[12:00] <Milk_> Natx, ytes
[12:00] <Milk_> yes even
[12:00] <belal122> well i'd like to help you guys but i never tried file sharing with xp systems on my network.  this (my) comp. is away from the family computers
[12:00] <DF2> i'm trying to config pppoeconf and it fails but afterwards i see in the terminal... modeconf: command not found.. any ideas ?????????????????
[12:00] <[t0rc] > NoUse: im not using apt get or synaptic or whatever.
[12:00] <[t0rc] > NoUse: im downloading manually.
[12:00] <belal122> u might wanna try some samba channels for help though
[12:00] <Natx> Milk_: have you created a unix account and a smbpasswd execution related to it?
[12:00] <NoUse> [t0rc]  why?
[12:01] <[t0rc] > NoUse: uhg. because the linux pc isn't on the net yet.
[12:01] <Milk_> Natx, yes
[12:01] <Concord_Dawn> ok
[12:01] <bytefoo> is there a way i can refresh my network interfaces? it seems that if i remove the cat5 cable, and then place it back in it won't work, and that I have to reboot to get an ip address assigned to it
[12:01] <Natx> Milk_: then your unix account should have the correct permissions to access this share, haven't?
[12:01] <DF2> please someone
[12:01] <Milk_> yep
[12:01] <Concord_Dawn> LasseL, whenever I put that line in my fstab, Ubuntu doesn't mount my iPod
[12:01] <DF2> anyone?
[12:01] <[t0rc] > NoUse: okay, i found it.
[12:01] <Milk_> Natx, yes
[12:01] <NoUse> [t0rc]  build-essentail is a dummy package that pulls down about a dozen other packages
[12:01] <[t0rc] > awww
[12:02] <Natx> Milk_: ok, then, and do you set security = user in global smb.conf?
[12:02] <Milk_> Natx, Yes
[12:03] <moZer> hi, i'm trying to build the tomcat apr connector on ubuntu, but it seems that apr_rules.mk is missing...almost all other distributions package it with apache-dev, in /usr/share/apache2/build, but it's not present in ubuntu
[12:03] <Natx> Milk_: It looks like ubuntu (samba) is configured ok, even when you're using workgroups, nor domains. I don't know if to use domain, means to change something
[12:04] <bytefoo> is there a way to see the version of a package via apt-get, or must i navigate to packages.ubuntu.com
[12:04] <Milk_> Natx, no domains.. don't really want to have to setup a DC
[12:04] <[t0rc] > NoUse: well that could complicate things
[12:04] <Natx> Milk_: Even, try to map the share directly in XP, but I don't know which would be the trouble
[12:04] <NoUse> [t0rc]  yeah, look into apt-zip, maybe that can help
[12:04] <CookedGryphon> how do i make ubuntu play sounds from more than one thing at once?
[12:04] <Milk_> Natx, hrm...
[12:04] <Natx> Milk_: When mapping, mark to use another user, and enter your credentials in ubuntu
[12:05] <[t0rc] > NoUse: alright, thnx.
[12:05] <reiki> you don't need to set up a DC in samba to see the share from an XP machine
[12:05] <NoUse> [t0rc]  build-essential and its deps might be on the install CD
[12:05] <Natx> Milk_: hrm?
[12:05] <dmk> Concord_Dawn, try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[12:06] <dmk> CookedGryphon sorry
[12:06] <Milk_> Natx, its me thinking
[12:06] <Natx> ok
[12:06] <Concord_Dawn> oh
[12:06] <Concord_Dawn> :-P
[12:06] <dmk> Concord_Dawn, sorry :-)
[12:06] <CookedGryphon> okay
[12:07] <Concord_Dawn> np
[12:07] <DewLinux> oh lovely
[12:07] <Concord_Dawn> mplayer is win.
[12:07] <DewLinux> apparently if you enable DRI on this machine, ubuntu will lock up
[12:07] <IcemanV9> what?! mplayer does not support CC??
[12:07] <Concord_Dawn> yes it does.
[12:07] <Concord_Dawn> needs a lib though
[12:07] <Concord_Dawn> afaik
[12:07] <reiki> is there a linux program that'll convert m4p to mp3? :)
[12:08] <IcemanV9> which lib?
[12:08] <DewLinux> umm
[12:08] <DewLinux> you shouldn't have to convert
[12:08] <DewLinux> not for playback
[12:08] <_lui_> question: why amarok doesn't detect my sound system engine?
[12:08] <budluva> how do i find my gtk+ version? im trying to run winetools and its giving me an error /usr/bin/Xdialog: Errror initializing the GUI...Do you run under X11 with GTK+ v1.2.0+ installed?
[12:08] <Concord_Dawn> budluva, look in Synaptic at your gtk+ package version
[12:09] <Natx> would anyone knows why iwlist is telling Input/output error? I dont' see new messages in messages, but ifconfig and iwconfig looks fine (although it remains unassociated)
[12:10] <Oewyn> Can anyone help me with problems getting xsupplicant to work, it seems to authenticate, but can't lease DHCP informatino
[12:10] <belal122> gimp is awesome...but i hate it for its very weird UI design
[12:11] <Natx> bye all
[12:11] <belal122> i can't stand the fact that I can see my desktop and other programs.
[12:11] <Oewyn> belal122:there's always the gimp-shop hack
[12:11] <belal122> yeah but it doesnt get rid of that problem
[12:11] <Snadder> hi... does ubuntu default comes with an apt archive on the internet?..
[12:11] <nevinm> belal122: use a different virtual desktop
[12:11] <BlankB> I always run gimp on its on desktop.
[12:11] <BlankB> own desktop that is.
[12:11] <omp342> i don't like gimp :/
[12:11] <nevinm> Snadder: yeah
[12:11] <omp342> PHOTOSHOP :)
[12:11] <nevinm> omp342: time for a flame war, methinks
[12:11] <_lui_> anyone can help me? why amarok doesn't detect my sound system engine?
[12:12] <belal122> yeah i guess nevin, i do that normally but i wish it didnt have those floating windows.
[12:12] <omp342> nevinm: :P
[12:12] <jo_e> _lui_, you need amarok-gstreamer package
[12:12] <BodaicousB> hey guys, my sound is Really funky, how do i reset the alsa server?
[12:13] <_lui_> jo_e, ok thanks
[12:13] <Seveas> /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[12:13] <BodaicousB> Seveas, thanks again =P
[12:13] <Blissex> BodaicousB: there is no such thing as an ALSA server.
[12:14] <belal122> does anyone know if gaim will ever support skinning?
[12:14] <BodaicousB> Blissex, i know, i knew someone would call me on that right when i said it =P
[12:14] <Oewyn> so anyone have any ideas as to getting xsupplicant to work correctly?
[12:14] <BlankB> belal122: i used to hate the layout until i set up dual monitors and have all the tools on monitor 2.
[12:14] <syn-ack> belal122: prollu not
[12:14] <Blissex> BodaicousB: Seveas: '/etc/init.d/alsa restart' only saves/restores the ALSA config.
[12:14] <Seveas> true
[12:14] <arnehansen> erh, i just installed ubuntu, but i was never asked to set a rootpass while installing
[12:14] <Seveas> pkill esd && esd &
[12:15] <arnehansen> did i just miss something.. ?
[12:15] <Seveas> that will solve the sound server bit
[12:15] <Oewyn> !root
[12:15] <ubotu> I heard root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:15] <Seveas> !root
[12:15] <belal122> arne, ubuntu doesnt use root
[12:15] <Seveas> dang, too slow :)
[12:15] <belal122> they use SUDO
[12:15] <Oewyn> i beat you
[12:15] <arnehansen> oh all right
[12:15] <[t0rc] > NoUse: alright, i'll check. thnx
[12:15] <BodaicousB> ok, i reset also, i think i pinpointed the problem, when i hold my mouse over an mp3 icon, it begins to play?!?! how do i stop that?
[12:15] <arnehansen> thakns, i'll read up on that
[12:15] <arnehansen> *thanks
[12:15] <Seveas> BodaicousB, it's funny when that happens isn't it ;)
[12:15] <Blissex> BodaicousB: many appalling horrors of ALSA are documented and fixed here: http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2
[12:16] <BodaicousB> Seveas, ive never had that before
[12:16] <belal122> welcome
[12:16] <Oewyn> Blissex: any clues as to where to find the solutions to the appalling horrors of xsupplicant
[12:16] <Seveas> BodaicousB, in nautilus go to edit -> preferences
[12:16] <Blissex> Oewyn: you should not ask specific people for help.
[12:16] <Seveas> then the 4th tab ("preview")
[12:16] <Seveas> you can disable it there
[12:16] <DF2> i'm trying to config pppoeconf and it fails but afterwards i see in the terminal... modeconf: command not found.. any ideas ?????????????????
[12:17] <d2dchat> I have two hard drives, one under ubuntu and one under windows
[12:17] <Blissex> Oewyn: however there is a nice article on making 'xsupplicant' work in the current (Sep. 2005) issues of Linux Journal.
[12:17] <d2dchat> how do i read files from the windows machine onto the linux machine?
[12:17] <d2dchat> and can i read files from my windows machine without moving them onto my linux machine?
[12:17] <Seveas> d2dchat, if these files are shared: places -> connect tot server
[12:17] <Seveas> then you can
[12:17] <NoUse> DF2 have you read this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[12:17] <d2dchat> like say, play songs from my windows machine without putting them on my linux HD?
[12:18] <d2dchat> Seveas, so I have to make the files shared ?
[12:18] <BodaicousB> Seveas, worked like a charm, i wonder how that setting ended up active???
[12:18] <BodaicousB> it wasnt like that yesterday.... =/
[12:18] <DF2> yeah i read it but it didnt help
[12:19] <belal122> d2d: to read files from win hd, u'd have to mount the win HD
[12:19] <vbgunz> hello everyone... I have a real frustrating problem... my cdrom doesn't wish to eject... umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[12:19] <vbgunz> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[12:19] <vbgunz> eject: unmount of `/dev/hdc' failed
[12:19] <Milk_> Natx, If your still around, I found a problem, and now have a different problem
[12:19] <d2dchat> belal122, what is the jrward network? it was already on my system?
[12:19] <vbgunz> this happened before but enough is enough... it really is frustrating
[12:19] <Milk_> I unisntalled firestarter and now its asking for auth, but not taking it.. it just keeps asking
[12:20] <vbgunz> can anyone please be kind enough to help me out
[12:20] <d2dchat> belal122, how do i mount the windows hd while running linux at the same time?
[12:21] <d2dchat> belal122, and if i mount it under linux will it effect windows when i log into it?
[12:21] <BlankB> vbgunz: sudo umount /dev/hdc
[12:21] <budluva> anyone here know if its possible to use gtk2 with wine or do i have to use gtk 1.2?
[12:21] <vbgunz> check the ubuntu starter guide for mounting windows within linux
[12:21] <vbgunz> thanks BlankB
[12:21] <vbgunz> will try
[12:21] <ShdwShinobi> Can someone help me with changing my screen's display size? In the options menu, it doesn't display a size higher then 640x480. I don't remember what to edit in the xorg.conf though :(
[12:21] <d2dchat> vbgunz, i dont know where that si
[12:22] <dducko> I have Ubuntu 5.04,  what Kernel am I useing, or How can I check?
[12:22] <BlankB> vbgunz: if that dont work let me know.
[12:22] <vbgunz> quick google for Unofficial Ubuntu Starter Guide will point you in the right direction
[12:22] <geneo93> dducko:  uname -r
[12:22] <jo_e> does anyone know a way to clear the id3 tags of every mp3 file in a directory?
[12:22] <dducko> thanks you
[12:23] <vbgunz> Blank B "device is busy"
[12:23] <basicerly> hi i have a rtl8139 1gb network card that seems to be having irq problems?
[12:23] <basicerly> does anyone have a lanpart nf2 ultra mobo?
[12:24] <_lui_> Seveas, I have this problem http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/1780 can you help me?
[12:24] <BlankB> vbgunz: how aobut: umount -f /dev/hdc
[12:24] <basicerly> or can anyone help
[12:24] <d2dchat> vbgunz, is there anyway to get the guide with apt-get?
[12:24] <fluvvell> basicerly: is it a mobo based nic
[12:24] <vbgunz> d2dchat I don't believe Ubuntu will let you write to your Windows drive.... I believe it will mount read only
[12:24] <vbgunz> yes
[12:24] <vbgunz> one sec
[12:24] <elvirolo> ok, i've been searching the forum for hours, and i get no suitable answer to my own post ... still no one knows about why doesn't lsusb have any output ?
[12:24] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone into routers and stuff? :)
[12:24] <d2dchat> vbgunz, actually, i dont need to download the unofficial guide right? I can just read it from this site?
[12:24] <vbgunz> http://ubuntuguide.org/
[12:24] <fluvvell> basicerly: or is it plugged into one of the pci slots?
[12:25] <NoUse> _lui_ I would delete the file its complaining about and redownload it
[12:25] <vbgunz> ok Blank, will try one sec
[12:25] <vbgunz> thanks!
[12:25] <d2dchat> vbgunz, all i really want to do with the files on windows is play them in xmms
[12:25] <elvirolo> is there a kernel module i have to load or something ?
[12:25] <belal122> xmms?  why do people still use that?  i dont understand.
[12:26] <belal122> isn't bmp a much better fork of it?
[12:26] <vbgunz> I believe you can do that though I haven't tried... if you mount windows in read only you should be able to play media I believe
[12:26] <basicerly> fluvvell: mobo based
[12:26] <belal122> it supports gtk2.  so when u right click in bmp
[12:26] <vbgunz> sorry Blank, I have no idea what the problem is
[12:26] <vbgunz> umount2: Device or resource busy
[12:26] <vbgunz> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[12:26] <vbgunz> umount2: Device or resource busy
[12:26] <vbgunz> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[12:26] <d2dchat> belal122, ive never used bmp.. so i dont know
[12:26] <basicerly> fluvvell: on the lanparty nf2 ultra mobo
[12:26] <belal122> u dont get that NASTY looking gtk1 theme
[12:26] <geneo93> xmms is gtk1 app bmp is gtk2 app
[12:26] <BlankB> vbgunz: lsof | grep "hdc"
[12:27] <BlankB> and dont past here. If you want you can paste to: http://blankb.pastebin.com/
[12:27] <belal122> i like rhythm box.  i like most of the default ubuntu apps.  i just wish u could skin them, god damnit
[12:27] <vbgunz> nothing happened
[12:27] <hawking> how can i install tcl?
[12:27] <belal122> gaim, rhythm box, totem..
[12:27] <fluvvell> basicerly: pity, cos I've had success on plugged in ones by moving them a few slots away from the agp slot.  Not familiar withthe lanparty mobo tho.
[12:27] <hawking> there is no package with the name tcl :/
[12:27] <_lui_> NoUse, I'll try
[12:27] <vbgunz> I mean it came right back to the prompt
[12:27] <basicerly> fluvvell: there is dual lan nf2 chipset comes with a lan and there is a realtek chip on the board to
[12:27] <Seveas> hawking, tcl8.4
[12:27] <basicerly> fluvvell: the realteks the one not working
[12:27] <hawking> thx seveas
[12:28] <fluvvell> basicerly: does that mean two nics onboard?
[12:28] <vbgunz> oh sorry, about pasting
[12:28] <BlankB> vbgunz: how about: umount -l /dev/hdc
[12:28] <vbgunz> what was lsof | grep "hdc" supposed to do?
[12:28] <jrattner1>  when i type lspci -v my sound card is listed with a weird property that saysCapabilities: <available only to root> how do i change it to all users?
[12:28] <BlankB> thats lower case L
[12:28] <vbgunz> back to prompt... should I try to ejct?
[12:28] <BlankB> vbgunz: the lsof will show you if something is holding a file prompt
[12:29] <BlankB> oops...a file open.
[12:29] <basicerly> fluvvell: yes and the one the is working is part of the nforce chipset
[12:29] <BlankB> try eject now.
[12:29] <vbgunz> oh... it came right back to prompt... no verbose output of any kind
[12:29] <vbgunz> ok
[12:29] <fluvvell> basicerly: have you tried    modprobe 8139too ?
[12:29] <vbgunz> oh snap
[12:29] <vbgunz> hold up
[12:29] <basicerly> fluvvell: welll....
[12:29] <vbgunz> the cdrom disappeared from the desktop
[12:30] <vbgunz> will try to eject from cmd
[12:30] <BlankB> -l     Lazy  unmount
[12:30] <vbgunz> I love you!
[12:30] <vbgunz> :)
[12:30] <basicerly> fluvvell: i think its allready working cause the network cards listed
[12:30] <BlankB> 8)
[12:30] <vbgunz> hey, let me write this down
[12:30] <basicerly> fluvvell: or dose that not mean anything
[12:30] <vbgunz> I think the last choice you offered me worked
[12:31] <vbgunz> I have one question
[12:31] <fluvvell> <basicerly: cos irq's don't tend to conflict in linux
[12:31] <vbgunz> does the terminal record what I do?
[12:31] <d2dchat> dude
[12:31] <vbgunz> I mean since I am new I sometimes need to backtrack what I did
[12:31] <d2dchat> this is tight
[12:31] <geneo93> vbgunz:  yes
[12:31] <d2dchat> i have access to my windows drive now
[12:31] <basicerly> fluvvell: i think its allready working cause the network cards listed
[12:31] <d2dchat> :)
[12:31] <basicerly> fluvvell: or dose that not mean anything
[12:31] <fluvvell> basicerly: so you dont have an eth0 and an eth1 available?
[12:31] <basicerly> yes
[12:31] <fluvvell> oh you do?
[12:32] <basicerly> I mean
[12:32] <BlankB> vbgunz: if you are using bash its here: ~/.bash_history
[12:32] <geneo93> vbgunz:  the uparrow will get it back
[12:32] <vbgunz> yead d2dchat, I have both my windows mounted... it really is cool
[12:32] <d2dchat> it rly is:)
[12:32] <basicerly> fluvvell: ubuntu atemps to get eth1 and eht0 going
[12:32] <vbgunz> even after I close the terminal I do have a hostory?>
[12:32] <PDani> hi
[12:32] <geneo93> yes
[12:32] <vbgunz> history*
[12:32] <vbgunz> awesome
[12:32] <d2dchat> vbgunz, I love linux though, and i have random ass problems with windows even though i maintain it so well:-/
[12:32] <PDani> where or how can i download hoary backports?
[12:32] <fluvvell> basicerly: do they both have a dhcp server available to them?
[12:32] <PDani> i mean to hoary
[12:32] <vbgunz> check the ubuntu start guide
[12:32] <jrattner1>  when i type lspci -v my sound card is listed with a weird property that saysCapabilities: <available only to root> how do i change it to all users?
[12:32] <d2dchat> vbgunz, like I can visit my website but i cant login to control panel, ftp and email
[12:33] <Bubblefly> Is there a good NES emulator with a gui? :3
[12:33] <d2dchat> vbgunz, but i can login to any other website's control panel, email and ftp
[12:33] <d2dchat> vbgunz, its really weird
[12:33] <Bad_Magic> anyone around get ndiswrapper to work with an inspiron 9100? I keep getting invalid driver errors
[12:33] <vbgunz> not sure
[12:33] <mumbles> argh
[12:33] <vbgunz> one sec
[12:33] <mumbles> im having user problems
[12:33] <vbgunz> need to check my history
[12:33] <fluvvell> basicerly: i.e. are they plugged into a router or another linux box running dhcpd? (or....?)
[12:33] <mumbles> if i add a user i cant ssh or ftp into the machene
[12:34] <dalamar> Bubblefly, zsnes or snes9x with a frontend installed
[12:34] <basicerly> fluvvell: i've had  ifconfig show eth0 and eth1 up but its all rubish cause my network dies bye then
[12:34] <fluvvell> basicerly: they can be up, but not have an ip address.
[12:34] <vbgunz> forgive my ignorance... How do I access ~/.bash_history
[12:34] <Bubblefly> dalamar: I thought those were just SNES emulators? :3
[12:34] <BlankB> cat ~/.bash_history
[12:34] <fluvvell> basicerly: then they wont work
[12:34] <basicerly> fluvvell: and no amout of ifup ifdown or /etc/init.d/netwroking restart can start it again
[12:35] <basicerly> fluvvell: I have to restart the computer
[12:35] <d2dchat> vbgunz, YES
[12:35] <dalamar> Bubblefly, ah my fault
[12:35] <d2dchat> vbgunz, Im playing music from my Windows HD!
[12:35] <d2dchat> WOOHOO
[12:35] <d2dchat> lol
[12:35] <[DF2] > i have a eth0 but not an eth1 available
[12:35] <fluvvell> basicerly: my question is still:  Do they get an ip address, and if so where from?
[12:35] <[DF2] > how can i make a eth1 for my usb adsl modem ?
[12:35] <vbgunz> very cool ;)
[12:35] <basicerly> fluvvell: sorry
[12:36] <basicerly> fluvvell: I have a router modem thing that dishes out dhcp fine to eth0
[12:36] <vbgunz> soon I hope to figure out how to write to the windows drive... I'll look into the NTFS driver sometime later though... am really trying to learn linux
[12:36] <basicerly> fluvvell: and ive tryed swaping the cable to eth1
[12:36] <vbgunz> BlankB, you're the man, thank you so much... is my history kept somewhere in the file browser? I mean is it in a directory?
[12:37] <basicerly> fluvvell: but eth1 don't get dhcp
[12:37] <basicerly> fluvvell: so somethings screwed
[12:37] <fluvvell> basicerly: They BOTH need to be plugged in at startup
[12:37] <fluvvell> basicerly: or you will need to use the system-> networking tool
[12:37] <basicerly> fluvvell: if i just plug in eth1 at start up that should work for eth1 right?
[12:38] <fluvvell> basicerly: then when you go in to activate them, select dhcp.  It should come up then
[12:38] <[DF2] > can any of you guys see me typing?
[12:38] <fluvvell> basicerly:  Ok, that would make sense I guess
[12:38] <basicerly> fluvvell: i've try all the bacis i think its something teper
[12:39] <fluvvell> basicerly: so your saying that your router only has one port?
[12:39] <basicerly> fluvvell: how do I list the stuf up in mode prob
[12:39] <fluvvell> basicerly: lsmod ?
[12:39] <BlankB> vbgunz: you just have to tell your file browser to show hidden files... anything that starts with a . like .bash_history is usually not shown.
[12:40] <basicerly> fluvvell: no i just don't have a spare networkcable long enough :P
[12:40] <basicerly> fluvvell: yeah lsmod brb chears
[12:40] <fluvvell> basicerly: 8139's are pretty stable, but the odd one dies ;-)
[12:40] <basicerly> fluvvell: works in xp
[12:40] <Bad_Magic> anyone around get ndiswrapper to work with an inspiron 9100? I keep getting invalid driver errors
[12:40] <fluvvell> basicerly: ok
[12:41] <basicerly> fluvvell: sudo lsmod?
[12:41] <fluvvell> basicerly: yep, also have you tried setting a static ip?
[12:41] <teksimian> so, how can i install this gnoppix live cd onto a harddrive? i checked the site, nothing too informative; other than a proposal for some changes.
[12:42] <basicerly> well no but i don't think that the prob
[12:42] <v1ru5> how can i make Xine read subtitles from .sub files???
[12:42] <basicerly> fluvvell: looking around on the net people talk about irc probs and start ubuntu with NOAPIC
[12:42] <fluvvell> basicerly: its worth a try, good ol' ping is your friend.  You can also watch the flashin led's on the back :-)
[12:42] <basicerly> fluvvell: i mean irq not irc opps
[12:43] <vbgunz> ahh man... BlankB... I closed the terminal because I figured I would get it all back if I did "cat ~/.bash_history" I didn't... I ended up saving this whole conversation because what you said was important as my cdrom drive locks up sometimes and your help fixed it... Anyhow when I did "cat ~/.bash_history" I got back what I think I entered in when I pressed Ctrl+Alt+F1... But not what I did in the terminal just now...
[12:43] <v1ru5> Can Xine read .sub files for subtitles? HOW?
[12:43] <DewLinux> wow....you asked the same question
[12:44] <v1ru5> well i was getting ignored
[12:44] <basicerly> fluvvell: i mean irq not irc opps
[12:44] <v1ru5> and i wanna watch a movie :D
[12:44] <DewLinux> maybe no body knows
[12:44] <basicerly> lsmod | grep 8139
[12:44] <basicerly>
[12:44] <fluvvell> basicerly: Well sure, that may be worthwhile once you've tried everything else.  Static ip would be worth a look first in my book.
[12:44] <v1ru5> DewLinux: do you know?
[12:44] <vbgunz> anyhow... is there anyway to record everything I do in any terminal root or not? the reason I need to know is because I feel there is no better way for me to learn the terminal and commands than by reviewing what I did
[12:44] <DewLinux> no
[12:44] <basicerly> fluvvell lsmod | grep 8139 reports nothing ?
[12:44] <DewLinux> i don't screw with subtitles
[12:44] <fluvvell> basicerly: then modprobe it
[12:44] <transgress> okay how do i enable identd in ubuntu?  hadn't really needed it up until this point... but i thought it was like in the inetd.conf
[12:44] <teksimian> anyone for installing gnoppix onto a hd ?
[12:44] <basicerly> fluvvell: how?
[12:44] <BlankB> vbgunz: unless you have more than 1 terminal open and they are both logging to .bash_history it should all be in there.
[12:45] <transgress> why not just install ubuntu teksimian ?
[12:45] <fluvvell> basicerly: modprobe 8139too
[12:45] <crimsun> transgress: sudo aptitude install oidentd
[12:45] <MrGardenHoseMan> what's the command to manualy mount a usb drive?
[12:45] <NoUse> v1ru5 have you searched google?
[12:45] <Seveas> pidentd :)
[12:45] <fluvvell> basicerly: or sudo modprobe 8139too
[12:45] <teksimian> transgress seems like this would be quicker.
[12:45] <transgress> teksimian: how do you figure?
[12:45] <transgress> crimsun: outside program for ident?
[12:45] <vbgunz> ok I'll try again
[12:45] <DewLinux> teksimian, wh are you in a ubuntu room asking about Knoppix?
[12:45] <vbgunz> only had one window opened
[12:45] <DewLinux> that seems a little...wrong
[12:45] <fluvvell> basicerly: dont know why ppl are scared of the root terminal :-)
[12:45] <geneo93> vbgunz:  everything you do in bash will be in bash history and can be recalled at any time
[12:45] <DewLinux> root is fun!
[12:46] <teksimian> DevLinux: gnoppix. not knoppix.
[12:46] <basicerly> fluvvell: hehe
[12:46] <DewLinux> oh
[12:46] <DewLinux> well
[12:46] <DewLinux> gnoppix...knoppix...sounds the same
[12:46] <crimsun> transgress: yes, you have to install a daemon to provide ident for you.
[12:46] <Seveas> gnoppix is based on ubuntu :)
[12:46] <DewLinux> one probaly uses gnome and the other KDE
[12:46] <jfosa> is there a bittorrent client for linux?
[12:46] <crimsun> there are many
[12:46] <DewLinux> jfosa, uhh...duh?
[12:46] <transgress> jfosa: a good few
[12:46] <Seveas> jfosa, several. Valknut is popular
[12:46] <teksimian> transgress.. i might as well go out of my way to install anyother distro/os
[12:46] <basicerly> fluvvell: well if the was know sudo lsmod | grep 8139 does that mean it wasn't set up?
[12:47] <vbgunz> i assume then "terminal" is not bash... only reason is right now it is not showing me what I just did with you... "unmounting"
[12:47] <basicerly> fluvvell: well if the was know sudo lsmod | grep 8139 does that mean it wasn't set up?
[12:47] <transgress> teksimian: well the difference being is that gnoppix is based on ubuntu, but is meant to be used as a livecd
[12:47] <jfosa> Seveas: thanks
[12:47] <vbgunz> one second, wife is calling
[12:47] <fluvvell> basicerly: I'm not quite following, did you try it?
[12:47] <teksimian> transgress; well, if there is a one command kind of script to install it, i would do that. instead of making another cd or some bootdisks to install of the net.
[12:48] <basicerly> fluvvell: if did a modprobe 8139
[12:48] <fluvvell> basicerly: I think I get you, well it might not set up if its not connected (ie networked) to something else
[12:48] <basicerly> and now
[12:48] <sexcopter8000m> hmmm, i've installed samba (apt-get install samba) and under the general tab for "networking" there's nothing about windows networking. have i missed something?
[12:48] <basicerly> sudo lsmod | grep 8139
[12:48] <basicerly> works
[12:48] <DewLinux> aaaah
[12:48] <teksimian> transgress: ps: i have 1 floppy, and no cdrom cuz my os is running off of it.
[12:48] <fluvvell> and modprobe?
[12:48] <d2dchat> what program can i use to play avi files?
[12:49] <georgeblunt> hey there
[12:49] <DewLinux> you know what i hate about googling for linux help...a lot of the info you find is half useless
[12:49] <georgeblunt> i have a problem
[12:49] <basicerly> fluvvell: one last question before im really late o work
[12:49] <transgress> DewLinux: do you use google.com/linux ?
[12:49] <fluvvell> basicerly: uh huh?
[12:49] <georgeblunt> i wanna run blender on my amd64 ubuntu.. but it needs the 32bit version of the sdl library
[12:49] <d2dchat> DewLinux, I post a lot about linux on my website and i try to make it as thorough as possible, so when you do indeed search, it helps you out
[12:49] <DewLinux> i didn't know there was a difference
[12:49] <basicerly> fluvvell: cant' i ping with out and eth set up to dhcp or static
[12:49] <DewLinux> i'll try
[12:49] <fluvvell> basicerly: nope
[12:49] <basicerly> fluvvell: providing the a pc at the other end with an ip?
[12:50] <DewLinux> the one thing i want to do i've found enough forum posts to convince me it's not a good idea
[12:50] <elvirolo> there's another prob on my friend's pc ... evry time she adds a msn buddy in gaim, it is blocked by default, and it is impossible to unblock it
[12:50] <DewLinux> right now i'm trying to figure out samba
[12:50] <fluvvell> basicerly: that was a no.
[12:50] <georgeblunt> has anybody got a solution for this?
[12:50] <teksimian> thanks,. i guess ill just go install freebsd.
[12:50] <basicerly> fluvvell: in windows you can ping something if you yourself don't have an ip
[12:50] <fluvvell> basicerly: ping requires an ip address at each end.  Its implicit
[12:50] <fluvvell> basicerly: bollocks.  it self assigns an address
[12:51] <basicerly> fluvvell: lol fair enough
[12:51] <v1ru5> umm
[12:51] <elvirolo> ideas anyone ?
[12:51] <d2dchat> DewLinux, search for "installing rubygem ubuntu" on google and click the 3rd listing (desire2design) my site and see if that guide is helpful
[12:51] <basicerly> fluvvell: ill belvie you
[12:51] <v1ru5> how do i list processes so i can kill one?
[12:51] <basicerly> fluvvell: thanks for the help
[12:51] <basicerly> bye
[12:51] <d2dchat> DewLinux, if it isnt, comment and offer improvement
[12:51] <teksimian> ps -ax?
[12:51] <fluvvell> basicerly: It gets an 168.something based address out of thin air
[12:51] <NoUse> v1ru5 ps aux
[12:51] <ompaul> v1ru5, ps -auwx
[12:51] <d2dchat> DewLinux, ha, or maybe its the 5th listing
[12:51] <fluvvell> basicerly: np, hope you get it working
[12:51] <crimsun> teksimian: it's pretty straightforward to pxe boot the Ubuntu installer
[12:52] <basicerly> fluvvell: :)
[12:52] <fluvvell> basicerly: dont be late for work!
[12:52] <jfosa> is bittornado good?
[12:52] <georgeblunt> is there a possibility to use/install the 32bit version of the sdl library on my amd64 ubuntu system?
[12:52] <DewLinux> i'll give that a try
[12:52] <DewLinux> is that gonna help me with samba?
[12:53] <d2dchat> DewLinux, who are you talking to?
[12:53] <DewLinux> you
[12:53] <mjr> georgeblunt, basically no, unless you do the grunt work manually
[12:53] <d2dchat> DewLinux, haha no, ignore it if you dont want to isntall ruby;)
[12:53] <fluvvell> a little knowledge can be a painful thing :-)
[12:53] <georgeblunt> mjr: ah damn.. i guess that i gonna have to install the 32bit version of ubuntu then.. hmm.. it's a shame :/
[12:54] <d2dchat> fluvvell, it can also generate income;)
[12:54] <Bags> When i try to use PureAdmin to set up my ftp accounts, it reports PureFTPd is not running. Anything I do to create accounts in PureFTPd is ignored and only registered system users of the computer have access to FTP browsing of files on the computer. If there's anyone with any experience with PureFTPd on Ubuntu, please let me know if you can offer any advice...
[12:54] <fluvvell> d2dchat: we try.
[12:54] <d2dchat> fluvvell, or it can enable you to charge people $1000/hr for service
[12:54] <DewLinux> yeah, i don't even know what ruby is
[12:54] <d2dchat> DewLinux, are you a web developer?
[12:55] <Xanthus7> can I please get the command to update kernel hearders with apt-get
[12:55] <fluvvell> d2dchat:$100 per hour could be a good start, I'm not quite at that point!
[12:55] <mjr> georgeblunt, there's the option of building a 32-bit chroot environment within the 64-bit OS, which is kinda semi-automatic
[12:55] <dvsoftwar> hello
[12:55] <d2dchat> fluvvell, I have a friend who is a date coach, he gets $1,200 an hour
[12:55] <d2dchat> fluvvell, Im like....... WTF??
[12:55] <fluvvell> d2dchat: ha!  what kind of date!!!
[12:55] <georgeblunt> mjr: sounds interesting.. how would i do this? ^^
[12:55] <dvsoftwar> is it safe to upgrade to breezy?
[12:55] <vbgunz> BlankB... Just one last quetion... How do I get my cdrom back? It sort of disappeared for good...
[12:55] <d2dchat> fluvvell, who in their right mind would pay ANYONE $1,200/hr for date coaching, but he gets a continous stream of clients, like 3 at a time
[12:55] <DewLinux> d2d: no
[12:55] <lsuactiafner> no
[12:56] <fluvvell> d2dchat:3 at a time sounds kind of dodgy!!!
[12:56] <Xanthus7> can I please get the command to update kernel hearders with apt-get
[12:56] <d2dchat> DewLinux, :( Ruby is the newest greatest thing for web developers.. its getting a lot of hype in that community
[12:56] <cafuego> gibbons
[12:56] <icheyne> I'm having problems with enabling DMA on the DVD writer I just installed. I can't find the right /dev/foo device.   Via irc ???? No, maybe txt messaging
[12:57] <lsuactiafner> learn to grep
[12:57] <lsuactiafner> icheyne : /dev/dvd
[12:57] <icheyne> lsuactiafner, I tried that but no joy
[12:57] <lsuactiafner> dvsoftwar : yes
[12:57] <d2dchat> fluvvell, no actually they take them to dinner, take them to clubs, show them how to pick up ladies, sit em down and show them how they can imrpove etc.
[12:57] <DVSoftware> icheyne: what did hdparm told you?
[12:57] <icheyne> and /dev/cdrom and /dev/hdc
[12:57] <fluvvell> d2dchat: yeah, well I suppose you would pay for self esteem if it could be bought
[12:57] <Xanthus7> lsuactiafner does that update them or just check them
[12:57] <lsuactiafner> icheyne : /dev/cdrom
[12:58] <lsuactiafner> dmesg | grep sd
[12:58] <lsuactiafner> dmesg | grep hd also
[12:58] <lsuactiafner> Xanthus7 : check them
[12:58] <fluvvell> d2dchat: whew, sounds pretty exhausting.
[12:58] <d2dchat> fluvvell, lol, indeed
[12:58] <Xanthus7> I need to update them please
[12:58] <d2dchat> fluvvell, well for $1,200/hr...
[12:58] <BlankB> vbgunz: dunno...about that. Whatever was causing it to stick is probably still sticking it.
[12:58] <lsuactiafner> why do you want kernel headers if you dont know how to update them after seeing that command i just pasted you
[12:58] <fluvvell> d2dchat:Computers don't complaint quite as much.... but the pay certainly is tempting!!
[12:58] <icheyne> DVSoftware, it said that dma is disabled
[12:58] <DVSoftware> then enable it
[12:58] <d2dchat> fluvvell, hahaha, well I hear its actually really fun
[12:59] <Xanthus7> I am trying to install vmware
[12:59] <fluvvell> d2dchat: Wonders what cv would have to look like?
[12:59] <lsuactiafner> i dont know your cpu type or what you want to do with headers so i wont give you some wild guess command
[12:59] <Xanthus7> says I need to update them
[12:59] <DVSoftware> icheyne: -d 1
[12:59] <d2dchat> fluvvell, cv?
[12:59] <icheyne> DVSoftware, but it won't work
[12:59] <lsuactiafner> bbl
[12:59] <fluvvell> d2dchat: ie what would qualify you for such a role....
[12:59] <BlankB> you can mount it manually: sudo mount /dev/hdc /mnt/wherever
[12:59] <icheyne> the dvd player is working fine
[12:59] <fluvvell> curriculum vitae
[12:59] <icheyne> but I can't get it to use DMA
[01:00] <icheyne> how can I tell which is the currrent device?
[01:00] <iDaywalker> mhh
[01:00] <lsuactiafner> hdparm - something bleh
[01:00] <icheyne> and /dvd
[01:00] <lsuactiafner> !hdparm
[01:00] <ubotu> lsuactiafner: Not a clue
[01:00] <DVSoftware> icheyne: is it in /etc/fstab?
[01:00] <lsuactiafner> icheyne : look into hdparm
[01:00] <d2dchat> fluvvell, You would need to A) be practiced in the art then B) be practiced in their ways.. because they have a whole book on it and then C) be somewhat attractive, have experience applying the strategies
[01:00] <iDaywalker> on my 500mhz laptop qemu runs faster than qemu and kqemu on my 2ghz machine :(
[01:01] <icheyne> OK I'll check them both out
[01:01] <icheyne> hang on
[01:01] <lsuactiafner> hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
[01:01] <d2dchat> fluvvell, but you dont need to be a stud
[01:01] <icheyne>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Permission denied
[01:01] <DVSoftware> sudo
[01:01] <lsuactiafner> sudo then damnit
[01:01] <icheyne> oh
[01:01] <d2dchat> fluvvell, interestingly enough, you can make a guy look "hot" enough to a woman 90% with his personality and charisma and 10% with some outter fluff you apply like colone and nice looking clothing;)
[01:01] <DewLinux> ok, there's gotta be something i'm not doing
[01:02] <BlankB> vbgunz: you might want to try: sudo lsof | grep "hdc"    again...to see if anything is holding it. But I gotta run. Perhaps if you cant find it I will chat later.
[01:02] <icheyne> gotcha
[01:02] <icheyne> sorry
[01:02] <DewLinux> either i need to restart samba
[01:02] <icheyne> it works now
[01:02] <DewLinux> or XP needs configuration..i don't know
[01:02] <fluvvell> d2dchat: you've been reading!
[01:02] <lsuactiafner> studying for semsters
[01:02] <lsuactiafner> i'm annoyed so bbl
[01:02] <d2dchat> fluvvell, no, ive had some free coaching and lots of applying;)
[01:02] <icheyne> DVSoftware,  and lsuactiafner ok I'll edit my hdparm.conf now with that
[01:02] <icheyne> back in a mo
[01:02] <fluvvell> d2dchat:So have you had any success ????
[01:03] <d2dchat> fluvvell, in fact, they asked me to help them coach, i just have  agirlfriend so it defeats some of the morality;)
[01:03] <d2dchat> fluvvell, MUCH
[01:03] <jfosa> how do I add a filetype when saving a file?
[01:03] <d2dchat> fluvvell, if you're interested, there are cheaper alternatives to coaching, they have the book in pdf format
[01:03] <d2dchat> fluvvell, www.charismasciences.com
[01:03] <ompaul> if they have 1.2k for such a project it is not hard to part them from it - after all if you are going to pay for it pay well and implement the lessons a that will garner more success than getting the advice for free and maybe thinking about it at the relevant time
[01:03] <fluvvell> d2dchat: Hope your chargeout rate is on a par!!
[01:03] <NoUse> jfosa the program should do that for you
[01:04] <jfosa> NoUse: and if it doesnt?
[01:04] <fluvvell> d2dchat: Not interested sorry.
[01:04] <d2dchat> fluvvell, haha i dont coach, if i were single i would, but im not
[01:04] <codecaine> NoUse, can you tell me what syslog syncs against when you don't use the "-" for logging?
[01:04] <d2dchat> fluvvell, my girlfriend would kill me if i spent my time picking up girls even if they meant nothing to me and I would feel really bad doing so
[01:04] <fluvvell> d2dchat: not single either, just interested that ppl would pay to be coached.
[01:05] <hawking> can jtr find lost zip passwords by brute-forcing?
[01:05] <d2dchat> fluvvell, well, the book is an interesting read;)
[01:05] <fluvvell> d2dchat: Would rather make a living ( and do ) with computer/network service
[01:05] <d2dchat> fluvvell, har har!
[01:05] <d2dchat> fluvvell, I completely agree
[01:05] <fluvvell> d2dchat: You're not peddling then?
[01:05] <d2dchat> fluvvell, o shit
[01:05] <ElBarono> www.intellectualwhores.com
[01:05] <d2dchat> fluvvell, that reminds me, i have to help this girl with her wireless AHH
[01:05] <d2dchat> fluvvell, lol, peddling?
[01:05] <fluvvell> d2dchat: bonus!
[01:05] <NoUse> jfosa just add it
[01:06] <fluvvell> d2dchat: Its ok, my telemarketet radar just went off for a moment
[01:06] <fluvvell> d2dchat: false positive.
[01:06] <Bags> I"ve a problem running PureFTPD on Ubuntu. I can't get it to work... Is there anyone out there who could possibly shet some light on why PureAdmin is always reporting PureFTPd to be "not running"?
[01:06] <d2dchat> fluvvell, hehe i stopped telemarketting my services when i learned how to optimize my site for search engines;)
[01:07] <fluvvell> d2dchat: don't tell me, you just downloaded prouct "b" and suddenly you were swamped???? lol
[01:08] <calamari> hi
[01:08] <d2dchat> well basically I topped google for "Ann Arbor Website Design" and my business is steady
[01:08] <NoUse> codecaine I have no idea what you are referring to
[01:08] <d2dchat> im still working on the free listings, but i got adwords covered so..
[01:08] <d2dchat> soon ill be getting free business;)
[01:09] <calamari> it takes 5-10 minutes after being disconnected from the internet for my programs to finally realize I was discconnected.  Can I speed that up for like 5-10 seconds?
[01:10] <icheyne> DVSoftware, lsuactiafner no it didn't work
[01:10] <fluvvell> d2dchat: which one is your website then?
[01:10] <d2dchat> www.desire2design.com
[01:10] <icheyne> I entered /dev/dvd into the hdparm.conf just like the wiki instructed
[01:10] <icheyne> but I got this message " using_dma    =  0 (off)
[01:10] <icheyne> "
[01:10] <icheyne> when I rebooted
[01:10] <icheyne> and checked hdparm
[01:10] <icheyne> :(
[01:11] <d2dchat> fluvvell, I was 9th in the free listings yesterday, lol, i dont know what happened, im taking steps to get myself higher though;)
[01:11] <codecaine> NoUse, i.e: auth.*    -/var/log/auth.log
[01:11] <codecaine> NoUse, instead of auth.*     /var/log/auth.log
[01:11] <codecaine> using - doesn't synchronize and is faster on disk access
[01:12] <NoUse> codecaine still clueless
[01:12] <codecaine> NoUse, -/some/file
[01:12] <codecaine>
[01:12] <codecaine> Log to specified file but don't sync afterward
[01:12] <[DF2] > can anyone help me with a problem with pppoeconf
[01:12] <codecaine> without the - it doesn't synch
[01:13] <[DF2] > can anyone help me configure pppoeconf........ only eth0 is showing..
[01:13] <[DF2] > i'm trying to config pppoeconf and it fails but afterwards i see in the terminal... modeconf: command not found.. any ideas ?????????????????
[01:13] <codecaine> i'll try to look it up
[01:13] <NoUse> codecaine where is this - going?
[01:13] <codecaine> its a book im reading
[01:13] <NoUse> codecaine and why are you asking me specifically about it?
[01:13] <codecaine> NoUse, because you've been help to me before
[01:13] <ompaul> [DF2] , your nick is hard to type :) ehh how many cards have you in the box
[01:13] <NoUse> codecaine doesn't mean I know everything
[01:14] <[DF2] > its a laptop..
[01:14] <NoUse> codecaine ask the channel in general, if anyone can help, they will
[01:14] <codecaine> didnt say you did
[01:14] <[DF2] > just got 2 usb ports
[01:14] <ompaul> [DF2] , for your ethernet cards?
[01:14] <[DF2] > and an usb2 pmcia 4port
[01:15] <[DF2] > only 1 ethernet port
[01:15] <ompaul> so then eth0 it is, does pppoeconf
[01:15] <lsuactiafner> icheyne : they dont like if i say something like this
[01:15] <ompaul>  does pppoeconf not see it?
[01:15] <lsuactiafner> but
[01:15] <[DF2] > its sees just the eth0 one
[01:16] <ompaul> [DF2] , well then that is the eth0 which is the one in the box, so I fail to see your problem - eth0 is the first ethernet card
[01:16] <[DF2] > after running it.. it sayssorry scanned 1 interface but the access concentrar of provider not responding
[01:16] <lsuactiafner> echo "hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd >> /etc/init.d/hdparm_test" ; chmod +x /etc/init.d/hdparm_test
[01:16] <lsuactiafner> there is a file /etc/init.d/hdparm you can edit if you know unix very well
[01:17] <ompaul> [DF2] , so the next question is are you connecting to a router ?
[01:17] <lsuactiafner> but otherwise DO NOT edit it
[01:17] <[DF2] > afterwards i see in the terminal... modeconf: command not found.. any ideas
[01:17] <icheyne> well I'm a bit of a newbie
[01:17] <[DF2] > no just adsl usb modem
[01:17] <ompaul> [DF2] , does it have an ethernet port?
[01:17] <icheyne> lsuactiafner, what does your first command do?
[01:17] <elvirolo> can i still fill in bug reports for Hoary ?
[01:17] <lsuactiafner> well the command echo "hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd" >> /etc/init.d/hdparm_test" ; chmod +x /etc/init.d/hdparm_test
[01:17] <[DF2] > no ethernet port on the modem
[01:18] <Bibi2> I installed Azureus but everytime i launch i get azupdate error and can't download anything. I set firestarter to allow bittorent too. Anyone help?
[01:18] <lsuactiafner> should work
[01:18] <ompaul> [DF2] , ooch -that is a dog
[01:18] <eFFay> as i was trying to install another OS (besides ubuntu) i chose to "deactivate" ubuntu.. that installation fucked up and then i couldn't find a way to boot from ubuntu
[01:18] <lsuactiafner> makes a script that will run the hdparm on the next bootup
[01:18] <icheyne> lsuactiafner, cool
[01:18] <icheyne> I'll try it
[01:18] <icheyne> :)
[01:18] <[DF2] > i know :P
[01:18] <lsuactiafner> but i edtied it from before, use what i pasted last
[01:18] <icheyne> hang on
[01:18] <elvirolo> ideas anyone ?
[01:18] <eFFay> now i installed ubuntu again on another partition
[01:18] <icheyne> :)
[01:18] <eFFay> but i still can't boot from the old one
[01:18] <lsuactiafner> and you need to be root when you do the command
[01:18] <eFFay> is there any easy way out of this? :P
[01:18] <ompaul> [DF2] , does that other thing that claims to be an operating system work with it>?
[01:19] <[DF2] > yeah using it now
[01:19] <ompaul> [DF2] , ahh
[01:19] <[DF2] > http://users.tpg.com.au/johnd/dsl200.html#starting-eciadsl
[01:19] <[DF2] > i found that page.. the guy is using fedora though
[01:19] <[DF2] > he's also using the same modem
[01:20] <[DF2] > when i get to the point to configure pppoeconf as he's rp-ppoe
[01:20] <[DF2] > guess they both similar..
[01:20] <icheyne> lsuactiafner, mind if I dcc you?
[01:20] <icheyne> the traffic on this channel is very distracting
[01:21] <lsuactiafner> i dont do dcc
[01:21] <icheyne> sure
[01:21] <icheyne> OK
[01:21] <lsuactiafner> am on a slow dialup..
[01:22] <[DF2] > says in the terminal...    modconf: command not found
[01:22] <[DF2] > thats after the pppoeconf fails.. could there be something missing?
[01:23] <ompaul> [DF2] , modconf is not native to ubuntu
[01:24] <ompaul> [DF2] , which ubuntu are u using
[01:24] <arnehansen> Hello, i am trying to configure my xserver with X -configure
[01:24] <arnehansen> then i get "Missing output drivers. Configuration failed"
[01:24] <arnehansen> What can cause this ?
[01:24] <[DF2] > 5.04
[01:24] <ompaul> [DF2] , aka hoary :)
[01:25] <[DF2] > just this step i'm stuck on
[01:25] <elvirolo> does anyone know whether it is still possible to fill in bug reports for hoary ?
[01:25] <[DF2] > i dont know why i cant get through pppoeconf part
[01:26] <davro> Hi, im trying to setup a shared area for users with a home account, shared directory setup drw-rw-r--  root users, but when i try to cp something to the directory im getting  Permission denied.
[01:26] <vader1102> [DF2] , give him a min, he is probly looking the answer up
[01:26] <[DF2] > ok appreciate it
[01:26] <davro> Do i have to add all the home accounts to the users group or is this setup ?
[01:27] <ompaul> [DF2] , another question what make and model again please
[01:27] <[DF2] > d-link 200 rev b
[01:27] <sexcopter8000m> i want to run a file called "et-linux-2.60.x86.run", am i doing right to cd to the directory and type ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[01:27] <[DF2] > dsl-200 rev b
[01:28] <arnehansen> No one got any ideas as to what the problem might be ?
[01:28] <NoUse> sexcopter8000m yes but you need to make sure the file has executable permissions
[01:29] <sexcopter8000m> ah, ok
[01:29] <ompaul> [DF2] , having fun looking for something relevant
[01:29] <sexcopter8000m> ty NoUse
[01:29] <geneo93> and try sh
[01:29] <[DF2] > ok thanks.. did u see that url i pasted..
[01:30] <[DF2] > the guy has a similar setup
[01:30] <[DF2] > i.e. same modem.. same adsl provider.. linux but using fedore
[01:30] <[DF2] > http://users.tpg.com.au/johnd/dsl200.html#starting-eciadsl
[01:31] <calamari> It takes about 5-10 minutes after being disconnected from the internet for my programs to finally realize I was disconnected.  Can I speed that process up to around 5-10 seconds?
[01:31] <[miles] > good morning #abuntu
[01:31] <Webby`> abuntu?
[01:31] <ompaul> [DF2] , different programs rp and pppoeconf
[01:31] <bimberi> morning?
[01:32] <Webby`> lol
[01:32] <[miles] > sorry
[01:32] <[DF2] > ahh
[01:32] <fluvvell> d2dchat: you still there?
[01:32] <[miles] > jejee
[01:32] <[miles] > ubuntu even
[01:32] <WolfPac_Ite> Gah.
[01:32] <[miles] > :D
[01:32] <bimberi> good? :P
[01:32] <ompaul> bimberi, it is always sunday and it is always morning in irc until you leave when you are the only one to experience night at that time :)
[01:32] <[miles] > ok
[01:33] <[miles] > I'm currently downloading the install cd.... very interested in what I read about the project...
[01:33] <WolfPac_Ite> I'm trying to install Ubuntu to an old HDD with 98 on it, but 98 keeps loading up instead of the Ubuntu disc.
[01:33] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite check your BIOS boot order
[01:33] <WolfPac_Ite> I set the first boot to CDROM.
[01:33] <[miles] > atm I use SuSE for everything... desktops, servers, blah blah... I see a quote about the enterprise version..... does this exist yet?
[01:33] <bimberi> ompaul: :)
[01:34] <[miles] > btw, in Spain it's AM
[01:34] <dell500> is there a site that has chipset drivers??
[01:34] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite sometimes old computers have trouble booting off burnt CDs
[01:34] <WolfPac_Ite> I have the pressed disk
[01:34] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite very strange
[01:34] <cfaun> Changing the .gtkrc file or using gtkthemeswitch do not affect the gtk 1.2 theme. How can I change it?
[01:34] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite does the drive attempt to read the disc?
[01:35] <bimberi> [miles] : to my knowlege there isn't an enterprise edition (or plans)
[01:35] <WolfPac_Ite> What does boot order mean? Do the numbers represent the devices on the channel.
[01:35] <ompaul> [DF2] , I can't find an answer for you, if you have a small enough amount of money a cheap adsl router with an ethernet port and cable is all I can suggest, however that is not to say that there is not an answer out there, I use ethernet so can't really throw light on the subject, however it might just be worth trying a breezy live CD to see if it that support is there in the next generation which will be out in October
[01:35] <WolfPac_Ite> Going from primary to secondary?
[01:35] <vader1102> well, dinner time, back when it is time for me to have some fun getting mp3's to play on my desktop
[01:35] <[miles] > bimberi: ok, thanks... seem's strange they mention it
[01:35] <bimberi> [miles] : As I understand it the point being made is that ubuntu is Free to all.  You don't get access to extra software if you have money
[01:35] <WolfPac_Ite> Not sure, didn't look at the light.
[01:35] <LasseL> WolfPac_Ite, you might also be interested to know that the default install is pretty resource hungry so an old machine might not cut it
[01:36] <[miles] > bimberi: ahhh ok... because I at times use SLES9
[01:36] <[DF2] > ok thx then for your efforts ompaul..
[01:36] <[miles] > bimberi: wonderded if this could be an alternative
[01:36] <bimberi> [miles] : contrasting with, say, RedHat (who have Fedora and Enterprise)
[01:36] <ompaul> [DF2] , np as I say that is a suggestion, I really think that the liveCD is a good way forward with this
[01:37] <bimberi> [miles] : there is paid support available through Canonical...
[01:37] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite boot order means which drive gets checked for media first
[01:37] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite you want the CD to get checked first
[01:38] <WolfPac_Ite> With each number representing the devices?
[01:38] <CarlFK> what is the script to conf x?
[01:38] <ompaul> !xorg
[01:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:38] <WolfPac_Ite> Like, 1=Primary master, 2= primary slave, etc?
[01:38] <davro> Trying to convert my collection of mp3 files to an open-format .ogg files, anyone ?
[01:38] <[miles] > bimberi: Sorry for all the Q's, but this is my final one.... Does the dvd version contain all packages? As installing every boxes addiontal packages via web is not that appeling
[01:38] <CarlFK> and that will "help" a box that doesn't boot X cuz of config issues?
[01:39] <WolfPac_Ite> I think I know the problem, for whatever reason, the BIOS disabled the rest of the device channels.
[01:39] <fluvvell> I don't know whether its worth grizzling out loud, but grub should be included in the live distro of hoary!!!  Its pretty useless as a rescue tool without it!
[01:39] <mjr> davro, not really a good idea, you get degradation, but there is an mp32ogg tool around if you really want to
[01:39] <davro> can convert to .wav using mpg123, for i in *.mp3; do mpg321 -v -w "`basename "$i" .mp3`".wav "$i"; done
[01:39] <mjr> (of course, you have to convert if you want an mp3 codec free system)
[01:39] <fluvvell> calling all breezy movers and shakers... PUT GRUB in the live distro package please!!
[01:40] <mjr> still, if you have the originals, reripping would be quite advisable
[01:40] <ompaul> [miles] , you could install from a single box mount the .debs directory and allow it across your local lan - then you have an update solution when you want to add more software or update stuff
[01:40] <davro> Was then going to convert from a wav to .ogg ??
[01:40] <mjr> davro, oggenv
[01:40] <mjr> oggenc
[01:40] <bimberi> [miles] : np whatsoever regarding Qs :) . Unfortunately I don't know,  I thing the DVD has all the packages in the "main" repository plus can also be a LiveDVD but could be wrong (anyone else?)
[01:40] <jo_e> i can't eject my CD from my drive.  i had tried turning dma on to improve performance, but the turned it off again.
[01:40] <mjr> davro, but as said, mp32ogg does it more automagically
[01:40] <jo_e> then*
[01:40] <cfaun> jo_e you need to unmount your cd before you can eject it
[01:41] <ompaul> jo_e, then after it is umounted try the eject command
[01:41] <jo_e> cfaun, it is unmounted
[01:41] <mjr> ompaul, actually, the eject command will (try to) unmount too
[01:41] <davro> cool will look into those cheers, mp32ogg sound intresting =)
[01:41] <[miles] > ok, great... well, I will try the cd install, thanks you once again guys... bimberi ompaul .... have not tested out other distro besides #suse for nearlly 3 years... time to look maybe :-) nn all
[01:41] <cfaun> jo_e: what happens when you use the eject command?
[01:41] <DewDude> is there a reason i can't su from Konsole?
[01:41] <WolfPac_Ite> Hmm, the BIOS is not detecting my drives.
[01:41] <Bibi2> I've tried bittorrent, g3torrent, azureus and gnome torrent and none work. I've tried all with firewall disabled. Wtf is going on???
[01:42] <cfaun> DewDude: yes; in ubuntu, root is disabled by default
[01:42] <DewDude> well
[01:42] <cfaun> DewDude: you can do sudo passwd root to enable root
[01:42] <DewDude> i'd like it back
[01:42] <DewDude> ok
[01:42] <DewDude> that works too
[01:42] <cfaun> DewDude: that's what I did
[01:42] <bimberi> ubotu supportoptions is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/supportoptions/
[01:42] <ubotu> okay, bimberi
[01:42] <nalioth> DewDude: i find that once you get used to "sudo" it's just as easy
[01:43] <jo_e> ejecting from the right-click>eject thing on the desktop doesn't work now, I have to sudo eject.
[01:43] <jo_e> i get "Invalid argument" otherwise
[01:43] <DewDude> i'm used to SU
[01:43] <moffa> When mounting a drive how come the path is busy?
[01:43] <DewDude> i'm not a linux guru, not by a long shot
[01:43] <DewDude> but, i did learn SU a few years ago
[01:43] <DewDude> so, it's what i know
[01:44] <nalioth> bimberi: can we not make that "support" instead of "supportoptions"?
[01:44] <nalioth> DewDude: give it a few days using sudo, and then think about it
[01:44] <bimberi> nalioth: ok - i'll do that via /msg :)
[01:44] <nalioth> DewDude: i've been using linux over 5 years and i like "sudo"
[01:45] <Rockett18> yeah i keep typing sudo on fedora boxes now.. so used to it
[01:45] <cfaun> gaaaaaaaaaa
[01:45] <Rockett18> :)
[01:45] <nalioth> Rockett18: so enable it on your fedora boxen
[01:46] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite thats probably the problem :-)
[01:46] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite you might try smartboot
[01:46] <NoUse> !smartboot
[01:46] <ubotu> smartboot is, like, totally, If you can't boot from your CD-ROM Drive, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[01:47] <calamari> It takes about 5-10 minutes after being disconnected from the internet for my programs to finally realize I was disconnected.  Can I speed that process up to around 5-10 seconds?
[01:47] <bimberi> nalioth: done - both will work in fact :)
[01:47] <nalioth> bimberi: great! cuz more folks is likely to hit !support with their wild triggering sprees
[01:48] <WolfPac_Ite> I fixed the problem...
[01:49] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite what was it?
[01:49] <davro> ide cable upside down ?
[01:49] <WolfPac_Ite> ...
[01:49] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite hehe, if you don't want to say its alright, I'll just assume the worst :-)
[01:50] <calamari> Is my problem impossible to solve or something?
[01:50] <WolfPac_Ite> Heh, look above NoUse.
[01:51] <calamari> WolfPac_Ite: huh?
[01:52] <bimberi> calamari: it's probably because noone has an answer for you ... I guess it's up to the "programs" themselves to be coded to check for an internet connection?
[01:52] <WolfPac_Ite> Message.
[01:52] <jfosa> what's a good video player? :)
[01:52] <nalioth> jfosa: there are many video players
[01:53] <WolfPac_Ite> What should I input for Netmask?
[01:53] <jfosa> one that plays avi's well? for anime
[01:53] <WolfPac_Ite> I have a router.
[01:53] <WolfPac_Ite> <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:53] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite most of the time thats the right choice
[01:53] <WolfPac_Ite> Ok.
[01:53] <calamari> bimberi: I haven't done low level network programming, but in higher level languages, when a network connection is terminated the program knows about it when the OS tells them (closes connection, etC)
[01:53] <davro> yup i usally run with <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:53] <WolfPac_Ite> What about the name server address?
[01:53] <DewDude> well, i have shares working
[01:53] <DewDude> i just can't mount them
[01:53] <calamari> bimberi: so I'm assuming that Linux is waiting aorund forever to tell everyone
[01:54] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite usually the address of the router/gateway
[01:54] <WolfPac_Ite> Ok.
[01:54] <WolfPac_Ite> Thanks.
[01:54] <davro> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS> what ever your gw is.
[01:55] <WolfPac_Ite> <IP_ADDRESS> for me.
[01:55] <WolfPac_Ite> Linksys.
[01:55] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite is there a reason you aren't using DHCP?
[01:55] <Bad_Magic> anyone around get ndiswrapper to work with an inspiron 9100? I keep getting invalid driver errors
[01:56] <bimberi> calamari: outta my league i'm afraid :|
[01:56] <jfosa> what's the most popular video player?
[01:56] <calamari> bimberi: np, thanks :)
[01:56] <therealmawa> hi
[01:56] <WolfPac_Ite> Yes.
[01:56] <bimberi> calamari: at least someone aknowledged your existence :)
[01:56] <therealmawa> is there a special channel for problems with Breezy or is this the right place?
[01:56] <WolfPac_Ite> I like always having the same IP tied to my devices.
[01:56] <calamari> bimberi: yay! :)
[01:57] <davro> jfosa: not sure need we need a vote on that, personall i use, xine or mplayer
[01:57] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite you can have the router assign an IP based on MAC
[01:57] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite thats what I do
[01:57] <NoUse> therealmawa this is it
[01:57] <WolfPac_Ite> Oh really?
[01:58] <WolfPac_Ite> How do you do that with a Linksys?
[01:58] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite yeah, I'm not sure if linksys supports it but my d-link does
[01:58] <therealmawa> ok...
[01:58] <WolfPac_Ite> Anyone here know of alternate Linksys firmware?
[01:58] <therealmawa> I just switched from Hoary to Breezy and no GTK+ applications work
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> er yeah
[01:58] <therealmawa> is that a common problem?
[01:58] <WolfPac_Ite> The Linksys stuff doesn't have enough port slots.
[01:59] <jfosa> do i have the fedora core, as an ubuntu user?
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> WolfPac_Ite: you can put linux on it
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> jfosa: ... no
[01:59] <DewDude> does ubuntu come with smbfs or do i have to add it
[01:59] <WolfPac_Ite> Heh.
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> fedora core is a totally different distribution
[01:59] <WolfPac_Ite> There is Linux firmware for the Linksys routers, eh?
[01:59] <DewDude> cuz doing mount -t smbfs gives me errors when trying to mount samba
[01:59] <therealmawa> I get "symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: pango_cairo_context_set_font_options" whenever I try to run a gtk application
[01:59] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite on my router its called "Static DHCP"
[01:59] <bimberi> DewDude: not part of the basic install, but available in the repositories
[01:59] <WolfPac_Ite> I just need something that will allow a wider range of port slots.
[01:59] <therealmawa> LD_PRELOADing libpangocairo doesn't help
[01:59] <HrdwrBoB> DewDude: it should be there
[02:00] <DewDude> i'm lookin through kynaptic
[02:00] <jfosa> davro: which source do i download from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[02:00] <DewDude> i heard there was a repository that had other stuff that wasn't on by default
[02:00] <bimberi> !info smbfs
[02:00] <ubotu> smbfs: (mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x)), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 3.0.10-1ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 340 kB, Installed size: 816 kB
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> DewDude: universe
[02:00] <HrdwrBoB> !repositories
[02:00] <ubotu> repositories is, like, probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:00] <TitanCry> Can anyone help me with a dualboot question?
[02:00] <nalioth> DewDude: multiverse
[02:00] <DewDude> ok, i'll see if i can figure it out from there
[02:00] <nalioth> TitanCry: if you ask us
[02:01] <WildFire`> can someone help me set up a dialup connection off of the live cd?
[02:01] <therealmawa> oh well.
[02:01] <WildFire`> mm?
[02:01] <rob_p> WolfPac_Ite:  Replace your Linksys router with an Ubuntu Box that has a couple of network cards.  Then you'll have more options than you'll know what to do with!
[02:02] <WildFire`> can someone help me set up a dialup connection off of the live cd??
[02:02] <TitanCry> I have Win98 installed on one of four partitions on my harddrive.  I read that the Ubuntu installation comes with a re-partitioner, but i want to be DEAD sure I dont destroy existing data...will my existing data be protected?
[02:02] <jfosa> is there a common reason xine might not have sound?
[02:02] <DewDude> yay
[02:02] <DewDude> installing
[02:02] <WildFire`> what is?
[02:02] <DewDude> smbfs
[02:02] <WolfPac_Ite> Oh I see what you mean.
[02:02] <WildFire`> bleh
[02:02] <WolfPac_Ite> Yeah, I would use Smoothwall or something, but no cash for a spare box.
[02:03] <WildFire`> can someone help me connect linux with dialup on the live cd?
[02:03] <WildFire`> im confused how to
[02:03] <CarlFK> TitanCry - "dead sure?" no.  make a backup.  just letting the thing sit by itself is a risk.
[02:03] <davro> jfosa, Compiling from source try MPlayer v1.0pre7try2 personally i can be arsed compiling, apt-cache search mplayer
[02:03] <DewDude> TitanCry: you can only be SO sure
[02:03] <DewDude> cuz sometimes simply doing a repartition can trash your table
[02:03] <WildFire`> can someone help me connect linux with dialup on the live cd?
[02:03] <WildFire`> please!
[02:03] <DewDude> heck, i had linux trash a table after converting ext2 to ext3
[02:03] <DewDude> i thought i was fscked
[02:03] <NoUse> WildFire` its better if you state what kind of problem you are having
[02:03] <WildFire`> well
[02:04] <WildFire`> it won't connect
[02:04] <WildFire`> :P
[02:04] <WildFire`> i need someone to walk me through it
[02:04] <NoUse> WildFire` did you read the walkthrough on the wiki?
[02:04] <WildFire`> yes
[02:04] <WildFire`> doesnt work
[02:04] <TitanCry> ok thanks
[02:04] <WildFire`> because its the live cd
[02:04] <NoUse> well I'm guessing very few people here will have dealt with dialup on a live cd
[02:04] <WildFire`> hmm...
[02:04] <WolfPac_Ite> Talk later.
[02:04] <koneng> i've been trying to get my ipod (windows formatted 4rth gen w/ USB 2.0) to work. I was able to detect/add an album using gtkpod. My only problem was successfully unmounting it (w/o "Do Not Disconnect.." message). I used 'sudo eject /dev/sda', which finally worked. Everything looks okay, except that my podcasts are gone:/ Any advice so this won't happen again?
[02:04] <WolfPac_Ite> See ya.
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> koneng: that would be a gtkpod thing
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> check the gtkpod site/doco/etc
[02:06] <NoUse> koneng I'm guessing itunes creates that podcast listing, what I do is make sure all my podcasts are filed as "podcast" in the genre field
[02:06] <TitanCry> next question ....what linux should i use?
[02:06] <NoUse> koneng makes them easier to find
[02:06] <DewDude> dammit
[02:06] <Bad_Magic> anyone around get ndiswrapper to work with an inspiron 9100? I keep getting invalid driver errors (and yes, im using the ones suggested in the wiki)
[02:06] <bimberi> TitanCry: er, ubuntu of course :)
[02:06] <koneng> good advice, thanks HrdwrBoB/NoUser
[02:06] <jfosa> how do I get additional codecs for xine?
[02:06] <crube> TitanCry,  Ubuntu! That's why you're here :)
[02:07] <koneng> i used to hate itunes, but now i'm missing it:/
[02:07] <TitanCry> @bimber...i dont get it...i am reading the documentation and it points to another website and tells me to go pick a linux
[02:07] <NoUse> !w32codecs
[02:07] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repository. AMD64? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 Legal issues: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:07] <bimberi> TitanCry: sounds strange, what website?
[02:08] <jfosa> thanks
[02:08] <TitanCry> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome @bimberi
[02:08] <TitanCry> on the ubuntu website
[02:09] <jo_e> how can I make my printer networked?
[02:09] <NoUse> jo_e for windows machines?
[02:09] <jo_e> NoUse, no, for a redhat machine
[02:10] <TitanCry> does ubuntu have anything to do with mark shuttleworth?
[02:10] <jfosa> i'm looking for a specific mpeg layer, 2/3 0x55 something codec for audio
[02:10] <NoUse> jo_e if its set up in cups on your ubuntu machine, I think two cups based machines can talk to each other
[02:10] <NoUse> jo_e I've never done it before though
[02:10] <NoUse> TitanCry he's where the money comes from
[02:10] <nalioth> TitanCry: why yes it does, ol' Mark is the major force behind ubuntu
[02:10] <davro> no but mark shuttleworth has something todo with ubuntu
[02:11] <geneo93> mark shuttleworthis paying the tab
[02:11] <TitanCry> figured as much
[02:11] <bimberi> TitanCry: which bit of that page (perhaps a phrase)
[02:11] <jfosa> i don't see the 32 codecs under the synpatic thing
[02:11] <jo_e> NoUse, i'll experiment
[02:11] <TitanCry> First, like all things, you have to get a copy of Linux. Suprisingly, this can be more challenging than it probably should be. So scoot over to  http://www.linux.org/dist/list.html and lets take a look see. Lets leave the all matches on the boxes, and click go. Ok, there's your list of the Linux distributions, now pick one.
[02:12] <setite> hola compadres
[02:12] <setite> anyone know how i can get my builtin wireless card to work?
[02:12] <setite> its not detected
[02:12] <nalioth> setite: see the wiki on ndiswrapper
[02:12] <nalioth> setite: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[02:13] <TitanCry> what is the soundcard support under linux like?
[02:13] <bimberi> TitanCry: hehe, if you keep reading the author is trying to point out that there is a plethora of choices for linux...
[02:13] <TitanCry> @bimberi....silly me....i am new to this....
[02:13] <setite> cool.. thanks
[02:14] <setite> !kubuntu
[02:14] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/
[02:14] <jfosa> okay here's an easy question, how do I choose a directory to unzip to? from the CLI
[02:14] <koneng> how do i install a program with the .tar.gz extension?
[02:14] <nalioth> jfosa: you pick the directory to unzip to, by choosing which dir you are currently in
[02:15] <bimberi> TitanCry: as we all were.    Anyone who bashes something they dislike is the one at fault.
[02:18] <TitanCry> thnaks crimsun, bimberi
[02:18] <DewDude> ok
[02:18] <robertj> anyone here have a G5 with breezy and usplash working properly?
[02:18] <DewDude> so...can i add repositores manually?
[02:18] <geneo93> DewDude:  do like i did install synaptic
[02:18] <bimberi> TitanCry: yw :)
[02:19] <nalioth> DewDude: there are at least a dozen Desktop manglers to choose from (enlightenment, xfce, *box, ratpoison, etc)
[02:19] <flankk> nalioth, manglers.. lol
[02:19] <nalioth> robertj: i'm happy my G5 is running hoary
[02:19] <DewDude> i know, i'm just used to KDE
[02:19] <DewDude> i shouldn't be screwing with this
[02:20] <DewDude> i need to be burning music for the trip this weekend
[02:20] <optilock> where can i go for help for partitioning schemes for use with ubuntu ?
[02:20] <geneo93> gnome is a mangler
[02:20] <robertj> nalioth: hehe, I don't get any work done in Linux on my desktop so I run breezy ;)
[02:20] <NoUse> I think the only problem with kubuntu is that everything is Qt based, KDE's Im client is barely functional but Gaim isn't installed by default
[02:20] <DewDude> i was hoping to get enough done i could have the g3 transcode some non-mp3/ogg stuff to ogg
[02:20] <optilock> is breezy final ?
[02:20] <Webby`> Does anyone have paint shop pro or photoshop on their ubuntu computer?
[02:20] <NoUse> optilock not until october
[02:20] <Webby`> Not yet optilock
[02:20] <DewDude> webby: i got gimp
[02:20] <robertj> nalioth: I do however have two stable servers though with hoary so I don't feel all dirty inside ;)
[02:21] <hybrid_goth> optilock: heck no
[02:21] <Webby`> I need to use psp or photoshop in ubuntu
[02:21] <robertj> although if you have gotten mirror mode to work with dual head I'd like to know what you did
[02:21] <geneo93> optilock:  no
[02:21] <nalioth> robertj: i can't get ANY linux to load onto my imac G5
[02:21] <NoUse> Webby` look into crossover office
[02:21] <hybrid_goth> Webby`: gimpshop is gimp but looks just like PS
[02:21] <robertj> nalioth: have you tried a breezy nightly?
[02:21] <vbgunz> someone please help me find my bash history?
[02:21] <optilock> is /opt a necessary partition ?
[02:21] <robertj> its probably very broken but it might at least get you going in the right direction
[02:21] <Webby`> noUse: For some reason crossover office doesn't load in ubuntu for me. It's in the application section but wwon't start up
[02:21] <Bubblefly> My backspace is being weird... instead of letting me hold it down to go back, I have to press it for each character... anyone know what I can do about that?
[02:22] <bimberi> optilock: no
[02:22] <NoUse> vbgunz ~/.bash_history
[02:22] <Webby`> hybrid_goth: thanks I'll try it out :)
[02:22] <vbgunz> thank you
[02:22] <vbgunz> is there a seperate bash history for the user and one for root?
[02:22] <hybrid_goth> Bubblefly: sounds like the delay in between multiple instances is turned off or really long
[02:22] <bimberi> optilock: the "df" command will show you the (mounted) partitions and their mount points
[02:22] <optilock> bimberi, would it be best to setup an /opt partition ?
[02:22] <NoUse> vbgunz yeah its in each users home directory
[02:22] <nalioth> robertj: yes, and it was an adventure. it wanst seen as "bootable" by the machine, and when i restarted in OSX, it kernel panicked it immediately. hadda go to OF to eject the thing
[02:22] <robertj> optilock: it's a directory, and it can be deleted but its required by the standard
[02:22] <Bubblefly> hybrid_goth: What do I do about that? ^^
[02:22] <hybrid_goth> Webby`: http://platicbugs.com is the creators homepage but idk if he has the linux port there
[02:23] <DewDude> i had no problem putting kubuntu on my G3
[02:23] <dell500> what's a good wireless card to buy for ubuntu??
[02:23] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: are you in here causing trouble again? lol
[02:23] <dell500> 802.11g pref
[02:23] <hybrid_goth> Bubblefly: go to system> and then keyboard
[02:23] <robertj> nalioth: Hrmm, dunno.
[02:23] <hybrid_goth> Webby`: http://plasticbugs.com rather
[02:23] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: heck yes
[02:23] <bimberi> optilock: I don't personally ...
[02:23] <vbgunz> is this conversation being recorded?
[02:23] <nalioth> DewDude: ubuntu runs fine on my G3 and G4
[02:23] <hybrid_goth> DewDude: iBook G3 linux pwns
[02:23] <Bad_Magic> anyone around get ndiswrapper to work with an inspiron 9100? I keep getting invalid driver errors (and yes, im using the ones suggested in the wiki)
[02:24] <robertj> (BTW, stay far far away from Apple hardware built after the Silverdoor G4s)
[02:24] <nalioth> vbgunz: by several loggin bots, yes
[02:24] <Webby`> Thanks hybrid_goth
[02:24] <hybrid_goth> robertj: why is that
[02:24] <nalioth> robertj: too late
[02:24] <optilock> what size partition is best for /opt ?
[02:24] <vbgunz> how do I get a copy is it possible?
[02:24] <hybrid_goth> Webby`: np good luck
[02:24] <robertj> hybrid_goth, aweful reliability
[02:24] <hybrid_goth> optilock: its linux w/e you wish
[02:24] <hybrid_goth> robertj: hmm what did they change?
[02:24] <robertj> It's just been buggy in various ways and prone to sudden death
[02:24] <hybrid_goth> hmm
[02:25] <jfosa> how do i give my GUI sudo?
[02:25] <robertj> I've got a lab that had 16 machines in it and of those 9 have been totally unbootable in the last year and taken in for service and had either the motherboard or cpu replaced
[02:25] <vbgunz> I had a problem about two hours ago... I asked for help and someone helped me... I thought my bash history would show me the commands I was inputting but it does not... I thought if I saved the IRC text to a file and keep overwriting it it would just get bigger BUT it seems IRC screen history got cut off and I basically screwed myself and lost the commands
[02:25] <robertj> AND that doesn't include the one that just died after the warranty ended last month
[02:25] <hybrid_goth> jfosa: Gtksu
[02:25] <_lui_> he, what can I do if I want any program to start everytime my session starts?
[02:26] <robertj> OR the one that they replaced it with that still has fan racing if you install 10.3 on it but works properly with 10.4, which we can't use because we don't have licences for the version of ProTools that runs on 10.4
[02:26] <hybrid_goth> jfosa: or just run sudo <foo> from terminal
[02:26] <Azra`el> What's the ubuntu way of changing video cards? (what's the process)
[02:26] <robertj> So umm, yeah, far far away is the place to be.
[02:26] <hybrid_goth> robertj: tiger is fine here on this G3
[02:26] <calamari> gksudo
[02:26] <_lui_> what can I do if I want any program to start everytime my session starts?
[02:26] <hybrid_goth> calamari: ty
[02:26] <jfosa> i'm trying to unpack something and it says i don't have permission
[02:26] <optilock> i just dont know anything about it.  i have a 250 gig hd.  going to do a /boot / /var /usr and / but dont know about opt.  boot, 100MB, /var 15MB, /usr 15MB, / 20MB, swap, and for /opt i simply dont know
[02:27] <hybrid_goth> _lui_: gnome?
[02:27] <robertj> hybrid: but the G5s, especially the 1.6 ghz models, are horrible
[02:27] <vbgunz> does anyone know how I can get a copy of todays IRC history?
[02:27] <NoUse> Azra`el I'm no sure there is an official way, what are the two cards?
[02:27] <hybrid_goth> vbgunz: check the logs i think they log this
[02:27] <Azra`el> NoUse, one's an nvidia geforce, the other's a trident blade.
[02:27] <_lui_> hybrid_goth, yep
[02:27] <hybrid_goth> _lui_: open it before you shutdown and log out but check save session that is the easy way
[02:28] <robertj> Also, the G5 handles hurt your hands
[02:28] <NoUse> Azra`el which are going switching two?
[02:28] <vbgunz> how? Window raw log shows nothing... is there another way?
[02:28] <hybrid_goth> jfosa: what kind of file is it
[02:28] <vbgunz> plus, I just signed on BUT I need the conversation from about two hours ago... anyone please help much appreciated
[02:28] <Azra`el> NoUse: trident out, nvidia in
[02:28] <calamari> _lui_: System -> Preferences -> Sessisons -> Startup Programs -> Add
[02:29] <_lui_> hybrid_goth, should save session always or just once with knotes?
[02:29] <NoUse> Azra`el I would read the nvidia howto, perhaps print it out, X should come up on backup driver but in case it doesn't you'll know how to install the nvidia driver
[02:29] <juanej> is anyone using xfce? why does xfce ask for a password everytime i want to reboot or turn off?
[02:29] <NoUse> !tell Azra`el about nvidia
[02:29] <hybrid_goth> _lui_: once will do
[02:29] <Webby`> hybrid_goth: How do I open up gimp shop? I have it installed already but can't find it
[02:29] <nalioth> robertj: i'm runnin a dual 1.8 and i have 0 problems
[02:29] <_lui_> oh! thanks, calamari
[02:29] <hybrid_goth> juanej: it is in the settings
[02:29] <hybrid_goth> Webby`: call it from comman line
[02:29] <_lui_> hybrid_goth, thanks
[02:29] <nalioth> robertj: the 1.6 was the first model, and has "original model year bugs"
[02:29] <calamari> _lui_: yw.. leave it at 50 :)
[02:29] <robertj> nalioth: good for you, I've got 100 macs with no problems and 30 with severe problems.
[02:29] <hybrid_goth> _lui_: np
[02:30] <nalioth> robertj: are you a sysadmin in heaven?
[02:30] <robertj> nalioth: a 50+% mortality rate on motherboard/cpu in the first year is a bit more than a bug
[02:30] <Webby`> hybrid_goth: I type gimpshop and it says command not found
[02:30] <hybrid_goth> hmm
[02:30] <hybrid_goth> Webby`: i have never used it personally
[02:30] <nalioth> robertj: well then, i'm past that (bought a apple warranted refurb)
[02:30] <Webby`> oh
[02:30] <hybrid_goth> juanej: did ya find it?
[02:30] <juanej> hybrid_goth,  No, its not
[02:31] <WolfPac_Ite> What filesystem should the Linux partition be?
[02:31] <nalioth> Webby`: did you build gimpshop?
[02:31] <hybrid_goth> juanej: it is under seesion or login or such
[02:31] <Webby`> nalioth: no
[02:31] <nalioth> WolfPac_Ite: ext2, ext3 (recommended) or reiser
[02:31] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: he wanted a photoshop
[02:31] <optilock> if you had a 250 gig hd how big would your /opt be ?
[02:31] <Webby`> nalioth: I downloaded it through wine
[02:31] <robertj> nalioth: AppleCare IMO is pretty good, but if they don't comp us another 2 years of AppleCare on the 1.6's it may be the last Mac lab we have
[02:31] <WolfPac_Ite> And what should the "Typical usage" be set to?
[02:31] <WolfPac_Ite> OhI need this to be a server.
[02:31] <juanej> hybrid_goth,  there is a sessions and startup but nothing about asking for a password
[02:31] <_lui_> calamari, why in 50?
[02:31] <hybrid_goth> juanej: 4.0?
[02:31] <nalioth> Webby`: i'm afraid i'm not able to help you with that
[02:32] <juanej> 4.2
[02:32] <WolfPac_Ite> Mostly text and photos.
[02:32] <Webby`> nalioth: ok
[02:32] <hybrid_goth> juanej: i think it is under sessions
[02:32] <nalioth> Webby`: if you find the homepage and follow the instructions there, it will work
[02:32] <vbgunz> does anyone have todays IRC log?
[02:32] <nalioth> Webby`: but i dont deal with wine
[02:32] <hybrid_goth> Webby`: didnt find the native linux GS?
[02:32] <bimberi> vbgunz: /topic
[02:32] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: he didnt, help him out
[02:33] <robertj> My dual 2.5/2 gig is a very nice machine and quite peppy but its not substantially faster for every day use than my G3 900 with 768 megs of ram
[02:33] <vbgunz> i went to this link http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ but todays log is not because I cannot find my conversation :(
[02:33] <robertj> If your compiling something you sure do notice the speed (and the noise) but for web surfing Firefox on my eMachine is actually faster often-times
[02:33] <kent> Can some one explain how to easely find which .desktop-file is giving me an entry in Program->Settings->Java2->Plugin Control-Panel?  Smeg in Breezy cant disable it from the menu, and I cant find the desktop-file to remove it manually :(
[02:33] <nalioth> robertj: really. . . .
[02:33] <vbgunz> should I wait a day?
[02:33] <bimberi> vbgunz: look for ubuntu-current.html
[02:33] <vbgunz> ok will do
[02:34] <nalioth> robertj: my DP1.8 is amazingly faster than my G3 and G4 ibooks (both maxxed with ram)
[02:34] <Webby`> hybrid_goth: It's not out for linux yet
[02:34] <nalioth> robertj: emachine? we are comparing apples and prunes now?
[02:34] <robertj> of course its faster but its not really substantially faster for every day use
[02:34] <hybrid_goth> Webby`: yes it is
[02:34] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: who speaks german?
[02:34] <hybrid_goth> Webby`: search synaptic
[02:34] <Webby`> hybrid_goth: ok
[02:35] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: google gimshop deb and it will show ya
[02:35] <WolfPac_Ite> What do you guys recommend for website server use?
[02:35] <hybrid_goth> Webby`: if it isnt there i have a link for ya
[02:35] <Azra`el> ok
[02:35] <setite> hey whats the way to install the latest firefox?
[02:35] <hybrid_goth> WolfPac_Ite: appache?
[02:35] <Azra`el> mouse, HI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:35] <WolfPac_Ite> For the "Typical usage" and filesystem setting?
[02:35] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: there is an english weblog with instructions and links to the source.gz
[02:35] <setite> its on the repos right
[02:35] <Webby`> hybrid_goth: It's not in synapti
[02:35] <setite> or do i have to change the version number
[02:35] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: alien
[02:35] <robertj> but that G3 ibook has been great except for the logic board going kaput
[02:35] <hybrid_goth> i found a rpm
[02:35] <nalioth> Webby`: hang on a minim
[02:35] <Webby`> ok
[02:35] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: source install is best
[02:35] <vbgunz> oh my goodness bimberi so much thanks! and thank you to everyone else for your time! bimberi major thanks and major appreciation... better look through the logs now!
[02:35] <hybrid_goth> robertj: i had the same
[02:35] <WolfPac_Ite> Appache, hmm.
[02:36] <nalioth> robertj: i have a new logic board, heh heh
[02:36] <MrGardenHoseMan> What's the command to manualy mount a usb drive?
[02:36] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: source is complicated with GS iirc
[02:36] <bimberi> vbgunz: yvw :)
[02:36] <hybrid_goth> MrGardenHoseMan: sudo mount /dev/sd*
[02:36] <robertj> hybrid: between the G5s and the iBook/Powerbook/iMac deaths I just cant recommend them to people
[02:36] <Azra`el> NoUse, even.
[02:36] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[02:36] <hybrid_goth> robertj: ha
[02:36] <Azra`el> that's not what i needed, but thanks anyway.
[02:37] <hybrid_goth> yes alien will be much easier
[02:37] <vbgunz> truly awesome, everyone have a great day or night ;)
[02:37] <konra`> anyone know how to install php5 on ubuntu?
[02:37] <sockpuppe1> I just installed blackbox, should I ditch it for fluxbox?
[02:37] <robertj> Would I rather have a Dell on my desktop? No, I like OS X, but would I pay extra or buy one if I knew it wouldn't be fixed without me having to pay for it? No.
[02:37] <hybrid_goth> konra`: search *ynaptic
[02:37] <konra`> hybrid_goth, there are no php5 packages
[02:37] <konra`> I looked
[02:38] <hybrid_goth> konra`: really?
[02:38] <konra`> and I have universe/multiverse enabled
[02:38] <hybrid_goth> weird
[02:38] <robertj> But anyway, that's my grump
[02:38] <konra`> only php4
[02:38] <robertj> Anyone here have a G5 with a radeon that they have in dual-head mirror mode?
[02:38] <solee> How does it come that the antialising on Ubuntu(hoary) is much sharper(more black than gray) than the fonts with AA in other distributions?
[02:38] <hybrid_goth> Webby`: source install: http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_GIMPShop/
[02:38] <Webby`> hybrid_goth: Thanks!
[02:39] <spiderworm> gimpshop?
[02:39] <sockpuppe1> so what is your folks thoughts over my question
[02:39] <jo_e> how can I stop having to sudo to eject?
[02:39] <hybrid_goth> Webby`: np
[02:39] <hybrid_goth> spiderworm: gimp to look like photoshop
[02:39] <konra`> jo_e, don't mount the disk as su
[02:39] <nalioth> Webby`: the source install is the best way
[02:39] <spiderworm> nice
[02:39] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: it needs some weird ass packages thopugh
[02:39] <jo_e> konra`, how do I avoid doing that?
[02:40] <transgress> hmm is there a package for hdiutil?
[02:40] <nalioth> jo_e: it's that way for security reasons
[02:40] <sockpuppe1> nalioth what you think?
[02:40] <hybrid_goth> s/thopugh/though
[02:40] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: really?
[02:40] <Bad_Magic> I am having a hard time getting my drivers working in ndiswrapper, using the card BCM4309, I am using the .inf suggested in the wiki and it keeps telling me they are invalid drivers... any suggestions from the peanut gallery?
[02:40] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: XML::Parser
[02:40] <nalioth> transgress: use synaptic and search, or see packages.ubuntu.com
[02:40] <jo_e> nalioth, it only began happening after I enabled DMA... but I have disabled it again
[02:40] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: oh yeah, perl pkgs (cpan.org)
[02:40] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: yes i hate that package
[02:41] <DewDude> so, i'm guessing i have to compile libdvdcss2 myself since nothing came up in the repositories
[02:41] <hybrid_goth> DewDude: you can compile a lib?
[02:41] <DewDude> i don't know
[02:41] <konra`> enable universe/multivere
[02:41] <konra`> I got it from there
[02:41] <nalioth> !info libdvdcss2
[02:41] <DewDude> i did
[02:41] <konra`> hmm.
[02:41] <hybrid_goth> DewDude: you dont compile a lib
[02:41] <Bad_Magic> also, anyone know a quick way to check my resolution in gnome? =x
[02:41] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: correct me if i am wrong
[02:41] <nalioth> DewDude: its in the repos
[02:42] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: yes, you compile everything libs, binarys, etc
[02:42] <konra`> portable abstraction library for DVD decryption
[02:42] <konra`> The libdvdcss library provides a portable abstraction for DVD decryption,
[02:42] <konra`> with a simple API to access a DVD device as a block device.
[02:42] <konra`> This package contains the libdvdcss2 runtime library.
[02:42] <sockpuppe1> nalioth should I stick with blackbox or should I head to fluxbox???
[02:42] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: but arent libs just files?
[02:42] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: that is entirely up to you (use what you are comfortable with)
[02:42] <nalioth> hybrid_goth: libs = librarys
[02:42] <konra`> hybrid_goth, programs are just files too
[02:42] <DewDude> nothing comes up in search
[02:42] <DewDude> universe IS activated
[02:42] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: i know
[02:42] <hybrid_goth> true
[02:43] <sockpuppe1> is one better than the other
[02:43] <nalioth> DewDude: reload your apt-get
[02:43] <sockpuppe1> ?
[02:43] <konra`> yeah
[02:43] <nalioth> DewDude: you need multiverse
[02:43] <hybrid_goth> sockpuppe1: nah
[02:43] <DewDude> oh
[02:43] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: there are dozens of desktop manglers to choose from
[02:43] <DewDude> lovely
[02:43] <DewDude> so much for the wonderful guides
[02:43] <sexcopter8000m> can anyone suggest a programme for a brute-force approach to cracking a passworded zip file?
[02:43] <sexcopter8000m> have been set a challenge :)
[02:43] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: try them all, use what you like
[02:43] <sockpuppe1> nalioth let me in on them
[02:43] <sockpuppe1> what else is there
[02:44] <sockpuppe1> i have enlightenment dr17
[02:44] <sockpuppe1> gnome
[02:44] <hybrid_goth> sockpuppe1: i like XFCE
[02:44] <hybrid_goth> flux is nice
[02:44] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: packages.ubuntu.com   search "desktop"
[02:44] <sockpuppe1> im running xfce4 bere
[02:44] <sockpuppe1> here
[02:44] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: we dont condone that sort of thing in here
[02:44] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth: it's not malicious :(
[02:45] <nalioth> sexcopter8000m: not the point.
[02:45] <hybrid_goth> sockpuppe1: its is all in your head
[02:45] <sexcopter8000m> nalioth: bah, ok
[02:45] <sockpuppe1> lol
[02:46] <vader1102> hehehe I got a good one for who ever...when using the wirelss, I cannot send email, when using the wired I can....any ideas?
[02:46] <konra`> sexcopter8000m, an encoded zip file?
[02:47] <kspath> xfce fvwm openbox3 are all nice for various reason   there are so many other nice ones though
[02:47] <konra`> gnome :p
[02:47] <DewDude> there we go
[02:47] <FuzzyTheBear> how about e17 ?
[02:47] <konra`> I will say though, that you are free to use whichever window manager you want
[02:48] <sockpuppe1> e17 is pretty cool
[02:48] <konra`> just imho gnome is best
[02:48] <sockpuppe1> lots of devel tho
[02:48] <FuzzyTheBear> from what i saw yes..  on a forum there's a how to also for it
[02:48] <jfosa> i'm getting fed up with the audio problems.. isn't there some way i can place a file from linux into my windows partition?
[02:48] <hybrid_goth> i like Xfce for the ease of using KDE programs with it
[02:48] <nalioth> !tell jfosa about windowsdrives
[02:48] <FuzzyTheBear> menu integration ?
[02:48] <konra`> jfosa: try "killall esd" in CLI before running the problematic audio thing
[02:48] <hybrid_goth> jfosa: yea burn it to a cd
[02:48] <Bad_Magic> jfosa: make a fat32 partition and put it there?
[02:48] <jfosa> konra`: yeah i tried that
[02:49] <konra`> ah.
[02:49] <nalioth> jfosa: if you are running an NTFS windows partition, i'm afraid you are out of luck
[02:49] <jfosa> nalioth: i am out of luck
[02:49] <nalioth> jfosa: writing to NTFS from linux is a good first step to an all linux box
[02:49] <jfosa> konra`: which video player do you have?
[02:49] <konra`> totem, the one that comes with ubuntu
[02:49] <konra`> do you have w32codecs ?
[02:50] <jfosa> i don't know how to extract things to different directories :(
[02:50] <jfosa> i downloaded the ones on the Mplayer site
[02:50] <konra`> ah.
[02:50] <konra`> I tried, but never got mplayer working
[02:50] <konra`> !mplayer
[02:50] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[02:50] <spiderworm> hey all, im running a 64 bit system and certain packages are a version or two behind the most recent versions of the software, such as the blender (currently have 2.36, 2.37a is available), and scorched3d (running an older version and there are no longer any servers that i can play on with my older version)... is there a place with the latest versions that im not finding?
[02:51] <nalioth> jfosa: use nautilus or konqueror
[02:51] <nalioth> spiderworm: you'll have to build from source
[02:51] <nalioth> spiderworm: have apt-get build them from the source repos for you
[02:51] <FuzzyTheBear> tcblo
[02:52] <spiderworm> nalioth: whys that?  why not just add updated packages to the repos?
[02:52] <setite> whats scorched3d
[02:52] <spiderworm> setite: download it if you've got good 3d acceleration, its fun
[02:52] <hybrid_goth> konra`: i used source for mplayer
[02:52] <hybrid_goth> worked perfect
[02:52] <Bad_Magic> Anyone tell me how to check what my current resolution is?
[02:53] <setite> ill check it out
[02:53] <setite> but that reminds me
[02:53] <setite> !ati
[02:53] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:53] <hybrid_goth> haha
[02:53] <neighborlee> why the heck an I being pushed into ubuntu-unregged instead of main ubuntu chanel..and YES I am a registered member of freenode
[02:53] <hybrid_goth> like, totally
[02:53] <neighborlee> and under serverlist I have: /msg nickserv identify mypassword..so this makes no sense
[02:54] <hybrid_goth> neighborlee: how did you get in here
[02:54] <setite> gotta install that as soon as kubuntu is done installing
[02:54] <Bubblefly> Woot~
[02:54] <setite> im back to linux once again
[02:54] <setite> jesus this is like the 5th time ive come back after quitting it
[02:54] <neighborlee> hybrid_goth, typed it manually via /join
[02:54] <number2178> i have about 50 tar files in folder. how can i "untar" them with one command ? i tried piping from  <find .> but failed
[02:54] <hybrid_goth> neighborlee: but an auto join doesnt work?
[02:55] <number2178> any ideas ?
[02:55] <neighborlee> hybrid_goth, oddly no it does not
[02:55] <zblach> hey, is there any quick command to open up a terminal from nautilus?
[02:55] <hybrid_goth> neighborlee: err tar *
[02:55] <NoUse> neighborlee your irc client might be trying to join #ubuntu before msg NickServ
[02:55] <hybrid_goth> zblach: haha a command to open a command line
[02:55] <hybrid_goth> ?
[02:55] <zblach> lol. meant some keyboard shortcut
[02:55] <setite> do you guys suggest me using gedit, the xserver reconfig, or sudo sed -i -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:55] <neighborlee> nouse, possibly I dunno..ubuntu is theonly channel acting like this though
[02:55] <number2178> i tried tar -xf *.tar
[02:55] <number2178> TAR returns  Not found in archive
[02:55] <neighborlee> nouse, xchat here
[02:56] <hybrid_goth> zblach: iirc it is like f10 or something
[02:56] <sockpuppe1> use xchat
[02:56] <sockpuppe1> gaim gets all crazy
[02:56] <hybrid_goth> use irssi
[02:56] <sockpuppe1> or issi
[02:56] <sockpuppe1> lol
[02:56] <sockpuppe1> irssi*
[02:56] <nalioths_dog> nalioth loves his powermac
[02:56] <nalioths_dog> esp when it locks solid
[02:57] <hybrid_goth> nalioths_dog: huh?
[02:57] <zblach> hybrid_goth, ???
[02:57] <sockpuppe1> man I hear you can run mac on x86 easy
[02:57] <hybrid_goth> zblach: nvm
[02:57] <hybrid_goth> sockpuppe1: not real easy
[02:57] <hybrid_goth> sockpuppe1: most require emulation at first
[02:57] <nalioths_dog> konqueror seems to trigger a "lockup" of my powermac (can't ssh in or anything)
[02:57] <sockpuppe1> i hear there is an x86 version of the os floating around
[02:58] <bimberi> zblach: set one up via System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts -> Run a Terminal (disabled by default)
[02:58] <vader1102> I have a mac running Ubuntu where I volunteer, it is awesome
[02:58] <sockpuppe1> vader wow
[02:58] <jfosa> linux can be overwhelming..
[02:58] <hybrid_goth> nalioths_dog: ouch. thats what you get for using a GUI
[02:58] <nalioths_dog> nalioth will have to find a file mangler that doesnt suck
[02:58] <hybrid_goth> sockpuppe1: kinda sorta
[02:58] <nalioths_dog> hybrid_goth, i'll deal with your attitude later
[02:58] <kspath> I am on my iBook running ubuntu PPC now
[02:58] <hybrid_goth> vader1102: my ibook runs ubuntu
[02:58] <hybrid_goth> nalioths_dog: hehe
[02:58] <jfosa> i'm so used to windows that having so much control is almost making me dizzy
[02:58] <vader1102> it is quite nice isn't it?
[02:59] <hybrid_goth> here puppy puppy puppy
[02:59] <sockpuppe1> LOL
[02:59] <vader1102> lol
[02:59] <bimberi> jfosa: there is a learning curve, steep at times, but rewarding (and sometimes fun)
[02:59] <nalioths_dog> jfosa, you'll get used to it
[02:59] <hybrid_goth> jfosa: haha
[02:59] <hybrid_goth> vader1102: yup
[02:59] <sockpuppe1> whats fvwm-gnome
[02:59] <vader1102> I have turned it into my workstation
[02:59] <zblach> bimberi, thanks
[02:59] <number2178> both bzip2 and gzip worked with *.[extension] , but not TRA
[02:59] <number2178> TAR
[03:00] <hybrid_goth> vader1102: osk ubuntu dual boot is heaven
[03:00] <hybrid_goth> there is nothing you cant do
[03:00] <kspath> my ubuntu PPC iBook is my workstation as well
[03:00] <bimberi> zblach: yw :) - btw i used <ctrl><alt>T
[03:00] <sockpuppe1> I dualboot
[03:00] <vader1102> I don't have dual boot but may try that in the next few weeks
[03:00] <kspath> I dumped MacOSX
[03:00] <number2178> this should be something very simple, i am just a newbie in Linux and most likely do not use piping correctly
[03:00] <hybrid_goth> kspath: ubuntu is better
[03:01] <vader1102> I have a dual boot between server 2003 and ubuntu bit not mac yet
[03:01] <hybrid_goth> but somethings dont work with PPC linux
[03:01] <vader1102> but^^
[03:01] <hybrid_goth> i.e. Skype
[03:01] <DewDude> i'll be upset if this thing is too slow to play a DVD
[03:01] <kspath> kino quits on me but I have been too lazy to determine why   otherwise I can do everything I could in MacOSX plus more
[03:01] <vader1102> hmmmmm... will send the mac home with the boss and see if he can get skype to work for him
[03:02] <zblach> bimberi, nice idea, but it'd help to be a terminal in the same folder. i.e. with the same path
[03:02] <DewDude> there is no skype for linux-PPC
[03:02] <zblach> can it be done?
[03:02] <hybrid_goth> DewDude: nope
[03:02] <nalioths_dog> DewDude, what hardware?
[03:02] <konra`> can breezy ship with tuxracer?
[03:02] <vader1102> hmmmmmm that is wierd....
[03:02] <hybrid_goth> kspath: hehe
[03:03] <kspath> I can use my Plextor DVD/CD burner and my epson stylus scan 2500  multifunction  scanner/printer perfectly when I could NOT in MacOSX
[03:03] <sockpuppe1> you know what
[03:03] <sockpuppe1> maybe ill dualboot with slackware
[03:03] <DewDude> nalioths_dog: it's an 400mhz iMac G3 DV
[03:03] <DewDude> it plays
[03:03] <DewDude> it's skipping
[03:03] <bimberi> zblach: not to my knowledge
[03:03] <bimberi> :|
[03:03] <CarlFK> there is http://www.openwengo.com for OSX
[03:03] <DewDude> that COULD be DMA
[03:03] <kspath> Apple wanted 130$ for a silly update     Ubuntu was free free free and works
[03:03] <nalioths_dog> DewDude, it'll play a dvd (hardware wise, anyway)
[03:03] <hybrid_goth> DewDude: did it come with a DVD drive?
[03:03] <DewDude> yes
[03:04] <CarlFK> for whoever wanted a voip app for the mac
[03:04] <DewDude> however, just because it'll play a DVD using macOS...doesn't mean it'll play one under linux
[03:04] <ubuntu-asker> !kernel
[03:04] <DewDude> i THOUGHT i enabled DMA
[03:04] <nalioths_dog> DewDude, once you install all the software required, it'll play
[03:04] <DewDude> well
[03:04] <DewDude> xine brings it up
[03:04] <DewDude> it just starts skipping
[03:05] <ubuntu-asker> hello, pls somebody can explain me the process of compile a kernel on ubuntu? is the same as other distros? download the source from kernel.org and make menuconfig?
[03:05] <DewDude> no
[03:05] <DewDude> ubuntu comes with a pre-compiled kernel
[03:05] <CarlFK> DewDude - look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats under dvd-vid
[03:06] <CarlFK> ubuntu-asker - why do you want to compile a kernel?
[03:06] <sockpuppe1> how do I enable dma?
[03:06] <CarlFK> sockpuppe1 - look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats under dvd-vid
[03:06] <ubuntu-asker> CarlFK, the question must be... why i dont?
[03:06] <DewDude> Carl: i installed all that
[03:06] <CarlFK> ubuntu-asker - because you don't need to
[03:07] <nalioths_dog> ubuntu-asker, use ubuntu kernel sources, for best results
[03:07] <ubuntu-asker> CarlFK, first, the kernel is full of modules (unnesesary), and second my sound doesnt work
[03:07] <CarlFK> ubuntu-asker - don't mess with the kernel for best resutls ;)
[03:07] <ubuntu-asker> CarlFK, on the contrary... compile the kernel for BEST results
[03:08] <sockpuppe1> Inappropriate ioctl for device.... what he hell is that?
[03:08] <DewDude> it's just not fast enough
[03:08] <CarlFK> ubuntu-asker - depends on your idea of BEST.
[03:09] <ubuntu-asker> i want to know if there is some "kernel fancy compile gui" to do that, using the actual kernel, so i dont mess with the headers...
[03:09] <nalioths_dog> !tell sockpuppe1 about dma
[03:09] <spiderworm> hey all is there a package for the lufs sshfs plugin?  i cant seem to find it on the repos...
[03:09] <No1Viking> !tell me about dma
[03:09] <ubuntu-asker> CarlFK, are you saying that a "precompiled" kernel is BEST than the one i can compile???
[03:09] <ubuntu-asker> *better
[03:10] <sockpuppe1> well mabe there us a better question
[03:10] <number2178> ok, i solved the problem. i created a list of files with find . > list and edited it - replaced ./ with  tar -xf
[03:10] <nalioths_dog> ubuntu-asker, you are not gonna see much of a difference
[03:10] <CarlFK> ubuntu-asker - no.  I am saying your overall linux experianc will be best if you just use what works.  if you need to fix sound, fix sound, not "everything"
[03:10] <sockpuppe1> nalioth can I pm you
[03:11] <nalioths_dog> nalioth will return shortly
[03:11] <konra`> ubuntu-asker, IF you can compile one :p
[03:11] <CarlFK> ubuntu-asker - if you want the kind of BEST you are looking for, become a kernel developer and make sure it it optimized for all the hardware you use.
[03:11] <alfzer0> I need some help with compiling a kernel module while using a custom kernel I installed from a .deb.  I think the guy that created the deb screwed up on the symlinks and EXTRAVERSION but I can't get my head around it
[03:11] <jfosa> i've never wanted to run bawling into my girlfriends arms when something worked before
[03:12] <konra`> wrong chan?
[03:12] <CarlFK> when the radio in my car has trouble, I don't rebuild my engine.
[03:12] <konra`> ah.
[03:12] <ubuntu-asker> CarlFK, i only want to know how can i do that on ubuntu without fear
[03:12] <konra`> lol
[03:12] <hybrid_goth> who asked of OSx86?
[03:12] <hybrid_goth> http://www.cyberia.in/blog/?p=176
[03:13] <DewDude> mmmmm...tasty mids :)
[03:13] <CarlFK> ubuntu-asker - there is a package you can install that has the patched srouces
[03:14] <CarlFK> but I found that was GENerally TOO much trouble
[03:14] <c0rrupt_> Hello, i need an exe extractor
[03:14] <DewDude> heh
[03:14] <c0rrupt_> like an installer
[03:14] <DewDude> CarlFK: nice
[03:14] <IcemanV9> lol @ CarlFK, how true
[03:14] <DewDude> before ubuntu..i tried doing gentoo
[03:14] <ubuntu-asker> CarlFK, i have no problem to leave this kernel, but there is a lot of modules that i dont need and i have no sound
[03:15] <DewDude> then someone said if i had a ppc that ubuntu would give me best hardware support
[03:15] <nalioth> DewDude: your mac should be fully supported
[03:15] <nalioth> sockpuppe1: what did you need?
[03:15] <DewDude> the only thing that's buggy is video
[03:15] <DewDude> and that's only DRI
[03:15] <sockpuppe1> you know whats funny? there is this distro which is just enlightenment dr17, but the whacky thing is that it automatically turns dma on if it is supported
[03:15] <sockpuppe1> nalioth I cant seem to get dma on
[03:16] <WolfPac_Ite> Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do you log in to Ubuntu for the first time? :\
[03:16] <ubuntu-asker> CarlFK, this system is for my bro so he can play games with cedega, so i only want a easy thing that just work (thats is why i installed ubuntu on his suystem)
[03:16] <NoUse> c0rrupt_ you might try wine
[03:16] <sockpuppe1> and I know my cd/dvd can use it
[03:16] <NoUse> WolfPac_Ite use the username/password you set up during installation
[03:16] <WolfPac_Ite> Oh, heh.
[03:16] <WolfPac_Ite> Thanks.
[03:16] <ubuntu-asker> CarlFK, so, how is the "normal" process to compile a kernel (or recompile the one im using right now)
[03:17] <WolfPac_Ite> I kind of feel stupid...
[03:17] <aru> WolfPac_Ite: no reason to :)
[03:17] <vader1102> WolfPac_Ite,  I still ask the stupid ones lol
[03:17] <NoUse> !kernelcompile
[03:17] <ubotu> You will probably find info about this at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[03:17] <IcemanV9> sockpuppe1: hdparm will turn dma on
[03:17] <CarlFK> ubuntu-asker - yeah, that.
[03:17] <DewDude> nah, don't feel stupid
[03:18] <DewDude> i'm sure some of the stuff i've asked/said could be found easily using google..i'm just a Nix-Tard
[03:18] <ubuntu-asker> NoUse, thanks i try with !kernel
[03:18] <aru> WolfPac_Ite: next to google, asking questions is the easiest way to learn :)
[03:18] <DewDude> and i'm trying to overcome that
[03:18] <DewDude> then again, i'm trying to learn linux on a ppc system..but..meh
[03:18] <jo_e> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.: do I need ide-scsi module?
[03:18] <MDM> Anyone know how or where do I put programs I want to startup in XFCE4?
[03:18] <WolfPac_Ite> I always over-complicate things. :(
[03:18] <NoUse> DewDude I'm tempted to get a Mac Mini and dual boot it MAcOS and Ubuntu
[03:19] <DewDude> i'd dual-boot if i knew anything about macs and the way they boot
[03:19] <DewDude> i'm surprised i got this thing to boot
[03:19] <bur[n] er> anyone familiar with win2k & qemu??
[03:19] <NoUse> DewDude haha
[03:19] <DewDude> i've heard that mac hardware doesn't like booting non-apple software
[03:19] <DewDude> and it took me three tries to get it to not spit the kubuntu disc at me
[03:20] <NoUse> DewDude well what fun would it be if it worked without a hitch :-)
[03:20] <nalioth> DewDude: dual booting your mac is easy
[03:20] <DewDude> nalioth: it sounds tempting
[03:20] <DewDude> i've only got a 10 gig drive in here
[03:20] <DewDude> i'm sure OSX takes up a huge chunk of disk
[03:20] <Bad_Magic> yay i got ndiswrapper working
[03:20] <nalioth> DewDude: hybrid_goth knows everything there is to know about dual booting macs, heh
[03:20] <Bad_Magic> =0
[03:21] <vader1102> Bad_Magic, congrats
[03:21] <spiderworm> hi all im trying to mount an sftp connection using lufs but its not working, can anyone help?
[03:21] <Bad_Magic> not sure what exactly i did, but it now shows hardware working and can bring eth0 up
[03:21] <Bad_Magic> good enough for me
[03:21] <Bad_Magic> =x
[03:21] <DewDude> see, i only took this thing because my sister owes me money
[03:21] <DewDude> and on top of that i had to give her my spare PC
[03:21] <Bad_Magic> er not eth0
[03:21] <Bad_Magic> whatever
[03:21] <Bad_Magic> =P
[03:21] <Bad_Magic> wlan0
[03:21] <Bad_Magic> =)
[03:21] <DewDude> it's not the best hardware in the world...at the same time..it's a small system i could use to learn linux on
[03:22] <Bad_Magic> is there a scanning agent built into ubuntu for essids?
[03:22] <vader1102> DewDude, it is nice to see that you got the kubuntu ISO downloaded and burnt
[03:22] <nalioth> DewDude: you are in the best possible state. you mac is FULLY supported under ubuntu
[03:22] <vader1102> Bad_Magic, iwlist scan
[03:22] <daggie> How good is Ubuntu's wireless pcmcia card support? I have a Linksys G notbook adapter, and Curious how involved getting that to work will be.
[03:22] <alfzer0> sudo modprobe ipw2200; FATAL: Error inserting ipw2200 (/lib/modules/2.6.1007072005.win4lin/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko): Invalid module format.    I'm running a patched 2.6.10 686 Ubuntu kernel to give support for win4lin, however, I can't compile my nic kernel module correctly now.  When I run modinfo on ipw2200, vermagic is "2.6.10-5-386 preempt 386 gcc-3.3" but based on other modules it should be "2.6.1007072005.win4lin preem
[03:22] <alfzer0> pt 686 gcc-3.3", any help?
[03:22] <codecaine> Bad_Magic, use kismet or just use iwlist --scan
[03:23] <DewDude> nalioth: what about the crashing i've read about when enabling DRI on the Ati Rage 128?
[03:23] <DewDude> vader: this mac spit the disc out twice
[03:23] <DewDude> but, it did take it
[03:23] <DewDude> and once it read it, installed without a hitch
[03:23] <DewDude> i haven't put it back in since it ejected, don't think there's a real need anyway since i can get packages via http/ftp
[03:23] <vader1102> still, thats what it's all about...having it work right
[03:23] <DewDude> well
[03:24] <DewDude> there's a few things that don't
[03:24] <DewDude> stuff i've got to get used to
[03:24] <Bad_Magic> kismet?
[03:24] <codecaine> 07072005 was my bday :)
[03:25] <DewDude> i mean, the dedicated server i'm on runs gentoo...but i didn't have to configure that
[03:25] <codecaine> kismet has alot of advanced features for wireless
[03:25] <nalioth> DewDude: i have no clue about DRI
[03:25] <DewDude> most of what i've done there is emerging stuff and maybe editing a few config files
[03:25] <Bad_Magic> is it installed by default? or do i need to install it
[03:25] <ksmurf> is there a flag I use on glxgears to show frame rates?
[03:25] <DewDude> the last actual distro i ran was archlinux..last year..i gave up after i needed windows for full sound support
[03:25] <neighborlee> ksmurf, it shows it in the terminal where you ran it
[03:25] <codecaine> alfzer0, did you try removing the previous module install first by doing a make clean etc..?
[03:25] <DewDude> this iMac doesn't need full sound...so
[03:26] <codecaine> Bad_Magic, need to install kismet but you can just do iwlist --scan i believe
[03:26] <alfzer0> yup
[03:26] <DewDude> i figure i'll keep linux on there cuz i'm lazy and doubt tiger would run very well on it
[03:26] <Bad_Magic> im all for gui
[03:26] <Bad_Magic> especially as a noob
[03:26] <ksmurf> neighborlee .... not right in breezy.  It runs but no frame rates
[03:26] <Bad_Magic> so ill try kismet =P
[03:26] <vader1102> <----downloading kismet right now to look at it
[03:26] <neighborlee> ksmurf, well thats odd..first i've ever heard of such a thing
[03:26] <dducko> Anyone here ran NWN on Ubuntu?
[03:26] <codecaine> Bad_Magic, kismet is curses based and it takes some config reading to make it work with your wireless card, but not really difficult at all
[03:27] <tom17h> forgive the annoying question -- is it still a very bad idea to apt-get dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy, or has it become merely a mildly bad idea? I'm pretty interested in seeing/testing the latest gtk/GNOME stuff, but don't want to destroy my system :)
[03:27] <ksmurf> neighborlee .... that's why I am looking for flags
[03:27] <codecaine> tom17h, i'd wait
[03:27] <Bad_Magic> FATAL: Unable to open cisco control file '/proc/driver/aironet/eth0/Config' 2:No such file or directory
[03:27] <alfzer0> codecaine - im pretty sure i need to do something to the EXTRAVERSION line in a Makefile to get the vermagic line to be correct when I run modinfo on the module I compile
[03:28] <tom17h> codecaine: ok. have you tried it?
[03:28] <alfzer0> i just don't know which one, and if my symlinks are setup correctly
[03:28] <neighborlee> ksmurf, running it in gnome-terminal ?
[03:28] <NoHope> hello all
[03:28] <ksmurf> yes
[03:28] <jdub> tom17h: shouldn't be too bad right now
[03:28] <codecaine> the latest milestone colony3
[03:28] <WolfPac_Ite> Is learning the console commands hard?
[03:28] <jdub> tom17h: it's a pretty smooth upgrade
[03:28] <codecaine> WolfPac_Ite, no
[03:28] <NoHope> WolfPac_Ite, sure no.
[03:28] <MDM> what application does Gnome use to start programs at startup?
[03:28] <ksmurf> fresh install of breezy with nvidia-glx
[03:28] <Bad_Magic> hmm, iwlist scan comes up with no results... odd considering i know there are at least 2 APs in range
[03:28] <WolfPac_Ite> Good. :)
[03:28] <codecaine> WolfPac_Ite, just do man <commandname> to learnthem
[03:28] <NoHope> WolfPac_Ite, try some tutos in the net.
[03:28] <jdub> tom17h: and breezy is working nicely atm
[03:28] <grspr> i run ubuntu hoary on a ppc, what videoplayer would be easy to install?
[03:29] <jdub> MDM: gnome-session
[03:29] <ksmurf> vlc
[03:29] <MDM> thanks jdub!
[03:29] <WolfPac_Ite> Thanks guys for all help.
[03:29] <jdub> grspr: you've got totem, you might want to try totem-xine
[03:29] <NoHope> WolfPac_Ite, english? I know a very good tutorial in Portuguese.
[03:29] <DewDude> i didn't have a problem installing of them
[03:29] <tom17h> jdub: a bit over a week ago I tried & there was some X problems. I ended up reinstalling hoary.
[03:29] <ksmurf> MDM sessiond
[03:29] <ksmurf> MDM sessions
[03:29] <NoHope> grspr, I like totem and gxine.
[03:29] <MDM> ok
[03:29] <grspr> jdub where do i find totem xine?
[03:29] <WolfPac_Ite> English yes.
[03:29] <codecaine> alfzer0, i'm not really sure
[03:29] <nalioth> grspr: any of them
[03:29] <ksmurf> grspr vlc
[03:29] <NoHope> GregAsche, apt-get
[03:29] <jdub> MDM: the correct answer is gnome-session
[03:29] <NoHope> GregAsche, ops... wrong message.
[03:29] <NoHope> grspr, try apt-get install totem
[03:30] <ksmurf> neighborlee .... any ideas?
[03:30] <codecaine> tom17h, should be fairly safe for the next colony release
[03:30] <neighborlee> ksmurf, nope none
[03:30] <grspr> i dont have internet on the computer im using, so i cant apt get
[03:30] <tom17h> Thanks.
[03:30] <Bad_Magic> cant you download the package to one computer and just move it to the other then apt-get?
[03:30] <grspr> on the computer that i have ubuntu on...
[03:30] <codecaine> alfzer0, try going to an irc channel related to that wireless chip
[03:30] <NoHope> grspr, you must have to download it from the web. You can download the sources from the official website, burn in a cd and compile install on ubuntu.
[03:30] <codecaine> alfzer0, or get on the ipw2200 forums im sure you'll find the answer
[03:30] <MDM> yep so it is gnome-session
[03:31] <alfzer0> will do
[03:31] <DewDude> you know what blows...i got 59 gigs of music to convert to q4ogg and burn..and i got 3 hours to do it in
[03:31] <grspr> NoHope yea, but where is the file at? =)
[03:31] <WolfPac_Ite> I'm usually on the other end of stick when it comes to windows/network/hardware help.  Eww
[03:31] <codecaine> alfzer0, did you also dbl check to make sure no lingering ipw2200.ko laying around?
[03:31] <NoHope> grspr, do you know how to compile the sources?
[03:31] <DewDude> kevogod: yes, please, allow me to explain
[03:32] <DewDude> my portable player won't do flac or musepac
[03:32] <DewDude> or mp4 for that matter
[03:32] <Epix> SHIT!
[03:32] <codecaine> DewDude, not happening man heh
[03:32] <nalioth> grspr: are you using synaptic?
[03:32] <DewDude> i know
[03:32] <Epix> im getting a kernel panic on init
[03:32] <alfzer0> codecaine: ya, there is some scripts that come with the driver to remove old version
[03:32] <grspr> NoHope ive done that.
[03:32] <DewDude> i'd have to get my dad's cpu in the mix
[03:32] <Bad_Magic> anyone have any idea why iwlist scan brings up nothing when there are definitely APs in range?
[03:32] <Epix> i just put in a new CDROM drive
[03:32] <codecaine> alfzer0, ok
[03:32] <Epix> BIOS doesnt detect it
[03:32] <grspr> nalioth i can because i dont have any internet
[03:32] <codecaine> alfzer0, just confused because i see its compiling against your custom kernel
[03:32] <NoHope> grspr, don't [./configure; make; make install]  work?
[03:32] <Epix> Kernel panic says: not syncing Attempted to kill INIT
[03:33] <kevogod> DewDude: Is most of your music FLAC?
[03:33] <DewDude> but, i transcode only when it's for portable player purposes
[03:33] <nalioth> grspr: when you get internet and can update your sources, you'll see totem-xine
[03:33] <DewDude> kevo: a bit
[03:33] <Epix> help!
[03:33] <codecaine> Epix, try starting the kernel with noapic acpi=off
[03:33] <DewDude> lot of it is MPC
[03:33] <alfzer0> codecaine - actually, i think its trying to compile against the original kernel and not the custom one
[03:33] <grspr> NoHope probably, but i dont have the gxine source. =)
[03:33] <Epix> codecaine: could it be because i have 2 master drives on the same cable?
[03:33] <codecaine> DewDude, i would think you would use mp3 for portable and ogg on your linux if anything?
[03:33] <DewDude> no
[03:33] <codecaine> DewDude, because of proprietary crap
[03:34] <NoHope> grspr, ah... one minute.
[03:34] <DewDude> my portable supports ogg
[03:34] <DewDude> somewhat
[03:34] <codecaine> even though some mp3 players support ogg
[03:34] <DewDude> i flashed mine with the korean firmware
[03:34] <DewDude> it plays ogg
[03:34] <DewDude> just..not high bitrate and not low bitrate
[03:34] <NoHope> grspr, http://xinehq.de/index.php/releases
[03:34] <codecaine> alfzer0, you must be right because of the results, can't you watch your compile to see which kernel libs its using?
[03:34] <NoHope> grspr, a lot of "xines" for you.
[03:34] <virgule> hello help me use that USB key I need to put a file in it
[03:34] <DewDude> however since the integer decoder came out...iriver MIGHT be able to do something about that, if they're still working on the code for thier iriver CD units
[03:34] <grspr> NoHope thx
[03:34] <ksmurf> neighborlee .... 400 = fps in ppracer.  what other tests should I run?
[03:34] <IcemanV9> yo, is there another CLI command to find out which /dev for CD or/and DVD drives?? besides dmesg?
[03:35] <NoHope> grspr, yw
[03:35] <codecaine> DewDude, what mp3 plyr u got?
[03:35] <DewDude> iRiver "SlimX" imp-359
[03:35] <DewDude> err
[03:35] <DewDude> 350
[03:35] <DewDude> see..the linux machine SHOULD play everything natively
[03:35] <alfzer0> codecaine: ya, im about to again, i made a change to a Makefile to see if tthat would fix it, one sec while i recompile
[03:35] <IcemanV9> dmesg is full of errors message now, so.
[03:35] <DewDude> at least when i had linux on my x86 i could play all my formats through XMMS flawlessly
[03:35] <DewDude> even APE
[03:35] <codecaine> Epix, i would definately change that
[03:35] <Epix> codecaine: but could it cause the rror
[03:35] <codecaine> DewDude, never used ape
[03:36] <DewDude> monkeys audio
[03:36] <codecaine> Epix, it may, im not sure
[03:36] <DewDude> came out before FLAC
[03:36] <Name1> I'm having some problems with font, clear type and resolutions in ubuntu. I have just installed the OS and set up drivers for my videocard. My monitor supports a resolution of max 1280x1024 and a refresh hz of 75. But i am not able to choose that resolution nor am i able to choose the 75 Hz. What could be the problem?
[03:36] <virgule> I need help for a USB key
[03:36] <DewDude> but was Windows only for a while
[03:36] <codecaine> DewDude, im not up with all the music formats, just familiar with ogg, mp3, flac, faad
[03:36] <wolki> hi!
[03:37] <DewDude> faad is an mpeg4 decoder
[03:37] <DewDude> not a format
[03:37] <Name1> The max resolution i can choose is 1024x768 @ 60 Hz.
[03:37] <codecaine> DewDude, see im not up on all that
[03:37] <DewDude> well
[03:37] <DewDude> see
[03:37] <DewDude> i kinda became an audio geek
[03:37] <DewDude> which prohibited earlier conversions to linux as audio support was nil
[03:37] <CarlFK> DewDude - have you checked out moose-pack?
[03:38] <DewDude> and even tho it's gotten better...i can't do stuff in linux that makes me money
[03:38] <DewDude> no
[03:38] <DewDude> errr
[03:38] <DewDude> heh
[03:38] <DewDude> you mean musepack?
[03:38] <codecaine> DewDude, agh so you familiar with rosegarden, audacity etc...?
[03:38] <codecaine> DewDude, do you use those for music stuff?
[03:38] <DewDude> yes
[03:38] <DewDude> i tried audicity
[03:38] <CarlFK> musepack - yea
[03:38] <wolki> i just dist-upgraded to breezy... things seem to work, but mono apps won't start. Tells me it can't find the required assemblies. Does anyone have an idea how to fix this?
[03:38] <DewDude> it doesn't perform up to my expectations
[03:38] <sockpuppe1> big fan of audacity
[03:38] <sockpuppe1> but try wired
[03:38] <DewDude> CarlFK: funny story about that
[03:39] <codecaine> DewDude, what do u use on windows?
[03:39] <sockpuppe1> its pretty kickass
[03:39] <DewDude> i was around for the original betatests
[03:39] <codecaine> wired?
[03:39] <DewDude> codecaine: either Goldwave or Adobe Audition
[03:39] <alfzer0> codecaine: make -C /lib/modules/2.6.1007072005.win4lin/build M=/home/redsmurf/install_ipw2200/ipw2200-1.0.6 MODVERDIR=/home/redsmurf/install_ipw2200/ipw2200-1.0.6/tmp/.tmp_versions modules
[03:39] <alfzer0> make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-686'
[03:39] <sockpuppe1> ill give you the link
[03:39] <virgule> Name1: do    gtf 1280 1024 75    in a terminal then paste the output as the last line of Section "Monitor" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf - restart
[03:39] <codecaine> wired doesn't seem to be in repos, what's the site?
[03:39] <DewDude> i knew about musepack back when it was known as MpegPlus...and back when the original author was working on it
[03:39] <sockpuppe1> http://bloodshed.net/wired/?sid=1
[03:40] <Bad_Magic> figured oiut why kismet wouldnt start... cant use it with ndiswrapper --gg dell laptop
[03:40] <Bad_Magic> =\
[03:40] <codecaine> alfzer0, which kernel are u running on right now?
[03:40] <DewDude> hands-down the best lossy out there
[03:40] <codecaine> DewDude, what's musepack all about?
[03:40] <DewDude> well
[03:40] <Epix> FUCK
[03:40] <DewDude> high-quality lossy
[03:41] <DewDude> it's pure-VBR
[03:41] <aru> Epix: knock it off
[03:41] <Epix> i even unplugged a CDROM drive, no boot
[03:41] <alfzer0> codecaine: 2.6.1007072005.win4lin
[03:41] <Epix> aru: sorry
[03:41] <CarlFK> http://www.musepack.com
[03:41] <DewDude> it's based on the mpeg2 subband encoding method
[03:41] <alfzer0> codecaine: which is a patched ubuntu 2.6.10 686 kernel
[03:41] <DewDude> extensive physcoacoustic model revamps tho
[03:41] <DewDude> man..i remember when buschnell was working on those
[03:41] <codecaine> alfzer0, so its not a new kernel you built from scratch?
[03:42] <Bad_Magic> so, what ways are there to scan for wireless networks using a ndiswrapper card?
[03:42] <alfzer0> codecaine: i wish, i was having problems with patches, its a kenel i installed from a .deb from a guy on the ubuntuforums
[03:42] <CarlFK> Bad_Magic - wifi-radar
[03:42] <codecaine> Bad_Magic, i told u man
[03:42] <DewDude> it was designed to be transparent at lower-bitrates
[03:42] <Bad_Magic> kismet doesnt work
[03:42] <DewDude> it's "standard" profile sounds very good
[03:42] <Bad_Magic> and i didnt see anything with the other one
[03:42] <codecaine> Bad_Magic, check gnome-files.org for a gui interface
[03:42] <nalioths_dog> Epix, watch the language, please
[03:42] <codecaine> Bad_Magic, it needs to be configured that's why
[03:43] <Bad_Magic> you cant use ndiswrapper cards with kismet, straight from the authors keyboard
[03:43] <codecaine> agh
[03:43] <alfzer0> codecaine: unfortunately he didn't supply the source
[03:43] <codecaine> alfzer0, something's goofy with that patch, need to check the forums on that one, sorry
[03:44] <codecaine> alfzer0, not the patches issue but the patch is causing the problem heh if that makes sense
[03:44] <cliebow_> Bad_Magic did you read marvels artivle on wlassistant?
[03:44] <DewDude> codecaine: musepack is also the only lossy format that's capeable of not screwing up the first few seconds of Fatboy Slim - Kalifornia
[03:44] <Bad_Magic> no: hit me with a link?
[03:44] <codecaine> DewDude, not aware about Fatboy being famous for screwing up on any format heh
[03:44] <cliebow_> itis latest linux journal..marcel gagne//
[03:44] <DewDude> heh
[03:45] <DewDude> most don't
[03:45] <cliebow_> www.linuxjournal.com/article/8398
[03:45] <DewDude> but...it's quite a complex sound
[03:45] <Bad_Magic> thanks a ton clie
[03:45] <codecaine> Bad_Magic, gnome-files.org and search for wireless apps on their, you got a couple
[03:45] <DewDude> see...when mpc was being coded, and it got beta tested..we purposely sent difficult signals through it
[03:45] <Bad_Magic> www.gone-files.org can not be found?
[03:45] <DewDude> which they never did with mp3
[03:45] <Bad_Magic> er gnome
[03:45] <Bad_Magic> heh
[03:46] <alfzer0> codecaine: im a bit confused about one thing...what exactly are kernel-headers?  Is it just a dir of symlinks to the kernel source for each installed kernel?
[03:47] <codecaine> gnomefiles.org sorry
[03:47] <DewDude> i'm kind of a audiophile..i know audio
[03:47] <cliebow_> welcome
[03:47] <DewDude> i've got remastering credits
[03:47] <codecaine> DewDude, guess so :)
[03:47] <DewDude> street date TBA
[03:47] <DewDude> cuz
[03:47] <DewDude> heh..the CD hasn't even been pressed
[03:47] <Epix> NO! i restored the system to how it was before i made the modifications. and i get a DIFFERENT kernel panic!
[03:47] <DewDude> nor have i recieved money for my work
[03:47] <Epix> *cries*
[03:48] <codecaine> alfzer0, you don't need those really for your compiling
[03:48] <codecaine> alfzer0, they're only meant for userspace stuff
[03:48] <nalioth> Epix: livecd, backup your homedir, and take the easy way out
[03:48] <DewDude> however..i never did give the guy his DVD masters
[03:49] <alfzer0> codecaine: ah, so when compiling a kernel module, it should compile against the source, not the headers?
[03:49] <codecaine> by the doc says only some c libraries require them
[03:49] <Epix> This time it says: Modules linked in: CPU:0.... Not tainted VLI
[03:49] <Epix> and more, till Attempted to kill ini!
[03:49] <Epix> init!
[03:50] <codecaine> alfzer0, yeah you don't need headers, it compiles against source or your build which ever comes first in the script i believe but don't hold me to the ordering
[03:50] <wolki> rebooting
[03:50] <alfzer0> codecaine: thanks, that clears it up a bit
[03:50] <codecaine> DewDude, did that guy give link for wired?
[03:50] <DewDude> but, if you wanna get confused...ask me about my sound setup
[03:50] <DewDude> oh...i don't know
[03:50] <Epix> now i get the old error again :(
[03:50] <DewDude> i've been tryin to get my kubuntu box the way i want it and pack a bowl
[03:52] <codecaine> Epix, did you try using just one drive at the moment?
[03:52] <Epix> codecaine: yep
[03:52] <codecaine> Epix, older system/motherboard?
[03:52] <Xanthus7> I need to update my kernel headers to install a program what is the apt-get command for that please
[03:52] <alfzer0> codecaine: is it also possible that i have this problem because the guy that compiled the kernel did so with a different version of gcc?
[03:52] <Epix> codecaine: not really. AMD athlon 1ghz
[03:52] <Epix> codecaine: i forget the mobo model
[03:53] <Xanthus7> I need to update my kernel headers to install a program what is the apt-get command for that please
[03:54] <codecaine> alfzer0, not sure about that, you're patch did what to your system? what did it patch?
[03:55] <virgule> come on people.. give me some help I just need to put a file on a USB key-thingy but Im running in circle goole is lame pleeaaasse help me it should be easy?
[03:55] <alfzer0> codecaine: im not sure all of what it did, but i know it alters the mki_adapter module
[03:55] <codecaine> Epix, you can try the ubuntuforums.org to see if other people have similar issues and to see for a response
[03:55] <codecaine> alfzer0, doesn't sound to me gcc is the issue
[03:55] <bur[n] er> w00t... rhythmbox works in breezy again!!!
[03:55] <CarlFK> virgule -have you done lsusb?
[03:55] <codecaine> ipw2100 doesn't care about that module
[03:56] <bimberi> Xanthus7: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` (will install the headers)
[03:56] <virgule> ..just did it.. 3 line sof output
[03:57] <DewDude> whoa
[03:57] <alfzer0> codecaine: alright, I'll work on some stuff, thanks for the help
[03:57] <codecaine> virgule, unplug your device, plug it back in, then do dmesg
[03:57] <DewDude> there's electronics software
[03:57] <CarlFK> virgule - what is the line that shows the device?
[03:57] <codecaine> virgule, it should tell u something like uba -> uba1
[03:57] <codecaine> alfzer0, np
[03:57] <chiklit> Is there a default root password? Because it didn't ask me for one and now I can't log in as root.
[03:58] <Xanthus7> ty
[03:58] <virgule> i seam to mean its recognised as 'dick sdc'
[03:58] <codecaine> chiklit, you dont use root typically in ubuntu
[03:58] <codecaine> chiklit, you use sudo <command> and then type in your password
[03:59] <codecaine> virgule, there you go try to mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/usb
[03:59] <codecaine> virgule, create /mnt/usb first
[03:59] <CarlFK> codecaine - /media...
[03:59] <codecaine> chiklit, you can do sudo passwd to create one
[04:00] <chiklit> ok
[04:00] <codecaine> CarlFK, or /media im just use to /mnt/usb heh
[04:00] <postondb> Evening
[04:00] <codecaine> CarlFK, by putting it in /media it will show up in gnome desktop/nautilus correct?
[04:00] <djur> does anyone know how to install "csh" in ubuntu?
[04:00] <virgule> only root can do that --> normal? --It seam to work (no error messages.. I guess its in /mnt/usb/?
[04:00] <lunitik> !tell chiklit about root
[04:00] <CarlFK> codecaine - du know
[04:00] <virgule> it is!!
[04:00] <postondb> anyone know what's up with http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/ ?
[04:01] <codecaine> CarlFK, ?
[04:01] <virgule> hug codecaine
[04:01] <EasterSunshine> i am hearing everything i say into my mic on my speakers
[04:01] <EasterSunshine> how do i stop it?
[04:01] <lunitik> codecaine: don't tell people how to activate root in here... its not recommended or supported... instead point them at the wiki...
[04:01] <codecaine> virgule, :)
[04:01] <EasterSunshine> i looked for line-in optoins in kmix, couldn't find anything
[04:02] <codecaine> lunitik, sure
[04:02] <kairu0> lunitik: i learned how to activate root here and it made my life better
[04:02] <djur> I need CSH installed in order to install CUP so I can get my stupid brother MFC printer to work
[04:02] <djur> anyone know how to get CSH installed?
[04:02] <codecaine> EasterSunshine, turn down the gain?
[04:02] <djur> C shell that is
[04:02] <lunitik> codecaine: you'll note the wiki _does_ tell how to activate it... but explains better the Ubuntu Way (tm)