[08:06] <shafox> KI7MT, as I said, If i provide full path it works in sudo, sudo su, normal user also.
[08:07] <KI7MT> shafox, My bad, I thought it did not work with sudo at all .. well in that case, add your /opt path to /etc/enviroment file and sudo su vim should work
[08:08] <somsip> KI7MT: /opt can be a bit big for adding to a path in its entirety...
[08:08] <KI7MT> shafox, for more info see: man sudoers [env_reset]
[08:08] <somsip> KI7MT: lots of stuff could end up in there...
[08:09] <KI7MT> somsip, you dont have to put /opt  drill down to what you want say .. /opt/bin/
[08:09] <shafox> not gonna add whole /opt dir gonna add only what i require i guess .
[08:09] <pascal_> hello
[08:10] <antimatroid> there are no other themes installed by default and i don't know which one would give what I want?
[08:10] <KI7MT> shafox, somsip Im not saying add just /opt .. I dont know your install paths for vim .. or I would have said, add that
[08:10] <pascal_> french keyboard ubuntu 13.10 problem about the oe we can't have the same as æ it does ø
[08:10] <somsip> KI7MT: indeed - your clarification is what was needed :) Though I still maintain a symlink can do the job...
[08:11] <shafox> a sudo example on the symlink somsip
[08:11] <pascal_> someone will correct ?
[08:11] <somsip> shafox: sudo ln -s /opt/viml/vim /usr/bin/vim (but I did this earlier and explained about /etc/alternatives too)
[08:12] <shafox> sorry i missed that
[08:12] <somsip> shafox: do ls -la /etc/alternatives vi* and you will see what I mean
[08:12] <pascal_> shafox i count on you
[08:12] <shafox> pascal_, its frech. sorry no idea.
[08:12] <pascal_> i hope you will help us
[08:13] <somsip> shafox: I don't know if this is a better way and am not trying to one-up on KI7MT, but it's a different way
[08:13] <pascal_> anyway that's new, no pb with ubuntu 12.04
[08:13] <shafox> and i am more like a web dev guy
[08:13] <pascal_> ok
[08:13] <KI7MT> shafox, somsip Here's what I'm talking about exactly with env_reset, see the first answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/128413/setting-the-path-so-it-applies-to-all-users-including-root-sudo
[08:14] <shafox> KI7MT, ohh gotcha
[08:14] <somsip> KI7MT: I know what you mean, it's just I prefer to keep PATH to the minimum and create symlinks out from the PATH to other executables. Like I say, maybe no better and now worse. Just different
[08:14] <KI7MT> somsip, Im all for what works, don't care who or how :-)
[08:14] <shafox> lol
[08:14] <somsip> KI7MT: you come across as reasonable - it's all good :)
[08:14] <shafox> :)p
[08:15] <somsip> shafox: so....the choice is YOURS!
[08:15] <shafox> somsip, KI7MT :: Its like a blue pill or red pill situation ?
[08:15] <somsip> shafox: nah - more like a blue pill and a slightly different shade of blue pill
[08:15] <shafox> aye
[08:16] <KI7MT> shafox, Blue and Green .. Bourne Story all over again :-)
[08:17] <shafox> KI7MT, naice.
[08:18] <KI7MT> shafox, Bottom line is, how ever you want to set things up is the right way, but if you use path vars, be aware of the sudo su situation, then all is good.
[08:18] <shafox> yeah still thinking which way to go
[08:20] <LeMike> Can someone tell me how high the second number of this can go? `head -c1 /dev/random | od`
[08:23] <KI7MT> shafox, somsip the sudo guru's say to use: sudo -E su to preserve normal $PATH that normal users get.
[08:23] <shafox> ahh
[08:23] <KI7MT> shafox, I'd really have a look at /usr/local and see if that's a better fit for your sudo needs as well.
[08:25] <shafox> KI7MT, on another note: where does binary goes, i installed elasticsearch and while doing which elasticsearch it gives nothing but when i do sudo service elasticsearch start it starts and also have the runninng confirmed that its running
[08:25] <KI7MT> shafox, surely you can pass  ./configure --prefix=/usr/local  then make && make install
[08:26] <KI7MT> shafox, One app you want to use is "checkinstall" as you can install and remove custom installs easily.
[08:26] <shafox> KI7MT, i have installed through a .deb file
[08:27] <KI7MT> shafox, check install does it all automatically, from sources.
[08:27] <shafox> ahh ok
[08:27] <KI7MT> shafox, so it's ./configure .. make .. make check .. checkinstall .. v.s. make install
[08:28] <shafox> KI7MT, well yeah but for compiling from sources not for the .deb packages
[08:28] <antimatroid> so nobody knows a way to make ubuntu look like maverick without being stuck with maverick (I tried that, got stuck with other out of date stuff)
[08:28] <KI7MT> shafox, what you mean .deb packages ?
[08:29] <shafox> KI7MT, https://download.elasticsearch.org/elasticsearch/elasticsearch/elasticsearch-0.90.8.deb
[08:29] <MindSpark> antimatroid: you can make any linux distribution look however you want
[08:29] <cfhowlett> antimatroid, install use ubuntu gnome for the old gnome look
[08:29] <KI7MT> shafox, like your VIM custom compile, down load the tar, build-dep .. tar -zxsf .. ./confgure && make && checkinstall .. done.
[08:30] <shafox> KI7MT, hm thanks :)
[08:31] <lewis1711> what should my next move be if "nomodeset" on boot doesn't give me a graphical environment? kind of lost
[08:31] <KI7MT> shafox, it builds a .deb file for you .. and manages the installs that way.
[08:31] <shafox> Yeah KI7MT reading the docs now.
[08:31] <KI7MT> lewis1711, what Ubuntu version you you trying to install ?
[08:31] <Viking667> I've got a wee ... problem.
[08:32] <cfhowlett> Viking667, there're pills for that ...
[08:32] <lewis1711> KI7MT: I ran an upgrade, 13.04 -> 13.10. 13.04 did boot up.
[08:32] <Viking667> I ran an update, but now the system doesn't have a linux kernel.
[08:32] <Viking667> cfhowlett: uhm, I've taken the red one alredy.
[08:32] <Viking667> was that bad? bbadadadadadada?
[08:32] <Viking667> hic
[08:32] <cfhowlett> Viking667, reboot, use an older ubuntu ... NO KERNEL?
[08:32] <Viking667> no kernel. Period.
[08:32] <Viking667> stuffed if I know how I broke it this bad...
[08:33] <Viking667> I'm currently over on a Fedora, looking at my Ubuntu system.
[08:33] <cfhowlett> Viking667, that doesn't even sound possible.  can you boot an older version of ubuntu
[08:33] <Viking667> nope.
[08:33] <Viking667> the update seems to have removed them all. Sigh.
[08:33] <pr0f1t> KI7MT: I solved my problem, thank you for helping me. Only that it was necessary to prescribe this command: ssh-add ~ / .ssh / id_rsa
[08:33] <cfhowlett> Viking667, how exactly did you "update"
[08:33] <KI7MT> lewis1711, Ahh ok .. double release-upgrades .. nto the best say to go, unless it's LTS to LTS .. my recommendation, maybe not like it, but if you want 13.10 .. do a fresh install.
[08:33] <Viking667> I ran do-update-release...
[08:33] <Viking667> or was it do-release-update
[08:34] <cfhowlett> Viking667, one more vote for downloading the ISO and doing the manual installation ...
[08:34] <lewis1711> KI7MT: yeah might be shorter in the long term. I'll try xforcevesa, and if that fails I'll just do a clean install.
[08:34] <KI7MT> pr0f1t, Cool glad you got it fixed.
[08:34] <Viking667> ugh. Already wasted 981Mb upgrading TO 13.04
[08:35] <Viking667> I did have another idea though, I'll root around under /var/cache/apt
[08:35] <cfhowlett> Viking667, is this a server or desktop?  and do you NEED 13.10?  LTS is still workinng, you know...
[08:35] <Viking667> desktop.
[08:36] <cfhowlett> Viking667, I'm surprised to hear the old kernels got deleted.  I thought old kernels weren't autozapped by design.
[08:36] <Viking667> I was upgrading to 13.10 from 12.10 via 13.04
[08:36] <Viking667> so far, I'm stuck on 13.04 without a kernel... hehehehe.
[08:36] <KI7MT> wow another 2 release upgrade .. these things never seem to go well.
[08:36] <cfhowlett> Viking667, .... torrent the 13.10 ISO, and install
[08:36] <Viking667> sigh.
[08:37] <Viking667> tanks.
[08:37] <KI7MT> Indeed
[08:37]  * Viking667 needs to deart.
[08:37] <Viking667> err, depart.
[08:38] <pr0f1t> KI7MT: It is a pity that I do not understand what you are saying, I have to use a translator, I only understand what you are talking about issues of Ubuntu. Personally for me Saucy Salamander immediately after installation - has a lot of bugs :D
[08:40] <KI7MT> pr0f1t, I should of had you ... cd ~/.ssh ... then ... ssd-add ...  I forgot ...  Yes 12.04 is most stable.
[08:40] <KI7MT> !ru > pr0f1t
[08:41] <pr0f1t> ubottu: thx =)
[08:42] <antimatroid> I'm a happy man
[08:42] <pr0f1t> lol
[08:43] <KI7MT> The Verve .. Happy Man :-)
[08:43] <KI7MT> Or is that Lucky Man :-)
[08:43] <somsip> KI7MT: Lucky :)
[08:44] <pr0f1t> KI7MT: I could not find ia32-libs in 12.04, 12.04 for me not too good release
[08:45] <ObrienDave> KI7MT, Lucky Man, Emerson, Lake and Palmer
[08:45] <KI7MT> pr0f1t, it is there .. sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ..
[08:46] <KI7MT> ObrienDave, ELP a bit before my days :-)
[08:46] <ObrienDave> not mine ;P
[08:47] <Ben64> !multiarch
[08:47] <Ben64> http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package
[08:48] <KI7MT> pr0f1t, apt-cache search ia32-libs ... ... ... ia32-libs - ia32 shared libraries - transitional package
[08:49] <pr0f1t> KI7MT: This package was before, but the last time I checked, it was not, and as dependent on him any skype, teamviwer and so I had to go to 13.04, but as his term comes to an end, I switched to 13.10, and then again I did not find ia32-libs = \ such cases
[08:49] <KI7MT> pr0f1t, Ok .. understand.
[08:51] <pr0f1t> Who knows how to make a static ip for ssh?
[08:52] <pascal_> ok my keyboard pb is solved
[08:53] <pascal_> new system new use
[08:53] <KI7MT> pr0f1t, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/step-by-step-ubuntu-13-10-saucy-salamander-lamp-server-setup.html
[08:53] <vocx> pr0f1t, a static IP is for your network card. Afterwards all programmes, including SSH, would use that IP address.
[08:54] <KI7MT> pr0f1t, Start at this section: sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[08:55] <antimatroid> now i can't see the buddy list in pidgin (in gnome classic), anyone got any idea why that would be?
[08:55] <KI7MT> pr0f1t, Basic Tutorial: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux-basics-set-a-static-ip-on-ubuntu
[08:55] <antimatroid> i tried uninstalling, cleaning, restarting and reinstalling
[08:56] <xh> antimatroid:maybe you have to restart your computer after uninstalling cleaning etc.
[08:57] <KI7MT> More like log out and log back in, doubt a reboot is needed.
[08:58] <pr0f1t> KI7MT:I edited /etc/network/interfaces, preserved, restart the service and why the session is restarted and could not start, I had it back, now I will try again)
[08:58] <antimatroid> xh: I did just that
[08:58] <KI7MT> pr0f1t, This one is easy to follow:  http://www.howtoforge.com/linux-basics-set-a-static-ip-on-ubuntu
[09:00] <xh> antimatroid, have you tried to delete the config file?
[09:00] <antimatroid> no
[09:04] <cmdd> hi um I am having trouble with a bcm4352 wifi adapter I get slow net working speeds & speedtest.net times out its that bad
[09:04] <somsip> !bcm | cmdd
[09:04] <xh> antimatroid1, ~/.config/pidgin may be the location of the config file.dont know exactly cause i use empathy
[09:07] <ste22x> hi all
[09:07] <Rory> Hello ste22x
[09:07] <ste22x> anyone help  with my alsa
[09:08] <ste22x> would like to have it play a few audio programs at a time
[09:08] <ste22x> seems to limit me to having only one open
[09:09] <cmdd> oh & grub has stopped working i have to use f9 to boot into ubuntu
[09:09] <antimatroid> same problem still, buddy list area is completely white
[09:09] <ste22x> use  skype  and hampshere  echolink  cq 100
[09:10] <ste22x> are there  any plugins  that would help
[09:12] <Rory> ste22x: You will need to use pulseaudio for that; what Ubuntu version are you using?
[09:13] <KI7MT> cmdd, a good place to start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[09:13] <ste22x> lubunto 13.1
[09:14] <Rory> ste22x: I recommend asking in #lubuntu for lubuntu-specific help. Ubuntu ships PulseAudio by default and has done for a long time
[09:15] <ste22x> seems like  my software has both pulse audio and  alsa
[09:16] <Rory> ste22x: Still, the sound in Lubuntu is different from Ubuntu, and this is the Ubuntu support channel
[09:16] <ste22x> ok   thx  though
[09:18] <profit> KI7MT: And for ppp0 connect this way, too, can make a static ip? I think this is problematic because ppp0 connection I connect only after logging in, and ubuntu configures the bridge before the login ...
[09:19] <KI7MT> profit, I am not sure about ppp0 .. I hve not sued that is a very long time.
[09:21] <profit> KI7MT: i am oldfag
[09:21] <KI7MT> =) .. me too
[09:22] <profit> KI7MT: how old are you?
[09:22] <Ben64> #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support discussions :)
[09:23] <profit> Ben64: took the hint
[09:23] <KI7MT> profit, Old :-)
[09:25] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:26] <cristian_c> I've tried bustle-dbus-monitor and bustle
[09:26] <cristian_c> In the various tests I've done, I have not seen activity about mouse and keyboard connected
[09:26] <cristian_c> devices work but are not announced in bustle
[09:26] <cristian_c> at the same time, the only information shown by bustle are those related to applications
[09:26] <cristian_c> may be bustle is not the right program to detect the activity of the devices?
[09:27] <cristian_c> and if so, what is the right program to monitor this activity?
[09:27] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:28] <profit> KI7MT: I was joking, I do not oldfaq, I'm 20 years old. I'm so honored that this method for my ppp0 connection is not working. I created just such a piece here pl7ofit.redirectme.to, this is my static ip address. If you scan the ports, you can see 22 ssh, but I can not connect
[09:29] <cmdd> hi guy's im having trouble with grub, it stop working  and boot's windows it usually happens when i boot from the cd or other device im runing 13.10.
[09:29] <KI7MT> profit, Im not sure how to fix that one.
[09:32] <Beldar> cmdd, This a dual boot with W8? Can you be clearer on the relation of the cd or other device boot and the problem.
[09:34] <[[thufir]]> I'm trying to compile doge wallet, but get uniform_int_distribution.hpp and yet, I seem to have everything installed as per  uniform_int_distribution.hpp .
[09:35] <[[thufir]]> I mean as instructions at http://b.agilob.net/such-address-many-dig-on-linux-wow/
[09:36] <cmdd> yes this is a dual boot with win 8.1 and it happens when i boot the Ubuntu cd
[09:37] <Beldar> cmdd, the grub boot of the install is not really related to booting a live cd, so not sure what you mean.
[09:41] <cmdd> when i have ubuntu installed on dual boot and i put in the cd to install ndis wrapper for example grub does not work anymore and i have to use f9 to boot ubuntu.
[09:41] <Beldar> cmdd, ndis wrapper for?
[09:41] <KI7MT> and why using the CD to install it ?
[09:42] <cmdd> wifi problems im having also.
[09:42] <tomreyn> hi, there, could someone help me get xfce4 / xubuntu to start up again? i'm on lightdm, login, the screen flashes, i get an empty desktop background, and that's it. no window manager, no panels.
[09:43] <cmdd> thats what i read to do.
[09:43] <[[thufir]]> I'm trying to compile doge wallet, but get an error about missing uniform_int_distribution.hpp and yet, I seem to have everything installed as per   http://b.agilob.net/such-address-many-dig-on-linux-wow/
[09:43] <mjayk> tomreyn: did you install xfce4 ontop of ubuntu (with unity) or straight from xubuntu ?
[09:43] <tomreyn> mjayk: on top, but i since removed unity + ubuntu-desktop
[09:44] <Beldar> cmdd, a ndis wrapper has nothing to do with grub, I suspect there is some sort of user error going on  here. Show a link to the ndis wrapper info your following.
[09:44] <tomreyn> what i did since xfce last worked was to install some updates (could get a list if needed), and, i assume that's more important, copied ~/.gconf/ from another computer
[09:44] <tomreyn> (but not ~/.gconfd)
[09:45] <tomreyn> i also rm -rf'd ~/.cache
[09:45] <KI7MT> Beldar, he also can't get his wifi working, and I suspect he's been told to modprobe ndiswrapper & the driver, thus the need for the cd.
[09:45] <mjayk> tomreyn: can you launch things from keyboard short cuts such as terminal? Im just wondering if your config has been buggered in some way and pannels removed
[09:46] <tomreyn> mjayk: no keyboard shortcuts dont seem to work
[09:46] <cmdd> yest ndis wrapper has nothing to with grub that's what i was using the cd for when grub stoped working.
[09:46] <mjayk> tomreyn: one sure way of fixing it would be to reinstall xfce4-desktop but there may be a simpler easier way that would keep your config im just not knowlageable enough to know it:D
[09:47] <tomreyn> mjayk: there used to be ~/.xsession-errors but this doesn't seem to be written to anymore, do you know where the desktop startup is logged to now?
[09:47] <Touhou11> Doge wallet is a real thing? I assumed it was just a joke
[09:47] <KI7MT> cmdd, you dont need the CD in the drive when you boot to use is, so that not an issue.
[09:48] <tomreyn> reinstalling xfce4-desktop won't help if the problem is the configuration in my /home, and i assume that's so
[09:48] <cmdd> sorry can repeat you that?
[09:48] <nnyk> Hi.
[09:48] <mjayk> tomreyn: if you do ps -e | grep xfce what outputs do you get /
[09:49] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: did you run that sed command?
[09:49] <andyfied> Touhou11: it is so real
[09:49] <KI7MT> cmdd, to install ndiswrapper, you do not have to have the CD in the drive when you boot you machine.
[09:49] <andyfied> Touhou11: terrifyingly real
[09:49] <nnyk> I'm currently connected to a remote server and i've copied something to the system clipboard from vim (remotely). How can i paste it to the command line?
[09:50] <Touhou11> nnyk: Ctrl + V
[09:51] <cmdd> ok but i did that & now grub stopped working and i have to use f9 to boot into it.
[09:51] <tomreyn> mjayk: none, i guess it's not running
[09:51] <mjayk> tomreyn: id guess so if you get no outputs
[09:51] <Beldar> cmdd, Did you set the cd as first read in the bios at some point and not change it back to the HD?
[09:52] <mjayk> tomreyn: have you tried forcing it to run
[09:52] <mjayk> to check its not a startup problem
[09:52] <tomreyn> mjayk: how would i do this?
[09:52] <nnyk> Touhou11: not working
[09:53] <tomreyn> mjayk: actually it is running, sorry, i had killed it when i tried last time
[09:53] <cmdd> no
[09:53] <tomreyn> i've got like 10 xfce4-... processes
[09:54] <mjayk> tomreyn: :-)
[09:54] <nnyk> Touhou11: damn, vim on the server doesnt have clipboard support.
[09:54] <tomreyn> mjayk: still doesn't come up though
[09:54] <nnyk> :-/
[09:54] <cmdd> its set to os boot manager.
[09:54] <nnyk> thanks anyway.
[09:55] <mjayk> tomreyn: is xfce-pannel there?
[09:55] <tomreyn> mjayk: yes
[09:56] <mjayk> tomreyn: that is weird so it appears to be running and should be displaying things
[09:56] <tomreyn> xfce4 session, panel, terminal, volumed, power-man, notifyd, 2x netload-p , xfce4-indicator
[09:56] <[[thufir]]> does this:  http://pastebin.com/yNEFjUfz  mean that the compile worked?  if so, what's the result?  what's the name of the file?
[09:57] <airtonix> i love it when i go to paste something into chrome and it just goes "Nope" and freezes. :<
[09:57] <mjayk> tomreyn: im kinda lost now maybe try kill the session and restart it but from what you said I would expect it to work sorry
[09:58] <Touhou11> airtonix: Probably because the software is busy forwarding your message to the NSA
[09:58] <airtonix> Touhou11: you mean i have to change my operating system again based on hearsay?
[09:58] <tomreyn> mjayk: thanks anyways :)
[09:58]  * airtonix rages
[09:58] <mjayk> tomreyn:  good luck
[09:59] <esse2k> ubuntu gnome 13.10 touchscreen buggy, anyone know this problem? was working in 13.04. now cant click top menu. clicking will just highlight the item
[09:59] <Touhou11> airtonix: Not your OS, just your browser. You're using a closed-source web browser written by the same company who granted the NSA direct access to all their servers. I wouldn't trust it
[09:59] <Blindie_> hello
[09:59] <ste22x> rory  are you still there
[09:59] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: i would call that success. i don't know what the files is though
[09:59] <Blindie_> is there a way tu use dolby digital live ore dts connect with ubuntu?
[10:00] <Blindie_> ore is there another way to get all surround channels over the spdif?
[10:00] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: it should be listed in the script maybe?
[10:00] <[[thufir]]> andyfied: thanks.  ok, that's the CLI for doge, so I'll try to use that.   http://askubuntu.com/questions/393386/dogecoin-wallet-client-dependencies-boost  for the GUI version.
[10:01] <[[thufir]]> andyfied: they're README is like "doge, dig,make much money"  LOL, documentation.
[10:01] <Beldar> Touhou11, This is ubuntu support not your soapbox.
[10:01] <Touhou11> Beldar: I don't use soap
[10:01] <macs> anyone here manage to get Flux running on 13.10
[10:01] <ste22x> hi  all  i have  lubuntu now   but could easily change to ubuntu
[10:02] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: haha, i know. i'm lucky mine worked with no errors.
[10:02] <ste22x> can you use multiple audio programs  at once   with ubuntu
[10:02] <Rory> ste22x: Yes
[10:02] <Beldar> Touhou11, we can go about this till your banned, your choice.
[10:03] <ste22x> ok great   if i install ubuntu   would i be able to having a few audio programs goin
[10:03] <ste22x> voip   ones
[10:03] <cfhowlett> ste22x, limited by your audio processor capability, but yes ...
[10:04] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: i'd invite you to my pool but the website is down
[10:04] <ste22x> u know i use  skype, hamsphere   echolink
[10:04] <ste22x> on  windows i can have a few  goin at the same time
[10:04] <Blindie_> can anyone help me?
[10:04] <cfhowlett> !ask|Blindie_, details
[10:05] <ste22x> are there any  plugins   i should install  aswell
[10:06] <ste22x> quite  health  challenged   so  i  rely  on   a  few  ham  voip  programs
[10:06] <Blindie_> ubottu, i already asked the question
[10:06] <Blindie_> i am too :D
[10:06] <ste22x> but  would like to get away  from  using windows
[10:08] <Blindie_> cfhowlett, i asked the question allready, i have a pc wit spdif out and a 5.1 sourround system. My soundcard supports dolby digital live and i want to use it under ubuntu
[10:08] <Touhou11> ste22x: Please be aware while Skype works correctly on Ubuntu, it's proprietary software which Microsoft altered away from a decentralized architecture so that conversations could be monitored.
[10:08] <Blindie_> normaly spdif can only transport 2 channels ore encoded dolby digital ore dts
[10:09] <cfhowlett> Blindie_, ubuntu-restricted-extras might be in your interest
[10:10] <ste22x> are there any mixer software  ect  i  should install
[10:11] <ste22x> to play multiple  programs
[10:11] <Blindie_> hmm, didnt help cfhowlett
[10:11] <mr4eyes> like DJ mixing software?
[10:11] <Blindie_> i need a on the fly dolby digital encoder ore dts encoder
[10:12] <aaronmehar> how do I send stnderr to null? $2>/dev/null ??
[10:13] <Blindie_> when there isnt anything like that, there is no way to use ubuntu for me :(
[10:13] <cfhowlett> Blindie_, is there a windows program you use?
[10:14] <Blindie_> yes, this are implemented in the driver ( i have the creative soundblaster x-fi titanium)
[10:16] <cfhowlett> Blindie_, ask #opensourcemusicians
[10:17] <Blindie_> theanks
[10:18] <fidel__> ste22x: regarding mixing application. have you tested: mixxx?
[10:18] <fidel__> it emulated a mixer & 2 turnrable like playback devices
[10:19] <cfhowlett> Blindie_, I've got apps in my ubuntustudio which I never use - pretty sure at least one is a DJ console ...
[10:19] <Blindie_> ?
[10:19] <ste22x> no  i  haven't
[10:19] <fidel__> ste22x: then consider taking a look on it ;)
[10:20] <fidel__> not sure if it fits your needs - but its a basic mixing app
[10:20] <ste22x> will that work with the pulse audio
[10:20] <fidel__> ste22x: afaik yes
[10:20] <cfhowlett> ste22x, yes
[10:20] <fidel__> cfhowlett: sorry if i interupted
[10:21] <cfhowlett> fidel__, no worry
[10:21] <ste22x> ok   i'll  switch to ubuntu   from lubuntu   and install  the mixxx
[10:21] <fidel__> ste22x: no need to change that
[10:21] <fidel__> just install the app
[10:22] <fidel__> ubuntu / lubuntu is more or less the same anyways.
[10:22] <macs> ste22x yes switch from lubuntu, I initially downloaded lubuntu because it's marketed as simple, but just download ubuntu, i've found it much better to work with
[10:22] <ste22x> i  have the alsa  now
[10:22] <fidel__> and if it comes to installing and testing mixxx - there is really no need to change anything at that point
[10:23] <fidel__> macs: its both the same - overall - just showing another curtain
[10:23] <ste22x> even though   aren't  alsa and pulse audio   somehow connected together
[10:43] <G[zero]D> Hi all, anyone can help me teamviewer problem, when I launch, I receive a specific message: "Critical Error - Verification of your TeamViewer version failed! TeamViewer will quit for security reasons. Please reinstall TeamViewer."
[10:45] <Rory> G[zero]D: How did you install teamviewer? What Ubuntu version are you using?
[10:45] <Blindie_> hmm, it looks like there is no way, good by linux :(
[10:46] <G[zero]D> Ubuntu 13.10
[10:46] <G[zero]D> Clean install
[10:46] <Ben64> teamviewer doesn't work great in linux, you should use something native. like VNC
[10:47] <G[zero]D> I need to manage a lot of remote desk
[10:48] <Rory> G[zero]D: How did you install Teamviewer? What version did you install?
[10:48] <Ben64> !info remmina | G[zero]D
[10:48] <Touhou11> G[zero]D: Why not contact Teamviewer support?
[10:49] <G[zero]D> No man, RDP and VNC ins't solution..
[10:49] <Ben64> uh, why not
[10:49] <Radhasafn> I'm trying to add the ubuntu universe ppa and what I get is something about a json object not being decodable?
[10:49] <Rory> G[zero]D: How did you install Teamviewer? What version did you install?
[10:49] <G[zero]D> NAT/PAT
[10:49] <G[zero]D> I have try to install TV9 32bit
[10:50] <Rory> Radhasafn: How are you enabling it? it isn't a PPA it's an official repository. All you need to do is tick the box in the Software Sources application
[10:50] <Rory> G[zero]D: Where did you download the installer?
[10:50] <G[zero]D> in ubuntu 64bit native with i386 arch
[10:50] <G[zero]D> official site
[10:51] <G[zero]D> Ben64, many people isn't able to open a port for, PAT
[10:51] <Radhasafn> Rory, well, I don't have that box because I pulled that out of the OS, I'm using sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -sc) universe"
[10:51] <Rory> Radhasafn: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[10:51] <Ben64> Radhasafn: why on earth are you enabling universe like that
[10:52] <Radhasafn> Rory, I'm technically on bodhi which is an ubuntu fork though.
[10:52] <G[zero]D> Rory, Ben64 ....after two days I have now solve the problem
[10:52] <Radhasafn> Ben64, because it doesn't come with the standard graphical tool
[10:52] <Rory> Radhasafn: That isn't supported here
[10:52] <Radhasafn> bodhi is basically ubuntu with everything pulled out.
[10:52] <Radhasafn> Hmm
[10:52] <Rory> Radhasafn: What's the output of "lsb_release -sc" ?
[10:53] <Ben64> sorry but Rory is correct, bodhi isn't supported in this channel
[10:53] <cfhowlett> Radhasafn, perhaps but the best place for support of a distro is from the distro managers
[10:53] <Radhasafn> empty string
[10:53] <Rory> Radhasafn: That's why it isn't working then
[10:53] <cyt93cs> Hello folks, my machine stops at the boot fsck screen, and I don't know which option to choose. Could someone help me? The screenshot: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/t5tceaxgmnj02ub/UuXi0SAFBA
[10:53] <Rory> Radhasafn: Ask bodhi support
[10:53] <Radhasafn> Well, I figured there was something with the PPA since I read this bug a lot on the internet googling for it
[10:53] <Radhasafn> Many people are reporting they are suddenly getting this JSON error
[10:53] <Rory> Radhasafn: It isn't a PPA
[10:54] <Radhasafn> On this repo alone so I thought maybe there was some known bug with the JSON object
[10:54] <Radhasafn> Hmm
[10:54] <cyt93cs> What do F /S / M mean?
[10:54] <Radhasafn> Oh well, I see what they know at bodhi
[10:54] <Ben64> cyt93cs: that does not look good. what is you type "S"
[10:54] <Rory> Radhasafn: The command is very simple, it's failing becase it's trying to add "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu <empty_string> partner"
[10:54] <Ben64> what if**
[10:54] <G[zero]D> rm -fR .config/teamviwer9 && sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 $$ sudo aptitude upgrade && sudo dpkg -i team*.deb && sudo aptitude install -f
[10:54] <Rory> and instead oe empty_string it's expecting a release name like "saucy" or "raring"
[10:54] <saluq> i have a question if some one can help...
[10:54] <cfhowlett> cyt93cs, is this installed or from the boot USB
[10:54] <cfhowlett> !ask|saluq,
[10:55] <cyt93cs> cfhowlett: installed
[10:55] <saluq> okay thank you
[10:55] <cyt93cs> cfhowlett: after power on
[10:55] <cfhowlett> cyt93cs, first boot?  I'd say a nomodeset issue ....
[10:56] <Radhasafn> Rory, ahh
[10:56] <cyt93cs> cfhowlett: not first boot
[10:56] <Radhasafn> I think this one is based on raring
[10:56] <Ben64> cfhowlett: to me it looks like it can't mount the /home partition, but the text problem i have no idea
[10:56] <Radhasafn> Let me try that
[10:57] <Rory> cyt93cs: Can you press "f" when that prompt comes up?
[10:57] <cfhowlett> Ben64, i couldn't/didn't read the message - appears to be a rendering issue thus my guess of nomodeset
[10:57] <saluq> i am "attempting" to boot the Ubuntu 12.04.1 Live Disk on a HP Omnibook 6000 are there any boot or kernel variables that i can use to reduce resource load?
[10:57] <Ben64> Radhasafn: bodhi still isn't supported here, and you'll likely break your system by doing what you're doing. you should go to bodhi support
[10:57] <cyt93cs> Rory: what do you guess for "f"?
[10:57] <cfhowlett> saluq, try lubuntu instead if ubuntu is too demanding
[10:57] <cyt93cs> Rory: I don't have any idea :(
[10:57] <Radhasafn> Ben64, okido
[10:57] <saluq> awesome thank you
[10:58] <trupheenix> how can i use ssh keys from the file explorer in Unity?
[10:58] <Rory> cyt93cs: Not f actually, I don't think that will do anything. I believe the error you're getting is this one http://askubuntu.com/questions/120/how-do-i-avoid-the-s-to-skip-message-on-boot
[10:59] <saluq> my problem is just that is takes a long time like it has been loading for the past hour or so
[11:00] <trupheenix> how can i use ssh keys with nautilus?
[11:01] <strk> help: I've uninstalled compiz and unity and remained with no desktop :> -- installing "ubuntu-desktop" gave me back something but I'm still missing the menu
[11:01] <cyt93cs> Rory: thanks for the reference. maybe f is fix? Let me try it.
[11:01] <strk> what implements the unity menu n the left ?
[11:03] <cyt93cs> Rory: it start to fsck, great
[11:03]  * cyt93cs leave for a while for dinner
[11:03] <Rory> cyt93cs: I guess like a pro
[11:03] <cyt93cs> Rory: awesome!!
[11:03] <Rory> strk: It's a compiz plugin called Unity
[11:04] <strk> thanks guys
[11:05] <strk> can I switch the display to "text-ode" after boot ?
[11:06] <strk> rescue mode with these tiny fonts and extremely slow rendering is not comfortable at all :/
[11:09] <cfhowlett> strk, if your system is struggling I'd suggest you test lxde orr xfce4 desktop environments.  you might find xubuntu or lubuntu more digestible
[11:09] <Touhou11> strk: For a slow system I'd recommend using Arch Linux with a simple WM rather than a full-blown desktop environment
[11:11] <ikonia> recommending a distro change to arch to change a desktop - is stupid
[11:11] <ikonia> just use the desktop you want to use, there is no need for a distribution change
[11:12] <strk> you didn't get me, I was out of X
[11:12] <strk> ** (gnome-terminal:20723): WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: Could not open network socket
[11:12] <strk> maybe that's my problem
[11:13] <Touhou11> The package setup of Ubuntu is optimized for a few desktop environments. While you can use it as a minimalist distribution, you have to fight against the defaults
[11:13] <strk> and dbus issue too
[11:14] <ikonia> there is no "fight" against defaults, you can install/remove what you want
[11:14] <Touhou11> ikonia: Yes, but it will take more work. Have you actually tried Arch? Seems like Ubuntu defence force
[11:14]  * strk often fights
[11:16] <ikonia> Touhou11: I've tried arch yes, and I have zero problem with it, however suggesting it a fix to a desktop change is just wrong, nothing less than "wrong"
[11:17] <ikonia> Touhou11: to suggest installing a different desktop is "more work" than changing a distro and building it from the ground up - is again, just wrong
[11:17] <ikonia> Touhou11: there is no ubuntu defense here, just bad advice defense
[11:18] <Touhou11> You're right, in the short term it takes longer to get Arch running. But due to the rolling-release model, over months/years of use the user will save time
[11:18] <ikonia> Touhou11: that's just nonsense too
[11:18] <ikonia> Touhou11: he's asking to change a desktop/window manager, not change a whole distribution and release model
[11:19] <Touhou11> Many people new to Ubuntu aren't even aware rolling-release is a possibility
[11:20] <ikonia> Touhou11: so telling them to blindly change distros is a "fix"
[11:20] <Touhou11> Agreed
[11:22] <sAnonim> hey, I have weird problem with avconv - I can't set constant output bitrate
[11:23] <sAnonim> I am using bitrate 8000k maxrate 8000k minrate 8000k but output video has 10-12M bitrate
[11:23] <sAnonim> Can anyone help me?
[11:29] <cummseng> i just unbinded a device using pci-stub, how do i undo it?
[11:29] <sxt> hi, I have to rename all files in a directory with names like 1.dat, 2.dat, 3.dat etc. by date, any ideas about a tutorial explaining how to accomplish something like that? massive renaming of files
[11:30] <abdou> hi
[11:31] <sAnonim> sxt: you can write a script, just loop while there are files in directory and for each file rename it to data and id
[11:31] <sAnonim> sxt: so for example you will have 20131220-1,20131220-2....
[11:32] <Touhou11> There's a command-line tool called "rename", just use that
[11:39] <strk> well, the menu isn't back yet
[11:40] <strk> I only have the background. Luckly I discovered CTRL-ALT-T to open a terminal, or I'd still be lost
[11:40] <strk> right-click on the desktop background doesn't give me any way to access the manu
[11:40] <strk> *menu*
[11:40] <strk> I have compiz, compiz-plugins, compiz-gnome
[11:41] <strk> compiz is also running
[11:41] <strk> what am I missing ?
[11:41] <blurkis> is there any way of checking the motherboard chipset via terminal to get the data on the chipset,  to see how much ram it can handle?  I want to upgrade to more ram, but unsure of the maximum?
[11:42] <strk> uhm, another thing: DISPLAY is :0, but can't be opened !
[11:42] <strk> Error: Can't open display: :0
[11:42] <blurkis> The limits is in the chipsets, i persume..  so having the name might ease a google search
[11:42] <dv-> blurkis: check the board manual
[11:42] <blurkis> dv-, used computer, strange brand and no manual :(
[11:42] <strk> that's from a terminal opened with CTRL-ALT-T
[11:42] <blurkis> strk, e machine something.  not sold for some year.. :(
[11:42] <PatrickDickey>   blurkis, I believe the chipset information will be in dmesg somewhere. But don't quote me on that.
[11:45] <blurkis> seems the emachine 1840 is sold with 4gb (2gb in each slot,) so the slots are full.   but cant find info if its doable to for example put 8gb in it..
[11:45] <dv-> blurkis: running lshw or dmesg like PatrickDickey said should tell you exactly what board you have
[11:46] <strk> gah, I rebooted, and now DISPLAY starts at :4.0
[11:46] <strk> what's that randomness !?
[11:48] <blurkis> dv-, thanks.  though google found me a page stating that maximum memory is in fact 4gb.  Strane though..   these limitations..  I meen, the computer is not that old. Why manufacture a motherboard that with so low limitations?
[11:49] <PatrickDickey> blurkis, you answered your own question earlier. e-Machines. They make them as cheaply as possible. So, you don't get a whole lot. You probably don't even have AMD-V or VT-x (for virtualization) in your BIOS either.
[11:50] <pulsar78> fritsch: solved it =)
[11:50]  * pulsar78 goes Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
[11:51] <pulsar78> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6605147/
[11:53] <PatrickDickey> Have a good day everyone (or night). I'm off to bed shortly. It's getting late (or early, if you're a normal person) here.
[11:57] <strikov> Hi guys. On one of my machines (which runs saucy) I have 'ubuntu:!:<...>' line inside /etc/shadow but still can login to machine using ssh keypair. On the other (experimental machine which runs trusty) in the same situation sshd doesn't allow ubuntu user to login (because account is locked) and I have to put 'ubuntu:*:<...>' to /etc/shadow to make it work. Which behavior is correct? Thanks
[12:08] <TomyWork> maxvi, ppa or compile
[12:08] <dp_wiz> or backports repo
[12:09] <TomyWork> or that
[12:11] <TomyWork> my ssh server changed host keys, out of the blue, from rsa to ecdsa. it's pretty much impossible that it has been taken over, and there hasnt been an ssh server update since november, so what else is going on there? some kind of EOL code?
[12:11] <maxvi> TomyWork: Thanks it works!
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> TomyWork: you have denyhosts installed to block ssh intrusion?
[12:22] <Kartagis> ubuntu stopped recognising my micro-sd card in my phone
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: what does /var/log/syslog say?
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> Kartagis: or do a tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug in your sd card
[12:24] <strk> what provides the top bar in an ubuntu desktop ? I've lost it (togheter with the left bar)
[12:24] <strk> someone told me before that the left one was a compiz plugin named "Unity", but I dunno how to check it's enabled
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> strk: did you uninstall unity?
[12:26] <strk> lotuspsychje: I did, but then I tried to re-install it evidently without success
[12:27] <Kartagis> lotuspsychje: nothing regarding :S
[12:27] <strk> dpkg -l | grep unity | awk '{print $2}' > unity.lst # http://strk.keybit.net/tmp/unity.lst
[12:27] <strk> lotuspsychje: ^
[12:31] <TomyWork> lotuspsychje, denyhosts isnt relevant, the server isnt exposed
[12:43]  * strk installs gnome-shell and finds yet anothe kind of thing
[12:43] <strk> can I drop unity again, now that I have gnome-shell ?
[12:53] <winmutt> how does bash know my .py is a python script? its using the wrong script
[13:02] <Magicpants> hi is there anyone that can help me with an issue that i have
[13:02] <cfhowlett> !ask|Magicpants,
[13:02] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[13:02] <anew> ~/ is this the same thing as /
[13:02] <anew> ?
[13:02] <Magicpants> !ask
[13:03] <obachan> anew: ~ translates to your home folder
[13:03] <anew> ok thx
[13:03] <obachan> so ~/ = /home/anew/ and / = /
[13:03] <anew> ah
[13:04] <pulsar78> seems i have grub and grub2 installed , is it safe to remove grub ?
[13:04] <Magicpants> !ask I recently installed Ubuntu 13.10 and along with it i installed Gnome 3.10, however, the font/text is cut in half on the menus and i have no clue why. See this picutre: http://imgdrop.se/UPL/1387544521nzb.png
[13:04] <Magicpants> I recently installed Ubuntu 13.10 and along with it i installed Gnome 3.10, however, the font/text is cut in half on the menus and i have no clue why. See this picutre: http://imgdrop.se/UPL/1387544521nzb.png
[13:05] <shafox> Has anyone installed elasticsearch ??
[13:05] <obachan> pulsar: do you know which one is active? you could test if its grub2 if you change the order of the boot scripts and rewrite the grub2 config
[13:05] <Magicpants> !patience
[13:06] <zack_> Has anyone tried xubuntu 14.04?
[13:06] <jhutchins> zack_: yes
[13:06] <cfhowlett> zack_, discuss in #ubuntu+1
[13:06] <cfhowlett> !trusty
[13:10] <obachan> :/reload
[13:11] <firmware000> how to swich windows in ircii?
[13:14] <Mike3620>  I keep on doing chmod 0666 /dev/null but it keeps reverting back to 0600 how do I make /dev/null stay at 0666 so that people can use the server?
[13:15] <mattintech> winmutt: do you mean your python script isn't executing?  when you add #!/usr/bin/python and make the script executable it should execute from the cmd line in python
[13:15] <Mike3620> Does anyone know why the file permissions keep changing on /dev/null
[13:16] <cfhowlett> !server|Mike3620,
[13:23] <anew> if i want to set up public/private keys for a user, do i have to be logged in as that user ?
[13:29] <G[zero]D> Hi all, any ideas for ubunti 13.10 x64 with battery problems? Power manager "log" battery not present
[13:31] <Rory> anew: no, just put it in their ~username/.ssh folder
[13:32] <Rory> anew: make sure they're the only user who can read their private key
[13:32] <anew> yeah but that /.ssh folder does not exist
[13:32] <G[zero]D> Rory,  ideas?
[13:33] <Rory> G[zero]D: huh?
[13:33] <G[zero]D> ubuntu 13.10 x64 with battery problems? Power manager "log" battery not present
[13:34] <G[zero]D> I have try to install tlp but without positive result
[13:34] <Rory> anew: You can create the .ssh folder but the easiest way might be to do: sudo su USERNAME -c "ssh-keygen"
[13:34] <Rory> anew: That will run the ssh-keygen command as the user "USERNAME"
[13:35] <jax7> PING:jax7
[13:38] <jax7> PING:jax7
[13:40] <anew> k let me try that
[13:40] <anew> also when i created this new user.. i created a password also... how do i disable password login ? or is that automatic
[13:43] <jax7> Where
[13:47] <kskksksk> hi all, i am trying to install super boot manager but it also asks to install iced tea java, and sdk etc, while i have oracle java already installed
[13:47] <kskksksk> i just want to install super boot maanger, not JAVA ICED TEA
[13:48] <cfhowlett> kskksksk, dependency?
[13:49] <kskksksk> cfhowlett: why this is not checking oracle java
[13:49] <kskksksk> is this not compatiable with oracle java
[13:49] <cfhowlett> kskksksk, I don't have the right background to answer that question.
[13:51] <kskksksk> i have a metered connection  and will this not conflict with  oracle java plugin
[13:51] <jhutchins> kskksksk: Whoever built the package either did not make it compatible with oracle java or did not tell it that oracle java met the requirements.  The fact that they require an SDK to run the program is a sign of a very typical and shoddy build process.  I would recommend avoiding this package and any java package from this source.
[13:52] <cfhowlett> jhutchins, upvote for clear, concise reponse!
[13:53] <kskksksk> jhutchins: thanks, but recently it was working  well,
[13:53] <kskksksk> i reinstalled ubuntu
[13:54] <kskksksk> and now this problem, and iced java was not also installed  at that time
[13:54] <kskksksk> i always install oracle java, because most of time ICED java not works like charm
[13:55] <jhutchins> kskksksk: Nothing you have said changes my answer.
[13:55] <kskksksk> jhutchins: :D
[13:56] <kamika> Hi os there a way to install Ubuntu without the X11??
[13:57] <BluesKaj> kamika, on a server?
[13:58] <kamika> BluesKaj, no on a computer
[13:58] <BluesKaj> kamika, why not X ?
[13:59] <kamika> because is to use on a project that runs on ubuntu
[13:59] <cfhowlett> wait, server isn't a computer anymore?  dammit!
[13:59] <Lucid_Lynx> is there a way , or not ?
[13:59] <cfhowlett> no one told me!
[13:59] <BluesKaj> hehe
[13:59] <Rory> Lucid_Lynx: Install the server edition, it doesn't include an X server
[14:00] <kamika> BluesKaj, basically the ideia is a computer that boots and runs the console program..
[14:00] <BluesKaj> kamika, then the server edition is for you
[14:00]  * cfhowlett thinks that sounds just like a ... server!
[14:00] <BluesKaj> !server
[14:01] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, uhmm , yeah :)
[14:01] <Artemis3> kamika, Lucid_Lynx, i'd suggest minimal instead of server :3
[14:01] <kamika> BluesKaj, ok i'll try it...
[14:02] <zykotick9> !mini
[14:02] <kamika> Artemis3, tks i'll try that too. It runs a OpenCV project
[14:02] <maru123> hola
[14:02] <maru123> alguien quiere una noche ak
[14:02] <Artemis3> kamika, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD you have to choose command line install (f5 or something)
[14:02] <maru123> ashdkaj chau
[14:02] <ariel_17> maru123: nah
[14:03] <Rory> !es | maru123
[14:03] <maru123> "join #ubuntu-es
[14:03] <trippeh_> hey. just downloaded ubu 12.04 LTS 64-bit and the image has amd in name, i have i5, should i get another image?
[14:03] <Rory> maru123: /join #ubuntu-es
[14:04] <Rory> trippeh_: No, amd64 means 64-bit
[14:04] <kamika> Artemis3, thanks, i'll check that
[14:04] <zykotick9> trippeh_: if you want 64bit that's the right image.  works for intel and amd.
[14:05] <trippeh_> thx
[14:06] <inashdeen> hi there, I am looking for an app where I can search the net quickly, like a google toolbar we see in android. Is there such thing for ubuntu? thanks. Secondly, How can I install ubuntu touch interface in a 64 bit ubuntu? thank you
[14:07] <Rory> !touch | for your second question inashdeen
[14:07] <Rory> inashdeen: for your first question, there's a Unity lens for duckduckgo which allows you to search the web from the dash http://askubuntu.com/questions/224604/how-to-search-google-in-dash
[14:07] <inashdeen> thanks
[14:07] <Rory> No problem, glad I could help :)
[14:09] <trippeh_> install/partitioning should swap be 1st partition?
[14:10] <Rory> trippeh_: It doesn't matter
[14:12] <datandroiddude> WHat is the Channel for Ubuntu for android?
[14:13] <Rory> !touch
[14:13] <fidel__> datandroiddude: i guess sonmething with #ubuntu-touch or simular
[14:13] <Stanley00> !alis | datandroiddude
[14:15] <hansford> can someone help me please....I am having trouble of getting sound from rose garden
[14:15] <Rory> hansford: I strongly recommend asking #ubuntustudio channel, they know a lot more about that sort of thing
[14:16] <hansford> Rory....thanks
[14:21] <trippeh_> partitioning|allocating space - do apps/software (adobe,steam) install in /usr .. /usr/bin?
[14:22] <Rory> trippeh_: Yes
[14:22] <Rory> trippeh_: If in doubt, just make one big / partition, or at most, a / and a /home partition
[14:24] <trippeh_> Rory i'm installin ubu as sole os on a 750gb hdd
[14:25] <Rory> trippeh_: Then you may as well use the guided partitioning, it is sensible
[14:25] <Rory> trippeh_: Unless you know you have specific needs, in which case you wouldn't be asking :)
[14:26] <trippeh_> last time i used linux in 2003, i'm rusty
[14:26] <Rory> Just use the guided partitioning "use entire disk"
[14:27] <trippeh_> can ubu rwx on ntfs mount?
[14:27] <trippeh_> thx
[14:27] <Rory> trippeh_: Yep, we have write-access to ntfs with the ntfs-3g FUSE driver (a lot has changed since 2003)
[14:28] <trippeh_> i sure hope so, i had to write my own video driver back then
[14:28] <Rory> stuff tends to just work now. even wifi
[14:30] <trippeh_> i decided to go for linux to get better sync phone/tablet/pc/laptop
[14:40] <trippeh_> ubu image burn. managed to burn on 700mb cd with nero/win7(overburn?!), how can i do it using ubu?
[14:43] <Rory> trippeh_: I don't know anything about that, it doesn't fit on a CD. You should use a DVD or a flash drive
[14:44] <blinky_> Hi all, running xUbuntu through vmware with a cyborg RAT7 mouse, anyone know how to get all the buttons to work so I cant use the thumb buttons as back/forward.  Hvae tried editting the xorg.conf and xev still doesn't show an input.  Any ideas?
[14:45] <Rory> blinky_: Can you please show me your xorg.conf?
[14:45] <Rory> Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[14:45] <blinky_> Section "InputClass"
[14:45] <blinky_>         Identifier "Mouse Remap"
[14:45] <blinky_>         MatchProduct "Saitek Cyborg R.A.T.7 Mouse"
[14:45] <blinky_>         MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
[14:45] <blinky_>         Option "ButtonMapping" "1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 0 0 0 0 0"
[14:45] <FloodBot1> blinky_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:45] <blinky_> 	Option "ZAxisMapping" "8 9"
[14:45]  * Rory sighs
[14:46] <trippeh_> Rory i managed to write the ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64 image on a 700 mb cd, i found the cd so nvm my last question
[14:48] <trippeh_> i used win7/nero -> copy cd /overburn option
[14:48] <blinky_> Any ideas
[14:49] <Rory> blinky_: Can you please show me your xorg.conf?
[14:49] <Rory> Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[14:49] <Rory> blinky_: Don't paste multiple lines into this channel or you'll get muted again, and probably kicked
[14:49] <blinky_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6606049/
[14:50] <blinky_> yeah didnt know that first time, learning the hard way mate
[14:50] <Rory> blinky_: I did say...
[14:50] <Rory> blinky_: Thanks. Could you do the same for the output of the command "lsusb -v" ?
[14:50] <Rory> blinky_: you can do "sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit; lsusb -v | pastebinit"
[14:52] <lost4468> hi, I just installed linux and at first the internet is really slow, and after you run the system for ~10 mins the interent eventually stops working, I'm using a wireless internet with a RTL8187
[14:52] <Rory> lost4468: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[14:52] <lost4468> 12.04
[14:53] <blinky_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6606070/
[14:54] <Rory> Ah blinky_ you're in a VM, I didn't see that. It won't work in a virtual machine because it just presents to the system as "VMWare Virtual Mouse" and not your actual hardware
[14:54] <Rory> blinky_: You'll have to install Xubuntu properly on its own partition
[14:55] <blinky_> though that might be the case.  I am holding off doing a full install just yet as I use both windows and linux.  I am very new to linux and fall back onto windows a lot at the moment.
[14:55] <blinky_> Will get there soon, cheers for your help.
[14:55] <Rory> lost4468: Are you able to follow the instructions in this answer http://askubuntu.com/a/178017/62969 ? Or would you like me to help you with it?
[14:55] <Rory> np blinky_ you know you can dual boot? it's not one or the other?
[14:55] <Rory> blinky_: when you install you can move a slider to allocate hard drive space between Windows and Xubuntu
[14:56] <Rory> blinky_: and when you boot your computer you get a menu so you can choose
[14:56] <blinky_> Yeah I have a dual boot running at the moment, just prefer having acces to both at the same time.  Will have a look into running a vmware of windows within linux one day
[14:56] <Rory> That's probably a better way round to do it unless you play games on Windows
[14:57] <dv-> WINE can be used to play many windows games
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !steam
[14:57] <lost4468> Rory the download links for the drivers just send me to http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/
[14:58] <blinky_> I do play games, however, I have a seperate install of win7 for gaming.  I starting Android app dev at the moment and have been playing with Android OS's so am spending more and more time in Linux at the moment.
[14:58] <Rory> Also PlayOnLinux is pretty nice. I just pressed a button and it downloaded and installed League of Legends for me :)
[14:58] <blinky_> Have heard that is coming along nicely, when I can get BattleField and Hawken installed on Linux I dont see a need for Windows anymore :)
[15:00] <Rory> I'll give it 2 years before Linux becomes a first-class citizen thanks to Valve's SteamOS. Anyway it's getting a little #ubuntu-offtopic in here :)
[15:01] <blinky_> Cool, well cherrs for your help and I will be back later with more ubuntu questions. Have a doo Christmas all.
[15:01] <blinky_> good*
[15:01] <Rory> blinky_: Have a doo christmas too
[15:01] <lost4468> thanks Rory, I can do that, I'll go try it now
[15:08] <makara> hi. I'm having trouble connecting VPN on 13.10 to a Windows VPN (pptp).
[15:08] <makara> i'm following this: http://labnotes.decampo.org/2012/12/ubuntu-1210-connect-to-microsoft-vpn.html
[15:10] <ses1984> i have a system with intel integrated graphics, and an nvidia graphics card. i have two monitors connected to nvidia, and one connected to intel. three monitors this way works almost perfectly
[15:10] <gordonjcp> how can I stop things "sticking" to the top bar in Unity?
[15:11] <Rory> gordonjcp: Disable edge snapping
[15:11] <ses1984> the problem i have is that the system doesn't seem stable with the open source nvidia drivers. it crashes randomly and more often when the graphics are being used, like transparent desktop effects, moving windows around, playing video, etc
[15:11] <ses1984> the other problem is that if i install the nvidia proprietary drivers, i lose the ability to see output through the intel graphics
[15:11] <Touhou11> ses1984: Feel free to contribute bug fixes to the open source drivers
[15:11] <ses1984> i'm not sure if that's a configuration problem that i can fix, but i haven't been able to figure it out yet
[15:12] <ses1984> Touhou11: if i could i would. that would be like saying "you took your car in to get it fixed. feel free to contribute a better design to GM" -- i'm not a mechanical engineer. i'm not a driver developer
[15:13] <ses1984> i haven't even been able to figure out any evidence that the system logs as to why it crashes. it's a hard crash. i can't use any keyboard commands. i can't switch to another tty
[15:13] <gordonjcp> Rory: where is that?
[15:13] <ses1984> i cant alt-sysreq RSEISUB
[15:13] <Rory> ses1984: you got a S in there twice, bro
[15:13] <Rory> gordonjcp: I think it's in the monitor settings
[15:14] <ses1984> Rory: i heard that the extra S can't hurt. some people actually recommend alt-sysreq SRSESISUSB or something like that. maybe SRSESISUB
[15:14] <ses1984> but that's probably being overly careful
[15:14] <Rory> ses1984: It won't hurt, you're right, it syncs to the disk
[15:15] <gordonjcp> Rory: "sticky edges"? That makes no difference
[15:15] <ses1984> it's normally REISUB right?
[15:15] <Rory> ses1984: REISUB or RSEIUB
[15:15] <ses1984> I find REISUB easier to remember because it's kind of pronouncable
[15:20] <Rory> I just alt-sysrq-b because I live life on the edge
[15:20] <martian> Is there a way to prevent VLC from stealing focus when it finishes playing a video?
[15:22] <Touhou11> martian: Write a simple program to request focus, which takes the video length as the input parameter.
[15:22] <martian> Touhou11: oh, lovely :-P
[15:22] <Rory> martian: you can make it quit after, if you go to settings -> (advanced) -> playlists
[15:23] <Rory> martian: Then it will jsut close after playing something, although I'm aware that's a bit of a hack
[15:23] <martian> Rory: that might not be too bad. It's annoying when I'm coding and suddenly VLC decides to pop up and start taking my keystrokes!
[15:23] <Rory> martian: You could use cvlc if you're using it to play audio
[15:24] <Rory> martian: or nvlc. both those run in a terminal
[15:25] <ryanhellyer> Hello.  Just bought a Lenovo in the hope that it would be compatible with Ubuntu, but it seems that was optimistic :( (I'm trying to work around this problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1211932)
[15:25] <martian> Rory: naah, playing video and I suspect this is happening because I have it set to 'always on top', but when the playlist ends it tells the window manager it no longer needs to be and that that toggles the focus.. I guess
[15:28] <Kajunfiend> is cinnamon de buggy for anyone else
[15:30] <lost4468> Rory I tried that thing you sent me
[15:30] <lost4468> got the following error:
[15:30] <lost4468> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6606259/
[15:35] <Moe_Azraq> Hi
[15:36] <pulsar78> i've overwritten a module, how do i get the original back ?
[15:36] <Moe_Azraq> I am having a problem with getting utorrent to work on my Ubuntu 13.10
[15:36] <Moe_Azraq> Can somebody help me?
[15:36] <ryanhellyer> What is going wrong Moe_Azraq ?
[15:37] <Wiz_KeeD> Anyone use soulseek under ubuntu?
[15:37] <ryanhellyer> It usually is a straightforward installation.
[15:37] <Moe_Azraq> @Ryanhellyer, my computer gets stuck when trying to acces ./utserver
[15:38] <Moe_Azraq> it does not load anything
[15:38] <Moe_Azraq> The version I downloaded is utorrent 3.3
[15:41] <BluesKaj> Moe_Azraq, utorrent has to run in wine , it's a windows app
[15:41] <Wiz_KeeD> I cannot play mp3 files in ubuntu 13.10 saucy :)))
[15:41] <ikonia> !mp3 | Wiz_KeeD
[15:41] <Wiz_KeeD> isn't that like a default feature?
[15:41] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: are you aware of https://help.ubuntu.com - it will answer pretty much all of the questions you've asked to date
[15:41] <Wiz_KeeD> thank you ikonia
[15:42] <Wiz_KeeD> stop patronising please
[15:42] <ryanhellyer> Wiz_KeeD: You need to have selected the restricted formats on installation
[15:42] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no-one is patronising you
[15:42] <lost4468> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6606259/
[15:42] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: you've asked a question, I'm giving you information to fix it and fix other problems you will probably encounter
[15:42] <lost4468> why isn't this working?
[15:42] <Moe_Azraq> BluesKaj, no it is accessible via a webbrowser
[15:42] <Moe_Azraq> on Ubuntu
[15:42] <Wiz_KeeD> ryanhellyer, ahhh I didn't know that, how can I do that at this point in time?
[15:42] <Moe_Azraq> no need for wine
[15:43] <Wiz_KeeD> one sec please
[15:43] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: the url you've just been given tells you how to do it
[15:43] <ryanhellyer> Wiz_KeeD: I think you can access it from the software center
[15:43] <ice9> how to fix the black cursor theme in unity?
[15:43] <kostkon> Wiz_KeeD, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:43] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: hence the "this will answer the question and the others you've asked to date"
[15:43] <Wiz_KeeD> Rhythmbox requires to install plugins to play media files of the following type: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder
[15:43] <josh___> Hello! On the ubuntu repositories, I see packages with versions like "ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>", "ubuntu1", "ubuntu2" etc.  The "ubuntu0..." is clear, but I couldn't find out what the 1, 2 etc mean.  Are these packages for development versions?
[15:43] <Wiz_KeeD> kostkon, will that solve my .avi and other video problems as well?
[15:43] <Moe_Azraq> @BluesKaj, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xloHsGTmsP0
[15:43] <kostkon> Wiz_KeeD, probably
[15:43] <BluesKaj> Moe_Azraq, the torrent sites are yes , but afaik utorrent is a windows exe app , which won't run on linux without wine installed
[15:44] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: READ the link ubottu gave you, it explains the multi-media and codecs
[15:44] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: if you read it you won't need to ask will it fix avi, will it fix mp3, it shows you what it will/will not support
[15:44] <Wiz_KeeD> ok ok
[15:45] <Wiz_KeeD> it says the same thing sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Moe_Azraq, did you check the comments below the player on that url ?
[15:46] <alibama> Hi folks - i'm on ubuntu 10.4 and have to do a php 5.3.2 to 5.3.3 upgrade
[15:46] <alibama> i grabbed php 5.3.3 from here http://www.php.net/releases/
[15:47] <lost4468> I'm trying to install the drivers for my RTL8187, I get the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6606259/
[15:47] <alibama> and have untarred in my home directory… any good tutorials on my next move?  my google-fu is rather weak this morning
[15:47] <lost4468> why?
[15:47] <ikonia> alibama: don't do it
[15:47] <alibama> ikonia: not an option
[15:47] <ikonia> alibama: is the short advice, you should not be building php unless you FULLY understand what's going on
[15:48] <alibama> ikonia: ok - wrong answer
[15:48] <Wiz_KeeD> Wow that solved it, thank you guys!
[15:48] <alibama> i absolutely have to do this - 5.3.2 throws errors, 5.4 breaks the site.  I need 5.3.3 precisely to get this done
[15:48] <BluesKaj> Moe_Azraq, check this out , http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/01/top-5-bit-torrent-clients-for-ubuntu.html
[15:49] <Wiz_KeeD> dude, the clarity of the sound is like twice as better than windows....
[15:49] <ikonia> alibama: then you need to sit down and plan it, understand your system, understand the risks, and plan going forward, as this is not a "just do it" or "follow a tutorial" type thing
[15:49] <ikonia> alibama: is this a production/public facing site ?
[15:49] <ryanhellyer> Sounds like there was something wrong with your Windows installation then Wiz_KeeD
[15:49] <lost4468> probably because you didn't install the sound card drivers correctly in windows Wiz_KeeD
[15:50] <Wiz_KeeD> I mean I exagerated but it sounds a bit better and louder
[15:50] <alibama> ikonia:  i don't think you're following me here.  i have done the blah blah, and I need 5.3.3
[15:51] <ikonia> alibama: the "blah blah" - that shows you don't know what you're doing
[15:51] <alibama> ikonia: no offense or anything, but if you don't have anything useful to add….
[15:51] <ikonia> alibama: believe me - this is useful
[15:52] <alibama> ikonia: dude - getting this site running in a timely fashion is useful, your pedantic ramblings not so much
[15:52] <alibama> ikonia: enough - please
[15:52] <ikonia> alibama: you really don't understand the risks or issues you're going to create doing this rushed
[15:53] <alibama> ikonia: i really don't have time to tell you the background on this, so either send me some useful information or shut up
[15:53] <Wiz_KeeD> Anyone use soulseek in ubuntu?
[15:53] <ikonia> alibama: please don't be rude, I'm trying to stop you making a huge mistake/mess of your machine, if you wish to ignore that and just carry on blind, please do so,
[15:53] <alibama> ikonia: don't waste my time
[15:53] <alibama> ikonia: and i won't tell you how to get there
[15:54] <ikonia> alibama: there are safe ways to do what you want to do - but rushing/tutorial is not the way to approach it
[15:54] <lost4468> Rory are you here?
[15:54] <alibama> ikonia: please - just quit talking - this is  computer work - i've got snapshots of the server, it's all in vm and i need to do an upgrade, ok mom
[15:55] <ikonia> alibama: having shanpshots will not protect you from the risks,
[15:55] <alibama> is there anyway to block someone on irc?
[15:55] <kkkkkkkkkk> hi saludos desde mex
[15:56] <ryanhellyer> ikonia: There may be no risk for alibama. Please shut up like he asked.
[15:56] <alibama> kkkkkkkkkk: que onda tio?
[15:56] <lost4468> can someone please help me get my RTL8187 working properly on 12.04?
[15:57] <kkkkkkkkkk> recordando viejos tiempos del irc alibama
[15:57] <DJones> !es | kkkkkkkkkk
[15:57] <kkkkkkkkkk> :D
[15:57] <kkkkkkkkkk> okz
[16:01] <Moe_Azraq> @BluesKaj, thanks
[16:01] <BluesKaj> Moe_Azraq, np
[16:05] <lost4468> can I get some help with my internet problem?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> lost4468: is it wired or wifi?
[16:06] <itsTodd> I recently upgrade my server to 12.04 and now none of the scripts set to run on boot with update-rc.d are running anymore. The init.d scripts seem to work fine manually but they are no longer running on boot. Any ideas?
[16:07] <lost4468> wifi, I have a RTL8187, the internet on ubuntu 12.04 is really really slow and then gets slower until after about 10 mins it stops working ActionParsnip
[16:07] <lost4468> I was told to update the drivers
[16:07] <lost4468> I tried to and got the following errors
[16:07] <lost4468> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfVn-19v09I
[16:07] <lost4468> oops
[16:07] <FloodBot1> lost4468: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> lost4468: are there lots of wireless networks around you?
[16:08] <lost4468> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6606259/
[16:08] <lost4468> ActionParsnip it works fine on Windows 7
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> lost4468: doesnt answer the question
[16:08] <lost4468> no
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> lost4468: the ones that are around, are they on the same channel?
[16:08] <lost4468> no
[16:09] <lost4468> if it was interference wouldn't I experience the same thing on Windows 7?  with windows (on the same pc) it runs at full speed
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> lost4468: where are you based in the world?
[16:10] <lost4468> UK
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> lost4468: same, leeds :)
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> lost4468: what is the interface name of the wifi?
[16:12] <lost4468> it's an Alfa Realtek RTL8187?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> lost4468: wlan0   etc...
[16:12] <lost4468> I don't know, how do I tell?
[16:12] <eggzeck> Ubuntu One file synchronization loses file permissions?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> lost4468: sudo lshw -C network
[16:13] <lost4468> I'll have to boot into linux again, is there anything else I should do/get?
[16:13] <Rory> ActionParsnip: Wait you live in Leeds?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> lost4468: thats all I need :)
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Rory: yes
[16:13] <Rory> ActionParsnip: high five
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Rory: :), what part?
[16:13] <lost4468> hey Rory I tried what you suggested as well and got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6606259/
[16:13] <lost4468> brb to get it
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Rory: PM if you want
[16:13] <Rory> Yeah lost4468 I have no idea about that compilation area
[16:15] <ice9> how to fix the black cursor theme in unity?
[16:17] <cuddylier> Hi
[16:17] <lost4468> back
[16:18] <cuddylier> Are ubuntu quotas in mb or kb?
[16:18] <lost4468> it's wlan0, do you want the whole output by the console?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: quotes for what?
[16:18] <cuddylier> Users
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> lost4468: just the name is fine
[16:18] <cuddylier> Hard block limits
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> lost4468: sudo iw reg set GB; sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M auto
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> lost4468: does that make it nicer
[16:19] <lost4468> idk I have to reboot, could of told me last time
[16:19] <lost4468> is there anything else to try as well?
[16:20] <cuddylier> ActionParsnip It says someone's file usage is 77799 whenever they're using 41gb
[16:20] <cuddylier> I'm using du -sh to get their directory space usage.
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: depends on file ownership really
[16:20] <cuddylier> If they own only one directory and all of it
[16:25] <lost4468> sudo: iw: command not found
[16:25] <lost4468> sudo: iw: command not found
[16:25] <lost4468> sudo: iw: command not found
[16:25] <lost4468> sudo: iw: command not found
[16:25] <lost4468> sudo: iw: command not found
[16:25] <FloodBot1> lost4468: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:25] <cuddylier> Would '480251' in quotas used mean around 480mb?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> lost4468: sudo iwconfig reg set GB; sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M auto
[16:26] <lost4468> unknown command "set"
[16:26] <lost4468> it actually said iwconfig: unknown command "set"
[16:27] <compdoc> what is 'sudo: iw:' supposed to so?
[16:28] <compdoc> dont need sudo for the command iwconfig
[16:28] <compdoc> but it still works
[16:29] <lost4468> levi@ubuntu:~$ iwconfig reg set GB
[16:29] <lost4468> iwconfig: unknown command "set"
[16:39] <DarsVaeda> hi is someone familiar with deja dup? I want to remove all backups older than one day but I fail
[16:40] <Navel> Hello ppl
[16:40] <PAPARadio> boston
[16:40] <DarsVaeda> I searched for the config cause I suppose deja dup will trigger duplicity but I fail to give a correct url to duplicity as I'm backing up to a windows server
[16:40] <Navel> may be some one have a solution for increase AMD RADEON hd 7750 1ghz edition 2gb (VERDE) in ubuntu or Mint?
[16:41] <Navel> because playing flash games with x.org and poprietary drivers = crap perfomance
[16:41] <ObrienDave> DarsVaeda, if your most recent backups are 'incremental' or 'difference', you DON'T want to clear older backups
[16:42] <DarsVaeda> I have no idea what deja dup creates here
[16:42] <ObrienDave> DarsVaeda, only if your most recent is a 'full' backup
[16:42] <DarsVaeda> I think I will just delete deja dup and try to setup duplicity myself
[16:42] <ObrienDave> ok
[16:49] <jlmarks> good morning folks! am I able to run a script from one of the virtual consoles (ctrl+alt+f1) in my primary session?
[16:50] <mnemon> jlmarks: elaborate
[16:52] <jlmarks> I would like to be able to start tilda from a virtual console and have it run in my primary session. ie go to ctrl+alt+f1, login, run tilda& , and then return to ctrl+alt+f7 and be able to interact with the program.
[16:52] <jlmarks> does that make sense?
[16:54] <mnemon> why don't you just open a xterminal and run it from there?
[16:54] <jlmarks> because when I close the xterm process that I started tilda from, tilda goes away and that is frustrating.
[16:54] <mnemon> ah, right, alt+f2 and run it from there?
[16:55] <mnemon> but yes, you can go to the virtual console and launch it from there probably
[16:55] <mnemon> might have to specify the x display to run it in
[16:55] <jlmarks> that is what I don't know how to do.
[16:55] <scott3> If I'm using the live cd how can I open my encrypted hdd from command line?
[16:56] <pulsar78> dto: net-device-up IFACE=wlan0 or net-device-up IFACE=eth0
[16:56] <mnemon> jlmarks: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1584411/how-to-run-an-x-program-from-outside-the-x-session-e-g-from-the-console-or-ssh
[16:57] <scott3> root@ubuntu:~# cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda1 hdd | Device /dev/sda1 is not a valid LUKS device.
[16:57] <scott3> why am i getting this?
[16:57] <jlmarks> mnemon:  thank you! I was in the X documentation not getting anywhere.
[16:58] <mnemon> np
[16:58] <mnemon> scott3: it's not a valid luks device or the headers are corrupted
[16:59] <scott3> right, but i can open it by clicking on the hard drive icon
[16:59] <scott3> so there must be a luks device somewhere
[16:59] <mnemon> err, are you sure it's encrypted? and that it's the same device?
[17:00] <scott3> i dunno, it must be on sda
[17:00] <scott3> if i type mount i see /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root
[17:00] <scott3> i can't see which sdX it is
[17:00] <mnemon> that's because it's lvm partition
[17:01] <ikonia> thats a logical volume
[17:01] <scott3> ok
[17:02] <scott3> is there a simple way to change the password for my encrypted volume?
[17:03] <scott3> i choose the option to encrypt the file system on installation but for some reason when ubuntu boots it doesn't accept the password, even though the same password works when opening it from the live cd
[17:07] <mnemon> scott3: do "lvscan" to get the device name, then "cryptsetup luksaddkey devicename"
[17:09] <scott3> root@ubuntu:~# lvscan | ACTIVE '/dev/ubuntu-vg/root' [295.85 GiB] inherit | root@ubuntu:~# cryptsetup luksAddKey /dev/ubuntu-vg/root | Device /dev/ubuntu-vg/root is not a valid LUKS device.
[17:10] <scott3> mnemon: didn't work
[17:15] <esde> Firefox is still being a pain in the. I've got 2 firefox windows open. One minimized and one maximized. Normal I double click on the Firefox icon twice and it shows me both windows. Nope, not when it does this. I have to close one window to maximize the other. So annoying.
[17:16] <mnemon> scott3: hmmh, do "lsblk --fs" -> check which one is crypto_luks -> add the key to it
[17:18] <esde> http://storage7.static.itmages.com/i/13/1220/h_1387559917_6030915_05e80f137b.png Notice the FF icon with the symbol for two windows. lol
[17:20] <mnemon> esde: click once and it should show you both ... or right click and select the other one?
[17:20] <mnemon> (right click the icon)
[17:20] <esde> it wouldnt let me do any of that
[17:21] <esde> it was like it was ignorant of the other window
[17:21] <esde> i gotta run now though :/ CHRISTMAS PARTY woooooo
[17:21] <scott3> mnemon: ok, that worked but it tells me no key available with this passphrase - the same passphrase works if i move with the ui though
[17:21] <scott3> mount*
[17:22] <mnemon> scott3: are you using some non-ascii characters in it? can't really think of anything else ...
[17:23] <mnemon> scott3: also apparently http://askubuntu.com/questions/95137/how-to-change-luks-passphrase
[17:26] <scott3> mnemon: nah... i'm using some characters but they're ones on the keyboard
[17:26] <scott3> thanks anyway, i think i'll just reinstall, might be quicker :D
[17:27] <mnemon> hehe :)
[17:28] <user82> hi. i got some missing thumbnails for data on a external hdd. i removed the ~/.thumbnails folder but they have to be stored somewhere else. is there a second thumbnail folder somewhere?
[17:29] <user82> i know for sure that it can create them now.
[17:32] <dab_> Hi guys
[17:32] <ozette> what's the moonlight package for mozilla firefox called?
[17:32] <dab_> My WIFI adapter isn't showing up in the list
[17:32] <JohnathanLyman> Moonlight...
[17:33] <dab_> I ran lshw -C network and still they don't show up
[17:33] <dab_> any ideas?
[17:33] <Galup> test
[17:33] <Galup> i am french
[17:34] <Galup> and speek french
[17:34] <zykotick9> !fr | Galup if you're interested
[17:35] <Galup> test
[17:35] <Galup> i am french
[17:36] <mnemon> dab_: is it disabled?
[17:36] <Galup> i speak french
[17:37] <dab_> Yes, I guess - I don't see the usual light(looking for better vocab) against the wireless icon
[17:37] <MadsRC> Can someone help me? I've removed unity and lightdm and have another DE installed (i3) - Whenever I type startx I get a blank screen with a mouse (Which must mean it doesn't load my DE) - Reinstalling my DE doesn't make startx start that DE up. What file do I specify what DE to load with startx? I don't have a ~/.xinitrc
[17:37] <dab_> mnemon: How do I enable it then?
[17:37] <zykotick9> MadsRC: create an .xinitrc and add "exec i3" or whatever the i3 command is...
[17:37] <MadsRC> Thanks, lemme try :)
[17:38] <MadsRC> Worked, thanks!
[17:38] <pobric> which ubuntu is lts ??
[17:39] <zykotick9> pobric: 12.04 right now, 14.04 will be next
[17:39] <pobric> which ubuntu is lts ??
[17:39] <pobric> which ubuntu is lts ??
[17:39] <pobric> ok thanks
[17:39] <Galup> do you help for me? y am french
[17:39] <mnemon> Galup: go to #ubuntu-fr
[17:39] <dab_> Guys help? How do I enable  wifi in Ubuntu
[17:40] <Galup> oui mais je n'y arrive pas
[17:40] <Galup> ok thank you very much
[17:41] <pobric> can I run the ubuntu 12.04 on 1.8ghz processor 512 mb ram 40 gb hdd ?
[17:41] <mnemon> dab_: are there any hardware switches and/or key combinations for enabling it on your machine? i'd check the compatibility of your wifi adapter with ubuntu ... it should show up in lshw if it's 1. enabled 2. there's a module for it loaded
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> pobric  12.04 and the next will be 14.04, in april
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> pobric  try it with a live usb or dvd
[17:42] <zykotick9> !requirements | pobric
[17:43] <zykotick9> pobric: with 512MB RAM... it'd try lubuntu (not sure if it's a LTS release or not?)
[17:43] <pobric> is lubuntu have libre office like mint or ubuntu ?
[17:45] <pobric> is lubuntu have libre office like mint or ubuntu ?
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> pobric  it's in the repos
[17:47] <seanh__> Anyone know how I can bind F1 to a custom keyboard shortcut? (Ubuntu 13.10) The problem seems to be that F1 is bound to Help in the settings app, so if I press F1 to try and choose the key as a binding, it opens Help
[17:48] <seanh__> If I could unbind F1 from Help in the settings app, that might work, but I don't see how
[17:48] <SonikkuAmerica> pobric: Not by default, no. AbiWord and Gnumeric are installed by default. You can install Libreoffice via the Lubuntu Software Center, Synaptic Package Manager, or [ sudo apt-get install libreoffice ] in terminal.
[17:51] <dab_> mnemon : thanks.  looks like there is some problem with the wifi switch. Though its still on, I dont seem to see any led flashing. Does this have anything to do with incompatibility?
[18:01] <havv> I'm trying to install qbittorrent on Xubuntu 13.10, I've added the ppa and latest version there is 3.1, but I keep getting 3.0.11... Why is that?
[18:04] <nightdemon666> anyone else in here instead of working while earning about $30 an hour!?
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> nightdemon666  wrong channel
[18:08] <nightdemon666> lol @ MonkeyDust
[18:09] <Rory> havv: Can you please show me the output of the command "sudo apt-get update"
[18:09] <Rory> Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[18:11] <havv> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6607007/
[18:12] <riqdiiz> MonkeyDust: hi
[18:12] <genii> !schedule
[18:13] <genii> Hm.
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> genii: what are you searching?
[18:14] <genii> lotuspsychje: The factoids differ from #ubuntu to #ubuntu+1 , in this case the #ubuntu one is correct and the #ubuntu+1 one is still saying Saucy
[18:15] <genii> Will adjust shortly, after my lunch
[18:15] <Rory> wow havv I have not a clue :s
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> genii: cool, good to know you work on factoids
[18:16] <kostkon> havv, they haven't actually managed to build the package for 13.10. it says there were build failures https://launchpad.net/~hydr0g3n/+archive/qbittorrent-stable/+packages
[18:17] <kostkon> havv, maybe wait until they sort it out
[18:17] <havv> kostkon: oh :/ I'll use Transmission for now I guess
[18:17] <kostkon> havv, it shouldn't take that long
[18:17] <havv> I have some problem with opening magnet linkes with 3.0
[18:18] <kostkon> havv, have you tried deluge
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> havv: did you copy paste the magnet link then paste into 'open url'?
[18:19] <havv> lotuspsychje: yes, but I want chromium to open them using qbittorrent by default
[18:20] <havv> I looked it up and it seems there's some issue with xdg-open
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> havv: ive seen some sites are different on that
[18:20] <havv> I tried editing the xfce_open function, but it didn't do
[18:20] <seanz> hitsujiTMO: Greetings. dpkg --purge <kernel-version> was the magic command. :)
[18:21] <seanz> hitsujiTMO: It even calls update-grub for me, which is a bonus.
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> havv: most sites open transmission (firefox) for me, but some sites dont
[18:21] <seanz> Or something about the purge process does, probably the postrm maintainer script.
[18:21] <havv> kostkon: nope, never heard of it. I'll check it out
[18:22] <havv> lotuspsychje: that's weird, but I think in FF there are some preferences where you can choose how to open certain mime types
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> havv: indeed, but some sites just dont like it :p
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> i just letting you guys know ubuntu 14.04 alpha 1 is out, for those who want to try #ubuntu+1
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  it's not for plain ubuntu, iirc
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[18:28] <dj_> how  can i use internet on ubuntu server 12.04 lts as i have to login my usrname and password details in my ISP's home page in order to use internet...pls help me out
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: testversions right?
[18:29] <smallfoot> Should /boot/efi be on sda1, sda2 or sda3 or where?
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> !efi | smallfoot
[18:29] <SonikkuAmerica> smallfoot: It should be on whatever is your EFI partition (verify that using parted or GParted, it's the FAT32 partition you see)
[18:29] <smallfoot> Yeah, I read that. It didn't mention if it should be sda1 or sda2
[18:30] <smallfoot> Yeah, I don't have any EFI partition, so I have to create one
[18:30] <SonikkuAmerica> smallfoot: Do you have a GPT partition table?
[18:30] <smallfoot> SonikkuAmerica, I don't know
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> dj_: maybe try an text base browser, like links2 ?
[18:31] <SonikkuAmerica> smallfoot: Does you computer have a Windows 8 logo on it?
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> smallfoot: whats the output of sudo fdisk -l
[18:31] <smallfoot> SonikkuAmerica, no, I built it myself
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> !info links2 | dj_
[18:31] <SonikkuAmerica> smallfoot: Then do as hitsujiTMO said.
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> imghost: you helped davinia few days ago
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> imghost: just saying tnx for your help, and she fixxed it with a bios setting, now shutdown normally
[18:32] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, fdisk -l have no mention of either mbr or gpt
[18:33] <Guest38625> why is opera not in the ubuntu repos
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> smallfoot: can you pastebin the output so i can make sure. sounds like you've mbr partition then
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> !info opera
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> !find opera
[18:34] <xangua> Guest38625: opera.com when you install it, it adds it's own deb repository
[18:34] <Rashad> Hello. I am at this page http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server and I can't choose.
[18:34] <Rashad> I want to run a Node.js app on my server.
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> Guest38625: because who uses opera? but yeah, like chrome, opera has it's own repo
[18:35] <Guest38625> xangua, thanks - but was it removed for some reason ?? or is there just not a version for saucy
[18:35] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/NwQ8jQnW
[18:35] <MonkeyDust> Rashad  then go for 12.04, as it is LTS
[18:35] <Rashad> Should I choose 12.04 or 13.10 ?
[18:35] <jacob__> is there anyway to increase the sensativity of my wifi card?
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> opera was very popular years ago
[18:35] <Guest38625> hitsujiTMO, some use opera and why remove choices ??
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> smallfoot: you have mbr so you cannot use a uefi install
[18:35] <Rashad> MonkeyDust: I won't benefit from the new features?
[18:35] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, I see
[18:36] <kostkon> Opera is chromium based now
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> Rashad  I don't know what you want, so hard to say
[18:36] <Rashad> What do the new features do?
[18:36] <Rashad> In a nutshell.
[18:36] <xangua> kostkon: not the linux version that i am aware
[18:36] <Rashad> Why are they good?
[18:36] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, if I empty the disk and disable CSM in BIOS, and re-install Ubuntu, it will be with GPT and UEFI?
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> Guest61817: its not a case of removing choice. there's most likely licensing isuues when including opera in the main repo. Just install from opera.com. it will add the opera repo
[18:36] <kostkon> xangua, hmm
[18:36] <jacob__> is there anyway to increase the sensativity of my wifi card?
[18:36] <Rashad> ?havana
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> smallfoot: it should yes.
[18:37] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, I see, thanks
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> Guest38625: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[18:37] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, are there any benefits of using UEFI over UEFI with CSM in legacy BIOS mode? I know GPT supports 2+ TB disks and that MBR does not.
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> smallfoot: not of the benefits that uefi bring do not exit in most systems. for dual booting, its much harder to control who gets to be the boot loader
[18:39] <paws> when i do apt-get update i see Hit http://repo.zabbix.com and i dont see that repo in my sources.list
[18:40] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, so which do you think is better? UEFI or legacy BIOS?
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> smallfoot: paws is it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d?
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> smallfoot: are you dual booting?
[18:40] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, yes, or plan to
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> smallfoot: what OSs?
[18:40] <genii> paws: It's probably in some file under the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/  where the PPA go for instance
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> jacob__: your wifi disconnects?
[18:41] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, probably will be Ubuntu 13.10 (and/or daily-build/alpha of 14.04) and Windows 8.1
[18:41] <jacob__> yes its a very weak signal from upstairs
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> smallfoot: its a difficult choice. but i'd prob go with uefi considering 8.1 is involved and that can have issues on mbr installs it seems. the main thing ithat you will have an issue with in uefi is that any update to the bootloader or kernel will trigger a reinstall of the bootloader to the efiboot manager, which results in that OS being put first on the list. So you may find yourself having to bring up the uefi boot manager more often th
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> an not
[18:44] <smallfoot> I see
[18:45] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, will Ubuntu daily-builds work fine with UEFI too, or will have to wait until stable releases for things to get signed and work?
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> smallfoot: yes it will. the main thing to do tho is to modify GRUB_DISTRIBUTION in /etc/default/grub for each ubuntu install and rerun grub-install. otherwise they'll both show up in the uefi boot menu as just "ubuntu" and you won't know which is which
[18:46] <smallfoot> I see
[18:47] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, can Windows 8 be run with UEFI enabled, but SecureBoot disabled?
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> smallfoot: yes
[18:47] <smallfoot> oh good
[18:47] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, and Ubuntu can be run with either SecureBoot enabled or disabled?
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> smallfoot: yes
[18:48] <Wilsonb2> Howdy
[18:48] <Wilsonb2> What is the best way to complelty backup xubuntu running on a mini pc stick Arm 7?
[18:48] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, I don't see SecureBoot really bringing anything worth to the table though... so question is whether to have SecureBoot enabled or disabled
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> smallfoot: you cant run windows with secure boot enabled anyway on your system since you prob don't have a MS key in the uefi since its not an OEM build
[18:49] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, I see. I got a Asus Z87-Pro motherboard, I bought it from a store and built a computer. I thought the Microsoft key would be pre-loaded from Asus factory?
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> unlikely, its a OEM requirement only
[18:50] <nabocu> hello everybody.
[18:50] <Wilsonb2> Hi
[18:50] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, I see. I was aware it was a OEM requirement for carrying the Windows 8 logo. I thought all motherboards would have the key pre-loaded anyway though
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> smallfoot: Some do, but not all
[18:51] <smallfoot> I see
[18:51] <nabocu> I am sitting at a computer running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and I am trying to get the DVD drive running. Nothing changes when I put in a DVD.
[18:52] <nabocu> trying to mount /dev/cdrom returns "mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0"
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> nabocu  no icon appears?
[18:52] <nabocu> MonkeyDust: nope
[18:53] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, which do you think is good, UEFI with SecureBoot enabled, or UEFI with SecureBoot disabled, or UEFI with CSM for legacy BIOS support?
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> smallfoot: uefi with secureboot disabled is what i generally go with.
[18:54] <nabocu> MonkeyDust: I think I have found the issue. It works fine with a different disc, so it appears to be the disc and not the drive
[18:54] <nabocu> darn
[18:54] <smallfoot> hitsujiTMO, I see. Thanks!
[18:54] <nabocu> Is it possible the drive can't read DVD-R?
[18:55] <hitsujiTMO> nabocu: possibly if its an older drive. some of the original dvd drives could only read either + or - not both
[18:56] <nabocu> hitsujiTMO: It is an LG GDR8164B
[18:58] <nabocu> cd-info only says it can read DVD-ROM
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> http://www.lg.com/au/burners-drives/lg-GDR-8164B-dvd-rom-drive seems to be ok on all formats. must be the disk
[18:59] <nabocu> hitsujiTMO: thanks a lot. now I have to try on a different computer
[18:59] <hacker> hi
[19:00] <hacker> i am hacker
[19:00] <hacker> i will take ur systum
[19:00] <hacker> dead givaway
[19:00] <smallfoot> but i run ubuntu
[19:00] <DJones> hacker: Well thats not very nice, please don't make comments like that
[19:01] <hacker> i eat ribs
[19:01] <hacker> with this dude
[19:01] <hacker> bitch
[19:01] <DJones> hacker: ok, but do you have an Ubuntu support question, you may want to check the channel topic
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> hacker  if you manage to hack linux, please do write a blog about, can't wait to read how you did it
[19:02] <imghost> Me too
[19:02] <IdleOne> commenting on the stupidity of others with equally stupid remarks is best not done in here.
[19:05] <Joit> so what genius messed up the last update, that the api from nvidia dont match anymore and the xserver is messed up
[19:05] <Joit> congrats guys
[19:06] <andyfied> thanks?
[19:06] <andyfied> i tried my best
[19:10] <nabocu> gnaaaah, now it ate my disc
[19:10] <roots9> fresh ubu 12.04 install on aspire v3 - if i use touchpad all system freeze? any ideas what to do?
[19:10] <nabocu> the drive's LED is always on now, the button doesn't do anything anymore and "eject" in terminal returns "can not eject! unfitting I/O control for device"
[19:12] <kostkon> roots9, the system or just your mouse pointer?
[19:13] <roots9> all system
[19:13] <Wilsonb> What is the best way to complelty backup xubuntu running on a mini pc stick Arm 7?
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> Wilsonb  rsync is fast
[19:14] <Wilsonb> I used a flashing tool in Windows to inztall it
[19:14] <roots9> kostkon i can use the usb mouse and keyboard, if i try to use the touchpad i have to reboot (all system freeze:|))
[19:17] <kostkon> roots9, before "rebooting", you haven't actually described what you are doing exactly, it wouldn't hurt to try to go into tty, by pressing ctrl+alt+f1 to f6. if that works, try checking your logs in /var/log. eg. nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:18] <kostkon> roots9, although you could just download the iso again, and reinstall. you could also, try the latest version, 13.10 as well
[19:19] <eldios> Hi guys, I just did a server upgrade from lucid to precise but python remained at version "2.7.4-2+lucid1"
[19:20] <eldios> I need python 2.7 installed, but I want the precise version to be installed
[19:20] <eldios> any hint on how to make the switch?
[19:20] <nabocu> got a pin now
[19:20] <imghost> !python
[19:20] <imghost> !info python
[19:21] <TheLordOfTime> !info python precise
[19:21] <eldios> that package version is installed
[19:21] <eldios> but if I try to remove the "2.7.4-2+lucid1" version
[19:21] <kostkon> roots9, there are a lot of questions like this on askubuntu though http://askubuntu.com/questions/58885/trackpad-touchpad-not-responding-on-an-acer-aspire-5333-2880-how-can-i-get-it.  check the related ones on the right
[19:21] <eldios> it chain-remove many others
[19:21] <TheLordOfTime> eldios: sudo apt-get install python2.7 maybe?
[19:21] <eldios> and tries to install python-3
[19:22] <eldios> TheLordOfTime: it says that it's already installed and doesn't need to be updated (and if you look the lucid version is actually more up-to-date 2.7.4 vs 2.7.3)
[19:23] <kostkon> eldios, lucid had 2.6, precise is using 2.7
[19:23] <eldios> kostkon: well it seems that somebody installed the 2.7-lucid version from a 3rd party repo
[19:24] <eldios> but I also had python2.6 installed
[19:24] <eldios> on lucid I mean
[19:25] <eldios> after the update from lucid to precis it kept three packages
[19:25] <eldios> python2.7, python2.7-minimal and redis-server
[19:25] <kostkon> eldios, reenable the repo, adjust its line to point to 12.04 instead, sudo apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?
[19:25] <roots9> thx kostkon it's the 2-nd reinstall and same problem, i'll start digging on askubuntu
[19:26] <kostkon> roots9, try with 13.10
[19:26] <eldios> kostkon: good hint
[19:32] <guite> hi everyone, can anyone help to do a "mount -t ecryptfs", it's asking me a lot of questions on which I don't have a precise answer
[19:32] <guite> but I can telle you that I let ubuntu install encrypt my partition with default parameters
[19:32] <guite> *tell
[19:33] <Kalel> guite: What kind of question?
[19:34] <jhutchins> guite: Perhaps there is more you should know about working with encrypted filesystems before you try.
[19:35] <Kalel> agreed..
[19:36] <guite> Kalel: http://pastebin.com/s7qmyKQ2 this kind :)
[19:36] <eldios> apt-get install python2.7=2.7.3-0ubuntu3.4 python2.7-minimal=2.7.3-0ubuntu3.4
[19:36] <eldios> did the trick
[19:37] <guite> jhutchins: agreed too, didn't have much choice in fact ;)
[19:37] <fr4n_> yooo people
[19:38] <eldios> cheers thanks ^_^
[19:39] <Kalel> guite: Are you sure the passphrase you had inserted is the right one?
[19:39] <afidegnum> hello, pls I have enabled boost, varnish, and memecash on my  website and teh adsense ads are no more display, I am confused, can you please check at your end if the same situation is happening ? here is the url... http://www.mynicestore.com
[19:39] <Kalel> guite: You could just accept the question..
[19:40] <patmaddox> Hi I'm using monit to start and stop a unicorn process. starting it is fine, but monit can't seem to stop it. My command is   stop program = "/bin/kill -s QUIT `cat /a/jukely-api/current/tmp/pids/unicorn.pid`" with timeout 90 seconds    and if I run the command from the command line, it works immediately, but with monit I get a "'unicorn' failed to stop" and the process keeps running. Any ideas?
[19:41] <guite> Kalel: yes, passphrase is right, my keyboard is correctly mapped and no caps lock... I'll try with copy paste just in case
[19:42] <Kalel> guite: Yes. And if is the first time you're mounting, just accept with 'yes'.. You will, maybe, be able to mount..
[19:46] <fr4nc15c0> hey guys
[19:47] <dytobrj> hello
[19:47] <fr4nc15c0> i need help with ubuntu, is this the right place?
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> fr4nc15c0: yes this is the right place.  ask your question
[19:48] <fr4nc15c0> i got used of windows, i decided to install ubuntu in my laptop
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> fr4nc15c0: ask the question concisely without abusing enter or multiline pastes.  For multiline pastes if you need them, use a !pastebin
[19:48] <fr4nc15c0> but i can't decide between the 12.04 lts and the 13.10
[19:48] <fr4nc15c0> oh, sorry
[19:49] <guite> Kalel: yes on which question ?
[19:49] <TheLordOfTime> fr4nc15c0: here's my suggestion on deciding:
[19:49] <guite> Kalel: I tried default/yes for each question
[19:49] <dytobrj> or both, chances are you searching forums and specific channels for linux
[19:49] <TheLordOfTime> fr4nc15c0: do you want stability, or more "recent" software versions?
[19:49] <fr4nc15c0> i've heard 13.10 got a lot of bugs, but its the latest one.
[19:49] <Kalel> guite: And?
[19:49] <fr4nc15c0> of course i want stability
[19:49] <guite> Kalel: not better :(
[19:49] <TheLordOfTime> fr4nc15c0: i should have rephrased... stability at the sacrifice of more recent version(s) of programs is generally LTS from my uses
[19:50] <glitsj16> patmaddox: perhaps this might help --> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12461432/monit-will-not-stop-script-with-kill-command
[19:50] <guite> Kalel: but... I realize that its saying operation not permitted
[19:50] <guite> Kalel: wtf, I'm on booting from de install cd
[19:51] <guite> (woops, my english)
[19:51] <guite> Kalel: I'm booting from ubuntu install cd
[19:51] <fr4nc15c0> TheLord0fTime: i don't mind having an older version, as long i dont get a fc or something. so you would suggest me the 12.04?
[19:51] <Kalel> guite: Heh.. Yes its probably the problem ( sure it is.)
[19:52] <Beldar> fr4nc15c0, Good to know is 12.04 is a long term release 5 years support, you can upgrade to 14.04 in april another LTS is needed.
[19:52] <guite> Kalel: How can't I be permitted to do whatever I want, I did "sudo -s"
[19:52] <Beldar> if*
[19:53] <fr4nc15c0> also, i will use it for android development, so i need maximum stability for this
[19:53] <Kalel> guite: Is the encryption..
[19:53] <kostkon> fr4nc15c0, or just install 13.10 and upgrade to the next lts, ie 14.04 in 4 months
[19:54] <kostkon> time*
[19:54] <fr4nc15c0> i think i will just install the 12.04 for now, and then upgrade it to 14.04
[19:54] <Kalel> guite: In the same way you cannot mount an ordinary encrypted partition in your hard drive.
[19:54] <fr4nc15c0> well, thanks for the help guys!
[20:01] <ice9> I changed the cursor theme to black from the unity tweak tool but it's not working correctly
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> ice9  like: invisible?
[20:03] <ice9> MonkeyDust, on most areas it's the white theme, sometimes shows the black
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> ice9  guess it's for better visibility: white on a dark background and vice versa
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> ice9  try to change it back with your theme manager
[20:06] <patmaddox> glitsj16: that helps immensely, thank you! :)
[20:06] <glitsj16> ice9: it might be related to x windows (or parts) That
[20:06] <glitsj16> ice9: .. that don't get what you've set as preference
[20:07] <glitsj16> patmaddox: very welcome
[20:08] <zykotick9> ice9: if you try a non-compiz based DE, I'd bet your cursor theme would work as expected...
[20:08] <glitsj16> ice9: the alternatives system has an entree you might try: just set it to the same theme as in your gnome preferences, i believe it's called x-cursor-theme
[20:12] <fernando_> hola
[20:15] <ali> hi
[20:16] <Guest92997> yes
[20:17] <Guest92997> ali
[20:23] <Wilsonb> IcePee:
[20:23] <fatjon> hi all. i hava ubuntu 13.10  and cant get skype. what can i do?
[20:23] <teeco_> Anyone take a crack at solving this Chromium riddle?
[20:23] <teeco_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/393517/lubuntu-why-wont-chromium-to-run
[20:24] <xangua> !skype | fatjon
[20:29] <smallfoot> Why isn't Skype in Ubuntu Software Store?
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> smallfoot  because it belongs to some enterprise in redmond
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> smallfoot  guess you can find it, if you activate the 3rd party repo
[20:31] <YOURBESTFRIEND> skype is proprietary software, please don't use it
[20:31] <YOURBESTFRIEND> it does not respect your freedom
[20:32] <smallfoot> yes skype sux
[20:32] <gordonjcp> why do people use skype anyway?
[20:32] <smallfoot> to watch gurls boobies
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> because they have the freedom to use proprietary software, i guess
[20:33] <glitsj16> teeco_: in my chromium there isn't a Preferences folder either, but it's a file: -rw-------  1 glitsj16 glitsj16 107626 Dec 19 05:02 Preferences .. and to make sure it isn't a permissions issue, you can try to make a fresh folder anywhere under your /home, make sure you give it the permissions you want and feed that as default config folder to chromium in its start command (--user-data-dir=DIR switch)
[20:33] <alexandrite> i wish for skype to improve their preferences :(
[20:34] <alexandrite> guys
[20:34] <alexandrite> why doesn't chromium work on youtube?
[20:35] <Wilsonb> Using Vino vnc server in xubuntu since Teamviwer wouldnt(get error saying it only works for i386) .. works great but, cant figure out how to get it runng before log in. Menning, I turn on the T428 mini Pc stick and it boots up with vino server running before login
[20:35] <teeco_> @glitsj16 thanks for the tip
[20:36] <glitsj16> teeco_: something you can at least fiddle with, would be my first cracked riddle :p
[20:36] <teeco_> glitsj16: haha def worth a shot!
[20:37] <gordonjcp> Wilsonb: could you set the user to auto login?
[20:38] <teeco_> @glitsj16: just so strange that this is happening on fresh, new installsof lxde, lubuntu and xubunutu that I've tried so far. And on fresh, new ubunutu servers
[20:40] <teeco_> @glitsj16: for kicks, I installed lubuntu on Virtualbox running on my windows pc and chromium works totally fine.
[20:40] <glitsj16> teeco_: strange indeed, do you get this with different versions of chromium?
[20:40] <Beldar> alexandrite, Did you install the restricted extras, in regards to chromium and flash?
[20:41] <alexandrite> Beldar, I think I installed flash
[20:41] <alexandrite> Beldar, what are the restricted extras?
[20:41] <teeco_> glitsj16: hmmm, i haven't tried different versions. Just did apt-get install lubuntu. which comes loaded with chromium. On the other desktop environments I did apt-get chromium-browser. Not sure how to get other versions
[20:42] <Beldar> alexandrite, That is not an answer to my question, and I think mens nothing. ;) The restricted extras installs flash some other codecs and a choice of ms fonts.
[20:42] <Beldar> means*
[20:42] <alexandrite> Beldar, package names?
[20:42] <alexandrite> What's the name of the package for flash?
[20:43] <Wilsonb> @gordonapj - I dont see a place to set account to autologin
[20:43] <Beldar> alexandrite, ubuntu-restricted-extras  feel free to do some of this your self we exspect to to to some extent.
[20:43] <Beldar> alexandrite, Carefully read the posts, I said where flash was.
[20:44] <Wilsonb> gordonjcp: dont see that option
[20:44] <alexandrite> Hmm?
[20:44] <glitsj16> teeco_: i know of one PPA that seems quite reliable, it offers the latest dev version so that might throw other issues in your riddle mix --> https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/chromium-dev .. be sure you have ppa-purge onboard to be able to fall-back if things go irie
[20:45] <glitsj16> teeco_: i'm not sure it is a chromium issue though, so that might be overkill
[20:45] <xangua>  alexandrite for flash only, flashplugin-installer
[20:46] <lenzeor> Hello there. I have a question regarding the Ubuntu installation. I want to dual-boot Windows XP and Ubuntu 12.04 and the installer is dong an excellent job. When I am prompted to set up partition size in the ubuntu installer, there's this slider. Cool, but which side is Ubuntu and which side is XP?
[20:46] <alexandrite> xangua, installed :)
[20:46] <gordonjcp> Wilsonb: what exactly are you trying to do?
[20:47] <Beldar> lenzeor, You recognize that XP is not far from end of life right? and a rather precarious ms OS.
[20:47] <alexandrite> $ whereis flashplugin-installer
[20:47] <alexandrite> flashplugin-installer: /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer
[20:47] <bbqroast> Hello?
[20:47] <glitsj16> teeco_: the error you get when strating it from cli, Xlib: extension "RANDR" missing on display.. askubuntu, google, many different proposed fixes, seems quite random,hence difficult to pin down
[20:47] <glitsj16> *starting
[20:47] <lenzeor> Beldar, I know I know. 7 is too ressource intensive (and harder to pirate) though.
[20:48] <bbqroast> Hello, I've got Ubuntu Sever 12.04 and have just moved 120GB to a external disk mounted under /media/usb/. The move happened immediately, but as neither disks could move that fast how long should I wait before removing the disk?
[20:48] <Beldar> lenzeor, If you are running a pirate XP that is even more dangerous, and even metionong this can get you in trouble here.
[20:49] <Wilsonb> Either use gnome sharing or vino vnc server at bootup of mini pc stick, without having to log in locally to start service
[20:50] <Beldar> mentioning*
[20:50] <lenzeor> Beldar, I need Windows for work. My hardware is too slow for 7. What's your recommendation?
[20:51] <Beldar> lenzeor, For what?
[20:51] <gordonjcp> lenzeor: I've heard that windows 7 is faster than XP if you stick in enough memory
[20:51]  * gordonjcp has been playing with XP at work, it works about as well as Ubuntu 12.04 on the same hardware
[20:52] <lenzeor> I really dont want to buy 7
[20:52] <gordonjcp> sorry, not XP, Win 7
[20:52] <gordonjcp> the one that looks like KDE, is that windows 7?
[20:53] <lenzeor> depends on the version of KDE youre talking about
[20:53] <lenzeor> :)
[20:54] <Toyraztory> Hello, wHat is the terminal like for accessing home directory?
[20:55] <areckx> cd
[20:55] <areckx> just type cd and it'll bring to home dir
[20:55] <areckx> or cd ~/
[20:56] <Toyraztory> thankyou!
[20:58] <Beldar> lenzeor, If your work is important to you then running a legit safe OS seems to be a priority, it would be for me anyway.
[20:58] <lenzeor> Yes youre right
[20:58] <lenzeor> Ill try if the software I need works in a VM
[20:59] <Spirality> Question. How would one make a bootable Ubuntu USB stick? I'm not looking for an install. The instructions I follow result in the USB still asking to install to my computer when I boot from it.
[20:59] <Spirality> Wow, that wording is tricky.
[21:00] <Spirality> I seem to have broken the USB stick I tried it with.
[21:00] <Guest96985> Is it me or is the internet excessively laggy tonight?
[21:00] <Beldar> lenzeor, I have the advantage of being a college student so all my MS purchases of OS's have been incrementally small, the only real regular priced app was word
[21:00] <Spirality> When I boot from it, it says something about killing init! and then panic occurring.
[21:01] <Iriez> Beldar: Belgarath is looking for you
[21:01] <Iriez> and so is polgara fyi
[21:03] <Beldar> Iriez, Heh I have studied comparative myth, it is all the same. ;)
[21:03] <Iriez> one of my favorites btw.
[21:03] <mintux> Hi there . does anyone know about  fit-PC3 or mini-pC? can i use it as small home server ? doesn't damage ? or get hurt because it should be always ON ? any experience ? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0088XENK4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3J2VUK9571N8X
[21:03] <Iriez> Im a wheel of time addict.
[21:05] <chonguilhos> hello. I have a dell latitude, with a fresh ubuntu 12.04 lts install. i can see the audio sliders, but i got no sound, at all
[21:06] <chonguilhos> sound testing dont show nothing
[21:06] <Beldar> !sound | chonguilhos
[21:06] <chonguilhos> thanks
[21:09] <Beldar> mintux, short of anyone having used either this is a poll, the channel does not support polling. Research it on the web with the server of your choice.
[21:09] <mintux> ok
[21:10] <glitsj16> teeco_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/220504/how-to-make-chromium-browser-start-on-vnc-display has another take on your issue .. it suggests trying 2 different chromium profiles
[21:11] <chonguilhos> well, on the troubleshooting all steps are ok, the card is detected by the system, the module is installed, isnt muted, alsamixer volumes are all way up, pulse audio on desktop slider all up, sound configuration with volume on 100%. still no nsound
[21:12] <chonguilhos> im considering aplay something.wav would have sound
[21:12] <Beldar> chonguilhos, I would look on askubuntu with that exact computer model and dell...etc as far as sound problems.
[21:13] <Beldar> or specific hardware
[21:13] <chonguilhos> on phones it worked, tested right now
[21:14] <chonguilhos> on pullse audio configs it changes to phone input and its all right. microfone works also
[21:14] <chonguilhos> but removing the phones theres nothing, ill search askubuutnu
[21:14] <Beldar> chonguilhos, Sound problems are not real common here, so specified web searching would be what I would do while waiting, this probably is not just experienced by you alone.
[21:18] <BluesKaj> chonguilhos, which audio chip, aplay -l
[21:19] <reconmaster> what is the best way to maintain software in your home directory? just replicate the headings in /* into /home/* ?
[21:21] <SteveBell> hi all. beginners question about formatting a partition on a big drive. one partition is ext4 and 2tb. that should stay, second partition on that drive is currently ext4 and should be formatted to ntfs, ok if data is gone. is that possible?
[21:21] <reconmaster> like binary software installation, are developers rigourous enough that I can just keep extract their /bin /share /lib files directly into my home directory?
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> SteveBell  gparted can do it or fdisk, if you prefer the cli
[21:22] <SteveBell> so right clicking and format in the file manager won't work?
[21:22] <aslamK> Hi, all. Having trouble with apt-key/gpg. Symptom: apt-get started warning of NO_PUBKEY even though the keys are there; 'apt-key list' begins with: "gpg: keyblock resource `/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d//webupd8team-y-ppa-manager.gpg': resource limit"  Any ideas?
[21:30] <teeco_> glitsj16: thanks! That looks like it might solve my issue
[21:30] <teeco_> glitsj16: I'll also give that other dev a shot. Appreciate the help!
[21:31] <Beldar> SteveBell, This in internal or external drive?
[21:31] <Beldar> an*
[21:32] <glitsj16> teeco_: very welcome, i donate the prize to your charity of choice .. although i don't know any that might appreciate cracked riddles
[21:32] <SteveBell> external
[21:32] <ice9> how to force a certain app to use the global menu?
[21:32] <SteveBell> Beldar want to start gparted but dash won't react to my clicks might have to restart…
[21:33] <Beldar> SteveBell, How big is the drive, and is it to be plugged in and read by other than a Linux OS?
[21:33] <pulsar78> how do we check progress for checking an md5sum ?
[21:33] <bekks> pulsar78: We dont. We just wait until we get the md5sum.
[21:34] <pulsar78> bekks: i already have the checksum
[21:34] <Beldar> ice9, name the app to begin with, and whether it is a cli app.
[21:35] <ice9> Beldar, its the tor browser, so firefox
[21:35] <Beldar> ice9, You downloaded this and just extracted it?
[21:35] <stefanaus> ciao
[21:36] <ice9> Beldar, yes
[21:36] <stefanaus> !list
[21:36] <[Gentoo]> ciao
[21:36] <[Gentoo]> !list
[21:37] <stefanaus> ciao
[21:37] <glitsj16> ice9: if the app has no support for the global menu it i don't think you can force it, but there is a var you can try at least, add UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=1 before the app's start command
[21:37] <Beldar> ice9, Not sure myself I use the gnome shell, I think it can be incorporated into to the OS so that it appears in the menu, just a guess though.
[21:37] <ubuntutis> i need help should i configure for phpmyadmin with dbconfig-common
[21:38] <Beldar> ice9, Personally I would leave it out of the OS, and a user only, not in the root install.
[21:38] <deadmund> Is there a media library manager that I can use to browse video files similar to how e.g. banshee will pull out artist and title and stuff from my messy music folder?
[21:38] <ice9> glitsj16, didn't work
[21:38] <SteveBell> Beldar:  3TB: 2TB and 1TB partitions. currently it is ext4, but maybe NTFS is better since then I could (maybe?) read that partition from oS X as well (which would be awesome, because I need to write a ton of files to it what come from os x)
[21:39] <Beldar> SteveBell, Ah, my concern was a windows read as usb plugins in windows only read a ntfs if the first partition.
[21:40] <casey> Question: How can I install JRE?
[21:40] <Beldar> SteveBell, all my externals are ntfs.
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> !jre
[21:40] <glitsj16> ice9: i believe the firefox-globalmenu package might be worth a shot, although since 13.04 that's quite empty, what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[21:40] <Beldar> SteveBell, I don;t use any apple OS however.
[21:42] <SteveBell> Yes, no native NTFS support as expected but tools exist
[21:42] <SteveBell> and much easier than getting access to an ext drive
[21:42] <SteveBell> sorry ext partition
[21:42] <dk0r_> With 13.10, is it necessary to blacklist nouveau after installing proprietary drivers via the 'Additional Drivers' utility ?
[21:42] <SteveBell> so NTFS and ext partition on the same drive are no issue?
[21:42] <deadmund> dk0r_: No, not always, but it usually helps to guarantee that the correct driver is loaded.
[21:43] <glitsj16> ice9: looks like it the firefox-globalmenu package only contains a changelog and a copyright file, not much there either i'm afraid
[21:45] <xangua> "The Tor Browser developers recommend against installing any add-ons in TBB which they haven't audited." says a comment on http://www.webupd8.org/2013/12/tor-browser-bundle-ubuntu-ppa.html ice9
[21:45] <Kron> is there a version of bumblebee that depends on nvidia-331?
[21:45] <dk0r_> deadmund: thanks. I installed 319 via the 'Additional Drivers' gui but are reboot 'lsgw -c video' said I was still using nouveau.
[21:45] <pulsar78> thats not really strange now is it ?
[21:45] <deadmund> dk0r_: Then definitely blacklist nouveau or uninstall it temporarily
[21:45] <hitsujiTMO_> kron: steamos is not supported here ;P
[21:46] <Beldar> SteveBell, You might ask in a apple channel would be my recommendation, I see at least 3 that have enough users that you will probably get a quick answer.
[21:46] <Kron> is 331 a steamos driver or something?
[21:46] <hitsujiTMO_> yes
[21:46] <andyfied> heh, software updated just died
[21:47] <andyfied> mm, looks semi serious, will brb
[21:47] <dk0r_> deadmund: yeah, I blacklisted via /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf and set nomodeset in kernel line but system would not boot.
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO_> kron: currently steamos is the only distro that supplies it
[21:47] <Kron> oh. I saw it in xorg-edgers.
[21:47] <Calinou> xorg-edgers is a PPA, not supported here
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO_> Kron: ppas arent supported here either. they should supply a version of bumblebee if its required
[21:48] <Beldar> SteveBell, With 3 terrabyte that would be a gpt partition table, in general ext and ntfs are fine on the same HD, I would check on access on those channels is all.
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO_> from: btw, there's lost of issues with 331 and optimus atm, so might not be worth the upgrade
[21:49] <deadmund> dk0r_: Then your card / system doesn't support that video driver :(
[21:49] <SteveBell> Beldar the access ntfs partition part is fine. the question is just how I get that second partition from ext to being ntfs. gparted was suggested. I see http://cl.ly/image/2R082O451s2y
[21:49] <bekks> SteveBell: Delete it, recreate it.
[21:49] <SteveBell> bekks but which partition to delete?
[21:50] <SteveBell> and delete from where? gparted or file manager?
[21:50] <Beldar> SteveBell, gotta unmount it to do it, you can change it or delete and bulid one.
[21:50] <bekks> SteveBell: The one you want to be ntfs.
[21:50] <Beldar> build*
[21:50] <dk0r_> deadmund: hm. The (old) card, an 8400GS is noted as being supported in the driver documentation. Perhaps I'll try that ppa user repo.
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> Kron  from the launchpad page: "For questions and bugs with software in this PPA please contact xorg crack pushers."
[21:51] <deadmund> dk0r_: You know more than I do about it at this point.  Ask in the #nouveau channel
[21:51] <Kron> okay!
[21:51] <SteveBell> wtf, again I can't click on the dash?!? just restarted because of that.
[21:52] <Beldar> SteveBell, unmount the swap then the sda1 and change it.
[21:52] <Calinou> dk0r_, 8000/9000/100/200/300/400/500/600/700/TITANs are supported by the mainline NVIDIA driver
[21:52] <Calinou> nouveau supports all cards pretty much, but slowly
[21:53] <SteveBell> so the partition is called "backup" I unmounted that partition. can I now select "format" from the file manager right click options?
[21:53] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> is there a apt-get install that can install firefox with flashplayer
[21:54] <bekks> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: apt-get firefox flash-plugin
[21:55] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> not found
[21:55] <dk0r_> deadmund: thanks. Calinou: Perhaps the issue is due to my 8400GS being a pci adapter, Not vga/pci-e device ??
[21:55] <bekks> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: What not found?
[21:55] <Caveat4U> bekks: Couldn't find the package
[21:55] <KI7MT> PR1M3-1NST1NCT, Both are in the repos, FF should already be installed. for Flash, go to SW Center, Click on Canonical Partners then Install Flash.
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> PR1M3-1NST1NCT  apt-cache search flashplugin, then install the appropriet package
[21:55] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> I have it dosent work
[21:56] <bekks> Caveat4U: PR1M3-1NST1NCT: a full error message helps, not just one random line.
[21:56] <bekks> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: Pastebin the entire output of that command please.
[21:56] <SteveBell> wow this is really strange. I keep ending up not being able to type anything. known ubuntu bug on old netbooks?!?
[21:56] <SteveBell> off to another restart
[21:56] <hitsujiTMO_> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: flashplugin-installer
[21:57] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> still didnt work
[21:57] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> hitsujiTMO_
[21:58] <bekks> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: what didnt work? did you pastebin the entire error message yet?
[21:58] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> No ill do it again for the 6th time one sec
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO_> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:59] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> BackTrack 5 R3 - 64 Bit \n \l
[21:59] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> that may explain why
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO_> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: :P
[21:59] <KI7MT> Indeed ..
[21:59] <bekks> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: Then please seek the backtrack support. This is Ubuntu support only.
[22:00] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> well i have and it didnt work so i came here
[22:00] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> but ok
[22:01] <Caveat4U> bekks: They still use a lot of the same cannonical repos
[22:01] <bekks> Caveat4U: And Ubuntu still doesnt support Backtrack :)
[22:02] <bekks> !backtrack | Caveat4U
[22:02] <Caveat4U> And backtrack doesn't support beginners
[22:02] <Caveat4U> bekks: You aren't supporting Backtrack, you are simply helping him add a software source, apt-get update, apt-get install
[22:03] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> agreed, but I have installed flash player before on backtrack but there is a glitch in Backtrack R3
[22:03] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> rather a bug
[22:03] <Caveat4U> you might want to forget flash player
[22:03] <Caveat4U> Use VLC instead
[22:03] <Beldar> Caveat4U, backtrack is eol
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO_> Caveat4U: that is support. And how are we supposed to know the name of the package if we don't use it ourselves
[22:03] <bekks> Caveat4U: I am not doing that. This is Ubuntu support. If he is using Backtrack, then the backtrack support is in charge. It isnt an official derivate, thats more than enough for not supporting it in here.
[22:04] <andyfied> turns out that wasn't so serious :D
[22:04] <Caveat4U> hitsujiTMO_: It's the same package, all he needs is the source added to source.list
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO_> Caveat4U: I don't know that. I don't use backtrack. That's one of the many reasons why its not supported here
[22:05] <Caveat4U> hitsujiTMO_: It's the exact same style, where else is he supposed to go?
[22:06] <bekks> Caveat4U: to the kali-linux support.
[22:06] <bekks> !backtrack | Caveat4U
[22:06] <Caveat4U> bekks: Yup, saw it
[22:06] <Caveat4U> bekks: We aren't supporting backtrack
[22:06] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> kali-linux dosent support backtrack 5 sadly
[22:06] <Caveat4U> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: I know
[22:06] <bekks> Caveat4U: Correct. And we dont discuss that ;)
[22:06] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> so backtrack 5 users are fucked pretty much
[22:06] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> but its cool
[22:07] <Caveat4U> PR1M3-1NST1NCT: just try installing the VLC plug-ins for firefox - that's what I did
[22:07] <IdleOne> !language
[22:07] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> lol ok
[22:07] <KI7MT> Go anywhere but the Ubuntu channel, as BT and it's offspring are nothing to do with Ubuntu an any way.
[22:07] <SteveBell> Beldar: so this is where I'm at: http://cl.ly/image/0M0T2X413V2E not sure how to proceed. file manager or gparted?
[22:08] <SteveBell> and which partition to select
[22:08] <surxenberg> hello
[22:08] <surxenberg> i can't install AMD's fglrx driver on debian testing. i'm using the newest one from amd.com and it says 'dkms part of installation failed'
[22:08] <Caveat4U> KI7MT: bekks: hitsujiTMO_: OK - I conceed - I just feel bad since I've been in his boat before, and it's hard to get any kind of support. I apologize for misusing the #ubuntu channel
[22:08] <surxenberg> ( yes i know this is #ubuntu but maybe ubuntu has the same problem)
[22:08] <kostkon> !debian | surxenberg
[22:09] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> thanks Caveat4U
[22:09] <kostkon> surxenberg, anyway, this channel is ubuntu only
[22:09] <KI7MT> Caveat4U, its a real easy solution, if you want Ubuntu channel support, Install an official Ubuntu Release :-)
[22:10] <hitsujiTMO_> surxenberg: #debian is only one command away: /join #debian
[22:10] <Caveat4U> KI7MT: yup - honestly PR1M3-1NST1NCT, backtrack is extremely advanced and really easy to screw up accidentally
[22:11] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> I know im familiar with BT5 but not BT5 there is a known bug which makes an error that im havin
[22:11] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> BT5 R3 rather
[22:11] <ice9> what is the development channel for Ubuntu?
[22:11] <suhib> hi
[22:11] <SteveBell> Beldar: MonkeyDust any of you know how I can change that existing partition from ext to ntfs?
[22:11] <hitsujiTMO_> ice9: which dev channel are you looking for there's multiple?
[22:12] <ice9> hitsujiTMO_, the main ubuntu dev
[22:12] <Caveat4U> stefcc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[22:12] <Caveat4U> #ubuntu-devel
[22:14] <BluesKaj> ice9, #ubuntu-devel
[22:14] <KI7MT> ice9, there's a boatload of different Buntu-devel channels, if ya log in to the channel, the welcome message give a fare bit of info on the channel's intended purpose.
[22:21] <teeco_> I've got an interesting issue for anyone that is up for a challenge. Fresh install of LXDE and a fresh install of Lubuntu, both on new VPS servers with Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit. For whatever reason, chromium will not run. Even though it comes packed in Lubuntu. Details here for anyone interested in taking a crack. Will buy beer :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/393517/lubuntu-why-wont-chromium-to-run
[22:23] <hitsujiTMO_> teeco_: any output if you try to launch chromium from the terminal ?
[22:24] <teeco_> hitsujiTMO_: yeah, I get this, which I think is actually unrelated: Xlib extension “RANDR” missing on display ":1"
[22:24] <teeco_> see here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/393517/lubuntu-why-wont-chromium-to-run
[22:25] <KI7MT> teeco_, just for background info, this a remote VPS and is a monitor of any sort physically attached to the box ?
[22:25] <SteveBell> does anybody know if file manages formating should be working at all with a 2 partition drive and only one partition being changed?
[22:27] <teeco_> K17MT: correct, remote vps. No monitor attached to the VPS. Also, I tried with xrdp and same issues
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO_> teeco_: actually i think it is part of the problem: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18940380/xlib-extension-randr-missing-on-display-1 can you pastebin the fill trace. You may be missing some sort of display support the app is expecting. maybe try a different vnc server
[22:30] <teeco_> hitsujiTMO: Thanks! I tried with xrdp and had the same results. Should I try something else?
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO_> teeco_: issue is mentioned here too http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15829633/google-chrome-cant-run-in-xvfb-because-extension-randr-missing
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO_> teeco_: yeah i'd try something else, but i'm not familiar with vnc at all so can't make any suggestions
[22:32] <teeco_> hitsujiTMO_ yeah, i'm not familiar with others either. time to learn i guess :)
[22:32] <KI7MT> teeco_, Another option using VNC: https://t3n.zendesk.com/entries/20646106-Steps-to-Install-a-Headless-GNOME-GUI-Desktop-on-Ubuntu-Server-and-Then-Remote-Control-Server-Deskto
[22:32] <KI7MT> You any also want to consider FreeNX
[22:34] <teeco_> KI7MT: It looks like it's recommending TightVNC, which is what I'm currently using. I should try vnc4server, but not familiar with it
[22:35] <KI7MT> teeco_, well, if your going to remote administer a VPS, you really need to understand everything that's happening, so no better time than the present to increase your knowledge base :-)
[22:39] <yorwos> hey guyz i have this question
[22:40] <KI7MT> teeco_, Im not sure the reason you would want / need a full desktop on a server, but Webmin may offer some functionality that skips the Desktop overhead problems.
[22:41] <kostkon> yorwos, we are waiting
[22:41] <yorwos> software & updates drivers say i got a radeon hd 6370M/7370M while i have a HD5450 , should i leave as is ? everything works fine (i have changed to fglrx-updates and still all fine)
[22:41] <yorwos> im after fresh install
[22:41] <kostkon> yorwos, they probably share the same driver so i guess you are fine
[22:42] <yorwos> yeah , but those r M models, i guess for netbooks or laptops thats why i wonder
[22:42] <c_korn> hello, one question: trying to install fontforge:i386 on amd64 there is the error fontforge:i386 : Depends: fontforge-common:i386 (= 20120731.b-3ubuntu1) but it is not installable . well, but there is no i386 version of the package. fontforge-common is Architecture: all . and the version of fontforge-common installed is already 20120731.b-3ubuntu1
[22:43] <kostkon> yorwos, just ignore it if everything works fine
[22:43] <KI7MT> yorwos, If it isn't broke, dont fix it :-) .. but seriously, with Graphics, if there isn't a pressing need to upgrade to a specific driver and all is well at present, it's best left to it's own devices.
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO_> c_korn: whats the output of: apt-cache policy fontforge-common:i386
[22:43] <SteveBell> how can I format a partition from ext to NTFS on a two partition drive?
[22:44] <KI7MT> SteveBell, gparted is a nice GUI based tool for that task.
[22:44] <bekks> SteveBell: start gparted, unmount all used partitions, format the desired partition with the fs desired.
[22:44] <yorwos> im getting into video editing though ,,,, pf
[22:44] <yorwos> hope i wont run into problems
[22:44] <c_korn> hitsujiTMO_: http://pastebin.ca/2515832
[22:44] <aslamK> 'apt-get update' complains of NO_PUBKEY even though the keys are there. 'apt-key list' spits out gpg "resource limit" msg. Need help troubleshooting.
[22:44] <yorwos> waiting for lightworks stable
[22:44] <kostkon> yorwos, which app have you chosen to be your video editor
[22:44] <teeco_> KI7MT, thanks for the link. I'll check out webmin, though not sure it'll work for our purposes. Need employees to RDP to a desktop that looks familiar to them
[22:44] <kostkon> yorwos, oh, nice then
[22:45] <fatjon> i have dual boot ubuntu 13.10 with windows 7. when i star ubuntu from the drug meno it tanke some  time. what can i do for runing faster it at start up?
[22:45] <bekks> !webmin | teeco_
[22:45] <hitsujiTMO_> c_korn: can you pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:46] <KI7MT> teeco_, I doubt Webwin would be the right choice for normal user Desktop interaction, but could certainly help on the sysadmin side of the house.
[22:46] <yorwos> another question plz , is there a neater way to get a directory list like ls |more       (not like list but single column)
[22:46] <Fou> is it really a big jump to upgrade to 13.10
[22:46] <Fou> ?
[22:46] <bekks> KI7MT: webmin will help you break your system, nothing more.
[22:46] <fatjon> i have dual boot ubuntu 13.10 with windows 7. when i star ubuntu from the drug menu it tanke some  time. what can i do for runing faster it at start up?
[22:46] <andyfied> teeco_: i had issues with webmin, vino is installed in ubuntu by default i believe
[22:46] <c_korn> hitsujiTMO_: http://pastebin.ca/2515833
[22:47] <yorwos> so many questions come here heh nice
[22:47] <KI7MT> bekks, I disagree but, there's lots of opinions out there. I've used allot in the past. SSH and command line can break the system too, if you dont know what your doing.
[22:47] <andyfied> teeco_: i got vino working well with tightvnc from windows
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO_> c_korn: localhost:3142 ??? you badly mirroring?
[22:47] <teeco_> maybe I can run tightvnc without dynamic resizing, though I'm not sure that's the issue. XRDP doesn't resize and still have the same issues with chromium
[22:48] <bekks> KI7MT: webmin is certainly know to break debian/ubuntu systems. Recommending it then isnt a good choice.
[22:48] <teeco_> andyfied, cool, i'll check it out
[22:48] <yorwos> how could i get a directory structure alike ms-dos of dir /p   with ls ? ive tried ls|more but i get no details on the files
[22:48] <c_korn> hitsujiTMO_: this is a schroot and I make use of apt-cacher-ng. it is mapped to http://mirror.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pub/linux/distributions/ubuntu/
[22:48] <SteveBell> KI7MT: bekks I need to reformat that partition called "backup" but I#m unsure what to make of gparted: http://cl.ly/image/3s2w0h2a0R07
[22:48] <bekks> KI7MT: webmin handles config files differently, it opens up security leaks, it has issues of breaking services when configuring them.
[22:49] <andyfied> webmin doesn't really give you an idea what it is doing in general. i assumed it would give me some options when i built my raid with it. didn't get them so ended up just using mdadm, which is super easy
[22:49] <bekks> SteveBell: you have only one ext partition there.
[22:50] <andyfied> but thats one of the reasons i didn't like it, then it started doing odd things to my system
[22:50] <KI7MT> bekks,  Ok, the horse is dead, nuff said.
[22:50] <teeco_> For anyone else that may know how to resolve chromium issues on remote desktop environment, could really use the help. Thanks! Full details here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/393517/lubuntu-why-wont-chromium-to-run
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO_> c_korn: the file is on your main mirror so I presume your apt-cacher is broken