[21:03] <JoshDreamland> pragmaticenigma: I know, the mouse setting is there, but I can't set any of those features because the mousepad tab is missing
[21:03] <ubox> nautilus-open-terminal is a proof-of-concept Nautilus extension
[21:03] <ubox> which allows you to open a terminal in arbitrary local folders.
[21:03] <ubox> C
[21:03] <ubox> :)
[21:03] <FloodBot1> ubox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:03] <pragmaticenigma> JoshDreamland: the real unfortunate situation here is the fact that Linux and Sony Laptops have a reputation for being like oil and water
[21:03] <ubox> let me install that
[21:04] <JoshDreamland> because it thinks it's a standard mouse
[21:04] <ubox> oops
[21:04] <pragmaticenigma> JoshDreamland: They are really hard to get working
[21:04] <JoshDreamland> well, then it's going back to the store
[21:04] <JoshDreamland> I'll grab a ThinkPad or something
[21:04] <Sid> hello guyz
[21:04] <magicianlord> yes
[21:04] <rhin0> i've given up finding a macro facility xmacro not very nice to set up
[21:04] <Sid> i need some help
[21:04] <Logan_WP> !ask | Sid
[21:05] <pragmaticenigma> JoshDreamland: If it thinks it's a standard mouse it's because it is default to that because it doesn't have the right driver for that device or the device identifies itself as only a simple mouse
[21:05] <Sid> i'm new for using ubuntu
[21:05] <erUSUL> !ask | Sid
[21:05] <Sid> n i even dont know how to play any video or audio on that
[21:05] <alex_> what is the url to access my local mysql server?
[21:05] <JoshDreamland> pragmaticenigma: here I can get new drivers?Anyw
[21:05] <Sid> there are no driver for that
[21:05] <erUSUL> !codecs | Sid
[21:06] <Darael> alex_: There's no url; what are you trying to do?
[21:06] <brontoeee> alex_, there is no url
[21:06] <alex_> tell spring mvc where my database is.
[21:06] <gsp2009> since removing compiz, images "ghost" through my browser and desktop wallpaper. Anyone know anything about this? I have been trying to fix it for days.
[21:06] <alex_> like jdbc://somepath:prot
[21:06] <alex_> or soemthing like that.
[21:06] <alex_> port*
[21:06] <Sid> let me take a look at that
[21:06] <pragmaticenigma> JoshDreamland: Doubtful... this is the unfortunate effect of cheep hardware... a lot of hardware manufactures rely on their software to enable features, and it's really hard to reverse engine software drivers
[21:07] <Darael> alex_: Well, then, somepath sholud be localhost and port can probably be omitted due to it being the default.
[21:07] <pragmaticenigma> Or in other words... The chip that controls the trackpad appears to everything as a standard mouse... it requires the special software driver from the manufacture to enable any additional features (like scrolling zones, etc)
[21:08] <pragmaticenigma> JoshDreamland: It is possible that the particular trackpad on that laptop is too new and no one has developed a linux driver for it yet
[21:10] <oneliner> hello there, i have an issue with a zip file that contains files with accents, and i cant seem to extract them, any advice?
[21:10] <Darael> I'm having some problems with Flash in 64-bit Ubuntu.  Have tested both repository-32-bit and native-64-bit flash player.  In any case, pressing the shift key is registered, but releasing it doesn't seem to be, unless there's a text-entry area in the Flash.  Example of places it can happen: http://ur1.ca/3cg3b
[21:10] <alex_> darael, when i want my mysql server to be accesible from the outside world?
[21:10] <FUMOS> hello everyone! after tinkering a bit with ubuntu on my laptop in safe mode I finally managed to make the gui work again but I can't manage to make it display on my secondary screen (my laptopscreen is broken) anyone?
[21:10] <skor> Sorry.. where is the documentation that explains where I can type "BOOT_THIS_VERSION" in /etc/default/grub ?  I did 'strings /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig | grep -A30 "export GRUB" but ...
[21:11] <Cataclysm> hey guys! :) is there a counterpart to VB.net in Ubuntu? I have a few apps created in VB.net for my business and I made the switch to Ubuntu (love it! won't go back) and really need a quick, dirty, painless way of creating apps
[21:11] <javahorn> Starminn: Thanks a lot. Now concern is for anti virus, suggest some good one, easy to install and have some good potency!!
[21:11] <JoshDreamland> Can someone show me their Synaptics touchpad options? Someone with tap disabled and horizontal scroll enabled? Or can someone just give me those option names?
[21:11] <Darael> alex_: Use the IP address or DNS address of the server instead of localhost... but I advise against opening a db server unless you've locked it down carefully.
[21:11] <Darael> Cataclysm: Better yet, we have an implementation.  Take a look at Mono.
[21:11] <Starminn> javahorn: You don't need Anti-Virus in Linnux unless you're moving files between Windows systems.
[21:11] <Cataclysm> thanks Darael googling it
[21:12] <Starminn> Linux*
[21:12] <javahorn> Starminn: :) :)  but just bitten by virus , so bit worried!!
[21:12] <Darael> !av | javahorn
[21:12] <alex_> locking down involves iptables i assume?
[21:12] <[segfault]> javahorn: if you do want one though, clamav is one of several popular ones
[21:12] <FUMOS> @
[21:13] <Starminn> javahorn: Well ClamAV and Avast are the popular ones
[21:13] <JoshDreamland> actually, it's okay
[21:13] <JoshDreamland> I'll run with what I have
[21:13] <javahorn> Thanks Starminn  [segfault]  Darael .
[21:13] <insanity99> hey huys, i tried egoboo but it wont run at all for me at the menu the mouse is moving very slowly and i cant quit, must open task manager and kill it
[21:13] <Darael> alex_: Partly... why not take a look at the Ubuntu Server Guide?  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[21:13] <michael__> hello, somebody with a Dell E6510 running ubuntu 10.10, new to linux and cant get the buildin smartcard reader to work.
[21:13] <tim167> hello, i get this error "Could not find QuickTime, please reinstall QuickTime 7 or later.", in processing (processing.org) how do i install that on ubuntu ?
[21:14] <Darael> insanity99: I think you may be in the wrong channel...
[21:14] <tim167> (install "quickitme 7 or later" i mean)
[21:14] <insanity99> well my machine can run it, technologically speaking
[21:14] <brontoeee> tim167, you dont
[21:14] <FUMOS> ok I think I solved the secondary screen thing
[21:14] <insanity99> so ubuntu could be the problem?
[21:15] <Darael> tim167: You don't; quicktime isn't made for Linux or for Ubuntu.
[21:15] <tim167> brontoeee: hmm, so what do i do then ?
[21:15] <brontoeee> tim167, isnt that java stuff?
[21:15] <skor> ok.. grub_default.. now how to display menu entries from CLI
[21:15] <tim167> brontoeee: well, yes, processing is based on java
[21:16] <Darael> tim167: You download the Linux package instead of the Windows one? (if you're installing, that is)
[21:16] <Sid> is fedora is different from ubuntu??
[21:16] <Sid> i never used fedora
[21:16] <Darael> Sid: Yes.  They're from very different families.
[21:16] <Sid> but both are linux
[21:16] <Sid> base
[21:16] <Sid> *based
[21:16] <tim167> Darael: the linux package of what ?
[21:17] <Darael> Sid: Correct.  However, Fedora is in the Red Hat family, whereas Ubuntu is in the Debian family.  The families have several architectural differences.
[21:17] <Darael> tim167: If you're not trying to /install/ Processing, disregard my comment.  If you /are/, check the download page again.
[21:17] <Sid> Darel: you mean inter face differnce?
[21:18] <Fjodor> Sid: Main difference would be package management
[21:18] <michael__> someone know how to get the buildin cardreader to work (dell e6510), running ubuntu 10.10 x64
[21:18] <Darael> Sid: There's those too, but more like, for example, the fact that the debian family uses APT repositories whereas the Red Hat family use RPM for package management.
[21:19] <Sid> ok..
[21:19] <Sid> and which one is better?
[21:19] <tim167> Darael: no, processing is installed, but it complains about not finding Quicktime
[21:19] <Darael> Sid: There is no "better".  Except that this is an Ubuntu channel so we have to say Debian is better :P
[21:19] <lahwran> nm-applet is using 40% of my ram across two processes again ..
[21:19] <Sid> ohhh
[21:19] <Fjodor> Sid: That's a matter of personal preference and the situation at hand, but most in here would probably have a preference for the debian family ;-)
[21:19] <Sid> i'm using windows and ubuntu side by side....can i use fedora in the same way?
[21:20] <Darael> Sid: Indeed you can.
[21:20] <Fjodor> Sid: Sure
[21:20] <Sid> that is also free ?
[21:20] <Darael> Sid: Fedora is, yes.
[21:20] <Sid> okay thanks
[21:20] <lahwran> Sid: debian is better than ubuntu for some purposes, ubuntu better then debian for others, other distros better than both for yet other things
[21:21] <magicianlord> ubuntu works out of the box. that is its strength
[21:21] <Sid> why ubuntu is considered most powerfull?
[21:21] <magicianlord> 2?
[21:21] <Starminn> Sid: http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity Have fun
[21:21] <Darael> magicianlord: On the other hand, on /some/ hardware Fedora works out of the box and Ubuntu doesn't.  At least, I remember reports of this.
[21:21] <michael__> magicianlord, exept my cardreader :)
[21:21] <lahwran> ubuntu is considered the most powerful?
[21:21] <Darael> Sid: IIRC it isn't.
[21:21] <geoffmcc> Sid: i dont have a ton of linux experience but i have tried many of them and i keep comming back to ubuntu. try for yourself and see but im just sayin'
[21:22] <Starminn> Sid: I've never heard of Ubuntu being the most powerful. But it is the most Linux-beginner-friendly to most people.
[21:22] <skullboy> where is the shell startup scrips in ubuntu
[21:22] <mr_shed> ubuntu is definitely one of the prettiest Linux distro's I've ever used.
[21:22] <Sid> okay....i dont have much knowledge
[21:22] <Darael> skullboy: What do you mean?  Could you give a little more detail?
[21:23] <matt_> how do i get my raid to auto mount on startup  it just unmounts if i reboot
[21:23] <mr_shed> but Debian works very nicely too.
[21:23]  * Starminn Agrees with mr_shed
[21:23] <Darael> !fstab | matt_
[21:23] <Sid> thanks for the distrowatch
[21:23] <monica> hola
[21:23] <skullboy> Darael: where is the script that starts gnome-session and x on ttl7
[21:23] <itaylor57> skullboy: in your .profile or .bashrc
[21:24] <Starminn> SidL No, it's fine. That's what you're here for -- to learn. I have tried a few and prefer Ubuntu, myself. And you're welcome. All 324 distros (and I'm sure there are a few not on there either). YOu've also got various Ubuntu derivatives like an Ubuntu for nearly every religion on the planet, Ubuntu "Ultimate Edition" (not from Canonical), and so forth.
[21:24] <iw5bau> list
[21:24] <skullboy> itaylor57: .bashrc
[21:25] <oneliner> hello there, i have an issue with a zip file that contains files with accents, and i cant seem to extract them, any advice?
[21:25]  * Starminn wasn't counting the *actual* derivatives like Linux Mint, etc.)
[21:25] <Fjodor> itaylor57, skullboy: I think you spoke past each other...
[21:25] <nicofs> For some reason, no matter what video editing software i use, the rendered video has issues with the audio track (none at all, 3x the speed, looped). While in the editor, sound is played back. This happens with kino, openshot, avidemux and cinelerra. Any ideas?
[21:25] <Darael> skullboy: It's an Upstart job these days in Ubuntu, rather than an init-script - look up Upstart and look at the files in /etc/init (/not/ /etc/init.d/)
[21:25] <michael__> whos running ubuntu on  a dell e6510?
[21:25] <geoffmcc> oneliner: do something like unzip partialfilename*
[21:25] <Sid> i want to give a brief presentation at college......on the topic OSS (open source softwares).
[21:25] <Starminn> Sid: I typo'd your name so look for "SidL" a little before this message
[21:25] <Sid> what major topics should i include?
[21:25] <iw5bau> list
[21:26] <geoffmcc> oneliner: or rename mv partialfilename* newfilename
[21:26] <Starminn> Sid: Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic as this channel is for support only.
[21:26] <Darael> Sid: What and why, primarily.  And Starminn is right, take it to -offtopic.
[21:26] <skullboy> Fjodor: according to my logs we have
[21:26] <Starminn> !anyone | michael__
[21:26] <Sid> ok.
[21:26] <oneliner> geoffmcc: thanks i ll try that
[21:27] <oneliner> but how do i rename files / folders whithin the zip?
[21:27] <Sid> the main problem with my ubuntu is it give very slow internet speed compare to win7.. why so?
[21:28] <matt_> why do i need to edit a config file to get my harddrive to be accessible this is bullshi
[21:28] <michael__> ubottu, sorry, its all new new for me
[21:28] <Starminn> michael__: Just ask what your question is and we'll see if we can help.
[21:28] <michael__> ubottu, normally i google alot before asking help
[21:28] <Darael> Sid: Is it slow or unresponsive?  The two are very different.  If it's slow to respond, you might want to look at disabling IPv6 - hang on, I'll dig out a link.
[21:28] <shcherbak> Sid: speedtest.net
[21:28] <itaylor57> skullboy: I guess I misunderstood your original question
[21:28] <EvilPhoenix> michael__:  dont talk to ubottu directly,  its just a bot
[21:28] <Starminn> michael__: Ubottu is not a person. :)
[21:28] <Darael> !ohmy | matt_
[21:28] <michael__> Starminn, oeps
[21:29] <Sid> its slow....speed around 30kbps
[21:29] <Sid> while on win7 i get 150kbps
[21:29] <Darael> Sid: Right.  Are you using a wired or a wireless connection?
[21:29] <EvilPhoenix> michael__:  you have a model only slightly higher in number than my system (Dell Latitude E6500).  I havent figured out how to get the built in smart card reader working either.
[21:29] <shcherbak> Sid: is it 3G?
[21:29] <night_owl> what image viewer is everyone useing?
[21:29] <Sid> nope
[21:30] <michael__> EvilPhoenix, thanx mate!
[21:30] <Starminn> night_owl: Eye of GNOME (the default)
[21:30] <[deXter]> night_owl: whatever was shipped by default..
[21:30] <Sid> its 2G...but it catches 3G network
[21:30] <m4rtin> hmmm, anybody know why mkinitramfs isn't creating a modules.dep file?
[21:30] <skullboy> itaylor57: know how gnome-session starts with the system and then x starts on tty7 where is the script that starts that
[21:30] <Darael> Sid: But it's a mobile internet connection?
[21:30] <shcherbak> Sid: did you try to make test on speedtest.net ?
[21:31] <Sid> darael- yes...i'm using netconnect modem
[21:31] <Sid> shcherbak- yes
[21:31] <Darael> I'm having some problems with Flash in 64-bit Ubuntu.  Have tested both repository-32-bit and native-64-bit flash player.  In any case, pressing the shift key is registered, but releasing it doesn't seem to be, unless there's a text-entry area in the Flash.  Example of places it can happen: http://ur1.ca/3cg3b
[21:31] <matt_> http://i.imgur.com/9VZXu.png what do i add to fstab to get  md0 working on boot
[21:32] <skullboy> itaylor57: know how gnome-session starts with the system and then x starts on tty7 where is the script that starts that
[21:32] <itaylor57> skullboy: ubunut uses upstart now http://upstart.ubuntu.com/faq.html
[21:33] <Darael> skullboy: gnome-session /doesn't/ start with the system - GDM does, and if you set up autologin it then calls gnome-session.  See the upstart docs.
[21:33] <Sid> i asked for solution about speed...plz help me guyz
[21:34] <[thor]> Sid: it's all in your head. my OS choice has never affected my speeds.
[21:34] <ubox> I am trying to install a wireless adapter and for some reason I am not seeing the same amount of files on my media that I see in windows7
[21:34] <Darael> matt_: Open a terminal and run "mount" with no options and pastebin the result (http://paste.ubuntu.com), please.
[21:34] <ubox> any ideas?
[21:34] <Sid> maybe..
[21:34] <[thor]> Sid: in fact, i have a higher than average speedtest.net score for my ISP
[21:34] <faryshta> Hello. Wine throws this error XF86VidModeExtensionDisabled.
[21:35] <Sid> well i guess i should switch to brodband
[21:35] <Darael> ubox: If it's fewer, check in Win7 if any of them start with a ".".  If it's more in Ubuntu, that's because it's showing hidden files.
[21:35] <faryshta> Someone here knows about wine drivers?
[21:35] <shcherbak> Sid: if thisis usb modem, it may be not that well supported, solution test different driver or modem.
[21:35] <Sid> does vlc player work on ubuntu?
[21:35] <erUSUL> Sid: yes
[21:35] <Darael> Sid: Yes, it does.  sudo apt-get install vlc
[21:35] <Sid> wats this?
[21:36] <erUSUL> Sid: install it from software center
[21:36] <ubox> Darael, its less in ubuntu
[21:36] <matt_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/573215/
[21:36] <Darael> Sid: The bit after the . was the command to use in a terminal to install it.  Alternatively, use the Software Centre.
[21:36] <Darael> ubox: Then I am not sure, but if any start with a . or end with a ~ they'll be hidden by Nautilus, maybe that's it?
[21:36] <Darael> matt_: Cheers.  One moment.
[21:36] <ThinkT510> ubox: are you trying to install the wireless adapter in ubuntu virtualbox guest?
[21:36] <Laibsch> http://paste.debian.net/109058/ How can that be?  It seems to me the math does not add up, there should be at least another 7G free for that partition.  Where is it?
[21:36] <ubox> Darael,  its not even the same names
[21:37] <[thor]> Sid: breaking the command down --> sudo ( SuperUserDo ) apt-get install ( poll the software repository for a package and install it ) vlc ( specifying vlc as the package to install )
[21:37] <Sid> just use that command in terminal and it wil start working?
[21:37] <intok> Old Dells worry me, anyone got Ubuntu on an Optiplex GX240? 1.4Ghz P4, 1Gb SD133, ATI Rage 128
[21:37] <ubox> ThinkT510,  I am trying to install the drivers in ubuntu that is hosted in virtualbox
[21:37] <Darael> ubox: Not sure then, sorry...
[21:37] <skullboy> ok so how do i make all the virtual terminals start up as bash shells
[21:37] <tdiso> is there any defined way of moving the notification pop up?
[21:37] <ubox> when I do ls it gives me: vistax64  vistax86  win98  winme  winx64  winxp2k
[21:37] <Darael> Laibsch: Without looking, if it's quite a large partition it will be that a percantage of the space is reserved for the use of root.
[21:38] <[thor]> Sid: that command will install VLC, and then you will be able to access it via the terminal ( vlc at the command line ) or via the menu system ( Applications > Sound & Video > VLC )
[21:38] <itaylor57> skullboy: bash is the default in ubuntu
[21:38] <ThinkT510> ubox: if ubuntu is a virtualbox guest and you're using win7 as a host you don't need to install wireless drivers
[21:38] <erUSUL> Laibsch: 141 * 0.05 = 7 GiB
[21:38] <Laibsch> Darael: ah, right, that's likely, forgot about that.  I should probably reduce that.
[21:38] <faryshta> Hello. Wine throws this error XF86VidModeExtensionDisabled.
[21:38] <Laibsch> erUSUL: yep, thanks
[21:38] <Sid> thor- got it..
[21:38] <erUSUL> Laibsch: 5% of ext* partitions is reserved for root
[21:38] <Sid> thnx
[21:38] <ubox> and when I do dir in windows I get different files
[21:38] <Darael> skullboy: For one user, use chsh and for system-wide look at update-alternatives.
[21:39] <Sid> well i hav my college 3 hrs later...so i have to sleep atleast 2hrs. thanks to all of you.
[21:39] <Sid> i wil come back tomorrow.
[21:39] <ubox> ThinkT510,  its a usb wireless adapter
[21:39] <[thor]> Sid: you can also use " apt-cache search <<packagename>> " to look for applications
[21:39] <erUSUL> skullboy: all terminals use bash by default
[21:39] <skullboy> itaylor57: i want it just to load the bash shell not
[21:40] <faryshta> Is there any irc for wine related issues?
[21:40] <ThinkT510> ubox: so you are running ubuntu in virtualbox and trying to install a usb wireless driver?
[21:40] <[thor]> faryshta: #winehq
[21:40] <Migi32> wtf I'm being port-scanned! Any services I could shut down, just to be safe?
[21:40] <erUSUL> faryshta: #winehq
[21:40] <ubox> ThinkT510, yes
[21:40] <guntbert> !language | Migi32
[21:40] <ThinkT510> ubox: you don't need to
[21:40] <erUSUL> Migi32: do you have any runnig? by default in a vanilla ubuntu box there is not any
[21:40] <Darael> matt_: You could /try/ "/dev/md0        /media/db       ext4    rw,nosuid,nodev 0       0"
[21:40] <faryshta> [thor], erUSUL thanks.
[21:40] <ubox> ThinkT510,  should I just enable usb device through vbox
[21:41] <ThinkT510> ubox: no
[21:41] <ubox> lol
[21:41] <mark7845> Does anyone know how to view PDFs in chromium, I just kept being told "missing plugin"
[21:41] <Migi32> erUSUL, I don't remember installing ssh but I see a "ssh-agent" process in the list of processes
[21:41] <Migi32> erUSUL, any idea how to shut it down?
[21:41] <erUSUL> Migi32: that's for managing keys in the client
[21:41] <BiPolah> Where are the configuration files for Mumble in 10.10? I've set a certificate and now can't join a server and apt-get purge hasn't reset this
[21:41] <jonta> hmm
[21:41] <ThinkT510> ubox: try using the internet in ubuntu, it will automatically use the windows network
[21:41] <jonta> /etc/mumble or /etc/murmur
[21:41] <Migi32> erUSUL, ah ok. Then I'm probably fairly safe, my system is up to date
[21:41] <erUSUL> !firewall | Migi32
[21:42] <jonta> BiPolah: /etc/mumur or /etc/mumble  - better highlight you
[21:42] <Migi32> erUSUL, the port scan is coming from multiple IP addresses, no idea how to write firewall rules against that
[21:42] <skullboy> how do i make it so i have to exec the bash shell when i startup
[21:42] <ubox> wireless adapter came with a tool to see which networks are close to me... if I dont install this in ubuntu how do I get a tool that does the same then
[21:43] <Darael> skullboy: What exactly are you trying to achieve?  Boot to a shell?
[21:43] <psusi> skullboy, what?
[21:43] <Migi32> I don't like that my box is sending back TCP RST messages, making the scan for them way easier...
[21:43] <erUSUL> Migi32: most firewalls just drop everything by default
[21:43] <Darael> Migi32: You need to "sudo ufw enable"!
[21:43] <psusi> Migi32, it really doesn't matter one bit
[21:44] <erUSUL> skullboy: what are you trying to do ?
[21:44] <ThinkT510> ubox: try running the ubuntu vm and open a browser in it, it will work because virtualbox forwards windows network connection
[21:44] <Darael> ubox: Just click the network-manager applet?
[21:44] <BiPolah> Jonta: There's no Mumble folder in /etc/ but I got my user reset so it's okay now
[21:44] <psusi> Migi32, if someone is going to port scan you, they will be using a tool that deals with that
[21:44] <skullboy> darael: i want it to just drop the shell so i have to exec the bash shell
[21:44] <Migi32> psusi, hmm yeah, good point
[21:44] <jonta> BiPolah: ok good =)
[21:44] <psusi> Migi32, so really all disabling it does is mess up legit traffic
[21:45] <jonta> BiPolah: sometimes people install mumble-server but do not know that it is called murmur
[21:45] <ubox> ThinkT510,  I dont want to surf the web with wireless router lol
[21:45] <ubox> Darael, where is that app
[21:45] <ubox> Places -Network?
[21:45] <Darael> ubox: In Ubuntu, it's installed by default and should be in your tray.  It's the same tool you use to connect to wifi.
[21:46] <Darael> ubox: Top right.
[21:46] <BiPolah> Jonta: No, I'm using Mumble client, not the server. It's just that I made myself a certificate and it wouldn't let me connect to a server hosted elsewhere
[21:46] <matt_> Darael: The disk drive for /media/db is not ready yet or not present
[21:46] <ubox> oh I see
[21:46] <skullboy> how do i drop the root shell
[21:46] <ubox> Darael,  is there another place that lists all the networks besides top right
[21:47] <[thor]> skullboy: you want to boot to bash, so you can execute bash?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> skullboy: run: exit
[21:47] <matt_> Darael: Continue to wait; or press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery
[21:47] <Darael> skullboy: run exit, or run logout, or press ctl+d
[21:47] <Darael> matt_: press S for now.
[21:47] <erUSUL> skullboy: drop? explain in english what you want to do....
[21:47] <versago> \leave
[21:47] <[thor]> matt_: did you format the RAID?
[21:48] <matt_> [thor]: the raid was already formatted and being used
[21:48] <ubox> Darael,  my wireless adapter light keeps flickering like it is busy.  Is Ubuntu querying the device constantly or something
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> erUSUL: apparently not :)
[21:49] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: ;P
[21:49] <Darael> ubox: Could be, but if it's a built-in wireless device there have been known issues with the LED not being driven properly, so that it's essentially lying to you.
[21:49] <matt_> now the raid array is not running in disc utility
[21:49] <era878> Why is it that when i have a certain hard drive plugged in ubuntu takes 10 more minutes to boot?
[21:49] <Darael> matt_: Try looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid - I'm not sure what to do at this point.
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> era878: is it healthy?
[21:49] <ubox> Darael,  its external usb device
[21:49] <era878> its really old but it still works
[21:50] <night_owl> whats the name of the defult disk usage display?
[21:50] <faryshta> Hello. Wine throws this error XF86VidModeExtensionDisabled.
[21:50] <skullboy> i want to drop the root shell not the bash shell
[21:50] <pw-toxic_> sacarlson, hi, my raid5 is running again!
[21:50] <night_owl> faryshta: /join #wine-hq
[21:50] <Logan_WP> !wine | faryshta
[21:50] <pw-toxic_> sacarlson, my brother got a fsck to run trhough - MANY errors were solved, and i could finally mount it
[21:51] <Darael> skullboy: exit it, and (assuming you got there by sudo or su) you'll be returned to your own shell.
[21:51] <[thor]> skullboy: CTRL-ALT-F1 to switch to another TTY, and CTRL-ALT-F7 to get back to the gui?
[21:51] <Darael> matt_: Don't follow the instructions on that page exactly, of course, but use it to get an idea of what to do.
[21:51] <era878> ActionParsnip: 124 bad sectors and 3725 power cycles
[21:51] <fanthomas> I'm trying to put startxfce4 into /etc/rc.local but on boot it says "X: user not authorizet to run X server, aborting" ... but when I run /etc/rc.local from command line it works. Running out of ideas :-(
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> era878: that why then, its dying
[21:52] <skullboy> darael: but i dont want it to go back to bash
[21:52] <matt_> darael: .
[21:52] <Darael> skullboy: Then what do you want?!
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> fanthomas: did you install Xubuntu?
[21:52] <Darael> matt_: ?
[21:52] <era878> ActionParsnip: but even then why would it add 10 minutes to the boot time?
[21:52] <ugarit> I booted using 10.10 and selected install and I get this error after Allocate drive space=>Install Now: No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitition menu.
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> era878: because the drive is struggling to work as it is failing
[21:52] <fanthomas> ActionParsnip: no.. it's wubi but I'm trying to start xfce directly bypassing gdm
[21:52] <erUSUL> skullboy: you are making little to no sense. please take a step back and eplain what are you trying to do and why
[21:52] <matt_> darael: so im supposed to just follow a guide with no idea of the implications as to what it will do to the raid that i already have running?
[21:53] <fanthomas> ActionParsnip: it's single user machine
[21:53] <[thor]> skullboy: there is no shell environment called "root shell"
[21:53] <ThinkT510> ugarit: you need to select a root partition to install ubuntu onto
[21:53] <[thor]> skullboy: it is a designation for a shell environment that has root access.. be it bash, zsh, csh, or others
[21:53] <Darael> matt_: Nope, don't follow the guide - see if you can work out what's going on in it!  I'm running out of ideas, you see - I'm no RAID expert.  Perhaps it would be best to ask someone else... [thor] seems to know what he's on about.
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> fanthomas: may help: http://www.shallowsky.com/blog/linux/autologin.html
[21:54] <ugarit> ThinkT510 and how do i do that?
[21:54] <[thor]> i am not experienced with RAID
[21:54] <ThinkT510> !partition | ugarit
[21:54] <[thor]> i only asked because the screengrab showed "Format this RAID"
[21:54] <skullboy> i want to get to sh
[21:54] <matt_> darael: i think the only problem is the raid shuts itself off and its trying to mount a raid that is offline when it reboots.
[21:54] <Darael> [thor]: Then I apologise for poking someone at you.
[21:54] <Darael> matt_: Indeed.  However, I'm not sure how to deal with that.
[21:54] <Starminn> !details | skullboy
[21:54] <erUSUL> skullboy: just open a terminal emulator? if you can not. explain why.-
[21:55] <ugarit> gparted shows 279GB of unallocated space so i formatted as ext4 and as / but it doesn't show up in the Install window!!!!
[21:55] <aaearon> hey i cant figure out how to run a command when the system boots. i want to run 'sudo xboxdrv -wid 0' at boot
[21:55] <Darael> matt_: I'm afraid you'll have to go back to generic-channel-questioning; I don't think I can help you any further.  I'm sorry.
[21:55] <itaylor57> skullboy: sh is not the bourne shell on ubuntu
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> ugarit: try upgrading gparted in the liveCD, may help
[21:55] <[thor]> skullboy: http://linuxwave.blogspot.com/2009/03/changing-default-shell-in-ubuntu.html
[21:55] <ubox> is there a nice plugin that shows all the wireless networks around me with their encryption?
[21:56] <itaylor57> skullboy: sh on ubuntu is dash
[21:56] <Darael> aaearon: crontab, or create an init-script.  Or better yet, tell the channel what the actual thing you want to achieve is - there may turn out to be a better way.
[21:56] <erUSUL> aaearon: easiest way is putting the command in /etc/rc.local ( without the sudo )
[21:56] <skullboy> itaylor: so how do i get to dash
[21:56] <itaylor57> skullboy: sh in terminal
[21:56] <erUSUL> skullboy: from where?
[21:57] <Starminn> ubox: System->Preferences->Startup Applications
[21:57] <Kaeles> After upgrading my ubuntu 10.10 kernel to 2.6.35-25, my broadcom wireless card stopped showing up (it's not showing in lspci), before, it had installed the drivers through the restricted drivers dialog, and everything was working fine, any ideas on what could be causing this?
[21:57] <Darael> skullboy: Please, just tell us what the thing you're trying to do is.  Not the intermediate steps (get to dash/close a root shell/etc) but the final aim.  It'll make it a /lot/ easier to help.
[21:57] <luis_> hello
[21:58] <jpmonette> is that normal that when I go in "/proc/acpi/fan/", theres no fan?
[21:58] <jpmonette> i think my fan isnt working / supported
[21:58] <[thor]> ubox: sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[21:58] <Darael> jpmonette: My fan seems to be working fine, and that folder is empty on my system too.
[21:58] <[thor]> ubox: then --> gksudo wifi-radar
[21:58] <Darael> jpmonette: Therefore, don't worry about it.
[21:58] <Diverdude> how do i add a directory to $PATH? i tried, but when i closed the terminal and started it again it was gone
[21:58] <jpmonette> yes, but my sensors tell me that my PC is at 50C
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> Kaeles: if you ru:  dmesg | less   and read, is the device detected?
[21:58] <skullboy> im trying to run wmaker and gnome in to different tty's
[21:59] <ubox> I have wifi radar installed but it doesnt show what type of encryption
[21:59] <erUSUL> Kaeles: restricted drivers dialog is not affering the driver anymore?
[21:59] <jpmonette> and I never hear my fan working when im on ubuntu
[21:59] <Kaeles> erUSUL: No.
[21:59] <jpmonette> but when i go abck on Windows, i can hear it
[21:59] <Kaeles> ActionParsnip: I'll look real quick
[21:59] <erUSUL> Kaeles: try « sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-$(lsb_release -cs)-generic » to get newer drivers
[21:59] <fanthomas> ActionParsnip: thanx, but I'm do not have /etc/inittab (using 9.10 karmic) should I create it?
[21:59] <troyounces> i just installed ubuntu a couple of days ago and am having a hard time connecting to my office vpn
[21:59] <matt_> well does anyone know why my raid turns itself off on reboot? i created it with disk utility....
[22:00] <Diverdude> ??
[22:00] <troyounces> i get the error message (net/tun0): could not get port's parent device
[22:00] <erUSUL> skullboy: so you want to run two xservers with two sessions simultaneously... at least we know what are you up to...
[22:00] <Kaeles> ActionParsnip: no, its not listed in there at al
[22:00] <skullboy> erusul: yea
[22:01] <Logan_WP> !vpn | troyounces
[22:01] <Sky[x]> i have a problems with wireless on HP 4719s, any idea what to do ? :)
[22:01] <mr_shed> how do you change the panels of Ubuntu to look like the icon-tray of OSX?
[22:02] <Logan_WP> !wireless | Sky[x]
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> fanthomas: hmm, ubuntu doesn't use init now :(
[22:02] <Darael> fanthomas: It's been migrated to Upstart.  Unfortunately, I'm not sure how you do the Upstart equivalents.
[22:02] <mr_shed> do I need to install something for that effect?
[22:02] <Kaeles> erUSUL: ok, I'm trying that now,
[22:02] <Sky[x]> atheros chipset :)
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> Kaeles: sounds like a regression bug then
[22:02] <brontoeee> mr_shed, docky
[22:02] <skullboy> erusul: so how do i run to x servers when i switch back to the other it is not funcioning
[22:02] <Logan_WP> !awn | mr_shed
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> Sky[x]: what chip does: sudo lshw -C network     say it is?
[22:03] <Darael> mr_shed: You can't.  You can, however, replace the lower panel with one of several docks.  I recommend docky, which is in the repositories, or AWN, which is /also/ in the repositories.
[22:03] <erUSUL> skullboy: well i have to say i have no idea... found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX
[22:03] <[thor]> ubox: if you don't mind getting dirty, you can install "WEPCrack-Ubuntu" and use the monitor tool to check encryption types
[22:03] <itaylor57> skullboy: I thing you will one virutally
[22:03] <matt_> http://i.imgur.com/ZaqzQ.png
[22:04] <Darael> [thor], ubox: Also if you don't mind getting dirty, you could install aircrack-ng and use airmon-ng and airodump-ng to get pretty much as much info as there is.
[22:04] <[thor]> :D
[22:05] <matt_> mounted it again and the share is gone too.
[22:05] <matt_> cool
[22:05] <troyounces> ubottu: it looks like the site is down but i've looked there before
[22:05] <Kaeles> erUSUL: Should that have made it show up in lspci and etc?
[22:06] <xtrac> netsplity
[22:06] <erUSUL> Kaeles: you have to reboot after installing the package
[22:06] <Kaeles> erUSUL: I did
[22:06] <erUSUL> Kaeles: no joy ?
[22:06] <Logan_WP> !forget cairo-dock
[22:06] <mickster04> troyounces: isitdownorjustme .com butt it might be the slightly wrong address, google it?
[22:07] <Kaeles> erUSUL: Its still not showing up in the lspci list there, I tried reseating it as well, just to make sure it wasn't a hardware problem, but it was working friday before I installed all the updates.
[22:07] <Logan_WP> troyounces: isup.me
[22:07] <Darael> mickster04:
[22:07] <erUSUL> Kaeles: the wifi card is not showing in lspci ?
[22:07] <Logan_WP> mickster04: isup.me (for you too ;) )
[22:07] <Kaeles> erUSUL: Correct.
[22:08] <troyounces> mickster84: there is a 500 error.  That means a server response
[22:08] <Darael> mickster04: Sorry.  You and troyounces:  http://isitdownforeveryoneorjustme.com is the one you were looking at.
[22:08] <erUSUL> Kaeles: then something else is going wrong here... maybe it is disabled in bios or something?
[22:08] <Logan_WP> mickster04: the old url was too hard to remember, so they made a short one at isup.me
[22:08] <erUSUL> Kaeles: even if there is no driver for it. it should appear in lspci
[22:08] <[thor]> mr_shed: i use cairo-dock to replace my panels.. search in the Software Center for cairo-GLX
[22:08] <Kaeles> erUSUL: It can't be disabled in bios, checked that, and reseated it.  Unless something else is messing with me.
[22:08] <erUSUL> Kaeles: with the old kernel it appears in lspci ?
[22:09] <Kaeles> erUSUL: Is there a way I can boot with the old kernel?
[22:09] <Paddy_NI> [thor]: the daily-ppa is really stable and is well worth installing over the one from the default repos
[22:09] <Darael> Kaeles: Hold shift at boot time and you'll get a GRUB menu.  Use that to boot the old kernel.
[22:09] <Paddy_NI> [thor]: weekly rather
[22:09] <erUSUL> Kaeles: if you did not removed it it should be in the grub menu. if the menu does not appear when you boot press shift during start up to force it to appear
[22:09] <Kaeles> Darael: ok
[22:09] <[thor]> mr_shed: http://uppix.net/6/7/d/d6e0b2f03881c6ece29aa9b81e987.png  <-- screenshot of my cairo
[22:09] <dustin> Hi
[22:10] <dustin> How do i create a new user?
[22:10] <dustin> My home folder will not open
[22:10] <popey> dustin: sudo adduser
[22:10] <erUSUL> dustin: ÇSystem>Admin..>users and groups
[22:10] <Kaeles> erUSUL: Ok trying that now, and I will see if that fixes the issue...
[22:10] <Paddy_NI> [thor]: runs like a dream on my modest netbook
[22:10] <coz_> mmm does it matter left or right shift for grub menu...never tried right shift
[22:10] <Logan_WP> !adduser | dustin
[22:11] <[thor]> Paddy_NI: i used UbuntuTweak to add the repo :D
[22:11] <Darael> coz_: I don't believe it does, but I've never tried.  Fancy testing it for us?
[22:11] <Paddy_NI> [thor]: I dont use ubuntu tweak or anything like that
[22:11] <Kaeles> erUSUL: Now its just mocking me.  Its not showing up in the old one either, I'll look into some more hardware issues.  Thanks alot.
[22:11] <coz_> Darael,  wouldnt work here I dual boot :)
[22:11] <erUSUL> Kaeles: i would recheck bios.
[22:12] <[thor]> Paddy_NI: it's just a gui for a bunch of other commands.. with lists of a lot of popular 3rd party repos
[22:12] <Paddy_NI> [thor]: I know what it is.. I prefer to do it myself
[22:12] <Paddy_NI> :)
[22:12] <Axident> how di I make a remote connection from HTC Desire to ubuntu to listen to my music?
[22:12] <Kaeles> erUSUL: I wish it was that, but you are unable to disable it through the bios.
[22:12] <erUSUL> Kaeles: then i dunno. do you dualboot? check if windows detects it
[22:12] <plmkoi> I don't know what distro for server should I choose. Ubuntu server, debian or fedora?
[22:13] <xtrac> I use ubuntu tweak
[22:13] <Kaeles> erUSUL: nope just ubuntu, I'll look into it a bit more.  thanks
[22:13] <xtrac> and I use compiz
[22:13] <erUSUL> plmkoi: what do you spect the answer to be in the ubuntu channel ?
[22:13] <xtrac> looks awesome
[22:13] <fanthomas> ActionParsnip: found the solution for the X server... in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config should be allowed_users=anybody, then startxfce4 works from rc.local .... uff
[22:13] <Darael> plmkoi: Go with what you know best.
[22:14] <Darael> plmkoi: In terms of suitability, there's little to choose (though I advise using Lucid rather than Maverick if you go for Ubuntu, since it's LTS) so what you know is best.
[22:15] <Darael> I'm having some problems with Flash in 64-bit Ubuntu.  Have tested both repository-32-bit and native-64-bit flash player.  In any case, pressing the shift key is registered, but releasing it doesn't seem to be, unless there's a text-entry area in the Flash.  Example of places it can happen: http://ur1.ca/3cg3b
[22:15] <plmkoi> Darael: I know best ubuntu, but is it stable for server?
[22:15] <Darael> plmkoi: I run my sever on Ubuntu - I suggest sticking to LTS releases, but it's stable, yes.
[22:16] <Dustin> I am new to linux, i use windows
[22:16] <Darael> plmkoi: Current uptime is only a couple of days, but that's only because I rebooted it after I finally got around to upgrading it to lucid.
[22:16] <Dustin> And i am very confused
[22:17] <Darael> Dustin: Please ask a question, if you have one.  After all, nobody can help if they don't understand the problem!  Don't worry, we don't bite.  Well, most of us don't.
[22:17]  * drc growls
[22:17] <Dustin> I do not understand a lot of this, For instance
[22:18] <Darael> drc: Down boy!
[22:18] <Dustin> When i download things, they just open as text documents and code
[22:18] <Dustin> Very different to what i am used to, is all
[22:18] <Darael> Dustin: Can you give an example of something you're trying to download?
[22:18] <Dustin> No, i have no individual examples
[22:19] <Dustin> I just need help "Settling in" So to speak
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> fanthomas: seems like a faff, could have just used autologin in gdm etc...
[22:19] <Darael> Dustin: Ah.  Just wondered if there was a simple explanation.
[22:19] <erUSUL> !manual | Dustin
[22:20] <erUSUL> Dustin: ubuntu pocket guide is also a good book for novice users
[22:20] <Darael> erUSUL: Ooh, a factoid I didn't know about!  I'll remember that one...
[22:20] <fanthomas> ActionParsnip: using it on old computer (256mb ram), I wanted to save memory
[22:21] <ubox> anyone here use konversattion client
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> fanthomas: i guess, makes sense, xubuntu is not as liht as it makes out
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> fanthomas: however using minimal then installing xfce4 can yield a fast OS :)
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | ubox
[22:22] <geoffmcc> Dustin: to me sounds like you are downloading something that needs compiled.
[22:22] <fanthomas> ActionParsnip: xfce4 + midori
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> fanthomas: nice, if light is your bag then join the lubuntu mailing list ;)
[22:23] <poordna> so i'm trying to reflash a wyse box, i'm running the script on this page: http://web.archive.org/web/20080420192133/www.mowson.org/karl/articles/linux-netxfer/ and I'm getting a tftpd error Feb 27 13:49:12 htpc tftpd[578]: unknown option -?
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> fanthomas: deadbeef is a really light media player with a lot of features
[22:24] <alex_> ubuntu is not for desktop :(
[22:24] <alex_> desktop is for games.
[22:24] <[thor]> lxde + midori ?
[22:24] <lolzer> ??
[22:24] <Kaeles> alex_: I use ubuntu on my desktop, but mostly for coding.
[22:24] <lolzer> try WINE
[22:25] <alex_> eh it'll never work. video cards + ubuntu don't mix
[22:25] <[thor]> alex_: untrue
[22:25] <alex_> you can blame nvidia closed source or other things like this if you'd like. but the fact remains
[22:25] <mongy> mixes well with my i7 and ati
[22:25] <Ampelbein> alex_: actually, many games run very good with wine
[22:25] <alex_> "very good" as in crashing all day?
[22:26] <mongy> I dont game, just desktop, lots of, with compiz gestures
[22:26] <[thor]> alex_: run "M.A.R.S." on windows
[22:26] <[thor]> i dare you
[22:26] <Ampelbein> alex_: "very good" as in, same as in windows.
[22:26] <alex_> run crysis on linux..
[22:26] <LjL> !offtopic
[22:26] <alex_> i'm resigned to the fact taht ubuntu or any distro of linux isn't for gaming.
[22:27] <alex_> dual boot
[22:27] <drexl> I recently switched my hard drives around because my 180 gig will only detect as a master, I ran update-grub on both os's now I've lost automatic usb detection, I know my cables are ok because I have windows and it works, and also if I start the system with the usb plugged in it will detect it.
[22:27] <mongy> alex_, instead if whining about linux and games, petition the game makers
[22:27] <eoss> hello i sent mail using linux mail command, i want to delete it before the person reads it
[22:27] <alex_> no. that's not my job. linux promoters
[22:27] <eoss> possible?
[22:28] <[thor]> eoss: if it has left the mailer daemon, you are out of luck.
[22:28] <eoss> thanks [thor]
[22:29] <Axident> ubox: I use Konversation
[22:29] <geoffmcc> eoss: me think u had aol at one time, lol
[22:29] <alex_> i do you use ubuntu for code.. apparently some open source stuff is never supported in windows.. even though it's not hard to program a version for windows. so there is a double standard
[22:29] <eoss> geoffmcc, haha, you are absolutely correct
[22:30] <eoss> i came a long way...
[22:30] <folklore> alex they tend to do that on purpose in some cases
[22:30] <ManuXN> alguien de latino america
[22:30] <folklore> unfortunately
[22:30] <Logan_WP> ubox: Konversation support in #konversation
[22:30] <LjL> !es | ManuXN
[22:30] <Logan_WP> !es | manuxn
[22:30] <Logan_WP> oops
[22:30] <Logan_WP> LjL: jinx :P
[22:31] <Tech-DK> Just curious; do we expect 11.04 to have higher requirements on hardware (abandoning old machines)?
[22:31] <Logan_WP> !natty | Tech-DK
[22:32] <pessoptimistic> so how come I get this http://twitpic.com/44iamp when I attempt to install 10.10?
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Tech-DK: should be the same
[22:32] <Tech-DK> Just wandering if my Eee 900 should stay at 10.10...
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Tech-DK: if its not broke, don't fix it
[22:33] <nibbler_> pessoptimistic, because you dont have a root fs - if you do it manually, be sure to have some space with mountpoint "/" (this is the root fs)
[22:33] <alex_> shit. I need flash builder but.. it's not supported on linux anymore
[22:33] <pessoptimistic> nibbler: but look at the gparted window.  I do have a "/" fs?
[22:34] <nibbler_> pessoptimistic, thats "label" not "mountpoint"
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> alex_: what's flash builder?
[22:35] <arbitrator> Can anyone help me with mounting my home directory?
[22:35] <Axident> anyone who know how to make a remote connection from HTC Desire to listen to my music on Ubuntu?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> alex_: looks interesting
[22:35] <alex_> flash builder, previously known as Flex builder, is supposedly an open source Flash development IDE
[22:35] <alex_> but no more support on linux
[22:35] <nibbler_> Axident, on your desire install lullaby and ampache on the ubuntu.
[22:36] <alex_> any tools for doing flash development? i know all you open source fanatics Hate flash, but I need to make money..
[22:36] <Axident> nibbler_: ty will try this
[22:36]  * drc decides to stop playing games and bring up his Linux desktop to code an irc whine filter (that should reduce the volume in here by 95%)...oh, wait I don't have to do that, I just have to....
[22:37] <arbitrator> I need to access an encrypted home directory, apparently using mount ecryptfs, but I don't understand how to give it all the variables.
[22:37] <erUSUL> arbitrator: from a livecd ?
[22:37] <arbitrator> erUSUL: Yes.
[22:38] <erUSUL> arbitrator: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/
[22:38] <arbitrator> The chroot method hits a brick wall when I'm at taking superuser power, because I get pam_start error 26
[22:39] <erUSUL> arbitrator: which command exactly fails?
[22:40] <arbitrator> erUSUL: On the page you listed (which is the method I was using), it was the one immediately under heading Chroot to $D
[22:40] <erUSUL> arbitrator: this one ? --> su - username
[22:40] <arbitrator> Yes.
[22:40] <erUSUL> arbitrator: what is your username?
[22:40] <Logan_WP> alex_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_for_Linux
[22:40] <arbitrator> monarch. It could be uppercase, but I get the same error either way.
[22:41] <Logan_WP> alex_: that one is no longer under active development, but alternatives are also listed in that article
[22:41] <plmkoi> Darael, I heard that LTS packages are outdated.
[22:42] <alex_> hrm.  flash builder under wine seems like the least amount of work
[22:42] <alex_> i'll try that first
[22:42] <arbitrator> I also get the same error when I don't feed it a username.
[22:42] <erUSUL> arbitrator: the installed ubuntu the one in the harddisk. does it have various partitions for the system ?
[22:42] <arbitrator> erUSUL: I'm not sure I follow. All of Ubuntu's stuff is on one partition.
[22:43] <erUSUL> arbitrator: home too ?
[22:43] <arbitrator> Yeah. There's a device called linux swap in fdisk -l but there's no earthly way it could hold the home directory.
[22:44] <erUSUL> arbitrator: :/ only found this... http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/pam_start-failed-error-26-a-615024/ but it is of no use...
[22:45] <arbitrator> erUSUL: Yeah. As I said, pam_start error 26 is a brickwall.
[22:45] <arbitrator> So, a friend was guiding me along a path using some of the stuff to skip chroot's issues, but he dropped out before we finished.
[22:45] <skor> what sites do you use to track vulnerabilities per kernel version ?
[22:46] <skor> ie: kernel 2.6.32-xx is vulnerable to (list...)
[22:46] <rey> ciao
[22:46] <erUSUL> arbitrator: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Data%20Manually ?
[22:46] <arbitrator> The idea was to use the data in /home/.ecryptfs/ to skip having to authenticate myself within that filesystem, and just decrypt it manually with the password.
[22:46] <rey> !list
[22:47] <arbitrator> erUSUL: Looks good, but I have no idea what this mount passphrase is.
[22:47] <Guest33068> hi
[22:47] <Guest33068> ...
[22:47] <Guest33068> first time at this aplication
[22:48] <arbitrator> Hmm. I think I'm following better now.
[22:48] <Guest33068> someone?
[22:48] <erUSUL> arbitrator: :/
[22:49] <erUSUL> Guest33068: hi
[22:49] <skullboy> ok when i switch ttyx the xserv is crashed it only is stable on tty7
[22:49] <Nexus-Wind> real quick whats the syntax for root?
[22:49] <Nexus-Wind> since " ~/ " is $home....
[22:49] <Guest33068> erUSUSL hi bro
[22:49] <erUSUL> Nexus-Wind: root is /
[22:49] <Nexus-Wind> just /?
[22:49] <Nexus-Wind> any other useful syntaxes like such?
[22:50] <erUSUL> Nexus-Wind: / is a path is not a special expansion done by the shell like ~
[22:50] <mickster04> ./
[22:50] <erUSUL> Nexus-Wind: the shell does not do any other path expansion that i know of
[22:50] <Nexus-Wind> thanks
[22:51] <Nexus-Wind> my game server is down and needed the help with that :P
[22:51] <erUSUL> i do not see the connection... but whatever ;P
[22:51] <c0ldshadow> can someone link me to a wireless USB either G or N that will 100% work on Ubuntu
[22:51] <c0ldshadow> i dont want to have any problems
[22:51] <Guest33068> who from here play games?
[22:51] <erUSUL> !hcl
[22:52] <arbitrator> erUSUL: I misunderstood something, damn. I get the "you've screwed up mounting" message from the second command in the mount using sudo section.
[22:52] <Nexus-Wind> erusul, I run my server as RAMdisk and must untar a backup
[22:52] <erUSUL> arbitrator: good; now you are in the good track ;P
[22:52] <Nexus-Wind> minecraft
[22:52] <Guest33068> openarena
[22:52] <arbitrator> root@ubuntu:/mnt/chroot/home/.ecryptfs/monarch/.ecryptfs# sudo mkdir /mnt/chroot/home/Private
[22:52] <arbitrator> root@ubuntu:/mnt/chroot/home/.ecryptfs/monarch/.ecryptfs# sudo mount -t /mnt/chroot/home/.ecryptfs/monarch/.Private /mnt/chroot/home/Private
[22:52] <arbitrator> The second command fails.
[22:53] <arbitrator> What is this mount passphrase it keeps mentioning?
[22:53] <dustin> What is the link to the manual?
[22:53] <erUSUL> arbitrator: -t ecryptfs
[22:53] <erUSUL> !manual
[22:54] <c0ldshadow> why does linux have such bad wireless support compared to windows?
[22:54] <Logan_WP> !ot | c0ldshadow
[22:54] <arbitrator> What passphrase does it want, then?
[22:54] <erUSUL> arbitrator: the one you gave when you created the home dir. probably during install. i dunno if it asks for one becouse never used encripted home dir
[22:54] <arbitrator> But. . . I only ever used the one passphrase?
[22:55] <skullboy> ok when i switch ttyx the xserv is crashed it only is stable on tty7
[22:55] <arbitrator> The only password I ever gave ubuntu was the login pass.
[22:55] <erUSUL> c0ldshadow: the people that makes the hardware does drivers for windows. the drivers for linux are made by voluntiers without help most of the time
[22:55] <erUSUL> arbitrator: maybe the installer just generates a random one
[22:55] <Ampelbein> arbitrator: when you first started your system after setting up ecryptfs there was a popup window with the ecryptfs-passphrase.
[22:55] <rumpe1> arbitrator, well...usually you can generate a passphrase right after installation/setting up an encrypted home ... and you should write it down then
[22:56] <erUSUL> arbitrator: see Ampelbein  and rumpe1
[22:56] <arbitrator> Ampelbein: I. . . no. . . damn. . . no. . . nonononono
[22:56] <arbitrator> It is written down. . . in the fucking home directory. . .
[22:56] <Logan_WP> !language | arbitrator
[22:56] <rumpe1> arbitrator, lol... fail :>
[22:56] <Ampelbein> arbitrator: congrats I guess ;-)
[22:57] <arbitrator> Why does it have to have a different passcode?
[22:57] <c0ldshadow> i think it would be useful to sell wireless cards and drivers just for ubuntu, i think people would actually buy it b/c saves time and hassle of having to struggle with stuff
[22:57] <erUSUL> arbitrator: :$ your only chanve is the first method http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-mounting-your-encrypted-home-from-livecd/ then. are you using a livecd that matchs the version of ubuntu you have installed ?
[22:57] <c0ldshadow> like i would be willing to pay for it lol
[22:57] <arbitrator> erUSUL: No, it's a liveCD 10.10 to a 10.04 install.
[22:58] <erUSUL> arbitrator: i would try with a 10.04 livecd...
[22:58] <arbitrator> Does it have to be the same architecture side?
[22:58] <washuu_de> I hve a question later. irc -client-machin always opens this channel
[22:58] <washuu_de> *p
[22:58] <erUSUL> arbitrator: yep; just make it as similar as possible
[22:58] <washuu_de> #p
[22:59] <washuu_de> # part
[22:59] <washuu_de> I suck :-(
[22:59] <Logan_WP> washuu_de: it's /part
[22:59] <arbitrator> I hate my life right now. So much. It never said what that phrase was important for. . .
[22:59] <washuu_de> nyaa tnkl
[22:59] <arbitrator> erUSUL: The original install was 9.10, upgraded to 10.04 - what should I do with that?
[23:00] <erUSUL> that's why i do not use encripted home nor lvm nor any other *** that just makes data recovery more dificult that it already is ...
[23:00] <erUSUL> arbitrator: use a 10.04 livecd
[23:00] <jayd3e_> trying to install pycharm.  I installed open-jdk, and got an error message.  Now I installed sun-java6-jdk & jre and I'm getting the ame error message.  It says I need to make sure PYCHARM_JDK or HOME_JDK points to a valid java installation
[23:01] <arbitrator> Thanks. I guess.
[23:01] <erUSUL> arbitrator: good luck
[23:02] <[segfault]> arbitrator: we mourn with you :(
[23:02] <arbitrator> Can we, in future Ubuntu installs, make it clear what that passphrase is for?
[23:02] <Ampelbein> arbitrator: the popup says what the passphrase is used for
[23:03] <Ampelbein> arbitrator: and to write it down at a safe place outside of the encrypted /home
[23:03] <Starminn> Is there a particular reason why Ubuntu won't accept uppercase characters as a username?
[23:03] <arbitrator> Ampelbein: I wouldn't have been so stupid as to save it in the home directory if it had explained it was needed to recover an encrypted home.
[23:03] <intrader> Anyone, as feared, my laptop fans are starting to fail after running full speed since I installed 10.10. Is there a resolution to this bug?
[23:03] <rumpe1> arbitrator, you have to learn to read popups
[23:03] <arbitrator> I swear I did read it.
[23:04] <dustin> !manual
[23:04] <arbitrator> Anyway, know how to dismount my chroot?
[23:04] <erUSUL> arbitrator: type "exit"
[23:04] <Ampelbein> arbitrator: http://paste.ubuntu.com/573241/
[23:04] <jayd3e_> trying to install pycharm.  I installed open-jdk, and got an error message.  Now I installed sun-java6-jdk & jre and I'm getting the ame error message.  It says I need to make sure PYCHARM_JDK or HOME_JDK points to a valid java installation
[23:06] <arbitrator> Guuuhh. I may have put it somewhere, back at home 3hours of driving away, which has probably been cleaned thirty times after I'd long since forgotten the purpose of the pass.
[23:06] <arbitrator> Anyway, thanks, see you.
[23:06] <erUSUL> arbitrator: ciao
[23:07] <skullboy> how do i run two x servers on my ubuntu 10.10
[23:08] <syrinx>  skullboy, why do you wanna do that
[23:09] <skullboy> syrinx: cause i want to run kde on one and gnome on the other
[23:09] <guitar431> hello all, i am using ubuntu 10.10 maverick and after using it the power off applet right top corner fucks up after a while. This happend twice and the applet changes to a weired thing where i can access email connection and stuff like that.
[23:10] <guitar431> who can tell me how to get that applet back help would be appreciated
[23:10] <Scene> i need help
[23:10] <syrinx> me 2
[23:10] <matt_> OKAY i fixed the raid shutting iself off. now to that automount problem
[23:10] <aeon-ltd> Scene: ask away, next time don't ask to ask
[23:11] <Scene> im using my flash and i try to mount my casper-rw but it wont mount
[23:11] <Scene> has an error
[23:12] <Logan_WP> !language | guitar431
[23:12] <Scene> so any idea on what to do?
[23:13] <Logan_WP> !please | Scene
[23:13] <syrinx> Scene, what does the error say
[23:13] <skullboy> syrinx: cause i want to run kde on one and gnome on the other
[23:13] <intrader> !repeat
[23:14] <skullboy> !xorg
[23:14] <Scene> internal error: no mount object for mounted volume ... ps sorry im new to linux
[23:14] <syrinx> Scene, whats the filesystem?
[23:15] <Scene> uhm what do you mean?
[23:15] <Scene> its formatted to Fat32
[23:17] <xrdodrx> Is there a way to run "linuxlogo" whenever I open tty1-6?
[23:17] <dustin_> So
[23:17] <dustin_> I took screenshots of the problem
[23:17] <dustin_> http://i1105.photobucket.com/albums/h358/thegrimace67/Screenshot1.png
[23:17] <dustin_> I don't understand what to do with this
[23:17] <rumpe1> xrdodrx, rungetty
[23:17] <Starminn> dustin_: (All on one line please)
[23:18] <dustin_> Can somebody help me?
[23:19] <rumpe1> xrdodrx, and something like "if [ -z "$DISPLAY" ] && [ $(tty) = /dev/tty6 ]; then linuxlogo fi" in .bashrc
[23:19] <itaylor57> dustin_: why not get java jdk from synaptic?
[23:19] <dustin_> How?
[23:19] <xrdodrx> rumpe1, thanks :D
[23:19] <rumpe1> xrdodrx, you're welcome
[23:19] <itaylor57> dustin_: do you want sun or open?
[23:19] <dustin_> Sun
[23:20] <itaylor57> dustin_: hang on a sec
[23:20] <rumpe1> dustin_, activate partner repositories, install it via package-manager
[23:20] <anoob> I can't receive webcam with emesene: "Webcam message received. Not for us<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER>"
[23:20] <dustin_> Sorry, i have no idea what you just said...
[23:21] <dustin_> I am very new to linux
[23:21] <erUSUL> !partner | dustin_
[23:21] <Scene> oh and can anyone tell me why my broadcom drivers wont work >.<
[23:21] <dustin_> Uhh...
[23:22] <Scene> dustin click on the link
[23:22] <rumpe1> dustin_, or just activate it via synaptic in the repositories section
[23:22] <Ampelbein> !work | scene
[23:22] <skullboy> !xorg
[23:23] <skullboy> syrinx: cause i want to run kde on one and gnome on the other
[23:23] <skullboy> how do i run to x servers
[23:23] <Scene> >.< ok.. i downloaded the driver stuff. the actual source and the fw-cutter or whatever it was. i restarted but it still will not run.
[23:24] <dustin_> I am still very confused
[23:24] <dustin_> Agh
[23:24] <Ampelbein> Scene: is it a bcm43?
[23:25] <Scene> yes it is
[23:25] <Ampelbein> Scene: did you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx ?
[23:26] <itaylor57> dustin_: did you run the command given you before?
[23:26] <Scene> ok ill try it
[23:26] <mcloy> can you tell me a key word in wiki pedia by which i can compare  spech of  p3 p4 centreno dual core  core 2 duo            processor ram l2 l3 cache etc ?
[23:28] <immy> is it possible to get the original timestamp of a file in a gzip archive without decompressing?
[23:29] <erUSUL> immy: a tar.gzip ?
[23:29] <itaylor57> immy: gzip -l
[23:29] <Ampelbein> immy: -l --verbose
[23:31] <xomp> hi folks, anyone familiar with setting up a supybot on ubuntu by chance?
[23:31] <immy> thx - gzip -lv does the trick
[23:31] <erUSUL> xomp: #ubuntu-bots ?
[23:31] <xomp> ah okay thanks erUSUL
[23:31] <Pici> xomp: #supybot
[23:32] <erUSUL> xomp: they use supybot. not sure if they will be wiling to help but it is worth the try
[23:32] <xomp> ah okay guys thanks
[23:32] <xomp> I'll just try to struggle through some out dated tutorial on google for now lol
[23:32] <Logan_WP> !botdoc | xomp
[23:34] <immy> i've experimented with both grsync and sbackup but i'd like to create my own backup script that does incremental backups and where files are larger than say 1MB it gzips the file
[23:34] <immy> sbackup does incremental but if i want to restore it seems as though i need to restore the last full backup then each and every subsequent incremental backup
[23:34] <rumpe1> immy, like movies? :>
[23:35] <immy> just files... mainly documents, large outlook email files (these will probably never change)...
[23:36] <erUSUL> !info rsnapshot
[23:36] <immy> ill have a tinker with rsnapshot
[23:37] <erUSUL> !info rdiff-backup
[23:39] <wauf> Hello! IS there something out there that I can use to put ubuntu, bt4, windows, and OSX ISO on a flash drive and choose what to boot from there? Im usually fixing friends computers and it would be handing to have those iso on flash rather than having to get the disks out.
[23:40] <ramon> hello
[23:40] <Ampelbein> wauf: for ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[23:40] <rumpe1> wauf, grub2 can boot isos, afaik
[23:40] <Ramon_GPS> my gimp has lost his icons
[23:40] <Ramon_GPS> mi gimp ha perdido sus iconos en los menus desplegables
[23:41] <Ampelbein> !es | Ramon_GPS
[23:41] <Ramon_GPS> ok, the fact is that my gimp has lost his icons
[23:41] <wauf> looking up grub2 - thank you!
[23:42] <Starminn> !grub2 > wauf
[23:42] <Ampelbein> Ramon_GPS: what icons?
[23:42] <Ramon_GPS> imagine you select the menu colors
[23:43] <wauf> thank you starminn and ubottu.
[23:43] <Ramon_GPS> icons appear on the left side
[23:43] <Starminn> Yep.
[23:43] <Ramon_GPS> but here on ubuntu 10.10 i have no icons anymore
[23:43] <phoenixsampras> Hello and how to install SKYPE?
[23:43] <Ramon_GPS> download from the repositories
[23:43] <itaylor57> phoenixsampras: download from ubuntu software
[23:44] <Logan_WP> !skype | phoenixsampras
[23:44] <Ampelbein> Ramon_GPS: 'gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons --type bool true'
[23:45] <Ramon_GPS> wow, you are my hero Ampelbein
[23:46] <Ampelbein> Ramon_GPS: ;-) yw
[23:50] <chaos2358> is anyone here familiar with "aircrack-ng"?
[23:50] <strhbk> hello question: can you suggest me a easy to use FOSS alternative for the MATLAB's function fmincon ? I have a non-Linear non-Convex problem and standard GSL Simplex algorithm of Nelder and Mead won't cut it...
[23:52] <chaos2358> is anyone here familiar with "aircrack-ng"?
[23:52] <Ampelbein> !anyone | chaos2358
[23:53] <chaos2358> Ampelbein,  if you don't have what I am asking for then please do not waste either of our times
[23:54] <Pici> chaos2358: If you don't ask a full question, then we won't know what you're asking about.
[23:54] <chaos2358> I am asking if anyone is familiar with "aircrack-ng" that is my question.
[23:54] <Ampelbein> yes
[23:55] <chaos2358> Ampl was the "yes " directed to my question?
[23:55] <Pici> chaos2358: I bet the folks in #aircrack-ng are.  Just a reminder though: Support for cracking other people's networks is not something you're going to get in #ubuntu
[23:55] <Ampelbein> chaos2358: yes
[23:56] <skutr3> hey im having problems with videos on youtube they play but the screen will turn gray all of the suddennnn.
[23:57] <chaos2358> Thank you. Ampelbein my only question is does it do what I am thinking it does? From the brief description I have gathered it's purpose i to gain access to password protected wireless networks. Is that correc t?
[23:57] <HotShowers> !poll
[23:58] <Ampelbein> chaos2358: you can use it for that purpose, yes.
[23:59] <mylisto> anyone here familiar with running apache?
[23:59] <mylisto> I'm trying to setup a local wordpress installation on my computer, and I'm running into some problems with apache
[23:59] <Pici> mylisto: Many people are, its best to ask your specific question about it.


[00:53] <OpenSorce> lol... no netboot directory on the lubuntu 10.04 image...
[02:08] <OpenSorce> Why is there no netboot directory on the lubuntu 10.04 cd? Is there an easy way to get the files I need to do a PXE install of Lubuntu 10.04?
[02:09] <OpenSorce> I can get the files for Ubuntu but I don't want vanilla Ubuntu on this old slow machine I want Lubuntu. And if I use the Ubuntu setup it won't accept the Release file on the Lubuntu CD... any help?
[02:42] <lubuntuuser> Hey guys, anyone here to help?
[02:45] <OpenSorce> I can't install Lubuntu via PXE. It won't accept the release file, any help?
[02:46] <lubuntuuser> I have a 500MB persistant file on my flash drive with lubuntu 12.04, it says it's full when I just started, what is wrong?
[07:17] <stutzjr> anyone here for lubuntu installation support?
[07:20] <NUCLEARWINTER> just tell us your problem and we might help if we can
[07:22] <stutzjr> ok i'm trying to boot from a flashing cursor after splash screen, used alternate install due to 256mb ram
[07:22] <stutzjr> can get to root console from recovery creen, resume boot optio results in flashing full text screen
[07:23] <NUCLEARWINTER> sounds like a graphics card problem
[07:23] <stutzjr> something onscreen about "saned disabled" is this relevant?
[07:23] <stutzjr> yeah i previously used arch, had to use mach64 driver
[07:24] <stutzjr> compaq armada e500
[07:25] <NUCLEARWINTER> http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/xserver-xorg-video-mach64
[07:25] <NUCLEARWINTER> you have that installed?
[07:26] <stutzjr> anywhere i can find boot script to find out what comes after saned?
[07:26] <stutzjr> (just checking now)
[07:27] <NUCLEARWINTER> saned = scanner
[07:27] <stutzjr> would it just be a matter of installing that using apt-get?
[07:27] <NUCLEARWINTER> you could try, and then create a xorg.conf
[07:28] <NUCLEARWINTER> and check if it uses that driver
[07:28] <NUCLEARWINTER> or try to use VESA driver
[07:29] <NUCLEARWINTER> dont you love over 10 years old hardware?-)
[07:29] <stutzjr> hey's it's just nice there's still a way for it to be uasable
[07:29] <stutzjr> is xorg.conf not created by default?
[07:33] <stutzjr> sudo Xorg -configure: fatal server error: could not create lock file in /tmp/.tX0-lock
[07:35] <stutzjr> straight X -configure same error
[07:35] <NUCLEARWINTER> can you create files into your  /tmp?
[07:38] <stutzjr> xrandr cannot open display
[08:27] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:28] <cristian_c> I've subscribed to lubuntu-qa mailing list
[08:29] <cristian_c> about this: https://answers.launchpad.net/lubuntu-default-settings/+question/206269
[08:29] <cristian_c> I'id like to change the question category
[08:29] <cristian_c> Any ideas
[08:29] <cristian_c> ?
[08:29] <cristian_c> I've not known anything about this
[08:29] <cristian_c> :(
[09:43] <leszek> hi
[10:08] <Braggart> Greeting folks.
[10:10] <Braggart> I just want to ask if the 12.10 alternate CD minimal installation option installs lubuntu-core with it.
[12:00] <neure> hi
[12:00] <neure> how do i update my vbox guest additions?
[12:01] <neure> http://i.imgur.com/U8gRm.png
[12:01] <neure> i am having this kind of issue
[12:05] <leszek> hmm... unmount the drive from lubuntu please
[12:06] <neure> it does not seem to be mounted in lubuntu
[12:08] <leszek> neure: type in mount in lxterminal to see if this is really the case
[12:08] <neure> hmm can't i copy paste without guest additions?
[12:09] <neure> is there ubuntu package containing some sort of guest additions?
[12:29] <leszek> neure: virtualbox-guest I guess
[12:29] <leszek> just search for it
[14:15] <Braggart> Greetings folks.
[14:15] <Braggart> Does the minimal option in the alternate ISO of Lubuntu have lubuntu-core or any other Lubuntu packages o it?
[14:16] <Braggart> *on it?
[17:25] <Malik_Asim> can anyone advise me on a problem I am facing editing a boot kernel in lubuntu
[17:27] <Malik_Asim> I have root access under my username and am trying to edit and save /etc/modules and save it but I can not save the file once edited, I have checked file permissions and it has root permission for editing
[18:06] <schmid> hello all together
[18:06] <Aminux> hi
[18:06] <Aminux> quick question
[18:06] <schmid> anyone here who can help with liubuntu and compiz?
[18:07] <Aminux> why is it that everytime i install lubuntu,it runs slower than the live cd ?
[18:07] <Aminux> its the same drive both for installation and live
[18:07] <schmid> dont know how to disable wallpapers in openbox, so that compiz can draw wallpapers
[18:09] <Aminux> :/
[18:18] <schmid> anybody out there who can help me?
[18:20] <Aminux> and me too
[18:20] <Aminux> :D
[18:35] <pi_> hi there
[19:41] <Guest40040> HELP!!! NO FLASH PLAYER IN CHROMIUM
[20:35] <tweakster> what does it mean when someone says this:  I wanted to nicely integrate the solution into the Ubuntu Upstart deamon?
[21:21] <snikker> hi, what's the name of lubuntu installer?
[22:37] <donnie> Hmm.  Just upgraded to Quetzal on a Mactel.  Screen rez is lower than under Precise....
[22:38] <donnie> How can I increase...?
[23:09] <neure> does lubuntu have a separate install iso image?
[23:10] <NUCLEARWINTER> what?
[23:10] <NUCLEARWINTER> you mean from the live iso?
[23:10] <neure> yeah
[23:10] <NUCLEARWINTER> 64bit or 32bit?
[23:10] <neure> i tried to install ubuntu 12.10 but it was a miserable failure
[23:11] <neure> found from lubuntu.net
[23:11] <neure> 64bit
[23:11] <NUCLEARWINTER> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/lubuntu-12.10-alternate-amd64.iso
[23:11] <NUCLEARWINTER> there you go


[16:01] <Ursinha> #startmeeting
[16:01] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:01. The chair is Ursinha.
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[16:01] <Ursinha> Happy new year!
[16:01] <noodles775> me
[16:01] <Ursinha> Welcome to this week's Launchpad Production Meeting.  For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating the resolution of specific Launchpad bugs and issues.
[16:01] <Ursinha> [TOPIC] Roll Call
[16:01] <MootBot> New Topic:  Roll Call
[16:01] <Ursinha> Not on the Launchpad Dev team? Welcome! Come "me" with the rest of us!
[16:01] <allenap> me
[16:01] <sinzui> me
[16:01] <Ursinha> hehe :)
[16:01] <Ursinha> me
[16:02] <Ursinha> stub isn't here, that's kinda fine
[16:02] <Ursinha> rockstar, hi
[16:02] <rockstar> ni!
[16:02] <Ursinha> :)
[16:02] <salgado> me
[16:02] <Ursinha> Chex, hello
[16:02] <jtv> I'm keeping one eye on the meeting, but not really here :P
[16:03] <Ursinha> jtv, thanks :)
[16:03] <Ursinha> let
[16:03] <Ursinha> let's go then
[16:03] <Ursinha> [TOPIC] Agenda
[16:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  Agenda
[16:03] <Ursinha>  * Actions from last meeting
[16:03] <Ursinha>  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
[16:03] <Ursinha>  * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
[16:03] <Ursinha>  * DBA report (stub)
[16:03] <Ursinha>  * Proposed items
[16:03] <Ursinha> [TOPIC] * Actions from last meeting
[16:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Actions from last meeting
[16:03] <Ursinha>  * Chex to file a bug about the multiple git import failures on the importd
[16:03] <Ursinha>  * Ursinha to try to come up with an older working version of oops-tools (non oops-db version)
[16:03] <Ursinha>    * Done, it's running on devpad and generating the partial summaries since before holidays. Used to generate the daily summaries as well when the db version fails for any reason.
[16:03] <Ursinha>  * Ursinha to send one email to stub about the db report
[16:03] <Ursinha>    * Sent. stub sent the report.
[16:04] <Chex> here.. sorry
[16:04] <Ursinha> Chex, hey :)
[16:04] <Ursinha> Chex, so, did you file that bug?
[16:04] <Chex> Ursinha: yes I did, let me get the bug number for you
[16:05] <Ursinha> thanks Chex
[16:05] <Ursinha> I'll keep the ball rolling while Chex finds the bug number :)
[16:05] <Ursinha> [TOPIC] * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
[16:06] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Oops report & Critical Bugs & Broken scripts
[16:06] <Ursinha> the failing scripts are being handled already, right jtv? :)
[16:06] <jtv> Ursinha: yes, I got distracted for a while by something about the database, but back on it now
[16:06] <Ursinha> jtv, haha thanks :)
[16:06] <Ursinha> and, we had a bunch of DisconnectionErrors on 4th, on staging, and are having them now on lpnet and edge
[16:06] <Ursinha> I've filed a bug for them, bug 504291, jtv kindly did his analysis
[16:06] <Ursinha> salgado, could you take this to foundations, please?
[16:07] <salgado> again!?
[16:07] <salgado> yeah, I'll have a look at it
[16:07] <Ursinha> salgado, unfortunately :(
[16:07] <Ursinha> another issue that needs to be investigated by foundations is why is staging not being updated
[16:07] <Ursinha> mthaddon filed a bug with the error
[16:08] <Ursinha> bug 504300
[16:08] <salgado> Ursinha, do you have the number?
[16:08] <Ursinha> salgado, sorry, was searching the tab
[16:08] <Chex> Ursinha: I filed a bug, and was immediately redirected to this as a duplicate bug: bug #486076.
[16:08] <Ursinha> right Chex, thanks
[16:09] <Ursinha> I'll take a look
[16:09] <Chex> Ursinha: which, when I look at it, I am not sure directly addresses our issue, but its a start, I think.
[16:09] <Ursinha> [action] salgado to take bugs 504300 and 504291 to foundations discussion
[16:09] <MootBot> ACTION received:  salgado to take bugs 504300 and 504291 to foundations discussion
[16:10] <Ursinha> salgado, is that ok for you?
[16:10] <salgado> yep
[16:10] <Ursinha> right, thanks
[16:11] <Ursinha> Chex, right, do you think it's not a duplicate? maybe a code guy could enlighten us
[16:11] <Ursinha> rockstar, ^
[16:11] <Chex> Ursinha: I was under the impression that if the code tree was very large and big, it overwhelmed the import process, with memory usage.. that doesn't seem like a memory leak to me, but I could be mistaken about that.
[16:12] <Ursinha> rockstar doesn't love us anymore
[16:13] <rockstar> Chex, we can probably sleuth whether or not it's a duplicate.  I'd suggest filing the bug.
[16:13] <Chex> Ursinha: here is the orginal bug I filed: Bug #497945 : Large git imports into bzr tree uses lots of memory
[16:13] <Ursinha> rockstar, ^
[16:14] <Chex> Ursinha: I can discuss this offline with you and/or rockstar later, not to hold up the meeting
[16:14]  * rockstar agrees
[16:14] <Ursinha> Chex, thanks :)
[16:14] <Ursinha> rockstar, thanks :)
[16:14] <Ursinha> moving on then
[16:14] <rockstar> These kinds of bugs are harder to track down, but we know they exist.
[16:15] <Ursinha> [TOPIC] * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
[16:15] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Operations report (mthaddon/Chex/spm/mbarnett)
[16:15] <Chex> here is our report for this week, folks:
[16:15] <Chex> - LP edge updates broke today (CSS broken) because make build was relying
[16:15] <Chex>     on python2.4, salgado is helping to fix this issue now.
[16:15] <Chex> - LP staging updates are broken at the moment, Bug 504300 has been filed
[16:15] <Chex>     addressing this issue.
[16:16] <Chex> - LP seeing intermittent 500s on shipit servers, we are
[16:16] <Chex>      investigating that more to see exactly what is causing those.
[16:16] <Chex> - LP incidents of note:
[16:16] <Chex>         ; LP Cherry-picks: revno 8809 rolled out to lpnet 30-Dec,
[16:16] <Chex>             revno 8810 rollout to lpnet 07-Jan;
[16:16] <Chex>         ; Crowberry upgraded from 8Gb to 32GB RAM 23-Dec
[16:16] <Chex> and thats our report for this week, any questions/comments?
[16:16] <Ursinha> not here
[16:16] <Ursinha> anyone?
[16:16] <Ursinha> [action] Chex to discuss with rockstar about bug 497945
[16:16] <MootBot> ACTION received:  Chex to discuss with rockstar about bug 497945
[16:17] <Ursinha> all right
[16:17] <Ursinha> thanks Chex!
[16:17] <Ursinha> [TOPIC] * DBA report (stub)
[16:17] <MootBot> New Topic:  * DBA report (stub)
[16:17] <Ursinha> sent by email to the list
[16:17] <Ursinha> [TOPIC] * Proposed items
[16:17] <MootBot> New Topic:  * Proposed items
[16:17] <Ursinha> anyone?
[16:17] <Chex> Ursinha: your welcome, thanks..
[16:17] <Ursinha> no items proposed in the meeting agenda page
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[16:18] <Ursinha> Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See https://dev.launchpad.net/MeetingAgenda for the logs.
[16:18] <Ursinha> #endmeeting
[16:18] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 10:18.
[16:18] <Ursinha> thanks everyone
[16:19] <noodles775> Thanks Ursinha
[16:20] <jtv> thanks Ursinha


[02:48] <toyo|work> can juju run things like apt-get update && apt-get upgrade on nodes?
[02:48] <toyo|work> in maas
[02:48] <toyo|work> guess thats not really a service
[02:50] <sarnold> toyo|work: a while back I put together an unattended-upgrades subordinate charm..
[02:51] <sarnold> toyo|work: I don't know if thats "the best" way to keep systems upgraded; landscape enrollment of the units is another option.
[02:52] <toyo|work> ah
[02:52] <toyo|work> would be nice if it was built into maas
[02:52] <toyo|work> :D
[03:26] <toyo|work> weird, I just tried setting up an apache instance tied to the juju-gui as a balancer and for whatever reason it didnt put a proxypass directive in the apache config so it dont work
[04:29] <toyo|work> when you juju destroy-machine is it supposed to power it down?
[09:39] <rick_h_> toyo|work: yea, I think landscape is the 'official' answer to the upgrade/management story there.
[09:40] <rick_h_> toyo|work: if there's something missing in the juju-gui/apache relation please file a bug and we'll look into it. I think we tend to put things like haproxy in front and not sure we've got a well tested apache relation in that situations
[18:21] <toyo|work> thanks rick_h_
[18:21] <toyo|work> rick_h_: I also figured out the answer to mass upgrades
[18:22] <toyo|work> juju run "sudo apt-get update" --all


[09:26] <faz> can anybody increase the resolution of ubuntu>>> 1240x1024 is not on the list?????????
[09:26] <nigelb> Hi, #ubuntu is the support channel. You are more likely to find help there than in here.
[09:28] <faz> can anybody increase the resolution of xubuntu>>> 1240x1024 is not on the list?????????
[09:28] <faz> now okay
[09:28] <faz> i just installed it n found nothing
[09:28] <faz> xubuntu is linux right?
[09:28] <faz> that's why
[09:29] <faz> could you help me with it
[11:35] <ramonb3rd> Hello


[10:29] <droidmaxxx> hello... help guys..
[10:30] <droidmaxxx> Ubuntu Gnome 3 screwed up ::(
[10:34] <smartboyhw> droidmaxxx, em what did you do before it screwed up?
[10:35] <droidmaxxx> hey smartboyhw
[10:35] <smartboyhw> Hello
[10:35] <droidmaxxx> smartboyhw one sec... let me type... please... help
[10:35] <smartboyhw> OK
[10:35] <droidmaxxx> I'm able to login to Gnome intstead of unity... but extension can't be installed...
[10:35] <droidmaxxx> I download that gnome3 via prepository first... big download and intstalled but it dint run...
[10:36] <droidmaxxx> via terminal it get installed but no change... and also doesn't show up in tweak tool extensions tab..
[10:36] <droidmaxxx>  via Firefox it doesn't get higlighted everything greyed out
[10:36] <droidmaxxx> no ON OFF switch to install
[10:36] <smartboyhw> !?
[10:36] <droidmaxxx> here some screenshots of my problem ---> http://imgur.com/a/B0kRL
[10:36] <smartboyhw> droidmaxxx, can't understand
[10:36] <droidmaxxx> some one said I installed gnome fallback... and I have to intall gnome shell for gnome3 how to do that?
[10:37] <smartboyhw> You want Gnome Shell OK
[10:37] <droidmaxxx> smartboyhw: which part were you not able to understand?
[10:37] <smartboyhw> droidmaxxx, which version?
[10:37] <droidmaxxx> yeah... I want gnome shell... but I actually installed Gnome3 from Ubuntu Software centre also... some 200MB downloaded
[10:38] <droidmaxxx> I don't no... which version.. :( settings info shows as just " Gnome" even tried to echo cmd... that also showed only "gnome" :(
[10:38] <smartboyhw> droidmaxxx, simple. Type `sudo apt-get install gnome-shell` in terminal
[10:40] <droidmaxxx> I got this
[10:42] <droidmaxxx> one sec...
[10:45] <droidmaxxx> hey this is what I got
[10:45] <droidmaxxx> http://imgur.com/r1PPw
[10:46] <smartboyhw> droidmaxxx, strange that means it is installed
[10:46] <droidmaxxx> yes... :(
[10:46] <droidmaxxx> that 200mb package from ubuntu software center...  I downloaded as per online guides to itstall...
[10:47] <smartboyhw> droidmaxxx, next time: DON"T
[10:48] <droidmaxxx> hm... :(
[10:49] <droidmaxxx> then what do I do now... please help...
[10:51] <droidmaxxx> can you suggest some other lightweight low resource OS which can run fast on my netbook...
[10:52] <smartboyhw> droidmaxxx, if you want to, try Lubuntu. It runs on LXDE and is quite lightweight
[10:53] <droidmaxxx> what abt xbuntu?
[10:54] <droidmaxxx> Can you suggest something that runs Gnome??
[10:54] <smartboyhw> droidmaxxx, uh slightly less lightweight then Lubuntu. However Xubuntu receives the highest praises:D
[10:55] <droidmaxxx> hmm...
[10:56] <droidmaxxx> for which can I get more apps??
[10:57] <droidmaxxx> which one would be better for networking... coz I need to connect to my netbook to vpn for work...
[10:58] <smartboyhw> droidmaxxx, um can I query you? It is not best to talk about LXDE and Xfce while in a GNOME channel:P
[10:59] <droidmaxxx> lol :D
[10:59] <droidmaxxx> sure..
[14:04] <jbicha> could someone runningg quantal+proposed verify bug 1078155 so that the update can go into quantal-updates  ?
[14:06] <jbicha> oh and bug 1067933 too
[15:58] <vooze> jbicha: have you figured out, what you are going to do with 13.04, Gnome 3.8 @ PPA or 3.6?
[16:36] <jbicha> vooze: it's too early for that decision
[16:37] <jbicha> but currently the plan is for Ubuntu 13.04 to include GNOME 3.6
[16:57] <atrus> jbicha: what are you looking to have verified for 1078155?
[17:02] <jbicha> atrus: that it works and doesn't create noticeable new bugs, thanks for verifying :)
[17:04] <atrus> good good :)
[17:04] <atrus> it occurs to me now after testing that that I almost never use workspaces any more.
[17:10] <jbicha> bug 868423 proposed to turn workspaces off by default in Unity


[04:12] <bitbarron> My Thunderbird is acting strange on my Ubuntu box.  I think there may be a memory leak.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot?


[17:32] <BenLauDC> What is the screen saver application used with hildon desktop?
[18:52] <asac> lool: there?
[18:53] <asac> lool: if so, i have to upload xul + midbrowser to PPA to unbreak it i guess
[18:53] <asac> (well, xul for security)
[22:24] <oerkrz> hi
[22:25] <oerkrz> ubuntu mobile will be possible to install on iphone ?
[22:28] <oerkrz> peut on installer google maps sur 3310 ?
[22:31] <persia> oerkrz: Ubuntu Mobile doesn't work on an iPhone.  I don't know if google maps works on a 3310 (or even what you mean by a 3310)
[22:32] <oerkrz> sorry
[22:32] <oerkrz> it was a wrong
[22:33] <persia> pas de probleme
[22:36] <davisc> Are the deps for virtual-mobile-builder or ubuntu-vm-builder broken? Getting an error: "virtual-mobile-builder: Depends: ubuntu-vm-builder (>= 0.4-0ubuntu0.3) but 0.4-0ubuntu0.3~804um1 is to be installed"
[22:38] <persia> davisc: The upload of 0.4-0ubuntu0.3~084um1 is unfortunately versioned, which causes that.  You can force it.
[22:42] <davisc> persia: Presumably wget'ing the debs and dpkg --force?
[22:44] <persia> davisc: That works, or pulling 0.4-0ubuntu0.3 from LP directly (should be somewhere under https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-vm-builder/ )
[22:56] <davisc> Will UME work on an eeePC 901? Or is it even intended for it?


[04:18] <Scary_Guy> Born and raised.  I also DJ a lot and have helped out my other DJ friend with many weddings.  Not so much these days but it used to be a staple at them.
[04:19] <Scary_Guy> It was known as "the new Hussle" because it's got the same formula and people like to dance.


[00:06] <alex285> I found the way
[00:06] <alex285> I had to pick the greek from login screen
[00:07] <alex285> But I had disabled login screen so i couldnt see that option
[00:07] <alex285> I just tried it as a lucky guess :)
[10:02] <mogitaff> Hi, do you know where xfce-power-manager store the configuration ?
[15:28] <jarnos> I copied some old directory tree (including regular files) to another partition by Thunar and now date modified is the date of copying for all files. I think the date should have been preserved. I don't understand.
[16:42] <jarnos> Update manager is _very_ slow in checking: Xorg uses about all available CPU. Can I expect some improvement in this issue?
[17:50] <DrCode> hi all
[17:50] <DrCode> all
[17:50] <DrCode> any one here?
[17:50] <Sysi> !anyone
[17:54] <DrCode> I am trying to run xubuntu 11.04 under virtualbox, it seems that xubuntu 10.04 was faster then xubunutu 11.04, any idea?
[17:55] <Sysi> how much ram can you give for that machine?
[17:57] <DrCode> 512
[17:57] <DrCode> 512mb, it seems that it take lot of CPU
[17:58] <DrCode> is there way to make xubuntu faster on old pc?
[17:58] <Sysi> not much
[17:58] <Sysi> open taskmanager and see what's using cpu
[17:59] <DrCode> xOrg
[17:59] <Wizard> disable "effects"
[17:59] <Wizard> if any :)
[17:59] <Wizard> good evening
[17:59] <DrCode> how?
[18:00] <DrCode> hi
[18:00] <Sysi> xfce doesn't have sny, problem with drivers
[18:00] <Sysi> *any
[18:00] <DrCode> xfce dosn'thave unity
[18:00] <DrCode> so I still don't understand why its so slow
[18:00] <Sysi> virtualbox is slower than direct hardware, have you installed guest additions?
[18:00] <DrCode> mybe the kernel 2.6.38 have bug in virtualbox?
[18:00] <DrCode> yes
[18:01] <Sysi> could be bug too
[18:01] <DrCode> ubuntu 10.04 work exclent
[18:01] <DrCode> I also upgrade into kernel 3.0.0 and same problem
[18:01] <Sysi> if you have old machine you should make real installation
[18:01] <DrCode> ok
[18:02] <DrCode> I have in my laptop xubuntu 11.04 that work ok
[18:02] <Sysi> you could try settings more graphics memory for it
[18:02] <DrCode> but I need VirtualBox for some testing
[18:02] <Wizard> I'd like to use LTS :S
[18:03] <DrCode> 11.04 is stable ver?
[18:03] <Sysi> it is
[18:03] <Wizard> for me it's still in beta
[18:03] <Wizard> ;P
[18:04] <DrCode> ok
[18:04] <DrCode> thanx Sysi and Wizard
[18:04] <Wizard> I haven't helped much
[19:03] <n2diy>  Would copying /home between two boxes result in slowing them down? That's how I've been backing up my files, and one box has become so slow it is unusably.
[19:04] <charlie-tca> depends on which releases are installed and how you copy
[19:06] <genii-around> If you're using /home/username while copying /home/username file-locking might be problemmatic
[19:06] <charlie-tca> n2diy: seems the answer should be "yes, it can"
[19:09] <Myrtti> also depends on the protocol you are using
[19:10] <genii-around> hopefully something like differential rsync :)
[19:11] <n2diy> charlie-tca, genii-around, ok, same releases, but different hardware. I'm thinking that whatever loads modules has been "polluted"? Lsmod show lots of modules loaded, and I'm just running plain jane systems.
[19:11] <charlie-tca> just copying /home should not be copying those modules
[19:12] <n2diy> charlie-tca, ok, so nix that idea.
[19:12] <charlie-tca> however, it could fill the drives if nothing is ever deleted from the machine being copied to
[19:12] <charlie-tca> I create files, system creates backups, I delete files. If I copy to the other machine before I delete, those are copied
[19:13] <n2diy> charlie-tca, ok, I'm using grsync, and have setup my include and exclude files to ignore all the caching files, and I also have set "delete on destination" so as not to probagate deleted files.
[19:14] <charlie-tca> Are you running updates on both systems? Do both systems have the same video? nvidia at least creates files in /home for video
[19:14] <n2diy> charlie-tca, could xorg-config be polluted?
[19:15] <n2diy> charlie-tca, yes, staying up to date.
[19:15] <charlie-tca> If both systems do not have the same apps installed, it might be looking for one that isn't there
[19:16] <n2diy> charlie-tca, so, if one box had kstars, and the other one didn't, that could be an issue?
[19:16] <Trowa> Hey all, I'm attempting to install 10.10 via the alternate CD, however when I get the option to install, I get the error "/install/vmlinuz: file not found"
[19:16] <charlie-tca> yup
[19:16] <charlie-tca> n2diy: anything that creates a file in /home could be a problem if it is not on both systems
[19:17] <charlie-tca> Trowa: usb install?
[19:17] <n2diy> charlie-tca, ok, so it wouldn't hurt to reconfigure x?
[19:17] <Trowa> charlie-tca:  CD
[19:17] <charlie-tca> n2diy: should hurt anything
[19:17] <charlie-tca> Trowa: then it is a bad cd or bad download
[19:18] <Trowa> Alright, I'll try it again.  Thanks.
[19:18] <n2diy> charlie-tca, ok, can you refresh me on that command syntax?
[19:18] <genii-around> !md5 | Trowa
[19:18] <charlie-tca> Anyone know the syntax for dpkg reconfigure?
[19:18] <Trowa> Thanks, ubottu
[19:18] <Trowa> er, yeah.  haha
[19:18] <charlie-tca> I get it wrong everytime
[19:19] <n2diy> :)
[19:19] <n2diy> charlie-tca, ok, I can track it down with google, thanks.
[19:19] <genii-around> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -dlow xserver-xorg     ... or similar...
[19:20] <genii-around> bah.
[19:20] <genii-around> Apologies, I think is -plow for ask all questions, not -dlow
[19:20]  * genii-around sneaks out for more caffeine
[21:22] <boogzta> Hello everyone
[21:25] <boogzta> Quick question: I'm trying to install Xubuntu 11.04 (Natty) on an old 1300 mhz box with 256 mb RAM.. and it keeps hanging/freezing during the installation. I've tested the disks integrity and it seems to be a good burn. Any tips or advice on this matter would be appreciated.
[21:25] <Unit193> Are you using the Alt ISO?
[21:26] <boogzta> I'm not familiar with the alt iso
[21:26] <Unit193> !alternate
[21:27] <boogzta> Ahh! Very nice.. I'll give that one a try. Thank you very much. :]
[21:28] <boogzta> I was using the standard Live CD
[21:28] <Unit193> That's much better with low ram computers
[21:29] <boogzta> Is it fairly easy to install?  I'm a Linux neophyte.
[21:31] <boogzta> Just curious. But, I plan on reading the documentation, etc.
[21:32] <Unit193> I think it's easy, but it has a "Text User Interface" meaning that it is still easy to use
[21:34] <boogzta> Very nice.  Do you think it's a RAM issue that's acusing my install to hang?  or possibly video? The old machine is using onboard graphics, which aren't too impressive, lol.
[21:34] <boogzta> causing*
[21:34] <Unit193> I'm not on something all that awesome
[21:35] <boogzta> Same here. This machine is a P4 2.4 gig
[21:36] <boogzta> But Xubuntu 11.04 runs smooth as silk on here
[21:36]  * Unit193 Optiplex GX260 with a better CPU and more RAM than you have
[21:36] <boogzta> :P
[21:37] <charlie-tca> boogzta: it will work, but you probably should not try to run more than one app at a time on the 245MB ram
[21:37] <charlie-tca> boogzta: it will work, but you probably should not try to run more than one app at a time on the 256MB
[21:38] <boogzta> What about if I up the RAM to 512?
[21:40] <boogzta> Silly question, I know.  But I'm debating whether to go with 11.04 on that machine.. or opt for a lighter distro
[21:40]  * Unit193 makes no comments
[21:40] <charlie-tca> more ram is always better
[21:41] <charlie-tca> You tried the desktop cd. It has a live session. Did you check it out and see how it works?
[21:42] <boogzta> yes, the live session locked up as well
[21:42] <boogzta> it wouldn't fully load the desktop environment
[21:43] <charlie-tca> Then it will run quite badly. You might want to look into Lubuntu, which is lighter
[21:43] <charlie-tca> !lubuntu
[21:43] <boogzta> Does Lubunto have the same type package installer as Xubuntu?
[21:44] <charlie-tca> Lubuntu does use the same installer, for oneiric
[21:44] <charlie-tca> For the other releases, it is different
[21:45] <charlie-tca> Grab the oneiric desktop image and try it. It is only a few weeks now to the final release of Oneiric.
[21:45] <charlie-tca> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/
[21:45] <Unit193> You would have to go with !mini for Natty
[21:46] <boogzta> Ok awesome, because I'm still learning the commands and whatnot.. so the GUI is very helpful atm
[21:48] <boogzta> Another question, if I may:  I installed Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty) on a newer machine (core 2 quad with Asus 1 gb gpu) and it won't load Unity by default. It kicks me to gnome and says that my hardware isn't capable to run Unity, Etc. Any idea why?
[21:52] <boogzta> Maybe I should be in the apropriae channel for that question. Sorry about that.
[21:52] <Unit193> Yeah, I have no idea as I don't run Unity :P
[21:53] <boogzta> Anyway, thank you all for the assistance!  I'm off to download Lubuntu and Oneiric. I'll let you know soon if it was a success or not. :]
[21:55] <Unit193> Ok, cool
[22:41] <Brutus-> Hi, what is the xubuntu's file manager name, please?
[22:41] <Unit193> The default for Xubuntu is thunar
[22:43] <Brutus-> thanks
[22:44] <Unit193> Sure
[23:47] <ChristopherNG> Hey folks
[23:47] <ChristopherNG> Whats gonig on?