[00:15] <stgraber> asac: and uploading LXC now
[02:05] <smilejay> ...
[02:06] <mirach> ...
[03:58] <ChitKo> I lost keyboard in ubuntu touch Samsaung maguro . how can i fix ?
[03:59] <ChitKo> right now , i update and upgrade via adb shell
[05:00] <ChitKo> msg NickServ help
[06:09] <sasi_> hi did any one started porting ubuntu touch on any evaluation boards
[06:15] <sasi_> i am trying to port ubuntu-touch on a evaluation board and i stucked at "Enabling a new device" column in the porting guide plz suggest me
[08:33] <Rienzilha> goody
[08:33] <Rienzilha> does touch have an apt-store? (pun intended :))
[08:37] <RAOF> Yes; the click packages.
[10:36] <alex-abreu> daker, ping
[10:47] <daker> alex-abreu: pong
[10:51] <alex-abreu> daker, about the tabs, ... implementing the carousel in the tabs in tricky ... tried a few approaches w/o success, it quickly becomes messy and not easily controlable (unless we put constraints)
[10:51] <alex-abreu> daker, have you thought about it ?
[10:51] <daker> alex-abreu: you mean the infinite loop ?
[10:52] <alex-abreu> daker, yeah, ...
[10:52] <alex-abreu> daker, it is tricky to get right
[10:56] <daker> alex-abreu: no but i'll try
[10:57] <daker> alex-abreu: one thing i just notice
[10:57] <alex-abreu> daker, I'll see on my side too
[10:57] <alex-abreu> yup
[10:57] <daker> Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'querySelectorAll' of undefined tabs.js:372
[10:57] <alex-abreu> daker, on which example?
[10:57] <daker> alex-abreu: rss-reader
[10:57] <daker> trunk
[10:57] <alex-abreu> daker, ok, I'll have a look today
[10:57] <alex-abreu> ok
[10:59] <daker> alex-abreu: do you want me to file a bug?
[10:59] <alex-abreu> daker, sure if you can
[10:59] <alex-abreu> thx
[11:14] <daker> alex-abreu: for some unkown reason i am not getting it now :( (Heisenbug)
[11:15] <alex-abreu> daker, :)
[11:15] <daker> alex-abreu: we are also missing one part listview -> tabs sync
[11:16] <daker> we do have tabs ->  listview sync, listview ->  footer(via tabs) sync
[11:32] <pitti> if anyone cares for our tests succeeding: autopilot-gtk currently fails; review/approval of https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/autopilot-gtk/gtk-3.10/+merge/199437 appreciated
[12:19] <mandel> anyone around that can confirm that in img 73 in th nexus 7 you cannot install click packages?
[12:25] <pitti> ricmm: not that I want to annoy you, but do you think you'll have some time for https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/platform-api/test-backend/+merge/198098 this week still?
[12:27] <pitti> ricmm: it implements pretty much what we discussed, and tvoss already pointed out my bad C++ (and it's fixed)
[12:27] <gatox> mardy, ping
[12:28] <pitti> ricmm: so hopefully not much actual effort
[12:28] <gurrier_> Am I correct in saying Wifi does not work currently on mako on r70?  Got it working on grouper with r70.
[12:28] <mardy> gatox: hi! I'm on holiday, but if it's a quick thing I might still help :-)
[12:29] <gatox> mardy, ohh no, no problem then, it's now quick, i'll ping someone else, thx anyway
[12:29] <gurrier_> fresh install on mako today and no SSIDs visible.
[12:35] <gurrier_> Anything I can do to make wifi work on mako?  I'd be grateful for any tips or leads.
[12:58] <pitti> asac: green is *such* a wonderful color!
[13:03] <tvoss> pitti, +1
[14:09] <asac> pitti: :)
[14:09] <asac> all that matters
[14:12] <pitti> asac: ♩ Gruen, ja gruen sind alle meine test cases ♪ ♫
[14:12] <asac> please record that with your guitar :)
[14:28] <ogra_> pitti, WE'LL ALL BE JOBLESS !!!
[14:48] <ogra_> jhodapp, :P
[14:48] <jhodapp> ogra_, hehe
[14:48] <ogra_> :)
[15:59] <mhall119> mandel: hey, any chance an initial API for udm will be available by mid-January?  We're going to have another appdev contest, and it would be nice to encourage devs to use it
[16:01] <mandel> mhall119, I'm saying feb because I want to be conservative, but by goal is to have it asap, there is a lot done already here => lp:~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/add-general-methods
[16:01] <mandel> mhall119, I need to implement two more objects in C++ and will move to the SDK, so in theory I'm not far away
[16:04] <randomcpp> mhall119, another contest? :p
[16:04] <mhall119> randomcpp: yup :)
[16:05] <randomcpp> too bad I have exams from mid-jan to march D:
[16:05] <mhall119> mandel: that sounds great, let me know when you've got docs and I'll get them on developer.u.c/api/
[16:05] <Laney> a 6 week exam period?
[16:05] <Laney> that's pretty brutal
[16:05] <mhall119> randomcpp: 2.5 months of exams?
[16:05] <randomcpp> end-feb actually xD
[16:06] <mhall119> 1.5
[16:06] <randomcpp> 1.5 month
[16:06]  * mhall119 was counting all of March
[16:06] <mandel> mhall119, will do asap, and will consider dos a priority
[16:14] <Johnny> hello there
[16:15] <Guest71107> can somebody help me
[16:16] <timp> !ask
[16:18] <Guest71107> i want to flash my asus memo pad hd 7 but this is not listed in the "working on this devices" feed of the page, so my question is: can someone tell me if this device will be get an image for ubuntu touch for flashing my tablet?
[16:19] <Guest71107> !patience
[16:20] <Guest71107>  i want to flash my asus memo pad hd 7 but this is not listed in the "working on this devices" feed of the page, so my question is: can someone tell me if this device will be get an image for ubuntu touch for flashing my tablet?
[16:21] <mhall119> Chipaca: ping
[16:21] <Chipaca> mhall119: in a hangout, but pong
[16:21] <mhall119> Chipaca: I just have questions about the status of push notifications dev, if you have a few minutes after your hangout ping me back
[16:21] <Chipaca> mhall119: hangout is about push notifications :)
[16:22] <mhall119> then I'll get up-to-date answers :)
[16:23] <diwic> Guest71107, your device is not listed on the Touch/Devices page, which means that unless you know how to port the device yourself, it won't work.
[16:23] <Guest71107> but there is no way t change this, to get my device at this list?
[16:24] <diwic> Guest71107, I don't know how you can find somebody with the right knowledge to port the device for you.
[16:25] <diwic> Guest71107, xda developers maybe.
[16:26] <Guest71107> for example: if i can ask the developers of touch ubuntu if they can work oon this too how can i do ths?
[16:27] <ogra_> Guest71107, the "developers of ubuntu touch" only work on the nexus and emulator images ... you would have to find someone from the community to do a port
[16:28] <ogra_> (the developers then can merge the changes he/she sends, but will not actively work on other arches than the nexus ones)
[16:28] <Guest71107> ok do you know someone ?
[16:28] <ogra_> as diwic said, try the xda forums
[16:29] <ogra_> porting to a new device usually requires the developer to actually have the device since you need to do a bunch of trial and error debugging while doing the port
[16:31] <Guest71107> ok thx bye:)
[16:37] <Chipaca> mhall119: at your service
[16:42] <Chipaca> mhall119: or not, as you wish
[16:42]  * Chipaca poddles off
[16:42] <mhall119> Chipaca: now I'm on a hangout :)
[16:42] <mhall119> will ping you in about 15 minutes
[16:43]  * Chipaca sees a problem with this plan
[16:49] <tedg> mhr3_, Looking at this with pete-woods http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/dee/trunk/view/head:/src/dee-peer.c#L1013
[16:49] <tedg> mhr3_, Could we put a free function that added the g_ptr_array_unref in the idle?
[16:51] <mhr3_> tedg, no it's used in a different thread
[16:51] <tedg> Ah, bummer.
[16:52] <mhr3_> tedg, but the leak is micro, why do you care?
[16:52] <tedg> mhr3_, It happens once per search on HUD...
[16:52] <mhr3_> you create new model with each search?
[16:52] <tedg> Each search session.  So when you start a new search.
[16:53] <tedg> Not each character
[16:57] <mhr3_> tedg, well, just bug desrt to fix it :)
[16:57] <tedg> desrt, FIX ALL THE BUGS!
[16:57] <tedg> :-)
[17:05] <timp> dpm_: where do I report bugs about the online documentation?
[17:06] <timp> dpm_: images are missing in the layouts tutorial, for example http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/UbuntuUserInterfaceToolkit.ubuntu-layouts3/
[17:06] <timp> dpm_: there are statements in there like "The layout after resizing the window width to exceed 50 GU will look as follows:" but there are no images
[17:07] <Chipaca> mhall119: ahem
[17:07] <daker> timp: i think here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-api-website/
[17:09] <timp> daker: ok, thanks
[17:10] <timp> dpm_, daker I reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-api-website/+bug/1262289
[17:11] <mhall119> Chipaca: running lage
[17:11] <mhall119> late
[17:12] <dpm_> timp, sorry, just got off the phone. The best thing is to file a bug and to ping mhall119
[17:13] <timp> dpm_: ok.
[17:13] <timp> mhall119: I just reported this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-api-website/+bug/1262289
[17:13] <timp> dpm_: thanks
[17:17] <mhall119> timp: thanks, known issue
[17:17] <mhall119> Chipaca: I'm off now, if you have a minute
[17:18] <Chipaca> mhall119: i do
[17:18] <mhall119> Chipaca: it's less important now, I was going to use it in the engineering update broadcast, but that's canceled now
[17:19] <mhall119> Chipaca: I was mostly wondering when some initial client APIs will be available for the push notifications, so I can A) Get documentation online and B) promote it's use during the app showdown starting in January
[17:19] <Chipaca> mhall119: fwiw push server side is reaching mvp_dev, and we're working to have a dummy ping-pong on the image middle of january
[17:19] <Chipaca> mhall119: user-usable push notifications was descoped for 14.04
[17:19] <Chipaca> mhall119: that is, for 14.04, it's only system updates that get to use it
[17:20] <mhall119> :/
[17:20] <Chipaca> mhall119: yes
[17:20] <mhall119> Chipaca: what as the major concern for that?
[17:22] <Chipaca> mhall119: lack of confidence in our ability to deliver anything more given the other projects draining our time
[17:22] <mhall119> but if it exists for system updates, what would be missing to make it unusable for apps?
[17:23] <Chipaca> mhall119: well, for one, system updates are broadcast, so they're a special use case
[17:23] <Chipaca> mhall119: also system updates don't need an appdev-facing server api
[17:24] <mhall119> ah, ok, so it'll be a different API
[17:24] <Chipaca> mhall119: and the client-side api is much reduced, too
[17:25] <Chipaca> it'll be a subset of the api
[17:25] <mhall119> ok, makes sense
[17:25] <Chipaca> mhall119: we're not implementing the minimum service we need to get system updates notifications pushed to the phone; we're implementing the minimum of the generic push notifications service to implement system updates
[17:26] <mhall119> ok, so kind of line ubuntu-download-manager, system is the first use-case, then other apps
[17:26] <mhall119> kind of *like*
[17:27] <Chipaca> yaaarp
[17:27] <Chipaca> mhall119: in any case: we want it on the image by the middle of january :)
[17:29] <mhall119> Chipaca: well, that won't help me for the app showdown, but I understand the need for it being de-scoped
[17:29] <mhall119> thanks for the update Chipaca
[18:07] <tedg> jdstrand, Updated the branch to protect against dirs with colons in them.
[18:07] <jdstrand> thanks
[18:07] <jdstrand> tedg: I'll ask sarnold to look at your merge proposal too
[18:08] <tedg> Cool
[18:22] <pitti> sil2100: once https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/autopilot-gtk/test-improvements/+merge/199510 lands (should be every minute now), I'll need to land autopilot-gtk in trusty, it fixes the installer test crashes for jibel and also fixes the tests to run again (they are currently failing in trusty since the gtk 3.10 update)
[18:23] <pitti> sil2100: I understand ap-gtk was taken out of auto-landing, although it's not used on the phone?
[18:23] <kenvandine> ogra_, how do you feel about me seeding ubuntu-wallpapers for touch?
[18:23] <kenvandine> the ubuntu-art browser in system-settings isn't very useful without them
[18:23] <kenvandine> but i dont' want to add a depends, since eventually we'll have a different set of wallpapers for the devices
[18:24] <sil2100> pitti: hello! I can land it now, let me see what happened to ap-gtk - I'm not aware of it being removed from cu2d, we also handle non-touch releases as well
[18:24] <pitti> sil2100: hang on, I'd like to land this remaining MP in trunk first
[18:26] <sil2100> pitti: sure, just give me a sign once it's all ready and I'll push it :)
[18:26] <pitti> sil2100: I just can't edit the google docs to add it there
[18:26] <pitti> sil2100: sweet, thanks!
[18:26] <pitti> sil2100: btw, you did a really nice job this week, thank you!
[18:26] <pitti> sil2100: nice to see everything come together so nicely in the last week of this year
[18:26] <sil2100> pitti: ah, right... sorry for that, but actually I guess this we can do without the spreadsheet as it's desktop-specific
[18:27] <sil2100> pitti: thanks! I'm also really happy that we don't have any serious fire-fighting this week ;)
[18:27] <pitti> sil2100: right; I'd actually like it in autolanding again, if possible
[18:38] <pitti> sil2100: ah, it landed; so, everythign ready from my side
[18:39] <sil2100> \o/
[18:39] <sil2100> Ok, spinning
[18:40] <pitti> sil2100: OOI, "spinning" is "run the landing scripts which create a changelog, build the source, and upload"? (just curious)
[18:41] <sil2100> pitti: yes, it's running the cu2d build for the given component, making sure the check job passes and then confirming the changes and pressing the publish button if all is ok
[18:57] <KHendrik> Does anyone know what to do when you get the executable missing dialog when trying to build the "QML Extension Library + Tabbed Touch UI" Google does not seem to know?
[19:15] <sil2100> pitti: damn, it's waiting on a powerpc builder in our daily-build PPA
[19:19] <sil2100> pitti: ok, it started now ;)
[19:19] <pitti> \o/
[19:36] <sil2100> pitti: ok, now time to press the button! Since only you made packaging changes, our policy says: "pitti's changes don't require core-dev ACKing" ;) So published!
[19:36] <sil2100> pitti: it should appear in -proposed soon ;)
[19:37]  * sil2100 needs to go away now
[19:37] <sil2100> See you around!
[21:33] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[21:34] <OnkelTem> I'm installing Ubuntu on my Nexus 4 using http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/install manual
[21:35] <OnkelTem> Ten minuts ago I have launched `phablet-flash ubuntu-system --no-backup` and now I'm seeing the screen with Robot and question at the top:
[21:35] <OnkelTem> "ROM may flash stock recovery on boot. Fix?"
[21:35] <OnkelTem> What do I do?
[21:37] <OnkelTem> Come on :) I'm impatient!
[21:37] <OnkelTem> Show should I say No to one of many No's, or "Yes - Disable recovery flash"?
[21:37] <OnkelTem> s/Show/So
[21:37] <beuno> sergiusens, ^
[21:42] <OnkelTem> well, I've pressed Yes
[21:42] <fishscene> In looking at the milestone timeline, how does this work exactly? https://launchpad.net/mir/+series  Are these milestones reached "when it's ready" or is it by date? (In which case, there would be a milestone released ~24th of this month) ?
[21:42] <cwayne> OnkelTem, i think you should be using -b instead of --no-backup
[21:42] <OnkelTem> cwayne: I just used what that article said
[21:43] <cwayne> OnkelTem, yeah, i think it may be out of date since recently
[21:43] <fishscene> I updated phablet tools today and saw this message: "WARNING:phablet-flash:--no-backup is deprecated, use --bootstrap instead"
[21:43] <cwayne> yeah, -b and --bootstrap are the same :)
[21:44] <fishscene> oh. gotchya :)
[21:44] <sergiusens> OnkelTem, you missed the step of unlocking your phone
[21:44] <OnkelTem> sergiusens: nah, I did it
[21:44] <OnkelTem> sergiusens: at least I have been doing that :)
[21:44] <OnkelTem> I have Ubuntu running!!!!
[21:44] <OnkelTem> Ыыыыыы
[21:52] <Paladine> popey you there?
[21:54] <OnkelTem> Wi-Fi doesn't work on Nexus 4?
[21:54] <OnkelTem> I don't see networks
[21:56] <fishscene> According to 2 days ago, it works: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArLs7UPtu-hJdDZDNWliMmV1YUJ3Zk1pQlpDdGp4VFE&usp=sharing#gid=0
[21:57] <OnkelTem> strange. When I visit Settings > WiFi I see only "Auto-join previous networks" checkbox
[21:57] <OnkelTem> Also sound doesn't work
[21:57] <OnkelTem> and I can't call
[21:57] <OnkelTem> when I dial, I hear no sound
[21:57] <fishscene> OnkelTem: What channel did you use to flash?
[21:57] <pmcgowan> wifi works, are their any results in the indicator pulldown?
[21:58] <OnkelTem> fishscene: I used this command: phablet-flash ubuntu-system --no-backup
[21:58] <OnkelTem> fishscene: from this page http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/install
[21:58] <OnkelTem> Can I reflash with another version? Or rather - how can I do this?
[21:58] <pmcgowan> OnkelTem, thats the best version to get
[21:59] <pmcgowan> wifi and sound should be working for you
[21:59] <Paladine> can ask something, does Ubuntu Touch completely replace Android on the device or does it run on top of Android?
[21:59] <OnkelTem> pmcgowan: ok, then probably I do something wrong. But I see almost nothing what I can do here
[21:59] <Paladine> cos I am seriously considering buying a Nexus 4 and giving it a go if it removes android completely
[22:00] <pmcgowan> Paladine, it does replace android, but its possible to dual boot
[22:00] <fishscene> Paladine: As long as you understand that it is a work in progress and is seriously hampered for day-to-day use.
[22:00] <OnkelTem> pmcgowan: when I drop down top bar and scroll to Network tab I see only one line: "Cellular settings...". No WiFi at all
[22:00] <Paladine> well first of all I wouldn't want to dual boot, I would want to completely remove android
[22:00] <fishscene> err… hampered = not fully functional as a consumer-usable OS.
[22:01] <Paladine> secondly, so long as it can connect to wifi and make calls to start with ttya is all good for me
[22:01] <OnkelTem> the same when I visit System Settings. Wifi icon leads to empty screen with that one checkbox
[22:01] <Paladine> although I would love to customise it to make it a secure/privacy enhancing experience
[22:01] <pmcgowan> OnkelTem, check this page for better instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[22:02] <pmcgowan> you should go to a trusty channel
[22:02] <Paladine> I nearly picked up an iPhone 5S today but stopped myself at the last minute
[22:02] <OnkelTem> pmcgowan: ok thank you!
[22:02] <pmcgowan> sorry that other page needs updating
[22:02] <Paladine> I need to start looking at how I can get a privacy featured device which means android/wp and iOS are all a total no
[22:03] <Paladine> I presume things like iptables, openssl, openvpn etc can all be compiled into the rom?
[22:04] <fishscene> Paladine: I don't think any of those are available yet for Ubuntu-Touch.
[22:07] <pmcgowan> Paladine, well, by default we create a RO image, but it is possible to enable write and install any ubuntu package, you just need to be careful with updates as they use an image diff, not apt
[22:08] <Paladine> so technically it would be feasible to install things like full disk encryption (or at least userspace encryption), iptables, openvpn etc.
[22:09] <Paladine> pmcgowan, my thoughts are to create a fully functional device but without having to worry about 3rd party vendors (Apple, MS, Google) or Carriers (mobile and wifi) from "observing" one's activities
[22:10] <Paladine> throw NSA in there at any point
[22:10] <pmcgowan> right, much discussion on that of late
[22:10] <fishscene> Is there a way to get an md5 sum for the different channel images? As it stand right now, I am re-pulling images whether or not I need to because I have no way of checking if the image has changed or not.
[22:11] <pmcgowan> new images 99% of the time have changes - but cant you just use the system updater?
[22:12] <fishscene> pmcgowan: I'm working on a device flashing script. One where you can easily change channels, create device backups, etc..
[22:13] <pmcgowan> I see
[22:13] <pmcgowan> there is an md5sum for the image
[22:13] <pmcgowan> fishscene, http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
[22:14] <fishscene> Checking it out now..
[22:16] <pmcgowan> you can see how phablet-flash does it I would suspect
[22:17] <fishscene> I should double-check that. Last time I checked, if it detects files are already downloaded, it skipped them instead of checking to see if they were updated.
[22:24] <sergiusens> fishscene, files don't get updated; they are unique
[22:25] <sergiusens> fishscene, and the hash is taken from the channel info
[22:25] <sergiusens> fishscene, you can also check udbflash == go get launchpad.net/phablet-tools/udbflash
[22:25] <fishscene> sergiusens: Channel info?
[22:26] <sergiusens> fishscene, https://system-image.ubuntu.com/devel-proposed/maguro/index.json
[22:26] <sergiusens> fishscene, unless you mean cdimage builds
[22:26] <fishscene> oh nice.
[22:27] <sergiusens> which should be unique as well per path
[22:28] <sergiusens> fishscene, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-tools/ubuntuimage/view/head:/images.go#L119 and
[22:28] <sergiusens> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-tools/ubuntuimage/view/head:/types.go
[22:28] <fishscene> Well, here was my problem: A while back (September-ish), I was flashing my N7 once a week to get changes that were being described in notes, but I just wasn't seeing any changes. Eventually I discovered that the phablet tools saw I had downloaded an image and would keep flashing that instead of grabbing the updated image. So I worked my script to delete the local files so it would re-download, but that's not very efficient at all.
[22:29] <sergiusens> fishscene, you were probably not using image based updates? Or perhaps on the stable channel
[22:29] <fishscene> I was using the "devel" channel I believe.
[22:30] <sergiusens> fishscene, back in september I don't think that channel existed yet :-)
[22:30] <sergiusens> fishscene, http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/phablet-flash-in-golang/1297 and http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/emulator-setup/1350 might interest you
[22:31] <fishscene> I'm going to call you "Mr. Resource"
[22:32] <sergiusens> glad to help
[22:34] <OnkelTem> Ok, I've just Re-flashed my Nexus 4 with `phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel trusty` command. Everything went fine but nothing really works: still No Wi-Fi, no sound, no ability to make a call.
[22:34] <OnkelTem> Any ideas?
[22:35] <Chocanto> popey : Hey :)
[22:38] <pmcgowan> OnkelTem, not really, pull down the network icon and ensure wifi is enabled, make sure you SIM is inserted properly, etc - everything should be working fine
[22:39] <OnkelTem> pmcgowan: I don't see icon to enable/disable WiFi
[22:39] <OnkelTem> Looks like now it is disabled
[22:39] <OnkelTem> as it has a white cross over it's icon
[22:39] <pmcgowan> enable it and it should scan some aps
[22:40] <OnkelTem> pmcgowan: I do not know how to do this
[22:40] <OnkelTem> Where it is done?
[22:41] <Paladine> ok so it is decided am gonna buy a nexus 4 later this week, if I am not happy with ubuntu touch I can always run Guardian ROM until touch is a little more established
[22:41] <pmcgowan> OnkelTem, you see the icons along the top of the phone, pull down from the top over the netowrk icon
[22:42] <pmcgowan> you said it has a white cross?
[22:42] <pmcgowan> that seems wrong
[22:42] <OnkelTem> pmcgowan: ok. Now I see two icons joint - cellular and disabled wifi, big word "Network" on the next line, and "Cellular settings..." on the last line. The rest of the screen is empty
[22:43] <OnkelTem> yes, small white cross to the down-right of the icon
[22:43] <pmcgowan> OnkelTem, do you have a line with WiFi and a check box?
[22:43] <OnkelTem> no
[22:44] <pmcgowan> hmm
[22:44] <pmcgowan> OnkelTem, you said this is a nexus 4? did you just purchase it?
[22:44] <Paladine> pmcgowan, is there a working email client in the current build or would I have to add it myself and recompile?
[22:44] <pmcgowan> Paladine, no email client
[22:45] <OnkelTem> pmcgowan: yes, LG Nexus 4, puchased in a local store, Russia. I always get latest Google firmwares, never rooted my device and had no problems with it :)
[22:45] <pmcgowan> OnkelTem, sounds like its not detecting wifi at all
[22:45] <OnkelTem> yep, maybe. How to get into logs? I suspect I can use adb for that
[22:45] <pmcgowan> yes
[22:46] <OnkelTem> to do dmesg or something
[22:46] <pmcgowan> you can look at the syslog
[22:46] <pmcgowan> yep
[22:46] <pmcgowan> if awe_ is still around he could advise
[22:46] <OnkelTem> I'm there in the shell :) How easy
[22:49] <Paladine> ok gnite, but will be back pmcgowan :) will be back.... dun dun duuuuun
[22:50] <pmcgowan> hah great
[22:50] <Paladine> might pick up n4 tomorrow the store up the road has some in stock according to their web site
[22:50] <Paladine> which means I can flash it and have a play immediately :)
[22:51] <Paladine> gnite
[22:57] <OnkelTem> pmcgowan: heh, I have only 'lo' iface according to ifconfig
[22:58] <OnkelTem> also, a lot of disabled ifaces: rmnet[0-7], rmnet_smix0, rmnet_usb[0-3] and sit0
[22:59] <OnkelTem> Erm.. I tried to install a package using 'apt-get install' but it failed with error: E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[23:00] <OnkelTem> Why it is read-only?
[23:00] <awe_> pmcgowan, what's the question?
[23:00] <OnkelTem> awe_: hi! It was mine
[23:01] <OnkelTem> awe_: I just installed ubuntu-touch on my Nexus 4, but WiFi doesn't work. Also I can't call (I don't see anything).
[23:01] <OnkelTem> I used --channel trusty
[23:02] <awe_> OnkelTem, did it have KitKat (4.4) installed?
[23:02] <OnkelTem> 4.4.2
[23:02] <awe_> if so, the problem is the new firmware and radio software are not yet compatible with Ubuntu Touch
[23:02] <OnkelTem> oh
[23:02] <awe_> we haven't yet modified Touch to support 4.4
[23:03] <awe_> I know it's possible to flash the older software to get it working... let me see if I still have the post bookmarked
[23:05] <OnkelTem> awe_: if I do this, will the software be automatically upgraded when I rollback to 4.4.2?
[23:05] <awe_> OnkelTem, http://askubuntu.com/questions/380435/wifi-issue-on-nexus-4-16gb
[23:06] <awe_> OnkelTem, I don't think so...but I'm not the right person to ask.  I've personally never done this
[23:07] <OnkelTem> Well, anyway, I'm glad I finally tried Ubuntu Touch.
[23:07] <OnkelTem> I believe 4.4.x will be supported soon
[23:07] <awe_> correct
[23:07] <OnkelTem> then I'll retry again
[23:08] <OnkelTem> thank everybody! now I'm gonna downgrade to Android :)
[23:08] <awe_> that's probably the easiest/safest approach
[23:24] <daker> OnkelTem: you need to flash android 4.3, then flash Ubuntu Touch