[10:11] <danikata> hi all
[10:11] <giggsey> I am installing bmp and ive got:
[10:11] <Choubaka> as cdrw points to hdc :)
[10:11] <danikata> may i ask
[10:11] <giggsey> checking for X... no
[10:11] <giggsey> configure: error: Cannot find X11 headers/libraries
[10:11] <giggsey> on configure
[10:11] <Choubaka> yahalom: so define a section for /dev/cdrom1 too :)
[10:12] <yahalom> Choubaka, ok so hdd not burner cdrw burned how should i mark them?
[10:12] <danba> giggsey: beep-media-player?
[10:12] <giggsey> yes
[10:12] <danikata> i have add static ip in mcc, but i think i doesnt work
[10:12] <yahalom> Choubaka, so add /dev/cdrom1?
[10:12] <Choubaka> yes.
[10:12] <iceman2K> wow extracting a file and peeking my cpu ..
[10:12] <danba> ok, well, do try sudo aptitude install beep-media-player
[10:12] <Choubaka> abd just enable dma on it too.
[10:12] <giggsey> kk
[10:12] <Choubaka> and*
[10:12] <danikata> is there any method to change ip address ?
[10:13] <danba> sudo aptitude install anythingPrettyMuchExceptReallyRarely
[10:13] <yahalom> Choubaka, ok i get it cdrom is the writer
[10:13] <Echelon-H> bah, xchat is not saving my configuration in server list :(
[10:13] <jdizzle> ok so i installed realplayer 10 and it doesnt work
[10:13] <danba> jdizzle in da hizzle...
[10:13] <jdizzle> hehe
[10:13] <yahalom> Choubaka, so just copy it and add it underneath cdrom and change name to cdrom1 right?
[10:13] <danba> why, jdizzle? why realplayer?
[10:13] <Seveas> giggsey, what are you compiling?
[10:14] <danba> beepmediaplayer
[10:14] <Seveas> hmm
[10:14] <Seveas> beep-media-player is in the repositories!
[10:14] <yahalom> Choubaka, /dev/cdrom1 {
[10:14] <yahalom>        dma = on ?
[10:14] <danba> do you have nme on ignore half the time, seveas?
[10:14] <giggsey> ive installed it now
[10:14] <jdizzle> danba: b/c realplayer is required for streaming video by a lot of sites online
[10:14] <Seveas> danba, no
[10:15] <danba> Seveas: I know what it is, I severely rarely put ppls nicks in front, when I am tired.
[10:15] <Choubaka> yahalom: you need the closing bracket too
[10:15] <Seveas> hmm, i must read more carufully, missed your lines danba
[10:15] <Seveas> sorry
[10:15] <Choubaka> otherwise that's correct
[10:15] <yahalom> Choubaka, its there, tried to save space in the chan
[10:15] <danba> thats cool:)
[10:15] <Choubaka> yahalom: ok.
[10:15] <danba> I didnt smile that time, tho, too tired.
[10:15] <yahalom> Choubaka, thanx a ton man. very very helpful
[10:15] <giggsey> :(
[10:15] <yahalom> Choubaka, be well
[10:15] <Echelon-H> yahalom, sup :)?
[10:15] <giggsey> right, now ive got to work out how to get it playing wma
[10:15] <jeff25> using backports will cause dist-upgrade to fail later?
[10:15] <jdizzle> any1 here successfully install realplayer?
[10:16] <yahalom> Echelon-H,
[10:16] <BeTa> hi,
[10:16] <Echelon-H> BeTa, hi
[10:16] <BeTa> how can I add icons to the Gnome 2.10 menus ?
[10:16] <Choubaka> What language was that yahalom just spoke? :|
[10:16] <danba> hebrew
[10:16] <Jormundgand> Hebrew.
[10:16] <Seveas> BeTa, art.gnome.org/faq.php :)
[10:16] <Choubaka> right.
[10:17] <BeTa> w/ warty (Gnome 2.8 ?) a right click on a menu was great :c)
[10:17] <Choubaka> I guess it was UTF-8
[10:17] <BeTa> let(s read ;c)
[10:17] <Echelon-H> hehe... he said I'll be back in a second if anyone cares :P
[10:17] <Seveas> BeTa, ah you want to add menu entries?
[10:17] <Seveas> BeTa, www.realistanew.com, search for smeg
[10:17] <yahalom> Choubaka, still not loggin in :(
[10:17] <danba> seveas, BeTa, as well, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38183&highlight=smeg .
[10:17] <Jormundgand> Echelon-H: Care to transliterate so those of us stuck with the poor Latin alphabet can read it?
[10:18] <Choubaka> yahalom: ok so hm. you need to restart hdparm
[10:18] <dmoyne> I have a problem with CUPS as I can no more access the CUPS server ! ; can somebody help ?
[10:18] <Choubaka> sudo /etc/init.d/hdparm restart
[10:18] <Seveas> Jormundgand, dpkg-reconfigure locales and enable UTF-8 ;)
[10:18] <danba> BeTa: you need to first install the  PyXDG dev for hoary and breezy users , then the  deb file for hoary and breezy user .
[10:18] <bob2> dmoyne: what dod you change since it last worked?
[10:18] <Echelon-H> Jormundgand, I think I already did :P
[10:18] <yahalom> Choubaka, ok :)
[10:18] <selavagh> Heya :)
[10:18] <Jormundgand> Seveas: I saw the Hebrew fine, just can't read the alphabet.
[10:18] <Echelon-H> Uuh, what's NFS?
[10:19] <Seveas> ah ;)
[10:19] <Jormundgand> Echelon-H: Transliterate != translate
[10:19] <Echelon-H> Jormundgand, aha.
[10:19] <benplaut> yahalom: atah meveen eevreet?
[10:19] <BeTa> there is no native way to add an icon to a menu, like in warty ?
[10:19] <benplaut> (no hebrew keyboard)
[10:19] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: network filesystem.
[10:19] <Echelon-H> benplaut, shalom!
[10:19] <benplaut> Echelon-H: gahm atah?
[10:19] <Echelon-H> Choubaka, I see. can I share files with win computer with this?
[10:19] <giggsey> checking for bmp >= 0.9.7... Package bmp was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[10:19] <giggsey> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `bmp.pc'
[10:19] <giggsey> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[10:19] <giggsey> No package 'bmp' found
[10:19] <giggsey> configure: error: BMP >= 0.9.7 development package not installed
[10:19] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: no.
[10:19] <Echelon-H> benplaut, yeah, but you better speak english here.
[10:19] <Choubaka> you need samba.
[10:19] <giggsey> when trying bmp-wma
[10:20] <Echelon-H> Choubaka, so it's only for linux comps?
[10:20] <Seveas> giggsey, sudo apt-get install beep-medaia-player
[10:20] <giggsey> ive got the player
[10:20] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: yes.
[10:20] <giggsey> i need the wma plugin
[10:20] <giggsey> which ive downloaded
[10:20] <benplaut> i only speak a bit on hebrew, so no problem there (more understand)
[10:20] <Choubaka> giggsey: you need the -dev files.
[10:20] <danba> giggsey: please use http://pastebin.com for pasting.
[10:20] <Echelon-H> Choubaka, ok, thanks.
[10:20] <dmoyne> bob2, I do not know exactlty but I think I messed up in changing CUPS server name !!!!
[10:20] <danba> or an equivalent
[10:20] <Seveas> giggsey, sudo apt-get install beep-medaia-player-dev
[10:20] <Seveas> :)
[10:20] <giggsey> kk
[10:20] <Choubaka> media :P
[10:20] <giggsey> will pastebin next time
[10:20] <danba> Seveas: please use aptitude:)
[10:20] <Seveas> hmm, typo :)
[10:20] <danba> jj.
[10:20] <selavagh> would it be good to do a reinstall of Ubuntu, as i found out it is quite fast, so to install LVM?
[10:21] <benplaut> geggsey: watch the ?typo?: "apt-get install beep-media-player-dev"
[10:21] <Seveas> danba, i use aptitude on my system, but am soo damn used to apt-get that i had to alias apt-get to aptitude :)
[10:21] <giggsey> i know
[10:21] <giggsey> its downloading the files
[10:21] <Choubaka> Seveas: :DD
[10:21] <Echelon-H> Jormundgand, what's transliterate :P?
[10:21] <danba> nice idea, I think I may have to do that...not, really, better to learn.
[10:21] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: translate from one script to another
[10:22] <Echelon-H> Choubaka, which means O_o?
[10:22] <jdizzle> any1 install realplayer 10 on hoary?
[10:22] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: like from hebrew letters to roman letters
[10:22] <ubermonzie> hi all
[10:22] <Choubaka> or chinese kanji to roman letters.
[10:22] <Choubaka> or roman letters to chinese -_-
[10:22] <dhimass_sby> hi all
[10:22] <Echelon-H> Oh
[10:22] <rj`>
[10:22] <yahalom> Choubaka, still not. i even rebooted
[10:22] <dmoyne> bob2, any idea to reset CUPS ?
[10:22] <danba> jdizzle: read point 10 http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats .
[10:22] <Echelon-H> Jormundgand, Ahzor Beshnia.
[10:22] <dhimass_sby> anybody can help me
[10:22] <danba> I agree.
[10:22] <Choubaka> yahalom: I guess it's something else then :/
[10:22] <Echelon-H> Jormundgand, if you're still intrested ;)
[10:23] <Choubaka> Weird.
[10:23] <nern> hey there
[10:23] <jeff25> hoary-extras-staging is probably not a good idea to use.  Every package has a dep on gcc4.0 heh
[10:23] <japoeder> does anyone have any suggestions for dvd playback.  I tried the method in the unofficial guide but apparently the libdvdcss2 file is no longer available
[10:23] <dhimass_sby> anybody can help me
[10:23] <thoreauputic> dhimass_sby: don't ask to ask, just ask
[10:23] <jdizzle> ty
[10:23] <Echelon-H> japoeder, try vlc player?
[10:23] <dhimass_sby> ok thanks
[10:23] <Dalkus> "Warning: could not grab  your mouse, a malicious client may be monitering you screen" What do I do when I get that?
[10:23] <jeff25> japoeder: libdvdcss2 is on backports
[10:23] <japoeder> where do I get vlc player
[10:23] <Echelon-H> japoeder, if something is not playing on vlc, it will never play.
[10:23] <danba> thoreauputic: hey, I liked how he said that anyone can help him, though...
[10:24] <dhimass_sby> how to clone my ubuntu disk?
[10:24] <dmoyne> I can no more install printers with CUPS any idea to solve the problem ?
[10:24] <thoreauputic> danba: heh - this remains to be seen however ;)
[10:24] <danba> !restricted japoeder
[10:24] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, danba
[10:24] <danba> japoeder: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats .
[10:24] <Echelon-H> japoeder, sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:24] <yahalom> Choubaka, in /etc/hdparm.conf is it meant to be: # -q be quiet
[10:24] <yahalom> quiet
[10:24] <japoeder> thanks
[10:25] <Choubaka> yahalom: hehh, yeah -_-
[10:25] <Echelon-H> anyone here maybe knows of a hardware support channel on IRC?
[10:25] <yahalom> Choubaka, man what could it be? nothing in hdparm?
[10:25] <Choubaka> possibly.
[10:25] <yahalom> Choubaka,can u check my hdparm plz?
[10:25] <dhimass_sby> anyone have idea, how to clone my ubuntu disk? as backup
[10:26] <Echelon-H> dhimass_sby, re-burn it? or download the iso again?
[10:26] <Choubaka> yahalom: paste hdparm -i /dev/hda to pastebin
[10:26] <Dalkus> Echelon-H, maybe he got the packaged CD
[10:26] <Choubaka> and are you sure hda is your hard disk? :P
[10:26] <yahalom> Choubaka, yes
[10:26] <Choubaka> ok.
[10:27] <dhimass_sby> up-s sorry , i mean my harddisk
[10:27] <dhimass_sby> with ubuntu inside
[10:27] <jdizzle> whats best media player for hoary release (that plays like mp3 and mpeg files)
[10:27] <nern> totem
[10:28] <Dalkus> xine, mplayer are far better than totem, I find
[10:28] <Choubaka> mplayer crashes my computer -_-
[10:28] <espiem> hello
[10:28] <Echelon-H> vlc player can play everything.
[10:28] <ubermonzie> vlc is good
[10:28] <ubermonzie> xine is my fave
[10:28] <jdizzle> anything similar to winamp?
[10:28] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: not vmw
[10:28] <ubermonzie> runs without troubles
[10:28] <yahalom> Choubaka, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/292544
[10:28] <Choubaka> jdizzle: xmms
[10:28] <dhimass_sby> but in xine, crashes my comp too
[10:28] <espiem> please anybody tell me how to install splash screen?
[10:28] <Dalkus> xmms is a clone of winamp
[10:28] <ubermonzie> gxine is not stable though
[10:28] <Dalkus> and also beep-media-player, is also a clone
[10:28] <ubermonzie> xmms is good for mp3 too
[10:29] <BeTa> aahaha !! I've found !! to add or remove items from gnome menus, you have to the "system tools" menu and launch "Add/Remove programs" or somthing like that (I'm using an internationalized gnome)
[10:29] <jeff25> totem sucks
[10:29] <Choubaka> yahalom: it's missing the closing bracket.
[10:29] <dhimass_sby> up-s sorry , i mean to clone my harddisk with ubuntu inside
[10:29] <BeTa> totem sucks... in fact... does someone here can read multimedia files w/ totem ? it is crashing everytimes here !!
[10:29] <Choubaka> yahalom: and you only have a section for /dev/cdrom
[10:29] <thoreauputic> bet0x: umm - that removes the program, not just the menu entry
[10:30] <ubermonzie> totem doesnt work in ununtu
[10:30] <BeTa> all right
[10:30] <Choubaka> it doesn't?
[10:30] <danba> jdizzle: normally, I think, one uses a music, and a separate video player...some people prefer this or that one, but enabling all repositories, and searching synaptic for player under name and description may give you a list of all of them. You can try and decide for yourself.
[10:30] <Choubaka> ubermonzie: why?
[10:30] <ubermonzie> in Debian Sarge, totem works like a gem
[10:30] <yahalom> Choubaka, sorry that wasnt all of it: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/292545
[10:30] <Burgundavia> jeff25, ubermonzie there is known problem with totem-gstreamer and ATI drivers
[10:30] <yahalom> Choubaka, go to the next one
[10:30] <espiem> please. anybody knows how to replace default splash screen in ubuntu?
[10:30] <Choubaka> yahalom: oh, looks cool
[10:30] <Burgundavia> jeff25, ubermonzie install totem-xine, works like a charm
[10:30] <Choubaka> it's fine.
[10:30] <thoreauputic> BeTa: install totem-xine
[10:30] <BeTa> that's sad to know that all multimedia files are launched w/ totem !! and that totem crash everytime
[10:30] <dhimass_sby> hallo , i mean to clone my harddisk with ubuntu inside
[10:30] <BeTa> all right
[10:30] <yahalom> Choubaka, so nothing there huh?
[10:31] <ubermonzie> will try it Burgundavia, thanks
[10:31] <BeTa> thx thoreauputic
[10:31] <poofyhair> hi
[10:31] <joan_> algun espaol??
[10:31] <Choubaka> yahalom: yes, it's fine :p
[10:31] <yahalom> Choubaka, so what can i do?
[10:31] <jeff25> Burgundavia: I compile xine from cvs
[10:31] <yahalom> Choubaka, anyway of totally cleaning gnome and reinstalling it? kde and xfce work great, so i dont get it
[10:31] <danba> espiem: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q8 does know that
[10:31] <giggsey> w00t, got my Rammstein album working at last ;P
[10:31] <danba> !es
[10:32] <Choubaka> yahalom: I guess it's a gnome problem then :|
[10:32] <espiem> thanks danba
[10:32] <Choubaka> I use XFCE4. :/
[10:32] <yahalom> Choubaka, how do i remove gnome and reinstall it?
[10:32] <Choubaka> hmm.
[10:32] <dmoyne> please do you have this file in your system "/etc/cups/cupsd.conf" I do not !
[10:32] <Choubaka> I don't remember all the packages.
[10:32] <yahalom> Choubaka, me too, my wife likes gnome though
[10:32] <danba> nice..., joan_, Para los usuarios debian de habla hispa?a que requieren la ayuda, ensamble por favor el canal del #ubuntu-es
[10:32] <nern> we i had to reinstall
[10:33] <yahalom> Choubaka, ok man thanx :) hey isnt cdrom1 meant to show up in xffm now?
[10:33] <danba> ok, first time using that one...
[10:33] <jdizzle> there a program that will run streaming video for hoary like Windows media
[10:33] <yahalom> Choubaka, i only have cdrom0 showing up in xffm
[10:33] <Choubaka> you probably don't have cdrom1 in /etc/fstab
[10:33] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: yes, i have it (the file)
[10:33] <Choubaka> edit the file
[10:33] <Choubaka> just copy the /dev/cdrom entry and rename the device file
[10:34] <dmoyne> thoreauputic, which package is it part of ?
[10:34] <selavagh> would it be good to do a reinstall of Ubuntu, as i found out it is quite fast, so to install LVM?
[10:34] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: I assume it comes with cups
[10:34] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: hang on a sec
[10:34] <dmoyne> thoreauputic, thanks
[10:34] <yahalom> Choubaka, udf,iso9660 ro,user,noatio  this is for a cdwriter, what is for a plain one?
[10:35] <Choubaka> yahalom: probably the same.
[10:35] <Fator_Dee> jdizzle: mplayer, xine, vlc and others
[10:35] <yahalom> Choubaka, ok thanx man
[10:35] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: peter@prospero:~$ dpkg -S /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[10:35] <thoreauputic> cupsys: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[10:35] <Choubaka> possibly no udf
[10:35] <nern> SO
[10:35] <Choubaka> but I don't really know :)
[10:35] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: so, cupsys
[10:35] <Echelon-H> Choubaka, Don;t you need to spell it Chewbacca?
[10:35] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: no.
[10:35] <nern> whenever Breezy gets released will it be possible to simply edit sources.list and dist-upgrade? I mean, did that work with Warty to Hoary?
[10:35] <Choubaka> My nick isn't even pronounced like that.
[10:36] <Choubaka> :D
[10:36] <jeff25> blackbox deb is broken on main
[10:36] <Echelon-H> Choubaka, k :P
[10:36] <danba> jdizzle: unfortunately, it does not always work, this is a walkthrough for setting up MPlayer for that, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer .
[10:36] <Choubaka> I always get the chewbacca jokes. :(
[10:36] <danba> jdizzle: do you have a good sources.list file?
[10:36] <Fator_Dee> nern: it worked with hoary, and I think it will work with breezy too
[10:36] <dmoyne> thoreauputic, I have cupsys installed though and not this file
[10:37] <nern> Fator_Dee: good, that means that this is officially the greatest distro ever :)
[10:37] <Fator_Dee> nern: yep :-)
[10:37] <japoeder> is there a reason why someone would not be able to access the backports repository?
[10:37] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: well, that's odd
[10:37] <danba> jdizzle: also, that is provided you use a 386 kernel, to find out which one you are using, type in uname -r in a terminal
[10:37] <nern> japoeder: the ubuntu forums one?
[10:37] <japoeder> yeah
[10:37] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: you aren't using breezy, are you?
[10:38] <jdizzle> danba: i know which version, and its a 386
[10:38] <danba> nern, always remove all but main repositories before upgrading a version, I believe.
[10:38] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, what do you mean by "breazy" ?
[10:38] <dhimass_sby> how to clone my harddisk with ubuntu inside
[10:38] <Choubaka> dhimass_sby: hm
[10:38] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: what does ` cat /etc/issue` return on your machine?
[10:38] <Choubaka> dhimass_sby: do you want to clone it into a file?
[10:38] <danba> good, then follow that, if you have good sources.list(/etc/apt/sources.list) this is a good one : www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list ...
[10:38] <Choubaka> or to another hd?
[10:39] <dhimass_sby> to onother
[10:39] <dhimass_sby> to another
[10:39] <dhimass_sby> disk
[10:39] <Choubaka> ok, that's more difficult.
[10:39] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic : "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l
[10:39] <japoeder> I get this message when I try to upload it http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 403 Forbidden
[10:39] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: OK
[10:39] <Choubaka> dhimass_sby: in fact, I don't know how to do it :/
[10:39] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: breezy is the development version
[10:39] <Choubaka> I guess you need cpio or something
[10:39] <nern> japoeder - here are the repos to use if you want the backports; like i do ;)
[10:39] <dhimass_sby> ok
[10:40] <nern> japoeder - http://pastebin.ca/13009
[10:40] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, what can I do to reset all this ?
[10:40] <dhimass_sby> thanx
[10:40] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: Hoary is the current stable release: try running ` sudo apt-get install --reinstall cupsys`
[10:40] <japoeder> thanks
[10:41] <danba> japoeder: nern, do not use backports like that, use them as a repository that is always commented out, except when you are looking for a specific program, am I right here?
[10:41] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: or ` sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys` if that doesn't help
[10:41] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, ok I do and keep you posted !
[10:41] <thoreauputic> danba: better still, don't use backports at all
[10:41] <my_haz> how do i find the use of bandwidth using the command line
[10:42] <my_haz> link the bandwidth thing in top right of gnome window manager
[10:42] <my_haz> and how do i do an update of apts using the command line, like the read button on top in right of gnome
[10:42] <Shufla> hi :D
[10:42] <danba> well, thoreauputic not sure about that... maybe they have a reason, perhaps, maybe better than some other options, although, yeah, I mean, I have not had them in there since I screwe up my first Hoary upgrade : )
[10:43] <iamnow> hello
[10:43] <thoreauputic> danba: i think th ebackports maintainers are on crack, frankly
[10:43] <iamnow> does the nautilus cd burner work with wav file to cd audio?
[10:43] <danba> ok, I am gonna believe you cause you know more.
[10:43] <Shufla> funny. i've got amd64 with 64bit hoary. and while trying to print with oowriter there's message in console: sh: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib32/libpangohack.so.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:43] <Shufla> and my system won't print :(
[10:44] <my_haz> Shufla: do you have that so file?
[10:44] <my_haz> Shufla: you might have a later/newer version
[10:44] <thoreauputic> iamnow: no, install gnomebaker
[10:44] <Shufla> my_haz: no. i know where it is. but my system is 32bit...
[10:44] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, after doing all these commands successfully I stil do not get "cupsd.conf" in /etc/cups" ! ; I try to install printers
[10:44] <iamnow> thoreauputic: ok thanks
[10:44] <my_haz> Shufla: so how about a ln
[10:44] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: very weird
[10:45] <Shufla> my_haz: not ubuntu-friendly. well. i've got package with that file (ia32-libs-gtk), but that file do not exist :D
[10:45] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, it does not work !
[10:46] <Shufla> ok. i'll just reinstall it
[10:46] <my_haz> ya do that
[10:46] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: I can maybe paste a copy of mine for you on pastebin.ubuntu.com (no guarantees that will work for you -)
[10:46] <jeff25> rot-tail owns
[10:47] <Shufla> but... it has disappered. that's not nice :/
[10:47] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, with synaptic I have both Ubuntu and Debian repositries install ; maybe I can try to paste this file first !
[10:47] <danba> my_haz: sudo aptitude upgrade for command line red applet in gnome-panel .
[10:47] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: oh dear - you should *not* do that
[10:47] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: you have conflicts because your sources are mixed
[10:48] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, then what can I do to clean !
[10:48] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: do *not* use debian sources with ubuntu : it's a recipe for disaster
[10:48] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, yes but at the very beginning it was the only way to get KDE
[10:49] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: clean up your /etc/apt/sources.list and do an apt-get update && apt-get dist upgrade, and pray a lot
[10:49] <thoreauputic> get rid of those debian sources
[10:49] <danba> my_haz: as for bandwidth, http://pastebin.com/292551 not sure if that is what you want, though.
[10:49] <Shufla> ooooooops! that file exist /usr/lib32/libpangohack.so.0.0, but oowriter says: sh: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib32/libpangohack.so.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:50] <Shufla> i run ldconfig...
[10:50] <mrzac> I installed the xorg-driver-fglrx for my ati card but it doesn't work. how do I make it work?
[10:50] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, I typically use synaptic ; I will go to this graphical app and do it and report afterrwards ; thanks
[10:50] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: good luck
[10:51] <Shufla>
[10:51] <syntaxman> I'm hunting around on the documentation web site, and don't see anything about source.list entries
[10:52] <danba> btw, does mttscorefonts get rid of the sign I am seeing instead of Shufla's last message?
[10:53] <thoreauputic> syntaxman: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:53] <Shufla> danba: it was leftalt+control+r with accitentaly enter :D
[10:53] <Fikrann> danba, no, since it wasn't UTF-8 character.
[10:54] <danba> yeah, I have those installed anyhow, it turns out.
[10:54] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, editing my  /etc/apt/sources.list shows only thes 2 lines :
[10:54] <prasys> bbl
[10:54] <dmoyne> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:54] <dmoyne> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe multiverse
[10:55] <syntaxman> thoreauputic: thank you.
[10:55] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: you only have main and security there
[10:56] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, what do I need ?
[10:56] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: read the url I posted for syntaxman
[10:56] <danba> well, he has universe, multiverse as well, and restricted:)
[10:56] <thoreauputic> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:56] <Shufla> fck. i'm so lagged :(
[10:57] <thoreauputic> danba: no, only for security
[10:57] <thoreauputic> hoary-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:57] <Seveas> thoreauputic, ehm, read please :)
[10:57] <thoreauputic> oops
[10:57] <Seveas> the line below :)
[10:57] <thoreauputic> sorry my bad
[10:57] <Seveas> ;)
[10:57] <danba> thats cool, we'll lynch you after.
[10:57] <Seveas> hehe
[10:57] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, how do I access this URL for syntaxman
[10:57] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:58] <banana> how can i start fx in safe mode?
[10:58] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: I was wrong- your sources look OK
[10:58] <banana> does anybody get a bloated context menu (the menu you get when you click on your secondary mouse button) in Fx?
[10:58] <mrzac> I installed the xorg-driver-fglrx for my ati card but it doesn't work. how do I make it work?
[10:58] <palmstrom> Hello, I have some problem with apt. I installed package totem-xine (it removed totem-gstreamer). Package totem depends on totem-gstreamer or totem-xine. Automatic update on startup wants install totem-gstreamer and remove totem-xine. How can I tell apt to not install totem-gstreamer at all?
[10:58] <Seveas> mrzac: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:59] <banana> Bloated means, for example, getting options for hyperlinks even when you haven't 2ndary-button-clicked on a hyperlink.
[11:00] <danba> thoreauputic: no, they dont really, altho, they kinda do, try the ones here, I mean,...http://www.mts.net/~danb/sources.list
[11:00] <danba> banana: sorry for being dumb, what is fx?
[11:00] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, so then it is relly odd as everybody has this file "cupsd.conf" in /etc/cups" ! !
[11:00] <JaneW> http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html
[11:00] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: it is, very odd
[11:01] <banana> danba, firefox. that's what the makers suggest as the nickname.
[11:01] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: you could try purging cupsys and reinstalling it I guess
[11:01] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, how you do this with apt commands !
[11:01] <danba> banana: thank you.
[11:01] <Seveas> JaneW, wow!
[11:02] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: sudo apt-get remove --purge cupsys && sudo apt-get install cupsys
[11:02] <Seveas> JaneW, that's a great initiative :)
[11:02] <mrzac> seveas: thanks
[11:02] <danba> yeah, not bad, I must say I wil definitely consider applying.
[11:02] <JaneW> Seveas: :)
[11:03] <banana> how do i start firefox in safe mode?
[11:03] <InitMass> is scsi enabled by default in hoary?
[11:03] <Seveas> banana, safe mode..?
[11:03] <danba> mozilla-firefox -safe-mode
[11:04] <danba> also see: man mozilla-firefox
[11:04] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, ah this error message : when deleting cupsys, directory /etc/cups was not empty then it was not deleted !
[11:04] <danba> or see also, rather.:)
[11:04] <banana> Seveas, yes, coz i'm getting an un-contextualized "context menu" when i "right-click" in Firefox. For example, I'm getting the option to "Save Link As..." even though I've not clicked on a link.
[11:05] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: that's normal - it just means it hasn't delete the directory - the contents should be deleted
[11:05] <gandalf__> i accidentally froze xmms, anyone know how to kill it?
[11:05] <danba> thoreauputic: again I disagree.
[11:05] <Choubaka> gandalf__: killall xmms
[11:05] <danba> what command did you use dmoyne?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> danba: OK - I need more coffee
[11:06] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, what you provided : inside now just
[11:06] <danba> no, no, you are good, just wanted to correct you on that single point...
[11:06] <gandalf__> thanks choubaka
[11:07] <danba> banana: I have posted the safe mode syntax, did you get that?
[11:07] <banana> danba, in flood channel?
[11:07] <banana> danba, please do so again, as i've just joined that channel.
[11:07] <danba> right above your question to seveas
[11:08] <danba> or right under your question about it.
[11:08] <dmoyne> thoreauputic, apparently after removinf most of the content of "/etc/cups" (just printer.conf remaining, nothing was reinstalled
[11:08] <flankk> um.. i just installed ubuntu.. it never requested me to set a root password, and it is now prompting me to enter one to su, wtf?
[11:08] <NicP> dont use su flankk
[11:08] <NicP> use sudo
[11:08] <NicP> root isnt enable by default
[11:08] <NicP> enabled
[11:08] <flankk> NicP, but i need to run a program that requires feedback..
[11:08] <danba> sudo command
[11:09] <NicP> sudo program
[11:09] <banana> danba, found it, thanks!
[11:09] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: well, i don't know - somehow you've broken cups, but how I can't figure out
[11:09] <danba> welcome... check out that it is not a feature, though, look in your extensions, maybe an extension that behaves like taht.
[11:10] <flankk> NicP, the program i am trying to run su requires feedback, how can i do that with sudo?
[11:10] <hannes_> sudo su
[11:10] <hannes_> :P
[11:10] <NicP> type sudo then the program
[11:10] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, I thought that some apt commands were designed to bring coherency back !
[11:10] <NicP> its a terminal program yes?
[11:10] <flankk> NicP, yes
[11:11] <NicP> so type sudo command
[11:11] <NicP> where command is the programs name
[11:11] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: you could try ` sudo apt-get -f install ` without any packages - sometimes that helps
[11:11] <flankk> NicP, it doesn't prompt for feedback, it just runs the program....
[11:11] <far0k> how is ubunyus wireless network support out of the box?
[11:11] <far0k> ubuntu*
[11:11] <NicP> what program?
[11:11] <NicP> it should work the same as if you had used su
[11:11] <Seveas> far0k, fairly good if you do not use WPA or 802.1x
[11:12] <danba> thoreauputic: can he update?
[11:12] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: make sure you do ` sudo apt-get update` first
[11:12] <Fikrann> far0k, what chipset?
[11:12] <dmoyne>  thoreauputic, apparently all now is back after using your last command ; I am triny now to install a printer !
[11:12] <thoreauputic> danba: heh - just thought of the same thing as you - again
[11:13] <thoreauputic> ah, good
[11:13] <flankk> NicP, works as user, when i sudo, it drops me at prompt..
[11:13] <danba> yeah: ) I was jus thinking the same thing.
[11:13] <NicP> flankk, what kind of feedback do you mean?
[11:13] <far0k> its a dlink something or other its actually on my m8s comp or i would check
[11:13] <flankk> NicP, i am expecting a prompt for input like it does when i run it as user..
[11:13] <danba> NicP: I guess its time for http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo ?
[11:13] <far0k> just other distros like suse have detected it but then just not work
[11:14] <flankk> danba, tx
[11:14] <NicP> flankk, if its not a terminal program you will have to use gksudo
[11:14] <Seveas> far0k, you might need to use ndiswrapper
[11:14] <flankk> NicP, it is a terminal program.
[11:14] <NicP> i dunno why it wouldnt work then
[11:14] <NicP> sudo su ;)
[11:15] <thoreauputic> dmoyne: so you now have cupsd.conf ?
[11:15] <flankk> NicP, that is messed up.
[11:15] <NicP> what program is it?
[11:15] <flankk> NicP, works though..
[11:16] <flankk> NicP, mb it checks for a login shell? i have no clue, it works as sudo su
[11:16] <zoop81> Hi, anyone know anything about the ALSA breakage in breezy?
[11:17] <danba> zoop81: I have heard of it, I dont think anyone here will help you cause of the /topic
[11:18] <danba> wel, cause of the reason that is in the topic, or some bigger picture a newbie like me cant get(or does not feel like explaining at this late hour)...
[11:18] <Fikrann> zoop81, I didn't have any problems with alsa in breezy .. maybe because I wire alsa sound modules into kernel.
[11:19] <zoop81> Fikrann: Yeah well. It's most probably a problem with the ubuntu kernel, so if you're building your own...
[11:21] <jdizzle> what dvd player does every1 use for hoary
[11:21] <NicP> i use totem and vlc
[11:22] <Fikrann> zoop81, that's the first thing I'm doing for every linux install I set up.
[11:23] <NicP> works fine for me
[11:23] <zaydana> how do i remove certain programs from the "open with" list for a .cpp file, and how do i set the default program?
[11:24] <zoop81> Fikrann: I used to do that too but stopped a year or so ago...
[11:25] <nern> WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
[11:25] <ogi_> Anybody else who has got problems with the file transfer speeds in gaim?
[11:26] <Fikrann> zoop81, I see that as one of more important steps to configure the system to hardware .. besides, I tend to have a lot 'unstandard' hardware around.
[11:26] <nullix> thoreauputic, I am in bettter shapes ecept that I have now a user/password problem to access CUPS server how can I set new ones ?
[11:27] <thoreauputic> nullix: I don't understand the question, sorry - are you trying to use the wen interface to cups in a browser? If so, it's disabled by default in Ubuntu
[11:28] <thoreauputic> *s/wen/web
[11:28] <nullix> thoreauputic, yes with port 631 !
[11:29] <thoreauputic> nullix: use the graphical tool in gnome: it's pretty easy and uses your normal password
[11:29] <BAfH> is there any timeplan, when the g++ and dbus migration of breezy will be fixed?
[11:29] <nullix>  thoreauputic, what is its name ?
[11:29] <thoreauputic> nullix: umm - I'm in fluxbox at the moment - hang on a tic
[11:29] <Fikrann> BAfH, there is none.
[11:30] <BAfH> Fikrann: non timeplan or non migration? :-)
[11:30] <thoreauputic> nullix: gnome-cups-manager I think
[11:31] <Fikrann> BAfH, no timeplan. It all happens when package maintainers feel it's the right thing to do.
[11:31] <thoreauputic> nullix: yup that looks like the one
[11:31] <BAfH> Fikrann: i thought so ;)
[11:31] <jsgotangco> JaneW, hey
[11:32] <zaydana> can somebody tell me how do remove certain programs from the "open with" list for a .cpp file in nautilus, and how do i set the default program?
[11:32] <Fikrann> BAfH, out of curiosity, do you have Openoffice installed?
[11:32] <jack664614894> ubuntu is good
[11:32] <jack664614894> linux
[11:32] <nullix>  thoreauputic, yes apparently I can in supervisor mode add printers ; thanks I will try with this and let you breeze !
[11:33] <jack664614894> ubuntu is 'good'
[11:33] <jack664614894> ubuntu is a ikan kampung
[11:33] <jack664614894> hahhaa
[11:33] <Fikrann> zaydana, I believe I've seen that in Nautilus help file, but I can't recall how it was done.
[11:33] <jack664614894> ubuntu is a selfish
[11:34] <jack664614894> ubuntu likes a shit
[11:34] <Fator_Dee> zaydana: right click on file -> properties -> open with ?   :D
[11:37] <thoreauputic> thanks bob2
[11:37] <zaydana> hooray.
[11:37] <Choubaka> back for more, eh.
[11:37] <Seveas> zaydana, no, it's spelt hoary :)
[11:37] <Fator_Dee> zaydana: I mentioned the way to file handling above, but I'm not exactly sure about the names
[11:38] <zaydana> o i see
[11:38] <zaydana> srry
[11:38] <zaydana> seveas... thats almost a joke my maths teacher would make :p
[11:38] <Fator_Dee> zaydana: it's been a while since I used nautilus, but right click on the file and properties, you should find it there
[11:38] <zaydana> k thanks
[11:38] <BAfH> Fikrann: yes
[11:39] <BAfH> Fikrann: 1.1.3 und <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:39] <Choubaka> Hahaha. he queried me.  Any saviour for my?
[11:40] <Fikrann> BAfH, can you do a favour for me?
[11:40] <Fator_Dee> UbuntuPenguin: firestarter is a good front end to iptables, maybe you could use that?
[11:40] <BAfH> Fikrann: maybe ;)
[11:40] <bob2> 19:39:26     ubuntufans | i will kill you
[11:40] <Choubaka> bob2: :D
[11:40] <Fator_Dee> bob2: ooh, you must be scared now :-<
[11:40] <Choubaka> He queried me and saluted himself, too.
[11:40] <zaydana> another question... is there a way to make an app in the menu run as root by default
[11:40] <zaydana> ?
[11:41] <Choubaka> he said, "hi idiot"
[11:41] <cyphase> lol
[11:41] <UbuntuPenguin> Fator_Dee: But i require pure iptables soulution. ;-((
[11:41] <Seveas> zaydana, edit the .desktop file and make sure it runs gksudo $NAME_OF_APP
[11:41] <Fator_Dee> zaydana: put a gksudo in front of the command, then it'll query you for a password
[11:41] <zaydana> ah k
[11:41] <Hajuu> What package do I need to apt-get to be able to make and configure shit?
[11:41] <zaydana> thanks
[11:41] <zaydana> .desktop file?
[11:41] <Seveas> Hajuu, a toilet?
[11:41] <Fikrann> BAfH, Can you open up OO and click on any menu item?
[11:41] <BAfH> Fikrann: what should i do?
[11:41] <Choubaka> UbuntuPenguin: Firestarter just generates an iptables file.
[11:41] <Choubaka> script, even
[11:41] <Seveas> Hajuu, try build-essential :)
[11:42] <BAfH> Fikrann: wait ... have to login with x-forward ;)
[11:42] <BAfH> Fikrann: oo1 or oo2?
[11:42] <UbuntuPenguin> Choubaka: ;-((((((
[11:42] <Fikrann> UbuntuPenguin, try Shoreline Firewall?
[11:42] <Choubaka> What's with the face? :p
[11:42] <bob2> Fator_Dee: thanks for notifying me
[11:42] <zaydana> where will i find this .desktop file?
[11:42] <bob2> i fI'm not around, I'm more likely to appear if my nick hilighting goes off
[11:42] <Fikrann> BAfH, I'm just curious if it'll crash for you as well.
[11:43] <Fator_Dee> bob2: I guessed you would handle the problem :-)
[11:43] <UbuntuPenguin> Fikrann: I require only one command, but it not work. Only one iptables definition. ;-(((
[11:43] <Fikrann> BAfH, and both versions are suspectible
[11:43] <Hajuu_> sorry bout that
[11:43] <Hajuu_> disconnected
[11:43] <Seveas> zaydana, in /usr/share/applications
[11:43] <Hajuu_> so?
[11:43] <banana> bob2, how long does a ban's effect last?
[11:44] <zaydana> coolios
[11:44] <Seveas> Hajuu, try build-essential :)
[11:44] <Hajuu_> thanks
[11:44] <Fikrann> UbuntuPenguin, I haven't used raw iptables in ages, sorry.
[11:44] <bob2> banana: until someone removes it
[11:44] <UbuntuPenguin> Fikrann: :((
[11:44] <banana> bob2, does anybody in this chatroom have the power to remove it? or only the room manager?
[11:45] <bob2> banana: only channel operators can add and remove bans
[11:45] <banana> bob2, how did you get to become an operator?
[11:45] <bob2> banana: by spending entirely too much time here
[11:46] <banana> So you mean another operator gave you the title?
[11:46] <bob2> yes
[11:46] <Hajuu_> I have a cd with some burned files, which I added the hidden property to in windows before I burned them.. how can I see these files in linux, and/or remove this property?
[11:47] <bob2> Hajuu_: does 'ls -a' show them?
[11:47] <thoreauputic> bob2: is it Ok to /msg you directly if we need ops?
[11:47] <bob2> thoreauputic: of course
[11:47] <thoreauputic> OK thanks
[11:47] <Fikrann> Hajuu_, you rarely can remove something from CD-R
[11:47] <bob2> thoreauputic: but if you /msg me, you're going to be off the end of my screen, mentioning my nick in here will get my attention more quickly
[11:48] <thoreauputic> bob2: OK fine - will do
[11:48] <Hajuu_> bob2:  nah ls -a doesnt show them
[11:48] <UbuntuPenguin> Here is nobody who use pure iptables?
[11:48] <Hajuu_> Fikrann:  I didnt mean while they were on the cd heh
[11:48] <Olsen> UbuntuPenguin: i used a lot
[11:48] <Olsen> UbuntuPenguin: why
[11:49] <BAfH> hmmm
[11:49] <BAfH> Fikrann: have to run setup first ;)
[11:49] <Fikrann> BAfH, Ouch... Sorry
[11:49] <BAfH> hmmm
[11:50] <banana> bob2, can that ubuntufan guy come back by changing his ip address? can one change ip addresses?
[11:50] <BAfH> the output couldn forwarded trough ssh it seems
[11:50] <bob2> banana: yes
[11:50] <mikl> banana: It's not that easy to change IP-adress
[11:50] <bob2> banana: and it depends.  if you're on dialup internet, it probably changes everytime you dial.
[11:50] <nern> hey hey hey
[11:50] <bob2> banana: if you're on dsl/cable, it will change less often, in general
[11:50] <Fator_Dee> mikl: actually it depends
[11:50] <Hajuu_> ok now how do I build a makefile?
[11:50] <Fator_Dee> mikl: for me it's all to easy to change it
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/04/11/ubuntu  <-- Isn't this guy a moron?
[11:51] <mikl> Fator_Dee: oh, in that case .. :)
[11:51] <bob2> tiglionabbit: no
[11:51] <bob2> tiglionabbit: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[11:51] <Fator_Dee> mikl: but that doesn't mean that I'm going to go havoc in here :-p
[11:51] <tiglionabbit> the vast majority of his gripes are wrong and pointless
[11:51] <BAfH> Fikrann: i'm to lame to use it over ssh-forward
[11:51] <bob2> Hajuu_: in general or for a partocular bit of software?
[11:51] <bob2> tiglionabbit: er, that would be entirely subjective
[11:52] <Hajuu_> bob2: for a game called lincity heh
[11:52] <Fikrann> BAfH, Owie
[11:52] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: I think you misunderstand his motives
[11:52] <mikl> tiglionabbit: Well, he has his opinion, and we although our opinions are different, his are not necessarily idiotic
[11:52] <tiglionabbit> k
[11:52] <bob2> tiglionabbit: he was pointing things out so they can be fixed, not ripping on ubuntu.  note he works for the company producing ubuntu.
[11:53] <tiglionabbit> oh
[11:53] <bob2> tiglionabbit: also, two of the gnome founders cite the list as a useful list of things to fix.
[11:53] <tiglionabbit> but some things he gripes about are easily fixable with configuration.  Especially the section on Gaim
[11:53] <Hajuu_> anyone?
[11:53] <bob2> tiglionabbit: right, but sane defaults is an important thing in itself
[11:53] <Hajuu_> heh
[11:53] <bob2> Hajuu_: lincity is in ubuntu...
[11:54] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: read the disclaimer at the bottom of the piece :)
[11:54] <tiglionabbit> yeah I know
[11:54] <gandalf__> i downloaded cedega, but don't have permission to extract it to my hard drive...how do i add it?
[11:54] <yahalom> where does ubuntu store all my icons?
[11:54] <Hajuu_> bob2: Well my install didn't come with it.
[11:54] <banana> tiglionabbit, his boss, the boss who provided him with the computer to test ubuntu, is none other than Mark Shuttleworth, the founder of Ubuntu. The critic is writing to make Ubuntu better. I appreciate his sharp eyes.
[11:54] <tiglionabbit> do you know what could have caused #27 for him?  I don't understand that one
[11:54] <Fator_Dee> tiglionabbit: even if there are some points that are kind of... pointless, there a still lot's of things to be corrected
[11:54] <bob2> Hajuu_: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:54] <mischa> hi everyone
[11:54] <bob2> Hajuu_: it's in the universe repository
[11:55] <bob2> tiglionabbit: gnome-session sometimes goes nuts and stops updating things (has happened to me)
[11:55] <ToutPT|ppc|fr> /away go o restoU
[11:55] <bob2> tiglionabbit: mpt is canonical's usability dude, fwiw
[11:56] <tiglionabbit> ah, alright
[11:56] <Hajuu_> oh well there it is
[11:56] <tiglionabbit> I agree with him on the CD issues though.
[11:56] <Hajuu_> haha
[11:56] <Hajuu_> well anyway
[11:56] <gandalf__> i downloaded cedega, but don't have permission to extract it to my hard drive...how do i add it? please
[11:56] <Hajuu_> how does one configure and build a program?
[11:56] <Hajuu_> just for future knowledge
[11:56] <Seveas> Hajuu, ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall
[11:56] <tiglionabbit> Hajuu: get the program, read the README
[11:56] <Hajuu_> as ive been needing to do it for a few pieces of software
[11:56] <UbuntuPenguin> Please help! Is here any saviour for my, for help with iptables port redirecting? Please.
[11:57] <mischa> question: how can i disable the startup sound when i enter gnome. i already disabled System->Preferences->Sound-> Sound events-> Logon and Logoff, but that does not help.
[11:57] <bob2> UbuntuPenguin: have you asked your question yet?
[11:57] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: such as?
[11:57] <banana> can sombody help me with a problem i have with firefox, please, it's rather technical, but i could'nt get any help from the firefox irc room.
[11:57] <Seveas> UbuntuPenguin, local redirect?
[11:57] <tiglionabbit> I like that Ubuntu is brown though.
[11:57] <bob2> banana: just ask...
[11:57] <Hajuu_> thoreauputic:  some free 3d games like VDrag
[11:57] <UbuntuPenguin> Seveas: On local network, from one server torougth gate to Internet.
[11:57] <banana> thanks, bob2. i didn't want to change the subject from ubuntu to Fx, you see.
[11:57] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: I think that was intended as a joke:) It's easily changed anyway
[11:58] <banana> The question is: how do i apply a patch?
[11:58] <bob2> banana: why do you want to apply a patch?
[11:58] <Hajuu_> I dont mind the brown
[11:58] <tiglionabbit> oh, and I'm sort of scared about the project of making a splashscreen for the terminal loading.  Many linux users like getting the status menus.  And sometimes a process fails or takes too long, and needs to be skipped (control-C).  If they implement a splashscreen, please oh please add a SKIP button!
[11:58] <banana> The patch is on this webpage: http://bugzilla.mozdev.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10350. bob2, i want to apply a patch to fix up a problem i'm having with an extension (greasemonkey)
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> oh I said so many things wrong in that.  Status lines..  the [OK]  things
[11:59] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: I expect that will be "geek option button " ;-)
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> and s/terminal menu/startup process
[11:59] <tiglionabbit>   /
[11:59] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, that is the first thing that will be implemented in a splash screen :)
[11:59] <tiglionabbit> good
[11:59] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: "click here for the full geek boot-up experience " ;D
[12:00] <tiglionabbit> lol
[12:00] <BAfH> Fikrann: okay .. the problem with the forwrd is fixed ... now i'm waiting for starting oo
[12:00] <tiglionabbit> say, on the topic of that, how do I fix #21 ?
[12:01] <Hajuu_> Ahh gotta love Bali CD's.. A random assortment of live/bootleg/album songs.. then concluded with the theme from mission impossible..
[12:01] <Hajuu_> And it was a UT album
[12:01] <Hajuu_> err
[12:01] <Hajuu_> U2
[12:01] <tiglionabbit> Unreal 2rnament
[12:01] <Hajuu_> heh
[12:02] <mischa> question: how can i disable the startup sound when i enter gnome. i already disabled System->Preferences->Sound-> Sound events-> Logon and Logoff, but that does not help.
[12:02] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: ctrl+c to skip time server check
[12:02] <tiglionabbit> *repeats himself*  how do I fix #21: the network interfaces thing taking forever?
[12:02] <tiglionabbit> I just hit control-C every time
[12:02] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: yup
[12:02] <liable> tiglionabbit: comment out the atuo line in interfaces
[12:03] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: you could disable the start up scripts for it
[12:03] <liable> auto
[12:03] <tiglionabbit> liable: in interfaces?
[12:03] <liable> /etc/network/interfaces
[12:03] <liable> tiglionabbit: my bad, time thing?
[12:03] <bob2> banana: how much do you care? rebuilding it is a rather large undertaking.
[12:04] <tiglionabbit> *googles* some thread says  `sudo update-rc.d -f networking remove`
[12:04] <banana> you mean i just can't somehow edit a file and add the code into it, bob2?
[12:04] <liable> tiglionabbit: no dont do that
[12:04] <banana> or put that patch file in some directory, bob2?
[12:04] <TMzZLo> fresh install Ubuntu 5.04, when logging to X computer stops responding after 2seconds. tryed new version of kernel problem the same
[12:05] <TMzZLo> can anyone help me?
[12:05] <tiglionabbit> liable: well darn, guess I can't trust the first result in google.  Good thing I asked here!
[12:05] <Hajuu_> uhh.. I hate it when apt-get doesnt create aliases for stuff and doesnt tell me where it installs it
[12:05] <Hajuu_> how can I find out where its installed?
[12:05] <ubuntu> loxai jus wisi
[12:05] <TMzZLo> ;]
[12:06] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: dpkg -L | grep bin
[12:06] <tiglionabbit> Hajuu_: I am interested in that too
[12:06] <thoreauputic> Hajuu: will find the executable - actually dpkg -L <package> | grep bin
[12:06] <Hajuu_> thought so
[12:07] <tiglionabbit> oh, that's very nice
[12:07] <tiglionabbit> good to know
[12:07] <Fator_Dee> TMzZLo: I had a similar problem a week ago and the reason was that 2 of my RAM sticks were borked
[12:07] <bob2> banana: run this: find ~/.mozilla/firefox -name "browser.xul"
[12:07] <TMzZLo> PC ATI Radeon X600, Samsung SATA SP1213c, P4 LGA 1mb/800, 256ddr ,MB Gigabyte GA-8I915P Duo
[12:07] <TMzZLo> i have onli one ram stick
[12:08] <banana> bob2, okay, i ran it.
[12:08] <tiglionabbit> so the line I want to comment out in interfaces is "auto lo" ?  Boy does this file have a lot of whitespace
[12:08] <Fator_Dee> TMzZLo: I'm not saying that the problem is in your RAM, but it *could* be
[12:08] <bob2> banana: what did it print?
[12:08] <TMzZLo> but in console my computer works fine
[12:08] <banana> it printed a directory and the file browser.xul.
[12:08] <tiglionabbit> or do I want to comment out "auto eth1" and "auto eth0" as well?
[12:08] <Fator_Dee> TMzZLo: so only your X doesn't work?
[12:08] <TMzZLo> i think problem might be in Video card
[12:08] <banana> should i open that file with a text editor or something, bob2?
[12:08] <TMzZLo> yes
[12:08] <bob2> banana: yes, I know
[12:08] <bob2> banana: no
[12:09] <bob2> banana: cd to the dir it is in
[12:09] <liable> tiglionabbit: no, what are you actually trying to stop?
[12:09] <Fator_Dee> TMzZLo: try to do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:09] <banana> bob2, done
[12:09] <TMzZLo> only X and then it starts everithing fine but when i enter login name and password computer stops responding after 2second
[12:09] <Fator_Dee> TMzZLo: and be sure that the refresh rates and resolutions are so that the monitor can handle them
[12:09] <tiglionabbit> when I am starting up ubuntu, it pauses for a while on "Configuring Network Interfaces..." as mentioned in problem #21 in that dude's list of gripes
[12:09] <TMzZLo> i have cheked them
[12:10] <TMzZLo> Fator_Dee resolution is fine
[12:10] <TMzZLo> and refresh
[12:10] <Fator_Dee> TMzZLo: have you looked in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[12:10] <tiglionabbit> I always make it skip this step.  I'm asking how to disable it
[12:10] <TMzZLo> one minute
[12:10] <phend> morning all
[12:11] <phend> can anybody recommend a good book on postgres, or a good online tutorial?
[12:11] <bob2> banana: run: patch -p1 < /path/to/where/you/downloaded/the/file.patch
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> btw, network interfaces are incredibly slow, even in the network-admin gui.  Changing profile takes forever, and the program waits a long time and then prints an error to console when I hit OK.  What's up with this?
[12:11] <bob2> banana: which is the patch from the bts
[12:11] <liable> tiglionabbit: is it looking for a dhcp and timing out?
[12:11] <bob2> tiglionabbit: fix /etc/network/interfaces
[12:11] <banana> what's bts,bob2?
[12:11] <tiglionabbit> bob2: fix how?
[12:11] <bob2> tiglionabbit: if an interface shouldn't try to come up on boot, don't configure it to
[12:11] <TMzZLo> Fator_Dee my computer stop responding at all i cant jump to another tty and i think its imposible to create error log to se what has happend
[12:11] <bob2> banana: bugzilla.
[12:12] <bob2> tiglionabbit: remove the "auto eth0" line or whatever it is
[12:12] <tiglionabbit> TMzZLo: I didn't configure anything to do this.  What do you mean?
[12:12] <banana> bob2, is it easiest if i put the file in the same directory?
[12:12] <tiglionabbit> okay
[12:12] <bob2> banana: doesn't matter
[12:12] <tiglionabbit> what do the iface lines do?  "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[12:13] <tiglionabbit> and "auto lo"
[12:13] <Fator_Dee> TMzZLo: well, you should check the log anyway, but after that, I don't have advices on what to do, sorry :-\
[12:13] <liable> tiglionabbit: just comment out the auto line above it
[12:13] <bob2> tiglionabbit: man 5 interfaces
[12:13] <banana> bob2, the patch is in my home directory... what is the path?
[12:13] <liable> tiglionabbit: etho, or whatever your nic is
[12:13] <bob2> tiglionabbit: the first one says interface eth0 uses dhcp with ipv5
[12:13] <bob2> banana: ~/
[12:13] <TMzZLo> thanks anyway
[12:13] <tiglionabbit> ah
[12:13] <bob2> tiglionabbit: the second says "bring up the loopback interface on boot"
[12:14] <tiglionabbit> btw, is it submitted as a bug yet that "network-admin" takes forever at the task of changing profile?
[12:14] <TMzZLo> tiglionabbit where did you find this words?
[12:14] <tiglionabbit>  /etc/network/interfaces, tmzzlo
[12:15] <TMzZLo> [13:12]  <tiglionabbit> TMzZLo: I didn't configure anything to do this.  What do you mean?
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> to start at startup.
[12:15] <thoreauputic> TMzZLo: /etc/network/interfaces is auto configured , initially
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> I'm saying there is no option of whether or not to attempt to detect these things in startup
[12:15] <tiglionabbit> in any gui or during the install
[12:16] <banana> should i exit out of firefox, bob2, as i run that patch command?
[12:16] <bob2> banana: yes
[12:16] <bob2> tiglionabbit: there's no point asking about it
[12:16] <liable> tiglionabbit: just edit the file and reboot
[12:16] <tiglionabbit> yes I know
[12:16] <bob2> tiglionabbit: the real solution is to not try to bring it up if there's no cable plugged into it
[12:16] <bob2> which will happen for breezy
[12:16] <tiglionabbit> cool
[12:17] <liable> ifplugd :)
[12:17] <banana> bob2, i ran that command before exiting, and now i've extied. the command still seems to be in process.
[12:17] <tiglionabbit> liable: I tried installing the ifplugd package, and it did not solve this problem
[12:17] <banana> i suppose it takes some time for the patching to happen...
[12:17] <liable> tiglionabbit: comment the auto line out
[12:17] <bob2> banana: that probably means you didn't run what I typed
[12:17] <bob2> banana: check again
[12:17] <tiglionabbit> liable: I know
[12:17] <liable> tiglionabbit: then it should
[12:17] <Fator_Dee> quickie question, I want to tar a directory? how to do it?
[12:17] <Hajuu_> didn't like lincity much.. but I got simcity 2000 going through wine
[12:18] <Fator_Dee> or tar.gz
[12:18] <Hajuu_> no hassles at all :D
[12:18] <tiglionabbit> oh, you mean ifplugd will make it do auto, but not keep it from doing auto?
[12:18] <bob2> Fator_Dee: man tar: hint tar -cf foo.tar /directory/to/tar/
[12:18] <banana> bob2, you're right. I forgot the < character!
[12:18] <Fator_Dee> bob2: thanks
[12:18] <banana> i'll quit terminal and restart terminal.
[12:20] <banana> bob2, done. now, i'll try to start firefox with that extension and see if the problem is fixed.
[12:20] <tiglionabbit> I still don't understand what "lo" means.  It isn't mentioned in this man page
[12:20] <liable> tiglionabbit: dont worry about it
[12:20] <theturner> thats the loopback interface
[12:20] <banana> bob2, if this is the end of the patching, it wasn't as hard as you made it sound. Thanks to your great step-by-step instructions!  8-)
[12:20] <bob2> tiglionabbit: loopback interface
[12:21] <bob2> tiglionabbit: the interface <IP_ADDRESS> is on
[12:21] <tiglionabbit> ah
[12:21] <bob2> banana: I thought it was an actual patch to firefox
[12:21] <bob2> banana: it was just a patch to greasemonkey
[12:21] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: linux treats your local machine a s a special case network interface (in simple terms)
[12:21] <banana> yes.
[12:21] <ilba7r> bob2 which firewall frontend you recommend guard dog or firestarter
[12:21] <banana> you are really knowledgeable about these things. impressive.
[12:22] <bob2> ilba7r: I only use shorewall, sorry
[12:22] <theturner> firestarter is very recommendable
[12:22] <ilba7r> bob 2 are they all the same
[12:22] <banana> is there a way to find out the maximum upload and download speeds i have? Coz my ISP never did give me exact figures...
[12:22] <ilba7r> thanx theturner
[12:23] <theturner> you're welcome
[12:23] <theturner> where do you live?
[12:23] <thoreauputic> ilba7r: no, different features and usablity ( I find firestarter quite good)
[12:23] <theturner> you need a spped test server very near from you
[12:23] <theturner> s/spped/speed
[12:23] <ilba7r> thanx alot i always know i will find help here thanks guys
[12:23] <ilba7r> see ya
[12:23] <bob2> banana: theoretical values aren't very useful
[12:23] <banana> is there a quicker way to turn on (enable) the extensions, rather than clicking on each one and selecting "enable"?
[12:23] <bob2> banana: just time things you normally do
[12:24] <tiglionabbit> say, is there a place where ubuntu bugs are reported?
[12:24] <theturner> banana: there's a bandwidth test extension for firefox
[12:24] <tiglionabbit> or listed?
[12:24] <banana> bob2, thanks for your help in patching.
[12:24] <bob2> tiglionabbit: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[12:24] <djp> bluetooth > ubuntu > mobile phone? How? ;)
[12:24] <bob2> tiglionabbit: and launchpad.ubuntu.com
[12:24] <banana> theturner, true, but did you see the rating it has on mozilla's site?
[12:24] <padlefot_> does anybody know a good free namserver service? with email forwarding supported?
[12:24] <theturner> banana: no.
[12:25] <tiglionabbit> hehe, I like bug #1
[12:25] <banana> it has a very low rating, theturner
[12:25] <gandalf_storm> hey again
[12:25] <theturner> padlefot: dyndns.org ?
[12:26] <tiglionabbit> say, about nameservers, is it possible to get a url and have it direct to somewhere down a directory tree, rather than the root of a domain?
[12:26] <theturner> banana: http://performance.chello.at:81/cgi-bin/upspeed.pl
[12:26] <bob2> tiglionabbit: no
[12:26] <tiglionabbit> er, a url without directories in it
[12:26] <bob2> tiglionabbit: not using dns
[12:26] <tiglionabbit> aw
[12:26] <bob2> tiglionabbit: dns just converts names to ip addresses
[12:26] <theturner> banana: the values will be lower than you actual speed if you're not in europe
[12:26] <tiglionabbit> it would be fun to be able to add directories to that
[12:26] <banana> what's the keyboard equivalent of secondary-mouse-button clicking?
[12:26] <bob2> tiglionabbit: you can play web server tricks to redirect blah.com to foo.com/blah/, though.
[12:27] <bob2> tiglionabbit: bear in mind DNS was created 10 years before http.
[12:27] <tiglionabbit> yes, but in that case I would have to own blah.com.  What if I only have a user account?
[12:27] <banana> theturner, right. so i should find a website checker in my area, right?
[12:27] <bob2> tiglionabbit: blah.com is a domain name, not a machine
[12:28] <tiglionabbit> but I mean I'd need to control the index of it
[12:28] <theturner> banana: better do that, yeah.
[12:28] <bob2> tiglionabbit: you'd have to control the web server configuration of blah.com, yes
[12:28] <tiglionabbit> I suppose I could get my dns to refer to an index i do own, and have that page redirect for me
[12:28] <theturner> djp: install gnome-phone-manager and gnome-bluetooth.
[12:28] <gandalf_storm> still on same question, have cedega rpm, but no run file, and no permission to extract it to my filesys
[12:29] <Jmax1632> <_<
[12:29] <bob2> gandalf_storm: ask transgaming for the .deb file instead
[12:29] <Jmax1632> >_>
[12:29] <bob2> Jmax1632: ?
[12:29] <Jmax1632> anyone here can help a newbie?
[12:29] <YoshiBishi> =o
[12:30] <theturner> gandalf_storm: or use alien
[12:30] <djp> theturner: the phone in question is an SE K700i. will that work with the utils you specified?
[12:30] <gandalf_storm> alien?
[12:30] <bob2> Jmax1632: just ask your question...
[12:30] <Jmax1632> well
[12:30] <bob2> gandalf_storm: when you pay transgaming, don't they give you an option of rpm or deb?
[12:30] <tiglionabbit> alien can convert rpms to debs
[12:30] <banana> Jmax1632, i like your roving eyes textual-art!
[12:30] <Jmax1632> a `sudo apt-get install dhcpcd` returns a "could not open lock file/var/lib/dpkg/lock" error
[12:30] <Jmax1632> permission denied, basically
[12:30] <theturner> gandalf_storm: man alien
[12:31] <hyphenated> djp: I made mine work with KDE using kbluetoothd, but that won't help you much, since it's 1) KDE and 2) building a bunch of stuff from CVS
[12:31] <gandalf_storm> thanks
[12:31] <Seveas> Jmax1632, close synaptic and all other instances of package managers
[12:31] <YoshiBishi> oh wait lol jmax
[12:31] <tiglionabbit> Jmax1632: do you have another interface for apt open?
[12:31] <YoshiBishi> i forgot the sudo =P
[12:31] <theturner> gandalf_storm: alien can install non-debian package formats on debian systems
[12:31] <YoshiBishi> hahaha
[12:31] <Jmax1632> you ran su?
[12:31] <YoshiBishi> but "Couldn't find package"
[12:31] <Jmax1632> ok
[12:31] <gandalf_storm> theturner: thanks
[12:31] <Jmax1632> what package contains dhcpcd?
[12:31] <djp> hyphenated: do you have the K700i?
[12:32] <theturner> djp: most probably. bluetooth is bluetooth.
[12:32] <djp> theturner: ok, thanks.
[12:32] <thoreauputic> Jmax1632: you mean dhcpd ?
[12:32] <Jmax1632> yes
[12:32] <Jmax1632> oops
[12:32] <theturner> djp: my t68i is working just fine
[12:32] <Jmax1632> YoshiBishi: `sudo apt-get install dhcpd`
[12:32] <YoshiBishi> no package
[12:33] <theturner> djp: you're welcome.
[12:33] <djp> theturner: :). right then, i will have to get one of those bluetooth dongle thingys!
[12:33] <thoreauputic> Jmax1632: apt-cache search dhcpd
[12:33] <Jmax1632> YoshiBishi: got that?
[12:33] <YoshiBishi> yea
[12:33] <YoshiBishi> now what
[12:33] <Jmax1632> what results?
[12:33] <YoshiBishi> nothing happened
[12:33] <banana> can someone help me set up gmailfs, please?
[12:33] <thoreauputic> Jmax1632: dhcp3-server - DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment
[12:34] <Jmax1632> thoreauputic: we want to connect TO a dhcp server
[12:34] <theturner> djp: yeah, luckily they cost practically nothing ;)
[12:34] <thoreauputic> Jmax1632: the you need dhclient I'd say
[12:34] <Jmax1632> ie. ISP runs dhcpd, and we want to connect
[12:34] <tiglionabbit> say, this is weird.  Some fonts do not show at all in firefox
[12:34] <Jmax1632> thoreauputic: which pkg?
[12:34] <Fator_Dee> banana: aren't they against googlemails rules?
[12:35] <Fator_Dee> banana: I heard that from someone in hear
[12:35] <Jmax1632> yes they are
[12:35] <Fator_Dee> here even...
[12:35] <tiglionabbit> like for instance, Additional Comments on this page is a blank box https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3328
[12:35] <banana> Fator_Dee, viewing your own email via gmail's website is against gmail's rules, did you know that?
[12:35] <tiglionabbit> how do I fix this weirdness?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> Jmax1632: um - it should be installed by default
[12:35] <Fator_Dee> banana: hnh?
[12:35] <Jmax1632> thoreauputic: what command?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> dhclient
[12:36] <Jmax1632> k
[12:36] <tiglionabbit> uh, what's banana and factor_dee talking about?
[12:36] <tiglionabbit> anyway, fontness.  What up with this?
[12:36] <Fator_Dee> banana wanted to setup a gmailfs, and I just thought they were against gmails policy
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> gmailfs?
[12:37] <Fator_Dee> tiglionabbit: basically you are using your 1gig gmail account as a remote storage
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> hehe
[12:37] <handeb> hey how do i sart smb on the live cd?
[12:37] <tiglionabbit> it's actually nearly 3 gigs now
[12:37] <handeb> i just want to see my shars
[12:37] <Fator_Dee> tiglionabbit: well, basically :-p
[12:38] <tiglionabbit> and I believe they do allow you to store pictures there via picassa, though that's a windows application
[12:38] <tiglionabbit> you can email pictures to yourself, btw
[12:38] <tiglionabbit> or files
[12:38] <banana> Fator_Dee, "You ... agree that you will not use manual process to monitor any content from the Service." This is from http://gmail.google.com/gmail/help/terms_of_use.html.
[12:39] <imsdle> how do i fix this? The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:39] <imsdle>   skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) but 3:3.2.3-4ubuntu1 is to be installed
[12:39] <tiglionabbit> lol
[12:39] <imsdle> ??????????????
[12:39] <Fator_Dee> banana: I sayd, that I just heard from someone that they were agains their policy and I wanted to inform you of that
[12:39] <banana> tiglionabbit, well, it's currently at 2246MB.
[12:39] <Fator_Dee> banana: I don't personally care if you use it, but I wanted you to know about it
[12:39] <handeb> lol never mind probley is working just havn't got a windows machine turned on
[12:40] <banana> ok.
[12:40] <tiglionabbit> *repeats himself*  Firefox!  Font invisible!  WTFS
[12:40] <raDeon> WHO CALLED ME
[12:40] <banana> tiglionabbit, doesn't picassa reduce the filesizes of images? or is it just flickr?
[12:40] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: try setting it to use your font choice in edit>> prefs or wherever it is
[12:40] <imsdle> anyone?
[12:41] <thoreauputic> I had a similar issue with some sites
[12:41] <banana> imsdle, then get those dependcies.
[12:42] <Jmax1632> ok
[12:42] <Q-FUNK> one question about the live CD:  since which Ubuntu release does the CD include win32 ports of e.g. OOo and Firefox, from the OpenCD project?
[12:42] <theturner> Q-FUNK: since Warty, the first release
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Q-FUNK: only on the Hoary version, AFAIK
[12:42] <Jmax1632> can someone help YoshiBishi set up his roadrunner internet service on Hoary?
[12:42] <thoreauputic> theturner: really?
[12:43] <theturner> thoreauputic: i am quite sure
[12:43] <thoreauputic> OK
[12:43] <handeb> how to i install .deb?
[12:43] <handeb> im used to rpms
[12:43] <thoreauputic> sudo dpkg -i <nameofdeb>
[12:43] <Fator_Dee> handeb: sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb
[12:44] <Q-FUNK> handeb: but you most probably would rather use APT or Synaptic to fetch the deb and handle the dependencies for you.
[12:44] <thoreauputic> handeb: in general you should use synaptic/apt instead though
[12:44] <imsdle> my evolution keeps freezing.. does anyone know how to update or reinstall it...?
[12:44] <SirGir> I want to stop Gdm from running at boot, will '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' be enoght?
[12:45] <SirGir> enough*
[12:45] <Juhaz> no
[12:45] <handeb> thanks thoreauputic :D
[12:45] <SirGir> or do I have to edit inittab?
[12:45] <SirGir> or what?
[12:45] <thoreauputic> SirGir: no, that won't persist across reboots
[12:45] <handeb> Q-FUNK, yeah but opera is not on apt
[12:45] <IIIEars> same trouble here with evolution - installed thunderbird. - no more troubles. - easier to set up also.
[12:46] <chrissturm> anyone know how to fix the key bindings in breezy?
[12:46] <Burgundavia> chrissturm, a fix is coming
[12:46] <Burgundavia> chrissturm, should be the next few days
[12:46] <thoreauputic> SirGir: edit  /etc/X11/default-display-manager and put "false"
[12:47] <chrissturm> burgundavia: anything i can do to fix it locally?
[12:47] <IIIEars> www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/
[12:47] <Burgundavia> chrissturm, no idea
[12:47] <chrissturm> thx
[12:47] <OConnor> c ke g un probleme
[12:47] <SirGir> thoreauputic, 'false' insted of '/usr/bin/gdm' ?
[12:47] <OConnor> avec c dlire la
[12:47] <thoreauputic> yes
[12:48] <SirGir> thenostradamus, Thanks!
[12:48] <thoreauputic> SirGir: ^^
[12:48] <thoreauputic> SirGir: heh - tab completion error :)
[12:48] <OConnor> il me fau d plugins additionnels
[12:49] <amichai> hey can someone tell  me where i can edit my interface
[12:49] <thoreauputic> OConnor: /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:49] <Seveas> amichai, sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:49] <OConnor> merci
[12:49] <amichai> Seveas, thanx man. can u tell me where  i can get good xtra repos, cos the ones on ubuntuguide broke my ubuntu
[12:50] <Seveas> amichai, why do you want extras? the official ubuntu ones provide quite a lot...
[12:50] <giggsey> how do I install a .deb
[12:50] <giggsey> whats the command
[12:50] <Fator_Dee> giggsey: sudo dpkg -i debfile.deb
[12:50] <amichai> Seveas, ok. so i'll stay away fromt hem
[12:50] <lonewolff> sudo dpkg -i yourpackage.deb
[12:51] <IIIEars> gigg - dpkg -i yourdeb
[12:51] <amichai> Seveas, one more thing: does this make sense to u: # The primary network interface
[12:51] <amichai> auto eth\iface etho inet static\ address <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:51] <Seveas> no
[12:51] <Seveas> address <IP_ADDRESS> does not make sense :)
[12:51] <Fator_Dee> amichai: you should only use ubuntu's own repos, main, restricted, universe, multiverse
[12:52] <amichai> Seveas, only the <IP_ADDRESS> doesnt make sense? what about eth\iface etho inet static ?
[12:52] <giggsey> thanks Fator_Dee, you guys are my heros today, and you must be fed up of me ;)
[12:52] <amichai> Fator_Dee, thanx will do.
[12:52] <amichai> Seveas, the <IP_ADDRESS> works. not sure whether inet is correct
[12:53] <Seveas> that is correct
[12:53] <amichai> ok cool :0
[12:53] <Seveas> but <IP_ADDRESS> ..? why don't you put your real address there
[12:53] <amichai> :0)
[12:53] <althepcman> having problems with wine can anyone help?
[12:53] <giggsey> now starts the long list of install dependaces
[12:53] <giggsey> ^_^
[12:53] <amichai> Seveas, i dont know. it works great without it. i dont get d/c anymore
[12:54] <IIIEars> giggsey - "Pay it Forward" - :)
[12:54] <thoreauputic> althepcman: alcoholics anonymous ?
[12:54] <amichai> Seveas, i dont have a static ip
[12:54] <Seveas> amichai, ah
[12:54] <Seveas> then the thing does not make sense :)
[12:54] <Seveas> remove the addr line
[12:54] <Seveas> the iface line should be: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[12:55] <safezone> hi room
[12:55] <amichai> Seveas, but then i get disconnected every 30 min when it renews the ip
[12:55] <giggsey> IIIEars, o-O?
[12:55] <althepcman> thoreauputic: thanks but no thanks
[12:55] <handeb> apt-get -f install should fill mising depends ay?
[12:55] <giggsey> ohh
[12:55] <giggsey> ohh
[12:55] <safezone> an one good with linux
[12:55] <IIIEars> return the favor to others that ask.
[12:55] <giggsey> ill do it myself
[12:55] <thoreauputic> althepcman: I think you need to be more specific ;)
[12:56] <Seveas> amichai, that's weird...
[12:56] <amichai> Seveas, i know. but this worked great.
[12:56] <Seveas> amichai, try editing /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf (oslt) and disable that timeout
[12:56] <althepcman> thoreauputic: ok I am tring to install msi and I get Wine failed with return code 250
[12:56] <thoreauputic> althepcman: have you asked in #winehq?
[12:56] <safezone> i need hellp in ubuntu
[12:57] <thoreauputic> althepcman: they would be more likely to know
[12:57] <Burgundavia> safezone, what is your issue?
[12:57] <amichai> Seveas, i dont have such a file
[12:57] <samuelc> Question, I've had hoary 5.04 on my other computer before working fine. I recently got a new hdd, and have tried to re-install it, I have entered different install parameters (via chipset), but still after about 5 seconds it is coming up with "Kernel Panic - not syncing: Attempting to kill init!"
[12:57] <safezone> i newly installed this linux
[12:58] <handeb> apt-get -f install should fill mising depends ay?
[12:58] <safezone> but i don't know the password as root
[12:58] <IIIEars> safezone - there is no need for a root password sudo does it all
[12:58] <Seveas> amichai, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[12:58] <safezone> how is that
[12:58] <samuelc> hrm ^^^ the question to my previous post would be, has anybody encounted or heard of this problem? and is it fixable?
[12:59] <althepcman> thoreauputic: I have but it seems no one knows I was just asking here if some here had seen it
[12:59] <Seveas> samuelc, i the install cd panicing or the installed system?
[12:59] <yahalom> Seveas, i dont see any timeout uncommented
[01:00] <IIIEars> safezone - if someone knows a account name "root" in this example it is easier foor them to break in.   sudo <command> is more secure
[01:00] <tiglionabbit> safezone: use your user password
[01:00] <samuelc> Seveas : I assume it's the cd, because it is a fresh hdd. I've re-burned the iso, and re-downloaded the iso from a different site(just to be sure), same problem.
[01:00] <safezone> i did but it didn't work
[01:01] <IIIEars> ubuntuguide.org http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/
[01:01] <|Ivanch0|> someone knows its is posible configure 3d aceleration in vmware?
[01:01] <Fator_Dee> samuelc: you can use the md5sum to check if you dl'ed and burned it properly
[01:01] <Seveas> samuelc: i meant: did you get panic booting the install cd or is the install cd working fine but after that it panics?
[01:01] <safezone> i need to switch to root
[01:01] <Fator_Dee> safezone: what do you need to use root for?
[01:01] <Seveas> safezone, you can use sudo
[01:01] <Seveas> safezone: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:01] <samuelc> Seveas : sorry, It boots the install cd, and then panics
[01:02] <IIIEars> safezone - sudo <application_name> works also.
[01:02] <Seveas> samuelc, afaik the install cd can take several boot options, have you tried them?
[01:03] <samuelc> Seveas : yeah I have tried all that are relevant, even some that aren't, still same error, I have no idea why it would do this considering 2 weeks ago it was working fine, same hardware except different hdd
[01:03] <IIIEars> Seveas - I need a script to save links in. Do you know of one?
[01:04] <safezone> i need to change resolution
[01:04] <IIIEars> safezone - Is your display offering more than 640x480?
[01:04] <safezone> no
[01:06] <safezone> only 640*480 and 60refrsh rate
[01:07] <Fator_Dee> safezone: what are the resolutions and refresh rate your monitor is capable of?
[01:07] <safezone> over xp it can give 1024 and more
[01:07] <IIIEars> safezone - Ouch! - Easy to fix though. - kill the xserver (desktop gui) CTRL+ALT+ <backspace> then login @  give your user password , then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - let me give you the webpage if you have trouble.
[01:07] <Seveas> samuelc, are you sure it boots from the cd and not an installd linux system on a harddisk?
[01:07] <Fator_Dee> safezone: when you know them, you can reconfigure xserver-xorg and you can specify the resolutions to be used
[01:08] <Seveas> if so -> file a bugreport please :)
[01:08] <Fator_Dee> IIIEars: you don't necessarily have to kill teh xserver to reconfig it
[01:08] <Fator_Dee> IIIEars: you can reconfig in x and then restart
[01:08] <safezone> ok
[01:08] <IIIEars> Seveas - do you have the link for ubuntu dpkg recongiure screen res.?
[01:08] <samuelc> Seveas - hrmm I was hoping i wouldn't have to get to that stage
[01:09] <safezone> no give it to me
[01:09] <IIIEars> uFator_Dee - do you have the link?
[01:09] <Fator_Dee> IIIEars: nope, never had the need for one :-|
[01:09] <Fator_Dee> I could try to find it though, but it's not hard
[01:10] <IIIEars> just a sec got too many - let me reread 'em.
[01:12] <Fator_Dee> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto that might be it
[01:13] <podge> Anyone get spam from KusursuZ??
[01:13] <flankk> okay, i get halfway through compiling wine, and then the computer shuts down. i really don't respect that.
[01:13] <IIIEars> safezone - whew too many links i need a maid. - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:13] <safezone> ok thanks a lot
[01:14] <rixth> Can one have more than 4 workspaceS?
[01:14] <safezone> ok i'll try it
[01:14] <giggsey> is there an easy way to install Anjuta, like other programs ive installed this morning
[01:14] <IIIEars> safezone - Welcome!
[01:14] <flankk> i've compiled wine on several different distributions, same version of wine, no issues.  no excuse for that...
[01:14] <podge> rixth: You should be able to right click on the workspaces. Then go to preferences.. then change how many your want!
[01:15] <Fator_Dee> rixth: I have 6 :-|
[01:15] <Fator_Dee> rixth: so I'd guess so
[01:15] <synd> i hate allergies :|
[01:15] <rixth> Thanks
[01:16] <IIIEars> Fator_Dee - I need a python script to type out links for FAQs - do you know one?
[01:16] <podge> Fator_Dee: 6.. Wow..
[01:16] <podge> Fator_Dee: What you doing on all those workspaces? :)
[01:16] <flankk> anyone know what would cause this?
[01:16] <thoreauputic> giggsey: anjuta is in the universe repo
[01:17] <podge> flankk: Does it happen when you compile other big proagrams?
[01:17] <Seveas> flankk, why compiling wine, the version in the ubuntu repos is recent....
[01:17] <thoreauputic> giggsey: so if that is enabled, sudo apt-get install anjuta
[01:17] <Fator_Dee> podge: I like to keep different programs on different workspaces :-)
[01:17] <podge> Seveas: I agree.
[01:17] <Fator_Dee> podge: I don't feel crowded that way, but sometimes even 6 is not enough :-p
[01:17] <flankk> Seveas, is it though?
[01:17] <podge> Fator_Dee: You would be in trouble running Windows then eh? :)
[01:17] <Fator_Dee> podge: I'd be mentally ill :-|
[01:18] <Seveas> Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1
[01:18] <flankk> Seveas, that is old!
[01:18] <Fator_Dee> podge: there's absolutely no way I could use any OS without workspaces now :-)
[01:19] <Seveas> flankk, it's as recent as it gets in a stable distro...
[01:19] <giggsey> thanks thoreauputic
[01:19] <Seveas> flankk, if you want bleeding-edge, go gentoo...
[01:19] <flankk> Seveas, so you're saying stable is when your computer shuts down mid-compile.. right.
[01:19] <thoreauputic> giggsey: for future reference: to find a package run ` apt-cache search <keyword> `
[01:19] <podge> Fator_Dee: Agreed.
[01:20] <podge> Some good looking women on Miss Universe at the moment..
[01:20] <flankk> Seveas, lose the attitude please. i have used many distributions, including gentoo, never had an involuntary shutdown.
[01:20] <Fator_Dee> O.o
[01:20] <giggsey> kk
[01:20] <podge> flankk: Does it happen when you compile other big programs?
[01:20] <felis> does anyone know have the ogre/cegui/cg packages by Matt Galvin are coming along?
[01:21] <Seveas> flankk, agreed, invluntary shutdown aren't quite the stable behaviour, does it happen at the same point every time..?
[01:21] <flankk> Seveas, i'd have to check the logs
[01:21] <preglow> are anyone aware of any bugs in ubuntu hoary gdb for x86-64?
[01:22] <Seveas> preglow, search the bugzilla :)
[01:22] <preglow> did, couldn't find anything
[01:23] <preglow> but i get what looks like differing pointer sizes here
[01:23] <preglow> which is quite insane
[01:24] <flankk> Seveas, gah, logs say ziltch.  i'll pipe the output to a file this time.
[01:24] <flankk> Seveas, see you after the power cycle :|
[01:26] <tiglionabbit> on bugzilla, who should I assign a bug to?
[01:28] <Fikrann> tiglionabbit, if you are just reporting bug, noone.
[01:28] <tiglionabbit> it seems to want me to put someone in...  *tries leaving it blank*
[01:28] <podge> thoreauputic: Much been going on today?
[01:29] <thoreauputic> podge: um...
[01:29] <amichai> how do i get he_IL.UFT-8?
[01:29] <tiglionabbit> oh cool, when I select the component it types someone in there if it's blank
[01:30] <podge> thoreauputic: A bit slow in here tonight.. everyone must be figuring stuff out for themselves..
[01:30] <amichai> anybody?
[01:30] <thoreauputic> podge: I wish ;)
[01:30] <giggsey> does anyone know of a good graphical php editor for ubuntu?
[01:30] <podge> thoreauputic: Do you do any dev work on Linux etc?
[01:31] <tiglionabbit> say, what do you think of my bug?  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11357
[01:31] <ogi_> giggsey, gedit :P
[01:31] <thoreauputic> podge: no, I'm just an ordinary dude ;-)
[01:31] <thoreauputic> podge: My coding is limited to a few bash scripts
[01:34] <giggsey> im looking at GPHPEdit
[01:35] <Fikrann> tiglionabbit, it's slow because it runs dhcpclient3 for all interfaces, useful or not this behaviour might be.
[01:35] <safezone> hi i'm back
[01:36] <tiglionabbit> what's with the splurt of error messages it prints when starting?
[01:36] <safezone> it didn't work
[01:36] <tiglionabbit> and the huge lag when quitting after changing location?
[01:36] <IIIEars> thoreauputic - why are you kidding yourself? - "Ordinary dude.." nah you and a dozen other people make the Ubuntu channel great.
[01:36] <safezone> can u give me the link again
[01:36] <Fikrann> tiglionabbit, and personally, I found laptop-net much better tool
[01:36] <tiglionabbit> oo
[01:36] <martinhj> Fikrann: I have disabled those interfaces I don't use in the different locations I got.. don't think network-admin tries to use dhclient on those
[01:37] <thoreauputic> IIIEars: thanks - well everyone contributes I guess
[01:37] <IIIEars> thoreauputic - you field more questions than any most people.
[01:37] <tiglionabbit> say, is backports.ubuntuforums.org down at the moment?
[01:38] <Fikrann> martinhj, I saw it trying to run dhcpclient on interfaces not existing in the kernel at that moment... but maybe it's simply my setup too unusual for this tool.
[01:39] <martinhj> Fikrann: heh, strange:-)
[01:39] <Fikrann> martinhj, that's why I stopped using it. And it was constantly dropping my default gw information.
[01:40] <tiglionabbit> when I install laptop-net, will it automatically be useful, or do I need to do something?
[01:40] <martinhj> Fikrann: sure that was network-admin itself? not dhclient or something?
[01:40] <mischa> question: how can i disable the startup sound when i enter gnome. i already disabled System->Preferences->Sound-> Sound events-> Logon and Logoff, but that does not help.
[01:40] <tiglionabbit> oo, it popped up a gui with a single checkbox in it
[01:40] <Fikrann> tiglionabbit, you need to edit two files.
[01:41] <tiglionabbit> mischa: tell it not to spawn a sound daemon, on that sound page
[01:41] <tiglionabbit> first tab I believe
[01:41] <Seveas> tiglionabbit, that will not solve it...
[01:42] <tiglionabbit> oh, I see, that's what you're referring to.  um, I don't know then
[01:42] <Seveas> mischa, the drum roll you hear on startup is not part of your user-configuration, but a system-wide setting
[01:42] <IIIEars> thoreauputic - Do you know someone that can tweak an Xchat ispell script to  FAQ URLS to menomics?
[01:42] <tiglionabbit> the drum thing is fun though, don't kill it!  <- *is being silly and unhelpful*
[01:42] <safezone> the link for fix resolution plz
[01:43] <Seveas> mischa, go to system->administration->login screen setup
[01:43] <thoreauputic> IIIEars: I don't even understand the question :)
[01:43] <Seveas> mischa , and look at the accessibility tab
[01:44] <IIIEars> thorthoreauputic - (lol - a little beyond me too.) - I have a nice script that intercepts typos. It should be able to add FAQ URLS by typing the first few characters.
[01:44] <safezone> IIIEars the link for fix resolution plz
[01:44] <Seveas> IIIEars, i have a faq script for xchat...
[01:45] <IIIEars> Display http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:45] <weedar> My USB mic (AK5370) is visible in Kmix, but it doesn't work. Any suggestions?
[01:45] <safezone> ok thanks
[01:46] <IIIEars> thoreuputic - example typing "short:Display" might type the url to adjust resolution.
[01:46] <weedar> Or maybe somebody knows where I should search for help? :)
[01:47] <Seveas> IIIEars, i just type /faq $NICK $id and it displays $NICK: $ANSWER :)
[01:47] <flankk> well, it did it again.
[01:47] <podge> IIIEars: That should be able to be setup with the Auto Replace feature?
[01:48] <IIIEars> Hm - sounds good :) - didn't know you could do that. - do you have the listing?
[01:48] <tiglionabbit> hey, how do I extract something that is .gz, not .tar.gz?
[01:48] <flankk> piped the output to a log, the comp restarted involuntarily.. and the log says nothing about a failure.
[01:48] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: gunzip
[01:49] <mischa> Seveas:tanx very much, that should do it :)
[01:49] <nrl> Cindyy: stop spamming
[01:49] <thoreauputic> tiglionabbit: ie.  gunzip foo.gz
[01:49] <mischa> tiglionabbit: Seveas has the solution :)
[01:49] <IIIEars> podge - google xchat ispell - http://woody.linif.org/pub/xchat/xspell.pl
[01:49] <podge> flankk: It will depend it the output buffer was flushed before the crash..
[01:50] <tiglionabbit> oh.  Coulda sworn I'd said which gunzip a second ago and got nothing.  Worked
[01:50] <podge> flankk: Can you tell what files it was building before the crash?
[01:50] <tiglionabbit> lol, oh, I'd said which ungzip
[01:50] <dna`> i cant get sound to work, and enablding dma doesnt work, and totem doesnt run
[01:51] <flankk> podge, gcc -c -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include  -D__WINESRC__  -DCOM_NO_WINDOWS_H -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -Wall -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -fno-strict-aliasing -gstabs+ -Wpointer-arith  -g -O2 -o htmldoc.o htmldoc.c
[01:51] <flankk> podge, that's last i got, no errors previous.
[01:51] <Seveas> flankk, and did it finish building htmldoc.o?
[01:51] <Seveas> flankk, what happens if you manually compile that file?
[01:51] <flankk> Seveas, let me check
[01:51] <chrissturm> when i have a default ubuntu install, is there a smtp server running on localhost?
[01:52] <Seveas> dna`, dma has nothing to do with sound..
[01:52] <Seveas> chrissturm, yes, postfix
[01:52] <dna`> Seveas, i know, i just listed all the problems in one line
[01:52] <Fikrann> flankk, have you run memtest86 on your machine?
[01:52] <Seveas> dna`, ah ok :)
[01:52] <chrissturm> seveas: does it relay?
[01:52] -Cindyy:#ubuntu- I am Picture -->  wWw.aysu.gen.ms /Cindy.JPG
[01:52] -Cindyy:#ubuntu- I am Picture -->  wWw.aysu.gen.ms /Cindy.JPG
[01:52] -Cindyy:#ubuntu- I am Picture -->  wWw.aysu.gen.ms /Cindy.JPG
[01:52] <flankk> Fikrann, yes.
[01:53] <benjamin1> anyone here using ubuntu colony 1 cd (breezy)?
[01:53] <Seveas> dna`, describe `sound not working', load your motherboards drivers, decribr 'not running'
[01:53] <dna`> whats this? dalnet?
[01:53] <flankk> Fikrann, like i said, i have run many distros, never with this problem.
[01:53] <Fikrann> dna`, if you'd be more specific about your hardware someone might be able to help you.
[01:53] <Seveas> chrissturm, no, it listens only on localhost
[01:53] <Seveas> for cron etc.
[01:54] <dna`> its audigy2zs, its detected, but whenever i play something whatever it is(dvd,mp3,ogg) no sound comes out at all
[01:54] <podge> flankk: Is htmldoc.o there or not?
[01:54] <Fikrann> Can someone please ban this spambot? Cindyy<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:54] <flankk> podge, i am looking. pop a riddalin..
[01:54] <chrissturm> seveas: but can i use the smtp on localhost to send mails to any domain? i have a webapp that needs to send emails, and it wants to use a smtp server at localhost
[01:54] <Seveas> dna`, audigy support is very flaky, there is a complicated solution that you can find on the forums
[01:54] <podge> find . -name htmldoc.o
[01:54] <podge> :)
[01:54] <dna`> i installed xmms, beep, mplayer, xine, gstreamer mad...
[01:54] <Seveas> chrissturm, you will need to configure it
[01:54] <IIIEars> Seveas -  ""   /faq help  "" Doesn't produce a list - D-oh! ;)
[01:55] <Seveas> IIIEars, /faq is part of i script i created ;)
[01:55] <chrissturm> seveas: thx, where can i get started?
[01:55] <Fikrann> dna`, starting from basics, are you sure that you have unmuted all channels?
[01:55] <dna`> Seveas, how come? it always worked on GNU/Linux ;/
[01:55] <Seveas> chrissturm, www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:55] <Gollie> guys - i'm trying to guide a technophobe thru a misconfigured network install on ubuntu (i'm not in front of it myself) he's using a DHCP on road runner - is there a network setup wizard? and if so, where is it off the menu.
[01:55] <Seveas> dna`, hmm, that's what i understood...
[01:55] <IIIEars> Seveas - I'll FAX you a flat soda/beer if you would be generous enough too share it. :)
[01:55] <Seveas> hehe
[01:55] <dna`> Fikrann, yes, but i think its because i have a camera, its detecting it as a sound card too...
[01:56] <flankk> podge, not there
[01:56] <Seveas> IIIEars, i'll share it later, will have to clean up the code a bit ;)
[01:56] <podge> flankk: Okay.. cut and paste that last gcc line.. and run it manually..
[01:56] <Fikrann> flankk, I just had to throw out a laptop memory module, exactly one year and one month after it was bought, because it started corrupting data.
[01:56] <podge> flankk: If your box dies.. then that is the problem..
[01:56] <flankk> Fikrann, lol
[01:57] <flankk> podge, ok
[01:57] <dcraven> Gollie: Not really a "wizard", but there is a GUI at System/Administration/Networking.
[01:57] <IIIEars> Seveas - Take pity on me. (considers begging.)
[01:57] <Fikrann> dna`, then check if your audio player is outputting to right device.
[01:57] <Gollie> found that one - doesn't seem to be helping him - i'll try the shell commands again
[01:58] <IIIEars> only my 5th week using linux believe me i wouldn't kow good code from Fortran.
[01:58] <Fator_Dee> Fikrann: hope there was still warranty on the stick
[01:59] <Fator_Dee> Fikrann: usually they should have more than a year
[01:59] <dna`> Fikrann, i selected the soundcard in xmms for example, and still now sound :(
[01:59] <Fikrann> Fator_Dee, It had one year guarantee
[01:59] <IIIEars> lol - I'll try to adapt the .pl script - this should be fun.
[02:00] <Fator_Dee> Fikrann: strange stick :-o
[02:00] <dcraven> Week 5 already eh IIIEars? Nice to see you still hangin' around :)
[02:00] <Fator_Dee> Fikrann: I wouldn't even buy a memory stick with that much warranty :-p
[02:00] <podge> IIIEars: You are new to Linux.. Don't know how to code.. and are looking at Perl? :) I wish you luck!!
[02:00] <Fikrann> dna`, try another Audigy driver? My Audigy is detected as Classic, doesn't work with that driver, only with Audigy LS.
[02:00] <IIIEars> dcraven - Yep Ubuntu is the best. :)
[02:01] <Fikrann> Fator_Dee, it was purchased as a part of a laptop.
[02:01] <dna`> Fikrann, any idea how i can change the driver?
[02:01] <weedar> Am I correct in assuming that ubuntu uses both oss and alsa at the same time?
[02:01] <Fikrann> rmmod one and insmod another?
[02:01] <IIIEars>  5 weeks = 150 hours on the 'net r about 2 XP reinstalls. - lol
[02:01] <yahalom> how come mplayer is not in the ubuntu repos?
[02:01] <dna`> ah okay
[02:01] <Seveas> yahalom, it is
[02:01] <Seveas> in multiverse
[02:02] <weedar> yahalom: use http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ to get mplayer and other goodies installed :)
[02:03] <yahalom> Seveas, E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[02:03] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: do you have the repositories enabled?
[02:03] <yahalom> weedar, ubuntuguide broke my ubuntu
[02:03] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, yes
[02:03] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: universe and multiverse?
[02:03] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, yes
[02:03] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: did you sudo apt-get update?
[02:03] <flankk> lol
[02:03] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, yes
[02:04] <Fator_Dee> are you sure of both :-|
[02:04] <gnix_oag> hollel
[02:04] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, yes :)
[02:04] <weedar> wow, I just recently installed Kubuntu (ubuntu with KDE) and I followed almost all of the guide with success
[02:04] <Fator_Dee> then it's officially strange
[02:04] <Seveas> yahalom, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/61
[02:04] <Seveas> it's not called mplayer..
[02:04] <UbuntuPenguin> Hello all. Any master of iptables? I require help. Thanks.
[02:04] <Fator_Dee> Seveas: what then :-O
[02:05] <Seveas> Fator_Dee, look at that pastebin url :)
[02:05] <yahalom> Seveas, dont get any of that
[02:05] <yahalom> Seveas, onyl when i had nerim i got that
[02:05] <Seveas> yahalom, apt-cache search mplayer
[02:05] <Balu> Hi everyone
[02:05] <Fator_Dee> Seveas: I thought it would get some package automatically from just mplayer :-|
[02:05] <yahalom> Seveas, ackstein:~$ sudo apt-cache search mplayer
[02:05] <yahalom> mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)
[02:05] <yahalom> avigail@blackstein:~$
[02:05] <yahalom> wow long sorry
[02:06] <Balu> kubuntu did not detect my cdrecorder :(
[02:06] <yahalom> Balu, #kubuntu
[02:06] <ice_1963> lol
[02:06] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: it seems you don't have the right repos or you haven't updated, they should be found
[02:06] <Balu> I wonder if all I need to do is add to the boot... hdc=ide-scsi
[02:06] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: and you don't need sudo with apt-cache
[02:06] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, can i query u my repos?
[02:06] <Balu> yahalom: kubuntu = ubuntu ;) or is the installation different?
[02:06] <tommi^> The laptop team's (leader Matthew Garret) page seems bit outdated. Are there any news from the team?
[02:06] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: put them on some pastebin service
[02:07] <yahalom> ok
[02:07] <Sauron21> hi....is there anyway to change the interface name of eth1(which is my wireless card) to  wlan0 ??
[02:07] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/292631
[02:08] <yahalom> Balu, kde is always different
[02:08] <Fikrann> Sauron21, ifrename
[02:08] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: try without the il.
[02:08] <Youval> Question:  Has anyone had experience with an Intel 915P motherboard?
[02:08] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, us?
[02:09] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: just archive.ubuntu.com etc etc
[02:09] <podge> IIIEars: xspell.pl crashes my x-chat.. :(
[02:09] <Seveas> IIIEars, grab these files http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/faq.py http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/faq.dat and put them in ~/.xchat/
[02:10] <Seveas> IIIEars, then do /py load faq.py
[02:10] <Seveas> it will be auto-loaded from the next start of xchat on
[02:11] <Balu> yahalom: cdrecord ist not kde
[02:11] <Balu> :)
[02:11] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, same
[02:12] <podge> Only $188 (AUD) for Microsoft Office Student and Teacher Edition... too much? :)
[02:12] <Fator_Dee> well I'll be damned :-\
[02:12] <ys76> Balu: But k3b is
[02:12] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, i'm telling u i never got it without nerim
[02:12] <Balu> ys76: the problem is on console level, not a kde app
[02:12] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: but that's just... unbelievebla
[02:12] <Fator_Dee> *ble
[02:12] <Balu> cdrecord -scanbus tells me that "No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver."
[02:13] <Echelon-H> how can I unzip a rar?
[02:13] <yahalom> Balu, sorry man. i thought kde wanst detecting ur cdrom
[02:13] <Balu> nah :)
[02:13] <Seveas> Echelon-H, sudo aptitude install unrar-nonfree
[02:13] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, so what do i  do ?: )
[02:13] <Seveas> and use unrar e [rarfile]
[02:13] <Echelon-H> Seveas, what's nonfree?
[02:13] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: you sure you searched for mplayer-386 or some other?
[02:13] <ys76> Balu: Try cdrecord -dev=ATAPI: -scanbus
[02:13] <Seveas> Echelon-H, non-open-source
[02:13] <Seveas> but it works :)
[02:13] <Fikrann> podge, that's $180 more than I'd pay for product from One Microsoft Way.
[02:13] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: like mplayer-k7 mplayer-586 etc
[02:13] <Echelon-H> and what's aptitude?
[02:13] <Echelon-H> why not apt-get install?
[02:14] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: whatever your processor is
[02:14] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, E: Couldn't find package mplayer-386
[02:14] <Seveas> aptitude is better :)
[02:14] <Balu> ys76: no result either :(
[02:14] <Echelon-H> Seveas, can you explain why?
[02:14] <IIIEars> Hi Echelon-H
[02:14] <yahalom> E: Couldn't find package mplayer-k7
[02:14] <Echelon-H> IIIEars, hi
[02:14] <yahalom> E: Couldn't find package mplayer-586
[02:14] <r0d> I recently upgrade apps w/ synaptic and rebooted. after that synaptic and apt-get dont work. when using apt-get i get 'segmentation fault
[02:14] <thoreauputic> yahalom: your sources are wrong
[02:14] <Balu> ok, I'll try to load some ide-scsi at boot... we'll see if that helps
[02:14] <yahalom> thoreauputic, in what way? these are what i got with my new install
[02:14] <Balu> later
[02:15] <ys76> Balu: There is a readme about ATAPI-Drives and cdrecord - somewhere
[02:15] <Seveas> aptitude does more administration to facilitate things like uninstalling
[02:15] <ogi_> yahalom, that's the reason
[02:15] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: enable multiverse?
[02:15] <Seveas> read the docs to find the details ;)
[02:15] <Echelon-H> Seveas, oh.
[02:15] <thoreauputic> yahalom: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:15] <thoreauputic> yahalom: you need universe and multiverse
[02:15] <yahalom> Fator_Dee, i just enabled whatever was there
[02:16] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: gah, I didn't see you did'nt have multiverse there :-|
[02:16] <Fikrann> r0d, you got installation errors while installing with Synaptic, didn't you.
[02:16] <thoreauputic> yahalom: add the word "multiverse" to your universe lines
[02:17] <yahalom> thanx
[02:17] <thoreauputic> then sudo apt-get update
[02:17] <r0d> Fikrann, some that it couldnt find certain servers
[02:17] <Echelon-H> how can I do locate that it will show me a path only when it found something?
[02:18] <Seveas> Echelon-H, huh? slocate does that....
[02:18] <Seveas> or do you mean something else??
[02:18] <Echelon-H> Seveas, how can i uninstall after i'm doing aptitude? is there a "better" uninstall?
[02:18] <Fikrann> r0d, while installing, not downloading.
[02:18] <IIIEars> lol - just munged that .pl script comepletly - rofl
[02:18] <Seveas> sudo aptitude purge :)
[02:18] <r0d> Fikrann, while installing yea
[02:19] <Seveas> IIIEars, have you seen my faqscript already..?
[02:19] <Tallia1> HI! do u know a good p2p program for ubuntu?
[02:19] <IIIEars> No. - Can i?
[02:19] <Seveas> it's python, so better readable than perl ;)
[02:19] <Seveas> IIIEars, grab these files http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/faq.py http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/faq.dat and put them in ~/.xchat/
[02:19] <Seveas> IIIEars, then do /py load faq.py
[02:19] <podge> perl rocks.. :)
[02:19] <Seveas> it will be auto-loaded from the next start of xchat on
[02:19] <Seveas> perl is evil
[02:19] <IIIEars> Outstanding! Thank You.
[02:19] <Seveas> python is better :)
[02:20] <podge> haha.. but where was python when perl was first around? :)
[02:20] <Seveas> not invented yet, but if you go that way, use fortran...
[02:20] <podge> Seveas: Go assembly even.. :)
[02:21] <podge> Seveas: I didn't know perl until I started my current job about 5 years ago..
[02:21] <r0d> Fikrann,  so am i screwed?
[02:21] <Seveas> podge, by that time, python was 4 years old ;)
[02:22] <Fikrann> r0d, by not paying attention to warnings, yes.
[02:23] <Fikrann> podge, I must say that I've seen perl programs far less readable than anything you can do in assembly.
[02:23] <r0d> Fikrann, um its not like i could say yes or no.
[02:23] <bigfoot> i have python2.3-fuse, should i delete that and instead install python2.4-fuse?
[02:23] <IIIEars> New toys! :) - bbl
[02:24] <podge> Fikrann: No arguments there.. :)
[02:24] <podge> Seveas: I do need to learn python.. It is going to be bigger than Perl one day..
[02:24] <egg|-_-> python,ruby,lua ...
[02:24] <egg|-_-> toys
[02:24] <Seveas> podge, indeed, it's better so eventually it will be bigger ;
[02:24] <Seveas> ;)
[02:25] <Seveas> podge, sudo aptitude install diveintopython
[02:25] <Seveas> :)
[02:25] <egg|-_-> java would be dead
[02:26] <egg|-_-> that's all
[02:26] <chrissturm> yeah, lets discuss what language is the best :P
[02:26] <egg|-_-> perl
[02:26] <egg|-_-> perl + shell scripts
[02:26] <chrissturm> i was kidding
[02:26] <thoreauputic><PHONE_NUMBER>1111000011111
[02:26] <egg|-_-> + console tools
[02:26] <Seveas> 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 00110001 00110011 00110011 00110111
[02:27] <podge> Seveas: Good point..
[02:27] <Seveas> :)
[02:27] <Zambba> in
[02:27] <Seveas> 70 6f 69 6e
[02:28] <egg|-_-> firefox culculator  souks
[02:31] <Zambba> Hello, my friends Grub is somehow borken.. there is Windows on menu.lst but while booting the Grub doesn't appear.. :S
[02:31] <Zambba> broken*
[02:31] <bigfoot> to anybody with an answer: i have python2.3-fuse, should i delete that and instead install python2.4-fuse?
[02:31] <Seveas> Zambba, so it boots straight into linux?
[02:32] <bigfoot> is 2.4 an upgrade +
[02:32] <bigfoot> ?
[02:32] <Seveas> bigfoot, default python in hoary is 2.4, so yes install python2.4-fuse
[02:33] <othernoob> hey, i'm having problems booting xp.. it appears in grub, but when i choose it i get a "virus: bootsector writing Y/N" message and can't do anything but reboot. menu.lst is configured properly.
[02:33] <bigfoot> Seveas, thanks. How come my Ubuntu CD had 2.3 installed instead?
[02:33] <Seveas> is that a warty cd?
[02:34] <Fikrann> bigfoot, Python 2.4 is somewhat different from 2.3, it's different release, so no, it's not a simple upgrade.
[02:34] <Seveas> othernoob, sounds like you have either installed a very intrusive virus scanner or a virus
[02:34] <bigfoot> Seveas, should i install 2.4 first, then uninstall 2.3 next? or can i do both at the same time (in synaptic)? The CD i used was the one from shipit.ubuntu.org. It's Ubunut version 5.04.
[02:34] <bigfoot> Fikrann, what then must be done?
[02:35] <Seveas> you can have both python2.4 and python2.3 installed at the same time
[02:35] <Fikrann> yes, you can have both.
[02:35] <bigfoot> seveas, what benefit is there of having 2.3 if you have 2.4? doesn't 2.4 do everything that 2.3 can, except better and maybe more?
[02:36] <bigfoot> do you guys have both installed?
[02:36] <Seveas> you can remove 2.3 too
[02:36] <bigfoot> is that what you recommend?
[02:36] <Seveas> i have removed it
[02:36] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: odd: i have Hoary and `python -V` says Python 2.4.1
[02:36] <othernoob> Seveas: kinda unlikely, i uninstalled kubuntu 2 days because i followed some guys advice on how to remove gnome, which led me to have a 640*480 screen res in kde. so i uninstalled it and installed it again just like before.. and before, xp and grub were having no problems.
[02:36] <capi> how do I reinstall a package with apt-get?
[02:36] <othernoob> 2 days ago *
[02:37] <thoreauputic> capi: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[02:37] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, hi. i did  python -V just now and it says 2.4.1, as well. But in synaptic python2.4-fuse is not installed. I'm confused.
[02:38] <Seveas> othernoob, in that case: i have no idea
[02:38] <othernoob> :/
[02:38] <bigfoot> if a program's instructions says "make sure that you have python 2.3 installed," does this mean "python 2.3 or 2.4"?
[02:39] <Seveas> bigfoot, no, that means 2.3
[02:39] <Seveas> if it says 2.3 or higher, it means 2.3 or 2.4
[02:39] <hans_> how con i extract a splitted rar archive?
[02:39] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: erm, why not install  python2.4-fuse from the universe repo?
[02:39] <bigfoot> seveas, how come python -V says 2.4.1, but synaptic shows python2.4-fuse is uninstalled? Are they not the samet thing?
[02:40] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: evidently not
[02:40] <Seveas> bigfoot, no
[02:40] <featheredfrog> Anyone got a mind for a question?
[02:40] <Seveas> python2.4-fuse is a module for python 2.4
[02:40] <Seveas> python2.3-fuse is a module for python 2.3
[02:40] <Fikrann> othernoob, try booting some recovery CD and run a virus check on your windoze partition.
[02:40] <Seveas> featheredfrog, read the first part of the topic...
[02:40] <bigfoot> i have mind, but i may not have an answer featheredfrog. 8-) i'm a newbie.
[02:40] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: apt-cache show  python2.4-fuse
[02:41] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, i just finished getting 2.4fuse via synaptic, do i still need to do: apt-cache show  python2.4-fuse?
[02:41] <othernoob> Fikrann: i hardly ever use XP and XP is not connected to the internet.. and there are just like 5 progs installed..
[02:41] <featheredfrog> okay okay.  IBM TP 600x (pIII, 128M) attempting to boot the live CD (5.04), goes okay until "starting GNOME", where it hangs.  Ideas?
[02:41] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: only if you want to know what it is and why it is different from python 2.4.1 :)
[02:42] <bigfoot> thoreauputic, i did it. Do you want to see the results? Shall i post it in flood?
[02:42] <Fikrann> othernoob, do you have "makeactive" command in your menu.lst?
[02:42] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: no - I thought it might be informative, that's all :)
[02:42] <bigfoot> okay.
[02:42] <Seveas> featheredfrog, try switching to other virtual terminals with <alt><f1> to <alt><f7> to see error messages...
[02:42] <othernoob> Fikrann yes
[02:42] <capi> apt-get --reintsll is getting me a `E: Invalid operation..'
[02:43] <Fikrann> othernoob, remove it and try again.
[02:43] <Seveas> --reinstall
[02:43] <othernoob> Fikrann: the menu.lst looks just like it used to before i uninstalled and reinstalled kubuntu
[02:43] <Seveas> and it's apt-get install --reinstall
[02:43] <thoreauputic> capi: um ... " --reinstall "
[02:43] <Seveas> please READ what people type...
[02:43] <featheredfrog> seveas:  thanks: good idea (I shulda thunk of that...)
[02:43] <featheredfrog> thanks
[02:43] <capi> yeah, I know, I just typoed. I was using --reinstall
[02:43] <featheredfrog> 1
[02:44] <thoreauputic> capi: apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[02:44] <Fikrann> othernoob, you seem to have annoyingly aggressive bios boot sector protection, then.
[02:44] <thoreauputic> capi: noter the "install"
[02:44] <bigfoot> Which files/packages are the "Python Fuse bindings"?
[02:44] <thoreauputic> *note
[02:44] <capi> got it
[02:44] <othernoob> heh Asus board..
[02:45] <Seveas> othernoob, (ping) idea!
[02:45] <othernoob> oO
[02:45] <Seveas> comment out all the savedefault lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:45] <podge> Seveas: Did I say that Perl rocks? :)
[02:47] <morita> hola soy venezolana!!!
[02:47] <Seveas> morita, we speak english in here
[02:47] <morita> ok....
[02:47] <bigfoot> A Program's instructions tell me that I need to have "python fuse bindings". Is this the python2.3-fuse and python2.4-fuse files?
[02:47] <we2by> hola morita
[02:47] <morita> where are you from?
[02:47] <othernoob> Seveas: including the savedefault lines for linux ?
[02:48] <morita> hola d dond eres
[02:48] <Fikrann> bigfoot, both. Install both and you'll be sure.
[02:48] <Seveas> bigfoot, if you want to use python2.4, you need the 2.4-fuse modules, same for 2.3
[02:48] <we2by> Soy de Europa
[02:48] <we2by> y tu?
[02:48] <Seveas> othernoob, try it :)
[02:48] <morita> q bien venezolana...
[02:48] <Seveas> we2by, please stick to english or talk in #ubuntu-es
[02:48] <we2by> bien, tienes algunas problema con Ubuntu?
[02:48] <we2by> ok
[02:49] <we2by> Seveas, tiene que chatiar en #ubuntu-es, aqio se hablan el ingle solo
[02:49] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: this is why I suggested apt-cache show ; quote >> Description: Python bindings for FUSE (Filesystems in USErland)
[02:49] <Seveas> we2by, i do not speak spanish, like most of the people here
[02:49] <spity> anyone knows what's broken on g++ in breezy?
[02:49] <Seveas> so please stick to english in here
[02:49] <Seveas> spity, ROFL!
[02:49] <we2by> Seveas, wrong nick there.
[02:50] <morita> bueno si... no puedo escuchar mp3!!!
[02:50] <spity> Seveas: yes?
[02:50] <mimosita> hola
[02:50] <Seveas> spity, there is a major c++ transition going on...
[02:50] <mos> my mouse no go
[02:50] <Seveas> so a lot of c++ things are broken atm
[02:50] <mimosita> en espaol
[02:50] <Fikrann> spity, nothin, as far as I can tell, it works well for me.
[02:50] <morita> ayudame en  eso!!
[02:50] <mimosita> porfavor
[02:50] <spity> Seveas: i know, but i wonder about g++ not about libraries
[02:50] <Seveas> mimosita/morita #ubuntu-es
[02:50] <othernoob> Seveas: gonna try it now
[02:50] <mos> wheres the config file will allyour driver settings and stuff?
[02:50] <spity> Fikrann: ok
[02:50] <Seveas> mos /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:51] <mos> thanks
[02:51] <Seveas> mos, serial mouse?
[02:51] <mos> :)
[02:51] <mos> Seveas, yeah
[02:51] <Fikrann> spity, but listdc++ from Breezy is giving problems .. OO.org crashes on it.
[02:51] <Seveas> mos, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:51] <bigfoot> i need to "grab a CVS version" of a file. How do i do that?
[02:51] <Fator_Dee> are we going to see some general speed enhancements on programs with breezy?
[02:51] <Seveas> mos, skip through all questions until you reach the mouse questions
[02:51] <mos> Seveas, thanks
[02:51] <morita> i can't listen to mp3...how do do???
[02:52] <morita> help me!!!
[02:52] <Seveas> make sure mouseport is set to /dev/ttys0 (com1) or /dev/ttys1 (com2)
[02:52] <Seveas> morita: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[02:52] <Fikrann> bigfoot, cvs -z3 -d<EMAIL_ADDRESS>co foobar
[02:53] <mos> Seveas, er how do i tab to the text in xchat???????
[02:53] <spity> Fikrann: hmm, i've tried building part of KDE's SVN and it seems there are some strange bugs that were not present before transition - like keybindings not working
[02:53] <mos> dumm x chat
[02:53] <morita> ya t vi luisa!! :-)
[02:53] <Seveas> mos, hmm??
[02:53] <mos> Seveas, i mean i want to copy paste your words
[02:53] <bigfoot> Fikrann, i need some step-by-step help. Can you help a newbie?
[02:53] <mos> Seveas, with no mouse
[02:53] <Seveas> hmm, good one
[02:54] <bigfoot> the webpage's instructions are too technical for me, you see, Fikrann.
[02:54] <mos> lol
[02:54] <Seveas> no idea actually
[02:54] <thoreauputic> mos: highlight,, middle mouse button to paste
[02:54] <thoreauputic> mos: ah, no mouse, sorry
[02:54] <capi> I'm confused, both apt-get remove <deb> && apt-get install <deb> OR apt-get install --reinstall <deb> don't seem to do anything to the package?
[02:54] <mos> Seveas, xchats dum as
[02:54] <mos> Seveas, worse than all irc's ive used
[02:54] <Seveas> mos, shall i re-type it in a private message so it will no scroll away?
[02:54] <Fikrann> spity, I don't know. Are you certain it's not caused by missing dependency libs?
[02:55] <mos> Seveas, na i can page up
[02:55] <morita> please, i can't listen mp3.....
[02:55] <Seveas> morita: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[02:55] <Seveas> read that
[02:55] <Rebroad> I have a kernel compilation question - is this the right channel to ask it please?
[02:55] <mos> Seveas, thanks though
[02:55] <Fator_Dee> mos: just click three times in succession to copy the whole line
[02:55] <Seveas> Rebroad, yes
[02:55] <thoreauputic> capi: if you need to remove the configuration, use apt-get remove --purge <package>
[02:55] <Fikrann> bigfoot, if your progam readme does not state how to get things out of cvs, I can't help.
[02:55] <ubermonzie> hi all fellow Human Linux Users!
[02:55] <Fikrann> Rebroad, fire away.
[02:55] <Fator_Dee> mos: or 2 times to copy a word
[02:56] <spity> Fikrann: no, the environment is the same as before the transition began - dependency libs wise
[02:56] <we2by> my damn firefox does not cache webpages
[02:56] <bigfoot> Fikrann, it does, but i don't understand it. 8-(. coz i'm a newbie.
[02:56] <Seveas> Fator_Dee, with no mouse...?
[02:56] <Rebroad> Seveas, thanks. Well, I'm wanting to compile the ubuntu linux kernel. I've configured it to use my existing config, so I was expecting the compiled kernel to behave in the exact same way as the kernel it's currently using, but it doesn't. The size is different, I have no initrd.img file, and it's unable to boot!
[02:56] <Fikrann>  /query me and paste the relevant section, then.
[02:56] <Zambba> Seveas: Yes it boots straight to linux
[02:56] <Zambba> sorry for "lag" i was afk
[02:57] <thoreauputic> bigfoot: newbie and CVS probably should not appear in the same sentence ;)
[02:57] <Rebroad> Seveas, it was giving a VFS error I think, when I tried to boot. Kernel panic, unable to mount block 0,0 or something like that.
[02:57] <mimosita> en espaollllllllllllllllllllllllll
[02:57] <Seveas> Rebroad, did you use the ubuntu sources? you should make an initrd manually, without initrd a kernel with modules cannot boot
[02:57] <capi> thoreauputic: that doesn't seem to do anything either, Some of the packages vital files got removed, and now I'm trying to install the package all over again? What do I use for this?
[02:57] <Seveas> Zambba, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and increase the timeout
[02:58] <bigfoot> but if "thoreauputic" OR "experienced" were added to the sentence, we can get some magic!
[02:58] <Fator_Dee> Seveas: well, duh :-|
[02:58] <Fikrann> thoreauputic, Well, sometimes newbies need to get their software out of cvs, too.
[02:58] <thoreauputic> capi: how did those files get removed?
[02:58] <Rebroad> Seveas, I see.. the kernel source package didn't mention how I create the initrd.img file. Do you know how I create this file please?
[02:58] <Seveas> Rebroad, use make-kpkg to compile the kernel, you can find it in the package: kernel-package
[02:58] <Rebroad> Seveas,  thanks
[02:59] <Seveas> that will create a .deb fil with your new kernel
[02:59] <Seveas> you can easily install that one
[02:59] <Fikrann> :dislikes initrd.
[02:59] <mos> Fator_Dee, thanks  but i need to do it with the kebord i have no mouse
[02:59] <capi> thoreauputic: I'm not sure, someone else did it, I believe the rm or shred command
[02:59] <thoreauputic> capi: :(
[03:00] <Rebroad> Seveas, cool.
[03:00] <capi> thoreauputic: I feel the same way, so is there any way to install the package again like it's the first time?
[03:00] <l0de> hey guys
[03:01] <l0de> is ubunto better than dual boot gentoo?
[03:01] <thoreauputic> capi: I don't really know: I've never been in your situation - maybe someone else can help
[03:01] <Fikrann> capi, use L command in aptitude.
[03:01] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: no it wouldn't
[03:01] <l0de> ubermonzie wonders does not make sense in that sentence?
[03:01] <l0de> you are making a declarative statement?
[03:01] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: the size of the cd would rise up
[03:01] <Seveas> ubermonzie, kubuntu and ubuntu ARE a single distro
[03:01] <Seveas> exactly the same packages are available
[03:01] <Rebroad> Seveas, would you know an easy way to test my new kernel without me having to reboot?!
[03:02] <Seveas> it's just a different set of default packages
[03:02] <Fator_Dee> Seveas: he mebbe meant that on the same cd? (misunderstanding?)
[03:02] <Seveas> Rebroad, no, rebooting is the test
[03:02] <capi> Fikrann, what do I want to do in aptitude after the L command?
[03:02] <Fikrann> capi, this marks the package for reinstallation.
[03:02] <srid> keybindings for gnome apps is broken in Ubuntu Breezy!
[03:02] <srid> how to fix this??
[03:02] <Rebroad> Seveas, I have another PC with no harddisk. could I boot the new kernel via NFS or something on the other PC?
[03:03] <Seveas> Rebroad, no idea...
[03:03] <othernoob> Seveas: i still got the message "Boot Sector Writing: Virus: Continue Y/N) but could choose Y, and it booted xp
[03:03] <ubermonzie> but dear Seveas, are they on two different cds/iso images?
[03:03] <ubermonzie> Dont you have to download them seperateley..
[03:03] <thoreauputic> othernoob: how appropriate! :D
[03:03] <othernoob> lol
[03:03] <ubermonzie> Still does not do the work for me
[03:04] <ubermonzie> KDE and GNOME both have their uses
[03:04] <othernoob> looks like it screwed the mbr when i installed kubuntu again.
[03:04] <bigfoot> i tried running cvs, but bash says that the command is not found.
[03:04] <Rebroad> Seveas, erk.. I'm running make-kpkg and it's recompiling everything again... :-s
[03:04] <Seveas> ubermonzie, you can download the dvd :)
[03:04] <Fikrann> Rebroad, I'm not sure if setting up tftpd would be exactly the fastest way to test your kernel. Not to mention that the kernel needs to be specially tailored to run via netboot.
[03:04] <ubermonzie> I am working on a rural project here..
[03:04] <linukso> Hi! I'm trying out xorg composite (drop shadows and transparency), but only transparency works. If I run xcompmgr -c, I have to reboot my computer. Has anyone else experinced this? (nvidia card)
[03:05] <Rebroad> Fikrann, hehe. you're probably right, but it would be nice to have a test environment for my kernel compilations such that it doesn't impinge on my currently running environment.
[03:05] <Seveas> well, it's impossible to put both kubuntu-default and ubuntu-default on 1 cd
[03:05] <ubermonzie> and i am trying to tune Ubuntu specifically for rural purposes including regional language support etc
[03:05] <Seveas> it's simply too much
[03:05] <ubermonzie> Ya i kno
[03:05] <ubermonzie> the ads should try a 2 cd set instead
[03:05] <Fikrann> Rebroad, grub makes rebooting to new kernels easy
[03:05] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: you can install kde on ubuntu with `sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop`
[03:06] <ubermonzie> and containing all the multimedia files like libdvdcss etc
[03:06] <ubermonzie> i know thoreauputic
[03:06] <ubermonzie> but i want to implement a rural soln here
[03:06] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: that's not possible ( libdvdcss etc) for legal reasons
[03:06] <ubermonzie> why?
[03:07] <ubermonzie> i downloaded it and i am using it now
[03:07] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: they are illegal in some countries
[03:07] <capi> Fikrann, what exactly is the L command, CTRL-L?
[03:07] <bigfoot> anybody know of a better alternative to flickr.com? I like flickr.com, but it shrinks images. And if i want to download my pictures from flickr.com, it's not the original file size/quality. What do you all recommend?
[03:07] <Rebroad> Fikrann, for instance, I'd like to compile and test kernels, while still doing other things, such as web browsing, or downloading Star Wars Episode 3, etc.
[03:07] <ubermonzie> how do i know whether it is legal in my country or not: India
[03:08] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: you'd have to study your countrys legislation (is that the proper word for it :-p)
[03:08] <ubermonzie> I have tried convincing friends to use linux, but nobody here would use an OS that cannot play videos
[03:08] <crimsun> ubermonzie: check with a councillor in your jurisdiction
[03:08] <ubermonzie> thanks crimsun and Fator_Dee
[03:09] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: and it's easy to set up ubuntu to play all videos you usually encounter
[03:09] <UbuntuPenguin> Any man for help with iptables?
[03:10] <ubermonzie> No it isnt , Fator_Dee. Ubuntu was not able to play most of my Videos and none of my mp3's by default
[03:10] <ubermonzie> May i help UbuntuPenguin?
[03:10] <thoreauputic> UbuntuPenguin: umm - "man iptables" ?
[03:10] <crimsun> ubermonzie: there are various restrictions on patented technology in many countries
[03:11] <thoreauputic> UbuntuPenguin: did you even try it?
[03:11] <mimosita> luisa respondeme
[03:11] <Luisita> que quieres que te diga?
[03:11] <ubermonzie> hmm
[03:11] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: not by default no, but it takes <15min to set it up to play them
[03:11] <mimosita> hi please
[03:12] <mimosita> a need youuuuuuuuu
[03:12] <ubermonzie> then the point is crimsun, that i will find it very difficult to push through my Ubuntu-Rural project.
[03:12] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: you could make your own add-on cd with all the packages=
[03:12] <ubermonzie> Multimedia is one of the main draws that convince a user to switch from closed source to open source
[03:12] <ubermonzie> I have made that Fator_Dee
[03:13] <ubermonzie> Now i am currently trying to fit all of that on a single cd
[03:13] <son_of_jd> what is breezy?
[03:13] <ubermonzie> removing sendmail, postfix etc..
[03:13] <Fator_Dee> but it's just not possible on canonical's side, ubuntu can't be illegal to be distributable
[03:13] <ubermonzie> breezy is the new Ubuntu release son_of_jd
[03:13] <son_of_jd> oh
[03:14] <ubermonzie> the guys aere still working on it
[03:14] <son_of_jd> oh
[03:14] <capi> nope, aptitude didn't do a thing either. :\
[03:14] <ubermonzie> but i have check if it's legal from my side.. Fator_Dee
[03:15] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: someone tried to distribute a CD with all extras, but had to stop
[03:15] <Rebroad> Seveas, thanks for your help. I've now installed the deb package it created, but it doesn't appear to have created an additional initrd.img file...
[03:16] <dr_willis> thoreauputic,  you mean that ubuntu add-on cd?
[03:16] <Fator_Dee> thoreauputic: I think it was the ubuntuguide guy, but I don't think that ubermonzie is going to distribute it over the internet
[03:16] <thoreauputic> dr_willis: yes
[03:16] <dr_willis> thoreauputic,  heh - its handy :P
[03:16] <ubermonzie> Hoary is one of the cleanest, smallest Linuxes around, but from my point of view.. it needs some major changes to be successfull in Linux-Crazy India
[03:16] <thoreauputic> Fator_Dee: quite so - for local use he may not have any problems
[03:17] <Aquarion> Anyone got Fuse working on ubuntu?
[03:17] <Fator_Dee> thoreauputic: and no one has to know (don't get caught :-p)
[03:17] <ubermonzie> but thoreauputic, if i put it up on a site hosted in India (assuming its legal here)....
[03:17] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: unfortunately, some of the things you want from ubuntu are not currently possible
[03:18] <alexmacy> hi
[03:18] <Fator_Dee> thoreauputic: but I think there are a lot of able programmers on India :-)
[03:18] <ubermonzie> and someone from say , the US downloads it, it's not my fault, isnt it?
[03:18] <ubermonzie> why thoreauputic?
[03:18] <ubermonzie> i am an RHCE thoreauputic!
[03:18] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: yes it's their fault, atleast I have undestood so
[03:18] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: I think you would still run into issues with mp3 etc ( but I am not a lawyer) :)
[03:18] <ubermonzie> hmm
[03:19] <dr_willis> go ask ebay about all these 'its not our fault' lawsuits. :P
[03:19] <ubermonzie> say..some freaky russian sites?
[03:19] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: but you would just have to be very carefull on what you are going to put to be downloaded to be safe
[03:19] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: I didn't mean you couldn't do things :) Just that Canonical have legal stuff to worry about...
[03:20] <ubermonzie> i want a one-cd linux for poor people, most of whom will be using the computer for the first time
[03:20] <ubermonzie> and most of them dont know english
[03:20] <ubermonzie> so that's why i was asking som many ques...
[03:20] <Rebroad> ubermonize: you'd need a notice on your sight informing people that it may be illegal for them to download it, and that it's up to them to ensure it is legal before clicking on download.
[03:20] <morita> i come back..
[03:21] <Fator_Dee> quite a project to translate all of ubuntu :-o
[03:21] <ubermonzie> thanks Rebroad, but i plan on burining and distrubuting the cd's freely first
[03:21] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: what you are doing sounds great by the way : I wish you well !
[03:22] <jansen> anyone freei wanna compile the kernel but some errors!
[03:22] <ubermonzie> thanks thoreauputic, i will probably use GNOME... but i guess XFCE is the better choice
[03:22] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: maybe you could ask some information from canonical or some ubuntu developers directly?
[03:22] <ubermonzie> #linux is better for this dear jansen
[03:22] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: Xfce is smaller, I guess - and better on old machines
[03:22] <ubermonzie> ya .... i know thoreauputic
[03:22] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: or icewm maybe?
[03:23] <jansen> ubermonzie i'm using the ubuntu
[03:23] <ubermonzie> i thought most of you people were developers of Ubuntu, dear, Fator_Dee.
[03:23] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: I know you know :) Just agreeing
[03:23] <ubermonzie> :-)
[03:23] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: no, not at all, atleast I'm not :-D
[03:23] <jansen> ubermonzie linux :That channel doesn't exist
[03:23] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: no, this is the help channel
[03:23] <UbuntuPenguin> thoreauputic: i reading man pages and tutorials and not work ;-(( from morning...
[03:23] <Fator_Dee> ubermonzie: I just like to hang out in here and help people if I can
[03:23] <ubermonzie> it does dear
[03:24] <thoreauputic> jansen: there is a developers channel
[03:24] <ubermonzie> I too like helping people.. but at a more grassroots level.
[03:24] <Fikrann> ubermonzie, I'd suggest Gnome + Openbox instead of metacity.
[03:25] <ubermonzie> in a poor but rapidly developing like india,,, its important to use OpenSource
[03:25] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: if you are a developer, have you tried the developers mailing list?
[03:25] <jansen> thoreauputic that channel not exist!
[03:25] <ubermonzie> OpenBox.. will surely try it.. thanks Fikrann
[03:25] <ubermonzie> no .. thoreauputic
[03:25] <UbuntuPenguin> ubermonzie, have you time for my for helping with iptables?
[03:25] <thoreauputic> jansen: I'm sorry to contradict you yet again, but I'm in it right now
[03:25] <ubermonzie> this is the first time i am discussing it
[03:26] <medkit> what is the default passphrase for cups on localhost? It does not accept my usual account?
[03:26] <ubermonzie> i was fiddlng with it all alone!
[03:26] <luxo_> fikrann: what do you think abot fluxbox with gnome-panel?
[03:26] <thoreauputic> jansen: #ubuntu-devel on this server
[03:26] <Fikrann> medkit, it needs your root password.
[03:27] <medkit> it has got it, but does not accept it
[03:27] <jansen> thoreauputic thx
[03:27] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: there is also a users mailing list with quite a few knowledgeable people
[03:27] <ubermonzie> Its tough dealing with customized distributions,, especially on a slow computer like mine
[03:27] <Fikrann> luxo_, I have used such configuration, but gnome-panel by itself is just useless .. I prefer gdesklet for that.
[03:28] <ubermonzie> will surely join it. thanks thoreauputic.. i just thought irc would be a better bet..
[03:28] <ubermonzie> i am too impatient to wait for mails!
[03:28] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: you're welcome any time, of course !
[03:29] <vladimir> any one here have tried to set up a 1280x854 display? I've treid editing xorg.conf and no luck at all
[03:29] <ubermonzie> I may end up using KDE (against my wishes).. as it has really good local lang support
[03:29] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: the response time on the users mailing list is quite fast: it's a high traffic list
[03:29] <dooglus> someone sent me some word documents to proof-read and correct.
[03:29] <ubermonzie> there is an indian Linux project and they have converted the ENTIRE kde 3.3 to various local languages!
[03:29] <dooglus> I thought I'd use open office
[03:29] <ubermonzie> use it dooglus
[03:29] <dooglus> is there "revision control" in openoffice?
[03:30] <thoreauputic> ubermonzie: great stuff !
[03:30] <ubermonzie> its the best
[03:30] <UbuntuPenguin> ubermonzie, is you here?
[03:30] <dooglus> you know in ms-word, how when you make a change, it shows up as a change, so the author can see what you changed
[03:30] <dooglus> can I do that in openoffice?
[03:30] <ubermonzie> ya i am here UbuntuPenguin
[03:30] <ubermonzie> ya its there dooglus
[03:30] <dooglus> ubermonzie: how do you switch it on?
[03:31] <ubermonzie> just a min... dooglus
[03:31] <dooglus> in word theres a small word "REV" at the bottom of the screen
[03:31] <IcemanV9> dooglus: flip the switch!! :P
[03:31] <reka> vladimir, you need to put the 1280 resolution first in the list of resolutions (i.e. leftmost).
[03:31] <Fikrann> dooglus, I believe you will get your answer quicker if you ask on #openoffice.org
[03:31] <UbuntuPenguin> ubermonzie: i have problem with redirecting 80 port from server in internal network to 81 port on my gateway and my iptables not working. ;(((
[03:32] <medkit> What can i do if cups on localhost does not accept my password. I am absolutely positively sure that the passphrase is correct. I have mounted a device 1 minute before with that passphrase. I tried "cups", "admin" and my username.
[03:32] <vladimir> yeah, i've tried that, 1280x854 is the only resolution on the list
[03:32] <pfp> ubermonzie: altough i've read that india is about to allow s/w patents :/ -- http://swpat.ffii.org/log/04/nath12/index.en.html
[03:32] <ubermonzie> thanks pfp... support is the most imp reward of any developer
[03:32] <dooglus> Fikrann: we'll see
[03:32] <dr_willis> medkit,  dosent it want 'root' as the username?
[03:32] <ubermonzie> ya.. sadly yes pfp
[03:32] <St0n3-C0l> anyone using i810 here?
[03:33] <medkit> dr_willis, i'll try
[03:33] <ubermonzie> ask in openoffice room. dear dooglus
[03:33] <dooglus> ubermonzie: I did
[03:33] <Fikrann> vladimir, you need an extra modeline in xorg.conf so your server will know the hardware is capable of unstandard resolution.
[03:33] <reka> vladimir: then your refresh rates are wrong.  google for "resolution fix ubuntu"
[03:34] <pfp> it's a bit hard to understand, since at the same time India's government seems to be promoting linux & OSS
[03:34] <ubermonzie> but at the same time Open source is being adopted by all state goverment to do their E-Gov things
[03:34] <Sauron21> hi...I was wonderinf in anyone could tell me why my network interface returns to eth0 everytime I change it to wlan with ifrename.......??
[03:34] <ubermonzie> and also there are hundred of linux volunteer orgainizations here pfp
[03:34] <medkit> dr_willis, no go with root. Anything else i can try?
[03:34] <pfp> cool
[03:34] <ubermonzie> i am in one of them