[00:08] <ubptgbot> wrench wrench was added by: wrench wrench
[00:09] <ubptgbot> <wrench wrench> hey every one ive an old android s duos will ubuntu  touch will run on it
 @wrench wrench, No
 https://puri.sm/posts/june-1st-last-call-for-librem5-devkit/
 So librem 5 is using I.MX 8 SOM.. @mariogrip will you get the kit??
 mmm i would hope so
[02:06] <ubptgbot> <wrench wrench> @vanyasem, thnkxxxxx;;00
 someone has a Motorola g5 plus? I would love to have ubports on this device! I saw in the github of halium that they started to port it.
 I
[05:24] <ubptgbot> mrtkhn was added by: mrtkhn
 @Speed'n'Roll, Often, the porting is being done by people who are very busy working toward 16.04 for Ubuntu Touch. So it slowed a bit
 That device has had a lot of work for sure
 @mrtkhn, MIMA welcome. Please check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
 @Stereofont, thanks for answering. I will be patient then 😅
 (Sticker, 357x512) https://irc.ubports.com/bxdpt0Ls.webp
 Can you recommend any sites where i can buy oneplus one
 @technicalbird, We probably will have more than 1 kit, hopefully ;)
 That would depend on country. You should seek local advice
 @Flohack, Good news... Hope UT runs directly without any issues on that😁😁😁
 @technicalbird, I expect some issues, but we shall see. First challenge is to boot it - Okay, but then, first challenge is to receive the test board haha
 @budheswarbaghel, eBay ?? I think 🤔 you should wait for 16.04 as it is expected to come out on one plus 3 or 3T ..
 @theReadOnly, If funds allow, that would be a sensible option
 ood morning, I tried installing Ubuntu on my netbook, but I could not get with the bootable USB stick. Apparently my bios do not have function to enable the reading of the pendrive. Do you know of any solution or alternative to install Ubuntu?
 [Edit] Good morning, I tried installing Ubuntu on my netbook, but I could not get with the bootable USB stick. Apparently my bios do not have function to enable the reading of the pendrive. Do you know of any solution or alternative to install Ubuntu?
 @annalima, This group is about Ubuntu Touch
 It has nothing to do with desktop ububtu
 But it's not a desktop, it's a Netbook.
 @annalima, It doesn't matter, you're in the wrong place
 Kkkkkk
 meu netbook é um asus Transformer t100
 Is tablet too
 [Edit] My netbook is an asus Transformer t100
 but ok, I will seek help somewhere else. thanks for nothing.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/ALaNEb9r.mp4
 @annalima, Here's a guide for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDoP6h8TQw8
 took 5 seconds in google
 @annalima, Please do understand that topic groups in general react like this if there are offtopic questions coming along. If you accidentially hit this situation, "I,m sorry, can you tell me where to go?" usually gets you further than insisting on a solution - the guys here are happy to help you as you can see on the link tha
[10:33] <ubptgbot> t arrived later. Posting disturbing GIFs wont help you much
 @annalima, I'm just following this group for the sake of it seeing the official announcement on an online article that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project, but I have to comment on that. What. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person.
 @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group for the sake of it seeing the official announcement on an online article that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project, but I have to comment on that. What. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. 😒 They have high delusive expectations and no re
[10:44] <ubptgbot> spect when the truth unfolds.
 @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group, for the sake of it, seeing the official announcement on an online article that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project, but I have to comment on that. What. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. 😒 They have high delusive expectations and no
[10:45] <ubptgbot> respect when the truth unfolds.
 @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group for the sake of it now that the official announcement that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project was made, but I have to comment on that. What. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. 😒 They have high delusive expectations and no respect when
[10:47] <ubptgbot>  the truth unfolds.
 @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group for the sake of it now that the official announcement that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project was made, but I have to comment on that. What. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. 😒 They have high delusive expectations and no respect for
[10:48] <ubptgbot> people when the unreadable truth unfolds.
 @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group for the sake of it now that the official announcement that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project was made, but I have to comment on that. What. A. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. 😒 They have high delusive expectations and no respect f
[10:49] <ubptgbot> or people when the unreadable truth unfolds.
 @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group for the sake of it now that the official announcement that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project was made, but I have to comment on that. What. A. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. 😒 They do have high delusive expectations and no respec
[10:50] <ubptgbot> t for clean people when the unreadable truth unfolds.
 @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group for the sake of it now that the official announcement that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project was made, but I have to comment on that. What. A. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. 😒 They do have high delusive expectations and no respec
[10:51] <ubptgbot> t for clean/guiltless people when the unreadable truth unfolds.
 @annalima, [Edit] I'm just following this group for the sake of it now that the official announcement that Librem 5 phone will be supported by your project was made, but I have to comment on that. What. A. Delusional. Ungrateful. Person. I hate people when they do that. 😒 They do have high delusive expectations and no respec
[10:58] <ubptgbot> t for clean/guiltless people when the unreadable truth unfolds to them.
 Everyone could have handled that better
 @brrm, You may want to get a librem 5 from purism u will be able to run this OS as well as pureOS so u can compare and see what distro best suits your needs
[13:19] <ubptgbot> marta thieleman was added by: marta thieleman
 Welcome marta !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started, we have language groups available.
[15:32] <ubptgbot> Carl Wheezer was added by: Carl Wheezer
 @Carl Wheezer, Hi Carl, welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed
 Well guys, i just got my N5, going to update the firmware first and then going to install ubpprts, 16.04 can be used as daily basis?
[15:35] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> Im having issues with Ubuntu touch on nexus 5; … My device isnt rooted and when I shut it down the screen isnt fully off
[15:36] <gehidore> UniversalSuperBox since n5x supports multirom - I'm told - would this be something I could test in that fashion or is it better to just accept the device will likely be dedicated to such
 @jeremiasn, 15.04 ig you want your phone as a daily driver, 16.04 for testing and reporting bugs. It's not ready yet
 @Carl Wheezer, Can you explain what you mean with "My device isnt rooted"
 Ok thanks so 15.04
 👍
 @jeremiasn, [Edit] 15.04 if you want your phone as a daily driver, 16.04 for testing and reporting bugs. It's not ready yet
 Didn't know that you needed your phone to be rooted, i thought that was only for android right
 You don't need to root
 That's what i thought
[15:41] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @advocatux, I used ubports Ubuntu app to install UT on nexus 5, for some reason secure is still on, also my device doesnt shut down, the screens still lightly lit with a black background
 What UT version?
[15:43] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @Carl Wheezer, (Secure boot)
 Carl if you set an alias on your telegram account it's easier to ping you
 and to invite you to other groups
 What UT version is running in your phone now?
[15:46] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @advocatux, 15.04 stable
[15:52] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> 15.04 r3 (os build number)
[15:53] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @Carl Wheezer, Ubuntu 15.04 - armhf (2017218)
 @advocatux, well, not in Android, but by definition, if you install UT on your phone, your phone is rooted (jailbroken).
 @Carl Wheezer, this is only when you fully power off the phone, not when you just turn off the screen?
[16:09] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Yes, when I press the shut down button or power it off, it shuts off in 1 second but theres a glow coming from the screen
[16:10] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, To fully power it down I have to use the bootloader. … Also is 15.04 r3 the stable branch?
 yes, 15.04 r3 is stable
 hmm, my n5 definitely is turning the screen/backlight off, but sometimes it does still look like the screen is "glowing" a bit
[16:19] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Also the battery drains pretty quickly too, not sure how to fix that, I read it was notifications
 well if your screen is actually not turning off, that will indeed cause the battery to drain very quickly
 there certainly used to be an issue on n5, but it has long since been fixed
[16:30] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Is there a way to update it? … Yesterday was my first install
 well if you installed with ubports installer the 15.04 stable channel, you have the latest stable update already
 by "long ago" i mean the screen power off issue was an issue like 2 years ago
 so it's weird if you'd be seeing it and on ubports images
[16:37] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Should I just re download UB ports, then reimage my Nexus 5? … Also how do you use convergence?
 it might help, hard to say
 if by "convergence" you mean an external display, you need a Slimport adapter and bluetooth keyboard and mouse
 gehidore, I'd accept the sacrifice
 Also, to ping people through tgBot use @ before the username
 @Carl Wheezer, UT devices are not rooted. You mean that your phone suspends but will not turn off?
 @Stereofont, you can't have UT and not have a "rooted" phone. but the term is not relevant because the whole android system image is replaced
 @dohbee, That 😄
[16:52] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Mines not rooted, but I did attempt to Root (when booted it has an unlocked symbol, but root checker said it wasn't rooted)
[16:53] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @Stereofont, No, it's off but the backlight is still on
 @Carl Wheezer, you mean an android app that checks if your phone is rooted from inside android?
 @Carl Wheezer, I wouldn't call that 'off'
 in UT you can run things as root, and the concept of root concerning android is no longer relevant. There is no "not rooted" in terms of UT.
[16:57] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Oh, so it's like a PC now? … Cause I thought I screwed up and it's not rooted. … Secure Boot is still enabled
 no, it's not like a PC
 the "secure boot" in bootloader has nothing to do with "rooted" in android
 rooted in android just means you went into developer options inside android and enabled "root" access
 well, it's not like a traditional PC, anyway
 Do i need to unlock my n5 bootloader to install ubports using the installer ?
[17:04] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Is your UT buggy? Because mine occasionally freezes or lags.
 @jeremiasn, yes
 Thanks
[17:06] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @jeremiasn, Yes, but be careful because you'll lose all your data (did that yesterday, lost saves)
 Yes thats no problem, is a brand new n5
 @Carl Wheezer, well my nexus 5 is itself buggy, the wifi/bt don't work, and it's old and i think some touchscreen issues on it
 Ok done, now installing ubports, so 15.04 right
 so i only really use it to test some things, rather than actually using it as a phone
[17:09] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @dohbee, Is there a way to install lineage os or dual boot with UT?
 you can replace UT with lineage, sure. dual boot is not supported, no
 @Carl Wheezer, Some people have managed that but it is unstable and temporary
 at some point in the future, after 16.04 is stable, there will be an updated that provides anbox support, which should allow most android apps to work
[17:12] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @Stereofont, Do I need TWRP? There's no tutorials except from Android to Lineage. … UTs cool but too buggy
 @Carl Wheezer, for Lineage yes. you are replacing UT then, the same way as you'd replace stock android
 @Carl Wheezer, Sounds more like your particular device has problems
 The ubports installer didn't work on mac, it just stay on the screen after the phone got rebooted into the bootloader, however i rebooted my pc to windows and everything working great
 @jeremiasn, 👍
 Carl sorry, I had to leave for a while. Most of your questions has been answered, but I want to ask you if you used your Nexus 5 with Android before installing UT. Did it work well? I'm asking because Nexus 5 power button is notorius for its problems
 I'm using a Nexus 5 as a daily driver and I think it's pretty stable
[17:25] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @advocatux, Yes, it was nearly flawless except 2 issues (on stock android):  … - very rarely the screen turns off on its own, but that's fixed by restarting it. … - wifi occasionally drops for some reason (never the data) … But on UT; phone can't shut off, data didn't appear one time (on Android it would be the wifi, neve
[17:25] <ubptgbot> r data). … It's weird because I saw videos of UT on YouTube and it seemed stable. My device is in great condition but it's old
 @jeremiasn, Most of the problems with the installer in Mac is that your user can't see the needed tools (i.e. you need to set it in your `$PATH`). The quick solution is to run the installer with `sudo`
[17:26] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @advocatux, Should I just reinstall UT?
 @Carl Wheezer, APN settings are not always picked up automatically from your SIM. You may have to configure them manually
 @Carl it looks like a hardware problem to me. … Another question: was the Android installation up to date?
[17:29] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @advocatux, Yes
 There are two versions of Nexus 5?
 Maybe we should move to the install group
[17:30] <ubptgbot> Stason888 was added by: Stason888
 @Carl please set an alias in your telegram account, you can delete it later
 Hello, everybody!
 Carl it is useful if you make a username in Telegram
 😃
 :
 [Edit] :)
 Hello Seven. Check out … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[17:31] <ubptgbot> <Carl Wheezer> @Stereofont, How? I'm pretty new to this
 In Settings
 It enables pings and invites
 @Stason888, Do you need any help here?
 @Stereofont, Added a username
 I am using RaspberryPi with small touch screen and arm version of Ubuntu Mate. I am able to run xfce, lxde and plasma instead and was wondering, if it possible to connect some PPA to give a try to Ubuntu Touch
 Arm V7
 you can run unity8 sure, but it'll be a slightly different experience than full UT on a phone/tablet might be
 @dohbee, Actually, I have 3g modem in modem-only mode and can call from it and recieve sms via asterisk. But Network Manager doesn't work at that moment. If I use NetworkManager, I can't call and recieve sms via asterisk+sip phone. So I wanted to try UbuntuTouch (it has inbuilt working ofono stack) to get full Mobile experie
[17:43] <ubptgbot> nce and UI for my 3.5" touch
 I want to have self-made open source phone intead of buing proprietary.
 Is there any PPA for arm? Or may give me info how can I try to install it on base of Arm Ubuntu version? I may use clean Ubuntu Snappy Core instead
 *instead of version with preinstalled DE and other repos
 the ubports repo should have arm builds i guess
 you definitely won't be able to run unity8 on a snappy core system
 Having one more issue with the installer, is giving adb push errir cannot start and a path to a file, no such file or directory on 0.1.13 beta, let me try other version
 @dohbee, I use snappy version with preinstalled Mate at this Moment and it runs pretty smooth on my resources. I am able to replace it with xfce or lxde, but kde plasma for example is too fat for me, I think the same problem with unity
 if you are running an ubuntu core based system, there's no option to run unity8. if you're running a deb-based system of ubuntu 16.04 for example, then you could add the ubports repository and install the unity8 stack
 @jeremiasn, Try 0.1.12
 >if you're running a deb-based system of ubuntu 16.04 for example … this. I was unable to find info about repos, so wrote here
 @Stason888, https://github.com/ubports/unity8-desktop-install-tools
 Thank you, there is indeed arm repo, I should give it a try http://repo.ubports.com/dists/xenial/main/binary-armhf/
 The idea of a pi phone running UT was discussed here last year. I am sure there are others interested if you want to try
 Will it have look and feel of mobile ubuntutouch version (I have preinstalled and working drivers for touch screen) and ofono stack, or like desktop version?
 nobody has tested it on your hardware config, so can't answer that
 It is a theoretical option
 Maybe either
 but probably it will act like PC version by default because there is no device config to change the grid units value and such for your hardware
 If you want to form a small group I think we would be fine with that. There is e.g. a Serval group
 @Stereofont, How can I do that?
 Or maybe there is existing group?
 Which I may join
 @Stason888, If there was we would know. Let me ask around and see if we can do something. There is no massive hurry
 @Stereofont, I agree) Ok, thx
 well a group with only one person would be pretty boring
 even a group with only three people is pretty boring :P
 News Channel is good for that kind of stuff
 @dohbee, It is better when there is 3 people in the group, instead of trying different ways to make that (phone) in solo for a 2 months
 @dohbee, In non-working time of course
 @Stereofont, I'll give a try to that that repo at first
 @Stason888, I have a raspy and would be curious, too. But I dont have a modem nor touch screen (yet)
[18:35] <gehidore> @UniversalSuperBox shame it's a bot that redirects to irc but then wants you to use twitter's fodderish tagging system :S
[18:35] <gehidore> such is life though
[18:35] <gehidore> I'll see if I can nab this other n5x and dedicate one to it
 @jonny, Maybe Stephen too, when he is not overly busy
 @gehidore, Nah, that's just Telegram's way of tagging
 @jonny, Great to hear tha you are curious too. Actually, there are a few options to connect it, simplest - via gpio. But in common, all gpio modules provide voice+2g or 3g internet only (may be with gps), so I use Huawei e173 modem. But there may be some troubles with it, you should check that you have version with working v
[18:50] <ubptgbot> oice (Brazilian doesn't work), it must be unlocked and in modem-only mode. I've enabled voice features via AT commands (you may find it on internet or ask, nothing too hard) and changed imei to my imei of my ex android phone to work with my operator (he prohibits usage of my plan on non-mobile devices, but actually I need my sim card only on mobile
[18:50] <ubptgbot>  device, but via modem)
 @jonny, And youll need to solder a few wires for modem not to be protuted if using usb
 If others here are interested in thinking about pi with UT, wave your arms around
 @Stereofont, The rpi?
 I own 2, 3 and plan on buying 0W and 3B+
 @Stereofont, *waving arms around* I use a 3B with OpenELEC, I control it with Kodimote from UBports UT on my E5hd
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/9Qx0tj7O.webp
 It'd give me an excuse to pick up another pi
 [Edit] I own 2, 3 and plan on buying 0W and 3B
 [Edit] I own 2, 3 and plan on buying 0W and 3B+
 Mooom give me some money for a pi(e)
 😁


[11:21] <pavlushka> Good day Kilos :)
[11:22] <Kilos> hi pavlushka nap time hehe
[11:22] <Kilos> work hard
[11:22] <pavlushka> on it :)


[19:48] <duanedesign> What is the best license for documentation. I am working on the boucft project. A collection of forum how tos in DocBook format viewable offline in Yelp. I made the package CC-Noncommercial-attribution-sharealike. apparently that is unacceptable on Launchpad
[19:49] <duanedesign> Not fully understanding licenses as pertaining to documentation any input would be appreciatted
[22:07] <duanedesign> Rocket2DMn: Do you have any recomendations for which license is best suited for documentaton?
[22:08] <duanedesign> I chose the Creative Commons Noncommercial-attribution-sharealike. Launchpad sent me a notice saying that they consider this a proprietary license. So I need to pick qa different one.
[22:16] <pace_t_zulu> duanedesign: GPL is pretty well accepted
[22:16] <pace_t_zulu> duanedesign: http://www.ubuntu.com/legal
[22:17] <pace_t_zulu> i assume Rocket2DMn will let us know if he disagrees
[22:18] <duanedesign> pace_t_zulu:  thank you
[22:18] <pace_t_zulu> duanedesign: does that answer your question?
[22:19] <pace_t_zulu> duanedesign: this may help... http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
[22:19] <pace_t_zulu> here is the GPL v3 license: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-3.0.txt
[22:27] <duanedesign> pace_t_zulu: yes that helps alot. thank you.
[22:28] <pace_t_zulu> duanedesign: you are welcome... happy to contribute
[22:52] <Rocket2DMn> duanedesign, the community doc material is released under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License.
[22:53] <Rocket2DMn> also see https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/newtoubuntu/C/legal.html
[22:53] <duanedesign> Rocket2DMn: thank you
[23:13] <philip_> GPL for docs?
[23:14] <philip_> the php manual also recently changed to CC