[06:57] <Stigi`aw> designdream,  what's VIM?
[06:57] <XsesA> ok
[06:57] <arepie> am tired of asking this thousand times.. but i really mad with this driver.. how to repair the OpenGL from mesa to ATI ? and enable the direct randering function?
[06:57] <pike_> XsesA: its a pain to use nvidia installer youll have to redo it every time you update
[06:57] <FordPrefect> you probably don't need them until you go to do games or stuff
[06:57] <XsesA> what about the voice
[06:57] <XsesA> well games i will probably play on windows
[06:57] <FordPrefect> there is Cedega if you want to try them on lnux
[06:58] <XsesA> at least until i learn linux perfectly :P
[06:58] <FordPrefect> but they will probably perform better on winblows
[06:58] <FordPrefect> voice...you want the computer to talk to you
[06:58] <pike_> XsesA: the nvidia drivers you can install through ubuntu work fine i play quake4 etc no problem
[06:58] <FordPrefect> or you want to talk to it?
[06:58] <XsesA> no need to download then?
[06:58] <oidia> a command based ftp klient with ssl support?
[06:58] <XsesA> hehe i don't know how to say it in english tho
[06:58] <XsesA> audio :)
[06:58] <designdream> Stigi`aw: http://schlitt.info/applications/blog/index.php?/archives/488-Comfortable-PHP-editing-with-VIM-5.html
[06:59] <oidia> like lftp, but i dont have ssl support
[06:59] <XsesA> audio will work automaticly?
[06:59] <pike_> XsesA: search wiki.ubuntu.com for nvidia or mp3 or whatever it will tell you how to install using the recommended methods
[06:59] <FordPrefect> oh you will know by if it makes noise
[06:59] <Leftovercrack> anyone know why i cant boot from cd?
[06:59] <FordPrefect> generally yes
[06:59] <arepie> ubuntu-driver
[06:59] <Leftovercrack> and yes the bios are set up
[06:59] <Leftovercrack> anyone?
[06:59] <Leftovercrack> !?
[06:59] <XsesA> i understood that ubuntu comes with almost everything in it
[06:59] <Stigi`aw> Seems nice designdream, thanks alot :)
[06:59] <XsesA> like open office and stuff like that
[06:59] <FordPrefect> there are some goofy things with certain programs that lock the audio all to themself (freaking GAIM)
[06:59] <XsesA> is that right?
[07:00] <Leftovercrack> does anyone know why i cant get to the live cd?
[07:00] <Leftovercrack> why i cant see the desktop
[07:00] <Leftovercrack> ?
[07:00] <FordPrefect> well no...there are probably a bazillion packages that you can install
[07:00] <Leftovercrack> anyone?
[07:00] <FordPrefect> but it will have most of what you need to get started probably
[07:00] <Willster> did you burn it as a bootable cd with whatever software you used?
[07:00] <cge> Vuen: So, you just need to add rootpw to the Defaults line of /etc/sudoers (using visudo), and then sudo should ask for your root password instead of your user password.
[07:00] <XsesA> i'll need to download things?
[07:00] <designdream> Stigi`aw: i love vim with php...especially if you copy some of those guys settings and are a svn user
[07:00] <Leftovercrack> anyone?
[07:00] <slacktyro> is anyone using irssi?
[07:00] <FordPrefect> no you just use hte package manger
[07:00] <XsesA> is there mirc on it? D:
[07:01] <FordPrefect> it will download and install them for you
[07:01] <FordPrefect> Yes it is called XChat
[07:01] <FordPrefect> I do not remember whether it was installed automatically
[07:01] <XsesA> oh i understand
[07:01] <XsesA> i will not need to look for that on the web
[07:01] <Dark3Lite> hey
[07:01] <Leftovercrack> DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY I CANT USE THE LIVE CD?
[07:01] <FordPrefect> don't use the gnome-xchat, just use "XChat"
[07:01] <XsesA> there is some kind of manager for downloading?
[07:01] <designdream> Stigi`aw: if you want to get some of the features of vim without the extreme learning curve.. try 'cream' http://cream.sourceforge.net/
[07:01] <Leftovercrack> I REALLY NEED HELP GUYS
[07:01] <Dark3Lite> do any of you know if the are problems with Linksys network cards
[07:01] <boink> dont' we all?
[07:01] <FordPrefect> no there is a browser thingy that will do that for you
[07:01] <Dark3Lite> and ubuntu
[07:01] <Stigi`aw> designdream, Okay I will, thanks :)
[07:01] <pike_> slacktyro: yes
[07:02] <Vuen> cge, yeah, i've done it before. i was just hoping i could do that without activating root
[07:02] <Vuen> just because people seem to recommend not activating root
[07:02] <XsesA> well rly thanks
[07:02] <Leftovercrack> ANYONE KNOW WHY I CANT USE THE LIVE CD?
[07:02] <boink> fix your keyboard
[07:02] <Leftovercrack> OR WHY I CANT SEE THE DESKTOP?
[07:02] <FordPrefect> once you get more sophisticated you can add other repositories
[07:02] <XsesA> oh should i do the fat32 partition now or at the installation of ubuntu? (btw, can i install ubuntu on fat32 system)
[07:02] <Willster> yes that's a prerequisite
[07:02] <FordPrefect> but the default ones have what you need
[07:02] <FordPrefect> you can do it at the installation of ubuntu
[07:02] <FordPrefect> it knows how to create it
[07:02] <FordPrefect> no do not install it on fat32
[07:02] <pike_> Leftovercrack: any errors?
[07:02] <kmu> slacktyro, yep
[07:02] <XsesA> ok :)
[07:03] <FordPrefect> some things want a case sensitive filesystem
[07:03] <Leftovercrack> NO NO ERRORS
[07:03] <FordPrefect> or assume it
[07:03] <cge> Vuen: There is no reason to not activate root. The _potential_ problem is in logging in as root.
[07:03] <Leftovercrack> just says it uncompressed linux and will boot from kernal
[07:03] <cge> Vuen: or using su
[07:03] <lupine_85> "su root" is so handy when sudo breaks
[07:03] <Willster> leftovercrack, what did you use to burn the linux iso to disc?
[07:03] <Leftovercrack> thats all it says
[07:03] <lupine_85> sudo is easy to break
[07:03] <pike_> Leftovercrack: are you wanting to install or just use livecd?
[07:03] <Leftovercrack> nero
[07:03] <XsesA> oh about fat32 system.. i know it can't work with files larger than 2gb, but can it transfer files bigger than 2gb?
[07:03] <Leftovercrack> i just want to use the live cd
[07:03] <cge> lupine_85: How?
[07:04] <cge> lupine_85: As long as you are editing sudoers with visudo, that is.
[07:04] <XsesA> like if i download something that is 3gb to do fat32 system, can i just copy it to the ntfs or ext3?
[07:04] <slacktyro> pike, kmu i forgot how to change the screen for other channel or private chats
[07:04] <lupine_85> cge: or if the date, hostname, or some permissions change unexpectedly
[07:04] <pike_> slacktyro: alt-1 or 2 etc
[07:04] <Leftovercrack> anyone?
[07:04] <lupine_85> + a huge number of other ways of breaking it that I haven't discovered yet
[07:04] <SwissPhoenix> Dear folks, I own a notebook with a ipw2200 installed - runs fine, but sometimes it suddently changes the ESSID of the wireless card, though I don't have any roaming daemon running (at least none I know of). Can this behaviour be configured somewhere? (and possibly disabled?)
[07:04] <cge> lupine_85: The date doesn't seem to break it, actually.
[07:05] <lupine_85> it's broken it here, before - though not entirely sure how
[07:05] <cge> lupine_85: It appears that it only breaks it in one terminal.
[07:05] <lupine_85> I wasn't in a hurry to replicate it
[07:05] <nosklo> Leftovercrack, there is an option that says "Check CD for defects", have you tried it already?
[07:05] <cge> lupine_85: I had that problem before as well.
[07:05] <slacktyro> pike_: ty man, i was a long time using xchat so forgot the little i knew
[07:05] <lupine_85> switching to a different terminal is not a fix
[07:05] <slacktyro> pike_: how can i close some of this screens?
[07:05] <nosklo> Leftovercrack, it is the third option in the livecd menu.
[07:06] <pike_> slacktyro: you can /leave a channel
[07:06] <Willster> not sure if he's even getting it to boot, nosklo
[07:06] <FordPrefect> XsesA yes
[07:06] <FordPrefect> that isn't a problem
[07:06] <pike_> slacktyro: im not sure offhand how to close pm windows
[07:06] <lupine_85>  /part isn't it?
[07:06] <slacktyro> pike_: ty again :)
[07:06] <XsesA> ok thanks
[07:06] <nosklo> Willster, he said the CD uncompressed linux and is booting from the kernel
[07:06] <slacktyro> pike_: sry for many doubts
[07:06] <XsesA> i am still in dillema how to use the 55gb :P
[07:06] <Willster> ahh
[07:06] <Willster> my bad
[07:06] <ronnylinux> mount to NFS server '<IP_ADDRESS>' failed.
[07:06] <FordPrefect> and 99% of things probably will behave fine on the fat32...its just the ocassional thing that will assume that BLABLA.txt != blabla.txt
[07:07] <XsesA> oh i read some stuff about mounting ntfs?!
[07:07] <ronnylinux> hi guys i typed this command: mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS>://algo /home/ronny/ronnyfiles  and got this message: mount to NFS server '<IP_ADDRESS>' failed.
[07:07] <ronnylinux> whcat can i do
[07:07] <sethk> ronnylinux, you didn't give it a mount point
[07:07] <sethk> ronnylinux, oh, wait
[07:07] <Willster> yes XsesA.....if you go to lifehacker's website they have the ubuntu hack to mount NTFS
[07:07] <sethk> ronnylinux, sorry, lag
[07:07] <lupine_85> s/he did
[07:07] <lupine_85> use the right IP?
[07:07] <sethk> ronnylinux, make sure NFS is running on the server and client
[07:07] <XsesA> i don't get what is mounting ntfs :|
[07:08] <Leftovercrack> ok so does anyone know if i can run games thru linux?
[07:08] <sethk> Leftovercrack, some, but it's not what you want to be doing.
[07:08] <Leftovercrack> hrmm
[07:08] <pike_> XsesA: nfts is traditionally read only but there is write support that is supposed to work well now. there is always the chance of it messing up your partition though. in linux partitions are mounted to directories instead of like having a c:\
[07:08] <Leftovercrack> like what
[07:08] <black_13> does ubuntu use the same kernel build system as debian or not?
[07:08] <FordPrefect> XsesA on UNIX related OSes you "mount" filesystems into places
[07:08] <Leftovercrack> can i run css and bf2?
[07:09] <FordPrefect> so I could create a dir /mnt/foobar
[07:09] <FordPrefect> and mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/foobar
[07:09] <sethk> FordPrefect, sure,
[07:09] <gilesw> ya
[07:09] <FordPrefect> you MIGHT want to grab a book like UNIX for dumies
[07:09] <ronnylinux> sethk, how can i know if they are running?
[07:09] <nosklo> black_13, yes
[07:09] <sethk> FordPrefect, not a very good name, but you could
[07:09] <XsesA> so i must mount ntfs to read it?
[07:09] <Willster> Leftovercrack....i just ran across a company that ports bf2 to linux...but it costs a subscription fee (5$/mo)
[07:09] <FordPrefect> yeah I was explaining to XsesA
[07:09] <sethk> ronnylinux, use netstat, make sure it is listening for NFS connections.
[07:09] <FordPrefect> yeah its like assigning a drive letter
[07:09] <FordPrefect> only its a string
[07:09] <XsesA> i do it in the linux after the setup?
[07:09] <nosklo> Leftovercrack, if it says the CD is ok, try choosing a different screen resolution on boot, using F4
[07:10] <Leftovercrack> but can you install them like you would is windows?
[07:10] <FordPrefect> there should be a bootmenu
[07:10] <Leftovercrack> so you can run css and bf2
[07:10] <sethk> Leftovercrack, no
[07:10] <seamus7> Hi all .... Anyone available to help me with a hopefully quick fix to my repositories list? I get the following two errors: 1) Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Package s.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[07:10] <seamus7> 2) W: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures co uldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[07:10] <Leftovercrack> so then id have to duelboot?
[07:10] <XsesA> i must mount all my partitions or only the ones i want it to read
[07:10] <sethk> Leftovercrack, if you need windows, then you'll have to dual boot
[07:10] <XsesA> cuz i got c: which windows is on it, i don't need to read it from linux
[07:10] <BCMacbook> Hello, I'm having trouble with add/remove as well as the update manager, when i run them from the app menu or system/admin (respectively) they start launching but then never do. (by start i mean the app switcher at the bottom says "starting appname").. anyone know what is going on? thanks
[07:11] <kromel> seamus7, I get the same No_PUBKEY message
[07:11] <sethk> XsesA, no need to mount anything you don't intend to use.  strange question
[07:11] <seamus7> kromel: I think maybe I needed to append a public key to some file but didn't realize it at the time.
[07:11] <XsesA> umm ok ^^ sorry for being lil dumb :)
[07:11] <kromel> seamus7, I can't find the pub key
[07:12] <BCMacbook> this is a brand new install on a p2-500
[07:12] <XsesA> i write the mount command on linux and it will just recognize it?
[07:12] <sethk> and what people said about windows isn't really true.  in windows you mount network drives.  they just don't use the word mount, so that you'll be afraid to use anything other than windows
[07:12] <black_13> i attempt to build the 2.6.10 kernel using make-kpkg i get {standard input}:720: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov'
[07:12] <Dr_willis> sethk,  mount sounds so 'dirty' :)
[07:12] <totall_6_7> LOL
[07:13] <Willster> lmao
[07:13] <seamus7> kromel: oh that's what I was hoping someone knew (where the public key was and where to get it) .... in that case I wonder what the fix is and if many others are getting it?
[07:13] <Vuen> haha Dr_willis
[07:13] <Vuen> i like linux because it lets me type man mount
[07:13] <pike_> XsesA: best thing would be to come back here when you want to mount it and ask its a little involved.
[07:14] <BCMacbook> anyone?
[07:14] <Nem1> what?
[07:14] <ricanelite> Hello Guys!! I need help to fix my screen resolution on my computer
[07:14] <ricanelite> How can I go about that?
[07:14] <kuja> How do you simply download desired packages from apt, rather than installing them? I would like to say "apt-get download some-package" and have it download the package and its dependencies, but not install it.
[07:14] <ScreaminIke> does anyone know how to use an ssh server as an http/socksv5 proxy?
[07:14] <jackrazz> hey everyone
[07:15] <orbin> Vuen: #unzip ; strip ; touch ; grep ; > finger ; mount ; fsck ; > more ; yes ; umount ; sleep
[07:15] <THX-1138> kuja - synaptic has that option
[07:15] <Vuen> kuja: apt-get --download-only
[07:15] <jackrazz> does rythmbox/ubuntu have an equalizer?
[07:15] <kuja> Vuen: What command would I use?
[07:15] <kuja> install?
[07:16] <Blinny> Are there tools for hot-swapping scsi drives in a hardware RAID setup?
[07:16] <boink> xmms has an equalizer
[07:16] <Vuen> orbin, lol
[07:16] <pike_> seamus7: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages for seveas's repo i think.. if that helps
[07:16] <jackrazz> hey boink, what is xmms?
[07:16] <kuja> Vuen: I did an apt-get clean, and I kind of need the packages back, cause I need to move them home.
[07:16] <boink> xmms is a media player
[07:16] <jackrazz> video?
[07:16] <jackrazz> oh, ok
[07:16] <boink> mostly audio
[07:16] <Vuen> kuja, yeah i think
[07:16] <seamus7> pike_: oh ok thx I'll check that out
[07:16] <kuja> jackrazz: Probably the closely immitated winamp
[07:16] <Vuen> apt-get install --download-only <package>
[07:16] <jackrazz> so it could be a replacement for rythmbox
[07:16] <seamus7> kromel: did you see pike's message above?
[07:16] <Vuen> try it with something small to see if it works
[07:17] <dark_light> my gtk is configured to hightlight the unknown words ("typos"), is there any way i can change this?
[07:17] <ricanelite> can anyone tell me how to fix my Screen Resolution?
[07:17] <jackrazz> ok, thanks
[07:17] <kuja> jackrazz: I personally would say amaroK is the greatest audio player ever.
[07:17] <Nem1> ricanelite, are you there?
[07:17] <jackrazz> I'm more of an itunes type
[07:17] <jackrazz> amorok, i've heard of that
[07:17] <kuja> Vuen: I have the packages installed already, and it'll just say it's already installed, regardless of the download only option.
[07:17] <house> jackrazz try banshee
[07:17] <kromel> seamus7, no, looking at it now
[07:17] <Vuen> oh
[07:18] <Vuen> i'm confused, you want to redownload the debs but you already have the packages installed?
[07:18] <Vuen> ...why?
[07:18] <BCMacbook> .. :(
[07:18] <jackrazz> house, I like banshee, but it doesn't have an equalizer plugin, right???
[07:18] <Willster> kuja, i agree....i am loving amarok so far
[07:18] <Nem1> ricanelite,From preferences select screen resolution.
[07:18] <MartinOz> does anyone know a way to burn audio cd from .m4a files ?
[07:18] <house> it does
[07:18] <kuja> Vuen: Yes, the packages are installed. But I need the debs. They're installed to my pen drive. I need to move these home (where I do not have a net connection)
[07:18] <kuja> I frequently do a `apt-get clean` to conserve space on my pen drive.
[07:18] <house> jackrazz what version are you running ?
[07:18] <jackrazz> does amarok have an equalizer
[07:18] <Vuen> kuja, i see
[07:18] <Vuen> hmm
[07:18] <jackrazz> the version in edgy
[07:19] <kuja> jackrazz: Yes, it does.
[07:19] <jackrazz> hang on and i'll tell you
[07:19] <ricanelite> no i cant only select 1024x786 and before I could use a 1280x1024
[07:19] <Willster> jackrazz, yes it has one
[07:19] <kuja> amaroK has anything you could really imagine for an audio player
[07:19] <jackrazz> ok, hang on
[07:19] <house> hmm this one should already have the euqal...
[07:19] <gortiz> !xgl
[07:19] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:19] <jackrazz> just shut down rhtymbox and started up banshee
[07:19] <MartinOz> amarok is excellent, but i can't burn .m4a files to audio cd !
[07:19] <Nem1> ricanelite what distribution are you using?
[07:20] <ricanelite> Ubuntu Linux
[07:20] <TmWrk_Quil> kmaynard: back from lunch here
[07:20] <ricanelite> and using KDE
[07:20] <jackrazz> where is the equalizer in banshee, do i need to install a plugin?
[07:20] <kuja> jackrazz: GTK and media is really horrible.
[07:20] <kuja> KDE is better IMO, in the media department.
[07:20] <kuja> GNOME*
[07:20] <Vuen> kuja, you could use apt-get install --print-uris <packages>
[07:20] <ricanelite> right now I'm running Ubuntu 5 but if I upgrade to the lastest which i think is 6 will that fix it?
[07:20] <Vuen> then feed that into wget
[07:20] <MartinOz> can anyone help burning .m4a to audio cd ?
[07:20] <kuja> GNOME media sucks, I mean to say
[07:21] <jackrazz> Willster, where is the equalizer in banshee?
[07:21] <profoX`> whats a good IDE for php development? not gedit :) something a little more advanced
[07:21] <Vuen> i wonder if this would work: apt-get install --print-uris <packages> | wget
[07:21] <kuja> Vuen: Same thing, the message is given.
[07:21] <ScreaminIke> profox: idle?
[07:21] <cge> profoX`: GVim
[07:21] <Nem1> ricanelite:maybe yes i also use 6 and my card is working properly
[07:21] <Vuen> hmph
[07:21] <gilesw> i use eclipse profoX`
[07:21] <jackrazz> virtually all of my music library in in apple lossless format right now
[07:21] <dark_light> oops it was only a configuration of xchat, sorry
[07:21] <Willster> jackrzz, i'm not sure...i haven't used it
[07:21] <gilesw> it's the industry standard ide
[07:22] <gilesw> whatever language
[07:22] <Vuen> kuja, maybe aptitude will do it instead of apt-get
[07:22] <ricanelite> i know there was a way in the terminal which i did before i had to reinstall Ubuntu on my machine which fix the problem
[07:22] <kuja> Vuen: Good idea
[07:22] <jackrazz> ok, i just loaded it up and dont see it, but I'll check their web site for plugins
[07:22] <Nem1> ricanelite:i do not know.I am new.I dont know many things yet.
[07:22] <kuja> Before I forget, I need MP3s working on RythmBox... maybe ubotu knows :P
[07:23] <kuja> !mp3
[07:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:23] <jackrazz> does amarok have an equalizer?
[07:23] <kuja> err, sorry about that
[07:23] <jackrazz> or is it just xmms
[07:23] <profoX`> cge: no gvim, i dont like to use gvim for this kind of things. personally.. :) i was thinking about eclipse already like gilesw said.. but maybe there are some other tips I could take a look at
[07:23] <BCMacbook> guys.. anyone?... i really need to get this thing going..
[07:23] <Willster> jackrazz, yes amarok has a equalizer and is very full-featured
[07:23] <pitt0071> anyone owns a inspiron 9300 running ubuntu?
[07:23] <black_13> would versions of gcc affect how to build the kernel?
[07:24] <pitt0071> or any inspiron with those dell buttons in front...
[07:24] <jackrazz> automatix will install those resticted formats also, along with skype, google earth, and so on.
[07:24] <Decadent> is there any program as gocr but with a gui??
[07:24] <jackrazz> thanks willster
[07:24] <jackrazz> I'll check that out.
[07:24] <Willster> jackrazz, i believe you can get amarok through automatix as well
[07:24] <LjL> Decadent: Kooka has a GUI and supports both gocr and ocrad
[07:24] <Willster> one of the newer/newest versions
[07:24] <kuja> Vuen: What... the... aptitude is a bit more helpful in the downloading part, except it gives errors. Saying that the file is read only and it can't get it.
[07:24] <Decadent> ok thanks :)
[07:24] <krunchi> any one wanna help me regarding switch over to ubuntu
[07:24] <LjL> Decadent: i see there's a gocr-gtk packages as well, if you're on gnome
[07:24] <cge> profoX`: I don't know. I just use vim for everything.
[07:25] <aLPHa_LeaK>  lo
[07:25] <cge> profoX`: Unless I feel like using emacs instead
[07:25] <Vuen> kuja, damn, that's really wierd
[07:25] <Vuen> i don't really use aptitude
[07:25] <profoX`> cge: shh :) before everyone goes vim > emacs and emacs > vim
[07:26] <kuja> I don't either
[07:26] <Decadent> yeah I'm in gnome ill check them out
[07:26] <jackrazz> how does amarok do with gnome/gdk??
[07:26] <Decadent> thanks
[07:26] <jackrazz> ok?
[07:26] <LjL> jackrazz: it should.
[07:26] <LjL> jackrazz: many use it on gnome
[07:26] <profoX`> jackrazz: amarok works fine in gnome
[07:26] <profoX`> it starts up a bit slower than in kde
[07:26] <profoX`> because it needs to load in some libs
[07:26] <Vuen> yeah, it works fine in gnome
[07:26] <jackrazz> ok, I'm gonna give it a try.
[07:26] <kuja> Which gstreamer plugin supports mp3?
[07:26] <jackrazz> irc is great...long live irc
[07:26] <Willster> lol here here
[07:26] <profoX`> Listen is also a nice gnome alternative that looks abit like amarok, but i havent tried it yet
[07:27] <kuja> I only want to get the gstreamer package I need
[07:27] <Vuen> i think they renamed it from amaroK to Amarok because they want to make it useable on both
[07:27] <Vuen> as opposed to making it seem attached to kde
[07:27] <ScreaminIke> does anyone know how to use an ssh server as an http/socksv5 proxy?
[07:27] <Willster> speaking of which, i'm still running the stock KDE release for kubuntu....it worth updating to newest release?
[07:28] <Vuen> ScreaminIke, i said five minutes ago
[07:28] <jackrazz> just wondering, does using a kde app consume that much more memory for the libs or is it pretty minimal?
[07:28] <kuja> Vuen: Well, amarok is written using the Qt toolkit, so that already says a lot about KDE.
[07:28] <Vuen> but i got disconnected, maybe you didn't get it
[07:28] <Willster> kubuntu 6.06
[07:28] <Tonren> ScreaminIke: connect with this command: ssh remoteserver.com -D 8080; then set your browser to proxy as localhost:8080
[07:28] <kuja> I usually don't touch KDE, it's not as smooth looking as any of the GNOME themes I see.
[07:28] <kuja> I only use amaroK cause its so damn nice! :)
[07:28] <Vuen> ScreaminIke, to tunnel http through ssh, install privoxy on the server, then ssh to the server and tunnel 8118, then set the browser proxy to localhost:8118
[07:29] <jackrazz> kuja, what is qt as it relates to gnome, any relation at all?
[07:29] <kuja> Qt is to KDE as Gtk is to GNOME
[07:29] <Vuen> ScreaminIke, to tunnel socks5, you'll need a socks5 proxy. i don't know of any other than tor
[07:29] <kuja> Qt is the toolkit that KDE uses, developed by Trolltech. Gtk is a toolkit used primarily by GNOME applications.
[07:30] <kuja> The KDE base is written in Qt, just as the GNOME base is written in GTK
[07:30] <jackrazz> synaptic is busy installing amarok as I type(:
[07:30] <jackrazz> ok kuja, thanks
[07:30] <ScreaminIke> thx, tonren
[07:30] <kuja> If you're on a slower computer like mine, you'll notice that Qt is significantly faster than Gtk.
[07:30] <Tonren> ScreaminIke: No prob!  I'll mail you a bill
[07:30] <kuja> Though, I prefer the "smoothness" of the Gtk looks
[07:30] <Willster> kuja, i kept having stability problems with gnome.....i find it a bit more visually appealing out of the box as well....but with some customization i am really liking KDE
[07:30] <kent> is it possible to easely share a printer connected to Ubuntu  to a windows computer on the lan?
[07:30] <Vuen> kent, yep
[07:30] <Willster> plus i use quite a few (if not the majority) K-apps
[07:31] <jackrazz> No problem, I have an Athlon 64 2800 with 1GB RAM
[07:31] <jackrazz> so i should be ok
[07:31] <Vuen> kent, install the printer, install samba
[07:31] <kent> Vuen: how?  He left me to die with the onboard card.
[07:32] <kuja> onboard graphics, rather.
[07:32] <kuja> 64MB onboard, I think?
[07:33] <antonio_Z> thanks ubotu
[07:33] <Willster> ouch
[07:33] <slacktyro> hi all, i got the sounds working
[07:33] <ScreaminIke> oh... wait... it is
[07:33] <ScreaminIke> :)
[07:33] <kuja> So much for 3D acceleration
[07:33] <Willster> kuja, integrated intel or somethin similiar?
[07:33] <slacktyro> but there's a problem, if i click at mixer to change something, everything stop to work(about sound)
[07:33] <kuja> Willster: I'm not good on hardware, but it's a VIA chipset
[07:33] <Willster> ah
[07:34] <Willster> i should read more thoroughly....getting tired though LOL
[07:34] <kuja> However, the "via" xorg driver doesn't work, it defaults to the "vesa" driver.
[07:34] <LjL> kuja: vesa is bad...
[07:34] <kuja> Obviously
[07:34] <Willster> yeah i would think so
[07:34] <kuja> LjL: No 3D acceleration, *big* problem.
[07:34] <LjL> kuja: no *2D* acceleration even
[07:35] <Willster> i was really happy when i found out the latest release had support for my vid car and wireless right out of the box
[07:35] <kane77> hi, how can I install flash player?
[07:35] <XsesA> hello, it's me again :)
[07:35] <kane77> *firefox plugin
[07:35] <balzac> hello
[07:35] <kuja> kane77: Try installing through EasyUbuntu or Automatix, they're great.
[07:36] <XsesA> some1 just told me that if windows recognizes the 55gb ntfs so i won't be able to format it in order to install linux
[07:36] <balzac> I'm trying to install samba on breezy badger
[07:36] <kane77> kuja, does that install it from source?
[07:36] <pitt0071> sound volume... how to make master controlling master mono?
[07:36] <balzac> it won't install smbfs because of a package dependency
[07:36] <kuja> kane77: Flash is not open source.
[07:36] <LjL> !easyubuntu
[07:36] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:36] <slacktyro> pitt0071: try alsamixer
[07:36] <kuja> It just does the installing *and* configuring for you.
[07:37] <XsesA> anyone?
[07:37] <jrib> ubotu: tell kane77 about flash
[07:37] <kane77> kuja, I mean from the .so that you can download from adobe page?
[07:37] <pitt0071> slacktyro, im in there just now
[07:37] <LjL> kane77: ".so" is definitely not source, fyi. ".so" is a shared library
[07:37] <kuja> You can do that. That's not a very difficult process. That's not a "source"
[07:37] <slacktyro> XsesA: do you wanna only have linux, or dual boot?
[07:37] <XsesA> dual boot
[07:38] <kane77> LjL, yes that's what I meant... sorry..
[07:38] <Willster> maybe a n00b question....but when i'm running Azureus i don't get access to TCP/UDP ports unless i run it under root access
[07:38] <Willster> how do you change that?
[07:38] <slacktyro> pitt0071: depending of your sound card there'll be a couple of options there
[07:38] <kane77> but the problem is I run 64 bit version.. and it says it cannot install it on my comp...
[07:38] <XsesA> any1? :|
[07:38] <pitt0071> slacktyro, it is just a sigmatel which ships with dells...
[07:38] <LjL> kane77: that's correct, you can't use flash on 64bit AFAIK
[07:39] <krunchi192> can anybody help me about shifting to ubuntu, please help
[07:39] <LjL> !helpme
[07:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:39] <slacktyro> XsesA: install the linux at ex3 partition, create one for swap and run it
[07:39] <kane77> LjL, isnt there a command for forcing 32 instead?
[07:39] <XsesA> the ubuntu will do it alone on install isn't he?
[07:39] <kuja> Ah great, the gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 plugin is great.
[07:39] <XsesA> gahh i am downloading 64bit version, i won't be able to run flash?
[07:39] <slacktyro> XsesA: it'll do most part alone but sometimes you'll have to guide it
[07:39] <piratepenguin> what bootloader does the ubuntu livecd use? grub? isolinux?
[07:40] <Willster> grub
[07:40] <LjL> kane77: i don't know, i'm running 32 bit. there are various ways for running 32-bit software on the 64-bit version of ubuntu, but i don't know about them, and i'm not sure they're straightforward
[07:40] <XsesA> ok but is it possible to do that?
[07:40] <XsesA> cuz it's physiclly the same hard disk
[07:40] <XsesA> just different partitions
[07:40] <Nomiss> hi, I am trying to run a small opengl/glut program I wrote. It worked last week but now i get this error: (freeglut (./a.out): OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0') that's stange since I do not remember changing any configuration. someone can help?
[07:40] <slacktyro> XsesA: install in other partitions, there won't be problem
[07:40] <XsesA> ok
[07:41] <XsesA> in the install
[07:41] <johnficca> hi can someone tell me the command to run to make a file executable?
[07:41] <slacktyro> sry pitt0071 i don't much about that
[07:41] <XsesA> there is option for fat32 format also?
[07:41] <XsesA> cuz i want to make part of it fat32 so both windows and linux will be able to read\write
[07:41] <LjL> johnficca: "chmod +x file"
[07:41] <kane77> johnficca, chmod +x file
[07:41] <slacktyro> the root partition will be ex3 file system
[07:41] <XsesA> and about boot, how i do the dual boot thing?
[07:41] <johnficca> thanks
[07:41] <piratepenguin> johnficca, chmod +x file
[07:41] <piratepenguin> oops.. way too late
[07:41] <slacktyro> XsesA: the grub will do that
[07:42] <Willster> XsesA, you can configure both linux to read/write NTFS and windows to read/write ext3
[07:42] <XsesA> grub?
[07:42] <XsesA> i understood that writing to ntfs can mess it up
[07:42] <XsesA> it still beta
[07:42] <Willster> yes, you're right....i've had issues with it myself....however if you're only reading data it's generally quite stable
[07:43] <Willster> haven't had any issues writing data from windows to ext3, though
[07:43] <slacktyro> anyone is getting a bug at sound mixer?
[07:43] <Willster> maybe have a ext3 partition for linux, ntfs for windows....and a fat32 for both?
[07:43] <XsesA> willster
[07:43] <Huey> how do you get emacs to save the font settings i've selected?
[07:43] <XsesA> i will use the fat32
[07:43] <XsesA> just if i will download some music to the linux
[07:43] <Huey> i keep having to re-select the font at emacs startup
[07:44] <XsesA> so i will be able to hear it on windows too
[07:44] <XsesA> how u write from windows to ext3?
[07:44] <LjL> !fuse
[07:44] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:44] <XsesA> from what i read, the windows can't even recognize this partition
[07:44] <LjL> whops sorry
[07:45] <LjL> XsesA: there are third party tools
[07:45] <kuja> XsesA: If all fails, perhaps cygwin may work
[07:45] <Willster> XsesA....just a sec and i'll try and find the link for the one I use
[07:45] <LjL> google "ext2 windows" (or "ext3 windows" possibly)
[07:45] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: some software can do it
[07:45] <XsesA> ok thanks
[07:45] <Willster> yeah or '"ext3 ubuntu lifehacker"
[07:45] <XsesA> iit's safe?
[07:45] <kuja> *Maybe* with cygwin you could mount your ext3 partition... maybe?
[07:45] <LjL> XsesA: couldn't swear on it.
[07:46] <kuja> Well, ext3 is safe to write it. It's open source, documented, so the filesystem bridge is safely implemented in most said applications that have the feature.
[07:46] <Shadow_mil2> anyone here use xchat?
[07:46] <Willster> yeah....usually what i do is just copy files....make sure it was successful...then when i log into different OS delete from there
[07:46] <kuja> NTFS on the other hand... well...
[07:46] <kuja> What I do is, I boot into my handy Dapper LiveCD :)
[07:46] <XsesA> i can read all from linux
[07:46] <kuja> Shadow_mil2: I do
[07:46] <XsesA> right?
[07:46] <kuja> XsesA: Correct
[07:46] <Shadow_mil2> I can't get xchat spell checker to work
[07:46] <Willster> Shadow_mil2, i'm using xchat
[07:47] <XsesA> if i'll want to read something from the windows i'll just put it on the fat32 partition then
[07:47] <kuja> Hm, sorry. I don't use the spell checker.
[07:47] <Willster> hmm, actually now that i check i have it enabled but it's not working
[07:47] <kuja> I like to leave spell checkers to word processors :)
[07:47] <Willster> lol
[07:47] <XsesA> well thank you
[07:47] <gilesw> there's a sweet ext3 driver for windows
[07:47] <Shadow_mil2> Willster: yeah I have the same problem
[07:47] <gilesw> works amazingly well
[07:47] <Shadow_mil2> Willster: package bug?
[07:47] <XsesA> from what i understand the install should be very easy and the installation will guide me
[07:48] <XsesA> after that i'll come here and ask for more help :P
[07:48] <kuja> Hell, there's even GmailFS support on Windows, IIRC. It'd be crazy not to have a transparent support driver for ext3 :)
[07:48] <sidny4> how do I make ubuntu log me in automatically at start-up?
[07:48] <slacktyro> look at the problem i got, my sound is woking as long as i don't try to use a mixer
[07:48] <Willster> Shadow_mil2, maybe, what version are you running? (i'm on 2.6.6)
[07:48] <slacktyro> what can be that?
[07:48] <Shadow_mil2> XChat 2.6.6
[07:48] <kuja> Willster: Maybe X-Chat has no dictionary to check your spelling against.
[07:48] <XsesA> oh last thing, do i have to do anything for the boot to work? (i want it to ask me which OS i want to use that time
[07:48] <kuja> I'd try googling it.
[07:49] <Shadow_mil2> Willster: though id *did* on 2.6.6 before
[07:49] <kuja> XsesA: GRUB is good for that.
[07:49] <cherubiel> XsesA: install a bootloader
[07:49] <kuja> sudo apt-get install grub
[07:49] <Shadow_mil2> Then I had to do a reinstall
[07:49] <XsesA> what's grub?
[07:49] <kuja> A boot loader.
[07:49] <XsesA> can u explain to me what to do after i install the linux?
[07:49] <XsesA> what will happen if i'll just open the computer after installing linux
[07:49] <root__> how do i kill a user in my computer????
[07:49] <cherubiel> XsesA: its part of the insallation
[07:49] <kuja> Yes, install an IRC client then connect back to this channel :)
[07:49] <DaedalusvX> is there any word on how ubuntu's dealing with the debian firefox fork?
[07:50] <kuja> Right after you install!
[07:50] <sidny4> how do I make ubuntu log me in automatically at start-up?
[07:50] <Crippy-Boy> root_ are they logged in via ssh? or just logged in locally?
[07:50] <XsesA> ohh ok
[07:50] <XsesA> so the boot thing should be done on the installation?
[07:50] <bsytko> Hello, does anyone know what the default font is in KDE, I am using Ubuntu, but I run a few KDE apps (Konversation, amaroK), and I want to change their font that they use for menu's, and I don't know what it is
[07:50] <root__> ssh coz my GUI crashed
[07:50] <XsesA> so i'll just do it slow and read whatever he sais :)
[07:50] <kuja> XsesA: Are you trying to dual boot with Windows and Ubuntu?
[07:50] <XsesA> thank you
[07:50] <Crippy-Boy> kill their ssh session.
[07:50] <XsesA> yep
[07:50] <root__> i stoppped gdm but i still see bad picture on my screen
[07:50] <kuja> XsesA: Both on the same harddrive?
[07:50] <XsesA> yep
[07:50] <root__> i have two PCs
[07:51] <XsesA> differenct partitions
[07:51] <Shadow_mil2> root__: can't kill a user, only the user's processes
[07:51] <kuja> XsesA: Is Windows already installed on that harddrive?
[07:51] <XsesA> yes
[07:51] <kuja> XsesA: Do you already have a free partition for Linux, ready?
[07:51] <XsesA> yeah
[07:51] <root__> one is the one i talk now another is ubuntu that is not responding
[07:51] <XsesA> it's still ntfs tho
[07:51] <kuja> Okay, just making sure.
[07:51] <XsesA> but it's clear
[07:51] <XsesA> nothing in it
[07:51] <kuja> XsesA: Wouldn't wan't you accidentally erasing Windows.
[07:51] <kuja> :)
[07:51] <XsesA> the installer will format it isn't he?
[07:51] <ScreaminIke> can i force bittorrent to go through a socksv5?
[07:51] <XsesA> hehe :)
[07:51] <kuja> XsesA: Yes, it will =)
[07:51] <root__> is there any way to kill all processes by the user?
[07:52] <root__> or to reset the GUI
[07:52] <jrib> root__: pkill -u user_name
[07:52] <live> hola
[07:52] <XsesA> kuja
[07:52] <root__> ok thanks
[07:52] <root__> trying
[07:52] <mjr> ScreaminIke, look into dante-client
[07:52] <mjr> might do what you want
[07:52] <live> where am i
[07:52] <XsesA> how do u recommend to split the 55gb to ext3 and fat32 (how many gb for fat32 and for ext3)
[07:52] <live> ?
[07:52] <chantra> hi, I'm trying to reconfigure my locales setting, but even by setting priority to low, it doesn't let me choose :s
[07:52] <kuja> XsesA: Why would you want fat32?
[07:53] <XsesA> so i will be able to write in linux and windows read it
[07:53] <Ghagge> anyone that can help on how to upgrade from one version of ubuntu to a newer one?
[07:53] <bbrazil> !upgrade
[07:53] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:53] <cherubiel> !upgrade
[07:53] <dark_light> there are any xmms2 package for ubuntu?
[07:53] <mjr> !ext3
[07:53] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[07:53] <kuja> XsesA: Still, not quite a good idea, in my opinion.
[07:53] <XsesA> why?
[07:53] <mjr> XsesA, see the link
[07:53] <XsesA> i got the idea from this channel tho
[07:53] <kuja> Because FAT32 isn't a very great filesystem.
[07:53] <chantra> !locale
[07:53] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[07:53] <XsesA> i have no idea about linux and stuff
[07:54] <XsesA> oh kuja
[07:54] <kuja> XsesA: Look at what ubotu just said.
[07:54] <DaedalusvX> FAT32 is just about the definition of a terrible filesystem
[07:54] <XsesA> ok
[07:54] <kuja> XsesA: The installer will do *everything* for you.
[07:54] <XsesA> will u help me mounting the ntfs after i install linux?
[07:54] <XsesA> i just didn't get it
[07:54] <slacktyro> anyone can help me with a sound problem i'm getting?
[07:54] <kuja> XsesA: Sure, it's easy. It's a single command.
[07:54] <XsesA> ok
[07:55] <slacktyro> when i boot the system the sound is working but if i click at the mixer to change something it stop to work
[07:55] <XsesA> it's for ext2
[07:55] <XsesA> it works with ext3 also?
[07:55] <kuja> XsesA: You can tell the installer to "do what it wants to do with the free partition"
[07:55] <kuja> And it'll partition everything automatically for you
[07:55] <slacktyro> lsmod
[07:55] <XsesA> what do u mean
[07:56] <XsesA> it will make all the 55gb ext3?
[07:56] <XsesA> and the swap thing?
[07:56] <kuja> XsesA: No, it'll make a good portion of it ext3, and it'll make some of it swap.
[07:57] <XsesA> what do u mean good partition? (sorry for the newbie questions)
[07:57] <LjL> *portion* :)
[07:57] <kuja> =P
[07:57] <XsesA> ? O:
[07:58] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: how big is you HD?
[07:58] <Shadow_mil2> and how much ram you got?
[07:58] <XsesA> i got 80 that is divided to 20(windows) and 55(clear atm) and another hard disk of 250gb that i want to leave it as it is cuz i don't feel like formmating it
[07:58] <XsesA> 1gb
[07:58] <XsesA> amd 3000+
[07:59] <XsesA> :o
[07:59] <kuja> I have 80, which is divided to 40GB as ext3, representing my root ("/") and 39GB representing my home ("/home") and 1GB as my swap.
[07:59] <kuja> =)
[07:59] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: I would say, 10GB to Linux ext3, and 500 MB of swap
[07:59] <james296> can someone PLZ tell me how to prevent the terminal from opening when launching the beta version of Gaim?
[07:59] <XsesA> but i got full 55 for linux
[07:59] <XsesA> what's the root and home? :o
[07:59] <cherubiel> XsesA: make an extended out of the full 55gigs, givve 10gigs to / and 1.5 times your RAM as swap.
[07:59] <kuja> I don't even have Windows :)
[08:00] <kuja> All 80 is for Linux! YAY!
[08:00] <XsesA> lol :D
[08:00] <edgy> Hi, ubuntu mysql Default options are read from the following files in the given order: /etc/mysql/my.cnf ~/.my.cnf /etc/mysql/my.cnf The default should be /etc/my.cnf which is not read and also can't understand the duplication. Has ubuntu changed this for a reason?
[08:00] <slacktyro> kuja: good boy
[08:00] <XsesA> i neesd to play some games :)
[08:00] <XsesA> *need
[08:00] <slacktyro> me too 80gb for linux
[08:00] <slacktyro> if i have to use windows i prefer to buy a video game
[08:00] <slacktyro> ps2 is a good choice
[08:00] <XsesA> u mean 10gigs to root?
[08:00] <kuja> slacktyro: I'll need Windows soon though, if I ever decide which game I want to play... WoW, Guildwar, or FFXI :P
[08:00] <mariogdlt> hiii
[08:00] <XsesA> 1gb to swap, and the remaining to home?
[08:01] <james296> well???
[08:01] <kuja> At which point I'll probably just buy a new harddrive.
[08:01] <kuja> Maybe a 60GB
[08:01] <Willster> hey does anyone here use weatherwatcher by chance in windows?
[08:01] <Shadow_mil2> /dev/hda4              11G  4.0G  6.4G  39% /
[08:01] <Shadow_mil2> /dev/hda2             3.9G  393M  3.3G  11% /home
[08:01] <kuja> Bah, that's baby linux!
[08:01] <mariogdlt> anyone canl help me? i have created a script in my /etc/init.d/ folder and i will want it will be after some minutes be restarted
[08:01] <kuja> Well, I'm doin' pretty bad right now too :)
[08:01] <XsesA> i can't understand :(
[08:02] <Shadow_mil2> kuja: and I have 1GB of swap
[08:02] <XsesA> how to divide the 55gb?
[08:02] <nick39434> helppppppppppppppppppp
[08:02] <kuja> Shadow_mil2: Me too
[08:02] <nick39434> my error
[08:02] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: gparted
[08:02] <nick39434> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26478/
[08:02] <XsesA> 10gigs root 1gb swap and the other is for /home?
[08:02] <nick39434> my error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26478/
[08:02] <mjr> XsesA, just let the install do what it wants
[08:02] <mariogdlt> anyone canl help me? i have created a script in my /etc/init.d/ folder and i will want it will be after some minutes be restarted
[08:02] <XsesA> i'll just tell him which partition and then let it do what it wants
[08:02] <XsesA> ?
[08:02] <grok> what is the difference between an ext2 partition and ext3?
[08:03] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: by default ubuntu does not make a /home partiton.  If I were I would learn more about partitions before doing so
[08:03] <XsesA> how it will probably divide it?
[08:03] <james296> can someone amswer my question or not???
[08:03] <XsesA> can u explain to me what is "/" and what is "/home"?
[08:03] <mjr> XsesA, you've already been given that answer. One big ext3, plus some swap.
[08:03] <XsesA> oh ok
[08:03] <XsesA> sorry
[08:03] <XsesA> so no need for /home?
[08:03] <ajopaul_> hi have put kubuntu after installing ubuntu! i work behind a proxy and my konsole is not able to access any external sites though gnome-terminal can
[08:03] <mjr> no.
[08:03] <kuja> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26479/ -- This is what I have right now :)
[08:04] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: download gparted, burn it, then boot to it.  Resize NTFS partition then install Linux on unpartitioned space
[08:04] <ajopaul_> have enabled proxy too
[08:04] <majyk> is there anyway to disable evolution from starting up the evolution-exchange process even when it's explicitly disabled in the session? I don't even use evolution.
[08:04] <kuja> I'm booting from a LiveCD at a cyber cafe, using my USB pen drive as a persistent storage device :P
[08:04] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: well having a /home partition is a good idea, but its not needed at all
[08:04] <loko555> james296; i also use the beta and there is no terminal that opens
[08:04] <XsesA> oh it's like 2 partitions?
[08:04] <Willster> hehe kuja, where you at?
[08:04] <jamey3> Does anyone know how I can get a bic951-based tuner card working on Ubuntu please?
[08:04] <kuja> Willster: Korea
[08:04] <XsesA> "/" is like c: in windows and /home is like d: or something?
[08:04] <james296> well somehow it happened to me I dont know how, how can I fix it though?
[08:05] <XsesA> why shadow? 55gigs are too much?
[08:05] <Willster> not too far, i'm in thailand
[08:05] <pike_> XsesA: a seperate home is nice but not needed its just where all your profile stuff is saved so some people me included like it to be seperate to easily reinstall without losing anything
[08:05] <james296> I tried reinstalling it but didnt work
[08:05] <kuja> XsesA: / is like C:, and /home is like C:/Documents and Settings
[08:05] <loko555> james296; how do you start it
[08:05] <kuja> /home/kuja is like C:\Documents and Settings\kuja
[08:05] <XsesA> oh ok
[08:05] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: Like I said, if you give 10GB to Linux, and 1GB to swap you'll be fine
[08:05] <james296> Applications Internet Gaim...
[08:05] <FordPrefect> for a single user system for a first time user I'd probably not bother with a seperate home as the potential downsides probably outweight the benefits.
[08:05] <XsesA> but what if i will download stuff?
[08:06] <ajopaul_> majyk, open evolution edit plugins uncheck data server
[08:06] <kuja> FordPrefect: I've learned tho, it's best to keep home on a separate partition, but you're right.
[08:06] <kuja> I've lost data *a lot*
[08:06] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: how much you planning no downloading
[08:06] <FordPrefect> think of the dumb thing that I did today XsesA
[08:06] <kuja> I find that 80% of the stuff on my filesystem, the important stuff, are in my home.
[08:06] <Willster> XsesA it's up to you, I usually download to my desktop but you can also download to /home/login/wherever if you don't want clutter
[08:06] <ajopaul_> majyk, its exchange operations
[08:06] <LjL> XsesA: well that's really up to you, we can't decide for you how much space your windows vs your linux needs...
[08:06] <FordPrefect> I did "find . -type f -exec grep -Hi "foobar" '{}' ';' > foo
[08:06] <FordPrefect> but I was in the wrong directory
[08:06] <XsesA> i got 250gigs on ntfs
[08:06] <pike_> XsesA: you goal originally was a shared fat32 partition for linux and windows right?
[08:06] <XsesA> it's not a problem
[08:07] <FordPrefect> had I put foo on my home directory things would have been good
[08:07] <XsesA> that's what ppl adviced to me here
[08:07] <majyk> ajopaul_, thanks
[08:07] <FordPrefect> but since I did it on the / filesystem, I filled up the drive
[08:07] <FordPrefect> which mucked things up
[08:07] <XsesA> i got 20gigs with windows, 55 clear, and 250 ntfs atm with movies and mp3s
[08:07] <FordPrefect> but I know how to resize partitions and move mounts and all that with ease
[08:07] <Virtus> Im trying to install Ubuntu on a Mac G3. But the system wont boot up on the CD "ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso" When Im in the GUI and load the CD, OS 9.2 wants to format it... what am I doing wrong ?
[08:07] <kuja> I'd say, if you were a power user, keeping /var on a separate partition would be good as well :)
[08:07] <pike_> XsesA: you can read ntfs anyway so maybe its not a big problem
[08:07] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: ok get gparted, resize your ntfs to 125GB and have 125GB linux
[08:07] <LjL> XsesA, that would be the safe choice. however, as has been said, windows *can* read and write ext3 if you want it to. i just won't go on and recommend this, because i haven't tried it for myself.
[08:07] <XsesA> yeah i know
[08:07] <FordPrefect> a new user is less likely to make the kinds of advanced muckups that I do and more liekly to have issues with complexity :-)
[08:07] <Shadow_mil2> Well 124GB Linux, 1 GB swap
[08:07] <loko555> james296; start alacart, look for gaim and there is a switch called "start in terminal" or so
[08:08] <markeib> how can i make rar files with the console?
[08:08] <XsesA> how do i resize partition?
[08:08] <kuja> FordPrefect: A new user is less likely to screw up cause they don't delve into those parts that do screw up :p
[08:08] <XsesA> just divide it to other 2 partitions?
[08:08] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: 3 (including swap)
[08:08] <IndyBC> When Edgy Eft stable will be out?
[08:08] <kuja> Well, let's hope he doesn't make a type in a command or something (a good reason why GUIs are around)
[08:08] <kuja> s/type/typo/
[08:09] <XsesA> the swap will be done alone isn't it?
[08:09] <Shadow_mil2> Though swap will be part of your exetended partitions
[08:09] <gnomefreak> IndyBC: oct 26th
[08:09] <Garbaek> Im trying to install Ubuntu on a Mac G3. But the system wont boot up on the CD "ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso" When Im in the GUI and load the CD, OS 9.2 wants to format it... what am I doing wrong ? CD Works fine in windows..
[08:09] <XsesA> i'll just give all the 55gigs to linux
[08:09] <Ramunas> why apt-get source xchat gets me v2.4.4 and not 2.6.6 ?
[08:09] <IndyBC> gnomefreak: ok, thx
[08:09] <LjL> !schedule > IndyBC
[08:09] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: I thnk ubuntu installer makes swap by default
[08:09] <kuja> Ramunas: What repository are you using?
[08:09] <XsesA> cuz i sometimes want to download so i don't move to move to windows just for downloading
[08:09] <Shadow_mil2> XsesA: that will be fine
[08:09] <kuja> Well, the source repository.
[08:09] <Ramunas> kuja: http://lt.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:10] <XsesA> really really thx
[08:10] <XsesA> what the mount command again?
[08:10] <kmaynard> mount
[08:11] <XsesA> i don't need to specify what i want to mount?
[08:11] <kuja> Ramunas: Which version of Ubuntu?
[08:11] <LjL> XsesA: you certainly do
[08:11] <Ramunas> kuja: 6.06, dapper drake
[08:11] <kuja> Hoary?
[08:11] <XsesA> so what's the full command?
[08:11] <LjL> !ntfs > XsesA
[08:11] <XsesA> the partition i want to mount is k: on windows
[08:11] <LjL> XsesA: depends. "mount /dev/something /media/something", at times
[08:12] <LjL> XsesA: well, first you need to find out what "k:" actually is
[08:12] <XsesA> how do i do that?
[08:12] <kuja> Ramunas: The latest source there seems to be 2.6.0, so I'm not sure why you get 2.4.4
[08:12] <LjL> XsesA: what HD is it on? (primary master, secondary slave...?)
[08:12] <XsesA> slave
[08:12] <LjL> XsesA: primary or secondary?
[08:12] <XsesA> umm
[08:12] <XsesA> i'll check
[08:12] <Ramunas> kuja: oh, sorry, just checked sources.list again, and it somehow got set to breezy, instead of dapper. it should be ok now
[08:12] <XsesA> it's my second hardisk tho
[08:12] <kuja> Hm
[08:12] <Mille> Something has happend to my nm-applet. When hovering my mouse over it, it says that "no network devices have been found". So the icon by the clock in the upper left corner is displayed with a litle orange warning triangel on it. How can i fix this? Tried to reinstall it already.
[08:13] <LjL> XsesA: well, if it's seconday slave, it'll be /dev/hdc# most likely, where # is a partition number
[08:13] <XsesA> Primaty ATA channel
[08:13] <LjL> XsesA: you could simply try them all until you find one that mounts as ntfs (use "mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc# /whatever")
[08:13] <LjL> XsesA: oh wait sorry -- secondary slave you said, that's /dev/hdd
[08:13] <XsesA> i'm not sure
[08:14] <XsesA> "primaty ata channel"
[08:14] <mariogdlt> anyone canl help me? i have created a script in my /etc/init.d/ folder and i will want it will be after some minutes be restarted
[08:14] <LjL> XsesA: ok, i'm making a bit of a mess, but /dev/hda is primary master, /dev/hdb is primary slave, /dev/hdc is secondary master, /dev/hdd is secondary slave
[08:14] <XsesA> so i can just try 'em all? :D
[08:14] <LjL> XsesA: if it's primary, then find out whether it's master or slave -- if it's slave, /dev/hdb should be it
[08:15] <XsesA> it should be slave cuz the windows is usually on the master isn't it?
[08:15] <XsesA> and the 250gigs i added later
[08:15] <LjL> XsesA: anyway, i was under the impression that the Ubuntu installed would find and automatically mount (or at least list in /etc/fstab) windows partitions
[08:15] <XsesA> ok thank you
[08:15] <sonium> how can I copy a directory tree recursively over a ftp connection?
[08:15] <XsesA> i can always come here after the install ^^
[08:15] <LjL> XsesA: see if "cat /etc/fstab" lists anything that looks like that ntfs partition
[08:15] <Garbaek> Im trying to install Ubuntu on a Mac G3. But the system wont boot up on the CD "ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso" When Im in the GUI and load the CD, OS 9.2 wants to format it... what am I doing wrong ? CD Works fine in windows..
[08:15] <XsesA> to write that command on the cmd?
[08:16] <LjL> XsesA: yes
[08:16] <Milkyy> Hi, hmm... I get no sound in UT 2004
[08:16] <XsesA> cat is not recognized bla bla bla
[08:17] <LjL> XsesA: ah no sorry, i meant as a *linux* command. from either the live cd, or from your installation when you have it
[08:17] <XsesA> oh ok
[08:17] <XsesA> so after the install i'l do it
[08:17] <osloszo> how can i uninstall a program ? i am new to linux
[08:17] <XsesA> xchat is mirc right?
[08:17] <LjL> osloszo: "sudo apt-get remove packagename"
[08:17] <LjL> XsesA: no, it's an IRC client though
[08:17] <Shadow_mil> osloszo: sudo apt-get remove program
[08:18] <osloszo> ok thanks guys
[08:18] <XsesA> i can enter this channel with that right?
[08:18] <LjL> XsesA: Gaim also supports the IRC protocol (probably better to use X-Chat though)
[08:18] <fweicher> hi there
[08:18] <XsesA> everything in linux is with commands?
[08:18] <LjL> XsesA: you most definitely can
[08:18] <Shadow_mil> XsesA: we turn commands into GUIs
[08:18] <Shadow_mil> and automate them
[08:18] <Shadow_mil> we don't like pain
[08:18] <LjL> XsesA: not necessarily, but text commands are easier to type on IRC than mouse clicks
[08:18] <XsesA> ok :)
[08:19] <nbx909|linux> hello
[08:19] <nbx909|linux> anyone remotly familiar with xorg issues?
[08:19] <fweicher> just some small questions about ubuntu, may anyone answer
[08:19] <XsesA> it will probably be easier for me to understand after i'll install
[08:19] <nbx909|linux> or possible xorg issues
[08:19] <XsesA> cuz i never worked with linux tho
[08:19] <squid0> hi! i'm having some trouble with an HP Omnibook xe4500 under Dapper... X says, 'no screens found'. Can you help me please?
[08:19] <Milkyy> anyone?
[08:19] <nbx909|linux> because on my server i get some type of shaddow
[08:19] <fweicher> a want to change to ubuntu and want to know : does it work with my ati X800 and the 3d desktop?
[08:19] <Shadow_mil> squid0: pastebin xorg.conf and your Xorg log
[08:19] <squid0> the graphics card is an ATI something
[08:20] <XsesA> oh btw, i got amd64, u recommend the 64bit version or 32?
[08:20] <nbx909|linux> 64
[08:20] <squid0> Shadow_mil : ok.
[08:20] <kane77> i just installed iceweasel and it doesnt have a icon on the window :( is there a way to get the icon there?
[08:20] <Garbaek> Im trying to install Ubuntu on a Mac G3. But the system wont boot up on the CD "ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-powerpc.iso" When Im in the GUI and load the CD, OS 9.2 wants to format it... what am I doing wrong ? CD Works fine in windows..
[08:20] <Shadow_mil> XsesA: if you can run 64-bit, do so
[08:20] <LjL> !ati > fweicher
[08:21] <XsesA> ok :)
[08:21] <Shadow_mil> XsesA: Linux does not have the problems that Microsoft has with creating 64-bit OSes ;)
[08:21] <nbx909|linux> i thought it was the monitor but i replaced it and i still get some type of shadow along the right of all bright colors leading in a straight line to the end
[08:21] <fweicher> ati not?
[08:21] <XsesA> yeah that's why i asked :)
[08:21] <fweicher> LjL
[08:21] <fweicher> ?
[08:21] <LjL> XsesA: uh, uhm... actually i recommend 32 bit.
[08:21] <XsesA> O: why?
[08:21] <nbx909|linux> anyone have an idea?
[08:21] <LjL> XsesA: flash, wine, the win32 codecs, and some more proprietary things are unlikely to work on 64-bit.
[08:21] <LjL> fweicher: ?
[08:21] <__zer0__> hey, after installing x-screensavers.. they dont appear on gnome-screensaver's list
[08:21] <__zer0__> is there a command im forgetting?
[08:22] <XsesA> no flash on 64 bit?
[08:22] <fweicher> you wrote !ati ... (not ati)
[08:22] <kane77> LjL: I actualy got flash working (and all the other stuff as well)
[08:22] <kane77> XsesA, : I actualy got flash working (and all the other stuff as well)
[08:22] <XsesA> what happens if i install 32 bit version on 64 bit OS?
[08:22] <Shadow_mil> nbx909|linux: as #xorg
[08:22] <XsesA> you just installed 32bit versions?
[08:22] <nbx909|linux> Shadow_mil, what do you mean?
[08:22] <kane77> well basicaly yes
[08:22] <ScislaC> does anyone know where the remote desktop preferences are saved? (as in configuration file)
[08:22] <FordPrefect> there probably won't be flash for 64 bit anything for some time
[08:23] <Alzi> Hello. Upon installing Ubuntu, I forgot to set the time and now Firefox is complaining about timed out certificates. Also... how to get compositing in Metacity? (I enabled AIGLX..)
[08:23] <Shadow_mil> ask*
[08:23] <nbx909|linux> Shadow_mil, oh ask #xorg
[08:23] <FordPrefect> flash is written as I understand it in assembly
[08:23] <nbx909|linux> thanks
[08:23] <XsesA> kane77: and it works just fine?
[08:23] <pike_> ScislaC: like ~/.vnc/xstartup or whatever?
[08:23] <LjL> XsesA: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-ff0a19a9ff23537e36b3cf9d40b2d8747bd45cd4
[08:23] <kane77> XsesA, yes it works...
[08:23] <XsesA> kane77: any configuration needed to do?
[08:23] <pike_> ScislaC: you might just sudo gdmsetup for some of the remote desktop settings
[08:24] <XsesA> gah
[08:24] <squid0> how do i copy + paste text from a text file to a field in a web form in a command line terminal environment? ie. no X is available
[08:24] <XsesA> need to do some configurations
[08:24] <XsesA> what's wine?
[08:24] <XsesA> and win32 codecs?
[08:24] <kane77> XsesA, well firstly you need to install either iceweasel32 or firefox32 version
[08:24] <LjL> XsesA: wine is a Windows compatibility layer
[08:25] <XsesA> what it does?
[08:25] <LjL> XsesA: win32 codecs are Windows DLLs that you may need to read some multimedia formats
[08:25] <LjL> XsesA: it makes you run Windows programs under Ubuntu
[08:25] <XsesA> oh it makes u run exe files?
[08:25] <XsesA> even games?
[08:25] <LjL> XsesA: some of them.
[08:25] <kane77> XsesA, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537&highlight=flash+64 here is the guide!
[08:25] <FordPrefect> for games you're better off with Cedega
[08:25] <XsesA> oh but no save then :)
[08:25] <FordPrefect> which is a commercial proprietary version of WINE
[08:25] <pluffsy> hi
[08:25] <ScislaC> pike_: problem is that I can ssh into my box, but my vnc is having issues... so I'm looking to either try to re-set my password manually or restart the service... so I guess the Q is... is gdmsetup a command-line utility?
[08:25] <owen_> how do i add an entry to my Gnome Applications Menu?
[08:25] <FordPrefect> I'm even able to play Civilization III
[08:25] <slacktyro> anyone can help me with a sound problem i'm getting?
[08:25] <sykvisii> I need some help configuring the sound on my laptop
[08:25] <sykvisii> plz
[08:26] <MarcN> squid0: no X? How are you viewing the web form?
[08:26] <slacktyro> when i boot the system the sound is working but if i click at the mixer to change something it stop to work
[08:26] <pluffsy> I most have done something very weird on my new ubuntu server because whenever I try to make a write I get the error read-only file system. Err, guess it's kind of a wide question but any idea what might be wrong?
[08:26] <FordPrefect> but it is hit and miss and if you plan on keeping windows around then you'll find win games better with it
[08:26] <ricanelite> Hello all, I need help with two things, I need help installing the lastest Java and getting the lastest of Flash going
[08:26] <FordPrefect> but if not then cedgea is good for games
[08:26] <squid0> MarcN: i want to use elinks
[08:26] <ricanelite> Where do I need to go to get both things?
[08:26] <LjL> !java > ricanelite
[08:26] <LjL> !flash > ricanelite
[08:26] <XsesA> "PC (Intel x86) desktop CD" this version?
[08:26] <sykvisii> alsamixer says no devices
[08:27] <IndyBC> when Python 2.5 will be to the ubuntu repository?
[08:27] <LjL> XsesA: that's the 32 bit version i think
[08:27] <sykvisii> but the device IS there
   im sorry, i don`t know what !ati >  mean
[08:27] <XsesA> the other ones are : Mac (PowerPC) desktop CD and 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD
[08:27] <LjL> !ati
[08:27] <MarcN> squid0: there is a character cell mouse driver you could use.  It has been around forever.  forget what it is called.
[08:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:27] <LjL> fweicher: ^
[08:27] <squid0> MarcN: um. that's only a bit helpful :)
[08:27] <balzac> I can't setup a samba share because of package dependencies
[08:27] <XsesA> yeah it's i386
[08:28] <sykvisii> hello? help?
[08:28] <MarcN> squid0: now you know it is possible...
[08:28] <squid0> lol
[08:28] <MarcN> squid0: gpm
[08:29] <squid0> MarcN: ok, how do i get it? is it an app/a package?
[08:29] <XsesA> LjL: what do i lose if i install 32bit version
[08:29] <DuDReNoV> Anyone heh tryed installing ubuntu on HP Pavilion dv6000 laptop?
[08:29] <Arcanis> Hey, what was that command to reconfigure the X Server via the command line?
[08:29] <MarcN> squid0: sudo apt-get install gpm
[08:29] <LjL> XsesA: some speed, possibly
[08:29] <Arcanis> Dudrenov.. that model sounds familiar
[08:29] <DuDReNoV> Tryed and failed like me :(
[08:29] <kmaynard> Arcainus,  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:29] <MarcN> DuDReNoV: /me using compaq nc6000 laptop
[08:29] <Arcanis> I think that is the one my friend uses
[08:30] <Arcanis> does it have a remote control and a numpad on the keyboard?
[08:30] <XsesA> well just as i am loosing now with windows 32bit, isn't it?
[08:30] <LjL> XsesA: yes
[08:30] <Arcanis> I'm pretty sure that's the one
[08:30] <XsesA> i rather get all worked :}
[08:30] <Arcanis> nVidia 6600GT?
[08:30] <DuDReNoV> Well install gues fine. But after that when you try to boot it just dies on random places
[08:30] <Arcanis> and intel core duo
[08:30] <Vuen> !xwinwrap
[08:30] <XsesA> cuz anyway if i won't play games i won't even feel that perfomance changes
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwinwrap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <ricanelite> when typing in sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[08:30] <ricanelite>  im getting a message for E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-bi
[08:30] <DuDReNoV> it's AMD64
[08:30] <Arcanis> oh
[08:31] <Arcanis> my friend has a core duo model one, he installed the latest ubuntu on it and he even got XGL working nicely
[08:31] <B-Minus_> hey all
[08:31] <jrib> ricanelite: have you enabled multiverse?
[08:31] <amorphous_> can anyone tell me the name of an app to interface with canon ptp camera? i runnning xubuntu so if theres one thats not kde/gnome it's best...?
[08:31] <tom__> does anyone know where i can get xwinwrap?
[08:31] <ricanelite> where I go to do that?
[08:31] <fweicher> is there a chance to get the X800 work with the 3d desktop on ubuntu? With opensuse i`ve had little problems
[08:31] <ricanelite> im a newbie so please forgive me
[08:31] <XsesA> the plugins for firefox works on linux also?
[08:31] <jrib> ubotu: tell ricanelite about multiverse
[08:31] <MarcN> DuDReNoV: I seem to recall something adding some kernel parameters for amd
[08:31] <B-Minus_> i have dhcpclient3, but i cant see it at Boot-up-manager, BUT the thing starts at bootup ... how is this possible ??
[08:31] <jrib> ricanelite: np, we were all newbies at one time :)
[08:32] <IndyBC> does anybody know when Python 2.5 will be to the ubuntu repository?
[08:32] <iLikeSpoons> hey all. so, I want to install a newer version of amarok from the repositories. Since the ubuntu repos only have 1.2.3, I followed the instructions on the amarok homepage, added kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest to the sources.list. and everything's ok, but synaptic reports that it can't find libvisual-0.4.0, as the latest version in the repos is 0.2.0
[08:32] <DuDReNoV> MarcN: any idea where to llok?
[08:32] <FordPrefect> XsesA you'd probably be better off running 32 bit mode for your first forray
[08:32] <FordPrefect> a lot of things have more complex packaging or require compilation even at 64bit
[08:32] <XsesA> yeah that's what i thought
[08:32] <squid0> MarcN: thanks. but i've managed with attaching a file to an email in Gmail! cool, hey
[08:32] <MarcN> DuDReNoV: google? maybe around turning off acpi
[08:32] <XsesA> less trying to make all work =\
[08:33] <iLikeSpoons> I downloaded and compiled libvisual-0.4.0, is there a way for me to tell synaptic that it's installed? Or any idea in what repository it is?
[08:33] <FordPrefect> and flash9 for linux will be out shortly
[08:33] <XsesA> and messing everything up while doing that :)
[08:33] <FordPrefect> I presented with an adobe guy on it at Ajaxworld
[08:33] <FordPrefect> but 64bit isn't even on the map
[08:33] <DuDReNoV> is turning off acpi advisable?
[08:33] <FordPrefect> right now flash7 works in linux but REFUSES to run on 64bit
[08:33] <MarcN> DuDReNoV: it will disable turning off your fans.
[08:33] <Ramunas> can anybody give me their sources list for dapper?
[08:33] <MarcN> DuDReNoV: and other power saving things ;-)
[08:34] <jrib> ubotu: tell Ramunas about easysource
[08:34] <DuDReNoV> that's great far a laptop :)
[08:34] <Ramunas> jrib: thx
[08:34] <Arcanis> is there a way to install ubuntu off the livecd from the command line?
[08:34] <Arcanis> I am having problems with X, my entire screen is just covered in artifacts
[08:35] <__zer0__> is there a command i need to run to make all the x-screensavers appear in ubuntu's screensaver list?
[08:35] <XsesA> thank you very much everyone!
[08:35] <FordPrefect> np
[08:36] <XsesA> btw how the install looks like
[08:36] <XsesA> blue screen like windows? :P
[08:37] <wastrel> ubunto
[08:37] <Samuli^> XsesA, it looks just like the desktop of the OS. Install happens in one window like when you install a game or something on windows.
[08:37] <nbx909|linux> XsesA, it's a blue screen so that it's the last blue screen you see until you reinstall
[08:37] <XsesA> i plan to install it with boot
[08:37] <nbx909|linux> lol
[08:37] <XsesA> O:
[08:37] <Samuli^> install with boot?
[08:37] <designdream> man! finally!
[08:38] <XsesA> burning it to bootable cd
[08:38] <XsesA> how would i rather do that?
[08:38] <XsesA> FordPerfect?
[08:38] <XsesA> LjL?
[08:38] <Samuli^> XsesA, that's how you do the install.
[08:39] <XsesA> isn't it like that?
[08:39] <XsesA> http://static.flickr.com/6/11229311_b90309e46b.jpg
[08:39] <Samuli^> there's no other way other than messing around with vmware.
[08:39] <iamelite> Hello my friends, would any of you be willing to aid me in the "chroot" and such processes of getting my 32 bit programs operation under my nify AMD64/x86_64 Ubuntu?
[08:39] <LjL> XsesA: eh, what?
[08:39] <Samuli^> XsesA, oh right. You have the alternate install CD.
[08:39] <XsesA> how should i install the ubuntu
[08:39] <Samuli^> well it does look like that. Brings back memories :)
[08:39] <XsesA> with bootable CD?
[08:39] <LjL> XsesA: hm, the Desktop CD would be easier to use
[08:39] <XsesA> should i do it from the windows or boot the cd?
[08:40] <Samuli^> XsesA, use the live-cd or desktop CD what ever it's called.
[08:40] <LjL> XsesA: you should boot the CD
[08:40] <XsesA> i downloaded desktop cd
[08:40] <Samuli^> XsesA, download the cd, burn it. Boot from the CD.
[08:40] <XsesA> ok
[08:40] <XsesA> thanks
[08:40] <Samuli^> no problem.
[08:40] <XsesA> at least i have another computer so i can come here and ask questions if i got any prob :)
[08:40] <Squee> iamelite: a 32 bit chroot in a 64bit dapper?
[08:40] <Samuli^> and ENJOY. :)
[08:40] <XsesA> i hope :)
[08:41] <iamelite> SQUEE, i love that comic. Yes that is correct.
[08:41] <Samuli^> XsesA, you can irc while you install the OS.
[08:41] <LjL> XsesA: you should be able to just boot from the Desktop CD and come back here from there
[08:41] <Samuli^> with the desktop CD.
[08:41] <XsesA> isn't it like windows install?
[08:41] <LjL> XsesA: no
[08:41] <XsesA> ohhh
[08:41] <Squee> iamelite: heh alright.  I know of a great tutorial for breezy that works for dapper, hold on lemme find it
[08:41] <owen_> how do you add an entry to the gnome applications menu?
[08:41] <XsesA> i will be in the windows while doing that?
[08:41] <XsesA> or what?
[08:41] <LjL> XsesA: no. you'll be in ubuntu
[08:41] <XsesA> gah i feel stupid :\
[08:41] <rfboehme> when I boot from a fresh install (64 bit 6.06.1), I get a "Bad page state at free_hot_cold_page (in process 'gdm'
[08:41] <Samuli^> XsesA, like I said, it's more like when you have install some program to windows.
[08:41] <rfboehme> message
[08:42] <XsesA> ok i'll probably understand when i'll install
[08:42] <Samuli^> XsesA, the install goes in one window and you're on the desktop free to do what ever you want mean while.
[08:42] <LjL> XsesA: really, just burn the CD, and boot the computer from there... it'll all be clear as soon as you see what's going on
[08:42] <XsesA> yeah probably
[08:42] <iamelite> squee, my friend here says "his name makes me hot"
[08:42] <Squee> iamelite: everyone loves squee
[08:42] <XsesA> oh i read somewhere that i need to write some command for the OS look good
[08:42] <XsesA> (skin)
[08:43] <Squee> iamelite: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575  Do that exactly, but instead of hoary put dapper.  I'm using that right now and it works fine
[08:43] <Samuli^> XsesA, just install the damn thing and worry about other stuff later :)
[08:43] <iamelite> squee, lol Oh damn... i did that... as it said.
[08:43] <Squee> heh, you did hoary?
[08:43] <iamelite> yup
[08:43] <iamelite> well theres my problem
[08:44] <designdream> Samuli^: did you get to playing with vim?
[08:44] <Squee> well, it SHOULd still work... but what problems do you have?
[08:44] <Samuli^> designdream, huh?
[08:44] <iamelite> errors in "passwd" and stuff such when updating or something
[08:44] <designdream> Samuli^: i thought you asked earlier for php editor suggestions.. sorry got you confused
[08:44] <XsesA> :D
[08:44] <designdream> Samuli^: it was Stigi`aw
[08:45] <LjL> XsesA: by the way... i think the Desktop CD doesn't have X-Chat preinstalled. you can use Gaim (that also can connect to IRC)
[08:45] <Squee> iamelite: yea just delete everything in /chroot and redo it with dapper... that should work
[08:45] <Samuli^> designdream, I didn't, but thanks anyways. I didn't know vim could do that.
[08:45] <iamelite> squee- Upon this command     * apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[08:45] <XsesA> which other versions there are?!
[08:45] <__zer0__> can someone help me.. i installed x-screensavers but they dont show up in ubuntus list
[08:46] <Shadow_mil> __zer0__: dpkg -L packname
[08:46] <Shadow_mil> find them
[08:46] <XsesA> Alternate install CD - what's that?!
[08:46] <Samuli^> XsesA, that's what you were using.
[08:46] <xFordPrefect> XsesA there is another video of installing http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6347380926653203943&q=ubuntu&hl=en
[08:46] <xFordPrefect> fast forward all the cheesy parts
[08:46] <Filesystem2> I have installed Ubuntu 5.10 (and now upgraded to drapper, but that's beside the point) and mounted a fat32 partion with edting fstab. Afterwords Win2k says partition is not active and I need to reboot to set active. Reboot=NoGo. Anyone else run into this problem?
[08:46] <method|>  hey i just followed this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271533&highlight=kde+xgl on how to setup bery and xgl. When i try to load up xgl from login it hangs a bit then kicks me back to the login screen. Any help?
[08:46] <XsesA> oh thanks
[08:46] <XsesA> samuli what?
[08:46] <Samuli^> XsesA, err?
[08:46] <pequatre> hey guys. Anyone knows of a good podcast feed to add to add to amarok ? :)
[08:47] <squid0> MarcN, and any others who can help please: for my X config file and X log, relating to my problem with X in Dapper on my HP omnibook xe4500, please look at http://pastebin.ca/199749
[08:47] <XsesA> i didn't understand what you said
[08:47] <slacktyro> anyone is getting bug with sound mixer?
[08:47] <lupine_85> hmm, is it just me or is openoffice2 Calc a PoS?
[08:47] <lupine_85> oops
[08:47] <Squee> method: go to tty1 and type in "glxinfo | grep direct rendering and tell me if it says yes
[08:47] <LjL> XsesA, leave the alternate CD alone and use the desktop CD... the alternate is for when the desktop fails to work for some reason, or for when you want to have more fine-grained control over installation
[08:47] <wastrel> glxinfo | grep render
[08:47] <XsesA> ok
[08:47] <Squee> lupine: honestly alot of that programming is
[08:48] <XsesA> so which version got the xchat? the server one?
[08:48] <pequatre> bbs
[08:48] <Samuli^> XsesA, you WERE using alternate install cd, that is, text-mode install. Now you have hopefully downloaded the desktop CD which is a live cd (boots you into the operating system run from the cd) with functionality to install system to the hard drive.
[08:48] <iamelite> squee... im about to delete "chroot" folder in the file system... is is good or bad ^_+
[08:48] <XsesA> ohhh
[08:48] <LjL> XsesA: no version
[08:48] <XsesA> it was some pictures i found on the web
[08:48] <method|> Squee: yes it said yes
[08:48] <Squee> iamelite: shouldn't hurt anything unless there is anything important in the chroot.  Just make sure to recreat it right there
[08:48] <XsesA> ok now i understand
[08:48] <LjL> XsesA: x-chat has to be installed, it's not there by default IIRC
[08:48] <XsesA> thank you and sorry for all my dumb questions :)
[08:48] <craigbass1976> How do I list the samba shares on the network?
[08:48] <ricanelite> im having a hard time getting this to work
[08:49] <Squee> method: then my suggestion is to go to beryl's wiki and try to do it through there.  That tutorial there is a bit different
[08:49] <azureal> hi, i'll soon be reinstalling ubuntu.  My goal is to just have fluxbox, so I'm not sure which one to download...xubuntu?
[08:49] <method|> i see
[08:49] <Samuli^> XsesA, no problem, I was just as confused at the start.
[08:49] <xFordPrefect> yeah XsesA I'd watch that video and search google vids for a few more before you start...  I think it might make you feel more comfortable
[08:49] <ricanelite> when i type in sudo apt-get update i get this message E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:49] <ricanelite> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:49] <SPho3nix> hey - does anyone know about the "select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out" error on a x60 or a Core Duo machine running Edgy Eft?
[08:49] <Samuli^> well maybe not quite, but still, confused ;)
[08:49] <azureal> i would like the smallest one that would still allow "update-manager"
[08:49] <wastrel> azureal:  install the server version
[08:49] <ricanelite> can some take me step by step for me please
[08:49] <XsesA> well i think when i'll see it i'll just understand how it's working
[08:49] <Stigi`aw> designdream, ye, it seems okay, but I'd like to have some kind of preview :\
[08:49] <esj> does ubuntu use Mac addresses instead of Bus addresses for allocating ETH identifiers?
[08:49] <C-O-L-T> !edgy
[08:49] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[08:49] <xFordPrefect> amazing how much more vid there is for ubuntu than any other distro
[08:50] <xFordPrefect> on google videos
[08:50] <Squee> edgy art got screwed today
[08:50] <xFordPrefect> I just searched "ubuntu" and lots of tutorials and stuff
[08:50] <Shadow_mil> ricanelite: you have another apt running
[08:50] <designdream> Stigi`aw: a preview? explain
[08:50] <C-O-L-T> !schedule
[08:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[08:50] <xFordPrefect> pretty cool I think
[08:50] <Shadow_mil> ricanelite: this includes things like sanyapic*
[08:50] <wastrel> synaptic
[08:50] <designdream> Stigi`aw: you keep firefox open and visible.. have it autorefresh every couple of seconds
[08:50] <iamelite> whats the code to mount to... that... oh man...
[08:51] <iamelite> to read only on an NTFS drive.
[08:51] <Stigi`aw> Hehe designdream, that's perfect ;)
[08:51] <iLikeSpoons> lemme try again - is there a way for me to tell synaptic that I installed something from source?
[08:51] <seamus7> hi all ... just curious ... wondering if many here have kubuntu-desktop intalled as a second gui and wondering what you think might be a strong reason for having it installed in addition to Gnome? I just installed it to check it out but wonder if there's a 'killer app' that perhaps I can only use in Kubuntu that I couldn't use in Ubuntu like I do with Amarok.
[08:51] <Rico-> speaking of NTFS, is write support vaguely safe yet?
[08:51] <azureal> wastrel, what does server install come w/
[08:52] <Squee> ilikespoons: when you build things from source, instead of typing make / make install, get CheckInstall and run that instead.  That will generate a debian package and then synaptic will see it
[08:52] <ricanelite> when i type in sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk i get this message now E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jdk
[08:52] <iLikeSpoons> Squee, thanks a lot
[08:52] <iamelite> is kubuntu 13373& than Ubuntu?
[08:52] <Rico-> seamus7: all kde apps run on gnome, just with differing amounts of kde installed
[08:52] <wastrel> azureal:  it comes with apt, which is all you need to get fluxbox running post-install
[08:52] <Squee> ilikespoons: no problem :D
[08:52] <designdream> it took me forever to ubuntu installed!
[08:52] <squid0> ricanelite : check you have the necessary repostories set up to be used
[08:52] <squid0> i think you need universe or multiverse
[08:52] <squid0> then reload
[08:52] <ricanelite> how can i check that? can you help me because i have no clue
[08:52] <ricanelite> lol
[08:53] <azureal> wastrel, but ubuntu's fluxbox is outdated... i would need some kind of gui to obtain it from source
[08:53] <squid0> !repositories
[08:53] <ricanelite> im a newbie and more to it
[08:53] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:53] <azureal> wastrel, because i suck w/ links
[08:53] <wastrel> azureal:  xubuntu then is probably the smallest
[08:53] <seamus7> Rico-: ahhh ok I didn't know you could use all KDE apps on Gnome. Thx.
[08:53] <squid0> ricanelite : look what ubotu (the bot) said
[08:54] <azureal> wastrel, or should i just download the latest fluxbox source, put it on my windows partition, and share it/install it =P
[08:54] <squid0> MarcN: can you please look at my X stuff? or are you looking at it now?
[08:55] <azureal> wastrel, but i'm afraid of what's going to happen when edgy is officially released
[08:55] <mdasilva> if your ram modules run at a slower speed then your FSB, it will still work but not to the full performance potential correct?
[08:55] <designdream> when linux boots up.. what sets the native resolution of the initial console?
[08:55] <wastrel> azureal:  i'm not sure what your setup is - do you have a ubuntu system running currently?
[08:55] <azureal> wastrel, the "update-manager" package requires ubuntu-desktop
[08:55] <Chamuco> anyone knows if I could recover aext3 partition that I reformatted with reiserfs
[08:55] <azureal> wastrel, yes, currently i do, but i want to format it and install anew
[08:56] <Squee> designdream: the framebuffer driver.  There is a command you can change in the grub list to make it go higher is that is what you want
[08:56] <hubuntu> chamuco I have heard of such tools, but it gets a little complicated when refformating with reiser...
[08:56] <designdream> Squee: once i have booted can it be changed?
[08:56] <hubuntu> try googling for a tool or something
[08:56] <wastrel> azureal:  download xubuntu  - probably the smallest install cd and use that to reinstall ubuntu, then install fluxbox from source.  as far as edgy, i dunno :]
[08:56] <Squee> designdream: as far as i know you have to reboot
[08:57] <designdream> shocking
[08:57] <katsura> bonsoir
[08:58] <katsura> je suis un nouveau utilisateur de Ubuntu
[08:58] <wastrel> !fr
[08:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:58] <Samuli^> katsura, #ubuntu-fr
[08:58] <azureal> wastrel, i had a bad experience w/ manually installing edgy w/ apt and avoiding installing ubuntu-desktop lol
[08:58] <squid0> hi! i'm having some trouble with an HP Omnibook xe4500 under Dapper... X says, 'no screens found'. Can you help me please? I've posted my xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log at http://pastebin.ca/199749
[08:58] <katsura> je suis surpris c'est super, je commencais a dsesprer de Linux, Mandriva avec ca belle interface n'est pas grand chose finalement
[08:58] <katsura> ok
[08:59] <azureal> ubuntu > mandriva  imo
[08:59] <nox-Hand> Hey
[08:59] <nox-Hand> My GFX does not work by boot automaticly X
[08:59] <azureal> squid0, i had that problem too, strangely enough.. it fixed itself =/
[08:59] <nox-Hand> How do I fix  it? (( liveCD ))
[09:00] <freeman> Where can I get a copy of Skype for Linux?
[09:00] <squid0> azureal : hm. thanks. what an anticlimax! :)
[09:00] <iLikeSpoons> Squee, while checkinstall installed it and made a deb package and all, synaptic still doesn't see it :(
[09:00] <squid0> azureal : i'm stuck. my laptop is just not functional :( :(
[09:00] <azureal> squid0, lol, i was experimenting w/ edgy and it broke x
[09:00] <hubuntu> chamuco have a look at this one: http://linux.sys-con.com/read/117909.htm
[09:00] <squid0> azureal : i see
[09:00] <kmaynard> freeman, umm, have you tried skype.com?
[09:01] <Squee> !checkinstall
[09:01] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  -  Please: Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page. - DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[09:01] <iLikeSpoons> ah. awesome, thanks
[09:01] <kmaynard> !update-rc > kmaynard
[09:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about update-rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:02] <freeman> kmaynard:  have skype.com ever worked?
[09:02] <Squee> ilikespoons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall  Says that synaptic should see it
[09:02] <kmaynard> freeman, ive never used it, but its there
[09:02] <azureal> squid0, i remember some recommendations were to go through the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  prompts
[09:02] <hubuntu> Chamuco you can also look at R-Linux it claims to be specifi
[09:02] <azureal> choose your correct graphics driver, etc
[09:02] <hubuntu> cally made for your case: http://ext2.qarchive.org/
[09:02] <freeman> kmaynard: skype.com hasnt been up since 2004
[09:02] <iamelite> Rustay spooons
[09:03] <squid0> azureal : right. thanks. been ther, done that.  Are tapes practical?
[09:04] <iLikeSpoons> nope, I'm trying to get a newer version from the kubuntu repos, since the ubuntu ones only have 1.2.3 and it's currently at 1.4.2
[09:04] <squid0> azureal : i'm gonna try #debian
[09:04] <iLikeSpoons> *1.4.3
[09:04] <azureal> ok, hopefully someone else will know
[09:05] <kmaynard> freeman, http://www.skype.com/download/
[09:05] <freeman> kmaynard: that works?
[09:05] <Squee> ilikespoons: try going to http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories and add all the repositories there.  Then type "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get build-dep amarok" then try to checkinstall amarok's source
[09:05] <kmaynard> are you on the same internet?
[09:06] <kmaynard> i'm looking at the skype page as we speak
[09:07] <freeman> kmaynard: I get network error !
[09:07] <walvaro> hello
[09:07] <azureal> when edgy officially comes out, does anyone know how i'd be able to update to it w/ only fluxbox installed?
[09:07] <walvaro> i need help
[09:07] <nickspoon> azureal: yep.
[09:07] <kmaynard> freeman, who's your isp?
[09:07] <freeman> kmaynard: (I'm in middle east)
[09:08] <freeman> kmaynard:  still want my isp? :P
[09:08] <arepie> is this ATI RADEON CARD http://www.powercolor.com/global/main_product_detail.asp?id=34
[09:08] <nickspoon> azureal: you'd just edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, and change all instances of dapper to edgy.
[09:08] <azureal> nickspoon, i don't quite have the setup yet, but i will soon (server install + fluxbox from source)
[09:08] <nickspoon> !upgrade
[09:08] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:08] <walvaro> i have ubuntu, and i dont know how can i go to the windows partition disc... to get archives
[09:08] <kmaynard> freeman, not really...i'm sure you're being blocked
[09:08] <nickspoon> !ntfs
[09:08] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:08] <walvaro> Yhx
[09:08] <walvaro> thx
[09:08] <kmaynard> encryption is dangerous stuff
[09:09] <nox-Hand> My GFX does not boot X in the Livecd - how do I fix?
[09:09] <azureal> nickspoon, so you're currently running fluxbox?
[09:09] <kmaynard> freeman, you may wanna look into tor
[09:09] <Squee> nox-hand: what does it say?
[09:09] <kmaynard> http://tor.eff.org/
[09:09] <soccio> Hi everybody.
[09:09] <kmaynard> hi
[09:09] <nickspoon> azureal: no, but provided you're running Ubuntu, it doesn't matter which GUI you have.
[09:09] <DragonKing27> sup
[09:09] <soccio> Is there anybody who could help me installing VmWare Workstation on Edgy Eft?
[09:10] <azureal> nickspoon, the thing is, i already attempted to follow those steps w/ my current ubuntu... WITHOUT ubuntu-desktop
[09:10] <kmaynard> soccio, i can try....i run it in dapper
[09:10] <kromel> Soccio, try #ubuntu-1
[09:10] <azureal> nickspoon, it eventually caused some graphical bugs, font errors, and apt errors
[09:10] <shadok> hi
[09:11] <DragonKing27> can u install CPanel/WHM on ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake?
[09:11] <kmaynard> freeman, are you on linux now?
[09:11] <shadok> i'm looking for the name of the package that includes most of the fonts, anyone ?
[09:11] <kromel> soccia, sorry, it's #ubuntu+1
[09:11] <azureal> nickspoon, but apt-get install ubuntu-desktop is a real pain... _just_ to get update manager to work
[09:12] <kmaynard> lol
[09:12] <azureal> oh, i wonder if i use aptitude... and then aptitude remove...
[09:12] <soccio> kmaynard: I also run it in Dapper... but I cannot get it working on Edgy.
[09:12] <nickspoon> azureal: well, problem is, unless you have ubuntu-desktop or something similar, you won't get new packages - only updates of old ones.
[09:12] <nickspoon> !fluxbuntu
[09:12] <ubotu> fluxbuntu is a Ubuntu-derivative based on the FluxBox Desktop Environment. It is lightweight, swift and sleek. | Fluxbuntu Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Fluxbuntu Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/ | The Fluxbuntu Community: http://community.fluxbuntu.org/
[09:12] <DragonKing27> cant u try kubuntu-desktop
[09:12] <DragonKing27> ?
[09:12] <kmaynard> soccio, have you tried the vmware-any-any-update? you got build-essential installed? kernel headers?
[09:13] <kmaynard> nickspoon, what are you talking about?
[09:13] <nickspoon> !fluxbuntu-desktop
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fluxbuntu-desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <nickspoon> never mind.
[09:13] <soccio> kmaynard: actually the problem is that vmware cannot find the linux-header matching my running kernel. Edgy only has linux-header and linux-header-generic. None of them is linux-header-386
[09:13] <nickspoon> kmaynard: azureal wants to upgrade to edgy with only Fluxbox installed.
[09:14] <carlos> can anyone help me mount windows partitions?
[09:14] <nickspoon> so no ubuntu, kubuntu or even xubuntu-desktop.
[09:14] <kmaynard> soccio, uname -a
[09:14] <nickspoon> carlos:
[09:14] <nickspoon> !ntfs
[09:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:14] <soccio> kmaynard: 2.6.17-10-386
[09:14] <shadok> anyone for the system fonts package ? my dad had removed some fonts and I fear some system ones
[09:14] <freeman> kmaynard: Sorry for bothering you -- thanks, I've just entered a proxy, and now I can view it :D
[09:14] <kmaynard> nickspoon, you mean uninstall ubuntu-desktop, then upgrade with fluxbox?
[09:14] <carlos> !ntfs
[09:14] <kmaynard> freeman, dude, no bother
[09:15] <walvaro> sorry but i dont understand what i should to do to see my music and photos that are in the win2000 partition
[09:15] <kmaynard> freeman, where are you anyway?
[09:15] <azureal> nickspoon, fluxbuntu is only in its developmental phase and buggy
[09:15] <nickspoon> carlos: "To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse"
[09:15] <freeman> kmaynard:  uae! ISP: Etisalat --
[09:15] <azureal> nickspoon, plus, it doesnt even say which version is installed..
[09:15] <kmaynard> wow
[09:15] <azureal> (on the fluxbuntu site, that is)
[09:15] <walvaro> i dont understand the help..
[09:16] <iLikeSpoons> woo, finally! Thanks, Squee
[09:16] <freeman> kmaynard: If i download skype.tar.gz, how do I remove it? cause if i were to download it from synaptic, i can easily remove by typing apt-get remove skype .. but how can i remove a software that I've installed from .tar.gz
[09:16] <wastrel> hello
[09:16] <azureal> right, so i guess i'll just server install + fluxbox from source, and hopefully a solution will arise by the time official edgy comes out
[09:16] <Squee> ilikespoons: your welcome :D
[09:16] <nickspoon> azureal: so, you're running ubuntu without ubuntu-desktop or anything of the sort...
[09:16] <iLikeSpoons> though, I couldn't get it to work with apt-get, with synaptic it just worked :P
[09:16] <Truedesi> hello I am a newboob on the Ubuntu platform... I have my box set up and everything I am VNCing from my Windows XP desktop to the ubuntu box but the problem is when I restart the Ubuntu box and it askes me to login.. I can't VNC into the box
[09:16] <kmaynard> freeman, remove the files it created...
[09:17] <azureal> nickspoon, ah yea.. and it was stable until i attempted to upgrade to edgy
[09:17] <freeman> kmaynard:  All the line it has created?
[09:17] <freeman> kmaynard: Is that the proper way to uninstall it?
[09:17] <kmaynard> freeman, if you can, put in in /opt/skype, then you can rm -rf /opt/skype/ if you need to
[09:17] <kmaynard> yup
[09:17] <azureal> nickspoon, i just had the regular gnomish install + fluxbox, and then i pretty much removed everything gnome-related with debfoster
[09:17] <kmaynard> would a clean install be the endof the world?
[09:18] <freeman> kmaynard: hehe,
[09:18] <kromel> of warcraft
[09:18] <kmaynard> LOL
[09:18] <azureal> clean install = admitting defeat =P
[09:18] <kmaynard> not defeat
[09:18] <nickspoon> azureal: in order to upgrade, you'll have to reinstall ubuntu-desktop (or kubuntu or xubuntu-desktop), then get rid of it afterwards.
[09:18] <kmaynard> think of the money you'll save on advil for headaches
[09:19] <kmaynard> you can paypal it to me as a thanks
[09:19] <azureal> nickspoon, nod, so the best way would be through aptitude, not apt, correct?
[09:19] <Truedesi> hello I am a newboob on the Ubuntu platform... I have my box set up and everything I am VNCing from my Windows XP desktop to the ubuntu box but the problem is when I restart the Ubuntu box and it askes me to login.. I can't VNC into the box
[09:19] <azureal> newboob!! ROFL
[09:19] <nickspoon> newboob :)
[09:19] <Truedesi> finally some one is reading my message
[09:20] <nickspoon> Truedesi: only because you said newboob :)
[09:20] <kmaynard> Truedesi, you may want to look into www.nomachine.com
[09:20] <azureal> it's those keywords
[09:20] <raar> Hello, I'm installing Ubuntu and it doesn't seem to be installing grub properly (doesn't write the mbr). So when the installation program reboots, it boots to my old OS (WinXP) or when the installation CD is still in, it starts the installation again - any clue how to get Ubuntu to properly install GRUB (or write it to the MBR)?
[09:20] <kmaynard> it's better than vnc
[09:20] <kmaynard> you'll need nxclient, nxnode, and the free nxserver
[09:20] <DragonKing27> rarr: when it says GRUB loading , hit ESC
[09:21] <DragonKing27> *raar
[09:21] <Truedesi> Kmaynard, if I have vnc working do i have all that
[09:21] <DragonKing27> sorry
[09:21] <azureal> nickspoon, ah, on second thought i'm not sure if i want to go through a server install...i mean which program will it use for partitioning =/
[09:21] <kmaynard> Truedesi, no...nomachine is a seperate thing...something to consider. you could write a script that starts a vncserver session at boot
[09:21] <Terminus> raar: boot from a livecd and try to install it manually i guess... that's all i can think of.
[09:21] <Terminus> !grub > raar
[09:22] <raar> DragonKing27: When is it suppose to say "GRUB loading"?
[09:22] <nickspoon> Truedesi: http://www.odrakir.com/blog/?p=201
[09:22] <azureal> nickspoon, or is it at least semi-graphical
[09:22] <kmaynard> raar, are you booting with the cd in the tray every time
[09:22] <DragonKing27> in  the latter part of your startup
[09:22] <Terminus> raar: oh yeah, make sure your bios isn't prohibiting writes to the mbr.
[09:22] <raar> Terminus: I'm having problems installing grub, as I'm not sure how to define my devices and everything in grub-install
[09:23] <ruyman> whats is the name for amule in ubuntu?
[09:23] <ruyman> i write apt-get install amule but dont work
[09:23] <ruyman> anything idea?
[09:23] <Truedesi> nickspoon, thanks looks good
[09:23] <raar> Terminus: I've checked in there, I even tried with "OS Install Mode" :)
[09:23] <nickspoon> !amule
[09:23] <ubotu> amule: aNOTHER eMule P2P Client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1173 kB, installed size 3212 kB
[09:23] <nickspoon> ruyman: do you have the universe repository enabled?
[09:23] <nickspoon> !universe
[09:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:23] <ruyman> i dont know
[09:23] <Truedesi> nickspoon, I will try it
[09:23] <ruyman> how i can see this ?
[09:23] <nickspoon> probably not then.
[09:23] <nickspoon> !repositories
[09:24] <ruyman> !repositories
[09:24] <walvaro> nickspoon you know a lot of... please help me
[09:24] <Terminus> raar: sorry, that's all i can think of. i've never encountered grub problems that couldn't be fixed by running grub-install manually. =|
[09:24] <siloe> hello Please sugest name software for compreension files format ZIp and split
[09:25] <nickspoon> ruyman: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:25] <nickspoon> walvaro: what do you want to know?
[09:25] <muxx> hello guys. could you please point me at the kernel building HOWTO ?
[09:25] <segfault_> raar, r u installing ubuntu on a sep drive that windows?
[09:25] <Answer> How can I setup Ubuntu to automatically log in as my default user?
[09:26] <Answer> How can I setup Ubuntu to automatically log in as my default user? (without launching gdm)
[09:26] <Terminus> raar: oh, you mean you're not sure whether the drive is hda, hdb, sda, etc?
[09:27] <segfault_> Answer, u can enable auto login in gdm
[09:27] <raar> segfault_: same harddisk, different partition
[09:27] <wastrel> !kernel
[09:27] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:27] <segfault_> Answer, if ur asking how to do this without starting X i dont know if it is possible
[09:27] <Answer> segfault_, no gdm i'm not running any graphical window manager
[09:28] <raar> Terminus: I know it's sda3, but am not sure how to specify that with grub-install.. It's quite complicated to work with, in my opinion
[09:28] <segfault_> Answer, yeah dont know if that is possible
[09:28] <kmaynard> Answer, if you're not running x, why log in automatically?
[09:28] <muxx> ubotu> I need a kernel with APM and !ACPI (this breaks PCI support on my MB).
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I need a kernel with APM and !ACPI (this breaks PCI support on my MB). - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:28] <wastrel> if you boot into single user mode you get a root shell without having to login
[09:28] <carlos> how can I make ubuntu recognize my notebook batery?
[09:28] <Answer> kmaynard, I need to launch a script on boot as a user (not root) I cannot make it work.. I thought if it automatically logs in I could use .bashrc
[09:29] <segfault_> wastrel, iirc some services dont start tho
[09:29] <kmaynard> Answer, i've setup stuff like that in webmin before
[09:29] <Riot777> Answer: u planing it on server ?
[09:29] <Terminus> raar: i see... as far as i remember, it's the drive that should be specified, not the partition, since you're trying to install the mbr. so it should be /dev/sda
[09:29] <Truedesi> I am having problems connecting to this irc server.. irc.hak5.org /#hak5
[09:30] <wastrel> you can use su to run things as a specific user
[09:30] <muxx> guys, another kernel-related question: how do I prevent customly built kernel from getting overridden by later automatic updates ?
[09:30] <chuckyp> whattup peopls
[09:30] <segfault_> muxx, using make-kpkg cmg add --rev somerev option
[09:30] <chuckyp> s/peopls/peoples
[09:30] <kmaynard> Answer, webmin isnt in the repos anymore, you have to go to webmin.com and the the deb...but it has an option to create startup actions, and run them as different users...what are you trying to run>
[09:30] <raar> Terminus: ah okay, I'll give that a shot in a minute, thanks :)
[09:31] <wastrel> su -c whoami <some other user>
[09:32] <Answer> kmaynard, I just need to launch a simple script, so I put it in init.d and rcS.d and but it runs as root
[09:32] <THX-1138> Is there an open source sms server?
[09:32] <wastrel> Answer:  use su to run it as a different user
[09:33] <Terminus> raar: good luck! that advice doesn't come with warranties. =D
[09:33] <wastrel> su -c <command> <user>
[09:33] <wastrel> teh ae3som3
[09:33] <wastrel> er. aw3s0m3
[09:33] <carlos> Hi. how can I make ubuntu recognize my notebook batery?
[09:33] <raar> heheh ;]
[09:33] <muxx> segfault_> is this covered anywhere in the documentation ?
[09:34] <vorbis> se a qualcuno puo' interessare ho gli album Prodigy: The Fat of the Land e NYCC: Greatest hits in formato ogg vorbis. ho anche un bel po' di musica ambient in tale formato.
[09:34] <Terminus> raar: weird how it couldn't install the mbr though... i've never installed an OS that couldn't write to the mbr.
[09:34] <segfault_> muxx, install kernel-package, then man make-kpkg
[09:34] <wastrel> looks portugese
[09:34] <wastrel> !pt
[09:34] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:34] <kmaynard> carlos, what you mean, recognize it?
[09:34] <AsheD> how do I burn an audio CD in Ubuntu?
[09:34] <THX-1138> eureka! SMS  (Is Ubuntu Linux cool H*** yes!)
[09:35] <Squee> does anyone here know how a "chillispot" works?
[09:35] <vorbis> sorry, wrong channel.
[09:35] <segfault_> muxx, make-kpkg is the debian script to build kernels/modules etc for u it creates debs then u just use dpkg to install the new kernel, soooo much easier :)
[09:35] <Tallen> AsheD: check out K3b good stuff.
[09:35] <wastrel> vorbis:  so was i right?
[09:35] <Squee> segfault & mux: or check out moldule-assistant
[09:35] <raar> Terminus: I tried this an hour ago or so: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-a0b7dbaec35668690d12cc1b9a681d218c4ae89b - at point 5 it says "Do not format them", however the Ubuntu installation program tells me it has to format the filesystems needed by ubuntu in order to install the OS. After that there's no "Install Grub" anywhere..
[09:35] <Squee> !module-assistant
[09:35] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2 (dapper), package size 72 kB, installed size 368 kB
[09:35] <Truedesi> how i connect to irc.hak5.org server
[09:35] <ephemeros> yo \m/
[09:35] <DragonKing27> Can you install CPanel/WHM in Ubuntu?
[09:36] <Terminus> AsheD: you could also just insert a blank cd and wait for a dialog to come up on what you want to do with it. it'll launch serpentine if i remember correctly.
[09:36] <raar> Terminus: yeah, I was quite confused too - I've been trying around with this for atleast 15 hours now
[09:36] <segfault_> Squee, yeah, but he was asking about building a kernel
[09:36] <Squee> segfault: oh ok
[09:36] <carlos> kmaynard, it appers that my notebook is always plugged, even when it`s not.
[09:36] <kmaynard> carlos, you using gnome?
[09:36] <Terminus> raar: is that a custom box or not?
[09:37] <carlos> kmaynard, yes..
[09:37] <Terminus> raar: i'm just guessing but it might be some weird dell/hp/whatever thingy.
[09:37] <raar> Terminus: it's a dell, some custom components, but they're all quite standard for a desktop pc
[09:37] <kmaynard> carlos, edgy has gnome 2.16, which is supposed to have better power options http://www.gnome.org/start/2.16/notes/en/rnfeatures.html
[09:37] <vorbis> vastrel, i've written the message in the wrong channel.
[09:38] <wastrel> vorbis:  is it portugese?
[09:38] <segfault_> carlos, u cna check /proc/acpi/battery/ for any present batteries, if kernel doesnt recognize, i dont think there much u can do but wait for edgy and hope that will see ur battery
[09:38] <Terminus> raar: coz i was thinking it might be something weird with their recovery partition and stuff. did you check if the bios prohibits mbr writes?
[09:38] <vorbis> wastrel, who is portuguese?
[09:38] <slacktyro> i'm brazilian
[09:38] <wastrel> vorbis:  what you wrote - what language is it?
[09:38] <slacktyro> i can speak portuguese
[09:39] <vorbis> wastrel: italian
[09:39] <Squee> does anyone here know how a "chillispot" works?
[09:39] <wastrel> ah thank you.
[09:39] <ntc> hi, anyone around that can tell me how to change the console font?
[09:39] <wastrel> italian, i was wrong :]
[09:39] <vorbis> wastrel, np :)
[09:39] <carlos> kmaynard, ok.. thanks =)
[09:39] <vorbis> wastrel: are you american?
[09:40] <slacktyro> i'm having problems with my sound
[09:40] <wastrel> vorbis:  yes
[09:40] <slacktyro> anyone can help me?
[09:40] <carlos> segfault, thanks..
[09:40] <ntc> I want to use the lucida p console font
[09:40] <ntc> :S
[09:40] <ntc> no idea how to fix that...
[09:40] <wastrel> ntc:  check the forum mabye
[09:40] <ntc> I have..
[09:40] <ntc> lots
[09:40] <vorbis> wastrel: in america very few people uses linux too?
[09:41] <ntc> many says I can use "consle-setup"
[09:41] <wastrel> vorbis:  very few, 2-5% i think.
[09:41] <ntc> but there is no such app
[09:41] <slacktyro> i thought that most part of the linux users were from america
[09:41] <method|> i just installed xgl and beryl. when i try to start xgl from the kde login menu it logs in then the screen goes to black and white dots with the X cursor then kicks me back out to the login screen. Any ideas?
[09:41] <raar> Terminus: I've installed quite a few OSes in this system before and never had any problems, I've even enabled "OS Install Mode" in my BIOS.. Couldn't find anything that looks like a read only setting for the MBR :(
[09:42] <segfault_> ntc, its been a while but try the file /etc/console-tools/config
[09:42] <Terminus> raar: well, i'm out of ideas. =(
[09:42] <Wheelybin> !printing
[09:42] <vorbis> wastrel: here in italy only some universitary student uses it... and some server run linux... but normally an italian don't know linux at all
[09:42] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:42] <LjL> raar: is "virus check on boot" or something usually, i think
[09:43] <ntc> segfault_, I looked in to that one
[09:43] <ntc> but there is one problem
[09:43] <ntc> I dont know what name to use for lucida font
[09:43] <ntc> the specific font I want
[09:44] <ntc> how can I get that?
[09:44] <TheGateKeeper> ntc: this any help? ---> http://penguinslair.org/wiki/index.php/Bash_prompt
[09:44] <xroach> hi
[09:44] <ntc> TheGateKeeper, I'll look thx
[09:44] <vorbis> !streamripper
[09:44] <ubotu> streamripper: download online streams into mp3 files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.61.17-1 (dapper), package size 59 kB, installed size 172 kB
[09:45] <TheGateKeeper> ntc: np :-)
[09:45] <raar> Terminus: alright, thanks very much for your help, I'll give it another shot
[09:45] <raar> LjL: I'll have a look, thanks
[09:45] <vorbis> someone here use streamripper?
[09:45] <xroach> could anyone help me with a network-manager-gnome problem. I doesnt anymore show my wireless connection.
[09:45] <segfault_> ntc, sry i dont recall where to find font names, maybe xfontsel will help, not sure tho
[09:45] <ntc> thx I'll look in to that too :P
[09:46] <Wheelybin> Oh nose! Canon no longer has their driver for the IP1000. www.google.com (Yes I know, why am I typing the url here? Because then I can click on it)
[09:47] <Filesystem2> Are there any real differences between this 3 alternatives in fstab: ###Alt. 1 /dev/hda5 /media/fat32 vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 ###Alt. 2 /dev/hda5 /media/fat32 vfat user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 ###Alt. 3 /dev/hda5 /media/fat32 vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0
[09:47] <Filesystem2> Are there any real differences between this 3 alternatives in fstab: ###Alt. 1 /dev/hda5 /media/fat32 vfat users,gid=users,umask=0002,utf8=true 0 0 ###Alt. 2 /dev/hda5 /media/fat32 vfat user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 ###Alt. 3 /dev/hda5 /media/fat32 vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0
[09:47] <Wheelybin> !uninstall
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <Wheelybin> !remove apps
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remove apps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <Vuen> awesome
[09:48] <TheGateKeeper> apt-get remove <package name>
[09:48] <segfault_> Filesystem2, man mount can answer that
[09:48] <xroach> could anyone help me with a network-manager-gnome problem. It doesnt anymore show my wireless connection.
[09:48] <voltz> is one desktop manager better than another or things are just done differently ie: gnome or kde ??
[09:48] <Wheelybin> This might sound like an odd request, but I want to uninstall firefox from my system, as I prefer swiftfox. Or is swiftfox a mod that depends upon firefox?
[09:48] <Filesystem2> segfault_: Just looking for a more human readable info...
[09:49] <wastrel> voltz:  it's all personal preference
[09:49] <muxx> segfault_> how do I make the newly-built kernel and its boot options persistent over automatic updates ?
[09:49] <voltz> wastrel, thanks
[09:49] <segfault_> voltz, there isnt really an answer to that its all opions
[09:49] <segfault_> voltz, s/opions/opinions/
[09:49] <segfault_> Filesystem2, man mount is human readable
[09:50] <voltz> yup, I thought so,new to all this ;), I might just revert back to gnome
[09:50] <narasim_7> voltz: and leads to (un)necessary debates too
[09:50] <da_dudadi> hello
[09:50] <da_dudadi> I have a question about updating a video driver
[09:50] <voltz> narasim_7, I hear that
[09:50] <da_dudadi> how do you terminate the "X" server?
[09:50] <segfault_> muxx, add ur entry before or after the automagic kernel list in menu.lst
[09:50] <Wheelybin> !swiftfox
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swiftfox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <Filesystem2> da_dudadi: Ctrl alt backspace
[09:51] <Wheelybin> !xscreensaver
[09:51] <ubotu> xscreensaver: Automatic screensaver for X. In component main, is optional. Version 4.23-4ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 270 kB, installed size 2228 kB
[09:51] <BoyBach> Hello, how do I search for a mysql channel if there is one?
[09:51] <segfault_> da_dudadi, ctrl-alt-backspace or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:51] <muxx> segfault_> hm, so far it got overwritten every time there's a kernel update installed
[09:52] <segfault_> muxx, find this line in lenu.lst ### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[09:52] <muxx> segfault_> maybe I am adding it in the wrong place
[09:52] <muxx> segfault_> I see now, sorry
[09:52] <segfault_> muxx, add ur kernel entry prior to that, it will not be touched by update-grub
[09:53] <BoyBach> -u
[09:54] <Wheelybin> Am I the only one that uses swiftfox then? It says it's the default screensaver, but a lot of apps are quite happy to open up firefox instead
[09:54] <da_dudadi> How do I turn off the X-server?
[09:54] <Enselic> !wmv
[09:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:55] <Filesystem2> segfault_: If mounting a fat32 drive did not cause problems with win2k reading it afterwords, I wouldn't come here looking for answers why things go so wrong. I'll remove the linux partitions and fat32 and try with a newest ubuntu from start.
[09:56] <da_dudadi> How do you turn off the X-server?
[09:56] <Trae> Is there a GUI tool that easily allows me to edit grub?
[09:56] <Wheelybin> !screensaver
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensaver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <da_dudadi> !x server
[09:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:57] <Trae> I want to add /dev/hda5 as a bootable option.
[09:57] <narasim_7> !grub
[09:57] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:57] <highneko> Is it possible to change the workspace/desktop background color using bash?
[09:57] <voltz> I installed kubuntu-desktop with apt-get install * then jsut removed it with apt-get remove yet many icons and menu items remain,how to clear those please
[09:58] <Wheelybin> I have another question! Is there another screensaver application besides Ubuntu's default I can use? I want more buttons to press
[09:58] <FunnyLookinHat> Someone should really create a grub recovery CD or something   : )
[09:58] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: do u wish to login without X..
[09:58] <YoG> can someone help me setting up my wifi?
[09:58] <da_dudadi> Yes i want to log in without X
[09:58] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: that is boot into command line...?
[09:58] <da_dudadi> yes
[09:58] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: u can change the runlevel in /etc/inittab
[09:59] <da_dudadi> in the terminal?
[09:59] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: default is 5 for X and 3 for command line... not sure about 4
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> da_dudadi: you can log into a fail same terminal
[10:00] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: u want the login screen to come and then login to command line?
[10:00] <YoG> can someone help me setting up my wifi? please?
[10:00] <xroach> can anyone help me with a small network-manager-gnome problem?
[10:01] <LimonJalisciense> xroach what's your problem?
[10:01] <da_dudadi> i do not see an initab folder
[10:01] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: inittab is a file
[10:02] <freeman> YoG: Sure :)
[10:02] <freeman> da_dudadi:  it's in /etc/inittab
[10:02] <Zoffix> Hi, is it possible for each workspace to have a separate background? I can't find how =/ using Gnome
[10:02] <da_dudadi> all i have is /etc/init.d
[10:03] <YoG> freeman: thanx, I managed to make the usb dongle to work, I can see on my router that the wifi is connected, but on the ubuntu side i don't have any network.... :(
[10:03] <xroach> LimonJalisciense im was trying to set up my wifi to work and it was almost running, got the drivers and all installed but then when i booted my network-manager-gnome didnt show my wlan0 anymore.
[10:03] <YoG> freeman: I have configured the IP, subnet, gateway & dns, so I dont know what else I can do
[10:03] <xroach> it disappeared
[10:03] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: from where are u checking this? terminal or File manager?
[10:03] <xroach> it disappeared
[10:03] <YoG> freeman: btw I'm running 5.10
[10:04] <gbrent> I tried this command tail -f /export_local/smsgw_usa/logs/server.log | awk '{print $1, $6, $10}' | egrep 'SenderWorker' but I get an error:awk: record `13/10/06 6:02:18:Sen...' too long
[10:04] <gbrent> anyoe help me with that?
[10:04] <freeman> YoG: Is this pcmcia card or integrated wifi?
[10:04] <rambo3> xroach, what driver
[10:04] <YoG> freeman: usb
[10:04] <da_dudadi> i am in file manager
[10:04] <xroach> cant remember but It worked before that Im sure
[10:04] <da_dudadi> i just found it
[10:04] <rambo3> YoG iwconfig
[10:05] <da_dudadi> I don't want it to be turned permanently
[10:05] <freeman> YoG: Do you see the wifi connection in system > adiminstration > network ?
[10:05] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: ok
[10:05] <xroach> but how is it possible that it doenst shot it anymore?
[10:05] <da_dudadi> just once is there a way to do that?
[10:05] <YoG> freeman: yes
[10:05] <xroach> im using ndiswapper
[10:05] <YoG> freeman: I also see it on the router side
[10:05] <Zoffix> stupid x-chat-gnome =/
[10:05] <xroach> knetworkmanager doesnt show it anymore either
[10:05] <YoG> free: i.e. i see a connection from that card
[10:05] <freeman> YoG: That's great .. what else do you see under network? Ethernet connection?
[10:06] <Zoffix> does anybody have any idea regarding my question?
[10:06] <rambo3> i know 0 about ndiswraper , only native drivers
[10:06] <freeman> Zoffix: what is your question?
[10:06] <YoG> just a modem, I dont have another lan card installed
[10:06] <xroach> yeh but the drivers work
[10:06] <da_dudadi> is there a way to turn off x server just once?
[10:06] <YoG> freeman: just a modem, I dont have another lan card installed
[10:06] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: see.. if u do a sudo vi /etc/inittab in the terminal  and then change the default runlevel ..after the restart u wont get ur login window ..u will go straight to the command line..
[10:06] <freeman> rambo3: you can install windows driver on your ndiswrapper
[10:06] <xroach> its not a drivers problem
[10:06] <freeman> YoG: Is the modem connected activated? If so, deactivate it
[10:06] <narasim_7> da_dudadi: left alt+ctrl +f1 will give u the command line
[10:06] <suntzu> can someone help with edgy analog joystick setup please?
[10:07] <rambo3> freeman, know that much , only didnt use it
[10:07] <freeman> rambo3: Why do you need ndiswrapper? To get your wifi up and running?
[10:07] <narasim_7> then left alt+ctrl+f7 will bring u back to ur x session
[10:07] <YoG> freeman: I think it's deactivated, I need to check, but in the ifconfig i only see the wlan0  and the loopback... just a sec. I'll check
[10:07] <rambo3> freeman, i didnt ask any  question .
[10:08] <freeman> YoG:  type -> ifconfig wlan0 .. Does it give you the inet addr ?
[10:08] <freeman> rambo3:  that's why I'm asking the question :)
[10:08] <Enselic> Does any one here successfully stream WMV from firefox?
[10:08] <freeman> that *
[10:08] <YoG> freeman: modem is deactivated... I'll check the ifconfig, brb
[10:08] <freeman> Zoffix: I use irssi, sorry :)
[10:08] <gbrent> I get an error:awk: record `13/10/06 6:02:18:Sen...' too long with this command. Why?   tail -f /export_local/smsgw_usa/logs/server.log | awk '{print $1, $6, $10}' | egrep 'SenderWorker'
[10:08] <rambo3> no i have rt61 driver that work nativly , was telling YoG
[10:08] <freeman> YoG: ifconfig wlan0 (include wlan0)
[10:09] <Zoffix> freeman, is it possible to set different background images for each workspace, I'm using gnome
[10:09] <xroach> freeman do you know what might be the problem when network manager doesnt show wlan0 anymore
[10:09] <xroach> booted and it was gone:(
[10:09] <Zoffix> freeman, ok, what is the problem with irssi? :)
[10:09] <xroach> :
[10:09] <xroach> booted and it was gone:(
[10:09] <Alzi> How to remove every configuration Firefox has left on my account? i had invalid time and now it says the certificate is timed out.
[10:09] <freeman> Zoffix: I thought you were asking something about xchat ;x
[10:09] <YoG> freeman: yes (but DHCP is disabled)
[10:09] <muxx> segfault_> so if I add the kernel before AUTOMAGIC KERNELS, it will be always the default kernel to boot and its options won't change ?
[10:10] <freeman> xroach: is your wifi card supported under ndiswrapper ?
[10:10] <grecko> alguien me puede ayudar a instalar el servidor apache2+php+mysql
[10:10] <freeman> YoG: Is your router dhcp on?
[10:10] <xroach> yeh i got it to work before but now its gone
[10:10] <YoG> freeman: yes
[10:10] <YoG> freeman: both static and dynamic
[10:11] <freeman> xroach: check your system > administration > windows device driver .. See if the .inf file is still there
[10:11] <freeman> YoG: Tried giving your wlan0 a static ip??
[10:11] <Zoffix> freeman, hehe, no I said that x-chat-gnome sucks, it crashed and woundn't start again :D
[10:11] <YoG> freeman: yes,
[10:11] <freeman> Zoffix: use irssi (like me) .. you won't regret it! :)
[10:11] <YoG> freeman: I don't use the dynamic DHCP.
[10:11] <s_spiff> some1 gimme a good substitute for Gaim 1.5!! is there something better?
[10:12] <xroach> neti2220 Hardware present: yes
[10:12] <freeman> YoG:  can you access your router homepage from your wireless ?
[10:12] <ROBOd> my video card slot changed
[10:12] <Zoffix> freeman, I like the pretty colors :D Although irssi helped me when I killed my X :D
[10:12] <ROBOd> how to redectect my video card?
[10:12] <ROBOd> for xorg
[10:12] <freeman> xroach: deactivate, and re-activate your wireless lan, and try again
[10:12] <Admiral_Chicago> i use bitchx for that
[10:12] <wastrel> nothing wrong with bitchx but the name
[10:12] <xroach> how can I do that?
[10:13] <freeman> Admiral_Chicago: bitchx is seriously bitch .. :P I hate bitchx ;X
[10:13] <YoG> freeman: no :(. can't even ping the router from ubuntu, or ubuntu from the router.
[10:13] <freeman> YoG: Has it ever worked?
[10:13] <Admiral_Chicago> freeman: its came through in a pinch
[10:13] <segfault_> muxx, its options wont change but the default boot kernel is determined by the default item in the menu.lst file
[10:13] <YoG> freeman: in general? it works on windows XP. this is the first time i'm trying it with linux.
[10:14] <freeman> Admiral_Chicago:  yea, well - it's a matter of choice :) I like irssi,
[10:14] <segfault_> muxx, if default is 0 then yes it will be the default kernel to boot
[10:14] <freeman> YoG: What is the brand, model of your wireless?
[10:14] <xroach> freeman how do i restart my wireless?
[10:14] <freeman> xroach: use ifdown ifup
[10:14] <muxx> segfault_> make-kpkg has quite a few options... 8)
[10:14] <freeman> ifdown wlan0, ifup wlan0
[10:14] <freeman> xroach:  ^^^
[10:15] <YoG> freeman: Acer Warplink USB Adapter
[10:15] <segfault_> muxx, make-kpkg --rev something.1 kernel_image should be all u need
[10:15] <freeman> YoG: Hold on, let me check it!!..
[10:15] <YoG> freeman: thats what lsusb says anyway
[10:15] <muxx> segfault_> will it launch the menuconfig or do I have to do it beforehand ?
[10:15] <segfault_> muxx, if u use nvida or other modules u can also add modules_image
[10:15] <e-head> Hey guys
[10:16] <piotr_> hi
[10:16] <sureshot> hey i am running gparted on a 250 gb off of a usb to sata converter when i try to access the drive it says unreconizable disk lable and i cant change it is there somthing else i need to do to get this thing runing
[10:16] <segfault_> muxx, no it will do text based config, best to config ur kernel first
[10:16] <piotr_> 1) how do I check what version of Ubuntu I'm running?
[10:16] <orion2012> piotr_:  lsb_release
[10:16] <segfault_> muxx, also if ur using an initrd u may need some options for that i forget, as i never build kernels that need an initrd
[10:16] <orion2012> piotr_: just kidding
[10:17] <azureal> lol
[10:17] <xroach> freeman it say No DHCPOFFERS received.
[10:17] <freeman> xroach: you haven't set up your wifi correctly.
[10:17] <YoG> freeman: btw, I installed openssh-server and I cant ssh myself on the ubuntu machine, maybe there is a firewall or smoething like that? It gives me: "...port 22: connection refused".
[10:17] <wastrel> wow they just found a bacterium with fewer than 200 genes
[10:17] <azureal> piotr_, i believe it's just  "uname -a"
[10:17] <piotr_> then how
[10:17] <wastrel> 150ish
[10:17] <xroach> but it worked before
[10:18] <wastrel> that's amazing 100%
[10:18] <Ramunas> night everybody
[10:18] <wastrel> piotr_:  lsb_release -a
[10:18] <gourdin> wastrel: where ?
[10:18] <gourdin> wastrel: got an url ?
[10:18] <sureshot> hey i am running gparted on a 250 gb off of a usb to sata converter when i try to access the drive it says unreconizable disk lable and i cant change it is there somthing else i need to do to get this thing runing
[10:18] <muxx> segfault_> I don't think I need initrd but afais it is used bu default installation
[10:18] <wastrel> gourdin:  nature.com  - listening on the radio.
[10:18] <wastrel> ah here it is. 182
[10:18] <chuckyp> sureshot, did you try fsck 'ng it?
[10:18] <gourdin> wastrel: thx
[10:19] <wastrel> http://www.nature.com/news/2006/061009/full/061009-10.html
[10:19] <gourdin> thx
[10:19] <azureal> fsck definitely has to be the funniest command
[10:19] <segfault_> muxx, yes it is used by default install, to avoid biuld all the drivers u need to boot into ur kernel
[10:19] <e-head> Why would apt-get report "The following packages have been kept back:" ?
[10:19] <e-head> I was trying to do a "apt-get -u upgrade"
[10:19] <abo> anyone knows if there is a googledesktop for linux/ubuntu?
[10:19] <xroach> freeman it worked fine before i just used the ndiswapper and network-manager-gnome but after I booted or something it disappeared
[10:20] <e-head> There are 83 packages listed.
[10:20] <sureshot> chuckyp i am not familer with the acronim can you if you would explain a little futher
[10:20] <The_Machine> okay
[10:20] <The_Machine> um
[10:20] <azureal> lol googledesktop...rofl
[10:20] <The_Machine> i run ubuntu dapper inside VMware at work
[10:20] <The_Machine> on an XP box
[10:20] <The_Machine> i want to dual boot
[10:20] <abo> azureal, what's that?
[10:20] <abo> azureal, rofl?
[10:20] <The_Machine> ...but my entire HDD is formatted as NTFS
[10:20] <wastrel> fsck is a command i believe it means file system check
[10:21] <azureal> abo rofl = rolling over, falling laughing
[10:21] <The_Machine> and i'm kind of nervous about borking up this PC, although i feel more comfortable with linux every day
[10:21] <The_Machine> so, erm.
[10:21] <segfault_> e-head, sounds like it needs to install some new packages to update some others, try dist-upgrade
[10:21] <e-head> yeap.  That did it.
[10:21] <abo> azureal, should I take it as a no?
[10:21] <muxx> anyone knows since when APM got disabled in pre-compiled kernels ? I found that after the update APM doesn't work any longer
[10:21] <e-head> I was just reading around.
[10:21] <e-head> This box was a "hoary" box a while back.
[10:21] <pike_> abo: are you looking for some search applet for the gnome-panel or what?
[10:21] <azureal> abo, i actually didn't think such a thing existed.. but then i googled it... it's just an _application_ for windows
[10:21] <sureshot> wastrel thanks i will try it i just read that it is a 3gb drive i may have to jumper it to 1.5 i will try that if this all works
[10:21] <e-head> Will a dist-upgrade cause any trouble ?
[10:21] <The_Machine> what's a good (free) way to make it so my NTFS formatted HDD is now only half way formatted with NTFS so i can try and dual boot ubuntu?
[10:21] <UbuntuGuy> How should I install 32-bit libraries on my amd64 box (to run apps like skype)?
[10:22] <THX-1138> The_Machine, Have you compared VMWare to Xen?
[10:22] <The_Machine> no.
[10:22] <azureal> abo, desktop implies a whole bunch of things in linux
[10:22] <wastrel> sureshot:  be careful, it can damage your filesystem, it's best to read the manual first.
[10:22] <The_Machine> i've just used VMWare.
[10:22] <e-head> segfault_: btw, I found a partition image tool. partimage. and a rescue disk to make/restore them.
[10:22] <The_Machine> it works fine
[10:22] <piotr_> ubutu live cd should be able to resize partitions
[10:22] <YoG> freeman: and another thing, I can see the ssid from ubuntu, that also may imply that its not a hardware problem
[10:22] <THX-1138> Me either
[10:22] <The_Machine> i just want to be able to use all PC power when in ubuntu
[10:22] <The_Machine> and run XP in vmware :)
[10:22] <pike_> The_Machine: if you go to gparted website they have a livecd that can resize for you
[10:22] <The_Machine> as i want linux to be the primary OS
[10:22] <tk> UbuntuGuy: google flash on 64bit ubuntu and you will find a website with a blog about installing all the 32bit stuffo n 64bit
[10:22] <sureshot> wastrel thanks for the worning i say that and canceled untill i can see what i am doing
[10:22] <Exclamation> The_Machine: Just use gparted to resize it. But make sure you backup 1st, just in case.
[10:22] <freeman> YoG: you could try assign ip automatically (using dhcp)
[10:22] <The_Machine> hmm
[10:22] <abo> pike_, I use it a lot on my windows box, hit CTRL twice, type a few letter .. and you get what you want ... real nice
[10:22] <The_Machine> okay.