[00:53] <de-facto> why is linux audio such an annoying buggy mess?
[00:54] <de-facto> i need to remove hdmi audio completely because both pipewire and pulseaudio wildly switch between hdmi audio and analog audio
[00:54] <de-facto> i just want one audio sink that works stable at constant volume, nothing else
[00:54] <de-facto> it just never worked ever
[00:55] <de-facto> how can i remove all hdmi audio sinks permanently?
[00:57] <rbox> is your hdmi audio provided by the same or a different driver than your non hdmi audio?
[00:57] <de-facto> i think its a different kernel module
[00:57] <rbox> then blacklist the one doing the hdmi
[00:57] <de-facto> but i need hdmi video output its my monitor
[00:57] <de-facto> i did
[01:00] <de-facto> no snd_hda_codec_hdmi but then snd_hda_codec_generic gets loaded
[01:00] <de-facto> its a bit less buggy but still does that wild crazy flickering between output sinks on itself, many times a second
[01:01] <tomreyn> https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/j1jmd2/how_to_blacklist_pulseaudio_hdmi_output/ possibly?
[01:04] <tomreyn> if you'd like to do it with pipewire you'd probably need to do it with wireplumber
[01:05] <de-facto> i think i switched to pipewire time time ago
[01:06] <de-facto> starting wireplumber crashes it LOL
[01:06] <de-facto> sigh
[01:07] <de-facto> i just dont want _ANY_ hdmi audio sink on my system at all
[01:07] <de-facto> remove all the kernel modules for that
[01:07] <de-facto> i dont want to do it in the audio system but on kernel module level
[01:08] <de-facto> the audio systems are too buggy to mess with them, hence if no sink is there they cant try to use one
[01:37] <NewtonPumpkin> why does the terminal app, when in fullscreen, appear behind the app icon bar after standby?
[01:38] <NewtonPumpkin> its a consistient problem on 4k xps laptops from what i can tell
[02:22] <Probasketball> When I try to boot the ubuntu 22.04 live usb once i get past grub it just says "error blacklisting hashes" and freezes, I already tried updating the biod
[03:26] <circle> In the past one could run "init N" to choose a runlevel, and switch between single user, multi-user, and multi-user with GUI. I think systemd has changed this, what is the current way now?
[03:33] <tomreyn> ^ answered in #debian (cross-post)
[03:47] <erick> :3
[03:48] <erick> hamas x israel ><
[04:05] <morgan-u2> yo heart #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:07] <morgan-u2> 22.04 as of the last update the system freezes but not all. I cant restart chrome and I cant shut down or restart computer (except for the off button which I shall do in a moment and then come back) older Dell ubuntu only, 9G RAM. This is new and a bother. (see you on the flip)
[04:46] <morgan-u2> on return.  I went away for a half hour  and then more and then chrome would restart. will test for functions.
[04:48] <morgan-u2> I blame chrome. and something about handing memory. dont know if that is ubuntu but the last update made things bad when they were ok. A freeze is much more difficult to function with and around than the program closing and I can restart it.
[04:48] <morgan-u2> No questions. Just done now. Thanks.
[06:25] <squidles> Evening people
[06:27] <squidles> what's everyone upto
[07:43] <lektor> Hello, hello, what is that authorization key ring showing with an inputbox when I launch skype ?
[07:44] <lektor> "the login keyring did not get unlocked when you log in to this computer ", the funniest is it can be bypassed by constantly pressing ESC
[10:22] <Guest83> Hello, i have connected my monitor to my ubuntu 22.04 machine. It starts up.... and i think it goes to login screen - but i cannot see anything - only gray screen. I can move mouse around and see the cursor also - so screen works fine. I think ubuntu is somehow set to use another screen or something. How do i fix this so i can use it?
[10:27] <Guest83> anyone here?
[10:28] <guiverc> Guest83, I don't know the issue you're describing, but I had an install before where I altered the manner in which screens were connected meaning I missed outout from the DM.. the quick fix I used was switching to another DM (that showed the same on all monitors; connected or not)
[10:28] <guiverc> !patience | guest83
[10:28] <guiverc> People will respond as they're able to.. we have other things we need to do...
[10:28] <Guest83> whats a DM?
[10:29] <guiverc> you've not said what Ubuntu 22.04; but Ubuntu 22.04 Desktop uses the GNOME-display manager (gdm3) that handles the greeter functions
[10:29] <Guest83> ubuntu 22.04 desktop
[10:30] <guiverc> until you login, your desktop/session isn't running; the DM handles the greeter functions .. only after I login can my own system know if I want to login with GNOME, Xfce, LXQt etc.. that I have installed...
[10:30] <Guest83> if i could somehow access the screen setup because it feels like desktop extends beyond the screen
[10:30] <Guest83> so ubuntu somehow should be asked to calibrate to current connected screen
[10:31] <guiverc> Ubuntu isn't running until you login; so your saved settings take effect ONLY after username/password.. as I understaod it your issue is BEFORE login, ie. when only DM is active
[10:32] <guiverc> ^ by Ubuntu I meant Ubuntu Desktop (ie. GNOME)
[10:32] <Guest83> ah i fixed it
[10:32] <Guest83> im brillian
[10:32] <Guest83> t
[10:33] <guiverc> well done guest83
[11:04] <billy_> Hello
[11:10] <lotuspsychj3> welcome billy_
[11:14] <billy_> Thank you, lotuspsychj3!
[11:14] <billy_> This is my first time on IRC.
[11:15] <billy_> Experimenting with the application here.
[11:16] <lotuspsychj3> this is the ubuntu support channel here billy_ you can ask questions here regarding troubles with ubuntu
[11:18] <billy_> Okay. While upgrading the system I get this message: The following packages have been kept back - gjs libgjs0g
[11:19] <ravage> !phasedupdates  | billy_
[11:20] <ravage> short answer: ignore it and just wait until they update
[11:20] <billy_> Alright. Thank you, guys!
[11:20] <ravage> or upgrade now with: sudo apt upgrade gjs libgjs0g
[11:21] <ravage> i do that just because i cant stand it to see updates i dont have yet  :)
[11:22] <billy_> It worked! Thank you, ravage! :)
[12:09] <TomawsCock> Courtney Rickett Gets Gangbanged by the Braves - The Shitty Clarinet - Courtney Rickett takes ecstasy suppositories with Edna Skilton and ends up gangbanged by the Atlanta Braves and consensually sodomized by her trusty clarinet. https://justpaste.it/Courtney_Rickett_Gangbanged
[12:09] <jeremy31> !ops
[12:09] <TomawsCock> Like a bunch of star trek nerds
[12:09] <TomawsCock> channel emmergency
[12:09] <TomawsCock> oh help
[12:10] <TomawsCock> Scotty, how's she holding?
[12:27] <dvan> hi
[12:42] <mrjo> hi
[12:43] <mrjo> i come here because i need support for my launchpad account
[12:43] <mrjo> i cant connect to ubuntu one sso
[12:43] <mrjo> and then i try the reset password fonctionnality, i never receive mail for reset
[12:43] <mrjo> what can i do ?
[12:45] <mrjo> this is my launchpad profile : https://launchpad.net/~mrjo
[12:45] <p_eder> 257<PHONE_NUMBER> 789 5467 5645
[12:47] <jeremy31> mrjo: Did you check spam folder
[12:47] <p_eder> cuidado com android 12 e 13, são vulneraveis a ataques quando estão na mesma rede wifi
[12:47] <mrjo> yep, checked evrywhere
[12:48] <jeremy31> mrjo: contact<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:48] <mrjo> ok i will. Thanks a lot
[14:07] <greentail> Hi. I'm not getting replies in other channels. Am having btrfs IO errors. Any help?  https://0x0.st/HWRJ.txt
[14:12] <lotuspsychj3> greentail: we only support ubuntu and its flavours here
[14:13] <gordonjcp> greentail: is that on Ubuntu?
[14:13] <leftyfb> no, it's archlinux
[14:14] <gordonjcp> leftyfb: it was a rhetorical question
[14:15] <greentail> how are we supposed to know it was a rhetorical question?
[14:15] <leftyfb> greentail: good luck with arch support
[14:15] <gordonjcp> greentail: I don't even see why you think it's btrfs, but I don't use btrfs because it's broken, I don't use Arch because it's broken - Arch being broken is what prompted me to switch to Ubuntu - and I don't use Realtek hardware because it's broken
[14:16] <gordonjcp> leftyfb: Arch's support is generally good
[14:16] <gordonjcp> leftyfb: certainly Ubuntu has *nothing* like as good as the Arch wiki
[14:16] <gordonjcp> no distro does
[14:17] <greentail> gordonjcp, what do you use instead of btrfs?
[14:19] <gordonjcp> ext4
[14:19] <gordonjcp> always just use ext4, unless you need zfs
[14:19] <gordonjcp> (you don't need zfs)
[14:20] <gordonjcp> greentail: also, as previously mentioned, I stopped using Arch because I got sick of it being broken all the time, and Ubuntu is more of a distro for very experienced linux users
[14:21] <greentail> gordonjcp, don't most laptops come with Realtek hardware? What are laptop models that do not use Realtek?
[14:22] <erick> linux realmente e bom ><
[14:24] <greentail> ericsysmin, bom para quem?
[14:25] <Nitrigaur> !pt | greentail
[14:46] <itu> if i accidently close a tab in gnome-terminal i get no confirmation request? i'm sure i got a confirmation request until recently, but not now
[14:47] <itu> how to regain?
[14:48] <jeremy31> itu: I think you only get a confirmation if a process is running in terminal
[14:48] <itu> hmm
[14:48] <leftyfb> itu: there is no "confirmation request" when closing a tab in gnome-terminal
[14:48] <jeremy31> itu: try running "dmesg -w" and try closing it
[14:48] <jeremy31> sudo dmesg -w
[14:49] <leftyfb> ah, there is if you have a running process
[14:51] <itu> ok .. but without confirmation request it really hard to work with gnome-terminal
[14:53] <jeremy31> itu: maybe https://askubuntu.com/a/895073/
[14:54] <itu> thx ... *reading*
[14:54] <gordonjcp> urgh, video editing in things that aren't Resolve
[14:56] <Nitrigaur> Ubuntu 23.04, Dell Latitude 5520, when ejecting a SD card from nautilus, I get the message: "Unable to eject <Volume Name of SD Card> No Object for D-Bus Interface"
[15:01] <itu> gsettings get org.gnome.Terminal.Legacy.Settings confirm-close  still is true :-/
[15:01] <ravage> Nitrigaur: systemctl --user restart gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor
[15:02] <ravage> Nitrigaur: further discusstion at https://askubuntu.com/questions/627621/no-object-for-d-bus-interface-when-mounting-with-nautilus
[15:11]  * itu is still searching for a solution ..
[15:15] <Nitrigaur> ravage, thank you I will try this, though the error message is similar, I have no issues mounting, only *un*-mounting
[15:31] <Nitrigaur> ravage, I tried the sensible options (restarting udisks2.service for instance), but none of these helped. The discussion is rather old and Ubuntu has changed quite a bit since then. gvfsd works correctly when inserting USB sticks, it's just the internal SD card slot that does not eject properly.
[15:53] <Nitrigaur> ravage, I believe the issue I'm running into is more closely related to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1966203 My system probably thinks that the SD card is an (un-ejectable) SSD, the SD-card is listed internally as /dev/mmcblk0p1
[15:53] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1966203 in snapd "journal shows 'systemd-udevd[2837]: nvme0n1: Process ... failed with exit code 1.'" [High, Confirmed]
[15:54] <Nitrigaur> ravage, another entry on askubuntu seems to be related as well: https://askubuntu.com/questions/872183/sd-card-reader-error with one "minor" caveat: This reader device is built-in to my laptop. I cannot switch it out for another one.
[15:55] <fatih> Cenk naber abi, buralarda gormek isteriz
[15:59] <Nitrigaur> !tr | fatih
[15:59] <Nitrigaur> #ravage, thank you, I have to cook now.
[16:14] <ApostleInTriumph> Hello. Since upgrading to ubuntu 22.04, i'm unable to open files on SFTP via 3rd party apps. inbuilt app works perfectly well for the same task. for eg. i can open .py file using gedit but no vscode. Similar happens for other file types. Lastly, all works well for local files
[16:22] <ApostleInTriumph> I am suspecting it's due to gvfs mount. it used to exist in 20.04 but is absent in 22.04. what are my options?
[16:33] <alkisg> ApostleInTriumph: check /run/user/$UID/gvfs. If there's an old plugin that doesn't support that path, try to symlink it
[16:33] <fweht> any idea what this error means (ubuntu 23.10) and how i can get my firmware updated?  https://i.imgur.com/FFoDYUP.png
[16:50] <JanC> ApostleInTriumph: gvfs is still there; you can use "gio mount" to do gvfs mounts from the commandline (if you need that)
[16:50] <JanC> ApostleInTriumph: did you change the way you install vscode?
[16:59] <ApostleInTriumph> JanC no, I actually dumped SFTP and shifted to SSHFS
[16:59] <ApostleInTriumph> it's too painful to try and understand this than choosing SSHFS
[17:00] <JanC> do you have gvfs-fuse installed?
[17:01] <ApostleInTriumph> yep
[17:01] <ApostleInTriumph> Btw, i'm unable to install `python-vtk` on 22.04
[17:01] <ApostleInTriumph> I get the error
[17:01] <ApostleInTriumph> `E: Unable to locate package python-vtk`
[17:02] <JanC> you need python3-vtk
[17:02] <ApostleInTriumph> E: Unable to locate package python3-vtk
[17:03] <JanC> python3-vtk7 or python3-vtk9 apparently
[17:03] <JanC> depending on what version you want/need
[18:15] <gotyaman> Richard Simmons' Seclusion Story - A Royal Canadian Secret Agent Pedo Sting
[18:15] <gotyaman> Richard's Simmons current seclusion is explained telling the story of his trying to meet up with an 11 year-old African refugee child for a kale and cottage cheese enema and sex!
[18:15] <gotyaman> https://justpaste.it/Richard_Simmons_Pedo_Sting_Bust
[18:33] <Nitrigaur> Ubuntu 23.04, Dell Latitude 23.04 When inserting a SD-card into my internal reader, Nautilus shows an eject option which results in "Unable to eject <SD-Card Volume Name> No Object for D-Bus Interface"
[18:35] <Nitrigaur> How can I configure my system so that the SD-card reader is not recognised as an ejectable device, or tp cause the eject function to merely umount the volume, rather than trying to eject it's parent device?
[18:38] <toddc> Nitrigaur: wait a minite or two I ususlly find that is is still reading all the files on the slow SD card  then I can eject/unmount it  also in terminal a  sync command will retum to a prompt when it is done
[18:45] <Nitrigaur> toddc, I tried that. This error is persistent. Here are my resulting journal entries related to this: https://pastebin.com/vqgzmSAR
[18:46] <Nitrigaur> toddc, as you can see, the umount is successful, but Nautilus also tries to cut power to the parent device as if it were a simple USB-stick SD-card reader.
[18:49] <Nitrigaur> toddc, I would like to configure either Nautilus or udev to treat the parent device as un-ejectable and only process a umount, without the eject command (that throws an exception). There is no unmount/ umount option within Nautilus when this device has a SD-card inserted into it.
[18:50] <Nitrigaur> toddc, I have redacted my own username to "username" in the journal entries, but left the rest as is.
[18:59] <mozambique> did anyonew saw Hellon
[18:59] <mozambique> or Sergei and Larry
[20:15] <elias_a> What is the easiest way of finding .txt files modified during last 2 months?
[20:16] <Habbie> the 'find' shell command is what i would use
[20:16] <Habbie> i'd have to read the manual page to write the exact command though
[20:17] <elias_a> Habbie: I have been using find but never with an "accessed during last x days" argument.
[20:17] <elias_a> I'll try to find the answer
[20:17] <Habbie> 'mtime' is the keyword i think
[20:17] <elias_a> Habbie: TY
[20:17] <Habbie> or ctime, i always mix those up
[20:17] <Habbie> but i checked and it's definitely one of those two
[20:17] <causative_> -mtime +60
[20:18] <Habbie> ah
[20:18] <Habbie> -60 i think
[20:18] <elias_a> TY again :) You guys are beatiful and rock!
[20:18] <Habbie> yes, -60
[20:18] <Habbie> -62 perhaps ;)
[20:19] <causative_> no need to support non-standard months
[20:19] <Habbie> what's a standard month? :)
[20:19] <causative_> september
[20:19] <jeremy31> 30.41 days
[20:19] <Habbie> my bank uses 28
[20:20] <Habbie> jeremy31, 30.42 surely
[20:20] <elias_a> Habbie: Perhaps time to change bank? :D
[20:20] <Habbie> elias_a, all banks here do
[20:20] <Habbie> it's fine :)
[20:20] <elias_a> Habbie: Where is that? :O
[20:20] <Habbie> .nl
[20:20] <Habbie> but you don't even notice until you get a reason to calculate interest per day
[20:20] <Habbie> like with a mortgage
[20:21] <Habbie> however, i apologise, we're going wildly off topic onw
[20:21] <elias_a> Funny. Have to dig that a bit. Thanks again!
[20:21] <Habbie> np :)
[20:34] <Guest52> Hi. my
[20:39] <Guest52> my ubuntu 22.04.3  only works in safe mode i got an nvidia 3060 and works fine with ubuntu 22.04.2 . any ideas way this is happening or how to solve?
[20:47] <gmachine24> Hello. Running Ubuntu Server 22.04.3 LTS had it unplugged for ~ 2 months - now it's back up and running but I get this long page of errors on the screen which you can view here https://imgur.com/a/lXSoRpk
[20:48] <gmachine24> everything seems to work OK - I updated everything and the errors persist
[20:48] <Habbie> gmachine24, i'm sorry i don't have more words, but check SMART status of your drive. smartmontools/smartctl is nice
[20:48] <jeremy31> gmachine24: might want to back it up, might be drive failure coming
[20:48] <Habbie> yeah
[20:48] <gmachine24> There are four drives an SSD for the OS and three data drives
[20:49] <Habbie> definitely back up soon
[20:49] <gmachine24> everything is backed up to 2 external sources
[20:49] <Habbie> very good
[20:49] <Habbie> then investigate without panic
[20:49] <gmachine24> I was thinking of punting and just reinstalling the OS
[20:49] <Habbie> this doesn't smell like something a reinstall will fix
[20:49] <Habbie> (-besides- this situation, few things are fixed by reinstalling Ubuntu)
[20:50] <gmachine24> so all that jibberish basically means the drive is likely failing?
[20:51] <Habbie> it might, yes
[20:51] <Habbie> SMART can likely tell you more
[20:51] <jeremy31> gmachine24: in terminal>  sudo dmesg | grep ata2
[20:51] <Habbie> it can also mean the cable is bad
[20:51] <jeremy31> see what drive it might be
[20:51] <Habbie> or a few other things
[20:51] <Habbie> but usually, failure is coming
[20:52] <gmachine24> ok jeremy31 hang on
[20:54] <jeremy31> Might be worth cleaning connectors on cable and drive
[20:54] <Habbie> after checking smart :)
[20:59] <gmachine24> ok I can do those things this is part of the output of the dmesg command https://pastebin.com/Ckt1P3GV
[21:00] <gmachine24> .. interface fatal error... /dies
[21:00] <gmachine24> I'm going to shut it down and clean the connectors - I'm chatting on a different computer so I shall remain here
[21:20] <gmachine24> I'll be back. Thank you all.
[21:38] <cluelessperson> Ubuntu seems very lagged today
[21:55] <gmachine24> OK I'm the one with the gibberish when starting my Ubuntu Server LTS ... I ran the smartctl test and it reported no errors.
[21:56] <gmachine24> I'm running it again from the GSmartControl GUI just for the heck of it
[21:58] <leftyfb> gmachine24: why do you have a GUI running on your server?
[21:58] <cluelessperson> gmachine24, do you have a picture?
[21:58] <cluelessperson> leftyfb, it might just be the serial/terminal
[21:59] <cluelessperson> I've seen that before with some weird encoding set.
[22:00] <gmachine24> I don't have it running on my server - I removed the ssd drive and inserted it into a USB external drive - in the end I couldn't get the Ubuntu Server to boot into anything other than emergency or whatever that is called
[22:00] <gmachine24> I ran the test from a Fedora desktop
[22:01] <gmachine24> cluelessperson what do you want a picture of
[22:01] <leftyfb> gmachine24: the errors mean you have an issue with your storage device
[22:02] <cluelessperson> gmachine24, the "gibberish"
[22:02] <cluelessperson> where it occurs
[22:02] <cluelessperson> where it comes out
[22:02] <leftyfb> gmachine24: it could be a bad drive, cable, connector or the motherboard. Or in the case of trying to run hard drive off a usb port on a raspberry pi, not enough power
[22:02] <cluelessperson> if there are other non-gibberish messages around it
[22:03] <gmachine24> cluelessperson you weren't here when I posted all that stuff this is an image I shared https://imgur.com/eEUjzZO
[22:04] <JanC> that's not gibberish  :)
[22:04] <gmachine24> I d/c all the data drives and booted the computer and got all the same errors  so I guess the problems are with the SSD drives which has the OS or its connectors etc
[22:04] <gmachine24> touche JanC sadly it is to me
[22:07] <cluelessperson> gmachine24, that's far from gibberish, that seems to indicate communication errors with a specific disk or bus.
[22:08] <cluelessperson> your goal is to identify which, move that disk around, switch out cables to nuderstand which is the problem
[22:08] <gmachine24> yes that seems to be the consensus cluelessperson - but I thank you
[22:08] <JanC> it's SATA command errors; reasons can be many, from faulty hardware (SATA controller, cables, on-disk controller) to lack of power (not just for USB disks; if you put too much hardware in a computer with a too weak power supply that can happen too)
[22:10] <cluelessperson> gmachine24, I was expecting malformed ascii or crazy symbols.
[22:10] <gmachine24> this is the output from the smartctl test https://pastebin.com/xcQNx1RK
[22:12] <gmachine24> I think the p/s is fine this computer was fine until I took it off line to clean out my office. My best guess is the data cables which I can replace.
[22:13] <gmachine24> I will try these things and let you know how it goes. Thank you all for your time and input.
[22:58] <Apachez> the initrd file in ubuntu, is that only supposed to contain the amd microcode update ?
[23:00] <rbox> Apachez: no
[23:37] <Yakov> need book for  commands suitable for modern Ubuntu version
[23:37] <Yakov> lacking some sorting, finding file/line management..... and shell scripting basics
[23:43] <itu> Yakov:  https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=shell-scripting
[23:44] <itu> but i do not understand the other things
[23:45] <Yakov> Having this Classic Shell Scripting by Arnold Robbins and Nelson H. F. Beebe | need get more file management skills | visual sorting and
[23:46] <itu> 'file management skills' ?
[23:47] <rbox> girls only like guys with great skills
[23:47] <itu> Yakov: do you need a basic unix-course?


  No probs due to the non-stick saucepan.... but what was it like in the days when saucepans were not non-stick and were therefore made of sticks?
[15:54] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[15:54] <penguin42> hey
[15:55] <SebthreeBQM10HD> penguin42, hi
[15:57] <SuperMatt> morning


[00:02] <hapik> hi
[00:02] <hapik> how can I edit xfce menu?
[00:04] <charlie-tca> 3. http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu
[00:04] <charlie-tca> if you are sure you want to...
[00:06] <hapik> charlie-tca: as to the problem with startx on user account - the solution was in .ICEauthority file
[00:06] <charlie-tca> hmmm?
[00:07] <hapik> a few hours ago I could get xfce on root account but not on user account - I guess we were talking about that
[00:08] <charlie-tca> yeah, I remember that. I just don't know how to read .ICEauthority
[00:10] <hapik> i presume that somehow after changing notification area setup, /home/user/.ICEauthority file ownership was changed - when I removed it (I should just chown) I could log in as a user
[00:10] <charlie-tca> Oh, I got it
[00:10] <charlie-tca> root stole the file
[00:11] <hapik> I was just lucky, as my knowledge of linux in not advanced
[00:28] <teknorunner> I like the new theme but how do I change application toolbars to have black backgrounds to match?
[00:33] <bobber> I like the new theme, but how can I change the application toolbar background color to black?
[00:39] <bobber> I like the new theme, but how can I change the application toolbar background color to black?
[00:48] <charlie-tca> !patience
[00:49] <zv_odd> whar is the network manager???
[00:49] <zv_odd> wtf
[00:49] <zv_odd> wtf
[00:50] <_blink_> calm down
[00:50] <charlie-tca> !network-manager
[00:50] <_blink_> Put it in proper grammer so we know what the fuck ur saying
[00:54] <_blink_> lol
[01:34] <_blink_> !python
[02:20] <subspider> do guys know how to add path to RUNNING PATH
[02:21] <subspider> for scripts
[04:25] <Linera> hello
[04:25] <Linera> Could someone please tell me how to get the taskbar to reappear in the Xfce desktop?
[04:29] <pleia2> !panels
[04:29] <pleia2> might help
[04:30] <Linera> i said my taskbar
[04:31] <pleia2> the XubuntuPanels wiki page explains how to readd things that have disappeared from the panel :)
[04:32] <Linera> its not panels, its my taskbars
[04:32] <pleia2> hmm, what exactly do you mean by taskbar?
[04:33] <Linera> The things at the top and bottom of your desktop for apps, and a start menu like thing for shut down
[04:34] <Linera> the bottom one shows little bars for each app opened
[04:34] <Linera> thats a task bar
[04:34] <Myrtti> Panels
[04:34] <Myrtti> :-)
[04:34] <Linera> its called a taskbar
[04:35] <pleia2> in xubuntu they are called panels
[04:35] <Linera> it holds the tasks you can perform and are currently performing
[04:35] <Linera> hence why its called a taskbar
[04:35] <Myrtti> Oh, you mean that specific applet
[04:35] <pleia2> the "task list"?
[04:36] <pleia2> it's something you can add to your panel, as described in the wiki page
[04:37] <Linera> taskbar is a desktop display bar used to launch and monitor applications.
[04:37] <pleia2> right click on the panel, go to "add new items..." and from the list "task list" and whatever else you wish to add
[04:37] <pleia2> s/list/list, select
[04:38] <Linera> all i need to know is how to make my "TASKBAR" to reappear
[04:38] <pleia2> the bars at the top and bottom of your screen with all the stuff in them, they disappeared and you want them back, right?
[04:39] <Linera> yes, the taskbar
[04:39] <pleia2> Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel
[04:39] <Linera> not panel, the taskbar
[04:39] <pleia2> what you're describing is the panel
[04:40] <Linera> its not a panel
[04:43] <Myrtti> The "task bar" lives inside a panel in xubuntu. If you dont have panels, you cant have "task bar"
[04:45] <Myrtti> Unless you are using some other nondefault application to create such
[04:46] <Myrtti> Linera ^
[04:54]  * likemindead thinks pleia2 got trolled...
[04:55] <pleia2> yeah, that possibility has now dawned on me :)
[05:02] <likemindead> ;-)
[05:05] <Awesome3000> How do i get my launcher to show more then one icon
[06:08] <Awesome3000> How do i get my launcher to show more then one icon
[06:31] <kcj1993> can I have more than 2 workspaces?
[06:31] <Awesome3000> kcj1993: I have 4 so Yes
[07:06] <Balsaq> hyvä aamu erinomainen ilmaista koodikielellä -lta pohjoinen Eurooppa!
[07:08] <Myrtti> merh. google translate is really doing a horrible work
[07:08] <Myrtti> Balsaq: this channel is English, btw
[07:09] <Balsaq> i guess i cannot figure it out
[07:45] <_Techie_> Balsaq, long time no see
[07:47] <Balsaq> yo Techie where ya been?
[07:47] <_Techie_> gaming
[07:47] <Balsaq> figures
[07:47] <Balsaq> we need techs in here
[07:48] <Balsaq> i mean the more the better!
[07:48] <_Techie_> im am at your service
[07:48] <_Techie_> but first a question for someone with a bit of experience
[07:48] <Balsaq> cool...maybe ill run to the basement and fire up xub and look for issues :)
[07:49] <_Techie_> does anyone here have experience with modified xbox's (original), cromwell bios experience will help
[07:53] <_Techie_> dangit, why is there never anybody with around with the experience to help me
[07:54] <Balsaq> hmmm...because you are at the top of the food chain dude
[07:54] <_Techie_> as if
[07:54] <_Techie_> with my gear
[07:55] <_Techie_> that would be like being a millionare and not driving a ferrari
[07:55] <Balsaq> i wonder if there is a channel that is for xbox
[07:55] <_Techie_> probably
[07:55] <Balsaq> only one person in it
[07:55] <_Techie_> but their mainly for straight up xbox modding
[07:55] <Balsaq> o
[07:56] <Balsaq> i bought my nephew the original xbox years ago
[07:56] <_Techie_> that chan is absolutely useless
[07:56] <_Techie_> i spit on ##xbox
[07:57] <Balsaq> my 17 year old nephew has had his xbox for man years...would he know how to help you? he play games on it?
[07:57] <Balsaq> many
[07:58] <Balsaq> or are you trying to do something..unusual on it?
[07:59] <_Techie_> very unusual
[07:59] <_Techie_> advanced modding to be specific
[08:04] <_Techie_> i think i might have just solved my problem
[08:04] <Balsaq> what is modding
[08:04] <_Techie_> modification
[08:04] <Balsaq> are you trying to make it into a computer?
[08:05] <_Techie_> it already is a computer
[08:05] <_Techie_> =)
[08:05] <Balsaq> hmmm how big is the processor
[08:05] <Balsaq> ram and all
[08:05] <_Techie_> 733mhz
[08:05] <Balsaq> whoah
[08:05] <_Techie_> better than that old clunker of yours
[08:05] <Balsaq> thats more that 2 of my old timers
[08:05] <Balsaq> but i have 5 2.4's  and a 1.7 too
[08:06] <_Techie_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox#Modding
[08:06] <Balsaq> my nephew got the new xbox from his dad for christmas, ill have to ask him what he going to do with the original
[08:07] <Balsaq> so his should be 733 also
[08:07] <Balsaq> how much ram
[08:11] <_Techie_> 64mb
[08:11] <Balsaq> ouch
[08:11] <Balsaq> sdram?
[08:11] <_Techie_> if hes inclined he can easily turn it into a media center
[08:11] <_Techie_> but he probably already know that
[08:11] <_Techie_> yeah SD
[08:12] <_Techie_> if he can pay postage id be more than happy to mod it for him for free and install a 40gig hard drive
[08:12] <Balsaq> yeah but postage to downunder would be massive
[08:13] <_Techie_> oh yeah
[08:13] <_Techie_> it will be
[08:13] <_Techie_> but its prolly less than a dead xbox
[08:13] <Sysi> shame that you(i) can't get anything sensible from ps2
[08:14] <_Techie_> ps2 was a mistake, and a stupid mistake on behalf of sony
[08:15] <Sysi> there is place for hd, but propably impossible to get cooling enough good to any proper hardware
[08:15] <_Techie_> not only did it look ancient next to the performace of the xbox, they didnt do any research and ended up keeping the same old uncompfortable controllers
[08:21] <Sysi> yeah, and why are those controllers still in ps3
[08:21] <Sysi> or almost same at least
[08:22] <_Techie_> because sony have thick skulls
[08:23] <_Techie_> atleast the PS3 is moddable though
[10:03] <_Techie_> night all
[13:44] <emerson> How do I turn on my toolbar using the shell ?
[13:45] <eXpl0i7> emerson: you eman panel?
[13:45] <ablomen> xfce4-panel
[13:46] <emerson> that's cool thanks man.
[13:47] <emerson> just one problem if I shut down the shell panel disappear as well ?
[13:47] <Sysi> !panels
[13:47] <emerson> so how do I solve that ?
[13:48] <Sysi> like that
[14:13] <Xfact> I am thinking about to transfer my desktop from Ubuntu to Xubuntu, but my question is will I miss any spacial features (except eye-candy)?
[14:14] <Xfact> anyone can help with the issue?
[14:15] <ablomen> Xfact, the only missing feature i can think of is the fact that thunar (xfce's filemanager) has no build in samba support
[14:16] <Pres-Gas> ablomen and Xfact, mount.cifs works quite well, however.
[14:16] <ablomen> yep it does :)
[14:16] <Pres-Gas> ablomen, have you used gigolo?
[14:17] <Xfact>  well, I am just medium computer user, I use my pc just for fun and entertainment with some basic works (text and web surfing etc.) so I think I will not miss any spacial feature
[14:17] <ablomen> Pres-Gas, no i don't swing that way</badJoke> ehm is that that graphical mount utility?
[14:18] <Xfact> so can you tell me the command to reach Xubuntu from Ubuntu?
[14:18] <Pres-Gas> We will all be lurking about if you need help anyway, Xfact.
[14:18] <ablomen> Xfact, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop will install xfce etc for you
[14:19] <Pres-Gas> You will have some remenant Ubu services still starting, Xfact.  So you will kind of have a hybrid system
[14:19] <Xfact>  ablomen: will it change my presant Ubuntu (important) settings?
[14:20] <ablomen> Xfact, nope, just install's xfce next to it
[14:20] <ablomen> Pres-Gas, ah i see it now, no i have not, just use a few scripts myself
[14:54] <Pres-Gas> ablomen, it looks like gigolo is using the gvfs backend...gvfs seems to be looking like the gtk+ agnostic fs backend, but don't quote me on that.
[14:54] <ablomen> Pres-Gas, from what i have read about it, gvfs is evil, since it is fuse but then the gnome way, not using fuse.. but dont quote me on that either :)
[14:55] <ablomen> (so it still wont extend the filesystem, so only gvfs enabled apps can use it)
[15:25] <retour> where xfce saves settings for the audio mixer? Every time I reboot everything is muted
[15:27]  * likemindead finds that annoying too.
[15:29] <likemindead> Some info here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/68564
[15:30] <likemindead> More here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=764576
[15:40] <retour> likemindead: thank you for good link. Although pity its a bug present for 3 yrs and nobody fixed it
[15:56] <Eltornado> hello
[15:56] <Eltornado> using Xubuntu 9.10 can't find my Xorg.conf, where that file is located ?
[15:57] <ablomen> Eltornado, it does not exists anymore
[15:57] <ablomen> you can create it though, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:57] <Eltornado> ablomen what do you mean create it manually ?
[15:58] <ablomen> yeah, it still reads it so you can add rules if you have to
[15:58] <Sysi-> write it yourself
[15:59] <Eltornado> i see, you know the problem i got is that i have to set the resolution of the gdm screen login ad the desktop reslution so where can i make that change ?
[15:59] <Eltornado> ablomen dunno what to write on it
[15:59] <Sysi-> in settings menu isn't correct one available?
[16:00] <Sysi-> you can also try xrandr
[16:00] <Eltornado> syns1- in the setting i can only change the desktop rscreen resolution not the gdm resolution
[16:01] <Eltornado> how can i user xrandr  ?
[16:03] <TheSheep> xrandr --help
[16:03] <TheSheep> !xrandr
[16:05] <Eltornado> TheSheep, ok i'll try to do it
[16:05] <Eltornado> thanks
[16:05] <Sysi-> is that gdm's resolution _that_ necessary, i'd guess that fixing that is not very easy
[16:05] <Sysi-> ir well, it can be
[16:05] <Sysi-> *or
[16:06] <Sysi-> i use automatic login, never see gdm
[16:07] <Eltornado> Sysi-, yes i have to change it there is a bug in gdm when the resolution of the gdm is different to desktop screen resolution it make a loop on the login
[16:07] <Sysi-> oh right
[16:07] <Eltornado> now i have the gdm screen resolution set to 800x600 and desktop to 1024x768
[16:08] <Sysi-> ot worked on fedora :O
[16:08] <Sysi-> bad-writing day
[16:08] <Eltornado> i changeddesktop res to 800x600 ,and everything work alright
[16:08] <TheSheep> if only I had a script that sets up all the session-related stuff that X needs, I'd get rid of gdm entirely
[16:09] <TheSheep> things like ICE and seahorse
[16:17] <Eltornado> is there a way to generate the xorg.conf automaticlly ?
[16:17] <Eltornado> :)
[16:26] <genii> Eltornado: If you login to console only and stop display manager, you can do: sudo Xorg -configure      which dumps an xorg.conf in current directory. Then mv it into /etc/X11 and start display manager
[16:29] <Eltornado> genii thanks man
[16:29] <genii> Eltornado: Yer welcome
[19:33] <slow-motion> hi
[20:29] <becker_11> hello does anyone know if Gnu IceCat is available on x/ubuntu ?
[20:30] <cody-somerville> becker_11, Icecat? Do you mean icecast?
[20:31] <likemindead> Surely there's a .deb or PPA.
[20:31] <becker_11> nope cody-somerville  Gnu IceCat is the free firefox Gnu browser
[20:31] <likemindead> http://www.gnu.org/software/software.html
[20:31] <cody-somerville> Ah, okay.
[20:32] <cody-somerville> No, icecat doesn't appear to be in the repositories.
[20:32] <becker_11> thanks
[20:32] <cody-somerville> No problem.
[20:32] <cody-somerville> If you're interested in seeing it get added, you can file a packaging request on launchpad or in Debian's bug tracker system.
[20:33] <Myrtti> O
[20:33] <becker_11> oh cool
[20:33] <becker_11> How do I go about doing that cody-somerville ?
[20:33] <Myrtti> I've seen it being built to a ppa on launchpad
[20:33]  * becker_11 searching
[20:33] <Myrtti> just was watching the buildqueue couple of hours ago
[20:35] <becker_11> Found it the only problem is
[20:35] <becker_11> You can update your system with unsupported packages from this untrusted PPA by adding ppa:gnuzilla-team/ppa  to your system's Software Sources
[20:37] <Myrtti> becker_11: and you don't want to install from that?
[20:38] <becker_11> Myrtti, just a bit concerned that they are saying it's untrusted and unsupported
[20:39] <Myrtti> becker_11: well it's your judgement call. It's the easiest way of installing it. Of course you can download the source and compile and install it yourself
[20:39] <becker_11> Myrtti, yeah I'm checking it out now will decide in a while
[20:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> Hello
[20:40] <slow-motion> n8
[20:40] <Sachse_Siechtum> I got a problem with my HP PSC 1315.
[20:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> when I want to print a test page, it takes the paper half through, cartridge makes strange noises and stops...and I get an error message
[20:41] <Sachse_Siechtum> well
[20:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> on the printer...
[20:42] <Sachse_Siechtum> a big "E"
[20:42] <becker_11> Myrtti, do you know if I need to remove firefox before installing icecat??
[20:43] <Myrtti> becker_11: have no idea, but I'd assume no
[20:43] <becker_11> Myrtti,  okay thanks
[20:47] <charlie-tca> Sachse_Siechtum: That would be a problem with the printer itself. Have you looked carefully to make sure there is not a paper jam in it that is causing it?  I switched the printer on in Windows XP and he printed the test page
[20:49] <Sachse_Siechtum> (the printer was also on in Xubuntu)
[20:51] <Sachse_Siechtum> brb
[20:55] <becker_11> Myrtti, just a heads up IceCat installs alongside firefox
[21:05]  * becker_11 is away: Forgive me I'm off hacking, coding, tweak or shock horror actually sleeping!!
[21:37] <balsaq> howdy yall
[21:38] <balsaq> how come sometimes when i make a quick launch link at the top after it restarts it sometimes changes from the left side at the top where i put it to the right side?
[21:38] <balsaq> speaking of which, can i make a quick launch link for the desktop?
[21:40] <TheSheep> sure, I think it's fastest to just copy one from /usr/share/applications/
[21:40] <TheSheep> copy it to ~/Desktop/
[21:40] <balsaq> TheSheep, how do i do that?
[21:41] <TheSheep> let me see, open Thunar, navigate to /usr/share/applications, select one of the files in there and drag it to the desktop
[21:44] <balsaq> TheSheep, thanks, but i meant single click launch
[21:44] <balsaq> like on the taskbar
[21:44] <TheSheep> no
[21:44] <balsaq> TheSheep, there's no way?
[21:44] <TheSheep> you could install some additional application that does it, like gdesklets
[21:45] <balsaq> TheSheep, where do i get that?
[21:45] <TheSheep> from the repos
[21:45] <TheSheep> !info gdesklets
[21:46] <TheSheep> personally I don't like to have anything on the desktop, I put all icons on the panels
[21:46] <balsaq> TheSheep, would this slow down my system? i don't wanna defeat the purpose of using xfce lol
[21:46] <TheSheep> yes
[21:46] <TheSheep> it would
[21:46] <balsaq> TheSheep, forget it then lol thanks for your help
[22:42] <greenhorn> Hey there, can someone pastebin the default repo listing (sources.list) for Xubuntu 9.10?
[22:43] <TheSheep> !autosource
[22:43] <TheSheep> hmm...
[22:43] <TheSheep> !sources
[22:46] <greenhorn> TheSheep: Thanks, I don't have Xubuntu installed but was curious if it shipped with the same default repos as Ubuntu... appears so.
[22:48] <homebrewcider> hey there, I'm having a problem with my Xubuntu 9.10 install, my auto login doesn't work, and it takes me 5-6 manual login attempts before it lets me login. Is there a way to check what's going on and causing this problem?
[22:49] <greenhorn> Laterz.
[22:49] <Flea_> Can someone help me with moving my notes from Tomboy to another application like Open Office without losing the formatting of Tomboy?
[22:53] <TheSheep> homebrewcider: check your .xsessionerrors
[22:54] <TheSheep> Flea_: you may try asking at #ubuntu, tomboy is installed there by default
[22:54] <Flea_> Thanks, I did.
[22:54] <TheSheep> Flea_: I think gnote can import tomboy notes and then export to html
[22:54] <Flea_> ok, thanks!
[23:06] <allyourbass> i cant seem to change the face for my user on the login screen
[23:06] <allyourbass> xubuntu 9.10
[23:06] <allyourbass> ive tried putting a file named .face in my home
[23:07] <allyourbass> linked to a file in /usr/share/pixmaps/faces
[23:07] <allyourbass> what am i doing wrong here ??
[23:10] <charlie-tca> allyourbass: new grub2 in 9.10
[23:10] <charlie-tca> makes things work different
[23:10] <allyourbass> yeah grub 2
[23:12] <allyourbass> could grub 2 also be part of my problem here ? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/xubuntu-9.10-fresh-install-usb-automount-failure-fat-io-charset-iso-8859-1-not-found-784324/#post3838304
[23:14] <charlie-tca> I don't think they are related
[23:14] <allyourbass> i had high hopes for this install
[23:15] <allyourbass> still better then my old crusty debian built from scratch nightmare
[23:25] <evilbug> how can i make vlc the default player for dvds?
[23:29] <TheSheep> evilbug: thunar->edit->preferences->advanced->configure->multimedia
[23:34] <evilbug> TheSheep: thank you.