[12:28] <Amaranth> apparently micheal dell uses automatix
[12:30] <ompaul> silly micheal dell then
[12:30] <mc44> Amaranth: I already larted him, dont worry :)
[12:37] <Madpilot> is it possible to alias timezones? The bot should know 'gmt' and 'zulu' as aliases for 'utc'...
[12:52] <Madpilot> I'm wondering when we'll break 1200 in #ubuntu
[12:52] <Madpilot> have we ever gotten over 1200?
[12:52] <LjL> never seen it myself
[12:52] <mc44> Madpilot: Im thinking of setting up a sweepstake for tomorrow. Peak no. users/number of bans/sexiest op
[12:52] <LjL> except on bot attacks perhaps
[12:52] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: a few hours ago it was slightly over 1200 I think
[12:52] <LjL> mc44: the last one's easy
[12:52] <mc44> LjL: well of course, my vote is for you :)
[01:29] <ShaLaptop> Hello
[01:29] <jrib> hi
[01:29] <ShaLaptop> I'm here for know more about the Ratshell problem
[01:30] <ShaLaptop> I created an unfliated channel called #ubuntuhelp, with the rule to say on the thread we aren't affliated, and we don't advertise of this channel into the official ones
[01:30] <ShaLaptop> but, aparently, this channel will be droped because of someoen called Ratshell
[01:31] <ShaLaptop> on my knowledge, banned of the official chans
[01:31] <ShaLaptop> So i stay neutral on this story, i just want know what going on as owner of the unfliated channel
[01:32] <nalioth> ShaLaptop: you might have to idle here for an answer
[01:33] <nalioth> i DO know ratshell was banned from many of the #*buntu* channels for spamming your channel in them
[01:33] <nalioth> i also know he evaded those bans
[01:33] <ShaLaptop> :/ blackhat i guess ?
[01:33] <ShaLaptop> anyway, i have all my time and will wait here for a reply
[01:34] <ShaLaptop> anyway, if this person spam my channel name on the official forum, i want him ejected deffinitly
[01:34] <ShaLaptop> i can't accept that
[01:59] <PriceChild> Amaranth, so cruel :)
[01:59] <Amaranth> PriceChild: :D
[02:01] <ubotu> jacobmp92 called the ops in #ubuntu-ohio
[02:21] <ubotu> In #ubuntu+1, concept10 said: ubotu, topic is Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains essential information, including release status.  To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[02:21] <gnomefreak> ShaLaptop: may i help you?
[02:27] <PriceChild> haah
[02:28] <PriceChild> Arwen/anon32 just requested an unban in +1. I told him to come back again later as it'd only been 5 or 6 hours
[02:33] <gnomefreak> hes still getting himself banned?
[02:33] <nalioth> gnomefreak: you know it's addictive . . . .
[02:44] <Linuturk> can I get that DCC test real quick? I'd like to test my home router for the vulnerability
[02:44] <nalioth> Linuturk: join #linuturk please
[02:44] <Linuturk> thanks nalioth
[02:44] <nalioth> welcome
[02:44] <Linuturk> must be isolated to the network at work
[03:02] <Amaranth> Alright, someone else take over
[03:02] <Amaranth> :)
[03:02] <Vorian> hehe
[03:20] <gnomefreak> im off to bed these uploads can wait till morning i guess
[04:27] <effie_jayx> god reading #ubuntu is tought.... lot's of letters flying round all the time
[04:27] <effie_jayx> hehe
[04:33] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Yeah, I'm reading my /away log and it's far from ideal, and in anticipation of tomorrow I'm hoping to clear up some of the more common little issues.
[05:12] <Jordan_U> You might want to perma-ban ufuktu ( #ubuntu )
[05:12] <Madpilot> has it been trolling elsewhere?
[05:14] <Madpilot> ... stupid season is really opening up in #ubuntu... I'd had six months to block out the terrible memory of #ubuntu on release day...
[05:14] <elkbuntu> shall we take bets on what the usercount will hit?
[05:15] <Madpilot> I'm thinking it'll top 1200 in the next two hours
[05:16] <effie_jayx> you guys are mean... hehehe
[05:16] <effie_jayx> keeping us in great expectation :D
[05:17] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, i think we could even hit 1350-1400 at some point
[05:18] <elkbuntu> but probably post-release
[05:18] <elkbuntu> 50 of which will probably be trolls or sleepers
[05:28] <ajmitch> hm
[05:28] <ajmitch> who magically added me to an ops list? :)
[05:28] <Madpilot>  #ubuntu-release-party?
[05:28] <ajmitch> yeah
[05:28] <Madpilot> huh?
[05:28] <ajmitch> I see tonyyarusso registered it a few minutes ago
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, that'd be me.
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> I mentioned the idea last night to Hobbsee, thought it might be a good way to keep the main channels support-oriented while everyone goes all "OMG, is it out yet?"
[05:30] <ajmitch> you haven't seen the forums
[05:30] <ajmitch> "does anyone have mark shuttleworth's phone number?"
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> True - haven't spent as much time on the forums as most
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> Actually, I _do_ have Mark's phone number......
[05:30] <ajmitch> yeah I probably have it somewhere as well
[05:31] <ajmitch> lots of people thought feisty *must* be released at exactly midnight GMT
[05:31] <ajmitch> since that's what the fridge said
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> He wrote it on a whiteboard while giving a talk once, which I then found in .ogg format later.
[05:32] <ajmitch> yep
[05:32] <ajmitch> I remember being with someone as we called him, too...
[05:32] <ajmitch> one night in montreal, at the end of UDS :)
[05:33] <Madpilot> Ubuntu Drinking Session?
[05:33] <ajmitch> very close to it...
[05:34] <ajmitch> you should have seen how hungover some of them were on the *first* day
[05:34] <xblackfire> with who I must speak to have logs in my channel #ubuntu-ni ?
[05:34] <ubotu> In ubotu, tonyyarusso said: releaseparty is <reply> Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels.  To countdown to Feisty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - for in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseParties
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> %login
[05:35] <xblackfire> somebody knows ?
[05:35] <Madpilot> xblackfire, you need one of the locobots to join your channel
[05:35] <stdin> xblackfire: from /whois ubuntulog: [04:35]  [Whois]  ubuntulog is i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog (Ubuntu log bot:: contact<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:36] <xblackfire> locobot or ubuntulog ?
[05:37] <Madpilot> afaik locobot is the logging bot for local channels; ubuntulog is for the main channels (but I might be wrong...)
[05:38] <xblackfire> locobot then
[05:38] <stdin> xblackfire: best to ask in #ubuntu-bots
[05:39] <xblackfire> ok
[05:39] <xblackfire> thanks for the help
[06:03] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, nice preemptive bans in #ubuntu
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: I had pre-emptive hilights from yesterday, he confirmed the suspicion
[06:05] <ajmitch> today wouldn't be a good day for me to return
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> It'd be a lovely day!   Do we need a doctor to remove the foot from your mouth?
[06:23] <nixternal> I am really nixternal's brother, he walked away and didn't lock his screen, that shold teach him
[06:23] <Amaranth> Nice try. :)
[06:23] <nixternal> hahaha
[06:23] <nixternal> damn
[06:24] <effie_jayx> hehe
[06:24] <nixternal> lemme guess, this chan is logged
[06:24] <effie_jayx> nixternal,  you betcha
[06:24] <ajmitch> a shame, really
[06:25] <Amaranth> and if someone gets kicked ubotu will keep a log too ;)
[06:56] <mneptok> hey! nixternal has joined me at the edge of decency!
[06:57] <nixternal> what?
[06:57] <nixternal> lol
[07:04] <ajmitch> mneptok!!
[07:09] <effie_jayx> hehe
[07:13] <ajmitch> tonyyarusso: ping (#u-r-p ops list)
[07:14] <ajmitch> can you add mithrandir to the list please?
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> ajmitch: done
[07:14] <ajmitch> thanks
[08:39] <atoponce> jenda_: ping
[08:41] <elkbuntu> we need ubotu in there
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> That'd be good.
[08:43] <elkbuntu> Seveas, you're supposed to be awake now. give us ubotu in #ubuntu-release-party kthxbai
[08:45] <Madpilot> @now Amsterdam
[08:45] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Amsterdam: April 19 2007, 08:45:06 - Next meeting: Development Team in 8 hours 14 minutes
[08:45] <elkbuntu> see.. he should be awake
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> Welcome to insanity Hobbsee
[08:49] <Madpilot> Ah, the Hobbsee arriveth.
[08:49] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, are most of the trolls there rather than #ubuntu or are they trolling both?
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: #ubuntu's actually doing well :)
[08:50] <Hobbsee> heh
[08:51] <elkbuntu> yeah, i notice
[08:51] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, ask payan to redirect that channel to #ubuntu-release-party
[08:51] <Hobbsee> troll heaven, today?
[08:51] <Madpilot> 1184 in #ubuntu - we're edging closer to 1200...
[08:53] <mneptok> 1187
[08:53] <elkbuntu> !staff
[08:53] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[08:53] <elkbuntu> time for some forced redirection >:]
[08:53] <Hobbsee> wow
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> #ubuntu-release-party2 as well
[08:53] <Hobbsee> hi mneptok
[08:54] <mneptok> 'allo sweetness.
[08:54] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, someone grabbing random channel names?
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: yeah
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> That staff factoid should be smart enough to tell them who called it for the /away log
[08:59] <elkbuntu> as usual, nobody in /stats p
[08:59] <Hobbsee> of coruse, yes
[08:59] <Hobbsee> it's australian day
[09:02] <Madpilot> 1191
[09:03] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: you *must* remember that the staff are never around when absolutely needed, if it's australian day
[09:03] <Hobbsee> even christel is away
[09:03] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, i know. we need australian staff, but i have no desire to be one of those
[09:03] <Hobbsee> heh
[09:03] <elkbuntu> i quite enjoy the shred of sanity i still have
[09:04] <mneptok> it keeps her from amryying me.
[09:04] <mneptok> *marrying
[09:05] <elkbuntu> hahaha
[09:08] <Hobbsee> hahahha
[09:08] <Hobbsee> elky, sane?
[09:09] <tonyyarusso> 1203
[09:09] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, i didnt say completely. i do still have one thread left
[09:09] <Hobbsee> :P
[09:10] <elkbuntu> man i love local mirrors
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> I'm going to grab a quick nap/short sleep - keep an eye on things all.
[09:11] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: heh.  stay up, and keep telling them that it's all a conspiracy
[09:11] <Hobbsee> that there is no release
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> hehe
[09:12] <Hobbsee> hahah :D
[09:12] <elkbuntu> and Hobbsee continues to try make n00bs cry
[09:13] <elkbuntu> ooh, btw, #ubuntu broke 1200
[09:13] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: :D
[09:50] <Seveas> elkbuntu, I was indeed awake, but you don't want to know what I was doing :)
[09:50] <Seveas> @join #ubuntu-release-party
[09:50] <Seveas> @login
[09:50] <Seveas> @join #ubuntu-release-party
[09:50] <elkbuntu> i think i do now
[09:50] <elkbuntu> lol
[09:50] <Seveas> elkbuntu, are you sure?
[09:50] <elkbuntu> i dont want to know if i am or not
[09:51] <Seveas> heh, then I won't say :)
[10:11] <elkbuntu> Seveas, we've been being lax in terms of banning in there purely so they stay there rather than go to one of the other main channels
[10:11] <Seveas> true, but some small actions let people know we're there and keeping an eye on them
[10:12] <Seveas> not planning to make those bans last
[10:12] <elkbuntu> yep righto
[10:13] <elkbuntu> we'd just been /cs k ing them
[10:14] <Madpilot> need sleep
[10:14] <Madpilot> when #ubuntu hits 1337 users, someone take a screenshot for me. :)
[10:15] <elkbuntu> will do
[10:15] <elkbuntu> will try to
[10:20] <mc44> #ubuntu-release-party is a stroke a genius :)
[10:22] <elkbuntu> no kidding
[10:22] <elkbuntu> thank tony
[10:35] <elkbuntu> Seveas, dont forget to clear the bans
[10:40] <elkbuntu> mneptok, objections to clearing the ban list?
[10:41] <mneptok> elkbuntu: none
[10:41] <mneptok> elkbuntu: and i trust your judgement implicitly. feel free whenever, AFAIC. :)
[10:43] <elkbuntu> afk, i've been watching that channel for hours now. i need a smoke
[10:44] <mc44> elkbuntu: and some sedatives :)
[10:49] <gouki> I have to admit I got a little scare right now on #ubuntu-release-party
[10:49] <gouki> *scared
[10:49] <mc44> "if digg had an irc channel"
[10:50] <gouki> Heheh
[10:53] <elkbuntu> and now some dinner
[10:54] <elkbuntu> tell them they're not allowed to release yet 'cos i'll miss out otherwise :-P
[10:54] <mc44> be quick!
[11:11] <ubotu> orbin called the ops in #ubuntu
[11:17] <elkbuntu> wheee i didnt miss it
[11:21] <Jucato> hehe :)
[11:22] <jenda> atoponce: pong
[11:22] <jenda> Seveas, mneptok, why the @ in #ubuntu-release-party?
[11:22] <Seveas> I'm kicking a lot
[11:22] <mc44> jenda: because its insane in there? :)
[11:24] <jenda> okeydoke :)
[11:29] <elkbuntu> jenda, keep an eye on clones in #ubuntu please
[11:33] <mneptok> jenda: ping
[11:33] <jenda> pong
[11:33] <jenda> will try
[11:34] <jenda> though can't promise - catching up
[11:35] <mneptok> jenda: could you remove MShuttleworth?
[11:35] <jenda> hmm
[11:35] <mneptok> someone is impersonating Mark
[11:35] <jenda> I'll try
[11:35] <mneptok> thanks
[11:39] <elkbuntu> i missed 1337 :(
[11:39] <elkbuntu> Seveas, send me your screeny? kthxbai
[11:39] <Seveas> will do
[11:39] <elkbuntu> thanks dear
[11:40] <mc44> elkbuntu: http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotqa6.png :)
[11:44] <gouki> Seveas, I don't think they understood it (-release-party). They still believe it's out.
[11:45] <mc44> theyve been thinking that for the past 12 hours
[11:45] <Gartra1> ok, im here
[11:46] <Jucato> Seveas: customer for you ^^^^
[11:47] <Gartra1> i wish i could be as cheery as you, Jucato
[11:48] <Gartra1> Seveas, my comp sucks, im running like 119 megs off of 2x256 modules, and a 1.7 ghrt celeron, i dont exeactly have enough resources to run firefox
[11:48] <Seveas> Gartra1, you're going to have to wait until aftr release
[11:49] <Seveas> too busy now to deal with flooders in an appropriate manner
[11:49] <Gartra1> all i was trying to do was fix my system so i could update too!
[11:50] <Gartra1> i wasnt trying to flood either, someone didnt see what i had posted, its all in the logs
[11:51] <ajmitch> madness...
[11:51] <ajmitch> elkbuntu: so do we take the closest time from the release mail? :)
[11:51] <elkbuntu> ajmitch, i guess so
[11:51] <Gartra1> and btw, the command you gave me before didnt work, it returned the SAME error
[11:51] <mc44> elkbuntu: aww there was a sweepstake :(
[11:52] <elkbuntu> mc44, hmm?
[11:52] <elkbuntu> i already predicted between 1350 and 1400
[11:52] <mc44> UTC? :)
[11:53] <elkbuntu> no, users in #ubuntu
[11:53] <mc44> elkbuntu: ah :)
[11:53] <elkbuntu> i forgot about the time one
[11:53] <mc44> ajmitch: I think you will be about right
[11:53] <ajmitch> seems like it could be that way
[11:54] <ajmitch> the forum thread on the release has almost 1200 posts
[11:54] <Gartra1> aww come n, all i want to do is update, and my comp is busted
[11:54] <mc44> haha
[11:54] <ajmitch> s/1200/1300/
[11:54] <apokryphos> woah
[11:54] <ajmitch> yeah
[11:54] <ajmitch> I was reading it earlier when it was only a few pages
[11:55] <apokryphos> never underestimate the power of hype 8)
[11:56] <mc44> and hyperactive users :)
[11:57] <ajmitch> fanboys
[11:57] <gouki> "4 min to release ?" Where do they get this!? :|
[11:57] <Gartra1> espesially hyperactive angry users (hint hint)
[11:58] <elkbuntu> Seveas, didnt you ask for MShuttleworth in -r-p to be removed?
[11:58] <elkbuntu> nm he renamed again
[11:58] <Gartra1> i dont understand, i got banned for using the room for what its for!
[11:59] <gouki> Gartra1, Sevea_s already asked you to wait. From what I understood, you got banned because you pasted text.
[11:59] <elkbuntu> Gartra1, nothing in 'await news' involves insulting an op either
[12:00] <Gartra1> yea, because my comp is crap and wont run a web browser
[12:00] <Gartra1> i pasted the error because some one had asked
[12:01] <jenda> Seveas!
[12:01] <Seveas> jenda,!
[12:01] <jenda> Seveas: the pastebin still doesn't support unicode :(
[12:01] <Seveas> -EBLEH
[12:01] <jenda> Which means I can't use it right now :/
[12:01] <jenda> (making corrections to the new ubuntu.cz
[12:01] <jenda> )
[12:02] <Gartra1> i dont understand, why am i being punished for this? its not even my fault
[12:03] <gouki> Gartra1, you should have used http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to paste your text
[12:04] <Gartra1> MY COMP WONT RUN A WEB BROWSER WITHOUT CRASHING! there, i spelled it out, nyone can understand now that my comp SUCKS
[12:05] <Gartra1> its truely easyer just to paste from terminal in gaim, then it is to load mozilla and go to that site
[12:05] <Gartra1> and easyer to read too
[12:07] <Gartra1> may i get a response so i know every human being in this room knows that im too poor too afford a ram module?
[12:09] <Gartra1> great, now im being ignored, what a great day im having... ill probably get fired or killed... killed if im lucky
[12:10] <gouki> Dude, relax!
[12:44] <Gartra1> yes
[12:44] <mneptok> we can expect you not to paste?
[12:44] <Gartra1> yes
[12:45] <mneptok> you are unbanned
[12:45] <mneptok> #u-r-p
[12:45] <Gartra1> THANK YOU!
[12:45] <Gartra1> man, i want to kiss you right now...
[12:45] <mneptok> no you don't
[12:46] <mc44> @lart 37 Gartra1
[12:46] <mneptok> my breath smells like something died in my mouth
[12:46] <mc44> but he looks hot!
[12:46] <mneptok> Gartra1: open a terminal
[12:46] <mneptok> w3m http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:46] <mneptok> there ya go.
[12:46] <Gartra1> waait
[12:46] <Gartra1> i cant open a web browser
[12:46] <Gartra1> pm me
[12:47] <mneptok> Gartra1: open a terminal
[12:47] <mneptok> w3m http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:47] <mneptok> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[12:47] <mneptok> type that. hit <return>
[12:47] <Gartra1> ok
[12:47] <Gartra1> i see
[12:47] <mneptok> now you can use pastebin
[12:47] <Gartra1> can i set a hot key for that?
[12:47] <mneptok> no GUI browser required
[12:48] <Gartra1> is there a way i can quickly recall that command?
[12:48] <mneptok> echo alias\ pastebin\=\'w3m\ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org\' >> .profile
[12:49] <mneptok> then just type "pastebin" (no quotes) in any terminal
[12:49] <mneptok> just type it in a terminal
[12:49] <mneptok> :)
[12:51] <Gartra1> cool
[12:51] <Gartra1> linux rules :))
[12:52] <mneptok> yes. yes it does.
[12:52] <Gartra1> um
[12:52] <Gartra1> it didnt work
[12:52] <mneptok> you'll need to start a new X session
[12:52] <Gartra1> ohh, ok
[12:52] <mneptok> logout/login or somesuch
[12:52] <mc44> mneptok: just the terminal surely?
[12:52] <Gartra1> wait, as in relog?
[12:52] <mneptok> .profile gets sourced when X starts
[12:53] <mc44> ah not bash_
[12:53] <Gartra1> ohh, ok, brb
[12:53] <mneptok> mc44: bash env files get tricky now that dash is the default
[12:53] <mneptok> (e.g. .bash_profile is never sourced)
[12:53] <mc44> yeah
[12:55] <Gartra1> uhh, im still not unbanned, and the pastebin command didnt work >.>
[12:56] <mneptok> 06:55 -!-  Just not in that channel
[01:02] <nalioth> Gartra1: if you would not paste in the channel . . .
[01:02] <Gartra1> (uhg) my comp sucks
[01:02] <Gartra1> im sorry
[01:03] <gouki> Gartra1, half the people on Freenode already know your computer sucks
[01:03] <Gartra1> and im not unbanned from ubuntu
[01:04] <Gartra1> point taken?
[01:05] <gouki> Point taken 2 hours ago
[01:05] <Gartra1> i swear, im going to jump off a bridge or something
[01:06] <Gartra1> ohh, isnt stateing anger at someone/thing considered free speech?
[01:08] <Gartra1> seveas, wouls it help if i said i was sorry?
[01:10] <Gartra1> xus i will... if you want
[01:10] <Gartra1> all i want is to come join the party, and fix my comp
[01:10] <Gartra1> (or should that be "paperwaight"?)
[01:11] <Gartra1> mneptok, pastebin still isnt working
[01:13] <Gartra1> someone?
[01:13] <nalioth> Gartra1: please stop.  there are DOZENS upon DOZENS of pastebin site.  pick one.
[01:14] <Gartra1> mozilla crashes if its idol for 1 min on google
[01:14] <Gartra1> all i have is terminal right now
[01:16] <Gartra1> you know, i started useing ubuntu because i heard it had a great community, and was a easy to use linux, and in my case so far, youve all failed miserably at both jobs
[01:17] <jrib> "jobs"
[01:17] <gouki> Finally!
[01:17] <mc44> jrib: you mean you didnt get your salary?
[01:18] <ubotu> In #ubuntu+1, kbrooks said: !shipit is inaccurate
[01:18] <ubotu> In #ubuntu+1, kbrooks said: !shipit is um needs update for 7.04 please :-)
[01:19] <jrib> Gartra1: /join #flood    Then you can paste in there
[01:19] <Gartra1> no
[01:20] <jrib> Gartra1: how come?
[01:20] <jrib> !shipit
[01:20] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[01:23] <Gartra1> i had pasted an error in the ubuntu main, and someone asked me to repeat it, wich i did, then i get banned
[01:26] <mc44> \o/ 1400
[01:26] <Gartra1> ??
[01:30] <Myrtti> Gartra1: do - not - paste - stuff - to - #ubuntu
[01:30] <Gartra1> i didnt know
[01:30] <Gartra1> ok
[01:31] <mneptok> Myrtti: terve.
[01:31] <AmyRose> Why was I banned from #ubuntu-release-party?
[01:31] <Myrtti> you must've noticed there's a lot of traffic at #ubuntu, so you don't need to add to it by pasting stuff there
[01:31] <Gartra1> mneptok: wait, the pastebin thing isnt working
[01:31] <Myrtti> you can use either pastebin services and paste the url, or use #flood
[01:31] <Myrtti> THE pastebin?
[01:32] <Myrtti> I know atleast 4 different pastebin services
[01:32] <Myrtti> surely not all of them aren't working
[01:32] <Gartra1> he showed me how to get pastebin by using w3m in terminal
[01:32] <Myrtti> if it doesn't work, then use the irc channel #flood
[01:32] <AmyRose> Why was I banned from #ubuntu-release-party?
[01:33] <mneptok> Gartra1: what happens when you type "pastebin" (no quotes) in a terminal?
[01:33] <Gartra1> error: command not found
[01:33] <mneptok> what is the exact error message?
[01:33] <mneptok> OK.
[01:33] <mneptok> is X running?
[01:33] <Gartra1> yes, i restarted it too
[01:33] <mneptok> cat ~/.profile
[01:34] <mneptok> do you see the alias line in there?
[01:34] <Gartra1> theres two
[01:34] <mneptok> what shell do you use?
[01:35] <Gartra1> Bourne Again
[01:35] <mneptok> echo alias\ pastebin\=\'w3m\ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org\' >> ~/.bashrc
[01:35] <mneptok> then start a new bash instance.
[01:35] <mneptok> must go. have to be home before release finalizes.
[01:35] <Gartra1> YAY!
[01:36] <mneptok> bbiab
[01:36] <Gartra1> ty
[01:36] <mneptok> np. enjoy.
[01:36] <Gartra1> hey
[01:36] <Gartra1> 'fore you go, how do i get the url?
[01:38] <PriceChild> Seveas, that is quite cool...
[01:39] <Seveas> it is
[01:39] <PriceChild> uuu i have ops in -release-
[01:39] <Gartra1> how do i get the url in w3m?
[01:39] <mc44> Seveas: who are the first three?
[01:40] <Gartra1> seveas, can you unban me now so i can get out of your hair?
[01:41] <Seveas> Gartra1, no chance, not with the way you behave
[01:42] <Gartra1> but i have the pastebin prob mostly resolved, and once i answer the qwestion of how to save stuff to the sit through paste bin, and getting the url, i can start fixing my comp, and upgradeing it.
[01:43] <Gartra1> ohh, found paste
[01:46] <Gartra1> uhh.. pastebin is complaining that im spamming it >->
[01:48] <Gartra1> it also say enable java script
[01:49] <Gartra1> wow
[01:49] <jenda> Seveas: why are the 7.04 images already available at releases.?
[01:49] <Gartra1> w3m is slow on my system
[01:49] <Seveas> jenda, so mirrors can download them
[01:49] <jenda> good
[01:51] <mc44> jenda: ITS NOT OUT YET!!!!!!111!! :p
[01:51] <jenda> mc44: ssshhhh!
[01:52] <Gartra1> seveas, im sorry
[01:54] <Gartra1> if i cant be unbanned, cant i at least have some help?
[01:55] <Gartra1> please?
[01:55] <Myrtti> Gartra1: ask for the people you want to see your paste to go to #flood (/join #flood), do so yourself, and paste the stuff to that channel
[01:56] <Gartra1> no, i know that
[01:56] <Gartra1> i need help with my comp
[01:56] <Gartra1> are you in flood?
[01:57] <Myrtti> no, because I'm not particularly intrested at the moment to help random people when I've got my own stuff to work out to
[01:57] <Gartra1> right
[02:01] <effie_jayx> Gartra1,  have you tried #ubuntu
[02:02] <Gartra1> i am banned from ubuntu
[02:03] <effie_jayx> awhhh
[02:03] <apokryphos> Gartra1: /topic
[02:03] <apokryphos> Gartra1: this doesn't become the right place for support once you're banned from #ubuntu
[02:03] <Gartra1> im not a total idiot
[02:04] <Gartra1> i just dont want to fall behind everyone else
[02:04] <apokryphos> Ok, then stop asking for support/help here
[02:05] <Gartra1> sorry, sheesh
[02:05] <Gartra1> excuse me for being a noob
[02:10] <Gartra1> ok, jrib, thank you. i have fixed my comp! at least the software probs, now... can i please be unbanned so i can join the party?
[02:11] <jrib> Gartra1: you aren't banned from the party
[02:11] <Gartra1> yes i am...
[02:11] <Gartra1> or, i was
[02:12] <Gartra1> what was that party channel name again?
[02:12] <jenda> #ubuntu-release-party
[02:12] <gouki> #ubuntu-release-party
[02:12] <Gartra1> YAY
[02:12] <mc44> #ubuntu-650-people-being-ccccrazy
[02:13] <effie_jayx> mc44,  I thought it was #ubuntu-630-trolls-and-the-rest-are-just-brave-ops
[02:13] <mc44> probably :)
[02:15] <tonyyarusso> I'm back, btw
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> 1463?!?  (in #ubuntu )
[02:17] <jrib> irssi is annoying... does anyone else always get Irssi: Channel not fully synchronized yet, try again after a while  when using /unban ?
[02:18] <apokryphos> jrib: it's a bug, there's info about it on their page somewhere
[02:18] <jrib> yeah, it's on the faq but there's no real solution
[02:19] <apokryphos> yeah, they basically say 'this is apparently a bug and we're not sure'
[02:19] <jrib> maybe it's just the size of #ubuntu
[02:19] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, look at your channel :D
[02:19] <apokryphos> nah, I've seen others have it who are only in smaller channels
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: I've noticed, it's a tad larger than when I went to bed.
[02:19] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, just a wee bit
[02:19] <elkbuntu> it's been crazy
[02:19] <gnomefreak> omg that channel is hell on earth
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: But #ubuntu's not, eh?
[02:20] <gouki> What are those guys on? They look like monkeys on crack.
[02:20] <mc44> tonyyarusso: #ubuntu is incredibly sane by comparison
[02:20] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-release-party == everyone in htere talking at once
[02:22] <apokryphos> just /cs clear users #ubuntu-release-party ;)
[02:26] <Seveas> !staff
[02:26] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[02:26] <Amaranth> 1400....
[02:27] <effie_jayx> wow
[02:27] <apokryphos> I'm actually hoping that some of these people do not stick around ;)
[02:27] <Gartra1> im still not unbanned in ubuntu main
[02:27] <Seveas> Amaranth, 3rd largest channel on the planet :)
[02:27] <Seveas> Gartra1, and you won't be anytime soon
[02:27] <Gartra1> WHY?
[02:27] <apokryphos> Gartra1: so please stop repeating
[02:27] <Amaranth> Seveas: where are 1st and 2nd?
[02:27] <Seveas> Amaranth, dalnet and zurna
[02:28] <Amaranth> meh, they don't count ;)
[02:28] <Seveas> ah no, zurna and webchat :)
[02:28] <mc44> Number two looks fake to me
[02:28] <Seveas> we bat all dalnt channels already
[02:28] <elkbuntu> Seveas, what are the other two larger?
[02:28] <Seveas> mc44, just different charset
[02:28] <Seveas> http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/top100.php
[02:28] <mc44> Seveas: there are no other charsets :p
[02:28] <Seveas> jedi44
[02:29] <mc44> :)
[02:32] <elkbuntu> hmmm.. i dont see ubuntu in that list.. does freenode not get checked by them?
[02:34] <Seveas> correct
[02:35] <elkbuntu> well thats silly
[02:39] <apokryphos> that's it, I'm going into Rehab
[02:40] <Amaranth> Seveas: so when gusty is released we'll have the largest IRC channel on the planet?
[02:40] <Seveas> gutsy
[02:40] <Seveas> and yeah :)
[02:40] <Amaranth> no, i like my way
[02:40] <Amaranth> :P
[02:41] <Seveas> 4th biggest now
[02:41] <Amaranth> just like 'fisty' ;)
[02:41] <elkbuntu> Seveas, am i right in thinking that this is the strongest anticipation to a release evah?
[02:41] <Seveas> #evil caught up
[02:41] <Seveas> elkbuntu, yeah
[02:41] <Seveas> gets worse very release
[02:41] <Seveas> every*
[02:41] <apokryphos> without a doubt
[02:41] <elkbuntu> Seveas, #ubuntu seriously has like 300 more than edgy
[02:41] <Hobbsee> we released yet?
[02:42] <Seveas> no
[02:42] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, nope
[02:42] <PriceChild> haha
[02:42] <apokryphos> #ubuntu also goes +200 up or so every release
[02:42] <apokryphos> but that increases too
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> are we up to Apple levels of release insanity yet?  ;)
[02:42] <elkbuntu> you didnt miss it dear :)
[02:42] <apokryphos> (as in, after the hype is down)
[02:42] <Hobbsee> wow, wonder why not...
[02:43] <gnomefreak> almost at 1500 in #ubuntu
[02:43] <Amaranth> #ubuntu-release-party is nuts
[02:43] <Hobbsee> yep
[02:43] <Amaranth> I'm just going to start autokicking anyone being stupid
[02:43] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, yes.. and its only in 1 channel :D
[02:43] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: earlier we had the developers opd, so people could see who was official, and who wasnt
[02:44] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: i've been doing that already
[02:44] <gnomefreak> are we closing #ubuntu+1 (from what i heard gutsy repos will open (not so much of alpha useage but open) in a today tomorrowish
[02:44] <elkbuntu> dont ban unless they're recidivist
[02:44] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: once feisty is announced, yeah
[02:44] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, closing + 1 already?
[02:45] <elkbuntu> ah right
[02:45] <elkbuntu> wait for the announce
[02:45] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: ok
[02:45] <apokryphos> otherwise they'll just get the wrong idea...again
[02:45] <elkbuntu> yep
[02:45] <Hobbsee> s/opd/op'd/
[02:45] <gnomefreak> they did that 5 months into feisty
[02:45] <gnomefreak> that will never change :)
[02:46] <Amaranth> I'm going to kick everyone posting 'proof' that feisty is out
[02:46] <_P_i_R_A_N_i_A_> i thought i had it
[02:46] <_P_i_R_A_N_i_A_> ><
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth: Muting will let them see the annc when it really is, while keeping them out of our hair.  ?
[02:48] <_P_i_R_A_N_i_A_> plz unban me from #ubuntu-release-party ;)
[02:48] <_P_i_R_A_N_i_A_> :D
[02:48] <jenda> Seveas: still need something?
[02:48] <apokryphos> _P_i_R_A_N_i_A_: please choose a less spammy name
[02:48] <apokryphos> tonyyarusso: but then we'll have loads of people muted, sometimes for honest mistakes
[02:48] <gnomefreak> and dont spam the channel with links
[02:48] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:48] <PiRANiA> ;)
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> apokryphos: Yeah, but that's not deadly
[02:49] <PiRANiA> unban plz? :)
[02:49] <gnomefreak> PiRANiA: that is from what i saw why you were banned and i doubt Seveas will lift it this fast (just my thoughts)
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> 1500.
[02:49] <apokryphos> PiRANiA: please stop repeating
[02:50] <PiRANiA> ;)
[02:50] <PiRANiA> actually, i dont give a ****, bye all ;)
[02:50] <Amaranth> holy shit we're going to break 1500
[02:50] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth: done already
[02:51] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, by the time america wakes up fully, maybe even 1600 or 1700
[02:51] <elkbuntu> ya nevah know
[02:51] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: consistently
[02:51] <Amaranth> elkbuntu: they're waking up now
[02:51] <Hobbsee> eek, scary thought
[02:51] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, i know
[02:51] <Amaranth> run!
[02:51] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth: righto
[02:51] <elkbuntu> Hobbsee, i'm scaaared.. hold meee :-/
[02:51] <Hobbsee> elkbuntu: 2 weeks :)
[02:51] <elkbuntu> yay :D
[02:52] <mc44> just wait till people from release party actually start installing :)
[02:53] <Seveas> @lart mc44
[02:53] <Amaranth> apokryphos: is that a hint?
[02:53] <apokryphos> Amaranth: sure :P
[02:53] <Amaranth> oh, we're on permanent babysitting mode today
[02:53] <apokryphos> yeah
[02:53] <gnomefreak> all day im sure
[02:54] <PriceChild> Amaranth, there you go ;)
[02:54] <gnomefreak> its only 2pm UTC atm give or take
[02:54] <Amaranth> w00t
[02:54] <mc44> gnomefreak: its 1 utc
[02:54] <gnomefreak> oh ok 1 utc than ;)
[02:55] <mc44> damn summer time
[02:55] <Amaranth> Ubuntu 7.04 is not yet out. Please don't ask when it'll be released, we don't know either.
[02:55] <Amaranth> everyone make an alias for that or something :P
[02:55] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, it'd be done before 5pm utc
[02:55] <gnomefreak> thought it said somehting like that in topic
[02:56] <gnomefreak> elkbuntu: it will?
[02:56] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: shouldnt be that long
[02:56] <PriceChild> Amaranth, chop the "we don't know either." off ;)
[02:56] <Hobbsee> Amaranth: what if we do know?
[02:56] <gnomefreak> lol'
[02:56] <Hobbsee> or know why it's being delayed, anyway...
[02:56] <mc44> cjwatson said they were having probs with some mirrors
[02:56] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, no idea, but it's pretty safe to assume
[02:56] <gnomefreak> we all know that
[02:57] <elkbuntu> mc44, because they have an extra few thousand people raping the pipes
[02:57] <jenda> is it ok to start torrenting already? It might help the uploads later...
[02:57] <mc44> elkbuntu: that could be something to do with it
[02:57] <Hobbsee> jenda: go for it
[02:57] <mc44> jenda: the trackers are deliberatly off
[02:57] <mc44> until the announce
[02:57] <Hobbsee> the hold up, at the moment, is due to the website not being able to cope with the load
[02:57] <elkbuntu> i might as well download for torrenting sake too
[02:58] <jenda> hmm
[02:58] <jenda> mc44: it says they're off, but it DL's anyway
[02:58] <elkbuntu> isp bandwidth-free zones == awesome
[02:58] <gnomefreak> get yesterdays daily ISO and call it released
[02:58] <jenda> mc44: it even stopped saying that now... seems it's on
[02:59] <mc44> jenda: hmm maybe release is imminent :p
[02:59] <jenda> hehe
[02:59] <jenda> maybe
[02:59] <Seveas> hmm
[02:59] <Seveas> dc.c attack and only a few people were killed
[02:59] <Seveas> nice
[03:01] <jenda> haha...
[03:01] <jenda> mc44: it also jumped from 3 seeds to over 200
[03:01] <jenda> which probably does mean the trackers have been switched on.
[03:04] <Hobbsee> Seveas: why are we banning people from ubotu?  it means they cant access the help system
[03:04] <Seveas> Hobbsee, bot abuse
[03:05] <Hobbsee> Seveas: do you ever plan to remove the bans?
[03:05] <Seveas> maybe
[03:05] <Hobbsee> i'm not convinced that that's a good idea, to ban people from accessing the help system
[03:06] <Hobbsee> to ban them for bot abuse from the channel or something, yes...but from ubotu?
[03:06] <Hobbsee> that seems backwards
[03:06] <apokryphos> people can't /msg the bot if they're not in one of the channels, right?
[03:07] <Hobbsee> they cant msg the bot if they're being ignored
[03:07] <Hobbsee> i think they can, if they're not in the channel though
[03:07] <Seveas> flooding the bot will cause the bot to be killed
[03:08] <Hobbsee> well, obviously
[03:08] <Hobbsee> where flooding the bot == keeping asking it for info, presumably?
[03:10] <Hobbsee> Seveas: ^
[03:10] <Seveas> or abusing @chuck
[03:10] <tonyyarusso> Wow, 1501...
[03:10] <mc44> Hobbsee: note, abusing @t is allowed :)
[03:11] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:11] <Hobbsee> or 42
[03:11] <Amaranth> @futurama
[03:11] <ubotu> Bender: "There! That oughtta convert a few tailgaters."
[03:12] <Hobbsee> Seveas: w.r.t to the bot, you can do what you like, i cant stop you.  But i *dont* think it's reasonable to cut them off for long periods of time from the help system.  warn them, sure.  give them a ban from the channel, or whatever...but the help system's different.
[03:14] <gnomefreak> i miss +m :(
[03:15] <Hobbsee> haha, so do i
[03:15] <pirothezero> I need a test done on me
[03:15] <PriceChild> pirothezero, /join #pricechild
[03:17] <Hobbsee> !exploit | AmyRose
[03:17] <ubotu> AmyRose: There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[03:17] <PriceChild> pirothezero, you may rejoin #ubuntu Thanks :)
[03:17] <jrib> Seveas: the kubuntu page does list 7.04 doesn't it?
[03:17] <Seveas> it does
[03:17] <pirothezero> np thank you ;_
[03:17] <Seveas> and those images are final
[03:18] <Seveas> but other things need to be done before word spreads
[03:18] <jrib> oh ok
[03:18] <mc44> website and such
[03:18] <elkbuntu> @now utc
[03:18] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: April 19 2007, 13:18:41 - Next meeting: Development Team in 1 hour 41 minutes
[03:18] <mc44> Im sure Mith is just waiting for 13:37 UTC
[03:19] <PriceChild> haha
[03:19] <elkbuntu> mc44, ROFL
[03:19] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-release-party, Edward said: !ubotu when is feisty being released?
[03:22] <Hobbsee> nalioth: can you cloak scottk please?
[03:23] <jenda> is nalioth around?
[03:23] <jenda> Hobbsee: ubuntu/member?
[03:23] <Seveas> jenda, pretend you're nalioth and set the cloak :)
[03:23] <jenda> hehe
[03:23] <jenda> fragstealing
[03:23] <jenda> :)
[03:23] <Hobbsee> jenda: yeah.  think so
[03:24] <jenda> I'll have to ask him first... I recently cloaked a bunch of Canonical devs and got in trouble :)
[03:25] <Seveas> jenda, scottk asked for the cloak :)
[03:25] <mc44> jenda: because you didnt use the right mneptok cloak :)
[03:25] <Seveas> canonical/dontfeedthe/mneptok
[03:25] <tonyyarusso> heh
[03:26] <Hobbsee> haha
[03:26] <Hobbsee> jenda: he just asked
[03:26] <jenda> where?
[03:26] <Hobbsee> #kubuntu-devel
[03:26] <jenda> done
[03:26] <Hobbsee> [23:20]  <ScottK> If there's anyone that has a moment and remembers the details on setting up with a new cloak, I'd appreciate a pointer in the right direction.  I've gone through the freenode FAQ and made sure I'm an identified user.  Seveas has added me to the cloaked users group.  What next?
[03:26] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:26] <jenda> kk :)
[03:27] <jenda> it aches my heart but I have to pause the DL and move off to school
[03:29] <mneptok> jebus.
[03:29] <Hobbsee> heh
[03:29] <Hobbsee> hi mneptok
[03:29] <mneptok> heya
[03:32] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: that depedns if you use my repo or not ;)
[03:33] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:33] <gnomefreak> i have rc1 built i will be upgrading it to final but not sure when yet
[03:37] <foutrelis> I got banned from #ubuntu-release-party by Seveas for posting this link: http://kubuntu.org/download.php . It's not a mirror, it's kubuntu's download page and it has links to mirrors for Feisty Fawn. I consider this to be official (as far as Kubuntu is concerned). It's been over 10 minutes and I still can't post to #ubuntu-release-party. Can someone explain me what I did wrong and got banned?
[03:45] <Amaranth> I think we're going to break 1700 today
[03:46] <apokryphos> Seveas: why the topic change?
[03:47] <apokryphos> Kubuntu guys are hanging around in there too
[03:47] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, if not break, come damn close
[03:48] <gnomefreak> btw guys huxflux may try the other channels
[03:48] <apokryphos> thanks
[03:49] <tonyyarusso> Aaaaaaah, the world ended - where was elkbuntu ?
[03:49] <gnomefreak> he pmed me after i banned him and he didnt seem to happy ;)
[03:49] <gnomefreak> having a smoke tonyyarusso ;)
[03:51] <atoponce> jenda: nevermind. i took care of it
[03:56] <atoponce> Amaranth: not today, eh?
[04:02] <apokryphos> hm, looks like Freenode load is getting too high
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> a bit
[04:02] <Hobbsee> hah, yes
[04:02] <Myrtti> no messages from Christel yet :-)
[04:02] <alindeman> Where?
[04:03] <apokryphos> 07:02:04 -!- WHOIS Server load is temporarily too heavy. Please wait a while and try again.
[04:03] <alindeman> Oh, heh
[04:05] <gnomefreak> lol
 it's not very noticeable as of yet
[04:06] <apokryphos> there's so many channels on Freenode, really I wouldn't think the extra talk would change things _that_ much
[04:06] <apokryphos> ##bugzilla-world probably still has more traffic :o
[04:08] <elkbuntu> i only checked with her because of the whois load, but she said that might have been because she was /whois'ing a bit
[04:09] <poningru> PriceChild!!!
[04:10] <poningru> brb
[04:10] <PriceChild>  Hi?
[04:10] <Amaranth> chanserv.py kills /whois :)
[04:10] <Amaranth> and a lack of /whois kills chanserv.py
[04:11] <poningru> PriceChild: sorry
[04:11] <elkbuntu> i just realised...  #ubuntu-release-party is currently at like the pre-dapper #ubuntu number range :-/
[04:11] <elkbuntu> heck, maybe even pre-edgy
[04:12] <poningru> I heard somewhere that you were the one that packaged beryl for feisty
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> poningru: Candidate: 0.2.1.dfsg+git20070318-0ubuntu2
[04:12] <poningru> PriceChild: I needed help for the wiki feisty beryl help
[04:13] <poningru> tonyyarusso: oh blargh?
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> poningru: That's what apt-cache policy beryl gives me atm
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> Oh, wait
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> Ignore me
[04:13] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BerylOnFeisty
[04:13] <poningru> PriceChild ^^
[04:13] <PriceChild> poningru, I didn't package it for feisty
[04:14] <PriceChild> -effects for help
[04:14] <poningru> the question I had is does beryl packaging take care of the ati+intel xorg...
[04:14] <poningru> oh
[04:14] <elkbuntu> it's called a herring, dear
[04:15] <poningru> but...but...
[04:15] <poningru> what about a hisring?

[04:16] <tonyyarusso> ubotu forgot envy?
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about forgot envy? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <Seveas> ubuntu.com now says released
[04:19] <apokryphos> Seveas: shall we +m to get a note from sabdfl?
[04:19] <poningru> Seveas: also topic
[04:20] <Seveas> wallops from richih
[04:20] <Seveas> expect incomings in #Ubuntu
[04:20] <Seveas> let -party go rampant for a while
[04:20] <PriceChild> haha wow look at that
[04:23] <ubotu> bur[n] er_ called the ops in #ubuntu-release-party
[04:24] <PriceChild> lol
[04:24] <LjL> no #ubuntu+1 shutdown this time?
[04:24] <apokryphos> beh, /clear is evil
[04:24] <LjL> ok, nevermind
[04:24] <mc44> Seveas: you should have forwarded to #ubuntu :)
[04:24] <Seveas> it is
[04:24] <apokryphos> mc44: /clear stops rejoins
[04:24] <mc44> ah :)
[04:24] <Seveas> --- Channel #ubuntu+1 modes: +tincf #ubuntu
[04:24] <LjL> one thousand six hundred. nice.
[04:25] <effie_jayx> hehe
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> 1600.
[04:25] <atoponce> was i kicked from #ubuntu+1?
[04:25] <LjL> atoponce: we all were
[04:26] <atoponce> oh. ok.
[04:26] <jrib> atoponce: #ubuntu+1 is no more
[04:26] <atoponce> ahh
[04:26] <mc44> long live ubuntu+1
[04:26] <atoponce> messed my window numbering up, so i was just curious
[04:26] <jrib> atoponce: heh I was just saying the same thing
[04:27] <atoponce> is it just down until feisty goes final, or is this permament?
[04:27] <Seveas> atoponce, feisty is final :)
[04:27] <mc44> hah sabdfl is helping in #ubuntu :)
[04:28] <LjL> omg, save us
[04:28] <Amaranth> eep
[04:28] <atoponce> Seveas: sweet!
[04:28] <elkbuntu> Seveas, we're #3 again
[04:28] <LjL> #3?
[04:28] <Amaranth> third largest IRC channel in the _world_
[04:28] <Seveas> and closing in on #2 fast :)
[04:28] <LjL> what if i fire up a local ircd and join 1700 clones?
[04:28] <LjL> what are #1 and #2 anyway?
[04:28] <PriceChild> haha 904 seeds of the standard desktop cd torrent already?
[04:28] <Amaranth> how many did #1 have?
[04:30] <Seeker`> when does #ubuntu+1 open again?
[04:30] <apokryphos> soon after gutsy opens
[04:30] <atoponce> Amaranth: http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/
[04:30] <Amaranth> Seeker`: after UDS
[04:30] <Seeker`> ok
[04:30] <Seeker`> ty
[04:31] <elkbuntu> ooh.. it took this long for a party channel netsplit? nice
[04:31] <Amaranth> i bet we can beat #1
[04:31] <elkbuntu> s/netsplit/exploit/
[04:31] <Amaranth> if not today then when 7.10 comes out
[04:35] <Hobbsee> hi gnomefreak
[04:37] <gnomefreak> hi Hobbsee
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth: how many for #1?
[04:38] <Amaranth> 1787
[04:39] <cables> ops: is there any way I can help with testing people's clients, or is it already done?
[04:41] <Fujitsu> Good luck keeping everybody under control, and good night!
[04:41] <gnomefreak> night Fujitsu
[04:42] <Fujitsu> Night gnomefreak.
[04:42] <Nergar> hello
[04:44] <Nergar> i was banned from #Ubuntu and #ubuntu-release-party without a valid reason. And I am positive i wasn't breaking any rules. So I want an explanation
[04:44] <LjL> Nergar: i think i recall your nickname, hold on
[04:45] <zenbrother> hi all.  I was referred to the DOC exploit page.  May I be tested?
[04:45] <virdiq> hi, now that i've connected via port 8001
[04:45] <virdiq> is that ok?
[04:46] <virdiq> my router is fully updated and vulnerable (eek)
[04:46] <LjL> virdiq, zenbrother: i'll test you
[04:46] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-release-party, rohan said: !ops prakash007 is abusing, in hindi
[04:46] <virdiq> thanks
[04:46] <zenbrother> thank you
[04:46] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-release-party, prakash007 said: !ops rohan is blaming me wrongly
[04:47] <LjL> you can join #ubuntu-release-party
[04:47] <virdiq> thank you kindly!
[04:47] <zenbrother> thanks LjL
[04:47] <virdiq> THAT is what I call service :)
[04:51] <Nergar> so?
[04:53] <LjL> Nergar: unsure, i wasn't there and i don't seem to be able to obtain logs, try asking the person who banned you
[04:54] <Nergar> i tried, and i have waited more than 3 hours for an answer
[04:55] <atoponce> Nergar: i don't see that you were banned. you're still in the channel
[04:55] <Nergar> not in #ubuntu
[04:55] <atoponce> ahh
[04:55] <Nergar> and i was banned from #ubuntu-release-party also
[04:55] <Nergar> by Seveas
[04:56] <Seveas> I think I cought th wrong person there
[04:56] <Seveas> sorry!
[04:56] <poningru> ! pwnt
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pwnt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <Nergar> i think u did, cus i banned me after being idle for 4 hours
[04:57] <Nergar> i think u did, cus you banned me after being idle for 4 hours*
[04:57] <LjL> i think you're unbanned now
[04:57] <Nergar> yes i am
[04:57] <Nergar> thanks for the help
[04:58] <LjL> sorry for the mistake, you see the channels are "slightly" busy
[04:58] <Nergar> Seveas, i don't usually PM without permission but try answering them :)
[04:58] <Seveas> LjL, understatement :)
[04:58] <Nergar> np LjL
[04:59] <elkbuntu> Nergar, im pretty sure he has a pm list as long as you are tall at the moment
[04:59] <Seveas> Nergar, my pm window list is insanely long (around 80)
[04:59] <Nergar> ok, thanks again
[04:59] <Nergar> later
[05:00] <KalleDK> Would like to be tested
[05:01] <Seveas> KalleDK, please join #kalletest
[05:02] <Hobbsee> :)
[05:12] <effie_jayx> viva la ubuntu :D
[05:20] <Seveas> KalleDK, where were you banned?
[05:20] <KalleDK> ubuntu-release-party
[05:21] <Seveas> ban removed
[05:21] <KalleDK> Thx Seveas
[05:21] <AmyRose> Am I safe now?
[05:21] <apokryphos> no-one is ever safe
[05:22] <AmyRose> I mean from the DCC exploit
[05:22] <AmyRose> I think Hobbsee tested me earlier
[05:23] <Hobbsee> AmyRose: was fine earlier, yes
[05:23] <AmyRose> OK
[05:23] <AmyRose> thanks
[05:25] <LjL> [17:24:54]  <rambo3> How do i downgrade to edgy?? one!! <-- is this the first? :)
[05:27] <Pici> my logs say... yes
[05:27] <Amaranth> damn we're down to #6
[05:28] <Hobbsee> #6?
[05:28] <Amaranth> largest IRC channel
[05:28] <Hobbsee> ahh
[05:28] <Amaranth> crap
[05:28] <Amaranth> another open week
[05:29] <Amaranth> those are a pain to run
[05:32] <elkbuntu> Amaranth, but oh so fun!
[05:55] <mneptok> gunh. lagged.
[05:56] <mneptok> brb
[06:02] <LjL> !final
[06:02] <ubotu> If you are running a Herd/Beta versions of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn), and haven't neglected to accept the automatic updates, you are already running the final release version of Feisty. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.
[06:13] <ubotu> IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu
[06:13] <elkbuntu> !staff | sumimasen needs a kline
[06:13] <ubotu> sumimasen needs a kline: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[06:16] <PriceChild> the exploit works with dcc ch.at as well?
[06:16] <apokryphos> on some, yes
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> It works lots of ways with different people
[06:16] <PriceChild> hehe
[06:16] <atoponce> it's nice to see that it's not affecting as many as it used to
[06:17] <Pici> Thats because you all keep banning them ;)
[06:17] <atoponce> heh
[06:20] <PriceChild> Is it me or did that not get anyone :)
[06:20] <PriceChild> silly nasty people
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> Not just you :)
[06:21] <atoponce> looks like it got 1 or 2
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> Nope, that was a regular quit
[06:21] <atoponce> the connection timed out?
[06:21] <PriceChild> yeah
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> it came later
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> barely
[06:21] <atoponce> 10:19 <<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[Connection timed out]
[06:22] <atoponce> that one?
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> I think so
[06:36] <ubotu> In ubotu, ssam said: ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up until edgy, and is now a community port. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[06:37] <PriceChild> ppc
[06:37] <PriceChild> !ppc
[06:37] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up until edgy, and is now a community port.
[06:40] <nixternal> shouldn't that say "up until feisty"?
[06:42] <PriceChild> "up to and including edgy" to make sure? :)
[06:42] <nixternal> I have Edgy PPC disks as home
[06:43] <PriceChild> yeah it only got dropped at feisty... i'll change it
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> "through edgy"
[06:44] <nixternal> oh, I didn't catch your "up and including"
[06:44] <nixternal> err, up to and including
[06:44] <nixternal> PriceChild: you would be correct then with your version
[06:45] <PriceChild> changed
[07:12] <mc44> meh lots of the help pages are out of date for feisty
[07:23] <PriceChild> mc44, get to work
[07:23] <mc44> PriceChild: pff svn stuff :p
[07:24] <PriceChild> mmm ice cream
[07:37] <maddler> knock knock...
[07:38] <PriceChild> hi
[07:38] <maddler> I'd need some infos about that dcc stuf... :)
[07:38] <maddler> oh... hello PriceChild
[07:38] <PriceChild> Have you fixed it?
[07:38] <maddler> I'm connecting using port 8001...
[07:38] <PriceChild> if so please join #pricechild for a test
[07:38] <PriceChild> yup please join #pricechild :)
[07:38] <maddler> but I'd like to know more about the bug...
[07:39] <PriceChild> Ok basically the router thinks its getting a command... but doesn't know how to interpret it and just keels over in frustration
[07:41] <PriceChild> he was fixed.... then decided he'd changed the wrong line and left
[07:43] <maddler> ok... I was saying... I'd like to know more... on #ubuntu-read-topic you talk about a router problem...
[07:43] <maddler> is there anything more specific?
[07:44] <PriceChild> maddler, you can rejoin #ubuntu
[07:44] <PriceChild> I've got to run though sorry, I'll pm you a repeat of what i said earlier
[07:45] <maddler> oh... sorry...
[07:45] <maddler> ok... no problem...
[08:05] <ubotu> crdlb called the ops in #ubuntu-release-party
[08:10] <stdin> shouldn't !upgrade (in #kubuntu) be updated now?
[08:23] <gnomefreak> !upgrade-#kubuntu
[08:23] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:24] <gnomefreak> !no upgrade-#kubuntu is <reply> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[08:24] <ubotu> I'll remember that gnomefreak
[08:24] <gnomefreak> fixed
[08:26] <mc44> gnomefreak: the feistyupgrades page includes kubuntu instructions that are different
[08:26] <gnomefreak> what is it?
[08:28] <gnomefreak> i dont see another upgrade page
[08:29] <mc44> !upgrade
[08:29] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:30] <gnomefreak> thats not kubuntu
[08:30] <gnomefreak> kubuntu has a new upgrade tool and is not mentioned on that page
[08:30] <mc44> its mentioned on the page which that links to for feisty
[08:30] <mc44> although its set up stupid at the moment as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades
[08:30] <gnomefreak> i got it
[08:30] <gnomefreak> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[08:31] <mc44> yeah, the page is forwarding there for some stupid reason
[08:31] <mc44> and the links on it are busted
[08:32] <gnomefreak> !no upgrade-#kubuntu is <reply> See http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[08:32] <ubotu> I'll remember that gnomefreak
[08:33] <gnomefreak> ah i see now
[08:33] <gnomefreak> why is it redirecting :(
[08:33] <mc44> so it looks nice on the new ubuntu.com layout I expect
[08:34] <mc44> which is rather silly. but hey ho
[08:34] <gnomefreak> !no upgrade-#kubuntu is <reply> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[08:34] <ubotu> I'll remember that gnomefreak
[08:34] <gnomefreak> it is i agree
[08:34] <gnomefreak> its inly the feisty one redirecting
[08:34] <gnomefreak> only
[08:35] <mc44> there were also some additional instructions for server upgrades on that page which were not on the forwarded page
[08:48] <ubotu> In #kubuntu-devel, lucas_ said: ubotu: yes but it is installed anyway
[09:15] <Seveas> !bot > lucas_
[09:32] <Bain> hey I fixed  the disconnect thing, can I get back into #ubuntu now? :)
[09:33] <ompaul> Bain, join me in #ompaul
[09:33] <ompaul> for a little test
[09:36] <ompaul> Bain, sorted
[10:06] <atoponce> down to ~1500 nicks in the channel and ~450 in the release party. things slowing down i assume?
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> Yep, 1500 is "slowing down"
[10:06] <atoponce> :)
[10:06] <atoponce> well, compared to the almost 1700 just a few hours ago, was it?
[10:07] <atoponce> and 800 in release party, iirc
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> I saw 1600 and 750, don't know about the last four hours though
[10:37] <Seveas> atoponce, never been higher than almost 1600
[10:37] <mc44> it got to 1600 at one point
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> It did top 1600
[10:41] <mc44> when +1 was forwarded
[10:51] <gnomefreak> its < 1500 :(
[10:55] <tonyyarusso> Europe is going to bed
[10:57] <atoponce> Seveas: cool
[11:06] <Tm_T> hey
[11:07] <Tm_T> why ubuntu+1 directs to #ubuntu?
[11:07] <ompaul> cos there is no development version
[11:07] <ompaul> it is released
[11:07] <Tm_T> and?
[11:07] <ompaul> it will open again in 14-20 days
[11:07] <Tm_T> hmh
[11:07] <ompaul> there is no devel version so there is no need for it
[11:07] <Tm_T> damnes
[11:07] <ompaul> fiesty is in #ubuntu
[11:07] <Tm_T> now there's hole in my irssi channel list
[11:08] <ompaul> aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
[11:08] <Tm_T> 500+ uptime *pow* gone
[11:09] <ompaul> madmaster, now
[11:09] <Tm_T> tonyyarusso: thanks for idea ;)
[11:09] <ompaul> A) have you any work to show who is doing -bg at this time?
[11:10] <madmaster> well got info from a local linux site... wait a sec to translate it ...
[11:10] <gnomefreak> toolchain should be done repos open around the 23 from my understanding
[11:10] <ompaul> madmaster, your missing my point, are you active promoting ubuntu
[11:11] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: good idea
[11:11] <ompaul> madmaster, do you know who else is doing so in your part of the world?
[11:11] <madmaster> in a verry base phase...
[11:11] <madmaster> yep contacted a guy recently...
[11:11] <madmaster> held a small presentation in a local meeting...
[11:11] <ompaul> madmaster, okay stick up some wiki pages telling of this work, get a launchpad account, sign the CoC
[11:12] <madmaster> pardon me CoC?
[11:12] <ompaul> code of conduct
[11:12] <ompaul> its kind of obvious on lauchpad whenyou sign up
[11:13] <ompaul> madmaster, when you have all that done go talk with jono bacon
[11:13] <ompaul> jono@ ubuntu dot com
[11:18] <gnomefreak> guys akanecita is a bot and sends messages in spanish when joining channels
[11:18] <gnomefreak> has been banned from #ubuntu so far
[11:19] <gnomefreak> i couldnt ban it?
[11:19] <gnomefreak> wtf
[11:21] <LjL> ?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> i use irssi script and /abr should remove and ban it only removed
[11:22] <LjL> gnomefreak: maybe chanserv was slow to op you and the script didn't notice?
[11:23] <gnomefreak> could be since i have 2 packages building
[11:23] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:23] <gnomefreak> its banned now anyway
[11:28] <PriceChild> I think whois is being dodgy due to load
[11:29] <Seveas> @config list plugins.ncyclopedia
[11:29] <Seveas> @config list plugins.ncyclopedia
[11:29] <Seveas> @config list plugins.encyclopedia
[11:29] <ubotu> #database, #prefixchar, #searchorder, alert, aptdir, datadir, notfoundmsg, packagelookup, public, and relaychannel
[11:29] <Seveas> @config plugins.encyclopedia.searchorder
[11:29] <ubotu> edgy edgy-backports edgy-seveas
[11:29] <Seveas> @config plugins.encyclopedia.searchorder feisty
[11:29] <ubotu> OK
[11:30] <Tm_T> ubotu: OK
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <Tm_T> :(
[12:01] <tonyyarusso> !thunderbird2
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thunderbird2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:02] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: it will be in gutsy
[12:02] <gnomefreak> i have rc in my repo getting it ready for final
[12:03] <ajmitch> gnomefreak: quick question, does it ship the mozldap sdk? if so, which version does it use?
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: I know, but we should have a factoid for it - Is there anything on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion that needs to be changed for v2?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: i will look at it
[12:04] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Ok.  When you're done, feel free to make a <reply> Thunderbird 2 will be in Gutsy.  To get it now, just follow the same basic steps as <thatURL>
[12:04] <gnomefreak> ajmitch: not sure off hand ask asac if he knows but im not sure atm ill look when firefox and iceape are done building
[12:04] <tonyyarusso> If you're feeling really ambitious, update the wiki page
[12:04] <gnomefreak> ajmitch: i think it does but version not sure
[12:04] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: someone will
[12:05] <ajmitch> gnomefreak: nevermind, I'll check it
[12:07] <gnomefreak> alot of lag so i dont know if spelled wrong at time of typing ;)
[12:16] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: alex will take care of it sometime in next 4-5 days
[12:16] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: Thanks
[12:16] <gnomefreak> i will make factoid when i am sure we are good with tb2 in my repo
[12:16] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:19] <LjL> !is a bot is <reply> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[12:19] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[12:20] <LjL> at least it's more elegant than "i don't know anything about is a bot"
[12:20] <Tm_T> LjL is a bot!
[12:20] <Tm_T> hmh
[12:20] <mc44> why does ubotu respond to sentences with ubotu at the start anyweay
[12:20] <LjL> ubotu why do you do that?
[12:21] <LjL> Tm_T: i'm trying to control the temptation
[12:21] <mc44> LjL: file a bug :)
[12:21] <Tm_T> LjL: do it, you'll see how helpful it will be
[12:21] <LjL> mc44: anyway some people do use "ubotu" as trigger
[12:21] <LjL> on purpose i mean
[12:23] <mc44> yeah, but most of the time its accidental
[12:23] <mc44> I dont see the point in having ubotu as a trigger
[12:23] <LjL> ubotu, please lart mc44
[12:23] <LjL> nah
[12:23] <mc44> :p
[12:25] <LjL> ubotu, be kind and tell mc44 about ban
[12:25] <gnomefreak> is it broke?
[12:27] <mc44> holycow is telling people to upgrade with apt-get


[00:01] <chorgox> cool is working now, my task bar is looking funny i wonder if the applets that installed for unity are messing
[02:09] <CTtechguy> has anyone been having an issue with  flash crashing?
[02:10] <stlsaint> CTtechguy: what release you on? (me no i have not)
[02:10] <CTtechguy> 12.04
[02:10] <CTtechguy> chrome and firefox
[02:11] <stlsaint> CTtechguy: can you pinpoint what is happening when flash crashes?
[02:11] <Unit193> What one do you have installed? dpkg -l |grep flash
[02:12] <CTtechguy> adobe-flash-properties-gtk                     <IP_ADDRESS>-0precise1                  GTK+ control panel for Adobe Flash Player plugin version 11
[02:12] <CTtechguy> ii  adobe-flashplugin                              <IP_ADDRESS>-0precise1                  Adobe Flash Player plugin version 11
[02:13] <CTtechguy> seems like every time I try to play embedded video
[02:15] <stlsaint> is that the latest flash release?
[02:16] <CTtechguy> I beleive so I installed it a day or 2 ago
[02:17] <Unit193> http://youtube.com/html5 for one thing
[02:18] <stlsaint> CTtechguy: the one in repos does not constitute a up to date package
[02:18] <CTtechguy> yep but hulu.com always crashes
[02:18] <CTtechguy> I installed tarball from adobe
[02:18] <Unit193> stlsaint: He's using the one in -partner, it's at least a little better. :/
[02:20] <stlsaint> aye
[02:21] <Unit193> You could always try "Pepper"flash. :/
[02:26] <CTtechguy> well if I cant resolve I'll for format and and install 12.04 fresh
[03:27] <rolandb> how do I add a desktop shortcut, or an app I downloaded (TOR) to a panel in LXDE?
[03:28] <Unit193> Both in here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides
[03:30] <pibarnas> rolandb: right click the panel and select add/remove item to a panel, select apps bar. I think it's a good way.
[03:30] <rolandb> no i have to put it in the applications menu first
[03:30] <pibarnas> rolandb: maybe the names are slightly different. my system isn't in english.
[03:31] <Unit193> There isn't a good menu editor for LXDE yet in the repo, but there is a good canidate last I knew, hope that'll get in sooner than later.
[03:32] <pibarnas> rolandb: well, I think it's not necessary. You *want* to put there, you mean?
[03:33] <rolandb> Unit193, do i have to logout or something for the .desktop file to show up in the start menu?
[03:34] <Unit193> I don't remember, but wouldn't hurt.
[03:34] <rolandb> pibarnas, apps bar only works for stuff that is also in /usr/share/applications...
[06:20] <exxtreme> Is Gimp Shop available in Lubuntu 12.04 ? (I'm not running Lubuntu right now).
[06:20] <exxtreme> or. is there another decent alternative to photoshop?
[06:22] <KM0201> exxtreme: well, there's obviously gimp
[06:22] <KM0201> but as for gimpshop....
[06:23] <KM0201> no, doesn't look like it
[06:23] <KM0201> however, i think its fairly easy to install
[06:24] <exxtreme> ok..I installed gimp.  Would you agree that Gimp is the best photoshop alternative for Linux?
[06:24] <KM0201> IMO, yes.
[06:24] <KM0201> but i don't mess w/ "gimpshop"..
[06:24] <KM0201> so i couldn't tell you how that works (yes i know its just window dressing)
[06:25] <KM0201> hmm, all the instructions i find for gimpshop are for 8.04.
[06:25] <Unit193> In the next release, there should be Gimp 2.8 which is windowed.
[06:26] <exxtreme> thanks...gimp will do for now.
[06:26] <KM0201> Unit193: yeah, i've heard that, but there's a repository for gimp 2.8 now
[06:26] <KM0201> it's a PPA
[06:26] <KM0201> cuz 2.8 just went final.
[06:27] <Unit193> Not official, supported or that jazz.
[06:27] <KM0201> i know, just saying, its available
[06:28] <exxtreme> anyone used photoshop in wine/Lubuntu ?
[06:29] <KM0201> exxtreme: why on earth would you do that? (my understanding, it gives mixed results)
[06:29] <exxtreme> someone asked me if they can run photoshop..i need to let them know
[06:29] <exxtreme> the wine wiki says it's possible, but i'd like to hear 'first hand' reports
[06:30] <KM0201> you can *try*.. but my experience with photoshop and wine, is it's very mixed.
[06:30] <KM0201> it's easier to just learn gimp... no point having a $400 program inside wine, and some of the features not working or getting frequent errors
[06:30] <Unit193> !appdb
[06:31] <Unit193> That'll have the best info o it.
[06:40] <exxtreme> is cinepaint in the lubuntu repos?
[06:40] <Unit193> !info cinepaint
[06:45] <kanliot> !info of manure
[11:18] <Silverlion> any supporter here for helping me to file a possible bug?
[11:21] <iceroot> Silverlion: sure, have a look first here
[11:21] <iceroot> !bug | Silverlion
[11:21] <iceroot> Silverlion: any open questions are very welcome here
[11:22] <Silverlion> iceroot i am not sure if it is a bug
[11:22] <Silverlion> i am sitting at an installation routine since yesterday night
[11:23] <iceroot> Silverlion: give us some input about the issue please
[11:23] <Silverlion> iceroot: sure but not sure about what input you need
[11:24] <Silverlion> hardware from 2003 x86 installing a lubuntu live installation cd burned from lubuntu.ned
[11:24] <Silverlion> net
[11:24] <iceroot> Silverlion: what are you trying to do, what is not working, which version
[11:26] <Silverlion> trying to install, after entering the necessary information about TimeZone, Keyboard etc. the installation starts by saying "data is copied" but after several minutes the screen vanishes and leaves a desktop with a circle like the windows sand-clock (and this is lasting now for 3 1/2 hrs now) , version is lubuntu 12.04
[11:27] <kanliot> Silverlion, check your syslog, see where ubiquity crashed @
[11:28] <Silverlion> kanliot: no idea how
[11:29] <kanliot> you know console?
[11:31] <Silverlion> affirmative
[11:33] <Silverlion> kanliot: and now?
[11:33] <kanliot> k
[11:33] <Silverlion> sorry but i have now idea :D
[11:34] <kanliot> this command:
[11:34] <kanliot> less /var/logs/syslog
[11:34] <kanliot> if you hunt around, you will see a call stack when ubiquity crashed
[11:36] <kanliot> really you might as well just report the bug
[11:36] <kanliot> it will take a while
[11:36] <kanliot> but....
[11:40] <Silverlion> kanliot: "no such file or directory: /var/logs/syslog
[11:41] <kanliot> oops /var/log/syslog
[11:41] <kanliot> sorry
[11:45] <kanliot> i'm working from this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity
[11:45] <Silverlion> kanliot: pastebin.ubuntu.com/966737
[11:48] <kanliot> /var/log/partman
[11:48] <kanliot> /var/log/installer
[11:48] <kanliot> if you paste those you can file the bug easily
[11:48] <kanliot> Silverlion, and good job on the paste
[11:48] <kanliot> i'm actually curious how you did it from livecd
[11:48] <kanliot> and how much ram do you have?
[11:49] <Silverlion> a) via lx terminal, b) 1gb
[11:49] <kanliot> how do you pastebin from the terminaL?  select with mouse?
[11:56] <Silverlion> select with mouse, then edit copy and ctrl+v in chrominum
[12:15] <Silverlion> hoi MrChrisDruif
[12:16] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha
[12:18] <Silverlion> MrChrisDruif: struggeling again with install of lubuntu :(
[12:18] <MrChrisDruif> That's too bad
[12:20] <kanliot> chris i'm wondering what is coming this week regarding the wiki.  If you could give me a heads up what we can go ahead with
[12:26] <MrChrisDruif> I'm not too busy with wiki atm, I only update what is currently already on the pages to more holistic etc.
[12:28] <kanliot> MrChrisDruif, can you pm me
[13:07] <Elouin> Hi, I just installed lubuntu 12.04 on my netbook. When im trying to enter my wlan its always saying wrong password...
[13:11] <KM0201> Elouin: are you using wep, wpa, wpa2, etc?
[13:19] <MrChrisDruif> KM0201; isn't that the same issue as reported on the mailing-list? Asking for root password?
[13:29] <Elouin> Its when im entering the wpa2 pass its says that its wrong
[13:33] <Elouin> ok i got it.... thx
[13:48] <kanliot> sup mi3
[13:50] <mi3> yo
[15:05] <dove_g> anyone can try, pcmanfm crashin almost always when you drag and drop folder to bookmark on left side
[15:05] <dove_g> please try with folders with many folders/files
[15:19] <pmatulis_> does anyone know where pcmanfm stores its bookmarks?
[15:19] <pmatulis_> the man page says ~/.pcmanfm/bookmarks but that dot directory does not exist
[15:20] <pmatulis_> and any grepping i've done has proven fruitless
[17:51] <bodhi_zazen> amjjawad ping
[17:51] <bodhi_zazen> not sure if you use a different nick on IRC
[17:55] <Unit193> Isn't on IRC, except *maybe* for a meeting.
[17:55] <bioterror> bodhi_zazen, you will find him from the forums :D
[17:59] <bodhi_zazen> OK, well, then FYI ...
[18:00] <bodhi_zazen> amjjawad tried to start a lubuntu support mega-thread on the forums, I jailed it
[18:00] <bodhi_zazen> AFIK the forums are willing to support such a thread, but the lubuntu team needs to be willing to back it
[18:01] <bodhi_zazen> Without backing, these sorts of things are messy at best
[18:01] <bodhi_zazen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1229345
[18:01] <bodhi_zazen> That thread is over 5,000 strong
[18:02] <bodhi_zazen> FC has invited amjjawad, and the entire lubuntu team, to post to FC mailing list or come to FC meeting to discuss collaboration if you all are interested
[18:03] <bodhi_zazen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda
[18:03] <bodhi_zazen><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:04] <bodhi_zazen> IMO, backing means willing to take tips from such a mega thread -> improve lubuntu wiki pages
[18:04] <bodhi_zazen> As well as moderate / promote such a discussion with ubuntu forums community
[18:04] <bodhi_zazen> Thank you ;)
[18:28] <smile> bye :)
[18:49] <Guest17383> I'm getting the 'missing plugin' message on youtube despite having install lubuntu-restricted-extras, ubuntu-restricted-extras, and ubuntu-restricted-addons.  I'm using 11.04 Lubuntu..
[18:56] <burrito_> sorry, I got cut off, I was the guest with the youtube plugins issue.  Guest17383
[18:57] <bioterror> enable partner repository if not enabled
[18:57] <bioterror> and install adobe-flashplugin
[18:57] <bioterror> remove flashplugin-installer before that
[19:05] <burrito_> bioterror should I reboot?  it stills shows as plugin missing?
[19:05] <bioterror> restart your browser
[19:05] <bioterror> no need for reboot
[19:05] <bioterror> only a kernel update requires reboot
[19:07] <burrito_> hmm.. still says 'missing plugin'.. I installed the one with the description "Adobe Flash Player plugin version 11"
[19:07] <bioterror> and you quit your chromium and started it again+
[19:07] <bioterror> ?
[19:08] <burrito_> yes.  I had actually done that immediately after the installation was complete.  And repeated a few times since.
[19:09] <burrito_> you wouldn't happen to know if there were any bugs associated with this in the initial release do you?  because I just installed this OS and have yet to update.
[19:09] <burrito_> well, I have yet to do a complete update that is.
[19:10] <bioterror> sure you should do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[19:11] <bioterror> but I really dont know why that plugin is missing
[19:11] <bioterror> can you use any other flash siten then?
[19:11] <bioterror> -n
[19:12] <Unit193> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ That doesn't work for you?
[19:13] <burrito_> nope, does the same thing..
[19:13] <burrito_> i was trying to avoid a distro upgrade but I think it would likely be inevitable.  I've got to have flash.
[19:14] <burrito_> okay, I'll just update and upgrade..  it's not a terribly big deal i guess.  I'm just scared of upgrades since I used to use Ubuntu
[19:14] <Unit193> I do distupgrade every day, it's just a normal upgrade, but permitted to install new packages.
[19:16] <burrito_> well, I've been getting the alert windows to upgrade the distro to 11.10 and I'm familiar with how much of a mess Ubuntu's 11.10 was..  I've been avoiding it since I installed this OS onto this machine..  Well, I'm off to update and upgrade my stuff..  Thanks bioterror and Unit193
[19:17] <Unit193> dist-upgrade != Upgrade to 11.10. :/
[20:00] <miro1> is there a way to switch the whole theme from the lates lubuntu back to a darker version?
[20:01] <bioterror> Mon10:36*<bioterror> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Oneiric/Ozone
[20:04] <bioterror> remember to change font color of the panel to white too
[20:04] <bioterror> and elementary theme to dark
[20:22] <miro1> so, I have to download this ozon2 package, right?
[20:23] <Unit193> Should already be on the system, but might not be so extract it into ~/.themes/
[20:23] <miro1> when I select the ozon2 theme everything is still very light represented
[20:23] <miro1> Unito193: yes, that's what I already did
[20:24] <miro1> hm
[20:24] <Unit193> Then do you have a "LubuntuDefault"?
[20:24] <miro1> yes, I have
[20:29] <laumonier> hi im wondering if the 12.4 lubuntu is more reliable than the 11.10 because it was crashing a lot (especialy pcmanfm)
[20:30] <holstein> laumonier: try it live.. try 12.04 live and see...
[20:31] <laumonier> holstein: what an answer....it helps me a lot.....
[20:31] <holstein> laumonier: maybe its hardware specific... 11.10 was not "crashy" for me
[20:32] <holstein> laumonier: i really cant say without more information.. but you can just load up the live CD and see for yourself :)
[20:32] <Unit193> You could check all the bugs on launchpad and sourceforge, see if whatever may be for you is closed.
[20:39] <dove_g> nice, if anyone wants ubuntu look on lubuntu 12.04 here is the fix of grey drop menus
[20:39] <dove_g> http://www.techytalk.info/ubuntu-ppas/light-themes/
[20:41] <miro1> can someone recommend an lightweight alternative to sylpheed?
[20:41] <miro1> or lets say a lubuntu compatible mail client
[20:42] <Unit193> alpine?
[20:43] <EvilResistance> that's CLI last i checked, Unit193
[20:43] <Unit193> EvilResistance: TUI, and it's an alternitive.
[20:43] <EvilResistance> indeed
[20:47] <miro1> but both do not support rich text which I would like to have, that's why I'm looking for alternitives
[20:48] <EvilResistance> well there's sylpheed which is included in lubuntu, there's evolution which usually comes with Ubuntu, but that's not light-weight, there's Thunderbird, also not very light weight...
[20:48] <EvilResistance> there's alpine, which is a TUI
[20:48] <bioterror> what's tui?
[20:48] <EvilResistance> textual user interface
[20:49] <bioterror> :D
[20:49] <Unit193> Another name for ncurses.
[20:49] <bioterror> how about mutt
[20:49] <bioterror> cone
[20:49] <dove_g> where are stored icons from Lxapperance under Icon Theme? (path)
[20:50] <bioterror> also re-alpine :D
[20:51] <Unit193> !info alpine
[20:51] <bioterror> !info cone
[20:51] <Unit193> Dowh, that's realpine, it just doesn't list it.
[20:52] <dove_g> found it, /usr/share/icons :)
[20:52] <Unit193> BestBot over in #ubuntu-bots could also tell you the best client.
[20:53] <ChaosColor> speaking of sylpheed, is there a better way to hide imap folders than removing them from the xml file?
[20:54] <ChaosColor> the imap server I connect to is retarded and lists all files in my account's home directory
[21:31] <JeGueeR94> Hello there!
[22:00] <CTtechguy> just as an update I installed the latest flash from the repo and it is working adobe-flashplugin_<IP_ADDRESS>-0precise1_i386.deb
[22:01] <Unit193> Yeah, not much to say with flash, it works for some and works at time, but not at others. :P
[22:01] <CTtechguy> thanks for all suggestions
[22:01] <Unit193> Glad you have it though, now you can win all those ipads like me.
[22:01] <CTtechguy> and help
[22:11] <CTtechguy> Unit193: to go along with my iphone
[22:51] <vandiv> people of lubuntu community. I have two computers with lubuntu, copy & paste configuration (so, it is the same in both of them), both with 11.10, one popup to update to 12.04 and upgraded, the other never did it, even updating, trying to upgrade or do-release-upgrade -d. what could be the problem?
[23:10] <vandiv> I get it, thanks http://www.unixmen.com/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-1004-1010-1104-to-ubuntu-1110-oneiric-ocelot-desktop-a-server/
[23:52] <stlsaint> TheMaster: master?? really??
[23:53] <TheMaster> (This is offtopic, but...) Haven't you seen Doctor Who??
[23:59] <stlsaint> TheMaster: i dunno..cant remember