[02:55] <Jucato> jermain: in Konsole can you check: ls -l ~/.bashrc
[02:55] <jermain> The document could not be save, as it was not possible to write to blah blah
[02:55] <jermain> k
[02:55] <Jucato> see who owns the file
[02:56] <Jucato> er... what's the complete error message?
[02:56] <jermain> no
[02:56] <BluesKaj> he needs to open it with the kdesu kate command if he wants to save an edit
[02:56] <jermain> after that it says
[02:56] <keito> CharlieKane: how do I do that?
[02:56] <jermain> i have to check if i have write acces
[02:56] <Jucato> BluesKaj: possibly... but the fact still remains that he should have permissions for his own bashrc right?
[02:57] <ardchoille> Jucato: The permissions on that file can change to root in some instances if he's been using "sudo (gui app)"
[02:57] <BluesKaj> Jucato, if i rememder correctly i needed to use the runbox with permissions to edit
[02:57] <CharlieKane> keito: In Amarok click on 'settings' > 'configure amarok' > 'engine' (and tell me what your settings are)
[02:57] <Jucato> bu then again, I never run sudo GUI app
[02:57] <Jucato> CharlieKane: you'll only get shouted at too
[02:57] <ardchoille> Jucato: Any $HOME file can be affected by that.
[02:58] <jermain> jucato: its rw - r - r - l jermain jermain 2227
[02:58] <keito> xine eng, autodetect, stereo 2.0
[02:58] <keito> CharlieKane: ^^
[02:58] <jermain> is there a way for me to add it from the console?
[02:58] <CharlieKane> keito: ok
[02:59] <CharlieKane> keito: well thats fine like that
[02:59] <keito> CharlieKane: any other ideas?
[03:00] <keito> CharlieKane: purge xine & amarok settings perhaps?
[03:01] <CharlieKane> keito: nah
[03:01] <jermain> jucator: is there some way for me to establish root while in a text editor?
[03:01] <jermain> (prefereably kate)
[03:01] <keito> CharlieKane: there's gotta be a way to get the same settings for this user as the new user has?
[03:01] <ardchoille> jermain: You can do: kdesu kate filename
[03:01] <CharlieKane> keito: try installing libxine1-ffmpeg (it supports a variety of audio formats as well as video and it a plugin for xine based players)
[03:02] <jermain> i will try that thanks
[03:03] <keito> CharlieKane: already got
[03:03] <CharlieKane> keito: hmm ok
[03:04] <jermain> ardchoille: i did "sudo kdesu kate /root/.bashrc"
[03:04] <ardchoille> jermain: No, just "kdesu kate filename", no sudo
[03:04] <jermain> but i got 2 bad device errors and the 3rd says it cant connect to X server
[03:05] <jermain> oh, okay
[03:05] <Jucato> um... why /root/.bashrc ?!
[03:05] <ardchoille> jermain: Why are you editing root's bashrc?
[03:05] <jermain> isnt that where im supposed to add the set path line?
[03:05] <ardchoille> no
[03:05] <jermain> o.O
[03:05] <Jucato> no... that's not *your* bashrc
[03:05] <jermain> ><
[03:05] <Jucato> I asked earlier if you were editing ~/.bashrc remember?
[03:05] <ardchoille> jermain: you need to edit ~/.bashrc
[03:05] <CharlieKane> keito: got plain ffmpeg installed from the medibuntu repository ?
[03:05] <jermain> argh
[03:05] <keito> CharlieKane: it *can't* be package related if it works for another user surely (am I being stupid here or what?).  this *has* to be a config related issue that is related to this specific user (hence purging the xine/amarok settings idea)
[03:06] <jermain> i see
[03:06] <Jucato> ardchoille: so it wasn't caused by wrong usage of sudo after all :P
[03:06] <CharlieKane> keito: ok
[03:06] <keito> CharlieKane: I'm confused ! lol
[03:06] <ardchoille> Jucato: I see that, was just a guess.
[03:06] <CharlieKane> keito: yeah I'm not sure whats going on there
[03:06] <keito> CharlieKane: not sure about ffmpeg 2secs
[03:07] <ardchoille> jermain: That's ok, we all had to start somewhere
[03:07] <jermain> ardchoille, jucato: it works
[03:07] <jermain> thanks guys :)
[03:07] <jermain> :)
[03:08] <Jucato> by the tail?
[03:08] <ardchoille> jermain: I've been using *buntu since Warty was released and have never had to edit a file in root's $HOME
[03:09] <CharlieKane> keito: maybe try starting Amarok from a terminal and see if any useful information comes up
[03:09] <jermain> im of the feisty generation =3
[03:09] <CharlieKane> keito: whatcha doo ?
[03:09] <keito> right you guys wanna know how?
[03:09] <CharlieKane> yes
[03:09] <jermain> keito, did you solve it?
[03:09] <keito> yes
[03:09] <keito> purge settings lol
[03:09] <CharlieKane> keito: cool...  (Since i've upgraded to version 2.6.22-12 (Ubuntu Feisty))
[03:11] <jermain> ill try it later today
[03:11] <keito> I'm ecstatic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:11] <CharlieKane> keito: brilliant
[03:11] <ScorpKing> i got a bigger hd for my laptop. how can i dd the old disk to the new one? if i nfs mount my server and try to dd onto it i get "permission denied" no matter what user i am. looks like dd to nfs don't work.
[03:11] <CharlieKane> :)
[03:12] <keito> 80)
[03:12] <keito> jermain: give it a go, it should fix it
[03:12] <CharlieKane> keito: well anyway... ffmpeg is good to keep anyhow ;)
[03:12] <unwise> help me please, i just installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu7.04 and now i cannot find my windows partition in kde
[03:13] <CharlieKane> unwise: got ntfs-3g installed ?
[03:13] <djd92l> @unwise: did you typed in the partition in the /etc/fstab?
[03:13] <unwise> nope, all i did was install kubuntu-desktop
[03:14] <unwise> how do i do this fstab?
[03:14] <unwise> my disk works fine under gnome
[03:14] <CharlieKane> gtg
[03:14] <CharlieKane> bbl
[03:14] <djd92l> unwise: Filesystem?
[03:14] <CPrompt^> hey, this morning Adept said there was an update and when I "fetched" the updates it said that it was a Major upgrade.  I'm running Feisty now so...what is this?
[03:14] <unwise> NTFS for XP
[03:15] <djd92l> ok, then you've to install ntfs-3g like CharlieKane already said..
[03:15] <keito> unwise: do sudo fdisk -l
[03:15] <ardchoille> CPrompt^: It might have been the recent kernel upgrade and there was a recent kde upgrade
[03:15] <djd92l> then, you've to check up the fstab (See Ubuntuusers.de)
[03:16] <ScorpKing> see http://www.linux-faqs.com/faq/misc/ntfs.php for ntfs info
[03:16] <keito> surely ntfs-3g is for *writing* to ntfs... ubuntu should read NTFS out-of-the-box?!
[03:17] <ScorpKing> it does
[03:17] <keito> it just needs mounting?
[03:17] <Jucato> should, but by default only as root
[03:17] <ScorpKing> yes
[03:17] <djd92l> keito: yes, you're right... my fault *gg*
[03:17] <keito> you can mount without editing fstab?
[03:17] <Jucato> I mean if you just sudo mount blahblah
[03:17] <ScorpKing> depends how it's mounted
[03:17] <keito> fstab just automounts?!
[03:17] <BluesKaj> CPrompt^, yes there was a fairly large upgrade this morning , of course depending on your installation
[03:17] <djd92l> yes: sudo mount -t ntfs <partition> <destinationPATH>
[03:18] <ScorpKing> add -o uid=1000,gid=1000 to that
[03:18] <ScorpKing> after ntfs
[03:18] <keito> djd92l: don't you need to sudo mkdir /media/pathname first?
[03:18] <CPrompt^> BluesKaj : i did recently upgrade to the new kernel so that might be it
[03:18] <djd92l> you can mount it anywhere you like
[03:19] <keito> djd92l: yeah but doesn't it have to exist first or will it create the path in that command?
[03:19] <sputnikrock> Is it known that there might be problems with downloading kubuntu by bittorrent?
[03:19] <sputnikrock> (new beta)
[03:19] <djd92l> it must exist.
[03:19] <unwise> okay, so now u got me all confused ;)
[03:19] <keito> djd92l: sudo mkdir first then
[03:19] <BluesKaj> ntfs-config is a handy app..gives read write capabliity to windows partitions
[03:19] <unwise> i did install this ntfs-3g hofever
[03:20] <ScorpKing> unwise: see the link i posted. it's all on there
[03:20] <unwise> ok, thanks :)
[03:20] <keito> BluesKaj: its cool but my ntfs is classed as a dirty drive (bad windows) now I have to forcemount it lol
[03:20] <djd92l> *gg*
[03:20] <keito> GG ;0)
[03:21] <keito> well peeps I'm gonna roll on outta here and play some forza2.  peace love & the rest
[03:22] <ScorpKing> c ya
[03:22] <ScorpKing> anyone have an idea how i can dd my old laptop disk to the new one?
[03:23] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: you need http://www.sysresccd.org  it has partimag on it and it rocks
[03:23] <clso> i have a epson stylus c40-ux can anyone help me if there is a compatible driver for this printer in ubuntu... thx
[03:24] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: partimage only copies the used portion of the disk
[03:24] <cicch> hep me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:24] <ScorpKing> ardchoille: that will be most of it. lol. thanks
[03:24] <ardchoille> ScorpKing: lol
[03:25] <unwise> wow, i didnt know write support for ntfs was so tricky
[03:26] <unwise> i always thought it was already there..
[03:26] <Jucato> hm?? what can be trickier than using ntfs-3g?
[03:28] <BluesKaj> what's the latest kernel for feisty , <IP_ADDRESS>  ?
[03:28] <ardchoille> 2.6.20-16 is what I have and I'm updated
[03:29] <jermain> well, im going off. Thank for the help everyone!
[03:29] <unwise> ScorpKing: i read the link you sent me and mounted my ntfs but i cant seem to enter the folder
[03:30] <ScorpKing> unwise: do you have read permission on the folder and did you mount it with -o uid=1000,gid=1000 ?
[03:30] <BluesKaj> right , thx ardchoille...I see newer one <IP_ADDRESS> on http://www.kernel.org/...I guess that's for adventurous kernel builders
[03:30] <unwise> SkorpKing: i did mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -r
[03:31] <unwise> SkorpKing: i created the folder myself so i should be able to read it shouldnt i
[03:31] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: iirc, when it ends in an odd number, it's a devel release
[03:32] <ScorpKing> unwise: sudo mount -t ntfs -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
[03:32] <unwise> ScorpKing: i think i need to unmount first...
[03:32] <ScorpKing> unwise: yes and do a  ls -l /mnt/
[03:33] <ScorpKing> unwise: and make sure you can read on that folder
[03:33] <unwise> ScorpKing: yea! now i can access it all, thank you so much!
[03:33] <ScorpKing> np :D
[03:35] <ghozala> hay i cant find my hp printer driver from the list and i tried near models not working what can i do
[03:36] <genii> ghozala: what is the model?
[03:36] <ghozala> hp laser 1020
[03:37] <unwise> ScorpKing: just wondering.. is this sustainable or do i have to mount my ntfs again once i reboot
[03:37] <genii> ghozala: That one does Postscript, perhaps set it up for Generic Postscript printer
[03:38] <ScorpKing> unwise: if you add it to /etc/fstab it will mount at boot
[03:38] <ScorpKing> unwise: how to do that is on that link. here is another one...
[03:38] <ghozala> donnu but it is  a normal usb laserjet
[03:38] <ScorpKing> !ntfs
[03:38] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:44] <clso> i have a epson stylus c40-ux can anyone help me if there is a compatible driver for this printer in ubuntu... thx
[03:46] <genii> ghozala: On further investigation, this printer does do Postscript but it is whats called "host-based", relying on the MS Windows GDI system for much of it's work. This may be difficult to find a linux driver for
[03:46] <dwidmann> Hmm, does anyone know why gruband linux might pick up my hard drives "out of order" (order being the order that they're in in bios)?
[03:46] <khaije> clso: with epson, your chances are good of finding something, have you tried googling?
[03:47] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: some bios'es have the option to change the hd order. it might be that
[03:48] <dwidmann> aggggggh, ever since correcting the time, I can't use sudo :(
[03:48] <khaije> clso: for example http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_C40UX
[03:49] <khaije> clso: google is your friend
[03:49] <clso> gonna see
[03:49] <clso> google is my enemy haha
[03:49] <clso> i tried install it 30 times i think in 5 months
[03:50] <clso> recommended driver gutenprint hum...
[03:50] <clso> it is in relation with ubuntu?
[03:50] <khaije> clso: it says it is supported perfectly by gutenprint, nothing is easy, but if it is really difficult you're probably doing it wrong
[03:51] <khaije> clso: do you know how to install software from repo?
[03:51] <clso> no.............. :$
[03:52] <clso> i remember that appeared an error installing that driver
[03:52] <clso> gonna try another one...
[03:52] <genii> ghozala: A howto for the 1020 on feisty here:  http://benaiah41.wordpress.com/2007/07/06/installing-a-hp-laserjet-1020-on-ubuntu-feisty/
[03:53] <dwidmann> scorpkingk: it seems to tentatively obey that. This gives me a headache.
[03:53] <ScorpKing> lol
[03:53] <khaije> clso: in your start menu there should be an option for add/remove programs, just open that and search for gutenprint, then install, and possibly reboot
[03:54] <clso> oki thx
[03:54] <ardchoille> khaije: Why reboot?
[03:54] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: IIRC from past horrible experiences, that controls which ones MBR it reads, but in linux it will still have them out of order (hurray for UUI"
[03:55] <dwidmann> **UUIDs)
[03:55] <khaije> ardchoille: in case it loaded an incorrect driver when the correct one wasn't available
[03:55] <clso> no results...
[03:55] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: i was about to say maybe the partition table or something in menu.lst :D
[03:55] <khaije> clso: also make sure to get escputil - it's for managing epson printers
[03:56] <clso> escputil
[03:56] <khaije> ardchoille: not strickly necessary, of course
[03:56] <tsb> How stable is the new kubuntu beta release? I realize a few things might break, but I wouldn't want to end up with a non-working xorg etc..
[03:56] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: so long as I eventually get it straight in menu.lst, I don't really care if I actually resolve the problem
[03:57] <khaije> clso: ya i just saw that in a search of available programs in the repo
[03:57] <dwidmann> Anyhow, it can wait to later, I need to play video games.
[03:57] <ardchoille> tsb: Gutsy will be released on the 18th of next month
[03:57] <clso> installing escputil and gutenprint-locales
[03:57] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: the UUID seems to be the problem. do it the old way.
[03:57] <tsb> ardchoille: does that mean it will ship 3.5.8?
[03:57] <khaije> clso: read over the descriptions of the gutenprint packages, you'll probably need more than just locales
[03:58] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: nah, not in this case, in fact, the UUID is what saves my fstab from a world of trouble
[03:58] <AV1611> greeting at all!
[03:58] <ardchoille> tsb: 3.5.7 I think
[03:58] <AV1611> does anybody know the full size of the 7.10 sofware pool, how 'rich' it is?
[03:59] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: instead of using the UUID use /dev/hd*1 in menu.lst and fstab
[03:59] <tsb> ardchoille: okay well packages will be made avaliable soon enough nonetheless I guess.
[03:59] <Tm_T> AV1611: what you mean exactly?
[03:59] <dwidmann> Really, really big, 20k+ packages
[03:59] <AV1611> the former was as much as 14-15GB, what about the next one?
[03:59] <Tm_T> same pretty much
[03:59] <AV1611> what is the size of /ubuntu/pool/
[03:59] <AV1611> ?
[03:59] <clso> khaije, after that it could appear in the assistant install printer?
[03:59] <dwidmann> ScorpKing: ah, nevermind it, like I said, FEAR is waiting for me.
[03:59] <AV1611> just wonder...
[03:59] <khaije> clso: you might also want cupsys-driver-gutenprint and foomatic-db-gutenprint
[03:59] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: lol
[04:00] <clso> yeah im installing that too
[04:00] <ScorpKing> that will fix it tho
[04:00] <AV1611> I mean all the sections: universe, multiverse....
[04:00] <Tm_T> dwidmann: you should fear me ;)
[04:00] <ScorpKing> we know Tm_T :P how goes?
[04:00] <Tm_T> slowly goes
[04:01] <ScorpKing> haha
[04:01] <clso> ok thanks ill be back in a moment
[04:01] <Tm_T> upgrading to gutsy
[04:01] <khaije> clso: there is a lot that happens automatically, it seems likely this will be all you need, but if it doesn't work right away then hope isn't lost :-)
[04:01] <AV1611> what are the noted software addition among those 20K?
[04:01] <ScorpKing> i'm not sure if my laptop will handle Gusty
[04:01] <AV1611> i meant: additions
[04:01] <BluesKaj> AV1611, there are numerous repos with various apps , it's pretty difficult pin down a number
[04:01] <AV1611> the main one!
[04:01] <Tm_T> AV1611: KDE4 betas perhaps?
[04:01] <AV1611> is it alreday there?
[04:01] <AV1611> already
[04:02] <ScorpKing> yes, universe i think
[04:02] <BluesKaj> gutsy & some beta
[04:03] <dwidmann> scorpking: not really, because every time I plug in another drive the sd** is rearranged, never know what I'll get next, but the UUID is consistent.
[04:03] <nerv203> Hello! I'm back again, with a minor issue.
[04:03] <AV1611> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse
[04:03] <ScorpKing> dwidmann: true
[04:03] <AV1611> that is the pool I wonder of its size about...
[04:04] <AV1611> oops, gutsy
[04:04] <nerv203> I keep getting an error message whenever I use the sudo command for anything. It doesn't interrupt the Sudo command, and it doesn't seem to have an observable effect on anything else so I'm not too worried.
[04:04] <AV1611> I pasted a line of sources.list
[04:04] <nerv203> But it, basically, says that there are two unregistered devices. Does anyone have the link to that debugging website where I can paste it to?
[04:04] <crazy_bus> ubuntu 7.10 beta release notes mention compiz by default.  Is kubuntu 7.10 missing out on this?
[04:05] <nerv203> Nevermind, I found it :)
[04:07] <ScorpKing> nerv203: have a link for that?
[04:07] <nerv203> http://pastebin.com/m6324726a
[04:07] <ScorpKing> thanks
[04:07] <ScorpKing> o
[04:08] <nerv203> Oh, if you wanted the site I used it's just http://pastebin.com
[04:08] <nerv203> Can anyone look at that post and tell me what's wrong?
[04:08] <ScorpKing> no i thought you had a fix for it. i get that to
[04:08] <ScorpKing> too*
[04:09] <nerv203> I am assuming it's just the keyboard or mouse as they are generic Plug and Play things, I never installed drivers for them.
[04:09] <nerv203> They work fine, as I said, but I keep getting that error... I haven't added any ther hardware recently, or well, ever.
[04:09] <nerv203> I am getting some brand new shiny RAM soon :)
[04:10] <blubb> anyone knows how I could increase that timeout of wpa_supplicant: Authentication with 00:18:39:ab:30:96 timed out. ?
[04:10] <nerv203> Well, when I say brand new I mean second hand, and by shiny I mean modest, but it's better than 256 >.>
[04:13] <clso> khaije, printer installed succesfully
[04:13] <clso> Thanks very much
[04:15] <khaije> clso: cool!
[04:18] <clso> ieah
[04:18] <clso> now im going to see the howtos to build a print server
[04:19] <clso> i think this will be more interesting ^
[04:20] <khaije> cups! | clso
[04:20] <khaije> oops :)
[04:21] <clso> xD
[04:21] <khaije> !cups | clso
[04:21] <ubotu> clso: Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:21] <khaije> clso: good place to start ^^
[04:22] <clso> ^^
[04:22] <ScorpKing> good luck tho :)
[04:29] <ScorpKing> here is the link to fix the "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168" we all seem to get - http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7964.0;topicseen
[04:30] <ScorpKing> i've seen lots of complains about that. :)
[04:33] <crazy_bus> how do I use @SIG@ on the kubuntu wiki.  it just stays like that if I put it at the end of my message
[04:33] <llutz> ScorpKing: they learned and commented it out in gutsy :)
[04:34] <ScorpKing> hmmm. it's bout time. :)
[04:37] <felipe__> hi
[04:37] <deviance> I've lost a CD I had, but I still have the case, would it be legal to download the cd again?
[04:37] <deviance> Just wondering :P
[04:37] <llutz> deviance: i would say Yes, musicindustry indeed says NEVER
[04:37] <RurouniJones> NEIN!
[04:37] <genii> deviance: Technically no
[04:37] <RurouniJones> YOU HAF VOVEITED ZE RIGHT!!?!?!?!!
[04:37] <deviance> Really?
[04:38] <RurouniJones> Not go be a good consumer and buy another one, hup hup!

[04:38] <deviance> Hmm, well RIAA can screw themselves, Im brittish
[04:38] <RurouniJones> That is the spirit
[04:39] <RurouniJones> Although the BP..whatever it is called will be knocking on yer door ;)
[04:39] <Jucato> !offtopic
[04:39] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:40] <deviance> RurouniJones: Whats BP?  :P
[04:43] <ScorpKing> anyone have an idea how i can dd my old laptop disk to the new one?
[04:44] <ScorpKing> i can only have one disk in at a time and i don't have a cd-rw in my laptop.
[04:44] <llutz> ScorpKing: external disk?
[04:44] <genii> ScorpKing: take them both out, get 2 laptop to regular IDe cable adapters. Plug em in and do it that way with desktop
[04:44] <ScorpKing> i do have a nfs server tho
[04:45] <ScorpKing> genii: none available in the next few days.
[04:45] <ScorpKing> llutz: don't have one
[04:45] <ardchoille> Can you dd over the network?
[04:46] <genii> ardchoille: Yes, it's possible
[04:46] <ScorpKing> it says i don't have permissions to write, even as root
[04:46] <ScorpKing> with nfs-mount
[04:46] <ScorpKing> genii: how?
[04:48] <ScorpKing> uhm, brb
[04:49] <deviance> Oh an update to the release updater.
[04:49] <deviance> I think they are getting ready for Feisty with all these KDE, KDM, Kernal and so on updates
[04:50] <genii> ScorpKing: boot both to livecd, assign static compatible IPs. /etc/exports has dev name not mount point of destination for dd. mount ad dd over from second box
[04:53] <genii> ScorpKing: Also /etc/exports has similar to: maproot=<IP of second box>
[04:54] <Xeross> Hey
[04:55] <genii> ScorpKing: Make sure to umount so they sync
[04:56] <abdelhadi> arabic
[04:57] <ScorpKing> genii: thanks, that should work. :D
[04:58] <genii> scorpking: /etc/exports share is just /dev     not /dev/sdX or so. then when you mount you see on 2nd box all the devnames. so of=/mntpoint/sdX   in the dd on that one
[05:00] <ScorpKing> genii: i'm still trying to figure out how i'm gonna boot my server from a cd. doesn't have one and only 94MB RAM. maybe one of the old ubuntu disks will do.
[05:01] <Xeross> can i install kubuntu (7.04) on a HDD where windows is installed on ?
[05:01] <ScorpKing> yes
[05:01] <Xeross> how
[05:01] <hsystem-x> Xeross, yes: dual boot
[05:02] <genii> ScorpKing: Yes, tricky :) The other box have a cd?
[05:02] <Xeross> ye
[05:02] <ScorpKing> genii: one is my laptop and one is a p1 server
[05:03] <hsystem-x> Xeross, you need to have 3 partitions, windows partition, / (ext3) , and a swap. The last two are for linux. Then when installing
[05:03] <genii> Xeross: The installer helps you do this when you run it. If Windows has all of the hard drive right now you can resize that part and put Kubuntu on the freed up space, and a small partition for swap
[05:04] <Xeross> k
[05:04] <Xeross> but does the installer alter the partitions?
[05:04] <genii> Xeross: It will resize them but not alter what is on there
[05:04] <Xeross> k
[05:04] <hsystem-x> the installer will modify the windows partition if you need to resize it.
[05:04] <Xeross> i have 2 partitions in windows
[05:05] <hsystem-x> only alter the size.
[05:05] <Xeross> k
[05:05] <Xeross> downloading the dvd now
[05:05] <Xeross> and another question, will my sweex wireless usb stick work with it
[05:05] <hsystem-x> depends.
[05:06] <hsystem-x> if you want to be sure, just boot from livecd, with the usb stick plugged.
[05:06] <genii> Xeross: If you have NTFS filesystems on there, make sure to run from windows first, the command chksk on them to mark the disks clean. Otherwise the partitioner will not be able to resize them properly
[05:06] <hsystem-x> and see if it is detected.
[05:06] <genii> Xeross: The command is chkdsk rather :)
[05:06] <genii> (forgot a d)
[05:06] <Xeross> k
[05:07] <hsystem-x> anyway, there is always a second option : ndiswrapper
[05:07] <Xeross> i've read something about that
[05:07] <hsystem-x> !ndiswrapper
[05:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:07] <Xeross> it's a Sweex Wireless LAN USB 2.0 Adapter 54 Mbps LW053
[05:08] <Xeross> u guys know when shipit will work again
[05:10] <Xeross> the dvd takes long to download
[05:10] <Xeross> 8 hours
[05:11] <ScorpKing> get the cd
[05:11] <Xeross> l
[05:11] <Xeross> k
[05:11] <Xeross> *
[05:15] <Xeross> im planning on turning it into a webserver
[05:15] <linuz1234> alguien q hable castellano?
[05:15] <Tm_T> !es | linuz1234
[05:15] <ubotu> linuz1234: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:15] <linuz1234> gracias!!!
[05:16] <Xeross> 20 mins till cd is done
[05:17] <arash> Someone hear noticed that the 'higher volume/mute/lower volume' doesn't work? It just says Kmix isn't running but it really does, this problem comes and goes completely randomly.
[05:18] <eean> arash: buttons on your keyboard or what?
[05:21] <kaminix|benkyou> Why is the Kubuntu update downloading in like 0.5 Kb/s and stalling all the time? Gay! :(
[05:21] <[GuS] > never happened that to me kaminix|benkyou
[05:22] <ubunturos> is 92 dpi default for X?
[05:22] <kaminix|benkyou> [GuS] : To me it got the first like 112 packages really fast, and now it's stuck with two others. I blame swedish servers, maybe I should turn on the international ones.
[05:22] <wers> wont turn off my computer tonight.. downloading gutsy beta! yey!
[05:22] <[GuS] > yeah.. you should test another mirror kaminix|benkyou
[05:23] <kaminix|benkyou> Too bad it'll have to realise it's being stupid by itself before I can do so :p
[05:26] <kaminix|benkyou> ScorpKing: Screenshot. ^^
[05:27] <tinin> Hi, is anybody running kubuntu gutsy?
[05:27] <Jucato> (ew....)
[05:27] <ScorpKing> there is a wiki link for that.
[05:27] <kaminix|benkyou> huh?
[05:27] <tinin> has dolphin a tree view?
[05:27] <Jucato> not in KDE 3
[05:27] <tinin> :(
[05:27] <tinin> sux
[05:27] <Jucato> the *real* Dolphin in KDE 4 has one
[05:28] <ScorpKing> and a distro. xp-desktop
[05:29] <kaminix|benkyou> I want KDE4 :(
[05:29] <tinin> kde4 may not be very usable
[05:29] <tinin> yet
[05:29] <Jucato> correct
[05:29] <kaminix|benkyou> I want it finished. :p
[05:29] <tinin> they said that for xmas
[05:29] <tinin> it will be a gift
[05:29] <kaminix|benkyou> Hope it won't be delayed much more. It will make a nice christmas present. ^^
[05:30] <kaminix|benkyou> Christmas as in December or December 24th (or 25th...).
[05:30] <kaminix|benkyou> ?
[05:30] <ScorpKing> kaminix|benkyou: http://ubuntu.sun.ac.za/wiki/index.php/KDE-XP is one of them. not sure where i can post a screenshot.
[05:31] <tinin> and how is gutsy beta? many stopping bugs in it?
[05:31] <Jucato> tinin: not so much
[05:31] <Jucato> some bugs here and there. but practically usable..
[05:31] <Jucato> but still wouldn't recommend unless you really want to
[05:32] <kaminix|benkyou> Can't I just replace my repos with the gutsy ones and run sudo aptitude upgrade instead of goofing around with stupid adept?
[05:32] <jeri> helo everyone!
[05:32] <tinin> well, if you say there are problems, I dont want to worry too much about them
[05:32] <Jucato> kaminix|benkyou: technically yes. but the version-upgrade manager does some stuff to ensure that you upgrade properly
[05:33] <kaminix|benkyou> Okay, I see...
[05:33] <jeroenvrp> I need some help with an internet-connection via a nokia mobile phone (gprs), connected by USB?
[05:33] <jeroenvrp> I try to do it with KPPP, but I don't what modem to use
[05:33] <nosrednaekim> jeroenvrp: I think thats handled by Kppp
[05:33] <tinin> I installed my graphics with envy script, I guess I'll ave some problems upgrading
[05:33] <jeroenvrp> I try USB-modems, but no success
[05:34] <ScorpKing> kaminix|benkyou: this is as close as you'll get to xp - http://www.linux-xp.com/gallery/
[05:34] <jeri> can someone help me? ive installed frostwire according to starter guide in kubuntu,the problem wont launch everytime i double click
[05:34] <jeroenvrp> do I miss something@!?
[05:34] <Jucato> jeri: did you install Sun Java?
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> jeroenvrp: never having done it myself,I'm not sure how it works
[05:34] <jeri> nope,ah hehe
[05:35] <jeri> how do i install sun java?
[05:35] <deviance> !java
[05:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:35] <ScorpKing> jeroenvrp: run sudo wvdailconf and look at /etc/wvdail.conf to see what the modem is.
[05:36] <deviance> jeri: sudo apt-get sun-java5-jr
[05:36] <jeri> my system is 6.06 Lts dapper drake
[05:36] <ubunturos> jeri: sun-java-jdk
[05:36] <ubunturos> jeri: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[05:37] <ScorpKing> i'm getting lost. cheers guys
[05:37] <jeroenvrp> ScorpKing: thanks
[05:37] <jeri> im having trouble with the multiverse thing
[05:37] <ihavenokeyboard> hi i need to set up ubuntu to boot without a user/pass due to the fact my keyboards broken and i use onbored,any ideas?
[05:37] <Jucato> ubunturos: -jre
[05:38] <ubunturos> Jucato: -jre?
[05:38] <Jucato> sun-java5-jre
[05:38] <Jucato> or sun-java5-bin (they both install each other)
[05:38] <jeri> how?
[05:38] <ubunturos> jeri: issue those commands
[05:38] <ihavenokeyboard> jeri: so aren't quantum physicists.
[05:39] <Jucato> !multiverse
[05:39] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:39] <jeri> im having problems with multivserse since ive installed kubuntu
[05:40] <deviance> How can I rip dvds?
[05:40] <emilsedgh> deviance: i think k3b can do it
[05:41] <deviance> It diddnt seem to want to, i think it woul;d but I dont know which file it is I need
[05:41] <ubunturos> jeri, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[05:41] <emilsedgh> deviance: K3B->Further Actions...
[05:42] <jeri> how do i do that,im sorry really amateur here
[05:47] <jeri> i think no can help now
[05:49] <jeri> how do i disable gnome desktop so i could use Kde again
[05:50] <jeri> anyone?
[05:50] <genii> jeri: From your login screen just choose KDE for session instead of Gnome
[05:56] <dinoerata> anyone know of great webcam software for ubuntu
[05:56] <jeri> can help me,i cant open my adept because of this error msg : The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[05:56] <dinoerata> i have kopete but i can only see myself , cannot see other party
[05:56] <dappermuis> jeri: so try running apt-setup and apt-get update
[05:57] <Jucato> !aptfix | jeri
[05:57] <ubotu> jeri: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:57] <jeri> it says commnd not found
[05:58] <dinoerata> hey deffcon , do you know of great ubuntu webcam software or tool
[05:58] <deviance> :O Gutsy Beta is out :D
[05:58] <Jucato> !webcam
[05:58] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:58] <dappermuis> deviance: isn't it only out on the 10th?
[05:59] <dappermuis> i know that its been announced though
[05:59] <deviance> The beta is out today :D
[05:59] <dappermuis> oh ok
[05:59] <Russell> hello all
[05:59] <Jucato> dappermuis: Gutsy Beta? no that's today
[05:59] <deviance> Digg says, so it must be true :D
[05:59] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org says so too
[05:59] <dinoerata> ok will check it out bbotu
[05:59] <dinoerata> ubotu
[05:59] <dappermuis> jucato: whats on the 10th then?
[05:59] <Russell> how do i update to 7.10 beta from kubuntu 7.4?
[06:00] <Jucato> dappermuis: Oct 10? the tagging of KDE 4 Beta 3
[06:00] <deviance> I'm guessign thats why the update manager had an adept update today :D
[06:00] <Jucato> Russell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#head-3cb12417f0af7f24d4a34f2ae4040bf791c42f52
[06:00] <dappermuis> jucato: lol - yes, that was it
[06:00] <Russell> Jucato, thank
[06:00] <Russell> *thanks
[06:00] <dappermuis> jucato: there's too much happening in the free software world to keep track of it all :)
[06:00] <jeri> can anyone help me i cant open my adept
[06:01] <Jucato> :)
[06:01] <Jucato> !aptfix | jeri
[06:01] <deviance> !adeptfix
[06:01] <Jucato> bot??? :)
[06:01] <jeri> i only get this error sign
[06:01] <ubotu> jeri: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:01] <jeri> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[06:01] <deviance> Well did you?
[06:01] <jeri> i did that nothing happend
[06:03] <Russell> can't i update from shell by changing all instances of fiesty to gutsy on the apt sources file then issuing "apt-get dist-upgrade" commands?
[06:03] <Jucato> Russell: you can. but the update manager does a few other things to make sure that the proper metapackages and stuff are installed to make the upgrade smoother
[06:05] <Russell> Jucato, ok... one more question, when i'll want to update to 7.04 from the beta, how much will it download? around 200 mb, or again 700 mb?
[06:06] <Jucato> not really sure.. but theoretically, the same size as the total packages you have installed :)
[06:06] <genii> Russell: It's a lot
[06:06] <Jucato> that could be more or less, depends. I think the upgrade manager will let you preview first before upgrading?
[06:06] <jeri> can anyone help i cant open my adept i only get error msgs
[06:07] <jeri> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[06:07] <dappermuis> how stable is gutsy beta btw?
[06:07] <Jucato> jeri: did you do the commands that the bot gave you (twice)?
[06:07] <genii> Just my last set of gutsy updates on already installed gutsy was almost a gig
[06:07] <Russell> alright, thanks
[06:07] <jeri> yup
[06:07] <Jucato> jeri: what command did you enter to be exact?
[06:07] <Jucato> (just double checking)
[06:07] <jeri> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:08] <jeri> i only copy and paste to terminal
[06:08] <dappermuis> erm
[06:08] <Jucato> jeri: try this again: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:09] <kozo> Hi has someone experience whit (first ubuntu and then installing vista (will ther be any trouble whit the bootloader?)
[06:09] <dhq> how do i killall jobs on printer
[06:09] <jeri> then? it brought me back to root?
[06:09] <contrast83> Anyone in here use Tasty Menu?
[06:09] <Jucato> jeri: can you try running Adept again?
[06:10] <jeri> ok
[06:10] <contrast83> kozo: AFAIK, it's next to impossible to install Vista *after* anything else if you want to keep the old OS. It's *possible*, but you have to know what you're doing (or find a tutorial that will guide you through it).
[06:10] <jeri> stil the same error msg
[06:10] <jeri> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[06:10] <Jucato> jeri: ok try this: sudo apt-get -f install
[06:10] <hgarcia> I installed xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:11] <jeri> it says :
[06:11] <jeri> E: Type 'multiverse' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:11] <jeri> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[06:11] <hgarcia> then I changed the video card to fglrx
[06:11] <kozo> is ther any tutorial for something like that?
[06:11] <raylu> Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by
[06:11] <raylu> applicable law.
[06:11] <raylu> You have new mail.
[06:12] <hgarcia> far as the drivers I set them to properitary
[06:12] <raylu> how do i change the first message and how do i read my mail (besides cat /etc/mail/raylu)?
[06:12] <contrast83> kozo: I stumbled upon one quite some time back, so I know at least one exists. Have no idea what its url was though.
[06:12] <hgarcia> my resultion changed from 1200 x 900 to 640 x 480 is there any way to change it back the resolution that is
[06:12] <jeri> ??
[06:12] <raylu> hgarcia, what did you do?
[06:12] <Jucato> jeri: that's the problem. you have wrnog text in your /etc/apt/source.list file
[06:13] <hgarcia> I installed the ati driver xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:13] <contrast83> kozo: I'm pretty sure you'll have to re-do the partitions before installing Vista, moving Ubuntu to a secondary partition (it's on the primary partition now, and given Windows' superiority complex, it *has* to be on the primary partition).
[06:13] <Jucato> jeri: undo what you did. then follow the guide for adding Universe and Multiverse
[06:13] <jeri> what do i do?
[06:13] <hgarcia> then in the system settings I changed it to fgrx for the driver
[06:13] <hgarcia> now my resolution droped
[06:13] <kozo> hmm.. i think i go the easy way and install first vista and then ubuntu
[06:13] <contrast83> kozo: I'm pretty sure GParted will let you do that. You should be able to find a link to its homepage on distrowatch.org
[06:14] <contrast83> kozo: Well, since you're reinstalling anyway, I recommend setting up seperate partitions for / and /home (and obviously another for swap) when you get to that step on the Kubuntu installation.
[06:15] <Kanniball>  is there any program to manage screencasts for kubuntu? like save the video and the decription to view offline
[06:15] <contrast83> kozo: That way, when you reinstall again, so long as you don't format the /home partition, all your personal settings and files will still be there.
[06:15] <jeri> i think i have to reinstall kubuntu,that might solve the problem,or revert back to the time it was freshly installed
[06:15] <Kanniball> I've checked democracy player, but it want all gnome libs :S
[06:15] <inside__> hi
[06:16] <kozo> i have an 80 GB HD here how to partion it?
[06:16] <JaiBee> hallo?
[06:16] <kozo> 30 vista 30 root 10 home 3 gb swap?
[06:17] <JaiBee> sind hier deutsche?
[06:17] <kozo> ja ich ^^
[06:17] <Jucato> !de | JaiBee
[06:17] <ubotu> JaiBee: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:18] <JaiBee> ok dankeschn
[06:18] <JaiBee> dann verlasse ich euch mal wieder
[06:18] <kozo> Aufwiedersehn
[06:18] <llutz> kozo: "30 root 10 home" ? what do you want to install to / ?
[06:18] <JaiBee> ja tschss
[06:18] <Knightlust> jeri: i hope you dont reinstall kubuntu.. that's easy to fix
[06:18] <kozo> ./ is root or not?
[06:19] <hgarcia> any advice on my resolution issue?
[06:19] <llutz> kozo: most of the users don't even need more than 10GB for /
[06:19] <sainzeo> anyone else having problems starting a chat conversation using the groupwise plugin in kopete??
[06:19] <kozo> yes you are right but i have 80 GB and dont know how to used it elsewhere
[06:20] <llutz> kozo: /home
[06:20] <kozo> 10 GB
[06:20] <llutz> kozo: 10 /, 2 Swap, rest /home
[06:21] <llutz> kozo: or spare 10-15 gb for parallel-installations
[06:21] <kozo> ok is 10 GB not a bit sparse
[06:22] <llutz> kozo: depends on what you're planning to do
[06:22] <llutz> my / has only 3.5 used
[06:22] <USMarine> my / has 8gb used
[06:24] <kozo> then 30 GB vista / 10 /swap 2 /home 35 GB
[06:24] <USMarine> 2gb for swap *sigh*
[06:25] <llutz> kozo: 30GB wasted :)
[06:25] <USMarine> indeed
[06:25] <USMarine> better have a virtual machine
[06:25] <USMarine> and trash it when you want
[06:26] <kozo> dont know what to do whit it i have here 80 + 500 + 200 + 320 GB so i dont have any space problems xD
[06:26] <llutz> kozo: why using all those disk if no need for them?
[06:27] <cloakable> llutz: He will eventually :P
[06:27] <llutz> waste of endergy
[06:27] <llutz> -d
[06:27] <eloquence> theres always a need
[06:27] <kozo> ther is need for them like to load and save funsubs
[06:27] <eloquence> for more space
[06:28] <eloquence> kozo do u watch bleach?
[06:28] <kozo> yes
[06:28] <frb-work> is there a nifty mixing program for linux, like to make remixes of songs and other dance club music
[06:28] <kozo> today new ep out  ^^
[06:29] <frb-work> I've only seen the first season of bleach
[06:30] <kozo_> Naruto is coming too ^ 1h special
[06:30] <ralph_> Hi all. Is there a way around the bcm not avail problem when booting a kubuntu live cd. Would love to try it out on my Dell Inspiron E1705.
[06:31] <kozo_> Do you watch it too @eloquence
[06:33] <eloquence> well
[06:33] <eloquence> i only saw th emovie
[06:33] <eloquence> the bleach movie
[06:34] <eloquence> and i want to start watching the episodes but theres so much to download
[06:34] <kozo_> haha
[06:34] <kozo_> yes ther is
[06:35] <kozo_> 142 ep s
[06:35] <eloquence> where do u download from?
[06:36] <kozo_> mininova
[06:37] <kozo_> i think you can find ther packs whit all eps
[06:37] <kozo_> only need is space
[06:37] <kozo_> and time
[06:44] <deviance> How do I get Amarok to check my local files for new files
[06:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> make sure that the directory you're storing files in is part of the media collection, and make sure you have automatically scan for new files checked
[06:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> root on irc, how brilliant...
[06:45] <deviance> Ah it worked, I had to reload all my music from my collection to my playlist, is there not a all collection option
[06:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> lecture's starting, i should really pay attention :\
[06:48] <deviance> genii: Is there anything like Ubuntus deskbar applet for KDE?
[06:49] <deviance> Or Jucato if he knows
[06:49] <Jucato> there will be, in Gutsy
[06:49] <deviance> Oooh :D
[06:49] <Jucato> Strigi Applet
[06:49] <genii> deviance: Probably but offhand i dunno
[06:50] <deviance> Is it in the Gutsy Alpha? Or the Beta?
[06:50] <Jucato> beta today
[06:50] <deviance> Did the Kubuntu beta come out today as well as ubuntus?
[06:50] <deviance> Ah cool
[06:50] <Jucato> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GutsyGibbon/Beta/Kubuntu
[06:50] <deviance> My feed reader diddnt pick up that news from Kubuntu
[06:53] <eloquence> what is a good system monitor to use?
[06:53] <emilsedgh> Jucato: i never had a good experience with strigi, at least on kde3 :(, it dosnt support any usefull format
[06:53] <deviance> Jucato: The one thing that I dont like is Kubuntus artwork.
[06:53] <eloquence> i cant use my superkaramba widgets since i am in enightenment right now
[06:54] <Jucato> emilsedgh, deviance: don't tell me. I didn't do those things :P
[06:54] <deviance> Like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon/Beta/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=kdm.png
[06:54] <deviance> Feisty was blue o.o
[06:54] <Jucato> feisty was more purple than blue
[06:54] <eloquence> blue > *
[06:55] <Jucato> kdm themes are sooo  changeable :P
[06:55] <emilsedgh> Jucato: why kubuntu doesnt use any other icon theme? crystal svg is everywhere, everyone is tired from it..
[06:55] <Jucato> emilsedgh: trying to keep the KDE trademark as much as possible I believe
[06:55] <Jucato> and by trademark, I don't mean the legal trademark
[06:56] <deviance> Jucato: What are you running at the moment? The Beta?
[06:56] <Jucato> yep
[06:56] <emilsedgh> Jucato: then users should install Debian, not kubuntu, kubuntu should bring the best kde configurations, also they changed win decoration and widget style, i think this should be changed too
[06:57] <Jucato> unfortunately, the people who get to decide think differently
[06:57] <Jucato> and specially wrt artwork, it's a very tricky thing
[06:57] <eloquence> what is a good system monitor to use i am on kubuntu but using enlightenment currently?
[06:57] <llutz> use the freedom, make it look like YOU want
[06:58] <newsense07> eloquence: gkrellm
[06:59] <deviance> Aparently my Gfx card is good enough to run Nvidia-gxl drivers, I have them installed, how can I turn them on again? My Card is a 7300gs
[06:59] <emilsedgh> llutz: sure, i do so, but when i compare ubuntu to kubuntu i see that gnome's default are really better
[07:00] <emilsedgh> s/gnome/ubuntu
[07:00] <deviance> Tee Time :D
[07:00] <Jucato> blimey!
[07:00] <deviance> Good bye y'all
[07:00] <Jucato> bed time
[07:00] <deviance> :P
[07:01] <emilsedgh> Jucato: hey, update your blog, im waiting...
[07:01] <Jucato> lol
[07:01] <Jucato> I'm too busy thinking of something to blog to be able to blog :)
[07:02] <Jucato> actually I have a list already... but I have to choose carefully now that I'm on two planets..
[07:02] <emilsedgh> Jucato: ubunru and kde? lol, write about how crap is gnome, and wait for a flame war in the comments :D
[07:03] <Jucato> tsk tsk.. I'm not like that :P
[07:04] <frb-work> !virtualbox
[07:04] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[07:06] <frb-work> if I wanted to use Vbox PUE on gutsy, is it possible?
[07:07] <cash> hello there )
[07:08] <cash> please help me change file-system from read-only mode to exchange ?
[07:08] <cash> I mean cdrom
[07:08] <cash> sorry to execute
[07:09] <radius> !kdetv
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdetv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <radius> !tvtime
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtime - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <eloquence> !opentv
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opentv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <radius> hmm
[07:09] <cash> any body alive ?
[07:09] <Tm_T> all bodies are dead
[07:09] <kstanley> I would like to congratulate the Kubuntu developers; It is the best live distro I have used in a long time. Thank you!
[07:10] <Tm_T> kstanley: youre welcome
[07:10] <kstanley> thank you
[07:10] <cash> Help me please !!!
[07:11] <cash> Tm_T please give me a piece of advice
[07:11] <Tm_T> cash: whats the problem?
[07:12] <cash> Tm_T I need to change file-system mode from read-only to execute ,and cant make that with "chmod" it is cdrom =(
[07:12] <Tm_T> cash: well you cant
[07:13] <Tm_T> cash: if you need to execute something, do run it from Konsole, like "sh /media/cdrom/file-i-run
[07:13] <cash> Tm_T I need to run many files ...I try to install matlab
[07:13] <Lunar_Lamp> When I try to run screen I get the error: Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied
[07:13] <Lunar_Lamp> What's going on there?!
[07:14] <llutz> cash: remount it with exec-option
[07:14] <cash> llutz please tell me , how ?
[07:14] <Tm_T> !mount
[07:14] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:14] <Tm_T> bah
[07:15] <llutz> cash: sudo mount -o remount,exec /media/cdrom
[07:15] <cash> ura
[07:15] <cash> I mean thanks ))
[07:15] <cash> a lott
[07:16] <stdin> Lunar_Lamp: that should have been created when screen was installed, if not do "sudo mkdir /var/run/screen && sudo chgrp utmp /var/run/screen && sudo chmod 775 /var/run/screen"
[07:16] <Lunar_Lamp> stdin: that's what I'd have thought - but I've been running screen, and then it suddenly won't work. I don't remember making any alterations that would have an impact :-/
[07:17] <Lunar_Lamp> (that worked to fix it - but still - I'm concerned as to what caused ti)
[07:17] <cash> llutz it is dont help =(( maybe exists other ways ? =( sorry for many questions
[07:19] <cash> oh !Im stupid man !It is works !thanks for your answers !!
[07:19] <stdin> Lunar_Lamp: do you have /etc/init.d/screen ?
[07:20] <Lunar_Lamp> Yes
[07:21] <stdin> Lunar_Lamp: is there a link called /etc/rcS.d/S70screen that points to it ?
[07:22] <Lunar_Lamp> stdin: yup
[07:23] <stdin> Lunar_Lamp: well that script should create that directory anyway, /var/run is a tempfs so it's deleted at poweroff, that script should run at boot and remake that directory
[07:24] <Lunar_Lamp> Hmm, ok, I'll check the script quickly to see if there's anything obvious about it.
[07:25] <Lunar_Lamp> All seems ok to me
[07:25] <stdin> then afaik, it _should_ be working, not sure why it's not
[07:27] <Lunar_Lamp> stdin: I'll see what happens on next reboot.
[07:31] <RytmenPinnen> am I allowed to ask about problems related to konversation in here? The thing is that I cant join channels with "" (nordic letters)
[07:32] <Lunar_Lamp> RytmenPinnen: try #konversation :-)
[07:33] <RytmenPinnen> thank you
[07:34] <winbond> my fstab shows /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0, but its not mounting . how can i mount it?
[07:34] <LjL> RytmenPinnen, i don't think channels with non-ASCII letters can *exist* at all...
[07:34] <RytmenPinnen> they can on quakenet :P
[07:35] <LjL> well, here
[07:35] <LjL> JOIN #
[07:35] <LjL> :brown.freenode.net 479 ljl2 # :Illegal channel name
[07:35] <RytmenPinnen> well, is there anything I can do about it? or am I doomed to switch client ?  :o
[07:36] <LjL> RytmenPinnen, is that on freenode, or some network that you *know* allows such channel names?
[07:36] <LjL> or if you prefer, what's the server address you're connecting to?
[07:36] <RytmenPinnen> its on quakenet.org
[07:36] <frb-work> does ati on linux support crossfire?
[07:37] <RytmenPinnen> when I try to join I get this [20:26]  [Error]  #ndutgng: No such channel.
[07:38] <LjL> RytmenPinnen, uhm, i cannot connect to there because it requires registration... however, i suspect it's an encoding problem rather than a client problem
[07:38] <LjL> i.e. it works if you use Latin1, but not if you use UTF-8, which is the Ubuntu standard
[07:40] <winbond> my fstab shows /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0, but its not mounting . how can i mount it?
[07:40] <winbond> my fstab shows /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0, but its not mounting . how can i mount it?
[07:40] <winbond> my fstab shows /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0, but its not mounting . how can i mount it?
[07:40] <RivaeAerya> Guys, where can i get a list of what kubuntu changed from the defaults of KDE? like missing menu's and programs and stuff..
[07:40] <LjL> winbond: you could start by not spamming the channel
[07:41] <LjL> winbond: "it's not mounting" you mean automatically, or manually?
[07:41] <winbond> automatically, im not spaming, damn piece of crap konversation is not working right
[07:42] <LjL> well, if you try manually, does it work?
[07:42] <LjL> i.e. sudo mount /media/cdrom0
[07:43] <winbond> LjL: it says no medium found, but i have a blank cd in there, i want to burn a cd
[07:43] <ubuntu> Is this command: mkfs.ext3 -v -c -c /dev/hda1 doing a destructive or a non-destructive FS test
[07:44] <RivaeAerya> Guys, where can i get a list of what kubuntu changed from the defaults of KDE? like missing menu's and programs and stuff.. Oh and, does anyone know a good firewall for KDE?
[07:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> firewall for kde?
[07:45] <RivaeAerya> yep
[07:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> there's a firewall for linux installed by default on every distro (or nearly every)
[07:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> !iptables
[07:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:46] <RivaeAerya> ah, guarddog.. thanks! :)
[07:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> guarddog is apparently a good frontend for iptables :D
[07:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> i couldn't remember the kde one
[07:46] <RivaeAerya> Guarddog is the KDE one
[07:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> remembered firestarter for some reason...  probably because of the book
[07:46] <RivaeAerya> but i was using firestarter until now
[07:47] <winbond> who is a dmin here?
[07:47] <CongealedMirth> Hey all
[07:47] <winbond> admin
[07:47] <stdin> admin for what?
[07:47] <stdin> admin for what?
[07:47] <CongealedMirth> Quick question on Kubuntu:  Which tool is the standard one for changing the network settings?  Is it KNetworkManager?  And in that case, how do I make effects permanent?
[07:48] <winbond> who is a admin here?
[07:48] <stdin> admin for what?
[07:48] <winbond> for the channel
[07:48] <stdin> winbond: why?
[07:48] <dettoaltrimenti> where can I change the settings for mouse sensitivity?
[07:48] <winbond> room , whatever, couse i need to talk to an admin
[07:48] <stdin> CongealedMirth: look in System Settings > network ?
[07:48] <stdin> winbond: join #ubuntu-ops
[07:49] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse ?
[07:49] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I minimise Thunderbird to the system tray?
[07:49] <winbond> stdin: thanks
[07:49] <dettoaltrimenti> Jucato- I don't have that under my System Settings: I have personal, look and feel, computer administration, network and connectivity
[07:50] <CongealedMirth> stdin:  ok, and how do i make them permanent?  I have a static IP that I assign...yet when I reboot it all goes away
[07:50] <LjL> winbond you can't mount an empty cd... and it doesn't need to be mounted to burn things on it, either
[07:50] <dettoaltrimenti> hah I found it sorry
[07:50] <Jucato> :)
[07:50] <ubuntu> I'm installing a kubuntu desktop. now i need to know: Is this command: mkfs.ext3 -v -c -c /dev/hda1 doing a destructive or a non-destructive FS test
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Hello
[07:50] <DaSkreech> What the heck?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> arrrgh
[07:50] <CongealedMirth> hola Jucato
[07:50] <Jucato> hello
[07:51] <stdin> CongealedMirth: it should be permanent if you set it there
[07:51] <DaSkreech> anyone ever hung out in #debian ?
[07:52] <Roey> stdin:  nope it isn't
[07:52] <ubuntu> normale that command does a destructive test (which I want). but the man for mkfs.ext3 doesn't say destructive for the double -c option. so hs that behavior changed from what other distributions do?
[07:52] <frb-work> DaSkreech: long ago in a land far far away
[07:53] <DaSkreech> I have no voice in the chan I don't know
[07:53] <DaSkreech> I can't ask a question and they don't want me messaging anyone
[07:53] <Arkard> Hi people
[07:53] <Arkard> i need some help with a modem
[07:54] <Arkard> i want to connect me in a Dial Up Connection
[07:54] <DaSkreech> !ppp
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <DaSkreech> Dumb bot
[07:54] <DaSkreech> :)
[07:54] <Arkard> but i cant configure the modem
[07:54] <Jucato> !dialup
[07:54] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[07:54] <Jucato> (dumb person asking the bot :P)
[07:54] <Arkard> let me see
[07:54] <Jucato> that was for DaSkreech btw, :D
[07:55] <DaSkreech> there is !modem as well
[07:55] <DaSkreech> But it should knoooooow what I'm asking for
[07:55] <JohnFlux> can I temporarily prevent kde/hal/whatever from mounting my usb disk?
[07:55] <JohnFlux> when I plug it in
[07:55] <JohnFlux> I need to fsck it
[07:55] <DaSkreech> Hold shift >_<
[07:56] <Arkard> btw how can i create a Block Device?
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Arkard: try mknod
[07:57] <JohnFlux> DaSkreech: really? or is that just windows? :
[07:57] <DaSkreech> JohnFlux: that's windows
[07:57] <Arkard> i have a lot of LAG
[07:57] <DaSkreech> would be nice though :)
[07:59] <RivaeAerya> Guys, i'm looking for a monopoly for KDE. I've tried atlantik, but no one _EVER_ comes online there.
[07:59] <RivaeAerya> do you guys know any?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: Are you serious?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> I normally find like 5 people on
[08:00] <DaSkreech> like one that wants to play with me but that's beside the point
[08:00] <Jucato> who'd want to play w/ you? O.o
[08:00] <DaSkreech> ompaul: Question. What's the error Cannot send to channel indicate?
[08:00] <timucin_kizilay> hi !, I've downloaded the kubuntu 7.10 beta iso and when I boot my computer with it, it ask username and password. so, what is that username and password?
[08:00] <DaSkreech> Jucato: My dogs.. after I roll in steak .. and gravy
[08:00] <Jucato> DaSkreech: moderated channel?
[08:01] <stdin> timucin_kizilay: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy help
[08:01] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: yes, i'm serious
[08:01] <DaSkreech> Jucato: I would think so but apparently it's only moderated for me
[08:01] <llp78> is it possible to remove a word from every filename in the current directory ? for example the file are "test1 word" test2 word etc.. i want to remove the word in all the files - over 500 file so dont want to do it manually
[08:01] <timucin_kizilay> thanks stdin. :)
[08:01] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: How long have you been trying?
[08:01] <Jucato> DaSkreech: this is where? #debian on freenode?
[08:01] <DaSkreech> llp78: #bash
[08:01] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: well i've been on there several times and there's not many people online.
[08:01] <DaSkreech> Jucato: ja
[08:02] <ompaul> DaSkreech, it is not an error, it means exactly what it says on the tin, the cause is a channel operator has either (A) made a channel mode +m or (B) you are muted, either cos you are banned and you have not been removed, or you are actually able to join and part but not talk
[08:02] <DaSkreech> RivaeAerya: I'll agree it's not a Halo3 mosh fest but there is normally someone there. If not I just leave it open it flashes the bar when anything of significance happens so I can play and do work at the same time
[08:02] <RivaeAerya> DaSkreech: hmm.
[08:03] <Jucato> DaSkreech: +c +f +P  I think +c is no colors. not sure about the other 2
[08:03] <Jucato> anyway.. /me bed
[08:03] <DaSkreech> ompaul: Why would I be able to join and part and not talk when that seems does not seem to be the policy and I have just got this computer on the net so I think I would have to be prebanned
[08:03] <Arkard> mknod always say: Invalid mode
[08:03] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Night sleep well
[08:04] <Arkard> can anybody help me?
[08:04] <ompaul> DaSkreech, IP related who knows
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Arkard: read the man page it's a tricky little command
[08:04] <ompaul> and DaSkreech offtopic for here
[08:04] <DaSkreech> ompaul: Right thanks
[08:05] <DaSkreech> ompaul: very sure but I'm oftopic everywhere but that chan and I'm not to message any one so I can't talk normally or message ops without breaking policy
[08:06] <Arkard> i dont know how to configure mi modem?
[08:06] <Arkard> wait for me a few minutes
[08:07] <newsense07> Arkard: well be waiting
[08:12] <Arkard> im back, sorry
[08:16] <Arkard> Hi?
[08:16] <emilsedgh> !hi Arkard
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi arkard - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <Arkard> :D
[08:17] <Arkard> funny
[08:17] <LjL> !hi
[08:17] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:17] <emilsedgh> ah
[08:17] <emilsedgh> i wanted to say | Arkard :D
[08:18] <Arkard> hahahaha
[08:18] <Arkard> so as i was saying
[08:18] <Arkard> i cant configure my modem
[08:18] <Arkard> can you help me?
[08:19] <emilsedgh> Arkard: whats your modems chipset?
[08:20] <kreib> have a problem with internet connection on  my pc
[08:21] <Arkard> let me see emilsedgh
[08:22] <Arkard> emilsedgh: a little stamp say: CNR V1.2
[08:22] <kreib> it only connects sometimes
[08:22] <emilsedgh> Arkard: i dunno CNR, usually they are conexant or intel or slmodemd...i think i could you with conexant and/or slmodemd
[08:23] <Arkard> let me see better
[08:23] <Arkard> yeap, here another stamp say CNR 2002/34
[08:24] <kreib> someone can help with mye internet connection please?
[08:24] <Arkard> what is your probem kreib?
[08:24] <emilsedgh> Arkard: could you please copy the output of lspci into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[08:24] <kreib> it only commects sometimes
[08:25] <emilsedgh> kreib: you should say more details...
[08:25] <Arkard> yeah
[08:25] <Arkard> Dial up or DSL?
[08:25] <kreib> and then it works ok, bu other times it fails
[08:25] <kreib> dsl
[08:25] <Arkard> check the cable
[08:26] <kreib> its wireless
[08:26] <Arkard> Mmmm
[08:26] <Arkard> Check the coniguration
[08:26] <Arkard> in your PC
[08:27] <Cugel> Dudes.
[08:27] <Arkard> Sup man
[08:27] <kreib> yeah, I have a wmp54g linksys with rt2561 driver
[08:27] <Cugel> Anyone installed that Gutsy beta yet?
[08:28] <stdin> Cugel: #ubuntu+1 is a better place to ask
[08:28] <Cugel> Okay (though I was refering to Kubuntu).
[08:28] <Arkard> the problem is sometimes it connects and sometimes not? or you are working and suddenly DC?
[08:28] <kreib> yes sometimes it does
[08:28] <stdin> Cugel: that channel is for both ubuntu and kubuntu
[08:28] <Arkard> wich one kreib?
[08:28] <newsense07> kreib: latest firmware on router ?
[08:29] <kreib> no
[08:29] <kreib> its a wrt54gl router
[08:29] <newsense07> kreib:id update the firmware to elimanate that possibility
[08:29] <Arkard> yeah, could be
[08:29] <kreib> ok, maybe try that
[08:29] <kreib> thx
[08:30] <Arkard> NP
[08:30] <Arkard> if i can i help :D
[08:31] <kreib> thing is, its a htpc, with no keyboard, if I could just have a script that does /etc/init.d/networking restart , a little while after boot it would be ok I think
[08:32] <kreib> or until connection is established
[08:32] <newsense07> kreib: shouldnt have to do that
[08:32] <kreib> I know, but it works always on my laptop, so I doubt its the router
[08:32] <newsense07> kreib: any other computers connecting wireless on your lan ?
[08:33] <kreib> the htpc and the laptop
[08:33] <newsense07> kreib: ok nm than
[08:33] <Arkard> Damn Modem
[08:33] <hero> what directories does konqueror put cache?
[08:34] <Arkard> Will be easier if i have a DSL T_T
[08:34] <pillowpants__> does anyone know where i can get the wiley linux bible ebook?
[08:34] <pillowpants__> i saw a link from somewhere not too long ago
[08:34] <DaSkreech> !away | savetheworld
[08:34] <ubotu> savetheworld: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines
[08:35] <Arkard> Have anyone hear about SATAN?
[08:35] <DaSkreech> hero: /var/cahce ?
[08:35] <DaSkreech>  /var/cache
[08:35] <hero> thx
[08:36] <pillowpants__> !linux bible
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linux bible - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <DaSkreech> pillowpants__: KDE?
[08:36] <DaSkreech> !icthux
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icthux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <Arkard> !SATAN
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about satan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <Arkard> !automatix
[08:37] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[08:37] <DaSkreech> Arkard: Not quite the same thing
[08:37] <kaminix> How can I fix scim-skim in Gutsy? Do I need to compile it myself?
[08:38] <pillowpants__> DaSkreech: huh?
[08:38] <Arkard> ...
[08:38] <DaSkreech> pillowpants__: You want a bible for KDE?
[08:39] <weyer> hi, i'm helping someone to install kubuntu, and i'm wondering if he has installed 32 or 64 bit
[08:39] <weyer> how can i check that?
[08:40] <USMarine> errr
[08:40] <stdin> weyer: see what "dpkg --print-architecture" prints
[08:40] <USMarine> type arch
[08:40] <USMarine> in console
[08:40] <stdin> USMarine: bash: arch: command not found
[08:41] <weyer> nice, thnx
[08:41] <pillowpants__> DaSkreech: no, i was just wondering if someone had a link for the wiley linux bible ebook
[08:41] <pillowpants__> i got it from here not too long ago
[08:41] <pillowpants__> i need to check something, but im not on my home comp
[08:42] <DaSkreech> pillowpants__: Ah. No Warez here
[08:42] <DaSkreech> pillowpants__: You may try the wiley site They probably have it there somewhere
[08:42] <USMarine> stdin sorry, but i could swear there was such command
[08:43] <stdin> USMarine: there is on some other distros, like RPM based ones
[08:43] <Arkard> have anyone here used KSniffer?
[08:43] <Arkard> !Ksniffer
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksniffer - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <hero> what directories does konqueror store its cache in? it's not /var/cache
[08:43] <ScorpKing> hi stdin!
[08:43] <dany> hi all..!
[08:43] <stdin> hey ScorpKing :)
[08:43] <USMarine> what's up dany
[08:43] <DaSkreech> !info ksniffer
[08:43] <Arkard> Hi
[08:44] <ubotu> ksniffer: network sniffing application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 232 kB, installed size 1180 kB
[08:44] <Arkard> DaSkreech, what is does?
[08:44] <stdin> hero: look at /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER
[08:44] <hero> stdin: ok
[08:44] <ScorpKing> stdin: i see a few people complained about the service menu not being installed with your script. think i found the problem. :)
[08:44] <V-S> you use msn?
[08:45] <xenol> hello does anyone have experience with installing ut2004 on kubuntu?
[08:45] <DaSkreech> Arkard: It sniffs the network
[08:45] <stdin> !games | xenol
[08:45] <ubotu> xenol: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[08:45] <stdin> ScorpKing: do tell :)
[08:45] <USMarine> V-S damn right i do
[08:45] <DaSkreech> xenol: what's the problem?
[08:45] <ScorpKing> stdin: gimme a sec.
[08:45] <kreib> gconf-editor, is that for ubuntu only? what about kubuntu?
[08:46] <xenol> DaSkreech: oh :< i already looked at all sites that have smth with ut2004, prob is i install it patch it then start game and it wont open
[08:46] <USMarine> xenol do they have execute permissions?
[08:46] <DaSkreech> no error messages?
[08:46] <Arkard> well in a LAN Netwerk i can see all the other PC's but i cant enter in $C and i know the Admin Password, help here
[08:47] <Sanne> kreib: gconf-editor is for Gnome. For Kde you can use System Settings or kcontrol (the KDE default Control Center)
[08:47] <kaminix> Is Gutsy using QT4? It is WAY faster than before I upgraded.
[08:47] <pillowpants__> has anyone here tried freeNAS?
[08:47] <kreib> thx
[08:47] <Sanne> :)
[08:47] <t4thfavor> @Arkard tun off simple file sharing on the windows boxes
[08:47] <stdin> kaminix: kde 3.* still uses Qt3  there are some Qt4 apps tho
[08:48] <Arkard> BTW t4thfavor all the other PC's use Windows
[08:48] <kaminix> stdin: Any idea why it's not using any swap now? Was using like 400MB before. Is it due to me rebooting?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> kaminix: somethings are but by and large no
[08:48] <DaSkreech> !info freenas
[08:48] <ubotu> Package freenas does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:48] <stdin> kaminix: yeah, reboot will clear swap
[08:48] <t4thfavor> Arkard they need to have somple file sharing disabled
[08:48] <xenol> USMarine: dunno i installed it to my home folder and it wrote in konsole smth like "Cant run UT2004 (ut2004-bin). Is UT2004_DATA_PATH set?"
[08:48] <DaSkreech> and /tmp
[08:49] <ScorpKing> stdin: mountserv.desktop is being copied to the wrong place. export SYSDIR=${PREFIX}/share/applnk/Utilities should be export SYSDIR=${PREFIX}/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ to copy it correctly.
[08:49] <Arkard> where i do that t4thfavor?
[08:50] <t4thfavor> Go here http://compnetworking.about.com/cs/winxpnetworking/ht/winxpsfs.htm
[08:52] <ScorpKing> pillowpants__: can you /pm?
[08:53] <stdin> ScorpKing: mountserv.desktop isn't copied to $SYSDIR  it's to ${PREFIX}/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/
[08:53] <tom`88> hola
[08:53] <tom`88> hola
[08:54] <ScorpKing> stdin: lol. i see. i found it under .kde/share/applnk/Utilities after install tho. :)
[08:54] <stdin> hmm, I'll have a look at it
[08:55] <stdin> ScorpKing: was it "mountfile.desktop" or "mountserv.desktop" ?
[08:56] <ScorpKing> stdin: let me make sure.
[08:57] <ScorpKing> stdin: mountfile.desktop - i'm lost. :D
[08:57] <stdin> ScorpKing: mountfile.desktop makes the entry in the KMenu
[08:57] <USMarine> xenol try running it from the game dir
[08:58] <stdin> ScorpKing: tho, I'm moving that to ${prefix}/share/applications/kde now
[08:58] <ScorpKing> stdin: well, i think the problem is it doesn't copy right. i've never done any scripting tho. :)
[08:58] <manchicken> Anybody know how to get a blackberry to sync with kontact?
[08:59] <uga> lol "https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFeistyKnownProblems"
[08:59] <stdin> ScorpKing: do you see mountserv.desktop in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ ?
[08:59] <uga> no issues at this time? =)
[08:59] <uga> somebody forgot to update the list since the first release?
[09:00] <ScorpKing> stdin: i had to copy it there
[09:00] <xenol> USMarine: well i read it should be neough to write ut2004 in terminal and game should run but nothing happens
[09:00] <stdin> ScorpKing: k
[09:02] <kaminix> After I upgraded to Gutsy my Yakuake console uses antialiasing, how do I turn it off?
[09:04] <thomas_> i wanna print an image but when I go to print how do I print in Grayscale?
[09:05] <stdin> ScorpKing: strange, when I install it it works
[09:07] <ScorpKing> stdin: yeah, but for some it doesn't work. no idea why tho. i'll let you know if i find out why.
[09:08] <stdin> ScorpKing: if you can edit installGUI.sh and put "set -x" under "#!/bin/sh", then run it from konsole and pastebin the result that would help
[09:08] <JParishy> So how's the new beta?
[09:08] <ScorpKing> stdin: even if it's already installed?
[09:10] <frb-work> gutsy seems to be serving me well
[09:10] <stdin> ScorpKing: should still work, but you can remove it and try.  "rm ~/bin/mountfile ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/mountserv.desktop ~/.kde/share/applnk/Utilities/mountfile.desktop "
[09:10] <JParishy> I'm just about to download it and put it on my macbook
[09:11] <ScorpKing> stdin: will do.
[09:12] <thomas_> i wanna print an image but when I go to print how do I print in Grayscale?
[09:14] <ScorpKing> stdin: #!/bin/sh and the next line #set -x right?
[09:14] <stdin> ScorpKing: without the "#"  just "set -x"
[09:14] <ScorpKing> k
[09:16] <coreymon77> thomas_: press properties next to the printer name in the print window
[09:16] <coreymon77> thomas_: then go to the driver settings tab
[09:17] <coreymon77> thomas_: then click on printout mode directly under the word General
[09:17] <Fishy> How unstable is the latest kubuntu beta? Any major problems?
[09:17] <coreymon77> thomas_: then choose one of the greyscale options
[09:17] <coreymon77> Fishy: #ubuntu+1 would be better for that
[09:18] <thomas_> coreymon77: but they all say + color cart
[09:18] <coreymon77> thomas_: wrong printout mode
[09:18] <coreymon77> thomas_: the other one
[09:19] <coreymon77> thomas_: right above media source
[09:19] <thomas_> coreymon77: draft grayscale?
[09:19] <coreymon77> thomas_: do you want draft quality?
[09:19] <thomas_> coreymon77: lol i don'nt know if thats really bad or not
[09:19] <coreymon77> thomas_: draft is bad
[09:19] <ScorpKing> stdin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38839/ - it did not copy.
[09:19] <coreymon77> thomas_: draft is fast print
[09:20] <thomas_> coreymon77: alright I'll check it out thank you man
[09:20] <coreymon77> thomas_: click on normal gratscale
[09:20] <stdin> ScorpKing: so /home/scorpking/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ is empty?
[09:21] <ScorpKing> yes
[09:21] <DexterF> hi
[09:21] <ScorpKing> stdin: that dir is wrong.
[09:21] <DexterF> feisty: beryl once worked, weeks ago, now not anymore. anyone got a clue? there some known fsckup?
[09:21] <ScorpKing> stdin: it must be /home/scorpking/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/
[09:21] <stdin> ScorpKing: ahh, yes :p
[09:22] <ScorpKing> i guess the problem is solved. :D
[09:23] <The_Machine> i'm getting an error writing a DVD in k3b and i don't know how to troubleshoot it.  I can burn CDs (data/audio) just fine.
[09:24] <The_Machine> here is the error:
[09:24] <The_Machine> http://www.nomorepasting.com/getpaste.php?pasteid=4339
[09:25] <Chousuke> :/
[09:25] <Chousuke> an I/O error with cryptic error codes says nothing to me
[09:26] <kreib> is there someway to programatically test if there is internet connection ?
[09:27] <thomas_> how to mkdir with one line such as instead of: mkdir a | mkdir b | mkdir c
[09:27] <thomas_> but mkdir a,b,c?
[09:27] <The_Machine> Chousuke, says nothing?  what do you expect it to say?
[09:27] <Chousuke> something informative
[09:27] <The_Machine> ....
[09:28] <Chousuke> that tells what the error is :P
[09:28] <The_Machine> you don't use linux much, do you?
[09:28] <The_Machine> :P
[09:28] <Chousuke> Well, I used to
[09:28] <Chousuke> for about 3 years
[09:28] <sainzeo> i'm getting the error message: "An error occurred when trying to start a chat: 53560" when I try to chat with someone using the groupwise plugin for Kopete - any suggestions?
[09:28] <Chousuke> then I moved to OS X
[09:29] <xenol> Chousuke: can u say OS X is better then kubuntu>
[09:29] <xenol> ?
[09:29] <Chousuke> xenol: IMHO it is.
[09:30] <rrbiz> all i got was 4 system files in dist-upgrade today, i thought beta would have a bigger upgrade load
[09:32] <ShaneN> Hello all
[09:34] <sainzeo> i'm getting the error message: "An error occurred when trying to start a chat: 53560" when I try to chat with someone using the groupwise plugin for Kopete - any suggestions?
[09:34] <rrbiz> hi ShaneN
[09:35] <pierreth> hello, firefox keeps opening the links from Konqueror. How can I stop this?
[09:36] <thomas_> why doesn't this work?: mkdir admin newnham | mkdir newnham/library
[09:36] <elo_> brb reboot
[09:36] <Lunar_Lamp_> Er, thomas_ I don't think the "|" char does what you think it does.
[09:37] <thomas_> Lunar_Lamp_: doesn't it allow you to do another command
[09:37] <thomas_> like tree | more
[09:37] <Lunar_Lamp_> You want to do "and" there not "take the output of the first command and give it as input into the second command".
[09:37] <Lunar_Lamp_> The "and" you want to use is "&&" which is "and if the previous command went without error, do this next one".
[09:37] <Lunar_Lamp_> However, you can do it all in one command.
[09:37] <stdin> ScorpKing: fixed in version <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:38] <thomas_> Lunar_Lamp_: show me :)?
[09:38] <ScorpKing> stdin: sweet!
[09:38] <Lunar_Lamp_> mkdir -p /path/to/dirs/which/will/make/parents/as/requird
[09:40] <thomas_> Lunar_Lamp_: but i'm making 2 directories and only the second one is making parent directories
[09:41] <thomas_> Lunar_Lamp_: huh you don't need -p to make a directory, like: mkdir ~/home/user/exampledir
[09:41] <Lunar_Lamp_> Sorry, thomas_ - you are in, for example, /home/thomas_ and want to create /home/thomas_/testing/bash/commands
[09:42] <Lunar_Lamp_> No, the -p isn't needed to create a single - but you wanted to create a directory with a subdirectory, so instead of this;  "mkdir /test && mkdir /test/subdir" you can do "mkdir -p /test/subdir"
[09:42] <boguh_> how can i activate these full  konqueror profiles?
[09:43] <boguh_> just read that these standard profiles in kubuntu are more "user friendly"
[09:43] <thomas_> Lunar_Lamp_: ok so I can also do mkdir dir1 dir2 dir3/parent1/parent2
[09:44] <Sanne> boguh_: this should help: http://kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror
[09:44] <RivaeAerya> How do i make a folder that has inside all kinds of shortcuts to different websites? sort of like a favorites folder, but on the desktop?
[09:44] <boguh_> Sanne just did that, cant see any difference
[09:45] <Lunar_Lamp_> thomas_: yes, you can.  This works: "mkdir -p test1 test2 test3/test3a/test3b"
[09:45] <Sanne> boguh_: you should now have settings->Load/Save/Configure view profiles
[09:46] <ubuntu_> tem alguem ai ::
[09:47] <Sanne> boguh_: there's also this (also check out the link to jucato's blog in there): http://backports.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=307576
[09:47] <RivaeAerya> How do i make a folder that has inside all kinds of shortcuts to different websites? sort of like a favorites folder, but on the desktop?
[09:49] <fevel> hello
[09:50] <fevel> I had ubuntu installed and now I installed kubuntu-desktop to check it out
[09:50] <ozehka> Hello, I'm getting *segmentation fault* in lots of programs and after running memcheck for a few minutes, I'm quite sure its not because of corrupt memory....
[09:50] <thomas_> Lunar_Lamp_: is there a faster way instead of having to type richmondhill over and over?: mkdir -p -v richmondhill/annex richmondhill/building1 richmondhill/parking
[09:50] <fevel> although my locale settings changed to us
[09:51] <fevel> can someone help me change or install my locale?
[09:51] <davubuntu> Hey all... I was wondering if anyone could help me with my touchpad dimensions. I have ksynaptic installed and have turned on vertical and horizontal scrolling but the scrollers take up way too much of the pad (and they're a little buggy).   It will last until you exit the terminal.  Alternatively, you could "cd richmondhill" as a command and then you would be creating dirs in that dir
[09:57] <lopin> !install
[09:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:58] <lopin> !automate
[09:58] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[09:58] <feierfox> my kubuntu gutsy does not mount my second SATA HD
[09:58] <feierfox> can someone help me?
[09:58] <feierfox> i had the same problem with the feisty upgrade
[09:59] <uga> feierfox: does manual mounting work?
[10:00] <uga> feierfox: ie, the problem is with automounting, or with mounting in general
[10:00] <ozehka> Hello, I'm getting *segmentation fault* in lots of programs and after running memcheck for a few minutes, I'm quite sure its not because of corrupt memory. any help?
[10:00] <feierfox> auto
[10:00] <feierfox> and i dont know how to mount manuel :(
[10:00] <uga> feierfox: then edit /etc/fstab as root (sudo)
[10:01] <uga> do you see the line that describes how to mount your second disk?
[10:01] <uga> it should be /dev/sdb1, or so
[10:01] <ScorpKing> ozehka: pastebin the output of dmesg
[10:01] <ozehka> lol nothing big :P
[10:01] <ozehka> e.g. ...
[10:01] <ozehka> $ eclipse
[10:01] <ozehka> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[10:01] <uga> feierfox: mounting manually is easy.  "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/mydisk" for example
[10:02] <quixogre> afternoon all
[10:02] <uga> ozehka: core dumped? sounds like you run the program as root?
[10:02] <feierfox>  /media/data ext3 user,rw,auto
[10:02] <ozehka> no i deleted my user name
[10:02] <uga> feierfox: the line should be longer, including a device name or device UUID, right?
[10:03] <ozehka> what does core dumped mean?
[10:03] <feierfox> hmm it says, that the /dev/sda1 is allready mounted
[10:03] <feierfox> but i can't see the drive or files :(
[10:04] <quixogre> ozehka, not a good thing...unix/linux equivelant of blue screen basically...program crashed, and created a file of the reason
[10:04] <uga> feierfox: sda1 is the first partition of the first disk
[10:04] <feierfox> :/
[10:04] <uga> feierfox: sda2 is second primary partition of the first disk. sdb is the second disk, sdb1 is the first primary partition of the second disk...
[10:04] <uga> etc etc
[10:04] <dappermuis> ozehka: segmentation faults usually occur when you try access an illegal part of memory
[10:04] <uga> feierfox: sda=first disk. sdb=second one
[10:04] <ozehka> yes, mostly caused by corrupt memory
[10:05] <feierfox> mount: can't find /dev/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:05] <dappermuis> yip, or bad programming :)
[10:05] <ozehka> yes... but all programs are bad coded? :P
[10:05] <uga> feierfox: okay. Then try this:  "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[10:05] <uga> feierfox: it should work as root (with sudo)
[10:05] <ozehka> eclipse, firefox, totem, ...?
[10:06] <feierfox> hmmm
[10:06] <feierfox> :/
[10:06] <uga> what, didn't it work?
[10:06] <quixogre> anyone recommend a good virtual mmachine for linux? would like to run my xp partition soemtimes
[10:06] <uga> quixogre: VirtualBox or VMWare
[10:06] <feierfox> it shows me many options how to use this command
[10:06] <quixogre> !VMware
[10:06] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[10:06] <ozehka> lets exclude the "corrupt memory"... what could be the problem then?
[10:06] <uga> feierfox: what did you type exactly?
[10:07] <feierfox> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt ext3
[10:07] <uga> feierfox: did I write "ext3" in my line?
[10:07] <uga> so why did you? =)
[10:07] <uga> I never do mistakes, okay? :P
[10:07] <feierfox> i should say, that i 'm using the unstable gutsy
[10:07] <feierfox> because it asked me for it
[10:08] <feierfox> you line: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:08] <dappermuis> ozekha: i have no idea - the fact that its happening to more than on program is troubling
[10:08] <uga> feierfox: uh-oh... if it asked for partition type, it means it didn't recognise it. That means it's not ext3
[10:08] <feierfox> but it is!
[10:08] <uga> feierfox: try "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[10:08] <feierfox> mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[10:08] <ozehka> dappermuis: Use auto-complete. My nick's not ozekha ;-)
[10:08] <uga> feierfox: okay, the second disk wasn't detected by the kernel, then
[10:09] <feierfox> ah
[10:09] <uga> feierfox: ls /dev/sd*
[10:09] <ozehka> dappermuis: So it's quite likely that it's the memory. Could it be the HD too?
[10:09] <feierfox> i had the same problem with the unstable feisty!
[10:09] <uga> does it show anything like sdc, sdd...?
[10:09] <dappermuis> ozehka, lol - oops
[10:09] <feierfox> in my community more and more people had the same problem
[10:09] <ScorpKing> hi der dappermuis!
[10:09] <bleaked> so i had a failing root drive (ide), so i recently replaced it with a sata drive, then reinstalled.  everything worked until i removed the ide drive.  now it will not boot.  so i loaded up the live cd, then grub, located stage1 (hd0,0), set the root, then setup on hd0.  now grub loads with all of my old menu entries, but none of them work, giving an error 21 and something about the disk not being there.  i tried editing the grub config
[10:09] <bleaked> from within grub, and it seems to attempt to boot, but the loading bar just idles.   is there a way i can blow away all entries, build a fresh grub install on the correct drive pointing to the correct kernel?
[10:09] <dappermuis> ozehka: i don't know - never heard of hard drive causing a segmentation fault
[10:09] <feierfox> it only could fixed with downgrading the kernel
[10:09] <uga> feierfox: I had probs with an IDE drive, not with SATA
[10:09] <dappermuis> ScorpKing: hiya!
[10:09] <feierfox> so i hope they will bring a fix in the next kernelpatch
[10:09] <quixogre> ozekha, what distro you running?
[10:10] <feierfox> it'sSATA2
[10:10] <uga> feierfox: what's the motherboard?
[10:10] <ozehka> quixogre: Use autocomplete :D I'm using kubuntu 7.04
[10:10] <feierfox> ASUS ASRockK7...4A or something
[10:10] <uga> feierfox: give the Asus CD a try... it may contain drivers
[10:10] <feierfox> the HD is a SAMSUNG Spinpoint SATA2
[10:10] <uga> just like mine did. I found out thanks to genii
[10:10] <quixogre> ozehka: sorry. and when does the core dump occur?
[10:11] <feierfox> i think i should wait for gutsy become stable
[10:11] <ozehka> the longer kubuntu runs, the more likely starting programs causes core dumps....
[10:11] <ozehka> like now, i can't start firefox, eclipse etc
[10:11] <uga> feierfox: give the CD a try... if the drivers are there, it's only about loading their module. Both gutsy and festy live CDs failed to install on this box
[10:11] <uga> badly
[10:11] <ozehka> I think I'll run memtest86 for an hour or so...
[10:11] <thomas_> how do you remove a directory if it has stuff in it without caring that its not empty
[10:11] <uga> gutsy's runtime kernel is okay though
[10:12] <feierfox> nono, with feisty everything works fine!
[10:12] <feierfox> the trouble starts with upgrading to unstable gutsy
[10:12] <uga> feierfox: yeah, and Santa will bring me a porsche for xmas
[10:12] <uga> sure =)
[10:12] <ozehka> thomas_: rm -r dir/ (but I [unix-noob]  am not sure :D)
[10:12] <quixogre> ozehka: if its occurring habitually with time, could be memory, hard drive, swap space, processor overheating, lots of things
[10:12] <feierfox> but thanks a lot for your help!
[10:13] <uga> feierfox: as far as you can survive without second disk till gutsy is out...
[10:13] <feierfox> reboot :/
[10:13] <feierfox> lol
[10:13] <feierfox> fromt htis point :(((
[10:13] <quixogre> thomas_: man rm
[10:13] <feierfox> more than a half month :/
[10:14] <quixogre> !man
[10:14] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:14] <feierfox> and it isnt said, that it will then for sure :O
[10:14] <thomas_> ozehka: k ;)
[10:14] <ozehka> quixogre: Ah yes, btw - if I restart the X-Server (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace) and relogin, progs work again
[10:14] <xenol> quixogre:  one detail about man, how can i cancel it and return to terminal?
[10:14] <ozehka> thomas_: Does it work? Man, am I leet B-)
[10:14] <feierfox> but, its possible, that the kernel-fix for my problem comes out tonight
[10:14] <uga> feierfox: I'm not that patient... if something I "buy" doesn't work, I either fix it in less than 2 days, or ditch it ;)
[10:14] <quixogre> xenol: :q
[10:15] <feierfox> and go to gutsy.unstable was my own fault (right word?)
[10:15] <xenol> quixogre:  ty :*
[10:15] <thomas_> ozehka: I think you're right
[10:15] <uga> feierfox: I was half-forced to do so
[10:15] <quixogre> wish more people knew how to read man pages.....
[10:15] <uga> but I'm pretty sure your second disk issue is only about loading a module...
[10:16] <feierfox> hmmm
[10:16] <quixogre> ozehka: so refreshing xWINDOWS FIXES THE PROBLEM?
[10:16] <quixogre> sorry for caps
[10:16] <ozehka> yes
[10:16] <feierfox> i coult take it as a essentiell expirience
[10:16] <feierfox> "how to life after a HD-head-crash"
[10:16] <uga> =)
[10:16] <feierfox> or something..
[10:17] <quixogre> ozehka: its been YEARS since i diagnosed a core file...but think thats what you need to do, to narrow down the problem.
[10:17] <ozehka> quixogre: A what? Sounds complicated :P
[10:18] <uga> feierfox: you could always install the feisty kernel in gutsy
[10:18] <quixogre> ozehka: grep for a file with core in the title....paste it to the clipboard thingy. hopefully me or one of the gurus can figure it out
[10:18] <thomas_> ozehka: hey do you know if you can tell what are files and folders when issuing the command tree?
[10:18] <uga> feierfox: if it's a kernel bug, it should get you fixed
[10:18] <ozehka> quixogre: ok thanks a lot
[10:19] <quixogre> ozehka: hehe it is...segmentation fault creates a "dump" of what was happening when the process crashed....usually a good indication of whats causing the crash
[10:19] <uga> feierfox: also, make sure there's no /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1... it may have taken a different name somehow?
[10:19] <quixogre> !core dump
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about core dump - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <ozehka> thomas_: Sorry...?
[10:20] <uga> quixogre: yup, but those dumps are only created when it's the root running, right?
[10:20] <feierfox> changing the kernel? are i'm linus torvalds?
[10:20] <uga> feierfox: who changed changing the kernel. Changing from one kernel to another
[10:20] <uga> installing a .deb file =)
[10:20] <quixogre> uga, dont think so...used to diagnose core files for users at motorola...
[10:20] <quixogre> linux may be different though...
[10:20] <ozehka> quixogre: Where are these core files located?
[10:21] <thomas_> ozehka: ok i have files and folders right....and when I issue "tree", it lists everything i have in this folder. However I would like to distinguish folders from files
[10:21] <uga> quixogre: uhm... I'm pretty sure I always got dumps only as root in the past... uhm... anyway, lets check next time ;
[10:21] <uga> ozehka: they are dumped in the directory you run, iirc
[10:21] <quixogre> ozekha, check the root directory. if not, there, look in the directory of the application thats crashing
[10:21] <ozehka> thomas_: ls?
[10:22] <ozehka> here, depending the type, they have different colors...
[10:22] <thomas_> ozehka: using "tree" :S
[10:22] <thomas_> ozehka: that's for ls
[10:22] <ozehka> ah, that's a prog - sorry can't help
[10:24] <quixogre> afk
[10:25] <ozehka> quixogre: Ah, a file called "nautilus-debug-log.txt" was created
[10:25] <quixogre> !paste | ozehka
[10:25] <ubotu> ozehka: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:25] <ozehka> hmm, when i delete the file, it's created again :P
[10:26] <ozehka> and its getting bigger and bigger...
[10:26] <quixogre> let it get bigger then
[10:26] <ozehka> its basically just containing lots of these lines:
[10:26] <ozehka> 0x8187488 2007/09/27 21:21:21.5525 (USER): debug log dumped due to signal 11
[10:27] <ozehka> i hope, you don't mind that i post this here in the channel - because i don't consider this as "large text"
[10:27] <quixogre> run tail -f *filename* watch for lines that look like english
[10:28] <uga> lol
[10:28] <uga> ignore chinese ones ?=
[10:28] <quixogre> hehe or hex ones ;)
[10:28] <ozehka> english is only.. debug log dumped due to signal 11
[10:29] <uga> maybe a gdb traceback would provide more information?
[10:30] <quixogre> lol uga ya lost me. wassat?
[10:30] <uga> quixogre: gdb is the gnu debugger. you run the application with "gdb appname"
[10:30] <ozehka> its still growing and grwoing, already 5 mb :P
[10:30] <uga> then type "run" to execute it
[10:30] <uga> and once it crashes, you type "bt" to get a backtrace
[10:31] <uga> that should tell you what last functions the program went trhough, when it crashed
[10:31] <uga> but it needs debugging information compiled in for that
[10:31] <ozehka> I'm gonna refresh XServer... brb
[10:31] <quixogre> uga, MIGHT work...but problem isnt with a specific program. ALL apps seem to be core dumping after a period of time
[10:32] <uga> quixogre: that might mean a bug in a very common library
[10:32] <uga> gdb should follow libraries etc
[10:32] <uga> quixogre: does it happen with gui apps? only kde apps? also command line tools?
[10:33] <uga> what's that gets all those applications in common
[10:33] <quixogre> uga dont think so. is happening with firefox/other common apps, running on kubuntu 7.04 refreshing/restarting xwindows seems to stop it for a while
[10:33] <WoahWoah> Hey
[10:33] <WoahWoah> I went to search for a packet sniffer with Adept manager, went to install it and then went to "apply changes"
[10:33] <WoahWoah> does anyone know how I can open the program?
[10:33] <uga> quixogre: okay, so it's possibly X related, rather than application related
[10:33] <WoahWoah> Thanks!
[10:33] <uga> quixogre: what driver?
[10:34] <quixogre> uga yeah. thinking so...
[10:34] <uga> nv? nvidia? ati?
[10:34] <quixogre> uga: not sure, will have to wait for him to come back, and ask ;)
[10:34] <ozehka> i'm back :P
[10:34] <uga> quixogre: btw, it's not only related to firefox apps, right?
[10:34] <uga> ie, firefox, thunderbird, ... *zilla
[10:34] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: In adept, look up the program you've installed and click on "details", there you should be able to find something like "installed" files.
[10:34] <uga> quixogre: oh, I thought it was yours, failing
[10:34] <quixogre> UGA: CORRECT, HE LISTED SEVERAL APPS, FIREFOX WAS ONLY ONE I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY THOUGH
[10:35] <quixogre> sorry for caps
[10:35] <stdin> WoahWoah: depends what you installed, if it's a GUI it'd be in the KMenu, else it's a command line app
[10:35] <ozehka> uga: nope, firefox, videoplayers (totem, kaffeine), eclipse, ...
[10:35] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: Then look for an entry like /bin/foo or /usr/bin/foo , where foo is the name of your program
[10:35] <WoahWoah> Thanks guys
[10:35] <uga> ozehka: what's the Xorg driver you are using?
[10:35] <anthronaut> np
[10:35] <ozehka> but would be much more probably ... these are just programs i frequently use
[10:35] <ozehka> uga: err... how to look up? :P
[10:35] <WoahWoah> How do I search for entries anthronaut?
[10:36] <genii> back
[10:36] <uga> ozehka: edit /etc/Xorg.conf
[10:36] <quixogre> wb
[10:36] <uga> sorry no
[10:36] <uga>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:36] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: The same way you've searched for the files you wanted to install
[10:36] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: Search: YourFileName and then hit Enter
[10:36] <ozehka> uga: i'll paste
[10:37] <ozehka> !paste
[10:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:37] <uga> ozehka: not full =)
[10:37] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: The program you've installed should be tagged "installed"
[10:37] <ozehka> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38851/
[10:38] <uga> ozehka: uh?
[10:38] <uga> that only shows the header  =)
[10:38] <uga> not the configuration
[10:38] <ozehka> ah lol
[10:38] <ozehka> I thought you just need some version numbers :D
[10:38] <uga> it sounds like you're using the nvidia binary driver though?
[10:38] <ozehka> so full :P
[10:38] <ozehka> yes
[10:38] <uga> okay, that's all I was asking
[10:38] <uga> is it latest nvidia binary?
[10:38] <genii> uga: My p5k se still seems to be locking up sporadically ...bleh. Later tonight gonna swap out to an ASRock board someone gave me 2 of and see if it's any better, keep the Asus with another testing Feisty on it to work out the bugs.
[10:39] <uga> ozehka: and did you make sure it's not kubuntu's lrm driver that got loaded?
[10:39] <ozehka> uga: quite new
[10:39] <ozehka> lrm?
[10:39] <uga> ozehka: yes. it happens here  unless you uninstall linux-restricted-modules
[10:39] <uga> lrm drivers add their own nvidia before Xorg loads the proper one
[10:39] <ozehka> ah yes...
[10:39] <ozehka> but nvidia logo is shown at startup
[10:40] <uga> genii: ugh. Runs fine here, gutsy now
[10:40] <uga> genii: I haven't rebooted after the last kernel upgrade though
[10:40] <robert__> siemanolek :D
[10:40] <WoahWoah> Ok it is anthronaut
[10:40] <uga> ozehka: lrm ones don't?
[10:40] <ozehka> no idea :P
[10:40] <WoahWoah> When I search for the file though, where do I go to?
[10:40] <quixogre> afk again. smoke break
[10:40] <soniapor> Al gn spanish
[10:41] <uga> ozehka: easy test... from tty1: /etc/init.d/kdm stop. rmmod nvidia. /etc/init.d/kdm start
[10:41] <uga> that should force loading the proper one
[10:41] <ozehka> uga: i just learned from some readme, when installing nvidia drivers, that if the logo was shown up, the installation was successfull
[10:41] <ozehka> ok
[10:41] <uga> soniapor: entra en #kubuntu-es
[10:41] <soniapor> okis
[10:42] <uga> soniapor: si el canal est muerto, avisa, y me paso por all. Creo que es lo habitual ;)
[10:42] <manolo> sometimes the xserver uses a lower screen resolution after start up and I have to restart it to get my desired 1024x768 which is a little bit annoying :-/
[10:43] <ozehka> uga: Could have warned me, that I'll be kicked out :P
[10:43] <uga> ouch, I thought you knew
[10:43] <uga> that stops kde's login manager... and the sessions opened by it
[10:43] <ozehka> Yes, when I read something about "kdm stop", I assumed something like that
[10:44] <uga> the only way to rmmod (remove the module) nvidia module is stopping Xorg
[10:44] <uga> else it doesn't work
[10:44] <ozehka> so now what?
[10:44] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: wait a min
[10:44] <uga> ozehka: now at least we know you're using the nvidia binary driver you installed manually
[10:44] <ozehka> (btw, I stopped kdm first - i was kicked out, kubuntu logo was shown, i pressed strg+alt+f1 to enter rmmod nvidia and kdm start)
[10:45] <uga> ozehka: are you using anything like beryl/compiz?
[10:45] <uga> ozehka: yup, that's right. I hope you run rmmod nvidia as root?
[10:45] <uga> else it'll have failed. I guess you did, else kdm stop wouldn't work either
[10:45] <ozehka> yes
[10:45] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: alright, when you've found the file in your list, there should be something like "Request Removal" and "Details" beneath the description, got that?
[10:45] <ozehka> beryl/compiz: I installed sth like that i think...
[10:46] <uga> ozehka: do you get anything like window shadows, wobly windows, translucent window decorations?
[10:46] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: I've got the german translation, don't know the real words.
[10:46] <uga> ozehka: that's compiz/beryl
[10:46] <ozehka> yes I know what that is...
[10:46] <uga> but it can be buggy. That's why I was asking
[10:46] <ozehka> xgl i think
[10:46] <uga> you don't need xgl to run beryl
[10:46] <uga> you can do so on normal Xorg. xgl was rather unstable
[10:47] <ozehka> well, i think i can choose - kde, gnome or xgl
[10:47] <uga> oh, weird since xgl isn't a desktop session type
[10:47] <ozehka> but this is simple kde, no 3d, transparence, etc :-)
[10:47] <emilsedgh> ozehka: that methos, and xgl, are deprecated
[10:47] <emilsedgh> s/methos/method
[10:47] <ozehka> tsk..
[10:47] <WoahWoah> Ok anthronaut :p
[10:47] <uga> ozehka: okay... lets see if everything goes fine. Else it's possibly a bug in either xorg, or nvidia binary driver
[10:47] <WoahWoah> Yeah
[10:47] <uga> ozehka: if it all goes fine, you'll have to remove the buggy lrm driver
[10:47] <emilsedgh> ozehka: AIGLX is now being used on X.org which doesnt need another new session
[10:48] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: right, click on "details"
[10:48] <genii> uga: I thought at first overheating but it's not. RH with the Asus rpms work fine, i may do some Alien chroot on them and see if a deb could be made
[10:48] <uga> genii:  22:48:48 up 4 days,  2:33,  2 users,  load average: 0.01, 0.08, 0.04
[10:48] <uga> :/
[10:49] <ozehka> uga: Just tell me what to do ^^
[10:49] <uga> genii: what cpu?
[10:49] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: Then you can choose between some options and "installed files"
[10:49] <uga> genii: Core2 quad 2.44, here
[10:49] <WoahWoah> Yes anthronaut
[10:49] <uga> genii: and the 4gig corsair mem modules I mentioned
[10:49] <uga> genii: also, running 64bit gutsy
[10:50] <genii> uga: I/ve tried 2 different ones now. First was Pentium D 935 (Dual 3.2 cores) Second was Core2 Duo 6300 (dual 1.6 64 bit cores)
[10:50] <uga> I wonder if any of those are different and might affect you
[10:50] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: Ok, then, under "installed files" you'll find all the locations of the files that adept installed for you. Look for an entry like /bin/xyz or /usr/bin/xyz
[10:50] <uga> ozehka: well, you need to test it. Does it get buggy easily?
[10:50] <genii> uga: I'm using OCZ DDR2-800, 500Gb Seagate SATA2 drive
[10:51] <ozehka> "it"?
[10:51] <genii> uga: You put a secondary video in there?
[10:51] <uga> ozehka: ie, try to reproduce the problem. If you can't anymore, then it's the lrm problem, and apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules
[10:51] <uga> genii: no, just a single video card, 8500gx. Actually, where can you plug a second card on this thing
[10:52] <ozehka> ah i see
[10:52] <uga> genii: that's something I was wondering. I get all confused with these pci express things =)
[10:52] <ozehka> just remove? ;-P
[10:52] <genii> uga: I'm thinking my video card may be the issue. PCI-E NVidia 7600 GT...I disabled the onboard
[10:52] <WoahWoah> anthronaut: I can use the search facility to search for files
[10:53] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: What's the name of your program?
[10:53] <genii> uga: Heh :) Same spot as on AGP boards, last one next to power supply side
[10:54] <uga|away> genii: sorry, the rj45 cable is loose...
[10:54] <uga|away> genii: 8500gt here. What I wonder is if you can actually have two gfx cards for twin video, or you need to use double output one
[10:55] <uga|away> does the 7600 have a twin output?
[10:55] <WoahWoah> Just uninstalled them anthronaut
[10:55] <WoahWoah> Would you recommend any programs?
[10:55] <genii> uga|away: I have a twin-head DVI (Nvidia 7600 GT) I diabled my onboard for now
[10:55] <uga> okay, that explains
[10:55] <genii> *disabled
[10:55] <uga> I believe the 8500 can do twin only through dvi+crt
[10:55] <uga> not two through dvi
[10:55] <WoahWoah> I'm quite new to this KUbuntu
[10:56] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: programs to do what?
[10:56] <genii> work, BRB
[10:56] <uga> genii: cya
[10:56] <WoahWoah> Network Tools anthronaut
[10:56] <WoahWoah> By the way thanks for your help
[10:56] <quixogre> WoahWoah: wireshark
[10:56] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: network tools to do what exactly?
[10:56] <PhinnFort> rrbiz: right click on the battery and click "restore"
[10:57] <uga> WoahWoah: traceroute
[10:57] <poison--> llo guys
[10:58] <WoahWoah> It seems I've downloaded one already (before)
[10:58] <uga> poison--: that's not fair
[10:58] <WoahWoah> I can use that on the shell can I not uga? :p
[10:58] <uga> poison--: I want another one =(
[10:58] <poison--> lol
[10:58] <uga> WoahWoah: yup
[10:58] <poison--> uga rules :D
[10:58] <uga> that's better =)
[10:58] <genii> poison--: That and a coffee and I'm all set :)
[10:58] <poison--> eheheh
[10:59] <poison--> sup buds?
[10:59] <poison--> tomorrow im gonna quit windows for good here at work
[10:59] <quixogre> WoahWoah: sudo apt-get wireshark ... its a GUI tool for monitoring/testing network traffic
[10:59] <uga> genii: I'll make coffee when I finish... you're invited to come over... 3 is better than two ;)
[10:59] <WoahWoah> Ok, I've located a file I downloaded, and when I go to open it nothing seems to happen
[10:59] <WoahWoah> Ok
[10:59] <poison--> setting up a machine running virtualbox so i can use the damn progries to make unatend windows cds
[10:59] <rrbiz> klaptop isn't saving my performance profile, is there a .conf or something that i can make it stick ?
[11:00] <thomas_> why won't this WORK! rename ../richmondhill/annex annex2
[11:00] <quixogre> thomas_: what error you getting?
[11:01] <thomas_> quixogre: none lol
[11:01] <thomas_> but it doesn't show its changed
[11:01] <quixogre> do ls. does annex2 show up?
[11:02] <zyp1> I wonder, in the gutsy, is it dolphin or d3plhin? and what version, and is it udated?
[11:02] <zyp1> updated
[11:03] <uga> sh33tlphin ;)
[11:03] <genii> uga: and how far again is that from toronto?
[11:03] <thomas_> isn't this the proper sytax: rename file file1
[11:03] <quixogre> thomas, yup
[11:03] <uga> genii: how good are you at swimming straight in atlantic strength water forces?
[11:04] <quixogre> or try mv file file1
[11:04] <uga> zyp1: 0.9.2
[11:05] <thomas_> I get no error and dir shows the same name
[11:05] <genii> uga: Guess you'll have to keep the coffeepot warm for a while....
[11:05] <zyp1> ok... thanks
[11:05] <uga> genii: the hotties poison-- sent me will help keeping it warm ;)
[11:05] <poison--> eheheh
[11:06] <WoahWoah> Thanks for your help anthronaut
[11:06] <genii> heh
[11:06] <anthronaut> WoahWoah: you're welcome!
[11:07] <quixogre> dangit, how do i subscribe to this brazilian hotties list???
[11:07] <uga> anyway, lets keep on topic. Else tonight I'll have nightmares of apt-get installing brazillian hotties ;)
[11:07] <poison--> lol
[11:07] <ScorpKing> welcome poison-- :D
[11:07] <poison--> heeeeeyyyyyyyyyy ScorpKing
[11:07] <ScorpKing> how goes?
[11:07] <poison--> toothache
[11:07] <poison--> :(
[11:08] <ScorpKing> ouch!
[11:08] <poison--> apt-get installing brazillian hotties  <---- rox
[11:08] <poison--> lmfao
[11:08] <thomas_> "Bareword "example" not allowed while "strict subs" in use"
[11:08] <ScorpKing> lol
[11:08] <stdin> !ot | stdin is watching you
[11:08] <ubotu> stdin is watching you: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:09] <thomas_> whats that mean?
[11:10] <uga> thomas_: that you can't talk about brazilian gals, unless konqueror crashes when displaying them and you got to report a problem
[11:10] <poison--> means freddy is comin for u
[11:10] <poison--> :D
[11:11] <thomas_> what? no my problem: "Bareword "example" not allowed while "strict subs" in use"
[11:11] <uga> uhm. That system tray application checking for updates... it only warns about security updates?
[11:11] <uga> because it doesn't turn up most of the times here, when there are new packs
[11:12] <genii> uga: I'm pretty sure it's criteria is set ti critical instead of all the updates
[11:12] <uga> thomas_: I don't think the comment was targetted at you...
[11:13] <quixogre> t?homas, what are you typing to get that message
[11:13] <uga> genii: ah cheers
[11:13] <Juacom99> hey quiox (Y)
[11:13] <quixogre> thomas_:
[11:13] <quixogre> hola juacom :)
[11:13] <thomas_> rename example example2
[11:13] <Juacom99> lol
[11:14] <Juacom99> how is texas today??
[11:14] <uga> thomas_: rename works with regular expressions, afaik
[11:14] <thomas_> quixogre: huh?
[11:14] <uga> thomas_: if you want to rename a file, you just "mv example example2"
[11:15] <quixogre> thomas_: try mv example example1
[11:15] <newsense07> whats the easiest way to share an internet connection ?
[11:15] <newsense07> whats the easiest way to share an internet connection ?
[11:15] <Juacom99> a lan
[11:15] <Juacom99> with a router
[11:15] <thomas_> quixogre: why doesn't rename work?
[11:15] <quixogre> newsense07: a hub. 20 bucks at best buy
[11:15] <newsense07> haha
[11:15] <uga> newsense07: an adsl router with several rj45 connectors?
[11:16] <newsense07> i got a switch and 2 network cards in this computer
[11:16] <newsense07> im connected to a wireless network but dont have physical access and have a computer with no wifi card
[11:16] <Juacom99> but switches don't shear an adsl dosn't it??
[11:16] <quixogre> thomas_: renames a perl command. stick with mv
[11:17] <uga> thomas_: "man rename"
[11:17] <uga> will show you what it does
[11:17] <newsense07> i understand networking but just dont know how to route incoming packets on eth0 to go through wifi0 connected to a wireless router
[11:17] <newsense07> never had to do it in linux
[11:17] <thomas_> quixogre: ty
[11:17] <uga> thomas_: it takes multiple files and renames them replacing certain content in their name. The replacement is defined by a perl regular expression
[11:18] <uga> not the easiest command to use ;)
[11:18] <ScorpKing> if i do sudo cp -rp ../../home/* /mnt/mylaptop/ (nfs dir) i get "cp: cannot create directory `/mnt/mylaptop/ecc': Permission denied" :( what's wrong? can't root copy to nfs?
[11:18] <stdin> newsense07: use firestarter, it has a GUI to do that
[11:18] <newsense07> stdin: thank you very ,much
[11:19] <quixogre> ScorpKing: think nfs has its own ownership/permissions
[11:19] <uga> heh, it should
[11:19] <ScorpKing> huh? ls -l /mnt/mylaptop/ and i own the files.
[11:19] <uga> else it'd be a real nice vulnerability ;)
[11:20] <ScorpKing> so what now?
[11:20] <uga> ScorpKing: does the remote nfs server allow write access?
[11:20] <quixogre> otherwise any jacka$$ with a laptop could plugin to the network with a laptop running redhat, and pwn all the nfs drives
[11:20] <ScorpKing> to me yea
[11:20] <uga> uhm
[11:20] <bradley> Quick question in the lull, Does anyone have an nvidia 8500gt with hd (hdmi) output (not DVI) working?
[11:20] <ScorpKing> it only allow acces to my ip
[11:21] <uga> bradley: sorry, vga output here
[11:22] <quixogre> ScorpKing: how are you authenticating with the remote nfs server?
[11:22] <ScorpKing> uhm, /mnt/hdb1/data <IP_ADDRESS>(rw,sync) that's in the exports file
[11:23] <ScorpKing> and all the files on there being owned by uid 1000
[11:23] <quixogre> ScorpKing: not sure of the exact syntax, but you need to set read/write/execute permissions in there too
[11:23] <ScorpKing> i have all those
[11:24] <ScorpKing> it only fails when i use sudo
[11:24] <uga> oh
[11:24] <quixogre> ahhh okay. yeah. roots power is only on the machine your physically on
[11:24] <quixogre> root doesnt have root priviledges on an NFS drive
[11:25] <quixogre> for security purposes
[11:25] <uga> ScorpKing: "If I were to hazard a guess I'd say it's more to do with your nfs than sudo. Most NFS servers disallow root to write them"
[11:25] <uga> from sudo users forum
[11:25] <uga> http://www.gratisoft.us/pipermail/sudo-users/2005-December/002695.html
[11:25] <ScorpKing> how do i enable or fix that.
[11:25] <ScorpKing> looking...
[11:26] <quixogre> hehe not real sure you SHOULD fix that....
[11:26] <ScorpKing> it's only me on the box. :) backups
[11:26] <uga> ScorpKing: http://www.gratisoft.us/pipermail/sudo-users/2005-December/002697.html
[11:26] <uga> that's what could be a solution, pointed out as answer
[11:26] <poison--> so sweet using flashfxp with wine
[11:26] <poison--> weeeeeeee
[11:27] <quixogre> ScorpKing: meh. it sounds like a gaping security issue to me....
[11:27] <Daisuke_Ido> poison--: i fail to see how wine is sweet under any circumstances, but hey, whatever trips your trigger
[11:27] <ScorpKing> thanks guys. yeah, i don't need security here. my biggest worry is someone breaking in and stealing it.
[11:28] <uga> poison--: lemme know if you make wine work under x64
[11:29] <poison--> <Daisuke_Ido, eva tried to use FlashFXP with Linux?
[11:29] <poison--> i need to use it all day long
[11:29] <poison--> so.. before i install virtualbox, im usin wine
[11:29] <poison--> and its sweet dat i can actually use any win appz running kubuntu
[11:31] <quixogre> im trying to set up a virtual machine on my linux drive, using my xp partition for the data/etc...any recommendation on what to use/where to start? someone mentioned VMware, but cant figure out how to apt-get it
[11:31] <quixogre> !vmware |me
[11:31] <ubotu> me: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[11:32] <Daisuke_Ido> "that"
[11:32] <Daisuke_Ido> "apps"
[11:32] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[11:32] <jrattner> what package do i need to be able to ./configure
[11:33] <stdin> !b-e
[11:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:33] <uga> quixogre: vmware isn't free. You need to go to vmware site, register and download. Anyway, you can install VirtualBox, which is completely free
[11:33] <uga> quixogre: register, download, and pay to run, I meant to say ;)
[11:33] <Daisuke_Ido> vmware server is free (as in beer)
[11:33] <uga> yeah, but limited
[11:33] <Daisuke_Ido> but nice FUD
[11:33] <uga> what fud
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> virtualbox kicks its butt in every way :)
[11:34] <quixogre> uga: thanks for the tip. where can i find info on virtualbox?
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> !virtualbox
[11:34] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> uga: "pay to run"
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> server is *free*
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> as in free
[11:34] <Daisuke_Ido> no cost
[11:34] <uga> Daisuke_Ido: as I said. VMware server is limited
[11:34] <uga> VMWare workstation, what everyone wants, isn't free
[11:35] <Daisuke_Ido> but you don't *have* to pay to use it, you're implying it's necessary
[11:35] <ScorpKing> uga and quixogre: is it possible to pipe sudo cp -rp /home/* - to - cp as myself to nfs?
[11:35] <Daisuke_Ido> workstation, yes
[11:35] <poison--> <quixogre, virtualbox is actually easy to use
[11:35] <uga> Daisuke_Ido: I don't consider vmware player an dvmware server inside the "vmware" definition
[11:35] <uga> at least not in the general use for those apps from linux users
[11:36] <uga> just that. you understood. He did too
[11:36] <uga> no fud
[11:36] <poison--> im running xp with virtualbox on my other kubuntu machine
[11:36] <poison--> quite fast too
[11:36] <poison--> lol@ScorpKing
[11:36] <Daisuke_Ido> vmware isn't vmware, i like that logic
[11:36] <Daisuke_Ido> but now i drop it
[11:37] <poison--> man i need beer and food
[11:37] <poison--> !offtopic
[11:37] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:37] <poison--> :D
[11:38] <jrattner> !be
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <jrattner> !b-e
[11:38] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:38] <poison--> woot
[11:39] <uga> Daisuke_Ido: not sure how much you get paid to support vmware, but seriously, if you can do _for free_ what you can do for free with Virtual Box (which kicks its butt as you said), you're a damn nice sysadmin,a nd I really got to congratulate you
[11:40] <Ben_Cs> hello
[11:40] <poison--> !hi
[11:40] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:40] <Ben_Cs> copying files through local network from my WinXP PC to my xubuntu pc goes fine. but the other way around is as slow as downloading files from Internet. WTF?!!!
[11:40] <Ben_Cs> *kubuntu
[11:40] <poison--> use ftp.. faster
[11:40] <poison--> i know i do
[11:41] <poison--> seems the port as issues with win
[11:41] <Ben_Cs> but smb should be ok, so y is it slower then WinXP to WinXP transfer?
[11:41] <poison--> gFTP, run a win ftp server and youre done
[11:41] <poison--> change ports ans try
[11:41] <poison--> and*
[11:42] <uga> uh? who needs gFTP
[11:42] <uga> konquero can do ftp just fine
[11:42] <poison--> i do :D
[11:43] <poison--> and i luv it
[11:43] <uga> uhm okay, to each their own
[11:43] <uga> I prefer the swiss army knives
[11:43] <poison--> eheheh
[11:43] <uga> all in one app
[11:43] <Daisuke_Ido> uga: devil's advocate :)
[11:43] <poison--> dont use konq much
[11:43] <poison--> too much time to load
[11:43] <Daisuke_Ido> i use vbox on my laptop religiously for schoolwork
[11:44] <stdin> konqueror is preloaded in kde...
[11:44] <uga> poison--: konquis usually preloaded
[11:44] <poison--> i quite school sumtin like 30 years ago :D
[11:44] <Daisuke_Ido> because vmware couldn't do it :)
[11:44] <poison--> uga, u forgot i use vmware with this machine
[11:44] <poison--> everitin is slow
[11:44] <uga> poison--: so use vbox? :P
[11:44] <poison--> tomorrow will change it
[11:44] <poison--> eheheh
[11:45] <poison--> if i could import with virtualbox from vmware, sure
[11:45] <poison--> i would
[11:45] <uga> no well, I was kidding with that. But there's one thing that I like a lot about vbox. It's easy, much easier to get their modules working
[11:45] <Daisuke_Ido> uh
[11:45] <uga> poison--: you can
[11:45] <poison--> yes, it way easy
[11:45] <Daisuke_Ido> it can use vmware format images
[11:45] <poison--> i can!??!?!
[11:45] <poison--> wtf
[11:45] <uga> yup
[11:45] <poison--> sweet
[11:45] <ScorpKing> poison--: i did. :D
[11:46] <poison--> ScorpKing, youre from outofspace
[11:46] <poison--> :D
[11:46] <ScorpKing> hmmm, maybe. :)
[11:46] <poison--> ehehehhe
[11:46] <poison--> gonna do sum testin here
[11:47] <stdin> isn't it outer space, out of space is an error when your partition is full :)
[11:47] <uga> poison--: it's obvious.  But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[11:52] <Webbmaster> of course
[11:52] <uga> poison--: I believe konqueror should be able to sftp://
[11:52] <slackern> uga: http://filezilla-project.org/client_features.php that one supports just about everything also
[11:52] <poison--> humm
[11:52] <poison--> neva tried filezzila
[11:53] <uga> poison--: you don't need to install 10 apps to do what an app that you already got installed can do ;)
[11:53] <poison--> i used igo, but it crashes averytime it trys to list a ftp
[11:53] <poison--> uga, is konqie yer luver?
[11:53] <poison--> :D
[11:53] <slackern> filezilla is nice but it might not be in 7.04 repos yet
[11:53] <uga> poison--: I'm konqui's hidden lover
[11:54] <poison--> ahahahah
[11:54] <poison--> i bet
[11:54] <uga> I don't really know why you'd waste so many memory and disk resources, when a single running app can do all your tasks
[11:54] <uga> remember the konsole test vs the "xterm" rocks guys?
[11:55] <uga> xterm guys would brag about their lower memory and resource usage...
[11:55] <poison--> oh well, till i get used to kubuntu, need to try everitin
[11:55] <uga> but after opening tons of terminals... and having xterms not sharing any resources...
[11:55] <uga> and using a single konsole for tons of different terminals...
[11:56] <uga> poison--: all apps you mention are out of (k)ubuntu (k)ontext though ;)
[11:56] <poison--> yeap
[11:56] <uga> you're getting used to more... uhm.. (g)ubuntu
[11:56] <poison--> lmao
[11:57] <uga> I gotta get used to cycling... and you enter your porsche and run the keys
[11:57] <poison--> ehehheh
[11:57] <poison--> i will
[11:58] <poison--> k guys, time to go home
[11:58] <poison--> cya tomorrow
[11:58] <poison--> *gone*
[11:58] <ScorpKing> c ya
[11:58] <uga> gnight poison--. Have nice g nightmares ;)
[11:58] <ScorpKing> poison--: go now. :P
[11:59] <poison--> i have a brazilian hottie at home
[11:59] <poison--> no nightmares at all
[11:59] <ScorpKing> lol
[11:59] <uga> those heat up cpus a lot... be warned
[11:59] <poison--> *gone*
[11:59] <stdin> poison--: you can stop that now
[12:00] <uga> heh, I wonder if freenode got filtering utilities
[12:00] <uga> like if you mention certain keywords, it'll print [beep]  instead
[12:00] <ScorpKing> uga: i decided to use scp to backup. it's working. :D
[12:00] <intelikey> uga no.  but the ops will kick you out of the channel for it.
[12:01] <stdin> no it doesn't, wouldn't be very "free" would it
[12:01] <uga> intelikey: I know,  no need to warn me. But would be nice if it allowed per channel adjusting those
[12:01] <uga> stdin: well, channel maintenance tools
[12:01] <uga> per channel set by the ops
[12:01] <stdin> no, because that would be insane to implement
[12:02] <Daisuke_Ido> uga: like beeping out whenever someone says windows?
[12:02] <LjL> ...what?
[12:02] <stdin> and a huge resource hog
[12:02] <Daisuke_Ido> stdin: not really that tough
[12:02] <uga> Daisuke_Ido: no, rather things like "hottie"
[12:02] <uga> stdin: that's true
[12:03] <sainzeo> would anyone know why i'm unable to create a conversation with the groupwise plugin in Kopete - it gives me an error saying the chat cannot be created with error # 53560 - any suggestions?
[12:03] <stdin> sainzeo: no, but maybe people in #kopete know
[12:06] <sainzeo> stdin: thanks, i'll check it out
[12:07] <quixogre> back. miss anything exciting?
[12:07] <Russel> hiho
[12:07] <Russel> where are enviroments like $KDEDIRS set?
[12:09] <luca_> hi everyone
[12:09] <stdin> Russel: in the startkde script I think
[12:09] <luca_> my fn combo to modify luminosity in gutsy does not function anymore, someone has any ideas? :)
[12:09] <quixogre> !hi | luca_
[12:09] <ubotu> luca_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:10] <stdin> luca_: you wouldn't happen to be using a tashiba would you?
[12:10] <Russel> stdin: semse not so because they are used there
[12:10] <luca_> nope Dell
[12:11] <luca_> running Gutsy
[12:11] <ozehka> uga: still there?
[12:11] <luca_> the keys functioned until I upgraded
[12:11] <stdin> luca_: check in #ubuntu+1
[12:11] <luca_> only thing I have to complain about really, for the rest it shines :)
[12:11] <uga> ozehka: yes
[12:11] <luca_> stdin thanks
[12:11] <sainzeo> stdin: it doesn't appear there is anyone in #kopete
[12:12] <uga> ozehka: you run into trouble with the nvidia driver?
[12:12] <uga> again?
[12:12] <stdin> sainzeo: #kde is your next best bet then
[12:12] <intelikey> or ##linux
[12:12] <ozehka> uga: nope, not by now, I've been afk
[12:12] <uga> intelikey: too general =)
[12:12] <sainzeo> stdin: thanks again
[12:12] <uga> ozehka: ah, nice
[12:13] <stdin> Russel: $KDEDIRS is a KDE4 var, you have to set it manually afaik
[12:13] <quixogre> sainzeo: thought you figured out it was a known issue with kopete?
[12:13] <ozehka> uga: what did i do with rmmod nvidia?
[12:13] <uga> ozehka: you removed the loaded nvidia kernel module
[12:13] <sainzeo> quixogre: yeah, i'm just hoping there is someone who knows of a fix
[12:13] <sainzeo> quixogre: sorry to keep bothering you with it :(
[12:13] <ozehka> err.. so i'm running with what now?
[12:13] <Russel> i just saw it in compiling ktorrent because it says i install it somewhere else than default /usr
[12:13] <uga> ozehka: there's one package you have possibly installed. linux-restricted-modules. If you have, that includes its own nvidia driver
[12:13] <ozehka> lrm or nvidia binary?
[12:13] <quixogre> sainzeo: hehe not bothering me....good luck finding a workaround
[12:14] <uga> ozehka: it loads before the Nvidia-....run one you installed
[12:14] <Russel> is it set on your system?
[12:14] <sainzeo> quixogre: thanks dude
[12:14] <ozehka> hmm, and we wanted to test if the lrm-nvidia was corrupt?
[12:14] <uga> ozehka: so rmmod removed it, and after reloading Xorg, it'll have loaded the one Nvidia provided
[12:14] <uga> ozehka: it's older, and didn't work for me either
[12:14] <stdin> Russel: no.  are you sure you're not compiling the KDE4 version of ktorrent ?
[12:14] <uga> that's why I suggested you tested that
[12:14] <Russel> afaik there is no kde4 version
[12:14] <ozehka> ah, i see
[12:15] <Russel> and it compiled fine with kde3-dev :)
[12:15] <Russel> ok perhaps it is then not needed
[12:15] <uga> ozehka: if after all, you don't have any problems, then you just remove the package linux-restricted modules (it'll ask you to remove some linux general something too)
[12:15] <uga> and everything should run smooth
[12:15] <ozehka> err...
[12:15] <Russel> i just ask because my system is a bit broken :)
[12:16] <_2> broken ?
[12:16] <uga> ozehka: ie, if you run nvidia modules, it's best to run nvidia's installer and their latest package
[12:16] <ozehka> wouldn't it delete all the other modules too?
[12:16] <ozehka> which would be bad?
[12:16] <Russel> yes
[12:16] <uga> ozehka: no, just make sure it won't remove linux-image and the likes
[12:16] <uga> it won't remove them
[12:16] <uga> didn't here
[12:16] <Russel> i installed a slim system and installed later kubuntu-desktop but some things are not here and i had some problems with user setup
[12:16] <Russel> but it works :)
[12:16] <ozehka> how? apt-get delete linux-restricted-modules
[12:16] <quixogre> russel apt-get
[12:17] <uga> ozehka: apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules
[12:17] <Russel> quixogre: ?
[12:17] <_2> ozehka s/delete/remove/
[12:17] <ozehka> er.. yes, and how to deselect the other "important" stuff?
[12:17] <uga> tell me what it lists =)
[12:17] <uga> nothing should be important
[12:17] <_2> ozehka other important stuff ?
[12:17] <uga> ie, nothing should depend on proprietary drivers in kubuntu
[12:17] <ozehka> i have no idea
[12:18] <uga> _2: linux modules etc
[12:18] <ozehka> i thought lrm was one of the important packages
[12:18] <uga> ozehka: it'll be showing you what it will remove
[12:18] <uga> it'll show a list before you say "Y"
[12:18] <ozehka> okay, lemme try
[12:18] <uga> ozehka: dpkg -L linux-restricted-modules will show you what it installs
[12:18] <uga> I don't think there's much more than nvidia stuff
[12:19] <uga> _2: I believe there was a metapackage like linux-foo-general, or so
[12:19] <ozehka> eh?
[12:19] <ozehka> it could not find the package linux-restrichted-modules
[12:20] <Russel> thank you i am leaving now
[12:20] <_2> uga linux-restricted-modules-common
[12:20] <ozehka> ah, append the kernel?
[12:20] <ozehka> common, ok
[12:20] <uga> ozehka: you can use adept too, it helps searching
[12:20] <uga> linux-restricted-modules - Generic Linux restricted modules.
[12:20] <uga> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22-12-generic
[12:21] <uga> there's both
[12:21] <ozehka> it wants to remove: lrm-2.6.17-12-generic/lrm-2.6.20-16-generic/common/generic/nvidia-glx
[12:21] <uga> ozehka: it's fine
[12:21] <ozehka> okay...
[12:21] <uga> ozehka: one thing... have you got  the nvidia installer in hand?
[12:22] <jords> Just trying to upgrade my feisty to gutsy, and update-manager is giving me this error message: Failed to fetch http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/universe/source/Sources.bz2 MD5Sum mismatch
[12:22] <quixogre> _2: too much typing. just apt-get remove *
[12:22] <stdin> !gutsy | jords
[12:22] <ubotu> jords: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[12:22] <uga> ozehka: the nvidia installer might have overwritten some glx libraries. You may need to reinstall the nvidia binary again
[12:22] <ozehka> uga: no i haven't
[12:22] <_2> quixogre heh
[12:22] <uga> ozehka: ieh, kubuntu installed some. nvidia overwrote them. When uninstalling, kubuntu may remove nvidia ones
[12:22] <_2> quixogre \* maybe
[12:22] <uga> ozehka: I suggest you download the driver and reinstall
[12:23] <ozehka> okay, thanks
[12:23] <uga> ie, kdm stop, install it again, and kdm start
[12:24] <uga> ubotu: can you explain the reason for such weird names??
[12:24] <_2> quixogre apt-get remove '.*' would actually work.
[12:24] <uga> ie, ....
[12:24] <uga> !names
[12:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu has an $adjective $animal naming scheme, summarized (and with a list of suggested words which you can add to) at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[12:24] <quixogre> hehe
[12:24] <uga> oh, heh, clever bot, clever bot =)
[12:25] <zeroziat> Hey there people.
[12:25] <quixogre> !hi | zeroziat