[00:59] <Nick7569> Hello is there a way to make TextArea have html tags ?
[01:01] <Nick7569> I will try Text.NativeRendering
[01:03] <Nick4265> does not work
[01:03] <Nick4265> does not work
[01:05] <Nick3976> Yeah niether Text.NativeRendering nor QtRendering wil work
[01:08] <dudelove> see http://imgur.com/T2ivM58
[01:29] <jakssoule> What's Ubuntu Touch's current application support consist of as far as legacy Ubuntu apps go? (X11 applications and whatnot.)
[08:18] <dholbach> good morning
[11:09] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:11] <sil2100> Morning
[11:23] <tsdgeos> file:///usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/Tabs.qml:394: ReferenceError: undefined is not defined
[11:24] <tsdgeos> zsombi: timp: ↑↑↑
[11:25] <zsombi> tsdgeos: :) interesting... but you can forget about that :)
[11:25] <tsdgeos> sure
[11:25] <tsdgeos> it's just a very weird warning :D
[11:25] <zsombi> tsdgeos: Tabs will be reworked, toolbar will vanish...
[11:25] <tsdgeos> any clue what causes it?
[11:25] <zsombi> tsdgeos: no idea....
[11:26] <zsombi> tsdgeos: have you got some new design about the tabs?
[11:26] <tsdgeos> zsombi: nope, why?
[11:26] <zsombi> tsdgeos: because Tabs won't anymore look like they do now...
[11:27] <zsombi> tsdgeos: and the TabBar will loose its current behavior...
[11:27] <tsdgeos> zsombi: well i guess design wants that? so they want that for the dash too
[11:27] <tsdgeos> hope they don't expect us to deviate from the sdk again
[11:28] <zsombi> tsdgeos: the homescreen will no longer scroll from the tabs, only thru swiping horizontally
[11:28] <zsombi> tsdgeos: and no more toolbar, that vanishes
[11:28] <tsdgeos> and they probably want that for yesterday
[11:28] <zsombi> tsdgeos: actually you will need to use the header stuff from UITK
[11:29] <zsombi> tsdgeos: obviously :D
[11:31] <seb128> mardy, hey, can we get a gnome-control-center-signon package update for unity-control-center in trusty?
[11:40] <mardy> seb128: yep, the code is in trunk; dbarth: can you enter a Landing Ask for it? ^
[11:40] <seb128> mardy, thanks
[12:00] <dbarth> seb128, mardy: will do
[12:00] <dbarth> seb128: is thre a bug reference for the change you need?
[12:01] <seb128> dbarth, thanks
[12:02] <seb128> dbarth, bug #1257505
[12:02] <seb128> dbarth, it's the last package that needs to be transitioned for that one to be complete
[12:02] <SquirrelCZECH_> hi folks
[12:02] <SquirrelCZECH_> :)
[12:03] <SquirrelCZECH_> ow is Ubuntu Touch on Nexus 7? (that one with 1280x800 res, Tegra 3 etc...)
[12:03]  * SquirrelCZECH_ got a chance to buy one for cheap price...
[12:15] <davmor2> Hey guys is quit in the hud meant to actually quit the app?
[12:19] <popey> davmor2: bug 1269409
[12:19] <davmor2> popey: thanks
[12:41] <cwayne> cjwatson, hi, for the preinstalled click packages in the customized build, we've just been pushing the clicks to the device, installing to /custom/click and then tarring up and pulling /custom/click, was wondering if there's an easier, more-supported way to do that?
[12:56] <Dilawar> Hello
[12:56] <Dilawar> every one
[12:56] <Dilawar> I need help regarding installing ubuntu touch on sony arc s
[12:57] <Dilawar> ?
[12:58] <greyback> Dilawar: hey, just asking for help won't get you many replies. Instead please ask the specific question you have in mind, and if someone knows the answer, they can reply
[12:58] <popey> !devices | Dilawar
[12:58] <popey> is the device listed there?
[12:58] <Dilawar> nop
[12:59] <Dilawar> its sony ericsson arc s
[12:59] <popey> then you need to find someone to port ubuntu to it
[13:00] <Dilawar> how do I port ubuntu to it. Appologies for sounding stupid?
[13:25] <cjwatson> 14:32 <mhall119> actually, this doesn't even need work in click packages, I just need the device images to say "You can install click packages for frameworks ubuntu-sdk-13.10 *or* ubuntu-sdk-14.04-dev"
[13:25] <cjwatson> mhall119: all you need to do for that is to have the images ship both framework files
[13:26] <cjwatson> cwayne: that's OK, but maybe we could extend livecd-rootfs/live-build/ubuntu-touch/hooks/60-install-click.chroot or something
[13:33] <darkdragon-001> has anyone installed Ubuntu Phone on Nexus 5? If yes, which image did you take?
[13:34] <cwayne> cjwatson, hm yeah, i'll have to take a look.  i tried installing it into the source of the custom tarball, but then the symlinks all point to like "~/Projects/custom-tarball/system/custom/click" which is obviously not correct :)
[13:37] <popey> darkdragon-001: don't think there's a nexus 5 image available yet?
[13:38] <ogra_> darkdragon-001, see the mailing list, there are experimental images
[13:41] <ogra_> darkdragon-001, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6909181/ should work for you if you replace "mako" in line 3 with "hammerhead"
[13:42] <darkdragon-001> thanks :)
[13:42] <ogra_> oh, wait, the tarball wont work ...
[13:43] <ogra_> (it does not have the latest Mir ... hmm)
[13:43] <darkdragon-001> Is it so much different from the previous version (Nexus 4 or Nexus 7)?
[13:44] <ogra_> darkdragon-001, grab the three files and instead of all the rootstock stuff, after fastboot flashing the boot and recovery images, just sideload http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-touch-4.4.2-mir.rootfs-armhf.zip
[13:45] <ogra_> that wont get you an ubuntu-system image but should at least get you ubuntu touch to get an impression
[14:15] <mhall119> cjwatson: thanks
[14:42] <cwayne> is it possible to override a job in /etc/init/ by placing the .override in ~/.config/upstart?
[14:43] <Valduare> question - on something like an asus transformer - when you "dock it" with the keyboard/mouse   will it go to full ubuntu?
[14:47] <jodh> cwayne: no, ecause /etc/init is used by PID 1 whereas ~/.config/upstart is used by the Session Init. So you can only override a session job by putting the .override in ~/.config/upstart/ - system-level job overrides only live in /etc/init/
[14:48] <cwayne> jodh, thanks, that's what I figured
[14:49] <jodh> cwayne: see init(5) for full details.
[14:50] <cwayne> jodh, thanks
[14:53] <mardy> jdstrand: hi! It seems that, for an app installed with click, QCoreApplication::applicationName() returns the package component only (not the app name and version); is this expected and correct?
[15:08] <xnox> when i try phablet-test-run i get a lot of unknown instance on every click app launch, is that known?
[15:10] <ogra_> xnox, did you run the prepare commands ?
[15:11] <xnox> ogra_: yeah.
[15:11] <ogra_> weird
[15:12] <xnox> i'll reflash to fresh image and try again.
[15:15] <Valduare> on something like an asus transformer - when you "dock it" with the keyboard/mouse  will it go to full ubuntu?
[15:17] <sergiusens> xnox, unkown instance is because autopilot polls for the upstart job
[15:17] <sergiusens> until it's found
[15:18] <ogra_> oh, right
[15:18] <ogra_> Valduare, in 15.10 perhaps :)
[15:18] <xnox> sergiusens: but it's up and available....
[15:18] <xnox> sergiusens: i see it with initctl list...
[15:18] <Valduare> ogra_: well thats not very fun :P
[15:18] <xnox> sergiusens: i thought there was a merge proposal from slangasek to fix this however (such that polling is not needed)
[15:18] <sergiusens> xnox, then autopilot lost track
[15:19] <sergiusens> if you have an mr I can also look
[15:20] <xnox> sergiusens: i'm trying to test https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/phablet-tools/py2-3/+merge/205608
[15:20] <ogra_> Valduare, what you request will require Mir to actually support this ... currently it does not even support a mouse pointer
[15:21] <xnox> sergiusens: and i can't figure out if my changes broke everything, or i'm just failing to drive ./phablet-test-run correctly.
[15:21] <ogra_> Valduare, we also do not have any convergence work started yet, this will start in 14.10 (as announced in several places)
[15:21] <xnox> sergiusens: when testing use ./phablet-click-test-setup and ./phablet-test-run from that branch.
[15:21] <Valduare> ok
[15:22] <Valduare> I think that form factor is going to be the bee's knees
[15:22] <Valduare> tablet that's dock able
[15:22] <Shiggitay|Funtoo> rsalveti, r u here
[15:22] <Valduare> even possibly phone that can dock into a tablet and then to a keyboard/mouse dock   OR a desktop dock
[15:23] <ogra_> Valduare, for sure, it is just that we are still far from supporting that ... first we need a stable phone system ... then we will slowly extend that to other form factors and in the end take over the desktop with it
[15:23] <ogra_> that process might strech across a few releases
[15:24] <Valduare> while I'm dreaming- i'd also like a nice solid aluminum and glass phone for ubuntu to run on :P
[15:25]  * ogra_ would have liked an ubuntu edge phone ... but well, cant hve everything
[15:25] <xnox> sergiusens: actually, i think my merge proposal is buggy, it's working now.
[15:25] <xnox> and reflash / resetup probably helped.
[16:01] <dednick> anyone here know if we can somehow increase the size of the root partition on device?
[16:55] <cwayne> stgraber, ping -- can we get a -demo channel setup?
[16:56] <davmor2> hmmm who is responsible for the About Phone Page in settings?  A table isn't a phone honest is there a way we can make it smarter?
[16:57] <sergiusens> just call it About device
[16:58] <stgraber> cwayne: if you have the details, yes (what it's based on what extra tarballs, downloaded from where, ...)
[16:59] <pmcgowan> sergiusens, davmor2 or just plain About
[17:00] <sergiusens> works for me
[17:32] <Laney> We are design-led, so you need to get that updated instead of just designing.
[17:32] <Laney> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AboutThisDevice#Phone
[17:32] <Laney> file a bug and assign mpt.
[17:32] <Laney> s/designing/deciding/
[17:33] <cwayne> ooh, that looks nice with suru-dark
[17:35] <pmcgowan> cwayne, is it easy to change themes? we dont have ui for that yet do we?
[17:36] <cwayne> pmcgowan, no, i was just saying on that wiki page Laney pasted its in suru-dark, and it looks nicer than whats actually on the phone
[17:36] <cwayne> pmcgowan, there's no ui, but editing /home/phablet/.config/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/theme.ini would work
[17:37] <pmcgowan> cwayne, ack
[17:38] <mpt> davmor2, bug 1258211
[17:39] <davmor2> mpt: fantastic thanks :)
[17:42] <mhall119> who's the primary developer for the messaging-app?
[17:44] <davmor2> mhall119: you volunteering? ;)
[17:44] <mhall119> nope
[17:47] <sergiusens> mhall119, boiko or renato or salem_
[17:47] <renato> mhall119, sergiusens, the main developer is salem_
[17:48] <salem_> mhall119, hey
[18:03] <mhall119> salem_: hey, is it by design that the header doesn't hide when you scroll messages? or can I propose an MP to fix it?
[18:05] <salem_> mhall119, I think that was a design decision, so the recipient is always visible.
[18:12] <mhall119> it takes up too much space
[18:12] <mhall119> salem_: who was the designer?
[18:28] <msvb-lab> Anyone know if <newproj>.qmlproject.user files from Ubuntu-SDK new projects should be checked into revision control?
[18:28] <msvb-lab> ...or maybe must be checked in for some reason?
[18:29] <msvb-lab> ...or should not be checked in?
[18:29] <mhall119> msvb-lab: .user files should not be in version control
[18:29] <msvb-lab> mhall119: Why not, does Ubuntu-SDK store passwords and private UUIDs in them without the developer knowing?
[18:30] <msvb-lab> Trying to figure out why no 'ignore' file is generated with the .qmlproject.user file by default.
[18:31] <msvb-lab> When I look in a freshly generated .qmlproject.user file there's nothing harmful, and the tab and style definitions could be useful to others.
[18:32] <msvb-lab> ...but my gut feeling is that mhall119 is right, that they shouldn't be checked in.
[18:35] <mhall119> msvb-lab: it's generally user preferences for the project (and maybe local-specific settings and paths)
[18:35] <mhall119> not the kind of thing that everybody in the project wants to have the same values for
[18:35] <msvb-lab> Okay, you're right. And I don't want to advertise the paths of my filesystem to the public either.
[18:36] <msvb-lab> ...so wouldn't it be a good idea to generate a 'ignore' file with a .qmlproject.user entry on new project creation?
[19:03] <kenvandine> tedg, ping
[19:04] <kenvandine> tedg, i'm not nagging about those ual branches :)
[19:04] <tedg> kenvandine, Howdy, back in the cold North?
[19:04] <kenvandine> tedg, i have a backtrace that hints at ual though :)
[19:04] <kenvandine> tedg, we did have a little snow today :)
[19:04] <kenvandine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910724/
[19:05] <kenvandine> that is with ual built with all of those proposed branches
[19:05] <tedg> kenvandine, Which set, the ones in silo now?
[19:05] <kenvandine> tedg, including workaround-lp1277737
[19:05] <kenvandine> all the ones in +activereviews
[19:05] <kenvandine> i can't reproduce that crash on the desktop at all
[19:06] <kenvandine> but i can hit it pretty reliably on the phone
[19:06] <tedg> Ah, oh, that's a lot of them.
[19:06] <kenvandine> indeed :)
[19:06] <tedg> kenvandine, Can you translate that line number for me?
[19:06] <kenvandine> if i do things that trigger calling start_application in relatively short intervals from the hub
[19:07] <kenvandine> sure
[19:08] <kenvandine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910745/
[19:08] <kenvandine> line 36 there is 468
[19:08] <tedg> Hmm, okay.
[19:08] <kenvandine> i can't reproduce it at all on the desktop though
[19:09] <kenvandine> i've beat the crap out of it and no crash
[19:09] <tedg> It's clearly not NULL as it's 0x54...
[19:09] <kenvandine> but switching between apps with the hub 3 or 4 times on the phone and it crashes
[19:09] <kenvandine> indeed
[19:10] <kenvandine> tedg, racey?
[19:10] <tedg> kenvandine, Possible to run under valgrind?  Perhaps a memory section being overwritten?
[19:10] <kenvandine> ugh... not sure i want to try that on my n4
[19:11] <tedg> That data structure is allocated each time, so it really shouldn't matter what independent runs do.
[19:15]  * rickspencer3 upgrades to 173
[19:19] <kenvandine> tedg, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910825/
[19:19] <kenvandine> tedg, slight variation...
[19:19] <kenvandine> line 471 is         g_free(data->dbus_path);
[19:19] <tedg> kenvandine, Guessing it must be double freeing that structure
[19:19] <kenvandine> and line 65 is                 if (timespent > 500 /* ms */ * 1000 /* ms to us */) {
[19:19] <kenvandine>                         second_exec_complete(data);
[19:19] <kenvandine> that's 64 and 65
[19:20] <tedg> Probably just need to convert it to an object to better handle the referencing.
[19:20] <kenvandine> so maybe these crashes are directly related to that last branch?
[19:20] <tedg> The workaround one?
[19:20] <kenvandine> yeah
[19:20] <stgraber> cwayne: sorry for the delay, we had a couple of stuff publishing at the same time, taking over an hour to import, then I found a whole lot of the customization channels were broken due to the dropped /build/ (not all of them dropped it so things weren't terribly consistent in the config)
[19:20] <tedg> No, that's not in the lib
[19:20] <kenvandine> ah... ok
[19:21] <stgraber> cwayne: I "think" I fixed everything now and I'm running the importer again in debug mode to check that everything is clean
[19:22] <tedg> kenvandine, Could you check to see if you can get it to happen with silo 5?  https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/landing-005/
[19:22] <tedg> kenvandine, Give a good place to start bisecting.
[19:23] <cwayne> stgraber, oh crap, im sorry about the /build/ thing, I can make them all go there if it's easier/more maintainable for you
[19:24] <stgraber> cwayne: they seem to all be using that but savilerow-trusty at the moment, so yeah, if you change that last one just let me know and I'll update the config to reflect that
[19:24] <kenvandine> tedg, sure
[19:25] <kenvandine> tedg, too bad we don't have dbg packages in the silo's
[19:25] <cwayne> stgraber, ah, im afraid savilerow-trusty is actually the 'right' one, so if we were to update them it'd be putting the other ones into /build/
[19:25] <tedg> kenvandine, Isn't that something that can be turned on in an individual PPA basis?
[19:26] <stgraber> cwayne: oh right, well, whatever, I think my config is currently right so let's keep things as they are for now ;)
[19:26] <kenvandine> tedg, i think so
[19:26] <cwayne> stgraber, works for me :)
[19:30] <kenvandine> tedg, with the silo http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910885/
[19:30] <kenvandine> no line number... but looks similar
[19:31] <kenvandine> g_variant_release_children
[19:31] <tedg> Yeah, interestingly a more sane value for the unref() call.
[19:33] <tedg> Trying to figure how I could recreate...
[19:33] <stgraber> cwayne: alright, all your channels should be up to date now
[19:34] <kenvandine> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6910905/
[19:34] <stgraber> cwayne: that may be quite a bump for some of them as some were failing since the 30th of January
[19:34] <kenvandine> tedg, is that useful?
[19:34] <cwayne> stgraber, is it not automatically aliased to devel-*?
[19:34] <cwayne> stgraber, oof, ok, thanks!
[19:34] <kenvandine> output completed resume twice for a single start_application call
[19:36] <stgraber> cwayne: on failure, the importer just skips the channel/device, so since those have been failing for a while, you also didn't have images
[19:36] <cwayne> that would be just the -generic and saucy ones i think, so those haven't changed in awhile anyway
[19:37] <tedg> kenvandine, Yeah, just a sec.
[19:37] <kenvandine> tedg, interestingly it looks like it prints that resume command in multiples, growing depending on the number of times i've raised the app
[19:37] <kenvandine> and earlier log printed that 4 times in a row
[19:37] <tedg> kenvandine, Yeah, I think we're not unsubscribing
[19:38] <kenvandine> yay... glad to see there's a lead :)
[19:41] <tedg> kenvandine, Writing a test to prove it, but I'm pretty sure this is the fix: lp:~ted/upstart-app-launch/signal-disconnect
[19:48] <kenvandine> tedg, thx, building it now
[19:52] <tedg> kenvandine, Okay, test for that fix.  If that's not your problem you have a different one :-)
[19:52] <kenvandine> i'll know in about 5m :)
[19:53]  * kenvandine waits for debs...
[19:54] <kenvandine> my phone is getting a bit warm :)
[19:55] <tedg> kenvandine, Feature for cold winter days.
[19:56] <tedg> We'll allow you to add your phone to the build pool.
[19:57] <kenvandine> tedg, yay!
[19:57] <kenvandine> it did fix it!
[19:57] <kenvandine> thanks!
[19:57] <kenvandine> on that note... time for lunch :)
[19:58] <ybon> when an image got promotted, does this means that it's the new "devel-proposed" or the new "devel" ?
[19:58] <tedg> Great, thanks for the info kenvandine!
[19:59] <Yamagata> hello thar
[19:59] <Yamagata> whoops, wrong channel
[20:14] <thomi> tedg: hey - any news on the libUAL landings?
[20:15] <stgraber> ogra_: heads up, I have now upgraded system-image on the server to current trunk (which includes the bits for OEM/ports). In theory none of those bits are even used on the main server, nevertheless, if you do spot any behaviour change in the next couple of days, please let me know immediately.
[20:15] <stgraber> I also tweaked the locking mechanism a bit, should be more robust that way
[20:27] <tedg> thomi, The second set is now "tested"
[20:31] <thomi> tedg: does the second set include what I need?
[20:31] <tedg> thomi, It includes the failure signal but not the GIR bindings.  They're next.
[20:31] <thomi> ok
[20:31] <ajalkane> anyone know if new emulator image available?
[20:31] <thomi> we can't land them all together at once?
[20:32] <tedg> thomi, Well the argument is to decrease risk by landing set by set.
[20:32] <thomi> tedg: yeah, ok
[20:43] <darkdragon-001> My wifi on my Nexus 4 is not working. Should this work or is it just not implemented?
[20:44] <kenvandine> tedg, thanks for the fix... now my content-hub branch is behaving beautifully!
[20:44] <kenvandine> darkdragon-001, should be working fine
[20:44] <kenvandine> works on my n4
[20:45] <darkdragon-001> I installed the latest devel release.
[20:46] <darkdragon-001> Am I right that there should be a wifi indicator when wifi works correctly? and where do I search for networks? In the settings? There is only a button for me...
[20:46] <kenvandine> you should see access points in the wifi indicator
[20:46] <kenvandine> and should show status properly
[20:46] <kenvandine> works well for me, with the trusty-proposed channel
[20:49] <darkdragon-001> when I boot it up, there is the wifi indicator for a short time and then it disappears when I swipe down from top. In the settings app, there is only a button "auto-join previous networks" in the wifi menu
[21:05] <darkdragon-001> kenvadine: doesnt work with trusty-proposed eigher for me...
[21:07] <pmcgowan> darkdragon-001, did you just install for the first time or has this been working before?
[21:08] <darkdragon-001> well I installed it about a year ago. Back then it was working. April to today, I used Android again. And today I did the full process (unlock bootloader, install, ...)
[21:08] <bfiller> tedg: can you update your MR from trunk and re-submit, getting a conflict: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/address-book-app/url-dispatcher
[21:08] <bfiller> trying to get that released
[21:08] <tedg> Sure
[21:08] <bfiller> something else got added to the .install file
[21:08] <pmcgowan> darkdragon-001, it may be the 4.4 radio firmware issue, check instructions here:
[21:08] <pmcgowan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/DualBootInstallation#Getting_phone_calls_to_work_in_Ubuntu_and_Android_4.4
[21:09] <darkdragon-001> well it seems that mobile networking is working...
[21:10] <darkdragon-001> But I could try the radio downgrade. Thanks for the link...
[21:11] <pmcgowan> darkdragon-001, can you check which version you are running  adb shell cat /etc/system-image/channel.ini
[21:11] <tedg> bfiller, Updated
[21:11] <bfiller> tedg: thanks!
[21:11] <cyb3rkn19ht> With the 4.4 radio and trusty I have working mobile networking and texting. I don't need WiFi.
[21:12] <darkdragon-001> pmcgowan: trusty-proposed, like I said
[21:12] <pmcgowan> darkdragon-001, ah ok, should work then
[21:12] <darkdragon-001> cyb3rkn19ht: same for me. but instead I prefer to use wifi when at home...


[03:21] <nIRV_> greetings; is there a way to know what configuration flags have been used to compile the Qt5 library in ubuntu's repository?
[09:42] <existenze> hey there
[09:44] <existenze> how do I actually know if the graphics drivers were properly installed? Both nvidia and intel?
[09:44] <existenze> And how do I choose which one to use?
[10:03] <existenze> guess it's still sleep time everywhere else
[10:11] <me_> Hi.
[10:11] <me_> Can't find find  'tun.ko.gz'
[10:11] <me_> Any idead how to get it?
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:35] <momoe> **A wild momoe appears!!**
[13:35] <momoe> Goood morning all!
[13:37] <momoe> So KDE Connect has FINALLY released the full 1.0 version.
[13:37] <momoe> https://albertvaka.wordpress.com/2016/08/26/kde-connect-1-0-is-here/
[14:54] <KalianVirii> .
[15:01] <Smurphy> Lol. Love kde connect. Love it when my phone rings, the Music is muted :D or the text messages displayed :)
[15:34] <leumas> Is the Yakkety Yak Beta out for download?
[18:14] <existenze> hey there
[18:19] <acheronuk> hello
[18:21] <existenze> hey... some activity here...
[19:37] <beef_> hi togehter
[19:37] <beef_> just a little question
[19:38] <beef_> im usin kde 5.5 -> how can i change the icon of a link on the desktop?
[19:39] <beef_> rightclick -> press icon dont work
[20:11] <lindar_> hello, just installed 16.04 LTS and its at the black screen with a white Kubuntu turning blue for ten minutes... whats going on
[20:13] <lindar_> i am using 15.04 at the moment and I wanted to upgrade to 16 and this happened
[20:23] <existenze> hey
[20:23] <existenze> Can you resize widgets?
[20:24] <lindar_> yes, hover over them and usr the drag option
[20:24] <lindar_> hello, just installed 16.04 LTS and its at the black screen with a white Kubuntu turning blue for ten minutes... whats going on
[20:25] <arcanjo> hi lindar.. did you install any video drivers?
[20:25] <existenze> nothing shows on mouse over
[20:26] <lindar_> whats flavor are you using
[20:26] <lindar_> Im just using the basic install
[20:27] <lindar_> cant get to a GUI of any kind and the CLi isnt working either
[20:29] <existenze> oh... just figure it... it's a double long click for resize options
 heyyyy
 i have a question about a problem that im having with mu kubuntu 16.04
 when I send or download something that the sale of where I want to save the file opens everything is normal when I give to keep the action is reaiza successfully but that window is not closed remains on my desktop is not going and clutters can not close
 stay like these
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/WMx5IuFM/file_211.jpg dont go
 still there
[20:52] <existenze> If I want to install a plasmoid that gives me the location of "kde:kdeplasma-addons/applets/fileWatcher/", how do I actually install it?
[23:21] <aleeek> hi !


[00:47] <trimeta> soren: Thanks.
[05:55] <Sydero> Anyone know the minimum version of gcc required to compile kernel 2.6.28?
[06:00] <dtchen> Documentation/Changes lists 3.2
[06:00] <Sydero> thanks
[13:10] <Kano> hi rtg , there are several issues with your 2.6.30 kernel
[13:11] <Kano> first
[13:12] <Kano> drivers/staging/Kconfig b/drivers/staging/Kconfig
[13:12] <Kano> why on earth did you disable 3 drivers?
[13:12] <Kano> funnyly you even patched one of those disabled drivers
[13:13] <Kano> rt2870 got an added id
[13:13] <Kano> but it never was compiled
[13:13] <Kano> that added id conflicts merging with
[13:14] <Kano> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=a9ed12e5c149b05adf13bea5f1e96d68c2127faf
[13:14] <Kano> thats after rc5,but add it, then you could add the added it you have in your tree
[13:15] <Kano> i hate to resolve it everytime
[13:15] <Kano> next
[13:15] <Kano> i found the issue why the kernel did not boot on my systems with saa7136 tv card
[13:16] <Kano> the error was s626 module
[13:17] <Kano> can be solved when you do disable CONFIG_COMEDI, which is useless for me anyway
[13:18] <Kano> last thing is
[13:18] <Kano> if you want to be able to use fglrx with all tricks then you need
[13:18] <Kano> http://kanotix.com/files/excalibur/linux-2.6.30-generic/source/2.6.30-export-flush_tlb_page.patch
[13:18] <Kano> and if you do not want to use a very huge patch then use
[13:18] <Kano> http://kanotix.com/files/excalibur/linux-2.6.30-generic/source/2.6.29-ubuntu-copy-headers-for-fglrx.patch
[13:19] <Kano> Host/Kernel/OS  "Kanotix" running Linux 2.6.30-4-generic i686 [ Kanotix Excalibur 20090506-17:27 ]
[13:19] <Kano> CPU Info        (1) Intel Core2 Duo E8400 @ clocked at [ 2999.000 MHz ]
[13:19] <Kano>                 (2) Intel Core2 Duo E8400 @ clocked at [ 1999.000 MHz ]
[13:19] <Kano> Videocard       ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450  X.Org 1.4.2  [ 1680x1050 ]
[13:19] <Kano> Processes 140 | Uptime 1:03 | Memory 438.3/1977.9MB | HDD Size 1000GB (6%used) | GLX Renderer ATI Radeon HD 3450 | GLX Version 2.1.8591 | Client Konversation 1.1 | Infobash v2.67.1
[13:19] <Kano> with those patches it is possible to run fglrx
[13:19] <Kano> the export is absolutely required
[13:20] <soren> Kano: Why exactly is it that you don't report this on Launchpad? IRC is a horrible, horrible bug tracker.
[13:21] <soren> Horrible.
[13:21] <Kano> soren: there is no 2.6.30 in launchpad
[13:21] <Kano> as it is only git
[13:21] <Kano> or where are the packages
[13:21] <soren> a) yes, there is.
[13:21] <soren> b) that does not make IRC a better bug tracker.
[13:21] <apw> Kano, you are reporting issues with karmics kernel... as you say 'your 2.6.30'
[13:22] <Kano> soren: not my problem, i fixed the issues, fix em or leave it
[13:22] <apw> therefore there is a package to report it against
[13:22] <Kano> apw: i use git
[13:22] <Kano> as i require changes
[13:22] <Kano> which are not that important for u
[13:22] <apw> i use keyboards that doesn't mean that there isn't a bug tracker
[13:22] <Kano> fix it or not
[13:23] <ogra> fun
[13:23] <soren> Aw.
[13:25] <apw> there really are packages of the karmic kernel in the karmic release pocket
[13:27]  * TheMuso reads the above exchange, and finds himself thinking that if were on the kernel team, he'd ignore kano's "bug reports" out of spite. :)(
[13:38] <apw> heh, no we just tend to lose things that are only in irc
[13:40] <TheMuso> apw: I know that. kano refuses to use a bug tracker period. I've seen some things fixed that he's brought up in here, but I am sure there are many that aren'
[13:40] <TheMuso> apw: I know that. kano refuses to use a bug tracker period. I've seen some things fixed that he's brought up in here, but I am sure there are many that aren't.
[14:54] <apw> smb, can you remind me what was triggered when libusual was enabled
[14:55] <smb> apw, With libusual enabled this would try to handle registration of usb storage devices, which would try to load usb-storage rather early as it was built in
[14:56] <apw> ahh yes, usb storange, thanks
[14:56] <smb> no worries :)
[15:02] <apw> cking, your machine which is showing the bad sound ... what kernel is it running?
[15:05] <cking> 2.6.28-12.43
[15:10] <cking> apw: I don't think it's a kernel issue. The error I get is a pulseaudio big. "The CPU load limiter only becomes active as result of PA entering an
[15:10] <cking> endless loop of some kind. It's only symptom of a bug somewhere, but
[15:10] <cking> gives no hint where it actually is."
[15:10] <apw> i think that means you have the appropriate 'fixes' for the pointers stuff as i understand it, which might be triggering confused pulse
[15:11] <cking> I suppose I can roll back to an earlier kernel and test
[15:12] <cking> I've just spotted: hda-intel: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj.
[16:53] <apw> rtg this FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL config change, do we know how much other firmware this may bring into the kernel other than the keyspan stuff?
[16:54] <rtg> apw: I think you have to selectively pick the drivers that get firmware. I think the option just enables those selections
[16:57] <apw> there appears to be a few other things which use fw-shipped-* in the Makefiles, which would be changed by it, as as soon as this option is turned on we longer put any firmware for any device which is =y into the firmware module from the kernel
[16:57] <apw> s/module/result blob/
[16:57] <apw> so i assume all of that firmware must go into the kernel image as well
[16:57] <apw> it doesn't look like _that_ much, just making sure its what you expect
[16:58] <apw> mod-fw := $(fw-shipped-m)
[16:58] <apw> # If CONFIG_FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL isn't set, then install the
[16:58] <apw> # firmware for in-kernel drivers too.
[16:58] <apw> ifndef CONFIG_FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL
[16:58] <apw> mod-fw += $(fw-shipped-y)
[16:58] <apw> endif
[16:58] <apw> installed-mod-fw := $(addprefix $(INSTALL_FW_PATH)/,$(mod-fw))
[16:59] <rtg> apw: shit. I would not have expected that enabling the option would adversely affect other drivers.
[16:59] <rtg> apw: so, should we put it in the linux-firmware package instead?
[17:01] <apw> rtg, risk wise perhaps so for sru ... a difficult call.  what happens to the firmware blob that the kernel builds during build of the kernel
[17:01] <apw> i wonder if that should be making its way wholesale into the firmware package
[17:01] <Kano> rtg: when do you merge aufs2?
[17:01] <Kano> rtg: http://aufs.sourceforge.net/README.aufs2
[17:02] <rtg> apw: dunno, lemme look at it again.
[17:02] <Kano> in the test live image is even squashfs 3.1 used, that will never work
[17:02] <Kano> you need a cvs snapshot
[17:02] <Kano> user space of course
[17:03] <Kano> as squashfs 4 is in the kernel since .29
[17:04] <Kano> hmm you are lucky,there is even a final 4.0
[17:04] <Kano> in sid
[17:05] <Kano> when i build my .29 test image i had to use cvs
[17:06] <Kano> well merge aufs2 (it is already .30 compatible) + update squashfs-tools in karmic, then you can hope ;)
[17:08] <Kano> rtg: do you want to update jaunty to <IP_ADDRESS> today?
[17:08] <apw> jaunty is released now so anything like that would be an sru
[17:08] <apw> that said i thought .28 was already in git
[17:08] <Kano> apw: i mean the jaunty branch
[17:08] <Kano> i do not use precompiled kernels
[17:09] <apw> the jaunty git tree has .10 in it
[17:09] <apw> commit 8bdd945b77faa2d7c63ad669d2d8b1a623c57e67
[17:09] <apw> Author: Greg Kroah-Hartman<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:09] <apw> Date:   Sat May 2 11:54:43 2009 -0700
[17:09] <apw>     Linux <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:09] <Kano> ok
[17:09] <Kano> will compile it now
[17:11] <Kano> or do you want to add some more fixes soon?
[17:12] <apw> there are always commits in the pipeline
[17:13] <apw> as for aufs, that pending a decision on how live cd's will be done for karmic
[17:14] <Kano> you can have it the kernel even if you dont use it ;)
[17:14] <Kano> as you can use it without a live system too
[17:14] <apw> no point in carrying delta for something we don't use
[17:15] <Kano> so how do you want to create live images? anything new in casper yet
[17:15] <apw> no decision that i am aware of no
[17:15] <Kano> well i create live images, you talk about em ;)
[17:19] <Kano> apw: did you rebase jaunty today? or since when is there .10?
[17:19] <apw> jaunty doesn't rebase its released.  the commits for .10 went in about the 2nd
[17:20] <Kano> ok, then i have it already
[17:22] <Kano> so all i have to try now is aufs2... bbl
[20:06] <cluk> Hi
[20:07] <cluk> I am trying to provide linux-vserver kernel packages based on the ubuntu kernel in my ppa at:
[20:07] <cluk> https://launchpad.net/~christoph-lukas/+archive/ppa
[20:08] <cluk> the vserver kernel image for jaunty is working fine, the vserver functionality is also working fine
[20:08] <cluk> but I get an kernel oops when I try to load the nvidia module 180.44 build via dkms for this kernel.
[20:08] <cluk> could anybody help me debugging this issue?
[20:09] <cluk> the oops is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/169897/
[22:17] <cluk> my linux-headers package seems to be broken which seems to break the nvidia module.
[22:17] <cluk> sorry for the noise.


[04:11] <ianorlyn> nhaines: I hope it stays up to date better than man apparmor
[04:12] <ianorlyn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor/+bug/1495170
[04:12] <darthrobot> Title: [Bug #1495170 “man apparmor still assumes upstart as init " : Bugs : apparmor package : Ubuntu]
[04:12] <ianorlyn> ths should be easy to confirm
[04:14] <nhaines> Patches welcome.  :D
[04:15] <ianorlyn> I am not sure  I understand how it works well enough I was reading it myself
[18:36] <philipballew> pleia2, pm?
[18:37] <pleia2> philipballew: go for it :)
[19:26] <MichaelPaoli> BerkeleyLUG - already in progress at Bobby G's - 'till 3pm http://berkeleylug.com/meetings/
[19:26] <darthrobot> Title: [Meetings | BerkeleyLUG]
[19:27] <DonkeyHotei> MichaelPaoli: and how's that going?
[19:29] <MichaelPaoli> Attendance bit lighter today - thus far two people here ... there's Solano Avenue Stroll also going on not too far away, plus also some event at Berkeley Civic Center Park, and some sports goop on the non-interactive video display thingies here which a bunch 'o folks seem to be staring at and sometimes making noise about.
[20:03] <MichaelPaoli> ... 4 here now.


[00:22] <ccheney> pitti: sorry about earlier, i'm off until jan 4
[00:22] <ccheney> pitti: wrt the xulrunner status i have the wiki page up to date with what is currently using it on for the various releases
[00:26] <asac> ccheney: you are off?
[00:27] <asac> gtk ;)
[00:28] <ccheney> asac: yea
[00:29] <asac> have a great vac then ;)
[00:29] <asac> if you need some action we should start backporting stuff ;)
[00:31] <ccheney> do we need to put the new firefox in before converting the packages over, or what is the next step?
[03:58] <TheMuso> robert_ancell: Usually the keyboard module in the kernel has an option to allow you to revert the fn functinoality, and I even think this is adjustable in the keyboard prefs.
[03:59] <robert_ancell> TheMuso, yes, I figured it was configurable but if it is the default then it's only a feature for advanced users
[04:02] <TheMuso> robert_ancell: I agree with you there. I know on my MacBook Pro, I have to change it, as I prefer to use brightness/volume etc with the fn key, because I am less likely to use them than I am using a function key proper.
[04:03] <robert_ancell> TheMuso, yes, I'm very surprised my laptop has "disable wifi" on the p
[04:03] <robert_ancell> F2 key - that seems way to easy to bump
[04:03]  * TheMuso nods.
[04:26] <robert_ancell> TheMuso, I just screwed up a package version, is 2.28.0-0ubuntu6netbook2 greater than 2.28.0-0ubuntu6netbook1ubuntu2?
[04:30] <kenvandine> robert_ancell, 2.28.0-0ubuntu6netbook2 is greater than 2.28.0-0ubuntu6netbook1ubuntu2?
[04:30] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, thanks :)
[04:30] <kenvandine> np
[04:31] <kenvandine> dpkg --compare-versions
[04:31] <kenvandine> :)
[04:31] <robert_ancell> dch keeps confusing me
[04:31] <kenvandine> me too
[04:31] <kenvandine> :)
[08:37] <didrocks> pitti: lool sponsored my work on une session if you didn't notice. Sorry for the conffile mess up, it was the first time I moved a conffile and I didn't thought about existing "non standard" configuration. It's in my mind now ;)
[08:42] <seb128> hey there!
[08:44] <didrocks> salut seb128, il n'y a personne pour le moment ;) ça va ?
[08:44] <seb128> salut didrocks, oui, et toi ?
[08:44] <didrocks> ça va, plus que 2 jours et des poussières \o/
[08:48] <chrisccoulson> good morning everyone
[08:48] <seb128> hey chrisccoulson
[08:48] <seb128> how are you?
[08:48] <didrocks> morning chrisccoulson
[08:48] <chrisccoulson> hey seb128 / didrocks
[08:49] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'm good thanks, just got some coffee :)
[08:49] <chrisccoulson> how are you?
[08:49] <seb128> still a bit sleepy but good thanks
[08:51] <chrisccoulson> pitti - would you mind me doing a karmic SRU for bug 428884, in gnome-screensaver? it seems that users are becoming a bit unhappy that it doesn't work properly now
[08:56] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur: i just saw bug 450934 - that's not really a bug there
[08:56] <chrisccoulson> that gconf key is not used by gnome-screensaver any more
[08:56] <chrisccoulson> it uses the idle delay set by a key owned by gnome-session
[08:57] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur - the correct key is actually /desktop/gnome/session/idle_delay
[09:02] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - are you looking forward to the festive break?
[09:03] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: maybe we should ask upstream to remove this key from the schema, so.
[09:03] <seb128> chrisccoulson, yes, very much!
[09:03] <chrisccoulson> didrocks - yeah, possibly
[09:03] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - do you finish this week?
[09:03] <seb128> chrisccoulson, do you take holidays for the end of year?
[09:04] <seb128> chrisccoulson, yes, friday after work until next year
[09:04] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - i've used all my holiday already, so I'm working up until christmas eve ;)
[09:04] <seb128> :-(
[09:04] <seb128> good luck with that
[09:04] <chrisccoulson> but i will probably be the only one here ;)
[09:04] <seb128> I might be around every now and then
[09:04] <seb128> I'm not planning any travelling or anything
[09:04] <seb128> so I will probably be bored by moments or be wanting to do some hacking
[09:05] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - that's probably how i will spend the time between christmas and new year ;)
[09:06] <didrocks> seb128: won't you plan some video games on the wii too? (btw, did you buy zelda?) ;)
[09:06] <seb128> didrocks, I will probably, not yet, I'm not decided on what game to get
[09:07] <didrocks> ok :)
[09:07] <seb128> didrocks, what about you?
[09:07] <chrisccoulson> you have a wii?
[09:07] <seb128> anything planed for holidays?
[09:08] <didrocks> seb128: going to my parents' home (in Alpes), rest, video games, ski and a little hacking too :)
[09:08] <seb128> cool
[09:08] <seb128> chrisccoulson, yes, what about you?
[09:08] <didrocks> but rest mainly, before working hard on January ^^
[09:08] <seb128> do you play video games sometime?
[09:08] <seb128> I've to admit I don't play often
[09:08] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - yeah, i got one for my girlfriend, but she never uses it
[09:08] <seb128> I'm too busy during the week and weekend are short
[09:08] <chrisccoulson> and i've not used it either, due to lack of time ;)
[09:08] <seb128> too many things to do, like sleeping
[09:08] <didrocks> (same for me, only playing during holidays)
[09:09] <seb128> but during a 2 weeks break I will probably manage to play a game
[09:09] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: you know, you have to train at wii sport (tennis especially) to enter the seb128's challenge at next UDS :)
[09:10] <chrisccoulson> lol
[09:10] <chrisccoulson> i can imagine if i practise tennis in my small lounge, then i will probably break something ;)
[09:10] <seb128> I've learnt to not play against vuntz after midnight when you had some drinks
[09:11] <didrocks> hehe :)
[09:11] <seb128> he's not drinking and that's not a fair game there ;-)
[09:11] <chrisccoulson> lol
[09:11] <didrocks> I totally agree, that's not fair :)
[09:11] <seb128> I managed to do better at tetris at least
[09:11] <seb128> ;-)
[09:12] <didrocks> sure, I'll have to train a lot those 3 weeks too :-)
[09:12] <seb128> what game do you play usually during holidays ?
[09:12] <seb128> the mario kart?
[09:13] <seb128> is that fun in solo mode too?
[09:13] <didrocks> I've finished mario kart and I don't play too much online. solo mode is great, but I prefer when you can get some people home :)
[09:13] <seb128> right
[09:13] <chrisccoulson> we've got mario kart, but i've not played it yet
[09:13] <seb128> that's like wii sport
[09:14] <didrocks> and my girlfriend don't like video games anymore, so...
[09:14] <didrocks> seb128: exactly, that's why I'm not good at tennis :p
[09:14] <seb128> didrocks, lol, "anymore"
[09:14] <didrocks> yes, she played a lot when she was younger... but no more nowdays
[09:15] <seb128> you are too good and doesn't let other people win? ;-)
[09:15] <didrocks> well, now, I'm playing to RPG or ARPG like zelda, final fantasy, kingdom hearts...
[09:15] <vuntz> seb128: pff
[09:15] <vuntz> seb128: this had nothing to do with the time or drinks
[09:15] <didrocks> seb128: the only sport I'm good at wii sport is golf ;) I don't play too much with the other games
[09:16] <vuntz> seb128: we can have a game whenever you want ;-)
[09:17] <Keybuk> tjaalton, tseliot: that xkbcomp patch made all the difference! :)
[09:17] <seb128> vuntz, ok, next time I will be ready for you :-)
[09:17] <Keybuk> X.org today 1.39s
[09:17] <Keybuk> (budget 2s)
[09:18] <seb128> yeah, extra time for desktop login! ;-)
[09:18] <tjaalton> Keybuk: really? how much exactly?
[09:18] <tseliot> Keybuk: great news :-) and it was just a two lines fix
[09:18] <didrocks> seb128: I'm afraid that's rather 0.61s more for plymounth :)
[09:18] <didrocks> plymouth*
[09:19]  * seb128 kicks didrocks
[09:19] <tjaalton> meh, I want the X25-M G2 already..
[09:19] <didrocks> hey, that hurts :-)
[09:19] <Keybuk> didrocks: one of the main reasons plymouth isn't going in yet is because I want the boot time fixed ;)
[09:19] <Keybuk> so plymouth can be forbidden from increasing it
[09:20] <didrocks> seb128: Ctrl+w again on the wrong screen? :)
[09:20] <didrocks> Keybuk: oh, ok :)
[09:20] <seb128> indeed
[09:26] <tjaalton> Keybuk: that time could maybe shrink even more, by disabling the record extension which is broken, and not letting evdev grab bogus devices
[09:27] <Keybuk> tjaalton: Do. It.
[09:27] <tjaalton> hehe
[09:27] <Keybuk> if you want to shove something in a PPA for me to test, I have hardware to spare <g>
[09:27] <tjaalton> ok then
[09:29] <tjaalton> you can probably change 65-xorg-evdev.rules by hand. for testing it should be enough to match only INPUT_MOUSE and INPUT_KEYBOARD (and not subsystem "input")
[09:29] <mac_v> anyone know if MacSlow is on vacation?
[09:33] <tjaalton> Keybuk: xserver uploaded to my ppa: https://edge.launchpad.net/~tjaalton/+archive/ppa
[09:33] <tjaalton> will take a while to build
[09:34] <Keybuk> ok
[09:38] <tjaalton> looks like RECORD is being fixed upstream, and could get in a 1.7.x, but at least the server won't spend time disabling it :)
[09:43] <tseliot> mac_v: yes, he's on holiday today
[09:44] <mac_v> tseliot: ah , thanks..
[09:48] <seb128> mvo, hi
[09:49] <seb128> mvo, did you read my xapian comment yesterday?
[09:50] <Keybuk> tjaalton: the evdev change didn't seem to make a difference
[09:51] <mvo> hey seb128
[09:51] <mvo> seb128: no, sorry - was that on irc?
[09:52] <seb128> mvo, yes
[09:52] <seb128> mvo, indicator-application want exact string matching to work
[09:52] <Keybuk> tjaalton: then again, it doesn't look like I have any other input devices on here for it to affect
[09:52] <seb128> mvo, ie typing "indicator-applicatio" doesn't list it
[09:53] <seb128> mvo, or indicator-appli
[09:53] <seb128> or whatever which is not the exact name
[09:53] <Keybuk> actually, scratch that, there's loads from things like the webcam and lid switch
[09:54] <Keybuk> it could have made a difference
[09:54] <Keybuk> http://people.canonical.com/~scott/tmp/ratchet-lucid-20091216-5.png
[09:54] <Keybuk> only 1.28s to start X
[09:55] <mvo> seb128: indicator-application is not showing up at all for me currently
[09:55] <seb128> mvo, did you type "indicator-application"?
[09:55] <seb128> mvo, weird it's there for over a day in lucid
[09:57] <tjaalton> Keybuk: ok, so another 0.1s
[09:57]  * mvo checks if his apt-xapian-index is up-to-date
[09:58] <bryce> tjaalton, disabling extensions probably has negligible impact
[09:58] <mvo> seb128: thanks, I have it now (a-x-i was not updated, that is part of the spec but not implemented yet)
[09:58] <Keybuk> tjaalton: yeah, that's a win
[09:59] <Keybuk> every tenth counts
[09:59] <mvo> seb128: hm, I get it with indicator-app, but its very low ranked
[09:59] <Keybuk> if we fix ten things that each take 0.1s, that's 1s
[09:59] <seb128> mvo, do you get the issue?
[09:59] <seb128> mvo, indicator-appli is empty therze
[09:59] <seb128> there
[09:59] <seb128> like nothing in the list
[09:59] <mvo> seb128: yeah, I have that too, I suspect its the "-" in the name, I think I need to handle it secial
[09:59] <bryce> tjaalton, from what I can tell, the biggest win would come from improving whatever happens right before the EDID probing
[09:59]  * mvo scratches his head
[10:00] <tseliot> Keybuk: if you want to disable the record extension without rebuilding X you can put something like this in xorg.conf: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/342590/
[10:00] <Keybuk> I don't have an xorg.conf ;)
[10:01] <Keybuk> your xorg-server has built now
[10:01] <tseliot> good
[10:01] <tseliot> bryce: do you mean in the kernel or in X?
[10:02] <bryce> X
[10:02] <tjaalton> bryce: the edid trickery in drm probably made it fast on intel, the driver is done after 0.635s, but then it sits idle for 0.8s and there's the message about RECORD being disabled due to it being broken
[10:02] <tjaalton> so I don't know if disabling it helps at all, but we'll see
[10:02] <bryce> tjaalton, I think it's going to be negligible
[10:03] <tjaalton> bryce: yep, could be
[10:03] <bryce> I didn't play with RECORD, but I didn't find that flipping extensions off made much difference
[10:03] <tjaalton> but in this case it seems like the server is doing something and figuring out that the extension is broken, and disables it
[10:03] <bryce> also I think having an xorg.conf present slows things down, so disabling them by adding an xorg.conf actually makes boots take longer
[10:04] <tjaalton> that's why I think it _might_ have an impact
[10:04] <bryce> but I didn't test that exhaustively
[10:05] <bryce> tjaalton, is RECORD broken on the test hardware?
[10:06] <tjaalton> bryce: it's broken in 1.7
[10:06] <bryce> it seems to be present and working on my test box and loading it takes a negligible amount of boot time
[10:06] <bryce> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/342594/
[10:07] <tjaalton> scroll down :)
[10:07] <tjaalton> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/342595/
[10:08] <bryce> tjaalton, ah
[10:08] <bryce> [    1.042708] (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
[10:08] <bryce> record: RECORD extension enabled at configure time.
[10:08] <bryce> record: This extension is known to be broken, disabling extension now..
[10:08] <bryce> record: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20500
[10:08] <bryce> [    1.073194] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
[10:09] <tjaalton> ok, so in your case it didn't spend much time on that
[10:09] <bryce> 0.03 sec
[10:09] <tjaalton> maybe it was the AIGLX init that took time here
[10:09] <bryce> is it "broken but needs fixed" or "broken and should just be removed" ?
[10:10] <tjaalton> the former
[10:10] <tjaalton> patches available on that bug
[10:10] <tjaalton> not yet in master
[10:10] <bryce> if the former, then counting boot benefit from disabling it is just cheating.  ;-)
[10:10] <tjaalton> right, I mentioned that earlier :)
[10:11] <Keybuk> tjaalton: can't see any difference in the record patch
[10:11] <Keybuk> likely lost in the noise
[10:11] <tjaalton> Keybuk: yeah
[10:11] <mvo> seb128: its defenitely something odd with xapian, it breaks the query into two sub-queries
[10:11] <mvo> seb128: thanks for letting me know
[10:12] <seb128> mvo, np, do you want a bug report?
[10:12] <mvo> seb128: no, I work on it now
[10:12] <seb128> mvo, ok thanks
[10:33] <huats> morning everyone !
[10:37] <chrisccoulson> good morning huats
[13:02] <qense> The 'DesktopTeam/TODO' page linked to from the /topic of this channel doesn't exist. This probably doesn't mean there isn't anything to do, does it?
[13:03] <seb128> no, it means that was not uptodate and has been cleaned
[13:03] <seb128> the todolists are the other topic urls
[13:03] <seb128> updates and milestoned bugs
[13:04] <qense> ah, I see
[13:04] <qense> shouldn't the page be created though? It could point to those other two pages.
[13:08] <seb128> ups
[13:08] <seb128> qense, better?
[13:08] <qense> yep
[13:13] <mdeslaur> chrisccoulson: ah! thanks for the hint, for some reason that slipped my mind.
[13:14] <chrisccoulson> mdeslaur - you're welcome :)
[13:20] <mdeslaur> asac: would you like me to post my modemmanager patch to the networkmanager-list, or are you going to take a look at it?
[13:24] <asac> mdeslaur: did you poke me about that before ?;)
[13:24] <asac> bug id?
[13:25] <mdeslaur> asac: bug #496206
[13:25] <asac> mdeslaur: thx
[13:26] <mdeslaur> asac: yes, I poked you about it before, but wasn't sure if you're still doing NM stuff
[13:27] <asac> mdeslaur: you didnt tell me you submitted a patch ;)
[13:27] <asac> i need pings or bug assignments t;)
[13:27] <mdeslaur> asac: you must have missed it :)
[13:28] <asac> mdeslaur: so ... haveńt looked at code, but why is that +CGMM already in the mm log you attached
[13:28] <mdeslaur> because in my case ATI is successful, so it's getting the CGMM from the code a few lines below my patch
[13:29]  * asac updates his mm branch ;)
[13:29] <mdeslaur> once CGMM fails in my logs, task_priv->probe_state == PROBE_STATE_LAST
[13:29] <mdeslaur> the code is slightly confusing, as task_priv->probe_state is tracking the _next_ probe that should be done, not the probe that just completed
[13:30] <mdeslaur> so PROBE_STATE_CGMM should try CGMM, not assume that CGMM failed
[13:30] <milanbv> mpt: would you help me phrasing some strings for the gnome-system-tools? I know you're interested in them
[13:35] <chrisccoulson> hey milanbv
[13:35] <milanbv> hi!
[13:35] <chrisccoulson> i don't often see you on here!
[13:36] <milanbv> no, I guess I should add this channel to my favorite
[13:36] <chrisccoulson> did you see we've got g-s-t 2.29.1 now ;)
[13:36] <milanbv> yeah, nice:!
[13:36] <milanbv> hope people won't spot to many bugs - that's a work in progress
[13:36] <asac> mdeslaur: yeah. i will commit that later today. currently thinking if this whole code should be cleaned up ;)
[13:37] <chrisccoulson> milanbv - we want users to spot bugs at this stage of the cycle though ;)
[13:37] <mdeslaur> asac: yeah, it's kind of ugly that it's all in there twice
[13:37] <mdeslaur> thanks asac
[13:37] <asac> i mean ... we already set the cmd in handle_probe_response
[13:37] <milanbv> yeah, but better if there aren't
[13:37] <milanbv> so could you help me with those strings?
[13:37] <milanbv> I'm writing the descriptions for the user profiles that will be shown in the next version
[13:37] <asac> mdeslaur: its even in there three time ;)
[13:37] <asac> mdeslaur: check handle_probe_response ;)
[13:37] <mdeslaur> asac: wow :)
[13:38] <asac> that already sets the cmd
[13:38] <asac> but then that gets ignored in the real_  thing and it does its own calc
[13:38] <asac> etc.
[13:38] <milanbv> I'm not very good at finding nice formulations in English, and we have to keep it as simple as possible
[13:39] <milanbv> http://paste.ubuntu.com/342698/
[13:57] <mpt> milanbv, sure
[13:57] <mpt> (sorry, I was in a meeting)
[13:58] <milanbv> hi!
[13:58] <mpt> milanbv, where exactly would these appear?
[13:58] <milanbv> I think it would be nice if we collaborated more closely for the new GUI
[13:58] <milanbv> in a new dialog allowing to choose the account types of an user
[13:58] <milanbv> are you using Lucid?
[13:59] <mpt> milanbv, no, I'm on 9.10
[13:59] <milanbv> wait a minute
[14:01] <seb128> vuntz, hey, do you think you could review https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520226?
[14:01] <seb128> vuntz, it already sort of got reviewed, not sure what is missing for commit
[14:01] <milanbv> mpt: see http://nalimilan.perso.neuf.fr/transfert/Capture.png
[14:02] <milanbv> with pretty stupid descriptions, they were here for tests
[14:02] <mpt> milanbv, often it's tiny things that show the need for big changes
[14:02] <mpt> milanbv, in that screenshot I see the sentence "Use the advanced settings dialog to tune them."
[14:03] <mpt> milanbv, how do I get to the advanced settings dialog from there?
[14:03] <milanbv> you can't
[14:04] <milanbv> that's why I needed you ;-)
[14:04] <milanbv> but that description is already in the C code - the others are in a config file that is not yet committed
[14:05] <milanbv> (I think you can actually install the Lucid version in Karmic, if you want to see it in action)
[14:06] <mpt> milanbv, so, what are three possible ways of making tuning those settings easier?
[14:06] <milanbv> I'm not sure we want to make settings this easier
[14:06] <milanbv> most users should not see this profile at all, if they don't tweak the settings manually
[14:06] <milanbv> (I want to hide that choice if it's not currently selected)
[14:06] <mpt> milanbv, ok then, easier for someone who has already opened this dialog
[14:08] <milanbv> I guess, yes
[14:10] <milanbv> (BTW, I wrote some explanation of the new UI, including a link the original mockups, at http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2009-December/msg00000.html)
[14:12] <milanbv> have you seen the draft descriptions I pasted?
[14:13] <mpt> milanbv, so while you're thinking about that, here's another awkwardness: Those draft descriptions heavily use generalities -- "uncommon tasks", "most common tasks", "such as".
[14:14] <milanbv> yes
[14:14] <milanbv> hard to define precisely what people are allowed to do with admin rights...
[14:15] <mpt> milanbv, those two things combined tell me that the configurable list of actual actions should be presented in the same window as the basic choice.
[14:15] <mpt> (actual actions -> actual permissions)
[14:16] <milanbv> you mean, in a new tab?
[14:17] <milanbv> the problem is, I don't think most people should ever have to look at them
[14:17] <milanbv> which is why I moved them to an advanced tab
[14:17] <mpt> milanbv, but you're having trouble explaining what each account type is for, precisely because you're not showing what they can actually do.
[14:18] <mpt> milanbv, I suggest something like this: http://imgur.com/WzGaf
[14:19] <mpt> milanbv, where the checked status of the checkboxes (and *maybe* the sensitivity of the list as a whole) changes depending on the choice from the initial menu.
[14:19] <milanbv> hm, privileges defined as groups in our privileges table don't really define what you can do - because being member of the admin group allows many PolicyKit actions
[14:19] <mpt> milanbv, I have another meeting now, back shortly
[14:19] <milanbv> OK
[14:37] <mvo> seb128: do you mind if I take bug #487249 ? or is there something controversila about it
[14:38] <seb128> mvo, I was about to close that one and look to the git gudev port too
[14:38] <seb128> mvo, I'm doing sponsoring this afternoon
[14:38] <seb128> mvo, any particular reason you looked at it?
[14:38] <mvo> seb128: sponsoring hour
[14:38] <seb128> ok
[14:38] <mvo> seb128: it seems to be trivial, if you don't mind I upload it now
[14:38] <seb128> ok thanks
[14:39] <qense> When are bugs assigned to ubuntu-desktop? I can't find guidelines for that.
[14:39] <seb128> mvo, btw I wanted to discuss compiz with Amaranth and you at some point too
[14:39] <seb128> mvo, he did split compiz in some 27 binaries or something
[14:39] <mvo> seb128: hu???
[14:39] <seb128> qense, we tend to assign desktop bugs to the list
[14:40] <seb128> mvo, he said he splitted every option in its own binary I think
[14:40] <seb128> mvo, I'm not sure I like it over having just a -universe with things we don't want by default
[14:40] <seb128> and drop buggy options we don't want to support on the way
[14:40]  * mvo checks bzr
[14:41] <seb128> mvo, I don't think he pushed to the ubuntu bzr I told him to put on hold until we discuss it
[14:41] <seb128> but perhaps in his ppa or something
[14:41] <mvo> seb128: ok, thanks. I was not aware of this change
[14:41] <mvo> seb128: when he is back I'm happy to discuss it
[14:41] <seb128> ok good
[14:41] <seb128> mvo, what is your gut feeling about it?
[14:42] <seb128> the multiscreen doesn't suit me
[14:42] <mvo> seb128: splitting every plugin is overdoing it
[14:42] <seb128> I keep having focus on the screen I'm not looking at ;-)
[14:42] <seb128> mvo, ok, my feeling too
[14:42] <mvo> seb128: I want to know some more first :)
[14:43] <milanbv> seb128: any chance somebody review #393854 for Lucid?
[14:43] <mpt> milanbv, I don't understand how that "because" works in your last statement. Is it possible to tell what a member of the admin group is allowed to do?
[14:44] <milanbv> not from users-admin - it depends on what the PolicyKit policy allows members of the admin group to do
[14:44] <seb128> who asked about desktop-bugs assigned before?
[14:44] <seb128> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~desktop-bugs/+packagebugs
[14:44] <seb128> is the desktop packages list
[14:44] <qense> I did
[14:44] <seb128> or https://bugs.launchpad.net/~desktop-bugs/+packagebugs
[14:44] <seb128> qense, ^
[14:44] <milanbv> so basically, this includes installing/upgrading, erasing partitions...
[14:45] <seb128> we tend to assign teams for things there but that's not a requirement
[14:45] <qense> you assign all triaged bugs of packages on those pages to desktop-bugs?
[14:46] <milanbv> mpt: actually, I think our privileges table is kind of messy, because we're currently not 100% PolicyKit, since we're still using Unix groups for some actions
[14:48] <seb128> qense, we tend to do it but maybe we should revisit that
[14:48] <seb128> it has no real interest nowadays I think
[14:48] <mpt> milanbv, if there was an "Advanced" tab for anything, I think it would be for that, i.e. putting the account into those various system Unix groups
[14:49] <milanbv> that's mostly what it does
[14:49] <milanbv> (plus setting shell, home dir, UID...)
[14:49] <qense> seb128: ok, thanks for your help
[14:50] <seb128> milanbv, could you give that bug reference again? I close the tab by mistake before looking at it now
[14:50] <milanbv> seb128: #393854
[14:50] <seb128> bug #393854
[14:51] <seb128> no bot?
[14:51] <milanbv> when people seek to change their account type, the only question I think we must answer is "what of those 3 types should I choose"?
[14:52] <milanbv> this choice is really simple: user with restricted rights for "strangers", desktop user for most people, admin for the user that usually configures the computer
[14:52] <seb128> milanbv, I will try to get an opinion from somebody in the security team about that
[14:52] <milanbv> OK, thanks
[14:52] <seb128> I've ignored it so far because I'm not sure about it
[14:52] <milanbv> I don't think that's really a problem, GDM upstream uses this config file too
[14:54] <seb128> well the config file is not so much, but the group adding I'm not sure it's gdm's job
[14:55] <milanbv> seb128: we can do this basically anywhere, but logically we can only be sure when installing GDM that the system supports this feature
[14:55] <milanbv> which in turn leads to enabling the checkbox in users-admin
[14:56] <seb128> I'm still not sure I like the idea of no password but shrugh
[14:56] <seb128> let's see what security guys say
[14:57] <seb128> hey rickspencer3
[14:58] <rickspencer3> hi seb128
[14:58] <seb128> vuntz, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357934, want to review that one? ;-)
[14:59] <seb128> vuntz, it's a fairly trivial change
[14:59] <milanbv> mpt: I have to go soon
[15:00] <milanbv> do you think you'll be able to read the design document by Clasen & McCann on the mail I posted (and even to install the development package)?
[15:00] <milanbv> then we could discuss more deeply what we should do
[15:28] <seb128> ok, I managed to unactivate ctrl-w now
[15:28] <seb128> should make me stop to close this tab ;-)
[15:31] <didrocks> :-)
[15:40] <Krzysztof> seriously, what's going on with freenode lately?
[15:42] <mpt> mvo, is the software-center PPA kept up to date automatically?
[15:45] <mpt> mvo, and if it isn't, what should I do to get bzr trunk running again? (No such file or directory: '/usr/share/app-install/desktop/software-center.menu')
[15:48] <mvo> mpt: its not kept automatically, I uploaded a new version now for the ppa, there is a "daily" ppa that jcastro manages too
[15:53] <fagan> mpt: I mentioned to mvo that it would be nice to list the installed software section by the most recently installed software what do you think?
[16:00] <Krzysztof> chrisccoulson, can you take a look at bug 457123 ? I need someone to upload it :)
[16:03] <chrisccoulson> hi Krzysztof - i'll take a look at that as long as i'm permitted to upload to karmic
[16:03] <chrisccoulson> (i think i can)
[16:23] <seb128> asac, hey
[16:24] <seb128> asac, are you still going to look at the gnome-bluetooth update?
[16:25] <asac> hmm. thought baptistemm did that
[16:25] <asac> baptistemm: whats the status?
[16:25] <seb128> asac, he's waiting for sponsoring for a while now, it on you
[16:25] <baptistemm> waiting for a review
[16:26] <seb128> if I understand things correctly
[16:26] <asac> oh
[16:26] <asac> let me poke that a bit
[16:26] <baptistemm> I wonder if any 2.28.x release was issued in-between
[16:26] <seb128> well there is a 2.29 version now
[16:26] <asac> thats lucid
[16:27] <asac> so yeah
[16:27] <seb128> well I was not aiming at sruing
[16:27] <seb128> so we want 2.29 yes
[16:27] <asac> let me do this, the next update is probably just a new tarball
[16:27] <asac> doesnt need review/poking
[16:27] <seb128> ok thanks
[17:59] <seb128> kenvandine, did you start on the libgksu change to get it in lucid? I'm about to sponsor it now
[17:59] <seb128> just asking in case before duping work
[17:59] <kenvandine> seb128, you can do it :)
[18:00] <seb128> ok
[18:00] <seb128> I'm not sure you can upload it anyway
[18:00] <kenvandine> ok
[18:00] <kenvandine> thx
[18:00] <seb128> I've not figured how sets work exactly
[18:00] <seb128> but I think gksu is rather a platform bit
[18:04] <jcastro_> seb128: do you know if transmission's systray icon off by default is upstream behavior or do we do that?
[18:06] <seb128> jcastro_, let me check
[18:13] <seb128> jcastro_, seems upstream behaviour
[18:13] <jcastro_> ok thanks!
[18:18] <unit3> Quick Q: what desktop app keeps creating the ~/Photos directory, which I don't need or want on my work desktop. ;)
[18:19] <bryce> unit3, this is the development channel, you probably want #ubuntu
[18:19] <bryce> (and sorry, I don't know)
[18:19] <unit3> well, I just figured the dev team would know. but I'll try #ubuntu. :)
[18:20] <seb128> xdg-user-dirs-update could be
[18:20] <seb128> those are in .config
[18:20] <seb128> user-dirs.dirs
[18:20] <seb128> but the photo default is not on the desktop but in your user dir
[18:21] <unit3> I see an entry in there for it, but running " xdg-user-dirs-update" doesn't create it.
[18:21] <unit3> well, actually, user-dirs.dirs says: XDG_PICTURES_DIR="$HOME/"
[18:22] <unit3> not XDG_PICTURES_DIR="$HOME/Photos"
[18:23] <seb128> ok, so I don't know either
[18:23] <seb128> could be the photo application you are using
[18:23] <unit3> ok, well, thanks anyway. I'll ask in #ubuntu.
[18:23] <unit3> I'm not using one. I don't do photo editing on my work desktop.
[18:24] <unit3> hence the annoyance and ~/Photos showing up all the time. ;)
[18:26] <seb128> bryce, hey
[18:26] <seb128> bryce, how do you manage patches for xorg?
[18:26] <seb128> bryce, do you uncheck the patch box for things you reviewed?
[18:27] <seb128> your summary is handy but there is quite some things there which are pending upstream review, etc
[18:27] <seb128> and since launchpad doesn't have patch status to express those, I'm not sure what to do to filter those out
[18:27] <seb128> or do you just class by most recents and assume you reviewed everything old?
[18:28] <seb128> bryce, sorry the question was not clear, it's rather "how do you manage bug reports which have a patch attachment"
[18:29] <bryce> seb128, yes for patches that I review and determine to be not viable, I uncheck the checkbox
[18:31] <bryce> in general my workflow tries to result in getting the bug off the list, so that could be accepting the patch and uploading it, or rejecting it and unmarking it, or closing the bug report as out of date / invalid
[18:32] <seb128> bryce, what do you do for valid patches where you would like an upstream review before uploading?
[18:32] <seb128> keep those on the list?
[18:32] <bryce> yes that's what I've done so far, since I usually want to follow up on those as part of my next day's patch review process
[18:33] <seb128> ok, thanks
[18:33] <seb128> we need patch status on launchpad ;-)
[18:33] <bryce> brb (baby)
[18:40] <seb128> bah, submittodebian is broken in lucid
[18:40] <seb128> it assumes that everything is in bzr
[18:41] <chrisccoulson> good evening everyone
[18:41] <rickspencer3_> hi chrisccoulson
[18:41] <seb128> hey chrisccoulson
[18:41] <chrisccoulson> hi rickspencer3_
[18:41] <seb128> had a good day?
[18:42] <chrisccoulson> hi seb128, yeah, my day wasn't too bad
[18:44] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - did you have a good day too?
[18:44] <seb128> quite ok thanks
[18:44] <seb128> I've not spent the day reading strace logs so that was good
[18:45] <seb128> I managed to clean the sponsoring queue a bit
[18:45] <seb128> getting some fixes in lucid
[18:45] <seb128> and I used bryce's list of bugs with patches to review some bugs too
[18:46] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i saw you reviewed quite a few bugs with patches today
[18:46] <seb128> I strace nautilus a bit too, to see how much time it was spending in the /usr/lib/nautilus .so loading
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> what were the results like?
[18:47] <seb128> everything is done is less that 0.05 seconds
[18:47] <seb128> out of brasero
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> that's not too bad then
[18:47] <seb128> which takes 3 seconds on my laptop and one of the mini config
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> that's quite a long time :-/
[18:47] <seb128> yes
[18:47] <chrisccoulson> any idea what it's doing when it loads?
[18:47] <seb128> it's running lot of commands
[18:47] <seb128> like dvd+rw-info --version
[18:47] <seb128> genisofs --version
[18:47] <seb128> wodim --version
[18:48] <chrisccoulson> hmmmm, they could probably deferred couldn't they?
[18:48] <seb128> seems to get the version of everything it knows by running those
[18:48] <seb128> yes, I opened a bug upstream about that
[18:48] <seb128> (in fact I already did that some days ago before looking at times)
[18:48] <seb128> (I already spotted the execve in the strace)
[18:48] <seb128> but it's good that out of brasero other things are quick
[18:49] <seb128> or not if you consider that we have to get better and that's not going to be on those
[18:49] <chrisccoulson> i'll hopefully get some time to look at g-s-d again soon
[18:49] <chrisccoulson> over the christmas break :)
[19:05] <chrisccoulson> hi mclasen - i had a look at your patches at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24493 , and i have a question
[19:06] <chrisccoulson> how are translations of the strings in the inhibitors handled?
[19:06] <chrisccoulson> ie, say, one session registers an inhibitor and passes a string in one language. how is that presented to another session in a different language?


[02:23] <airmen55> hi all - how do I get rid of the pesky kded5 ??? (I have a different system for this task-)
[02:24] <airmen55> sorrey but i am 71yo and not used linux for abouit 12 ydars till yesterday...
[02:25] <airmen55> so I guess I need to do a command something with    rm *** kded6 etc.. eh what exactly.. ;=)
[02:27] <airmen55> [on the other hand i was using the arpanet via a tty at RAF Commcen Central probably way before most of u here were born!]
[02:28] <airmen55> gimi a break gals & guys..
[02:30] <airmen55> What's with "Share Love?"
[02:33] <airmen55> ya all asleep with youir heads banging down on the keyboard before you finally slide under the table or what!? {where do I know that from... nowadays it don*t happen to me much.. cos for abotiu 40 years I hardly sleep anyhows... heheh}
[02:34] <airmen55> - another "successfull depaterning!" the c i a bot says or wot..
[02:35] <airmen55> eh  is this a "broadcast only-" # or wot? sigh..
[02:37] <airmen55> well lets liven things up a bit -- which sporting and adventerous young lady wants to meet a mature male here in berlin tempelhof in the next hour - youi need to bring y o u r car.. stuff like this on my motorbike is stricky ;=)
[02:38] <airmen55> end of unccessfull OT question - where th fk is the dialogue here people?
[02:39] <airmen55> c o s m i c TOP in clear
[02:39] <airmen55> at least we have woken up the nsa and gchq
[02:40] <airmen55> jesus is kommin again at warp 2 with a battlestaar or 20 to sort out the crap on this sorry planet.. that n e w s IS now classified cosmic top in clear...
[02:42] <airmen55> the preophesies about this event have been arouind for 3000+ years so don*t give me the "neverd heard of it crap!" try this google search     eschatological infos arramagedon"
[02:43] <krytarik> airmen55: Do you realize that this channel is for Kubuntu support only?
[02:43] <airmen55> the good Lord can help me right now toAHHHHHHHH heavens a r e s p o n s e
[02:44] <airmen55> I am here to get help uninstalling kded5
[02:45] <airmen55> krytarik: so can *you* perhaps help me with this bl**dy awefull problem..
[02:48] <airmen55> so 25 kubuntu support interested users and *deafening silence!" sad sad
[02:51] <airmen55> hi ja dolph whats happening pal?
[02:51] <airmen55> who is buying everybody a drink via amazon fresh tonightr!!??
[02:57] <airmen55> "ALEXA - order right now a local 500ml beer for *.the world population.*
[02:58] <airmen55> oh sh*t alexa blew a fuse - right now... baah - lame arsed system...
[02:58] <airmen55> aöö taöl and no action!!
[02:59] <airmen55> e e e all talk and no action!!!
[03:03] <airmen55> mann oh mann ist das hier langweilig.. it is b o r e i n g here -in any languaghe you care for stink-boreing#
 hi airmen55, how can I help?
[05:33] <viewer|54> I try to login with KDE plasma mode in my kubuntu laptop but it is showing invalid password can you help me some to fix this issue ?
[05:35] <swift110> im good Lord_of_Life
[05:35] <swift110> im good lordievader
[09:53] <smr2> test
[09:53] <thecosa> dsahubch
[09:54] <smr2> Puto cosa
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:25] <BluesKaj> !spam | Patrick officiall
[19:06] <kens> EXIT
[19:06] <kens> LEAVE
[19:06] <kens> EXIT
[19:06] <kens> LEAVE


[01:53] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[02:09] <marcoagpinto> night
[02:09] <marcoagpinto> :)
[02:10] <marcoagpinto> to bed I go
[02:10] <marcoagpinto> see you in a few hours
[02:10] <sarnold> gn8 marcoagpinto
[06:33] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:05] <ducasse> good morning


[00:39] <ChmEarl> tomreyn, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xen/+bug/1956166
[00:39] <ChmEarl> ^ my comment is near the end of that bugzilla
[00:41] <znf> I'm still impressed people run Xen anymore
[00:46] <ChmEarl> I built xen-4.15.1 in Jammy on a SandyBridge CPU with no avx2, built was clean and included qemu-6, installs and runs without issue
[00:48] <ChmEarl> that was a month ago, so maybe binutils and libc6 have gone to the dogs
[00:54] <ChmEarl> in recent xen dom0, I launch fedora 35, Jammy, and CentOS Stream 9, all going pv
[00:55] <ChmEarl> no, the CS9 is pvHVM
[06:24] <cpaelzer> ChmEarl: I saw your update and as stated in the referred bug even prepared 4.16 for jammy
[06:24] <cpaelzer> ChmEarl: I've one tester but we struggle with some libvirt issues right now
[06:24] <cpaelzer> ChmEarl: I'm prepping a new libvirt as well and an updated qemu to all go together in a PPA
[06:25] <cpaelzer> ChmEarl: once that is complete I'd call on these xen bug for some testing of these PPAs, that would be great if you could help with that
[06:25] <cpaelzer> stay tuned on the bugs and wish me luck for a low amount of blockers
[13:44] <coreycb> jamespage: icey: fyi I've updated horizon so that we can patch xstatic files, just yoga for now.
[13:44] <icey> \o/