[00:00] <samuel> so, my sound chipset is somehow frozen
[00:03] <ere4si> samuel, only other thing I can suggest is to type   killall wine   in a terminal and see if the situation improves
[00:05] <samuel> well, that was my first move too :D. I suppose I have to restart my computer. BUe.  YOU NEED TO RESTART YOUR COMPUTER TO FINISH THIS INSTALLATION, was the MS Windows famous word. How depressing
[00:10] <ere4si> hehe
[02:15] <nalioth> where are the settings for xfce kept?
[02:33] <Ultraputz> Sheep?
[02:35] <Ultraputz> having a problem with audacity freezing on record. strace produces the following:
[02:35] <Ultraputz> clone(child_stack=0xb52c84b4,
[02:35] <Ultraputz> flags=CLONE_VM|CLONE_FS|CLONE_FILES|CLONE_SIGHAND|CLONE_THREAD|CLONE_SYSVSEM|CLONE_SETTLS|CLONE_PARENT_SETTID|CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID,
[02:35] <Ultraputz> parent_tidptr=0xb52c8bd8, {entry_number:6, base_addr:0xb52c8b90,
[02:35] <Ultraputz> limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0,
[02:35] <Ultraputz> limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1},
[02:35] <Ultraputz> child_tidptr=0xb52c8bd8) = 7287
[02:35] <Ultraputz> futex(0x849dce8, FUTEX_WAIT, 0, NULLExpression 'bytesRead = read(
[02:35] <Ultraputz> component->fd, component->buffer, len )' failed in
[02:35] <Ultraputz> 'src/hostapi/oss/pa_unix_oss.c', line: 1079
[02:35] <Ultraputz> Expression 'PaOssStreamComponent_Read( stream->capture, &frames )'
[02:35] <Ultraputz> failed in 'src/hostapi/oss/pa_unix_oss.c', line: 1614
[02:35] <Ultraputz> anyone have any ideas?
[02:45] <entity> s
[02:45] <entity> s
[02:45] <entity> s
[02:45] <Ultraputz> python? :-)
[02:47] <entity> no sry, first time use of rsiss :D testing feutures :D
[02:47] <entity> features* ?
[02:48] <Ultraputz> features. english not your first language?
[02:49] <entity> nope :D though i'm trying my best
[02:50] <Ultraputz> oh, .se. "mensig tin" is the only swedish i know :-)
[02:51] <entity> hmm, somethings not right with that swedish, what where u trying to say?
[02:51] <Ultraputz> 'bitchy computer'
[02:53] <Ultraputz> you don't happen to be familiar with alsa audio ?
[02:53] <entity> hmm 'mesig' = 'dork' and 'computer' = 'dator'
[02:53] <entity> alsa audio?
[02:53] <Ultraputz> the audio layer...
[02:54] <Ultraputz> i'm having issues with Audacity freezing when i hit record. everything else works
[02:54] <entity> nope, never herd of it
[02:54] <entity> ..Ultraputz, I installed xubuntu for my first time 2 days ago :D
[02:55] <entity> so linux is kind of new to me..
[02:57] <entity> brb
[02:58] <Ultraputz> wb
[02:59] <entity> hmm my theme didn't change in irssi
[02:59] <Ultraputz> try xchat ?
[03:00] <entity> yeah, didn't like it.. I liked conversation a bit, but i whant to try irssi some more
[03:00] <Ultraputz> ircii is hard to argue with :-)
[03:00] <entity> hehe, like to learn :D
[03:01] <entity> hey, u run xubuntu right?
[03:01] <Ultraputz> ja
[03:01] <entity> ^^
[03:03] <entity> so, i tried to change my resolution to 1280*1024 isted of 1024*768 i got now, but there is no drivers for my crappy intregated graphic-card. but i tried some stuff on a guid. but it didnt change my resolution, only did it look more nice.
[03:03] <entity> I dont whant it too look more nice because it take resources from my laptop, can i change this back.. maybe you know what i accidently changed?
[03:03] <Ultraputz> where / how did you make the change ?
[03:04] <entity> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:04] <Ultraputz> x.org.conf or through the gui?
[03:04] <Ultraputz> ok
[03:04] <Ultraputz> do you have x up right now ?
[03:04] <entity> x?
[03:05] <entity> <-- newbie
[03:05] <Ultraputz> you have graphical interface up?
[03:06] <entity> hmm when i did this i typed that in terminal and a blu guide poped up :D is that what you mean?
[03:07] <Ultraputz> i meant do you have graphics and windows up, or are you running from text-based cli ?
[03:08] <entity> nope, graphic
[03:09] <Ultraputz> ok
[03:09] <Ultraputz> have you tried using the display settings under the menu /
[03:09] <Ultraputz> to change resolution ?
[03:10] <Ultraputz> instead of reconfigure ?
[03:10] <entity> hmm i cant get the higher resolutions, only default and 800*600
[03:11] <entity> it works in windows to run in 1280*1024 but there is no drivers in linux for me
[03:11] <Ultraputz> what is the graphics hardware ?
[03:12] <entity> ati igp 340m
[03:13] <Ultraputz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294297
[03:15] <entity> ...reading :D
[03:16] <entity> what does he mean with this? "i get relatively good speed with glxgears (1600 fps) with new dri installed from snapshot"
[03:16] <entity> i know what glxgears is, not dri and snapshot
[03:17] <Ultraputz> not sure :-)
[03:17] <Ultraputz> i have ancient hardware, and don't do much with accelerated 3d :-)
[03:18] <entity> kk
[03:29] <Ultraputz> wb
[03:29] <entity> w00t
[03:29] <entity> ahh.. welcome back i guess :D
[03:29] <Ultraputz> richtig
[03:30] <entity> i dont really get this with drivers and stuff in xubuntu
[03:30] <Ultraputz> the short version is, there are two problems
[03:30] <entity> k
[03:30] <Ultraputz> one is that some drivers are not the product of open source development.
[03:31] <entity> ahkey
[03:31] <Ultraputz> so there are supported and unsupported or "restricted" drivers
[03:31] <entity> kk
[03:31] <entity> well i dont like it :D
[03:31] <Ultraputz> so knowing that such a distinction exists, you need to look in more than one place :-)
[03:32] <entity> but this is a old laptop with a motherboard graphic card so i guess it will never work to get higher resolution
[03:32] <Ultraputz> this is still the general open source bugaboo -- plug and play is the goal, but the reality is, you will learn more about the drivers than you ever wanted to know unless you build a system out of known-supported hardware :-)
[03:32] <Ultraputz> it probably will
[03:32] <Ultraputz> you may try the obvious things like dropping back to 16 bit
[03:32] <Ultraputz> so it uses less memory
[03:34] <entity> i checked 'screen and graphics' options and that kind of interesting, but i dont dare to change too much there
[03:34] <Ultraputz> try 'display settings'
[03:36] <entity> well i can only choose default - 800*600 - 640 * 480
[03:36] <Ultraputz> does it specify its using a generic driver ?
[03:37] <entity> where can i see that?
[03:37] <Ultraputz> erm.
[03:37] <Ultraputz> lspci
[03:37] <entity> yep generic
[03:37] <Ultraputz> there may be your issue :-)
[03:37] <Ultraputz> it's the same as "safe mode" under windows -- generic vga/xga driver.
[03:38] <Ultraputz> bbiab
[03:38] <entity> aha..
[03:38] <Ultraputz> :-
[03:38] <Ultraputz> )
[03:39] <entity> hmm but if i change and it really dosent work, can I change it back somehow?
[03:40] <entity> isn't there a safemode without graphic or something like that?
[03:42] <nalioth> where does xfce keep it's .files ?
[03:42] <entity> one more question, how do i know what screen i got on a laptop?
[03:42] <entity> ~/. (learnd it today)
[03:43] <nalioth> entity: if you're answering me, i need a bit more info
[03:43] <nalioth> most dot files have names
[03:43] <nalioth> some have numbers
[03:43] <nalioth> none are dots alone
[03:45] <entity>  /home
[03:46] <entity> hmm i'm probably wrong byt the .maps is in /home (hidden)
[03:46] <Ultraputz> entity: if it fails, you bring it up in low-level and do you what you did before with dpkg
[03:47] <entity> kk.. i changed the settings to a screen similar to my laptop model but when i chose 1280*1024 it still runs in 1024*768.. do i need to reboot or something?
[03:48] <Ultraputz> try it :-)
[03:48] <Ultraputz> sudo shutdown -r now
[03:48] <entity> brb then :D
[03:48] <nalioth> i don't have a ~/.maps
[03:50] <entity> hmm no luck
[03:51] <Ultraputz> did it come up 1024 x 768 ?
[03:51] <entity> yep, and generic
[03:51] <Ultraputz> hrm
[03:51] <entity> wierd
[03:51] <Ultraputz> is it 16 bit depth ?
[03:51] <entity> dont knwo
[03:51] <entity> know*
[03:52] <entity> i guess it's the drivers fault.. and changing drivers i guess could be a bit risky
[03:53] <Ultraputz> what's to risk? it's a fresh install and you're learning. start hacking :-0
[03:54] <entity> hehe.. yeah well :D i guess I'll see you tomorrow then :D hehe
[03:54] <Ultraputz> cheers -- good luck !
[03:55] <entity> thx for all the help
[04:01] <Azodon> just installed xubuntu-desktop, , after about 5min i got it to look like my gnome setup, But xfce seems faster
[04:02] <Ultraputz> it is
[04:02] <Ultraputz> gnome is kinda fat
[04:02] <Azodon> compiz and all
[04:04] <Ultraputz> that's all candy, and it costs cpu. that's fine if you've got nothing better to do than eyecandy :-)
[04:04] <Azodon> gata use tha dual core 64 bit some how :)
[04:06] <Ultraputz> i use ancient crap, so xfce is a great solution to keep it simple and light :-)
[04:08] <Azodon> like to see some screens, compared my gnome to xfce ubuntu! ?  http://picasaweb.google.com/medicusc/LinuxScreenshots
[04:08] <Azodon> gana switch back and forth with them
[04:08] <Azodon> ubuntu makes it easy
[04:10] <Ultraputz> looking
[04:12] <Ultraputz> pretty :-)
[04:13] <Ultraputz> bbl
[04:13] <Azodon> all from same system,
[04:45] <Thingus> Does anyone know of a good dock bar that works in XFCE?
[04:45] <Thingus> AWN always steals focus.
[04:45] <Thingus> And, the only fix is to patch and compile XFCE
[04:45] <Thingus> Which is too much like work.
[04:53] <Kelt> Quick question.  In xubuntu how do I configure it so that OGLE automatically loads and plays a dvd when I stick it in?
[04:53] <Thingus> Gah, I'm running Feisty... Might as well upgrade to Gutsy and see what breaks.
[04:54] <Kelt> it all works fine.  I just want ogle to automatically start when a dvd is inserted
[05:06] <Ultraputz> ahoy
[05:07] <Ultraputz> thesheep ?
[05:08] <Phrantik> i really want xubuntu on a usb flash drive that will save changes and files... does anyone know of a good tutorial or a place to buy one?
[05:09] <Ultraputz> look at the DSL Linux pages, "linux on a stick" etc.
[05:09] <Ultraputz> DSL = "damned small linux"
[05:11] <Phrantik> thanx ultraputz... i'm kinda attached to the ubuntu family though
[05:11] <Phrantik> is dsl debian based
[05:11] <Ultraputz> it's not a specific kind
[05:11] <Ultraputz> it's a class
[05:11] <Ultraputz> it just means tiny linux installs
[05:12] <Ultraputz> er distros
[05:12] <Phrantik> o cool i always thought that was a distro
[05:12] <Phrantik> thanx
[05:12] <Ultraputz> soytenly
[05:12] <Ultraputz> bad_crc ayb ?
[05:13] <BaD_CrC> old
[05:13] <Ultraputz> :-)
[05:49] <brianko> trying to get svn working with apache2 in gutsy...installed the apache2-svn modules, and get an unresolved reference error on startup
[05:49] <brianko>  Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so: undefined symbol: dav_register_provider
[05:49] <brianko> any ideas?
[05:49] <Ultraputz> is it set up in your httpd.conf ?
[05:49] <Ultraputz> like modules set up?
[05:49] <Ultraputz> then apachectl restart ?
[05:49] <brianko> yes and yes
[05:50] <Ultraputz> module is loaded ?
[05:50] <Ultraputz> etc.
[05:50] <Ultraputz> ?
[05:50] <Ultraputz> (brb)
[05:50] <Ultraputz> is it set up for the directory, btw?/
[05:50] <brianko> error is generated while mod_dav is being loaded
[05:50] <Ultraputz> you need / use webdav?
[05:51] <brianko> no, but you need dav to use authz-svn
[05:51] <brianko> this works fine on a CentOS machine, I'm trying to move everything over to gutsy
[05:54] <brianko> hmm...nothing in the bug tracker...can't believe I'm the only one with this problem.  I can only guess there's an unmet dep somewhere...
[06:07] <Ultraputz> you copied over your httpd.conf ?
[06:07] <Ultraputz> or did you manually edit the local copy ?
[06:08] <Ultraputz> i'm picking at this because %99 of the problems that pop up if you know what you're doing is a forgotten # somewhere or not set up right in the privelege declarations.
[06:11] <brianko> ok, found the problem
[06:11] <Ultraputz> it was ?
[06:11] <brianko> when the apache2_dav package is installed, it sets up a dav_svn.load link...
[06:12] <brianko> but, it does *not* set up the dav.load link
[06:12] <brianko> so it was a dep issue
[06:13] <Ultraputz> might toss a comment to the bug tracker
[06:13] <brianko> doing so now...although this probably is more of a user error than anything
[06:14] <brianko> thanks for the assist
[06:18] <Ultraputz> sorry i wasn't more useful :-)
[06:28] <Ultraputz> i got a small issue myself related to audacity
[06:28] <Ultraputz> component->fd, component->buffer, len )' failed in
[06:28] <Ultraputz> 'src/hostapi/oss/pa_unix_oss.c', line: 1079
[06:28] <Ultraputz> Expression 'PaOssStreamComponent_Read( stream->capture, &frames )'
[06:28] <Ultraputz> failed in 'src/hostapi/oss/pa_unix_oss.c', line: 1614
[06:28] <Ultraputz> strace dump
[06:49] <MaximusBrood> Hello
[06:49] <Thingus> Great googly moogly, this upgrade is taking forever.
[06:50] <MaximusBrood> Is there a way to setup Xubuntu remotely, or isn't this the intended purpose for Xubuntu?
[06:50] <MaximusBrood> (like Debian, which offers a disk install)
[06:51] <MaximusBrood> I got boot-time terminal access to the machine, but no graphics whatsoever.
[06:51] <MaximusBrood> I've*
[06:52] <Ultraputz> is x set up ?
[06:53] <MaximusBrood> I doubt you have understood my question.
[06:54] <MaximusBrood> It's a remote machine, I'm asking if I can install Xubuntu remotely (with boot-time terminal access, but no graphics). Or if that isn't the intended purpose of Xubuntu.
[06:57] <Ultraputz> i don't know, actually.
[06:57] <Ultraputz> sorry.
[08:06] <blackest> Got a big problem with xubuntu hardy i cant do any thing with sudo since it says unable to resolve host
[08:08] <blackest> all i can do with networking is ping the gateway/router by ip address
[08:15] <ere4si> blackest, what is listed in your /etc/hosts file
[08:15] <ere4si> !paste | blackest
[08:15] <ubotu> blackest: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[08:16] <blackest> not so easy when networking isnt working on the xubuntu pc
[08:19] <ere4si> blackest, can you use sneakernet - copy the file to usb drive then paste from the comp with net access?
[08:19] <blackest> off hand i think it has <IP_ADDRESS> localhost and <IP_ADDRESS> eeepc followed by some ip6 stuff
[08:25] <blackest> actually its now eeepc.consulate.lan for <IP_ADDRESS> i changed the hostname in networking coz i couldnt change hosts
[08:27] <ere4si> blackest, the eeepc has its' own chat for issues - seems it has some unique issues :) - /j #eeepc - will get you there
[08:28] <blackest> its that hardy kernel which seems to mess some of it up
[08:29] <blackest> the .22 version seems to let me get some net access .24 nothing
[08:31] <ere4si> blackest, well hardy is still beta atm - there's bound to be issues - asked in #ubuntu+1 the hardy channel?
[08:31] <blackest> ok good advice thank you
[08:31] <ere4si> k :)
[08:34] <blackest> well the older kernel is letting me grab ubuntu-desktop so thats a help (i feel more comfortable with gnome)
[09:49] <jepes>  can i increase the number of virtual desktops on xubuntu ?
[09:49] <jepes> !ping
[09:51]  * jepes asks "guys???"
[09:56] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[13:45] <Sekaab> Hello there
[13:46] <^u^> !hi
[13:49] <ArmyMan007> hi
[13:50] <ArmyMan007> I want to ask a question regarding Xubuntu
[13:50] <Sekaab> ask right away
[13:50] <ArmyMan007> okey
[13:51] <ArmyMan007> I've installed version 7.04 of Xubuntu
[13:51] <ArmyMan007> alternate install
[13:51] <ArmyMan007> and I want to install version 7/10 alternate install
[13:51] <ArmyMan007> so, I have 2 questions:
[13:51] <ArmyMan007> 1) Is version 7.10 going to be installed on the 7.04 version?
[13:52] <ArmyMan007> 2) is there a difrence between alternate install and normal one?
[13:52] <Sekaab> wait a minute please
[13:52] <blackest> you could or just install the eeeXubuntu cd thats 7.10
[13:52] <ArmyMan007> ?
[13:52] <ArmyMan007> eeeXubuntu?
[13:52] <ArmyMan007> :O
[13:53] <blackest> yes theres a torrent for it
[13:53] <blackest> http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ubuntu:eeexubuntu:home
[13:53] <^u^> ArmyMan007, alternate is a method of install -you get the same product as normal - and to install 7.10 you would need to format the partition 7.04 is on or do the recommended and upgrade 7.04 to 7.10
[13:54] <ArmyMan007> I can't upgrade since I don't have internet
[13:54] <ArmyMan007> the only reason I'm getting the version 7.10 is because I can setup the internet easliy there...
[13:55] <^u^> ArmyMan007, then when you go to install 7.10 it is going to need free space - is there any on your disk?
[13:55] <ArmyMan007> I want to put it where the Xubuntu 7.04 is
[13:56] <^u^> ArmyMan007, what trouble do you have with setting up a net connection?
[13:56] <ArmyMan007> do I need to format it before I install the 7.10?
[13:56] <ArmyMan007> people saying it would be easier to assist me via 7.10
[13:56] <^u^> ArmyMan007, formatting and partitioning is something the installer will let you do
[13:57] <^u^> so you can format during install
[13:57] <ArmyMan007> okey
[13:57] <^u^> ArmyMan007, is it wireless connection?
[13:57] <ArmyMan007> I know where the 7.04 is installed...
[13:57] <ArmyMan007> yes
[13:57] <^u^> LeAstrale, is here maybe
[13:58] <ArmyMan007> blackest -> eeeXubuntu is for ePC, not a desktop one...
[13:58] <^u^> he's good with the wireless
[13:59] <^u^> ArmyMan007, if you have nothing that will be missed with a reinstall - that might be easiest - if you make a separate /home partition the next time you reinstall you're settings will be saved
[14:01] <ArmyMan007> ^u^ -> the installtion is about to take place where the 7.04 is installed
[14:02] <ArmyMan007> ^u^ -> so it dosn't matter
[14:02] <ArmyMan007> ^u^ ->
[14:02] <^u^> k
[14:02] <ArmyMan007> ^u^ -> once I get the 7.10 installed, I will be able to get assistance regarding wireless connection
[14:03] <^u^> good luck then :)
[14:03] <ArmyMan007> ^u^ -> thanks! better get started... l8er :)
[14:03] <Sekaab> i would help you even with 7.04, i am still using it
[14:03]  * Sekaab shrugs
[14:03] <Sekaab> i like 7.04, its working ...
[14:04] <^u^> it happens
[14:04] <Sekaab> my server is running 7.10 though
[14:04] <^u^> just 'cause there's something new doesn't mean you have to use it...
[14:04]  * Sekaab nods
[14:05] <^u^> :)
[14:13] <LeAstrale> whay do you ask for me U ?
[16:29] <prin> My laptop battery seems to be acting very strange under xubuntu. Is there a way, maybe a command in the terminal, to see exactly how many percent of the battery is charged?
[16:42] <prin> Nevermind, problem solved.
[16:47] <oxthemoron> hello
[16:47] <Sekaab> Hi
[16:47] <mjw-> if you're on a battery, you should have a battery icon in the notification tray ;)
[16:48] <mjw-> hi there
[16:48] <omsanti> hi all
[16:48] <oxthemoron> I have a quick question... I'm installing xubuntu on my other computer and it's been "copying installation logs..." for about an hour
[16:49] <oxthemoron> how do i make it finish?
[16:49] <omsanti> how to configure xdsl on xubuntu? anyone plz
[16:49] <oxthemoron> :-)
[18:17] <ArmyMan007> hi everybody
[18:17] <ArmyMan007> I need help on how to get my internet up and running
[18:17] <ArmyMan007> I need to configure my network, and I need a one on one help
[18:19] <gabkdlly> hi ArmyMan007
[18:20] <gabkdlly> did you try Applications -> System -> Network ?
[18:20] <ArmyMan007> what the hell was that???
[18:21] <ArmyMan007> I just need some help on how to configure it all...
[18:21] <gabkdlly> how can we help you?
[18:22] <ArmyMan007> well...
[18:22] <ArmyMan007> I kinda need a step-by-step guide on how to do so
[18:22] <ArmyMan007> I have lots of time now, so I'm free to do so...
[18:22] <ArmyMan007> and I really want to get the internet to work...
[18:23] <ArmyMan007> !netsplit
[18:23] <gabkdlly> file:///usr/share/xubuntu-docs/internet.html
[18:23] <ArmyMan007> no no
[18:23] <ArmyMan007> guides are usless
[18:24] <ArmyMan007> i can't understand a thing out of it...
[18:24] <ArmyMan007> i really need some help...
[18:25] <ArmyMan007> and by the way... i'm using the internet computer which has XP, the other one (without the internet) has Xubuntu
[18:26] <gabkdlly> do you have both computers running right now?
[18:26] <ArmyMan007> yes
[18:28] <ArmyMan007> can you help me out setting my network? I have a wireless network...
[18:28] <ArmyMan007> can you help me out setting my network? I have a wireless network...
[18:28] <gabkdlly> well, go to Applications -> System -> Network
[18:29] <ArmyMan007> is it possible to keep on going using PM?
[18:29] <ArmyMan007> okey.. i got it
[18:30] <ArmyMan007> what now?
[18:30] <dezrik> Is anyone about, i have a problem :o
[18:31] <gabkdlly> click on "Wireless Connection", then on Properties
[18:31] <gabkdlly> then you will have a little form to fill out
[18:32] <ArmyMan007> i've got wired connection
[18:32] <ArmyMan007> not wireless connection...
[18:32] <gabkdlly> in that case, click on wired connection and then on properties
[18:33] <ArmyMan007> and then?
[18:34] <gabkdlly> hmm, to tell you the truth, I have never configured a wired ethernet connection under Xubuntu, sorry
[18:35] <ArmyMan007> oh...
[18:35] <gabkdlly> I tend to think that if you have your router set up right, you should just be able to plug it in and everything should work
[18:36] <gabkdlly> I guess I am assuming that your router connects to your Xubuntu computer using ethernet
[18:36] <gabkdlly> is that so?
[18:36] <ArmyMan007> well... beats me.. better get some help... l8er
[18:37] <dezrik> i need help with my xorg.conf
[18:37] <gabkdlly> dezrik: please state your question
[18:38] <dezrik> My resolution is 800x600 and i need it to be 1024x768 i entered this res in xorg.conf and it seems like xorg is ignoring my config
[18:40] <gabkdlly> !resolution
[18:40] <ubotwo> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:43] <gabkdlly> dezrik: does that help?
[18:43] <dezrik> one sec ill see
[18:48] <dezrik> that worked
[18:48] <dezrik> i tryed CTRL+ALT+Backspace and it didnt work :o
[18:48] <dezrik> thank you
[18:48] <dezrik> One more thing, My Wireless drops alot when i was on Windows it never dropped
[18:49] <dezrik> im using a Atheros card
[18:49] <dezrik> and it worked "Out-of-Box
[18:50] <gabkdlly> hmmm, maybe the linux drivers are buggy?
[18:50] <dezrik> they are madwifi drivers
[18:50] <rech> hey, since I've updated from 7.04 to 7.10, gksu is taking an eternity to auth me... Is there any way that I could fix/configure it to take less time?
[18:51] <gabkdlly> I guess you could check if bugs have been filed for this driver
[18:52] <gabkdlly> I myself use ndiswrapper to wrap the functionality from windows XP drivers, but your mileage may vary
[18:52] <Neumann> getting "the configuration could not be loaded" "you are not allowed to access the system configuration" on boot, appears to be attached to networking conf. no idea why this is popping up.
[18:52] <Neumann> checked /etc/network/*, interfaces is correct, permissions are correct.
[19:00] <dezrik> how do you load Scripts in X-Chat
[19:30] <Gabrys> hello here :)
[19:31] <Gabrys> anyone tried HardyHeron with Broadcom WIFI network card?
[19:39] <sonicreindeer> Naw, can't say as I have, Gabrys. I actuially attemptuing to ressurect Feisty from an over-aggressive Jaguar. Jag w/ the Classic sys folders loaded on top as a client experiement on my box destroyed my bootloader.
[19:40] <sonicreindeer> I've burned a PC ISO to load into my dead PC in the back so I can rebrun my Feisty image for a rescue/ boot repair.
[19:40] <sonicreindeer> reburn
[19:41] <TheSheep> sonicreindeer: you can use any livecd distro or linux bootdisk for that
[19:41] <sonicreindeer> All I have @ my disposal is my G4 w/ Jaguar loaded.
[19:41] <sonicreindeer> Ok.
[19:41] <Gabrys> sonicreindeer: and is there an option, that I just miss installing b43-fwcutter?
[19:42] <Gabrys> do I need this installed if I want the BCM to start working
[19:43] <Gabrys> sonicreindeer: I've just read, this may be the problem
[19:43] <Gabrys> anyways, thank for help
[19:44] <sonicreindeer> Anytime.
[19:45] <Gabrys> see you
[20:44] <holo> the kernel 2.4 images were suposed to be in universe right?
[21:03] <atahualpa> hi
[21:03] <atahualpa> how can I get to the console?
[21:05] <holx> hi
[21:06] <holx> anyone know why my thunar fails to display directories with a lot of files completely
[21:06] <holx> ?*
[21:07] <holx> 406 items and it shows much less
[21:51] <entity> why dosen't my theme change the apperance on the "menu bar" at the buttom and the top?
[21:56] <j1mc> entity: good question.
[21:56] <j1mc> i don't really have an answer for you, though.
[22:03] <entity> hehe k.. does yours change?
[22:05] <j1mc> entity: no, my panel doesn't chane color when i change the theme.
[22:08] <entity> hmm because when i look at theme's for xubuntu everyone got the theme on the panel too
[22:11] <PsynoKhi0> heya, a quick question: what's the difference between the "unprivileged" and "desktop user" profiles in the "Add user" window?
[22:15] <holo> PsynoKhi0: i don't know exacly but intuitively i would say that a desktop user is in video/group for example and he could also scale to root and unprivileged not
[22:21] <PsynoKhi0> holo: ok
[22:21] <PsynoKhi0> ty
[22:22] <entity> j1mc:  maybe its a setting somewhere?
[22:23] <j1mc> entity: you may want to ask in #xfce ... sorry i can't help at this time.
[22:59] <Thingus> Gutsy isn't detecting my laptop battery.
[23:27] <acaceol> Woot, irssi works.
[23:27] <Ultraputz> ack.
[23:29] <Thingus> Does anyone have any idea why my battery isn't detected?
[23:32] <vidd> check to see if you have gnome-power-manager running
[23:34] <Thingus> vidd: Doesn't seem to do anything
[23:35] <Thingus> And /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state says it's not there.
[23:36] <Thingus> Right, thanks for the help.
[23:41] <Thingus> Hello?
[23:41] <Thingus> Anyone even here?
[23:41] <acaceol> I am
[23:41] <acaceol> Trying to figure out how to look at ison in irssi :/
[23:41] <Thingus> Oh, good, maybe you can help me out...
[23:41] <TheSheep> Thingus: is it an old laptop?
[23:41] <Thingus> TheSheep: Vaguely... Built in 2000.
[23:41] <zoredache> vidd: re the bugg you posted a couple days ago...  I did a clean install of xubuntu 6.06, and then did an upgrade to hardy... The upgrade went fine, all my ttys where available
[23:42] <TheSheep> Thingus: check dmesg and see if there is a varning about acpi and a cutoff
[23:42] <TheSheep> Thingus: to do that, type 'dmesg | less' in terminal
[23:43] <Thingus> [ 1587.855206] ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found.
[23:43] <Thingus> That seem likely?
[23:44] <vidd> zoredache, hrm
[23:44] <TheSheep> Thingus: I think that's normal
[23:44] <Ultraputz> hey sheep
[23:44] <vidd> zoredache, what were your specks?
[23:44] <Ultraputz> i finally got an strace on audacity
[23:45] <TheSheep> Ultraputz: any enlightement?
[23:45] <Ultraputz> booting the machine
[23:45] <Ultraputz> there's also an ethernet issue that prevents me from using it online atm.
[23:45] <TheSheep> Ultraputz: well, you probably want to attach it to a bug report
[23:45] <vidd> and zoredache did you do the upgrade from the desktop, or from the tty?
[23:45] <Thingus> [   41.444000] ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery absent)
[23:45] <Thingus> But, the battery is there.
[23:46] <Ultraputz> i see what it is, i'm hoping against hope that somewhere in that wooly brain of yours, is an "oh, that. just do x" :-)
[23:47] <Thingus> TheSheep: I didn't see anything that really stood out at me.
[23:48] <TheSheep> Thingus: then I don't know. I was thinking that maybe acpi is not enabled (it's not enabled for computers manufactured before 2000 without a force boot option)
[23:48] <acaceol> How do I view the server status window in IRSSI?
[23:48] <TheSheep> acaceol: server status window?
[23:48] <Ultraputz> ok, paraphrasing, src/hostapi/oss/pa_unix_oss.c expression "PaOssStreamComponent_Read( stream->capture, &frames )'' failed in src/hostapi/oss/pa_unix_oss.c
[23:48] <TheSheep> acaceol: maybe try asking at #irssi
[23:49] <Ultraputz> that's the meat of the trace where hitting record broke it
[23:49] <Thingus> Guh... -.-
[23:49] <TheSheep> Ultraputz: you can't use alsa?
[23:49] <acaceol> The one that /help goes to
[23:49] <Ultraputz> it fails regardless of which combination of also settings i shoot for.
[23:49] <Ultraputz> er alsa
[23:49] <Thingus> Hrm... Let me reboot and see if I can't tweak something.
[23:50] <Ultraputz> also, i verified the mic is working through the control panel (which seems to reflect OSSisms) -- playthrough from the mic worked (and produced terrifick feedback)
[23:51] <Ultraputz> in fact, i can set the volume on the mic and recreate the feedback / playthrough in audacity with /dev/oss set.
[23:51] <TheSheep> Ultraputz: I have no ideas, maybe report a bug and attach whatever info you collected to it
[23:52] <Ultraputz> top
[23:52] <Ultraputz> er
[23:52] <TheSheep> Ultraputz: you might also want to report it at audacity's bugtracker, and make a link to the ubuntu's one
[23:52] <TheSheep> Ultraputz: chances are the authors will know best
[23:52] <Ultraputz> ja
[23:52] <Ultraputz> so in the short-term, can you recommend a lightweight audio recorder package?
[23:53] <TheSheep> Ultraputz: gnome-audio?
[23:53] <Ultraputz> i'd like to see if i can recreate it with a second application
[23:53] <Ultraputz> that's lightweight ?
[23:53] <TheSheep> let me check
[23:53] <Ultraputz> the word 'gnome' raised a red flag :-)
[23:54] <TheSheep> Ultraputz: it means nothing, really, just that the app was good enough to be accepted in gnome
[23:54] <Ultraputz> aha
[23:54] <TheSheep> no, wait, gnome-audio only contains sounds
[23:54]  * Ultraputz attempts the stupid...
[23:55] <TheSheep> ok, it's gnome-media, but has quite a bunch of gnome deps
[23:55] <Ultraputz> that was my fear.
[23:55] <Ultraputz> i was trying to just cp from the device to a file to see what came out
[23:56] <Thingus> Well, that sucks... I guess the only way for me to check my battery state is to use the Fn key, or lift up the laptop and press the button on the underside of the battery.
[23:56] <Ultraputz> that works
[23:57] <Ultraputz> cp /dev/dsp tmp.raw
[23:57] <Ultraputz> ...
[23:57]  * Ultraputz eyes audacity suspiciously.
[23:57] <TheSheep> then copy it back
[23:57] <TheSheep> you're doing it from an user or root?
[23:57] <Ultraputz> as user
[23:57] <Ultraputz> and it's working
[23:58] <Ultraputz> at the very least, i have a working recorder :-)
[23:58] <Thingus> Gar...
[23:58] <TheSheep> Ultraputz: you are aware that only one app can use oss at a time
[23:58] <Thingus> Maybe I should just go back to Feisty.
[23:58] <Thingus> Everything worked fine then.
[23:59] <TheSheep> Thingus: reporting a bug might help making it work in future versions


[00:23] <MDC2> hi guys! how you like this; http://www.mejlamej.nu/spinner-startup.png ?
[02:18] <raozuzu> MDC2: nice! :D
[04:03] <dashua> Has anyone done any work on that WillieIbex theme from Intrepid?
[04:04] <dashua> I remember MacSlow saying something of possibly making that become a reality, but all of the attempts were not very pretty.
[04:14] <mac_v> dashua: i remember the theme faintly , link pls :) , i think MacSlow now has is hands full with notify-osd
[04:15] <mac_v> nevermind... i have the theme installed ;p i guess i didnt use it...
[04:17] <dashua> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/GoodDarkTheme
[04:17] <dashua> That's the mockup
[04:17] <dashua> Although, it did not appear as pretty as the mockup for usability for some reason
[04:19] <mac_v> yeah... the menu rounded edges aernt implemented
[04:21] <dashua> http://macslow.net/?p=228
[04:21] <dashua> There it is.
[04:22] <dashua> Ah, it was a gdm
[04:24] <mac_v> dashua: hehe , now in Karmic there can be no theming of gdm ;p
[04:25] <dashua> I can't even get the new login window configuration to work.  Keeps crashing on me =/
[04:27] <mac_v> the funny thing is , i have autologin set , so if i log out , i get re-logged in immediately, with no time delay..! ;p
[04:28] <dashua> Have to love unstable releases.
[04:28] <dashua> I feel better though that things are breaking which is usually a good sign of new things
[04:29] <dashua> Jaunty was quite stable from A2
[04:29] <dashua> Karmic is starting to break :)
[04:29] <mac_v> dashua: i think mat_t is working on a gdm theme almost similar to macslow's
[04:30] <dashua> Oh nice.  I do recall him asking about fading with Compiz
[04:30] <mac_v> i saw the mockup somewhere... i just cant find it again!
[04:30] <dashua> So, that will be nice
[04:31] <dashua> I'm messing around with the window resize papercut, no real progress yet.
[04:33] <dashua> mac_v, Anything going on with Breathe or did efforts shift to Humanity?
[04:33] <mac_v> dashua: i think the real solution to that would be to add *invisible* border when the user moves from inside the window to the border , so that the handles grabs the handle
[04:34] <dashua> I'm trying that now
[04:34] <dashua> Not looking too good yet =/
[04:34] <mac_v> dashua: breathe is stuck , seb & cory are busy , so...
[04:35] <dashua> Ah, I see.
[04:35] <mac_v> i dont think humanity and breathe have any connection? or do they?
[04:35] <dashua> Not sure.
[04:36] <dashua> Pretty damn sexxy set though.
[04:36] <dashua> I'm really starting to dig it.
[04:37] <mac_v> i like the colors dan has used for the icons , they are so creamy/fluffy
[04:38] <dashua> Yeah, the battery icons for g-p-m are pretty sick.
[04:40] <mac_v> you mean the grey or the colored ones?
[04:40] <dashua> The grey ones for full battery then to the colors
[04:40] <dashua> Very dimensional
[04:41] <mac_v> dashua: mat_t's face browser was here > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot#Suggestion%20Two , but seems the link is now edited
[04:42] <mac_v> yeah... the battery colors , i didnt like very much... they seems out of humanity's color palatte
[04:42] <mac_v> seem*
[04:42] <dashua> I just noticed them on my netbook and they looked pretty good.
[04:43] <dashua> My other laptop is always plugged in so I never see the icons in action.
[04:43] <mac_v> me too ;p
[04:43] <dashua> They didn't seem that out of place
[04:44] <mac_v> the blue was too loud , the rest of the colors are milder...
[04:44] <dashua> Yeah
[04:45] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/21440/screenshot_002_YVaLYc.png
[04:45] <dashua> nm-applet is hard to see
[04:45] <mac_v> exactly
[04:45] <mac_v> the bars are difficult to differentiate
[04:46] <dashua> I filed a bug on it.
[04:46] <mac_v> dashua: comments > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/indicator24.svg
[04:46] <dashua> Looks ok on a lighter theme.
[04:47] <dashua> Looks good.  Is that for the drawer applet?
[04:47] <mac_v> hehe... actually i was trying to make an inbox :(
[04:48] <mac_v> i think he should just have the bars *only* for the signals
[04:48] <dashua> Ah yeah.  It could server a dual purpose ;)
[04:49] <dashua> The blue looked ok, now this is difficult to see
[04:49] <mac_v> thats canonical.... they want only monochrome for the panel
[04:50] <mac_v> dashua: does the inbox fit humanity? do you see any difference in style?
[04:50] <mac_v> from the panel icons
[04:50] <dashua> No, it actually fits pretty nice
[04:51] <dashua> He's using a light gradient for the greys it seems
[04:51] <mac_v> Daniel liked too.... just have to some how force sabdfl to use it insted of the envelope for the indicator applet!
[04:51] <dashua> Oh, he didn't like it?
[04:51] <mac_v> ;p
[04:52] <mac_v> havent shown him yet
[04:52] <dashua> Ah
[04:55] <mac_v> dashua: design team> One of the things we found in usability testing is that folks would go there for their mail even when it wasn't running."" this was with the icon displayed or without the icon? last i heard from him , they are going along with the envelope since no one came up with a better icon for the indicator applet ! that was on friday... lets see what happens on monday ;p
[04:56] <dashua> Oh cool.  Do you have an indicator new icon as well.  I will test it out.
[04:56] <mac_v> yeah
[04:57] <mac_v> dashua: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/indicator-messages-new.svg
[04:58] <dashua> Cool. Thx :)
[04:59] <mac_v> dashua: anything you notice wrong with the messages-new icon?
[05:00] <dashua> Wow.  Looks good mate.
[05:00] <mac_v> the glow idea, within the inbox was kwwii's ;p
[05:00] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/21441/screenshot_003_9GL747.png
[05:03] <mac_v> \o/ ,actually i'm unable to view my icon perfectly due to > Bug #410254 , i use vertical panels!
[05:04] <dashua> Oh damn.
[05:11] <dashua> mac_v, Nite mate.  See you tomorrow.
[05:11] <mac_v> sure... bye :)
[17:12] <mac_v> mat_t: hi... i expected a reply exactly to the word... you didnt dissapoint ;p   it was such a thrill watching th progressbar zoom across :p
[17:21] <mat_t> :)
[17:22] <mac_v> mat_t: about the vertical battery icons... any desicions?
[17:23] <mat_t> throbber works well if there's less than 10s of looking at it - if the boot speed is consistent, the throbber actually becomes a progress indication
[17:23] <mat_t> mac_v: sorry didn't have time to look yet - thanks for reminding me
[17:23] <mat_t> will look right now
[17:23] <mac_v> no probs :)
[17:46] <mat_t> mac_v: looks good ? the only thing I'm not sure about is the little lightning
[17:47] <mac_v> mat_t: as in? you want it bigger?
[17:47] <mat_t> mac_v: looks a bit flat, doesn't inherit the shading
[17:47] <mat_t> I think the size is fine
[17:48] <mat_t> It looks a bit superimposed though, doesn't feel like the part of the battery
[17:48] <mac_v> mat_t: shading , in the flash creates problems when mainting the color for the progress , ie in the 40% 60%
[17:48] <mac_v> oh that... o
[17:48] <mat_t> yeah I can imagine it being tricky
[17:49] <mac_v> mat_t: my idea was to have it superimposed... your want it etched in?
[17:49] <mat_t> Is there any other way we can indicate charging?
[17:51] <mac_v> charging , we could add this plug in the side> notification-power-disconnected.svg < a small plug
[17:52] <mac_v> mat_t: we could keep the battery off-center and add the plug
[17:56]  * mac_v looks back at the converstaion and notices a *lot* of typos!
[17:57] <mac_v> again! conversation*
[18:14] <mat_t> mac_v: nah, I'd rather keep the battery central
[18:14] <mac_v> mat_t: so, you want an etched-in flash?
[18:15] <mat_t> maybe we could try making the inside of the battery glow when it's charging?
[18:15]  * mat_t is thinking out of da box
[18:16] <mac_v> glow using monochrome colors? and how well would it convey the idea of charging?
[18:17]  * mac_v turns to google for ideas ;p
[18:17] <mat_t> :)
[18:21] <MDC2> andreasn, i've got a question about using icons; metacity and the taskbars window menu (min, max, close) - should these keep their icons even it shouldn't according to the design guides...?
[18:22] <andreasn> MDC2, you should probably ask mpt about that, he
[18:22] <andreasn> 's the guidelines guy
[18:22] <andreasn> he's in #ubuntu-desktop
[18:22] <MDC2> ah, thanks
[18:22] <mac_v> MDC2: 0.o from the title bars!
[18:22] <MDC2> mac_v, ?
[18:23] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[18:23] <mac_v> MDC2: removing the icons , from the title bars?
[18:23] <MDC2> mac_v, why would you like to do that? or.. what?
[18:23] <andreasn> I'm also quite jetlagged, so I should not be trusted with any kind of questions about anything that requires thinking :)
[18:23] <MDC2> hehe.. nice - where've you been?
[18:24] <andreasn> I used to be in Gothenburg, where I live
[18:24] <mac_v> MDC2: oh... i misread... you meant window menu... ah ...
[18:24] <andreasn> and now I'm in Vancouver
[18:25] <MDC2> andreasn, did you get some sun? been sunny here for a few days (linköping)
[18:26]  * mac_v likes icons *every* where ;p
[18:26] <MDC2> mac_v, but now they're gone.. forever and ever ;-)
[18:27] <mac_v> MDC2:  i just turn them on in gconf ... ;p , thats what i love about open source , you can always hack it :)
[18:28] <MDC2> mac_v, let's see how many developers who will care about setting icons in menus and stuff now when they're gone by default..
[18:29] <MDC2> mac_v, but it's opensource as you said :-)
[18:29] <andreasn> MDC2, oh, you're located in Linköping, cool. Weather in Gothenburg seems to be roughly the same (rainy)
[18:29] <andreasn> but it was quite nice in Gothenburg when I left
[18:31] <MDC2> andreasn, yep mostly rainy in gothenburg, rainy last time I was there as well ;)
[18:32] <andreasn> was it windy then as well?
[18:32] <andreasn> it usually is
[18:33] <andreasn> so umbrellas is a nono
[18:33] <MDC2> andreasn, were at liseberg with some friends and quite windy up in the air :)
[18:35] <MDC2> any suggestion for bugs to work on today?
[18:36] <MDC2> preferable nautilus or libwnck
[18:37] <MDC2> fixed http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384435 yesterday and the result; http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=140285&action=view - better then before?
[19:03] <dashua> mac_v, I just noticed a similar outbox icon on my Pre except it has a star in the box.
[19:03] <dashua> I like it.
[19:04] <mac_v> hates dashua boasting about his PRE ;p
[19:04] <dashua> Hehe
[19:04] <dashua> Just noticed it today.
[19:05] <dashua> mac_v, What is this new throbber you were speaking of?  Boot animation?
[19:08] <mac_v> dashua: yeah... they are using the boot animation , but i prefer the progress bar
[19:08] <mac_v> *using the throbber for the boot
[19:09] <dashua> Ah, is that uploaded yet or still in testing?
[19:10] <mac_v> dashua: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot/Demo
[19:10] <MDC2> mac_v, very "glowy" menu items
[19:11] <mac_v> MDC2: not my idea ;p
[19:11] <MDC2> pretty nice, but I don't like the background color
[19:11] <MDC2> a color with more "color" - something that made you feel happy would be nice :)
[19:12] <MDC2> mac_v, otherwise really nice!
[19:15] <mac_v> MDC2: i too dont like the background color... > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2009-August/011206.html you can follow this thread
[19:17] <MDC2> mac_v, great! keep up bothering them :)
[19:18] <mac_v> MDC2: they dont bother that easy , and i dont have so much patience ,to make them ;p
[19:19] <MDC2> mac_v, but please no more f*g brown/orange/bla.. ;-)
[19:20] <thorwil> yeah, more purple and lime, please!!
[19:20] <mac_v> lmao... +1 for brevity
[19:21] <MDC2> "Iteration 1" is the best of the iterations.. i like greenish and blueish :)
[19:22] <MDC2> but definitly not "Iteration 2) - its awful ;)