[09:32] <gotwig> jo
[13:01]  * apw is seeing some background corruption with todays quantal
[13:04] <seb128> apw, nothing in desktop changed for a week, maybe check on the kernel,xorg side?
[13:04] <apw> seb128, given the shape of the corrupted areas it feels like a compositor issue
[13:05] <seb128> but compiz didn't change for a week...
[13:05] <seb128> if that started today it's weird
[13:05] <apw> no this has been lagging a week probabally
[13:05] <apw> (the machine, and updated today
[13:06] <apw> so this probabaly is the first time it has had the new compiz
[13:06] <apw> its a very basic machine, a netbook which of course we test with
[13:07] <apw> i keep getting what looks like the shadow under the launcher visible on the screen without the launcher which is scrolled off
[13:08] <apw> yeah its the _exact_ width of the launcher bar without its shadows
[13:09] <gotwig> morning
[13:12] <apw> seb128, how easy is it to downgrade compiz to see if it is to blame
[13:13] <apw> seb128, as the previous kernel shows the same behaviour
[13:13] <seb128> apw, not, the recent version was the port to gsettings which involves 5-6 desktop components
[13:14] <apw> seb128, ok i definatly got that update cause gsetting migration exploded during the update
[13:15] <seb128> in which way?
[13:15] <apw> it crashed and tried to file a bug report
[13:15] <apw> though it didn't work, i do have the /var/crash for it, so i suspect if i knew how i could resubmit it
[13:22] <apw> ok managed to do that, it crashed as per this bug: bug #1044365, i have subscribed you
[14:12] <apw> seb128, ok ... confirmed as a mesa issue,  bug #1042211
[14:12] <seb128> apw, pfiou, thanks for tracking it down!
[15:45] <gotwig> hello
[15:45] <gotwig> Are unity previews images working correctly? I dont see images for some system lenses
[15:48] <gotwig> davidcalle: ^
[15:48] <davidcalle> gotwig, don't see images : just the spinner or no preview at all?
[15:49] <gotwig> davidcalle: I dont see the big image at the left in unity preview
[15:49] <gotwig> unity preview works
[15:49] <davidcalle> gotwig, ok, which lenses?
[15:50] <gotwig> "Applications"
[15:50] <gotwig> "No Image available"
[15:51] <nessita> hello everyone! Could anyone please help me fix/debug/diagnose this issue I'm having with unity-3d in precise? My terminal gets resized (it gets smaller and smaller) when I use Qt Apps (see video here http://ubuntuone.com/5P2MrQofbiEfFZkLk8bKF5)
[15:51] <gotwig> And I think I did as well something wrong in my own lens
[15:51] <davidcalle> gotwig, that's probably because the application doesn't have a screenshot, if it doesn't have one either in the Software Center, that's normal then.
[15:52] <gotwig> davidcalle: btw, the screenshots @ omgubuntu look much better than it actually is ;)
[15:52] <popey> gotwig, maybe you need more kitten pictures
[15:52] <gotwig> :O!
[15:53] <gotwig> popey: of course, thats it, or more cookies images
[15:53] <gotwig> ;)
[15:58] <davidcalle> gotwig, what have you done wrong, same issue, no image?
[15:58] <gotwig> davidcalle: I think its not a problem. Screenshot is missing I think
[15:58] <gotwig> davidcalle: I am experimenting with my cooking lens and unity previews right now
[15:59] <gotwig> just wanna know what is broken, what not, etc.
[16:00] <gotwig> and with python 3.2 there is a better way for temporary file handling
[16:00] <davidcalle> gotwig, that's nice :) Well, as far as I've tested things, everything works. There is just a bug when you are putting *a lot* of text in the "description" field of previews.
[16:00] <gotwig> tempfile
[16:00] <gotwig> of course, it would be awesom, if Unity could just handle raw image data, so I dont need to make it to a file
[16:04] <davidcalle> gotwig, you are doing things with the images before passing them to Unity? What sort of things, embedding icons?
[16:05] <gotwig> davidcalle: what are embedded icons
[16:06] <davidcalle> gotwig, putting an icon on top of an image (to indicate from which service/website it comes from for example).
[16:07] <gotwig> davidcalle: I have the imagedata in an array position
[16:07] <davidcalle> gotwig, oh right, I remember :)
[16:09] <davidcalle> gotwig, the db you use is inflicting this on you. Have you filed a bug on Unity about that?
[16:09] <gotwig> davidcalle: hm, I dont know
[16:09] <gotwig> davidcalle: should I fill a bugreport?
[16:10] <davidcalle> gotwig, the Dash now has it's own thumbnail generator, for previews at least, maybe it could be used for lens results too. Yes, you should.
[16:10] <gotwig> davidcalle: maybe I can retry?
[16:10] <davidcalle> gotwig, you should
[16:10] <gotwig> davidcalle: to test if it works with raw data?
[16:10] <gotwig> ok
[16:28] <gotwig> davidcalle: reported: bug #1044456
[16:56] <gotwig> can someone confirm please #1044456
[16:57] <gotwig> bug #1044456
[17:18] <davidcalle> gotwig, do you mind if I tweak your bug report a little (fix typos)?
[17:18] <gotwig> davidcalle: haha ;) sure, friend
[17:22] <davidcalle> gotwig, ok, done and marked myself as affected.
[17:22] <gotwig> davidcalle: :-)
[17:22] <gotwig> davidcalle: I am using now tempfile for this
[17:22] <davidcalle> ;)
[17:23] <davidcalle> gotwig, yes, that's much easier
[17:23] <gotwig> davidcalle: do you know a scope that uses JSON?
[17:28] <davidcalle> gotwig, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~davidc3/onehundredscopes/cities/view/head:/src/unity-scope-cities
[17:29] <davidcalle> gotwig, need to go, but you'll see, json is very easy to parse, much nicer than xml.
[18:03] <c10ud> i must say, the hud is really a nice thing: i opened gimp, i wtf-ed about finding a menu option and then...the HUD! wow m3n! (yes, first time i use the hud, but still ;))
[18:32] <gotwig> c10ud: cool
[18:33] <gotwig> c10ud: do you run Ubuntu 12.04.1?
[18:33] <c10ud> gotwig, yes
[18:33] <gotwig> c10ud: So you use Gimp 2.6?
[18:33] <c10ud> yes
[18:34] <gotwig> c10ud: :-)
[18:34] <gotwig> c10ud: are you using additional Lenses&Scopes?
[18:35] <c10ud> nope
[19:44] <sbte> seb128, about the messagingmenu, I still don't see any replacement API for the status-provider extensions
[19:44] <seb128> sbte, what apis?
[19:45] <sbte> seb128, to get and set the status of the messagingmenu
[19:46] <seb128> sbte, messaging_menu_app_set_status()
[19:47] <seb128> sbte, status-changed is emitted when the status change
[19:47] <sbte> seb128, ah great
[19:47] <sbte> much nicer
[19:50] <sbte> 300 LOC to 150 LOC
[19:55] <sbte> seb128, thanks
[19:56] <seb128> sbte, yw
[20:03] <MCR1> Hi :)
[20:03] <MCR1> Do I need Compiz r3319+ (GLES merge) to run latest Unity trunk ?
[20:22] <bschaefer> MCR1, hey, https://code.launchpad.net/~mc-return/unity/unity.merge.fix-hardcoded-keys-part1/+merge/121545
[20:22] <MCR1> bschaefer: Hi :)
[20:22] <bschaefer> MCR1, if you get that fixed I can approve it :)
[20:23] <MCR1> Thx, but I do not know what smspillaz exactly wants - I would have to make all of those constants then, not only this one, yes ?
[20:24] <MCR1> bschaefer: You know how this part of the code looks like...
[20:24] <bschaefer> MCR1, he just wants you to make a const std::string for the string "core" and "window_menu_key"
[20:25] <bschaefer> and then replace each hard coded "core" with that variable
[20:25] <bschaefer> so if core or window_menu_key ever change only 1 part of the code needs to be changed
[20:25] <MCR1> bschaefer: but this would be inconsistent with the other shortcuts then, no ?
[20:25] <MCR1> bschaefer: I should do that for all of them then, no ?
[20:26] <bschaefer> MCR1, do it for all the "core" and "window_menu_key"
[20:26] <bschaefer> MCR1, let me look at the code again
[20:26] <bschaefer> it's been a week or so haha
[20:26] <MCR1> And where should I put those constants then ?
[20:26] <MCR1> haha
[20:26] <bschaefer> in the cpp file
[20:26] <bschaefer> yo can just make it twice
[20:26] <bschaefer> one in standalone and one in unityshell.cpp
[20:26] <MCR1> ok
[20:28] <MCR1> Probably it is best to make those constants for all the other plugin names and key names as well to keep the code consistent
[20:29] <bschaefer> MCR1, yeeah, but that code also just needs to be fixed...
[20:29] <MCR1> bschaefer: Do you know if my assumption that Unity trunk needs the GLES version of Compiz to run is correct ?
[20:29] <bschaefer> MCR1, hmm it should be in staging ppa
[20:29] <bschaefer> enough to compile/run unity
[20:30]  * MCR1 is stuck with Compiz r3319, because of all his additional plugins he does not wanna loose
[20:30] <MCR1> :)
[20:30] <bschaefer> yeah that wouldn't be good :)
[20:31] <MCR1> Sooner or later I will have to move to the modern GLES Compiz, but currently it hurts too much
[20:31] <MCR1> Unfortunately I have no knowledge about OpenGL -> GLES porting, so at the moment I cannot help at this front...
[20:32] <bschaefer> MCR1, neither do I :)
[21:20] <gotwig> hey


[09:16] <alan_g[m]> Saviq: is https://dashboard.snapcraft.io/ working for you? (Asking because of CI failures ([example](https://pipelines.actions.githubusercontent.com/serviceHosts/c970ea87-beb6-485e-bd4a-f9b0c1bb1dd9/_apis/pipelines/1/runs/23535/signedlogcontent/12))
[09:17] <Saviq> Nope, server error
[09:21] <Saviq> But even if it did work, the problem is the PR I put up yesterday with system-files
[09:22] <Saviq> Because that's in the queue, it prevents publishing of any new revisions
[09:23] <alan_g[m]> Saviq: A problem is that this fails and cancels the other snap builds
[09:24] <Saviq> Yeah, which I think is wrong on the CI setup
[09:24] <alan_g[m]> Anyway, thanks for confirming
[09:25] <Saviq> alan_g https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2990
[16:05] <Saviq> Today:
[16:05] <Saviq> - dealt with CI / snap store issues around confined-shell
[16:34] <Saviq> Note to self (and everyone else): the delay when launching GTK (sn)apps is portals:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/37c7ddedfe08d065adcc098248b0f95d24d69ab6>)
[16:44] <alan_g[m]> Today:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/a0bfe5ea186741b7db63a2a1877d66f35af9ec8b>)
 "Note to self (and everyone else)..." <- > <@saviq:matrix.org> Note to self (and everyone else): the delay when launching GTK (sn)apps is portals:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/08646e8e44f43ed0194f76c0de7e83e6a4078682>)
[17:30] <Saviq> Though that last one might be a red herring
[22:27] <mattkae[m]> Update for me:
[22:29] <mattkae[m]> Update for me:... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/6062005f8fb1bc1dedbb9bf53d0cae8f9eb53b84>)


 @KMyers I'm getting ready to head down, want me to let you know when I head out?
 Coffehaus should be open until 1 today
 One sec
 Give me 20 minutes to pick up something
 No rush I haven't head out yet
 @KMyers heading out now, sorry a little late, going to pick up a coffee from mcdonalds for the drive down!
 No rush either way!
[01:38] <floridagram-bot> <Hector Arista> We must order The Judd
 Here be in in a few minutes
 Haha yes
 We are here
 @ahoneybun https://www.engadget.com/2017/08/19/amazon-cancels-free-echo-dot-orders/
 yep got the email
 That kind of sucks, but on the other hand, did we really think that was going to happen?
 some people were posting that theirs shipped already
 Wow, sucks for Amazon, then
 https://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/17/08/19/238212/jonathan-coultons-new-dystopian-album-becomes-a-graphic-novel
 https://www.postmarketos.org/
 Yea the units are just booting right now


[00:36] <ahoneybun> Has anyone seen this bug? https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/4642
[00:49] <ahoneybun> Mm we don't ship Driver Manager in 22.04 LTS?
[03:47] <mamarley> RikMills: Just as a heads up, it looks like the layer-shell-qt in staging-plasma is missing an epoch (or plasma-workspace-wayland has an incorrect dependency).  It wants ">= 4:5.23.90~", but the actual version is "5.24.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu22.04~ppa1".
[06:22] <RikMills> mamarley: thanks!
[06:43] <RikMills> ahoneybun: we have it, but launch the one in software-properties-qt now
[06:45] <RikMills> see the link in systemsettings
[06:47] <RikMills> our native package was breaking and unmaintainable. plus no point duplicating was was already there now in software properties
[13:02] <BluesKaj> 'morning all
 Yea I found the one in software-properties so I recommend that one.
[21:42] <santa_> hi everyone
[21:42] <santa_> RikMills: I would like to do fw 5.91 this weekend
[21:43] <santa_> the idea is either:
[21:43] <santa_> - testing latest KA things, and maybe do a KA release soon
[21:44] <santa_> - the thing above + showing someone who expressed interest in KA show how KA works while doing the fw release
[22:11] <RikMills> santa_: ok with me
[22:11] <santa_> btw have you seen the kuserfeedback mail?
[22:13] <RikMills> santa_: the backport request? if so, they made a new release instead
[22:13] <RikMills> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kuserfeedback/1.2.0-0ubuntu1
[22:14] <santa_> ahhh, nice
[22:15] <santa_> does it need an SRU for impish, do you know?
[22:16] <RikMills> I got the impression it was only needed with newer things, but I can check with Nate ti be sure
[22:16] <santa_> ack, thanks a lot


[09:26] <dholbach> mhall119, I can't remember the deployment process for community.u.c, but ant just pushed a fix for it - do you know what needs to be done there?
[09:26] <dholbach> he also pushed a fix for dev.u.c
[09:26] <dholbach> davidcalle, ^ how is this done nowadays?
[12:53] <mhall119> dholbach: I believe it's a legacy wordpress site, so file an RT and someone in IS will pull the new code
[12:54] <dholbach> antdillon, ^ that's for community.u.c - are you in touch with IS already or shall I drop them an email?
[12:59] <antdillon> dholbach, I havent filed anythin, if you wouldnt mind that would be great
[12:59] <dholbach> ok..


[08:57] <firecrotch> I need some major help
[04:49] <deetah> hi guys
[04:49] <deetah> i've got a problem
[04:49] <deetah> how to change the language of my server's system?
[07:10] <ivoks> howdy
[07:16] <shawarma> back at you
[07:47] <ivoks> so... what can we do to make ubuntu server even better?


[11:34] <ethana2> How many gnome-globalmenu users here?
[15:12] <detrate> hello
[15:14] <detrate> Where can I find the people responsible for the art and interaction design with ubuntu studio?
[15:55] <holstein> morning detrate
[15:55] <holstein> i would suggest posing that question to the mailing list
[16:18] <detrate> I found the development channel and received some advice, thank you for your input though holstein
[16:22] <holstein> detrate: development channel?
[16:23] <detrate> #ubuntustudio-devel
[16:23] <holstein> no shit
[16:23] <detrate> indeed :)
[16:24] <holstein> maybe i'll refer to that one as the 'active channel' :)
[16:24] <holstein> we'll see
[16:24] <detrate> :-P
[18:35] <nr83895564> hi
[18:36] <nr83895564> i have a question concerning the package ubuntustudio-default-settings
[18:36] <nr83895564> i've read that this package edits the /etc/security/limits.conf appropriately. is it doing anything else which would be relevant in my case (i don't need the artwork, desktop theme, etc...)
[18:36] <nr83895564> does anybody know?
[18:40] <nr83895564> (i just have a standard ubuntu installation and would like to do audio stuff)
[18:44] <revchila> hi
[19:04] <jussi01> nr83895564: you doing audio work? or?
[19:04] <nr83895564> yes
[19:04] <nr83895564> just audio
[19:09] <jussi01> then youll probably want the audio packages as well as the rt kernel
[19:13] <nr83895564> yes, i'm currently installing those.
[19:13] <nr83895564> but do i need to install ubuntustudio-default-settings or is it sufficient to edit limits.conf manually?
[20:57] <funkyHat> Anyone know if the karmic -rt kernel has PAE?
[21:07] <marsilainen> funkyHat: not sure; if you are running it then I think it should tell you in /proc/cpuinfo
[21:07] <marsilainen> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep pae
[21:07] <funkyHat> I'm running 64 bit ⡈)
[21:10] <funkyHat> I found a bug confirming that it is not a PAE kernel though
[21:10] <marsilainen> ok
[21:10] <funkyHat> (I'm helping someone in #ubuntu)
[21:10] <marsilainen> the -rt kernel doesn't support SMP either :/
[21:13] <funkyHat> wat
[21:16] <marsilainen> fact
[21:16] <marsilainen> it only uses one cpu/core
[21:19] <funkyHat> This is on 32bit, right?
[21:23] <marsilainen> on anything...
[21:23] <marsilainen> AFAIK
[21:23] <funkyHat> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-rt/+bug/290498/comments/54
[21:23] <marsilainen> ahhhh ok
[21:24] <marsilainen> I take it back then!
[21:24] <funkyHat> Also looks pretty fixed here, Phenom II X4, I can see activity on all 4 cores in my conky thingy
[21:24] <funkyHat> hehe
[21:24] <marsilainen> nice
[21:24] <marsilainen> I understood that it was still the case, so I hadn't switched to the rt kernel
[21:24] <marsilainen> but I shall do now that I know that :)
[21:25] <funkyHat> This guy I was helping in #ubuntu was complaining that "pulsaudio is making all of my applications crash"
[21:25] <funkyHat> -_-
[21:25] <funkyHat> *pulseaudio
[21:25] <funkyHat> He was just trying to start jack in realtime mode with no -rt
[21:25] <marsilainen> heh ok
[21:26] <marsilainen> pulseaudio and jack don't go well together
[21:26] <funkyHat> And amsynth is apparently completely broken
[21:26] <marsilainen> note that in karmic when you run qjackctl it suspends pulseaudio
[21:26] <funkyHat> I've not had any problems in karmic, when jack starts pulseaudio just gets muted
[21:26] <funkyHat> Yeah
[21:26] <marsilainen> bit of a hack though
[21:27] <marsilainen> you're using qjackctl?
[21:27] <funkyHat> Yeah
[21:27] <marsilainen> qjackctl is now a script, which suspends pulseaudio and then calls qjackctl.bin
[21:27] <funkyHat> I recall reading somewhere that the plan is to have pulseaudio switch to using jack as an output when jack starts
[21:27] <funkyHat> haha, yuck
[21:27] <marsilainen> ;)
[21:28] <marsilainen> so anyone who starts jack in some other way may need to suspend pulseaudio themselves
[23:25] <tucemiux> tu
[23:27] <tucemiux> i am attempting to grant a user access to a partition using sshfs using public key, the user can log in to the server using ssh fine but the user gets this error when attempting to mount the drive using sshfs: read: Connection reset by peer


[00:25] <TJ-> tgm4883: see http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/  ... or for out-of-support packages, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/
[00:27] <tgm4883> TJ-, TheLordOfTime 12.04. It's not on either of those sites, although I found it on the kernel team PPA. I'm going to attempt using a newer version and seeing if that will resolve the issue I'm having
[00:27] <tgm4883> if not, I'll attempt the one from the PPA
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> tgm4883, i was going to link you to the archive for it
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> because i believe i could get those packages
[00:30] <TheLordOfTime> tgm4883, but why do you specifically need the linux-image-server package?
[00:30] <TheLordOfTime> i don't think there's a server-specific image now, but I might be wrong...
[00:30] <tgm4883> TheLordOfTime, not necessarily the server package, but that particular version number
[00:31] <tgm4883> I've got a test server and a production server. The test server works fine, but the production server doesn't work quite right when it comes to backing up the virtual machine, so I'm trying to make it identical to the test server (the previous admin didn't do that)
[00:33] <Patrickdk_> exactly, how do you backup the machine?
[00:34] <tgm4883> Patrickdk_, using a windows program called vm explorer. It uses the vmware API to backup the machine
[00:35] <TJ-> tgm4883: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/3248693/+listing-archive-extra
[00:35] <tgm4883> TJ-, awesome, I'll grab that. Thanks
[00:35] <Patrickdk_> funny, vmware has no backup api, only a cbl
[00:36] <tgm4883> Patrickdk_, we use this http://www.trilead.com/
[00:36] <Patrickdk_> ya, looking, I use veeam
[01:48] <dassouki> looking for a document collab and task management CMS of some sort for a group of 10 folks .. low budget so FOSS is ideal
[01:54] <soy_el_pulpo> dassouki: we are using asana, I think is free for less than 10
[01:55] <dassouki> ok
[01:55] <dassouki> does it include document sharing? and task management?
[01:56] <soy_el_pulpo> you can add documents to the proyects...
[01:56] <soy_el_pulpo> up to 15 users is free..
[01:56] <soy_el_pulpo> the good thing is that it has iOS and android app to keep you working on the road, they work very nicely
[01:56] <dassouki> does it work on the ipad you know?
[01:57] <soy_el_pulpo> documents per project, photos, etc...
[01:57] <soy_el_pulpo> we spent so much time looking for something...
[01:57] <soy_el_pulpo> also we tried social office form Liferay that I also liked, but my team has old-fashion people that cannot use "modern" tools very well... jeje
[01:58] <soy_el_pulpo> dassouki: take a look to it...
[01:58] <soy_el_pulpo> msg dassouki
[15:25] <zul> is there a python way of determining number of cpu threads?
[16:16] <brendan-> is there a way to find out when a specific package was added to the repos?
[16:16] <brendan-> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libssl1.0.0
[16:17] <brendan-> im building a debian package to for ruby & there's a dependency for libssl0.9.8 according to the script i came across, but im not sure if that dependency was as a result of when it was created (about 1yr ago) or for another reason
[16:19] <FunnyLookinHat> Hey guys - is there a reason that apache2-mpm-prefork is still the default?  I had thought that worker was the best means to take advantage of modern hardware ?
[16:22] <TJ-> FunnyLookinHat: Good question; it's down to PHP and some of the libraries it depends on not being thread-safe, but I've not been able to find a list of the supposedly unsafe libraries
[16:22] <FunnyLookinHat> Yeah - that's what I thought.
[16:22] <FunnyLookinHat> I asked in #httpd and got the usual "use worker but don't use mod_php" - which is more or less a PITA
[16:29] <TJ-> I installed php5 on a new 13.10 apache 2.4 install and it replace worker with prefork. I quickly reversed that, switched to event, and installed php5-fpm
[16:35] <patdk-wk> and?
[16:35] <patdk-wk> you should have install php5-fpm first, instead of plain php5
[16:35] <patdk-wk> plain php5 defaults to mod_php
[16:41] <ivoks> zul: there is
[16:41] <ivoks> zul: i remember doing that for one project
[16:41] <zul> ivoks:  cpu threads?
[16:42] <ivoks> give me a second to check, it was long long time ago
[16:43] <ivoks> multiprocessing.cpu_count()
[16:43] <ivoks> ah, just the number of cpus
[16:43] <ivoks> zul: ^
[16:45] <zul> ivoks:  yeah thats what i used ;)
[16:46] <TJ-> zul: ivoks: wouldn't a simple read of /proc/cpuinfo and then look at "siblings" and "cpu cores"?  see http://www.richweb.com/cpu_info
[16:47] <zul> TJ-:  thanks
[16:50] <TJ-> zul: also, look for the "ht" flag
[17:21] <Serhad> hey volks
[17:22] <Serhad> I got a question to commerce? How can I create a ney payment method like paying if the guy pick the product at my office
[17:22] <Serhad> ney = new
[17:22] <yolanda> jamespage, zuul https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/horizon/autokpgtests/+merge/182168
[17:22] <yolanda> sorry, zul.. . that's consequence of my CI work :)
[17:27] <jamespage> yolanda, comments on MP
[17:29] <yolanda> jamespage ok, i'll fix t
[17:32] <Serhad> sorry wrong chat...
[17:37] <yolanda> jamespage, updated mp
[21:37] <kurt_> how does one install the software in a bzr branch once its downloaded?
[21:38] <sarnold> kurt_: depends upon the software in question; bzr is just a source control system similar to git, mercurial, subversion, bitkeeper, perforce, etc.
[21:39] <kurt_> sarnold: I'm trying to install juju 1.12
[21:39] <kurt_> :)
[21:39] <sarnold> kurt_: aha! :) can you use their ppa? that will provide you with precompiled packages for several distributions and architectures and save you the hassle of building it yourself
[21:40] <kurt_> I could, sure… more googling ha ha
[21:40] <sarnold> kurt_: that'd be the add-apt-repository and following command here: https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/
[21:44] <kurt_> sarnold: too easy thanks.  seems this version doesn't support --version flag or -version flg
[21:44] <sarnold> kurt_: try just "juju version"?
[21:44] <sarnold> I've got a vague memory that something there was a bit goofy
[21:44] <kurt_> :) duh
[21:44] <kurt_> 1.12.0-quantal-amd64
[21:44] <kurt_> perfect!
[21:45] <kurt_> thank you sir
[21:45] <sarnold> woo, back to fighting your fight :) good luck! hehe
[21:45] <kurt_> yes indeed.  I'm sure you've been reading on juju list…. her hee
[21:46] <sarnold> kurt_: just irc, I try to not subscribe to too many lists, it's an easy wya to lose hours every day :)
[21:46] <kurt_> indeed and understood.  I appreciate your help. :)
[22:28] <koolhead17> hi all
[22:29] <arooni-mobile> trying to install nginx on ubuntu 12.04;  i have previously installed from source in /opt/nginx when running an older version of ubuntu.  how can i install correctly?  when i do sudo apt-get install nginx i see this https://gist.github.com/arooni/d27e1b6cc6443fcf4a4b
[22:34] <sarnold> arooni-mobile: yikes you've got a good problem there to solve. echo $PATH as root will probably give you different results than the actual environment that apt-get was executed with. try this instead: sudo env
[22:34] <arooni-mobile> sarnold, what about adding /sbin to roots path?
[22:35] <sarnold> arooni-mobile: ooh, note this too: "...chasetoys/.bashrc:10:PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:..."
[22:35] <arooni-mobile> sarnold, i updated root's path to add /sbin ... but doesnt seem to make a difference
[22:35] <sarnold> arooni-mobile: whatever you've currently got is also scribbling over the path you've got
[22:35] <arooni-mobile> sarnold, should i get rid of my users path additions?
[22:36] <sarnold> arooni-mobile: you should at least inspect them to make sure they make sense
[22:36] <arooni-mobile> havent messed with them for awhile
[22:36] <sarnold> arooni-mobile: I personally would be terrified to have a user's home directory contents in root's PATH anywhere, but that might be difficult to fix.
[22:37] <arooni-mobile> sarnold, i think i just copied thie bashrc file from my home laptop
[22:38] <arooni-mobile> the only thing i need is the ruby gem stuff
[22:39] <arooni-mobile> sarnold, i commented out all that stuff modfiying the $PATH


[00:14] <ls> how can i reattched the meta key being pressed for the application menu? i cannot seem to find it on shortcuts in system settings
[02:08] <mparillo> You could create a vault, and move your files there.
[02:57] <cheese> hello
 hello, I have to quickly install a Plasma-distro. It must be working well for the next 2 years at least. So between Fedora, Kubuntu-Jelly and KDEneon (if already available with 22.04 base
 hello, I have to quickly install a Plasma-distro. It must be working well for the next 2 years at least. So between Fedora, Kubuntu-Jelly and KDEneon (if already available with 22.04 base), what should I choose ?
[13:04] <Maik> @Technopat_Official only kubuntu is supported in this channel, Neon has their own support channel and group. But KDE Neon isn't based on 22.04 as of yet, they wait until July maybe August before they switch base. Kubuntu Jelly hasn't been release yet, that will happen on April 21. Fedora releases are only supported for 13 months.
 so Kubuntu-daily-build is stable enough to become a good 22.04 install ?
[13:08] <Maik> So i would wait until April until Kubuntu 22.04 comes out if you need a stable, daily to use LTS release or.... install Kubuntu 20.04 LTS and upgrade in July after the first point release of 22.04 has been released.
[13:09] <Maik> @Technopat_Official Kubuntu 22.04 LTS being still in development is not recommended to use as a daily driver on workstations
 even if I'm not bad in troubleshooting? (re @IrcsomeBot: <Maik> @Technopat_Official Kubuntu 22.04 LTS being still in development is not recommended to use as a daily driver on workstations)
 even if I'm not bad in troubleshooting?
 I'm playing with LMDE5-beta, I'm not afraid, it's already more stable than W10... (re @IrcsomeBot: <Maik> @Technopat_Official Kubuntu 22.04 LTS being still in development is not recommended to use as a daily driver on workstations)
[13:17] <Maik> You want a system that must be working well, so i gave you some options. Using 22.04 now on a workstation, which i think you need on a daily base, is not recommended.
[13:19] <Maik> if you just want to play around and test then you don't need a stable system.
[13:19] <Maik> choice is all yours
 thank you, you're right. On MY workstation I would try 22.04 but for my Mother... it's decided: Kubuntu 22.10 ! It's great and very mature now (re @IrcsomeBot: <Maik> You want a system that must be working well, so i gave you some options. Using 22.04 now on a workstation, which i think you need on a daily base, is not recommended.)
[13:22] <Maik> good luck and have fun
 mmmh...21.10 instead of 22.10 😅 I dont't have fun with Kubuntu, everything works it's boring 😂 (re @IrcsomeBot: <Maik> good luck and have fun)
[13:26] <Maik> Support for 21.10 ends in July
 yes, perfect time to switch to 22.04.1 ;) (re @IrcsomeBot: <Maik> Support for 21.10 ends in July)
[13:30] <Maik> your choice.... i'd still go with 20.04 LTS and then upgrade in July.
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Hi all


[09:25] <artnay> dpm: hi. 22:34     artnay : kelemengabor: do you happen to know what's the outcome of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/LanguagePackUpdatesQA 22:35     artnay : Signoff deadline: 17th of May 2012 1400 UTC Language pack version: 1:12.04+20120508 22:35     artnay : tested from -proposed, worked well, reported everything ok but the langpacks are still Version: 1:12.04+20120417
[09:33] <dpm> artnay, let me talk to pitti to upload them
[09:35] <artnay> dpm: great
[09:56] <dpm> artnay, <pitti> dpm: general and gnome packages are in; -kde pacakge copies are requested, but LP seems to take some time to think about them..
[09:56] <dpm> kelemengabor, ^
[09:56] <kelemengabor> great :)


[22:35] <Jordan_U> rr73: There was only one drive listed there that is not part of a FakeRAID array, and that is the one you're currently booted from.
[22:35] <x20twelve> so do i create the swap partition first?
[22:35] <jtee> jrib: it's parsing through my home directories looking for excludes... it's not anywhere near the end of the directories... just stuck
[22:35] <mib_mib> how do i make a script run at startup?
[22:35] <jrib> x20twelve: the easy way is to just delete the first partition so you have unallocated space and then tell the installer to use the unallocated space
[22:35] <erUSUL> mib_mib: call it from /etc/rc.local
[22:35] <rr73> im chrooted
[22:35] <jtee> jrib: it's probably easier to make a cron job that invokes rsync anyway
[22:35] <x20twelve> and that will leave the 2nd partition alone right?
[22:35] <x20twelve> just wanna be sure
[22:36] <jrib> jtee: ok.  Note, I really like rsnapshot
[22:36] <mib_mib> erUSUL: okay thanks
[22:36] <mib_mib> erUSUL: does this get run as root or which user
[22:36] <jtee> jrib: i'll take a look at it
[22:36] <Jordan_U> rr73: Can you pastebin the output of "mount" outside the chroot?
[22:36] <erUSUL> mib_mib: root
[22:36] <Abinadai> can someone tell me if this is going to work or not....I am putting a partition onto a USB drive which will be a boot partition.  It will also have an NTFS partition.  Will I be able to see the NTFS partition?  Can I boot to that same drive when there is another USB hung on the box?
[22:36] <jrib> x20twelve: the installer won't do anything without showing you what it wants to do and asking you if it's okay
[22:37] <huij> BiPolah, radiotray is limited because must to fill yourself the stations. I'm goin' to try tunapie
[22:37] <Abinadai> *USB drive
[22:37] <rr73> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/566097/
[22:37] <jrib> Abinadai: I don't see why not, but I've never done that myself
[22:37] <Jordan_U> Abinadai: If you set everything up correctly, yes. But what is your actual end goal?
[22:37] <x20twelve> ok ok. also on the screen im on right now, for formatting, it asks what i should format the partition as...ext4, ext3 etc..ntfs, also noticed an option called 'do not use partition'
[22:38] <mib_mib> erUSUL: so if i wanted to run memcached upon starting up, i would just add this line straight in there? /usr/bin/memcached -m 64 -p 11211 -u memcache -l <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:38] <huij> and rythmbox is interessant but I'd like a specialized software
[22:38] <brucec> hi. I'm having problems with a startup script, apparently because the network isn't ready. I have $network $remote_fs and $syslog in Required-Start - anyone have any ideas?
[22:38] <x20twelve> if i used the 'do not use partition' option would that set it as unallocated space?
[22:38] <Jordan_U> rr73: Good. Now run "update-initramfs -c -k all" within the chroot.
[22:38] <jrib> brucec: you created an upstart style job or an old sysv init one?
[22:39] <rr73> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/566098/
[22:39] <erUSUL> mib_mib: that woud work yes... but if it is a daemon i would take the time to writte ainit script for it in /etc/init.d/
[22:39] <jrib> x20twelve: no
[22:39]  * jtee printing out rsnapshot manual now
[22:39] <x20twelve> so what should i set it as?
[22:39] <brucec> jrib: it's a file in /etc/init.d - so old sysv init
[22:39] <erUSUL> mib_mib: it is weird that memcached does not come with one ( maybe you can find one in the net )
[22:39] <Abinadai> Jordan_U, I'm retooling my Maverick installation because it cannot see a 244 GB NTFS partition on my internal drive.  So, I decided that i would just put the installation on a 1TB USB drive that I have.
[22:39] <jrib> x20twelve: what is "it" in your sentence?
[22:39] <x20twelve> ext4 and swap are among the options
[22:40] <x20twelve> 'it' is referring to what the drive is going to be used as after the HD is formatted
[22:40] <jrib> brucec: well that just runs according to the numbering scheme you give it.  If you want to explicitly wait for things like network, then you want to create an upstart job.  If you don't want to create an upstart job, then you need to have your script start later (using a higher number)
[22:40] <BiPolah> x20twelve: ext4 is what you want to set your actual file system as, swap is what you set your swap partition as
[22:40] <x20twelve> well after the partition is formatted
[22:40] <Jordan_U> Abinadai: What specifically "cannot see" it? How are you trying to access the partition?
[22:40] <TheAnarchist> Got an error, FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/... (added "..." because there is too much more to type)..... and now it says busybox v1.15.3
[22:40] <mib_mib> erUSUL: thanks!
[22:41] <TheAnarchist> While installing Netbook remix 10.10 on a NB205 Toshiba
[22:41] <x20twelve> yes i understand the significance of ext4 and swap. maybe i should just format as ntfs, then make 2 partitions out of it, then format one as ext4 and the other as swap
[22:41] <Jordan_U> rr73: That's odd. What is the output of "update-initramfs -c -k all; echo $?"?
[22:41] <x20twelve> just thought there would have been a quicker way around it
[22:41] <jrib> x20twelve: you format partitions, not drives.  You want to format a partition as ext4 and tell ubuntu to use it as /.  And have another partition for swap.  Whatever else you do on the drive, ubuntu doesn't care.  Like I said, if this is confusing just have unallocated space set aside for ubuntu and tell the installer to set itself up using the unallocated space
[22:42] <rr73> Jordan_U: '0'
[22:42] <Abinadai> Jordan_U, For some reason, Mavirick is seeing the boot drive of my (NTFS) Windows 7 partition, but not the empty NTFS partition that I set up for the use of data storage for windows 7 and maverick
[22:42] <yabuk> how do I run a command as root on startup?
[22:42] <erUSUL> yabuk: /etc/rc.local
[22:42] <TheAnarchist> While installing Netbook remix 10.10 on a NB205 Toshiba I got an error.... any ideas?
[22:42] <jrib> yabuk: what command?
[22:42] <brucec> jrib: ah ok. Thanks
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Abinadai: What specifically "cannot see" it? How are you trying to access the partition?
[22:42] <jrib> TheAnarchist: run "check the cd for defects"
[22:42] <x20twelve> yu keep saying to have unallocated space set aside, but what is not being communicated is how i actually set that space aside
[22:42] <TheAnarchist> how?
[22:42] <BiPolah> x20twelve: I could help you using something like Teamviewer if you don't understand
[22:43] <TheAnarchist> it's USB version
[22:43] <TheAnarchist> downloaded straight from ubuntu.com
[22:43] <Pumpkin-> yabuk: several methods, but /etc/rc.local or @reboot in crontab are recommended.
[22:43] <Jordan_U> rr73: Then it hopefully has still worked. Try booting from the external again.
[22:43] <x20twelve> i dont think teamviewer would work to the livecd enviro
[22:43] <TheAnarchist> FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/... (added "..." because there is too much more to type)..... and now it says busybox v1.15.3
[22:43] <jrib> TheAnarchist: there should be an option when you first boot from the install media
[22:43] <TheAnarchist> It also says gave up waiting for root device
[22:43] <x20twelve> or would it?
[22:43] <rr73> Jordan_U: i cant umount /mnt
[22:43] <BiPolah> Well, Remote Desktop Viewer might work, but
[22:43] <TheAnarchist> Okay, let me reboot to usb
[22:44] <Jordan_U> rr73: Just shut down. Everything will be properly unmounted when you shut down.
[22:44] <Abinadai> Jordan_U, Maverick, for some reason that I cannot fathom is not mounting that empty partition on bootup.  I also have the problem that because of that, DropBox is loading data onto my Maverick boot partiton.  I just discovered that last night.
[22:44] <jrib> x20twelve: the same way you created your existing partition, delete it
[22:44] <rr73> Jordan_U: shutdown my desktop? :/
[22:44] <jrib> x20twelve: if you're on the live cd, you could use gparted.  Or just do it manually, it's your choice.
[22:44] <BiPolah> x20twelve: Are you trying to install alongside another OS or are you using an entire drive?
[22:45] <x20twelve> i didnt create the partition. im installin ubuntu on a clients computer cuz im making them switch to ubuntu
[22:45] <TheAnarchist> O.O
[22:45] <rr73> Jordan_U: id im not booting from my desktop, im trying to boot from laptop
[22:45] <TheAnarchist> I don't see it jrib?
[22:45] <tuzlo> jrib, where do I get the md5 checksum for the version im runnning?
[22:45] <jrib> !md5sum | tuzlo
[22:45] <jrib> ugh
[22:45] <Jordan_U> rr73: Exit the chroot (with "exit") then run "sudo umount -a".
[22:45] <rww> !md5sum
[22:45] <jrib> !md5sums | tuzlo
[22:45] <romistrub> okay so I'm tired of searching google for this -- I have no idea what to search for! What does the < <( xxxxxx ) do to xxxxxx?
[22:46] <romistrub> and what do I search to find information on that? lol
[22:46] <rr73> says all are busy
[22:46] <x20twelve> i have a drive thats partitioned into 2, of which the second partition is a backup of docs, pics, music etc. the first partition, needs to be formatted, and installed upon, while leaving the backup partition alone so i can access it after installation
[22:46] <dextro_> how do you check how much ram a ramdisk is using? du -sh /ramdisk reports the filesystem size but not actual ram usage, df -k doesnt show ramfs either just tmpfs
[22:46] <rr73> Jordan_U: okay ill restart
[22:46] <Jordan_U> rr73: Can you pastebin the exact error message?
[22:46] <rr73> Jordan_U: things are screwey
[22:46] <romistrub> and PS: does anybody know if there are any tools on the web to search for syntax (i.e. special chars)?
[22:46] <erUSUL> romistrub: it runs xxxxx and then creates a file with the output that is then redirected to some other command you omited
[22:46] <tuzlo> ok, checksum is right,
[22:47] <Jordan_U> rr73: No need, but if you want to do it that way it's fine.
[22:47] <romistrub> erUSUL: thanks a bajillion, what are the keywords to search for in Google?
[22:47] <tuzlo> do I need different iso to put ubuntu on a dell poweredge 1850?
[22:47] <jrib> romistrub: you can read about "Process Substitution" in bash documentation
[22:47] <erUSUL> romistrub: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ProcessSubstitution
[22:47] <romistrub> thank you!!!
[22:47] <rr73> Jordan_U: it says /var/run,/dev/shm/,/dev etc ... device is busy
[22:48] <rr73> Jordan_U: i hit ctrl-D instead of type exit is that okay?
[22:48] <Jordan_U> rr73: Yes, that's fine. And as long as /mnt/ is no longer mounted you should be fine removing it as well.
[22:48] <jrib> romistrub: by the way, in the future, when you come across something like that, it's far easier to search a man page (man bash) for symbols than it is to google for them :)
[22:48] <romistrub> man bash ... sounds like fun :) ... thanks jrib
[22:49] <yabuk> erUSUL, thank you. jrib: logkeys --start
[22:49] <NewUbuntu> what is this metasploit framework installed in my ubuntu? is this fine running on my machine?
[22:49] <rr73> Jordan_U: maybe the usb drivers werent installed in init/grub? is that what your thinking?
[22:49] <jrib> yabuk: logkeys comes with /etc/init.d/logkeys.  It probably starts automatically, or has some easy configuration option to do so (in /etc/default/logkeys most likely)
[22:50] <Jordan_U> rr73: The USB drivers were not included in the initramfs.
[22:50] <Jordan_U> rr73: Which is neither init, nor grub.
[22:50] <rr73> Jordan_U: ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/# does not exist
[22:51] <rr73> can i try to manually boot?
[22:51] <jrib> TheAnarchist: there may be some button for "more boot options" or similar
[22:51] <tuzlo> ok, maybe im askin the wrong questions. I have a i386 distro of Ubuntu 10.10 will that install on a dell poweredge 1850 with dual scsi's
[22:51] <jrib> tuzlo: you might try the alternate cd
[22:51] <jrib> !alternate | tuzlo
[22:52] <Jordan_U> rr73: There is likely nothing you can do to manually boot.
[22:52] <tuzlo> alternate?
[22:53] <rr73> Jordan_U: you were right :-P
[22:53] <beachbum_Bob> please help
[22:53] <Supertanker> Uh, Ubuntu Netbook Remix seems to really be dislikeing my IBM Thinkpad T43 with an ATI X300 in it. With modesetting on, it boots to a plain desktop (the "lense flares" and doesn't do anything else--mouse still works, contorl+alt+delete lets me shut down with the menu. With no modesetting, it alternates between the desktop and a really peculiar screen with a black blox about 1/4th of the screen in the upper left and an alternating sequence o
[22:54] <Supertanker> Um, should Ij ust stick with Ubuntu 1.10?
[22:54] <Supertanker> 10.10 even
[22:56] <beachbum_Bob> how do i get rid of winXP mbr so i can install U10.10  or  Ustudio from a Linux pendrive....PS even killdisk doesn't work
[22:56] <v1rati> I want to run a command recursively in a folder. How do I do that?
[22:56] <jrib> v1rati: use find with -exec.  What do you want to do exactly?
[22:56] <tuzlo> ok, since I am slapping this on a dell poweredge, will the i386 iso suffice?
[22:57] <rr73> Jordan_U: thanks for your help
[22:57] <taroven> Having an odd sound issue in a fairly fresh 10.10 install... My primary sound card is detected fine by alsa/pulse and pavucontrol indicates that sound is being played, but there's no audio at all. I've also got a USB headset, which works perfectly. Any ideas?
[22:57] <jrib> beachbum_Bob: when you install ubuntu, it will install grub
[22:57] <v1rati> jrib: Mass rename all the files on my external HD with
[22:57] <v1rati> jrib: with "rename -v 's/[\/:*?"<>|]/_/g' *"
[22:57] <erUSUL> v1rati: only files?
[22:58] <jrib> v1rati: you could use find with -exec.  Or you could use **/* instead of * (make sure you do that IN THE RIGHT DIRECTORY)
[22:58] <tuzlo> jrib, since I am slapping this on a dell poweredge, will the i386 iso suffice?
[22:58] <beachbum_Bob> thanks  jrib....unable to boot pendrive
[22:58] <jrib> tuzlo: sure, if that's the version you want
[22:58] <v1rati> erUSUL: Files and folders. I'm trying to get rid of the illegal characters that Windows is whining about. (|?:, etc.)
[22:58] <erUSUL> v1rati: find dir/ -exec rename -v 's/[\/:*?"<>|]/_/g' {} +
[22:58] <tuzlo> jrib, I want one running, not sure if thats the best fopr thathardware
[22:58] <jrib> beachbum_Bob: so your issue is that you can't actually boot the pen drive?
[22:59] <beachbum_Bob> yes jrib   thanks
[22:59] <halvor> hello
[22:59] <jrib> tuzlo: I'm not familiar with the hardware.  How much ram?
[22:59] <tuzlo> been so long, I cant remember
[22:59] <jrib> tuzlo: if you have 4gb+, you probably want the amd64 version, otherwise i386 is okay
[22:59] <tuzlo> I think 1 Gb, dual 3 Ghz processors
[23:00] <systm> can any one recommend a good lite weight text pad, with syntax highlighting?
[23:00] <tuzlo> is 11.04 in testing?
[23:00] <jrib> systm: gedit
[23:00] <jrib> tuzlo: 11.04 is still being developed
[23:00] <tuzlo> thought so
[23:01] <tuzlo> ok
[23:01] <systm> jrib: my bad, I didn't get that highlighting was the same as syntax, thank you!
[23:01] <jrib> beachbum_Bob: I guess that's usually something you setup in your bios
[23:02] <tobiasz> hi, new flash player 10.2 doesn't provide hardware acceleration as it was promised to do, and the performance went downhill, anyone know something?
[23:02] <v1rati> erUSUL: Perfect. Thanks. :)
[23:03] <NewUbuntu> what is this metasploit framework installed in my ubuntu? is this fine running on my machine?
[23:03] <cokrail> S.a :)
[23:03] <jrib> NewUbuntu: well it's a piece of software you installed.  Not sure what you are asking
[23:03] <beachbum_Bob> i've changed bboot sequence in f2  and even tried to highlighting external feature of f12
[23:03] <BiPolah> NewUbuntu, it's a security penetration testing thing
[23:04] <NewUbuntu> i was not the one who installed, can some connect to my computer without me knowing?
[23:04] <wafflesausage> exit
[23:04] <Pumpkin-> or more worryingly, its a bit of software someone else installed
[23:04] <jrib> NewUbuntu: that software isn't installed by default
[23:05] <NewUbuntu> yeah, because i payed someone to install ubuntu on my pc
[23:05] <BiPolah> NewUbuntu: just uninstall it
[23:05] <NewUbuntu> then i saw this metassploit
[23:05] <jrib> NewUbuntu: then ask this person about it
[23:05] <BiPolah> NewUbuntu: sudo apt-get remove w3af
[23:05] <avinash_> I am unable to use my head phones in my ubuntu. There is no sound in them. my laptop is dell inspiron. can any one help me with this
[23:06] <erUSUL> !intelhda | avinash_
[23:06] <BiPolah> Avinash: Does your laptop have built-in speakers that are working?
[23:06] <LasNote> hiya, does anyone know how I install "spots-ebones"?
[23:07] <nikhow> bonsoir tout le monde
[23:07] <LasNote> it's supposedly some java add-on but I don't see a package for it anywhere
[23:07] <avinash_> @Bipolah: yeah speakers are working
[23:08] <erUSUL> !fr | nikhow
[23:08] <TheAnarchist> Is something wrong with my HD I installed linux on?
[23:08] <halvor> hello
[23:09] <TheAnarchist> I ran fdisk -i
[23:09] <mparadise>
[23:09] <TheAnarchist> got this: http://pastebin.com/Hf3kttMc
[23:09] <mparadise> *d
[23:09] <mparadise> oops
[23:09] <FloodBot2> mparadise: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <TheAnarchist> fdisk -l I mean
[23:09] <TheAnarchist> xD
[23:10] <LasNote> This: svn checkout http://java.net/projects/spots-ebones/svn/spots-ebones/trunk - is asking for options, and I can't figure out what options to give it, it looks right to me, ideas?
[23:12] <avinash_> BiPolah, only the built in speakers are working , head phones aren't working
[23:12] <BiPolah> LasNote: Are you running svn through terminal? use svn --help for options
[23:13] <anthony_> o.o
[23:13] <anthony_> xDxD
[23:14] <LasNote> BiPolah, Actually I just want spot-ebones but I can;t figure out for the life of me how to get it into my macine, heh
[23:14] <BiPolah> avinash_: Perhaps you've disabled your line-out, or your drivers aren't working correctly
[23:14] <avinash_> BiPolah, How do i reinstall the drivers?
[23:15] <iceroot_> what is the common technologie for mounting a directory from another linux-pc in a lan (100mbit/s) sshfs, nfs, samba/cifs? maybe something other?
[23:15] <erUSUL> nfs is the classic more performant file sharing for unix
[23:16] <iceroot_> erUSUL: but nfs doesnt support user-based auth?
[23:16] <kgunpowder> I'm back with another issue.
[23:16] <erUSUL> iceroot_: it supports unix permissions
[23:16] <kgunpowder> How do I start Ubuntu without using my NVidia 6150 LE card again?
[23:16] <torrancew> iceroot_: host-based auth, unix file perms, on nfs
[23:16] <iceroot_> erUSUL: on the other pc the uids are not the same
[23:16] <kgunpowder> I think it used to be --nomodeset
[23:17] <erUSUL> iceroot_: yeah that's the classic problem... uid's have to be in sync between machines...
[23:17] <erUSUL> iceroot_: go for cifs then?
[23:18] <kgunpowder> How do I boot Ubuntu without relying on my graphics card? (Blank screen)
[23:18] <iceroot_> erUSUL: as i see nfs (version4) is supporting user based auth like cifs
[23:19] <LasNote> Is anyone here running Eagle PCB designer under Linux? thanks
[23:19] <iceroot_> LasNote: a windows-app?
[23:19] <kgunpowder> Can anyone help me boot Linux? I have an NVidia 6150 LE graphics card on my motherboard.
[23:19] <g_0_0> LasNote, I have done, not recently though
[23:19] <Suit_Of_Sables> I have a sansa fuze with rockbox installed. I can't seem to get write permission on the damn thing though so I can transfer some music over with rsync. I mount with 'sudo mount /dev/sdb -w /mnt/point'  I have chowned the mount point but I can't do it do the device's directories when mounted as it is vfat and doesn't use standard unix permissions. any ideas?
[23:20] <ChrisWere> there's a program which is using up all my upload bandwidth but i don't know what it is, how do i find out?
[23:20] <LasNote> ice799, : it has a linux installer, and installs right, but cannot open any of the files it should be able too. I think it needs a library it's not getting but I can;t figure out how to get that library
[23:20] <LasNote> the only info I find it "Spot-Ebones" but that makes no sense to me
[23:20] <kgunpowder> Can anyone help me boot ubuntu?
[23:20] <BiPolah> Lasnote: you can get eagle through the software centre
[23:20] <BiPolah> LasNote: sudo apt-get install eagle
[23:21] <milamber> !ext3 | Suit_Of_Sables
[23:21] <ChrisWere> what can i do?
[23:21] <BiPolah> kgunpowder: How exactly do you need help?
[23:21] <g_0_0> LasNote, have you already designed the board?
[23:21] <kgunpowder> BiPolah: I have an NVidia 6150 LE card, booting Ubuntu will give me a blank screen, can't recall what the change in code was.
[23:21] <halvor> hey, anyone has some knowledge about tcl/tk?
[23:22] <g_0_0> LasNote, are you using the free version - as there are limitation - two signal layers only, and board area is limited
[23:22] <BiPolah> kgunpowder: So it was working before? Have you tried booting in recovery mode?
[23:22] <nejode> kgunpowder: boot with the "nomodeset" kernel param
[23:23] <LasNote> BiDOrD, : yeah, same problem with that version too
[23:23] <ChrisWere> how do i find out which process is useing all my band width?
[23:23] <Abinadai> can someone tell me if GRUB 2 will recognize that I've installed a new Maverick installation automatically and add it to the list of OS's that I want to access?
[23:23] <kgunpowder> nejode: How exactly? I've put "--nomodeset" after quiet splash, on it, without the dashes, with the dashes on it.
[23:23] <linuxdude21> hey all need help with alias command: alias ip='ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | awk '{print $2}''
[23:23] <LasNote> g_0_0, : yes, downloaded files, and the free version can open anything someone else made just not edit it
[23:24] <th0r> ChrisWere: iftop?
[23:24] <molmox> kurwa
[23:24] <kgunpowder> BiPolah: nejode: I know I've done it before, just don't remember the lines and where to put them.  nejode has the idea, but where in the boot code?
[23:24] <nejode> kgunpowder: erase quiet & splash and add nomodeset before de double dash... leaving a space
[23:25] <nejode> kgunpowder: xxx nomodeset --
[23:25] <kgunpowder> nejode: "de  quietsplash" = "de  --nomodeset"?
[23:25] <kgunpowder> Ah, okay, will try.  If it doesn't work I won't be gone for long.
[23:25] <brokendatapoint> hi, using U10.10, have multiple machines on home network, i can ssh from all machines to each other, yet can ping. why is this?
[23:26] <g_0_0> LasNote, if you start it from the terminal what error if any do you get?
[23:26] <brokendatapoint> yet *cannot* ping?
[23:26] <erUSUL> brokendatapoint: firewall blocking pings? what error do you get from ping ?
[23:26] <hellyeah> hey
[23:26] <LasNote> g_0_0, : the program gives no errors, only opening brd and sch files, which are in invalid formats
[23:26] <hellyeah> how to become chroot on ubuntu
[23:26] <hellyeah> with gentoo way is it same
[23:27] <variable> Does the "windows installer" install the linux-on-windows thing or does it install a dualboot ubuntu ?
[23:27] <iceroot_> hellyeah: mount the drive and use chroot . on the mounted drive
[23:27] <brokendatapoint> erUSUL: internal, no firewalls => Destination Host Unreachable
[23:27] <th0r> brokendatapoint: wifi network?
[23:27] <erUSUL> brokendatapoint: o.0
[23:27] <Vustom> How do I install mesa-utils? PlayOnLinux is asked for it when I launch it
[23:27] <erUSUL> !software | Vustom
[23:28] <__cdecl> Hi. Is checkinstall a good tool to create a package for my personal use?
[23:28] <Blue1> variable: NO IT does not install dual boot
[23:28] <variable> Blue1: what does it install ?
[23:28] <erUSUL> brokendatapoint: routing problem? « ip route » output may help
[23:29] <computer13137> Does anyone have any experience  traffic shaping with TCNG?  I'm attempting to configure it and I'm running into some issues... I could benefit from somebody who's used it before and knows a little of the syntax better than I do.
[23:29] <Blue1> Vustom: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[23:29] <Vustom> thanks
[23:29] <Blue1> variable: it installs entirely under windows and runs entirely under windows
[23:29] <__cdecl> Do I have to ask stupid question here to get an attendtion?
[23:29] <brokendatapoint> erUSUL: would not have thought so but hey, looking
[23:29] <variable> Blue1: what's the point? the software ?
[23:29] <torrancew> computer13137: TCNG? as in "tc next generation"?
[23:29] <computer13137> torrancew, yes.
[23:30] <ChrisWere> i can find tout what process is using all my bandwisth
[23:30] <variable> __cdecl: yes
[23:30] <brokendatapoint> __cdecl: you just did...
[23:30] <Blue1> variable: no risk linux - if you don't like it, simply uninstall it.
[23:30] <ChrisWere> i think ive got a virus
[23:30] <torrancew> computer13137: I've not used it, but I'm going to look into it ASAP - I don't feel like dealing with the chicken sacrifices that tc requires
[23:30] <brokendatapoint> ChrisWere: go to the doctor and stopping touching it....
[23:30] <__cdecl> brokendatapoint a question about building own packages is stupid?
[23:30] <computer13137> torrancew, PM?
[23:30] <torrancew> sure
[23:30] <variable> ChrisWere: did you run an anti-virus program? Also - what makes you think you have a virus.   (I'm running a *nix installfest so I want to know what exactly this would be doing)
[23:31] <brokendatapoint> __cdecl: no but you are rude, did not see it
[23:31] <__cdecl> 0:27:59 < __cdecl> Hi. Is checkinstall a good tool to create a package for my  personal use?
[23:32] <Blue1> variable: what are you trying to accomplish, maybe that is the more germain question?
[23:32] <__cdecl> Here you are. Thanks for the answer to this question in advance
[23:32] <variable> chrisdev: NetHogs ?
[23:32] <13WAA4RXZ> how do i play a wav file from command line.  how do i play audio from command line?
[23:33] <th0r> 13WAA4RXZ: install sox...it includes the command line 'play' command
[23:33] <slide> Does anyone know of a way to test upload/download bandwidth via console? (on a headless server)
[23:33] <thev3rn> i tried to removed the bluetooth support in ubuntu 10.10 rebooted and now I have no wireless network.. any advise?
[23:33] <variable> Blue1: I have three disks to offer my users (a) PC-BSD x64 (b) PC-BSD x32 and (c) Ubuntu. I'm trying to figure out if the windows installer is a "less risky" version of windows that still gives one that experience
[23:33] <variable> slide: fetch? wget? curl?
[23:33] <__cdecl> brokendatapoint I'm sorry for my missbehaviour, but I nearly never get an answer, because people are focused on something trivial like "how to turn the volume up"
[23:33] <brokendatapoint> __cdecl: if it is only for your use, and is *not* going out into the wider Ubuntu community, yes
[23:33] <brokendatapoint> __cdecl: is ok, i get your frustration
[23:33] <slide> variable, i can use wget for down, but ive no idea how to test upload as I have no where to upload
[23:34] <Blue1> variable: I've no idea you'd have to make that determination for yourself.  the first 2 i've never heard of but that's just me.
[23:34] <variable> slide: ah - you might want to fix that ☺    also measuring upload/download speeds is a bad way to measure quality though
[23:34] <Abinadai> can someone tell me if GRUB 2 will recognize that I've installed a new Maverick installation automatically and add it to the list of OS's that I want to access?
[23:34] <slide> anyway thats not helpful at all...
[23:34] <variable> Blue1: I don't have a windows box to test on. and I think installing it under wine would be silly
[23:34] <Blue1> Abinadai: it should be there's a way to make it do that.
[23:34] <__cdecl> brokendatapoint ok so it's a good tool to install my eg my own gcc build without f* up the packet managment system?
[23:35] <torrancew> Abinadai: try "update-grub2" as root
[23:35] <variable> slide: in order to test upload you need a place to upload to....
[23:35] <Blue1> variable: you don't install wubi under wine, you install wubi under windows
[23:35] <slide> woah REALLY?!?!?!
[23:35] <slide> OMFG
[23:35] <slide> *head asplodes*
[23:35] <Blue1> variable: if you have no windows then wubi is moot
[23:35] <__cdecl> brokendatapoint anyway thanks for your answer.
[23:35] <variable> Blue1: its not for *me*
[23:35] <Abinadai> Blue1, what is the way to manually do it in case I try update-grub2?
[23:35] <brokendatapoint> i think so but when you do a system wide update, your custom gcc might mess things up
[23:36] <variable> Blue1: I'm trying to figure out what sort of experience is provides so I might be able to offer it at the installfest I'm running
[23:36] <variable> so just because *I* don't own a box doesn't mean its moot
[23:36] <Blue1> Abinadai: http://pkill-9.com/?p=314
[23:36] <__cdecl> brokendatapoint is it true that dist upgrade is dangerous?
[23:36] <__cdecl> brokendatapoint ie I've heard that it can make a huge mess.
[23:36] <Abinadai> Blue1, thanks
[23:37] <Blue1> variable: sorry I can't help you.  if your not using windows, then you'd have to deice on which *nix distro to try.
[23:37] <brokendatapoint> __cdecl: it can be, but is generally OK ... but as you know s**t happens sometimes
[23:37] <milamber> slide: google for iftop
[23:37] <slide> milamber, thanks
[23:37] <Blue1> Abinadai: welcome
[23:37] <variable> Blue1: alright - thanks for your help otherwise. I'm perfectly fine with FreeBSD but I doubt that would be a good *first* choice.
[23:38] <__cdecl> brokendatapoint that's why i want to build something myself, to delay the dist upgrade until summer holidays :)
[23:38] <brokendatapoint> __cdecl: personally unless you are doing a dist-upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10, i'd grab another .iso of the target version and instal that, play it safe unless you know how to get around package brokiness
[23:38] <brokendatapoint> __cdecl: fair enough
[23:38] <Blue1> variable: why not give them a ubuntu live cd?  that's also risk free
[23:38] <__cdecl> brokendatapoint i have 9.10, old but well...
[23:38] <variable> Blue1: hrm - that's smart - maybe I'll make a few of those.
[23:38] <linuxdude21> Hey all, can someone fix my alias command: alias ip='ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | awk '{print $2}''
[23:39] <variable> linux_probe: don't use awk & grep - they can work together
[23:39] <alpha7> Is there anyway limit my download speed
[23:39] <variable> I mean linuxdude21
[23:39] <torrancew> linuxdude21: you have 's inside of 's
[23:39] <brokendatapoint> __cdecl: if you do not mind the potential for ugliness, have time to give to recify and do not mind your system being out of action, dist-upgrade from there but be warned, it may go bad, it may not
[23:39] <torrancew> either switch one to "s
[23:39] <torrancew> or escape the inner set with \'
[23:39] <milamber> variable: you can order free cds from ubuntu (if you have enough time before your event)
[23:39] <Blue1> variable: they can try it without installing it, see how it works.  and if they don't like it simply remove the cd and reboot, and it;s gone.  otoh, if they want to install it,  they will have the option to do so.  and it lives peacefully alongside windows.
[23:39] <__cdecl> brokendatapoint but what kind of things could happen, some packages boroken, broken config files, no kernel image, grub f* up?
[23:40] <variable> linuxdude21: alias ip='ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | cut -d ' ' -f 2    or alias ip='ifconfig eth0 | awk " /inet/ {print $2}"'
[23:40] <brokendatapoint> __cdecl: yes, some of that, you never know, is half the fun
[23:40] <variable> milamber: oh nice! where?  I have about 2 weeks - will that be enough time?
[23:40] <reavengrey> Done with the wine thing
[23:40] <reavengrey> The game works nicely now, thanks
[23:40] <milamber> !shipit | variable
[23:40] <variable> Blue1: does it do the dualboot automatically that's kind of cool?
[23:41] <__cdecl> brokendatapoint what's what i dislike about ubuntu, the development discontinuity :)
[23:41] <brokendatapoint> __cdecl: i have bandwidth/cap to burn, i'd just get a 10.10.iso and do that but do what you feel happy with
[23:41] <Blue1> variable: the grub menu sill come if (assuming both os installed) and it let's you choose windows or linux
[23:41] <brokendatapoint> __cdecl: we are talking about Ubuntu, not Windows right?
[23:41] <__cdecl> brokendatapoint yes, why?
[23:41] <brokendatapoint> haha, never mind
[23:41] <variable> Blue1: cool. - I mean does the installer do the re partitioning automatically or does one lose their data
[23:42] <Blue1> variable: it can automagically do the partitioning if directed to do so
[23:42] <variable> Blue1: nice!
[23:42] <brokendatapoint> why did you say "development discontinuity"? Ubuntu rocks with it's development/support compared to most other GNU/Linux
[23:43] <variable> milamber: is two weeks enough time?
[23:43] <Blue1> okay off to dinner
[23:43] <variable> thank you very much Blue1
[23:43] <zorael> Anyone here a wiz at optimizing an ext4 partition to reside on a non-lvm software raid0 stripe? Wondering about stride and stripe-width.
[23:43] <variable> have fun with the food
[23:43] <brokendatapoint> anyone know the quick way to add an Application Launcher into Unity?
[23:43] <milamber> variable: not sure. i used to get them in about that timeframe but i haven't had to order a mass quantity in a while. probably be better off asking someone associated w/ the service
[23:43] <linuxdude21> variable: but  ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | awk '{print $2}'    works the way i want
[23:44] <linuxdude21> variable: but need that in an alias
[23:44] <__cdecl> brokendatapoint and with checkinstall as I udnestand, I can generate a deb file for something i.e. firefox and instal it with dpkg and it will perfectly substitiute the orginal one except for dependency checking?
[23:44] <variable> linuxdude21: awk is too powerful for what you need. either remove the grep and use only awk; or replace awk with cut :-)
[23:45] <__cdecl> brokendatapoint oaky thanks for everything and usefull advices.
[23:45] <brokendatapoint> __cdecl: as far as I understand, yes, goto
[23:45] <linuxdude21> variable: that may be.  so awk is what is giving me problems not the alias
[23:45] <brokendatapoint> __cdecl: http://www.asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/docs/README
[23:45] <brokendatapoint> __cdecl: urw
[23:46] <Blue1> variable: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6137810&l=a9c6e8b22a&id=584367747
[23:46] <variable> linuxdude21: you could use the alias with the awk as torrancew told you above.
[23:46] <variable> I was giving you a different hint :-)
[23:46] <romistrub> DAE think that knowing how to use Google, IRC, man/vi, are probably the most important skills in learning linux? :P
[23:46] <variable> romistrub: vi is nice but not critical; Google and man are the most important
[23:47] <linuxdude21> variable: oh sorry i didn't see torrancew post
[23:47] <variable> Blue1: ☺
[23:47] <fdsaseemslegit> romistrub, You forgot asking questions.
[23:47] <Vixie> I'd wager learning to use the keyboard more than the mouse helps...
[23:47] <romistrub> variable: I only say "vi" to search man-pages haha
[23:47] <variable> romistrub: use less to use search the man pages
[23:47] <variable> type '/' and then your query
[23:47] <romistrub> variable: can you reword that? confused!
[23:48] <variable> romistrub: less (a pager) has built in search
[23:48] <romistrub> variable: interesting!
[23:49] <linuxdude21> sorry i cant find torrancew message
 linuxdude21: you have 's inside of 's <torrancew> either switch one to "s<torrancew> or escape the inner set with \'
[23:49] <variable> linuxdude21: either way I would switch the awk for cut though or replace the grep with awk
[23:51] <brandon420> heyy guys, my ram useage keeps going up with my uptime.......
[23:51] <romistrub> I honestly can't even imagine how people learned linux before the internet ...
[23:51] <maco> brucec: firefox open?
[23:51] <maco> romistrub: man man
[23:51] <brandon420> im not doing anything different, but when i check it, it keeps going up
[23:52] <induz> what is a good application to conver to MP3 on Ubuntu
[23:52] <erUSUL> romistrub: books and included docs ;P
[23:52] <erUSUL> induz: from ?
[23:52] <g_> hi, i'm trying to use a specific font in an eps, but the font isn't showing up in evince. how do i fix this?
[23:52] <induz> I have banshee but it is just a player
[23:52] <erUSUL> induz: it has a cdextract plugin
[23:52] <maco> induz: ffmpeg is hte usual for video & audio file conversions
[23:52] <brokendatapoint> induz: from what?
[23:52] <erUSUL> induz: i use soundjuicer though
[23:52] <romistrub> I heard there was some sort of paper internet and the internet boxes could fit *people*
[23:53] <brokendatapoint> romistrub: hahaha
[23:53] <induz> to MP3 from a CD
[23:53] <induz> I want to play it on my MP3 player but I need a converter
[23:53] <linuxdude21> neither way works
[23:53] <yoho> Hello, I'm trying to understand how NetworkManager obtains the nameserver
[23:54] <linuxdude21>  alias ip='ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | awk  \' {print $2}' '
[23:54] <torrancew> yoho: if you don't understand, it's probably using DHCP
[23:54] <erUSUL> yoho: either from the dhcp server if it offers it or from the user
[23:54] <linuxdude21> which i have tried
[23:54] <romistrub> and people had to bring the internet *back* when they were done with it --- now that is strange
[23:54] <romistrub> :)
[23:55] <variable> brandon420: free memory is wasted memory
[23:55] <torrancew> linuxdude21: what was the failed alias again?
[23:55] <torrancew> the scrollback is out of hand in here ;)
[23:56] <variable> torrancew: grep :-
[23:56] <erUSUL> romistrub: we all used rfc1149 back in the day
[23:56] <erUSUL> romistrub: high latency
[23:56] <BiPolah> brandon420: Perhaps something your running has a memory leak
[23:56] <linuxdude21> how use you write    ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | awk  '{print $2}'  in an alias to get the same return as the command
[23:56] <linuxdude21> ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | awk  \' {print $2}' failed
[23:56] <erUSUL> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1149.html XXDD
[23:56] <variable> linuxdude21: alias foo="ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | awk  '{print $2}'"
[23:56] <variable> erUSUL: old news
[23:56] <linuxdude21> variable: i see grep with awk all the time
[23:56] <torrancew> ya, you can definitely use them together
[23:57] <nixbox> i have ubuntu on an HTPC, it was working perfectly, i rebooted it and now it drops down to an initramfs shell, it shows me a kernel stack trace which occured during mount
[23:57] <romistrub> erUSUL: ... that this exists has possibly made my day :D
[23:57] <variable> linuxdude21: then you see bad all the time
[23:57] <erUSUL> use a function instead... also "ip a" output is more parseable
[23:57] <variable> romistrub: there are other funny ones as well
[23:57] <linuxdude21> variable: does not return the same why
[23:57] <linuxdude21> way
[23:57] <yoho> torrancew: I think it's supposed to be DHCP, but it keeps putting the address of the LAN router in the resolv.conf
[23:57] <variable> romistrub: http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/bjoff_bilder/index.html --> ping of RFC 1149
[23:57] <FCdll> Hi
[23:57] <FCdll> in order to install/use BitlBee i checked this document
[23:57] <FCdll> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Bitlbee
[23:57] <FCdll> But i faced a problem n the third part of the document; 3"Connect to BitlBee" his is what i get      http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/168347_151224651600651_100001393509885_309501_5598857_n.jpg
[23:57] <FloodBot2> FCdll: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <variable> romistrub: http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/pinglogg.txt-> I meant this
[23:58] <erUSUL> yoho: many routers ( mine for example ) can give out dns servers and act as caching dns servers
[23:58] <variable> linuxdude21: ah - because "$0" is special
[23:58] <variable> linuxdude21: alias foo='ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | awk  "{print $2}"'
[23:58] <variable> try that
[23:58] <linuxdude21> variable: stop i have never heard someone say "grep and awk dont work together"  in fact that what nawk is!
[23:58] <variable> linuxdude21: alias foo='ifconfig eth0 | awk  "/inet/ {print $2}"' --> better
[23:58] <romistrub> variable: lol @ "dropped: 0" -- I'm surprised
[23:58] <erUSUL> linuxdude21: use a function instead of an alias; also "ip a" output is more parseable
[23:59] <variable> linuxdude21: grep and awk work perfectly fine together -- but its a plain waste
[23:59] <variable> either use awk's own pattern matching
[23:59] <variable> or use cut
[23:59] <romistrub> variable: needs redundancy :P
[23:59] <linuxdude21> variable: alias foo='ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | awk  "{print $2}"' does not return the same as ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | awk  '{print $2}'
[23:59] <brandon420> guys should "gnome-panel" be using 121mb of ram?
[23:59] <torrancew> linuxdude21: I'm seeing that as well
[23:59] <torrancew> I can offer an alternative, one sec
[23:59] <linuxdude21> variable: OHHHHH SORRY