I have a driver question
[12:01] <hangfire> malexander- try scite, its a good general purpose programming editor
[12:01] <rnalexander> noob here.
[12:01] <keleus> keep yer gnomes away from my underpants!
[12:01] <eyequeue> keleus, except you are in #ubuntu not #kubuntu ;-)
[12:01] <rnalexander> don't start giving me an argument on platforms already!
[12:01] <keleus> :) but my question was ubuntu based, if not better off in ##linux
[12:02] <travisty> My system wants to load ipw3945 for my wireless driver. How do I get it ti load ipw2200 instead?
[12:02] <rnalexander> weird.
[12:02] <Meglo> How do I use the mv command without deleting the source when I copy files
[12:02] <keleus> again... i find programs are binding themselves to ipv6 addresses and wrapping them in ipv4 (or something wierd like that - i can see the ipv4 address in the ipv6 string) - i have 2 computers on the LAN and the router is ipv4 only
[12:02] <rnalexander> it didn't ask me for a password when I sudo(ed) gedit.
[12:02] <keleus> how do i get rid of ipv6 without recompiling/downloading a new kernel?
[12:02] <lakcaj> anyone want to do me a quick favor?  #blender took my voice away because I was idle for some time.  Could somebody join #blender and ask them to give me voice back?
[12:03] <eyequeue> keleus, i can't address your actual question, but i can tell you that disabling ipv6 *in firefox* is addressed on the forums, if that helps
[12:03] <shahim> Hello everyone! I have a question about apt preferences
[12:03] <gekko`> Meglo: you use cp for that
[12:03] <Meglo> ah
[12:03] <keleus> eyequeue: probably not, but i appreciate it
[12:03] <eyequeue> rnalexander, sudo only asks every 15 min
[12:03] <shahim> the man page talkes about archives and other items to use for pinning but the release file in ubuntu doesn't have an archive line.
[12:03] <eyequeue> rnalexander, if you sudoed recently, that's not reason for alarm, heh
[12:04] <rnalexander> Ok, ladydoor, many more successes, still a few failures, pasting output and lists now.
[12:04] <ladydoor> rnalexander: cool
[12:05] <rnalexander> ladydoor ok, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24719
[12:09] <dant-gone> is there away to reinstall ubuntu, but not loose all the apps that are already installed?
[12:09] <HTGN-css|Silent_> hey guys
[12:09] <ladydoor> rnalexander: ok, as i said before, please but gb. in front of the appropriate lines in your sources.list (as in your old one)
[12:09] <ladydoor> rnalexander: *put, not but
[12:09] <rnalexander> Will do!
[12:09] <tonyyarusso> dant-gone: There's a way to save a list of the installed packages, and redo them on a new install.  Would that work for you?
[12:10] <HTGN-css|Silent_> where would I find some good newbie info on runlevels and init.d? I'm trying to get a server to run on startup by root that's accessible to users via screen
[12:10] <HTGN-css|Silent_> is this possible?
[12:10] <Arrick> tonyyarusso, probably wants all the config files backed up too
[12:10] <dant-gone> tonyyarusso: im more concerned about save all the settings for cups/samba and wine
[12:10] <eyequeue> HTGN-css|Silent_, one, the info i'm about to give you wil be obsoleted in a few months
[12:10] <Arrick> dant-gone, copy all your config fils to disc for backup
[12:10] <rnalexander> damnit.  I sudoed into the editor and I can't find my users' desktop, one sec.  I'm a dork.
[12:11] <dant-gone> Arrick: true
[12:11] <tonyyarusso> dant-gone, Arrick: Backing up /etc should do most of that, right?  Anywhere else those things are put?
[12:11] <ladydoor> !language
[12:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:11] <eyequeue> HTGN-css|Silent_, two, ubuntu (and debian) don't really use runlevels, 2 3 4 and 5 re identical, and 2 is default
[12:11] <Arrick> dant-gone, then when you reinstall the apps, you just copy those files in and there you go, its done
[12:11] <dant-gone> all i really want to do is get my desktop to how it was when it was first installed...it had links to my mounted partitions, but now some are missing and i cant get them back
[12:11] <HTGN-css|Silent_> is this possible?
[12:12] <HTGN-css|Silent_> why is that obsolete?
[12:12] <Arrick> dant-gone, are your partitions mounted?
[12:12] <rnalexander> EEEP!  Very sorry,
[12:12] <Arrick> open terminal and type in mount
[12:12] <Arrick> dant-gone, ^^
[12:12] <eyequeue> HTGN-css|Silent_, edgy (dapper+1) uses upstart, not sysvinit, hence myfirst caution :)  but basically anyone referring to "runlevels" in here is usually talking from an rpm-based distro perspective
[12:12] <dant-gone> Arrick: they aer mounted...but they links dont show up on my desktop
[12:12] <ladydoor> rnalexander: sorry, i've got to go. good luck!
[12:12] <jose> con quien hablo
[12:12] <Arrick> then see if they are there, if not, you just need to remount and they should sho back up on the desktop
[12:12] <dant-gone> Arrick: i have 2 vfat partitions and 2 ntfs ones, the ntfs ones arent showing up
[12:13] <eyequeue> HTGN-css|Silent_, all that said, have i clarified or confused you? :)
[12:13] <Caplain> how do i set my resolution?
[12:13] <dant-gone> Arrick: im thinking soemthing changed in the fstab but i dont have the original fstab to compare it to
[12:13] <jose> no hay nadie que hable espaol
[12:13] <Arrick> dant-gone, possibly change your fstab so you can read them? its just a rights issue
[12:13] <rnalexander> Thanks LD!
[12:13] <jlkenyon2012> Hey, I was wondering if there is simple way of setting up dual monitor support in K/Ubunutu, or if hacking the xorg.conf is still the normal method for setting it up
[12:13] <Arrick> post if and someone in here can help you out in a hurry, dant-gone this is not a reinstall issue
[12:13] <gekko`> !es > jose
[12:14] <dant-gone> /dev/hdb5       /media/hdb5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[12:14] <Arrick> post it to pastebin
[12:14] <Arrick> the whole thing
[12:14] <dant-gone> Arrick: i know its not a reinstall issue...just an easy way out issue
[12:14] <jose> hola gekko
[12:14] <breery> hi guys im having a slight problem with the sound. it doesnt come on even on start up
[12:14] <Arrick> hah
[12:14] <Caplain> jlkenyon2012: hack xorg.conf
[12:14] <Roger_The_Bum> yeah I'm having the same problem as breery
[12:14] <rnalexander> gack, more erros than before.
[12:14] <Arrick> DBO, what do you see wrong with dant-gone s fstab post?
[12:15] <Arrick> for him to view it?
[12:15] <rnalexander> Anyone else want to pick up where ladydoor left off?
[12:15] <jose> solo puedo escribir, no puedo hablar
[12:15] <ajax4> Hey guys...I can't install the xorg-dev package because of some dependency problems. The problem seems to be with the libfontconfig1 package, which apt says is broken. Can someone help me verify this?
[12:15] <dant-gone> wow..pastebin is a little slow today
[12:16] <Arrick> someone show mw a typical fstab section for being able to view a ntfs formated partition with all users?
[12:16] <Arrick> please
[12:16] <gekko`> Arrick: sure
[12:16] <DBO> /dev/sdb5	/media/windata	ntfs	ro,user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000	0	3    <--- Arrick
[12:17] <dant-gone> Arrick: http://pastebin.ca/181421   <--- the whole fstab
[12:17] <Arrick> "ro,user,auto,fmask=0177,dmask=0077,uid=1000 0 1" dant-gone put this in there starting at "defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1"
[12:18] <Arrick> replace what is in yours with this first section
[12:18] <dant-gone> Arrick: isnt ro read only?
[12:18] <Max_-> ... happy problem here...   got a 17 inches screen (widescreen) and the only things gnome offers me are 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768...  what can I do?
[12:18] <Arrick> ntfs is read only in linux
[12:18] <Arrick> always
[12:18] <pennypacker> edit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[12:18] <Samuli^> not my ntfs, but without special care, yes.
[12:18] <TheH> hey Max I have a similar problem with a 37 inch hdtv
[12:19] <hondje> TheH: Curious, what does ddcprobe say about an hdtv? I'm curious if it'd work
[12:19] <TheH> I want the image is to overscan, and I can use normal resolutions
[12:19] <pennypacker> then begin the quest for the correct modeline
[12:19] <TheH> what's  ddcprobe? I just got ti to work right now, it took 3 days of xorg editing
[12:20] <dant-gone> Arrick: k... did the umount/mount -a and only the vfat ones are still showing up
[12:20] <Max_-> brb later, if you have a solution please pm it to me!!!
[12:20] <hondje> TheH: Just asks the monitors for things like modelines and timing and sync ranges
[12:20] <ClayG> anyone here know of a good broadband-for-laptop solution?
[12:20] <lws> Does anybody know a good howto on hosing a wireless access point under Ubuntu?
[12:20] <squidgy>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY microsoft
[12:20] <hondje> TheH: It's informational, it doesn't actually change anything. I'm curious if it'd work on an hdtv
[12:20] <ClayG> i want something like verizon's card but dont want to spend that much
[12:20] <ClayG> awsome squidgy
[12:20] <dad> how do i recover ubuntu after a windows install?
[12:21] <pennypacker> haha
[12:21] <pennypacker> sry
[12:21] <lws> I just bought a wireless card and want to have my linux box act as a WAP
[12:21] <TheH> do I need to type that on termina? I'm new to ubuntu, migrating from windows
[12:21] <squidgy> heh.
[12:21] <TheH> terminal
[12:21] <ClayG> lol
[12:21] <ClayG> oops
[12:21] <dant-gone> lol
[12:21] <Arrick> dant-gone, that should have fixed it for you, hang on
[12:21] <hondje> TheH: Yes, like 'sudo ddcprobe' ... I'd do it myself, but I lack an hdtv to test it with
[12:21] <dant-gone> Arrick: its monting, but the links just arent showing up
[12:21] <eyequeue> dad, probably reinstall grub
[12:22] <TheH> ok let me see
[12:22] <Arrick> ok, hang tight
[12:22] <boitono> I am looking for a simple utility like netmeeting only for linux
[12:22] <eyequeue> dad, sudo update-grub, if you can boot to ubuntu fom a rescue cd
[12:22] <boitono> any ideas?
[12:22] <dad> i made a grub boot floppy
[12:22] <hondje> ddcprobe is nice, it beats the hell out of googling your monitors hsync and the like
[12:22] <dad> but i don't know what to do with it
[12:23] <ciplogic> Hi all, I have an Ati X700 and I have following problems: poor performance using composite (is lower performance than a GF2 Mx 200 at Compiz), I setup a dual-view display, question, I can go the mouse only in first display, the second one has a different GNOME and I don't know how to move windows to it. In Windows I can drag-drop in different displays, any ideas?
[12:23] <breery> ny1 say nytin 2 u yet?
[12:23] <kmitch87> boitono: try ekiga softphone, it comes with ubuntu
[12:23] <lws> Can anyone hear me?
[12:23] <rnalexander> Does anyone else have any idea where I can go to get help / look for it?
[12:23] <rnalexander> Please?
[12:23] <JDStone> ciplogic: welcome to ATI cards under Linux
[12:23] <kmitch87> rnalexander: try ubuntuforums.org
[12:24] <dant-gone> JDStone: lol
[12:24] <JDStone> especially the newer ones
[12:24] <rnalexander> Ok, thanks kmitch!
[12:24] <lupine_85>  boitono: there's also gnome-meeting :p
[12:24] <erUSUL> lws: only a few wireless drivers support acting as AP. Search google for docs on hostap
[12:24] <breery> ny1 have ny idea on how 2 fix sound problems?
[12:24] <erUSUL> !sound
[12:24] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:24] <ciplogic> JDStone: there is nothing to change? I thought that the jump from 5200 to X700 is a great jump :)
[12:24] <lws> erUSUL: Are you kiding?
[12:25] <dantrag> ciplogic: ati has poor support under linux
[12:25] <pennypacker> nvidia works great
[12:25] <dantrag> ciplogic: the card may be better, but a 5200 is supported better with linux
[12:25] <MugginsM> nvidia doesn't always work great
[12:25] <pennypacker> for me
[12:25] <JDStone> ciplogic: I don't know.  dont' ask me
[12:25] <ClayG> anyone here have a hp dv2000 laptop?
[12:25] <ClayG> I'm thinking of getting one but want to see how it handles ubuntu
[12:25] <ciplogic> dantrag: It's ugly then, I'll use the 3D from Vista or Windows :(
[12:25] <HOT> not really a support question but i am interested, what is this so called "realtime" ubuntu release in the pipeline, would like to understand more
[12:25] <MugginsM> whereas the OSS nv driver does
[12:26] <Teller> Hi! Where do I change my locale system wide?
[12:26] <squidgy> Howdy.  I'm trying to mimic Windows' behavior in regard to using an external monitor (a projector) from my laptop.  I want to plug in an external monitor, hit a key, and have it mirror what's on my laptop's LCD screen.  Any hints?
[12:26] <TheH> how can I underscan a resolution for my tv? picture is to overscan..Using 6600gt on hdtv
[12:26] <ClayG> squidgy, change your password
[12:26] <Arrick> did dant-gone leave?
[12:26] <breery> thanks d speakers were muted in d ALSA menu, no idea how
[12:26] <erUSUL> lws: http://hostap.epitest.fi/
[12:26] <TheH> anyhelp?
[12:26] <dantrag> Arrick: no
[12:26] <Teller> I need ISO8859-1 instead of UTF-8
[12:26] <dantrag> Arrick: i wasnt gone anymore :P
[12:26] <Arrick> dantrag, ok, you changed your name on me
[12:26] <MugginsM> squidgy: realtime usually means that the software is guaranteed to respond to an event within a specified time
[12:26] <dantrag> Arrick: sorry
[12:27] <ciplogic> squidgy: Use a non-dual head settings
[12:27] <MugginsM> for example, if you're reading data in from some sort of device (video) current Linux might suddenly decide to go do something else and you'll get jumps and skips
[12:27] <kmitch87> ClayG: try tuxmobil.org for laptop info on linux
[12:27] <ClayG> anyone here up on the latest amd and intel cpus?
[12:27] <ciplogic> squidgy: at least to me until I've setup the dual-displays config, I have a mirror of the screen
[12:27] <Arrick> dantrag, there has to be a way to tell the drive to show up on desktop, but with me not using dapper its not an easy thing other that the fstab for me to help out with it
[12:27] <lws> erUSUL: How do i tell whether or not that supports something I bought?
[12:27] <ClayG> thanks kmitch87
[12:27] <dantrag> Arrick: what version are you running?
[12:28] <Arrick> I run breezy
[12:28] <erUSUL> lws: for acting as AP: http://hostap.epitest.fi/hostapd/
[12:28] <dantrag> Arrick: ah..ok
[12:28] <lws> erUSUL: How do I tell if my card is one of those?
[12:28] <buker> j/ #ubuntu-es
[12:28] <TheH> how can I underscan a resolution for my tv? picture is to overscan..Using 6600gt on hdtv, Thx
[12:28] <squidgy> ciplogic:  if I plug in an external monitor, then the only way I can get X to talk to it is by restarting X, in which case it ignores my laptop display.
[12:28] <Arrick> there has to be a way in the filemanager to set it up though
[12:28] <HOT> MugginsM: was me that asked, good answer, i presume its for mission critical things
[12:28] <MugginsM> oh right, scrolled too fast :)
[12:28] <MugginsM> hot: well it can give you things like smoother video, for example
[12:29] <Axidus> hello
[12:29] <dantrag> Arrick: thats something i cant find, where do i access the filemanager settings?
[12:29] <MugginsM> but yeah, if you're controlling a robot on a production line and someone steps out in front of the robot, you don't want your controller to be busy fetching email at the time and not notice
[12:29] <erUSUL> lws: lspci maybe. Card specs. the driver that can act as AP are madwifi (atheros) y prism54 2 2.5 3
[12:29] <squidgy> ciplogic:  my laptop's normal switch-to-external-display hotkey has no effect.
[12:29] <MugginsM> the linux kernel does have some good realtime extensions to do that stuff, but they need to be set up and the distro needs to know how to work with them
[12:30] <Axidus> Dude I don't know if you like to work from home or thought about it, but go here....check this out http://www.automaticbuilder.com/sanchezgroup
[12:30] <Axidus> this guy is cool...i'm doing it
[12:30] <Axidus> making good money too , extra and stuff
[12:30] <HOT> MugginsM: so it will be certified realtime, i have some small sun grid apps that could really make use of that...not sure how they can "prove" the delivery
[12:30] <n|ko> hi everyone
[12:30] <Axidus> I do that on the weekends...easy money
[12:30] <lws> erUSUL: 0000:01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 010)
[12:30] <lws> erUSUL: like that one?
[12:31] <n|ko> i need more permission on my computer
[12:31] <MugginsM> hot: the realtime bit is quite small, so it's fairly well known, the biggest problem is really that standard PC hardware isn't realtime
[12:31] <eyequeue> Axidus, don't spam here please
[12:31] <ciplogic> squidgy: I am not an expert of that, but I remember that on my computer only making a dual-display xorg-conf makes to not have a mirror, but there is no way (at least on my computer) to switch between displays and I cannot help no futher in that
[12:31] <MugginsM> but you can guarantee response within some useful amounts of time for most things
[12:31] <Axidus> sorry just trying to help out
[12:31] <n|ko> when i install ubuntu it didn't ask me for root password
[12:31] <Axidus> is there an irc channel I can go to for work from home?
[12:31] <lupine_85> no root password by default
[12:32] <erUSUL> lws: yes you are a lucky person after all ;)
[12:32] <lupine_85> sudo uses your user password to make you root
[12:32] <HOT> *nods* i will look into it, the biggest issue i am having with my grid system is telling it what the time actually is
[12:32] <lupine_85> (gksudo for GUI apps)
[12:32] <lws> erUSUL: hooray.  I was worried.. I'm sure though it still won't work now :P haha
[12:32] <n|ko> i try it
[12:32] <HOT> MugginsM: sound simple but its the hardest question i have faced in a project for years
[12:32] <Arrick> ask everyone, dantrag as I said I am not familiar with dapper, so I relly cant help you out on the rest of it
[12:32] <eyequeue> HOT, ntpdate?
[12:32] <ClayG> I'm thinking of getting one but want to see how it handles ubuntu
[12:33] <HOT> eyequeue: not good enough i am afraid
[12:33] <MugginsM> hot: yeah, distributed stuff is hard :)
[12:33] <n|ko> dosen't work
[12:33] <lws> erUSUL: Now I have to figure out how to set it up though
[12:33] <eyequeue> HOT, oh well, the only idea i had
[12:33] <HOT> eyequeue: i am asking bristol university if i can borrow some atomic devices for ntp calibration
[12:33] <HOT> still, its a bugger
[12:33] <MugginsM> even things like ethernet aren't all that good for realtime stuff
[12:34] <erUSUL> lws: Good luck https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=madwifi&titlesearch=T%C3%ADtulos
[12:34] <no0tic> how can I make my sd card reader work under kubuntu? 0000:08:06.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments 5-in-1 Multimedia Card Reader (SD/MMC/MS/MS PRO/xD)
[12:34] <lupine_85> plug it in
[12:34] <lupine_85> erm, that's it
[12:35] <eyequeue> i can envision the day when even multi-core machines will be effected by the internal lag on the bus
[12:35] <lupine_85> cards usually show up as /dev/sd??
[12:35] <eyequeue> it used to be a 1 second granularity wasn't an issue, those days are gone
[12:36] <no0tic> lupine_85, it doesn't work...
[12:36] <HOT> eyequeue: the problem i face is nics have a slightly different "tick tock" rate in the tcp stack, so asking a machine what network time it is, comes across as meaningless
[12:36] <no0tic> lupine_85, I've tried inserting an SD card but /var/log/messages doesn't tell me anything
[12:36] <lupine_85> it won't
[12:36] <lupine_85> try mounting /dev/sda
[12:36] <TheH> how can I underscan a resolution for my tv? picture is to overscan..Using 6600gt on hdtv, Thx
[12:36] <MugginsM> ethernet and especially tcp are no good for precise timing anyway
[12:36] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, try /dev/sda1
[12:37] <eyequeue> HOT, yeah, i can see that.  seeing how to get past it though, i'm not good enough for :/
[12:37] <HOT> like i said earlier the most difficult question i have been asked recently was "what time is it" :)
[12:37] <dantrag> Arrick: well..i found where to turn on/off the volumes on the desktop...but it doesnt let me select which i can view
[12:37] <no0tic> lupine_85, sorry, but every time I plug in an usb device it tells me something...
[12:37] <lupine_85> the usb device is already plugged in, though
[12:37] <no0tic> lupine_85, I'm going to try now
[12:37] <HOT> thats why this realtime stuff kind of interests me, i think i am barking up the wrong tree though
[12:37] <lupine_85> all you're doing is the equiv. of putting a floppy in
[12:37] <eyequeue> HOT, i can also see the challenges there must be a lot of fun, if you're the type :)  even though frustrating
[12:38] <no0tic> lupine_85, let's try
[12:39] <no0tic> lupine_85, sda doesn't work
[12:39] <HOT> oh yea its a very fun question, i am not frustrated by it at all, really good learning curve, and i can say with no doubt almost all nix variants do time better than any nt kernel i have seen
[12:39] <HOT> very impressive stuff really
[12:39] <TheH> Anyone can help me with HDTV issue?? I have been everywhere on this, no luck
[12:39] <no0tic> lupine_85, ehm... sda is my first hd, :)
[12:39] <no0tic> lupine_85, i'll try sdb
[12:39] <lupine_85> so try sdb :p
[12:39] <MugginsM> hot: are timer cards expensive?
[12:39] <lupine_85> ls /dev/sd* will get you a full list
[12:40] <no0tic> lupine_85, only sda :(
[12:40] <no0tic> lupine_85, my sathda
[12:40] <imperfect-> Howdy...
[12:40] <no0tic> lupine_85, my sata hd
[12:40] <eyequeue> HOT, i'll presume bristol means .uk, is there perhaps anything useful out of nasa.gov on time issues?
[12:40] <imperfect-> Anyone know how I can get a 2.6.18 kernel on dapper?
[12:40] <TheH> Can anyone help me with HDTV issue?? I have been everywhere on this, no luck
[12:40] <imperfect-> are there packages yet?
[12:40] <HOT> not really but getting them running can be, my grid uses redhat enterprise, its not really that usefull when it comes to kernel module changes
[12:40] <lupine_85> bah, dunno then. "It works here"
[12:40] <eyequeue> imperfect-, no, nor will there be.  fixes tend to be backported
[12:41] <lupine_85> imperfect-: this is dapper :p. build your own if desperate
[12:41] <eyequeue> imperfect-, even edgy will only release with .17
[12:41] <imperfect-> Yeah.
[12:41] <imperfect-> Well I need it.
[12:41] <dad> I put in made a boot cd that boots into grub, then went to http://sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore, I did everything it said, but now i can't boot into anything but bash, can someone help?
[12:41] <imperfect-> Unfortunately.
[12:41] <no0tic> lupine_85, the same device?
[12:41] <lupine_85> lots of different devices
[12:41] <lupine_85> even one in my printer
[12:41] <TheH> Can anyone help me with HDTV issue?? I have been everywhere on this, no luck, Please?
[12:41] <HOT> eyequeue: bristol have some atomic calibration devices they can use to get down to pico alignment, from what i understand it measures its own time reference using atomic decay, very accurate stuff
[12:42] <no0tic> lupine_85, ok, I'm not lucky
[12:42] <alpha-wolf> good evening
[12:42] <cello_rasp> how do get the php binary??
[12:42] <MugginsM> hot: get too accurate and you find your larger servers run slower due to gravity :)
[12:42] <avenger__> I'll find out
[12:42] <Raz`> Anyone help me? I'm not sure how to get my Audigy 2 to work under Linux
[12:42] <HOT> MugginsM: heh :)
[12:42] <eyequeue> HOT, cool.  i was just wondering of the cluster folk at nasa might have written some tips based on their travails, heh
[12:42] <Raz`> No drivers on creative's site :(
[12:42] <Who_> cello rasp: search for php in 'Synaptic Package Manager' and choose to install it
[12:42] <lws> erUSUL: do you have an atheros card?
[12:42] <imperfect-> Is there a patch for 2.6.15 that helps with the P965 chipset issues w/ the JMicron controller?
[12:42] <cello_rasp> Raz` my audigy 2 works ok on dapper
[12:43] <Raz`> Well I'm getting system sounds cello
[12:43] <Pierre> Raz`, audigy 2 works out of the box with a decent kernel, it works here with Dapper
[12:43] <Raz`> but JuK isn't playing audio
[12:43] <cello_rasp> Raz` drivers in kernel
[12:43] <alpha-wolf> can someone give me a little advice? I have installed apache2 and would like the home folder to be /home/alpha/server/htdocs but cannot figure out where to put this??
[12:43] <HOT> eyequeue: i will look into that actually, currently i am speaking to the guy that looks after stratum devices at BrI, he seems to know his stuff but he agrees its voodoo, not so much defining a point in time over the lan but stopping drift
[12:44] <cello_rasp> if you are getting sounds it is another software issue, and the drivers obviously work fine
[12:44] <Raz`> Anyone recommend a good mp3 player to me, then?
[12:44] <cello_rasp> Raz`xmms
[12:44] <Raz`> May just be that prograam
[12:44] <Raz`> k
[12:44] <m0> hehe
[12:44] <eyequeue> HOT, yeah, not deprecating what you have a bristol at all mind you, just thinking that sometimes an alternate perspective sometimes sheds light :)
[12:44] <Who_> anyone good on trouble shooting disk problems
[12:44] <TheH> Can anyone help me with HDTV issue?? I have been everywhere on this, no luck, Please?
[12:44] <m0> people are jealous for my operating system :p
[12:44] <m0> on my laptop
[12:44] <HOT> eyequeue: the current solution floated as i understand it, is a kind of token ring using fibre, but its dedicated to time "pulses" and nothing else
[12:44] <m0> Everone is saying how did I do that :)
[12:45] <eyequeue> m0, it is ubuntu?
[12:45] <TheH> does some one here has configure a HD TV on ubuntu?
[12:46] <TheH> or I'm the only one
[12:46] <eyequeue> hard drive television?
[12:46] <cello_rasp> TheH i think you are the only one
[12:46] <m0> eyequeue: yes
[12:46] <imperfect-> is compiling a vanilla kernel a bad idea on dapper?
[12:46] <TheH> HD LCD
[12:46] <eyequeue> m0, cool, a great opportunity to give out cds :)
[12:46] <TheH> that suck, I can't get any help, no where
[12:47] <m0> eyequeue: I am the computer club president on my University
[12:47] <cello_rasp> cant expect community support when hardly anyone has an HDTV let alone linux users :|
[12:47] <m0> eyequeue: I would do that... But we don't have money to buy cds'
[12:47] <eyequeue> m0, or, if cute, volunteer to help ;-)
[12:47] <m0> eyequeue: how do we volunteer
[12:47] <fernando> i am having problems with my vmware server i cant run a guest operatins system i need help
[12:47] <imperfect-> I dunno
[12:47] <alpha-wolf> can someone give me a little advice on setting up apache2??
[12:47] <imperfect-> I've got a HDTV
[12:47] <imperfect-> And I use linux.
[12:47] <TheH> I'm not expecting just wanna to see if some one knows, cuz there is documentation but I can;t get it to work that way
[12:47] <imperfect-> shrug
[12:47] <m0> eyequeue: freebsd wanted us to help them
[12:47] <m0> eyequeue: but I really didn't wnat to help hehe
[12:48] <eyequeue> m0, i was joking about if the person was cute, a way to get to know him/her, heh
[12:48] <vidar> If I have Windows already installed on a system, can Ubuntu, during the install, repartition the drive?
[12:48] <HOT> fernando: any error message?
[12:48] <fernando> yes
[12:48] <m0> eyequeue: I am helping MySQL
[12:48] <cello_rasp> imperfect- maybe you and TheH can egt 2gether and balze some trails for the reat of us
[12:48] <m0> to promote MySQL on cmapus
[12:48] <m0> eyequeue: is there any form to sign ? To get promotional items?
[12:48] <HOT> fernando: just give me the basics
[12:48] <TheH> Oh yes I will when I get this woprking, I have lear alot on xrog config for HD but now I just nee to fix th overscan and I'm done
[12:49] <TheH> I will be glad to do that
[12:49] <eyequeue> m0, just a moment and i will get you a link, no need to sign anything, brb
[12:49] <fernando> Cannot find a serial number to unlock this version of VMware Server.
[12:49] <fernando> Please ask your system administrator to run "vmware-config.pl"
[12:49] <fernando> and enter the serial number. For more information, please read
[12:49] <fernando> the INSTALL file in VMware Server's documentation directory.
[12:49] <m0> eyequeue: alright
[12:49] <cello_rasp> neat
[12:49] <Max_-> well... I'm still stuck with  640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768...  what can I do?  please <:)
[12:49] <fernando> but i put the serial # that i downloaded but it still does not work
[12:49] <cello_rasp> hey grandma im a linux advocate
[12:49] <HOT> fernando: you need to get a serial number from the vmware site, register email and password (and a few more things) and it will give you a new one on request
[12:49] <TheH> Imperfect: did you had overscan issues?
[12:49] <eyequeue> m0, start here, and yes, it is all free :)  https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[12:50] <cello_rasp> night
[12:50] <HOT> fernando: the old serials expire over 45 days i beleive
[12:50] <m0> eyequeue: do they look for uni reps?
[12:50] <fernando> this is the serial # that i got from registering
[12:50] <DracIIci> I have a  VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60) onboard. Alsamixer can manipulate it, but I get no sound out of it. Here is the output of amixer: http://pastebin.com/793680   --  Any ideas?
[12:50] <HOT> fernando: if you grab the latest build, vmware is free totally now
[12:51] <eyequeue> m0, yes, do tell them you are the head of the computer club, so they will see your request for a larger number of cds as reasonable
[12:51] <HOT> fernando: let me be exact, vmware server is free, but you DO need to get the latest version and a new serial
[12:51] <m0> eyequeue: alright nice...
[12:51] <eyequeue> m0, what part of .ca are you in?
[12:51] <m0> eyequeue: Ottawa
[12:51] <fernando> can you remote assistance from were your at
[12:51] <HOT> m0, i sent off for about 50 CD's, they came and i dont get any junk mail or anything, seems very good
[12:51] <boitono> I am looking for a piece of software similar in function to netmeeting, I need a whiteboard, I have tried ekiga and it does not have a white board. any ideas?
[12:52] <m0> eyequeue: hot: hmm http://www.campusinteractive.com
[12:52] <eyequeue> m0, i think there is a "LoCo team" in TO, but i don;t know of one in ottawa, sorry
[12:52] <alpha-wolf> heh, I dont wanna be a pest in asking this again and again, but a little help with setting up apache would be appreciated...
[12:53] <m0> alpha-wolf: isnt' in synaptic?/
[12:53] <eyequeue> m0, seriously, i know they would be thrilled to hear of what you are doing there, just send them off a brief email summarizing :)  even i (in .us) am happy to hear of it :)  and i thank you too :)
[12:53] <m0> eyequeue: I am opening up a opensource division :x lol
[12:54] <m0> My goal this year is to try getting freshmans... I am graduating and I don't want something to die
[12:54] <Raz`> anyone know how to disable shift+backspace? it's not in keyboard shortcuts and it's driving me up the wall :(
[12:54] <alpha-wolf> mo:I have it installed, but am having difficulty in figuring out how to point it at /home/alpha/server/htdocs for the website
[12:54] <^Z3D^> is there a program i can use to clock my CPU
[12:54] <alpha-wolf> sorry I am a bit of a newb
[12:54] <m0> alpha-wolf: you have to edit the httpd.conf
[12:54] <HOT> whenever i have a client with a windows problem the very first thing i do is give them a CD as a "recovery" option, they seem to play with it all the time after that
[12:54] <HTGN-css|Silent_> z3d, overclock?
[12:54] <m0> alpha-wolf: you could ask in #apache you can get an answer quickly
[12:55] <eyequeue> HOT, clever :)
[12:55] <^Z3D^> no, whenever i do a "lshw" it say it is running at 1ghz, but it is a 2 ghz cpu
[12:55] <HOT> Raz: solution is on forum for sure, i used a script in fact....let me see...
[12:55] <alpha-wolf> mo:thanks
[12:56] <ndo> euhm
[12:56] <m0> alpha-wolf: np,
[12:56] <pilgrim> Anyone know: how do I synch my palm with evo 2.6?
[12:56] <HTGN-css|Silent_> z3d, that is a bios issue
[12:56] <HOT> raz: xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server"
[12:56] <ndo> n1 in da house? ;)
[12:56] <HTGN-css|Silent_> !bios
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <HTGN-css|Silent_> wow
[12:56] <^Z3D^> ill double check but im pretty sure it is set correctly
[12:56] <HOT> put it in /usr/local/bin and run it as a session command
[12:56] <HTGN-css|Silent_> I can't believe that
[12:57] <fatbrain> !rar
[12:57] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:57] <ndo> yea, hehe, all are in da house, okey , nice, like ellow all and i stfu to dont disturb , hrhrh :P
[12:59] <fatbrain> what's the url to 6.06 multiverse?
[12:59] <erUSUL> lws: no, sorry i use a ralink 2500
[12:59] <lws> erUSUL: Hmm okay
[12:59] <Mikel0> !rar
[12:59] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:59] <Raz`> shift-backspace is the DEVIL
[12:59] <lws> erUSUL: I get weird errors when starting up hostapd.  I told it i'm using madwifi and the port is ath0.  Not sure what else I ened to do
[12:59] <doctorshim> Raz`: What does that do again?
[12:59] <HOT> Raz' : did that work fella?
[12:59] <Raz`> it shuts down x
[12:59] <doctorshim> Not just restart it?
[12:59] <Raz`> I dunno hot, cause I've hit shift-backspace twice since I asked you
[12:59] <GhostFreeman> restarts X if your a noob using XGL
[12:59] <HOT> heh
[01:00] <HOT> well that totally works for me
[01:00] <GhostFreeman> I learned that the hard way
[01:00] <lws> erUSUL: ioctl[unknown???] : Operation not supported
[01:00] <Raz`> can you paste it again?
[01:00] <GhostFreeman> several times
[01:00] <HOT> sure
[01:00] <Raz`> thanks
[01:00] <HOT> xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server"
[01:00] <doctorshim> GhostFreeman: :(
[01:00] <HOT> just stick that in terminal and test
[01:00] <Raz`> works
[01:00] <HOT> :)
[01:00] <Raz`> thanks alot
[01:00] <HOT> np
[01:00] <HTGN-css|Silent_> oh crap
[01:01] <HTGN-css|Silent_> I have to install windows
[01:01] <HTGN-css|Silent_> how do i restore grub?
[01:03] <fatbrain> hrm, isn't unrar suppose to reside in the multiverse repository?
[01:03] <AbortD> unrar?
[01:03] <raf256_> ubuntu 6.0.6 DVD is fucked up - it is unistallable
[01:03] <AbortD> wouldnt it just be rar?
[01:03] <AbortD> no a search for it
[01:03] <ArrenLex> !language
[01:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:03] <eyequeue> !info unrar-nonfree
[01:03] <AbortD> no = do
[01:03] <ubotu> Package unrar-nonfree does not exist in any distro I know
[01:03] <m0> Current Request Details
[01:03] <m0> * 40 Ubuntu CDs for PC * 10 Ubuntu CDs for 64-bit PC * 10 Ubuntu CDs for Mac
[01:03] <m0> :)
[01:03] <eyequeue> !info rar-nonfree
[01:03] <fatbrain> o add support for it, install the package from the multiverse repository (AddingRepositoriesHowto).
[01:03] <ubotu> Package rar-nonfree does not exist in any distro I know
[01:03] <fatbrain> sudo apt-get install unrar
[01:03] <m0> Lets see if they give us it
[01:03] <ArrenLex> !unrar-free
[01:03] <fatbrain> (from website)
[01:03] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[01:03] <fatbrain> I dont want unrar-free, I want unrar.
[01:04] <eyequeue> !info unrar
[01:04] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[01:04] <ArrenLex> !unrar
[01:04] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:04] <ArrenLex> unrar is unrar-nonfree. It's in multiverse.
[01:04] <eyequeue> "!info unrar" is aparently the non-free version
[01:04] <m0> :)
[01:04] <fatbrain> ArrenLex. I didn't fidn it
[01:04] <ArrenLex> Fatbrain: apt-cache show unrar
[01:04] <fatbrain> (and yes, I enabled multiverse)
[01:04] <m0> I really hate gxine
[01:05] <Descentio1> do you know how i can set up VNC on ubuntu so i can view the desktop instead of just a terminal window?
[01:05] <eyequeue> fatbrain, enable multiverse, then sudo apt-get install unrar
[01:05] <m0> not hate:) But doesn't work too good on my setup
[01:05] <fatbrain> I changed the sources.list, did a apt-get update and a apt-get install unrar, nothing (couldn't find the package named unrar)
[01:05] <HOT> Descentio1: you want to view your ubuntu desktop or a remote box FROM your ubuntu boxen?
[01:05] <Mikel0> i got 11 10MB rar files which form a single one but i can't manage to extract it anybody?
[01:05] <ArrenLex> Descentio: I think you're looking for rfb
[01:05] <ArrenLex> !rfb
[01:05] <ubotu> rfb: VNC Server for X11 - exports current display. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.1-11.2 (dapper), package size 225 kB, installed size 660 kB
[01:05] <eyequeue> fatbrain, needs sudo
[01:05] <fatbrain> I'm sudo
[01:05] <fatbrain> sudo su'ed
[01:06] <Bacaruda> anyone here pretty good with Wine?
[01:06] <Descentio1> HOT: i want to view my ubuntu desktop from another computer
[01:06] <eyequeue> fatbrain, nothing ever needs sudo su
[01:06] <fatbrain> Bacaruda: I've only used it to play WoW :)
[01:06] <HOT> ArrenLex: is on the money
[01:06] <fatbrain> eyequeue: needs?
[01:06] <raf256_> Ubiquity crashes 6.06 on Installation
[01:06] <ArrenLex> fatbrain: run     cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v "#"
[01:06] <Bacaruda> fatbrain, did you have an issue of the mouse not showing up?
[01:06] <ArrenLex> fatbrain: And pastebin the results.
[01:06] <raf256_> how to dissallow Ubiquity from installing?
[01:06] <Max_-> Weird!!  I try to play an mp3 with AmaroK or Music Player and it ways it's not a sound stream (or playlist finished) .. but now this is a file I'm listening to many time a day...  I know it is a working mp3
[01:06] <nkayhan> I'm using xubuntu and when I put a disk in no icon shows up on the desktop, and there's no hint of a cdrom in thunar, any ideas why?
[01:06] <Xenguy> Descentio1: freenx ?
[01:06] <Flannel> Max_-: have you installed mp3 codecs?
[01:06] <HOT> install then just "vncserver" and connect to that session number so: <IP_ADDRESS>:1
[01:07] <Max_-> Flannel, no
[01:07] <Telroth_Plushie|> is anyone familiar with the alt+numpad keycodes from windows? is there anything like that for linux/kde ?
[01:07] <HOT> or whatever you IP is
[01:07] <Flannel> !tell Max_- about mp3
[01:07] <Max_-> Flannel, didn't know I needed them...
[01:07] <Descentio1> Xenguy: what's freenx?
[01:07] <ndo> hmm, but anyway, ive some question, i hope its np to schoot it here. The question is... As i see latest Kernel cause problems using iPod.. (no EFFI support, or some like that). So the question is, witch kernel (litlebit older) version still have no problems using ipod ? :-/
[01:07] <raf256_> I found a bu in ubuntu, ubuntu 6.06 is uninstallable. Where to report it?
[01:07] <ArrenLex> Max: amarok doesn't ship with mp3 support because of patent issues.
[01:07] <ArrenLex> !mp3
[01:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:07] <Flannel> Max_-: you need to install them ;)  ubout sent you a link
[01:07] <lan3y> np: Lamb - God Bless
[01:07] <Descentio1> !freenx
[01:07] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology.  For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[01:08] <Sprafa> aaah
[01:08] <eyequeue> !language > raf256_
[01:08] <fatbrain> Bacaruda: erm, not following.
[01:08] <fatbrain> Bacaruda: WoW-wise?
[01:08] <Sprafa> this chan is frantic
[01:08] <raf256_> !echo "I am p*** off on 6.06 developers!" > eyequeue
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about echo "I am p*** off on 6.06 developers!"  How do I enable support for 1280x1024 as a resolution in gnome?
[01:09] <fatbrain> ArrenLex: Should I add multiverse on line 4/5?
[01:09] <fatbrain> erm, 1-2
[01:09] <Flannel> raf256_: why'd you buy it?  it's a free download.  And again, there were some prblems with ubiquity on 6.06, fixed in 6.06.1
[01:09] <ArrenLex> fatbrain: change line 7 to read debhttp://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dapperuniversemultiverse
[01:09] <raf256_> Flannel: to support the ubuntu project and the reseleer
[01:09] <fatbrain> ArrenLex: Thanks
[01:09] <HTGN-css|Silent_> how do I restore grub from the ubuntu live after a winxp install
[01:09] <Flannel> raf256_: reseller maybe, chances are he didn't pay anything to ubuntu.
[01:09] <Flannel> !tell HTGN-css|Silent_ about grub
[01:10] <raf256_> flashnet: well still
[01:10] <HTGN-css|Silent_> thanks
[01:10] <se_bsas> Hi!, I'm Sebastian from Argentina
[01:10] <ArrenLex> HTGN: can you boot ubuntu at all?
[01:10] <Pretor1ab> hello i have been struggling for hours trying to get ndiswrapper to work -- can anyone help please
[01:10] <raf256_> flashnet: I hope they will replace the 6.01 for me.
[01:10] <se_bsas> Anybody knows how to install a Nvidia driver?
[01:10] <ArrenLex> !nvidia
[01:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:10] <se_bsas> I tried installing the nvidia packages
[01:10] <HOT> Pretor1ab: i can try, whats the current status?
[01:10] <Telroth_Plushie|> se_bsas, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:10] <fatbrain> see_bsas: I downloaded them from nvidia website
[01:10] <se_bsas> but doesnt work
[01:10] <se_bsas> really, doesnt work, my question is...
[01:10] <xgm> hello, what should i install to watch avi movies ?
[01:10] <fatbrain> se_bsas: before I downloaded them I removed all "restricted modules" crap
[01:11] <HTGN-css|Silent_> Arren, I can boot it now, but I know grub is gonna get pwned when I install winbloze xp
[01:11] <se_bsas> I want to try with an external nvidida drivers
[01:11] <fatbrain> se_bsas: worked for me, didn't get the pre-compiled to work from restricted
[01:11] <Xenguy> xgm: vlc works
[01:11] <HTGN-css|Silent_> It's sad, but I'm not wasting a 120 dollar sound card
[01:11] <se_bsas> but Ineed run level 3
[01:11] <xgm> !vlc
[01:11] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:11] <ArrenLex> HTGN: look into rescue CDs to let you reinstall grub.
[01:11] <HTGN-css|Silent_> ya, some one sent me some info
[01:11] <Pretor1ab> i followed the installation procedure and have installed the windows driver but cannot start the device
[01:11] <se_bsas> but i write 'init 3', but nothing happends
[01:11] <se_bsas> happens
[01:11] <Pretor1ab> i am using a bcmwl5.sys driver on a hp pavilion laptop
[01:12] <Max_-> Flannel, thanks, everything works now... I just had to look in the add/remove application and search for mp3 codec
[01:12] <Sprafa> would anyone mind pointing to an installation tut
[01:12] <m0> I have a quesiton: I am wondering when I click on an external link in some application. It says Copy Link, or Open Link in Browser.
[01:12] <HOT> my god Pretor1ab you a  lucky chappie , thats exactly what i have
[01:12] <m0> When I click on open link in brower,nothing happens
[01:12] <Pretor1ab> can you help HOT
[01:12] <m0> How can I debug that ?
[01:12] <Bacaruda> yeah I can get Guild Wars to run and pretty good just the cursor doesnt show up
[01:12] <fatbrain> ArrenLex: thanks, got it sorted out now
[01:12] <HOT> Pretor1ab: did you modprobe for the device?
[01:12] <Flannel> HTGN-css|Silent_: read the link ubotu sent you, it tells you how to fix grub
[01:12] <ArrenLex> fatbrain: glad I could help.
[01:12] <fatbrain> ArrenLex: likewise.
[01:13] <Who_> !tell Sprafa about installation
[01:13] <Pretor1ab> modprobe -l is it ?
[01:13] <se_bsas> yes yes, I list the modules in kernel And this appear
[01:13] <se_bsas> yeah!
[01:13] <xgm> !avi
[01:13] <Sprafa> yay
[01:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:13] <Sprafa> wubbles
[01:13] <HOT> Pretor1ab: i need a few mins, need to work back through history see if i can remember
[01:13] <ndo> !ipod
[01:13] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[01:13] <se_bsas> the error is when i start ubuntu, a message appear sayinh 'cannot start HAL'
[01:13] <Raz`> !resolution
[01:13] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:14] <se_bsas> you say resolution is the problem?
[01:14] <Who_> Sparfa: wubbles?!
[01:15] <Sprafa> wubbles = <3
[01:15] <Sprafa> if you had my name right Who_ you would've highlighted me! :P
[01:15] <HOT> Pretor1ab: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:15] <Sprafa> anyways that thing isn't very helpful
[01:15] <HOT> Pretor1ab: what does that give you?
[01:15] <se_bsas> 'cannot start HAL' when ubuntu starts
[01:16] <Who_> Sprafa: then I'll do some actual work :)hold on
[01:16] <Sprafa> nah it's just
[01:16] <Pretor1ab> nothing
[01:16] <HOT> sudo ndiswrapper -m
[01:16] <HOT> try that
[01:16] <Sprafa> i'm an uber noob, and that tut says absolutely nothing on what i want to know
[01:16] <Sprafa> which is, the screen right after i partition my hdds
[01:16] <Pretor1ab> already contains alias directive
[01:16] <Sprafa> is damn confusing
[01:17] <se_bsas> ok, I'm going to try that
[01:17] <Who_> Sprafa: tell me about it, I'll see if I can help
[01:17] <se_bsas> thanks!!!
[01:17] <Sprafa> PM?
[01:18] <Who_> Sprafa: I am not registered, I think :S
[01:18] <rixth> How can I capture a screenshot of X via the commandline?
[01:18] <Sprafa> well, pretty much all i need is a screen that tells me wtf is /srv
[01:18] <Xenguy> rixth: scrot
[01:18] <Sprafa> and all that other stuff D:
[01:18] <rixth> Woo.
[01:18] <Pretor1ab> HOT that returns nothing
[01:18] <Sprafa> i partition, and it shows the whole "choose partitions to install"
[01:18] <HOT> Pretor1ab: i remember now, i didnt use ndiswapper at all, i used an alternative method, let me see if i can find it, can i have the exact network card name
[01:19] <Tm218> Anyone know how to fix this to get it back to ipv4? http://upit.be/uploads/images/ubuntu13097.png
[01:19] <Tm218> for some reason it thinks it is ipv6
[01:19] <Sprafa> hda2, hda3, hda4
[01:19] <Who_> Sprafa: this is the screen where you have to select what names to give which partitions (I.E where to mount each partition)?
[01:19] <Sprafa> yes!
[01:19] <Sprafa> lol
[01:19] <Sprafa> i'm such a newb D:
[01:19] <Pretor1ab> can you tell me the command you need me to run so that i can give you the right information
[01:19] <Sprafa> but i mean, it says media/hda3 media/hda4
[01:19] <Sprafa> it's not very helpful!
[01:19] <HOT> Pretor1ab: just look on the card fella, should have name on the back
[01:20] <Sprafa> the help button, it does nothing D:
[01:20] <Pretor1ab> its in the machine
[01:20] <HOT> Pretor1ab: it is a PCMCIA card ?
[01:20] <HOT> ah
[01:20] <Pretor1ab> broadcom
[01:20] <Who_> Sprafa: okay - you know you have two IDE channels on your mother baord?
[01:20] <Sprafa> i know the designations that linux gives it
[01:20] <Sprafa> hda for hdd 1
[01:20] <duckman75> i am having trouble with my sataraid volume, it will not mount  (error says device /dev/sda1 is not removeable could not execute pmount)  can anyone help?
[01:20] <Sprafa> hdb for hdd 2
[01:20] <h00t> hello can anyone help me .. i had a good ubuntu (latest) installed ... i but i installed XP which (of course) overwrote mbr ... how can i fix this
[01:20] <Tm218> Anyone know how to fix this to get it back to ipv4? http://upit.be/uploads/images/ubuntu13097.png
[01:20] <Tm218> for some reason it thinks it is ipv6
[01:21] <Who_> Sprafa: cool - Ubuntu mounts your disks on to the filessystem so you access /dev/hda1 ad /media/hda1 as if it is in a folder
[01:21] <Sprafa> i'm almost at the level of building my own computer, but linux makes me feel powerless
[01:21] <Who_> Sprafa: give it a week, Linux will make you feel powerFUL
[01:21] <HOT> Pretor1ab:  lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation
[01:21] <HOT> run that
[01:21] <Sprafa> but wait, what IS media/hda1 ?
[01:21] <Sprafa> isn't that placeholder ?
[01:21] <Who_> Sprafa: I installed Linux just after building my first PC :)
[01:22] <lupine_85> it's a mountpoint :)
[01:22] <butleR`> does anyone know why my terminal doesn't respond to my keyboard when it asks me for my keyboard?
[01:22] <Sprafa> shouldn't i replace media/hda1 for "/" and "/boot" ?
[01:22] <butleR`> password*
[01:22] <KromiX> question guys I am installing ubuntu for the first time on my second box and it keeps kind of freezing up in a screen with two white bars on the top and bottom (brown background), the mouse is moveable but nothing seems to happen, I am guess this means there is a conflict with hardware ? maybe something is not supported by UBuntu?
[01:22] <Who_> Sprafa: it is a folder on your disk - unilike in Windows where each disk has it's own drive letter all disks come off /
[01:22] <compotatoj> butleR`: does the terminal work otherwise?
[01:22] <butleR`> yes
[01:22] <Who_> Sprafa: seems like you're not _such_ a newbie :)  If you want it that way, then yes
[01:22] <Sprafa> no no wait
[01:22] <Sprafa> tell me
[01:22] <butleR`> but when it asks me for my admin password, only thing it responds to is enter
[01:22] <compotatoj> butleR`: it just doesn't show the characters for security reasons
[01:23] <Sprafa> what IS media/hda1 ?
[01:23] <cartufer> butler, its prolly hiding ur password
[01:23] <Pretor1ab> 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[01:23] <Who_> Sprafa: It is unlikely you will need a separate boot partition
[01:23] <Sprafa> and media/hda2 etc
[01:23] <compotatoj> butleR`: try typing in your password and it will work, you just don't see the characters
[01:23] <butleR`> awesome
[01:23] <Sprafa> they're not placeholders ?
[01:23] <butleR`> thanks
[01:23] <butleR`> it worked
[01:23] <butleR`> <- newb to linux
[01:23] <compotatoj> butleR`: you can even hit delete a bunch of times and it will delete it
[01:23] <raf256_> hurrey
[01:23] <HOT> Pretor1ab: i would like to suggest this method then : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=broadcom , it worked for me when ndiswrapper didnt
[01:23] <compotatoj> butleR`: That is ok, we are all noobs at one point
[01:23] <KromiX> hrm this sucks im excited to install ubuntu for the first time but its not working lol
[01:23] <raf256_> the messed up 6.06 ubuntu did installed
[01:23] <raf256_> despite the bug in installer program
[01:23] <deep__> Sprafa: Its mountpoints :)
[01:23] <raf256_> in 3th appraoch
[01:23] <Sprafa> what's a mount point D:
[01:24] <Who_> Sprafa: they are the 'mount points' of the partitions hda1 and hda2 - when your system is installed and up and running then you can access evrything on thos partitions by navigating to their 'mount points' - I.E their folders
[01:24] <Pretor1ab> thanks HOT i will give it a go
[01:24] <Tm218> http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8909/ubuntuuo1.jpg <-- is there any reason why that interfaces file wouldnt work? I am trying to connect via DHCP to my router
[01:24] <lupine_85> Sprafa: most important thing you'll ever learn about linux - everything is a file
[01:24] <Sprafa> ooh
[01:24] <KromiX> im trying to install 6.0.6 for the first time and it seems to keep freezing on a screen with two white bars on the top and bottom and brown background, mouse is moving but nothing else?
[01:24] <HOT> Pretor1ab: np, like i say it worked straight away for me, and it supports all broadcom cards
[01:24] <Sprafa> so wait
[01:24] <deep__> Sprafa: Well, its like this. In /dev, theres is alot, ALOT of "drives", and hda1 is harddrive a (1st), 1st partition.
[01:24] <Sprafa> media/hda1 etc
[01:24] <Who_> Sprafa: instead of having drive letters, Linux sticks all the disks 'inside' folders that come off the main 'root' filesystem that we call '/'
[01:24] <dad> is there someway that i can use the dapper cd to restore grub?
[01:24] -CarMurder:#ubuntu- lol g, join irc.bantown.com #bantown and get hugs visit http://lilo.on.nimp.org/?u=bantown for more info. #ubuntu SUCKS
[01:24] <Sprafa> those are like acess points for linux ?
[01:24] <deep__> Sprafa: and mountpoint, is where you have it mounted.
[01:25] <Sprafa> i know that Decadent
[01:25] <Who_> Sprafa: a bit - like 'mapping a network drive' in Windows
[01:25] <deep__> Sprafa: like in windows, all "mountpoints" is in "My Computer"
[01:25] <Cymage> with the broadcom, if u want to use ndiswrapper, u have to blacklist the bcm43xx driver
[01:25] <deep__> Sprafa: :)
[01:25] <Sprafa> aah
[01:25] <Sprafa> AAH
[01:25] <Sprafa> ooh
[01:25] <Sprafa> so let's see if i got this straight
[01:25] <deep__> =D
[01:25] <HOT> Cymage: yea, its a bugger to be honest, that other way is much smoother IMHO
[01:25] <Sprafa> what i should do in that screen
[01:25] <Who_> Sprafa: you MUST have a '/' , but all others are technically optional
[01:25] <Sprafa> is just let linux create a mount point for every partition
[01:26] <deep__> Sprafa: Yes. :) Wont effect the harddrive
[01:26] <Cymage> it is if it works. mines a 4318 and native wont work, so ndiswrapper is only answer
[01:26] <Sprafa> one of those mount points will be "/" for root, another one for "swap"
[01:26] <dad> is there someway that i can use the dapper cd to restore grub?
[01:26] <Who_> I personally ahve a separate '/' and '/hom' and then let the installer make its own mount points for all my other disks, like /media/hda5
[01:26] <Tm218> http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8909/ubuntuuo1.jpg <-- is there any reason why that interfaces file wouldnt work? I am trying to connect via DHCP to my router
[01:26] <Sprafa> oohkay
[01:26] <Who_> Sprafa:ohh yea - forgot about swap :S you need that too, but you know that!
[01:26] <deep__> Sprafa: Yeah. "/" will be like "C:" in windows, where ubuntu is installed
[01:27] <Sprafa> so let's say i don't build a mount point for my NTFS
[01:27] <Sprafa> linux won't acess it
[01:27] <Who_> Sprafa: I made a typo, I have '/' and '/home'
[01:27] <deep__> Sprafa: and swap is just a secondary "ram"-memory, on the hdd
[01:27] <Sprafa> yeah i know
[01:27] <Sprafa> virtual memory
[01:27] <deep__> Sprafa: unless you mount is yourself
[01:27] <deep__> Sprafa: quite easy to do. "mount /dev/hda1 /mnt" or "mount /dev/hda2 /media/whereever"
[01:27] <Who_> Sprafa: basically, unless it has a mountpiint it is difficult to access a disk
[01:28] <Sprafa> oh, i think i get it
[01:28] <deep__> =)
[01:28] <Sprafa> mount points are linux acess whatever whatever
[01:28] <Sprafa> they're TUBES!
[01:28] <Who_> Sprafa: when I say difficult, I mean as hard as what deep_ just showed you :P
[01:28] <Sprafa> but they're inside my computer :D
[01:28] <deep__> Haha :D
[01:28] <Sprafa> linux tubes
[01:28] <Neff> hello i'm new. can ubuntu be run from a sandisk card and what's the minimum size
[01:28] <Sprafa> so they won't get clogged
[01:28] <deep__> Sprafa: /dev is the place for unmounted "stuff", you can mount whatever you want (almoast :)) wherever you want :)
[01:29] <Who_> Neff: it technically _could_ but I think there are other flavours of Linux that may be easier to do it with
[01:29] <Sprafa> yay
[01:29] <eyequeue> Neff, usb?  1 gb i guess, since you need the cd image on it
[01:29] <deep__> Sprafa: like mounting your cd-drive as root, but thats a bad idea :)
[01:29] <Cymage> fstab is ur friend, lol
[01:29] <Sprafa> all my stuff is /dev right now
[01:29] <Sprafa> that means everything is unmounted
[01:29] <Sprafa> therefore unnacessible by linux
[01:29] <deep__> Sprafa: Yep. :)
[01:29] <eyequeue> Neff, and no, it's not simple, heh
[01:29] <Neff> so ubuntu runs from CD?
[01:29] <HOT> Neff: you might be better off with something like puppylinux, is more suited to that enviroment
[01:29] <cartufer> or u could just save the changes to a sandisk
[01:29] <deep__> Sprafa: Well,
[01:29] <Who_> Sprafa: yep, but it doesn't go OUT of /dev when you mount it
[01:29] <Sprafa> great
[01:29] <Who_> Sprafa: so things in there could be mounted too
[01:29] <Flannel> Neff: it can, but as HOT said, there are probably better choices if youre running only from LiveCD
[01:30] <deep__> Sprafa: I guess the videocard is there too.. i guess its mounted. I dunno, quite new. :P
[01:30] <Sprafa> okay, confusion D:
[01:30] <eyequeue> Neff, not typically, but there is a "live cd" or "live dvd"  yes
[01:30] <Neff> ok
[01:30] <Sprafa> let me keep my analogy of tubes
[01:30] <Neff> thanks
[01:30] <deep__> Sprafa: Look at is this way:
[01:30] <Who_> Sprafa: on linux _all_ devices live in /dev, not just files - for example your audio device might  be /dev/dsp - programas wantingh to make noise can write to that file
[01:31] <deep__> Sprafa: /dev/<thing> is a "shortcut" to a disc or drive or usb-memory or mp3-player. BUt you cant use it.
[01:31] <lupine_85> you can use it :)
[01:31] <lupine_85> it's just hard
[01:31] <Who_> Sprafa: though that is JUST a demonstration because in modern day systems sound is ccontrolled by an abstraction layer, because only one thing can write to /dev/dsp at once otherwise
[01:31] <deep__> Sprafa: Then you mount it, and that sees that "Oh, hdd1, thats is that harddrive and its there. Ill go there"
[01:31] <Sprafa> so basically i'll config it as such : one "/" for the 30gb EXT3 partition, one "swap" for the 3gb EXT3 partition, and the rest will all be media/hda1 media/hda2 for my FAT32 and NTFS partitions
[01:31] <lupine_85> when you "mount" it, you're letting the kernel do the hard work - it filters it through a driver for you
[01:31] <Who_> Sprafa: Sounds perfect
[01:32] <Sprafa> excellent :D
[01:32] <Sprafa> oh yeah
[01:32] <Who_> Sprafa: you may want to consider having a separate /hom
[01:32] <Sprafa> why ?
[01:32] <deep__> Sprafa: SWAP should not be ext3, but linux-swap, and does not have to be 3 gb :)
[01:32] <Who_> Sprafa: homE that is, because it allows you to re-install the OS but keep your personal settings
[01:32] <jonathan__> cfghghj
[01:32] <Sprafa> so instead of swap i should have linux-swap ?
[01:32] <Sprafa> i know it shouldn't be that big D:
[01:33] <Sprafa> i'm a big multi-task guy
[01:33] <deep__> Sprafa: /home is like "My documents" in windows, your "stuff" will be in there. And you can have that on the ntfs-drive if you wish.
[01:33] <Who_> Sprafa: if you select a 'type' of 'linux-swap' I think it will do the rest for you
[01:33] <unix_infidel> how can i have ubuntu use icon themes for gtk apps that use gtk when dont have gnome-desktop installed
[01:33] <Sprafa> sooo, instead of SWAP, linux-swap
[01:33] <Sprafa> got it..
[01:33] <Who_> Deep_, Sprafa: Linux cannot write reliabley to ntfs so a /home on ntfs would be a bad idea/ probably impossible
[01:33] <Sprafa> i know
[01:33] <Sprafa> :P
[01:33] <deep__> Who_: ntfs-3g! :D
[01:34] <Sprafa> there's one problem though, i'll have to abdicate of my FAT32 partition
[01:34] <Sprafa> since it only accepts 4 primary partitions
[01:34] <Sprafa> meh
[01:34] <Tm218> http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8909/ubuntuuo1.jpg <-- is there any reason why that interfaces file wouldnt work? I am trying to connect via DHCP to my router
[01:34] <deep__> Sprafa: abdicate..? sry for my english ^^
[01:34] <Who_> Sprafa: /home is different from my docs in that all the configurations for each user are installed in there, so you can keep all your personal set up and still reinstal lall the OS
[01:34] <unix_infidel> anyone?
[01:34] <Flannel> sparkleytone: swap doesn't need to be a primary partition
[01:34] <Sprafa> aah
[01:34] <HOT> Tm218: i personally dont see anything wrong
[01:34] <Flannel> Sprafa: even
[01:34] <Sprafa> not have a FAT32 partition
[01:34] <Tm218> HOT where are the dhcp settings
[01:34] <Tm218> or whatever
[01:34] <Who_> deep_:what is ntfs-3g?
[01:35] <Tm218> because it says it cant connect
[01:35] <Sprafa> cause it only allows for 4 primaries
[01:35] <deep__> Sprafa: You can mount it later :)
[01:35] <deep__> Who_: A module for writing to NTFS :)
[01:35] <lupine_85> ntfs-3g is the newest way to format your ntfs hard drive
[01:35] <HOT> Tm218: as you are using auto i beleive that means attempt DHCP , hopefully someone else will confirm
[01:35] <Samuli^> Who_, a program that enables you to write to ntfs.
[01:35] <Sprafa> hmm
[01:35] <lupine_85> deep__: that's what I said :p
[01:35] <Tm218> right
[01:35] <Sprafa> thanks guys
[01:35] <Samuli^> it's beta.
[01:35] <Sprafa> ooh, one more thing
[01:35] <Tm218> HOT how does it know what the gateway and stuff is?
[01:35] <Who_> is it good?
[01:36] <HOT> Tm218: try static for now, just to make sure it can work
[01:36] <deep__> lupine_85: haha, sry, everyone is writing everywhere so i cant keep up :)
[01:36] <deep__> Sprafa: Ah? :)
[01:36] <mistik1> hello al
[01:36] <Sprafa> linux doesn't accept non-numbers dialing numbers, but windows does
[01:36] <eyequeue> Who_, have backups, as it is reportedly ujnreliable, you lose everything
[01:36] <red|rain> Hey, how do I add a link to irssi shortcut  on the desktop using urxvt as the terminal to use?
[01:36] <Samuli^> Who_, I'm using it with no problems, but I've heard some people have got their file-system b0rked by using it.
[01:36] <HOT> Tm218: sudo ifconfig
[01:36] <deep__> Sprafa: :S
[01:36] <Sprafa> so for instance, windows has my dialing number as "Clix" but linux refuses to dial that
[01:36] <Who_> eyequeue: I have once ext3 disk here failing, that's enough for me
[01:36] <Sprafa> so, basically, best bet is to call the ISP
[01:36] <jrib> red|rain: use -e
[01:36] <deep__> Sprafa: Umm.. i dunno anything about dialing soo.. =)
[01:36] <Who_> anyone want to help me find out a bit more about why my ext3 disk causes HARD freezes - I.E no caps/num lock?
[01:36] <Sprafa> kind of a bore, but oh well
[01:37] <Sprafa> i dunno anything about it either :D
[01:37] <red|rain> jrib:  so I would use irssi -e ?
[01:37] <mistik1> I have a situation where I want to upgrade a debian 3 to kubuntu, can anyone point me to a sources.list that would make that posible
[01:37] <Who_> Sprafa: what is dialling?
[01:37] <Sprafa> all i know is that linux won't connect
[01:37] <jrib> red|rain: urxvt -e command   (according to man urxvt)
[01:37] <Who_> Sprafa: are we talking modemes?
[01:37] <yoshiznit123> could anyone point me to some docs about sharing an internet connection over a ad-hoc wireless network? i've tried setting both computers to static addresses on the same ad-hoc network, but they still can't ping each other...
[01:37] <eyequeue> mistik1, completely unsupported
[01:37] <Sprafa> yes
[01:37] <Netslayer> i just plugged in a wingman joystick through usb and cat /dev/input/event1 is showing output....how do i make that work with xev to assign keys? do i need to set it up as a mouse in xorg.conf?
[01:37] <Sprafa> modems
[01:37] <deep__> Sprafa: Okay. :O
[01:37] <Flannel> mistik1: I don't believe it is possible, but... you can try these links (check your query from ubotu)
[01:37] <mistik1> I cannot use the install CD or I would just do that
[01:37] <red|rain> jrib: ok i'll tyr that
[01:37] <Flannel> !tell mistik1 about installation
[01:37] <eyequeue> mistik1, any kubuntu sources though
[01:37] <Sprafa> ubuntu also says my modem is "busy" when i tell it to autodetect
[01:37] <ladydoor> mistik1: it's not an upgrade--it's a completely different operating system
[01:37] <Tm218> HOT, http://upit.be/uploads/images/ubuntu1560.jpg
[01:37] <Who_> Sprafa: if it is a 'winmodem' then it might not owrk
[01:37] <Flannel> mistik1: there are otehr alternatives, that page lists a bunch
[01:38] <Tm218> HOT, http://upit.be/uploads/images/ubuntu1560.jpg <-- it thinks it is ipv6???
[01:38] <eyequeue> mistik1, i did similar to ubuntu-minimal for a server
[01:38] <Sprafa> oh ?
[01:38] <mistik1> eyequeue, unsupported or not I need to do this
[01:38] <Sprafa> not work at all ?
[01:38] <Who_> Sprafa: if it is a real modem then it may well do with the right software
[01:38] <Who_> Sprafa: if it is a connexant then you may need to buy the drivers
[01:38] <red|rain> jrib: thank you that worked ^_^
[01:38] <HOT> Tm218: erk, i see your problem, sec
[01:38] <eyequeue> mistik1, so it's "possible" but you'll have pains, and it may or may not end up how you like
[01:38] <Who_> Sprafa: I did this a while back on an PC of my auntie - it worked well
[01:38] <Tm218> good, because i dont know how to fix it :)
[01:38] <HOT> Tm218: actually wait i have exactly thesame
[01:38] <Sprafa> ouch...
[01:39] <Sprafa> that sucks
[01:39] <Who_> Sprafa: let's see what ubotu has to say
[01:39] <Who_> !winmodems
[01:39] <jrib> red|rain: np.  Why aren't you using screen though? :)
[01:39] <Flannel> mistik1: read the link ubotu sent you, there are plenty of other CD-less options.  You can't upgrade, but you can use debian to install ubuntu.
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winmodems - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <ArrenLex> !winmodem
[01:39] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[01:39] <HOT> never noticed that before but i am running ipv6
[01:39] <Who_> Sprafa: no luck
[01:39] <mistik1> eyequeue, I have 11 years linux experience I can get past the problems
[01:39] <eyequeue> mistik1, but you'll also be completely on your own :/    if fluent, it can be a project :)  took me a few days here
[01:39] <Sprafa> :(
[01:39] <Sprafa> anyways
[01:39] <red|rain> jrib: whats screen?
[01:39] <Sprafa> thanks for explaining mount points !
[01:39] <jrib> ubotu: tell red|rain about screen
[01:39] <Who_> ArrenLex: thanks :)
[01:39] <Tm218> HOT would that stop it from connecting to my router?
[01:39] <mistik1> I just dont have any access to my own linux boxes at this time
[01:39] <Sprafa> i'll come back tomorrow, maybe from within ubuntu instead of windows D:
[01:39] <Who_> Sprafa: ArrenLex had the right phrase - you see it
[01:40] <deep__> Sprafa: Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[01:40] <deep__> =)
[01:40] <HOT> Tm218: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:40] <Who_> no one want to tell me where to find logs relating to disk failures?
[01:40] <Sprafa> hmm
[01:40] <Sprafa> great
[01:40] <eyequeue> mistik1, if debian-fluent and a bit ubuntu-fluent, i'll bet you succeed :)  start with ubuntu-minimal, get that working, then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop when you are ready
[01:40] <Sprafa> THANKS!
[01:40] <Sprafa> anyways
[01:40] <Who_> or anyone good with S.M.A.R.T?
[01:40] <mistik1> guys I just need a sources.list
[01:40] <Sprafa> must sleep now D:
[01:40] <Sprafa> cy
[01:40] <Tm218> HOT
[01:40] <deep__> Sprafa: Take care =)
[01:40] <Sprafa> thanks for everything, Who_
[01:40] <Tm218> it can ping just fine
[01:40] <Sprafa> deep__
[01:40] <CppIsWeird> can anyone tell me how do make a system similar to the encryption intagrated into the OS of this project, is it a package, or all custom programming? : http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/30/defcon2006_janus_project/
[01:40] <Sprafa> woosh
[01:40] <Flannel> eyequeue, mistik1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation , there are methods
[01:40] <Who_> Sprafa: No worries! good lcuk with Ubuntu :)
[01:40] <Sprafa> linux D:
[01:40] <deep__> Sprafa:  =D =D
[01:40] <red|rain> jrib: ahh thanks that should come in handy
[01:40] <deep__> linux ;D
[01:40] <deep__> <3
[01:41] <HOT> Tm218: can you set up a static ip for now? just to see if you can ping the router?
[01:41] <m0> When I goto SYSYEM > about Ubuntu . It says could not lauch menu item . Details: Failed to execute child process "yelp"
[01:41] <m0> no such file or dir
[01:41] <Tm218> too bad this is my first time on ubuntu/linux.. I am a bsd guy :)
[01:41] <yoshiznit123> could anyone point me to some docs about sharing an internet connection over a ad-hoc wireless network? i've tried setting both computers to static addresses on the same ad-hoc network, but they still can't ping each other...
[01:41] <Tm218> time to go read up on interfaces file
[01:41] <HOT> Tm218: before you go any further, quick sanity check , you do have link lights on your NIC and on the router right?
[01:41] <m0> how do I fix that?
[01:41] <eyequeue> mistik1, one line to start you:  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[01:41] <Tm218> HOT it is vmware :)
[01:41] <jrib> m0: is yelp installed?
[01:41] <Tm218> it was working before i rebooted the guest OS
[01:41] <HOT> Tm218: ahhh now the truth comes out :)
[01:42] <m0> jrib: let me check
[01:42] <deep__> yoshiznit123: I would go to ubuntuforums.org about that.. ;O
[01:42] <eyequeue> mistik1, i recommend starting simple, then add universe or whatever afterward
[01:42] <xaxxon> do I have to do anything special to make sata drives show up in 6.06?
[01:42] <yoshiznit123> deep__, hmm ok :-)
[01:42] <HOT> Tm218: is ubuntu running under VMware?
[01:42] <Tm218> yes
[01:42] <deep__> yoshiznit123: =)
[01:42] <Who_> xaxxon: I had sata working out of the box
[01:42] <ArrenLex> mistik1: this is mine, ignore the comments please, they're other repos I've used in the past.
[01:42] <m0> what does yelp do?>
[01:42] <HOT> Tm218: bridged or NAT?
[01:42] <ArrenLex> mistik: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8001/sources.list
[01:42] <Tm218> bridged
[01:42] <eyequeue> mistik1, and yes kubuntu uses ubuntu repos :)
[01:42] <HOT> Tm218: restart using NAT, tell me what happens
[01:42] <jrib> yelp (1)             - browse system documentation
[01:42] <Who_> xaxxon: you may just need to mount the disks?
[01:42] <mistik1> thanks guys
[01:43] <m0> ah okay cool, its working now
[01:43] <Tm218> ok HOT
[01:43] <carlos> can anyone help me set up my wireless?
[01:43] <xaxxon> apparently I turned them off in my bios... whoops
[01:43] <Who_> carlos: maybe - what kind of card have you got?
[01:43] <eyequeue> Flannel, lots of goodies on that page, thanks :)
[01:43] <m0> carlos: what wireless you have
[01:44] <Tm218> that works HOT
[01:44] <Tm218> :)
[01:44] <HOT> Tm218: for reasons i am faaar to tired to explain, bridging makes vmware cry, hope that works well for you :)
[01:44] <Who_> calos:also, does it show up in the netowrking dialogue under System-->Administration-->Networking
[01:45] <carlos> Who_ , m0 : I don`t know what you mean. 802.11b/g ?
[01:45] <Tm218> HOT but it works on all of my other guest OS's
[01:45] <Tm218> including freebsd :)
[01:45] <carlos> Who_:  it does
[01:45] <cartufer> card brand/model/chipset
[01:45] <Who_> carlos: do you know the manufacturer of your card - they all use different chips and need different treatment
[01:45] <Who_> carlos: this is good news - it measn it shouldn't be too hard
[01:45] <HOT> Tm218: your already close to the answer, its to do with IPV6 stack, best to ignore the details, i do :)
[01:46] <Who_> carlos: what help do you need, specifically?
[01:46] <carlos> Who: I don`t think so. Is there a way to find out that?
[01:46] <Who_> carlos: if it shows up in that netowrking dialogue then we may not need to know. Do you want to use WPA?
[01:46] <carlos> Who: yes..
[01:47] <ArrenLex> !tell ArrenLex about aiglx
[01:47] <Cymage> i recommend making them talk first, then add encryption
[01:47] <delire> has anyone else encountered the odd ~/.dmrc glitch on attempted login: "Your $Home/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File sould be owned by user and have 644 permissions."
[01:48] <Netslayer> i just plugged in a wingman joystick through usb and cat /dev/input/event1 is showing output....how do i make that work with xev to assign keys? do i need to set it up as a mouse in xorg.conf?
[01:48] <hister> !dvd
[01:48] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:48] <Who_> carlos: well, I may not be able to help apart from the messages I make the ubuntu bot give you :), sorry - hope they can be of some use
[01:48] <ArrenLex> !joystick
[01:48] <ubotu> joystick: Testing and calibration tools. In component universe, is extra. Version 20051019-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 13 kB, installed size 72 kB
[01:48] <totall_6_7> delire: i have, it means that the permissions on your home folder have been changed
[01:48] <Who_> !tell carlos about networkmanager
[01:48] <Who_> !tell carlos about wpa
[01:48] <carlos> Who: thanks..
[01:49] <Who_> !tell who about networkmanager
[01:49] <Who_> !tell Who_ about networkmanager
[01:50] <rNIUS> bye :)
[01:50] <Who_> carlos: you really need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[01:51] <Cymage> somebodies server went down
[01:51] <lupine_85> conspiracy++
[01:51] <Who_> can someone explain the ubotu message bout joystick!?
[01:51] <cartufer> heh, haven't seen a good netsplit in couple of years
[01:51] <Omnifarious> Hi there.
[01:51] <Omnifarious> I have a question about LVM and Ubuntu.
[01:51] <Omnifarious> I'm about to install Dapper Drake.
[01:52] <ArrenLex> !lvm
[01:52] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[01:52] <jrib> Who_: he does not have a "joystick" factoid, so he gave you info about the "joystick" software package
[01:52] <Who_> jrib: thanks :) it seemed really weird! now it makes sense
[01:53] <raf256_> is there wine in 6.06 ?
[01:53] <jrib> raf256_: yes
[01:53] <Omnifarious> And my strategy for this system has been to have a root partition for each Linux distribution and revision.
[01:53] <jrib> !info wine
[01:53] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[01:53] <lupine_85> !info wine dapper
[01:53] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[01:53] <raf256_> if I have 6.06 installed (from DVDs) on internet-less box, how to find and reccord a cd that contains the files needed to upgrade 6.06 -> recent version, and how to use them on the box?
[01:53] <Omnifarious> ArrenLex: The links it gave me about LVM are nearly useless.
[01:53] <mjr> wine is one of the things you may want to have a newer version of, though, seeing as the development is quite rapid... but if you can make do with the dapper version, it's of course easier
[01:54] <mistik1> wish me luck, I'm on my way ;-)
[01:54] <mistik1> !tell mistik1 about gpg
[01:54] <Omnifarious> I struggled mightily with the beta of Dapper Drake and finally just threw up my hands and gave up on getting it to install the root filesystem into an LVM partition.
[01:54] <dad> i  type "configfile (hd1,1) /boot/grub/grub.conf" so i can boot back into linux, but it says "file not found" can someone help me?
[01:55] <Omnifarious> Is it easier with the release version?  Is there a trick I should know about?
[01:55] <Flannel> raf256_: you could download 6.06.1 on DVD, then update it as a repository (update your sources.list), that'll update you to the 6.06.1 snapshot point, if you want to be perfectly up to date, you'll have to do quite a bit of tracking and downloading and then installing manually.
[01:55] <Who_> !tell dad about grub
[01:55] <Flannel> Omnifarious: are you using the liveCD?
[01:55] <malar> help needed to configure IPW2100 on my Thinkpad T40
[01:55] <kitche> Omnifarious: the install has a choose of lvm or non lvm at least the alternate does
[01:56] <eyequeue> !ipw2100
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipw2100 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <Who_> dad: I don't quite understand your question, but I have made the bot give you some good links :)
[01:56] <raf256_> Flannel: erm... I have the internet on a Debian box.  Is there some thing like image, or list of files, like ubuntu_errat_6.06_to_6.06.1 ?
[01:56] <kitche> !ipw2200
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipw2200 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <Omnifarious> Flannel: I suspect not, I'm using the ISO called ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso
[01:56] <Flannel> Omnifarious: for LVM, you'll want to use the alternate ISO
[01:56] <Omnifarious> Oh, OK.
[01:56] <Flannel> Omnifarious: yeah, the desktop is the liveCD, you'll need the alternate to setup LVM
[01:56] <Mikel0> !autocad
[01:56] <ArrenLex> Hi Xenguy.
[01:56] <Who_> !tell Who_ about grub
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autocad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <Omnifarious> Flannel: Thanks.
[01:57] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: greetz
[01:57] <eyequeue> raf256_, the big big change in .1 is that the livecd isntaller is no longer broken.  there are also reportedly 300 bugs fixed
[01:57] <Omnifarious> kitche, Flannel: I'll come back and ask more once I've burned that.
[01:57] <Xenguy> hehe
[01:57] <raf256_> eyequeue: yeah I was lucky to get arund this damn bug, with 3th appraoch
[01:57] <Flannel> raf256_: the same places you downloaded the DVD iso, there are .manifest files, they list the stuff on the CDs, on the alternate (and the DVD) it's in a repository type format.  You can use that, but again, probably better off downloading the DVD itself
[01:58] <eyequeue> raf256_, i always use the alternate cd isntaller, so it never bit me :)
[01:58] <imperfect-> well
[01:58] <imperfect-> just for the record
[01:58] <imperfect-> make -j on a kernel
[01:58] <imperfect-> kills a core 2duo ;)
[01:58] <raf256_> Flannel: it seems like a big waste of bandwitch for me
[01:58] <raf256_> eyequeue: what alternate cd installer?
[01:58] <delire> totall_6_7: how would they change all of a sudden, from logout to login?
[01:58] <eyequeue> raf256_, there are three cd images per architecture, livecd, alternatecd, servercd
[01:58] <raf256_> erm
[01:59] <raf256_> I used the livecd (it was a DVD actially)
[01:59] <kitche> imperfect: why would you do make -j?
[01:59] <Flannel> raf256_: well, you'll be downloading the packages for each update you want, which if you have a DVD, and more than one flavor installed, is going to be quite signifigant
[01:59] <mjr> raf256_, apt-zip might help you with what you want
[01:59] <raf256_> is it ok? I used it to install to HDD
[01:59] <eyequeue> raf256_, livecd has little room for packages, as it has to fit all that live stuff on it, so i avoid it
[01:59] <Max_-> setup couldn't find make.. ????????? what's that?! lol
[01:59] <raf256_> I was surprised as it did not ask which packaged to instal
[01:59] <dipnlik> hi all. i just added system monitors to panel, and the processor always stays on 100% use. is this normal?
[01:59] <delire> totall_6_7: i'm helping a friend remotely. i'm on Debian, so cannot easily replicate the error.
[01:59] <imperfect-> kitche: I meant -j4
[01:59] <Flannel> raf256_: but, if you jsut want to get ubuntu or kubuntu installed, download 6.06.1 alternate
[01:59] <jman8888> OMG did you know you can use IRC in TERMINAL!
[01:59] <imperfect-> kitche: forgot the 4... went to hell
[01:59] <Flannel> Max_-: you need build-essential
[01:59] <eyequeue> raf256_, it's a VERY stripped installer, imo, just for the basic install
[01:59] <raf256_> jman8888: yes we know
[01:59] <Flannel> jman8888: yes, lots of us know that.  I'm doing it curently.
[01:59] <Max_-> Flannel,  thanks again
[01:59] <Who_> any grub gurus that can make grub scan my disk for other OSes, I _could_ add by hand but there are lots of them and I'd like to be able to automagically make a list - a bit like what happens at install time, I guess
[02:00] <kitche> imperfect: well why would you use make -j4 anyways? you should just do make
[02:00] <imperfect-> kitche: it goes faster.
[02:00] <jrib> jman8888: you can watch movies in the terminal too
[02:00] <imperfect-> kitche: that's why.
[02:00] <raf256_> eyequeue: yeah.. now how to install the missing stuff?  just  sudo apt-get install kaffeine xine xmms mc   and so on?
[02:00] <delire> Who_: just sudo grub-install
[02:00] <jman8888> jrib: How...
[02:00] <eyequeue> raf256_, you can't tell it you want to do anything in paritcular, and the alternate has the nice recovery tools i know
[02:00] <Who_> delire: that will look on all my disks for other Oses?
[02:00] <Flannel> raf256_: On the DVD? or Alternate Iso? or LiveCD?
[02:00] <imperfect-> kitche: 2 threads per core.
[02:00] <raf256_> kitche: -j 2 would go almost twice faster on dual core
[02:00] <delire> Who_: it'll do it's best..
[02:00] <raf256_> Flannel: I bought a newspaper with 3 dvds
[02:01] <Flannel> jman8888: through a lib like caca or aa, pipe the output (usually -vo) through them
[02:01] <unikon> Does anyone have the ubuntu book?
[02:01] <Max_-> Flannel, , cant find it in the add/remove, should I install adept .. or is it somewhere else.. or under another name?
[02:01] <imperfect-> raf256_ : well that;'s not entirely true..
[02:01] <kitche> raf256_ imperfect: I get that but I run a coreduo and it goes faster then my celeron
[02:01] <jrib> jman8888: mplayer -vo caca /path/to/movie   for example
[02:01] <Who_> delire: these aren't already in my menu.lst  or as a template in it
[02:01] <eyequeue> raf256_, that command will work, presuming you enabled the universe repo of course
[02:01] <raf256_> imperfect-: it is
[02:01] <imperfect-> raf256_ :it will only do a multiple compile in the current directoty.
[02:01] <raf256_> eyequeue: I think it is on by fedfuault ther
[02:01] <totall_6_7> delire: when it happened to me i was the one who had changed the permissions, you should change the permissions back so that you as the owner are the only one who can write and execute, and the group can read
[02:01] <delire> Who_: that's fine..
[02:01] <totall_6_7> that fixed it for me
[02:01] <raf256_> eyequeue: it will ask me to put in the DVD?
[02:01] <Flannel> Max_-: build-essential, it'll be in apt-get, or whatever GUI you use, or 'sudo apt-get install build essential' will do it
[02:01] <Flannel> raf256_: yes
[02:01] <Who_> delre: thanks, I'll try now and look at the new menu.list :)
[02:01] <raf256_> imperfect-: ah, yes.
[02:02] <imperfect-> raf256_ : if i could continue going through and not get stuck on certain directories..it'd be better
[02:02] <jman8888> jrib: Does it stay in the terminal windows?
[02:02] <eyequeue> raf256_, default is main and restricted, uncoment universe and multiverse if oyu want those, then suso apr-get update
[02:02] <imperfect-> I generally do twice the number of cores
[02:02] <Flannel> jman8888: yes, it'll use ASCII art
[02:02] <delire> totall_6_7: yes, a chmod 644 should do it. or just a chown -R user ~/ and then a chmod -R ug+rw ~/ i guess
[02:02] <raf256_> eyequeue: how to edit the list of enabled repos, other then vi/vim/nano etc?
[02:02] <eyequeue> raf256_, if the package is on the dvd, yes, it will otherwise use the network
[02:02] <unix_infidel> anyone know how i can get gtk icon themes to work in ubuntu without having gnome installed.
[02:02] <Flannel> raf256_: you mean trhough a gui? gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:02] <jman8888> jrib: Can it get it thru SSH?
[02:02] <raf256_> hmm well I ment .. well ok
[02:02] <Flannel> jman8888: yes
[02:03] <eyequeue> raf256_, you have it, sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list (&& sudo apt-get update)
[02:03] <imperfect-> I just sid a make old config
[02:03] <Who_> delire: do I have to be careful choosing between /dev/hda and /dev/hda1?
[02:03] <delire> totall_6_7: actually i meant chmod -R u+rw ;)
[02:03] <imperfect-> er did
[02:03] <jman8888> Flannel: How?
[02:03] <imperfect-> I hope it works well ;)
[02:03] <totall_6_7> delire: lol
[02:03] <delire> Who_: yes, install onto /dev/hda
[02:03] <Asc> jrib: does this -vo caca thing do actual video?  Like in a tty?
[02:03] <delire> totall_6_7: i'll pass that on.
[02:03] <Outerlimit> !paste
[02:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:03] <jman8888> mplayer -vo caca<EMAIL_ADDRESS>/home/backup/video/1.avi?
[02:03] <Who_> delire: you got time/patientce to explain what happens if I use /dev/hda1?
[02:04] <Flannel> jman8888: same was as normal.  for instance: 'mplayer [path]  -vo caca' if you'veinstalled lib-caca
[02:04] <unix_infidel> uahhh, anyone?
[02:04] <delire> totall_6_7: thanks. glad to know someone else was bitten..
[02:04] <delire> Who_: it's very late here. i'm off to bed. better to ask as slightly more awake human ;)
[02:04] <totall_6_7> delire: you are welcome
[02:04] <delire> Who_: good lucj
[02:04] <delire> *luck
[02:04] <Who_> delire: thanks :)
[02:04] <Flannel> jman8888: no, you're already connected through ssh when you do it.
[02:04] <unix_infidel> i've made the proper entries in .gtkrc-2.0
[02:04] <Flannel> jman8888: or you can ssh [mplayer etc]  to do it in one command
[02:05] <Who_> delire: the key seemed to be --recheck
[02:05] <jman8888> Flannel: Is lib-coco in the repositories?
[02:05] <jman8888> Flannel: Or whatever it was called.
[02:05] <jrib> Asc: yes
[02:06] <jrib> Asc: well, ascii video
[02:06] <Flannel> jman8888: caca-utils will do it
[02:06] <Asc> jrib: I'll bet that makes it hard to read subtitles
[02:06] <jrib> Asc: lol
[02:07] <Xordan> Hey, I'm having problems running gdmsetup. I get this output when I try to run it: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AM1my641.html
[02:07] <PopeOfWar> I have a Creative Soundblaster X-Fi sound card... how do I install it?'
[02:07] <Xordan> I see several people having trouble on the forums with no answer on how to fix it... any ideas here?
[02:07] <Xordan> I've tried reinstalling gdm
[02:07] <jrib> Xordan: is gdm running?
[02:07] <Max_-> Flannel, what can I answer to this :   What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?
[02:07] <Xordan> jrib: I assume so...
[02:08] <Xordan> I'll check
[02:08] <Max_-> there is nothing in the /usr/src
[02:08] <Flannel> Max_-: you need to install the linux-headers first
[02:08] <Flannel> !tell Max_- about compile
[02:08] <frying_fish> Max_-: you will need to download the linux-headers package
[02:08] <Xordan> jrib: Yes
[02:08] <Max_-> Flannel, apt-get install linux-headers ???
[02:08] <Who_> for some reason, update-grub --recheck /dev/hda doesn't seem to find all my OSes (ubuntu or SUSE or Fedora) - anyone know why?
[02:09] <Who_> no, I lie, I mean grub-install
[02:09] <hister> I followed the howto on enabling dvd playback. When I double click on a dvd thats on my desktop, it says cannot open pmount. When I try to open disc from VLC, it does not do anything. Any ideas?
[02:09] <eyequeue> Who_, i can't explain the why, but i found it works once, but on reinstall (of edgy, over and over) it doesn't sense them
[02:09] <jrib> Xordan: permissions on /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf are ok?
[02:10] <eyequeue> Who_, it's as if it is a "one-shot deal" somehow
[02:10] <Who_> eyequeue: yea, I think it uses whatever is _in_ the bootloader somehow
[02:10] <Xordan> jrib: -rw-r--r--
[02:10] <Flannel> Max_-: sorry, that link doesn't have it.  um, linux-headers-arch where arch is your kernels arch
[02:10] <jackson> how do I enable apm in my kernel so that I can use apmd?
[02:10] <Who_> eyequeue: I mean the bootsector: time for bed :P
[02:10] <jrib> Xordan: check /etc/gdm/gdm.conf too since I'm not sure what it uses
[02:11] <eyequeue> Who_, ahh, could be, i had dapper there at first *nod*
[02:11] <NET||abuse> hi, i'm trying to get some compiz magic working, but apparently the packages aren't right on the debs at the mo, so i'm compiling up my own deb for now.. but i get this error error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:11] <backlit> does anyone know where gnome-screensaver is supposed to start?
[02:11] <Who_> eyequeue: yea, I don't know when I lost all mine though... curious
[02:11] <NET||abuse> error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:11] <Xordan> jrib: Same
[02:11] <eyequeue> Who_, i think you solved my mystery, thanks :)
[02:11] <dad> I can't seem to get my linux install back, I've tried looking through the forums and tried as couple of different things, i downloaded a grub boot image a made a boot cd but the didn't work, can somehelp?
[02:11] <Who_> I have about 6 OSes on this PC and I don't want to do it all by hand!
[02:11] <jrib> NET||abuse: install build-essential
[02:11] <Max_-> Flannel, well.. okay it just listed me tons of linux-headers packages... I guess in my case linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386 2.6.15-27.48 should do it
[02:11] <jrib> Xordan: are those files blank?
[02:11] <backlit> somehow it refuses to recognize my "lock screen" keyboard shortcut, but otherwise starts and runs normally
[02:12] <NET||abuse> jrib, thanks
[02:12] <eyequeue> Who_, can you boot to some other os via rescue cd, and run grub from that first?
[02:12] <backlit> occasionally it comes back (the keyboard shortcut), so it is quite annoying...
[02:12] <Xordan> jrib: No
[02:12] <Who_> eyequeue: the rescue CD? I dunno, tell me more :)
[02:12] <cartufer> after i got access to an ntfs drive wut should i use to back it up to multiple dvds?
[02:13] <Who_> dad: do you still have GRUB as your bootloader or has it been replaced?
[02:13] <jackson> how do I enable APM in my kernel so that I can use apmd?
[02:13] <jrib> Xordan: hmm... strange.  I've seen this once before but it was because the user had kdm running instead of gdm.  Are you running this with 'sudo gdmsetup'?
[02:13] <dad> i installed xp recently
[02:13] <Who_> cartufer: k3b is a bit like nero
[02:13] <eyequeue> Who_, say you have a working menu.lst on suse, boot to suse and update-grub, then to ubuntu and do so :)
[02:13] <PopeOfWar> Where do I get Linux drivers for a Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic sound card??
[02:13] <Who_> dad: ahhhh :) the link the bot sent you about restoring ubuntu doesn't work
[02:13] <Who_> ?
[02:13] <Xordan> jrib: Yup
[02:13] <Xordan> heh :)
[02:14] <dad> no, i can't see were to type in rescue
[02:14] <eyequeue> Who_, saying that poorly, but the idea was to get the os's into the bootsector so it can find them, if that helps
[02:14] <Who_> eyequeue :) yea, but how do I boot to grub (in fact, I am just going to swipe the relevant lines from the menu.lst on Suse's boot partition :))
[02:14] <dad> I just typed it at the splash screen but it booted normal
[02:14] <Who_> dad: did you boot from a cd?
[02:14] <Xordan> PopeOfWar: There aren't any as far as I know
[02:14] <dad> So i clicked on the install icon on the desktop and it went throught the normal install process
[02:14] <jrib> Xordan: ok is xdm or kdm running?
[02:15] <PopeOfWar> !soundcard
[02:15] <eyequeue> Who_, yeah, i paste lines from edgy into dapper and vice versa, every time one or the other has a new kernel
[02:15] <dad> yes
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <Who_> dad: if it was a Dapper CD you may have needed to choose the 'more options' section and type rescue there (it gives you a box)
[02:15] <dad> yeah i did the
[02:15] <PopeOfWar> Xordan: Right, there aren't any on creative.com... but I was hoping to find something that, at least, worked, lol
[02:15] <kitche> PopeOfWar: should be able to get drivers for it from Creative's website
[02:16] <PopeOfWar> kitche: Read above^^
[02:16] <dad> I typed it at the end of the option string that pops up  with ti
[02:16] <Xordan> jrib: Nope
[02:16] <Who_> dad: I have never used Dapper in rescue mode so I don't know I'm afraid :) people have said the installer _looks_ like it is in normal mode but in fact it is not...does that make sense? did it ask you to partition your disjks?
[02:16] <kitche> PopeOfWar: they do have a website
[02:16] <Who_> dad: are you in the live environment now?
[02:16] <sycho> I want to change my view settings from icons to lists in all my directories. How can I change them all at once instead of setting each folder individually?
[02:16] <eyequeue> Who_, after the -- ?  will dad's "rescue" be seen there?
[02:16] <dad> no, not anymore
[02:17] <jrib> Xordan: are all the posts you saw on the forums very recent?
[02:17] <jman8888> Flannel: Text Video is awesome
[02:17] <Xordan> jrib: Yeah they are
[02:17] <Who_> eyequeue: I don't know - perhaps I don't rememberthe live CD boot very well....
[02:17] <Xordan> Within a few days
[02:17] <PopeOfWar> kitche: Yes, creative.com. They have no available XtremeMusic drivers for Linux
[02:17] <jrib> Xordan: are you using unofficial repositories?
[02:17] <dad> i gothropugh the disk partition portion of the installer and after that it start installing
[02:17] <dad> I don't want it to write over stuuf
[02:17] <Xordan> jrib: Does edgy count as unofficial? :)
[02:17] <Who_> dad: did you stop it before it started overwriting?
[02:18] <dad> yes
[02:18] <jrib> Xordan: doh, get to #ubuntu+1 for edgy support please :)
[02:18] <Xordan> jrib: My bad, thanks :)
[02:18] <eyequeue> Who_, it consused me, it seems to ignore the rescue bootparam, but maybe that's because it has a special initrd on that line already?
[02:18] <jman8888> Why is mplayer telling me my pc is to old to play video?
[02:18] <jman8888> Its not...
[02:18] <Who_> dad: cool:) I know this is of no consolation now, but if install again you may want to have a separate / and /home partition - it means you can overwrite sysfiles without your presonal stuff :)
[02:19] <jman8888> Its playing it right now acctually. With no problems.
[02:19] <DracIIci> I just tried to boot into a newly installed 2.6.15-27-686 kernel and I got a kernel panic. It claims that it can't find my root filesystem, even though it's set to the right location. What gives?
[02:19] <Who_> dad: did the wiki give instructiuons for accessing the grub console from  the live CD?
[02:19] <jrib> jman8888: sometimes it's forced to skip frames.  #mplayer probably knows exactly what that error means
[02:19] <kitche> PopeOfWar: it should work with the Sound Blaster Xi-Fi drivers? make sure that everything is unmuted
[02:19] <dad> no
[02:19] <Who_> eyequeue: that's beyond me :)
[02:19] <hister> I followed the howto on enabling dvd playback. When I double click on a dvd thats on my desktop, it says cannot open pmount. When I try to open disc from VLC, it does not do anything. Any ideas?
[02:19] <dad> i have a seperate boot cd to access grub
[02:19] <Max_-> ... and I still have that trouble with the resolution I can't figure out where's the problem... is gnome really stuck at such a low resolution?  and worst is that I have a widescreen and it's a fullscreen resolution :P hah.. help please someone ... I'll go crazy, everything is so big! :P
[02:19] <Who_> dad: I'll go hunting - easier to find if you know what you're looking for
[02:19] <Who_> :)
[02:20] <dad> thanx
[02:20] <dad> I went to http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore
[02:20] <Cymage> max_, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:21] <dad> i didn't work for me
[02:21] <NewbieLinux22> i need help installing ubuntu linux
[02:21] <sycho> I want to change my view settings from icons to lists in all my directories. How can I change them all at once instead of setting each folder individually?
[02:21] <Who_> dad:I think I used this successfully once :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=grub+restore+live
[02:22] <dad> othanks, ill try it
[02:22] <Cymage> max_, make that  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:22] <PopeOfWar> kitche: X-Fi *IS* soundblaster!!
[02:22] <kitche> PopeOfWar: I know
[02:22] <newbuntu> hello
[02:23] <NewbieLinux22> can you pls help me installing my ubuntu firts time to use linux
[02:23] <Who_> newbuntu: hello :)
[02:23] <Max_-> ohh okay Cymage trying this
[02:23] <kitche> PopeOfWar: surprise that ubuntu doesn't have support already since there is a kernel module for it
[02:23] <dfgas> is there a way to apt-get e.17?
[02:23] <PopeOfWar> kitche: Well... there aren't any "SoundBlaster" drivers... you can get X-Fi drivers... Audigy drivers...
[02:23] <newbuntu> can anyone please tell me how to uncompress an ace file?  I have unace and such but i cant seem to figure out how to open one
[02:23] <Cymage> newbie, ill try, whats the prob?
[02:23] <PopeOfWar> kitche: If I download the kernel module, would the card work?
[02:24] <kitche> PopeOfWar: should be already made unless it's not made by default
[02:24] <Who_> newbuntu: what did you try?
[02:24] <newbuntu> unace non-free
[02:24] <NewbieLinux22> cd live
[02:24] <dad> thanks who,
[02:24] <newbuntu> I used man but cant find an easy command line
[02:24] <sycho> anybody at least point me to the right place I can figure out how to do it myself? I keep just getting info on changing themes
[02:24] <NewbieLinux22> PC (Intel x86) desktop CD   free verrsion
[02:24] <dad> I have been trying that for the past hgalf hour
[02:25] <dad> I've been putting in setup (hd1)
[02:25] <Cymage> newbielinux22, and the problem is?
[02:25] <Who_> sycho: at a guess, use gconf :)
[02:25] <dad> i did hd0 and it worked go figure
[02:25] <sycho> thanks
[02:25] <NewbieLinux22> when i click install from desktop to slow to response
[02:26] <Who_> dad: glad it worked
[02:26] <Cymage> newbielinux22, how much ram u got?
[02:26] <Max_-> video cart bus identifier??? how do I know?  they suggest PCI:1:0:0  but well.....
[02:26] <Who_> sycho: I am not sure, but I'd say gconf-editor is your friend
[02:27] <NewbieLinux22> 192 ram 40 gb pentium 3
[02:27] <sycho> Who_: would seem to me that there would be an options to set all the directories like the current directory
[02:27] <Who_> sycho: /apps/nautilus/preferences/default_folder_viewer is the thing to change :)
[02:27] <h00t> hello can anyone help me .. i had a good ubuntu (latest) installed ... i but i installed XP which (of course) overwrote mbr ... how can i fix this
[02:27] <NewbieLinux22> 700 megahertz
[02:27] <sycho> Who_: I just hate icons for displaying files. I like the lists.
[02:27] <jrib> ubotu: tell h00t about grub
[02:27] <Who_> sycho: hmm, not the GNOME way, I think (Gnome tends to aim to believe in setting good defaults and trying to recuce the number of things a user has to deal with...)
[02:28] <sethk> h00t, reinstall grub
[02:28] <Cymage> newbielinux22, download the x86 alternate cd, use it. Minumum sys req for ubuntu live is 192 so u are at bare min
[02:28] <Who_> sycho - you know how to change the gconf key, or you want help?
[02:28] <kitche> h00t: have to use the grub rescue cd
[02:28] <h00t> jrib .. the problem is that my system don't have floppy
[02:28] <sethk> kitche, no, he can use the live cd
[02:28] <jrib> h00t: you don't need a floppy
[02:28] <h00t> i got live cd ...
[02:28] <h00t> what exactly do i have to do
[02:28] <kitche> sethk: that's the same thing really
[02:29] <sycho> Who_: Where do I find gconf? then I'll take a look and let you know. :)
[02:29] <mluser-work> can anyone tell me what the repository for edgy is?
[02:29] <Who_> h00t: dad just had success following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=grub+restore+live
[02:29] <sethk> kitche, it's likely he has the live cd, and would have to download a grub rescue cd, so operationally it is not
[02:29] <jrib> h00t: the page ubotu sent you has step by step instructions
[02:29] <Who_> sycho: it is a big XML store - you can edit using gconf-editor
[02:29] <Max_-> No idea at all about this?
[02:29] <sethk> Max_-, lspci will give you the ID you need
[02:30] <Max_-> thx
[02:30] <Rehinold> hi
[02:30] <sycho> Who_: Alright I think I need help. :) This is alot more difficult than I figured.
[02:31] <Rehinold> do you know what's the software to make videos of your own desktop? (like the videos on youtube of xgl)
[02:31] <Who_> sycho: Okay, have you run gconf-editor
[02:31] <jrib> Rehinold: istanbul , if it works for you
[02:31] <Who_> Rehinold: you can use xvidcap
[02:31] <sycho> Who_: Would  a set all directories option kill them? :)
[02:31] <Rehinold> Who_: thanks
[02:31] <sycho> Who_: not yet
[02:31] <Who_> sycho: ohhh, you never know :P
[02:31] <Who_> sycho: okay, at a terminal type 'gconf-editor'
[02:31] <sycho> Who_: ok
[02:32] <dad> can someone tell me how to  edit themes
[02:32] <dad> i mean select a theme
[02:32] <jrib> dad: art.gnome.org has a tutorial on creating themes that would probably be helpful
[02:32] <h00t> thanx guys ... i will print it and try this stuff
[02:33] <jrib> dad: for selecting themes:  system > preferences > themes
[02:33] <Max_-> sethk, 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 7145  ------  0000:01:00.0  ... so this would be PCI:1:0:0 ??
[02:33] <Who_> sycho: now navigate to apps/nautilus/preferences
[02:33] <Who_> there should be a 'default folder view' option there
[02:33] <dad> my sons computer is missing that line in the menu
[02:33] <sycho> Who_: there.
[02:34] <Who_> sycho: see the 'default folder view' key?
[02:34] <jrib> dad: do you know if you are using GNOME?
[02:34] <dad> yes
[02:34] <sycho> Who_: yup.
[02:34] <Who_> sycho: it is in fact 'default folder viewing' and should be set to 'list_view'
[02:34] <jrib> dad: run
[02:34] <jrib> dad: run gnome-theme-manager from a terminal
[02:35] <grouchytim> dad:  goto system : preferences : theme
[02:35] <dad> thanx
[02:35] <chuckyp> dad, or just click System > preferences > theme
[02:35] <blind> Okay, I ordered a Geforce FX 5200, popped it in, and I'm not quite sure how to get my display switched from my onboard over to that.
[02:35] <chuckyp> !tell blind about nvidia
[02:35] <Who_> sycho: it works?
[02:35] <sycho> Who_: your a fuckin god.. :) thank you
[02:36] <kitche> !language
[02:36] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:36] <Who_> sycho: just while you're there, take a peek in the 'icon_view' section and see if you can change things to the way you like them :)
[02:36] <grouchytim> blind:  run this     dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:36] <Max_-> ?
[02:36] <sycho> Who_: going to thanks a bunches. didn't know about gconf
[02:36] <Who_> sycho: it's pretty handy once every so often :)
[02:38] <sycho> who_: BTW: know how to get a script to echo the last 6 lines of text? I'm trying to modify a script for repairing par2 files. As its set now it creates a whole log file. but I would prefer just to echo the last 6 lines.
[02:38] <NewbieLinux22> do you the site of gnome desktop?
[02:39] <Max_-> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 7145  ------  0000:01:00.0  ... so this would be PCI:1:0:0 ??
[02:39] <jman8888> Oh. On my other PC Gnome is still Broke. (The Screen flickers. It fails to start X. Im left with a terminal..)
[02:39] <Who_> sycho: 'fraid I don't know :) there is an echo command, but I don't know more than that - i have done very little bash scripting :)
[02:40] <sycho> Who_: cool. thanks anyways. thanks alot for the help
[02:40] <fernando> how can i do a system backup
[02:40] <brian98> sycho: tail nameoffile
[02:40] <Cymage> jman8888, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:40] <NewbieLinux22> do you know where i can get gnome desktop enviroment?
[02:40] <sycho> brian98: that would echo the last 6 lines?
[02:41] <brian98> if you tell it to
[02:41] <jrib> NewbieLinux22: install ubuntu-desktop
[02:41] <jrib> NewbieLinux22: what are you using now?
[02:41] <grouchytim> does anyone else feel retarded when they can fix something on one machine but can't replicate the fix on an identical system and problem?
[02:41] <sycho> brian98: cool thanks
[02:41] <fernando> my vmware server doens not work can some one help me fix it
[02:42] <brian98> sycho: tail /var/log/messages -n 6
[02:42] <NewbieLinux22> bayanihan linux
[02:43] <Isaiah_the_Marty> how do i find my own ip?
[02:43] <Isaiah_the_Marty> i did netstat but it has alot of other stuff and its hard to decipher
 locally or on the internet ?
[02:43] <grouchytim> www.whatismyip.com
[02:43] <Isaiah_the_Marty> both would be good
[02:43] <grouchytim> or ifconfig
[02:43] <grouchytim> both will tell you
[02:43] <Isaiah_the_Marty> whats ifconfig?
[02:43] <Isaiah_the_Marty> i'm new at this
 what he says
[02:43] <Isaiah_the_Marty> alright thanks
[02:44] <grouchytim> np
[02:44] <chronic1> anyone here have monkeys audio (ape) working in the latest release of ubuntu?
[02:44] <jman8888> Is there a way to log into ssh visually(Like see the desktop?)
[02:44] <grouchytim> use remote desktop
[02:44] <brian98> jman888: nomachine.com the best way
[02:44] <brian98> vnc the slow way
[02:44] <brian98> :)
[02:44] <Isaiah_the_Marty> can someone get me unbanned from #wrongplanet
[02:44] <jman8888> How do i set up vnc.
[02:45] <Isaiah_the_Marty> i'm at my school and it says i'm banned
[02:45] <chronic1> Isaiah_the_Marty: is it a nick ban or a net ban?
[02:45] <brian98> !vnc
[02:45] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[02:45] <Max_-> Could it be that.....       0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 7145  ------  0000:01:00.0  ... so is my PCI:1:0:0 ??
[02:45] <Isaiah_the_Marty> i'm not sure
[02:45] <SpaceFrog> Hey guys. How can i change the permissions on /var/www/ so that i can write to it without sudo ?
[02:45] <Isaiah_the_Marty> it just says im banned chronic1
[02:45] <Isaiah_the_Marty> and i havnet been there in like six weeks
[02:45] <chronic1> Isaiah_the_Marty: they might have your net/host banned because of abuse from other students
[02:45] <Isaiah_the_Marty> can i get around that somehow?
[02:46] <Rehinold> xvidcap: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:46] <Rehinold> damn
[02:46] <blind> Trying to install the nvidia drivers gives me a 404...
[02:46] <chronic1> spoof your ip or go to a different network
[02:46] <chronic1> maybe use a proxy?
[02:46] <Isaiah_the_Marty> how can i spoof
[02:46] <chronic1> but you can change your nick and ident to see if it is local to you
[02:47] <EnsignRedshirt> Rehinold: Install libpng
[02:47] <grouchytim> blind:  did you do that X11 thing?
[02:47] <Isaiah121> i've tried other nicks christel
[02:47] <blind> yeah, grouchy. but that's not the issue..
[02:47] <Isaiah121> chronic1*
[02:47] <Isaiah121> i think its netban
[02:47] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: can you help me in that?
[02:47] <grouchytim> ok i'm sorry then
[02:47] <Isaiah121> i know a couple other kids that go there from my class
[02:47] <chronic1> Isaiah121: well -- it isn't as simple as changing your nick
[02:48] <EnsignRedshirt> Rehinold: Do you prefer command line or GUI?
[02:48] <chronic1> ah hah, that is good possibility
[02:48] <grouchytim> you're trying to install nVidia drivers?
[02:48] <blind> yes
[02:48] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: it's the same, important is to fix the problem
[02:48] <Max_-> sethk, are you there?
[02:48] <Isaiah121> can someone just message them to unban it?
[02:48] <juan> m
[02:48] <EnsignRedshirt> Rehinold: In Synaptic, search for libpng
[02:48] <juan> madden
[02:48] <grouchytim> sorry but i'm really not that savy
[02:48] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: ok
[02:48] <bruenig> apt-cache search libpng
[02:49] <grouchytim> i'd check the forums
[02:49] <EnsignRedshirt> Rehinold: You'll find several packages like libpng## (where ## is some number).
[02:49] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: alrigh
[02:49] <chronic1> anyone here familiar with the ape music format?
[02:49] <Max_-> or anyone who knows about pci bus IDs...
[02:49] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: I'm on it
[02:49] <tainted_> how do i disable a service?
[02:49] <tainted_> from terminal
[02:50] <bruenig> tainted_, what service
[02:50] <tainted_> gnome
[02:50] <grouchytim> lol that's a good service
[02:50] <bruenig> you want to disable gnome?
[02:50] <IGS|OFF> Hey guys :D
[02:50] <IGS|OFF> i am n00b on ubuntu
[02:50] <Protostar> Hi, I'm trying to mount a floppy disk in Kubuntu and cannot figure out how
[02:50] <IGS|OFF> is it only 1 cd?
[02:50] <IGS|OFF> for install :S
[02:50] <Cymage> isaiah121, a message from us won't unban u.  They banned the school for a reason, whatever that reason is
[02:50] <tainted_> um
[02:50] <bruenig> IGS|OFF, yes
[02:50] <tainted_> gnome/gdm whatever
[02:50] <IGS|OFF> bruenig thx
[02:50] <EnsignRedshirt> Rehinold: I am using breezy, so I have libpng12-0 installed. It is probably a higher version number if you are using dapper.
[02:50] <tainted_> i just don't want it to go into gnome on boot up
[02:50] <IGS|OFF> i used slack before ^^ , and that is like 4cds :P
[02:51] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: I have installed 12-0
[02:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Rehinold: Did you just install it, or was it already installed?
[02:51] <IGS|OFF> soo
[02:51] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: it seems to be installed because the square before the name is colored
[02:51] <grouchytim> correct me if i'm wrong but don't you want to change the run level on bootup from level 5? to 3?
[02:51] <IGS|OFF> i am going to use ubuntu to whine and play games
[02:51] <IGS|OFF> what ubuntu realease should i use
[02:51] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: i did nothing
[02:51] <grouchytim> so it will just stay command line correct?
[02:51] <warpzone> hey guys, quick question, is there no linux-restricted-modules package for the 2.6.15-27-386 kernel?
[02:51] <tainted_> grouchytim yes
[02:51] <bruenig> IGS|OFF, 6.06
[02:51] <georgy> tainted: chosse your session in the login manager
[02:52] <IGS|OFF> yeah i know that to
[02:52] <IGS|OFF> but alternate, powerpc, and so on
[02:52] <chuckyp> warpzone, there should be
[02:52] <bruenig> IGS|OFF, desktop
[02:52] <IGS|OFF> or just 1386?
[02:52] <IGS|OFF> okey
[02:52] <IGS|OFF> thx
[02:52] <grouchytim> i did that once before about 4 years ago but i couldn't tell you how to do it in grub.....that was lilo
[02:52] <chuckyp> !tell warpzone about linux-restricted-modules
[02:52] <gnomefreak> warpzone: there is
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-restricted-modules - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <grouchytim> but i'm sure you can do it in grub too
[02:52] <IGS|OFF> desktop 1386 ;=
[02:52] <Protostar> anyone know how to mount a floppy in Kubuntu? I know this is a noob question but it worked in Ubuntu and I can't figure out how to get it working in KDE
[02:52] <tainted_> georgy which sesison should i choose
[02:52] <warpzone> I look on adept (im using kde) and I only see -23 and -26
[02:52] <EnsignRedshirt> Rehinold: OK, you already have a version of libpng installed.  So now the question is why xvidcap couldn't use it.
[02:53] <sycho> brian98: how would I modify "tail /var/log/messages -n 6" to echo the last things that were printed in the terminal window?
[02:53] <bruenig> IGS|OFF, yeah, but it is i386 just an FYI
[02:53] <blind> Is there a repo down or something? trying to apt-get nvidia-glx-legacy gets a 404.
[02:53] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: the error was this
[02:53] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: xvidcap: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:53] <georgy> tainted: do ou have kde or similar installed ?
[02:53] <tainted_> i just want to disable X / gnome from bootup
[02:53] <Lecksfrawen> Hi, I was using the partitioner of  the Ubuntu Desktop LiveCD, I reduced the size of my NFTS partition, then created a Swap and a EXT3 partition,
[02:53] <Lecksfrawen> I created them as primary partitions.. since the menu suggested it.
[02:53] <Lecksfrawen> After this, it asked me where to install Ubuntu, but the new partitions I made said they were about 0 KB, so I returned to check and see if had to resize them again.... and to my surprise the NFTS partition I had existed no more, it only displayed a single partition with no file system assigned to it.
[02:53] <Lecksfrawen> Obviously WinXP doesn't recognize now my harddrive... and strangely the Ubuntu CD doesn't boot anymore.
[02:53] <Lecksfrawen> My Hdrive has lots of files I use daily (my WinXP is installed on other Hdrive), is there any way to recover that NFTS partition I had before?
[02:53] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: it seems there is a .2
[02:53] <blind> tainted_: what do you want to boot into?
[02:53] <tainted_> blind shell
[02:53] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: maybe that's the error
[02:53] <bruenig> !enter
[02:53] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:53] <blind> tainted: oh.
[02:54] <IGS|OFF> bruenig check privv
[02:54] <jman8888> how can i change a users pass in terminal?
[02:54] <blind> passwd
[02:54] <tainted_> no one knows?
[02:54] <georgy> tainted : you mean you want only the command line ?
[02:54] <tainted_> YES
[02:54] <sethk> Lecksfrawen, possibly, if the partition hasn't been overwritten, only the partition table, then you can get it back.
[02:54] <bruenig> tainted_, I assume that is dictated in /etc/init.d, figure out what script does that and move it or change it or do whatever you like
[02:55] <georgy> tainted : wait a moment
[02:55] <Max_-> sethk, 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 7145  ------  0000:01:00.0  ... so this would be PCI:1:0:0 ??
[02:55] <tainted_> which script is it
[02:55] <M_Fatih> hi all
[02:55] <sethk> Max_-, yes
[02:55] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: ok i found this http://www.jarre-de-the.net/faq/index.php?sid=56033&lang=en&action=artikel&cat=&id=372&artlang=en
[02:55] <IGS|OFF> i got ati x800xt pro, does the ati drives on www.ati.com for linux work on obuntu also?
[02:56] <Isaiah121> is there any pdf's on the net about cool hacks or mods you can do for ubuntu?
[02:56] <bruenig> !ati
[02:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:56] <Isaiah121> i know theres a hardcopy
[02:56] <eXey> thx
[02:56] <M_Fatih> i have a problem with pearpc 4* verison :[ i want to open my macosximage phanter.img, pearpc return this error "[IO/IDE]  <Error> test/imgs/linux.img: could not open file (No such file or directory)" what is this, how can i fix this?
[02:56] <EnsignRedshirt> Rehinold: You could try that.  I don't know much about the subtleties of library names--I had hoped it was as simple as installing a missing library.  Maybe someone else has a clue.
[02:56] <viator> use the xp cd and try the recovery console
[02:57] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: ok
[02:57] <georgy> tainted : watch /etc/initab
[02:57] <Max_-> sethk, it asks the amount of ram to be used by my video card....  it's suposed to be 128 native and 128 shared...  so it will used it's 128 itself and I should specify there the 128 mb to take from my RAM?
[02:58] <EnsignRedshirt> Rehinold: Both libpng10-0 and libpng2 (older libpng repositories) are available in breezy.  I don't know about dapper.
[02:58] <sethk> Max_-, almost always, you should not specify ram
[02:58] <roger_> Roger, entrando no canal com boa-noite a todos (as)
[02:58] <EnsignRedshirt> Rehinold: (change 'repositories' to 'libraries' in my last message)
[02:58] <sethk> Max_-, except for some very old cards, the server will figure out the amount of ram automatically
[02:58] <Rehinold> no here I haven't the repos
[02:59] <Rehinold> i don't have those lib
[02:59] <sethk> Max_-, with an ati card, you shouldn't have to specify anything, really, it will probe for everything and more or less just work.  Or, at least, just work as well as the ati drivers can work.
[02:59] <whosit> any info on getting a CXT Soft V.90 modem working?
[02:59] <roger_> Roger saindo
[02:59] <Wabs> Hi, i'm trying to configure my USB wireless card for Ubuntu 6.06 and I was wondering if I could get some help?
[02:59] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: in repos there are only newer versiobs
[03:00] <georgy> tainted : sorry, watch /etc/inittab
[03:00] <Cymage> wabs, what chipset?
[03:00] <sethk> Max_-, normally it will figure out the PCI bus identifier also.  I wonder why it didn't?  or are you just verifying that it did?
[03:00] <illusina> hi...I'm getting all sorts of interesting apt-get errors regarding dependencies for simple packages after I tried to do a dist-upgrade which semi-failed
[03:00] <Wabs> It's a Buffalo AirStation G54
[03:00] <tonyyarusso> whosit: Conexant chipset softmodems work with the linuxant drivers ($20).
[03:00] <mluser-work> Does anyone know of a ubuntu repository where I can get skype?
[03:00] <sethk> illusina, semi-failed?  isn't that like being a little bit pregant?
[03:00] <whosit> Not worth it
[03:00] <EnsignRedshirt> Rehinold: Hmmm... I don't know what to suggest then.
[03:00] <Isaiah121> girls just wanna have fun
[03:00] <whosit> Id rather use external for free :)
[03:01] <Cymage> wabs, prolly have to use ndiswrapper
[03:01] <illusina> sethk: well, I'm not sure if apt-get is transaction sensitive...I'm not sure whether the packages which were successful were commited or not
[03:01] <Wabs> How do I use that, Cymage?
[03:01] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: maybe not installing xvidcap from deb apt
[03:01] <sethk> illusina, hard to say, but you can't assume very much.
[03:01] <Cymage> wabs, is it detecting the card now?
[03:01] <sethk> illusina, you've tried the "fix" options in synaptic?
[03:01] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: it seems a problem of those pkg
[03:01] <illusina> sethk: was using command line
[03:01] <tonyyarusso> !skype
[03:01] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:02] <mluser-work> thx
[03:02] <sethk> illusina, you can do them at the command line also with dpkg
[03:02] <Wabs> Cymage: How would I check?
[03:02] <Max_-> sethk, well I was doing the dpkg-reconfig thing... and it asked these things.. I was just verifying that everything it does it correct...
[03:02] <illusina> sethk: do man dpkg ?
[03:02] <Isaiah121> this place is a sausage fest
[03:02] <Desire> hi
[03:02] <Cymage> wabs, run lspci in terminal
[03:02] <eXey> hmm lol , i just downloaded ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386 but is it says opencd and disctree so wtf :S
[03:02] <dragonfire1> Totem movie player cannot play this type of media DVD because you do not have the appropriate plug ins to handle it . Is there away to get the plug in thanks
[03:03] <georgy> !codecs
[03:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:03] <EnsignRedshirt> Rehinold: The xvidcap deb file appear to be from 2004.  That's old in computer years. :)
[03:03] <Wabs> Cymage: Do you want what comes up?
[03:03] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: :(
[03:03] <eXey> some1 good @ubuntu message me plz
[03:03] <Isaiah121> i did a mod that allowed me to play flash players and xmms at the same time and it worked for a while but now i cant listen to both  anymore
[03:03] <Wabs> I don't see anything pertaining to my USB wireless card though :\
[03:03] <Cymage> wabs, join ##cymage
[03:03] <Isaiah121> does anyone know how to fix this?
[03:04] <sethk> illusina, yes, give man dpkg a try.
[03:04] <sethk> illusina, sorry about the slow response, I'm working at the same time as being here.  :)
[03:04] <viator> exey whatta yo mean
[03:04] <bimberi> eXey: the cd includes a cut-down version of TheOpenCD with a few windows versions of applications on it
[03:04] <eXey> so if i burn it and boot from it
[03:04] <eXey> i install ubunti
[03:04] <eXey> not a fucking livecd?
[03:04] <viator> did you burn the iso to disk as an image
[03:05] <viator> not as a file
[03:05] <EnsignRedshirt> Rehinold: Maybe try the deb file from the sourceforge site: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=81535
[03:05] <eXey> i mounted to file in windows with deamon tools
[03:05] <viator> itis a live cd
[03:05] <cartufer> does ubuntu come with a vnc client?
[03:05] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: i'm trying :P
[03:05] <eXey> and now i am going to burn it
[03:05] <blind> Is there a repo down or something? trying to apt-get nvidia-glx-legacy gets a 404.
[03:05] <Asc> How might one *uninstall* flash player?
[03:05] <viator> once you boot to it you install
[03:05] <bimberi> eXey: language unecessary.  it is a liveCD that can also be installed from
[03:05] <viator> from a desktop icon
[03:05] <eXey> good
[03:05] <eXey> thx
[03:05] <DBO> eXey, less on the swearing next time please =)
[03:05] <eXey> where did i swear :S
[03:06] <keescook> cartufer: yeah, a few I think.  Try "apt-cache search vnc".  I've used xnvcviewer
[03:06] <eXey> oh :P
[03:06] <eXey> sry
[03:06] <chronic1> what is the normal method for installing perl modules in ubuntu -- do you all recomend CPAN?
[03:06] <chronic1> or are their deb installs?
[03:06] <gbutler> OK...finally up on Edgy Eft! Yay!
[03:06] <BIRDSIX> How do I burn an iso to a disc using UBUNTU?
[03:06] <cartufer> ya but i'm in live cd and if i load in too much i freeze
[03:06] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: alright it works :)
[03:06] <EnsignRedshirt> chronic1: First check the ubuntu repostories
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> BIRDSIX: Right-click.
[03:06] <EnsignRedshirt> Rehinold: Cool.
[03:06] <georgy> BIRDSIX, : graveman
[03:06] <Madpilot> BIRDSIX, just find the ISO and put right-click on it, choose Burn To Disc
[03:07] <BIRDSIX> Thank you
[03:07] <dragonfire1> ubotu thanks I will read those areas
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks I will read those areas - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <eXey> Hey, i got on hd on 30gb with windows and shit , and another 1 @ 160gb can i install ubuntu the one @ 160 and get everything to work? :P
[03:07] <viator> if you want more control when burining cd's try gnomebaker
[03:07] <keescook> cartufer: oooh, yeah, not sure about that.
[03:07] <viator> or maybe k3b
[03:08] <cartufer> keescook, i'd use the vnc java client but java firefox extension takes like 56 megs
[03:08] <georgy> eXey, : you can do that
[03:08] <Code-E> How do I use xfce?
[03:08] <eXey> good, cause my friend did that with redhat, and it messed up
[03:08] <docmur> hello all
[03:09] <eXey> hellu
[03:09] <Code-E> Does anybody know how to run xfce?
[03:09] <docmur> is there a software for linux that allows me to block web sites
[03:09] <TTT_Travis> Hi, I am using Ubuntu Server, I want to hibernate but it says I don't have the kernel modules needed to do it, is there a way I can just get them easily or use the normal ubuntu kernel
[03:09] <viator> redhat ppl use that?
[03:09] <viator> lol
[03:09] <forevertheuni__> docmur, iptables ihihiih
[03:09] <pppoe_dude> hrello
[03:10] <georgy> eXey : I don't redhat, but i know ubuntu can do it
[03:10] <eXey> ^^
[03:10] <docmur> do I have to know the ip of the site to use it
[03:10] <EnsignRedshirt> Rehinold: Just FYI: I don't know what you are planning to do with xvidcap, but an alternative to making "videos" is making flash demos with vnc2swf or pyvnc2swf.
[03:10] <Arrick> guys, what would be the smallest drivve that should be used for the default install of ubuntu breezy?
[03:10] <viator> doc what do you measn block websites?
[03:10] <eXey> what does "FYI" mean?
[03:10] <BIRDSIX> Is anyone here A+ certified?
[03:11] <dmb> for your information
[03:11] <Arrick> yes I am
[03:11] <Rehinold> EnsignRedshirt: I would like to make a video with xgl running to show it to a friend
[03:11] <pppoe_dude> there was this command to change the default java interpreter... from gnu's to sun's... any ideas?
[03:11] <Arrick> BIRDSIX,
[03:11] <viator> like keep someone looking at  say myspace.com
[03:11] <Arrick> yes
[03:11] <EnsignRedshirt> eXey: For Your Information, fyi
[03:11] <wenko> i am
[03:11] <eXey> oh :P
[03:11] <docmur> I want to prevent access to a certian page so when someone tries to connect to it they can't
[03:11] <BIRDSIX> arrick, I was just wondering because im bored and I get mine in december. :)
[03:11] <Arrick> haha
[03:11] <viator> if you have a router your better of going that route
[03:11] <BIRDSIX> arrick, Do you work anywhere?
[03:11] <Arrick> yeah, all over
[03:11] <Rehinold> brb ^^
[03:12] <Arrick> just finished a contract job with a School district
[03:12] <BIRDSIX> arrick, you do a lot of projects?
[03:12] <Arrick> yes
[03:12] <`m0> hi, if I deleted the icon for Network-Manager-gnome, from the bar how do I readd it?
[03:12] <BIRDSIX> arrick, Thats what im planning on doing once I get all my certifications
[03:12] <illusina> OSS + GOVT ftw
[03:12] <Trae> On my wifes Ubuntu Desktop, when she hits shift+backspace,  X dies
[03:12] <`m0> I am using http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[03:12] <Trae> wtf is up with that?
[03:12] <viator> set up a hosts file
[03:12] <Flannel> Trae: Xgl?
[03:13] <Arrick> but then, I also have a cna, and an associatess degree as well, working on a bachelors in network security BIRDSIX
[03:13] <Trae> I do it here and it doesn't happen
[03:13] <Trae> Flannel, howdy... she's not running compiz
[03:13] <tristanmike_> Hello, how do I get firefox to recoginze my java, I have "sun-java5-bin" installed from the repos. thanx in advance.
[03:13] <BIRDSIX> Im getting my COMP TIA   PNIE MOS MOUSE AND A+ this year
[03:13] <Trae> butmaybe she has xgl built in to the xserver
[03:13] <BIRDSIX> Im going to a high school that has a Information Technology academy.
[03:13] <eXey> what program to whine games that dont cost money can you give links to ^^
[03:13] <Trae> xgl has been nothing but  a PITA
[03:13] <Trae> IMHO
[03:13] <georgy> Trae : i think she ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:13] <viator> make an /etc/hosts file
[03:13] <Trae> georgy, nope
[03:13] <Flannel> Trae: not unless she tweaked it, should be ctrl-alt-backspace to restart, but in XGL, shift backspace does it too
[03:13] <viator> enter the site you wanna block
[03:14] <neom> Is there a LiveCD version of ubuntu that will work on my macbook?
[03:14] <neom> (intel)
[03:14] <Flannel> neom: yes, the 386 Desktop ISOs
[03:14] <Arrick> get it while you can, because it gets expensive after you're out of highschool
[03:14] <viator> like <IP_ADDRESS> www.myspace.com
[03:14] <Trae> Flannel, yeah, sucks when you are editing an email and hit backspace to clear out a word and then you hit shift to capitalize... and X goes POOF
[03:14] <viator> and then fire up your browser and it should be blocked