[07:11] <Razor-X> thezombiehunter: as I said earlier, I don't think the licenses of the majority of Ubuntu packages would allow you to charge
[07:11] <thezombiehunter> if u want somthing like windows go suse..but im telling u know it will be crap
[07:11] <Luna-Tick> tgnb: Anything that requires the command line is a shortcoming of Ubuntu
[07:11] <thezombiehunter> Razor: lol no kiddin
[07:11] <tgnb> Luna-Tick, ok fair enough :) i still need help with that though.. even on a command line. Razor-X ... can i use apt-get to install the latest drivers or do i have to manually install them
[07:12] <Razor-X> tgnb: apt-get, i'm pretty sure
[07:12] <biscuit__> Linuxant Drivers.. they make you pay....
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> requires a command line.. :P hmm isent the next verion of windows supposed to  have a improved commandline/shell in it?
[07:12] <umboto> im trying to install java via the way the unoffical doc says to but i get E: couldn't find package sun-jre1.5
[07:12] <Razor-X> biscuit__: then their drivers are licensed with pay in mind
[07:12] <umboto> just to note, i did add the extra repos
[07:12] <tgnb> i did apt-get but it installed version 8.0 something
[07:12] <Razor-X> "tell umboto about java
[07:12] <oceandead> yeah, mosad? i think...somethin like that
[07:12] <Razor-X> !tell umboto about java
[07:12] <umboto> thanks you Razor-X
[07:12] <Razor-X> tgnb: I heard the ATI drivers were pretty mediocre
[07:12] <oceandead> but i dont think it will be ready for new release...will be added as update later?
[07:13] <Razor-X> nVidia drivers, on the other hand, are pretty nice :)
[07:13] <Luna-Tick> Dr: Difference between needing a command line and one being useful :). I use a good command line for good scripting etc, but I don't expect to have to set up hardware with the command line.
[07:13] <setite> how can i make f render smaller
[07:13] <oceandead> and backported to xp ....its still gonna suck though
[07:13] <tgnb> Razor-X, yeah but unfortunately this laptop has ati chip in it
[07:13] <co-fanky> hayy
[07:13] <rob^> ubotu, tell tgnb about ati
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> Luna-Tick,  heh you dont want to get me started on some of the odd-ball-back-flips ive had to do on windows for hardware  :P
[07:13] <Razor-X> tgnb: hey, I have a 32 MB TNT 2 RIVA PRO 64 chip
[07:14] <Luna-Tick> Fair enough
[07:14] <cyphase> Quick Poll: Do you think Ubuntu is user-friendly enough for your grandparents?
[07:14] <cyphase> :)
[07:14] <Razor-X> pretty bad stuff, with a crappy default gamma
[07:14] <setite> how can i make FF render smaller
[07:14] <Razor-X> cyphase: before my modifications, I think so
[07:14] <Razor-X> setite: #firefox :)
[07:14] <Razor-X> or #mozilla
[07:14] <Razor-X> whatever
[07:14] <setite> cyphase: no
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Luna-Tick,  lets say I had a HP printer print a test page and that would power the machine off. :P I used a hammer on the printer.
[07:14] <tgnb> rob^, i have read that ... and when i originally asked about this question i have even referenced that :)
[07:14] <tgnb> rob^, however it doesnt answer my question :)
[07:14] <rob^> tgnb, that how the rest of us do it
[07:14] <Orborde> Razor-X, No cigar.
[07:15] <cyphase> Quick Poll: Do you think Breezy will be user-friendly enough for your grandparents?
[07:15] <cyphase> lol
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> amazing how good it feels to take a hammer to a problematic peice of hardware.
[07:15] <cyphase> Dr_Willis, very
[07:15] <Razor-X> Orborde: do you have a backup of your old menu.lst?
[07:15] <volvoguy> Dr_Willis, or a .22 rifle. ;)
[07:15] <tgnb> rob^, the drivers this installs are too old and wont work with this chip.. i need newer versions which are available but my question is can i use apt-get to install them or do i need to manually do it
[07:15] <rob^> tgnb, manually
[07:15] <c0rrupt_> Razor-X, i just uninstalled nessusd and re-installed it
[07:15] <oceandead> you got "office space" on the printer huh
[07:15] <c0rrupt_> nmap is there now
[07:16] <Luna-Tick> Again doctor - you miss my point. When a distro wants to be user-friendly and appeal to people for whom linux is too difficult, anything like these examples which you give should be something on a very long to do list
[07:16] <c0rrupt_> will i still be registered though?
[07:16] <c0rrupt_> for plugins
[07:16] <setite> anyoen in here know? those are dead channels
[07:16] <co-fanky>
[07:16] <jbull> setite:  what do you want to know exactly?
[07:16] <esc_ape> hello - I am thinking of trying linux again...but I have a question or two.
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> Luna-Tick,  of course any things that you think linux should do... windows often fails to do .. i feel the whole idea of 'dumbing down' pc's to idiot user levels.. is doomed to fail.
[07:16] <tgnb> rob^, if i install them manually is there anything i need to watch out for or should the ati installer take care of it just fine? do i need to uninstall the ones i installed with apt-get first?
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> Luna-Tick,  of course Ive always though that PALM should make a desktop palm-pilot. :P
[07:16] <volvoguy> esc_ape, ask away. :)
[07:17] <co-fanky> hayy
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> but then people would get mad they couldent install spyware.
[07:17] <oceandead> thing is, there has to be a happy medium
[07:17] <rob^> tgnb, it should be ok, just don't forget to edit your xorg.conf to reflect the new drivers
[07:17] <esc_ape> are there any applications that can copy dvds like in windows (dvdshrink, etc)?
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> Spyware! thats what i had to look up for a friend.. ;P off to do some googling.
[07:17] <setite> jbull: why linux FF renders so oddly... the tables are too big... the fonts too small... i can barely fit any page onto my screen versus the same page in windoze
[07:17] <Orborde> Razor-X, Beyond that backup Gedit creates, no.
[07:17] <volvoguy> esc_ape, i haven't used any myself, but i think there's something like "dvd::rip"
[07:18] <jbull> what version of ff are you running?
[07:18] <tgnb> rob^, ok i will try it
[07:18] <Luna-Tick> Dr: There is a difference between dumbing things down and automatically configuring hardware to the best defaults
[07:18] <esc_ape> dvd::rip...I think I remember hearing about that
[07:18] <esc_ape> thanks
[07:18] <volvoguy> esc_ape, no problem. there might be something on ubuntuguide.org about it.
[07:19] <esc_ape> ok cool
[07:19] <setite> 1.0.6
[07:19] <dell500> how is a video dvd suppose to be structured to work on a dvd player??
[07:19] <jbull> setite:  are you running hoary or breezy?
[07:19] <setite> hoary...
[07:20] <oceandead> some people dont work in IT and dont have time to learn... its akin to requiring "you have to be a mechanic before you're issued a drivers license"
[07:20] <tristanmike> good analogy oceandead
[07:20] <jbull> hm...that might be a problem w/gtk+...have you fudged with the font settings?
[07:20] <esc_ape> I remember there was some trouble watching dvds in linux...am I correct?
[07:21] <tristanmike> yes, you have to enable it
[07:21] <volvoguy> esc_ape, i believe the problem is that the decrypter has to be licensed. there are ways of watching dvd's in linux though.
[07:22] <c0rrupt_> =-OOOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:22] <BigIslandVegan> Anybody know about using Bluetooth to access the internet through T-Mobile's Unlimited Internet with a Motorola V600, using a PowerBook G4? I do this on Mac OS X and would like to do it on Ubuntu. :-)
[07:22] <Madpilot> esc_ape: the dvd css thing is in hoary-extras. check the wiki
[07:22] <Madpilot> esc_ape: the legality of it is questionable, but it's there...
[07:23] <Orborde> Razor-X, Any ideas? I don't have a pre-new-kernel backup of menu.lst
[07:23] <tristanmike> why is it, when you buy a dvd burner, you still can't watch DVD's?
[07:23] <esc_ape> ok thanks
[07:23] <tristanmike> rhetorical.........
[07:23] <setite> jbull: yea i got those crappy win font package
[07:23] <DukGalNamu> this is getting pretty anoying, firefox is freezing like crazy
[07:23] <setite> i needed it because some sites wouldnt show text
[07:23] <volvoguy> esc_ape, the legality of the *software* is questionable, but i'm pretty sure you're allowed to watch your own or rented dvds. :)
[07:24] <setite> !bluetooth
[07:24] <ubotu> setite: Not a clue
[07:24] <karol_18> server irc.cl
[07:24] <skapple> hi karol_18
[07:24] <DukGalNamu> forgot the /
[07:24] <BigIslandVegan> !bluetooth
[07:24] <x_madbot> where can I find linux-image-2.6.12 (repository)?
[07:24] <DukGalNamu> ohh
[07:24] <DukGalNamu> i need to go for a reboot
[07:24] <DukGalNamu> new kernel
[07:25] <jbull> setite:  ah yes, the old "invisible text" bug--besides the fonts have you played with the dpi?
[07:25] <setite> hey BigIslandVegan try this http://www.tuaw.com/2004/07/31/motorola-v600-cingular-bluetooth-powerbook-heaven/
[07:25] <setite> no
[07:25] <setite> on occasion i zoom the text in or out
[07:26] <setite> when the site loads in the default size its still too spread out... and the font is unreadable
[07:26] <Elsidox> can someone tell me how to upgrade to breezy?
[07:26] <setite> there is alot of wasted space in the renderings
[07:26] <BigIslandVegan> thanks
[07:26] <BigIslandVegan> i'll look
[07:26] <Elsidox> do I just change my sourcelist?
[07:26] <setite> myspace.com is a site that does it
[07:26] <jbull> Elsidox:  short answer, yes.
[07:26] <Elsidox> jbull, whats the long answere
[07:26] <Elsidox> =)
[07:26] <jbull> setite:  unreadable font, as in too small?
[07:26] <setite> yes
[07:27] <setite> too small
[07:27] <setite> and the windows fonts suck
[07:27] <tristanmike> why do all these people want to upgrade to an unfinished project?
[07:27] <jbull> Elsidox:  well, the long answer involves fixing whatever breaks when you upgrade, if anything
[07:27] <tristanmike> is there something I'm missing?
[07:27] <setite> they are like windows without cleartype... missing corners and the like
[07:27] <Elsidox> jbull, ok. Thanks.
[07:27] <Ice9> how do I get audio codec for xine?
[07:27] <setite> does linux have a ClearType thing?
[07:27] <volvoguy> tristanmike, some of us are doing testing for the laptop team. that's my excuse anyway. :)
[07:28] <nlghtcrawler> goodnight guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:28] <jbull> setite:  gross. yes, linux does have a "ClearType"-ish thing--autohinting if i'm not mistaken
[07:28] <setite> ??
[07:29] <Ice9> how do I get audio codec for xine? for mpeg layer?
[07:29] <volvoguy> setite, check out /etc/fonts/local.conf
[07:29] <setite> lemme make sure my monitor is in the right reso... everything looks a little too big
[07:29] <dell500> does anyone know what VSI, XVO, and IFO files are for a dvd backup?
[07:29] <jbull> setite:  volvoguy beat me to it
[07:29] <volvoguy> jbull, :)
[07:29] <karol_18> server irc.cl
[07:30] <setite> beat you to what
[07:30] <oceandead> ill do testing for breezy ... same repos just "breezy" instead of "hoary"?
[07:30] <jbull> setite:  the name of the file you should take a look at to see if autohinting is enabled
[07:30] <setite> well he didnt use my name so its hard to pick up in everything
[07:31] <umboto> i installed java and i installed limewire the way the docu said to but nothing happens
[07:31] <setite> volvoguy: nice car... we used to buy volvos alot
[07:31] <tristanmike> volvoguy: I'd just think that if you asking how to upgrade, maybe you're not ready, like me....
[07:31] <volvoguy> oceandead, at the moment we're supposed to just be doing fresh installs of Breezy. you could ask in #ubuntu-laptop though. upgraders may be helpful too.
[07:31] <umboto> i mean like i click the icon for it
[07:31] <setite> we had 4 int he late 80s
[07:31] <c0rrupt_> how can i turn the banner off on proftpd
[07:31] <umboto> but nothing happens
[07:32] <oceandead> ok ill do a fresh install tomorrow :)
[07:33] <setite> i cant tell if its on
[07:33] <setite> jbull: can i msg you a 7 line spam
[07:33] <volvoguy> tristanmike, understandable. i have a box for testing that has been upgrading to breezy since it was made available, but it's definitely not ready for full-time use.
[07:33] <jbull> setite:  sure
[07:33] <setite> <!-- Uncomment below to enable the freetype autohinter module -->
[07:33] <setite> <!--
[07:34] <setite>   <match target="font">
[07:34] <setite>     <edit name="autohint" mode="assign">
[07:34] <setite>       <bool>true</bool>
[07:34] <setite>     </edit>
[07:34] <setite>   </match>
[07:34] <volvoguy> setite, you'll need to restart X for changes to take effect.
[07:34] <setite> shit that didnt work
[07:34] <bimberi> setite: /query works better :)
[07:34] <jbull> setite:  looks like you need to uncomment those lines to turn autohinting on
[07:34] <tristanmike> volvoguy: I wish I had a spare box....
[07:34] <setite> i typed in /msg jbull then pasted the spam... sorry... it spammed... and left /msg jbull in the input
[07:34] <setite> ok yea... i dont know how they are commented
[07:34] <setite> the <> ?
[07:35] <volvoguy> tristanmike, it's nothing fancy. a hand-me-down that's probably not worth $25.
[07:35] <jbull> remove the <!-- before <match target="font"> and the --!> at the end of that section
[07:35] <setite> hey Vegan how is that page working out
[07:35] <tristanmike> lol
[07:35] <setite> just that one line?
[07:36] <billytwowilly> anyone using voip.net? how do I make their voicemail actually act like voicemail?
[07:36] <BigIslandVegan> setite: it's for mac os x, which i have working already
[07:36] <setite> ohhhh i get it
[07:36] <tristanmike> volvoguy: a $25 computer running a $0.00 OS, amazing
[07:36] <setite> oh.... sorry
[07:36] <setite> ill look some more
[07:36] <jbull> setite:  the end bracket should be after </match>
[07:36] <BigIslandVegan> i'm looking too, again...for months :-)
[07:37] <volvoguy> tristanmike, yes. and surprisingly it's useful enough to do real work on sometimes. (the newer .42 of Inkscape is pretty  nice!)
[07:38] <Orborde> Razor-X, So have you given up, then?
[07:39] <OwnageLinux> hey ppl
[07:39] <volvoguy> i need to crash for a while. i'll be back later.
[07:40] <OwnageLinux> guys i just installed ubuntu wat do i type after i log in to get in?
[07:40] <jbull> OwnageLinux:  youve already logged in?
[07:40] <OwnageLinux> yes.
[07:40] <setite> vegan
[07:40] <setite> BigIslandVegan: did you see this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34740
[07:40] <BigIslandVegan> I'll look
[07:40] <jbull> OwnageLinux:  so...what exactly do you need to "get in" to?
[07:40] <ray_> hello .......how do i force a cdrom drive to eject?
[07:41] <c0rrupt_> how do i turn off the banner in proftpd
[07:41] <Misos_> How can I make a program load-up on boot?
[07:41] <oceandead> ray_, paperclip
[07:41] <ray_> oceandead, i wish i had one man!!
[07:41] <tgnb> rob^, i manually installed the ati drivers and got them to work for 2d but DRI is not yet working
[07:41] <OwnageLinux> jbull: i wanna get to the desktop...
[07:41] <BigIslandVegan> setite, if i disappear suddenly, don't be offended, my hard drive is dying and freaks out unexpectedly
[07:41] <jbull> ray_: sudo /dev/hdc/ eject doesn't work?
[07:41] <BigIslandVegan> it's a toshiba 80 gb in this powerbook
[07:41] <tgnb> rob^, dri fails to load. the X log says "incompatible kernel module detected HW accelerated OpenGL will not work"
[07:41] <oceandead> hmmm, bend a staple so its stright then?
[07:41] <setite> its not exactly what you need... but with my evdo pc card(cell phone broadband) i had to piece together instructions to get it working
[07:41] <OwnageLinux> jbull: wat do i type to get to the desktop?
[07:41] <setite> BigIslandVegan: no worrieds
[07:41] <tgnb> rob^,  the kernel version is 8.8.25 and the drivers i installed are 8.16.20
[07:41] <ray_> jbull, nope
[07:42] <Misos_> How can I make a program load-up on boot?
[07:42] <Elsidox> BigIslandVegan, runs macosx
[07:42] <OwnageLinux>  jbull: wat do i type to get to the desktop?
[07:42] <jbull> OwnageLinux:  where are you if not at the desktop?
[07:42] <BigIslandVegan> ?
[07:42] <setite> i thought BigIslandVegan runs ubuntu
[07:42] <OwnageLinux> im on a different computer jbull
[07:42] <thegreengiant> hello all
[07:42] <BigIslandVegan> I have both on this computer
[07:42] <oceandead> ray_, paperclip - staple bent so its straight - toothpick
[07:42] <Elsidox> =)
[07:42] <OwnageLinux> im a noob to ubuntu i just installed it on a diff computer
[07:42] <setite> Elsidox: what are you talking abotu?
[07:42] <thegreengiant> anyone using 5.10?
[07:43] <oceandead> anything thin enough and straight
[07:43] <setite> Elsidox: what are you talking aboot?
[07:43] <OwnageLinux> jbull:how do i get to desktop?
[07:43] <jbull> OwnageLinux:  after logging in it should take you straight to the desktop
[07:43] <oceandead> not yet thegreengiant
[07:43] <ray_> oceandead, yeah but.........the software would still consider the drive mounted
[07:43] <setite> .slap Misos_
[07:43] <OwnageLinux> jbull it just gives me ownagelinux@ubuntu: ~$
[07:43] <Misos_> curses
[07:43] <Elsidox> setite, im talking about BigIslandVegan running MacOSX.
[07:43] <setite> what abotu it
[07:43] <Elsidox> nothing
[07:43] <setite> your a crackhead
[07:43] <Elsidox> lol
[07:43] <setite> bah... your wasting time
[07:43] <OwnageLinux> jbull :  jbull it just gives me ownagelinux@ubuntu: ~$... wat do i type
[07:43] <Misos_> Oh ye, follower of Set and the Left Hand Path, surely you can help me out?
[07:44] <oceandead> i had problem today ...wouldnt eject ...i used paperclip ...ejected....put different cd in ....mounted it fine
[07:44] <Elsidox> setite, im glad to see you judge me that way
[07:44] <jbull> OwnageLinux:  try startx
[07:44] <setite> Misos_: for your knowledge i will attempt
[07:44] <thegreengiant> does ubuntu pull from stable or a mix?
[07:44] <setite> whats your problem
[07:44] <OwnageLinux> jbull ive tied startx nothing happens it doesnt recognize command
[07:44] <oceandead> gnome-volume-manager running of course
[07:44] <jtan325> OwnageLinux,
[07:44] <jtan325> try
[07:44] <jtan325> "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[07:44] <OwnageLinux> ok
[07:44] <bob2> OwnageLinux: then install x-window-system-core
[07:44] <thegreengiant> ??
[07:44] <Misos_> I want to start a program when my system boots up.
[07:45] <jbull> jtan325:  my second option ;)
[07:45] <setite> which desktop
[07:45] <bob2> but something is terribly wrong if you don't have that installed
[07:45] <setite> gnome?
[07:45] <jtan325> yeah
[07:45] <jtan325> what bob2 said
[07:45] <jtan325> you probably just got to command-line by accident
[07:45] <jtan325> or not?
[07:45] <Nooks_> just quickly:  with reference to the Live CD, is there any really point in running xscreensaver if the ubuntu user has no valid password?
[07:45] <str8edge> has anyone gotten dashboard to build from cvs?
[07:45] <Misos_> setite - were you asking me or jtan?
[07:45] <setite> you
[07:46] <thegreengiant> how easy is the kernel source to get for ubuntu so that i can install nvidia?
[07:46] <Nooks_> because this just screwed me out of my session.  thanks a bunch.
[07:46] <jtan325> Misos_, what do you want to get started
[07:46] <setite> put it on /home/"login"/.kde/Autostart, and in "Sessions">"start programs" on Gnome
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Nooks_,  for the purty pictures :P
[07:46] <Misos_> I boot into command-line
[07:46] <ian_> Nooks_: why did you lose your session?
[07:46] <jbull> str8edge:  dashboard or beagle?
[07:46] <jtan325> and you want to run something when you bootup?
[07:46] <Misos_> I have people runnign MUDs, and I want them to start automatically when the system starts.
[07:46] <OwnageLinux> jtan i got a password thing
[07:46] <jtan325> without loggin in?
[07:46] <OwnageLinux> wats the pw to sudp etc omot thomg
[07:46] <str8edge> jbull: i have beagle 0.12 and mono running in both hoary and breezy, I can't get Dashboard compiled from cvs
[07:46] <thegreengiant> usually if you leave something running when you shutdown it will come back up the next login
[07:47] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, it's the same as your normal user password
[07:47] <OwnageLinux> ok
[07:47] <setite> str8edge: want a beer?
[07:47] <Nooks_> ian : i closed my laptop lid to do something, opened it again and was confronted with an xswcreensaver prompt.  killing xscreensaver meant that none of the apps it was "protecting" would get focus anymore.
[07:47] <Misos_> so, for example, one is /home/user/mud/autorun
[07:47] <OwnageLinux> etf..
[07:47] <str8edge> setite: no thanks.
[07:47] <OwnageLinux> wtf-*
[07:47] <bedi> sooo, now i will upgrade my hoary to breezy... i thing it works fine! =)
[07:47] <Nooks_> and now my one-time passwords are out of sync.
[07:47] <charlie> hi
[07:47] <OwnageLinux> after i type in the pw it says command not found
[07:47] <charlie> I have problem
[07:47] <charlie> with video
[07:47] <charlie> I cant play mpeg
[07:47] <setite> i dont even know what a MUD is
[07:48] <Misos_> text-based game
[07:48] <str8edge> !restricted
[07:48] <ubotu> I guess restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:48] <bob2> Nooks_: I'd file a bug if it's not possible at all to log back in again
[07:48] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, can you explain your problem
[07:48] <dell500> does anyone know what VSI, XVO, and IFO files are for a dvd backup?
[07:48] <Misos_> but that's not important
[07:48] <koxel> Do you installed codec?
[07:48] <jtan325> i wasn't here when you said the first part of your problem
[07:48] <jbull> str8edge:  im not even sure that dashboard is being actively developed atm
[07:48] <Misos_> I just need it to start at boot. =P
[07:48] <OwnageLinux> jtan...: it boots ubuntu.... asks for login and pw
[07:48] <Misos_> like openssh starts, or any other service
[07:48] <Nooks_> bob2, it sure isn't
[07:48] <charlie> hi
[07:48] <ian_> Nooks_: why not?
[07:48] <OwnageLinux> i login and then it says matt@ubuntumatt:~$
[07:48] <Nooks_> where's the BTS for ubuntu?
[07:48] <charlie> I need to play a mpeg
[07:48] <bob2> Nooks_: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[07:48] <OwnageLinux> jtan:  i login and then it says matt@ubuntumatt:~$
[07:48] <str8edge> jbull: I was able to get it running a couple of months ago, before beagle entered hoary & breezy.
[07:48] <bob2> Misos_: what do you want to start?
[07:48] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, there's no desktop?
[07:49] <koxel> charlie, Do you use gstreamer ?
[07:49] <koxel> or xine?
[07:49] <Nooks_> ian_: because ubuntu's entry in /etc/passwd has a ! as the initial character of the second field
[07:49] <OwnageLinux> jtan it doesnt go to a desktop
[07:49] <jtan325> hmm
[07:49] <monoxide> what is the kernel module for software raid support?
[07:49] <charlie> gstreamer?
[07:49] <OwnageLinux> its just at a dos-like screen
[07:49] <str8edge> charlie look in the wiki for restricted formats
[07:49] <Misos_> It's a process, no gui... the file location is /home/user/mud/autorun
[07:49] <str8edge> !restricted
[07:49] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:49] <Misos_> autorun is the file name
[07:49] <charlie> restricted formats?
[07:49] <OwnageLinux> jtan32: wth do i do
[07:49] <Misos_> I don't boot into gdm or kde or anything, I boot into a command-line interface.
[07:49] <bob2> OwnageLinux: how did you manage to not install it properly?
[07:49] <jtan325> OwnageLinux what are you talkinng from right now then?
[07:49] <oceandead> l33t
[07:49] <str8edge> charlie look at what ubotu is saying and folloe the link.
[07:49] <koxel> add universe & multivers in sourcelist
[07:49] <jtan325> a second computer?
[07:49] <bob2> OwnageLinux: you didn't select the "expert" option or anything, did you?
[07:50] <koxel> or
[07:50] <oceandead> heh
[07:50] <OwnageLinux> bob: i dunno :\
[07:50] <koxel> add backport in sourcelist
[07:50] <charlie> ok thanks
[07:50] <koxel> if you use gstreamer .
[07:50] <bob2> OwnageLinux: you just did a default install?
[07:50] <OwnageLinux> how the hell do i fix the problem
[07:50] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, try doing Ctrl+Alt+F7
[07:50] <str8edge> charlie: you're welcome.
[07:50] <bob2> OwnageLinux: no special options, no errors?
[07:50] <OwnageLinux> wats that do tan
[07:50] <setite> yea thats soemthign i cant help with sadly... i only have an inkling of how to do it in KDM..... autostart is a windows curse i remember
[07:50] <koxel> You can install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[07:50] <jtan325> well
[07:50] <jtan325> usually you can switch between desktop and full-screen command terminal
[07:50] <OwnageLinux> lol it did nothing :\
[07:51] <jtan325> with Ctrl+Alt+F1 or Ctrl+Alt+F7
[07:51] <jtan325> (F1 goes to terminal mode)
[07:51] <OwnageLinux> i never got to the desktop though..
[07:51] <Misos_> Do you actually belong to te Temple of Set?
[07:51] <jtan325> hmmm
[07:51] <OwnageLinux> im at full screen coomando terminal
[07:51] <str8edge> jbull: any ideas other than using cvs to build both beagle and dashboard from source?
[07:51] <bob2> Misos_: please don't /msg me
[07:51] <jtan325> then how are you talking to us?
[07:51] <bob2> OwnageLinux: "it did nothing"?
[07:51] <jtan325> from a second terminal?
[07:51] <jtan325> second computer i mean?
[07:51] <OwnageLinux> yeds
[07:51] <charlie> thankds
[07:51] <bob2> Misos_: what are you trying to have run automatically?
[07:51] <jtan325> hmm
[07:52] <jtan325> ok OwnageLinux try "gnome-session"
[07:52] <OwnageLinux> after i login on the commando terminal i just get "matt@ubuntumatt:!$
[07:52] <glick> has anyone here set up a cvs server on ubuntu?
[07:52] <Misos_> bob2 - as I said, it's a process more or less - it's a MUD
[07:52] <jbull> str8edge:  i just checked out latest dashboard and it spit some errors at me on make...
[07:52] <OwnageLinux> jtan how do i do gnome session?
[07:52] <jtan325> no
[07:52] <jtan325> type that in
[07:52] <jtan325> and press enter
[07:52] <OwnageLinux> ??
[07:52] <bob2> Misos_: and it's not in ubuntu?
[07:52] <Sutekh_Away> http://www.mudconnect.com/
[07:52] <Misos_> bob 2 - the file locaiton is /home/user/mud/autorun - autorun is the file name, and I want that to run when I boot-up
[07:52] <Nooks_> bob2: well, I should really check the latest version of the Live CD before submitting a bug, I think.  but I will, since this just cost me my ability to work from home
[07:52] <OwnageLinux> type waht in jtan?
[07:52] <str8edge> jbull: me too, you using hoary or breezy right now?
[07:52] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, just type "gnome-session"
[07:52] <jbull> str8edge:  breezy
[07:52] <jtan325> and press enter
[07:52] <Misos_> bob2 - I run it in Ubuntu, but I want to to load when Unbuntu loads
[07:53] <OwnageLinux> ok
[07:53] <Nooks_> (christ, as if I needed another reason that xscreensaver is too fucked-up for words)
[07:53] <bob2> Misos_: but the MUD software isn't included in Ubuntu?
[07:53] <OwnageLinux> with the quotes?
[07:53] <glick> breezy comes out in two months right?
[07:53] <str8edge> jbull: did you use the beagle packages or pull from cvs?
[07:53] <jtan325> no
[07:53] <bob2> Nooks_: heh, less bad than the alternatives, at least
[07:53] <OwnageLinux> doesnt work..
[07:53] <jtan325> jbull, you trying to get beagle working?
[07:53] <Misos_> bob 2 - correct, though OpenSSH isn't included by default either, it still boots-up when Ubuntu does
[07:53] <bob2> Nooks_: and on the plus side, jwz has abandoned it now ;)
[07:53] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, does it say "command not found?
[07:53] <tgnb> what do i have to install to get /usr/src/linux kernel headers?
[07:53] <OwnageLinux> -bash: gnome-session: command not found
[07:53] <jbull> jtan325:  no, trying to help str8edge build dashboard from cvs
[07:54] <jtan325> what's dashboard
[07:54] <jtan325> !dashboard
[07:54] <ubotu> jtan325: Are you smoking crack?
[07:54] <OwnageLinux> jtan:  -bash: gnome-session: command not found
[07:54] <jtan325> lol
[07:54] <jbull> str8edge:  you think that pulling beagle from cvs would fix the build errors?
[07:54] <bob2> tgnb: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:54] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, i think you have a seriously messed up installation then
[07:54] <Nooks_> bob2: that's really very comforting
[07:54] <bob2> OwnageLinux: this system is highly broken
[07:54] <OwnageLinux> so what do i do?
[07:54] <jtan325> reinstall
[07:54] <str8edge> jtan325: dashboard is a search aggregator for beagle. www.nat.org/dashboard
[07:54] <OwnageLinux> ok..
[07:54] <jtan325> and don't do anything funny
[07:54] <str8edge> jbull: we'll find out.
[07:54] <Misos_> bob2 - so do you not know how?
[07:54] <OwnageLinux> but it will install the same way...
[07:54] <jbull> str8edge:  indeed
[07:54] <OwnageLinux> wouldnt it still b fucked?
[07:55] <jtan325> hmm i doubt it
[07:55] <bob2> OwnageLinux: burn a fresh cd, make sure it's ok (ie verify the md5sum) and reinstall, without using any special boot options
[07:55] <jtan325> yeah
[07:55] <esc_ape> I have a Linksys Wireless-G PCI Adapter. I want to try linux...will this be a problem?
[07:55] <OwnageLinux> bob2 - i just burnt and iso and ran it....
[07:55] <str8edge> jbull: i'm running make on a cvs version of beagle right now
[07:55] <OwnageLinux> didnt do anything weird...
[07:55] <bob2> Misos_: er , of course.  copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to /etc/init.d/whatever, edit it to run your MUD, and then use 'update-rc.d' to install it into the default run level system
[07:55] <jbull> str8edge:  the moment of truth...
[07:55] <OwnageLinux> guys if i reinstall im just gunna get the same fucked up thing again
[07:56] <str8edge> jbull: 1.8 gig celery laptop so it shouldn't take too long :)
[07:56] <bob2> OwnageLinux: why do you think that?
[07:56] <OwnageLinux> cuz i did eeverything normal..
[07:56] <bob2> OwnageLinux: I'm not sure how you could know that if you don't know what went wrong last time
[07:56] <dell500> does anyone know how I can backup a bunch of XVO, IFO, and VSI files??
[07:56] <jtan325> str8edge, that looks tight
[07:56] <str8edge> jbull: it crapped out too
[07:56] <OwnageLinux> ok well ill reinstall and see if it works... tommorow
[07:56] <str8edge> ./configure: line 20666: `AC_PROG_INTLTOOL(0.23)'
[07:56] <glick> scuse me isnt there a better circuit schematic design tool than dia
[07:56] <glick> ?
[07:56] <dell500> !xvo
[07:56] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, dell500
[07:56] <OwnageLinux> bob2: ill reinstall 2morrow.. im out now peace
[07:56] <jtan325> OwnageLinux, it took me like 3 installations before i got things completely right
[07:56] <bob2> OwnageLinux: check the md5sum of the disk, first.
[07:56] <jbull> str8edge:  what kind of error?
[07:56] <jtan325> so yea
[07:56] <dell500> !XVO
[07:56] <ubotu> dell500: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:56] <bimberi> esc_ape: Have a look for your card here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:56] <str8edge> jtan: it runs linux fine..
[07:56] <Misos_> bob 2 - /etc/init.d/whatever? =P
[07:56] <OwnageLinux> bob2 how do i check the md5 sum?
[07:57] <dell500> !VOB
[07:57] <ubotu> Wish i knew, dell500
[07:57] <str8edge> jbull: checking for wsdl... /usr/bin/wsdl
[07:57] <str8edge> ./configure: line 20666: syntax error near unexpected token `0.23'
[07:57] <str8edge> ./configure: line 20666: `AC_PROG_INTLTOOL(0.23)'
[07:57] <bob2> OwnageLinux: do you have an existing linux install?
[07:57] <jtan325> bob2, you helped me out with my wireless problems a few days ago
[07:57] <bob2> str8edge: please use #flood
[07:57] <OwnageLinux> well bob.... i just installed it over a windows me
[07:57] <bob2> jtan325: still working?
[07:57] <OwnageLinux> and no... thats my only linux
[07:57] <jtan325> bob2, yeah. i was just wondering if there's a command line way
[07:57] <str8edge> bob2: can do.
[07:57] <jtan325> to tell the os to "use" eth0 or wlan0
[07:57] <jtan325> if both were plugged in
[07:58] <OwnageLinux> peace.
[07:58] <bob2> jtan325: sure, use ifplugd
[07:58] <jtan325> hmm ok
[07:58] <bob2> OwnageLinux: boot using the "expert" option, then select "verify cd" from the menu
[07:58] <bob2> OwnageLinux: if it's ok, reboot and d oa normal install
[07:58] <jtan325> what are the relevant command line stuff related to networking? dhclient, ifconfig, iwconfig, ifplugd....
[07:59] <bob2> dhclient lets you request things from a dhcp server
[07:59] <bob2> ifconfig configures network-related stuff for interfaces
[07:59] <bob2> iwconfig twiddles wireless setggins
[07:59] <jbull> str8edge:  make succeeded for me
[07:59] <bob2> ifplugd is a daemon that runs and detects cables being plugged in
[07:59] <str8edge> jbull: I'm apt-getting intltool as we speak
[07:59] <jtan325> ok and i really don't have to do anything to get wireless working on bootup do i ?
[08:00] <jtan325> as long as there's stuff in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:00] <bob2> correct
[08:00] <BigIslandVegan> setite, thanks for being friendly, have a good one
[08:00] <c0rrupt_> helllllllllo
[08:00] <bob2> I'm too lazy to automate any of it, so I just use dhclient and "ip" to configure things as I go
[08:00] <c0rrupt_> how can i remove the banner with proftpd
[08:02] <str8edge> jbull: not it wants sqlite :)
[08:02] <jtan325> bob2, is there a way to get ifplugd to run during bootup
[08:02] <bob2> jtan325: presumably it does that by default
[08:02] <c0rrupt_> why are these repos using outdated software
[08:02] <jtan325> after installation?
[08:03] <jbull> str8edge:  not to worry--even with beagle cvs, build still fails..
[08:03] <c0rrupt_> bob2 how often are the repos updated
[08:03] <niran> did anyone's mono apps stop working in breezy
[08:03] <niran> ?
[08:03] <str8edge> thanks for the update.
[08:03] <niran> "The assembly was not found in the Global Assembly Cache"
[08:03] <str8edge> niran: i'm using f-spot, beagle, and tomboy right now
[08:03] <bob2> c0rrupt_: repos of what?
[08:03] <jbull> niran:  what str8edge said
[08:03] <niran> str8edge, ok, thanks
[08:03] <c0rrupt_> the main repositories
[08:03] <c0rrupt_> for ubuntu
[08:04] <bob2> c0rrupt_: of what?
[08:04] <str8edge> niran: I had to install a few more packages using synaptic, but it all works.
[08:04] <c0rrupt_> community supported
[08:04] <bob2> c0rrupt_: hoary is obviously frozen, so it doesn't get updated
[08:04] <c0rrupt_> ?
[08:04] <bob2> c0rrupt_: breezy is updated every 15 minutes
[08:04] <c0rrupt_> wtf
[08:04] <c0rrupt_> can i use breezy?
[08:04] <bob2> no
[08:04] <c0rrupt_> so
[08:04] <c0rrupt_> im stuck using old, exploitable software?
[08:04] <bob2> yes, exactly
[08:04] <bob2> ubuntu even adds extra remote exploits
[08:04] <c0rrupt_> why cant i use breezy...
[08:04] <bob2> because it's KWALITY
[08:05] <bob2> of course it's not exploitable
[08:05] <bob2> hoary gets immediate security updates
[08:05] <str8edge> niran: I also have a couple of other mono apps running.. BLAM! and monothea (dvd catalogue app)
[08:05] <jtan325> c0rrupt_, just read some of the bug reports
[08:05] <bob2> in a seperate repository
[08:05] <jtan325> about breezy
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> ?
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> im confused
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> for example.
[08:05] <niran> str8edge, ok, i'm just going to reinstall my mono stack
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> im using proftpd
[08:05] <bob2> c0rrupt_: you can use it if you want, but it's the development version, so things break
[08:05] <str8edge> niran: cool.
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> ah
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> well
[08:05] <bob2> c0rrupt_: if a hole is found in proftpd, it gets fixed in the hoary-security repository
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> well
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> there is a hole
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> and
[08:05] <bob2> running breezy on a server you want security fixes for is dumb
[08:05] <c0rrupt_> and
[08:06] <str8edge> c0rrupt_: stuff breaks bad in breezy.
[08:06] <c0rrupt_> ok
[08:06] <c0rrupt_> i wont use breezy but
[08:06] <c0rrupt_> in proftp
[08:06] <c0rrupt_> d
[08:06] <bob2> c0rrupt_: try putting a whole sentence on one line
[08:06] <c0rrupt_> sorry, everyone tells me that
[08:06] <lee_> ok
[08:06] <bob2> it's extraordinarily annoying
[08:06] <bob2> c0rrupt_: if there's an unfixed hole in proftp, tell the security team
[08:06] <c0rrupt_> well, there is a hole in proftpd. and when i apt-get upgrade, it says eveyrhting is up to date
[08:06] <c0rrupt_> how can i tell the security team
[08:07] <bob2> c0rrupt_: did you configure apt to use the security repositories?
[08:07] <c0rrupt_> want to look at my sources.list?
[08:07] <jasoncohen> c0rrupt_, you should tell pitti in #ubuntu-devel. he works on many of the security updates
[08:07] <str8edge> corrupt_: try adding the following line to your sources.list "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted"
[08:07] <c0rrupt_> i think i have that add already
[08:07] <jasoncohen> c0rrupt_, it's not here https://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/usn/errorreferencefolder_view
[08:08] <c0rrupt_> yea, deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricte was already added
[08:08] <sudarta> help me
[08:08] <str8edge> jbull: thanks for the help. have a good night
[08:08] <c0rrupt_> so
[08:08] <bob2> sudarta: you need to ask a question...
[08:08] <jbull> str8edge:  np you too
[08:08] <kevor> sudarta - just ask the questen, read the faq
[08:08] <bob2> c0rrupt_: oh, proftp is in universe
[08:08] <c0rrupt_> ?
[08:09] <bob2> c0rrupt_: tell #ubuntu-motu
[08:09] <jasoncohen> c0rrupt_, proftpd is in universe so it doesn't get official security support
[08:09] <c0rrupt_> oh.
[08:09] <sudarta> i need help on setting up Logitech webcamexpress on my ubuntu
[08:09] <c0rrupt_> what should i tell them, exactly
[08:09] <jasoncohen> c0rrupt_, if you want the version from breezy, just add a breezy "source" source and "apt-get build-dep proftpd ; apt-get source -b proftpd"
[08:10] <bimberi> of course there's always vsftpd
[08:10] <sudarta> tnx bob, I am Indonesian with terrible english.... :( but my dictionary is here...;)
[08:10] <c0rrupt_> i have build-dep installed
[08:10] <jasoncohen> build-dep isn't a packaged
[08:10] <c0rrupt_> whats -b do
[08:10] <c0rrupt_> i know
[08:10] <jasoncohen> apt-get build-dep package will install the build dependencies to build that package from source
[08:10] <c0rrupt_> its all the tools needed for building right
[08:10] <c0rrupt_> oh
[08:10] <c0rrupt_> like
[08:10] <c0rrupt_> -f
[08:11] <jasoncohen> -b is to build after downloading the source
[08:11] <c0rrupt_> sorry i did it again
[08:11] <c0rrupt_> how can i remove the banner from popping up in proftpd on connect
[08:11] <c0rrupt_> so at least people cannot tell my version
[08:11] <karol_18> rver irc.cl
[08:12] <sudarta> i need help on setting up Logitech webcamexpress on my ubuntu
[08:12] <bob2> c0rrupt_: that's unlikely to help at all
[08:12] <c0rrupt_> ..
[08:12] <bob2> people tend to just try exploits
[08:12] <c0rrupt_> true.
[08:12] <c0rrupt_> real pentesters exploit live
[08:13] <kevor> i'm a people, i never use exploids :P
[08:13] <kevor> yo Seveas
[08:13] <c0rrupt_> heh
[08:13] <kevor> is it ok to use linux and not be a 31337 h4x0r?
[08:13] <c0rrupt_> NIENNN
[08:13] <kevor> O_o
[08:14] <c0rrupt_> you will get hizh4xed to the m00n
[08:14] <oceandead> <- not 1337 h4x0r
[08:14] <kevor> but i dun wanna :(
[08:14] <c0rrupt_> hide in windows!
[08:14] <kevor> i have windows :) lots of 'm
[08:14] <kevor> managed by uhm, guess i'm running xfce4 here
[08:14] <hondje> I have one less today :-( Damn neighbors
[08:15] <hondje> yeah, wrong chan....
[08:15] <kevor> hehe, cute lil' doggy :D
[08:15] <kevor> so there are no more ppl that need help?
[08:16] <talios> ...i have this infection...?
[08:16] <kevor> you got lumps on ur penis?
[08:16] <hondje> I call her my gf
[08:16] <oceandead> heh
[08:16] <ian> hello ppl...does anybody used sql ledger ?
[08:16] <kevor> you girlfriend is lumpy?
[08:16] <kevor> nice!
[08:17] <hondje> :-)
[08:17] <hondje> In all the right places
[08:17] <ubuntu> hi all of u
[08:17] <ian> join #sql-legdger
[08:18] <ubuntu> dos this work?
[08:18] <hondje> Yes, it works
[08:18] <ubuntu> realy
[08:18] <kevor> yes ubuntu, we can  read the crap ur spitting at ur ircclient
[08:18] <Misos_> Can I upgrade to breezy using apt-get?
[08:18] <bob2> Misos_: of course
[08:18] <kevor> sure, but do you want to Misos_
[08:18] <bob2> Misos_: but it's not a very good idea
[08:19] <Misos_> I run Ubuntu inside of VMWare, I am still playing with it
[08:19] <Misos_> =P
[08:19] <hondje> why wouldn't you want to?
[08:19] <ubuntu> can u vice chat on here??
[08:19] <Misos_> what's the package name for it?
[08:19] <hondje> other than breezy being breezy
[08:19] <kevor> never understoot ppl who use VMwhere
[08:19] <bob2> ubuntu: "vice chat"?
[08:19] <bob2> if your addiction is ubuntu-related, I guess so
[08:19] <ubuntu> vove chat
[08:19] <bob2> Misos_: package name for what? breezy?
[08:20] <Misos_> es
[08:20] <Misos_> Yes*
[08:20] <ubuntu> SORRY Voce chat
[08:20] <bob2> Misos_: it's not a package, it's a suite of packages, just like hoary
[08:20] <Ice9> is rob^ here?
[08:20] <bob2> ubuntu: dude, "voice"?
[08:20] <Misos_> So how do I apt-get it? =P
[08:20] <Misos_> apt-get install breezy
[08:20] <Misos_> ?
[08:20] <bob2> Misos_: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, point it at breezy instead of hoary
[08:20] <kevor> haha ubuntu stop spilling cola on your keyboard
[08:20] <bob2> Misos_: no, it's not a package.  each ubuntu suite is a set o fpackages.
[08:20] <ubuntu> Some one just gave me this disk
[08:21] <Misos_> I see
[08:21] <Orborde> Some browser plugins (Flash, Adobe) do not seem to want to work under AMD64 Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[08:21] <bob2> Orborde: if you care about binary-only stuff, use the i386 port
[08:21] <bob2> it's a lot simpler
[08:21] <ubuntu> mmm why not
[08:21] <Ice9> can somebody please walk me through getting 3d acceleration working on my radeon 9250? I've tried everything
[08:22] <MrPockets> should Linux be running my system hotter then Windows :-x ?
[08:22] <kevor> Misos_ change the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list then run $ apt-get upgrade
[08:22] <bob2> Ice9: I'm pretty sure you don't have to do anything
[08:22] <bob2> no
[08:22] <hondje> MrPockets: Ubuntu will, because it's an african distro and prefers the heat
[08:22] <bob2> you run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[08:22] <bob2> or, better still, use aptitude
[08:22] <MrPockets> hondje that was horrable
[08:22] <Ice9> bob2, then why doesn't or work?
[08:22] <ubuntu> LOL
[08:22] <MrPockets> i mean ive heard bad... but wow
[08:22] <hondje> I tried though :-)
[08:22] <kevor> Misos_: do like bob said :P
[08:23] <bob2> Ice9: you haven't defined "not work" yet; my ibook had hardware acceleration working from the first time X started
[08:23] <MrPockets> its still only 15, so its pretty damn outta climate
[08:23] <ubuntu> this is good
[08:23] <Ice9> I've done everything the !ati link tells me, and I'm still getting like 35 fps with glxgears, and even when I test it
[08:24] <ubuntu> it work jus on the disk
[08:24] <evo> ok so how do i enable the glx backend for libglitz ?
[08:24] <bob2> uninstall firgl, for a start
[08:24] <c0rrupt_> ok, ive informated the people in motu
[08:24] <bob2> er, firegl
[08:24] <Ice9> I don't think I have that installed
[08:24] <c0rrupt_> they are examining my nessus-scan log
[08:25] <bob2> Ice9: well, it should have worked by default
[08:25] <bob2> if you messed with it, it's probably more broken
[08:25] <bob2> so undo everything you did
[08:25] <Ice9> I agree lol, but it didn't
[08:25] <Orborde> I could dual-boot both the AMD64 and i386 kernels from GRUB, can't I?
[08:26] <ubuntu> I am going to tray to lorn more opn what to do on this progrem
[08:26] <bob2> Orborde: well, yeah
[08:26] <bob2> Orborde: how would that help, tho?  your issue is that you have a 64-bit userland
[08:26] <Orborde> bob2, Did you have a better option?
[08:27] <bob2> I'd just not bother with flash, personally
[08:27] <Orborde> bob2, What do you mean?
[08:27] <ubuntu> i am no good on taping
[08:27] <bob2> another option would be installing a 32-bit firefox
[08:27] <bob2> I'd think the one from mozilla.org would work with ia32-libs
[08:27] <bob2> a chroot is the nuclear-hammer solution
[08:27] <blt> ubuntu, quick question.  Gnome can be rather a handfull
[08:34] <c0rrupt_> use kubuntu
[08:34] <Determinist> c0rrupt_: ohh, sorry, using irssi through ssh, not used to this colour scheme
[08:34] <cafuego> Doesn't look like there is a specific -k6 kernel, though.
[08:34] <c0rrupt_> down with gnome
[08:34] <bob2> Determinist: then install it...
[08:35] <x_or> Anyone here installed RAID using mpt370 driver?  Can I use it during install?
[08:35] <kevor> Gnome > *
[08:35] <c0rrupt_> NIEN!
[08:35] <kevor> YIES
[08:35] <Determinist> ok , gonna try... bbl
[08:35] <c0rrupt_> kde > gnome
[08:35] <cafuego> Is that software raid?
[08:35] <c0rrupt_> long live kubuntu!
[08:35] <bob2> x_or: if it's real hardware raid, there should be no [problem at all
[08:35] <MrPockets> i was going to go with DSL, but thats kinda small
[08:35] <tomaj> is it best to recompile the kernel using the wiki guide (which causes errors for me) or use the linux-source package from synaptic?
[08:35] <cafuego> c0rrupt_: #playtime is there -->
[08:35] <bob2> tomaj: why do you need to recompile it?
[08:35] <c0rrupt_> i dont see another arrow
[08:35] <kevor> dun see :I(
[08:35] <inva|id> why is xwd missing in breezy?
[08:35] <c0rrupt_> cafuego, has me confused. maybe its cause hes gay?
[08:36] <tomaj> bob2 i need ntfs write and all the other options suggested aren't working or to much trouble or to risky
[08:36] <c0rrupt_> no problem against gay people.. they just get me confused
[08:36] <x_or> bob2:  It seems like it, but when I get to partition step it sees two drives.
[08:36] <cafuego> c0rrupt_: Do you have anything to contribute or are you just here to troll?
[08:36] <x_or> bob2:  I've gone through the process in BIOS to setup the hardware RAID, but no go.
[08:36] <monoxide> what is the kernel module for software raid support?
[08:36] <Elsidox> I just upgraded to breezy and x wont startx. I get this error x something i snot executable
[08:36] <c0rrupt_> fine fine.. im sorry cafuego im trying to help, im just having a little fun. ill keep my side talk in another channel. *kisses your feet*
[08:36] <Elsidox> can anyone help?
[08:37] <monoxide> i setup a software raid array in the installer, but its not using it now...
[08:37] <kevor> Elsidox: check the topic :)
[08:37] <cafuego> monoxide: 'md'
[08:37] <Elsidox> kevor: the topic does not help my problem
[08:37] <bob2> tomaj: the ntfs write support in the kernel is known-broken
[08:37] <oceandead> hahaha
[08:37] <inva|id> can any breezy users check to see if their xwd is missing, or if it is just me?
[08:38] <bob2> tomaj: if you want to be able to write to it, either don't, or use captive-ntfs (which shouldn't require a recompile)
[08:38] <tomaj> bob2 i used it before with 2.6.8 and it seemed to work
[08:38] <kevor> Elsidox: ok, that's true, what's the error?
[08:38] <bob2> inva|id: lots of X binaries are MIA; what does packages.ubuntu.com say?
[08:38] <cafuego> inva|id: xwd what?
[08:39] <monoxide> cafuego, where would the raid array show up? what device?
[08:39] <monoxide> oe how do i reset up the array?
[08:39] <tomaj> bob2 but u need lufs for captive and from the sounds of it that's a dodgy program
[08:39] <cafuego> monoxide: /dev/md0
[08:39] <bob2> tomaj: anything that throws windows code into the kernel is going to be dodgy
[08:39] <cafuego> monoxide: You admin it using mdadm
[08:39] <itay> hi!
[08:39] <monoxide> cafuego, well, thats not there. i just loaded the module with modprobe and nothing
[08:39] <bob2> hte native ntfs driver is guaranteed to corrupt the filesystem, tho, afaik
[08:39] <inva|id> i'll poke around packages.ubuntu.com
[08:39] <Elsidox> kevor: /etc/x11/x is not excutable
[08:39] <cafuego> monoxide: Is /dev/md0 in /etc/fstab?
[08:39] <tomaj> so does that mean lufs is better than kernel ntfs writing?
[08:39] <monoxide> cafuego, no
[08:40] <bob2> I'd try to avoid either, very hard
[08:40] <cafuego> monoxide: Why would it start then?
[08:40] <itay> I'm trying to run a X applaction, but I get this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". What can I do?
[08:40] <monoxide> cafuego, the device isnt even there, but i set it up inside the ubuntu installer
[08:40] <Elsidox> kevor: any ideas?
[08:40] <cafuego> monoxide: Did you set it up AND make it mount, or did you ONLY set it up?
[08:41] <monoxide> i told it to mount to /home
[08:41] <cafuego> monoxide: What do kern.log and syslog have to say about it?
[08:41] <tomaj> bob2 so does that mean lufs is better than kernel ntfs writing?
[08:42] <Elsidox> can someone tell me how to make a file exautable from the command line?
[08:42] <hondje> Elsidox: chmod +x <filename>
[08:42] <oceandead> sudo chmod +x
[08:42] <monoxide> and the installer also forgot to add sata_via to the bootup modules, so i had troubles booting because all my text editors where on my sata drive which had the /usr partition
[08:42] <bob2> tomaj: what's so essential about writing to NTFS in this case?
[08:42] <Elsidox> hondje: oceandead thank you
[08:42] <cafuego> monoxide: which installer did you use?
[08:42] <tomaj> im using both windows and linux and i want to transfer files from linux to windows
[08:43] <bob2> tomaj: you don't have aany space to make a fat32 partition?
[08:43] <tomaj> nope its all used up
[08:43] <itay> what can I do to fix the problem?
[08:43] <tomaj> bob2 windows is even on a separate hdd
[08:43] <cafuego> tomaj: Windows can read your ext2 and ext3 partitions.
[08:43] <c0rrupt_> omgashz0r
[08:43] <cafuego> tomaj: (and write to them...)
[08:43] <c0rrupt_> windows cant* read ext2 and ext3
[08:43] <chrismy> hi all
[08:43] <c0rrupt_> =-o
[08:44] <tomaj> cafuego how do you set that up? that would work fine as well
[08:44] <ian> how do i put a short cut key menu of an application?
[08:44] <bob2> it can with an extra program
[08:44] <oceandead> i transfer using a windows share
[08:44] <Elsidox> can someone tell me how to configure x from the command line?
[08:44] <c0rrupt_> that program i do not know about
[08:44] <cafuego> tomaj: Let me have a look...
[08:44] <tomaj> thanx buddy
[08:44] <hondje> Elsidox: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:44] <bob2> Elsidox: it might be eaiser if you tell us the whole mess you're in
[08:44] <ian> hello...how do i put a short cut key menu of an application?
[08:44] <Elsidox> hondje: thanks
[08:44] <Elsidox> bob2: well if you willing to listen I will. =)
[08:44] <Elsidox> your*
[08:44] <manish> hi.  I just installed ubuntu and am having a problem with my environment setup.  It seems that after logging on the console, my .bash_profile is not being read.  However, if I remote login using ssh it is read and my environment is being setup properly.  I am using gnome - and it seems gdm is not starting bash as a login shell and as a result the .bash_profile is not read.  Can someone give me some suggestion - what I need to do to ensure tha
[08:45] <cafuego> tomaj: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[08:45] <bob2> I don't think anyone could possibly guess if they could help you or not before hearing the problem
[08:45] <Ice9> man! There has to be way to get 3d acceleration going! I'm so stumpt!
[08:45] <tomaj> cafuego does that read ext3?
[08:45] <cafuego> tomaj: I've used that on XP to read from and write to ext3.
[08:45] <bob2> manish: did you read the INVOCATION section of the bash manpage?
[08:45] <chrismy> how can i know whether or not I have MySQL enabled? by looking at the first part of the http://localhost/testphp.php?
[08:45] <tomaj> champion
[08:45] <ekimus> manish: configure the gnome-terminal to be a login shell
[08:45] <cafuego> tomaj: Just make sure the disk is maked as clean when you mount it under Windows.
[08:45] <bob2> Ice9: did you undo everything you did yet, then put your X log and config file on the web somewhere?
[08:45] <cafuego> marked as clean
[08:45] <tomaj> thanx heaps cafuego
[08:45] <cafuego> tomaj: np
[08:45] <Elsidox> bob2: I know we should be using breezy but I couldnt wait. So I upgraded. Now when gdm trys to run I get this error "/etc/xll/x is nto executable" but I have made it executable
[08:46] <tomaj> cafuego how do you mean maked as clean?
[08:46] <bob2> chrismy: "enabled"?  do you mean "How can I tell if I have the php4 mysql module installed and setup?"?
[08:46] <manish> how do i configure my gnome terminal to be a login shell?
[08:46] <cafuego> tomaj: Make sure it unmounts cleanly when Linux shuts down
[08:46] <Ice9> bob2, no because there's somebody with the same problem that hasn't been solved yet
[08:46] <giggsey> Is there an easy way to install GTK+ 2
[08:46] <bob2> Elsidox: that's a symlink, it's permissions don't matter
[08:46] <ekimus> manish: right click?
[08:46] <bob2> manish: look in their preferences menu
[08:46] <chrismy> bob2, i think so...i do not know the term what to call that :)
[08:46] <bob2> giggsey: install libgtk2.0-dev
[08:46] <cafuego> tomaj: if you hit reset, Linux would normally run fsck at bootup. If fsck NEEDS to be run, those windows utils will refuse to mount the partition.
[08:46] <tomaj> cafuego how do you ensure that? because when i shut down i get some didnt unmount error because some device was busy, not sure which device though so...
[08:46] <manish> jyes i read the INVOCATION section of bash shell - i just don't know how it get invoked from gdm
[08:46] <monoxide> cafuego, the boot up installer on the cd?
[08:46] <Elsidox> bob2: well im a newb to linux so could you explain to me? =)
[08:47] <ian> hello????
[08:47] <fluffybunny_> i'm having a problem with my help files - there don't seem to be any. Any time I click on Help in an application, either nothing happens, (or occasionally, I get error messages)
[08:47] <giggsey> bob2: so do it all from source?
[08:47] <ian> please help me..:(
[08:47] <bob2> chrismy: install php4-mysq. enjoy!
[08:47] <cafuego> tomaj: probably device 'none'
[08:47] <ekimus> manish: gdm does _NOT_ invoke bash
[08:47] <tomaj> cafuego oh ok so it just wont mount, well thats fine lol so long as it doesnt break it
[08:47] <bob2> Elsidox: reinstalling is the simplest soloution
[08:47] <ekimus> manish: gnome-terminal does that
[08:47] <tomaj> cafuego wtf is device none?
[08:47] <tomaj> lol
[08:47] <Elsidox> bob2: =( but than I wouldnt have breezy
[08:48] <giggsey> nvm bob2, I can get libgtk2.0-dev via apt-get
[08:48] <manish> ekimus:  ok.  do u know how i get gnome-terminal to call bash then?
[08:48] <ian> how do i put a short cut key menu of an application?
[08:48] <bob2> giggsey: yes
[08:48] <oceandead> you can get breezy .iso
[08:48] <Elsidox> bob2: I do know what a syslink is. I just dont know what to link.
[08:48] <bob2> Elsidox: yes, breezy is not ready for new users yet
[08:48] <ekimus> manish: no query please
[08:48] <Elsidox> oceandead: im out of blank disk
[08:48] <bob2> Elsidox: /usr/bin/X, I'd think
[08:49] <Elsidox> bob2: I would link that to what?
[08:49] <chrismy> bob2, i have done what was said in the ubuntu wiki. but i want to check whether or not MySQL is successfully setup
[08:49] <tomaj> booting to windows bbs
[08:49] <manish> ekimus:  what do u mean by no query please?  should i go read up on gnome-terminal to find that out?
[08:49] <ekimus> manish: right click in the gnome terminal and 'edit profile' (I'm not using english locales so I don't know the exact wording)
[08:49] <ekimus> manish: i mean do not message me
[08:50] <zoexi> hello
[08:50] <manish> ekimus:  is gnome-terminal the one that opens up after i login on the console, with gnome as the window manager?
[08:50] <Ice9> I'm doomed!
[08:50] <Elsidox> Ice9: your not the only one
[08:50] <zoexi> can anyone give me media player advice?
[08:50] <giggsey> xmms
[08:51] <giggsey> -_-
[08:51] <Hikaru79> zoexi, for video I reccomend vlc highly.
[08:51] <zoexi> totem doesn't work,
[08:51] <ekimus> manish: just to make clear do you use gdm to log in or the console? (because you were talking about gdm before)
[08:51] <zoexi> ok,
[08:51] <Elsidox> zoexi: for video id use gxine
[08:51] <giggsey> zoexi: get XMMS, its the winamp of linux
[08:51] <Hikaru79> zoexi, vlc has all codecs built into the player, so you don't need to bother with tracking down all those divx, xvid, etc
[08:51] <anacron> giggsey: isn't there a real winamp for linux :D
[08:51] <bob2> Elsidox: er? you link the broken symlink to that.
[08:51] <giggsey> there is?
[08:51] <ian> hello ppl...please help me..how do i put a short cut key menu of an application?
[08:51] <giggsey> I read something about an alpha
[08:51] <anacron> i think you can get it somehow
[08:51] <bob2> chrismy: you need to be a lot more specific
[08:52] <bob2> chrismy: are yo utalking about the php mysql module? the mysql server? somrthing else?
[08:52] <oceandead> <- xmms, vlc and player
[08:52] <bob2> ian: depends on the applicaton
[08:52] <anacron> ian: right click?
[08:52] <manish> ekimus:  i think it is gdm.  I am using run level 5, and have the graphic (X) login screen. not the text based one - where you loging and then startx.
[08:52] <Elsidox> bob2: im so confused I guess ill just reinstall and stick with hory. Thanks for trying thow. Peace.
[08:52] <oceandead> *mplayer
[08:53] <ian> bob2: like i always use a ftp client and i installed it...i always...used terminal to access..the gftp..i want to put it in the menu... how do put in the menu?
[08:53] <ekimus> manish: ok so the procedure is: log in. start a gnome terminal (Applications, System...) and edit the curent profile. then under "title and command" (something like that) "run as login shell"
[08:53] <giggsey> configure: WARNING: *** TIFF loader will not be built (TIFF library not found) ***
[08:53] <giggsey> meh
[08:54] <chrismy> bob2, seriously i do not know what 'term' you call that therefore i can't be accurate.
[08:54] <manish> ekimus: Thanks.  I will try that.  Thanks for your help.
[08:54] <zcat[1] > quam: I have ubuntu on a beige p3 .. how do I emulate the other two mouse buttons.. something in xorg.conf ?
[08:54] <bob2> chrismy: so, explain exactly what you're hopinh to acheieve
[08:55] <zoexi> does vlc come precompiled?
[08:55] <zoexi> or must Ibuild it?
[08:55] <zcat[1] > anyone?
[08:55] <bimberi> ian: iirc gtfp gets put into Applications -> Internet
[08:55] <ekimus> zoexi: ubuntu is a binary distro
[08:56] <kevor> zoexi: it's not gentoo :P
[08:56] <oceandead> heh
[08:56] <zoexi> I tried to find it with aptitude
[08:56] <desrt> in a debian/control file how do i specify a dependency on version 0.8.3-* of a package?
[08:56] <zoexi> didn't work
[08:56] <kevor> just do apt-get update; apt-cache search vlc
[08:56] <desrt> like 0.8.3-0ubuntu27 is ok, but 0.8.4 is not
[08:56] <bob2> desrt: you can't
[08:57] <desrt> !
[08:57] <ubotu> desrt: Are you smoking crack?
[08:57] <desrt> blimey!
[08:57] <ekimus> desrt: logicall >0.8.4 ?
[08:57] <ekimus> logically
[08:57] <desrt> no.  logically < 0.8.4
[08:57] <bob2> desrt: what are you trying to do?
[08:57] <chrismy> bob2, well i have several of this php/mysql tutorials. the php part is 'working' coz i see a list of 'something'(system info i pressume). well that is easy to check if php is 'working' by the test.php file as shown.  as for the mysql part is very tough
[08:57] <ian> bimberi: no... there is no short cut in gftp..after installing
[08:57] <ekimus> err damn :)
[08:57] <desrt> bob2; depend on a specific upstream version
[08:57] <ekimus> i just _hate_ those typos
[08:58] <desrt> bob2; ie: either the upstream package will be held back or my package uninstalled
[08:58] <bob2> chrismy: write a simple php script that access a mysql db
[08:58] <chrismy> bob2, ermmmm how?
[08:59] <bob2> why are you setting up php if you don't know how to use it?
[08:59] <chrismy> bob2, the tutorials say i need to setup the database this and that...and that makes me very confused
[08:59] <bob2> chrismy: anyway, install php4-mysql, then go to #php, I suppose
[08:59] <Tomaj> cafuego how does it work?
[08:59] <chrismy> bob2, i did install that
[09:00] <desrt> i assume you want to install php4-cgi too
[09:00] <chrismy> bob2, oh you mean the channel  ok
[09:00] <bob2> php4-cli now
[09:00] <yongzhi> anyone knows why does my vlc does not plays any sound but for other players it is working fine..
[09:00] <desrt> or even libapache2-mod-php4
[09:01] <desrt> ^ my personal fav
[09:01] <bob2> desrt: look at how other packages have done it
[09:01] <bob2> tho I can't find any examples now
[09:01] <bob2> if it's not in the debian new maintainer's guide, ask on the dev list
[09:01] <desrt> bob2; likewise -- which is why i ask :D
[09:01] <desrt> it's not.
[09:01] <desrt> i'll probably be able to find something
[09:02] <bob2> Depend foo > 0.8-1, Conflicts >0.8-999
[09:02] <bob2> or something
[09:02] <bob2> tho that's crap
[09:02] <monoxide> root@azriel:/home/matthew # mdadm --assemble --scan
[09:02] <monoxide> mdadm: error opening /dev/md0: No such file or directory
[09:02] <monoxide> the point is, i am trying to make /dev/md0.... can anyone help?
[09:02] <desrt> yes.  quite evil, that is.
[09:02] <bob2> no, you're not trying to make it
[09:02] <bob2> you're trying to load the right module, so udev makes it for you
[09:03] <monoxide> heh, and which module is that?
[09:03] <gilv> how to install kubuntu when i have ubuntut ?
 i'm trying to make it work
 LIES!
[09:03] <desrt> gilv; apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:03] <bob2> gilv: #kubuntu, install kubuntu-desktop
[09:04] <giggsey> How would I get libjpeg
[09:04] <giggsey> the site listed for it on freshmeat is down
[09:04] <giggsey> (has no content)
[09:04] <bob2> giggsey: what are you compiling?
[09:04] <giggsey> gtk2+
[09:04] <bob2> and why are you doing it in the most painful way possible?
[09:04] <giggsey> gtk+2*
[09:04] <bob2> giggsey: dude, wtf
[09:05] <bob2> gtk2 is in Ubuntu
[09:05] <giggsey> o_O?
[09:05] <bob2> and you already have it installed
[09:05] <giggsey> when I try to install the cleerlooks that uses the engine, it says that it can't find it
[09:05] <bob2> no
[09:05] <bob2> it says it can't find the headers
[09:05] <bob2> so, aptitude install libgtk2.0-dev
[09:05] <bob2> which I did tell you an hour ago
[09:06] <monoxide> bob2, which module do i want then? udev?
[09:06] <giggsey> you said apt-get install libgtk...
[09:06] <giggsey> which I did
[09:06] <bob2> monoxide: no
[09:06] <bob2> perhaps the md module
[09:06] <monoxide> i have
[09:07] <bob2> 16:46:28        giggsey |  Is there an easy way to install GTK+ 2
[09:07] <bob2> 16:46:49 @         bob2 | giggsey: install libgtk2.0-dev
[09:07] <bob2> 16:47:11        giggsey |  bob2: so do it all from source?
[09:07] <bob2> 16:48:06        giggsey |  nvm bob2, I can get libgtk2.0-dev via apt-get
[09:07] <bob2> 16:48:12 @         bob2 | giggsey: yes
[09:07] <zoexi> kevor,
[09:07] <monoxide> and the array is in the config file
[09:07] <giggsey> yeah
[09:07] <giggsey> bob2 so, aptitude install libgtk2.0-dev
[09:07] <zoexi> it doesn't work
[09:07] <bob2> giggsey: so, stop messing with the gtk source and explain what wasn't working after you installed that
[09:07] <zcat[1] > How do I right-click my one button mouse?!!
[09:07] <giggsey> nvm
[09:07] <giggsey> its working now
[09:07] <bob2> giggsey: oh, so you didn't install the package when I first suggested it?
[09:07] <giggsey> Yeah I did
[09:07] <bob2> zcat[1] : you need to use lots of punctuation
[09:07] <bob2> or else no one can answer you
[09:08] <kevor> "it doesnt work" zeoxi that is helping nothing
[09:08] <kevor> what is the output of apt-cache search vlc?
[09:08] <bob2> giggsey: also, dude, clearlooks is in ubuntu
[09:08] <giggsey> true
[09:08] <zcat[1] > anyone?
[09:08] <bob2> zcat[1] : presumably you tried f11 and f12?
[09:08] <giggsey> but the engine isn't
[09:08] <zcat[1] > no, I'll try..
[09:08] <oceandead> ah...
[09:08] <oceandead> oh nevermind
[09:08] <bob2> gtk2-engines-clearlooks - ClearLooks theme
[09:09] <bob2> giggsey: yes it is
[09:09] <giggsey> where
[09:09] <giggsey> lol
[09:09] <zcat[1] > AWESOM!!
[09:09] <kevor> zeoxi: apt-get install wxvlc
[09:09] <giggsey> in theme prefs
[09:09] <zcat[1] > that's all I needed. thanks!
[09:09] <kevor> or gnome-vlc
[09:09] <zcat[1] > (where is F11/F12 documented?)
[09:09] <bob2> it has nothing to do with "theme prefs"
[09:09] <kevor> or qvlc
[09:09] <monoxide> bob2, i have the md module active, and still nothing
[09:09] <bob2> monoxide: ok!
[09:10] <bob2> monoxide: which software raid howto are you reading?
[09:10] <monoxide> i couldnt find one on ubuntu.com
[09:10] <zoexi> ok, I have apt get troubles
[09:10] <bob2> so
[09:10] <monoxide> i set this all up in the installer and it didnt do it properly...
[09:10] <bob2> instead of using google
[09:10] <bob2> and finsding the howto
[09:10] <bob2> you spent an hour here?
[09:10] <c0rrupt__> finsdin
[09:11] <c0rrupt__>
[09:11] <kevor> zoexi: WHAT troubles
[09:11] <bob2> monoxide: read thw howto and make sure each step has already been correctly done
[09:12] <dubnium> anyone know how to solve an issue with xmms freezing when I open up a file?
[09:12] <bob2> dubnium: did you configure xmms to use esd?
[09:12] <c0rrupt__> alsa
[09:12] <kevor> zoexi: can't help you if you do not say what the output is when you run 'apt-get install gnome-vlc'
[09:12] <Doonz> anyone know why stream ripper would just close when im record a staion?
[09:12] <dubnium> bob2, I dont think so
[09:13] <bob2> dubnium: you'll need to do that then
[09:13] <bob2> Doonz: I've found mplayer to be a lot simpler
[09:13] <c0rrupt__> dubnium, my uses oss and it works fine,
[09:13] <dubnium> how does one go about esd config?
[09:13] <Doonz> mplayer records and splits the songs up like stream ripper does?
[09:13] <kevor> zoexi: don't pm me, but that's better, seems u need to go to /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:13] <dubnium> oss?
[09:13] <c0rrupt__> yea
[09:13] <bob2> Doonz: nope
[09:13] <topyli> Doonz: no, it's just a player
[09:13] <c0rrupt__> open xmms
[09:13] <dubnium> I dunno what it is
[09:13] <c0rrupt__> hit ctrl+p
[09:13] <bob2> dubnium: right click, preferences, output
[09:13] <Setite> kaffeine!!!!
[09:14] <c0rrupt__> then look at output plugin
[09:14] <Doonz> yeah i was specifically referring to the recording part
[09:14] <kevor> (nano /etc/apt/sources.list) and remove the # 's in front of deb www.*
[09:14] <c0rrupt__> tell me what is says
[09:14] <dubnium> oss is selected
[09:14] <zoexi> pm?
[09:14] <kevor> zoexi: then do apt-get update and then apt-get install gnome-vlc
[09:14] <c0rrupt__> try alsa
[09:14] <thoreauputic> Doonz: something like mplayer --streamdump  IIRC
[09:14] <zoexi> it says package not found
[09:14] <kevor> yes i know that
[09:14] <kevor> read back what i said
[09:15] <Doonz> yeah that will just record the whole stream into 1 big ass file tho right?
[09:15] <dubnium> hmmm alsa givs the sound card trouble
[09:15] <oceandead> use an editor to split it up maybe?
[09:15] <c0rrupt__> hmm
[09:15] <c0rrupt__> you can only run 1 sound ap at a time
[09:15] <c0rrupt__> is there something else running using sound?
[09:15] <thoreauputic> Doonz: I think so - I prefer to use streamripper
[09:15] <dubnium> not at all
[09:15] <c0rrupt__> Hm
[09:15] <bob2> dubnium: as I said, esd is what you want
[09:16] <zcat[1] > mplayer -ao pcm -file=something.wav
[09:16] <Doonz> yeah but the terminal part when recording just closes for no reason
[09:16] <dubnium> how do I go about esd?
[09:16] <c0rrupt__> select it
[09:16] <c0rrupt__> in output plugins
[09:16] <dubnium> wonderful.. thanx fellas
[09:16] <c0rrupt__> works?
[09:16] <dubnium> sure does
[09:16] <zoexi> still says "Reading package lists... Done
[09:16] <zoexi> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:16] <zoexi> E: Couldn't find package gnome-vlc
[09:16] <zoexi> "
[09:16] <c0rrupt__> thanks bob2..
[09:16] <dubnium> this new laptop is getting better
[09:16] <itay> I got an error while configuring: "Fatal - can't find OpenGL Libraries - Stopping here."
[09:16] <c0rrupt__> thank*
[09:17] <itay> what should I install?
[09:17] <zcat[1] > brb; gonna see if i can use irc in yasr :-)
[09:17] <jimd> I have a question about the LiveCD; is there an LTSP or terminal server module for it?
[09:17] <kevor> zoexi: did you 'nano /etc/apt/sources.list' ? and remvoed the # in front of the repositories?
[09:18] <kevor> hoary universe needs to be un#-ed
[09:18] <zoexi> I try that now ...
[09:18] <dubnium> I do have another question though.... is there support for built in card readers?
[09:18] <dubnium> havent  found much on the forums..
[09:19] <zoexi> shoud I enable all of them?
[09:20] <bob2> dubnium: readers of what?
[09:20] <dubnium> card readers... its a 6-in-1
[09:20] <kevor> zeoxi: you can, but don't install everything you see
[09:20] <dubnium> digital media
[09:20] <bob2> dubnium: depends on the laptop model then
[09:20] <zcat[1] > hmm, almost useable in epic4 -d'
[09:20] <dubnium> this is true
[09:21] <dubnium> i read there may not be support in the kernel...
[09:21] <kevor> zoexi: make sure you save, you can only save as root
[09:21] <zoexi> yeah, i got that wrong the first time
[09:22] <kevor> :P
[09:22] <zoexi> i think it might work now
[09:22] <kevor> ok, now go for it :P 'apt-get update'
[09:22] <zoexi> does aptitude use the same list?
[09:22] <zoexi> cause i like it better
[09:22] <kevor> yes, synaptic too, they are both frontends for the apt-get
[09:22] <zcat[1] > should so
[09:23] <kevor> for now zoexi, just run 'apt-get update ; apt-get install gnome-vlc'
[09:23] <kevor> i like wxvlc better, but that's personal
[09:23] <zcat[1] > synaptic is too nice; I end up installing bunckes of crap just 'cos it's soo easy to tick everything that looks like it might be fun to play with..
[09:23] <zoexi> yeah, it's working, awesome
[09:23] <zoexi> thanks
[09:23] <kevor> whohoho i helped \o/
[09:23] <kevor> ;) np
[09:24] <Orborde> How do I change the system name?
[09:24] <Doonz> hey does ubuntu have like a host file??
[09:24] <nightswim> /etc/hostname
[09:24] <cafuego> Doonz: No.
[09:24] <kevor> hostname [name]
[09:24] <nightswim> /etc/hosts
[09:25] <cafuego> Doonz: it DOES hoever have an ACTUAL host file.
[09:25] <kevor> Orborde: hostname [name]
[09:26] <Doonz> doe i have to reload that file?
[09:26] <cafuego> Doonz: nope
[09:26] <Doonz> kool
[09:26] <cafuego> Doonz: changes take effect immediately. Note that dnsutils tools like 'host' do NOT use it.
[09:27] <Doonz> k well it fixed my problem thanx guys
[09:27] <pello> hi
[09:27] <pello> just installed ubuntu
[09:27] <eliUbuntu> anyone know of a program that allows you to watch a movie and load a subtitle file to go along with it?
[09:27] <pello> how can i login as root
[09:27] <eliUbuntu> something like bsplayer in windows?
[09:27] <Chousuke> pello: use sudo -s
[09:28] <dubnium> pello, great isnt it?
[09:28] <sn0n> hey all
[09:28] <pello> very nice
[09:28] <LMX> eliUbuntu, mplayer or xine
[09:28] <Chousuke> !sudo
[09:28] <ubotu> somebody said sudo was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:28] <eliUbuntu> how do you load a subtitle into xine? i see that you can see subtitles if you're playing a dvd film. im loading a divx film
[09:29] <eliUbuntu> would that make difference?
[09:29] <i4> can someone explain to me how how to fix this error? The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:29] <i4>   gstreamer0.8-lame: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[09:29] <dubnium> yesterday i installed kubuntu-amd64, what a mess so know im running hoary-i386
[09:30] <dubnium> like gnome mucher better
[09:30] <i4> me too.
[09:30] <thoreauputic> i4: you're using 3rd party repositories, aren't you ?
[09:30] <i4> thoreauputic: some
[09:30] <thoreauputic> i4: therein lies your problem
[09:31] <giggsey> I've added a launcher to the desktop, however, it needs sudo to run, so I've added that, but when I run it, a terminal pops up asking for the sudo password, how would I get around that?
[09:31] <gilv> where can i find a page to install all necessary packages to be able to play avi videos, realplayer radio, dvds.... ?
[09:31] <Orborde> kevor, Thanks.
[09:31] <dubnium> hmmm what to config next, anyone get bluetooth working with a pda?
[09:31] <LMX> eliUbuntu, i dont have xine installed installed atm, and i dont remeber, but i think theres something like open->subtitle in the menu
[09:32] <eliUbuntu> LMX thanks for your help. i will look into it
[09:32] <LMX> no problem :)
[09:35] <Madpilot> !tell gilv about restricted
[09:35] <Madpilot> gilv: follow the URL ubotu just sent you
[09:35] <setite> yay! autohinting makes my eyes happy
[09:36] <zoexi> hey again,
[09:36] <zoexi> dvd video is choppy,
[09:37] <zoexi> any suggestions?
[09:37] <Madpilot> zoexi: got DMA enabled?
[09:37] <Madpilot> !dma
[09:37] <Madpilot> !+dma
[09:37] <ubotu> dma is probably Direct Memory Access/Addressing. A method of transferring data from one memory area to another without having to go through the central processing unit. It makes your hard disks run faster :-).  DMA from the ubuntu wiki guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DMA
[09:37] <zoexi> how do I know?
[09:37] <Madpilot> zoexi: check that URL, it'll show you
[09:38] <Madpilot> show you how to check, that is...
[09:39] <i4> does ubuntu play .m4a files?
[09:40] <giggsey> does anyone know an answer to my problem?
[09:40] <puskom_cari> is a dos emulator include in ubuntu cd's
[09:42] <omp342> how can i install a mouse theme
[09:43] <jimd> I have a question about the LiveCD; is there an LTSP or terminal server module for it?
[09:43] <Madpilot> puskom_cari: dosbox is in ubuntu's repos, I don't think it's installed by default though
[09:44] <Madpilot> omp342: I think "gcursor" is what you want - it's in the repos, have a look in Synaptic...
[09:45] <giggsey> !xmms
[09:45] <ubotu> giggsey: Wish i knew
[09:45] <giggsey> -_-
[09:46] <giggsey> umm, i've got to manually set my root password
[09:46] <giggsey> whats the file that stores them
[09:46] <giggsey> /etc/shadow?
[09:46] <Madpilot> giggsey: you do know that there's no root by default in Ubuntu?
[09:46] <giggsey> no root account...
[09:46] <eliUbuntu> LMX it worked. you just have to have the subtitle file the same name as the movie file
[09:46] <Madpilot> Ubuntu encourages sudo instead
[09:46] <Madpilot> !sudo
[09:46] <ubotu> I guess sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:46] <giggsey> but I need to get into some admin sections to edit
[09:47] <Madpilot> giggsey: see ubotu ^^^
[09:47] <omp342> Madpilot: thanks :D
[09:47] <LMX> eliUbuntu, okey :>
[09:47] <eliUbuntu> thanks
[09:47] <Madpilot> omp342: no problem
[09:47] <jimd> !LTSP
[09:47] <ubotu> jimd: I haven't a clue
[09:47] <jimd> !terminal server
[09:47] <ubotu> jimd: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:48] <giggsey> thanks Madpilot
[09:48] <zoexi> hey,
[09:48] <omp342> do you guys think it would be a bad idea to switch to gentoo
[09:49] <zoexi> looks much better
[09:49] <zoexi> thanks
[09:49] <thoreauputic> omp342: yes ;-)
[09:49] <omp342> ive heard a lot of good things about gentoo, but i heard its unsecure unless you make it secure yourself
[09:49] <Madpilot> omp342: this is #ubuntu, we're not exactly impartial... ;)
[09:49] <omp342> =]
[09:49] <kevor> zoexi: what looks much better
[09:50] <hondje> gentoo hardened is the shit, but gentoo makes a lousy desktop distro in my book
[09:50] <kevor> get one..
[09:50] <Madpilot> !themes
[09:50] <ubotu> methinks themes is at http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[09:50] <Chousuke> omp342: Do you want to compile all your programs?
[09:50] <Madpilot> giggsey: ubotu to the rescue ^^^
[09:50] <omp342> i don't even know how to :D
[09:50] <omp342> lol
[09:50] <Chousuke> omp342: Then gentoo is not for you.
[09:50] <omp342> so i assume i should stay with ubuntu
[09:50] <omp342> :)
[09:50] <omp342> yah
[09:51] <Chousuke> gentoo spends a lot of time compiling.
[09:51] <omp342> the only problem is
[09:51] <omp342> i've been having trouble
[09:51] <omp342> getting wine to work
[09:51] <kevor> well, emerge $packet is n't much different from apt-get install $packet
[09:51] <osfa> yar, me too
[09:51] <Chousuke> kevor: except it takes a lot longer.
[09:51] <hondje> on the surface
[09:51] <kevor> true :)
[09:51] <osfa> wine 20050725 appears to be completely borken on ubuntu
[09:51] <hondje> they both have their good points
[09:51] <osfa> at least, in that winetools can't do the config
[09:51] <kevor> Chousuke: portage has a bigger DB pf programs
[09:51] <kevor> of*
[09:51] <Chousuke> not really.
[09:52] <Chousuke> not officially at least.
[09:52] <kevor> COM isn't in the repository :P
[09:52] <kevor> MOC
[09:52] <kevor> :P
[09:52] <Chousuke> and there's craploads of unofficial .debs too
[09:52] <kevor> of ubuntu, it is in emerge :P
[09:52] <hondje> yeah
[09:52] <hondje> lot of commercial packages come in rpm and deb
[09:52] <Madpilot> there's 16,000+ things in Ubuntu's repos. how much crap does any one computer really need? ;)
[09:52] <Chousuke> even if you can download a 2Mb source package in 2 seconds with your T1, you'll still have to wait a couple minutes for it to compile.
[09:52] <giggsey> !icons
[09:52] <ubotu> giggsey: Bugger all, i dunno
[09:52] <giggsey> pfft
[09:53] <kevor> yes, but what about deps, Ubuntu has all stable (means old) versions :)
[09:53] <Madpilot> giggsey: most of those theme sites have icon themes as well
[09:53] <kevor> so most .debs are not installable becuzza deps problems
[09:53] <hondje> um
[09:53] <hondje> that has nothing to do with 'old' versions
[09:53] <kevor> but that's what makes ubuntu this great, it just works. but not great if you wanna test bleeding edge software
[09:53] <lennart_> how does linux handel floppys? I want to copy files to a floppy. Gnome mount's it and I can see the content in nautilus. But when I copy a file to the floppy it dont end up "ON" the floppy. It end up in the mount point directory on the harddrive. What can I do to change this?
[09:53] <hondje> that has to do with hoary diverging from debian more than expected
[09:53] <srbaker> does anyone here have a *working* sources.list line for hoary-extras?
[09:54] <kevor> mount /dev/floppy :P
[09:54] <giggsey> I know Madpilot, I just want to instal one, lol
[09:54] <thoreauputic> srbaker: sure
[09:54] <hondje> lennart_: that's on the floppy
[09:54] <eliUbuntu> anyone here using e17?
[09:54] <srbaker> thoreauputic, please and thank you :)
[09:54] <hondje> umount it and you'll see it's still on it if you try again
[09:54] <lennart_> hondje, ....files
[09:54] <Madpilot> srbaker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto  <-- bottom of this page
[09:55] <c0rrupt__> !hax
[09:55] <ubotu> c0rrupt__: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:55] <Madpilot> works for me, anyway
[09:55] <thoreauputic> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse
[09:55] <thoreauputic>  restricted
[09:55] <hondje> cp foo /media/floppy copies foo to the floppy (assuming that's your mount pnt)
[09:55] <kevor> lennart_: mount /dev/fd0
[09:55] <thoreauputic> srbaker: hmm - restricted on the same line of course
[09:55] <srbaker> thank you
[09:56] <c0rrupt__> mmm
[09:56] <kevor> lennart_: or else it will not be mounted, and the /media/floppy is just an empty shell
[09:56] <c0rrupt__> my ding ding dong
[09:56] <hondje> kevor: he said it automounts fine
[09:56] <kevor> floppies don't automount :)
[09:56] <hondje> no, hotplug does the voodoo, but it's the same thing to the user
[09:56] <i4> does anybody know about or have any links to dramatic gnome-dektop changes?
[09:56] <hondje> well, gnome adds voodoo too
[09:57] <kevor> gnome-volume-manager does not check for floppies :)
[09:57] <hondje> then how did I get it to do it for me?
[09:57] <kevor> hotplug prolly :)
[09:57] <co-fanky> hy
[09:58] <puskom_cari> i've extract xpde in my cd and i wann to install it to my computers how can i do that
[09:58] <owtput> good evening gents
[09:58] <omp342> if i changed my cursor, would i need to log out and in for it to take effect?
[09:58] <thoreauputic> omp342: yes, I expect you need to restart x, so logging out/in would do it
[09:58] <Madpilot> hmmm... my floppy drive just "automounts" - and I know I haven't written anything odd to make it happen...
[09:59] <srbaker> does gstreamer use /usr/lib/win32/ codecs?
[09:59] <omp342> okay
[09:59] <omp342> that means ill brb
[09:59] <kevor> Madpilot: you mean it just starts reading when you plug it in?
[09:59] <thoreauputic> srbaker: no
[09:59] <srbaker> damn
[09:59] <djoek> hi everyone
[09:59] <owtput> run irssi in a screen session
[09:59] <thoreauputic> srbaker: you need totem-xine or similar
[09:59] <hondje> That makes two of us
[09:59] <thoreauputic> srbaker: or mplayer
[09:59] <zoexi> hi again
[09:59] <srbaker> thoreauputic, yeah, getting now.
[09:59] <kevor> hi zoexi
[10:00] <zoexi> i get no audio from vlc,
[10:00] <giggsey> How would I add like applet things to my desktop, like clock/calender etc.
[10:00] <djoek> who's up for some should-work-but-doesn't oddness ?
[10:00] <kevor> zoexi: select the right output plugin in the Preferences
[10:00] <Madpilot> kevor: pretty sure. I've used about two floppies in the four months I've used Ubuntu, but they've both "just worked"...
[10:00] <puskom_cari> how to install xpde from cd
[10:00] <srbaker> i'm not getting any sound in totem
[10:00] <lennart_> how do I mount a floppy so the all users (not just root) can remove/write files
[10:00] <srbaker> anyone else having this problem?
[10:00] <srbaker> trying to play an avi
[10:01] <kevor> ok... well i added some code to my g-v-m, never found a floppy part :P but then again, i do'nt have floppies :D
[10:01] <lennart_> that
[10:01] <kevor> or a drive for that matter
[10:01] <Madpilot> srbaker: assume you've got codecs installed?
[10:01] <Madpilot> !avi
[10:01] <ubotu> Madpilot: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:01] <Madpilot> !mp3
[10:01] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[10:01] <srbaker> Madpilot, yeah.  the video plays fine.  just no sound in totem
[10:01] <giggsey> How would I add like applet things to my desktop, like clock/calender etc.???????
[10:01] <hondje> giggsey: look into gdesklets
[10:01] <lennart_> ls
[10:01] <zoexi> linux oss?
[10:02] <giggsey> thanks hondje
[10:02] <srbaker> sound works fine otherwise.  just not in xine
[10:02] <srbaker> sigh
[10:02] <kevor> zoexi: try a little, see what works :P
[10:03] <omp342> when i press backspace when theres no more stuff to delete in terminal my computer makes a beep noise
[10:03] <omp342> can i turn that off
[10:03] <kevor> The biggest downside on Linux is the audio.. cards not supported, volume on 0 by default, ALSA OSS ESD; it's all so unclear and confusing
[10:03] <kevor> yes omp342 pull out the speakercable from ur mobo
[10:04] <kevor> or put "Speaker" on 0 in alsamixer
[10:04] <hondje> last -adn15
[10:04] <thoreauputic> kevor: a bit drastic when gnome-terminal has an option to silence beeps ;)
[10:04] <Chousuke> kevor: there's a good reason for volume to be on 0 by default
[10:04] <hondje> bah
[10:04] <Chousuke> kevor: it prevents accidental aural damage.
[10:04] <srbaker> anyone have any suggestions about why sound doesn't work in totem for avis/
[10:05] <srbaker> ?
[10:05] <srbaker> works everywhere else
[10:05] <n1xt3r> omp342: set bell-style visible in your .inputrc
[10:05] <Chousuke> unsupported sound codec.
[10:05] <srbaker> Chousuke, that's not it
[10:05] <Chousuke> srbaker: Are you sure?
[10:06] <Rebs> how do you extract from an exe?
[10:06] <thoreauputic> srbaker: do you get sound with other formats?
[10:06] <srbaker> Chousuke, positive
[10:06] <djoek> i have a creative webcam go plus, it registers as a usb device, i can load the ov511 driver and the cpia_usb too, everything works, yet nothing shows up in /proc/cpia. ideas?
[10:06] <srbaker> thoreauputic, i don't ahve any other formats to test
[10:06] <thoreauputic> Rebs: exe??
[10:06] <Chousuke> srbaker: .avi is not even a format.
[10:06] <Rebs> yea tryna get some inf fiels out of an exe for my bcmwl5 for ndiswrapper
[10:06] <thoreauputic> right, avi is a container
[10:06] <Rebs> files* too
[10:06] <omp342> nlxt3r: can you tell me what to do in more detail. i just installed ubuntu today
[10:06] <Chousuke> srbaker: does the sound work with other players?
[10:06] <srbaker> Chousuke, i don't need to get into a semantic argument.
[10:06] <Chousuke> with the same files.
[10:06] <srbaker> Chousuke, no.  sound does not work in totem at all
[10:07] <srbaker> yes.  there is sound in these files
[10:07] <Chousuke> hmm.
[10:07] <srbaker> i was watching them on my debian installation on the same box today
[10:07] <Chousuke> it might be using some sound driver that isn't working. like ESD, and you have ESD disabled or something.
[10:07] <thoreauputic> srbaker: do you have any ogg files or mp3s ? You can play those with totem to test sound...
[10:07] <srbaker> right.  i have no idea how to config xine
[10:07] <Rebs> anybody know how to extractr files from an *.exe?
[10:08] <srbaker> thoreauputic, sound works!
[10:08] <srbaker> thoreauputic, i'm getting sounds
[10:08] <srbaker> just not in totem
[10:08] <Chousuke> srbaker: it's probably an unsupported codec.
[10:08] <Chousuke> :P
[10:08] <srbaker> Chousuke, it's *NOT*
[10:08] <Chousuke> totem supports different things than other players.
[10:08] <kevor> srbaker: isn't totem-xine the solution to that?
[10:08] <srbaker> aha, i fixed it
[10:08] <Madpilot> not all .avi files are created equal, I think...
[10:08] <thoreauputic> srbaker: could be an esd problem, of course (/me hates esd)
[10:09] <hondje> esd goes bye bye in 2.12
[10:09] <srbaker> no, for some reason, totem-xine wants gstreamer0.8-mad.  what the hell?
[10:09] <n1xt3r> omp342: inside terminal: cd; echo "set bell-style visible" >.inputrc
[10:09] <omp342> okay
[10:09] <omp342> thanks
[10:09] <thoreauputic> srbaker: erm.... totem-xine uses the xine engine - that's weird...
[10:10] <Chousuke> hondje: Yay
[10:10] <omp342> do i just do that, or should i do sudo -i first?
[10:10] <kevor> omp342: no, for the user you want it to be for
[10:10] <srbaker> yeah, no shit
[10:11] <omp342> ok
[10:11] <kevor> omp342: if you want root-terminals to do it also, login as root; cd ; echo "set blabla"
[10:11] <omp342> hmm do i have to log out and in for it to take effect?
[10:11] <Chousuke> uh.
[10:11] <Chousuke> I wonder if it is sane to use > for the redirecion
[10:11] <Chousuke> +t
[10:11] <Chousuke> it overwrites any existing content.
[10:12] <Chousuke> use >> to append.
[10:12] <omp342> brb
[10:12] <LMX> is there any way to change default port in gnome-bittorrent?
[10:13] <kevor> hmm Chousuke using > isn't smart idd :)
[10:13] <kevor> echo "repossieline" > /etc/apt/src.list
[10:13] <kevor> :P
[10:14] <kevor> *fuckt*
[10:14] <thoreauputic> kevor: no such file or directory - fortunately
[10:14] <Chousuke> ould fail without sudo anyway
[10:14] <Chousuke> would*
[10:14] <kevor> yeh, did that on purpose so nobody could mimic me, trying to see what it'd do
[10:14] <azriel0184> can someone explain this to me: /dev/md0              276G  2.7G  259G   2% /home
[10:14] <azriel0184>  259+2.7 = 262GB. what happened to the other 4GB?
[10:15] <omp342> it worked :D
[10:15] <thoreauputic> also would need to be piped through sudo tee in fact
[10:15] <omp342> it doesn't make the noise anymore
[10:15] <omp342> you guys are so helpful :)
[10:15] <kevor> 5% is used for administrative thingies on ext3
[10:16] <azriel0184> aah,m of course... i should have known that... but its not enough to show up on my other harddrives :)
[10:18] <omp342> is there a way to get the fonts in websites to look like it does in windows?
[10:19] <omp342> i already have msttcorefonts installed
[10:20] <thoreauputic> omp342: maybe websites coded for IE ? dunno
[10:20] <Madpilot> omp342: you can probably change which fonts FF uses to display; I know I can change that in Opera
[10:21] <LinuxDolt> i'm having trouble getting printer sharing with windows working
[10:21] <omp342> well i use both firefox in windows and ubuntu
[10:21] <omp342> hmm
[10:22] <omp342> does anyone know the defualt font for firefox
[10:22] <omp342> in windows
[10:22] <zoexi> ok,
[10:22] <Madpilot> omp342: probably Times New Roman for normal serifed text, but that's just a guess. You should be able to check in FF's configs somewhere
[10:22] <zoexi> xmms is now broken
[10:23] <gsuveg> re
[10:23] <zoexi> it won't even open
[10:23] <omp342> times new roman is definately not the web browsing font in windows
[10:23] <omp342> that would look horrible
[10:23] <thoreauputic> omp342: have a look in edit- prefs - general - fonts & colours
[10:23] <LinuxDolt> xmms has always been broken, switch to beep already ;)
[10:23] <thoreauputic> in FF
[10:23] <kevor> zoexi: it might be crashed somewhere in the background, just run killal -9 xmms
[10:23] <omp342> yah im looking, but i dont know what to set it to
[10:23] <kevor> killall -9 xmms
[10:23] <omp342> =/
[10:23] <omp342> btw should i turn Subpixel Smoothing on
[10:23] <omp342> if im using a LCD monitor
[10:24] <Madpilot> I need to sleep this beer off - good night, all
[10:24] <thoreauputic> omp342: yes, for LCD it should be on I think
[10:24] <omp342> ok its on now :)
[10:24] <zoexi> whoa, magic
[10:24] <gsuveg> anybody know a icewm sdeb ?
[10:24] <zoexi> what does the -9 flag mean?
[10:24] <LinuxDolt> it's not a flag
[10:25] <LinuxDolt> read the manpage
[10:25] <LinuxDolt> it tells killall what kind of kill to send the program
[10:25] <thoreauputic> zoexi: kill uses various signals like -9 and -15
[10:26] <kevor> use -3 if you want to exit the program normally
[10:26] <kevor> without destroying non-saved info
[10:26] <zoexi> I see
[10:26] <cse_> Hey all.. I'm having trouble with my apache and samba.. I have set ports 22,135-139, and 80 to my linux box and I can see it from other computers using the router but I can't see it remotely from the internet. Any ideas?
[10:26] <kevor> kill -l gives a list of numbers :)
[10:27] <cse_> ssh works, but http and the samba ports show up as stealth
[10:28] <zoexi> ok, xmms crashes when i try to play mp3,
[10:28] <LinuxDolt> so, has anyone figured out how to share a printer out in samba from ubuntu?  i keep looking through the forums, wiki, and various online sources, but they all amount to saying it's easier than it's being for me
[10:28] <omp342> how can i add a shortcut to my home folder onto my desktop? :)
[10:28] <thoreauputic> cse_: do you have a webserver running? The port won't be availble unless a service is running...
[10:28] <zoexi> cd audio works fine,
[10:28] <osfa> omp342, Places->Home Folder ?
[10:28] <cse_> thoreauputic, yes, the internal computers 192.168* can see it
[10:28] <cse_> thoreauputic, I'm thinking its my router.. damned thing
[10:29] <omp342> i mean i want to add a shortcut to the actual desktop background thing
[10:29] <omp342> not have to use the menu all the time
[10:29] <thoreauputic> cse_: ah - have you forwarded the ports?
[10:29] <cse_> I tried running that hacked firmware on my WRT54G and i borked it! heh back to the linksys firewall
[10:29] <cse_> Yeah, I have.. I'm going to try to disable its 'firewall', one sec
[10:30] <thoreauputic> omp342: make a launcher with the command nautilus /home/omp342
[10:30] <thoreauputic> or whatever your user name is...
[10:30] <cse_> thoreauputic, nope, still doesn't work.. any ideas? Ports are forwarded, I know this for sure.
[10:31] <kevor> LinuxDolt: has Bmp the same shortcuts as xmms?
[10:31] <LinuxDolt> kevor: shortcuts?
[10:31] <kevor> like "J" to search for a song
[10:31] <kevor> Q to queue
[10:31] <thoreauputic> cse_: hmm - are you using a firewall/iptables on the box running the servers?
[10:31] <cse_> thoreauputic, nope
[10:32] <omp342> ok thanks thoreauputic
[10:32] <LinuxDolt> it doesn't have a built-in search, you have to get a plugin.  last i knew xmms needed a plugin too
[10:32] <thoreauputic> cse_: running out of ideas here ... ;)
[10:32] <kevor> nope :)
[10:32] <ompaul> I hate this: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? <<== because, it is really should say check to see if you have another process using it, it already identified that the lock file was unavailable, gha :)
[10:33] <cse_> thoreauputic, hrmm.. do ISPs actively filter port 80?
[10:33] <osfa> omp342, I think you can also set a shortcut key to open your home folder
[10:33] <thoreauputic> cse_: oh, yes - often
[10:33] <kevor> what's the packet called in the ubuntu repossies?
[10:33] <ompaul> cse_, some do some don't :-)
[10:33] <LinuxDolt> kevor: is xmms gtk2 yet?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> cse_: and 139 etc (samba)
[10:33] <kevor> nope, gtk still
[10:33] <Nermal> LinuxDolt, no.. use beep-media-player
[10:33] <Nermal> gtk2 port of xmms
[10:34] <cse_> grr, exactly the ports I wanted to use
[10:34] <LinuxDolt> it's not a port, it's a fork, and i already use it
[10:34] <Nermal> pendantic asshole
[10:34] <LinuxDolt> it's got a few other differences from xmms now
[10:34] <Nermal> urgh
[10:35] <Sly> hey all, been a while since i been sat at my ubuntu desktop, damn how ive missed it =D
[10:37] <kevor> ah man, beep -l 9999999 -f 10000 will get you REALLY crazy :)
[10:37] <Sly> lmao
[10:38] <kevor> or make it run @ 15000 just on the edge of what you can hear
[10:38] <Determinist> ls
[10:38] <Determinist> erm
[10:38] <kevor> automatically when you install someones pc :P
[10:38] <Determinist> oops
[10:38] <Sly> sorry linux dolt i personally cant help you :)
[10:38] <dubnium> hell ya.. got a bluetooth sync working with my clie
[10:38] <Determinist> cursed irssi , looks like a damned terminal lol
[10:39] <thoreauputic> Determinist: because it runs in one, yes ;)
[10:39] <Determinist> thoreauputic: :P
[10:39] <thoreauputic> Determinist: get a colourful theme ;)
[10:42] <Sly> damn realy has been a while. whats the other name that ocmpanies nvida-glx ............. nvidia-glx-config
[10:42] <Sly> or somthin along them lines
[10:43] <owtput> hi guys, is there an allocated-"dump" channel for ubuntu ircers?
[10:43] <LinuxDolt> nvidia-common or something like that i think
[10:43] <owtput> and are any of you on the chan atm?
[10:43] <LinuxDolt> read the topic, it's a web page
[10:44] <ompaul> !tell owtput about pastebin
[10:44] <owtput> pedantic
[10:44] <owtput> ta, ompaul
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> wha
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> 32 gig
[10:45] <kevor> LinuxDolt: thank you for giving me BMP.. now i gotta reprogram g-v-m, hardcoded the commands runned when inserting cd's in there :(
[10:45] <owtput> Doonz: stop or you'll go blind
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> might as well do dd
[10:45] <Doonz> i kno
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> lol
[10:45] <wickedpuppy> what is it btw ... all the songs of elvis ?
[10:46] <LinuxDolt> kevor: haha.  i didn't TELL you to use it, just said it's what i use
[10:46] <owtput> sorry, i have one line to paste:
[10:46] <owtput> trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/gamma_dri.so', which is also in package xlibmesa-dri
[10:46] <Sly> Sighs restart x
[10:46] <kevor> :'(
[10:46] <kevor> it's your fault, now die :P
[10:46] <owtput> this is upon upgrading libgl1-xorg-dri
[10:46] <kevor> it's a lot slower though, don't think i'm gonna use it
[10:46] <kevor> a LOT slower
[10:46] <LinuxDolt> what's your system specs?
[10:46] <pitti> kevor: what do you want to change in g-v-m?
[10:46] <kevor> this is just a mediaPC
[10:47] <kevor> www.kev0r.nl/upload/code
[10:47] <Doonz> naw simpsons
[10:47] <kevor> hardcored a popupscreen that gives you options on what to do with the removable media
[10:47] <pitti> kevor: the CD commands are not hardcoded, you can change them in system->preferences->removable media
[10:47] <kevor> i know, but i needed USB options and CDrom with data
[10:48] <kevor> gnome-volume-properties does not give me enough
[10:48] <kevor> plus i wanted users to choose what to do with the mp3's on the disk
[10:50] <zoexi> does anyone know things about sound sinks?
[10:51] <Sly> frozen-bubble !
[10:51] <kevor> Sly: apt-get chromium
[10:51] <kevor> it's nice too :P
[10:51] <zoexi> er, audio sinks?
[10:52] <kemik> should it really take 1-2 minutes to mount a NFS share?
[10:52] <Sly> isnt that some shotting game ?
[10:52] <kevor> yes
[10:52] <Ng> kevor: no
[10:52] <nightswim> kemik: no, you miss a running daemon
[10:52] <Sly> consider it apt-getd already
[10:52] <kevor> Ng what no
[10:52] <kemik> nightswim:  on the client?
[10:53] <Sly> i only install frozen-bubble to keep the girlfriend happ
[10:53] <Sly> y
[10:53] <Ng> kevor: an NFS share should mount pretty quickly. how are you mounting it? can you ping the server? are there any firewalls in the way? and do you have portmap installed? :)
[10:53] <kevor> ey f-u, i'm not mounting anyting
[10:53] <Sly> wow i lik eit
[10:53] <Zaphod> hi all.
[10:53] <kevor> i know you would Sly
[10:53] <Zaphod> I am having a problem...
[10:54] <Zaphod> I just installed UBUNTU, and the only resolution I can get is 640x480
[10:54] <kevor> idd, could not find an r-type like game
[10:54] <Ng> kevor: sorry, I meant kemik ;)
[10:54] <kevor> :P
[10:54] <Zaphod> how do I get more resolution options?
[10:54] <omp342> am i stupid if i have trouble installing wine?
[10:54] <omp342> :D
[10:54] <Ng> get less almost identical nicks! ;)
[10:54] <thoreauputic> !fixres
[10:54] <ubotu> fixres is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:54] <kemik> hehe
[10:54] <kemik> ke-tabcompletion ;)
[10:54] <kevor> ubotu is cute :)
[10:54] <ubotu> kevor: Syntax error in line 1
[10:54] <Zaphod> thanks
[10:54] <poningru> ubotu is lame
[10:54] <ubotu> poningru: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> !good bot
[10:55] <ubotu> thanks thoreauputic :)
[10:55] <kevor> ubotu: for ((;;));/msg #ubuntu I r cute;done
[10:55] <ubotu> kevor: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:55] <kemik> Ng: the box that got the mounts is acting NAT/Firewall so i've disabled ping (even from inside the network) but everything else is fine so the FW isnt "in the way"
[10:55] <kevor> ubotu: talking shit ey?
[10:55] <ubotu> I don't know, kevor
[10:55] <hubsi> back in business
[10:55] <kemik> Ng:  i dont run portmap on the client
[10:56] <kevor> ubotu: you should know
[10:56] <ubotu> kevor: Do they come in packets of five?
[10:56] <kevor> ubotu: no ffs, now shuttup
[10:56] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, kevor
[10:56] <LinuxDolt> lol
[10:56] <Ng> kemik: you may well want to install nfs-common
[10:56] <Zaphod> another question... When I installed, it never asked for a root password?
[10:56] <cse_> Well, I got the word from my ISP. They block web and samba.. I know how to change apache's port, but can I change samba's port and have it work seamlessly?
[10:57] <kevor> true
[10:57] <Zaphod> how do I su to root?
[10:57] <kevor> !sudo
[10:57] <thoreauputic> !root
[10:57] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:57] <ubotu> somebody said sudo was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:57] <Zaphod> aha.. thanks
[10:57] <Zaphod> you guys are good....
[10:57] <kevor> ubotu is too cute :D
[10:57] <ubotu> kevor: I give up, what is it?
[10:57] <kemik> Ng: thanks :) now it's working as it should *doh*.. i had this working before i re-installed this client, but obviously i forgot a step.. :)
[10:58] <Ng> kemik: :)
[10:58] <Sly> jeesus
[10:59] <Sly> the 1st level is abit hard with them red spoinner things
[11:00] <kevor> Sly: Get the updates, but not the Yellow one, if you let it pass it'll give you an extra live
[11:00] <kevor> life
[11:01] <Sly> ill deffinitly be playing that for an hour somtime today
[11:01] <kevor> that's not gonna happen, there are only 4 weapons :(
[11:01] <kevor> gets boring fast
[11:02] <Sly> im simple minded =\
[11:02] <kemik> doom3 !
[11:02] <kemik> it scares me shitless :/
[11:02] <Sly> lol
[11:03] <kemik> have you tried it Sly ?
[11:03] <omp342> is there any guide for installing wine in ubuntu?
[11:03] <Sly> kemik doom3? sure i have
[11:03] <Sly> unless your about 15 i cant see how it would scare you =\
[11:03] <omp342> doom3 is stupid
[11:04] <omp342> hl2 is better :D
[11:04] <kemik> im 24 :(
[11:04] <Sly> mind you saying that im only just 19 tommorow
[11:04] <kevor>  05:02:59 up 152 days, 11:54,  6 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.05, 0.01
[11:04] <kevor> sweeeheeet ><
[11:04] <omp342> i can see how doom 3 would be frightening
[11:04] <omp342> with all the dark maps
[11:04] <kemik> all the darkness and them monster just appearing
[11:04] <Zaphod> Hi again,
[11:04] <kevor> pff doom sux, you can just turn off ur monitor
[11:04] <kevor> gives the same effect
[11:04] <Zaphod> Pllease could sooeone give me the URl for screen resolutions again
[11:04] <kemik> heehehe
[11:04] <kevor> !fixres
[11:04] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:05] <thoreauputic> kevor: warty?
[11:05] <Sly> sly@DarkStar:~$ uptime
[11:05] <Sly>  10:04:47 up  1:17,  4 users,
[11:05] <omp342> you guys need to play hl2 instead
[11:05] <kevor> hoary
[11:05] <Sly> hmm yeh . lol
[11:05] <Zaphod> thanks
[11:05] <kemik> omp342:  it's so bright and non-scary :)
[11:05] <kevor> actually bought HL2
[11:05] <Sly> i'll be happy when i crack my ut disks out , thats all i play
[11:05] <kemik> btw, is HL2 for linux aswell?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> kevor: how can your uptime be 152 days? You haven't updated the warty kernel?
[11:05] <kevor> yes, but without rebooting
[11:05] <kemik> Sly:  UT 2003 or 4?
[11:06] <Sly> 2004 and the old one
[11:06] <omp342> no HL2 won't work on linux
[11:06] <linukso> kevor: kernel updated need reboot...
[11:06] <omp342> unless you get WINE working
[11:06] <Sly> 99/goty whichever it was
[11:06] <thoreauputic> kevor: ah - so you are still running 2.6.8 ...
[11:06] <omp342> which is what im trying to do unsucessfully ;)
[11:06] <kevor> lol thoreauputic this is not a ubuntu pc, this is my shell
[11:06] <thoreauputic> kevor: I see
[11:06] <kevor> Hostname: omega - OS: Linux 2.4.29-jda/i686 - CPU: 2 x Pentium Pro (198.667 MHz) - Processes: 82 - Uptime: 152d 11h 58m - Load Average: 0.07 - Memory Usage: 139.02MB/503.66MB (27.60%) - Disk Usage: 0.72GB/40.13GB (1.81%)
[11:07] <omp342> HL2 single player is pretty boring
[11:07] <thoreauputic> kevor: got it ;)
[11:07] <omp342> i just like it for all the mods
[11:07] <omp342> like cs:s
[11:07] <kevor> omp342: i was able to bunnyhop in HL2
[11:07] <kevor> went fast as a mofo with a red-glowing stick up his ass
[11:07] <omp342> hmm, that's cool
[11:07] <omp342> does that mean it's possible in cs:s?
[11:08] <gsuveg> anyone can show me icewm-deb-source ?
[11:08] <kevor> na, cs:s feels like ur playing in a big bucket of oil
[11:08] <Sly> anyone play battlefront under cedega ?
[11:08] <prova> whi so many conflict with apt-get ??
[11:08] <kevor> the old cs, 1.3 really was fast-gameplay
[11:09] <kevor> !tell prova why
[11:09] <kevor> :09 <ubotu> No, kevor, I won't. (target invalid?)
[11:09] <kevor> that bot really has an attitude problem
[11:10] <thoreauputic> kevor: heh - I'm guessing prova isn't registered
[11:10] <Ng> prova: what are you trying to apt-get?
[11:10] <kevor> i gues "why"  does not exist
[11:11] <thoreauputic> kevor: right, but I don't think ubotu can /msg unregistered nicks (not sure)
[11:11] <prova> mm I cannot install due conflict problem ... with apt-get install ... I'm confusing...
[11:11] <prova> wmaker and openoffice....
[11:11] <thoreauputic> prova: you sources are probably wrong
[11:11] <Ng> openoffice should have been installed already
[11:11] <thoreauputic> !sources
[11:11] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:12] <omp342> =o
[11:12] <omp342> i love cs 1.3
[11:12] <prova> I've ppc
[11:12] <omp342> my fav version of cs has to be 1.3
[11:12] <kevor> mine was 1.1
[11:12] <Ng> cs:s!
[11:12] <prova> ok but apt-setup have all repositories...
[11:12] <kevor> jumping running flying with Deagle, didnt matter
[11:12] <omp342> now i play cs:s
[11:12] <Ng> I've played it since the early betas and I like cs:s the most :)
[11:12] <Ng> kevor: jumping and shooting is dumb ;p
[11:12] <thoreauputic> prova: you ran update of course ?
[11:13] <omp342> because the gaming community im a member of only has cs:s and bf2 servers
[11:13] <omp342> at least i get admin :)
[11:13] <kevor> not with a deagle, it 0wned :D
[11:13] <prova> yes apt-get update run without error
[11:13] <omp342> argh
[11:13] <omp342> i have trouble installing ppracer
[11:13] <thoreauputic> prova: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin
[11:14] <omp342> can i get it from apt-get ?
[11:14] <prova> but with apt-get install wmaker  come many message about dependency
[11:15] <prova> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[11:15] <prova>  deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[11:15] <thoreauputic> prova: are those the only lines in your list??
[11:16] <thoreauputic> don't paste the rest please
[11:16] <prova> yes the other I've deleted ;)
[11:16] <thoreauputic> prova: *cough*
[11:17] <thoreauputic> prova: you need the others to get all dependencies
[11:17] <Ng> argh
[11:17] <thoreauputic> prova: read ubotu's link below
[11:17] <Ng> the wiki badly needs an authoritative list of sources
[11:17] <thoreauputic> !sources
[11:17] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:17] <Ng> too many people delete them ;/
[11:18] <Ng> don't delete things if you don't know what they are! ;)
[11:18] <prova> who? I come from debian planet I've only one max 2 in may sources...
[11:18] <dubnium> what is evolution? useless app?
[11:18] <thoreauputic> prova: just read that - you don't understand how it works, clearly
[11:18] <prova> heheheehe
[11:19] <Ng> dubnium: it's an email, calendar and contacts manager
[11:19] <dubnium> got enough of those
[11:19] <srijith_zz> dubnium: yup.. useless for me..
[11:20] <DukGalNamu> hello all
[11:20] <Ng> dubnium: for future reference, synaptic can show you information about a package, like what it is and what it does
[11:20] <Zaphod> Hi Again, hehehe
[11:20] <dubnium> ya i forgot just started using it today
[11:20] <dubnium> i feel like im cheating
[11:20] <DukGalNamu> to everyone that helped me with my firefox problem... soemthing was acting funny (probably due to overheating) and a restart fixed it :P
[11:21] <Zaphod> Another question... I have a Windows XP Professional installation on another drive in my PC.
[11:21] <DukGalNamu> i should probably check my ram too
[11:21] <Zaphod> how do I view the files on that drive from ubuntu?
[11:21] <dubnium> mount ntfs
[11:21] <Zaphod> how do I do that?
[11:22] <dubnium> edit the fstab
[11:22] <dubnium> then do mount -a
[11:22] <Zaphod> I am very new to Linux, and don;t understand exactly how to do that...
[11:22] <Zaphod> what is the fstab? and how do I edit it?
[11:23] <poningru> !fstab
[11:23] <ubotu> poningru: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:23] <Zaphod> and what will a mount -a do?
[11:23] <poningru> sigh
[11:23] <dubnium> http://www.linuxforum.com/linux_tutorials/1/1.php
[11:23] <poningru> hold on let me get the link
[11:23] <dubnium> got it
[11:23] <clem_yeats_away> Zaphod : fstab is a file in /etc/fsatb
[11:23] <Zaphod> thanks alot..
[11:23] <Zaphod> one last question...
[11:23] <poningru> oh hehe
[11:23] <thoreauputic> !mountwindows
[11:23] <ubotu> methinks mountwindows is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[11:23] <clem_yeats_away> Zaphod : it describes how to mount things automatically
[11:23] <prova> tnks look better now ;)
[11:23] <clem_yeats_away> Zaphod : mount -a mounts everything described in the fstab file
[11:24] <srijith> Zaphod - > http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[11:24] <omp342> zaphod, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[11:24] <omp342> lol
[11:24] <clem_yeats_away> Zaphod : mount -a is called at system startup
[11:24] <omp342> you said it faster than me srijith!
[11:24] <poningru> well I have a question, who do I contact to get the install cds before september 21st
[11:24] <omp342> ARGH
[11:24] <Zaphod> we run GoldMine at my company.
[11:24] <poningru> like a large amount
[11:24] <Zaphod> I know that you do not get Goldmine for Linux,
[11:24] <LinuxDolt> people actually need help mounting their partitions... the mount and fstab man pages aren't enough?
[11:24] <srijith> omp342: hey.. what happened to your install eventually?
[11:24] <poningru> because I heard it takes more than couple of monts
[11:24] <Zaphod> is there anyway that I can run goldmine from within linux?
[11:24] <wickedpuppy> what is goldmine ??
[11:24] <omp342> oh, i guess the dvd burned bad
[11:24] <Ng> poningru: there should be contact details on the Shippit part of the ubuntu website
[11:24] <omp342> i burned it again, on another dvd-r
[11:24] <omp342> and it worked fine
[11:24] <poningru> hmm ok thanks ng
[11:25] <Zaphod> GoldMine is a CRM Package
[11:25] <omp342> =]
[11:25] <srijith> omp342: great! install went all ok? You are using SATA disks right?
[11:25] <LinuxDolt> Zaphod: goldmine some sort of windows game?  if it's directx you need to buy cedega, if it's not, wine might be able to emulate it
[11:25] <Zaphod> like is there any way of running a windows application from within Linux?
[11:25] <srijith> Zaphod: you may need wine emulator
[11:25] <wickedpuppy> !wine
[11:25] <omp342> yah
[11:25] <omp342> it never even asked me about my SATA hdd
[11:26] <wickedpuppy> ubotu, tell Zaphod about wine
[11:26] <clem_yeats_away> Zaphod : there are loads of different ways to do that..
[11:26] <wickedpuppy> hmms .. that does't work
[11:26] <wickedpuppy> lol
[11:26] <srijith> omp342: cool! So SATA was never a problem.. donno why anyther guy was having problems
[11:26] <srijith> wickedpuppy: nice try :)
[11:26] <clem_yeats_away> Zaphod : have a look at the "wine emulator" on google.
[11:26] <omp342> yah =]
[11:27] <usun> hi, anyone know how to install ffmpeg2theora application on ubuntu?
[11:27] <LinuxDolt> winehq.org
[11:27] <omp342> i just installed tuxracer
[11:27] <omp342> ill brb :D
[11:27] <usun> it is a .bin file
[11:27] <usun> /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:28] <usun> how do i install this file!
[11:28] <clem_yeats_away> ./myfile.bin
[11:28] <omp342> wow
[11:28] <omp342> something is wrong
[11:28] <omp342> tuxracer is lagging like crazy
[11:28] <clem_yeats> bin stands for binary
[11:28] <omp342> do i need to download new ati drivers?
[11:28] <clem_yeats> omp342: do you have glx and dri activated ?
[11:28] <usun> yes, so what do i do with it. what is the command line to install the app?
[11:29] <clem_yeats> usun : ./file.bin
[11:29] <usun> thks
[11:29] <clem_yeats> usun : just execute the binary file
[11:29] <prova> usun: try tho chmod to make  executable than execute it..
[11:29] <Ng> usun: chmod +x /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:29] <clem_yeats> usun : yes... chmod 777 ./file.bin
[11:29] <Ng> usun: then just /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:29] <Pac> hi
[11:29] <srijith> clem_yeats, 777!
[11:29] <Ng> usun: (in a terminal)
[11:29] <omp342> hmm i dono how can i check if i have it activated?
[11:29] <Pac> how can i use wlan with ubuntu?
[11:30] <clem_yeats> srijith: it's an install file, it'll be deleted in two minutes, so why not 777..
[11:30] <Zaphod> in the ntfs mounting thing, it says that I must su to root, but I can't do that..
[11:30] <Ng> Zaphod: sudo su
[11:30] <clem_yeats> omp342: have a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:30] <srijith> clem_yeats, he better, now :)
[11:30] <omp342> ok
[11:30] <clem_yeats> omp342: see if you can find the lines load dri and load glx
[11:30] <Pac> how can i use wlan with ubuntu?
[11:30] <Zaphod> thanks
[11:30] <clem_yeats> Pac : what do you mean ?
[11:31] <Pac> i need to install my Belkin WLan card on ubuntu
[11:31] <clem_yeats> pac : what chipset does it have ?
[11:31] <Pac> clem_yeats: where would it tell me that?
[11:31] <arphetic> MMMM as soon as i press play on XMMS it freezes ??
[11:31] <DukGalNamu> for future refrence, is there any way to force the kernal to reload the system into ram without rebooting?
[11:31] <srijith> Pac, ndiswrapper?
[11:31] <clem_yeats> pac : is it pci ?
[11:31] <thoreauputic> clem_yeats: please don't advise people to use chmod 777 - it's a really bad habit for people to get into
[11:31] <Sly> arphetic have you got nvidia drivers installed ?
[11:31] <omp342> yah those lines are there
[11:32] <Ng> DukGalNamu: no
[11:32] <Pac> clem_yeats im not sure
[11:32] <Pac> ive got the model
[11:32] <Pac> if thats any help
[11:32] <clem_yeats> thoreauputic : it's a temp file..
[11:32] <DukGalNamu> Ng: what about specific programs?
[11:32] <DukGalNamu> Ng: or at the very least purge cached programs from ram?
[11:32] <clem_yeats> Pac : no, I mean is a PCI card... ?
[11:32] <Pac> yes
[11:32] <thoreauputic> clem_yeats: "it's a bad habit" <----
[11:32] <Ng> DukGalNamu: when you quit a program it is gona from memory, although parts of it may linger in cache
[11:32] <Pac> for laptops
[11:32] <Determinist> arphetic: switch to the esd plugin for output, it wont freeze anymore
[11:32] <Ng> DukGalNamu: you can fill the caches with other things if you really want to, but why would it matter?
[11:32] <clem_yeats> thoreauputic : why ?
[11:33] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[11:33] <DukGalNamu> Ng: well, firefox had problems allt he way until i restarted
[11:33] <arphetic> How do i do that?
[11:33] <arphetic> killall esd?
[11:33] <Pac> clem_yeats : its a pci card. yes.
[11:33] <omp342> clem_yeats: those 2 lines are there.
[11:33] <Determinist> arphetic: CTRL+P , pick a esd plugin for default output
[11:33] <clem_yeats> omp342 : are they commented out ?
[11:33] <DukGalNamu> Ng: probably cause something screwy happened with the ram or something and stayed there
[11:33] <Ng> DukGalNamu: either a firefox process was lingering around or something else is going on
[11:33] <omp342> no
[11:33] <srijith> clem_yeats, i guess once you fall into the habit, every time you get a permission problem, people will tend to use 777
[11:33] <DukGalNamu> Ng: possible, i thought it was java
[11:33] <clem_yeats> Pac : you said it was a laptop ?
[11:33] <Pac> yes
[11:33] <Pac> pci card
[11:33] <arphetic> Determinist: Ctrl + P = dead
[11:34] <Ng> srijith: one could argue that on a single user machine that isn't really a problem ;)
[11:34] <clem_yeats> srijith : well, that doesn't mean one should never use 777..
[11:34] <srijith> Pac, you may need ndiswrapper?
[11:34] <Ng> DukGalNamu: could well be, java_vm processes seem to like hanging around ;)
[11:34] <srijith> clem_yeats, almost never
[11:34] <DukGalNamu> Ng: i should have checked for it :P
[11:34] <clem_yeats> srijith : I understand the concern though.
[11:34] <Pac> srijith : where do i get ndiswrapper from
[11:35] <srijith> !ndiswrapper
[11:35] <ubotu> I heard ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[11:35] <DukGalNamu> Ng: all well, i had to restart anyways... kernel update
[11:35] <bukaka> Ng, i get this error
[11:35] <bukaka> Ng, /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:35] <Pac> thanks
[11:35] <bukaka> usun@SUN:~$ chmod 777 ./home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:35] <bukaka> chmod: cannot access `./home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin': No such file or directory
[11:35] <bukaka> usun@SUN:~$
[11:35] <Pac> srijith : then it will work?
[11:35] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: umm, go to ubuntu.com and download it
[11:35] <omp342> clem_yeats: no they are not commented out
[11:35] <srijith> Pac, check this too -> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21731.html
[11:35] <gsuveg> can i build a deb from a simple tgz ?
[11:35] <Pac> ok thanks :))
[11:35] <Ng> bukaka: take the . off the front of /home/
[11:36] <Ng> bukaka: . means "current directory"
[11:36] <arphetic> Is it also possible to set ESD to default through terminal?
[11:36] <srijith> Pac,  and search the Ubuntu wiki and forums.. I am sure others too would have shared their experience
[11:36] <LinuxDolt> DukGalNamu: uhh... i've had ubuntu installed for a few weeks now, i'm STILL trying to get my stinking printer shared
[11:36] <bukaka> Ng, thks
[11:36] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: ohh, that requires samba
[11:36] <LinuxDolt> finally got it to work locally
[11:36] <Pac> srijith whats this ndiswrapper for then?
[11:36] <omp342> so should i download new ati drivers?
[11:36] <bukaka> Ng, it works, now how do i install it
[11:36] <LinuxDolt> DukGalNamu: i have samba, and file shares are all working fine
[11:36] <clem_yeats> Pac : you need to identify your chipset first of all. That is the component that your wifi card is using.
[11:36] <bukaka> Ng, now how do i execute it
[11:37] <Pac> clem_yeats how do i find that out
[11:37] <bukaka> Ng, thks
[11:37] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: then it should be shared...
[11:37] <Pac> !ndiswrapper
[11:37] <ubotu> methinks ndiswrapper is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[11:37] <clem_yeats> Pac : well... it's a laptop, so I'm guessing your wifi card is not a PCI card but a PCMCIA right ?
[11:37] <Ng> bukaka: I suspect that file is the program itself and there is no installer, so cp it to /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora, that puts it in your path and you can just call it as ffmpeg2theora from a terminal
[11:37] <LinuxDolt> DukGalNamu: oh, it is, but it can't find the dang drivers to install
[11:37] <owtput> hey guys, anyone know of a nice monospaced font?
[11:37] <Ng> owtput: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono :)
[11:37] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: so you need your drivers?
[11:37] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: for the printer?
[11:38] <clem_yeats> owtput : courrier :)
[11:38] <owtput> Ng: yeah, that's a nice font, any others
[11:38] <Pac> clem_yeats its like a card that slots it
[11:38] <Ng> owtput: pass ;)
[11:38] <Zaphod> another questions... I am trying to play MP3's, and it says I can't. says I need to install the plugins.. how do I do this?
[11:38] <owtput> i'll be using it in a term (urxvt most likely,) and irssi
[11:38] <bukaka> Ng, nok, yes i have executed it...
[11:38] <wickedpuppy> !mp3
[11:38] <ubotu> [mp3]  read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[11:38] <clem_yeats> Pac : like a thin rectangular card that goes on the side of the laptop.
[11:38] <bukaka> Ng, Ok /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:38] <bukaka> and it executed it..
[11:38] <LinuxDolt> i need to be able to get cupsaddsmb to run, but it asks for root password, (i have enabled root) which i type in, but it still doesn't proceed
[11:39] <fluffybunny_> is there a channel for Evolution?
[11:39] <arphetic> Determinist: You still alive?
[11:39] <arphetic> Or sly ;)
[11:39] <owtput> is there another mirror in Australia besides au.archive?
[11:40] <Pac> clem_yeats: yes it is
[11:40] <arphetic> mMM
[11:40] <Pac> :)
[11:40] <clem_yeats> Pac : what it the name of your wifi card (on the box) ?
[11:40] <Pac> Belkin
[11:40] <Determinist> arphetic: kinda, i'm at work...
[11:40] <Sly> sorry i just had a beep ........... ?
[11:40] <Sly> have i missed somthing =\
[11:40] <Pac> nope sly
[11:40] <Pac> dont thinks so
[11:40] <owtput> Sly: someone honking your horn
[11:40] <DukGalNamu> yeah
[11:41] <DukGalNamu> Sly: beep
[11:41] <Sly> arphetic either enable your output to esd or................  if that fails you could try killall esd ?
[11:41] <clem_yeats> Pac : I need more info than that
[11:41] <DukGalNamu> :P
[11:41] <Pac> clem_yeats ive installed ndiswrapper now i put in the windows disk right?
[11:41] <Sly> if that fails....... use beep-media-player =D
[11:41] <arphetic> Determinist: ok ;)
[11:41] <arphetic> Sly: how do i set it to ESD?
[11:41] <DukGalNamu> Sly: beep-media-player???
[11:41] <bukaka> Ng, wants i run the file /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:41] <arphetic> Determinist: Ctrl + p doesnt work
[11:41] <Sly> i dont use xmms so i dont know
[11:42] <LinuxDolt> and once again, no one is helping me
[11:42] <Sly> i use beep-media-player :)
[11:42] <Determinist> arphetic: check the menues in xmms, it should be preferences
[11:42] <clem_yeats> Pac : ok
[11:42] <Ng> bukaka: cp /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora
[11:42] <bukaka> Ng, and i get the usage commands, does that mean its ready to use
[11:42] <Ng> bukaka: then it's installed
[11:42] <Ng> bukaka: yes
[11:42] <Tribune> hi. i did re install my window xp. how ever seem my grub mssing and keep on detecting winxp. how can i redo my grub?
[11:42] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: still not sure what the problem is, you can't find the drivers for what?
[11:42] <clem_yeats> Pac : insert the card and type "lspci"
[11:42] <arphetic> ah k
[11:42] <Sly> DukGalNamu , yes try it :)
[11:42] <DukGalNamu> Sly: what is it?
[11:42] <Pac> ok clem
[11:42] <bukaka> thks!
[11:42] <Sly> similer to xmms
[11:42] <Pac> in terminal?
[11:43] <bukaka> Ng, thks - lifesaver!
[11:43] <DukGalNamu> Sly: how so?
[11:43] <bukaka> Ng, are you a debian expert
[11:43] <LinuxDolt> DukGalNamu: the printer, there are no printer drivers exported into /var/lib/samba/printers
[11:43] <Ng> bukaka: I wouldn't say that, I've just been using it for a while :)
[11:43] <Sly> that ist has , all buttons to play music files
[11:43] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: this is the wrong place to ask that
[11:43] <bukaka> Ng, ubuntu or debian ? or both?
[11:43] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: head over to #samba and have ALOT of patience
[11:44] <Ng> bukaka: both
[11:44] <owtput> bukaka: they're pretty similar
[11:44] <Ng> bukaka: they're pretty much the same inside
[11:44] <bukaka> yup, ubuntu runs on debian
[11:44] <bukaka> its great
[11:44] <Sly> DukGalNamu , just a personal preference over xmms
[11:44] <concept10> I erased my gnome menu from the panel, how did I get it back, i mean all of them, applications, places, system
[11:44] <LinuxDolt> howso?  this is a quirkyness in this particular distro, i have gotten all this stuff to happen successfully in gentoo
[11:44] <DukGalNamu> Sly: something tells me that it plays beeps instead of music for some reason...
[11:44] <LinuxDolt> so, i need to ask HERE
[11:44] <Sly> lmao :)
[11:44] <Sly> i can see why
[11:44] <fluffybunny_> i'm using evolution as a mail client, and i have all these weird folders (like ".login_conf") with "emails" from my server - looks like commented code - is is safe to delete these?
[11:45] <owtput> another gentoo-ist dabbling with ubuntu
[11:45] <owtput> welcome to the fold
[11:45] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: then why aren't you using gentoo?
[11:45] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: and why don't you export them manually?
[11:45] <bukaka> Ng, when i went to cp the file, it did not work...
[11:45] <gsuveg> how i make deb from a simple source package ? i dont remember the tool name
[11:45] <srijith> gentoo is for newbies.. grus use LFS ;)
[11:45] <bukaka> Ng, so i don't really need to do this...
[11:45] <owtput> bukaka: which file?
[11:45] <Sly> arphetic, i just apt-getd xmms
[11:45] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: or how about compiling samba yourself?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> bukaka: prepend sudo
[11:45] <srijith> grus=gurus
[11:46] <Sly> and sure enough Cntrl + p fetchs up the out plugin screen
[11:46] <Sly> among other options
[11:46] <bukaka> sudo cp /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:46] <arphetic> SLy i have that
[11:46] <bukaka> ?
[11:46] <Ng> bukaka: it's not vital, you could try it again with "sudo " at the front, I should probably have mentioned that
[11:46] <LinuxDolt> DukGalNamu: because ubuntu is a binary distro, and as such, supposed to operate out of the box much more quickly than the week it takes to get gentoo running in the first place
[11:46] <bukaka> Ng, tHKS
[11:46] <arphetic> Alternative sound device: /dev/esp ??
[11:46] <Sly> and it still crashs ?
[11:46] <simplydazed> anybody setup a decent network antivirus?
[11:46] <bukaka> /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:46] <bukaka> OPS SORRY
[11:46] <arphetic> Sly:  Alternative sound device: /dev/esp ??
[11:46] <bukaka> thoreauputic, thks
[11:46] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: yes, but it also will not always be working EXACTLY how you want it, so do a little dirty work if you want it perfect!
[11:46] <pippijn> hi all
[11:46] <thoreauputic> bukaka: no problem :)
[11:47] <bukaka> thoreauputic, you need a simpler NICK
[11:47] <Sly> under Output Plugin: you dont see eSound Output Plugin 1.2.10 ???
[11:47] <fayyaz> hello
[11:47] <bukaka> like Ng!
[11:47] <pippijn> does anyone know of a tool that can create a thumbnail html site from a directory of images?
[11:47] <arphetic> yes i do
[11:47] <thoreauputic> bukaka:  thore <tab>
[11:47] <DukGalNamu> srijith: what would someone that does LFS be doing in here?
[11:47] <ompaul> bukaka, no he don't :)
[11:47] <Ng> bukaka: you're welcome :)
[11:47] <LinuxDolt> DukGalNamu: i've never exported CUPS printer drivers to samba manually, where does CUPS keep them?
[11:47] <thoreauputic> bukaka: you can tab complete nicks :)
[11:47] <arphetic> works fine now
[11:47] <arphetic> Thank you
[11:47] <owtput> whitmanputic
[11:48] <Sly> :)
[11:48] <DukGalNamu> LinuxDolt: man should tell you
[11:48] <bukaka> Ng, when i go to type in:
[11:48] <Ng> pippijn: galrey, igal, bins... search the ubuntu packages for "gallery"
[11:48] <bukaka> Ng, sudo cp /home/usun/ffmpeg2theora-1.13.linux.bin
[11:48] <bukaka> cp: missing destination file
[11:48] <bukaka> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[11:48] <poningru> ok problem
[11:48] <thoreauputic> owtput: hmm - I'm not a Whitman fan actually
[11:48] <bukaka> Ng, i get that error
[11:48] <ompaul> DukGalNamu, who da man [man man, man apropos]
[11:48] <Ng> bukaka: sudo cp /home/usun/ffmpegblahblah /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora
[11:48] <DukGalNamu> ompaul: that was.... random.....
[11:49] <Ng> bukaka: the /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg2theora bit is important, that's the destination for cp to use :)
[11:49] <Chousuke> Ng: hm
[11:49] <ompaul> DukGalNamu, that was very accurate :)
[11:49] <Chousuke> it seems that .bin might be an installer.
[11:49] <poningru> is there anyway possible that our shipment can be expidited? cause our lug install fest is in september 21 and we need a large amount of cds
[11:49] <Chousuke> sh it.
[11:49] <poningru> like 100
[11:49] <Ng> Chousuke: I think it's just eh binary, he said running it gave him usage options
[11:49] <srijith> DukGalNamu, just having fun :) but to answer your question, what LinuxDolt was doing here ..
[11:49] <poningru> is it possible to get it shipped through the warehouse faster?
[11:49] <Ng> poningru: you'll have to ask the Shippit people that
[11:50] <poningru> do they have a channel?
[11:50] <owtput> thoreauputic: he's the "simpler" transcendentalist
[11:50] <thoreauputic> Chousuke: Ng, it is a binary - I have it here
[11:50] <Ng> ponigru: I doubt it, but there should be email links
[11:50] <deufo> where can i get more splashy themes?
[11:50] <Ng> thoreauputic: ta
[11:50] <bukaka> Ng, i see
[11:50] <poningru> right but its just faceless<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:50] <ompaul> poningru, they have an email address, Mr mako hill made reference to it on planetubuntu in the last couple of days
[11:51] <Ng> poningru: did you notice the sentence on the front of the SHipit page that says "If you have organized an event and have an urgent need for Ubuntu CDs, please read the FAQ and contact us."? ;)
[11:51] <poningru> right
[11:51] <Determinist> arphetic: you sorted yet?
[11:51] <ompaul> poningru, so mail it with the subject Lug Installfest  and put in the date
[11:51] <owtput> brb. solaris box down.
[11:51] <poningru> sigh
[11:51] <Zaphod> is there any way to chek that my sound is working?
[11:51] <poningru> ok Its just I dont like emailing to these addys