[08:23] <mup> Bug #1918949 changed: requesting "pxelinux.cfg/default-arm-storm" causes TFTP backend to fail <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1918949>
[08:38] <mup> Bug #1924813 changed: No way to enable proposed <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1924813>
[09:23] <mup> Bug #1947899 changed: Releasing a machine which was commissioned using the MAAS 3.1 beta 3 "enlist deployed machines"  feature deletes the machine's network devices. <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1947899>
[09:23] <mup> Bug #2036883 opened: MAAS unable to deploy Virsh VM's if network is an Openvswitch network. <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036883>
[14:14] <mup> Bug #1993916 opened: ThinkSystem SR645 failed commissioning ERROR: Failed to commit `User3:Password': Invalid/Unsupported Config <MAAS:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1993916>
[17:20] <mup> Bug #2036996 opened: MAAS allows to reserve IP range which includes IPs that are in the list of Used IP addresses <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036996>
[17:26] <mup> Bug #2036996 changed: MAAS allows to reserve IP range which includes IPs that are in the list of Used IP addresses <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036996>
[17:29] <mup> Bug #2036996 opened: MAAS allows to reserve IP range which includes IPs that are in the list of Used IP addresses <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036996>
[17:32] <mup> Bug #2036996 changed: MAAS allows to reserve IP range which includes IPs that are in the list of Used IP addresses <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036996>
[17:38] <mup> Bug #2036996 opened: MAAS allows to reserve IP range which includes IPs that are in the list of Used IP addresses <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/2036996>


 @acheronuk, +1 I have no problems with this
 Sorry, I know that is way old, Telegram  promoted me with an @
 no problem. all done and dusted anyway
 Happy birthday Valorie. :)
 (Photo, 1280x366) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/e68ttotC/file_6439.jpg @valorie you need to visit!
 @tsimonq2, really? oooh. 🍰
 @ahoneybun, nice
[19:31] <valorie> thank you!
[19:31] <valorie> ahoneybun: if my son gets hired on at system76, that is for sure
[19:31] <valorie> :-)
[19:32] <valorie> you remember Thomas?
[19:37] <ahoneybun> I heard about that.
[19:37] <ahoneybun> I remember Thomas.
[19:59] <tsimonq2> Oh yeaaaaah.
[19:59] <tsimonq2> He applied?
[20:01] <valorie> yes, right in front of you
[20:01] <valorie> lol
[20:01] <valorie> if you were sitting in the booth
[20:02] <valorie> he'd be good for them IMO and they would be good for him
[20:02] <valorie> we'll see
 He applied?
[20:04] <valorie> he gave Em his CV
[20:04] <valorie> dunno if there is an application form or so
 Ah got it.
[20:08] <valorie> It would be great to have an excuse to visit Colorado again
[20:08] <valorie> and I have some friends in Denver as well
[20:12] <tsimonq2> I think I have some family in Denver.
[20:12] <tsimonq2> iirc my dad's half brother has an uncle or something there.
 You got a friend in Denver for sure valorie ;_
[20:14] <valorie> :-)
[20:14] <valorie> I mean, people besides YOU, silly!
[20:15] <valorie> so ahoneybun, did I hear you are coming to SeaGL?
[20:15] <valorie> now that I've recovered from LFNW
 Speaking of LFNW, I needed to take the day off of school today to just sleeeeeep all day.


[15:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Is there a reason why we're *still* using xscreensaver?
[15:13] <cfhowlett> ditto for xchat
[15:13] <SonikkuAmerica> ?!
[15:13] <cfhowlett> I imagine because they're still in the upstream xubuntu.
[15:13] <SonikkuAmerica> xscreensaver isn't
[15:13] <SonikkuAmerica> They've been using light-locker since 14.10
[15:13] <cfhowlett> It was in 14.04
[15:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Thanks for the correction
[15:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Can we get that in the feature requests someplace?
[15:14] <SonikkuAmerica> (at least the light-locker one anyway)
[15:14] <cfhowlett> probably have to direct it towards xubuntu team
[15:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Heh
[15:15] <SonikkuAmerica> How much is the Xubuntu team involved? Right down to the minute details, and we add our music stuff to it?
[15:16] <cfhowlett> SonikkuAmerica, well, xubuntu is the base for ubuntustudio.  I believe the US team takes the xubuntu release and turns the elves lose to make US
[15:17] <SonikkuAmerica> (If that's the case, why are we not using Whisker Menu? lol)
[15:18] <cfhowlett> It's clearly an imperfect process.  Here's an even more face-to-keyboard fact ...
[15:18] <SonikkuAmerica> uh-oh...
[15:19] <cfhowlett> wubi is unsupported and is KNOWN and CONFIRMED to break ubuntu after 13.10 so WHY THE )()(*)(*&B is wubi still included in ubuntu .iso!?   /rant-ended
[15:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Ohhhhh boy
[15:35] <paranoia68> hi anayone can help me?
[15:36] <cfhowlett> !ask | paranoia68
[15:38] <paranoia68> i have no sound problems in ardour on linux mint 17.2 mate 64bit. I want to connect my keyboard but get no sound and the meter is going up! You know master sound indication, so there is input in ardour but nothing comes out of my speakers?
[15:38] <cfhowlett> !mint | paranoia68


[10:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:46] <Pollywog> stittel: yes I used that to install Edgy
[10:46] <stittel> Pollywog: Never used the Desktop LiveCD thingy though. I am afraid of installations that involve GUI and such.
[10:46] <Pollywog> but it is being infelxible today
[10:46] <pascal> stittel, allright.. Just thought it was cool :-)
[10:46] <ar53n> MIdMark : 2 sec
[10:46] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  the server is 'free' but still not "Free" :)
[10:47] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  you need to reg. get serial# ect...
[10:47] <MidMark> I'm watching tv from my kubuntu I have all the time till I go to bed
[10:47] <tan> stittel: I get this: /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/apt/__init__.py:17: FutureWarning: apt API not stable yet
[10:47] <Pollywog> oic
[10:47] <stittel> Pollywog: Free as in beer, not free as in speech, dr_willis seems to mean.
[10:47] <ar53n> MidMark : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19515/
[10:47] <Pollywog> I understood his meaning
[10:47] <dr_willis> stittel,  most people dont comprenehd the beer/free analogy either. :)
[10:47] <Pollywog> maybe server won't run on this machine
[10:47] <stittel> tan: This error turns up right when update-manager fails? Or before?
[10:48] <tan> stittel: before
[10:48] <Pollywog> there has to be a catch
[10:48] <stittel> tan: Ok, don't worry. No output when things go bad?
[10:48] <dr_willis> Vmware wanted to get a bigger user base, so they released a free version for the hobbiest/little people :)
[10:48] <ar53n> MidMark : so , what do you think ? ^^
[10:48] <alexicon> hi guys
[10:48] <Pollywog> oic
[10:48] <dr_willis> and hope that that will result in more sales of their higherend tools.
[10:48] <alexicon> so i juist upgraded my desktop to feisty
[10:48] <alexicon> pretty cool
[10:49] <alexicon> so is universe and multiverse in there by default now?
[10:49] <dr_willis> vmware is nice, virtualbox is also similer. and worth trying out.
[10:49] <tan> stittel: yes, sorry: IOError: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory: '/tmp/tmpzW_K0X/edgy.tar.gz'
[10:49] <dr_willis> alexicon,  ive noticed that when you do some 'things' it will ask then incliude them
[10:49] <alexicon> ah
[10:49] <dr_willis> alexicon,  like playing a video file and so forth.
[10:49] <MidMark> ar53n: I said this -> [22:37]  <MidMark> and launch it from konsole from the dir where you put the file: ./winetricks fakeie6
[10:49] <stittel> tan: This is an interesting error.
[10:49] <Pollywog> is there a way to know for sure that I have the alternate install cd?
[10:49] <alexicon> im well happy with the nvidia support in that restricted drivers module
[10:49] <Pollywog> I do not see LIVE in it
[10:49] <alexicon> that was the most painless yet
[10:50] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  if it boots and dont go to a Desktop/Gui - and is all text.. its the alt install. :)
[10:50] <tan> stittel: I get some other warning at the beginning...
[10:50] <stittel> tan: Yes, those warnings are not so important I think.
[10:50] <stittel> tan: Have a look at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/67066
[10:51] <Pollywog> dr_willis: I think I should download a new image, unless I can find another CD that is labelled "alternate install"
[10:51] <tan> stittel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19516/
[10:51] <tan> stittel: ok, looking :)
[10:51] <ar53n> MidMark : okay installation done
[10:51] <ar53n> MidMark : but steam still doesnt work lawl
[10:52] <sound_fx> Hello, I am trying to get my dual-head setup running, I am using ATI config, and I have entered the commands for my monitors at the login screen the desktop is set up right, but when I log in to my user, the secondary screen is just cloned.
[10:52] <chump> hi
[10:52] <MidMark> ar53n: same error?
[10:52] <ar53n> MidMark : Yes
[10:52] <frojnd> so vmware is free... how can I install xp via vmware??
[10:52] <tan> stittel: yes, it's the same error/scenario, but no solution... :(
[10:52] <stittel> tan: Yes, just see that myself.
[10:52] <stittel> Hm..
[10:53] <MidMark> ar53n: try these instructions, I cannot help so much because I don't have steam
[10:53] <chump> is there something wrong with the kubuntu 7.04 torrent ? because i always get like .. 240 failed chunk
[10:53] <MidMark> ar53n: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554
[10:53] <stittel> tan: Have you tried the CD update method?
[10:53] <tan> stittel: should I try the manual method, or not?
[10:53] <stittel> tan: Try the CD update method before.
[10:53] <sound_fx> Is there some sort of user preference that overrides the xorg.conf file?
[10:53] <tan> stittel: nope, didn't know it existed... :P
[10:53] <ar53n> ok thx
[10:53] <stittel> tan: "apt-get distupgrade" is not so great.
[10:53] <ar53n> MidMark : thanx ill be back later ^^
[10:54] <tan> stittel: ok, thanks for your help! I'll try the CD update method :-)
[10:54] <Dhraakellian> Greetings, Froggy
[10:54] <stittel> tan: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#head-0aee739ab0dfe9702a69ee3d316f5926d5d31807
[10:54] <FroggyTheGreat> I just installed kdelibs off the Adept Package Manager, and my system was completely borked.
[10:55] <Cnl_Delta> hi, which is preferable on kubuntu, xgl or aiglx
[10:55] <MidMark> ar53n: http://appdb.winehq.org/commentview.php?iAppId=1163&iVersionId=1554&iThreadId=10035
[10:55] <FroggyTheGreat> Which is to say, I'd try to back the changes out, but the pacakge manager doesn't run anymore.
[10:55] <mahdi> cnl_dleta: what is your video chipset? thats more important.
[10:55] <MidMark> ar53n: the problem is the one I told you before: you MUST run the steam file from its directory and not outside
[10:55] <lnxkde> guys, I used to connect my LCD monitor with the VGA cable to the VGA of my card now I installed it with the DVI one and the video wont show up. I re configured the nvidia driver and nothing. Do I have to make changes in the Xorg.conf to get it to show up on the DVI head?
[10:55] <lnxkde> It works with the nv driver but when I use the nvidia driver It wont work.
[10:55] <Cnl_Delta> nvidia 7600 gs
[10:55] <Pollywog> I have that card too
[10:55] <mahdi> cnl+delta: aiglx
[10:55] <Cnl_Delta> hmm
[10:55] <tan> stittel: thank you! :D
[10:55] <FroggyTheGreat> Anyone have any ideas where I could even start?
[10:56] <ar53n> MidMark : what do you mean from its directory?
[10:56] <Cnl_Delta> k now to find a guide to get aiglx working in kubuntu
[10:56] <MidMark> ar53n: open console
[10:56] <Pollywog> what is aiglx?
[10:56] <ar53n> MidMark : ok
[10:56] <Dhraakellian> Froggy's apt-get is still there, and I think I suggested trying to reinstall kubuntu-desktop to see if that fixed things, but that might've failed for some reason.  FroggyTheGreat, am I remembering correctly?
[10:56] <Cnl_Delta> and ati works best with xgl or nvidia 8000s?
[10:56] <Pollywog> because I have the same card
[10:56] <MidMark> then type: cd <directory where you have steam installed>
[10:56] <sound_fx> When I log in, my desktop doesn't reflect the xorg.conf settings as I have them set up. The desktop looks fine on the login page.
[10:56] <Cnl_Delta> Pol
[10:56] <Pollywog> 7600GS
[10:56] <MidMark> then type: wine Steam.exe
[10:56] <Cnl_Delta> Pollywog: 3d for desktop
[10:56] <ar53n> ok sec sec
[10:56] <FroggyTheGreat> Dhraak, yes you are.
[10:56] <Pollywog> oic
[10:56] <mahdi> cnl_delta: check ubuntuguide.org, always a good first stop
[10:57] <Pollywog> !aiglx
[10:57] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[10:57] <frojnd> how do I check if driveres for nvidia are running??
[10:57] <Pollywog> frojnd sudo lsmod | grep nvidia
[10:58] <ar53n> to go to the directory i type cd ar53n/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam
[10:58] <FroggyTheGreat> And my add/remove programs link is missing.  What's the command to run it?
[10:58] <ar53n> But it doesnt work
[10:58] <frojnd> nvidia               6837140  22agpgart                35400  2 nvidia,amd64_agpi2c_core               22784  3 i2c_ec,nvidia,i2c_nforce2
[10:58] <frojnd> does that mean that it's running?
[10:58] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: adept_installer, iirc. but that's just me trying to remember from when I was over there yesterday
[10:58] <irvken> I'm trying to fix my driver probelm, but all the howtos refer to the menu path System --> Administration which I don't appaer to have
[10:59] <Dhraakellian> and you had that lock problem anyway
[10:59] <Pollywog> looks as though the driver is loaded
[10:59] <Dhraakellian> where is the apt lock file?
[10:59] <FroggyTheGreat> And the Control Center doesn't load either.  Holy crap.
[10:59] <Pollywog> you have an nvidia mobo too?
[10:59] <jetpig> here's an odd qustion:  i can't add splah screens in kde.  i browse to the folder where i've got the splash screen saed and it won't see the theme.rc file.  any ideas?
[11:00] <onlineapps> hey
[11:00] <onlineapps> im running feisty, and I can't always get sound to work
[11:00] <MidMark> cd .wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam
[11:00] <onlineapps> I think the reason is that /dev/dsp is locked
[11:00] <FroggyTheGreat> Question - What is nte command to run the package manager?
[11:01] <MidMark> ar53n: why you cannot understand how it works?
[11:01] <ejupin> anyone know how I can get a usb mic to work??
[11:01] <ar53n> MidMark i guess thats just 2 much for my brain in 1 day
[11:01] <onlineapps> I changed its permisions to let my account (andrew) use it but it reverts after a reboot
[11:01] <FroggyTheGreat> What is "the" command to run the package manager, sorry.
[11:01] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: run sudo adept-manager
[11:01] <FroggyTheGreat> thank you.
[11:01] <Cnl_Delta> sudo aptitude FroggyTheGreat
[11:02] <ar53n> MidMark it says repertory or file of this kind
[11:02] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat, no not adept-manager
[11:02] <onlineapps> my bad
[11:02] <robin_> #kubuntu-fr
[11:02] <onlineapps> adept_manager
[11:02] <FroggyTheGreat> "could not run the specified command"
[11:02] <Cnl_Delta> sudo aptitude update/install program_name
[11:02] <MidMark> ar53n: sorry type -> cd /home/ar53n/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Steam
[11:02] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: adept_manager being the gui and aptitude being a text-based one
[11:02] <irvken> Open the restricted drivers manager included in 7.04 "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver".
[11:02] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: sorry, its adept_manager
[11:03] <irvken> but there is no administartion entry in my System menu
[11:03] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: well, sudo adept_manager
[11:03] <FroggyTheGreat> sudo: adept_manager: command not found
[11:03] <lespea> !
[11:03] <ar53n> MidMark : good news it work
[11:03] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok.  Um.
[11:03] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: do you have adept?
[11:03] <FroggyTheGreat> I do, yes.  It doesn't run now though,.
[11:04] <ar53n> MidMark : sorry if im so ... like.... heum newb n stuff =/
[11:04] <lespea> sudo aptitude install adept
[11:04] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: try adept_installer
[11:04] <FroggyTheGreat> not found
[11:04] <Dhraakellian> Froggy's story as I understand it: while trying to find the right packages to install so that kirocker could be compiled, kdelibs got (re)installed, and restarts and such, well, didn't go smoothly
[11:05] <FroggyTheGreat> Dhraak is correct
[11:05] <Pollywog> vmware installed but it complains it cannot start the EULA, so I think the alien command did not work, I will need to use the tarball
[11:05] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: then you could just use adept
[11:05] <FroggyTheGreat> But adept doesn't want to run.
[11:05] <ardchoille> How do I stop kbluetoothd from starting when I log into kde?
[11:05] <onlineapps> or try installing synaptic
[11:05] <onlineapps> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[11:05] <onlineapps> it works just as well
[11:05] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: define "doesn't run"
[11:06] <Dhraakellian> since I seem to remember you saying something about a lock file
[11:06] <MidMark> ar53n: oh my god! The light!
[11:06] <MidMark> :P
[11:06] <FroggyTheGreat> From the k-menu, it thinks about it for a bit (I get the cursor and the taskbar entry) and then it just...goes away.
[11:06] <ar53n> FINALLY
[11:06] <FroggyTheGreat> From the command line: "command not found"
[11:06] <ar53n> D[11:06] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: I think you may have uninstalled adept by accident
[11:06] <Dhraakellian> apt-get install adept?
[11:06] <onlineapps> have you tried installing it by using apt-get?
[11:06] <ar53n> Now it just says that my password is bad r smtin lol
[11:06] <telemako> hello
[11:06] <onlineapps> or aptitude?
[11:06] <FroggyTheGreat> <-- Linux newb, by the way.
[11:07] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: open Konsole, type in (without quotes) "sudo aptitude install adept"
[11:07] <onlineapps> and hit enter
[11:07] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: Join us, and we shall rule the world, father and son, and brother, and uncle, and...
[11:07] <Pollywog> and pollywog?
[11:07] <FroggyTheGreat> I just started it with apt-get.
[11:07] <FroggyTheGreat> Looks like it's doing something.
[11:07] <telemako> just installed festy cd-rom, KNetworkManager does not connect to my wifi, but I made it manually, the problem is that I can surf webs with Konkeror, and apt-get update freezes at half, can't reach some servers, any help?
[11:08] <FroggyTheGreat> adept
[11:08] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: that's fine, its ok
[11:08] <FroggyTheGreat> Whoops
[11:08] <FroggyTheGreat> Looks like it installed.
[11:08] <Dhraakellian> yay!
[11:08] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: now try running adept_manager
[11:08] <Pollywog> now see if it croaks
[11:08] <telemako> can anyone tellme a short sources.list ?
[11:09] <FroggyTheGreat> It's running....and looks like it's running correctly.
[11:09] <ar53n> MidMarks : works great , lets install css DUDE U FUCKIN ROCK OMFG
[11:09] <ar53n> MidMark : you should work for ubuntu lol
[11:09] <Pollywog> !ohmy
[11:09] <telemako> does anyone read me? -_-
[11:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:09] <Dhraakellian> Pollywog: the missing backstory is that I'm froggy's brother in a family of geeks
[11:09] <Pollywog> oic
[11:10] <onlineapps> hey, anyone know why my /dev/dsp isn't letting me access it?
[11:10] <FroggyTheGreat> And my job let me telecommunte and therefore I /had/ to use their OS.
[11:10] <Pollywog> oic
[11:10] <MidMark> ar53n: good
[11:10] <FroggyTheGreat> So Adept is running now.  How should I go about backing out my changes?
[11:10] <FroggyTheGreat> Or is it borked and I need to reinstall stuff?
[11:10] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: just out of curiosity, what version of kdelibs do you have installed?
[11:10] <telemako> Please, I need a sources.list for apt with the shorter possible, can anyone help me?
[11:11] <FroggyTheGreat> Adept says I don'
[11:11] <FroggyTheGreat> t have kdelibs installed.
[11:11] <FroggyTheGreat> Um.
[11:11] <Dhraakellian> hmm
[11:11] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: maybe you should install kdelibs
[11:11] <FroggyTheGreat> How about I do that...
[11:11] <jetpig> hey i can't add splash screens to ksplash
[11:11] <FroggyTheGreat> Doing so now.  We'll see how it goes.
[11:11] <jetpig> i browse to the folder where i have it saved
[11:12] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: and remember the preview button
[11:12] <jetpig> and it doesn't list the theme.rc file to add it
[11:12] <Dhraakellian> I'm guessing that you uninstalled kdelibs instead of installing it
[11:12] <FroggyTheGreat> Adept crashed.
[11:12] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: open Konsole, and type in "sudo aptitude install kdelibs"
[11:13] <FroggyTheGreat> Aaaaand: bash: adept-manager: command not found
[11:13] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: don't use adept anymore, try sudo aptitude install kdelibs
[11:13] <Dhraakellian> or would aptitude show the preview automatically?
[11:13] <Tm_T> hi Dhraakellian
[11:14] <onlineapps> Dhraakellian: I think aptitude shows preview automatically
[11:14] <FroggyTheGreat> onlineapps - I did that, no packagages inbstalled, upgraded, or removed.
[11:14] <Dhraakellian> okay
[11:14] <onlineapps> hmm
[11:14] <Dhraakellian> Tm_T: from where do I know you?
[11:14] <onlineapps> maybe a reinstall?
[11:14] <onlineapps> of kdelibs?
[11:14] <Dhraakellian> #amarok?
[11:14] <onlineapps> or not
[11:14] <onlineapps> idk
[11:14] <FroggyTheGreat> Reinstall with what method?
[11:15] <onlineapps> not really sure
[11:15] <onlineapps> you could try running sudo aptitude remove kdelibs and then sudo aptitude install kdelibs, but that might mess you up
[11:15] <onlineapps> idk
[11:15] <Dhraakellian> worth a shot, perhaps
[11:15] <Tm_T> Dhraakellian: I wonder in how many times you or someone with similar nick I have been talking to in kde-related channels in past two years
[11:15] <onlineapps> you could also do what I just do every time I have a problem: reinstalling via disk
[11:16] <Dhraakellian> ah, right
[11:16] <Dhraakellian> Tm_T: your nick looks familiar, but it also looks similar to someone from another network
[11:16] <Tm_T> heh
[11:16] <Dhraakellian> which is why I asked
[11:16] <Dhraakellian> (a certain TMT)
[11:16] <Tm_T> aww, he's cheap copy!
[11:17] <Dhraakellian> anyway...
[11:17] <FroggyTheGreat> Um.
[11:17] <Dhraakellian> onlineapps: how safe is that?  any risk of overwriting /home?
[11:17] <FroggyTheGreat> I really hate to think I could have borked my system enough to require a CD reinstall by just using the package manager...
[11:18] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: I doubt its that bad
[11:18] <FroggyTheGreat> I have no idea what I'm doing.  I'm sure, given another couple months with this, I'd be able to fix it instinctively.
[11:18] <Pollywog> that is why I use apt-get
[11:18] <onlineapps> have you done some googling for the problem?
[11:19] <Pollywog> I am afraid of the gui breaking stuff
[11:19] <khazz> hi all
[11:20] <khazz> i got problem with the internet connection
[11:20] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok, Got adept_manager running again, and it says that kdelibs are installed.
[11:20] <khazz> anyone know how to troubleshoot?
[11:20] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: try a reboot
[11:20] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: any problems elsewhere?
[11:20] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: I'll call you if you're not back in 15 minutes or so
[11:21] <FroggyTheGreat> Restart KDE enough, or a full reboot?
[11:21] <Dhraakellian> on IM, at least
[11:21] <onlineapps> FroggyTheGreat: full reboot
[11:21] <FroggyTheGreat> brb.
[11:21] <Dhraakellian> I'd think restarting X11/KDE would be enough, but a full reboot can't hurt
[11:21] <Dhraakellian> (much?)
[11:22] <Dhraakellian> noooo... mass exodus starting?
[11:22] <Dhraakellian> oh, that was a join there
[11:24] <jetpig> anyone heard of my problem?
[11:24] <ar53n> what ur problem jetpig?
[11:25] <FroggyTheGreat> Aaright.  Rebooted, and the problem is still there in all its manifestations
[11:25] <jetpig> i can't get ksplash to load up any new themes
[11:25] <ar53n> i dont know whats ksplash sorry
[11:25] <jetpig> i browse to where i've untarred them and the browser wont' see the theme.rc file
[11:25] <ar53n> ask google
[11:25] <ar53n> =(
[11:26] <ar53n> ive installed linux yesterday so...
[11:26] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: did you say that (re)installing kubuntu-desktop didn't show any changes?
[11:26] <FroggyTheGreat> Holy crap, it can't find Konquerer either.
[11:26] <jetpig> *chuckle*
[11:26] <spitwise> .
[11:26] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: firefox?
[11:26] <FroggyTheGreat> Um.  More and more I'm thinking I need to reinstall KDE
[11:26] <ar53n> Does anyone know where i can find some driver for my G7? or a place where i can slow down the sensitivity
[11:26] <Dhraakellian> mozilla-firefox?
[11:26] <FroggyTheGreat> Firefox works.
[11:26] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: yeah, that'd probably be the way to go
[11:26] <FroggyTheGreat> Heh.
[11:26] <FroggyTheGreat> How do I go about doing that?
[11:26] <FroggyTheGreat> <-- ack
[11:27] <Dhraakellian> What is Kubuntu's KDE meta-package named?
[11:27] <Dhraakellian> How does one go about (re)installing KDE?
[11:28] <ar53n> lespea u there?
[11:29] <tarelerulz> I am installing java from sun with adept  and I have licene and I read it ,but I don't know what to do next my install has stoped
[11:30] <ar53n> tarelerulz : once ur install is finished
[11:30] <ar53n> tarelerulz : you click on apply change
[11:30] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: does "sudo aptitude install kde" show any changes?
[11:30] <jovans> have anybody appamor runs under feisty?
[11:31] <Dhraakellian> I'm guessing for package names here, so if someone else wants to help out...
[11:31] <ar53n> What package name?
[11:31] <tarelerulz> I found the package and then I did apply change and It download the package and when I pushed details
[11:31] <tarelerulz> I see the licence
[11:31] <FroggyTheGreat> Dhraakellian - Can't find the module.
[11:31] <tarelerulz> It says something about package configure
[11:31] <ar53n> tarelerulz : you're done ur program is installed
[11:32] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: kde-meta? kde-desktop? kubuntu-desktop?   Does anyone here know offhand the meta-package to reinstall KDE?
[11:32] <tarelerulz> if it is done why does it not go back to the main menu
[11:32] <olafski> hello, I'm installing kubuntu and I'm just wondering what the (hd0) means, where grub is installed.. how can I find out exactly which drive that is?
[11:33] <Dhraakellian> olafski: same things as hda, I think
[11:33] <FroggyTheGreat> It's a hard drive partition
[11:33] <olafski> hmm.. but I have a hda and hdb, and I don't want grub on those two
[11:33] <Dhraakellian> first drive, I think there'd need to be more info attached to that to determine which partition it means
[11:33] <tarelerulz> I found what I was doing wrong . I am not familar with installing sun java with adept
[11:33] <Pollywog> dang I entered the correct vmware serial but it did not work
[11:33] <olafski> I'm installing it on sda and as such would prefer grub to be on that drive
[11:34] <Dhraakellian> olafski: I think hd0 would be hda
[11:34] <Dhraakellian> iirc
[11:34] <ar53n> does anyone know a good driver or prog i could download for my G7?
[11:34] <FroggyTheGreat> Ahain - Does anyone know how to uninstall and reinstall KDE?
[11:34] <ar53n> Its going 2 fast
[11:34] <FroggyTheGreat> ahain=again, sorry.
[11:34] <sdlnxgk> Ok did something very wrong.... moved a folder containing all my downloads and now it's gone how can I get them back???
[11:35] <ar53n> ...
[11:35] <ar53n> trash?
[11:37] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: doesnt sound good, but I think "sudo apt-get --remove kubuntu-desktop" then "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:37] <tarelerulz> I can't install firefox .
[11:37] <Stardog> so... I have a picture that I want as kmenu icon... how do i do that in fiesty?
[11:37] <FroggyTheGreat> bonbonthejon - thank you.
[11:38] <benjamin> hi, I did install compiz/beryl on a dell/nvida notebook. If I start the beryl-manger the windows-borders disapear . . anyone an idea whats missing?
[11:38] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: sorry, first command is "sudo apt-get --purge remove kubuntu-desktop"
[11:39] <FroggyTheGreat> Thank you.
[11:39] <bonbonthejon> !beryl | benjamin
[11:39] <ubotu> benjamin: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:40] <FroggyTheGreat> IT WORKED!
[11:40] <FroggyTheGreat> THANK YOU
[11:40] <bonbonthejon> tarelerulz: how did you try to install it
[11:40] <Dhraakellian> Yay!
[11:40] <Dhraakellian> Now!  back to the *original* problem
[11:40] <FroggyTheGreat> Gonna restart X11, brb.
[11:40] <Dhraakellian> what is needed for Froggy to install/compile Kirocker?
[11:41] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: kicker?
[11:41] <Dhraakellian> bonbonthejon: kirocker.  It's a kicker applet that interacts with amarok
[11:41] <SubOne> Why does my router show my laptops host name but not my desktop?
[11:41] <Dhraakellian> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=52869
[11:42] <sdlnxgk> ar53n, tried looking there it's not there
[11:42] <sdlnxgk> ar53n, I think it would be too big for trash
[11:42] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: dowload the source and compile
[11:42] <sdlnxgk> gonna  try to use mc and file recovery
[11:42] <sdlnxgk> anyone know of any good file recovery programs
[11:42] <Dhraakellian> bonbonthejon: yeah, but what would he need in order to compile it?
[11:43] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: build-essential is the package
[11:43] <Dhraakellian> I'll pass that on
[11:43] <Dhraakellian> bonbonthejon: any -dev packages?
[11:43] <Dhraakellian> qt-dev, kde -devs?
[11:43] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: depends on the package
[11:44] <SubOne> Does anyone know why my router show my laptop's host name but not my desktop hostname?
[11:44] <Dhraakellian> bonbonthejon: so, in other words, install build-essential and then see what ./configure complains about?
[11:45] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: yeah, build-essential is the compiler, it depends on what the software needs
[11:45] <OptimusRex> I need to delete the partition I installed kubuntu on from the live cd. Can anyone help
[11:45] <Cnl_Delta> hi which country sources get update first. seems india lags behind the uk repos
[11:46] <gan|y|med> hi
[11:46] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: there should be a partition manager
[11:46] <OptimusRex> where?
[11:46] <tarelerulz>  bonbonthejon I install firefox , its java plugin.
[11:46] <gan|y|med> how can convince my opera browser to open rfd files (rss feeds) akregator?
[11:46] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: the installer has one
[11:46] <bonbonthejon> !java | tarelerulz
[11:46] <ubotu> tarelerulz: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:46] <tarelerulz> The fun part is I can't run firefox and I don't evern get an error it just don't come up
[11:47] <bonbonthejon> tarelerulz: did you install from the repositories
[11:47] <OptimusRex> tried that but it seems it does not delete the partition since when i try to boot from the hard disk it still picks the old kubuntu
[11:47] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: then you can use the command line fdisk
[11:47] <OptimusRex> I need it to stop doing that and boot from the windows on the other partition
[11:47] <tarelerulz> I did instlall jave and firefox with my upgraded kubuntu 7.04
[11:47] <OptimusRex> tell me about the fdisk
[11:47] <gan|y|med> tarelerulz: i just came in here, but have you tried it in a console?
[11:48] <bonbonthejon> !fdisl
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <OptimusRex> how do i fdisk
[11:48] <bonbonthejon> !fdisk
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <Dhraakellian> fd, Froggy
[11:48] <Dhraakellian> how goes?
[11:48] <flattersr> to fdisk you need to go into msdos
[11:48] <flattersr> and look for fdisk
[11:49] <bonbonthejon> flattersr: no, there is one for linux
[11:49] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: open konsole, and run "sudo fdisk -l
[11:49] <FroggyTheGreat> And now KDE is running (I think) perfectly, and kubuntu-desktop is not installed.  Is that normal?
[11:50] <FroggyTheGreat> Sorry, missed the first line there - I did an uninstall purge of kubuntu desktop from a non-graphical login.
[11:50] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: kubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, so, even if it's not 'normal', I think it's okay
[11:50] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: yeah, kubuntu-desktop installs a lot of software, but if you dont use it, you can remove it
[11:50] <FroggyTheGreat> What will I "get" if I reinstall it?
[11:50] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: all the software that comes when you do a fresh install
[11:50] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: if you remove something that kubuntu-desktop requires, you can just remove it also
[11:51] <OptimusRex> sudo fdisk -l is done and there are a number of devices. How do I delete?
[11:51] <tarelerulz> gan|y|med , I have run firefox from xterm and I don't get any error or anything
[11:51] <Dhraakellian> OptimusRex: cfdisk might be easier
[11:51] <Dhraakellian> the 'c' stands for "curses", if I'm not mistaken
[11:52] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok.  Now the original original question - what packages do I need to compile/install Kirocker?
[11:52] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: didnt know about cfdisk, and it is a curses program
[11:52] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: install build-essential
[11:52] <OptimusRex> fatal error: Cannot open disk drive. press any key to exit
[11:52] <Dhraakellian> still a good idea to be careful with fdisk-like things, no matter whether they're GUI, strictly cli, or text-based GUI
[11:52] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: run "sudo cfdisk"
[11:53] <tarelerulz> This may sound dumb ,but where does konqueror default download files to?
[11:53] <bonbonthejon> tarelerulz: your home directory, i believe
[11:53] <OptimusRex> I have fatal error: Bad logical partition 6: enlarged logical partitions. Press any key to exit cfdisk
[11:54] <FroggyTheGreat> Got build-essentials installed.  Dhraak, do you still have the link?
[11:54] <OptimusRex> have sda2, sda5, sda6 and sda7 under sudo fdisk
[11:54] <OptimusRex> what's my next move?
[11:54] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: to kirocker?  http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=52869
[11:54] <Dhraakellian> but don't you already have it downloaded?
[11:54] <tarelerulz> I don't see it in my home directory
[11:54] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: download the source and extract it
[11:55] <Pollywog> vmware server will not compile the modules but it seems workstation does
[11:55] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: pick the partition you want to delete
[11:55] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: download the source and extract it
[11:55] <Dhraakellian> !;)
[11:55] <tarelerulz> I have had nothing ,but trouble with this install. I could not update it easy and I think a lot of my packages are broken too.
[11:55] <bonbonthejon> Dhraakellian: sorry
[11:55] <mefisto__> I've just installed beryl, got it working ok, except that I can't log in with a beryl session automatically. (I followed this ubuntu-specific howto: http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon_p3?s=dcb9b68c0d600ab82be00f19d334f2d2&)
[11:55] <Pollywog> anyone else having trouble getting the server to work?
[11:55] <Pollywog> vmware server
[11:56] <Pollywog> oh I forgot
[11:56] <Pollywog> !vmware | pollywog
[11:56] <bonbonthejon> tarelerulz: you might be better backing up and reinstalling
[11:56] <OptimusRex> how do I delete partitions from fdisk
[11:56] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: fdisk or cfdisk
[11:56] <OptimusRex> prefer fdisk
[11:57] <OptimusRex> it's showing the partitions
[11:57] <OptimusRex> how do I proceed and delete some partitions
[11:57] <tarelerulz> I mean when I had kubuntu 6.10 it had problems.  It seem to have the same problems when I upgraded to 7.04.
[11:57] <Dhraakellian> bonbonthejon: np
[11:58] <OptimusRex> what happened?
[11:58] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: command d, deletes a partition
[11:58] <OptimusRex> how do I specify which partition
[11:58] <OptimusRex> and do I say sudo d?
[11:58] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: enter the d command, then it should ask which you want to delete
[11:59] <gan|y|med> so any opera users here, that might give me a clue why opera does not open rfd with akregator, though rfd files have been added as mimtype?
[11:59] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: no, when you are in "sudo fdisk DEVICE", then do l to list, then d to delete
[12:00] <GrueTamer> cfdisk is easier for new users to use than fdisk :P
[12:00] <bonbonthejon> GrueTamer: true, but he wanted fdisk
[12:00] <GrueTamer> his choice
[12:01] <cprgmswr2> Hi, how do I install kubuntu without overiding my current grub configuration?
[12:01] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok, so when I try to compile Kirocker via the instructions on it's page, using this command - ./configure --prefix=$(kde-config --prefix) && make && sudo make install, I get an error, lemme copy it...
[12:01] <GrueTamer> cprgmswr2: do you currently have ubuntu installed?
[12:01] <cprgmswr2> I have gentoo installed
[12:01] <FroggyTheGreat> ./configure --prefix=$(kde-config --prefix) && make && sudo make install
[12:01] <GrueTamer> so you want to...get rid of gentoo, or resize it and make room?
[12:01] <bonbonthejon> cprgmswr2: grub can choose between then
[12:01] <cprgmswr2> I don't want it to mess with my gentoo boot partition
[12:01] <FroggyTheGreat> Argh.
[12:02] <cprgmswr2> I want to duel boot with gentoo
[12:02] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: if its too long, pastebin it
[12:02] <bonbonthejon> !pastebin | FroggyTheGreat
[12:02] <ubotu> FroggyTheGreat: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:02] <GrueTamer> cprgmswr2: im not quite sure how to do this, but i bet you can just tell the kubuntu installer not to install grub
[12:02] <FroggyTheGreat> /bin/bash: ./configure: No such file or directory <cr/lf>make: *** [config.status]  Error 127
[12:02] <cprgmswr2> There is no option for that?
[12:03] <GrueTamer> cprgmswr2: if theres no option for it, then perhaps you could get the minimal cd, install the barebones system, and then use apt-get to get the kubuntu desktop
[12:03] <GrueTamer> that might work
[12:03] <Sanne> GrueTamer, cprgmswr2: if I remember correctly, the live cd will install grub without asking, but the alternate cd asks you.
[12:03] <GrueTamer> well, that works too
[12:03] <GrueTamer> but i like the barebones cd, its nice and small
[12:04] <Sanne> GrueTamer: yep. also nice
[12:04] <Dhraakellian> cprgmswr2: whereas I'm just planing to do a complete backup of my gentoo root dir for easy reinstalling later
[12:04] <GrueTamer> my only problem with it is i dont know how to make it load my nic card driver that i have on a floppy disk before i start installing it
[12:04] <cprgmswr2> okay so use the alternative cd?
[12:04] <GrueTamer> i didnt check if it had a full CLI, but i dont think it does
[12:05] <bonbonthejon> FroggyTheGreat: hows it coming?
[12:05] <GrueTamer> but i could use one of the alternate cd's to install a minimal environment...
[12:05] <cprgmswr2> brb
[12:07] <SubOne> Does anyone know why my router show my laptop's host name but not my desktop hostname?
[12:07] <FroggyTheGreat> bonbonthejon - optimistic.  I had to install automake 1.9, and I'm running the compile now.
[12:07] <ar53n> Does anyone know how to slow down the mice speed?!
[12:07] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: what router
[12:07] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: I seem to remember seeing something like that in the googling that I did
[12:07] <leiar> i've reinstalled kubuntu and forgotten how i installed flashplayer and java, anyone?
[12:07] <CPrgmSwR2> Okay going to download the alternative cd
[12:07] <ar53n> with adept
[12:08] <bonbonthejon> !flash | leiar
[12:08] <ar53n> leir : use adept
[12:08] <ubotu> leiar: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[12:08] <ar53n> !mice
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <ar53n> !mouse
[12:08] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[12:08] <SubOne> bonbonthejon: Linksys WRT54GS
[12:08] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: what firmware
[12:08] <Dhraakellian> !restricted
[12:08] <Pollywog> will vmware server install in Feisty?  I could only get workstation 6 beta to install
[12:08] <Sanne> ar53n: it's in system settings under mouse->advanced
[12:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:09] <Dhraakellian> FroggyTheGreat: if you have trouble with those divx avi's, try taking a look at that last oe
[12:09] <OptimusRex> how do I get out of command (m for help): ?
[12:09] <fdoving> OptimusRex: q
[12:09] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: its asking for a command, q is to quit
[12:09] <SubOne> bonbonthejon: Firmware Version:v1.52.0
[12:09] <Sanne> OptimusRex: or type m and it will tell you ;)
[12:10] <OptimusRex> thanks
[12:10] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: I suggest using DD-WRT, but thats me
[12:10] <Pollywog> I use DD-WRT
[12:10] <SubOne> bonbonthejon: i think its a client issue though not the router
[12:10] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: the desktop might not be registered with the dns server
[12:10] <Pollywog> so it's not just you
[12:11] <bonbonthejon> Pollywog: isnt it great?
[12:11] <Pollywog> yes it is :)
[12:11] <Pollywog> I even use the wifi with my ubuntu laptop
[12:11] <Pollywog> WPA
[12:11] <ernie> Pollywog - check out the ubuntu forums for installing the vmware server - there are a few things to do to get it working
[12:12] <SubOne> bonbonthejon: well how can i do that, or where can i look to compare settings between my laptop and desktop so i can see what my desktop is missing
[12:12] <Pollywog> ernie: ty I will check the forums
[12:12] <bonbonthejon> Pollywog: i'm thinking of setting another one and using it in client mode to add ethernet to the basemet
[12:12] <Pollywog> Workstation seems to function, the version 6 beta, and that is probably good enough
[12:12] <OptimusRex> I have /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6 and /dev/sda7. How do I delete sda6?
[12:12] <Pollywog> I don't know what the upgrade will cost me
[12:12] <bonbonthejon> SubOne: look at host names, but you should look at ip addresses before host names
[12:13] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: are you in fdisk?
[12:13] <Pollywog> check your basement for radon, it is a good precaution
[12:13] <SubOne> bonbonthejon: where is that information?
[12:13] <OptimusRex> yes
[12:13] <OptimusRex> in fdisk
[12:13] <FroggyTheGreat> Okay, back from a few unsuccessful attemtps.
[12:13] <bonbonthejon> OptimusRex: use d to delete, then it should ask for the partition


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[00:19] <Riddell> oh the blog :)
[00:21]  * jussi waves
[00:22] <Riddell> g'day sport
[00:31] <Riddell> well calligra uploaded but it needs work, still at least this fixes krita
[01:08] <jussi> heya Riddell, long time no speak
[01:13] <jussi> is anyone else getting screen corruption when using a second screen with plasma 5?
[09:12] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:00] <Riddell> hola chicos
[10:05] <Mirv> sitter: how was the kdelibs4support horridness btw, was it a one time "rebuild for Qt 5.4", or should I keep it on the list of "rebuild whenever landing a new Qt"?
[10:07] <Riddell> Mirv: it's only for qt 5.4
[10:08] <Riddell> actually why did it have to be rebuilt?
[10:08] <sitter> Mirv: one time thing
[10:09] <sitter> Riddell: it was using a static method from qtbase that wasn't public API
[10:09] <sitter> the method then got dropped in favor of an implementation with public API. so kdelibs4support was trying to use a symbol that didn't exist anymore
[10:10] <Mirv> Riddell: sitter: thanks!
[10:14] <Riddell><EMAIL_ADDRESS>has been successfully subscribed to kubuntu-devel" hmm real e-mail address or spammer?
[10:22] <Mirv> hmm, but kwin newly uses private headers and I should add that?
[10:23] <mgraesslin> Mirv: what? kwin is not using any private headers (yet)
[10:24] <Mirv> mgraesslin: kwin binary package has obtained dependencies on qtbase-abi-5-4-0 and qtdeclarative-abi-5-4-0, meaning it'd somehow use symbols marked as private
[10:24] <mgraesslin> Mirv: it shouldn't. Can you see which one they are?
[10:25] <mgraesslin> Mirv: might it be that the dependencies got set, because kwin had ifdef Qt 5.4 code?
[10:25] <Mirv> mgraesslin: no, sorry. I'm not sure what'd be the easiest way to do that.
[10:26] <Mirv> mgraesslin: it shouldn't be because of that, only if during package build debhelper finds using certain symbols
[10:28] <beluga_> hi, anyone want to try and reproduce https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89697
[10:29] <beluga_> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/?type=deb-x86_64&version=4.4 Instructions he used are here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Install/Linux
[10:29] <beluga_> speaking about WollMux.. Munich?
[10:32] <beluga_> I have to leave office now, back in 1 h.. you can add a comment to the report directly, if you want
[10:43] <Mirv> mgraesslin: ok, I ran dpkg-shlibdeps -v -v -v etc manually after building kwin. and found at least _ZN13QOpenGLWidgetC1EP7QWidget6QFlagsIN2Qt10WindowTypeEE@Base
[10:44] <Mirv> that only explains qtbase-abi-5-4-0 though, I don't see qtdeclarative-abi-5-4-0 in that output
[10:44] <mgraesslin> but KWin doesn use OpeNGLWidget
[10:47] <Mirv> mgraesslin: oh, I've better output now when using dh_shlibdeps to handle the listing of files, 10 symbols: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10446388/
[10:47] <Mirv> now again I don't know how to find how they get into use if it's not directly in code
[10:47] <mgraesslin> Mirv: QQuickRenderControl became public API in Qt 5.4
[10:48] <Mirv> ok, that would be a bug in our Qt packages then
[10:48] <mgraesslin> QQuickRenderControl is used in KWin, but only if built against Qt 5.4 because it's public API there
[10:50] <Mirv> mitya57: ^ that seems to be a bug in Debian packages too
[10:50] <Mirv> I guess mark_private_symbols.sh doesn't take care of unmarking now-public symbols
[10:51] <Mirv> so that would solve qtdeclarative but that qtbase symbol remains a question mark
[10:52] <Mirv> mgraesslin: kcm_kwin4_genericscripted.so + kwin5_aurorae.so are the ones using that qtbase symbol
[10:53] <mgraesslin> that just doesn't make sense
[10:53] <mgraesslin> I just did a grep for QOpeNGL
[10:53] <Mirv> the binary files match too for grepping that symbol
[10:53] <mgraesslin> Aurorae has some usage but not kwin4_genericscripted
[10:54] <mgraesslin> it links Qt5::UiTools - maybe that pulls it in
[11:42] <mitya57> Mirv, I commented on the bug you filed
[11:43] <Mirv> mitya57: thanks, wow you're quick in fixing :)
[11:43] <Mirv> that should be very useful
[11:44] <Mirv> otherwise similar things might lurk there indefinitely
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:37] <soee> hiho
[12:39] <soee> Riddell: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kubuntu-15-04-Beta-1-Feels-Like-It-Awakened-KDE-from-a-Long-Slumber-Screenshot-Tour-474442.shtml
[13:00] <soee> mparillo: small suggestion, when posting news about beta or other release, would be good idea to add some picture to post, statistics says that posts with nice pictures have ~ 40% more recipient that read it :)
[13:00] <mparillo> soee: TY. Will see if I can edit.
[13:01] <soee> mparillo: nah this one has been posted already, just small tip for the future :)
[13:06] <mitya57> Mirv, with two fixes to mark_private_symbols.sh, the diff is quite impressive
[13:06] <mitya57> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/qt/qtdeclarative.git/commit/?id=fc461f7201551c05
[13:13] <Mirv> mitya57: eh, I agree upon that... huge
[13:13] <Mirv> symbols fun
[13:30] <Riddell> soee: nice :)
[13:32] <Riddell> soee: fancy writing a kubuntu write article about it?
[13:33] <Riddell> kubuntu wire
[13:46] <Riddell> or maybe mparillo can write a kubuntu wire article now that he's the social media master :)
[13:47] <mparillo> http://wire.kubuntu.org/ does not seem to have a post button.
[13:48] <mparillo> Do only elite folks see it?
[13:55] <Riddell> mparillo: yep, but you're now elite
[13:57] <Riddell> mparillo: you should have an e-mail
[14:32] <Riddell> time for Spanish, adios, hasta luego
[14:37] <BluesKaj> mparillo, have you tried netrunner lately ?
[15:11] <mparillo> BluesKaj: Yes, and I keep coming back to Kubuntu
[15:12] <mparillo> I do like they way they map the "super" key, but I am now used to <alt><F1>.
[15:14] <mparillo> IIRC, they default to double-click, and include lots of CODECs, and way too many FF customizations for my taste. It also feels more sluggish, but not as sluggish as Fedora. Fedora, especially with rekonq, is unusable.
[15:15] <BluesKaj> mparillo, ok thanks for the heads up. I tried it a while back and it was ok , but wasn't enough to hold me.
[15:19] <mparillo> I agree.
[17:46] <BluesKaj> running 14.10 plasma 4 atm, and it's interesting how little memory and cpu is used under the same open apps/load conditions compared to 15.04 and plsama 5
[18:29] <_Groo_> Riddell: hi Riddell did you compiled calligra 2.9? do we have an experimental ppa yet to play with?
[18:31] <shadeslayer> you'll probably have to wait a bit before he answers
[18:32] <_Groo_> shadeslayer: will do
[18:33] <_Groo_> kio-mtp is still broken in ci
[18:33] <_Groo_> for kde 4.x dolphin
[18:33] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/L2unll0R
[18:33] <_Groo_> you guys need to drop the hard dependency
[18:34] <_Groo_> kio-mtp is for kde 4.x, kio mtp for kf5 is in kio-extras, but they should be instalable, both of them
[19:23] <Riddell> _Groo_: not yet I'm afraid, it's quite complex with new bits and arm failures
[19:24] <_Groo_> Riddell: np :) how about kio-mtp?
[19:26] <Riddell> _Groo_: they're both installable no? what's the problem there?
[19:27] <_Groo_> you cant install kio-mtp, they ARENT both installable
[19:27] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/L2unll0R
[19:27] <_Groo_> and its broken for some time now
[19:29] <Riddell> _Groo_: are you on vivid or utopic?
[19:29] <_Groo_> utopic, ci
[19:29] <Riddell> ah right, yeah it'll need backported to utopic
[19:30] <_Groo_> i need to backport kio-mtp OR change plasma-desktop/workspace meta packages?
[19:30] <_Groo_> by I i mean YOU lol
[19:30] <Riddell> backport kio-mtp from vivid should do it
[19:30] <Riddell> join us! you know you want to
[19:30] <_Groo_> hmmm gonna test that and ill let you know
[19:30] <_Groo_> if it works ill upload to my padoca and you can copy from there
[19:31] <_Groo_> i want to join, but i dont have a fix schedule
[19:31] <_Groo_> i dont know if i would do more harm then good
[19:32] <_Groo_> sometimes i have the entire week , sometimes i "disappear" for days because of my work
[19:32] <_Groo_> if thats acceptable fine,if not, ill contribute as much as i can, as usual
[19:34] <Riddell> oh that's totally fine
[19:34] <Riddell> it's a volunteer project, we're just happy with what we can get :)
[19:43] <Riddell> _Groo_: what's your interest in calligra out of interest? do you use it as an office suite?
[19:43] <Riddell> mparillo: thanks for posting the wire post
[19:58] <mparillo> My pleasure. Thanks for making me one of the cool guys.
[20:03] <mparillo> If you want a user's .02 on Calligra (which it was Kalligra, but no matter). I would put up with it being a blt clunky feeling versus LO, but it must export MS-proprietary formats. Otherwise, I have to install LO anyway.
[20:52] <_Groo_> Riddell: yes i do, i love the flow app and i play around with krita a lot
[20:52] <_Groo_> flow is the most underrated app from the entire suite
[20:55] <ejat> yofel: i wanna try the kubuntu-ppa-ubuntu-next-backports-utopic ... but why its try to remove the whole unity8 ?
[20:56] <_Groo_> Riddell: so what do i need to do to get going? i couldnt attend the last meeting
[20:58] <Riddell> ejat: qt incompatibilities, I'm afraid that's not going to change
[20:58] <Riddell> _Groo_: have you done packaging before?
[20:59] <ejat> ouch
[20:59] <ejat> Riddell: is it the same in vivid?
[21:00] <_Groo_> Riddell: you kidding me right?
[21:00] <Riddell> ejat: nope, everyone uses the same qt in vivid
[21:01] <Riddell> _Groo_: want a tutorial?
[21:01] <ejat> so it will be ok in vivid to have those 2 DE ..
[21:02] <_Groo_> Riddell: are you the same riddell?
[21:02] <_Groo_> Riddell: recently for you guys i did, bluestack, touchpad, pulseaudio, just to mentiona few
[21:02] <_Groo_> Riddell: i maintain the padoca ppa (used by phoronix and others)
[21:03] <_Groo_> Riddell: are you confusing me for someone else?
[21:03]  * ejat wondering is there any other Riddell :)
[21:03] <_Groo_> Riddell: we are out of sinc here :D
[21:04] <_Groo_> ejat: he pulled my packages like 2 months ago, and we always talk... me thinks he forgot about it :D
[21:04] <Riddell> _Groo_: sorry :)
[21:04] <_Groo_> Riddell: im from the time you still were a canonical eployee
[21:04] <_Groo_> employee
[21:05] <_Groo_> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/
[21:05] <Riddell> it's late, I'm busy speaking spanish
[21:05] <_Groo_> Riddell: maybe this refreshes your memory
[21:05] <_Groo_> Riddell: im portuguese:P
[21:05] <ejat> _Groo_: he not forgot .. just a bit dizzy ..
[21:05] <ejat> :)
[21:05] <_Groo_> im hurt now :/
[21:06] <Riddell> aww sorry, I have head trauma, my mind doesn't always focus
[21:06] <ejat> day n nites looking at the codes ...
[21:09] <_Groo_> Riddell: you even invited me to the last meeting for admission of .. hu...
[21:10] <_Groo_> sgclark
[21:10] <Riddell> I know, I'm sorry! brain breakage :(
[21:13]  * Riddell hugs _Groo_
[21:14] <ejat> :)
[21:14]  * soee thinks Riddell shoudl sing in spanish for _Groo_
[21:14]  * Riddell puts on Manu Chao Me Gustas Tu
[21:17] <_Groo_> Riddell: :D relax i was over reacting
[21:17] <Riddell> phew
[21:17] <_Groo_> Riddell: anyway who do i need to spank to start the "lets get more slave work to kubuntu ranks" process?
[21:17] <KDDA> hi all, I have been running Kubuntu15.04 for a few weeks now and found it very stable.  However I have run into a problem.  For some reason when I log in Im getting a blank desktop, no kickoff menu or anything.  if I move my user account folder and log in, everything is fine again.  But when I copy over my files, it stops working again!
[21:18] <soee> some configuration problems, did you upgrade from other version ?
[21:18] <soee> KDDA: ^
[21:19] <KDDA> I came from 14.10, but clean install
[21:19] <soee> KDDA: but you had .kde .config fodlers backed up ?
[21:19] <KDDA> it was working fine until about an hour ago (I was trying to install TileMill)
[21:20] <ejat> soee: u mean after upgrade need to clean up the configuration .kde folder ?
[21:20] <_Groo_> try removing .cache
[21:20] <_Groo_> and relog
[21:20] <_Groo_> leave theconfiguration files
[21:20] <ejat> or only the .cache folder ..
[21:20] <_Groo_> just remove .cache
[21:20] <soee> ejat: i had a lot of problems after upgrading
[21:20] <KDDA> _Groo_: I have just tried that
[21:20] <_Groo_> KDDA: and?
[21:21] <_Groo_> btw after removing .cache run kbuilsycoca5
[21:21] <KDDA> can get in, but no kickoff menu
[21:21] <KDDA> I renamed the .cache folder
[21:21] <soee> Riddell: nice track :)
[21:21] <_Groo_> k, open a terminal and run plasmashell, and paste the output in pastebin
[21:21] <_Groo_> KDDA: dont rename, .cache is dispendable
[21:21] <_Groo_> remove it, run kbuilsycoca5, relog
[21:22] <KDDA> does it need sudo?
[21:23] <KDDA> plasmashell output is one line
[21:23] <KDDA> kf5.kiconthemes: "Theme tree: (Breeze)"
[21:24] <KDDA> kbuilsycoca5 = command not found
[21:26] <_Groo_> kbuildsycoca5
[21:26] <_Groo_> and its with your user
[21:26] <_Groo_> no sudo needed
[21:26] <KDDA> ok, that did something
[21:26] <KDDA> Ill relog#
[21:26] <_Groo_> wait
[21:26] <_Groo_> run plasmashell
[21:26] <KDDA> ok
[21:26] <_Groo_> before relogging
[21:26] <_Groo_> any difference?
[21:27] <KDDA> same output
[21:27] <_Groo_> only one line?
[21:28] <KDDA> yup
[21:28] <_Groo_> what does it show?
[21:28] <_Groo_> any wallpaper? anything?
[21:28] <KDDA> kf5.kiconthemes: "Theme tree: (Breeze)"
[21:29] <KDDA> my wallpaper is showing since I renamed the .cache folder
[21:29] <_Groo_> no, visually
[21:29] <_Groo_> so, just no kickoff
[21:29] <KDDA> the coloured triangles
[21:29] <_Groo_> if you click the right mouse button do you have a menu?
[21:29] <KDDA> no kickoff or running apps, or clock, taskbar
[21:29] <KDDA> yes
[21:30] <KDDA> thats how I was able to load browser and come here
[21:31] <KDDA> should I try a relog?
[21:33] <_Groo_> aparently the old configurations arent working at all
[21:33] <_Groo_> i would start fresh :P
[21:33] <_Groo_> thats what i did when i migrated
[21:33] <_Groo_> too much differences to make it work
[21:33] <KDDA> I did start fresh
[21:34] <KDDA> my "old" user account was Kubuntu 15.04
[21:34] <_Groo_> Riddell: ping
[21:34] <KDDA> I rebooted and it stopped working :/
[21:34] <_Groo_> do an apt-get update then, might be missing a package or whatever
[21:35] <KDDA> it was after an update, this problem started!
[21:35] <_Groo_> so... might be missing stuff...
[21:36] <_Groo_> wont hurt
[21:36] <KDDA> has anyone else rebooted recently?
[21:36] <_Groo_> KDDA: hu?
[21:37] <KDDA> well it only started after a reboot
[21:38] <_Groo_> KDDA: ok, try to see if there is an update
[21:38] <_Groo_> KDDA: you said that if you start with a new account everything works?
[21:38] <KDDA> and when I move my user account and force it to make a new one, it works, just missing all my settings and files
[21:38] <KDDA> the launcher works, but all my applications done!
[21:38] <KDDA> dont
[21:39] <_Groo_> KDDA: what you mean the applications dont?
[21:40] <KDDA> Kontact, IRC chat, Skype, all the stuff I use
[21:40] <Riddell> hi _Groo_
[21:40] <_Groo_> KDDA: you are obviously missing stuff
[21:40] <_Groo_> KDDA: do an apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:40] <KDDA> yeah
[21:41] <_Groo_> KDDA: and paste the results
[21:41] <_Groo_> Riddell: so how do i start to become a kubuntu valiant minion?
[21:41] <KDDA> if I moved the user account again and overwrite the new files into my old account would that fix it?
[21:42] <_Groo_> it you cant even open a kde/qt file , something is more wrong then just the config files
[21:42] <_Groo_> run kontact from the command line, does it open?
[21:42] <KDDA> oh there is a kernel update
[21:43] <KDDA> is that just released?
[21:43] <Riddell> _Groo_: do more useful stuff like backporting kio-mtp and apply for kubuntu-ninjas and apply for kubuntu-membership and apply for kubuntu-dev
[21:43]  * ejat kudos _Groo_
[21:43] <_Groo_> Riddell: i have all 3
[21:44] <KDDA> _Groo_: Kontact works fine, just no kickoff menu etc
[21:44] <_Groo_> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias
[21:44] <Riddell> _Groo_: you have kubuntu-ninjas but not kubuntu-membership or kubuntu-dev
[21:44] <_Groo_> KDDA: just start fresh, make a backup of the old account and configure it manually
[21:45] <_Groo_> Riddell: must have expired
[21:45] <KDDA> Ive moved back to the main archive, maybe the Ireland mirror is slow updating
[21:54] <valorie> ever since seeing Guardians of the Galaxy, _Groo_ is mapped to Groot
[21:54] <valorie> :-)
[21:58] <_Groo_> valorie: i AM groo(t)
[21:58] <valorie> :-)
[21:59] <ejat> :)
[21:59] <valorie> the little Groot, dancing - fantastic way to end the film
[22:01] <_Groo_> valorie: thanos as always my favorite anti hero of the marvel universe
[22:01] <_Groo_> valorie: the old, conqueror thanos
[22:01] <_Groo_> valorie: he killed half the universe to give the souls as a present for his girlfriend, death itself
[22:02] <_Groo_> valorie: most romantic thing ever!
[22:06] <Riddell> calligra compiling away in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages
[22:07] <mparillo> Ahh, http://wire.kubuntu.org/ feeds https://planetkde.org/
[22:07] <valorie> so _Groo_ has a dark side, I see
[22:09] <mparillo> The Force is like Duct Tape. It has a dark side and a light side, and it holds the universe together.
[22:11] <_Groo_> Riddell: can you move it to ci after?
[22:11] <_Groo_> Riddell: or a fresh ppa just with calligra?
[22:11] <_Groo_> Riddell: or i could do it myself i suppose :D
[22:11] <_Groo_> valorie: not dark, just grey (pun intended)
[22:11] <valorie> bleah, bad news about my laptop: series of unfortunate events will leave me with shiny new vivid beta and nothing else - all data from rather old backup
[22:11] <valorie> :(
[22:11] <Riddell> _Groo_: that PPA does only have calligra in it (the other stuff is vivid)
[22:12] <Riddell> _Groo_: ci is mostly only for frameworks stuff
[22:12] <valorie> but first world problems, I guess
[22:12] <_Groo_> Riddell: ah yes,i didnt noticed it was vivid
[22:12] <_Groo_> Riddell: ill upgrade from there and let you know
[22:12] <soee> what about new LO ?
[22:13] <Riddell> not out department
[22:13] <Riddell> not our department
[22:13] <soee> ubuntus ?
[22:13] <Riddell> yes
[22:13] <soee> ah, ok :)
[22:13] <soee> Vivid will have QT 5.4.1 ?
[22:14] <KDDA> _Groo_: still no kickoff menu :/
[22:15] <KDDA> Ive even tried overwriting the newly created files into my older account
[22:15]  * Riddell out, buenos noches
[22:24] <KDDA> :) Its back!
[22:31] <KDDA> I deleted the plasma files in .config
[22:31] <KDDA> lost a few customiations, but can live with that
[22:36] <KDDA> thanks for your help _Groo_
[22:43] <_Groo_> KDDA: np, good to know you are up on your track again
[22:48] <KDDA> are you on the dev team?
[22:55] <valorie> KDDA: any of us who contribute are part of the dev team
[22:55] <valorie> join us
[22:56] <valorie> :-)
[22:56] <valorie> and yes, _Groo_ is part of the dev team
[22:56] <KDDA> coding isnt really my thing
[22:56] <_Groo_> KDDA: this isnt coding, its packaging, we code because we have to :P
[23:00] <KDDA> do you reckon MIR will take off?
[23:05] <valorie> we not only package, we code, write, have a website, documentation, promo and outreach and on and on
[23:05] <valorie> we very much need help on the documentation for vivid, especially great screenshots
[23:06] <valorie> and as far as I know, we have no Vivid banner for the website yet either
[23:06] <KDDA> well if you need mapping done, Im your man!
[23:16] <valorie> what sort of mapping do you do, KDDA?
[23:16] <valorie> are you involved in OSM?
[23:16] <KDDA> OpenStreetMap
[23:16] <KDDA> yup
[23:16] <valorie> oh very cool
[23:17] <KDDA> mapping townlands in Ireland
[23:17] <valorie> please be sure that a coruña is really detailed where we'll be for Akademy
[23:17] <valorie> :-)
[23:17] <valorie> ooooo, that is so excellent for Ireland
[23:18] <valorie> I've not done genealogy research there yet, but townlands are so important
[23:18] <valorie> I know that much
[23:18] <valorie> do you work with the Marble team?
[23:19] <KDDA> do genealogy too
[23:19] <KDDA> nope, reasearch and draw the townlands and other features
[23:20] <valorie> well, marble would be the obvious KDE team to network with
[23:21] <valorie> I know nicolas alvarez is really active in OSM too
[23:21] <KDDA> havent come across him
[23:22] <valorie> I hope the missing bits we need for Gramps to display mapping will work in 15.04
[23:22] <KDDA> is gramps still being developed?
[23:22] <valorie> yes
[23:22] <valorie> unfortunately, it uses gtk
[23:22] <KDDA> I use a PHP app called webtrees
[23:23] <valorie> but yup, devels are still active on the list and forums, not so much in #gramps
[23:23] <valorie> most of my efforts right now are sucking census images from myheritage, and adding to stuff in wikitree
[23:24] <valorie> I did a 23andme kit, and am trying to get all the segment match groups collaborating together
[23:24] <KDDA> any matches?
[23:24] <valorie> loss of all my data is going to set me back a bit
[23:24] <valorie> loads
[23:25] <valorie> over a thousand, actually
[23:25] <KDDA> what part of the world?
[23:25] <valorie> not all are interested in working, or collaborating, naturally
[23:25] <valorie> my dad is half Scots, half Swedish, so he's pretty easy
[23:26] <valorie> my mother is heinz 57 from all over northern europe
[23:26] <valorie> but her McBees are scotch-irish, as they are called here
[23:27] <valorie> a branch of my dad's Cowans went from Stirling SCT to the plantation in Ireland, and that is confirmed by yDNA matches
[23:27] <KDDA> what part?
[23:28] <valorie> hmmm, I'd have to dig that out
[23:28] <valorie> I guess I'll need to anyway, to help out the matches
[23:28] <valorie> one thing at a time - I've lost all the recent data that was on my machine
[23:28] <valorie> so the next weeks will be recreating what I can
[23:29] <KDDA> how did you lose it?
[23:29] <valorie> whatever isn't online
[23:29] <valorie> series of unfortunate events, starting with no recent backup
[23:29] <valorie> then a upgrade that left my laptop unbootable
[23:30] <KDDA> that happens me a lot!
[23:30] <valorie> and then forgetting to bring the backup drive to my son's so he could try to do a backup anyway before proceeding
[23:30] <valorie> I've never had a bad upgrade before
[23:31] <valorie> now I'll be more religious of backing up
[23:32] <valorie> my biggest loss was a text file of my 23&me matches interlaced with gedmatch folks
[23:32] <valorie> but I can recreate it
[23:32] <valorie> will just take some days of work
[23:34] <KDDA> oh sorry, was reading!
[23:34] <KDDA> Kolab 3.4 was released today!
[23:34] <KDDA> yeah, its important to backup regularly
[23:39] <valorie> I've always been ~good
[23:40] <valorie> now I'll be *good*


[08:39] <gour> jelmer: is brz-git going to be integrated into brz with 3.0 release?
[10:29] <jelmer> gour: hopefully
[12:20] <gour> jelmer: that will be great!
[12:39] <gour> and i'm eagerly awaiting to use it
[12:54] <mgz> jelmer: send our hacking day report to the list
[12:54] <mgz> *sent
[12:54] <mgz> that was a statement, not a command :P
[13:22] <gour> will '--fixes' in brz get support for some more trackers like github/lab?
[13:26] <mgz> gour: it already supports whatever, it's stored as a url
[13:26] <mgz> see `brz help bugs`
[13:26] <mgz> can add some more default mappings pretty easily
[13:28] <gour> ok, have to re-install brz 1st
[13:45] <jelmer> gour: thanks :)
[14:20] <jelmer> eh
[14:20] <jelmer> mgz: thanks :)
[14:20] <jelmer> gour: for git commits, we'd have to work out where to store that information though - presumably somewhere in the commit message
[14:21] <jelmer> e.g. a line with "Bug-Fixed: git://github.com/foo/bar/issues/42" ?
[14:24]  * gour is installing brz/brz-git from the trunk
[14:25] <gour> jelmer: how should be brz-git plugin properly named locally?
[14:26] <jelmer> gour: "bzr branch lp:brz-git ~/.config/breezy/plugins/git"
[14:26] <gour> jelmer: what has happened with ~/.bazaar ?
[14:26] <jelmer> please note that remote git operations are still flaky because they have had less testing
[14:26] <jelmer> gour: it's moved to ~/.config/breezy
[14:27] <gour> thumbs up
[16:07] <gour> any hint on this one: https://pastebin.com/cfTLPYsk
[16:07] <gour> i installed trunk version of brz & dulwich
[16:38] <mgz> gour: if you run with BRZ_PDB=1 and then import dulwich in the debug session,
[16:38] <mgz> is it from the location you think it should be?
[16:55] <gour> mgz: pls. excuse my ignorance, but how i'm supposed to get into debug session?
[16:56] <gour> i simply want to init a new repo and then create few branches within
[16:57] <mgz> something seems wrong with the install, it's complaining about a variable that dilwich has had for a good while
[16:57] <mgz> anyway, off now, jelmer may have better ideas later
[16:58] <gour> now i executed under bash shell and 'import dulwich' does work within debug session
[17:33] <jelmer> gour: are you sure this is the trunk version of dulwich?
[17:34] <jelmer> gour: what does "pydoc dulwich.repo.COMMONDIR" say?
[18:16] <gour> jelmer: no Python documentation found for 'dulwich.repo.COMMONDIR'