner> ek het ook nie verstaan nie..
[11:46] <maxo_> is there a repository with latest KDE bleeding edge?
[11:46] <ocool> bildschirm auflsung
[11:46] <ocool> oder monitor auflsung
[11:46] <refuze2looze> hellraiser_rob, esd, but to configure it right read the "Setting Sound up properly in GNOME" in the ubuntu wiki
[11:46] <Th4t_Ba5t4rd> which onboard soundcard, hellraider_rob?
[11:46] <Seveas> ocool, ah :)
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> try running alsaconf
[11:47] <Seveas> ocool, in das menu System -> Preferences -> Screen resolution kansst du das ndern
[11:47] <ocool> derzeit 400*600
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> but umm
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> dont listen to me
[11:47] <nalioth> ocool: if you speak any kind of english, it would help (mein deutch is schlect)
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> really..
[11:47] <hellraiser_rob> thanks for all the suggestions chaps
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> spiel mit mir...
[11:47] <hellraiser_rob> i'll go though them all
[11:47] <Seveas> nalioth, we have established that his english is just as bad :)
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> thats all i know..
[11:47] <ocool> soweit war ich auch schon aber darunter geht das leider nicht
[11:48] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, Ramms+ein?
[11:48] <nalioth> Seveas: ah
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> he wants us to take him to our leader..
[11:48] <ocool> gibt es noch eine andere mglichkeit??
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : heh yeh
[11:48] <jetscreamer> !say i am the leader
[11:48] <ubotu> jetscreamer: I don't know
[11:48] <jetscreamer> shit wrong chan
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> lol
[11:48] <Seveas> ocool, ja, mit ein kommando auf der kommandozeile: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:49] <lsuactiafner> apt-get install Seveas
[11:49] <Seveas> E: Seveas has unmet dependency Merel
[11:49] <lsuactiafner> rofl
[11:49] <ocool> thx
[11:49] <lsuactiafner> we got too much time to waste
[11:49] <lsuactiafner> i need to study
[11:49] <ocool> das probier ich jetzt mal
[11:50] <lsuactiafner>  /detach once again... bx > all
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> (;
[11:50] <maxo_> oh sorry can I ask another quick question
[11:50] <Seveas> maxo_, always :)
[11:50] <Kinpi> maxo_> absolutely not
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> maxo_ : 1 question limit/day
[11:50] <Kinpi> you must ask long drawn out questions!
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> like.. 1 only.. asking to ask also counts..
[11:50] <Kinpi> lol lsuactiafner
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> sorry..
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> policy..
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> i dont support it..
[11:51] <Seveas> haha
[11:51] <lsuactiafner> but i cant fight it..
[11:51] <maxo_> ok well I'm trying to access my ntfs partition but it'll only let me access it if I'm root. I've got this line in my /etc/fstab :
[11:51] <maxo_> /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    ro,user,noauto          0       0
[11:51] <johan_> i got trouble with drivers for my radeon, the screen is all fuzzy
[11:51] <maxo_> I also tried 'auto' instead of 'ntfs'
[11:51] <lsuactiafner> he defied me..
[11:51] <johan_> anyone got similar problem
[11:51] <lsuactiafner> bbl
[11:51] <maxo_> what is wrong with that line?
[11:52] <Seveas> change ro,noauto,user to ro,auto,user,umask=0000
[11:52] <lsuactiafner> johan_ : koop nvidia ja..
[11:52] <Kinpi> johan_> i have a similiar problem, i can't afford a radeon :( heh
[11:52] <Kinpi> lsuactiafner> looks like you have to discipline
[11:53] <lsuactiafner> johan_ : check on wiki for information.. maar koop in die vervolg nvidia
[11:53] <johan_> the screen is f* i see half the text
[11:53] <maxo_> Seveas: what does the umask thingy do?
[11:53] <johan_> i have ati
[11:53] <Seveas> maxo_, it lets you read it as normal user....
[11:53] <johan_> i need to log off its too bad
[11:53] <lsuactiafner> johan_ : running xorgconf might help... dont think you got the correct driver selected.. but thats a wild guess
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> xorgconf johan
[11:54] <johan_> brb
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> today i had fun on the internet, found a girl from my varsity and from her ip told her her name ect..
[11:54] <Kinpi> lol
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> made me look very smart..
[11:55] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, that must be new to you, lookig smart
[11:55] <lsuactiafner> fun fun.
[11:55] <Seveas> :p
[11:55] <Kinpi> we'll start collecting bail money for you
[11:55] <lsuactiafner> so now i got her number, i know she is good looking since i asked a friend in her dorm.
[11:55] <maxo_> Seveas, ok this is strange, it still won't let me access it, and it won't let me umount it either, apparantely the device is busy. but fuser isn't showing up anything
[11:55] <lsuactiafner> being a geek does pay off.
[11:55] <Kinpi> yes , yes it does
[11:55] <lsuactiafner> rofl
[11:55] <Seveas> maxo_, umount -f /dev/hda1
[11:56] <voth> sure, until your comp. outsources you.
[11:56] <Kinpi> lsuactiafner> esp when the cute girl needs her computer fixed
[11:56] <lsuactiafner> i will do community service helping ppl with linux for free..
[11:56] <lsuactiafner> yeh
[11:56] <maxo_> Seveas: yes, it still won't budge :-(
[11:56] <lsuactiafner> thats where i shouldnt install a webcam on her pc...
[11:56] <othernoob> Seveas doesn't umask=0000 allow read+write, shouldn't maxo change it to 0222 instead ?
[11:56] <Seveas> othernoob, it's ntfs, no writing possible :)
[11:56] <kudzubane> Kinpi, you know as well as i she'll never speak to you again after you fix her stuff
[11:56] <lsuactiafner> anyone here heard of the golden key society before?
[11:56] <Kinpi> kudzubane> unfortunately yes heh :(
[11:56] <Seveas> maxo_, lsof | grep /media/windows
[11:57] <Seveas> that'll show you what's keeping it busy
[11:57] <maxo_> ah ok umounted it. I was running 'umount' whilst cd in /media/windows itself oops :-~
[11:57] <Seveas> :)
[11:57] <nalioth> othernoob: writing to NTFS from linux may remove all your NTFS partition
[11:57] <Kinpi> kudzubane> that's why you fix it so something breaks in about a week
[11:57] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : grep should be prelinked.. grep is the shit
[11:57] <othernoob> nalioth: wouldn't bother me ;)
[11:57] <lsuactiafner> or
[11:57] <goldfish> 0222 is correct afaik
[11:57] <maxo_> ok cool it works :-)
[11:57] <lsuactiafner> locate notes | xargs grep text
[11:57] <maxo_> well 0000 worked
[11:57] <lsuactiafner> since i got notes all over
[11:57] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, s/locate/slocate/
[11:57] <Tyche> I just installed and when it boots up I log in, type X and it starts to load x windows but never does...what am I doing wrong?
[11:58] <Seveas> slocate is da bomb
[11:58] <lsuactiafner> seems the same?
[11:58] <nalioth> Tyche: your driver sounds suspect
[11:58] <lsuactiafner> same..
[11:58] <lsuactiafner> i think.
[11:58] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, no, not really
[11:58] <Seveas> read the manpage for differences :)
[11:59] <stars> which folder do i add a rc.firewall script to and which file do i edit to have it run on bootup?
[11:59] <lsuactiafner> i'm sentimental about locate..
[11:59] <lsuactiafner> stars : /etc/init.d/
[11:59] <lsuactiafner> make sure its chmod +x file
[11:59] <stars> thanks
[11:59] <lin_> easy question: but one I can't seem to answer. I have extreme troubles connecting my ubuntu with the internet.
[11:59] <Seveas> stars, if rc.firewall contains iptables calls, just put it somewhere and have it called from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[11:59] <Tyche> nalioth: video driver? Is there a way to reconfigure that?
[11:59] <lin_> have something to do with ipv6?
[11:59] <Kinpi> Lin_>winmodem?
[11:59] <lsuactiafner> and running a firewall @ start might not be a good idea since you might be locked out your system if its on the other side of your house without a screen.
[11:59] <Seveas> stars, or put it in /etc/init.d and run rc-update
[11:59] <lin_> no. I'm on WLAN right now
[12:00] <lin_> it is touch and go