[02:46] <metalsand> I've been working on getting my PCMCIA wireless NIC configured for 14 hours
[02:46] <metalsand> I have to go to school in 2
[02:46] <thoreauputic> twilight: you're welcome - just remind me what you are thanking me for?
[02:46] <metalsand> and haven't slept for 1
[02:46] <thoreauputic> nanomad: on the wiki would be good
[02:46] <twilight> thoreauputic problem with upgrade and findutils :)
[02:46] <queuetue> FFS.,.. the gnome VFS junk isn't actually mounted?  It's some userspace-mount scheme that is only useable by gnome?  How idiotic is that?
[02:47] <nanomad> thoreauputic, i need to work out how auth is done on that page...
[02:47] <thoreauputic> twilight: ah yes, the --force-overwrite - I remember now :)
[02:47] <ivoks> --force-all is better :)
[02:48] <thoreauputic> ivoks: a bit dangerous at times, no?
[02:48] <ivoks> no :)
[02:48] <Fator_Dee> damn, Blobwars is an *awesome* game :-)
[02:49] <thoreauputic> ivoks: does that option force overwrite without prompting?
[02:49] <ivoks> yes, that's why i love it :)
[02:49] <thoreauputic> I see :)
[02:49] <ivoks> don't ask too much questions, destroy all :)
[02:50] <thoreauputic> hahah @ ivoks
[02:50] <thoreauputic> ivoks: were you the kind of kid who took his christmas presents apart? *G*
[02:50] <ivoks> ok
[02:51] <AnguS> lol
[02:51] <AnguS> yeh
[02:51] <AnguS> signatures fixed :D
[02:54] <jordanau> metalsand, are you still working on that stuff?
[02:54] <metalsand> Yep
[02:54] <metalsand> Same exact thing
[02:54] <metalsand> The sun is pretty much done rising
[02:54] <jordanau> and its not your router right :)
[02:54] <metalsand> looks like I won't be even getting an hour of sleep :(
[02:55] <jordanau> metalsand, you you probably have done smarter things...
[02:56] <metalsand> I have 2 tests today... I'm going to fail both :(
[02:56] <topyli> i've been working today
[02:56] <jordanau> metalsand, those are finals no?
[02:56] <metalsand> One is
[02:57] <jordanau> i have a final in three hourst
[02:57] <topyli> it's not so unusal for me to be at the office but i've been actually hard at work!
[02:57] <metalsand> AP Economics, and a Physics quiz
[02:57] <Fator_Dee> Lottery all the way \o/
[02:57] <jordanau> yeah transport 1 (or fluid mechanics) here
[02:58] <metalsand> I'm still in high school (Senior year)
[02:58] <metalsand> What are you majoring in Jord?
[02:58] <jordanau> i was chemical engineering, but i am switching to software
[02:58] <jordanau> metalsand, do well on the AP test, college micro econ sucks big time
[03:01] <metalsand> Where are you located jord?
[03:01] <jordanau> auburn, Alabama
[03:02] <jordanau> No i am not attracted to my cousin, but thanks for asking
[03:02] <metalsand> aahhahahahha
[03:02] <metalsand> oh did i need that
[03:02] <squareff> i partially downloaded an iso file and it seems to be broken. rsync wants to completely redownload it, which i can't easily accept (i am on a slow connection)... so do you know any application which could fix the partial file and resume downloading? or can rsync do this?
[03:03] <jordanau> squareff, you can probably do a md5 checksum to see if it is okay
[03:04] <squareff> how can a md5 checksum help on a partial file?
[03:04] <squareff> jordanau: how can a md5 checksum help on a partial file?
[03:04] <jordanau> oh its partial
[03:04] <jordanau> i thought it was complete and broken, thats what i get for not reading
[03:04] <thoreauputic> squareff: wget -c <URL> migh work
[03:05] <thoreauputic> *might
[03:05] <squareff> thank you, thoreauputic... "-c" stands for what?
[03:06] <Fator_Dee> continue
[03:06] <wdh> squareff, for rtfm :)
[03:06] <jordanau> continue
[03:06] <thoreauputic> squareff: it's the flag for resuming a download
[03:07] <squareff> wdh: i admit that was a quite lazy question, but i don't even have wget installed on this computer... :)
[03:07] <wdh> that takes about 10 seconds.. even on a slow connection :)
[03:07] <thoreauputic> wdh: I read the man, but I confess I only remember about 3 wget flags out of about 70 ;-)
[03:08] <fabio_85> hello people
[03:08] <topyli> that's quite enough most days
[03:08] <wdh> thoreauputic, sure, but that doesnt keep you from checking one out that you dont know about :)
[03:08] <wdh> information is not about knowing things.. but about knowing where to find it :)
[03:08] <fabio_85> guys, has somebody C knowledge in here?
[03:08] <topyli> prolly
[03:09] <squareff> wdh: i'm obsessed with keeping my system clean; i wouldn't install anything without making sure i really need it (that's why i wanted to know how relevant that "-c" switch was)
[03:09] <Fator_Dee> well, the explanations are always there, sitting happily among others in the man-file
[03:09] <wdh> fabio_85, only _very_ basic :)
[03:09] <wdh> squareff, removing it takes another 5 seconds :P
[03:09] <thoreauputic> wdh: indeed, at least I know where to look :)
[03:10] <fabio_85> hello wdh, well I am starting, do u know how good is "The Gnu C Programming tutorial" rev 4.1 freely downloadable
[03:10] <thoreauputic> squareff: a linux install without wget is like a woman without kisses *grin*
[03:10] <squareff> wdh: removing? well... maybe i am too much of a newbie for this, but how cleanly are rpms removed in linux?
[03:10] <topyli> squareff: the -c option is relevant enough to justify wget's existence on any system :)
[03:10] <squareff> thoreauputic: i thought curl was enough. do you think i whould use wget instead of curl?
[03:10] <wdh> squareff, dont know much about rpm
[03:11] <squareff> topyli: this is just what i didn't know before asking :)
[03:11] <wdh> squareff, but being lazy is not a very bad thing sometimes :P
[03:11] <topyli> squareff: debian packages are removed completely if you --purge them
[03:11] <thoreauputic> squareff: use both as appropriate
[03:11] <wdh> fabio_85, no idea :)
[03:11] <jordanau> topyli, does purge in apt = complete removal in synaptic??
[03:11] <topyli> yes
[03:11] <squareff> topyli: cool! will it also remove every file it produced, plus the config files?
[03:12] <topyli> yes
[03:12] <thisfred> has anyone tried to install/run bpmdj on Ubuntu? I keep getting segfaults, but I don't know what I've missed...
[03:12] <squareff> thoreauputic: are both really necessary? can't i just use one?
[03:12] <fabio_85> wdh, np, do u know any good guide for beginners?
[03:12] <thoreauputic> squareff: do as you wish...
[03:13] <thoreauputic> squareff: some apps use wget or curl as a backend
[03:13] <wdh> fabio_85, nope.. i had some classes in school.. and that was, as i said earlier, _very_ basic :)
[03:13] <wdh> fabio_85, try /join #c
[03:13] <squareff> thoreauputic: i noticed that, this is why i kept curl
[03:13] <thoreauputic> squareff: both are tiny anyway
[03:13] <fabio_85> wdh, eheh np, that would be great, thx
[03:13] <topyli> fabio_85: it's GNU! it must be perfect! :)
[03:14] <fabio_85> topyli, well if u say so, then I go and read it soon, its only about 280pages though!
[03:14] <thoreauputic> squareff: umm.. how big is your hard drive? And how many videos and large music files do you have? better remove those as well </joke>
[03:15] <squareff> thoreauputic: on this computer i only have 4 GB
[03:15] <squareff> :)
[03:15] <topyli> fabio_85: on the other hand, it might be a "GNU coding style" type thing for getting your code accepted in GNU stuff
[03:15] <wdh> fabio_85, recognise the irony :)
[03:16] <thoreauputic> squareff: you didn't answer my other questions - start with your pr0n stash ;-)
[03:16] <fabio_85> wdh, :) ahah no well I wanted a good hint
[03:16] <jordanau> what is the minimal install size you can get ubuntu, (no X no extra software)
[03:16] <wdh> fabio_85, you should really ask on #c, guess you'll get more valuable input there
[03:16] <squareff> thoreauputic: i thought my 4 GB hdd was enough of an answer
[03:17] <fabio_85> wdh, I am already in trying to ask :P
[03:17] <wdh> jordanau, dont remember, i read something about it on the wiki the other day.. you could try and search it for something like 'server install'
[03:17] <jordanau> thoreauputic, right, it means he downloads high compression low quality stuff
[03:17] <jordanau> wdh, thanks
[03:17] <jordanau> squareff, just kidding :)
[03:17] <fabio_85> wdh, but they are all smart a**es, and maybe not helping a beginner
[03:18] <squareff> jordanau: :)
[03:18] <thoreauputic> squareff: my old P200 has only 2gig, and it has curl and wgwt installed :)
[03:18] <thoreauputic> *wget
[03:18] <jordanau> thoreauputic, where do ya keep the pr0n stash then?
[03:18] <wdh> fabio_85, sure they will, just be patient.. and read the topic
[03:18] <squareff> thoreauputic: yeah... i was going to install wget anyway... so... stop persuading me! :))
[03:18] <topyli> jordanau: i keep mine on your server ;)
[03:19] <fabio_85> wdh, eheh will do :P
[03:19] <jordanau> topyli, just out of curiosity, not that i care or anything... but where on the server...?
[03:20] <topyli> jordanau: in /root/.topyli of course :)
[03:20] <jordanau> topyli, thanks
[03:20] <thoreauputic> squareff: I'm not trying to persuade you - you can use telnet and a punchcard system as far as I'm concerned - OH BTW don't forget to uninstall Emacs if you have it ;-)
[03:22] <thoreauputic> jordanau: no pr0n stash on my old woody box: I have a netork for big files ;-)
[03:22] <thoreauputic> *network
[03:22] <topyli> thoreauputic: you keep your stuff on jordanau's server too?
[03:22] <jordanau> thoreauputic, hehe you said woody
[03:22] <topyli> heh
[03:22] <topyli> haven't heard that in a while
[03:23] <thoreauputic> topyli: I think something like /root/boring.financial.stats/.pr0n would be better ;-)
[03:24] <topyli> yeah. /root/windows_nt-internals/.pr0n
[03:24] <thoreauputic> are you guys dissing my old pentium with its rock-solid Woody install ?
[03:24] <jordanau> /home/mom/recipies
[03:25] <jordanau> oh wait thats a bad idea
[03:25] <topyli> terrible :)
[03:25] <thoreauputic> haha
[03:25] <topyli> thoreauputic: we would never dis a rock solid woody
[03:25] <jordanau> topyli, haha you said... oh nevermind...
[03:25] <ivoks> jebote!!! odustajem
[03:25] <thoreauputic> topyli: indeed not!
[03:26] <ivoks> man, some people are born dumb
[03:26] <jordanau> ivoks, is that in the man pages?
[03:26] <ivoks> nope... that's expirience talking :)
[03:26] <topyli> man some_people(2)
[03:27] <jordanau> ivoks, BTW there is one born every minute
[03:28] <jordanau> for people in minutesInHour:  if people % 60 == 0  birth moron
[03:28] <thoreauputic> topyli: peter@prospero:~$ man some_people
[03:28] <thoreauputic> No manual entry for some_people
[03:28] <thoreauputic>   << how true
[03:29] <topyli> heh
[03:31] <metalsand> ivoks thinks I'm dumb because he can't get my PCMCIA drivers to work :D
[03:31] <rommer> is there a open source program like vmware available for win32/linux?
[03:31] <anto9us> rommer: qemu
[03:31] <jordanau> metalsand, do you have a severe inferiority complex?
[03:31] <ivoks> i think u are dumb couse u don't see file u just created :)
[03:32] <rommer> ok thanks
[03:32] <metalsand> Nope.
[03:32] <jordanau> i retract my last statement...
[03:32] <metalsand> ivoks, I ls'd and used the GUI and it wasn't there.
[03:32] <ivoks> lol
[03:32] <rommer> anto9us: linux only?
[03:32] <topyli> jordanau: too late!
[03:32] <topyli> :)
[03:32] <ivoks> couse, this line:
[03:32] <anto9us> rommer: no, most platforms and OS are supported
[03:33] <ivoks>  /bin/sh: LOG-FILE/include: No such file or directory
[03:33] <metalsand> seriously, I just don't care anymore
[03:33] <metalsand> it's been 15:33 minutes
[03:33] <metalsand> since I've been working on/off trying to get it to work
[03:33] <Licker> anyone know of a FREE admins panal kinda like cPanal?
[03:33] <metalsand> I've gone through like 6 different people
[03:34] <rommer> anto9us: as the master/host computer?
[03:34] <ivoks> metalsand maybe u should start with some linux basics
[03:34] <jordanau> metalsand, go to school and come back with a clear head, it will make a big difference, your mad and frusterated so you cant think properly
[03:34] <anto9us> rommer: yes
[03:34] <ivoks> metalsand before u try to compile a driver
[03:34] <jordanau> your/you're
[03:34] <ivoks> jordanau that's true too
[03:35] <ivoks> but now i'm frusterated too :)
[03:35] <ivoks> and mad :)
[03:36] <ivoks> metalsand !!
[03:36] <ivoks> metalsand if u are root allready, don't run make with sudo
[03:37] <ivoks> just type make all
[03:37] <metalsand> weird
[03:37] <metalsand> I couldn't press enter
[03:37] <apj__> Hi, all,
[03:37] <metalsand> jordanau, I'm not mad or frusterated
[03:37] <metalsand> I'm not even thinking
[03:37] <metalsand> im just following commands
[03:38] <apj__> anyone had experinced same as me when mirror ubuntu?
[03:38] <apj__> I used debmirror for this task.
[03:38] <apj__> mirror only i386
[03:38] <FlyingSquirrel32> hey, what's up with nfs on ubuntu? keep getting an error RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused
[03:39] <queuetue> FlyingSquirrel32, you need to activate RPC for non-local ips.
[03:39] <anto9us> apj__: i386 is the default kernel, you can upgrade it after install
[03:39] <FlyingSquirrel32> queuetue: how is that done?
[03:39] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: you need to allow portmap to listen on external interfaces
[03:39] <queuetue> FlyingSquirrel32, edit /etc/default/portmap and restart portmapper.
[03:40] <queuetue> has anyone in here used Solaris in the last ten years or so?  I have not, and am debating whether it's worthwhile to refresh that skill set, or if solaris (software, anyway) can be drop-in-replaced with Linux just about everywhere these days...
[03:40] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: you might need the same for nfs itself
[03:40] <apj__> Yep, my problem is when I debmirror all package repository for i386/breezy
[03:40] <apj__> It show up with error.
[03:40] <FlyingSquirrel32> okay where would the one for nfs be?
[03:41] <FlyingSquirrel32> queuetue, anything else I should know besides the norm?
[03:41] <apj__> that it failed with md5sum
[03:41] <queuetue> FlyingSquirrel32, That it's commented out for security purposes, and you are circumventing those security procedures?
[03:42] <apj__> like this problem
[03:42] <apj__>  dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 failed md5sum check, removing
[03:42] <orhs> hey
[03:42] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: make sure you have a configured firewall/iptables before you run nfs
[03:43] <orhs> i need a fire wall..
[03:43] <orhs> any suggestions??
[03:43] <bezibaerchen> iptables
[03:43] <desplesda> orhs, apt-get install firestarter
[03:43] <desplesda> :)
[03:43] <queuetue> orhs, gypsum board is good, for relatively cool fires...
[03:44] <FlyingSquirrel32> one sec, I'm on a helpdesk call...
[03:44] <orhs> lol many different firewalls here
[03:44] <thoreauputic> orhs: firestarter is a good basic firewall, and easy to set up
[03:44] <desplesda> firestarter is a pretty good configuration tool for iptables
[03:46] <quiet> hey.. I just installed phpPgAdmin, how do I access it??
[03:48] <oholiks> hello
[03:49] <flames> ie with ubuntu wine works for anybody?
[03:49] <oholiks> anyone with an idea as to why my gdm session just wont run either the command in the session file nor my on .xsession?
[03:49] <queuetue> flames, For varying degrees of "works", yes. :)
[03:50] <whiteknight> hi everyone, does anyone have a G4 iBook with a working microphone?
[03:50] <oholiks> sorry.. ofcourse i'd find it now..
[03:50] <orhs> hmm ok firestarter is installed. now were is it located???
[03:50] <queuetue> orhs, sudo firestarter
[03:51] <FlyingSquirrel32> k, I'm back
[03:51] <queuetue> sudh -h firestarter, I think.
[03:51] <FlyingSquirrel32> thoreauputic, I'm pretty sure I opened up the firewall already, are there any other unique securityies that ubuntu has by default?
[03:52] <desplesda> orhs, firestarter will appear in the system tools menu
[03:52] <elcu> hello, i'm getting choppy video in totem.  i've tried 'hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd', but it still seems kind of choppy.
[03:52] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: basically everything is shut by default
[03:52] <whiteknight> thoreauputic, sorry to bother, but does your microphone work on your ppc?
[03:52] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: in other words, you have to open services to the big bad world yourself
[03:52] <Crasp> hello
[03:53] <Crasp> is there also an "unstable" of ubuntu like with debian?
[03:53] <thoreauputic> whiteknight: I have an iBook G4 - afaik it doesn't have an input jack
[03:53] <flames> queuetue: sorry, i don't understand "For varying degrees", i don't speak english, just a little :(
[03:53] <AnguS> just breezy... thats like testing/unstable i guess :P
[03:53] <Kartagis> hi, I have a question regarding noatun. should I take it to #kubuntu?
[03:53] <Crasp> Kartagis: afaik noatun ahs nothing to do with kde
[03:53] <thoreauputic> whiteknight: I haven't tried to see if there's a built-in mic though
[03:54] <b0ol> hi, how to mount smb partitions ? ubuntuusers.de is down sry
[03:54] <whiteknight> thoreauputic, don't worry got it working
[03:54] <queuetue> flames, Like saying that x is greater than 100 ... for varying values of x.
[03:54] <Crasp> b0ol: mount //machine/share /mnt/share
[03:54] <b0ol> sure?
[03:54] <exalted> i've tried for sometime breezy, but i'm sick of everyday updates. How can i return back to the "stable" hoary?
[03:54] <Crasp> b0ol: 100%
[03:54] <queuetue> flames, it all depend son how you define "working"  Personally, I think IE is broken on WIndows, let alone under Wine.
[03:54] <b0ol> Crasp:
[03:54] <b0ol> doesnt work :>
[03:55] <thoreauputic> queuetue: that's true .. for certain values of "true" ;)
[03:55] <queuetue> toresbe, Exactly!
[03:55] <Crasp> b0ol: do you have samba installed?
[03:55] <b0ol> nope
[03:55] <b0ol> thats it!
[03:55] <b0ol> :x
[03:55] <Crasp> b0ol: might want to do that first then :)
[03:55] <queuetue> thoreauputic, Exactly!
[03:55] <b0ol> how to install?
[03:55] <Crasp> apt-get install samba
[03:55] <elcu> anyone? ... choppy DVD playback.
[03:55] <b0ol> thats all?
[03:55] <toresbe> queuetue: I'm glad you agree
[03:55] <Crasp> b0ol: yes
[03:55] <spidey> What is the best NES emulator?
[03:55] <b0ol> k thnx :)
[03:55] <toresbe> spidey: bochs
[03:55] <Crasp> spidey: snes9x or zsnes
[03:55] <queuetue> toresbe, Sorry about that. - Go back to sleep. :)
[03:55] <b0ol> its downloadin
[03:55] <toresbe> queuetue: I will :P
[03:56] <toresbe> spidey: heh, just kidding
[03:56] <toresbe> Crasp: that's for SNES
[03:56] <Crasp> toresbe: oh yeah, sorry :)
[03:56] <toresbe> spidey: Try them all
[03:56] <toresbe> spidey: nesticle worked when I tried it
[03:56] <orhs> iam new to linux. can someone name some good programs?
[03:56] <tritium> flames, winetools with wine from winehq.com (rather than universe) work well together.  You may want to give that a try.
[03:56] <FlyingSquirrel32> thoreauputic, besides the RPC and iptables, where else whould I look?
[03:56] <anto9us> orhs: what do you want to do?
[03:57] <b0ol> Crasp:
[03:57] <b0ol> it still doesnt work
[03:57] <b0ol> :<
[03:57] <b0ol> the samba partition is on a windows machine
[03:57] <b0ol> in local network
[03:57] <elcu> orhs: beep-media-player and gqview are two of the first apps i install.
[03:57] <Kartagis> okay, noatun gives me sound of the mpg very very high, like a distortion or something. I tried all controls to lower the sound but no, it didn't happen. mp3 plays just fine. what more can I do?
[03:58] <desplesda> orhs: install evince, muine and tomboy, they're pretty cool and useful
[03:58] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: hmm... I think "locate nfs | grep etc " might help - some of the defaults are in obscure places though, and I don't have nfs curently on this box
[03:58] <flames> thanks, queuetue and tritium, ok, i try wintools
[03:58] <tritium> winetools
[03:58] <flames> ok
[03:58] <tritium> flames, remember, you have to use the version of wine from winehq.com, and not the one in universe
[03:58] <queuetue> flames, I wouldn't cal what I did "helping", so there is really no need to thank me. :)
[03:59] <FlyingSquirrel32> thoreauputic, ok, I'll try what you said at home this weekend and see how it goes.
[03:59] <tritium> flames, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[03:59] <FlyingSquirrel32> thoreauputic, That's probably why samba server didn't work either
[03:59] <exalted> How to downgrade to hoary from breezy?
[03:59] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: I know I had a hard time tracking down some defaults when I set it up on warty
[04:00] <rj__> Security patch is fundamentally broken
[04:00] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: this is a relatively new install of Hoary and I haven't configured nfs on it yet
[04:00] <rj__> hrm
[04:00] <flames> tritium: thx
[04:00] <FlyingSquirrel32> thoreauputic, do you know of any good warty specific docs?
[04:00] <FlyingSquirrel32> i mean hoary
[04:00] <martinhj> exalted: how is breezy these days?
[04:00] <exalted> martinhj, ?
[04:00] <rj__> dangerous
[04:01] <rj__> lol
[04:01] <tritium> flames, after addine the repository from winehq.com, and updating, run "sudo aptitude install wine=0.0.20050310-1"
[04:01] <elcu> i've got two things i'd like to fix: (1) - choppy DVD video and (2) - nautilus freezes when I view the properties of an mp3 file
[04:01] <tritium> s/addine/adding
[04:01] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: I think http://ubuntuguide.org still has a warty link
[04:01] <martinhj> exalted: I suppose you have tried it since you want to downgrade from it to hoary
[04:01] <exalted> martinhj, yeah
[04:01] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: it's a good one to read for hoary as well
[04:01] <FlyingSquirrel32> thoreauputic, yeah, but it doesn't even touch nfs
[04:01] <rj__> I'am running breezy right now, not too many problems, just some small things that are annoying
[04:02] <FlyingSquirrel32> thoreauputic, otherwise, it the best!
[04:02] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: also of course the wiki on ubuntulinux.org
[04:02] <martinhj> exalted: and how is it compared to hoary? many interesting changes yeat?
[04:02] <Kartagis> guys, noatun gives me a very crappy sound of the mpg, like a distortion or something. I tried all controls to lower the sound but no, it didn't happen. mp3 plays just fine. what more can I do?
[04:02] <rj__> like HAL being complete garbage
[04:02] <rj__> i can't even use my USB pen device
[04:02] <FlyingSquirrel32> thoreauputic, I'll check that one out. Thanks.
[04:02] <martinhj> s/yeat/yet
[04:02] <thoreauputic> exalted: if you upgraded to breezy, you get to keep the pieces when it breaks
[04:03] <exalted> martinhj, i'm just sick of ubuntu's virtual package policy like ubuntu-base package; couldn't ever get the idea behind it, i cannot remove most of the packages i want thx to'em.
[04:03] <tritium> exalted, yes you can.
[04:03] <exalted> tritium, how?
[04:03] <tritium> debian has meta-packages too.  Just let them uninstall along with whatever you want to remove.
[04:04] <exalted> tritium, in this way i just loose my version control.
[04:04] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/NFS-HOWTO/  is quite useful
[04:05] <b0ol> how to mount samba partitions ?
[04:05] <fabio> Guys, does the TMP folder empty itself at each reboot?
[04:05] <tritium> exalted, no
[04:05] <exalted> tritium, if you try to remove ubuntu-base it removes gdm with it =)
[04:05] <tritium> fabio, yes
[04:05] <fabio> tritium, thanks
[04:06] <tritium> exalted, many people, for example, allow ubuntu-desktop to uninstall when they want to remove something they don't particularly like
[04:07] <exalted> tritium, what about the ubuntu-base?
[04:07] <tritium> exalted, what package do you want to remove?
[04:07] <tritium> ubuntu-base is more important
[04:07] <exalted> tritium, that's what i'm saying exactly.
[04:08] <tritium> what package?
[04:08] <thoreauputic> exalted: why are you running breezy when you don't know how to check for metapackages ? :/
[04:08] <exalted> tritium, let's see a min.
[04:08] <exalted> thoreauputic, it's just my biz.
[04:08] <Mahl> Hey how do I Mount IMG files in ubuntu?
[04:09] <rommer> has anyone used qemu to run linux on windows, if so could u help me set it up?
[04:09] <exalted> tritium, vim
[04:09] <thoreauputic> exalted: read the bit at the bottom of " apt-cache show ubuntu-base "
[04:09] <b0ol> how to mount samba partitions ?
[04:10] <Triffid-Hunter> b0ol: there's no such thing as a samba partition
[04:10] <thoreauputic> exalted: you can do as you wish - my question wasn't unreasonable, however
[04:11] <Crasp> does ubuntu have an "unstable" like debian does?
[04:11] <b0ol> Triffid-Hunter:
[04:11] <exalted> Crane, yes it's breezy for now
[04:11] <b0ol> how to mount a windows-'freigabe' (german sry)
[04:11] <exalted> Crane, sorry
[04:11] <exalted> Crasp, that was 4 you
[04:11] <tritium> exalted, you can remove vim, if you wish.  As thoreauputic, be aware of the warning (by reading the results from "apt-cache show ubuntu-base")
[04:11] <Crasp> exalted: ok thanks :)
[04:11] <martinhj> Crasp: breezy will become stable in october.. until then it's where the new packages is
[04:11] <thoreauputic> Crasp: not as such - breezy is the current development branch
[04:11] <tritium> As thoreauputic says, that is...
[04:12] <Mahl> Hey how do I Mount IMG files in ubuntu? its of a CD
[04:12] <ivoks> man!
[04:12] <Triffid-Hunter> b0ol: ah a shared folder? normally mount -t smbfs //server/mount /mnt/point
[04:12] <martinhj> Crasp: but I think you will find the ubuntu "unstable" more _unstable_ than debian unstable
[04:12] <ivoks> it works :)
[04:12] <exalted> tritium, if i want to remove completely vim, it removes ubuntu-base.
[04:12] <InitMass> anyone else using nicotine and having problem with lag?
[04:12] <Triffid-Hunter> add in -o username=blah,password=blah,ip=blah if you need to
[04:12] <tritium> exalted, right, which you can do.  Again, read the warning.
[04:13] <Crasp> martinhj: hmm ok, what should i do then if i require package version x to install package y?
[04:13] <Mahl> I guess nobody knows then
[04:13] <tritium> exalted, there's a difference between remove a meta-package and removing all of its dependencies.  removing ubuntu-base does _not_ remove all its dependencies
[04:13] <exalted> tritium and thoreauputic, thx for you attention and help
[04:13] <thoreauputic> exalted: have you read it yet? Please read it if not
[04:14] <tritium> no problem, exalted.  If you decide to upgrade to breezy when it becomes stable in October, you may want to reinstall ubuntu-base before you upgrade.
[04:14] <exalted> tritium, i know, which is a non-nice think :)
[04:14] <martinhj> Crasp: _maybe_ you could pull out the package from the breezy branch
[04:15] <martinhj> Crasp: but I'm no apt-expert
[04:15] <martinhj> ask one:-)
[04:15] <tritium> exalted, you can uninstall it again after you upgrade to breezy.
[04:15] <[Hatred] > brb
[04:16] <flames> which items must install in winetools for ie? just "Internet Explorer 6.0 SP1 English"?
[04:16] <Crasp> martinhj: not even sure it's in breezy :)
[04:16] <Crasp> is there any webinterface perhaps that i can query for packages in breezy?
[04:16] <Crasp> or any other option
[04:16] <tritium> packages.ubuntu.com
[04:16] <Crasp> great
[04:17] <exalted> tritium, just as a suggestion, i think ubuntu (and debian also) has to find a better solution to this issue? don't you think?
[04:17] <martinhj> Crane: and www.apt.org I thin
[04:17] <martinhj> think
[04:17] <thoreauputic> flames: I doubt that vanilla wine will run IE (I may be wrong)
[04:17] <b0ol> Crasp:
[04:17] <martinhj> exalted: sorry, but what issue?
[04:17] <b0ol> help me :x i still cant mount smb
[04:17] <b0ol> :<
[04:17] <thoreauputic> flames: and I would run away from IE if at all possible anyway
[04:17] <exalted> martinhj, relation between meta-packages and upgrades.
[04:18] <tritium> flames, step through winetools, do the base setup and windows system software install
[04:18] <jnc> erg.... http://pastebin.com/280448  anyone?
[04:18] <jnc> trying to figure out what is broken
[04:18] <jnc> i think it might be the locales
[04:18] <thoreauputic> b0ol: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[04:19] <flames> thoreauputic: i need ie just for test a page
[04:19] <b0ol> k thoreauputic  im on it :)
[04:19] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i found the solution as to why you can't install teamspeak in ubuntu ^_^
[04:19] <tritium> jnc, please try to be more specific.  At least tell us if this is hoary or breezy, and give a general description.
[04:19] <b0ol> flames:  dont use ie:)
[04:19] <Crasp> martinhj: hmm that's not really gonna work, it says i have to update libc6 as well, so that will probably update 90% of my system to breezy :)
[04:19] <b0ol> to test a page use opera
[04:19] <b0ol> or firefox
[04:19] <Triffid-Hunter> hehe yeah the chances of it bein broke in IE are so high you're fairly safe assuming it'll come out mangled
[04:19] <tritium> jnc, for example, what did you paste on pastebin?  What is that from?
[04:19] <thoreauputic> flames: OK - I see :)
[04:19] <Mahl> Fine nobody can help me
[04:20] <flames> i use firefox and opera, but my visitors use ie..
[04:20] <paulproteus> b0ol: Or give your users IE7 - see dean.edwards.name/IE7/
[04:20] <tritium> Mahl, with what?
[04:20] <martinhj> Crasp: ok, I got the same problem.. I just commented out that respository..
[04:20] <Triffid-Hunter> Mahl: try cdemu
[04:20] <paulproteus> flames: Check out IE7 please. :)
[04:20] <Triffid-Hunter> works in gentoo
[04:20] <martinhj> Crasp: but maybe you need those upgrades?
[04:20] <Crasp> well perhaps does anybody else know a good binary leech application for X?
[04:21] <Crasp> i wanted to install klibido
[04:21] <jnc> tritium: oh, my mistake
[04:21] <jnc> tritium: i gave breezy a spin, then realised that when printing broke i was in a bad situation,  i need printing to work but i don't see any way to downgrade back to hoary
[04:21] <jnc> tritium: some things work in hoary that are helpful fixes (since i'm  on amd64)  other things broke
[04:21] <jnc> tritium: to make gnucash work again (unsupported, i know)  i had to reinstall guile and some other bits.  now it works fine though
[04:21] <jnc> tritium: i figure that CUPS may be similar.  one of the back-end filters is dying due to locale issues i guess
[04:21] <jnc> i don't know enough about perl to make a diagnosis
[04:21] <Triffid-Hunter> klibido is buggy as hell
[04:21] <Triffid-Hunter> but i havent found anything better yet
[04:22] <jnc> tritium: i meant, some things in breezy are fixed that are not in hoary which are nice.  the #ubuntu-dev folks tell me i'm not supposed to talk unless i have a patch
[04:22] <Crasp> Triffid-Hunter: how did you install it?
[04:22] <Triffid-Hunter> i havent tried running forte agent under wine yet tho
[04:22] <jnc> which is tough, since i'm just a mid-level dev and i don't know where the trouble is exactly
[04:22] <tritium> jnc, for general support, you should come here, yes
[04:22] <Triffid-Hunter> Crasp: emerge klibido, but i'm not using ubuntu so that won't help you
[04:22] <b0ol> well
[04:22] <Crasp> Triffid-Hunter: lol, no not at all ;)
[04:22] <b0ol> why is the transferspeed from sharedfolder on win machine to linux machine so slow? (about 36 k)
[04:22] <b0ol> !?
[04:23] <martinhj> Crane: what does klibido do?
[04:23] <martinhj> sorry, crasp
[04:23] <Triffid-Hunter> if its not in your apt tree, you'll need to grab source, and install from there.. you'll have to install the blah-dev packages for anything the compile says is missing
[04:23] <jnc> tritium: oh.   i'm looking to come up with a fix myself.  i was asking for a helpful pointer in the right direction
[04:23] <tritium> jnc, there are ways to downgrade
[04:23] <Triffid-Hunter> martinhj: it downloads binaries from newsgroups
[04:23] <thoreauputic> b0ol: because you haven't configured samba properly?
[04:24] <thoreauputic> b0ol: or possibly you haven't configured the win box properly
[04:24] <b0ol> :X
[04:24] <jnc> tritium: if i can fix this in breezy, i'm not sure i'd want to downgrade.  i'm a bit upset that it's not what i'm used to -   being a Gentoo dev i am expecting to be able to help out and make fixes and ask for helpful pointers on what's broken and what to do about it
[04:24] <jnc> [/rant]
[04:24] <b0ol> where is there something to configure @ winbox ? and what to configure @ samba?
[04:24] <Triffid-Hunter> yeah go grab speedguide.net's tcpoptimizer for your win box an fix its recieve window
[04:25] <b0ol> @ thoreauputic
[04:25] <b0ol> :x
[04:25] <Triffid-Hunter> lol inc
[04:25] <jnc> tritium: so um, who knows about the backend filters for cups?  i was thinking i might want to re-install those packages and see if it fixes the locale issue
[04:25] <tritium> jnc, upset about what?
[04:25] <rommer> has anyone used qemu on windows?
[04:26] <thoreauputic> b0ol: read http://ubuntuguide.org and search the wiki for samba
[04:26] <tritium> jnc, check bugzilla to look for bugs in a particular package
[04:26] <jnc> tritium: oh... when something's broke i'd rather make it work than downgrade and stick my head in the sand ;)
[04:26] <jnc> tritium: i'm not entirely sure this one is a bug
[04:26] <thoreauputic> b0ol: I don't use windows any more and my network is nfs
[04:26] <jnc> i'm asking if you guys know where the locale bits are kept for perl
[04:26] <Mahl> Triffid-Hunter, it seems that cdemu doesnt support .img files
[04:26] <jnc> and if that's what the fatal part is
[04:26] <jnc> http://pastebin.com/280448
[04:26] <tritium> jnc, but you can look at the bug activity, and verify
[04:26] <Triffid-Hunter> hrm dam :/
[04:27] <Anthro> I am trying to boot my dual G4 with the 5.04 PPC LiveCD. It seems to do everything it should, up to a point. I am now staring at a screen with a non-flashing underscore in the upper left corner and nothing else.
[04:27] <jnc> tritium: yeah.  i'd like to know where the error is before i go filing a report on it
[04:28] <veritas_> test
[04:29] <Anthro> I suspect that the problem has to do with having two video cards. I also have Debian installed on the machine (it's broken at the moment, which is why I'm booting with a liveCD), and both it and the liveCD show bootloader output on the primary screen, then everything further on the secondary screen.
[04:29] <thoreauputic> veritas_: failure
[04:29] <veritas_> Heh
[04:29] <veritas_> guess what
[04:29] <veritas_> My drivers are configured
[04:29] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:29] <veritas_> I'm still trying to get it working, but...
[04:29] <Anthro> Is there some option I should give the bootloader to make it work properly?
[04:30] <BiMaNs> hello guys
[04:30] <FlyingSquirrel32> b0ol: did you do the copy in the gui or from the shell terminal?
[04:30] <tritium> jnc, the locales don't appear to be setup correctly, but it fell back to "C", so that's not the main problem, apparently.
[04:30] <thomas__> im having problems with ubunto and the Sound, i dont get any, what do i have to do, SB audigy, and the latest release of ubuntu???
[04:31] <Licker> how do i reset my ROOT password
[04:31] <pupe> Definitivamente vuelvo a Gnome
[04:31] <tritium> Licker, you're encouraged to use sudo
[04:31] <pupe> kde me canso, demasiados bugs.. mas que windows
[04:31] <Mahl> So if anybody else can help me...How do I mount an .IMG (cd) file within linux?
[04:31] <thoreauputic> Licker: sudo passwd root  (if you insist)
[04:31] <BiMaNs> when i done downloading ubunbtu ,, a extracted it to a cd and then i try to boot it but its doesn't works ,, so ?
[04:31] <tritium> Mahl, is it an iso9660 image?
[04:32] <tritium> Licker, please read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:32] <Anthro> Mahl: mount -o loop,ro -t iso9660 imagefile mountpoint
[04:32] <Mahl> tried mounting it with the -t iso9660 ...didnt work
[04:32] <Licker> thoreauputic: im trying to let someone ssh me but they got a error.. fatal error: updatedb: You are not authorized to create a default slocate database!
[04:32] <Anthro> Mahl: What error did it give?
[04:33] <thoreauputic> Mahl: you need to do sudo modprobe loop first
[04:33] <jnc> tritium: okie.  i'm gonna go mess with gs and see if i can't make it behave, else i will file a bug report.  thanks!
[04:33] <thoreauputic> Licker: umm - whay are they running updatedb ?
[04:33] <Mahl> still dont work
[04:33] <Anthro> Mahl: What error are you getting?
[04:33] <thoreauputic> *why
[04:33] <Licker> thoreauputic: he is trying to login to install some things on my server.
[04:33] <Mahl> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop2,
[04:33] <Mahl> etc etc
[04:34] <tritium> jnc, your printer wasn't found at one point.  Did you see the "No such device" error?  I'd try some simple test pages before trying postscript
[04:34] <Anthro> Mahl: Ah, sounds like it isn't an ISO file. What does file tell you about the .IMG file?
[04:34] <thoreauputic> Licker: root login is dsabled by default, and I assume he has no sudo rights?
[04:34] <thoreauputic> *disabled
[04:34] <Licker> nope
[04:34] <Licker> how do I turn it back on
[04:34] <tritium> Licker, I gave you a URL that tells you how
[04:35] <Mahl> its an img of a cd...thats all I know
[04:35] <Mahl> im not...that good...im not a noob...im a semi noob :D
[04:35] <Licker> ok
[04:35] <jnc> tritium: *achem* the simple test page was    `echo "hello world" | lp`  ;)
[04:35] <Anthro> Mahl: Run /bin/file on it (or maybe it's /usr/bin/file)
[04:35] <Mahl> it says its a data file
[04:35] <tritium> jnc, okay ;)  Sorry, I've not seen this problem until today.
[04:36] <Anthro> Mahl: Hrm. Where did this image come from?
[04:36] <jnc> tritium: that is also helpful to know
[04:36] <tritium> jnc, sorry I can't be more helpful.
[04:36] <jnc> surely someone on amd64 is using breezy, if you haven't heard yet about it maybe there is no bug, only a trouble in the order of package installation
[04:36] <Mahl> Friend....He made some stuff and had it on cd...when he makes an image of it he always goes .img...
[04:36] <Mahl> its my fault really...when i was using windows I liked img best...then he catched on
[04:37] <Triffid-Hunter> lol
[04:37] <bezibaerchen> .img is nero iirc
[04:37] <Triffid-Hunter> yeah
[04:37] <tritium> jnc, usually the order doesn't matter.  it's not like gentoo, where you're building from source, and you have to satisfy certain build-depends before building
[04:37] <Triffid-Hunter> you want iso :P
[04:37] <jnc> .nrg was nero i thought
[04:37] <Triffid-Hunter> jnc: both are afaik
[04:37] <thoreauputic> Mahl: you might have to convert it to something sane like .iso
[04:37] <Mahl> yep yep thoreauputic
[04:37] <Triffid-Hunter> i think clonecd can work out img but don't quote me on it
[04:37] <jnc> tritium: after building a few dpkgs you realize that the order is important whether you like it or not
[04:38] <Mahl> I could always burn it but im in the lack of cd's...
[04:38] <rommer> has anyone used qemu on windows?
[04:38] <tritium> jnc, that's for building.  not true for installing binary packages, in general
[04:39] <Mahl> so how do I convert it to ISO?
[04:39] <jnc> Mahl: i saw a perl script floating around that could chunk an NRG into an ISO in most cases
[04:39] <anto9us> rommer: you're a bit off topic, try asking in #qemu
[04:39] <thoreauputic> Mahl: mkisofs, or possibly use the nautilus burner facility to make an iso image
[04:40] <ThomasWinwood> Mahl: http://gregory.kokanosky.free.fr/v4/linux/nrg2iso.en.html
[04:40] <jnc> Mahl: other than that casual mention of "hey i've seen someone else do it, once" ... not much help here sorry
[04:40] <Mahl> but ThomasWinwood ...thats for nrg files..
[04:40] <ThomasWinwood> "jnc: Mahl: i saw a perl script floating around that could chunk an NRG into an ISO in most cases"
[04:41] <Anthro> So does anyone know why the livecd would fail to bring anything up after going through what appears to be a normal boot? Is there an option one can give at the boot prompt to have it boot text-only instead of trying to bring up X?
[04:41] <Mahl> gah mkisofs got like 440 options..
[04:42] <Anthro> Mahl: mkisofs isn't going to help you convert a .img file to a .iso file. It is for creating a .iso file from a directory hierarchy.
[04:43] <Mahl> oh
[04:43] <thomas__> im having problems with ubunto and the Sound, i dont get any, what do i have to do to get it workin tried alsa, OSS , ESD in settings. i have SB audigy, and the latest release of ubuntu???
[04:44] <BiMaNs> when i done downloading ubunbtu ,, i extracted it to a cd and then i try to boot it but its doesn't works ,, so whats the problem guys?
[04:45] <thomas__> BiMaNs: wrong release maybe?
[04:45] <Triffid-Hunter> BiMaNs: normally pebcak error. give us more info
[04:45] <thoreauputic> BiMaNs: if you burned it in Windows, you need to burn it raw as an ISO or you  just get a file
[04:45] <SiRrUs> BiMaNs you sure you burnt the iso correctly
[04:46] <petrovski> Mahl: I usually just rename my .img to .iso.  I mean, where is it frmo?
[04:52] <jnc> tritium: bwahahaha.   i made it print an error
[04:52] <lesshaste> raydogg, its in the man page
[04:52] <Mahl> its from a friend.....
[04:52] <Mahl> its a data file
[04:52] <lesshaste> Mahl, you mean it isn't a cd image at all?
[04:52] <tritium> jnc, did it give you some insight into the problem?
[04:52] <lesshaste> Mahl, what type of data file?
[04:53] <Mahl> it is a cd image
[04:53] <tritium> jnc, there are also mailing lists and forums that you can use to see if others are having the same problem, and if a fix is known.
[04:53] <raydogg> thanks lesshaste
[04:54] <lesshaste> raydogg, np "If MAILTO is defined but empty  (MAILTO=""),  no
[04:54] <lesshaste>        mail will be sent. "
[04:54] <jnc> the irony. .   gah
[04:54] <lesshaste> Mahl, the fact you can't mount it is suspicious.. try k3b and tell us what happens
[04:54] <Mahl> and k3b cant burn it...
[04:54] <jnc> tritium: it's a bug i already fixed.
[04:54] <jnc> tritium: i don't know why it's back in breezy
[04:55] <Mahl> it doesnt support it
[04:55] <raydogg> right, i found that.
[04:55] <jnc> tritium: actually, the gs-gpl package is fubar'd for amd64/breezy
[04:55] <tritium> jnc, I see
[04:55] <lesshaste> Mahl, I am thinking it is not a cd image at all
[04:55] <lesshaste> jnc, you ok?
[04:55] <jnc> tritium: gs-esp works in the same broken fashion it always has, which i was pretty sure we'd fixed in hoary
[04:56] <lesshaste> Mahl, what does "file cd.img" tell you?
[04:56] <tritium> jnc, glad you found it
[04:56] <[ben] > captive-ntfs or similar for ubuntu ?
[04:56] <lesshaste> [ben] , don't touch it
[04:56] <lesshaste> [ben] , read only is much better
[04:56] <jnc> tritium: thanks.   your diagnosing the perl bits helped a lot
[04:56] <tritium> nah, but thanks ;)
[04:58] <Mahl> it tells me its a data file
[04:59] <Nalioth> Mahl at a terminal try "file blah.img"
[04:59] <Nalioth> you folks type too fast
[04:59] <Mahl> yeah
[04:59] <Mahl> well im gonna try to install WinISO thru wine see if that works
[05:00] <Mahl> if that works I know I can convert it to bin or Iso
[05:01] <Mahl> it works :)
[05:02] <[ben] > how to tell esd (e-sound) to use a specific soundcard?
[05:05] <thomas__> im having problems with ubunto and the Sound, i dont get any, what do i have to do to get it workin tried alsa, OSS , ESD in settings. i have SB audigy, and the latest release of ubuntu???
[05:05] <Kamping_in_doze> thomas_ is it pci?
[05:05] <tritium> thomas__, make sure it's not something simple (like mute).  Can you run alsamixer and check?
[05:06] <babaliciouse> good morning y'all
[05:06] <Kamping_in_doze> hi
[05:06] <babaliciouse> any suggestions for a free antivirus program with gui for my ubuntu box
[05:06] <thomas__> Kamping_in_doze: yes
[05:06] <tritium> jnc, lots of the devs just got back from UdU, so it's been kind of quiet in there for a while
[05:06] <Nalioth> babaliciouse, klamav?
[05:07] <babaliciouse> Nalioth: yeah??? has it a gui, and easy to install?
[05:07] <thomas__> Kamping_in_doze: you mean volume control
[05:07] <Nalioth> babaliciouse, i use the command line clamav
[05:07] <Nalioth> babaliciouse, but klamav is a frontend for clamav
[05:08] <thomas__> Kamping_in_doze: what i can see it's not muted
[05:08] <Nalioth> babaliciouse, at the clamav website there are links to more frontends
[05:08] <babaliciouse> okie then - i'm gonna google for it
[05:08] <babaliciouse> ty Nalioth
[05:08] <thomas__> must i add something to the list pcm etc...
[05:08] <thoreauputic> babaliciouse: antivirus for linux doesn't normally need GUI because it's only used on servers that have to clean up windows messes
[05:08] <jordanau> babaliciouse, where are ya from?
[05:09] <babaliciouse> so a command line like clamav will do jsut fine then?
[05:09] <babaliciouse> jordanau: canada
[05:09] <anto9us> babaliciouse: clamav is in the ubuntu repositories
[05:09] <Kamping_in_doze> babalichous. clamav, antivr, bitdefender iirc. all commandline i think
[05:09] <babaliciouse> hello Angel ;)
[05:09] <FlyingSquirrel32> thoreauputic, I've got my laptop I and wanted to try the nfs thing.
[05:09] <anto9us> hey tekchick ;)
[05:10] <FlyingSquirrel32> thoreauputic, my /etc/default/portmap says ARGS="-i <IP_ADDRESS>"
[05:10] <jordanau> babaliciouse, strange, we southern americans say y'all, and you canadians say y'all, but northern americans don't
[05:10] <babaliciouse> one of my users said some freaky message about killet or something popped on his screen yesterday - so i wanted to run a scan
[05:10] <FlyingSquirrel32> thoreauputic, what should I change it to? the man only said how to set to loopback as it already is.
[05:11] <babaliciouse> jordanau: i'v travelled the world, you pick up all sorts when you do that
[05:11] <anto9us> babaliciouse: clamav is the kit I use
[05:11] <jordanau> babaliciouse, well take me with you next time, i want to travel the world
[05:11] <babaliciouse> i'm gonna give it a try angel, ty
[05:11] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: just put a # in front of the line
[05:11] <babaliciouse> lol@jordanau - not to many tekchic's on the channel eh!!!
[05:12] <Nalioth> babaliciouse, clamav is fully open source
[05:12] <FlyingSquirrel32> thoreauputic, could I do a <IP_ADDRESS>\<IP_ADDRESS> ?
[05:12] <babaliciouse> Nalioth: thats what i'm looking for so TY
[05:12] <thomas__> nice with no sound :-)
[05:12] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: afaik, not necessary
[05:13] <babaliciouse> off i got to clamav, see y'all later, eh! ;)
[05:13] <jordanau> i thought it wasnt important to have a virus scanner unless you were working with windows computers
[05:13] <jordanau> like trading files with them or email stuff
[05:13] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: just make sure that default is disabled: protect portmap etc in /etc/host.allow and /etc/hosts.deny
[05:13] <FlyingSquirrel32> thoreauputic, wouldn't it be more secure; what's afaik?
[05:13] <jordanau> FlyingSquirrel32, as far as i know
[05:13] <FlyingSquirrel32> ok.
[05:13] <FlyingSquirrel32> Thanks
[05:14] <jordanau> FlyingSquirrel32, not about the security thing, the acronym that is
[05:14] <FlyingSquirrel32> and to restart the portmap?
[05:14] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: see http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/NFS-HOWTO/  for useful info
[05:14] <FlyingSquirrel32> cool.
[05:15] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: afaik is as far as I know
[05:15] <thoreauputic> FlyingSquirrel32: sudo /etc/init.d/portmap restart
[05:15] <matze_> has somebody experience with dell cpi ubuntu and gnome ?
[05:15] <thoreauputic> from memory
[05:16] <cmg_> i had a Warty system running fine.. I just rebuilt it with Hoary and now I can only select 640x480 resolution.. any idea what I can do?
[05:16] <anto9us> matze_: I'm running a dell inspiron 9100
[05:16] <rudi-rudi> bye
[05:17] <neighborlee> I was trying to get gimp printing to work ( printing works everywyhere else but there) so I installed a newer .deb of gimp...next time I started synaptic I had 2 packages causing problems it said..so I did the fix broken pckages....when I hit 'apply' it wanted t remove like a hundred packages and im unable to figure out how to resolve this..any ideas ???
[05:17] <Kamping_in_doze> cmg_ reconfigure x
[05:17] <Dreezard> hi everyone
[05:17] <matze_> anto9us: fine, my problem is, that gnome hangs for minutest after logon, any idea ?
[05:17] <cmg_> kamp.. whats the command?
[05:17] <tritium> neighborlee, where did you get the .debs from?
[05:17] <cmg_> to configure x
[05:17] <neighborlee> tritium, gimps website
[05:17] <tritium> cmg_, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:17] <Kamping_in_doze> cmg_ in a terminal. : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:17] <Kamping_in_doze> hm
[05:17] <neighborlee> tritium, and from there I guess whomever packaged it for gimp
[05:17] <cmg_> thanks trit
[05:18] <cmg_> thanks kamp
[05:18] <tritium> neighborlee, that's why you're not supposed to mix debs from different places ;)
[05:18] <AnguS> Matrix_Soul i have a similar problem
[05:18] <lacteus> hi !
[05:18] <anto9us> matze_: could be lots of reasons
[05:18] <AnguS> since i installed tvtime the pc just freezes completelly
[05:18] <AnguS> after logon
[05:18] <Kamping_in_doze> cmg_ then you type: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:18] <AnguS> i still was unable to fix it :(
[05:18] <Dreezard> Can someone tell me how and where to add a default gateway?
[05:18] <neighborlee> tritium, yeah well I was semi desperate to get gimp printing to work..you would think apt-get would not be so terribly FUSSY but hey...thast what we got isn't it LOL
[05:19] <thomas__> is there a trick to get audigy soundcard to work in ubuntu??
[05:19] <neighborlee> tritium, imNsho I think apt-get is too damn picky about how it works..it should be replaced at once with something more efficient
[05:19] <neighborlee> tritium, <wink>
[05:19] <jnc> tritium: udev silliness.
[05:19] <neighborlee> tritium, thats frustation talking of course..but felt damn good
[05:19] <jnc> tritium: thanks again
[05:19] <tritium> neighborlee, one sec...
[05:19] <thoreauputic> neighborlee: I'm sure the devs would be happy to look at your apt rewrite ;-)
[05:19] <neighborlee> thoreauputic, LOL
[05:19] <tritium> jnc, cool - got it working?
[05:19] <neighborlee> thoreauputic, im sure they would
[05:19] <matze_> anto9us: *s* thats why I ask for the same hardware
[05:20] <petrovski> Dreezard: System -> Administration -> Networking
[05:20] <j2dope> hi im having problems with bluetooth... i can't see any bluetooth tools in my menu (despite installing them), and on boot, it says there's problems loading it?
[05:20] <neighborlee> tritium, ok ,,thanks for your efforts
[05:20] <j2dope> bluetooth worked fine for me on MDK
[05:20] <matze_> hallo busfahrer
[05:20] <neighborlee> tritium, if need be I can paste-bin the output
[05:20] <busfahrer> Hi.
[05:20] <zyga> how to disable password prompt after closing laptop lid?
[05:21] <Dreezard> @petrovski this just wont work
[05:21] <Dreezard> I have to add it manualy
[05:21] <zyga> screensaver settings indicate that no prompt should appear
[05:21] <tritium> neighborlee, the best think to do is to downgrade the gimp packages back to the hoary versions
[05:21] <matze_> busfahrer: are ya driving at the moment ?
[05:21] <busfahrer> matze_: What do you think?
[05:22] <matze_> busfahrer: I just thought where your name comes from :)
[05:22] <neighborlee> tritium, yeah thats what I was thinking exactly..I also n eed to downgrade libfontconfig1 back to its original hoary..
[05:23] <neighborlee> tritium, ie: I replaced only a few packages to get the new gimp installed.I thought it would be safe given Iwas installing unstable gimp and since ubuntuis based on unstable I figured well....
[05:23] <busfahrer> matze_: I have no idea, heh.
[05:23] <neighborlee> tritium, grabbing hoary cd
[05:23] <zooko> Greetings, people of #ubuntu!  Is there a kernel 2.6.11 source newer/better than the one in hoary universe?
[05:24] <petrovski> Dreezard: should have asked you when you installed or have been provided through DHCP
[05:24] <tritium> zooko, no, in fact, it's not supported.  Don't use it
[05:24] <zooko> I upgraded from 2.6.10 (from hoary main) to 2.6.11 (from hoary universe) and found that my new SATA drive broke, and noticed
[05:24] <zooko> that 2.6.11 from universe has sata_via 1.0 where 2.6.10 from main has sata_via 1.1...
[05:24] <tritium> zooko, 2.6.11 has no linux-restricted-modules, and is not supported
[05:25] <thoreauputic> zooko: don't even think about using 2.6.11 - it's broken
[05:25] <zooko> (Although note that it works well enough for me to be having this conversation with you while running it.)
[05:25] <zooko> Hm.
[05:25] <Dreezard> @petrovski DHCP is running at my router but i want to use a static ip. So i allways have to do "route add default gateway *.*.*.*" at startup
[05:26] <MatzeB> Is it possible to install ubuntu from a hard drive?
[05:26] <MatzeB> (well manual says it is, but it is mentioning files that don't exist and I can't get it to detect the cdrom data on my harddrive)
[05:27] <Dreezard> @petrovski is there a way to automatize that?
[05:28] <paulproteus> Dreezard: Yes.
[05:28] <Dreezard> how?
[05:28] <paulproteus> Dreezard: The easiest way is through the System Preferences - > Networking
[05:28] <paulproteus> Set a manual static IP address.
[05:28] <paulproteus> That will make the necessary changes to /etc/network/interfaces .
[05:28] <Dreezard> It doesnt work
[05:29] <paulproteus> Dreezard: What kind of "doesn't work"?
[05:29] <Dreezard> but can I just add a gateway line in the interfaces?
[05:29] <tritium> Dreezard, it does work.  You should probably "man interfaces"
[05:29] <paulproteus> Have you (1) disabled DHCP (2) set a static IP (3) set a default route?
[05:29] <zooko> Huh-oh.. applying the reiser4 patch for 2.6.11 to Ubuntu's 2.6.10 yields two rejects...
[05:29] <paulproteus> Dreezard: man interfaces will tell you about the "gateway" option.
[05:29] <tritium> zooko, you're using linux-source-2.6.10 ?
[05:30] <paulproteus> mikl: Cool IP address.
[05:30] <mikl> paulproteus: what's cool about it?
[05:30] <Dreezard> well I set everything up right in kcontrol but it wont add the gateway
[05:31] <paulproteus> It has "192.168" in it, which looks bizarre, since IPs that begin with "192.168" are private.
[05:31] <Dreezard> I've heared about others with the same Kubuntu problem
[05:31] <paulproteus> Dreezard: Even though I use Kubuntu, I don't trust its network configuration programs.
[05:31] <mikl> paulproteus: oh, right :)
[05:32] <paulproteus> The GNOME ones are known to work; you can even run them in Kubuntu if you want.
[05:32] <petrovski> Dreezard: using Gnome here so I'm not familiar with KControl. /etc/network/interfaces should do the trick though
[05:32] <tritium> Dreezard, check your /etc/network/interfaces.  "man interfaces" to see how it's supposed to be setup
[05:32] <zooko> tritium: yes
[05:32] <paulproteus> tritium++
[05:32] <Dreezard> I'll do, thx so far
[05:32] <zooko> Eh, one of those rejects doesn't look so important and the other one is easy to fix...
[05:35] <aeho> How I can use my fat32 partition?
[05:35] <zooko> nope, the result doesn't compile.
[05:36] <drcode> my io meaga jaz got I/O error all the time
[05:36] <drcode> I think it broken
[05:36] <drcode> btw: Nvidia Geforce 2 can support redaring ?
[05:36] <stazz> can *what* ?
[05:37] <eliteforce> hi
[05:37] <zooko> I know, I'll get <IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2, apply reiser4 patch, then apply linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.11...
[05:37] <drcode> when I do glxinfo there is option direct somthing
[05:37] <drcode> its in NO now
[05:37] <tritium> aeho, see www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:37] <drcode> It metter if I connect from remote or not?
[05:37] <eliteforce> i've got a little question to this howto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelByHandHowto ... whats with initrd, isn't it necessary?
[05:37] <aeho> ok
[05:38] <Licker> if im extracting a file. How do i log in as ROOT to do it?
[05:38] <miss> any mirror located in switzerland to download the iso image ???
[05:38] <miss> im in a rush
[05:38] <eliteforce> Licker: try sudo
[05:38] <eliteforce> Licker: or sudo -s
[05:38] <Licker> what would the command be?
[05:38] <eliteforce> Licker: man sudo :P
[05:38] <tritium> Licker, I already gave you the URL!
[05:38] <tritium> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:38] <tritium> (again)
[05:39] <miss> mirror.switch.ch/mirror/ubuntu
[05:39] <Licker> i didnt know if it was the same to login through ssh etc trit
[05:40] <Nalioth> brb
[05:40] <Licker> yea but how do i extract files through sudo?
[05:40] <nevyn> ?
[05:41] <paulproteus> Licker: How do you extract files without sudo?
[05:41] <zooko> Actually I think I'll skip the ubuntu patches first time around...
[05:41] <thoreauputic> Licker: sudo <your command here>
[05:41] <riffic> chat
[05:42] <Licker> ok its like... im trying to extrat a file.. but it keeps saying i dont have permissions to do it.
[05:42] <_me_> can anyone tell me if ubuntu and or kubuntu has support for external drives via Usb?
[05:43] <bob2> _me_: er, of course
[05:43] <_me_> cool
[05:44] <eliteforce> ahm what does 'Preempt The Big Kernel Lock (PREEMPT_BKL) [Y/n/?]  (NEW)  ' mean?
[05:44] <zooko> eliteforce: does hitting '?' help?
[05:45] <eliteforce> ahh ;) good idea
[05:45] <nate_> hey, whats a good wireless access-point locator in ubuntu?
[05:46] <cyphase> how do you forward a port over ssh? so if someone requests port 80 on one computer, it'll send it to port 80 on another computer through ssh
[05:46] <tritium> cyphase, man ssh, look for the -L switch
[05:46] <cyphase> thanx tritium
[05:46] <cyphase> i was to lazy to look myself
[05:46] <cyphase> lol
[05:47] <nate_> anyone?
[05:47] <petemc> nate_: netapplet
[05:47] <mojo> cyphase: go to www.thebroken.com and watch their video... they use airsnort i think on knoppix std.  the video is fun... like a hacker's underground tv show.
[05:48] <cyphase> lol
[05:48] <tritium> cyphase, e.g. ssh -L 80:<IP_ADDRESS>:80 -N -T<EMAIL_ADDRESS>where the router has an IP address from my ISP, and <IP_ADDRESS> is the IP of the server
[05:48] <tritium> (w.r.t the router)
[05:48] <cyphase> thanx tritium
[05:48] <cyphase> ;)
[05:48] <tritium> if you don't have a router, or if the computer has it's own IP, then you can simplify the above
[05:49] <cyphase> yea
[05:49] <Nalioth> cyphase, google "ssh tunneling"
[05:49] <alexandre> hello
[05:49] <alexandre> i'm looking for help on ubuntu
[05:50] <Fator_Dee> you've come to the right place
[05:50] <alexandre> :)
[05:50] <alexandre> many questions
[05:50] <alexandre> fisrt: how do i configure a multi-head system
[05:50] <Triffid-Hunter> that's more a xorg question..
[05:51] <Triffid-Hunter> should be easy to find a tute on google
[05:51] <mjr> alexandre, google for xinerama-howto, follow instructions
[05:51] <mcquaid> ya you might have better luck in #xorg or if your card is nvidia #nvidia
[05:51] <Triffid-Hunter> ah yeah xinerama thats the one
[05:51] <mcquaid> i tried awhile back to get my tv out working properly couldn't get it right
[05:51] <alexandre> the point is that i do't know the monitor property (hsync-vsync)
[05:51] <tritium> alexandre, also, read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz
[05:51] <mcquaid> only one card can have vsync and only one card can have access to xv, damn annoying
[05:51] <mojo> NE1 know where there's a gDesklet's support channel?  Can't find one on freenode...
[05:52] <alexandre> is there a global monitor database available?
[05:52] <mcquaid> i believe there is a gdesklets chan on gimpnet
[05:52] <mojo> mcquaid: thanks.. will seek
[05:52] <Triffid-Hunter> alexandre: you can calculate the hsync/vsync from the maximum resolution/refresh
[05:52] <alexandre> my second question is about wifi-card
[05:53] <alexandre> mine is based on a ralink2500 chipset
[05:53] <cyphase> tritium, i needed -R, not -L
[05:53] <Triffid-Hunter> vsync = max refresh, hsync = refresh * vert.resolution
[05:53] <cyphase> but i got it now
[05:53] <cyphase> thanx
[05:53] <alexandre> how can i make it works properly?
[05:54] <Triffid-Hunter> alexandre: do you have kernel support for it?
[05:54] <tritium> cyphase, oh, you're forwarding a remote port to a local machine?
[05:54] <metalsand`school> How can I reset PCMCIA servies?
[05:54] <cyphase> tritium, yea
[05:54] <tritium> cyphase, sorry, didn't catch that bit
[05:54] <cyphase> tritium, i didn't say that. my mistake
[05:54] <alexandre> Triffid-Hunter, it seems not, because dmesg do not indicate anything
[05:54] <alexandre> and a lsmod not
[05:55] <mirak> hi
[05:55] <cyphase> tritium, but thanx. i just needed to switch the -L for -R
[05:55] <anto9us> alexandre: it's supported via ndiswrapper
[05:55] <mirak> does anyone needed the module usbvision ?
[05:55] <mirak> I can't compile it and it's not in ubuntu nor debian
[05:55] <mirak> this is a module for usb video devices
[05:55] <cmg_> I did a new Hoary install and it started in 640x480.. on advice from in here I reconfigured X (which worked great even after reboot).  I just rebooted again and I am back to 640x480 and can not select other resolutions)
[05:55] <Triffid-Hunter> you'll need the source for your current kernel as well as glibc and gcc to compile it
[05:56] <alexandre> anto9us, can u tell me more plz?
[05:56] <metalsand> How can I reset PCMCIA servies?
[05:56] <cmg_> any idea why my X configuration won't stay setup?
[05:56] <mcquaid> i never knew about nautilus-python thingie, i really like that having xterm option in right click
[05:57] <[ben] > how do i set the default output device in alsa ( to hw:1,0 ?)
[05:57] <tritium> cmg_, are you saying the file somehow changed?
[05:57] <andreas_> Hi. I need a program to make DVD covers.
[05:58] <tritium> andreas_, glabels
[05:58] <anto9us> alexandre: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto also see http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/Installation
[05:58] <sig> andreas_: gLabels
[05:58] <andreas_> glabels cannot make covers for the boxws used here i Denmark
[05:58] <cmg_> trit.. not sure.. i just ran the reconfigure.. it worked great.. then i rebooted again and now I can only choose 640x480
[05:58] <tritium> use a custom size label
[05:58] <Triffid-Hunter> andreas_: gimp
[05:58] <Triffid-Hunter> ;)
[05:59] <andreas_> triffid: Damn hard to make them look nice though
[05:59] <tritium> andreas_, glabels supports custom sizes
[05:59] <Triffid-Hunter> oh?
[05:59] <Triffid-Hunter> whys that?
[05:59] <cmg_> tritium  ... any idea why it would lose my changes after a 2nd reboot?
[05:59] <tritium> cmg_, no, that doesn't make much sense
[05:59] <Triffid-Hunter> just gotta do it so its the right size in the native resolution of your printer
[06:00] <andreas_> Triffid: I`m guessing I`m not accustomed enough with GIMP
[06:00] <cmg_> i guess i will run reconfigure again.. what was that command?
[06:00] <tritium> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:00] <Triffid-Hunter> if you got a 300dpi printer and you're making a 6" by 9" label, your image should be 1800 by 2700 pixels
[06:00] <Triffid-Hunter> ;)
[06:00] <cmg_> thanks trit
[06:01] <Triffid-Hunter> if you edit it as a smaller image, it'll scale up when you print and you'll get jaggies everywhere
[06:01] <Triffid-Hunter> unless you edit as a vector image anyway, in which case resolution isn't nearly as relevant
[06:02] <andreas_> triffid: Thanks. I`l give it a try
[06:03] <babaliciouse> i couldn't find clamav in the repositories
[06:04] <alexandre> anto9us, i see on the page that i can install ndiswrapper-module and ndiswrapper-util using synaptic
[06:04] <anto9us> babaliciouse: it's in universe
[06:04] <sig> joe@Laptop:~$ apt-cache search clam
[06:04] <sig> amavis-ng - AMaViS "Next Generation"
[06:04] <sig> clamav - antivirus scanner for Unix
[06:04] <alexandre> i can see ndiswrapper-utils, but no module
[06:05] <anto9us> alexandre: yes, you'll also need the headers for your kernel and wireless-tools
[06:05] <ThomasWinwood> Well. Setting up the printer was no hassle at all.
[06:05] <ThomasWinwood> Ubuntu gets five bunnyhops.
[06:05] <babaliciouse> i'm using synaptic package manager - and see no universe
[06:05] <anto9us> babaliciouse: see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:05] <schasi> bunnyhops?
[06:06] <tritium> cyphase, I actually forward port 6667 to my server at home, which is running irssi-text in proxy mode, then connect my irc clients
[06:06] <babaliciouse> ty angel will rfm
[06:06] <mvirkkil> Can anyone recommend a good "pixel painting" program?
[06:06] <anto9us> mvirkkil: gimp
[06:06] <cyphase> lol
[06:07] <mvirkkil> anto9us: I said pixel painting, not photo manipulation. Gimp is horrible for pixel painting.
[06:07] <mvirkkil> anto9us: Or at least extremely cumbersome.
[06:07] <anto9us> mvirkkil: no it isn't
[06:08] <mvirkkil> anto9us: How do I define what color gets what number?
[06:08] <Triffid-Hunter> edit the pallette
[06:08] <anto9us> mvirkkil: try gnome-iconedit
[06:09] <mirak> when I try to compile usbvision module I get this errors : http://channels.debian.net/paste/95
[06:09] <allabulle> hi
[06:10] <Funraiser> hello Ubuntians
[06:10] <allabulle> I need to intall Alias Maya onto an Ubunto Distro. Any tips on that (apart of using alien to install the rpm?) Thanks in advance.
[06:11] <Funraiser> I installed Point2Play (the cedega GUI) it is installed in usr/bin : if I want to uninstall it, can i just erase it in usr/bin?
[06:12] <trygvebw> Hi, i'm having a problem with Ubuntu Hoary. GNOME won't start from GDM, and when i run it manually (gnome-session) from a X-terminal i recieve: "SESSION_MANAGER=local/John:/tmp/.ICE-unix/6524", and nothing else happens. What can be wrong?
[06:14] <Mr_Milenko> trygvecw: i had a problem with that
[06:14] <trygvebw> Did you solve it?
[06:14] <Mr_Milenko> i did apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:14] <trygvebw> Ok
[06:14] <Mr_Milenko> then re did it
[06:14] <trygvebw> so:
[06:14] <Mr_Milenko> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:14] <trygvebw> ok :)
[06:14] <babaliciouse> so if i mount a network drive, i can simply run clamav on that mount?? straight from my ubuntu machine?
[06:14] <anto9us> trygvebw: try deleting the contents of that tmp directory
[06:14] <trygvebw> i'll try it :)
[06:14] <Mr_Milenko> hope it works for ya man
[06:14] <trygvebw> anto9us, if it doesn't work i'll try that too :)
[06:15] <Mr_Milenko> hey before you do that install kde :P
[06:15] <Mr_Milenko> just in case
[06:15] <anto9us> trygvebw: I'd recommed my option first
[06:15] <trygvebw> ok :)
[06:15] <Mr_Milenko> or fluxbox :P
[06:15] <cmg_> having a problem with X and my screen resolution.. I can only select 640x480... i reconfigure X and reboot and I have other resolutions.. as soon as I reboot again.. all I have is 640x480
[06:15] <trygvebw> thanks a lot :)
[06:15] <anto9us> babaliciouse: yes
[06:16] <samy_> cmg try to configure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:16] <trygvebw> FunnyLookinHat, how did you install it?
[06:16] <trygvebw> sorry, that should be to Funraiser
[06:16] <samy_> in the screen section, i think you can add resolutions
[06:17] <alexandre> anto9us, i have an error message (??)
[06:17] <alexandre> root@macymed-alex:/home/alexandre # modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:17] <alexandre> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[06:17] <anto9us> alexandre: ok, ignore it, seen that before and it's still worked
[06:17] <cmg_> samy_.. here is something weird.  I don't have an xorg.conf.  i DO have the xorg.conf backups that the reconfigure saved for me
[06:18] <anto9us> alexandre: you have the headers installed for your kernel?
[06:18] <babaliciouse> gr8, probably should have been scanning the windows usr's directories long ago - i got samba for the xp usrs, and run all linux server (fedora + ltsp) - does ubuntu support ltsp smoothly?
[06:18] <aeho> I have a problem: when I click "properties" of any mp3 file, it crashes nautilus or whatever it is
[06:18] <samy_> cmg_ , are you sure you don't have the xorg.conf in your /etc/X11/ directory ?
[06:19] <cmg_> samy_ .. i take that back.. i DO have an xorg.conf
[06:19] <cmg_> my bad
[06:19] <Triffid-Hunter> nautilus is like that
[06:19] <trygvebw> no.
[06:19] <samy_> ok
[06:19] <samy_> open it with gedit
[06:19] <cmg_> samy_  I see a bunch of other modes in the xorg.conf already
[06:20] <anto9us> babaliciouse: I've not used it but there's a howto http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LTSPHowTo
[06:20] <alexandre> anto9us, yes,
[06:20] <anto9us> alexandre: do you have your windows drivers for your card?
[06:21] <babaliciouse> i run the fedora k12ltsp install, and it was effortless
[06:21] <alexandre> yes, but i'm not sure of wich inf file to use
[06:21] <babaliciouse> lol@ angel sending me to RFM !!!!
[06:21] <alexandre> root@macymed-alex:/home/alexandre # ndiswrapper -i windrv/M2500.INF
[06:21] <alexandre> Installing m2500
[06:21] <alexandre> root@macymed-alex:/home/alexandre # ndiswrapper -l
[06:21] <alexandre> Installed ndis drivers:
[06:21] <alexandre> m2500   driver present, hardware present
[06:21] <anto9us> :)
[06:22] <alexandre> but i can't see the ndiswrapper-module using lsmod
[06:23] <mirak> WARNING: Error inserting i2c_algo_usb (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media/i2c-algo-usb.ko): Invalid module format
[06:23] <mirak> FATAL: Error inserting usbvision (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media/usbvision.ko): Invalid module format
[06:23] <alexandre> ok
[06:23] <anto9us> alexandre: type ifconfig and it should show wlan0
[06:23] <mirak> I compiled this module, and now I can't insert it, any ideas ?
[06:23] <alexandre> now a modprobe ndiswrapper works
[06:23] <metalsand> Can someone help me configure my PCMCIA NIC?
[06:23] <alexandre> and now i can see wlan0
[06:23] <concept10> how do i ssh into my ubuntu box? ssh -l<EMAIL_ADDRESS>??
[06:23] <anto9us> concept10: no, ssh -l user xxx.xxx.xxx.xx
[06:24] <nevyn> no...
[06:24] <alexandre> anto9us, not ifconfig, iwconfig only
[06:24] <nevyn> ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:24] <thoreauputic> mirak: did you try to modprobe it with the .ko suffix? If so, try without the .ko
[06:24] <nevyn> -l should DIE
[06:24] <mirak> thoreauputic: without ko I tried
[06:24] <mirak> question, what compiler is used to compile ubuntu x86 kernels ?
[06:25] <thoreauputic> mirak: OK - just checking the obvious :)
[06:25] <anto9us> alexandre: good you can use it to set your essid and key if you have one format is iwconfig wlan0 essid <foo> key s:<bar>
[06:25] <metalsand> After I installed wlan-ng drivers for my prism 2.5 PCMCIA card, all data about the card was removed, and it was renamed when I restarted ubuntu to wlan0
[06:25] <metalsand> How do now get that working?
[06:25] <metalsand> It's not listed in Network Settings
[06:25] <metalsand> and not listed in iwconfig
[06:25] <anto9us> alexandre: make that key restricted s:<bar
[06:26] <Licker> im still having probs.. how do I let my desktop know WITHOUT beeing in sudo that im ROOT?
[06:26] <usynic> Licker: sudo /bin/bash
[06:27] <trygvebw> or sudo -i
[06:27] <trygvebw> or sudo -s
[06:27] <Mr_Milenko> hey
[06:27] <Mr_Milenko> anyone want an xbox?
[06:27] <metalsand> Anyone, anyone?
[06:27] <metalsand> I've been working at this for like 16 hours straight on/off
[06:27] <metalsand> I finally got the wlan-ng drivers to work
[06:27] <mirak> thoreauputic: I used the wrong compiler
[06:27] <metalsand> I'm so close to my goal!
[06:27] <Mr_Milenko> http://hackiis6.com <-- Hack IIS6 on Win2k3 with all Hot Fixes and WIN AN XBOX
[06:28] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[06:28] <trygvebw> metalsand, in a console:
[06:28] <Licker> nope. it stillmsays im not the owner so i cant change file types etc
[06:28] <trygvebw> sudo ifconfig up wlan0
[06:28] <Mr_Milenko> Just think.. you get to hack an official MS network legally
[06:28] <trygvebw> sudo dhclient
[06:28] <thoreauputic> Licker: BTW you should never rune a desktop as root (gnome. KDE etc) - if that's what you are trying to do
[06:28] <metalsand> wlan0: Unknown host
[06:28] <metalsand> ifconfig: `--help' gives usage information.
[06:28] <thoreauputic> mirak: oops
[06:28] <trygvebw> :/
[06:28] <trygvebw> didn't you say that it was renamed to wlan0?
[06:28] <metalsand> Yes, it is.
[06:28] <Licker> i just need to give /var/www/admin write permissions
[06:29] <metalsand> wlan0     no wireless extensions.
[06:29] <trygvebw> hm
[06:29] <metalsand> Something is wrong with it being detected as a network device
[06:29] <trygvebw> nah
[06:29] <trygvebw> modprobe wlan-ng
[06:29] <metalsand> how do I restart PCMCIA services?
[06:29] <trygvebw> iwconfig
[06:30] <alexandre> a little question: i have do a modprobe ndiswrapper. If i reboot, will i have the obligation to redo it again? is there a way to load modules at startup, (i guess so, but i do not remember the file to edit :()
[06:30] <metalsand> FATAL: Module wlan_ng not found.
[06:31] <metalsand> None of my other network devices are found, as well
[06:31] <Licker> thoreauputic: i just need to give /var/www/admin write permissions
[06:31] <metalsand> So I'd assume that's irrelevent
[06:31] <trygvebw> what does "ifconfig" say?
[06:31] <metalsand> only lists eth0 (wireless device I'm using right now ) and loopback
[06:31] <thoreauputic> Licker: afaik only root should write to that dir
[06:32] <Licker> yea how would I write to it then?
[06:32] <Licker> i need to drop some files in it. how would I do this?
[06:32] <concept10> anyone using ubuntu for server?
[06:32] <trygvebw> concept10, yes
[06:32] <Licker> concept10: thats what im TRYING to do. :p
[06:32] <concept10> trygvebw: do you have any resources on setting up server LAMP so that I can do a mambo CMS?
[06:33] <anto9us> alexandre: ndiswrapper -m will take care of that
[06:33] <trygvebw> hm
[06:33] <alexandre> anto9us, thx a lot
[06:33] <alexandre> now, configuring my wlan ;)
[06:34] <Mr_Milenko> anybody gonna watch MTV for that Xbox 360 unveiling?
[06:34] <mirak> why isn't /dev just a ramdisk instead of real files on the harddrive ?
[06:34] <concept10> nope
[06:34] <anto9us> alexandre: well done :)
[06:34] <alexandre> i little reboot, and i'll be back :)
[06:35] <thoreauputic> Licker: sudo cp file /var/www/admin/whatever
[06:35] <concept10> mirak: why use ram for all device block files?
[06:36] <mirak> speed acces ?
[06:36] <Licker> its a whole folder....
[06:36] <metalsand> trygvebw, do you not know what is wrong?
[06:36] <Licker> like.. i need just the files inside it copied.. not the folder itself
[06:36] <CaptPancakes> can anyone tell me how to get mysql to run at startup?
[06:37] <glen_> hey all
[06:37] <glen_> would it be better to install kde from unbuntu or dibian serge?
[06:38] <ironwolf> glen_: kubuntu
[06:38] <thoreauputic> Licker: cd to that dir, and copy the files in it with a wild card like *.suffix or similar (e.g. sudo cp *.html /your/html/dir or whatever)
[06:38] <alexandre> anto9us, i have reboot, and now iwconfig do not show me the card
[06:39] <metalsand> Can someone help me configure my wireless PCMCIA card
[06:39] <glen_> ironwolf: really, i carnt be bothered downloading and installing it over ubuntu tho... to lazy lol
[06:39] <thoreauputic> Licker: as an example. man cp for details on what cp can do
[06:39] <metalsand> thoreauputic, help me out :P
[06:39] <ironwolf> glen_: apt-get install kde ; ?
[06:39] <metalsand> thoreauputic, I thought I was done with installing the drivers, apparently not
[06:40] <anto9us> alexandre: did you install ndiswrapper from repository or compile from source?
[06:40] <Licker> man.. thats complicated.. thats like.. a lot of extra work that dont need to be done.. i cant go around sudo in anyway?
[06:40] <alexandre> anto9us, i must redo modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:40] <metalsand> Licker, it's better to learn how to navigate with terminal
[06:40] <Licker> :(
[06:40] <thoreauputic> metalsand: what I know about wireless would fit on a postage stamp, sorry
[06:40] <alexandre> the utils from repository. the module, i have not install it!!
[06:40] <Licker> that just seems like a lot of extra work. but ok ill try it
[06:41] <alexandre> synaptic do not show me a ndiswrapper-module to install
[06:41] <thoreauputic> Licker: cli is much quicker once you get the hang of it
[06:41] <alexandre> but its works, so it is installed anyways
[06:41] <Licker> is there a way to turn write perm. on through sudo though?
[06:41] <anto9us> alexandre: ndiswrapper-source and ndiswrapper-utils
[06:41] <glen_> ironwolf : yes but, is it better to use ubuntu's KDE or Debians?
[06:41] <glen_> ironwolf: debian serge
[06:42] <thoreauputic> Licker: the write permissions are set that way for good security reasons
[06:42] <alexandre> i have to install the source too? do i have to compile it too?
[06:42] <Licker> oh ok
[06:42] <ironwolf> glen_: what distro do you have installed now?
[06:42] <anto9us> alexandre: sorry, no
[06:42] <Licker> what does man cp mean then
[06:42] <Licker> :p
[06:42] <alexandre> well, installing gcc33
[06:42] <thoreauputic> Licker: learn more about linux permissions and commands like chown, chmod, chgrp is my advice
[06:43] <Licker> i just started learning about 4 days ago
[06:43] <Myrtti> hrm
[06:43] <thoreauputic> Licker: type man cp to find out :)
[06:43] <glen_> ironwolf: the newest ubuntu
[06:43] <metalsand> Licker: man man ;)
[06:43] <Licker> ohhh.. a manual
[06:43] <thoreauputic> Licker: to find manuals, try "apropos keyword"
[06:43] <Myrtti> any ideas on how to get boinc started up with the machine or Gnome reliably?
[06:43] <ironwolf> glen_: then I'd use ubuntu's
[06:43] <Licker> ok
[06:43] <Licker> thanx
[06:44] <thoreauputic> Licker: or "man -k <keyword>"
[06:44] <alexandre> anto9us, well it is installed now :)
[06:44] <Licker> im glad i save my log files. :p
[06:44] <alexandre> so how can i make the module to be loaded at startup?
[06:44] <alexandre> root@macymed-alex:/home/alexandre # ndiswrapper -m
[06:44] <alexandre> modprobe config already contains alias directive
[06:44] <anto9us> alexandre: ndiswrapper -m should have done that
[06:45] <alexandre> after a reboot, it seems to not being installed
[06:45] <alexandre> i must do it by and (sudo modprobe ndiswrapper)
[06:45] <debiannoob> is there a way to 'force' a certain resolution @ a certain refresh rate? i'm just getting kinda 75 hz (or even just 60hz) and properly configured horizontal/vertical refresh rates...
[06:46] <[ben] > anyone familiar with alsa?
[06:46] <glen_> ironwolf: okay cheers
[06:47] <Licker> ohhh.. i can copy the entire contents of the folder with the cp -d command..  :p
[06:47] <anto9us> alexandre: try using the network settings gui to configure it and see what happens, your problem may be related to network profiles or hotplug or something, a bit beyond me right now
[06:47] <Triffid-Hunter> [ben] : google for it.. i've done it once but it didn't work well
[06:47] <miguel_> Hello everybody
[06:48] <Triffid-Hunter> i found it was easier to remove midi support from my kernel
[06:48] <Licker> is that the same ben that I know?
[06:48] <[ben] > ?
[06:48] <Licker> from tdzk..
[06:48] <miguel_> I've got a problem with my HP USB Cd-writer, cd4e
[06:48] <Licker> he just uses the same [ben]  name then prob.
[06:48] <[ben] > k
[06:49] <[ben] > Licker, sorry for that.
[06:49] <Licker> np
[06:50] <miguel_> /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0:<3>Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0
[06:50] <poet> hi! where is mplayer for ubuntu?
[06:50] <miguel_> that is the error it gives me
[06:50] <[ben] > Triffid-Hunter, i checked all the wikis ansd did not found a way to configure alsa
[06:51] <anto9us> poet: it's in the multiverse repository
[06:51] <hatred_> brb
[06:51] <miguel_> Could somebody help me? I'm using hoarty
[06:52] <alexandre> anto9us, the GUI netwok tools does not know WPA
[06:52] <alexandre> ?
[06:52] <ironwolf> miguel_: what were you doing when you got the error?
[06:53] <[ben] > Triffid-Hunter,  i have a good soundcard but it works very very bad..
[06:53] <anto9us> alexandre: I've not tried WPA yet, I know I should but I'm just using WEP and MAC address filtering
[06:53] <g14> anto9us: Do you want to see how easy it is to crack wep?
[06:53] <Triffid-Hunter> [ben] : what kernel?
[06:54] <kotatsu> anyone have experience with emachines notebooks and their wireless cards?
[06:54] <g14> anto9us: Go to whoppix.net and click on demos. Then click the one about Web Cracking.
[06:54] <miguel_> ironwoll: nothing, the cd-writer has always given me the same error
[06:54] <ironwolf> I've got a Jumpshot reader, and a CF card.  dmesg sees the card no errors, there's no errors in /var/log/syslog, /proc/scsi/scsi shows the device, but no device node was created.  How do I find the right info to make the device node or mount the CF card?
[06:54] <miguel_> Since the first time i've booted ubuntu, in fact
[06:54] <anto9us> g14, I know, I'm looking at the WPA howto know, alexandre it's at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WPAHowto
[06:55] <anto9us> s/know/now
[06:55] <[ben] > ubuntu 5.04, kernel2.XX?
[06:55] <miguel_> it's a loop-circle error
[06:55] <g14> anto9us: I crack into most wep "protected" networks in under 5 minutes with my pavilion zd7000 laptop
[06:56] <Triffid-Hunter> [ben] : output of uname -r
[06:56] <sarom> damn, mind mapping is so cool
[06:56] <anto9us> g14: one speculates one could make a fortune doing that
[06:56] <miguel_> [ben] , if the question is for me it's the 2.6.10 kernel
[06:56] <ironwolf> miguel_: no clue.  sorry
[06:56] <[ben] > Triffid-Hunter, thx, helped.. 2.6.10-5-386
[06:57] <Triffid-Hunter> 2.6.12 has a whole bunch of alsa fixes
[06:57] <occy> jdub, you around?
[06:57] <miguel_> 2.6.10-5-386
[06:57] <Triffid-Hunter> it'll be ages before you guys see it though :(
[06:57] <g14> anto9us: If you only knew...
[06:57] <occy> seen many cases of Ubuntu locking up lately?
[06:57] <[ben] > Triffid-Hunter, so it is
[06:57] <g14> occy: Nvidia drivers?
[06:57] <occy> g14, I'm using nvidia, yes.
[06:58] <miguel_> I've got a problem with my HP USB Cd-writer, cd4e
[06:58] <occy> g14, suggestion as to what to do to fix if that could be the problem?
[06:58] <miguel_> it always gives me the same error
[06:58] <miguel_> /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0:<3>Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0
[06:58] <XTCboarder> anyone wana give opinion on xfce v/s gnome?
[06:59] <occy> g14, I'm using the ubuntu nvidia drivers.
[06:59] <g14> occy: Hoary Hedgehog has stability issues with the nvidia drivers. I heard it's going to be fixed in Breezy when it comes out, but thats not until october. It is somewhere on the forums
[06:59] <occy> g14, ahhh
[06:59] <occy> suxx0r
[06:59] <occy> :(
[06:59] <occy> hmmm
[07:00] <occy> maybe uninstall the hoary nvidia drivers and install them from nvidia?
[07:00] <miguel_> does anybody know if my usb cd-writer problem can be solved by changing the acpi settings in the kernel?
[07:00] <g14> occy: Thats what I would try
[07:00] <Fator_Dee> X7C: if you have a low performance machine xfce or fluxbox is better than gnome
[07:00] <g14> xfce
[07:00] <occy> g14, k.  Guess it couldn't hurt to try.
[07:00] <g14> With Rox-Filer for the desktop
[07:00] <g14> occy, nope
[07:01] <occy> g14, any howto on that some place?
[07:01] <ironwolf> anyone? usb card reader, not automounting *that's ok* but not creating sda[0-9]  is less than optimum.
[07:01] <X7C> thx
[07:02] <X7C> can i run gdesklets on xfce?
[07:02] <tanek> how do i override refreshrates? i want 100hz instead of 85
[07:02] <g14> occy: Try looking on the ubuntu forums or google
[07:02] <occy> k
[07:02] <Triffid-Hunter> tanek: your x config, be it xf86config or xorg.conf
[07:02] <X7C>  tanek edit your xorg.conf file...
[07:02] <tanek> oki, thx
[07:02] <g14> ironwolf, Is it for sd cards or CF?
[07:03] <X7C> that's right Triffid-Hunter
[07:03] <Triffid-Hunter> :)
[07:03] <ironwolf> g14: CF
[07:04] <Triffid-Hunter> last i checked ubuntu was running xfree still
[07:04] <Triffid-Hunter> :/
[07:04] <X7C> :p
[07:04] <X7C> hoary runs xorg
[07:04] <tanek> and where in the xorg.conf do i change this? :P
[07:04] <g14> ironwolf: Can you manually mount it?
[07:04] <X7C> in monitior section...
[07:04] <X7C> but tanek
[07:05] <X7C> does ur monitor support that?
[07:05] <tanek> yes it does, been running it at 100hz in windows forever
[07:05] <X7C> you can fry it :p....
[07:05] <Licker> what does Omitting directory mean
[07:05] <X7C> ah
[07:05] <ironwolf> g14: therein lies my problem, I can't seem to find that it created any /dev/sd* nodes for it.
[07:05] <X7C> in the monitor section
[07:05] <tanek> yeah, but there is no option for refreshrates?
[07:05] <X7C> what i never remember if it's vertical or horizontal refresh
[07:06] <g14> ironwolf, unplug the card. type sudo tail -f /var/log/messages and then plug it in
[07:06] <Triffid-Hunter> vertical
[07:06] <X7C> then addit
[07:06] <Triffid-Hunter> horizontal is in the tens to hundreds of khz normally
[07:06] <g14> ironwolf, you should see something about a new usb mass storage device detected
[07:06] <tanek> and the syntax is? sry fr beeing annoying
[07:06] <X7C> i just put them fixed
[07:06] <tanek> ?
[07:06] <Triffid-Hunter> tanek: there'll be a vsync entry already, just change it
[07:06] <X7C> let me see.....
[07:07] <metalsand> Can someone help me configure my wireless PCMCIA card?
[07:07] <ironwolf> g14: yep, now what?  It correctly identifies the Lexar CF Card
[07:07] <tanek> Triffid-Hunter: cant find it :S
[07:07] <numb> hi there... i'm having a little problem
[07:07] <numb> is that i can't transfer files from my windowsxp machine to my ubuntu machine
[07:07] <g14> ironwolf: It should say somewhere what device it is like sdx or whatever
[07:07] <X7C> tanek
[07:07] <X7C>  VertRefresh     75
[07:08] <X7C> that's the entry
[07:08] <X7C> i use
[07:08] <tanek> numb: the answer is called samba
[07:08] <X7C> HorizSync i left it automatic
[07:08] <tanek> 	SubSection "Display"
[07:08] <tanek> 		Depth		1
[07:08] <tanek> 		Modes		"1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[07:08] <tanek> 		VertRefresh     75
[07:08] <tanek> like that
[07:08] <tanek> ?
[07:08] <X7C> nope
[07:08] <miguel_> I've got a problem with my HP USB Cd-writer, cd4e
[07:08] <omatunto_> hi, anybody know where I could get a newer version of e2fsck without destroying my package management? I'm running hoary.
[07:08] <X7C> that's on your screen section
[07:08] <miguel_> it always gives me the same error
[07:08] <X7C> into your monitor section
[07:09] <miguel_> /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0:<3>Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 0
[07:09] <X7C> for me is like this         Identifier      "DELL P780"        Option          "DPMS" \n#       HorizSync       80        VertRefresh     75
[07:09] <tanek> Section "Monitor"
[07:09] <tanek> 	Identifier	"F790D"
[07:09] <tanek> 	Option		"DPMS"
[07:09] <tanek> 	VertRefresh     100
[07:09] <tanek> like that?
[07:09] <X7C> yeah
[07:09] <ironwolf> g14: I sent you what I see.
[07:10] <tanek> but that'll give me 100hz even in gdm which is 1600x1200?
[07:10] <tanek> and thats too much for my monitor
[07:10] <apply> Is there a gcc channel?  I'm trying to make my code auto-vectorizable under gcc-4.0 but the documentation is lacking.
[07:11] <nadav> apply: #gcc
[07:11] <M3day> guys i downloaded ubuntu ,, so how to burn its using nero ?
[07:11] <sylvan> Is there a ubuntu/linux newbie channel around here somwhere?
[07:11] <apply> nadav: thanks, I forgot the #
[07:12] <ironwolf> sylvan: your in it. :) welcome.
[07:12] <g14> M3day, Cancel out of the wizard and go to file -> open
[07:12] <X7C> tanek and thats too much for my monitor << then fix the screen size as well
[07:12] <omatunto_> Is there any development repository such as RH rawhide or Mandrake cooker?
[07:12] <M3day> g14 great then
[07:12] <sylvan> thanks! Okay so how do I configure hardware acceleration for my graphics card (ATI Radeon 9800 Pro)
[07:12] <g14> M3day, then you have to hit the dropdown menu and go to show all files and then you can browse to it
[07:12] <tanek> X7C: yeah, im on it. think i saw a thread at the forum some time ago
[07:12] <X7C> my xorg acted very funky but then i fixed the stuff and it worked perfectly
[07:13] <Licker> I have tried the sudo copy folder command but its not working right...
[07:13] <tanek> mine's working nicely, but im picky with my refreshrates
[07:13] <sig> sudo -s
[07:13] <X7C> ie. would opnly work at 800x600 or 1600x1200 and sometimes monitor res was at 1600x1200 thoug i'd see things 800x600
[07:13] <X7C> :p
[07:13] <sig> then do: cp filename newfilename
[07:13] <Licker> ok
[07:13] <sig> or dir/ newdirname/
[07:13] <sig> sudo -s
[07:13] <Licker> i was doing sudo cp -d D-Loads/admin /var/www/cgi-bin/admin
[07:14] <tanek> X7C: wierd :P
[07:14] <sig> cp dirname/ newdirname/
[07:14] <numb> tanek: which packets are need? i have samba-commom and python-samba installed
[07:14] <numb> is anything else needed?
[07:14] <X7C> samba server
[07:14] <X7C> :p
[07:14] <X7C> let me see
[07:15] <tanek> numb: there is a lot on the subjekt on www.ubuntuguide.org u need the packages samba and smbfs, i think
[07:15] <X7C> "samba"
[07:15] <tanek> take a look
[07:15] <X7C> numb
[07:15] <sylvan> Nobody knows anything about getting hardware support for graphics (like an OpenGL app)?
[07:15] <Licker> it just says cp: omitting directory `D-Loads/admin/' and thats all it does
[07:15] <X7C> do apt-get install samba
[07:15] <numb> X7C: installing
[07:16] <X7C> k
[07:16] <tanek> for some reason samba screws up my networking. can use it for a few days, then i get no network connections... if i uninstall / reinstall it it works a few days again
[07:16] <X7C> that's weird
[07:17] <X7C> :( i have a etst tomorrow at 8am :(
[07:17] <tanek> aw
[07:17] <ironwolf> sylvan: what are you trying to do?
[07:17] <tanek> the forums are down?
[07:17] <sylvan> at the moment I'm trying to run 3ddesktop, but it would be nice to have hardware support for OpenGL apps other than that one (like games and stuff)
[07:18] <BWGames> hey... i'm trying to install hoary, but i've got a bad cd and can't really redownload it all - is there any way to use the CD, except get the install to download the neccessaryt packages that aren't available on cd?
[07:18] <tanek> X7C: can i just remove the options in the screen sections that are higher resolution than my monitor can use at 100hz?
[07:18] <g14> BWGames, search the forums for netinstall
[07:18] <tanek> cause that's what i did :P
[07:18] <X7C> yeah
[07:18] <ironwolf> BWGames: I've heard of people doing netinstall, maybe search the forums or the wiki.
[07:18] <BWGames> g14: will that enable me to use the cd as well?
[07:18] <X7C> I only have 1 resolution and one colordepth :p
[07:18] <ironwolf> sylvan: what's your hardware?
[07:19] <sylvan> an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
[07:20] <ironwolf> sylvan: have you search the wiki for the right ati drivers for that?
[07:20] <sylvan> nope... I'm totally new to this... where's this wiki?
[07:21] <ironwolf> sylvan: wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:21] <sylvan> okay I'll try to find drivers...
[07:21] <Licker> Woo Hoo.. well it was sudo cp -a to copy an entire dir. :p
[07:22] <tanek> Licker: the manual knows it all :D
[07:22] <Roger_Martins> Hi, I would like to know as I make to install only the minimum system of ubuntu. Therefore I wanted to only install the packages that I use, using apt.
[07:22] <Licker> :p
[07:22] <Licker> yea well.. the manual needs to better explain itself
[07:22] <Licker> :p
[07:22] <Licker> i used every command and none worked till the bottom one witch was -a
[07:22] <Licker> :p
[07:22] <X7C> Roger_Martins,
[07:23] <sylvan> ironwolf: It says that it's supported and autodetected and whatnot, maybe I need to configure some OpenGL lib to use hardware, or something?
[07:23] <X7C> you should be able to....
[07:23] <Roger_Martins> X7C, ?
[07:23] <X7C> to... to do that :p
[07:24] <X7C> but ou have to manually select which packages yo want for a start
[07:25] <Roger_Martins> Iso that I have here does not have this option to select packages.
[07:27] <Amaranth> Roger_Martins: boot it with the server option
[07:27] <Amaranth> Roger_Martins: It'll install a minimal system (no X or anything)
[07:29] <python> hello
[07:29] <Roger_Martins> Which I would write this in boot?
[07:30] <python> i have an unwanted folder that has appeared in the Gnome applications menu, how can i remove it, does anyone know?
[07:30] <asmodi> Anyone who knows why ndiswrapper gives me: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module format
[07:30] <metalsand> python: rm -rf when in dir
[07:30] <asmodi> Tried to apt-get ndiswrapper and installed it from source, same error
[07:31] <python> where is the directory
[07:31] <metalsand> Oh, applications menu
[07:31] <python> im talking about the Gnome GUI
[07:32] <python> the Application menu has a folder which has appeared i want too remove it
[07:32] <BWGames> does anyone know how to make the ubuntu CD bootable? I've had to take all the files off and replace some of them, but i cant seem to make it boot, anyone
[07:32] <BWGames> ?
[07:32] <python> is there not a config file for Gnome menu
[07:33] <ikaro> mojn
[07:33] <metalsand> BWGames, did you not DL the live CD?
[07:33] <BWGames> i dl'd install CD, its got some bad files, so i;ve replaced them, but trying to make it bootr again
[07:33] <Triffid-Hunter> BWGames: you need the boot loader to be installed properly..
[07:33] <Roger_Martins> Amaranth, How it would be this option in boot?
[07:34] <Licker> what does Chown mean??.....
[07:34] <occy> Is there another video card out there that works well under Ubuntu without proprietary drivers?
[07:34] <Fator_Dee> Licker: change owner
[07:34] <ironwolf> sylvan: what does apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx ; say?
[07:34] <BWGames> Triffid-Hunter: yeah, can i get the boot image off the oriignal cd?
[07:34] <Licker> how do you change owner?
[07:34] <Triffid-Hunter> BWGames: yeah.. what OS you in at the moment?
[07:34] <Fator_Dee> Licker: it's a terminal command, do "man chown" in terminal to het more info
[07:34] <Triffid-Hunter> Licker: with the chown command
[07:34] <Licker> pl
[07:34] <Licker> ok
[07:34] <Fator_Dee> *het = get
[07:35] <BWGames> Triffid-Hunter: XP
[07:35] <Triffid-Hunter> BWGames: google an xp "slipstreaming" guide and skip to the burning cd section
[07:35] <BWGames> i've extracted BootImage.bin from the CD using ISObuster, but its only 2kb? :S
[07:35] <Triffid-Hunter> yeah thats about right
[07:36] <anbam> I can't get my microphone to work! I can hear myself loud and clear but I get an error when I try to record. I have an audigy 2 sound card. The error I get is: ALSA device "default" had an error. Some solutions I found on the web said I had to enable Mic Capture in the mixer, but I don't even have that option.
[07:36] <Triffid-Hunter> you gotta load that into nero someplace and set the image size to 4 blocks
[07:36] <BWGames> Triffid-Hunter: so i use the same as for XP? no emu, etc etc
[07:36] <BWGames> ok thanks :)
[07:36] <BWGames> that'd explain why ;)
[07:36] <Triffid-Hunter> as per xp slipstream guide :)
[07:36] <mmichelli> trying to install puredata, but cant get it going. Anyone have a good "how to" url
[07:37] <drcode> hi all
[07:37] <Triffid-Hunter> yeah if you turn on emulation, the boot loader will think its on a floppy that it can't find in devices and die most amusingly
[07:37] <Triffid-Hunter> mmichelli: google.com ?
[07:37] <drcode> can I tell cygwin to start with full screen?
[07:37] <BWGames> aha thanks, will have a go :)
[07:38] <mmichelli> Triffid-Hunter: found help on google but none of them worked.
[07:38] <Triffid-Hunter> :(
[07:39] <Licker> 7) Chown all the files in the cgi-bin directory to the user executing cgi files that are accessed via the web. <--whats that mean.. give access to my user guy and not only root?
[07:39] <Chipparn> can anyone help me? i got problem with my sount.. playing games, musik, movies the sound is really really low. while other sounds is loud. i got that problem at the same time i installed kde. any ideas?
[07:40] <neiras> Hey everyone, I'm tracking Ubuntu Hoary and I have to try to start rhythmbox 2 or 3 times before it actually launches. The first few times, it segfaults. Is this a known issue?
[07:41] <debiannoob> can anyone help me, getting the most out of xorg.conf regarding resolution and refresh rate pls :)
[07:42] <BWGames> i know this place is a bit(!) biased, but is ubuntu a decent server OS?
[07:43] <Triffid-Hunter> BWGames: its targeted at desktop users, but based on debian which can be a decent server os
[07:43] <Triffid-Hunter> my favourite distro is gentoo all round though
[07:43] <Triffid-Hunter> the *BSDs are considered the most secure server OS', but are trickier to set up for that exact reason
[07:44] <BWGames> Triffid-Hunter: thanks, similar to what i thought. i wanted to use Debian, but their lack of updates put me off, so Ubuntu seemed a decent choice, plus i used it on the desktop, and liked it
[07:45] <anbam> so, can anyone help me out :) ?
[07:45] <metalsand> what's basic software to play .mp3s
[07:45] <Triffid-Hunter> i used debian for a couple of years but got sick of all the things i had to fix myself
[07:45] <Triffid-Hunter> metalsand: xmms
[07:45] <debiannoob> i need resolutions such as 1024x768@100hz / 1600x1024@85hz & 1920x1440@85hz; i used those resolutions while working with Windo$e and i'm struggling getting those working in X; what else can be configured in xorg.conf besides HorizSync and VertRefresh to get this running?
[07:45] <Fator_Dee> metalsand: beep-media-player or xmms or rhythmbox
[07:45] <Myrtti> does anyone have any ideas on how to launch boinc-client automatically with the computer or Gnome? I've tried the "System - Preferences - Sessions", but it seems that it doesnt work with ./boinc
[07:45] <BWGames> i've used RH8 for the past few years, but it got rooted yesterday, so i thought i'd get something on it that was a bit better than a old RH version
[07:45] <neiras> Myrtti: Where is boic-client located on your system?
[07:46] <Myrtti> in .boinc/
[07:46] <Myrtti> at ~/
[07:46] <neiras> Myrtti: in a terminal, type "which boinc-client"
[07:46] <neiras> Myrtti: Paste me the output in a private message
[07:46] <IcemanV9> debiannoob: have u tried 'Xorg -configure' ?
[07:46] <kwame> hi
[07:47] <kwame> the new version of ubuntu what version of gnome has?
[07:47] <debiannoob> IcemanV9: nope - lemme try that asap!
[07:47] <neiras> kwame: 2.10.1
[07:47] <terje> any of viewing wmv files in totum?
[07:47] <Myrtti> neiras: no output whatsoever. I might've said it in a bad way
[07:47] <neiras> terje: Sure, if you install totem-xine and w32codecs
[07:47] <kwame> neiras, do you know of a repository where i can find windowmaker?
[07:47] <neiras> kwame, if it's not in universe, sorry, no
[07:47] <terje> great, thanks.
[07:48] <metalsand> Does XMMS need a plug in to play mp3s?
[07:48] <neiras> terje: You'll need to add the marillat repositories to your apt sources
[07:48] <Myrtti> I've got a ~/.boinc/ in which lies a boinc_4.19_i686-pc-linux-gnu executable
[07:48] <neiras> Myrtti: ok
[07:48] <Triffid-Hunter> metalsand: it comes with some afaik
[07:48] <neiras> Myrtti: running boinc_4.19_i686-pc-linux-gnu works?
[07:48] <Triffid-Hunter> friend of mine installed it and it "Just Worked"
[07:48] <Triffid-Hunter> same for me
[07:48] <metalsand> i tried open with XMMS and XMMS isn't responding
[07:49] <Myrtti> running ./boinc_4.19_i686-pc-linux-gnu when in the .boinc/ works
[07:49] <metalsand> i clicked play and now I can't click antyhing
[07:49] <neiras> Myrtti: OK. Here's what you need to do.
[07:49] <Myrtti> (I have to say to you, I love you guys)
[07:49] <neiras> Myrtti: Open System->Preferences->Sessions
[07:49] <terje> alrighty
[07:49] <BWGames> damn... just tried to replace the files, i get image checksum error now, is there any way to bypass that?
[07:49] <neiras> Myrtti: Then, click the Startup Programs tab
[07:50] <BWGames> (on the cd bootup, ISOLINUX)
[07:50] <terje> Seems like I'd have to replace the backend gstreamer with libxine?
[07:50] <Myrtti> ok
[07:50] <usynic> uh, anyone know how to use the new mplayer plugin?
[07:50] <usynic> there's no play/stop/fullscreen buttons anymore
[07:51] <neiras> Myrtti: Click ADD and in the startup command box, type "/home/myrtti/.boinc/boinc_4.19_i686-pc-linux-gnu
[07:51] <debiannoob> IcemanV9: i tried Xorg -configure // i get the following error msg 'Missing output drivers.  Configuration failed.' - any suggestions?
[07:51] <neiras> Myrtti: Replace "/home/myrtti" with "/home/yourusername"
[07:51] <neiras> Myrtti: If you arent sure what your username is, type 'whoami' in a Terminal
[07:52] <Myrtti> neiras: the thing is, I do and did have that there. But it doesn't launch it. It has, but doesn't anymore
[07:52] <Triffid-Hunter> neiras: "Click ADD and in the startup command box, type "/home/`whoami`/.boinc/boinc_4.19_i686-pc-linux-gnu" ;)
[07:52] <neiras> Myrtti: The difference is the /home/myrtti bit.
[07:53] <Triffid-Hunter> or wouldn't that work?
[07:53] <neiras> Triffid-Hunter: That doesn't work in the Startup Programs box
[07:54] <Triffid-Hunter> hrm oh well
[07:54] <Myrtti> let's see then
[07:54] <IcemanV9> debiannoob: hmm. didn't seen this error before. let me see ..
[07:55] <neiras> Myrtti, little differences can be the difference between working and non working. You were in the right place, but you were using relative paths instead of absolute paths
[07:55] <Nub_-> gente, eu sei que  uma pergunta idiota pra vcs mas, eu peguei o xmms e nao to conseguindo executa-lo, como fao isso?
[07:55] <regeya> triffid hunter, eh?
[07:55] <Nub_-> tipo, tem que configurar algo antes?
[07:55] <regeya> kinda hard to hunt triffids when you're blind
[07:55] <metalsand> how do I create a new file in terminal
[07:56] <neiras> metalsand: "touch filename"
[07:56] <Licker> Ok.. How would would I give web access to my cgi-bin?
[07:56] <Triffid-Hunter> or just save from an editor, or redirect output to one that doesn't exist or whatever
[07:56] <neiras> metalsand: If you want to _edit_ the file, "nano filename"
[07:57] <IcemanV9> debiannoob: did u run the command while u're in X?
[07:57] <debiannoob> IcemanV9: yeah
[07:57] <IcemanV9> debiannoob: if so, then kill X server .. and try it again w/o X running
[07:58] <debiannoob> IcemanV9: k - i'll report back :)
[08:00] <Myrtti> dammit, he left
[08:00] <Licker> Ok.. How would would I give web access to my cgi-bin?<--- im trying to open moduale.cgi in a web browser..
[08:00] <zoddan> Hi
[08:02] <_ac_chan_> hello
[08:02] <loz> hello
[08:02] <ivoks> hi
[08:03] <Licker> Ok.. How would would I give web access to my cgi-bin?<--- im trying to open moduale.cgi in a web browser..
[08:03] <ivoks> Licker u need web server :)
[08:05] <burnchar> I just setup a system for my boss with an nForce-4 mobo (MSI K8N Neo4 Non-SLI) and sound doesn't work! I would appreciate any help. It appears to be a Realtek ALC850 chipset.
[08:06] <burnchar> Hmm. Is anybody here?
[08:06] <Licker> ivoks: www.gamertime.net I have a server. lolz
[08:07] <chrisg666> yup! just booted the live ubuntu
[08:07] <chrisg666> looks intresting
[08:08] <IcemanV9> chrisg666: even better when u install it :)
[08:08] <burnchar> Does anyone know how to get sound working on an MSI Neo4 motherboard (nforce-4/Realtek ALC850 sound chip)?
[08:09] <chrisg666> not familiar with gnome yet but I like the simpler interface so far...
[08:11] <stuNNed> ivoks: hi
[08:12] <hoary> hi all
[08:12] <ivoks> stuNNed
[08:12] <InitMass> a spoke with a person who proclaimed that ubuntu slowly is going incompatible with debian
[08:12] <ivoks> InitMass Ian? :)
[08:12] <stuNNed> hi hoary
[08:12] <hoary> hello
[08:12] <InitMass> ivoks, no not him
[08:12] <ivoks> InitMass then who? and what did he/she said?
[08:13] <hoary> whats the topic
[08:13] <dabaSlon> burnchar: what program does the sound not work in?
[08:13] <InitMass> ivoks, i spoke with a guy who said he had read several news about this thing the latest weeks
[08:13] <dabaSlon> burnchar: just globally?
[08:13] <kickrocks> I got the live cd for emt64/amd64 but when I get to the language selection screen keyboard does nothing.  Yes it is connected, via PS2.  Any ideas?
[08:13] <ivoks> InitMass ah...
[08:13] <FlyingSquirrel32> WebEx requires Netscape 4.78 or 4.79 I've been told Mozilla is based on Netscape, will it cut it?
[08:14] <ivoks> InitMass thoose are crap
[08:14] <kbrooks> FlyingSquirrel32: yes
[08:14] <ivoks> InitMass yes, ubuntu isn't full compatibile with sarge
[08:14] <ivoks> InitMass but is sid fully compatibile with that same sarge?
[08:14] <ivoks> nope...
[08:14] <tritium> InitMass, ubuntu contributes its work back for Debian to use
[08:14] <ivoks> so... go figure :)
[08:15] <FlyingSquirrel32> cool, I'll have to figure out what it is I'm missing..
[08:15] <ivoks> tritium and that should allways do
[08:15] <InitMass> remember i didn't proclaim that. i just asked ;)
[08:15] <tritium> ivoks, insightful comparison with sid
[08:15] <ivoks> InitMass we tell u the real thing :)
[08:15] <InitMass> :)
[08:16] <dabaSlon> burnchar: alsamixer is a good command to play around with sound, just to check it is not muted...and m mutes/unmutes, so try tweaking that...if yioure still reading...
[08:16] <ivoks> InitMass i love debian more than my brother
[08:16] <ivoks> i wouldn't use ubuntu if i feel like thurning back to debian
[08:16] <FlyingSquirrel32> kbroks, it also requires  Red Hat Linux 6.x - 7.2 or compatible versions of the kernel and XFree86
[08:16] <ivoks> debian brings me only money, while my brother don't :)
[08:17] <dabaSlon> ivoks, wow.
[08:17] <InitMass> ivoks, how do you own money with debian?
[08:17] <ivoks> InitMass i deploy it on servers and clusters
[08:17] <Greyhawk_Dragon> Hey.
[08:17] <ivoks> something i will start with ubuntu too
[08:17] <hoary> I have trouble with midi. Kmid opens but makes no sound. I have tried to install some packages.. still not working. Is there an easy way to get midi to work?
[08:17] <BWGames> hi, how do i install ubunt off the internet, by using a CD to boot the installer, not PXE/etherboot?
[08:18] <anto9us> has anyone succesfully installed postgresql 8 on ubuntu?
[08:18] <Greyhawk_Dragon> How do I make a package marked i386 accept installation on an x86_64 system?
[08:18] <ivoks> BWGames that was possible on old woody style instalation (never used on ubuntu). i don't know, i think u can't with new installation system
[08:19] <ivoks> BWGames start expert mode and look
[08:19] <InitMass> ivoks, do you consider ubuntu as stable as debian when using it on a server?
[08:19] <ivoks> InitMass stable... funny word
[08:19] <ivoks> InitMass all distros are stable
[08:20] <ivoks> InitMass u don't use gnome, x, kde and stuff that breaks
[08:20] <BWGames> ivoks: thanks
[08:20] <Licker> the thing SYTILL wont work... can anyone figure out why? http://www.gamertime.net
[08:20] <InitMass> ivoks, i'm using fluxbox :)
[08:20] <Licker> Module.cgi
[08:20] <ivoks> InitMass problem with debian is that it has great packages, but old
[08:20] <ivoks> InitMass same shit like gnome
[08:20] <FlyingSquirrel32> kbrooks, it also requires  Red Hat Linux 6.x - 7.2 or compatible versions of the kernel and XFree86
[08:21] <ivoks> InitMass i was in that period too, "gnome sucks" "gnome this" "gnome that" "omg kde"... i used fluxbox too
[08:21] <ivoks> InitMass but in the end, what do i need myu laptop for?
[08:21] <InitMass> ivoks, i don't know
[08:21] <ivoks> InitMass i need it to work on it
[08:21] <ivoks> InitMass i don't have time searching for files in console
[08:21] <InitMass> ivoks, then make an alias
[08:21] <ivoks> i need plesent GUI that I can use
[08:22] <ivoks> InitMass ah... how old are u? :)
[08:22] <ivoks> u see... RAM is cheep
[08:22] <kbrooks> LOL
[08:22] <ivoks> it's not like old days
[08:22] <ivoks> u can buy 1GB and use 5 gnomes in the same time
[08:22] <FlyingSquirrel32> ivoks, what was the final verdict? What do you use now?
[08:22] <ivoks> FlyingSquirrel32 gnome
[08:22] <dabaSlon> well, you can make a nother wm look exactly like gnome, ivoks...
[08:22] <ivoks> but that's only on my lap
[08:22] <dabaSlon> even kde...
[08:23] <ivoks> on server it's zsh
[08:23] <admx> What is the price for a Gig of Ram these days?
[08:23] <InitMass> ivoks, you mean that you can't use fluxbox because it doesn't have a filesearch integrated?
[08:23] <dabaSlon> on what system?
[08:23] <ivoks> dabaSlon I don't have time making some other WMs look like Gnome
[08:23] <dabaSlon> ok, so that is what you mean, its nice out the box...
[08:23] <ivoks> dabaSlon i don't think gnome is the best... but it's very good on ubuntu
[08:23] <Greyhawk_Dragon> Never mind. Solved it myself.
[08:23] <dabaSlon> yes, I find taht with Ubuntu totally,
[08:24] <ivoks> InitMass look...
[08:24] <ivoks> InitMass fluxbox is THE worst *box
[08:24] <joe|code> I love Gnome. I always used KDE but then I tried Gnome with Ubuntu and I was hooked.
[08:24] <ivoks> InitMass if u check ur RAM, u will see it takes more RAM than KDE3.4
[08:24] <dabaSlon> no, I agree...
[08:24] <ivoks> InitMass try blackbox
[08:25] <ivoks> InitMass get speed
[08:25] <joe|code> xfce4 is shweet also.
[08:25] <Licker> the thing SYTILL wont work... can anyone figure out why? http://www.gamertime.net
[08:25] <InitMass> ivoks, i can't compare with kde because i don't have it installed but if i compare it with gnome, fluxbox uses less ram
[08:25] <ivoks> InitMass true
[08:25] <ivoks> InitMass gnome is bloated
[08:25] <dabaSlon> it is all good, relly, depends on your needs.
[08:26] <admx> ivoks, InitMass is right
[08:26] <ivoks> InitMass but i have RAM for that bload
[08:26] <ivoks> bloat
[08:26] <ivoks> and i don't care
[08:26] <ivoks> i need RAM and CPU on my cluster
[08:26] <ivoks> not laptop
[08:26] <ivoks> admx is right in what? nobody here is right or wrong
[08:27] <ivoks> admx everybody uses stuff they like/need/lov
[08:27] <ivoks> love
[08:27] <ivoks> for example...
[08:27] <admx> fluxbox vs KDE or Gnome in ram usage
[08:27] <mirak> why there is no /dev/fb0 device ?
[08:27] <ivoks> i move my laptop beetween 5-6 different network enviorments
[08:27] <admx> true
[08:27] <Triffid-Hunter> kde is a ram hog
[08:27] <ivoks> net-applet in gnome is great
[08:27] <InitMass> i don't like the menu in xfce otherwise it's good too
[08:27] <Triffid-Hunter> but i use it anyway cos i got the ram to run it nicely
[08:27] <joe|code> if I remove the CD repository will Ubuntu seek out alternative sources?
[08:28] <ivoks> admx belive me, KDE 3.4 uses 70MB RAM
[08:28] <tritium> mirak, there is
[08:28] <mirak> why I don't have a /dev/fb0 device ?
[08:28] <ivoks> admx even less
[08:28] <mirak> I don't have it
[08:28] <ivoks> admx if u take out apache and myslql
[08:28] <ivoks> and X
[08:28] <ivoks> fluxbox takes more
[08:28] <ivoks> gnome even more
[08:28] <ivoks> and don't get me start on that e16
[08:28] <ivoks> so small and so hungry :)
[08:29] <ivoks> i used them all
[08:29] <dabaSlon> joe|code: just add the alternative sources yourself...
[08:29] <joe|code> Thats so weird, you would think that KDE would be the ram hog being as it is so heavy on the eyecandy.
[08:29] <admx> net-applet is okay for me but would rather have network manager.
[08:29] <mirak> tritium: what is the module for fb ?
[08:29] <ivoks> wmaker is best easyWM
[08:29] <tritium> mirak, framebuffer
[08:29] <joe|code> dabaSlon, ok thank you
[08:29] <dabaSlon> welcome, you know how you are gonna go about it?
[08:30] <ivoks> admx network-config?
[08:30] <admx> fluxbox, when I tried it did not use much ram on my system.
[08:30] <root1_> hello
[08:30] <ivoks> gentoo has great scripts for managing network interfaces
[08:30] <mirak> tritium: what device should it create ?
[08:30] <admx> NetworkManager, it is what is used on Fedora
[08:30] <tritium> /dev/fb0
[08:30] <dabaSlon> yo root!
[08:31] <ivoks> admx ah, fedora was couple of hours on my lap
[08:31] <lotusleaf> Without access to broadband, I'm curious: Should I begin a download of ubuntu iso at 56k?
[08:31] <ivoks> when u get hooked to debian, nothing can replace it
[08:31] <ivoks> lotusleaf lol, no
[08:31] <lotusleaf> ivoks: why not
[08:31] <Triffid-Hunter> sif ivoks
[08:31] <Triffid-Hunter> i threw debian out in favour of gentoo
[08:31] <mirak> how to get a /dev/fb0 device file ?
[08:31] <ivoks> hehe
[08:31] <Triffid-Hunter> never looked back
[08:31] <tritium> mirak, oh, I didn't see that your previous question was about the module.  fbcon and vesfb
[08:32] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter i used gentoo for a long time
[08:32] <root1_> guys is there any msn messenger for ubuntu ?
[08:32] <wm_eddie> lotusleaf: When I was a kid, downloading linux ISOs over 56k was something I did a lot.
[08:32] <admx> I tried Suse, and Fedora, however Ubuntu is now on my systems
[08:32] <wm_eddie> root1_: gaim
[08:32] <wm_eddie> root1_: or amsn
[08:32] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter my heart was crying when i started ubuntu installation
[08:32] <Triffid-Hunter> root1_: kopete, gaim...
[08:32] <dabaSlon> yeah, you ahve to add your account.
[08:32] <ivoks> lotusleaf it won't download in ur lifetime
[08:32] <dabaSlon> are you using gaim now?
[08:32] <root1_> ok i'm newbie in linux how i install it ?
[08:32] <lotusleaf> ivoks: lol
[08:32] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter but ubuntu is great
[08:32] <wm_eddie> root1_: it should be installed.
[08:32] <tritium> mirak, vesafb is the vesa framebuffer, fbcon is the framebuffer console
[08:32] <dabaSlon> root1_: are you using gaim now?
[08:32] <admx> Much better enduser experince for me
[08:33] <root1_> nope i downloaded amsn
[08:33] <Triffid-Hunter> ivoks: a friend of mine has it.. seems alrite.. have had to fix umpteen things in it though
[08:33] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter up-to-date packages as gentoo, but power of apt-get
[08:33] <dabaSlon> you can go applications, internet, gaim
[08:33] <lotusleaf> With ubuntu do newer versions require a complete, fresh, reinstall or is it easy to upgrade to the next version like Debian?
[08:33] <wm_eddie> root1_: Try exploring the Applications Menu a bit.
[08:33] <Triffid-Hunter> apt-get has nothin that emerge doesn't...
[08:33] <mirak> tritium: I try to use xawtv but it doesn't work
[08:33] <dabaSlon> then in the buddy list, you can hit ctrl+a which brings up accounts.
[08:33] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter lol
[08:33] <Triffid-Hunter> and nowhere near as up to date as gentoo
[08:33] <dabaSlon> root1_: then you go add button, and add the accounts.
[08:33] <root1_> got it
[08:33] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter gentoo takes too much time
[08:33] <Triffid-Hunter> they still havent got the 2.6.11 kernel in apt afaik
[08:33] <dabaSlon> it can have msn, yahoo, and a lot otf others.
[08:33] <Triffid-Hunter> sif ivoks
[08:34] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter and gives back on a few archs
[08:34] <admx> My co-workers have also switched to Ubuntu for the same reasons as mine.
[08:34] <lotusleaf> Triffid-Hunter: I tried Gentoo but I found I was spending more time with my invisible friends than real ones
[08:34] <g14> <Gentoo flame> I LOVE spending 3 days compiling a desktop I can have in <1 hour with Ubuntu with 2-3% more performance</Gentoo flame>
[08:34] <ivoks> g14 that's good point
[08:34] <ivoks> that's true
[08:34] <ivoks> I need desktop
[08:34] <tritium> mirak, that would need a v4l device, not the framebuffer
[08:34] <ivoks> noting else..
[08:35] <dabaSlon> lotusleaf: I dont see how that is a gentoo issue....
[08:35] <root1_> another question guys i got another hd connected to my pc ,, and i want to run it so how i can do that ?
[08:35] <dabaSlon> you did too much of that lotus leaf it seems.
[08:35] <Triffid-Hunter> g14: somethin you only gotta do once, and with ccache and distcc it only takes like 8 hours
[08:35] <lotusleaf> dabaSlon: so I left my gentoo install for my next of kin ;P
[08:35] <mirak> tritium: I have a usb capture card
[08:35] <dabaSlon> root1_: does it have an OS installed on it?
[08:35] <mirak> tritium: I don't understand the error
[08:35] <wm_eddie> root1_: is it in System>Computer?
[08:35] <admx> It was funny to see the lastest Eweek mag say that Ubuntu is a Disto to keep a eye on....
[08:36] <BWGames> admx: why?
[08:36] <dabaSlon> yes, go...
[08:36] <lotusleaf> Triffid-Hunter: if you left Debian and never looked back, what are you doing in a debian based distro channel? Did you find Marty's time machine?
[08:36] <root1_> no OS
[08:36] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter http://funroll-loops.org
[08:36] <dabaSlon> ok, well, you need to mount it...
[08:36] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter u don't have to do once
[08:36] <dabaSlon> root1_: is it formatted
[08:36] <root1_> and not its not in the System>Computer
[08:36] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter i did it every week
[08:36] <root1_> yea
[08:36] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter i was on ~x86
[08:36] <admx> Because that is what I was telling my friends
[08:36] <dabaSlon> which FS?
[08:36] <root1_> its full of mp3s
[08:36] <Triffid-Hunter> lol lotusleaf a lot of the stuff asked here applies to linux generally rather than ubuntu specifically
[08:36] <dabaSlon> it was used in windows earlier?
[08:36] <root1_> yup
[08:36] <lotusleaf> Triffid-Hunter: cleverly crafted ;)
[08:36] <nojhan> hi
[08:36] <dabaSlon> then it is likely NTFS...
[08:37] <dabaSlon> try this for me...
[08:37] <Triffid-Hunter> ivoks: i'm on ~x86.. update once a week takes like 45 mins
[08:37] <ivoks> Gentoo users. Like the annoying teenager next door with a 90hp import sporting a 6 foot tall bolt-on wing
[08:37] <Triffid-Hunter> yeah i've read the site
[08:37] <Triffid-Hunter> its pretty funny
[08:37] <root1_> its FAT32
[08:37] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter well... i don't sit in front of the computer whole day
[08:37] <Triffid-Hunter> neither
[08:37] <ivoks> i don't have time for compiling
[08:38] <ivoks> I do love some stuff on Gentoo
[08:38] <ivoks> but price is too big
[08:38] <lotusleaf> I put my Gentoo CD in a drawer with a Lindows CD. I hope they mate.
[08:38] <Myrtti> dammit
[08:38] <dabaSlon> root1_: sweet, it is mounted as the second hard drive right?
[08:38] <ivoks> gentoo is good distro, but for special type of people :)
[08:38] <lotusleaf> ivoks: who wear helmets? :)
[08:39] <root1_> dabaSlon yes
[08:39] <ivoks> :)
[08:39] <dabaSlon> root1_: is it partitioned?
[08:39] <darkaudit> lotusleaf: you get a super-tuned distro that you have to pay $10/month to finish the compile
[08:39] <g14> Triffid-Hunter, only 8 hours... I rest my case
[08:39] <root1_> dabaSlon no
[08:39] <ivoks> i'm in linux since '97.
[08:39] <Triffid-Hunter> hehe when i used debian, so much stuff broke that i ended up with a system with 2/3 of its software compiled by hand
[08:39] <dabaSlon> ok, create a folder with sudo...
[08:39] <wm_eddie> All distros have their pluses and minuses.  Gentoo's portage has it's good things especially in the hands of people who know what they are doing.
[08:39] <Triffid-Hunter> which was gentoo methodology but far messier
[08:39] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter yes, on sid... anoying, isn't it?
[08:39] <dabaSlon> for example, /mnt/windows
[08:39] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter that's why ubuntu is great
[08:39] <dabaSlon> or /mnt/fat
[08:39] <wm_eddie> /media/
[08:39] <dabaSlon> or /mnt/mp3
[08:40] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter u get something like debian, but up-to-date
[08:40] <dabaSlon> something, sure, media
[08:40] <ivoks> Triffid-Hunter and there are great tools from MOTU and main D
[08:40] <ivoks> this distro has spirit
[08:40] <dabaSlon> so, sudo mkdir /media/mp3
[08:40] <dabaSlon> or something, you can change it later.
[08:40] <lotusleaf> Ok, I'm gonna start a 56k download of ubuntu. If it finishes before the CDs arrive via shipit, do I win a prize?
[08:40] <Triffid-Hunter> lol lotusleaf
[08:41] <ivoks> lotusleaf man... calculate... 5kb/s
[08:41] <Triffid-Hunter> should only take 3 days or so
[08:41] <Triffid-Hunter> ?
[08:41] <dabaSlon> root1_: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/mp3/ -t vfat -o umask=000
[08:41] <stuNNed> lotusleaf: yeah, calculate :P
[08:41] <lotusleaf> ivoks: yeah I know it's a pita but I'm growing weary of using SUSE
[08:41] <ivoks> lotusleaf u don't have uni somewhere?
[08:41] <dabaSlon> after you are done that, it may work that way.
[08:41] <lotusleaf> ivoks: nope
[08:41] <ivoks> suse?!
[08:41] <ivoks> omg...
[08:41] <stuNNed> lol
[08:41] <Triffid-Hunter> 5k/sec * 86400 sec/day = 432000k/day ...
[08:41] <stuNNed> @ ivoks
[08:41] <ivoks> suse and mandriva are dying pigs
[08:41] <lotusleaf> lol
[08:42] <lotusleaf> but novell sent me 9.1 for free on DVD
[08:42] <dabaSlon> ivoks arent you opinionated....
[08:42] <dabaSlon> :)
[08:42] <ivoks> :))
[08:42] <dabaSlon> you totally represent, man...
[08:42] <ivoks> well
[08:42] <lotusleaf> I'd rather drink my own urine than use a distro by the name of mandriva
[08:42] <ivoks> i have this problem that admin in my company loved SuSE
[08:42] <ivoks> and i camed after him
[08:43] <ivoks> man, that disto sucks :)
[08:43] <bodaciousb> is there suck a program that will give more system resources to specific programs? right now im listning to music, downloading kubuntu, and installing cvscedega, and quake3:Arena runs like crap
[08:43] <dabaSlon> it is just a distro, a starting point...
[08:43] <captevil-two> How do I add a SMB share with a space in the filename to /etc/fstab?
[08:43] <ivoks> bodaciousb nice, renice
[08:43] <bodaciousb> ivoks, ?
[08:43] <dabaSlon> root1_: how is that going?
[08:43] <ivoks> captevil-two ?
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> captevil-two,  i tried to do that once.. and never did figure it out. :P i ended up changeing the share name on the silly windows box.
[08:44] <ivoks> bodaciousb renice -p `pidof arena` -10
[08:44] <numb> can someone help in how to configure samba
[08:44] <captevil-two> Dr_Willis: I may just do that, then.
[08:44] <bodaciousb> ivoks, will do, thanks
[08:45] <ivoks> bodaciousb check arena's programname (ps ax | grep arena)
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/      <-- Free Online book on samba.
[08:45] <dabaSlon> root1_: do you have any other users that you added when you installed Ubuntu?
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> of course thers many frontend/gui tools to configure your samba stuff.
[08:45] <root1_> dabaSlon, root
[08:45] <ivoks> Dr_Willis that's not related to samba
[08:45] <bodaciousb> ivoks, arena has to be running right?
[08:45] <ivoks> Dr_Willis that's related to fstab
[08:45] <junior_> having a problem with ndiswrapper. i have it installed but when i bring up the wlan0 card it wont get an address via dhcp
[08:45] <dabaSlon> well, root...is that the username you chose while installing?
[08:45] <ivoks> bodaciousb yes... if it isn't then u have nice command
[08:46] <admx> Can Ext3 be converted to Reiserfs
[08:46] <junior_> DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67 interval 4
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> ivoks,  yea - i recall that i could mount the name/space from the command.. but never could in fstab.
[08:46] <junior_> No DHCPOFFERS received.
[08:46] <junior_> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[08:46] <rocks> hi all, can anyone help me mounting a LVM partition please?
[08:46] <root1_> dabaSlon i think i added 2 use , root and root1
[08:46] <bodaciousb> ivoks, ok
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> ivoks,  you saying its how the fstab is getting parsed then?
[08:46] <ivoks> Dr_Willis and other guy:
[08:46] <dabaSlon> root1_: you are weird...why are you naming your users that?
[08:46] <dabaSlon> anyhow..
[08:47] <BWGames> is gentoo well maintained WRT security updates?
[08:47] <dabaSlon> not sure, go into your users and groups in System, administration.
[08:47] <ivoks> If the  name  of  the  mount point contains spaces these can be escaped as '\040'
[08:47] <dabaSlon> actually, it may not let you addit.
[08:47] <dabaSlon> Or open, cause you are not sudo...
[08:47] <dabaSlon> sign in with the other user and try that...
[08:47] <wm_eddie> ivoks: doesn't '\ ' work?
[08:47] <ivoks> all u need is man 5 fstab and search for spaces
[08:47] <ivoks> wm_eddie this is from man, i didn't try
[08:47] <ivoks> wm_eddie but that sould work
[08:47] <Triffid-Hunter> BWGames: yeah they come in fairly regularly
[08:48] <BWGames> whats the best one for security updates?
[08:48] <Triffid-Hunter> *bsd
[08:48] <Triffid-Hunter> :P
[08:48] <ivoks> BWGames gentoo doesn't have security updates
[08:48] <jordanau> is there a script to automatically mount windows partitions? If not, I wouldnt mind trying my hand at writing one
[08:48] <ivoks> BWGames it works like sarge and sid
[08:48] <dabaSlon> backup _your_data_Linux is best, I think....
[08:49] <ivoks> BWGames if there is a bug, they put in a new upstream version
[08:49] <BWGames> I like BSD, but its just a bit different to linux, and i know linux
[08:49] <BWGames> hmm
[08:49] <ivoks> they don't have security team
[08:49] <Nalioth> jordanau, its easy its called "man fstab"
[08:49] <dabaSlon> there is a command, jordan.
[08:49] <ivoks> and that's one big - for gentoo
[08:49] <BWGames> interesting...
[08:49] <jordanau> Nalioth, no i misspoke, i want the script to edit fstab
[08:49] <ivoks> often new versions break old's one configuration
[08:49] <BWGames> hmm
[08:49] <BWGames> not gentoo then
[08:49] <root1_> dabaSlon, Child terminated with 1 status
[08:49] <ivoks> ubuntu/debian distros fix hols on installed versions
[08:50] <Nalioth> jordanau, ok, try gedit, nedit, nano, pico, kedit, etc
[08:50] <dabaSlon> root1_: when you do what?
[08:50] <BWGames> So I should go for Ubuntu/Debian?
[08:50] <ivoks> they backport patches - big big big + for them
[08:50] <dabaSlon> you will not be able to mount until you have sudo access.
[08:50] <ivoks> BWGames that's up to you
[08:50] <jordanau> Nalioth, i am also don't see how man fstab will automatically mount a windows partition, would you mind explaining that to me?
[08:50] <root1_> dabaSlon, while i'm trying to login to users and groups
[08:50] <Nalioth> BWGames, ubuntu imho, is the most useful out-of-the-box distro i've seen
[08:50] <dabaSlon> yes, Ubuntu, BWGames
[08:50] <ivoks> Nalioth i agree
[08:50] <dabaSlon> right, yeahm, you do not have root access,
[08:50] <dabaSlon> log out, and log in with the administrator user.
[08:51] <root1_> ok
[08:51] <Triffid-Hunter> emerge doesn't touch your existing configs but gives you warnings when things change.. so many times debian broke configs on me :(
[08:51] <Nalioth> jordanau, if you read the man pages on fstab, it will explain how to modify your fstab to mount just about anything your puter can see
[08:51] <ivoks> well... u can do that on every distro
[08:51] <ivoks> well...
[08:51] <jordanau> Nalioth, i was being a smartass sorry i should have been more clear again
[08:51] <BWGames> yeah, i like Ubuntu, i tend to use it as a desktop distro, but i want a server distro... i'll probs go for ubuntu, just cause its so easy, and the big community..... now if only i could find a netinstall CD
[08:51] <transgress> umm how would you suggest he does that in a distro that locks root...
[08:51] <ivoks> time for shower and chicks in bars :)
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:51] <bodaciousb> ivoks, ok grep found the program it came up with quake3 and quake3.x86, how do i modify the renice command? when i try it says old priority 0, new priority 0 and then says process not found
[08:52] <ivoks> bodaciousb renice -p `pidof quake3.x86` -10
[08:52] <ivoks> bodaciousb renice -p `pidof quake3` -10
[08:52] <Nalioth> jordanau, ivoks i am sorry i am not puter literate enough to spout out command like some of these others, but i can send you where you can learn
[08:52] <bodaciousb> ivoks, ok
[08:53] <ivoks> Nalioth ?
[08:53] <dabaSlon> puter literate
[08:53] <dabaSlon> :)
[08:53] <bodaciousb> ivoks, -10 is a bad value
[08:53] <dabaSlon> kaze, oce putera...
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> that sounds 'dirty'
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> :P
[08:53] <Nalioth> jordanau, if you like, i can send you my fstab as a study aid (won't do you any good as its for PPC, but a fstab is a fstab)
[08:53] <ivoks> ma da?
[08:53] <ivoks> bodaciousb ? lol