[03:00] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> new kernel exploits for trusty and wily guys, spread the word today
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> !usn
[04:11] <nicomachus> I had a kernel upgrade a few hours ago.
[04:11] <nicomachus> on wily.
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> nice1
[04:11] <nicomachus> yep, -34. all patched I suppose.
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> : )
[05:39] <bluefive> "Had these boxes in our office, a lot of them started tailing at the 2 year mark."
[05:39] <bluefive> What's tailing mean?
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> dax: do we have a factoid for keeping system up to date?
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> morning cfhowlett :p
[07:42] <cfhowlett> hidehoo lotuspsychje
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> ohayo gozaimashita :p
[07:42] <cfhowlett> domo arigato!
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: you design icons too mate?
[07:42] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, I've only played with icons
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-needs-your-help-to-make-gnome-software-look-beautiful-in-ubuntu-16-04-501741.shtml
[07:43] <cfhowlett> not seriously designed
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> they are looking for you :p
[07:43] <cfhowlett> interesting.  I would hope that ubuntu would adopt Fedora's approach.
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: hows fedora's approach?
[07:44] <cfhowlett> Fedora sources all their internal designs to the internal art team which also produces the Fedora Design Spin i.e. multimedia focused OS
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> cool
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> but ubuntu community involves alot of users to help already right?
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> or not enough?
[07:46] <cfhowlett> true, but I we likely have more design focused folks in Ubuntu Studio than plain vanilla ubuntu.  Plus it would give the US team some much needed experience supporting design on other ubuntu OS
[07:46] <cfhowlett> IMHO
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> right
[08:09] <cmvosfutnis> how are the ubuntu iso images created when doing a release? Is it there a link with the full process or a build script of the sort?
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon
[12:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> !16.10
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: we need a Y codename.. :p
[13:04] <cfhowlett> let me think ..
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[21:54] <thom__> Hi !
[21:54] <daftykins> lo
[21:55] <thom__> Is there an esay way to remove the "Mise en veille" item from the top right menu ?
[21:55] <pauljw> hi


[12:18] <jarnos> I suggest Bug #1621226 should be SRUed.
[12:18] <ubot5`> bug 1621226 in grep (Ubuntu) "grep does not output null when -o is used" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1621226
[12:21] <rbasak> jarnos: that's reasonable, but it's also a change in behaviour that users may be relying on, as grep tends to be used quite a bit in scripts.
[12:21] <rbasak> So I'm not sure.
[12:22] <rbasak> I added a task in the bug for you. Can discuss in there.
[12:28] <jarnos> rbasak, well, that bug has not got any visible attention from others, so I don't know who I am discussing it with.
[12:31] <jarnos> rbasak, no-one should rely on behavior that makes output ambiguous. The bug is fixed in 16.04 anyway.
[12:43] <rbasak> jarnos: I don't think it matters where users "should" rely on behaviour or not. For a stable release, what matters is if they *are*, and if an SRU will break them.
[12:44] <jarnos> rbasak, their scripts are broken anyway.
[12:45] <rbasak> jarnos: it doesn't matter. If their scripts happen to work now, and we change behaviour in an SRU such that they break, then that needs to be considered.
[12:45] <rbasak> jarnos: unless you can demonstrate that it isn't possible to write a script that would change behaviour after your proposed update?
[12:45] <rbasak> jarnos: you'd be discussing the issue with me in the bug, but also leaving a record of the discussion so that if another member of the SRU team considers the bug, that person can see the previous discussion.
[12:47] <rbasak> jarnos: presumably you need the fix for some reason. But there are other ways to find a workaround that don't involve changing behaviour but might be useful to affected users. For example, a flag in the environment. These should be discussed, but I feel you first need to understand my point about not breaking users despite their scripts "being broken".
[12:48] <rbasak> You can't dismiss users like that.
[12:48] <rbasak> Just because they're wrong doesn't mean we can break them in a stable release.
[12:55] <jarnos> rbasak, how would a flag in environment help?
[13:04] <jarnos> rbasak, fixing the bug would make it possible for them to fix their scripts.
[13:04] <rbasak> jarnos: you could land an SRU that doesn't change behaviour, except when you want it to do so.
[13:05] <rbasak> jarnos: 16.04 makes it possible for them to fix their scripts.
[13:05] <rbasak> jarnos: and an environment flag would also do this for 14.04, but without breaking users surprisingly.
[13:06] <jarnos> rbasak, not, if you want to make a script that works in both.
[13:07] <rbasak> jarnos: if you want a script that works in both, SRU my environment flag proposal, then set the environment in your script. You'll then get consistent behaviour in both. I'm not saying it has to be this way, but it is an option that minimises regression risk to existing users.
[13:09] <jarnos> rbasak,  What is your environment flag proposal?
[13:10] <rbasak> jarnos: SRU the fix to 14.04, but adjust it so that it maintains previous broken behaviour unless the environment variable FIX_LP_1621226 is set.


[01:11] <douglas> night
[01:16] <sivang> hey douglas
[01:16] <douglas> hi man !
[01:17] <douglas> nice to see you !
[11:26] <sivang> hornbeck: wow
[11:26] <sivang> hornbeck: hello hello :)
[11:27] <hornbeck> hey is the subversion server working for you?
[11:27] <sivang> the one at the DC?
[11:27] <hornbeck> mine
[11:30] <hornbeck> nevermind it is ok
[11:39] <sivang> ok, night


[00:29] <cimbakahn> Hello!
[00:30] <wxl> what's up cimbakahn
[00:31] <cimbakahn> Not much.
[00:32] <cimbakahn> I have kernel 3.16.0-45-generic, and i want kernel 3.19.  Is there a way i can get it safely?
[00:33] <wxl> which lubuntu you on cimbakahn ?
[00:34] <cimbakahn> The terminal reads 14.04.1, but the system profiler and benchmark reads 14.04.3.
[00:34] <wxl> !info linux-generic trusty-backports
[00:34] <wxl> !info linux-generic trusty-updates
[00:34] <wxl> oopsie
[00:35] <teward> !info linux-generic-lts-vivid
[00:35] <wxl> !info linux-generic trusty-proposed
[00:35] <wxl> !info linux-generic trusty
[00:35] <teward> can i burn the thing
[00:35]  * teward pulls his computer's data
[00:35] <wxl> hehehe
[00:35] <wxl> so suffice it to say there' no regular upgrade available
[00:35] <wxl> are you on amd64 or i386 cimbakahn ?
[00:36] <cimbakahn> 64bit computer and os.
[00:36] <teward> !info linux-generic-lts-vivid trusty
[00:36]  * teward coughs and spits this out her
[00:36] <wxl> oh well there ya go
[00:36] <wxl> so installing linux-generic-lts-vivid should get you what you want
[00:36] <teward> fair warning:
[00:36] <teward> NO GUARANTEES if it works with Lubuntu flawlessly
[00:37] <teward> it's in the repos, yes, but it's the 'backport the later version kernels to the LTS release' from Ubuntu
[00:37] <wxl> oooh you can even get the wily kernel
[00:37] <teward> and yes, i said Ubuntu, not Lubuntu, there may be minor breakages and things, as I don't test LXDE/Lubuntu under those :)
[00:37] <wxl> !info linux-generic-lts-wily trusty
[00:37] <teward> wxl: welcome to the world of HWE stack updates
[00:37] <wxl> right right
[00:37] <wxl> MOST likely, there's no issues, though
[00:38] <teward> ^ that
[00:38] <wxl> got it cimbakahn ?
[00:38] <cimbakahn> If i go into Software & Updates and click on UPDATES tab and then click on FOR ANY NEW VERSION, would i get it then?
[00:38] <wxl> teward: you should modify https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Upgrade to reflect this :)
[00:38] <teward> cimbakahn: no?
[00:38] <teward> cimbakahn: `sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid`
[00:38] <teward> in the command line
[00:38] <teward> or, search for linux-generic-lts-vivid in the package manager
[00:39] <teward> IDK what Lubuntu uses for the package manager nowadays
[00:39] <teward> wxl: ^ shed light
[00:39] <teward> minus the backticks if you use the command I said to use in the command line, though
[00:39] <wxl> well i think lubuntu software center is still holding on for dear life
[00:39] <teward> wxl: BTW, I can't update that page
[00:40] <teward> wxl: i think the Upgrade page there is for generic data
[00:40] <cimbakahn> I want 3.19 because i have had good luck with it.
[00:40] <wxl> yeah it is immutable fooey
[00:40] <teward> wxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support
[00:40] <teward> cimbakahn: then install the 'linux-generic-lts-vivid' package.
[00:41] <cimbakahn> Is this 3.19 ----> linux-generic-lts-vivid
[00:41] <teward> yes
[00:41] <teward> cimbakahn: it will install the correct kernel images
[00:41] <teward> for 3.19.*
[00:41] <wxl> !info linux-generic-lts-vivid trusty | cimbakahn
[00:41] <teward> which is what you're looking for I believe
[00:41] <teward> yep
[00:44] <teward> cimbakahn: you'll have to reboot afterwards, of course, if you want to boot to the kernel; you can't switch while running unfortunately
[00:45] <cimbakahn> And is there any way to know for sure what version i have?  The terminal reads 14.04.1, but the system profiler and benchmark reads 14.04.3.  I do hope i have 14.04.3 because i have had good luck with that as well.
[00:45] <teward> cimbakahn: uname -a
[00:45] <teward> erm
[00:45] <teward> uname -r
[00:46] <teward> cimbakahn: FWIW, within the Ubuntu naming scheme, 14.04.1 is indistinguishable from 14.04.3 except for the kernel
[00:46] <teward> the only difference is the kernel; check 'uname -r' to get your current kernel version
[00:47] <teward> but otherwise, 14.04 = 14.04.1 = 14.04.2 = 14.04.3 = trusty
[00:47] <teward> for the most part
[00:47] <teward> it's all still Ubuntu Trusty 14.04.*
[00:48] <cimbakahn> uname -r only shows the kernel.  uname -a reads 14.04.1.  system profiler and benchmark reads 14.04.3.
[00:48] <teward> cimbakahn: as i said, .1, .2, .3 is irrelevant
[00:48] <teward> if you are on Trusty, and you have all the updates installed for everything else, you're on .3
[00:49] <teward> the ONLY difference is what kernel comes with the installer image
[00:49] <teward> and what the default kernel is from that installation
[00:49] <cimbakahn> I have done all the updates, upgrades, and dist-upgrades i can do.
[00:49] <teward> cimbakahn: what matters, actually, is the kernel you're on, NOT what point release your system says you're on
[00:50] <teward> cimbakahn: then you're on 14.04.3, minus the kernel which you have the option to install yourself (by using linux-generic-lts-wily, which gets you the 4.2.x kernels)
[00:50] <teward> there's ***zero*** way to distinguish a system that was installed with 14.04 original image, or 14.04.3's image, EXCEPT for the kernel that's installed by default on that system, AIUI
[00:52] <cimbakahn> I think i will just do sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid    Is that all i have to install to get 3.19 ?
[00:52] <wxl> and reboot to use it cimbakahn
[00:53] <cimbakahn> Yes.  I know about the reboot part.  And that is it?  That is all i have to do?
[00:53] <wxl> yep
[00:53] <cimbakahn> Thank you so very much!    Yippee!
[01:06] <teward> cimbakahn: enjoy!
[01:07] <teward> cimbakahn: just... don't go off LTS releases
[01:07] <cimbakahn> Thank you!  Thank you!
[01:07] <teward> only LTSes get this niceness of backported kernels
[01:07] <cimbakahn> Ok.
[01:07] <teward> (and by LTSes I mean the Ubuntu versioning, not the Lubuntu)
[01:07] <teward> (sorry, wxl and Lubuntu devs :P)
[01:07] <cimbakahn> I see.
[01:08]  * teward yawns
[01:08] <teward> but yeah, enjoy the updated kernel :)
[01:08] <cimbakahn> HAHAHAHA!
[01:10] <cimbakahn> I had a black screen on guvcview before i installed this newer kernel, now it works fine.  I guess kernel 3.16 doesn't like guvcview.  And 3.19 does.
[01:10] <teward> cimbakahn: or, it had some update since 3.16 that broke it
[01:10] <teward> but eh
[01:10] <wxl> cimbakahn: must be your particular camera. worked for me.
[01:11] <teward> wxl: all hail the updated HWE stacks
[01:11] <teward> :P
[01:11] <teward> (this is why I said stick to Ubuntu-dictated LTSes if you want the backported kernels xD)
[01:12] <cimbakahn> This is nothing new to me because i have read in several areas where guvcview doesn't work with 3.16.
[01:12] <cimbakahn> Ok.
[01:13] <cimbakahn> It's nothing like getting 2 of your issues fixed with just 1 simple install.  I am very happy now.
[02:54] <Esidisi> Hello.
[02:55] <Esidisi> I'm having a list of issues with my Lubuntu installation on my laptop, that I would like to possibly resolve.
[02:56] <Esidisi> http://pastebin.com/nDysgvN6 Here is the list
[02:56] <Esidisi> I originally had Windows on this
[03:01] <Esidisi> If anyone is here, notification of your presence would be helpful
[03:01] <Esidisi> :)
[03:02] <Esidisi>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Esidisi ljubaazutqll
[03:02] <Esidisi> oops
[03:02] <Esidisi> o.o
[03:03] <Esidisi> No one saw that :D
[03:04] <ianorlin> Esidisi: how are you trying to contorl brightness
[03:04] <Esidisi> Through the Brightness option in the Menu
[03:04] <ianorlin> on the power manager ?
[03:04] <Esidisi> Start->Preferences->Brightness
[03:11] <Esidisi> ianorlin: You still here?
[03:12] <ianorlin> hmm I don't have a brightness in prefrences
[03:12] <Esidisi> I do
[03:12] <Esidisi> Would you like a screenshot?
[03:13] <ianorlin> if you run xbacklight -set 50 in a terminal does it change brightness?
[03:13] <Esidisi> Nothing happens
[03:14] <ianorlin> strange
[03:21] <Esidisi> ianornlin: Any idea as to why? I read something about a Intel backlight driver is it something related to that?
[03:25] <ianorlin> Esidisi: I also would in the power manager applet make sure presentation mode is not checked
[03:29] <Esidisi> I can't seem to find that
[03:30] <Esidisi> I can't seem to find the Power Manager applet, there is a Battery Monitor
[03:30] <Esidisi> But no PM
[03:32] <ianorlin> menu it is actually from xfce but run xfce4-power-manager-settings
[03:32] <ianorlin> and click show applet
[03:33] <Esidisi> it says it isn't installed
[03:35] <Esidisi> I installed it
[03:35] <Esidisi> And
[03:35] <Esidisi> It is giving me an error message that it isn't responding
[03:36] <Esidisi> http://pastebin.com/4tEs0GBw
[03:36] <Esidisi> Error Message
[03:46] <Esidisi> ianornlin: any luck?
[07:55] <damascene> hello, how do I check keyboard settings on 16.04 lubuntu?
[07:55] <damascene> I'm on live cd and I can not type anything from keyboard
[08:11] <damascene> I'm stuck on Lubuntu in virtualbox without keyboard input on livecd
[13:12] <troyes> hello
[13:13] <troyes> i need your help to fix my wifi i have broadcom 4318
[13:14] <troyes> i got this message when i type rfkill list hp-wifi: Wireless LAN 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: yes
[13:56] <Jahm> Guys, how do I autostart `xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults` for XTerm? I'm using OpenBox and LXDE by the way.
[15:15] <troyes> hi
[15:15] <troyes> need help for my wifi
[15:15] <troyes> it said enp6s6    no wireless extensions.
[15:16] <troyes> hp-wifi: Wireless LAN 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no
[15:17] <troyes> i can't see if  it's on or off
[15:24] <aedigital> nm-applet show connections ?
[15:28] <troyes> sorry
[15:29] <troyes> do you want me to use this command
[15:29] <aedigital> nm-applet usually showed in taskbar (panel)
[15:31] <troyes> i have only wired connection
[15:32] <troyes> when i take off the cable i can't see wifi connection
[15:33] <aedigital> maybe  module for yours wifi ethernet dont has loaded
[15:33] <aedigital> or  networkManager service is off
[15:33] <troyes> can you help me with that plz
[15:34] <aedigital> sorry, i m not expert for this
[15:34] <troyes> ah i see
[15:34] <aedigital> :\
[18:39] <lubuntu> anybody know a thing or two about using steam on lubuntu?
[18:40] <wxl> a bit, lubotu1
[18:40] <wxl> um
[18:41] <wxl> who had the steam question? i ignore nick changes, etc. so :)
[18:45] <jesuslover> sorry
[18:45] <jesuslover> here is the error i get
[18:45] <jesuslover> my steam folder has no root folder
[18:45] <jesuslover> only a logs folder
[18:45] <jesuslover> installed from software center
[18:45] <jesuslover> installs fine
[18:45] <jesuslover> http://s21.postimg.org/lad3u8wg6/2016_01_08_183724_1600x900_scrot.jpg
[18:46] <jesuslover> i am using steam on a live instance of lubuntu on usb
[18:46] <jesuslover> created the usb installation with unet bootin and 0 "extra space" on the parameters if that makes a difference
[18:46] <jesuslover> but there is free space on the usb
[18:47] <jesuslover> this error occurs after steam attempts to update itself
[18:49] <wxl> there's free space in the filesystem?
[18:50] <jesuslover> i'm sorry
[18:50] <jesuslover> how would i check?
[18:50] <wxl> df
[18:51] <jesuslover> here are my disks
[18:51] <jesuslover> http://s1.postimg.org/f2njzeese/2016_01_08_185041_1600x900_scrot.jpg
[18:52] <wxl> and that usb is mounted at /cdrom
[18:52] <wxl> which of course is not /
[18:52] <wxl> i'm not so much asking if there's free space on your disks
[18:52] <wxl> i'm asking if there's free space on your file system
[18:53] <wxl> which is why i suggested df
[18:53] <jesuslover> ah, i'm sorry
[18:53] <jesuslover> what is "df"
[18:53] <wxl> it's a command line tool
[18:53] <wxl> if you want to be really cool you can do this in irssi:
[18:53] <jesuslover> oh okay
[18:53] <jesuslover> filesystem
[18:54] <jesuslover> here is what it says
[18:54] <wxl>  /exec -out sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit && df | pastebinit
[18:54] <jesuslover> http://s1.postimg.org/f2njzeese/2016_01_08_185041_1600x900_scrot.jpg
[18:54] <jesuslover> lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ df
[18:54] <jesuslover> Filesystem     1K-blocks   Used Available Use% Mounted on
[18:54] <jesuslover> udev             1001300      0   1001300   0% /dev
[18:54] <jesuslover> tmpfs             202752   5216    197536   3% /run
[18:54] <jesuslover> /dev/sdb1        7897060 794464   7102596  11% /cdrom
[18:54] <jesuslover> /dev/loop0<PHONE_NUMBER>44         0 100% /rofs
[18:56] <jesuslover> did that send
[18:56] <jesuslover> to the channel?
[18:56] <jesuslover> i tried updating again and it says "error"
[18:56] <jesuslover> "couldn't set up the Steam Runtime.  Are you running low on disk space?  Continuing..."
[18:56] <jesuslover> and will post
[18:57] <jesuslover> df
[18:57] <jesuslover> http://s14.postimg.org/6s1g0r7ls/2016_01_08_185404_1600x900_scrot.jpg
[18:59] <jesuslover> i have played games on this computer from the software center, however
[18:59] <wxl> sorry disappeared there
[18:59] <jesuslover> did that shite go through?
[18:59] <jesuslover> not sure
[19:00] <wxl> hey now, is that how jesus would talk? :)
[19:00] <jesuslover> i think it is okay to say "shite"
[19:00] <jesuslover> not sure
[19:00] <wxl> yes, but what does jesus think? XD
[19:00] <jesuslover> idk
[19:00] <wxl> sorry, i'm being a bit silly but let's keep the language to an unquestionably unoffensive level, please
[19:00] <wxl> so it looks like you have space on your file system
[19:00] <jesuslover> okay
[19:00] <jesuslover> no problemo
[19:01] <wxl> the thing i'm concerned about is that original message about an .so file missing
[19:01] <wxl> i bet that's the issue
[19:01] <jesuslover> yeah not sure if this matters, but in "lubuntu" i have a steam folder
[19:01] <wxl> i would recommend installing from steam directly, personally
[19:01] <jesuslover> but in "steam" there is only a logs folder
[19:02] <jesuslover> logs has "bootstrap_log.lxt"
[19:02] <jesuslover> okay, i am actually going to try that
[19:02] <wxl> if it still doesn't work, then there must be a deeper issue
[19:02] <jesuslover> why is it that you recommend that?
[19:02] <wxl> well, among other reasons, i betcha the version is behind
[19:02] <jesuslover> is it normally better to install software from the website rather than from the software center or command line?
[19:02] <wxl> !info steam wily
[19:02] <wxl> version 1.0 and valve is at 1.5
[19:03] <wxl> case in point
[19:03] <wxl> only available from i386 is a bit strange too
[19:03] <wxl> generally, i recommend to install from the ubuntu repos
[19:03] <wxl> however, there are some things you just can't get
[19:03] <jesuslover> okay
[19:03] <wxl> like i just compiled a kernel module for exfat support
[19:03] <jesuslover> sorry to trouble you if you are not busy or have the time could you recommend a good guide from installing from ubuntu rpos/
[19:03] <jesuslover> ubuntu repos?*
[19:03] <wxl> because the exfat-fuse option available in the repos kind of stinks
[19:03] <wxl> hm well i think the wiki is best
[19:04] <jesuslover> ah, awesome
[19:04] <jesuslover> will use the wiki
[19:04] <wxl> !software | jesuslover
[19:04] <wxl> personally i prefer using apt-get on the command line, but i'll leave that choice up to you
[19:04] <jesuslover> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[19:04] <jesuslover> ya?
[19:04] <jesuslover> ah, ty
[19:04] <wxl> http://store.steampowered.com/about/
[19:04] <jesuslover> i need to read that i haven't used computers in a bit
[19:05] <wxl> seems to me that /Valve page has some useful info
[19:06] <wxl> Unable to start Steam
[19:06] <wxl> 1. ia32-libs is NOT required for x86_64.
[19:06] <wxl> 2. Locale was not exported. Try to run steam by: LC_ALL=C steam
[19:06] <wxl> that 2nd one in particular
[19:06] <wxl> also the suggestion about driver support is worthwhile to note
[19:06] <wxl> i've never had to bother with that personally but maybe i just got lucky
[19:06] <jesuslover> i have i386
[19:07] <jesuslover> oh cool
[19:07] <jesuslover> so here is what i got with that command
[19:09] <jesuslover> ah
[19:09] <jesuslover> my prt scrn stopped working
[19:09] <jesuslover> but it gives me the same error message but instantly without updating this time
[19:10] <wxl> you can just use scrot on the command line
[19:10] <jesuslover> "Couldn't set up the Steam Runtime.  Are you running low on desk space?  Continuing..."
[19:10] <jesuslover> http://hastebin.com/axonesiyah.vbs
[19:11] <wxl> try steam --reset and then restart your computer
[19:11] <wxl> aw i love hastebin
[19:12] <wxl> which drive do you have steam on?
[19:12] <wxl> or rather which location on the file system
[19:13] <jesuslover> on
[19:13] <jesuslover> 8.1 GB Drive PNY USB2.0 FD
[19:13] <jesuslover> i will not be able to reboot without wiping all data
[19:13] <jesuslover> on a live OS
[19:13] <jesuslover> but going to go through those guides and try to hammer it out
[19:14] <jesuslover> can you do that with any program on linux?
[19:14] <jesuslover> program --reset
[19:14] <jesuslover> ?
[19:14] <jesuslover> the drive is /dev/sdb
[19:15] <jesuslover> W95 FAT32
[19:15] <jesuslover> contents FAT, mounted at /cdrom
[19:17] <jesuslover> dang
[19:17] <jesuslover> just failed to download another packiage
[19:17] <jesuslover> package*
[19:17] <jesuslover> from software center
[19:17] <jesuslover> was an internet proglem
[19:17] <jesuslover> problem*
[19:17] <jesuslover> going to have to see what's going on
[19:17] <jesuslover> i'm always having issues when i have a LIVE OS
[19:18] <jesuslover> did a steam reset it says "Fatal Error: Steam needs 250MB of free disk space to update."
[19:19] <jesuslover> going to log off and hammer it out in an hour or so<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if you have anymore advice, thanks, the Lord be with you guys will be praying for y'all and the open source projects
[19:25] <jesuslover> http://pasted.co/b829e7cf
[20:27] <jesuslover> hey resolved my issue with steam and lubuntu, worked fine on a different computer with lubuntu installed on teh HD
[20:27] <jesuslover> rather than the live OS
[20:28] <jesuslover> making a new live OS with 5gb to preserve files across reboots
[20:28] <jesuslover> will let you guys know how it goes
[20:28] <jesuslover> the Lord be with you
[22:40] <jesuslover> does anybody know offhand what the latest version of lubuntu is?
[22:40] <jesuslover> sry, is it 15.10?
[22:41] <jesuslover> is there a quick way to check it via command line?
[22:41] <genii> cat /etc/issue
[22:43] <jesuslover> the latest is linux lubuntu 4.2.0-16-generic?
[22:43] <jesuslover> sry
[22:44] <genii> !info linux-image-generic wily
[22:44] <wxl> jesuslover: latest released version is 15.10 but 16.04 is available in a an alpha state
[22:45] <jesuslover> ah ty
[22:45] <jesuslover> so sudo apt-get update wouldn't effect linux lubuntu 4.2.0-16-generic?
[22:45] <genii> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[22:45] <wxl> jesuslover: if you already have <IP_ADDRESS>.25, you wouldn't get anything newer. if you want newer, i'd advise getting the alpha release.
[22:45] <genii> jesuslover: If you're on Wily ( 15.10) it should bump up to the version ubottu says
[22:46] <jesuslover> ah, nice
[22:46] <jesuslover> yeah for some reason it keeps me at 4.2.0-16-generic but it is not a big deal just yet
[22:46] <jesuslover> what does "alpha" mean
[22:46] <jesuslover> does that mean stable?
[22:46] <jesuslover> uname -a shows me that 16-generic add-on after 4.2.0
[22:47] <wxl> jesuslover: no. it will be stable in april.
[22:47] <genii> jesuslover: apte-get upgrade ..does not upgrade kernels  .. apt-get dist-upgrade ...will upgrade kernels
[22:47] <genii> s/apte/apt
[22:50] <jesuslover> ah ty
[22:51] <jesuslover> you guys are awesome, God bless you
[22:51] <wxl> you too, jesuslover. :)


[02:28] <j1mc> i'm afraid to do a bzr merge because i haven't done one in about a week and a half, and there are going to be 30 billion ubuntu-hardy updates.  :)
[04:36] <j1mc> gah, i can't get a file to validate
[04:36] <j1mc> and i don't see why it's not validating.
[04:39] <sommer> what's the error
[04:39] <j1mc> hi sommer...
[04:39] <sommer> hey
[04:39] <j1mc> xubuntu/internet/C/internet.xml:978: element link: validity error : IDREF attribute linkend references an unknown ID "add-applications"
[04:39] <j1mc> but it validates earlier in the file.  the same type of reference.
[04:40] <sommer> ah, does the idref link to a section in another file?
[04:40] <j1mc> <link linkend="add-applications">Add Applications</link>
[04:41] <j1mc> why would that validate sometimes, but not all the time
[04:41] <sommer> hrrmmmm
[04:41] <sommer> the same link is in another location in the file?
[04:42] <sommer> ah, I see that it does
[04:42] <j1mc> yes
[04:44] <j1mc> hmmm... i guess it doesn't validate in other areas, sorry.
[04:45] <j1mc> should i try an xref link instead?
[04:45] <j1mc> a ulink?
[04:46] <sommer> I'm not sure, is <link> used in previous versions?
[04:46] <sommer> seems like it'd be okay
[04:46] <sommer> I get the unknown id error for all the add-application links when I try and validate that file
[04:46] <j1mc> yeah
[04:47] <j1mc> see 22:44 ^^  sorry for the confusion.
[04:48] <sommer> if you ./validate xubuntu/index.xml do you get an error?
[04:48] <sommer> I see the same error if I try to validate generic/serverguide/C/mail.xml for example
[04:48] <sommer> because the xref tags link to sections of another file
[04:49] <sommer> but if you ./validate generic/serverguide/C/serverguide.xml which includes all the files it will know the end of the link
[04:49] <sommer> if that makes sense... I think it's the same issue anyway
[04:49] <sommer> :-)
[04:49] <j1mc> no, it doesn't validate either
[04:49] <j1mc> index.xml ...
[04:51] <sommer> woops, my local xubuntu-hardy is out of date
[04:52] <sommer> updating
[04:52] <j1mc> ok
[04:52] <sommer> I didn't get any errors when validating index.xml though
[04:52] <sommer> does the link work in yelp?
[04:54] <j1mc> let me try
[04:55] <j1mc> no, it won't open in yelp.  :(
[04:56] <sommer> yep definitely a problem... heh
[04:57] <sommer> I don't have my xubuntu-hardy copy bzr bound and I did a bzr merge, do I then just do a bzr commit?
[04:57] <sommer> so far I've been using bzr pretty much like svn :-)
[04:57] <j1mc> yes... you'd do a bzr merge, and then commit
[04:58] <j1mc> i did get the index to open in yelp
[04:58] <sommer> cool, just wanted to make sure
[04:58] <j1mc> :)
[05:01] <sommer> poo I think my local copy is borked... now index.xml won't validate
[05:01] <sommer> sigh
[05:02] <j1mc> crap...
[05:03] <sommer> the add-applications section didn't change did it?
[05:04] <j1mc> just changing stuff like "ubuntu" to "xubuntu"
[05:04] <sommer> ah, was thinking that maybe applications got misspelled by mistake or something
[05:05] <j1mc> lemme do a bzr diff on it.
[05:07] <sommer> heh, the links seem to work in yelp for me
[05:07] <j1mc> nothing in there that would cause any problems.  i can fix index.xml.  it's the other file that has me confused.
[05:07] <j1mc> yeah, the links work ok
[05:07] <j1mc> weird.
[05:07] <sommer> you might ask mdke, he has more experience with docbook than I do :-)
[05:08] <j1mc> cool.  :)
[05:08] <j1mc> thanks for your help, sommer :)
[05:08] <sommer> np, wish I'd had a solution though... heh
[05:08] <j1mc> yeah, no worries.
[05:09] <j1mc> they aren't due tomorrow.  :)
[05:09] <sommer> true true
[15:16] <bodhi_zazen> 'lo all
[15:16] <bodhi_zazen> anyone available for a question re: deleting wiki pages ?
[21:56] <ubotu> New bug: #194514 in kubuntu-docs (main) "FTBFS in latest archive rebuild test" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194514
[21:59]  * jpatrick hmms at the above
[23:10] <mdke> jpatrick: looks like it just needs a substitution of a depends
[23:11] <jpatrick> mdke: yeah, but not sure which
[23:12] <mdke> jpatrick: well, kdelibs4c2a sounds like the most obvious candidate ;)
[23:12] <mdke> it'll be whatever package provides the css and style stuff for kde docs


[00:00] <phaidros> my irc live on my server, just need a dumb term with ssh :)
[00:00] <phaidros> s/live/lives
[00:00] <[Solars]> heh
[00:00] <[Solars]> so it said it re-added
[00:01] <[Solars]> cat /proc/mdstat shows all
[00:01] <[Solars]> but still inactive
[00:02] <phaidros> but all are in?
[00:02] <[Solars]> yea
[00:02] <[Solars]> all 4 parts
[00:04] <phaidros> hm, what does swapon -a say?
[00:04] <phaidros> (maybe use /dev/md2 in fstab)
[00:05] <[Solars]> swapon -a still gave same complaint
[00:05] <phaidros> hm, ok.
[00:05] <phaidros> so: mdadm --stop /dev/md2
[00:05] <[Solars]> the raid needs to be active
[00:06] <phaidros> we shut it down
[00:06] <[Solars]> also... blkid doesn't show uuid for that device
[00:06] <[Solars]> kk lets stop it!
[00:06] <phaidros> and reassemble with: mdadm --assemble ..
[00:06] <phaidros> that would rebuild the created (once with --create) raid device
[00:07] <[Solars]> got an error!
[00:07] <[Solars]> after entering
[00:07] <phaidros> what does it say?
[00:08] <[Solars]> mdadm --assemble /dev/md2 /dev/sda2 ... /dev/sdd2
[00:08] <[Solars]> i got
[00:08] <[Solars]> mdadm:/dev/md2 assembled from 3 drives - not enough to start array while not clean - consider -force
[00:10] <phaidros> hm, strange
[00:10] <[Solars]> so i guess gotta figure out how to clean the four drives
[00:10] <phaidros> what does your /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf say about that md2 ?
[00:11] <phaidros> (maybe only 3 listet)
[00:11] <[Solars]> nope
[00:12] <[Solars]> shows it with 4 drives with raid 5
[00:12] <phaidros> so, 3 possibilities: use --force for assemble or try assamble with --scan (to see what is does)
[00:12] <phaidros> 2nd: leave as is
[00:12] <[Solars]> erm lets break it then reassemble with scan
[00:12] <phaidros> 3rd: consider having a non raid swap. (i usually not raid my swaps) and mount 4 of them with same prio :)
[00:12] <[Solars]> or can i run scan w/o breaking
[00:13] <phaidros> nope. assemble wants to setup new imho. but try
[00:15] <phaidros> http://www.racmar.com/content/view/27/42/
[00:15] <phaidros> someone with the same issue :)
[00:17] <[Solars]> failed to RUN_ARRAY /dev/md2: Input/Output error
[00:17] <[Solars]> using the cmd mdadm --assemble --scan --force
[00:18] <phaidros> hm, I'm runnind out ideas now ..
[00:19] <phaidros> what does fdisk say about sdd ?
[00:19] <[Solars]> wonder if i have to use the alt-cd and go to rescue mode and rebuild that partition
[00:19] <[Solars]> fdisk shows all partitions
[00:20] <phaidros> nope. it is not in use. so you could rebuild it
[00:20] <phaidros> just be careful about device numbering
[00:20] <phaidros> maybe deleting in fdsik is not so clever ..
[00:20] <phaidros> not sure
[00:21] <phaidros> is it a server machine?
[00:22] <[Solars]> i rebooted just to see if it would work... all points are shown in /proc/mdstat but are syncing
[00:22] <phaidros> good :)
[00:22] <[Solars]> this isn't used as a server machine
[00:22] <phaidros> this will take a while, after that either swapon or creating mkswap before should work :)
[00:22] <[Solars]> but not shown in mount
[00:23] <phaidros> swap is never shown in mount
[00:23] <phaidros> you only see with swapon -s
[00:23]  * flyback swears this is the last canucking time he spends half or all of his weekend working on work stuff even just remote
[00:23] <phaidros> lol @ flyback
[00:24] <phaidros> isn't it always 'terminal-time' ?
[00:24] <phaidros> sometimes i even find it very refreshing :)
[00:24] <phaidros> odd, eh?
[00:24] <[Solars]> erm swapon -on doesn't show anything
[00:24] <phaidros> swapon -s
[00:25] <[Solars]> er i ment -s
[00:25] <phaidros> yeah, because the device is still under rebuild
[00:25] <[Solars]> and mkswap /dev/md2 complains about not having enough space
[00:25] <phaidros> until this is done, waiting is the game :)
[00:25] <[Solars]> so i gotta wiat
[00:25] <phaidros> argh --
[00:25] <phaidros> rebuild is done?
[00:25] <[Solars]> lemme check again
[00:26] <phaidros> sometimes this can take ages (it lasted 2 hours for my partition this afternoon :-/)
[00:27] <[Solars]> i might be wrong about it rebuilding... entry for /dev/md2 is
[00:28] <[Solars]> md2 : inactive sda2[0](s) sdb2[3](s) sdc2[2](s) sdd[2](s)
[00:28] <phaidros> hm
[00:29] <[Solars]> sdd[2] is new as long with the (s)'s
[00:29] <phaidros> why inactive??
[00:29] <[Solars]> doesn't say
[00:29] <phaidros> well, I throw the towel .. sorry, no idea
[00:29] <[Solars]> can mdadm check stats?
[00:29] <phaidros> uhm .. wait
[00:29] <[Solars]> status
[00:29] <phaidros> mdadm --detail or like this
[00:30] <phaidros> and mdadm --examine
[00:30] <phaidros> detail for mdX, examine for sdX
[00:30] <phaidros> or vice versa
[00:31] <[Solars]> it just shows the device is not active fter "mdam --details /dev/md2"
[00:32] <phaidros> what I would do now is the following:
[00:32] <phaidros> stop md2
[00:32] <phaidros> set for all sdX2 devices: mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdX2
[00:32] <[Solars]> examining each shows each partition active and part of raid5
[00:32] <phaidros> (which deletes the mdadm conf from the partition)
[00:33] <phaidros> and afterward recreate the md2
[00:33] <phaidros> mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=5 --raid-device=4 /dev/sdX2 /dev/sd2 ..
[00:33] <phaidros> mkswap and swapon -s
[00:34] <phaidros> if that fails consider something very unusual ..
[00:34] <[Solars]> erm does that also recreate /etc/fstab entry
[00:34] <phaidros> nope.
[00:34] <phaidros> when using mkswap /dev/md2 it tells a new uuid
[00:34] <[Solars]> kk
[00:34] <[Solars]> brb
[00:34] <phaidros> so take that uuid into fstab *or* just write /dev/md2 in fstab :)
[00:35] <phaidros> (I used to see the direct device name fail, but can't remember why)
[00:38] <[Solars]> everything worked up to "mkswap /dev/md2"
[00:39] <[Solars]> "swapon -s didn't work
[00:39] <[Solars]> or rather showed nothing
[00:43] <phaidros> mkswap worked?
[00:43] <phaidros> now try swapon /dev/md0
[00:43] <phaidros> after that you would see something with swapon -s
[00:44] <[Solars]> that worked!
[00:44] <[Solars]> i copied the UUID to fstab
[00:45] <[Solars]> for the mount point for swap should be "none"?
[00:46] <phaidros> yes
[00:46] <[Solars]> kk lets reboot
[00:46] <phaidros> swap is just used be the kernel if ram gets to full
[00:46] <phaidros> s/be/by
[00:51] <[Solars]> it rebooted
[00:51] <[Solars]> and swap worked
[00:51] <[Solars]> yay!
[00:52] <[Solars]> i guess i'll load up irssi
[00:53] <phaidros> :)
[00:53] <phaidros> so, 2a.m. here. gotta go
[00:59]  * [Solaris]2 waves to [Solars]
[00:59]  * [Solars] waves to [Solaris]2
[01:00] <[Solaris]2> this is going to take some getting used to
[01:01] <[Solaris]2> diffentl nees to be configured so ic an see stuff
[01:04] <[Solaris]2> bbl
[01:11] <drake_> erm
[01:27] <[Solars]> test
[01:27] <drake_> test
[01:28] <elnewb> test
[01:29] <[Solars]> working on getting irrsi color scheme working right lol
[01:31] <drake_> test 2.0
[01:31] <[Solars]> looks alot better
[01:32] <[Solars]> green/black with linux standard
[01:34]  * flyback bbl
[02:41] <lukehasnoname> so apparently usermod -G writes OVER the user's current groups
[02:42] <lukehasnoname> which is megagay
[02:43] <lukehasnoname> so now my (currently) headless server has no sudo-capable user
[02:43] <vk5foss> nice work.
[02:43] <vk5foss> -a ftw
[02:43] <lukehasnoname> ya, after rereading the man page I saw that
[02:44] <lukehasnoname> so now my plans for the night must be appended as I cannot setup the VMs I wanted to do, since one of my roommates' brothers stole my server monitor so he could play WoW with us
[03:04] <lukehasnoname> how do I install suggests in apt-get?
[03:07] <vk5foss> i think you can set it in apt.conf
[03:07] <lukehasnoname> eh, like on a case by case
[03:07] <lukehasnoname> there are --no-install-recommends and --install-recommends (default) switches
[03:07] <vk5foss> or with something like `-o Install::Suggests`
[08:49] <kraut> moin
[09:47] <chmac> kraut: moin moin
[09:49] <scuser> hi all, does anyone know which package should I install to get the file /etc/auth-client-config/profile.d/krb-auth-config ?
[10:03] <chmac> scuser: I think there's a command that can tell you which files are in which packages
[10:03] <chmac> scuser: I'm not sure what it is though!
[10:05] <hads> dpkg -L
[10:05] <hads> Only for installed packages though so doesn't help the situation.
[10:07] <chmac> scuser, hads: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkgtools.en.html#s-filesearch
[10:09] <hads> scuser, chmac: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[10:10] <chmac> hads: Neat, I didn't realise there was a filename search on there, useful to know
[10:38] <scuser> hi all, can anyone help me with this error "ldap_sasl_bind(SIMPLE): Can't contact LDAP server (-1)"
[11:20] <IOU> i dont know if this is the right place, but does anyone know of any good ways of tracking everything that users do on my server? They log in via SSH
[11:51] <philsf> IOU: have you looked into acct?
[11:51] <IOU> briefly
[11:52] <philsf> IOU: what else do you need?
[13:36] <scuser> hi all, does anyone know where could I find libnss-ldap.conf file ?
[13:37] <slangasek> doesn't exist in Ubuntu, it's called /etc/ldap.conf instead; do you have documentation that refers to libnss-ldap.conf?
[13:52] <milestone> hi all
[13:53] <milestone> i have a queation with openldap as the authentication backend. I have installed and configured ldap-auth-config and ldap-auth-client. Authentication works on my ubuntu server
[13:53] <milestone> only id -g <users> does not show the users memberships
[14:02] <ivoks> zul: ping
[14:03] <zul> ivoks: pong
[14:04] <ivoks> zul: i have a working drbd setup :)
[14:04] <zul> ivoks: really cool? what did you do?
[14:04] <ivoks> zul: but, the problem is that it requires changes in kernel and userland
[14:04] <ivoks> zul: i skiped 8.2.6 and moved to 8.2.7~rc1
[14:04] <zul> ivoks: shouldnt be a problem I think
[14:05] <zul> shouldnt be a problem after beta I think
[14:05] <zul> ivoks: can you send me a diff of the kernel changes?
[14:05] <ivoks> ok, i'll prepare patches
[14:06] <ivoks> zul: sure
[14:06] <ivoks> i don't have it atm, but i'll create one
[14:06] <zul> ivoks: no problem
[14:06] <ivoks> and that bacula bug... it could be a user error
[14:06] <zul> which one? :)
[14:07] <ivoks> since reported on bacula bug list said that patch fixed a problem
[14:07] <ivoks> the one that's stalling 7.1 revison in hardy :D
[14:07] <zul> ah the strippath one
[14:07] <ivoks> right
[14:07] <ivoks> never mind that... first things first - drbd
[14:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> milestone, backend to what?
[14:16] <ScottK> Any idea why the Ubuntu Server survey asks about how Synaptic can be improved to better support Ubuntu server?
[14:16] <Nafallo> ScottK: lol
[14:17] <ScottK> Nafallo: In fairness it did say apt/synaptic, but it seems odd to mention it at all.
[14:18] <Nafallo> ScottK: s/synaptic/aptitude/ :-)
[14:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> no idea.
[14:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> i should really get around to doing the survey too
[14:26] <stka_3-21> hi
[14:28] <stka_3-21> I'm close to getting nuts with ubuntu-server 8.04 and TLS. Everytime I set "TLSCipherSuite HIGH:MEDIUM:+SSLv2" the openldap Server isn't starting anymore all I get is "main: TLS init def ctx failed: -1"
[14:29] <stka_3-21> I read al lot of postings in the Web, all with the same problem but no solution
[14:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> stka_3-21, drove me nuts as well - and if i was at work, i could look at my notes and tell you what fixed it :\
[14:32] <stka_3-21> Kamping_Kaiser: so you got a solution?
[14:32] <Kamping_Kaiser> stka_3-21, pretty sure we did
[14:33] <stka_3-21> would it be possible that when I give you my e-mail adress that you can give the solution?
[14:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> stka_3-21, looks like we dropped that line from the config file. i only have TLSCACertificateFile TLSCertificateFile TLSCertificateKeyFile
[14:33]  * Kamping_Kaiser is ssh'd to the host
[14:34] <stka_3-21> When I remove the line openldap ist starting, but I can't get a connection then with "ldapserch -x -ZZ -H ldap://host.home"
[14:35] <stka_3-21> so there is no TLS connection possible
[14:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> do you have the correct cert/key/ca files?
[14:36] <stka_3-21> yes, I verified it three or four times even rebuild the certificates
[14:36] <zul> stka_3-21: permissions are correct?
[14:37] <stka_3-21> jes
[14:37] <stka_3-21> yes
[14:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> what sort of error do you get connecting?
[14:37] <stka_3-21> mom
[14:37] <stka_3-21> ldap_start_tls: Connect error (-11)
[14:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> sorry, /me -=> bed
[14:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> good luck with it
[14:38] <ScottK> stka_3-21: You really ought to find a way to avoid SSLv2.  It's no longer considered cryptographically secure.  In Intrepid (I think) openssl is buit without SSLv2 support.
[14:38] <stka_3-21> in /var/log/syslog there is only http://phpfi.com/358271
[14:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> ScottK, thats one reason we dropped the linel from our config
[14:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> my memory is it may not even be valid in 2.4, but dont quote me
[14:40] <stka_3-21> ScottK: "gnutls-cli -l" tells me that I can use SSL 3.0 so I change to "SSLv3" but still the same
[14:41] <ScottK> OK.  I don't have a solution to your problem, just wanted to point that out.
[14:41] <stka_3-21> I would drop the line if I can figure out what to do to get a connection to my openldap via TLS
[14:43] <ivoks> in intrepid none of our ssl libraries support sslv2
[14:43] <ScottK> Which is wonderful news.  Thanks again for your work on that.
[14:43] <ivoks> i was just loud :D
[14:44] <stka_3-21> so what shoud I do to get openldap running with TLS
[14:45] <stka_3-21> this is how it looks now http://phpfi.com/358275
[14:47] <ivoks> so.. problems with ldaps client?
[14:49] <stka_3-21> yes
[14:50] <ivoks> both server and client are ubuntu?
[14:50] <stka_3-21> at the moment I try it from the same maschine
[14:50] <ivoks> oh...
[14:51] <ivoks> telnet localhost 636 works?
[14:52] <stka_3-21> i don't use ldaps
[14:53] <stka_3-21> i did't this befor with suse and debian and it allways worked
[14:56] <stka_3-21> Here are my entries from /etc/ldap/ldap.conf http://phpfi.com/358280
[14:57] <ivoks> are those keys signed?
[14:58] <stka_3-21> self signed
[14:58] <ivoks> TLSVerifyClient never
[14:58] <ivoks> ?
[14:58] <stka_3-21> I never had any Problems with self signed certificates
[14:59] <stka_3-21> ivoks: that's default
[14:59] <stka_3-21> I can give it a try
[14:59] <ivoks> ok
[14:59] <ivoks> on client, add:
[14:59] <ivoks> TLS_REQCERT allow
[14:59] <stka_3-21> ok
[15:01] <stka_3-21> still the same
[15:01] <stka_3-21> ldap_start_tls: Connect error (-11)
[15:01] <ivoks> ok, stop the ldap server on server
[15:02] <ivoks> and run it like this:
[15:02] <ivoks> sudo slapd -d127 -h "ldap:///" -u openldap -g openldap
[15:03] <stka_3-21> ok is running
[15:03] <ivoks> give me a second...
[15:04] <felimwhiteley_> Hi All, I'm trying to troublshoot a bug on Server at the moment (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/273313)
[15:04] <felimwhiteley_> Any of you evr run the dbeug kernel, not sure if it give me a more verbose dump of what's going on as of right now I can't find anything
[15:05] <ivoks> gnutls-cli -s --insecure -p 389 server_ip
[15:05] <ivoks> er...
[15:05] <ivoks> without -s
[15:06] <stka_3-21> ok
[15:06] <stka_3-21> mom
[15:06] <ivoks> does that work?
[15:07] <stka_3-21> ivoks: the result http://phpfi.com/358285
[15:07] <ivoks> so, the server doesn't do TLS
[15:07] <ivoks> can you paste your /etc/ldap/slapd.conf?
[15:07] <stka_3-21> yes mom
[15:08] <stka_3-21> here ist is http://phpfi.com/358286
[15:10] <laga> hi.
[15:11] <stka_3-21> That's the the result from "ls /etc/ssl/zertifikate/"
[15:11] <stka_3-21> demoCA  ldapcert.pem  ldapkey.pem
[15:11] <ivoks> do you see any problems in terminal where you started openldap?
[15:12] <laga> soren: did you ever get around to adding proper vbox support to ubuntu-vm-builder?
[15:12] <stka_3-21> no Problem at all. The logfile is clean
[15:12] <ivoks> there's no log file
[15:12] <ivoks> you started slapd in debugging mode
[15:12] <stka_3-21> in /var/log/syslog
[15:13] <ivoks> forget that now
[15:13] <stka_3-21> ok
[15:13] <ivoks> check the terminal where you started slapd
[15:13] <stka_3-21> you mean when I start slapd over the cli
[15:13] <ivoks> yes
[15:13] <ivoks> sudo slapd -d127 -h "ldap:///" -u openldap -g openldap
[15:14] <ivoks> you could try with -d64
[15:14] <stka_3-21> I see all the messages from loding the schema files and the opening of the database
[15:14] <soren> laga: Nope.
[15:15] <ivoks> stka_3-21: ok, kill that
[15:15] <ivoks> stka_3-21: add loglevel 64 to /etc/ldap/slapd.conf
[15:15] <ivoks> stka_3-21: and start slapd normaly; /etc/init.d/slapd start
[15:15] <laga> soren: why not pull vbox references from ubuntu-vm-builder till it actually works? or are there cases where it works?
[15:16] <stka_3-21> that's waht I get for TLS when starting over cli http://phpfi.com/358288
[15:16] <soren> laga: AFAICS, the vbox "pluin" in the old ubuntu-vm-builder is a no-op.
[15:16] <soren> laga: I don't use VirtualBox myself. I don't know what it needs to work.
[15:17] <stka_3-21> ivoks: that's the result http://phpfi.com/358289
[15:17] <laga> soren: see bug #244309 - it will fail.
[15:18] <ivoks> stka_3-21: ok, now connect with gnutls-cli
[15:19] <soren> laga: I'm not surprised. What file format does virtualbox use?
[15:20] <stka_3-21> ivoks: here is the result http://phpfi.com/358290
[15:20] <laga> soren: they use some XML to describe the virtual machine and probably a homegrown image format. it can also use vmdk or you can use vditool to convert images AFAIK
[15:21] <ivoks> stka_3-21: just for fun, let's enable ldaps
[15:21] <stka_3-21> ok
[15:22] <ivoks> stka_3-21: in /etc/default/slapd
[15:22] <ivoks> stka_3-21: SLAPD_SERVICES="ldap:/// ldaps:///"
[15:23] <stka_3-21> I dit it an restartet openldap
[15:23] <ivoks> stka_3-21: gnutls-cli --insecure -p 636 server_ip
[15:23] <stka_3-21> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:636             <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN      5418/slapd
[15:24] <stka_3-21> that works :-)
[15:24] <ivoks> but that's not what you want
[15:24] <stka_3-21> not realy
[15:24] <ivoks> you want TLS over 389
[15:25] <stka_3-21> yes like I did it befor
[15:26] <ivoks> is there a bug about this?
[15:26] <stka_3-21> "ldapsearch -x -ZZ -H ldaps://ldapserver.home.stka" is still not working
[15:26] <stka_3-21> ldap_start_tls: Can't contact LDAP server (-1)
[15:27] <ivoks> ldapsearch -x -H ldaps://ldapserver.home.stka
[15:29] <stka_3-21> ldap_sasl_bind(SIMPLE): Can't contact LDAP server (-1)
[15:29] <ivoks> try with IP
[15:29] <ivoks> it should work; you've already connected with gnutls-cli
[15:30] <stka_3-21> the same
[15:30] <ivoks> and telnet server_ip 636 works?
[15:32] <stka_3-21> Connected to <IP_ADDRESS>.
[15:33] <ivoks> check syslog
[15:33] <stka_3-21> nothing
[15:33] <ivoks> then your client is broken
[15:34] <ivoks> you are missing:
[15:34] <ivoks> TLS_REQCERT allow in /etc/ldap/ldap.conf
[15:36] <ivoks> on client
[15:36] <stka_3-21> I put it in, yes it was missing
[15:36] <ivoks> i guess ldaps works, but ldap (with -Z) doesn't
[15:37] <stka_3-21> But -ZZ forces the Server to authenticate with a certificate
[15:38] <ivoks> only if you have TLS_REQCERT demand
[15:39] <stka_3-21> That's what I got now http://phpfi.com/358294
[15:41] <ivoks> report a bug, if it isn't already reported
[15:41] <ivoks> i can't look into this deeper atm...
[15:42] <stka_3-21> ivoks: here is the result with a "-d 1 " using ldapsearch http://phpfi.com/358297
[15:43] <ivoks> TLS: peer cert untrusted or revoked
[15:43] <stka_3-21> ivoks: but why?
[15:43] <ivoks> did you import server's certificate on the client?
[15:44] <stka_3-21> client and server ist the same maschine
[15:44] <ivoks> i know
[15:45] <ivoks> but you need to import server's certificate on client, so that client can trust the server
[15:45] <stka_3-21> And normaly I don't need a client certificate
[15:45] <ivoks> oh...
[15:45] <ivoks> not client certificate
[15:46] <ivoks> server's certificate
[15:46] <ivoks> how does your client know who is the real server?
[15:46] <ivoks> he can't know if it doesn't have some proof
[15:46] <ivoks> and that's a certificate
[15:47] <ivoks> you'll also need to add openldap user to ssl-cert group
[15:47] <stka_3-21> That was the thing
[15:47] <stka_3-21> I found out what it was
[15:48] <stka_3-21> ivoks: this line "TLS_CACERT /etc/ssl/zertifikate/demoCA/cacert.pem" was missing in /etc/ldap/ldap.conf
[15:48] <ivoks> right
[15:48] <stka_3-21> I should not work the day after a marathon run
[15:48] <ivoks> that's how you tell your client to trust all certs signed by that key
[15:49] <ivoks> great... :)
[15:49] <ivoks> so, that's solved
[15:49] <ivoks> now, can i get back to drbd? :)
[15:49] <stka_3-21> yes I know. I got that in my workshop as well. But sometimes it ist better to do something esle
[15:49] <stka_3-21> yes it's solved. Thank you so much for youre help
[15:50] <ivoks> np
[15:50] <stka_3-21> I think I finish for today and go to bed ;-)
[15:52] <laga> soren: i'm looking at the vmware scripts now. vbox support shouldn't be too hard to add. why was a noop vbox template added?
[15:53] <soren> laga: I don't remember.
[15:53] <soren> laga: Please don't work anymore on ubuntu-vm-builder.
[15:53] <soren> laga: It's being replaced with a python implementation.
[15:53] <soren> laga: http://launchpad.net/vmbuilder
[15:53] <laga> soren: oh. in intrepid?
[15:53] <soren> laga: Yes.
[15:53] <laga> ah. does trunk work well now?
[15:54] <soren> Quite.
[15:54] <ivoks> python python clap clap clap :D
[15:54] <soren> \o/
[15:56] <laga> looks a lot cleaner than the bash one ;)
[15:56] <ivoks> identetion and everything :)
[15:58] <laga> if i didnt have so much on my plate already, i would have added vbox support :(
[15:59] <soren> laga: Same here :)
[16:02] <laga> "We intentionally  do not document the specifications of these files, as we must reserve the right to modify them in the future"
[16:02] <laga> virtualbox on their xml files. thankls virtualbox
[16:03] <laga> "VBoxManage" is a configuration interface. maybe that's going to work
[16:16] <soren> laga: If you can come up with a way to take som raw disk images, and some settings (number of cpu's, amount of memory, etc.) and turn that into a virtualbox VM, I'll be happy to do the actual implementation.
[16:17] <laga> now that's a plan. i'll get back to you
[16:27] <ivoks> hm... guys...
[16:27] <ivoks> how about maintaining server team's git for kernel?
[16:29] <soren> You don't want to do that.
[16:30] <ivoks> i don't :D
[16:30] <ivoks> but chuck has it's tree
[16:31] <ivoks> i guess i'll send patches to him
[16:32] <Rioting_pacifist> !powersave
[16:34] <Rioting_pacifist> im trying to setup powernowd or a similar powersaving daemon on my old laptop to turn it into a server (it no longer has a screen) but neither cpufreqd or powernowd seam to work
[16:40] <Rioting_pacifist> mpd requires x11-common is this right? :S im new to servers but isnt x11 for desktops?
[16:42] <ivoks> mpd doesn't require x11-common
[16:43] <soren> Yes, it does.
[16:43] <soren> by extension.
[16:43] <soren> mpd -> libaudio2 -> libxt6 -> libx11-6
[16:43] <ivoks> that might be...
[16:46] <Rioting_pacifist> is it better to use xmms2 then as that doesnt seam to require any x11 components?
[16:46] <soren> xmms is a gui application.
[16:46] <ivoks> xmms2
[16:46] <ivoks> that's a non-gui app
[16:46] <ivoks> :D
[16:47] <soren> Really? Wow
[16:47] <ivoks> having x11-common isn't that strange on servers
[16:47] <ivoks> there are some server related services that depend on it
[16:47]  * soren nods
[16:48] <Rioting_pacifist> so either is good then? ok thx
[16:48] <ivoks> yeah.. i think some fonts pull it in
[16:49] <Koon> x11-common is installed on servers now
[16:49] <Koon> through openssh-client / xauth (bug 270512)
[16:50] <Koon> libx11-6 is installed through wpasupplicant -> libdbus-1-3 -> dbus -> consolekit (bug 270500)
[16:51] <ivoks> 'nice'
[16:51] <Koon> "yes"
[16:52]  * Koon drops out of sight
[16:52] <Rioting_pacifist> isnt that rediculously easy to fix?
[16:52] <Koon> Rioting_pacifist: you mean those two bugs ?
[16:53] <Koon> Rioting_pacifist: you'd need first that everyone agrees those are bugs and not features.
[16:54]  * Koon really drops out of sight now
[16:54] <Rioting_pacifist> 1st one clearly is a bug, the only argument for it is that other software may need it, but if that is the case then the other software will install it openssh does not need xauth so should only suggest it
[16:57] <didrocks> jdstrand: around?
[16:57] <jdstrand> didrocks: hi! (yes)
[16:57] <didrocks> jdstrand: hi!
[16:58] <didrocks> jdstrand: did you have the time to have a look at making ufw case insensitive merge proposal?
[16:58] <didrocks> (I say that because I make a smarter/better code yesterday that I pushed using list comprehension)
[16:58] <jdstrand> didrocks: briefly (sorry for the delay). I plan to look at it more extensively today, and decide whether it can go into intrepid or should be jaunty material
[16:59] <didrocks> jdstrand: no pb, just look at the very last commit :)
[16:59] <jdstrand> didrocks: either way, I'll likely commit today if their are no issues
[16:59] <didrocks> jdstrand: ok, keep me in touch. I always backlog on hl :)
[17:00] <jdstrand> didrocks: cool, thanks
[17:00] <didrocks> thanks to you!
[17:19] <[Solaris]> infinity: /names
[17:20] <ivoks> [Solaris]: ?
[17:21] <infinity> ...?
[17:28] <[Solars]> ivoks... err gotta get used to irrsi .. but anyways had a ton of fun trying to figure out why my /swap partition/raid was inactive and part of it was not "added" at boot up
[17:29] <ivoks> added?
[17:29] <ivoks> maybe you didn't format it as swap
[17:29] <[Solars]> it was missing 1 of the four raid drives
[17:29] <ivoks> oh...
[17:29] <[Solars]> it all was all formated
[17:29] <[Solars]> it was all partitioned
[17:30] <[Solars]> basically what we did was
[17:31] <[Solars]> ./mdadm --stop /dev/md2 && /mdadm <erased the superblocks on the 4 drives> && /mdadm --create /dev/mda2 <list the partitions) && mksawp /dev/mda2 && swapon /dev/mda2
[17:31] <ivoks> great
[17:35] <[Solars]> dunno if i am going to stick with irssi or not kinda annoying at times :P
[17:36] <laga> heretic ;)
[17:37] <[Solars]> last time before this that i used a cli irc client was bitchx
[17:37] <[Solars]> and that was many years ago
[20:25] <FFEMTcJ> has anyone downloaded and installed a copy of ubuntu server reciently on a cd?
[20:26] <FFEMTcJ> I keep getting an error that a file is corrupt.. ive downloaded a couple times form different servers and made a bunch of cd's to no avail
[20:27] <FFEMTcJ> and the most recient cd i made gives an error of there was a prolem reading data from your cd
[20:28] <[Solars]> tried burning the cd as slow as possible>
[20:28] <FFEMTcJ> [Solars]: i burnt them at 2x.. 1x is the only thing slower
[20:28] <[Solars]> worse case scenerio you can get the desktop version, and install the server tools you need and remove the gnome desktop and x
[20:29] <[Solars]> sometimes even 1x makes a difference
[20:29] <FFEMTcJ> ill try it again
[20:30] <FFEMTcJ> ./dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz is showing as failed md5 verification
[20:34] <[Solars]> not good then
[20:40] <Database> How does one configure Postfix for multiple domains?
[20:41] <FFEMTcJ> [Solars]: so burning slower might not fix that?
[20:47] <[Solars]> you did a md5 verification on the iso?
[20:47] <[Solars]> if the iso checks ok
[20:47] <[Solars]> then burning slower may fix it
[20:48] <[Solars]> might even try different media
[20:57] <_ruben> FFEMTcJ: and perhaps the cd burner and/or reader is broken/dieing?
[20:58] <ivoks> Database: easily :)
[20:59] <Database> Heh.
[20:59] <Database> Well, I am a complete n00b to it, so be gentle. :P
[21:00] <ivoks> you want an easy way to add new users?
[21:00] <Database> Kinda.
[21:01] <ivoks> Database: http://www.opensourcehowto.org/how-to/mysql/mysql-users-postfixadmin-postfix-dovecot--squirrelmail-with-userprefs-stored-in-mysql.html
[21:01] <Database> Thanks.
[21:01] <ivoks> Database: this should be more than good start
[21:01] <Database> OOooh.
[21:01] <Database> web-based admin panel.
[21:01] <Database> I approve of this.
[21:03] <ivoks> Database: follow this tutorial only if you don't plan to allow shell access
[21:03] <Database> I don't.
[21:03] <ivoks> then... great
[21:04] <Database> It's only acecssible from inside my network, as well :)
[21:05] <Database> ...Ah.
[21:05] <Database> I'm using Lighttpd.
[21:05] <Database> Does that matter massively?
[21:05] <ivoks> that's irrelevant
[21:05] <Database> Oh, good.
[21:05] <ivoks> you are setting up mail server
[21:06] <Database> I know, but I rtfm'd. ;)
[21:06] <Database> ... not far enough, apparantly.
[21:06] <Database> It does support Lighty.
[21:06] <Database> >>
[21:06] <Database> Sorry.
[21:57] <RediXe> How do I check what service's are running? mainly apache
[21:58] <ivoks> telnet localhost 80
[21:59] <[Solars]> ivoks what irc client are you running?
[21:59] <RediXe> Yeah, just realized that apache and mysql aren't running... Not sure how to start them either ...    they're not in the /etc/init.d/
[21:59] <ivoks> irssi
[21:59] <ivoks> RediXe: if they aren't there, then they aren't installed
[22:00] <dana_good> RediXe: did you do a LAMP install?
[22:00] <[Solars]> ivoks heh figued.. gotta find a client for me :P
[22:00] <RediXe> ivoks, They were running before I restarted the server.               dana_good, I installed knowledge tree which installs apache and mysql. Just not sure where.
[22:01] <ivoks> knowledge tree?
[22:01] <ivoks> ?
[22:02] <RediXe> Yeah it's a document management system ... I found what I was looking for
[22:03] <RediXe> I just need to add the command to start up
[22:06] <dana_good> RediXe: that's good, you might want to see if theres a support channel for knowledge tree if its installing things in nonstandard locations
[22:06] <cyris|> hey everyone. i have a question regarding a new server I setup just recently. this new server is behind a NAT router. This server uses my isp's name server to resolve queries. Since this machine is behind this NAT router, what would be its proper hostname?
[22:07] <RediXe> dana_good, well I was more curious on testing if it was running and something else was the issue. (and there channel is dead)
[22:08] <RediXe> How would I add something to start with boot?
[22:08] <RediXe> @reboot in crontrab is what I found.
[22:09] <RediXe> That doesn't seem right to me
[22:09] <dana_good> init.d
[22:12] <hads> @reboot is useful if you want to start something as a normal user.
[22:12] <hads> I do that for screen sessions
[22:40] <mathiaz> RediXe: if you don't have proper init scripts, you can always modify /etc/rc.local
[22:40] <RediXe> I'll look into it more tomorrow .. I'm about to be off work for the day.
[23:59] <mathiaz> kirkland: did you add the virtulization task to the installer ?


[20:32] <bcbc2> BlueWolf: I've never had a problem on my real installs. I've had issues during development testing (but those are generally throwaway installs)
[20:32] <uvala> could ddrescue enable a recovery on this disk?
[20:32] <bcbc2> BlueWolf: I should warn you that the upgrade tool doesn't calculate free space correctly, so if you don't have 3GB or more free, don't attempt an upgrade.
[20:33] <bekks> uvala: No. ddrescue will read whatever there is on your disk - and there is quite a lot of overwritten data.
[20:33] <litropy> Mathias, I like the xmbc idea. I actually really like it ... I have another box that I could dedicate for that. And I have an Android phone I can use for a remote. Only problem is, it doesn't have an HDMI out.
[20:34] <bekks> uvala: You're better of with testdisk, which might be able to recover the data which got overwritten.
[20:34] <BlueWolf> bekks: Thank You :D
[20:34] <BlueWolf> auronandace: Thank You :D
[20:34] <BlueWolf> Mathias: Thank You :D
[20:34] <BlueWolf> OerHeks: Your now talking about tricks that are far beyond my intellectual capabilities.
[20:34] <BlueWolf> bcbc2: Space is not my concern but the smooth running of my system as well as along side the petty windows.
[20:35] <uvala> bekks, thank you very much for your information! I'd heard of very strong tools that would recover data from two years ago, is there one such tool among free tools?
[20:35] <bcbc2> BlueWolf: check that 12.04 runs okay first (from a live CD/USB). Make a backup. Then upgrade.
[20:36] <bekks> uvala: The choice of the tools depends on the exact details of the circumstance that led to data corruption.
[20:37] <BlueWolf> bcbc2: It works, seems I will be doing a full reinstall rather than an Upgrade. I have been warned countless time that Upgrading is not the best.
[20:38] <Mathias> hmm, i might try reinstalling to 13.04 to see if the green text disappears
[20:38] <bcbc2> BlueWolf: ok. Go for it. I don't understand why people say that. But it's your choice. Note though, that if you're reinstalling anyway, you get a free shot at upgrading.
[20:38] <Mathias> or 12.04
[20:38] <bekks> Mathias: Which green text?
[20:39] <Mathias> i'll copy/paste
[20:39] <Mathias> i'll ask my question again, two display setup on my laptop, on the tv the text is greenish (gnome-terminal, xbmc),  but everything else is fine
[20:40] <fredrik__> I have a raid in my setup and the disc are shared threw samba. This only works if I log in, starts nautilus and dubbeclick on the disc in the left menu... how can I make this work better?
[20:40] <escott_> !samba | fredrik__
[20:40] <BlueWolf> bcbc2: Well said a thought I shall consider.
[20:41] <uvala> bekks, the circumstance was just inadvertent deletion of the partition. no disk failure, no other agent. since it had ext format, I'd tried extundelete, but I could never make it work with my level of knowledge, despite the fact that I applied online information available. then I used testdisk, which, likely because the disk was further interfered with via my trials, did not recover some folders/files.
[20:41] <compdoc> fredrik__, sounds liek you need to mount the raid in fstab
[20:41] <BlueWolf> bcbc2: Thank you for your time in assisting me. :D
[20:41] <fredrik__> escott, the problem is not samba. I have no trouble to make shares. The problem is that it wont work without mounting the disc
[20:41] <bcbc2> BlueWolf: no prob. good luck :)
[20:42] <BlueWolf> bcbc2: I will need it. :)
[20:42] <bekks> uvala: When the data was overwritten physically, it is lost, and there is no chance of recovering it.
[20:42] <litropy> What's a cheap video card that has an HDMI output? I'm not playing games on it, so I don't need it to be high-powered. I'm just looking for 1080p for XMBC.
[20:42] <Whiskey`Wonka> litropy: newegg.com and look, there are many
[20:42] <bekks> uvala: If it is really important data - restore it from the backup or call a professional servoce like Kroll Ontrack.
[20:42] <dr_willis> litropy:  you can get ok nvidia cards in the $30 range i recall
[20:42] <fredrik__> compdoc, seems like it.. but how? and why is the disc not mounted by ubuntu?
[20:43] <bcbc2> BlueWolf: check out some of these... might help: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds/21378/testcases/1254/results
[20:43] <dr_willis> litropy:  and i imagine most have hdmi these days
[20:43] <Vulcan[OMNI]> hey, the 'id' command says that I am in the group 'foo'. However, when I put the line ''%foo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL' in my sudoers file, I still have to type my password. Can anyone see what is wrong with this?
[20:43] <uvala> bekks, that's what I am wondering. so, if these professional services can do it, there must be some tool that can do it, isn't it?
[20:44] <escott_> uvala, if all you did was remove the partition table you just need to put it back
[20:44] <bekks> uvala: They dont only use tools, but have techniques like clean rooms, etc.
[20:44] <BlueWolf> bcbc2: Thank you, cheers.
[20:45] <Mathias> yay, the apport-loop has started again...
[20:45] <Mathias> it's so fun that it reports that itself has crashed
[20:47] <fredrik__> compdoc, why do I need to add it to fstab when its mounted to /media/xxx?
[20:48] <compdoc> fredrik__, when you add a disk, its never mounted for you. Study fstab, and create a mount directory.
[20:48] <compdoc> fredrik__, /media/xxx is there because you mounted it from the desktop
[20:48] <johntron> is this possible: I've got a machine running precise with one extra drive, and i can't boot it from cd, usb, or net. I want to install quetzal on a new drive so I can change my partition sizes and then migrate the old files to the new drive.
[20:48] <litropy> dr_willis, Whiskey`Wonka, at these prices, I may as well get a raspberry pi :)
[20:49] <Whiskey`Wonka> litropy: eh?
[20:49] <dr_willis> litropy:  i got 2 pis allready
[20:49] <fredrik__> compdoc, if I reboot and just open a terminal and do a cd /media/xx the disc is there.. but you meen that it's not "mounted" the right way anyway?
[20:50] <johntron> dr_willis: tried raspbmc?
[20:50] <compdoc> fredrik__, yeah, ubuntu is remembering you mouted it. unmount it before using fstab
[20:50] <johntron> i recently migrated my LAMP server to nginx on a pi
[20:50] <litropy> dr_willis, do you run XMBC on any of the two?
[20:50] <uvala> bekks, ok, I see. back then I didnt hope much more after testdisk recovery, so I did more than just removing the partition. I created new partitions, saved data on them, and then later deleted them and reformatted disk.
[20:51] <Mathias> wonderful, my sd card-reader won't work
[20:51] <uvala> bekks, so now it is like the third flush of the disk since then.
[20:52] <johntron> litropy: have you tried raspbmc?
[20:52] <dr_willis> litropy:  yes.
[20:52] <johntron> how was it?
[20:53] <dr_willis> raspbmc and the xbmc stuff work decently well.
[20:53] <dr_willis> given the limitations of the pi
[20:53] <johntron> still kinda slow though
[20:53] <johntron> ?
[20:53] <litropy> johntron, I might, one I get a pi :)
[20:54] <openelec> what does a flashdrive come formatted as because i installed ubuntu on my flashdrive and i want to make it a normal flash drive again
[20:54] <litropy> dr_willis, It does okay? what's the lag like?
[20:54] <johntron> litropy: ah, ic. I was just wondering if it's worth it
[20:54] <dr_willis> litropy:  dident notice any.. but all i play is anime. ;) and cartoons
[20:54] <Martinjo84> openelec: normal windows formats
[20:54] <tgm4883> openelec, normally, fat32
[20:54] <The0ne> exit
[20:54] <litropy> dr_willis, nice thx
[20:54] <openelec> how do i reformat it in ubuntu
[20:55] <dr_willis> openelec:  use gparted is one way
[20:55] <tgm4883> openelec, you can do it in disk utility
[20:55] <openelec> how do i open disk utility from terminal
[20:55] <Martinjo84> openelec: ntfs is best, if you need the filesize more then 4gb
[20:55] <tgm4883> dist utility is installed by default. gparted isn't. Either would work
[20:56] <bingo> stojic, Its because yahoo doesnt work with pop anymore only yahoo plus (after payment) does, outlook does work with pop and now the option is showing
[20:57] <litropy> Welp, XMBC is out until I get HDMI. Any other ideas for my extra box, peeps? I'm just bored with it.
[20:57] <openelec> is exFat the same thing
[20:57] <openelec> tgm4883,
[20:57] <tgm4883> openelec, no
[20:57] <tgm4883> openelec, similar though.
[20:58] <openelec> which one should i use
[20:58] <stojic> bingo: I see.
[20:58] <tgm4883> openelec, exfat is used when ntfs isn't feasible to use but you need larger than 4GB filesizes
[20:58] <tgm4883> openelec, mostly used in digital cameras and such
[20:58] <tgm4883> openelec, well what do you want to use the flash drive for?
[20:58] <openelec> transfer files
[20:58] <tgm4883> openelec, to/from what?
[20:59] <openelec> linux mac and windows
[20:59] <tgm4883> openelec, how large files?
[21:00] <fredrik__> compdoc, thanks...
[21:00] <root__> ciaoo
[21:00] <shomid> Hey, anyone here using openbox?
[21:00] <openelec> dr_willis,  can i use the gparted without live disk
[21:00] <root__> hi!!
[21:00] <root__> c'è qualcuno italiano ???
[21:01] <tgm4883> !it | root__
[21:01] <root__> thanks
[21:02] <uvala> free software is true enabling of humans! today I discovered new software on ubuntu, and felt this again and again. all their developers out there, heartily thanks for all your efforts in the way of a better humanity!
[21:02] <openelec> dr_willis,  can i use the gparted without live disk
[21:02] <inashdeen> hi there, I have a prob. I am running ubuntu 12.04. my friend is running windows 7. he has a shared folder. I can't access it from my ubuntu. another friend using windows 7 can access them.i run smbtree, I can see n access another shared folder from another computer, probabily running XP. what is the prob here?
[21:03] <dr_willis> openelec:  if you are changeing a flash drive.. you just use gparted from whatever you boot fro,m,
[21:04] <dr_willis> shomid:  a lot of people use openbox
[21:05] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  so you fire up nautilus and hit ctrl-l and enter the path to the share similer to... smb://the.server.ip.address/sharename and what happens ?
[21:06] <dr_willis> windows shares can just be weird.. with win7+ and the windows homegroups it seems to be even flakier at times
[21:07] <inashdeen> dr_willis: the same . Failed to retrieve share list from server
[21:07] <ethana3> I've got an i7-3770 system and I'm trying to test my RAM with the memtest86+ included with Ubuntu 13.04 daily x64.. it fails with the same error on the last bit of every byte from the first one and my system is rock-solid.. anyone know where I can get a memory tester that actually works?
[21:07] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  sounds like the server is somehow blockng that pc.
[21:07] <dr_willis> or ignoreingit.
[21:08] <ethana3> I tried to go straight to the memtest86+ site and get an image but the USB disk creator wouldn't work on it
[21:08] <inashdeen> dr_willis : so how do I overcome it
[21:08] <bekks> ethana3: that is the memory tester that actually works. All you can do now is getting a hardware memory tester which is quiote expensive.
[21:08] <inashdeen> I mean, when I run my windows, on this same PC, I can access COMPAQ-PC flwlessly
[21:08] <dr_willis> thres some alternative samba browser tools in the repos.. not sure if smb3k is still around.. i used to use it all the time ages ago.
[21:08] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  you could try just mounting the shares by hand
[21:08] <inashdeen> dr_willis: how?
[21:08] <dr_willis> !samba
[21:08] <escott_> ethana3, you ram is bad. just because it hasn't crashed the machine doesn't mean its not bad
[21:09] <ethana3> Every byte? with the same exact type of error on each one?
[21:09] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  with the mount command and the cifs filesystem option
[21:09] <dr_willis> !windows
[21:09] <openelec> dr_willis,  how do i send u screen shot of error
[21:09] <escott_> ethana3, memtest86 is a very very simple program. write a pattern read a pattern, check if it matches
[21:09] <inashdeen> dr_willis : I am quite noob. a lil bit explanation and thank you very much
[21:09] <dr_willis> openelec:  Huh?  you repartion the flash drive and reformat it..
[21:10] <ethana3> escott_: I've had it fail on me before, due to a bug.. the whole test #7 thing
[21:10] <openelec> dr_willis,  from gprated
[21:10] <dr_willis> inashdeen:  theres guides out there on mounting windows shaeres. ive not done it in ages.
[21:10] <dr_willis> bbl
[21:12] <openelec> I have 3 partions in the flash driveunknown unallocated and hfs+how do i clear this and make it useable again
[21:12] <escott_> ethana3, if your problem is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memtest86+/+bug/1071209 then discard the false positive
[21:13] <tekk> ok i lost my question in the abyss...
[21:13] <tekk> disabling swap. bad idea?
[21:13] <ethana3> escott_: that's what it was with my C2D, and I found that bug and clicked "this affects me"
[21:13] <phunyguy> tekk, if you have enough physical RAM, then it won't hurt,
[21:13] <ethana3> escott_: this time it's all the tests, from the instant it starts, and the pattern is always the same until the last character, then it's always consistent, but different
[21:13] <tekk> if i don't... what will happen? pom?
[21:13] <tekk> oom
[21:13] <tekk> stupid auto correct hah
[21:13] <openelec> dr_willis, I have 3 partions in the flash driveunknown unallocated and hfs+how do i clear this and make it useable again
[21:14] <tekk> i'd rather the machine or guest dies than the hdd starts thrashing
[21:14] <Neptu> hej, I want to use emacs in a console inside a window and I get anoyed because left alt triggers some shortcut. I modified the launch to hud shortcut in the configuration but still is not working...
[21:14] <ethana3> has anyone run memtest86+ on a 3770 and had it pass?
[21:14] <phunyguy> tekk is swap space causing you issues?
[21:14] <tekk> kind of
[21:14] <tekk> so
[21:14] <tekk> i have a VM host running ubuntu 12.10
[21:14] <tekk> I have a guest with 10gb RAM allocated... if the guest needs more memory.. it starts swapping...
[21:15] <tekk> and for some reason this kills the host after a while
[21:15] <escott_> ethana3, im not sure what you want us to say. you seem to have the full diagnosis in front of you
[21:15] <tekk> even though the guest and host, are on different physical drives
[21:15] <phunyguy> 10gb??
[21:15] <tekk> machine has 32gb RAM total
[21:15] <tekk> after all guests have RAM allocated, there is 2.5GB free for host... (more than enough imho)
[21:16] <phunyguy> does the guest need 10 gigs?
[21:16] <tekk> yes
[21:16] <phunyguy> oh wait its more than one
[21:16] <tekk> from time to time
[21:16] <tekk> yeah, about 5 guests
[21:16] <tekk> but only this 1 guest is causing the host to fuck up
[21:16] <tekk> and i've tried kvm and virtualbox
[21:16] <tekk> same issue
[21:16] <phunyguy> !language | tekk
[21:17] <tekk> doesn't happen if i use FreeBSD for the guest... as it behaves differently
[21:17] <tekk> but happens if i use debian/ubuntu for guest
[21:17] <openelec> !language | tekk
[21:17] <tekk> (ubuntu host)
[21:17] <openelec> !language|tekk
[21:17] <ethana3> i'm going to try to download a version of memtest that supports my cpu (5, still in alpha).. but I think I tried that already and couldn't get it to boot from my flash drive
[21:17] <tekk> any ideas (so far i'm willing to try disabling swap on the HOST)
[21:18] <escott_> tekk, disabling swap on the host is just going to cause you to oom
[21:18] <holstein> tekk: i have used systems without swap before
[21:18] <tekk> if the host oom's though it will kill some stuff rather than panicing right
[21:18] <tekk> ?
[21:18] <escott_> tekk, thats the idea
[21:19] <tekk> perhaps i should try disabling swap on the guest first
[21:19] <tekk> swapoff -a should do it
[21:19] <tekk> i've turned off nested-paging now also
[21:19] <escott_> tekk, there are also some special drivers for ubuntu guest on ubuntu host. things like balloon drivers and page sharing. you might check if those are enabled
[21:19] <tekk> good point
[21:20] <tekk> if enabled... perhaps thats whats causing the issue
[21:20] <tekk> as FreeBSD is the only guest that has no issues... I use that guest in "generic" mode though... no host support
[21:20] <CamelKing96> hi! I'm a Xubuntu user with 512Mb of ram. Sombody know how to optimize it? (I've just OC the CPU from 1.8 to 2.25Ghz)
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> what's OC ?
[21:21] <CamelKing96> Overclock
[21:22] <tekk> CamelKing96, if running any daemons, you can tune them for higher CPU or memory usage
[21:22] <tekk> i.e. mysql / mail etc
[21:22] <holstein> CamelKing96: i wouldnt do anything. i would just use the system and see how you like it "as-is"... for me, the hard drive is usually a bottle neck
[21:22] <Mathias> CamelKing96: old system?
[21:23] <CamelKing96> i've heard about Zram, somebody know it?
[21:23] <CamelKing96> not very old system: economic system :D
[21:28] <ethana3> well, no checksums were provided for these alpha memtest .iso's, but the USB startup disk creator says they "don't match".. I'm going to try to boot off of it anyways
[21:30] <tekk> right, swap off done... will let you know how it goes :)
[21:30] <Gigy> ciao
[21:31] <bastidrazor> i am out :(
[21:31] <Gigy> scusate come si andava nella stanza dove si parla italiano?
[21:32] <Gigy> chi parla italiano?
[21:32] <stojic> Gigy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ItalianTeam
[21:32] <shomon> qua
[21:33] <shomon> peró c'é una chat dedicata a italiani
[21:33] <Gigy> ok grazie
[21:35] <dd444> how do i set up a vpn?
[21:35] <holstein> !vpn
[21:35] <Martinjo84> dd444: openvpn
[21:37] <dd444> seem to b having probs with it on win8
[21:38] <brum_> which is the recommended way of installing skype on ubuntu? it seems the two alternatives are using the statically built package from skype.com or using the one from the ubuntu partner repository
[21:39] <aurohurd> !skype | brum_
[21:41] <brum_> aurohurd: the wiki doesn't really give any pros/cons for using the static vs dynamic build
[21:41] <aurohurd> brum_: sorry, i only know of the link, i don't use skype
[21:41] <brum_> okay
[21:42] <ethana3> Is there a way to just "dd" an .iso file to a 4GB flash drive and have it work?
[21:42] <aurohurd> ethana3: it works with 11.10 and above
[21:42] <escott_> ethana3, depends on your bios
[21:42] <escott_> ethana3, and how the iso is designed
[21:43] <ethana3> it's the beta 6 from this page http://forum.canardpc.com/threads/68001-NEW-%21%21-Memtest86-5.00-Beta-6-available-%21-Need-betatesters-%21 and my bios/eufi is the latest one for this ASRock (B77?) mainboard
[21:44] <ethana3> would the way to attempt that be to just "dd if=/path/path/file.iso of=/dev/sdb"
[21:44] <ethana3> or would I need to write it all 0's or 1's to it first somehow?
[21:45] <aurohurd> ethana3: yes, but you need to check with them weather the iso is designed for that
[21:45] <exarkun> after the last reboot of my dell inspiron 1545, glx is no longer available and unity is forced into 2d mode.  I have no clue what changed to cause this (I'm sure some packages got upgraded since the last reboot, I have no idea what, I just let package manager do its thing; I didn't do anything obvious like uninstall libmesa).  How do I fix it?
[21:45] <aurohurd> ethana3: no, dd would simply overwrite whatever was there
[21:46] <ethana3> aurohurd: is there a way to check whether the .iso is designed for it? also, I know dd would overwrite, but the remainder of the space on the flash drive could be anything and it wouldn't matter then, right?
[21:46] <exarkun> Xorg.log says "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)".  Which seems bogus, since there is not an nvidia video card in this laptop.
[21:47] <aurohurd> ethana3: yeah, it wouldn't matter then because all that would be seen is what was dd-ed
[21:47] <ethana3> aurohurd: I'm going to give this a shot
[21:47] <useless-eater> can anyone point me to a netinstall.img that I can dd to a usb stick for installing ubuntu-server? cannot find it on webpage
[21:47] <aurohurd> ethana3: you'd have to ask them if they have a hybrid iso that allows to simply dd it
[21:48] <aurohurd> !mini | useless-eater
[21:49] <useless-eater> aurohurd: I dont have cd.  This way I can use a usb stick?
[21:49] <ethana3> aurohurd: i just dd'ed it over, if this doesn't work, i'll sign up on their forums and ask for a hybrid .iso
[21:49]  * ethana3 reboots
[21:49] <aurohurd> useless-eater: yes, the iso can be dd-ed to a usb stick (11.10 upwards are hybrid isos)
[21:50] <useless-eater> aurohurd: oh, thats good.
[21:53] <DX099> useless-eater, be carefull to dd to the full /dev/sdx and not some /dev/sdxN partition.
[21:55] <useless-eater> DX099: dont worry, been using linux for years :)
[21:55] <useless-eater> DX099: just not ubuntu
[21:55] <Beatstreet> what's the program that repalced fdisk?
[21:55] <k1l> Beatstreet: gdisk?
[21:56] <DX099> useless-eater, I did that mistake myself, but good then :)
[21:57] <useless-eater> k1l: check out parted maybe?
[21:58] <Kardos> how do i make a bootable ubuntu usb, from fedora? the web manual has instructions for doing it from ubuntu using "usb-creator-kde".... which appears to be not in fedora's repos
[21:58] <k1l> Kardos: use unetbootin
[21:58] <k1l> Kardos: or "dd" the iso to a usbstick
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> Kardos  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[22:01] <Kardos> ahhh dd will do it eh?
[22:01] <Kardos> okay thanks :D
[22:07] <Beatstreet> can someone think of a reason that fdisk/sfdisk shows nothing?
[22:08] <holstein> Beatstreet: permissions
[22:08] <useless-eater> lol,  able to choose norwegian dvorak during install.  not bad not bad
[22:08] <aurohurd> Beatstreet: is it gpt?
[22:08] <Beatstreet> holstein - im root
[22:08] <useless-eater> Beatstreet: gpt dont work well with fdisk
[22:08] <Beatstreet> how do I list partitions with gpt?
[22:09] <escott_> Beatstreet, parted
[22:10] <Beatstreet> parted or gparted?
[22:10] <Seppoz> hello, i have 2 ports which i wanna build a switch upon
[22:10] <escott_> Beatstreet, they both use libparted
[22:10] <Seppoz> so i called brctl addbr br0 brctl addif br0 eth0 and brctl addif br0 eth1
[22:10] <Seppoz> should that be enough for a transparent bridge?
[22:11] <Beatstreet> so if OS was isntalled using parted then I wont e able to see with fdisk?
[22:12] <escott_> Beatstreet, just dont use fdisk. its old unmaintained software. this really isnt that hard
[22:12] <holstein> Beatstreet: what im reading is, GPT doesnt work well with fdisk.. its the type that is the issue, as i read it
[22:12] <Jpmh> I have a working system 10.4, works fine but it is clearly time to upgrade.  I have a "remastersys" made ISO which works GREAT on other systems.  Sadly this system has no working CD nor usb.  I can sftp in and out.  Is ther any way  I can take that iso and boot from it after installing it on that machine
[22:12] <k1l> Beatstreet: for gpt use gdisk
[22:12] <Beatstreet> escott - I'm just trying to list the partitions on a new OS install
[22:12] <escott_> holstein, GPT doesn't work with fdisk PERIOD. fdisk is junk forget about it
[22:13] <holstein> Beatstreet: ^^
[22:13] <escott_> Beatstreet, and you've been told to use parted. what is the problem? sudo parted -l
[22:13] <holstein> escott_: thanks
[22:13] <brightspark> gdisk is the GPT equivalent to fdisk
[22:13] <Beatstreet> logged in as root, parter -l list nothing as well
[22:14] <Beatstreet> logged in as root, parted -l list nothing as well
[22:14] <escott_> gdisk is a bit more than just "fdisk for gpt" for most cases parted is a better choice than gdisk
[22:14] <Beatstreet> why would both fdisk -l and parted -l show nothing, while logged in as root
[22:14] <escott_> Beatstreet, parted should show the disk and indicate it has no table
[22:15] <Beatstreet> parted -l is blank
[22:15] <escott_> Beatstreet, what about cat /proc/partitions
[22:16] <escott_> Beatstreet, instead of having parted scan all devices you can scan a particular device as well "sudo parted -l /dev/sda"
[22:17] <Beatstreet> cat /proc/mdstat shows partitions but "sudo parted -l /dev/sda" shows nothing
[22:18] <escott_> Beatstreet, what kind of md device? and why would you have a table on an md device?
[22:18] <Beatstreet> no RAIDs
[22:18] <jimi_> my xorg fails to start after upgrading. I can choose an older kernel and it works. I can't really see the error messages because it split my monitor into 4 tiny boxes
[22:18] <aurohurd> Beatstreet: do you have harddisks or are you dealing with sdcards?
[22:19] <Beatstreet> 2x2TB HDDs
[22:20] <escott_> Beatstreet, why are you looking at mdstat? what possible relationship does that have to partition tables?
[22:22] <Beatstreet> sorry, you said md device and I thought you meant raid
[22:23] <l_r> when will ubuntu 13.04 be out
[22:23] <l_r> second question: what is the version of boost lib now?
[22:23] <l_r> (in ubuntu 13.04beta)
[22:23] <escott_> !info libboost
[22:24] <iceroot> l_r: #ubuntu+1
[22:24] <escott_> !info libboost-all-dev
[22:24] <l_r> 1.49?????
[22:24] <escott_> !info libboost-all-dev quantal
[22:24] <l_r> come on
[22:24] <l_r> there's 1.53
[22:24] <l_r> pls upgrade
[22:24] <myersg> how do I fix this?
[22:24] <escott_> l_r, thanks! I'll hop right on that
[22:25] <myersg> Could not nd required OpenGL entry point 'glGetEooro'! Either your vido card is unsupported, or your OpenGL driver needs to be updated.
[22:25] <l_r> escott, no prob
[22:25] <Beatstreet> escott_ - logged in a root, fdisk -l shows nothing, parted -l shows nothing, parted -l /dev/sda shows nothing but cat /proc/partitions show 4 partitions per disk (2 drives so 8 partitions)
[22:25] <l_r> escott, will you do the job?
[22:25] <sam101> hello guys i would like to know how do i install ruby on ubunty
[22:25] <sam101> on terminal
[22:29] <escott_> Beatstreet, the kernel may not have been appraised of a change in partition tables. a partprobe should get /proc/partitions in sync with sudo parted -l and cause your md devices to crash
[22:30] <anathem> sam101: sudo apt-get install ruby
[22:30] <Beatstreet> ok escott_ - running partprobe
[22:32] <escott_> l_r, this is a volunteer run support channel. most people in channel (including myself) have no connection with canonical (or debian) so no i won't do anything about it, because this is not the right forum for your complaints
[22:33] <sam101> anathem: thanks
[22:35] <escott_> myersg, have you tried installing proprietary graphics drivers?
[22:36] <oscailt> Does anyone know if the Realtek "RTL8723AE-BT", wireless driver is working in Ubuntu 13.04
[22:38] <Beatstreet> escott_ - partprobe did nothing
[22:39] <escott_> Beatstreet, can you paste the output of "mount; cat /proc/partitions; parted -l; dmesg | tail -n 100" to paste.ubuntu.com
[22:40] <Beatstreet> ok
[22:40] <escott_> Beatstreet, can you paste the output of "partprobe; mount; cat /proc/partitions; parted -l; dmesg | tail -n 100" to paste.ubuntu.com
[22:43] <FolhaSeca> does anyone know if there is a file i can edit in order to manipulate tcp ports, rather than using commands? I've been trying to open some tcp ports, unsuccessfully. We have three interfaces in that box, with snort/barnyard set up, bu we don't seem to be getting connectivity between the inside network and our DMZ, eventhough our DMZ hits the cloud. We think it might be a port issue. We have been trying to set up splunk
[22:44] <MartynKeigher> hey so installed wordpress on a ubuntu serevr (@ <IP_ADDRESS>). its located in /var/www/mkeigher, so to get to my site i have to go to <IP_ADDRESS>/mkeigher. but how can i get to it by just going straight to <IP_ADDRESS> ??  thanks
[22:44] <Whiskey`Wonka> MartynKeigher: you need to move the site up a level
[22:45] <Whiskey`Wonka> or do a redirect
[22:45] <MartynKeigher> i prefer the redirect, coz i eventuallyw ant to have a few sites out of the /var/www/ folder. how do i do a redirect?
[22:46] <Whiskey`Wonka> google html page redirect
[22:46] <Whiskey`Wonka> but in this case just use vhosts
[22:46] <Whiskey`Wonka> make it mkeigher.local
[22:47] <MartynKeigher> make the folder /var/www/mkeigher.local ??
[22:48] <escott_> FolhaSeca, you should be modifying the rules files, not doing it by iptables commands
[22:48] <D49L> sdf
[22:48] <escott_> FolhaSeca, the commands are just for the initial setup, then you need to export the rules and save them to /etc/something (for instance /etc/ufw/rules.d if you are  using ufw)
[22:49] <Whiskey`Wonka> MartynKeigher: no, make a vhost called that, then also add that to your hosts file or your dns
[22:49] <Beatstreet> escott_ > http://paste.ubuntu.com/5644809/
[22:49] <MartynKeigher> yeah my apache is not great! ;) didnt know what you meant. i will look into it! thanks!
[22:50] <Whiskey`Wonka> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts
[22:50] <trueneu_> Hi guys. Is there any way I can find out which processes are attached to a given shared memory segment on Ubuntu?
[22:50] <MartynKeigher> thank you! :)
[22:50] <Whiskey`Wonka> no problem
[22:50] <FolhaSeca> escott_: thank you so much, I will look into that. We have snort set up to bridge two of the interfaces, it's been "working" since the dmz hits the cloud, but we can't get our dmz to hit the inside, which is where the splunk server is
[22:50] <Whiskey`Wonka> Ok im going nuts, remote desktop access doesnt work if i do not have a user logged in??
[22:51] <MartynKeigher> nice guide there! could have done with this about 5 hours ago! ;)
[22:52] <MartynKeigher> Thanks wonka!
[22:52] <Whiskey`Wonka> MartynKeigher: no problem
[22:52] <escott_> Beatstreet, the kernel will (presumably) refuse to update a table if it removes an active device. you would have to umount sda2 and sda4 before partprobe will do anything
[22:52] <escott_> sdb2 and sda4 rather
[22:52] <Beatstreet> ok
[22:52] <Beatstreet> trying that
[22:53] <escott_> Beatstreet, you also aren't properly booted which suggests that something went wrong during the boot
[22:53] <Beatstreet> how's that?
[22:53] <escott_> Beatstreet, you dont have a root device mounted
[22:56] <Beatstreet> escott_ > http://paste.ubuntu.com/5644819/
[22:57] <escott_> Beatstreet, yes. as i said you dont have your root device mounted. rootfs is the initial root filesystem image included in the initrd
[22:57] <Beatstreet> thinking a OS relaod is needed
[22:57] <douglasPonciano> Hello!
[22:57] <k1l> Beatstreet: what is this hardware?
[22:58] <douglasPonciano> Please, how can we install some Nintendo 64 emulator?
[22:58] <escott_> Beatstreet, i dont think you realize how deep a hole you are in at the moment
[22:58] <douglasPonciano> I can't find anyone on Ubuntu Software Center...
[22:58] <escott_> Beatstreet, by all appearances your hard disks are failing and your partition table has been damaged. your root filesystem is for some reason unmountable
[22:59] <escott_> Beatstreet, you need to boot your install media and see if you can recover from there
[22:59] <Beatstreet> escott_ - reloading OS
[22:59] <Beatstreet> see how it goes
[22:59] <Beatstreet> thanks
[22:59] <douglasPonciano> Would someone help me?
[23:01] <KI4RO> .
[23:02] <NeedBasicHelpWit> i am trying to setup a raid beside my windows partition. Basically, i have a 120 and a 160 gb harddrive on this laptop, with my windows installation on a 40 gigabyte partition on the 160, thus leaving two 120 gigabyte disks available for striping.
[23:02] <one> I can't play N64 on Ubuntu. :/
[23:02] <NeedBasicHelpWit> is this possible?
[23:02] <NeedBasicHelpWit> one: mupen64?
[23:03] <one> NeedBasicHelpWit, It could be... Do you know how to install it?
[23:03] <escott_> NeedBasicHelpWit, yes
[23:03] <NeedBasicHelpWit> one: have you used it before?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> !info mupen64plus | NeedBasicHelpWit
[23:04] <NeedBasicHelpWit> escott_: Is it a matter of partitioning the drives first, setting up a raid, and then partitioning them again?
[23:04] <one> Long time ago... I just installed it from the Ubuntu Software Center I guess.
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> NeedBasicHelpWit: try searching a little, instead of immediately asking for clarification
[23:04] <one> NeedBasicHelpWit, But now I can't get it running... Would you help me please?
[23:05] <NeedBasicHelpWit> one: I havnt dabbled with it recently. A good place to look might be tasvideos.org
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> one ^
[23:05] <escott_> NeedBasicHelpWit, partition. then create raid. i would not personally partition an md device. you might use LVM on top of mdadm if thats your desire
[23:05] <one> I'm taking a look, thanks. :)
[23:06] <escott_> NeedBasicHelpWit, and keep in mind that /boot needs to be outside the array
[23:06] <NeedBasicHelpWit> one: unfortunately, emulation is far from perfect. I have yet to see an n64 game play rogue squadron.
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> NeedBasicHelpWit: I played majoras mask in muppen64, runs well :)
[23:06] <jaya_> Hello
[23:06] <jaya_> Anyone can help ?
[23:06] <escott_> NeedBasicHelpWit, (unless its pure RAID1 in which case grub can boot a raid1 member as a raw device and initrd bring the other device online into the mirror
[23:06] <jaya_> Unable to open gedit
[23:07] <k1l_> !details | jaya_
[23:07] <jaya_> in terminal
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> NeedBasicHelpWit: the Silent Hill you can buy for the PC is just Bleem with an ISO of the PS1 game which made me chuckle
[23:07] <useless-eater> jaya_: aptitude install vim ;)
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> jaya_: run:    gedit      what is output
[23:07] <NeedBasicHelpWit> escott_: interesting; so boot loader can be on a raid 1?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> useless-eater: aptitude isn't installed by default
[23:07] <jaya_> (gedit:1815): EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported
[23:07] <jaya_> **
[23:07] <jaya_> GLib-GIO:ERROR:/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.26.0/gio/gdbusconnection.c:2270:initable_init: assertion failed: (connection->initialization_error == NULL)
[23:07] <jaya_> Aborted
[23:08] <jaya_> this is what i get when i try to use gedit
[23:08] <one> NeedBasicHelpWit, Pity... But games I like will run fine I guess... I just hope I get it installed. Thanks for this page. :)
[23:08] <useless-eater> NeedBasicHelpWit: boot can be on raid1
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> jaya_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue


[15:23] <KettleCooked> I'm following tutorials on daemonizing my node.js webserver for my Debian distro - I'm at the point where I'm suggested to install upstart. I'm now guessing that would replace sysvinit and it says it'll be "potentially harmful". Is it safe to do an apt-get install upstart on a Debian Squeeze distro or should I expect hell to break loose?
[15:43] <JanC> KettleCooked: I have never tried upstart in Debian (you could try in a virtual machine if you want)
[15:44] <JanC> but I suppose that warning is mostly there because it's not well-tested in Debian yet
[15:56] <KettleCooked> gonna try virtual