[20:13] <BenPA> yumbo: can I do it from a terminal?
[20:13] <humbolt> bobo37773: Ubuntu should try to sell hardware and SUPPORT it, and sell services (not support) on basis of their software stack: like mp3 purchases, photobooks, video filters for some video editing software. that is the business model to conquer the desktop!
[20:13] <bobo37773> r0b-: ok what are you using to take the screenshot?
[20:13] <jdevine>  ~/.xsession-errors as pointed out a syntax error in  .rvm/scripts/functions/env (rvm is Ruby Version Manager): the syntax is " done < <(env --null)"
[20:13] <r0b-> its not a screenshot
[20:13] <Gentoo64> humbolt, its free :s thats why people like it
[20:13] <r0b-> its webcam capture
[20:13] <yumbo> BenPA, sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter && sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[20:14] <lesshaste> has azureus been killed by the java changes?
[20:14] <lesshaste> I get A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
[20:14] <humbolt> Gentoo64: It can stay free, even if they pick some hardware that they guarantee will work ALL the freaking time!
[20:14] <Gentoo64> lol azeurus forgot about that
[20:14] <humbolt> Gentoo64: the best of both worlds.
[20:14] <yumbo> Gentoo64, me too
[20:15] <BenPA> yumbo: it says "b43-fwcutter is already the newest version" and did not find the second part ... the installer
[20:15] <bobo37773> humbolt: I do not think that Ubuntu manufactures hardware. You will have to go to a hardware vendor. Might I suggest system76 hahaha. I get what your saying But ubuntu too is limited by GNU / Linux in general.
[20:15] <humbolt> Ubuntu TV kind of is the right direction. Kind of. But I am afraid, Mark Shuttleworth still did not fully understand, what his goal should be.
[20:15] <Slart> !ot
[20:15] <Gentoo64> humbolt, its probably not even the hardware, but the fact you updated something
[20:16] <bobo37773> r0b-: Use something like scrot
[20:16] <yumbo> BenPA, sudo apt-get remove --purge b43-fwcutter && sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[20:16] <r0b-> scrot?
[20:17] <lesshaste> how do I change to use proper java jdk and not the open one?
[20:17] <r0b-> not using screen shotting
[20:17] <humbolt> bobo37773: You dont get it, do you?  I am telling you, Ubuntu will never make it, if they do not START selling hardware.
[20:17] <bobo37773> r0b-: Takes screenshots from the command line. That way you can put it in your script
[20:17] <Gentoo64> lesshaste, whats the point of azeurus when better and lighter clients are there
[20:17] <yumbo> humbolt, this is not the channel for that kind of talk
[20:17] <humbolt> bobo37773: No distro did so far, and thats why they all failed on the desktop.
[20:17] <lesshaste> Gentoo64: I would like to run something :) what do you recommend?
[20:17] <r0b-> ok ill explain better
[20:17] <lesshaste> Gentoo64: azureus has always worked well for me
[20:17] <humbolt> yumbo: which kind? language or content?
[20:17] <pangolin> humbolt: Please keep the language clean and also stay ontopic, Ubuntu support. for chat you can join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:17] <r0b-> im trying to stream my webcam from CLI to networked computers
[20:17] <Gentoo64> lesshaste, transmission is sort of perfect
[20:18] <rns> anyone know what this means if it's the first part of a cron job?  "0 */12 * * *"
[20:18] <phil_kiddo> hi everyone
[20:18] <yumbo> humbolt, content (lang. too)
[20:18] <BenPA> yumbo: done and I said "yes" to the cutter to be extracted
[20:18] <phil_kiddo> got another question
[20:18] <bobo37773> humbolt: I do not want GNU / Linux to get too big. So I am ok with it.
[20:18] <Slart> rns: every hour enely dividable by 12.. ie 12.00, 24.00
[20:18] <Gentoo64> lesshaste, its super light and fast, has built in blocklist support, ipv6 supprt, uses next to no ram, has both cli and gui etc etc
[20:18] <phil_kiddo> I worked out how to control pulseaudio the way I want
[20:18] <bobo37773> r0b-: Oh, webcam. Yeah that is a little different.
[20:19] <humbolt> What am I supposed to do now? With a laptop, which only works with an external display? I did only use the official Ubuntu stable repositories and it broke!
[20:19] <phil_kiddo> but now, I dont know how to set fluxbox keygrabber right
[20:19] <rns> Slart, how can I make this occur once per week?
[20:19] <lesshaste> Gentoo64: trying it now
[20:19] <yumbo> BenPA, can you do a reboot?
[20:19] <phil_kiddo> Ive got a python script (working, Ive tested it manually) that takes 4 possible arguments:
[20:19] <BenPA> yumbo: sure brb ...
[20:19] <Slart> rns: I think there is a weekday specifier ... one of the *'s in your example.. man crontab might tell you more
[20:19] <phil_kiddo> -up, -down, -mute, -setup
[20:20] <bobo37773> r0b-: Maybe "uvccapture" package?
[20:20] <raboof> hi. i had a headless ubuntu install on top of which I installed X.org, firefox and gdm
[20:20] <humbolt> how can I identify all packages, which have been installed to my system from the backports repo?
[20:20] <JFB> is there a default protection in ubuntu or it needs a special software?
[20:20] <phil_kiddo> whick change volume, toggles mute or sets all values according to file (in file I have actual values, it is used to syncgronize pulseaudio and my data)
[20:20] <Slart> rns: man 5 crontab   has examples and explanations
[20:20] <raboof> in firefox and gdm, the fonts are tiny. I suspect I'm missing a fonts package or so. any idea what I could try?
[20:21] <raboof> running on a relatively large screen (my 32" tv)
[20:21] <phil_kiddo> oh, for being sure, that script was called, I added part that prints "working" to file in given directory
[20:21] <phil_kiddo> so if I call this script, and volume stays the same, I check the file, and find out if its a matter of script, or keygrabber
[20:22] <Scopey> How can I reinstall xfs support to ubuntu?
[20:22] <phil_kiddo> so, I add following line to ~/.fluxbox/keys (default keys file):
[20:22] <phil_kiddo> None XF86AudioRaiseVolume :Exec ~./soundControlScript.py -up
[20:22] <phil_kiddo> I also tried without Exec
[20:23] <BenPA> yumbo: back
[20:23] <phil_kiddo> and with ' ' around script call
[20:23] <Pici> !enter
[20:23] <phil_kiddo> also tries changing ~ to /home/phill
[20:24] <dadda> hi
[20:24] <phil_kiddo> (and that dot after ~ is a typo, already changed it and tried all above, still doesnt work)
[20:24] <yumbo> BenPA, do you have a button on your laptop to turn wifi on/off?
[20:24] <phil_kiddo> at this point, I have no clue what next
[20:25] <BenPA> yumbo: yes and I tried it and it still does not work ... I disconnected the wired connection before I tried it as well
[20:25] <phil_kiddo> I checked button name with xev, name is right
[20:25] <excelsior> is there a package for teachers to make test question banks and create tests?
[20:25] <phil_kiddo> I read documentation for fluxbox - nothin mentioned (as far as I understood)
[20:26] <Pici> phil_kiddo: you need to stop pressing enter so often. Use a comma instead.  Also, can you try running your script as an argument to python?
[20:26] <yumbo> BenPA, you also have windows on your laptop?
[20:27] <BenPA> yumbo: no, but I have 2 other Linux installs (triple booted) and they work ... one is kubuntu and the other is lubuntu
[20:27] <yumbo> BenPA, they work with the newer kernel as well?
[20:27] <BenPA> yumbo: yes
[20:28] <yumbo> BenPA, I don't know what you should/could do then
[20:28] <yumbo> sorry
[20:28] <phil_kiddo> Pici: understood, comma will occur ;) If you mean calling "python .soundControlScript -up" - it wont make any difference, I added #/usr/bin/python at the first line, so shell will interpret script woth python interpreter. Anyway, as I tried - it works just the same
[20:28] <AndyUbuntu> Hey guys
[20:28] <tanath> libreoffice is inserting random spaces in words when printing, even though it looks fine in LO. printing from gdocs in chrome works fine though.
[20:28] <tanath> any ideas?
[20:28] <humbolt> Let me tell you, there is something very wrong with linux-image-3.0.0-15-generic!!!
[20:28] <AndyUbuntu> does anyone know if there is a channel for kdenlive?
[20:28] <BenPA> yumbo: I just checked the hardware drivers and broadband sta is installed ... it says "this driver is active but not in use"
[20:29] <humbolt> Booting into an older kernel fixed the issue for me
[20:29] <Gringoire> Hey, quick problem. Can't get cmus to work,
[20:29] <AndyUbuntu> need to sort out some issues i am having with it
[20:29] <yumbo> BenPA, hmm, can you modprobe the driver?
[20:29] <Pici> phil_kiddo: I mean like: "python /home/phill/soundControlScript.py -up"
[20:29] <tanath> not finding anything on google
[20:29] <JFB> any ideas on how to manage ipad on ubuntu?
[20:29] <yumbo> Humbedooh, can you take that kind of talk to another channel?
[20:29] <Gringoire> doesn't show up. I installed ncurses via libncurses5-dev package
[20:29] <BenPA> yumbo: how?
[20:29] <yumbo> oops, I meant humbolt, sorry Humbedooh
[20:30] <gh0strider> does anyone here use the snes emulator for their ubuntu box ?
[20:30] <Humbedooh> stop mentioning my name :(
[20:30] <Sicp> anybody use URxvt terminal emulator?
[20:30] <akavlie> Could someone help with a server crontab setup (on 10.04)?
[20:30]  * Humbedooh is innocent!
[20:30] <Slart> tanath: do you get the same behaviour if you print to pdf?
[20:30] <bobo37773> gh0strider: Using zsnes
[20:30] <akavlie> My logrotate never runs; can't figure out what the problem is.
[20:30] <JWFoxJr> I think I may have found the answer to why by resume/thaw script wasn't working. I was making a call to a script that sets up the displays using xrandr, but I can't run xrandr without an X display
[20:30] <JFB> i tried gtkpod but it worked only for music
[20:30] <Gringoire> Also, I can't install ncurses via make install, I get
[20:30] <Gringoire> /bin/sh: -I../c++: not found
[20:30] <Gringoire> error. Any ideas?
[20:30] <phil_kiddo> Pici: works exactly the same - changes volume, as expected. You think of setting buttonpress to call python, not bash?
[20:30] <BenPA> yumbo: also I read about rfkill and removed that yesterday after it did not work to adjust the settings
[20:30] <akavlie> If I run as root "cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily" it runs fine.
[20:31] <akavlie> which is taken right from /etc/crontab.
[20:31] <gh0strider> bobo37773: i trid using zsnes, but i it doesn't give you any options to set the keyboard as the joystick, do you have to have a joystick for znes?
[20:31] <JWFoxJr> Gringoire: do you have build-essentials installed? I thought that included c++ compiler
[20:31] <humbolt> which kind of talk are you talking about. I just said, that I found the source of the problem, I mentioned earlier.
[20:31] <tanath> Slart, hm, no
[20:31] <bobo37773> gh0strider: Are you sure about that?
[20:31] <BenPA> yumbo: how do I modprobe it
[20:31] <Gringoire> JWFoxJr: I do
[20:32] <wondering> how to mount a usb flash that isnt being recognized by the sys
[20:32] <humbolt> Can you guys tell me, how I can find all bugs, which have been filed against this package: linux-image-3.0.0-15-generic
[20:32] <bobo37773> Gringoire: Isn't there a ppa for cmus somewhere?
[20:32] <Gringoire> c++ as cmmand works fine
[20:32] <benvei> what does "No cpufreqd socket found" mean?
[20:32] <gh0strider> bobo37773: ya i am pretty sure...
[20:32] <yumbo> BenPA, wait a sec
[20:32] <bobo37773> gh0strider: Hold on let me check.
[20:32] <JFB> ipad on ubuntu?
[20:32] <wondering> the light is on but the computer cannot see or open the drive
[20:32] <Slart> tanath: I'm not sure if "print to pdf" goes through the same process ie printer driver and so on.. what happens if you print the pdf you created from libreoffice?
[20:32] <Gringoire> bobo37773: no idea, I installed libncurses5-dev, thought it would work
[20:32] <paulus68_> question how do I copy with cp a complete directory back over its original one?
[20:33] <Gringoire> I think ncurses is installed, but cmus doesn't work
[20:33] <JFB> ipad = ? = ubuntu
[20:33] <Gringoire> I solved in in the prev install by installing wicd, which I knew for a fact used ncurses. Not a smart way to do it but worked
[20:33] <bobo37773> Gringoire: Look online. I am pretty sure there is a ppa for it.
[20:33] <phil_kiddo> Pici: tried: None XF86AudioRaiseVolume :Exec 'python /home/phill/soundControlScript.py -up' - still nothing (bot with and without ' ' )
[20:33] <Gringoire> bobo37773: I'll try
[20:33] <bobo37773> gh0strider: Yeah. Keyboard works fine.
[20:34] <Pici> phil_kiddo: Can you specify "python /home/phill/soundControlScript.py -up" inside your fluxbox keys file? Also, you may want to use :ExecCommand instead of :Exec
[20:34] <OerHeks> JFB ubuntu on an iPad, not possible yet.
[20:34] <yumbo> BenPA, can you do "gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf" and post the contents of that file?
[20:34] <Slart> paulus68_: cp has a recursive switch.. and there probably is a "force overwrite" switch as well.. you might want to take care so that permissions are what you want them to be too
[20:34] <tanath> Slart, well, the user has gone now, document with them. and we try not to waste ink... being more expensive than oil and blood... :P
[20:34] <BenPA> yumbo: also I use wicd for wireless if that makes a difference ... ok hold  a sec
[20:34] <Slart> tanath: hehe.. true
[20:35] <tanath> Slart, thanks anyway i guess
[20:35] <gh0strider> bobo37773: where did you find the options to use the keyboard, i don't see any menus on top of the znes emualtor...?
[20:35] <paulus68_> Slart: what would be the right syntax for this?
[20:35] <Slart> tanath: you're welcome
[20:35] <Scopey> Can anyone help me with xfs on ubuntu
[20:35] <bobo37773> gh0strider: Open zsnes. Go to  config-->input   Click on the key you want to set and type a keyboard key. Or use the option to set all the keys
[20:35] <JFB> is there a Linux version of itunes?
[20:35] <asif_> amrok is ok
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> jfb elTunes
[20:35] <JFB> itunes-like?
[20:35] <Yahosain> Hi
[20:36] <Scopey> Anyone please?
[20:36] <BenPA> yumbo: what is pastebin site again please?
[20:36] <Yahosain> Can I do what unetbootin does in reverse order? I mean can I make a CD image from what unetbootin has put on usb?
[20:36] <xangua> !anyone | Scopey
[20:36] <Slart> paulus68_: have you checked "man cp" ? I think the recursive switch is  -r , force overwrite might be -f
[20:36] <yumbo> BenPA, paste.ubuntu.com
[20:36] <Sumo-Ente> guten abend
[20:36] <Scopey> xangua: I've asked 3 times
[20:36] <MonkeyDust> JFB  you may need google translate for this page http://users.skynet.be/gbachot/html/eltunes.html
[20:37] <Slart> paulus68_: it might be wise to try out the syntax on a smaller folder.. something you can replace if it disappears out into space
[20:37] <Scopey> Anyone have any ideas why a fresh install of ubuntu would give an unknown file system type for xfs when mountin a drive?
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> JFB  nevermind, i guess it's no longer valid
[20:37] <phil_kiddo> Pici: damn! I just spotted my problem: script name started with dot, but as a typo, I placed dot BEFORE slash (and left undotted name) - when I changed it, I forgot to add . to name, so script Ive been calling didnt exist...
[20:37] <phil_kiddo> Pici: now its okay, thanks for your help :)
[20:37] <excelsior> is there a package for teachers to make test question banks and create tests?
[20:37] <gh0strider> bobo37773: thanks i figured it out...
[20:38] <Slart> Scopey: try asking your actual question..if noone answers it might be because they don't understand your problem or because they simple don't know.. in that case try asking again in 15 minutes or so.. repeat the entire question.. don't expect everyone to scroll up and find your previous message
[20:38] <paulus68_> Slart: I've been looking but since it's containing critical data I rather have a second opinion of someone more experienced
[20:38] <BenPA> yumbo: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/819279/
[20:38] <bad_alloc> hello I'm trying to grab my computers audio output, but everything fails: Alsamixer's capture interface is tuned up, but arecord and audacity hear nothing being played, i.e. they record only static. I've recorded as root and a normal user who is in the group audio. what else can i try?
[20:38] <chuck[screen]> bobo37773: hello. idling :)
[20:38] <yumbo> Scopey, sudo apt-get install xfsprogs xfsdump
[20:38] <JFB> monkeydust: is it trusted?
[20:38] <Sicp> why doesn't Gnome-Terminal set its title to the name of the currently active program running in it?
[20:38] <Slart> excelsior: I know latex has some packages to deal with that.. I haven't used any of them though.
[20:39] <Scopey> yumbo: I got both
[20:39] <Sicp> it's so stupid when you have more than 2 terminals running with all "username@host:$" as a title....
[20:39] <Slart> paulus68_: the more reason to experiment in a testing folder before you try it on the real thing
[20:39] <Sicp> plus there
[20:39] <bobo37773> chuck[screen]: hey
[20:39] <wondering> can someone help me mount a usb flashdrive that Ubuntu is not seeing......   The flash light comes on but does not blink
[20:39] <Sicp> plus there's an option in the preferences where it says "When Terminal commands set their own titles" : replace initial title
[20:39] <Sicp> but it doesn't take effect..
[20:39] <bobo37773> gh0strider: I knew you would.
[20:39] <Sicp> why the fuck not..
[20:39] <FloodBot1> Sicp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <pangolin> !language | Sicp
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> JFB  don't count on it
[20:40] <Sicp> sorry, but it's Gnome, you know..
[20:40] <Slart> Sicp: there's no need for the language.. and I don't think there are that many commands that set their own titles..
[20:40] <yumbo> BenPA, can you do "sudo modprobe b43" ?
[20:40] <Sicp> yea? try BackTrack
[20:40] <Sicp> see how Konsole behaves
[20:40] <talntid> feel free to switch to KDE.
[20:40] <Sicp> so you can actually KNOW what every terminal is running
[20:40] <Slart> Sicp: there are some hacks you do with the terminal prompt.. I used to do it for each new install but in the end I get fed up with it and just went with the default
[20:41] <paulus68_> Slart: true there but the right syntax would help a lot to ;)
[20:41] <BenPA> yumbo: nothing comes bacl
[20:41] <Sicp> it's so inferior
[20:41] <BenPA> yumbo: back
[20:41] <JFB> why apple guys are so close-minded?
[20:41] <phil_kiddo> Pici: and, for the record: in this form it works as well: None XF86AudioRaiseVolume :Exec ~/.soundControlScript.py -up (without calling python interpreter, without ' ' and with ~ instead of full name)
[20:42] <Slart> paulus68_: =)    try cp -r -f /some/folder/to/copy/from /some/folder/to/copy/to
[20:42] <Tm_T> Sicp: you can use Konsole or other terminal emulators if gnome-terminal doesn't suit to your needs, but ranting about it here won't help you a bit
[20:42] <yumbo> BenPA, "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"
[20:42] <Scopey> yumbo: Any other ideas for xfs besides xfsprogs and xfsdump
[20:42] <Slart> JFB: I saw on in #ubuntu-offtopic.. quick.. go ask her in there
[20:42] <Slart> *one
[20:42] <paulus68_> Slart: thanks
[20:42] <enrico_> hallo
[20:43] <yumbo> Scopey, sudo mount -t xfs /dev/sdc1 /media/my_xfs_drive
[20:43] <yumbo> Scopey, replace /dev/sdc1 with the drive /dev/
[20:43] <bobo37773> Sicp: Why don't you just install konsole then?
[20:43] <BenPA> yumbo: it says "eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device"
[20:43] <yumbo> Scopey, and replace /media/my_xfs_drive with the folder you want it to mount
[20:43] <Sicp> I hardly think that running away from the problem is a solution
[20:43] <Sicp> why SHOULD gnome-terminal be so bad
[20:44] <Sicp> i'm looking in the man page, hope to find something
[20:44] <Gringoire> Alright, fixed it
[20:44] <Sicp> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22413/how-to-change-gnome-terminal-title <-- useless pages
[20:44] <BenPA> yumbo: I know this it's there somewhere lol
[20:44] <Gringoire> installed viasource with --no-cpp-bindings
[20:44] <sarthor> How can i search one .xls file which have word "petty", total .xls files are more than one thousand, Please help
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> Sicp  did you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:44] <yumbo> Sicp, go complain somewhere else or go fix it yourself, you know it's open source ;)
[20:44] <bobo37773> Gringoire: Awesome
[20:44] <Gringoire> thanks for the help, later
[20:45] <tnk1> hi peeps.. question... there is some remnant of a window that won't go away on my screen.. i tried xrefresh with no luck.. how do I get it to go away? everything else works fine
[20:45] <Scopey> yumbo: I still get unknown filesystem type xfs
[20:45] <BenPA> yumbo: If I do a ifdown eth1 it says eth1 interface not configured
[20:45] <bean> tnk1, restart x?
[20:45] <nhrfiport> Hey folks, trying to create a launcher in left hand bar. The launcher works ok, but I can't get icon in the left hand bar. Launcher icon shows ok if I navigate to launcher folder in nautilus
[20:46] <tnk1> bean: don't really want to logout/back in and lose all open programs etc.
[20:46] <yumbo> BenPA, can you post the contents of "gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces" ?
[20:46] <yumbo> Scopey, what is the exact error you get?
[20:46] <akavlie> scripts in /etc/cron.d are working fine, but /etc/crontab is not at all, it seems...
[20:46] <bean> BenPA, ifdown eth1 --force
[20:46] <BenPA> yumbo: It's a nitemare but I will
[20:46] <Scopey> Mount: unknown filesystem type 'xfs'
[20:46] <dlentz> tnk1, did you try changing wallpaper (and back)?
[20:47] <matse> is it possible to install ubuntu directly without unity but gnome3?
[20:47] <xangua> matse: oneiric uses gnome3
[20:47] <talntid> Sicp, this would get you VERY close to what you want: http://www.davidpashley.com/articles/xterm-titles-with-bash.html
[20:47] <yumbo> Scopey, what does "file -s /dev/sdXX" give? (replace /dev/sdXX ofcourse)
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> matse  unity is gnome3
[20:48] <matse> xangua: i mean gnome-shell... of course...
[20:48] <matse> and no unity
[20:48] <Scopey> No read permission
[20:48] <yumbo> matse, you can install Ubuntu server and then only install gnome-shell
[20:48] <BenPA> yumbo: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/819291/
[20:48] <Sicp> this is what I'm trying to code right now, talntid
[20:48] <matse> yumbo: ok, thats what i will do then, thanks!
[20:48] <yumbo> Scopey, I meant a "sudo" before that ofcourse
[20:48] <tnk1> dlentz: yes it just stays there. i'm thinking it's one of the defunt processes running inside google chrome, actually, because it was a right click on a link that put the window there (it was the grey background for right click selections on a page), then the writing and everything else disapperaed when i clicked away, but the background grey box remained....
[20:48] <yumbo> matse, but I recommend you install the desktop version and just install Gnome-Shell alongside i
[20:49] <yumbo> it*
[20:49] <tnk1> dlentz: so I wonder if there's a way besides just restarting chrome..
[20:49] <yumbo> matse, the server install is a bit more complicated than the regular desktop install...
[20:49] <matse> yumbo: i guess i will first try the server edition, didn't really like the default ubuntu installation, a bit too much bloat for my taste ;)
[20:50] <Scopey> yumbo: Sorry derped out, sgi xfs filesystem data (blksz 4096, inosz 256, v2 dirs)
[20:50] <BenPA> yumbo: should I have gotten something from modprobe b43?
[20:50] <operating_system> hi all
[20:50] <xangua> yumbo: and why install the server, if he wants a desktop¿¿
[20:50] <matse> yumbo: i would even prefer something like the debian netinstall where i can start with more or less nothing... in fact i would even use debian if they provided an up to date gnome in testing...
[20:50] <bobo37773> matse: Server installation? I am pretty sure there is a minimal install cd
[20:50] <xangua> you just like to complicate all yumbo matse
[20:50] <yumbo> xangua, I wasnt even done typing haha
[20:50] <xangua> like bobo37773 said yumbo matse
[20:50] <matse> bobo37773: oh i haven't found one on the official ubuntu site
[20:51] <yumbo> BenPA, sudo modeprobe b43 normally shouldnt give any response, so that seems ok
[20:51] <auronandace> !mini | matse
[20:51] <yumbo> matse, the server install is pretty light on bloat
[20:51] <matse> ubottu: great! that's exactly what i was looking for! thanks very much!
[20:51] <BenPA> yumbo: ok
[20:52] <mitrhandir> hello
[20:52] <bobo37773> haha
[20:52] <matse> ubottu: oh :D :x
[20:52] <yumbo> matse, but maybe the minimal cd is better for your purposes indeed :)
[20:52] <mitrhandir> cherche meuf dispo plan cam
[20:53] <operating_system> hi all
[20:53] <bobo37773> operating_system: Hey
[20:53] <operating_system> yes
[20:53] <operating_system> am herer bobo37773
[20:53] <operating_system> i have a problem on this
[20:53] <bobo37773> operating_system: ok
[20:54] <Scopey> yumbo: sgi xfs filesystem data (blksz 4096, inosz 256, v2 dirs) other ideas?
[20:54] <operating_system> my ubuntu oneiric oncelot
[20:54] <yumbo> Scopey, hang on a minute...
[20:54] <operating_system> corrupt after run the parttial upgrade
[20:54] <operating_system> so  to do right now
[20:54] <Scopey> yumbo: Alrighty
[20:54] <BenPA> yumbo: when I read yesterday about "rfkill" the soft said yes and the hard said no ... I tried to change the setting to yes for the hard and it would not change for some reason ..
[20:54] <operating_system> so what to do right now
[20:54] <yumbo> Scopey, "sudo ls -a /proc/filesystems" ?
[20:55] <bobo37773> operating_system: Is there a lot of data you need to save on it?
[20:55] <operating_system> bobo37773, yes there are some data on my pc
[20:55] <schnuffle> operating_system: can't you finish the upgrade?
[20:55] <operating_system> bobo37773, lets go to private chat
[20:56] <bobo37773> operating_system: ok
[20:56] <OerHeks> operating_system, did you try to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 ?
[20:56] <Scopey> yumbo: Nothing happened?
[20:56] <operating_system> schnuffle,  i finish
[20:56] <yumbo> BenPA, can you uncomment "## auto wlan0" and "## iface wlan0 inet dhcp" and do a "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" ?
[20:56] <operating_system> OerHeks,  it was a partial upgrade
[20:56] <yumbo> Scopey, try "sudo modprobe xfs" and then try to mount again
[20:56] <BenPA> yumbo: sure
[20:57] <bobo37773> operating_system: Back up your data and do a clean install. You will probably be happier you did then trying to fix an "upgraded" system. It has been that way as long as I can remember.
[20:57] <Scopey> yumbo: Error inserting xfs, cannot allocate memory
[20:57] <yumbo> what?
[20:58] <yumbo> I have not seen that before
[20:58] <ssta> interesting issue.  Can you pastebin the output of free -m?
[20:59] <yumbo> Scopey, ^
[20:59] <Scopey> Gimme two min
[21:00] <ssta> don't think I've ever seen a system so short of memory it couldn't insmod a module
[21:00] <WLU> what is mono and why although the process status is sleeping it still takes all my cpus to 95%
[21:00] <chia2308> Hello nubut
[21:00] <Scopey> Brb
[21:00] <schnuffle> WLU: mono is a .NET port
[21:01] <WLU> schnuffle: does it usually hog all cpus
[21:01] <operating_system> bobo37773, isn't there any means to fix the problem rather than formatting
[21:01] <DerpyHoovy> Hey. I just updated to Linux kernel 3.0 and now I can't boot (grub error: cannot read linux headers).
[21:01] <CaptAnon> Does anyone have any experiance with the at command?
[21:02] <operating_system> bobo37773, bobo37773, isn't there any means to fix the problem rather than formatting
[21:02] <Scopey> back sorry, Yumbo @ubuntu:~$ sudo free -m
[21:02] <Scopey>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[21:02] <Scopey> Mem:          6040       1938       4102          0        645        866
[21:02] <Scopey> -/+ buffers/cache:        425       5615
[21:02] <Scopey> Swap:          255          0        255
[21:02] <FloodBot1> Scopey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:02] <schnuffle> WLU:  No, it'S cetainly not mono but the programm which runs under mono
[21:02] <xangua> operating_system: you haven't even said your issue with details
[21:02] <ssta> Scopey: you have lots of memory then.  That's really strange!
[21:02] <Scopey> this whole day has been strange.
[21:02] <ssta> the xfs module is only a little over a meg
[21:03] <WLU> shnuffle: Can I know what program is running mono
[21:03] <Scopey> i've reinstalled ubuntu twice ssta
[21:03] <operating_system> xangua, my pc fails to shut down due to the partial upgrade that i made
[21:03] <xangua> ...
[21:03] <schnuffle> WLU:  when you open top, type c it will show the whole command line
[21:03] <WLU> schnuffle: thanks
[21:03] <BenPA> yumbo: no go ... it said no dhcp offered
[21:04] <Scopey> yumbo: or ssta: any ideas?
[21:04] <schnuffle> WLU: or a ps aux | grep mono
[21:04] <ssta> Scopey: can you firstly install pastebinit (sudo apt-get install pastebinit), then run: grep "Could not allocate" /var/log/dmesg | tail -20 | pastebinit
[21:04] <ssta> Scopey: it will give you a ORL, paste the URL here
[21:04] <ssta> s/ORL/URL/
[21:05] <biopyte> hi. vlc in fullscreem mode doesnt work properly. the image is outside the frame of the player. ubuntu 11.10 ... any idea?
[21:05] <sneakster> I got a dumb question, this unity interface is pretty awful
[21:05] <ssta> Scopey: also, what's the output of: uname -a
[21:05] <sneakster> Is  unity an unavoidable part of ubuntu
[21:06] <Jordan_U> !notunity | sneakster
[21:06] <ssta> sneakster: it can be removed, or just avoided.  There's a bazillion guides on how to do it on the web
[21:06] <schnuffle> seanbright: yes there are other flavours like xubuntu->XFCE, lubuntu->LXDE ...
[21:06] <sneakster> I was lookin at alternatives such as gnome 3 and kde and such, is that the equivalent of a seperate distribution from ubuntu
[21:06] <Jordan_U> sneakster: No.
[21:07] <ssta> wish they had it as an installer option, but hey hum
[21:07] <schnuffle> sneakster: they all point to the same repos, just the default package install at the beginning is different
[21:07] <sneakster> repos?
[21:07] <biopyte> sneakster; why dont you set  your favourite desktop at the login screen?
[21:07] <schnuffle> sneakster: repositories=software you can install
[21:07] <sneakster> ah
[21:08] <operating_system> bobo37773,  are u there
[21:08] <Scopey> ssta: pastebinit installed bu the second command said you are trying to send an empty document, exiting, as for the uname it says Linux ubuntu 3.0.0-15generic-pae #26-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 20 17:07:31 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[21:08] <sneakster> It automatically logs on
[21:08] <r0b-> well i got it to capture every second
[21:08] <r0b-> but its stills
[21:08] <caravone> ping, can somebody help me with a problem booting oneiric on an x220?
[21:09] <ssta> Scopey: hmm....
[21:09] <sneakster> I'm coming from windows, and I'm not too uncomfortable with the commandline, what would you reccomend in place of unity?
[21:09] <Scopey> ssta: if you want you can remote login and look for yourself, i'm an utter noob when it comes to linux lol
[21:09] <Telugodu> i dont like unity
[21:09] <Jordan_U> caravone: What problem are you having specifically? (Please be as detailed as possible)
[21:09] <Telugodu> <3 gnome
[21:10] <schnuffle> sneakster: I work mostly  in a terminal so my choice is a simple desktop, which is satisfied with LXDE
[21:10] <sneakster> gnome looked good, I saw an article saying the direction of gnome between 2 and 3 changed a lot
[21:10] <sneakster> does replacing unity with gnome change anything besides appearance? Would I lose any functionality?
[21:10] <yumbo> BenPA, what does iwconfig now give you?
[21:10] <asif_> hi all
[21:10] <ssta> Scopey: umm, it's not usually a good idea to offer that on IRC.  I can't think of a single thing I could run that would help that I couldn't just get you to run yourself...I'm stumped
[21:11] <yumbo> sneakster, you're not able to use Unity lenses
[21:11] <schnuffle> sneakster:  I prefer KDE but I'm not willing to spend the resources just to have some eye candies. And that counts for Gnome3 KDE 4 and Unity
[21:11] <caravone> Jordan_U: I installed oneiric 32-bit, it worked fine for a while, then it started freezing on a purple screen whenever I rebooted.  Now I can reboot only in recovery mode.  This happened after at least two fresh installs.
[21:11] <asif_> im trying to watch videos on lovefilm
[21:11] <Scopey> ssta: understood, so you have no idea why it's not loading the xfs module?
[21:11] <asif_> i have the latest version of moonlight installed
[21:11] <ssta> Scopey: there was a similar bug back in some dev versions of 2.6 kernel, but you're not on those, and you don't have the symptomatic output in dmesg
[21:11] <mongy> sneakster,  everyone has their preferences, but I would recommend xubuntu as a nice gnome2 alternative.
[21:11] <gh0strider> bob37773: you are not still around are you?
[21:11] <biopyte> sneakster, start with gnome,  however you can install as many desktops/wm as you like and choose at the login screen.
[21:11] <asif_> yet it still keeps asking me to install silverlight
[21:11] <schnuffle> caravone: sounds like broken hardware or can you boot a live system without problem?
[21:12] <sneakster> ah
[21:12] <DerpyHoovy> Hey. I just updated to Linux kernel 3.0 and now I can't boot (grub error: cannot read linux headers).
[21:12] <Jordan_U> asif_: Most Silverlight video sites use DRM, which is not implemented in moonlight.
[21:12] <xangua> asif_: moonlight doesn't support all sirverlight features, besides it hasn't been a new release since almost a year
[21:12] <ssta> Scopey: no.  One last thing to try: sudo depmod -a; sudo modprobe xfs
[21:12] <sneakster> I guess I'll try gnome 3, thanks for the advice
[21:12] <ssta> Scopey: if that doesn't help, then I'm baffled (but still interested in fiunding what is happening)
[21:12] <xangua> DerpyHoovy: then use the kernel provided in repositories
[21:12] <Scopey> ssta: same memory error
[21:12] <DerpyHoovy> xangua: I updated via System Updates and I don't know how to downgrade/fix it
[21:13] <ssta> Scopey: can you: tail -100 /var/log/dmesg|pastebinit
[21:13] <ssta> Scopey: maybe there's SOME clue there
[21:13] <Scopey> ssta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/819322/
[21:13] <r0b-> any tips for capturing USB video via CLI?
[21:13] <sneakster> just installed gnome-shell in terminal, since the login automatically logs in, how can I change to gnome 3?
[21:13] <r0b-> usinb a webcam
[21:14] <caravone> schnuffle:  System works in recovery mode (except bad screen resolution and sleep / reboot doesn't work).  It's a new x220 with SSD.  Is there some diagnostic I can run to check for bad hardware?
[21:14] <Jordan_U> !pm | asif_
[21:14] <xangua> DerpyHoovy: use your previous kernel then and wait untill you get the headers of the latest
[21:14] <Telugodu> sneakster use ctrl+alt+f1
[21:14] <ssta> Scopey: same thing for syslog?  tail -100 /var/log/syslog|pastebinit
[21:14] <xangua> sneakster: disable automatic log in
[21:14] <Telugodu> then use command to switch to gnome 3
[21:15] <r0b-> !webcam r0b-
[21:15] <schnuffle> caravone: to recapitulate: every time when you do a fresh install, your system works and the degrades?
[21:15] <mongy> sneakster, logout, choose gnome and log in
[21:15] <Scopey> ssta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/819323/
[21:16] <caravone> schnuffle: yes.  The last time, I noticed I had just updated packages before I failed to reboot for the first time
[21:16] <asif_> anyone got any ideas how to watch drm content on ubuntu?
[21:16] <ssta> hmm, that's at least possibly related
[21:16]  * ssta googles
[21:17] <operating_system> bobo37773, be back private
[21:17] <Scopey> ssta: really hoping this works, if not i've lost like 1.8tb of media :S
[21:17] <biopyte> sneakster, log out, choose desktop, login
[21:18] <ssta> Scopey: presumably this is the stock xfs module thagt comes in Ubuntu anyway?
[21:18] <Scopey> literally thats all i did
[21:18] <Scopey> ssta: installed ubuntu fresh, then i read to redownload xfsprogs xfsdump, thats all i've done
[21:18] <ssta> there's not enough vmap space, which is unusual...
[21:19] <Jordan_U> DerpyHoovy: What version of grub are you using?
[21:19] <zoLevDotCom> hi!
[21:19] <ssta> no idea how that makes a difference to xfs though
[21:20] <Scopey> ssta: what is vmap space?
[21:20] <ssta> Scopey: dmesg|grep vmalloc|pastebinit
[21:20] <ssta> Scopey: virtual memory map
[21:21] <ssta> Scopey: if the space there isn't big enough then the kernel would have problems allocating memory for things like modules
[21:21] <ssta> and it's *about* the right size it's trying to allocate
[21:21] <ssta> Scopey: really, I'm just guessing here...looking for ANYTHING that will give hints :)
[21:21] <Scopey> ssta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/819333/
[21:21] <ssta> this is the sort of puzzle that's fun
[21:21] <agentgasmask> Hi all. I got a new laptop with intel core i3 and 4GB ram. Should I go 32 or 64 bit OS?
[21:22] <Scopey> ssta: well i'm glad someone is enjoying it :S lol
[21:22] <chiiiiiz> hello!!
[21:22] <ssta> Scopey: do you know how to edit the grub commandline at boot?
[21:22] <talntid> agentgasmask, 64 bit :)
[21:22] <Scopey> ssta: not at all.
[21:22] <ssta> does anyone know a good guide to how that I can point Scopey at?  I'd be awful at explaining it
[21:22] <agentgasmask> talntid: Simple as that I guess. :) thanks
[21:23] <chiiiiiz> I have found a nice wallpaper on the internet. I have used it as a wallpaper, but I can not find the file on my computer. Where is the wallpaper fine on Unity?
[21:23] <sneakster> I'm a fool
[21:23] <karel_ff> Does anyone know how to trigger 'fast user switching' from the command line?
[21:23] <sneakster> ctrl+alt+f1  for login .... how do I start gnome from there
[21:23] <chiiiiiz> wallpaper file, not fine
[21:24] <r0b-> ugh this is making me mad :(
[21:24] <damselfly9> sneakster, does "startx" work for you?
[21:24] <ssta> Scopey: can you read this section for me?  See if what it's saying makes sense?
[21:24] <biopyte> sneakster, logout from unity
[21:24] <sneakster> ....sorry, whats startx
[21:25] <ssta> Scopey: what I want you to do is reboot and add vmalloc=256M
[21:25] <wulfling> Hello
[21:25] <ssta> Scopey: but if you don't think you can edit the command line, we're going to have difficulty :)
[21:25] <damselfly9> sneakster, a cli command to start X, which would start gnome if you have things config'd right
[21:25] <Scopey> ssta: i'll tell you from now i am literally on my first day with linux
[21:25] <BenPA> yumbo: back
[21:25] <ssta> Scopey: okay.
[21:25] <sneakster> ah
[21:25] <FSK> good evening every body
[21:26] <sneakster> so, logout of unity, login an starx?
[21:26] <ssta> Does anyone know of a way to change the kernel commandline one time only before rebooting?  (I suspect it's possible, but I dpn't know how)
[21:26] <sneakster> and*
[21:26] <wulfling> i tried to install ubuntu 11.04 server edition 64bit on a laptop and it only shows me little pixels at the top of the screen after GRUB
[21:26] <wulfling> GRUB shows fine
[21:26] <r0b-> have any of you used ffmpeg to capture a webcam from CLI and output a video file for streaming?
[21:26] <wulfling> i think i mean 11.10
[21:26] <DerpyHoovy> Gah, I give up.
[21:26] <FSK> could anybody give me the link for aspire one for linux?, because i think there is a bank of them somewhere but i can't find them...
[21:26] <DerpyHoovy> Linux has never been nice to me.
[21:26] <wulfling> yes, 11.10
[21:27] <biopyte> sneakster, within unity find the shutdown/logout/restart menu and then logout
[21:28] <Scopey> ssta: i'm tempted to try downloading captain nemo for win7 and see if it'll moun tthe disk in windows at this point
[21:28] <ssta> if we took a backup of /boot/grub.cfg, edited the original and rebooted, would that would pick up the changes?
[21:28] <frank1985> does anybody here own an Asus P7131 or similar and had to do something special to enable the composite inputs?
[21:30] <ssta> Scopey: sorry, this is advanced stuff, and playing with grub is something I rarely do.  I know what parameter I want you to add, and I think it has a chance (not a certainty) of fixing the problem...but since it involves a reboot and editing the grub commandline, I can't talk you through it in realtime
[21:31] <northernen> Which grub option do I need to set in /etc/default/grub to be able to view the grub menu at boot, rather than it automatically booting into the default menu entry?
[21:32] <indio> Hi. How can I retrieve a Window that is there, but it is not in the Unity taskbar or the icon tray?
[21:32] <sneakster> Got it :)
[21:32] <sneakster> Thanks guys
[21:32] <biopyte> great
[21:32] <indio> BTW, it looks like a bug.
[21:33] <wulfling> anyone?
[21:33] <indio> aMSN, if you minimize it to try, it disappears.
[21:33] <yoyoyo> atrium
[21:33] <BenPA> yumbo are you there?
[21:33] <yoyoyo> drupal
[21:33] <Scopey> ssta: i'll brb i'm going to try downloading captain nemo first and see what happens with that
[21:33] <sneakster> So I have terminology right, gnome and ubuntu are just shells?
[21:34] <ssta> Scopey: good luck
[21:34] <northernen> sneakster, Ubuntu is a distribution. gnome is a desktop environment.
[21:34] <ssta> sneakster: no, ubuntu is the system.  Gnome is a graphical environment
[21:34] <sneakster> Gotcha
[21:35] <sneakster> Are most desktop environments compatable with different distributions?
[21:35] <wulfling> anyone?
[21:35] <damselfly9> sneakster, often are
[21:35] <yumbo> BenPA, did iwnfconig give you anything now?
[21:35] <yumbo> iwconfig*
[21:35] <BenPA> yumbo let me check
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> !anyone | wulfling
[21:36] <BenPA> yumbo: no
[21:36] <sneakster> By the way, whats the most MIRCesque client for ubuntu? I'm currently using Konversation
[21:36] <yumbo> BenPA, then Im afraid I cant help much further
[21:36] <[[thufir]]> running ubuntu 11.04, can't seem to get sound from speakers.  Could be software problem.  Is there a way to test hardware, or do I need test speakers somehow?
[21:37] <yumbo> sneakster, X-Chat
[21:37] <sneakster> Thanks
[21:37] <wulfling> ive been trying to install ubuntu 11.10 server 64 bit on a lenovo .... it installed fine, rebooted, then shows me the grub bootloader without a problem, but once i select the linux server to boot (its giving me a choice between recovery mode and regular) , then all it shows are like pixels at the top of the screen
[21:37] <wulfling> on a lenovo laptop
[21:37] <BenPA> yumbo: did the rfkill mean anything
[21:37] <Scopey> ssta: walk me through what you were talking about earlier pls
[21:37] <sneakster> Gnome is much less intrusive than unity so  far :)
[21:37] <Bisu[Shield]> my computer keep sending emails to a particular recipient (web@website.com), how do I prevent sending email to just that recipient?
[21:37] <indio> Hi. How can I summon a hidden Window in Unity?
[21:38] <BenPA> yumbo: it seems that some hardware is being blocked somehow
[21:38] <[[thufir]]> wulfling: hmm.  tried , err, mode without x.  just terminal like.  no graphics.  what happens then?  not sure if that's recovery mode.
[21:38] <wulfling> nope
[21:38] <funkymonk> how can i find out what version of php is installed on my ubuntu server from the command line
[21:38] <wulfling> its server edition.
[21:38] <wulfling> cli only
[21:38] <biopyte> sneakster,  i dont understand what this unity stuff is about ... never met someone who liked it
[21:38] <yumbo> BenPA, copy your /etc/network/interfaces from your other ubuntu install?
[21:38] <damselfly9> man php
[21:38] <obelus> funkymonk there should be a --version switch, try typing php --version onto the terminal
[21:39] <wulfling> it works fine with 9.10
[21:39] <funkymonk> thanks obelus
[21:39] <ssta> Scopey: it's kinda tough to explain.  Did you read tyhe link I sent?
[21:39] <BenPA> yumbo: can I do that from here ... hmmmm
[21:39] <sneakster> Yeah, I can't see how it got out of testing, it's incredibly unintuitive and where its not unintuitive it just gets in the way
[21:39] <BenPA> yumbo: hold on
[21:39] <biopyte> sneakster, gnome2 + themes + compiz ... and you have a pretty decent desktop
[21:40] <damselfly9> sneakster, they needed to do that for all the windows users who are used to having windows prevent them from doing things
[21:40] <Scopey> ssta: i don't think i got it, sorry
[21:41] <BenPA> yumbo: how can I do that from here ... I can access the other files
[21:41] <sneakster> I still think that windows took out square edged so people wouldn't cut themselves on them
[21:41] <ssta> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Editing_the_GRUB_2_Menu_During_Boot
[21:41] <indio> How can I summon a hidden Window in Unity?
[21:41] <ssta> how to force it to give you a menu in the first place, I don't know
[21:41] <yumbo> BenPA, you can do "sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.bak"
[21:42] <wildcard__> Hi, there, Ubuntu users!
[21:42] <yumbo> BenPA, and then do "sudo cp /media/OTHER_INSTALL/etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces"
[21:42] <gh0strider> what up everyone
[21:42] <indio> wildcard__: Heya
[21:42] <indio> gh0strider: sup
[21:42] <Dcmac> Hello
[21:42] <indio> Dcmac: Hi
[21:43] <BenPA> yumbo: yeah, I was trying to think that through ... hold a few please and thanks for your help btw
[21:43] <Dcmac> Can I get some help installing Ubuntu on my Windows PC?
[21:43] <kale> how/where do i configure grub?
[21:43] <hjack76> why is Unity the standard DE after all? Gnome 3 isn't Gnome 2 but it's still much better than Unity
[21:43] <ssta> ah, hold down shift apparently
[21:43] <M4d3L> if I see something like 24966 nobody    25   0 12432 1028  796 R 100.0  0.0 101115:23 whois americaneuropeanacademy.com     in TOP. do I have to panic?
[21:43] <wildcard__> I have a problem, that is fairly major, involving networking and wireless drivers on Ubuntu 11.10.  I have downloaded the drivers for my card, but they are in .exe form.  I opened it to find the ini file so I could try to load the drivers, but I have no clue what to look for.  The drivers are the SP22996 for teh Mobile Intel Pro 100 NIC, halp, please...?
[21:44] <xangua> hjack76: oneiric uses gnome3
[21:44] <wulfling> [[thufir]]: still here??
[21:44] <kasii> bobo37773, duin the same
[21:44] <indio> hjack76: So people like you and me are forced to use it
[21:44] <OlorinP> quit
[21:44] <gh0strider> does anyone here use znes?
[21:44] <lelerace> Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?
[21:44] <indio> How can I summon a hidden Window in Unity?
[21:44] <hjack76> xangua, i was referring to gnome-shell actually
[21:44] <bobo37773> kasii: Hey
[21:44] <lelerace> Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?
[21:44] <lelerace> Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?
[21:44] <Gentoo64> gh0strider, yes
[21:44] <lelerace> Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?
[21:44] <lelerace> Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?
[21:44] <FloodBot1> lelerace: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:44] <Scopey>  ssta: so basically while ubuntu is booting i need to hold down the shift key first
[21:45] <bobo37773> kasii: Are you operating_system?
[21:45] <bobo37773> gh0strider: Yep
[21:45] <lelerace> OK, I grok that
[21:45] <lelerace> Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?
[21:45] <lelerace> OK, I grok that
[21:45] <sneakster> Theres something kinda sexy about installing programs from the terminal
[21:45] <lelerace> Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?
[21:45] <frank1985> i think we have a turing fail here
[21:45] <Dcmac> When I try to install Ubuntu through Windows, I get an error message saying "There is no disk in the drive. Please insert a disk into drive \Device\Harddisk1\DR1."
[21:45] <lelerace> Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?
[21:45] <lelerace> Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?
[21:45] <Gentoo64> lelerace, not funny
[21:45] <Gentoo64> sad
[21:45] <Dcmac> Anyone know what to do?
[21:45] <lelerace> Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?  Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?
[21:45] <lelerace> OK, I grok that
[21:45] <lelerace> Gentoo64: OK, I grok that
[21:45] <lelerace> Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?
[21:45] <lelerace> OK, I grok that
[21:46] <damselfly9> rampaging bot on the lose
[21:46] <frank1985> lelerace, turig fail
[21:46] <lelerace> Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?
[21:46] <lelerace> frank1985: OK, I grok that
[21:46] <xangua> !ops | lelerace
[21:46] <lelerace> xangua: Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?
[21:46] <lelerace> ubottu: Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?  Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?  Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?
[21:46] <wildcard__> Can ayone help me with a networking/driver question, please?
[21:46] <alazare619> im looking for a irc daemon to put on my server but has to have frontends for linux and windows as i have multiple pc's on the same networl any ideas?
[21:46] <ssta> Scopey: yes, then use arrows to get to the kernel you're booting (it's probably the top one), press "e" to edit, scroll to the line that starts "linux" and add: vmalloc=256M
[21:46] <biopyte> sneakster, synaptic is the recommended package manager
[21:46] <gh0strider> bobo377773: hey bobo! i am glad you are still here hey i was wondering if i could ask you one more question about znes? i know this may sound dumb but how the hell do you maximize znes i tried using that square next to the "x to exit out of znes" but it doesn't maximize it so do you know how?
[21:47] <wulfling> ok so he';s gonje
[21:47] <biopyte> sneakster, its in the adminstration menu
[21:47] <Gentoo64> gh0strider, you need to change resi n the options
[21:47] <alazare619> im looking for a irc daemon to put on my server but has to have frontends for linux and windows as i have multiple pc's on the same networl any ideas?
[21:47] <Gentoo64> gh0strider, you can maximize the window tho
[21:47] <Scopey> ok ssta i'm going to switch back over and get on irc on another device to be safe, brb
[21:48] <wildcard__> Or can anyone tell me where in the sp22996.exe I can find teh needed drivers, and how to isntall them?
[21:48] <gh0strider> Gentoo64: i tried looking at the options, do you know which ones specifically?
[21:48] <ssta> okay
[21:48] <Gentoo64> gh0strider, config, video, modes
[21:48] <bobo37773> gh0strider: Sure give me a second. I am pming with someone right now about a poweroff bug
[21:48] <Gentoo64> gh0strider, ones with F at the end are fullscreen
[21:49] <damselfly9> alazare619, freenode used ircd-hybrid
[21:49] <biopyte> sneakster, if you have just made a fresh install, an update is recommended ... check the update manager in the administration menu
[21:49] <draxo> anyone here have any luck with composite and xinerama working together?
[21:50] <fwest> i installed a base system with no X etc
[21:50] <wildcard__> I have a problem, that is fairly major, involving networking and wireless drivers on Ubuntu 11.10.  I have downloaded the drivers for my card, but they are in .exe form.  I opened it to find the ini file so I could try to load the drivers, but I have no clue what to look for.  The drivers are the SP22996 for teh Mobile Intel Pro 100 NIC, halp, please...?
[21:50] <fwest> other than gdm and gnome-shell, what do i need to get a gnome-shell working?
[21:50] <sneakster> Gonna ask a dumb, dumb question
[21:50] <sneakster> ....wheres the administration menu
[21:50] <damselfly9> alazare619, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIRCd
[21:51] <biopyte> sneakster, in tne main menu (ubuntu icon in the toolbar)
[21:51] <biopyte> in gnome
[21:51] <gh0strider> hmmm i am really thinking that snes is better than znes
[21:51] <Gentoo64> bsnes?
[21:52] <Gentoo64> gh0strider, zsnes is the fastest one
[21:52] <gh0strider> i have noticed that, that znes seems to run smoother than snes
[21:52] <Gentoo64> zsnes is written almost entirely in assembly
[21:52] <gh0strider> Gentoo64: do you know of a good regular "nes emulator" for ubuntu?
[21:53] <gh0strider> i am looking to play regular nintendo games instead of super nintendo...
[21:53] <mongy> sneakster, you might either want to use indicator-appmenu for a a classic menu or use a desktop that still uses those types of menus, like kde, xfce, lxde
[21:53] <Gentoo64> does zsnes not do nes as well?
[21:53] <yumbo> wildcard__, don't bother with .exe files on Linux, you cannot install drivers that way
[21:53] <wildcard__> Or perhaps there is a website with a repository of all the intel network drivers for linux?
[21:53] <wildcard__> Some help you be awesome...
[21:54] <yumbo> wildcard__, the intel drivers should be installed already
[21:54] <wildcard__> It is not showing my device at all
[21:54] <gh0strider> Gentoo: hmm good question..
[21:54] <sneakster> hmm
[21:54] <yumbo> wildcard__, do you have internet access?
[21:54] <gh0strider> Gentoo64: i bet snes will do nes games also, i didn't even think about that...
[21:54] <sneakster> kde-xfce-lxde, whats the general consensus and advantages/drawbacks?
[21:54] <gridlock__> can i use wubi to install other distrobutions? (blackbuntu)
[21:55] <Gentoo64> gh0strider, i have no idea tbh
[21:55] <mongy> sneakster, personal preference.
[21:55] <labtech> #ipv6
[21:55] <Gentoo64> gh0strider, try it lol
[21:55] <wildcard__> I do on my other machine currently, the one in question requires hardline until I fix it, but seriously, it was a windows xp machine until 2 eeks ago, and I was wireless the entire time.
[21:55] <mongy> sneakster, load a vm and try them all out.
[21:55] <biopyte> sneakster, there are tons of comparisons ... just google it
[21:56] <Gentoo64> sneakster, tbh, the lighter ones are always better. you only lose the smoother looks
[21:56] <wildcard__> It's just acting like I have no wireless card, and someone told me to download the driver.exe file, saying something can be done involving it to get my wireless working
[21:57] <wildcard__> So, I got my sp22996.exe file downloaded, I just have no clue what to do, and I cannot find anythign via google on the problem
[21:57] <biopyte> sneakster, as it seems you are a total beginner ... why not getting familiar with the basic system first and play around later ... just my 2 cents
[21:57] <alazare619> ok i guess i need to rephrase what i need...I dont need like a "server" I need a single outgoing irc connection to like freenode etc that all my machines on my network can connect to and use the same user account if you know what i mean kinda like deluge-daemon etc
[21:57] <riking> meh. i prefer #wolfgame
[21:57] <damselfly9> wildcard__, they probably meant to use "ndiswrapper" to have linux run your windows driver
[21:57] <gh0strider> Gentoo64: do you know if a wireless usb xbox controller will work with ubuntu or is it better to get a controller (for snes or znes) that is not wireless for ubuntu?
[21:58] <wildcard__> You are probably right.
[21:58] <wildcard__> Will that work?
[21:58] <sneakster> the sad sad sad thing is I got an A in a redhat linux class
[21:58] <Gentoo64> gh0strider, not sure about wireless, bit i use the wired 360 controller with the kernel driver and it works great
[21:58] <sneakster> and now it takes me 40 minutes to mv a file and change a config :p
[21:58] <damselfly9> wildcard__, ndiswrapper has been known to work
[21:58] <yumbo> wildc4rd, I asked if you have internet access on your laptop at the moment?
[21:58] <sneakster> funtimes though
[21:58] <wildcard__> I do.
[21:58] <gh0strider> Gentoo64: you are using a wired xbox 360 controller that plugs into your usb port?
[21:59] <Gentoo64> yea
[21:59] <yumbo> wildcard__, then what's the problem?
[21:59] <Gentoo64> gh0strider, best controller ever :)
[21:59] <gh0strider> gentoo64: great thanks for the info man i appreciate it
[21:59] <wildcard__> Its hardlined.  My wireless card is not working.
[21:59] <sneakster> Any reccomended reading for ze newbs
[21:59] <wildcard__> I don't always have a hardline option
[21:59] <gh0strider> i am going to order a controller tonight and i can't wait till i get it..
[21:59] <biopyte> sneakster,  then tell your teacher to teach you how to log out  ..... :-o
[21:59] <sneakster> Best controller ever was the SNES pad, thats why all the good controllers ever since owe most of their design to it
[21:59] <Gentoo64> gh0strider, yea just get the plain basic wired 360 pad
[21:59] <yumbo> wildcard__, what does "iwconfig" give you?
[22:00] <Gentoo64> sneakster, good luck with analog games :)
[22:00] <sneakster> true
[22:00] <Gentoo64> even the military use the 360 pad
[22:00] <Gentoo64> lol
[22:00] <sneakster> but even analog controllers are snes pads with an analog addition
[22:00] <wildcard__> No wireless extensions
[22:00] <wildcard__> Twice
[22:00] <henson> Have a base Ubuntu install. Just installed PulseAudio. How do I change the volume levels? Is there a command-line util?
[22:00] <wildcard__> lo and eth0 both
[22:01] <sneakster> I need a pc pad with a GOOD d-pad, they all have the crappy d-pad style where you push one direction and it will go another
[22:01] <OerHeks> henson alsamixer
[22:01] <Gentoo64> sneakster, thats the only downside to the 360 pad, but they made one with improved dpad i havent tried it tho
[22:01] <Scopey> ssta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/819370/
[22:01] <henson> OerHeks: That's what I've done before. Is that correct? Seems weird to use another sound daemons settings. though I guess alsa is different
[22:02] <ssta> Scopey: yep, xfs module loaded :)
[22:02] <ssta> Scopey: now you might want to make it permanent...
[22:02] <mongy> I still have my saitek (p60 p600 something? it's old but works still).  its basically a ps2 pad clone
[22:02] <Scopey> ssta: dude you are freaking amazing, i just need it to run for this boot, so i can copy stuff over
[22:02] <Scopey> no need for permanence lol
[22:02] <ssta> Scopey: ah, cool.  Goosd luck getting your data then
[22:03] <Scopey> ssta: lemme test it out real fast and get back to you
[22:03] <OerHeks> henson it should work, i know the name is confusing, not the reason why.
[22:03] <nahuel_> ubuntu spañol por favor ?
[22:04] <sneakster> Gentoo64: yeah thats the shame of it, the 360 pad is great... but anything pre playstation is a little off with the old dpa
[22:04] <nahuel_> spanish chanel please
[22:04] <guntbert> !es | nahuel_
[22:04] <Gentoo64> sneakster, i used to have a ps3 pad, the dpad is fine on that
[22:04] <wildcard__> So, what can I do with ndiswrapper involving the .exe file?
[22:05] <wildcard__> Because honestly there are a LOT of files in the .exe, and I am not sure which is the proper one to open
[22:05] <damselfly9> wildcard__, first you need to extract the driver files out of the .exe
[22:05] <Scopey> ssta: so now I can mount the drive and see it in the file manager, but when i try to copy data it says for each folder that i do not have permissions to read
[22:05] <sneakster> Gentoo64: I'll have to check it out
[22:05] <wildcard__> Just open with archive manager and extract all to a single folder?
[22:05] <sneakster> installing lxde now, hope its smooth
[22:06] <mumbles__> i am > < close to reinstalling
[22:06] <damselfly9> wildcard__, best to extract it with sub-directory paths
[22:06] <ssta> Scopey: ah, what commandline did you use to mount it?
[22:06] <wildcard__> ....dunno what you mean
[22:06] <Scopey> ssta: it just seems like certain files have a lock sign on them in the file manager, how do i fix that?
[22:06] <Seryth> mumbles__: What's the problem?
[22:06] <Scopey> ssta: sudo mount -t xfs /dev/sdb4
[22:06] <mumbles__> nvidia graphics card drivers
[22:06] <damselfly9> wildcard__, go ahead and extract
[22:07] <mumbles__> ive removed purged and reinstaled and still no luck
[22:07] <Seryth> mumbles__: What card have you got? I've got an nVidia card, and it works fine....
[22:07] <mumbles__> erm. gt218
[22:07] <mumbles__> thats what lspci shows
[22:07] <Seryth> mumbles__: I'm on driver 173
[22:07] <Seryth> Seems to work fine
[22:07] <ssta> Scopey: sudo mount -t xfs /dev/sdb4  -o remount,uid=${ID}
[22:07] <ssta> Scopey: I think that will; work, if not we can try again
[22:08] <mumbles__> mine worked fine till thismorning at 9am
[22:08] <wildcard__> Alright, it's extracted.
[22:08] <mumbles__> then it faild
[22:08] <Scopey> ssta: do i put something in ID?
[22:08] <ssta> Scopey: no, the shell should do that for you
[22:08] <Seryth> mumbles__: Did you do anything?
[22:08] <ssta> Scopey: but I got it the wrong way around I think
[22:08] <mumbles__> Seryth, nope.
[22:08] <Scopey> ssta: i think you did, what way should it be?
[22:08] <mumbles__> well not before it broke anyway
[22:08] <Seryth> mumbles__: Auto updates?
[22:08] <BenPA> yumbo: is the the info from the other two ... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/819379/
[22:09] <mumbles__> Seryth, could be i suppose.
[22:09] <ssta> sudo mount -t xfs -o remount,uid=${UID} /dev/sdb4
[22:09] <damselfly9> wildcard__, now you need to identify the proper ndis driver files.
[22:09] <mumbles__> got a good guide ?
[22:09] <Seryth> mumbles__: Might be worth trying to rollback your driver. I'm busy now otherwise I would walk you through it :/ perhaps another kind soul will ;)
[22:09] <ssta> Scopey: that's if it's already mounted.  If it's not already mounted then you can take out remount
[22:09] <wildcard__> Oh, boy.  How do I do that, damselfly9?
[22:10] <damselfly9> wildcard__, for that you may need to read the readmes that hopefully were included
[22:10] <mumbles__> Seryth going to remove perge and try again
[22:10] <Scopey> ssta: k i did that but nothing seemed to happen
[22:10] <sneakster> lxde is nice
[22:10] <yumbo> BenPA, did you try replacing the file with the others and doing "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" ?
[22:10] <Seryth> mumbles__: K.
[22:10] <ssta> Scopey: if nothing happened it probably mounted.  Look again now in the file manager
[22:10] <sneakster> Thank god, it doesn't feel my laptop is running a dang cellphone os
[22:10] <Gentoo64> sneakster, yeah its a lot snappier isnt it
[22:11] <mumbles__> or try to find my install cd.
[22:11] <Scopey> ssta: still has locked folders
[22:11] <BenPA> yumbo: no
[22:11] <ssta> Scopey: what's the output of: mount|grep sdb4
[22:11] <BenPA> yumbo: hold on
[22:12] <Scopey> ssta: /dev/sdb4 on /media/xyz type xfs (rw)
[22:12] <Seryth> My friend has an external fat30 formatted HDD that he wants to lend me, but when I plug it in, nothing mounts, and I can't see the drive at all. Is there a way to get round this?
[22:12] <damselfly9> wildcard__, after you identify the file(s) in question, here's a good place to start- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[22:12] <Gentoo64> Seryth, does it show up in fdisk -l
[22:12] <henson> OerHeks: So, is it Pulse -> Alsa -> Firefox?
[22:13] <sneakster> Hmm, now to try out xchat
[22:13] <Seryth> Gentoo64: Eeeugh, I don't have it with me atm :/ I should probs grab it from him, and try again.
[22:13] <Seryth> sneakster: xchat is great :)
[22:13] <ssta> Scopey: is it in /etc/fstab?
[22:13] <Seryth> Gentoo64: :O it's you! I'm mang0, do you remember me?
[22:13] <Scopey> ssta: i'm sorry, could you elaborate on that?
[22:13] <Gentoo64> Seryth, i remember the name mang0 sort of
[22:14] <Gentoo64> :s
[22:14] <ssta> Scopey: what's the output of: grep sdb4 /etc/fstab
[22:14] <Seryth> Gentoo64: Lol, I only vaguely remember you anyway ;) I'm sure I spoke to you in #ubuntu-offtopic at some point...I can't remember for the life of me what about though!
[22:14] <Scopey> ssta: nothing
[22:15] <Gentoo64> Seryth, 3d printer?
[22:15] <wildcard__> damselfly9 - It doesn't tell me in the readme, is there another way of finding out which drivers are mine?
[22:15] <Gentoo64> no? ok lol
[22:15] <Gentoo64> i never really go in offtopic
[22:15] <Seryth> Gentoo64: It might have been related to 3D stuff. I do 3D modelling and animation, so....hmm.
[22:15] <Seryth> Maybe it was a different channel.
[22:15] <Seryth> I've defo spoken to you before though :P
[22:16] <damselfly9> wildcard__, that would have been the best way. I don't have your wifi card, so I can't tell you
[22:16] <Gentoo64> Seryth, when you get that drive, if it dont mount in the file manager, do fdisk -l and get the device name and just try manually mounting it
[22:17] <scwizard> I'm looking for a sendmail compatible program that will authenticate to a remote SMTP server with the username of the user running the program.
[22:17] <alazare619> could someone direct me towards a list of client-server style irc clients that have frontends in linux and windows and even android would be neat but not necessary
[22:17] <scwizard> does a program like this exist?
[22:17] <Scopey> ssta: tbh it's only a relatively small number of files if that has you stumped i can live with losing them
[22:17] <Seryth> Gentoo64: Will do. How do I manually mount a drive? `mount /dev/sdb2` or something? brb.
[22:17] <sneakster> the sweet sweet taskbar
[22:17] <ssta> Scopey: nah, I've done this much, we'll get the rest of the way :)
[22:17] <Womkes> What kind of firewall would you recommend for a simple ubuntu server. Going to serve some websites, maybe e-mail hosting
[22:17] <ssta> Scopey: output of: ls -ld /media/xyz
[22:18] <Gentoo64> Seryth, as root, mkdir /mnt/something then mount /dev/sd* /mnt/thing
[22:18] <Slart> Womkes: iptables is the standard firewall, perhaps get a gui for it if you're going to do special things with it
[22:18] <Slart> !firewall | Womkes
[22:18] <Scopey> ssta: drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 101 2010-05-12 15:49 /media/xyz
[22:18] <Gentoo64> Womkes, ufw is good
[22:18] <Gentoo64> easy as well
[22:19] <Womkes> ah ok, its ubuntu server though
[22:19] <Womkes> command line
[22:19] <scwizard> I know that postfix doesn't do this, mutt doesn't do this, mini_sendmail doesn't do this and msmtp doesn't do this
[22:19] <ssta> Scopey: is it a big filesystem?
[22:19] <Gentoo64> Womkes, ufw is cli as well
[22:19] <Gentoo64> Womkes, ufw enable blah, etc
[22:19] <Scopey> ssta: in what sense?
[22:19] <Womkes> looks good
[22:19] <r0b-> is there a way to disable the rightlight stuff on my logitech webcam usinb ubuntu?
[22:19] <[[thufir]]> Wulong: still here.
[22:19] <ssta> Scopey: lots and lots of data on it?
[22:19] <Womkes> thank you! :)
[22:19] <Scopey> ssta: 1.8 tb
[22:19] <Womkes> I will give it a try
[22:19] <ssta> Scopey: okay, that's too big to copy everything...
[22:19] <Scopey> ssta: maybe closer to 1.7
[22:20] <Scopey> ssta: i have a drive to put everything on to
[22:20] <ssta> scoopex: I *really* don't beleive I'm about to tell you to do this...  sudo nautilus
[22:20] <ssta> Scopey: then copy your files
[22:21] <Scopey> ssta: when i try to it says certain folders/files are unreadable
[22:21] <ssta> Scopey: then afterwards you'll need to change their ownership to you rather than root
[22:21] <Slart> *cough* gksu
[22:21] <auronandace> ssta: surely you mean: gksudo nautilus
[22:21] <ssta> Scopey: yes, that's because they're owned by root, not you
[22:21] <ssta> auronandace: if you say so
[22:21] <Gentoo64> gksudo nautilus wont make any difference to sudo nautilus
[22:21] <Scopey> so how do i change that for those folders/files?
[22:21] <Gentoo64> for that
[22:22] <_cb> clear
[22:23] <ssta> Scopey: chown username filename
[22:23] <ssta> Scopey: if there are lots you can use wildcards
[22:23] <yumbo> ssta, what about "sudo chown -R username /media/mountpoint" ?
[22:23] <ssta> Scopey: I'm afraid I don't know of a GUI way to chown.  There may be one, but I wouldn't know
[22:23] <Scopey> ssta: can i just tell it to do that for an entire folder?, and how do i point it towards each specific file?
[22:24] <ssta> Scopey: yes, you can use -R
[22:24] <gh0strider> hmmm FCEUX nes emulator for some reason does not let you configure the keyboard to use...you must only be able to use a joystick with it...
[22:24] <ssta> Scopey: chown -R username folder/
[22:24] <yumbo> ssta, Is it not a better idea just to chown the whole drive?
[22:24] <gh0strider> does anyone here use FCEUX nes emulator?
[22:24] <Gentoo64> gh0strider, never heard of it
[22:25] <ssta> yumbo: I don't know if he wants to keep the drive afterwards...I prefer not to destroy the permissions currently in the drive (it's not my drive, or my data)
[22:25] <gh0strider> its available in the repo's
[22:25] <ssta> if xfs allowed you to set uid on mount, this would be much easier, but it doesn't
[22:25] <Scopey> yumbo: I tried doing that and chown came back saying invalid user, i just typed my username as i see it when i login
[22:25] <Scopey> ssta: btw after i'm done doing this i'm formatting the xfs drive
[22:26] <ssta> Scopey: did you do: chown username directory ?
[22:26] <ssta> umm, -R
[22:26] <ssta> chown -R username directory
[22:26] <Scopey> i did sudo chown -R MYUSERNAME /media/xyz
[22:26] <ssta> I don't know how xfs handles users
[22:27] <Scopey> ssta: and it returned with chown: invalid user: 'USERNAME'
[22:27] <ssta> Scopey: yeah, that should have worked.  Maybe xfs doesn't do ownership like that, I don't know
[22:27] <danny_> how do i install .deb files through the terminal
[22:27] <Seryth> Gentoo64: Ah, k, thanks. :) I'll let you know if it works.
[22:28] <OerHeks> danny_, sudo dpkg -i <package>.deb
[22:28] <init> danny_ dpkg --install <debpath>
[22:28] <danny_> ha do they both work ?
[22:28] <Scopey> ssta: so it's something to do with how xfs sets permissions? not with my username
[22:29] <ssta> Scopey: I imagine so, yes.  I don't know much about xfs though.
[22:29] <BenPA> yumbo: it didn't work but the rfkill hardware is no longer blocked
[22:29] <init> danny_ yes
[22:29] <init> Mine needs a root shell
[22:29] <init> or a sudo in front
[22:29] <prower> hello :> i'm trying to change my default version of ruby to 1.9.1 so that i can set up a rails application in 11.10...can anyone point me to a ubuntu-specific guide on how to do that?
[22:30] <Scopey> ssta: alright thats fine I can live with the files I lost
[22:30] <ssta> Scopey: they're there.  If you want to copy ALL the files, that's easy
[22:30] <Scopey> ssta: as in the entire drive?
[22:30] <Scopey> ssta: thats basically what i want to do
[22:31] <ssta> Scopey: sudo cp -a /mnt/xyz /home/USERNAME/xyz
[22:31] <ssta> then: chown USERNAME /home/USERNAME/xyz
[22:31] <ssta> umm, -R
[22:31] <ssta> chown -R USERNAME /home/USERNAME/xyz
[22:31] <SlayersZ> how do you have multiple emacs windows with just one terminal?
[22:31] <ssta> umm, sudo in front of the chown
[22:31] <ssta> damn, I must be getting tired
[22:31] <ssta> sorry
[22:32] <Scopey> ssta: what exactly will this do, so for instance i want to copy the contents of the xyz drive to the hard drive with the name Media
[22:32] <Gentoo64> SlayersZ, tmux
[22:32] <Gentoo64> oetc
[22:32] <_NiC> SlayersZ, you can at least use screen.
[22:32] <ssta> Scopey: to your home directory, or somewhere else?
[22:32] <Scopey> ssta: to a different drive
[22:33] <ssta> Scopey: where's the differentr drive mounted?
[22:33] <Scopey> ssta: it's listed on the GUI under devices as Media
[22:33] <zaxonspox> hello, can sbdy tell my why PiTiVi refuse to render a DVD imported clip? It stops at beginning saing "Rendering" and doing nothing
[22:33] <ssta> probably /media/Media then I imagine...
[22:34] <ssta> try: sudo cp -a /media/xyz/* /media/Media
[22:34] <ssta> it will take a long time, 2TB of data is a fair chunk
[22:34] <_NiC> Scopey, a 'mount' or 'df' should show you where it's been mounted.
[22:35] <Scopey> ssta: should i see something happening in this time? i put in the command and there's just an empty line right now
[22:35] <ssta> Scopey: that meansit's working
[22:35] <_NiC> Scopey, add -v to see what it does.
[22:35] <ssta> Scopey: as long as it doesn't stop with an error, it's doing stuff.  You should be able to see files appearing in Media now
[22:36] <_NiC> I tend to prefer rsync over cp when I copy lots of stuff
[22:36] <ssta> _NiC: I'm trying not to overload him...
[22:36] <_NiC> :)
[22:36] <Loshki> zaxonspox: also try #pitivi
[22:36] <ssta> _NiC: he's struggling with the idea of cp -a, let's not stick rsync -HavP into the mix, eh? :)
[22:37] <_NiC> hehe
[22:37] <Raymond_> is ./configure a file or a command
[22:37] <Scopey> _NiC thanks for the tips, ssta is explaining it like he's explaining to a retard because i'm literally on day alpha and omega with linux
[22:37] <_NiC> Raymond_, well.. a file.
[22:37] <_NiC> Raymond_, that you can run.
[22:37] <_NiC> Raymond_, in other words, an executable file.
[22:37] <Scopey> I'll be honest, i'm only on ubuntu right now because this damned drive is xfs
[22:38] <agentgasmask> Hi all. I remember reading before how to get a program to launch once you login, insted of gnome (or whatever wm you are useing). It was just a simple edit of a file like .xsession or something... Any tips?
[22:38] <ssta> to be fair, you're doing really well...if all the people I supported were as good I'd have a lot less stress in my life than I do :)
[22:38] <Bisu[Shield]> how do i prevent my computer from sending emails to a particular recipient, regardless of the application attempting to send it?
[22:38] <_NiC> How do I get out of this black window?!?!!1
[22:38] <_NiC> :-)
[22:39] <Scopey> ssta: thanks for the compliment lol, right now some folders have appeared by only the small ones, the big one still hasn't shown yet so i'm a little concerned
[22:39] <_cb> how do you exit man ? ctr-c does not seem to do it
[22:39] <_NiC> _cb, q
[22:39] <Alekix> when using gnome3 with ubuntu 11.10, my system occasionally freezes, unresponsive to any kind of input (or ping/ssh). any ideas for what i can do to try to find the cause?
[22:39] <ssta> Scopey: they'll be copied over...it's a LOT of data.  I wouldn't be surprised if it took a few hours
[22:40] <_NiC> Alekix, run a top in a terminal and see if something is spiking in cpu-usage
[22:40] <Bisu[Shield]> then how do i prevent php from sending to a particular recipient regardless of script?
[22:40] <BenPA> yumbo: it didn't work but the rfkill hardware is no longer blocked ... thanks for your help ... I will continue to search it out
[22:41]  * agentgasmask is going to go eat. mesage him with thought on his query.
[22:41] <Alekix> _NiC, to see if something's spiking in CPU usage when it crashes?
[22:41] <_NiC> oops, gotta run to the subway!
[22:41] <_NiC> back in 45. :-)
[22:41] <Loshki> Bisu[Shield]: which user does it send mail to?
[22:41] <Bisu[Shield]> you mean recipient<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:42] <Bisu[Shield]> i dont understand
[22:42] <Bisu[Shield]> I am using ubuntu 11.10
[22:42] <excelsior> is there a package for teachers to make test question banks and create tests?
[22:43] <Loshki> Bisu[Shield]: that's ok, you answered my question<EMAIL_ADDRESS>is pretty generic. Did it never offer to have you enter some other email when you installed it?
[22:43] <zaxonspox> excelsior, there was - educa or something like this
[22:44] <Gentoo64> !virtualbox
[22:45] <OerHeks> excelsior, i think you should take a look at edubuntu
[22:45] <OerHeks> !edubuntu
[22:54] <blackjackel> Need help on finding the newest created file on my drive, I googled and the best way to find the newest file in a directory is ls -tr | tail -n 1
[22:58] <ironhalik> Anyone knows the solution to Xorg causing cpu spikes when scrolling through webpages? (using any nvidia drivers)
[22:58] <ironhalik> its kinda insane, at moments, renders the system unusable, and google returns tons of results, dating evn years back
[22:58] <ironhalik> ten bugreports, and its still there
[23:00] <n3m0__> quit
[23:02] <nexxor> moin
[23:02] <init> blackjackel, use find / -mmin -2 to show the files modified in the last 2 mins
[23:04] <ilpollo> panich chanel please
[23:04] <blackjackel> awesome
[23:04] <osmosis> does thunderbird support  signature.asc files?
[23:04] <ilpollo> spanish chanel tanks
[23:04] <urlin2u> !es
[23:04] <urlin2u> ilpollo, you get that channel?
[23:05] <Scopey> ssta: sorry I went AFK putting my pc back together, but a few things: a) how will i know when the transfer is done? b) after that what was the terminal command I should use to change permissions on the media drive and c) a thousand times over thank you you have no idea how much you've saved me
[23:06] <blackjackel> ok, it's not working, apparently the files I want to find aren't newly created, possibly newly modified, how do i find the most recently modified files?
[23:06] <ssta> Scopey: it wil be done when the command prompe comes back.  chmod -R USERNAME /media/Media/  And you are very welcome.  The best of luck :)
[23:06] <Wulong> [[thufir]]: still here?
[23:07] <[[thufir]]> Wulong: you're having trouble starting x?
[23:07] <Scopey> ssta: thanks dude, now this pc has 5 tb of storage :S i'll never buy WD products again.
[23:07] <Wulong> [[thufir]]: uhm, no. You must be mistaken.
[23:07] <[[thufir]]> lol.  mix up
[23:08] <Nixi> hey
[23:08] <bobo37773> Nixi: Hey nixi
[23:09] <cosmicfires> why is the 0 group in ubuntu named funroot now? it breaks things
[23:09] <Phong_> hi
[23:09] <Jordan_U> cosmicfires: It's not in a default install of Ubuntu.
[23:09] <bobo37773> Phong_: Hey
[23:10] <cosmicfires> oh I know what happened
[23:10] <Phong_> how to set ubuntu to have sftp
[23:10] <cosmicfires> oops operator screw up hehe
[23:10] <cosmicfires> I was editing /etc/group
[23:10] <Phong_> iwant sftp instead of just ftp
[23:11] <blackjackel> Anybody know how to find the most recently modified files on my filesystem?
[23:11] <ejv> Phong_: sudo apt-get install openssh-server ; then login over port 22 using your PAM credentials.
[23:11] <osmosis> hmm..this guides not too informative.. http://www.randombugs.com/linux/gpg-ubuntu-debian.html
[23:12] <Jordan_U> blackjackel: What is your actual end goal?
[23:12] <blackjackel> im trying to find files that this program is creating, i want to see where these files are being made or modified, thats my end goal
[23:12] <ejv> blackjackel: find with options -ctime or -mtime; man find.
[23:12] <blackjackel> its not creating these files, but modifying them, i want to see which file is modified
[23:13] <blackjackel> i can't use manpages because this is my iphone, no man pages saved here
[23:13] <Phong_> ejv can u pm me??? im using cell phone to chat
[23:13] <ejv> blackjackel: there are plenty of web-based man pages, example: http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?find
[23:13] <Jordan_U> blackjackel: This channel is for Ubuntu, not for iOS. #bash *might* be able to help you.
[23:14] <Phong_> ejv pm me what u just type
[23:14] <ejv> sry i'll only provide support here
[23:14] <cosmicfires> do I need to not be running X to change Ubuntu to XFCE?
[23:15] <ironhalik> btw, hows the 64bit ubuntu doing? is it more problematic then the 32bit?
[23:15] <bobo37773> cosmicfires: Do you need to be running X? Yeah probably.
[23:15] <Jordan_U> cosmicfires: You will need to log out, change the session preference at the login screen, then log back in again.
[23:15] <ejv> it was problematic maybe 10 years ago
[23:15] <ejv> time to crawl out from underneath that rock you're living under ;)
[23:15] <cosmicfires> I've been running 10.04 64 bit, no problems
[23:15] <OerHeks> ironhalik, great, next ubuntu 12.04 LTS will be recommended 64 bit.
[23:15] <Jordan_U> ironhalik: No. I can't think of anything off the top of my head that is more difficult for 64 bit Ubuntu.
[23:16] <ironhalik> cool, thanks
[23:16] <cosmicfires> you can even compile 32 bit binaries
[23:16] <ironhalik> I just remember older times, then 64bit linux was a nightmare ;>
[23:17] <Xourii> Why does Ubuntu have so many updates? It's almost daily. I'm not complaining, I just wanna know why.
[23:17] <Phong_> evj what is PAM?
[23:17] <ejv> 99% of people don't understand the difference between 32bit and 64bit anyways.
[23:18] <ejv> Phong_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluggable_authentication_module
[23:18] <Xourii> Why does Ubuntu have so many updates? It's almost daily. I'm not complaining, I just wanna know why.
[23:18] <ejv> !patience | Xourii
[23:19] <Akiva> What is the notification daemon, and does anyone have any ideas as to where to start in regards to customizing it? I want it to notify me when certain keywords in IRC are used ~
[23:19] <ejv> Akiva: libnotify comes to mind
[23:19] <Akiva> ejv: I can't find it in the terminal
[23:19] <Guest78537> Xourii: have a look at all the packages you have installed.. the more you have the more likely you'll get an update.. for example, a server usually has less
[23:19] <Jordan_U> Akiva: If you're looking for a command to create notifications, try "notify-send".
[23:19] <Guest78537> Xourii: if it's desktop, i would expect daily
[23:19] <Akiva> Jordan_U: thanks
[23:20] <Jordan_U> Akiva: You're welcome.
[23:20] <ejv> isn't it libnotify-bin
[23:20] <Xourii> How often are they security updates?
[23:20]  * ejv doesn't use ubuntu...
[23:20] <Xourii> I'm coming from Win7, so I'm not used to it. ;)
[23:20]  * ejv sighs
[23:20] <lofo_bang> connect irc.anonnet.org
[23:20] <Guest78537> Xourii: as often as they need to be..  some are critical, some are not.. you can choose.
[23:21] <ejv> basically whenever a vulnerability needs patching or an improvement is pushed out by the maintainers.
[23:22] <urlin2u> Xourii, it is open source lots of people working independently on the software may be why there updates more often then say MS.
[23:22] <urlin2u> are*
[23:24] <ejv> Xourii: good basic introduction available here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-pkg_basics.en.html
[23:24] <blackjackel> thanks for your help guys
[23:24] <blackjackel> thank you init
[23:24] <Xourii> Thanks.
[23:24] <Guest58674> Xourii: I actually like the fact it's frequent.  Reduces chances of being exploited.
[23:24] <Xourii> Guest58674:Oh, yeah. I'm not complaining
[23:25] <Xourii> I was just curious
[23:25] <Guest58674> Xourii: didn't think you were.. good questions to ask :D
[23:25] <ejv> i don't think i share your confidence in the system; look at that recent /proc/pid/mem vulnerability...
[23:26] <Xourii> Guest58674: Yeah, I'm so new to Ubuntu. It's very different from Win7.  It's a little tricky, but I'll learn.
[23:26] <ejv> updates are great and all, but they aren't a warm, fuzzy security blanket to put absolute trust in.
[23:26] <froek_> ejv: confidence.. not sure what you mean
[23:26] <ejv> true security needs a layered approach.
[23:26] <froek_> Xourii: good on you for trying :)  Linux is great :)
[23:27] <froek_> ejv: oh yeah for sure.. this is just simple stuff..
[23:27] <RaHorachty> hola, is a program for multi-language linguistical entry available?
[23:27] <ejv> vi? emacs?
[23:28] <Xourii> froek_: I'm trying to figure out why our schools still use Win98.  Ubuntu does everything a school computer does, looks better, and is free.
[23:28] <ejv> short answer: incumbent job security.
[23:29] <eutheria> which package do i need to install to get the pretty ubuntu boot screen?
[23:29] <sdsds> shorter answer: kids dont know shit about cli
[23:29] <Jordan_U> RaHorachty: I don't use it, so I can't be sure, but "SCIM" might be a good place to start looking.
[23:29] <ejv> language sdsds ...
[23:29] <ejv> keep it clean :)
[23:30] <ejv> it's probably administrative mismanagement / lack of technical skill to adaquately audit your school's IT, and the IT personnell themselves who have a desire to maintain an antiquated system because they are the only ones who know how.
[23:30] <Jordan_U> eutheria: Are you talking about the boot menu (grub theme) or the boot splash / progress (plymouth)?
[23:31] <Xourii> sdsds: Yeah, I'm new to it too, but I rarely come across a command line when doing things I'd do at school (word processing, web browsing, GIMP)
[23:31] <eutheria> Jordan_U, boot screen, not grub
[23:32] <Jordan_U> eutheria: Then you're looking for "plymouth" and whatever plymouth theme you want to use. A standard install of Ubuntu comes with a plymouth theme by default though, so I don't know why you'd need to install it yourself.
[23:32] <sdsds> there's stuff like linux class where they teach you linux specifically
[23:33] <eutheria> Jordan_U, because i didn't do a standard install
[23:33] <Sharpclaw> Hey, guys! I'm here for any questions related to Ubuntu.
[23:33] <Jordan_U> Sharpclaw: You don't need to (and shouldn't) announce yourself. Just wait for someone to ask a question you know the answer to, and answer it :)
[23:34] <AzoteLogiko> lol
[23:34] <Sharpclaw> Jordan_U: Oh. Ok. First time on the IRC channel.
[23:34] <Dajepp> Hi all - I am having wifi trouble - just installed a new WLAN card in my dell (xubuntu) and I cant get it to find any networks - any ideas?  BTW i have ald=ready installed wicd and uninstalled network
[23:34] <Xourii> sdsds: I'm an average 13-year-old, and I can figure it all out without a class. I'm pretty sure most competent kids could, although I could use a little class on it. Our computers teacher should be teaching us stuff like this.
[23:35] <sdsds> Xourii: cute
[23:36] <ssta> sdsds: you can't really learn more than the basics from a class...most of it is experience
[23:36] <Xourii> sdsds: ?
[23:37] <Kentrel> I messed about with audio settings, and now I've noticed that there's a huge latency in audio in Quakelive using Firefox
[23:37] <Kentrel> Not sure how to fix it or if it's even an Ubuntu issue
[23:40] <Kimble> Hey. Has anyone re-compiled their kernel for ext2 compression support? If so, how stable/effective is it?
[23:41] <ejv> try and find out, im sure there are benchmarks online; ext2 itself is rather antiquated.
[23:41] <Xourii> Anyone know of some desktops that look a bit like Win7 or OSX?
[23:41] <kasii> kirukiruuukiruuu
[23:41] <ejv> Xourii: there's fluxbox, wmii, lxde, gnome, kde, xfce, take your pick
[23:41] <tankre> hello everybody
[23:42] <Xourii> ejv: and that's for Ubuntu?
[23:42] <Kimble> ejv: yes, it is antiquated. But I tried btrfs, and ran into problems, and reiser4 I think requires a lot of work to install - not to mention its future is doubtful.
[23:43] <spivwaq> Hello: any way to have 2 different wallpapers on a dual display with 11.10?
[23:43] <ejv> gimp :)
[23:44] <ejv> stick them together, save as one file, voila!
[23:44] <Kimble> ejv: as for "try and find out" - the whole point of asking here is that it's a lot of work, not to mention a learning curve, for me to just "try and find out."
[23:44] <kasii> bobo37773,
[23:44] <kasii> am here
[23:45] <kasii> bobo37773,
[23:45] <ejv> Kimble: im sorry, you sounded rather experienced. and on any modern multiple core cpu + the advent of virtualization; compiling multiple kernels and benchmarking is trivial.
[23:46] <cordyceps> lubuntu-11.10 doesnt have startup disk creator. How do I get it?
[23:46] <acerimmer> tankre: greetings
[23:46] <Kimble> ejv: sure, probably. But unfortunately, I'm not that experienced, and I was hoping to forego the whole compile process, not to mention learning how to do it, by asking here whether it was worth my while.
[23:47] <bobo37773> kasii: Hey
[23:47] <ejv> Kimble: what exactly made you aware of ext2's compression ability
[23:47] <h4ckm3th32nd> hello
[23:47] <walden> so i'm planning to back up a bunch of files from within windows to a USB drive. if i want to access these files from ubuntu later, should i format the drive as FAT32 or NTFS?
[23:47] <bobo37773> kasii: pm me
[23:47] <Kimble> I think it was listed as a footnote on the Wikipedia webpage that lists and compares filesystems.
[23:47] <walden> it seems like ubuntu's NTFS support is pretty good now right?
[23:47] <acerimmer> h4ckm3th32nd: greetings
[23:47] <ejv> either is fine walden
[23:48] <ejv> if you want to be absolutely certain but give up large file support, FAT32 it is
[23:48] <Kimble> oh, wait, NTFS support is pretty mature on Ub?  Does it support fs-level compression?
[23:48] <za3k> I am having trouble with a boot to xdm.  Is this the right room to ask?
[23:49] <walden> ejv: what sort of large file support am i giving up by going to FAT32?
[23:49] <Kimble> I specifically mean the Linux implementation - I know NTFS supports compression.
[23:49] <walden> also, could long filenames or funny characters still cause issues?
[23:50] <walden> Kimble: eh, i'd be wary of using compressed NTFS filesystems with ubuntu, but i am the conservative sort
[23:50] <ejv> walden: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table#Size_limits
[23:50] <Kimble> thanks walden.  It's not for anything critical.  If nothing else meets my needs, I'll give it a shot.
[23:50] <ejv> i'm a conduit to wikipedia today
[23:50] <ejv> people are getting lazy :)
[23:50] <Phong_> ejv i did install but why i cant connect???
[23:51] <walden> hmm 2GB files are the limit?
[23:51] <Phong_> it keep asking for user and pass
[23:51] <ejv> Phong_: how should I know?
[23:51] <Kimble> ejv: don't be afraid to just tell people to Google or Wikipedia it if you don't know off-hand :)
[23:51] <walden> i suppose that means my 10gb wubi install won't fit on FAT32
[23:52] <ejv> Kimble: for that particular question, I did know, but I prefer to present the tablated data depending on sector density for him
[23:52] <Xourii> does the Ubuntu software center have a minimum reqs area for games?
[23:52] <walden> i could also copy the files from within ubuntu, but for some reason i "trust" windows to back up those NTFS files more
[23:52] <cordyceps> lubuntu-11.10 doesnt have startup disk creator. How do I get it?
[23:52] <ejv> Xourii: software center and/or synaptic are 'smart' enough to assemble the dependency graph for any software you want.
[23:53] <Xourii> ejv: Can you dumb it down a little for me?
[23:53] <ejv> walden: basically anything over a 4GB file, and you'll hit the hard limit on filesize, that doesn't mean you can't have a 200G FAT32 partition though. go nuts.
[23:54] <Phong_> ejv ok when i do ftp from windows 7 , it display proFTPD
[23:54] <ejv> Xourii: software center will install anything you need, when you try to install the game you want.
[23:54] <Jordan_U> Xourii: When you say "reqs" are you asking about CPU/GPU/RAM requirements for games?
[23:54] <za3k> Xourii: If there's anything you need to install a game, it will automatically be installed.
[23:54] <Kimble> walden: go meshuga :)
[23:54] <Phong_> is proftpd part of ubuntu?
[23:54] <walden> Kimble: meshuga?
[23:54] <Xourii> Jordan_U: yes.
[23:55] <Kimble> walden: Yiddish for "mad" or "nuts".
[23:55] <walden> ah hmm
[23:55] <Kimble> I was quoting "Inside Man", cos of what ejv said :)
[23:55] <Phong_> ejv?
[23:55] <ejv> you don't *need* proftpd if you have openssh-server listening on 22, you can just weild SFTP instead.
[23:55] <Phong_> well how to get it out?
[23:55] <roadfish> I have two Ubuntu machines hooked up with an ethernet-cable (no router) and want to view videos from the first on the second. I saw suggestions of NFS, Samba, and some ideas involving SSH. I already have openssh-server setup up-and-running on the first PC. So, what is the best approach to get video watching?
[23:55] <walden> i guess NTFS -> NTFS from within windows is the safest bet
[23:56] <Phong_> how to uninstall proftpd then?
[23:56] <walden> though i'd like to get all this stuff on a ext3 fileserver eventually
[23:56] <ejv> i have no idea what the proftpd package is called, I assume `apt-get remove proftpd`
[23:56] <Phong_> hmmm
[23:56] <cordyceps> lubuntu-11.10 here. Synaptic doesn't list startup-disk-creator. How do I get it?
[23:57] <Kimble> lol, poor ejv - 1520 users "online", and he's taking the brunt of all the questions. Don'cha love bouncers?
[23:57] <ejv> stop me if im wrong, but don't you need a 'cross-over' cable with no router; i don't think a standard ethernet cable is sufficent to connect two machines directly.
[23:57] <ejv> roadfish ^
[23:58] <za3k> ejv: No, most modern card will automatically correct.
[23:58] <cordyceps> za3k: first I heard. What do yu mean modern?
[23:58] <ejv> i don't think that's true...
[23:58] <roadfish> ejv:ah, a bit debate that I encountered. But no you do not ... my new computers have build-in-ethernet tat includes "auto-sense".
[23:59]  * ejv shrugs
[23:59] <Jordan_U> Xourii: No, there is no such area that I'm aware of.
[23:59] <roadfish> cordyceps:my two PCs are 2005 and 2011 ... and the ethernet-cable (not crossover) just works.