[10:38] <dr_willis> N03L:  you did a wubi install 'insidee' windows? ewwww
[10:38] <N03L> As in I didn't go through the manuak process of creating a partition etc. I chose the Install in Windows option
[10:38] <N03L> Yeah.
[10:38] <N03L> Is that bad?
[10:38] <dr_willis> akaWolf:  id check dmesg, see if it mentions the card.
[10:38] <Calinou> yeah; wubi causes people to "eww"
[10:38] <Calinou> with no apparent reason
[10:38] <dr_willis> wubi is ok to play with.  but not a long term solution
[10:38] <akaWolf> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222179/
[10:39] <dr_willis> wubi exploding on updates, upgrades, and other genral failures = ewww
[10:39] <N03L> Oh ok. So if I were to upgrade to the latest Ubunut, it's best if I didn't Wubi it?
[10:39] <N03L> Would that mean I'd have to backup all my files etc.?
[10:39] <dr_willis> i would NOT upgrade a wubi install
[10:39] <N03L> Start from scratch.
[10:39] <dr_willis> you should allready keep backups
[10:39] <blackshirt> i think wubi was for people from windows to try linux on their windows
[10:39] <solsTiCe> so I forgot to check "install mp3 support" during install and totem redfuse to play an aviµ. What do I need to install for it to ork ?
[10:40] <dr_willis> solsTiCe:  depends on the codec of the avi. install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' for a start
[10:40] <solsTiCe> ok
[10:40] <akaWolf> dr_willis: are you can see on log? :)
[10:40] <blackshirt> solstice, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:40] <akaWolf> or to*
[10:40] <akaWolf> =)_
[10:41] <dr_willis> akaWolf:  im on my phone so web surfing is slooooow..
[10:41] <N03L> Okay. SO to make the switch, I would have to uninstal my current Ubunut via Windows (wubi) and then just install the latest Ubuntu?
[10:41] <akaWolf> dr_willis: sorrow...
[10:41] <akaWolf> dr_willis: what are keywords for find in log?
[10:43] <bekks> akaWolf: Can you provide the output of "lsmod|sort" too, please?
[10:43] <dr_willis> akaWolf:  this is a real machine, not a ubuntu install IN a vbox vm
[10:43] <akaWolf> dr_willis: real
[10:43] <akaWolf> bekks: ok
[10:44] <bekks> akaWolf: And please provide the output of "lsb_release -a" too.
[10:44] <dr_willis> had a guy last week trying to acces his wifi card direcltly from inside a vm. ;)
[10:46] <akaWolf> bekks: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20759199/loglsmod.txt
[10:46] <akaWolf> bekks: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20759199/loglsbrelease.txt
[10:46] <akaWolf> dr_willis: fire guys =)
[10:47] <bekks> akaWolf: There is no ath5k loaded at all.
[10:47] <bekks> akaWolf: Fixed. Next. :)
[10:47] <akaWolf> bekks: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20759199/loglspci.txt -- here ath5k
[10:48] <bekks> akaWolf: But there is no ath5k module loaded as you stated.
[10:48] <bekks> akaWolf: Please provide the output of "lsb_release -a" too.
[10:49] <akaWolf> bekks: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20759199/loglsbrelease.txt
[10:49] <bekks> akaWolf: Ubuntu 9.10 isnt supported here for a long time now. Please upgrade to a supported release.
[10:49] <akaWolf> =)))
[10:50] <akaWolf> bekks: thanks :)
[10:51] <dr_willis> been a lot of improvemrnts in wifi since 9.10
[10:52] <L30n0v> hi all
[10:52] <L30n0v> quick question about TOR
[10:52] <akaWolf> bekks: after last update, it has broken sound and a few other things... =)
[10:53] <bekks> akaWolf: Still, 9.10 isnt supported anymore.
[10:53] <L30n0v> when i weak my laptop from sleep i cannot connect to any of th TOR networks
[10:54] <L30n0v> and cannot restart it because it gives me some bs about starting
[10:54] <bekks> L30n0v: "bs"?
[10:54] <L30n0v> yeah, "bulls***"
[10:55] <bekks> L30n0v: Well, without specific error messages, we cant help you.
[10:55] <stefan2_> #svn-dev
[10:56] <L30n0v> to be exact this is the message "Faild to parse/validate config: Faild to bind one of the listener ports"
[10:57] <layke__> If I drop a bash script in /etc/cron.daily/ do I still need to add the cron? Or is everything automatically executed daily?
[10:57] <Marcellus> Hello
[10:57] <blackshirt> hello marcellus
[10:57] <L30n0v> @bekks: also have warning message about /var/tor not owned by my user
[10:57] <Marcellus> I'm having r=trouble playing the Indie game SPAZ
[10:58] <Marcellus> trouble*
[10:58] <blackshirt> marcellus, is that a windows game?
[10:58] <Marcellus> Linux, Mac and WIndows
[10:58] <Marcellus> Part of the Humble Indie Bundle
[10:58] <blackshirt> marcellus, have you installed it correctly on linux?
[10:59] <Marcellus> I read about it in the Ubuntu site
[10:59] <Marcellus> I think I have
[10:59] <Marcellus> I dragged the .bin into Terminal and that created a folder named 'SPAZ'
[11:00] <WarOfTheNerd> Marcellus, why use the binary?
[11:00] <Marcellus> When I try to run the game I get the error:
[11:00] <WarOfTheNerd> use the package instead! :)
[11:00] <Marcellus> lolwut?
[11:00] <Marcellus> I'm a linux noob :/
[11:01] <N03L> I am too
[11:01] <Marcellus> That's the package I got when I bought it
[11:01] <L30n0v> @bekks also this in log: "[Warning] Before Tor can create a control socket in "/var/run/tor/control", the directory "/var/run/tor" needs to exist, and to be accessible only by the user account that is running Tor.  (On some Unix systems, anybody who can list a socket can conect to it, so Tor is being careful.)"
[11:01] <WarOfTheNerd> Marcellus, on the Humble Indie Bundle page use the Ubuntu Software Centre button
[11:01] <N03L> Going to upgrade now. Hope it's worth it.
[11:01] <L30n0v> @bekks and there is that dir
[11:02] <Marcellus> oh, didn't see that, thanks!
[11:02] <L30n0v> @bekks and i gave permission for my user during tor installation
[11:03] <WarOfTheNerd> Marcellus, it's the first thing you should use on newer bundles; though some packages are still broken
[11:03] <WarOfTheNerd> Marcellus, like Bit.Trip Beat is still broken for me from the Android bundle
[11:03] <afidegnum> hello good morning all, pls anyone ever tried connecting a 3G modem to Ubuntu b4? I am having problem here.
[11:04] <afidegnum> I am using Huawei e303
[11:04] <solsTiCe> First time I instllaed, it suggested to install cedar trail drm driver. not this time ? I did not even know what cedar trail is ? some related to intel cpu.
[11:04] <WarOfTheNerd> afidegnum, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2008275
[11:04] <WarOfTheNerd> afidegnum, have you tried this; it's the top google result for Huawei e303 on Ubuntu
[11:06] <afidegnum> WarOfTheNerd: I tried it already and it didn't work
[11:07] <WarOfTheNerd> afidegnum, which Ubuntu version are you on by the way?
[11:08] <afidegnum> WarOfTheNerd: I am using ubuntu 12.04
[11:09] <ade> I have just had apport run and then fail to upload the bug (Bad Gateway), does anyone know if there is a way to find previous errors found by the system so I can resend the bug??
[11:09] <WarOfTheNerd> afidegnum, http://sgolubtsova.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/installing-huawei-hilink-3g-modem.html
[11:09] <solsTiCe> what's the "best" way to install dropbox ? with software center or with deb from dropbox site ?
[11:10] <WarOfTheNerd> afidegnum, those are the manual install steps for if Ubuntu can't do it automatically; it applies to ArchLinux but works mostly for Ubuntu too
[11:10] <afidegnum> WarOfTheNerd: thanks let me try
[11:11] <Stanley00> solsTiCe: I prefer installing via Ubuntu Software Center
[11:11] <WarOfTheNerd> solsTiCe, Ubuntu Software Centre integrates updates/patches for you
[11:12] <WarOfTheNerd> solsTiCe, it also helps guarantee support across releases
[11:12] <WarOfTheNerd> solsTiCe, (because, what it does, is it adds a repo for updates when you install 3rd party apps)
[11:12] <Priyans> Hello, wanted to know why cant I have TinyOS and Arduino Linux IDE installed together on Ubuntu ?
[11:12] <Surio> Hello room, Installed Ubuntu 12.04 desktop using VMWare player 5.0
[11:12] <Surio> Now I am facing a problem with this
[11:13] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, what is the problem? :)
[11:14] <Surio> Thanks @Warofthenerd
[11:14] <layke__> This is fine right? * * * * * root cd /home/ubuntu/ && ./check_mount  >> /var/log/syslog
[11:14] <Surio> The screen resolution flickers during login, and then I am left with wallpaper
[11:14] <layke__> For a crontab
[11:14] <Surio> but neither the icons nor the top menu is shown
[11:14] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, choose Unity 2D from the list on the login screen
[11:15] <akaWolf> bekks: sudo apg-get dist-upgrade?
[11:15] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, you see next to the username there's like a mini Ubuntu logo?   Click it and see if you can pick Unity 2D
[11:15] <Surio> Where exactly do I try it?
[11:15] <Surio> Ahh. OK. Let me try it now. I am starting up
[11:16] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, the reason it's not working so well is because until VMWare Tools is installed; 3D graphics does not work.  Unity needs 3D graphics by default on 12.04, once you've chosen Unity 2D it should work :)
[11:17] <Surio> Whao! Whoa! etc...
[11:17] <Surio> :-) Well whaddya know. It's that simple?
[11:17] <Surio> Thanks. I can see the icons and the top menu now
[11:18] <Surio> But, but, I now have another question
[11:18] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, Ubuntu 12.10 will be out soon; that will fix that issue by using the processor to make 3D if the graphics drivers do not support 3D
[11:18] <Surio> @WarofTheNerd, thanks once again
[11:18] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, what is the question? :)
[11:19] <WarOfTheNerd> (and, you're welcome ^_^)
[11:19] <Surio> You said >> because until VMWare Tools is installed
[11:19] <Surio> But, I did install it.
[11:19] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, maybe the VMWare Tools drivers are broken at the moment.  They seem to be broken on Windows 8
[11:19] <Surio> During the install, I allowed the VMWare player
[11:20] <Surio> to download the Tools for Linux 9.2.0
[11:20] <Surio> Oh, so that's what you reckon?
[11:20] <WarOfTheNerd> Click on Virtual Machine at the top
[11:20] <WarOfTheNerd> does it have 'Install VMWare Tools' as an option?
[11:21] <WarOfTheNerd> or does it say 'Reinstall VMWare Tools' ?
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> Surio  I havent followed, why don't you try virtualbo
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> virtualbox
[11:21] <WarOfTheNerd> MonkeyDust, because VMWare is better for all intents and purposes?
[11:21] <Surio> Funny you mentioned that, because, it did say "reinstall VMWare tools",
[11:22] <Surio> and I looked at it before logging in here, and followed instructions
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> "better"? ok, not starting discussion
[11:22] <mevvis> I play games on vbox-xp, FX4100
[11:22] <Priyans> Hello, wanted to know why cant I have TinyOS and Arduino Linux IDE installed together on Ubuntu ?
[11:22] <Surio> from "http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/11287/how-to-run-ubuntu-in-windows-7-with-vmware-player/"
[11:22] <WarOfTheNerd> MonkeyDust, VirtualBox makes the kernel unsupportable by tainting it
[11:22] <WarOfTheNerd> MonkeyDust, VMWare does not, upstream kernel developers will still support you
[11:23] <Surio> @MonkeyDust, one other reason is that I am used to VMWare, and having used it for running Knoppix LiveCD, it was my default/fallback
[11:24] <WarOfTheNerd> MonkeyDust, advocating use of software that is so bad Linux kernel developers will not support it and Microsoft will ignore bug reports for when it's installed..... tells you a lot
[11:25] <WarOfTheNerd> MonkeyDust, check this out:  https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/10742
[11:26] <Surio_> Sorry guys, we had a poweroutage here. I may have missed some of the earlier chat @Warofthenerd, did you reply to me?
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> WarOfTheNerd  the end goal of life: to be ignored by Microsoft
[11:26] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, 1 sec lemme check
[11:26] <killer_> how can i make pcmanfm my default file manager as nauttilus is acting too slow
[11:27] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio_, that is one old tutorial >_>
[11:27] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio_, if you want Unity to work; try 'sudo apt-get install gnome-panel'
[11:28] <WarOfTheNerd> by Unity I mean VMWare Unity
[11:28] <WarOfTheNerd> (damned choice of names.... )
[11:29] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio_, because VMWare Unity, the thing that lets you have a small menu inside Windows for running just the apps uses GNOME if I remember rightly =]
[11:29] <skraito> hi guys this my music and album http://0x71.org/Music for your ubuntu
[11:29] <skraito> is free
[11:29] <jrib> skraito: this channel is only for ubuntu support, please don't do that again
[11:30] <akis> how can i disable in gnome the option to not open a programm when i insert a usb device (flash disk) or cd/dvd in my pc?
[11:32] <akis> i mean how can i disable usb/cd/dvd auto play?
[11:34] <Surio> Sorry folks.... power outage again... hopefully that's the end
[11:34] <Surio> @Monkeydust, like I said, it was a default option for me, unlike @Warofthenerd, I am not so keenly aware of the nitty-gritty.
[11:34] <Aristide> Hi !
[11:34] <Surio> @Warofthenerd, did you give me any replies since our last discussion?
[11:35] <Surio> Hi Aristide
[11:35] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, none since last outage
[11:35] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio_, VMWare Unity, the thing that lets you have a small menu inside Windows for running just the apps uses GNOME if I remember rightly =]
[11:35] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio_, if you want VMWare Unity to work; try 'sudo apt-get install gnome-panel'
[11:36] <WarOfTheNerd> err and pick GNOME from the list on log in screen
[11:36] <vartotojas_> hey again. any advice how to install new java on my ubuntu?
[11:36] <Surio> OK, so, although VMWare was my fallback due to familiarity, you gave me some pointers on its advantages over virtualbox. Thanks for that
[11:38] <jrib> !java | vartotojas_
[11:38] <akis> i found it. dconf-editor -> org -> gnome -> desktop -> media-handling -> uncheck automount_open
[11:38] <Surio> Again, what was the tip for GNOME for? to have a better UI experience? Because, I seem to have no issues navigating my way around UNITY at present
[11:39] <alessio> !list
[11:40] <Priyans> Hello, wanted to know why am I facing problems to have TinyOS and Arduino Linux IDE installed together on Ubuntu ?
[11:41] <Surio> @Warofthenerd, we were discussing if the Menu reads "Install" or "Reinstall" VMWare tools for Linux
[11:41] <Surio> And for me it says "Reinstall".
[11:41] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, if it says Reinstall, it's all good :)
[11:41] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, it just means that VMWare Tools has broken 3D graphics at the moment
[11:42] <Surio> Also, following the http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/11287/how-to-run-ubuntu-in-windows-7-with-vmware-player/ I reinstalled again
[11:42] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, which to be honest, I've found VMWare Player 5 is broken
[11:42] <Surio> >> it just means that VMWare Tools has broken 3D graphics I got it now!
[11:42] <Surio> I got it now, thanks!
[11:43] <Surio> Aww, sugar. I was on VMWare 4 till today. I updated to ver.5 just this afternoon
[11:43] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, 4 was awesome, but I've had weirdness with 5
[11:43] <spud__> Hello.... I had a /opt partition (on the same this where all the other partitions are) but when I try to mount it, it say it does not exist...
[11:43] <WarOfTheNerd> like paths that do exist being claimed to not exist
[11:43] <WarOfTheNerd> which broke shared folders for me :(
[11:44] <spud__> SMART status says the disk is healthy
[11:44] <Surio> @WOTN, Under the circumstances, Do you think it would be better to revert to release 4 agian?
[11:44] <Surio> again -typo-
[11:44] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, yeah, and try reinstalling Ubuntu from scratch with it
[11:44] <Surio> >> Surio, 4 was awesome
[11:44] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, see if it works any better
[11:44] <Surio> Yea, I agree! :-)
[11:45] <Surio> Nooooooooooo... there goes the rest of the evening! ;-)
[11:45] <Surio> @WOTN, OK, I will probably try it again, tonight
[11:46] <Surio> And just to reconfirm, removing the Virtual machine on 5 is just as simple as in 4, right? Right-click and select "remove VM from disk"?
[11:46] <WarOfTheNerd> Surio, yeah the interface is the same
[11:50] <Surio> @WOTN, re: the Unity thingy, do you think that is still needed even if I switch to VMplayer 4?
[11:52] <cagfaiss> nick cag
[11:57] <Surio> @WOTN, re: the Unity thingy, do you think that is still needed even if I switch to VMplayer 4?
[11:59] <nokia> hi. Can someone confirm if chmod744 is correct for  creating folders/files = root read,write,execute and everyone else read only
[12:00] <jrib> nokia: no.  You want 755
[12:01] <jrib> nokia: 755 for directories and 644 for non-executable files
[12:02] <jrib> !permissions > nokia
[12:04] <Surio> BRB
[12:05] <blackshirt> brb?
[12:05] <auronandace> blackshirt: it means be right back
[12:05] <blackshirt> oh.. I don't know
[12:06] <auronandace> now you do
[12:06] <blackshirt> thank you auronandace
[12:06] <akis> could any advise me how can i make start an application from terminal clicking its button? under gnome.
[12:07] <Benxyzzy> What options do I need to mount a volume on the command line so any user can access it? Right now the mountpoint and all contents of the mount are appearing with owner/group of me, and 700 permissions. I want something like 777
[12:08] <nokia> jrib I was setting permissions just for samba and forgot about the linux file system permissions
[12:08] <Benxyzzy> akis: You mean you want a button in gnome that fires a terminal command?
[12:08] <jrib> Benxyzzy: what filesystem?
[12:10] <Benxyzzy> jrib: vfat - but it's complicated by the fact it's a Truecrypt volume. Truecrypt decrypts the volume and then uses mount to actually mount it. I can pass options to mount through truecrypt on the command line though
[12:10] <EweR> how to get back to terminal when i launched a process, and know whatever i write doesnt pharse and when I push arrow keys it adds "^[[A" to the line of text
[12:10] <EweR> now*
[12:10] <jrib> Benxyzzy: well if you really want everyone to be able to read and write everything then just give 777 I guess
[12:10] <casper_> hi, how can I add a particular command to sudoers list. eg, no one without root privileges can do "who", it should be "sudo who"?
[12:11] <jrib> EweR: you want to terminate the process?
[12:11] <Benxyzzy> jrib: Give 777 to which mount option?
[12:11] <jrib> !vfat > Benxyzzy
[12:11] <bekks> casper_: Wrong. :)
[12:11] <jrib> Benxyzzy: there are several *mask options you can use (think of masks as "subtracting" permissions)
[12:12] <EweR> jrib: no, i want to be able to write commands to terminal and execute them
[12:12] <bekks> casper_: sudo does not inhibit to run a specific application as user. sudo runs that application with root privileges. Which is a big difference.
[12:12] <jrib> EweR: open a terminal, then you can write commands and execute them
[12:13] <EweR> jrib: but when i executed this one command i cant do anything anymore, whatever i write and press enter it just adds the line of text but doesnt do anything else
[12:13] <EweR> its happening all in terminal
[12:13] <jrib> EweR: press ctrl-c
[12:13] <EweR> jrib: thanks
[12:15] <casper__> Wrong? Sorry, I had a connection problem. Could you please answer again, or is there any log?
[12:16] <MARCELLUS>   UBUNTU
[12:16] <jrib> MARCELLUS: PANCAKES
[12:16] <MARCELLUS>
[12:16] <MARCELLUS> ALL MY UBUNTU TASKBARS ARE GONE
[12:17] <jrib> MARCELLUS: ok, we can stop with the caps now, please
[12:17] <MARCELLUS> AND IM USING MY SHIT PHONE TO GO ON IRC, CAPS WONT TURN LFF, MY APOLIGIES
[12:18] <MARCELLUS> fixed it, sorry about that.
[12:18] <MARCELLUS> i logged into ubuntu and the vars on the left anthe top are gone
[12:19] <dr_willis> use the console. check permissions on .Xauthority  MARCELLUS
[12:20] <MARCELLUS> hocant log  intoo console,, says my login is incorrect, im using my default name and pass
[12:20] <dr_willis> also you may want to add a new user for testing. see if they have the same issue
[12:22] <akis> Benxyzzy: i mean i want to run an application through terminal but just clicking on the application's icon, like it is possible in xubuntu with a right click on the application's icon and choosing 'run form a terminal'
[12:23] <MARCELLUS> i webt into guest session, it hss same problem
[12:23] <MARCELLUS> how to fix?
[12:24] <dr_willis> try reinstalling the proper video drivers from the recovery mode. perhaps MARCELLUS
[12:27] <mechteam> hey all
[12:27] <Benxyzzy> akis: Hm, I would create a new launcher (shortcut) and add the command there: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/GNOME.html#LAUNCHER
[12:27] <dr_willis> howdy
[12:29] <akis> my right click on desktop doesn't give me the option to create a launcer
[12:29] <foobArrrr> my usb dvb-s2 device (TechniSat Digital GmbH DVB-PC TV Star HD) stopped working and I don't know why. worked fine last week. /dev/dvb/adapter0/ exists, /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 doesn't. I pastebined the relevant parts of lsusb, dmesg, lsmod and the error messages of scan-s2 and vlc: http://sprunge.us/faII
[12:29] <killer_> how do i add compiz as default compositing manager in lubuntu
[12:30] <superceman> hi all
[12:30] <dr_willis> killer_: you are using lxde?
[12:30] <superceman> hi all
[12:30] <coder__> hello
[12:30] <coder__> anyone here
[12:31] <killer_> dr_willis :  yea ..i installed lxde in my ubuntu 12.04
[12:31] <superceman> i am using uity in ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[12:31] <dr_willis> several hundred here
[12:31] <coder__> i'm trouble with linuxmint
[12:31] <coder__> someone help me
[12:31] <b43156> Hi
[12:31] <akis> is there any option to give the command somewhere else?
[12:31] <superceman> hi
[12:31] <auronandace> !mint | coder__
[12:31] <Kircle> I want to install the KDE desktop but I don't want all the applications that come with it. Can I just get the desktop with the bare minimum of bundled applications?
[12:32] <compdoc> coder__, whats the problem? Thats usually the best place to start
[12:32] <dr_willis> killer_:  you use compiz az the window manager. not sure why you would use lxde if you want the eyecandy of compiz
[12:32] <b43156> I have some preformance problems with my samba. When I am transfering from/to it I get 700kb/S .. I am in a Gbit local network. Any idea? Some configurations? Have asked google but it did not know :/
[12:33] <dr_willis> b43156:  the smb.conf file had some tweaks mentioned in its comments i recall
[12:34] <compdoc> b43156, it should be a lot faster, but are you sharing a USB drive or soemthing?
[12:35] <b43156> compdoc, I have a debian machine which is the samba server.. then I am connected to it from a windows machine and a ubuntu laptop. I get same speed from both of them.
[12:35] <b43156> compdoc, if I use somekind of FTP program I get very good speeds!
[12:36] <dr_willis> i tend to use ssh and sshfs these days
[12:36] <compdoc> b43156, is the hard drive slow? Is there a wifi conenction involved?
[12:39] <b43156> compdoc, When I'm using my laptop wifi... transfering files trough FTP I get 100MbiT .. but trough samba I get 7Mbit.. So there is something wierd with samba.. I will maybe get alittle better speeds using a cable but it's not much better.
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:42] <coder_> hellp
[12:42] <coder_> hello
[12:42] <coder_> help me, please
[12:43] <coder_> i can't boot linuxmint
[12:43] <dr_willis_> we dont do mint support here
[12:43] <coder_> here your can see the error http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umXGStxNskY
[12:43] <coder_> please take a look
[12:43] <install> clear
[12:43] <coder_> oh
[12:43] <coder_> ops
[12:43] <dr_willis_> mint has its own channels
[12:43] <coder_> ok
[12:44] <install> anyone can help with grub install on software raid 0? I can get the correct place to put it
[12:45] <kisha> rc.p2p-net.eu #TC.Support
[12:45] <AMorone> Wish I could for you  As it is, I need help, too, though with something else.
[12:45] <install> clear
[12:47] <akaWolf> 32 bit or 64 more stable?
[12:47] <compdoc> the same
[12:47] <compdoc> 64bit is faster
[12:47] <akaWolf> but why is not recommended
[12:47] <akaWolf> 64
[12:47] <akaWolf> and recommended 32
[12:48] <compdoc> not sure why they do that. maybe because ppl running linux have older computers
[12:48] <akaWolf> ok
[12:48] <Marcellus> Hello, when I log into Ubuntu, there are no longer 'task bars' on the left and top of the screen. How can I restore them?
[12:48] <dr_willis_> a form of idiot proofing
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> Marcellus  Unity?
[12:48] <solusipse> thats because there is still much software that wasnt ported to 32bit i think
[12:49] <solusipse> 64 i mean
[12:49] <dr_willis_> ive seen very few reasons to  not use 64 bit these days
[12:50] <tom_Jiang> this is my first time come here
[12:50] <Marcellus> I think it's Unity... I just downloaded the Windows Installer and ran it
[12:50] <Marcellus> It's been working fine until I last logged out
[12:50] <install> can anyone help with bootloader installation on 12.04, on top of RAID 0? I can't understand which volume should I select
[12:51] <Marcellus> Any ideas as to how I get the bars back?
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> Marcellus  wubi?
[12:53] <AMorone> Having an issue with getting Jack The Ripper password cracker to work through Cygwin in Windows 7. My tech instructor wanted us to install it and see how it works and then write a paper on it. How do I get it to work through Cygwin when I get the error message to every bash command I enter in Cygwin command prompt? Any ideas?  By the way, that error message is that the command isn't...
[12:53] <AMorone> ...recognised.  Am I supposed to use 'Singular' Terminal for Windows? I am aware that the programme is normally only used in Unix, but it can be in Windows, as well, from what I'd read. But, I just am not aware of a workaround to do this to circumvent this problem.  Please let me know what can be done.  Thanks.
[12:53] <Marcellus> Yes I used that
[12:53] <akaWolf> solusipse: but under 64 all 32 bit soft are working...\
[12:53] <Marcellus> It was been working fine all morning
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> Marcellus  and it stopped now... better install ubuntu on its ow partition, not inside windows
[12:54] <OpenbsdVbox> Marcellus: wubi is meant as more of a preview than a solution
[12:54] <Marcellus> oh?
[12:54] <twitchie> !ot | AMorone
[12:54] <solusipse> akaWolf nope, if something was compilled for 32bit it wont work without 32bit libraries
[12:54] <Marcellus> how so? it seems to be working fine
[12:54] <solusipse> but its easy to get them though
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> Marcellus  wubi is a pseudo-instaalion inside windows, not alongside it
[12:55] <yank> why do we use sudo when we can do same work from root shell ?
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> installation*
[12:55] <akaWolf> solusipse: what prevents deliver 32-bit libraries?
[12:55] <OpenbsdVbox> !sudo | yank
[12:55] <Marcellus> I'm pretty sure its outside of it... When I boot my computer I can use Ubuntu or Windows 7...
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> yank  sudo is safer
[12:55] <genoobie> hey all
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> Marcellus  wubi is inside windows
[12:56] <bazhang> yank, for a root shell, sudo -i , if you must
[12:56] <OpenbsdVbox> Marcellus: no, wubi is inside windows, it lives on the ntfs partition as a file
[12:56] <dr_willis_> wuni can be fragile
[12:56] <genoobie> I was running lubuntu and one day I ended up with a "busybox" interface and no boot
[12:56] <Marcellus> Regardless, my task bars are missing and I cannot do anything
[12:56] <genoobie> so I put a livecd in and tried to mount the filesystem
[12:57] <dr_willis_> can you login at the console Marcellus
[12:57] <AMorone> ubottu: k, hon.  Ty.  I will.  :)
[12:57] <solusipse> akaWolf well i use them with no problems but some ppl say that using them should be avoided, dont really know why
[12:57] <Marcellus> No. I opened it with ctrl + alt + f1, but it asks for a login, and my usual details don't work on it
[12:57] <yank> but i see that its always recommended to use sudo rather than dropping to root shell. Any special reason for that?
[12:57] <yank> bazhang:
[12:57] <genoobie> I got an error of "error mounting, mount wronf fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda2
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> yank  sudo is safer
[12:58] <bazhang> yank, yes?
[12:58] <OpenbsdVbox> yank: root shell is hardly ever needed
[12:58] <akaWolf> solusipse: mm..
[12:58] <genoobie> in some cases useful info is found in syslog
[12:58] <yank> bazhang: but i see that its always recommended to use sudo rather than dropping to root shell. Any special reason for that?
[12:58] <genoobie> try dmesg | tail or so
[12:58] <bazhang> yank, sudo -i for a root shell, the root password is not enabled by default
[12:58] <OpenbsdVbox> yank: if you ran everything as root then your system can be compromised far easier than if you were a normal user
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> yank  told you twice why
[12:58] <genoobie> any ideas?
[12:58] <dr_willis_> security is king.
[12:59] <yank> OpenbsdVbox: yes that what i wanted to hear...but how so?
[12:59] <genoobie> so I looked at dmesg | tail
[12:59] <Surio> @Marcellus, I had a related problem like yours', and switching to Unity2D solved my problem. Why don't you try that?
[12:59] <dr_willis_> glebihan:  whats the exact  line you are using
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> yank  to work permanently as root would turn your pc into a windows machine, nobody want that
[12:59] <OpenbsdVbox> yank: root has access to everything, you don't always need access to everything
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> wants*
[13:00] <genoobie> end_request io error dev sda sector 120122415
[13:00] <genoobie> and failed to read block errors followed by recovery failed
[13:00] <yank> OpenbsdVbox: ohk
[13:00] <genoobie> ext4-fs
[13:00] <dr_willis_> io errors  are not good.
[13:00] <genoobie> this sucks
[13:00] <yank> monekydust: ok thanks
[13:00] <genoobie> dr_willis_, data is toast?
[13:01] <dr_willis_> depends. genoobie
[13:01] <genoobie> well I can't simply mount the fs from the livecd so that sucks
[13:01] <genoobie> dr_willis_, any tips?
[13:01] <dr_willis_> fsck  the fs may fix it.
[13:01] <genoobie> dr_willis_, not so skilled with fsck
[13:02] <dr_willis_> or try ddrescue. but that may take days.
[13:02] <dr_willis_> !fsck
[13:02] <dr_willis_> fsck /dev/sda2   for example
[13:03] <genoobie> oh that's easy
[13:03] <dr_willis_> man fsck       ;-)
[13:03] <genoobie> ugh the man pages...
[13:04] <dr_willis_> be sure to use the right dev/sd##
[13:04] <genoobie> yep it's sda2
[13:04] <genoobie> so when it returns ignore error, do I say, "yes"?
[13:05] <dr_willis_> normally. yes
[13:05] <genoobie> force rewrite?
[13:05] <Surio> OK, thanks irc, I got what I wanted, and thanks to @WarOfTheNerd also. :-)
[13:06] <dr_willis_> never seen that message.
[13:06] <genoobie> hm...
[13:06] <dr_willis_> if you feel lucky.. yes. =-O
[13:07] <genoobie> dr_willis_, do I keep doing that or is once enough with the command
[13:07] <dr_willis_> once it passes a fsck. try mounting it again
[13:08] <genoobie> okay it mounts...
[13:08] <genoobie> very cool
[13:08] <genoobie> I'll poke around and see what's up
[13:08] <dr_willis_> id be making backups also
[13:08] <genoobie> dr_willis_, thanks
[13:08] <genoobie> yep
[13:08] <OpenbsdVbox> genoobie: backup your data now that you have the chance
[13:08] <genoobie> just need it for one more day
[13:08] <genoobie> and then I'm going to dump the hdd
[13:08] <genoobie> buy a new one
[13:08] <dr_willis_> backup the backups
[13:09] <genoobie> I have a raid 1 NAS box
[13:11]  * skraito said why the fucker dev null keep on flooding freenode
[13:11] <OpenbsdVbox> !language | skraito
[13:12] <skraito> shut up
[13:13] <ciao> ciao
[13:13] <ciao> list!
[13:13] <Bren_> !list
[13:14] <shomon> hi, how do I change keyboard to italian?
[13:14] <shomon> it's spanish atm
[13:14] <shomon> is it easier via terminal or can I get an icon to do it for me each time?
[13:14] <Bren_> shomon, in a window manager (which?) or console?
[13:15] <shomon> I was asking both.. is it easier in gnome or terminal?
[13:15] <webfox> I need to reduce the console font of Ubuntu Server. If I change the console-setup it changes it but when I restart the machine those changes are lost. How do I keep those changes alive ?
[13:15] <OpenbsdVbox> !keyboard | shomon
[13:15] <crizis> shomon, system preferences > keyboard layout
[13:16] <Bren_> crizis, edit /etc/default/console-setup
[13:17] <Bren_> sorry, wrong address :)
[13:17] <Bren_> webfox, /etc/default/console-setup
[13:17] <papna> I'm running Natty and my audio is all crackly and stuttery (and sometimes gets stuck in a loop). It seems to start when I use Flash. How can I get it to work?
[13:18] <webfox> Bren_, yes, when I change it it get lost after a restart. How do I persist those changes from restart to restart ?
[13:18] <OpenbsdVbox> papna: any reason you are still on natty, its eol next month, consider upgrading
[13:18] <shomon> thanks OpenbsdVbox and crizis !
[13:19] <Alligadi_> hi
[13:19] <Bren_> webfox, is only the effect not working after reboot or is that file back to its old content?
[13:20] <papna> OpenbsdVbox: Because this install is slightly old, it's otherwise working. Dist-upgrade has a habit of making things stop working. (Also, I'm in no hurry for a WM change.)
[13:20] <theadmin> Does anyone know of a way to sync stuff on two devices, but only in case both devices are mounted?
[13:20] <mafiaboy> how do i open sound preferences using terminal (need it)
[13:20] <webfox> Bren_, I think the effect does not sustain. But perhaps the file turn back as well.
[13:20] <OpenbsdVbox> papna: flash is one nasty beast, not sure how to help you there
[13:21] <Nede> my new vps have a problem: Add my user "milanese" in group sudo and adm. But the command "sudo su" :sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[13:21] <Alligadi_> flash needs to die :D
[13:21] <tf81_netbook> agreed
[13:21] <L3top> theadmin: I could write something.
[13:21] <Bren_> webfox, then please try to configure it in the file, reboot and check if your changes in the file persisted.
[13:22] <webfox> Bren_, I will do that now.
[13:22] <theadmin> L3top: Well, if you're thinking a bash/perl/python script I could do something along the lines too, just wondering if there's a ready solution somewhere
[13:22] <papna> OpenbsdVbox: Search results suggest it's pretty terrible in Oneric and Precise, just like it has been terrible since Warty.
[13:22] <theadmin> L3top: All I really want is sync my music collection to my android phone, but I always look for generic solutions, lol
[13:22] <OpenbsdVbox> papna: well, flash is flash
[13:23]  * L3top always prefers a custom solution he sets and forgets... *shrugs*
[13:23] <OpenbsdVbox> papna: you can try the version in the repos or the very latest from adobe or just abandon it altogether (or even try gnash or lightspark)
[13:23] <dr_willis_> i use flash downloader extensions. or flash replacer extensions to play flash in vlc.
[13:24] <papna> The bigger problem is that the audio situation is a mess. One rogue application can screw up the audio for the system as a whole.
[13:24] <theadmin> L3top: Well, thanks anyway, I'll think of something
[13:24] <Alligadi_> @papna: with pulseaudio and such crap thats true :D
[13:24] <Alligadi_> but with ALSA alone, sound works perfect
[13:24] <papna> Except when it doesn't.
[13:25] <Alligadi_> sure that pulseaudio isn the reason?
[13:25] <dr_willis_> sound just gets locked with alsa..
[13:25] <papna> Not at all. I'm just sure that ALSA alone doesn't work perfect. :)
[13:25] <theadmin> papna: Why are you so sure? I have a pure ALSA setup without Pulse, it works. With Pulse, it doesn't (garbled sound :/)
[13:25] <foobArrrr> my usb dvb-s2 device (TechniSat Digital GmbH DVB-PC TV Star HD) stopped working and I don't know why. worked fine last week. /dev/dvb/adapter0/ exists, /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 doesn't. I pastebined the relevant parts of lsusb, dmesg, lsmod and the error messages of scan-s2 and vlc: http://sprunge.us/faII
[13:25] <Alligadi_> the last two years I had sound problems on about 5 computers running Ubuntu with pulseaudio. And just one with ALSA alone so far (lightweight distributions)
[13:26] <Alligadi_> pulseaudio is a big step back like nearly all the bloated software ubuntu consists of today
[13:26] <webfox> Bren_, it seems the console-setup file is correct like after I have changed it. The thing it console-setup are not read again after a restart suppose.
[13:26] <OpenbsdVbox> papna: i've used stock ubuntu and my sound has never had a problem
[13:26] <papna> theadmin: Because I've ran straight ALSA on many machines and had a single application hose it until the ALSA daemon is restarted many times. :)
[13:27] <papna> theadmin: Because many old applications won't work with ALSA at all.
[13:27] <theadmin> papna: Doesn't seem to happen here, though yes, familiar with the problem
[13:27] <Saevo> hi rsync wont accept my id_dsa.pub key
[13:27] <Bren_> webfox, ok then i'm out of wits here. as a work-around, you could try and add your console-setup command to /etc/rc.local
[13:27] <Alligadi_> but with alsa-oss :)
[13:27] <Saevo> normal login as root works
[13:27] <Alligadi_> (oss emulation)
[13:28] <webfox> Bren_, what line I would put on rc.local ?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> papna, alsa works fine for pc based audio and video , even flv files , but unfortunately pulse is required for most soundcards to extract the flash audio on websites
[13:29] <Alligadi_> wrong
[13:30] <myk_robinson> i notice with every release of Ubuntu, it seems the longer I keep it, the slower start up gets. If I create  new user account and log into it, it seems to go to the desktop MUCH faster. How can I troubleshoot slower boot times?
[13:30] <Bren_> webfox, try the commands you used to set it manually. /etc/rc.local is just a shell script. but be sure to add your commands before the "exit 0" which should be at the last line.
[13:30] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: check what you have installed
[13:31] <webfox> Bren_, doing it now.
[13:32] <OpenbsdVbox> !bootchart | myk_robinson
[13:32] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: can you be more specific? Yes, I have some things installed, but nothing I would say is unusual. How can I check for apps that run on startup? It seems that even the login ...
[13:32] <Alligadi_> @myk_robinsons: if you want no software aging, you will need a other distribution i guess :D
[13:32] <myk_robinson> you beat me...
[13:32] <BluesKaj> Alligadi_, well, wrong for you maybe , but that's my experience ..I'd be glad to hear how to use alsa exclusively without pulse and still hear audio on websites
[13:33] <bazhang> !behelpful | Alligadi_
[13:34] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: installing Bootchart now, hopefully that will shed some light on what is stalling the boot time.
[13:34] <pranjal710> hi, how can I add a particular command to sudoers list. eg, I want that no one without root privileges can do "who" .
[13:34] <Alligadi_> @BluesKaj: I switched to TinyCore when Ubuntu was too less transparent for me 2 years ago. I never had problems with sound in TC, not on websites, not in flash not in applications. Maybe it helps when i write what i have installed for audio:
[13:35] <webfox> Bren_, seems did not works.
[13:35] <bazhang> Alligadi_, this is NOT the chat channel
[13:35] <bazhang> Alligadi_, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat, NOT here
[13:35] <dr_willis_> pranjal710: i dont think it works that way
[13:35] <Bren_> Bren_, ok, then you'd have to hope for somebody else here
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Alligadi_, well we're talking about ubuntu here , not tinycore
[13:36] <Saevo> help
[13:36] <pranjal710> dr_willis_:  Cant we add certain commands to sudo commands, so that no other person can use it?
[13:36] <Saevo> rsync with pubkey doesnt work
[13:37] <htamayo> hi, I have problems trying to bringing up my ati radeon x1200 series in ubuntu precise, i don't get any video i got an error that "no screens found" and that the device  is not supported, also i don0t have any xorg.conf file
[13:37] <dr_willis_> pranjal710:  ive never seen it done that way. thats the opposite of what sudo does
[13:38] <htamayo> so, checking in the web i didn't any helpfull, so any suggestions are welcome
[13:38] <theadmin> pranjal710: Take off the execute bit for "other" on the file: sudo chmod o-x $(which who)
[13:38] <dr_willis_> pranjal710: check the sudo homepage perhaps.
[13:38] <leblebi> hello! I am customizing an ISO with Ubuntu Customization Kit. I am on the step which I install from terminal the applications as root with apt-get install command. But I always get this error: Unable to locate package I have on the source list these lines: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted
[13:38] <leblebi> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security main restricted
[13:38] <leblebi> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted
[13:38] <leblebi> Can somebody please help me? Thank you!
[13:38] <FloodBot1> leblebi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:39] <dr_willis_> theadmin: aha. forgot about those.
[13:41] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: what has /var/log/bootchart revealed?
[13:41] <theadmin> dr_willis_: Ridiculous solution though -- apt-get would fix them back to normal on an update
[13:41] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: not sure, looking at it now. Just uploaded it to share   http://www.imagebanana.com/view/1y5sub29/mykIdeapadZ570precise201209231.png
[13:42] <eduard> hey I am having trouble with updating anything on my jaunty
[13:42] <nsudo> someone can please check my vnc and ports forwarding
[13:42] <theadmin> eduard: Jaunty is EOL -- the repos are taken down, you can't install/update anything there
[13:42] <pranjal710> theadmin , dr_willis_  : I think I wasnt clear with my question. Example: Anybody can do "ls" to view the directory contents. I want that only people with root privileges can do "ls" . Is there a way?
[13:42] <webfox> Bren_, thank you!
[13:42] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | eduard
[13:42] <theadmin> pranjal710: Just told you how. But... That would be just stupid for such a core tool as ls
[13:43] <nsudo> also i need help in installing my sound on 12.04
[13:43] <webfox> Could someone help me figure how to keep console-setup setting over a restart procedure please?
[13:43] <Saevo> rsync with pubkey isnt working
[13:43] <eduard> so I cant even upgrade my version?
[13:43] <pranjal710> theadmin:  yes, I was just giving an example. sorry
[13:43] <theadmin> eduard: See the link bazhang gave to you
[13:44] <theadmin> pranjal710: Anyway, just take off the execute bit: sudo chmod o-x $(which ls)
[13:44] <Saevo> whats with do-release-upgrade?
[13:44] <eduard> alright ill try that one again thx bazhang and theadmin
[13:44] <theadmin> pranjal710: Then only root will be able to execute it
[13:44] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: so I'm looking at the chart, and am not sure I really understand what I'm looking at :) Any of this stick out as the culprit to you?
[13:44] <pranjal710> theadmin: Thankyou
[13:45] <leblebi> hello! I am customizing an ISO with Ubuntu Customization Kit. I am on the step which I install from terminal the applications as root with apt-get install command. But I always get this error: Unable to locate package I have on the source list these lines: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted
[13:45] <leblebi> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security main restricted
[13:45] <leblebi> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted
[13:45] <leblebi> Can somebody please help me? Thank you!
[13:45] <FloodBot1> leblebi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:45] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: hmm, nothing much sticks out to me
[13:45] <Sven_vB> leblebi, did apt-get update run already?
[13:46] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: maybe its just perception...
[13:46] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: seems that fsck is being run
[13:46] <l057c0d3r> ahh
[13:46] <myk_robinson> Seems like startup is much slower compared to a month or two ago
[13:46]  * l057c0d3r bashes his head off the wall
[13:46] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: for whatever its worth, the only additional startup application I have listed is Synapse
[13:47] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: some of the modprobes seem to take a while though
[13:47] <Saevo> help
[13:47] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: what does synapse do?
[13:47] <Saevo> Ive a problem with rsync
[13:47] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: Synapse is a launcher, it doesn't start until the user session, though.
[13:48] <l057c0d3r> i dont understand it where did i go wrong.. i've tried 5 times now to make a ubuntu live usb with persistent and still not working right....  tried using the ubuntu live cd..  universal-usb-creator and Unetbootin
[13:48] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: I notice modem-manager and a bluetooth module. I have neither. How di I prevent them from starting?
[13:49] <myk_robinson> !synapse
[13:49] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: not sure sorry
[13:49] <l057c0d3r> i can get it to boot into the live session.. but if i add persistent to the boot option.. it boots the first time.. but laggy as hell..  and the cow directory shows up.. but sais unable to access drive...  and then if i try to boot a second time with persistent it hangs during load.. locks up.. nothing....  but if i delete casper-rw and remake its the same over again
[13:49] <leblebi> Sven_vB no I had not. But I did it when you told me, now. But the same problem still.
[13:49] <KRomeleoN> anyone know if gthumb is in active development?
[13:49] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: synapse doesn't seem to be the culprit there though
[13:49] <KRomeleoN> shotwell has been crashing a lot on me
[13:49] <KRomeleoN> and gthumb is better i find
[13:50] <myk_robinson> does the boot time look normal to you? Like I said, maybe its just perception and impatience
[13:50] <KRomeleoN> but idk if its active
[13:50] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: 60secs seems reasonable to me
[13:51] <nsudo> can someone help me installing my intel hda via remote help will be appriciated a lot as i am trying a lot but no sucess
[13:52] <myk_robinson> OpenbsdVbox: i think really the part that is troubling me is after I log into my user account, the amount of time it takes to actually get from login to desktop. I suppose its no big deal, because the laptop works plenty fast enough. Just noticing things, I guess
[13:52] <myk_robinson> thanks for your attention and assistance, however
[13:52] <BluesKaj> nsudo, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[13:52] <OpenbsdVbox> myk_robinson: no worries
[13:53] <bootch> hi guys
[13:53] <webfox> How do reset a window size to 100% after a Resize operaton on VirtualBox ?
[13:53] <Saevo> OpenbsdVbox: i worry and nobody wants to tell me how to rsync with pbkey
[13:53] <nsudo> BluesKaj no soundcard found
[13:53] <bootch> I got some problem compiling kernel, my ubuntu wont start. Could you give me a hand?
[13:53] <papna> Hrm. Well, my audio problems don't actually seem to have anything to do with Flash, but that is of small comfort.
[13:54] <Muelli> bootch: what's your exact problem?
[13:54] <Saevo> help, rsync wont work
[13:54] <bootch> here's error message I got on boot http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222394/
[13:54] <l057c0d3r> just wondering if anyone has actually got persistent to work with usb on 12.04
[13:54] <Saevo> !rsync
[13:54] <BluesKaj> nsudo, you're ssh'd into a remote pc ?
[13:54] <julius> hi
[13:54] <julius> can i just do a  do-release-upgrade from 11.10 to current?
[13:54] <bootch> Muelli, hi
[13:55] <Muelli> bootch: hm. What's your kernel cmd line? Looks like you're trying to wrongly mount a root fs
[13:55] <nsudo> no
[13:55] <bootch> Muelli, I didn't edit it, I installed kernel from .deb give me a sec I will check the line
[13:57] <bootch> Muelli, where should I look, I'm confused with grub2
[13:58] <Muelli> bootch: I have no idea tbh. I still don't use grub2 -.-
[13:58] <oldskool_> Hey I am trying to setup a virtual bridge for my ubuntu server but keep running into problems...
[13:58] <BluesKaj> nsudo, in the remote server terminal , sudo aplay -l
[13:58] <nsudo> sudo aplay -l
[13:58] <nsudo> ok
[13:58] <oldskool_> when I edit the /etc/network/interfaces file and add the br0 interface it makes my eth0 ip the one I assign to it
[13:59] <nsudo> aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...
[13:59] <MikeWorth> I'm after a piece of 2D CAD software that is capable of drawing nets to cut out and form into tubes. I need to be able to have oblique ends to the tubes, so need to be able to draw lines with trigonometric curves. I've tried libreCAD but don't seem to be able to do trigonometric curves, is there something that can do this?
[13:59] <Sindir> Hi, I checked my servers /var/log/syslog and saw that UFW kept blocking a connection from my mac. Any ideas on why my mac want to try connect to my ubuntu server?
[13:59] <Saevo> help damm
[13:59] <Saevo> !swear
[13:59] <papna> Or with pulse :/
[14:00] <leblebi> Hi! I am customizing an ISO with Ubuntu Customization Kit. I am on the step which I install from terminal the applications as root with apt-get install command. But I always get this error: Unable to locate package I have on the source list these lines: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted
[14:00] <leblebi> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security main restricted
[14:00] <leblebi> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted
[14:00] <leblebi> Can somebody please help me? Thank you!
[14:00] <nsudo> lspci says 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[14:00] <FloodBot1> leblebi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:00] <jrib> leblebi: run sudo apt-get update
[14:00] <leblebi> jrib I already try it. :(
[14:01] <oldskool_> ** Does anyone have experince setting up a bridge to utilize with virt-manager
[14:01] <oldskool_> ?
[14:01] <jrib> leblebi: pastebin full input and output of install command
[14:01] <Muelli> Saevo: does SSHing into your server work with the pubkey auth?
[14:01] <oldskool_> does for me :)
[14:01] <bootch> Muelli, that's what is in my grub http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222559/
[14:02] <BluesKaj> nsudo,  lspci ,-nn | grep -i audio , pastebin the output
[14:02] <nsudo> @ BluesKaj I also tried uninstalling alsa and pulse audio, reinstalling them, changing the /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
[14:02] <l057c0d3r> hmm.. so no one has any experience with ubuntu live usb with persistent turned on...
[14:02] <l057c0d3r> thanks to any info that can be given
[14:02] <bootch> Muelli, I'm worried that I didnt include some drivers in my kernel
[14:02] <nsudo> yo
[14:02] <actionParsnip> l057c0d3r: well...what do you need to know?
[14:02] <Muelli> bootch: hm. It lists UUID b6848bab-9915-4199-8ed0-5245e7714d90. Does blkid list that, too? And will that be available during boot?
[14:02] <aducologne> hi all! i am trying to centralize my ubuntu installations (like using landscape without using landscape). i wanted to use a shared /home on our nas that is shared by all ubuntu desktops. i also want to use a shared /usr ro on our nas so that I can centrally install applications to everyone's availability
[14:03] <oldskool_> Can someone help me with setting up a bridge for my vm server
[14:03] <oldskool_> it doesn't work...
[14:03] <leblebi> jrib http://pastebin.com/UbrtF0qQ
[14:03] <aducologne> just curious how to keep etc synced - should i share it too in that case?
[14:03] <l057c0d3r> actionParsnip, well....  when i boot with the persistent option...  it boots the first time.. but has the cow drive and sais can not access the drive.. and then every boot afterthat with persistent just locks up..
[14:03] <actionParsnip> oldskool_: what have you tried and what happens?
[14:03] <oldskool_> I assign a static ip for my eth0 in my /etc/network/interfaces
[14:03] <oldskool_> then I use dhcp for the br0
[14:03] <jrib> leblebi: pastebin the output of « sudo apt-get update »
[14:04] <oldskool_> in the /etc/network/interfaces
[14:04] <l057c0d3r> actionParsnip, tried several times now with the unbuntu live cd..  universal-usb-installer and unetbootin..  same thing every time
[14:04] <leblebi> jrib http://pastebin.com/WfnrPQjg
[14:04] <oldskool_> then it seems to take over the eth0 and I can't resolve any ips
[14:04] <actionParsnip> l057c0d3r: same USB stick each time?
[14:04] <Alex_portugal> I have a sony laptop (vaio 397XP)... with only Ubuntu. Does not reboot when i insert sudo reboot.... what can i do?
[14:04] <l057c0d3r> actionParsnip, nope.. even got a new usb stick the other day.. and same thing still..
[14:05] <actionParsnip> l057c0d3r: did you MD5 test the ISO you transferred?
[14:05] <actionParsnip> Alex_portugal: do you have the latest BIOS?
[14:05] <nsudo> http://pastebin.com/4ZXn0H3A @BluesKaj
[14:05] <Alex_portugal> yes i have
[14:05] <l057c0d3r> actionParsnip, maybe im making the casper-rw file to big or something but only making it 4 gig and got a 8 gig usb
[14:05] <bootch> Muelli, when I type blkid It gives noting, I'm on Thinkpad laptop I got only one hdd
[14:05] <Sindir> @Alex_portugal sudo shutdown -r 1
[14:05] <jrib> leblebi: apt-cache policy vlc
[14:06] <l057c0d3r> actionParsnip, yep..  even redownloaded and tried the lubuntu iso as well
[14:06] <Alex_portugal> ok
[14:06] <BluesKaj> nsudo,don't fool with pulse.conf
[14:06] <leblebi> jrib Unable to locate package vlc
[14:06] <Muelli> bootch: hm. I am confused. Can you paste the exact commands you entered and the exact output you receive?
[14:06] <oldskool_> actionParsnip: Can you explain how to setup a bridge for my vm server?
[14:06] <actionParsnip> !info vlc
[14:06] <oldskool_> actionParsnip: so I know if I doing it wrong
[14:06] <L3top> l057c0d3r:  again... check the md5sum of the image.
[14:06] <actionParsnip> leblebi: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  grep universe /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:06] <BuPy7> вав
[14:07] <nsudo> ok tell me what to do now
[14:07] <BuPy7> Hello!
[14:07] <l057c0d3r> l3top..  been there done that...  they all checked out..  all 4 iso.s i've downloaded
[14:07] <actionParsnip> oldskool_: is it not a setting of the VM ?
[14:07] <shomon> what is the best or most recommended video editing software for someone coming from commercial packages?
[14:07] <l057c0d3r> as long as i dont put persistent in the boot option it boots fine.. but like i said no persistent
[14:07] <actionParsnip> shomon: there is no most recommened, nor best
[14:07] <L3top> l057c0d3r: you mentioned casper... are you trying to use remastersys or something?
[14:07] <Saevo> Muelli: yes it does
[14:07] <shomon> not very good then?
[14:07] <oldskool_> actionParsnip: No I want it setup as a bridge not NAT... I think the vm installs a nat interface ... virsomething
[14:07] <bootch> Muelli, I forgot sudo sry here's result http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222569/
[14:08] <jrib> !best | shomon
[14:08] <Muelli> Saevo: so what's your exact problem then?
[14:08] <jrib> shomon: bestbot should have a list
[14:08] <Saevo> Muelli: thats whats mocking me
[14:08] <BuPy7> Windows true!
[14:08] <leblebi> actionParsnip no output :(
[14:08] <actionParsnip> shomon: http://techcityinc.com/2009/02/04/top-10-free-video-editors-for-ubuntu-linux/
[14:08] <l057c0d3r> casper-rw is the file...  used to store persistent on the usb stick... that is also booting the live session...
[14:08] <shomon> :) I understand thanks
[14:08] <actionParsnip> leblebi: try:  sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/precisesources.list
[14:08] <leblebi> actionParsnip this command: "grep universe /etc/apt/sources.list" does not show me anything.
[14:08] <Muelli> bootch: hm. So you're trying to make ext4 your rootfs. Do you have ext4 compiled in the kernel?
[14:08] <dr_willis_> i think theres 4 nonliner video editors out now. kino. pititv. openshot. and that one by the vlc guys
[14:08] <l057c0d3r> l3top  what im trying to do is get persistence on a live usb
[14:08] <L3top> I see... I have never used persistence l057c0d3r... however I do master distros... which is why I am familiar with it.
[14:09] <oldskool_> actionParsnip: Once I add br0 in the /etc/network/interfaces and reset the networking is that all I need to do to setup a bridge interface?
[14:09] <actionParsnip> shomon: what is the best video editor in Windows? or the most recommened? Same difference....you will only get people's opinions and noting more
[14:09] <L3top> l057c0d3r: I do not believe I will be able to help much if persistence is the only issue
[14:09] <oldskool_> actionParsnip: I think part of the problem is I am trying to keep a static ip for my eth0 and add dhcp for my br0
[14:10] <bootch> Muelli, I believe so, here's my kernel config http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222473/
[14:10] <Saevo> Muelli: ssh alone works, if I do rsync it doesn't
[14:10] <oldskool_> via /etc/network/interfaces
[14:10] <nsudo> purging pulse and re=installing now
[14:10] <actionParsnip> oldskool_: its not something I've done to be honest. I've seen lots of guides online but I'd start in #vmware to make sure your settings are appropriate for the networking you want to do
[14:10] <Muelli> Saevo: how do you know it doesn't work?
[14:10] <L3top> oldskool_: if you are trying to do routing you will need two physical nics.
[14:10] <Alex_portugal> I have a sony laptop (vaio 397XP)... with only Ubuntu. Does not reboot when i insert sudo reboot.... what can i do?
[14:10] <jrib> leblebi: note that your existing sources.list get overwritten, but yes you need to add universe as actionParsnip concluded
[14:10] <l057c0d3r> l3top  k thanks anyway....  it just dosn't make sense..  why it will boot the very first time.. and then lock every time after that when trying to use persistent
[14:10] <bootch> Muelli, I selected ext4 to be included in kernel not as module
[14:10] <shomon> I want to be able to choose one that does what maybe a step up from windows movie maker would do.. I use avidemux and I had a look at cinelerra years ago.. I wanted a few rather than a top one so thanks
[14:10] <leblebi> actionParsnip http://pastebin.com/yx7Ww0th
[14:10] <BuPy7> JognBall, ты пидар!
[14:10] <JohnBall> Hello
[14:10] <actionParsnip> jrib: the file is the default one from Precise with the good stuff enabled :)
[14:10] <JohnBall> Hello, Russian shlushka
[14:11] <shomon> we have lots of aftereffects people and I'd like them to switch to open source video if there's something comparable
[14:11] <Saevo> I tried it and I >> everything in a log with -v
[14:11] <Muelli> hm bootch. Seems so. Interesting indeed. And well, you're trying to boot off the machine you're currently running, right? i.e. not a virtual system or so where that UUID is not available..?
[14:11] <nsudo> @BluesKaj ok?
[14:11] <jrib> actionParsnip: right, but in case he's added some repositories of his own
[14:11] <leblebi> jrib what actionParsnip has gave me. They are official repos of Canocical?
[14:11] <jrib> leblebi: yes
[14:11] <Saevo> Muelli: I tried it and I >> everything in a log with -v
[14:11] <Sindir> Got a mac that's getting blocked by UFW on my linux. Any idea why it tried to connect with my linux system in the first place?
[14:11] <fantaghir> Jo :D
[14:11] <Muelli> Saevo: what did you try exactly and what is the exact output? Come on you have to be nice with us in order for us to help you.
[14:12] <bootch> Muelli, yep on this machine with no virtualiation
[14:12] <actionParsnip> leblebi: read the file, you can see it references the official sources.
[14:12] <oldskool_> L3top: I have a ubuntu server that I want as a vmserver... I want the static ip for my nic and bridge so it gives my vm's access their own ips instead of them using the NAT built into the software
[14:12] <htamayo> i'm having trouble with the graphical mode in ubuntu precise, in fact, i don't have graph mode, i installed precise using an iso when it was unstable, but now i understand that precise is lts, my question is: i'm having trouble with the video cause i used an unstable iso? is a better way to download the latest and then reinstall?
[14:13] <leblebi> actionParsnip he already told me that they are official :D
[14:13] <L3top> which VM are you using, and you really need 2 nics minimum to do this correctly oldskool_.
[14:13] <Muelli> hm bootch. I'm confused. Looks like it should just work^tm. But maybe you need to build a new initrd or so..? Do you have your cmdline and the error message again? (sorry, I closed the browsers and can't find it again)
[14:13] <bootch> Muelli, I did include my chipset driver and AHCI in kernel, but I fear I missed something
[14:13] <oldskool_> L3top: I have 2 nic's on my mobo can I utilize them?
[14:13] <dr_willis_> htamayo:  once you update and apt-get upgrade its the latest
[14:13] <L3top> oldskool_: absolutely.
[14:13] <Saevo> Muelli: cronjob as root will be excuted as root?
[14:13] <Muelli> bootch: there is "make localmodconfig" or so which tried to guess your hardware IIRC.
[14:13] <Muelli> Saevo: yes
[14:13] <L3top> oldskool_: which vm?
[14:13] <Saevo> Muelli: ok, very bad
[14:13] <oldskool_> L3top: How would I go about doing that?  .. virt-manager
[14:13] <oldskool_> ?
[14:14] <htamayo> dr_willis: thanks i will try cause i didn't upgrade
[14:14] <Saevo> Muelli: seems I found out why it doesnt work -.-
[14:14] <oldskool_> sorrry I am new to vm's on linux
[14:14] <oldskool_> not sure if that is the software I use
[14:14] <Muelli> Saevo: you're welcome ;-)
[14:14] <actionParsnip> leblebi: if you run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install vlc      does it install OK?
[14:14] <L3top> Which virtual machine oldskool_... vmware, virtualbox, kvm-qemu...
[14:14] <bootch> Muelli, here's my error message http://paste.ubuntu.com/1222394/ I did lspci -n and checked hardware manually I only couldnt find my wifi driver
[14:15] <L3top> oldskool_: I am not familiar with the ins and outs of them all.
[14:15] <bootch> Muelli, I used config from kernel-seeds.org if it is any help
[14:15] <oldskool_> kvm!
[14:15] <oldskool_> sorry had to figure that out
[14:15] <oldskool_> :P
[14:16] <oldskool_> vmware is avil on linux too?
[14:16] <Muelli> hm bootch. Maybe there is some unrecognised hardware. I would try localmodconfig or whatever it was called. Or maybe try with your current config and do an oldconfig just to check whether it's the configuration
[14:16] <L3top> oldskool_: yes. kvm probably has the best performance, virtualbox the easiest to use/configure... vmware somewhere in between.
[14:16] <leblebi> actionParsnip yes it works. thank you! But I need to ask you something else: where did you get this link: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/precisesources.list
[14:17] <actionParsnip> leblebi: its my dropbox public folder. I keep one there for when people start messing with their sources.list file and botch it
[14:17] <oldskool_> L3top: Cool so I made a good choice :)
[14:17] <l057c0d3r> l3top i think i might have found the problem..  fat32 can not have over a 4 gb file size....
[14:18] <l057c0d3r> sooo that might have something to do with it... going to try and make a smaller one and see if that helps
[14:18] <oldskool_> why is my other nic not showing up in my ifconfig does it need to have a cable plugged in before the interface is up? Shouldn't it be shown if I do a ifconfig regardless?
[14:18] <bootch> Muelli, before I used config from kernel-seeds.org I was able to find my wifi driver in make menuconfig now it's gone
[14:18] <bootch> Muelli, so how can I get it back?
[14:18] <Muelli> bootch: well. wifi should really not be important to boot.
[14:19] <bootch> Muelli, you're right
[14:19] <htamayo> other question: after the installation of precise i never get graphical mode, because an issue of fglrx driver, but ubuntu can't use and generic module for the video? in fact it's the first time that i have this problem in ubuntu, it always got me graph mode
[14:19] <Saevo> Muelli: is the a network boot option via wifi?
[14:19] <Muelli> bootch: so try both: you current configuration and then make oldconfig, and then make localmodconfig or smth like that. You'll find it ;-)
[14:19] <oldskool_> L3top: I was thinking I wanted to utilize the 2 nics anyhow .. Wanted to seperate my vmserver with one of my vm's so they look like 2 machines on the network
[14:20] <theadmin> htamayo: Remove fglrx
[14:20] <SilverSlimer> is anyone here already using windows 8?
[14:20] <theadmin> SilverSlimer: Wrong channel
[14:20] <Saevo> Muelli: yup, it worked
[14:20] <bootch> Muelli, thx will try it!
[14:20] <SilverSlimer> theadmin just noticed lol
[14:20] <htamayo> theadmin: and then ubuntu will choose another driver?
[14:20] <theadmin> htamayo: Yes, then Ubuntu will use the opensource one, "radeon"
[14:20] <L3top> oldskool_: public bridge particularly relevant to you... but you should give the whole thing a read. http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Networking
[14:21] <Saevo> SilverSlimer: Im using Windows 2000 youre oldfashioned
[14:21] <htamayo> theadmin, in fact that is the default option but it doesn't work
[14:21] <Saevo> SilverSlimer: lets talk in #offtopic
[14:21] <theadmin> htamayo: Hm, I dunno if it supports all devices
[14:22] <leblebi> actionParsnip I will install fresh Ubuntu 12.04.1 now. It will have exactly the same source.list file with yours (which you gave me here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/precisesources.list
[14:22] <actionParsnip> leblebi: mine has all the repos enabled. Yours either has missing lines, or they are commented out
[14:22] <borneo> Is this the channel to ask Package maintenance questions in? I'm trying to build add a new flavor of a package and want to know if there is a tool to help aid creating the /debian entries.
[14:23] <htamayo> theadmn: well yes it support my video card, i'm use ubuntu since 4 years i never got this problem, in other distros yes cause the restricted repos but in ubuntu i got video at first boot, even in live mode
[14:23] <oldskool_> L3top: THanks I'm gonna go read up
[14:23] <L3top> oldskool_: this will provide you an internal and external network... it should be noted that if one of your nics is wireless... this doesn't count. It will not bridge wireless.
[14:23] <Muelli> !motu | borneo may here they know
[14:23] <oldskool_> L3top: Yeah I thought I saw something about not being able to bridge wirless
[14:24] <oldskool_> L3top: KK gimme a sec to read up on this
[14:24] <borneo> Muelli: 谢谢
[14:27] <l057c0d3r> pny usb drivers are good drives right.. i always thought pny was a good brand..  but they were cheep  soo.. maybe the drives are just junk ...  sigh
[14:28] <Saevo> l057c0d3r: what do you want us to tell?
[14:28] <l057c0d3r> saevo.. ahh nothing really..  still fighting to get persistent working
[14:29] <l057c0d3r> on live usb
[14:29] <oldskool_> L3top:
[14:29] <Saevo> l057c0d3r: use kingston
[14:29] <oldskool_> L3top: I was doing right the first time...
[14:30] <Saevo> l057c0d3r: theyre slow, but they never failed me
[14:30] <oldskool_> L3top: THe confusion was that my eth0 wasn't getting a ip and taking on the first dhcp ip from my pool .... I always use static and opened a pool of 10 ip's I planned to use for vm's..
[14:30] <Saevo> bye guys
[14:31] <l057c0d3r> saevo:  yeah..  got one more thing im going to try making a smaller casper-rw file..  if that doesn't work.. i might just install to the usb with no swap and make tmp use tmpfs / ram
[14:31] <oldskool_> L3top: Thanks for the read bro :)
[14:31] <htamayo> quit
[14:34] <Imortalis> boa pessoal
[14:34] <Imortalis> estou a tentar instalar o ubuntu server via pen usb mas da-me sempre erro ?
[14:34] <Imortalis> na altura de verificar os pacotes pelo cdrom, diz que nao enonctra o cdrom
[14:35] <Imortalis> ..
[14:36] <tomreyn> !pt | Imortalis
[14:36] <CTLwm> anyone can recommend a good software to communicate between users in LAN?
[14:36] <L3top> oldskool_ ... not if you are using a single nic. This exposes traffic and is not recommended.   This is not suggested... It is a bad idea. What you're asking to do has a severe overhead, and is not intended for your purposes.
[14:36] <L3top> oh... he gone.
[14:37] <shomon> CTLwm, I used to use talk
[14:39] <BluesKaj> nsudo, sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , add this line to the bottom , options snd_hda_intel index=0 , then save the file and do , sudo also force-reload
[14:40] <install> can anyone help with bootloader installation on 12.04, on top of RAID 0? I can't understand which volume should I select
[14:40] <L3top> nsudo: sudo alsa force-reload ^^ (force-reload can be glitchy... if it pukes errors it is best to reboot)
[14:40] <CTLwm> shomon: talk, what? any full name?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> nsudo, correction , sudo alsa force-reload
[14:43] <eduard> I seem to be missing var/www
[14:43] <BluesKaj> nsudo, actually before the reload do . sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[14:44] <jrib> eduard: what makes you think that?
[14:44] <eduard> when I go to the var directory and type ls it doesnt show
[14:44] <jrib> eduard: what does "ls -ld /var/www/" return?
[14:45] <eduard> ls -ld /var/www/
[14:45] <eduard> makes
[14:46] <eduard> No such file or directory
[14:46] <jrib> eduard: how did you install ubuntu?
[14:46] <K4k> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my Macbook Air 4.2 and I've noticed that tripple clicking on text, the URL bar in firefox, for example, it does not highlight the entire text as it does in Ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop. Does anyone have information on whether the MBA has issues with this, google searches have not pulled up anything so far.
[14:46] <jrib> eduard: and have you installed apache?
[14:46] <Imortalis> hello
[14:46] <Imortalis>  <Imortalis> how can install zentyal from usb pen drive ?
[14:46] <Imortalis> hello
[14:46] <Imortalis>  <Imortalis> how can install zentyal from usb pen drive ?
[14:46] <Imortalis> hello, i try to install ubuntu server 12.04 from usb pen drive
[14:46] <FloodBot1> Imortalis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:47] <Imortalis> error when try cdrom drive
[14:47] <jrib> Imortalis: not sure why you thought that would be a good idea, but please don't do it again
[14:50] <eduard> ls: cannot access /var/www/: No such file or director
[14:50] <eduard> to be precise
[14:51] <jrib> eduard: and have you installed apache or some other web server?
[14:51] <eduard> I just tried to install apache
[14:51] <eduard> and I got some error things
[14:52] <jrib> eduard: you should pastebin
[14:52] <eduard> I installed ubuntu years ago thru my vista
[14:52] <eduard> as dual boo
[14:52] <eduard> t
[14:53] <install> can anyone help with bootloader installation on 12.04, on top of RAID 0? I can't understand which volume should I select
[14:53] <OpenbsdVbox> eduard: years ago? then the version you are using is probably no longer supported
[14:53] <K4k> install: are you using the onboard RAID controller on the motherboard of your computer or a seperate RAID card?
[14:53] <eduard> yes I know thats why im trying to upgrade, I found this guide online
[14:54] <install> K4k: onboard AMD 880
[14:54] <dr_willis> eduard:  you did a WUBI install inside windows?
[14:54] <OpenbsdVbox> eduard: much more straightforward to install afresh
[14:54] <io2> hi, I have been told that ubuntu is to become ads - supported, is this true?
[14:55] <dr_willis> heard from whom?
[14:55] <eduard> I cant its a laptop and my cd thing is messed up and this is now the only os I have on here
[14:55] <io2> hmm slashdot, reddit, etc
[14:55] <K4k> install: and, with RAID setup you still see two seperate disks?
[14:55] <dr_willis> eduard:  boot/install from usb?
[14:56] <ampd> dr_willis: the amazon lens
[14:56] <eduard> that could work xD
[14:56] <io2> so, is this true or is it much ado about nothing?
[14:56] <ampd> io2: it will be installed by default in unity
[14:56] <ampd> io2: you can uninstall it
[14:56] <eduard> dr_willis: thank you
[14:56] <ampd> io2: i use awesome wm with ubuntu, so it won't effect me at all
[14:56] <dr_willis> i dont consider the amazon lense to be 'ad supported'
[14:56] <install> K4k: I actually see 6 possible choices after it fails to find /dev/sda . Googled around and the output of /dev/mapper is paste.ubuntu.com/1222659/
[14:57] <io2> what's the purpose of having it installed by default then?
[14:57] <install> io2: money ;)
[14:57] <dr_willis> unless we get special offer  wallpaper.
[14:57] <io2> install: of course
[14:57] <jrib> io2: as I understand it, it's basically like when you do a google search and you get relevant results from amazon on the side...
[14:57] <ampd> io2: probably money, i assume it's like when you install something and they have the check box for google bar or something on by default
[14:57] <io2> i see
[14:57] <dr_willis> amazon lens is the sort of thing i would install sounds like.
[14:58] <io2> is there going to be a respin of ubuntu removing that by default?
[14:58] <io2> and all the "ads - related" stuff that might pour in?
[14:58] <dr_willis> i got most evey lens installed that i can find
[14:58] <ampd> dr_willis: i'm not opposed to it, but i wouldn't want everything i search for in launcher going to amazon. i'd rather have something separate
[14:58] <K4k> install: what is the output of "fdisk -l"
[14:59] <install> K4k: nothing
[14:59] <dr_willis> you click on the amazon/shopping icon i imagine and you search amazon.. same as the askubuntu.com lens works now i imagine
[14:59] <OpenbsdVbox> install: sudo fdisk -l
[14:59] <dr_willis> a 'shopping' lens with scopes for different online stores..
[14:59] <K4k> OpenbsdVbox: oh, thank you XD
[14:59] <ampd> dr_willis: it loads in launcher when you search for something if you scroll down
[14:59] <io2> isn't this somewhat awkward?
[15:00] <K4k> I always forget about that, I just assume people troubleshoot after having run sudo -i
[15:00] <install> OpenbsdVbox: K4k fdisk: unable to seek on /dev/sda: Invalid argument
[15:00] <OpenbsdVbox> K4k: sudo -i is hardly ever neccessary
[15:00] <dr_willis> how it will be finalized - i imagine remains to be seen
[15:00] <K4k> OpenbsdVbox: to each his/her own I suppose.
[15:01] <io2> dr_willis: is there any petition online to sign against such a feature?
[15:01] <gotgnu> I have a windows phone 7 is there a way to sync music with ubuntu?
[15:01] <dr_willis> io2:  no idea. ubuntu is not a democracy
[15:01] <install> K4k: yes, but sometimes while troubleshooting with -i you can make even a bigger mess if you're not carefull
[15:01] <K4k> true
[15:02] <io2> dr_willis: heh
[15:02] <io2> right
[15:02] <dr_willis> and lens and scopes are normally easy to remove
[15:02] <dr_willis> we need a lens lens to help find more lens....
[15:03] <K4k> install: so, I've run into this before and I'm trying to find the documentation I had at the time. Basically, Ubuntu is seeing it as a software based raid. Try hunting around for info regarding grub2 and dm-raid. I'm coming up empty so far though (at least anything recent/relevant)
[15:04] <dr_willis> im glad the askubuntu lens/scope is in the default 12.10
[15:04] <OpenbsdVbox> !raid | K4k
[15:04] <K4k> OpenbsdVbox: heh, I really need to learn to operate ubottu :)
[15:05] <install> K4k: am i going to have lower performance, or maybe try to load some driver?
[15:06] <ampd> dr_willis: any interesting lens' you can recommend?
[15:06] <elaminato> hey. I am looking for a browser which works in the shell for ubuntu 12.04? is there such thing? :D
[15:06] <OpenbsdVbox> !browser | elaminato
[15:06] <jonysiguel> ummm, not that I know of
[15:06] <melkor> It turns out the HDD enclosure I bought, doesn't work with ubuntu and will ruin hard drive partitions when it is mounted. Does anybody know of a good hdd enclosure that works with linux?
[15:07] <dr_willis> ampd i seem to use the askubuntu lens in here like every 5 min. ;) they got a list of lens there alsi i recall
[15:07] <dr_willis> melkor:  weird.. ive nevere seen one NOT work reguardless of os.
[15:08] <ampd> dr_willis: hah, thanks, i'll take a look. still havent warmed up to unity yet
[15:08] <dr_willis> melkor:  and ive used dozens of them over the years
[15:08] <K4k> install: I honestly don't know. I stopped using fake/soft raid in favor of "zfs for linux" a while back. I don't know if that's officially supported under Ubuntu though because it's still in a < v.1 RC status, according to the project page.
[15:09] <melkor> dr_willis: my partitions will get created by gparted, and then if I unmount and mount again, they are gone.
[15:09] <melkor> dr_willis: it works fine in windows and the drive never had a problem before I put it in the enclosure.
[15:09] <sayers> HDD issues...
[15:10] <dr_willis> melkor:  err.. you do use the 'apply/write changes' button? ;)
[15:10] <OpenbsdVbox> melkor: are you sure you are applying the changes from gparted
[15:10] <OpenbsdVbox> dr_willis: read my mind :)
[15:10] <melkor> OpenbsdVbox: yes
[15:11] <dr_willis> unless the enclosure has some sort of av/mbr protection. ;)
[15:11] <melkor> dr_willis: absolutely, I have formated it numerous times, I have even briefly written to it afterwards. It alwas fails.
[15:11] <dr_willis> i have seen enclousres not supply enough power and be flakey
[15:11] <OpenbsdVbox> melkor: sounds like a make to avoid in the future
[15:12] <melkor> Some othe people have had the same problem in the amazon reviews.
[15:12] <melkor> dr_willis: this has a two pronged usb port.
[15:12] <melkor> I haven't tried plugging in both prongs.
[15:13] <melkor> Do you have a recommended brand of enclosure?
[15:13] <dr_willis> ive seen hd enclousere not work unless both are in..
[15:13] <dr_willis> expecialy with higher speed hds
[15:14] <dr_willis> i tend to use the bigger powered enclosures. not really worth the $$/time to put a hd in a portable enclosure. unless its a hd i allready have
[15:15] <dr_willis> i must have 10+ external usb hds....
[15:15] <dr_willis> 4+ are of the portable type
[15:16] <dr_willis> iomega brand has issues.. had to return one segate for a new one. i think i got an old old segate thats dieing now.  but it dies then comes back. ;)
[15:20] <dr_willis> bbl
[15:21] <Sonderblade> is there a plugin to get chromium to play silverlight on ubuntu?
[15:21] <OpenbsdVbox> !moonlight | Sonderblade
[15:22] <Sonderblade> apt-get can't find that package
[15:22] <OpenbsdVbox> Sonderblade: best to avoid silverlight altogether
[15:22] <OpenbsdVbox> !find moonlight
[15:22] <xangua> OpenbsdVbox: Sonderblade moonlight is an abandoned project
[15:22] <OpenbsdVbox> xangua: ah
[15:23] <d3bug> Moonlight also happens to be the name of a TV show I like. :)
[15:23] <Sonderblade> xangua: so there is no way?
[15:23] <OpenbsdVbox> xangua: that factiod needs removing/revising then
[15:28] <u42p> hi, i understand ufw is a ubuntu thing? how can i make it not spam dmesg but log to a file instead?
[15:28] <OpenbsdVbox> !ufw | u42p
[15:28] <defaultro> hey folks, i would like to install ubuntu. However, the fonts is what always make me worry. I got used to Windows font being nicer
[15:29] <Guest19287> moirzesz
[15:29] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: whats wrong with the fonts?
[15:29] <defaultro> also, Microsoft Office, what's the very closest I can use?
[15:29] <dr_willis> defaultro:  cant say ive noticed windows fonts being nicer. at least not in yeaaars.
[15:29] <dr_willis> defaultro:  libreoffice is the standard
[15:29] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: libreoffice is an alternative
[15:30] <defaultro> OpenbsdVbox, I haven't used ubuntu. The xorg I am used to is not nice
[15:30] <defaultro> cool
[15:30] <dr_willis> 'the xorg' ?
[15:30] <defaultro> the gui
[15:30] <Pinkamena_D> hello, i am a sort of gamer transferring over to linux. I am trying to get one of my favorites, haloCE (the first one) on ubuntu. I have followed several online guides on how to do this using WINE and it installs ok but after loading the graphics driver does not seem to work, it shows a black screen or weird lines and shapes with the background menu music.
[15:30] <defaultro> the display manager
[15:30] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: what was the last time you tried linux?
[15:30] <defaultro> i'm a command line user in linux
[15:30] <dr_willis> desktops are  easially changed
[15:30] <Pinkamena_D> i have a Mobility Radeon X1300 card
[15:30] <defaultro> i started using linuix sinc 1994
[15:31] <defaultro> but 95% command line and not X
[15:31] <defaultro> does  libreoffice come with ubuntu?
[15:31] <dr_willis> at least you should know linux fundamentals. ;)
[15:31] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: so you just don't like the console font?
[15:31] <defaultro> yes
[15:31] <dr_willis> defaultro:  libreoffice is the standard default office suit
[15:32] <defaultro> dr_willis, I know the command lines very well
[15:32] <defaultro> can I exchange files between microsoft office?
[15:32] <dr_willis> libreoffica is avail for windows also
[15:32] <u42p> OpenbsdVbox: cheers, that only talks about toggling logging, no mention of logging to a file
[15:32] <AndrewM_> Hello I've got bind9 configured on two ubuntu 12.02 servers. Each server is in a different domain and has a masters zone which works happily for its respective domain. I've added forwarders on each to point to the other server so that they can queries for the other domain get forwarded to the other server. Unfortunantly I cannot get it to work. I have also tried adding specific forwarder zones for the other domain to each with no ava
[15:32] <defaultro> i mean, is the doc, xls file compatible?
[15:32] <AndrewM_> s? Help/advice appreciated. Can share configs if required.
[15:33] <OpenbsdVbox> u42p: sorry, i just showed you the factoid to tell you that ufw is for managing the firewall (not just a "ubuntu thing")
[15:34] <u42p> OpenbsdVbox: oh i know. it is made by canonical though, that's what i meant. i use it on a non-ubuntu box
[15:34] <defaultro> what is a nice gui interface?
[15:34] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: libreoffice is as close as you will get to being compatible with microsoft office
[15:34] <defaultro> cool
[15:34] <dr_willis> defaultro: try the default unity
[15:34] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: depends what you like
[15:34] <defaultro> it's because the people who will be using this box is my wife and kids
[15:35] <defaultro> maybe Windows like interface
[15:35] <dr_willis> lubuntu is close to the old win95 type desktop. unity is more mondern
[15:35] <dr_willis> both can be installed..
[15:35] <defaultro> unity then is what I should go
[15:35] <defaultro> cool
[15:35] <BluesKaj> unity is modern ? ...hehe
[15:35] <defaultro> they're currently using windows 7
[15:35] <dr_willis> just pick what to use at login screen
[15:35] <defaultro> ah, cool, i'll let them try it then
[15:35] <defaultro> this friggin windows 7 is so full of virus
[15:36] <BluesKaj> defaultro, the closest experience to a windows gui is KDE , IMO
[15:36] <nickjr> ciao!
[15:36] <defaultro> my fedora 12 has been running for almost 3 years now and never slowed down
[15:36] <dr_willis> kde can be confuseing however
[15:36] <nickjr> !list
[15:36] <defaultro> i know kde and gnome
[15:36] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: if your windows 7 has viruses you must be doing something wrong
[15:36] <dr_willis> what is with people going caio,list.....
[15:36] <defaultro> i love enlightenment :P
[15:36] <dr_willis> defaultro:  also installable..
[15:36] <defaultro> will do
[15:37] <dr_willis> i fine 'e'  sort of weird in ways
[15:37] <defaultro> what about mac interface? :p
[15:37] <defaultro> e is very old
[15:37] <Tudu> Hey
[15:37] <dr_willis> buy a mac
[15:37] <dr_willis> E17 i think just had some updates/release last few months
[15:37] <defaultro> what version of firefox is in ubuntu?
[15:38] <defaultro> oh cool
[15:38] <dr_willis> !firefox
[15:38] <OpenbsdVbox> !info firefox | defaultro
[15:38] <defaultro> very cool
[15:38] <crizis> defaultro, current LTS tracks firefox releases, so it has the newest firefox
[15:38] <defaultro> when I update my firefox here in my jurassic fedora, it stops working until i restore the old version
[15:38] <defaultro> cool crizis
[15:38] <ToxicFrog> Having a bit of a bluetooth problem with 12.04.1
[15:39] <defaultro> i really heard good things about ubuntu and will definitely install it today
[15:39] <ToxicFrog> It can pair with my phone just fine, and send files to it. Can't browse it, but the phone doesn't support OBEX FTP, so that's expected.
[15:39] <ToxicFrog> However, when I try to send files from my phone to the computer, I get a generic "transfer failed" message from the phone.
[15:39] <defaultro> where is the safe download site?
[15:39] <nickjr> ciaooo
[15:39] <dr_willis> !download
[15:39] <defaultro> found it
[15:40] <webfox> I figured that in order to console-setup load after a restart I have to type setupcon command. Then I need to from each restart automatically run this command. could someone help me figure where to add this command in order to it load every machine starting please?
[15:40] <nsudo> not helping @Blues
[15:40] <defaultro> this is in topic, ttp://ubottu.com/y/dl
[15:40] <Tudu> Hey
[15:40] <ToxicFrog> Installing obexpushd and running it fixes this - the phone can send files just fine and obexpushd catches it
[15:40] <dr_willis> webfox:  /etc/rc.local perhaps
[15:40] <Tudu> Any one can hear me ???
[15:40] <Tudu> i am new to XChat
[15:40] <webfox> dr_willis, let me test it.
[15:40] <nsudo> Please some one help me fixing my sound issues 12.04
[15:40] <dr_willis> Tudu:  yes
[15:40] <ToxicFrog> However, it would be nice to have this integrated with the rest of the bluetooth stuff - eg, phone sends file, get a confirmation message in the same way I do when it tries to pair, pick a download location
[15:40] <tomreyn> Tudu: not hear, but read
[15:40] <pr0metheu5> So, Ubuntu 12.04 won't detect my nVidia optimus gfx card. I mean, it shows up in lspci, but not in "Additional Drivers," to install and enable it.
[15:40] <ToxicFrog> Is there some package or configuration I'm missing?
[15:41] <Mandalord> !ask
[15:41] <BluesKaj> Tudu, can't you see the text ?
[15:41] <Tudu> Yes Great
[15:41] <dr_willis> pr0metheu5:  for optimus you need to uyse the bumble tools to allow it
[15:41] <Tudu> I can see
[15:41] <ToxicFrog> Or does the default/gnome bluetooth configuration stuff just not support receiving OBEX PUSH, and i'm stuck with running obexpushd by hand?
[15:41] <dr_willis> bulblebee ;)
[15:42] <Tudu> How is ubuntu 12.04 ?
[15:42] <pr0metheu5> dr_willis it used to be, the nVidia drivers would show up in "additional drivers," before. Has anything changed?
[15:42] <nsudo> @BluesKaj please help me sir
[15:42] <dr_willis> bumblebee - i think theres a  wiki \age
[15:42] <OpenbsdVbox> Tudu: try it and find out
[15:42] <dr_willis> pr0metheu5:  with optimus systems...    yes...
[15:42] <BluesKaj> nsudo, didn't you see my posts to you , above ?
[15:42] <dr_willis> pr0metheu5:  with nonoptimus systems...    no...
[15:42] <pr0metheu5> dr_willis, Aah, well, bullocks.   I need a disaster recovery plan and implementation for the Server (user data backups are automatic), users use the server for storing only data and using DaviCal calendar system.  Ideal would be a way to get the server backup and running remotely in the event of a hardware failure. (assuming someone who would replace hardware does not know much about Ubuntu server).
[15:43] <dr_willis> and i hear optimus/bumblebee is getting good
[15:43] <pr0metheu5> dr_willis, yes, it has come a long way.
[15:43] <defaultro> looks like my download is from uk. it's 98k/sec :(
[15:43] <pr0metheu5> dr_willis thanks for your help, sir.
[15:43] <tomreyn> ToxicFrog: sounds like you want to script this. i don't know ehther there are hooks in gnome or elsewhere to trigger the script, though, so you might need to click on a button
[15:43] <BluesKaj> nsudo, sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , add this line to the bottom , options snd_hda_intel index=0 , then save the file and do , sudo  modprobe snd_hda_intel , then reboot
[15:43] <dr_willis> defaultro:  thats why the factoid suggested torrents
[15:43] <tomreyn> ToxicFrog: but then there are hooks for almost everything
[15:43] <nsudo> yo
[15:44] <defaultro> k
[15:44] <ToxicFrog> tomreyn: script what, the launching of obexpushd?
[15:44] <tomreyn> ToxicFrog: yes
[15:44] <ToxicFrog> Yeah, I can do that, I was wondering if there was official push-receive support I just can't figure out how to enable or something
[15:44] <Tudu> I am alrady using ubuntu 12.04 :) Coool :P
[15:44] <defaultro> I don't see torrent links here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[15:44] <webfox> Ubuntu 12.04 rocks! ;)
[15:44] <tomreyn> ToxicFrog: i couldn't tell, maybe someone else can. have you checked the community help wiki, yet?
[15:45] <OpenbsdVbox> !torrents | defaultro
[15:45] <puppy_parade> I'm trying to map a keyboard page back/page fwd button in vim, but when I try to get the key code using ctrl V. it doesn't work.
[15:45] <puppy_parade> I have the X keycode, can I use that for mappings in vim?
[15:45] <defaultro> thanks muc
[15:45] <defaultro> h
[15:46] <defaultro> I also found this, not sure, if it's good. I see torrent files - http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/
[15:46] <ToxicFrog> tomreyn: yeah, it was...not helpful.
[15:46] <OpenbsdVbox> defaultro: yes, thats the official site
[15:46] <defaultro> File not found - http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/precise/desktop/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[15:47] <ToxicFrog> tomreyn: it has a lot of information, but all of it is for solving problems I don't have; AFAICT there's nothing on OBEX PUSH support.
[15:47] <nsudo> @blues sound still shows output as dummy device
[15:47] <nsudo> i did as you instructed sir
[15:47] <ToxicFrog> (or, well, receiving it; there's stuff on getting it working for sending, but that's already working for me)
[15:47] <Z0oM> hi
[15:47] <defaultro> i'm good now
[15:48] <webfox> dr_willis, did not work.
[15:49] <webfox> where do I put a command in order to it execute each machine boot ?
[15:49] <defaultro> nice 5 mins remaining
[15:50] <jrib> webfox: what kind of command?
[15:51] <webfox> jrib setupcon
[15:51] <webfox> jrib, I think it loads or reloads the console-setup
[15:52] <jrib> webfox: is there a reason you are not using /etc/default/console-setup?
[15:52] <daddy> thats too much to type...
[15:53] <webfox> jrib, I am, but it does not keep the setting from one restart to another.
[15:53] <tomreyn> ToxicFrog: since obexpushd is a daemon, does it have an init script? and if so, how about starting it whenever your system enters the multi-user init stage?
[15:54] <tomreyn> ToxicFrog: that's still not integration, but at least receiving files should work by default then, i guess.
[15:54] <nsudo> @blueskaj what do i do now
[15:54] <webfox> jrib, I would have to load it manually each new restart. The file is ok but it is not used during boot, then I need to open it every once I boot the machine or setupcon command.
[15:54] <ToxicFrog> tomreyn: it doesn't, but it wouldn't be hard to write one.
[15:55] <tomreyn> i bet
[15:55] <jrib> webfox: have you tried running « sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup »
[15:55] <ToxicFrog> A better approach, I think, would be to - as you suggested earlier - hook it up via gnome so that it launches when a device is paired with and exits when unpaired
[15:55] <BluesKaj> nsudo, did you follow the suggestion i gave you , above ?
[15:55] <Aster|Lost> So, I did something. And now I can't login anymore.. My password is correct, and when I type it into the startup login prompt thing, it just gives me a blank screen before setting me back to the login screen... However, logging in to the guest account works fine..
[15:55] <ToxicFrog> And for bonus points, pipe it through something that can ask for confirmation when receiving files
[15:55] <webfox> jrib, yes, this is the way I configure it. But after a restart everything comes back as was before.
[15:55] <nsudo> yes, i did a restart but it still shows dummy device
[15:55] <ToxicFrog> Assuming, of course, that the necessary hooks exist in gnome.
[15:55] <nsudo> i followed al instructions
[15:56] <jrib> webfox: hmm, that shouldn't be happening
[15:56] <matthew117> list/
[15:56] <OpenbsdVbox> Aster|Lost: might be helpful to know what it was you did
[15:56] <jrib> webfox: maybe try doing a « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[15:56] <Aster|Lost> OpenbsdVbox, I attempted to start X on display 2 in TTY 1.
[15:57] <landi> Hey there, i have a problem after the newest LTS update. My system starts but all i can see is a black screen and a blinking cursor. Ctrl+Alt+F1-4 doesn't work anymore. Someone help me please?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> I'm talking about the remote pc , correct , nsudo ?
[15:57] <tech936> im guessing the ubuntu server irc is ubunuserver?
[15:58] <OpenbsdVbox> !server | tech936
[15:58] <webfox> jrib, already running.
[15:58] <nsudo> ya
[15:58] <OpenbsdVbox> !nomodeset | landi
[15:58] <BluesKaj> can you reboot a remote pc , or is the pc close to you  , nsudo?
[15:59] <melkor>  Anybody know what I can do about wireless that cuts out?
[15:59] <nsudo> its a pc close to me
[15:59] <jrib> webfox: you're on 12.04?  There are some bugs on earlier versions regarding console-setup
[15:59] <nsudo> not remote
[15:59] <landi> Thank you ubottu, i'll read that
[15:59] <webfox> jrib, yes 12.04 Server
[15:59] <tomreyn> ToxicFrog: in case you're currently using bluez-gnome, try replacing it with gnome-bluetooth and see if this helps
[16:00] <BluesKaj> nsudo, pls use my nick so i can see it ..my nick will highkight
[16:00] <John> Hello, i have a jpg image and i want it to fill more then 1 page. How would i get it to print?
[16:00] <jrib> webfox: well you can probably workaround it by putting setupcon in your /etc/rc.local but it really should be working without needing that.  You should consider filing a bug
[16:00] <nsudo> ok
[16:01] <ToxicFrog> tomreyn: already using gnome-bluetooth. This is a clean install of 12.04, so
[16:01] <tomreyn> okay, was just a guess
[16:01] <xangua> tomreyn: doesn's both use bluez¿
[16:02] <nsudo> BluesKaj so how do we take this forward now
[16:02] <BluesKaj> nsudo, I suggest you install pavucontrol , it can help
[16:03] <decci> We want to set up a simple service that when you send an email and will hold the email for a certain amount of time and then forward it.
[16:03] <nsudo> BluesKaj Ok
[16:04] <john____> hello, i have a jpg image how would i get  it to fill 4 pages, huge
[16:05] <webfox> jrib, it do not work either if I add setupcon on /etc/rc.local
[16:05] <webfox> s/do/does
[16:05] <jrib> webfox: you added it before the exit line?
[16:05] <webfox> jrib, yes
[16:07] <AaronCampbell> When I used to type a command in terminal that wasn't valid it would say "command not found" and suggest packages that contained that command.  On a new install I don't get any suggestions.  Is there a package I can install that will put that back?
[16:07] <jrib> AaronCampbell: command-not-found
[16:07] <nsudo> BluesKaj I have installed via Synaptic do i restart now?
[16:08] <jrib> webfox: I don't know what the right way to fix your issue is.  It sounds like a bug to be honest
[16:08] <jrib> webfox: remove it from your rc.local.  Have you tried the --save-only option to setupcon?
[16:09] <webfox> jrib, no, I just use setupcon --save-only ?
[16:09] <AaronCampbell> jrib: I just checked and it looks like that's installed
[16:09] <kodo_> hi everybody
[16:09] <jrib> webfox: I think so.  Again, I have no experience with this
[16:10] <jrib> webfox: I see that /etc/init/console-setup.conf just loads some keymap that's saved.  And I think that setupcon --save-only will save your settings to the right place.  But I'd also expect for the dpkg-reconfigure console-setup to do all this for you
[16:10] <nsudo> BluesKaj I have installed via Synaptic do i restart now?
[16:10] <jrib> AaronCampbell: you need to make sure your shell is sourcing the relevant config file
[16:10] <kodo_> i've just installed shockwave plugin but when i try to use youtube it cannot  load the plug in..anyone can help me?
[16:11] <OpenbsdVbox> !flash | kodo_
[16:11] <webfox> jrib, well, lets see what happens. Just used --save-only option
[16:11] <BluesKaj> nsudo, no , open pavucontrol and set up your outputs , alt+f2 pavucontrol
[16:12] <smcs> list
[16:13] <AaronCampbell> Thanks jrib ... I got it working.  I appreciate the help
[16:13] <webfox> jrib, no. did not solve it.
[16:14] <jrib> webfox: can you describe exactly what doesn't work?  Are you modifying the font or just modifying the keymap?  (bear with me as I'm not familiar with setupcon and console-setup)
[16:14] <webfox> jrib, I am just changing the default font type and size.
[16:15] <nsudo> BluesKaj: still dummy sound device
[16:16] <nsudo> BluesKaj: still dummy sound device
[16:16] <BluesKaj> nsudo, you left too soon , have some patience please , , open pavucontrol and set up your outputs , alt+f2 pavucontrol
[16:19] <nsudo> BluesKaj: No output device available
[16:19] <l057c0d3r> just wanted to thank everyone for the help earlier.. i actually figured out the problem finally.. and got persistence working on my lubuntu live usb..  also got password added to lubuntu live session account and got my account added and set to auto login :-)
[16:19] <nsudo> BluesKaj: No output device available; only virtual device is shown as Dummy Output
[16:20] <l057c0d3r> decided to try and make the casper-rw file from 4 gb to 3.  even though it said it supported up to 4 on fat32.  and it worked
[16:20] <nsudo> BluesKaj: No output device available; Hardware output devices are none
[16:20] <l057c0d3r> so a gig less space.. but oh well... i can use another usb to store personal files if needed... since i dont want to use the hdd.,  because i want it to be a portable system
[16:22] <jrib> webfox: what changes do you make exactly?  I'll try here and see what happens
[16:22] <BluesKaj> nsudo , lsmod | grep snd , paste the output , I need to know if the kernel module even exists
[16:24] <nsudo> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/CSdr9u02
[16:25] <nsudo> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/CSdr9u02
[16:26] <peak> I recently install fedora on ubuntu (dualboot ) , After installing fedora i can´t login ubuntu .Help me out !!!
[16:26] <nsudo> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/CSdr9u02
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> peak, Is the fedora wheezy?
[16:28] <peak> wilee-nilee: fedora 17( yum based )
[16:28] <l057c0d3r> well thanks again for the help....  may not have found the answer... but at least you all pointed me in the right direction and i cant thank you enough for that... happy as hell right now.. take it easy all.. and good luck with your linux adventures
[16:29] <wilee-nilee> peak, oops Thats a debian release my mistake, fedora has the grub control?
[16:30] <nsudo> BluesKaj did you manage to look at the pastebin
[16:30] <BluesKaj> nsudo, try this , sudo modprobe snd_hda_codec , then , sudo alsa force-reload , if there's no output after the force reload , then reboot
[16:31] <UbuntuNoob> Hello, I'm having difficulty installing ubuntu
[16:31] <peak> wilee-nilee: fedora is not debian based .I just want to know how to configure grub so that i can have my ubuntu back
[16:31] <nsudo> BluesKaj Yo
[16:31] <BluesKaj> nsudo, yo ?
[16:32] <AaronCampbell> Under the little gear icon in the top right in 12.04 there was an option to set startup applications.  On a fresh install of 12.10 it's not.  Am I just missing a package?  Or did it move?
[16:32] <OpenbsdVbox> !12.10 | AaronCampbell
[16:32] <nsudo> BluesKaj I am rebooting now
[16:33] <UbuntuNoob> I downloaded the 12.04 ISO, and used Daemon Tools Pro to burn it onto a DVD. I booted my computer from the disk and checked it for defaults, of which there are none. I go to install alongside Windows 7. It brings up a Command Line Interface with a load of text, ejects the disk  and says "Please remove installation media and close the tray (if any) then press ENTER
[16:33] <nsudo> BluesKaj I am rebooting now its says unloading and loading alsa
[16:33] <UbuntuNoob> How can I fix this?
[16:33] <blast_hardcheese> UbuntuNoob: Don't put that DVD in the drive on boot
[16:34] <blast_hardcheese> problem solved
[16:34] <UbuntuNoob> Then where do I boot from?
[16:34] <blast_hardcheese> oh, good point.
[16:34] <UbuntuNoob> The only other option is to launch Windows 7
[16:34] <blast_hardcheese> oh dear, don't do that.
[16:35] <UbuntuNoob> Is booting from the LiveCD not how its installed?
[16:35] <OpenbsdVbox> !install | UbuntuNoob
[16:35] <wilee-nilee> peak, actually fedoras is debian based.  I have had problems my self with the way fedora 17's grub is set up and running with ubuntu, not sure I have any real answers for you.
[16:35] <OpenbsdVbox> wilee-nilee: fedora is red hat based
[16:36] <UbuntuNoob> Yes, I've read that, and I've followed the instructions, but it just ejects the disk and reboots...
[16:36] <peak> wilee-nilee: Ok !
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> ah that is right it is redhatI forgot openbsdnoob
[16:36] <nsudo> BluesKaj: no luck
[16:36] <bobweaver> hello there I am trying to play a older game that uses directX8.1   I have installed that(directx9) using wine tricks but I am still getting the same error. any ideas ?
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> OpenbsdVbox, that is a nick just like another thanks for your input. ;)
[16:36] <OpenbsdVbox> !appdb | bobweaver
[16:37] <peak> wilee-nilee: yup ! it based on REDHAT
[16:37] <BluesKaj> nsudo, if you are working on a remote pc , why are you rebooting this one ?
[16:38] <UbuntuNoob> Can Ubuntu be burned onto a DVD? Or must it be a CD?
[16:38] <nsudo> this is my pc there is no remote pc , i said if u can help me with this via remote connect
[16:38] <webfox> jrib, I changed the font to Terminus and font-size to 12x6. Just it.
[16:38] <nsudo> this is my pc there is no remote pc , i said if u can help me with this via remote connect @BluesKaj sorry
[16:38] <OpenbsdVbox> UbuntuNoob: either should work fine (a dvd might be a bit of a waste though)
[16:39] <develop7> Hello all
[16:39] <bobweaver> UbuntuNoob,  as of 12.10 it will not fit on cd anymore
[16:39] <UbuntuNoob> Well, it's not working, when I go to install alongside windows it opens a CLI, ejects the disk and restarts the computer and boots into Windows 7. Not what I want.
[16:39] <bobweaver> server will still though
[16:40] <bobweaver> UbuntuNoob,  how new is this computer ?
[16:40] <UbuntuNoob> I bought it 1 month ago, a HP Pavillion G6 with Windows 7
[16:40] <bobweaver> UbuntuNoob,  is it new enough to have windows secure boot ?
[16:40] <crizis> you can just put ubuntu on usb stick.. no need for dvd or cd
[16:40] <bobweaver> is that out yet ?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> nsudo, well i'm out of ideas , but try to configure your phonon and pavucontrol again
[16:41] <MrELusiveone> how well does the usb ver of ubuntu installer work?
[16:41] <bobweaver> UbuntuNoob,  did you check the MD5Sum ?
[16:41] <peak> can´t see ubuntu option in fedora grub loader .I install fedora 17 on ubuntu and after installation i can switch to ubuntu .Please help me out .I want to use both linux
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> peak, Have you tried the #fedora channel as well, they are a bit snarky there but it may help.
[16:42] <webfox> jrib, I think it has something to do with grub vga=XXX
[16:42] <UbuntuNoob> bobweaver I don't think it has secure boot
[16:42] <bobweaver> peak,  re-install grub to Ubuntu then scan again
[16:42] <UbuntuNoob> bobweaver whats MD5Sum?
[16:42] <bobweaver> peak,  from a live cd
[16:42] <MrELusiveone> how well does the usb ver of ubuntu installer work?
[16:42] <bobweaver> !md5sum | UbuntuNoob
[16:42] <nsudo> BluesKaj Thanks for all those ideas! does anyone know how to configure the sound
[16:43] <peak> bobweaver: UBUNTU live CD or fidora LIVE CD
[16:43] <bobweaver> peak,  Ubuntu
[16:43] <bobweaver> well whatever just re-install grub to your Ubuntu partition
[16:43] <bobweaver> peak,  ^&^
[16:43] <BluesKaj> nsudo, you may have a broken soundcard
[16:43] <nsudo> does anyone know how to configure the sound! pls intel hda does not fix in 12.04
[16:43] <UbuntuNoob> I'll check it now bobweaver
[16:44] <nsudo> BluesKaj: Its onboard
[16:44] <BluesKaj> nsudo, , but good luck
[16:44] <peak> bobweaver: Hope it works
[16:44] <bobweaver> nsudo,  open terminal enter in   "aplay -l "    PASTEBIN that for us to see
[16:44] <bobweaver> peak there is tutorial about that ... too late
[16:45] <nsudo> bobweaver: k
[16:45] <UbuntuNoob> bobweaver the sum is e235b63c02644e219b7bf3668f479c9e
[16:45] <sdia> hello everybody !
[16:45] <bobweaver> UbuntuNoob,  then check it :)
[16:46] <UbuntuNoob> How?
[16:46] <nsudo> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/Qpa1h7PF
[16:46] <nsudo> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/Qpa1h7PF
[16:46] <sdia> while moving my .thunderbird  from win to ubuntu i have some freqent freeze.
[16:46] <sdia> does anyone face the same problem here ?
[16:47] <bobweaver> nsudo,  that is not good haow about a   "lspci -vnn "
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> bobweaver, It appears that with Fedora 17 which I have had problems with in tandom with ubuntu and I know grub quite well, needs a mounted of the other when updating grub.  http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=279221
[16:47] <killer_> how do i change lightdm with mdm(mate display manager).....i have installed mdm but dun know how to use it instead of lightdm
[16:47] <UbuntuNoob> bobweaver how to check the sum?
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> bobweaver, Just passing it on if peak comes back
[16:48] <UbuntuNoob> bobweaver its correct, now what? It still ejects the DVD when I go to install alongside windows 7
[16:49] <nsudo> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/Ni7JYeHp lspci -vnn
[16:49] <bobweaver> wilee-nilee,  Thanks yeah I had the same trouble like 2  months ago, once secure boot happenes it is going  to be even better for newer people to *nix
[16:50] <nsudo> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/Ni7JYeHp
[16:53] <bobweaver> nsudo,  apt-cache policy libpulse[0..9]  && apt-cache search indicator-sound   << pastebin please
[16:54] <bobweaver> nsudo,  sorry typo
[16:54] <bobweaver> nsudo,  apt-cache policy libpulse[0..9]  && apt-cache policy indicator-sound   << pastebin please
[16:54] <nsudo> bobweaver: ok
[16:55] <nsudo> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/FxPG3mWd
[16:56] <bobweaver> !bug 126157 | nsudo
[16:56] <bobweaver> that looks old but that is your card
[16:57] <bobweaver> nsudo,  what kernel are you useing ?   (uname -r)
[16:57] <nsudo> bobweaver: 3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[16:58] <bobweaver> huh
[16:58] <akis> any idea on how can i run an application on gnome through terminal but permenently just clicking its icon, like its possible under xubuntu where from main menu with a right click on the icon i can take the option 'run in terminal'. how can i do the same under gnome?
[16:58] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: why haven't you updated at all?
[16:59] <bobweaver> nsudo,  is alsa-base or alsa-utils installed ?
[17:00] <nsudo> alsa base
[17:00] <tech936> looking for Ubuntu admins anyone Want to join a Network team msg me
[17:00] <nsudo> bobweaver alsa-base OpenbsdVbox: recon update?
[17:01] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: you are using the kernel that shipped with 12.04 release, why aren't you using the latest one from the repos?
[17:01] <WanMin> hi
[17:01] <OpenbsdVbox> !info linux-generic | nsudo
[17:03] <bobweaver> !info alacarte
[17:03] <bobweaver> dude that was asking about menu scripts ^^
[17:05] <nsudo> i am doing it now \
[17:05] <bobweaver> weer my scroll will not work in my irc client
[17:09] <tyhgvg> well there is a bubuntu os and it cannot read ebooks. what to do?
[17:13] <scatterp> Hi can some one help me install this i think i am missing a repository https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/bitlbee-skype/0.8.4-0ubuntu1
[17:14] <bobweaver> scatterp,  can you please open your terminal and enter in "apt-cache policy skype"   then Pastebin that
[17:15] <scatterp> yes one sec
[17:16] <bobweaver> scatterp,  it has to be bitlbee-skype  or can it just be skype ?
[17:17] <scatterp> Bitlbee-skype
[17:19] <OerHeks> ah i found the bugreport for unity-amazon lens > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-shopping/+bug/1054776
[17:19] <scatterp> Paste.ubuntu.com/1222921
[17:19] <roasted> hi
[17:19] <bobweaver> thanks scatterp
[17:19] <bark> OerHeks: and another: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-shopping/+bug/1054282
[17:20] <bobweaver> scatterp,  32 bit or 64 ?
[17:20] <OerHeks> thanks bark
[17:20] <scatterp> 32
[17:22] <bobweaver> scatterp,  I would try the 2 debian packages on this page  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bitlbee-skype/0.8.4-0ubuntu1/+build/2100238
[17:22] <scatterp> Ok but how ?
[17:22] <tyhgvg> well there is a bubuntu os and it cannot read ebooks. what to do?
[17:22] <OpenbsdVbox> tyhgvg: what is bubuntu?
[17:23] <bobweaver> scatterp,  click on the .deb files to download then open with software center
[17:23] <bobweaver> scatterp,  then install
[17:23] <scatterp> Ok testing
[17:23] <tyhgvg> the distro we're discussion in that one channel
[17:24] <OpenbsdVbox> tyhgvg: this is the ubuntu channel, what is bubuntu?
[17:25] <tyhgvg> bubuntu, smubuntu I don't care. but it cannot read ebooks
[17:25] <Wizrd> Why build a new distro just for reading ebooks?
[17:26] <miraj> tyhgvg , that has more to do with needing a specific app than a problem with the os
[17:26] <llutz> and how is that ubuntu-related?
[17:26] <tyhgvg> even android can!
[17:26] <scatterp-> bobweaver, i tried the package skyped and it came up with an error can not install python:i386
[17:26] <DeltaHeavy> My Chrome tabs aren't moving between window instances under Unity. Anybody know how to fix this?
[17:27] <llutz> !ot | tyhgvg
[17:27] <tyhgvg> you heard my support question. what is the purpose of a desktop os without compartible bookreader apps?
[17:28] <DeltaHeavy> tyhgvh: For other various day-to-day tasks~
[17:28] <llutz> !info fbreader |tyhgvg: stop the misspelling of ubuntu if you want help
[17:29] <tenX> tyhgvg: cant think of anything else but ebooks on a desktop, really
[17:30] <DeltaHeavy> "THIS OPERATING SYSTEM DOES NOT SUPPORT ONE SINGLE FORMAT FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE. I DEEM THIS OPERATING SYSTEM NOT DESKTOP WORTHY"
[17:31] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: is that the case
[17:31] <DeltaHeavy> tenX: It would seem that's what tyhgvg is arguing
[17:31] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: ah.
[17:32] <tyhgvg> llutz: lolwhut? it is fbreader 0.12 there
[17:32] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: more like "its not working. damn"
[17:33] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: gotta complain somewhere
[17:33] <DeltaHeavy> When I'm angry at something not working at least I'd like to think my complaints are more credible :p
[17:33] <ninux> hi everybody! can someone tell me, where the content of an webdirection lays? i have the content on the graphical in nautilus and konqueror but i want to handle them in the terminal. any ideas?
[17:33] <hatman> Can't format because USB drive is busy... what to do?
[17:33] <jrib> ninux: "webdirection" means?
[17:34] <miraj> hatman, something is cd'd to it, probably
[17:34] <hatman> miraj: so do I have to unmount it to format?
[17:34] <miraj> hatman, yes
[17:34] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: that requires some effort being put in the issue
[17:34] <hatman> what was the cmd for that?
[17:34] <miraj> hatman , umount /mntpoint
[17:35] <ninux> jrib: i have some files on my university page and i can open them in the browser or "open as webdirection"
[17:35] <CellTech> Does the u1 program let you upload 1 single file? I don't want/need an entire folder backed up
[17:35] <DeltaHeavy> tenX: Eh, bitching about Unity ain't to hard in the couple days I've used it :p. Friggen nice just slow T_T
[17:35] <hatman> miraj: so lets say my drive is called /dev/sdb how do I instantly unmount it from terminal?
[17:35] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: but actually i like the idea to just quit right ahead
[17:36] <miraj> hatman , what is it's moint point? a "df" command should tell you
[17:36] <ninux> jrib: for nautilus i have to hit in "davs://" and for konqueror "webdavs://" at the begin of the adress
[17:36] <hatman> miraj: /dev/sdb1
[17:36] <truexfan81> hatman: sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[17:37] <hatman> thanks truexfan81
[17:37] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: never really been using it. i see the problem not in unity itself but breaking up with what everybody has been used to as default
[17:37] <miraj> hatman , the mount point is listed under "df" as "Mounted on"
[17:38] <DeltaHeavy> tenX: You mean GNOME2?
[17:38] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: people that can deal with it can change but beginners cant
[17:38] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: yeah probably ;)
[17:38] <deadmund> If I create a new .desktop file in ~/.local/share/application what do I need to do to get XFCE to show it in the application menu?
[17:38] <webfox> Could someone tell me a application for converting a music cd to mp3 please?
[17:38] <miraj> lame
[17:38] <DeltaHeavy> tenX: Yeah but GNOME 2 is obsolete now, and replaced with the pile of crap known as GNOME 3.
[17:38] <tenX> webfox: rip
[17:38] <deadmund> webfox: sound-juicer
[17:38] <pth> deadmund: As far as I know drag it into the launcher
[17:39] <webfox> thank you guys!
[17:39] <deadmund> pth: really... lemme try
[17:39] <tenX> DeltaHeavy: okay guess i shouldnt talk about something i have no idea about ;)
[17:39] <miraj> webfox, but ogg files sound better
[17:39] <webfox> miraj, better then mp3 ?
[17:39] <e4g> Just want to make sure I'm thinking correctly: If I want to dual boot Ubuntu and Fedora, on two separate drives, I just need to install Fedora on the second drive and then add it to grub in ubuntu correct?
[17:39] <tyhgvg> fbreader 0.12 is more than 2 years old, and is as usable as gedit to read webpages
[17:40] <deadmund> pth: That isn't working...
[17:40] <miraj> webfox, more people think they sound better than mp3
[17:40] <tyhgvg> is there a normal software?
[17:40] <jrib> ninux: try ~/.gvfs/
[17:40] <tenX> tyhgvg: normal like what?
[17:40] <hatman> miraj: ok, I'm not so good with formatting... I have a super modern Sony dvdplayer and want to see some movie from this usb-drive I just unmounted, I have the choice to unmount it as the following: Master Boot Record|GUID-partitiontable|Don't partition, keep Fat32|Apple Partition map              so which one do I need?
[17:40] <OpenbsdVbox> e4g: essentially yes
[17:40] <webfox> miraj, Mmm, good to know. I will test it. Thank you for the tip.
[17:40] <pth> deadmund: Do I understand you right, that you want an application to start when you press its icon in the launcher?
[17:40] <tyhgvg> normal like supporting formatted text and pictures
[17:41] <hatman> miraj: sorry I meant I have the choice to *format as following
[17:41] <tenX> tyhgvg: no there is no such thing.
[17:41] <miraj> hatman, what filesystem would you like it to be?
[17:41] <hatman> fat32
[17:42] <deadmund> pth: :P  I feel stupid.  I am running xfce but I have the LXDE Panel.  I'm trying to add a launcher to the LXDE panel.  It only allows you to add applications that show up in the menu.  This application (matlab) does not show up in the menu.  I wrote a .desktop file, but it is still not showing up in the menu
[17:42] <miraj> hatman, just a second
[17:42] <rocky> hello
[17:42] <rocky> hello
[17:42] <tenX> tyhgvg: you can either have text OR pictures, not both
[17:42] <pth> deadmund: Stand by.
[17:42] <tyhgvg> tenX: wut?
[17:43] <rocky> i have problem chrome browser problem in ubuntu 12.04. it automatically disappears now it is happening frequently, then i reopen to restore my tabs
[17:43] <deadmund> pth: I just got it.  In the desktop file I had OnlyShowIn=XFCE; set and so it wasn't showing in LXDE.  Removed that, it shows in the menu know.  Problem solved.
[17:43] <deadmund> pth: Thanks for trying though :)
[17:43] <rocky> i have problem chrome browser problem in ubuntu 12.04. it automatically disappears now it is happening frequently, then i reopen to restore my tabs, can someone help to fix this problem?
[17:43] <tenX> tyhgvg: deal with it.
[17:44] <pth> deadmund: Very good.
[17:44] <ninux> jrib: i can navigate to gvfs but i cannot ls anything even if i'm loged in as root its tellin me tha i do not have permission to do anything
[17:44] <tyhgvg> tenX: I won't deal with it, even mobile phones have better readers than fbr 0.12
[17:44] <pth> deadmund: The drag and drop is in Unity. Sorry I misunderstood your question.
[17:44] <miraj> hatman, here's the cmd I tend to use: mkfs.vfat -F32 -n "somelabel" /dev/sdb?
[17:45] <obi> tenX: Stop feeding the troll :p
[17:45] <jrib> ninux: what does "cannot ls anything" mean?
[17:45] <hatman> thank you miraj
[17:45] <deadmund> pth: Yeah, this had nothing to do with unity.  :P
[17:45] <deadmund> pth: Thanks! :)
[17:45] <llutz> tyhgvg: go find another ebook-reader-soft or blame the fbreader-devs who dropped support for nearly all OS except android
[17:45] <tenX> obi: it just happenend :(
[17:46] <rocky> i have problem chrome browser problem in ubuntu 12.04. it automatically disappears now it is happening frequently, then i reopen to restore my tabs, can someone help to fix this problem?
[17:46] <obi> tenX: Lol, I know. They get hungry :)
[17:46] <ninux> if i hit "ls" the output is "not possible: no permission"
[17:46] <pth> rocky: Can you be more specific?
[17:46] <OpenbsdVbox> !info calibre | tyhgvg
[17:46] <rocky> pth, when chrome crashes it does give any error message
[17:47] <Sander__> hello there, can anyone help ne with ndiswrapper on 12.04?
[17:47] <pth> rocky: You mean it just dissapears?
[17:47] <jrib> ninux: ls -ld ~/.gvfs/
[17:47] <tenX> obi: nothing to do, no other right to exist
[17:47] <rocky> pth, i meant disappears
[17:47] <BlackWool> greets to all.
[17:48] <SynrG> in prep to install ubuntu, in win7 using Disk Management, the fool thing refuses to shrink the ~280G partition to anything less than about half the original size, even immediately after defragging (the partition has 254.5G free, which is most of the drive, so I had hoped for far more)
[17:48] <aniasis> Hello
[17:48] <Sander__> hi
[17:48] <aniasis> I am on my VPN using vpnc but I am ping internal IPs with no response
[17:48] <aniasis> anyone experience this before?
[17:49] <tyhgvg> calibre is 114 megabytes: does it work for sure?
[17:49] <Sander__> im new to linux i need my question answered aswell :P
[17:49] <SynrG> any clues as to how to get win7 to reduce the volume size further?
[17:49] <compdoc> vpnc?
[17:49] <hatman> miraj: Ah, screw it, it is way too difficult for me, I don't understand a thing. I used the partitioningtool from the softwarecentrum. Thanks all for the help. Bye
[17:49] <ClientAlive> I don't understand something part of a manual I'm reading. My question is whether the word they're using is to be replaced when you write the actual line of scrip or if the word 'IS' the thing to use. Can someone with more experienfce take a peek at this and help me understand?
[17:49] <jrib> ClientAlive: ask the actual question...
[17:49] <llutz> calibre is not an ebook-reader more a nice tool to manage/convert them, though it has an ebook-viewer built-in
[17:50] <miraj> sorry hatman, I was trying to keep it simply
[17:50] <rocky> pth, does this info helps?
[17:50] <truexfan81> miraj: gparted is simple :)
[17:51] <pth> rocky: There is a lot about chrome crashes out there, maybe you could try a search trying to be as specific as possible.
[17:51] <NastyNaz> when I transfer things over SFTP the rate seems to be capped at around 150 KB/s, anyone know why this could be?
[17:51] <ClientAlive> The manual part is here: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/download/releases/stable/unison-manual.html#merge   they are using the word: current1, current2, currentarchopt, and so on (in the bulleted list). Can soomeone look at this and tell me are those words the actual thing to write in my script or are they like variable and I have to replace them with something?
[17:51] <CPCookieMan> Check your scp config?
[17:51] <CPCookieMan> That or if your on wifi you could actually be maxxing it out
[17:51] <miraj> truexfan81 , but hatman didn't start out talking about partitioning, just formatting
[17:51] <truexfan81> true
[17:52] <truexfan81> but that program does formatting, may be simpler to use it
[17:52] <miraj> true
[17:52] <pth> ClientAlive: Stand by.
[17:52] <tenX> CPCookieMan: why wifi?
[17:52] <ClientAlive> k
[17:52] <rocky> pth, does this info helps?
[17:52] <jrib> ClientAlive: "Within this string, several special substrings are recognized; these will be substituted with appropriate values before invoking a sub-shell to execute the command."
[17:52] <ninux> jrib: the output of ls -ld ~/.gvfs/ is "drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Mai 23 01:35 /root/.gvfs/"
[17:52] <CPCookieMan> tenX: I was talking to nastynaz
[17:52] <jrib> ninux: why are you doing this as root/with sudo...?
[17:53] <aniasis> compdoc vpnc = vpn client
[17:53] <CPCookieMan> I figured his cap might be from wifi, if he's far away from the router or something
[17:53] <CPCookieMan> Could happen
[17:53] <BlackWool> i'm having an issue on macbookpro (ubuntu 12.x). keyboard backlighting resets on boot. any way to save the setting. total noob here.
[17:53] <NastyNaz> CPCookieMan: I've checked both scp and the server is on a 1gig line and im also on a 1gig line. FTP transfers at 90MB/s
[17:53] <tenX> CPCookieMan: ah okay but thats pretty constructed
[17:54] <ClientAlive> jrib: ok, I guess that went over my head when I read it. thx. But now, can you give an example of something you would replace it with (a concrete example)?
[17:54] <bekks> NastyNaz: Which is quite good. Whats the problem with that bandwidth?
[17:54] <CPCookieMan> NastyNaz, Ahh ok, then I have no idea :P
[17:54] <banyantree> Hi Guys =)
[17:54] <compdoc> aniasis, if the vpn is working, you should be able to ping any ip on that lan
[17:54] <NastyNaz> bekks: SFTP transfers ultra slow (125KB/s)
[17:54] <Sander__> can anyone tell me how to install ndiswrapper 1.58rc1 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:54] <CPCookieMan> Firewalls maybe?
[17:54] <CPCookieMan> Only other thing I can think
[17:54] <bekks> NastyNaz: Then ask the ISP(s) wether they slow down SFTP or not.
[17:55] <jrib> ClientAlive: sure, here's what I use: merge = Regex .* -> gvimdiff --nofork CURRENT1 CURRENT2
[17:55] <NastyNaz> bekks: it's on a cogent backbone connection, there's no filtering
[17:55] <ninux> jrib: where is the "sudo"?
[17:55] <jrib> ninux: I didn't say there was one
[17:55] <ClientAlive> jfib: Rereading that quote, I recall why I was confused: because it says "...will be..." replaced. So I thought that the program does the replacing.
[17:55] <bekks> NastyNaz: Did you ask them?
[17:55] <NastyNaz> bekks: yes
[17:55] <tyhgvg> ninux: it is a program which allows arbitrary strangers to be a root on your machine
[17:56] <banyantree> i have a fresh ubuntu 12.04 installation on my dell latitude e5500
[17:56] <jrib> ClientAlive: unison will replace the CURRENT1 placeholder with the name of the local file when it calls the command
[17:56] <banyantree> but it's not as smooth as windows 7
[17:56] <ClientAlive> ohh! ok, So unison is what does the replacing. I wonder where it get the content to replace it with. From the root = preference or something?
[17:56] <CPCookieMan> So here's my problem. One day I restart my MacBook (newest LTS) and now GRUB won't boot to ubuntu. I'll have to get my machine real quick. If someone thinks they can help, PM me. This chatrom is moving fast
[17:56] <banyantree> do i need to install some drivers?
[17:56] <ClientAlive> Yes!  :)
[17:57] <truexfan81> banyantree: can you be more specific? what do you mean by not as smooth?
[17:57] <ClientAlive> wherre does it get the content to replace current1 current2, etc... ?
[17:57] <compdoc> CPCookieMan, boot the ubuntu Live cd and access your files, or even fix grub
[17:57] <jrib> ninux: what I said was that you should be doing this as your regular user
[17:57] <ClientAlive> what are those variables connected to?
[17:57] <tenX> banyantree: you can also wait for windows 7 to slow down
[17:57] <tydynrain> CPCookieMan, downloading and burning Rescatux to a disc, then booting into it can fix your dilemma most likely.
[17:57] <jrib> ninux: which obviously wasn't the case since ~/.gvfs is pointing to /root/.gvfs in what you pasted here
[17:57] <truexfan81> tenX: thats true lol it will happen eventually
[17:58] <_Marcus> I think my AMD graphics drivers are broken, how do I uninstall them?
[17:58] <ClientAlive> maybe it says in the manual there and I missed it. Hang on, let me re-read
[17:58] <banyantree> truexfan81: sometimes its something like micro stutters
[17:58] <tydynrain> synaptic is the easiest manner Marcus
[17:58] <tenX> truexfan81: pretty reliable ;)
[17:58] <CPCookieMan> tydynrain: If only it was that simple. Remember, this is a MacBook, so booting to a CD is REALLY hard.
[17:58] <ninux> jrib: hehe sorry i just had a mental shortcircuit =)
[17:58] <truexfan81> tenX: yeah lol
[17:58] <_Marcus> tydynrain: What is that?
[17:59] <CPCookieMan> Plus my disk drive is actually broken
[17:59] <tydynrain> Synaptic is a package manager
[17:59] <BluesKaj> nsudo, make sure you have alsa-utils installed , I assumed you had it
[17:59] <CPCookieMan> I installed ubuntu using another macbook.
[17:59] <deadmund> _Marcus: what makes you think it's broken?
[17:59] <jrib> ClientAlive: when unison tries to merge file x.jpg on your laptop with file x.jpg on your desktop and there's a conflict, you end up with something like x.jpg.LOCAL and x.jpg.REMOTE (I made this up; I don't remember how exactly the files are named).  And then it passes "x.jpg.LOCAL" instead of "CURRENT1" to your command
[17:59] <tydynrain> available in the official repositories
[17:59] <ClientAlive> jrib: Oh, it does say in the manual - basically its saying (between the lines) that it's internal to the program.
[18:00] <banyantree> truexfan81: my graphic card: intel 4500mhd
[18:00] <tydynrain> you can most likely boot from a USB stick if the CD/DVD drive is not functional.
[18:00] <_Marcus> deadmund: I get an error when trying to use my second montior as anything that isn't just duplicating my first one. This happens in both AMD Catalyst Center and the Ubuntu settings too
[18:00] <bekks> _Marcus: Why do you think they are broken? And why dont you want to fix them, but uninstall them then?
[18:00] <CPCookieMan> So I choose the option to boot to ubuntu, and it stays on the typical purple screen for a minute...
[18:00] <deadmund> _Marcus: what driver are you using?  What is the error?
[18:01] <ClientAlive> right!  :)  ooh... this is exciting. Thank you jrib. Think I'm ready to try it.   :>
[18:01] <_Marcus> deadmund: When I checked how to uninstall the drivers online, every source said to use a command that I don't have. Some fglrx thing, and I have some folder called amdcccle.
[18:01] <bekks> _Marcus: Which error...?
[18:01] <_Marcus> deadmund: I have no idea what driver I am using. Let me get the error again, hold on.
[18:01] <truexfan81> banyantree: there are no drivers to install for intel graphics, the opensource drivers are installed with the os
[18:01] <deadmund> _Marcus: ok
[18:01] <deadmund> _Marcus: You can check the driver by running and reading the output of sudo lspci -k
[18:01] <jrib> ClientAlive: yeah unison is pretty nice; I wish I didn't have to do a funny screen dance to use without a gui though -_-
[18:01] <banyantree> okay =) thank you
[18:01] <deadmund> _Marcus: fglrx is the name of the proprietary closed source driver
[18:02] <_Marcus> deadmund: It says this: "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3200, 900), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1600, 1600)"
[18:02] <bekks> Well, that error is obvious on AMD.
[18:03] <bekks> You cant do what you are using, since the maximum virtual size is limited.
[18:03] <_Marcus> deadmund: I did that command, but how do I know if the driver is graphics? I have an AMD CPU as well as an AMD graphics card.
[18:03] <_Marcus> bekks: How do I fix that?
[18:03] <bekks> _Marcus: By bying another graphics card, like Nvidia, which has a max. virtual size of 8192².
[18:03] <deadmund> _Marcus: "how do you know if the driver is graphics?"  What does that mean?
[18:03] <Troy^> what themes can you use in unity?
[18:03] <deadmund> bekks: Are you sure?  Maybe he can try adding a modeline using xrandr and cvt
[18:03] <bekks> *buying even.