[00:18] <miazgator> how do I get mouse gestures to work in konqueror?
[00:29] <wizkoder> Just replaced ubuntuone with kdropbox ;)
[00:29] <wizkoder> When they do not support us. We have to do it ourselves ;)
[00:42] <ednaldo> hello everybody
[00:43] <Spezi> hi ednaldo
[00:43] <ednaldo> hi Spezi
[00:44] <ednaldo> its my first time in here
[00:45] <Spezi> nevermind that ;) can we help you somehow?
[00:50] <ednaldo> of couse, yes
[01:13] <IIVQ> hello
[01:13] <IIVQ> I have installed a new kernel as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MainlineBuilds
[01:13] <IIVQ> but now I have deinstalled it
[01:14] <IIVQ> according to the same manual
[01:14] <IIVQ> but it still is booting into that kernel
[01:14] <IIVQ> how exactly do I boot into my old kernel?
[01:15] <IIVQ> my last days of linux were when you had to manually had to edit /etc/grub.conf but that is now non-existend
[01:15] <Spezi> usually you can choose from different kernel versions in grub before the acutal boot process starts
[01:15] <IIVQ> and /etc/grub.d is a mess of files
[01:15] <IIVQ> Spezi, no, not here
[01:15] <IIVQ> it just picks one (the top, I suppose)
[01:15] <IIVQ> I'm running quite a fresh 10.04 LTS btw
[01:15] <Spezi> and there's no way to get a selection for you?
[01:16] <IIVQ> Spezi, I have no idea how to configure this new version
[01:16] <IIVQ> of grub
[01:16] <Spezi> there must be at least the option to press escape in order to get the grub dialog
[01:16] <IIVQ> also, it makes my screen almost illegible, that's why I ask in chat and not research myself
[01:16] <IIVQ> ok
[01:16] <Spezi> because thats also the only way to get into recovery boot mode
[01:16] <Spezi> i would really be surprised if that wasn'/t possible
[01:17] <IIVQ> but where exactly is the grub.conf file you'd edit as a normal user?
[01:17] <Spezi> erm, it's called menu.lst or something like that
[01:17] <Spezi> i'll have to look to be sure
[01:17] <Spezi> should be /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:18] <IIVQ> no such file
[01:18] <bazhang> its grub2
[01:19] <IIVQ> ah ok
[01:19] <bazhang> !grub2 | IIVQ
[01:19] <Spezi> ah, so it sticks with grub when i constantly update ubuntu, but uses grub2 on a fresh install?
[01:19] <Benkinooby> hi, sometimes after logoff, or when shutdown or reboot it get "(process: 307 ): Glib-WARNING ** : getpwuid-r () : failed due to unkown user id (0)" i have seen some forum threads, stating that this bug seems to be quite commen, but until now, i have not found a solution or a bug reoprt. does anyone of you know this bug and maybe a solution?
[01:24] <Spezi> Benkinooby: sorry, can'/t help you, but .. great nickname :P
[01:26] <Benkinooby> Spezi: thanks
[01:28] <IIVQ> ok
[01:28] <IIVQ> appearently update-grub just installs whatever it finds in /boot
[01:28] <IIVQ> brb, reboot
[01:28] <asif> hi all
[01:28] <asif> am trying to open a particular port on ubuntu
[01:28] <asif> can anyone help
[01:29] <asif> also how do i display my ip info etc
[01:29] <prower> hello :> anyone else using kdenlive in 10.04? it seems that when you select screen grab for the video source and click record, nothing at all happens
[01:30] <IIVQ> hello
[01:31] <IIVQ> thx peoples who just helped me with grub
[01:32] <Spezi> give your thanks to bazhang - i didn'/t know about that grub2 stuff, because i'm on an upgraded 10.04 and it seems to keep grub(1) appearently
[01:33] <bukayo> Spezi: it should have asked you if you want to keep using grub1 or grub2
[01:34] <Spezi> uh 9.10 is already some time ago :) but why would i update to the newest ubuntu version as soon as it's released and then keep an older version of the bootloader .. well .. maybe it was a fatal brainlag
[01:48] <Izinucs> The notification that comes up if you plug in a usb device does not disappear on it's own if you take no action.. How do I get it to "receed" back to the panel after a certain period of time?
[02:42] <AlexLuya_> Hello,How can I make ibut support utilities install by myelf(I am using kubuntu 9.10,currently ibus only support utilities come with kubuntu)
[02:56] <daniel__> list
[02:57] <AlexLuya_> what
[02:57] <AlexLuya_> what do you mean?
[03:21] <gunerh> math
[03:32] <ForgeAus> argh! my wubi died!
[03:35] <Wry_> Hey guys anyone know the multi/universe reposiories for lucid?
[03:36] <ForgeAus> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ lucid universe multiverse (something like that)
[03:36] <ForgeAus> theres also many mirrors
[03:37] <ForgeAus> (and deb-src )
[03:37] <Wry_> cheers! I've been googling my arse off and haven't found anything
[03:39] <ForgeAus> uh I I'd rather stay attached to my bodyparts thanx! hehe
[03:40] <Wry_> what's something I will only find on multi/uni so that I can search b4 and after adding the repositories to test 'em?
[03:40] <ForgeAus> I should know but I can't think of anything specific offhand
[03:41] <ForgeAus> !info smb4k
[03:41] <ForgeAus> thats a universe package
[03:42] <ForgeAus> !info chokoq
[03:42] <ForgeAus> !info choqok
[03:42] <ForgeAus> oh main, ok
[03:42] <ForgeAus> uh, multiverse hmmm..
[03:44] <ForgeAus> note: you shouldn't need to edit your sources.list manually, in kpackagekit you can manage repositories
[03:45] <ForgeAus> its only adding non-ubuntu repos that you might need to edit sources.list
[03:46] <ForgeAus> also a site that may help is to browse to: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ??
[03:54] <Wry_> walked off 4 a bit there
[03:54] <Wry_> Cheerz 4 your help
[04:05] <Wry_> rock'n and rollin'
[04:05] <ForgeAus> argh I need a wubi guru!
[04:05] <Wry_> Any suggestion on good (non fps) online games?
[04:06] <moetunes> !games
[04:06] <hagabaka> playdeb.net
[04:06] <ForgeAus> not really, mostly "good" is a personal taste thing... different people enjoy different game types... I used to enjoy fps before doom killed my eyes
[04:07] <ForgeAus> kewl moetunes :)
[04:07] <moetunes> ;]
[04:08] <ForgeAus> also note: lots of windows games work under wine, check winehq's appdb for more info on particular titles
[04:12] <dewitt> where is the shutdown and restart in kubuntu 10.04
[04:14] <ForgeAus> in the kickoff menu (the K button on the panel down the bottom)
[04:16] <dewitt> in leave menu it only has logout, lock, switch users and hibernate
[04:19] <ForgeAus> (hmmm Lancelot anyone? ... ) of course you could just follow the red icons, and another option is to add the logout/lockout buttons (a plasmoid) to the panel ...
[04:20] <ForgeAus> yet another option is to use the shutdown -h now command in terminal
[04:21] <ForgeAus> dewitt the logout button is how you shut down, I think...
[04:30] <dewitt> logout don't work for shutdown hard to get back in.
[05:04] <Oceanwatcher> Anyone here that can help figuring out a problem with Kontact/Akonadi/MySQL?
[05:06] <dusterl> i'm having problems with a sata harddisk after a few hours of uptime. the disk starts to make constant loud noises as if i'm copying a lot of small files which i'm obviously not. iotop shows no traffic at all.
[05:07] <moetunes> dusterl: it might be getting hot...
[05:07] <scunizi> dusterl: or going bad
[05:07] <dusterl> def. not hot. finger test is negativ :(
[05:08] <moetunes> dusterl: try asking in   ##hardware   they might have a clue
[05:08] <dusterl> the disk keeps making noises even when rebooting and entering bios setup
[05:08] <dusterl> thx. will try there
[05:14] <Oceanwatcher> moetunes: Would you happen to know who to talk to about Kontact problems? The app is freezing after boot. Akonadi reports to be ok, but there are errors in the mysql log and something is definitely not right...
[05:15] <moetunes> Oceanwatcher: I never use kontact - if noone responds best bet is to ask again in a bit or try to google for an answer
[05:16] <moetunes> it takes patcience sometimes...
[05:16] <Oceanwatcher> I have asked a lot... And posted in forums. Been trying to be patient for a couple of months :-)
[05:17] <Oceanwatcher> Only reason I have not gone crazy is that the single apps work, it is just the integrated PIM that freezes.
[05:17] <Oceanwatcher> So fortunately, I have been able to read mail :-D
[05:17] <moetunes> Oceanwatcher: seems you may have a inique prob there - have you changed settings? - might give setting things back todefault a go maybe
[05:18] <Oceanwatcher> Not really changed any settings. :-)
[05:18] <Oceanwatcher> I'll look for someone that can tell me more.
[05:19] <moetunes> k luck
[05:19] <Oceanwatcher> thx
[05:21] <Gamarok___> hey guys i am trying install ubuntu on my pc and well i've decided to first create my partitions in windows and then reassign them in kubuntu well so i wondering how many partitons would i need and of what sizes
[05:46] <ALT-F4> anyone here? I have a serious issue.
[05:47] <moetunes> !ask | pls
[05:48] <CTRL> !ask My hard disk shows up during boot diagnostic but my Ubuntu Live CD partitioner cannot seem to find it, and because of that I cannot install Ubuntu.  What do I need to do?
[05:49] <CTRL> did I do it right?
[05:49] <CTRL> !ask | My hard disk shows up during boot diagnostic but my Ubuntu Live CD partitioner cannot seem to find it, and because of that I cannot install Ubuntu.  What do I need to do?
[05:49] <moetunes> you don't need the !ask bit - taht is a bot link
[05:49] <moetunes> !bot
[05:50] <CTRL> ahh, ok
[05:51] <CTRL> can anyone at least point me to where I may find an answer?
[05:51] <moetunes> I don't know why the hdd didn't show - if you open a terminal you can check with   sudo fdisk -l
[05:52] <CTRL> doesn't do a thing.
[05:52] <moetunes> it doesn't show any hdd's at all?
[05:52] <CTRL> it doesn't return any messages.
[05:53] <CTRL> it just shows the prompt again.
[05:53] <moetunes> did you do the md5 check on the iso and cd?
[05:53] <moetunes> !md5
[05:53] <CTRL> uh, no.
[05:53] <CTRL> But I have installed successfully from this CD before.
[05:53] <moetunes> always a good idea... :]
[05:54] <moetunes> ok then
[05:54] <moetunes> is it just on this comp that it errors on finding the hdd?
[05:54] <CTRL> yes.
[05:54] <CTRL> however, the hdd shows up during the boot diagnostic.
[05:55] <moetunes> afaik that is read from the bios and once the cd is booted it relies on the drivers it has in the kernel
[05:56] <CTRL> what does that mean for me?
[05:56] <moetunes> in terminal/konsole   sudo lshw   will tell the system h/ware - can you paste the output of that?
[05:56] <moetunes> !paste
[05:57] <ytoox> I;ve got an msi x600 with an integrated webcam and microphone, the webcam was working fine but today it did not. It is not found in /dev/video0 and gstreamer-properties does not list it
[05:58] <ytoox> what can I do to re enable the webcam?
[05:59] <CTRL> moetunes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/437670/
[05:59] <moetunes> ytoox: I don't know much about integrated webcams but does   dmesg | less   in konsole show any mention of it?
[06:00] <ytoox> checking...
[06:03] <moetunes> CTRL: for some reason it is calling the ide   scsi1   line 252 - logical name: scsi1
[06:04] <CTRL> what do I need to do?
[06:05] <moetunes> CTRL: you could try looking through   dmesg | less   to see what gets mentioned as to why it uses scsi for the ide while I have a google for it
[06:06] <CTRL> ok, looking.
[06:09] <moetunes> CTRL: seems it is a rare error and the only post I found solved it by d/loading   gparted   ...
[06:10] <moetunes> !info gparted
[06:12] <CTRL> scsi1 : ata_piix
[06:12] <CTRL> so far all I have seen.
[06:12] <CTRL> there is a scsi0 : ata_piix as well.
[06:14] <moetunes> any   PIIX_IDE   ?
[06:15] <CTRL> I haven't seen any in this yet
[06:16] <CTRL> for some reason I cannot select the output and paste it.
[06:16] <CTRL> err, disregard that.
[06:17] <moetunes> k :]
[06:18] <ytoox> moetunes: all I could find was something video but I think it is related to the screen
[06:19] <moetunes> ytoox: afaik if the webcam doesn't get a mention the system didn't recognise it - dead h/ware perhaps - you can compare with an older syslog in /var/log
[06:20] <ytoox> yeah, I agree, but what would be something to do after I read the log?
[06:22] <moetunes> ytoox: depends on if the webcam is kaput or not...
[06:26] <ytoox> mmm, I dont really know
[06:27] <ytoox> ok Ill recheck
[06:27] <ytoox> thanks
[06:27] <ytoox> bye'
[06:27] <CTRL> moetunes: sorry it's taking me so long.  It wants me to copy/paste one screen full at a time, apparently.
[06:28] <moetunes> CTRL: what are you pasting?
[06:29] <moetunes> all of dmesg?
[06:29] <CTRL> yeah
[06:29] <CTRL> although I just scrolled up and saw your advice to download gparted
[06:30] <CTRL> but gparted is the partition editor that comes on the disc.
[06:30] <moetunes> seems to be the only fix for the only post I could find with your issue...
[06:30] <moetunes> ok - it's not the kde partition editor?]
[06:30] <moetunes> is it a kubuntu live cd?
[06:31] <moetunes> CTRL: ^^
[06:31] <CTRL> do you still need to see dmesg?
[06:32] <moetunes> nope
[06:32] <moetunes> I would like to know if it is a kubuntu live cd tho
[06:32] <CTRL> uh, no
[06:32] <CTRL> it's jaunty ubuntu
[06:33] <CTRL> this channel came preinstalled on it so I thought I could get help here?
[06:33] <moetunes> CTRL: if you try in #ubuntu there are more folk and one might have come across this issue :]
[06:33] <CTRL> thanks
[06:33] <moetunes> np :]
[06:33] <CTRL> sorry for wasting your time :/
[06:33] <moetunes> CTRL: do you know how to change channels?
[06:33] <CTRL> I have.
[06:34] <moetunes> CTRL: not a prob mate
[06:34] <moetunes> k
[07:26] <Surlent777> does anyone by chance happen to know how to destroy the vile demons of cutoff when one uses a DMI cable to hook up to a TV?
[07:51] <dhq> need help..... upgraded to ubuntu 10.04
[07:51] <Surlent777> dhq: you're going to need to be a lot more specific
[07:52] <dhq> Surlent777: i have no sound
[07:52] <Surlent777> there we go
[07:52] <Surlent777> okay, have you tried opening a terminal and checking alsamixer?
[07:52] <moetunes> !sound
[07:52] <Surlent777> sometimes things get turned off
[07:53] <Surlent777> or yeah, what he said
[07:53] <dhq> Surlent777: i have set everything up on alsa mixer
[07:53] <dhq> i went to system settings and set my default card
[07:53] <dhq> but still no sound
[07:54] <Surlent777> did you look at the alsamixer settings on the far right, which can be toggled with space? Try turning certain ones on and off while playing an audio file and see if that helps; that's sometimes needed for Audigy cards, among others
[07:55] <moetunes> in konsole does   cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp   make a sound? - be careful it is loud - ctrl+c to kill it
[07:55] <dhq> i have done that
[07:55] <moetunes> dhq: ^^
[07:55] <dhq> ok
[07:56] <dhq> moetunes: bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[07:56] <moetunes> so somethings using it...
[07:56] <dhq> how do i check
[07:57] <moetunes> maybe   lsof | grep dsp
[07:57] <moetunes> everything in linux is a fiule
[07:57] <dhq> pulseaudi  4287        dhq  mem       REG        8,1     80720      40905 /usr/lib/sse2/libspeexdsp.so.1.5.0
[07:57] <dhq> gconf-hel  4299        dhq  mem       REG        8,1     80720      40905 /usr/lib/sse2/libspeexdsp.so.1.5.0
[07:57] <moetunes> s/fiule/file
[07:58] <moetunes> bahh - I remove pulseaudio
[07:58] <moetunes> !pulseaudio
[07:58] <moetunes> dhq: what is speex?
[07:59] <dhq> moetunes: no idea
[07:59] <Surlent777> speex is a speech synthesizer, isn't it?
[07:59] <dhq> Speex is an audio codec especially designed for compressing voice at low
[07:59] <dhq> bit-rates for applications such as voice over IP (VoIP).
[08:00] <dhq> do i need it
[08:00] <moetunes> I thought so - was fishing to see if dhq was running it :]
[08:00] <Surlent777> oh
[08:00] <moetunes> dhq: try in konsole   killall -v speex   and try the audio again
[08:01] <dhq> speex: no process found
[08:01] <Surlent777> moetunes: don't suppose you know anything about cutoff on TVs, do you?
[08:02] <moetunes> Surlent777: if I did I would have given some suggestions sorry :]
[08:02] <Surlent777> heh, I see. thanks anyway I guess
[08:02] <moetunes> dhq: in konsole   ps aux | grep speex
[08:03] <dhq> moetunes: when i run cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp     it just stays there no sound nothing
[08:03] <moetunes> dhq: not   dhq> moetunes: bash: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy   anymore?
[08:03] <dhq> dhq      17361  0.0  0.0   3324   808 pts/2    S+   10:03   0:00 grep speex
[08:03] <moetunes> k
[08:04] <dhq> device not busy anymore
[08:04] <moetunes> dhq: does   aplay -l   return anything?
[08:05] <dhq> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]  Subdevices: 1/1  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[08:05] <moetunes> there's a bot link for intel hd sound but I can't find it...
[08:06] <dhq> oh
[08:09] <dhq> moetunes: should i uninstall anything
[08:10] <moetunes> dhq: sorry was afk - you'll have to follow the bot links from earlier - that's the end of my sound knowledge sorry
[08:11] <dhq> moetunes: thanks for your help :(
[08:11] <moetunes> np
[08:50] <dhq>  implicit declaration of function ‘raw_spin_lock’  can anyone help me
[08:50] <dhq> i was compiling alsa from the snapshots and i get this error ^^
[08:53] <noaXess> hey and good morning..
[08:53] <noaXess> how can i make an upgrade and ignore a specifix package?
[09:10] <Surlent777> hey
[09:10] <Surlent777> just so you know
[09:10] <Surlent777> nvidia-settings has an "overscan" adjuster. I thought that had to do with scanlines. I was wrong. Dragging that around adjusts the display if you're connected to a TV
[09:11] <Surlent777> that is all
[09:24] <dhq> anyone can help me fix sound on 10.04
[09:47] <tux_> hi peeps
[09:47]  * Spire yawns
[09:47] <Spire> morning
[09:48] <tux_> im about to install the nvidia-current driver for my graphic card
[09:48] <tux_> and experienced that i only get the small resolution and the 1280x1024 is not available, even when i change the xorg.conf file
[09:49] <tux_> what is to do?
[09:50] <tux_> i wanted to get the driver from nvidia directly but i cannot stop kdm for some reason
[09:51] <tux_> any ideas how to stop kdm other than "/etc/init.d/kdm stop"?
[09:55] <moetunes> tux_: sudo service kdm stop     afaik
[09:59] <tux_> and what happened to the old command
[10:09] <moetunes> !upstart
[10:10] <moetunes> tux^^
[10:10] <moetunes> o he left...
[10:22] <Ites> Heyµ
[10:22] <Ites> It says there is an upgrade to lucid 10.04 lts and i should do it
[10:22] <Ites> is there any danger of me losing data and or whatever? or is it completely safe
[10:22] <moetunes> !lucid
[10:23] <Ites> i know what it is ^^
[10:23] <Ites> but are there any risks to do it ?
[10:23] <moetunes> nothing is 100% safe - usual caveats about backing up apply
[10:23] <moetunes> :]
[10:24] <moetunes> I haven't heard of anyone losing data tho
[10:24] <w0rm> hai
[10:24] <Ites> oke thanks moetunes
[10:25] <moetunes> np :]
[10:25] <Ites> moetunes:  im upgrading now should i close other apps?
[10:26] <moetunes> Ites: you can use the desktop as normal
[10:26] <moetunes> it will ask for a reboot at the end
[10:26] <Ites> oke
[10:27] <Ites> lol it says it can take several hours to install? -_-
[10:27] <moetunes> depends on your d/load speed ...
[10:28] <moetunes> it will be a 600mb+ d/load
[10:28] <moetunes> it's a new os after all
[10:28] <Ites> 8min to finish dl
[10:29] <moetunes> :]
[10:29] <Ites> dl at 1964 kb/s
[10:29] <Ites> but i'm talking about the install...
[10:29] <moetunes> yeehah!
[10:29] <Ites> i hope they say that for ppl with a crappy pc, several hours...
[10:29] <moetunes> worst case senario
[10:30] <Ites> kk  np then
[11:09] <HollyRain> my partition /var is not enoght for an upgrade? how could I join it together to another part. as /tmp?
[11:12] <IIVQ> Question
[11:12] <IIVQ> my display resolution gets reset every time after rebooting
[11:13] <IIVQ> while searching for a solution I keep coming across this thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9157817
[11:13] <moetunes> IIVQ: how are you changing it pls?
[11:13] <IIVQ> but I can't find my xorg.conf - I'm running a fresh 10.04
[11:13] <IIVQ> via system settings - display settings
[11:13] <moetunes> IIVQ: you have to make one these days
[11:13] <IIVQ> ah ok
[11:14] <moetunes> google for your card and xorg.conf
[11:14] <IIVQ> ok
[11:14] <usf> need help
[11:14] <moetunes> copy and paste - then mv -v    it to /etc/X11
[11:14] <usf> my external hard drive is no more recognized
[11:15] <IIVQ> moetunes, google for card or chipset?
[11:15] <moetunes> IIVQ: card is normally ok
[11:16] <usf> my external hard drive is no more recognized!! can someone help me?
[11:17] <IIVQ> moetunes, hard to find
[11:18] <IIVQ> usf, what happens?
[11:18] <IIVQ> moetunes, is there any way I can create those modelines myself (based on what I'm running now)?
[11:18] <moetunes> usf: run   dmesg | tail   -   then plug it in and run   dmesg | tail   again   - if it isn't mentioned it more then likely is a h/ware failure afaik
[11:18] <usf> ok
[11:19] <moetunes> IIVQ: sure - it is easier to copy one tho
[11:19] <IIVQ> yeah but I can't find one while googling
[11:20] <moetunes> IIVQ: you need to kill X and run   Xorg -configure   to make a file in your home dir
[11:20] <moetunes> IIVQ: what's the card?
[11:20] <IIVQ> msi vn210 md512h
[11:20] <IIVQ> chipset is a gforce 210 (512m)
[11:20] <moetunes> IIVQ: run   lspci   to tell how linux sees it pls
[11:21] <moetunes> or   lspci | grep VGA
[11:21] <IIVQ> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)
[11:21] <IIVQ> ah thx
[11:22] <usf> moetunes: dmsg | tail doesn't give the same result but it didn't mentioned my extern hard drive
[11:23] <moetunes> usf: did it mention usb at all?
[11:23] <usf> just yesterday it worked
[11:23] <usf> it mentions it
[11:23] <moetunes> IIVQ: there's no xorg.conf for that 'cause most folk use the binary drivers for that card it seems
[11:23] <moetunes> !nvidia
[11:24] <moetunes> usf: done an upgrade since it worked?
[11:25] <IIVQ> aargh
[11:25] <IIVQ> stupid bugs
[11:25] <IIVQ> had a freeze again
[11:25] <usf> moetune:no.but lsusb mentions its name
[11:26] <rahul__> How to keep authentication in kde, so that i dont need type password again while mounting drives in dolphin
[11:27] <IIVQ> moetunes, sorry to be such a noob, but how do I quit xorg.conf (on a fresh kubuntu 10.04)
[11:27] <IIVQ> it boots into X
[11:29] <rahul__> IIVQ do you mean you want to have only console?
[11:30] <IIVQ> rahul__, temporarily, yes
[11:30] <IIVQ> so I can run Xorg -config
[11:30] <moetunes> IIVQ: we were all noobs once :] - ctrl+alt+f2   and login
[11:30] <usf> how can i mount it??
[11:30] <IIVQ> moetunes, yeah but you don't want to know how long I work with linux
[11:30] <IIVQ> might be longer than you
[11:30] <moetunes> IIVQ: then   sudo service kdm stop
[11:30] <moetunes> IIVQ: started in '96
[11:30] <IIVQ> ok
[11:31] <IIVQ> I'm an 11-year linux user
[11:31] <rahul__> IVQ gdm if under Gnome
[11:31] <TheAncientGoat> How on earth can Dbus-daemon take up 325 mb ram?
[11:31] <usf> hola
[11:31] <IIVQ> but absent for 2 years and before that working on an 5-year-old gentoo
[11:31] <IIVQ> ok thx moetunes
[11:31] <IIVQ> so I'll login there, then do a Xorg -config
[11:32] <IIVQ> then what? it'll create an xorg.conf that I need to move to /etc/X11 , then sudo service kdm start again?
[11:32] <moetunes> IIVQ: it makes a file   xorg.conf.new   in your home folder
[11:33] <moetunes> you edit that to your liking then move it and yes sudo service kdm start
[11:33] <IIVQ> wait
[11:33] <IIVQ> let me boot up my laptop for support before I do this :-)
[11:34] <moetunes> heh - I'm here for a while mate :]
[11:35] <usf> still waiting
[11:36] <TheAncientGoat> Seems like its nepomuk...
[11:36] <IIVQ1> yes
[11:36] <moetunes> usf: on the mounting bit?
[11:37] <TheAncientGoat> Also, why on earth do I have 250 procs running 0.0
[11:37] <usf> it cannot be mounted automatically like before
[11:38] <moetunes> usf: I've no idea - did you say if you have upgraded the os since it worked
[11:38] <usf> even in this os it worked
[11:39] <usf> it works in win7 but not in ubuntu 10.04
[11:39] <moetunes> usf: I mean apt-get update && apt-get upgrade not upgrade to new os version
[11:40] <usf> i didn't make any update
[11:41] <moetunes> usf: ok it is not from a software change then
[11:41] <usf> but it works in windows 7
[11:41] <moetunes> usf: can you mount it manually to make sure all is ok?
[11:42] <moetunes> with the kubuntu part of things
[11:42] <usf> i don't know how
[11:42] <usf> hhh
[11:43] <moetunes> usf: in konsole do   sudo fdisk -l   and look for the external drive
[11:43] <moetunes> you might have to pick it by file type or system size
[11:43] <IIVQ1> Hmmm
[11:44] <usf> i cannot identify it
[11:45] <IIVQ1> moetunes: I just made an xorg.conf.new, but when I tested it with Xorg -configure /root/xorg.conf.new I just got a black streen
[11:45] <IIVQ1> and no response to ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:45] <IIVQ1> ctrl-alt-F2 let my monitor flash but I didnt' go back to a console again
[11:45] <moetunes> IIVQ1: I only ever use xorg.conf in /etc/X11 - so i can't comment
[11:46] <IIVQ1> ok
[11:46] <moetunes> usf: there will be a mention of sda yes?
[11:46] <usf> sd1,sd2,.. yeah
[11:46] <usf> sda1..
[11:47] <moetunes> usf: is there a sdb?
[11:47] <usf> no
[11:48] <usf> only sda8
[11:48] <usf> SDA*
[11:49] <moetunes> usf: this is not something I normally do - mounting external drives - but i will have a ggogle if you are patient
[11:49] <usf> okey
[11:49] <moetunes> or a google even :]
[11:49] <usf> okey
[11:54] <usf> ls usb give me that:Bus 002 Device 007: ID 4971:ce15 SimpleTech :this my exter hard
[11:55] <moetunes> usf: we need to find where in the folder /dev it gets put - can you unplug the drive?
[11:56] <usf> okey
[11:57] <IIVQ1> moetunes: I've managed to install the new xorg.conf
[11:58] <moetunes> usf: when it is unplugged in konsole do   ls /dev   then plug it in again and do   ls /dev    again  and there hopefully will be a new name in the list
[11:58] <moetunes> IIVQ1: with the right resolution?
[11:58] <usf> ok
[11:58] <IIVQ1> moe: no not yet, just plain
[11:58] <usf> gonna try it
[11:58] <moetunes> kk
[11:58] <IIVQ1> so I need to find out how to do that first
[11:58] <IIVQ1> strange thing is that if I boot x I get some 1024x768-ish resolution
[11:59] <IIVQ1> and if I go into system settings -> display and change it to what I want, it briefly goes to that setting (.5 seconds) immediately jumps back again
[11:59] <moetunes> IIVQ1: and what are you hoping for?
[11:59] <IIVQ1> not giving the 15 second reset time
[11:59] <IIVQ1> moetunes: miracles? :-P
[11:59] <moetunes> heh
[12:00] <IIVQ1> I just think it's strange that if I go into sys settings -> display it won't store these settings somewhere
[12:00] <moetunes> in xorg.conf - section screen - subsection display i have the line
[12:00] <moetunes> Modes		"1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600"
[12:02] <moetunes> IIVQ1: I "think" it is a bug somewhere 'cause X redos the config on every boot without a xorg.conf
[12:02] <IIVQ1> moetunes: yes but I have a multiple display configuration
[12:02] <IIVQ1> so I need to figure out how to do that
[12:03] <IIVQ1> and it's be easy to tell xorg "please dump the modelines you're running on now, so I can put them into my xorg.conf"
[12:03] <IIVQ1> but linux shouldn't be too easy
[12:03] <IIVQ1> I was quite scared that setting up a printer was easier than in windows
[12:03] <IIVQ1> i.e. plug in device, done
[12:04] <moetunes> there's a very good debian wiki on all that X stuff
[12:04] <moetunes> http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12
[12:04] <usf> moetunes: there is no new name in the list
[12:05] <moetunes> usf: if it isn't listed in /dev then I don't know how we'll mount it sorry - have you had it work in windows since this happened in kubuntu?
[12:06] <usf>  if i switch now to windows it will work
[12:06] <moetunes> that's not what I asked..
[12:06] <usf> sorry
[12:06] <moetunes> k :]
[12:06] <moetunes>  have you had it work in windows since this happened in kubuntu?
[12:07] <moetunes> actually tried it in windows?
[12:07] <usf> yes
[12:07] <moetunes> k :]
[12:07] <usf> sorry for my english
[12:08] <moetunes> usf: all I can suggest is to try an update and upgrade to see if there is an improvement
[12:08] <usf> okey
[12:08] <moetunes> your english is fine usf :]
[12:08] <usf> all right
[12:09] <usf> thanks moetunes
[12:09] <usf> and astalavista
[12:09] <moetunes> pleasure usf :]
[12:22] <abelushi> pthc
[12:36] <IIVQ1> moetunes: Thank you very much
[12:36] <IIVQ1> I almost have it configured right
[12:36] <IIVQ1> that wiki article is REALLY helpful
[12:36] <moetunes> :]
[12:39] <IIVQ1> Only weird thing is that my main monitor is not at the resolution I set it to
[12:46] <IIVQ1> moetunes: I'll be going to the store first
[12:46] <IIVQ1> then try to solve this problem further
[12:46] <IIVQ1> thanks a lot allready
[12:57] <cuznt> the file on my cd informs me it is not executable.. is there a command for that?
[13:00] <IIVQ1> cuntz: what file? what cdrom?
[13:05] <cuznt> it is an install file i am trying to get in through wine
[13:06] <cuznt> setup.exe on a cd it does not have the adequate permissions to execute
[13:06] <tsimpson> have you tried just running it in wine?
[13:06] <tsimpson> like "wine 'D:\setup.exe'"
[13:07] <cuznt> nope
[13:07] <cuznt> i will though
[13:07] <cuznt> ty
[13:08] <ShorTie> i thought .exe's makes it a windows program
[13:09] <tsimpson> ShorTie: yes
[13:10] <cuznt> it does but wine allows you to install windowz programs in linux
[13:10] <cuznt> like raptor which i needed for intro to programming
[13:15] <manu__> jj
[13:19] <ubuntu> ciao
[13:33] <c3l> im getting an error when running curlftpfs, but it's stil working, just wondering if it may give me trouble. "fusermount: failed to open /etc/fuse.conf: Permission denied"
[14:05] <tux_> hi people, i am installing the nvidia-current driver from your repository the second time and wanted to know how to set a screen resolution if 1280x1024
[14:08] <stabares> did you try applications->system->NVidia X Server Settings?
[14:09] <tux_> ill check that in a sec have to reboot now
[14:15] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:16] <stabares> hi
[14:18] <sheytan> Does anybody own a Kubuntu lucid 64 bit qt-recordmydesktop package?
[14:18] <Walzmyn> what do you mean "own"
[14:31] <tux_> stabares: i have tried not the NVidia X Server Settings but i have only a resolution of 640x480 max
[14:32] <tux_> stabares: so how am i able to configure it ti 1280x1024
[14:32] <stabares> are you sure you are using the nvidia driver?
[14:32] <tux_> ??
[14:32] <tux_> yes i have installed the nvidia-current from the kubuntu repository
[14:32] <stabares> try this: "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep nvidia"
[14:33] <tux_> Setting mode "nvidia-auto-select"
[14:34] <tux_> is the last thing it logged
[14:34] <tux_> NVIDIA(0): No modes were requested; the default mode "nvidia-auto-select"
[14:34] <stabares> then it's loaded
[14:35] <stabares> try changing the resolution from nvidia server settings
[14:36] <tux_> the biggest resolution is 640x480 and that is it
[14:36] <tux_> there is nothing more i can choose
[14:41] <tux_> any suggestions?
[14:42] <thomasfuston> Aloha, i got a problem, with gtk stuff in kubuntu, everytime i change the color scheme for kde, my gtk applications getting black, no way to change it back
[14:43] <AltrortlA> where i can post an Image
[14:43] <AltrortlA> ??
[14:43] <BluesKaj> thomasfuston, set your gtk colours etc in system settings/gtk appearance
[14:44] <bazhang> !imagebin
[14:44] <bazhang> AltrortlA, ^^
[14:44] <AltrortlA> thanks a lot
[14:47] <tux_> anybody?
[14:48] <IIVQ1> moetunes: thanks!
[14:48] <IIVQ1> with your help I now have my multi-monitor booting in the resolution I want it
[14:49] <tux_> IIVQ1: u have nvidia?
[14:49] <IIVQ1> yes tux
[14:49] <IIVQ1> what is your problem?
[14:50] <IIVQ1> brb
[14:50] <tux_> IIVQ1: chould you paste the content of your xorg.conf file in www.pastebin.com and send me the link?
[14:55] <IIVQ1> yes
[14:55] <IIVQ1> moment
[14:57] <IIVQ> tux_,  http://pastebin.com/AX41KLc1
[14:58] <IIVQ> tux_, brb, doing the dishes, but just shoot
[15:05] <BluesKaj> IIVQ,   in the terminal , sudo nvidia-xconfig , this will write/rewrite your xorg.conf to accomodate the installed driver and detected monitor from the kernel source.
[15:07] <kwtm> Hi!  How do I add an icon ("widget"?) to the bottom panel so that I can easily start an application, such as firefox?
[15:08] <kwtm> I tried Panel Settings > Add a Widget, but it seems to limit me to predefined widgets and not actually launching an application
[15:08] <axiom> kwtm: Ha, I am trying to do the same thing, and failing
[15:09] <axiom> you used to be able to drag an icon from your menu to the "quick launch" area, but it doesn't seem to work anymore...
[15:09] <kwtm> axiom: It reminds me of this comedy movie where the spy has a super wristwatch with barometer, electric cables, infrascanners... when asked what time it is, he says, "I dunno.  My watch doesn't tell time."
[15:10] <axiom> yeah..
[15:10] <kwtm> axiom: I'm just waiting for someone to tell me that I should use some other fancy app-launching feature instead of clicking on the icon, or something.
[15:11] <axiom> Hey, this works: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973373
[15:11] <kwtm> I suspect there may be a "quick launch area" that you can create, and then you can drag icons there, but I don't know how to create it.
[15:11] <axiom> "Open the Kickoff menu and right click on the application you want, drop down the menu and click on add to panel"
[15:11] <kwtm> Awww... CHEEZ!  It says "it doesn't work if you have the menu set to Classic View".
[15:12] <axiom> oh
[15:12] <axiom> well, I don't
[15:12] <axiom> but maybe you can set it, and then set it back again?
[15:12] <kwtm> So for the minority of people who happen to set menu to Classic View, suddenly they have no idea how to do something and they think they must be crazy or something,.
[15:12] <kwtm> axiom: Of course.  But why don't they make it work for classic view????  :(
[15:12] <axiom> Gotta move on with the times man ;)
[15:13] <kwtm> It's, like "There's this GREAT feature!  Oh, if you HAPPEN to have 4 overlapping windows, then that feature goes away."  uhh..... why???
[15:13] <IIVQ> BluesKaj, why would I want that?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> hey IIVQ you asked about updating your xorg.conf file , well that's the way to do it
[15:14] <kwtm> THere's too many places to right-click on in KDE4.  It's non-intuitive.
[15:14] <IIVQ> ah no BluesKaj, I allready manually created this xorg file
[15:15] <IIVQ> indeed kwtm
[15:15] <kwtm> I finally figured out how to set panel height.  I had to figure out that I click on the cashew on the panel, then go back and click on the taskbar.  (I meant setting taskbar rows, not panel height)
[15:15] <kwtm> But if I do it in the wrong order, and right-click on the taskbar first, then a different menu appears, and I couldn't figure it out.
[15:16] <BluesKaj> IIVQ, if youn run nvidia , sudo nvidia-xorgconfig command will tune it up
[15:16] <IIVQ> BluesKaj, It works now
[15:16] <IIVQ> no need to fix it
[15:16] <IIVQ> fixing working stuff tends to break stuff
[15:16] <IIVQ> in my hands at least :-)
[15:17] <IIVQ> wow my CPU is hot today
[15:17] <IIVQ> 41.5 degrees
[15:17] <kwtm> Sometimes I want KDE developers to witness how ordinary people use their desktop and realize it doesn't matter how many fancy semi-translucency features there are if people don't know how to use the system.
[15:17] <kwtm> axiom: Anyway, thanks for the tip.
[15:17] <IIVQ> kwtm, You must agree with me that konqueror 3.5 was waaaaay more functional than dolphin is?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> IIVQ, I thought you were looking for a fix...sure seemed like it to me
[15:17] <tux_> BluesKaj: the problem is that i have no resolutions defined after running that command
[15:18] <IIVQ> BluesKaj, thx, no I WAS looking for a fix
[15:18] <IIVQ> but I fixed it now
[15:18] <IIVQ> hmm, that sounded unfriendly, not meant like that
[15:18] <BluesKaj> tux_, try to find a driver for your monitor , sometimes a very important app which is often overlooked
[15:18] <IIVQ> thanks for trying to help anyway
[15:19] <tux_> BluesKaj: what do u mean?
[15:19] <IIVQ> I'm going outside. The sun is shining. I shouldn't sit behind the computer :-)
[15:19] <BluesKaj> IIVQ, ok , np
[15:19] <kwtm> IIVQ: Amazingly, I do agree, even though I almost never use konqueror at all and had used Krusader.  But the KDE4 version of Krusader is still configured funny, and at least whenever I need a fallback I know I can always depend on Konqueror.  Not sure why Dolphin came into being.
[15:20] <kwtm> I think they made Dolphin just to take a break from names beginning with K.
[15:20] <tux_> BluesKaj: i ran earlier versions of kubuntu on this monitor without any driver required
[15:20] <BluesKaj> tux_, ok, suit yourself
[15:21] <kwtm> Has anyone figured out yet how to hide the panel on demand?  Like once in a while I need more room on my monitor, and make the panel slide off the screen temporarily?  Used to be easy in KDE3.
[15:21] <kwtm> Oh, and how to make the panel opaque instead of 80% transparent?  I need a brain-dead-easy setup for the family computer, and this KDE4 stuff is just overkill.
[15:22] <kwtm> I meant 20% transparent and 80% opaque.
[15:24] <axiom> kwtm: I don't know if you can hide the panel, but you can make most any app fullscreen by clicking the icon in the left of the title bar
[15:24] <Dyrcona> kwtm: have you tried right-clicking the in panel and choosing settings?
[15:24] <Dyrcona> kwtm: or rather, hitting the widget that is by default to the far-right of the panel?
[15:25]  * Dyrcona is not in front of his kubuntu machine atm.
[15:26] <axiom> kwtm: Yeah, you can make your panel autohide in the settings
[15:27] <axiom> I'm trying to get a multimedia key on my keyboard to launch firefox.  Where would I set that?  (Sytem Settings>Global Keyboard Shortcuts seems like the right place, but I don't see where you can add a new command (?))
[15:28] <kwtm> axiom: I don't want autohide, because any app can crowd out the panel.  I just want to slide it out on demand (when I really need it) because most of the time I need the panel more (I need to constantly see the clock and taskbar or I go nuts)
[15:28] <axiom> kwtm: what about fullscreen apps?
[15:29] <kwtm> Dyrcona: Not sure what you mean by the icon in the left of the title bar.  You mean the WIndows Operations menu?  Btw, I function far better with the Keramik window decorations so I changed it to that.  Is the icon still in the same place?
[15:29] <kwtm> axiom: Well, the one fullscreen app I tried (BZflag) crashes the system.  Don't even get me started on that.  I can't even switch to another terminal with Ctrl-Alt-F1 etc., which I could do before.
[15:30] <axiom> BZflag should be fullsceen anyway
[15:30] <kwtm> Oh, and some numbhead decided to get rid of Ctrl-Alt-Backspace as a way to reboot the X server, so if the thing crashes, I hit the power button.  (Yes, I restored the settings, but why isn't this on by default?  At least set it to a dfferent key, not turn it off altogether)
[15:30] <axiom> but you should be able to make any app fullscreen
[15:30] <Dyrcona> kwtm: Isn't there a widget all the way to the right of the panel (task bar)? (Sorry if i said left earlier, I always confuse right and left.)
[15:31] <kwtm> axiom: What I mean is, I think it's because BZflag is fullscreen taht it crashes the system.    I had had a bad experience filing bugs before but now the KDE4 bugs are accumulating thick and fast.
[15:33] <kwtm> I've building up a real collection of them.
[15:34] <kwtm> I think the main thing is that the developers are too caught up in the new features to see that people just want to continue using a nice, solid, dependable workspace, and only slowly add on more features.
[15:36] <Dyrcona> kwtm: i'm only trying KDE again after years of being away. I used to be on the KMail team back in the KDE 2.0 days. I had to quit because I ran out of free time in mid-2001.
[15:37] <Dyrcona> KDE 4.4 has a few rough edges.
[15:37] <kwtm> Dyrcona: Thank you for your work.  KMail has lots of nice features but the current version has some surprising deficiencies that make me think it's the overall decisionmaking rather than coding that needs to improve.
[15:39] <kwtm> Dyrcona: I know KDE4 has come a long way.  It's just ... you wonder if they are paying attention to what their priorities should be.  I had a bad experience where one developer said (a few years ago) "Last year survey says 54% of people use KDE3, but this year only 45% of people use KDE3, so developing for KDE3 is a waste of time...."
[15:39] <kwtm> Alllllrighty, and now my System Settings program has crashed. :P
[15:40] <Dyrcona> kwtm: that happened to me on Thursday. started it up again and it worked fine.
[15:41] <allan_> how do i find a grub editor now for ver. 10.4
[15:41] <Dyrcona> kwtm: yes, i'm surprised at some of the things that are "missing" in various KDE 4 apps. things that were there in the 2.0 versions.--Konqueror, for instance, is much less useful to me as a browser.
[15:41] <Dyrcona> so maybe, i should jump back in?
[15:42]  * Dyrcona wonders which Stephan he should email about getting repo access..... or is everything git these days.
[15:43] <allan_> dooes annnyone know where to get a grub editor for this????????
[15:43] <kwtm> Dyrcona: If you could act on behalf of the ordinary users and provide a calmer, more stable perspective than the exuberant "featuritis" perspective, that would probably be even more valuable than just coding.
[15:44] <kwtm> E.g. why the [bleep!] doesn't KMail-KDE4 have a "change font colour" button, and why aren't the text formatting buttons on by default?  (No other way to change font, e.g. bold, other than with buttons that you manually add to the toolbar)
[15:45] <kwtm> Dyrcona: Or: simple "hide panel" buttons.  I suspect the developers didn't use this much and figure other people didn't either.  Or someone didn't want to write the code for the sliding animation, but I don't care about animation, I just want the panel gone when *I* say  I want it gone. :P
[15:45]  * Dyrcona nods, and thinks we're getting off-topic. :)
[15:47] <prower> hello :> i've noticed that in 10.04 some applications don't seem to behave properly, i'll try my best to explain with an example :> with transmission, if you add a torrent, transmission is started and the torrent is added as normal...but if you click a link for another torrent, _two_ instances of transmission run at once rather than the torrent just being added
[15:58] <saibot521> guten abend
[15:59] <saibot521> gibts hier vielleicht ein paar helle leuchten die mir mit meinem sound-problem helfen wollen?
[15:59] <saibot521> sound video und mp3 gehen, aber ich hab bei flash-videos keinen sound
[16:03] <iconmefisto> !de
[16:03] <saibot521> axo
[16:04] <saibot521> danke
[16:06] <wizkoder> sorry lost my connection. how can I watch html5 videos with firefox? is there a kubuntu package that can do that?
[16:09] <wizkoder> I get akonadi errors since I upgraded to the ppa version. Is there a solution for this?
[16:10] <wizkoder> No resource agents found. Is the message
[16:11] <iconmefisto> wizkoder: don't know about the akonadi errors, but afaik html5 won't work in firefox. might work with google chrome (not chromium browser either)
[16:13] <adminstrator> hi
[16:13] <adminstrator> ]
[16:13] <wizkoder> iconmefisto: Okay. Just downloading chrome. But I heard its always calling home. I am kind of paranoid about this browser...
[16:14] <iconmefisto> wizkoder: I believe it's possible to disable that in chrome's options. but yeah, it makes me paranoid too
[16:14] <Ampersand> the block google
[16:14] <Ampersand> then
[16:14] <Ampersand> its not hard to block google
[16:14] <wizkoder> Ampersand: How do I do that?
[16:15] <iconmefisto> wizkoder: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Youtube+HTML5+does+not+work+in+Firefox#Why_doesn_t_Youtube_HTML5_support_Firefox_
[16:15] <stabares> add google.com to your hosts file
[16:15] <Ampersand> wizkoder: well disable it in chrome, but use a packet sniffer and iptables to block it
[16:15] <Ampersand> if you think its still sending mountain view packets
[16:24] <millun> hi
[16:25] <millun>  i have a skype related problem. i get only to choose from "pulseaudio" options in sounds settings but that doesn't work for MIC
[16:28] <wizkoder> millun: Your mic is not working?
[16:37] <xelister> hi, what to install on regular ubuntu lucid to fully use KDE?  because now it seems I do not have some parts of kde.. kde DE starts (from gdm) but I have empty (black) desktop, and no panels (except for alt+f2 application steart) and windows are drawn without decoration
[16:38]  * Ampersand has a large package
[16:40] <hagabaka> xelister: check if you have kde-window-manager installed, but maybe kwin is just not started
[16:43] <stabares> you should install kubuntu-desktop
[16:46] <wizkoder> xelister: I did exactely that a few days ago but I have to say it does not really work. Better to install kubuntu and immediately upgrade tp the ppa version
[16:49] <xelister> wizkoder: I found solution,   install kde base etc
[16:49] <xelister> wizkoder:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:50] <xelister> wizkoder:  tell me if it helped.  bbl
[16:50] <wizkoder> xelister: My problem was than a lot of small details do not really work. I guess there are different demons doing the jobs on this 2 systems
[16:51] <wizkoder> xelister: Apart from that you have 2 programs for every problem. And to delete every program by hand takes longer than installing anew
[17:02] <giovanni> ciao
[17:39] <amichair> what's soprano-virtuoso? why is it taking up 1.3G of disk space?
[17:40] <Tm_T> amichair: it's your nepomuk data
[17:40] <amichair> Tm_T: which is?
[17:41] <Tm_T> amichair: virtuoso is the actual database service to store the metadata for nepomuk
[17:41] <amichair> Tm_T: what's nepomuk?
[17:41] <Tm_T> amichair: the service that manages your file/whatever metadata, ratings and alike
[17:43] <amichair> Tm_T: assuming I never explicitly used any such service, what's all that data? is it auto-generated indices and such, or actual data?
[17:44] <amichair> I just noticed my daily backup just became a bit huger than usual, and found this extra 1.3G
[17:48] <Walzmyn> amichair: best I can tell, that's exactly what nepomuk is - a big use of resources and disk space
[17:48] <amichair> hehe
[17:52] <DarthFrog> And a flaming nuisance in usage.  All too frequently, I wind up on a web site instead of running a program cuz the blasted thing got in my way.
[17:53] <DarthFrog> Press Alt-F2 and type "gimp".    I just disagree on their priority.
[17:58] <Walzmyn> DarthFrog: I always found them a nusinace since I don't use konq. When I set FF as the default browser all the bookmarks just got in the way
[18:05] <maxardis> siemanko
[18:05] <oxymoron> Can someone help me with this problem, it says partition is outside the harddrive http://imagebin.ca/view/ssYheK8i.html - But Linux mount it without problems when booting? :S
[18:07] <oxymoron> Btw, KPartitionManager cannot label FAT32 driver, but it should.
[18:12] <asobi> any reason why sound is suddenly very soft in everything including amarok, kmplayer, firefox except kaffeine?
[18:40] <_strog> hello people, i have just installed kubuntu and wanted to change the resolution of my xorg.conf file and noticed that it is not there
[18:40] <_strog> any idea y?
[18:41] <vlt> _strog: I think Ubuntu doesn't use xorg.conf anymore by default. But you can create your own.
[18:41] <_strog> vlt: ok, and where do i have to configure my resolution to 1280x1024?
[18:42] <shadeslayer> _strog: apart from what vlt said,the resolution is genrally set to auto
[18:42] <vlt> _strog: You mean else than in xorg.conf?
[18:42] <_strog> shadeslayer: well, my case is that it is at 1024x something
[18:43] <_strog> and i want to get to 1280x1024
[18:43] <Frederick> folsk I logged via ssh in my ubutu with xsupport, how can I do so I can see the desktop?
[18:43] <shadeslayer> _strog: ah ok :)
[18:43] <shadeslayer> !res | _strog
[18:45] <_strog> and yes it is set to auto and the max resolution that kubuntu gets me is 1024x768 where can i add resolutions?
[18:51] <vinnie_> i just put the new kubuntu cd in and rebooted and when i go to install and choose partitions manually it has my two hard drives backwards. the one that should be sda is sdb. and the one that should be sdb is sda????
[19:05] <D0C_> anyone have sound issues with 10.04?
[19:13] <vbgunz> does anybody know whats happening with BOLD fonts in the terminal? they end up destroying the legibility of the line. whats up with that? is there a solution for fixing it?
[19:15] <vbgunz> hmm. it doesn't happen with all the fonts. but it does certainly happen with "nu sans mono demo"
[19:15] <vbgunz> it also happens with anonymous
[19:17] <iconmefisto> shadeslayer: hi. if you remember, yesterday I was asking about gparted not creating extended/logical partitions. GPT (GUID partition table) disks don't use extended/logical since GPT doesn't have the 4 primary partition limitation that normal MBR imposes. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-gpt/index.html
[19:18] <iconmefisto> shadeslayer: in case you were curious
[19:18] <shadeslayer> iconmefisto: ah thanks :)
[19:18] <martijn-2> anyone can help me with getting http://soundcloud.com to work with sound under kubuntu?
[19:19] <shadeslayer> iconmefisto: i didnt know it was a 2TB drive :P
[19:19] <Sonsee> does kde4 NOT support socks5 !!! ???
[19:20] <shadeslayer> iconmefisto: eagles0513875 recently had a problem with the normal kernel ( which doesn not support GPT ) and could not install Ubuntu on his 2TB HD... im  guessing you had the same problem with partitioning :P
[19:22] <iconmefisto> shadeslayer: well lucid 64bit installer partitioned the disk without a problem. after install, I wanted to create more partitions. I should have just tried creating more than 4 primaries
[19:23] <shadeslayer> hmm...
[19:23] <eagles0513875> shadeslayer: technically the issue wasnt the kernel as all
[19:23] <eagles0513875> his issue is different
[19:24] <eagles0513875> iconmefisto: you should keep the 4th primary partition and use that as a logical partition
[19:24] <eagles0513875> there is a limit of primary partitions on a disk to 4 and i believe up to 16 logical partitions
[19:24] <iconmefisto> eagles0513875: GPT allows up to 128 primary partitions!!
[19:25] <eagles0513875> ahh iconmefisto didnt know that but for me i was having issues getting kubuntu installed to a 2tb hdd
[19:25] <eagles0513875> there has to be something missing in the kernel
[19:25] <eagles0513875> and maybe tomorrow or monday ill pull both the server source code and take a look at the differences
[19:26] <iconmefisto> eagles0513875: maybe my disk already had a GPT partition table, and yours didn't? gparted can create GPT partition tables
[19:27] <eagles0513875> iconmefisto: i still had issues with kubuntu live cd net install and alternat cd
[19:27] <eagles0513875> there had to have been something missing in the kernel that ubuntu server kernel has
[19:27] <eagles0513875> cuz i managed using ubuntu server to install then installed the kubuntu-desktop meta package
[19:27] <eagles0513875> anyway im out for now
[19:30] <oxymoron> Help me, Grub2 cannot bootload Windows 7
[19:31] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: it does bootload 7...
[19:31] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: whats the error??
[19:32] <ikonia> eagles0513875: I thought it was the partition type that was the limiting factor for the 2TB disk ?
[19:32] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Theres no error at all, I highlight Windows 7, select it and then I only got "GRUB "and a blinking "_" on the screen
[19:32] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: ok.. and did it boot earlier?
[19:33] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Yes, I have been working forever before. I thinks its the latest .... -6 version that messed up.
[19:33] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Its so freaking ironic because I should boot into Windows to fix another problem and now I cannot boot Windows :D
[19:34] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: hehe.. well try : sudo update-grub : and reboot...
[19:34] <shadeslayer> oh wait
[19:34] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Already did, dont work
[19:34] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: sudo os-prober as well
[19:34] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: It finds WIndows 7 in grub.cfg.
[19:35] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: What does os-prober do?
[19:35] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: it probes for other OS's
[19:35] <shadeslayer> and then adds them to grub.cfg.. then re run update-grub
[19:36] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: But grub.cfg find it without os-prober before.
[19:36] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Its something else
[19:36] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: thats because the entries were added there by os-prober :P
[19:36] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Its like grub freeze and dont kick into the Windows bootloader proerly.
[19:37] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Yes, but the entries were there before running os-prober
[19:37] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: hmm...
[19:37] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: http://paste.ubuntu.com/437961/  << thats my grub.cfg ( the win 7 part )
[19:37] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: well you can reinstall grub...
[19:38] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: sudo apt-get --reinstall install grub-common
[19:38] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Yeah good idea :)
[19:40] <iconmefisto> if win7 is on sda1, shouldn't it be: set root='(hd0,0)'   ?
[19:41] <oxymoron> I think I found out the problem, WIndows and THIS partition is installed on sdc and another one on sda and grub was only installed on sda xD So now I isntalled on both sdc and sda
[19:41] <shadeslayer> iconmefisto: dunno.. thats the way its been set... i wont mess with it :P
[19:41] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: oh...
[19:42] <oxymoron> I try it again, hopefully I wont be back in awhile. Thanks shadeslayer for your help, maybe you can help me later on with another problem I have with NTFS drive ...
[19:42] <shadeslayer> heh.. ill be gone till then..
[19:42] <shadeslayer> iconmefisto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/437964/
[19:42] <shadeslayer> my entire grub.cfg
[19:45] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Wtf, grub2 package wasnt installed, that could be why ...
[19:47] <eagles0513875> ikonia: ubuntu kernel are saying that all gpt is compiled into the generic kernel but i have a feeling something is still awry with gpt in the generic kernel
[19:48] <eagles0513875> ikonia: if your still around later ill discuss this futher with you there are actually some updates posted by some people from kernel
[19:49] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Hmm still doesnt work after reinstllation and everything?! :S
[19:50] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: weird... maybe #grub can help? but be prepared to wait :(
[19:50] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: I dont care about Windows but I need it to run chkdsk or what they call it.
[19:50] <shadeslayer> ah..
[19:50] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: maybe this  : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1470052
[19:51] <iconmefisto> oxymoron: could it be the ntfs partition is in such bad shape that win7 won't boot, and it's not grub's fault at all?
[19:51] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: aha! a known issue here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1469314&highlight=boot
[19:51] <ikonia> eagles0513875: I've not read the bug in a while, I'll look into it
[19:52] <eagles0513875> ikonia: ok if your still around later i can work with you on getting to the cause of it
[19:52] <oxymoron> iconmefisto: Uhm I am not sure, I dont think so because I use the partition inside Kubuntu now when I write.
[19:52] <eagles0513875> the bug was only updated yesterday ikonia
[19:54] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Yeah same issue, how to solve then or how to run chkdsk without windows?
[19:54] <eagles0513875> oxymoron: windows install dvd
[19:55] <nerdy_kid> how do i get root gtk apps to use qtcurve like my apps?  i had this fixed once but i forgot how i did it
[19:55] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: you cant run chkdsk from linux,and the boot problem has a solution in that thread
[19:55] <shadeslayer> nerdy_kid: set that in systemsettings , starting system settings as root :P
[19:55] <shadeslayer> anyways ive gtg :)
[19:55] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: The "solution" doesnt work for me ... And how to run chkdsk in Linux then?
[19:55] <eagles0513875> ill bbl guys
[19:55] <oxymoron> eagles0513875: I am not sure I have one xD
[19:55] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: you cant...
[19:56] <shadeslayer> oxymoron: lol
[19:56] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: Oh I misread, I thought you typed you can and not you cant :D
[19:56] <nerdy_kid> shadeslayer doesnt work
[19:56] <oxymoron> shadeslayer: You have ntfsfix but it doesnt fix my roblem.
[19:58] <nerdy_kid> shadeslayer eh fixed it :)
[19:58] <nerdy_kid> shadeslayer sudo cp .gtkrc-2.0-kde /root/.gtkrc-2.0 :D
[20:00] <vinnie_> i just put the new kubuntu cd in and rebooted and when i go to install and choose partitions manually it has my two hard drives backwards. the one that should be sda is sdb. and the one that should be sdb is sda????
[20:01] <vinnie_> anyone else have this issue?
[20:04] <iconmefisto> oxymoron: you might be able to find a windows boot disk iso so you can run chkdsk
[20:04] <vinnie_> i would go ahead and install it but i have another distro on it and dont want to hose my system
[20:05] <oxymoron> iconmefisto: Yes, well I have Hirens Boot CD but prefer doing this in Linux environment.
[20:06] <oxymoron> iconmefisto: Gah all for a little thing about parted library cannot detect one NTFS driver partiion table ...
[20:07] <vinnie_> anyone?
[20:11] <iconmefisto> vinnie_: what's the other distro? do you know if it uses UUID to identify the disks?
[20:20] <chandrariri> halo
[20:21] <chandrariri> what is gOS/
[20:31] <phoenix_> is there any dvd burning program that i could use other than k3b in kubuntu
[20:35] <chandrariri> inter win
[20:35] <oxymoron> How to fix k3b get correct rights to umount dvd if needed?
[20:36] <oxymoron> permissions
[20:53] <chandrariri> where is  i can chat bout champions league final
[20:54] <chandrariri> go inter
[20:54] <Tm_T> #defocus perhaps
[20:55] <wotsolatsod731> How do I add more rooms to the Server list?
[20:56] <chandrariri> Why i can send message in defocus chanel
[20:56] <chandrariri> why i cant
[20:57] <Tm_T> ask in #freenode (:
[20:57] <chandrariri> thx
[20:58] <wotsolatsod731> Or how do I find more servers rooms to connect to?
[21:21] <Benkinooby> hi all. i want to compile wmcalendar for my fluxbox dock. i allready resolved all kinds of "missing file/package" problems, but now i am stuck with this errormessage http://pastebin.com/Xtm7yjCN is there anything i can do, or are all this errors originationg from the sourcecode?
[21:24] <cannonfodder> you guys...im installing ubuntu on an empty hard drive...wat mount point should i select?
[21:24] <cannonfodder>  /
[21:24] <cannonfodder> Nina: /boot
[21:24] <cannonfodder> Nina: /home
[21:24] <cannonfodder> Nina: /tmp
[21:24] <cannonfodder> Nina: /usr
[21:24] <FloodBotK3> cannonfodder: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:33] <chandrariri> anyoone?
[21:35] <Benkinooby> hi all. i want to compile wmcalendar for my fluxbox dock. i allready resolved all kinds of "missing file/package" problems, but now i am stuck with this errormessage http://pastebin.com/Xtm7yjCN is there anything i can do, or are all this errors originationg from the sourcecode?
[21:52] <slow-motion> hi
[22:00] <momo> Oh boy... 10.04 isn't going to win any prizes... I just downgraded to 8.04 again
[22:08] <xelister> momo: for me 10.04 sucked totally
[22:09] <xelister> momo: but, after 2-3 days, I was able to stablize it. actually most of problems where due to unlucky upgrade
[22:11] <momo> xelister: glad to hear. i did several fresh installations and well ... as you say it sucked
[22:13] <momo> although the hardware was not really new it was worse than with 8.04 (which happens to run totally perfect)
[22:19] <vbgunz> anybody here got an external esata hdd? Are you having problems mounting it? I might have a solution but I need your help!
[22:25] <vbgunz> what is the kubuntu dev channel?
[22:26] <cuznt> !dev
[22:27] <cuznt> good bot
[22:27] <cuznt> !botsnack
[22:31] <quesada> in kubuntu I have both .kde and .kde4 dot files
[22:32] <quesada> but I copied my home from a nonubuntu box
[22:32] <quesada> which one is the .kde that ubuntu uses?
[22:40] <jedix> hey, is there a way besides xwinwrap to set a video as the background image?
[22:40] <jedix> a less hacky way that would result in a better looking background?
[22:43] <oxymoron> Can someone help me once and for all solving this freaking problem: http://pastebin.com/bdY7u8iD (chkdsk didnt help)
[22:44] <jedix> oxymoron: what is on the drive?
[22:44] <jedix> oxymoron: filesystem/data?
[22:45] <oxymoron> jedix: http://pastebin.com/M1dj9vrh
[22:45] <oxymoron> jedix: Its NTFS
[22:45] <jedix> oxymoron: oh.. crappy
[22:45] <oxymoron> jedix: That sdb1 one
[22:45] <jedix> oxymoron: the issue is that your partition table is screwed up
[22:45] <oxymoron> jedix: Linux can mount it but It always says the partition is out of hdd :D
[22:46] <oxymoron> jedix: What about the partition table, I dont understand?
[22:46] <jedix> oxymoron: do you want to keep the data on the drive?
[22:46] <oxymoron> jedix: Uhm yes
[22:46] <jedix> hehe, that makes it a little more complicated to fix ;)
[22:47] <oxymoron> jedix: How to fix then?
[22:48] <oxymoron> jedix: I was going through hell to make chkdsk executing to fix problems but still doesnt work? :S
[22:48] <jedix> you see how it ends on 60802?
[22:48] <oxymoron> jedix: Yes?
[22:49] <jedix> that's cylinders
[22:49] <jedix> above it lists the cylinders as 60801
[22:49] <oxymoron> jedix: Oh crap, one cylinder to much? :P
[22:49] <jedix> so.. the partition table (the thing you're reading with fdisk) is telling the computer there's data beyond the end of the drive
[22:49] <oxymoron> Out of bounds, awesome xD
[22:49] <jedix> oxymoron: yep :)
[22:50] <oxymoron> jedix: How does linux made to mount it anyway? :S
[22:50] <jedix> oxymoron: as long as it isn't told to read that last cylinder.. it will be okay
[22:51] <jedix> but there is potential for disaster.
[22:52] <jedix> oxymoron: what created that partition?
[22:52] <oxymoron> jedix: That sounds ... like my usual unlyckyness xD
[22:52] <oxymoron> jedix: I dont remember I think Partitionmanager did
[22:53] <oxymoron> jedix: Isnt it possible to just change that cylinder then? :S
[22:54] <jedix> oxymoron: yes.. but I'm not entirely sure that will keep the ntfs happy.. I don't know ntfs enough to tell you if you'll lose data
[22:54] <oxymoron> jedix: Its not damn important data, but I wont be happy losing all my software, games and movies and All prison break and macgyver seasonsxD
[22:55] <oxymoron> jedix: Is it possible to force it into its rightful place someway?
[22:55] <oxymoron> jedix: In partition tables when you move partitions you change cylinders.
[22:56] <jedix> oxymoron: is this the OS partition?
[22:56] <oxymoron> jedix: I guess I could go back to Windows and running some partition application trying to fix it? :P
[22:56] <oxymoron> jedix: No its not IS partition, if it was I had removed it directly.
[22:56] <jedix> oxymoron: it probably thinks it's fine
[22:56] <jedix> hrm
[22:56] <oxymoron> jedix: I am not sure what caused this baceause it worked flawless before.
[22:57] <jedix> I don't know what's your best bet here
[22:57] <oxymoron> jedix: Earlier I changed my entire partition structure but it worked then perfect if I remember correct.
[22:57] <oxymoron> Partition Magic in Windows maybe?
[22:58] <jedix> I'd just grab the data off it and reformat and put the data back
[22:58] <jedix> do you have that much room?
[22:58] <oxymoron> jedix: Well I would if I could, but I dont have 500 GB free ...
[22:58] <jedix> continuous or total?
[22:59] <jedix> you could move the tv shows anywhere.. but I don't know about the games, etc
[23:00] <oxymoron> jedix: Uhm total I dont know, but I aint happy copy 500 GB randomly to different drives, it will take light years to finish.
[23:00] <jedix> oxymoron: I'm syncing 2.1TB over gigE right now
[23:00] <jedix> that'll take light years
[23:00] <jedix> (also, light years is distance, not time)
[23:01] <jedix> ;)
[23:01] <jedix> oxymoron: try fdisk /dev/sda
[23:01] <oxymoron> jedix: Last time fixing partition tables I copied files, it took one fucking day to finish.
[23:01] <jedix> err
[23:01] <jedix> oxymoron: try fdisk /dev/sdb
[23:01] <jedix> go to expert mode (x)
[23:01] <jedix> and then verify (v)
[23:01] <jedix> see what it does
[23:02] <oxymoron> jedix: Total allocated sectors 976782083 greater than the maximum 976773168
[23:02] <jedix> haha
[23:02] <jedix> wonderfuk
[23:03] <oxymoron> Which mean I am screwed? xD
[23:03] <_strog> hi people, i have serious problems in configuring xorg.conf file
[23:03] <_strog> please can someone help me here?
[23:04] <Ampersand> aw
[23:04] <Ampersand> well that was a nice cut an past
[23:04] <Ampersand> e
[23:04] <Ampersand> _strog:  we are all out of canned someones
[23:04] <_strog> this is not funny\
[23:04] <_strog> what do you mean/
[23:04] <_strog> ?
[23:05] <oxymoron> jedix: ?
[23:05] <jedix> oxymoron: I'm looking
[23:05] <jedix> _strog: details to the problem help people find answers
[23:05] <oxymoron> jedix: Alright :) Hopefully I can fix it someway :P
[23:06] <oxymoron> _strog: In other words, whats the problem with xorg.conf file?
[23:07] <_strog> jedix: I have an nvidia graphics card, where i have installed the nvidia-current driver and I cant get the resolution to 1280x1024
[23:07] <jedix> oxymoron: maybe gparted can resize your partition smaller?
[23:07] <jedix> oxymoron: or partition magic or something
[23:07] <_strog> neither the system nor nvidia would give me the resolution to set
[23:07] <jedix> oxymoron: that'd fix it
[23:07] <oxymoron> jedix: Yeah I check all of them, KpartitionManager cant thats for sure
[23:08] <_strog> so who would help?
[23:08] <oxymoron> jedix: Alright gaprted thinks its unallocated space ... and Kpartitionmanager cannot find anything at all, just says partitions is out of bounds ...
[23:08] <jedix> _strog: pastebin the results of "dpkg -l|grep nvidia -i"
[23:08] <_strog> i sec
[23:09] <jedix> oxymoron: that's not cool..
[23:09] <Ampersand> the second by apple
[23:09] <Ampersand> _strog: video card
[23:09] <Ampersand> ?
[23:09] <jedix> oxymoron: try the windows crap?
[23:10] <oxymoron> jedix: Yeah I guess ... trying the Hirens Boot CD again with several hundreds of useful software on one disk, maybe something in there can fix it ...
[23:10] <Ampersand> try a lower refresh
[23:10] <oxymoron> jedix: Brb then, hopefully when fixed it :P Worst case scenario is only to download everything again xD
[23:12] <_strog> www.pastebin.com/1HCJLpf
[23:12] <_strog> www.pastebin.com/lHCJLpf
[23:12] <_strog> wft!?
[23:12] <jedix> haha
[23:13] <jedix> I see no problems :)
[23:13] <Ampersand> what fuck the?
[23:14] <tux_> ok guys here is the pastebin link
[23:14] <tux_> http://pastebin.com/1H0CJLqf
[23:14] <jedix> yeah
[23:14] <jedix> I see an issue..
[23:14] <jedix> actually, no
[23:14] <jedix> but "apt-get remove nvidia-173-modaliases"
[23:15] <tux_> jedix: i enter that?
[23:15] <jedix> yes
[23:15] <tux_> done
[23:15] <jedix> it won't fix this issue, but no need to have an outdated package there.
[23:15] <tux_> jedix: what next?
[23:15] <jedix> run nvidia-settings
[23:16] <jedix> is it happy?
[23:16] <tux_> ERROR: The control display is undefined; please run `nvidia-settings --help`
[23:16] <tux_>        for usage information.
[23:16] <jedix> tux_: you have to be in X..
[23:16] <tux_> jedix: and how do i do that?
[23:17] <jedix> oh, sorry
[23:17] <jedix> are you logged in at a terminal?
[23:17] <tux_> well the gui ist running
[23:18] <tux_> and i have a konsole open
[23:18] <jedix> okay
[23:18] <ShorTie> nvidia-setting is used within the gui
[23:18] <jedix> konsole is too though
[23:18] <jedix> I'm confused at where he is
[23:18] <tux_> jedix: you can chat with strog
[23:18] <tux_> no problem
[23:18] <tux_> and ill stop kdm
[23:19] <jedix> no, you should be in the gui
[23:19] <jedix> log into kdm
[23:19] <tux_> ok ok
[23:19] <tux_> kdm is running
[23:19] <jedix> then run nvidia-settings
[23:20] <tux_> nvidia-xconfig you mean?
[23:20] <jedix> no
[23:20] <martijn81-2> is there somthing else for kde4 than audiocd:/
[23:20] <tux_> well nvidia-settings cant run
[23:20] <tux_> gives me errors
[23:21] <jedix> tux_: that means you're not using the nvidia driver
[23:21] <tux_> jedix: ok and how do i do that?
[23:22] <jedix> tux_: it should have happened by itself.. is dkms installed? run "apt-get install dkms"
[23:22] <stephane> hello
[23:22] <stephane> i need help
[23:22] <jedix> that one as root.. or `sudo apt-get install dkms`
[23:22] <tux_> jedix: dkms is installed
[23:22] <jedix> tux_: do you have an xorg.conf file?
[23:23] <jedix> it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:23] <tux_> jedix:now yes
[23:23] <maze_> hey
[23:23] <maze_> '
[23:23] <jedix> tux_: is there a section in there that's called Device, which uses the Driver "nvidia" ?
[23:23] <stephane> how can help me
[23:23] <maze_> whats thos chat room about
[23:24] <jedix> tux_: wait a sec.. after installing the driver, did you reboot?
[23:25] <tux_> jedix: yes Driver says "nvidia"
[23:25] <tux_> jedix: i rebooted couple times
[23:25] <tux_> jedix: when kubuntu ist newly installed, there was no xorg.conf
[23:25] <jedix> tux_: okay, then just restart kdm from the console now that you have an xorg file
[23:25] <oxymoron> jedix: Ah success :P
[23:25] <jedix> oxymoron: :)
[23:26] <tux_> jedix: i wouldn't be that shure
[23:26] <tux_> brb
[23:26] <oxymoron> jedix: I just must say HATE HATE HATE NTFS, ISO-9958-1 and Windows! :D
[23:27] <jedix> oxymoron: yeah, me too
[23:27] <jedix> oxymoron: although, that's probably why we are here.
[23:28] <oxymoron> jedix: I got pissed off a lot of time in Linux because of that because Linux follow protocols and Microsoft and Windows doesnt.
[23:28] <oxymoron> jedix: Sometimes I get angry on developers for GNU/Linux and distros ... because of that :P
[23:29]  * Ampersand tries to piss off oxymoron but fails
[23:29] <oxymoron> jedix: If I didnt study or needed MS Office anytime, 3d render apps and Adobe CS 5 so ...
[23:29] <tux_> jedix: im back :(
[23:29] <jedix> tux_: that frown seems to indicate bad things.
[23:30] <jedix> tux_: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for issues (lines that start with WW or EE)
[23:30] <tux_> jedix: yes, i still have 640x480 resolution and not higher
[23:30] <oxymoron> jedix: Btw, in partitionmanager it says sdb1, sdc3 and sdd1 doesnt start on a cylinder boundary/border? :S
[23:30] <stephane> how can i find the version of ubuntu
[23:30] <Barridus> the entry in crontab -l "25      18      *       *       *       /home/ryan/rsyncall.sh" does not fire (the script is executable).  anyone have any ideas?
[23:31] <tux_> jedix: no  there are no WW or EE tags
[23:32] <jedix> stephane: cat /etc/lsb-release
[23:32] <jedix> oxymoron: that's a warning
[23:32] <jedix> oxymoron: the software that made them is an idiot.
[23:32] <Ampersand> haxe!
[23:33] <tux_> jedix: but take a look at this section of the xorg.conf file
[23:33] <tux_> http://pastebin.com/aNdbNv6U
[23:33] <oxymoron> jedix: Yes, but I hate warnings? :D I hate notices when I programming as well even if theyre not bad errors
[23:33] <tux_> there is no resolution
[23:33] <jedix> tux_: no there is not.
[23:33] <jedix> tux_: what monitor do you have?
[23:34] <tux_> i have a philips 190v
[23:34] <tux_> i used elder versions of kubuntu with this screen at a resolution of 1280x1024 without a problem
[23:35] <jedix> tux_: add this to your Monitor section..
[23:35] <jedix> 	HorizSync    30.0 - 110.0
[23:35] <stephane> i have a problem whit my update of v10.04 when the pc load the screen is black and dont show nothing
[23:35] <jedix> 	VertRefresh  50.0 - 150.0
[23:35] <oxymoron> jedix: Hmm now I resize it again and pressed cancel in the process ... hehe :$
[23:35] <jedix> erm.
[23:35] <slow-motion> n8
[23:35] <jedix> HorizSync    30.0 - 110.0
[23:35] <jedix> VertRefresh  50.0 - 150.0
[23:35] <jedix> those two.
[23:35] <FloodBotK3> jedix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:35] <tux_> jedix: mine is at HorizSync       28.0 - 33.0
[23:35] <jedix> tux_: that's your problem.
[23:36] <oxymoron> jedix: DO you know what happens when you press cancel in the commit process in Kpartitionmanager?
[23:36] <jedix> oxymoron: no idea.
[23:36] <oxymoron> jedix: Right now is the status "wait for the process to finish"
[23:36] <jedix> tux_: if you have the manual, it should tell you the right numbers.
[23:36] <oxymoron> jedix: I did it because it moved the partition to the right and then resize instead of ONLY resize xD
[23:36] <jedix> tux_: those are numbers I found online
[23:37] <oxymoron> jedix: Just resize take seconds, moving the data sideways does not xD
[23:37] <tux_> ah ok
[23:37] <tux_> ill restart kdm then
[23:37] <jedix> tux_: I found anohter one:  "Philips 190V" HorizSync 30.0 - 83.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0
[23:37] <jedix> wait
[23:37] <jedix> let's doublecheck the settings.
[23:37] <tux_> ok
[23:39] <oxymoron> jedix: Btw one tip for Kubuntu, when press ctrl+alt+delete make it possible do anywhere and then make it possible to restart xserver and system activities from that popup window and not only logging out and restart computer.
[23:39] <jedix> tux_: it would be safer to try and comment those lines out and see if it works.. it should fall back to autodetect
[23:39] <tux_> comment all of them out?
[23:39] <jedix> oxymoron: I'm not a kubuntu dev, but that's a pretty neat idea.
[23:39] <jedix> tux_: the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines, yes.
[23:40] <stephane> please i need help
[23:40] <jedix> stephane: sorry, I have to go soon.
[23:40] <tux_> jedix: so i comment both horizontal and vertical out?
[23:40] <jedix> tux_: yeah
[23:40] <tux_> kk
[23:40] <vinnie_> jedix: when i try to install kubuntu it detects my two hard drives backwards. is that going to affect my other distros if i go ahead and install?
[23:40] <oxymoron> jedix: I think that would save people a lot of time ... before I hade to just force boot computer if something frooze. ctrl+alt+del should have highest priority and freeze everything else if it have to.
[23:41] <jedix> vinnie_: it shouldn't
[23:41] <tux_> jedix: brb, wish me luck
[23:42] <vinnie_> jedix: why does kubuntu do that?
[23:42] <jedix> vinnie_: is your other distro really old?
[23:42] <vinnie_> jedix: no.. its mint 8 kde ce
[23:43] <vinnie_> jedix: its based on 9.10
[23:43] <vinnie_> jedix: does kubuntu use uuid in fstab?
[23:43] <jedix> vinnie_: it can (and does by default)
[23:44] <tux_> jedix: ok :) now i just have to set the resolution to 1280x1024
[23:44] <jedix> vinnie_: I know the order was changed in some devices based on the kernel version a while back
[23:44] <vinnie_> hmmm?
[23:44] <vinnie_> ic
[23:44] <vinnie_> well im gonna go give it a try.. ty
[23:44] <jedix> I think it had to do with pci id's or something, not sure.. but that was ages ago
[23:44] <oxymoron> jedix: Damn it must go back and restore again in Windows :D I fucked up partition and make data raw and not formatted partition NTFS ...
[23:45] <jedix> oxymoron: good luck
[23:45] <oxymoron> jedix: Seems like someone has to fix a smart algoritm for partition tables as this piece of shit sucks, NEVER ever works and its not comfortable and efficient at all.
[23:45] <oxymoron> jedix: Thanks
[23:46] <oxymoron> btw I have rebooted like 50 times now today, kind of tired see the freaking boot process :D
[23:46] <jedix> haha
[23:46] <tux_> jedix: i just need to get the resolution to 1280x1024
[23:46] <stephane> i need help: i update for ubuntu 10.04 and i reboot my screen is black noting appen... what to do
[23:46] <jedix> tux_: system settings > display
[23:46] <oxymoron> jedix: Just to remove PATA controller thing would be a relief and fast up the boot a little ...
[23:46] <tux_> jedix: jep i did that
[23:47] <jedix> tux_: and?
[23:47] <tux_> stephane: press ctrl+alt+f1 do u get a commandline
[23:47] <oxymoron> jedix: I am going to buy a SATA DVD/Blueray burner just because of that ... no not only because of that but its one important factor
[23:47] <stephane> no
[23:47] <tux_> jedix: that resolution is not present
[23:47] <tux_> !?
[23:47] <jedix> tux_: what is?
[23:48] <tux_> jedix: 1024x768
[23:48] <jedix> tux_: okay, then those horizontal refresh/etc are being detecting incorrectly
[23:48] <amichair_> stephane: I had the same problem, fixed by reinstalling plasma-desktop and/or kdebase-workspace (assuming you pass the login screen ok - otherwise it's a different problem)
[23:48] <jedix> tux_: check the back of your monitor for them.
[23:48] <tux_> ok will do
[23:49] <jedix> stephane: do you get the boot screen?
[23:49] <stephane> no i get noting
[23:50] <stephane> i have to press shut down button
[23:51] <jedix> stephane: well it sounds like a grub2 issue.. try reinstalling grub2 by using the kubuntu install cd as a rescue cd.
[23:51] <jedix> stephane: also, you may want to look up the slow boot up issue.. some people experienced waiting 20-30 minutes for grub.  it's fixed in a new version of grub though
[23:52] <jedix> stephane: the package is called grub-pc
[23:52] <tux_> jedix: here it says Max Sync Rate (V x H) 76 Hz x 83kHz
[23:52] <tux_> http://www.ciao.co.uk/Productinformation/Philips_190V7FB__6680883
[23:53] <stephane> ok i try all dat and if i dont come back is good news thank all of you
[23:53] <amichair_> stephane: good luck :-)
[23:54] <Empty_foo> how can I turn off the nag to update to 10.04 it's getting annoying...
[23:55] <tux_> jedix: so it would be HorizSync    30.0 - 83.0?
[23:56] <tux_> jedix: VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0?
[23:56] <tux_> jedix: just need the confirmation of an expert
[23:56] <tux_> :)


[07:48] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:10] <SuperEngineer> \o/
[08:30] <brobostigon> :)
[10:17] <farblue> morning all :) Does anyone know the best irc channel to ask about networking / tunnelling questions?
[10:21] <SuperEngineer> On Ubuntu?  If so, maybe try asking here?   See if somebody here has an answer?
[10:23] <SuperEngineer> ...or maybe just be impatient & disappear
[10:26] <SuperEngineer> On behalf of the whole channel, may I apologise for us not providing an answer in under 2 seconds.
[10:26]  * SuperEngineer is feeling sarcastic today!
[13:54] <SuperEngineer> Being a modest sort of person it would be wromg og me to say that I think I may have made and am now cooking the world's best chicken stuffing.  So I will say, "in all modesty, I think I may have made & am now cooking the world's best stuffing"
[13:56] <SuperEngineer> Trouble is, now that I've accomplished that, I feel it is the time to discontinue it and replace it with something worse.
[13:56] <SuperEngineer> ;-)


[03:20] <nothingman> hi, all
[13:02] <mgariepy> good morning everyone
[17:15] <mhall119> good afternoon
[17:15] <mhall119> anyone around?
[18:02] <highvoltage> mhall119: hey
[18:13] <mhall119> highvoltage: hiya
[18:14] <mhall119> wanted to share some good newas
[18:14] <mhall119> as of March 14th, I will be working for Canonical as a web develoer
[18:14] <highvoltage> mhall119: congratulations!
[18:15] <highvoltage> mhall119: someone else in the channel is joining Canonical too, I'm not sure how public that is yet though :)
[18:15] <mhall119> ah, nice
[18:15]  * mhall119 waits to hear who
[18:16] <mhall119> I'd ask in what capacity, but that would probably give it away
[18:16] <highvoltage> you'll get that answer from someone in a private window :)
[18:19] <mhall119> I did
[18:19] <mhall119> :)


[00:08] <nhaines> Darkwing: pong
[00:10] <Darkwing> nhaines: When are you going to start getting the talks for UbuCon.
[00:10] <nhaines> I'm working on some plans still, but hope to start promoting by Halloween weekend at the latest.
[00:11] <nhaines> I need to find out what the schedule is going to look like from the SCaLE staff, though.
[00:11] <Darkwing> nhaines: I'll get that for you. I'm having another SCALE meeting with Ilan in a couple hours.
[00:12] <nhaines> Darkwing: if it comes up, let him know that by November 1st I hope to start promoting for Ubucon.
[00:12] <Darkwing> nhaines: Aye, I'll let them know.
[00:42] <bkerensa> :(
[00:42] <bkerensa> Boinc seems to not work on 11.10
[01:18] <pleia2> woo sf ubuntu hour \o/
[01:18] <pleia2> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/6261940625/
[01:18] <pleia2> oneiric on oneiric tablet ;)
[01:19] <broder> is that a Plastic Pangolin sitting next to the tablet? :-P
[01:20] <pleia2> yep!
[01:23] <nhaines> pleia2: you should have answered "precisely!"
[01:25] <pleia2> haha, next time
[01:34] <broder> i gotta say, in spite of using it for the better part of a month, i still can't tell whether or not i think unity's new alt-tab switcher is too smart for its own good
[02:10] <MarkDude> http://usb.brando.com/usb-big-mouse_p02543c037d15.html
[02:10] <MarkDude> Hella big usb mouse
[02:11] <akk> I think I'd need sunglasses with something like that on my desk.
[02:11] <akk> Not to mention using 2 hands to move it.
[02:12]  * MarkDude wants to use it for Linux display
[02:12] <MarkDude> And say some crap about how MS will require people to use a mouse like this for Win 8
[02:13] <MarkDude> Part of the Metro interface
[02:14] <akk> heh
[02:31] <akk> Where is battery info these days? used to be /proc/acpi/battery or /sys/class/power_supply/battery but it seems to have moved (those don't exist any more).
[02:33] <akk> Can't figure out how to google for it because all the google hits show those two old locations.
[02:33] <broder> i don't know where to find the info specifically, but upower is responsible for aggregating power-related information these dyas
[02:33] <broder> *days
[02:33] <broder> you can use upower --dump
[02:34] <akk> I usually just type acpi
[02:34] <akk> but d wanted to know where to get the info without running that program (or if it wasn't installed).
[02:36] <broder> my laptop has a /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0
[02:37] <akk> Interesting ... his Dell didn't. (but my Vaio does, turns out ... if I plug the battery in, which it wasn't :)
[02:38] <broder> hmm...don't have a dell running oneiric to check. but upower should be installed on any ubuntu desktop machine
[02:38] <broder> upower --dump will print out the full path to the /sys device
[02:39] <broder> if you go to that directory and ls -ld subsystem, you can get the short path
[02:39] <akk> thanks, I'll pass that along (he just moved to another room with the dell)
[02:55] <nhaines> akk: I'm pretty sure my laptop still has /proc/acpi/battery
[02:57] <broder> hmm, mine does too, but all the interesting stuff is in /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0
[02:58] <nhaines> Right, but akk was saying that didn't even exist.
[02:59] <akk> Right, it didn't exist on the Dell, even though it was running off battery
[02:59] <akk> and the battery kernel module was loaded
[02:59] <broder> dell probably decided they were too cool for acpi or something
[03:03] <akk> They're a bit weird on batteries anyway ... the battery has some kind of chip in it to say whether it's a genuine Dell battery, or something.
[03:04] <akk> Some aftermarket batteries come with windows programs to trick windows into thinking it's a Dell battery (which of course doesn't work on linux).
[03:06] <MarkDude> grep "effing battery" EXISTS   <<< try that :D
[03:12] <grantbow> lol
[03:13] <MarkDude> Shhh, /me was reading some technical stuff - dont tell anyone
[03:14]  * MarkDude does not want to ruin his image
[03:14]  * grantbow can keep your secret MarkDude
[03:15] <MarkDude> Good deal
[04:40] <bkerensa> OH NO
[04:40] <bkerensa> :(
[04:41] <bkerensa> I missed akk
[04:48] <pleia2> fun release dinner :) had 10 people come out
[04:49] <bkerensa> !
[04:49] <bkerensa> Yay!
[04:49] <bkerensa> :D
[05:45] <zoclo> i have problems to install my printer in ubuntu 11.10
[06:52] <bkerensa> Gnight all
[09:00] <locodir-user_> is ne1 der
[17:14] <bkerensa> Dance Party! Ubuntu is 7 Years Old Today!
[17:15] <Darkwing> Nice!
[17:18]  * bkerensa just blogged about it ( Happy Birthday Ubuntu! http://j.mp/qqXomT )
[17:19] <Darkwing> I need to start blogging better.
[17:19] <Darkwing> Although, I'm opening up an old chapter to my programming.
[17:21] <nhaines> Darkwing: python?
[17:24] <bkerensa> pleia2: Will Regional Membership meeting be in #ubuntu-meeting ?
[17:24] <Darkwing> nhaines: Web apps and web programming
[17:25] <pleia2> bkerensa: yes
[17:25] <bkerensa> kk
[17:32] <Darkwing> http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/blog/design-logo-scale-10x-win-trip-la
[17:32] <Darkwing> bkerensa: Didn't know if you wanted to share that with your guys up north.
[17:33] <nhaines> The guys on the other side of the cube wall are arguing about Star Wars.
[17:35] <bkerensa> Darkwing: I have passed it along
[17:35] <bkerensa> :D
[17:35] <Darkwing> :D Figured a free trip to LA and SCaLE would be worth it.
[17:36] <Darkwing> Plus, it's less work I have to do. :D
[17:56] <nhaines> Darkwing: did you find out anything about scheduling?
[17:57] <Darkwing> nhaines: I'm waiting for the email. As soon as I get it I'll forward it to you.
[18:01] <nhaines> Darkwing: thanks.
[18:15] <Gareth> 'lo
[18:15] <Darkwing> nhaines, Gareth. Gareth, nhaines
[18:15] <Gareth> Darkwing: we've met :)
[18:15]  * Darkwing ducks

[18:16] <Gareth> hah
[18:16] <Gareth> nhaines: Hey Nathan :) understand you have some questions?
[18:16] <pleia2> geez, we let just anyone in here now don't we?
[18:16] <pleia2> :)
[18:16] <Gareth> apparently :)
[18:19]  * Gareth slinks into the shadows
[18:20] <nhaines> haha
[18:20] <nhaines> Gareth: yup, just wondering how many speakers I should con into speaking at Ubucon next year.  :)
[18:20] <Gareth> nhaines: schedule should be the same as last year.
[18:21] <nhaines> Gareth: okay, that should be easy enough.
[18:22] <Gareth> You might end up in the same room as last year too.
[18:22] <nhaines> Gareth: that'd be cool.  It was a nice setup.
[18:23] <bkerensa> Gareth: You coming up to Portland next year?
[18:24] <Gareth> bkerensa: not sure yet.
[18:25] <Gareth> I'd like to....Portland is awesome.
[21:24] <jyo> jtatum: So no street closures in Mt. View today, right? :P
[21:24] <jtatum> hopefully not :)
[21:25] <jtatum> it's too cold to go out on the street
[21:42] <pleia2> hm, it was just very bouncy in here
[21:42] <pleia2> earthquake :)
[21:44] <pleia2> that was stronger than the first one I felt, there was some serious bouncy
[21:45] <broder> huh, didn't make it down to the peninsula - i didn't notice anything
[21:49] <pleia2> ah, it was in berkeley, 4.2
[21:49] <jtatum> seeing various irc channels light up with earthquake in sf reports :)
[21:51] <broder> i think there was an xkcd comic about that :-P
[21:51] <pleia2> hehe
[21:51] <pleia2> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/dyfi/events/nc/71667366/us/index.html
[21:53] <broder> looks like i should have felt it
[21:55] <bkerensa> pleia2: Are you a wine fan?
[21:56] <pleia2> I enjoy wine
[21:56] <bkerensa> pleia2: I just got this http://www.flickr.com/photos/bkerensa/6264373715/in/photostream
[21:56]  * bkerensa is wondering if someday Jono's band Severed Fifth will have their own wine
[21:56] <bkerensa> :D
[21:57] <pleia2> cool
[21:57] <bkerensa> Yeah... Fiancee likes wine some but I'm not a big fan of drinking :P
[22:00] <akk> I didn't feel the quake at all in San Jose.
[22:00] <bkerensa> =o
[22:00] <bkerensa> akk: I have been looking for you :D
[22:00]  * bkerensa needs to ask a favor
[22:03]  * akk listens
[22:05] <bkerensa> akk: So we  (Ubuntu Oregon) have a sponsor for a banner and none of us are Gimp Masters and valorie says you are the Gimp Sensei :D we know what we want the layout to look like and we have the png's and one svg but the final product is looking a tad bit scrunched
[22:08] <akk> Scrunched? Do you have it online where I could look?
[22:09] <akk> (sorry for delays, I'm in the middle of a hot convo with Dell support trying to get this laptop to work ... in Windows, ick, then I get to try to figure out if it's possible in linux later on)
[22:09] <bkerensa> akk: It is on my other laptop right now I can grab it later when it comes to my office
[22:19] <akk> (yeesh, I hope it turns out to be easier to calibrate a touchscreen from linux than from windows ... this is crazy)
[22:22] <akk> I don't suppose anyone here knows anything about touchscreens? My worry is whether it's possible to calibrate sensitivity for the touchscreen and the touchpad separately.
[23:27] <akk> Anybody know how to generate an xorg.conf in oneiric? The old way of Xorg -configure doesn't work (gives errors).
[23:28] <akk> I'm trying to get a list of input devices X sees.
[23:34]  * MarkDude feels this way >> http://www.explainxkcd.com/2011/10/12/x11/
[23:34] <MarkDude> Every damn time I have learned how to mess with it
[23:34] <MarkDude> the way is changed
[23:34] <MarkDude> Like I am a bad user, and should not try it :)
[23:36] <akk> haha, yeah, I'd forgotten about that xkcd. So true.
[23:36] <akk> But I have this bum laptop that dell doesn't seem to know how to fix :(
[23:37] <bkerensa> MarkDude
[23:37] <bkerensa> PM?
[23:37] <MarkDude> Sure
[23:38] <MarkDude> I dont need to be asked on PM
[23:38] <MarkDude> Part of my being a public figure/d-bag
[23:38] <MarkDude> :D
[23:38] <MarkDude> Still a good idea to ask
[23:38] <MarkDude> Others at east
[23:48] <aaditya> MarkDude: You're a busy guy!
[23:48]  * MarkDude has been
[23:48] <MarkDude> How was your visit with your SoCal friend?
[23:49] <aaditya> It was amazing.
[23:49] <aaditya> No longer a SoCal friend though.
[23:50] <MarkDude> Good to hear
[23:50] <MarkDude> She moved closer?
[23:50] <aaditya> NorCal.
[23:50] <MarkDude> Alright
[23:50] <MarkDude> So when is the BBQ at your place
[23:50] <aaditya> A month from now, tentative.
[23:50] <MarkDude> Laura is hella down with vegetarian food
[23:50] <aaditya> awesome. We should do another in the meantime!
[23:50] <aaditya> I'm bringing her to the Ubuntu hour tonight btw.
[23:51] <raevol> Darkwing: any news on libertopia?
[23:54] <aaditya> She asked me if she could talk about how much she hates the UI. :P
[23:55] <Darkwing> raevol: I'm out of town and can't afford to foot the bill for the table. Our next event will be SCaLE up in LA in January.
[23:55] <MarkDude> lol
[23:58] <raevol> Darkwing: makes sense, no worries
[23:59] <raevol> i'm excited for SCaLE!
[23:59] <MarkDude> Hell yes for scale