[00:00] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: you lost nvidea module with an update? garn that stinks
[00:00] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf sub-D ?
[00:00] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, dvi?
[00:00] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, doesnt matter, but just so you know :P
[00:00] <xJust> ooooky :) ,,, i can't see "Audio Icon" on Windows Live Messenger users in "Empathy" ... why .. how do i make voice calls with Windows Live Messenger users ???
[00:00] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf don't got to tell me it was a horrible way to wake up
[00:00] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: thanks :-) the one with the screws in it
[00:01] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, theres two..vga, or dvi..dvi will be the bigger of the two.
[00:01] <xJust> !empathy
[00:01] <Roxxor> xJust not sure.. but i think canoncial removed voice and video support from empathy for karmic
[00:02] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: says "digital video" so I'm going with DVI
[00:02] <sammy> xJust: I think Roxxor is right. I think only the development versions of empathy have voice/video support for now
[00:02] <xJust> Roxxor, Sammy, Reaaallly? .. hmm .. so what is the BEST IM client do you guys think is
[00:02] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf dvi is funny looking with 3 rows of holes
[00:03] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: and just to be clear, when I remove my xorg.conf, xserver runs swimingly. If I add a blank xorg.conf, still runs great. If I add anything to this xorg.conf, it no longer likes me.
[00:03] <Roxxor> sammy no... official its stable... but i read some developers marked the support itself as unstable and removed it
[00:03] <obx> is there a program to see if there are conflicting issues between programs
[00:03] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, you said u tried the nvidia config?
[00:03] <Roxxor> xJust i use empathy.. its quite good... if you llike, you could try to manually install the support for video and voice ;)
[00:03] <obx> or conflicts between versions of a program
[00:03] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: yes. I can go try it again if you'd like.
[00:04] <xJust> Roxxor, how :D ?
[00:04] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, was it picking up both monitors?
[00:04] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf you looked at /var/log/Xorg.0.log right?
[00:04] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: no
[00:04] <sammy> Roxxor: ahh. and xJust: I use gajim, but you have to connect to a jabber server with transports to connect to anything but jabber/xmpp/googetalk. the latest (development?) version has voice and video support.
[00:04] <Roxxor> xJust i tried it, but failed epicially :D
[00:04] <xJust> Roxxor, LOOOL ,, sounds cool ;)
[00:05] <sammy> xJust: aim/yahoo/msn are protocols of the past. tell your friends to get out of vendor locked protocols and move to xmpp/jabber :)
[00:05] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: looked for what?
[00:05] <Kage_Jittai> is it possible to read data off a DVD without a functioning DVD drive in Ubuntu?
[00:05] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf when X fails it should say in that file
[00:05] <HideMe> How do I set VLC as my default movie player?
[00:05] <Roxxor> sammy empathy supports jingle ;) but i dont think theres a working voice or video transport? 0.o
[00:05] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, have you tried a restart with both monitors plugged in?
[00:05] <xJust> Sammy, hmm .. it's quite hard to convince everyone ^^ .. but what do you mean by Vendor Locked ?
[00:05] <maco> Roxxor: hmm?
[00:05] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: it said it didn't recognize the nvidia something or other
[00:05] <jrib> !defaultapp | HideMe
[00:06] <maco> Roxxor, sammy: ive used empathy to video chat before
[00:06] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: I can check it again in just a min
[00:06] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: I can try that
[00:06] <Roxxor> maco what? :D
[00:06] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf ah you may have the same problem as i do then?
[00:06] <xJust> Maco, really
[00:06] <maco> xJust: yes...
[00:06] <Roxxor> maco with msn and karmic, not modified?
[00:06] <maco> Roxxor: oh no not with msn
[00:06] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf your conf tries to load the binary driver but do you have the binary driver?
[00:06] <maco> Roxxor: who uses msn?
[00:06] <Roxxor> maco tahts the point ;)
[00:06] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: ah now I remember. the NVIDIA X Server Settings guy errors out and tells me " You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver"
[00:06] <xJust> maco, i cant see the "Audio" icon ,, or the "Video" icon for that ?
[00:07] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf hmm yes
[00:07] <xJust> maco, ooh ,, my friends do
[00:07] <xJust> lol
[00:07] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: how do I check that?
[00:07] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf grab a bucket and start bailing with me
[00:07] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, lsmod | grep nvidia
[00:07] <Roxxor> maco is use everything because every friend uses a different protocol ;)
[00:07] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf lsmod | grep nvidia
[00:07] <maco> Roxxor: you said jingle but no a/v transport, but thats obviously wrong since i could use it over jabber fine
[00:07] <maco> i only ever knew 2 people who used msn *shrug*
[00:08] <klown> pfred1, have u loaded the nvidia-glx-190 drivers?
[00:08] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: I get two outputs.
[00:08] <maco> and jingle is a jabber thing
[00:08] <sammy> xJust: I mean xmpp is being developed in the open. you can run your own server and your own client. msn/yahoo/aim do whatever they want with your messages, and frequently change the protocols to break "unofficial" clients. plus who wants to use a service you have no say in that someone else owns? especially when they get to see all your messages and do with them what they please?
[00:08] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: "nvidia       7089800  0"
[00:08] <drunkpunk> any1 offer some help changing login screen in 9.10?
[00:08] <pfred1> yeah I'm ticked off and if this wasn't Ubuntu I could have this fixed in like 2 minutes but I don't know the Ubuntu way of fixing it!
[00:08] <Adantan_Alex> how do you check how much disc space you have using command line?
[00:08] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf thats it
[00:08] <sammy> drunkpunk: what do you want to do? change the background of the login screen?
[00:08] <pfred1> Adantan_Alex df -h
[00:08] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: and "agpgart        34988  2 nvidia,intel_agp"
[00:08] <Roxxor> maco i meant a/v transport to msn, and thats not possible, right?
[00:08] <xJust> sammy, good point ^^ ..
[00:08] <maco> Roxxor: oh no not in karmic. it makes empathy crash so its disabled
[00:09] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: so that means my nvidia driver is loaded correct?
[00:09] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf yes
[00:09] <Roasted> sup guys - I got ubuntu and kubuntu dual booting, but ubuntu is default at the top. I want kubuntu at the top. Both partitions are 9.10 32 bit. How do I edit grub2 or whatever to swap the entries around?
[00:09] <drunkpunk> sammy: wanted to change the whole lot - the login bit too
[00:09] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: mind you, this is with a non-existent xorg.conf, so xserver is using ubuntu's defaults, which I CANNOT check because it uses a phantom .conf >:-O
[00:10] <Adantan_Alex> hmmmm when i install "sudo apt-get install default-jdk"
[00:10] <drunkpunk> sammy: tried changing it so it shows wallpaper but that didnt work either
[00:10] <Adantan_Alex> oops
[00:10] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf oh you can check like X -showconfig there's another command too I forget
[00:10] <xJust> ok guys :) .. a dvd to avi software in ubuntu ?? .. or the best all of all converters ^^ ? ?
[00:10] <Roxxor> xJust dvd::rip
[00:10] <drunkpunk> sammy: in prev versions it was fairly easy and those tons of premade login screens availanle on gnome look
[00:11] <Adantan_Alex> when i install "sudo apt-get install default-jdk" i then type java and i get Could not reserve enough space for object heap
[00:11] <Adantan_Alex> Could not create the Java virtual machine. any reason why?
[00:11] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf try xdpyinfo or glxinfo
[00:11] <drunkpunk> sammy: please excuse poor typing
[00:11] <ozymandias> is it possible to install the modules for an intel 5300 wifi card through apt, and not just a new kernel? I have a dell mini 10v, and changed the wifi out to something *not* shitty broadcom and now the dell installed ubuntu doesnt think I have wifi installed
[00:11] <xJust> Roxxor, i just installed it .. i have the dvd in ,, but i don't know how to change to "avi" for example ?? .. how .. were ???
[00:11] <xJust> where*
[00:11] <xJust> lol
[00:11] <maco> drunkpunk: gnome rewrote gdm and havent gotten to adding code to allow theming in the new one yet
[00:11] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: I just did nvidia-xconfig and it kills my xserver when I restart it.
[00:11] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: gimme a sec to fix xserver then I will try that
[00:11] <Roxxor> xJust first you have to copy the dvd to the computer
[00:12] <xJust> Roxxor, oooh ,, then change it ?
[00:12] <xJust> Roxxor, Easy steps .. or complicated ?
[00:12] <sammy> Roasted: the file you're wanting to edit is /boot/grub/menu.1st but it is autogenerated. try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS
[00:12] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: ok what am I looking for here?
[00:13] <Roxxor> xJust i dont know what you mean... just work through all tabs.. alternatively you could use lemonrip.. very easy to use..(just saw the interface, didnt test it really)
[00:13] <Roasted> thanks, sammy!
[00:13] <drunkpunk> maco: so no workaround?
[00:13] <sammy> Roasted: np
[00:13] <maco> drunkpunk: use kdm instead?
[00:14] <Adantan_Alex> when i install "sudo apt-get install default-jdk" i then type java and i get Could not reserve enough space for object heap
[00:14] <Roasted> sammy - aint workin, its a blank file... :(
[00:14] <drunkpunk> maco: lol now there's simplicity! thx
[00:15] <drunkpunk> sammy any thoughts to add to maco's?
[00:15] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf that is the $64 question if I knew I wouldn't be here!
[00:15] <Roxxor> xJust http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:ft0WsVM7hosJ:jaromes.projects.googlepages.com/lemonrip.html%3FScreenshots+lemonrip&cd=1&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de&client=firefox-a
[00:16] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: let me pastbin my outputs
[00:16] <xJust> Roxxor,  We're sorry... ... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now.
[00:16] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf even with no xorg.conf file you must have a startup log it says in there
[00:16] <xJust> i'm trying dvd::rip now ^^ .. thanks
[00:16] <firefly2> how can I install my windows hdds (they weren't recognized on installation) (xubuntu 9.04) and if I have to use fstab: how can I find out the /dev/... to use? thx
[00:16] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: good point. where did you say that was located?
[00:17] <Roxxor> xJust no problem ;)
[00:17] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:17] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: http://pastebin.com/m6e5d689d for glxinfo
[00:17] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: lemme go take a look
[00:18] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf grep nv the log
[00:18] <xJust> So how do you jump to desktop .. fastest keyboard shortcut ? ?
[00:18] <klown> xJust, control alt d
[00:18] <obx> is there a tool that allows you to check if their are conflicts between versions of programs?
[00:19] <xJust> klown, cooool ^^
[00:19] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: what is nv? It says that's the driver it's using
[00:19] <obx> i've got someone on ubuntuforums helping me out with my wacom, i just want pressure sensitivity really
[00:19] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf yeah that is the default driver shipped wit hX Window
[00:19] <vinpan> hello i need help install icon themes?
[00:19] <kavurt> Roasted: have you tried sammy's solution to your question?
[00:19] <Roxxor> obx normally apt-get i think... or maybe only synaptic..
[00:19] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf the unaccelerated driver
[00:19] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: well it works :-) how to make it tv-out is the question...
[00:19] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf yes even though you are loading the module it does not seem you are using it
[00:19] <drunkpunk> maco: can u help me out with installing kdm so i dont screw it up?
[00:20] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf which is really bad news for me
[00:20] <obx> or maybe i have a file from another place i'm not supposed to have, i don't know it's driving me crazy
[00:20] <Roasted> kavurt - yes, the file is empty, I think thats for grub 1, not grub 2
[00:20] <behappy> Hello how much class in network??
[00:20] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: cuz you don't even have the module right now right. but even when you get it, how will you get it to be used
[00:21] <Roxxor> obx could you give more information? ;)
[00:21] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf yes it means even if I get the module and load it it still may not work for me
[00:21] <kavurt> Roasted: so you still need an answer?
[00:21] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf because update updated something else in X this morning too
[00:21] <maco> drunkpunk: just "sudo apt-get install kdm" and when it asks if you want kdm or gdm to be default, choose kdm
[00:21] <[R]> i'm trying to use apt-get build-dep on a package that is in the main ubuntu repos and in a ppa i have enabled... and its pcking the version from the main repo and not the ppa... anyone have any tips on how make it pick the correct versino?
[00:21] <ezzieyguywuf> well I've been having this same problem for a WHILE
[00:22] <ezzieyguywuf> what happened to klown
[00:22] <klown> pfred1, i dont see why it wouldnt work for you also, im using the same driver u should be using.
[00:22] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: you stil inhere?
[00:22] <drunkpunk> maco: thanks very much, really appreciated
[00:22] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, yep
[00:22] <Roasted> kavurt - yes
[00:22] <a-stray-cat> hey, is there any way to set up hot corners like you can for os x? (for expose and stuff)
[00:22] <obx> i have a wacom bamboo mte-450 and i thought i had to install linuxwacom by source so i did
[00:22] <pfred1> klown I don't evne have the module to load since i updated this morning
[00:22] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: It seems that my system is does not like the driver for some reason. have you been following our convo?
[00:22] <obx> so then, i posted on the forum and it turns out i don't need to, so someone helped me and gave me a .fdi that would let hal see my tablet
[00:23] <obx> everything shows up but i have absolutely no pen sensitivity whatsoever and my eraser doesn't work
[00:23] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, yeah, I have been following.  looks to me like you never installed the driver, just kept the original.
[00:23] <pfred1> klown i just switched to Ubuntu about a week ago so I don't know how to do much in Ubuntu
[00:23] <obx> and the guy helping me seems to think that maybe there's a conflict between a version of something
[00:23] <pfred1> klown but i have been running Linux for oh about 14 years now or so
[00:23] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: how do you mean?
[00:23] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: ubuntu's been around that long?
[00:24] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: ah, linux. my bad
[00:24] <Roxxor> obx sorry.. but i dont know anything about wacom tablets... isnt there a .deb package anywhere in the repo?
[00:24] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf yeah I'm a whiz at Slackware 95
[00:24] <obx> yeah, and after i realized i didn't need to do it from source i installed the one from the repo
[00:24] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: nice. I been working through a linux-from-scratch build. very informative stuff
[00:25] <obx> so i mean everything shows up fine
[00:25] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf yeah i remember when people did that
[00:25] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, pfred1 try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-190
[00:25] <Roxxor> obx do the esentials work?
[00:25] <klown> both of you need the same driver loaded for your cards.
[00:25] <pfred1> klown in synaptic i installed 185
[00:25] <obx> they work, but i don't have pen sensitivity or my eraser
[00:25] <kavurt> Roasted: you should edit /etc/default/grub file. there's a line GRUB_DEFAULT=0 . "0" means the first entry in the /boot/grub/grub.cfg . so you need to change that number. and then run update-grub
[00:26] <obx> is there a way to see what versions of things you HAVE installed?
[00:26] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: half a step ahead of you. I was jsut searching synaptic for nvidia
[00:26] <Roxxor> obx hm.. ok.. sorry.. i think thats something driver specific.. already tried google? :D
[00:26] <Adantan_Alex> Could not reserve enough space for object heap i get this when it installs jdk on ubuntu, any reason why?
[00:26] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: looks like I have nvidia-glx-173 installed now
[00:26] <klown> pfred1, id suggest upgrading and trying that
[00:26] <obx> yeah i have a guy on ubuntu forums helping me right now
[00:26] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: should I get rid of it
[00:26] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf yeah I've been there and done that but I guess I just didn't do it right good luck
[00:26] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, sec
[00:26] <Roxxor> obx sorry.. i dont have a wacom..
[00:26] <klown> lemme look at 173
[00:26] <obx> no it's alright haha
[00:26] <obx> i just don't know what else to do
[00:26] <pfred1> klown it was updating that got me to where I find myself now
[00:27] <obx> i've spent a better part of today doing this
[00:27] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: thanks. lol actually I been trying to get x server working on my LFS system. can't get the damn thing to compile. the system runs great though
[00:27] <pfred1> I really don't have time for this!
[00:27] <klown> pfred1, i doubt upgrading to a more current version of a driver could end up any worse than you already are.
[00:27] <pfred1> klown well you should have seen the system a little while ago
[00:28] <alex87> hey guys, is there any reason why ubuntu can't load as many tabs at once without choking (compared to windows). does it limit connections?
[00:28] <pfred1> klown just getting X to start with the new kernel was not for the faint of heart
[00:28] <klown> pfred1, i upgraded to 190 last week, might be the reason why my kernel upgrade went so smooth.
[00:28] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, just upgrade, dont remove.
[00:28] <Roxxor> ok.. gotta get sleep now ;) 1:28 AM... good night ;)
[00:29] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: so install the -190 as well as the -183 I already have? can do
[00:29] <pfred1> klown for some odd reason my synaptic has 185 as the highest version
[00:29] <pfred1> klown maybe that is my problem 185 doesn't work with the new kernel?
[00:30] <klown> pfred1, mine says "185" but the version is 190
[00:30] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: apt-get can not find nvidia-glx-190
[00:30] <pfred1> klown oh well now that sure muddies the water further
[00:30] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, try apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[00:31] <Crash8308> hey all
[00:31] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: ok that one it found.
[00:31] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: so you think it's a driver problem?
[00:31] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, part of it, yes
[00:31] <pfred1> klown there should have been a warning or something for all of us poor nvidia users
[00:31] <Crash8308> anyone know how to remove all NVIDIA drivers from the system so i can reinstall them? something wigged out and now i can't enable desktop effects with compiz
[00:31] <R1_> Hey, I just copied a bunch of wallpaper into the /usr/share/backgrounds folder but they aren't showing up  when i go to change background. Does anyone know why
[00:31] <ezzieyguywuf> :-)
[00:31] <klown> pfred1, poor nvidia users?  we have it good in linux :P
[00:32] <MsTegan> My webcam worked in 8.10 but not now in Karmic.  How can I use the live CD to find the old driver and copy it to my new OS?  AKA how do I locate drivers?
[00:32] <pfred1> klown I don't feel the love today!
[00:32] <klown> pfred1, go get an older ati card, and come back to me in a week :)
[00:32] <git__> anyone here know how much Apple bought lala for?
[00:32] <soreau> Crash8308: Can you pastebin the output of 'compiz &' from your terminal to pastebin.com?
[00:32] <pfred1> klown I am so regretting running that update this morning but yesterday was a rough day and i experienced a moment of weakness this morning
[00:32] <Crash8308> R1: I think you still need to add them in the backgrounds options
[00:33] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: wholly cow! I updated the driver, rebooted and BOW it works!
[00:33] <klown> pfred1, i just reinstalled 9.10 last week, and i was worried about the update also..this is the first time it has ever went so smooth.
[00:33] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, good :)
[00:33] <git__> who here use curl?
[00:34] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: ah but at the login screen I get garbage on the tv. maybe I need to edite my .conf now? (that scares me)
[00:34] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: try rebooting?
[00:34] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, before you edit the conf file, try sudo nvidia-settings
[00:34] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf heh this ain't Windows
[00:34] <jdgq> alguien habla español
[00:34] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf I'm already running the right kernel now
[00:35] <ezzieyguywuf> jdgq: si
[00:35] <Crash8308> soreau:  here you go http://pastebin.com/d5206338c
[00:35] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf Linux spot 2.6.31-16-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 3 22:00:22 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:35] <Dawgmatix> I am having some issues where two of my new 1.5 TB sata disks are not being recognized. I get a 'revalidation failed' message for the disks in dmesg
[00:35] <R1_> Crash8308, thanks I didn't see the add option initially
[00:36] <jdgq> epale mira sabes algo del w3af??
[00:36] <soreau> Crash8308: So I guess 'glxinfo' segfaults?
[00:36] <MsTegan> Help me find my webcam driver :(? Anybody? Anybody?
[00:36] <Dawgmatix> any pointers ?
[00:36] <klown> MsTegan, some info would help :P
[00:36] <pfred1> klown  apt-get install nvidia-glx-185 returns nvidia-glx-185 is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:36] <DerKlempner> Anybody else having system performance issues with the new 2.6.31-16 kernel?
[00:36] <jdgq> sabes algo del w3af??
[00:37] <klown> pfred1, what happened when u tried apt-get install nvidia-glx-190?
[00:37] <apocalypt> performance issues like what
[00:37] <MsTegan> klown :) It worked in 8.10 (which I have the live CD for) basically I want to try and copy the driver from the live CD (or download it) but I cant find the driver.
[00:37] <pfred1> klown donno never tried it I'll see
[00:37] <R1_> R1_
[00:37] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: nvidia-settings still doesn't work. It wants me to run nvidia-xconfig
[00:37] <R1_> R1
[00:37] <pfred1> klown E: Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-190
[00:37] <MsTegan> klown I'm using a Motion Eye built in webcam with a Sony Vaio
[00:38] <DerKlempner> Like VirtualBox suddenly becoming a CPU hog and running at about 20% of its speed prior the kernel upgrade.
[00:38] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf you'd better type with crossed fingers
[00:38] <jdgq> el w3af es un programa que analiza problemas en web vulnerabilidades, scriptt etc
[00:38] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: I installed 185
[00:38] <jdgq> alguien sabe de eso??
[00:38] <jdgq> :(
[00:38] <klown> pfred1, 185 worked for him..but im wondering if he upgraded kernel versions today
[00:38] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf yes i did that but the module isn't on my system
[00:38] <DerKlempner> !es > jdgq
[00:38] <Crash8308> soreau: what do you mean glxinfo segfaults?
[00:38] <pfred1> klown they could be running the wrong kernel version too
[00:39] <Guest21515> hola
[00:39] <pfred1> klown I can still do my binary driver with my old kernel here
[00:39] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: yea it seems that when I try to actually use the nvidia module is when I have problems. the default module does work
[00:39] <SJrX> I have a machine that cannot suspend or hibernate. When I suspend, the system powers off, but when it comes back on it sorta does nothing, it's on but not doing anything
[00:39] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, so the new version isnt working?
[00:40] <darkangel> hey does anyone know a way i can automatically delete my trash???? like set it up to delete every 24 hours or something
[00:40] <mylisto2> hey everyone...
[00:40] <mylisto2> I'm trying to get my dell photo 926 printer to work..it shows up, but is not printing anything
[00:40] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf check this out  less /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/96.43.13/2.6.31-16-generic/i686/log/make.log
[00:40] <git__> hello hello
[00:40] <git__> has any of u work with curl?
[00:40] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: the default driver, i.e. with no xorg.conf seems to work. when I run nvidia-config is when I have problems
[00:40] <ezzieyguywuf> I gotta go for dinner, be back in a bit guys
[00:40] <SJrX> I have a machine that cannot suspend or hibernate. When I suspend, the system powers off, but when it comes back on it sorta does nothing, it's on but not doing anything. The OS does seem to come back online, but the video stays dead it looks like
[00:41] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, ok :)
[00:41] <munz> /home/munz/.xchat2/bitchx.pl
[00:41] <Sacho> SJrX is it a laptop?
[00:41] <SJrX> Nope desktop
[00:42] <pfred1> ha ha I found my module!
[00:42] <geneticx> dang, I'm trying to configure a management port on a ASA5510 using ASDM but when I change the port's ip to another subnet I'm unable to access it from the other subnet... what am I missing?
[00:42] <klown> MsTegan, seems like lots of people are having the same issue with 9.10
[00:43] <pfred1> hey how come this module didn't get installed?
[00:43] <j2bv16> HI
[00:43] <j2bv16> I dont have sound in totem
[00:43] <j2bv16> I unisntall Pulseaudio for some problems
[00:43] <klown> pfred1, which module?
[00:43] <j2bv16> what can i do?
[00:43] <pfred1> klown where is your nvidia.ko file?
[00:43] <MsTegan> klown yeah its not my only problem with it but its my biggest problem.  Is there any way I can copy the driver?  I've spent days screwing around with gstreamer and my video but no luck...
[00:44] <jdgq> EXPL0IT 0 DAY IN VENT INTERESING PEOPLE???
[00:44] <jdgq> EXPL0IT 0 DAY IN VENT INTERESING PEOPLE???
[00:44] <jdgq> EXPL0IT 0 DAY IN VENT INTERESING PEOPLE???
[00:44] <FloodBot1> jdgq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:44] <pfred1> klown try locate nvidia.ko
[00:44] <klown> pfred1, few places :P
[00:44] <apocalypt> geneticx is the interface connected to the other subnet
[00:44] <zappy> buona sera
[00:44] <pfred1> klown locate nvidia.ko | grep lib
[00:44] <zappy> c'è qualcuno che parla italiano qui?
[00:45] <LjL> !it | zappy
[00:45] <keiya> Can I change the directory name used by Ubuntu One?
[00:45] <zappy> grazie
[00:45] <geneticx> apocalypt: yes it's plugged into a switch and then Im trying to access it from another computer plugged into the same switch
[00:45] <keiya> "
[00:45] <apocalypt> try to connect via ssh?
[00:46] <klown> pfred1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/335601/
[00:46] <pfred1> klown heh line 2 is the important one
[00:46] <geneticx> apocalypt: I'm unable to ping it
[00:47] <apocalypt> geneticx after changing did u restart the network on that machine?
[00:47] <klown> MsTegan, which vaio do you have?
[00:47] <pfred1> klown yup my /lib/modules/2.6.31-15-generic/updates/dkms/ is empty!
[00:47] <MsTegan> @klown
[00:47] <pfred1> klown time for a little cp magic over here
[00:47] <MsTegan> I have a vgn-fe870e
[00:49] <geneticx> apocalypt: yup
[00:49] <apocalypt> what tells ifconfig -a
[00:49] <Crash8308> does anyone know if 64 bit linux has adobe flash issues compared to 32 bit?
[00:49] <apocalypt> on this machine ping to new ip is working?
[00:49] <phyrrus> Crash8308 it does not
[00:49] <geneticx> apocalypt: no
[00:50] <musikgoat> Crash8308: flash sucks just the same between the two
[00:50] <j2bv16> I dont have sound in totem
[00:50] <apocalypt> please made a screen of your /etc/network/interfaces and one of ifconfig -a
[00:50] <bostux> Ubuntu 9.10 hp laptop having a problem where my audio will distort when a number of different events happen, ie. Seeking in totem, changing songs in banshee, loading a video from youtube, anybody have any clue? google hasn't turned much up for me
[00:50] <j2bv16> i need to see some streaming in internet
[00:50] <apocalypt> +make
[00:50] <j2bv16> Dont give me sound
[00:51] <j2bv16> i unistall pulseaudio
[00:51]  * MsTegan screams at Karmic
[00:51] <Crash8308> in that case, even if i switch to 32 bit adobe flash is going to be slow and choppy and flickery ?
[00:52] <razvan75> is there any way to configure a display resolution on a notebook with SiS integrated video card? all I want is to be able to see 1280x800, no 3d or anything fancy
[00:52] <pfred1> how do I check if my kernel has framebuffer support?
[00:52] <j2bv16> Someone help me?
[00:52] <Tictoon1> What is the window type for the administration popup dialog?
[00:52] <klown> MsTegan, have u tried ricoh..seems people are having to compile the kernel, and install ricoh for the webcam to work
[00:53] <bazhang> !sound | j2bv16
[00:53] <apocalypt> razvan is this resolution supported by your video card?
[00:53] <j2bv16> No one help me?
[00:53] <pfred1> let me rephrase that question does the shipped Ubuntu kernel  2.6.31-16-generic have framebuffer support in it?
[00:53] <bazhang> j2bv16, read those links
[00:53] <razvan75> yes
[00:53] <musikgoat> Crash8308: you can use either version of the library in 64 bit linux, you should try both... but your results from using the 32 bit lib in 64 bit linux will be the same as 32 bit lib in 32 bit linux
[00:53] <ChaoticXSinZ1> Anyone mind helping me with internet sharing?
[00:53] <j2bv16> Ok
[00:53] <sixtila> how to compile alsa from source tarballs
[00:54] <j2bv16> Im goin to do
[00:54] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing ChaoticXSinZ1
[00:54] <apocalypt> razvan75 then try to change it in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:54] <sixtila> plz help me do this - i m a newbie - how to compile alsa from source tarballs
[00:54] <ChaoticXSinZ1> My internet connection is on wlan0 and i'm trying to share through eth0
[00:54] <ChaoticXSinZ1> it works if i connect an ethernet cable directly to one computer
[00:54] <bazhang> http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php ChaoticXSinZ1
[00:54] <apocalypt> before that make a backup of that file
[00:54] <klown> MsTegan, http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Hardware/ricoh-webcam-r5u870-30296.shtml
[00:54] <sixtila> how to compile alsa from source tarballs
[00:55] <klown> MsTegan, like i said, you may have to recompile the kernel to get it working..and im not experienced enough to help ya with that.
[00:55] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware sixtila
[00:55] <j2bv16> thax  bazhang but, is totem the only that no give sound
[00:55] <apocalypt> sixtila there should included a README or INSTALL that tells u how to compile it
[00:55] <pfred1> sixtila I would advise against it usually one is better off sticking with ones package management for major pieces but if you are insistent there should be a README file that comes with the archive that has instructions
[00:55] <linuxguy2009> sixtila: Having sound issues with karmic?
[00:56] <tininek> Hi, what should I change in Karmic to put a different image while booting? My mom says she is still not satisfied with her new windows vista, sometimes she sees weird booting messages and the ubuntu logo. How can I modify this?
[00:56] <Tictoon1> What is the window type for the administration popup dialog?
[00:56] <Tictoon1> window class*
[00:57] <pfred1> tininek you're a bad boy!
[00:57] <tininek> any idea?
[00:58] <mom> tininek, she wants it to look like vista, xp, or windows 7?
[00:58] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1337381 tininek
[00:58] <tininek> vista
[00:58] <apocalypt> tininek try to install a vista theme for karmic...lol
[00:58] <tininek> she is learning that one, so i put it similar already
[00:59] <bazhang> tininek, look at the link I provided you
[00:59] <tininek> i only need to change the boot screen
[00:59] <apocalypt> bootscreens u will find there: gnome-look.org
[01:00] <tininek> uh thanx a lot you all
[01:00] <Tictoon1> What is the window class\ for the administration popup dialog?
[01:00] <mom> tininek, you can try startupmanager too
[01:00] <waieez> Hello could someone lead me through the unshield command?
[01:01] <emma> is anyone else able to view and hear the video on this page -- http://gawker.com/5419271/google-ceo-secrets-are-for-filthy-peop
[01:01] <ezzieyguywuf> k back
[01:01] <tininek> does startupmanager change the usplash theme,? mom
[01:01] <obx> does anyone have any advice about tablets?
[01:01] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf I found my module
[01:02] <klown> pfred1, were u able to load it?
[01:02] <pfred1> klown nope
[01:02] <waieez> anyone familiar with using unshield in the  terminal/command line
[01:02] <mom> tininek, yep
[01:02] <pfred1> klown I copied it to where is should go even ran a depmod -a but its a bust over here I'm new to 2.6 kernels
[01:03] <tininek> great mom ;)
[01:03] <mom> tininek, under appearance tab
[01:03] <mom> tininek, manage usplash themes
[01:03] <git__> midissh rules the world
[01:03] <pfred1> klown apparently demmod -a isn't quite the magic it used to be with these new kernels
[01:03] <git__> pfred1, get back in politics
[01:04] <pfred1> 20:03 < git__> pfred1, get back in politics
[01:04] <git__> pfred1 asks too many questions!
[01:04] <pfred1> git__ hey i need to fix this mess
[01:04] <MsTegan> Anyone else share these feelings lately? http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubuntu-karmic-koala,2484-13.html ?
[01:04] <git__> pfred1, do it on ur own
[01:04] <pfred1> git__ yes that is always how it is
[01:04] <apocalypt> emma it works
[01:04] <maco> git__: oi! be nice
[01:04] <git__> :)
[01:04] <DerKlempner> emma: I can.
[01:05] <git__> maco, pfred1 is a buddy of mine -- giving him a hard time :)
[01:05] <pfred1> git__ this problem seems so new The Google is of little help
[01:05] <mark__> I recently upgraded my system to the latest ubuntu version, since then my computer has lost it sound. I reinstalled the gnome media application and the sound began to work temporarily, I made upgrades again today and again the sound has stopped. I reinstalled the gnome media application but this time there is no sound?
[01:05] <git__> google updates its data every 2 days
[01:05] <waieez> if someone  could help me with this unshield thingy it'd help me fix my wireless problems
[01:05] <DerKlempner> mark__: PulseAudio?
[01:05] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: if you're still here, looks like nvidia built with no errors
[01:05] <maco> git__: 2 days? psshhh...i make a blog post and its on google within minutes
[01:06] <git__> maco, b/c u asked google to index ur blog :P
[01:06] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf yeah but did it copy the module to the /lib/modules tree?
[01:06] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf mine didn't
[01:06] <maco> git__: well its hosted on blogger, yeah... but the ubuntuforums? 10 minutes
[01:06] <mark__> Is pulseaudio an application I should have?
[01:06] <tininek> mark__: u can try to install pavucontrol, it helped me to configure sound
[01:07] <maco> git__: no "please reindex" request required
[01:07] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: how do I check that
[01:07] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf there seems to be some post-install that never ran on my system
[01:07] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf run updatedb then locate nvidia.ko
[01:07] <S0LIDUS> Hi, could anyone tell me of a good image program, something like photoshop.
[01:07] <DerKlempner> mark__: see my private message to you.
[01:08] <ezzieyguywuf> "cannot open temporary file for /var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db"
[01:08] <apocalypt> SOLIDUS try gimp
[01:08] <ezzieyguywuf> solidus: gimp son!
[01:08] <cwmoser> Gimp
[01:08] <tininek> S0LIDUS: GImp, krita
[01:08] <mark__> I'll give that a try Thanks..
[01:08] <pfred1> I thought Ubuntu was dropping Gimp?
[01:08] <S0LIDUS> ezzieyguywuf,  tininek, Thanks!
[01:08] <git__> i hope i didn't get a ticket ahaha =)
[01:09] <git__> ubuntu isn't dropping gimp ... gimp is not install as DEFAULT
[01:09] <apocalypt> ok 4 times gimp i guess it will be his choice
[01:09] <maco> pfred1: from the default install, yes
[01:09] <maco> pfred1: but itll still be available
[01:09] <git__> u can always apt-get install gimp
[01:09] <tininek> S0LIDUS also potosop works nicely on ubuntu with wine
[01:09] <git__> i look forward to gimp 3.0
[01:09] <pfred1> its still lame
[01:09] <git__> the new interface would be superb
[01:09] <cwmoser> I installed VMware Player.  Open Office Write seems to go gray at times when I have a VM loaded.  Compiz???
[01:09] <S0LIDUS> tininek, Yeah true. But not CS4!
[01:09] <hou5ton> wow ... just updated using Synaptic and sound is GONE
[01:10] <DerKlempner> I'mhoping GIMP 3.0 will finally put everything in one window...
[01:10] <hou5ton> it put in a new kernel
[01:10] <tininek> S0LIDUS I have CS4
[01:10] <S0LIDUS> tininek, WHAT! on ubuntu?
[01:10] <pfred1> hou5ton yeah my update didn't go so well here either my graphics are gone!
[01:10] <tininek> S0LIDUS: yes
[01:10] <S0LIDUS> tininek, How?
[01:10] <tininek> wine
[01:10] <git__> wut's the fastest processor out there?
[01:10] <hou5ton> pfred1:  it makes it pretty hard to keep pressing on when something so basic as sound gets lost with an update
[01:11] <Rabbitbunny> I'm adding 8gb of files to a .zip, How long should this take, and is this useful when the files are .iso?
[01:11] <S0LIDUS> tininek, Sorry, how did you install it?
[01:11] <td123> git__: intel i7 extreme
[01:11] <cwmoser> Possibly related is that my Spider Solitaire game - runs via wine - leaves artifacts on the screen when cards are dealt -- Compiz???
[01:11] <pRinCeess> kol;
[01:11] <ezzieyguywuf> klown, pfred1: so get this. with the default nv driver I get a display on both my computer monitor and my tv all the way until I get to the login screen. once I get there, the tv monitor shows garbage. if I crl+alt+f1 the tv screen shows me the prompt
[01:11] <pfred1> hou5ton yes i feel the same I'm no rookie and my graphics issue has me stumped
[01:11] <git__> td123, how fast is that?
[01:11] <td123> git__: it's as fast as a rabbit
[01:11] <git__> haha
[01:11] <pfred1> td123 I've seen a rabbit outrun a hawk in flight it's that fast?
[01:12] <td123> pfred1: no, it's a rabbit with a rocket attached to it
[01:12] <emma> DerKlempner: weird. im not sure why i can't. It starts but no audio and then it stops.
[01:12] <waieez> Anyone? unshield? .cab files... to get the .inf...
[01:12] <apocalypt> emma flashplayer installed?
[01:13] <emma> apocalypt: yes because Im usually able to view youtube with no problem.
[01:13] <arand> DerKlempner: they've been planning to, dunno what release it's scheduled (if at all time-specified) for.
[01:13] <DerKlempner> emma: Try a different Flash site to see if the problem is consistent.
[01:13] <hou5ton> hmm ... where/what is the file to adjust booting options in a dual boot setup?
[01:13] <tininek> S0LIDUS: I had installed many stupid windows things maybe innecessary, because i wanted to run some other windows programs. But CS4 I just installed it and tried. Im sure there is plenty of guides, and u can always try with winetricks, winedoors, crossover office...
[01:14] <Rabbitbunny> emma: Youtube goes silent? Restart firefox.
[01:14] <klown> pfred1, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/08/how-to-install-nvidia-190xx-drivers-in.html
[01:14] <DerKlempner> arand: Yeah, I've heard that.  I don't do anything high-end with GIMP, but I'm tired of having three separate windows to arrange on my desktop.
[01:14] <apocalypt> emma i guess the problem comes from that site if youtube etc. works
[01:14] <pfred1> klown yeah i have kharmic
[01:14] <S0LIDUS> tininek, That has made my day! Thanks dude, I wonder if Dreamweaver would work?
[01:14] <arand> hou5ton: grub2 or grub-legacy (9.10 fresh install)?
[01:15] <hou5ton> arand:  9.10
[01:15] <Rabbitbunny> emma: Seriously, restart it. It will complain that it's already running. kill that process. bam flash audio works.
[01:15] <pfred1> klown and i really shouldn't have to update my repository to get this to work I didn't mess with the repository to mess it up!
[01:15] <ezzieyguywuf> brb
[01:15] <klown> pfred1, its to add the nvidia repo, so u can get the updated driver.
[01:15] <emma> apocalypt: actually youtube has stopped working also.
[01:15] <arand> hou5ton: upgraded from 9.04 or new install? (wubi?)
[01:15] <klown> pfred1, .190
[01:15] <hou5ton> arand:  new install
[01:15] <Rabbitbunny> emma: Can you read this?
[01:15] <apocalypt> then do what Rabbit told to u
[01:16] <emma> Is there a way to kill flash or whatever the appropriate processes to force it to restart without restarting my machine?
[01:16] <tininek> but S0LIDUS just try first to install it with anything, dont stall trash with winetricks or wineedoors, try first without anything. I remember to have installed it to some friend without tricks
[01:16] <emma> Rabbitbunny: yes.
[01:16] <pfred1> klown yes i saw this fix about 10 hours ago and discounted it for the abovementioned reasons
[01:16] <Rabbitbunny> emma: Restart just firefox.
[01:16] <DerKlempner> emma: Just restart your web browser.
[01:16] <arand> hou5ton: ok, so then you are using grub2...
[01:16] <emma> okay i'll try that.
[01:16] <arand> grub2 | hou5ton
[01:16] <arand> !grub2 | hou5ton
[01:16] <S0LIDUS> tininek, Cool, thanks for the info!
[01:17] <pfred1> klown if this is the only valid fix then Ubuntu itself is broken
[01:17] <arand> hou5ton: the file to edit is /etc/default/grub
[01:17] <klown> pfred1, im not saying its the only valid fix..but its strange my card works fine with 190, and the new kernel, and yours doesnt.
[01:17] <arand> hou5ton: and that wiki page explains how.
[01:17] <Tictoon1> What is the window class\ for the administration popup dialog?
[01:17] <klown> pfred1, and thats the only real differene.
[01:17] <klown> difference*
[01:18] <jrib> Tictoon1: why?
[01:18] <pfred1> klown I was reading this: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=133129
[01:18] <tininek> S0LIDUS: I remember to have used Dreamweaver with wine many time ago. Now I guess it should be inneccesary. Do you really need it? there are many alternatives. And for best native use of Dreamweaver u could always use it in a virtual machine too. Because I guess u own a legal copy of window$ and Dreamweaver.
[01:19] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: my issue seems to be that when I add driver  "nvidia" my xserver no longer wants to start. why is this?
[01:19] <S0LIDUS> tininek, I own a legal copy of windows but not Dreamweaver. I got an illegal CS4 Mastersuite.
[01:19] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf ha ha try this  tail /var/log/kern.log
[01:20] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf the plot thickens!
[01:20] <Rabbitbunny> S0LIDUS: This channel is logged. Smooth move.
[01:20] <emma> doing killall firefox and then trying again fixed it. I wish i knew why computers don't behave the same every time.
[01:20] <Rabbitbunny> emma: I blame firefox.
[01:20] <DerKlempner> emma: It's just the way the plugin for Flash needs to integrate itself into Firefox.
[01:21] <Sacho> emma: I used to have problems with adobe flash, but then I removed the plugin and installed a different one
[01:21] <emma> DerKlempner: sure but flash was working say, 5 hours ago. What happened between then and now? And then how did restarting it fix it?
[01:21] <DerKlempner> emma: At least you didn't have to reboot the computer.
[01:21] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: vmap allocation fails.... RmInitAdatper fails....and no MTRR found.
[01:21] <pfred1> yup the new Ubuntu kernel and the nvidia driver don't work together
[01:21] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf Dec  5 19:48:20 spot kernel: [10959.626009] NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter found!
[01:21] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: the plot thickens indeed. this seems to be a very low level problem
[01:21] <S0LIDUS> Rabbitbunny, Its not something I will lose sleep over! Considering piratebay.org
[01:21] <DerKlempner> emma: I dunno, did you install any other extensions into Firefox since it last worked?
[01:21] <grendal_prime> Im trying to find out what modem is installed in a machine
[01:21] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf ubuntu miserably dropped the ball on this one
[01:21] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: I don't get that one. at least not in tail
[01:21] <emma> DerKlempner: nope.
[01:22] <tininek> latest gimp versions are said to be very similar to potosop interface, also there are some gimp versions that are a clone of potosop , like Gimpshop. If not any free program like Photofiltre, paint.net run well under wine. My best choice would still be to use Krita and latests gimp versions
[01:22] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf you may be looking at other errors less the file and read further up?
[01:22] <Flare183> grendal_prime: run sudo lshw in the terminal and look for modem in the output.
[01:22] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: what to do what to do. lemme check hold on
[01:22] <tininek> S0LIDUS: that up
[01:23] <pfred1> ah ha! I can't use the latest nvidia driver
[01:23] <reZo> t
[01:23] <DerKlempner> emma: And no other upgrades/updates since then?
[01:24] <dooglus> when I installed ubuntu 9.10 it offered to encrypt my home directory.  I let it.  But now, when I access files, it only updates their access time the first time I access them.  Is there a workaround for this?
[01:25] <emma> DerKlempner: none. in fact this problem simotaneously was found in the firefox i have running on my host os, and also the firefox i have running in my virtualmachine (which is running ubuntu+1)
[01:25] <maco> dooglus: sounds more like you want to get rid of the relatime option in /etc/fstab for mounting your drive
[01:25] <maco> dooglus: relatime only updates atime if the atime is older than changed time
[01:25] <maco> dooglus: so you have feweer disk accesses and a faster machine
[01:26] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: Dec  5 20:13:15 pavilion kernel: [   13.369344] nvidia 0000:01:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
[01:26] <DerKlempner> emma: What version of Ubuntu?
[01:26] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: so...... yea
[01:26] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf I think i figured out what my problem is I can't use the latest drivers they don't support my hardware
[01:26] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, did u change ur conf file again?
[01:26] <emma> DerKlempner: I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 on my physical machine and 10.4 on my virtual machine.
[01:26] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: so you're just going to revert to an older driver then?
[01:27] <david> david
[01:27] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf thats the plan here
[01:27] <emma> DerKlempner: that video had the same problem in both OSes at the same time.
[01:27] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: xserver will only start with no xorg.conf, i.e. the default driver
[01:27] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: good luck
[01:27] <S0LIDUS> Could anyone tell me whether 9.10 supports wireless -N?
[01:27] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, can you paste me your xorg in pastebin again please (the modified one)
[01:27] <grendal_prime> hsf modem
[01:28] <j3rg> hey one fixed bad sectors on their hard drive through ubuntu yet
[01:28] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: no prob just give me a sec
[01:28] <Flare183> j3rg: I don't think you can fix bad sectors on a hard drive at all, I'm not 100% sure though.
[01:29] <pfred1> Flare183 I think you can map around them
[01:29] <Flare183> pfred1: Ahh ok, that's a new one for me then.
[01:29] <pfred1> Flare183 AFAIK Linux can even map bad memory
[01:29] <Flare183> pfred1: Yeah I knew that :P
[01:30] <pfred1> Flare183 but yeah even Microsoft can map a bad HDD
[01:30] <pfred1> Flare183 but if you have bad sectors its time for a new HDD
[01:30] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: http://pastebin.com/m70d22d9f
[01:30] <S0LIDUS> Could anyone tell me whether 9.10 supports wireless -N?
[01:30] <Flare183> pfred1: I didn't know that, but I agree with the second statement.
[01:31] <HideMe> where are the icons stored?
[01:32] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, and do ya mind posting your current conf file?
[01:32] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf smoking! nvidia               4704212  0
[01:32] <j3rg> damn
[01:32] <j3rg> anywayz
[01:32] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: my current conf file is null
[01:32] <j3rg> thanks for the info
[01:32] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, nothing in it?
[01:32] <j3rg> well imma go n eat now
[01:32] <j3rg> later
[01:32] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: what's that mean? lol
[01:32] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: precicely
[01:32] <ezzieyguywuf> (sp)
[01:32] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf means I have a nvidia module loaded now
[01:32] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: woohoo!
[01:32] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: keep me updated!
[01:32] <Beezie> S0LIDUS, as far as i know it does
[01:33] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf yes time to try old xorg.conf file wit hit
[01:33] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, have you tried loading a VERY basic conf file?
[01:33] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: yes I have. let me show you the most basic I've tried
[01:33] <ubuntu> first time I've just connect with wireles internet by linux ubuntu 9.04 kubuntu dasn't
[01:34] <ezzieyguywuf> http://pastebin.com/mdb3595
[01:34] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, and the same thing with that?  X wont start?
[01:34] <S0LIDUS> Beezie, I would need to know for definite as that would be the only reason I would upgrade from 8.04
[01:36] <Beezie> S0LIDUS, don't look good.  ----->    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1316061
[01:37] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: yes, it won't start
[01:37] <BobO> have been reading all day, still cant change the number of desktops in compiz HELP PLEASE
[01:37] <S0LIDUS> Beezie, Thanks for the info! Thats Ubuntu's biggest problem, lack of hardware support.
[01:37] <xjkx> i want to download from apt-get and not install, just get the files and all the dependencies and install each of them with dpkg, how do i do it
[01:38] <Beezie> it rocks in some areas and needs improvement in others....
[01:38] <Sacho> xjkx:  -d
[01:39] <S0LIDUS> Beezie, Yep ! I am surprised though.
[01:40] <ezzieyguywuf> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device PCI:1:0:0.
[01:40] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, and thats with the modified conf file?
[01:41] <klown> pfred1, no luck?
[01:41] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: that's with the basic one
[01:41] <pfred1> klown it seems OK
[01:41] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, try removing the glx module, and see if it loads.
[01:41] <klown> pfred1, what did u do?
[01:42] <pfred1> klown I had ot use an older nvidia driver seems the latest ones don't like my old gfx card
[01:42] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: remove it form the kernel or from the .conf file?
[01:42] <jeffreyf> Quick question on rsync: want to bidirectionally sync an external drive folder /music folder with my /home/user/music folder.  The idea is I want to make sure both places have the same files.  Thanks
[01:42] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, excuse me.  remove it from the conf file.
[01:43] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: ok will do.
[01:43] <chatZilla_> why does ubuntu use vlc-plugin if it doesn't work?
[01:44] <pfred1> klown (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so
[01:44] <xjkx> Sacho: yea, but where are the files i downloaded
[01:45] <Shwack> Is there a channel affiliated with the Empathy IM client or should I ask in here?
[01:45] <pfred1> yeah wally! I'm back in the saddle again
[01:45] <xjkx> thats why i asked, thought i did something wrong
[01:45] <Sacho>                         find -name? :o
[01:45] <xjkx> Sacho: too much data =s
[01:45] <Adantan_Alex> how do i use command to extract a .zip if possible?
[01:45] <xjkx> long search
[01:45] <BobO> is there any chanels for compiz help?
[01:45] <Sacho> sec
[01:45] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: (II) "glx" will be loaded by default.......
[01:45] <pfred1> Adantan_Alex unzip
[01:46] <Adantan_Alex> huh?
[01:46] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, mine doesnt have "glx"
[01:46] <jota-> Hello... I have a situation I need help with... I deleted my /etc/ dir by mistake, as far as I know there's really nothing I can do about it but reinstall, so... This machine has no optical drive so my plan is to follow the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet and do an online installation BUT... I cannot copy the needed files to my /boot dir because I can't sudo because I don't have a /etc/passwd file...
[01:46] <pfred1> Adantan_Alex or gzip -d
[01:46] <ezzieyguywuf> lemme try unloading it from the kernel
[01:46] <apocalypt> jeffreyf use a bash. rsync -auz drive1/folder drive2/foulder + rsync -auz drive2/folder drive1/folder in a cron it should work
[01:46] <SeattleOtaku> S0LIDUS are you looking for n-only?  I connect with one in b/g/n mode.
[01:46] <apocalypt> i guess
[01:46] <jota-> my question is: Can I just go into recovery mode using grub and copy this files into /boot?
[01:46] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: I guess I can try blacklisting it?
[01:46] <xJust> ok guys :) .. using pidgen ,, i can chat to yahoo users ,, can get in "Chat rooms" ,, but can't use voice .. and ppl don't see me type in "chat" no matter how much i try ... what is this ??
[01:47] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, i wouldnt try removing it from the kernel yet
[01:47] <jota-> (I'm open suggestions if anyone comes up with a better solution)
[01:47] <ezzieyguywuf> klown why's that?
[01:47] <jota-> *to
[01:47] <S0LIDUS> SeattleOtaku, I have a connection in G, but I would rather it where in -N.
[01:47] <Shwack> when people IM me with Empathy, I have to double click their name to open the chat, is there a way I can make it auto open the chat???
[01:47] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, i dont really see a need.  you did update your current driver version, and its still not picking it up correctly.
[01:47] <rivoot> jota- what about runing a live cd from an USB stick?
[01:48] <S0LIDUS> jota-, Have you tried a USB install?
[01:48] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: correct.
[01:49] <xJust> ok guys :) .. using pidgen ,, i can chat to yahoo users ,, can get in "Chat rooms" ,, but can't use voice .. and ppl don't see me type in "chat" no matter how much i try ... what is this ??
[01:49] <jota-> that's an option... but if I can actually just go into recovery mode and copy the needed files to /boot I think it'b easier than the usb install
[01:49] <xJust> ok guys :) .. using pidgen ,, i can chat to yahoo users ,, can get in "Chat rooms" ,, but can't use voice .. and ppl don't see me type in "chat" no matter how much i try ... what is this ??
[01:50] <rivoot> jota- Run a live distro from an usb and copy the files into /boot
[01:51] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: lsmod does NOT currently show glx. that could be a problem
[01:51] <Adantan_Alex> can i use file roller to extract something?
[01:51] <rivoot> http://livedistro.org/
[01:51] <S0LIDUS> Anyone got a link to ubuntu xchat help Docs?
[01:51] <Adantan_Alex> in command line? i forgot to add
[01:51] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, post your var/log/Xorg.0.log again please
[01:51] <xJust> ok guys :) .. using pidgen ,, i can chat to yahoo users ,, can get in "Chat rooms" ,, but can't use voice .. and ppl don't see me type in "chat" no matter how much i try ... what is this ??
[01:51] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: yea let me pastebin it
[01:51] <Adantan_Alex> !repeat | xJust
[01:51] <Guest40272> hello. whenever i turn on the computer it asks me to enter the password for the keyring because the wifi needs it. how do i avoid this\
[01:52] <xJust> Adantan_Alex, :( wookay ...
[01:52] <Guest40272> and does anyone know of a dock that behaves like the mac one
[01:52] <Guest40272> ?
[01:53] <BobO> i cant change the number of desktops in compiz any ideas?
[01:53] <S0LIDUS> Guest40272, Cairo-Dock
[01:53] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: http://pastebin.com/m6e269875
[01:53] <xJust> Linux Security Qustion .. am I Hackable .. using chat clients and all .. ??
[01:53] <maco> BobO: how did you try?
[01:53] <Shwack> Guest40272: Cairo-Dock as suggest by S0LIDUS
[01:53] <angelus> i dont get the keyring asking for a password, how do i make it ask me for it
[01:53] <jota-> rivoot  I think I'll give that a try
[01:53] <S0LIDUS> xJust, You are always hackable!
[01:53] <maco> BobO: open up the compiz config manager then in general settings you can set the horizontal virtual size to however many desktops you want
[01:53] <BobO> compiz manager
[01:53] <phongphrai> i need help please!!!    i have no sound in ubuntu karmic ...only sound in a game but no more in video and music
[01:53] <rivoot> jota- Hope it works
[01:53] <jota-> Thanks to everyone who answered
[01:54] <Guest40272> Shwack, does it require a really good pc?
[01:54] <dav> gnome gdm quesiton - i tried to toy around with the accessibility option, and now the login screen is ugly white, not like the slick black it used to be. I'm positive all the options are set exactly the way they were, so something seems to have been irreversibly changed in that screens. Any thoughts?
[01:54] <xJust> SOLIDUS, and how do i prevent it ??? ^^ .. i thought linux is secured
[01:54] <rivoot> phongphrai Already checked the volume settings?
[01:54] <angelus> Guest40272 AWN works as well, and i beleive some have said Docky is a good one too
[01:54] <S0LIDUS> jota-, No problem!
[01:54] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: what's your current status?
[01:54] <BobO> 4 but it wont change have been reading all day
[01:54] <BobO> cant figure it out
[01:54] <rumpsy> Is there anu toll to download rapidshare files
[01:54] <SeattleOtaku> S0LIDUS What does 'lspci' show as your Wireless controller?  Can't tell further here, as mine's an Intel a/b/g.
[01:54] <breinera> Adantan_Alex: on the command line you can type "file-roller name_of_file.zip" and it will start the graphical version of file-roller and extract the file
[01:54] <rumpsy> Is there an tool to download rapidshare files
[01:54] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf I'm running with the nvidia binary driver
[01:54] <phongphrai> rivoot, yes because the sound in my game plays just fine
[01:54] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/335625/
[01:54] <rivoot> xJust Linux isn't invulnerable, there's no such system
[01:54] <rumpsy> Is there an tool to download rapidshare files
[01:54] <Shwack> Guest40272: I am in no position to say - Can your comp run the compiz cube?
[01:55] <jeffreyf> apocalypt...it will be a one time script...is it "bash. rsync -auz drive1/folder drive2/foulder + rsync -auz drive2/folder drive1/folder" (no quotes?)??
[01:55] <Guest40272> Shwack, im new, how would i tell?
[01:55] <xJust> rivoot, so it's not easier then any to hack .. and .. not more secure then any .. and what about "viruses" ??
[01:55] <S0LIDUS> xJust, UFW would be a start, but the strongest system is only as strong as its weakest link! ; )
[01:55] <xJust> what's UFW ?
[01:55] <NickM|Netbook> i need help
[01:55] <NickM|Netbook> i cant get bash files to run
[01:56] <Shwack> Guest40272: What are the specs of your comp?
[01:56] <apocalypt> jeffreyf in a cron it will work how often u want it to run
[01:56] <rivoot> xJust You almost don't have to worry about viruses, almost all of them are focused in windows machines
[01:56] <maco> xJust: uncomplicated firewall. a command line wrapper to iptables, the builtin firewall
[01:56] <S0LIDUS> SeattleOtaku, My driver is meant to be supported but does not work with -N!
[01:56] <maco> xJust: there's also gufw, a gui for it
[01:56] <pfred1> NickM|Netbook is CWD on your path?
[01:56] <BobO> H & V change but the number of desk wont move off of !
[01:56] <NickM|Netbook> first gnome tried to run them in wine
[01:56] <blackfate_> NickM|Netbook use chmod 755 file
[01:56] <NickM|Netbook> pfred1, no
[01:56] <NickM|Netbook> ok
[01:56] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: ok I'm trying it
[01:56] <nicanor5> good evening
[01:56] <pfred1> NickM|Netbook then you're calling it with ./ right?
[01:56] <CShadowRun> xJust: At the end of the day your system is only as secure as you. There really arn't that many ways to get infected on any operating system without you manually doing it yourself.
[01:56] <S0LIDUS> !UFW xJust,
[01:56] <apocalypt> bash means u have to make a bash script u know
[01:56] <NickM|Netbook> pfred1, yes
[01:56] <CShadowRun> xJust: the fact is, that anyone who gets infected, usually got infected because they didn't think before installing something.
[01:57] <angelus> !UFW | xJust
[01:57] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: so that's not giving you any problems? your xorg.conf has driver  "nvidia" in it?
[01:57] <pfred1> NickM|Netbook OK just checking easy mistake for some to make
[01:57] <maco> xJust: by default ubuntu is configured not to deny/reject packets on any port; however, since no services are listening on any ports by default, this doesn't matter. it behaves the same as a drop
[01:57] <rivoot> xJust Linux is a very secure system in general, with a lots of security tools... Indeed, it's safer than other OSs
[01:57] <NickM|Netbook> pfred1, it tells me permission denied
[01:57] <Guest40272> Shwack, 3gig ram, dual core 2.00
[01:57] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf yes now it does i switched to my old working conf file
[01:57] <Shwack> Guest40272: You will be fine
[01:57] <S0LIDUS> xJust, Its a basic firewall for linux!
[01:57] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: hrm. does your lsmod list glx?
[01:57] <xJust> thanks everyone
[01:58] <Guest40272> Shwack, got a link or guide on installing ecc.?
[01:58] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf no but I don't think it is supposed to
[01:58] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf glx isn't a kernel module AFAIK
[01:58] <SeattleOtaku> Guest40272, Gnome Do has another dock too
[01:58] <S0LIDUS> Guest40272, Cairo-Dock is the best Mac dock I have seen!
[01:58] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf its just an X librar7
[01:58] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf its just an X library
[01:59] <Shwack> Guest40272: I don't, but I'll see if i can't find something for you - are you on 9.10?
[01:59] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: oh. I see
[01:59] <Guest40272> Shwack, yes i am, fresh install, less tahn an hour
[01:59] <phongphrai> anyone know how i could have sound only in a game but not in music or videos??
[01:59] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf but nvidia binary driver needs special version of glx to work right I'm pretty sure
[01:59] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: it confused me because its in the modules section of the xorg.conf
[01:59] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf X has its own modules
[01:59] <foo> how can I remove smart disk checking in ubuntu
[01:59] <hardcorecowboy> I was looking for some help with a squeezed webcam image through Cheese on my HP Mini 1116NR?
[01:59] <foo> gnome is bugging me that my drive is going bad
[01:59] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: your xorg.conf did not work for me
[02:00] <NickM|Netbook> hello
[02:00] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf and they're not all well hardly any are also kernel modules binary gfx being an exception to that rule
[02:00] <NickM|Netbook> i still cant get this file to run
[02:00] <b14ck> i just put in a usb drive, how can i find it on the command line?
[02:00] <b14ck> i dont see it in /mnt
[02:00] <b14ck> but it is saying 'devices recently plugged in'
[02:00] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: I see.
[02:00] <breinera> b14ck: check /media
[02:00] <blackfate_> NickM|Netbook how do you try to run it?
[02:01] <NickM|Netbook> blackfate_, from the terminal ./file.sh
[02:01] <solexious> Using adobe's flash player, when I click on a button my mouse changes from a hand to the mouse pointer, then back, and the button is not clicked. Any ideas how to fix this?
[02:01] <blackfate_> NickM|Netbook ./file   this is how... with ./
[02:01] <breinera> b14ck: you can run the command "mount" without options and it should tell you
[02:01] <Shwack> Guest40272: Applications > Softare Center >  Search for Cairo Doc
[02:01] <blackfate_> NickM|Netbook is it executable?
[02:01] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, can you post /var/log/Xorg.0.log again please.  i want to see if theres any difference
[02:01] <NickM|Netbook> blackfate_, it's a bash file
[02:01] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: sure
[02:01] <blackfate_> NickM|Netbook file needs to be executable...
[02:01] <angelus> NickM|Netbook there is a difference b/w an executable file and a bash one
[02:01] <NickM|Netbook> blackfate_, but i get permission denied
[02:01] <zen> #ubuntu-cn
[02:01] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, last time it had an issue with your display
[02:01] <Guest40272> Shwack, i will
[02:02] <blackfate_> NickM|Netbook then use sudo... OR... do this... sh file.sh
[02:02] <NickM|Netbook> angelus, then how do you make it executable
[02:02] <t0rc> anyone know how to get notification sounds in ubuntu for Empathy?
[02:02] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: http://pastebin.com/m1a65e7f7 yea I took a quick look it appears to all be the same stuff
[02:02] <pfred1> NickM|Netbook: chmod o+x
[02:02] <angelus> NickM|Netbook sudo chmod +x /path/to/file.extention
[02:02] <NickM|Netbook> ty
[02:03] <Guest40272> Shwack, would it be GLX-Dock(Cairo-dock with opengl)?
[02:03] <ezzieyguywuf> pfred1: I remember all the friggin libs and stuff  I had to compile for x in my LFS, lol
[02:03] <Shwack> Guest40272: That is what i am assuming - I just downloaded it and am trying to get it working now so i can give you better instructions
[02:03] <hardcorecowboy> I was wondering if anyone has seen a squished image in cheese on a HP Mini 1116NR with the built in webcam
[02:03] <d3c3p710n> ezzieyguywuf, i built a LFS once...not again haha
[02:03] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf I had to build X once because it had a bug in it and it took that system over 4 hours
[02:03] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, it is.  this is really weird.
[02:03] <ezzieyguywuf> d3c3p710n: I think it's pretty fun :-)
[02:04] <Guest40272> Shwack, thanks man, btw do i need to enable "all software" in the softw3are center? now it says "get free software"
[02:04] <SeattleOtaku> Guest40272, Cairo (two versions, one is GLX) and Gnome Do should both be in the Software Center.
[02:04] <d3c3p710n> ezzieyguywuf, yeah if you have no life for a week, it'll occupy you pretty weel :P
[02:04] <Guest40272> SeattleOtaku, if i search cairo i only get the glx
[02:04] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: I completely agree. if you ask me, it seems that for some reason either the nvidia module or my driver is not working properly
[02:04] <rob0917> torc: go to empathy ,edit ,preferences,notifications
[02:04] <ezzieyguywuf> d3c3p710n: yea it took me a little longer than that but you'r right
[02:05] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, just for giggles lspci | grep nVidia
[02:05] <souler> Hey guise why did my top panel got "inverted" the clock is on the left side along with the tray icons. It should be on the right one.
[02:06] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7350 LE] (rev a1)
[02:06] <pfred1> ezzieyguywuf the nvidia module is your gfx driver
[02:06] <breinera> souler: just right click and uncheck lock to panel, then you can right click and move the items around
[02:06] <Guest66461> hola
[02:06] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: I'm gonna try system >> administration >> hardware drivers
[02:06] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, ok.
[02:07] <Shwack> Guest40272: I am currently using Cairo-Dock by installing the package found in software center - no you dont need to enable all softare in software center
[02:07] <SeattleOtaku> Guest40272, the other may be from a different depository, sorry.
[02:07] <insomniackoala> hi, anybody have a an idea about how can i use torrent magnet links for firefox & transmission?
[02:07] <Guest40272> SeattleOtaku, ill use the glx
[02:07] <Guest40272> Shwack, ill try\
[02:07] <souler> breinera: how do I move it? It won't let me drag even though I unchecked it
[02:08] <breinera> souler: if you are moving it across one that is locked, then it won't let you all need to be unlocked before you can rearrange them
[02:08] <S0LIDUS> Guest40272, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[02:08] <trism> insomniackoala: transmission doesn't support magnet links yet, they are planning on having it implemented for the 1.80 release
[02:09] <souler> breinera: I unlocked all of them but the only one I can move is the part with tray icons
[02:09] <insomniackoala> thank you trism
[02:10] <Shwack> Guest40272: After installing the package  press Alt + F2 and type  "cairo-dock & disown"  without the quotations
[02:10] <apocalypt> souler just right click on the icon u want to move. uncheck "lock on panel" and then click move
[02:10] <Guest40272> Shwack, i launched it from the accessories menu, but the opengl one doesnt work, if flashes and stuff. the no open gl one works it seems, i still gotta customize and explore
[02:10] <breinera> souler: in what order are the icons, is the clock as far left as possible?
[02:10] <apocalypt> i guess it shozld work
[02:10] <apocalypt> should
[02:11] <souler> breinera:  yes
[02:11] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: that didn't work
[02:11] <souler> breinera: clocks is on the left
[02:11] <l3ns> hi everyone
[02:11] <AnonYmous2> anyone here familiar with multiseat-x?
[02:11] <Guest40272> Shwack, all this makes me wonder if my graphics card is installed correctly. i have an ati x1250, how do i check if all the drivers are loaded well and all
[02:11] <scalaLove> I installed openArena but I have problems : no sound, graphics flicker ???
[02:11] <insomniackoala> hi l3ns
[02:11] <Shwack> Guest40272: if you have an openGL graphics card you may want to make sure you are using the correct drivers.  Check System > Administration > Hardware drivers
[02:11] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, u did activate that driver, correct?
[02:12] <angelus> Guest40272 try avant-window-manager
[02:12] <SeattleOtaku> Guest40272, aha, it installs both; I knew I remembered two a while back. :)
[02:12] <Guest40272> SeattleOtaku, ya i know, makes sense
[02:12] <_ba> any idea why I can't whois domains i get this error: getaddrinfo(whois.crsnic.net): Name or service not known
[02:12] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: yes I did
[02:12] <Guest40272> Shwack, it says no proprietary drivers are in use and it doesnt list any ati\
[02:13] <l3ns> i have like 2000 pics generated automatically in a single folder with a filename imagetest1xxxxxxxxxx.jpg; xxxx are random numbers. how do I create a batch file that will delete all these files w/out me pressing the Y and enter key... pls help
[02:13] <S0LIDUS> Guest40272, sudo apt-get install envy
[02:13] <scalaLove> I installed openArena but I have problems : no sound, graphics flicker ???
[02:13] <breinera> souler: do you have a window selector at the top? and if so did you unlock it?
[02:13] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: I had to remove my xorg.conf to get x to start again, i.e. deactivate the driver
[02:13] <nicanor5> hello, I have a problem with grub, I had ubuntu 9.04 and needed to install ubuntu 8.04 so I installed it in a different partition, but now I can't boot ubuntu 9.04 it wont appear in the grub menu
[02:13] <Guest40272> S0LIDUS, what does that do?
[02:13] <scalaLove> I installed openArena but I have problems : no sound, graphics flicker ???
[02:13] <souler> breinera:  window selector?
[02:14] <S0LIDUS> Guest40272, Sorry it will assist you in installing your ATI drivers!
[02:14] <AnonYmous2> Guest40272, S0LIDUS: the app is envyng
[02:14] <SeLEcto> h
[02:14] <SeLEcto> root 7655 0.0 0.0 0 0 pts/0 Z< 03:04 0:00 [Xorg] <defunct>
[02:14] <SeLEcto> woops :P
[02:14] <AnonYmous2> `envyng -t` allows you to very easily install the ATI & nvidia propietary drivers
[02:14] <nakake> i have ubuntu-restricted-extrasinstaled how come i can't play mp3
[02:14] <breinera> souler: how do you change between windows?  The window selector is a program that shows the different programs running on your computer with icons so that you can easily change from one program to another
[02:14] <klown> ezzieyguywuf, open up synaptic and make sure ur nvidia-glx-173-dev files were updated to nvidia-glx-185-dev
[02:15] <SeLEcto> Hello people, ive been having some problems with X server lately, (its a dedicated server). And now i see this, [Xorg] <defunct> when i ps -aux
[02:15] <scalaLove> I installed openArena but I have problems : no sound, graphics flicker ???
[02:15] <AnonYmous2> seems the 3D graphics n 9.10 is pretty screwed
[02:15] <jub369> How can i make it so people with  windows MSN can see my Amsn webcame and back
[02:15] <foo> what's the advantage of using one partition for / as opposed to two partitions with / and /home ?
[02:15] <souler> breinera: I have them at the bottom bar.
[02:15] <AnonYmous2> jub369: empathy IM w telepathy extra's
[02:15] <l3ns> i typed rm imagetest* but i have to type y and enter key for 2000 times.. how do i create a batch file to automatically delete the needed files
[02:15] <Shwack> foo i use two partitions with / and /home
[02:16] <Shwack> following the advice of somebody from this channel
[02:16] <AnonYmous2> jub369: i know pidgin also has video & audio capability now
[02:16] <foo> Shwack: thnks
[02:16] <foo> thanks
[02:16] <miraiw> foo: you can move your configs to a new install easily
[02:16] <git__> curl error handling rules the world
[02:16] <usser_> SeLEcto, look at the log files, see what happened, question is what x is doing on the server anyway
[02:16] <nakake> someone pls
[02:16] <nakake> hello please
[02:16] <ezzieyguywuf> klown: I have pfred helping me out in a separate room. I'll let you know how that goes
[02:16] <angelus> foo if you have a dedicated /home partition, you can do a clean install when required w/o having to backup your files (although backing up is still a good idea),
[02:16] <kian> foo, in theory you should be able to install new or different without losing your data saved in home
[02:16] <AnonYmous2> nakake: wazup?
[02:17] <trism> l3ns: you can use -f if you're really sure you globbed all the right files
[02:17] <breinera> souler: there must be a hidden applet that is locking the bar and not letting you move things around, sorry but you might just have to right click on the top and see if you can find it, other than that I don't know
[02:17] <nakake> how to play mp3 in ubuntu liveCD
[02:17] <Shwack> foo:  i can't tell you if there are any advantages to putting them on the same, only that having /home on a different partition allows you to do clean installs with future versions easily
[02:17] <git__> ezzieyguywuf, there's a private room?  can u tell me how to have access?
[02:17] <kian> new or different os*
[02:17] <foo> kian: gotcha
[02:17] <git__> nakake, u need to get media ubuntu
[02:17] <scalaLove> I installed openArena but I have problems : no sound, graphics flicker ???
[02:17] <nakake> AnonYmous2: i have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras, what now
[02:17] <SeLEcto> usser_ i'm trying to help my friend, he uses NxServer to remotely control the server. But seems like both nxserver and X have given up
[02:17] <AnonYmous2> nakake: are the apps not playing at all, or are you having audio issues?
[02:17] <scalaLove> I installed openArena but I have problems : no sound, graphics flicker ???
[02:18] <git__> nakake, how do u know u've installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[02:18] <AnonYmous2> SeLEcto: `ssh -X user@ip-address`
[02:18] <AnonYmous2> ?
[02:18] <nakake> git__: because i just did it
[02:18] <miraiw> scalaLove: turn off glsl?
[02:18] <usser_> SeLEcto, yep
[02:18] <kian> Anyone using empathy or pidgin with gtalk or google talk?
[02:18] <AnonYmous2> kian: yip
[02:18] <l3ns> trism, so i do rm -f imagetest* ?
[02:18] <nakake> the music player is telling me that the suitable plugins aren't available
[02:18] <breinera> kian: yep
[02:18] <scalaLove> miraiw how?
[02:18] <nakake> i need to install mpeg-1 layer3
[02:19] <trism> l3ns: yes
[02:19] <SeLEcto> AnonYmous2 that just send me back to ssh login?
[02:19] <AnonYmous2> nakake: which player? u have the medibuntu repository in ur apt?
[02:19] <l3ns> trism, ah yea it's force remove
[02:19] <nakake> AnonYmous2: how do i get medibuntu
[02:19] <AnonYmous2> SeLEcto: able to ssh on remote machine at all?
[02:19] <{ImPeRiOs}``[HaC> Pershendetje Mire Se Ju Gjeta Te Gjithve :))
[02:19] <SeLEcto> usser_ I cannot see anything wierd in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:19] <l3ns> woah that ended my problem! thanks trism  :)
[02:19] <AnonYmous2> http://www.medibuntu.org/
[02:19] <nakake> pls
[02:19] <_GoRDoN_> Hi!! I heared there is a way to upgrade linux-* packages without need to boot??
[02:19] <nakake> tell me how
[02:19] <SeLEcto> AnonYmous2 Yeah, i'm in the machine via SSH atm.
[02:20] <nakake> i just want to play mp3
[02:20] <nakake> tell me fastest way
[02:20] <usser_> SeLEcto, hm, ok how does your friend start xorg?
[02:20] <AnonYmous2> SeLEcto: x process running?
[02:20] <valros> why the hell does a file transfer just keep slowing down to nothing at all? ive seen this problem on many versions and have yet to receive any hint of an explanation
[02:20] <ezzieyguywuf> git__: I think he just created the room himself
[02:20] <SeLEcto> usser_ It's supposed to be auto as far as i know.
[02:20] <SeLEcto> AnonYmous2 sec
[02:20] <SeLEcto> AnonYmous2 root 7655 0.0 0.0 0 0 pts/0 Z< 03:04 0:00 [Xorg] <defunct>
[02:21] <AnonYmous2> nakake: use rhythmbox. if it's having problems (like codecs), you need to allow the download of codec driver
[02:21] <AnonYmous2> google:medibuntu
[02:21] <usser_> SeLEcto, defunct process is a zombie whose parent has died without waiting for child to terminate
[02:21] <usser_> SeLEcto, so you gotta figure out whats starting X
[02:21] <bazhang> !nickspam > FireWall
[02:22] <nakake> AnonYmous2: yes thats the exact problem - how do dl codec
[02:22] <SeLEcto> usser_ well since i've got my hands on the server, i've been starting X cuzz it's not starting on reboot.
[02:22] <foo> is it safe to assume ext4 is stable on ubuntu server 9.10?
[02:22] <bazhang> nakake, install ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[02:22] <nakake> AnonYmous2: no packages with the requested plugins found: mpeg-1 layer 3 mp3 decoder
[02:22] <nakake> bazhang: i did
[02:22] <nakake> bazhang: what now
[02:22] <SeLEcto> usser_ which is kinda stupid i know.
[02:22] <AnonYmous2> valros: run `mtr www.google.com` to see what your throughput is like & whereon line there's problem
[02:22] <angelus> its stable enough on my end foo
[02:22] <bazhang> F1R3WaLL, please stop with the nick changes
[02:22] <foo> angelus: thakns
[02:22] <foo> thanks
[02:22] <usser_> SeLEcto, so install something like xdm so x is started automatically
[02:23] <usser_> SeLEcto, but in general i dont see the point of running X on a server
[02:23] <AnonYmous2> nakake: dude! medi-frikkin-buntu! add it to ur repository & update
[02:23] <F1R3WaLL> bazhang ok
[02:23] <nakake> AnonYmous2: howwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[02:23] <SeLEcto> usser_ neither do i, but this guy needs the grafical inteface, not my server m8.
[02:23] <bazhang> nakake, perhaps the w32codecs from medibuntu.org
[02:23] <AnonYmous2> www
[02:23] <SeLEcto> usser_ how can i start xdm m8?
[02:23] <AnonYmous2> medibuntu
[02:23] <AnonYmous2> .org
[02:23] <nakake> then what
[02:23] <FloodBot2> AnonYmous2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:23] <kian> For setting google talk, I tried this tutorial - http://helpforlinux.blogspot.com/2009/06/there-is-no-official-google-talk.html
[02:23] <AnonYmous2> or google:medibuntu
[02:23] <usser_> SeLEcto, alright so xdm is started automatically
[02:23] <bazhang> nakake, go to the website, no need for the dramatics
[02:23] <usser_> SeLEcto, sudo apt-get install xdm, its a login manager
[02:24] <nakake> then what
[02:24] <angelus> nakake http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources
[02:24] <usser_> SeLEcto, cause i doubt your friend will want an autologged in x server running just like that
[02:24] <angelus> there you go medibuntu how-to-add tutorial
[02:24] <kian> is there something wrong with that?
[02:24] <SeLEcto> usser_ but as far as i know, he is using gnome?
[02:24] <usser_> SeLEcto, oh, it has a full blown gnome installed?
[02:24] <AnonYmous2> nakake: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[02:24] <SeLEcto> usser_ yes
[02:25] <Wazzap> всем привет, подскажите как в хчате сделать чтоб двойным кликом по списку ников, ник добавлялся в строку печати?
[02:25] <usser_> SeLEcto, then he should have gdm, and the problem is bigger than just x not starting
[02:25] <bazhang> !ru | Wazzap
[02:25] <Wazzap> thanks
[02:25] <SeLEcto> usser_ tell me about it, i've been working with this shit for 4 hours.
[02:25] <angelus> kian try using Jabber instead of google talk see if that works
[02:25] <usser_> SeLEcto, is there a monitor connected?
[02:25] <bazhang> SeLEcto, please keep it family friendly
[02:25] <usser_> SeLEcto, or is it a headless machine?
[02:25] <AnonYmous2> nakake: if you go to www.medibuntu.org, click on "repository howto", it's all explained plain & simple
[02:25] <SeLEcto> usser_ i can use no monitor m8. I only have ssh access.
[02:26] <nakake> i dont know the name of the codec that i need to dl
[02:26] <bazhang> nakake, go to the website www.medibuntu.org
[02:26] <kian> angelus, still network error
[02:26] <SeLEcto> usser_ this is a dedi server he got from some company, and apperantly he was smart enough to buy it from a reseller, who dousnt care much.
[02:26] <usser_> SeLEcto, no but does he have a monitor connected to the server at his apartment? cause with all that resolution autodetection x fails to start if it doesnt have any outputs to display to
[02:26] <AnonYmous2> nakake: it doen't matter; once you've added the medibuntu repository, it's loaded as needed
[02:26] <nakake> idid that
[02:26] <nakake> then what
[02:26] <nakake> update?
[02:26] <bazhang> nakake, then select the w32codecs deb file to download.
[02:26] <nakake> wtf from where
[02:27] <SeLEcto> usser_ read above m8
[02:27] <nakake> how do i do that from cli
[02:27] <kian> angelus, server is talk.google.com and i tried old ssl checked and unchecked
[02:27] <usser_> SeLEcto, i see
[02:27] <bazhang> nakake, then double click it, or open with gdebi
[02:27] <nakake> wher eis it
[02:27] <nakake> i dont see it
[02:27] <SeLEcto> usser_ apperently this setup worked fine, untill a few days ago.  Please do so and stop repeating.
[02:28] <SeLEcto> usser_ any idéas?
[02:29] <nakake> bazhang: you dont know how to explain anything, thanks for teaching me how to double click though, because that was obviously the main issue here
[02:29] <AnonYmous2> nakake: the problem is not the OS, but the dodgy codecs your media's encoded in
[02:29] <usser_> SeLEcto, im afraid not sorry. never had X go defunct
[02:29] <squircle> hey everybody, i'm having a problem with my dovecot-postfix install. it complains about not being able to access the mysql database because its access was denied (access denied for 'postfix'@'localhost' using password: YES), but postfix can access the database perfectly fine. why wouldn't dovecot be able to?
[02:29] <nakake> AnonYmous2: oh yea, mp3 codecs are real dodgy
[02:29] <usser_> SeLEcto, what version you're running maybe try to update
[02:29] <bazhang> nakake, no need for the attitude. we are volunteers here.
[02:29] <usser_> SeLEcto, switch the graphics driver to vga
[02:29] <SeLEcto> usser_ i tried and update/upgrade
[02:29] <insomniackoala> try mint linux nakake
[02:29] <S0LIDUS> nakake, You should be using Flac!
[02:30] <SeLEcto> usser_ how could i do that m8?
[02:30] <insomniackoala> comes with flash n codecs outta box
[02:30] <nakake> bazhang: you're like the volunteers at the old folks home, giving the same robotic and depressing smalltalk
[02:30] <git__> nakake should try windows
[02:30] <manifest3r>  #ppcwarez
[02:30] <nakake> git__: you should try exherbo
[02:30] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[02:31] <AnonYmous2> nakake: dude! please pay attention! people are taking time to help you out. go to www.medibuntu.org, click on the howto-link & add & update your repository. it's 3 click & a copy & paste. if you're not willing to do something so simple, then give me root ssh admin to you box & we'll fix it FOR you
[02:31] <nakake> i dont know what pkg the codec is
[02:31] <kian> AnonYmous2,  have any tips on getting gtalk to work with empathy or pidgin
[02:31] <trism> nakake: to play mp3 all you need to do is install ubuntu-restricted-extras, it will give you all the restricted codecs, plus flash and a few other things
[02:31] <reploved> teste
[02:31] <bdfoster_iPhone> nakake: the reason why it isn't included is due to legal issues. a simple google search will tell you all the ways you can get mp3's to play on ubuntu
[02:31] <nakake> AnonYmous2: i already told you five times that i did that and i keep asking "what's next" or rephrase it to "then whta?"  I'm sure that tactic works.
[02:32] <nakake> yes its the codec thats missing
[02:32] <git__> nakake, u have to go through step by step to isolate ur problem
[02:32] <_ope_> hey guys since i installed ubuntu 9.10 i did an update now compiz doesnt work
[02:32] <git__> nakake, next play .ogg file ... does it work using movie player?
[02:32] <nakake> SeLEcto: you're useless and incompetent, quit wasting your time with me if you think you're so smart
[02:32] <_ope_> running in low graphics mode
[02:32] <AnonYmous2> nakake: http://pastebin.com/d417b0628
[02:33] <SeLEcto> nakake Never said i was smart, but i'm atleast not rude
[02:33] <SeLEcto> usser_ How do i switch it to vga m8 ?
[02:33] <exeon_will> what is a good html editor for linux
[02:33] <SeLEcto> I never use X myself
[02:33] <AnonYmous2> sweet...
[02:33] <usser_> SeLEcto, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and put vga as the driver in there
[02:34] <bdfoster_iPhone> yea lol
[02:34] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I configure the gdm greeter so users must type both their username and password (and ideally the password dots wouldn't appear either)?
[02:34] <Mike_lifeguard> There seems to be no configuration tool in Karmic
[02:34] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[02:34] <alepot> Godd morning. I have a very strange display issue with kubuntu  9.10 on a Compaq nc4010 laptop. All of the display is fine, except for the panel and the titlebars of windows,
[02:34] <maco> Mike_lifeguard: gnome rewrote gdm and the configuration code hasnt been rewritten yet, so umm.... oh well
[02:35] <maco> Mike_lifeguard: you can try kdm instead of gdm
[02:35] <Mike_lifeguard> maco: And ubuntu shipped the code with regressions?
[02:35] <maco> Mike_lifeguard: we always ship the latest gnome
[02:35] <angelus> Mike_lifeguard http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-remove-hide-users-list-at-login-screen-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
[02:36] <SeLEcto> usser_ it's kbd atm, what is that?
[02:36] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[02:36] <maco> Mike_lifeguard: its not exactly regressions (thatd be more like old code that broke) so much as a new program that doesnt have feature-parity with the old program
[02:36] <SeLEcto> usser_ there are 2 drivers? kbd and vmmouse
[02:37] <AnonYmous2> anyone here familiar with multiseat-x?
[02:37] <exeon_will> what is a good html editor for linux
[02:37] <ezzieyguywuf> exeon_will: gedit?
[02:37] <Mike_lifeguard> angelus: thanks, do you know if the password dots can be hidden too?
[02:37] <AnonYmous2> exeon_will: scite or bluefish
[02:38] <Mike_lifeguard> maco: I could also ask why gnome is shipping it
[02:39] <maco> Mike_lifeguard: possibly because "given many eyes all bugs are shallow"
[02:39] <CkhiKuzad> is there any way to block DCC's
[02:39] <CkhiKuzad> ?
[02:39] <maco> Mike_lifeguard: "release early, release often"
[02:39] <Mike_lifeguard> CkhiKuzad: Yes, it depends on your client
[02:39] <a_s_1> I am getting spam from that vareTrimi character. What to do?
[02:39] <maco> a_s_1: report in #freenode
[02:39] <CkhiKuzad> a_s_1 same here
[02:39] <Mike_lifeguard> CkhiKuzad: or set umode +C
[02:39] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[02:39] <feedgefaniake> ARRAY(0xa106ae8)
[02:39] <SeLEcto> usser_ you went for a nap m8? :)
[02:40] <Mike_lifeguard> a_s_1: you too (umode +C)
[02:40] <Numpdreamma> ARRAY(0xa1085d8)
[02:40] <a_s_1> thanks all
[02:40] <apocalypt> i guess we are all got this DCC's
[02:40] <maco> a_s_1: at least, since i dont *think* ubuntu ops can remove someone from server.... i think itd be #freenode
[02:40] <AnonYmous2> 5t=-o0-anyone here familiar with multiseat-x?
[02:40] <breinera> souler: did you have a hidden applet
[02:40] <Mike_lifeguard> The FloodBots should probably give that advice after attempted DCC exploits, btw
[02:42] <souler> How can I install .emerald themes on ubuntu?
[02:42] <SeLEcto> usser_ Well thank you for all your help, i'll backup his files and tell him to tell them to reinstall it.
[02:42] <AnonYmous2> anyone here familiar with multiseat-x?
[02:42] <scalaLove>  shortcut for undo in termina?
[02:42] <kian> anyone have some ideas on getting google talk to work I tried these tutorials http://pastebin.com/f14190261
[02:42] <bazhang> souler, emerald is no longer supported or developed
[02:42] <breinera> souler: do you have emerald installed?
[02:42] <Mike_lifeguard> scalaLove: I don't think there is one. I wish there was :)
[02:42] <AnonYmous2> kian: i can try & help. u having setup probs?
[02:42] <CkhiKuzad> engency is the person you need to gline
[02:42] <kian> AnonYmous2, yea
[02:42] <CkhiKuzad> just so you know
[02:43] <kian> AnonYmous2, I flushed iptables and it worked with gtalk in windows
[02:44] <AnonYmous2> kian: unfortunately my config is not avail @ this machine; sorry
[02:44] <kian> AnonYmous2, maybe if I could just get your working configuration
[02:44] <scalaLove> how stupid is that not having undo in terminal ?
[02:44] <kian> are you seeing my text?
[02:44] <CkhiKuzad> kian yes
[02:44] <AnonYmous2> kian: k. if you hang on, I'll try & get it for you
[02:45] <exeon_will> what is a good html editor for ubuntu
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[02:45] <bdfoster_iPhone_> ping
[02:45] <Fizix> pong
[02:45] <bdfoster_iPhone_> thanks
[02:45] <kian> the channel keeps saying cannot send to channel
[02:45] <oorah> whats the difference between installing by command line and installing by gui?
[02:45] <AnonYmous2> kian: gtalk config in empathy?
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[02:45] <kian> AnonYmous2, yea
[02:45] <exeon_will> what is a good html editor for ubuntu
[02:46] <kian> AnonYmous2, either is fine i installed both pidgin and empathy
[02:46] <insomniackoala> its totally same oorah, terminal is much more practical if you af me
[02:46] <insomniackoala> *ask me
[02:46] <AnonYmous2> kian: pidgin is straight-forward
[02:46] <Winson> quanta plus
[02:46] <GerbilSoft> does freenode not have a "disable channel CTCP" channel mode?
[02:46] <alepot> Good morning. the titlebars of all my windows, and the panel at the bottom of the screen,  are blank. I have a fresh, updated 9.10 install on an old compaq nc4010. It worked fine in 9.04. Can anyone help?
[02:46] <kian> AnonYmous2, I'll try that
[02:46] <alepot> Screendump at http://ap-consulting.co.uk/~alexp/screendump.png
[02:47] <oorah> insomniackoala, i installed updates with the terminal this morning, then a few opened pidgin so it would connect, then found out after opening the gui updater the command line update/upgrade didn't include the updates for pidgin, made me wonder if i should do both from now on or what
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[02:48] <squircle> i wonder if i'll still get 404 errors when trying to PRIVMSG #ubuntu...
[02:48] <squircle> oh, that's nice.
[02:48] <AnonYmous2> kian: for empathy: login id<EMAIL_ADDRESS>,  pwd: whatever , enable tsl/ssl, not ignore, rsource:gtalk, priority: 0 server: talk.google.com , port: 5222
[02:48] <insomniackoala> its same oorah, consequences are same too
[02:49] <AnonYmous2> kian: for pidgin you just enter the values as needed
[02:49] <gdiz> hey everyone I am looking to set up playing music on my ubuntu box using another computer via wifi.  I thought mpd might be a good solution.  So I was wondering if any of you have any opinions of mpd and if you know of a good web server front ends so that I could play my music via the ubuntu box and via the other computer.
[02:49] <oorah> insomniackoala, but how come the command line didn't update from the pidgin repositories, i had to open the gui to get that updated
[02:49] <kian> AnonYmous2, still doesn't work... hmm?
[02:49] <AnonYmous2> gdiz: a few: VLC, rhythmbox, slimserver, xbmc, & a few others
[02:50] <insomniackoala> what do you mean with pidgin repositories oorah? theres no dedicated repositories for millions of apps
[02:50] <AnonYmous2> kian: you'll have to give a bit more info than that
[02:50] <kian> AnonYmous2, network error still ,
[02:50] <AnonYmous2> kian: yeah?.....
[02:50] <gdiz> anonymous2, rhythmbox can be a front end to mpd?
[02:50] <binMonkey> i've seen the command 'add-apt-repository ppa:reponame' online twice yesterday and i can't get it to work.  how do i use this?
[02:51] <kian> AnonYmous2, can you get more output?
[02:51] <AnonYmous2> gdiz: mpd?
[02:51] <Winson> what is mpd?
[02:51] <AnonYmous2> kian: what setting u got in which app?
[02:51] <gdiz> anonymous2, I have been doing some research on music player daemon
[02:51] <oorah> insomniackoala, i'm using jaunty, i had to add a key ring. then i updated/upgraded with command line, opened pidgin, it didn't connect. then i opened up the gui updater, found the updates for pidgin, updated, then it connected just fine. thats why i wonder if i need to do both from now on to keep from missing updates
[02:51] <AnonYmous2> ah
[02:52] <fbdystang> HI all!! I am having issues with wine. I raised the dpi to max in wine config. I now have huge text and can't scroll down to change back. Any ideas? is there a config file I can delete?
[02:52] <angelus> Mike_lifeguard i know that there is a way to disable the pwd if you can access the old Log-iin Options menu, and i know you can do taht in Karmic, google just doesnt want to give me the answer
[02:52] <kian> AnonYmous2, ohh sorry, Empathy<EMAIL_ADDRESS>pwd, enabled, encryption, NO ignore, Res gtalk, priority 0, server talk.google.com, port 5222
[02:52] <AnonYmous2> gdiz: not familiar myself w mpd; i use other apps
[02:52] <gdiz> oh ok
[02:53] <AnonYmous2> kian: sounds right
[02:53] <Mike_lifeguard> angelus: Is there a way to see what the options are for simple-greeter from gconftool2 or something?
[02:53] <gdiz> anonymous2, ok, so how do you go about controlling an ubuntu box via another computer?
[02:53] <AnonYmous2> kian: u able 2 connect w pidgin OK?
[02:53] <breinera> binMonkey: you need to know the name of the repo, I follow the development of the vala programming language so I issued the command add-apt-repository ppa:vala-team
[02:53] <gdf1g3df> gdiz: lol
[02:53] <Mike_lifeguard> gdiz: Install sshd on the server and set up publickey auth?
[02:53] <kian> AnonYmous2, does essentially the same thing
[02:53] <AnonYmous2> gdiz: VLC & rhythmbox have web interfaces & client apps for control
[02:54] <AnonYmous2> kian. then you may have a different problem
[02:54] <kian> AnonYmous2, I imagine it doesn't need any port forwarding?
[02:54] <binMonkey> breinera: both articles i read gave the repo name.  i just couldn't get the command to work and i can't find a man page for it.
[02:54] <kian> AnonYmous2, I flushed iptables so no firewall
[02:54] <AnonYmous2> kian: no. ur initiating a connection out
[02:55] <angelus> i have no idea Mike_lifeguard
[02:55] <Mike_lifeguard> angelus: ok, thanks for your help!
[02:55] <AnonYmous2> kian: are you able to telnet to talk.google.com on port 5222?
[02:55] <kian> AnonYmous2, maybe capture via wireshark and anaylze the packeds?
[02:55] <breinera> binMonkey: just to ask to cover all the bases, you tried "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:reponame", the sudo is very important
[02:55] <gdiz> Mike_lifeguard, sorry bad phrasing: controlling in reference to controlling music
[02:55] <angelus> Mike_lifeguard np but i think i might have an answer hold on a sec
[02:55] <fbdystang> Any wine users out there?
[02:56] <AnonYmous2> kian: too much work, sry
[02:56] <binMonkey> breinera: yes.  my command line just sat there.
[02:56] <AnonYmous2> fbdystang: not really
[02:56] <Mike_lifeguard> gdiz: Sure, you can ssh in and use some music server
[02:56] <kian> AnonYmous2, I didn't want you to do it
[02:56] <gdiz> anonymous2, oh ok, I have been having trouble finding a good web interface for rhythmbox, what have you used.  I think the problem is that whatever I have used has to index 130 GB of music
[02:56] <kian> AnonYmous2, that would be too much to ask
[02:57] <alepot> Good morning. the titlebars of all my windows, and the panel at the bottom of the screen,  are blank. I have a fresh, updated 9.10 install on an old compaq nc4010. It worked fine in 9.04. Can anyone help?
[02:57] <breinera> binMonkey: just checking if you don't mind me asking what reponames were you trying?  I will try them myself and to see if they work
[02:57] <alepot> Screendump at http://ap-consulting.co.uk/~alexp/screendump.png
[02:57] <al_> if I want a job to only run between 9pm and say 5am - I know I can start it with crontab, but how would I stop it at 5am for resuming again that night?
[02:57] <AnonYmous2> gdiz: new rthythmbox has a http server plugin
[02:57] <gdiz> Mike_lifeguard, the problem that I have been having is that I have been having trouble accessing via shell.  Maybe it's the program, but I have no idea how to control rhythmbox via shell.
[02:57] <binMonkey> breinera: one was 'jonobacon'.  i'll have to find the other one in my bookmarks.  thanks!
[02:58] <kian> AnonYmous2,  it refused my telnet??
[02:58] <gdiz> anonymous2, how late is the newest release?
[02:59] <Mike_lifeguard> gdiz: ew, don't use rhythmbox, use mpd
[02:59] <AnonYmous2> kian: then you have skianome lower-level networking issue; it's not the app
[02:59] <Mike_lifeguard> gdiz: and ncpmc
[02:59] <AnonYmous2> anyone here familiar with multiseat-x?
[02:59] <kian> AnonYmous2, hmm yea I'll take a look at the driver
[03:00] <kian> AnonYmous2, thanks for the help though
[03:00] <AnonYmous2> kian: payme a firewall doin packet-shaping or blocking certain ports?
[03:00] <AnonYmous2> kian: no worries, dude. at least you're a step closer now
[03:01] <breinera> binMonkey: I just issued the command "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jonobacon/ppa" and it then asked for my password and added the source, did you have /ppa on the end
[03:01] <kian> AnonYmous2, hmmm
[03:01] <binMonkey> breinera: noooooooo.   the articles didn't list that bit!
[03:01] <kian> AnonYmous2, I just thought of something
[03:01] <breinera> binMonkey: hope that helps
[03:02] <AnonYmous2> kian: yea?
[03:02] <breinera> binMonkey: they always leave out the fine print
[03:02] <gdiz> Mike_lifeguard, oh ok, so I am very new to this: is ncpmc a form of mpd or something that goes on top of mpd
[03:02] <kian> AnonYmous2,  your gonna kill me, I forgot i had moblock running
[03:03] <AnonYmous2> kian: hehehehe. it's the little things that trip us up, eh....?
[03:03] <binMonkey> breinera: shit.  now it's telling me 'command not found' and i it's not in the repos i have enabled.
[03:03] <kian> AnonYmous2, hope that fixes it
[03:03] <AnonYmous2> kian: good luck
[03:03] <Mike_lifeguard> gdiz: mpd is the music server (database of your music etc); ncpmc is the music client (what you as the user interact with - choosing what to play etc)
[03:04] <apocalypt> AnonYmous2 multiseat-x problems under gdm 2.28?
[03:04] <Mike_lifeguard> gdiz: There are other options, but that's what I'd recommend. Note that ubuntu's default setup for mpd is *not good*, so you will have to tweak it
[03:04] <AnonYmous2> hi apocalypt: thanks for the response
[03:04] <AnonYmous2> apocalypt: i downgraded my gdm to 2.20
[03:04] <aaron__> Hi
[03:05] <gdiz> Mike_lifeguard, what isn't so hot about it?
[03:05] <squircle> !hi | aaron__
[03:05] <apocalypt> ok that would be my question. sorry thats all what i know about multiseat-x
[03:05] <aaron__> does anyone know how to take apart a HTC black tone smart cell phone?
[03:05] <squircle> !ot | aaron__
[03:05] <aaron__> like this: http://vimeo.com/6892707
[03:05] <Guest18913> Hey guys (and girls), I have an old Dell Inspiron 600m that can't see a DVD-R when I put it in the drive?
[03:06] <AnonYmous2> apocalypt: basic setup. my `lspci | grep VGA` only returns a single video device, even though my ATI radeon HD 3450 PGU have multiple outs: DVI, VGA & HDMI
[03:06] <aaron__> I am stuck at taking the Antenna
[03:06] <breinera> binMonkey: if you want you can do it the graphical way, go to System and then "Software Sources", click on the tab "Other software", click the "add" button, for the apt line just put "ppa:jonobacon/ppa" and it will add that repo
[03:06] <Guest5030> Hi, anyone know of a channel where you talk about ubuntu and linux but in Spanish
[03:06] <bazhang> aaron__, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[03:06] <Mike_lifeguard> gdiz: It assumes you want it to be system-wide, which you probably don't. So, for example, it starts mpd on start-up, but pointing at a location that has no music in it (ie the systemwide location) -- whereas you want it to not start at boot time so you can start it when you need it and it will use ~/.mpd/mpd.conf which you will configure correctly to point at your music library
[03:06] <AnonYmous2> Guest18913: `dmesg`
[03:06] <wgrant> !es | Guest5030
[03:07] <Blue1> anyone familiar with dd-wrt?
[03:07] <campee> is there anything in ubuntu that can match the functionality that fedora 11/12 offer to encrypt your entire hard drive and be prompted for a password at boot time to decrypt it?
[03:07] <angelus> Mike_lifeguard i couldnt help you but, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8447859 i opened up a help topic there, hopefully we'll find our answers there
[03:07] <AnonYmous2> apocalypt: u got multiseat working?
[03:07] <wgrant> Blue1: That's not on-topc here.
[03:07] <Mike_lifeguard> angelus: OK, cool
[03:07] <binMonkey> breinera: is it only available for karmic?  i thought about editing source.list, but i wanted to try a new tool.
[03:07] <AnonYmous2> Blue1: yea
[03:07] <Blue1> wgrant: where can I take that to please?
[03:07] <MrKeuner> hello, I'd like to buy a laptop which will work without any major problems, including problem free suspend and all. i am aware that companies are not eager to work with GNU/Linux on that. So, I was wondering if Ubuntu community has a site where they promote problem free hardware.
[03:07] <wgrant> campee: The alternate CD offers full-disk encryption, while the desktop CD allows encryption of your home directory.
[03:07] <apocalypt> no i just saw u have to downgrade GDM that all what i know about multiseat-x. i'm sorry
[03:07] <Guest5030> Ok thanks
[03:08] <AnonYmous2> apocalypt: thnx
[03:08] <campee> wgrant: thank you. i google'd for it and that didn't come up. odd.
[03:08] <squircle> !hcl | MrKeuner
[03:08] <Jesi> Any Input for this Linux Cheat Sheet? http://dracojesi.com/Forum/showthread.php?tid=10
[03:08] <squircle> MrKeuner: also see http://system76.com
[03:08] <Guest18913> Hey guys (and girls), I have an old Dell Inspiron 600m that can't see a DVD-R when I put it in the drive?
[03:08] <bazhang> Blue1, #dd-wrt
[03:08] <Mike_lifeguard> MrKeuner: I think on the "download ubuntu" page there is a link to the hardware compatibility list ... or just use the link that guy gave you :P
[03:08] <squircle> !patience | Guest18913
[03:08] <AnonYmous2> anyone else here familiar with multiseat-x?
[03:08] <AnonYmous2> please
[03:08] <AnonYmous2> pretty please
[03:08] <Guest5030> #ubuntu-es
[03:08] <aaron__> I am having trouble in upgrading to ubuntu 9.10 the update manager fails to install some packages for the upgrade. what should I do?
[03:08] <breinera> binMonkey: so "add-apt-repository" is only available for karmic or ppa:jonobacon/ppa is only available for karmic?
[03:08] <apocalypt> AnonYmous2 did u try this :https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[03:08] <Mike_lifeguard> MrKeuner: I highly recommend buying hardware from Zareason or System76 though!
[03:09] <AnonYmous2> apocalypt: been there, done that
[03:09] <squircle> MrKeuner: totally agree with Mike_lifeguard
[03:09] <bazhang> aaron__, please paste.ubuntu.com with the errors (dont paste here)
[03:09] <apocalypt> ok that was my last idea because i've never used multiseat-x
[03:09] <binMonkey> breinera: no.  i was asking if the command or the script 'add-apt-repository' was only available for karmic.  i can't find a way to install it on my jaunty.
[03:09] <campee> wgrant: is the alternate version the text-based installer?
[03:09] <squircle> campee: yes
[03:09] <wgrant> campee: Yes.
[03:10] <campee> thanks
[03:10] <Mike_lifeguard> MrKeuner: Finally, please consider *not* supporting nVidia by buying their graphics hardware. Intel is very supportive, supplying both specs and dev time; ATI supplies at least some specs (not sure exactly what the current status is). nVidia refuses point-blank to be helpful AFAIK. Intel is good hardware, and they are nice to us :)
[03:10] <TheCash> how do I uninstall a program installed from  a .deb file
[03:10] <Mike_lifeguard> TheCash: dpkg -r, I think
[03:10] <gdiz> mike_lifeguard, ok so just go through and mess with the conf then and I'll be set...ok.
[03:10] <gdiz> thanks
[03:11] <breinera> binMonkey: add-apt-repository must be karmic only, my jaunty box doesn't have the command, you learn something every day, usually I just edit the file by hand
[03:11] <MrKeuner> Mike_lifeguard, I'll get an intel video this time that's for sure
[03:11] <Mike_lifeguard> gdiz: yeah, it takes a bit of getting used to, but it definitely works (and incredibly stable!)
[03:11] <kfizz1> Does anyone know of a GUI grub bootloader editor? I have two hd and the mbr is on the older one and I need to format it, so I need to get the mbr on the newer one
[03:12] <Mike_lifeguard> MrKeuner: It's great now that we're over the hump of moving to the new software acceleration, should be much smoother sailing that during Jaunty :D
[03:12] <TheCash> Mike_lifeguard: do I put the filename(without the.deb?
[03:12] <Mike_lifeguard> TheCash: not 100% sure, read 'man dpkg'
[03:12] <MrKeuner> Mike_lifeguard, do you know by any chance if coreboot comes with the laptops from system76 or zareason?
[03:12] <TheCash> ok
[03:12] <maco> MrKeuner: the thing on the motherboard?
[03:13] <squircle> TheCash: for instance, if you installed firstclass-x.y.z.deb, just type sudo dpkg -r firstclass
[03:13] <Mike_lifeguard> MrKeuner: I don't know offhand. The latest info I know is it really isn't ready for use unless you *need* to use a non-proprietary BIOS :(
[03:13] <MrKeuner> squircle , I am asking you too ^
[03:13] <maco> MrKeuner: neither makes their own boards, so i doubt it
[03:13] <Mike_lifeguard> MrKeuner: I doubt they use it, thinking about it more
[03:13] <TheCash> ok thanks
[03:13] <squircle> MrKeuner: no clue at all.
[03:13] <MrKeuner> maco, yes, the free bios
[03:13] <con-man> is there a fix for the adobe flash - GTK 2.18 issue yet?  my mouse still wont work
[03:13] <gdiz> Mike_lifeguard, great
[03:14] <TheCash> squircle: thanks  that worked
[03:14] <squircle> TheCash: glad to help :)
[03:14] <Mike_lifeguard> TheCash: man page isn't very clear, but it'll simply give you an error if you use the wrong one. won't do any harm if you guess wrong and you have 50% chance of being right
[03:14] <maco> MrKeuner: my zareason has a phoenix bios
[03:15] <MrKeuner> maco, any problem with suspend?
[03:15] <maco> con-man: the compiz issue with flash?
[03:15] <maco> MrKeuner: when i got it sound didnt work on resume....then i wrote a patch....
[03:15] <maco> MrKeuner: that was a year and a half ago
[03:15] <maco> MrKeuner: i can tell you that on the alto systems the touchpad doesnt do scrolling, but on the rest it does
[03:16] <kfizz1> Does anyone know of a GUI grub bootloader editor? I have two hd and the mbr is on the older one and I need to format it, so I need to get the mbr on the newer one
[03:17] <Mike_lifeguard> maco: do you have any info on phoenix? I've never heard of it & can't find any mention on zareason's website
[03:18] <maco> Mike_lifeguard: its one of the two companies tht make pretty much *all* BIOSes
[03:18] <X-Sleepy-X> hi ravi
[03:18] <wgrant> Mike_lifeguard: PhoenixBIOS has been around for a veeery long time.
[03:18] <Mike_lifeguard> maco: ah, k
[03:18] <ravi> X-Sleepy-X: hi
[03:18] <Mike_lifeguard> Sorry, I thought you implied it was an open source BIOS
[03:18] <MrKeuner> phoenix was very popular 5-8 years ago
[03:18] <maco> Mike_lifeguard: no no
[03:18] <MrKeuner> may be more popular than award
[03:19] <Guest64208> hello. i am trying to start the computer in recovery mode, but i cant access the grub menu at boot. ]
[03:19] <mgolisch> there is no such thing
[03:19] <maco> Mike_lifeguard: like i said, they dont make teh boards....  theyre just system builders. so they take existing hardware, plug the pieces together, and install ubuntu
[03:19] <maco> mgolisch: what?
[03:19] <mgolisch> as opensource BIOS
[03:19] <maco> mgolisch: sure there is. LinuxBIOS for one
[03:20] <mgolisch> but its not BIOS is it?
[03:20] <maco> mgolisch: yes it is
[03:20] <Guest64208> hello. i am trying to start the computer in recovery mode, but i cant access the grub menu at boot. how do i do so?
[03:20] <maco> mgolisch: you can replace your motherboard's bios with the linux bios and then use it to boot your linux OS :D
[03:20] <b3rz3rk3r> why would they call it a bios if it wasnt?
[03:20] <mgolisch> but still its no BIOS
[03:20] <AnonYmous2> maco: huh?
[03:20] <CkhiKuzad> maco
[03:20] <CkhiKuzad> i think your thinking of the bootloader
[03:21] <maco> CkhiKuzad: no im not
[03:21] <CkhiKuzad> GRUB is the bootloader, it doesnt change the bios afaik
[03:21] <MrKeuner> mgolisch, what do you mean by BIOS
[03:21] <apocalypt> kfizz1
[03:21] <ravi> can some tell me the step to install ubuntu 9.10 along with windows 7 on my new hp laptop
[03:21] <maco> CkhiKuzad: no duh
[03:21] <con-man> maco there is an issue with GTK 2.18 and flash where the mouse pointer doesn't work.
[03:21] <con-man> you cant click
[03:21] <kfizz1> Yes apocalypt?
[03:21] <mgolisch> bios is the boot firmware for ibm compatible pcs made by ibm
[03:21] <maco> mgolisch: apparently LinuxBIOS was renamed to CoreBoot, but it IS a bios for motherboards
[03:21] <b3rz3rk3r> !dualboot | ravi
[03:21] <apocalypt> try that: http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/how-to-copy-master-boot-record-mbr-between-hard-disks/
[03:21] <mgolisch> they license it to some companies for money
[03:21] <chrismnh> hey can i get a hand with getting a logitech 9000 webcam working with either skype or msn via kopete?
[03:21] <maco> yes, a bios that's opensource
[03:21] <apocalypt> maybe it helps
[03:21] <maco> mgolisch: bios does NOT refer to a specific implementation
[03:21] <kfizz1> Thanks apocalypt, I'll look into that
[03:22] <ravi> thanks everyone i will go through this links
[03:22] <maco> mgolisch: it is *any* firmware for the motherboard. it just means "basic input/output system" and 2 companies (phoenix and award) have a shared monopoly on the market, but CoreBoot exists as an alternative
[03:22] <maco> CkhiKuzad: linuxbios/coreboot would call grub which would then do the actual booting
[03:22] <MrKeuner> mgolisch, then why do you say coreboot is not a bios? because IBM has to license them, and has not?
[03:23] <CkhiKuzad> maco i googled it
[03:23] <CkhiKuzad> it turns out it's real
[03:23] <mgolisch> yeah
[03:23] <mgolisch> :)
[03:23] <Mike_lifeguard> ravi: If you need help understanding what's there, or actually doing it as you install, make sure you come back and ask.
[03:23] <CkhiKuzad> but i dont think im going to use it
[03:23] <CkhiKuzad> evar
[03:23] <Mike_lifeguard> CkhiKuzad: it is pretty scary :D
[03:23] <MrKeuner> mgolisch, i am sure patent duration has exceeded for basic input output system
[03:24] <CkhiKuzad> mike_lifeguard its even scarier when your bios update fries your ethernet card
[03:24] <CkhiKuzad> and then you are stuck with usb modem only
[03:24] <mgolisch> no idea, it sucks anyways
[03:24] <mgolisch> still wonder why computer manufacturers use it nowadays
[03:24] <AnonYmous2> anyone here familiar with multiseat-x?
[03:25] <MrKeuner> mgolisch, because every part is produced by somebody else, so it is very hard to change standards
[03:25] <MrKeuner> this is what i think
[03:25] <mgolisch> its like 20years old shit
[03:25] <maco> !languager | mgolisch
[03:25] <mgolisch> -r
[03:25] <mgolisch> :)
[03:25] <maco> !language | mgolisch
[03:25] <maco> yeah that
[03:25]  * Mike_lifeguard wifflebats maco: "Get a grip"
[03:26] <maco> Mike_lifeguard: no thank you. swearing is not permitted here.
[03:26] <el_compA_> Hello I need help with my wireless Internet connection
[03:26] <mgolisch> hm i just wonder why they dont move on to something more current
[03:26] <mgolisch> like efi for example
[03:27] <mgolisch> but i guess its because windows doesnt support it
[03:27] <AnonYmous2> mgolisch:efi is implemented in grub2; splashtop is something akin to efi
[03:27] <breinera> el_compA: what issues are you having
[03:27] <AnonYmous2> mac uses efi
[03:27] <el_compA_> I am using the 9.10 livecd and it detects my networks but it won't connect (with the coreect password)... Im using a wireless USB adapter
[03:27] <jay> hi
[03:27] <el_compA_> And im pretty sure it's working since it detects my networks
[03:27] <mgolisch> yeah but macs run macosx not windows
[03:27] <mgolisch> :)
[03:28] <maco> mgolisch: are you one of those people who thinks macs aren't pcs?
[03:28] <Guest74184> i have 8.04 ubuntu and i dont remember user i reset password how d i clear username or find it
[03:28] <AnonYmous2> w7 might change that a bit...
[03:28] <breinera> el_compA: if you can see your network and it asks for a password, then I don't know what could be the problem
[03:28] <mgolisch> maco: why? actualy many are not
[03:28] <maco> Guest11061: look at /etc/passwd
[03:28] <wingede> mgolisch: im on a mac, run windows 7 natively
[03:28] <mgolisch> pcs dont have ppc
[03:29] <XStatik> I just installed emerald theme manager and drug a theme into the manager but it didnt update the windows for some reason
[03:29] <MrKeuner> maco, does webcam really work?
[03:29] <wgrant> mgolisch: Neither do post-PPC Macs.
[03:29] <maco> mgolisch: anything apple ever called a Mac was a PC
[03:29] <MrKeuner> maco, on your zareason I mea
[03:29] <Guest74184> put that in command prompt?
[03:29] <MrKeuner> n
[03:29] <Mike_lifeguard> XStatik: installing and using are different
[03:29] <maco> MrKeuner: in lucid it will
[03:29] <maco> MrKeuner: theres a third party driver available on a bug report
[03:29] <mgolisch> wingede: how does that work? does w7 support efi?
[03:29] <Guest74184> maco
[03:29] <apocalypt> el_compA maybe the encryption is the issue . did u try different ways like wep,Wpa, Wpa2
[03:29] <maco> mgolisch: at least, im not aware of any Apple Macintosh Servers
[03:29] <mgolisch> wingede: or how would you run windows without bootcamp?
[03:30] <el_compA__> I am using wpa2
[03:30] <maco> mgolisch: they actually call the servers servers and the phones phones and the ipods ipods....
[03:30] <breinera> Guest74184: you can edit /etc/shadow if you are root
[03:30] <MrKeuner> maco, everything on the laptop will not work necessarily? that's is very frustrating
[03:30] <maco> MrKeuner: anything advertised will work
[03:30] <maco> MrKeuner: if its not listed in the features list, its not guaranteed to work
[03:30] <el_compA__> But I didn't try others because I hear that wpa2 is the safest
[03:30] <wingede> mgolisch: vista did efi with sp1 on x64
[03:31] <Mike_lifeguard> el_compA__: It has to match what the wireless router is using
[03:31] <apocalypt> WPA2 AES?
[03:31] <MrKeuner> maco, so on system76 web site all laptops feature a webcam builtin, so they should work huh?
[03:31] <el_compA__> Yes my wireless router is using wpa2
[03:31] <breinera> Guest74184: inside /etc/shadow you will see the username and then a ":" and then a long string which represents the password once it is encrypted delete the long string it should be between the : and :
[03:31] <wgrant> wingede, mgolisch: And the Windows IA64 port has always done EFI.
[03:31] <maco> MrKeuner: no idea. ive never bought from them
[03:31] <wgrant> wingede, mgolisch: But this is off-topic.
[03:32] <maco> MrKeuner: i just know za's policy is to only list in the specs list what actually functions
[03:32] <wingede> wgrant: indeed, but someone has become wiser :)
[03:32] <Guest74184> how do i access root
[03:32] <maco> Guest74184: sudo
[03:32] <Mike_lifeguard> !sudo | Guest74184
[03:32] <Guest74184> i have lappy in front of me
[03:32] <Guest74184> im there
[03:32] <apocalypt> el_compA which encryption? TKIP/AES or what
[03:32] <el_compA__> apocalypt:  i think it's Wpa2-psk
[03:32] <klown> I cannot get any mp3s to play in amarok, it shows all my music, the test wav from the config file plays, but it runs through a 4 minute mp3 in about 5 seconds, with no sound sent to the soundcard
[03:32] <perlsyntax> How do i run python-unit in ubuntu 9.10?
[03:33] <apocalypt> u have to choose the same like your router config has
[03:33] <el_compA__> apocalypt:  Im not sure could you l
[03:33] <rampage73> klown: you probably need to install the mp3 plugins or codecs
[03:33] <el_compA__> Tell me how o check
[03:34] <breinera> Guest74184: press Alt-F2 when it gives you a prompt type "gksudo gedit /etc/shadow" and then you can edit it
[03:34] <el_compA__> apocalypt: It use to work very easily with 9.04
[03:34] <apocalypt> just try all the different encryption available for WPA2 one of these should work
[03:34] <breinera> Guest74184: it will ask for you password
[03:34] <el_compA__> I just had to put my password and it connected
[03:34] <MrKeuner> maco, I see
[03:35] <apocalypt> did u get some error messages?
[03:35] <el_compA__> Um im nit sure where to change the enccryption
[03:35] <perlsyntax> Anyone know how to run python-unit?
[03:35] <maco> MrKeuner: i could see in the photos that it had a webcam but it wasnt listed in the specs list, so i figured that meant not supporte
[03:35] <el_compA__> Not in 9.04 .... I never had a problem with wireless in 9.04
[03:35] <katakbuta> hey guys how do we check for package version in apt-cache?
[03:36] <perlsyntax> ?
[03:37] <skiquel> whats with these wierd bot messages
[03:37] <AnonYmous2> anyone here familiar with multiseat-x?
[03:37] <kostkon> katakbuta, apt-cache policy package_name
[03:39] <MrKeuner> I am trying to use, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ but is there a way to see the best behaving models easily, is there a promotion mechanism for well behaving systems?
[03:39] <malathion> after installing ubuntu 9.10 amd64 on a new drive, booting from the drive leaves me with a blinking cursor. any ideas?
[03:39] <XStatik> Is anyone here familar with using emerald themer, i unpacked a theme into the themer window, and I dont see any options in the window to apply the theme thats loaded into the library
[03:40] <Guest9229> so i installed envyng but when i click on the menu shortcut nothing happens. why?
[03:42] <apocalypt> el_compA:
[03:43] <brandon`> if i install xfce, it doesnt do  or changeannything unless i select it from the login window right?
[03:43] <breinera> brandon: yes
[03:43] <apocalypt> el_compA: look for that . there u can choose the wireless security http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~dtomas/0-grafik/wlan/eduroam4.png
[03:43] <brandon`> and will my gnome apps work
[03:43] <brandon`> still
[03:43] <lucio> Hi friends
[03:43] <brandon`> i just installed xubuntu on a shitty old pc i got for fre
[03:43] <brandon`> and im in love with xfce
[03:44] <ravi> I checked the link to install the windows 7, but I can not follow these steps.
[03:44] <lucio> I need send mail with motion
[03:44] <breinera> brandon: should, when you select xfce if might ask if you want it to be the default
[03:44] <brandon`> ah ok
[03:44] <brandon`> also
[03:44] <ravi> I am having windows 7 in my laptop and I can not reinstall it
[03:44] <brandon`> my gf is logged in already on gnome
[03:44] <brandon`> it wont effect her at all will it
[03:44] <brandon`> like can we both use our own
[03:44] <maco> brandon`: each user can choose their own default session
[03:44] <AnonYmous2> ravi: good for you!
[03:44] <breinera> brandon: me and my wife do
[03:44] <Guest9229> so i installed envyng but when i click on the menu shortcut nothing happens. why?
[03:44] <brandon`> berinera - one of you uses gnome and the other xfce?
[03:45] <maco> brandon`:  not sure which itll try to put her in on her next login, but she can manually select gnome and re-set that as her default
[03:45] <mgolisch> Guest9229: no idea, maybe execute the command in a terminal?
[03:45] <rivoot> lol @ AnonYmous2
[03:45] <brandon`> ok cool maco
[03:45] <brandon`> also
[03:45] <Guest9229> it still doesnt di anything
[03:45] <brandon`> are there any side effects of me switching to xfce
[03:45] <brandon`> like will apps stop working or anything
[03:45] <AnonYmous2> Guest9229: from terminal, run : `sudo envyng -t`
[03:45] <maco> brandon`: there will be more applications available in the menus
[03:45] <ravi> I donot think it will work for me
[03:45] <brandon`> yea i noticed that kind of stuff, but i know some apps are for gnome
[03:45] <el_compA__> Sorry I got disconnected
[03:45] <brandon`> some are for kde
[03:45] <brandon`> etc
[03:45] <brandon`> i didnt know if that meant anything
[03:45] <apocalypt> el_compA: look for that . there u can choose the wireless security http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~dtomas/0-grafik/wlan/eduroam4.png
[03:45] <FloodBot3> brandon`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <breinera> brandon: I use several depending on my mood, wife only uses gnome and no problem
[03:45] <brandon`> sorry floodbot
[03:46] <maco> brandon`: nah you can use them all regardless which you're logged into
[03:46] <ravi> Please tell me some steps to install ubuntu on window 7 laptop
[03:46] <brandon`> well i mean what does it mean by a gnome specific app or kde
[03:46] <el_compA__> apocalypt: I believe you were gonna say something before I left
[03:46] <maco> brandon`: FloodBot is a bot ;)
[03:46] <brandon`> lol i know :)
[03:46] <maco> brandon`: the libraries it uses
[03:46] <rivoot> I think he knows that x
[03:46] <sniqqer> hey how do i get flash working in ubuntu64
[03:46] <rivoot> xD
[03:46] <brandon`> so if i install kde, xfce, and gnome
[03:46] <brandon`> i can use any app no problem
[03:46] <brandon`> no matter which one ima ctually using
[03:46] <lucio> gringo please stop
[03:46] <brandon`> ?
[03:46] <FloodBot3> brandon`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:46] <sniqqer> does anyone know?
[03:46] <brandon`> fuck you floodbot
[03:46] <maco> brandon`: aside from plain gtk, there's actual gnome libraries used by gnome apps just like aside from qt there are kde libs used by kde apps
[03:46] <sniqqer> !flash
[03:46] <maco> !language | brandon`
[03:47] <rivoot> sniqqer : try using the beta avalaible in adobe website
[03:47] <apocalypt> yeah thats what i post it again el_compA u should see that
[03:47] <sniqqer> rivoot: i cant find it
[03:47] <maco> brandon`: yes, you can use any app no problem
[03:47] <brandon`> so why arent they all installed by default if they are so small lol
[03:47] <AlphaWaves> hi
[03:47] <brandon`> thanks maco youve been really helpful
[03:47] <brandon`> which do you prefer
[03:47] <maco> brandon`: if you *do* find a problem, please report it as a bug
[03:47] <brandon`> of the 3
[03:47] <brandon`> gnome, kde, xfce
[03:47] <astechgeek> while trying to update through the update manager I get a unathentication error that lists all the packages as being unauthenticated even the linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:47] <breinera> brandon: gnome
[03:47] <brandon`> i want speed
[03:47] <brandon`> and xfce seems the fastest
[03:47] <AlphaWaves> im banned from ubuntu-fr...
[03:47] <maco> brandon`: i prefer kde. and the reason they arent all installed by default is that ubuntu already takes 698 of 700 mb of its disc space :P
[03:47] <brandon`> ahhh ok
[03:47] <brandon`> gotcha
[03:47] <FloodBot3> brandon`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:47] <sniqqer> thanks
[03:47] <monokrome> Hey is karmic the server?
[03:47] <sniqqer> rivoot: it needs to be 64bit
[03:48] <brandon`> ok one last question - whats the difference between xubuntu and ubuntu
[03:48] <monokrome> or is karmic a release of both server and desktop (just trying to figure out the name)
[03:48] <rivoot>  sniqqer 1 sec.
[03:48] <lucio> alguien ue hable en español, parle in español
[03:48] <brandon`> is it simply that xfce is installed
[03:48] <maco> brandon`: yes
[03:48] <brandon`> instead of gnoem
[03:48] <brandon`> ah ok cool
[03:48] <breinera> brandon: ubuntu - gnome : xubuntu - xfce
[03:48] <sniqqer> rivoot: when i try the only vers available to me i get error wrong architecture i386
[03:48] <rivoot> sniqqer I meant "alpha"...not beta x)
[03:48] <brandon`> yea i know breinera, i just wondered if there was more of a difference than that
[03:48] <rivoot> sniqqer http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html
[03:48] <breinera> brandon: nope
[03:48] <brandon`> im gonna try xfce
[03:48] <brandon`> thanks alot guys
[03:48] <brandon`> been real helpful
[03:48] <Dreamglider> i have a problem with CPU usage here, it is at 50% and im only running a movie, firefox and xchat!, the cpu is a intel core 2duo 2GHz and 2Gb 667HMz ram. and just by moving the mouse the cpu usages increases about 10-15%. im running ubuntu 8.10.
[03:48] <Shoe> How do I use VirtualBox OSE? Mainly to get Windows (Need to use iTunes)
[03:48] <rivoot> they work fine
[03:49] <AnonYmous2> anyone here familiar with multiseat-x?
[03:49] <lucio> holaaa..
[03:49] <sniqqer> rivoot: that sa tar
[03:49] <maco> Shoe: create a new vm, put your windows install disc inyour drive, and point the vm at your disc drive
[03:49] <monokrome> I am trying to use debootstrap to createa a 32Bit Ubuntu 9.10 Server
[03:49] <monokrome> Does anyone know the command to do this?
[03:49] <maco> Shoe: then start the vm and go through the windows installation process
[03:49] <sniqqer> rivoot: its a tar how am  i supposed to install it
[03:50] <rivoot> are you looking for a .deb?
[03:50] <sniqqer> yes
[03:50] <rivoot> gimme another second xD
[03:50] <sniqqer> :D
[03:50] <brandon`> ohh yea maco and breinera
[03:50] <Shoe> maco, I have the windows xp installation disc, but lost the 25 digit code. Does that matter?
[03:50] <astechgeek> while trying to update through the update manager I get a unathentication error that lists all the packages as being unauthenticated even the linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>. I tried gpg --refresh-keys us.archive.ubuntu.com with no change anyone got any ideas on how to fix this?
[03:50] <brandon`> can i use emerald still - or does that not matter which window manager thing i use
[03:50] <monokrome> rivoot: me?
[03:50] <el_compA> apocalypt: Ok and how do I get to that page?
[03:50] <breinera> brandon`: I use it on gnome, never tried it under xfce
[03:51] <brandon`> kk
[03:51] <maco> Shoe: *shrug* i dont know how windows installs work
[03:51] <rivoot> nope, monokrome ...I was talking to sniqqer
[03:51] <maco> brandon`: emerald is an unsupported and unmaintained window decorator for compiz
[03:51] <ravi> please help me
[03:51] <maco> brandon`: but yes, you can use compiz with xfce
[03:51] <i_is_broke> Shoe, you will need the code in vbox as well.
[03:51] <brandon`> kk thx
[03:51] <sniqqer> rivoot: this doesn't work udo apt-get install nspluginwrapper flashplugin-nonfree lib32mss-mdns
[03:52] <apocalypt> el_compA: i use kde ..just a moment i need to start my notebook with gnome.
[03:52] <el_compA> You forgot the sniqqer
[03:52] <sniqqer> el_compA: what
[03:52] <el_compA> Sorry I ment you forgot the s it's sudo
[03:52] <Guest18913> Hey guys (and girls), I have an old Dell Inspiron 600m that can't see a DVD-R when I put it in the drive?
[03:52] <mgolisch> why dont you just use the one provdided by ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[03:52] <sniqqer> el_compA: i did it with sudo
[03:52] <rivoot> sniqqer try this: http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/571-install-flashplayer-in-ubuntu-64-bit-
[03:52] <mgolisch> it downloads the flashplugin from adobes website