[19:56] <multifractal> How come I can only connect to the internet as long as my NordVPN is connected? Otherwise I juse see "no internet connection" errors in all programs, chrome, firefox, smuxi irc, etc.
[19:56] <JFox762> multifractal
[19:56] <JFox762> You probably have "Internet killswitch" turned on in your NordVPN app
[19:56] <multifractal> JFox762: It's configured through network-manager. This is 16.04
[19:56] <JFox762> although... there is no NordVPN app for linux...
[19:58] <JFox762> Network-manager?
[19:58] <JFox762> I'm using 18.04
[20:00] <nickInItaly> oerheks: would you recommend that I reboot to USBstick, delete the sda5 and reinstall grub?
[20:01] <JFox762> Also, the buetooth network manager doesn't really give you many options beyond forgetting devices, and repairing tem etc
[20:02] <ddoobb> Can you replace the /home on a fresh install immediately with the one on your previous installation?
[20:05] <Tin__man> what do you mean replace? you can copy all your home files that reside inside the individual directories
[20:05] <petro> leftyfb, well, one must is being able to view and access pictures on the phone
[20:12] <ddoobb> Tin_man : I have the old partition backed up so I can only do a replace using my backup software
[20:14] <Tin_man> that all depends of course on the software, I'm not sure how Ubuntu handles that at the system level.
[20:16] <Tin_man> ddoobb, this might help >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[20:18] <idjit> hello. ubuntu 14.04 server (with X packages installed including openbox & lightdm) is giving me intermittent problems. the trouble started after switching from notify-osd to dunst and installing several software updates.
[20:18] <idjit> sometimes when i restart lightdm the monitor just shows a black screen. i can VNC in from another computer, and everything looks fine, but the monitor doesn't show the desktop. the user gets switched from DISPLAY=:0 to DISPLAY=:1, and the monitor doesn't seem to get the memo.
[20:18] <leftyfb> petro: that's what icloud, dropbox, google photos is for
[20:18] <idjit> any idea what might be happening here?
[20:18] <idjit> (if i restart lightdm again, everything comes back up normally (with DISPLAY=:0))
[20:23] <tomreyn> idjit: no idea there. but since 14.04 is only supported until spring, you might want to consider an upgrade, too.
[20:24] <idjit> yeah, running a do-release-upgrade now, thanks :-)
[20:24] <tomreyn> 16.04 LTS has been around cine spring 2016, 18.04 LTS will be enabled for LTS upgrades soon, probably early next month.
[20:24] <tomreyn> cine -> since
[20:27] <idjit> what causes a DISPLAY to increment from :0 to :1? i tried restarting with `service lightdm stop; sleep 2; service lightdm start`, and it still happens from time to time.
[20:28] <Peetz0r> why not 'systemctl restart lightdm'
[20:28] <Peetz0r> or 'service lightdm restart'
[20:28] <idjit> because this one is still on 14.04 and i don't have systemctl (running an upgrade now.)
[20:28] <Peetz0r> ah, yeah
[20:28] <Peetz0r> well, try again after the upgrade ;)
[20:28] <idjit> and i was using restart (instead of stop; sleep; start) but that's when the problem was discovered. i figured slwoing things down might help keep user's DISPLAY=:0, but no such luck.
[20:32] <Danoded> Hey guys, is it possible to fix a broken mbr using an ubuntu install?
[20:33] <Danoded> When trying to boot into windows 7
[20:34] <EriC^^> Danoded: dont you have ubuntu installed?
[20:34] <EriC^^> (dual boot)
[20:34] <Danoded> EriC^^: see that's the big issue...
[20:34] <Danoded> I tried to install another linux distro before
[20:34] <Danoded> Didn't work, didn't restore the proper MBR
[20:35] <Danoded> So I had my boot menu as: <Windows 7, Windows 7 2, Linux>
[20:35] <Danoded> No issues on my old PC, but just upgraded to a new one with a new mobo
[20:35] <Danoded> Getting the grub rescue issue
[20:35] <EriC^^> Danoded: do you have a live usb you can use right now to troubleshoot?
[20:36] <Danoded> EriC^^: Yep got ubuntu on 'try' mode right now
[20:36] <EriC^^> Danoded: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link here
[20:36] <oerheks> use your windows 7 dvd ..
[20:37] <Danoded> oerheks: I have tried to boot into a windows image from usb
[20:37] <Danoded> get the grub issue again
[20:37] <apteryx> uebera||: ah, it seems Dnsmasq gives the same IP to machine sharing the same CLIENTID. I confirmed the client IDs are the same. A similar issue to mine is reported here: https://github.com/archlinux/arch-boxes/issues/25
[20:37] <Danoded> EriC^^: will do
[20:37] <EriC^^> Danoded: how did you make the windows usb?
[20:38] <apteryx> The fix would be to remove this ID in the VM image by issuing 'rm /etc/machine-id'
[20:38] <Danoded> Eric^^: Just made it bootable with windows installation files
[20:38] <EriC^^> Danoded: you mean you just copied the files over to the usb's partition?
[20:39] <Danoded> EriC^^: Not... necessarily
[20:39] <EriC^^> Danoded: do explain :)
[20:39] <Danoded> I do have a windows CD I can try instead don't worry
[20:39] <Danoded> Want to try your command first
[20:39] <EriC^^> Danoded: k
[20:40] <juacom99> Hi, one question. I'm trying to make a static route persistent, i edit my /etc/network/interfaces to add the line post-up route add -host <<my host here>> gw <<The gateway here>> dev <<my dev name here>>, but when i reboot i loos all the reouts. any idea why?. i'm on a Ubuntu 14.04
[20:42] <tomreyn> juacom99: do you have "net-tools" instealled?
[20:42] <Danoded> EriC^^: Unrecognsied disk label errors
[20:42] <Danoded> will post more
[20:42] <EriC^^> Danoded: any link?
[20:43] <tomreyn> juacom99: it's the package which provides the /sbin/route command. on current ubuntu releases, you would rather use the "ip route" command.
[20:43] <juacom99> tomreyn: no, sorry
[20:43] <Danoded> this one? http://termbin.com/evrb
[20:44] <Danoded> yeah, that one
[20:44] <juacom99> tomreyn: the problem is that if i run the comand on a cmd it work
[20:44] <Stochastix_> bacarrdy_, Thanks for the command suggestions, I tried  -S and i keep getting invalid option -S
[20:44] <juacom99> but when i reboot i lost the changes
[20:44] <tomreyn> juacom99: can you run: "which route"
[20:44] <Stochastix_> Is there a particular mailx application that I should be running?
[20:44] <EriC^^> Danoded: what's on the 500gb and 1000gb hdd?
[20:44] <juacom99> yes sure /sbin/route
[20:44] <Stochastix_> Like what package does it come with to have the -S  switch ?
[20:45] <tomreyn> juacom99: now: dpkg -S /sbin/route
[20:45] <Danoded> EriC^^: Windows 7 installations
[20:45] <EriC^^> Danoded: on both?
[20:45] <Danoded> EriC^^: Oh yes yeah
[20:46] <juacom99> ok it seems that i got the package after all net-tools: /sbin/route
[20:46] <tomreyn> juacom99: i would think so, too.
[20:46] <tomreyn> juacom99: to confirm: dpkg -l net-tools
[20:48] <tomreyn> juacom99: i suggest you inspect your system logs then (/var/log/syslog primarily) then to get a better idea of why setting the rout via the "post-up" hook fails.
[20:48] <EriC^^> Danoded: the 500gb one is missing the smaller partition, i'm not sure if that's needed for booting or not
[20:49] <tomreyn> juacom99: maybe make that "post-up /sbin/route ..." in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:49] <Danoded> EriC^^: WD5?
[20:49] <EriC^^> Danoded: yeah
[20:49] <Danoded> Yeah it is, I'm not sure either though
[20:49] <Danoded> I'm unsure of how to go about fixing it
[20:49] <tomreyn> juacom99: since 14.04 is only supported until spring, you might want to consider an upgrade, too. 16.04 LTS has been around since spring 2016, 18.04 LTS will be enabled for LTS upgrades soon, probably early next month.
[20:50] <EriC^^> Danoded: try using the windows cd
[20:50] <Danoded> I''l try now yeah EriC^^
[20:50] <Danoded> thanks for the help also
[20:50] <EriC^^> Danoded: remove the swap partition there so if you need to make a small partition you can use that space
[20:51] <EriC^^> Danoded: try joining ##windows they can probably tell you exactly what you need to do
[20:51] <Danoded> I'm on both right now, was going to try using the windows cd if it didn't succeed.
[20:52] <Danoded> By the way, what command/s allows one to delete a partition in terminal?
[20:52] <EriC^^> Danoded: "sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb"
[20:52] <juacom99> tomreyn: ii  net-tools                                             1.60-25ubuntu2.1                amd64                           The NET-3 networking toolkit
[20:52] <Stochastix_> Is there something that changed in mailx that makes -S variable[=value]  not work anymore?
[20:52] <Danoded> Thank you again
[20:52] <EriC^^> Danoded: delete then "write" the new partition table
[20:53] <EriC^^> *delete the partitions
[20:53] <EriC^^> Danoded: no problem
[20:53] <nickInItaly> this is the new boot-repair log, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JXHmnW2MGQ/ if I give configfile (hd0,gpt2)/efi/grub/grub.cfg it starts the menu correctly, but if I look at the settings I see EFI in capitals.
[20:53] <nickInItaly> which seem tp be pointing to the right place. is it a case sensitivity issue?
[20:53] <juacom99> tomreyn: this machin is froma  ova, i don't know if i'll be able to update
[20:53] <nickInItaly> (settings = set)
[20:54] <tomreyn> juacom99: what's ova?
[20:55] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: no
[20:55] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: have you booted into ubuntu right now?
[20:55] <tomreyn> juacom99: this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Virtualization_Format
[20:55] <nickInItaly> Eric: Yeah, I'm in now
[20:56] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: what does "ls /sys/firmware/efi" give?
[20:56] <juacom99> yes that
[20:56] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: does it list files or no dir found?
[20:56] <nickInItaly> config_table  fw_platform_size  runtime      systab
[20:56] <nickInItaly> efivars       fw_vendor         runtime-map  vars
[20:57] <nickInItaly> no, it lists stuff.
[20:57] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: ok, type "sudo ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999" and pastebin the link
[20:57] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: also "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:58] <nickInItaly> http://termbin.com/db4ue
[20:58] <tomreyn> juacom99: well, talk to who developed / supports it.
[20:58] <nickInItaly> sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:58] <nickInItaly> http://termbin.com/mx2i
[20:59] <tomreyn> juacom99: you should also turn to them for support, appliances are meant to be vendor managed and supported.
[20:59] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: try "sudo rsync /boot/efi/efi/grub/ /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"   (the trailing / after grub is important)
[21:00] <nickInItaly> skipping directory .
[21:01] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: what are the files from "sudo ls /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu" now?
[21:01] <EriC^^> any grub/shim.efi's?
[21:02] <nickInItaly> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q9WSmx2tqw/
[21:03] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: hmm, try "sudo -i" then type "cp /boot/efi/efi/grub/* /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu"
[21:04] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: which ubuntu version are you using?
[21:04] <nickInItaly> 18.04, downloaded yesterday
[21:05] <EriC^^> aha i see
[21:05] <nickInItaly> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sNRjd7zvy8/
[21:05] <nickInItaly> was that a bad plan?
[21:05] <nickInItaly> ;)
[21:05] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: ok, try rebooting and see how it goes
[21:06] <nickInItaly> ok, I'll be back
[21:07] <nickInItaly> yeah!! that did it! thanks so much!
[21:08] <EriC^^> nickInItaly: great! no problem
[21:10] <nickInItaly> yeah. thanks a lot guys... going to bed!
[21:20] <linuxbox> i'm having trouble with installing a new plymouth theme for ubuntu - tried creating a new symbolic link to the new theme but it keeps telling me to use help for proper update-alternatives program usage information
[21:22] <oerheks> maybe this page is a help https://askubuntu.com/questions/773723/using-update-alternatives-to-change-plymouth-theme-only-affects-shutdown-animati
[21:23] <Stochastix_> s-nail  freaking NAILed it
[21:26] <qwebirc8249> hi
[21:26] <qwebirc8249> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MfGNPgn2x6/
[21:26] <qwebirc8249> facing issue with GUI starting
[21:27] <qwebirc8249> can somebody help me
[21:27] <qwebirc8249> struggling with the GRUB 2.02 for a while
[21:27] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: were you here in the morning?
[21:28] <qwebirc8249> yes I was
[21:28] <qwebirc8249> tried for a while
[21:28] <qwebirc8249> and yet here I am back with no luck
[21:29] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: didn't ubuntu boot?
[21:29] <qwebirc8249> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MfGNPgn2x6/ is the snapshot for the boot repair yet at the same palce
[21:29] <qwebirc8249> upon booting its opening the same GNU GRUB v2.02 console
[21:30] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: didn't it work after we copied the files from efi/grub to efi/ubuntu?
[21:30] <qwebirc8249> instead of the GUI console
[21:30] <EriC^^> are you the guy called payne-something?
[21:30] <hfp> Hmmm is it only me or traceroute6 has an issue displaying the fqdn its tracing to? Look at L2 vs L6: https://dpaste.de/7dz8
[21:30] <qwebirc8249> @Eric guess you confused me with somebody else
[21:30] <qwebirc8249> I just got some URL for some help
[21:31] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: ok, are you booted in the live usb on the pc right now?
[21:31] <qwebirc8249> let me do it right away
[21:32] <qwebirc8249> I am there now
[21:32] <qwebirc8249> up with live usb
[21:32] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:33] <EriC^^> paste the link it gives you here
[21:33] <linuxbox> looks great thank you gusy - now i'd love to change the lock screen that shows up after a full reboot
[21:33] <qwebirc8249> ok
[21:34] <qwebirc8249> http://termbin.com/jbc1
[21:35] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: type "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[21:35] <qwebirc8249> done
[21:36] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: type "ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:37] <qwebirc8249> so with my limited understanding Eric you have mounted the other partition, rite?
[21:37] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: yeah, i've mounted the efi partition
[21:38] <qwebirc8249> termbin.com/ncd9
[21:39] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: type "sudo cp /mnt/efi/grub/* /mnt/efi/ubuntu"
[21:40] <qwebirc8249> done
[21:40] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: try rebooting
[21:40] <qwebirc8249> ok
[21:41] <qwebirc8249> something new this time
[21:41] <qwebirc8249> blue console type cam eup
[21:41] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: aha
[21:41] <EriC^^> type "echo $root"
[21:41] <qwebirc8249> superb... it looks like its booting now
[21:41] <EriC^^> ok cool
[21:42] <qwebirc8249> awesome Eric
[21:42] <EriC^^> once it boots, try "sudo update-grub"
[21:42] <qwebirc8249> finally it booted
[21:42] <qwebirc8249> doing the same
[21:42] <qwebirc8249> @Eric you are a pro
[21:43] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: can you type "cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[21:43] <qwebirc8249> one last question, is there some place that you suggest to read to understand the file structure of Ubuntu for future learning
[21:43] <EriC^^> trying to see why you're getting the blue grub menu instead of the purple one
[21:44] <EriC^^> !hier | qwebirc8249
[21:44] <qwebirc8249> termbin.com/13mf
[21:44] <uebera||> apteryx: I just found that dnsmasq actually has an option which allows you to bind a specific IP to a specific MAC address ("as usually expected"): ``Read /etc/ethers for information about hosts for the DHCP server. The format of /etc/ethers is a hardware address, followed by either a hostname or dotted-quad IP address. ' '
[21:45] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: ah, thanks pretty empty
[21:45] <qwebirc8249> was it supposed to be having some content in there
[21:45] <qwebirc8249> thanks ubottu :)
[21:46] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: type "sudo wget -O /etc/default/grub http://termbin.com/r4gr"
[21:46] <EriC^^> that's the default 18.04 file
[21:47] <EriC^^> then run "sudo update-grub"
[21:47] <pjs> a whole lot of grub issues the last few days (myself included)
[21:47] <uebera||> I'd like to get rid of the NetworkManager.service; however, "systemctl stop NetworkManager.service; systemctl disable NetworkManager.service; reboot" again resulted in NM writing /etc/resolv.conf. How to prevent this forever?
[21:49] <oerheks> pjs, yes, we have noticed too
[21:49] <qwebirc8249> done
[21:49] <qwebirc8249> was it Zero or O?
[21:49] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: ok try rebooting see how stuff is
[21:49] <kenrin> Why don't you use mask instead of disable
[21:49] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: O
[21:51] <qwebirc8249> installing update..
[21:51] <pjs> Everyone with grub issues, please check this bug (just opened): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1781042  If it's your same issue, please add to the bug so it can get attention.
[21:51] <pjs> There are already a few people responding with the same issue (exactly what my issue is)
[21:51] <uebera||> kenrin: Thanks, I've added that as well. Let's see...
[21:58] <qwebirc8249> hey Eric
[21:58] <qwebirc8249> so finally the machine restarted
[21:58] <qwebirc8249> and looks good so far
[21:58] <RtMF> ..first red that as qebecbird...wtf
[21:58] <RtMF> *read
[21:59] <EriC^^> qwebirc8249: ok, cool
[22:00] <qwebirc8249> thanks a lot bud
[22:00] <qwebirc8249> really appreciate your help and cool expertise :)
[22:00] <EriC^^> no problem
[22:04] <pjs> Anyone with grub issues, I now have mine resolved. Follow the thread here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2396050
[22:21] <bobbydoogle> If im in the installer and don't see wi fi networks, whats the best next steps, I"m trying to install ubuntu on a new Lenovo y530
[22:22] <bobbydoogle> kindof a make or break to use ubuntu on the laptop
[22:23] <bobbydoogle> it reports an intel corporation wi fi.... but this isnt my network
[22:23] <linuxbox> hrm i can't seem to boot into terminal, cntrl alt f1 isnt' working
[22:25] <fluvvell> testing...
[22:25] <bobbydoogle> In try ubuntu I'm getting wi-fi is off.... turn on wi fi button does nothing.
[22:26] <Rumen> Hello there! I have a question. When I try to change the video card driver from Xorg to Nvidia nothing happens. Automatically returns to Xorg after aplly changes .... When I try to install driver from Synaptic the drivers from "Software & updates " I see it as manually installed and many funtions doesn't work at all. Already tried to purge the nvidia* and got 640x480 screen and when try to install the driver via terminal got broken dependancies which can not
[22:26] <Rumen> fix with "sudo apt --fix-bronen" or how it was the command don't rememmber it.
[22:27] <Rumen> Any idea how to fix that?
[22:27]  * RtMF sneks at bronen
[22:27] <RtMF> G?
[22:27] <RtMF> :-P
[22:27]  * RtMF is pparently the snark today.
[22:28] <RtMF> The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog./
[22:28] <RtMF> \
[22:28] <RtMF> damnit hti enter.
[22:28] <bobbydoogle> windows is connecting just fine so I suspect I have a driver issue.... Looks like Inter(R) Wireless-AC 9560.... supported?
[22:28]  * RtMF unsetcap(RtMF,CAP_GROUP_TYPING_REQUIRED);
[22:29] <bobbydoogle> I see it here: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005511/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html, I'm just wondering, I can't install in a  live environment right? Only way to test is install ubuntu and try to install driver?
[22:34] <jack> hi
[22:35] <JFox762> everytime I close the lid on my laptop, it disconnects... and forces me to have to pair it again.
[22:35] <JFox762> oops
[22:35] <JFox762> Im having an issue with my bluetooth connections
[22:35] <JFox762> everytime I clos ethe lid on my laptop, it disconnects... and forces me to have to pair it again.
[22:44] <oerheks> install dconf-tools, open dconf Editor application, go to org => gnome => setting-deamon => plugins => power - there search for lid-close-action
[22:45] <oerheks> change to 'nothing'
[22:46] <geri_> hi what does that mean?https://ideone.com/NbcFry ->
[22:46] <geri_> https://ideone.com/NbcFry
[22:52] <oerheks> geri_, better ask in the #python channels .. or Alpine ?
[22:55] <hans_> i need to unmount / , while still keeping a `nc 9999 | dd of=/dev/sda status=progress`  alive, any suggestions on how?
[22:57] <tomreyn> hans_: not. what are you trying to do there, what'S the greater picture?
[22:57] <hans_> i have a backup of the harddrive on another computer that i'd like to restore.
[22:58] <multifractal> How come I can only connect to the internet as long as my NordVPN is connected? Otherwise I juse see "no internet connection" errors in all programs, chrome, firefox, smuxi irc, etc.
[22:58] <tomreyn> okay, that's maybe not the greatest approach but yould work,. but you'll need to boot the system from a live usb / cd or whatever
[22:59] <tomreyn> hans_: ^
[22:59] <tomreyn> yould -> should
[23:00] <tomreyn> hans_: that's assuming your current / is a partition on sda
[23:00] <hans_> tomreyn, yes it is.
[23:01] <tomreyn> hans_: also make sure you dont mix up partitions and storages there. is the backup image you have there of all of sda or just a partition on it, such as sda2
[23:01] <hans_> it's the entire disk, /dev/sda
[23:02] <tomreyn> wenn then bring it up wform a live system and run netcat there and pray that no checksumming will be necessary.
[23:02] <hans_> oh no, i'm not running secure boot or anything like that
[23:04] <tomreyn> i was referring to the storage image data as it transfers over the network. but in fact there is tcp checksumming if you'll use tcp.
[23:04] <hans_> i am using tpc, and it's just over a local LAN, unless there's a power outage, it should be a very reliable connection
[23:05] <hans_> tcp*
[23:05] <tomreyn> not using tcp, mnn, well then i'm puzzled how you'll transfer the data.
[23:05] <hans_> but.. if i want to be 100% certain afterwards, i guess i can just md5 disk.img and md5 /dev/sda
[23:06] <hans_> i *am*  using tcp.
[23:06] <tomreyn> oh, sorry
[23:06] <tomreyn> i should clean my glasses.
[23:06] <hans_> (well, i could use UDP, but then the chance of corruption is much higher :p i won't risk that)
[23:09] <tomreyn> multifractal: this is a customer support question for your vpn provider, unless you'll explain which protoco9ls you're using, and how it's configured.
[23:10] <tomreyn> (it still is then, but then we might also be able to help)
[23:10] <jnewt> Computer locks up when dragging Firefox from one monitor to another with a video playing.  How to unlock when ctrl alt F1-6 doesn't do anything?
[23:11] <multifractal> tomreyn: OpenVPN, configured with network manager, as shown here. https://nordvpn.com/tutorials/linux/openvpn/ This issue just appeared out of the blue a couple of days ago, despite months of smooth usage.
[23:12] <tomreyn> jnewt: locks up as in freezes? does the mouse pointer still move? can you still do anything using mouse and kleyboard? if not, it's time for a reboot then. and this should not happen in the first place, suggests something si pretty wrong.
[23:14] <jnewt> Tomreyn, yes frozen, no mouse, no keyboard, bunch of unsaved work in a doc from the last hour or two.
[23:15] <hans_> neat, seems i'm getting away with just setting everything as "ro" in /etc/fstab, rebooting, and trafering. https://i.imgur.com/BBYY4hF.png
[23:15] <hans_> as long as nothing try to read anything from the disk, i guess i'm good (until crontab crash the system trying to read something?)
[23:18] <tomreyn> multifractal: i suggest you diagnose with them if it just happened to change out of nowhere recently
[23:18] <tomreyn> jnewt: there's nothing you can do other than ...
[23:19] <tomreyn> !sysrq | jnewt
[23:19] <tomreyn> but your work is probably lost, unless it was incrementally stored to disk while you edited it.
[23:22] <multifractal_> tomreyn: Thanks. FWIW the Nord support people told me to modify a file called /etc/resolv.conf and replace 2 IP addresses with new ones that he provided.  (Not sure what these are -something to do with DNS servers he mentioned maybe?). Anyway now it all seems to work normally, even when VPN is turned off.
[23:22] <stacks88> so i have mysql 5.7 server installed already. i ran a apt install command that included "mariadb-server". so i quickly hit ctrl+c https://i.imgur.com/qrEhEzo.png -- have i stopped things in time?
[23:22] <tomreyn> hans_: 'ro' in fstab doesn't prevent the system from reading off the disk on next boot. but it may still work, as long as you are writing to the raw device.
[23:23] <hans_> tomreyn, definitely, as /etc/fstab is also completely overwritten (with a NTFS filesystem no less)
[23:24] <multifractal_> tomreyn: I'd still be interested to hear an explanation of what caused this problem, if you have the enthusiasm.
[23:24] <hans_> i just needed the system to boot ro so it didn't corrupt my disk restore
[23:24] <tomreyn> multifractal_: this file defined the resolvers to be used by your system. it is pretty crucial these are trustable, otherwise when you access e.g. your online banking website you might actually end up on a completely different website run by someone else.
[23:24] <hans_> if anything is writing to disk while this is running, it will corrupt my restore, but that shouldn't happen when everything is mounted with ro
[23:26] <JFox762> oerheks... but the bluetooth also randomly disconnects for seemingly no reaosn
[23:27] <tomreyn> multifractal_: an explanation will take long until you've read up on how resolvers work. i can explain how things change when you use a vpn, but please read up on how resolvers work first of all.
[23:27] <multifractal_> tomreyn: thanks will do
[23:28] <tomreyn> hans_: i don't know what you refer to by "my restore", but you seem to be experienced and i trust that you know what you're doing there. ;)
[23:28] <tomreyn> * "my *disk* restore"
[23:32] <JFox762> anyone know how I can fix this issue I'm having iwth my bluetooth mouse? It keeps disconnectin
[23:32] <oerheks> recharge battery?
[23:36] <hggdh> hans_: just some observations -- you will have a new disk image that does not match what the current system *thinks* is real. The fact you booted successfully does not make this "new" disk sane
[23:37] <hggdh> hans_: this is a fantactic way to play russina roulette
[23:39] <AngaMalta> #blenderchat
[23:46] <zuzia> hi
[23:47] <zuzia> anyone know how to convert *.nib file to *.d64 on linux?
[23:50] <tomreyn> multifractal_: if you prefer watching videos over reading then watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o8CwafCxnU
[23:55] <oerheks> zuzia, d64 or c64 ?
[23:55] <zuzia> d
[23:55] <zuzia> coz is c64 rom
[23:55] <zuzia> but d
[23:56] <zuzia> nib is apple disc image
[23:56] <zuzia> but i need program to convert nib to d64 coz emulator commodore "vice" not open nib if not converted
[23:57] <zuzia> nib tool work on windows
[23:57] <zuzia> i need linux version
[23:57] <oerheks> nibtools are for amd64 too https://c64preservation.com/files/nibtools/
[23:57] <oerheks> march 3 2018
[23:58] <zuzia> i not look procesor architecture i wont unpack file from nid directly to format commodore 64
[23:58] <zuzia> nib*
[23:59] <zuzia> nib > d64 or g64 coz all work in vice
[23:59] <hggdh> zuzia: amd64 is the generic name for 64-bit Intel-compatible chips
[23:59] <zuzia> i can do that on windows machine but i not wont :D


[23:03] <maxb> bug 1609847 is private but apport crashes are being marked as duplicates of it. Would someone be able to take a look and make it public if possible?
[23:03] <ubot5`> Error: Launchpad bug 1609847 could not be found
[23:23] <hggdh> maxb: set to public
[23:23] <hggdh> bug 1609847
[23:23] <ubot5`> bug 1609847 in terminator (Ubuntu) "terminator crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1609847
[23:24] <maxb> thanks


[09:24] <hfmanson_> hello, I'm using ubuntu 14.04.1 and since 3.13.0-43 i get kernel crash involving IPv6. Version 3.13.0-44 doesn't kernel panic, but I get 'BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at<PHONE_NUMBER>001268'. I have saved then dmesg output
[09:25] <hfmanson_> can i send the report somewhere, I don't think it is a hardware issue
[10:01] <apw> hfmanson_ (N,BFTL), yes, that sounds like a kernel bug, file a bug against linux "ubuntu-bug linux"
[10:51] <apw> jibel, can you remind me what time it is that the DKMS kernel checks occur?  i am asking becasue it feels like vivid is not being checked, as both the 3.18.0-9 in -release and 3.19.0-2 in the CKT PPA didn't fire last night; there are two fired manually to confirm the jobs work
[10:52] <apw> (and happy new year :)
[10:55] <jibel> apw, hey, happy new year :) They run at 02:something every day. I'll check why vivid didn't run.
[11:07] <apw> jibel, thanks :)
[11:10] <apw> jibel, i triggered "acpi_call_dkms" by had in both -v's just to check that the jobs themselves work
[11:15] <apw> jibel, according to launchpad the 3.18.0-9 hit -release 12 hours ago, so in theory at least in the pocket before 2am
[11:17] <jibel> apw, hm, there is something wrong with the scheduler, last run were 2015-01-09 07:51, 2015-01-11 11:13, 2015-01-13 14:45 . Not really my understanding of everyday at 02:something
[11:18] <apw> jibel, interesting, it is doing every other day by the looks of it
[11:21] <jibel> apw, no and there is no overlap between runs, last automated test ran on Jan 13, 2015 3:00:33 PM, so they should have run on the 14th@2AM
[11:21] <apw> jibel, because jenkins i assume
[11:23] <jibel> apw, yeah, I suppose jenkins has his own implementation of cron, NIH syndrome :)
[11:54] <apw> jibel, i see we finally got the sync'd views out in public for dkms, so we can finally see the utopic lts ones
[12:16] <apw> jibel, so in the importal words of the song "where do we go from here"


[05:25] <adueppen> I'm having an issue with reporting a bug in the Ubuntu GNOME daily image. The bug reporting guidelines tell me to do `lsb_release -rd` but I'm stuck in the restricted live session and am unable to open a terminal. I tried Alt-F1-F7 and it seems the GUI is running on the Alt-F1 tty. All the other options just take me to a screen with a cursor (not blinking). This is in Virtualbox.


[01:30] <smoser> suro-patz, there is code that should drop "real soon now" that should take the maas network config format and allow it to be applied.
[01:31] <smoser> this is to land in 16.04, so real soon.
[10:34] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: o/ I've added you as a reviewer for https://code.launchpad.net/~alexandru-sirbu/cloud-init/bigstep-datasource-improvements/+merge/288251 to confirm that it addresses your concerns about exceptions. :)
[20:07] <suro-patz> smoser: is the code under review? [ "that should take the maas network config format and allow it to be applied." ]
[20:07] <smoser> no. its still tbd.
[20:07] <smoser> ew will take the rendering code from curtin (lp:curtin curtin/net)
[20:08] <suro-patz> any tracking bug or so - for me to bookmark
[20:08] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1549403
[20:08] <suro-patz> smoser: thanks!
[20:09] <smoser> so far what has landed is just disabling of cloud-init
[20:09] <smoser> which doens't seem like much of a feature :)
[20:09] <smoser> but is nice.
[20:10] <suro-patz> smoser: it looks like what I am exactly looking for … But I am looking for RHEL … I can take up that work for RHEL
[20:11] <suro-patz> smoser: if you are working on this, please feel free to keep me in the loop, if that helps
[20:25] <smoser> ok, suro-patz i will
[20:26] <suro-patz> thanks smoser, I have subscribed to the bug updates too


[07:58] <tjaalton> ddebs.u.c doesn't have l-i-debug for 2.6.28-11, is there a way to build it myself?
[07:59] <tjaalton> (I'd like to use oprofile to find out what causes the extra load every ~15min)
[09:16] <vertix> vertix: for developers: check out http://cppgoldmine.uuuq.com programmer's goldmine library to find the answers on any of your issues or problems in C++
[09:19] <vertix> btw, no marketing or any other adds on those collections. it is totally clean site containing only articles in 100+ categories, nothing else
[16:56] <Kano> hi, still no aufs2 in there yet?
[16:56] <Kano> every other live cd is created via aufs(2) nowadays...
[16:58] <apw> Kano, heh, nope as strangly we have not yet had the UDS discussions on this matter, as they occur in a week
[16:59] <Kano> and you expect another result, do you
[17:01] <amitk> Kano: probably not, but who knows :)
[17:01] <Kano> thats basically impossible
[17:03] <amitk> Kano: but you welcome to attend the session at UDS where we discuss the issue
[17:03] <amitk> you can even dial in
[17:04] <Kano> the thing is, when you add aufs2 in the kernel + squashfs 4 userspace then your tools would already create working test images
[20:53] <tjaalton> how can I build just the debug debs from the kernel source? been trying to do that, since there's no ddeb for 2.6.28-11
[20:54] <rtg> tjaalton: you pretty much have to build the whole damn thing in order to get the debug debs
[20:56] <tjaalton> rtg: right, so changing 0-common-vars.mk so that it doesn't skip ddeb's should be enough?
[20:56] <tjaalton> and then debuild -b?
[20:56] <rtg> tjaalton: you could just 'sudo mkdir /CurrentlyBuilding' as well
[20:57] <tjaalton> heh, ok
[20:57] <rtg> then 'debuild -b'
[20:57] <rtg> either way should work
[20:58] <tjaalton> ok, let's see
[20:59] <BenC> rtg: I think /CurrentlyBuilding is just a file, not a dir
[20:59] <BenC> but probably will still work
[20:59] <rtg> BenC: I think it can be either, make just looks at the wildcard, doesn't it?
[21:00] <BenC> rtg: yeah, I think it's just an existence test
[21:03] <awe> rtg: are then good pointers on the kernel team's wiki pages for debugging crashes / restarts?  my machine (mbpro3 / amd64 ) reboots an awful lot after updating to jaunty.
[21:03] <awe> s/then/there/
[21:04] <rtg> awe: cold boots with no warning?
[21:04] <awe> yea
[21:04] <awe> usually re-sizing windows, but not always
[21:04] <rtg> those are tough.
[21:04] <rtg> awe: i915 ?
[21:04] <awe> nvida
[21:05] <awe> geforce 8600M GT
[21:05] <rtg> there is a section on debugging in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KnowledgeBase
[21:06] <awe> all i could find was the suspend/resume debugging page, but i'll look again
[21:06] <BenC> awe: using nvidia proprietary driver, or open source one?
[21:06] <awe> prop
[21:07] <rtg> awe: --> screwed
[21:07] <BenC> awe: best bet is to see if nvidia can help...I'd try switching to open source driver for a bit to see if it still happens though
[21:07] <awe> well, it's not like i wasn't told "it's recommended". ;)
[21:07] <awe> i'll switch back and see how that works...
[21:08] <rtg> awe: I've had to switch back to 2d before. the 3d driver was flickering and getting real annoying.
[21:09] <awe> alright, i'll give it a whirl
[21:09] <tjaalton> hmm, so my kernel (karmic) spends most of the time in read_hpet
[21:09] <infinity> rtg: It's definitely a file, not a directory.
[21:09] <rtg> infinity: the rule is 'ifeq ($(wildcard /CurrentlyBuilding),)'
[21:10] <infinity> rtg: Yeah, should work for anything, then.
[21:10] <infinity> rtg: Just pointing out that it's a file, should you ever do something with it in shell (say -f or -d)


[07:13] <dholbach> good morning
[07:14] <Kilos> hi dholbach svij dpm and others
[07:14] <dholbach> hi Kilos
[07:14] <Kilos> oh and MooDoo
[07:14] <dpm> o/
[07:14] <svij> hi Kilos, dpm and dholbach
[07:14] <dholbach> hey svij
[09:58] <nhaines> dholbach: not sure what I'm getting myself into.  :)  Anyway, I'm happy to join calls as required, if the Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase rises again!
[09:58] <dholbach> yoooohooo!
[10:03] <nhaines> He said, as he gets ready to sleep. :)
[10:08] <Kilos> sleep tight nhaines
[17:54] <juan-zapataj> What's up everyone! I just remembered about Global Jam. Who's in?


[13:36] <mark06> http://i.imgur.com/PtfK5y5.png
[16:02] <jelmer> mark06: is the ghost revision perhaps in the branch it was stacked on, rather than the branch itself?
[16:02] <jelmer> launchpad only stores revisions in each branch that were not in the branch it is stacked on (in other words, trunk)
[16:07] <mark06> yeah both revisions 16 and 63 are from the cloned branch pidgin++
[16:08] <mark06> maybe it's something related with tip handling? since rev 63 is just the latest
[16:10] <mark06> just tested it again and bzr tags -d :parent complains about the latest rev again, which is now 69
[16:10] <jelmer> mark06: it looks like it's a bug in the implementation of the smart server
[16:11] <mark06> could not get revno 16 because its ancestry shows a ghost at 69... but isn't it the opposite, 16 is ancestor of 69?
[16:11] <jelmer> mark06: what version of bzr are you running?
[16:11] <mark06> 2.5.1 on windows
[16:12] <jelmer> mark06: can you reproduce it if you use "bzr tags -d http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ren.../" instead?
[16:12] <jelmer> mark06: I can't reproduce the issue here FWIW, but I'm not logged into launchpad
[16:17] <mark06> http works :) http://i.imgur.com/Wk019f3.png
[16:18] <mark06> much better than http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~renatosilva/+junk/scripts/revision/224 :)
[16:20] <jelmer> mark06: so, seems like a smart server bug. please file one
[16:32] <mark06> bug 1350438
[16:33] <jelmer> mark06: thanks
[17:03] <mark06> thanks jelmer


[18:36] <The_DarkKnight> Everyone thinks someone else will do it
[18:36] <Hudu> https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.en.html
[18:36] <Draggin> The_DarkKnight, all of the developers working together on it will have a look.
[18:36] <CrazyTux> I am just a beginner in Linux and to Open source community. Moreover, I'm just an end user. All these things are new to me.
[18:36] <PianoSkulls> hey
[18:36] <The_DarkKnight> ???
[18:37] <The_DarkKnight> lol
[18:37] <PianoSkulls> is it safe to use fslint?
[18:37] <PianoSkulls> is it dangerous
[18:37] <The_DarkKnight> OR IS IT
[18:37] <oh2gba> Ubuntu uses the information about searches to show the user ads to buy various things from Amazon. Amazon commits many wrongs; by promoting Amazon, Canonical contributes to them. However, the ads are not the core of the problem. The main issue is the spying. Canonical says it does not tell Amazon who searched for what. However, it is just as bad for Canonical to collect your personal information as it would have been for Amazon
[18:37] <oh2gba> to collect it. Ubuntu surveillance is not anonymous.
[18:37] <oh2gba> that you can actually disable if you like.
[18:38] <k1l> PianoSkulls: it depends on what you delete after/with using fslint
[18:38] <Draggin> Gosh, oh2gba - I was actually unaware of this... o_O
[18:39] <CrazyTux> I am using Xubuntu. Is that issue present in Xubuntu also?
[18:39] <PianoSkulls> k1l, only dupes and temps
[18:39] <PianoSkulls> maybe redundant whitespace
[18:40] <k1l> CrazyTux: ubuntu doesnt have spyware in it.  the thing that was made the scandal as spyware, is a search bar that is named to online and local search. i guess you dont call firefox spyware because it searches online.
[18:41] <PianoSkulls> what's better? Fslint or bleachbit?
[18:41] <CrazyTux> ok
[18:41] <tatertots> the term or phrase "better" AND "best" are both "subjective" terms
[18:42] <nuxmuncher> i get that playing dvd's in ubuntu is 'illegal' but I'm guessing most/all of you have/do it... but reluctant to assist me in same...
[18:42] <tatertots> @PianoSkulls
[18:42] <nuxmuncher> can you at least point me to somewhere where I can get help
[18:42] <PianoSkulls> tatertots,  which one is safer
[18:42] <nuxmuncher> feeling sad and ignored here
[18:42] <k1l> PianoSkulls: automatic removes are never safe
[18:43] <myth_> When will hybrid graphics issue be solved ?
[18:43] <PianoSkulls> tatertots, i just want to clean the system from useless junk
[18:43] <k1l> PianoSkulls: and there is not that need to clean the system as it is on windows.
[18:43] <tatertots> PianoSkulls: safe is also subjective...it's "safe" for a fish to stay under water for 4 hours without additional equipment....for a human...not so much
[18:44] <k1l> !dvd | nuxmuncher
[18:44] <PianoSkulls> tatertots, technicalities and specifics lol
[18:45] <neildugan> just upgraded to 16.04 and the laptop now has no sound :-( ... I get a list of devices with "aplay -l" ... but the sound config shows no output devices
[18:45] <k1l> nuxmuncher: that linked page tells you what to do.
[18:45] <The_DarkKnight> Yo guys
[18:45] <love3> I love you all
[18:45] <nuxmuncher> done it.
[18:45] <nuxmuncher> don'
[18:45] <love3> Hey what's up
[18:45] <nuxmuncher> t work
[18:46] <k1l> nuxmuncher: what doesnt work exactly?
[18:46] <The_DarkKnight> Does this command automatically start running Guest Additions? "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-additions-iso"
[18:46] <nuxmuncher> drive plays music cd's but not dvd's (yes it's a dvd drive)
[18:46] <The_DarkKnight> ?
[18:47] <k1l> nuxmuncher: so what ubuntu is it exactly?
[18:47] <nuxmuncher> 16.04
[18:47] <k1l> nuxmuncher: is libdvd-pkg installed?
[18:47] <nuxmuncher> yes
[18:47] <The_DarkKnight> Does this command automatically start running Guest Additions? "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-additions-iso"
[18:47] <k1l> did it download and install libdvdcss?
[18:48] <Zborg> now how do you enable rc.local?
[18:49] <myth_> Does anyone here have hybrid graphics (Intel/Nvidia GeForce) and is able switch in between the Intel and Nvidia card without problems ?
[18:50] <nuxmuncher> can play audio cd with rythymbox or vlc without any issue
[18:50] <k1l> myth_: did you install the nvidia driver offered on the system-settings -> software and updates?
[18:50] <nuxmuncher> but movie dvd not even recognized
[18:51] <k1l> nuxmuncher: that is not related to libdvdcss. so did it install properly?
[18:51] <nuxmuncher> yes
[18:51] <nuxmuncher> how can I prove this to you?
[18:51] <myth_> Yes I did and it doesn't work well with the Intel card, it works with the Nvidia card only
[18:51] <nuxmuncher> i have libdvdcss2 anyway
[18:51] <myth_> anytime I switch to the intel card I get many xserver bugs
[18:52] <k1l> nuxmuncher: if its installed there are still some DVDs with DRM, that are not supported by libdvdcss and linux.
[18:52] <cokehead> Hi.
[18:52] <nuxmuncher> how can I spot these dvd's?
[18:54] <k1l> nuxmuncher: i dont know. maybe look if others got issues with playing that dvd on linux
[18:54] <cokehead> i got issues
[18:54] <cokehead> cokeheads!
[19:03] <ikonia> win 1
[19:12] <denaras> Is this command would be good to check if current database from backup does not have any corruption pg_dumpall > /dev/null 2> dump.err  ?
[19:13] <nuxmuncher> can u suggest another 'flavor' where this works 'out of the box' i think i heard linux mint was good... any other suggestions?
[19:14] <nuxmuncher> blowz my mind that I can't play a dvd movie in ubuntu :(
[19:16] <manish> hi
[19:17] <BluesKaj> nuxmuncher, install vlc
[19:17] <tatertots> he's already tried vlc
[19:17] <ioria> nuxmuncher, have you tried other dvds ? and what player are you using ?
[19:17] <tatertots> he only has a single dvd disc to try it sounds like
[19:17] <nuxmuncher> vlc and rythymbox play audio cds no problem
[19:18] <tatertots> which could be a single point of failure
[19:18] <nuxmuncher> but dvds not even recognized
[19:18] <tatertots> nuxmuncher: sudo apt install inxi
[19:18] <tatertots> nuxmuncher: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[19:18] <BluesKaj> how old is this machine nuxmuncher?
[19:19] <ioria> nuxmuncher, could be a codec issue, or regionset issue ... and try the default player Videos (totem)
[19:19] <nuxmuncher> bought 2013 but it's top notch... 32gig ram
[19:19] <REMOTA> hello
[19:19] <tatertots> nuxmuncher: just hollar at me once install is completed, or if you'd rather keep doing what you've been doing the last hour or so ..have at it
[19:19] <nuxmuncher> installed inxi.. now what
[19:19] <manish>  hey remota
[19:20] <tatertots> nuxmuncher: you need pastebinit also...that's why i appended it
[19:20] <nuxmuncher> tried regionset tweak.. din't work
[19:20] <zol> How can I get virtualenv to use my zsh prompt? Whenever I activate a virtualenv it gives me a blank prompt.
[19:20] <nuxmuncher> complete tatertots
[19:20] <tatertots> nuxmuncher:  inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[19:21] <tatertots> nuxmuncher: share url/link here
[19:21] <tatertots> nuxmuncher: once you complete that step successfully i'll issue you a new instruction
[19:21] <nuxmuncher> done pastebinit..
[19:21] <manish> is there any alternative for aircrack-ng
[19:21] <tatertots> link?
[19:22] <nuxmuncher> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23847680/
[19:22] <tatertots> nuxmuncher:  inxi -Ddx|pastebinit
[19:22] <tatertots> nuxmuncher: share url/link here
[19:22] <manish> that would work for wpa2 connections?
[19:22] <tatertots> link?
[19:22] <nuxmuncher> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23847682/
[19:23] <ioria> nuxmuncher, dpkg -l  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:23] <tatertots> nuxmuncher: try that last one again...it looks ugly and not right
[19:24] <tatertots> nuxmuncher:  inxi -Ddx|pastebinit
[19:24] <tatertots> link?
[19:25] <REMOTA> how are you?
[19:25] <ubuntu> good
[19:25] <REMOTA> can i add bots here?
[19:25] <REMOTA> in other channel
[19:25] <Guest29504> any slackware users here?
[19:26] <gandbarel> Привет. Есть кто по русски разговаривает?
[19:26] <nuxmuncher> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23847706/
[19:26] <PianoSkulls> gandbarel, are u the only russian here?
[19:26] <gandbarel> ))))
[19:27] <tatertots> nuxmuncher: that looks hideous...shouldn't look that way..something is up
[19:27] <gandbarel> i don't no
[19:27] <nuxmuncher> ioria... it's version 65.. if that helps
[19:27] <PianoSkulls> gandbarel, btw I'm not russian, just curious
[19:27] <nuxmuncher> amd64 arch
[19:27] <gandbarel> Бля русские есть?????
[19:28] <k1l> !ru | gandbarel
[19:28] <ioria> nuxmuncher, ls /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[19:28] <gandbarel> Senks
[19:28] <nuxmuncher> hideous is possible... i have been trying to repair this for hours... probably messed up alot of stuff
[19:28] <PianoSkulls> gandbarel was that some russian slang? google couldn't translate it
[19:29] <PianoSkulls> at least i dont think it did it right
[19:29] <gandbarel> thx
[19:29] <nuxmuncher> ioria: stav@scrmr:~$ ls /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[19:29] <nuxmuncher> ls: cannot access '/usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh': No such file or directory
[19:30] <ioria> !info  libdvdread4 xenial
[19:31] <Johnson1977> what does this command do: cut -d: -f1 /etc/passwd
[19:31] <nuxmuncher> tatertots.. I retrograded video cart to X.org thinking this would help... somehow had notion that something to do with ttf-mscorefonts bug that kept popping up
[19:31] <ioria> nuxmuncher, the manual suggests, for xenial, libdvd-pkg , libdvdread4 is for previous version .... but it's in the repo ... we could try
[19:31] <nuxmuncher> ... tried alot of stuff
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> Johnson1977  it cuts out the first column of /etc/passwd-
[19:32] <nuxmuncher> already installed libdvd-pkg... doesn't help
[19:32] <Johnson1977> mmm now would that be used
[19:32] <ioria> nuxmuncher, yeah, you might need a manual install of ttf but not sure it's related
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> Johnson1977  do you need it for something?
[19:33] <Johnson1977> I just saw that command was run, dont know who or why
[19:33] <nuxmuncher> tatertots... are u gonna leave me at 'hideous'... makes me feel cheap
[19:33] <ioria> nuxmuncher,  sudo apt install libdvdread4
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> Johnson1977  run where?
[19:33] <Johnson1977> on my machine
[19:34] <Johnson1977> on my server
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> Johnson1977  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[19:34] <allard> hi people
[19:34] <nuxmuncher> libdvdread4 is already the newest version (5.0.3-1).
[19:34] <Johnson1977> what does this command do: cut -d: -f1 /etc/passwd
[19:34] <Johnson1977> and why would that be run
[19:35] <Johnson1977> whats in the first collumn of /etc/passwd
[19:35] <ioria> nuxmuncher, ls /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh   again please
[19:35] <nuxmuncher> stav@scrmr:~$ ls /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[19:35] <nuxmuncher> ls: cannot access '/usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh': No such file or directory
[19:36] <tatertots> nuxmuncher: well it's not supposed to look ugly like that...look at mine compared to yours
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> Johnson1977  how many people have acces to your server
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> ?
[19:36] <Johnson1977> only me...
[19:36] <ioria> nuxmuncher,  have you rebooted since you installed  libdvd-pkg ?
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> Johnson1977  then there's something you're not telling, it doesnt make sense
[19:37] <nuxmuncher> tatertots... don't know what u call ugly...
[19:37] <nuxmuncher> ioria: ive rebooted since yes
[19:37] <m1nev> Johnson1977 why dont u test this command by yourself?
[19:37] <tatertots> nuxmuncher: https://gist.github.com/3383cd91a9187701939b1eed52da35a9
[19:38] <manish> hey..anyone who tried installing ubuntu touch on a samsung phone?
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> !touch | manish
[19:38] <ioria> nuxmuncher,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure libdvd-pkg
[19:39] <tatertots> nuxmuncher: ah it's just ugly in the link
[19:39] <tatertots> nuxmuncher: inxi -Ddx
[19:39] <nuxmuncher> tatertots... im not a programmer ... calling that 'clean' or 'chinchilla' means the same to me
[19:40] <manish> ubottu: i know.. none of the samsung phone is mentioned in the link
[19:40] <nuxmuncher> ioria: ive already tried that.. didnt help
[19:40] <nuxmuncher> libdvd-pkg: guest package [libdvdcss2/1.4.0-1~local] is already installed.
[19:41] <ioria> nuxmuncher,  vm ?
[19:41] <nuxmuncher> tatertots: Drives:    HDD Total Size: 2250.5GB (23.2% used)
[19:41] <nuxmuncher>            ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_840 size: 250.1GB temp: 0C
[19:41] <nuxmuncher>            ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD1002FAEX size: 1000.2GB temp: 39C
[19:41] <nuxmuncher>            ID-3: /dev/sdc model: WDC_WD5002AALX size: 500.1GB temp: 37C
[19:41] <nuxmuncher>            ID-4: USB /dev/sdd model: FreeAgentDesktop size: 500.1GB temp: 0C
[19:41] <nuxmuncher>            Optical: /dev/sr0 model: ASUS DRW-24B1ST   a
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> nuxmuncher  next time, use a pastebin ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:42] <ioria> nuxmuncher,  is that a virtual machine ?
[19:43] <nuxmuncher> ioria no it is not a virtual machine
[19:43] <nuxmuncher> dvd drive is on box with ubuntu 16.04 lts installed on in
[19:43] <nuxmuncher> it
[19:44] <manish> ubuntu 16.10 users?
[19:45] <ioria> nuxmuncher, what happens when you insert the dvd ?
[19:45] <nuxmuncher> drive spits and stirs and whirs.. but never appears in file manager
[19:45] <nuxmuncher> when I try to open from vlc it dont work
[19:46] <EriC^^> nuxmuncher: anything in "dmesg"
[19:46] <gtxbb> you might need to be a member of a special group ("video" ?) in order to open the dvd
[19:47] <EriC^^> maybe the group "cdrom" ?
[19:47] <ioria> nuxmuncher, with the disk inside run 'sudo parted -l'    and see if /dev/sr0 shows up
[19:49] <nuxmuncher> dmesg gives me a crazy long string of code with alot of red text in it
[19:49] <EriC^^> nuxmuncher: try sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt
[19:49] <inafking> Hi there, can I ask a question about xorg.conf and radeon driver?
[19:50] <Guest16862> hello
[19:50] <EriC^^> inafking: sure
[19:50] <inafking> Hi
[19:51] <Bashing-om> inafking: If it is ubuntu as the OS , sure ask away .
[19:51] <nuxmuncher> ioria: /dev/sr0 does not show up
[19:51] <ioria> nuxmuncher, ok... what dvd is that ?
[19:51] <nuxmuncher> ASUS make
[19:51] <nuxmuncher> .. if that's what you're asking.
[19:51] <ioria> nuxmuncher, i mean the disc ...
[19:51] <nuxmuncher> I've seen the specs befor
[19:52] <nuxmuncher> oh... it's purchased dvd video
[19:52] <EriC^^> nuxmuncher: try sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt
[19:52] <nuxmuncher> no spec's at all otherwise
[19:52] <nuxmuncher> wouldn't even know how to verify
[19:53] <nuxmuncher> eric: mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0
[19:53] <inafking> Well, the thing is that I've the following xorg.conf
[19:53] <inafking> http://pastebin.com/ZR7m9e3x
[19:54] <inafking> And the Xorg.0.log complained that it didn't detect my card which is an AMDAPU BTW
[19:54] <ioria> nuxmuncher, and no other disc available for testing ?
[19:54] <inafking> Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/J13wCN8D
[19:55] <EriC^^> nuxmuncher: does the dvd work in another pc?
[19:55] <jek404> hey
[19:55] <jek404> can anyone see me
[19:56] <inafking> I could about the same settings on another PC but it had a Radeon HD 5450 and worked flawlessly
[19:56] <EriC^^> jek404: yes
[19:56] <inafking> It detected all my custom modelines
[19:56] <Bashing-om> inafking: reading, in the meantime .. what release is this ? As there is no proprietary drivers in 16.04+ .
[19:56] <jek404> ive had cannot send to channel errors
[19:56] <inafking> Of course, it's 16.04 with the opensource radeon driver
[19:57] <nuxmuncher> ioria:  i tried another dvd and yes it works.. i feel like a knob..
[19:57] <EriC^^> jek404: you might need to register your nick
[19:57] <nuxmuncher> i guess the dvd itself is borky
[19:57] <nuxmuncher> sincere thanks to everyone here
[19:57] <jek404> I'm working on it but havent been able yet
[19:58] <EriC^^> nuxmuncher: could be it's not supported as k1l said, try on another operating system if you get the chance
[19:58] <ioria> nuxmuncher, ok
[19:58] <EriC^^> jek404: /msg nickserv register <password> <email>
[19:59] <inafking> whoops, I read some post about a broken dvd but were directed to other people, LOL
[20:00] <Bashing-om> inafking: Let's back up and regroup ' booting " ro nomodeset " then the fall back driver ( mesa ??) will be used . What is the original issue you are attempting to resolve ? Can we not go back to defaults and see what the problems are ?
[20:01] <inafking> Well, that's what's I was trying to avoid. Use the fallback driver, since I need to use custom modelines that emit in 15Khz for my CRT TV
[20:01] <inafking> Only the radeon driver supports 15Khz resolutions
[20:01] <inafking> Apart from the nvidia driver which I don't have an nvidia card
[20:02] <BlueProtoman> I have a laptop that runs both Ubuntu 16.10 and Windows 8.1.  Every time I boot up, my system time is always incorrect, regardless of which operating system.  It seems to be set about eight months in the past.  Why does this happen and what can I do about it?
[20:02] <EriC^^> BlueProtoman: set the hardware clock maybe
[20:02] <yell0w_viper> BlueProtoman: send stock tips to your past self.
[20:03] <Bashing-om> inafking: Well .. ya done jumped over my experience level . but for sure you will need to work out "nomodeset" to use the radeon driver .
[20:03] <BlueProtoman> yell0w_viper: Tried that, got angry letters from the SEC.  Gonna try telling my past self to bet on the election, though.
[20:03] <BlueProtoman> EriC^^: How, in the BIOS?
[20:04] <EriC^^> BlueProtoman: yes
[20:05] <BlueProtoman> EriC^^: Will do next time I boot up, thank you.
[20:05] <BlueProtoman> New problem; my webcam doesn't work.  I tried several applications (though only on Linux, haven't tried Windows), but nothing recognizes my webcam.
[20:05] <EriC^^> BlueProtoman: i think you can do it from the terminal too with sudo hwclock --systohc
[20:06] <EriC^^> it sets the hardware clock to the system clock as per man page
[20:06] <BlueProtoman> EriC^^: Huh, fancy that.  Next time I boot I'll see if it had an effect, thanks!
[20:06] <EriC^^> BlueProtoman: no problem
[20:07] <Bashing-om> BlueProtoman: Once the hardware clock is set .. as dual booting . ya might benefit : http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/time-differences-ubuntu-1604-windows-10/ .
[20:07] <BlueProtoman> Bashing-om: I'll bet English people never have to deal with that problem
[20:08] <Bashing-om> BlueProtoman: Wrong .. there .. as Windows wants to control the HWclock as local time .. and linux is UTC .
[20:08] <BlueProtoman> Bashing-om: But UTC == GMT, right?
[20:09] <EriC^^> no
[20:09] <BlueProtoman> Huh.
[20:09] <BlueProtoman> Well, I've been wrong before.
[20:09] <BlueProtoman> Anyway, webcam.  What do?
[20:10] <Bashing-om> BlueProtoman: Correct .. but Windows does the conversion to local rather then UTC . One has to give to the other to keep the time correct on the respective systems .
[20:10] <EriC^^> BlueProtoman: seems it's the same but with minor differences
[20:12] <anis_> MOV : ANIS
[20:17] <chris___> bsh scrpts?
[20:18] <ioria> chris___, https://www.shellcheck.net/
[20:18] <chris___> TTM
[20:19] <chris___> thx
[20:24] <mikeypizano> hello, does anyone know how to fix the battery charge monitor applete? mine shows an empty battery (percentage works but batter icon is empty( http://i.imgur.com/gsud9V8.png
[20:27] <rando> www.pihid.net
[20:30] <chris___> ACE needs dev setup, or stand-alone ...
[20:35] <miczac> Hi, is there an extra channel for ufw?
[20:35] <Nanakix> Hello, is someone available for troobleshooting backlight on a laptop?
[20:37] <Bashing-om> !alis | miczac
[20:41] <chris___> (mikeypizano) go into xfce or lxde for system.prefs icons and switch loader with clean loader
[20:41] <chris___> (mikeypizano) https://www.freshports.org/sanity_test_failures.php
[20:42] <chris___> (mikeypizano) http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/21/year/2016/month/01/day/24
[20:43] <chris___> (mikeypizano) ... also check systempreferences , app settings should be in there, it's an RPM
[20:45] <math-alpha> hi guys i have issues dual booting windows  and ubuntu
[20:45] <ramikilany> can i have a GUI on ubuntu server?
[20:45] <bekks> ramikilany: Sure.
[20:46] <ramikilany> how may i?
[20:46] <chris___> re-install gnome-desktop on top
[20:46] <k1l> ramikilany: where is the server located?
[20:46] <bekks> ramikilany: by installing the desktop environment of  your choice.
[20:46] <math-alpha> chris__ you mean hi guys i have issues dual booting windows  and ubuntu ??
[20:47] <k1l> ramikilany: usually you dont run GUI on a server. since you connect through the web/ssh and dont want it to consume the ressources for gui.
[20:47] <PianoSkulls> i'm trying to keep a folder always at the top of the list with a symbol before the name like in windows but when I do it, the folder goes to the bottom
[20:48] <chris___> reqs, gnome editor, and new gnome3
[20:48] <chris___> hi bk
[20:52] <EriC^^> PianoSkulls: try adding a number at the top like 00
[20:54] <ramikilany> sorry guys back
[20:55] <ramikilany> how do i connect through web/ssh and what i can get through the web interface?
[20:55] <ShutterBC> ugh I ran into a huge snag with iscsi mount. Looking for a workaround for this issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1569925
[20:55] <k1l> ramikilany: usually one manages a server through ssh. you run "ssh user@serverip" on you terminal and then you manage the server with that
[20:55] <bekks> ramikilany: either you connect by web OR by ssh.
[20:56] <bekks> ramikilany: For connecting via web, you need to setup a webserver.
[20:56] <ShutterBC> I feel like helping with some other questions for a few minutes to get my mind off of the fact I really need to learn systemd :)
[20:57] <ramikilany> i will tell what i am doing, i work in a hospital and trying to migrate my servers and desktops from Microsoft to ubuntu
[20:57] <ramikilany> and you know MS as a server are easy to handle
[20:57] <ramikilany> active directories, OU, file system...
[20:57] <bekks> ramikilany: We know thats a lie. :)
[20:58] <ramikilany> bekks: why!
[20:59] <bekks> ramikilany: So do you actually want a centralized webbased management solution for your Ubuntu servers?
[21:00] <ramikilany> in the new suite of MS
[21:00] <bekks> ramikilany: MS is irrelevant to this channel.
[21:00] <ramikilany> they are doing a lot of stuff through powershell
[21:01] <bekks> ramikilany: Which isnt of initerest in here.
[21:01] <bekks> *interest
[21:01] <ramikilany> so why i don't go as CLI to the more powerful linux
[21:01] <bekks> ramikilany: So just use SSH to administer your linux servers.
[21:01] <ramikilany> i am trying to find here how i can kick MS and go to ubuntu
[21:02] <bekks> Insert an Ubuntu CD, install it.
[21:02] <k1l> ramikilany: install the ubuntu server. manage that through ssh from your terminal.
[21:02] <ramikilany> and what is the alternative for the file server?
[21:03] <bekks> ramikilany: a cifs file server.
[21:03] <bekks> ramikilany: called "samba".
[21:03] <ramikilany> good
[21:03] <ramikilany> and i already know that LDAP is the alternative for the OU correct?
[21:04] <bekks> ramikilany: There are several full blown solutions out there. One of them is Zentyal.
[21:04] <ramikilany> it more easy to manage and also powerful as ubuntu server?
[21:05] <ramikilany> is it*
[21:05] <ShutterBC> ramikilany, I think you need to assess the business function of the servers you want to migrate first
[21:06] <bekks> ramikilany: It is an Ubuntu server.
[21:06] <ramikilany> very good
[21:06] <ramikilany> i need a file server and active directory management for the users and groups
[21:06] <bekks> ramikilany: I addition to what ShutterBC said, you need to learn how to use/replace an AD with a samba PDC, too.
[21:07] <bekks> ramikilany: After you successfully migrated from AD to samba PDC, you need to learn how to migrate your fileserver(s).
[21:07] <ShutterBC> Being at a hospital, I can't imagine you have unlimited budget, but keep in mind your maintenance overhead. I would say that it's probably worth trying a migration if you've got some time and a lab set up
[21:07] <ramikilany> ok dear bekks
[21:08] <ramikilany> i got some now shutterBC
[21:09] <ramikilany> and i am trying this due to 2 things
[21:09] <ramikilany> the first is ubuntu is more stable than MS
[21:09] <ramikilany> and free
[21:11] <ShutterBC> ramikilany, are the workstations going to be converted over too? Do you guys use Exchange? Heavy use of GPO?
[21:12] <ShutterBC> For the record, I do a lot of work with Windows security but at home run Linux equivalents. I'll tell you that I'm too lazy to forklift a heavily customized AD environment, but I might if I were paid. :)
[21:12] <ramikilany> yes already switch 5 workstations to ubuntu and every thing goes good but they hardly working on libreoffice
[21:12] <ramikilany> as exchange i use kerio connect
[21:13] <bekks> ramikilany: Which HCIS system do you use?
[21:13] <ramikilany> local developed
[21:13] <ramikilany> on foxpro
[21:14] <bekks> ramikilany: I bet Foxpro doesnt run on anything else but MS.
[21:14] <rawfodog> Hello, I am using an ubuntu machine for a webserver. When I save the file I am working on in windows, in order to run the file I have to chmod the file. I have to do this over and over again it is very annoying. Is this a chown issue?
[21:14] <ramikilany> and about the gpo not medium use
[21:15] <EriC^^> rawfodog: no it's from the fact that ntfs doesn't save permissions that linux uses
[21:15] <ramikilany> as we are shutterbc we will not get paid
[21:15] <ramikilany> :)
[21:16] <rawfodog> ok thanks EriC^^. The ubuntu machine is sharing its file system, not windows. How do I fix this problem?
[21:16] <EriC^^> rawfodog: windows must be overwriting it then i guess
[21:17] <EriC^^> rawfodog: you can't do much but chown it everytime or just run it using the script language
[21:17] <ramikilany> yes indeed bekks
[21:17] <bekks> ramikilany: So you cannot migrate at all.
[21:17] <ramikilany> so i will install it on a virtual machine
[21:18] <bekks> ramikilany: and you will still need to pay the windows licenses.
[21:18] <bekks> ramikilany: So basically its not worth the effort.
[21:19] <EriC^^> rawfodog: like bash /path/to/file
[21:19] <ramikilany> it worth for the next 100 workstations and MS office
[21:19] <ramikilany> it about 300$ each
[21:19] <bekks> ramikilany: And for every workstation of them using your HCIS, you will need a Windows license, too.
[21:20] <rawfodog> EriC^^, I am merely using ./script.sh. I should "bash script.sh" ?
[21:20] <rawfodog> ah, it worked :)
[21:20] <ramikilany> in my case no, i tried something and went good
[21:20] <rawfodog> THanks EriC^^
[21:20] <EriC^^> rawfodog: run "head -1 script.sh" and see the shebang line with #!
[21:20] <bekks> ramikilany: In every case. When you install Windows in a VM, you need a license, for not breaking the licensing agreement.
[21:20] <ramikilany> something like xenapp
[21:20] <chris___> secure shell script first is a good way to go ... mk sure you keep the source offline!
[21:20] <aenb135> hi
[21:21] <ShutterBC> regarding Foxpro you might get lucky: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=296
[21:21] <bekks> ramikilany: And XenApp costs a LOT more than your plain Windows.
[21:21] <ShutterBC> Still, your chances of something breaking are high
[21:21] <chris___> just use citrix old client
[21:21] <bekks> chris___: Which isnt supported anymore, at all.
[21:21] <ramikilany> i had 1 old windows license and i tried built in role like xenapp
[21:22] <ramikilany> and worked well
[21:22] <bekks> ramikilany: there is no XenApp builtin role in Windows.
[21:22] <ramikilany> and for the workstations i just open a web link
[21:22] <chris___> well, u can still get it
[21:22] <ramikilany> it is like xenapp
[21:22] <ramikilany> in windows it is cold remote session
[21:22] <chris___> kind of ... but less stable and old
[21:22] <bekks> ramikilany: You are talking about the Remote Desktop Server, which needs to be licensed too.
[21:22] <ShutterBC> are you talking about the remote desktop connections to a server?
[21:22] <bekks> ShutterBC: Yes, he is.
[21:23] <ShutterBC> To get more than 2 simultaneous users, you need to license it
[21:23] <ramikilany> yes
[21:23] <bekks> ramikilany: You need to license that, too.
[21:23] <ramikilany> but 1 license goes for 50 users
[21:23] <chris___> I've never done it in ubuntu
[21:23] <bekks> ramikilany: No? :)
[21:23] <ramikilany> try it
[21:23] <ramikilany> i tried
[21:23] <ShutterBC> ramikilany, you tried 50 concurrent sessions?
[21:24] <ramikilany> until now up to 27 users
[21:24] <ramikilany> tomorrow i will continue
[21:24] <ShutterBC> Yeah you can create as many user accounts as you want. just good luck when trying to connect all at once
[21:24] <bekks> ramikilany: So you need 27 User-CALs or 27 Device-CALs.
[21:24] <bekks> ramikilany: But you need to license them.
[21:24] <ShutterBC> Now since I don't know what license you purchased, I can't say for sure what your situation is.
[21:25] <ShutterBC> ^^ what bekks said
[21:25] <ramikilany> tomorrow i will tell you what kind of license i have
[21:25] <bekks> ramikilany: It will work - for 120 days. Until the activation time is over.
[21:25] <ShutterBC> Best of luck to you. :D
[21:26] <chris___> config rdc server and client
[21:26] <chris___> la
[21:26] <bekks> chris___: For configuring the RDS, you need to license it :P
[21:26] <bekks> chris___: Or you cant use it, after the activation time is over :)
[21:26] <ramikilany> f*** MS :D
[21:27] <ShutterBC> For all this talk of migrating to Ubuntu from Windows, I'm actually pretty sure I'm going to do this on my work machine again.  Usually it's pretty good. When I need to stand up servers though, I really don't want nor need the overhead.
[21:29] <ramikilany> the RDP is very good solution and the resource sharing over it is very good
[21:31] <ramikilany> lately i know that MS bought the RDP from citrix
[21:31] <ramikilany> i don't know if is it correct
[21:31] <Nitrigaur> Sounds plausible
[21:31] <bekks> ramikilany: you still need to license it :)
[21:31] <budder> hey guys I was wondering how exaclty I run the command to disable the graphical boot screen? it is workaround A https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[21:32] <ramikilany> i know my friend :(
[21:32] <budder> I am new to linux. how am i supposed to run that command if I cannot even boot into ubuntu?
[21:33] <bekks> !nomodeset | budder
[21:33] <Nitrigaur> budder, from within the bootloader, you can type c to enter a command-line environment based on busybox. Or e to edit the current boot command
[21:34] <Synic_> exit
[21:34] <brotherBox> instead and i have no idea what is happening. i tried without a .vimrc and in the virtual terminal thing, to the same effect
[21:34] <brotherBox> does anyone have any idea why this is happening? i use ubuntu 16.10
[21:35] <budder> Nitrigaur: so do i basically just hit C to bring up the CLI and then literally just paste "    set gfxpayload=text " in it?
[21:36] <k1l> budder: i would first try the "nomodeset" "one time boot" solution from the howto the bot linked
[21:36] <brotherBox> oh
[21:36] <Nitrigaur> budder, no, that would be [e] (the 'e' key on your keyboard)
[21:36] <brotherBox> hi guys, i have a strange issue. when i open vim on a terminal and press r (for replace), it displays ">[2 q" instead and i have no idea what is happening
[21:36] <budder> killtheliterate: i am reading that guide now and trying to understand it
[21:37] <budder> Nitrigaur: okay, so I just hit "e" on boot and then paste that command?
[21:37] <brotherBox> it does that with vim and neovim, in terminal and ctrl-alt-f1 mode
[21:37] <brotherBox> so i believe it has to do with my distro
[21:37] <Ben64> brotherBox: what are you trying to do
[21:38] <Nitrigaur> budder, after hitting 'e' you can edit the line and add it to the existing one, just as the linked article from the always helpful ubottu mentioned.
[21:38] <brotherBox> Ben64: im trying to use the r key in vim/nvim but it replaces the key on display with something else
[21:38] <Ben64> brotherBox: no no, what are you trying to actually accomplish
[21:39] <brotherBox> Ben64: using vim like i am used to, thats all it is. I am outlining a problem that i notice, give the things i tried to narrow down the source and ask for a solution or ideas
[21:39] <Ben64> well if you can't answer this simple question, i can't help you
[21:40] <brotherBox> i dont know how my response doesnt answer your question, i try to use vim to edit a document and notice strange behaviour
[21:40] <brotherBox> what part of this is mysterious to you
[21:40] <Ben64> because i keep asking you what you're trying to accomplish and you keep dodging the question
[21:41] <budder> Nitrigaur: nowhere in the guide does it mention the "set gfxpayload=text" command that is on the troubleshooting blank screen wiki page I initially linked
[21:41] <ledd> Got a quick question. How do I create a keyboard shortcut in Ubuntu to autorename all .mp3 files in the current directory of Nautilus ("Files") to 0001.mp3, 0002.mp3, 0003.mp3, etc...?
[21:41] <brotherBox> im trying to fix the screen display glitch
[21:41] <brainwash> brotherBox: wrong TERM? did you maybe mess around with cursor appearance?
[21:42] <brainwash> brotherBox: also, I would suggest asking in #vim
[21:42] <Nitrigaur> brotherbox, are you trying to replace text?  (Maybe Dvorak instead of Qwerty? )
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> ledd  create an alias for  for-next loop, then assign a keyboard key to that alias
[21:43] <brotherBox> brainwash: i didnt change configurations and use the same terminal software as i did before the glitch started to appear
[21:44] <brotherBox> Nitrigaur: yes, thats what r in vim does. It used to work fine and i cant notice any differences in keyboard layout, and i would notice because my password depends on special characters that i would not get on other layouts
[21:44] <brotherBox> also the fact that this happens in both vim and neovim leads me to believe that its related to ubuntu, even though i cant reproduce the behaviour in other software
[21:44] <ShutterBC> brotherBox, if you're on a remote session, what does it think your term variable is set to now?
[21:45] <Nitrigaur> brotherBox, (assuming that you are within a GUI desktop environment) do you have a keyboard layout-icon in the top-right corner of your screen? If so, what does it say?
[21:45] <budder> killtheliterate: the "set gfxpayload=text" command that is in the troubleshooting blank screen wiki page I initially linked is nowhere in the howto guide that ubottu linked. so which do i do?
[21:45] <ShutterBC> (echo $TERM)
[21:45] <budder> the "set gfxpayload=text" or the" acpi_osi="
[21:46] <brotherBox> oh, err, seems like regular old vim doesnt have that behaviour, it seems specific to neovim
[21:46] <brotherBox> sorry for the confusion, i'll ask in #neovim
[21:46] <ShutterBC> lol OK
[21:46] <brainwash> ...
[21:46] <brainwash> :D
[21:46] <Nitrigaur> brotherbox please open a new terminal and link the output of echo $TERM | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:47] <ShutterBC> ok, back to dissecting systemd
[21:47] <ledd> MonkeyDust: what does that mean?
[21:47] <Nitrigaur> ShutterBC, good luck with that O_o
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> ledd  what does what mean?
[21:47] <ShutterBC> I'm quite annoyed with my 16.04.1 instance right now :)
[21:47] <ledd> MonkeyDust: I have a script that, if it's in the same dir, it renames all the files as I want. But I want it to work in the current Nautilus dir while having the .sh file sit in some other dir.
[21:48] <ledd> MonkeyDust: I already know how to link keyboard to it.
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> ledd  oh, ok, you can use brackets (...) ... like (cd ~/Music && execute script) ... then the script will be executed in ~/Music, but you stay where you are
[21:50] <ledd> MonkeyDust: I don't want a fixed dir. I want whatever Dir nautilus is currently in.
[21:51] <ledd> MonkeyDust: here is the script: #!/bin/bash
[21:51] <ledd> a=1
[21:51] <ledd> for i in *.mp3; do
[21:51] <ledd>   new=$(printf "%04d.mp3" "$a") #04 pad to length of 4
[21:51] <ledd>   mv -- "$i" "$new"
[21:51] <ledd>   let a=a+1
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> ledd  then use the absolute path to the script
[21:51] <Nitrigaur> ShutterBC, I'm about to try ArchLinux which also uses systemd. I've tried SlackWare, one of the last "major" distros that did not switch to systemdm but I ran into dependency hell and have not looked back since.
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> ledd  and next time, use a pastebin for multiple lines ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:52] <ledd> paste.ubuntu.com/23848465/
[21:55] <minimec> ledd: You could install 'nautilus-actions'. That would give you an option in the context menu. So right click in the folder, run script... https://saravananthirumuruganathan.wordpress.com/2010/08/29/extending-nautilus-context-menus-using-nautilus-actions-scripts-and-python-extensions/
[21:56] <ledd> minimec: I installed it already. Can't figure out how to put in such a context menu item.
[21:56] <minimec> ledd: There is even a better option without installing anything... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NautilusScriptsHowto
[21:57] <minimec> ledd: In fact I am using this, but did not remember how I did it... ;)
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> ledd  guess it's easier and faster  when you do it in Terminal
[22:01] <ledd> minimec: thanks, that worked.
[22:02] <saman> hello
[22:02] <saman> anyone in here?
[22:02] <saman> guys? girls?
[22:02] <minimec> ledd: no problem. I have to write these kind of solutions down somewhere, because I often froget how I did in the end...
[22:04] <designbybeck> exit
[22:07] <wadie> can you please help me lovely people
[22:07] <ShutterBC> Nitrigaur, yeah -- usually it's great, but I'm out of practice. I have an iscsi initiator that when set to mount on boot causes the machine to hang during shutdown
[22:08] <ShutterBC> systemd is not correctly waiting for iscsi logout, then kills network, then it's hung
[22:08] <wadie> my ubuntu 16 can't connect to one wifi network only, which other devices can connect to. it's my home's network which has always been working fine. checking using the terminal shows that my card is working fine and I can connect to other networks
[22:08] <Worm_in_a_Box> Should I be able to install ubuntu using a distro from 12 years ago and then upgrade it flawlessly to the newest one?
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> Worm_in_a_Box  no
[22:09] <wadie> I'm connected through my android now -.-
[22:09] <Nitrigaur> ShutterBC, that's VERY annoying indeed...
[22:10] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: theoretically: yes. but its not worth the effort. just install a actual supported one.
[22:10] <Worm_in_a_Box> The box won't allow usb boots.
[22:11] <Worm_in_a_Box> And I don't have virgin cds.
[22:11] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: there is cd/dvd or pxe
[22:12] <minimec> wadie: Did you configure something on the router on the home network. Could it be that you accidentally blocked the MAC address of your computer?
[22:12] <wadie> I don't have access to the router
[22:12] <minimec> wadie: Ok.
[22:12] <wadie> neither physicaly nor remotely
[22:12] <wadie> but connecting using my phone is fine and I can connect to other networks on ubuntu
[22:14] <wadie> and it just happened today that I can't connect simply after booting up, didn't touch a thing
[22:14] <Village> Good day, Peoples, i want help, how to connect Failover (New IP) to old system?
[22:15] <minimec> wadie: other thing I could think of is the 2.4/5 GHz. Image the router is only set to 5GHz wireless, and your computer only supports 2.4GHz.
[22:15] <ken> ken
[22:15] <wadie> minimec, I've always used this network up until last night it was all good
[22:15] <wadie> all I did was wake up this morning and try to connect as I normally would
[22:15] <Village> it's strange then, wadie\
[22:16] <wadie> :/
[22:16] <Village> Whats variables?
[22:16] <Village> SoftWare play with you?
[22:16] <minimec> wadie: Oh. Ok. Did you do an update last night. Could it be that your connection is working, if you boot an older kernel in the brug menu @ boot?
[22:17] <wadie> hmm I'll check that
[22:17] <minimec> wadie: 'grub' not 'burg'...
[22:17] <Village> prologic at green understanding
[22:18] <Village> can you help me, online man?
[22:18] <Xz> hi there, I have HP Zbook 15G3 and I want to 1. boot if off USB stick (in live or installed on USB mode), 2. boot it in secure UEFI mode
[22:19] <Xz> there is multiple problems on the way, however, either about graphics card (startx in live mode will hang the system)
[22:19] <Village> Xz, where you stuck?
[22:19] <Xz> and also secure mode seems very nasty
[22:20] <Xz> Village: well, I tried many things already, first and most important, I installed from live USB stick to another USB stick and was able to boot fine in secure mode
[22:20] <k1l> Xz: there should not be any need to run startx. some video cards do need nomodeset to be used
[22:20] <k1l> !nomodeset | Xz
[22:20] <Xz> ubottu: I have NVIDIA card, that's the one not liked by linux-kernel in general
[22:21] <Xz> k1l: alright...
[22:21] <Village> secure mode issues with graphic card?
[22:21] <Xz> Village: so i installed from live USB stick to target (another) USB stick
[22:21] <Xz> Village: Ubu 16.04LTS
[22:22] <Xz> Village: and was able to get it to boot in UEFI secure mode fin e
[22:22] <Xz> Village: but then I rebooted laptop off SSD where my win10 + bitlocker sits (they have to stay there)
[22:22] <Xz> Village: UEFI refused to boot that, it said some policy changed
[22:22] <Xz> Village: then in BIOS I spotted new entry on a boot list called 'ubuntu'
[22:23] <Xz> Village: I changed the order, so that entry 'ubuntu' was second, not first anymore
[22:23] <Village> It's strange situation try small of it to target
[22:23] <Xz> Village: that helped with Win10+bitlocker - so it fixed my Win10
[22:23] <Xz> Village: but then I cannot anymore boot from USB stick I instlaled UBUNTU on
[22:23] <Xz> Village: what does that mean? 'small of it to target' ?
[22:24] <Xz> Village: by the way, that 'ubuntu' entry is gone from BIOS now
[22:24] <Village> Hm, it's boot loader, between systems, but why they issues between ich ones
[22:24] <Xz> Village: I don't know what it was, but bitlocker was pissed, so maybe bitlocker removed that?
[22:24] <Xz> Village: it's a work laptop with default corporate build on SSD, so it has to stay
[22:25] <Xz> Village: I want to use the laptop at home with UBUNTU on it, so the only option is to boot off USB
[22:25] <Xz> Village: or Ethernet/WiFI (PXE mode maybe)
[22:25] <Village> I think first it's BIOS like and you feel, i forget future problems, but you can try from zero if you have backups
[22:25] <Village> I not more of basic, but system must help if feel that you going right way
[22:25] <Xz> Village: well, I cannot touch BIOS and SSD
[22:26] <Xz> Village: because it has to work with corporate build that's on it right now
[22:26] <Xz> Village: I can switch to legacy mode, then it will probably work
[22:26] <Xz> Village: but I don't want to switch everytime I boot between legacy and secure mode
[22:27] <Village> BIOS right, SSD right, so first C, Windows, then loader, then Ubuntu, then boot windows set loader looks D, if E+ Data, and when run your not new system, after BIOS loader give you take choise between two OS
[22:28] <wadie> I loaded kernel .45 and there's no wifi connection at all there, so I'm back on .47
[22:28] <wadie> minimec
[22:28] <Xz> Village: are you telling me to add UBUNTU to windows boot loader?
[22:30] <minimec> wadie: ok. I see.
[22:30] <Village> No, i mean take your back up of files from SSD, and then from new, and before it you can clean not wanted software addons""
[22:30] <navi_> hi i have a problem with phpmyadmin
[22:31] <minimec> wadie: I don't really have an answer to your question. You could once try to change the MAC adress of the comoputer or delete the old connection setup for your homenetwork in the network settings...
[22:31] <wadie> Tried deleting and doing things all over, nothing changed.. how to change the mac address ? will it affect anything else ?
[22:32] <minimec> wadie: You can in fact change the MAC adress on the running system. It will be 'lost' after reboot.
[22:32] <navi_> i allready install all modules, apache, mysql and phpmyadmin, but still have this problem (The requested URL /phpmyadmin was not found on this server.
[22:32] <navi_> Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80)
[22:32] <Village> I feel that MAC must be by default, and the call to ISP if needed about mac, i don't know about old issues
[22:33] <minimec> wadie: https://www.maketecheasier.com/change-mac-address-windows-ubuntu/
[22:33] <Village> navi_, maybe wrong tutorial
[22:33] <minimec> wadie: http://askubuntu.com/questions/390147/how-to-change-the-mac-address-of-pc
[22:34] <navi_> maybe.. but i do all the thinks, but i dont works
[22:34] <Xz> ok, I will try to get live-USB mode working in UEFI secure boot with my graphics card
[22:34] <k1l> navi_: what ubuntu exactly?
[22:34] <Xz> so I'm adding nomodeset to 'Try Ubuntu without Installing' entry
[22:34] <Village> navi_, what step was wrong?
[22:34] <Xz> should I also get rid of quiet splash?
[22:34] <k1l> navi_: and what did you install? what packages?
[22:34] <navi_> i used ubuntu mate 16
[22:34] <navi_> all packages
[22:35] <navi_> localhost it works, but phpmyadmin dosnt work
[22:35] <k1l> navi_: restart the apache2 and try localhost
[22:35] <navi_> i try but i have the same request
[22:35] <Village> Xz, if from your backuped data, the restore must be right solution, if no wanted "addons" keep with it
[22:36] <Xz> Village: I don't have a backup
[22:36] <Xz> Village: if the SSD build goes south, I will have to go to IT dept in my company and get them to fix it
[22:36] <navi_> k1l_ i purge and install again all the modules, apache, mysql, and phpmyadmin, when i re-install again i have the same problem
[22:36] <Xz> Village: I would rather avoid that
[22:37] <wadie> eth0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
[22:37] <wadie>     link/ether 00:11:22:33:44:55 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[22:37] <Xz> hey, I got UBUNTU 16.04 LTS to boot off in secure mode as live USB
[22:37] <Xz> !
[22:37] <Xz> graphics works, so nomodeset was the thing
[22:37] <Village> So you want easy way, be sure or all clean and try from start, then if all good make backup of software, but keep in mind, of coure, that all going to future, i mean with updates..
[22:38] <Xz> Village: what's going on with updated?
[22:38] <Xz> Village: updates* ?
[22:38] <MonkZ> Hi, i have a little IPv6 only trouble here:
[22:38] <MonkZ> dig de.archive.ubuntu.com AAAA
[22:38] <MonkZ> de.archive.ubuntu.com.  129     IN      CNAME   ubuntu.mirror.tudos.de.
[22:39] <MonkZ> dig ubuntu.mirror.tudos.de AAAA
[22:39] <MonkZ> comes up empty
[22:39] <Xz> well, I don't have WiFi in live-USB mode on that HP Zbook 15G3
[22:39] <Xz> any tricks for WiFi in live-USB boot?
[22:39] <faLUCE>  hello. My wifi connection comes and goes peridocally. I don't understand what to check (ubuntu 16.06, 64 bit)
[22:39] <Village> No look back, it's ggod solution at yours situation, but if something not good hapens, you did it with incident i mean, can be that you need do it from zero, so solution take all back from backup is faster
[22:40] <Xz> Village: oh, you are saying I should back-up my USB stick
[22:40] <Xz> Village: yes, all work I do is git repos anyway
[22:40] <Xz> Village: so I don't keep anything locally
[22:40] <Xz> Village: thanks for the hint, appreciated
[22:41] <Village> I mean, good luck from start, because best way it's set up all clear and don't want that you will back from start after month or two
[22:42] <wadie> minimec, don't think this is working..changed it and confirmed the change using ip link ls
[22:42] <wadie> try to connect, not happening
[22:43] <Xz> Village: yes, you are right
[22:43] <minimec> wadie: For what device did you change the MAC address? eth0 would be wired network. Wireless is probably wlan0 or something similar. you can check that with 'iwconfig' or again in the network settings GUI.
[22:44] <wadie> minimec, do you mean I should change the mac address of the network I'm trying to connect to
[22:44] <Village> So backup and clear BIOS if are not wanted addons, and then if something wrong ask wahts wrong, but better get right software of your Two OS destination
[22:45] <Dreaman> why in usa network speed is to low
[22:45] <Village> It's offtopic?
[22:45] <minimec> wadie: No. each network device on your computer has a MAC address. So youre wired card has one, and your wifi card has a different one...
[22:46] <MarkB2> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS 64 bit on an Intel Joule.  I've plugged a micro-USB cable into the Joule expansion board and the other end into my PC.  The PC sees it as a COM port... but I have no idea where in the Joule the device appears.
[22:46] <wadie> so it's wlan0 not eth0
[22:49] <Village> It's no logic, MarkB2, what the issue if you don't know aht you want coonect to Your box?
[22:50] <wadie> minimec, done it still nothing man :/
[22:50] <wadie> 3: wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000
[22:50] <wadie>     link/ether 08:00:97:00:79:31 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[22:51] <minimec> wadie: I am sorry. I would love to help you, but I don't have any further idea...
[22:51] <wadie> ok thanks anyway :)
[22:52] <minimec> wadie: Strange thing indeed is, that you can connect to other networks, but not to hte network you normally used to connect to...
[22:52] <wadie> yea, I mean I'm connected to another network right now!
[22:53] <MarkB2> Village: Pardon the delay.. was looking at Yet Another Configure file.  I'm writing software to communicate with a device over the USB-connected serial port.. The host is the Joule and the cable goes into the external device.
[22:53] <wadie> and the other one works fine, I'm connected to it using my phone and my gf's laptop
[22:54] <MarkB2> I know the processor is connected to an FTDI serial to USB device.
[22:54] <MarkB2> But I can't figure out what in /dev is the associated serial port.
[22:55] <Village> So you, MarkB2, absesed by Joule? I don't understand over USB connection is air, and from Box to Device it's not very hard traffic of data, between USB and WiFi
[22:55] <MarkB2> Village, I didn't quite understand that..
[22:56] <freddyy>  ed
[22:56] <MarkB2> The Joule is a relatively new system-on-module .. am still getting the hang of it.
[22:56] <Village> So i'm basic your are in issue, i don't know, you must know point of your issue
[22:56] <Village> 1. I faced with problem at this point
[22:57] <MarkB2> I suppose the issue is "which /dev/ttyS* port is associated with the connection to that USB device.
[22:58] <freddyy> hola
[22:58] <Village> Hm, so issue is right choice right connection between devices
[22:58] <MarkB2> Yep.
[22:59] <Village> And you can't connect it becuse not are right cable?
[22:59] <MarkB2> Nope.  The cable is correct.  I need to open the connection on the Joule side for a special application.
[22:59] <Village> putty maybe
[23:00]  * MarkB2 wonders if the Joule has putty...
[23:01] <Village> Cable alright, so soft of devices comunication, then be good it that soft keeps the your comunicate with devices
[23:03] <Village> good luck, MarkB2, if your destination is right
[23:03] <MarkB2> Village, thanks.
[23:04] <dym> Hey guys - im running a 14.04 on which recently a /swapfile appeared. Is this the case, if there is no dedicated swap partition?
[23:04] <dym> Also - is it safe to remove this file?
[23:13] <matti> dym: Is this file 0 bytes, or has some size, and it is showing up as active in free's output?
[23:14] <grauzikas> Hello, i need to delete a very big ammount of files (~2tb (there is a lot of small files)), i have googled and tryed rsync method, find with xarg, rm -rf and so on, it deleting files really slow
[23:14] <grauzikas> may be there is any other method?
[23:14] <grauzikas> this is an backuppc server and i need to delete trash folder :)
[23:15] <grauzikas> it`s raid10 with 24 1tb drives
[23:16] <matti> dym: If you don't want it, then: sync; sync; swapoff /swapfile, then edit /etc/fstab and either remove or comment it out.
[23:16] <matti> grauzikas: Hi.
[23:17] <matti> grauzikas: Do you need to remove everything, or just selected files/directories?
[23:17] <wadie> minimec, it fixed itself lol just tried randomly and it worked!
[23:17] <grauzikas> i cant umount partition and reformat it
[23:17] <grauzikas> because it have more files what i need
[23:17] <grauzikas> yes i need to delete /var/lib/Backuppc/trash
[23:18] <grauzikas> so i cant just umount /var/lib/Backuppc and reformat it
[23:18] <minimec> wadie: Cool. And... Don't ask why... Just enjoy... ;)
[23:18] <wadie> haha exactly
[23:18] <matti> grauzikas: Right.
[23:18] <matti> grauzikas: If this is a particular directory you are after, or a collection of them.
[23:19] <Nitrigaur> I'm going to bed, have a good one people
[23:19] <matti> grauzikas: Then you could parallelize the deletion.
[23:19] <grauzikas> what you mean by "parallelize"
[23:19] <matti> grauzikas: For example with e.g. xargs, parallel, and even with sending the job to background using & in Bash shell.
[23:20] <grauzikas> i have tryed all methods from there :) http://www.slashroot.in/which-is-the-fastest-method-to-delete-files-in-linux
[23:20] <grauzikas> it will take few days for me
[23:20] <grauzikas> at least :)
[23:21] <matti> Let me check.
[23:21] <grauzikas> and i cant start new backups because it eats ~12WA even there is a raid10
[23:21] <grauzikas> i think i need update my server and add ssd drive for trash directory
[23:21] <matti> grauzikas: Perhaps.
[23:22] <grauzikas> then i could simply umount/mkfs that partition
[23:22] <matti> grauzikas: If you write a small script, which would use a combination of find/xargs or find/parallel.
[23:23] <matti> grauzikas: Then you can fire it up with bash process that has lower IO nice.
[23:23] <matti> grauzikas: This way it would not hammer your RAID10.
[23:24] <matti> grauzikas: https://linux.die.net/man/1/ionice
[23:24] <grauzikas> strange, but when i`m deleting files i can see via iotop that read speed is ~1-8 MB/s
[23:24] <grauzikas> write sometimes goes up to 17M/s but very some times
[23:24] <grauzikas> it`s really slow
[23:25] <matti> grauzikas: https://linux.die.net/man/1/nice
[23:25] <matti> It depends on the file system, its settings, etc.
[23:25] <matti> If you do not want the remove to affect your daily work-load, then just ionice it :)
[23:26] <grauzikas> ok, thank you matti i`ll try it
[23:27] <matti> grauzikas: One second.
[23:27] <grauzikas> yes
[23:30] <liska> yo
[23:30] <ShutterBC> YES fixed my iscsi issue, suck it systemd
[23:31] <matti> grauzikas: Sorry, I was looking up something.
[23:31] <matti> grauzikas: There are some options you could tweak under /proc, to improve performance of deletions.
[23:31] <ShutterBC> actually kinda liking systemd after getting to know it better.
[23:32] <grauzikas> what kind?
[23:32] <matti> grauzikas: But, the safest way to go about it to keep balance between safety and daily work-load, would be ionice'd parallel remove.
[23:33] <Bent0> apt install php wants to install php7.1 but i want 7.0. How do I do that?
[23:34] <minimec> Bent0: sudo apt install php7.0 ;)
[23:34] <matti> grauzikas: Read about vm.dirty_ratio, vm.dirty_background_ratio, vm.vfs_cache_pressure, etc.
[23:34] <minimec> Bent0: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=php7.0&searchon=names
[23:34] <Bent0> That is installed
[23:34] <Bent0> I can even do php -v
[23:34] <Bent0> and it shows its version is 7.0
[23:35] <k1l> !info php xenial
[23:35] <k1l> Bent0: so you got ppas or other 3rd party repos enabled?
[23:35] <minimec> Bent0: So remove the 'php' package
[23:35] <Bent0> yes
[23:35] <matti> grauzikas: In your case, the way how VFS usually works is working a bit against you.
[23:35] <Bent0> andrejs PHP repo
[23:35] <k1l> Bent0: so what is the surprise then?
[23:36] <matti> grauzikas: Plus, most of the tools would do a dreaded stat() to read metadata about the file.
[23:36] <Bent0> Trying to install a package for 7.0 but it complains about needing php
[23:36] <matti> grauzikas: Which in a large volume scenario slows down everything.
[23:36] <k1l> Bent0: you run a non original ubuntu php version. that can break the dependecies of other ubuntu packages
[23:36] <Donaldtrump> Hi
[23:37] <Donaldtrump> Is anyone here?
[23:37] <MarkB2> My ubuntu system has four serial ports, /dev/ttyS[0-3].  I can't get putty to initialize any of them.
[23:37] <MarkB2> Not even when sudo'ed.
[23:39] <MarkB2> There has gotta be a way to find out which /device is major/minor to the physical serial port(s).
[23:41] <Kleineganz> Hello :)
[23:41] <matti> grauzikas: I wish there was a nice LRU, circular-buffer, capped (you name it) file system (either native or via FUSE) which you could cap at either n files or older than some amount of days.
[23:42] <Kleineganz> Quick question, I want to edit a file in a GUI editor but I don't know how to navigate to the file location through the GUI interface. How would I find ~/.sopel in my files?
[23:42] <matti> MarkB2: So, you are using PuTTY on Linux as a serial terminal emulator?
[23:43] <Kenix> Kleineganz: copy the location + file out of the terminal and then click open in the editor and paste in the text in the filename field
[23:43] <matti> MarkB2: Try to see whether minicom works over PuTTY.
[23:43] <Kenix> should open it just fine
[23:43] <MarkB2> ! matti: I didn't think of minicom.  Thanks.. will try.
[23:44] <k1l> Kleineganz: ~ is short for "users home". the folders and files starting with a . are hidden by default. press ctrl+h to see them
[23:45] <Kleineganz> ah there it is. Thanks k1l
[23:45] <matti> MarkB2: I am suggesting minicom, as I am not entirely sure how to debug PuTTY on Linux.
[23:45] <matti> MarkB2: And minicom a de-factor standard tool for fiddling with serial consoles.
[23:45] <matti> MarkB2: So at least we would know that it's not the tool you are having issue with.
[23:46] <matti> MarkB2: Also, check dmesg (kernel ring buffer) to see whether your serial port driver got loaded and initialised.
[23:47] <MarkB2> minicom thinks the serial port is /dev/tty8.  Will check dmesg output... Pardon: What's the name of the serial port driver module?
[23:47] <matti> MarkB2: Depends on whether it is serial or USB-serial.
[23:48] <matti> MarkB2: You can grep output for "tty" I suppose.
[23:48] <matti> You can try to do a sweep with setserial as setserial -g /dev/ttyS[0123456789].
[23:49] <Worm_in_a_Box> Should I trust unetbtin?
[23:50] <MarkB2> There's a line in dmesg output saying that it found a Serial port driver.  ah.  matti: THANK YOU.  I'll try that.
[23:50] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: no.
[23:51] <matti> MarkB2: It is a bit fiddly process usually, but once you get it working then it is fine.
[23:51] <Worm_in_a_Box> Why?
[23:51] <matti> MarkB2: So, you can try minicom -s and see how it goes from there.
[23:52] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: they are known to change the isos to include their own boot screen which causes error so the usb doesnt boot. when you are on windows and want to create a ubuntu usb use rufus and load the ubuntu iso manually
[23:52] <Worm_in_a_Box> k1l: I am using it to load lubuntu without a cd or pen.
[23:53] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: you use pxe boot?
[23:54] <Worm_in_a_Box> nope
[23:54] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: but?
[23:56] <Worm_in_a_Box> It is supposed to allow me to init the iso from the hard drive through their boot manager.
[23:57] <k1l> Worm_in_a_Box: i am not familiar with that
[23:58] <MarkB2> matti: setserial -g /dev/ttyS[012345678] doesn't find any uarts.  Weird.  So it's somewhere else?
[23:58] <budder> can anyone help me with trying to resolve the booting to a black screen issue? i hit "e" and I get here but I don't know what to change or edit http://imgur.com/a/Ygkxm
[23:59] <Arcaire> budder: Don't suppose you're using a nvidia graphics card, are you?
[23:59] <budder> Arcaire: i am
[23:59] <Arcaire> Heh.
[23:59] <budder> gtx 750 ti


[01:11] <RAOF> glcpp/glcpp-parse.y:1858:1: fatal error: error writing to /tmp/ccFoKqc4.s: No space left on device
[01:11] <RAOF> Whoops!
[13:46] <oier> Hello everybody, could you please look at bug #643895 since it is affecting users of the geforce 310m card?
[13:46] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 643895 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "nvidia propietary driver fails to load X with geforce 310M (affects: 7) (dups: 1) (heat: 38)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/643895
[13:47] <oier> I have been told to ask here around if you could provide some info or help with the issue
[13:48] <oier> BTW, could somebody tell if the bug is triaged or not?
[13:54] <bjsnider> that certainly seems like an nvidia-specific issue
[13:58] <oier> is 657634 a duplicate of 643895?
[19:14] <apw> bryceh, you seen this error: [ 7228.058217] [drm:i915_gem_object_bind_to_gtt] *ERROR* Attempting to bind a purgeable object
[19:14] <apw> bryceh, think it just triggered an X dump
[19:35] <bryceh> heya apw
[19:35] <bryceh> apw, it doesn't ring any bells
[20:03] <apw> bryceh, something to keep an eye out for, it doesn't look like a new kernel message .. so i suspect its always been in there ... the message implies userspace has lost track of its pinning of memory
[20:03] <bryceh> apw, ah, the weirdness that is Intel graphics
[20:03] <apw> bryceh, so very true
[20:03] <bryceh> apw, does this bug occur a lot?
[20:04] <apw> bryceh, no so far only once, but i've only been running this specific kernel for a short time, so if it _is_ kernel then i don't know :)
[20:05] <bryceh> apw, ok I'll keep an eye out on our end too
[20:05] <bryceh> so far haven't been too many natty bug reports for X
[20:08] <apw> bryceh, no its overall been quiet on the exploding front
[20:08] <bryceh> apw, probably no one has it installed :-P
[20:09] <apw> i actually have a machine fully converted, the first time i've been able to do so soo very early in the cycle
[20:10] <bryceh> yeah I've got a test box running it too
[20:10] <bryceh> (without troubles so far)
[20:10] <apw> most unexpected, i guess all the exploding will be later in the cycle :(
[20:15] <bryceh> maybe unity scared everyone off?  ;-)
[20:15] <bryceh> or I should say, maybe unity will scare up some bugs