[00:00] <cliluw> KFKG_: Type something like "xclock &".
[00:00] <KFKG_> heh i see the clock
[00:00] <KFKG_> how will this launch the gui viewable via vnc
[00:01] <KFKG_> I am looking for a full-time gui btw
[00:01] <cliluw> KFKG_: Haha, the clock is just to test if the connection is there. To see the full GUI, type "gnome-session" or "startkde".
[00:01] <KFKG_> ok
[00:02] <sarnold> the downside is that if the connection between your windows box and the linux box does down, the clients you start there are almost certainly going to die too
[00:03] <KFKG_> Right so if i have the radio program running and I disconnect I will shut that off, I want ot so it will run no matter what
[00:03] <KFKG_> can we work on the steps for that
[00:03] <KFKG_> I see the kde desktop and a hard drive icon but nothing else
[00:04] <KFKG_> there are a bunch of icons, kind of like a mac bar showing up
[00:04] <KFKG_> nothing is clickable
[00:05] <KFKG_> I want this server to allow us to leave things running and login remotely to the gui
[00:05] <cliluw> KFKG_: It might take a while since you're loading the full desktop. I don't think I've ever loaded the full desktop through X11 forwarding. I usually launch just the app that I'm interested in using like Firefox.
[00:05] <sarnold> how fast is the link / what kind of latency do you have? it might be pretty slow, especially compared to e.g. vnc..
[00:05] <KFKG_> like remote desktop
[00:05] <sarnold> yeah, I think x11 forwarding would only work for you  guys if the application was written to make it easy
[00:05] <KFKG_> the link is 300 mbps
[00:05] <KFKG_> roughly
[00:05] <sarnold> it's hard to tell if it is written that way
[00:05] <KFKG_> sarnold
[00:06] <sarnold> then it oughto be snappy :) hehe
[00:06] <KFKG_> no the radio app must be run full time, thats why vnc is the way we need to go
[00:07] <KFKG_> I see the clock and half the desktop now
[00:08] <KFKG_> Is there another way so that I can login via teamviewer/vnc to control the desktop via a gui
[00:08] <cliluw> KFKG_: I don't know anything about this program but it sounds like x11vnc fits your needs.
[00:08] <sarnold> KFKG_: I think x11vnc is probably the way to go; this guide looks tolerable, https://www.lxtreme.nl/blog/headless-x11/
[00:08] <KFKG_> I tried to install that through apt and it said no such package
[00:09] <KFKG_> i am familiar with x11vnc from back in the debian days
[00:09] <cliluw> KFKG_: Also, try asking in #ubuntu. In #ubuntu-server, people only use command-line interfaces.
[00:09] <sarnold> x11vnc is in universe; perhaps if you only enabled main, it might not be there..
[00:09] <KFKG_> #ubuntu sent me here lol
[00:10] <sarnold> hehe
[00:11] <KFKG_> this guide is written in debian will it work for ubuntu
[00:11] <JanC> if you run a GNOME based desktop, it has a built-in VNC server called 'vino'
[00:12] <KFKG_> JanC
[00:12] <KFKG_> let me see whats going on with Gnome
[00:12] <JanC> you might have to configure it to start listening
[00:12] <sarnold> KFKG_: it looks like it's decent, skip the bit about gdm3, and I have no idea about 'light-locker', that doesn't sound familiar
[00:12] <JanC> maybe KDE has something similar too
[00:13] <sarnold> JanC: any idea how to get it to start from an upstart script or sysv-init script?
[00:13] <cliluw> JanC: I think he/she has both GNOME and KDE installed.
[00:13] <KFKG_> the key is I am on the command line now which i an entirely unfamiliar with
[00:13] <KFKG_> cliluw, there are a total of 4 desktop guis that I installed
[00:13] <KFKG_> I was sort of just grasping at straws
[00:13] <cliluw> KFKG_: Wow, that's hardcore. :-)
[00:14] <JanC> sarnold: vino is started when the GNOME session starts, I think
[00:14] <sarnold> KFKG_: hey, check this out :) a guide just for ubuntu stuff https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#x11vnc
[00:14] <JanC> started by /etc/xdg/autostart/vino-server.desktop I guess
[00:15] <KFKG_> root@u18018703:~# gnome-session-check-accelerated: Helper exited with code 256 gnome-session-check-accelerated:: command not found root@u18018703:~# gnome-session-is-accelerated: No composite extension. gnome-session-is-accelerated:: command not found root@u18018703:~# gnome-session-check-accelerated: Helper exited with code 256 gnome-session-check-accelerated:: command not found root@u18018703:~# gnome-session[26158]: WARNING: software acc
[00:15] <KFKG_> it didnt like gnome
[00:19] <JanC> I wonder if it likes mate or some other ancient desktop then  :)
[00:19] <JanC> or maybe xfce
[00:20] <JanC> for less ancient
[00:20] <sarnold> probably those errors are coming from the X11 forwarding
[00:20] <sarnold> I'm not shocked that ming x11 doesn't have composite extension ;)
[00:21] <KFKG_> so do I open port 5900 on the server to connect to the x11vnc?
[00:22] <sarnold> yes, but be sure to restrict it to only the IP ranges that shuold be allowed
[00:22] <KFKG_> ok be back in a few
[00:22] <JanC> sarnold: 3D acceleration doesn't real work well over the internet anyway  :)
[00:23] <sarnold> JanC: dunno, 300mbps it might work out alright.. ;)
[00:24] <JanC> and maybe better not open that port publicly but connect using ssh and forward it
[00:24] <sarnold> yeah, I trust ssh a lot further than vnc
[00:24] <sarnold> good idea
[00:25] <cliluw> I assumed this was all over a LAN so it wouldn't matter than VNC sends passwords in plaintext.
[00:25] <cliluw> that*
[00:26] <JanC> cliluw: <KFKG_> the server has no display, its in a network center
[00:27] <cliluw> JanC: Haha, I assumed he was in the network center too.
[00:31] <KFKG_> ok I connected through the firewall to the server, i am looking at an all black screen inside realvnc
[00:34] <sarnold> KFKG_: that sounds like real progress; this looks like the next step http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/faq.html#faq-headless
[00:36] <KFKG_> sarnold, now I am really llost
[00:38] <sarnold> KFKG_: you need to create an x11 server on the machine for x11vnc to export; the karlrunge.com link shows some small configuration sections for an xorg.conf file that will create the X11 server
[00:39] <KFKG_> ok when I try to run the x11vnc its failing now
[00:39] <sarnold> with what error message?
[00:40] <KFKG_> xopen_display failed
[00:40] <KFKG_> and they say windoze is complicated lol
[00:42] <KFKG_> in the old days we just used remote desktop/vnc to connect and we could see kde fine
[00:42] <sarnold> it'd probably be easier if someone around here had done this recently; the handful of times I've run programs remotely, the usual x11 forwarding over ssh worked perfectly, but it was for things like netscape navigator or mozilla that I didn't care if they died if the link went dead..
[00:42] <sarnold> but doing the whole gui session, and for an x11 server that has no hardware, it's a bit more complicated :)
[00:46] <KFKG_> sarnold, would you advise to go back to windows server?
[00:46] <KFKG_> thats what we are migrating from
[00:46] <sarnold> KFKG_: the last windows server I used was NT 4.0. It bluescreened every thursday and we never figured out why.
[00:47] <sarnold> so my advice on windows issues may not be entirely up to date with modern things :)
[00:47] <KFKG_> sarnold lol
[00:47] <KFKG_> We were running a cloud server with windows 2008 server dedicated datacenter r2
[00:48] <KFKG_> we thought we could migrate to linux to save on license fees
[00:48] <KFKG_> but if we cannot even get a gui thats not showing promises
[00:48] <KFKG_> it took a week to get the windows server running and all setup
[00:48] <KFKG_> I have no issue with linux, to be very fair
[00:48] <KFKG_> when I can see it....
[00:48] <sarnold> hehe
[00:50] <KFKG_> we have just completed a plesk config with 11 websites, we had just gotten the ftp / email servers running
[00:51] <KFKG_> I have no issue with debian or suse or even ubuntu, when I can configure and install the programs
[00:51] <KFKG_> when they turned on this box they gave us a blinking cursor and that was it
[00:51] <sarnold> please tell me the plesk server is firewalled agressively
[00:51] <KFKG_> on windows it is yes
[00:52] <KFKG_> we have rules setup like you would not believe
[00:52] <KFKG_> only ports open on that server are the ones we need to communicate with the outside world
[00:52] <KFKG_> I personally hate plesk
[00:52] <KFKG_> we uninstalled the mail and ftp clients and only used it for the websites, plesk is just a cover window dressing for IIS
[00:53] <sarnold> those sorts of web management frontends are the cause of most hacked linux boxes. or maybe they're number two, right behind guessed ssh passwords.
[00:53] <KFKG_> hacked linux?
[00:53] <KFKG_> our plesk was in windows
[00:53] <KFKG_> lol
[00:53] <sarnold> I suspect their windows versions are no better ;)
[00:53] <KFKG_> they wanted us to do a managed linux with plesk but said we would have no gui
[00:54] <sarnold> not to crap on plesk specifically, I further expect it's parity with all the others
[00:56] <KFKG_> not that I need to confer with my partner the licensing fees are not looking so bad now
[00:56] <KFKG_> doh i meant now
[01:01] <sarnold> KFKG_: skimming the rivendell wiki it looks like it ought to be possible to run the rivendell server on one machine and use other workstations as clients
[01:02] <KFKG_> sarnold riv is very powerful
[01:02] <KFKG_> but it needs a gui
[01:02] <sarnold> KFKG_: it might be worth trying to figure out if you actuyally need a gui on the server at all; if you can just connect to it with rivendell clients on your other computers, that'd feel a lot esier to me than managing a vnc server..
[01:02] <KFKG_> we are only running one riv host
[01:03] <KFKG_> the riv client is the riv server
[01:03] <KFKG_> same machine
[01:03] <sarnold> ow :/
[01:03] <sarnold> dang
[01:03] <KFKG_> mysql qwill be installed as well for the wordpress sites so we will just add a database
[01:04] <KFKG_> but honestly getting to rivendell may prove challenging and honestly I am not seeing the benefits
[01:05] <KFKG_> the goals of moving to linux box were to use rivendell and run the server like a normal gui server
[01:13] <sarnold> I think that's still possible, I just hoped there was an easier way :)
[01:13] <KFKG_> sarnold
[01:13] <KFKG_> its been a day now and still no gui
[01:13] <KFKG_> care to login and take a crack at it ;)
[01:13] <sarnold> KFKG_: sure, you got one, all black, but you got one :)
[01:13] <KFKG_> LMAO
[01:16] <sarnold> hah, figures, karl's got a script to run to set the whole thing up! http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/Xdummy
[01:31] <KFKG_> sarnold its not a package on any source
[01:31] <sarnold> KFKG_?
[01:32] <KFKG_> I tried to apt the pacakge
[01:35] <sarnold> KFKG_: hmm, funny, now that I read a bit more of http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ I start to think there might be something easier, perhaps vnc4server or tightvncserver would do better
[01:35] <sarnold> KFKG_: (that Xdummy script you could just download with wget or curl, chmod 755 the thing, and run it if you trust the author..)
[01:36] <sarnold> I have no idea which would be easier..
[01:36] <KFKG_> sarnold the issue still remains that for whatever reason these things do not want to work for me
[01:36] <KFKG_> I remember tightvnc for windows that is
[01:36] <KFKG_> I just need a gui so I can config this box
[01:52] <Contigi> errmagawd
[01:53] <Contigi> so I just use a command to manually move files from a download to my media folder but I did sudo cp download/* media/*
[01:53] <Contigi> instead of the mv command .. erased everything that was in there
[01:54] <Contigi> any good way to go about getting this restored back to before it was cp
[01:56] <sarnold> Contigi: so, you want to take e.g. half the stuff from media/ and move them back to download/  ?
[01:57] <Contigi> well the files in media were far more important. I guess im looking for a way to get the media folder back rather than the download
[01:58] <sarnold> hmm, I guess I'm confused then.. can you pastebin the actual commands you ran, from history?
[01:59] <Contigi> sudo cp -r Downloads/* Media/*
[02:00] <Contigi> I then ctrl+c out of that command as I releaized I just wanted to do sudo mv Downloads/* Media/*
[02:00] <Contigi> not I find that the entire directoy in Media/ is empty
[02:00] <Contigi> excpet the 3 files that got moved into there from Downloads/
[02:02] <sarnold> are there any directories in Media? it could be all the Media stuff got moved into that subdirectory
[02:04] <Contigi> well how the hell did that happen
[02:04] <Contigi> lol thanks sarnold
[02:04] <sarnold> cp assumes the finaly argument is the directory to move multiple  things into
[02:05] <sarnold> foo/* bar/* tells the shell to glob both those directories...
[02:05] <Contigi> so it takes the last directory in bar/* and places it all in there than?
[02:05] <sarnold> if the last argument on the command line, e.g. Media/zz  just happens to be a directory, cp will shove everything that you listed into the named directory
[02:06] <sarnold> now, of course, 'last' is funny, some shells sort it, some shells don't, etc. but IFF the last argument is a directory, cp will start doing what it was told to do :)
[02:06] <Contigi> ahh, i'm ok with that - just glad I didn't lose that directory
[02:06] <sarnold> if the last thing isn't a directory it bitches:
[02:06] <sarnold> cp: target ‘b/4’ is not a directory
[02:07] <Contigi> interesting. I will have to go read some more on this mystical cp command I thought was simple. Thanks so much sarnold, I really appreciate your help here
[02:08] <Contigi> I thought I lost all my porn there for a minute...
[02:08] <Contigi> lol jk
[08:05] <jonah> hi is any body any good with cups and could please help? I've tried in the cups channel but no replies. I'm running ubuntu server and cups was working great with shared printer to local network but not to outside world. Now all of a sudden I can no longer connect to cups and just get "unable to connect" error when i visit <IP_ADDRESS>:631 which used to work?
[08:05] <jonah> any help to get this working again would be really appreciated
[09:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:51] <pmatulis> morning
[10:53] <lordievader> Hey pmatulis
[12:15] <mborges> morning
[12:15] <mborges> :-)
[12:48] <teward> good morning all
[12:48] <teward> :)
[12:49] <rbasak> o/
[12:49] <teward> hiya rbasak
[14:55] <thebwt> morning folks
[14:59] <RoyK> localtime();
[15:13] <guga> thebwt: good evening )
[15:13] <thebwt> :)
[16:54] <wehde> does anyone know of some good open source linux management tools like puppet or landscape that are free?
[16:55] <wehde> looking to manage 70+ ubuntu machines and landscape is a bit expensive for our blood
[16:55] <maswan> like puppet or quattor?
[16:56] <jpds> wehde: puppet/ansible/chef/...
[16:56] <wehde> jpds, puppet has a pretty big price tag. ill look into ansible
[16:57] <maswan> my collegues are deploying puppet right now and are def not paying anything
[16:57] <jpds> wehde: puppet enterprise has a price tag
[16:57] <thebwt> wehde: what kind of management?
[16:57] <jpds> wehde: puppet itself doesn't
[16:58] <jpds> wehde: sudo apt-get install puppetmaster on the server, sudo apt-get install puppet on the clients
[16:58] <RoyK> wehde: puppet is OSS
[16:58] <RoyK> we're looking at ansible atm
[16:58] <jpds> ansible is all the rage these days
[16:58]  * RoyK gets a headache even thinking about Ruby
[16:58]  * thebwt prefers saltstack, though some people may hold past silly things against them.
[16:58] <RoyK> cfengine is another
[16:58] <wehde> basically i'm looking at basic operations such as managing upgrades and packages
[16:59] <RoyK> wehde: all of them can do that
[16:59] <wehde> but i would also like some at a glance info and be able to copy down files to groups of machines
[16:59] <RoyK> wehde: all of them can do that too
[16:59] <wehde> is ansible OSS?
[17:00] <jpds> wehde: Yes
[17:00] <RoyK> even pssh should work
[17:00] <RoyK> wehde: all mentioned tools are OSS
[17:00] <thebwt> wehde: https://docs.saltstack.com/en/getstarted/fundamentals/index.html
[17:00] <thebwt> for what you're doing, any of these will work
[17:01] <jpds> wehde: At this point, it's literally a matter of preference
[17:01] <wehde> i'll check out puppet's community edition and ansible
[17:01] <thebwt> my specific case, and the reasons I'm looking at spacewalk, is that I can't necessarily keep an agent on each of the client machines like that.
[17:01] <RoyK> wehde: are all machines linux, or is it a mixed environment?
[17:01] <RoyK> thebwt: you don't need that with ansible, it uses ssh
[17:01] <wehde> i currently use cssh and webmin for servers but i'm looking at up to 150 clients that need to be managed
[17:02] <RoyK> !webmin
[17:02] <thebwt> RoyK: still problematic :( we need rhel style repo channels
[17:02] <thebwt> for compliance BS
[17:02] <RoyK> ouch
[17:02] <RoyK> not my cup of tea
[17:02] <wehde> its a mixed environment but we are slowly going all linux
[17:03] <wehde> front office is windows but our production floor is purely linux now
[17:03] <wehde> eventually i'll convince front office to dump M$
[17:04] <wehde> *eventually win10 will convince them to dump M$
[17:04] <wehde> RoyK, do you prefer ansible over puppet?
[17:06] <jpds> wehde: Do you prefer vim or emacs?
[17:06] <RoyK> wehde: I do, although I haven't implementet neither. I don't really like Ruby, the language of choice in Puppet. Ansible is rather easy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xew7CMkL7jY
[17:07] <RoyK> jpds: https://xkcd.com/378/
[17:07] <jpds> Puppet doesn't completely use Ruby, it has its own thing kind of based off it
[17:07] <jpds> And actually, Puppet is alright once you have it all up and running
[17:09] <wehde> ill just try puppet and ansible both
[17:09] <wehde> thanks for the suggestions
[17:12] <RoyK> jpds: sure, but ansible is alright after an apt-get install on the central server, no agents needed ;)
[17:12] <jpds> RoyK: Sometimes, agents are nice
[17:12] <RoyK> jpds: sometimes, but usually not needed
[17:13] <wehde> checking out ansible after lunch
[17:13] <wehde> thanks
[17:13] <jpds> RoyK: I do a change on my puppetmaster, test on one machine, walk away and let the others do it
[17:13] <wehde> i prefer nano btw
[17:13] <RoyK> haha :)
[17:13] <wehde> or the butterfly
[17:13]  * patdk-wk sticks to wordstar
[17:13] <RoyK> :)
[17:37] <pmatulis> i remember wordstar, just barely
[18:46] <catphish> i just upgraded a host with software RAID + LVM from 12.04 to 14.04, the result is that grub can't find its modules at boot and drops me to a rescue prompt, is there an obvious reason for this, and something i can do to prevent it?
[18:47] <bekks> Whats the actual error message you get?
[18:48] <catphish> i'll reboot and paste it
[18:49] <catphish> "error: file not found." http://i.imgur.com/AS8RGIM.png
[18:57] <catphish> interesting, booting from my second drive fixed it, i guess grub was updated but only installed to sda
[18:58] <catphish> i guess now it's booted, a grub-install to both drives will sort it
[19:01] <catphish> boot is now being interrupted with a warning "diskfilter writes are not supported" but it boots
[19:03] <teknomega> hi all
[19:03] <teknomega> if i installed postfix using apt-get install postfix
[19:03] <teknomega> how do i reconfigure it
[19:03] <teknomega> when i first installed it.. it asked me how i wanted to set it up
[19:03] <teknomega> i want to rerun that initial setup application that apt-get gave me
[19:03] <teknomega> nvm i figured it
[19:04] <teknomega> dpkg-reconfigure
[19:04] <catphish> try dpkg-reconfigure
[19:04] <catphish> ^^ :)
[19:23] <KFKG_> Hey everyone, day 3 of this madness, I am trying to install and run a GUI on Ubuntu server 14, I want to be able to remotely login and view the desktop like we can in windows RDP, can someone help me? I have installed KDE and X11vnc and i can login via X11vnc but the screen just shows a few icons and the desktop is completely frozen
[19:23] <jrwren> is there a way to configure apt http proxy to NOT use the Acquire::http::Proxy value for localhost
[19:24] <sarnold> jrwren: Acquire::http::proxy::<IP_ADDRESS> DIRECT;
[19:24] <sarnold> sigh I didn't mean to get the newline, too..
[19:24] <sarnold> jrwren: replace the <IP_ADDRESS> with <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:24] <jrwren> sarnold: thank you!
[19:24] <jrwren> I've used that before and had forgotten!
[19:25] <sarnold> :)
[19:26] <sarnold> KFKG_: I wonder if the kde windowmanager is going to want to do too many graphics-hungry things while decorating windows and so forth; try a simple stupid window manager without a desktop environment, perhaps? openbox or fluxbox or twm or fvwm or i3 or notion or evilwm or something else that's just simple..
[19:50] <thebwt> modern kde hasn't worked well with vnc for me. Any desktop that uses 3d accell could be like that I imagine
[19:50] <thebwt> have you tried the xubuntu-desktop ?
[19:51] <thebwt> and how fast is your pipe?
[19:51]  * thebwt grins
[19:51] <thebwt> In college I'd run crazy crazy stuff over "ssh -X"
[19:52] <thebwt> so, depending on what you need the "desktop" for,  you may not need all that
[19:52] <thebwt> just get in with ssh w/ x forwarding and start x
[19:54] <jrwren> I occasionally miss the LBX exension
[19:54] <sarnold> thebwt: he does have a Fast Enough pipe, but ssh -X won't work because he needs the application to continue running when clients disconnect :(
[19:56] <thebwt> oh, got it
[20:02] <|TheWolf|> Hi! I'm not sure this is the right channel, if it's not, feel free to point me to a better suited one :-) I have a (Debian) server on which I run a Ubuntu virtual machine whose virtual disk I want to increase. I guess after doing so I need to adjust the root partition of the Ubuntu installation. How do I do that without any kind of graphical interface? Every solution I can find on the net requires me to either sit in front of th
[20:02] <|TheWolf|> e host machine or at least have some kind of graphical interface to it...
[20:02] <thebwt> so is the physical disk bigger, but the partition hasn't grown?
[20:03] <thebwt> sorry, the 'virtual block device'
[20:04] <|TheWolf|> Well, the physical size of the host machine is still the same. But I am going to adjust the size of the virtual disk ("the .img file").
[20:04] <|TheWolf|> yes
[20:04] <thebwt> I think this is what you're looking for: http://linux.die.net/man/8/resize2fs
[20:04] <|TheWolf|> Haven't done that, but I guess the Ubuntu root partition won't auto-adjust to it. If it did, that would be perfect, of course...
[20:04] <thebwt> it may, depends on the virt system
[20:05] <|TheWolf|> I use kvm
[20:06] <thebwt> i've not touched anything but xen in a while (which doesn't), so I can't say
[20:06] <|TheWolf|> Okay, that looks pretty good. So the introductory sentence of --> http://www.howtogeek.com/114503/how-to-resize-your-ubuntu-partitions/ about not being able to resize Ubuntu partitions without a kind of live CD is not true?
[20:06] <thebwt> but I'm mostly sure that's what you need
[20:06] <RoyK> |TheWolf|: virt-manager is rather useful for that
[20:06] <RoyK> |TheWolf|: just use it over remote X
[20:06] <RoyK> |TheWolf|: add a new storage device and add it to your LVM setup
[20:07] <RoyK> |TheWolf|: increasing a storage device should be possible as well, but I've never done that
[20:07] <|TheWolf|> RoyK : unfortunately, there is no LVM in the VM -.- that would make my life so much easier
[20:07] <thebwt> |TheWolf|:  yea, you don't need a live cd, thats crazy talk
[20:07] <thebwt> well, no I get it
[20:07] <RoyK> |TheWolf|: try to ask on #virt @ irc.oftc.net
[20:07] <thebwt> they're assuming single disk
[20:08] <thebwt> resize2fs should handle what you need
[20:08] <RoyK> thebwt: partitions need to be changed as well
[20:08] <thebwt> ohoh
[20:08] <thebwt> derp
[20:08]  * RoyK never sets up anything without LVM
[20:08] <thebwt> that's the catch
[20:08] <thebwt> now, I am betting kvm grows the partition
[20:08] <thebwt> though
[20:09] <shauno> yeah.  if you've formatted a raw device, resize2fs will work.  if it's partitioned, you need to grow the partition, then the filesystem
[20:09] <thebwt> I'm a terrible gambler
[20:09] <|TheWolf|> RoyK : I don't, either. Unfortunately, though, I wasn't the responsible for that server until a week ago...
[20:09] <shauno> the easiest way I know of to grow the partition is simple to delete it and create a new one that starts in exactly the same place.  of course, backup is step 0 there.
[20:09] <jrwren> |TheWolf|: once the img is rezized, resize2fs will work, or maybe you have partitions in the VM on that img. you'd need to expand the partition and then run resize2fs
[20:09] <RoyK> |TheWolf|: try named channel
[20:10] <|TheWolf|> jrwren : yep, of course there's partitions in there. Everything else would be too easy...
[20:10] <jrwren> |TheWolf|: hehe. just root and swap or even more partitions?
[20:11] <jrwren> |TheWolf|: on plus side, now is a great opportunity to simplify :)
[20:11] <|TheWolf|> just root and swap
[20:12] <|TheWolf|> 4GB of both, actually. No idea why anyone would create such a small root partition on a host that has >1TB of free storage...
[20:12] <jrwren> |TheWolf|: I would deactivate the swap, delete that partition and expand root partition to fill block, run resize2fs and then apt-get install swapspace for my swap.
[20:12]  * RoyK would reinstall the PoS with LVM
[20:13] <|TheWolf|> ok guys, thanks for the suggestions. I'll try my best tomorrow ;-)
[20:13] <|TheWolf|> thanks a lot!
[20:13] <jrwren> good luck, have fun
[20:13] <|TheWolf|> yeah, I have been thinking about reinstalling the whole thing too
[20:13] <|TheWolf|> I'll see if I can sell that to the customer
[20:14] <RoyK> |TheWolf|: probably worth the effort so you don't have to spend hours on this next time
[20:14] <|TheWolf|> RoyK : yep, but according to customers there will never be a next time ;-)
[20:14] <|TheWolf|> we'll see
[20:14] <|TheWolf|> cu
[22:26] <pauljw> !I
[22:40] <jak2016> hi all
[22:40] <jak2016> i want get the date in this format   YYYY_MM_DD_HH_SS i try: http://pastie.org/10517007    but not work any advice?
[22:43] <sarnold> jak2016: bash is very different from dos command.com or cmd.exe scripting; if you're going to be doing a lot of it, it might be worth a day or two at http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
[22:44] <sarnold> jak2016: try this:  DATE=`date +"%y-%m-%d-%H-%M-%S"`   echo $DATE
[22:46] <jak2016> ok thanks
[22:57] <ponyofdeath> hi, anyone know how I can mount a read only iso, then modify files i need added to it then repackage it. with something like aufs? or overlayfs?
[23:06] <sarnold> ponyofdeath: the bsdtar program may be able to help, http://www.libarchive.org/
[23:07] <sarnold> ponyofdeath: if that doesn't, then xorriso probably can, but I have a vague feeling that that's work
[23:07] <ponyofdeath> sarnold: thanks
[23:12] <jak2000> thanks
[23:12] <jak2000> for copy a file from server1 to server2(remote servers) wich is better? scp or rsync?
[23:13] <sarnold> I choose between scp and rsync depending upon the size of the file, whether or not the file on the other system is "close" to the file I'm sending, etc
[23:13] <sarnold> .. and the network between the two systems
[23:16] <jak2000> 450Kb
[23:16] <jak2000> scp /home/user/table.csv jane@host.example.com:/home/jane/mytable1.csv   ?
[23:17] <sarnold> yeah that should work; for one smallish file, scp is probably fine
[23:17] <jak2000> and with rsync?
[23:18] <sarnold> I'd start with rsync -avzP /home/user/table.csv jane@host.example.com:/home/jane/mytable1.csv
[23:26] <jak2000> man you know about mysqldump command?
[23:28] <sarnold> I know it exists but that's it..
[23:29] <sturmflut> Good evening! I happen to be in Austin, Texas in about two weeks and if you would like to hang out, please just contact me in private.
[23:29] <jak2000> i not want put the password on my backup script: http://pastie.org/10517069
[23:31] <sarnold> jak2000: put the "> /backup/$MYDATE2" part at the end of the line
[23:32] <jak2000> in wich line?
[23:32] <sarnold> the mysqldump line
[23:34] <jak2000> like this: mysqldump --opt dbtarimas tmtarima ttarcprod ttarclote > /backup/$MYDATE2
[23:34] <jak2000> and user and password?
[23:34] <jak2000> i want automate the task
[23:35] <sarnold> I'd move the user and password stuff to be immediately after "mysqldump" -- maybe you can specify a file to use instead of command line, that'd be better if it is an option
[23:35] <jak2000> yes
[23:35] <jak2000> but i down want specify the user and password in this file
[23:35] <jak2000> ok i am reading someting
[23:36] <jak2000> man when execute this line:
[23:36] <jak2000>  rsync -avzP /home/user/table.csv jane@host.example.com:/home/jane/mytable1.csv   ask me a password
[23:36] <jak2000> where put the password for my cron job take the password and execute the task??
[23:37] <sarnold> create an ssh key for that, ssh keys are great things
[23:37] <jak2000> sarnold have a link for follow?
[23:37] <jak2000> for read/learn?
[23:39] <sarnold> jak2000: this is a decent short guide. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys  -- this one is a lot more detailed and covers a lot of stuff that's less likely to be useful, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSH_keys
[23:39] <jak2000> ok i am reading thanks
[23:40] <jak2000> other question (last of the day i think) with crontab, how to execute a script all days exept Sunday?
[23:40] <sarnold> jak2000: "1-6" for the day-of-week field should do it
[23:40] <jak2000> ok
[23:41] <sarnold> jak2000: see crontab(5) for full syntax
[23:41] <jak2000> and: every 10 minutes from 8am to 8pm ?
[23:41] <jak2000> ok
[23:42] <sarnold> 8-20 in the hour field, 0,10,20,30,40,50  in the minute field
[23:42] <jak2000> 0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * 1-6 /usr/scripts/respsql.sh
[23:42] <jak2000> ?
[23:43] <jak2000> error
[23:43] <jak2000> 0,10,20,30,40,50 8-20 * * 1-6 /usr/scripts/respsql.sh
[23:44] <sarnold> that looks right
[23:44] <jak2000> sarnold you worked with certificates? (forget the last question of the day :)   ?
[23:44] <sarnold> jak2000: not much
[23:45] <jak2000> my dude, is, i need pay for generate a .cer?   (f course i can generate it without paying but is invalid)
[23:45] <jak2000> ?
[23:45] <sarnold> jak2000: https://letsencrypt.org/
[23:46] <sarnold> jak2000: https://www.startssl.com/
[23:46] <jak2000> interesting the first
[23:47] <jak2000> ooooo goood
[23:47] <jak2000> thanks
[23:47] <jak2000> much to read.... thanks friend
[23:48] <sarnold> note that startssl charges for revocation
[23:48] <sarnold> I don't know how letsencrypt does revocation..
[23:48] <jak2000> charges is $$$$ ?
[23:49] <teward> sarnold: i didn't know letsencrypt was open for business yet?
[23:50] <sarnold> teward: I think I saw a third-party site with a letsencrypt cert the other day
[23:50] <teward> sarnold: i know they've got beta and such for some sponsors
[23:50] <teward> but we're talking sums of money there
[23:50] <teward> "In Limited Beta"
[23:51] <teward> so, not 'public beta'
[23:53] <jak2000> scp /backup/tari.sql jak:mypaas@mydomain.noip.me:/home/jak/sql/    <--- not work :(
[23:53] <jak2000> ssh: Could not resolve hostname jak: Name or service not known
[23:53] <sarnold> jak2000: probably user:pass won't work
[23:54] <sarnold> user@host should work
[23:54] <jak2000> and the pass?
[23:54] <sarnold> ssh keys :)
[23:54] <jak2000> only ?
[23:54] <sarnold> I think so
[23:54] <jak2000> same as rsync
[23:55] <sarnold> yeah, rsync just runs over ssh, so it expects the same things
[23:55] <sarnold> and ssh keys are easiest to use
[23:55] <jak2000> then reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys     https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSH_keys


[08:11] <Laney> hey, our early DMB meetings seem to have stopped being recurring on http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/ (should be every 4 weeks from 03/06) - can someone fix it please? pleia2?
[08:11] <Laney> I got added to the event but it doesn't let me do that
[08:29] <bkerensa> Laney: surely it can be re-added
[08:30] <Laney> I'm sure it can
[08:30] <Laney> that's what I'm asking for in fact :-)
[08:32] <bkerensa> Laney: Completed as you request, tomorrow this will be.
[08:33] <Laney> vielen dank
[15:37] <PaulW2U> pleia2: the link http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate at the foot of the newsletter is now error 404
[15:38] <PaulW2U> presumably is should now be http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved ?
[15:40] <akgraner> pleia2, want the template changed?
[15:42] <akgraner> I went ahead and updated the template - thanks PaulW2U  for pointing that out
[15:43] <PaulW2U> akgraner: I noticed last night but too tired to tell anyone while lying in bed with my netbook :)
[15:43] <akgraner> been there done that
[15:44] <akgraner> :)
[16:05] <pleia2> akgraner: go for it
[16:12] <akgraner> done :-)
[16:13]  * pleia2 fixed calendar for laney
[16:14] <akgraner> pleia2, thanks
[17:52] <Unit193> Oh, that'd be my bad.  I thought that was one of the header links that always errors out (Not real errors, just either poor redirects, or other minor problems.)
[17:52] <Unit193> (Manually checked them when they started, were working too. :/ )
[17:53] <pleia2> heh, I check that link specificially every few months or so
[17:56] <Unit193> Other 3 erroring out still work.
[19:31] <Unit193> pleia2: You have any recommendations for the link checking script?
[21:09] <pleia2> nope
[21:09] <Unit193> Ko.


[13:37] <antono> hello all
[13:38] <antono> how can i configure EC2 image size?
[13:54] <antono> is it possible to install 2 services on 1 machine
[13:54] <antono>          with juju?


[01:27] <daftykins> amps and watts 0o
[05:07] <MartijnVdS> http://thecodelesscode.com/case/124
[08:24] <mapps> hey
[08:24] <MartijnVdS> \o mapps, how were the Nether Lands? :)
[08:25] <mapps> hey MartijnVdS !!!
[08:25] <mapps> expensive dude
[08:25] <mapps> didnt pay less than 5.50 euros generally for a beer
[08:25] <dwatkins> mornin
[08:26] <mapps> cheapest was at the football
[08:26] <mapps> we went to see Utretch v PSV ..got the tram..then the train then bus with the Uttech fans
[08:26] <mapps> 4 euros a pint at the football!!
[08:26] <mapps> elsewhere id been p[aying between 6-8 euros
[08:47] <diplo> Morning all
[09:07] <diplo> Got a friends laptop that has a dead hdd, it's a 640gb WD ( WD6400BPVT ) anyone recommend a drive, not sure they want to spend on SSD so make/model ideas would be great
[09:07]  * diplo is so out of hardware atm, whats good / bad etc
[09:08] <MartijnVdS> diplo: samsung ssds are great value for money
[09:08] <MartijnVdS> don't know about spinning rust
[09:09] <dwatkins> I'm still waiting for 1TB SSDs to come down in price.
[09:10] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: prices are dropping slowly
[09:10] <dwatkins> good to know, MartijnVdS
[09:10] <diplo> I'll give him a couple of options I guess
[09:11] <dwatkins> diplo: I went for a hybrid Seagate drive, not as fast as an SSD, but it seems to be better than a standard disk
[09:11] <diplo> kk, I'll take a look at that as well
[09:12] <diplo> Need to find someone with a Win7 Home Premium disc as well
[09:12] <MartijnVdS> diplo: if you have a valid key, you can just download an ISO
[09:12] <MartijnVdS> diplo: http://www.w7forums.com/threads/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads.12325/
[09:12] <mapps> MartijnVdS,
[09:12] <TwistedLucidity> dwaktins: The hybrid drive working OK? I thought there were issues with those (prolly when the hybrid nature relied on proprietary drivers)
[09:12] <MartijnVdS> diplo: both 32 and 64 bits
[09:13] <mapps> you never replied:D
[09:13] <diplo> Yeah have the key.. didn't know that top man thanks.. was easier when I worked with a company that had MS licenses :/
[09:13] <MartijnVdS> mapps: sorry, someone called me into their meeting :)
[09:13] <dwatkins> TwistedLucidity: mine has been fine for the past year in my MacBook Pro.
[09:13] <mapps> AHA
[09:13] <mapps> I went to uretch v psv with the uretch fans..had a good time in holland
[09:13] <mapps> but it was expensive MartijnVdS
[09:14] <MartijnVdS> mapps: And €5/pint is quite a lot.. though most people drink beer in 0.33l here, so it doesn't look like "€5 for a pint"
[09:14] <mapps> if i wasn't in a good job.no way i could afford it mate
[09:14] <mapps> yes
[09:14] <mapps> i saw
[09:14] <mapps> most the time was likehalf a pint
[09:14] <mapps> but
[09:14] <MartijnVdS> mapps: central London beer/food isn't cheap either btw :)
[09:14] <diplo> I've still not recovered from a stag do in Sweden a few years ago!
[09:14] <diplo> It nearly broke me
[09:14] <mapps> MartijnVdS,  im from London
[09:14] <MartijnVdS> diplo: financially, mentally or physically?
[09:14] <mapps> but it's not the same as tourist areas
[09:14] <mapps> tourist areas fleech you
[09:14] <mapps> real expensive
[09:14] <mapps> but MartijnVdS
[09:15] <diplo> Financially mainly, but I guess the the other two slightly :)
[09:15] <diplo> £8-10 a pint!
[09:15] <mapps> i dont get it..ihave a good joib....
[09:15] <diplo> In the first 3 hours we'd spent £100 + each
[09:15] <dwatkins> a pint of what, liquid gold?
[09:15] <mapps> what if i worked in a shop? and earnt like 15ka year
[09:15] <mapps> how can they afford to go to holland and everywhere else /
[09:16] <MartijnVdS> mapps: don't go to tourist towns, drink the cheapest available beer?
[09:16] <mapps> but
[09:16] <mapps> dude
[09:16] <diplo> Just lager, alcohol is very expensive over there, you're not allowed to be visibly drunk either or you won't get into clubs etc
[09:16] <mapps> in amsterdam
[09:16] <mapps> cheapest we paid was 5.50 ..the cheapest beer was at uteetch 4 euros
[09:16] <mapps> i mean how can someone in a low paid job afford to go away lots when it seems expensive to me?
[09:16] <MartijnVdS> mapps: I have no idea. I got 3 beers for €8 on Friday, so it can't be that bad everywhere
[09:16] <MartijnVdS> mapps: near the Waterlooplein
[09:16] <mapps> is that amsterdam?
[09:17] <MartijnVdS> mapps: yes, and central too
[09:17] <mapps> mm
[09:17] <mapps> whats it near
[09:17] <mapps> and u sa 3pints
[09:17] <mapps> small beers or big
[09:17] <MartijnVdS> mapps: Not pints, but not drams either.. "normal-sized" Dutch beers ;)
[09:18] <mapps> aha
[09:18] <MartijnVdS> mapps: https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!q=waterlooplein+amsterdam
[09:18] <mapps> drams?
[09:18] <mapps> lots were small beers MartijnVdS
[09:18] <mapps> but so ok sure
[09:18] <diplo> dwatkins: Something like this ? http://www.ebuyer.com/480300-seagate-500gb-solid-state-hybrid-drive-sshd-st500lm000
[09:18] <mapps> but how would someone on  a low wage afford to come to holland and go to lots of other places
[09:18] <mapps> i mean a uk person
[09:19] <MartijnVdS> mapps: consumer debt
[09:19] <mapps> Aha
[09:19] <mapps> id rather not be in debt
[09:19] <mapps> :)
[09:19] <mapps> going away again in 4 weeks
[09:20] <mapps> 4th time this year
[09:20] <mapps> :D
[09:21] <MartijnVdS> nah, in 4 weeks it'll be next year
[09:21] <foobarry> car wouldn't start today :(
[09:21] <mapps> MartijnVdS,
[09:21] <mapps> but
[09:21] <mapps> we do holiday
[09:21] <mapps> april-april
[09:21] <mapps> so i meant holiday year
[09:21] <mapps> itll be y 4th abroad on holiday year
[09:21] <mapps> then i have a week off in March too..and might go away then maybe
[09:22] <MartijnVdS> for now, my next trip will probably be in July
[09:23] <mapps> to where
[09:23] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:23] <MartijnVdS> mapps: Jersey, probably through France (by car)
[09:23] <mapps> im going away in July too
[09:23] <mapps> back to CZECH :ds
[09:23] <mapps> Ahh cool
[09:23] <MartijnVdS> mapps: stag party? 8-)
[09:23] <mapps> ive got a job interview in January for a new job
[09:24] <mapps> haha no
[09:24] <mapps> i went there june this yar MartijnVdS  and my friend lives there
[09:24] <mapps> just going to see him
[09:24] <mapps> ]he's a good friend
[09:24] <mapps> else i wouldn't bother
[09:24] <mapps> but
[09:25] <mapps> ive got an interview in january for a new job
[09:25] <mapps> in Czech!!!
[09:25] <mapps> and he's the ONLY person i know
[09:26] <MartijnVdS> in the world?
[09:26] <mapps> na
[09:26] <mapps> but in czech epublic
[09:26] <mapps> where i'd be going
[09:27] <mapps> went there this summer as i sa and met my mate
[09:28] <mapps> i was a;ready going back in june/july regardless of if i get a job there
[09:52] <shauno> curious, does you speak czech?
[09:57] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Festivus! :-D
[09:59] <mapps> shauno,  me? no
[09:59] <mapps> but
[09:59] <mapps> they say they will provide language lessons
[10:00] <mapps> Im englsh
[10:00] <mapps> im only moving if i can get 60k+
[10:00] <mapps> gbp
[10:02] <shauno> just curious because I've been angling around that corner of the world too, but I'm struggling with job ads that never mention whether they require the local language
[10:02] <dwatkins> mapps: may I ask what kind of job you're going for?
[10:03] <mapps> working at a bookies
[10:04] <mapps> and no not in a shop taking bets;p
[10:04] <mapps> i said before..i work for 365 atm
[10:04] <dwatkins> interesting, a friend of mine did a PhD on betting systems
[10:04] <mapps> and i figure to ove to CZ id wan 60+
[10:04] <mapps> i see
[10:05] <TwistedLucidity> In mother Poland, horses bet on YOU!
[10:05] <mapps> lol
[10:05]  * foobarry shoots TwistedLucidity
[10:05] <TwistedLucidity> Hmm.....doesn't quite work, does it?
[10:05] <dwatkins> What happened to Russia?
[10:06] <dwatkins> Did they get demoted out of the meme?
[10:06] <jussi> dwatkins: horse meat, poland etc
[10:07] <dwatkins> ah ok, I thought that was all Tesco's fault.
[10:07] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: nah, we had a horse meat scandal here too
[10:08] <shauno> we tried to have one, but no-one cared
[10:08] <MartijnVdS> shauno: some people here cared, but not a lot.
[10:08] <MartijnVdS> shauno: the companies that mis-labeled the meat got taken to court thoguh
[10:08] <shauno> we just had some very excited newspapers for a week or two
[10:09] <jussi> they sell horse meatr in pretty much all the stores here.....
[10:09] <MartijnVdS> jussi: the problem isn't horse meat, it's mis-labeled meat
[10:09] <shauno> as long as it doesn't say beef on the packet, there's nothing wrong with that :)
[10:09] <MartijnVdS> jussi: horse sold as beef
[10:09] <jussi> MartijnVdS: pffffffffttt
[10:10] <jussi> they should just put "mixed meat" on whatever package :P
[10:11] <MartijnVdS> jussi: "assorted meat products"
[10:11] <jussi> MartijnVdS: somehting like that
[10:11] <jussi> I actually like horse meat, its quite nice.
[10:11] <foobarry> beef is better
[10:11] <foobarry> lamb better still
[10:12] <jussi> four legs good, 2 legs bad? :P
[10:13] <foobarry> nah, chicken is nice too
[10:14] <jussi> Lamb is very nice though, its a shame its so hard to find here
[10:14] <shauno> my bigger issue is all the agencies setup after the mad cow stuff. they claim to track everything from the point of origin here.  they even put the name of the farm it came from on the packet
[10:15] <dwatkins> isn't that a good thing, shauno?
[10:15] <dwatkins> I prefer to buy locally sourced food.
[10:15] <shauno> now, if they can't tell whether it's actually a cow, I have very little faith in their ability to tell me which cow
[10:15] <dwatkins> ah I see
[10:15] <foobarry> you are buying "barry"
[10:15] <foobarry> sorry, barry is a rat.
[10:16] <shauno> in theory, it's a great idea.  but it looks like a farce now
[10:17] <dwatkins> I don't eat my pets
[10:17] <foobarry> i would if i was starving
[10:18] <shauno> you should consider it.  apparently humans taste like cured ham :)
[10:18] <MartijnVdS> isn't that what cats are always plotting? to eat their owners?
[10:23] <foobarry> anyone getting nice stuffs for xmas?
[10:26] <shauno> I'm getting a lovely pile of overtime :)
[10:28] <dwatkins> I think I'm getting a Rubik's cube.
[10:31] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:32] <MartijnVdS> $employer gave me a "Minix Neo X7" android box
[10:33] <MartijnVdS> going to try and flash it with something else
[10:33] <brobostigon> :)
[10:34] <MartijnVdS> because android on a TV doesn't work well. Too "touch"y
[10:34] <foobarry> i have android on teh x5 and it hangs after a day
[10:34] <foobarry> and android on a tv does indeed suck
[10:35] <foobarry> let me know how u get on, because i want ubuntu/debian on it
[10:35] <MartijnVdS> But hey, gift horse and all that.
[10:35] <foobarry> unsure if different chipset or not
[10:35] <brobostigon> webos?
[10:35] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: apparently there's http://ubuntu.g8.net/
[10:35] <foobarry> i have it on the office screens
[10:35] <foobarry> rudest distro out there
[10:36] <foobarry> no hardware ui but hey
[10:36] <foobarry> do i have to do other hackery to get that OS working?
[10:37] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: I haven't tried yet
[10:37] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: christmas project for me :)
[10:38] <foobarry> How do I install this?
[10:38] <foobarry> Use Windows machine, Download picuntu-4.5-nand-complete.zip. Unzip at any location.
[10:38] <foobarry> Click on rk_flash_1.37?> RKAndroidtool.exe
[10:38] <foobarry> fails
[10:39] <dwatkins> fails how, foobarry?
[10:39] <foobarry> have to install windows
[10:39] <MartijnVdS> by requiring a Windows machine
[10:39] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: it's an Android machine, it's likely possible to use adb/fastboot
[10:41] <foobarry> i have a windows machine available here at work
[10:41] <foobarry> how are you supposed to connect it i wonder
[10:41] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: mine has both USB "A" ports (to connect devices) and a "Micro B" port to connect it to a PC
[10:41] <foobarry> checks
[10:41] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: or, you can switch the micro-b port to be an USB OTG port, in which case it's another "device"port
[10:43] <dwatkins> czajkowski: you might like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLwML2PagbY
[10:44] <diplo> Anyone ever rooted/rom'd a Kindle Fire 2nd Gen ?
[10:50] <foobarry> MartijnVdS: i have usb A ports and 1 port called otg
[10:51] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: yeah, the OTG port is USB on the Go, it should look like a Micro USB (B) one
[10:51] <MartijnVdS> (like on a phone)
[10:54] <foobarry> i've been foiled by lack of a pin
[10:58] <brobostigon> bbc1 toy story, 3:15pm, :)
[10:58] <foobarry> meh, device not found
[10:58] <bigcalm> Why am I finding it so difficult to work today?
[11:01] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: you might need to enable debug mode etc. in the android settings bit
[11:01] <dwatkins> brobostigon: hexcellent
[11:01] <brobostigon> sid, muahhmuahhhh :)
[11:08] <foobarry> hmm pc doesn't even detect it connected
[11:09] <foobarry> otg port seems very flimsy though
[11:10] <saini> hello all
[11:10] <saini> i have an issue
[11:10] <saini> can anyone help me please
[11:11] <MartijnVdS> saini: sure, what's the problem?
[11:11] <saini> a minute please
[11:12] <brobostigon> "please stand by captain!!!"
[11:13] <saini> i have a laptop compaq presario 510
[11:13] <saini> ram is 1 gb
[11:13] <saini> hard drive is 300 gb
[11:14] <saini> have installed windows 7 pro
[11:14] <saini> i want to install ubuntu 12.04 lts as well
[11:14] <saini> last time i installed both os...there was some problem with windows 7
[11:14] <brobostigon> installer can adjust your partitions to make enough space.
[11:15] <dwatkins> !dual-boot
[11:15] <saini> yes dat i will....by using live ubuntu maker...
[11:15] <dwatkins> hopefully those links are useful, saini
[11:16] <saini> but i want to ask u in person that will it be good ...will my laptop wprk nice and not slow...
[11:16] <saini> see i have no issues with ubuntu..i know its gonna rum the best..
[11:16] <mapps> m1
[11:16] <saini> but just have issues with windows...
[11:16] <MartijnVdS> hmm, rum :P
[11:16] <brobostigon> 1gb of ram isnt huge, but with a nice light DE, it should be fine.
[11:16] <saini> it becomes slow./.
[11:16] <saini> is that because of 1gb ram???
[11:17] <dwatkins> becomes in what way, saini? over time?
[11:17] <saini> windows just becomes slow..
[11:17] <saini> i dnt know why?
[11:17] <saini> :(
[11:17] <brobostigon> as well, i have noticed, if you use a De that hogs the GPU, it can slow things generally,
[11:17] <saini> whats a de?
[11:17] <MartijnVdS> desktop environment
[11:17] <brobostigon> desktop environment
[11:18] <saini> ok..
[11:18] <dwatkins> I have xubuntu on a little netbook, it runs really nicely
[11:18] <saini> so what shud i go for?
[11:18] <saini> ubuntu or xubuntu?
[11:18] <TwistedLucidity> If Windows becomes slow in use; that probably due to the amount of memory being used and programs running.
[11:18] <TwistedLucidity> saini: Go for Xubuntu
[11:18] <saini> are the features of ubuntu and xubuntu same?
[11:19] <TwistedLucidity> Lighterweight and you don't have much RAM.
[11:19] <brobostigon> was true on my eeepc, i had a graphically heavy de on it, anything that needed graphics was just sucked down, as soon as i used a de and wm that was graphically light, anything graphical immediatly sppeded up.
[11:19] <TwistedLucidity> saini: Similar, but not the same.
[11:19] <TwistedLucidity> The DEs are different (Ubuntu uses Unity, Xubuntu uses XFCE).
[11:19] <brobostigon> i would also try lxde, thats pretty light on resources also.
[11:19] <saini> but i like ubuntu just coz its soooo...awesome..
[11:19] <saini> i mean its gui is so good
[11:19] <foobarry> MartijnVdS: looks like otg doesn't work, male to male is required..
[11:19] <TwistedLucidity> You can still browse the web, create documents etc; but the DE looks different.
[11:20] <brobostigon> saini: do some tests, see what you think, try different ones and experiement.
[11:20] <TwistedLucidity> saini: Well, you can always try Ubuntu and if it's too slow, try Xubuntu or Lubuntu or....
[11:20] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
[11:20] <brobostigon> you can install the different de's side by side, and switch on login.
[11:21] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: you need a male micro-b to female-a to use the "on the go" feature, or a male micro-b to male-A (a normal "charging" cable for phones, fir instance) to use it as an USB device on another host
[11:21] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: also, you need to enable debug mode in the menu somewhere
[11:21] <foobarry> i have a regular (2 in fact) usb-A to micro usb
[11:22] <TwistedLucidity> The performance of the GPU (Intel X3100) might be an issue with all the compositing.
[11:22] <saini> i guess i will go for ubuntu only.. :d
[11:22] <saini> ok one more thng
[11:22] <TwistedLucidity> saini: Sure, try it and see. That's the great thing about GNU/Linux.
[11:22] <saini> if i install ubuntu...then is it possible to uninstall it as well
[11:22] <brobostigon> there are no rules, you can do almost anything your heart desires.
[11:22] <foobarry> and the port still does not seem to work tho, with connect to PC, and debug mode
[11:23] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: no idea then ,sorry
[11:23] <gordonjcp> saini: there's nothing to stop you installing the xfce desktop and switching between the two
[11:23] <brobostigon> uninstalling an OS, interesting idea,
[11:23] <foobarry> Power on the device and connect your MINIX NEO X7mini to your PC using the supplied Male-Male USB cable.
[11:23] <foobarry> If the device isn't detected by the PC then enable "Connect to PC" on Android Settings -> USB.
[11:23] <foobarry> Now your PC will detect the device as external storage.
[11:24] <TwistedLucidity> saini: Sure. You can either install a second desktop (as suggested), isntall on top with Xubuntu or whatever, or use GParted to destroy the Ubuntu partition and return the space to Windows.
[11:24] <xnox> google "christmas carols" =)
[11:24] <saini> hihi....i mean will install two os...ubuntu and windows...
[11:24] <saini> den how to uinstall ubuntu after tht?
[11:24] <saini> any idea?
[11:24] <saini> :)
[11:24] <TwistedLucidity> saini: GParted
[11:24] <TwistedLucidity> Destroy the Ubuntu partition, return the space to Windows
[11:24] <brobostigon> saini: in practicality, yo ucould kill the partition, use a windows repair cd to put windows bootloader back in place, and make the partion bigger again.
[11:25] <TwistedLucidity> Or that
[11:25] <brobostigon> but yes, you will need to redo the bootloader,
[11:25] <saini> ahem....ok....my dvdrom doesnt work...and iam actually a torrent based guy... :P
[11:25] <saini> so no original windows.
[11:25] <saini> :D
[11:26] <TwistedLucidity> o_0
[11:26] <saini> infact guys...thnk u so much for your time and worthy suggestions
[11:26] <brobostigon> does freedos have a tool for this?
[11:26] <saini> i will go with ubuntu...
[11:26] <saini> and definitely come back here...
[11:26] <saini> (y)
[11:48] <foobarry> thanks linkedin for discreetly changing my privacy settings on my fake account
[11:48] <foobarry> had it set to anonymous
[11:48] <foobarry> "somebody" changed it
[12:28] <foobarry> whats the name of that script people use to run on ubuntu that shgged everything when you upgraded
[12:30] <foobarry> automatix.
[12:30] <MartijnVdS> *shudder*
[12:30] <foobarry> i think all those guys joined the elementaryos community
[12:30] <foobarry> every day, you get "i installed daily PPA" and now everything broke
[12:31] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: some people are just weird like that
[12:31] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: a few of those people also started Mint, I guess
[12:31] <ali1234> argh
[12:31] <ali1234> so hard drives use like 20W... so why did iomega supply this external hard drive with a 6W power supply?
[12:32] <ali1234> that's just nuts
[12:32] <MartijnVdS> ali1234: because it's not a 20W disk?
[12:32] <ali1234> it is though... it's a WD green
[12:32] <ali1234> 3.5"
[12:32] <MartijnVdS> then iomega just suck
[12:32] <ali1234> yeah
[12:32] <ali1234> they used to be good
[12:32] <ali1234> they probably just sold the name
[12:33] <ali1234> now i'm going to have to go out and buy a new power supply for it
[12:33] <ali1234> somehow the old one lasted for 4 years anyway
[12:38] <foobarry> do i eat pringles knowing they will give me more ulcers for xmas day meal?
[12:41] <foobarry> too late
[13:55] <dwatkins> do the drives need 20 Watts all the time, or is that just the start-up requirement?
[13:55] <dwatkins> maybe the powersupply can deliver that, briefly - maybe not, though
[14:12] <bigcalm> What the name of the black plug you usually get with ribbon cables?
[14:13] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: BT224?
[14:13] <dwatkins> IDC connector, bigcalm?
[14:13] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: maybe that sort of style
[14:14] <bigcalm> dwatkins: that's them!
[14:14] <dwatkins> not sure that applies to the latching ones
[14:14] <dwatkins> woot
[14:14] <MartijnVdS> BT224 connector – also defined by BS9525-F0023, DIN41651, MIL-C-83503 standards; these are the type used on ATA cables and are often simply called "IDC connectors". They mate with either a purpose-made plug or a two-row grid of header pins with 0.1 inch (2.54 mm) spacing.

[14:14] <dwatkins> I made a wristband out of a rainbow-coloured ribbon and some IDC connectors.
[14:14] <bigcalm> What are the chances of Maplin stocking both the plugs and 16 wire ribbon cable?
[14:14] <MartijnVdS> hackspace project? :)
[14:15] <dwatkins> they tend to usually have that sort of thing in stock in the Edinburgh Maplin, bigcalm - I just buy 'em on ebay, though.
[14:15] <dwatkins> (not as fast, of course)
[14:16] <bigcalm> Considering that I need to buy one today... :)
[14:16] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: christmas hacking? :)
[14:17] <dwatkins> I guessed as much, you could reserve the part via their website, bigcalm
[14:17] <dwatkins> also, that saves you ferritting around looking for it
[14:17] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: work. I need to build an interface cable for a device we've written the web interface for
[14:17] <bigcalm> dwatkins: good point
[14:18] <dwatkins> they're usually pretty quick what that sort of thing in my experience.
[14:20] <bigcalm> http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/maplin-double-row-idc-cable-connecter-socket-2x8-fg44x
[14:20] <bigcalm> I think that's what I need
[14:20] <bigcalm> The confusing thing is that they use a stock image for all of the different numbers
[14:22] <bigcalm> http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/data-cable-multicore-16-way-grey-priced-per-03-metre-xr73q
[14:22] <bigcalm> And the cable to go with it
[14:22] <bigcalm> Magic
[14:24] <dwatkins> yeah, I had the same trouble
[14:25] <dwatkins> is it for a RPi, bigcalm?
[14:25] <bigcalm> dwatkins: no, though the RPi was used during prototyping phase
[14:26] <bigcalm> Quite a funky device this company has built
[14:26] <bigcalm> And that's all I can say about it :)
[14:26] <bigcalm> Bloody NDAs
[14:26] <diddledan> grrr
[14:26] <bigcalm> Why does searching Maplin for "chocolate block" not return any results? :(
[14:27] <diddledan> lol
[14:27] <dwatkins> the sockets I have are made for a PCB, but their pins are in a grid, so they actually fit into the holes on the connector (not that they make contact, but you can glue them in if you're not making an actual cable)
[14:27] <dwatkins> haha
[14:27] <diddledan> I'm not sure chocolate block is the technical term
[14:27] <foobarry> /won 3
[14:27] <dwatkins> "Terminal block" I guess
[14:27] <diddledan> although every engineer knows what you mean when you use the term
[14:27] <dwatkins> yup
[14:27] <bigcalm> Humm, I could use the breadboard that I'm already using with the device
[14:29] <bigcalm> Or shall I go all out and buy some vero board?
[14:29] <bigcalm> Again, no search results on Maplin :(
[14:31] <dwatkins> They have loads of veroboard usually, but it's probably sold with its generic name... stripboard
[14:31] <bigcalm> Aha
[14:32] <bigcalm> Yep, going to do this properly
[14:32] <bigcalm> Actually, I think I might have some board here
[14:33] <dwatkins> I have about three spare pieces, as I tend to buy stuff like that "just in case"
[14:39] <gordonjcp> bigcalm: if you need a 16-way IDC cable, why not just cut down a floppy cable or similar?
[14:39]  * bigcalm returns from his electronics tool box
[14:39] <bigcalm> Tiny bit of old stuff :(
[14:40] <bigcalm> gordonjcp: Not sure I have any left
[14:40] <bigcalm> gordonjcp: but that's a good idea though
[14:40] <diddledan> until you want to use said floppy cable
[14:40]  * bigcalm goes looking for a machine that still has a floppy drive in it
[14:41] <MartijnVdS> PATA disks ?
[14:42] <bigcalm> gordonjcp: it's far too big 2x16
[14:42] <bigcalm> gordonjcp: I need 2x8
[14:43] <dwatkins> I'm guessing you don't have any BBC Micro cables to hand, bigcalm ;)
[14:43] <bigcalm> dwatkins: hehe
[14:43] <dwatkins> (I do)
[14:43] <bigcalm> dwatkins: about 20 years ago, yes
[14:43] <dwatkins> I resurrected a Model B+ the other month
[14:44] <bigcalm> I liked that one for the seperate keyboard and plenty of space inside the main unit
[14:46] <dwatkins> I don't think that was the B+.
[14:46] <dwatkins> We bought a Viglen case mod for the original BBC Micro which did that, though.
[14:48] <dwatkins> am I the only one who bought lots of googly eyes after seeing this? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25449223
[14:52] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: http://fuckkyeahwilwheaton.tumblr.com/image/70366051783
[14:52] <MartijnVdS> uh.. !family, URL writer :|
[14:54] <dwatkins> haha awesome
[15:08] <bigcalm>  Click and collect is a handy thing with Maplin. Should hopefully stop me from buying loads of things when I get there later
[15:08] <MartijnVdS> (hint: it won't)
[15:09] <bigcalm> Heh
[15:13] <dwatkins> they put little things next to the till so you think "ooh, an LED book torch, that might be useful!"
[15:15] <foobarry> guy next to me on the train http://imgur.com/STmRQVx
[15:15] <foobarry> why me?
[15:15] <MartijnVdS> foobarry: he's people too!
[15:16] <foobarry> yeah, but he was off his face
[15:16] <foobarry> and mad
[15:17] <foobarry> and thats a rather large joint which are illegal AFAIK
[15:17] <foobarry> in uk
[15:17] <MartijnVdS> That's his problem, not yours, right?
[15:18] <foobarry> he fell on me
[15:18] <foobarry> = my problem
[15:20] <MartijnVdS> but you survived!
[15:20] <foobarry> i did
[15:23] <dwatkins> perhaps it's a turnip
[15:23] <bigcalm> Wow, what a face
[15:25] <foobarry> reminds me of domoinique pignon
[15:36] <diddledan> hmmz, powercut
[15:50] <foobarry> its a tad windy
[15:52] <MartijnVdS> wind is picking up here as well
[15:56] <dwatkins> I was thinking of getting a UPS for my NAS, not sure the Synology supports USB-attached Smart-UPS.
[15:58] <foobarry> MartijnVdS: can ffmpeg rip audio from a dvd disk?
[16:01] <foobarry> trying dvd rip
[16:04] <dwatkins> there's always HandBrake - you can rip to MP4 and rip the audio from the video
[16:05] <dwatkins> ffmpeg will allow you to rip audio from an mp4, iirc.
[16:05] <dwatkins> not sure it'll let you rip straight from a vob file
[16:13] <foobarry> rhythmbox fails to allow me to play a file without having it in library such a UX fail
[16:26] <foobarry> got some funky results dwatkins so i'm trying handbrake
[16:26] <foobarry> unsure how to rip exclusively audio yet though
[16:41] <dwatkins> I tend to just rip to a known video format with HandBrake (m4a i.e. mp4) then rip the audio from that with ffmpeg, foobarry
[16:52] <foobarry> ta
[16:52] <foobarry> what a palaver :(
[16:59] <diddledan> about my powercut - why is it that I spend money on getting a decent ups that can maintain my network gear, but bt won't do the same for theirs meaning that my network is alive and kicking but unable to connect anywhere...
[16:59] <diddledan> I need an SLA :-p
[16:59] <diddledan> (btw the power came back)
[17:00] <diddledan> (hence my ability to speak)
[17:00] <dwatkins> who is your ISP, diddledan?
[17:00] <diddledan> sky
[17:00] <dwatkins> could be worse, I guess
[17:02] <diddledan> the annoying thing is bt are providing power to their POTS network but not the broadband network when there's an outage (my phone retained it's dialtone but the broadband died)
[17:04] <diddledan> when are the EU court of human rights going to force everyone in europe to agree that broadband is a basic human right?!
[17:04] <diddledan> (they did already I thought)
[17:04] <bigcalm> Finally getting around to listening to the latest uupc ep. Really pleased that my wedding was finally mentioned in the show :D Does anybody want to see popey being silly? ;)
[17:05] <AlanBell> me me me!
[17:05] <diddledan> \o/ for wedding announcements
[17:05] <diddledan> surely _everyone_ wants to see popey being silly. I thought that was a given.
[17:06] <bigcalm> AlanBell: I think I already gave you the link for Tony's photos. Here's the link to all non-professional photos (photo booth and table cameras): http://hayleyandiainaregettingmarried.com/photos/
[17:07] <AlanBell> ah yes, I thought this was new sillyness ;)
[17:09] <bigcalm> AlanBell: we got around to having the disposable cameras developed. 4 out of the 5 films were blank. And most of the rest were weird. But there is some fun to be had with them
[17:09] <bigcalm> I love the photo of popey with a jelly snake/worm
[17:19] <AlanBell> bigcalm: yeah, they are a bit weird! oh well
[17:19] <AlanBell> it was fun
[17:19] <bigcalm> AlanBell: did I give you the link to Tony's photos?
[17:21] <AlanBell> bigcalm: yes, they are great
[17:21] <bigcalm> Fab :)
[18:26] <Azelphur> holy crap, filtering is getting disgusting now, apparently childline is blocked on O2
[18:26] <Azelphur> so much for protecting the children
[18:27] <MartijnVdS> filtering is always ridiculous
[18:29] <Azelphur> I feel like calling my MP or something and asking how they justify that
[18:29] <Azelphur> that infuriates me
[18:35] <popey> Evening all
[18:35]  * Azelphur waves at popey
[18:35] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: You should, really
[18:36] <Azelphur> popey: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=popey this is you, right? :)
[18:36] <popey> yes
[18:36]  * Azelphur uprates \o/
[18:36] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: 2 clicks later: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x66E8F9EBB1A7A5100BC027F41E38DD6257A4363C
[18:36] <popey> well, i assume so
[18:36] <popey> looks like the transactions I made
[18:36] <popey> yup, that's me ☻
[18:36] <Azelphur> :)
[18:36] <popey> \o/ WoT
[18:38] <MartijnVdS> popey: Can't find key 57A4363C in the strong set
[18:39] <MartijnVdS> Mine is! http://pgp.cs.uu.nl/mk_path.cgi?STAT=3BBF130F&STATS=statistics
[18:39] <Azelphur> There we go, that should make it easier for you to trade :P
[18:48] <MartijnVdS> popey: next time we meet we should do the keysigning dance ;)
[18:54] <popey> thanks Azelphur
[18:54] <Azelphur> yw :)
[18:59] <Azelphur> Hmm, difficult decisions, Neptune pine will ship to me in Jan with tempered glass, or in March with "Tougher Glass"
[18:59] <Azelphur> don't wanna wait 2 months, don't want my glass to break xD
[19:06] <zleap> Azelphur, I didn't know they had pine trees on Neptune :D
[19:06]  * zleap ducks
[19:07] <Azelphur> hehe
[19:07] <Azelphur> gonna go with tempered, can fix it if it breaks I guess
[19:07] <zleap> maybe a better plan, but it should arrive in one piece,  they wrap these things up pretty well i think
[19:10] <diddledan> ergh power went off at 17:30 and it's still down
[19:10] <diddledan> I guess I can't cook any dinner
[19:30] <arc__> hello
[19:33] <arc__> when i install ubuntu server it comes to a blank screen after i put the server name in and my usb stops working
[19:35] <arc__> i think it may be the media
[19:38] <MartijnVdS> wheeee http://www.knmi.nl/actueel/images/windffgmt.png
[19:44] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: we had that earlier - my electricity is still down
[19:44] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: Then who was internet?!
[19:45] <diddledan> I'm using a laptop and mobile phone teathering
[19:47] <MartijnVdS> and a bicycle to make sure the batteries don't drain ;)
[19:50] <diddledan> :-)
[19:50] <diddledan> I've got 77 percentages left on my laptop
[20:44] <diplo> Evening all
[23:10] <diplo> 5 fence panels down! :/
[23:10] <diplo> whilst trying to shore one up a whole one blew over and hit me, jesus it is windy out there!
[23:21] <sebsebseb> hi
[23:21] <gordonjcp> diplo: ouch
[23:22] <diplo> :(
[23:22] <diplo> See how many I have left in the morning I guess
[23:33] <diplo> http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/ba14
[23:33] <diplo> 25mph pfft!
[23:57] <dwatkins> it's pretty windy up here just north of the imaginary border, but I expect that for Edinburgh.
[23:58] <gordonjcp> it's not particularly windy here just a few miles west
[23:58] <dwatkins> the Pentlands protect you from the weather, gordonjcp ;)
[23:59] <diplo> It's been awful here all day, flooding all over
[23:59] <gordonjcp> the Pentlands are well south-east of me
[23:59] <gordonjcp> although the Campsies break anything coming from the north


[00:13] <eletious> Hello everyone, it would appear as though I have done something stupid... or rather, have not done anything smart.
[00:13] <wxl> hahaha
[00:13] <eletious> I am using 13.04
[00:13] <wxl> well there's your problem right there ;)
[00:13] <eletious> Mistakes were made... people happened, and I forgot to update
[00:14] <Unit193> This'll be fun.
[00:14] <eletious> And then I remembered to update and very quickly realized that I have no idea how to.
[00:14] <Unit193> !eolupgrade
[00:14] <wxl> ooooo
[00:14] <eletious> Wow that was easy
[00:15]  * wxl golf claps
[00:15] <Unit193> Pretty soon after trusty was released, I had to upgrade somebody's computer that didn't.
[00:16] <Unit193> Actually, it's soon enough that the repos might still be where they normally are, for saucy.
[00:26] <eletious> I'm gonna go with a fresh install.  Back up my files, I'll see ya'llz later
[00:26] <Unit193> Where's the fun in that?
[08:45] <luke_> how do I make the keyboard layout stay to gb, every time I login it changes to us
[08:46] <luke_> I can run setxkbmap -layout 'gb' which will change it, but how do I make this persistent?
[08:46] <luke_> the file  /etc/default/keyboard looks ok
[09:06] <KaLu> hello
[09:22] <KaLu> i'm tritng to install lubuntu 14.04 on my PPC G4
[09:23] <KaLu> the problem is that the screen come in low depth resolution
[10:26] <onla> maybe someone else will help you, i'm not pro with linux, but I would google something like video card driver ubuntu
[10:27] <onla> find commands to check if your video card is detected
[10:28] <onla> there is also the preferences -  monitor settings
[21:13] <Murdock76> Cool I made it!  Hello all.
[21:14] <melodie> hullo!
[21:15] <Murdock76> I have a quick question.  Is anyone familiar with the Asus EEEPC 701 4G?  The Xandros operating system on it is freakishly outdated.  I did a web search on what would work on it, and Lubuntu came up.
[21:15] <Murdock76> Would the hardware support the latest distro of Lubuntu?
[21:15] <melodie> oh good!
[21:15] <melodie> no idea
[21:16] <holstein> i use it on a 900
[21:16] <melodie> Murdock76 I have installed a custom openbox branded spinoff on a eeepc but this was not the exact same version as your's I think
[21:16] <Murdock76> I tried Peppermint 4 initially.  Booted a Live USB.  It froze as I tried to run it.
[21:16] <melodie> do you want to see the feedback about it?
[21:16] <holstein> Murdock76: there are little better options for a full operating system than lubuntu
[21:16] <holstein> you can try puppy linux, and other faster options, but, they have tradeoffs
[21:16] <melodie> it was a eeepc C25 not idea if it's more powerfull or less than your's
[21:16] <melodie> it was quite tiny though
[21:17] <melodie> hello holstein !
[21:17] <melodie> have you tried Bento? Or read about it?
[21:18] <Murdock76> nope.  so far lubuntu and i think debian eee versions are what i've looked into since Peppermint was a fail.
[21:18] <Murdock76> i found a spec page on the 701
[21:18] <melodie> Ubuntu Openbox (Bento Village) on eeepc 1025c - http://forum.linuxvillage.org/index.php/topic,525.msg3334.html#msg3334
[21:18] <Murdock76> it has intel celeron M 353
[21:18] <Murdock76> 512MB of RAM
[21:19] <holstein> Murdock76: peppermint was likely a "Fail" due to something else
[21:19] <Murdock76> and a 4G solid state drive
[21:19] <melodie> Murdock76 can it take more ram if you do install more?
[21:19] <Murdock76> i believe the ram is upgradable
[21:19] <holstein> Murdock76: you'll need to learn to confirm md5 sums and get a bootable stick regardless of what it is
[21:19] <holstein> the ram is soldered in on the 701's
[21:19] <holstein> you can look and confirm...
[21:19] <Murdock76> the system on it now (Xandros
[21:19] <Murdock76> )
[21:19] <holstein> sure.. mine came with that
[21:20] <Murdock76> was great back in the day but is badly obsolete today
[21:20] <holstein> i wouldnt know.. i wiped it first thing
[21:20] <Murdock76> firefox version on it is like 3.6 XD
[21:20] <melodie> Murdock76 you might want to look at the features provided with Bento, and anyway you could try it as a live usb
[21:21] <Murdock76> i'm looking at the bottom now...it has an access door.
[21:21] <melodie> it is light on resource, used zram kernel module since the beginning and though not official works well nowadays on many machines. and will be kept up to date until 2017
[21:21] <melodie> http://linuxvillage.org/en/2013/11/bento-ubuntu-remix-rc/
[21:22] <Murdock76> oh no i voided the warrenty seal XD
[21:22] <melodie> Murdock76 it is of very little value I suppose? :)
[21:22] <Murdock76> hmm the sticker on the RAM chip reads 1GB DDR2
[21:23] <Murdock76> guess i have more RAM than i thought
[21:23] <melodie> yes!
[21:23] <melodie> 1 GB ram is great for Lubuntu as well as for Bento
[21:23] <Murdock76> and it does appear soldiered in
[21:23] <Murdock76> cool
[21:23] <Murdock76> i
[21:23] <melodie> bento idles at 100/130 MB according to what machine uses it
[21:23] <Murdock76> i'm biased toward Lubuntu cause i have Ubuntu on the machine i am chatting on now, and it's great!
[21:24] <melodie> is the cpu a 32bits or a 64bits cpu?
[21:24] <Murdock76> 32 i believe
[21:25] <Murdock76> i like that it's teeny but didn't cost over #1000
[21:25] <Murdock76> $1000*
[21:26] <Murdock76> battery winds down when not in use...only drawback of it to be honest
[21:26] <melodie> Murdock76 "cat /proc/cpuinfo" can provide all info about the cpu
[21:27] <melodie> sorry I don't get it about the battery and so (not English native... :/ )
[21:27] <holstein> Murdock76: try it live, just dont assume, as yo udid with peppermint, if you get a "lockup"
[21:27] <Murdock76> it sure does
[21:27] <Murdock76> celeron 900MHz
[21:27] <holstein> the battery support is typically never as good as when the company provides support officially
[21:28] <melodie> Murdock76 celeron 900 Mhz? I'd cry.
[21:29] <Murdock76> is there a bash command to find out hard drive space?
[21:29] <melodie> we have a tiny Samsung N210 it has a core duo in the chipset, takes 32 and 64bits and
[21:29] <melodie> yes Murdock76 "df -h"
[21:29] <melodie> or "df"
[21:29] <melodie> -h gives human readable output
[21:29] <Murdock76> well i do have a 10" Acer Netbook.  That took to Peppermint just dandy!
[21:29] <melodie> :)
[21:29] <Murdock76> Win 7 Starter was anooying me.
[21:30] <melodie> Murdock76 you might want to have a look at Bento, and try it out from usb live
[21:30] <holstein> my 900 is the celeron 900mhz
[21:30] <Murdock76> you think Bento would be better than Lubuntu?
[21:30] <melodie> there are also 2 other all made themes for it ready to go
[21:30] <melodie> Bento is not official Lubuntu is
[21:30] <holstein> Murdock76: "better" is always a matter of opinion
[21:30] <melodie> you try both and adopt which one you like :)
[21:31] <Murdock76> brb...battery is blinking on it.
[21:32] <melodie> Bento has been developped with a lot of care, and will continue to be that way, is stable, as a 12.04 built on LTS will be maintained as such (in the limits possible, never know what upstream will be up to, of course)
[21:32] <melodie> and Trusty will be done just after (started but not available yet)
[21:33] <Murdock76> wish i could remember how to check the HD space
[21:33] <Murdock76> i go to file manager but can only check the properties on My Home
[21:38] <Murdock76> Bento looks like a winner.
[21:38] <Murdock76> Thanks guys!
[21:39] <Murdock76> i gotta go for now.  have an appointment.
[21:39]  * Murdock76 waves.
[21:51] <Glorfindel> How do you connect to wifi in lubuntu? I tried network conections but it didn't conect
[21:51] <holstein> !wifi
[21:51] <holstein> Glorfindel: its probably a simple issue of needing firmware.. is it a broadcom device?
[21:53] <Glorfindel> I think it's an intel device
[21:54] <Glorfindel> on a dell laditude d820
[22:16] <ianorlin> Glorfindel: is this that you don't see nm-applet to connect to wifi?
[22:17] <Glorfindel> I don't think so. What is it/does it look like
[22:19] <holstein> Glorfindel: look down by the time, in the tray, and see if you see it there.. if not, your can open a terminal, and run "nm-applet" and see if it shows up.. you should check hardware switches as well
[22:20] <Glorfindel> Nope, no icon
[22:20] <Glorfindel> first thing I checked
[22:20] <holstein> Glorfindel: then, you can run it, with nm-applet?
[22:20] <Glorfindel> hw switches are on too
[22:20] <Glorfindel> and I haven't tried yet
[22:20] <Glorfindel> I is off, I'll brb
[22:20] <Glorfindel> *it
[22:21] <Glorfindel> to test it
[22:25] <DoverMo> just installed lxde, and polkit doen't let me use shutdown/reboot options within upower menu
[22:29] <Glorfindel> It worked for a little while, the icon showed anyway, but then it spewed a bunch of errors
[22:29] <Glorfindel> in the terminal
[22:29] <holstein> Glorfindel: messages, likely..
[22:30] <Glorfindel> ok
[22:30] <holstein> Glorfindel: you can set 'nm-applet' to autostart, or use "nm-applet &"
[22:30] <Glorfindel> the icon dissapeared afterward though
[22:30] <holstein> Glorfindel: it leaves when you close the terminal
[22:30] <Glorfindel> this was on a live cd
[22:31] <holstein> Glorfindel: sure... same on the live CD
[22:31] <Glorfindel> and it disappeared before the terminal was closed
[22:31] <holstein> Glorfindel: ok
[22:31] <holstein> Glorfindel: try the command i gave, or share error output, or just install and upgrade
[22:32] <Glorfindel> I copied the terminal output but the system stoped responding
[22:32] <Glorfindel> and I had to restart
[22:52] <DoverMo> still having trouble with lxde upower
[23:01] <DoverMo> ugh
[23:24] <Glorfindel> Maybe try google?
[23:24] <Glorfindel> if no one is on to help


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[01:23] <doko> kanashiro: what's the rationale for every no-change rebuild for dropping the old ruby version  picking up a dependency on the ruby-defaults in -proposed? that makes an awful amount of packages uninstallable and autopkg tests not being able to install packages, and failing with "unknown" versions.  this is no fun to work with
[01:48] <doko> vorlon, mwhudson: https://salsa.debian.org/toolchain-team/gcc/-/commit/d82fb8a8ab7b84f61fb8290a2c3aa2e3f54e7b8a
[01:48] <doko> that means that we are enforcing _FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 on armhf, but not on any other architecture. Still thinking about enforcing that for our 64bit archs as well. And unsure about i386
[01:48] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Commit d82fb8a in toolchain-team/gcc "* Pass -D_TIME_BITS=64 together with -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 by default"
[01:55] <mwhudson> doko: does  _FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 make any difference on our 64 bit arches?
[02:00] <doko> hmm, dpkg-buildflags doesn't pass this at all ...
[02:00] <doko> even not on i386
[02:05] <mwhudson> doko: as in its tests fail or it doesn't work?
[02:06] <doko> no, I just looked, if the flag is passed by dpkg-buildflags
[02:06] <doko> because on armhf, I have to define both flags, or else glibc raises an #error
[02:09] <mwhudson> oh i think i misparsed
[02:24] <mwhudson> i don't think we want to force the large file transition on i386 at this point do we?
[02:24] <mwhudson> afk for a bit, a bit more reachable on mm
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[08:23] <LocutusOfBorg> ubuntu-archive: please kick searx out from noble (Debian bug: #1051510). This will make flask migrate, with Python3.12 compatibility code
[08:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1051510 in src:searx "searx: SearX upstream is no longer maintained" [Serious, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/1051510
[09:33] <LocutusOfBorg> xnox, hello, can we please unblock boinc?
[09:33] <LocutusOfBorg> Not touching package as requested in bug 2051409 on Sat Jan 27 01:49:33 2024
[09:33] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Bug 2051409 in boinc (Ubuntu) "test file migrations" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2051409
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[10:16] <adrien> what happened to lamassemble? I see "New: accepted lamassemble [amd64] (noble-proposed) [1.7.0-2]" 12 days ago, and it was in the way of python migrating which is why I was tasked with fixing the issue but now it's not in excuses anymore and the only version I see on LP is the previous one
[10:17] <adrien> not that I complain it disappeared! the issue was more likely with the new lamassemble version that the new python version, but I'd like to understand
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[10:54] <ginggs> adrien: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lamassemble/+publishinghistory
[10:55] <ginggs> expand the entry for 1.7.0-2
[10:55] <ginggs>  Removed from disk on 2024-02-19.
[10:55] <ginggs> Removal requested on 2024-02-19.
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[11:06] <adrien> ginggs: thanks! I feel stupid, I remember publishinghistory was mentioned just a few days ago but my brain didn't link everything together /o\
[11:07] <adrien> doko: thanks for removing lamassemble :)
[12:22] <ahasenack> ubuntu-archive: hi, when someone as a moment, could you please complete the glusterfs demotion to universe? It's showing up in component mismatches already, as a "source and binary movements to universe"
[12:22] <ahasenack> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glusterfs/+bug/2045063 is the demotion bug
[12:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2045063 in glusterfs (Ubuntu) "Demote glusterfs for noble" [High, In Progress]
[12:23] <ahasenack> I thought it would happen automatically, maybe I'm wrong, or maybe there is something else keeping it in main that I haven't spotted
[12:24] <ahasenack> it will also move bin:qemu-block-supplemental and bin:samba-vfs-modules-extra to universe, that's expected
[12:24] <ahasenack> they are also showing up in the report as binary-only moves to universe
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[13:24] <LocutusOfBorg> ubuntu-archive: please kick searx out from noble (Debian bug: #1051510). This will make flask migrate, with Python3.12 compatibility code
[13:24] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1051510 in src:searx "searx: SearX upstream is no longer maintained" [Serious, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/1051510
[13:24] <LocutusOfBorg> also fava bug: #1031724
[13:30] <athos> Oh... thx LocutusOfBorg. I did not know about that - I do use fava :(
[13:31] <LocutusOfBorg> athos, there is however an upstream new release
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[13:34] <LocutusOfBorg> if you want to create an NMU... I'm happy to sponsor
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[13:44] <bdrung> rbasak, can you accept the tzdata SRUs please?
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[14:13] <arraybolt3> Any news on the casper front today? If not, I'm going to assume the SRU isn't happening in time for the release and will start doing testing accordingly.
[14:27] <athos> LocutusOfBorg: thanks! I will have a look on the weekend. It seems there is a lot of JS components which need to be packaged though :(
[14:28] <athos> I will assess it and reach out for sponsorship as needed :)
[15:23] <tsimonq2> ubuntu-sru, dviererbe: Hello! Was someone at Canonical working on testing this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1990621
[15:23] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 1990621 in casper (Ubuntu Jammy) "[SRU] PXE Boot contains wrong suggested link to ISO for live file system" [Low, Fix Committed]
[15:24] <tsimonq2> To my understanding, this was planned for .4. Could someone please clarify?
[15:25] <tsimonq2> (arraybolt3 was asking above, just some proactivity for any potential respins. Thanks for your persistence!)
[15:28] <dviererbe> tsimonq2: I have this in my backlog. I tested the code outside of casper, but to be honest I still have to figure out how to trigger the code path within casper as I am not familiar with casper.
[15:30] <tsimonq2> dviererbe: Is there Interest in getting this to .4, to your understanding?
[15:30] <arraybolt3> I think we're close enough to release it may be best to just let this slide - we're going to go from having 8 testcases left in Lubuntu to having 18 testcases left if a respin is done (not to mention the effects on all the other flavors), and while that would have been easy if this had happened yesterday, it'll be hard if done today and very hard/impossible if done tomorrow.
[15:31] <arraybolt3> Maybe we can just skip it this cycle and try again next year or so?
[15:32] <dviererbe> Fine with me. It's a low importance bug.
[15:38] <tsimonq2> Sounds good. Thanks for the input!
[15:49] <sgmoore> Hello. I am told to ping ubuntu-release in regards to my 22.04.4 ISO being to big. Please forgive my newbness as I am the new Lead dev/ Release manager for Kubuntu and I fear hacking bits and pieces out of the image the day before release is a bad idea especially since I wasn't about when it released. Can we get an increase for this one and I promise to remove the bloat this upcoming LTS? Thanks for any assistance.
[15:52] <Eickmeyer> sgmoore: Not release team, but fellow flavor lead. Honestly, you shouldn't be afraid to ask for a size increase because applications and the kernel itself simply increase in size. In 22.04.4's case, it's likely just the kernel as I doubt the Kubuntu seed has changed since 22.04.3, so don't worry too much about asking for a size increase. :)
[15:53] <sgmoore> :)
[16:17] <bdrung> ahasenack, can you accept the tzdata SRUs please (on your shift tomorrow)?
[16:27] <tsimonq2> ah yes Qt looks blocked on a single autopkgtest at the back of the s390x queue now...
[16:39] <tsimonq2> hello nodejs
[16:54]  * LocutusOfBorg nodejs helloes back tsimonq2
[17:04] <tsimonq2> :D
[17:29] <tsimonq2> maliit-framework makes glib2.0 and Qt be entangled :/
[17:34] <ahasenack> bdrung: I will look for sure
[17:35] <bdrung> thanks
[17:47] <tsimonq2> hi new Lintian :)
[18:11] <sgmoore> Hi all, I am having quite a few autopackage ( excuses ) tests falling over due to container failures<EMAIL_ADDRESS>) is there someone I can poke to fix or point me to what to do?
[18:12] <tsimonq2> qa-help: ^^^
[18:17] <ginggs> tsimonq2: i think qa-help is over in # ubuntu-quality
[18:19] <tsimonq2> ginggs: ohh? TIL, thanks :)
[18:20] <UnivrslSuprBox> tsimonq2: if you ever need someone to shout at a maliit developer, I can help
[18:20] <tsimonq2> UnivrslSuprBox: Sounds good! although there's not much they could do, it's a Britney thing :)
[18:24] <Skia> sgmoore: I've ping bdmurray, since I'm off
[18:45] <bdmurray> sgmoore: I heard somebody else complaing about ppc64el their tests were on a different host though...
[18:49] <bdmurray> I've pinged IS
[18:50] <bdmurray> sgmoore: wrt to size bumps we'd prefer the flavour lead suggest a number rather than just ask for an increase that we have to guess at
[18:51] <ricotz> ahasenack, hello :), I am hoping you can take a look libreoffice/mantic tomorrow
[18:52] <ahasenack> ricotz: me too :)
[18:52] <ricotz> :)
[19:23] <bdmurray> sgmoore: you can see the current size limit here https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/tree/lib/cdimage/tree.py?id=e0361427a783d6d025fc0390b3ff187766edd204#n1941
[19:33] <ahasenack> bdrung: bdmurray fixed autopkgtests, and now the jupyter ones are using the right version
[19:33] <ahasenack> we are just missing the unixsocket trigger I think. I triggered some, but there are many in the queue and I'm a bit lost, I think I will let it settle first, before restarting rerun attempts
[19:58] <ahasenack> ok, getting some greens finally on jupyter-notebook...
[20:00] <ahasenack> ohh, we are close
[21:15] <kanashiro> ubuntu-archive: I'd like some opinion about this issue with vagrant and some license change, it is currently blocking the ruby transition: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vagrant/+bug/2054608
[21:15] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2054608 in vagrant (Ubuntu) "License change and unmaintanability" [Undecided, New]
[23:53] <doko> kanashiro: please could you file a removal bug for redmine (removed in testing), including analysis of the rdeps?


[11:59] <kuku_> Hi! Since I am no Chinese I better install UKUI on Ubuntu MATE 17.04 with the ppa:ubuntukylin-members/ukui. ?
[12:01] <kuku_> I assume that Kylin has plenty of packages with no use for me, so English MATE + PPA will result in the same Windows-look?