[22:24] <bloodrock> neurobuntu, what kde program you trying to install
[22:24] <hiptobecubic> oberoc, already reading it :)
[22:25] <neurobuntu> bloodrock its called: Kluster
[22:25] <cbones> unop : i now have a wirless icon but it will not connect
[22:25] <unop> neurobuntu, let's say you are trying to compile a package named foo.  sudo apt-get build-dep foo  knows what libraries are needed to complete building of foo, so it installs them for you
[22:26] <SrgSantos54> how do you mount a external HHD
[22:26] <SrgSantos54> ?!?
[22:26] <SrgSantos54> anyone
[22:26] <caroline> My laptoop makes lots of noise when I close the lid do you know how to stop it or even tell me what it is
[22:26] <bloodrock> neurobuntu,  did you look on kde webite for the libs kluster will need
[22:26] <safasf> I have a broadcom wireless on an HP Pavilian laptop. I'm connected to the internet via an ethernet cable. My wireless driver seems to be "WL" in linux. Its a restricted driver, i enabled it. I see my network that i'm trying to connect to. My network uses WEP Personal. I can't connect to my network via the wireless -- my wireless card gives me the orange hardware light rather than the 'blue' active hardware light -- it tries to connect to the
[22:26] <oberoc> caroline: What kind of noise?
[22:26] <neurobuntu> unop: ok I will try that
[22:26] <caroline> It should appear when you plug it in and appear on your desktop
[22:27] <SrgSantos54> it gives me a error
[22:27] <SrgSantos54> failed to mount
[22:27] <oberoc> caroline: like hard drive noise?
[22:27] <neurobuntu> unop: how do I specify the source package?  I tried that and I got a Unable to find source package error
[22:27] <SrgSantos54> someone plz help me
[22:28] <caroline> safasf I suspect you need to switch your wireless on manually if its a laptop the button should have an anteni item on it
[22:28] <oberoc> SrgSantos54: Does it work anywhere else?
[22:28] <unop> neurobuntu, well, kluster isn't a package ubuntu knows about -- so in this case, you need to examine kluster's documentation to see what libraries need installing before you go ahead and compile it
[22:28] <caroline> like CPU noise
[22:28] <safasf> Caroline -- it has a left and right slider, right is on, left is off -- i switched it to the right.
[22:28] <SrgSantos54> yes
[22:28] <ShinjinAkage> I was trying to change my screensaver and it froze up my computer when it was attempting to "Construct Molecule" or whatever. Now anytime I open it to change the screensaver that one is selected and freezes my computer up. Is there a way to fix this, like uninstalling that screensaver then opening it.?
[22:28] <neurobuntu> ok.... thats what I thought
[22:28] <neurobuntu> thanks anyway
[22:28] <SrgSantos54> it works in my windows
[22:28] <SrgSantos54> but not in ubuntu
[22:28] <SrgSantos54> ?!?
[22:28] <neurobuntu> btw the package is Klusters http://klusters.sourceforge.net/
[22:29] <neurobuntu> i misspelled it
[22:29] <saysay> Hi. all'
[22:29] <SrgSantos54> oberoc can u help me ?
[22:29] <caroline> have a look for some distructions for wpa_supplicant
[22:29] <saysay> anyone here know Samba
[22:29] <Jimfox> agh where is the command prompt? i was hoping it would be in system
[22:29] <oberoc> SrgSantos54: It might be ntfs format, and theen you need the module to read and write ntfs
[22:29] <oren> Jimfox: should be under accessories maybe?
[22:30] <SrgSantos54> ok and how do i do that
[22:30] <rainwalker> ShinjinAkage: I had that problem once; luckily my computer was slow to load the preview so I could click on a different screensaver really fast before it loaded...I know it's a lame solution, but it might work
[22:30] <unop> neurobuntu, if you have already downloaded the source package, read the README / INSTALL file within it , it ought to have information to help you
[22:30] <safasf> ubuntu: 6 hours of my life trying to connect to the internet that I will never get back.
[22:30] <cgantelope> Hello.  I am very new.  Can anyone help me to get a wacom graphire to work in Ubuntu 8
[22:30] <rainwalker> Jimfox: applications > accessories > terminal
[22:30] <rainwalker> Jimfox: or if you just want to run something, press Alt + F2
[22:30] <ShinjinAkage> rainwalker: I already tried that. Mine is fast enough to start up the preview before I can click anything
[22:30] <Jimfox> aaah terminal, thanks
[22:31] <johnnypea_> hello, my internet connection works normal but I cannot update and install repositores, "403 Forbidden" , please help me
[22:31] <neurobuntu> unop:  ya i've already read both of them... I might just do a  apt-get install kubuntu-desktop but I really dont want to... the read me file is empty and the intsall file doesn't explicity list the needed librarires....
[22:31] <saysay> Samba I can see Ubuntu samba share, but I can not see windows share. Windows is reporting bad password in security
[22:31] <oberoc> caroline: Could it is not going to sleep properly
[22:31] <oberoc> ?
[22:31] <rainwalker> safasf: blame the hardware companies for not making drivers. If they did, there would be way less hassle
[22:31] <oberoc> SrgSantos: hang on
[22:31] <SrgSantos54> error can not mount volume
[22:31] <SrgSantos54> what do i do to fix this
[22:31] <neurobuntu> ok I found it: Klusters requires KDE >= 3.1, QT >= 3.1 and libxml2 >= 2.5.4
[22:31] <caroline> oberoc, oooh I'll just check
[22:31] <neurobuntu> so can I just run: apt-get install kde, qt, libxml2 ?
[22:32] <rainwalker> ShinjinAkage: well you could try completely removing gnome-screensaver via Synaptic (but I make sure it doesn't remove anything important along with it) and then reinstall
[22:32] <RodGo> hi all, how i create crontabs on ubuntu hardy, somehow when i run "sudo crontab -l" i get a command not found error :s
[22:33] <caroline> I don't have it set to go to sleep I have it turning off the screen and nothing else, because I want it to keep downloading
[22:33] <ia> hello, everybody. could you tell me please, where i can download official ubuntu documentation (in pdf)?
[22:33] <RodGo> i am on a fresh vps hardy installation
[22:33] <oberoc> SrgSantos54: What is the drive and partition name?
[22:33] <rainwalker> neurobuntu: I don't know about the apt-get install KDE part, because I'm assuming that will install the whole KDE environment
[22:33] <ShinjinAkage> rainwalker: Actually I decided to try your idea again this time with some system resources being used so it wouldn't work as fast and I got it.
[22:33] <neurobuntu> what about installing AmaroK, will that install all of KDE or just the KDE libs?
[22:33] <rainwalker> ShinjinAkage: haha sweet
[22:34] <johnnypea_> hello, my internet connection works normal but I cannot update and install repositores, "403 Forbidden" , please help me :)
[22:34] <rainwalker> neurobuntu: Amarok will not install all of KDE
[22:34] <ShinjinAkage> rainwalker: Thanks, I'm gonna look into deleting just that one since it's the only one that gives me trouble.
[22:34] <neurobuntu> ok I'll try that then... hopefully it will get enough of KDE so that I can install my other program from source
[22:34] <bloodrock> neurobuntu, there is a deb package for kluster
[22:34] <SrgSantos54> its a free agent
[22:34] <zelrikriando> I have a bug
[22:34] <neurobuntu> bloodrock? where?
[22:35] <zelrikriando> In some context, I cannot read mp3's
[22:35] <lecter> I'll have to learn how to make programs from source
[22:35] <Jimfox> ok i am back, this is what i found in the terminal: Warning: Did not register secondlife:// handler with KDE: Directory /home/jimfox/.kde/share/services does not exist.
[22:35] <Jimfox> /home/jimfox/SecondLife_i686_1_19_1_4/secondlife: line 100: bin/do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin: No such file or directory
[22:35] <Jimfox> *** Unclean shutdown. ***
[22:35] <Jimfox> /home/jimfox/SecondLife_i686_1_19_1_4/secondlife: line 108: arch: command not found
[22:35] <lecter> couple non deb packages
[22:35] <FloodBot1> Jimfox: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:35] <Guren> hi upgrade install question, I used to have Gutsy () and recently upgraded to Hardy but how come the new kernel is not listed in the boot menu? and i still have the old kernel? 2.6.22-14-generic
[22:35] <bloodrock> go to http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Klusters?content=14379
[22:35] <oberoc> SrgSantosl; What version of ubuntu are you using?
[22:35] <lecter> depend if mp3 plugin installed in said programs
[22:35] <rainwalker> neurobuntu: plus, Amarok is a great player, so that's a bonus :P
[22:36] <oberoc> caroline: Do u have another machine on your network?
[22:36] <lecter> im using vlc a lot
[22:36] <caroline> SrgSantos54, bring up terminal, then type in sudo -s and type password when prompted, then add your external drive and see what appears in dmesg you should see some kind of lines involving sdc or hdc
[22:36] <aguitel> how speed up startup in ubuntu process ?
[22:36] <neurobuntu> rainwalker: I've used it and I prefer Exaile
[22:36] <lecter> no dual boot
[22:36] <caroline> oberoc, no
[22:36] <neurobuntu> bloodrock: I found the deb on sourceforge. its a older version but I'll give it a try. Atleast that will install the needed libs for me to compile the newest version
[22:36] <rainwalker> neurobuntu: ah, well to each his own
[22:36] <neurobuntu> rainwalker: but it is pretty good, just not my favorite
[22:36] <oberoc> caroline: want to see what was going on in your machine
[22:37] <saysay> Can not see Windows Share on Ubuntu:::Windows is reporting "Unknown user name or bad password" can anyone help?
[22:37] <neurobuntu> rainwalker: have you tried exaile?
[22:37] <caroline> oberoc, I would love to
[22:37] <maco_> oberoc: here
[22:37] <rainwalker> neurobuntu-away: yes I have, I didn't like it
[22:37] <SrgSantos54> caroline : i did that in the terminal and it gave me this rot@00-oo#
[22:38] <RodGo> heyy need some help on how to create new cronjobs on ubnutu hardy
[22:38] <bloodrock> neurob i use exaile i too like it better than armorak
[22:38] <connor> is it possible to use an xbox 360 usb network adapter on a linux pc to have wireless internet access?
[22:38] <RodGo> whe i run "sudo crontab -e" i get a command not found error
[22:38] <LebLinux> Guys, whats the name of the network tools GUI package? That has a list of net tools such as netstat,ping,nslookup, etc.. GUI.
[22:38] <ph8> has anyone got 3 monitors with ubuntu? do i just need two network cards?
[22:38] <maco> oberoc: i'm the chick behind you
[22:38] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - if you have drivers
[22:39] <connor> deadkennedy2880: where can i get the drivers?
[22:39] <oberoc> maco: thanks
[22:39] <rainwalker> LebLinux: are you talking about the System > Administration > Network window?
[22:39] <the_shark> were are the logs for kde?
[22:39] <oberoc> maco: canyou help SrgSantos?
[22:39] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - windows driver and ndiswrapper, i know it works on windows
[22:39] <maco> RodGo: put them in /etc/crontab
[22:39] <SrgSantos54> can someone plz help me
[22:39] <Jimfox> i tried to run second life on the terminal but this is what gave me: Warning: Did not register secondlife:// handler with KDE: Directory /home/jimfox/.kde/share/services does not exist.
[22:39] <maco> RodGo: or if you want to simply say "daily" "monthly" etc, /etc/cron.monthly/ /etc/cron.daily/ etc
[22:39] <LebLinux> rainwalker: does it contain the net tools mentioned above?
[22:39] <maco> SrgSantos54: what's up?
[22:39] <connor> deadkennedy2880: will it allow me to access the internet wirelessy with the adapter?
[22:40] <oberoc> caroline: is the fan going crazy when you are closing the lid?
[22:40] <RodGo> maco: what should i do if i want to run a task every 20 minutes?
[22:40] <rainwalker> LebLinux: ah, I think you want System > Administration > Network Tools
[22:40] <saysay> Can not see Windows Share on Ubuntu:::Windows is reporting "Unknown user name or bad password" can anyone help?
[22:40] <maco> RodGo: */20 in the minutes column
[22:40] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - if its a wireless adaptor, and you have correct drivers (say for windows xp) and install the drivers with ndiswrapper, you have good chances
[22:40] <SrgSantos54> maco
[22:41] <LebLinux> rainwalker: yah I think so, do you know the name of this package in cl?
[22:41] <SrgSantos54> i need help with my external hhd
[22:41] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - finding the drivers might be tricky
[22:41] <rainwalker> LebLinux: cl?
[22:41] <connor> ndiswrapper?
[22:41] <connor> whats that
[22:41] <LebLinux> command line.
[22:41] <mcphail> RodGo: is "/usr/bin/crontab" present on the system?
[22:41] <oberoc> maco: he's having problems with his windows external HDD
[22:41] <rainwalker> LebLinux: gnome-nettool
[22:41] <connor> The computer i need the wireless on has no internet
[22:42] <connor> where can i simply get drivers for it?
[22:42] <rainwalker> connor: ndiswrapper is a common tool used to get wireless drivers to work
[22:42] <LebLinux> rainwalker: thank you!
[22:42] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - ndiswrapper uses the windows drivers and emulates them for linux
[22:42] <RodGo> mcphail: /usr/bin/crontab: No such file or directory
[22:42] <rainwalker> LebLinux: no prolem :P
[22:42] <connor> But its an official xbox 360 usb network adapter
[22:42] <oberoc> maco; I think it's mounting problem
[22:42] <maco> SrgSantos54: did you put a line for it in your /etc/fstab?
[22:42] <connor> have people gotten them to work on a pc to get wireless internet?
[22:42] <RodGo> but i can sudo nano /etc/crontab
[22:42] <rainwalker> LebLinux: if you ever wonder what command is used to start an app, just drag it from the menu onto a panel, right-click the launcher and look at it's properties
[22:43] <caroline> you should see something like "Attached scsi genetic sg3 type 0
[22:43] <the_shark> were do i find system logs in kde?
[22:43] <DeadKennedy2880> ndiswrapper is supposed to be able to emulate most (if not all) usb, windows xp drivers/devices
[22:43] <maco> the_shark: system logs are DE-independent. they're still in /var/log/*
[22:43] <mastrgamr> is there anyone that can help me with installing nVidia drivers on Wubi
[22:43] <connor> can i transfer the drivers to a usb stick?
[22:43] <connor> i need this adapter to work on a computer with no internet on it
[22:43] <oren> how to get japanese in open office?
[22:43] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - yes, but ive only seen ps2 and xbox wireless adaptors work on windows (i figure it should work though with ndiswrapper)
[22:43] <beastax> hey
[22:44] <maco> oren: do you want the app itself to run in japanese or do you just want to type in japanese?
[22:44] <caroline> another interesting question I'm mounting a drive as /home/user/Movies it works ok but It seems to mount in windows as a drive
[22:44] <vamushka>  mastrgamr  all you should have to do is try to activate your visual graphics, that should auto-download your nvidia drivers
[22:44] <beastax> can someone advise me please, just installed 8.04, and when running apps in fullscreen at native res (1280x1024) they keep "popping" out of fullscreen
[22:44] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - get ndiswrapper and have your ubuntu CD for the dependencies
[22:44] <mastrgamr> the problem is. it cant download the Drivers
[22:44] <mastrgamr> i get errors
[22:44] <caroline> another interesting question I'm mounting a drive as /home/user/Movies it works ok but It seems to mount in gnome(lol) as a drive
[22:44] <connor> how do i use ndiswrapper?
[22:45] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - ndiswrapper on the usb stick/cd/backup drive
[22:45] <saysay> mastrgamer what graphics card do you have
[22:45] <mastrgamr> nVidia 7150M
[22:45] <oren> maco: only type. i can do it in gedit with scim. when i hit ctrl+space in open office it types in gibrish. i might need fonts?
[22:45] <saysay> I have a 9800, had to download a beta driver from nvidia
[22:45] <aguitel> how to speed up boot process in ubuntu ?
[22:45] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - do a google search for it, but make sure you get those drivers too (on the external hdd)
[22:46] <connor> i cant find drivers
[22:46] <beastax> anyone please?
[22:46] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - thats gonna be the tough part
[22:46] <connor> what does ndiswrapper do?
[22:46] <DeadKennedy2880> conner - ndiswrapper uses the windows drivers and emulates them for linux
[22:46] <beastax> its really annoying me, i might go back to fedora if i cant fix it
[22:46] <oberoc> beastax: What apps?
[22:46] <mastrgamr> When i enable my Nvidia graphics hardware, it tries to install the new drivers but it give an error
[22:47] <beastax> so far xmoto and urbanterror
[22:47] <saysay> mastergamr install the drivers manually
[22:47] <beastax> ive not had it installed long and my old storage drive seems to be knackered (bios wont detect it)
[22:47] <Guest83238> for wireless install ndisgtk then windows driver
[22:47] <oberoc> beastax: What are those appa?
[22:47] <nickrud> mastrgamr so what's the error? No info, no real help :)
[22:47] <maco> oren: it should work just the same as with gedit, so yeah, try changing what font you're using in OOo to one that supports those characters
[22:47] <beastax> games
[22:47] <caroline> love xmoto took me forever to learn how to play at all
[22:47] <beastax> oberoc, games
[22:48] <saysay> Can not see Windows Share on Ubuntu:::Windows is reporting "Unknown user name or bad password" can anyone help?
[22:48] <oren> maco: what font support japanese?
[22:48] <oberoc> beastax: Can you fire it up from the cmd line?
[22:48] <aguitel> how to speed up boot process in ubuntu ?
[22:48] <teethdood> how come vmware is not in the repos?
[22:48] <beastax> yeah
[22:48] <caroline> beastax, I swapped a motherboard on a drive on friday and now it works again
[22:48] <nickrud> !upstart | aguitel
[22:48] <tin> aguitel: do you know why it is slow?
[22:48] <mastrgamr> my Error when i use the terminal to activate the nVidia driver... http://paste.ubuntu.com/23603/
[22:48] <caroline> now sat in a nas box
[22:48] <user_> teethdood: its closed source, better use virtualbox
[22:49] <maco> oren: ones with "gothic" in the name usually do
[22:49] <beastax> caroline, yeah, the drive was faulty in my old box though, and ironically the very last time i shut it down i got a shedload of errors on it
[22:49] <aguitel> tin ;hardy is to slow in many pcs
[22:49] <beastax> like, bad errors ;S
[22:49] <oren> maco: can't see any gothic. where do i get more fonts and how do i add them?
[22:49] <beastax> but nevermind, i have a new pc now, but a terrible problem with fullscreen games!
[22:49] <Illuzionz> Hello, i have a question;
[22:49] <Illuzionz> Why is there a "about me" function in ubuntu? why is there a option to fill in my personal details?
[22:49] <Illuzionz>  whats it for?
[22:49] <oberoc> beastax: See if it gives you any errors
[22:49] <rainwalker> aguitel: from now on, please ask your question only once
[22:49] <theresaf> i am having a problem with installing java jdk onto my ubuntu
[22:49] <beastax> oberoc, no, it doesnt
[22:50] <beastax> afair
[22:50] <beastax> brb, double check
[22:50] <nickrud> mastrgamr do sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx , then try the install of nvidia-glx-new again
[22:50] <mastrgamr> any1 know what this mean O__O http://paste.ubuntu.com/23603/
[22:50] <oberoc> beastax: can flags on the cmd line app
[22:50] <saysay> mastergamr I had the same problem
[22:50] <oren> maco: i found gothic. but..
[22:51] <oren> maco: it shows circles instead of characters.
[22:51] <nickrud> aguitel or wait about 5-10 minutes before asking again. Someone may have dropped in who knows your answer
[22:51] <theresaf> can anyone help me get jdk 6 working on ubuntu
[22:51] <SrgSantos54> maco
[22:51] <nickrud> theresaf sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[22:51] <theresaf> i installed it but its giving me an error
[22:51] <theresaf> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# java
[22:51] <theresaf> java: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:51] <aguitel> is upstart speed up the system ?
[22:52] <saysay> then i went to http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.09/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.09-pkg1.run
[22:52] <oberoc> beastax: gtg
[22:52] <nickrud> theresaf did you install with apt-get/synaptic ?
[22:52] <maco> SrgSantos54: is the drive in your /etc/fstab?
[22:52] <Illuzionz1> Can any1 tell me the purpose of the function to fill in my personal details?
[22:52] <mastrgamr> I get the same error when i reinstall then try to install a new nVidia driver
[22:52] <neurobuntu> will debs compiled for ubuntu work in debian? what about visa versa
[22:52] <theresaf> i followed the instrux on ubuntuforums
[22:52] <SrgSantos54> maco can u answer the other window
[22:52] <SrgSantos54> plz
[22:52] <nickrud> mastrgamr no error on the reinstall?
[22:52] <maco> oren: circles? O_o rectangles, odd unicode things...those i could get, but circles?
[22:52] <maco> neurobuntu: sometimes
[22:53] <nickrud> theresaf there's more than one set of instructions on there, depending on needs/skills ....
[22:53] <maco> neurobuntu: if they're just python apps, then probably since that's not compiled.  compiled stuff...maybe
[22:53] <mastrgamr> i got no error on reinstall
[22:53] <theresaf> the one downloading the bin then fakerooting
[22:53] <oren> maco: it's ok. i found good one.
[22:53] <oren> maco: thanks.
[22:53] <Illuzionz1> Can any1 tell me the purpose of the function to fill in my personal details?
[22:53] <nickrud> mastrgamr a sec while I look over the bug lists
[22:54] <nickrud> theresaf with java-package ?
[22:54] <rainwalker> neurobuntu: since Ubuntu is Debian-based, I would assume yes, but make sure there isn't anything the .deb needs that's exclusive to Ubuntu
[22:54] <theresaf> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76702&page=6
[22:55] <crimsun_> neurobuntu: it's not a good idea to mix and match debs across distributions
[22:55] <esac> when i reboot, it seems to take a long time on CIFS. is it because i have an SMB share mounted via CIFS, and if so how can i get it to not hang there ?
[22:56] <nickrud> theresaf that is verrrry old.  You should do remove the packages you made and installed, and then sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[22:56] <amenado> esac you are booting off of cifs file system? i dont think it is possible
[22:57] <nickrud> mastrgamr still looking
[22:57] <esac> amenado, no i have an smb share mounted via cifs
[22:57] <mastrgamr> k
[22:57] <amenado> esac if I were you, I delay the mounting of that smb share as much as possible or else you'd be waiting for a long time if network is not available to mount it
[22:58] <esac> amenado, how do i delay mounting it and ignore unmounting it ?
[22:58] <amenado> esac modify your fstab, mount the share manually
[22:58] <nickrud>  mastrgamr http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showpost.php?s=67ea1b1ff4117cd0f51884077e95c8ea&p=5185342&postcount=4
[22:59] <miguelrsilva> hi. I'm having a problem to install the ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64. can I install the ubuntu-8.04-server-i386 on a amd athlon 64 machine?
[22:59] <carlyn> theresaf:  try sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk if you want normal Sun java
[22:59] <orangey> hey all!
[22:59] <nickrud> mastrgamr bug #36625
[22:59] <__yy> miguelrsilva: you can install a 32 bit os on a 64 bit machine, yes
[22:59] <orangey> How do I configure my standby nowadays?? It seems /etc/defaults/acpi-support is deprecated!
[22:59] <molliso1> hello everyone, i asked a question earlier but my internet connection immediately died.
[23:00] <narcoclepsy> how do i change my default java to use the sun packages instead of the gcj garbage :-)
[23:00] <orangey> narcoclepsy: update-alternatives or some such
[23:00] <orangey> narcoclepsy: do a quick google for it.
[23:00] <nickrud> narcoclepsy sudo update-alternatives --config java
[23:00] <miguelrsilva> __yy: ty
[23:00] <nickrud> !google | orangey ;)
[23:00] <narcoclepsy> excellent thanks
[23:00] <orangey> narcoclepsy: right. what nickrud said : )
[23:01] <carlyn> theresaf: First time I typed java --version    Ubuntu gave me a list of java s and jvm combinations to choose from
[23:01] <narcoclepsy> yeah i got it all plus the "check google you lazy loaf" :-)
[23:01] <molliso1> I upgraded from Gusty to Hardy on an machine with an ATI graphics card and now my graphics don't work properly. I don't want to use the proprietary driver, plus there is a bug with installing it on my machine. Does anoyone know how I can downgrade to the graphics driver I was using in Gusty??
[23:01] <orangey> narcoclepsy: I recognize that it would be hard to figure out completely independently. I just didn't remember the exact command, and felt you could make it from my starting point. However, nickrud's point is well taken.
[23:02] <nickrud> molliso1 first I'd try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , that will write a new xorg.conf for hardy, saving your old one
[23:02] <molliso1> thanks, i think i already tried that but i will try again to make sure.
[23:03] <nickrud> orangey giving the right google terms is helpful, usually pulls up good reading ;)
[23:03] <nickrud> molliso1 what ati card?
[23:03] <orangey> but what really confuses me is how we're supposed to configure standby / restore nowadays.. No more /etc/default/acpi-support?
[23:03] <molliso1> X1400 i believe
[23:03] <molliso1> i actually don't know how to tell for sure - let me know if there is a command i can use
[23:03] <narcoclepsy> so since sun is making java truley open source maybe they can ship the next release with a normal java setup ;-)
[23:03] <nickrud> molliso1 lspci | grep -i vga will way for sure
[23:03] <miguelrsilva> i beleave i'm getting this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrom-detect/+bug/207431. it's probably not going to happen wth the ubuntu-8.04-server-i386, rigth?
[23:03] <recon69> new day, new ubuntu problem, just booted my system after updating last night, now my max screen resolution  is 640/460, no need to reply and i will never be able to read it.
[23:03] <theresaf> ty nickrud, i am new to ubuntu having grown up starting with yggdrasil slackware and suse
[23:04] <orangey> narcoclepsy: it's one of those things I'll believe when I see.. though it would be amazing if we could.
[23:04] <nickrud> narcoclepsy java get's shipped that way in debian/ubuntu cuz you can have many versions available, and choose which you want to use at the moment with that command.
[23:04] <molliso1> nickrud, here is my graphics card for sure: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg
[23:04] <molliso1> wait, nm
[23:04] <nickrud> hahahhaa
[23:04] <molliso1> ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X1400
[23:04] <molliso1> lol
[23:05] <narcoclepsy> nickrud i am just piking some fun :-)
[23:05] <molliso1> what do i do to restart xorg?
[23:05] <narcoclepsy> ctrl alt backspace?
[23:06] <DeadKennedy2880> molliso1- i have the same vid card, hardy installs restricted driver and everything works perfect
[23:06] <DeadKennedy2880> too slow
[23:07] <nickrud> narcoclepsy that's evil for someone not expecting it :)
[23:07] <mollison> nickrud, restarting xorg did not fix the problem
[23:07] <mollison> what would you recommend now?
[23:07] <DeadKennedy2880> molliso1- i have the same vid card, hardy installs restricted driver and everything works perfect
[23:07] <nickrud> DeadKennedy2880 I was looking around for confirmation that the free ati truly supports the x1400, I'm not sure
[23:07] <narcoclepsy> nickrud whats evil
[23:08] <Pupeno> Hello.
[23:08] <nickrud> narcoclepsy killing someone's X like that, they may have an open app with unsaved data
[23:08] <narcoclepsy> ctl alt backspace? they asked to restart X. i figured they were in it already
[23:08] <satan_> oi
[23:08] <Pupeno> Anybody running Plone on Ubuntu using packages?
[23:08] <narcoclepsy> well no evil was intended.
[23:08] <lwizardl> hi
[23:08] <nickrud> narcoclepsy that's why the smiley ;)
[23:08] <mollison> DeadKennedy, what happens is in restricted driver manager, I enable the driver but it never actually goes to being in use
[23:08] <DeadKennedy2880> nickrud - cant tell you what the papers say, but i run games, movies, compiz, all at native resolution with no driver effort.
[23:08] <mollison> not sure why
[23:08] <narcoclepsy> if you're explerimenting and configuring then you should not leave stuff unsaved and open :-)
[23:08] <kre> hi
[23:08] <carlyn>  nickrud: Here the list of options I got for javac and classpath system libraries  http://pastebin.org/46853  (dont have a nice java jvm list)
[23:08] <lwizardl> how do I enable support in apt-get for using Tor
[23:08] <mollison> there were some people on a forum with the same problem, there was never a solution
[23:08] <lwizardl> ?
[23:08] <mastrgamr> ....
[23:08] <theresaf> nickrud didnt work
[23:09] <DeadKennedy2880> restriced drivers in use, was by default the first time i bootedup 8.04
[23:09] <theresaf> Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:09] <theresaf>  sun-java6-bin
[23:09] <theresaf>  sun-java6-jre
[23:09] <theresaf>  sun-java6-jdk
[23:09] <theresaf> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[23:09] <FloodBot1> theresaf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <mastrgamr> who helped me???
[23:09] <mastrgamr> i owe u so much O__O weee.. the drivers installed!!
[23:09] <mollison> i had to enable restricted drivers, was not by default, and then it never actually switched to the proprietary driver.
[23:09] <nickrud> theresaf the real error came earlier, put the full contents on paste.ubuntu.com
[23:09] <nickrud> mastrgamr yw
[23:10] <orangey> Anybody successfully configuring suspend / standby / hibernate out here?
[23:10] <DeadKennedy2880> mollison - i remember i had to fight with drivers for 7.10 to work with my x1400, but hardy installed and recognized it perfectly
[23:10] <nickrud> carlyn you did the apt-get install sun-java6-jdk , just didnt' paste the rest of the output?
[23:11] <kre> i wonder y i can't start my pidget
[23:11] <theresaf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23610/
[23:11] <Panic_Attack> I am using Nvidia restricted driver in Ubuntu 8.04, the version is 169.12, is this really the newest version in restricted respository??
[23:12] <mollison> so does anyone know how i can downgrade to the previous driver?
[23:12] <friedtofu> it must be. - but the nvidia one is 173.14.05 or something like that
[23:12] <friedtofu> for linux
[23:12] <nickrud> theresaf try sudo apt-get remove --purge sun-java6-bin
[23:12] <Panic_Attack> yes that is what I am wondering, the 169.12 is getting old
[23:13] <mollison> actually what happens DeadKennedy is when I enable the restricted driver and reboot, it acts like I now have an unknown, generic graphics card and gives me low resolution.
[23:13] <nickrud> Panic_Attack that's hardy? If so, you can try using envyng-gtk, but see the following:
[23:13] <nickrud> !envyng | Panic_Attack
[23:13] <DeadKennedy2880> mollison - did you actully install ubuntu, or are you using virtualbox or something?
[23:13] <theresaf> nickrud done the remove
[23:13] <lastent> hi, I used to have a network with the my brother XP SP2 PC, but know that he upgraded to SP#., I can't connect to that pc, any help please
[23:14] <lwizardl> how do i allow APT to use my proxy?
[23:14] <carlyn> nickrud: I installed a different javac  not sun but jikes - better bytecode and error messages, but most people use sdk
[23:14] <nickrud> theresaf now, do  dpkg -l '*java*' | grep ^ii , and put the output on the pastebin
[23:14] <Panic_Attack> ok, I know envy, but thought that "official" repository was safer
[23:14] <theresaf> carlyn i am having a problem like yu as well
[23:14] <nickrud> carlyn I'm not java expert by any means, just fair at ubuntu packaging (wrote some docs about java-package)
[23:15] <mollison> DeadKennedy: I actually installed ubuntu. I'm running on a thinkpad T60. Had gusty working on here fine for several months.
[23:15] <nickrud> Panic_Attack it is, but envyng-gtk is in the official repos, and some people i trust have (grudgingly) said it works
[23:15] <carlyn> theresaf: which problem? I solved the classpath problem... and now to try cacao
[23:15] <theresaf> nickrud java-package and java-common only
[23:15] <nickrud> theresaf purge java-common as well
[23:15] <theresaf> carlyn just getting jdk to install
[23:15] <Panic_Attack> ok, I'll try envy. I have tried it with 7.10 and it worked fine
[23:16] <gringo> Can someone help me with this? postfix+dovecot with ssl/tls and mysql-backend http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/380182/
[23:16] <Panic_Attack> thx
[23:16] <makario> I don't have the option to hibernate on my laptop. I can suspend just fine. Any help?
[23:16] <lastent> #ubuntu-network
[23:16] <makario> (It's not that hibernation doesn't work necessarily, I just don't have that button.)
[23:16] <theresaf> done
[23:16] <mollison> Is ther e a channel for graphics-related problems?
[23:16] <nickrud> theresaf now try sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[23:16] <DeadKennedy2880> mollison - thought id ask, you cant imagine how many time that happens to people who try using V.Box or something. as for uninstalling the driver and reinstalling older drivers - a higher up geek will have to guide you. ive been lucky not to have to do it yet
[23:17] <mollison> ok, thanks DK.
[23:17] <DeadKennedy2880> mollison - wish i coulda helped more
[23:17] <mollison> Do you happen to also have a T60?
[23:17] <snova> mollison: what's the problem?
[23:17] <DeadKennedy2880> mollison - no i have an acer 5672
[23:17] <DeadKennedy2880> that i love
[23:18] <mollison> snova: I upgraded from Gusty to Hardy and now my graphics aren't working properly. If i enable the proprietary ATI driver, when it reboots, I get an error and go into low resolution.
[23:18] <mollison> right now i'm using the generic driver, and the refresh is very slow, so i can't really browse the web even.
[23:18] <nickrud> mollison downgrading packages to a prior release is not easy, especially with something as integral as X. You could _try_ downloading the deb for it from packages.ubuntu.com, removing xserver-xorg-driver-ati , and dpkg -i the older. Not something I'd recommend, but that's a method
[23:18] <orangey> how can I use /etc/pm/* to dictate that I want S1, not S3?
[23:18] <mollison> do I have any other options?
[23:19] <bringatowel> mollison, did you try using xfix from the recovery options?
[23:19] <theresaf> same problem nickrud
[23:19] <nickrud> mollison determine what the real issue is
[23:19] <nickrud> theresaf is this x64?
[23:19] <theresaf> also didnt download anything new just reselected the java-common
[23:19] <mollison> bringatowel - no - i didn't see any recovery options
[23:19] <snova> mollison: i'm using the proprietary driver now, though i'm not sure what version this is. i don't think i can help, but i think i used dexconf at one point
[23:19] <NetEcho_> For some reason Java has stopped working for website javascripts again. I try to open the webpage with the javascript and it closes the window after the applet loads
[23:19] <theresaf> nope a dell latitude x300 running on a persistant usb key
[23:19] <NetEcho_> if I switch to openjdk I won't even allow me to open the window
[23:19] <mollison> thanks snova.
[23:19] <nickrud> theresaf that's ok, I just wanted to be sure it wasn't installed on the system. The deb package had been stored in /var/cache/apt/archive
[23:20] <jamie> i can not figure out how to get my 5.1 surround working
[23:20] <bringatowel> mollison, hit escape at startup to see the grub boot options, pick recovery mode and there should be an xfix option, not sure but this might help
[23:20] <snova> mollison: or aticonfig
[23:20] <bringatowel> !ati | mollison
[23:20] <snova> mollison: yes, i think it was aticonfig
[23:21] <NetEcho_> How do I fix java so I can play java based web games with it?
[23:21] <dstrbdfrk1> hey whats the best multiplayor online game i can install ??
[23:21] <nickrud> theresaf I'm not sure what is happening there, I've never seen that problem. A sec
[23:21] <carlyn> theresaf: jikes with gij installed fine, but Im trying a different JVM from source - also a problem.. next post my question :)
[23:21] <snova> dstrbdfrk1: bzflag is kind of fun. but increase the graphics first.
[23:22] <bringatowel> dstrbdfrk1, nexuiz is pretty fun, so is tremulous and openarena if you like FPS
[23:22] <DeadKennedy2880> dstrbdfrk1 - i like urban terror
[23:22] <mastrgamr> ummm how do you install stuff on linux? like whats the linux's .exe file?
[23:22] <theresaf> carlyn i cant get it to install
[23:22] <dstrbdfrk1> ok i was just wondering whitch is the most popular
[23:22] <bringatowel> mastrgamr, go to Applications -> Add / Remove
[23:22] <snova> mastrgamr: linux doesn't care about file extensions as much.
[23:22] <mollison> ubotto: I tried the link you sent me; the directions don't work because -r is not a valid switch for dpkg-reconfigure.
[23:22] <creeed> hello friends, I just wanna know how can I manage the daemons, witch start automatially after init on booting?
[23:22] <snova> mastrgamr: you won't find .exe files (except in a few cases, like Wine)
[23:22] <mollison>  Enable accelerated the accelerated ATI graphics driver in the restricted-manager, then do: {{{sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh linux-restricted-modules-uname -r sudo insmod /lib/modules/uname -r/volatile/fglrx.ko}}} Log out and log in.
[23:22] <mollison> This is what I need but that doesn't work (yes, even removing the {{{ and doing it as separate commands LOL)
[23:23] <NetEcho_> Howcome Java just randomly stopped working and causes all Firefox windows with java scripts in them to close?
[23:23] <nickrud> theresaf are you doing this on the live cd?
[23:23] <mastrgamr> i have a tar.gz file. and i dont know how to install what i want out of it
[23:23] <bringatowel> creeed, try system -> admin -> services, but generally its better to configure each program
[23:23] <jamie> i can not figure out how to get my 5.1 surround working
[23:23] <snova> creeed: the /etc/init.d folder holds boot scripts. the /ect/rc.X folders contain links to /etc/init.d and are run on runlevel changes. that's all i know.
[23:23] <DeadKennedy2880> masrtgamr - that an archive
[23:23] <mastrgamr> example i downloaded Code::Blocks
[23:23] <Starnestommy> mastrgamr: extract it, then read the readme or install files that should be in it
[23:24] <mastrgamr> soo how i instal wats int he archive?
[23:24] <crusher_> anyone know how to install cinelerra
[23:24] <mastrgamr> ok
[23:24] <narcoclepsy> mastrgamr: You need to.. yeah what Starnestommy said..
[23:24] <Soundbuay> how does one set firewall settings in ubuntu
[23:24] <carlyn> checkinstall   for both classpath and cacao receive no errors - both end with dpkg -r  xxx   message, but says cacao is not installed - still need sudo ...
[23:24] <theresaf> nickrud, i think i have found the problem
[23:24] <crusher_> or is there a program/file that I can use to install it
[23:24] <narcoclepsy> mastrgamr: uncompress it and read the readme file that is mostlikely tgere
[23:24] <snova> mastrgamr: specifically, read the INSTALL file. it usually exists.
[23:24] <crusher_> I have tried about 4 different things but I cannot get cinelerra installed
[23:24] <nickrud> theresaf that's good, cuz I found exactly one ref on google to that error (congrats, by the way on your uniqueness ;)
[23:24] <theresaf> the dpkg make created it as jdk not java and its still installed,
[23:25] <NetEcho_> I'm having this issue where I try to run javascript based games on pogo.com and when I use sun-java6 it forcefully closes the browser window and if I use openjdk it doesn't even let me open the applet
[23:25] <theresaf> so i need to purge the jdk package
[23:25] <nickrud> theresaf ah, you still haven't removed the ones you made?
[23:25] <theresaf> they didnt show up
[23:25] <bringatowel> mollison, which command gave an error?
[23:25] <creeed> bringatowel, I did but I dont found all daemons there!
[23:25] <theresaf> i found it by looking at update-alternatives
[23:25] <nickrud> theresaf I was looking for the ones from ubuntu, I'd assumed you had removed them earlier as asked. But that's good, you found it
[23:26] <bringatowel> creeed, ok then look what snova said
[23:26] <mollison> Is there a channel focused on helping people with graphics problems???
[23:26] <creeed> okay
[23:26] <NetEcho_> I'm having this issue where I try to run javascript based games on pogo.com and when I use sun-java6 it forcefully closes the browser window and if I use openjdk it doesn't even let me open the applet
[23:26] <greenfishx3> whats the greatest audio tool on linux? for ripping (eac) converting lossless etc etc?
[23:26] <webcamwonder> !poll | greenfishx3
[23:26] <crusher_> anyone here use cinelerra
[23:26] <rainwalker> greenfishx3: mencoder or ffmpeg
[23:26] <theresaf> i cant find the package to remove
[23:27] <snova> greenfishx3: for ripping, i just use KAudioCreator. it works nicely.
[23:27] <nickrud> theresaf dpkg -l | grep jdk maybe
[23:27] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, Java is not the same thing as Javascript
[23:27] <NetEcho_> bringatowel,  ok then java
[23:27] <nickrud> theresaf you made the package yourself, right? then look in the directory where you made them for the names ;)
[23:27] <greenfishx3> ubottu, so its not okay to ask for a specific software in here? thanks rainwalker, snova
[23:28] <NetEcho_> bringatowel,  I installed sun-java6 and it worked for all of 2 hours and now it hasn't been working all week
[23:28] <futuresoon> botsnack
[23:28] <theresaf> ok its only got the one still wont install
[23:28] <rainwalker> greenfishx3: ubottu is a bot, just FYI, and #ubuntu is not the place for polls
[23:28] <NetEcho_> every time I ask for help nobody listens in here
[23:28] <craigbass1976> Anyone else have trouble setting up Hardy LAMP server?  Can't think of any more packages I have to start, update, or install
[23:28] <DeadKennedy2880> greenfishx3 - its a support channel for ubuntu
[23:28] <NetEcho_> and if I go to ##java they'll ban me
[23:28] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, yeah keep using sun java, maybe there is something wrong with the browser plugin?
[23:28] <greenfishx3> okay my bad then
[23:29] <NetEcho_> bringatowel, how do I know?
[23:29] <anteaya> i am getting a readline error with one of my apps.  No such file to load readline.  Synaptic identifies readline already installed.  Why would I get a readline error if readline is already installed?
[23:29] <DeadKennedy2880> greenfishx3 - np
[23:29] <bringatowel> craigbass1976, what's the problem?
[23:29] <theresaf> nickrud http://paste.ubuntu.com/23614/
[23:30] <tunys> http://tinyurl.com/57ty6c
[23:30] <snova> anteaya: what's the problem? when does it occur? to what program?
[23:30] <NetEcho_> How do I know if my browser plugin is broken?
[23:30] <anteaya> snova: in rails when i run script/console
[23:31] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, can you find the java browser plugin in the package manager?
[23:31] <anteaya> snova, http://pastie.org/224142
[23:31] <snova> anteaya: i don't know much about ruby (just that it's a scripting language).
[23:31] <theFATMAN> how do i install fonts?
[23:31] <NetEcho_> bringatowel, Sun Java Plugin?
[23:31] <craigbass1976> bringatowel, mysql-server-5.0 apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql all installed.  Iget the message on a php script pulling from a database "Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in file ...."
[23:31] <carlyn> theresaf: What does it say? Have you tried from System>Administration>Synaptic Manager?    (search on java to get started - then ask again)
[23:31] <anteaya> snova, fair enough, do you know anything about readlines?
[23:31] <NetEcho_> bringatowel, yea I see it should I remove it?
[23:31] <newToLinux> which version of squid do i need to install for hardy heron? advise please
[23:32] <newToLinux> the version 2 or 3?
[23:32] <webcamwonder> !java
[23:32] <Steven1> !grub
[23:32] <snova> anteaya: just that it's a library, from which only readline() is really useful.
[23:32] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, that sounds like it, maybe try reinstalling it?
[23:32] <webcamwonder> !java | theresaf
[23:32] <esac> i added kvm and kvm_intel to both /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and they still get loaded at boot ! any ideas ?
[23:32] <theresaf> carlyn did you look at the pastebin
[23:32] <snova> anteaya: if the problem occurs when you run the program, it's not a library dependency issue
[23:32] <newToLinux> !squid
[23:32] <theresaf> webcamwonder i need the jdk not the damn  jre - i am a developer
[23:32] <snova> anteaya: unless you are running a ruby script? then install whatever bindings exist to ruby for libreadline
[23:32] <wols> !jdk
[23:32] <anteaya> snova, oh okay, if it isn't a dependency issue, where would the issue lie?
[23:33] <wols> !jre
[23:33] <trucMuche> Lisa1340,  !!!!!!
[23:33] <snova> anteaya: are you running a ruby script?
[23:33] <nickrud> theresaf that file should be in sun-java6-bin package, which is claiming it's not finding it. Are you doing this in a live cd?
[23:33] <wols> theresaf: if you really are a dev, this info is enough for you to know how to get it
[23:33] <snova> anteaya: it looks like it
[23:33] <bringatowel> craigbass1976, that seems like a php error, not sure what would cause that if you have all the php sql packages installed
[23:33] <anteaya> snova, rails is a ruby program so i guess yes
[23:33] <theresaf> nickrud as i said i am doing it from a persistant usb key
[23:33] <anteaya> snova,  and i have the libreadlinesruby installed
[23:33] <trucMuche> Lisa1340, stop your private **** please !!
[23:34] <NetEcho_> bringatowel,  same issue the apple gives me a grey applet box and then eventually closes
[23:34] <NetEcho_> *applet
[23:34] <craigbass1976> bringatowel, and that script, other than having different user/pass is the same running fine on two feisty boxes and a cent5 box
[23:34] <theresaf> ie installed on usb from livecd
[23:34] <theresaf> then booted off key
[23:34] <nickrud> theresaf I missed you saying that; that's the equiv of a live cd. The only error I've found like that on the web (the unique one) was someone trying to do it in a live environment
[23:34] <snova> anteaya: well, like i said, i don't know anything about ruby. sorry.
[23:34] <Asymmetry> What's a good GUI app to use for encoding/transcoding to iPod-compatible video formats?
[23:34] <anteaya> snova: thanks for your time
[23:35] <theresaf> i cant blow away the windoze partition though
[23:35] <theresaf> it has expensive licenced windoze sw on it
[23:35] <nickrud> theresaf you don't need to. Are you using vista?
[23:35] <theresaf> nah xp pro i think
[23:35] <Blaqlight> theresaf, sure you can.. its can its called delete.
[23:35] <DeadKennedy2880> theresaf dualboot
[23:35] <Steven1> Can someone help me find my hard drive labeled hdb1 please? Vista screwed up it's own Bootmanager and now I have to overwrite it with grub to get back in.
[23:35] <theresaf> wouldnt touch vista with a barge pole
[23:35] <nickrud> theresaf well, if it was vista I'd say use vista to resize it's partition and install ubuntu in the remaining space. But the ubuntu installer will do that for you with xp
[23:36] <bringatowel> craigbass1976, its not a problem with the script, just php or php sql functions are not configured properly on the system
[23:36] <trucMuche> thanks ompaul
[23:36] <theFATMAN> how do i install fonts?
[23:36] <Steven1> Put them in your fonts folder.
[23:36] <theresaf> blaqlight are you going to pay for the £3000 of sw then
[23:36] <nickrud> theresaf I really think it's something to do with the live environment, but don't know enough to say for sure
[23:36] <craigbass1976> Steven1, just remember that grub labels them differently than linux does
[23:36] <Alfarin> Thanks ompaul
[23:36] <Blaqlight> theresaf, my laptop came with xp pro media center edition. its now gone, long gone.
[23:36] <theresaf> what can i do to update the key to a better library thing?
[23:36] <Steven1> craigbass1976: That's what I need help with. I need to find out the grub name for hdb1.
[23:36] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, reinstall it from Synaptic package manager
[23:37] <craigbass1976> Steven1, hd1,0 or something like that for drive/partition
[23:37] <theresaf> blaqlight i need the windoze partition and its only a 20gb drive, i am running ubuntu from a 4gb usb key
[23:37] <Blaqlight> so there isn't any opensource equivelants for this software?
[23:37] <craigbass1976> Steven1, google.  I've got a kid in my lap so trying not to type much
[23:37] <NetEcho_> bringatowel, thats how I did it
[23:37] <Steven1> craigbass1976: I tried (hd0,3) but that only got the grub loader for Linux working. Vista isn't in there. I was thinking of manualy editing it.
[23:37] <esac> !squid
[23:37] <bringatowel> Asymmetry, try Avidemux (with GTK)
[23:38] <theresaf> blaqlight ok can you get dreamweaver 8, office pro + vb .net , quickbooks and autocad for linux?
[23:38] <craigbass1976> Steven1, manually editing grub.conf?  nothing wrong with that.  keep the livecd handy though
[23:38]  * Asymmetry tries to, but has this problem with fat-fingering his password.
[23:38] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, make sure to uninstall the non-Sun java packages
[23:38] <purpleposeidon> so, uhm, tunys, I hate you.
[23:38] <DeadKennedy2880> theresaf - yes, on wine
[23:38] <Dhraakellian> does anyone have a copy of the .deb for linux-image-2.6.24-17-generic lying around?
[23:38] <Blaqlight> theresaf, ok.ok.ok I give
[23:38] <tunys> purpleposeidon, I think we're even
[23:38] <ompaul> Alfarin, your welcome
[23:39] <tunys> hey, no one go to that linke
[23:39] <theresaf> nickrud, so is there any packages i can install to change this from live to real
[23:39] <purpleposeidon> tunys: What have I ever done to you? :P
[23:39] <Blaqlight> DeadKennedy2880, xp pro won't work because of the lack of IE
[23:39] <bringatowel> theresaf, office = open office
[23:39] <nickrud> theresaf a simple solution is to buy a cheap 20gb hard drive for linux (hoping it's not a laptop)
[23:39] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Exactly. I don't remember the syntax for it but I could base it off of the Linux ones for example.  :P
[23:40] <nickrud> theresaf I've seen people install ubuntu on an external hard drive, it's possible you can do it on a usb key but I'm not sure.
[23:40] <Blaqlight> it would
[23:40] <TwoD> Hello all, I've got a weird problem: When configuring my comp to be a gateway for a second comp (cross-over cable) and my wireless internet access, I lost both my wired NIC icons in the nm-applet. I have no clue as how to get them back. One of them is connected to the other comp of course, and the other one was temporarily disabled via ifdown as I don't need it now.
[23:40] <Blaqlight> most parts of it work too... except for outlook
[23:40] <craigbass1976> Steven1, ok, kid's gone...  what's the linux partition (/dev/hda version) and what's it called in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:40] <theresaf> but its not a livecd as such as its persistant storage
[23:40] <Blaqlight> powerpoint word and excel all work with any special software (aside from wine)
[23:41] <theresaf> blaqlight i have to keep windoze for when i develop on C# and VB.net
[23:41] <Blaqlight> without*
[23:41] <Steven1> Linux partition is /dev/hdb3 and /dev/hdb4. Windows is on /dev/hdb1 but I need the grub name for it and how to edit grub.conf.
[23:41] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Linux partition is /dev/hdb3 and /dev/hdb4. Windows is on /dev/hdb1 but I need the grub name for it and how to edit grub.conf.
[23:41] <nickrud> theresaf but the environment is the live one, not a true install
[23:41] <craigbass1976> Steven1, I was wrong.  In ubuntu it's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:41] <DeadKennedy2880> blaqlight - i love crossover, getting things to work perfect can be a challenge but well worth it once running well.
[23:41] <NetEcho_> bringatowel,  uninstalled any openjdk stuff same issue
[23:42] <theresaf> so could i use the current version i am running to install a full version on another key?
[23:42] <amenado> !who
[23:42] <craigbass1976> Steven1, so I guess sudo gedit and open up that file.  paste the contents of it somewhere first and I'll have a look at it
[23:42] <Blaqlight> DeadKennedy2880, no experience with it. wine does all I need.
[23:43] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, hrm idk then, are you using firefox? maybe try with some other browser like opera, otherwise go to the ubuntu forums and look for info on java browser plugin
[23:43] <Blaqlight> theresaf, vb is all about windows I know.
[23:43] <serwrf> hi
[23:43] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Ok stupid question. Do I have to be in the Actual Ubuntu to do that or can I run it from the LiveCD as I am doing now?
[23:43] <amrik> Hey when I try to ssh into my Gutsy server it logs in but then it immediately logs me out. any ideas?
[23:43] <theresaf> amrik any errors when you do?
[23:43] <amrik> theresaf: none that i can see
[23:43] <craigbass1976> Steven1, you can do it fmro the livecd.  you have to find your installed Ubuntu's /boot/ folder though
[23:43] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Because I ran that command in terminal and a black text document opens.
[23:43] <theresaf> i had a problem the other day where my X session kept failing
[23:44] <amenado> amrik-> go see your /var/log/auth.log  file for hints
[23:44] <nickrud> theresaf if I had a 4 or 8 gig key I'd try it myself ;)
[23:44] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, you can also check if the sun java got installed properly, go to terminal and type: java -version
[23:44] <amrik> amenado: on this computer or on the server?
[23:44] <craigbass1976> Steven1, gedit should just fire up a gui text editor
[23:44] <nickrud> I'd love being able to work at other peoples machines with ubuntu rather than windows
[23:44] <amrik> amenado: i am authenticated fine
[23:44] <amenado> amrik-> on the host you are loggin into
[23:44] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Exactly. With nothing in it.
[23:45] <amrik> theresaf: is there a way to ssh and run a command immediately?
[23:45] <theresaf> ssh -c
[23:45] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Also, I have a partition for / and a partition for /home. How do I determine which is the boot partition without names?
[23:45] <NetEcho_> bringatowel, it shows the right version and if I use Opera it trys to have me install a browser plugin using a .RPM file for linux
[23:46] <craigbass1976> Steven1, right.  then you open up a file (big open button) and browse to the /boot/grub partition or your ubuntu INSTALL, not the livecd /boot/grub
[23:47] <theresaf> nickrud how can i start the install from here onto /dev/sdd1
[23:47] <Blaqlight> hmm wonder if I can install ubuntu on a headless keyboardless machine.
[23:47] <amenado> Steven1-> if you launched sudo grub and do  a  find /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:47] <Steven1> craigbass1976: OK what are the terminal commands?
[23:47] <dstrbdfrk1> has anyone tried to acess hotmail thru evolution mail?
[23:47] <Steven1> amenado: Ah thanks!
[23:47] <bastid_raZor> Blaqlight; you would need to have ssh running in order to do that. once you get ssh up you are fine.
[23:47] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, hmm is there any other download option?
[23:48] <NetEcho_> bringatowel,  .bin file
[23:48] <bringatowel> dstrbdfrk1, does hotmail support pop3 or imap?
[23:48] <craigbass1976> Steven1, well, you could vi the file, but I figured that gedit would be easier, especially since ubuntu ship with vi and not vim
[23:48] <Steven1> amenado: That command gets this output. '(hd0,3)'
[23:48] <craigbass1976> Steven1, either way, you have to find the file and edit it
[23:48] <Blaqlight> I can't get it running because Id have no idea where to start.
[23:48] <dstrbdfrk1> im not sure do you know how i can find out ?
[23:48] <amrik> it seems i am getting an EOF when i ssh in
[23:48] <craigbass1976> Steven1, gedit will be the user friendly version
[23:48] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Yes but what partition is it on?
[23:48] <amrik> so thats immediately terminating any ssh connection i try
[23:48] <amenado> Steven1-> then thats where your /boot is. use that for your menu.lst entry
[23:49] <bastid_raZor> Blaqlight; actually, headless.. i'm not sure you can install while it being headless.
[23:49] <craigbass1976> Steven1, be careful now....   sudo fdisk /dev/sdb
[23:49] <theresaf> amrik are you trying to log in as root?
[23:49] <dstrbdfrk1> i tried the reciving as pop.hotmail.com
[23:49] <amrik> theresaf: no just normal user
[23:49] <Steven1> craigbass1976: 'Unable to open /dev/sdb'
[23:49] <dstrbdfrk1> and sending as smtp.hotmail.com
[23:49] <craigbass1976> Steven1, then type a p (for print) at the menu and copy that to a pastebin somewhere
[23:49] <dstrbdfrk1> but it didnt work
[23:49] <craigbass1976> Steven1, ahh, balls
[23:49] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Did you mean hdb1?
[23:50] <craigbass1976> Steven1, sure
[23:50] <carlyn> theresai: No I hadnt notice the pastebin - but I out of ideas - You may need the jre as suggested for what you want to install right. I needed lots of dependencies I wasnt aware of.
[23:50] <craigbass1976> Steven1, no, hdb
[23:50] <craigbass1976> Steven1, what's hda then?
[23:50] <Blaqlight> bastid_raZor, so without a keyboard is fine, but without a monitor would be a problem?
[23:50] <Steven1> Linux
[23:50] <Steven1> I think
[23:50] <theresaf> carlyn i will try a reboot and try a full install on the other key i have
[23:51] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, try this maybe? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[23:51] <Steven1> craigbass1976: I think hda is Linux or a swap for it. hdb1 is Vista.
[23:51] <Steven1> NTFS
[23:51] <Jessica> network manager has exited what is the command to get it back up ?
[23:51] <amrik> the ssh gets dropped immediately after the MOTD
[23:51] <jZed> I tried to update Dapper and it got stuck in the middle, did dpkg --configure -a ... what next?
[23:51] <amrik> i see the motd, ubuntu no warranty "no mail" and then boom connection closed
[23:52] <amrik> i dont ever get a bash prompt
[23:52] <bringatowel> !who | dstrbdfrk1
[23:52] <Jessica> !nm
[23:52] <Jessica> !network manager
[23:52] <NetEcho_> bringatowel,  I've already done that like 100x
[23:52] <carlyn> nickrud: Ubuntu thankfully repartions with Vista, too
[23:52] <Steven1> craigbass1976: http://pastebin.org/46858
[23:53] <TwoD> Does anyone know why nm-applet would not show working adapters?
[23:53] <carlyn> nickrud: but I want to try the USB on another computer - get to keep the whole HD then
[23:53] <dstrbdfrk1> has anyone in here ever used evolution mail to view there hotmail account   im pretty sure tis pop
[23:54] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Did you get that?
[23:54] <JFlash> how do I install xp without removing ubuntu?
[23:54] <bastid_raZor> Blaqlight; you have to input with a keyboard. you would need a keyboard also. why not hook up a monitor and keyboard get ubuntu installed then simply connect it to a router.. have ssh installed and you are fine headless and keyboardless.
[23:54] <ab2b> hello I managed to configure a local mirror on my pc using debmirror
[23:54] <Odd-rationale> dstrbdfrk1: i don't think hotmail provides pop for a free account...
[23:54] <Steven1> JFlash: Install XP first lol
[23:54] <Jessica> how can i start network manager
[23:54] <craigbass1976> Steven1, I did.  wow, fdisk is different these days in what it prints out...
[23:54] <dstrbdfrk1> ooh ok  thanx
[23:54] <Asymmetry> One more related question: What's your favorite DVD-ripping software?
[23:54] <ab2b> now I want to be able to point other pc's to this so they can install from there
[23:55] <ab2b> how do I do this?
[23:55] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Ah...um ok.
[23:55] <Odd-rationale> dstrbdfrk1: upgrade... :P
[23:55] <jZed> ripping fav: K3b ... Grip is ok too
[23:55] <jZed> for audio
[23:55] <craigbass1976> Steven1, you say that ubuntu is on /dev/hdb2?
[23:55] <bastid_raZor> dstrbdfrk1; gmail does though.. i use evolution to view my gmail
[23:55] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Not sure let me check.
[23:55] <TwoD> dstrbdfrk1, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200408 ?
[23:56] <bringatowel> NetEcho_, check out http://blog.eirikhoem.net/index.php/2008/04/30/firefox-java-problem-with-ubuntu-804-solved/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522008
[23:56] <craigbass1976> Steven1, q gets  you out of fdisk.  type sudo mount when you're back in bash
[23:56] <carlyn> theresaf: sorry I'm also new to Ubuntu and out of ideas . no answer to my question either - bye
[23:56] <JFlash> Steven1:  but ubuntu is already installed
[23:56] <teethdood> which VM software would allow me to run a physical windows install as a virtual device?
[23:56] <craigbass1976> Steven1, and paste that output too
[23:56] <Steven1> craigbass1976: Gparted shows /dev/hdb with 4 partitions and 6.34MB of unallocated space.
[23:56] <Jessica> dosnt matter i have got it working :)
[23:56] <bringatowel> teethdood, VirtualBox or QEMU probably
[23:57] <Steven1> JFlash: Well then install XP on a different partion and then fix Grub.
[23:57] <bringatowel> oh wait hmm i dunno
[23:57] <teethdood> bringatowel: thanks, I guess you know where your towel is
[23:57] <dstrbdfrk1> twod, thanxx much
[23:57] <S4nD3r> Hi there. Uses virtualbox OSE and have USB support isnt easy to get. I tried a lot of tutorials, but I didnt get
[23:57] <bringatowel> teethdood, do you mean you already have windows installed to the hard disk?
[23:58] <fox-guy> my pc gets rebooted every time synaptic tries to install its downloads... what can i do?
[23:58] <Steven1> craigbass1976: http://pastebin.org/46859
[23:58] <NetEcho_> bringatowel, thanks I will try
[23:58] <serwrf> hi. People, I've tried Ubuntu and come to a conclusion: WINDOWS is a much better system to use than ubuntu.
[23:58] <craigbass1976> YAY  LAMP is working!
[23:58] <teethdood> bringatowel: yes. I dual boot linux and windows, would like to run the installed windows partition as a virtual device
[23:58] <S4nD3r> Hi there. Uses virtualbox OSE and have USB support isnt easy to get. I tried a lot of tutorials, but I didnt get
[23:58] <S4nD3r> sorry
[23:58] <serwrf> The reason is that you cant install software with Ubuntu
[23:58] <serwrf> With Windows you download and the software installs itself
[23:58] <amrik> how do i redirect sdterr to console?
[23:59] <serwrf> With Ubuntu, it never installs
[23:59] <Steven1> serwrf: What are you talking about? So does Ubuntu.
[23:59] <beastax> hey
[23:59] <neyugn> does anyone know how to fix this which is desktop icons disappear? like all my desktop icons is gone but i can see them in the file browser
[23:59] <beastax> is there an easy, gui way of configuring fstab?
[23:59] <bringatowel> serwrf, yes you can, go to Applications -> Add /Remove for starters
[23:59] <serwrf> I've downloaded form yahoo and other sites
[23:59] <Steven1> serwrf: Ubuntu is easy and installs itself as well.
[23:59] <serwrf> and it has NEVER installed
[23:59] <teethdood> serwrf: with windows you don't even have to download the software. It downloads and installs for you
[23:59] <teethdood> without even you knowing/wanting
[23:59] <bringatowel> teethdood, im not sure if those will let you do that exactly, but they might
[23:59]  * Dream falls asleep trying to edit disks\boot\grub\menu.lst :/
[23:59] <serwrf> I've used the included application install stuff in Ubuntu


[20:46] <xernus> Hi! Using the liveserver to build an image creates a quite large image with a lot of packages in it even with no software installs defined in user-data. I cannot find any docs on how to build a very minimal install - kind of like whats inside of the cloudimage. Does anyone have any pointers on how to do that, or do I simply need a post-install-script that strips away packages?
[20:51] <frickler> xernus: maybe https://docs.openstack.org/diskimage-builder/latest/ is something for you
[20:57] <xernus> frickler: I am using packer and I was hoping there'd be a way to do it with the liveimage, but you might be right that it is either stripping packages or building the liveimage itself from scratch
[20:59] <sarnold> depending upon what you're building running debootstrap yourself might make sense; or perhaps seeding images into maas or fai or similar
[23:54] <SpaceBass> Hey yall, I have a 20.04 box that is bound to an AD domain and unlike all my other machines it frequently just stops authenticating
[23:54] <SpaceBass> Sometimes I have to reboot it as often as 3-4 times to get it to work
[23:54] <SpaceBass> I've tailed all the SSSD logs and can't find any errors
[23:56] <sarnold> check the AD logs?
[23:58] <SpaceBass> Good call


[00:38] <kees> jjohansen, arjan: I will now get out of this communication loop.  ;)
[00:39] <arjan> hehe thanks
[00:39] <jjohansen> arjan: I have kicked off a debug kernel build for you, I'll ping you when its done
[00:39] <arjan> all I need is the drivers/acpi/processor-idle.o file
[00:40] <arjan> http://www.kerneloops.org/oneweek31.php
[00:40] <arjan> that is currently mostly ubuntu reports (until Fedora 12 ships I suspect.. then it'll be amix)
[00:40] <arjan> looking at the nr 2 issue
[00:41] <arjan> and failing to make sense out of it without knowing exactly which instruction we're executing
[00:41] <arjan> -> hence the request for vmlinux or drivers/acpi/processor-idle.o
[00:45] <jjohansen> arjan: okay, I just build that then, it will be quicker
[00:57] <jjohansen> arjan: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~jj/processor_idle.o
[00:58]  * arjan grabs
[00:58] <arjan> thanks a lot!
[00:59] <arjan> ooh fun
[00:59] <arjan> this is in a paravirt hook
[01:00] <arjan> anyway that's good food-for-thought
[01:00] <arjan> thanks again
[01:00]  * arjan will ponder more after dinner ;)
[01:19] <eswenson> Is there an irc channel where I can ask a question about the ubuntu/debian kernel build environment?
[01:42] <rtg> eswenson, this is the right channel, but most folks are about gone. can you post an email to the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>list?
[01:44] <eswenson> rtg: I could, but I'm not on the kernel team.  I'm just a developer who has a need to update/add modules to a local copy of the kernel.  Can I still send email to canonical-kernel-team list?
[01:44] <rtg> eswenson, yep, I'll moderate it later tonight.
[01:45] <eswenson> rtg: And my question regards the jaunty kernel, not the karmic kernel.  Ok, I'll post the question to the list.  THanks.
[06:42] <indus_> hello
[09:19] <Appiah> On launchpad bugs , should the team be the ones selecting confirmed and priotrity?
[09:19] <Appiah> or the team?
[09:19] <Appiah> or the user* i mean
[10:57] <JanC> Appiah: confirmed is if other people can reproduce the same bug, so it can be another user
[10:57] <JanC> priority is for the developers (or team managers or such)
[10:58] <JanC> never confirm your own bugs though ;)
[11:07] <apw> Appiah, yeah what JanC said ... the priority is covered by our 'policy' so data loss is critical, crashes are high or medium etc
[11:07] <apw> the status implies things about the bug, co
[11:08] <apw> confirmed for more than one user, trigaged for 'having all the data we need' etc
[11:09] <hyperair> does anyone know if there's a difference between the sreadahead and the ureadahead kernel patches?
[11:10] <hyperair> and how come the said patches aren't entering mainline?
[11:20] <apw> hyperair, yes the patches differ.  and as it says in the leader to those patches, we are expecting a more sane common and standard way to trace all syscalls via ftrace which would superceed most of the patch
[11:21] <hyperair> @_@
[11:21] <hyperair> i see
[11:22] <hyperair> you really meant header and not leader, right?
[11:22] <apw> those words mean the same thing to me for patches ... :) ... the description of the patch
[11:23] <hyperair> are you sure "leader" can be used in this context?
[11:23] <hyperair> "leader" applies to a person who leads, right?
[11:23] <apw>     It's not upstream because it will need to be rebased onto the syscall
[11:23] <apw>     trace events whenever that gets merged, and is a stop-gap.
[11:23] <apw> a leader is something or someone who leadsd
[11:23] <apw> the header arrives in your eyes first, so i can be called a leader
[11:23] <apw> english is stupid
[11:24] <apw> you get a similar confusion with rider, a rider can be someone who rides or it can be something which is carried with and is a bout something, like a limitation
[11:25] <hyperair> @_@
[11:25] <hyperair> alright, point taken
[11:25] <apw> hyperair, apparently we have 12 meanings for leader
[11:25]  * hyperair groans
[11:25] <apw> 1. 	a person or thing that leads.
[11:25] <apw> is the one i was using it in
[11:25] <hyperair> ah
[11:26] <apw> you don't need to remind me that english is massivly ambigious even to native speakers and a nightmare for the rest of the world :/
[11:26] <hyperair> so anyway, what does ureadahead require that the sreadahead patch doesn't provide?
[11:26]  * hyperair considers himself to be a native speaker of english
[11:26] <apw> it needs to know which binaries you are running
[11:27] <hyperair> ah i see
[11:28] <hyperair> well then off i go to hack the ureadahead patch to apply ontop of sreadahead's
[11:29] <apw> hyperair, why so?
[11:29] <hyperair> apw: i compile and run the zen kernels. they have the sreadahead patch applied.
[11:29] <hyperair> but not the ureadahead one
[11:30] <hyperair> maybe i'll go suggest to them
[11:30] <apw> well we are expecting to switch out sreadahead for ureadahead at the same time that the kernel updates
[11:30] <apw> and i assume xen is a patch on top of our main branch
[11:30] <apw> so they should switch when they rebase
[11:31] <hyperair> zen, not xen.
[11:31] <apw> ... oh yeah ... no idea :)
[11:31] <hyperair> heh
[11:31] <hyperair> and no, zen isn't a patch..
[11:31] <apw> what the heck is zen
[11:31] <hyperair> it's a tree
[11:31] <hyperair> http://www.zen-kernel.org/
[11:31] <hyperair> it's the mainline with all kinds of unapproved extras applied
[11:32] <hyperair> stuff like phc, bfs, tuxonice
[11:32] <hyperair> and they frequently pull from mainline
[11:32] <apw> gotcha
[11:33] <apw> so you'd want them to have 'both' so you can use that kerenl with ubuntu userspace i assume
[11:33] <hyperair> but of course
[11:33] <apw> sounds like fun for them :)
[11:33] <hyperair> heh
[11:33] <hyperair> well the ureadahead patch isn't much on top of the sreadahead patch, is it?
[11:33] <hyperair> i only had one conflict
[11:34] <hyperair> and that conflict was from stuff already added by sreadahead
[11:34] <apw> i think it produces more data for the existing sreadahead hook iirc
[11:34] <hyperair> yeah it does
[11:34] <apw> dunno how sreadahead would take that change
[11:34] <hyperair> isn't it a different ftrace?
[11:34] <apw> to be honest sreadahead has major issues, like its not aware of hdd ... so it makes things worse there
[11:35] <hyperair> agreed
[11:35] <hyperair> my boot up time is 2m 30s
[11:35] <hyperair> this is ridiculous
[11:35] <hyperair> readahead-list was way better
[11:35] <hyperair> why did we get rid of that?
[11:35] <apw> yeah ... it was ... and ureadahead is fixing that and doing better
[11:36] <apw> was where the majority were going, and probabally was wrong
[11:36] <hyperair> yeah, at least we don't need readahead-list wasting time setting up inotify hooks on every single file on the filesystem >_>
[11:36] <hyperair> there was quite some noise made re readahead-list's removal, but somebody said that sreadahead's packfile was equivalent if not better <_<
[11:37] <hyperair> and conveniently stifled out all the noise by invalidating said bug
[11:37] <hyperair> very elegant.
[11:40] <apw> heh ... sometimes you need to try things, find its wrong, and fix it
[11:40] <apw> i think thats what happened here
[11:42] <hyperair> heh i suppose =\
[11:44] <hyperair> aw damnit it won't compile
[12:14] <Appiah> JanC and apw thanks for the explaination
[12:18]  * hyperair reverted every sreadahead commit on the list and then applied the ureadahead patch
[14:31] <michLinuxGuy> Hi!
[14:31] <apw> s'up
[14:32] <michLinuxGuy> Question: How do I install an older pre-built kernel on Karmic.  (Like the kernel used in Jaunty) ???
[14:32] <michLinuxGuy> I am trying to troubleshoot a failing wireless adapter
[14:32] <apw> older kernels are available in the launchpad librarian, i blieve all of them are there
[14:33] <michLinuxGuy> Do I get to that from synaptic?  Or can you give me a URL?
[14:33] <apw> you can get to the current ones at least here: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux
[14:34] <michLinuxGuy> Thanks!
[14:34] <apw> this link looks to show you _all_ kernels ever: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+publishinghistory
[14:36] <michLinuxGuy> I have a Linksys USB wireless adapter that won't connect now that I installed Karmic.  It worked fine with Jaunty.  I'm going to try the Jaunty kernel with my karmic installation.  Does that sound like a good approach to diagnosing this?
[14:36] <apw> michLinuxGuy, yep ... what device is it inside?
[14:37] <michLinuxGuy> ID 13b1:000d Linksys WUSB54G Wireless Adapter
[14:38] <michLinuxGuy> I tried the adapter on another machine with karmic and it did work, but dropped and reconnected once.
[14:38] <apw> odd
[14:39] <michLinuxGuy> Yeah.  This was with a clean install.  I could try reinstalling, but I think I will try the older kernel first.
[14:40] <michLinuxGuy> The problem machine is an older HP laptop: ze4210
[14:44] <michLinuxGuy> apw: Are the links you showed me source only?  Is it possible to get a prebuilt .deb file with the kernel and modules?
[14:46] <apw> michLinuxGuy, binary packages appear to be there if you click trhough the build links for an architecture
[14:53] <michLinuxGuy> I guess I am not as smart as I thought I was.  I can't quite find what I need to install an older kernel from binary.  :(
[14:57] <michLinuxGuy> To install a binary kernel, do I just need an image .deb and a .deb containing the kernel modules?
[15:06] <apw> michLinuxGuy, the linux-image contains the whole kernel, if you have any binary drievers you also nead the linux-headers, and the generic headers the _all package which is only built on i386
[15:10] <michLinuxGuy> apw: Thanks for all your help.
[15:19] <michLinuxGuy> apw: I installed kernel linux-image-2.6.28-16-generic_2.6.28-16.55_i386.deb and my linksys USB wireless adapter started working again.  Do you have advice on what I should do with this information?
[15:21] <apw> file a bug using ubuntu-bug when you are booted on the karmic broken kernel.  include a dmesg from the working kernel
[15:21] <apw> and clearly mark that dmesg, and clearly indicate the version you found it does work
[15:22] <michLinuxGuy> apw: Thanks, I'll do that.  One note: the symptom is it finds the access pt, but never connects and times out.  I didn't see anything informative in the dmesg output about it.
[15:24] <apw> but having both tells us if the same driver picked up the device and the like
[15:24] <michLinuxGuy> apw: Okay - will do.  Thanks!
[16:51] <michLinuxGuy> apw: I submitted a bug for the problem [Bug 472953].  Thanks again for your help with this.
[16:51] <ubot3> Malone bug 472953 in ubuntu "Linksys WUSB54G won't connect to wireless network with karmic kernel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/472953
[18:59] <tormod> is the Mainline Kernel PPA source web-browseable somewhere like with cgit?
[21:59] <cwillu> tormod, it's just the vanilla kernel, so kernel.org
[22:03] <tormod> cwillu, thanks, right, I guess that's the whole point of the PPA :) but there is some Ubuntu building stuff like a debian dir?
[22:05] <cwillu> can't speak to that, sorry :p
[22:05] <tormod> btw there is 2.6.32-rc6 now
[22:07] <tormod> is the daily ppa build exactly like the upstream "snapshot" or is it a pull from linus tree at some time of day?
[22:08] <cwillu> I would guess that it's a package for each tagged upstream release
[22:09] <tormod> yes, but plus the daily builds
[22:09] <cwillu> sorry, missed that
[22:09]  * cwillu clams up
[22:09] <tormod> thanks for answering
[23:45] <_maks> hey
[23:45] <_maks> the gitweb installation on kernel.u.c seems quite old
[23:45] <_maks> what's the refspec to clone http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-lucid.git;a=summary
[23:47] <_maks> git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-lucid.git # works
[23:47] <_maks> would be cool to have that on gitweb ;)