[00:00] <UltimaKR> still searching...the 7800 GT seems very nice, but unless you buy used i dont think you can beat $150
[00:00] <user82> agsel, delete permanently and use the space for something else?
[00:01] <user82> agsel, that i would do with a live system and gparted
[00:01] <UltimaKR> shaolin77: if you want to go a couple of tiers up for only $49.99, take a look at this one http://www.amazon.com/nVidia-Geforce-512MB-Graphics-S-Video/dp/B006P0RZF2/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1356738957&sr=8-16&keywords=geforce+7800+gt
[00:01] <agsel> user82: the swap was just in the way.  I wanted just to extend my 2GB part
[00:02] <agsel> bekks: thanks, that did it
[00:02] <jak2000> i deleted the data dir: /var/lib/mysql (the content) now do: sudo -i    then apt-get install mysql-server    but again type new password and retype, and then get this message :http://pastebin.com/e2rEzwqw then how to remove cokpletly the previous mysql installation? thanks
[00:02] <SunMoonStar> SunMoonStar: test
[00:03] <shaolin77> I think it can go a bit higher...I want to avoid any of the 8xxx series and lower
[00:04] <shaolin77> lets narrow it some more...no less that 1GB
[00:04] <UltimaKR> shaolin77: that one had 512MB of dedicated RAM, which is nice...define lower though because for example 6200 is better than the 8000
[00:05] <user82> does nvidia still support older cards like the 8xxx series?
[00:06] <blackshirt> user82, i think opensource driver version has a great support for 8xx series
[00:07] <shaolin77> according the new drivers nvidia is working for Ubuntu/linux they suggest 8xxx and up
[00:08] <Dave2> cd hexchsrfeg
[00:08] <Dave2> ./hex
[00:08] <shaolin77> now that Steam Linux is out I wouldnt mind using that but the current card 7300 LE doesnt seem to be supported with the 310 experimental drivers just recently released
[00:08] <troop> why linux font rendering is so bad?
[00:09] <bman_> Just installed ubuntu and it is running really slow. like a 1 1/2 sec lag from clicking the mouse and it regiatering
[00:10] <troop> bman_ remove amazon lens
[00:10] <mwmnj> Any nginx buffs around?
[00:10] <mwmnj> I am having trouble getting a zend site up: http://dpaste.com/854998/plain/
[00:10] <moon`> how do I uninstall google earth?  sudo apt-get purge google-earth does not work
[00:10] <dr_willis> moon`:  how did you install it?
[00:10] <bman_> Ok will try. Its weird that last time it didnt do it
[00:11] <shaolin77> http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Releases/NVIDIA-Delivers-Massive-Performance-Boost-to-Linux-Gaming-8ac.aspx
[00:11] <moon`>  dr_willis: wget http://dl.google.com/dl/earth/client/current/google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb
[00:11] <moon`> dr_willis: sudo dpkg -i google-earth*
[00:12] <dr_willis> moon`:  and apt-get remove gives any error>
[00:12] <dr_willis> moon`:  and apt-get remove gives any error messages?
[00:12] <moon`> dr_willis: that gave me an error so then I used sudo apt-get install -f
[00:12] <shaolin77> newegg doesnt have a filter for powersupply requirements :(
[00:12] <moon`> unable to locate package google-earth
[00:13] <moon`> E: Unable to locate package google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb'
[00:13] <dr_willis> moon`:  use the proper package name. NOT the file name.
[00:13] <dr_willis>  google-earth-stable  seems tobe the package name. i think
[00:13] <shaolin77> If I'm reading the chart from Toms Hardware right the  Nvidia 450 is a significant jump any thoughts on this?
[00:13] <moon`> dr_willis: thank you
[00:13] <Cavisty> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-dnb-j-anderson
[00:13] <dr_willis> Preparing to replace google-earth-stable <IP_ADDRESS>13-r0 (using google-earth-stable_current_i386.deb) ...
[00:13] <dr_willis> Unpacking replacement google-earth-stable ...
[00:14] <dr_willis> that said the package name. ;) i think... checking now
[00:14] <moon`> no google-earth-stable was the package name. Thank you sir
[00:14] <dr_willis> Package 'google-earth-stable' is not installed, so not removed. Did you mean 'google-earth-stable:i386'?
[00:14] <dr_willis> On 64bit i had to use the fancyer name. ;P
[00:15] <dr_willis> moon`:  apt-get supports TAB completion also i belive. :) at least it does in some cases
[00:15] <dr_willis> $ sudo apt-get remove google-
[00:15] <dr_willis> then hit <TAB> google-chrome-stable  google-earth-stable   google-talkplugin
[00:16] <moon`> dr_willis: awesome, thank you
[00:18] <crichar32> hi guys i was wondering if anyone has installed 12.10 on a new mac mini? i am having an issue where the install goes through fine but when i reboot all i get is a gray folder with a question mark
[00:19] <troop> be honest, which is good and natural? http://s7.postimage.org/mor4s85rf/which.png
[00:20] <ad_da> hi, how can I see I my kernel support filesystem capabilities ?
[00:21] <dr_willis> ad_da:  used to be a /proc/fs/  or som,e other special file that showed them
[00:21] <Tex_Nick> ad_da : please elaborate
[00:24] <dr_willis> Hmm. used to be some system file that showed what filesystems were compiled into the kernel.. ages ago
[00:26] <dr_willis> the dir  /lib/modules/3.5.0-18-generic/kernel/fs/  shows filesystem modules.
[00:26] <ad_da> dr_willis: um I don't see anything relevant :p
[00:26] <salih1453> http://dersaadetul-salih.blogspot.ru/
[00:26] <ad_da> Tex_Nick: I don't understand you
[00:26] <dr_willis> ad_da:  we have no idea what you are really talking about..
[00:27] <Jordan_U> salih1453: Please don't spam links to your blog on this channel.
[00:29] <knaught> i used a command some time ago and am trying to look it up. i tried arrow up but its been awhile and im sure its burried deepc is there a searchable file with command line history?
[00:30] <yeats> knaught: Ctrl-R searches, as does 'history', but the file is ~/.bash_history (which varies per virtual terminal)
[00:31] <Tex_Nick> ad_da : your question seemed to me to be a bit ambigous ... could you please expand it a bit :)
[00:32] <ad_da> Tex_Nick: maybe is the engilsh languaje sorry. I'm reading about filesystem capabilities. I just want to know if my filesystem support capabilities
[00:32] <knaught> yeats: awesome, thanks
[00:32] <yeats> ad_da: define "filesystem support capabilities"
[00:32] <haylo> does ubuntu have intel drivers for integrated graphics cards yet?
[00:33] <bekks> haylo: Yes.
[00:33] <haylo> this 60fps business is bogus   :P
[00:33] <Tex_Nick> ad_da ... this link will explain a bit about filesystems ... http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/filesystems.5.html
[00:33] <haylo> haylo: like with jockey ?
[00:33] <haylo> what sort of frame rate can it pull? they didnt have it a year ago
[00:33] <ad_da> Tex_Nick: thank you so much :)
[00:33] <ad_da> I was reading this one http://linux.die.net/man/7/capabilities
[00:34] <haylo> bekks: *
[00:34] <haylo> bekks: so it is new?
[00:34] <Zeiva> haylo: What card do you have? What CPU or motherboard chipset?
[00:34] <bekks> haylo: You dont need > 24 FPS, since your eye cant resolve the difference on higher rates, biologically. :)
[00:34] <bekks> haylo: It is not new.
[00:34] <Zeiva> bekks: Not true
[00:34] <haylo> bekks: im a gamer, i can see like 10,000 fps
[00:34] <haylo> no kidding
[00:34] <haylo> everyone has is different
[00:34] <Tex_Nick> ad_da ... if that is not what you are after. please ask again :)
[00:34] <bekks> Yes, for sure. 1 Million dollar dude.
[00:35] <causative> is there a simple way to determine what keystrokes are being sent over VNC?
[00:35] <causative> Ctrl-x is not working (for emacs) and I'm trying to diagnose the problem
[00:35] <haylo> bekks: seriously. a violinist hears music much differently than a normal person. likewise a gamer can percieve subtle differences in performance
[00:35] <haylo> the fps is a reflection of the efficiency of the enitre computer
[00:36] <bekks> haylo: Even a gamer cant break the rules of biology and physics.
[00:36] <ad_da> Tex_Nick: I found what I was looking for. Thank you :)
[00:36] <haylo> bekks: you need to look at some computers running different frame rates
[00:36] <Zeiva> You dont need to be a gamer to see the differance between 24FPS and higher. Thats one of those old dumb myths thats been disproven for decades
[00:36] <Zeiva> The eye does not see in FPS, geez
[00:37] <Ben64> bekks: dude, you can definitely see over 24fps, I'd say at least 60fps and above might be indistinguishable
[00:37] <Tex_Nick> ad_da : you're welcome
[00:37] <bekks> Ben64: Then provide evidence on that please.
[00:37] <haylo> people dont see in fps's
[00:37] <Flynsarmy> When using mdadm to create a raid array you specify sda1, sdb1 etc. I have a machine with 24 drive bays and only a few drives plugged in. When I plug in more drives, won't sda, sdb etc change? Won't that mess with the array?
[00:37] <haylo> lulz bekks
[00:37] <Zeiva> Ben64: Even more, anyone could see the differance between a 60 and 120Hz monitor
[00:38] <Ben64> bekks: do any sort of research
[00:38] <dr_willis> time to refer to the wikipedia pages.. ;)  and get back OT.
[00:38] <Zeiva> A simple search of the web would prove it in a second
[00:38] <Zeiva> This explains it well: http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_can_humans_see.htm
[00:39] <Zeiva> 24 frames is enough to make a movie appear smooth, but that does not mean we cant see MORE than that
[00:39] <Zeiva> I mean there is a reason why the new Hobbit movie is shot in 48 fps for example
[00:40] <bekks> Yes. Marketing. Earning money. Thats the reason, at first glance. ;) And now off from OT.
[00:40] <Ben64> Zeiva: a 24fps movie only looks smooth because the huge amount of motion blur going on
[00:40] <Zeiva> Ben64: Agreed
[00:40]  * dr_willis has blur even when sitting still..
[00:41] <Zeiva> Ben64: One of the common tricks in consol gaming this day compared to PC gaming is to apply tons of motion blur. Lets them keep the graphics detail higher than the old consol hardware can actually manage by hiding the frame drops in blur :)
[00:41] <causative> is there a simple program I can run that will report to me every keystroke sent to that program?
[00:41] <wikink> i have newly installed 12.10 in HP probook 4510s and my wireless is not shown in iwlist how  to fix
[00:41] <jrib> causative: xev
[00:42] <causative> ah great thanks!
[00:42] <excu> hi all
[00:43] <wikink> hi
[00:43] <linch> Hello~
[00:43] <linch> Hello!
[00:44] <knaught> yeats: ctrl w gets me a search bar but it wont find the text. j can see the text, like cd dir ls and so on
[00:44] <knaught> yeats: in nano
[00:46] <Zeiva> Now for a question of my own: I have a laptop with Xubuntu 12.10 ati HD3600 graphics with the open drivers which does not show any boot screen, its simply black until suddenly the desktop pop up. Is this intended or can I fix the bootscreen?
[00:47] <Muphrid> Zeiva: plymouth is broken in 12.10 for ati cards
[00:48] <Flynsarmy> are you able to create a raid array with mdadm by uuid rather than /dev/sdx?
[00:48] <Muphrid> i think rollbacking xorg is a solution
[00:48] <Zeiva> Muphrid: Ahhh! Thanks a bunch, saves me the trouble of trying to fix that. I guess it'll eventually get fixed, either in a patch or with the next major release
[00:48] <Zeiva> Muphrid: Its a small issue, just that it would be nice to have a bootscreen since the laptop will be used by a computer novice. Could be useful if they had an idication that stuff was actually loading
[00:49] <wikink> wireless prob in HP probook sometimes was not working properly in 12.04 but with 12.10 wireless is not shown in Network can any one help
[00:50] <dr_willis> I just remove pymouth as a solution to plymouth issues..
[00:50] <dr_willis> or use the failsafe text theme for pymounth
[00:51] <Muphrid> Zeiva: you can take a read at this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal.html
[00:53] <Muphrid> you dont need to isntall fglrx but an upgrade from that ppa would theoretically solve the plymouth corruption
[00:53] <Zeiva> Muphrid: I'd rather keep it stock and on the open source drivers to ensure it has a stable easy upgrade path. Messing with xorg and such seems like a recipie for disaster when the next major rev hits and the inteded owner clicks "yes please!" :)
[00:53] <OerHeks> be carefull with PPA's , it is not supported here.
[00:54] <Muphrid> as you wish
[00:54] <Zeiva> besides the most demanding thing they'll be doing is playing the card games and browsing the web. I doubt the real drivers would help much sadly
[00:59] <knaught> nm, i just grep it
[00:59] <knaught> thakks
[01:01] <xxiao> do I need do 'apt-get remove pkg1' before  I runn 'checkinstall"?
[01:03] <mana9000> what irc server is easy to setup
[01:04] <OerHeks> any irc server is easy to setup, but a secure irc server is hard to maintain.
[01:04] <mana9000> tobias_r33per: what irc server is easy to setup on lan
[01:05] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrcServer
[01:05] <mana9000> OerHeks: Thanks, any particular you would suggest I want it for LAN in my college
[01:06] <OerHeks> mana9000, see that url, ircd-hybrid
[01:07] <mana9000> OerHeks: thanks
[01:07] <Hawkerz> OerHeks, that guide is massively outdated...
[01:07] <Hawkerz> it instructs the installation of epona for services
[01:08] <Hawkerz> epona has been rereleased as anope in like 2006...
[01:08] <OerHeks> Hawkerz, do you hava a better suggestion ?
[01:08] <Hawkerz> well don't give people bad advice in the first place, better to give none at all
[01:09] <Hawkerz> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/irc-server.html <- is the official ubuntu guide
[01:09] <Hawkerz> you should probably follow that if it's your first time
[01:10] <mana9000> Hawkerz: thanks
[01:11] <Hawkerz> i like unreal myself but that's just out of habit by now
[01:12] <mana9000> Hawkerz: can I you use one computer as server on LAN so that others can chat on that
[01:13] <Hawkerz> sure
[01:13] <ConGiun> help me guys :(
[01:14] <wavekidsjp> Can I use ubuntu as server instead of ubuntu ?
[01:14] <B1ue5ky> ConGiun, say man :D
[01:14] <B1ue5ky> wavekidsjp, yes
[01:14] <Hawkerz> you understood what he was asking?
[01:14] <ConGiun> i want karaoke
[01:14] <wavekidsjp> Thank you.
[01:14] <wavekidsjp> Karaoke ?
[01:14] <B1ue5ky> Hawkerz, no o_o
[01:15] <ConGiun> i installed paman
[01:15] <B1ue5ky> wavekidsjp, Ubuntu instead Ubuntu?
[01:15] <B1ue5ky> lol
[01:15] <ConGiun> after that type pacat -r --latency-msec=1 -d  alsa_input.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo | pacat -p --latency-msec=1 -d  alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo
[01:15] <dbrom> hello all
[01:15] <usr13> wavekidsjp: Yes
[01:15] <B1ue5ky> dbrom, hello
[01:15] <dbrom> I am the one with the monitor issue
[01:15] <wavekidsjp> Yes. I like Ubuntu rather than Server.
[01:16] <Hawkerz> ConGiun, that question is pretty specialized... I doubt anyone here knows your problem wit hthat specific piece of software
[01:16] <usr13> BluesKaj: I think he meant server instead of desktop.
[01:16] <B1ue5ky> wavekidsjp, Yes u can, any Linux can be a server
[01:16] <Hawkerz> as it is not a part of ubuntu...
[01:16] <Hawkerz> dbrom: i'm not sure if anyone is suppoed to know you cause of your monitor issue but you'll need to share more details
[01:16] <B1ue5ky> humm I see
[01:16] <dbrom> whats that Hawkerz
[01:16] <wavekidsjp> Thank. I will try.
[01:17] <Tex_Nick> dbrom : i remember your past posts, however things have changed since then ... you might need to start all over again ;)
[01:17] <ConGiun> I can not listen to music just to hear voice
[01:17] <ConGiun> =.=
[01:18] <dbrom> here is the issue I have a Nvidia 580 Ti which supports four monitors but when I have them hooked up only two work and the two are just clonning each other
[01:18] <Muphrid> dbrom: do they show up in system settings -> monitors?
[01:19] <dbrom> and when I try to Enable Xinerama it fails... the two show up only and only at 8 by 6
[01:19] <rodayo> I want to create a partition to install win 8 along side ubuntu. what kind of partition does it need to be, I know it has to be ntfs but are there any other special options that are required?
[01:20] <dbrom> rodayo: No that all you need
[01:20] <usr13> rodayo: Probably best to just leave as unpartitioned "free space"
[01:21] <dbrom> or use Virtual Box
[01:22] <rodayo> Cool, now there's probably something i need to do with grub to get that menu option on start up right?
[01:23] <dbrom> There should be but the thing is that Win8 will try to take over from Grub
[01:23] <dbrom> im just thinking its Windows so its going to want to take control
[01:25] <dbrom> I cannot save changes when I mode the setting went enabling Xinerama
[01:25] <jak2000> exist a way for uninstall all dependencies, this command: apt-cache rdepends mysql-client    generate the next output: http://pastebin.com/1Nt2kPuL
[01:25] <Tex_Nick> !uefi | rodayo
[01:26] <Tex_Nick> rodayo : just in case you're not familiar with the secure boot issue :)
[01:26] <rodayo> dbrom, yeah sounds like something windows would do =P
[01:27] <Eratosthenes> Hi
[01:27] <B1ue5ky> Eratosthenes, hi
[01:28] <dbrom> Anyone have any ideas about my monitor issue
[01:28] <Alex12> HI!
[01:28] <Alex12> i need help
[01:28] <B1ue5ky> me not =/
[01:28] <Tex_Nick> !ask | Alex12
[01:28] <Alex12> DE E17 i not see cyrillic in MENU!!!!!!!
[01:29] <jak2000> b1tgl0wany advice?
[01:29] <veryhappy> does anybody on here have any experiences with ubuntu 12.04 or later version of ubuntu WITH GPT partition table?
[01:30] <Alex12> Any help please?
[01:30] <Alex12> ubuntu-ops
[01:30] <Alex12> #ubuntu-ops
[01:30] <gvo> Alex12: did you forget the /join?
[01:30] <Tex_Nick> !patience | Alex12
[01:31] <Alex12> u can help?
[01:31] <gvo> alex12 I have no idea what you are asking.
[01:31] <Alex12> XD
[01:32] <Tex_Nick> Alex12 : please explain your question better ;)
[01:32] <Alex12> ok now i good translate it
[01:32] <gvo> I know nothing about cyrillic and DE E17 means nothing.
[01:32] <shaolin77> I think I have narrowed it down to a specific card for this old rig
[01:32] <duarteper> lol
[01:32] <Alex12> i enable russian language in MENU in E17
[01:32] <Alex12> but i not see it
[01:33] <dr_willis> I belive he means he can not get The E17 desktop enviroment to show Russian. :)
[01:33] <Tex_Nick> Alex12 : what language do prefer to speak ... there are other channels for other languages
[01:33] <Alex12> there is an empty strings
[01:33] <dr_willis> I would have to suggest the E17 forums and support pages Alex12 .
[01:33] <dr_willis> is E17 even in the repos?
[01:33] <Tex_Nick> !russian | Alex12
[01:33] <Alex12> all sleep!
[01:33] <Alex12> night
[01:33] <Alex12> 5:33
[01:34] <dr_willis> Guess it is. ;)
[01:34] <gvo> bye
[01:34] <Alex12> morning
[01:34] <Alex12> help please
[01:34] <shaolin77> Nvidia GT440 1GB GDDR5 PCI Express
[01:34] <Alex12> Problem with cyrillic in mean menu
[01:34] <Tex_Nick> Alex12 : not trying to point you away from this channel ... but maybe that will help
[01:34] <dbrom> Alex. If we can help we will ask the problem and do some searching
[01:34] <blami> Alex12: you'd better to ask E17 devs on their channel
[01:34] <dr_willis> Not a lot of Russian E17 users in here. ;)
[01:35] <xangua> Alex12: http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=support&l=en
[01:35] <wikink> howto activate my wireless in 12.10 its not coming up in Network Manager
[01:35] <dbrom> if it has nothing to do with the chennel then cant help
[01:35] <blami> Alex12: they spent ~10 years by putting it together
[01:35] <shaolin77> any of you familar with this card?
[01:35] <dr_willis> wikink:  the chipset may need some extra drivers.
[01:35] <blami> Alex12: they probably know
[01:35] <Alex12> lol
[01:35] <dr_willis> wikink:  looked under the software-sources/addational drivers  tab yet?
[01:36] <Alex12> How me have russian language in menu?
[01:36] <wikink> how can i go ahead
[01:36] <C0il> hi
[01:36] <Alex12> i want
[01:36] <dbrom> Alex12: What language did you sent the system up in
[01:36] <dr_willis> Alex12:  we dont have any magical answers.. no matter how many times you rephrase  the question.
[01:36] <Alex12> #e
[01:37] <dr_willis> wikink:  software-properties-gtk  -> addaditional drivers  tab. Might show it needs extra stuff
[01:37] <Alex12> Me russian
[01:37] <yalu> you Jane
[01:37] <dbrom> but the menus are in English
[01:37] <wikink> ok its not showing anything
[01:37] <dr_willis> Alex12:  yes.. You are a russian user, using E17 and cant get Cryllic Fonts working in the menus..... That may be worth checking out on the E17 forums.
[01:37] <dbrom> yalu... good come back
[01:38] <jak2000> dbrom any advice for me? :)
[01:38] <dr_willis> E17 - i find is the sort of thing i try out every so often.. then realize i hate it. ;)
[01:38] <Alex12> hmm i think then need fix xorg.conf?
[01:38] <dr_willis> Alex12:  i dont see how the xorg.conf figures into the problem.
[01:38] <Alex12> and write patches to
[01:39] <B1ue5ky> lol
[01:39] <My_Jone> How to use fnfxd，it cant save rightness,how can i do?
[01:40] <spacecase> I need to report a bug that affects more than one distro of Linux and more than one DE, how should I do that?
[01:40] <gvo> spacecase what is unique?
[01:40] <gvo> Or common to both problems?
[01:41] <dr_willis>  E17 is localized in 20 languages, including latin languages like English and French, cyrillic languages like Russian and Bulgarian and even Korean, Chinese, and Japanese. Note that you can change the language on the fly without restarting E or your X server.
[01:41] <dr_willis> looks like you need to find the settings in E. and if those fail, ask in the #E channel
[01:42] <dr_willis> spacecase:  each disrto normally keeps its own bug tracker ssytem.
[01:42] <spacecase> not sure, it happens in Ubuntu, fedora, and mint.  Gnome and KDE.  Kernel 3.5 and 3.6.
[01:42] <wikink> no luck its not showing any additional drivers requirement
[01:42] <gvo> spacecase what's the problem?
[01:42] <dr_willis> wikink:  whats the chipset of your wifi card? does ifconfig show it at all>
[01:42] <dbrom> dr_wills. I have the driver from the vid card that i need to run but when I do it tells me that im in xserver. how do i kill shutdown xserver
[01:42] <spacecase> I know of Ubuntu's bug tracker, but I feel like it will just get labeled upstream bug
[01:42] <Alex12> Help please?
[01:42] <dr_willis> dbrom:  what are you trying to install exactly?
[01:42] <dr_willis> Alex12: looks like you need to find the settings in E. and if those fail, ask in the #E channel
[01:43] <wikink> no wifi it says
[01:43] <dbrom> Nvidia-Linuz.run
[01:43] <dr_willis> !wireless  Id start here | wikink
[01:43] <wikink> its a HP probook 4510s
[01:43] <jak2000> exist a way for uninstall all dependencies, this command: apt-cache rdepends mysql-client    generate the next output: http://pastebin.com/1Nt2kPuL
[01:43] <Tex_Nick> Alex12 ... see if this helps ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcVeJWwqh7U
[01:43] <dr_willis> dbrom:  why are you not using the drivers in the default repos?
[01:43] <spacecase> on my hardware (macbook pro 8,2 and macbook pro 2,1) the battery meter will randomly drop to a low, inaccurate charge.  upower reports incorrect as well, acpitool reports accurate
[01:43] <dr_willis> !wireless
[01:43] <dbrom> i have they arnt working
[01:43] <jrib> jak2000: what are you trying to accomplish?
[01:44] <dr_willis> dbrom:  its very likely the .run drivers will not work either.
[01:44] <spacecase> I've seen bug reports of the issue that happens on non-mac hardware
[01:44] <dr_willis> dbrom:  whats  your exact video chipset?
[01:44] <Flynsarmy> how can i get my devices mounting under a persistant name? currently when i plug drives in they pick /dev/sd? based on the order they're plugged in
[01:44] <Alex12> i think i need write patchs in conf or install microsoft fonts
[01:44] <Alex12> yes?
[01:44] <Flynsarmy> i think i'm supposed to use udev rules but couldn't find a useful tutorial. only a hugeass manual
[01:44] <dbrom> how would I find this
[01:44] <jrib> Flynsarmy: those aren't mount points.  If you give your partitions labels, they will mount under /media/LABEL though
[01:44] <jak2000> jrib uninstall percona and mariadb
[01:44] <gvo> spacecase: I'd file a bug with the kernel folks and they will probably give you info on the correct place, if that's not it.
[01:44] <jak2000> how to?
[01:45] <jrib> jak2000: how did you install them?
[01:45] <dr_willis> Flynsarmy:   you can mount on the same MOUNTPOINT reguardless of the Device /dev/DEVICE.
[01:45] <spacecase> thaks gvo
[01:45] <jrib> !label | Flynsarmy
[01:45] <dr_willis> Flynsarmy:  if the filesystem has a proper label. it should mount to /media/labelname
[01:45] <Flynsarmy> jrib: dr_willis: i'm trying to keep them on the same /dev because i'm trying to set up raid5
[01:45] <dr_willis> external USB's in Raid? Thats... scary
[01:45] <jak2000> i am on a server with products installed.... need remove the pboth products,
[01:45] <jrib> !raid | Flynsarmy
[01:45] <jak2000> not know how was installed...
[01:45] <dbrom> double that dr_wills
[01:46] <Flynsarmy> dr_willis: nah i have 24 drive bays. when i plug drives in it changes the /dev of all the ones after it which i would assume would break the array if the array needs a specific /dev/sd?
[01:46] <dr_willis> dbrom:  lspci and see what your video card is.
[01:46] <jrib> Flynsarmy: people don't really on consistent /dev/sd* naming.  Instead people use UUID.  How that relates to raid, well see ubottu I suppose
[01:46] <B1ue5ky> =]
[01:46] <jrib> s/really/rely
[01:46] <dr_willis> I dont even touch raid. ;) to many hassles
[01:46] <jrib> !who | jak2000
[01:46] <dbrom> only having one monitor is bloody pissing me off
[01:47] <jrib> jak2000: were they installed through APT?
[01:47] <dr_willis> dbrom:  you can stop the X server with 'sudo service lightdm stop'
[01:47] <Flynsarmy> jrib: ya i was asking earlier today on how to specify uuid instead of /dev with mdadm and got no responses. i dont know if that's a good idea anyway bceause a replacement drive would have a diff uuid?
[01:47] <jak2000> jrib yes with apt i think
[01:47] <dr_willis> dbrom:  last i looked I Thiought there were experimental/post release nvidia drivers in the repos that were the same as the latest on nvidias site
[01:47] <wikink> only ethernet Marvell is shown with lspci
[01:47] <spacecase> gvo, what should I file that under, ACPI or power management?
[01:47] <jrib> Flynsarmy: I'm not familiar with raid, but the docs ubottu gave you should clarify.  Have you checked?
[01:48] <dr_willis> wikink:  this is a internal? or external wifi card?
[01:48] <Flynsarmy> jrib: ive been trying to read docs all morning but there's so much there
[01:48] <jrib> !apt | jak2000
[01:48] <gvo> spacecase: Either, they will move it if it's not appropriate.
[01:48] <wikink> its built-in card
[01:48] <jrib> jak2000: then use "apt-get remove" to remove them
[01:48] <chaotixx> hey
[01:48] <dr_willis> wikink:  does lspci show it at all?
[01:48] <dbrom> im trying the 310.19 off the site and the latest on the additional drivers link
[01:48] <wikink> no
[01:49] <dr_willis> wikink:  could be its so new its totally unsupported. or the switch is OFF ;) if its in a laptop
[01:49] <jak2000> jrib yes i used before apt-get, with this command: apt-cache rdepends mysql-client    know wich packaged need to be removed right?   (the list is large large) not exist a way more direct?
[01:49] <bradlee> h
[01:49] <chaotixx> when making a persistant live usb using usb startup disk creator in ubuntu, is there any reason why i would not want to slide the bar to the maximum amount stored in reserve extra space?
[01:50] <gvo> wikink: dr_willis  if lspci doesn't find it, willl linux be able to do anything with it?
[01:50] <jrib> jak2000: you said you wanted to remove percona and mariadb, so why not remove those?
[01:50] <dr_willis> chaotixx:  if you want some space on the usb for using on a windows box.
[01:50] <dbrom> here is the info
[01:50] <dr_willis> gvo:  i dont see how it could.. ;)
[01:50] <dbrom> 2:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 580] (rev a1)
[01:50] <dbrom> 02:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
[01:50] <dbrom> 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti] (rev a1)
[01:50] <dbrom> 04:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF114 HDMI Audio Controller (rev a1)
[01:50] <FloodBot1> dbrom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:50] <jrib> Flynsarmy: you're using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto?
[01:50] <Alex12> bb than :(
[01:50] <wikink> the rfkill list all says hp-wifi Wireless LAN Soft blocked : no       Hard blocked: no
[01:50] <gvo> dr_willis: Agreed
[01:50] <dr_willis> dbrom:  looks like you have 2 video cards. a 580 and a 560 ti
[01:51] <chaotixx> dr_willis: the reserved space will be the size of my filesystem right?
[01:51] <dbrom> yes
[01:51] <chaotixx> on the live usb
[01:51] <dr_willis> chaotixx:  yes the space the user can use,
[01:51] <Flynsarmy> jrib: reading through that page atm. i have a fakeraid card but want to go with softwareraid instead bceause if the card dies i'm SOL
[01:51] <chaotixx> ok
[01:51] <chaotixx> thanbkjs
[01:51] <chaotixx> thanks as usual, doc
[01:52] <chaotixx> we ought to get one of those feedback pages like the\y have for the fedora channel
[01:52] <jrib> Flynsarmy: ok.
[01:52] <jak2000> jrib yes i want remove percona and mariadb (the depndencies if you see, in a 90% are of percona and or mariadb) .... :(
[01:52] <jrib> Flynsarmy: I guess https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID is more appropriate then
[01:52] <Tex_Nick> shaolin77 : i missed your PM earlier, sorry ... have posted to the PM
[01:52] <jrib> jak2000: so start by removing mariadb and percona packages.  Have you done that?
[01:52] <Sensei_Jer> Hello I have a question about one software - bibletime
[01:53] <jak2000> jrib yes i start but the list is large, not exist other way more direct?
[01:53] <Sensei_Jer> the question is - will USA persecute if I download from the bookshelf manager
[01:53] <jrib> jak2000: it's two packages.  Not sure what you mean.
[01:53] <Flynsarmy> jrib: these seem to assume you aren't plugging/unplugging disks though so they can safely use given /dev/sd? paths which I can't do
[01:53] <Sensei_Jer> I got the warning saying dont risk detection so don't use remote sources
[01:54] <wikink> dr_willis: it was woking previously with 12.04 but now in 12.10 i could not see the wireless at all, shall i pastebin the lspci
[01:54] <dr_willis> wikink:  good idea. but i really dont know much about wureless truble shooting. If it worked in 12.04  did you UPGRADE to 12.10? or is this a clean install.
[01:55] <gvo> Sensei_Jer: I'm not any authority but the US probably doesn't really card.
[01:55] <gvo> care.
[01:55] <dr_willis> Sensei_Jer:  i belive no one in here has a clue what you are going on about.
[01:55] <Sensei_Jer> yeah I thought as well gvo
[01:55] <Sensei_Jer> it's nothing major really
[01:55] <gvo> The US isn't in the business of worrying about individuals.
[01:55] <wikink> actually with a DVD live also wireless didnot work and i have done clean install and trying to fix it
[01:56] <dr_willis> wikink:  could be a bug with the newer kernel and that specific card or driver..  Ive also had cards iver had to go to windows.. turn ON and leave them on. for them to work in linux.
[01:57] <gvo> Sensei_Jer: If it's a classified government project, look out.  Otherwise, ho hum.
[01:57] <wikink> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474557/
[01:57] <OerHeks> Sensei_Jer, there is a PPA for bibletime/sword > https://launchpad.net/~pkgcrosswire/+archive/ppa
[01:57] <jrib> Flynsarmy: I don't know enough to advise you.  But feel free to repeat the question here. There's usually someone around with some raid experience.  You might also try #ubuntu-server if no one is around here at the moment
[01:57] <Flynsarmy> jrib: ok, thanks
[01:57] <Sensei_Jer> tyvm OerHeks and others
[01:58] <dbrom> dr_wills: so is there something i can do
[01:58] <wikink> the wifi hardware switch is showing up On and Off properly but nothing is happening
[01:58] <dr_willis> dbrom:  askubuntu.com has numerous posts on  quad monitor setups with nvidia systems..   Not sure which ones apply to your system. It could be the fact yu have 2 differnt cards  are goofing things up
[01:58] <wikink> i have also pasted the lspci in the above link
[01:59] <dbrom> dr_wills: ill try it with one card...
[02:01] <gvo> wikink: the  88E8072 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller  is a hardwired controller, right?
[02:02] <wikink> yes
[02:02] <gvo> wikink: For some reason the system doesnt' even know there is another network controller.
[02:04] <wikink> its showing only wired network is shown and wireless network connect is not coming up
[02:05] <gvo> wikink is it a USB device?
[02:05] <wikink> do i need to manually the kernel module?
[02:05] <wikink> no its built in mini pci
[02:06] <gvo> And this works in WInders?
[02:06] <wikink> many Hp probook users facing the same prob but no proper guide
[02:06] <wikink> with wireless
[02:06] <jrib> Flynsarmy: https://raid.wiki.kernel.org seems like a nice source of info as well
[02:06] <gvo> Just for completness try lsusb
[02:10] <jimmy> Samsung N150 netbook running 12.04. Brightness is stuck on lowest setting. Fn + up/down arrow  changes screen brightness graphic, but not brightness.
[02:12] <JAIME> i have just installed mint 14 kde, but i cant get wireless card installed
[02:12] <jak2000> jrib: percona was installed: http://www.percona.com/doc/percona-server/5.5/installation/apt_repo.html   how to uninstall? apt-get remove percona-server-5.5      ?
[02:12] <JAIME> how do i check what card it is and compatibility
[02:12] <bazhang> JAIME, get mint support then
[02:12] <gvo> JAIME: lspci | grep net
[02:12] <jrib> jak2000: yes, if that's the package you want to remove
[02:12] <bazhang> !mintsupport | JAIME
[02:13] <WeThePeople> how would i copy my ubuntu with all my apt on here and have some one else be able to use it?
[02:13] <WeThePeople> apts*
[02:13] <WeThePeople> apps*
[02:13] <bazhang> WeThePeople, aptoncd
[02:13] <bazhang> !aptoncd | WeThePeople
[02:14] <WeThePeople> ok thankyou
[02:14] <jak2000> mmm not remove
[02:14] <jak2000> continue dependencies here
[02:14] <wikink> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474587/   the  wireless not working
[02:15] <jrib> jak2000: you have to be more specific.
[02:15] <jak2000> jrib the percona files continue in the system :(
[02:15] <jak2000> jrib i want remove all percona files and systems :)
[02:15] <WeThePeople> bazhang, what about being able to keep the customizations as well?
[02:16] <bazhang> WeThePeople, sounds like you want a clone
[02:16] <WeThePeople> yes
[02:16] <WeThePeople> maybe not
[02:16] <WeThePeople> lol
[02:17] <jrib> jak2000: you can find what package is responsible for a file with "dpkg -S /path/to/file".  Then you should use "apt-get purge PACKAGE" (not apt-get remove)
[02:17] <jak2000> ok
[02:19] <cab> Anyone here using pidgin with plugins?
[02:19] <shaolin77> OK people I need a collective thought to be processed.  Who is good with Hardware/upgrades?
[02:20] <jimmy> clear
[02:20] <jimmy> lol, whoops
[02:21] <bazhang> shaolin77, the people in ##hardware
[02:22] <bazhang> cab, whats the actual question
[02:22] <Muphrid> i use pidgin but not many plugins
[02:22] <gvo> I used to raise pigeons.
[02:22] <bazhang> cab, you might also be interested to know of the channel #pidgin
[02:22] <cab> no it's ok just manage to make it work
[02:23] <shaolin77> thanks bazhang I will try that
[02:23] <wikink> how to check my wifi chipset; its not shown in lspci
[02:23] <cab> any lighter irc client than pidgin? (that's just the one by default one my system)
[02:23] <wikink> lsusb also no luck
[02:24] <Hawkerz> cab: lighter?
[02:24] <cab> but my seems intensive
[02:24] <Hawkerz> i use xchat, and have done for years
[02:24] <Hawkerz> if you can manage command line irc, irssi is the way to go
[02:25] <cab> I'm just using LXterminal (lubuntu)
[02:25] <cab> not sure it integrates with
[02:25] <gvo> wikink: take a very close look at your bios and see if there are any settings for the wireless card there, to enable/disable it.
[02:26] <usr13> cab: irssi
[02:26] <scottj> my laptop keyboard stops responding periodically until reboot, external keyboards keep working, I don't see anything in syslog or Xorg log, any ideas?
[02:26] <cab> ok
[02:26] <usr13> scottj: hardware issue
[02:26] <scottj> doesn't do it under windows, I don't think it's hardware
[02:26] <gvo> wikink: If lspci can't see it, Linux will not be able to use it so something is preventing it's being seen by linux.  That implies either a hardware switch or bios.
[02:27] <wikink> my wireless hardware switch is active and bios also active,
[02:27] <cab>  Hawkerz: ok will try irrsi and xhat else
[02:27] <Hawkerz> how many irc clients do you need?
[02:27] <Hawkerz> nothing is lighter than irssi
[02:27] <cab> 1 lol
[02:27] <wikink> when i try On and Off, the blue led is responding too
[02:27] <gvo> wikink: Then you probably can't use it with whatever version of Linux you are trying to use.  Try a different distro.
[02:27] <cab> and one big requirement is to hide out/in messages
[02:27] <cab> that pollutes
[02:28] <usr13> cab: http://www.irssi.org/documentation
[02:28] <cab> it's working on pidgin right now
[02:28] <Hawkerz> i dont know what 'hide out in messages' means
[02:28] <wikink> its Ubuntu 12.10 and it was working in 12.04
[02:28] <dbrom> dr_wills: what was that site you said there were posts about my issue
[02:28] <cab> join/parts
[02:28] <cab> messafes
[02:29] <Hawkerz> cab: so you want a command line irc client right?
[02:29] <cab> yep  if works with the raw LXTerminal
[02:29] <Hawkerz> if that is what you are asking for, use irssi with screen/tmux
[02:29] <Hawkerz> that is, screen or tmux
[02:29] <gvo> wikink: then boot 12.04 and make sure it's still working.  Run lspci and find out wall you can about the card and search the web for info.
[02:29] <Hawkerz> it does everything you are asking
[02:29] <bazhang> cab most IRC clients can do that without issue
[02:29] <gvo> find out all
[02:30] <cab> ok
[02:30] <Hawkerz> there are some nice plugins to make it look pretty too
[02:30] <Zaibach333> I'm running into issues installing my amd graphics driver, my laptop is stuck in terminal.  I've been at it all day and can't seem to get it right...
[02:30] <Hawkerz> i've had a lot of fun with irssi in the past
[02:30] <Malsasa> Hello, can somebody give me replacement for Netbeans? I want one that can make GUI easily. I think it is heavy on my system.
[02:31] <diverdude> i am trying to do: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse but then I get an error saying:    Package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:31] <diverdude> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:31] <diverdude> is only available from another source
[02:31] <diverdude> E: Package 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse' has no installation candidate      How can i fix this?   My /etc/apt/sources.list looks like this:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474608/
[02:31] <Hawkerz> for java? eclipse
[02:31] <usr13> Zaibach333: lspci | pastebinit #Send resulting URL, we will see what hardware you have.
[02:31] <bazhang> diverdude, use tab complete for that package
[02:31] <usr13> Zaibach333: What hardware driver did you install?
[02:32] <Zaibach333> usr13, I installed amd catalyst 12.10 proprietary linux x86 display driver from their website
[02:32] <gvo> Malsasa: All IDEs have a pretty steep learning curve.  Meaning, easily isn't.
[02:32] <cab__> hello from irssi
[02:33] <cab> ok working
[02:33] <Malsasa> gvo: hmmm... so there is no one? Thank you...
[02:33] <usr13> Zaibach333: What does lspci say about your video card?
[02:33] <diverdude> bazhang,  you mean: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly ?
[02:33] <cab__> just waiting for a join/part message to see if they show up on irssi
[02:34] <bazhang> diverdude, why not just install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[02:34] <gvo> Malsasa there are others, but none are "easy".. What do you know?  What IDEs are you familiar with?
[02:34] <usr13> Zaibach333: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[02:34] <Malsasa> gvo: thank you, I am familiar with Netbeans only. Visual Basic-like.
[02:34] <Zaibach333> usr13, there's a big list, alot to type. I'm using lubuntu 12.10 on the laptop
[02:35] <usr13> Zaibach333: lspci | pastebinit #Send resulting URL, we will see what hardware you have.
[02:35] <BlueNeXuS> `ello all
[02:35] <CoreyBR> hello!
[02:35] <CoreyBR> :D
[02:36] <gvo> Malsasa: Eclipse is another popular one.  Since you know Netbeans, you understand there is a learning curve.  Right?
[02:36] <BlueNeXuS> Anyone here using ,or  tired cylon/ceylon version of Ubuntu?
[02:36] <Malsasa> gvo: no, what is learning curve?
[02:37] <gi6son> hello. I got the 12.10 live iso, burned, installed to a usb, rebooted, login screen asked for a password. never asked to submit such so no clue.
[02:37] <Zaibach333> usr13, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474614/
[02:37] <CoreyBR> what is the channel for chitchat about ubuntu and stuff?
[02:37] <dbrom> anyone using more then two monitors on kubuntu
[02:38] <gvo> Malsasa: Learning curve means you have to use it for a while before it becomes easy.  It's the opposite of intuitive.  I'm sure when you first used netbeans it was difficult so understand.
[02:38] <bazhang> CoreyBR, #ubuntu-discuss  /  #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:38] <eang> gi6son: did  you tried using a blank pswd?
[02:38] <usr13> z
[02:38] <gvo> Malsasa: so==to
[02:38] <Muphrid> Malsasa: have you tried Geany?
[02:38] <usr13> Zaibach333: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[02:38] <cab__> Hm just scrolled all
[02:38] <BlueNeXuS> i really like the cylon variant of ubuntu,, but i get tired of the fire sparks and flames every time i click a menu
[02:38] <BlueNeXuS> the rest of the gui special effects is nice
[02:39] <gvo> Muphrid: I think he's only done netbeans
[02:39] <Malsasa> gvo: Yes, yes, you are right. Oooh, so intuitive is opposite from learning curve?
[02:39] <cab__> Hm just scrolled all http://www.irssi.org/documentation/settings and can't find any setting to hide join/part messages
[02:39] <Malsasa> Muphrid: yes, i have. Geany is great.
[02:39] <bazhang> !quietirssi | cab__
[02:39] <gvo> Malsasa: Yes.
[02:39] <wikink> how do i connect from irssi  it says Not connected to server
[02:39] <Malsasa> Muphrid: but geany doesn't have GUI builder. CMIIW.
[02:39] <Zaibach333> usr13, k
[02:39] <diverdude> bazhang, thx
[02:39] <bazhang> BlueNeXuS, what is cylon version of ubuntu
[02:39] <Muphrid> Mm ok
[02:40] <Malsasa> gvo: thank you. You kindly answer newbie like me....
[02:40] <Muphrid> GUI builders are heavy on resources, eclipse is the only other i know of
[02:40] <cab__> hide_server_tags = OFF  ??
[02:40] <bazhang> cab__: To ignore joins, parts, quits in irssi:  /ignore #ubuntu +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS
[02:40] <cab__> ubottu: ok
[02:40] <gvo> Malsasa: Good luck.  Why do you want to leave netbeans if you know it?
[02:41] <usr13> Zaibach333: Just use the OS driver.
[02:41] <BlueNeXuS> it's basically ubuntu.. but with a very luxurious gui.  and full access to the ubuntu app-store type interface, auto updates,, a few extra nicknacks
[02:41] <Flynsarmy> how do you close the 'watch' command? just ctrl+c or is there a proper way?
[02:41] <usr13> wikink: /server irc.freenode.net  #or server of your choosing.
[02:41] <cab__> bazhang: and to define it as default, at startup?
[02:41] <bazhang> BlueNeXuS, link please
[02:41] <Malsasa> gvo: thanks, but I will not leave Netbeans. I just wanna searching for new IDE. Maybe my friends need it. And for me, Netbeans is so heavy.
[02:41] <usr13> Zaibach333: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne522
[02:42] <bazhang> cab__, set it and forget it, should stick
[02:42] <Malsasa> gvo: I found IntelliJ IDEA open sorce version. It is very great. But I just try it a while. Now it saved on my disk ;)
[02:42] <gvo> Malsasa: Eclipse is heavy too.  It is the nature of the beast.
[02:42] <BlueNeXuS> just a sec, I'll get that for yah bazhang
[02:42] <BlueNeXuS> you may want to youtube it too
[02:42] <cab> fine
[02:43] <Malsasa> gvo: :) yes, I have Eclipse too in this machine. But Eclipse is heavy too.
[02:43] <gvo> Malsasa: Yes
[02:43] <gvo> Malsasa: with power comes complexity.
[02:44] <BlueNeXuS> ceylonlinux.com   though when you install it , it spells it cylon instead on the installation screeen
[02:44] <bazhang> BlueNeXuS, yeah, thats not supported here. use alis to find their support channel
[02:44] <Malsasa> gvo: I agree.
[02:44] <bazhang> !alis | BlueNeXuS
[02:44] <Zaibach333> usr13, I just got some humble bundle and was looking to see how they run on ubuntu... is my card not capable of getting an updated driver on 12.10?
[02:45] <MyCah> Hello -- I've tried to run a couple of games and am getting this error X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation). My googling only brought up solutions to people programming in opengl... Any ideas?
[02:45] <Malsasa> gvo: do you have tips for reducing heaviness from Netbeans?
[02:45] <BlueNeXuS> actually wasnt asking for any help.. I just asked if anyone here has tried it
[02:45] <BlueNeXuS> its a variant of ubuntu , so i figured someone had tried it here
[02:45] <usr13> Zaibach333: I dono, see jockey-gtk
[02:45] <nazeer> hi
[02:46] <bazhang> BlueNeXuS, great question for the offtopic channel
[02:46] <BlueNeXuS> but thanks all the same baz
[02:46] <gvo> Malsasa: No, I'm just a casual user, not a power user.
[02:46] <Malsasa> gvo: same with me... :)
[02:46] <Muphrid> Malsasa: you could install it with --no-install-recommends, it installs less software than a full install but not sure if it makes it less heavy on other resources
[02:47] <Zaibach333> usr13, k, thanks
[02:47] <pippobibo2> !addon
[02:47] <Malsasa> Muphrid: oooh, thank you.
[02:49] <ferret_guy> is there an application that allows a server with more than one LAN interface to act as a "router" with DHCP passthrough
[02:49] <Ben64> it'd be easier to get a router
[02:51] <ferret_guy> i know but i have several LAN cards laying around and wanted to try it
[02:53] <zully> ferret_guy: it can be done
[02:53] <enriq> hi. How do I install a 12.04 to a new partition, from my running 10.04? I'd like dual boot. (of course upgrade does not work)
[02:53] <ferret_guy> how would i go about it?
[02:54] <zully> ferret_guy: ip masquerading
[02:55] <dbrom> hello all I have a monitor issue: Nvidia 580 Ti not displaying two monitors and cloning on the other two...
[02:55] <zully> ferret_guy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[02:55] <ferret_guy> Thanks zully!
[02:57] <dbrom> I can see all four down by the Activity manager tho
[02:58] <Pei_> Hello, i'm going to try and install ubuntu for the first time, although I am a seasoned slackware and archlinux user
[02:59] <Pei_> it's just that, the install for archlinux is a joke
[03:00] <bazhang> Pei_, using the live cd? the minimal installer (for Ubuntu)?
[03:01] <Pei_> no downloading uhm ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[03:01] <bazhang> that'd be the live cd
[03:02] <Pei_> i have two exact same laptops, one is windows 7, the other one i am making a linux desktop
[03:02] <enriq> btw can I mount the 12.04 live cd iso from ubuntu 10.04 and install 12.04 to another partition?
[03:04] <dr_willis> enriq:  that may take some doing to install from within 10.04
[03:04] <dr_willis> enriq:  you could set up grub2 to boot the ISO file.
[03:05] <enriq> dr_willis, a grub2 entry in the menu that boots the iso? sounds good
[03:06] <dr_willis> enriq:  i dont recall if 10.04 used grub2 or not. ;)
[03:06] <dr_willis> enriq:  i used to keep a /boot/ partion of about 3gb in size. to keep a few ISO files on. and had grub2 set to boot them. a Ubuntu Desktop for reinstgalling, a gparted, and a few other rescue type isos ;)
[03:07] <enriq> dr_willis, good idea, I have a separate /boot ... 10.04 apparently has grub1
[03:08] <dr_willis> that sort of shoots that idea in the foot. ;) unless you got a Flash drive.. but then you could just put 12.10 on the flash and boot that..
[03:09] <enriq> dr_willis, grub2 is on the repos apparently but not installed... should I...
[03:10] <cab>  irssi is not enabling to scroll >> http://i.imgur.com/wbbfa.png
[03:10] <cab> up/down
[03:11] <CoreyBR> can anyone help with and wifi card issue?
[03:12] <bazhang> what chipset CoreyBR
[03:13] <CoreyBR> bazhang, 01:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[03:13] <bazhang> !atheros
[03:13] <jimmy> Samsung N150 netbook running 12.04. Brightness is stuck on lowest setting. Fn + up/down arrow   changes screen brightness graphic, but not brightness.
[03:13] <bazhang> CoreyBR, please see above
[03:14] <CoreyBR> bazhang, thanks i'll take a look.
[03:14] <cordyceps> How do I tell avconv to rip from my cd?
[03:15] <cab> page up/down works but sucks to not do it by scrolling
[03:15] <iKernel> Hi guys, having trouble transferring files from my computer to my phone using bluetooth, Xubuntu 12.10 x86_64. Seems to pair with the phone succesfully, however the pass key I see on my phone is different from what comes up in the wizard. When I try to send files to the phone, it connects, then gets stuck on 0.00 B/s/s then says Error occurred while sending file (filename). When trying to browse files on the device, it immediately throws t
[03:15] <iKernel> he error "Failed to open "obex://[0C:C6:6A:95:5A:31]/". Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)." I've not tried doing this on Windows, and I don't have a USB cable, even if I did the usb ports in this laptop are broken.
[03:15] <OerHeks> cab i don't use irssi, but if i remember right, simply hit escape, then p to go up or n to go down
[03:16] <CoreyBR> bazhang, the help have the solution for the ubuntu v10 i'm using 12.10
[03:16] <CoreyBR> does it work?
[03:17] <cordyceps> How do I rip a CD using avconv?
[03:17] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man1/avconv.1.html  cordyceps
[03:18] <bazhang> cordyceps, scroll down to see the example and change to suit your needs
[03:18] <cab>  OerHeks: page up/down works.. but I'd prefer a vertical bar
[03:18] <bazhang> cab, then try a different IRC client?
[03:18] <blerp> hey all, I'm having trouble, I've got a cifs share on a windows server with 111 folders in it and when I mount it in ubuntu it only shows alphabetical listings up to 84, and that's it.. is there something I can do to fix this?
[03:21] <zully> blerp: in nautilus or cl?
[03:22] <blerp> cl
[03:22] <diablo69> Hola
[03:22] <zully> whats ur output from mount?
[03:23] <diablo69> Hello
[03:23] <d4rkh4nd> anyone here know how to use kdialog --slider ?
[03:24] <kylescottmcgill> Anyone know of a Good GTK2 chooser
[03:24] <kylescottmcgill> ?
[03:24] <hangdeadman> How do I remove getdeb repositories from ubuntu 12.04? I have been getting error messages when I update for almost a month now
[03:25] <hangdeadman> I can't find them in synaptic...
[03:25] <diablo69> Someone who speaks Spanish?
[03:26] <OerHeks> !es | diablo69
[03:26] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, open softwarecentre and edit softwaresources
[03:27] <diablo69> ah thanks for the help
[03:29] <diablo69> gladiatus someone plays?
[03:29] <kevinlu310> Battery info of my laptop seems wrong on 12.04 lts. How can I fix it?
[03:30] <hangdeadman> OerHeks: thanks!!! any idea what may be causing nautilus to crash when opening my music folder?
[03:30] <cordyceps> bazhang: Can't seem to find it. The cd is on /dev/sr0, but I can't seem to tell avconv.
[03:30] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, can't say why, try this and see the errors: open terminal and type nautilus
[03:31] <diablo69> Anyone know how to install pes?
[03:31] <jason2007> anyone know what happened to playdeb?
[03:32] <OerHeks> jason2007, playdeb servers are down for some weeks now
[03:32] <diablo69> Thank you much help che, are selfish
[03:33] <jason2007> DerHeks, do you know when they will be back up?
[03:33] <dr_willis> never knew how many people used them. :)
[03:33] <dr_willis> diablo69:  we pointed you to an ES channel
[03:33] <dr_willis> !info pes
[03:33] <dr_willis> No idea what 'pes' is
[03:34] <OerHeks> jason2007, i have no info about that, rumors say they are working on crashed servers
[03:35] <diablo69> The PES is a football game
[03:35] <cordyceps> When using avconv to convert rip cd what do I call /dev/sr0? Since it is not mounted.
[03:35] <dr_willis> cordyceps:  you dont mount audio cds
[03:35] <dr_willis> why dont you use some nice front end to rip your audio cds ?
[03:36] <cordyceps> yes, you're right. How do I tell avconv that?
[03:36] <dr_willis> ive never used avconv to rip audio cds. so no idea. Id have to google for example ussage of it.
[03:36] <cordyceps> like a challenge
[03:37] <OerHeks> diablo69, if pes is Pro Evolution Soccer, check the wine database
[03:37] <OerHeks> !wine
[03:38] <dr_willis> Not much of a challange if we tell you then. ;)
[03:39] <diablo69> Thanks OerHkes, never before saw such Chat or whatever.
[03:40] <NabberS> hmm....
[03:41] <hangdeadman> OerHeks: I got the error, it says to ask system administrator to enable user sharing, I'd share it but can't remember how to use pastebin from the terminal...
[03:41] <dr_willis> hangdeadman:  the pastebinit command.
[03:41] <OerHeks> !pastebinit
[03:41] <hangdeadman> OerHeks: share the error message I mean.
[03:41] <NabberS> anyone know what is gpg key ubuntu 12.04 works good
[03:42] <dr_willis> NabberS:  you may want to rephrase that and give a bit more details.
[03:43] <diablo69> No ja idem spať, uvidím kamarátov, ale nehovorí. Len hovoriť o víne a ďalšie
[03:43] <diablo69> Well I go to sleep, I'll see friends, but not speak. Just talk about wine and other
[03:44] <enriq> can I unmount my /boot partition?
[03:45] <veryhappy> hi guys, sorry i was already asking one time before but my connection crashed, i'm sorry.
[03:45] <veryhappy> someone here with experience in installing ubuntu on gpt?
[03:46] <hangdeadman> OerHeks: http://pastebin.com/w9zxFEjD
[03:46] <enriq> when I resize and move a partition with gparted, the contents are copied?
[03:47] <sidney_> backup
[03:47] <dr_willis> enriq:  it should keep data intact yes.. but MAKE bACKUPS
[03:47] <Ben64> enriq: should be, but you should backup
[03:47] <enriq> it's just the /boot partition :)
[03:47] <dr_willis> Power failure during resize = Bad.
[03:47] <enriq> ok ok I make a copy
[03:51] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, seems like a known bug, the bugreport contains the solution too > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-share/+bug/995406 >> sudo usermod -a -G sambashare <your username>
[03:52] <enriq> long live gparted
[03:53] <hangdeadman> OerHeks: I'm still getting the same error message
[03:53] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, did you restart samba after that ? sudo service smbd restart
[03:55] <hangdeadman> OerHeks: I get <smbd: unrecognized service>
[03:55] <enriq> if I have a dual boot ubuntu 10 and ubuntu 12 can they share /boot ?
[03:56] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, strange, did you have samba installed .. if not, i wonder why you get that error message.
[03:57] <hangdeadman>  OerHeks: I don't remember ever installing samba..
[03:57] <veryhappy> enriq: that should be quite possible, just make sure that you have enough space.
[03:57] <enriq> ok veryhappy thx
[04:01] <cub> hey
[04:01] <macs> can anyone suggest a site to get info about setting up a home nfs server???
[04:01] <cub> ever since i installed kde , the login screen always starts up with a kde login instead of the original gnome one
[04:01] <cub> is there any EASY way to change this?
[04:01] <dr_willis> cub:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[04:01] <dr_willis> about as EASY as it gets
[04:02] <cub> what does kdm mean
[04:02] <cub> nvm i got it
[04:02] <chaospsychex> are there certain integrated intel video chipsets that require proprietary drivers/firmware ?
[04:02] <cjae> why is everything mupen64plus so badly broken
[04:03] <veryhappy> chaospsychex: some intel and amd chips i guess
[04:03] <veryhappy> chaospsychex: but that's just a guess
[04:03] <cjae> the percise ppa dont work
[04:03] <cjae> the program barely runs
[04:03] <chaospsychex> my chipset can output hd resolutions but for some reason xrandr is showing only 1024x780 as the highest ?
[04:03] <hangdeadman> Can anyone help me figure out why nautilus crashes when trying to open my music folder in ubuntu 12.04?
[04:03] <Ben64> dr_willis: wouldn't that just keep the kde one?
[04:04] <dr_willis> Ben64: no,,, it Asks what one to use
[04:04] <chaospsychex> when 1280x1024 should be the highest as that is what the monitor supprots
[04:04] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, did you add any PPA like gnome3 ?
[04:04] <veryhappy> chaospsychex: did you install proprietary drivers already? there should be an option within gnome settings
[04:05] <veryhappy> chaospsychex: called "additional drivers"
[04:05] <kelvinella> hi anyone had successfully install itune 10 on playonlinux?
[04:05] <Ben64> hangdeadman: you may have a strange file in there, could you pastebin the output of "ls -la <path to music folder>"
[04:05] <chaospsychex> veryhappy, i'm on the internet via a 3g cell phone. for some reason ubuntu wants to send/receive alot of data in the background. annoying....
[04:06] <chaospsychex> when i open software center, it tells me it's 'waiting for jockey gtk to finish' or something like that
[04:06] <veryhappy> chaospsychex: hold on
[04:06] <Ben64> chaospsychex: you shouldn't need additional drivers for intel
[04:07] <chaospsychex> Ben64, xrandr isn't showing the supported modes of the video chipset nor is it showing the modes the monitor supports
[04:08] <chaospsychex> Ben64, 12.04 btw
[04:08] <Ben64> laptop, right
[04:08] <chaospsychex> Ben64, no, desktop
[04:08] <hangdeadman> OerHeks: not that I know of.
[04:08] <hangdeadman> Ben64: what is the default path to music folder?
[04:09] <Ben64> chaospsychex: could you pastebin the output of "lsmod; lspci"
[04:09] <Ben64> hangdeadman: I assumed you knew where your music folder is
[04:09] <d4rkh4nd> how to chmod a folder and all contence
[04:09] <Ben64> chmod -R
[04:09] <veryhappy> chaospsychex: waiting for jockey gtk to finish -> ps -ax | grep jockey, remember pid -> kill id
[04:09] <veryhappy> *pid
[04:09] <chaospsychex> Ben64, I could but I can't seem to get an irc client to install
[04:09] <Ben64> d4rkh4nd: in the future you could check the manual, like "man chmod"
[04:10] <hangdeadman> Ben64: I tried home/weldon/Music and it tells me there is no such file or directory..
[04:10] <Ben64> chaospsychex: you don't need irc to pastebin
[04:10] <veryhappy> chaospsychex: apt-get install pastebinit
[04:10] <hangdeadman> Ben64: maybe I am typing the path wrong.
[04:10] <bertieb> Anyone have much experience of avconv / ffmpeg? I've tried asking in #libav but only got the sound of chirping crickets there.
[04:10] <OerHeks> hangdeadman, try /home/weldon/Music ? make sure your username is spelled correct with capital letters if used
[04:11] <d4rkh4nd> ty
[04:12] <d4rkh4nd> I tryed that and the contense were not moded
[04:12] <bertieb> (I ask to ask, since if there's no-one that knows a huge amount about avconv/ffmpeg asking would needlessly bog things down)
[04:13] <Ben64> bertieb: asking to ask is silly
[04:14] <bertieb> Ben64: I know, I know; but having asked in the specialist area put me off re-asking
[04:15] <bertieb> Nevertheless. Basically my problem is in creating a time-lapse video from a series of jpegs. avconv is spitting out videos that last for only 10 seconds duration, no matter what -t or rate (-r) I throw at it.
[04:15] <bertieb> eg http://pastebin.com/NNbeMLKR
[04:16] <xentity1x> Hi, I'm trying to install the proprietary drivers for an nvidia quadro k2000m. The graphics card isn't showing up on the additional drivers tab. When I list the drivers in jockey, it says the proprietary driver is enabled but not in use
[04:16] <xentity1x> Can anyone advise?
[04:17] <Ben64> bertieb: you should make sure your switches are in the right positions
[04:18] <Idsi> Hello!
[04:18] <bertieb> Ben64: Cheers, I'll have another look. I've been at this for a while now so I feel I am missing something obvious but it could be slapping me in the face and I'd still miss it.
[04:19] <kelvinella> anyone know where to get help on apple stuffs?
[04:20] <kelvinella> which channel? #apple amd #iphone is like dead in water
[04:20] <dr_willis> bertieb:  i seem to recall  the ffmpeg faq having examples of doing that.. but its been ages since ive last looked at it.
[04:20] <veryhappy> kelvinella: what do you have for an issue with apple?
[04:20] <hangdeadman> where do I enter the pastebinit command into the terminal to paste an output?
[04:20] <kelvinella> veryhappy, wanna sync music but cant do it in ubuntu
[04:20] <veryhappy> command | pastebinit
[04:21] <kelvinella> veryhappy, i can install itune in win7 in virtualbox but somehow cant sync
[04:21] <veryhappy> kelvinella: sync over the internet or to a device?
[04:22] <kelvinella> veryhappy, is there a way to install itune in playonlinux?
[04:22] <bertieb> dr_willis: Yup, I think the documentation / blog posts that talk about it were probably written when you looked at it as they all refer to old ffmpeg versions with subtly varying arguments...
[04:22] <dbrom> hello all
[04:22] <veryhappy> kelvinella: well if you want to use itune i would stick with virtualbox, i just guess you still didn't setup the network connection.
[04:23] <kelvinella> veryhappy, i can copy my mp3 to my phone4 in win7 dual boot partition but cant do it in virtualbox, dont know why
[04:23] <bertieb> In fact, I've done it successfully before (only a couple months ago!) but now ffmpeg is avconv and stuff Doesn't Work(TM) in very specific and strage ways.
[04:23] <xentity1x> Hi, I'm trying to install the proprietary drivers for an nvidia quadro k2000m. The graphics card isn't showing up on the additional drivers tab. When I list the drivers in jockey, it says the proprietary driver is enabled but not in use
[04:23] <xentity1x> Can anyone advise?
[04:23] <hangdeadman> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474750/
[04:23] <kelvinella> veryhappy, what network connection?
[04:23] <dbrom> kelvinella: there is something like itunes for kubuntu but you need to search for it
[04:24] <veryhappy> thank you dbrom for taking over
[04:24] <Ben64> hangdeadman: maybe this directory name? "drwxr-xr-x    2 weldon weldon     4096 Dec  5  2009 �� Void"
[04:24] <dbrom> are we all running kubuntu or are we using something else
[04:24] <dbrom> did i step on a toe
[04:25] <veryhappy> kubuntu
[04:25] <kvothetech> dbrom: songbird and rhythmbox are the closest i know of though mpd is what i use so don't know much abotu either..
[04:25] <kelvinella> dbrom, i am thinking to buy a very cheap 10 yrs old computer just to copy delete mp3 in my iphone :(
[04:25] <hangdeadman> Ben64:  I just used dolphin file manager to try to delete that folder and it says that the folder doesn't exist when trying to delete it
[04:25] <dbrom> look at format junky
[04:25] <dbrom> its a app for kubuntu
[04:26] <dbrom> ive used it and love it
[04:26] <Ben64> hangdeadman: maybe try from terminal
[04:26] <hangdeadman> Ben64: what is the command?
[04:27] <Ben64> rmdir to delete a directory, mv can rename it
[04:27] <dbrom> hooking up four monitors...they show up on the area by the activity manager but i cant use them...any ideas
[04:28] <memand> A quick question, when I press lock screen or Ctrl + Alt + L is it not supposed to go to the screensaver ?
[04:28] <hangdeadman> Ben64: failed to remove `Void': No such file or directory
[04:28] <veryhappy> memand: it should.
[04:28] <dbrom> yes it does memand
[04:29] <kelvinella> dbrom, u have used itunes for kubuntu and successfully copy and delete songs in your phone?
[04:29] <Ben64> hangdeadman: its not just Void, there are some weird characters in there
[04:29] <bertieb> dbrom: Might not help, but I gave up on having an DE detect my monitors properly (I have a mere three) and used xrandr instead
[04:29] <hangdeadman> Ben64: rmdir /home/weldon/Music/�� Void
[04:29] <dbrom> no a app like it
[04:29] <hangdeadman> Ben64: that's what I put in...
[04:30] <kelvinella> dbrom, i am on iOS 4.3 on my iphone 4.  i cant upgrade the iOS otherwise i cant use it with my carrier
[04:30] <dbrom> how do i use xrandr
[04:30] <dr_willis> Ben64:  use single quotes around the whole path perhaps
[04:30] <Ben64> hangdeadman: those probably aren't the right characters either, i think the pastebin changed em
[04:30] <dbrom> ic
[04:30] <Ben64> and yeah, quotes can help
[04:30] <memand> veryhappy, dbrom: Well it doesn't here, I suspect that it is because I purged the gnome screensaver and installed xscreensaver, but I have no idea what file to edit to specify what command to execute when I "Lock screen"
[04:30] <dr_willis> ive had to boot to linux befor. to fix funny charavers on ntfs, that windows wouldent even touch. ;)
[04:31] <kelvinella> does songbird sync with iphone4?
[04:31] <bertieb> dbrom: I'll see if I can find the resource I used, though mostly it was the manpage and seeing the output from running it without args
[04:32] <bertieb> dbrom: Basically I know my monitors arrangement, and max resolutions / refreshes and set them accordingly
[04:32] <dbrom> here is the strange thing they were set to 1920x1080 b4 i added the next two.... now there 800x600 and i cant change that
[04:32] <hangdeadman> Ben64: They are the same characters that are shown in dolphin file manager...
[04:33] <dbrom> my max res is 1920x080
[04:33] <veryhappy> memand: shouldn't you be able to set this up in the settings for your energy control?
[04:33] <bertieb> dbrom: I can't offer a technical comment on that except to say that multi-monitor support has been... up-and-down over the years
[04:34] <dbrom> two works great....
[04:34] <Ben64> hangdeadman: how about "ls -il *Void*"
[04:35] <hangdeadman> Ben64: ls: cannot access *Void*: No such file or directory
[04:35] <Ben64> fine, just "ls -il" then, and find the line for the folder
[04:36] <memand> veryhappy: I don't have an"energy control" panel I have power management and screen brightness/lockscreen but neither of those has anything to do with the screensaver (I'm on 12.04 if that makes the difference)
[04:36] <hangdeadman> Ben64: then what?
[04:37] <Ben64> hangdeadman: paste that one line in here
[04:37] <bertieb> dbrom: I can pastebin the script I use if it's of any help, but with the caeat that I don't know exactly what I'm doing and that there's likely superfluous stuff in there
[04:37] <hangdeadman> Ben64: drwxr-xr-x    2 weldon weldon     4096 Dec  5  2009 \235\235\ Void
[04:37] <dbrom> ok
[04:38] <Ben64> hangdeadman: you sure you did "ls -il"?
[04:38] <bertieb> dbrom: It won't work for your setup (ie fergodssake don't run it!) but it might be illustrative
[04:38] <Ben64> hangdeadman: it should have printed an inode number with it
[04:38] <dbrom> st give me an idea
[04:39] <veryhappy> memand: sorry, that was also what i meant "power management", yea sorry.
[04:39] <hangdeadman> Ben64: I did it and that's all i got
[04:39] <veryhappy> memand: hold on
[04:40] <bertieb> dbrom: http://pastebin.com/x40XEwi0
[04:40] <christttt> hai
[04:40] <veryhappy> you're using kubuntu right?
[04:40] <Ben64> hangdeadman: well the 2nd step won't work without the inode
[04:40] <memand> veryhappy: Well the power menu is just to specify what to do when on battery or wall powered
[04:40] <veryhappy> memand: you're using kuubtu
[04:41] <memand> veryhappy: not as far as i know :P
[04:41] <dbrom> where is the .conf file
[04:41] <veryhappy> memand: then you're using gnome?
[04:41] <memand> veryhappy: well yeah, unity
[04:41] <bertieb> dbrom: which .conf file?
[04:42] <memand> veryhappy: I'm on 12.04
[04:42] <veryhappy> memand: try to disable conky
[04:42] <memand> veryhappy: conky?
[04:43] <veryhappy> if you have it installed
[04:43] <veryhappy> memand: only if you have it installed
[04:43] <dbrom> xrandr
[04:43] <sidney_> Is there anyway to watck a dvd in Ubuntu
[04:43] <sidney_> watch
[04:43] <veryhappy> sidney_: commercial dvds?
[04:43] <dbrom> dragon
[04:43] <memand> veryhappy: I don't
[04:43] <sidney_> yes
[04:43] <OerHeks> !dvd
[04:44] <cjae> can someone tell what is making my logitech mouse extra buttons work out of the box...I am wondering, if I use xbindkeys, if it will mess up the other keys
[04:44] <veryhappy> OerHeks: you could have been nicer and help him a little bit ;)
[04:44] <dbrom> sidney: look at dragon
[04:44] <bertieb> dbrom: xrandr.conf?
[04:45] <dbrom> ok. after running the command where does the config go for xrandr
[04:45] <sidney_> dragon?
[04:45] <memand> veryhappy: But isn't there a config file somewhere that specifies what to do when I try to lock screen?
[04:45] <bertieb> dbrom: which command?
[04:46] <OerHeks> sidney, install libdvdread4 and run the install-css.sh script, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[04:46] <OerHeks> veryhappy, that factoid is nice, nothing wrong to give that
[04:46] <dbrom> ok brake it down. im looking at the file you sent and want to set my system up..... just need to know how....
[04:46] <veryhappy> OerHeks: ok, good buddy, that's what i would have recommended him with libdvdread4
[04:47] <hangdeadman> Ben64: 27656483 drwxr-xr-x  2 weldon weldon     4096 Dec  5  2009 ?? Void
[04:47] <samuraibsd> Is there a known issue in 12.04 that makes wifi not connect to WEP encrypted networks?
[04:47] <hangdeadman> Ben64: is that it?
[04:47] <Ben64> hangdeadman: yeah
[04:47] <enriq> is it advisable to have the partition containing /boot to be also the one with the bootable flag?
[04:47] <dbrom> the thing is two monitors are clones of each other and the third is black
[04:47] <veryhappy> memand: ok, here it could be the solution: Try the screensaver command, and see if this is the keyboard (shortcut) or the application (graphics function) that is not working gnome-screensaver-command -l
[04:47] <hangdeadman> Ben64: I tried "ls -il Music"
[04:48] <bertieb> dbrom: Okay. When I run that script to set the outputs for my montors correctly, so it is the config file of sorts
[04:49] <bertieb> dbrom: ^^ s/what I said/not ten to five in the morning grammar/
[04:49] <Ben64> hangdeadman:  "find . -inum 27656483 -exec rm -fri {} \;"
[04:49] <memand> veryhappy: not to be an smart a** but as I said earlier I purged the gnome screensaver and installed xscreensaver
[04:49] <zivester> anyone seen nfs mount issues with an updated 12.10? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474772/
[04:50] <dbrom> i change the xrandr --output DVI-1 --mode 2560x1440 -r 60 to 1920x1080 -r 60
[04:50] <veryhappy> memand: oops, sorry, my fault, it's ok, sometimes you skip something while you read
[04:50] <memand> veryhappy: np, I read too fast for my own good too sometimes :P
[04:50] <hangdeadman> Ben64: rm: descend into directory `./Music/\235\235 Void'?
[04:50] <bertieb> dbrom: you'll need to run xranrd with no arguments to find how your minitors are identified
[04:51] <Ben64> hangdeadman: yeah it'll confirm everything that it's deleting
[04:51] <bertieb> dbrom: my typing is getting quite poor
[04:51] <memand> veryhappy: but do you know where I should go to direct it to xscreensaver instead of gnome screenscaver?
[04:51] <memand> *screensaver
[04:51] <bertieb> dbrom: basically you'll need to change --output too
[04:51] <hangdeadman> Ben64: sould i just hit 'enter'?
[04:52] <Ben64> hangdeadman: y for yes
[04:52] <veryhappy> well, i'm writing you what you have to try now: create a script called screenLock.py with the following code in it:  http://pastebin.com/qBu1YTgA
[04:53] <veryhappy> memand: place it in ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/customExtensions/screenLock.py
[04:53] <Ben64> so why not just use the gnome screensaver?
[04:53] <hangdeadman> Ben64: I typed 'y' after everything and at the end got "find: `./Music/\235\235 Void': No such file or directory"
[04:54] <Ben64> hangdeadman: it should be gone though
[04:54] <memand> Ben64: cus xscreensaver is AWSOME
[04:54] <memand> veryhappy: thx
[04:55] <jeromest> 请教各位，我想用Banshee听音乐，但是radio里面一个频道都没有,有默认电台吗？
[04:55] <hangdeadman> Ben64: thanks!
[04:55] <veryhappy> memand: did it finally work :)
[04:56] <veryhappy> jeromest: eigohanasemasuka?
[04:57] <jimmy> Samsung N150 netbook running 12.04. Brightness is stuck on lowest setting. Fn + up/down arrow    changes screen brightness graphic, but not brightness.
[04:57] <memand> veryhappy: actually not, I just tried to edit the file but it didn't exist, and since it's python script I don't really wanna just write it out myself
[04:57] <dbrom> this is the only time i have not liked kubuntu
[04:57] <veryhappy> memand: ok, sorry that i couldn't help
[04:57] <memand> veryhappy: np
[04:58] <memand> veryhappy: I'll get back to you if I figure something out ;)
[04:58] <Ben64> veryhappy: thats chinese, not japanese, and what you said makes no sense in japanese either
[04:58] <veryhappy> memand: no need, i'll go now
[04:58] <jeromest> veryhappy: ? Can I speak English ?
[04:58] <veryhappy> yea guys, i thought it would be japanese
[04:59] <veryhappy> with my less japanese that i know i tried to help him out, didn't work, sorry for that.
[04:59] <jeromest> veryhappy: I'm sorry , I speak Chinese !!!
[04:59] <Ben64> !cn | jeromest
[04:59] <jeromest> ubottu: But I could not get any help
[05:00] <jeromest> ubottu: bot ?
[05:00] <samuraibsd> I'm having trouble connecting to a wireless neuron
[05:00] <samuraibsd> Network *
[05:01] <samuraibsd> A wireless neuron would be cool, though
[05:01] <Ben64> jeromest: This channel is for English language help only, if you can ask in English, we might be able to help
[05:01] <jeromest> veryhappy: There has any radio address in my Banshee , How can i add it ? Thank you !
[05:01] <jeromest> Ben64: Think you !
[05:02] <veryhappy> jeromest: 请使用谷歌翻译，如果你不能够编写正确的英语。
[05:03] <veryhappy> jeromest: http://translate.google.cn/
[05:03] <JesseH> Can someone help me with this .. E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:03] <JesseH> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[05:03] <JesseH> Dang, meant to copy paste the hastebin link ^^
[05:04] <Ben64> JesseH: you can only have one thing using apt at a time, or you have to use sudo
[05:04] <OerHeks> JesseH, do you have softwarecentre/synaptic and terminal open ?
[05:04] <JesseH> Only terminal
[05:04] <jeromest> veryhappy: I want to know how can I add radio channels in Banshee ? Thank you !
[05:05] <JesseH> OerHeks, I've tried 'dpkg --configure -a" after doing 'rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock'. That didn't work.
[05:06] <dbrom> im looking for a blog that would help me with my problem of monitors not working correctly in kubuntu
[05:06] <OerHeks> JesseH, try this from terminal: sudo fuser -cuk /var/cache/apt/archives/lock; sudo rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[05:07] <memand> veryhappy: Ok, I fixed it :) sudo ln -s /usr/bin/xscreensaver-command /usr/bin/gnome-screensaver-command
[05:07] <OerHeks> JesseH, your solution would work with dpkg not apt
[05:07] <veryhappy> jeromest: 這是一個更好的方式來溝通。在女妖在電台中單擊>點擊加號，那麼你就應該能夠進入您的數據。
[05:08] <kaar> hd
[05:08] <veryhappy> memand: damn, that was something that i forgot. i'm sorry.
[05:08] <memand> veryhappy: np :)
[05:09] <jeromest> veryhappy: You can speak English , I think i can understand simple English sentence.
[05:09] <veryhappy> jeromest: ok, did you understand what i wrote?
[05:09] <jeromest> veryhappy: Thank you very much
[05:09] <JesseH> lol What happened
[05:09] <veryhappy> jeromest: ok.
[05:10] <JesseH> Ran that commmand and the screen went black OerHeks
[05:10] <jeromest> veryhappy: I can't understand it
[05:10] <kelvinella> hi is it possible to install ubuntu or xubuntu on macbook or macbook air?
[05:10] <enriq> I just copied my /boot partition to another one, then changed fstab, that's it?
[05:10] <veryhappy> jeromest: in banshee click on radio, click on the plus sign and then enter the details of the radio station.
[05:10] <OerHeks> JesseH, did it solve that lock ?
[05:11] <jeromest> veryhappy: Thank you for translated it for me .
[05:11] <veryhappy> jeromest: i tried my best.
[05:11] <JesseH> It did, but I think it was because of me having to restart OerHeks ;)
[05:12] <hangdeadman> Ben64: nautilus still crashes when opening my music folder
[05:12] <jeromest> I tried to enter the radio station , But it can't works , Is there has any default radio channels ? Thank you !
[05:13] <veryhappy> hangdeadman: honestly under windows i'd have said, it might be a virus but in linux i'd say perhaps a bug?
[05:13]  * Pei_ is installing ubuntu
[05:13] <Pei_> so far it looks like this is desktop linux how it should be
[05:13] <veryhappy> jeromest: you have to find your own.
[05:14] <hangdeadman> veryhappy: well what can i do?
[05:14] <JesseH> Everyone has been telling me that Ubuntu fucked up starting with 11, with that Unity stuff.
[05:15] <ChaozHenchman> what Unity stuff?
[05:15] <bazhang> JesseH, no cursing here
[05:15] <ChaozHenchman> Unity itself?
[05:15] <MK`> whenever I plug in my USB headphones, I need to go into sound preferences and select it as the output so the volume controls will work with it. How can I make it so it recognizes whenever I plug in the headset?
[05:15] <veryhappy> hangdeadman: don't trust only on what i say, what you could do is perhaps file a bug at ubuntu.com
[05:15] <Tex_Nick> ! language | JesseH
[05:15] <jeromest> veryhappy: Thank you very much , although we spoke different languages , You get me so much help !
[05:15] <bazhang> JesseH, lets take chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic as well
[05:15] <veryhappy> jeromest: you are welcome.
[05:16] <JesseH> I think being told to not curse, several times is far too many.
[05:16] <JesseH> I said one word, and 3 people responded.
[05:16] <bazhang> JesseH, then followthe guidelines
[05:16] <MK`> Yeah it's a bad habit of this channel
[05:16] <veryhappy> MK`: try alsastore
[05:16] <JesseH> Oh god MK` don't say bad.
[05:16] <veryhappy> MK`: sorry my fault : alsactl store
[05:17] <bazhang> JesseH, thats enough
[05:17] <JesseH> lol.
[05:17] <JesseH> I am trying to get help here.
[05:17] <MK`> Additionally, my power indicator crashed, does anyone know the name of the one for gnome fallback in 11.10?
[05:17] <dr_willis> was there an actual support questoion?
[05:18] <veryhappy> ok guys, heading to bed. take care
[05:18] <JesseH> o/
[05:18] <Muphrid> take it easy
[05:18] <veryhappy> good night
[05:18] <Pei_> lol
[05:18] <Pei_> nite
[05:18] <hangdeadman> Is there a way to re install nautilus and try to start from scratch? I've delt with this problem for too long now.
[05:19] <JesseH> bazhang, Also, talking about Ubuntu, in #ubuntu shouldn't be off-topic friend.
[05:19] <MK`> hangdeadman: just uninstall and reinstall it.
[05:19] <enriq> apparently 12.04 can install alongside 10.04, what does it do? create a new root partition and share the rest? I would expect that
[05:19] <IdleOne> "talking" is not what this channel is for JesseH
[05:19] <MK`> but, the best solution might be resetting whatever settings it has to default instead
[05:19] <IdleOne> you can "talk" in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:20] <MK`> enriq: what do you mean alongside?
[05:20] <enriq> MK`, dual boot
[05:20] <JesseH> IdleOne, Thankyou for giving me a logical reason.
[05:20] <enriq> MK`, installer says that
[05:20] <hangdeadman> MK`: how do i reset it to the default settings?
[05:20] <MK`> Ah. Well, you can install as many ubuntus as you want on a harddrive so long as you have space.
[05:20] <dbrom> here is something strange. I have four monitors one screen is black and the indicator is flashing the second is black and the indicator is on and the other two are closes....
[05:21] <enriq> MK`, that was not my question
[05:21] <MK`> hangdeadman: rm -R ~/.gconf/apps/nautilus
[05:21] <dbrom> the thing that the one thats black abd the indicator is solid is the main screen....
[05:23] <jimmy> Any good reason to go with ubuntu server over debian?
[05:23] <Pei_> :P
[05:24] <dr_willis> jimmy: #ubuntu-server may have better answers to that. Guess it depends on what  disrto you perfer. and if you like upstart over er.. what is debian using now?
[05:25] <hangdeadman> Removing nautilus and reinstalling it through the software center won't have any ill effect will it?
[05:25] <kylescottmcgill> Speaking of Ubuntu Server, im just taking a punt, but Ubuntu Server is basically ubuntu without a GUI correct? so if i wanted to configure xorg and friends, that would be the better way to go yeah?
[05:25] <dbrom> Jimmy: not really, as long as you get the server locked down and patched. and I agree with dr_wills on it depends on what you like
[05:25] <MK`> enriq I don't know if sharing partitions is supported (aside from things like tmp)
[05:25] <bertieb> dbrom: no luck with xrandr then?
[05:25] <MK`> kylescottmcgill: Ubuntu server has different kernel compile options
[05:26] <MK`> but overall it is the same
[05:26] <kylescottmcgill> MK`: thankyou, thats a no then
[05:26] <dbrom> no yet...
[05:26] <kylescottmcgill> I would rather avoid having to screw with the kernal, ty
[05:26] <MK`> yup
[05:27] <dbrom> did you read my strange things
[05:27] <ackpacket> Has anyone seen any good isntructions for installing ubuntu to a usb?  Everything I can find through google so far either concerns installing ubuntu *from* a usb, or putting the ubuntu live cd with persistance onto a usb.  I'm looking for a legitimate installation though
[05:27] <dr_willis> if you want a desktop system - go with ubuntu desktop. and install the services you need
[05:27] <yeats> !liveusb | ackpacket
[05:27] <kylescottmcgill> ackpacket: what are you on now?
[05:28] <ackpacket> I'm on windows 7, but I have access to an ubuntu VM
[05:28] <dr_willis> ackpacket:  you just tell the installer to install to  sdd or sdb or whatever the USB flash is... no differnt then installing to a normal internal HD.. be sure GRUB is installing to the USB also
[05:28] <kylescottmcgill> nevermind, yeats has you need
[05:28] <yeats> ackpacket: assuming you've seen those?
[05:28] <dbrom> ya. ubuntu desktop with the services you require is the same as the server addition
[05:28] <dr_willis> ackpacket:  ive done full installs to usb hd, and usb flash and sdhc cards dozens of times
[05:28] <bertieb> dbrom: strange things? I was over in #libav so may have missed some
[05:28] <dr_willis> ackpacket:  i normally make a live-usb and do a full install from IT to  my 'bigger' usb
[05:29] <ackpacket> I've tried going through the regular ubuntu installation process:  Inserting an ubuntu cd, booting, and using the permanent install.  Then i've selected the usb stick instead of my hd
[05:29] <ackpacket> it has plenty of errors that way =\
[05:29] <dbrom> here is something strange. I have four monitors one screen is black and the indicator is flashing the second is black and the indicator is on and the other two are closes....
[05:29] <ackpacket> For starters it tries to alter the mbr on my hdd, not the flash
[05:29] <dr_willis> ackpacket:  ive done it dozens of times with no hassles. I do manually partition the USB.
[05:29] <dr_willis> ackpacket:  you TELL the grub loader in the pulldown thing where to go.. if all else fails. Unplug the internal HDs
[05:29] <bertieb> dbrom:  at a wild guess, the modes aren't right
[05:29] <kylescottmcgill> dbrom: what WM are you using? that sounds like a xrandr or xinama thing (spelling is wrong)
[05:30] <dbrom> the thing that the one thats black abd the indicator is solid is the main screen....
[05:30] <dbrom> i havent done anything yet
[05:30] <ackpacket> Ok let me give this a shot.  I'll load the ubuntu iso on a virtual machine, and go through the installation process but identify the usb as the destination.  Sound good?
[05:30] <kylescottmcgill> can you get to a terminal?
[05:30] <kylescottmcgill> dbrom: ^
[05:30] <dbrom> WM?
[05:30] <hangdeadman> When trying to open my music folder with nautilus through the terminal, after a wait it crashes and I get "Bus error (core dumped)"
[05:31] <ackpacket> yeats: Yeah i've seen those sites, but isn't that different from a normal installation?
[05:31] <kylescottmcgill> dbrom: Window Manager, eg Gnome 3, Awesome WM, Xmonad, etc
[05:31] <bertieb> dbrom: eg, my WM doesn't set the DGM (in the apstebin example I gave) correctly so it doesn't display anything apart from "Input out of range"
[05:31] <dr_willis> ackpacket:  i never do it via vbox. I boot a live-usb and then install to the real usb.
[05:31] <bertieb> dbrom: In another WM it just puts int into standby
[05:31] <MK`> My Update Manager says "Not all updates can be installed", the Partial upgrade recommendation, etc. Among them is linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, and linux-image-generic. What do I do?
[05:32] <dbrom> This is a total kubuntu 12.10 install...havent used windows in a few years
[05:32] <ackpacket> dr_willis: I do it through a vbox to save me the trouble of restarting, and as a safeguard incase I accidentally try to partition something I shouldn't
[05:32] <kylescottmcgill> dbrom: sounds like your having heaps of problems, i would disconnect all monitors apart from one, get that working properly, then move on the others, if you have the same screen for all four, once you have one working you will be able to just modify your xorg script, and you should be nearly there
[05:32] <yeats> ackpacket: it would begin as the installation image with a persistence file, but you could tailor it to be whatever you want
[05:32] <bertieb> dbrom: so I have to use xrandr to set the modes properly (there's a toool that spits out a reasonably correct modeline given an input resolution and refresh rate, the name of which escapes me at the moment)
[05:33] <kylescottmcgill> xrandr -q
[05:33] <kylescottmcgill> will query to see what is avaliable according to your GFX and Kernal
[05:33] <bertieb> ah, cvt is the one that gives the modelines
[05:35] <dbrom> im using Nvidia 580 Ti card
[05:35] <kylescottmcgill> nvidia drivers, or open source?
[05:36] <dbrom> i have the same thing on two at thte moment and nothe on the third and the forth is not reconized...
[05:36] <dr_willis> ackpacket:  and the use of vbox may be whats causing you all the grief
[05:36] <dbrom> just went though the additional drivers
[05:36] <dr_willis> dbrom:  i thought you had 2 nvidia video cards?
[05:36] <kylescottmcgill> ok that will be the Nvidia Drivers
[05:37] <dbrom> took one out
[05:37] <dr_willis> heh :) you have One video card that can do 4 monitor outputs? ;)
[05:37] <dbrom> yes
[05:37] <MK`> how do I re-run an indicator that has crashed? When I run indicator-power it says command not found
[05:37] <dr_willis> I have to wonder why you had the 2nd card installed  in the first place.. ;)
[05:38] <kylescottmcgill> yeah... does the 580 do 4 monitors?.... i want one
[05:38] <dbrom> i wanted to run 2 per at one point
[05:38] <dbrom> yes it does
[05:38] <jayzon915> Hello World
[05:38] <dr_willis> kylescottmcgill:  so far it can.. in theory. ;)
[05:38] <yeats> MK`: try typing 'indicator-<TAB>' for autocomplete
[05:38] <dr_willis> kylescottmcgill:  we all know how often the nvidia drivers on linux lack features.
[05:38] <kylescottmcgill> hmmm im building up a PC atm and i have to get a GFX card, so i might look into that (been looking at ATI so far)
[05:39] <MK`> must be part of multiload.
[05:39] <kylescottmcgill> lol ya
[05:39] <jayzon915> I am curious about nVidia Drivers too... Trying to use WINE to game and my in game FPS is jumping around like crazy. Any advice?
[05:39] <dr_willis> I dont have enought desk or wall space for 4 monitors
[05:40] <kylescottmcgill> lol neither.... i will sit on the floor instead
[05:40] <dr_willis> jayzon915:  it can depend  on so many factors. ;)
[05:40] <bazhang> #winehq jayzon915 after checking the appdb
[05:40] <bazhang> !appdb | jayzon915
[05:40] <jayzon915> Yeah... WineHQ says it should run well
[05:40] <dbrom> should i go open source drivers in stead
[05:40] <MK`> yeats it's not showing up :( I have the package installed...
[05:40] <yeats> MK`: not sure then
[05:41] <dr_willis> dbrom:  open source drivers may not support  multi monitors very well..  but you could always test them with a live cd. ;)
[05:41] <kylescottmcgill> dbrom: i dont think so, i think its just a x<something> issue
[05:41] <dr_willis> There are often weird limits to the nvidia drivers.. for example i belive you cant rotate one monitor 90 degrees in linux. like you can in windows.
[05:41] <dbrom> the thing is that when i go into the Nvidia manager it sees all four but I only have access to two
[05:42] <dbrom> i can to 180 wih mine
[05:42] <dr_willis> it might be a limit  of the drivers.. or a bug in the drivers.
[05:42] <dr_willis> from what i saw on askubuntu.com however. a guy with 2 identical cards set up 4 monitors. and gave his example xorg.conf
[05:43] <dbrom> i have no idea what to do next
[05:43] <dr_willis> You have 2 monitors that clone the other 2 basically?
[05:43] <Hwkiller> dr_willis: you should be able to rotate with nvidia
[05:43] <Hwkiller> i've done it
[05:43] <dr_willis> Hwkiller:  you couldent (from what i read) rotate just ONE of the monitors. :) that was the core of the issue i was reading about
[05:43] <MK`> what about my other issues?
[05:43] <MK`> My Update Manager says "Not all updates can be installed", the Partial upgrade recommendation, etc. Among them is linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, and linux-image-generic. What do I do?
[05:44] <dbrom> no, I have one that close the other and the other two are black (no picture)
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[05:44] <dr_willis> Hwkiller:  it might be fixed by now also.
[05:44] <kylescottmcgill> dbrom: you could *try* xorg -configure
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[05:44] <FloodBot1> Guest_73: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[05:44] <kylescottmcgill> it will probe your devices and reset up your xorg conf file, also i would look into DPS or something
[05:44] <dr_willis> dbrom:  from what ive read. you just enable twinview. extend desktop.. and  save teh xorg.conf and restart the x server...
[05:45] <kylescottmcgill> floodbot looks like its on the move
[05:46] <dr_willis> floodbot flooded me with mode changes. ;)
[05:46] <kylescottmcgill> yeah i got that too
[05:46] <kylescottmcgill> weechat needs a filter or something
[05:46] <dr_willis> i need to figure out how to filter those out in weechat
[05:46] <dr_willis> im sure it can do it..
[05:46] <kylescottmcgill> lol ^^
[05:47] <dbrom> could it be as easy as the splitter im using
[05:47] <neobenedict> [05:46:56] <@FloodBot1> mtb-vero, this is a check to ensure that you're human and not a spambot: What color is a blue butterfly?
[05:47] <neobenedict> it's obviously red
[05:47] <neobenedict> >.>
[05:47] <kylescottmcgill> dbrom: your using a splitter?
[05:47] <dbrom> yes
[05:48] <dbrom> 2 dvi to 4
[05:48] <bertieb> FWIW, My experiece with AMD 3 monitor setup has been that neither the generic xorg (+/- reconfigure) not amdcccle would detect/save resolutions/refresh properly, so I went down the xrandr route which is working (touch wood) okay for now
[05:48] <kylescottmcgill> ahhh, ok, i know this isnt the same but i nearly jumped off the bridge because of this
[05:49] <kylescottmcgill> i have a macbook running Ubuntu, and i have a Thunderbolt -> VGA, and it doesnt pick up the devices properly
[05:49] <dbrom> if i use two cards it wants me to use two different desktops.... if i do so how do i switch between them
[05:49] <kylescottmcgill> i had to Disable in my case DPMS (i think)
[05:50] <dr_willis>   kylescottmcgill   this 'might' send mode chang4es to the status window ;)    /set irc.msgbuffer.mode weechat
[05:50] <kylescottmcgill> oh ty
[05:50] <dr_willis> 4.6.9. Target buffer for IRC messages
[05:51] <dr_willis> http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_user.en.html
[05:51] <jeromest> Can I ask a questions ? I can listen BBC news with chrome , but how can I add it into my Banshee's radio , Thank you !
[05:51] <kylescottmcgill> Floodbot come at me again :D
[05:51] <kylescottmcgill> ty dr_willis  i will check that out
[05:51] <dr_willis> jeromest:  often you can right click in the player and get a stream url. you can paste into other players
[05:52] <chaotix> when creating a new live usb, what is the best filesystem type to format to?  i have heard that ext4 is best, but then why does the default live usb creator in ubuntu use (fat32?) ?
[05:52] <dbrom> if i use two cards it will not allo me to combine the for together
[05:53] <hangdeadman> What is the best looking and most customizable file manager for ubuntu besides nautilus?
[05:53] <jeromest> The internet address is "http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_6music" , But I can't find the stream url . Can you help me ?
[05:53] <dr_willis> chaotix:  a Live-usb uses fat32 becasuse its a live usb. :0 a full install would be best with one of the ext#'s
[05:53] <TheHypnoTaco> would there be a special reason to use the 32 bit version of a 64 bit version if the CPU supports 64 bit, but you only have 2 GBs of RAM? Such as does the 64 bit Ubuntu use more RAM than the 32 bit version like Windows ?
[05:54] <dr_willis> chaotix:  you could put the live-usb stuff on a ext2/3/4 i think. but not sure why you would want to
[05:54] <dr_willis> TheHypnoTaco:  i use 64bit os on all my 64bit hardware reguardless of ram
[05:54] <kylescottmcgill> chaotix: use fat32
[05:54] <kylescottmcgill> Most computers can read this off the bat, and the boot partition on it needs to be fat32 anyway
[05:54] <Hwkiller> It doesn't really matter; people use fat32 so you can see the files on any system
[05:54] <kylescottmcgill> for bios boots
[05:54] <dr_willis> chaotix:  on a live usb. any space not used by the os/persistant files canbe used/accessed by windows - if you want.
[05:54] <Hwkiller> as long as grub2 has fs drivers for it, you can use it
[05:55] <TheHypnoTaco> dr_willis: So it's not going to pull a Windows 7 and use 1.7 GBs ideling, when the 32 bit version with the same programs uses about 900 MBs only ?
[05:55] <hangdeadman> What is the best looking and most customizable file manager for ubuntu besides nautilus?
[05:55] <dr_willis> TheHypnoTaco:  never noticed. ive been using 64bit os for ages.
[05:55] <bertieb> See how (for avconv) say %3d.jpg is shorhand for [001.jpg .. 999.jpg], what's the shorthand for the non zero-padded version [ie 1.jpg .. 999.jpg] ?
[05:55] <Hwkiller> hangdeadman: pcmanfm, thunar
[05:56] <Hwkiller> hangdeadman: or look into something totally different, like ranger. that's what I use
[05:56] <dr_willis> hangdeadman:  depends on your needs in a file manager... Looks are trivial compared to functions you want/need
[05:56] <TheHypnoTaco> dr_willis: I guess then I'll download the 64 bit one.  I may go lighter though with Xubuntu.
[05:56] <kylescottmcgill> hangdeadman: mc
[05:56] <dr_willis> mc - is a MUST learn about tool. ;)
[05:56] <dr_willis> !info gentoo
[05:56] <Hwkiller> (I prefer ranger over mc)
[05:56] <kylescottmcgill> :D
[05:56] <dr_willis> then theres dozens of other 2 pane file managers
[05:56] <dr_willis> !info ranger
[05:57] <dr_willis> Python! ;P
[05:57] <bertieb> TheHypnoTaco: if it's idling, what difference does RAM useage make? :P
[05:57] <kylescottmcgill> i know its not as popular, but i love anything thats lua based, gives me the control back :D
[05:57] <chaotix> thanks guys
[05:57] <dr_willis> been using 2 pane file managers for.. well.. decades. ;)
[05:57] <jeromest> dr_willis: The chrome address is "http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_6music" , But I can't find the stream url . Can you help me ? Thanks !
[05:57] <jeromest>
[05:58] <TheHypnoTaco> bertieb: when I went to go playing my games , everything :o
[05:58] <TheHypnoTaco> but I'm just looking for a XP replacement now, since I put the games on another newer machine
[05:59] <TheHypnoTaco> I may go LTS to try and have that "leave me alone for a while" XP mentallity too
[05:59] <bertieb> TheHypnoTaco: Playing a game is different from idling, AFAIH Windows aggressively caches files to RAM, which makes it look like it's using a buncha RAM. But this is getting waaay O/T
[05:59] <dr_willis> jeromest:  looks to me like that site ONLY works with their built in player
[05:59] <MK`> My Update Manager says "Not all updates can be installed", the Partial upgrade recommendation, etc. Among them is linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, and linux-image-generic. What do I do? :S
[05:59] <TheHypnoTaco> bertieb: yes.
[06:00] <jeromest> dr_willis: Thank you !
[06:00] <dbrom> ok. im out. talk later.... be back tomorrow
[06:00] <Muphrid> MK`: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:01] <bertieb> Any advance on a non-padded version of (eg) %3d. man printf is terse, to say the least!
[06:02] <vrnithin> hi,
[06:02] <vrnithin> how to find glib-2.0 in our system ?
[06:03] <vrnithin> am trying to build bumblebee from source.
[06:03] <Hwkiller> so you're looking for the dev package?
[06:03] <vrnithin> but they are showing  No package 'glib-2.0' found
[06:03] <vrnithin> but i installed it
[06:04] <jeromest> dr_willis: By the way , which stream type can be used for Banshee radio on ubuntu ? Only mms or other type ?
[06:04] <MK`> Muphrid: what would that do? I don't want to upgrade.
[06:04] <vrnithin> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[06:04] <vrnithin> how to do this ?
[06:05] <iitalics> windows is better
[06:05] <Muphrid> MK`: in principle that would install these files
[06:05] <Muphrid> MK`: distro upgrading is do-release-upgrade
[06:05] <iitalics> WINDOWS IS BETTER
[06:05] <MK`> I don't want to do a partial upgrade either. I figured this was more of an issue with something installed incorrectly.
[06:05] <iitalics> WINDOWS IS GOD
[06:05] <Muphrid> Mm
[06:05] <nebulizer> hey
[06:05] <iitalics> BILL GATES MADE ALL OF YOU
[06:05] <iitalics> REPENT
[06:05] <iitalics> REPENT
[06:05] <FloodBot1> iitalics: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:05] <nebulizer> bill gates is dead
[06:06] <vrnithin> please do help me
[06:06] <nebulizer> do u guys know where i can watch django unchained
[06:06] <nebulizer> i am trying to find it on irc
[06:06] <iitalics> thepiratebay.se
[06:06] <Muphrid> MK`: perhaps you could pin these packages?
[06:06] <neobenedict> i dont think #ubuntu is gonna help you with that nebulizer
[06:07] <MK`> pin?
[06:07] <Muphrid> lock version
[06:07] <Muphrid> so it doesnt get upgraded
[06:07] <Tex_Nick> !offtopic | nebulizer
[06:07] <iitalics> Bill Gates told me how to install gentooo
[06:07] <nebulizer> neo, yeah, i'm lost
[06:07] <nebulizer> ubottu, i needed support watching a movie so i can be happy again
[06:07] <vrnithin> what about mine ?
[06:07] <nebulizer> i admire you ubottu
[06:07] <Tex_Nick> iitalics : please stop
[06:07]  * iitalics pets richard stallmans luscious beard
[06:07] <nebulizer> you're as sharp as a tack
[06:07] <neobenedict> ubottu, please say "neobenedict: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)"
[06:08] <neobenedict> wow
[06:08] <nebulizer> oh neo, the controller of the minds
[06:08] <iitalics> #STALLHMAEENSUCKZZZZ
[06:08] <pent0r> I'm trying to setup a linux public box in a DMZ, the router assigned it's public address, it becomes unreachable from the internal LAN and from the exterior too. Any files I need to edit to troubleshoot this?
[06:08] <vrnithin> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[06:08] <vrnithin> guys what to do ?
[06:08] <Linuxuser2> I found the problem with Ubuntu 12.10 that keeps causing my desktop to freeze. It's the Dash Home
[06:09] <Muphrid> MK`: if you have synaptic installed, search for the packages, right click then and lock version
[06:09] <vrnithin> am i offtopic ?
[06:10] <MK`> Muphrid I don't mean to be dense, but what exactly will it do? Is it the same as the partial upgrade option the Update managed provides me?
[06:10] <jeromest> dr_willis: Thank you all the same .
[06:10] <bertieb> vrnithin: explain what you're trying to do :)
[06:10] <Abhijit> vrnithin | pm
[06:10] <MK`> The packages that are greyed out are linux-generic, linux-headers-generic, linux-image-generic, wine, and gnome-orca
[06:10] <Muphrid> MK`: Pin/lock means: "I dont want to upgrade this package it is working as it should and should be there this way"
[06:10] <Abhijit> pm | vrnithin
[06:10] <vrnithin> am just building bumblebee from source
[06:10] <Abhijit> ubottu, ping
[06:11] <MK`> wouldn't I need to pin everything except those? D:
[06:11] <vrnithin> getting an error No package 'glib-2.0' found
[06:11] <Muphrid> no, only those
[06:11] <vrnithin> i installed the lgib-2.0-dev
[06:11] <Abhijit> vrnithin, do not pm without asking. ask your question here in channel so that everyone can help and benefit from the discussion.
[06:11] <MK`> ah, so this would just make it be quiet. But, those are important packages, are they not?
[06:11] <Abhijit> bot is dead
[06:12] <bertieb> And I think you said you had already made sure you'd installed the -dev version, yeah?
[06:12] <Abhijit> bertieb, can you read me?
[06:12] <Muphrid> MK`: kernel fixes, they are sometimes but not always
[06:12] <bertieb> Abhijit: yup
[06:12] <Abhijit> oh. thanks.
[06:12] <MK`> eh,... I might just reinstall.
[06:13] <Muphrid> MK`: you have 3 options, pin, stay as you are and wait for it to be upgradeable sometime, or just upgrade it
[06:13] <MK`> I also cannot seem to get my battery indicator working.
[06:13] <Muphrid> MK`: only the battery? is it showing up but not working or not showing up at all?
[06:14] <MK`> It was working fine before, but now it's not showing up as of a few hours ago.. I even purged and reinstalled indicator-power but it's not reappearing.
[06:14] <MK`> not showing up
[06:15] <yeats> Abhijit: you have to prefix bot commands with a ! (e.g. !pm)
[06:15] <Abhijit> yeats, oh yeah right. i forgot it.
[06:15] <vrnithin> whats mean by PKG_CONFIG_PATH
[06:16] <silv3r_m00n> we have 1 modem -> 1 switch -> 3 pcs(all ubuntu), it appears that whenever more than 1 pc is turned on, the internet speed on all pcs slows down, inspite of ping repsonse times being good, what could be the reason ?
[06:16] <Abhijit> vrnithin, what are you trying to do?
[06:16] <dr_willis>   kylescottmcgill   that command does seem to filter out the mode changes. ;)  isent weechat cool.    /set irc.msgbuffer.mode weechat
[06:16] <vrnithin> Abhijit: building bumblebee from source.
[06:18] <Abhijit> vrnithin, ok. and what are the issues you are facing?
[06:18] <vrnithin> Abhijit, No package 'glib-2.0' found
[06:19] <yeats> !find glib
[06:19] <vrnithin> Abhijit, i installed glib-2.0-dev
[06:20] <MK`> any idea Muphrid?
[06:20] <Muphrid> MK`: googling it
[06:20] <vrnithin> Abhijit,Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[06:20] <hangdeadman> How do I make pcmanfm default file manager in ubuntu 12.04?
[06:20] <kelvinella> hi is ubuntu 32bits can only read 4 GB of ram?
[06:21] <Muphrid> MK`: check this http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=276418
[06:21] <Abhijit> vrnithin, try intstalling libglib2.0*
[06:21] <kelvinella> if i have 8 GB ram laptop, should i install ubuntu 64 bits instead? whats pros and cons?
[06:21] <Abhijit> vrnithin, sudo apt-get install libglib2.0
[06:21] <Abhijit> vrnithin, sudo apt-get install libglib2.0*
[06:22] <Muphrid> kelvinella: 32bits can only addres 2^32 bytes of ram which is 4.2gb
[06:22] <Abhijit> vrnithin, use the second command with star
[06:22] <MK`> Muphrid: I came across something similar as well. It's still set to true in the settings (I never changed it)
[06:22] <kelvinella> Muphrid, is there speed diff between 32 bits and 64 bits?
[06:22] <Muphrid> kelvinella: no, speed is the same
[06:22] <Muphrid> MK`: i presume reboot didnt work aswell?
[06:23] <vrnithin> Abhijit,k thanks it working fine...
[06:23] <Abhijit> vrnithin, welcome.
[06:23] <kelvinella> if i installed 64bit, do i have all the softwares in the repo?
[06:23] <MK`> I will try rebooting next I guess
[06:23] <Abhijit> vrnithin, you can always search for available lirary in software center by typoing e.g. glib in search box OR you can do apt-cache search glib in terminal
[06:24] <Muphrid> kelvinella: yes, those who have no port will work if you install ia32-libs
[06:24] <kelvinella> so if i custom build a desktop, do i build one with 4GB and dont bother with more ram?
[06:25] <hangdeadman> How do I make pcmanfm default file manager in ubuntu 12.04?
[06:25] <Muphrid> kelvinella: if you think you dont need more than 4gb...but ram is cheap nowadays, id just dual channel 4gb
[06:26] <MK`> kelvinella: go with 64-bit if you're building a new one.
[06:26] <imgx64> "sudo apt-get upgrade" gives me this error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1474895/ , is it actually safe to use -f?
[06:27] <Muphrid> imgx64: you could install these dependencies
[06:27] <kelvinella> so do i download diff iso for 64bit?
[06:27] <MK`> kelvinella: yes.
[06:27] <vrnithin> Abhijit,k thank u very much...its done..
[06:28] <Muphrid> kelvinella: if you plan to use more than 4gb of ram, yes
[06:28] <imgx64> Muphrid: Yes, but it gives a similar message about having to use "-f" if I try to install them with apt-get install. Is it safe to use -f or is there a chance to break my system?
[06:28] <kmonlinux> how to i use crontab to schedule my works
[06:28] <Muphrid> imgx64: is software center working right now?
[06:29] <kelvinella> can i install ubuntu 64bits in virtualbox if i am running ubuntu 32 bit?
[06:29] <imgx64> Muphrid: I haven't tried it actually. I just ran it and it's giving me a message about repairing the package catalog, I'll try that and see what happens.
[06:29] <Muphrid> LOL
[06:29] <genius> hi
[06:29] <genius> friends
[06:29] <Muphrid> imgx64: yes it is safe, -f is for --fix-broken
[06:30] <Muphrid> i was thinking on -force
[06:30] <genius> i just installed GUI on ubuntu server using apt-get install desktop-ubuntu
[06:30] <kelvinella> what dcc chat?
[06:30] <genius> it is installed properly
[06:30] <genius> but
[06:31] <dr_willis> genius:  you mean 'ubuntu-desktop' ?
[06:31] <genius> yes
[06:31] <Abhijit> kelvinella, yes. only if your cpu is 64 bit.
[06:31] <genius> after that i am not able to see the taskbar
[06:31] <Abhijit> i mean only if your cpu supports 64bit virtualisation.
[06:31] <Muphrid> kelvinella: i dont think you can guest 64 bit on a 32bit host
[06:32] <genius> hover is working properly
[06:32] <dr_willis> genius:  whats your video card? and what do you see exactly.
[06:32] <genius> but i think i need to change its background colors
[06:32] <hangdeadman> How do I make pcmanfm default file manager in ubuntu 12.04?
[06:32] <kelvinella> the laptop had win7 64bit on it and i format and install xubuntu 32bit
[06:33] <Muphrid> kelvinella: is it 4gb of ram?
[06:33] <elfer_> why not ubuntu 64 bit?
[06:33] <dr_willis> hangdeadman:  that may not be a very good idea. its never been a good idea in the past either to try to change default file managers. It can cause all sorts of weirdness
[06:33] <elfer_> thats just silly
[06:33] <kelvinella> yes 4GB ram
[06:33] <elfer_> 4gm of ram is more than enough
[06:33] <genius> hi dr_willis:
[06:33] <genius> can u help
[06:33] <elfer_> unless you are running a web server
[06:33] <genius> me
[06:33] <Muphrid> if you dont plan to put more ram then theres no reason to put 64bit
[06:33] <hangdeadman> dr_willis: thanks
[06:33] <imgx64> alright, using -f fixed my problem. thanks.
[06:33] <elfer_> thats not the point
[06:33] <dr_willis> genius:  you really havent given much details.. other then 'its not working'
[06:33] <elfer_> even if you have 64 bit
[06:33] <elfer_> anything more than 4-6 gb of ram
[06:33] <elfer_> is not needed
[06:34] <elfer_> unless running a web server from your computer lol
[06:34] <dr_willis> genius:  if your 3d drivers are not working right that can mess up Unity
[06:34] <dr_willis> I always go 64bit on all my 64bit hardware. ;) reguardless of ram.
[06:34] <kelvinella> i thought there are not many softwares for 64 bit os i pick xubuntu 32bit
[06:35] <Muphrid> kelvinella: even if there arent they will run through 32 bit emulation
[06:35] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  these days for most 'common desktop user' people it dosent really matter what you pick.
[06:35] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  its easier for me on my lan. to stick with 64bit on all the machines
[06:35] <Muphrid> apt will fetch the needed libs automagically
[06:36] <kelvinella> ok maybe my next machine i will try 64 bits
[06:36] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  when i was doing a lot of video reencoding and work.. i definatly saw some time saved with 64bit over 32bit.
[06:36] <kelvinella> because i have some specific softwares are 32bit i386 only so i am not sure i can run it in 64 ubuntu
[06:36] <dr_willis> for daily web surfing and email. not so much.
[06:37] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  ive seen very few software these days taht cant run on 64bit. i cant even think of any.
[06:37] <dr_willis> zsnes used tobe one.. but it works now. ;)
[06:37] <kelvinella> maple
[06:37] <dr_willis> never heard of maple.  so no idea
[06:37] <genius> dr_willis: desktop GUI is up and working properly but only taskbar is not visible but rest of the GUI desktop is visible
[06:37] <kelvinella> math software like mathematica or matlab
[06:37] <dr_willis> genius:  what 'taskbar' are you refering to?
[06:38] <kelvinella> does xfig run in 64 bits?
[06:38] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  makes you wonder what they are doing  so weirdly that all this other 32bit stuff works fine...
[06:39] <genius> dr_willis where "application" other status bar icons are present
[06:39] <kelvinella> i mainly use lyx, texmaker, xfig, maple.  dont know if they will work fine in 64 bits
[06:39] <dr_willis> genius:  you see a large row of icons on the left hand side? You are using  the default 'ubuntu' desktop from the login manager?
[06:40] <dr_willis> genius:  and you are using 12.10 ?
[06:41] <dr_willis> !screenshot
[06:41] <genius> dr_willis: No large row is not visible , and yes am using 12.1
[06:41] <kelvinella> is zorin good?  is it really big recently?
[06:41] <Muphrid> actually its a column
[06:41] <dr_willis> if the unity left side is not showing. it may be because your 3d drivers have the system confused.
[06:41] <kelvinella> everybody is talking about zorin os
[06:42] <Muphrid> kelvinella: zorin crashes a lot and it is very easy to make a mistake and delete the awn panel
[06:42] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  we rarely even hear it mentioned in here.. so not everyone is talking about it. ;)
[06:42] <Muphrid> if you have no clue about it
[06:42] <dr_willis> You can install awn on ubuntu :) if you wanted.
[06:43] <kelvinella> just that recently many windows user hates on win8 and switch to zorin os
[06:43] <kelvinella> maybe it looks like windows i dont know
[06:43] <genius> dr_willis: icons are not visible but accessed from the top
[06:43] <Muphrid> kelvinella: yes its intention is to look as close do windows as possible
[06:43] <dr_willis> genius:  that statement makes no sence to me.
[06:43] <Muphrid> to*
[06:44] <dr_willis> genius:  check that your proper video card drivers are installed and see if that helps
[06:44] <Muphrid> genius: is your screen mainly blue, grey, purple or light blue?
[06:44] <dr_willis> a screenshot would be worth 10000 words. ;)
[06:45] <genius> dr_willis: is there any way to open console on ubuntu
[06:45] <genius> on GUI
[06:45] <dr_willis> but a common issue with unity is 3d drivers confused and the unity plugin, or compiz not working right
[06:45] <Muphrid> genius: ctrl alt t
[06:45] <dr_willis> console = alt-ctrl-f1 through f6. F7 for X... a TERMINAL window can be poened with alt-ctrl-t normally
[06:46] <JonnyRo> How well does ubuntu play on Mac hardware? I have tje
[06:47] <dr_willis> JonnyRo:  ive seen lots of people with issues with mac hardware in here.. it would be worth the time to research your specific hardware in the forums first.
[06:47] <JonnyRo> Er, 1.66 ghz mac mini running osx 10.4
[06:47] <kelvinella> last time i try to install ubuntu 12.04 in the laptop, in liveCD the screen is rotated 180 upside down.  what is the problem?
[06:47] <bertieb> righty, g'night all!
[06:48] <dr_willis> kelvinella:  thats interesting.. not heard of that issue befor.
[06:48] <kelvinella> should have taken the screenshot
[06:48] <JonnyRo> Dr_willis, one upside is that as somewhat older hardware it might be better supported. Good advice though, to the forum!
[06:48] <Muphrid> kelvinella: not sure, though you can rotate it back 180 degress in the monitor section in system settings
[06:48] <kelvinella> maybe later weekend when i have time
[06:48] <dr_willis> like a screen shot whould have shown much. ;)
[06:49] <Ineedhelp> I need help!
[06:49] <JonnyRo> Touche
[06:49] <dr_willis> Ineedhelp:  you should state the problem..
[06:49] <JonnyRo> Sounds like a rogue meme
[06:49] <Ineedhelp> I have ubuntu 12.04 installed on my usb flash drive, I try to boot from my new custome build computer, and I get a black screen.
[06:50] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | Ineedhelp
[06:50] <Ineedhelp> Ok.
[06:51] <JonnyRo> I will be using that piece of advice next week
[06:52] <Ineedhelp> I was directed to a link telling me to impliment code into the kernel. Where do I type this code?
[06:53] <dr_willis> at the boot/grub menu.. i thought it even showed screenshots of how to doit...
[06:53] <Ineedhelp> I'm sorry, i'm new to ubuntu, and its 1 am :P
[06:54] <Muphrid> Ineedhelp: check the section How to permanently set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)
[06:54] <Muphrid> on that link
[06:54] <dr_willis> at the grub menu, hit 'e' for edit.. change 'quiet splash' to be 'quiet nomodeset splash'
[06:54] <Ineedhelp> ok
[06:55] <Ineedhelp> Thanks
[06:56] <machicola> Just installed Ubuntu 12.10.. how do I go about switching from unity to gnome type desktop?
[06:56] <dr_willis> !nounity
[06:57] <machicola> thankyou
[06:57] <dr_willis> the gnome-2 type fallback mode has been scheduled to be removed in a future relase.. so far its been kept alive. ;) so dont rely on it being here forever.
[06:57] <dr_willis> If you want an old skool type desktop. you may want to check out xfce, or lxde
[06:58] <dr_willis> and the gnome2 fallback modes are NOT identical to gnome2 there are differances
[07:02] <machicola> what should I pick for my display manage if I'm going with gnome-panel or fallback even? gdm or lightdm?
[07:02] <machicola> manager*
[07:02] <machicola> or does it really matter
[07:02] <Ben64> don't think it matters
[07:02] <machicola> ok thanks
[07:02] <Flynsarmy> jrib: found teh answer to the issue you were helping me with earlier http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/56267/ubuntu-software-raid5-dev-devices-changed-will-mdadm-raid-break incase you were interested
[07:18] <Ineedhelp> Thanks so much guys, you were a big help :)
[07:20] <whiterabbit_> **New to linux** I currently run Windows 7 and run Diablo 3 flawlessly. 60+ fps with High Settings. I would like to move over to Ubuntu for many different reasons and the main thing that's holding me back is that I can not get Diablo 3 to run smoothly.
[07:20] <whiterabbit_> I installed Ubuntu 12.10 and switched from Unity to 'Gnome-Session-Fallback' because I've been reading that Unity has a negative impact on performance. I have upgraded the OS, 'apt-get upgrade' and believe that everything is updated to the fullest. I am using PlayOnLinux v4.1.8 and Wine 1.5.5 patched for Diablo 3. The game installs and appears to run fine. However, when I get in game the fps drops and jumps like crazy. I hav
[07:20] <whiterabbit_> e lowered all of the settings to low except I left the monitor resolution at 1080p. If there are mobs on the screen it drops to about 4 fps and is unplayable. It is not the initial game loading lag. I use all skills in town and I have ran through an entire Alk run with the performance sucking the entire way. :-)
[07:20] <FloodBot1> whiterabbit_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:20] <whiterabbit_> PC Specs
[07:22] <whiterabbit_> Can I get some Guru assistance? http://pastebin.com/R7SrZXwC
[07:23] <Guest21774> hi
[07:23] <Guest21774> everyone
[07:23] <whiterabbit_> hello
[07:29] <jarray52> I'm trying to upgrade my Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, but I don't have the upgrade option in Update Manager. Any suggestions?
[07:29] <lorddelta> So, I realize hibernate doesn't work on some machines...e.g. mine will go to sleep fine, but powering up doesn't work, I have to discard the sdisk data...is Canonical working on this and is there any way I can help? I'm just curious as to the state of work...
[07:30] <lorddelta> jarray52: check the settings
[07:30] <lorddelta> jarray52: you probably need to change the dropdown box from Check for new release "Never" to "Only LTS"
[07:31] <jarray52> lorddelta: Software Sources -> Updates -> Release Upgrade is set to "Long Term Support Releases only".
[07:31] <lorddelta> Sounds right. That's what I have mine set to. Then do a Check, it should let you know you can upgrade...
[07:31] <whiterabbit_> Can I get some help with nvidia drivers from anyone?
[07:32] <jarray52> lorddelta: If I change Software Sources -> Updates -> Release Upgrade to Normal releases, I get the option to upgrade to 10.10. However, that results in a failed to fetch error.
[07:32] <jarray52> lorddelta: I would prefer to do an LTS update.
[07:33] <lorddelta> jarray52: hmm, I can't say for sure (I did non LTS before 12.04), but it sounds like you have a repo problem; I can give you mine if it helps?
[07:33] <kevinlu310> anybody knows how to let Ubuntu 12.04 know the right battery info?
[07:33] <jarray52> lorddelta: That would be helpful.
[07:34] <jarray52> lorddelta: Could you dpaste /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:34] <jarray52> ?
[07:35] <lorddelta> http://pastebin.com/ejPgLmxY
[07:35] <lorddelta> Hope that helps!
[07:36] <lorddelta> There's a bunch of garbage in there, be warned, but my update works fine...
[07:36] <lorddelta> It hails from 9.10 days I believe
[07:36] <lorddelta> that or 10.04
[07:40] <Ineedhelp> I just installed ubuntu, now when I power on my machine, all i get is a flashing cursor.
[07:40] <Fudge> jarray52  look in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[07:41] <lickalott> doesn't sound like you installed it right Ineedhelp
[07:41] <Ineedhelp> I tried ubuntu, clicked install ubuntu, than after the restart, I just get this.
[07:41] <MonkWitDaFunk> maybe the linux kernel.your using cannot detect the hardware
[07:41] <lickalott> do you see the bios post?  or you get the cursor when the OS is supposed to load?
[07:42] <Fudge> and/or can switch to a console, control+alt+f1
[07:42] <Ineedhelp> I get a motherboard screen, than the cursor
[07:42] <MonkWitDaFunk> my acer aspire x1700 has problems running ubuntu 11.10
[07:42] <Ineedhelp> ctrl alt F1 does nothing for me
[07:42] <lickalott> try install again
[07:42] <Ineedhelp> How
[07:42] <Ineedhelp> I cant install again
[07:42] <Fudge> using the cd
[07:43] <lickalott> leave the disc in the tray and reboot the machine, then boot from CD/DVD
[07:43] <Ineedhelp> I have it on a flash drive, I put the flash drive back in and it still gives me the blank screen
[07:43] <Fudge> depending on your motherboard, pusing f12 may option you to boot form usb
[07:43] <lickalott> you don't have a disc tray?
[07:43] <MonkWitDaFunk> did you see the bios post?
[07:43] <Ineedhelp> No
[07:43] <TaraJo> i went to update ubuntu 12.10 and got.. Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12.10.1_all.deb 404  Not Found
[07:43] <Ineedhelp> I just get a strange sound when ever I hit a key
[07:43] <MonkWitDaFunk> is your hardware setting set to show the bios post?
[07:44] <lickalott> get into your boot menu and choose your usb device
[07:44] <MonkWitDaFunk> theres two settings
[07:44] <Ineedhelp> I can't get into my boot menue. It doesn't prompt me
[07:45] <lickalott> with the usb drive installed it gives you the cursor?  have you tried to boot without it in?
[07:45] <Ineedhelp> It gives me a thing that would indicate typing. I have tried with and with out it
[07:46]  * TaraJo needs help.. went to update ubuntu.. and got.. Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12.10.1_all.deb 404 Not Found
[07:46] <TaraJo> and i don't remember what to do
[07:47] <Ineedhelp> Hello!?
[07:47] <MonkWitDaFunk> you have to find a way to boot ubuntu
[07:48] <Ineedhelp> Well how do you suppose I do that.
[07:48] <MonkWitDaFunk> my situation with my.acer should be solved using an lts version of ubuntu
[07:49] <lickalott> whats on the usb drive?  can you plug it into the rig you're on now and see?
[07:49] <MonkWitDaFunk> make sure you have a good power supply, graphics and keyboard
[07:49] <Ineedhelp> Sure
[07:49] <Ririshi> Hey
[07:49] <Ineedhelp> Its called its self Install Ubuntu (E:)
[07:50] <Ririshi> Who could try to help me booting a lubuntu 12.10 image off a USB stick?
[07:50] <MonkWitDaFunk> disconnect the memory and see if you can look at the bios
[07:50] <Ineedhelp> By memory do you mean ram?
[07:51] <Fudge> usually pushing tab makes your computer logo go away and show the writing, the post screen where you are offerred to push delete or f2 usually to enter the bios, often f12 or f8 will give you a one time boot menu to choose your usb device also.
[07:52] <MonkWitDaFunk> do you know what keys.to hit before your motherboard makes a beep?
[07:52] <lorddelta> So anyone know about what's in the line for ubuntu hibernate to come back online? Is it an issue with upower? Specific hardware drivers? It worked in 10.04 fine...
[07:52] <Ineedhelp> No, I just built this rig
[07:52] <Ineedhelp> I'm new to ubuntu, and this is NOT a good start.
[07:53] <Ririshi> Fudge: when I select my USB device, it tells me to remove disks or media and press any key to restart..
[07:53] <lickalott> you don't have a cd/dvd drive you can use?
[07:53] <Fudge> Ineedhelp  have you posted your hardware to the channel so we have an idea, if so i simply missed it?  Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_2.5.11ubuntu12.10.1_all.deb 404  Not Found
[07:54] <TaraJo> and i don't remember how to fix that
[07:54] <lickalott> Ineedhelp
[07:54] <Ineedhelp> Yes the hd was blank, I decided to give ubuntu the full partition.
[07:54] <Ineedhelp> Yes Lickalot
[07:54] <lickalott> but...  either your jumpers aren't right on your drives (if not using SATA) or the usb drive isn't bootable
[07:54] <Fudge> TaraJo  try an apt-get update see if it helps
[07:55] <lickalott> i was answering Ririshi Ineedhelp
[07:55] <Ineedhelp> Ok
[07:55] <MonkWitDaFunk> ineedhelp, try finding out which keys you can hit before the mobo makes a beep or two. :(
[07:55] <Ririshi> oh wow someone talks to me (:
[07:55] <Ineedhelp> MonkWitDaFunk: ok
[07:55] <Ririshi> lickalott: I'm on a netbook and I have no external optical drive ):
[07:56] <lickalott> then your usb drive isn't bootable
[07:56] <Fudge> Ririshi  you want to boot from usb but your pc doesnt recognize it to boot from?
[07:56] <TaraJo> ok, that must of worked, because i didn't get any error messages
[07:56] <MonkWitDaFunk> ineedhelp, are you working on an old computer?
[07:56] <Ineedhelp> No I just built this
[07:56] <Fudge> TaraJo  now try the upgrade or install lintion, what ever gave you the error before
[07:57] <Fudge> MonkWitDaFunk  has Ineedhelp  actually posted the hardware?
[07:57] <Ririshi> Fudge: I can choose it and then it just doesn't see the boot thing or so and it tells me to remove the USB and press any key to reboot..
[07:57] <Ineedhelp> You want the system specs, Ok.
[07:57] <Ririshi> Fudge: so in fact what you just said is correct.
[07:57] <Fudge> Ineedhelp  motherboard for starters mate
[07:58] <Ineedhelp> MSI 760GM-E51 (FX) AM3+ AMD 760G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
[07:58] <Fudge> Ririshi  ive chimed in late here, but has the usb device booted previously and what is on it? how did you put ubuntu on it for example
[07:58] <TaraJo> thanks.. that worked that time
[07:58] <Fudge> cheers TaraJo
[07:58] <MonkWitDaFunk> ineedhelp, drivers are a good thing to think about. the linux kernel can detect whats on a computer bus during installation
[07:58] <TaraJo> okie dokie i see ya.. thanks again :)
[07:58] <Fudge> Ineedhelp I expect when you turn your computer on, push delete key, not backspace until the bios cmos screen comes up
[07:59] <Fudge> please confirm that enters the bios, then look for your boot menu and change boot  order so the usb device which should be inserted to a working usb port, is present as the first boot device
[07:59] <Ririshi> Fudge: it hasn't booted yet, only got this error on here. I put (l)ubuntu on it using Unetbootin, LiLi, Universal USB Installer and Rufus. (I tried them all)
[07:59] <Ineedhelp> Ok switching boot device
[07:59] <MonkWitDaFunk> id look at the bios with the hard disk unplugged ineedhelp
[07:59] <Fudge> ok Ineedhelp
[08:00] <Fudge> Ririshi  any other computer you can test the usb in
[08:00] <Fudge> or external dvd drive
[08:00] <Ririshi> Fudge: not here. I'm in japan at this moment..
[08:01] <Fudge> Ririshi  oh youre travelling... whats on the hard drive
[08:01] <zmanfx> Is there really no channel topic or is my client being funky?
[08:02] <Fudge> zmanfx   /topic #ubuntu
[08:02] <zmanfx> /topic #ubuntu
[08:02] <zmanfx> Yeah
[08:02] <zmanfx> No slash commands ...
[08:02] <Ineedhelp> Ok, I know my gpu has issiues with booting. So what do I need to put between quiet and splash?
[08:03] <Ririshi> Fudge: I'm on win7 now.
[08:03] <Fudge> Ineedhelp  I have an am3 8150 and no problem booting
[08:03] <Fudge> Ririshi  see if you can start wubi from the usb stick and install that way if you want to try it