[07:55] <aluno> hdffffffffiiggzzzddddddddkhhhhhhhhxxxx
[07:55] <aluno> ggggghhhhhhhhhzzzzdddddddddddddddh
[07:55] <aluno> ddddddddddfhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhdddddfffhhhhhh
[07:55] <aluno> dddfyhhhhhhhrrrrrrtttttttuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[07:55] <aluno> uuuuuiiiiiii
[07:55] <aluno> yhhhhhhjjjjjdddddgghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:56] <aluno> fffffffffeeeeeeeeeeeeeefffffffeeeeeeeeeeeee
[07:56] <aluno> ooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[07:56] <aluno> oiiiiiiii
[07:56] <aluno> fggggggggggghhhhhhhhfxxxxgggggggggggggghhhhhhhh
[07:56] <aluno> hhhhhHHUUUAAAAAAAAAASHHHHHHUUUUUAAAAAHHHHHhhddddduuUUAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[07:56] <magdeburger> mindestens
[07:56] <aluno> HUUDDDDDDDHHHHHAAAUUUUUUUUUUUuuhhhuUUUUUUUUUAAAAA
[07:56] <gleng> Hmm, it doesn't appear to disable the minimizing/maximizing animations though :)
[07:56] <maney> oh bother!
[07:56] <shore> gleng, do the settings take effect immediately or do you have to log out and back in?
[07:57] <gleng> It's _usually_ immediate. But it can't hurt to try logging out and in.
[07:58] <ompaul> maney, I am looking for it, I found something that aluded to that a while ago
[07:58] <shore> Does ppp0 show up in the networking tool?
[07:58] <icewt> maney, you can disable it by running gconf-editor and checking /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources. but it has other not-so-desirable effects too
[07:58] <troy> is there any way to create a custom install CD using a different kernel?
[07:59] <Amaranth> Next time someone is flooding like that please say '!ops' (no quotes).
[07:59] <maney> oh man, there's a whole mess of "animations" keys in this thing.  never mind, easier to switch to XP where I'm pretty sure it's a configurable option.  Not!
[08:00] <Amaranth> troy: It's mostly undocumented and not many have done it, but yeah.
[08:00] <sadf> where can i manually download xfce4.2 packages for ubuntu?
[08:00] <troy> Amaranth: would I follow the docs for the custom live cd but using a different set of seeds?
[08:00] <maney> I found another one that does nothing, and one that can't be touched because it's slaved to the theme.  I'll bet the latter is the problem.
[08:00] <Amaranth> troy: no idea
[08:00] <johny5> What is the default root password?
[08:00] <Gabriel> how do I configure an eth0?
[08:01] <Amaranth> troy: i know it is very non-trivial
[08:01] <magdeburger> gute n8 @ all, schlaft gut und traeumt was schnes
[08:01] <troy> it's the only way I'd be able to install on one of my machines... 2.6.10 doesn't have working IDE drivers
[08:01] <shore> johny5, i think there is no root password - everything is done using sudo
[08:01] <johny5> but there has to be a way to log in as root...
[08:01] <maney> thanks guys!  it's not worth any more trouble - i can always go back to icewm or some other less all-encompassing frameworkt aht doesn't restrict me so much if I decide I cna't stand it.  :-/
[08:01] <gleng> johny5, there isn't one. But you can create one with 'sudu passwd'.
[08:01] <johny5> Gabriel: ifconfig
[08:02] <gasman> johny5, its scrambeled, you can change it if you do sudo passwd
[08:02] <gleng> *sudo
[08:02] <johny5> Ok, thanks gleng
[08:02] <Gabriel> thanx johny5
[08:02] <johny5> no problem Gabriel
[08:03] <shore> johny5, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:03] <johny5> Just took care of it, thanks shore
[08:03] <Gabriel> with ifconfig it shows only "lo", while I need eth0...
[08:03] <Gabriel> how come?
[08:03] <johny5> ifconfig --help will give you commands
[08:04] <Gabriel> thx... will be back ;-)
[08:04] <johny5> to bring up eth0, you'll wanna do "ifconfig up eth0"
[08:05] <MartenH> What software is recomended for a webcam?
[08:05] <andrew> Hi all, looking for installation advice on Compaq Proliant 5000 server
[08:05] <gleng> Gabriel, try ifconfig eth0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, where xxxs = the ip address you want.
[08:05] <MartenH> To start just to show it on screen, later possibly upload to a server through ftp
[08:06] <shore> MartenH, GnomeMeeting?
[08:06] <MartenH> shore, ok, I'll look at that. Found a mentioneing of xawtv too, is that any good?
[08:07] <chrissturm> do i need restricted modules for a usb webcam to work?
[08:07] <shore> MartenH, dont know - never tried it
[08:08] <uboyo> hi, I set rhythmbox to look through my homedir for stuff, but after a while, the system has become really sluggish. gkrellm says there's no swap space free, and I can't ssh in; am I out of luck?
[08:09] <andrew> Installation keeps hanging at RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0. Anybody have an idea?
[08:10] <Gabriel> how would I be able to pass files from my computer to a MiniDisc? Digtally...
[08:12] <dabaR> dude, stop spamming
[08:12] <johny5> Gabriel: ...last I checked all you could do is rearrange tracks on MD from Linux
[08:13] <shore> gleng, i notice in my log while using gconfd-editor that the config files are non-writeable and that the settings cannot be saved
[08:13] <tim> whats the command that will bring me through the steps of making a new xorg.conf?
[08:13] <shore> gleng, maybe that's why your settings didn't get saved
[08:13] <gleng> That's a bit odd.
[08:14] <dabaR> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:14] <dabaR> I believe that is what you want
[08:14] <turkuaz> why isn't there any i386 iso's on cdimage.ubuntu.com
[08:14] <tim> dabaR, thats it...thx
[08:15] <gleng> shore, I'll chown -R my home directory to be safe :)
[08:15] <dabaR> turkuaz: why are you looking at that site?
[08:15] <Amaranth> turkuaz: because i386 building is broken
[08:15] <dabaR> seems like some weird up to date thing.
[08:15] <shore> gleng, see log at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/878
[08:15] <turkuaz> Amaranth, thx
[08:16] <dabaR> Amaranth: whats up? whats new?
[08:16] <dabaR> if anything that is.
[08:16] <Amaranth> dabaR: ?
[08:16] <dabaR> any new and exciting programs or whatever?
[08:16] <Amaranth> http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg-devel/loading_everything.png
[08:16] <Amaranth> heh
[08:16] <Amaranth> oh, and smeg is in GNOME CVS now
[08:16] <Amaranth> that's about it
[08:17] <shore> is there any talk of adding support for DSL interfaces to the networking tool?
[08:17] <Amaranth> shore: you mean pppoe?
[08:17] <Amaranth> there is some tool for that...
[08:17] <shore> Amaranth, yes
[08:17] <Amaranth> i think you run pppoeconf in a terminal
[08:17] <Davey> Amaranth!
[08:17] <Amaranth> hey Davey
[08:18] <shore> yes, that did work fine. however it would fail if eth0 was set to "unconfigured" in networking
[08:18] <Davey> Amaranth, wheres my Smeg 0.8? :)
[08:18] <dabaR> pretty cool.
[08:18] <gleng> shore, that's really strange. I thought it saved all your personal gconf settings under ~/.gconfd
[08:18] <Amaranth> Davey: http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg-devel/loading_everything.png <--in progress
[08:18] <dabaR> Amaranth: pretty cool, that is.
[08:18] <Davey> Amaranth, copy and paste btw? ::)
[08:18] <Amaranth> Davey: ?
[08:18] <Belutz> is it ok to help translating on launchpad ?
[08:18] <Davey> Amaranth, possible?
[08:18] <shore> gleng, i was surprised also
[08:19] <Amaranth> Belutz: you mean in rosetta?
[08:19] <Belutz> Amaranth: yup
[08:19] <Amaranth> Davey: It was before my HD crashed and I had to start over.
[08:19] <Amaranth> Belutz: Please do.
[08:19] <Belutz> Amaranth: ok i will
[08:19] <gleng> shore, maybe that's just a warning that it's not writing to the system defaults or something.
[08:19] <Davey> Amaranth, add it back :)
[08:20] <Amaranth> Davey: Yesterday I did in one day what took me one month before, I'm taking a break. :P
[08:20] <Belutz> Amaranth: i have a dillema right now...
[08:20] <shore> gleng, the message is quite misleading then, because it says "saving will not be possible"
[08:20] <Davey> Amaranth, pfft
[08:20] <Belutz> Amaranth: my friends keep telling me to use FreeBSD, what a good reason to stay using ubuntu?
[08:21] <Amaranth> Belutz: It works?
[08:21] <Tomcat_> Belutz: Works out of the box, Community? :)
[08:21] <gleng> shore, hmm, who knows. Well, as long as everything's working ok, I think I'll leave it well enough alone :)
[08:21] <Amaranth> Belutz: You're more likely to find a driver for Linux than FreeBSD?
[08:21] <Amaranth> Belutz: We have the latest versions of X and GNOME as they release (and before)?
[08:22] <Amaranth> Belutz: We have this awesome community?
[08:22] <Amaranth> Belutz: Should I go on? :)
[08:22] <Belutz> Amaranth: i haven't installed FreeBSD on my laptop yet... just trying it using FreeSBIE
[08:22] <Belutz> Amaranth: please do go on
[08:22] <shore> How can i prevent eth0 from being brought up at boot and yet still have it available for pppoeconf to start?
[08:23] <Amaranth> Belutz: Things like smeg, bum, gtk-wifi, etc are all created around Ubuntu so Ubuntu users get them first?
[08:23] <Belutz> erisco: hai... :)
[08:23] <erisco> hello, i was wondering how to get a shh daemon on ubuntu
[08:23] <lasse> hey
[08:23] <shore> has anyone seen the message "Parallel port lp0 busy, will retry in 30 seconds"
[08:23] <zAo^> lo lasse
[08:23] <Amaranth> erisco: openssh-server
[08:23] <cefx> I hate the <IP_ADDRESS> kernel.
[08:24] <DekaPink> I wish I knew why fglrx doesn't let me use totem and mplayer. :3
[08:24] <Belutz> Amaranth: ic... hmm i've been googling.. i've doubt my ipw2200 will work out of the box in FreeBSD
[08:24] <highvoltage> cefx: the whole 2.6.12 range sux
[08:24] <Amaranth> Belutz: See? That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about.
[08:24] <shore> my printer doesn't work and that is the status message in the printer config
[08:24] <zAo^> DekaPink, messages?
[08:24] <Amaranth> cefx, highvoltage: The 2.6.12 kernels are the best I've had yet.
[08:24] <Amaranth> Davey: btw, like my logo?
[08:24] <gleng> erisco, 'sudo apt-get install ssh' should sort it out for you.
[08:25] <Davey> Amaranth, where?
[08:25] <cefx> Amaranth: I'm running Slackware with the <IP_ADDRESS>...and have had problems ever since moving from 2.4.
[08:25] <cefx> :/
[08:25] <Amaranth> Davey: http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg-devel/loading_everything.png
[08:25] <Davey> the menu with the tools? yeah :)
[08:25] <Belutz> Amaranth: if... and only if i'm trying to install FreeBSD on my laptop, how do i back up my ubuntu setting? just copy the whole /home/$USERS directory?
[08:25] <zAo^> I do Amaranth  :)
[08:25] <Davey> though your shadow doesn't work :)
[08:26] <Amaranth> Belutz: yeah, making a backup of /home should work
[08:26] <DekaPink> zAo^,  I switched back to the default driver, so I can't check right now... but I know that when I tried to use mplayer/gmplayer under it, it told me it couldn't load /dev/3dfx or something :3
[08:26] <Amaranth> Davey: I stole it from the tools icon. :)
[08:26] <zAo^> DekaPink, hmm. I used fglrx on Hoary with Totem; no probs
[08:26] <zAo^> lol
[08:26] <Amaranth> Davey: I just made the goofy little menu and put another icon on top of it.
[08:26] <Belutz> Amaranth: and after i installed ubuntu again, just copy the whole home dir? it will works fine?
[08:26] <Amaranth> Belutz: yeah, that should work
[08:27] <DekaPink> zAo^,  yeah, when I try to open totem with it on, it just says 'resource busy or unavailable.'
[08:27] <zAo^> dont forget the ~/.*
[08:27] <zAo^> DekaPink, what said glxinfo | grep render?
[08:27] <adilfulara> help me installing ubuntu
[08:27] <cefx> My friend feels that it's the udev in the 2.6 kernel since it's currently in active dev.  Anyways...right now, whenever I say, type things into IRC for chatting it's as if caps lock is on -- but it's not.  Also, my left click no longer behaves like left click..it right clicks when I left click.
[08:27] <Belutz> Amaranth: ic thx :) and also thx for the lovely smeg :D
[08:27] <cefx> e.g. -- a is A, 3 is #, , is <.  I do not have caps lock on, either.
[08:28] <Amaranth> cefx: You're complaining about Slackware's bad 2.6.x kernel support in #ubuntu?
[08:28] <cefx> No.
[08:28] <adilfulara> help some1
[08:28] <zAo^> lol
[08:28] <cefx> I'm complaining about the 2.6.x kernel.
[08:28] <zAo^> adilfulara, shoot
[08:28] <DekaPink> I don't recall. :3 Oh, well... I don't really have much need for it, I hardly play any games. :3
[08:28] <cefx> Wondering if anyone has any ideas. :)
[08:28] <erisco> i need a secure shell daemon
[08:28] <Amaranth> cefx: You've installed a fresh hoary install on the same machine and these things happen?
[08:28] <cefx> Nod
[08:28] <Amaranth> erisco: openssh-server
[08:28] <zAo^> DekaPink, dont you miss the 2D openGL?
[08:28] <adilfulara> installing ubuntu
[08:28] <erisco> that command did not work amaranth
[08:28] <Amaranth> cefx: Your hardware is screwy :P
[08:28] <cefx> I'm tempted to try Debian Sin.
[08:29] <cefx> sid
[08:29] <Amaranth> cefx: file a bug in bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[08:29] <adilfulara> keepng my windows
[08:29] <cefx> kk
[08:29] <Amaranth> erisco: That's a package to install.
[08:29] <cefx> Well
[08:29] <erisco> oh okay
[08:29] <cefx> I'm gonna try another install.
[08:29] <zAo^> erisco, /etc/inet.d/sshd start
[08:29] <LowBit_> anyone know how to change the reso in slax?
[08:29] <cefx> (of ubuntu)
[08:29] <DekaPink> zAo^, I... have no idea. lol
[08:29] <adilfulara> so how to do
[08:29] <Amaranth> slax?
[08:29] <sadf> does anybody know where i can manually download ubuntu packages? (e.g. xfce4.2)
[08:30] <erisco> zao, there was no such file or directory
[08:30] <lee> anybody around that uses the skype-provided skype .deb?  I can login to the website just fine, but I can't login via the skype app, just says incorrect password, is anybody having the same problem?
[08:30] <Amaranth> sadf: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[08:30] <erisco> amaranth, i already have that package installed
[08:30] <LowBit_> Amaranth: yeah its a live cd distro
[08:30] <adilfulara> amar advice
[08:30] <Amaranth> LowBit_: This is an Ubuntu help channel, not a slax help channel. :)
[08:31] <LowBit_> yeah but there is only one person in the slax channel :P
[08:31] <cefx> Amaranth has to be the most polite op in a linux channel I've seen.
[08:31] <adilfulara> have got 5.04 do i need to remove windows
[08:31] <Amaranth> LowBit_: No one here has ever used it. You should get the Ubuntu live cd.
[08:31] <adilfulara> ?
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> adilfulara,  'need' ?  no.
[08:31] <zAo^> erisco, /etc/init.d/ssh start
[08:31] <LowBit_> ok some help on ubuntu then, which of these http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download.php?lang=en should I use for ubuntu install
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> adilfulara,  you do need some unallocated free drive space however to install it.
[08:32] <gleng> It's always preferable though :)
[08:32] <LowBit_> Amaranth: I have heaps of ubuntu cd's :P I ordered them off the site
[08:32] <adilfulara> l have dr
[08:32] <Amaranth> cefx: I'm supposed to set a good example for the community. :)
[08:32] <zAo^> lol
[08:32] <erisco> test
[08:32] <cefx> Hmm.  Is the amd64 arch of Ubuntu any good?
[08:32] <adilfulara> dr i dont know ne commands
[08:32] <deprave> what's the software for making a telco system on a linux box?
[08:33] <zAo^> cefx, yes, but no Flash
[08:33] <mjr> cefx, yes
[08:33] <Amaranth> LowBit_: http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download/eciadsl-usermode_0.10-1_i386.deb might work
[08:33] <cefx> By good, I mean, is it developed enough that a newbie like me can use it, or is it merely for a veteran user who can code up any problems they run into?
[08:33] <LowBit_> thanks Amaranth
[08:33] <adilfulara> heard that installatin requirs commands
[08:33] <lee> or for the matter, the skype .tar.gz that they provide, that's doing exactly the same thing...
[08:33] <Amaranth> cefx: Well, it's not biarch so you'll be pure 64-bit.
[08:33] <cefx> lee: odd
[08:34] <lee> annoying, I need to call the US!
[08:34] <adilfulara> dr?
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> adilfulara, I  normally boot up a live cd like http://www.sysresccd.org/   rescue cd and use their 'qt_parted" program to resize an existing windows partition.  or use a 2nd hard drive.
[08:34] <cefx> Amaranth: Hmm.   :P
[08:37] <chrissturm> apokryphos, how many percent faster?
[08:37] <cefx> I'll use this laptop to watch my media. ;D
[08:37] <ankur> apokryphos, I cannot use Ctrl+Alt+F1-F6 to switch to virtual terminals
[08:37] <apokryphos> chrissturm: incomparably faster ;-)
[08:37] <apokryphos> ankur: do your F keys not have a lock on them?
[08:38] <apokryphos> TonNgoKhong: please don't spam
[08:38] <ankur> how do I check that...
[08:38] <TonNgoKhong> yes yes
[08:38] <TonNgoKhong> plz join now
[08:38] <Amaranth> Did he memoserv you too?
[08:38] <TonNgoKhong> Thanks
[08:38] <struggler> chrissturm: scm? I havent seen that one
[08:38] <apokryphos> Amaranth: yes
[08:38] <chrissturm> apokryphos, hmm, emt64 has more registers, but i dont see why it should be that much faster
[08:38] <chrissturm> struggler, http://www.jessies.org/~enh/software/scm/
[08:38] <Amaranth> TonNgoKhong: This is not the place to advertise your server.
[08:38] <apokryphos> ankur: not sure how it is for you, but I have a "Lock" button on my keyboard. Can lock up my F buttons sometimes
[08:38] <zAo^> Amaranth, dont we need more ops?
[08:39] <Amaranth> zAo^: Why? I'm here. :)
[08:39] <apokryphos> zAo^: other have the powers, but not on them
[08:39] <cefx> Are you here 24/7?
[08:39] <LowBit_zzz> owned
[08:39] <cefx> Maybe Amaranth is one of those robots.
[08:39] <ankur> apokryphos, well my function keys were working till now..just now stopped working..though I didnt make any changes.
[08:39] <apokryphos> ankur: does the problem persist if you restart your X?
[08:39] <Amaranth> cefx: Nope, but we have a lot more ops.
[08:39] <Amaranth> We usually hide though.
[08:40] <tim> apokryphos, I'm not using ubuntu 64-bit right now due to me wanting things like flash and windows codecs, do you expect those things will be out and easy to install now that they have released a 64-bit windows? (i know thats a pretty damn hard question, just curious as to what u think)
[08:40] <cefx> Oh cool.
[08:40] <chrissturm> after all this is not efnet
[08:40] <cefx> :)
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> heh - yea - theres those newer keyvbords that boot up wth the F keys in their "multimedia" keyboard state.. VERY annoying.
[08:40] <cefx> EFNet is full of jackasses.
[08:40] <apokryphos> tim: no idea how long it will take. Though you can create a chroot environment for that stuff I believe if you really need 'em
[08:40] <Amaranth> cefx: Please don't start that. :P
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> tim,  the 64bit windows stuff has very little to do with them actually making 64bit ports of the linux bits. :P
[08:40] <cefx> Oops.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> tim,  they take theyr own sweet time sadly. They could of had 64bit flash and so forth out befor.
[08:41] <cefx> Well, I'm actually an efnetter :) so I'm one of those jackasses.
[08:41] <ankur> apokryphos, yes the problem persists...and few more problems start..like services hang, alsa problems and all
[08:41] <chrissturm> cefx,  do you have a big botnet? :P
[08:41] <cefx> I want to try the 64bit build just to benchmark it.
[08:42] <apokryphos> ankur: :|
[08:42] <necrogami> Anyone here have Cisco Equipment w/ IOS Software? If so .. you should read this ... [14:11]  *dose* ftp://<IP_ADDRESS>/michael_lynn_cisco_hole.pdf
[08:42] <apokryphos> ankur: hm, sorry I wouldn't know; I'd only make guesses
[08:42] <Amaranth> necrogami: ...
[08:43] <deprave> what's the software for making a telco system on a linux box?
[08:43] <ankur> apokryphos, okay..thanks anywaya
[08:43] <ankur> apokryphos, okay..thanks anyways*
[08:43] <necrogami> Amaranth: Your loss
[08:44] <cefx> ....
[08:44] <cefx> that's pretty old news, necrogami
[08:44] <cefx> Like...last week.
[08:44] <necrogami> still getting out the word
[08:45] <cefx> i'm sure if they browsed the web at all and owned that they'd know
[08:46] <anacron> binary or source file?
[08:46] <anacron> which one works better, or doesn't work or is easier to install, someone?
[08:47] <cefx> source
[08:47] <cefx> be a man :)
[08:49] <benplaut> what the?!
[08:51] <DekaPink> Now I have no choice but to get a new one, as of course, I only had just the one shirt. :3 Now I -have- to get an Ubuntu shirt.
[08:51] <DekaPink> ... and maybe a thong while I'm at it. :P
[08:53] <basse> hehe
[08:53] <basse> isnt this supposed to be a help channel and not a t-shirt chatting channel :P
[08:54] <Harold> Morning, all!
[08:54] <levander> Where is this ubuntu artwork that I keep hearing so much about? Can I view it online?
[08:54] <levander> Want to see the december wallpaper people are talking about.
[08:55] <basse> yeah, where is it?
[08:55] <Amaranth> hehe
[08:55] <Amaranth> ubuntu-calendar-december
[08:55] <benplaut> !info ubuntu-calender
[08:55] <Amaranth> !info ubuntu-calendar-december
[08:55] <ubotu> ubuntu-calendar-december: (Ubuntu calendar artwork for December), section gnome, is optional. Version: 4.12 (hoary), Packaged size: 381 kB, Installed size: 560 kB
[08:55] <benplaut> ahhh
[08:55] <levander> Can I view it online without downloading it?
[08:55] <Amaranth> levander: No.
[08:56] <apokryphos> levander: it's on gnome-look, isn't it?
[08:56] <basse> when you view it, you download it :P
[08:56] <levander> apokryphos: no idea
[08:56] <D1> ehhh, totem doesn't output sound but everything else does. what can be wrong?
[08:56] <Amaranth> now, leave me alone so i can work on smeg :)
[08:56] <apokryphos> another reason to get a gnome/kde-look search for ubotu
[08:56] <benplaut> OK, everyone leave amaranth alone
[08:56] <benplaut> we need our Smeg :D
[08:56] <D1> Amaranth, is the official gnome-menu-editor based on smeg?
[08:57] <D1> or inspired by it
[08:57] <D1> it looks just like it.
[08:57] <benplaut> the interface is similar
[08:57] <benplaut> but it doesn't look very full-featured
[08:57] <Amaranth> D1: We both worked off the same sketch by a GNOME usability guy.
[08:57] <D1> ah
[08:57] <chrissturm> when is ejbCreate called? when i deploy the bean or when i access it?
[08:57] <chrissturm> oops, sorry
[08:57] <Harold> Yesterday I removed a ton of packages, and now my wireless connection isn't working.
[08:57] <zAo^> lol
[08:58] <levander> that's what the fuss is about, that pic is nothing
[08:58] <basse> leave Amaranth be, he's coding some nice stuff
[08:58] <Amaranth> levander: *shrug*
[08:59] <Harold> Anyone know how to perform a server install over a standard install?
[08:59] <dabaR> Amaranth: looks nice, that smeg screenshot. Is that eh milk theme for window borders?
[09:00] <Amaranth> dabaR: no, this is clearlooks-deepsky
[09:00] <dabaR> hey Harold . I dont think you can do that, remove everything.
[09:01] <dabaR> looks nice.
[09:01] <DekaPink> Huh... Where do I find that december calendar after I apt-get it? :P lol
[09:01] <Harold> dabaR, So you're saying a server install will remove everything?
[09:01] <Amaranth> DekaPink: change desktop background
[09:02] <Harold> dabaR, Morning, debaR.  (Or 'night, wherever you are.)
[09:02] <DekaPink> Amaranth, yeah... That's what I thought... but... It's not there? :3
[09:02] <D1> ok, so mpegs don't have sound. do I need to install anything for megs to have sound? wmv's work and have sound, but mpegs dont with totem-xine
[09:03] <tikka> testing
[09:03] <Goodspeed> where can i find soundcard drivers for linux?
[09:04] <Goodspeed> i just installed linux for the first time
[09:04] <highvoltage> Goodspeed: congrats!
[09:04] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone used the xfce samba-browser in Ubuntu?
[09:05] <benplaut> i'm sure someone has
[09:05] <basse_> I've used it on gentoo, I think
[09:05] <Goodspeed> how do you install libraries?
[09:05] <Goodspeed> such as libusb
[09:05] <skalpel> so i am fine.
[09:06] <benplaut> Goodspeed: why do you need them?
[09:06] <Goodspeed> for my mp3 player
[09:06] <Goodspeed> its a creative jukebox
[09:06] <phixion> how do i go about burning an mp3 cd through the linux kernel?
[09:06] <basse_> sudo apt-get install libusb-0.1-4
[09:07] <Goodspeed> wow
[09:07] <D1> I would suggest compiling your own libnjb
[09:07] <phixion> how do i go about burning an mp3 cd through the linux kernel? - anyone please help!
[09:07] <D1> the one in universe is so outdated..
[09:07] <Goodspeed> the terminal is so intimidating
[09:07] <Goodspeed> :(
[09:08] <Harold> Anyone: Where are source.list located again?
[09:08] <Harold> I always forget.
[09:08] <johny5> Anyone in here us synce?
[09:08] <D1> phixion, burning should work out of the box
[09:08] <skalpel> does soun juicer support cddb? it does not look like it does
[09:08] <D1> choose your burning app
[09:08] <johndotcom> hello ubuntu
[09:08] <Harold> What's a good way to remember things?
[09:08] <redlounge> hi. how can i find the process which blocks a file? /proc/acpi/events
[09:08] <Harold> johndotcom, Hello
[09:08] <Goodspeed> under device manager my sound card shows up but i hear no sound...
[09:08] <TheSin> anyone know the pkg name to enable open transtor on ubuntu?
[09:08] <skalpel> is there a ripper that supports cddb?
[09:08] <TheSin> err open transport that is
[09:08] <dabaR> Harold: `/etc/apt
[09:08] <johndotcom> im having problems with my wireless
[09:09] <Fanskapet> yes sure someone has :D
[09:09] <phixion> D1 - I have k3b / gnomebaker and graveman, i cant find "mp3 cd" anywhere in them, they do normal audio only it seems
[09:09] <dabaR> as for the server install, well, I mean, do you have  your data and programs/OS on separate partitions?
[09:09] <Fanskapet> well let me put it this way since noone understand me
[09:09] <basse_> Harold: "What's a good way to remember things?" Tomboy!
[09:09] <Fanskapet> :D
[09:09] <Baosen> Is there a program that do that u can Click and Install programs without using Terminal?
[09:09] <Fanskapet> "have anyone had troubles using the xfce-samba browser!?" :D
[09:09] <Harold> dabaR, I logged out for a minute, so I missed any responses you may have posted here.  Were you saying that I would be removing everything if I performed a server install?
[09:10] <dabaR> did not post, saw you logged out.
[09:10] <anacron> can you guys give some good theme's, since it looks like can decide which one to take :D
[09:10] <Fanskapet> and anyone know how to mount a USB-harddrive in xfce (automaticly when plugging it in)
[09:10] <ompaul> Baosen, synaptic - system - administration synaptic
[09:10] <TheSin> Baosen, synaptic?
[09:10] <dabaR> do you have data and OS on separate partitions on the hard disk?
[09:10] <dennis_> grip supports cddb
[09:10] <Baosen> No, click and install like windows?
[09:10] <ompaul> Baosen, that is what I pointed you to
[09:10] <Baosen> No click and install like windows?
[09:11] <TheSin> why would you want anything like windows?
[09:11] <Baosen> well, ok
[09:11] <TheSin> pkg management is mucho better
[09:11] <johndotcom> anyone know anything about getting a pcmcia card with Atheros 5212 3Com a/b/g wireless to work correctly
[09:11] <dabaR> Baosen: similar, better.
[09:11] <ompaul>  Baosen orders of magnitude better
[09:11] <Baosen> ????
[09:11] <Goodspeed> is there like a linux drivers.com or something?
[09:11] <ompaul> Baosen, use it tell us what you think
[09:11] <Harold> dabaR, No, I don't, but I don't have much data on here yet.
[09:12] <dabaR> reainstall. I think.
[09:12] <Harold> dabaR, I may finish up one project before doing this.  How do I perform a server install?  Don't want to from the CD, since I don't have a CD-ROM drive.
[09:13] <JaZy84> where can i find the source list for ppc
[09:13] <skalpel> is there a ripper that supports cddb?
[09:13] <Baosen> I'm using Windows XP now (Cause the most games support Windows :)), well i used Synaptic when i used Linux, is great and easy program
[09:13] <Harold> JanC, I'm on PPC.
[09:13] <Harold> JaZy84, Oops, I meant your name.
[09:13] <Goodspeed> how do i open a .run???
[09:14] <JaZy84> do you know where i can get list of apt sources
[09:14] <nomis_> Goodspeed, chmod +x bla.run   and then ./bla.run
[09:14] <Harold> JaZy84, One second, I'll check
[09:14] <Carneus> hi, can anyone tell me how can i save current routing table configuration as default one?
[09:14] <JaZy84> ty
[09:14] <Carneus> or where i can find configuration files for them
[09:14] <kaffeend> hey everyone
[09:15] <D1> JayZ84. www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:15] <Harold> JaZy84, How do you mean, exactly?  I just used the regular sources list to install on my PowerBook G3.
[09:15] <redlounge> i want to tar /proc/acpi/event and dont get it. any help? thx...
[09:15] <JaZy84> ty dl
[09:15] <kaffeend> Could anyone help a n00by n00b please?
[09:15] <D1> grrr, I can't get sound in my mpeg files. anyone know what to do? wmv works fine.
[09:16] <Goodspeed> how can you run an installer if there is no root in ubuntu?
[09:16] <dabaR> sudo installer
[09:16] <dabaR> Goodspeed: /msg ubotu root
[09:16] <dabaR> if your nick is registered with niuckserv
[09:16] <ompaul> kaffeend, could a person say what they wanted and then maybe just maybe an answer would be given, because right now I do not know if I can assist :)
[09:16] <johndotcom> someone that knows how to get the Atheros pcmcia wireless cards working, pm me
[09:17] <Harold> JaZy84, Here's the installation wiki for PowerPC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/PowerPC?highlight=%28powerpc%29
[09:17] <Harold> JaZy84, Let me know if that helps you.
[09:17] <kaffeend> I tried to install Ubuntu from boot up and it went to xp login as usual
[09:17] <kaffeend> sry I type real slow
[09:17] <JaZy84> su
[09:17] <ompaul> kaffeend,  not a problem
[09:18] <ompaul> kaffeend,  so is it the machine you are on at the moment?
[09:18] <kaffeend> I have made the boot disc with the .ISO image and nada
[09:18] <kaffeend> yes
[09:18] <nomis_> Goodspeed, use sudo
[09:18] <Goodspeed> what does that mean?
[09:18] <Goodspeed> its a .run
[09:18] <ompaul> kaffeend, okay so it did not boot the installer for you?
[09:18] <Goodspeed> i followed what nomis said
[09:18] <kaffeend> ompaul No
[09:18] <dabaR> prepend sudo to the command you are running to give it root proivileges
[09:19] <kaffeend> it opens in win RAR tho lol
[09:19] <dabaR> then type in your passsword when prompted
[09:19] <dabaR> wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:19] <ompaul> kaffeend, did you set your bios to get the machine to boot from CDRom ?
[09:19] <kaffeend> ompaul>> also - never used linux b4
[09:19] <kaffeend> yes I did
[09:20] <kaffeend> then I tried to do it floppy, cd, hd 0
[09:20] <Carneus> hi, can anyone tell me how can i save current routing table configuration as default one?
[09:20] <ompaul> kaffeend, so it looks like you did not burn the CD you wanted, it burnt a toaster :)
[09:20] <Carneus> or where i can find configuration files for them
[09:20] <kaffeend> looks that way
[09:20] <ompaul> kaffeend, or your machine is not configured correctly
[09:20] <kaffeend> but how could I fail?
[09:20] <Harold> Anyone know how to go from a standard install to a server install?  Without the CD?
[09:20] <kaffeend> AAAARRRGGGG
[09:21] <basse_> Harold, uninstasll everything thats not in the server isntall :P
[09:21] <kaffeend> xp is barely holding together here
[09:21] <Harold> basse_, Already tried that approach.  Seems to have screwed up my wireless connection.
[09:21] <kaffeend> lost system tray and task manager
[09:21] <basse_> Harold, oh well
[09:22] <flogiston> Is it possible s make gnome's start menu transparent?
[09:22] <basse_> Harold, why do you want a server install?
[09:22] <WinterWolf> a question...what are the recommended hardware for  ubuntu? Mhz ram???
[09:22] <basse_> Harold, use the computer as server?
[09:22] <Harold> basse_, I want more space on my computer; only have 2GB HD.
[09:22] <kaffeend> ompaul it is the AMD 64 .iso on the cd
[09:22] <Harold> basse_, I tried the other apprach, removing packages.  So far so good, except for my wireless connection.
[09:22] <kaffeend> I have the right chip ;)
[09:22] <skalpel> how do i change the way the mouse acts with windows in gnome?
[09:22] <Harold> basse_, Everyone keeps telling me to try a server install and then add the packages I need from there.
[09:23] <skalpel> the window switching behavior i mean
[09:23] <ompaul> kaffeend, well it did not try to boot
[09:23] <basse_> Harold, ok
[09:23] <ompaul> kaffeend, so it does not matter which one you tried
[09:23] <basse_> Harold, then do one
[09:23] <zAo^> how can I assign "back" to my middle mousebutton in Gnome?
[09:23] <evane|work> nick evane
[09:23] <kaffeend> no - any suggestions plz? could I format my hdd from within xp?
[09:23] <ompaul> kaffeend, what kind of a machine are you using?
[09:23] <Goodspeed> No kernel module build environment - please consult readme.
[09:24] <Goodspeed> i did sudo installer
[09:24] <basse_> Harold, or did you say something like, I dont have a cd drive
[09:24] <Goodspeed> that was in the log
[09:24] <kaffeend> where do I start? you want all the specs?
[09:24] <Harold> basse_, Yes, I don't have a CD drive.  So I'm wondering how to run a server install.
[09:24] <ompaul> kaffeend, no i want the processor type and how much ram you have for a start
[09:24] <basse_> Harold, then how did you get ubuntu in the first place?
[09:24] <kaffeend> AMD athlon 64 3000+, 1024mb pc 3200 DDR Ram,
[09:24] <Harold> basse_, Long story.
[09:25] <basse_> Harold, humm
[09:25] <Harold> basse_, Don't I just need to change the sources.list or something?
[09:25] <kaffeend> SATA HDD
[09:25] <basse_> Harold, same reps
[09:25] <ompaul> kaffeend, that should not stop the CD from working
[09:25] <kaffeend> which is problematic with windows setup
[09:25] <ompaul> kaffeend, it can be cruel with Linux
[09:26] <kaffeend> I can see that already
[09:26] <anacron> hmm
[09:26] <basse_> Harold, keep removing packages until your done then try getting wireless up and running
[09:26] <ompaul> kaffeend, but it is not the issue as the install did not boot at all
[09:26] <kaffeend> so I either burnt the wrong image or...
[09:26] <basse_> Harold, try to figure out which package you removed that screwed up wireless
[09:26] <ompaul> kaffeend, you burnt it wrong
[09:26] <Harold> basse_, When you uninstall packages, what are some good things to check after (to make sure everything is running okay).  For example, apt-get -f install
[09:27] <kaffeend> think I know what I did now
[09:27] <kaffeend> hehe
[09:27] <sono> friends... anyone knows about resources for reading about differences between Ubuntu's AMD64-K8 and AMD64-Generic kernel versions?
[09:27] <basse_> Harold, make sure not to remove something... bad
[09:27] <kaffeend> when I saved the image I was asked to open it with win rar by default
[09:27] <kaffeend> guess what I said?
[09:27] <Harold> basse_, Very funny.
[09:27] <cddesjar> does anyone know if there is a ubuntu package out there for ABC torrent client?
[09:27] <basse_> Harold, :P
[09:27] <Harold> basse_, I was extremely careful.
[09:27] <sono> I am trying to figure out which appeals better to my AMD64 laptop
[09:27] <ompaul> kaffeend, I have very limited knowledge of Windows
[09:28] <Harold> basse_, Everything appears to be in order except for my Wi-Fi.  Perhaps I'll need to reinstall madwifi.
[09:28] <anacron> cddesjar: if there would be, you could found it in their page
[09:28] <basse_> Harold, try
[09:28] <kaffeend> win RAR is a zip app... don't know why I'd have to open an .ISO with it?
[09:28] <JaZy84> anyone try breezy yet?
[09:29] <Harold> basse_, I'll do that.
[09:29] <benplaut> if you want to try it, get the live CD
[09:29] <klaym> hey ppl which is the best cd burning application for use on Ubuntu (gnome) ?
[09:29] <basse_> Harold, I'm not using wifi myself so I can really debug your system on tha tpoint
[09:29] <JaZy84> what kind of problems have people been experienceing
[09:29] <Harold> basse_, You mean you *can't*?
[09:29] <ompaul> kaffeend, if you don't get it right you should check this out and see if anyone can give you a hand http://www.linux.org.au/usergroups/
[09:29] <benplaut> mainly weird X
[09:29] <sono> ,said previously "friends... anyone knows about resources for reading about differences between Ubuntu's AMD64-K8 and AMD64-Generic kernel versions?"
[09:29] <basse_> Harold, you're so smart :P
[09:30] <klaym> Nautilus' default burning application can't recognize my normal cd-r
[09:30] <kaffeend> okay, thanks... also, there were two .ISO files and I got the direct download, rather than the torrent...
[09:30] <basse_> Harold, yeah, sorry for that bug :)
[09:30] <Harold> basse_, Okay, thanks, basse.  I appreciate your help.   Thanks ompaul
[09:32] <ompaul> klaym, I do this on the command line : 'cdrecord -pad -v dev=/dev/hdd some.iso'* your * would differ a little hdc or hdb or in very rear cases hda
[09:32] <basse_> Carneus, don't know is that was some kind of gentoo hack
[09:32] <D1> hey guys, whatever happened to the RUN menu in gnome 2.12?
[09:32] <D1> I dont see it in screenshots anymore.
[09:32] <Carneus> ok, i'll try to find something like that, thanks
[09:33] <Goodspeed> how do you even begin to install alsa?
[09:34] <zAo^> D1, questioned myself (on Gnome 2.11.90)
[09:34] <skalpel> what is the best way to install netscape in ubuntu?
[09:34] <klaym> ompaul: thanks for the advice but I prefer a GUI as I'm a noob
[09:34] <basse_> benplaut, apt-get install qt3-qtconfig
[09:34] <erisco> help! i can not connect into my mysql database
[09:34] <vader1102> zAo: I will google it for you
[09:34] <erisco> it keeps saying access denied!
[09:35] <basse_> erisco, :(
[09:35] <erisco> i know..... its annoying
[09:35] <erisco> i wacked mysql and put it back in again
[09:35] <erisco> before i could just type mysql in a terminal and i was in
[09:36] <Chaotic_Shield> afternoon all
[09:36] <dabaR> yo
[09:36] <vader1102> zAo:http://www.betanews.com/article/Outsourced_Netscape_Merges_Firefox_IE/1101831853
[09:36] <basse_> benplaut, thx, nice app :)
[09:36] <Chaotic_Shield> herm.
[09:36] <zAo^> I think we should use ALT + F2
[09:37] <Chaotic_Shield> Anyone know of any music creation programs for Linux (equivalent to Stienburg, Fruity Loops, etc)
[09:37] <Chaotic_Shield> lol
[09:37] <Chaotic_Shield> look at all the quits.
[09:37] <zAo^> Chaotic_Shield, http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Multimedia/Sound_Synthesis/index.shtml ?
[09:38] <basse_> hehe
[09:38] <joha> H iall
[09:38] <zAo^> lo
[09:38] <benplaut> basse_: i was so annoyed with the huge and bold fonts in Skype, and then i found this... :)
[09:38] <basse_> benplaut, thx for spreading the word :)
[09:39] <Chaotic_Shield> bah.
[09:39] <joha> Does somebody know how port forwarding through an ssh tunnel works? I always get "bind: Cannot assign requested address" and "channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: " once I'm connected :-/
[09:39] <Chaotic_Shield> Thanks for the link. But I still wish I could use Fruity Loops on Linux. Doesn't work with wine :'(
[09:39] <robtotheb> how do u play a .bin SVCD in ubuntu?
[09:39] <Chaotic_Shield> robtotheb, tried DaemonTools?
[09:39] <MartenH> How do you set up a webcam?
[09:39] <zAo^> robtotheb, just hit: mplayer FILE.bin
[09:40] <robtotheb> dont have mplayer
[09:40] <robtotheb> totem cant do it?
[09:40] <Chaotic_Shield> sudo apt-get install mplayer
[09:40] <robtotheb> ok
[09:40] <robtotheb> thanks
[09:40] <sun_night> yparxei kanenasellhnas edo mesa?
[09:40] <basse_> mplayer rocks
[09:40] <sun_night> yparxei kanenas ellhnas edo mesa?
[09:40] <dabaR> are you chanting like that grandpa in Jqackie Chan cartoom?
[09:41] <Chaotic_Shield> does mplayer do mp3's?
[09:42] <MartenH> How do you set up a webcam in ubuntu?
[09:42] <phixion> depends, is it for cybering or business meetings?
[09:42] <phixion> :E
[09:42] <Chaotic_Shield> rofl
[09:42] <phixion> i kid, i kid!  Best freakin rap song ever.
[09:43] <MartenH> not "meeting" features needed so I don't think I
[09:43] <Chaotic_Shield> SO funny.
[09:43] <MartenH> will need gnomemeeting
[09:44] <Chaotic_Shield> heh
[09:44] <Chaotic_Shield> does the ubuntu-desktop do anything?
[09:44] <MartenH> I found xawtv, but can't get it to work
[09:44] <mjr> Chaotic_Shield, it pulls in other packages, nothing else
[09:44] <Chaotic_Shield> pft.
[09:44] <Chaotic_Shield> 2lose then.
[09:45] <traaf> hi there
[09:45] <saintFrance> hey guys how do i change the window color and stuff.. its all brown
[09:45] <traaf> qqun parle francais?
[09:45] <Chaotic_Shield> traaf, je parle un peu de francais.
[09:45] <traaf> ok
[09:46] <benplaut> traaf:  #ubuntu-fr
[09:46] <benplaut> i think
[09:46] <Chaotic_Shield> :)
[09:46] <traaf> tu connais bien ubuntu?
[09:46] <Chaotic_Shield> didn't know there was a french room.
[09:46] <Chaotic_Shield> oui
[09:46] <saintFrance> !theme
[09:46] <ubotu> I heard theme is http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/
[09:46] <vader1102> System-->prefferances--->Desktop Background
[09:46] <benplaut> yup
[09:46] <snow> hi guys, do you have an advice for a good linux karaoke software
[09:47] <Chaotic_Shield> snow, Google perchance?
[09:47] <Goodspeed> i need some help installing the ati linux drivers
[09:47] <snow> note really successufl
[09:47] <benplaut> !karaoke
[09:47] <ubotu> benplaut: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:47] <Seveas> Goodspeed: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:47] <benplaut> thought not...
[09:47] <Goodspeed> which version of xfree do i need?
[09:47] <Chaotic_Shield> tried looking searching the package list in Synaptic?
[09:47] <Seveas> Goodspeed, none
[09:47] <Seveas> Ubuntu comes with X.org
[09:47] <Razor-X> Goodspeed: we don't use XFree
[09:47] <benplaut> xorg
[09:47] <Razor-X> Ubuntu uses X.Org
[09:47] <michael__> where is modprobe.conf located
[09:47] <Seveas> and the drivers provided by ati
[09:48] <Seveas> michael__, modprobe.conf is an obsolete file and should not be used
[09:48] <Goodspeed> how do i remove the ati control panel
[09:48] <Goodspeed> that i partially installed?
[09:48] <michael__> i need to apply it to a wireless usb device
[09:49] <skalpel> can someone help me with installing the realplayer package in ubuntu? the debconf prog wants to know where real player has been downloaded to and i do not know
[09:49] <Chaotic_Shield> skalpel, have you tried doing 'sudo locate realplayer' in a terminal and seeing what comes up?
[09:49] <NixerX> How can I remove evolution with out removing the ubuntu desktop as well.
[09:49] <dabaR> skalpel: we can not know neither. Reinstall it.
[09:49] <dabaR> I mean, redownload it, and know this time where you downloaded it.
[09:49] <skalpel> dabar: i am reinstalling it.
[09:49] <Seveas> NixerX, you can't :)
[09:50] <DekaPink> Anyone know anything about using tibia in ubuntu? Hehe.
[09:50] <NixerX> f**k
[09:50] <Chaotic_Shield> NixerX, the ubuntu-desktop package does nothing but install the default packages that come with Ubuntu, it is safe to remove.
[09:50] <michael__> where is modprobe.conf
[09:50] <dabaR> NixerX: just remove both, it is fine.
[09:50] <Seveas> and the ubuntu-desktop package is not 'The Ubuntu desktop'
[09:50] <Zeroblitzt> Hello all, I have sound card issues in Ubuntu... I'm getting no sound (I have a soundblaster card), and when I try playing songs and videos they play 3-4x as fast as they should be
[09:50] <pkern> Is hoary's universe just as frozen as main when it's released?
[09:50] <Goodspeed> anyone?
[09:50] <Chaotic_Shield> It does NOT remove packages if you reamove it.
[09:50] <Chaotic_Shield> remove*
[09:50] <snow> commom guys, karaoke software?
[09:50] <skalpel> chatoc_shield: /usr/bin/realplayer
[09:50] <Seveas> pkern, yes
[09:50] <skalpel> chaotic_shield: that is it, no?
[09:50] <pkern> Seveas: Thanks.
[09:50] <Chaotic_Shield> yes that's it skalpel
[09:50] <NixerX> thanks
[09:50] <NixerX> Im gonna do it.
[09:50] <vader1102> michael__ I am looking
[09:50] <Goodspeed> |  how do i make that character?
[09:51] <NixerX> Evolution wats 100mb of VM and I dont even use it!
[09:51] <Chaotic_Shield> Shift + \
[09:51] <Chaotic_Shield> |
[09:51] <skalpel> chaotic_shield: i got this error: The file /usr/bin/realplayer/rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm does not exist, or it is corrupt. You may have downloaded the wrong file, or put it in the wrong location. Please try again.
[09:51] <Chaotic_Shield> anything else come up in the locate skalpel ?
[09:51] <occy> hmm, what package is chkrootkit in?
[09:51] <skalpel> chaotic_shield: some, but not the file i am looking for.
[09:52] <Chaotic_Shield> hmm...
[09:52] <Chaotic_Shield> what are you trying to install?
[09:52] <skalpel> realplayer, through synaptic
[09:52] <pkern> And will upgrading to Breezy as in unstable kill my box or are most of the transitions done?
[09:52] <Chaotic_Shield> O_O
[09:52] <Chaotic_Shield> erm?
[09:52] <Seveas> pkern, it will kill it :)
[09:52] <Razor-X> pkern: it can kill your box software wise, yes
[09:52] <Chaotic_Shield> realplayer doesn't require realplayer to install O_O
[09:52] <pkern> Ok |:
[09:53] <pkern> Who tests Breezy then before release?
[09:53] <benplaut> developers
[09:53] <Seveas> all the developers
[09:53] <occy> and people with boxes doing nothing.
[09:53] <skalpel> chaotic_shield: this debconf program wants to configure realplayer and asks me where it was downloaded to, and i do not know.
[09:53] <Seveas> and as soon as it becomes a bit stable, a lot of others too :)
[09:53] <benplaut> and crazy people :P
[09:53] <benplaut> yeha
[09:53] <Chaotic_Shield> herm.
[09:53] <Mobius> hello everyone =)
[09:53] <occy> and crazy people.
[09:53] <pkern> Seveas: Yes, but when's this point reached?
[09:53] <occy> heh
[09:53] <benplaut> i'll test once there's a preview
[09:53] <Chaotic_Shield> well it's gay then :-P
[09:53] <skalpel> chaotic_shield: i am having alot of problems with realplayer and firefox and i am trying to fix it
[09:53] <skalpel> well that does not help me
[09:53] <benplaut> a few weeks before release?
[09:53] <Chaotic_Shield> herm.
[09:54] <pkern> Seveas: I mean... the released is scheduled for October, isn't it?
[09:54] <kraftwerk> erm.. hello? I need some help. I can't automount a disk while booting, after a "mount -a" the drive shows up again. But I have to do it every time :/ ?
[09:54] <Chaotic_Shield> Just don't use realplayer, honestly.
[09:54] <skalpel> that does not help me either
[09:54] <vader1102> michael__: I have no clue buddy
[09:54] <NixerX> Thanks guys! Got any tips on how I can yse all my ram before going to swap?
[09:54] <skalpel> i want to watch this music video.
[09:54] <NixerX> *use*
[09:54] <Chaotic_Shield> hrm.
[09:54] <skalpel> does anyone know of an irc channel that gives realplayer support?
[09:54] <michael__> the device is found when i do lsusb and the driver is found when i do lsmod
[09:54] <Mobius> I recently flashed my asus notebook's BIOS ( per reply in http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=348358 ) and now when I get to GDM, there is no display, only sound. I can switch to another console, but no gdm or gnome
[09:54] <benplaut> pkern: yup
[09:55] <Chaotic_Shield> skalpel, dunno how to fix it then. Sorry
[09:55] <Chaotic_Shield> I'd still recommend using wine + winamp.
[09:55] <benplaut> not just scheduled... it will come out in october
[09:55] <Chaotic_Shield> or wine + windows realplayer.
[09:55] <skalpel> chaotic_shield: thank you then
[09:55] <Zeroblitzt> Can anyone help with my sound problems?
[09:55] <Razor-X> Mobius: try to reconfigure X
[09:55] <pkern> Will it contain GNOME 2.12 anyway?
[09:55] <skalpel> chaotic_shield: is wine easy to use, and will it work from a web browser?
[09:55] <Chaotic_Shield> erm.
[09:55] <speel> why use realplayer if you can use mplayer? =?
[09:56] <Chaotic_Shield> dunno about the second question. But wine is extremely easy to use
[09:56] <benplaut> mobius:  sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:56] <Mobius> Razor-X, dpkg-config xorg-xserver or w\e it is?
[09:56] <Chaotic_Shield> open a terminal, wine <path to exe>
[09:56] <saintFrance> where can i go to make my desktop look pretty?
[09:56] <Razor-X> Mobius: yeah
[09:56] <Mobius> I tried that
[09:56] <Mobius> Went through it with no luck
[09:56] <Mobius> =/
[09:56] <speel> saintFrance, gnome-look.org or .com i forgot
[09:56] <NixerX> saintFrance, art.gnome.org
[09:56] <Mobius> gnome-look.org
[09:56] <skalpel> chaotic_shield: yeah i am hoping to view these movies through a web browser.
[09:56] <Chaotic_Shield> erm?
[09:56] <benplaut> Mobius: does the LiveCD work?
[09:56] <Chaotic_Shield> WHY?
[09:56] <Chaotic_Shield> Why not view them through real?
[09:56] <Mobius> I can't seem to complete an Ubuntu live CD, but Slax worked
[09:56] <Chaotic_Shield> Real has a webbrowser in it.
[09:57] <benplaut> hmm
[09:57] <speel> =|
[09:57] <Mobius> benplaut - can you help me figure out which drivers I should select for my ASUS Z33a?
[09:57] <erisco> what is the apt-get for mysql?
[09:57] <benplaut> not really...
[09:57] <Razor-X> Chaotic_Shield: real player?
[09:57] <Chaotic_Shield> erisco, just use synaptic
[09:57] <Razor-X> are you mad?!
[09:57] <NixerX> erisco, try apt-cache search mysql*
[09:57] <erisco> just bno i want the apt-get
[09:57] <saintFrance> i mean ppl have crazy modifications on their desktop
[09:57] <athena> hello
[09:57] <skalpel> chaotic_shield: can you tell me how to start realplayer?
[09:57] <Chaotic_Shield> skalpel,
[09:57] <erisco> i just want the apt-get for mysql
[09:57] <Chaotic_Shield> wine <path 2 real>
[09:57] <benplaut> might just have to wait til breezy, to tell you the truth
[09:58] <Razor-X> Chaotic_Shield: you're converting people to real player?
[09:58] <Chaotic_Shield> like /home/ppl/Desktop/real/real.exe or something.
[09:58] <pola>  /server <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:58] <Razor-X> are you mad?!
[09:58] <Mobius> benplaut, it worked until I recently flashed
[09:58] <Chaotic_Shield> Razor-X, yes.
[09:58] <benplaut> i dunno...
[09:58] <skalpel> chatoic_shield: oh, i meant the linux version
[09:58] <Razor-X> Real is the worst proprietary format in the history of anything!
[09:58] <Cin_> hey... isn't windowmaker available for ubuntu consumption :O ?
[09:58] <athena> i'm mounting a NTFS part using the guide, but it is only read-only. i cant find the switch to make it read and write. what are they?
[09:58] <skalpel> razor-x: i do not really liek it either
[09:58] <Razor-X> it takes up globs of RAM
[09:58] <NixerX> Razor-X, besides wm*
[09:58] <skalpel> i dunno why it is hanging around
[09:58] <speel> mplayer = the best xmms = the greatest
[09:58] <erisco> okay the search came back with way too many results
[09:58] <erisco> there is sudo apt-get install maysql-server
[09:59] <NixerX> Cin_ Yes it is
[09:59] <Razor-X> not only that, but it's a bitch to encode to real formats
[09:59] <erisco> but i can't get into it after i install it
[09:59] <erisco> i had mysql before where i never had that problem
[09:59] <Chaotic_Shield> Until some other program reads real format, realplayer's sticking around.
[09:59] <athena> this is the line i added to ftab: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[09:59] <NixerX> erisco, is it started?
[09:59] <Cin_> NizerX: do i have to manually install it and such like?
[09:59] <erisco> is what started?
[10:00] <Chaotic_Shield> omg
[10:00] <NixerX> Cin_ nah. you should be able to apt it
[10:00] <Random_Sindrom> athena: linux can't write ntfs
[10:00] <Chaotic_Shield> NP: [ Milo - Fucking Ace ]
[10:00] <NixerX> erisco, mysql.
[10:00] <Chaotic_Shield> I LOVE YOU MILO! I WANT YOUR KIDDIES!
[10:00] <Cin_> it's not on my apt-get cache, ahhh, maybe it's my list
[10:00] <athena> really? wow. bummer.
[10:00] <erisco> it isn't currently installed
[10:00] <Cin_> is there a list on the ubuntu web site that's up to date?
[10:00] <erisco> i removed it again because i couldn't get into it
[10:00] <Chaotic_Shield> Cin, erm.
[10:00] <Chaotic_Shield> sudo apt-get update.
[10:00] <mpmc> configure: error: Cannot find GTK: Is gtk-config in path?
[10:00] <NixerX> athena, Yes you can write to NTFS....Its stupid but you can
[10:00] <Cin_> oki
[10:01] <mpmc> how do i install gtk?
[10:01] <athena> ??
[10:01] <Mobius> benplaut, 915GM is the graphics chip .. any ideas on where I can find which driver to select?
[10:01] <Chaotic_Shield> would be ownage.
[10:01] <erisco> hence i am looking for the apt-get
[10:01] <athena> so which is it? :)
[10:01] <Seveas> mpmc, you need lingtk-dev
[10:01] <Seveas> libgtk-dev
[10:01] <Razor-X> mpmc: if you're using Gnome then gtk is installed
[10:01] <Razor-X> you need the gtk dev package
[10:01] <topyli> mpmc: you probably have gtk, you need the development packages
[10:01] <Chaotic_Shield> erisco, apt-get update.
[10:01] <Seveas> mpmc, what are you trying to install?
[10:01] <erisco> i am looking for an apt-get for mysql
[10:01] <erisco> not update
[10:02] <Seveas> apt-get install mysql-server
[10:02] <concept10> athena, write support for ntfs in linux is questionable.  If you would like to share files between windows and linux, use FAT32
[10:02] <erisco> seveas? yay your back
[10:02] <topyli> erisco: huh? mysql is in ubuntu allright
[10:02] <athena> questionable as in unreliable?
[10:02] <Chaotic_Shield> yeah
[10:02] <Chaotic_Shield> I know
[10:02] <Chaotic_Shield> mysql comes with Ubuntu.
[10:02] <erisco> okay let me say this again
[10:02] <Chaotic_Shield> it does.
[10:02] <Chaotic_Shield> Shutup.
[10:02] <Seveas> athena, unreliable: sometimes, legal: questionable
[10:02] <Chaotic_Shield> Don't say anything.
[10:02] <concept10> athena, both.. write support may corrupt your NTFS filesystem
[10:02] <Mobius> anyone else have an Intel 915GM graphics chip?
[10:03] <Chaotic_Shield> It comes with it.
[10:03] <Seveas> Chaotic_Shield, watch your language...
[10:03] <erisco> i had mysql, and i could type 'mysql' i a terminal and it would bring me to mysql no problem
[10:03] <Chaotic_Shield> Use synpatic.
[10:03] <athena> hehe
[10:03] <erisco> well then i had server issues and i wacked it all
[10:03] <Razor-X> Chaotic_Shield: or aptitude?
[10:03] <erisco> i go to install it again, and when i do i can't get into it
[10:03] <Chaotic_Shield> or aptitude, fine
[10:03] <NixerX> athena, like I said its possible but stupid.
[10:03] <concept10> athena, so use FAT32
[10:03] <Chaotic_Shield> Whatever tickles your taste buds.
[10:03] <erisco> it keeps denying my access
[10:03] <Chaotic_Shield> SUDO MYSQL.
[10:03] <Random_Sindrom> so...?
[10:03] <erisco> so
[10:03] <athena> thnx
[10:03] <erisco> i have apache2, php4, but am lacking working mysql
[10:03] <topyli> erisco: you have set a mysql root password which it remembers and you don't?
[10:04] <Seveas> erisco, then check out you mysql configuration. By defaul (if you didn't change a lot) you can login with root as username
[10:04] <Seveas> and no password
[10:04] <erisco> seveas, i know, but it wouldn't let me
[10:04] <Chaotic_Shield> erm...
[10:04] <Chaotic_Shield> you can't login with root via login screen.
[10:04] <Seveas> erisco, then you changed something :)
[10:04] <erisco> it said access denied using password: YES
[10:04] <Chaotic_Shield> wow.
[10:04] <erisco> no i just installed it
[10:04] <Chaotic_Shield> nice.
[10:04] <Seveas> Chaotic_Shield, we are talking about logging into mysql
[10:04] <erisco> okay okay
[10:04] <Chaotic_Shield> ah.
[10:04] <Seveas> erisco, then don't use a password :)
[10:04] <erisco> i will do 'sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[10:04] <Chaotic_Shield> Then just reset your mysql config.
[10:04] <topyli> Chaotic_Shield: mysql root is different
[10:05] <Chaotic_Shield> No it's not :-P
[10:05] <Seveas> Chaotic_Shield, it is...
[10:05] <Chaotic_Shield> plz2recognize sarcasm.
[10:05] <topyli> sigh away
[10:05] <Seveas> Chaotic_Shield: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[10:05] <Razor-X> aptitude is awesome ;)
[10:05] <erisco> see my server problem seveas, was that apache came with ubuntu
[10:05] <erisco> i installed apache2
[10:05] <Seveas> Razor-X, true :)
[10:05] <Chaotic_Shield> yes it did.
[10:05] <erisco> but since apache was already running, i am guess it overrode apache2
[10:06] <speel> Seveas, are you part of the ubuntu team? or do you jsut run the chan
[10:06] <erisco> so i was actually using apache and not apache2
[10:06] <speel> just*
[10:06] <erisco> so i got rid of both servers
[10:06] <dabaR> erisco: ubuntu install does not have apache
[10:06] <Seveas> erisco, hmm... I would think apache2 would kill off apache upon install
[10:06] <dabaR> sudo aptitude search apache
[10:06] <Seveas> lemme check
[10:06] <erisco> well if ubuntu didn't come with apache i must have tried to install it
[10:06] <erisco> seveas, honestly it didn't
[10:06] <erisco> i had two servers colliding at port 80 =p
[10:06] <Seveas> hehe
[10:07] <Chaotic_Shield> when Synpatic says "NOT AUTHENTICATED" does that mean those packages are coming from a non official repository?
[10:07] <Seveas> erisco, then remove 'apache' again
[10:07] <erisco> okay i did sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[10:07] <Chaotic_Shield> such as universe?
[10:07] <saintFrance> how do i install gdesklets?
[10:07] <dabaR> then, the version that has i on the left, use sudo aptitude remove apache or sudo aptitude remove apache2 depending on which one had an i beside it.
[10:07] <speel> yep
[10:07] <erisco> seveas, apache is history man
[10:07] <Seveas> Chaotic_Shield, universe is official
[10:07] <erisco> that is already gone
[10:07] <mpmc> whats the get multi p2p client?
[10:07] <Chaotic_Shield> =\
[10:07] <mpmc> best*
[10:07] <erisco> i have apache2 installed and working
[10:07] <dabaR> then sudo aptitude install apache2
[10:07] <Chaotic_Shield> don't think so....
[10:07] <speel> mpmc, gtk-gnutella
[10:07] <erisco> viewable by the world
[10:07] <Seveas> Chaotic_Shield, look at the ubuntu website
[10:07] <dabaR> mpmc: I use gtk-gnutella, if you liked kazaa, this one is for you, I thimnk.
[10:07] <speel> mpmc, or lime wire
[10:07] <Seveas> ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[10:08] <mpmc> speel: multinetwork
[10:08] <topyli> Chaotic_Shield: it means you don't have the signatures that those packages were signed with
[10:08] <erisco> again!! i can't get into mysql
[10:08] <Chaotic_Shield> Seveas, then why's it disabled by default?
[10:08] <Belutz> why i could get a full speed download in linux than in windows?
[10:08] <erisco> i put in 'mysql -u root -p'
[10:08] <speel> mpmc, ah sorry dident see that
[10:08] <erisco> then it comes up with 'password:'
[10:08] <erisco> and i leave it blank
[10:08] <Seveas> Chaotic_Shield, read that page....
[10:08] <Seveas> erisco: mysql -u root -d test
[10:08] <strass> hi all
[10:08] <erisco> and then it comes up with ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[10:08] <eth42> how do I play Real Video 4.0 codecs in Totem / Xine?
[10:08] <saintFrance> how do i install gdesklets? can anyone help me?
[10:08] <dabaR> mpmc: wtf multinetwork?
[10:08] <mpmc> So whats a good multi network P2P client?
[10:09] <Silentsol> tell me in 30 words or less why UBUNTU is better than MINISLACK... GO
[10:09] <Seveas> erisco, if you did not install mysql-server than this is normal :)
[10:09] <Chaotic_Shield> It rocks my socks.
[10:09] <erisco> mysql: unknown option '-d'
[10:09] <skalpel> my ox rocks socks
[10:09] <erisco> seveas, i just did install it
[10:09] <Cin_> cin@crasher:~$ sudo apt-get install windowmaker  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done E: Couldn't find package windowmaker
[10:09] <Cin_> :(
[10:09] <skalpel> she does not wear shoes however
[10:09] <topyli> eth42: i'd play them with real player instead
[10:09] <erisco> i ran 'sudo apt-get install mysql server
[10:09] <Seveas> erisco, mysql-server
[10:09] <strass> is there some breezy users here who manage to get a correct keyboard management (with non us layout)?
[10:09] <Seveas> mot mysql server
[10:09] <Seveas> not*
[10:09] <Chaotic_Shield> Silentsol, it's because Ubuntu is nice and easy to install and use. And it comes with Gnome.
[10:09] <skalpel> reaplayer will not work for me for some reason
[10:09] <vader1102> Cin_: have you ;ooked in synaptci?
[10:10] <erisco> yes, yes that is what i did
[10:10] <Cin_> vader: no, what's that? :O
[10:10] <dabaR> mpmc: what is multinetwork?
[10:10] <eth42> topyli, I'd like to use one player for all media types...
[10:10] <Chaotic_Shield> dabaR, aka, Gnutella, eMule, etc.
[10:10] <IrIT> Hi
[10:10] <eth42> topyli: and that's Totem... :-)
[10:10] <_SWAT_> I just installed Ubuntu on a pc of a friend of mine (he's sitting next to me) and Ubuntu installed OK. It booted OK, but now it's broken. When we log in, Ubuntu/Gnome starts to load, but it loads nothing at all! It's just hanging. Help!
[10:10] <topyli> eth42: i know, i'd like to do the same
[10:11] <vader1102> Cin_: go to system---admin---then synaptic and there it shoulf be if it is in ubuntu
[10:11] <Seveas> _SWAT_, remove .Xauthority and .ICEauthority from the users homedir
[10:11] <Cin_> oki
[10:11] <Belutz> erisco: what happened if you just typed mysql and press enter ?
[10:11] <dabaR> mpmc: if you agree with chaotic's definition, then, yes, gtk-gnutella works, I think.
[10:11] <Cin_> ahh got it
[10:11] <speel> <3 gtk-gnutella
[10:11] <vader1102> k
[10:11] <gangalino> anyone running Qemu?
[10:11] <vader1102> woohooo I am learning lol
[10:11] <IrIT> i have just used sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales and selected ISO-8859-15 as my system default. Do i have to reboot in order for it to take effect?
[10:11] <_SWAT_> Seveas, this is just the FIRST login attempt we did. So we can't even log in the normal way. Could we try using the console?
[10:12] <Cin_> vader: i'll look into this app
[10:12] <dabaR> speel: what does that symbol mean, Ive been wanting to learn that.
[10:12] <Sonderblade> why does sudo ls --version work but not gksudo ls --version?
[10:12] <Seveas> IrIT, bad idea, better use UTF-8
[10:12] <speel> dabaR, its a heart
[10:12] <Seveas> _SWAT_, yes
[10:12] <dabaR> oh, ok.
[10:12] <speel> :P
[10:12] <dabaR> It looks like ballz to me.
[10:12] <speel> lol
[10:12] <IrIT> yeah, but right now i'll use ISO-8859-15
[10:12] <dabaR> serious, tho, depends on the font, I guess.
[10:12] <Razor-X> Sonderblade: because gksudo is used for applications that call gtk
[10:12] <IrIT> do i have to reboot
[10:12] <speel> >(___)< emm candy
[10:12] <Seveas> IrIT, you will need to logout and log back in
[10:13] <IrIT> ok
[10:13] <dabaR> does gksudo ls work at all?
[10:13] <Random_Sindrom> Cin...I found a wmaker in my repositories...check it out
[10:13] <Cin_> oki
[10:13] <Sonderblade> Razor-X, gksudo does something with --long-options that sudo doesn't
[10:13] <Random_Sindrom> write it so:  wmaker
[10:13] <speel> hey has any one ever tryed pc-bsd?
[10:14] <Razor-X> Sonderblade: wha?
[10:14] <topyli> skalpel: if real player hangs, it's probably because the sound server is blocking your sound and real player doesn't know how to use it
[10:14] <vader1102> speel: not me
[10:14] <speel> vader1102, you should try it .. it introduces a noob to bsd
[10:15] <skalpel> topyli: why would my sound server be blocking my sound? i do not have any other players open
[10:15] <vader1102> speel: when O get another pc to try it on
[10:15] <vader1102> I^^
[10:15] <Razor-X> BSD smeeessdee
[10:15] <speel> good ;)
[10:15] <_SWAT_> Seveas, it didn't work. We can log in using the console but not the GUI. When we log in (GUI) it just hangs and it's dead
[10:15] <Razor-X> s/smeeessdee/shmeeessdee/
[10:15] <topyli> skalpel: it uses your sound card exclusively and every application has to be a client for it if they want to make a sound
[10:15] <Razor-X> that system is to overrated
[10:15] <speel> lol
[10:15] <speel> what is?
[10:15] <Razor-X> I hate BSD so much, I don't use ps aux ;)
[10:15] <topyli> skalpel: it can be fixed though
[10:16] <topyli> hold on
[10:16] <speel> =| bsd = *
[10:16] <Seveas> _SWAT_, did you remove the files I mentioned while you were in the console?
[10:16] <skalpel> topyli: great! xcan you tell me how?
[10:16] <_SWAT_> Seveas, yes we did
[10:16] <Razor-X> ps aux, bah
[10:16] <Seveas> _SWAT_, then I don't know anything else right now...
[10:17] <speel> ports is the greatest thing that has ever came to existance lol
[10:17] <loorni> How do i run a program in ubuntu? (irssi)
[10:17] <speel> loorni, open a console and just type irssi
[10:17] <Razor-X> portage is just as good as ports
[10:17] <Belutz> speel: i only tried freeSBIE
[10:17] <Razor-X> loorni: go into a Terminal, and type in ``irssi &''
[10:18] <speel> Belutz, ah i heard about it i never tryed it
[10:18] <Random_Sindrom> Some have try SNES9x?
[10:18] <Random_Sindrom> SOMEONE?
[10:18] <Razor-X> yeah
[10:18] <Razor-X> Random_Sindrom: YES
[10:18] <Razor-X> no caps, please
[10:19] <Razor-X> you waited probably a whole second
[10:19] <Random_Sindrom> sorry
[10:19] <Random_Sindrom> how do I run it?
[10:19] <Davey> Razor-X, he was fixing his typo ;)
[10:19] <topyli> skalpel: i can't find the web page right now. please join #flood and i'll paste your my esd.conf (which works)
[10:19] <Razor-X> Davey: haha, sorry
[10:19] <Cin> a mate edited my repisotory list when i first installed, can
[10:19] <Cin>              someone with windowmaker give me their repository list, please?
[10:19] <Razor-X> too many people who do that
[10:20] <Razor-X> Random_Sindrom: what's the problem?
[10:20] <Razor-X> ahhh, I see
[10:20] <skalpel> topyli: ok
[10:20] <Razor-X> Random_Sindrom: go to the directory you extracted the archive to
[10:20] <Seveas> cin: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:20] <Belutz> Razor-X: what cd/dvd burner soft do u use?
[10:20] <Cin> Seveas: thanks
[10:20] <Razor-X> Belutz: cdrecord/K3b
[10:20] <Davey> Razor-X, I use GnomeBaker integrated into Nautilus
[10:21] <Belutz> Razor-X: cdrecord is CLI based ?
[10:21] <Razor-X> Belutz: yeah
[10:21] <Razor-X> if I feel like leaving the CLI, I use K3b
[10:21] <Razor-X> i'm installing BASHBurn now ;)
[10:21] <vader1102> that's all I have used in Linix for cd burning is K3b
[10:22] <Razor-X> the CLI is an acquired taste nowadays, I guess
[10:22] <Razor-X> vader1102: Linux, not to be confused with Minix ;)
[10:22] <saintFrance> can anyone help me install gDesktlets? i have no clue!!
[10:22] <athena> what should i put in the create launcher to make a desktop shortcut to a folder?
[10:22] <vader1102> Razor-X: I use it with my suse 9.2 system
[10:22] <athena> it asks me if i want to run the link... i dont get it
[10:22] <topyli> skalpel: you got the info?
[10:22] <Razor-X> vader1102: well, you mispelled it ;)
[10:22] <vader1102> lol
[10:23] <vader1102> woops. there goes my fingers again
[10:23] <speel> hey saintFrance , check http://ubuntuguide.org/#gdesklets
[10:23] <sun_> hi im not sure why but now whenever i sudo i get an error saying gethostbyname() unable to resolve hostname.  anyone know what to do ?
[10:23] <jvh> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu/Kubuntu on my Ferrari laptop - i just get a blank screen. Someone have any experience with that ?
[10:23] <Razor-X> gah, where's libwvstreams4.0-vorbis
[10:23] <yonil> Hi, i had to format my laptop and reinstall everything and now i have a small problem. on the last installation when i entered a game and chose to run it in fullscreen, it actually captured the whole screen. now its the same size, only with a black background surrounding it. any ideas how can i fix this ?
[10:23] <skalpel> topyli: yes thank you. are you sure i have to reboot though? is there not any other way, like recycling my gnome-oanel or something?
[10:23] <Razor-X> !info libwvstreams4.0-vorbis
[10:23] <Belutz> hmmm k3b requires kdebase... hmmm
[10:24] <athena> anyone?
[10:24] <Razor-X> gah, BASHBurn won't work then ;)
[10:24] <speel> skalpel, you should never have to reboot unless you changed somthing with the kernel
[10:24] <Razor-X> athena: in Linux, there's no real thing known as a ``shortcut''
[10:24] <Frafra> hi all
[10:24] <Razor-X> there are static links, but I don't think you can static link a file to a directory
[10:24] <Frafra> how to convert a wav into a mp3 file using shell?
[10:24] <athena> Razor-X, i mean on the desktop to make a link to ntfs mount...
[10:24] <Razor-X> (I don't think you can
[10:24] <Razor-X> )
[10:24] <topyli> skalpel: dunno. after i got the file edited, i tried logging out, restarting alsa and all sorts of shit. next day (after shutting down the machine for the night) it worked
[10:24] <skalpel> speel: i did not, it was simply a config file. maybe i should just log out of windows and back in?
[10:25] <Razor-X> athena: put the command in the desktop link?
[10:25] <speel> skalpel, what did you config?
[10:25] <skalpel> i have been told never to reboot many times though
[10:25] <skalpel> speel: esd.conf
[10:25] <shore> Sound seems broken: playing a sound in gnome-sound-rec says "Could not open resource for writing". I am already a member of group "audio" and /dev/dsp has rw for group audio
[10:25] <Razor-X> you're not really supposed to restart ;)
[10:25] <athena> command: /media/C ---> dosent work
[10:25] <skalpel> maybe i should just restart esd?
[10:25] <Razor-X> (not sure why people restart)
[10:25] <Razor-X> the computer, rather
[10:25] <jvh> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu on my Acer ferrari 4000 laptop. Could some please help ?
[10:25] <Razor-X> athena: don't type in the mount point
[10:25] <athena> ?
[10:25] <Razor-X> wait, you want to display your NTFS mount point?
[10:25] <topyli> skalpel: i'm sure you don't have to reboot. i just don't know which services to restart :(
[10:25] <athena> so what should i put in the command?
[10:26] <skalpel> topyli: probably esd
[10:26] <speel> hmm never even heard of esd.conf but yea you should jsut resart the program or what ever it is
[10:26] <Razor-X> Razor-X: think about it, what program are you calling if you type in a directory straight in
[10:26] <f_newton> update from f_newton... almost a 10 hr installation and no major problems other them setting 24bit colors.  Seems ok and being debian  based it probably will remain ok
[10:26] <shore> does sound generally work in Ubuntu?
[10:26] <topyli> skalpel: nope, not enough (in this house anyway)
[10:26] <skalpel> if i kill esd will it restart on it's own?
[10:26] <vader1102> jvh: did you see a place in the first screen to set resolution?
[10:26] <athena> yes, i want a shortcut on the desktop to this shared folder
[10:26] <Razor-X> errr
[10:26] <bimberi> Frafra: How did you go with audacity?
[10:26] <athena> not shared, mounted :)
[10:26] <f_newton> shore it seems to for me
[10:26] <Razor-X> athena: : think about it, what program are you calling if you type in a directory straight in
[10:26] <skalpel> topyli: well if nothing else works i will restart then. thank you for the paste
[10:26] <jvh> vader1102 - Yeah i set the screen to 1680 * 1050
[10:27] <topyli> skalpel: no, you have to kill it and start it again
[10:27] <f_newton> I am going over this os with a fine tooth comb because I am a bit skeptical...
[10:27] <vader1102> that's why dude, retry and set it to a lower res
[10:27] <jvh> vader1102 - i get the jingle when the xserver is loaded put no picture. I can get a tty1 tough
[10:27] <skalpel> topyli: from a terminal i guess?
[10:27] <Frafra> bimberi: it doesn't works. it want libmp3lame.so. with libmp3lame.so* doesn't works
[10:28] <dabaR> look, please keep it professional.
[10:28] <skalpel> topyli: what happens if i run a process like that and my terminal window just hangs there?
[10:28] <skalpel> like it is waiting for somethign?
[10:28] <dabaR> ok, enough crap for today from me.
[10:28] <dabaR> later.
[10:28] <jvh> vader1102 - i have tried a lower resolution - same shit
[10:28] <topyli> skalpel: yes, any terminal. just remember to use "esd&" so that it will continue running after you close the terminal
[10:28] <Razor-X> is it wrong to ask someone to think when I offer help? :(
[10:28] <skalpel> ok, that asnwers that
[10:28] <athena> Razor-X, i have no idea. im a green green newbie from XP :)
[10:29] <Razor-X> athena: well, you're calling the directory
[10:29] <vader1102> jvh: out of my area then, maybe someone else has some ideas
[10:29] <fgr> hello, is it possible to have nautilus working like in warty: opening a new window when clickinn on file and having parent folder still  open?
[10:29] <Razor-X> so it looks for a command called ``/media/c''
[10:29] <f_newton> jvh what vid card are you running?
[10:29] <Razor-X> and it says ``Oh oh, there's no command called that!''
[10:29] <athena> yes, i thought so, but it dosent work
[10:29] <skalpel> realplayer still will not start up though
[10:29] <Razor-X> so basically, you have to pass it to your file manager
[10:29] <jvh> vader1102 - thanks anyway man
[10:29] <skalpel> i wonder what it is
[10:29] <vader1102> I tried
[10:29] <sun_> exit
[10:29] <bimberi> Frafra: hm ok - libmp3lame.so is in the "liblame-dev" package
[10:29] <Razor-X> (i'm assuming you use nautilus, I may be wrong)
[10:29] <jvh> f_newton - Radeon x700
[10:29] <catolh> Whats the default in ubuntu? Metacity? Gtk 2.x ? Gtk 1.x? Or have i misunderstood the whole theme thing? I want to install some new themes from gnome-look.org, and im seeing several choices .. like the ones i mentioned before (gtk, meta++). Could someone explain what i need? (To use GTK 2.x + GTK 1.x & Metacity themes)
[10:29] <winslayer> Hello All. A quick question. Can Kubuntu live cd be installed to hdd??
[10:29] <topyli> skalpel: hrm. try starting it with esd killed
[10:29] <Razor-X> so something like ``nautilus /media/C/''
[10:29] <Razor-X> winslayer: get the Kubuntu install CD
[10:29] <skalpel> topyli: ok
[10:30] <Razor-X> and don't prepend ``win'', you'll be getting a lot of hate ;)
[10:30] <athena> Razor-X, yes i use nautilus
[10:30] <Razor-X> athena: then try that
[10:30] <f_newton> ah.... xpress
[10:30] <Razor-X> first in a Terminal, for practice
[10:30] <skalpel> topyli: same problem
[10:30] <t3rror> can someone explain why mplayer is not included in the ubuntu repositories?
[10:30] <winslayer> Razor-X, Thx , is that a standard type install?
[10:30] <Razor-X> winslayer: yeahp
[10:30] <topyli> skalpel: then it's not esd after all :\
[10:30] <Razor-X> t3rror: have you added universe and multiverse?
[10:30] <winslayer> Argh ok :)
[10:30] <topyli> skalpel: doesn't hurt fixing it anyway
[10:30] <t3rror> not really sure
[10:31] <f_newton> skalpel you need the older libs.  realplayer doesnt work with the newer kernels yet... what is it...compat c++?
[10:31] <athena> nope. it asks if i want to run or display.
[10:31] <athena> Do you want to run "s", or display its contents?
[10:31] <Razor-X> !tell t3rror about repos
[10:31] <jvh> f_newton - what does that mean ? Is there a general problem with ati's PCIxpress cards ?
[10:31] <skalpel> topyli: what did that change, anyway, specifically, if you dont mind me asking
[10:31] <wajokki> why mp3 files doesent work in totem
[10:31] <t3rror> thx
[10:31] <athena> instead of just opening the mount
[10:31] <Razor-X> athena: hmmm...
[10:31] <t3rror> i will get right on that razor-x
[10:31] <LinuxJones> wajokki, you need to install the proper codecs
[10:31] <Razor-X> sorry, I use Kubuntu, so i'm not 100% sure on that command right there
[10:31] <topyli> skalpel: esd will die on its own when no process is asking for it. then the sound device will be free for non-esd-aware programs.
[10:31] <socomm> wajokki: Follow the link.
[10:32] <socomm> !restricted
[10:32] <ubotu> well, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:32] <f_newton> jvh no its just that linux is an open source basically community supported os and some of the newer stuff takes longer to get integrated, especially proprietary stuff like ati
[10:32] <topyli> skalpel: then of course esd will respawn when a process calls for it
[10:32] <Razor-X> topyli: I thought it stays alive, since it is a daemon
[10:32] <topyli> ^
[10:32] <Razor-X> Beware about restricted formats: they are illegal
[10:32] <topyli> Razor-X: no they're not
[10:32] <Razor-X> topyli: unless you own your own copy of the dlls, yes they are
[10:32] <skalpel> topyli: that sounds better, thank you
[10:32] <wajokki> socom what fuckin link
[10:33] <Razor-X> topyli: and not everyone does
[10:33] <topyli> Razor-X: distribution of some dlls may be illegal in some countries, yes
[10:33] <Razor-X> topyli: it's illegal in the US as well
[10:33] <concept10> f_newton, hello!  have you installed ubuntu?
[10:33] <jvh> f_newton - i was afraid you might say that. I spend very long time deciding witch laptop to buy. Finally i made my pick and then i choose some not supported yet :-(  ..SIGH
[10:33] <Razor-X> Microsoft has a copyright on anything in their operating system, thus using their dlls is illegal
[10:33] <topyli> Razor-X: everything is illegal there
[10:34] <f_newton> concept10, yo dude!  yes I did
[10:34] <Razor-X> _unless_ you own a legitimate copy
[10:34] <drg> join #java
[10:34] <f_newton> so far its been pretty good to me
[10:34] <Razor-X> topyli: unfortunately, Microsoft is US based, no?
[10:34] <athena> anyone here use gnome?
[10:34] <f_newton> fc is getting worse by the day
[10:34] <Seveas> athena, LOTS of people in here do :)
[10:34] <LinuxJones> athena, most everybody :)
[10:34] <topyli> Razor-X: i am not. anyway, i do have a copy of windows
[10:34] <athena> and know to shortcut to a mount? :)
[10:34] <concept10> f_newton, Ive been using ubuntu since right before FC4 came out.  Thats why you dont see me in that channel too much anymore.
[10:34] <f_newton> no support, smart assed answers for serious problems etc
[10:34] <Razor-X> topyli: it's nice to tell people that,though
[10:35] <jeanjean> hi
[10:35] <Razor-X> RPM's scare me... ;)
[10:35] <topyli> Razor-X: well yeah, to be careful
[10:35] <LinuxJones> jeanjean, welcome
[10:35] <Razor-X> topyli: better your own ass covered ;)
[10:35] <f_newton> concept10, well I am a redhat man, you know that... but thats just because most debian derivs dont function well
[10:35] <chrissturm> even if you own those dlls its not 100% legal. you are probably violating the dmca
[10:35] <Gabriel> Hello I just installed Breezy, but I can't start X due to a fatal server error, it seems it can't find the fonts... Any ideas?
[10:35] <topyli> Razor-X: it's covered all right :)
[10:35] <Razor-X> Gabriel: that's because
[10:35] <Razor-X> dun dun dun dun dun dun DUNNNNN
[10:35] <Frafra> i've installed liblame-dev
[10:35] <socomm> Gabriel: Read the topic.
[10:36] <Razor-X> X is T3H BROKEN IN dun dun dun DUN.... Breezy! XD
[10:36] <f_newton> concept10, I was having horrible problems with fc4 due to a recent update and all I could get from the dev team was its my fault and it works for me crap
[10:36] <Frafra> but it say "segmentation fault"
[10:36] <LinuxJones> f_newton, what problems are you having ?
[10:36] <Razor-X> sorry, I had to make that a song, meh!
[10:36] <concept10> f_newton, I been using Ubuntu for a couple of months now.  No problems with any apps.  The community is better also.  I think you will enjoy it.
[10:36] <Seveas> Frafra, a -dev package cannot say segmentation fault
[10:36] <Gabriel> Razor-X: ok IRC in text mode, I didn't see the topic
[10:36] <Seveas> which program is goving you the segmentation fault
[10:36] <jvh> f_newton - then tell me: i bought the SuSE box thinking that might help, being the official drivers and all - but same thing: some graphics shown but nothing usable
[10:36] <Seveas> ?
[10:36] <Razor-X> Gabriel: I use IRC in text mode as well
[10:36] <f_newton> concept10, other then the crappy fonts and inability to set my color bit rate ubuntu seems pretty good
[10:36] <topyli> Gabriel: use the /topic command
[10:37] <Frafra> Seveas: audacity
[10:37] <Gabriel> topyli: I did thanks
[10:37] <Razor-X> I just sang the song because every Breezy user says that
[10:37] <concept10> f_newton, yes, I hated the default fonts, I installed the microsoft core fonts
[10:37] <bimberi> Frafra: at what point does it segfault
[10:37] <Frafra> Seveas: and lame
[10:37] <topyli> Gabriel: breezy is broken, you may live with it or get a stable system
[10:37] <f_newton> jvh, look, ati will eventually come out with a lousy linux driver and someone in the linux dev team will redo it to work
[10:37] <Frafra> bimberi: at the start
[10:37] <tim> is there a way to turn off the ubuntu sound system from the command line?
[10:37] <Razor-X> f_newton: ATI has a linux driver already....
[10:37] <f_newton> concept10, is that on the apt repo list?
[10:38] <concept10> f_newton, you will also find that APT is so much better than yum.
[10:38] <f_newton> Razor-X, for the xpress 700/
[10:38] <shido> what?
[10:38] <f_newton> ?
[10:38] <Gabriel> Razor-X: topyli yep, too bad, I'll just reinstall Hoary I guess
[10:38] <shido> can y watch tv with it ?
[10:38] <Razor-X> wow, i'm out of date on my podcasts
[10:38] <shido> can you watch tv with the "nmew" ati driver
[10:38] <shido> ?
[10:38] <f_newton> most ati linux drivers suck
[10:38] <Razor-X> Gabriel: if you want, you can use twin and ride the storm till X gets fixed
[10:38] <ReleaseX> I have a laptop with a dell truemobile 1150 wlan mini pci card it uses orinoco_cs, and works on installing, but scanning does not seem to work, is this common, or rather how can i get it to scan
[10:38] <Razor-X> f_newton: how will a linux dev change that?
[10:38] <f_newton> most linux ati drivers work
[10:38] <Seveas> topic gardening :)
[10:39] <Razor-X> if the source isn't released, it's pretty much hopeless
[10:39] <macgyver2> tim, try 'amixer set Master mute'
[10:39] <Razor-X> Gabriel: twin is like a non-graphical version of X ;)
[10:39] <f_newton> right, they have to break down (reverse engineer) the ati proprietary driver
[10:39] <Cin> windowmaker is definatley not there, my sources list doesn't have it, can someone who has it on their list msg me their list pleeeeeease?
[10:39] <Razor-X> f_newton: that's easier said than done ;)
[10:39] <Gabriel> Razor-X: I just love too much ;)
[10:39] <f_newton> you are definitely rightr Razor-X
[10:39] <concept10> f_newton, i forgot the name of the package.  I think it is mstcorefonts, gimme a sec
[10:39] <Gabriel> Razor-X: I just love Gnome too much ;)
[10:40] <jvh> F_newton - so i cant use the bloody thing until ati decide to realease a driver ?
[10:40] <Seveas> Cin, it's called wmaker
[10:40] <Razor-X> Gabriel: hah, be that as it may
[10:40] <jowi> tim, you can kill the esd server. but if you want to turn it off completely you need to say so in gmone-sound-properties
[10:40] <Seveas> Cin, and it's available from the repositories in the list O gave you
[10:40] <Cin> :O
[10:40] <tim> jowi, yea kill the esd server...so that I can get sound in my game (Americas army)
[10:40] <concept10> !info corefonts
[10:40] <Cin> Seveas: you are my god
[10:40] <Diddi> lo lo folks =)
[10:40] <Gabriel> Razor-X: thanks anyway
[10:40] <f_newton> well I will check it out concept10  i am currently trying to figure out how to get my crossover rpm to work in a deb based os like ubuntu and find an effective vidplayer like xine
[10:40] <Seveas> :)
[10:40] <bimberi> Frafra: hm - was it working before installing the library?
[10:40] <Seveas> Cin: apt-cache search windowmaker
[10:40] <t3rror> razor-x that link is outdated
[10:40] <Cin> :P
[10:40] <Razor-X> Cin: use aptitude
[10:40] <Seveas> shows lots of goodies for it too :)
[10:40] <t3rror> about the repos
[10:40] <Razor-X> ;)
[10:41] <Cin> i love the Cube CPU monitor
[10:41] <Diddi> anyone here to talk to about the shipping-version of ubuntu?
[10:41] <f_newton> concept10, local dude makes good!
[10:41] <Seveas> Diddi, just ask :)
[10:41] <Diddi> oks
[10:41] <yonil> anyone managed to install the latest inkscape ?
[10:41] <Razor-X> Diddi: i'm the PR guy of Ubuntu! ;)
[10:41] <t3rror> it says that there is a settings button in the repositories window from synaptic, but there isn't
[10:41] <jowi> tim, 'killall esd' (i do not have esd active so this is a guess - find out the real name with 'ps -A')
[10:41] <concept10> f_newton, the package is called msttcorefonts
[10:41] <Seveas> Razor-X, please don't tell lies...
[10:41] <f_newton> kewl
[10:41] <Razor-X> Seveas: it's meant to be a joke
[10:41] <Diddi> I'm running the live-cd right now, and I like it =) though I have a few ideas about it.
[10:41] <t3rror> can you just tell me what the address is to universe and multivers, and i can add them manually to my sites.list
[10:41] <f_newton> concept10, thanks
[10:42] <Cin> brb, trying it ooot
[10:42] <Seveas> Razor-X, not everyone understands that :)
[10:42] <Razor-X> does Ubuntu even have a PR guy?
[10:42] <Seveas> Razor-X, mako
[10:42] <f_newton> concept10, I am skeptical of any os that leaves a big wide hole into root like ubuntu does
[10:42] <Razor-X> Seveas: ahhh, ok, meh
[10:42] <LinuxJones> Razor-X, I doubt it considering their marketing :D
[10:42] <Seveas> Diddi, you mean ideas for improvement?
[10:42] <skalpel> can someone recommend a cd ripper that supports cddb?
[10:42] <concept10> f_newton, what do you mean by that?
[10:42] <Razor-X> wow, my podcasts _are_ out of date
[10:42] <Diddi> My idea was to order a couple of hundred cds or something, to give away and try out for schools etc. and for that I think it can be changed a little bit, to make it easier for new ppl =)
[10:42] <ReleaseX> I have a laptop with a dell truemobile 1150 wlan mini pci card it uses orinoco_cs, and works on installing, but scanning does not seem to work, is this common, or rather how can i get it to scan
[10:42] <Diddi> Seveas: yeah
[10:43] <jowi> skalpel, sound-juicer works for me
[10:43] <Seveas> Diddi, let's hear them :)
[10:43] <skalpel> jowi: how do you get it to query cddb? i do not see a way
[10:43] <f_newton> concept10, the way the usr accts are set up root is reserved and open to outside aggressors by nature
[10:43] <jowi> skalpel, it is automatic. pop in a cd and it downloads the stuff
[10:43] <skalpel> jowi: is it supposed to do it automatically? maybe i should try a diff cd and see what happens
[10:43] <skalpel> jowi: ok, thank you
[10:44] <Diddi> Seveas: well, A better wm might be KDE (kubuntu?), and a few more icons on desktop
[10:44] <vader1102> bbl: customers rule my world...:(
[10:44] <Diddi> the user likes to have "easy-access" to things, like their homedir, mail/www etc.
[10:44] <Razor-X> Diddi: Kubuntu uses KDE as a WM, yes
[10:44] <Seveas> Diddi, there is a KDE version of the livecd too, but gnome is definitely better
[10:44] <concept10> f_newton, thats not true.  Ubuntu uses sudo.  The root account is diasabled by default
[10:44] <Seveas> Diddi, and no, more icons is NOT good; it's confusing :)
[10:45] <Choubaka> less is more. :)
[10:45] <topyli> Diddi: those are design decisions that are very elemental to ubuntu. you need another distro :)
[10:45] <Diddi>  I see
[10:45] <Choubaka> I read an article about the famous one-button mouse once.
[10:46] <Choubaka> It claimed that an interface which requires a mouse to have two buttons is badly designed.
[10:46] <Razor-X> Choubaka: mice themselves are badly designed ;)
[10:46] <Choubaka> Yeah.
[10:46] <concept10> I have an idea!
[10:47] <john__UK> hello guys, I was wondering if any one could help me with a video problem in ubuntu?
[10:47] <Seveas> oh no...
[10:47] <Seveas> concept10, ha an idea...
[10:47] <Seveas> run while you can...
[10:47] <Seveas> :)
[10:47] <Diddi> my thought was to "catch" new users as fast as possible :) though it might be confusing for the old "windows-user" to take a big step as having an empty desktop etc. at once :P
[10:47] <Choubaka> a small touchpad and a pen would make a better pointer. :P
[10:47] <Razor-X> by the way, UNIX is based on the concept of the ``Three button mouse''
[10:47] <concept10> Forget mice..  gimme a mouse pad that detects your hand movement
[10:47] <Razor-X> I like my trackball very much ;)
[10:47] <f_newton> I like traCballs too
[10:47] <Diddi> just some spontanous ideas, dunno if it's better. but that's what I've heard :)
[10:47] <tommi^> What should I call my computer? Nou, really, give me ideas.
[10:47] <Choubaka> uh?
[10:47] <concept10> what do you guys think of that?
[10:48] <Seveas> Diddi, the emty desktop should be refreshing :)
[10:48] <Diddi> aha :P
[10:48] <Choubaka> did mice even exist when unix was designed.
[10:48] <f_newton> how about computer?
[10:48] <Razor-X> concept10: too taxing on the wrist
[10:48] <Seveas> Choubaka, he meant X
[10:48] <f_newton> yes Choubaka
[10:48] <Seveas> not UNIX :)
[10:48] <Choubaka> and windows desktop by default is very empty.
[10:48] <Razor-X> yes, my bad ;)
[10:48] <t3rror> could someone message me the addresses to the universe and multiverse repos?
[10:48] <Choubaka> Seveas: That makese more sense.
[10:48] <shore> anyone got sound running with ES1969 Solo? Using es1938 driver?
[10:48] <Razor-X> again, this is all mouse mased
[10:48] <Seveas> t3rror: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[10:48] <Diddi> yeah, though they have icons atleast for their homedirs =)
[10:48] <concept10> Razor-X, and a mouse isnt?
[10:48] <Diddi> and www
[10:48] <Choubaka> Well, who said X is well designed?
[10:48] <Razor-X> the movement detection is an extension of the mouse, nobody thinks past that anymore ;)
[10:48] <Razor-X> s/mased/based/
[10:48] <Seveas> Choubaka, I don't :)
[10:48] <Razor-X> concept10: I don't use a mouse
[10:49] <topyli> Diddi: there's an icon for the web in the panel
[10:49] <Razor-X> Choubaka: Three button mice where the mouse wheel acts as a button is as nice as a mouse can get ;)
[10:49] <concept10> Razor-X, I frequently have to randomly slap people to knock the carpel tunnel from my wrist after navigating with the mouse
[10:49] <john__UK> any one having problems with a neo magic video card on a dell latitude?
[10:49] <topyli> Diddi: the desktop is something the user should populate, not anyone else
[10:49] <skalpel> could someone recommend a good cd burning software for ubuntu?
[10:49] <Geist|Patrick> hi
[10:49] <Choubaka> Razor-X: how is that relevant?
[10:49] <Razor-X> concept10: yeah, mice suck
[10:49] <Diddi> topyli: huh?
[10:50] <Seveas> skalpel, gnomebaker, graveman, k3b
[10:50] <concept10> skalpel, k3b
[10:50] <LinuxJones> skalpel, graveman or gnoebaker
[10:50] <Choubaka> yes, a scroll wheel is nice.
[10:50] <bimberi> skalpel: nautilus (the file manager) as well
[10:50] <Razor-X> Choubaka: well, you're talking about X being badly designed, stemming from a three-button mouse
[10:50] <topyli> Diddi: didn't your gnome panel come with a firefox icon?
[10:50] <Choubaka> Razor-X: Well, duh.
[10:50] <Choubaka> somehow relying on a 3-button mouse is bad design
[10:50] <Diddi> yeah
[10:50] <Seveas> Diddi, and a nice places menu
[10:51] <Seveas> and a trashcan icon
[10:51] <Seveas> etc :)
[10:51] <Choubaka> except X only relies on 2 buttons
[10:51] <Diddi> no trashcan =P?
[10:51] <Razor-X> Choubaka: how is that a bad idea?
[10:51] <Silentsol> is Ubuntu based off of gentoo?
[10:51] <deprave> whats a good language to attempt to learn how to program on
[10:51] <Razor-X> I like three button mice meself
[10:51] <Seveas> Diddi, bottom right corner
[10:51] <Razor-X> deprave: C++
[10:51] <Choubaka> Razor-X: because not everyone has 3 buttons
[10:51] <Seveas> Silentsol, thank god not
[10:51] <loucomballa> Does anybody know how to launch a gnome terminal already MAXIMIZED from command line?
[10:51] <din> Silentsol, no, debian
[10:51] <Razor-X> Choubaka: that's only because Microsoft changed the standard
[10:51] <Seveas> Silentsol, Ubuntu is based on something solid: debian
[10:51] <deprave> Razor-X : any urls for documentation to get started on?
[10:51] <Choubaka> Razor-X: and some people might get confused by more than one buttons
[10:51] <Choubaka> :P
[10:51] <Choubaka> -s
[10:51] <Silentsol> how does ubuntu differ from debian
[10:51] <Seveas> Choubaka, those people use macs :)
[10:52] <Diddi> gah, I'll be right back :P the live-cd is killing my hardworking computer =P
[10:52] <Razor-X> Choubaka: some people may also be confused at my CLI interface, my trackball, and my Dvorak keyboard
[10:52] <Seveas> Silentsol: Ubuntu and debian have different goals, a different release schedule and different, but overlapping communities. See also http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/relationship
[10:52] <Razor-X> hasn't sotpped me yet ;)
[10:52] <topyli> Diddi: customize away! your ubuntu desktop gives you the perfect chance
[10:52] <Choubaka> Seveas: I use a mac.
[10:52] <Choubaka> and a 2 button mouse with a scroll wheel, mind you
[10:52] <skalpel> what is the command to delete a file in linux?
[10:52] <Seveas> Choubaka, I didn't say all mac users get confused by nore than one mouse :)
[10:52] <Seveas> skalpel, rm
[10:52] <Razor-X> I don't care about ``Someone else might get confused'' crap ;)
[10:52] <skalpel> thank you
[10:52] <Silentsol> also, if linux and mac are based off UNIX, why isnt mac considered linux?
[10:52] <deprave> Razor-X : any urls for documentation to get started on or just google around?
[10:53] <Razor-X> it's my system, who cares? meh
[10:53] <topyli> Diddi: here's mine: http://siltala.net/comp/Hoary-desktop.jpg
[10:53] <Seveas> Silentsol, since it does nit run the linux kernel
[10:53] <Razor-X> deprave: mane many good C++ tutorials online
[10:53] <Seveas> it runs a mach microkernel
[10:53] <deprave> alright thanks
[10:53] <Choubaka> Seveas: windws and linux users may get confused with the buttons too.
[10:53] <_SWAT_> I installed Ubuntu and tried logging in, it hangs. When I try to change the 'session' at the login prompt (to xfce for example) it shows nothing and hangs. What could be the problem/solution?
[10:53] <Razor-X> Silentsol: Linux is not UNIX
[10:53] <Razor-X> ;)
[10:53] <Razor-X> there are other free flavors of UNIX such as BSD
[10:53] <f_newton> Silentsol, unix split into three basic core kernels... bsd, linux, and unix genuine
[10:53] <Razor-X> (by the way, Linux is not UNIX is a recursive definition for Linux ;)
[10:53] <Seveas> f_newton, not true...
[10:54] <Razor-X> HURD, BSD, Linux, etc.
[10:54] <Seveas> they are three completely different things...
[10:54] <Razor-X> f_newton: what about Minix?
[10:54] <Razor-X> or HURD?
[10:54] <Seveas> Razor-X, minix is crap
[10:54] <Razor-X> Seveas: but it's UNIX based, no?
[10:54] <Seveas> Razor-X, sort-of
[10:54] <Razor-X> Linux was directly deviant from Minix
[10:54] <f_newton> minix is the very beginning of linux it is what mr torvalds based the first linux core on
[10:54] <concept10> this is one of the best ideas I have seen (for input): http://www.artlebedev.com/portfolio/optimus/
[10:54] <tahorg> Razor-X: nope
[10:54] <f_newton> minix was unix for x86 arch
[10:54] <deprave> to be fair, linux is a unix based operating system
[10:54] <Seveas> Razor-X, Tanenbaum and Torvalds had bight fights about OS design you mean :)
[10:54] <Choubaka> OS X is not UNIX either.
[10:55] <f_newton> osX is bsd based
[10:55] <Razor-X> Seveas: meh
[10:55] <Choubaka> the only unixes are those who are granted the right to use that label
[10:55] <skalpel> does anyone else have trouble with the embedded mplayer working in firefox, or have had trouble in the past?
[10:55] <Razor-X> yes, OS X is BSD based
[10:55] <Choubaka> I know that.
[10:55] <skalpel> it seems to want to keep buffering way longer than it should
[10:55] <Razor-X> and the BSD license is much less restrictive than Linux's
[10:55] <Choubaka> but OS X is no unix still
[10:55] <deprave> nothing is UNIX except AT&T UNIX, people accidentaly capitalize, poor souls.
[10:55] <f_newton> Choubaka, arent you due back at sco?
[10:55] <Razor-X> that's why Mac can get away with calling it ``Macintosh''
[10:55] <Seveas> deprave, not true anymore
[10:55] <Choubaka> f_newton: sco has nothing to do with it
[10:55] <deprave> oh, how's that?
[10:55] <Seveas> the ubix copyright is now owned by the open group
[10:55] <Choubaka> it's the Open group I think
[10:55] <Choubaka> yes.
[10:55] <Seveas> and they sell unix licenses
[10:56] <concept10> deprave, Linux could be UNIX at a cost
[10:56] <Silentsol> im glad to see what i started
[10:56] <f_newton> linux is better then sys4
[10:56] <Seveas> so every os can become unix if it complies to the single unix specification
[10:56] <f_newton> bsd is better then sys4
[10:56] <Choubaka> than*
[10:56] <topyli> linux is better than nothing :)
[10:56] <Choubaka> Yes. :D
[10:56] <concept10> Linux is UNIX-like.
[10:56] <Choubaka> Yes.
[10:56] <Choubaka> :)
[10:56] <jowi> linux is better than DOS too. well, sortof anyway ;-)
[10:56] <topyli> it's unix-like enough for me
[10:56] <Seveas> topyli, which implies that linx is better than windows :)
[10:56] <Silentsol> what does it mean to be "native unix
[10:57] <topyli> Seveas: exactly :)
[10:57] <deprave> i think linux works out well for desktop operations, for name/web/mail servers i prefer fbsd. it's all about preference methinks.
[10:57] <Seveas> Silentsol, nothing :)
[10:57] <juanp983> Hello
[10:57] <Seveas> deprave, indeed
[10:57] <Razor-X> I can't stand DOS, meself
[10:57] <topyli> Silentsol: mu
[10:57] <occy> hey gang, I have booted up to single user mode:   linux single   and when I press enter, it waits 10 seconds and then returns back to asking for the login screen.
[10:57] <bimberi> Seveas: are you saying that nothing is better than windows ? :)
[10:57] <Choubaka> Silentsol: to have the conformed to the UNIX spec and to have paid for the right to use the label or something
[10:57] <deprave> he's saying anything is better than windows.
[10:57] <LinuxJones> I think we're running offtopic with all this UNIX banter.
[10:57] <skalpel> what does this erro mean inside of graveman when trying to write an audio cd?
[10:57] <skalpel> Can't open input file '(null)': No such file or directory
[10:57] <Silentsol> is mac "native unix"
[10:57] <Seveas> bimberi, having nothing is better than having windows ;)
[10:57] <concept10> I dont think anyone here knows the real difference between Linux and true UNIX. IMHO
[10:57] <skalpel> can someoen tell me?
[10:57] <Seveas> (imao)
[10:57] <Choubaka> Silentsol: no
[10:57] <Razor-X> concept10: not many do
[10:57] <Silentsol> good
[10:58] <Silentsol>  so im going to tell my friend that hes an idiot
[10:58] <jmanns> my gnome desktop went blank on me.  how do i fix it?
[10:58] <Razor-X> because, how many people have _really_ read the GPL?
[10:58] <Razor-X> ;)
[10:58] <jowi> skalpel, "the file does not exist"?
[10:58] <bimberi> seveas, deprave: tvm - that's much clearer to me now ;)
[10:58] <jmanns> all the desktop icons are gone
[10:58] <Choubaka> Razor-X: I have.
[10:58] <Seveas> Razor-X, I have :)
[10:58] <topyli> Razor-X: me!
[10:58] <topyli> hehe
[10:58] <Razor-X> but, the average user?
[10:58] <rorviker> I got a SB live card that aint working properly, when I boost the voulme up on my stereo without playing anything there is a "bang" like every half sec. and I need to boost the volume almost to max to hear anything, and the volume on the computer is not low.. help plz :)
[10:58] <Silentsol> hes like "im getting a mac" and im like "why" and hes all like "its native unix" and im like "stfu, u dont even know what that means"
[10:58] <deprave> Silentsol: i'm not familiar with mac since 5'th grade computing, but isn't osx fbsd powered now?
[10:58] <Razor-X> (I have, obviously)
[10:58] <f_newton> ohboy tv aint the only myth running around here...
[10:58] <topyli> Razor-X: licenses are for developers really
[10:58] <Choubaka> Silentsol: It's unix-like :)
[10:58] <Seveas> Silentsol, he doesn't know what he's talking about :)
[10:58] <Kemito> Hey everyone.  My screen resolution is locked at 640x480 and cannot change it, i've been trying the wiki solution for this but can't seem to get it to work.  Wehre can i go to find how to fix it?
[10:59] <Razor-X> topyli: no it's not
[10:59] <Razor-X> it's good to know what you're using
[10:59] <juanp983> Pleople, i need to mount a server for video streaming, Can i help me?
[10:59] <Seveas> Kemito, did you edit xorg.conf already?
[10:59] <Razor-X> that way, someone can't undermine the fine print on ya
[10:59] <Geist|Patrick> someone there who can help me
[10:59] <concept10> deprave, OS X is two kernels joined at the hip. MACH and FreeBSD
[10:59] <Razor-X> !tell Kemito about resolution
[10:59] <Geist|Patrick> i try to install atis propritary linux driver
[10:59] <Geist|Patrick> http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.14.13-inst.html#176980 <--
[10:59] <deprave> concept10: ah, ok.
[10:59] <Choubaka> Who here has read MS EULA?
[10:59] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, DON'T
[10:59] <Razor-X> Choubaka: long ago
[10:59] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:59] <Kemito> Seveas: Tried that, but it made the whole graphical interface unusable
[10:59] <topyli> Razor-X: sure. like you say, to cover your own butt. but things get complicated when developing or distributing, not at usage
[10:59] <Choubaka> Razor-X: Haha. I haven't :/
[10:59] <Choubaka> Too much to read.
[10:59] <deprave> conep: is it the first of its kind or the mac os has always been built like that?
[11:00] <Seveas> Kemito, paste your xorg.conf on the pastebin please
[11:00] <Choubaka> WAY.
[11:00] <Razor-X> Choubaka: hahaha
[11:00] <deprave> concept10: is it the first of its kind or the mac os has always been built like that?
[11:00] <Razor-X> I read a lot, so it's no sweat for me
[11:00] <Choubaka> Well, I read a lot too
[11:00] <Seveas> deprave, before os X mac was crap :)
[11:00] <Razor-X> perusing legal crap is also a good skill for a Mock Trial team attorney ;)
[11:00] <Geist|Patrick> Check the modprobe manpage for more information on loading kernel modules.
[11:00] <Geist|Patrick> To verify that the AGP module is already loaded, run lsmod as root. With the X server running and the connection established, the usage count of this module must be greater than zero.
[11:00] <Choubaka> but legal text is... arg.hh.g.g.hg.
[11:00] <Seveas> and not based on mach/unix/bsd
[11:00] <Geist|Patrick> how do i get the module work like this
[11:00] <Razor-X> Seveas: Windows is getting to OS 9 shitness
[11:00] <Geist|Patrick> actually its zero for me :/
[11:00] <Choubaka> I no longer agree to MS' EULA anyway.
[11:00] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick: You can read all about binary-only driver issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:00] <skalpel> topyli: which file, the audio tracks i want to write? they exist.
[11:00] <Choubaka> Even though I don't even know what it contains for the most part.
[11:01] <action09> hi all
[11:01] <topyli> skalpel: huh?
[11:01] <juanp983> hi
[11:01] <LinuxJones> action09, welcome
[11:01] <concept10> deprave, yes. the first time.  Before MAC OS X, this type of system existed in Steve Jobs' NeXT workstations
[11:01] <Geist|Patrick> those drivers i get with apt-get dont have 3d acceleration
[11:01] <skalpel> topyli: why would i be able to add them to the que but then graveman tell me it does not exist? i can play it in my player.
[11:01] <Razor-X> one thing I hate about Windows is that, every single application uses a different license
[11:01] <deprave> Razor-X: I just found a pdf called learning c++ as a new language, written by AT&T labs, think that may be relatively helpful for my mission?
[11:01] <action09> i lost my connection to my Hoary's vino server.. i have a "ReadFromRFBServer: rdr::EndOfStream" error message do i have to restart vino or something ? please
[11:02] <Razor-X> deprave: I'm not sure how old that is
[11:02] <Seveas> action09, I think you need to restart it indeed
[11:02] <deprave> hmm touche
[11:02] <Geist|Patrick> so this faq doesnt help me with the ati driver
[11:02] <Geist|Patrick> :/
[11:02] <Razor-X> deprave: if you want a dedicated study, get a nice, say, O' Reiley book
[11:02] <Kemito> Seveas: where should I paste this? i'm on a different computer right now, actually
[11:02] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, those drivers have it....
[11:02] <jowi> skalpel, and if you drag'n'drop the files to the "CD audio" window?
[11:02] <concept10> deprave, from the Apple site: Darwin is based on BSD (Berkeley System Distribution) UNIX and provides support for many POSIX, Linux, and System V APIs. Apple integrated the widely used FreeBSD 5 UNIX distribution with the Mach 3.0 microkernel to deliver key Darwin functionality
[11:02] <topyli> skalpel: i have no idea. i've never used graveman. perhaps you are confusing me with someone else?
[11:02] <action09> Seveas vion isn't a 'normal' service and i can't start it with /etc/init.d/vino start .. do you know how ?
[11:02] <Seveas> you just need to enable it like you would with the ones you are trying now...
[11:02] <Geist|Patrick> no i already tried it with them
[11:02] <Geist|Patrick> :/
[11:02] <Seveas> action09, ENOIDEA
[11:02] <Geist|Patrick> they dont accelerate 3d
[11:02] <Geist|Patrick> neither 2d :/
[11:03] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, they do have 3d accel. I use them myself
[11:03] <skalpel> jowi: i will try that
[11:03] <action09> maybe like a normal vncserver..
[11:03] <Geist|Patrick> those i downloaded with synaptic dont have it
[11:03] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, than download the good ones...
[11:03] <Seveas> the linux-restricted-modules package has them
[11:03] <LinuxJones> Geist|Patrick, yes they do, you made an error when following the instructions.
[11:04] <skalpel> jowi: i get the same error
[11:04] <jowi> skalpel, hang on
[11:04] <skalpel> topyli: what do you use for cd burning?
[11:04] <concept10> I wish it were possible to run GNOME on darwin.
[11:05] <rorviker> I got a SB live card that aint working properly, when I boost the voulme up on my stereo without playing anything there is a "bang" like every half sec. and I need to boost the volume almost to max to hear anything, and the volume on the computer is not low.. i'm using the emu10k1 drivers..
[11:05] <skalpel> jowi: alright
[11:05] <gigaclon> is there a way to choose another format when creating a archive
[11:05] <jowi> skalpel, maybe the file is corrupted or something... works fine for me (both d'n'd and 'add' with both mp3 and ogg files)
[11:05] <topyli> skalpel: nautilus handles simple data well. otherwise, gnomebaker is a nice burning app
[11:05] <kev0r> rorviker: have you tried alsamixer / alsamixergui ??
[11:06] <jowi> skalpel, what file-type are you trying to make a music cd out of?
[11:06] <rorviker> kev0r, I have turned the volumeup on alsamixer yes
[11:06] <deprave> an .chm files be viewed in ubuntu/
[11:06] <kev0r> rorviker: when i installed my emu10k1 chipset i had to tweak trough the volume cuz one bar was too low
[11:06] <jowi> skalpel, graveman converts mp3/ogg to correct format before burning
[11:06] <topyli> skalpel: i'm intrigued by serpentine too, which is supposed to handle audio cd's well. together with nautilus, they should make a nice pair
[11:06] <deprave> can .chm files be viewed in ubuntu?
[11:06] <kev0r> my advice is to try all the bars till you hear difference :P
[11:06] <rorviker> when I play a music file I need to put my stereo almost to max to hear anything and still got the bang noise
[11:06] <LinuxJones> deprave, xchm is in multiverse
[11:06] <Seveas> topyli, serpentine will be the default audio burning solution for breezy :)
[11:07] <skalpel> well, i am trying bnomebaker now and it works fine so i will probably stick with that
[11:07] <rorviker> kev0r, yeah, I saw it on the wiki that it was usually turned of
[11:07] <topyli> Seveas: if it works, i'm not very surprised. it fits the gnome environment well
[11:07] <kev0r> rorviker: the bang-noice i can't explain, but my initial config was so soft i could not hear anything
[11:07] <jowi> Seveas, serpentine? never heard of. is it in the reps now?
[11:08] <Seveas> jowi, no
[11:08] <Geist|Patrick> rebooting now...
[11:08] <Geist|Patrick> i hope i cu :)
[11:08] <topyli> jowi: might be in backports-extras
[11:08] <skalpel> what is a good ftp client for ubuntu/gnome?
[11:09] <Seveas> places -> connect to server
[11:09] <topyli> gftp
[11:09] <jowi> topyli, yep, got it
[11:09] <rorviker> kev0r, I have turned everyting possible up, except something thats off. like tone and headphone
[11:09] <rorviker> and I cant find any way to turn it on
[11:09] <kev0r> Anyone here know how to turn off the timesync at bootup? (the one that connects to ntp.ubuntulinux.org) i've this pc that's not on internet, and hangs very long on the timecheck..
[11:09] <Razor-X> I can't wait for libvorbis4.0-wstreams
[11:09] <kev0r> hmzble
[11:09] <Razor-X> or, whatever the package name is ;)
[11:09] <kev0r> i dno then :P
[11:09] <Seveas> kev0r, update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[11:09] <kev0r> kiss
[11:10] <Razor-X> then, we can have BASHBurn
[11:10] <skalpel> what is a good ftp client for ubuntu/gnome?
[11:10] <Seveas> places -> connect to server
[11:10] <Geist|Patrick> ok
[11:10] <Geist|Patrick> i am bakc
[11:10] <Razor-X> skalpel: gftp for GUI
[11:10] <Geist|Patrick> dispay is working
[11:10] <topyli> Razor-X: yeah, or burn
[11:10] <dimitris> Well i just finished a step by step reinstallation of ubuntu and finally solved my problem woth gtk1 applications and ungly fonts
[11:10] <Geist|Patrick> where can i check ogl now
[11:10] <f_newton> rorviker, once it boots right click on the time in upper corner of your taskbar choose adjust date n time
[11:10] <kev0r> Seveas: will removing more internet related bootup thingies speed up the boot?
[11:10] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, glxgears
[11:10] <topyli> skalpel: or as Seveas said, you can connect to servers with the file manager
[11:11] <jowi> Seveas, topyli: serpentine seem only to be for music-cd's. i stick to graveman so i have all in one app :-)
[11:11] <tim> quick question about breezy....it is going to use gnome 2.12 correct
[11:11] <Seveas> kev0r, there are not really any others :)
[11:11] <dimitris> Seems that upgrading to the latest emule somehow made the fonts of gtk1 based apps unreadable
[11:11] <kev0r> ok, thanks :)
[11:11] <skalpel> topyli: that sounds good, i did not see that
[11:11] <Geist|Patrick> they are running
[11:11] <Geist|Patrick> a good sign?
[11:11] <skalpel> topyli: can you explain how i would do that?
[11:11] <kev0r> this is so cewl, i'm gonna build this pc in a case under a bar somewhere in a cafe, only to play mp3's... it does not have a powerswitch.. let's see how long it will run ^^
[11:11] <psychonate> dimitris, I rather like amule.
[11:12] <Razor-X> kev0r: i've made a Linux music box
[11:12] <dimitris> So do i but the latest version that uses gtk2 somehow messed up my fonts
[11:12] <kev0r> ubuntu-server install -> xfce4, gdm, x-server and xmms are installed :)
[11:12] <kev0r> nothing else
[11:12] <psychonate> dimitris, I thought you said you were using emule?
[11:12] <Razor-X> kev0r: the hardest part was buying the mini-mobo
[11:12] <Geist|Patrick> where can i check the version of ths driver?
[11:12] <kev0r> hehe, mini-mobo, sounds cute :P
[11:13] <Razor-X> well, it's expensive
[11:13] <Razor-X> I made a dperessable power switch, so that the mometn you open the box, it boots up and starts playing
[11:13] <kev0r> hmm, then it needs to sound cute idd... I've chmodded the useraccounts homedir so no settings will be f-ed up
[11:13] <deprave> Razor-X : is c++ most renown as far as languages go or ?
[11:13] <Razor-X> and used a music player that takes only 1 MB more RAM than the MP3 it playes
[11:13] <Razor-X> s/playes/plays/
[11:13] <dimitris> psychomate, sorry i use amule. I use emule in winxp and i wrote emule instead :-)
[11:13] <Razor-X> deprave: one of the most, yeah
[11:13] <deprave> i.e. if i get into it and do well, will i make some money? =D
[11:13] <psychonate> ah
[11:13] <kev0r> nice, this box users 85 mb ram
[11:13] <kev0r> playing mp3
[11:14] <Seveas> deprave, you can make money with any language
[11:14] <Razor-X> I used a very strapped down embedded OS
[11:14] <Seveas> except for things like whitespace or brainfuck
[11:14] <Razor-X> et voila ;)
[11:14] <kev0r> ah, ok :)
[11:14] <skalpel> does anyone else have any trouble with the embedded mplayer plugin stopping at 99% buffer?
[11:14] <dimitris> psychomate, Which version of amule do you have? The new with the gtk2 libraries?
[11:14] <topyli> skalpel: simply choose "network servers" from the "places" menu
[11:14] <psychonate> dimitris, are you in GNOME? Did you try changing the fonts in their little settings menu or whatever?
[11:14] <kev0r> but this mediabox needs to read USBsticks/harddrives and MP3 cd's/dvd's
[11:14] <psychonate> dimitris, amule 2.0.0
[11:15] <kev0r> only thing i haven't accomplished is the automatic usb-stick mount...
[11:15] <skalpel> topylui: i do not have a 'places' menu
[11:15] <kev0r> but i've got 2 buttons in the panel, to mount/unmount
[11:15] <skalpel> how would i start gftp? that command does not work from the command line
[11:15] <topyli> jowi: i'd like to see nautilus be able to handle audio cds too
[11:15] <dimitris> psychomate, Well i think the last time i updated to amule 2.0.3 and the fonts messed up bad in gtk1 apps
[11:15] <Seveas> skalpel, are you still running warty?
[11:15] <kev0r> skalpel: sudo apt-get install gftp; gftp
[11:15] <skalpel> seveas: hoary
[11:16] <Seveas> topyli, in breezy/gnome 2.12 it can
[11:16] <Seveas> skalpel, then you should have a places menu
[11:16] <Seveas> or are you using KDE?
[11:16] <topyli> Seveas: rocking!
[11:16] <kev0r> skalpel: if ur running KDE, don't do the apt-get thingy :P
[11:16] <dimitris> I tried everything i could find in threads in ubuntu forums such as editing the gtkrc files used, changing locales, using gtk-theme-switch to edit fonts used but still the fonts never returned to normal
[11:16] <juanp983> Somebody is using flumotion on ubuntu hoary?
[11:16] <skalpel> seveas: inside file browser? i do not see it.
[11:16] <Seveas> topyli, http://www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/
[11:16] <skalpel> kev0r: i am running gnome, like i should =)
[11:16] <Seveas> skalpel, no the menu in the panel
[11:16] <kev0r> ok, pff :)
[11:16] <mpmc> How do I install java?
[11:16] <Seveas> at the very top of the screen
[11:17] <Seveas> mpmc: To install java on Ubuntu: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, sudo aptitude install fakeroot java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , sudo dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[11:17] <dimitris> Well i just did a fresh install with no amule and everything seems to be ok so far
[11:17] <topyli> skalpel: darn. i read that earlier today but missed this news :)
[11:17] <mpmc> seveas: are you a bot?
[11:17] <mpmc> lol
[11:17] <Seveas> mpmc, yes
[11:17] <kev0r> LOL
[11:17] <topyli> hehe
[11:17] <jowi> lol
[11:17] <LinuxJones> juanp983, not personally but I have heard of a few people using it yeah.
[11:18] <psychonate> dimitris, I'm getting ready to upgrade to the newer version of amule; mine is old. I'll see how that goes.
[11:18] <Deancolinux> Hello, is there any way  to convert a MPEG4 movie to a AVI?
[11:18] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[11:18] <Geist|Patrick> Seveas: is this the latest version of ati drivers
[11:18] <Aragorn_Guardian> Deancolinux: mplayer
[11:18] <dimitris> psychomate, let me now i am curious. I hope everything goes ok :-)
[11:18] <cs378> anyone know a good cpu temperature monitor?
[11:19] <Seveas> cs378, gdesklets has a nice one
[11:19] <topyli> Seveas: davyd's page says just "drag and drop capabilities from audio CDs". am i misunderstanding?
[11:19] <LinuxJones> juanp983, hi I have private messages disabled
[11:19] <Zodiac> hey guys
[11:19] <psychonate> Aren't all these monitors just frontends for 'sensors'?
[11:19] <Seveas> topyli, a bit lower :)
[11:19] <cs378> Seveas, apt-get install gdesklets?
[11:19] <Zodiac> I have a spare laptop, how bad of an idea is it to upgrade to breezy??
[11:19] <Seveas> topyli, just below the picture
[11:19] <topyli> Seveas: ah yes, by popular demand =)
[11:20] <topyli> very cool
[11:20] <Seveas> Zodiac, bad
[11:20] <Seveas> see topic
[11:20] <saintFrance> hey guys.. im trying to use gdesklets.. but i dont have any desklets.. and the site doesn thave it.. anyone know where i can get some?
[11:20] <juanp983> LinuxJones, Ok, no problem. I have installed the flumotion, by i have some problems in the configuration
[11:20] <Seveas> saintFrance, apt-get install gdesklets gdesklets-data
[11:20] <Zodiac> oh snap
[11:20] <LinuxJones> juanp983, you can't connect to the server ?
[11:20] <cs378> Seveas, ok thx
[11:20] <kev0r> omg Seveas ur fast :)
[11:20] <Zodiac> What if I did a fresh install??
[11:20] <Seveas> kev0r, bots always are :)
[11:21] <Seveas> Zodiac, makes no difference :)
[11:21] <topyli> Zodiac: unless of course this really is a _spare_ machine and you're willing to fix breezy :)
[11:21] <Zodiac> ha ha
[11:21] <Zodiac> Wow
[11:21] <Zodiac> so Breezy is that bad off eh?
[11:21] <kev0r> i only had like "apt-cache search gdesklets" typed and you ahd the answer :|
[11:21] <saintFrance> Seveas: when i do that.. its all messed up
[11:21] <Seveas> describe 'messed up'
[11:21] <topyli> Zodiac: just X that's all, plus some other little stuff
[11:21] <saintFrance> like it wont go to my desktop.. like it wont run at all
[11:22] <saintFrance> and gives me errors
[11:22] <Seveas> topyli, it's coming along nice, but the X transition is a really tough one
[11:22] <juanp983> LinuxJones, well, the problem is that i haven't the default.pem file
[11:22] <kev0r> then don't use it saintFrance
[11:22] <Zodiac> huh
[11:22] <Seveas> saintFrance, paste a few of the errors on the pastebin
[11:22] <Zodiac> So it wont start X?
[11:22] <skalpel> what is the best format for viewing videos?
[11:22] <Seveas> Zodiac, indeed :)
[11:22] <Seveas> skalpel, ogg theora
[11:22] <topyli> Seveas: i know ubuntu will rock again when it releases
[11:22] <Zodiac> whoops :)
[11:22] <Seveas> but almost any non-drm format can be played by mplayer :
[11:22] <Zodiac> Well I hope they work it out
[11:22] <juanp983> LinuxJones, I install the flumotion from repository for Ubuntu Hoary
[11:23] <Seveas> Zodiac, they will, there are some true geniuses working on it :)
[11:23] <Zodiac> I believe it ;)
[11:23] <saintFrance> kev0r: just wanted to make my desktop pretty :(
[11:23] <saintFrance> ill try
[11:23] <Zodiac> I want to help with the laptop support... but I am no Linux master
[11:23] <kev0r> saintFrance: can't you do that with Hoary?
[11:23] <mjr> speaking of X, anyone know if breezy will include the r300 DRI drivers that reportedly recently went from r300.sourceforget.net cvs to x.org?
[11:23] <Razor-X> Episode III is awesome ;)
[11:23] <LinuxJones> juanp983, I don't know what that is :(
[11:23] <Zodiac> so I doubt I would be of assistance if X wount start
[11:24] <Seveas> mjr, probably not...
[11:24] <Seveas> but you never know :)
[11:24] <kev0r> Seveas: since you are the alknowing here, will it take long for Xorg to start using GPU for dekstop rendering?
[11:24] <mjr> Seveas, yeah, I kinda thought it might be too soon
[11:24] <Goodspeed>  trying to overwrite `/usr/include/libnjb.h', which is also in package libnjb-dev
[11:24] <Seveas> kev0r, ENOIDEA
[11:24] <Goodspeed> how do i get rid of a package that has dependencies that i dont want o meet
[11:24] <Goodspeed> so i dont ge tthat error message?
[11:24] <juanp983> LinuxJones, well, not problem. Thz!
[11:24] <Seveas> Goodspeed, you mean installing the package without dependencies?
[11:25] <Goodspeed> the one that im trying to install doesnt havge any
[11:25] <Zodiac> Man, I wanted to be bleeding edge :(
[11:25] <Goodspeed> i tried to install one
[11:25] <mjr> maybe I might bother installing the driver code myself if it doesn't make it... (and get a new card)
[11:25] <Goodspeed> that did before
[11:25] <kev0r> Seveas: what's ENOIDEA
[11:25] <oni_> what command I must run to yaboot.cnf mods take effect?
[11:25] <Zodiac> he he
[11:25] <Seveas> kev0r, that means that i don't know
[11:25] <Razor-X> there you go, the edge of your hand is now bleeding
[11:25] <Razor-X> have fun ;)
[11:25] <kev0r> eeuuhhww, ok :P
[11:25] <Seveas> Goodspeed, maybe it's helpful to see the complete error/output...
[11:25] <Zodiac> sweeeettt
[11:25] <Razor-X> (you'll have more fun like this than you will with breezy)
[11:25] <Goodspeed> Unpacking libnjb (from libnjb_2.1.2-2_i386.deb) ...
[11:25] <Goodspeed> dpkg: error processing libnjb_2.1.2-2_i386.deb (--install):
[11:25] <Goodspeed>  trying to overwrite `/usr/include/libnjb.h', which is also in package libnjb-dev
[11:25] <Goodspeed> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[11:25] <Goodspeed> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:26] <Goodspeed>  libnjb_2.1.2-2_i386.deb
[11:26] <linlin> are there going to be alot of new features in breezy?
[11:26] <Seveas> Goodspeed, please do not paste in here....
[11:26] <kev0r> wonder why paste.ubuntulinux.nl is made...
[11:26] <kev0r> Goodspeed: use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for that stuff
[11:26] <Seveas> Goodspeed, sudo aptitude purge libnjb
[11:27] <Goodspeed> ive got 4 othe rpackages
[11:27] <Goodspeed> can i just purge them all?
[11:27] <oni_> after modify yaboot.conf, what command I must to run?
[11:27] <Seveas> Goodspeed, yup
[11:27] <Goodspeed> holy cow thats going to remove 19 things
[11:28] <Geist|Patrick> how can i chekc the driver version of the fglrx driver?
[11:28] <guillaume_> hi
[11:28] <tim> is ubuntu breezy going to ship w/ openoffice 2?
[11:28] <Goodspeed> it just removed ubuntu desktop
[11:28] <guillaume_> what are the modules to load to be able to use a new 0 Gb ipod ?
[11:28] <Goodspeed> ...
[11:28] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, fglrxinfo will show some
[11:28] <guillaume_> s/0/20
[11:29] <chuck54> Is there a wi-fi network scanner in ubuntu?
[11:29] <chicken> where is the file that changes where apt-get looks for files ?
[11:29] <Deancolinux> Hello, is there any way  to convert a MPEG4 movie to a AVI?
[11:29] <fusioncow> hi all.
[11:29] <vader1102> chuck54: iwlist scan
[11:29] <LinuxJones> chicken, /etc/apt/sources.lst
[11:29] <ReleaseX> I have a laptop with a dell truemobile 1150 wlan mini pci card it uses orinoco_cs, and works on installing, but scanning does not seem to work, is this common, or rather how can i get it to scan
[11:29] <oni_> Deancolinux: ffmpeg?
[11:29] <fusioncow> *sources.list
[11:30] <chicken> LinuxJones, Thanks
[11:30] <oni_> anyone can help me on yaboot?
[11:30] <Seveas> orinoco doesn't seem to supprt scanning (i've seen no orinoco cards so far that do)
[11:30] <Geist|Patrick> Seveas: thats not the original ati driver , optimes for debian?
[11:30] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, probably...
[11:30] <Geist|Patrick> does this one support the composite extensions?
[11:30] <Geist|Patrick> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:30] <Geist|Patrick> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[11:31] <fusioncow> looking run a script on login... is Gnome sessions the only way to do it, or is there a particular file I should look at for editing?
[11:31] <yonil> can some1 try entering this website: http://www.freeroms.com/ ?
[11:31] <yonil> i get the html code instead the rendered page ...
[11:31] <Geist|Patrick> can u help me to fix that?
[11:32] <vader1102> yonil: it is HTML code
[11:32] <Seveas> fusioncow, ~/.gnomerc can do it too for you
[11:32] <chrissturm> whats a good gnome app to rip dvds?
[11:32] <vader1102> they haven't made it as a rendered page yet
[11:32] <Geist|Patrick> should i install the xfreedriver too?
[11:33] <oni_> can I get help on yaboot plz?
[11:33] <yonil> vader1102, oh you get that too ? weird ...
[11:33] <vader1102> oni_ if someone has the anwer they will help
[11:33] <chuck54> vader: thanks! iwlist eth1 scan :)
[11:33] <vader1102> yw
[11:34] <oni_> after making changes to yaboot.conf, what is the command I must run?
[11:34] <Geist|Patrick> Seveas: have u an idea what went wrong?
[11:34] <fusioncow> ty Seveas,   It looks like I don't have one.  Is it just a shell script?
[11:34] <Seveas> oni_: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[11:34] <Seveas> fusioncow, yes, you can eassily create it
[11:34] <guillaume_> what is the pkg in which ryhtmbox is ...
[11:34] <oni_> ._. I'm having a heart attack
[11:34] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, no idea, did you install linux-686 (or linux-k7 if you're on amd) and xorg-driver-fglrx?
[11:35] <Geist|Patrick> i am running linux k7
[11:35] <Geist|Patrick> thats much faster
[11:35] <Nevado> is there an easy way to edit my mouse cursor theme? is it /etc/X11/cursors/core.theme?
[11:35] <fusioncow> ty Seveas, brb..
[11:35] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, ok, that's good, how about xorg-driver-fglrx?
[11:35] <derekvance> i forgot my root password how can i figure it out or change it
[11:35] <Geist|Patrick> synaptic says its installed
[11:36] <Seveas> derekvance, you can reset it using sudo passwd root
[11:36] <tikka> derekvance, sudo passwd root
[11:36] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, ok, did you edit your xorg.conf?
[11:36] <derekvance> ok
[11:36] <Geist|Patrick> i think so...
[11:36] <Geist|Patrick> i will check it again
[11:36] <Geist|Patrick> maybe i modified the wrong "ati"
[11:36] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, paste your xorg.conf on the pastebin
[11:37] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/879 my xorg.conf for an ati mobility 9600
[11:37] <Goodspeed> ahhh i cant odnwload frozen bubble
[11:37] <Goodspeed> i do apt-get update &&
[11:37] <Goodspeed> and then apt-get install frozen-bubble
[11:37] <Goodspeed> ubt it says it cant find it
[11:37] <Nevado> anyone know how i can install a new mouse theme?
[11:37] <LinuxJones> Goodspeed, I downloaded it the other night
[11:37] <Seveas> Goodspeed, did you enable universe already?
[11:37] <Geist|Patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/880
[11:37] <Goodspeed> am i doing it right?
[11:38] <Goodspeed> how do you do that?
[11:38] <Seveas> Goodspeed, did you ever edit /etc/aot/sources.list?
[11:38] <Seveas> Goodspeed, did you ever edit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:38] <Goodspeed> negative
[11:38] <deprave> i declare c++ in a nutshell is not a good book to learn off of
[11:38] <Seveas> Goodspeed, good :)
[11:38] <LinuxJones> Goodspeed, you need to add the universe repository
[11:38] <Goodspeed> how would i do that/
[11:38] <Seveas> in that case: sudo wget http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/?download=38 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:38] <Seveas> and then apt-get update
[11:38] <Seveas> and apt-get install frozen-bubble
[11:38] <prodigy> Does anyone know how to install Gartoon for Ubuntu?
[11:39] <skalpel> hi i installed limewire but when i try to start the program nothing happens, can someone help me?
[11:39] <Seveas> Geist|Patrick, your xorg.conf looks good
[11:39] <pusling> hmm... is it possible to make ubuntu run on a fat-partition ?
[11:39] <Seveas> pusling, ewwww no
[11:40] <pusling> Seveas: yeaah - I know ,)
[11:40] <Geist|Patrick> welll
[11:40] <neighborlee> does gdeb work to actually install .deb packages after downloading from internet ?
[11:40] <ubuntu> does ubuntu generaly just use debian sarge .deb's?
[11:40] <Geist|Patrick> whats wrong now :/
[11:40] <equex> if i mount my ntfs drive like this mount /dev/blah /mnt/windows -t ntfs -r -o umask=0222, how would that translate to fstab syntax ? just add two 0's at the end and remove "mount" ?
[11:40] <ubuntu> like often you don't need a .deb made specaliy for ubuntu?
[11:40] <derekvance> it worked, now every time i try to use root term, it says "failed to run /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator: child terminated with 1 status"
[11:41] <Seveas> ubuntu is indeed based on sarge
[11:41] <Seveas> but there are a lot of ubuntu-specific patches (thank god)
[11:41] <Seveas> ubuntu is indeed based on sid* i mean
[11:41] <pusling> hmm... etch is based on hoary ,)
[11:41] <derekvance> what does this mean
[11:41] <basic_> i've put kubuntu on my dads and sisters computers, works great for them out of the box
[11:41] <ubuntu> Seveas: but i can happly download sarge debs from all over the place?
[11:42] <pusling> ubuntu: if you are lucky...
[11:42] <ubuntu> Seveas: not allways but mostly