[07:28] <oskude> vanisher: and there is a free flight simulator, dunno the name, google..
[07:28] <Cornelius> !dvbt
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvbt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <boink> !realplay
[07:28] <ubotu> realplay: RealPlayer 10 for Linux is based on the open source Helix player.. In component main, is optional. Version 10.0.8-0ubuntu1 (dapper-commercial), package size 6110 kB, installed size 15456 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:28] <bashusr> hello everyone... what's the latest ubuntu server?
[07:29] <oskude> vanisher: here http://www.flightgear.org/
[07:29] <oskude> bashusr: 6.06
[07:29] <Chimere> Hi, what's the best psx emulator for UB?
[07:29] <Cornelius> !dvb
[07:29] <bashusr> huh?
[07:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:29] <bashusr> i can only find 5.10
[07:29] <vanisher> oskude: Yes i know that, but Microsoft Flight Simulator is very sofisticated.. with online ATC, custom planes etc (like www.vatsim.com)
[07:30] <oskude> vanisher: then use that...
[07:30] <vanisher> oskude: indeed.. that are the only things that keep me of 100% linux :-( http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=2819
[07:30] <oskude> bashusr: hmm, where do you look, i see like this http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
[07:31] <bashusr> ahh
[07:31] <bashusr> i was looking http://mirror.phy.olemiss.edu/mirror/ubuntu/ubuntu-server/
[07:31] <mikeymike> can someone tell me what this means when running sshd Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[07:31] <oskude> vanisher: then go say that to the software makers, and ask for a linux client!
[07:31] <bashusr> oskude: does the server release have LAMP package on the ISO?
[07:31] <oskude> bashusr: dunno, sorry
[07:31] <vanisher> oksude: YEAH DUDE :) Mister Microsoft, please make Windows Vista compatible with linux :)
[07:32] <Tokenbad> oskude, I can't even fdisk the drive
[07:32] <bashusr> Tokenbad: then throw it out!
[07:32] <oskude> vanisher: i said about the programs, not the os...
[07:32] <bashusr> Tokenbad: corrupt!
[07:32] <vanisher> oskude: i know ;-) but i'll guess the answer is the same lol brb coffee time.
[07:32] <oskude> Tokenbad: whats your command ?
[07:33] <oskude> vanisher: and what should we now do about it ?
[07:33] <_stippi_> Hi, I want to convert video files (for example WMV -> AVI), I have so far managed to install the gstreamer plugins necessary to at least watch the videos I want to convert. Can someone recommend a tool for the conversion?
[07:33] <vanisher> oskude: forcing the online flightsim community to use flight gear or something :D
[07:33] <JamesFoster> Vanisher: http://www.x-plane.com/
[07:33] <ArrenLex> stippi: mencoder! :D
[07:33] <bashusr> does ubuntu support linksys usb wireless G network adaptor?
[07:34] <_stippi_> ArrenLex: thanks, I will give that a try
[07:34] <vanisher> oskude: that would only be around 10.000 online people a day ;-) i think that's easier than convincing MS , but enough about that
[07:34] <ArrenLex> stippi: part of the mplayer package, in multiverse
[07:34] <Tokenbad> oskude, I tried fdisk /dev/hdd1
[07:35] <Chimere> What are the .so files on Ubuntu?
[07:35] <oskude> Tokenbad: hmm, thats a partition, fdisk needs a harddisk... and root (sudo) rights...
[07:35] <jolt> static libraries
[07:35] <ArrenLex> Chimere: libraries. Like .dll
[07:35] <_stippi_> ArrenLex: are there any GUI tools too?
[07:36] <Chimere> Thanks Arren.
[07:36] <Tokenbad> oskude, hdd is my second drive
[07:36] <Tokenbad> not a partition
[07:36] <Chimere> Anybody tried to install wxWidgets with Code::Blocks?
[07:36] <oskude> Tokenbad: yup, and you used hdd1
[07:36] <ArrenLex> stippi: yes, but I haven't found any taht work for me. It's easier to use commands once you get the hang of it. mencoder -ovc lavc -oac lavc -lavcopts vbitrate=<videobitrate>:abitrate=<audiobitrate>:vhq <file.wmv> -o <outfile.avi>
[07:37] <ArrenLex> that
[07:37] <ArrenLex> stippi: man mplayer is also wonderful. Although long.
[07:38] <oskude> _stippi_: i used to use transcode
[07:38] <oskude> _stippi_: but it seems dead :/
[07:38] <Tokenbad> oskude, I have tried it both ways...but its cause I didn't use sudo...but even in fdisk I don't know how to fix it
[07:39] <oskude> Tokenbad: fix what ? (and i would use cfdisk for editing partitions)
[07:40] <Tokenbad> oskude, as I said...I have 80 gig drive...before I used gparted and it froze...the drive had over 20 gigs free...now...I tried to partition 20 gigs to another partition...but it froze...now when I start gparted it says 75 gigs of the 80 gig drive is used...so in other words...its had the other space taken up that I was going to use for partition...and no way to get it back..
[07:40] <_stippi_> ArrenLex: I get an error that the output file cannot be opened!!
[07:41] <Tokenbad> oskude, it don't list it as an unused partition
[07:41] <ArrenLex> stippi: are you trying to write the file somewhere you don't have permission to write it?
[07:41] <oskude> Tokenbad: hmm, i just dont get you... this doesn make sence "I tried to partition 20 gigs to another partition"
[07:41] <ArrenLex> stippi: try -o /tmp/file.avi
[07:42] <oskude> Tokenbad: so you dont have any free (unpartitioned) space then
[07:42] <bashusr> is there a ubuntu release that is 650MB or less?
[07:43] <oskude> Tokenbad: if you run "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd" do you see "unpartitioned space" somehwere ?
[07:43] <bashusr> sorta don't have any 700MB CDs lying around
[07:43] <ArrenLex> bashusr: ran into that problem. The edgy install CDs just fit on 650MB cds if you use overburning.
[07:43] <oskude> bashusr: maybe the alternate image
[07:43] <ArrenLex> oskude: no.
[07:43] <bashusr> oskude: alternative is 698
[07:44] <oskude> ArrenLex: bashusr, indeed
[07:44] <Tokenbad> oskude, let me try this again...the drive...its 80 gigs...I had used 45 gigs of it...I wanted to take 20 gigs of the free space on that drive..and partition it off...so could use that 20 gigs for something else...but when gparted froze...it now says there is no free space...when there should be
[07:44] <oskude> bashusr: the server is smaller ;)
[07:45] <oskude> Tokenbad: free partitioned or unpartitioned space ?
[07:45] <bashusr> oskude: can i install a GUI on it?
[07:45] <ArrenLex> bashusr: once you get the core of ubuntu installed, you can install anything you want.
[07:45] <oskude> bashusr: sure, but over internet (or from another cd/dvd(
[07:46] <_stippi_> ArrenLex: for some reason I could not write to fat32.... plus I have these complete system freezes, which I totally hate.
[07:46] <mikeymike> whats that command to find out what chipset the wifi is?
[07:46] <_stippi_> could you repeat that mencoder line for me?
[07:46] <bashusr> ArrenLex: will i have to "configure" anything... or will i be able to just apt-get install GPM and have the same environment as the desktop?
[07:46] <_stippi_> because it worked, before my system froze
[07:46] <ArrenLex> stippi: I never had that problem, and I have a fat32 partition... but I dunno.
[07:46] <highneko> When I minimize a window I see an outline. How do I remove this?
[07:46] <oskude> Tokenbad: as you cant partition a partition in partition :/ so you need UNPARTITIONED space before you can do new partitions (people say you can resize, but i never use that)
[07:46] <ArrenLex> bashusr: I have no idea what gpm is, but I'm pretty sure apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will set you up.
[07:47] <bashusr> ArrenLex: err GDM (gnome display manager)
[07:47] <dfgas> how do i take a screen shot?
[07:47] <bashusr> that's how you used to have to do it back on debian :-p
[07:47] <Tokenbad> osfameron, the drive was never partitioned...I formated it and made it ext3...and then started putting stuff on it...I wanted to take the free space and make that into a partition
[07:47] <oskude> dfgas: the "print-screen" button
[07:47] <_stippi_> ArrenLex: could you repeat that mencoder line for me?
[07:47] <bashusr> so how good is ubuntu support for wireless USB and PCMCIA cards?
[07:47] <ArrenLex> bashusr: uh, no. That'll just install the login screen, not gnome itself. You'll have to go "apt-get install gdm x-window-system-core xserver-xorg gnome"
[07:48] <bashusr> i'll stick with ubuntu-desktop :)
[07:48] <ArrenLex> mencoder -ovc lavc -oac lavc -lavcopts vbitrate=<videobitrate>:abitrate=<audiobitrate>:vhq <file.wmv> -o <outfile.avi>
[07:48] <oskude> bashusr: as good as they are open to developers...
[07:48] <Tokenbad> oskude, I mean , the drive was never partitioned...I formated it and made it ext3...and then started putting stuff on it...I wanted to take the free space and make that into a partition
[07:48] <Russel> hiho
[07:48] <oskude> Tokenbad: hmm, you can format without a partition...
[07:49] <Astrophix> Hi all..
[07:49] <bashusr> oskude: in other words... has linux hackers got support for things like the linksys usb adapter (WUSB54G)?
[07:49] <oskude> Tokenbad: *cant
[07:49] <mikeymike> ok i have a broadcom bcm4318 wifi card on eth1 (gateway laptop) how do i get it working
[07:49] <Russel> i want to set the $EDITOR to vim, how can i do it?
[07:49] <ArrenLex> export EDITOR=vim ?
[07:49] <ArrenLex> or vi? or whatever works?
[07:49] <oskude> bashusr: google, or the ubuntu hardware support page...
[07:49] <oskude> bashusr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:49] <Tokenbad> oskude, well not sure how to say it..but basicly qparted has taken all the free space I had...and did something with it...cause now I have no free space
[07:49] <micahcowan> Russel, what ArrenLex said. If you put that in your ~/.bashrc, it will execute that line every time you start.
[07:49] <Russel> i mean global forever
[07:49] <Russel> something systemwide?
[07:49] <buzzy-> !w32codecs
[07:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:50] <tox> !ompiz
[07:50] <dalfz> !openoffice
[07:50] <micahcowan> If you want to make a more global change, Russel, try "sudo update-alternatives --set editor /usr/bin/vim".
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ompiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".
[07:50] <tox> !compiz
[07:50] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:50] <ArrenLex> Russel: put EDITOR="vim" in /etc/environment
[07:50] <oskude> Tokenbad: well... then learn some (very) basic partitioning and do it manually with cfdisk
[07:50] <sharperguy> oskude, oh yea, im not useing dist-upgrade
[07:50] <Russel> thx i try it
[07:50] <Tokenbad> oskude, I can't now....the space is gone...unless someone knows a way to get it back
[07:50] <sharperguy> im using the gui
[07:51] <oskude> Tokenbad: how do you know its "gone" ?
[07:51] <pike_> Tokenbad: have you rebooted since then?
[07:51] <bashusr> thaks oskude
[07:51] <khaije1> whats the comparison between aiglx and xgl? i've seen people say aiglx is superior?
[07:51] <Astrophix> Couldn't find the following info: can I save changes (like installed software) to removable media and keep using the Ubuntu CD as a live CD? I'm 99% linux n00b, so please be gentle :-)
[07:51] <Tokenbad> oskude, cause...its saying the drive is full...and its not...it had like 35 gigs free before this...
[07:51] <Tokenbad> pike_, yes
[07:52] <oskude> Tokenbad: so if you look in cfdisk the partitions space and count them together, and comapre that to the harddisk size, youre missing like gigabytes ?
[07:52] <eracc> Hey, dudes, you do know you can open a private IRC session with the bot (ubotu) to test your database lookups first ...
[07:53] <heanol_> anyone know if its possible to install ubuntu with 2.6.18?
[07:53] <_stippi_> ArrenLex: ok thanks! can this be done with SWF files as well? I mean convert a flash movie into AVI?
[07:53] <mikeymike> anyone in here got dapper working with Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 ??
[07:53] <mikeymike> anyone able to point me to a howto or something ... a resource of info about making that wifi card work with dapper
[07:53] <efrancolaporte> hi i need help. i have the nvidia drivers installed and it used to load them at boot but now i dont know why it doesn't anymore and i have no 3d acceleration
[07:54] <pike_> Tokenbad: maybe fsck the partition?
[07:54] <Tokenbad> oskude, I can't seem to get cfdisk to read the disk
[07:54] <kmaynard> efrancolaporte: tried automatix?
[07:54] <oskude> Tokenbad: sudo cfdisk /dev/hdd
[07:54] <HeXiOn> hello
[07:54] <efrancolaporte> yes i installed them with atomatix
[07:54] <oskude> _stippi_: flash is not a video format...
[07:54] <efrancolaporte> i tried reinstalling them from the terminal but it says the newest version is already installed so it wont do anything
[07:54] <_stippi_> oskude: I know
[07:54] <HeXiOn> anyone knows a program to edit ISO files??? (just to delete some files to match a 650MB disc).. KIso crashes :S
[07:55] <Tokenbad> oskude, ok...its says 77gigs on one partition and like 2 gigs on another
[07:55] <oskude> Tokenbad: ok, so youre not missing any space...
[07:55] <Astrophix> Couldn't find the following info: can I save changes (like installed software) to removable media and keep using the Ubuntu CD as a live CD? I'm 99% linux n00b, so please be gentle :-)
[07:55] <Subhuman> HeXiOn, mount the iso and edit it then.
[07:55] <kmaynard> efrancolaporte: have you looked at your xorg.conf file to make sure the right driver is loaded?
[07:56] <Tokenbad> oskude, yes I am...the 35 gigs that was free...now its saying is used
[07:56] <Subhuman> !iso
[07:56] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, and when I umount it, changes are saved?
[07:56] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:56] <efrancolaporte> i am going to look now
[07:56] <Tokenbad> so that 35 gigs that was free I can't use now
[07:56] <oskude> Tokenbad: free space on a partition ? or free unpartitioned space ?
[07:56] <HeXiOn> thanks unotu & Subhuman
[07:57] <_stippi_> oskude: some flash movies are non interactive, why can't I convert those?
[07:57] <oskude> _stippi_: dunno, ask adobe!
[07:57] <efrancolaporte> i see in my xorg.conf:
[07:57] <efrancolaporte> Section "Device"
[07:57] <efrancolaporte>     Identifier     "NVIDIA Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] "
[07:57] <efrancolaporte>     Driver         "nvidia"
[07:57] <efrancolaporte> EndSection
[07:57] <_stippi_> oskude: don't try to preach to the converted
[07:57] <Subhuman> HeXiOn, ubotu is a bot
[07:57] <Subhuman> use !command
[07:57] <kmaynard> that should do it then
[07:57] <efrancolaporte> im not sure what its supposed to write
[07:57] <Subhuman> !ubotu
[07:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:58] <eracc> Tokenbad, from the "problem box" post the output of 'df -k' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ then give us the URL please.
[07:58] <oskude> _stippi_: maybe you should ask, why doesnt flash export movie ?
[07:58] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, oops!!! :D
[07:58] <_stippi_> there is an SWF gstreamer plugin, can this be useful to me?
[07:58] <heanol_> is edgy eft beta newer than knot 3?
[07:59] <oskude> heanol_: i think so
[07:59] <_stippi_> I mean, I thought gstreamer was supposed to be a frame work, but now I saw that some movies play in one gstreamer app and not in others.
[07:59] <kmaynard> efrancolaporte: check your log   /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:59] <_stippi_> I thought it is all interchangable...
[07:59] <Subhuman> heanol_, the beta is the newest.
[07:59] <kmaynard> or whatever your system names it...it's in /var/log
[07:59] <Subhuman> they will all update themselves to the same level anyway once installed.
[07:59] <oskude> _stippi_: maybe the other apps are not using that parts of gstreamer... but i have like no clue...
[08:00] <Subhuman> heanol_, any edgy chat should be in #ubuntu+1 however
[08:00] <heanol_> anyone know what kernel the beta has?
[08:00] <heanol_> ok
[08:00] <efrancolaporte> my terminal says permisson denied
[08:00] <Rahmiel> I'm trying to enable 3d acceleration with my nvidia geforce card, following the instructions in the help.. when I do nvidia-glx-config enable I get that it cannot due to my X configuration being altered.
[08:00] <kmaynard> try sudo
[08:00] <efrancolaporte> /var/log/Xorg.0.log says permission denied in my terminal, even as root
[08:01] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, it mounts as read only
[08:01] <HeXiOn> -rw maybe
[08:01] <pxlmdk> is ubuntu free to download?
[08:01] <HeXiOn> ?
[08:01] <eracc> Tokenbad, hmmm, maybe include the output of 'df -i' too.
[08:01] <sharperguy> pxlmdk, most definatly
[08:01] <eracc> Running out of inodes is as bad as running out of physical space.
[08:02] <kmaynard> efrancolaporte: ls -l /var/log | grep Xorg
[08:02] <pxlmdk> great. it is one of the easiest versions of linux right?
[08:02] <habeeb> Hello, I was messing arround with my mp3 player (deleting files and restoring etc) and now, I have an empty mp3, but with only 93MB space left. How can I completely restore it or something? Not a brand mp3, so there are no software available. Thanks!
[08:02] <sharperguy> yea
[08:02] <efrancolaporte> ok kmaynard, that gives me:
[08:02] <matt8806suomi> "Dynamic CPU throttle" can anyone help me?
[08:02] <pxlmdk> i have never run linux but 2003 is going to become out of date and i am not going to be running xp or vista.
[08:02] <efrancolaporte> shit i cant copy from terminal
[08:03] <Rookie> !ati
[08:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:03] <efrancolaporte> nevermind
[08:03] <efrancolaporte> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   47764 2006-10-04 13:43 Xorg.0.log
[08:03] <efrancolaporte> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   47764 2006-10-04 08:14 Xorg.0.log.old
[08:03] <efrancolaporte> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   47765 2006-10-02 21:23 Xorg.20.log
[08:03] <efrancolaporte> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   27479 2006-10-01 15:22 Xorg.20.log.old
[08:03] <eracc> pxlmdk, "easiest" is relative to one's experience. ;-)
[08:03] <efrancolaporte> thats what it gives me kmaynard
[08:03] <THX-1138> habeeb - restore a deleted mp3? "Penguin Sleuth Kit"
[08:03] <sharperguy> habeeb, try pressing ctrl+h and deleting the .trash-yourname folder
[08:03] <kmaynard> oh, the permission denied bit was from the log file itself
[08:03] <kmaynard> you were reading it
[08:03] <ubuntu_> hi all just did a update and i cant get xdesktop to load any way i can reupdate from there
[08:04] <efrancolaporte> yeah anyway what am i supposed to understand form that giberish :D
[08:04] <pxlmdk> lol eracc that makes sense but basically is it the best for noobs to linux?
[08:04] <ubuntu_> says i am missing i font .ttf file
[08:04] <Chucara> Can anyone help me install mplayer on dapper drake, tried a few FAQ/howto, but apt-get keeps saying that there is no package "mplayer"
[08:05] <eracc> pxlmdk, that is what I understand, yes. But I am no noob by a long shot so I can only tell you it works for me. ;-)
[08:05] <bashusr> Chucara: you got to add the universe binary location
[08:05] <matt8806suomi> i'm looking to setup/enable "Dynamic CPU throttle" can anyone help me please?
[08:05] <bashusr> Chucara: or something like that
[08:05] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: user (root) has read-write permissions, group (root) has read permissions, others have no permissions
[08:05] <Rahmiel> I follow the guide to setup my nvidia drivers, but I get the following:
[08:05] <Rahmiel> "Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[08:05] <Rahmiel> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[08:05] <Rahmiel> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[08:05] <Rahmiel> command:
[08:05] <Rahmiel> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[08:05] <Chousuke> s/user/owner
[08:05] <Rahmiel> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[08:05] <Rahmiel> from nv to nvidia."
[08:05] <THX-1138> ubuntu_ - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - to rid of the blues screen and an error about the xserver being disabled until reconfigured?
[08:05] <Rahmiel> Sorry for spam.
[08:05] <pxlmdk> ok eracc sounds good.
[08:05] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, it didn't work... mounts as read only and option -w is ignored
[08:06] <efrancolaporte> Chousuke I know that. my problem is that the nvidia drivers are not loading when I boot ubuntu I have no idea why because they USED to load
[08:06] <Subhuman> HeXiOn, are you trying to mount the ubuntu cd?
[08:06] <HeXiOn> yes
[08:06] <efrancolaporte> and they are still installed so it wont let me install them because they already are
[08:06] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, edgy beta
[08:06] <Subhuman> if so, its all compressed anyway, so you cant simply jus mount it, delete some stuff and close it again
[08:06] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: maybe yout kernel got upgraded and the drivers didn't.
[08:07] <ubuntu_> so what is the code..... sudo app-get??????
[08:07] <Subhuman> if you cant get a CD, get one shipped for free, or do a netinstall (assuming you have more than one pc on your network)
[08:07] <eracc> pxlmdk, if you learned your PC "skilz" on Micro$oft products you will still need to retrain yourself a bit. But if you use KDE or Gnome desktops you should find it very familiar. The real differences are "under the hood" and take longer to understand.
[08:07] <efrancolaporte> Chousuke.... i have no idea... how do i fix the situation??
[08:07] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: Did you install them from the nvidia package?
[08:07] <THX-1138> How do you enable the mount command from the live cd. - a notice on boot up says mount is not enabled. (safer?) - i need the mount command.
[08:07] <efrancolaporte> could i uninstall them and reinstall them?
[08:07] <pxlmdk> https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ <- free ubuntu cd :D
[08:07] <efrancolaporte> i installed them from Atomatix
[08:07] <we2by> any way to increase the performance of firefox? or alternative to firefox?
[08:07] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: hmmh
[08:07] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, it's to not waste a non-rewritable CD
[08:07] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: I don't know what automatix did
[08:07] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, I think I'll have to :)
[08:07] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: go ask on #automatix
[08:08] <pxlmdk> eracc i have only used M$ unfortunately. i am familiar with command lines at least tho.
[08:08] <HeXiOn> Subhuman, thanks for your help
[08:08] <Subhuman> yeah, a cd is like 5p these days anyway
[08:08] <Subhuman> no problem.
[08:08] <efrancolaporte> look its a ubuntu problem more than an atomatix one
[08:08] <afief> What are some good replacements for nautilus?
[08:08] <THX-1138> pxlmdk - The lack of viruses and malware is the reason to try linux. - flexible configurability will addict you.
[08:08] <eracc> pxlmdk, all I can say is try it. If you have a spare PC then that is the best way to go IMO.
[08:08] <efrancolaporte> i can install the drivers without atomatix if i know how to uninstall them in the 1st pace
[08:09] <efrancolaporte> but i dont know that either
[08:09] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: I don't know what automatix did, so I can't tell you how to undo it
[08:09] <pxlmdk> yah i am going to back up my system and try to install a dual boot
[08:09] <efrancolaporte> omfg
[08:09] <eracc> pxlmdk, the second best way to start is dual-boot on the same PC with a second drive.
[08:09] <efrancolaporte> why cant i just uninstall the package
[08:09] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: #ubuntu has (at least had) a policy of redirecting automatix users to #automatix
[08:09] <efrancolaporte> or something like thaty
[08:09] <Chucara> I've added about 2 pages worth of text to sources.list, yet I am still unable to find any mplayer or mplayer-586 packages?
[08:09] <THX-1138> pxlmdk - compare the adware filled "window blinds" to even the simplest of gnome themes. - nice
[08:10] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: well, you should be able to.
[08:10] <ax> anyone know how i can make it so that ldconfig looks in /usr/local/lib ?
[08:10] <pxlmdk> until i find a way to use photoshop in linux. maybe pixel will do.
[08:10] <Chousuke> efrancolaporte: but I can't guarantee it'll work
[08:10] <eracc> pxlmdk, yes, please DO backup first. ;-)
[08:10] <pxlmdk> eracc ok i will use a second drive thanks for the tip. :)
[08:10] <Chousuke> since automatix is not supported by Ubuntu :/
[08:10] <Chousuke> or #ubuntu, for that matter.
[08:10] <efrancolaporte> ok
[08:10] <wuming> compiz is broken now?
[08:10] <Ubuntu_Durban> need some help
[08:10] <pxlmdk> i have a 27 gig i can put in i just haven't bothered.
[08:10] <THX-1138> pxlmdk - have you taken a look at the codeweavers version of WINE?
[08:11] <ubuntu_> so what is the code to update and install ..... sudo app-get??????
[08:11] <efrancolaporte> theres noone in #atomatix
[08:11] <pxlmdk> no thx
[08:11] <Ubuntu_Durban> where do i go for help on chatzilla, I know it's off topic
[08:11] <sureshot> thx-1138 it that version better than cedega
[08:11] <efrancolaporte> come on i bet 2/3 of people here used atomatix themselves
[08:11] <eracc> pxlmdk, take a look at The GIMP for editing graphics. It is not Photo$hop but many graphics people I know like it.
[08:11] <sureshot> i did not
[08:11] <oskude> efrancolaporte: i doubt!
[08:11] <v3rt3x> my laptop hangs at the end of shutdown when I try to reboot it. It only does this after a suspend to memory. Anyone else experience this?
[08:11] <TubaSoldier> ubuntu_ the command is sudo apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[08:12] <Chimere> Anybody installed the last version of SDL on ubuntu (<IP_ADDRESS>)?
[08:12] <efrancolaporte> my problem started much later after i used atomatix..... it worked for at least 2 weeks
[08:12] <pxlmdk> THX-1138 wow nice didn't know about that.
[08:12] <jmitchj> can someone help me with setting up my Wireless connection?
[08:12] <efrancolaporte> i didnt run atomatix more than once, so it didnt do any changes before and after it was working
[08:12] <afief> wuming: they moved to beryl
[08:12] <eracc> pxlmdk, oh yes, THX-1138 mentioned WINE. That is another possibility to keep using your Photo$hop.
[08:12] <ubuntu_> ty for the help
[08:12] <sureshot> then you installed somthing that broke it and such and what i have been told that once you use automatix there is not going back with out a reinstall
[08:12] <wuming> afief:thx
[08:13] <efrancolaporte> ubuntu changed something while updating, most likely. atomatix never updated
[08:13] <afief> What are some good replacements for nautilus?
[08:13] <Chimere> Anybody installed the last version of LibSDL and LibSDL-Dev on ubuntu (<IP_ADDRESS>)?
[08:13] <oskude> afief: konqueror, some may say...
[08:13] <sureshot> THX-1138 it that version better than cedega
[08:14] <afief> oskude: i meant without all the overhead KDE packages
[08:14] <jmitchj>  can someone help me with setting up my Wireless connection?
[08:14] <TubaSoldier> midnight commander is one
[08:14] <TubaSoldier> to replace nautilus
[08:14] <Ubuntu_Durban> me is a pink bunny
[08:14] <oskude> afief: aha ...
[08:14] <eracc> IMO one should use Window$ app$ on Window$ and OSS apps on Linux. But some like to "shoehorn" Window$ stuff onto X so application layers like WINE exist. I try to avoid them.
[08:14] <Tokenbad> eracc, this is the df -k : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25679/
[08:15] <Peter77> hi, I installed ubuntu on my laptop a few days ago, will I need to download any special drivers for my hardware or does ubuntu already have everything I need?
[08:15] <Tokenbad> oskude, df -i : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25680/
[08:15] <afief> Eracc: sometimes it's not an option, and it would actually be nice to have all the windows software running on linux
[08:15] <kmaynard> efrancolaporte: what tipped you off the 3d was broken?
[08:16] <der0b> peter77: is everything working?
[08:16] <eracc> Egad, Tokenbad! Everything is under '/'?
[08:16] <Peter77> yes
[08:16] <efrancolaporte> yes
[08:16] <der0b> then you're all set :)
[08:16] <oskude> Tokenbad: what should i do with that ?
[08:16] <efrancolaporte> thats what tipping me off. windows are slower to drag, my screensavers dont work anymore and all my games are super slow
[08:16] <afief> TubaSoldier: will anybody blame me if i sell my soul to midnight commander? i'm in love:D
[08:16] <kmaynard> do you get the nvidia splash screen?
[08:17] <Peter77> apart from the intermitent battery level reading, I set the icon to always be displayed but when I don't get a reading it just displays a plug which when I hover over says "running off battery"
[08:17] <Rambo3_> how do i get my nickname  back somone is using it?
[08:17] <eracc> Tokenbad, hrm, you are definitely not out of either space nor out of inodes. Hmmmm.
[08:17] <TubaSoldier> afief, no. no one will blame you for anything
[08:17] <Chucara> Can anyone help me figure out why my mplayer playback is god awful? (divx)
[08:17] <oskude> afief: nope, in oss, you dont have to sell your soul
[08:17] <gean> hi all!
[08:17] <der0b> peter77: Linux and Win differ in that most of the hardware suppoert is built into the kernel.  You usually don't need to download drivers (unless you have funky hardware which has drivers being developed and isn't in the kernel yet)
[08:17] <TubaSoldier> lol, good one oskude
[08:17] <gean> !hdinstall
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdinstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <eracc> afief, heh, I'm an OSS bigot. What can I say? ;-)
[08:17] <afief> oskude: oh right:D i'm glad i quit windows before i did...
[08:17] <gean> !install
[08:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:17] <Chucara> By God awful, I mean: laggy, sound not playing on que with picutre
[08:18] <kmaynard> efrancolaporte: do you get the nvidia splash screen?
[08:18] <jvai> i'm glad i did too..lol
[08:18] <THX-1138> WINE, Cedega, Crossover Office, Virtual machines like vmware, kqemu - linux flexibility
[08:18] <efrancolaporte> no i dont. i used to, but not anymore.
[08:18] <Peter77> what could be causing the battery level to show before a reboot but not after?
[08:18] <afief> eracc: sure i'm trying to run as many OSS apps as i can:) but my dad can't use a PC that doesn't run his legacy software from 1995
[08:18] <efrancolaporte> not since i found out my drivers dont load anymore
[08:18] <Chucara> I notice that Xorg is eating away 60% CPU on mplayer playback.. I usually use 3% CPU total in windows to play divx.. ?!
[08:18] <oskude> afief: there are good dos emulators ;)
[08:19] <efrancolaporte> yet there still is NVIDIA Settings in my System Tools menu from the menu bar Applications
[08:19] <kmaynard> efrancolaporte: try uninstalling and reinstalling automatix...there was a new version out not long ago. also there was a new version of the nvidia driver released recently
[08:19] <THX-1138> FreeDOS
[08:19] <eracc> Now running a VM is something with which I agree. I actually run an instance of Window$ 98 in Bochs here. (Just because I can, I don't really use the thing ;-)
[08:19] <jmitchj> how do i gain access to an installed program that doesn't show up under Applications or "Open with"?
[08:19] <afief> oskude: it's a windows application he bought when windows 95 was released
[08:19] <efrancolaporte> k
[08:19] <kmaynard> jmitchj: what program?
[08:19] <mumbles-laptop> what the hell is it/.
[08:19] <jmitchj> mplayer32
[08:19] <afief> oskude: ignore that, mixed up the conversations:)
[08:19] <efrancolaporte> i dont run therisk of having "clones" of packages installed over each other?
[08:20] <efrancolaporte> i.e v 6.0 and v.6.01 installed at the same time?
[08:20] <kmaynard> jmitchj: there should be a frontend for that...cant think of the name right off hand tho
[08:20] <kmaynard> !mplayer
[08:20] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[08:20] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[08:20] <kmaynard> !mplayer-gui
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayer-gui - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <jtickle> is anyone here using Beagle and could tell me why it's not indexing applications?
[08:20] <kmaynard> !mplayer-gtk
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayer-gtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <oskude> kmaynard: gmplayer ?
[08:21] <kmaynard> oskude: bingo
[08:21] <kmaynard> !gmplayer
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <Peter77> der0b: what could cause the battery monitor not to show the battery level randomly after reboot or shut down?
[08:21] <domini1> salut
[08:21] <THX-1138> !info gmplayer
[08:21] <ubotu> Package gmplayer does not exist in any distro I know
[08:21] <TubaSoldier> does anybody use the gnome wallpaper-tray and actually have it working?
[08:21] <domini1> who speak french
[08:21] <der0b> peter77: I haven't the slightest idea.  sorry
[08:22] <eracc> !fr
[08:22] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:22] <oskude> kmaynard: apt-file search gmplayer : mplayer: usr/bin/gmplayer
[08:22] <kmaynard> well crap. i just install codecs thru automatix, not the players. most of my media is either in a browser or in totem
[08:22] <Peter77> der0b: hmm, I really need to fix that, the battery level use to show 100% of the time in suse 10
[08:22] <beowuff> I'm wondering what CLI mail clients people are using. I was going to use pine, but it doesn't appear to be in the repositories.
[08:22] <AAA> gmplayer is part of the mplayer-xxx pkg
[08:23] <kmaynard> gotcha
[08:23] <kmaynard> i still have a foot in gentoo i guess ;)
[08:23] <v3rt3x> I can suspend to mem fine and resume fine. But when I try to reboot after that, it hangs at the very end of the process and won't turn off.  Does this happen with /all/ applications or just one/some?
[08:23] <THX-1138> domini1 - You might also install a .py script to translate irc using irssi and bablefish
[08:23] <Chucara> Noone have any idea what causes xorg to jump to 60% and mplayer to 40% when starting mplayer on a freshly installed ubuntu?
[08:24] <kmaynard> weak system? :) jk
[08:24] <Tokenbad> eracc, i am not sure what other programs to use to see free space on that drive
[08:24] <Tokenbad> but gparted is saying its full
[08:24] <Chucara> It is, but I can run mplayer on windows without incident..
[08:24] <beowuff> oskude, cool, I think that'll work. thanks.
[08:25] <THX-1138> Tokenbad df and du in terminal??
[08:25] <oskude> Tokenbad: please do refer to unpartitioned free space if you mean that, free space would mean (for most of us) free unused space in a partition...
[08:25] <dark_light> Tokenbad, type df -h
[08:25] <der0b> chucara: have you tried some of the alternate output options?  maybe there's one that works better on your machine
[08:25] <iter> 2-0 oakland woooo
[08:25] <iter> whoops
[08:25] <buzzy-> !lame
[08:25] <dark_light> df -h shows free unused space in a partition..
[08:25] <iter> well, GO A's anyway ;)
[08:25] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[08:25] <Tokenbad> oskude, well I guess since it was one drive...the space was used..
[08:25] <Chucara> der0b: What do you mean?
[08:25] <Chucara> der0b: Alternate players, or?
[08:26] <Tokenbad> or should say space in a partitioned drive
[08:26] <der0b> chucara: you can switch output options using mplayer (the list is huge, you should check the man page)
[08:26] <habeeb> sharperguy: woah, great. But now only 500MB restored...
[08:26] <habeeb> sharperguy: I want MOAR!
[08:26] <efrancolaporte> hey i fixed the issue
[08:26] <Chucara> When playing, it says "Badly interleaved AVI file detected - switching to -mi mode" - Does that have an impact?
[08:26] <UKMatt> If I wanted to do something like create a 10 second .mpg or .avi (something that can be burned to a DVD) from scratch, what program should I use?
[08:26] <der0b> chucara: for instance, mplayer runs like poo on my machine until I set the -ao to esd
[08:26] <eracc> Tokenbad, if your drive has no unpartitioned space then as far as a partition editor (gparted) is concerned the drive /is/ full.
[08:26] <oskude> Tokenbad: and as i said, you need unpartitioned free space to make another partitions... (but some say you can resize existing partitions...)
[08:27] <Chucara> der0b: Ok, I'll experiment a little - thanks
[08:27] <efrancolaporte> for some reason my nvidia-settings.desktop file or whatever was empty no idea why. i pasted back the settings it should have and restarted the x server and now my driver loads
[08:27] <Tokenbad> dark_light, it says the drive is now only 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...so guess it was partitioned...but where
[08:27] <yellow> hey
[08:27] <efrancolaporte> thanks for all your help :-)
[08:27] <der0b> chucara: have fun, it can be time consuming but once you figure it out you're golden :)
[08:27] <afief> yellow, hi
[08:27] <efrancolaporte> i dont know why it was ampty though :| strange
[08:27] <jmitchj> kmaynard: Any luck with how to get to mplayer32
[08:28] <jmitchj> if i want to try and run a program for the Terminal ...what command do i use?
[08:28] <Subhuman> jmitchj, from the terminal?
[08:29] <dark_light> Tokenbad, where? who is saying that your have a 47gb drive? i didn't understand. if your drive has more than 47gb so maybe there are free unused space outside the partition. i am confused. :P
[08:29] <afief> jmitchj: usually the program's name
[08:29] <Subhuman> applicatyions-accesories-terminal
[08:29] <sharperguy> habeeb, terminal to youre folder and run "sudo rm -rf . " (this will delete everything in the folder so make sure its the right one)
[08:29] <jmitchj> yeah...i can't find it anywhere else....but it's installed
[08:29] <Subhuman> or ALT+F2 and tick run in terminal jmitchj
[08:29] <habeeb> sharperguy: ok
[08:29] <afief> jmitchj: which program?
[08:30] <jmitchj> mplayer32
[08:30] <Tokenbad> dark_light, the drive is 80 gig...that I tried to resize I guess...so could have 2 partitions on the drive...df -h says the hdd1 is only 47gigs with 15 gigs free...so the other partition should be some where
[08:30] <habeeb> sharperguy: $ sudo rm -rf .
[08:30] <habeeb> rm: cannot remove `.' or `..'
[08:30] <dfgas> anyone here use vmware player?
[08:30] <sharperguy> oh
[08:30] <afief> jmitchj: applications-> accesories -> terminal -> mplayer
[08:30] <der0b> dfgas: yes
[08:30] <sharperguy> try removing the .
[08:30] <dark_light> Tokenbad, no, there are a "free" space of 37gb that is outside partitions
[08:31] <dfgas> der0b, how do i get sound
[08:31] <sharperguy> or changing it to a *
[08:31] <Astrophix> Couldn't find the following info: can I save changes (like installed software) to removable media and keep using the Ubuntu CD as a live CD? I'm 99% linux n00b, so please be gentle :-)
[08:31] <dfgas> der0b, windows xp is the system i am running
[08:31] <jmitchj> i have an amd64 system....will that play mplayer32?...or the regular mplayer?
[08:31] <dark_light> 33*
[08:31] <appelza> Hi guys, I'm having trouble with exim, I installed it and its log shows :  Permission denied: creating lock file hitching post /var/mail/www-data.lock.prophecy.4523fd52.0000073c (euid=33 egid=8)
[08:31] <THX-1138> Tokenbad - How much of the 80g is disk manufacturer math 1g versus 1024mbs?
[08:31] <Subhuman> jmitchj, jus push ALT+F2 and type mplayer in the box
[08:31] <dark_light> Tokenbad, you have to create manually another partition with size 33gb, after your 47gb partition
[08:31] <appelza> What permissions should that have, and why isnt that done on install :|
[08:31] <der0b> dfgas: does the vm have your sound card mapped?
[08:31] <jmitchj> doesn;t work
[08:31] <dfgas> not sure
[08:32] <oskude> appelza: how did you start the program ?
[08:32] <dfgas> alls i know is it says something about direct sound when i try to play winamp
[08:32] <whadar> hello, it seems that my ubuntu lost its sound ability (after an update i think)... i turned on all kinds of volumes in the alsa mixer and still nothing...
[08:32] <sharperguy> Astrophix, I dont think so, I know knoppix lets you do it, but not ubuntu
[08:32] <habeeb> sharperguy: Did that, not really fixed. What are these . and .. folders?
[08:32] <der0b> dfgas: You need to make sure that in the setting of the virtual machine you have a sound card (and that sound card has to be working properly in linux if you want it to work on your vm)
[08:32] <appelza> oskude: it was started automaticly after installed it
[08:32] <Astrophix> Ok, that's what I needed to know, thanks :-)
[08:32] <highneko> !easyubuntu
[08:32] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:32] <StuartWSU> Has anyone ever heard of outbound tcp connections to other IPs with a remote port greater than 1024 be blocked?  I have a machine here that I can connect outside to 983/tcp however if I run a webserver on, say, 8080 on another machine, connecting to it is impossible.  tcpdump shows the packets seemingly leave the machine, however nothing is returned and there is no selinux policy that I can see that is affecting this.  Booting into windoze on th
[08:32] <StuartWSU> e same machine, same mac, same ip and the connection to 8080/tcp works fine.
[08:33] <alberto> Algum Fala Portugus ?
[08:33] <appelza> exim4 btw
[08:33] <habeeb> sharperguy: Didnt know these were actually hidden folders that could be shown with ls -a
[08:33] <kyja> can two partitions of linux installs dual booting share one swap ?
[08:33] <habeeb> Yeah, got that sharperguy
[08:33] <collier> whadar: GAIM didnt work for me
[08:33] <THX-1138> !pt
[08:33] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[08:33] <dfgas> der0b, yes
[08:33] <oskude> appelza: hmm, try "sudo /etc/init.d/exim4 restart" (or how its called)
[08:33] <appelza> just tell me what permsions your /var/mail has and ill chown or something :/
[08:33] <afief> subhuman: i don't think he compiled it himself. the default package comes with mplayer= CLI and gmplayer=GUI
[08:33] <alberto> Grato
[08:33] <Tokenbad> dark_light, how....how do I get that 37 gigs back
[08:33] <appelza> I have.
[08:33] <habeeb> !gr
[08:33] <ubotu> #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[08:33] <whadar> anyone else got that "no sound problem"... ?
[08:34] <jmitchj> afief: command not found
[08:34] <sharperguy> habeeb, u got the full amount of space now?
[08:34] <habeeb> sharperguy: moment.
[08:34] <afief> jmitchj: install gmplayer
[08:34] <oskude> appelza: drwxr-xr-x
[08:34] <dark_light> Tokenbad, create another partition, or resize again your partition/fs to have that space back
[08:34] <der0b> dfgas: you'll have to open it in your vmware application (workstation, server, whatever) to edit the settings.  you can't edit a vm with the player
[08:34] <habeeb> No dammit :( sharperguy ...
[08:34] <Focuz_> re
[08:34] <Focuz_> hello all!
[08:34] <habeeb> sharperguy: Still 680MB free
[08:34] <sharperguy> whats the max?
[08:34] <oskude> appelza: root:root
[08:34] <habeeb> sharperguy: 1000
[08:34] <afief> Tokenbad: use gparted, it works perfectly
[08:34] <StuartWSU> I just setup a webserver on a remote machine listening on 999/tcp.  I can connect to it no problem.  If I bind the remote webserver to 1000/tcp and try to connect - nothing.  Any idea why this would be blocked and where in the OS would it be blocked from?
[08:34] <manuvcube> where do i discuss security-related things about "edgy eft"?
[08:35] <sharperguy> habeeb, not sure why that is,
[08:35] <appelza> and ur exim works?
[08:35] <habeeb> sharperguy: I see :/
[08:35] <sharperguy> you might have to reformat it
[08:35] <habeeb> sharperguy: how?
[08:35] <sharperguy> I'm not sure whats the best way to do it
[08:35] <oskude> appelza: i dont have exim...
[08:35] <sharperguy> but ive used gparted in the past (a partition editor)
[08:36] <uppercuts> how do i get divx support
[08:36] <habeeb> Well, sharperguy that usb device is not on fstab. The mounted place is /mnt/<Some weird name>
[08:36] <afief> sharperguy: why not just resize and move partitions in gparted? it worked seamlessly for me
[08:36] <habeeb> sharperguy: no lies... /media/<Some weird name>
[08:36] <StuartWSU> I just setup a webserver on a remote machine listening on 999/tcp.  I can connect to it no problem from my ubuntu machine both using http://remote:999 and telnet remote 999.  If I bind the remote webserver to 1000/tcp and try to connect - nothing.  Any idea why this would be blocked and where in the OS would it be blocked from?
[08:37] <sureshot> how do i find out what version of glibc i have
[08:37] <sharperguy> afief, its for jsut reformatting a usb drive to one big partition
[08:37] <frojnd> hello there
[08:37] <plutarchos> I see in the ADSLPPPoE wiki that an ethernet card is, dare I say, required. There is no mention of using ADSL via a USB modem.
[08:37] <highneko> uppercuts: http://kb.gosi.at/6_11_en.html
[08:37] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: did you restart the webserver?
[08:37] <THX-1138> !dsl
[08:37] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[08:37] <sharperguy> habeeb, so its dosnt show up in gparted?
[08:37] <Zaggynl> I've got a bunch of avi files I want to make a dvd of, any nice software exists for that in Ubuntu?
[08:37] <highneko> uppercuts: Works for Kubuntu and Ubuntu.
[08:37] <plutarchos> THX-1138, did you read my remark? I'm using a USB ADSL modem.
[08:37] <afief> sharperguy: doesn't he need to repartition anyway? sorry didn't know it's a usb
[08:37] <habeeb> sharperguy: Installing gparted, moment. But well, not in fstab... Let me see what fstab will show.
[08:37] <frojnd> can someone help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25681/ (last 3 lines during the firefox32 installation - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+32)
[08:38] <Peter77> how easy is it to upgrade drake to edgy on a 250k line?
[08:38] <THX-1138> plutarchos  /msg ubotu !usb
[08:38] <plutarchos> `pppoeconf` furthermore wants modconf which is unavailable in ubuntu - someone needs to address this in the next release.
[08:38] <sharperguy> Peter77, as easy as anything else, it'll just take hours
[08:38] <sureshot> how do i find out what version of glibc i have
[08:38] <StuartWSU> aero: Yes, I bounced the remote webserver to make sure it was bound to 999/tcp and 1000/tcp respectively...  Also connected to the remote box via ssh and then did a telnet localhost to verify the web daemon was bound to the right ports.  however as I said, i go back to my local ubuntu box and try to connect with http://remote:999 or telnet remote 999 - works.  Same with with any port >=1000 and it drops the connection.
[08:39] <ker0uac> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop. How do I get into xwindows? startx and xconfig = command not found
[08:39] <sharperguy> Peter77, wait 250KB or Kb? (bits or bytes)
[08:39] <Peter77> sharperguy: is there a lot to upgrade (MBs)
[08:39] <it> yow
[08:39] <Peter77> 250 Kbits
[08:39] <THX-1138> putarchos - doesn't sound like the "It just works philosophy" - tried and rpm?
[08:39] <it> anyone who has like 5 minutes to answer my n00bquestions?
[08:39] <sharperguy> Peter77, youre on a clean install its about 700MB but theres more to upgrade the more you have
[08:39] <oskude> ker0uac: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:39] <habeeb> sharperguy: nothing on /dev/hdc which is my hd. But there is a /dev/sda which has a size of 235.33MB, which is (I think) the ammount of MB missing from the mp3.
[08:40] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: you can't telnet to port 1000 from localhost?
[08:40] <sharperguy> weird
[08:40] <Peter77> could edgy fix my battery monitor trouble?
[08:40] <oskude> !ask > it
[08:40] <hoss_bert> I managed to mess up my grub installation (described here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270736). I'd really appreciated if anyone could help
[08:40] <frojnd> can someone help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25681/ (last 3 lines during the firefox32 installation - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+32) ??
[08:40] <Peter77> also the live cd doesn't always monitor my battery levels
[08:40] <habeeb> Found it sharperguy ! /dev/sda1, is the usb!
[08:40] <ker0uac> oskude: command not found
[08:40] <plutarchos> THX-1138, which RPM? What I need is a wiki on adsl which focuses on users of USB modems.
[08:40] <sharperguy> habeeb, nothing on /dev/hdc thats not good
[08:41] <habeeb> sharperguy: /dev/sda1 on /media/SGTL MSCN type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[08:41] <ker0uac> oskude: is there something I need to download?
[08:41] <oskude> ker0uac: whan ubuntu did you install ?
[08:41] <edgy> Hi, I installed edgy as chroot in dapper and when I try to play fgfs I got:
[08:41] <edgy> Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-8762, but
[08:41] <edgy> this client has the version 1.0-8774.  Please make sure that the kernel
[08:41] <edgy> module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[08:41] <ker0uac> oskude: I think it was the desktop.  IS there any way for me to verify?
[08:41] <THX-1138> plutarchos - grab mdconf? and install alien to translate the package. -It doesn't sound likeany fun.
[08:41] <oskude> ker0uac: you didnt write anything on the cd ?
[08:41] <ker0uac> oskude: no
[08:42] <jazzrocker> ok, i just read and followed the instructions in this guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server and now i successfully have vmware-server connected to samba on my localhost. how do i add shares? where do i add them?
[08:42] <habeeb> So, I just have to format /dev/sda1, amirite sharperguy ?
[08:42] <ker0uac> how do I start xwindows? DO I first need to check to see whether it was installed?
[08:42] <sharperguy> yea
[08:42] <habeeb> sharperguy: how can I do this? ^_^
[08:42] <plutarchos> THX-1138, all Greek to me mate. I fail to believe there isn't some simple approach 'wifi-fied' somewhere detailign the steps needed.
[08:42] <jazzrocker> ker0uac, usually one of 'startx' or just 'X'
[08:42] <Peter77> hehe I used gparted before to re-partition my HDD
[08:42] <StuartWSU> aero: i cant connect to http://remote:1000 (or greater than 1000) or telnet to remote 1000 (or greater than 1000) from my ubuntu box.   if i have a service on the remote host using a port < 1000, it works fine.
[08:42] <oskude> ker0uac: hmm... good question, but i think _you_ should know which cd image you used...
[08:42] <Peter77> Open Source rules
[08:42] <jazzrocker> ker0uac, startx is usually a script to determine how to run 'X' iirc
[08:42] <sureshot> sorry all if you answered my question i was distracted helping my wife but how do i tell what version of glibc i have
[08:43] <THX-1138>  live cd. - a notice on boot up says mount is not enabled. (safer?) - i need the mount command.
[08:43] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: and did you try connecting to the port from the machine the server is running on?
[08:43] <it2> hi
[08:43] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: when it's listening on port 1000 can you connect from the same machine?
[08:43] <StuartWSU> aero: i.e. loopback while on the remote host to make sure the server is running? yes.
[08:43] <it2> my damn windows opera browser crashed
[08:43] <sharperguy> habeeb, like i said, i dont know the best way, but on gparted you just delete all partitions drom that drive, and make one big one (probably with fat32)
[08:43] <starz> im having problems changing the the premissions or some files on a harddrive while booting from a live cd. it just wont let me do it
[08:43] <it2> anywayz, i'm here to get rid of it :p
[08:43] <habeeb> How can I format an external usb drive? The /dev file is /dev/sda1
[08:43] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: what do you see when you type "iptables -L" ?
[08:44] <habeeb> Ok thanks, sharperguy . I'll ask for moar info in the channel, thanks!
[08:44] <pike_> habeeb: mkfs.msdos /dev/sda1 for fat32
[08:44] <ker0uac> oskude: hmm, I just did sudo apt-get insall gdm
[08:44] <ker0uac> oskude: is there anything more I'll need to do?
[08:44] <habeeb> That will erase the existing data, and will restore the mp3 player in its starting "form"?
[08:44] <fuoco> can i use telepathy on dapper to have voip with google talk ?
[08:44] <sureshot> how do i find out what version of glibc i have
[08:45] <oskude> ker0uac: how should i know if i dont even know what you allready have ?
[08:45] <habeeb> That will erase the existing data, and will restore the mp3 player in its starting "form"? pike_
[08:45] <THX-1138> it2 - Opera for linux doesn't run the way you want it to? - Opera is in the commercial non-free repository. 2 packages opera and libqt3-mt
[08:45] <frojnd> ok I am desperated (going to jump from roof :(
[08:45] <frojnd> can someone help me install firefox
[08:45] <pike_> habeeb: you might want to check and make sure there are not files or dir the player needs on there but yes
[08:45] <buzzy-> !mplayer
[08:45] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[08:45] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[08:45] <it2> i have this problem: i have a 80 gig hd that i use(d) as a data disk for windows, i partitioned it, and wanted to install ubuntu on an empty partition, now ubuntu has formatted the drive, and installed itself on the entire drive instead of just one partition, how can i make sure this won't happen again?
[08:45] <oskude> frojnd: sudo apt-get install firefox
[08:46] <marcrosoft> Hi, im trying to install vmware-player on ubuntu LTS, kernel: 2.6.15-27-k7, and it cannot seem to open vmmon or the vmnet... i think it has something to do with the kernel version, is there a way to fix this?
[08:46] <frojnd> well..
[08:46] <StuartWSU> aero: on the local box? Nothing..   Its disabled - no rulesets defined.
[08:46] <frojnd> oskude I don't wanna get 64bit
[08:46] <THX-1138> buzzy - Hi,How are things going today?       !<item> > <nickname>
[08:46] <frojnd> oskude: I tryed to install 32 bit
[08:46] <kmaynard> jmitchj: sorry, went afk for a few... try  gmplayer from the terminal. are you trying to manually play a file?
[08:46] <frojnd> with this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+32
[08:46] <oskude> frojnd: youre on 64bit ubuntu and want 32bit firefox ?
[08:46] <it2> anyone?
[08:46] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: which os are you using to connect?
[08:46] <sureshot> how do i find out what version of glibc i have
[08:47] <frojnd> oskude: 64bit kubuntu and yes
[08:47] <matt8806suomi> i'm looking for help with a telewell tw-ea200 that i have connected to my ubuntu desktop via usb, i need drivers, maybe or just help configuring it.   The telewell tw-ea200, is a usb ADSL modem
[08:47] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: you already tried telnet form the remote machine, right?
[08:47] <yellow> it2:  when u install
[08:47] <frojnd> oskude: I wanna get 32bit firefox
[08:47] <oskude> sureshot: if its libc6, check the version of that
[08:47] <_eckobar_> hello everybody
[08:47] <yellow> make sure
[08:47] <frojnd> check the link aboce..
[08:47] <oskude> frojnd: ok, no idea :)
[08:47] <frojnd> above*
[08:47] <yellow> u select manual partitioning
[08:47] <THX-1138> it2 - there is an option the 4th in list to define partitions - you need / amd /swap
[08:47] <frojnd> anyone herd for this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=firefox+32
[08:47] <it2> ok
[08:47] <it2> thx
[08:47] <yellow> yes it2 listen to Thx
[08:47] <sureshot> oskude i need the syntax on how to find out .. what version comes with dapper
[08:48] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: if you want i can try to connect to the host... to rule out that it's your client machine that is the problem
[08:48] <oskude> sureshot: manyways... apt-cache show libc6
[08:48] <it2> so i need to allocate 1 partition for the swap, the other for /ald, right?
[08:48] <oskude> sureshot: dpkg -l | grep libc6
[08:48] <buzzy-> is there any cpu monitor in ubuntu?
[08:48] <pike_> buzzy-: top :)
[08:48] <Neo8750> habeeb: top ??
[08:49] <Neo8750> hmm where did the habeeb come from
[08:49] <buzzy-> ok
[08:49] <StuartWSU> aero: Yes.....  My local machine = ubuntu.  If I connect to my REMOTE machine via ssh - its fine.  when i login to the remote machine and telnet localhost 1000 the server comes up.... if i break the ssh connection and am thus returned back to my ubuntu box and then try to connect to remote on 1000, it hangs.
[08:49] <THX-1138> buzzy - yes in in administration or top or ps -e in the terminal
[08:49] <UKMatt> hey, I'm trying to convert something like a slide show into a a 10 second movie... or even create something from scratch in a program and don't know how to do it in ubuntu
[08:49] <pike_> in fluxbox i use wmcpu or wmcpuload
[08:49] <_eckobar_> problem: want to install compiz, followed steps in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz but when i want to make apt-get install cms compiz compiz-gnome getting following output from apt: package not installable ... package destroyed (translated from german to englisch from the scratch...real english output differ.) can anybody help me??
[08:49] <buzzy-> !fortran
[08:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fortran - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:49] <kopermine> Hi guys who wants to help a beginner?
[08:50] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: on which ip is the webserver listening?
[08:50] <Zaggynl> kopermine, what's up
[08:50] <Neo8750> kopermine: depends on what you need help with
[08:50] <StuartWSU> aero: you wont be able to get to it
[08:50] <sureshot> oskude thanks i am new at this so i am trying just needed that info for anoter instalation
[08:50] <oskude> UKMatt: hmm, dunno if openoffice can export video, but would be cool...
[08:50] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: you can see it with "netstat -anp | grep 1000" or grep apache
[08:50] <kopermine> I need to access my HD from the ubuntu live cd
[08:50] <oskude> sureshot: np
[08:50] <UKMatt> oskude, well by slideshow all i mean is that its a short basic movie, nothing complex
[08:50] <kopermine> for some reason it only sees my usb hd
[08:50] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: maybe it is only listening on a local ip
[08:50] <it2> ow, now i restarted windows, and i have 1 partition left, it's an empty drive, shoul i partition it in windows or in ubuntu now?
[08:51] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: ok sry.. then it wouldnt work on port 999
[08:51] <StuartWSU> aero: nope because if i take my local ubuntu machine and boot it into windows it works fine. (dual boot)
[08:51] <oskude> UKMatt: hmm, never wanted to do that, but im sure there are tools, atleast for commandline...
[08:51] <StuartWSU> aero: Thats the thing - it does though
[08:51] <jmitchj> Can someone help me with setting up a wireless connection?
[08:51] <UKMatt> oskude, i've been looking and can't find anything
[08:51] <TyggerBob> Hey all. wonder if anyone has any ideas as to what's going wrong for me.  I have an SMC 2532w pcmcia wireless card that doesn't get loaded properly.. I want to use hostap vice orinoco, which seems to be the default.  the hostap module builds fine and, as long as it's the first time after a kernel rebuild, it works fine, but the next time, it won't work .  If I do an iwconfig, it shows the wifi0, but hangs for a bit and then doesn't show
[08:51] <TyggerBob> the wlan0.  I've scoured the net for ideas, but if someone here has any, I'd love to hear them.  Thanks in advance.
[08:52] <dfgas> der0b, nothing shows up in windows for device
[08:52] <oskude> UKMatt: mencoder and transcode (and many other terminal tools) can do videos from images
[08:52] <ker0uac> I just downloaded and installed gdm
[08:52] <ker0uac> xconfig doesn't work
[08:52] <ker0uac> neither does startx
[08:52] <ker0uac> is there something I am missing?
[08:52] <oskude> ker0uac: install "ubuntu-desktop"
[08:52] <THX-1138> jmitchj: Did the GUI Aystem .. Admin .. networking configure it?
[08:52] <UKMatt> oskude, hmm well what about this, looking through open office it says I can export as .swf, can that be saved onto and played on a DVD?
[08:53] <oskude> UKMatt: not as dvd video
[08:53] <oskude> UKMatt: so you want to do dvd video ?
[08:53] <ker0uac> oskude: is that the whole cd?
[08:53] <jmitchj> it says activated, but i can;t access
[08:54] <oskude> ker0uac: what cd ?
[08:54] <UKMatt> oskude, I want to create a short... like 2 picture w/ transition clip and burn it to a dvd
[08:54] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: dont know what the problem is, maybe iptables rules on your client machine? i'd try port forwarding... to redirect port 1000 to port 999 or something =)
[08:54] <oskude> UKMatt: and be able to play that wiht a regular dvd player ?
[08:54] <UKMatt> oskude, yeah
[08:54] <orn> Hi. Is there a tool to detect the settings of a new monitor in ubuntu?
[08:54] <oskude> UKMatt: i think transcode and mencoder can do that too, there are even tools to make dvd (video) menus...
[08:55] <jmitchj> THX-1138: as soon as i close The network settings window and come back it;s deactivated again
[08:55] <THX-1138> UKMatt - Take a peek at mplayer or mencoder. - Will those do?
[08:55] <kopermine> any idea guys? my xp crashed and trying to restore some files through ubuntu
[08:55] <bluefox83> how do you get your computer's ip from terminal while behind a router?
[08:55] <UKMatt> don't know anything about mencoder, limme look
[08:55] <aeroSoul> StuartWSU: maybe another service listening on port 1000?
[08:55] <bluefox83> ifconfig is returning the ip the router dishes out
[08:55] <pike_> kopermine: sudo fdisk -l"
[08:55] <oskude> bluefox83: ifconfig
[08:56] <THX-1138> jmitchij - Ok, i am a bit new but can help you gather more info. sudo lspci    sudo lsmod
[08:56] <oskude> bluefox83: you wanted the ip of your computer
[08:56] <pike_> kopermine: without the "
[08:56] <Vornotron> okay.  automated CD burning requires that I use cdrecord.  (is this a correct statement?  or is there a wrapper that handles things for me?)  I've got a cdrecord HOWTO from http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html , but it's six years old, mentions considerable voodoo, and I can't tell how much of it would be done for me in a modern distribution.  So question is:  how much easier is it to burn CDs now than it was then?
[08:56] <UKMatt> thx-1138, oskude, does mencoder have a GUI?  I have the package installed (probably for tovid)
[08:56] <jstarcher> how do I get the size of a directory? Like read the size of everything inside from command line?
[08:56] <oskude> UKMatt: dunno, but i doubt
[08:57] <bluefox83> oskude, somehow an ip starting with 172 does nto sound like a real internet ip
[08:57] <habeeb> Hmm, who told me the way to format that usb mp3 player? I think I just screwed it up ^_^
[08:57] <oskude> bluefox83: 172 ? hmm...
[08:57] <anon32> whoa, traffic prioritization is sweet!
[08:57] <THX-1138> UKMatt - I have only played with it. - not familiar with tovid.
[08:57] <bluefox83> oskude, yes..as in a router's defined ip
[08:58] <pike_> kopermine: if the drive or partition shows up it will be something like /dev/hda1 you would mount it like sudo mkdir /media/hda1 && sudo mount -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[08:58] <caseyomah> How do I make wine start Windows Executables when I double-click?
[08:58] <jmitchj> THX-1138: What do i do with all that info?
[08:58] <THX-1138> anon32 - conntrack - nerdy fun rofl
[08:58] <bluefox83> oskude, my freind needs me to ssh into his machine and fix his X config, but we can't get his real ip
[08:58] <oskude> bluefox83: on default, (mostly) you get a 192.168.x.x ip from routers dhcp
[08:58] <habeeb> pike_: Well, have a few problems... The device is still recognised by the PC. But, it doesnt show the menus etc...
[08:58] <vanisher> bluefox83: www.whatismyip.com
[08:58] <bluefox83> vanisher, from TERMINAL
[08:59] <habeeb> pike_: It just shows the "splash screen" when you open the mp3 player, and then nothing.. It stucks there.
[08:59] <oskude> bluefox83: there you need the ip of the friends router, not the computers ip...
[08:59] <bluefox83> as in no X, no way to use a browser
[08:59] <kopermine> pike_:then i still don't see the partitions from ubuntu
[08:59] <TyggerBob> guess no one has any ideas, eh?
[08:59] <TyggerBob> Thanks anyway.
[08:59] <kopermine> pike_:suspect a corrupt hybernate file
[08:59] <vanisher> lynx www.whatismyip.com
[08:59] <oskude> bluefox83: there are web browsers allso for terminal...
[08:59] <aeroSoul> bluefox83: he could use bitchx and come to irc... there you see his ip =)
[08:59] <caseyomah> bluefox83: lynx.
[08:59] <jstarcher> how do I get the size of a directory? Like read the size of everything inside from command line?
[08:59] <pike_> habeeb: try mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[09:00] <bluefox83> aeroSoul, he's in irssi and i still get the wrong ip
[09:00] <oskude> jstarcher: du
[09:00] <THX-1138> jmitchj - copy and paste wifi info to a note. paste the note to pastebin most here know a lot more than i.
[09:00] <bluefox83> so what.. lynx www.whatismyip.com?
[09:00] <anon32> jstarcher try ls -l
[09:00] <habeeb> And now pike_ ?
[09:00] <oskude> jstarcher: "du -h" to make it "human" readable
[09:00] <habeeb> pike_: $ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb
[09:00] <habeeb> mount: /dev/sda1: can't read superblock
[09:00] <krazykit> i can't kill this process... i've done kill -9 as root, too...
[09:00] <caseyomah> bluefox83: Yep.
[09:00] <Justm3> hey, plz help me with this stuff:
[09:00] <Justm3> I got the cds of Ubuntu today so i booted from the cd. I tried Ubuntu then decided to install it.
[09:00] <Justm3> When i reached the Partition Step (Step 5), i was confused . I selected manually edit partition table.
[09:00] <Justm3> 1. I want to install Ubuntu on the last partition (sda7) it is 20GB Fat32, is this fine for the installation?
[09:00] <Justm3> 2. I can resize that partition so that i can get 500 MB for swap partition, but what i want to know is how do i select it to be a swap partition (do i select "linux-swap" in the filesystem dropdown)?
[09:00] <Justm3> 3. Why is it showing the first partition (sda1) as the a boot lba (and what does boot lba mean?), would it affect my Win XP installation?
[09:00] <THX-1138> jmitchj > !paste
[09:00] <Justm3> 4. Ok, then i move on to the next step.
[09:01] <Justm3> Where every partition is set as "/media/sda#"
[09:01] <Justm3> should i change "/media/sda7" to "/"?
[09:01] <oskude> !enter
[09:01] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:01] <Justm3> 5. When selecting the swap partition in the same step as above, should i select the swap partition as "/swap"?
[09:01] <oskude> !paste
[09:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:01] <Vornotron> (also I'm having trouble with screen resolution, but I haven't gotten around to looking up the documentation for that job)
[09:01] <jmitchj> !paste
[09:01] <caseyomah> bluefox83: If that doesn't work you can apt-get install lynx
[09:01] <jstarcher> oskude, du? heh never heard of that before, thanks, I'll give it a shot!
[09:01] <plutarchos> What's the quickest way to find VP/VC values for an ADSL connection?
[09:01] <pike_> habeeb: hmm try unplugging it and turing it off /on
[09:01] <jstarcher> anon32, yeah that will show the files size but not directory sizes :-(
[09:01] <SeanTater> !paste > Justm3
[09:01] <vanisher> bluefox83 lynx is a text based browser
[09:02] <oskude> jstarcher: "man du" > "du - estimate file space usage"
[09:02] <jstarcher> ls
[09:02] <bluefox83> vanisher, yes yes..i know
[09:02] <Justm3> thx ubotu
[09:03] <jmitchj> so once i paste it...then what?
[09:03] <THX-1138> plutarchos - This is rough. It will get easier. - What is VP/VC?  - will netstat or ifconfig help?
[09:03] <benaocaz_> soi el ligon y estoy falde
[09:03] <vanisher> jmitchj: patste the link here
[09:03] <benaocaz_> qien se atreve
[09:03] <jstarcher> oskude, whoa, that just throws out a size of all the files inside it. I want to know the total size of everything within a specific directory. I'll read the man real quick to see if I can do that with du
[09:04] <habeeb> pike_: nothing..  I have the Gnome desktop, and I think it's related to XGL. Can somebody help?
[09:05] <pike_> habeeb: what kind of mp3 player?
[09:05] <smyru> Hi, can I build a *.deb binary from an installed package? I mean I have f.e. zip installed in the system, and I want to package it to .deb. A reverse action to installing from .deb. Is there any tool to do that?
[09:05] <oskude> jstarcher: but you can use "-hs" to show only that last entry
[09:05] <kopermine> pike_: any ideas left?
[09:05] <habeeb> pike_: an unknown one, from a local company. It was acting entirely as an external hard drive, because I started screwing up..
[09:06] <jstarcher> oskude, yeah it does show the directories but there are a lot of files and it's hard to find them all with so much outputting
[09:06] <habeeb> Actually pike_ , before that format command you gave me, I could enter songs, I just had 400MB of unused space wasted, without a reason.
[09:06] <pike_> kopermine: sorry
[09:06] <habeeb> pike_: (not blaming you of course.)
[09:06] <jmitchj> now wait for someone to look at it?
[09:06] <oskude> jstarcher: you did want to know how much a dir is using space ?
[09:07] <jstarcher> oskude, yea
[09:07] <oskude> jstarcher: so wheres the problem ?
[09:07] <jstarcher> oskude, It's just showing me too much lol, I want to see just the directorys on the screen
[09:07] <vanisher> jmitchj: indeed ;-) what is your problem, paste that together with the link
[09:07] <jstarcher> ahhh I got it
[09:07] <jstarcher> it shows it right
[09:07] <benaocaz_> qie qiere ligar desde benaocaz
[09:08] <jeevesbond> Hello, am attempting to compile Wine from source (in Edgy), but it always segfaults due to this bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/56965 (which neither party seem willing to fix). To workaround the bug I need to add '-fno-stack-protector' to my CFLAGS. Where are CFLAGS defined? In Gentoo they seem to be stored in /etc/make.conf, but in the Ubuntu Edgy environment that file does not exist?!
[09:08] <jstarcher> pike_, thanks, worked great
[09:08] <jmitchj> I can;t get my Wireless to work on my laptop...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25682/
[09:08] <jstarcher> oskude, thanks for the help, I appreciate ti
[09:08] <habeeb> pike_: any ideas? :/
[09:09] <oskude> jeevesbond: i assume those are normal environment variables, so you set them like in the terminal
[09:09] <oskude> jeevesbond: see "./configure --help"
[09:09] <jeevesbond> Ahhh, ok great! Thanks for the help oskude!
[09:10] <pike_> habeeb: format should be fat32 you might try formatting it in windows..
[09:10] <oskude> jeevesbond: or you can manually add them to the "Makefile"
[09:10] <habeeb> pike_: which I dont have... I cant format it in Linux? And the menus etc, will be restored? :/
[09:11] <jeevesbond> Hmmm, I think Wine has piles of makefiles... :D
[09:11] <pike_> habeeb: you should be able to yes
[09:11] <habeeb> pike_: 22:11 < pike_> habeeb: you should be able to yes
[09:11] <THX-1138> jeevesbond - vitamin #winehq is an encyclopedia.
[09:11] <habeeb> oops :P
[09:11] <habeeb> pike_: what about: " mkfs.msdos -F 32 /dev/xxx"
[09:11] <jstarcher> oskude and pike_, fyi the "-s" argument was what I wanted
[09:12] <jstarcher> just a summary :-P
[09:12] <pike_> habeeb: there wasnt any other files in that partition  before you formatted?
[09:12] <oskude> jstarcher: did i say that ? ;)
[09:12] <jeevesbond> Oh, I see. But there is one overriding one. Thanks guys
[09:12] <habeeb> pike_: I couldnt check it out. But well, the /media/usb which was mounted on, was completely empty.
[09:12] <pike_> habeeb: you could try that depending on the player
[09:13] <pike_> habeeb: wont hurt anything :)
[09:13] <jstarcher> oskude, ohahha I missed that message, sorry
[09:14] <cipher_nemo> How do I logout and close X in ubuntu?
[09:14] <habeeb> Tried fat32 with that command I gave you pike_ , still endless splash screen and nothing more...
[09:14] <vanisher> ctrl-backspace? ;-)
[09:14] <habeeb> btw, I cant mount it... Because of "bad superblock" any ideas?
[09:14] <ChickenTalons> habeeb = your HD is going back to allah
[09:14] <pike_> habeeb: try taking battery out and replacing
[09:15] <dredhammer> hello all does gnomebaker 0.6.0 have overburn options in it? Went to the support forums and saw this screenshot http://static.flickr.com/30/91544734_53c7c99d90_o.png
[09:15] <habeeb> ChickenTalons: What do you mean, sir?
[09:15] <jstarcher> you know how when you do "cd .." it brings you up a directory? Is there a way to go up two or three at a time?
[09:15] <dredhammer> but when i compiled the latest version i don't have the overburn option
[09:15] <cipher_nemo> How do I logout and --close-- X in ubuntu?
[09:16] <pike_> jstarcher: cd ../ for back one or ../../ for two etc
[09:16] <ChickenTalons> habeeb, cmon man, that couldnt be that hard to understand.
[09:16] <oskude> Llewxam: what happens when you run "sudo /etc/init.d/hdm restart" ?
[09:16] <vanisher> jstarcher: cd .. cd ../..
[09:16] <oskude> Llewxam: what happens when you run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" ? (sorry typo)
[09:16] <jstarcher> nice, thanks guys!
[09:16] <Llewxam> oskude: the same thing that always happens. after hte login page i get a black screen.
[09:16] <jstarcher> linux is sooo nice
[09:16] <habeeb> ChickenTalons: Actually, what HD are you talking about? :/
[09:16] <jstarcher> screw windows forever
[09:17] <jmitchj> Is anyone able to help me activate my wireless connection on my laptop?...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25682/
[09:17] <vanisher> jstarcher: sorry mate MS flightsim is not running yet ;-)
[09:17] <Hizer> Anyone know of any good free web hosting that support MySQL and Php?
[09:17] <oskude> Llewxam: do you see any errors with "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE"
[09:17] <ChickenTalons> habeeb, the one with the bad superblock.  A little door and an arrow
[09:18] <Paddy_EIRE> cipher_nemo: either use the quit button on the top panel far left, or System > Quit
[09:19] <pike_> jmitchj: have you tried sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`   yet? the `` arent quotes
[09:19] <cipher_nemo> jeevesbond: but this will just get me back to a login screen for gnome/X... I want command line
[09:19] <habeeb> ChickenTalons: I'm in a quite sensitive situation right now, no religious things at this moment, please :P
[09:19] <Llewxam> to make it simple it says i got an error in locking new authority, fatal server error: server is already active for display 0
[09:19] <[Silver> Test
[09:19] <jeevesbond> You can go down a runlevel or two using the 'init' command
[09:20] <habeeb> What is the superblock error btw ChickenTalons ?
[09:20] <oskude> Llewxam: hmm, do you have kdm/kde running ? (or even xdm)
[09:20] <Tokenbad> I forgot who I was talking to about the drive problem...plumber showed up and had to go deal with that
[09:20] <jonah1980> hi can anyone help me upload a file with gftp, it'll only let me access the site with the http protocol, but won't let me upload anything, but i can download
[09:20] <jeevesbond> Or if you want to leave X running in the background press: ctrl-alt-F2
[09:20] <Llewxam> oskude: none of the above. only gnome.
[09:20] <jeevesbond> Or ctrl-alt-F3
[09:20] <Tokenbad> oskude, and pike_ I know was helping but not sure whoelse
[09:20] <Tokenbad> but back to my problem...
[09:20] <jeevesbond> And so on...
[09:20] <vanisher> cipher_nemo: ctrl-backspace?
[09:21] <Tokenbad> I ran fsck on the drive...it fixed part of the space problem that gparted did...but need to find a way to get the rest of the space back
[09:21] <oskude> Llewxam: well, something is running allready if xauth says... or is that maybe an old message ?
[09:21] <habeeb> pike_: If I return it back (its on guarantee) will they be able to restore it?
[09:22] <Llewxam> it's what i got after typing startx, and it's the same message i get.
[09:22] <pike_> habeeb: if you do that admit nothing :)
[09:22] <oskude> Llewxam: you should not use startx!
[09:22] <pike_> habeeb: it just doesnt work you dont know why.  whats a linux? etc
[09:22] <jmitchj> pike: I hadn;t tried that, but am trying now
[09:22] <jeevesbond> vanisher: Seems he might have pressed some of those buttons we told him about... Waits for 'Connetion reset by peer' message :)
[09:22] <habeeb> haha
[09:22] <habeeb> Ok pike_
[09:22] <sharperguy> gdm
[09:22] <Tokenbad> oskude, any idea where I can find the space that it is saying is used even though its not?
[09:23] <vanisher> jeevesbond: yess, guess he managed to get to the cli
[09:23] <jmitchj> pike: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic is already the newest version.
[09:23] <jmitchj> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:23] <bluefox83> doesn't X create a file someplace when it starts up X to prevent multiple X sessions from being started?
[09:23] <habeeb> That evil uncle screwed it up, pike_  >:
[09:23] <Llewxam> >.<' k... well i just want to fix this.
[09:23] <[SBM] Hizer> www.freewebs.com/silverbulletmonks
[09:23] <oskude> Tokenbad: the last time you said cfdisk has a 77gb partition and a 2gb partitions, so that makes 80gb...
[09:23] <[SBM] Hizer> What do you think of that layout?
[09:23] <harisund_> has anybody successfully Yahoo! music videos in Ubuntu? What have they used?
[09:23] <ubuntu__> hi guys
[09:23] <jstarcher> whats up
[09:23] <stealth_> hey guys, I just installed kubuntu edgy. Turns out I don't like KDE as much as Gnome. Is there a way to replace kubuntu with ubuntu w/o reinstalling?
[09:23] <vanisher> [SMB] Hizer, way to dar
[09:23] <vanisher> dark
[09:24] <jstarcher> stealth_ iirc there is
[09:24] <ubuntu__> stealth_,  i think u can
[09:24] <habeeb> pike_: so that, "superblock" error, is not fixable?
[09:24] <ubuntu__> stealth_,  look in adept
[09:24] <heanol_> question..
[09:24] <ubuntu__> for ubuntu-desktop
[09:24] <jmitchj> pike_: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic is already the newest version.
[09:24] <jmitchj> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[09:24] <oskude> Llewxam: i would recommend restarting the pc and looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues
[09:24] <dredhammer> does the latest gnomebaker have overburn in it?
[09:24] <pike_> habeeb: it is but you need some more info on your mp3 player maybe there is no reason you cant reformat the partition and have it work
[09:24] <cipher_nemo> How do I close gnome/x and get to a command prompt? (no, logout does not close x, I want to quit x completely)
[09:24] <heanol_> i have hda,sda,sdb,sdc,sdd,sde.. what hd should grub install to?
[09:24] <stealth_> I know you would install ubuntu with ubuntu-desktop, but removing kubuntu-desktop is the trickier thing isn't it?
[09:24] <jstarcher> stealth_ In synaptic you can remove it
[09:24] <heanol_> i have hda,sda,sdb,sdc,sdd,sde.. i would like grub to install to sde, what hd should grub install to?
[09:24] <Llewxam> oskude: precisely what should i look for in the log?
[09:25] <SinnerG> a Bind Q: is it possible to include every file in a certain folder? like include "/some/path/*.bind" ? Anyone knows? I cant test it atm and nobody answered me on #bind the whole day :p
[09:25] <ubuntu__> stealth_,  i installed kubuntu from ubuntu , if that makes sense
[09:25] <ubuntu__> ;)
[09:25] <oskude> cipher_nemo: gnome runs in "ctrl+alt+f7" f1-f6 are consoles...
[09:25] <buzzy-> !floppy
[09:25] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[09:25] <oskude> Llewxam: normally its an [EE]  in the beginning of a line
[09:25] <Llewxam> k i'll try that and come back
[09:25] <cipher_nemo> oskude: I don't want x running at all... how do consoles help me?
[09:26] <oskude> cipher_nemo: so you dont really have to close gnome to get to the console
[09:26] <ubuntu__> !snort
[09:26] <ubotu> snort: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.3-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 347 kB, installed size 824 kB
[09:26] <pike_> jmitchj: sorry not any more advise other than searching ubuntuforums.org for your card maybe
[09:26] <cipher_nemo> oskude: no, I don't want a terminal window
[09:26] <oskude> cipher_nemo: ok, then go to console and run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[09:26] <cipher_nemo> oskude: ty!
[09:26] <vanisher> cipher_nemo: set your runlevel to 3
[09:27] <ubuntu__> any1 installed XGL here?
[09:27] <oskude> cipher_nemo: and i didnt say anthing about a terminal window, i said going to console with "ctrl+alt+f1"
[09:28] <pike_> !xgl > ubuntu__
[09:28] <jstarcher> Is there a way to show how much of you swap is being used? It doesn't show it in df
[09:28] <ubuntu__> pike_, ty
[09:28] <jeevesbond> cipher_nemo: Open a terminal and type 'init 3' (think that works from a terminal window)--as vanisher recommended.
[09:28] <oskude> jstarcher: free
[09:28] <jstarcher> thx
[09:29] <oskude> jstarcher: free -m (for megabytes)
[09:30] <jeevesbond> "<- cipher_nemo has disconnected (Remote closed the connection)" I suppose that worked then...
[09:30] <jstarcher> whoa!
[09:30] <jstarcher> looks like I should get some more ram on my server
[09:30] <jstarcher> 256mb and 246 is used
[09:31] <jstarcher> -_-
[09:31] <jeevesbond> Yes ubuntu__ I have xgl
[09:31] <oskude> jstarcher: uninstall gnome & co in server...
[09:31] <ubuntu__> jeevesbond, kool , any improvment in performance or anything?
[09:31] <oskude> jstarcher: actually theres even an iso for server isntallation
[09:32] <habeeb> pike_: I'll annoy you some more, sorry. After a reboot I got some changes. First of all, /dev/sda1 dissapeared and /dev/sda took its place, and I got these errors: http://pastebin.ca/191198 . Check them out, in case something changed, if you'd like.
[09:32] <jstarcher> oskude, it's not ubuntu on that rig, it's slackware :-P
[09:32] <earthian> hello
[09:32] <earthian> my PPP is spaming my copnsole :(
[09:32] <earthian> console*
[09:32] <pike_> jstarcher: i run xubuntu on 256 and and its my server and media box
[09:32] <earthian> how to stop that?
[09:32] <jeevesbond> ubuntu__: Performance? Well everyone who owns an ATI card is waiting for them to release drivers so we wont need XGL anymore :)
[09:33] <ubuntu__> jeevesbond,  aah ok, well u see i have crappy intel onboard card
[09:33] <jstarcher> pike_: yeah I dunno why it's all used up? Is there a way to show what pid's are using it?
[09:33] <jeevesbond> If you want XGL performance, get an nVidia card and you wont need to run XGL at all. :)
[09:33] <ubuntu__> earthian,  hi
[09:33] <Lard-O-Lad> does the ubuntu livecd run any daemons?
[09:33] <earthian> hi
[09:33] <jeevesbond> Ahhhh, I know how you feel mate
[09:33] <Ander_> hi
[09:33] <plutarchos> jstarcher, you wouldn't know a trick for finding the VP/VC value (ADSL etc) would you? I happen to be connected presently via a USB ADSL modem on WinXP - any files here which can be analysed?
[09:33] <ubuntu__> earthian,  try network-admin as root or gksu network-admin
[09:33] <earthian> my ATI uses fglrx? is that the same as XGL?
[09:33] <oskude> Lard-O-Lad: propably
[09:33] <ubuntu__> Lard-O-Lad,  yep they do
[09:33] <earthian> what i will see there ubuntu__ ?
[09:34] <oskude> earthian: no
[09:34] <ubuntu__> earthian,  net control options :)
[09:34] <jstarcher> plutarchos, nope, sorry
[09:34] <Lard-O-Lad> i have a PC without a monitor, does the Live CD run a ssh server/ftpd?
[09:34] <pike_> habeeb: lets just do sudo cfdisk /dev/sda and then delete sda1 and select write and then recreate it and write and then quit and then mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[09:34] <ubuntu__> Lard-O-Lad,  ssh =yes, ftp = no
[09:34] <oskude> Lard-O-Lad: not automaticly
[09:34] <jstarcher> oskude: hmm why is it not showing the correct amounts when I do free -m?
[09:35] <plutarchos> jstarcher, no problem - next quickie, I've selected my rather basic Lexmark printer (parallel port connected) from the printer config on Ubuntu... yet it isn't adding.
[09:35] <Lard-O-Lad> oskude
[09:35] <oskude> jstarcher: it doesnt ? how do you know ?
[09:35] <plutarchos> jstarcher, liveCD version. Is this a known problem? Or will it only work on the installed version?
[09:35] <earthian> ubuntu__, where should i look exactly? i am sorry but i do not know what causes the sapmming in console :(
[09:35] <jstarcher> oskude: it says I'm using almost all 2gb on my worksation, but krellm says I'm not even using a gig
[09:35] <jeevesbond> earthian: No, fglrx is the proprietary driver from ATI. XGL is some malarky that allows Beryl to work
[09:35] <Tokenbad> oskude, well after ran fsck to try and fix what qparted did....it now says have a 47 gig drive with like 15 gigs free
[09:35] <earthian> spamming*
[09:35] <earthian> thanks jeevesbond :)
[09:35] <oskude> jstarcher: hmm...
[09:35] <pike_> jstarcher: ubuntu's going to use whatever available ram you have for stuff free doesnt really give you a good idea it would look like you needed more if you had 512 and typed free
[09:36] <kothz> linux memory management is a bit obscure to mere mortals.  It'll use up all its ram, without freeing it.
[09:36] <Tokenbad> oskude, so now its missing like 30 gigs
[09:36] <Mouldy> Hey all! I'm having a problem reading floppies, I put it in and have no way of accessing them. Any fix for this?
[09:36] <habeeb> Actually pike_ , its 1GB of free space, nothing inside.
[09:36] <pike_> jstarcher: although with gnome you do prob need more
[09:36] <habeeb>    Name        Flags      Part Type  FS Type          [Label]         Size (MB)
[09:36] <habeeb>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[09:36] <habeeb>                             Pri/Log   Free Space                         992.93
[09:36] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  try mountign them manually
[09:36] <it2> yow, anyone who knows how i can partition my harddrive in ubuntu?
[09:36] <oskude> Tokenbad: sorry, im tired to start explaining partitions atm...
[09:36] <jeevesbond> Beryl does funky effects on your desktop (it's/was also known as compiz)...Just in case you didn't know
[09:36] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, how? mount /media/floppy0?
[09:36] <earthian> omfg!!! o_O
[09:36] <earthian> Mem:       1033564    1003052      30512
[09:36] <Dr_willis> it2,  gparted, or the othe rfdisking tools
[09:37] <earthian> total used free
[09:37] <earthian> ^^
[09:37] <earthian> omg i am out of mem
[09:37] <earthian> :/
[09:37] <it2> ty dr willis
[09:37] <oskude> jstarcher: well, i usually trust free more than kgrellm...
[09:37] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0   (or similer line)
[09:37] <jstarcher> pike_: it's slackware.....
[09:37] <pike_> jstarcher: same principal
[09:37] <it2> wow damn, my system restarted and i get this msg: grub loading, plz wait errror 17
[09:38] <it2> anyone?
[09:38] <jstarcher> oskude: I don't....theres nothing running to use that much ram. Gnome system monitor says the same as krellm too
[09:38] <jstarcher> pike_: yeah, I'm not running any WM on that rig
[09:38] <jstarcher> just CL
[09:38] <suff0kate> how come when i do tsocks gaim it won't let me connect anymore everything is set up right
[09:38] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, Ok, I tried that, the drive made a bit of noise and then terminal said "mount: you must specify the filesystem type"
[09:38] <kothz> Your OS will manage the RAM.  It won't necessarily free it.
[09:38] <oskude> jstarcher: hmm, so you got 2gb ram and how much swap ?
[09:39] <it2> help help
[09:39] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  its worth wile learning how to manually mount things..  I was also assuming that ubuntu could just mount them automatically? Is there a way to do that rather than doing it manually all the time?
[09:40] <it2> looks like i can't even acces my bios
[09:40] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  its supposed to mount them.. i recall finding the floppy in the media stuff and rightclick/mounting them.. but i dont mess with them much
[09:40] <jstarcher> oskude: gnome system monitor says I'm using 820mb ram and 20mb swap
[09:41] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  the # of floppys i use a year < 2 :)
[09:41] <Dr_willis> This is the only machine i got out of like 9 that has a floppy.
[09:41] <Demo1> evening all
[09:41] <Jowi> it2: how many harddisks do you have? what type of harddisks (IDE or SATA)?
[09:41] <oskude> jstarcher: hmm, system monitor says 178 ram used here, and free says 178mb too ...
[09:41] <highneko> How can I get rid of the window outlines when minimizing? I found some information about removing the outline when programs are started, but not for minimizing.
[09:41] <habeeb> pike_: sda1 will be bootable?
[09:41] <pike_> habeeb: yeah flag it bootable
[09:41] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, even so, would have thought technology as old as floppy drives would "just work" :p
[09:41] <oskude> jstarcher: -/+ buffers/cache:        178
[09:41] <Dr_willis> highneko,  yep - i find that annoying also.. but the gnome guys dont like to give us too many options.
[09:42] <it2> jowi: i have 2 hd's 1 10 gig with ms installed, a 80 gb with ubuntu on it
[09:42] <oskude> jstarcher: and swap used is the same too :/
[09:42] <it2> both are ata
[09:42] <Demo1> anyone here got a problem I can attempt to help with? (I am over due to help some people)
[09:42] <it2> ide
[09:42] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  the system really dosetn have a method to realize the floppy has changed.. DOS sort of faked it.. and windows i think just constantly scans..
[09:42] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  or at least i think thats how it works.
[09:42] <THX-1138> jstarcher - Do you have a server installed?
[09:42] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  learning to MOUNT things yourself is the best idea. the auto-mounting stuff just causes more hassles.
[09:42] <habeeb> I created the partition but there is no /dev/sda1 pike_
[09:43] <blabla> Demo1, you have one
[09:43] <StAfZe6> hello
[09:43] <pike_> habeeb: what did it call it?
[09:43] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  also umount the floppy befor removing it
[09:43] <Jowi> it2: if you can do this in bios, change the boot order of the harddisks. if you can not, physically change the order of them.
[09:43] <str47> hey
[09:43] <StAfZe6> no
[09:43] <jstarcher> THX-1138, yes
[09:43] <str47> ?
[09:43] <it2> ok, thx
[09:43] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, What happens if I don't (umount)? Corrupt data or something?
[09:43] <Jowi> it2: wait
[09:43] <habeeb> pike_: I called it "sda1" and it appears alright in cfdisk /dev/sda
[09:43] <it2> i can't acces the bios, so i'll fysicly change the order
[09:43] <jstarcher> oskude: appearently the +/- thing is the real number
[09:43] <Demo1> mmm apparently so blabla
[09:43] <oskude> jstarcher: yup
[09:43] <habeeb> But there isnt a sda1 in the /dev directory pike_
[09:43] <Jowi> it2: can you see grub at all?
[09:43] <jstarcher> oskude, cool thanks
[09:43] <pike_> habeeb: now after exiting cfdisk type mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[09:44] <habeeb> pike_: That sda1, was a partition right?
[09:44] <it2> what is grub?
[09:44] <Demo1> it2
[09:44] <habeeb> But there is no /dev/sda1 pike_  :3
[09:44] <Demo1> grub is grand unified bootloader
[09:44] <zool2005> evenin all
[09:44] <THX-1138> jstarcher - 1.2g here and no swapfile usage. - wondering if apache always uses swap. google "linux swappiness" good explanation and tweaks
[09:44] <pike_> habeeb: yeah sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[09:44] <Justy-> hi =)
[09:44] <Jowi> it2: the boot manager. you can select which kernel to use or boot windows for example
[09:44] <it2> nope
[09:44] <jstarcher> oskude & pike_: only 108mb used on the slackware server after all :-D
[09:44] <it2> can't see it
[09:44] <habeeb> pike_: /dev/sda1: No such file or directory
[09:44] <whyso> can most games run in wine?
[09:44] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  or worse. :)
[09:44] <Jowi> it2: so switch the order of the disks. see if that helps
[09:44] <Justy-> question: I have a sda hdd which has a format of NTFS
[09:44] <pike_> habeeb: did you write changes before exiting cfdisk?
[09:45] <it2> ok, i'll try
[09:45] <Dr_willis> whyso,  SOME games can run with wine
[09:45] <Demo1> can't see what it2?
[09:45] <Jowi> it2: why can't you access BIOS btw?
[09:45] <zool2005> is it possible to do a minimal install of ubuntu to use on an old laptop? I want to choose my own packages to avoid bloat
[09:45] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, oh noes! :o Either way though, it's a bit daft that a user-friendly distro like ubuntu can't handle floppys :p
[09:45] <habeeb> Yes, and now when I do "cfdisk /dev/sda" the partition appears alright.
[09:45] <Justy-> question: I go to SystemAdmin.Disk manager
[09:45] <bluefox83> anyone familiar with the synaptics kernel module?
[09:45] <jstarcher> THX-1138, interesting
[09:45] <it2> i can acces bios
[09:45] <habeeb> But it was saying something about "couldnt read it , reboot first" or something. I'll reboot.
[09:45] <it2> srry, didn't see
[09:45] <jstarcher> THX-1138, 1.2g of 2g?
[09:45] <jstarcher> for u?
[09:45] <whyso> ah ok, trying to decide weather or not to dual boot; do the majority of newer ones?
[09:45] <it2> so i'll swap the master and slave, right?
[09:45] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  go research the history of the floppy and linux befor you start passing judgement.. and as far as i know - it DOES work fine for my system
[09:45] <pike_> habeeb: ok unplug it and replug then try the command again
[09:45] <THX-1138> whyso - The more they utilise cd copy protection or directx the less likely it will run as just point and click install. - take a peek at cedega.
[09:45] <Justy-> question: then it enables /tmp/sdablablabla and i can access there ONLY with root privilages
[09:45] <habeeb> Aw ok pike_
[09:46] <Jowi> it2: oh, but not change the boot order from there? I see.
[09:46] <whyso> ok thanks
[09:46] <baconbacon> zool2005: look into the server cd, then go from there
[09:46] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  thats the problem with automounting stuff.. when it breaks - its yet anothe rlayer to troubledshoot.
[09:46] <THX-1138> jstarcher - 1.2g total.
[09:46] <jstarcher> of swap?
[09:46] <jstarcher> right
[09:46] <Justy-> question: can i access there without the help of disk manager directly
[09:46] <bluefox83> i need to know what the new name for the kernel module "Synaptics" is
[09:46] <oskude> zool2005: you could install using the server image, afaik theres no (yet) easy way to install a base system like with debian
[09:46] <zool2005> baconbacon, thanks
[09:46] <Jowi> it2: is it a fresh install of ubuntu?
[09:46] <whyso> i really wish directx was made open source :(
[09:46] <it2> jowi: yes
[09:46] <Demon012> lol so do i whyso
[09:46] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  as far as i know.. you find the floppy drive icon, right click, and slect mount.
[09:46] <THX-1138> jstarcher - somethin like 200mbs used - heavy use of mysql here.
[09:46] <Demon012> SDL is a good middleground tho i suppose
[09:47] <Demon012> just gotta convince more developers to use it
[09:47] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  then befor you remove the disk you right click - select unmounr
[09:47] <Justy-> hi =)
[09:47] <Justy-> question: I have a sda hdd which has a format of NTFS
[09:47] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, I only get a floppy icon when I've already mounted it, so the only option I have is to unmount it...which makes sense :p
[09:47] <oskude> zool2005: and my favorite minimal wm is "openbox" ;)
[09:47] <Justy-> question: I go to SystemAdmin.Disk manager
[09:47] <Justy-> question: then it enables /tmp/sdablablabla and i can access there ONLY with root privilages
[09:47] <habeeb> What the fuck pike_ :P now there are /dev/sdb and /dev/sdb1 and nothing of /dev/sda*
[09:47] <Justy-> question: can i access there without the help of disk manager directly
[09:47] <boink> !language
[09:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:47] <jstarcher> THX-1138, yeah I dunno if apache uses swap, I'd guess if it needed to it would but otherwise not...my server is just a LAN fileserver and I do have apache/mysql up but they aren't really used at all
[09:47] <zool2005> oskude: there is not internet connection, will I be able to access repositories on other ubuntu cd?
[09:47] <pike_> habeeb: thats fine
[09:47] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  thers a setting for the gnome desktop to show unmounted floppies - i do belive. I dont use gnome.. so cant tell you more... I dont want ANY icons on my desktop
[09:47] <oskude> zool2005: yes
[09:48] <Jowi> it2: then I would probably try to reinstall it instead of swap the order first of all. The problem is probably this: when grub is installed it is installing itself on the MBR (master boot record) on the wrong disk. and the wrong disk is bootable in bios. wierd problem but happens.
[09:48] <pike_> habeeb: well sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[09:48] <it2> jowi: it is a fresh install, but ubuntu used the entire 80 gb hd, while i only meant to give it a 10 gb partition, so i went back to ms, deleted the partition, then partitioned it again to a 10 gb and a 70 gb partition
[09:48] <Lard-O-Lad> Justy-: if you change the umask to 000 you can access without super user privilages
[09:48] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, ok thanks, I'll check gconf
[09:48] <habeeb> pike_: Ok
[09:48] <pike_> habeeb: hald is waky that way
[09:48] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  i dont think you got to go that extreme.. if you do.. thats showing WHY i dont use gnome..
[09:48] <habeeb> And then unplug && plug?
[09:48] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, what is umask and where can i change it from?
[09:48] <it2> ok , i'll fysicly swap the disks
[09:48] <Jowi> it2: ah, then try a reinstall. set up the partitions properly in the installation.
[09:48] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, What do you use? One of the *boxes?
[09:49] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, ow, thanks btw =)
[09:49] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  i tend to use kde.
[09:49] <pike_> habeeb: might as well
[09:49] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, I didn't particularly like KDE. Just wasn't for me I guess, prefer Gnome's way of doing things
[09:49] <habeeb> ok
[09:49] <it2> ko
[09:49] <it2> ok
[09:49] <jstarcher> oskude pike_ THX-1138: well I'm outta here, I have to goto work. Thanks for the help
[09:49] <Lard-O-Lad> Justy-: np, open /etc/fstab and look for the line with the NTFS drive
[09:49] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  of gnomes lack of ways to do things. :)
[09:49] <Jowi> it2: better another failed installation than having to re-switch again in case it doesn't work.
[09:49] <it2> man , i hope using ubuntu will be easier then installing it :p
[09:50] <oskude> jstarcher: have fun
[09:50] <habeeb> Now its only /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 pike_  :P Hide and seek?
[09:50] <Dr_willis> Mouldy,  the more i used gnome.. the more i disliked it. :)  but Linux is all about Flexability
[09:50] <it2> ok
[09:50] <Jowi> it2: bad luck that's all.
[09:50] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, Well, as much as I'd agree with you at the moment (:P) it tends to be quite well behaved
[09:50] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, I couldn't see.. would you like me to pastebin it?
[09:51] <kupesoft> Why did breezy upgrade firefox to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[09:51] <Lard-O-Lad> Justy-: if it isnt there your gonna have to add it
[09:51] <Mouldy> Dr_willis, Each to his own I guess. I used fluxbox for a while, got bored of that pretty quickly :p
[09:51] <it2> jowi: i've gotten a headacke after trying to install it the entire afternoon, must be my lack of knowledge :)
[09:51] <Jowi> it2: use ext3 for the linux partition
[09:51] <sharky-> woo ubuntu!!!
[09:51] <Jowi> it2: and install grub on MBR
[09:51] <Lard-O-Lad> better yet...
[09:51] <Lard-O-Lad> !ntfs-3g > Justy-
[09:51] <vanisher> !snort
[09:51] <kupesoft> Why did breezy upgrade firefox to <IP_ADDRESS>??
[09:51] <Zaggynl> hmm what does Ubuntu default to? I just clicked next a lot
[09:51] <habeeb> Should I do the same for /dev/sda1 pike_ ? :/
[09:51] <ubotu> snort: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.3-5ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 347 kB, installed size 824 kB
[09:52] <vanisher> !exim
[09:52] <ubotu> exim: An MTA (Mail Transport Agent). In component universe, is extra. Version 3.36-18ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 758 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[09:52] <it2> jowi: can i install ubuntu on a hd wich has also a ms data partition on it?
[09:52] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, http://pastebin.com/800250
[09:52] <oskude> Zaggynl: default what ?
[09:53] <Jowi> it2: believe me, it is bad luck. I managed to screw up to have error 17 once (my own fault). yes you can absolutely install on the same disk
[09:53] <Zaggynl> oskude, the file system, does it use ext2 by default?
[09:53] <oskude> Zaggynl: ext3
[09:53] <it2> jowi: ok, thx man
[09:53] <Zaggynl> ah okay
[09:53] <cipher_nemo> For ubuntu 6.06 dapper install CD, is there a quicker way to install than selecting Start/Install... I noticed a command line you can enter a command?
[09:53] <pike_> habeeb: is it working again?
[09:54] <adam0509> hi
[09:54] <Lard-O-Lad> Justy-: did you get a PM from ubotu?
[09:54] <zool2005> oskude: I'd considered installing Arch linux but there is little support and all my questions went unanswered on IRC so I'll try installing my trusted Ubuntu!
[09:54] <adam0509> Why got I french on that page : https://help.ubuntu.com/ ???
[09:54] <it2> jowi: earlier today ubuntu erased my entire win data hd and dleted all partitions i made in windows, can you guide me thrue the install?
[09:54] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, it tells me to have Fuse installed
[09:54] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, yes
[09:54] <habeeb> No, endless splash screen still, pike_ . But the /dev/sdb became /dev/sda again..
[09:54] <CVirus> how can I update a single package using apt ?
[09:55] <adam0509> Why got I french on that page : https://help.ubuntu.com/ ???
[09:55] <adam0509> Why got I french on that page : https://help.ubuntu.com/ ???
[09:55] <adam0509> Why got I french on that page : https://help.ubuntu.com/ ???
[09:55] <adam0509> Why got I french on that page : https://help.ubuntu.com/ ???
[09:55] <adam0509> thx.
[09:55] <oskude> cipher_nemo: sudo apt-get install programname
[09:55] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, can you inform me about it ? please
[09:55] <graveson> i am trying to install a tvr/dvb type device,can someone please tell me what this is : snd_rawmidi
[09:55] <cipher_nemo> oskude: so I'd want to do what for programname to get full ubuntu?
[09:55] <CVirus> adam0509: is that a proper way to ask a question ?
[09:55] <Jowi> it2: very difficult to guide over IRC (and I work tomorrow). If it erased all your win data you did make something wrong in the setup for sure.
[09:55] <it2> jowi: what is best, install ubuntu on the entire 80 gig hd , then repartition the hd in ubuntu, or create a partition while installing?
[09:56] <adam0509> no one answer me in several channel...
[09:56] <adam0509> beginning to being annoyed...
[09:56] <oskude> cipher_nemo: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:56] <Zaggynl> adam0509, spamming doesn't help either
[09:56] <it2> jowi: i'm sure it's my fault:p
[09:56] <suff0kate> whats the command to edit a text in terminal i forget sudo something
[09:56] <adam0509> I Knowh ><
[09:56] <CVirus> adam0509: ask your ISP
[09:56] <Lard-O-Lad> Justy-: well NTFS is proprietary to microsoft, for a while now linux users have been trying to read and write from NTFS partition.  NTFS-3G is by far the best implementation.  (however it is still in beta, not to be used in "production" machines)
[09:56] <Zaggynl> adam0509, the site is in french for you?
[09:56] <adam0509> is the wiki.ubuntu.com the officiel wiki ?
[09:56] <cipher_nemo> oskude: k, thx... have you done this before on a new install instead of letting it boot to gnome/x?
[09:56] <it2> jowi: installer is not very clear if you're a win user for like 12 yrs
[09:56] <Lard-O-Lad> Justy-: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ntfs-3g
[09:57] <THX-1138> suff0kate: edit with root priv? sudo gedit or nan or even ed  OMG!
[09:57] <Justy-> Lard-O-Lad, hmmm
[09:57] <adam0509> that page only (I'm french by the way, so its a ISP script h4x something ?)
[09:57] <Jowi> it2: create partitions during setup is easier. for example partition1: / (root) 6GB ext3, partition 2: swap 1GB, partition 3: /home 30GB ext3
[09:57] <kupesoft> Why did breezy upgrade firefox to <IP_ADDRESS>??
[09:57] <suff0kate> how do i edit a text that only read only in terminal
[09:57] <suff0kate> ?
[09:57] <THX-1138> s/nan/nano/g
[09:57] <oskude> cipher_nemo: no, as the desktop (alternate) cd installs that automaticly
[09:57] <Lard-O-Lad> Justy-: if you just want to read from a NTFS partition, then the default NTFS drivers will do
[09:57] <suff0kate> nano kk ty
[09:57] <habeeb> btw pike_ just for the history of this thing... Why am I getting a folder with the mp3 in my "computer" directory even tho its not mounted?
[09:58] <cipher_nemo> oskude: ok... I;ll try to install the ubuntu-desktop and see if it works :) thx again
[09:58] <it2> jowi: wich partition will be my win data partition then?
[09:58] <CVirus> how can I update a single package using apt ?
[09:58] <it2> jowi: i still wonna use 70 gig for win u see
[09:58] <Jowi> it2: does not matter which one it is. can make it as number 1, 2, 3 or 4. linux make no difference where it is
[09:59] <it2> jowi: so i want to make 70 gig ntfs, 1 gig fat32 for swapping between ubuntu and win, and 9 gig for ubuntu itself
[09:59] <pike_> habeeb: well at least you still have a sweet thumbdrive :)
[09:59] <Llewxam> amazing.. changed kernels and it works.... backing my stuff up now for a format and reinstall... as much as i'd hate to do it.
[09:59] <oskude> adam0509: bad that theres not even an option to select the desired languange for that site...
[09:59] <habeeb> No pike_
[09:59] <habeeb> I cant store things inside..
[09:59] <Jowi> it2: swap is not fat32. and you can not use it for both win and linux
[09:59] <THX-1138> it2 - A Fat32 partition can be useful for files to be seen in linux and windows.
[09:59] <adam0509> I want to see the english Wiki... but I ddon't find how !!!!!!!!!
[10:00] <habeeb> Well, I'm so going to that store tomorrow and saying that my bad unclie tried to apply some songs and plugged it off before he rejected the device.. :(
[10:00] <Jowi> it2: you can make 70GB ntfs, 9 gig ext3 and 1gb swap (for linux)
[10:00] <it2> jowi: ok
[10:00] <oskude> adam0509: hmm, but i dont get it as german, even that im in germany...
[10:00] <it2> jowi: thx dude
[10:00] <TyggerBob> Jowi, I don't think me meant that as a swap drive..
[10:00] <adam0509> :|
[10:00] <Jowi> it2: no probs
[10:00] <TyggerBob> I think he meant as a "transfer" drive
[10:00] <TyggerBob> that's what I do as well.
[10:01] <adam0509> erh.... is that "thing" the official wiki => https://help.ubuntu.com/community ???
[10:01] <zerberus_> hi!
[10:01] <Jowi> TyggerBob: ah, yeah. you might be right. that's what you meant it2?
[10:01] <TyggerBob> one that's writable from both the Ubuntu and Windows
[10:01] <oskude> adam0509: "wiki" is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[10:01] <earthian> nn all
[10:02] <ryan__> what could cause this error:      There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon. Some things, such as themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly. The Settings Daemon restarted too many times. The last error message was: System exception: IDL:Bonobo/GeneralError:1.0 : Child process did not give an error message, unknown failure occurred.GNOME will still try to restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in
[10:02] <it2> jowi: should i resize the hd?
[10:02] <adam0509> okay...
[10:02] <TyggerBob> but it2, you will still need an actual _swap_ partition formated as swap for Ubuntu.
[10:02] <zerberus_> Anyone ever had the problem that the Kernel freezes at startup if a USB-Hub is connected?
[10:02] <adam0509> I think i'm gonna add very much text for it....
[10:02] <Centaur5> If an Averatec laptop crashes when it tries to boot the install cd in text or live cd mode is it going to be impossible to put it on?
[10:02] <it2> ok
[10:02] <Jowi> it2: if that was what you meant, 1: ntfs 69 gb, 2: ext3 9 gb, 3: fat32 1gb, 4: swap 1gb
[10:02] <it2> then i'll make 4 partitions
[10:02] <adam0509> It's a huge holed wiki.... oskude don't you think so ?
[10:03] <it2> jowi: that is what i mean yes
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> Centaur5: define 'crash'
[10:03] <oskude> adam0509: huge holed ?
[10:03] <Paddy_EIRE> how simple would it be to change the gnome splash screen
[10:03] <adam0509> the french wiki must be above 4 or 5 more bigger !
[10:03] <Jowi> it2: if you will wipe the hdd anyway there's no need to resize it. remember you can only have 4 primary partitions.
[10:03] <Centaur5> fyrestrtr: It does a kernel init error
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: system > preferences > splash screen
[10:03] <TyggerBob> I'd make the fat32 drive even a bit bigger.. I'm finding that 1G wasn't enough.. depending whether your actually leaving stuff there...
[10:04] <it2> ok
[10:04] <H080J03> ok i have just purchesed a usb bluetooth dongle, i would like to scan for some devices useing it, how would i go about doing this
[10:04] <Paddy_EIRE> fyrestrtr: it aint there
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> what?
[10:04] <Tokenbad> I need someone to help me with a drive problem
[10:04] <cberlo> where would I look for information about an Edgy LTSP install that doesn't allow logins through LDM?
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> Centaur5: anything before the error that you see on the screen?
[10:04] <TyggerBob> H080J03, try hcitool hci0 scan
[10:04] <TyggerBob> I think..
[10:04] <cberlo> (and/or any additional docs to take advantage of the new local devices features and local printing...)
[10:04] <pike_> H080J03: i think youll need bluez-utils package
[10:04] <it2> jowi: can i install in english and change the language latr to dutch? i wonna do this cause now i have to translate each step..
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> cberlo: #ubuntu+1 is a good place to start
[10:05] <pike_> H080J03: too
[10:05] <Jowi> it2: yes
[10:05] <Centaur5> TyggerBob: Can you let me know how to issue the command when I can't get into the live cd?
[10:05] <it2> ok, thx
[10:05] <TyggerBob> Centaur5, which command?
[10:05] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know how to change the gnome splash screen
[10:05] <graveson> can someone please help. i am installing a tv device(similar to a dvb) .when i plug in the usb cable some modules are loaded-noticed via lsmod ,but i see nothing hwhen doing lspci .what does this mean
[10:06] <cberlo> fyrestrtr: Thanks.
[10:06] <Jowi> !usplash
[10:06] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:06] <axa-axa> Hi
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> Paddy_EIRE: use the gconf editor
[10:06] <kitche> graveson: lspci is for pci slots
[10:06] <H080J03> TyggerBob, nothing happened
[10:06] <trappist> graveson: lspci doesn't list usb devices - you want lsusb :)
[10:06] <adam0509> the french wiki must be above 4 or 5 more bigger ! oskude
[10:06] <TyggerBob> H080J03, are there any discoverable BT devices nearby?
[10:06] <oskude> adam0509: cant compute!
[10:06] <axa-axa> Since dapper drake 6.06 is LTS (Long Term Support) does that mean that last Gnome version will also be available for dapper drake?
[10:07] <H080J03> i don't think so, i need to buy some batteirs for my mouse
[10:07] <rellis> Anyone ever hear of sound working fine in Ubuntu, but you can hear no sound from flash videos in Firefox?
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> axa-axa: no.
[10:07] <Tokenbad> I have an 80 gig drive...it was orginally all in one partition...I then used qparted to try and resize that partition to 2 partitions...gparted froze...so rebooted...once rebooted the drive said all the space was used...so I then ran fsck try and fix the drive...well it freed up part of the it saying the drive is 47 gigs with 15 gigs free...but I am still missing like 30 gigs that should be free but can't find where it is
[10:07] <trappist> rellis: yes, check out the RestrictedFormats wiki page.  it tells you how to fix it.
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> rellis: very common problem, its in the wiki under RestrictedFormats
[10:07] <axa-axa> fyrestrtr: than what does LTS mean?
[10:07] <trappist> axa-axa: Long Term Support
[10:07] <fyrestrtr> axa-axa: means its supported for longer than the other releases, not that it will update to the latest and greatest.
[10:07] <james___> hello, i'm having a strange problem with my dapper system
[10:08] <TyggerBob> H080J03, I'm pretty sure that if there's nothing to report, it won't report them.
[10:08] <rellis> trappist, fyrestrtr: Thanks.
[10:08] <trappist> axa-axa: security fixes and bugfixes will be backported to dapper for 5 years
[10:08] <TyggerBob> H080J03, most devices require some action to get them to be discoverable.. like holding a button down or something.
[10:08] <axa-axa> thanks
[10:08] <fyrestrtr> H080J03: install the gnome blutooth package, and do a search from gnome.
[10:08] <ed_> i have a mount problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25685/   why does mount report that the drive is mounted or busy?
[10:08] <oskude> trappist: backporting is something else than fixing bugs and security updates
[10:09] <james___> i seem to be receiving about 3 messages a second about hid-core.c having it's controller-queue fill
[10:09] <james___> full*
[10:09] <H080J03> alrighty then
[10:09] <THX-1138> james_ hid = human interface device?
[10:09] <james___> yeah
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> THX-1138: yes
[10:09] <james___> i guess so
[10:09] <trappist> oskude: sometimes they backport hole packages.  but for stable releases, they take patches that fix individual bugs or security issues and backport them to already-released versions.  it's still a backport.
[10:09] <Centaur5> fyrestrtr: Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init
[10:10] <trappist> s/hole/whole/
[10:10] <Centaur5> fyrestrtr: Do you want the long code before that?
[10:10] <CONDE> Did somebody knows how to enter in a computer from linux ubuntu?
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> Centaur5: yes
[10:10] <ryan__> should the user own the contants of the home folder or should root
[10:10] <THX-1138> james_ - ah. - i didn't know.
[10:10] <TyggerBob> CONDE, whatcha trying to do?
[10:10] <ed_> CONDE, use telnet :P
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> ryan__: user, if root does, then the user can't write.
[10:10] <mitsuhhobo> ooer
[10:10] <it2> so, now i created 3 new partitions, can i make my 69 gig ntfs again later in ms?
[10:10] <oskude> trappist: but you dont need the backport repo for that...
[10:10] <CONDE> ubuntu has a telnet?
[10:10] <james___> the tail of my syslog: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25686/
[10:10] <kitche> ryan__: the user should own their own folder but /home should be owned by root
[10:10] <edgy> ed_: : try umount /dev/hdb
[10:10] <ed_> CONDE, if you're crazy enough to install it
[10:10] <H080J03> TyggerBob, how do i know hcitool is useing my dongle?
[10:10] <trappist> oskude: no, the backport repo is for backported packages.
[10:11] <graveson> thanks guys
[10:11] <sharperguy> CONDE, yes ubuntu has telnet
[10:11] <ed_> edgy, that doesnt work. output is shown in the paste
[10:11] <TyggerBob> H080J03, do a dmesg | grep hci
[10:11] <edgy> ed_: no you tried something else ;)
[10:11] <ed_> edgy, partition is not mounted
[10:11] <CONDE> did some of you have a tutorial of how to do it?
[10:11] <TyggerBob> to see if it's creating the device.
[10:11] <oskude> trappist: but you dont need backport repo to get bug and security updates for dapper lts...
[10:11] <graveson> so if my device is not listed -that means it is not being detected.how do i go about troubleshooting this
[10:11] <ed_> edgy, partition is not mounted umount: /dev/hdb: not mounted
[10:11] <TyggerBob> should see something like hci0 in there somewhere.
[10:11] <trappist> oskude: correct
[10:11] <TyggerBob> then try hciconfig
[10:11] <edgy> ed_: hdb not hdb1
[10:11] <ed_> edgy, neither are mounted in /proc/mounts !
[10:12] <Centaur5> fyrestrtr: [17179573.372000]  Code: 74 06 88 81 60 59 38 c0 c3 25 ff 00 00 00 c3 8b 15 24 b0 88 04 4d f5 2f c0 eb 80 b8 e4 ff ff ff c3 8d b4 26 00 00
[10:12] <edgy> ed_: can you paste sudo fdisk -l?
[10:13] <it2> oh ow, i still don't understan..
[10:13] <ed_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25687/
[10:13] <Paddy_EIRE> how should I launch "gconf editor" as there is no way of doing it in the gui as it is not there
[10:13] <it2> so: step 5 i manualy edit partition table, right?
[10:13] <CONDE> did somebody speak spanish?
[10:14] <it2> then i slect my 80 gig drive
[10:14] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: gconf-editor
[10:14] <it2> and right click it, select the new button right?
[10:14] <THX-1138> TyggerBob - hcitool - nice tip. :)
[10:14] <qatsi> ok, im having some troubble with my network card....i did a fresh install in my desktop, and the network card isnt supported, now i know how to install it, but the thing is that i need the latest kernel sources, kernel headers, the make package and various gcc things...is there a way to download them, transfer and install it without network connection ? thnk you :)
[10:14] <Paddy_EIRE> oskude: is that "gksudo" or "sudo" or is it typed in an application launcer
[10:15] <salim> I can open .3gp movie files from my sonyericsson with vlc and mplayer, but in both, there is no sound!
[10:15] <jiphex> can someone have a quick look at my syslog and tell me what's causing this problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25686/ (hid-core.c contol queue full)
[10:15] <salim> can anybody help me
[10:15] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: if you need sudo for graphical tools, use "gksudo"
[10:15] <THX-1138> How do you enable the mount command from the live cd. - a notice on boot up says mount is not enabled. (safer?) - i need the mount command.
[10:16] <Paddy_EIRE> oskude: yeah, lol....but which is it for gconf-editor
[10:16] <Centaur5> fyrestrtr: hopeless?
[10:16] <H080J03> TyggerBob, ok i have my bluetooth enabled phone now, it has bluetooth turned on
[10:16] <Subhuman> salim, i get the same problem.
[10:16] <H080J03> and the scan shows nothing
[10:16] <edgy> ed_: did you try to specify the fs type in the mount?
[10:16] <ryan__> at login after i enter my password i get this error: $home/.dmrc is being ignored. user must be owner.........but the user is the owner of everything in the home folder ...anyideas
[10:16] <CONDE> In telnet when i put open what i have to put the ip addres or some page?
[10:16] <ed_> edgy, yes i treid that previously
[10:16] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: do you need sudo rights for that ?
[10:16] <salim> subhuman: and no solution yet?
[10:17] <TyggerBob> H080J03, the phone will only been seen if it's set as discoverable. my Razor has discoverability turned off by default.. I can enable it for 30 sec in the menu
[10:17] <Paddy_EIRE> oskude: this is a single user comp, just me and root after install
[10:17] <graveson> if a usb  device is not listed by the lsusb command (however it has an id) -that means it is not being detected.how do i go about troubleshooting this
[10:17] <CONDE> Hey who can help me
[10:17] <ed_> edgy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25688/
[10:17] <H080J03> TyggerBob, i took out the hci0 form the command, it worked
[10:17] <oskude> Paddy_EIRE: i can run gconf-editor without sudo rights... but dunno if it needs one...
[10:17] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[10:18] <TyggerBob> Ahh..
[10:18] <TyggerBob> sorry about that..
[10:18] <edgy> jiphex: I also have the exact same problem. It's related to usb but don't know how to solve it. if some one helped you tell me please
[10:18] <Paddy_EIRE> oskude: sorted, nice one
[10:18] <TyggerBob> I don't have my dongle attached right now, so I couldn't try it.
[10:18] <edgy> ed_: is it xfs really?!
[10:18] <CONDE> Did somebody knows how to hacl a computer from ubuntu?
[10:18] <ed_> edgy, yes
[10:19] <heanol_> can i boot up my installed system from the installation cd_
[10:19] <heanol_> ?
[10:19] <edgy> ed_: does it contain any data?
[10:19] <ed_> edgy, yes
[10:19] <kitche> heanol_: yea you have to specify root=
[10:19] <TyggerBob> CONDE, not sure what you're trying to do..
[10:19] <jiphex> edgy: i know its something to do with usb, i guess its more specifically to do with kb/mouse as its a hid error
[10:19] <TyggerBob> is it yours?
[10:19] <ed_> edgy, i don't think wiping it would help, some reason mount thinks it's busy/mounted
[10:19] <heanol_> kitche, ok.. so press f6 and change the root to point to my installed partition_
[10:19] <heanol_> ?
[10:20] <kitche> heanol_: yeah that should boot your isntaleld system
[10:20] <heanol_> ok
[10:20] <heanol_> brb, test
[10:20] <heanol_> thanks
[10:20] <heanol_> :-)
[10:20] <CONDE> i want to enter in a computer
[10:20] <CONDE> to see files
[10:20] <TyggerBob> CONDE, who's computer?
[10:20] <TyggerBob> whose, even
[10:21] <CONDE> A them guy who steal files from my computer
[10:21] <Ackeubu_> hwy how do i check if opengl is supported by my video card?
[10:21] <CONDE> it supouse it is my friend
[10:21] <Byan> Ackeubu_: what's your card?
[10:21] <THX-1138> CONDE "ls" list fikes from the command line? see also cd = change directory and cp = copy
[10:21] <edgy> ed_: as a last resort did you try to reboot?
[10:21] <oskude> CONDE: omg ? someone is stealing files from your computer ? how does he/she do that ?
[10:21] <TyggerBob> then sorry.. I can't help you. If it was your computer.. that's one thing..
[10:21] <Ackeubu_> Byan Ati
[10:22] <ed_> edgy, yes, several boots since
[10:22] <CONDE> i don't know
[10:22] <Byan> you wanna be more specific...?
[10:22] <Byan> but really anything made by ATI in the last 10 years is gonna have OpenGL on it
[10:22] <oskude> CONDE: how do you know he/she is stealing your files ?
[10:22] <CONDE> but she show me files in the school i only have
[10:22] <Rahsputin> Hi !  i am using WinXP inside VMware server... having trouble with ? USB 2 ? anyone here expirience with VMware.... allready tried in #vmware,wiki, and google we can meet in #vmware
[10:22] <edgy> ed_: my guess is either a kernel problem ( and you can try to an old kernel) or a really defective usb port
[10:22] <salim> I want to install realplayer (through synaptic) but it says xlibs is not insalled
[10:23] <kevin> hey
[10:23] <ed_> edgy, it's PATA, it was ok when i was using debian a few days ago
[10:23] <Ackeubu_> Byan, it has. but i installed some updates and now i think its not working properly but is running on mesa....
[10:23] <edgy> ed_: I never formatted something as xfs before so I can't tell how it's different but the error message give me the impression not to try it at all ;)
[10:23] <Ackeubu_> GL_RENDERER: Mesa GLX Indirect
[10:23] <harrism> Hi everyone, a guy I knows keeps putting ubuntu down and it's really starting to get annoying. He is a fedora fan and says ubuntu stole fedoras theme and never gave them any credit. I don't know if this is true or not because I have yet to try fedora core. However, if this is true can anyone point me to some ubuntu credits page or something? To shut him up basically?
[10:24] <edgy> ed_: so if you boot from a livecd would it work?
[10:24] <Subhuman> harrism, ubuntu uses a brown theme, no other distro uses brown....
[10:24] <ed_> edgy, i can't think what kernel problem it could be, i have two identical drives, so it's not hardware compatibility, and xfs is built as a kernel driver. xfs is good, i think this is a problem with mount utils
[10:24] <CONDE> can i use telnet to enter in a computer???
[10:24] <baconbacon> harrism: tell him "huh, welcome to free software"
[10:24] <ed_> edgy, i would expect so
[10:24] <Subhuman> CONDE, if they are running a telnet server. yes, but i suggest you to use ssh over telnet
[10:24] <Subhuman> !ssh
[10:24] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:24] <harrism> baconbacon, yeah
[10:24] <harrism> well, he said took fedoras look and made it brown
[10:25] <mitsuhhobo> I think Im gonna reinstall ubuntu
[10:25] <edgy> ed_: sorry that kernel message is not for you it's for jiphex
[10:25] <harrism> I think ubuntu is great, I have nothing against it really
[10:25] <oskude> harrism: let him first show the fedore(tm?) theme ?
[10:25] <edgy> jiphex: my guess is either a kernel problem ( and you can try to an old kernel) or a really defective usb port
[10:25] <Paddy_EIRE> the gnome splashscreen that I downloaded is a .svgz when I click it the timer on the mouse icon sarts then stops and nothing loads....can i use this file in its current format as the splash
[10:25] <THX-1138> harrism - lol - let him fight with thte fedora packaging system and dependency hell. - you can use the time for something productive.
[10:25] <CONDE> i have to open ssh?
[10:25] <CONDE> and then what ia have to do?
[10:25] <mitsuhhobo> this instal doesn't love me anymore
[10:25] <CONDE> find the ip?
[10:26] <harrism> thx-1138, yeah ha, that was the only thing he gave ubuntu credit for.. but then said "wait until fc6"
[10:26] <TyggerBob> take care all..
[10:27] <TyggerBob> have a good evening
[10:27] <jiphex> edgy: yeah, i guess i'll try that, have to wait till im actually at the computer (ssh'ing at the moment). I dont like rebooting remotely ;-)
[10:27] <THX-1138> TyggerBob - Awsome. - thank you for the tips
[10:27] <baconbacon> harrism: well ok, i might reconsider if fc6 gets better, but for the time i use what's best.
[10:27] <ryan__> durring login i get the error: User's $Home/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the defalt session and language from being saved. File should be owned by userand have 644 premissions. Users home directory must be owned by users and not writable by other users.
[10:28] <ryan__> how do i go about fixing this
[10:28] <edgy> ed_: if it worked from a livecd or another system may be you can compare the mount utils version and may be you find one version has that problem
[10:28] <theguy> im having a problem
[10:28] <theguy> i wonder if someone can help
[10:28] <ryan__> and/or where do i find the 1st file the change the premissions