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[21:07] <Bashing-om> UWN: Issue788 up for review and final edits: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue788 :D
[22:08] <Bashing-om> Away for a short tome - honey-do.
[22:37] <Eickmeyer> Bashing-om: "...enhanced security it offers starting with Ubuntu 22.10"  🤔
[22:45] <Bashing-om> Eickmeyer: ^ done - some one beat me to adding "starting" :) Next !
[22:53] <guiverc> thanks Eickmeyer...
[23:29] <Eickmeyer> Proofreading. If there's something I can do, it's that.
[23:37] <Bashing-om> Eickmeyer: We aim for perfection - more eyes the better :D Hey I can typo too real easy :D


[17:57] <dibadov> Hi! Can someone advice on what are steps to get software into non-free repo?
[17:58] <M-lfaraone> dibadov: unless there's a reason it should only be in Ubuntu, submit it to Debian.
[18:07] <dibadov> M-lfaraone: thanks, will do.


[06:14] <marco_vinicio> hola a todos tengo una pregunta para ustedes saben como hacer streaming con vlc??
[08:31] <rakesh-ec> hi in the policy document is there a way to set a condition that after one upload to S3 the document should expire
[08:46] <rakesh-ec> at present  we can set limit by file size in S3 is there a way to set by number of uploads


[01:49] <nameeb> Hello
[01:49] <hallissyc> hello
[01:50] <nameeb> Newbie with Linux, but very excited!
[01:50] <nameeb> I'm installing Xubuntu now
[01:50] <hallissyc> just installed mine as well
[01:50] <hallissyc> on an old macbook 2,1
[01:51] <nameeb> How did it go?
[01:51] <hallissyc> it has taken 2 weeks
[01:51] <hallissyc> haha
[01:51] <nameeb> What!?
[01:52] <hallissyc> yea, this macbook is apparently the tough one to break
[01:52] <hallissyc> i have a newer macbook pro that took 16.04 ubuntu no issues
[01:54] <nameeb> I see, so you got rid of mac is and installed Ubuntu instead or you have dual boot?
[01:55] <nameeb> *Mac OS
[01:57] <hallissyc> yep
[02:01] <nameeb> Sweet! Maybe I will install it on my MacBook air then
[02:14] <hallissyc> help
[09:29] <xubuntu17i> hello
[09:30] <xubuntu17i> someone can help me on my xubuntu ?
[09:31] <xubuntu17i> i've installed the 14.04 on my acer AO1-431 laptop (with EFI) and after apt update/upgrade, my xubuntu don't boot
[16:22] <mad_pumpkin> https://github.com/ynsta/steamcontroller  ;; so I'm having an issue where i get this error "no module named usb1" any ideas or help please?
[16:29] <Pici> mad_pumpkin: It looks like you may not have installed the dependencies listed in the readme...
[16:29] <mad_pumpkin> yeah, I'm trying that again
[17:26] <xubuntu05i> hi
[17:27] <sievert> hi :)
[20:57] <mad_pumpkin> hello, I'm on steam OS, trying to use "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" to which I recieve "E: Unable to locate package xubuntu-desktop"
[20:57] <mad_pumpkin> help?
[20:58] <xangua> mad_pumpkin: steam OS is Debian based
[20:59] <mad_pumpkin> and missin hundreds of packages, I want to install any of the buntus into it to make it more versitile
[20:59] <mad_pumpkin> prefferably xubuntu
[21:00] <knome> that's not trivial and is out of the scope of this channel
[21:00] <mad_pumpkin> where should I go for assistance then?
[21:01] <knome> not really sure if anybody wishes to support something like this, but you could search the web to see if somebody else has done something like this before
[21:01] <knome> or maybe the steam OS -specific bits are available for *buntu*, so you might be able to install xubuntu, then add those
[21:01] <knome> *might*
[21:01] <mad_pumpkin> It has been done vice versa, installing steam OS as an ubuntu extension, but not another environment as a steam extension
[21:02] <knome> well there's your answer then - it sounds a bit more sensible as well
[21:02] <mad_pumpkin> or if someone could send me a pastebin of their standard package list?
[21:02] <mad_pumpkin> that way I can just use apt-get
[21:03] <xangua> The standard package list?
[21:03] <mad_pumpkin> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:03] <mad_pumpkin> for this command so I can add them to my list and install other environments
[21:04] <xangua> Like you were told this is the Xubuntu support channel, no steam OS neither Debian
[21:04] <xangua> And what you suggest is just.... Not recommended in light words
[21:05] <knome> mad_pumpkin, if you wish to do something like that, it's better that you figure out the data and bits you need yourself so you'll have at least some idea what you are doing
[21:05] <mad_pumpkin> i'll ask in a debian irc channel then
[21:05] <knome> they'll likely tell you the same - good luck
[21:07] <mad_pumpkin> well I'm only looking for the package link that contains the buntu desktop environments for the command I used above
[21:08] <knome> sure.
[21:08] <knome> i understand, but it's not "just" the link, you're putting yourself on all kinds of problems by enabling those repositories
[21:09] <mad_pumpkin> well steam rests on the debian environment, but has a lot to be desired, I'm looking for accessibility without having to re-install everything
[21:19] <mad_pumpkin> found my sollution with the jessie sources, I just installed gnome
[21:19] <mad_pumpkin> thank you all though
[21:21]  * xangua holds his breath
[21:30] <mad_pumpkin> By installing gnome it is also adding all of the standard packages that come with the gnome desktop environment, not quie what I wanted, but deffinately better than standard Steam OS, thnak you again though Off I go.
[21:41] <genii> ...
[21:59] <kaerhon> hi #xubuntu
[22:02] <Spass_> kaerhon: Hello.
[22:03] <kaerhon> hi Spass_ :)
[22:18] <kaerhon> hey guys, i need some advice
[22:21] <kaerhon> i'm currently running xubuntu 15.04, and i need some window thing to run a bunch of softwares for work. so i'm considering dual-booting my computer. i'll also upgrade xubuntu to the last release. Should i install windows or xubuntu first? some years ago grub needed to be reinstalled if windows was installed after xubuntu, i don't know how it is now
[22:22] <bryceml> you almost always want to do windows first if I remember right.  If you don't you have to reinstall grub with a livecd, which isn't hard if you've done it before, but may be hard if you haven't.
[22:22] <kaerhon> i haven't
[22:23] <kaerhon> thanks for your input, i'll install windows first then


[05:57] <flocculant> tsimonq2: let's not break testcases then please ;)
[06:02] <tsimonq2> flocculant: heh ok :)
[06:09] <flocculant> on serious side - you do need to login to iso.tracker and see if you get admin rights
[06:11] <tsimonq2> Alright
[06:11] <tsimonq2> I'll do it right now
[06:12] <tsimonq2> yup yup
[06:12] <tsimonq2> I have access now
[06:13] <flocculant> okey doke
[06:28] <flocculant> tsimonq2 wxl - I would assume you know, but for the sake of being blindingly obvious - changing a testcase on the tracker - doesn't change the lp code. And changing a testcase on the tracker affects anyone who uses it :)
[06:29] <flocculant> and afaik tracker changes aren't logged anywhere :(
[12:27] <tsimonq2> flexiondotorg: ok
[12:27] <tsimonq2> er
[12:27] <tsimonq2> flocculant: ok
[17:44] <flocculant> tsimonq2: was just being blindingly obvious - because it wasn't to me way back when ;)
[17:45] <tsimonq2> flocculant: Ok, thanks :)
[17:45] <flocculant> :)


[01:09] <SH|TTY_MONKEY> nig
[04:53] <oldspice> hey when will i be unbanned its been like a month i need #ubuntu very bad
[04:54] <bazhang> oldspice, it's not been that long
[04:54] <elky> oldspice, askubuntu.com
[04:54] <elky> You're welcome.
[04:55] <oldspice> i must have #ubuntu i have got 0 done since i been banned
[04:55] <oldspice> when will i get there
[04:56] <elky> Perhaps when you're willing to accept the consequences of your actions.
[04:57] <oldspice> well you see ive done nothing wrong but talk tech for shure why cant you see that?
[05:02] <elky> See, that's not accepting the consequences.
[05:02] <oldspice> #ubuntu is the best channel on irc and i did nothing to be banned from #ubuntu for shure u need to give me an explination and i will talk to the courts about this
[05:02] <elky> Oddly, had you accepted from the start, rather than blaming the bogeyman, you'd have been let back in well before now.
[05:03] <oldspice> i take my irc serious ly
[05:03] <oldspice> accepted what exactly
[05:03] <oldspice> ?????
[05:05] <oldspice> i should be #ubuntu op above all of you i can see that now for shure
[05:05] <bazhang> oldspice, your ban in #ubuntu will not be removed at this time
[05:05] <oldspice> when will it be
[05:06] <bazhang> oldspice, there's no fixed time period for that
[05:07] <oldspice> im worthless until then and i assure you i will not stop till u see i was cheated u have no idea the extreme i will go to to prove my bieng cheated
[05:07] <oldspice> u wont get away with this
[05:07] <bazhang> oldspice, well, first step would not to blame others, or talk about going to the courts, but to accept that you were banned for specific reasons
[05:08] <oldspice> u wont even tell me why
[05:08] <elky> You know why, orionofneptune.
[05:08] <bazhang> oldspice, let me check the logs. this is orion, correct?
[05:09] <oldspice> no its not me and dont make me explian why unless you involved in this mess
[05:09] <bazhang> oldspice, what was your previous nickname or nicknames
[05:10] <oldspice> jap4u
[05:10] <oldspice> thats all i can think of but thier are more
[05:10] <bazhang> oldspice, if you wont enter into a serious discussion here, you cannot be trusted to act seriously in #ubuntu
[05:11] <oldspice> this is serious i will take you all to the courthouse over this seemingly trivial issue
[05:11] <oldspice> \its my id
[05:12] <oldspice> i am victum
[05:12] <oldspice> and u will see that
[05:12] <bazhang> so it's orion
[05:12] <oldspice> nomatter how long it takes
[05:12] <oldspice> i am not that person
[05:13] <bazhang> oldspice, ok, well that person is how you got banned.
[05:13] <oldspice> i know and they use this ip
[05:13] <elky> amazing how many people use the same internet connection who don't know each other, but talk and act exactly the same, and make exactly the same kinds of threats.
[05:14] <oldspice> ohh so you think a id thief cant mimic you deminer huh
[05:14] <oldspice> lol
[05:14] <elky> bazhang, yep, definitely orion.
[05:15] <bazhang> elky, thought so. also "wasteoftime"
[05:15] <oldspice> keep it up u will be in court with the others im in court with now
[05:15] <oldspice> over id theft
[05:15] <bazhang> oldspice, orion, wasteoftime, there's nothing further to discuss here
[05:15] <oldspice> oh yes thier is
[05:16] <elky> oldspice, so, you're the one who stole orion's id? Well feel free to tell the court that.  I have no mens rea and hence cannot be convicted.
[05:19] <oldspice> lol
[05:19] <oldspice> hahahaha
[05:19] <oldspice> justice will be served
[05:19] <bazhang> oldspice, please exit the channel now
[05:20] <oldspice> no way u need to learn how to be op for shure
[05:21] <elky> I especially like the bit where he threatens to harass us in a logged channel where freenode staff can see to add to his dossier.
[05:24] <bazhang> not particularly well thought out
[05:44] <bazhang> @mark #ubuntu ubuxubu giving nonsense advice
[05:54] <bazhang> now he's claiming in PM that Dell support told him that
[05:56] <bazhang> oh lovely, this is balsaq . some history in the BT, I see
[08:01] <hiexpo> hola ikonia you up ?
[08:14] <bodi> pangolin, why did you ban me for telling a newb to use google and than give him the link to a ubuntu support thread > that was not fair
[08:26] <bodi> ping ikonia & pangolin
[08:33] <hiexpo> ping ikonia & pangolin
[08:39] <hiexpo> ok I have try'd to resolve this and cannot get support > I was banned yet again for telling one to google but than gave hime a link to ubuntu thread is that so wrong ?
[08:40] <hiexpo> I sell 2 or 3 laptops a month with ubuntu that I installed on it > if I can not get support I am forced to use mint
[08:41] <Myrtti> if #ubuntu has been your only source of support, you're in deep waters
[08:42] <Myrtti> I'll have a look at the situation, brb
[08:42] <hiexpo> Myrtti, thanks it was cause i told a newb to google it
[08:48] <Myrtti> looking at the bantracker doesn't make me happy enough to remove the ban
[08:48] <hiexpo> Myrtti, so what did i do that was not right?
[08:52] <hiexpo> Myrtti, so what is the issue > I don't understand other than idleone saying i should know better than telling people to google it
[08:54] <hiexpo> ok never mind  will use another distro
[08:55] <Myrtti> ok, take care and good luck
[08:56] <Myrtti> if you don't have patience enough to wait for me to find the most suitable and fitting ways to express the problem in a way that is understandable, then I can't really help you. If you see no problem in telling people to google it, then I can't help you either.
[08:57] <Myrtti> if someone else feels more inclined to have a look at this issue, feel free.
[09:03] <hiexpo> Myrtti, i tell them to google it because it has already been resolved
[09:03] <hiexpo> and point them tothe thread
[09:06] <hiexpo> and the thread is always a ubuntu one
[09:06] <Tm_T> hiexpo: people don't come to our support channels to be told "google it", but get help
[09:07] <Tm_T> "figure it out yourself" (telling to google it is that) isn't help
[09:07] <hiexpo> Tm_T, i agree thats why i point the thread link
[09:08] <hiexpo> google alone is not help
[09:08] <Tm_T> then why you insist with telling people to google? no, this is not debatable, it's not what you do in our channels
[09:08] <Tm_T> and if you don't accept it, there's no point continue the conversation
[09:09] <Myrtti> "have you noticed that the problem seems to have been solved in this thread? I found it in google"
[09:10] <elky> hiexpo, askubuntu.com is available to you still
[09:10] <hiexpo> Tm_T, i accept that telling people to google is wrong
[09:11] <elky> do you understand why it's wrong, hiexpo?
[09:12] <hiexpo> yes cause it is still looking not answering the problem
[09:12] <elky> Would you agree that it's also rude?
[09:12] <hiexpo> google is just a search engine
[09:12] <hiexpo> ok yes
[09:14] <hiexpo> ok I will never reference to google again
[09:14] <Tm_T> that's not what we ask, though
[09:14] <hiexpo> but is it ok forme to ref to ubuntu threads
[09:15] <Myrtti> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/SupportersGuide
[09:16] <hiexpo> well i agree to send a person to google that is telling them go some where else
[09:17] <hiexpo> so now i better understand > andi amsorry never meant it that way > just meant it in a way as look
[09:18] <hiexpo> but now i know many are blind
[09:19] <hiexpo> and can'tlook
[09:19] <elky> whaaaa?
[09:20] <elky> I don't even...
[09:20] <hiexpo> i see read the guide
[09:21] <hiexpo> i don't mind following the rules > sorry
[09:23] <hiexpo> elky, what youmean ?
[09:26] <elky> "many are blind and can't look"
[09:27] <elky> a. they can "look" with screenreaders. b. not everyone is good at googling, that's why "just google it" is rude.
[09:30] <hiexpo> ok
[09:31] <hiexpo>  ok anyways I  am sorry for acting inappropriate andtelling people togoogle
[09:31] <hiexpo> spacebarbites here
[09:31] <hiexpo> :(   :)
[10:02] <hiexpo> ok so anyways > I see I am not gonna be allowed back in ubuntu so bye ubuntu  > hello Mint I guess
[10:16] <hiexpo> i understand that but answer me if no > means no thats fine
[10:45] <LjL> Myrtti: err, philinux gave useful information and links as far as i can see, he just said to google a relevant thing when he was out of information to give...?
[10:45] <Myrtti> great, then you both can have cookies
[10:46] <LjL> oh seriously
[10:46] <LjL> the atmosphere here has gotten ridiculous
[10:47] <Myrtti> let me wade through my backlog
[10:48] <Myrtti> and you were right, thanks for pointing that out, did you enjoy your cookie, I have more?
[10:49] <LjL> sarcasm cookies are sour
[10:50] <Myrtti> oops, must have put too much buttermilk in them then
[10:51] <hiexpo> hehe
[11:07] <pangolin> hiexpo, you got banned for calling the person you told to google it a dorknob, this was after you were asking them cryptic questions about what graphics card they have, when you could tell they didn't know how to provide that information you didn't give them the command, you instead asked them to read your question and ask them who made the card.
[11:07] <pangolin> so.  This behaviour has been going on and off since 2010. We have had enough.
[11:21] <pangolin> take a six month break. see you then
[11:23] <pangolin> You know about the no idle policy we have for this channel.  You know the guidelines well and you know better than to not follow them.
[11:26] <pangolin> Now you are banned for 6 months.
[11:26] <pangolin> btw every time we catch you ban evading I will add 2 months.
[11:27] <pangolin> so I really think you just need to take a break and go help out some other project in the mean time
[11:27] <hiexpo> > ok so give me 1 more break if I screw up ban me for 2 years
[11:27] <pangolin> no. we tried that already.
[11:27] <pangolin> my decision is final. I am not changing my mind now.
[11:27] <pangolin> !appeals
[11:28] <hiexpo> ok
[16:18] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu berni Spams a site he wants people to "vote" on
[19:10] <uncle111_> dear respected ikonia sir ... i was just telling my problem there and sorry for my poor english ! i ll try to improve that . please allow me !
[19:10] <ikonia> uncle111_: hi
[19:10] <uncle111_> yeah .. hiii :)
[19:10] <ikonia> uncle111_: #ubuntu does not support backtrack linux, that is why #backtrack-linux is a support channel
[19:11] <uncle111_> okay ! and m trying to add user ! :-|
[19:11] <ikonia> uncle111_: backtrack-linux expects a certain level of linux experience, it's an advanced linux users tool
[19:11] <ikonia> uncle111_: if you can't do basics like add a linux user, so you can get access to the backtrack-linux support channel, then backtrack-linux is probably too advanced for you
[19:12] <ikonia> uncle111_: that said #ubuntu does still not support backtrack-linux, so I suggest you either a.) go and learn about backtrack-linux or b.) choose another distro
[19:12] <uncle111_> yeah .. i shd believe that .. but i want to learn things .. i dont know where to start ..
[19:12] <uncle111_> i have been a minig engg student for 4 years
[19:12] <ikonia> uncle111_: then backtrack-linux is too advanced for you
[19:12] <uncle111_> finally i left mining .. it screws me !
[19:13] <ikonia> uncle111_: ok, well now that you've had that explained to you I wish you good luck,
[19:13] <uncle111_> i can spend time in front of comp .. but cant do mining !
[19:13] <ikonia> goob bye
[19:13] <ikonia> "good"
[19:13] <uncle111_> thanks !
[19:14] <uncle111_> and m not into this by force  .. it a prolonged choice ...! that resisted mining for continuously for 4 years .. :P
[19:15] <ikonia> uncle111_: we are not a chat channel or a support channel.
[19:15] <uncle111_> whoops!
[19:15] <ikonia> I've explained what #ubuntu is for and that it is not for backtrack linux help, so please leave this channel now, and good luck with backtrack
[19:15] <uncle111_> okay thanks for everything on mah first day on irc !
[19:16] <ikonia> no problem
[19:16] <uncle111_> backtrack gnome is built on ubuntu .. what does it mean ? if my ques is genuine .. i expect an answer !
[19:16] <ikonia> I've just told you, you will not get an answer
[19:16] <uncle111_> okay!
[19:46] <mcloy> ikonia,  doesnot deserves to be an op
[19:46] <ikonia> mcloy: you've been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops and banned from the channels you where cross-posting in
[19:46] <ikonia> mcloy: did I or did I not warn you approx 5 minutes ago not to cross-post and explain what cross-posting was ?
[19:47] <mcloy> i was done with  you. and i can move to another channel
[19:47] <mcloy> and crossposting is not disallowed by freenode
[19:47] <ikonia> mcloy: did I or did I not ask you not to cross-post and explain what cross-posting was ?
[19:47] <ikonia> mcloy: it is by ubuntu
[19:47] <mcloy> and crossposting is not disallowed by freenode
[19:47] <ikonia> as I explained to you
[19:47] <ikonia> yes, but you are using Ubuntu's channels and it is the ubuntu rules
[19:47] <mcloy> i didnt corssposted in ubuntu channel
[19:48] <ikonia> mcloy: really, so you didn't post #ubuntu #ubuntu-server and #kubuntu ?
[19:48] <mcloy> i dont have to talk to you.
[19:48] <ikonia> mcloy: you do if you wish to get your ban removed and resolved
[19:48] <mcloy> ban me there too
[19:48] <ikonia> you are banned
[19:48] <mcloy> thats the max power you have
[19:48] <ikonia> mcloy but I dont' want it to stay that way
[19:48] <ikonia> mcloy: do you wish to resolve this yes/no ?
[19:48] <mcloy> no
[19:48] <ikonia> ok, then please leave the channel
[19:48] <mcloy> ill stay in trouble for the next week
[19:49] <mcloy> ill be more happy
[19:49] <ikonia> it won't just "go away" after a week
[19:49] <mcloy> ban me. iam not leaving
[19:49] <ikonia> it will stay until you decide to resolve the ban with us
[19:49] <mcloy> a month
[19:49] <mcloy> a year
[19:49] <mcloy> fine


[00:01] <Sarvatt> i think they are developing this stuff around unity/UNE where utouch is installed by default, having the conffile that moves it from synaptics to evdev in the utouch packages somewhere makes more sense to me
[00:02] <Sarvatt> i dont even know what gestures you'll get with the utouch stuff, not having tap to click is pretty killer..
[00:02] <Sarvatt> so i'd be interested in how it wors if you try it out :)
[00:03] <Sarvatt> just moving the conffile back and restarting should give you evdev and gestures
[00:04] <Sarvatt> instead of just a pointer like before if i'm not mistaken
[00:05] <rbelem> Sarvatt, the xsession-errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/495590/
[00:06] <rbelem> sorry for the delay
[00:06] <Sarvatt> you removed it renaming it to .bak earlier btw, movinf it back to .conf reenables it :)
[00:06] <Sarvatt> thanks rbelem!
[00:06] <rbelem> :-)
[00:07] <Sarvatt> this your bug? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/640497
[00:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 640497 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "KDE fails to load since updates 2010-09-15 (affects: 3) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,New]
[00:12] <Sarvatt> literally, i know its the same problem you're having :)
[00:20] <veenenen> i'll right, I'll give this reset a try
[00:26] <veenenen> no luck with the restart
[00:27] <veenenen> I can tell it's capturing the two finger gestures, but none of the taps are working
[00:28] <Sarvatt> i dont think there's any gesture i'd ever use more than i use tapping :(
[00:29] <veenenen> three button left and right for back and forward is kind of nice on mac
[00:29] <veenenen> four finger up for expose too
[00:29] <bryceh> you really should be talking to cnd about this
[00:30] <veenenen> i'm in the ubuntu-touch chat right now asking about setting it up, but no response yet
[00:32] <bryceh> he's at the X conference in france at the moment
[00:32] <Sarvatt> yeah cnd is away at the X developer's summit and the other people are probably gone for the weekend or still getting back from the multitouch conference that happened right before it
[00:36] <veenenen> alright
[00:39] <Sarvatt> rbelem: looks like they started discussing the problem at the end here but no new info in case you want to keep an eye on the bug too http://bugs.kde.org/240956
[00:40] <rbelem> sweet!
[00:40] <rbelem> thanks Sarvatt
[02:12] <ScottK> Sarvatt: mgraesslin is going to look at the kwin blacklisting problem tomorrow.  He said it should have been blacklisted already, so there may be a regression.
[09:13] <RAOF> ScottK: Re bug #633406 - can you verify that this occurs in mesa 7.9~20100909-0ubuntu1?  I think this bug got caused by the attempted mesa workaround for the clutter bug.
[09:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 633406 in mesa (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 4 other projects) "Display freeze when changing kwin effects settings if effects are active (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 22)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/633406
[09:15] <RAOF> Sarvatt: The magic trackpad gets claimed by evdev now.  Which means it gets multitouch gesture support, but loses two finger scroll, tapping, and such.
[12:20] <ScottK> RAOF: That bug exists with the 7.8.3 mesa, -0ubuntu1, and -0ubuntu2. (commented in the bug too).
[12:59] <RAOF> ScottK: Well, that's unfortunate.
[13:00] <RAOF> ScottK: Because the code that it applies to in the 7.9~20100909-0ubuntu2 package is from the patches trying to work around the clutter bug.
[13:02] <RAOF> Which is reverted in the 7.9~20100909-0ubuntu3 package that needs a sponsor ;)
[13:06] <RAOF> ScottK: I'll look at porting that patch to 7.9, then.
[14:00] <cnd> RAOF, bryceh: the synaptics patch didn't get merged properly :(
[14:00] <cnd> the patch was put in debian/patches, but not added to series
[14:01] <cnd> I hope this doesn't have to go through as an SRU...
[14:02] <cnd> I'm still getting used to what's allowable in an RC freeze
[14:50] <RAOF> ScottK: I don't see the freeze on 7.9~git20100909-0ubuntu3 (which is basically 7.9~git20100909-0ubuntu1).  Instead, kwin crashes and sometimes locks the GPU.
[15:23] <ScottK> RAOF: OK.  I'll try it.  Where can I get ubuntu3?
[15:27] <RAOF> ScottK: It's 0ubuntu1 with a changelog entry; you can grab the source package from http://www.cooperteam.net/Packages and I can throw the binary packages up there too if you'd like
[15:27] <ScottK> Please.
[15:28] <RAOF> You don't feel like waiting 30 minutes for mesa to build?  Shocking, I say!
[15:35] <ScottK> Now if I could remember which 3 of those I need ....
[15:36] <RAOF> You're after libgl1-mesa-glx, libgl1-mesa-dri
[15:37] <ScottK> Thanks
[15:38] <ScottK> Ah.  Those are all 64bit.  I guess I'll just build it.
[15:39] <AlanBell> hi all, just wondering if there is anything I can do to help find a solution to bug 614238
[15:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 614238 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Intel Core i3 External Monitor Wavy Output (affects: 5) (heat: 34)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/614238
[15:40] <AlanBell> it is like a single pixel wide instability http://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=36009
[15:41] <AlanBell> it flickers with the refresh rate and occurs at all resolutions on the vga output only. internal LCD is fine, HDMI output is fin
[15:41] <RAOF> ScottK: You should be able to grab -0ubuntu1 from launchpad.  It *should* be the same as -0ubuntu3 except for the changelog.
[15:42] <ScottK> OK
[16:07] <ScottK> RAOF: I get the problem with -ubuntu1.
[16:07] <RAOF> ScottK: Ok.  My hardware clearly remains magical.
[16:08] <ScottK> RAOF: What do you think about the patch then (I can adjust it to apply to -ubuntu3)?
[16:16] <RAOF> The code that the patch changes is no longer in ubuntu3; the drawable garbage collection code changed significantly.
[16:18] <RAOF> ubuntu2 added patches 105..107, which are reverts of commits in 7.9.  If you look at the patch, all the code it touches is in those reverts.
[16:25] <RAOF> ScottK: I don't know about the patch; I think adjusting it ot apply to -ubuntu3 will result in a significantly different patch.  The patch that applies to -ubuntu2 doesn't look horrible.
[16:35] <Sarvatt> RAOF: did you see that patch was obsoleted and a new patch was added to the upstream bug?
[16:36] <Sarvatt> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30220
[16:36] <ubot4> Freedesktop bug 30220 in GLX "Change windowExistsErrorHandler to drawableExistsErrorHandler in glxcmds.c ?" [Normal,New]
[16:37] <RAOF> Sarvatt: I only see one patch on that bug?
[16:37] <Sarvatt> oh it's the second one you're talking about then, ok
[16:38] <RAOF> GarbageCollectDRIDrawables doesn't exist in mesa 7.9
[16:39] <RAOF> So the patch doesn't apply.
[16:44] <RAOF> Ok.  We're getting kicked out of the lecture theatre.  Time to bail.
[19:27] <ScottK> RAOF: Now that I look at ubuntu3 mesa I see what you mean.
[23:08] <soreau> ppa-purge is broken here http://pastebin.com/d9aHvtMe
[23:31] <soreau> The problem was the script doesn't comment the lines if they have a space in front of them. Line 137 of ppa-purge might could use something like this instead: sed -ri "\:^[^#]+/${PPAOWNER}/${PPANAME}/:s/^[[:blank:]]*deb/# deb/" $LIST
[23:44] <soreau> Now it looks like xorg-edgers lucid ppa only has X 1.8.2?