[03:31] <rysiek> does anybody know how to resize a film in mplayer?
[03:31] <at1as> Check your ruleset as root by typing "iptables -L -n"
[03:31] <at1as> Zambaa: Check your ruleset as root by typing "iptables -L -n"
[03:31] <kkathman> I dont use mplayer, I uses totem
[03:31] <Zambba> all is ACCEPT
[03:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> as i said :|
[03:32] <Zambba> so problem is @ some other place
[03:32] <rysiek> kkathman: does totem support subtitles?
[03:32] <kkathman> rysiek: no clue...I never played anything that has subtitles :)
[03:33] <rysiek> d'oh :)
[03:33] <rysiek> i need those, unfortunately :/
[03:33] <kkathman> but totem is standard in kubuntu, so you could try it
[03:33] <rysiek> and (g)mplayer gets the job done nicely, but I seem to be unable to resize the film
[03:33] <rysiek> trying ;)
[03:34] <rysiek> nope, totem is not default
[03:34] <roman-stefan> wow how much of a linux virgin am i ??? i just learnt that files + folders have owners and groups and permissions!!!
[03:34] <rysiek> or at least it hadn't been installed when I upgraded
[03:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol roman-stefan
[03:35] <rysiek> roman-stefan: Polak? :]
[03:35] <roman-stefan> grandfather is
[03:35] <rysiek> :)
[03:35] <rysiek> two definetely Polish names in your nick here :)
[03:36] <rysiek> well, whatever
[03:36] <roman-stefan> :) yeah
[03:36] <roman-stefan> stefan is my 'middle' name, and my fathers name
[03:36] <roman-stefan> what country r u in rysiek ?
[03:37] <rysiek> Poland
[03:37] <roman-stefan> ah k, im i australia
[03:38] <rysiek> wow, hell lot of miles from here :)
[03:38] <roman-stefan> yeah
[03:38] <g0nk> greetings! new kubuntu user here..
[03:38] <kkathman> welome g0nk :)
[03:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi g0nk
[03:39] <kkathman> they should call this channel Kubuntu-Australia :)
[03:39] <kkathman> hehe
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> so true
[03:39] <roman-stefan> for sure
[03:40] <g0nk> :) im in Florida, US here
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[03:40] <kkathman> I have to stay up late or get up early tho to chat with you guyz tho :(
[03:40] <g0nk> hehe
[03:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> heh. i forget where you are
[03:40] <kkathman> howdy g0nk Im closer to you I think...Texas here :)
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats right
[03:41] <g0nk> howdys!
[03:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;) we were comparing temps
[03:41] <kkathman> we do shrimp on the barbie too
[03:41] <roman-stefan> but do you doo roo on the barbie?
[03:41] <g0nk> o.O
[03:42] <roman-stefan> eeeeewwwww
[03:42] <roman-stefan> aussies don't drink fosters
[03:42] <kkathman> haha
[03:42] <roman-stefan> thats export
[03:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[03:42] <kkathman> well you'd never know it by the way its marketed here :)
[03:42] <roman-stefan> haha
[03:42] <kkathman> haha
[03:42] <kkathman> Why dontcha know Fosters is like the National Beer of Australia :)
[03:42] <roman-stefan> me and Kamping_Kaiser drink coopers, cos we're from south aus
[03:42] <g0nk> no kiddin.. they market it like it's Water over there.. :)
[03:43] <roman-stefan> haha
[03:43] <stbain> tagline  is "Fosters... Australian for beer"
[03:43] <kkathman> Funny, I have several friends in the Netherlands, and you'd think Heineken would be the thing, but they hate it!!
[03:43] <roman-stefan> haha
[03:43] <roman-stefan> maybe the best way to offload average beer is to market it oversees
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol.
[03:44] <kkathman> roman-stefan: I think theres truth in that
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> or sell it to victorians
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> or qld'rs
[03:44] <roman-stefan> they make enough shit of their own
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> XXXX <- == teh suxor
[03:44] <roman-stefan> don't start on queensland, im stuck up here
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> lmao
[03:44] <roman-stefan> yes
[03:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> OWNED
[03:44] <roman-stefan> XXXX or VB??
[03:45] <kkathman> g0nk: so how are you liking Kubuntu?
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> both are shit.
[03:45] <roman-stefan> bullett to the head or slashed wrists ??
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol. kkathman good idea
[03:45] <kkathman> rofl
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> roman-stefan: yeh. but its not painfull enough :)
[03:45] <kkathman> thought I'd see if he's got any issues :)
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> sure, hes talking to you :P
[03:45] <roman-stefan> xxxx grows on you when its warm
[03:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> you can catch up for a fosters sometime :P
[03:46] <kkathman> Never had Fosters actually
[03:46] <_manveru> is there a problem using bluetooth-headsets in kubuntu?
[03:46] <roman-stefan> honestly the beer i go for up here is tooheys new
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure if i did, if i have it was up in the tropix ona  boat blind drunk
[03:46] <g0nk> so far i like Kubuntu.. couple probs.. ;)
[03:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> roman-stefan: yeh, its not bad
[03:46] <kkathman> g0nk: what probs?
[03:47] <g0nk> granted, im a linux 1st timer.. so im sure im just missing something somwhere
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> g0nk: the start button has a k on it ;)
[03:47] <roman-stefan> yay fellow virgin
[03:47] <_manveru> g0nk: you made it into irc, so it can't be that bad
[03:47] <g0nk> lol
[03:47] <kkathman> its ok, g0nk, if you only have a couple of probs..thats pretty good
[03:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> kkathman: but one prob will be getting java running on his amd 64 ;)
[03:47] <g0nk> well, im on my work machine right now.. my laptop has kubuntu on it
[03:48] <kkathman> Kamping_Kaiser: yah or on any computer actually...kind of a bear on Linux
[03:48] <g0nk> cant enable my wireless card for some odd reason, and when i run "kdesu kcontrol" all the changes I make in it dont get applied..
[03:48] <kkathman> g0nk: yah there are some issues with administrator mode for one
[03:49] <roman-stefan> bout as european i get is an australian brewed pilsener
[03:49] <kkathman> I would have thought they would have fixed that by now
[03:49] <kkathman> its very annoying
[03:49] <g0nk> i've posted in the forums, here http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?topic=1067.0 and it's been helpful, but im still stuck..
[03:50] <kkathman> g0nk: you've gone through all the ndiswrapper troubleshooting?
[03:50] <g0nk> the wut? :)
[03:50] <jjesse> the adminstrator mode one is a bug, check bugzilla for work arounds
[03:51] <kkathman> I cant help much, cuz I dont have wireless...but there are some things you have to do in ndiswrapper I think
[03:51] <kkathman> jjesse: yah I know..but its still a bug that never should have been there...it wasnt in hoary
[03:52] <jjesse> kkathman: i know there's lot of discussion on #kubuntu-devel on trying to track it down for some reason they can't figure it out
[03:52] <kkathman> jjesse: kinda weird eh?  Someone did something to a common sub, since its pervasive...shouldnt be that hard, except in open source development its compounded
[03:53] <g0nk> im thinking i might install Ubuntu (since it worked when i tried that before) then just install the KDE packages to run KDE..
[03:53] <kkathman> g0nk: you could do that...I'd suggest a clean ubuntu install, then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:53] <kkathman> if you are going to reinstall that is
[03:54] <kkathman> hey hussam :)  Good morning!
[03:54] <g0nk> yeah, well, there's nothing on the system except the OS, so it's not like it would be a big deal to reinstall anyways.. :)
[03:54] <hussam> kkathman: hi
[03:54] <roman-stefan> what load Kamping_Kaiser ?
[03:55] <kkathman> g0nk: two schools of thought:  if you are learning Linux, try working through the issue as best you can.  I get this error http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/406476
[04:02] <hussam> I know its not a cups error. It has to do with network since it started when I comfigured pppoe connection
[04:02] <hussam> http://localhost:631 times out as well
[04:03] <kkathman> hussam: hmm.. I assume you checked to see if cups was running of course
[04:03] <hussam> yes
[04:03] <hussam> I even restarted cups
[04:03] <kkathman> did you try stopping and restarting?
[04:03] <kkathman> ahh ok
[04:03] <kkathman> hehe
[04:04] <jsubl2> hussam: localhost is pingable
[04:04] <kkathman> ok, try this hussam ,   try removing your printer and re-add it
[04:04] <hussam> kkathman: I can't get to the print manager
[04:04] <_seezer> hi
[04:05] <hussam> jsubl2: you're onto something. no, local host is not pingable
[04:05] <kkathman> hussam: in the system settings, hardware, printers
[04:05] <roman-stefan> hello'
[04:05] <kkathman> ohhhh ooops
[04:05] <hussam> kkathman: it hangs then gives an error http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/406476
[04:05] <hussam> jsubl2:  localhost is not pingable
[04:06] <jsubl2> hussam: but the pppoe stuff works?
[04:06] <hussam> jsubl2:  yes
[04:06] <jsubl2> odd
[04:06] <jsubl2>  ifconfig lo
[04:07] <hussam> jsubl2:  so I have two addresses on the network card eth0: <IP_ADDRESS> and ppp0: <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:07] <kkathman> well you are on line on that computer, hussam ??
[04:07] <hussam> yes
[04:07] <jsubl2> hussam: localhost should resolve to <IP_ADDRESS> which is the lo interface... thus how does ifconfig lo look
[04:08] <hussam> jsubl2: can you please look here? http://pastebin.com/406495
[04:09] <hussam> jsubl2: this is the output of ifconfig lo
[04:09] <jsubl2> post cat /etc/network/interfaces results
[04:10] <jsubl2> the lo you posted looks odd to me
[04:10] <hussam> jsubl2: http://pastebin.com/406499
[04:10] <roman-stefan> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/breezy-release.php on this kubuntu site it says a wide variety of pluggins are available to support a large variety of media types, where do you find these pluggins?
[04:11] <roman-stefan> (for the gstreamer)
[04:11] <kkathman> hussam:  read the section here on Enabling cupsys Web Admin Interface..maybe this will help:  http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/
[04:11] <hussam> jsubl2: so I need to reconfigure lo somehow or something like that?
[04:12] <kkathman> the cupsys web admin is disabled by default
[04:12] <jsubl2> hussam: http://pastebin.com/406503
[04:12] <kkathman> so you need to read that above link and it tells you how to start it
[04:12] <g0nk> quick question, when doing a new install, is it better to use LVM or no? (not even sure what it is) i've been just selecting non-LVM though with previous installs
[04:12] <jsubl2> hussam: i posted the lo portion of mine
[04:12] <hussam> where?
[04:12] <kkathman> hussam: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/
[04:13] <jsubl2> http://pastebin.com/406503
[04:13] <kkathman> jsubl2: i think he just needs to enable the cupsys web admin server
[04:13] <hussam> jsubl2: I add that to /etc/network/interfaces?
[04:14] <jsubl2> hussam: copy the original to a safe place.. comment out lines 1 2 and 3 and put in the two i posted.
[04:14] <kkathman> arggh
[04:15] <jsubl2> hussam: but make sure to keep the original.. i don't have pppoe so I am not sure if that is why your looks wrong.. but i feel like the problem is there somewhere
[04:16] <hussam> ok
[04:16] <hussam> brb, I'm going to reboot
[04:16] <jsubl2> hussam maybe the original is ok and you just need to add auto lo
[04:17] <jsubl2> kkathman: that would not explain lo not being pingable
[04:21] <hussam> ok thanks, it works now
[04:22] <hussam> I rebooted after editing /etc/network/interfaces and it works now
[04:22] <g0nk> ok, reinstalling with LVM now, just for the hell of it
[04:22] <jsubl2> hussam: great!!
[04:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> g0nk: have fun
[04:23] <hussam> thanks again. I was one minute away from giving up
[04:26] <NetSKaVeN> hell-o!
[04:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_)
[04:27] <NetSKaVeN> a question
[04:27] <NetSKaVeN> anyone has flashplayer working with Konqueror?
[04:27] <seezer> NetSKaVeN: yes
[04:27] <NetSKaVeN> it doesn't work to me  :/
[04:28] <seezer> errors/effects?
[04:28] <NetSKaVeN> no flash
[04:28] <NetSKaVeN> firefox is working ok with the plugin and it seems konqueror see it too
[04:28] <NetSKaVeN> but flash don't work
[04:29] <seezer> do you see it in konquerors plugins settings?
[04:29] <NetSKaVeN> yeah
[04:30] <seezer> points to /usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc6/libflashplayer.so?
[04:31] <NetSKaVeN> I have it into /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[04:31] <NetSKaVeN> deb doesn't work and direct download from Macromedia doesn't work too
[04:31] <NetSKaVeN> the same problem
[04:32] <seezer> deb works fine here. did you try flashplugin-nonfree?
[04:32] <NetSKaVeN> and I have the same problem in 2 machines, one with KDE 3.4.3 and other with KDE 3.5beta2
[04:32] <NetSKaVeN> yeah, it doesn't work too
[04:33] <seezer> i bet you do something wrong :)
[04:34] <NetSKaVeN> O_O
[04:34] <NetSKaVeN> I discover the cause now
[04:34] <seezer> and konqueror really got it in the 'plugins' tab in 'netscape plugins'?
[04:34] <NetSKaVeN> stranger thing
[04:35] <NetSKaVeN> thanks anyway  :))
[04:35] <seezer> it worked here with flashplayer-mozilla and nonfree. strange.
[04:36] <seezer> kde 3.4.2, 3.4.3, 3.5beta1 and beta2
[04:37] <amarock> how do i reduce size of text in kmenu? and large windows?
[04:37] <NetSKaVeN> seezer: it's working ok now
[04:38] <seezer> NetSKaVeN: ah. what did you do?
[04:38] <NetSKaVeN> I had an option bad into config of konqueror
[04:38] <NetSKaVeN> it needs global activation
[04:42] <NetSKaVeN> pfffffffff, now aptitude say me corrupted index
[04:42] <NetSKaVeN> any idea?
[04:45] <NetSKaVeN> all working ok now again
[04:46] <roman-stefan> i managed to get flash working in firefox!!!!! but i still can't play mp3's or watch videos yet :(
[04:47] <seezer> roman-stefan: did you try mozilla-mplayer?
[04:47] <roman-stefan> it wouldn't install using apt-get install command thingo
[04:47] <amarock> anyone here who upgraded to kde 3.5? did u face any probs after update?
[04:47] <roman-stefan> is that package on the 'universe' in adept ??
[04:48] <seezer> amarock: beta1 was pretty stable for me. beta2 got its problems..
[04:48] <seezer> roman-stefan: sec
[04:48] <amarock> whats the command to do kde upgrade?
[04:49] <seezer> amarock: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta2.php
[04:49] <seezer> roman-stefan: its mulitverse
[04:49] <amarock> anyone here who used initng to reduce boot time and never faced any probs??
[04:49] <NetSKaVeN> I'm working here without important problems with beta2
[04:50] <seezer> kgpg, kontact (and many programms under it), artsd, noatun are buggy here
[04:51] <amarock> seezer: thats for beta2, for beta1 what commands needed?
[04:51] <seezer> amarock: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35beta1.php
[04:51] <roman-stefan> ive enabled  (deleted ## ) multiverse... but mozilla-mplayer isn't available thriough adept
[04:51] <seezer> roman-stefan: did you hit 'fetch updates'?
[04:51] <roman-stefan> yes
[04:52] <roman-stefan> ldouble check that i enabled multiverse
[04:52] <seezer> can't say more
[04:52] <amarock> tomorrow i hope to do fresh install of breezy:), then add lotsa programs.........
[04:53] <roman-stefan> yes the ## in front of the multiverse addresses are gone
[04:53] <roman-stefan> no sign of mplayer on adept...
[04:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> mplayer is in universe
[04:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> mplayer-[56] 86
[04:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> and -k7
[04:54] <seezer> mplayer != mozilla-mplayer
[04:54] <NetSKaVeN> I see mozilla-mplayer too
[04:55] <seezer> may i guess the reason? it's there! :)
[04:55] <amarock> can i get w32codecs etc. from debian marillat repo??
[04:55] <seezer> amarock: sure. why asking?
[04:56] <amarock> coz ppl get these from diff places......i dont know what wud be best place
[04:56] <seezer> marillat is fine
[04:57] <olwin> w32codec --> see plf
[04:58] <NetSKaVeN> plf is from Mdv, isn't it?
[04:58] <olwin> http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf  ; now it's for ubuntu too ;)
[04:59] <NetSKaVeN> wow!!!
[04:59] <roman-stefan> i still can't c it available :(
[04:59] <amarock> seezer: can u give me the exact line i should add to sources.list?
[04:59] <olwin> for the moment : in plf you can dowload : w32codec, J2sdk, J2re, realplay
[05:00] <amarock> plz give me full address of plf site!!
[05:00] <roman-stefan> can u just remove the ## infront of all the addresses in the /etc/apt/sources.list file ??
[05:01] <amarock> its not there by default.......
[05:01] <olwin> ## PLF Free
[05:01] <olwin> deb http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free
[05:02] <olwin> ## PLF Non-free
[05:02] <olwin> deb http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/ breezy non-free
[05:02] <amarock> olwin: thx
[05:02] <seezer> amarock: may i point you to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation ?
[05:02] <seezer> there are links for everything
[05:02] <seezer> including you w32thingy
[05:02] <seezer> your
[05:03] <roman-stefan> do you need to restart after installing packages??
[05:03] <seezer> roman-stefan: no - since it's not the kernel
[05:03] <roman-stefan> oh, are packages "binaries"
[05:03] <amarock> hey why do i have to install gcc3 base too? coming upto 13.7 mb......
[05:04] <seezer> you can only run binaries. even if you download sources you have to build binaries out of them.
[05:04] <seezer> amarock: because something you want to install depends on it
[05:04] <amarock> hmmm.......i thought only the w32codecs deb wud do........:)
[05:13] <fujisan> Look at my new monitors :P http://www.icir.org/hodson/1600sw/dual-1600sw.jpg
[05:13] <g0nk> :( me want!!
[05:13] <fujisan> lol
[05:13] <fujisan> sorry for my own usage :)
[05:14] <_fred> Hallo!?
[05:14] <g0nk> hi
[05:15] <_fred> wohoo es geht
[05:15] <chavo> hallo?!
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> _fred: english here
[05:16] <_fred> ah okay
[05:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> or try #kubuntu-de
[05:16] <_fred> thank you
[05:22] <g0nk> question..
[05:23] <seezer> answer
[05:23] <g0nk> if i have jsut installed the newest Ubuntu, cna I have the CD for Kubuntu Breezy, can i pop in the Kubuntu CD and install KDE off of it? since i dont' have a network conenction... :)
[05:23] <g0nk> and holy crap i cant type today
[05:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep
[05:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> you can
[05:24] <seezer> deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908)] / breezy main restricted
[05:24] <g0nk> kewlies
[05:24] <seezer> add this or a fitting line to your sources.list
[05:24] <seezer> watch that mine is from preview
[05:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> wb
[05:25] <roman-stefan> YAY mp3's are now playing!!!! i did need to restart!!!!
[05:25] <seezer> firefox?
[05:26] <roman-stefan> seezer: was that to me?
[05:26] <roman-stefan> no this is in amarok
[05:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> you shouldnt have had to :(
[05:27] <roman-stefan> gstreamer is now werking, after downloading a bunch of packages
[05:27] <seezer> ah. lol. sorry. i got your question like "can't play mp3s and videos in firefox"
[05:27] <roman-stefan> sound quality is pretty shitty but
[05:27] <g0nk> hmm, ok, when i pop in the Kubuntu 5.10 CD it actually asks if i wanna "Automatically Upgrade" or Start Package manager..  should i do one of these instead of the command line?
[05:27] <seezer> gst-register-0.8 should have done this too
[05:28] <roman-stefan> and i still have the hurdle of getting it to go out the digital optical output to my amp
[05:28] <seezer> roman-stefan: can you set it in alsamixer perhaps?
[05:29] <roman-stefan> that has worked in other distros
[05:29] <seezer> but not in kubuntu?
[05:29] <roman-stefan> oop
[05:29] <roman-stefan> i have kmix not alsamixer :S
[05:30] <seezer> you should have alsamixer too (console tool)
[05:30] <roman-stefan> oh
[05:30] <seezer> but i bet kmix could do it too
[05:30] <seezer> i have a switch for my optical in kmix
[05:33] <roman-stefan> hmmm for some reason there is not digital option, i don't know whether ICH5 as a card and realtek alc650f as a chipset is what an ac97 should be!!!
[05:33] <roman-stefan> is it??
[05:34] <seezer> since there are soundblasters i got one :) don't know. look at the alsa homepage. there is a matrix.
[05:34] <roman-stefan> like will i need to take a red or green pill??
[05:35] <seezer> or like a overview ;)
[05:36] <g0nk> hmm, ok, when i pop in the Kubuntu 5.10 CD it actually asks if i wanna "Automatically Upgrade" or Start Package manager..  should i do one of these instead of the command line?
[05:36] <seezer> g0nk: what about trying? ;)
[05:36] <roman-stefan> YAAAAAAAAAAAAY my video is werking now too!!! now i won't need imagination before i go to bed!!! woohooo
[05:36] <seezer> roman-stefan: :P
[05:37] <g0nk> well, i tried the command line and it said deb was an unrecognized command
[05:37] <seezer> you could have read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications once
[05:37] <seezer> roman-stefan
[05:37] <seezer> g0nk: read what people write
[05:37] <seezer> scroll up and read again what i wrote about this line
[05:38] <seezer> ;)
[05:43] <nikkia> roman-stefan: AC97 is a bit weird, most people grossly fail to understand what it actually is :)
[05:44] <nikkia> roman-stefan: for example, the SBLive and the Audigy are AC97 based, but people assume 'AC97 == onboard audio == rubbish'
[05:49] <g0nk> ok, figured it out, adding the KDE packages now..
[05:51] <_thumper_> anyone here familiar with the nvidia GeForce FX 5200?
[05:52] <roman-stefan> thanx nikkia
[05:53] <_thumper_> nikkia, someone yesterday said that you had a nvidia 5200, is that right?
[05:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> _thumper_: sup?
[05:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> i dont, but might be able to help
[05:54] <mpmc> How do I add the multivirse/univirse????? respos?
[05:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell mpmc about repositories
[05:54] <_thumper_> Kamping_Kaiser, I was wondering which is best, 7667 or 7174?
[05:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> _thumper_: cant answer that
[05:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> i expect its not a big diff
[05:55] <_thumper_> Kamping_Kaiser, also,  are the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-xxx-legacy packages needed?
[05:55] <roman-stefan> wow how good is linux and firefox, i can see japanese hiragana characters in my browser!!!
[05:56] <mpmc> tell mpmc about repositories
[05:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[05:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[05:56] <mpmc> !tell mpmc about repositories
[05:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> mpmc: with a !
[05:56] <mpmc> I know
[05:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> and you can use !tell me
[05:56] <mpmc> Hes not replying
[05:56] <ph8> hi all, I've got a printer problem; I'm running an HP 1410 PSC with the 1400 drivers, as recommended. At the moment it says 'stopped' and I can't print anything - i've tried hitting 'start printer' in the control panel and it processes for a while then decides it's paused again - anyone seen this before?
[05:57] <mpmc> sorry
[05:57] <mpmc> !tell mpmc about repositories
[05:57] <mpmc> he wont talk to me
[05:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> try !tell me about
[05:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell me about repositories
[05:58] <mpmc> !tell me about repositories
[05:58] <roman-stefan> who has an ac97 here??
[05:58] <_thumper_> !tell me about repositories
[05:58] <mpmc> nothing
[05:58] <g0nk> ooooooooook, well i installed the KDE packages from the Kubuntu cd, and it's still booting into Gnome.. how do I set it as KDE as the default?
[05:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> mpmc: try /msg ubotu repositories
[05:58] <_thumper_> !tell /me about repositories
[05:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> g0nk: on the login screen, theres a'session' option
[05:58] <g0nk> oh..
[05:58] <g0nk> duh
[05:58] <g0nk> heh
[05:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[05:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> _thumper_: no /
[05:59] <roman-stefan> nikkia: do you use an ac97 ?
[05:59] <g0nk> wow! whaddya know! that worked!
[05:59] <g0nk> heh
[05:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[06:00] <mpmc> It wont talk to me.. I need to login <_<
[06:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> mpmc: you need to register your nic?
[06:00] <Kamping_Kaiser>  /msg nickserv help register
[06:00] <nikkia> roman-stefan: yeah, ICH4
[06:00] <mpmc> no reply
[06:00] <nikkia> roman-stefan: driving a SoundMax
[06:00] <ph8> someone please? really stuck -  can't think of anything else to do
[06:00] <ph8> if i remove and readd the printer i get the same situation
[06:01] <roman-stefan> ah so not just intel use/make ac97 ?
[06:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> ubotu: it has been said that sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[06:01] <ubotu> Kamping_Kaiser: I think you lost me on that one
[06:01] <g0nk> hmmm..  seems as though kcontrol still isnt applying my choices.. :(
[06:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> mpmc:  ^^
[06:01] <mpmc> man thats annoying
[06:02] <mpmc> nickserv wont talk <_<
[06:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. strange
[06:02] <mpmc> does it talk to you?
[06:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> night all
[06:03] <_thumper_> Kamping_Kaiser, but it's still early (GMT)
[06:03] <mpmc> <_<
[06:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> _thumper_: yeh, its early... half past one am ;)
[06:03] <mpmc> is nickserv alive????
[06:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm. half an hour before my usual bedtime
[06:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> your right, it is early
[06:14] <aljosa> is there a pon (to activate dsl connection) gui frontend?
[06:15] <mpmc> !tell me about mp3 support
[06:16] <spiral> hi
[06:16] <nikkia> aljosa: did you try kppp ?
[06:16] <mpmc> how do I add mp3 support for amarok?
[06:17] <nikkia> aljosa: i imagine there is a way to tell kppp about existing peer configurations
[06:20] <aljosa> nikkia: isn't kppp for ppp connection? i need to activate pppoe, something else?
[06:20] <nikkia> aljosa: what exactly do you think pon does?
[06:20] <nikkia> aljosa: it calls pppd with the named argument to connect to that peer, the 'ppp' in 'pppoe' is the same ppp :)
[06:21] <nikkia> aljosa: i use pon/poff to start up my VPN's to the various offices for the company i work to, it doesn't mean i'm phoning them on a dial-up modem :)
[06:22] <nikkia> (in that case, its tunneled ppp i'm using)
[06:23] <sartek> hi i have installed firestarter on my kubuntu 5.10 how can i set to start at booting?
[06:29] <seezer> sartek: do you have a /etc/init.d/firestarter or something?
[06:29] <sartek> es
[06:29] <sartek> i have
[06:30] <seezer> then link it to your runlevel dir. like ln -s /etc/init.d/firestarter /etc/rc5.d/S99firestarter
[06:31] <seezer> (with sudo)
[06:31] <seezer> ah - firestarter is a graphical thingy
[06:31] <mpmc> how do I install mp3 support for amarok?
[06:33] <hydrogen> !restrictedformats
[06:33] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[06:33] <hydrogen> mpmc ^
[06:38] <_xuniL> it doesent happening any thing then i editing my kmenu... need help with that..!
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Go dapper!!
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Does Ubuntu still support Lynx?
[06:40] <mpmc> How do I install mp3 codecs so they work in amarok..
[06:41] <Zambba> apt-get install lame
[06:41] <mpmc> erc: Package lame has no installation candidate
[06:41] <Zambba> oh install to gstreamer0.8-lame
[06:41] <_xuniL> mpmc gott it working for me then i installed gstreamer and amarok-gstreamer...
[06:41] <mpmc> it says they aint available
[06:42] <Zambba> mpmc: Do you have multiverse and universe enabled?
[06:42] <mpmc> no
[06:42] <DaSkreech> Does anyone here have lynx installed?
[06:42] <mpmc> Zambba: can you give me the line
[06:43] <DaSkreech> If you don't can You try and install it? apt-get is throwing an uninstallable error for me
[06:43] <Zambba> deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse
[06:43] <Zambba> I have all-in-one ;)
[06:45] <aljosa> kppp can't activate pppoe connection, is there a kde app that activates pppoe connection or pon?
[06:45] <_xuniL> can someone help me i cant change in my kmenu...
[06:46] <DaSkreech> What would make an application uninstallable?
[06:47] <aljosa> DaSkreech: maybe failed installation. try reinstalling with --force option and then uninstall
[06:47] <vonHalenbach> aljosa: Yes Kinternet.
[06:47] <chavo> DaSkreech, no idea it just installed here, although I prefer links for console browsing
[06:47] <aljosa> vonHalenbach: on ubuntu? isn't that suse?
[06:48] <Zambba> Kindernet
[06:48] <vonHalenbach> That was on suse 8.0
[06:48] <aljosa> vonHalenbach: what about kubuntu? i don't like to open shell just so i can go online
[06:49] <vonHalenbach> same with me.
[06:49] <vonHalenbach> that is bugging me.
[06:50] <DaSkreech> chavo: Ah Links That was what I was looking for ;)
[06:50] <chavo> I like to have links for those rare times an update breaks x
[06:50] <aljosa> is there anybody here who connects via pppoe and uses gui to activate connection?
[06:51] <mpmc> At last Music!!!
[06:51] <mpmc> I'm new to Linux :P
[06:51] <chavo> you can play music in Linux too!?!?!?
[06:52] <DaSkreech> chavo: I have a headless server so it comes in nice to test things sometimes
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Wonders never cease. It recognizes speakers too!
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Though that's as true as the statement above :-)
[06:54] <mpmc> !ubotu
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[06:54] <mpmc> !ubotu add
[06:54] <ubotu> I heard add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets
[06:55] <mpmc> !ubotu tell me about add
[06:55] <mpmc> !ubotu help
[06:55] <mpmc> !ubotu
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[06:55] <DaSkreech> mpmc: What are you looking for?
[06:56] <mpmc> apache2-mpm-worker
[06:56] <mpmc> I wanna know a little about it
[06:56] <toby_> Anyone here know much about ssh and sshd?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> !apache
[06:56] <ubotu> hmm... apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[06:57] <mpmc> ooo
[06:57] <nava> could somebody help me to install this iconset http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=13507  its installed with some script which i cant use
[06:57] <mpmc> !apache2-mpm-worker
[06:57] <ubotu> mpmc: I give up, what is it?
[06:57] <mpmc> lol
[06:57] <toby_> I can connect (using putty on Windows) to my ubuntu, and it asks for the username/password as usual. Then, after processing .bash_profile, the connection is closed by ubuntu.
[06:58] <toby_> It's like there's some policy I need to turn off somewhere...
[07:01] <vonHalenbach> toby_: what user tries to log in? root?
[07:03] <toby_> vonHalenbach: not root, no, just my ordinary user
[07:04] <toby_> toby@tobyjr:~/apps/tss2_rc2$ ssh localhost
[07:04] <toby_> toby@localhost's password:
[07:04] <toby_> Linux tobyjr 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:04] <toby_> (echoes from .bash_profile
[07:04] <toby_> Connection to localhost closed.
[07:05] <toby_> I get in, but am immediately dumped out again.
[07:05] <vonHalenbach> toby_:  I know this behavior from suse 8.0
[07:08] <Hering> Hello everybody
[07:08] <toby_> vonHalenbach: Do you remember what caused it?
[07:08] <mpmc> how do I tell chmod what user, I want 777 permissons on a folder?
[07:09] <Hering> Sorry about my english language but could someone help me with the installation of VLC? I am completely new in the world of linux and kubuntu...
[07:09] <vonHalenbach> there was something misconfigured. probably /etc/services
[07:09] <vonHalenbach> I dont know.
[07:10] <Xeef> hello
[07:11] <Xeef> can anybody tell me how to install lib3ds??
[07:11] <vonHalenbach> You have to allow a login on your machine from other hosts.
[07:11] <vonHalenbach> "/etc/allowed.hosts"    or so?
[07:12] <vonHalenbach> hosts.allowed
[07:12] <DaSkreech> So since the dapper drake is apparently a dragon can I assume that it is realted to konqui?
[07:13] <jjesse> isn't a drake a male duck or something like that as well?
[07:13] <DaSkreech> Xeef: Try apt-get install lib3ds
[07:13] <DaSkreech> jjesse: Yeah But it seems that it leans towards being a dragon
[07:14] <Xeef> DaSkreech i tryed..Couldn't find package lib3ds :/
[07:14] <DaSkreech> Xeef: Do you have universe repos?
[07:14] <mpmc> How do I remove a folder and all of its contents?
[07:14] <toby_> vonHalenbach: I have the line 'ssh:all' in my /etc/hosts.allow file
[07:15] <Xeef> DaSkreech repos=??
[07:15] <DaSkreech> Repository
[07:16] <kkathman> afternoon all :)
[07:16] <toby_> How would I go about re-starting sshd? On other distros it is '/etc/init.d/sshd restart', but not on ubuntu it seems
[07:16] <DaSkreech> Xeef: Repository
[07:17] <kkathman> or whatever it is where you are
[07:17] <vonHalenbach> toby_: i dont know. sorry
[07:17] <Xeef> DaSkreech yea..i have..
[07:18] <toby_> vonHalenbach: Okay, thanks.
[07:18] <kkathman> toby_: its the same in Ubuntu
[07:19] <DaSkreech> Xeef: Ummm can you get a deb for the lib?
[07:19] <nikkia> toby_: what you're probably missing, is that [k] ubuntu doesn't install the ssh server by default, only the client, you need to install it :)
[07:19] <mpmc> is there anything like screem for KDE?
[07:19] <Xeef> DaSkreech hmm..i will try to find..
[07:20] <kkathman> Xeef: trying to use AutoCAD?
[07:21] <kkathman> sorry Autodesk
[07:21] <nikkia> mpmc: quanta plus ?
[07:21] <toby_> nikkia: I did install sshd via adept... (took me a moment to realise I had to:) )
[07:21] <toby_> nikkia: I can't see how to restart the daemon though
[07:21] <kkathman> toby_: its what you typed above
[07:21] <Xeef> kkathman no
[07:21] <kkathman> yes
[07:21] <nikkia> toby, if the server is installed, its /etc/init.d/sshd restart   same as every other sysvinitscripts distro
[07:21] <kkathman> right
[07:22] <nikkia> toby, with 'sudo' prepended to the command, of course
[07:22] <kkathman> hey nikkia how are you today?
[07:22] <nikkia> toby, note, the command completer won't find it unless you type the sudo, because bash's command completion is 'smart' like that
[07:22] <nikkia> kkathman: tired, annoyed, etc
[07:22] <kkathman> rofl
[07:23] <Tm_T> :(
[07:23] <bastardkestrel> crap evolution just crashed again
[07:23] <bastardkestrel> im thinking of going to kontact
[07:23] <Tm_T> Kontact <3
[07:23] <nikkia> kkathman: thanks, but no thanks, i don't drink :P
[07:23] <kkathman> sorry nikkia maybe lemonade??
[07:24] <bastardkestrel> Tm_T: hows it working?
[07:24] <kkathman> Tm_T: or Thunderbird
[07:24] <Tm_T> bastardkestrel: very well here, using from svn
[07:24] <bastardkestrel> will any accept outlook pst files somehow?
[07:24] <Tm_T> kkathman: err, Kontact is way _more_ than just mail client
[07:24] <bastardkestrel> i know
[07:24] <bastardkestrel> i used to use it
[07:24] <kkathman> Tm_T: I know I use Kontact too, but not for email tho
[07:25] <bastardkestrel> im just installin kubuntu
[07:25] <bastardkestrel> im using ubuntu at the moment
[07:25] <Tm_T> kkathman: I use it to mail and ... everything it can do
[07:25] <toby_> 'root@tobyjr:/etc/init.d# whereis sshd' yields 'sshd: /usr/sbin/sshd'
[07:25] <kkathman> kewlness Tm_T  :)
[07:26] <toby_> 'root@tobyjr:/etc/init.d# ls /etc/init.d/ | grep ssh' yields just 'ssh'
[07:26] <bastardkestrel> my evolution program crashed then refused to open
[07:26] <bastardkestrel> after that my desktop background dissapeared
[07:26] <toby_> Maybe I need to do some restarting, changing init levels or something, to finalise the sshd install?
[07:26] <bastardkestrel> i used evolution form kubuntu the other day and it crashed then i could not get the ubuntu desktop at all
[07:27] <bastardkestrel> I think is nvidia or xorg
[07:27] <bastardkestrel> when i remove glx much more stable
[07:27] <kkathman> Tm_T: hmm just started Kontact, to try mail again....crashed :(
[07:27] <bastardkestrel> damn dont tell me that
[07:27] <kkathman> I think this is why I dumped it the last time :)
[07:28] <bastardkestrel> what are yo using?
[07:28] <bastardkestrel> thunderbird?
[07:29] <Tm_T> kkathman: yu, broken package
[07:29] <Tm_T> kkathman: I compile it myself
[07:29] <bastardkestrel> is anybody else having graphic problems
[07:30] <bastardkestrel> im scared to do anything work related
[07:30] <Tm_T> I do
[07:30] <bastardkestrel> fuk
[07:30] <bastardkestrel> i may have to go to winblos
[07:30] <Tm_T> can't find out how I can do this background to be even better
[07:30] <Tm_T> maybe more shadow... or reflection!
[07:30] <bastardkestrel> Tm_T: is it a laptop?
[07:30] <Tm_T> nope
[07:30] <bastardkestrel> nvidia
[07:30] <Tm_T> yes
[07:31] <Tm_T> and all working fine here
[07:31] <Tm_T> just need more gimp
[07:31] <bastardkestrel> no crashes
[07:31] <Tm_T> nop
[07:31] <bastardkestrel> cool
[07:31] <bastardkestrel> gimp is nice for design
[07:31] <Tm_T> it's ok
[07:31] <bastardkestrel> i use it to build web sites
[07:32] <Tm_T> I use it to do desktop graphics
[07:32] <nikkia> i use it to sort out the mess that our artists send me :P
[07:33] <bastardkestrel> i cant run nvidia or i get worse crashes, ipw screws up, and windows start to blank
[07:33] <bastardkestrel> but some folks on the forum think its the kernel
[07:34] <Tm_T> I think too
[07:34] <bastardkestrel> what?
[07:34] <bastardkestrel> kernel?
[07:34] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:34] <Tm_T> bastardkestrel: yes
[07:34] <kkathman> Tm_T: uhm...do I need to do anything special in Kontact besides set up an account?
[07:34] <bastardkestrel> hmmm
[07:34] <kkathman> cuz Kontact is doing squat!
[07:34] <Tm_T> kkathman: ?
[07:35] <Tm_T> squat?
[07:35] <kkathman> I click the "Check Mail IN" and NOTHING...absolutely nothing happens
[07:35] <bastardkestrel> anybody know what will read outlook pst files
[07:35] <Tm_T> kkathman: as I said, broken package
[07:35] <kkathman> its what came with kubuntu dude
[07:35] <Tm_T> kkathman: I think at least
[07:35] <kkathman> got updated in the upgrade
[07:35] <Tm_T> kkathman: btw, did you setup your smtp ?
[07:35] <kkathman> yes
[07:36] <kkathman> and the incoming
[07:36] <bastardkestrel> kkathman: make sure to leave messages on server for a while
[07:36] <Tm_T> hmm
[07:36] <kkathman> but when I click the incoming, theres not even a blip
[07:36] <bastardkestrel> kkathman: just in case
[07:36] <kkathman> yah...well I have thunderbird working and it works like a champ
[07:37] <kkathman> this is why I tell people NOT to use Kontact :)  its just as buggy as Kopete :)
[07:37] <bastardkestrel> i like how thunderbird will save kontacts
[07:37] <bastardkestrel> or address book
[07:38] <kkathman> AHA!! nothing serious...you just have to shut the whole program down, bring it up, let it crash, then restart and it works fine now...wow why didnt I think of that procedure
[07:38] <Tm_T> =)
[07:38] <bastardkestrel> if i use thunderbird is there a way to integrate a calendar?
[07:39] <Tm_T> kkathman: to me, Kontact AND Kopete both are very fine
[07:39] <Tm_T> ;)
[07:39] <bastardkestrel> ive always liked kontact
[07:39] <chavo> kontact rocks for me, but I build it from source
[07:39] <kkathman> but you recompile all your apps, too, Tm_T  :)
[07:39] <bastardkestrel> actually starting to like evolution
[07:39] <Tm_T> kkathman: all the time
[07:39] <Almindor> kdevelop/interface designer goes boom
[07:39] <kkathman> yah chavo...thats what I mean...its great for those that actually create their own thing :)
[07:39] <Almindor> is it known?
[07:39] <bastardkestrel> in gnome the calendar on desktop goes to evolution when clciked
[07:39] <Tm_T> kkathman: always using "unstable" versions
[07:40] <kkathman> is there anything that IS stable Tm_T  :)
[07:40] <chavo> I had a problem with it crashing the other day, but traced it to one certain message and spamassassin
[07:40] <kkathman> haha
[07:40] <Tm_T> kkathman: =)
[07:40] <kkathman> Tm_T: another downside of open source... version control :)
[07:41] <Tm_T> kkathman: downside?
[07:41] <chavo> I like akgregator too, and having it all in one window
[07:42] <kkathman> Tm_T: there are upsides too :)
[07:42] <kkathman> Tm_T: sometimes
[07:42] <Tm_T> I can't see any downside in version control
[07:42] <macario> Hola kubunteros!!! Saludos desde Veracruz, Mxico!!
[07:43] <Tm_T> muy bien
[07:43] <kkathman> Tm_T: thats because you havent spent your life in software development :)
[07:43] <Tm_T> kkathman: not yet
[07:43] <kkathman> Tm_T: I dont live a day without it in my business :)
[08:05] <Tm_T> kkathman: starting to be that way now
[08:13] <_jeremy> guys
[08:13] <_jeremy> I've gone back to hoary
[08:14] <frank> _jeremy: from breezy?
[08:14] <_jeremy> I've installed breezy twice, and twice within a few days had an unusable system
[08:14] <_jeremy> I'm not prepared to do it again
[08:15] <frank> _jeremy: It installs fine for most people but if hoary works, great
[08:15] <frank> hoary will have security updates for another year
[08:15] <_jeremy> It installs fine... I don't know whats going on but within a few days of doing a fresh install I've got a system that is hanging during bootup, or KDE is hanging during its startup
[08:16] <_jeremy> I'm not doing anything unusual with it
[08:16] <_jeremy> I can't have a system that I'm afraid to reboot because it might not boot up
[08:17] <_jeremy> KDE's startup is woefully slow too
[08:17] <frank> _jeremy: so it works for a while, then breaks down... very strange...
[08:17] <frank> _jeremy: how much ram do you have?
[08:17] <_jeremy> indeed
[08:17] <_jeremy> 512meg
[08:18] <frank> _jeremy: that's plenty for kde. the startup should be reasonable
[08:18] <_jeremy> its an abortion
[08:18] <_jeremy> sorry but thats whats happening
[08:19] <frank> I mean kde in hoary and breezy are almost identical!
[08:19] <_jeremy> never had a problem with hoary that wasn't my own fault
[08:19] <frank> there most be some root cause to this in breezy
[08:19] <_jeremy> I noticed that if you try 'failsafe' mode it uses Konsole
[08:20] <_jeremy> that was unusable too
[08:20] <frank> _jeremy: did you ever look at dmesg in breezy?
[08:20] <_jeremy> couldnt
[08:20] <_jeremy> couldn't do anything
[08:20] <_jeremy> cactus
[08:21] <frank> _jeremy: what about booting in safe mode in grub?
[08:21] <_jeremy> how ?
[08:21] <_jeremy> besides, it seems to be a serious problem
[08:22] <frank> _jeremy: did you see the boot menu, when you booted?
[08:22] <_jeremy> in x ?
[08:22] <frank> no, the very first thing you see. Grub loading stage 1.5 or something
[08:23] <frank> hit esc there and you can go in safe mode
[08:23] <_jeremy> I cant remember, I've already reinstalled hoary
[08:23] <frank> _jeremy: its a bit late to try ;-)
[08:23] <_jeremy> but I cant get online to talk to anyone to fix it anyway with a system that wont start up properly
[08:25] <_jeremy> everything seems fine at first, though kde's startup is a little slower... but after a few days - it either wont boot up or hangs during kde's startup. You can try 'failsafe mode', but its anything but failsafe as its reliance on a kde component seems to render that useless too
[08:26] <ph8> hi all, i'm really struggling with this and would appreciate all help: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=444867#post444867
[08:26] <_jeremy> after it did it again... I simply wasnt willing to risk it again
[08:27] <_lex> Hi ik ben nieuw op irc net   Mag ik gewoon typen in het neederlands hier?
[08:27] <_lex> nederlands
[08:27] <_toby> Any idea why I can only ssh to localhost as root, and if I do it as my user, the session is closed? My user is a member of the ssh group.
[08:27] <rikva> _lex: #kubuntu-nl :)
[08:27] <_jeremy> I'm just really dissappointed
[08:28] <_lex> daar ben ik alleen
[08:28] <rikva> _lex: kom daar even langs door /join #kubuntu-nl te typen, het is daar niet leeg, ik zit er ook
[08:28] <_lex> ben er al ingeloged als fastelbow
[08:28] <rikva> _lex: nope
[08:29] <rikva> _lex: misschien ben je in de war met ubuntu-nl
[08:30] <sephora> Is this a chanal fore Dutch speaking people only? I'm caling from Norway.
[08:30] <frank> sephora: this is an English channel
[08:33] <sephora> frank: My name is John. I am a teacher who is trying to prepare this computer with kubuntu for one of my young students. Here name is Sephora an she is 11 years old.  I have put in Open Office but I would like to give her som enice games. Do you know how to do that?
[08:34] <_thumper_> ph8, sorry, don't have that type of printer :(
[08:34] <frank> sephora: do you know how to use adept?
[08:34] <jpatrick> sephora: kdegames are nice
[08:34] <sephora> No I dont.
[08:35] <jpatrick> sephora: K-Menu then System it should be there
[08:35] <ubuntu> hi there
[08:36] <jpatrick> ubuntu: hi
[08:36] <_toby> FYI, I have solved the sshd problem if anyone was following.
[08:37] <_jeremy> I'm gonna try breezy one more time
[08:37] <_jeremy> Im gonna see what happens if I dont update at all
[08:37] <_thumper_> I have a question about nvidia device options in xorg.conf if anyone knows about them...
[08:38] <_jeremy> I remember there was a problem when I first used hoary: updating turned my system to cactus... so I'm going to try it for a week and keep an eye on bootup etc... no updates and see what happens
[08:39] <ubuntu> i use the live-cd of kubuntu and have the problem, that i cant see my partitions of the harddisc, can someon give me a solution please?
[08:40] <jpatrick> ubuntu: you could try using the Disks & Filesystems module in System Settings
[08:40] <ubuntu> where can i find that...sorry, i'm a newby ;)
[08:41] <jpatrick> ubuntu: K-Menu then System Settings
[08:41] <ubuntu> k thx i try this
[08:41] <ubuntu> mom
[08:42] <jpatrick> ubuntu: you should see a Disks & Filesystem icon
[08:42] <ubuntu> k i see my disc but i cant select it
[08:42] <jpatrick> Admin mode...
[08:43] <ubuntu> k now i can select it but cant enable it...
[08:44] <ubuntu> how can i mount the discs
[08:44] <ubuntu> ?
[08:45] <frank> ubuntu: try kbuildsycoca in a console. then try system settings again
[08:47] <ubuntu> frank: i did that but that doesnt solve my problem
[08:48] <frank> ubuntu you try to go to administrator and it does nothing?
[08:49] <ubuntu> i changed to the admin mode, then i could select the discs but i couldnt enable them
[08:49] <Tm_T> yu
[08:49] <Tm_T> ubuntu: fstab
[08:49] <ubuntu> in the console?
[08:50] <Tm_T> :(
[08:50] <Tm_T> !fstab
[08:50] <ubotu> fstab is, like, /etc/fstab is a real pain for new users. The fstab file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the winmac_fstab file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab  See <partitions>.
[08:50] <Tm_T> it is real pain at first time
[08:50] <Tm_T> but when you learn it, it helps a lot
[08:52] <sephora> trying adept now. Something is happening.
[08:52] <sephora> Tryeing adept now.
[08:53] <ubuntu> perhaps when running the live-cd i cant enable my harddiscs ??
[08:54] <Tm_T> you can
[08:54] <Tm_T> !tell about mount to ubuntu
[08:54] <Tm_T> :(
[08:54] <Tm_T> !mount
[08:54] <ubotu> somebody said mount was the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[08:54] <Tm_T> ubuntu: does that help a bit?
[08:54] <sephora> After all the uploading of packages with adept. What do I do then?
[08:55] <ubuntu> mom i try
[08:58] <ubuntu> that doesnt help me...can please someone explain it in detail, cause i'm a newby, sorry
[08:59] <frank> sephora: type kdegames in the quick search
[09:07] <sephora> frank: I have marked all the packages I want and Instaled them... I think
[09:10] <vonHalenbach> sephora: If you are sure. Then press the button "commit changes"
[09:10] <sephora> It worked out!
[09:11] <sephora> On my other skolelinux/Kde computer I have this icon who gives me me my home-files. How to find that one here in kubuntu?
[09:12] <sephora> I mean my home catalog
[09:12] <frank> sephora: click the konqueror button (bottom right) then home folder
[09:12] <zyn> the button next to the k-menu opens a menu which has a home folder item
[09:13] <frank> sephora: sorry bottome left
[09:13] <vonHalenbach> sephora: You can add a link on your dektop.
[09:14] <vonHalenbach> desktop
[09:14] <sephora> I thouht so as well, but I cant fint it there. Should it look like a house?
[09:14] <vonHalenbach> Yes
[09:15] <sephora> It is not there
[09:16] <frank> sephora: click the konqueror button first, the 3rd icon from the left I think
[09:17] <sephora> I have been using kde fore 2 years. I think I know what I am looking fore.
[09:17] <sephora> Do you mean that i schold use Kon... to find the files ?
[09:18] <dmlinux> hey guys , thinking of making the switch from gnome to KDE
[09:19] <dmlinux> if i apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will it keep all my settings, AND have that nice kubuntu login splash screen as well as load screen,  etc
[09:19] <kaveh> question: why can't I do 'su -p'
[09:19] <kaveh> is there an equivalent sudo command?
[09:20] <kaveh> need to keep my HOME dir variable
[09:20] <dmlinux> anyone?
[09:21] <dmlinux> anyone here? seems like a ghost town
[09:21] <Tm_T> dmlinux: ofcourse it keep your settings
[09:21] <dmlinux> tm_T so all of my installs will still be there, flash, etc
[09:21] <Tm_T> yu
[09:21] <sephora> thanks for all your help! John at www.haldenfriskole.no
[09:22] <dmlinux> Tm_T is there a way to make KDE have the two panels , one on top one on bottom, like gnome ? thats the one feature that has kept me in gnome so far
[09:22] <jpatrick> dmlinux: yes
[09:22] <frank> dmlinux: yes installing kubuntu-desktop adds programs, it doesn't remove anything
[09:22] <dmlinux> jpatrick SWEET, ok going to install kubuntu really quick
[09:22] <Tm_T> :(
[09:23] <kaveh> i can't use export with sudo to set my home dir
[09:23] <Tm_T> making KDE look & act like Gnome is like bashing head off from a racehorse
[09:23] <Juerd> I could read chunks of memory through /dev/sdb
[09:23] <tarheelcoxn> Tm_T: hey now... calm
[09:23] <Tm_T> =)
[09:23] <Tm_T> tarheelcoxn: what
[09:24] <tarheelcoxn> some people like (and use) both
[09:24] <kaveh> i'm trying to install a sound scheme from http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12584
[09:24] <Tm_T> tarheelcoxn: true, but that was my opinion
[09:24] <kaveh> i can't follow the install directions because i can't perform 'su -p'
[09:24] <kaveh> is there anyway around this?
[09:24] <Tm_T> sudo
[09:24] <kaveh> sudo doesn't keep my HOME variable to /home/kaveh
[09:25] <kaveh> sudo export HOME=/home/kaveh && sh install.sh
[09:25] <kaveh> gives me==> sudo: export: command not found
[09:25] <frank> sudo's home is probably /root
[09:26] <kaveh> i know
[09:26] <Tm_T> :(
[09:26] <tarheelcoxn> kaveh: you don't need the export
[09:26] <tarheelcoxn> just HOME=/blah sudo sh install.sh
[09:26] <kaveh> oh so just==> sudo HOME=/home/kaveh && sh install.sh
[09:26] <tarheelcoxn> you don't need && either
[09:26] <kaveh> oh ok
[09:26] <dmlinux> im excited, KDE was really cool
[09:26] <tarheelcoxn> try it that way
[09:26] <dmlinux> so many features, more than gnome
[09:27] <kaveh> with or without the &&?
[09:27] <tarheelcoxn> without the &&
[09:27] <Tm_T> dmlinux: not cool, just better in every way ;)
[09:27] <dmlinux> tm_t i think its cool :)
[09:27] <Tm_T> dmlinux: http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_075.png
[09:27] <dmlinux> TM_t gnome has a clean look KDE is a little more "dirty" but its packed with features, i still love it
[09:27] <kaveh> the damn script keeps trying to install to /home/root
[09:28] <kaveh> that doesn't even exist
[09:28] <kaveh> it must be using the username variable
[09:28] <dmlinux> tm_t thats yours?
[09:28] <tarheelcoxn> kaveh: what script is this?
[09:28] <Tm_T> dmlinux: yu
[09:28] <kaveh> tarheelcoxn: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12584
[09:28] <tarheelcoxn> kaveh: why not edit the script, hard-coding /home/kaveh into it?
[09:28] <kaveh> ok fine :-)
[09:28] <dmlinux> TM_t i dont like the transparent, i like windows running on my desktop , makes me appreciate my wallpaper when i see it hehe
[09:29] <Tm_T> :)
[09:29] <kaveh> hahaha i was right the script uses $USER
[09:29] <dmlinux> Tm_t http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/Kahrgan/Screenshot.jpg
[09:30] <dmlinux> is there a synaptic in KDE i couldnt find it when i was on liveCD
[09:30] <jpatrick> dmlinux: Adept
[09:30] <dmlinux> jpatrick ah
[09:31] <mornfall> one day people will ask if there's something like adept in gnome... hah
[09:31] <kaveh> yeah Adept
[09:31] <kaveh> true
[09:31] <jpatrick> Adept rocks
[09:31] <dmlinux> well i was new to linux as of ubuntu breezy preview, so gnome is the only thing i knew
[09:31] <kaveh> why is gnome the deafault for ubuntu?
[09:32] <sephora> Is it dificult fore me to install mplayer on this kubuntocomputer?
[09:32] <Tm_T> kaveh: I really don't know
[09:32] <kaveh> why isn't the fork gubuntu?
[09:32] <dmlinux> is there a starterbar for superkaramba?
[09:32] <jpatrick> kaveh: there a no forks
[09:32] <tarheelcoxn> kaveh: ubuntu is aimed at people all over the world--people all over the world have older hardware that can't make KDE as pretty as it should be
[09:32] <kaveh> seriously, i would never install GNOME
[09:32] <kaveh> no offense to its users
[09:33] <Tm_T> kaveh: it's good to test it sometimes
[09:33] <mornfall> tarheelcoxn: especially given kde is no slower than gnome, that's not very valid :)
[09:33] <dmlinux> kaveh i really like gnome, but Kubuntu went so much better in the way of configs
[09:33] <Tm_T> kaveh: so you know why you don't USE it ;)
[09:33] <kaveh> tarheelcoxn: so GNOME can look prettier on older hardware?
[09:33] <tarheelcoxn> mornfall: I'd love to see what you're basing that on
[09:34] <tarheelcoxn> kaveh: gnome isn't pretty
[09:34] <kaveh> Tim_T: i use KDE at home and at school they use GNOME on Solaris
[09:34] <dmlinux> tarheelcoxn http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/Kahrgan/Screenshot.jpg
[09:34] <tarheelcoxn> I'm just saying that KDE looks and behaves best on new(ish) hardware,
[09:34] <kaveh> tarheelcoxn: so why can't they have a stripped down version of KDE when the hardware is old?
[09:35] <mornfall> tarheelcoxn: well, urban folklore :)
[09:35] <tarheelcoxn> kaveh: good question
[09:35] <kaveh> tarheelcoxn: as far as desktop use is concerned i just don't understand why go with GNOME, if we want linux for human beings that is
[09:35] <mornfall> tarheelcoxn: from people running both kde and gnome
[09:35] <kaveh> i wonder how the ubuntun people feel about this
[09:36] <dmlinux> i finally want amaroK to run natively :)
[09:36] <tarheelcoxn> mornfall: which would include me, and my experience has been that KDE's bells and whistles aren't usable on older hardware
[09:36] <tarheelcoxn> but I like the bells and whistles, so I use KDE on my computers that can handle it
[09:36] <kaveh> is the main dev team married to GNOME? i think that it wouldn't be that hard to switch the mane dist to KDE and have a GNOME fork
[09:36] <dmlinux> i tell you what tho , KDE has a lot more apps going for it
[09:36] <mornfall> tarheelcoxn: depends on what you call bells and whistles
[09:37] <Zambba> gnome sucks ;)
[09:37] <tarheelcoxn> kaveh: subscribe to the dev list and lurk for awhile... maybe then you can report back to us
[09:37] <jpatrick> kaveh: there are no forks...
[09:37] <tarheelcoxn> :)
[09:37] <kaveh> jpatrick: i know but i forget the proper term, is it project?
[09:37] <tarheelcoxn> ubotu: #kubuntu-offtopic?
[09:37] <mornfall> tarheelcoxn: and kde takes less memory than gnome+mozilla anyway ;-)
[09:37] <ubotu> tarheelcoxn: No idea
[09:38] <tarheelcoxn> honestly fellas, I feel like I'm pulling the channel waaaay off the proper signal/noise
[09:39] <tarheelcoxn> if you want a defense of the use of gnome as the default for ubuntu, go ask an ubuntu developer
[09:39] <tarheelcoxn> I am a humble user
[09:39] <kaveh> yeah i'll stop now, i was just wondering
[09:40] <mornfall> oh well, there never was much signal in there
[09:40] <tarheelcoxn> :P
[09:40] <kaveh> it wouldn't matter so much if it just weren't for the fact that most of the Wiki and the documentation assumes GNOME
[09:41] <tomplast> hi people
[09:41] <tomplast> does anyone knows how to get a Pinnacle PCTV Stereo card working in Kubuntu?
[09:41] <tarheelcoxn> tomplast: greetings
[09:41] <kaveh> i just want to read about how to do equivalent stuff that i see posted in the wiki for ubuntu users in kubuntu
[09:41] <tarheelcoxn> kaveh: here is a good place to ask
[09:41] <tarheelcoxn> even better, if you figure it out, add to the wiki!
[09:42] <tarheelcoxn> tomplast: did it work in ubuntu?
[09:42] <kaveh> tarheelcoxn: thanks i just wish there was a seperate wiki for kubuntu, or should each topic in the wiki have an ubuntu and kubuntu section?
[09:42] <tarheelcoxn> and not in kubuntu?
[09:42] <tarheelcoxn> kaveh: only if there is a substantive difference
[09:43] <tarheelcoxn> and (relatively speaking) there aren't that many issues that _are_ different
[09:43] <kaveh> tarheelcoxn: ok i'll keep that in mind, thanks again
[09:43] <tarheelcoxn> :) np
[09:43] <tomplast> tarheelcoxn: i dont remember
[09:43] <tomplast> tarheelcoxn: in any case i want to run kubuntu and not ubuntu
[09:43] <tomplast> i dont like gnome :/
[09:43] <kaveh> haha
[09:44] <tomplast> it worked in Mandriva :/
[09:48] <dm> how do i get to firefox from KDE ?
[09:49] <kaveh> Adept --> Quick Filter= "firefox"
[09:49] <kaveh> Install Package, Commit Changes
[09:49] <dm> where do i find Adept ?
[09:50] <mornfall> somewhere on the k menu... hopefully
[09:50] <kaveh> K Menu --> System --> Package Manager (Adept)
[09:50] <g0nk> alt-spacebar -> type in Adept -> hit enter ??  (newbie here, dont kill me if im wrong
[09:51] <kaveh> why won't my sounds in the System Notifications work?
[09:51] <kaveh> i don't get any sounds
[09:51] <kaveh> when the events occur
[09:51] <g0nk> speakers on/
[09:51] <kaveh> yes
[09:51] <kaveh> i hear sounds when i preview them
[09:51] <g0nk> well, that's the extent of my tech help.. :)
[09:51] <dm> kaveh ive got firefox, but from KDE i cant see where to use it
[09:52] <kaveh> oh
[09:52] <kkathman> afternoon again all..back after a brief absence :)
[09:53] <kaveh> is it under K Menu --> Internet --> Web Browser (Firefox Web Browser)??
[09:53] <kaveh> any one get their system notifications working?
[09:53] <kkathman> kaveh: what system notifications?
[09:53] <libben> dm: is it in there ?
[09:53] <kaveh> under system properties
[09:54] <kaveh> Sound & Multimedia --> System Notifications
[09:54] <kaveh> none of the sounds will play when the events occur
[09:54] <dm> yep its there !
[09:54] <kkathman> system properties?
[09:54] <kaveh> dm: cool
[09:55] <kaveh> kkathman: K Menu --> System Properties --> Sound & Multimedia --> System Notifications
[09:55] <kkathman> you do have it all activated right?
[09:55] <dm> KDE = so pretty , *googly eyes*
[09:55] <kkathman> i.e. for each event
[09:55] <at1as> Is anyone else using Cisco's VPN Client on Kubuntu?
[09:55] <kaveh> different events have the Play a sound option checked
[09:55] <g0nk> at1as: holy crap i would like to know that as well..
[09:55] <kkathman> Apply to All Applications
[09:56] <at1as> ?
[09:56] <kaveh> i also selected Apply to all applications under the Quick Controls section and clicked the Turn On All for Sounds
[09:56] <kkathman> and then for each application at the top right?
[09:56] <etilico> hello!, someone have a correct version of skype .deb?
[09:57] <kkathman> there's a drop down box up there, otherwise you just configure for akregator or whatever is first
[09:57] <kaveh> kkathman: i take it back, the KMail event worked, it seems that none of "The KDE Window Manager" events seem to trigger sounds
[09:58] <kkathman> etilico: skype just released a brand new version in fact, to fix a security issue. You may have to get that from their site.
[09:58] <at1as> Is g0nk a bot or whaT?
[09:58] <kkathman> not a bot I think he's real.
[09:59] <kkathman> but ya never know for sure
[09:59] <at1as> hmmm... I'm trying to figure out just what his last message really means..?
[09:59] <at1as> Is anyone else using Cisco's VPN Client on Kubuntu?
[09:59] <hussam> was somebody here asking earlier about kppp and krinternet?
[10:00] <kkathman> kaveh: My guess is that you configured just Kmail...and not the rest of the applications...go to the top of that screen and pull down each application.
[10:01] <kaveh> kkathman: by configure do you mean have events that play a sound is checked? and a sound selected?
[10:04] <kkathman> kaveh yes for each application you can pull down at the top.
[10:04] <kkathman> you could, kaveh , go to each app and turn the notifications on there also
[10:05] <kaveh> well thats all done maybe i need to restart KDE
[10:05] <kaveh> anyway, is there a package for superkaramba or does one have to complie from source?
[10:05] <kkathman> kaveh: yep you can apt-get install superkaramba
[10:06] <kkathman> well of course put a sudo in front of that
[10:06] <kaveh> does superkaramba give you a OS X style bar at the bottom? are there good applications that do this? i would want more functionality than the OS X bar
[10:06] <kaveh> i tried one and it sucke
[10:06] <kaveh> sucked*
[10:07] <kkathman> kaveh no, basically it manages python transparent applets on your desktop primarily for system status and weather
[10:07] <kkathman> the kicker has plenty of configuration to make something close to an OS X bar
[10:07] <kkathman> just go to the system settings and configure the Mail Panel
[10:08] <kaveh> is the kicker the current task bar at the bottom of KDE?
[10:08] <kaveh> or is that different?
[10:08] <kkathman> kaveh: yes
[10:09] <kkathman> kicker = task bar at bottom, but you can move it anywhere...left, right, top or bottom, and even put more task bars
[10:09] <kaveh> kkathman: i like the ticker now and i have it very customized, i just want the look to be more like OS X with magnification, etc
[10:09] <kkathman> I have two in fact
[10:09] <kkathman> kaveh - no it wont do they...thats kinda klugey anyway in my opinion...but no magnification
[10:09] <kkathman> you can always go buy a Mac to get that
[10:10] <kaveh> kkathman: you misunderstand, i don't want a mac
[10:10] <kkathman> $2700 for an OS X bar that magnifies might be a good price for someone that really needs that
[10:11] <kaveh> kkathman: i have seen applications that do this, i was wondering if someone had tried a good one
[10:11] <kaveh> kkathman: hell they have applications that do it in Windows for crying out loud
[10:11] <kkathman> not me, its hardly that important to me to chase that down...Superkaramba is not it tho
[10:12] <kkathman> I want my tool bar to be as small as I can get it with as little space as possible
[10:12] <kaveh> ok here is a better question: what cool and usable addtions can one make to default kubuntu installation, other than customizing the kicker
[10:13] <kaveh> i notice superkaramba is one
[10:13] <kaveh> what little apps do people use for it
[10:13] <kaveh> etc
[10:13] <slow-motion_> n8
[10:14] <kaveh> also what is the diff between superkaramba and karamba? should i have both or just one, and if so which?
[10:14] <kkathman> kaveh: there is so much customizing the look and feel of kubuntu, that I doubt anyone could finish it in years...but Im sure there are other KDE add ins, but who knows if they are stable or not. Superkaramba is stable for the most part, but fairly boring in its selection
[10:15] <kaveh> kkathman: the reason that there are so many is why i'm asking what people here use/like
[10:15] <kkathman> kaveh: I'd just experiment with the settings. Try everything
[10:16] <kkathman> it would probably take you a while just to work through all the themes, styles, colors, and other appearance settings :)
[10:16] <kkathman> use multiple desktops..each one can have its own background
[10:17] <kkathman> I have 9
[10:17] <kaveh> kkathman: i've done all that for days, i'm looking to go beyond what is there in KDE by default
[10:18] <kkathman> besides the OSX thing, what did you have in mind?
[10:18] <kkathman> kaveh: have you been to kde-look.org?
[10:19] <dm> What format do i need to download for installing new ICONS
[10:21] <kaveh> kkathman: just recently
[10:22] <alessio> alguien que habla castellano?
[10:22] <kaveh> kkathman: well i just tried my first superkaramba theme and it crashed
[10:22] <rikva> !it
[10:22] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[10:23] <alessio> argentinos hay?
[10:23] <tarheelcoxn> ubotu: tell alessio about spanish
[10:23] <rikva> !es ?
[10:23] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:23] <tarheelcoxn> rikva: castellano is spanish, not italian
[10:24] <tarheelcoxn> :)
[10:24] <rikva> sorry, his landcode is .it :p
[10:24] <tarheelcoxn> _there_ you go
[10:24] <tarheelcoxn> ahhhh
[10:25] <alessio> scusate....ma fra 20 giorni mi trasferisco a Buenos Aires...per questo chiedevo
[10:27] <rikva> o..k
[10:28] <tarheelcoxn> rikva: he's moving from italy to argentina
[10:28] <tarheelcoxn> he was apologizing for the confusion
[10:29] <rikva> ah :)
[10:30] <kkathman> kaveh: which superkaramba theme?
[10:30] <dm> What format do Icon sets need to be in
[10:32] <dm> Anyone know?
[10:37] <libben> http://p099.ezboard.com/fjjboardfrm12.showMessage?topicID=92956.topic
[10:37] <libben> wish he would make a kubuntu wallpaper for us =)
[10:42] <kkathman> libben those are awesome arent they?
[10:43] <libben> u bet, now find this man and show him some penguins
[10:46] <_jeremy> !repositories
[10:46] <ubotu> [sources]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[10:47] <jubei> is it possible to upgrade from hoary to breezy using apt-get?
[10:49] <rikva> jubei: yes but not recommended
[10:49] <jubei> ok
[10:53] <dm> What format do i need to download for installing new ICONS
[10:53] <nalioth> dm: the can be xpm or png, i believe
[10:53] <dm> nalioth the icon theme?
[10:53] <dm> nalioth im looking to install a theme, not one at a time
[10:53] <nalioth> themes, i'm not sure of
[10:53] <dm> nalioth sigh no one knows,.
[10:54] <nalioth> dm: have you been to the kde forums? or kubuntu forums?
[10:54] <dm> nalioth whats the URL for kdeforums.com??
[10:55] <dm> nalioth o nm
[10:55] <kkathman> Ahhh the Grand Wizard nalioth appears!!! greetings oh wise one ;)
[10:56] <nalioth> kkathman: shush, professor kkathman
[10:56] <kkathman> ROFL
[10:56] <kkathman> yes sir !
[10:57] <dm> nalioth no one says :(
[10:57] <dm> nalioth i had an icon set for Gnome, but for some reason i cant get it to work in KDE
[10:58] <dm> nalioth might of found it..
[10:59] <nalioth> dm: i dont think gnome icon themes will work in kde
[11:00] <navitux> exit
[11:00] <navitux> quit
[11:02] <rr_> anyone chatting?
[11:02] <nalioth> rr_: chat in #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:03] <nalioth> rr_: help is in here (giving or receiving)
[11:04] <rr_> nalioth thanks I mainly wanted to see discussions about problems and solutions to breezy
[11:04] <nalioth> hang out, they will happen
[11:05] <rr_> I upgraded to kde3.5 v2 and so far it's working good, just had a few minor bumbs along the way
[11:05] <flixor> hya everybody
[11:05] <rr_> hi fixor
[11:05] <flixor> kkathman: hy evening
[11:05] <flixor> so how are things overhere
[11:06] <rr_> great with kubuntu
[11:06] <flixor> yes its great rr_
[11:07] <flixor> btw wich bittorrent client are you people using
[11:08] <rr_> is bittorent normally slow?
[11:08] <flixor> it depends on how many seeds there are
[11:08] <flixor> somethimes its very very fast
[11:08] <nalioth> rr_: i use console + ncureses bittornado
[11:08] <rr_> I've tried it but it was way too slow, I end up going direct
[11:10] <flixor> ehm go btw nalioth i found out that when i use ktorrent or qtorrent that my internet browsing becomes very slow do you expernce the same thing
[11:11] <nalioth> ktorrent sucks
[11:11] <nalioth> it's still quite buggy
[11:11] <nalioth> pardon my french
[11:11] <flixor> well i have the same problem with qtorrent
[11:11] <nalioth> try bittornado-gui
[11:11] <flixor> kee
[11:12] <rr_> is Konversation able to dock/integrate into Konqueror
[11:12] <rexykik> anyone know much about doing thin client booting on ltsp? When I boot a terminal I seem to get to xdm on the terminal, but when I logon my x server just restarts, which makes me believe that it is a local X session rather than booting from the X-server of the ltsp server.
[11:15] <flixor> nalioth: what is the command for starting the program
[11:15] <flixor> nevermind
[11:15] <kaveh> what is YaKuake????
[11:15] <nalioth> flixor: what is the command for starting it?
[11:15] <flixor> bitornado
[11:15] <flixor> but i already found it
[11:16] <teprrr> kaveh, try google
[11:16] <teprrr> kaveh, quake like console
[11:18] <flixor> ehm i am running it right now but i have the same problem with browsing the internet with a torrent downloading
[11:18] <flixor> i dont have the problem when downloading via apt-get
[11:18] <flixor> strange nalioth
[11:18] <nalioth> what problems are those, flixor ?
[11:19] <kaveh> teprrr: console as in konsole?
[11:19] <flixor> whenever i download with bittorent my browsing becomes very slow
[11:19] <flixor> when i do a ping to for example to goole i normaly have a response of 8 9 ms but with bittorent downloading it becomes something around 850-900 ms
[11:20] <nalioth> oh yes, bt will HOG your b/w
[11:20] <nalioth> lemme help you with that
[11:20] <flixor> kee
[11:20] <nalioth> flixor: http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/cmdline.shtml
[11:20] <flixor> so there is a solution
[11:20] <nalioth> start it with a limiting flag
[11:20] <flixor> let me take a look at that
[11:21] <nalioth> i dont allow my bt to upload more than 15KB/s
[11:21] <eGaTS> quick newbie question. any takers?
[11:22] <nalioth> eGaTS: you have to ask to take
[11:22] <eGaTS> lol
[11:22] <nalioth> just ask
[11:22] <eGaTS> trying to compile a gimp plugin
[11:22] <eGaTS> when i try to make, it tells me gcc isn't in $PATH
[11:23] <flixor> but nalioth my bt is not uploading anything
[11:23] <flixor> its only downloading
[11:23] <teprrr> kaveh, yup
[11:23] <flixor> and then my bandwitch is crushed
[11:23] <teprrr> kaveh, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29153
[11:23] <nalioth> flixor: you can set d/l speed u/l speed read the page
[11:24] <eGaTS> i'm not familiar with the linux directories. where would i look for gcc?
[11:25] <nalioth> eGaTS: you'll have to install "build-essential"
[11:25] <eGaTS> hmm... ok. i already installed gcc though. should i remove it first?
[11:26] <tarheelcoxn> eGaTS: where'd you get it?
[11:26] <tarheelcoxn> eGaTS: did you install it with Adept?
[11:26] <eGaTS> one of the default repositories
[11:26] <tarheelcoxn> ahh
[11:27] <eGaTS> yes
[11:27] <tarheelcoxn> then no, don't bother uninstalling
[11:27] <nikki_a> hmmmm
[11:27] <nalioth> eGaTS: nope, install 'build-essential'  apt-get / adept is smart enough to add whats missing
[11:27] <eGaTS> k
[11:28] <eGaTS> another thing-- i added universe and multiverse, and now adept is spitting out tons of errors
[11:28] <nalioth> eGaTS: like what? (and dont paste in here)
[11:28] <tarheelcoxn> !gpg-err
[11:28] <ubotu> tarheelcoxn: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:28] <tarheelcoxn> !gpg
[11:28] <ubotu> methinks gpg is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[11:28] <eGaTS> tell ya in a sec.
[11:29] <nalioth> !gpgerr
[11:29] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[11:30] <eGaTS> it's a whole bunch of "Couldn't stat source package list..." errors
[11:31] <nalioth> eGaTS: try again later
[11:31] <eGaTS> so does that mean the packages i committed didn't get installed?
[11:32] <eGaTS> it really does say "stat" (not start, as i originally thought)
[11:32] <seth_k|lappy> eGaTS, make sure you reload the package lists
[11:33] <eGaTS> how?
[11:33] <seth_k|lappy> click the "recycle" arrows if using Adept
[11:33] <eGaTS> k
[11:33] <seth_k|lappy> or "sudo apt-get update" if using the command line
[11:33] <seth_k|lappy> eGaTS, the errors were not because your sources were corrupt
[11:33] <seth_k|lappy> it was simply because you added repos (universe and multiverse)
[11:33] <seth_k|lappy> and did not add them from the server
[11:34] <eGaTS> k. thanks
[11:34] <seth_k|lappy> the "couldn't stat source package list" means that you've never loaded that particular list before
[11:34] <seth_k|lappy> from the server
[11:34] <seth_k|lappy> You should run an update (the recycle arrows) every so often to get fresh lists of what software is available from the server
[11:35] <nikki_a> nalioth: evening! :)
[11:35] <seth_k|lappy> Yayyyyyyyy my Alps scrolling works again! :D
[11:35] <seth_k|lappy> and tap to drag!
[11:35] <nalioth> nikki_a: howdy stranger
[11:36] <nikki_a> nalioth: stranger?
[11:36] <eGaTS> one of the breezy-security packages had an error
[11:36] <nikki_a> nalioth: /me == nikkia on laptop
[11:36] <Tm_T> :(
[11:36] <nalioth> nikki ah   not quite nikkia
[11:37] <nikki_a> nalioth: and nickserv's info on me should confirm that its a linked nick, if you don't trust me :P
[11:38] <flixor> ehm nalioth it doesnt have effect
[11:38] <nalioth> nikki ah, i know who you are and you are great!
[11:38] <flixor> anyway we look into that later
[11:38] <nalioth> flixor: choose a lower number
[11:38] <flixor> yes i choose already the settings for a dial-up modem and i am on a adsl connection
[11:39] <flixor> so i dont think that is the problem
[11:39] <flixor> btw what kinds of fonts are you using in your mozilla because my fonts look a bit ugly after i changed them
[11:41] <kkathman> hey there flixor :)
[11:41] <flixor> hya kkathman how are  you doing
[11:42] <kkathman> fine fine...and you flixor  :)
[11:42] <flixor> well still finding out kubuntu and the wonders called linu
[11:42] <flixor> x
[11:42] <flixor> and i must admist i like it very much
[11:42] <kkathman> well thats a journey that just keeps on finding a new horizon!
[11:42] <flixor> it works good with minor problems but we getting there
[11:43] <flixor> yes i know, i am a bit worried about that lol
[11:43] <flixor> my girlfriend is already complaining
[11:43] <kkathman> yah there are always minor problems...thats just the world of open source...but its not so bad
[11:43] <kkathman> complaining???
[11:43] <flixor> yeah i am spending to much time behind the computer
[11:43] <kkathman> haha
[11:44] <flixor> yeah well anyway i bought i very nice book today about linux
[11:44] <kkathman> which one?
[11:44] <flixor> its called the Linu Administration Handbook
[11:44] <flixor> by evi Nemeth Gart Snyder and Trent R Hein
[11:44] <kkathman> thats a good one to have...I have the "Linux Bible", which is quite good
[11:44] <kkathman> by Christopher Negus
[11:45] <flixor> i love it already doing command line thinks etc etc
[11:45] <kkathman> there is a Debian book online that you might find helpful
[11:45] <flixor> i am chatting right now via irssi from the console
[11:45] <flixor> what is the name of that book
[11:45] <kkathman> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/
[11:46] <nalioth> flixor: you rock, dude!
[11:46] <kkathman> as far as I can tell the whole book is there
[11:46] <flixor> cool kkathman and thanks nalioth
[11:47] <nalioth> kkathman: please mister
[11:48] <Tm_T> =)
[11:48] <Tm_T> kids
[11:48] <Tm_T> no thank you, I'm on drugs
[11:49] <kkathman> lol
[11:49] <Tm_T> not that kind of drugs thank you
[11:49] <kkathman> rofl..jk
[11:51] <kkathman> flixor: Heres another good reference...its the IBM self-training site for Linux Certification...an excellent resource and teaching aid:  http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/lpi/?S_TACT=105AGX03&S_CMP=ZHP
[11:51] <flixor> kee thanks
[11:51] <flixor> i must bookmark this one because the otherone looks very very good
[11:52] <blackflag> hello all :-)
[11:52] <kkathman> doesnt cost anything, and its pretty comprehensive
[11:52] <blackflag> I have  avnc problem
[11:53] <eGaTS> wow. this compiler is hungry. now it wants an XML::Parser perl module?
[11:53] <flixor> lol :)
[11:53] <blackflag> maybe someone can help me an tell me how I do xvnc start at boot time?
[11:53] <nalioth> eGaTS: may i offer you a suggestion?
[11:53] <eGaTS> yes!
[11:53] <eGaTS> i would rtfm if i knew which m to f'in r.
[11:53] <blackflag> with the m4 version its easy
[11:54] <blackflag> I can say run as service , okay thats all
[11:54] <nalioth> eGaTS: hang on a minim and i'll help you greatly
[11:54] <eGaTS> :)
[11:54] <blackflag> but I can not find such thing under debian and ubuntu
[11:55] <nalioth> eGaTS: there is a perl repository on the net. if you install this file, you can use it to install ANY perl module you'll need from now on
[11:55] <nalioth> eGaTS: http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/K/KA/KANE/CPANPLUS-0.0562.tar.gz
[11:55] <blackflag> I tired Xvnc -inetd
[11:56] <blackflag> no errors
[11:56] <eGaTS> sweeet.
[11:56] <blackflag> but I can not connect
[11:56] <flixor> kkathman: the last tutorial is great
[11:56] <blackflag> when I start xvnc manually all went okay
[11:56] <flixor> from ibm looks pretty good
[11:57] <nalioth> eGaTS: you untar that and read the README and/or INSTALL, and i'll brb
[11:57] <blackflag> I read in google that the vnc server should start automatic when a client creates a connection
[11:58] <blackflag> but it dont do it
[11:58] <eGaTS> thanks, nalioth :)
[11:58] <blackflag> someone has an idea?
[11:59] <kkathman> flixor I think that the whole site is good...followed from start to finish
[11:59] <flixor> yes that might be the case
[12:00] <mpmc> Is it me or is Linux Bassless? sounds nothing like windows when playing music....
[12:00] <mpmc> sounds flat
[12:00] <kkathman> flixor: Since its meant to prepare people for the LPI exam, theres a very good breadth of knowledge
[12:00] <nikki_a> mpmc, probably cheating drivers for your sound chip/card
[12:00] <mpmc> can I get a bass boost?
[12:01] <nikki_a> mpmc: perhaps, check alsamixer, some drivers have a bass boost control, some don't, some windows drivers cheat and always boost bass
[12:01] <flixor> yes, wich means i am becomming an epert :)
[12:01] <kkathman> flixor: I've been waiting for them to come out with a Senior Administrator course :)
[12:02] <nikki_a> mpmc: failing that, use your media-player-of-choice's-eq :)
[12:02] <kkathman> Not that I could pass the other two at this point :)
[12:02] <flixor> a senior course
[12:02] <flixor> lol
[12:02] <mpmc> nikka_a I'm using the intel AC97 Audio chip
[12:02] <flixor> well why dont you start with the first one kkathman
[12:02] <nikki_a> mpmc: no, you're not :P
[12:02] <mpmc> nikka_a: huh?
[12:02] <kkathman> flixor: I did...but its pretty basic stuff tho
[12:02] <mpmc> nikka_a: What makes you so sure?
[12:02] <nikki_a> mpmc: its a common misconception about AC97
[12:03] <kkathman> like what a computer is, what makes up the components, etc
[12:03] <mpmc> nikka_a: Realtek AC97 Audio