[23:05] <jarnos> How do you make wireless network work in live USB session, if there is no wired connection available?
[23:18] <jarnos> Network manager applet is not shown in the notification area in panel, even if nm-applet is running.
[23:44] <jarnos> When I managed to install xfce4-indicator-plugin, and added it to panel, network manager shows up.


[12:19] <theblazehen> hi all
[12:27] <theblazehen> hi sleap
[12:27] <theblazehen> zleap*
[12:30] <zleap> hi
[12:31] <theblazehen> whats up?
[12:31] <zleap> not much just setting up github
[12:31] <theblazehen> awesome :) got any code to show yet?
[12:31] <zleap> nope
[12:32] <theblazehen> What language do you want to get into?
[12:32] <zleap> python
[12:32] <zleap> and may upload scratch stuff,  but i can upload that to the scratch website anyway
[12:32] <theblazehen> nice. Could never really get the hang of it. I use php
[12:32] <zleap> https://github.com/zleap/projects-
[12:32] <theblazehen> checking it out now. http://github.com/theblazehen
[12:33] <zleap> i need to figure out how to use it,  and also set up the same account on the pi
[12:33] <theblazehen> you are doing it wrong btw
[12:33] <theblazehen> you create a repository for each project. Dont bundle them all together unless one project depends on another
[12:33] <zleap> ok
[12:34] <zleap> well so far i am just starting off with everything
[12:34] <theblazehen> Have a look at mine to see how i did it
[12:34] <theblazehen> Yea :).
[12:34] <theblazehen> Do you like the syntax of python?
[12:35] <zleap> its not too bad,  i am fillowing the ubuntu special edition stuff
[12:35] <theblazehen> ok. If you want to try php i reccomend tizag.com though
[12:35] <zleap> so all the commadn line stuff i did on my main pc i just replicate on the pi so the pi is set up in the same way
[12:35] <zleap> ok
[12:36] <theblazehen> Why are you cloning it on the pi as well? why not just work on main pc?
[12:36] <zleap> so i can upload code from the pi
[12:36] <theblazehen> also you might want to install gitg for a git GUI
[12:36] <zleap> ok
[12:36] <theblazehen> why can't you upload from main pc?
[12:36] <zleap> i can
[12:36] <zleap> so i copy from pi to main pc then upload from there
[12:36] <theblazehen> Then why also from the pi?
[12:36] <theblazehen> oh
[12:37] <theblazehen> whats your timezone ?
[12:37] <zleap> uk
[12:37] <theblazehen> ok. I'm from south africa.
[12:37] <theblazehen> Run archlinux. Ubuntu community better though
[12:38] <zleap> just installing gitg
[12:38] <theblazehen> awesome
[12:40] <theblazehen> heard of bitcoin before?
[12:40] <zleap> yeah think so
[12:40] <theblazehen> Want to start trading?
[12:40] <zleap> ok dumb question, if I open gitg  and do file open what am i trying to find
[12:40] <zleap> not signed up to bitcoin as yet
[12:41] <theblazehen> open a terminal and run git init
[12:41] <theblazehen> then open that folder in gitg to see commit history
[12:42] <zleap> ok
[12:42] <theblazehen> how old are you btw? I'm 16
[12:42] <zleap> 37
[12:42] <theblazehen> ok
[12:43] <zleap> ok so this isn't showing hidden files for some reason
[12:43] <theblazehen> gitg?
[12:43] <zleap> yea
[12:43] <zleap> running init creates a hiddeh folder .gitg
[12:43] <theblazehen> dont go in the .git folder just the folder containing the .git folder
[12:44] <theblazehen> yes
[12:44] <theblazehen> touch example.txt
[12:44] <theblazehen> git add .
[12:44] <theblazehen> git commit -m "sample commit"
[12:44] <zleap> ok
[12:45] <zleap> erm
[12:45] <theblazehen> what?
[12:46] <zleap> do i type what you just told me to
[12:46] <theblazehen> yes
[12:46] <zleap> ok git add . takes a while then
[12:46] <theblazehen> should be fast
[12:47] <theblazehen> is it in its own folder?
[12:47] <zleap> ok
[12:47] <zleap> so what is that doing exactly
[12:47] <zleap> i know touch example.txt creates a file called example.txt
[12:47] <theblazehen> creating an empty file called example.txt and adding it to what git will commit
[12:48] <theblazehen> git commit then basically makes a snapshot of the directory
[12:48] <zleap> ok so i need to do this from .git other wjse its from the home directory
[12:49] <theblazehen> ok do this: mkdir gitexamples
[12:49] <theblazehen> touch example.txt
[12:49] <theblazehen> git add example.txt
[12:49] <theblazehen> that says it must include in next snapshot
[12:49] <theblazehen> then git commit -m "message here"
[12:50] <zleap> ok done
[12:50] <theblazehen> ok
[12:50] <theblazehen> now run gitg in the terminal
[12:51] <zleap> ah got it
[12:51] <theblazehen> does it show your commit?
[12:51] <zleap> so if I do things like that from ./python/myproject it will upload projects
[12:51] <theblazehen> yes, sorta
[12:52] <theblazehen> now it is a snapshot on your local machine
[12:52] <theblazehen> to get it online create a repo on github
[12:52] <zleap> like projects (lets use that as a test area)
[12:53] <theblazehen> run git remote add origin https://github.com/zleap/reponame.git
[12:53] <theblazehen> ok
[12:54] <theblazehen> then run git push -u origin master
[13:00] <zleap> ok thanks
[13:00] <theblazehen> np
[13:02] <zleap> i will get there
[13:02] <theblazehen> Yea :)
[13:02] <zleap> i need some source code to push first
[13:02] <theblazehen> yep :p
[13:03] <zleap> ok i have created a new reporo called helloworld
[13:03] <theblazehen> ok
[13:04] <zleap> http://rogerdudler.github.com/git-guide/
[13:04] <zleap> mega easy guide for noobs like me
[13:05] <theblazehen> yea
[13:05] <zleap> ok if I copy someting like hello.py in to gitexmples/helloworld
[13:06] <theblazehen> yea?
[13:06] <theblazehen> git add hello.py
[13:06] <theblazehen> git commit -m "added hello"
[13:06] <theblazehen> git push
[13:10] <zleap> ok
[13:11] <zleap> ok i am not doing something right here
[13:12] <theblazehen> what do you mean?
[13:12] <zleap> git pushcomes up with
[13:12] <zleap> fatal: No configured push destination.
[13:12] <zleap> Either specify the URL from the command-line or configure a remote repository using
[13:13] <theblazehen> git remote add origin https://github.com/zleap/helloworld.git
[13:17] <zleap> ok its uploaded python.py to git hub
[13:17] <theblazehen> ok good
[13:20] <zleap> ok just saved my last 78 history entries so i have a record of what i have done
[13:20] <zleap> can sort out the right bits later
[13:20] <theblazehen> ok
[13:20] <zleap> so for anyother project i do mkdir new project name  cd to that directory and do git init and then repeat the other steps to upload stuff
[13:20] <theblazehen> yep
[13:21] <zleap> so am i limited to 5 repositories for a free account
[13:21] <theblazehen> i think so
[13:22] <zleap> ok
[13:22] <zleap> so in that case i need to delete old ones
[13:22] <theblazehen> yes
[13:23] <zleap> thanks
[13:23] <theblazehen> np
[13:23] <zleap> we have a few git experts on my local lug too
[13:23] <theblazehen> awesome
[13:23] <zleap> so git clone downloads stuff, i make changes ten upload new new files
[13:24] <theblazehen> yes
[13:25] <zleap> mm gitg seems unstable
[13:25] <zleap> if i click commit tab it hangs
[13:25] <theblazehen> why?
[13:25] <theblazehen> ok
[13:26] <zleap> i will stick to the cli for now
[13:26] <theblazehen> ok


[12:26] <Odd_Bloke> Is it possible to upload a repo (to be hosted) without creating an associated product?
[12:28] <LarstiQ> Odd_Bloke: you can upload to ~user/+junk/branch
[12:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80902 in malone "Allow bug retargeting from product to distribution, or vice versa" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80902
[12:31] <Odd_Bloke> LarstiQ: Cheers.
[12:31] <kiko-afk> Odd_Bloke, I think the answer to that question is yes. have you seen http://ddaa.net/blog/
[12:33] <LarstiQ> really ciao kiko
[02:34] <mpt> bother
[02:34] <LarstiQ> yes?
[02:36] <mpt> I need code that hasn't been merged yet
[02:40] <mpt> lifeless, any ETA for merging rocketfuel/launchpad/devel into rocketfuel/launchpad/ui-one-zero?
[05:17] <somerville32> somerville32@serenity:~/code/xubuntu-default-settings.main$ bzr push sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team/xubuntu-default-settings/trunk/
[05:17] <somerville32> Permission denied (publickey).
[05:17] <somerville32> bzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to SSH host bazaar.launchpad.net;
[05:17] <somerville32> Is there any reason why I'd get that error.
[05:17] <somerville32> s/./?
[05:25] <LaserJock> somerville32: I don't really know but are you sure your ssh key is the same as on LP and you are a member of xubuntu-team?
[05:25] <somerville32> 95% :)
[05:26] <somerville32> I can push my other branch
[05:27] <somerville32> I'm so stupid
[05:27] <somerville32> I forgot to have the cody-somerville@ in front
[05:27] <somerville32> since my local username is different
[05:28] <LaserJock> ;-)
[08:47] <carlos> morning!
[09:55] <sabdfl> hi folks
[09:56] <sabdfl> the lp-dependencies packages need a tweak for feisty
[09:56] <sabdfl> there are newer versions of some of the library dependencies
[09:56] <sabdfl> like libapr1
[09:56] <sabdfl> who's on top of that?
[09:58] <lifeless> Etienne is maintaining that package.
[11:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80951 in malone "no search results for "uml_switch"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80951
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #79035 in malone "Product/distribution Bugs pages need count of open bugs fixed elsewhere" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/79035
[12:06] <mpt> SteveA, when I wake up, may I merge rocketfuel/launchpad/devel into rocketfuel/launchpad/ui-one-zero manually and send to PQM?
[12:07] <mpt> (I need some code that's in the former but not the latter)
[12:08] <carlos> lifeless: pochu just asked me whether karma is being updated, he thinks it's not changing in last three days or so
[12:08] <carlos> lifeless: could you check it?
[12:10] <SteveA> mpt: no
[12:10] <SteveA> mpt: that will quite possibly merge database code onto the UI branch that isn't yet in production
[12:11] <SteveA> mpt: https://launchpad.canonical.com/LaunchpadProductionStatus
[12:11] <SteveA> we're at 4377
[12:12] <SteveA> it is possible to add more recent revisions, provided that there are no database changes in there
[12:26] <xdatap> good morning
[12:26] <xdatap> matthewrevell: ping
[12:26] <matthewrevell> xdatap: Hi
[12:26] <xdatap> matthewrevell: hi
[12:27] <xdatap> matthewrevell: seems the karma calculation doesn't worked from 17-1 until today. i hope this information may be useful
[12:29] <pochu> xdatap: yes, i noticed that
[12:29] <pochu> :)
[12:29] <matthewrevell> xdatap: Thanks for letting me know. So, your karma total hasn't updated in that time, even though you've done work in Launchpad?
[12:29] <xdatap> matthewrevell: yes
[12:33] <matthewrevell> xdatap, pochu: I'm sorry your karma hasn't updated. We have noticed that there is a problem with karma calculation. One of the team is looking at it and we hope to have it fixed in the next couple of days.
[12:34] <pochu> no problem
[12:34] <pochu> :)
[12:34] <xdatap> matthewrevell: ok, no problem.
[12:34] <pochu> just i wanted you noticed it
[12:34] <pochu> if you didn't
[12:35] <matthewrevell> xdatap, pochu: Thanks for letting us know :) I'm sorry that it's not working at the moment. It's always best to let us know if things aren't working as they should :)
[12:35] <xdatap> matthewrevell: next time i see a problem like this do you prefer a bug report or join this chan?
[12:35] <pochu> good question
[12:35] <pochu> :)
[12:35] <matthewrevell> xdatap: You can always speak to me here. However, if you look for a bug you can add your own comments or see if it's being worked on.
[12:36] <xdatap> ok
[12:36] <xdatap> good, i have to go
[12:36] <xdatap> good work to everyone
[12:36] <xdatap> bye
[12:36] <pochu> bye xdatap
[12:36] <xdatap> bye pochu, matthewrevell
[12:48] <cprov> good morning !
[01:05] <kiko> morning
[01:10] <Hobbsee> hey kiko
[01:44] <kiko> hey Hobbsee
[01:44] <kiko> stub!
[01:44] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:45] <stub> Yo
[01:45] <kiko> stub, can you help us find out why nightly is not producing error output on gangotri?
[01:46] <static> good morning launchpad
[01:46] <stub> Maybe not completing
[01:47] <kiko> stub, could be -- been happening since the 18th
[01:47] <kiko> morning static
[01:47] <alefteris> hello everyone? how can a product, that has the .po available at http://l10n.gnome.org/module/gcompris be setup to use rosseta?
[01:48] <stub> Need someone with access to have a look. I'm only attached by wet string so not much use.
[01:49] <carlos> alefteris: are you a gcompris developer?
[01:49] <alefteris> nop
[01:49] <carlos> Them first step is that they should want to offer Rosetta as a way to translate it
[01:50] <carlos> alefteris: also, for GNOME modules, we have the extra restriction that you should be an active member of the GTP
[01:50] <carlos> so we don't conflict with them
[01:50] <seb128> hi carlos
[01:51] <seb128> carlos: feisty is opened on rosetta now?
[01:51] <alefteris> So what i should do? contact the product Registrant and wait for him to import it?
[01:51] <alefteris> or contact the developers?
[01:51] <carlos> alefteris: if you want to translate it for Ubuntu, you can do it at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/edgy/+source/gcompris/+pots/gcompris (but coordinate with GTP is still a good idea)
[01:52] <carlos> seb128: no, for some reason, testing process took 29 hours instead of 3 hours as Edgy took
[01:52] <seb128> :(
[01:52] <carlos> seb128: and Stuart is on vacations this week, so it will happen after the sprint (next week) in the mean time I'm going to see what's going on there
[01:53] <seb128> ok
[01:53] <carlos> alefteris: if you want to translate outside Ubuntu, you can go ahead and ask the developers
[01:53] <seb128> maybe one day we will have a version of Ubuntu that can be translated before GNOME freeze
[01:54] <alefteris> ok thank you
[01:56] <kiko> stub, your answer to my message doesn't help me very much. the fact is that the bug watch updater is failing. is that because /asuka/ is the one failing to do outgoing HTTPS?
[02:03] <stub> It is failing? The bug watch updater is running on gangotri (production) and asuka (staging).
[02:06] <zyga> hello (if this is a FQA feel free to flame me but I could not find it on lp): what is the policy of syncing published branches?
[02:07] <kiko> stub, yes, it is failing because outgoing HTTPS is not going through. I realize my message was a bit misdirected, but you could have read between the lines..
[02:07] <zyga> in other words: how does launchpad decide when to pull from synced branches?
[02:07] <kiko> stub, it's also failing on gangotri
[02:07] <zyga> s/synced/hosted/
[02:07] <kiko> zyga, that's a FAQ and a question for ddaa (doh, where is he) and matthewrevell
[02:09] <zyga> matthewrevell: ^ if that is in the FAQ please point me to it because: https://launchpad.net/faq certainly lacks information on this topic
[02:10] <kiko> mmmm
[02:10] <kiko> lifeless?
[02:10] <kiko> zyga, let me try and find somebody who knows the answer
[02:11] <zyga> thanks
[02:11] <niemeyer> stub!
[02:11] <niemeyer> stub: What a great vacation :-)
[02:12] <niemeyer> Wow
[02:12] <niemeyer> :-)
[02:13] <kiko> well thanks for scaring him off
[02:15] <LarstiQ> zyga: the http mirror of a hosted branch should be updated ~10 minutes after you pushed to sftp
[02:15] <niemeyer> Well.. he was right to be scared.. my next sentence would be a question
[02:16] <zyga> LarstiQ: ahh, so there is a sftp version of http
[02:16] <zyga> cool, that's what I was looking for
[02:16] <LarstiQ> zyga: yes, sftp being the master
[02:16] <zyga> I thought that launchpad pulls/merges
[02:16] <zyga> instead of me pushing
[02:16] <ddaa> hello
[02:17] <ddaa> zyga: yes it does, and yes you do
[02:17] <LarstiQ> zyga: got a specific branch you're looking at?
[02:17] <zyga> hmm!
[02:17] <zyga> yeah I have
[02:17] <zyga> just a sec
[02:17] <ddaa> LarstiQ: wassup?
[02:18] <LarstiQ> 14:06:52 < zyga> hello (if this is a FQA feel free to flame me but I could not find it on lp): what is the policy of syncing published branches?
[02:18] <ddaa> that's a very vague question.
[02:19] <ddaa> I guess the appropriately vague answer would be "the policy is it happens automatically"
[02:19] <LarstiQ> 14:07:07 < zyga> in other words: how does launchpad decide when to pull from synced branches?
[02:19] <ddaa> zyga: what do you mean by "synced"?
[02:20] <zyga> re
[02:20] <zyga> okay I have this branch
[02:20] <zyga> https://code.launchpad.net/~zkrynicki/+branch/command-not-found/main
[02:20] <zyga> I used bzr's launchpad plugin to register it
[02:20] <ddaa> okay this is a mirror branch
[02:20] <zyga> and not I was wondering where must I push my code so that the web mirror gets updated
[02:20] <LarstiQ> zyga: that is a mirrored, not hosted branch
[02:21] <ddaa> it is mirrored every 24h
[02:21] <zyga> ahh
[02:21] <kiko> ddaa, you know the timing information for syncing and mirroring -- do we have that up on a wiki or blog I can reference?
[02:21] <zyga> it's pulled from the url I gave, right?
[02:21] <ddaa> kiko: not really
[02:21] <LarstiQ> zyga: see that page in launchpad, it mentions, Location: http://suxx.pl/~zyga/command-not-found
[02:21] <ddaa> should be configurable, and obvious anyway
[02:21] <kiko> ddaa, could you or matthewrevell produce one?
[02:21] <zyga> yah, that's my public mirror
[02:21] <LarstiQ> zyga: so that is where it pulls from, once every 24 hours
[02:21] <kiko> ddaa, yeah, but this question has been asked a few times and I suck at not remembering the answers...
[02:22] <ddaa> kiko: write it on the faq page then
[02:22] <zyga> is there any way to know the pull history?
[02:22] <kiko> ddaa, I don't know the answers, but the real reason I don't is that I think you are very good at describing the concepts involved, whereas I am not!
[02:22] <ddaa> hosted branches: 10 mins, mirror branches: 1 day, import branches: complicated but less than 2 days.
[02:23] <zyga> hmm
[02:23] <zyga> what are import branches?
[02:23] <ddaa> kiko: that's part of the problem
[02:23] <LarstiQ> zyga: importing to bzr from cvs/svn
[02:23] <ddaa> this stuff needs to be answered simply _without_ describing the concepts involved
[02:23] <zyga> ok
[02:23] <zyga> I'm puzzled now
[02:23] <zyga> maybe I should have used hosted branch
[02:24] <LarstiQ> zyga: depends on what you want to do
[02:24] <zyga> I do not have to maintain my own mirror this way
[02:24] <zyga> well I have a home mirror but that's really not hi-uptime and such
[02:24] <ddaa> zyga: zorry, I'm confuzed, what's the question you would like an answer for?
[02:24] <zyga> ddaa: none right now
[02:24] <zyga> ddaa: maybe just if the time of last pull could be visible on the branch summary page
[02:25] <zyga> ddaa: I was not aware of the multiple choices when I set up that branch
[02:25] <ddaa> nod
[02:25] <zyga> ddaa: and now I'm just wondering if the implicit choice was right
[02:25] <ddaa> should be more transparent... *checks for a bug*
[02:27] <zyga> I'll re-check the status after another 24 hours and report a bug for explicit information on exact time of last sync if nothing changes
[02:27] <ddaa> zyga: would this make you happy: https://launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/74031
[02:27] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74031 in launchpad-bazaar "supermirror pull frequency should be more transparent" [Medium,Confirmed]
[02:27] <zyga> thanks for answering my questions :-)
[02:27] <kiko> ddaa, I try not to live in an ideal world...
[02:27] <zyga> 90% does: I'd add information about failed pull if any
[02:27] <ddaa> kiko: I try to live in an ideal world
[02:28] <ddaa> we're going to meet someplace
[02:28] <ddaa> zyga: what kind of information?
[02:29] <zyga> ddaa: tried at <timestamp> but got 404 instead
[02:29] <zyga> something like that
[02:29] <zyga> so that I know there is a typo in the URL or something
[02:29] <ddaa> zyga: it's already displayed
[02:29] <ddaa> when there is an error
[02:29] <zyga> oh, good
[02:29] <zyga> then my comment is obsolete
[02:30] <kiko> ddaa, uhh, that's not what I meant. :-)
[02:31] <ddaa> zyga: thank you for your input
[02:32] <ddaa> kiko: I think it's much better to fix the UI, than write documentation that's going to be hard to read and that will become obsolete.
[02:32] <kiko> ddaa, is the UI fix easy enough?
[02:32] <kiko> if so I agree
[02:32] <kiko> if it's going to take months though, docs are a better mitigation plan
[02:32] <ddaa> https://launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar/+bug/74031 is FiF fodder
[02:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 74031 in launchpad-bazaar "supermirror pull frequency should be more transparent" [Medium,Confirmed]
[02:32] <ddaa> something like one browser method and one template change
[02:36] <zyga> thanks!
[02:36] <ddaa> kiko: can you oblige https://launchpad.net/launchpad/+ticket/3255
[02:38] <niemeyer> kiko: Have you done any tests regarding the amount of data transferred between Launchpad and PostgreSQL for heavy pages?
[02:39] <kiko> niemeyer, I have never done that, no.
[02:40] <ddaa> kiko: just clear the branch on https://launchpad.net/ntfs-config/0.3/+source, and move https://launchpad.net/ntfs-config/0.3 and https://launchpad.net/ntfs-config/0.4.2 to the obosolete-junk product.
[02:40] <kiko> ddaa, can we move series between branches?
[02:41] <ddaa> kiko: you mean "between products", right?
[02:41] <kiko> yes, sorry.
[02:41] <ddaa> I used to do this in the old times
[02:41] <ddaa> when I was admin myself
[02:41] <kiko> on what page?
[02:41] <ddaa> +admin, I guess :)
[02:42] <kiko> that page doesn't exist, and I suspect it's no longer possible to do this without DBA intervention.
[02:42] <ddaa> haha
[02:42] <ddaa> on series/+review
[02:42] <kiko> !
[02:42] <ddaa> doit!
[02:42] <kiko> Forbidden
[02:42] <ddaa> lol!
[02:42] <kiko> it's probably a buttsource hangup
[02:43] <ddaa> it looks like it's restricted to just the owner
[02:43] <kiko> wow, really
[02:43] <ddaa> I can access https://launchpad.net/launchpad-cscvs/trunk/+review but not https://launchpad.net/ntfs-config/0.3/+review
[02:44] <kiko> well
[02:44] <kiko> it says inTeam vcs_imports
[02:44] <ddaa> I am in this team.
[02:44] <kiko> maybe the latter is a bug?
[02:44] <ddaa> but it does not work for me
[02:44] <kiko> what does the restricted message tell you?
[02:45] <kiko> ddaa, both are forbidden for me fwiw
[02:45] <ddaa> https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/fileywHIb7.html
[02:46] <kiko> ddaa, bug! fun.
[02:46] <kiko> matsubara, have time for a quick test-n-fix?
[02:46] <ddaa> kiko: completely bustificated
[02:46] <ddaa> should be admin-only
[02:46] <kiko> ddaa, should be easy to fix
[02:46] <kiko> https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/fileywHIb7.html
[02:46] <kiko> for https://launchpad.net/ntfs-config/0.3/+review
[02:46] <kiko> matsubara, ^^^
[02:48] <matsubara> kiko: checking...
[02:48] <kiko> salgado, sftp://devpad.canonical.com/code/kiko/launchpad/global-karma
[02:49] <salgado> thanks kiko
[02:49] <kiko> salgado, hmm.
[02:49] <kiko> salgado, says zero revs pushed, but.. it's there
[02:52] <kiko> matsubara, can you file a bug so I can link to it from the ticket?
[02:53] <matthewrevell> ddaa: Sorry, been at lunch. I notice you mentioned an improvement to UI, rather than docs, but I'll happily write a general guide to syncing and mirroring if you can provide the base info. I know there's some stuff on your blog.
[02:54] <ddaa> mrevell: let's do this in amsterdam
[02:54] <ddaa> need to focus on this oops stuff this week
[02:54] <kiko> matthewrevell, I was talking about answering the specific question: how long do we take to mirror  and sync from the various different branch types
[02:54] <matsubara> kiko: sure thing.
[02:54] <kiko> matthewrevell, not about general documentation
[02:54] <ddaa> cannot let myself get sidetracked by all the other things that I should be doing as well.
[02:55] <kiko> (which would be nice but more time-consuming)
[02:55] <ddaa> mrevell: do you have an amsterdam-todo-list already?
[02:55] <kiko> thanks matsubara rocking as usual
[02:55] <matthewrevell> kiko: Ah, I thought ddaa said he was going to tweak the UI to answer that question. I'll be writing a general guide at some point.
[02:56] <ddaa> I said that.
[02:56] <matthewrevell> ddaa: No to-do list yet. To much to do here, atm :) I'll put some ideas together later in the week.
[02:56] <kiko> matthewrevell, ddaa: are we sure that the UI tweak will answer the questions relevant there? I thought there were 2 or 3 intervals that are relevant (but I might be on crack)
[02:56] <ddaa> yes
[02:56] <kiko> when we mirror, when we sync and when we scan
[02:56] <kiko> ok thanks
[02:56] <matsubara> kiko: just to make sure, are you trying to access a productseries +review page, so you can disable it?
[02:57] <ddaa> ultimately, those interval should become either displayed in the UI or vanishingly small
[02:57] <ddaa> ultimately ~ one month or so
[02:57] <ddaa> with the current focus
[02:57] <kiko> matsubara, so I can move it to another product
[02:58] <ddaa> matsubara: effectively, to disable it
[02:58] <matsubara> kiko: all right. In launchpad.dev I can access a productseries +review page logged in as a LP admin.
[02:58] <kiko> matsubara, and can you access the page above on edge?
[02:59] <matsubara> kiko: I'm not a admin on production
[02:59] <kiko> true, true :-)
[03:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80990 in launchpad "Define a better policy for disabling archive mirrors" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80990
[03:02] <kiko> matsubara, ok, confirmed that it is broken on edge too. I think you may be testing using the wrong user.
[03:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #80991 in launchpad "The distribution mirror listings look awful on beta.launchpad.net" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/80991
[03:08] <ddaa> matsubara: make sure that the admin user you are using is 1. not vcs-imports member 2. not owner of the product/series
[04:50] <kiko> mpt, are you perchance awake?
[04:50] <kiko> where's francis...
[04:50] <kiko-fud> ***
[04:51] <flacoste> kiko-fud: pong
[04:51] <kiko-fud> flacoste!
[04:51] <kiko-fud> flacoste, I might need to talk to you a bit after lunch, so hang around
[04:51] <kiko-fud> let me go out for food briefly
[05:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81002 in malone "Changing search result order from importance to newest first clears assignee criteria" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81002
[06:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81013 in launchpad "Semi-secret polls claims you need to enter a vote key" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81013
[06:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81014 in malone "Don't assume entered package is a binary package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81014
[07:30] <mpt> Gooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!
[07:32] <mpt> kiko, I'm awake now :-)
[07:33] <sandy16> hi there
[07:34] <kiko> mpt!
[07:34] <sandy16> i have got some problem in launchpad account, can any body help me out?
[07:34] <kiko> sandy16, sure, what's up.
[07:36] <sandy16> kiko, i have three email address in launchpad account, and i have changed the preferred address and deleted the previous one (which i use for login), now i am unable to login
[07:37] <kiko> sandy16, what's your launchpad name?
[07:38] <sandy16> kiko, sandeep.kedarasipalli
[07:41] <sandy16> kiko, any way?
[07:42] <kiko> sandy16, hold on.
[07:46] <radix> Just so you guys know, I'm about to create a "Later" milestone in one of my products as a workaround for being unable to view milestone-less tickets by themselves (bug #70709), hint hint
[07:46] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 70709 in malone "Can't search for bugs without a milestone set" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/70709
[07:54] <kiko> radix, do you use product series?
[07:55] <radix> kiko: no, we only have trunk
[07:55] <kiko> radix, would you use product series in the future?
[07:55] <radix> kiko: I don't believe so
[07:55] <sandy16> kiko, found any solution to my problem?
[07:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #81023 in launchpad "Launchpad copyright year range should include 2007" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81023
[07:55] <kiko> interesting.
[07:55] <radix> kiko: we have a pretty centralized development without any sort of dev/stable/whatever split
[07:56] <radix> kiko: probably very similar to malone, looking at its LP page
[07:56] <kiko> ok.
[07:57] <kiko> sandy16, what email address are you trying to use to log in?
[07:58] <sandy16> kiko<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(this is what i have changed for as preferred ID)
[07:58] <kiko> sandy16, what happens when you enter that email and your password?
[08:00] <sandy16> kiko, "The email address and password do not match."
[08:01] <kiko> sandy16, can you try the "forgot my password" button?
[08:02] <sandy16> kiko, oh i got that back
[08:02] <sandy16> kiko, thanx buddy
[08:03] <kiko> woo!
[08:03] <kiko> thanks sandy16
[08:54] <mpt> kiko, correction: I told you that ui-one-zero was missing code from December that I needed for one of the page redesigns. It's actually code that was landed January 11th.
[08:55] <kiko> ah.
[09:55] <sidnei> hey there
[09:56] <sidnei> who do i have to beg to get a copy of launchpad
[09:57] <mdke> sidnei: launchpad.net/faq
[09:57] <beuno> sidnei: short version, it's no available for download.... *yet*
[09:58] <mdke> hmm, doesn't say on that page. sidnei: kiko can help
[09:58] <sidnei> yawn. my hair will turn white before i get hold of it :)
[09:59] <mdke> ??
[09:59] <beuno> mdke, sorry then, was like that last time I checked
[09:59] <mdke> I mean, I don't get the hair turning white thing
[10:00] <sidnei> i think i will have to visit kiko personally
[10:00] <kiko> yeah maybe
[10:00] <mdke> why? he's very active on irc
[10:00] <mdke> he's ALWAYS HERE!
[10:01] <sidnei> just a ref to the fact i've been waiting forever
[10:01] <kiko> for a personal visit?
[10:01] <kiko> give me a break
[10:02] <sidnei> kiko: if you only would stay on the same continent long enough
[10:03] <sidnei> kiko: i might visit you on the winter actually
[10:04] <sidnei> lets see how that works
[10:04] <kiko> sounds awesome
[10:53] <alex_muntada> have a problem with an external bzr branch that I cannot update thru sftp, anyone can help me?
[10:55] <thumper> alex_muntada: spiv will be along in a second to help you
[10:55] <alex_muntada> thumper: thanks!
[10:56] <alex_muntada> I'm also asking in #bzr
[10:58] <spiv> mdke: hello!
[10:58] <mdke> hiya :)
[10:58] <mdke> spiv: you can guess what I'm going to poke you about
[11:07] <spiv> mdke: I think so, sorry, doing three+ conversations at once!
[11:07] <mdke> spiv: no worries, I'll be around for a bit if you have time. It's about my email re: wiki
[11:43] <spiv> mdke: I'll try dig up that script later today.  Sorry for the delay, I've been on leave and now I'm at a sprint.
[11:43] <mdke> spiv: no problema, thanks for replying
[11:43] <spiv> mdke: I'll mail you once I've done that.
[11:44] <mdke> spiv: actually if you just give me a list for the help.u.c wiki, that will do, we can maybe merge it with the list you did last time on wiki.u.c?
[11:45] <spiv> mdke: Sure, I'll need to get the admins to run the script.  I'll dig up the details and send the admin request later today.
[11:45] <spiv> mdke: But I'll also make sure you have the details of what's involved, so hopefully you're not stuck depending on me for this stuff next time :)
[11:45] <mdke> spiv: thanks, that's great! cc: me on the RT if you like
[11:46] <spiv> (I'm happy to help if I'm around, but if I'm not it shouldn't stop things)
[11:46] <mdke> hopefully this will be the last time, but you never know
[11:52] <jml> can I acquire the 'jml' account on launchpad?
[11:53] <LarstiQ> not sure what the current owner thinks of that
[11:55] <jml> yeah. I guess not.
[11:56] <mdke> still, all the cool people have the same launchpad and irc handle
[11:56] <mdke> you could do away with Juko Marc Lucas?
[12:14] <LaserJock> mdke: not all cool people ;-)
[12:16] <mdke> LaserJock: *cough*
[12:17] <LaserJock> I should move my LP page I guess
[12:17] <LaserJock> does that mess things up to change IDs?
[12:17] <LarstiQ> afaik your id is the same, only the outward name changes
[12:17] <LarstiQ> so all references still work
[12:17] <LarstiQ> then again, it has been a long while since I did that.
[12:17] <LaserJock> so just the name-id association is changed
[12:17] <mdke> you can change your username really easily too
[12:18] <mdke> as well as your realname
[12:18] <LaserJock> I realized the other day that searching for laserjock give people nothing
[12:18] <mdke> that was one of my fix it friday bugs


[11:29] <hlavaty> why does ubuntu 12.04 lts insists on removing libtidy-0.99-0:i386 when installing tidy or libtidy-0.99-0?  should not i386 and amd64 libs live independently from each other?  is that a bug
[11:36] <rbasak> hlavaty: IIRC it depends on packaging support from individual libraries, that have to declare that they are multiarch capable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec for details.
[11:38] <hlavaty> rbasak: thanks, so how do i find out who to ask for a fix?
[11:39] <hlavaty> would ubuntu launch pad be a good place for bug report or somewhere in debian?
[11:39] <rbasak> hlavaty: probably against the Debian package, assuming that the issue affects Debian too. Then Ubuntu will get the fix the next time it's synced.
[11:40] <rbasak> (or merged)
[11:40] <hlavaty> hmm i dont have debian to verify
[11:40] <hlavaty> ok thanks a lot
[11:40] <rbasak> Nowadays I verify Debian bugs in an LXC container. It's quick to do that way on an Ubuntu system.
[11:40] <rbasak> lxc-create -t debian etc.
[11:42] <hlavaty> good idea, thank you


[08:19] <marcdeop[m]> hello everybody
[08:19]  * marcdeop[m]  < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/5a8177c25597dd82f202a9e9396a0be38b9c6fcf/message.txt >
[08:19] <marcdeop[m]> does such an option like `ip-rp-filter` exist for netplan?
[09:15] <LukasM[m]> I don't think so..