[07:41] <NeRoboto> superfly: Live in Pinelands; work in town.
[15:35] <NeRoboto> superfly: How about you?
[15:53] <NeRoboto> Does anyone else feel that South Africans are on average really ignorant of the existence of Linux based OSs?
[15:55] <paddatrapper> NeRoboto: yes and no. There are both extremes: those who know and those who don't have a clue, but very few who have just heard of it
[15:56] <MaNI> "Does anyone else feel that South Africans are on average really ignorant" - agree ;)
[15:56] <Kilos> hahaha
[15:56] <Kilos> hi superfly and others
[15:57] <MaNI> more seriously, I don't think it's just Linux specifically we have a huge technology gap in general, for which Telkom and their decades long stranglehold over the internet are responsible
[15:57] <NeRoboto> I guess. It's a pretty frustrating situation.
[15:57] <Kilos> hi paddatrapper
[15:58] <inetpro> you forgot, there are the others as well
[15:58] <inetpro> the others who think they know it all
[15:58] <MaNI> We were late to get computers, we were late to get internet, we still lag, and it shows in things like the lack of za people on IRC the lack of za people involved in OSS etc. Those who are involved are in general very clued up and good but there are definitely less of us.
[15:58] <inetpro> oops...
[15:58]  * inetpro hides away
[15:58] <paddatrapper> hi oom Kilos :)
[15:58] <Kilos> :-)
[15:59] <paddatrapper> yet we were one of the first countries to regulate drone usage...
[15:59] <NeRoboto> paddatrapper: Eh. That's an outlying situation.
[16:00] <paddatrapper> NeRoboto: yeah I agree
[16:00] <Kilos> you guys talk heavy stuff. i go back to sleep
[16:00] <NeRoboto> Haha
[16:01] <Kilos> hows the family superfly
[16:01] <Kilos> and
[16:01] <NeRoboto> Join the revolution, Kilos!
[16:01] <Kilos> and
[16:01] <Kilos> and
[16:01] <Kilos> long time no hear about your side inetpro
[16:01] <Kilos> what revolution?
[16:01] <NeRoboto> The Linux revolution.
[16:01] <NeRoboto> In SA
[16:02] <NeRoboto> Now
[16:02] <NeRoboto> Grab your PCs and your swords
[16:02] <Kilos> i started with 8.10 and havent used anything else on my pcs
[16:02] <Kilos> currently use kde like most of the clever guys
[16:02] <Kilos> just so i can seem to be clever as well
[16:03] <NeRoboto> I use Gnome because I like pretty pixels.
[16:03] <Kilos> haha
[16:03] <Kilos> i left gnome when unity arrived
[16:04] <paddatrapper> I thought I could load Linux on my PC at home, but turns out the HDD controller is not compatible... Known issue with that motherboard, luckily I hardly every use anything but my laptop
[16:05] <Kilos> eish paddatrapper that sucks
[16:05]  * NeRoboto strokes his chin
[16:05] <NeRoboto> That does such
[16:05] <NeRoboto> *suck
[16:06] <Kilos> maybe an upgrade of the firmware can help
[16:06] <paddatrapper> Maybe, but I think at this point upgrading the MoBo would be easier. It is about 6/7 years old by now
[16:06] <Kilos> ah
[16:07] <Kilos> not cheap
[16:07] <paddatrapper> true. never is
[16:07] <Kilos> mobos not too bad its the ram and cpu that are hevy
[16:08] <Kilos> lemme sleep some more so pro can come out of hiding
[16:08] <paddatrapper> RAM I can salvage - DDR3, CPU probably could do with an upgrade
[16:08] <paddatrapper> lekker slaap
[16:08] <Kilos> dankie
[16:09] <NeRoboto> Cheers
[16:09] <Kilos> ill pop in for coffee
[16:09] <Kilos> oh better take one with me
[16:09] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[16:09]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[16:10] <Kilos> NeRoboto if you want some  say maaz coffee please
[16:10] <Kilos> cyber coffee is very healthy
[16:10] <NeRoboto> So some bots are allowed?
[16:11] <Kilos> he does our meeting minutes etc
[16:11] <NeRoboto> Ah. Can he speak Afrikaans?
[16:11] <Kilos> haha sometimes
[16:11] <Kilos> Maaz koffie asseblief
[16:11] <Maaz> Eish Kilos  Die engelse het tot ons boeretroos oorgeneem. Vra asseblief in engels.
[16:12] <NeRoboto> Haha.
[16:12] <NeRoboto> Lekker man.
[16:13] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[16:13] <Kilos> Maaz danke
[16:13] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[16:14] <NeRoboto> Maaz are you open source?
[16:14] <Maaz> NeRoboto: What?
[16:15] <NeRoboto> Please don't be offended.
[16:15] <Kilos> he is ibid in resources
[16:15] <Kilos> in the apps thingie
[16:15] <Kilos> ai!
[16:15] <Kilos> repos
[16:23] <paddatrapper> NeRoboto: https://github.com/ibid/ibid
[16:23] <NeRoboto> Thanks.
[16:23] <Kilos> how is it coming along paddatrapper
[16:24] <paddatrapper> Kilos: I haven't touched it in a while. GSoC and varsity is taking up all of my time
[16:24] <Kilos> ah
[16:24] <Kilos> whats the gsoc thing
[16:25] <paddatrapper> Google Summer of Code, working on an open source HDMI to USB capture device
[16:25] <Kilos> cool
[18:47] <inetpro> paddatrapper: sounds very interesting
[18:47] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm here now
[18:49] <Kilos> hello pro
[18:49] <Kilos> hows your family?
[18:49] <inetpro> all in good health thanks
[18:49] <Kilos> good
[18:50] <inetpro> when are you going back to Aussieland again?
[18:50] <Kilos> no money for that
[18:50] <inetpro> ai!
[18:50] <Kilos> cant go back till medical bills paid
[18:50] <Kilos> govt wont let me in
[18:51] <Kilos> ja groot ai!
[18:52] <inetpro> at least they won't come here to hunt you down to extract the milk from your coffee
[18:52] <Kilos> hahaha im waiting to see, they handed it over to debt collectors
[18:53] <inetpro> damn!
[19:15] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:36] <superfly> NeRoboto: I'm in the US. I used to live in Muizenberg, work in town.
[21:45] <vivus> superfly: what is the .org equivalent of youtube?
[21:50] <superfly> vivus: I'm not sure what you're asking me
[21:51] <vivus> there is an alternative to youtube for video hosting.
[21:53] <superfly> vivus: not that I know of, I'm afraid.
[21:53] <superfly> vivus: video hosting is not as simple as one would think.
[21:53] <vivus> it's a hosted solution IIRC.
[21:54] <vivus> not a self-hosting one
[21:54] <superfly> vivus: I mean, there's vimeo, and dailymotion that I know of
[21:54] <vivus> both of those are commercial, like YT
[21:54] <superfly> yes
[21:54] <vivus> maybe it was someone else who told me about it
[21:54] <superfly> maybe Amazon has something?
[21:55] <superfly> vivus: yeah, I'm not really big in that area
[21:56] <vivus> I distinctly recall this site running on a .org domain though
[21:58] <superfly> Maybe looking down the list of names here will ring a bell? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_hosting_services
[22:01] <vivus> where are debian conference videos hosted?
[22:02] <superfly> vivus: we host them ourselves
[22:02] <superfly> https://debconf16.debconf.org/talks/6/
[22:02] <vivus> under what domain?
[22:02] <vivus> oh no, that's not it
[22:02] <superfly> there's the service that PyCon uses
[22:03] <superfly> uh... NextDayVideo ?
[22:03] <vivus> that is the dude from chicago who does the pycon recordings right?
[22:05] <vivus> yeah I can't seem to recall that site either. aah well, maybe someday I'll remember


[01:33] <desertc> 31 users here and no one can say what the home page is...
[01:33] <desertc> Hope to talk to you all soon.
[06:04] <posingaspopular> hey all. I'm trying to put together an event with nixternal to promote the use/installation of Gutsy Gibbon to the general population (instead of the all geeky install fest we threw this weekend) and get some more people in Chicago excited about FOSS/Gutsy in general. any thoughts?
[06:09] <boredandblogging> posingaspopular: we are trying to think about the same thing in georgia and not having much luck
[06:09] <posingaspopular> boredandblogging: yay, we can work together
[06:09] <posingaspopular> i was thinking of a install fest at a local uni along with passing out free software cds at various other schools
[06:10] <boredandblogging> yeah, but that seems to attract the same geeky types
[06:10] <posingaspopular> i sent out an email asking for people I knew (chicago gnu/linux users group, chipy, linux users of northern illinois (luni), etc), if they had any suggestions, and/or contacts in the local media schools etc.
[06:11] <posingaspopular> the problem is promoting it outside of the same geek circles (as fun as that is) and spreading it to general computer users
[06:11] <posingaspopular> which takes resources that the loco's dont really have
[06:12] <boredandblogging> right, there used to be general purpose UGs before, but most of them have been replaced by specialized UGs
[06:13] <boredandblogging> looking through sites like meetup.com, there are groups that are interested in building web sites, that might be a start
[06:13] <posingaspopular> yea, but im going to argue (and hope that im not proven wrong) that just because a UG is specialized, it doesnt mean that other UG's wont help
[06:13] <posingaspopular> a bigger pie for everyone is better than no pie at all ;p
[06:15] <boredandblogging> true, best shot might be doing presentations at different UGs
[06:15] <boredandblogging> but its a time consuming process
[06:15] <boredandblogging> and requires man power
[06:18] <posingaspopular> we've been doing that for years here, or at least trying
[06:19] <posingaspopular> im fairly confident that we can get enough volunteers to help us talk to people about free software
[06:19] <posingaspopular> the problem is getting non techies to an event
[06:19] <boredandblogging>  yeah
[06:20] <boredandblogging> think that is everyone's problem
[06:21] <posingaspopular> hmm... anyone else around that has a few words they can throw in
[06:55] <posingaspopular> boredandblogging: how is the georgia team treating you?
[07:32] <boredandblogging> posingaspopular: not too bad
[07:32] <boredandblogging> we have a release party tomorrow night
[07:32] <boredandblogging> and an install fest coming up
[07:33] <posingaspopular> nice! we just had one (if you've been reading nixternal's blag) and im busting my butt to give Ubu-chi some more momenutm
[07:33] <posingaspopular> i thought i would pop into the -marketing chan to see what I could do about it
[07:43] <boredandblogging> posingaspopular: very cool
[07:44] <posingaspopular> apparently more people in the area use ubuntuforums than I thought. they were all complaining that their is no activity in the area, wanting to go to install fests, etc. and there were 20+ people in the chan trying to do their thing. exciting!
[08:13] <posingaspopular> <-bed
[18:10] <juliux> hi all
[18:10] <juliux> ubuntu will be again in the german television tomorrow
[18:12] <Burgundavia> very cool
[18:12] <Burgundavia> get us a clip
[18:12] <juliux> we will record it with mythtv
[18:12] <juliux> and i will upload it
[18:14] <Burgundavia> very cool
[20:36] <desertc> Do we have any "Ubuntu in the newspaper" references?
[20:42] <posingaspopular> desertc: i think there were a few for the chicago loco install fest, yu have to check with richard johnson abhout that
[20:43] <desertc> posingaspopular: thanks


[12:31] <qwebirc53642> I thought I was geting close with my HVR-2250 with Lowsky's fix and then found the last step of wrting to /modprode.d/options.conf will not work as options.conf does not exist. What now?
[16:42] <Kr0nZ> Hi, is their anyone that can help me get my HVR 2250 card working, dmesg shows my card being detected and firmware installed, but when i try to do mplayer /dev/video0 i just get a blank screen
[20:52] <Kr0nZ> I decided to go back to 10.10 now my tuner works but no audio over hdmi