[10:20] <locke> 0.9.26 is supposed to run this game flawlessly but all attempts to run wine or winecfg or wine --version when 0.9.24 was installed gave segfault
[10:20] <zetheroo> dystopianray: should I upgrade it?
[10:20] <dystopianray> zetheroo: if you want
[10:20] <zetheroo> dystopianray: how do I?
[10:20] <dystopianray> zetheroo: I don't know, I don't use ati
[10:20] <[nrx] > dystopianray, yes, but it wont let me... when I try and run anything under sudo, it tells me that error message "sudo: unable to lookup Thor via gethostbyname()"
[10:21] <locke> i just tried to install cpuinfo but no package exists
[10:21] <locke> what is cpuinfo and where is it from
[10:21] <dystopianray> [nrx] : can you do the following:
[10:21] <zetheroo> does anyone else here use the X1400 ATI graphics card?
[10:21] <dystopianray> [nrx] : hrrm actually nevermind
[10:21] <zaidar> [nrx] , you could just boot with the ubuntu cd in recovery and chroot to edit it
[10:21] <dystopianray> [nrx] : yeah do what zaidar said
[10:21] <pazifi_> jetzt
[10:21] <locke> hardinim gonna instyall hardinfo
[10:21] <[nrx] > ARGH
[10:21] <[nrx] > I don't have a flamin CD
[10:21] <[nrx] > actually
[10:21] <[nrx] > i have dual boot
[10:21] <hero> is there any program similar to Abby Fine Reader OCR for Ubuntu 7.04
[10:22] <zetheroo> I hope Gutsy is going to be better becasue this is very disapointing
[10:22] <[nrx] > is there a small windows app that will let me access the ext3 partition and edit it?
[10:22] <zetheroo> brand new laptop and great graphics.... but can't use it....
[10:22] <zaidar> [nrx] , download it and burn one
[10:22] <_buz> could someone running *feisty* kindly paste the output of cat /proc/asound/version ?
[10:22] <zaidar> [nrx] , you should keep one handy
[10:22] <[nrx] > all for a hosts file? c'mon. gotta be an easier way
[10:22] <dystopianray> zetheroo: this is the fault of ATI
[10:22] <[nrx] > i left it at home :P
[10:22] <dystopianray> zetheroo: you should not have bought ATI
[10:23] <zetheroo> dystopianray: how should I know that?
[10:23] <djroze> hey, who has time for a quick supporty question?
[10:23] <dew> [nrx] , there is a way to access an ext3 partition, but it can be tricky.  It involves drivers
[10:23] <dystopianray> _buz: 1.0.14rc1
[10:23] <nanonyme> intel <3
[10:23] <[nrx] > dew, i'm happy with that :)
[10:23] <pazifi_> intel FTW
[10:23] <_buz> dystopianray: thanks a lot
[10:23] <[nrx] > dew, tell me more! :)
[10:23] <zetheroo> dystopianray: my T30 Thinkpad has ATI graphics and it works perfectly with beryl adn all
[10:23] <hero> is there any program similar to Abby Fine Reader OCR for Ubuntu 7.04?? :'(
[10:23] <dystopianray> zetheroo: research the equipment you are buying
[10:24] <predaeus> djroze, just ask your question
[10:24] <gordonjcp> !ask | djroze
[10:24] <Ubotu> djroze: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:24] <dystopianray> [nrx] : it's likely to cause more problems
[10:24] <zetheroo> so Ubuntu is not all its cracked up to be.... sob
[10:24] <dystopianray> [nrx] : you just need any linux livecd with a text editor
[10:24] <dystopianray> [nrx] : damns mall linux will do, it's 50MB
[10:24] <pazifi_> o0
[10:24] <dystopianray> zetheroo: it is ATI's fault, not ubuntu
[10:24] <[nrx] > true.
[10:24] <[nrx] > i'll boot into windows :)
[10:24] <[nrx] > </swear>
[10:24] <Irreducibilis> I have DSL on a flash drive :)
[10:24] <Slick`> Greetins.
[10:25] <zaidar> [nrx] , you can access from windows easily but not write to the drive
[10:25] <jan_> morning
[10:25] <jan_> anyone here uses svn?
[10:25] <Slick`> hehe 11:25 AM
[10:25] <pazifi_> moin
[10:25] <djroze> okie, digg
[10:25] <dystopianray> jan_: i do
[10:25] <zetheroo> dystopianray: what does ATI have to do with it?
[10:25] <jan_> here it's 10.25
[10:25] <dew> [nrx] , unfortunately I tend to agree with dystopianray.... it's possible but a lot of problems
[10:25] <phoenix24> why can't I edit the /proc/sys files using a text editor ?
[10:25] <dystopianray> zetheroo: ATI made the driver
[10:25] <djroze> so i am trying to install some wireless driver stuff
[10:25] <Wess> Any one knows how can I uninstall grub as a boot loader
[10:25] <dystopianray> zetheroo: and the driver is crap
[10:25] <dwa> zetheroo: to be more precise, they forgot to make the driver
[10:25] <[nrx] > dystopianray, this hosts file issue. Would that explain why a lot of the apps are failing to load?
[10:25] <dystopianray> phoenix24: it's not a real file
[10:25] <zetheroo> dystopianray: so why do other ATI cards work great and this particular one does not?
[10:25] <jan_> dystopianray: do you know if there is a way that i can do for ex 'svn co https://dev/test /home/jan/projects/test/' ?
[10:26] <dystopianray> zetheroo: they are older cards
[10:26] <djroze> was trying to apt-get this package bcm43xx-fwcutter
[10:26] <kujo> does anyone know if i can use itunes on linux?
[10:26] <hero> is there any program similar to Abby Fine Reader OCR for Ubuntu 7.04?? I need a program to convert text image into a word file.:'(:'(
[10:26] <yotam> hi all.
[10:26] <kujo> on ubuntu, that is
[10:26] <djroze> and it tried to do this post-install download of a firmware file
[10:26] <dystopianray> jan_: yes there is, just type that command
[10:26] <djroze> so i said okie
[10:26] <jan_> really ?
[10:26] <zetheroo> dystopianray: so Ubuntu is backwards compatible but not forwards?
[10:26] <zaidar> [nrx] , i would have had that hosts file fixed and playing yahoo pool by now ... get a livecd
[10:26] <dystopianray> jan_: wait a second
[10:26] <djroze> and it had a 404, b/c the file has moved
[10:26] <bullgard4> dystopianray: http://paste.debian.net/36978
[10:26] <jan_> ok
[10:26] <[nrx] > zaidar, thanks
[10:26] <predaeus> phoenix24, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procfs
[10:26] <dystopianray> jan_: is that a local directory you want to use as a repository?
[10:26] <sauvin> I thought itunes had no linux version; it's available, afaik, only for windows and mac osx. I wonder if itunes would run under wine?
[10:26] <dew> wow.... everyone loves dystopianray
[10:26] <djroze> so now every time i try to remove/reinstall, it looks to that same position...can't seem to clean it or anything
[10:26] <jan_> dystopianray: yes
[10:27] <yotam> does anybody know how to remove the ati driver (the one downloaded from the web)?
[10:27] <MasonUS> kujo: I think I saw something about an application that was supposed to sync ipods from linux
[10:27] <djroze> i think i found the new URL for the file but i can't seem to tell apt-get to use the new one
[10:27] <jan_> dystopianray: i just want that the file will be placed there
[10:27] <jan_> ;)
[10:27] <zetheroo> dystopianray: the windows drivers are all there for this card..... but in Linux nothing! So Ati has made the drivers for it.....for windows at least...
[10:27] <MasonUS> kujo: although I think it could breach your warranty
[10:28] <dystopianray> zetheroo: that's right, windows is the main concern of ATI, not linux
[10:28] <MasonUS> kujo: have you tried googling "using ipod with linux" ?
[10:28] <[nrx] > MasonUS, lol
[10:28] <dystopianray> zetheroo: you may have more luck with the 8.41 drivers though
[10:28] <zetheroo> dystopianray: does ATI make linux drivers?
[10:28] <MasonUS> :)
[10:28] <dystopianray> zetheroo: yes, fglrx IS ATI's driver
[10:28] <yotam> anybody?
[10:28] <dystopianray> zetheroo: ATI wrote that driver, it's crap becuase of ATI
[10:29] <Irreducibilis> ATI = Crap
[10:29] <Irreducibilis> Nvidia = YAY!
[10:29] <djroze> so, any ideas on how i can tell apt-get to forget about the old URL?
[10:29] <[nrx] > NVidia ftw!
[10:29] <Irreducibilis> W00t
[10:29] <zetheroo> dystopianray: I see
[10:29] <SlimeyPete> djroze: have you rn an "apt-get update"?
[10:29] <Irreducibilis> eVga 8800 GTX ftw
[10:29] <brutopia> haven't you heard that ATI released specs of it's newest GPUs
[10:29] <Irreducibilis> Too bad I only have a 5500...
[10:29] <djroze> yeah slimey, i think so
[10:29] <dystopianray> jan_: I don't remember the exact commands, but basically you create a repository in a directory somewhere
[10:29] <zetheroo> dystopianray: how do I change to the drivers your suggesting?
[10:30] <brutopia> it shouldn't be long that there's proper open-source driver released
[10:30] <dystopianray> jan_: and then you can checkout/commit/etc on that directory
[10:30] <djroze> i am sharing one internet connection so i can't do it right on the spot
[10:30] <zetheroo> dystopianray: and why do you suggest them?
[10:30] <djroze> but pretty sure i did
[10:30] <dystopianray> zetheroo: I don't know, I don't use ATI
[10:30] <Irreducibilis> ATI and AMD is teh suxzors
[10:30] <dew> ...wow holy smoke it's 4:30am here!
[10:30] <Some_ux> muhaha, i managed to run Cooln'quiet on startup
[10:30] <dew> I better get outta here.
[10:30] <dystopianray> zetheroo: they were only just released today, support more hardware and apparently have twice the performance
[10:30] <dew> Later all
[10:30] <MasonUS> irreduciblis:I've used AMD products, worked just fine for me.
[10:30] <Irreducibilis> Intel Core 2 Quad, ftw.... speaking of, is ubuntu capable of utilizing all 4 cores?
[10:30] <dystopianray> AMD is great, ATI suck
[10:31] <nanonyme> brutopia, actually is that even true? didn't they just release specs for the devices that were already reverse-engineered?
[10:31] <MasonUS> irreduciblis: can you justify that statement you've made?
[10:31] <zetheroo> dystopianray: but you don't know how I can get them?
[10:31] <zetheroo> ok
[10:31] <dystopianray> Irreducibilis: yes, ubuntu can use 64 cpus by default
[10:31] <sadnewb> sorry to bother everyone with a probably simple problem...i recently had a bunch of programs (including synaptic and the terminal) dissappear from the menus. The add/remove programs doesn't open either.  Intel currently pwns with the Core quad
[10:31] <dystopianray> zetheroo: I don't use ATI, I don't know how to install their drivers
[10:31] <bintut> how do you guys implement an "auto-provisioning config file" from dhcpd server to your workstations?
[10:31] <zetheroo> dystopianray: oh and ppl.... ATI just announced that they are going Open Source, so they may not suck that badly
[10:32] <nanonyme> zetheroo, it's a marketing stunt, most likely
[10:32] <MasonUS> Irreduciblis: Why do they suck? Is there some function of ubuntu that you can't use with an AMD chip?
[10:32] <dystopianray> zetheroo: they are not going open source, they are releasing a minimal 2d-only driver that is open source
[10:32] <nanonyme> MasonUS, speed issues
[10:32] <zetheroo> nanonyme: what isn't a marketing stunt these days?
[10:32] <dystopianray> zetheroo: it'll be just as rubbish as the 'nv' driver
[10:32] <Irreducibilis> MasonUS: They are just slower than intel at the moment. If they releaced a chip that pwns the Core 2 Quad right now, I would say the opposite, that AMD rules.
[10:32] <nanonyme> zetheroo, the thing that intel does with their display adapters
[10:33] <nanonyme> zetheroo, the specs are fully open, intel will probably be the kind of the hill on linux display adapters eventually
[10:33] <nanonyme> king of the hill even
[10:33] <MasonUS> Irreducibilis: Yeah but you said that they "sucked" Its like saying that a carolla "sucks" because it isn't as fast a ferrari.
[10:33] <Irreducibilis> Depends on the usage.
[10:33] <zetheroo> interesting
[10:33] <MasonUS> Irreduciblis:agreed.
[10:33] <dystopianray> AMD has superior 64-bit performance
[10:33] <Irreducibilis> That is true.
[10:33] <dystopianray> and has better performance per dollar
[10:33] <Irreducibilis> But... clock speed... w00t
[10:33] <Irreducibilis> and the core #
[10:33] <zetheroo> I like AMD
[10:34] <MasonUS> So do I.
[10:34] <[nrx] > 297kb/sec
[10:34] <[nrx] > ;o
[10:34] <weka> hey there all ... got a dapper cli install that "needs" a minimal gui whats the key apt-get s to get sat fvwm up and running ?
[10:34] <dystopianray> as do I
[10:34] <zetheroo> How is the Gutsy Gibbon going to upgrade our systems?
[10:34] <Irreducibilis> Well, I am a gamer
[10:34] <weka> * say
[10:34] <MasonUS> :) I am not.
[10:34] <nanonyme> weka, fvwm isn't minimal gui
[10:34] <dystopianray> nor am I
[10:34] <[nrx] > "System Rescue CD"
[10:34] <zetheroo> is it going to be a complete makeover?
[10:34] <[nrx] > that'll do ;p
[10:35] <dystopianray> zetheroo: no
[10:35] <nanonyme> minimal gui is X
[10:35] <dystopianray> zetheroo: each ubuntu release is incremental changes
[10:35] <dystopianray> weka: minimal is twm
[10:35] <dystopianray> weka: it comes with X
[10:35] <weka> nanondoh!
[10:35] <zetheroo> dystopianray: is it going to update automatically?
[10:35] <zetheroo> dystopianray: like online?
[10:35] <nanonyme> yeah and you can also use X without a window manager :)
[10:35] <Delta> hey can somebody remind me the files you have to change to change the resolution and the options when I load GRUB?
[10:35] <dystopianray> zetheroo: fiesty won't automatically become gutsy, if that's what you mean
[10:35] <Some_ux> ok, so when i type: sensors i get this weird voltage reading. how do i get from it my cpu temerpature ?
[10:35] <byonix> anyone knows tutorial about drupal 5.1
[10:36] <zetheroo> dystopianray: so what does one need to do to upgrade?
[10:36] <byonix> anyone knows tutorial about drupal 5.1
[10:36] <weka> yep i ment twm .. its been a while
[10:36] <dystopianray> zetheroo: ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:36] <Flannel> zetheroo: Update manager will give you an option to upgrade over the web, yes.
[10:36] <zaidar> [nrx] , it might be helpful for you to investigate WHY your hosts file was empty...
[10:36] <dystopianray> weka: you'll already have twm if you have X
[10:36] <MasonUS> I wish I could log this chatroom and save it to a documen that I could browse through on my pocketPC.  Lol, I learn more here in 10 minutes than I do in an hour on googling these issues.
[10:36] <weka> no x
[10:36] <zetheroo> Flannel: Awesome
[10:36] <boontoo> DADJSID
[10:37] <zetheroo> Flannel: Will it mean better graphics drivers etc?
[10:37] <Flannel> MasonUS: logs are posted to the interblags
[10:37] <weka> just don't nknow the key syntax to apt X ..
[10:37] <dsad> anyway, my Login screen doesnt show up and for some reason i cant access the login configurator from the menu, any ideas
[10:37] <MasonUS> flannel:inerblags?
[10:37] <MasonUS> flannel: URL?
[10:37] <dystopianray> zetheroo: gutsy will have newer versions of most (all?) packages
[10:37] <[nrx] > zaidar, I think I have a feeling that I know *goes red*
[10:37] <dystopianray> zetheroo: including drivers and the kernel
[10:37] <weka> simple stuff really ... how do i apt-get X into dapper ?
[10:37] <djroze> anyone else have advice for how to get apt-get to forget that post-install firmware download?  :'(
[10:38] <Irreducibilis> [nrx] : Get a little delete happy?
[10:38] <Flannel> !logs | MasonUS
[10:38] <Ubotu> MasonUS: Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[10:38] <dystopianray> djroze: ctrl+c ?
[10:38] <zaidar> [nrx] , *goes red* ?
[10:38] <zetheroo> dystopianray: what about Pocket PC's?
[10:38] <MasonUS> Thanks fellas.
[10:38] <MasonUS> I'll check that out
[10:38] <[nrx] > Irreducibilis, connection properties... then the "hosts" tab. removed the wrong entries heh
[10:38] <dystopianray> zetheroo: a pda?
[10:38] <djroze> dystopianray: during what execution?
[10:38] <Irreducibilis> Yeah
[10:38] <zetheroo> dystopianray: will gutsy have a better app for that?
[10:38] <dystopianray> djroze: while it's downloading
[10:38] <Flannel> zetheroo: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/tribe5  Although, #ubuntu+1 is a better place to ask.
[10:38] <zetheroo> dystopianray: PDA
[10:38] <Irreducibilis> PPC is the windows OS for PDAs
[10:38] <dystopianray> zetheroo: I have no idea
[10:38] <phoenix24> how could I disable all my outgoing network sessions ?
[10:38] <dystopianray> zetheroo: ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:39] <djroze> dystopianray: it has a 404 error, so basically there is no time
[10:39] <zaidar> [nrx] , ahh been there
[10:39] <dystopianray> phoenix24: unplug the cat5
[10:39] <phoenix24> dystopianray: anything else?
[10:39] <dystopianray> phoenix24: turn off your computer
[10:39] <[nrx] > zaidar, but that was in an attempt to get the connection working. so once I have the hosts file sorted, I think i'll still have the same problem.. although maybe a little further forward
[10:39] <zetheroo> what is ubuntu+1?.....
[10:39] <dsad> When ubuntu boots it boots strait into a terminal, not to my Login screen, how do i fix that?
[10:39] <dystopianray> zetheroo: the channel #ubuntu+1
[10:39] <Flannel> zetheroo: /join #ubuntu+1
[10:39] <phoenix24> dystopianray: naah! bette
[10:39] <dystopianray> zetheroo: the gutsy irc channel
[10:39] <zetheroo> oh ok
[10:39] <zaidar> [nrx] , much further ;)
[10:39] <dystopianray> phoenix24: unload your nic driver
[10:39] <Some_ux> why does it say core1 core0 when i type sensors ? I only have a singlke core ?
[10:39] <Some_ux> single
[10:40] <bullgard4> dystopianray: http://paste.debian.net/36978
[10:40] <Flannel> Some_ux: Hyperthreading
[10:40] <dystopianray> Some_ux: it may not mean 'core' as in cpu cores
[10:40] <weka> ok so how can i install X into a cli dapper ?
[10:40] <Irreducibilis> Logical and physical cores are different things
[10:40] <dystopianray> bullgard4: which information do you want from edid?
[10:40] <leladia> i noticed that whenever i change my shell from bash to csh the settings i changed in the csh will return to its default. why is that?
[10:40] <bullgard4> dystopianray: The height of my display in millimeters.
[10:41] <predaeus> phoenix24, use firestarter to set iptables firewall rules.
[10:41] <Flannel> weka: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, will install the ubuntu desktop.  xserver-xorg is the x server itself though
[10:41] <phoenix24> predaeus: thanks
[10:41] <predaeus> phoenix24, or learn how to set them directly with iptables. you can e.g. just drop every outgoing package.
[10:41] <dsad> When ubuntu boots it boots strait into a terminal, not to my Login screen, how do i fix that?
[10:41] <Irreducibilis> I want the weight in my ubuntu partition in metric tons
[10:41] <dystopianray> bullgard4: xdpyinfo | grep dimensions
[10:41] <bhara1> hi, how to specify permissions in sudo so that one can only mount the drives...
[10:42] <phoenix24> predaeus: any tutorial you recommend for iptables ?
[10:42] <dystopianray> phoenix24: why do you want to drop all outgoing packets?
[10:42] <weka> Flannel: i have the xserver-xorg-core ... but just want X then say twm ... gotta keep this small
[10:42] <zaidar> dsad, for now log in and type startx
[10:42] <[nrx] > tutorial for iptables?
[10:42] <predaeus> phoenix24, there should be lots on the web
[10:42] <[nrx] > wow.
[10:43] <dsad> zaidar: how about setting the Grub splash to default?
[10:43] <dystopianray> weka: do you have video and input drivers installed?
[10:43] <Flannel> weka: ah, then yeah, install xorg then install twm, and you'll be fine
[10:43] <MasonUS> I wish grub was a little more user friendly.
[10:43] <zaidar> dsad, gksu gdm-setup
[10:44] <MasonUS> Is there a GUI for configuring it?
[10:44] <weka> i need the syntax for the apt-get .. "xorg" don't work
[10:44] <Some_ux> strange, doesnt lm-sensors understand which fan/diode belongs to the cpu and which to the motherboard ?
[10:44] <zaidar> dsad, gksu gdmsetup  NO dash
[10:44] <zaidar> dsad, sorry
[10:44] <dsad> np
[10:44] <dsad> but it doesnt work anyway
[10:44] <zaidar> are you logged into your desktop?
[10:44] <weka> Couldn't find package xorg
[10:45] <bullgard4> dystopianray: xdpyinfo | grep dimensions types the y dimension wrongly. It is not 212 mm as stated but it is 207 mm. How can I correct xdyinfo's data?
[10:45] <dystopianray> Some_ux: there is no way to tell and it's different for each mobo, it comes with a hardcoded list of possible sensor names for different chips
[10:45] <zaidar> dsad, are you logged in to your desktop?
[10:45] <Delta> hey can somebody remind me the files you have to change to change the resolution and the options when I load GRUB?
[10:45] <dystopianray> bullgard4: you can configure X with a specific size for your display, google for it
[10:45] <h1st0_> Anyone know if I build my own kernel boot in to it and isntall the nvidia drivers will I have issues because I have nvidia-glx installed on this kernel?
[10:45] <weka> doh guess i need to point at the xorg repo huh ?
[10:45] <[nrx] > weka, lol
[10:45] <dystopianray> h1st0_: nvidia-glx is independant of the kernel, but you will need to build a new nvidia driver for the new kernel
[10:46] <dsad> zaidar: yeh im in gnome but ive been having a lot of problems with it lately after the kernel update everything has stopped working properly, sound, login screens, ive had to chown this and that
[10:46] <weka> nrx: shucks ..
[10:46] <h1st0_> dystopianray: can both coexhist on the same system or do I have to remove nvidia-glx and install the other?
[10:46] <weka> ..been a long day
[10:46] <[nrx] > weka, I know that feeling very well
[10:46] <[nrx] > heh
[10:46] <zaidar> dsad, i would just remove the new kernel
[10:46] <dsad> how do u do that? lol
[10:46] <dystopianray> h1st0_: i'm not sure exactly what you'll need to do to build your own ubuntu kernel i'm afraid
[10:46] <bullgard4> dystopianray: I will try to google for it.
[10:46] <blia> ?
[10:46] <dsad> can i take it back to -14?
[10:47] <Some_ux> dystopianray: I dont understand how Hyperthreading makes me get 2 readings for core temperature. Does Hyperthreading involve setting a second diode in the chipset ?
[10:47] <h1st0_> dystopianray: no I'm building a 2.6.22 kernel from kernel.org i'm just wondering if I boot to that instead of the feisty stock kernel and install nvidia drivers if I should remove nvidia-glx package first?
[10:47] <zaidar> dsad, sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic
[10:47] <MasonUS> I just found the logging feature in xchat.
[10:48] <linuxnoob> I'm looking for a software raid solution, having come from windows and being new to linux one with a gui would be helpful, I have my os on two hardware raided 9GB drives and three other drives mounted in ubuntu....whats my next step if i want to software raid the three extra drives
[10:48] <MasonUS> 2 places to go for logs.
[10:48] <MasonUS> awesome.
[10:48] <zaidar> dsad, youre on a pc right?
[10:48] <unixslut> hey
[10:48] <leladia> anyone good wit csh?
[10:48] <dsad> zaidar: laptop acer craptop
[10:48] <zaidar> dsad, yup
[10:49] <dystopianray> h1st0_: if the nvidia kernel you install matches nvidia-glx then you should be able to leave it
[10:49] <zaidar> dsad, sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic
[10:49] <MasonUS> I've got one of those 350 dollar acer craptops myself.
[10:49] <dsad> i would like -14
[10:49] <MasonUS> works well with the 2gb ram upgrade though.
[10:49] <jonnymac> dum-dum question - how do I detect my integrated webcam
[10:49] <dystopianray> Some_ux: the 'cores' that sensors talk about are probably not cpu cores
[10:49] <dsad> bceause i can still boot to 15 and it isnt that much better
[10:49] <zaidar> dsad, i don't see it in the repos
[10:49] <h1st0_> dystopianray: no.  two completely different kernels with the new one I won't be able to use nvidia-glx
[10:49] <dystopianray> h1st0_: nvidia-glx has nothing to do witht he kernel
[10:49] <dystopianray> h1st0_: as long as you have the a matching nvidia kernel module, it'll work
[10:50] <zaidar> dsad, then sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic
[10:50] <dsad> ty
[10:50] <dystopianray> Some_ux: your cpu may have two temperature probes, or sensors may be giving the wrong names
[10:50] <zaidar> dsad, then sudo apt-get remove --purge linux-image-2.6.20-16-generic i mean
[10:50] <zetheroo> http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/07/09/12/1747202.shtml
[10:50] <dsad> zaidar: ok thanks
[10:50] <malqos> i have problem with mplayer, when i would like to open a movie a see: fatal error!error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device. what can i do?
[10:51] <Irreducibilis> Fatal error? I hope everything is still alive.
[10:51] <zaidar> dsad, then sudo update-grub
[10:51] <Some_ux> dystopianray: I see, so most likely it is reffering to the MB and Core0 temperatures... at least by the numbers i get it makes sense
[10:51] <malqos> yes
[10:51] <malqos> everything its ok
[10:51] <dsad> ok zaidar ty im gona reboot to -15 before i remove 16 tho brb
[10:51] <zaidar> dsad, i'll be here
[10:51] <malqos> but its doesnt work
[10:51] <malqos> :(
[10:51] <malqos> mplayer
[10:53] <Frogzoo> just switched from CRT to LCD, and now after the (full screen) gnome login, I get a cursor, but the desktop doesn't start ?
[10:53] <Frogzoo> first obvious question - does the fglrx support DVI ?
[10:54] <dystopianray> Some_ux: there is a file in /etc/ that you can modify so the sensors are correctly labelled
[10:54] <boontoo> zaidar: im back, what was teh command to fix the grub splash again
[10:55] <dystopianray> frogzoo: it should
[10:55] <dystopianray> frogzoo: if it didn't support dvi you wouldn't see anything
[10:55] <Some_ux> dystopianray: cool, assuming i know which is which :P
[10:56] <Some_ux> doesnt the sesors-detect thinggy do it for me ?
[10:56] <dystopianray> Some_ux: all it does is detect sensor chips, there is no trivial way to detect which sensors are for what
[10:56] <ppj> what's the wireless stumbler program that comes with ubuntu?
[10:56] <ppj> iwspy?
[10:57] <zaidar> boontoo, sudo update-grub
[10:57] <dystopianray> ppj: kismet is great for detecting networks
[10:57] <ppj> yeah i cant apt get anything, no wireless
[10:57] <boontoo> zaidar: yep i did that and stil the grub splash is stuffed
[10:57] <ppj> need the one that comes with ubuntu
[10:58] <Frogzoo> ppj: you probably want kismet
[10:58] <ppj> does that COME with the default ubuntu install?
[10:58] <ppj> or on the cd?
[10:58] <Frogzoo> ppj: network manager is there per default
[10:58] <ppj> not finding it
[10:58] <ppj> yeah
[10:58] <Some_ux> dystopianray: which /etc/ should i mess around with ?
[10:58] <ppj> thats under administration right
[10:58] <dystopianray> ppj: it doesn't but you can install it
[10:59] <dystopianray> Some_ux: /etc/sensors or similar iirc
[10:59] <ppj> dystopianray: i have no connection until wireless works
[10:59] <zaidar> boontoo, you can get to 2.6.20-15 though right?
[10:59] <rausb0> ppj: are you sure your wireless card is supported at all? which chipset is it?
[10:59] <boontoo> zaidar: yep now i have to do the whole alsa thing again coz i entirely purged it before to try to get it to work
[10:59] <ppj> it's showing up in device manager as Wireless USB-G network adapter, it's a linksys USB card
[11:00] <zaidar> boontoo, you have a cosmetic problem with grub then... don't worry
[11:00] <rausb0> ppj: which chipset? that is important
[11:00] <dystopianray> ppj: does 'iwconfig' show a wireless interface?
[11:00] <zaidar> boontoo, you can fix that easily
[11:00] <ppj> yeah iwconfig shows "rsbaud1"
[11:00] <Some_ux> dystopianray: /etc/sensors.conf ?
[11:00] <ppj> not sure if thats it or not
[11:00] <boontoo> zaidar: i installed a custom one ages ago and it didnt fit the screen it was some matrix headjob retardation and its just the worst
[11:01] <ppj> lo and sit0 are empty
[11:01] <rausb0> ppj: rsbaud1?
[11:01] <dystopianray> Some_ux: that's the one
[11:01] <zaidar> boontoo, just go to your desktop and hit alt+f2 then type  gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and get rid of the stanzas you don't want
[11:01] <ppj> rausb1
[11:01] <ppj> i mean
[11:01] <ppj> that must be it, i'm just not sure what to use to actually find any wireless networks
[11:02] <ppj> i swore i had a wifi program last time i installed ubuntu
[11:02] <rausb0> ppj: then it is a ralink chipset. network manager does not work with ralink chipsets.
[11:02] <ppj> sweet
[11:02] <ppj> whatn ow?
[11:02] <dystopianray> ppj: ndiswrapper should work with network-manager
[11:03] <rausb0> ppj: you must configure the card on the command line, using iwconfig and iwpriv commands
[11:03] <ppj> I see the lease on my router
[11:03] <boontoo> zaidar: found it splashimage (hd0,0)/boot/grub/images/splash.xpm.gz <-- *glares intensly*
[11:03] <ppj> k
[11:03] <rausb0> ppj: you mean you get an ip address from the router?
[11:04] <zaidar> boontoo, oh i thought you had extra kernel menu entries in GRUB .. just comment that line out to get rid of the splashimage
[11:04] <rausb0> ppj: then it must be working. can you ping the ip adress of the router?
[11:04] <boontoo> zaidar: ty for ur help i will probably need more help soon though hah
[11:04] <ppj> rausb0: naw its not pulling an ip but i see the mac address on the router, might have been the boot process of it
[11:05] <ppj> i mean it received a dhcp lease
[11:05] <ppj> but i'm sure if i checked the logs it'd be just a boot ack
[11:05] <rausb0> ppj: huh? a dhcp lease _is_ getting a ip address
[11:05] <zaidar> boontoo, i'll be idling here for a while..today is the first day of Ramadan so i have to eat before the dawn... just pm me to get my attention
[11:06] <ppj> rausb0: i don't feel like explaining the boot/arp process of nics
[11:06] <boontoo> zaidar: ty
[11:06] <ppj> the dhcp was granted on the router but the PC never recieved the information
[11:06] <ppj> it's just the boot process
[11:06] <zaidar> boontoo, you're quite welcome
[11:07] <rausb0> ppj: btw, what type of wireless encrytion do you use?
[11:07] <ppj> nada right now just trying to get this thrown up, i'm in a pretty remote area
[11:07] <ppj> the wireless doesn't have access  to much
[11:08] <rausb0> ppj: so no encryption?
[11:08] <[nrx] > yay. all working again :)
[11:08] <ppj> no encyption
[11:09] <Some_ux> the internet is a handy thing. someone has already done these changes for my M2NPV-VM MB.
[11:09] <Some_ux> in the /etc/sensors.conf file
[11:09] <rausb0> ppj: okay. i wonder why the interface is named "rausb1" (meaning the second ralink usb interface). is there no "rausb0"?
[11:09] <tom94130> Hi, please could some one help, I have  a problem with update manager wanting to update a package but the "from" and "to" versions are the same.  The update reports successful, but the update manager tells me the same update is still available.  What can I do to rectify this?
[11:10] <ppj> rausb0: hm, nope, just a "lo" "sit0" and "rausb"
[11:10] <dystopianray> Some_ux: so why do the sensor labels not match up?
[11:10] <ppj> was there a point of the install process i picked a root password or just user password?
[11:10] <exodos> is it possible to create partition with size of ~4.5TB
[11:10] <ppj> i always do this
[11:10] <[nrx] > what's the best window manager to use? what do people think is best?
[11:10] <dystopianray> ppj: only a user password, there is no root login with ubuntu by default
[11:11] <dystopianray> [nrx] : twm
[11:11] <ppj> [nrx] : personal pref
[11:11] <[nrx] > ppj, yeah. dystopianray, why twm?
[11:11] <dystopianray> exodos: doesn't the MBR have a 2TB limit?
[11:11] <dystopianray> [nrx] : twm is awesome
[11:11] <Some_ux> dystopianray: I meant that someone has already come accross my problem and edited the sensors.conf file, so i dont have to break my head which sensors does what
[11:11] <zaidar> [nrx] , fvwm is great for me
[11:11] <dystopianray> [nrx] : it increases productivity
[11:11] <ppj> my god i havent used linux in so long
[11:11] <dystopianray> Some_ux: so your sensors are labelled correctly?
[11:12] <[nrx] > what about desktops?
[11:12] <dystopianray> [nrx] : kde
[11:12] <[nrx] > yeah, i'm thinking of switching to KDE
[11:12] <ppj> rausb0: if I change the ESSID to my routers ssid, theoretically thats it?
[11:12] <[nrx] > not really a fan of gnome
[11:12] <ppj> (it's dhcp of course)
[11:12] <[nrx] > that's my next tast :)
[11:12] <[nrx] > task*
[11:13] <rausb0> ppj: should be sufficient
[11:13] <rausb0> ppj: iwconfig rausb1 essid YOUR_ESSID
[11:14] <weka> i need to get the cups web interface working local .. because as i understand it will not by default accept remote connections ( am i correct here ? ) so therefor need X .. how can i install X ?
[11:14] <ppj> yeah i did it, no change, making sure my ssid is what i think it is
[11:14] <Some_ux> dystopianray: i am trying to understand which lines i need to edit
[11:14] <rausb0> ppj: can you do   iwlist rausb1 scan ?
[11:14] <ppj> no results
[11:14] <ppj> hm
[11:14] <rausb0> ppj: that should scan for available APs
[11:15] <riaal> You ppl get a lot of ssh login atempts from stuff like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>etc.?
[11:15] <ppj> yeah
[11:15] <ppj> interesting
[11:15] <ppj> i figured i'd have a problem with a usb nic
[11:15] <[nrx] > riaal, everyone does
[11:15] <rausb0> ppj: can you burn a cd on the machine your are chatting from?
[11:16] <[nrx] > dystopianray, kdm or gdm?
[11:16] <dystopianray> riaal: if you weren't getting frequent ssh login attempts, that'd be a concern!
[11:16] <riaal> [nrx] , that sucks, are you safe with a good password?
[11:16] <dystopianray> [nrx] : kdm
[11:16] <[nrx] > riaal, always :)
[11:16] <[nrx] > dystopianray, k
[11:16] <ppj> i'd be pretty hard pressed to find another blank, but i've got external harddrives
[11:16] <dystopianray> ppj: use ndiswrapper
[11:17] <[nrx] > i remember messing around with ndiswrapper for me dwl g650+ card
[11:17] <[nrx] > what a nightmare it was at the time
[11:17] <dystopianray> the only hard part about ndiswrapper is finding a driver for windows
[11:17] <[nrx] > yeah
[11:17] <[nrx] > but getting the RIGHT one
[11:18] <dystopianray> riaal: what good is ps3 linux?
[11:18] <finn> when the dependencies say "GLib  >=2.8.0"    what ubuntu packet do I install?
[11:18] <[nrx] > i run WBEL on 2nd desktop and ubuntu on 2 laptops :)
[11:18] <dystopianray> finn: you should already have glib
[11:18] <dystopianray> [nrx] : WBEL?
[11:18] <riaal> dystopianray, lol, I have no ide at all :)
[11:18] <VSpike> Is there any way I can find which processes are using a mounted device or filesystem?
[11:18] <ppj> installing ndis now
[11:18] <Some_ux> dystopianray: apparently, the sensors.conf files does contain some of the correct labels, but they are commented out.
[11:18] <finn> how can I check what version I have?
[11:18] <dystopianray> Some_ux: ah i see
[11:18] <riaal> dystopianray, I was hoping xvid playback would be good but, naah
[11:19] <[nrx] > dystopianray, based on RHEL (White Box Enter.. blah)
[11:19] <dystopianray> riaal: there is only so much that can be done with the crippled video capabilities
[11:19] <[nrx] > lol
[11:19] <ppj> ndiswrapper looks fun
[11:19] <ppj> ...
[11:20] <Some_ux> dystopianray: the trick is figuring out what type of MB chipset you have, in my case, i believe it is "it8716-*" though the motherboard is ASUS M2NPV-VM
[11:20] <[nrx] > it's easy
[11:20] <[nrx] > just get the right win driver :)
[11:20] <ppj> think i've got the driver cd for xp
[11:20] <dystopianray> Some_ux: sensors will tell you the chip it is reading from
[11:20] <ppj> that'll do right
[11:20] <rausb0> ppj: if you use ndiswrapper, you have to blacklist the ralink drivers first, so they do not get in the way
[11:20] <riaal> dystopianray, yeh, It works great, just a bit slow..  Came with Vista.
[11:22] <[nrx] > it's already BSOD'd. Last night.
[11:22] <Tuzlak> vista == 0
[11:22] <TeePOG> you kept Vista for more than 24 hours?
[11:22] <[nrx] > i know, I shouldn't swear in here
[11:22] <VSpike> heh I love the way mkfs doesn't do any "are you sure?" prompting... that's so linux
[11:22] <[nrx] > it's my gf's laptop for her uni :P
[11:22] <Jork> Vista sucks
[11:22] <[nrx] > VSpike, lol
[11:22] <VSpike> My computer trusts me :)
[11:23] <dystopianray> riaal: yes, linux runs under a hypervisor with crippled hardware access
[11:23] <dystopianray> riaal: linux can't directly touch the ps3 hardware, it's at the mercy of sony
[11:23] <riaal> dystopianray, that sucks, why would they do that?  It looks pretty and has fancy stuff.
[11:24] <ogamiitto> sound has dissapeared from one boot to another, lspci shows the card, sound works booting with ubuntu 7.04 cd, any help?
[11:24] <tom94130> can any one help with a problem with update manager
[11:25] <dystopianray> riaal: they don't want people making games for ps3 linux
[11:25] <ppj> sweet, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177836&highlight=xubuntu+wusb54g
[11:25] <ppj> thats me
[11:25] <riaal> dystopianray, lol, insain
[11:25] <Sajes> dystopianray, Why not? Wouldn't that make Sony more money?
[11:26] <dystopianray> Sajes: yeah they'll get plenty of money from people playing all the free games and emulators :)
[11:26] <VSpike> Are there any good guides to different approaches on how to organise your personal data in linux, and how to organise disks and partitions?
[11:26] <dystopianray> Sajes: every ps3 is sold at a loss, they only make profit on software
[11:26] <Sajes> They could do what Bill does. PlayLive.
[11:26] <Sajes> Download the games for $50 a year.
[11:26] <rausb0> ppj: that's an earlier revision of that stick, using prism usb chipset. yours has ralink.
[11:27] <dystopianray> you can buy games from the xbox marketplace
[11:27] <rausb0> ppj: you know, hardware manufacturers keep changing chipsets without renaming the wlan sticks
[11:27] <ppj> rausb0: i assumed the process was the same just different driver.. no?
[11:27] <rausb0> ppj: true
[11:28] <rausb0> ppj: just wanted to point out that "Linksys WUSB54G" is not always the same hardware
[11:28] <ppj> yeah i've got v4
[11:28] <gordonjcp> what package do I need to get the Gimp to load photoshop PSDs?
[11:29] <hangthedj> whats the equivalent to kdialog for gnome?
[11:29] <gordonjcp> hangthedj: gmessage?
[11:29] <gordonjcp> hangthedj: something that pops up a dialogue box from a shell script?
[11:30] <hangthedj> gordonjcp, yes, so gmessage?
[11:30] <boontoo> brb
[11:30] <hangthedj> gordonjcp, thanks
[11:32] <finn> ./waf configure && ./waf && ./waf install             gtk+-2.0 is required
[11:32] <finn> what packet will I need to install to solve that?
[11:32] <Sajes> gtk+-2.0?
[11:33] <finn> apt-cache search gtk+-2.0  returns nothing
[11:33] <gordonjcp> finn: you want one of the -dev packages anyway
[11:34] <finn> libgtk2.0-dev  ?
[11:34] <Sajes> It's on the Ubuntu install disc.  Night everyone.
[11:36] <finn> night
[11:37] <finn> aw come on
[11:37] <finn> now it wants xmms2-client even though I have it installed
[11:37] <hangthedj> what are you trying to install?
[11:38] <clip> can sb. help me out with phpmotion on my linux server, i only get a blank screen...
[11:38] <finn> a client for xmms2
[11:38] <gordonjcp> finn: have you got xmms2-client-dev installed?
[11:38] <gordonjcp> finn: remember, just because you have a package installed it doesn't mean you have its development headers installed
[11:38] <hangthedj> libxmmsclient++-dev libxmmsclient-dev
[11:38] <finn> would that be xmms2-devel.git ?
[11:39] <lamer11896763017> hi I have just installed ubuntu server for the first time. How do I enable a root account so I can su?
[11:39] <hangthedj> or xmms2-dev
[11:39] <rockets> lamer11896763017, dont do that
[11:39] <rockets> lamer11896763017, just do sudo -i
[11:39] <lamer11896763017> why?
[11:39] <rockets> lamer11896763017, because its more secure not to have a root password
[11:39] <lamer11896763017> I've used a root account for years without any issues,
[11:39] <rockets> everybody tries to hack root.
[11:39] <rockets> lamer11896763017, you can do whatever you want. its still a bad idea.
[11:39] <rockets> passwd root
[11:39] <lamer11896763017> yeah but no one has access to it
[11:40] <rockets> its just a bad habit to get into
[11:40] <hangthedj> sudo passwd
[11:40] <faileas> well
[11:40] <faileas> if you need 'su' you can sudo su i suppose?
[11:40] <hangthedj> just make your password big
[11:40] <Gyoza> Problem: mouse pointer freezes for a second and audio stutters.  Both seem to happen at the same time.
[11:40] <rockets> or you can just do sudo -i or sudo -s
[11:40] <rockets> Gyoza, time for a new computer?
[11:41] <lamer11896763017> ah great thanks
[11:41] <lamer11896763017> sanity at last
[11:41] <rockets> or lack therof.
[11:41] <Gyoza> rockets, my wife got the new computer.
[11:41] <Gyoza> She needed the extra power just to boot Vista.
[11:41] <lamer11896763017> well, if it's a server on my home local network behind 2 firewalls I think the risk is minimal
[11:41] <rockets> screw vista
[11:41] <Gyoza> rockets, then I need help with the problem.  heh
[11:41] <rockets> And I don't mean that in a screw window sort of way. When I run windows I run XP
[11:42] <Gyoza> This laptop is running very well with Ubuntu. Better than XP was running.
[11:42] <sztj> nihao
[11:42] <lamer11896763017> another question - I have 2 SATA disks in the server. How do I set these up? Is there any built in tools, or do I need to manually partition, mkfs and update mount info etc
[11:42] <Gyoza> Other than the mouse pointer and audio stutter.
[11:43] <Some_ux> ok, typically, which is higher ? the cpu temperature or the MB
[11:43] <Gyoza> I guess I must Google instead. heh
[11:43] <rockets> lamer11896763017, the installer lets you partiton but if you've already installed, then yes you need to do cfdisk and mkfs and all that.
[11:43] <Moniker42> hey, can anyone think of a reason why a sata drive would work in ubuntu but not be detected by the bios and break the windows xp cd?
[11:43] <rockets> lamer11896763017, you COULD install X and use a gui tool.
[11:43] <rockets> but why.
[11:43] <lamer11896763017> sure ok thx
[11:43] <VSpike> Some_ux: depends what you mean by mb temp
[11:44] <Some_ux> well, i have two readings, one is 27 the other is 42
[11:44] <[nrx] > is there an applet for kde/kdm the same as the one for gnome to show network activity/status/monitor? to sit in the panel?
[11:45] <Blauhaut> is there a tiny calculator for ubuntu ?
[11:45] <Moniker42> can anyone think of a reason why a sata drive would work in ubuntu but not be detected by the bios and break the windows xp cd?
[11:45] <Moniker42> Blauhaut, apps>>accessories>>calculator
[11:45] <ompaul> Blauhaut, xcalc is small
[11:46] <Moniker42> it's at the top left of the screen
[11:46] <frogzoo> Blauhaut: bc is cli
[11:46] <ari_stress> hi guys
[11:46] <ari_stress> is cpanel can be installed on ubuntu?
[11:46] <[nrx] > not in KDE/KDM it's not
[11:46] <VSpike> Some_ux: my CPU is 25C, drives 28C to 38C depending on age, PWM temp 42C, System (ambient case) 32C
[11:46] <lamer11896763017> I'm setting up a server to share files basically, big video files. What would anyone suggest to do that? NFS? sshfs? samba? something else?
[11:46] <steel_lady> I am trying to work but the system behaves crappy, freezing a lot and 'thinking'. How can I discover whiich process makes problems or if I am short on RAM?
[11:47] <VSpike> Some_ux: this board doesn't measure NB or chipset temperature, but on my last board it was usually 30-40C depending on how much I overclocked it :)
[11:47] <[nrx] > anyone? :)
[11:47] <Moniker42> !ram > steel_lady
[11:47] <ompaul> ari_stress, http://www.cpanel.net/products/cPanelandWHM/linux/sys_requirements.htm says no
[11:47] <VSpike> Some_ux: nothing overclocked here atm
[11:47] <VSpike> Blauhaut: tiny in what sense? qalc from command line is great
[11:48] <Some_ux> No overclocking here, maybe underclocking as i use CoolNquiet
[11:48] <ari_stress> thanks ompaul
[11:48] <VSpike> Some_ux: same here
[11:48] <Blauhaut> ehe ok i got what i am looking for t
[11:48] <steel_lady> ok Moniker, I will see
[11:48] <VSpike> [nrx] : system guard will do it
[11:51] <mysticalzero> Hi, sometimes i got an error message "I/O error" when trying to browse my secondary harddisk. Does this mean that my harddisk is going to fail soon? Can anyone enlighten me about this?
[11:51] <sauvin> Depends on the nature of the error :\
[11:51] <gordonjcp> mysticalzero: could be a lot of things
[11:51] <[nrx] > VSpike, is there nothing that comes natively with KDE?
[11:51] <ybite><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:51] <sauvin> Is the secondary external?
[11:51] <[nrx] > I liked the one I had with gnome
[11:51] <gordonjcp> mysticalzero: dmesg might have some messages
[11:52] <mysticalzero> nope, it is an internal sata hdd.
[11:52] <mysticalzero> This is what i got: end_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 106451224
[11:52] <jonnymac> how can I get my integrated webcam working, please?
[11:53] <VSpike> [nrx] : I think system guard is part of kde.  Actually I don't like it much, but there's nothing else.  KDE is really weak in this area.  There's lots of stuff to go on the desktop like gkrellm and superkaramba widgets, but i never see the point of those.  The only time I see my desktop is after I login
[11:53] <zetheroo> install a printer....
[11:53] <VSpike> [nrx] : for network monitoring, someone ported a classic wxwindows widget to kde but i forget what the name was
[11:54] <jonnymac> and for setting up the mail thing, what kind of a server is google?
[11:54] <clip> how do i change my cgi-bin directory? mine is somehow in a strange place....
[11:55] <zetheroo> can someone help me install a printer?
[11:55] <h1st0> !apache | clip
[11:55] <Ubotu> clip: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:55] <h1st0> zetheroo: what type of printer?
[11:55] <zetheroo> FujiXerox DocuPrint 203A
[11:55] <h1st0> zetheroo: did you try System > administration > Printing?
[11:55] <[nrx] > VSpike, thanks
[11:56] <zetheroo> yes... does nto find it
[11:56] <h1st0> !printer | zetheroo
[11:56] <h1st0> check out the links from Ubotu
[11:56] <zetheroo> huh?
[11:56] <zetheroo> what is !printer?
[11:57] <Myrtti> !cups
[11:57] <Ubotu> zetheroo: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:57] <Ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:57] <Myrtti> doh
[11:57] <Myrtti> he's lagging
[11:57] <h1st0> Myrtti: it was just being slow
[11:57] <zetheroo> oh no man... I don't want to have to read all that
[11:58] <nalpha> Anyone already try to access linksys wvc200 from firefox in ubuntu?
[11:59] <ppj> why does gedit not work while root
[11:59] <h1st0> zetheroo: well I don't have your specific printer so if you would check the hardwaresupportcomponentsprinters link it will show you if your hardware works
[11:59] <h1st0> ppj: use gksu
[11:59] <ppj> thank you
[12:00] <ppj> that was annoying
[12:00] <h1st0> ppj: yeah use gksu for any GUI apps that you need sudo for.
[12:00] <pequatre> hey guys. lil problem: i start compiz with "compiz --replace" but how do you fall back to classic metacity, i.e. quit compiz ? thx.
[12:00] <menisk> Can someone help me with installing the Brand new FGLRX drivers(8.41.7)? They are chucking a mental at me and not saying why.
[12:00] <h1st0> !ati | menisk
[12:00] <Ubotu> menisk: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:00] <h1st0> pequatre: metacity --replace
[12:00] <VSpike> zetheroo: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=FujiXerox-Docuprint_203A
[12:01] <pequatre> h1st0, thx :)
[12:01] <h1st0> pequatre: np
[12:01] <VSpike> zetheroo: listed as a paperweight, I'm afraid
[12:01] <zetheroo> oh no
[12:01] <menisk> h1st0, that is instructions for 8.34.8 old ones.
[12:01] <h1st0> zetheroo: you can go get a printer for free with rebates at bestbuy.
[12:01] <jonnymac> how safe is ubuntu from hackers, spyware and viruses
[12:01] <h1st0> zetheroo: its cheaper than by new cartridges to get a new printer usually
[12:01] <menisk> h1st0, I need help with 8.41.7
[12:02] <h1st0> jonnymac: very safe
[12:02] <jonnymac> may I ask why?
[12:02] <faileas> jonnymac: as with any OS, as safe as the user makes it
[12:02] <visioncig> hehe
[12:02] <h1st0> !security | jonnymac
[12:02] <Ubotu> jonnymac: If you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server
[12:03] <faileas> if you run all the time as root, don't update, and have unessary services running, any OS can be insecure ;)
[12:03] <jonnymac> I mean I've been on ubuntu for three days and it's brilliant, I've found everything I need to use it better, quicker and safer than Windows
[12:03] <jonnymac> And I know nothing about computers
[12:03] <faileas> ;)
[12:03] <VSpike> jonnymac: you're in the best position there... trying to unlearn windows and learn linux is hard work :)
[12:04] <faileas> naw
[12:04] <kont_> xchat no icon..i can't see
[12:04] <faileas> linux isn't that hard ;)
[12:04] <jonnymac> all I need to do now is get my integrated webcam working
[12:04] <VSpike> faileas: it isn't, but unlearning years of something else is
[12:04] <ppj> yeah.. it's not hard, it's just different
[12:04] <magnetron> jonnymac: because it has less bugs. the main threat to computers is not hackers, but malfunction. article in NY times on this subject: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/12/technology/techspecial/12threat.html?_r=1&ref=technology&oref=slogin
[12:04] <jonnymac> ty
[12:04] <h1st0> !webcam | jonnymac
[12:04] <Ubotu> jonnymac: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:05] <jonnymac> !webcam??
[12:05] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webcam?? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <x_> hi everyone   i need some help... during the update i have this erroe message... what's wrong ????:
[12:05] <h1st0> jonnymac: the links from the bot ubotu may be of interest
[12:05] <h1st0> x_: what update?
[12:05] <magnetron> read the messages from Ubotu
[12:05] <snooo> there is a media centre type application which opens full screen and acts a little like MythTV, but without the ability to record TV broadcasts. I can't remember the name, would anyone here remember it?
[12:05] <x_> ubuntu updates
[12:05] <jonnymac> and that ubotu chap is the technological equivalent of Ibid!!
[12:05] <gabbarinho> hello
[12:05] <x_> Could not initialize the package information
[12:05] <x_> A unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[12:05] <x_> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[12:05] <x_> 'E:Dynamic MMap ran out of room, E:Error occurred while processing sylpheed (NewVersion1), E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dk.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_feisty_universe_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[12:06] <faileas>  VSpike: dos, win 95, 98, ME, XP. I use linux on and off for the past maybe 2 years. the learning curve is actually quite shallow, IMO, and ubuntu and most other commercialish distros kinda don't have the madness of editing config files hidden somewhere for everything
[12:06] <h1st0> snooo: any mpeg2 player can open your capture card
[12:06] <j4ck> gk
[12:06] <magnetron> !paste | x_
[12:06] <Ubotu> x_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:06] <faileas> x_ use a pastebin for dog's sake.
[12:06] <faileas> *god
[12:06] <x_> i did
[12:06] <gabbarinho> question for mac and ubuntu users - how similar are beryl and expose?
[12:06] <x_> what the hell is wrong with my laptop??
[12:06] <gabbarinho> this is basically a "can i sell my mac" question :)
[12:07] <faileas> x_: no. you pasted it on channel
[12:07] <h1st0> x_: no you need to post the output on pastebin not in the channel  look at the website from ubotu
[12:07] <x_> can u tel me how y i can do it_!
[12:07] <amorphous__> could someone do me a favour here?... try to connect to www.pandora.com. I can't get into it & want to know if it's down..
[12:08] <faileas> x_: scroll up. read what Ubotu said.
[12:08] <h1st0> x_: highlight the output go to the website from Ubotu and paste it there instead of in the channel.  Then give us a link for the pastebin
[12:08] <ppj> heh, i take it if ndiswrapper -l says "driver installed // wusb54g invalid driver!" its bad
[12:08] <x_> ooook
[12:08] <x_> thaks:-)
[12:09] <ali1234> i copied my whole ubuntu install to another HD using "cp -a" ... everything works except cadsoft eagle, which i was previously using in freeware mode. now it asks me for a licence key when i run it... any ideas?
[12:09] <wiz> can someone point me where's privacy lists controls in gajim?..
[12:09] <faileas> amorphous__: ir seeps slow as molasses
[12:10] <faileas> ...
[12:10] <h1st0> ali1234: cp -a you probably didn't get everything
[12:10] <faileas> amorphous__: its taking VERY long to load
[12:11] <medfly> can i make a terminal work with ISO-8859-8 and make it show a language as right to left?
[12:11] <h1st0> ali1234: do you still have the original data?
[12:11] <ali1234> h1st0: yeah but the hard drive is dying :)
[12:11] <medfly> basically: can i read / write hebrew on terminal? :P
[12:12] <ompaul> medfly, yes, join #ubuntu-il for more instructions :)
[12:12] <brian_> brian_fish
[12:12] <ompaul> !il
[12:12] <Ubotu>         :
[12:12] <Ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[12:12] <faileas> its a pretty language ;p
[12:12] <gordonjcp> funky
[12:12] <h1st0> ali1234: you should really do someting like find . -depth -print0 | sudo cpio --null --sparse -pvd /new/hardrive
[12:12] <medfly> ompaul, its just ive been to many places and people dont tend to bother with it, there are other right to left languages with odd letters..
[12:13] <ompaul> the trouble that caused me to get in there rtl and lrt mixed
[12:13] <gordonjcp> !gd
[12:13] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <faileas> gordonjcp: still got the old sun machine we talked about a while back? ;p
[12:13] <gordonjcp> I'm guessing there isn't a Gaelic-language Ubuntu channel
[12:13] <amorphous__> faileas
[12:13] <gordonjcp> faileas: how many do you want?
[12:13] <amorphous__> faileas - that coincided perfectly with me removing cookies... thought I'd broke it (Heheheh...)
[12:13] <faileas> gordonjcp: one?
[12:13] <ompaul> gordonjcp, #ubuntu-ie may be there
[12:13] <ali1234> h1st0: i did "mount -o bind / /mnt/roottmp" first in order to not copy /dev/ /proc/ and such...
[12:14] <Error443> Hello, is there a Mac OS8 emulator for Feisty?
[12:14] <gordonjcp> ompaul: Irish Gaelic is sort of similar, I suppose
[12:14] <faileas> gordonjcp: i assume it works with a standard monitor/keyboard. or its part of it?
[12:14] <gordonjcp> faileas: think the ultra does, don't know about the earlier ones
[12:14] <faileas> Error443: i'd take a look at minivmac or basalisk. you'd need a copy of OS8 and a rom though
[12:14] <ompaul> gordonjcp, they might manage it
[12:15] <faileas> gordonjcp: ;)
[12:15] <dimitrius> does anybody here know how to install the driver of the ATI Radeon x1950? i've tried Envy, and i've also followed the instructions on the forums, but they don't seem to work.
[12:15] <gordonjcp> !envy | dimitrius
[12:15] <Ubotu> dimitrius: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:15] <h1st0> ali1234: ahh
[12:15] <Error443> Faileas, i have a copy of OS8, but what do you mean with the rom?hardware?
[12:15] <faileas> i'll probably get back to you when i get back and get internet access again. I'm very interested tho
[12:15] <faileas> Error443: a rom dump
[12:15] <h1st0> ali1234: hrm.. I have no idea why it would be asking for a key then.
[12:16] <dimitrius> I've used the restricted drivers which just leave me in just as bad as shape as Envy did.
[12:16] <faileas> Error443: minivmac has one, but it might be an older model
[12:16] <Error443> Oke tnx, ill try it
[12:16] <jonathan_> hello all, I need to open office 2007 files. docx. but, how to open it... my open office or abiword can't recognize those files
[12:16] <h1st0> ali1234: the command i gave wouldn't work well nvm.
[12:16] <gordonjcp> Error443: most Mac emulators rely on having a ROM image from a "real" Mac, which is copyrighted software
[12:17] <medfly> !ar
[12:17] <medfly> oh well. is there a arabic ubuntu channel? :-)
[12:17] <[nrx] > lol
[12:17] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <ali1234> h1st0: cheers anyway
[12:17] <Some_ux> blah, after tinkering with the thing for an hour i think i got the sensors.conf to work properly
[12:17] <jonnymac> I had 2007 office problem yesterday
[12:17] <ompaul> !sa
[12:17] <Ubotu> For the Arabic language or Saudi Arabia you are invited to join     #ubuntu-sa
[12:17] <jonnymac> It's not compatible with anything, you need to save your docs in 'compatibility mode'
[12:18] <faileas> Error443: http://www.nothickmanuals.info/doku.php?id=minivmac is worth checking out. its a howto for windows, but a lot of the stuff there may be of use
[12:18] <jonnymac> didja get that jonathan?
[12:18] <jonathan_> hello all, I need to open office 2007 files. docx. but, how to open it... my open office or abiword can't recognize those files
[12:18] <medfly> eek, that one is even smaller :-)
[12:18] <Some_ux> it appears the Motherboard is indeed hotter than the CPU
[12:18] <jonnymac> yeah you need to save your files in compatibility mode
[12:18] <Error443> ;) mac on a stick...
[12:18] <faileas> Error443: windows howto ;p
[12:18] <jonnymac> if you're on linux it's much easier to use open office
[12:18] <ali1234> Some_ux: my motherboard has the cpu and mb sensors backwards, i actually tested it with a speed controlled cpu fan
[12:18] <faileas> hmm no, mac howto
[12:19] <jonnymac> you can then send via email in pdf format
[12:19] <jonnymac> howto?
[12:19] <jonathan_> oh my
[12:19] <ompaul> medfly, what is the actual question you have?
[12:19] <jonathan_> confused now...
[12:19] <jonnymac> I've Im'd you
[12:19] <faileas> Error443: however you could use the tools there to dump a rom. I'd recommend basalisk over Maconastick though
[12:19] <Some_ux> ali234: i think the readings are correct as the CPU contains a diode and the lower reading is from the diode
[12:20] <faileas> who is you?
[12:20] <ompaul> jonathan_, get them sent to you in ODF / the old word format
[12:20] <medfly> ompaul, i wanna know how i can properly read/write a language like hebrew (different letters, different direction (right to left)) on terminal
[12:20] <jonathan_> at?
[12:20] <jonathan_> I need to open office 2007 first?
[12:20] <jonathan_> that's my friend doc
[12:20] <faileas> office2007=docx
[12:20] <ali1234> Some_ux: well, all i know is that the motherboard temp reading would fluctuate with cpu fan speed, and was higher than the reported cpu temp
[12:21] <faileas> i'm fairly certain that OOo opens it readonly
[12:21] <ali1234> Some_ux: i think in the bios screen they were the right way around though
[12:21] <jonnymac> yeah, 2007 sucks
[12:21] <ompaul> jonathan_, tell them to use open formats - not closed up ones and we don't do an opening of them
[12:21] <jonathan_> I need to open those doc for business purposes immediately
[12:21] <Omar_> get that microsoft doxcx viewer
[12:21] <jonathan_> ugh... that's the top prob at my life...
[12:21] <jonathan_> damn office2007
[12:22] <ompaul> jonathan_, well we don't have a solution for it, do what I do even to MS employees we don't support that format please resend thank you
[12:22] <Alloosh> hi, how do I connect to my computer from other computers?
[12:22] <Omar_> btw i just moved to ubuntu and twice i stopped bootings (ubuntu logo shows up and load bar stops at 10% with hd idiling)
[12:23] <ompaul> !bootoptions | Omar_
[12:23] <Ubotu> Omar_: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[12:23] <jonathan_> that's ok
[12:23] <jonathan_> I hope the next open office or abiword can open docx format
[12:23] <h1st0> jonathan_: http://geekhacks.blogspot.com/2007/05/working-with-word-2007-documentsdocx-in.html
[12:24] <Omar_> cool
[12:24] <Omar_> i just press esc? for options
[12:25] <jonathan_> thanks , histo
[12:26] <steel_lady> a stupid easy question, I install a program, how do I find it to run it?
[12:26] <Myrtti> depends on the program
[12:26] <[nrx] > depends on the program but it'll usually tell you in the INSTALL or README file
[12:27] <steel_lady> XView
[12:27] <steel_lady> synaptic doesn't tell anything
[12:27] <Myrtti> press alt-f2 and type the name of the software on the little box
[12:27] <Some_ux> is there a proper module for lm-sensors in webmin ?
[12:27] <steel_lady> ok, let's see
[12:27] <ali1234> steel_lady: in synaptic, look at the package properties, then the "installed files" tab
[12:28] <[nrx] > guys, in gnome i could use the softkeys on the laptop to change the volume.. in KDE, it doesn't work. any ideas?
[12:29] <[nrx] > anyone? :)
[12:29] <ali1234> [nrx] : how did you get them working in gnome? ;) (i think it depends on laptop tbh)
[12:29] <wiz> [nrx] , check the KDE hotkeys setting (=
[12:29] <[nrx] > ali1234, they just worked straight off :)
[12:29] <Some_ux> anyone here use webmin ?
[12:30] <[nrx] > wiz, where abouts?
[12:30] <wiz> explore main menu
[12:30] <[nrx] > ok
[12:31] <jonnymac> any ideas on the best total beginners guide to ubuntu i.e. integrated webcam installation, howto install third party apps, &c? I'm not only new to ubuntu but fairly idiotic once people start talking about command lines and strings of code
[12:31] <ubuntu> hey
[12:31] <ari_stress> hey ubuntu
[12:31] <jonnymac> ciao ubuntu
[12:31] <ari_stress> nice nickname!
[12:31] <ubuntu> could someone quickly give me a command line to mount an ntfs file system with write access from live cd
[12:32] <wiz> in newer versions you don't need CL
[12:32] <wiz> just use nautilus
[12:32] <ubuntu> i need write access though
[12:32] <ari_stress> ubuntu: mount theserver:/the/directory /mnt
[12:32] <ubuntu> ari_stress, that doesnt give me write access
[12:32] <wiz> i've writen a bunch of files into ntfs-formatted usb drive and only noticed it on unmounting
[12:32] <stjepan> there's a right triangle. one cathetus is 2.3, the second is 1. I need the angles. (it's very urgent)
[12:32] <Moniker42> can anyone think of a reason why a sata drive would work in ubuntu but not be detected by the bios and break the windows xp cd?
[12:32] <ompaul> !ntfs | ubuntu
[12:32] <Ubotu> ubuntu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:32] <jonnymac> so anybody know f a beginners guide? Like the total idiots guide to ubuntu?
[12:33] <ari_stress> ubuntu: the write access is determined from the server
[12:33] <ubuntu> cheers ompaul
[12:33] <Moniker42> jonnymac, i think there are some books if you search Waterstone's.com or maybe amazon...
[12:33] <ompaul> jonnymac, na, we do have basic manuals though, if you check out help.ubuntu.com
[12:33] <frogzoo> any show stoppers upgrading from dapper to edgy? I have this machine running, I really don't want to have to do a full install
[12:34] <Moniker42> jonnymac, there are more than enough resources online but there is paper literature if you really want it :)
[12:34] <ari_stress> ompaul: how about for ubuntu server guide? i'm from redhat family, need familiarization with debian based
[12:34] <jonnymac> aha, thanks ompaul, I think that's the second time you've come to my rescue:-*
[12:34] <jonnymac> I was thinking more along the lines of internet-type stuff
[12:34] <ompaul> ari_stress, there is such a thing on that help.ubuntu.com have a poke around there
[12:34] <jonnymac> thank'ee Moniker
[12:34] <Moniker42> http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/displayProductDetails.do?sku=5790679
[12:35] <ari_stress> ok ompaul
[12:35] <Moniker42> i've heard that's good ^
[12:35] <Moniker42> and i'm sure you can find a pdf somewhere if you look hard enough ;)
[12:35] <jonnymac> 24 pounds? Bloody hell that a bit steep innit?
[12:35] <ppj> im failing at ndiswrapper 101
[12:35] <clip> need help with phpmotion on ubuntu server, i always get a blank screen?!
[12:36] <ari_stress> clip: is there any error in /var/log/apache2/error_log?
[12:37] <b33r> Do I need a 64 bit version of ubuntu with Intel E6750 CPU?
[12:37] <aivalli> hi folks
[12:37] <aivalli> I am running ntop
[12:38] <aivalli> I am getting this in my log http://pastebin.com/d194bb42e
[12:38] <aivalli> I think its with the permisions, any hints on what permissions to fix ?
[12:39] <frogzoo> aivalli: what is running rrdtool? cactus? mrtg?
[12:39] <clip> ari_stress: no error
[12:40] <ari_stress> clip: i'm stumpped. usually it will tell if there's any error, such as pear module is not installed, etc
[12:41] <frogzoo> aivalli: ls -ld /var/lib/ntop/rrd/interfaces/eth0
[12:41] <jah> hi uhrm, is there any way to use external monitor (on laptop) if I use nvidia drivers in ubuntu?
[12:41] <clip> ari_stress: you know phpmotion?
[12:41] <jah> i cant find any app :(
[12:41] <jonathan_> hm... it seems there is no significant changes at ubuntu 7.10 gusty
[12:41] <jonathan_> is that true?
[12:42] <jah> is there anything particular for using external monitors on a laptop?
[12:42] <Nighthawk420> jonathan its still not stable
[12:42] <ari_stress> clip: no
[12:43] <jah> so no one knows:[
[12:44] <frogzoo> jonathan_: for gutsy discussion, -> #ubuntu+1
[12:44] <aivalli> frogzoo: ntop is running rrdtool coz that was a dependency when I installed it
[12:44] <jonathan_> :(
[12:44] <Rick__> hi
[12:45] <Rick__> i have read on the net that the ACER TM 6292 works on linux
[12:45] <ppj> oh my god
[12:45] <ppj> i got it
[12:45] <Rick__> would like to know if does the batt meter work and the power saving and max performance work as well
[12:45] <madgoat> hi I'm getting a ton of errors when reading DVDs on my new install. I get "hdb: command error: status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error }" and "hdb:command error: error=0x50 {LastFailedSense=0x05}". Any idea how I can fix this?
[12:45] <Rick__> on my previous laptop that could not work :(
[12:46] <frogzoo> aivalli: ls -ld /var/lib/ntop/rrd/interfaces/eth0
[12:46] <xenouser> Hey, I'm having problems installing Lit Converter and I was wondering if anybody could lend me their knowlege
[12:47] <Rick__> also i would be partitioning my hd and create a shared partition between my windows and linux
[12:47] <Rick__> which would be the best
[12:47] <Rick__> the partition as fat / ntfs ?
[12:47] <faileas> Rick__: i'd personally suggest FAT32
[12:47] <xenouser> ntfs, i think. don't take my word for it though.
[12:47] <xenouser> Ah.. see.
[12:48] <ppj> there are very few reasons you would want FAT32 over NTfs
[12:48] <faileas> NTFS is alright with NTFS3g
[12:48] <xenouser> Anyway, does anybody know how to install Lit Converter?
[12:48] <Rick__> ic.. i tht so .. tooo
[12:48] <faileas> fat32 is the kitchen sink FS
[12:48] <ppj> Not to mention FAT32 has, what, a 4gb max file system size?
[12:48] <faileas> eh
[12:48] <ppj> Or 8gb, I forget
[12:48] <faileas> 4gb
[12:48] <Rick__> using the winblows partition magic.. it works on bigger sizes
[12:48] <Rick__> got a 80gb fat32 ext hd :)
[12:48] <aivalli> frogzoo: ls -ld fixed it ! Thanks
[12:48] <faileas> Rick__: not disk size, file size
[12:48] <aivalli> bye
[12:49] <steel_lady> which repository I have to enable to install this program: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphics/XV-409.shtml
[12:49] <Rick__> oh...
[12:49] <Rick__> lol..
[12:49] <ppj> yeah
[12:49] <ppj> Im completely shocked I got my wireless working
[12:49] <faileas> lol
[12:49] <ppj> I saw the adapter pop onto my router and got lock jawed
[12:49] <faileas> what adaptor?
[12:49] <ppj> a ralink USB (wusb54gv4)
[12:50] <xenouser> Does anybody have knowlege about working with .lit files in Ubuntu?
[12:50] <ppj> im shocked
[12:50] <ppj> might try to use it in fbsd now
[12:50] <ppj> I am using ndiswrapper though
[12:50] <ari_stress> can i install centos on ubuntu xen?
[12:50] <Rick__> thanx for ur advise...
[12:50] <xenouser> IDK
[12:51] <ari_stress> !xen
[12:51] <Ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ari_stress: yes you can
[12:52] <abhibera> which is the best laptop i can buy for running ubuntu?
[12:52] <abhibera> everything should work with a few tweaks
[12:52] <abhibera> i want to buy a laptop
[12:52] <abhibera> but i hear cooling under ubuntu is an issue
[12:52] <xenouser> Me too. Anybody know how to install ConvertLit or Lit Converter on Ubuntu?
[12:52] <xenouser> I've googled the subject many a time, to no avail.
[12:53] <mynyml> abhibera: well there's the Dell ubuntu laptop ...
[12:53] <abhibera> mynyml: i live in india
[12:53] <mynyml> abhibera: its not the cheapest though, but it's garanteed to work
[12:53] <mynyml> oh
[12:53] <abhibera> mynyml: they don't sell ubuntu dell here
[12:53] <abhibera> mynyml: it's so sucky that i have to buy Windoze along with my laptop
[12:53] <mynyml> abhibera: did you check out the ubuntu pages about laptop support?
[12:53] <ppj> I'm using Ubuntu on a 1995 Compaq Armada M700 right now, I think you're fine with just about any laptop.
[12:54] <ppj> It worked great on my macbook and lenovo x60 too
[12:54] <wiz> abhibera, i have dell 6400 with c2d 7200. windows runs it sun-hot, while ubuntu is silent & cool
[12:54] <abhibera> mynyml: i think someone should file a suit with all these h/w manufacturers
[12:54] <mynyml> i agree. i have a no-name from china
[12:54] <xenouser> I need a Microsoft Reader substitute for linux.
[12:54] <wiz> less (8
[12:54] <xenouser> Anybody know of any easily attainable ones?
[12:54] <abhibera> wiz: how did u manage to do that? i was thinking Vostro 1400
[12:55] <ppj> I thought Vostros would be nice until I read the reviews
[12:55] <ppj> wasnt impressed
[12:55] <abhibera> wiz: i was reading it has cooling issues on Ubuntu :(
[12:55] <abhibera> wiz: it's my first laptop so r there utils to control fan speed etc?
[12:55] <wiz> did not do anything at all - was getting better battery life than windowz from start
[12:55] <wiz> it's automatical i think
[12:55] <ppj> abhibera: there are cpu idling programs
[12:56] <steel_lady> anybody knows well the distribution of repositories?
[12:56] <ppj> I've got 4 laptops, the automatic fan controlling is fine
[12:56] <ppj> I never touch them
[12:56] <wiz> i just control cpu power via gnome applet
[12:56] <ppj> yeah you can scale down cpu
[12:56] <wiz> and consulting with 'powertop'
[12:56] <ppj> for battery etc
[12:56] <abhibera> wiz ppj: and which one u think is better? nvidia 8400GS or Intel X3100?
[12:56] <ppj> nvidia
[12:56] <wiz> powertop is really great tool for travelers
[12:56] <ppj> the intel is probably shared ram
[12:56] <Irreducibilis> Intel always sucks for gpu
[12:56] <ppj> you want dedicated ram
[12:57] <Irreducibilis> But the 8400GS is also crap
[12:57] <Irreducibilis> Get at least an 8500
[12:57] <madgoat> hi I'm getting a ton of errors when reading DVDs on my new install. I get "hdb: command error: status=0x51 {DriveReady SeekComplete Error }" and "hdb:command error: error=0x50 {LastFailedSense=0x05}". Any idea how I can fix this?
[12:57] <ppj> i think ive got an 8600
[12:57] <ppj> i forget
[12:57] <xenouser> Thanks for all the help... hahahahahahahaha
[12:57] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: i don't have a choice there
[12:57] <Irreducibilis> My 5500FX is better than a 8400GS, aside from the DX10 support
[12:57] <abhibera> ppj: i hear the nvidia has issues
[12:57] <abhibera> ppj: it screws up while running beryl
[12:58] <wiz> abhibera, it looks like you've heard issues for everything ((=
[12:58] <ppj> abhibera: you hear linux overheats, you hear nvidia has issues, why dont you just buy a laptop and stop listening to your friends
[12:58] <ppj> friends = idiots
[12:58] <Irreducibilis> Yeah.
[12:58] <Irreducibilis> Buy a dellianware
[12:58] <abhibera> ppj: hmmmmmmm well my friends use ubuntu on a macbook
[12:58] <mynyml> I want to be able to be notified of new rss feeds on the desktop ... for example with libnotify; anyone know a tool that would do that?
[12:58] <ppj> abhibera: macbooks run hot as hell, i have one
[12:58] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: i live in india
[12:58] <TeePOG> every piece of hardware, statistically, will have issues. the probability is that you'll get a good one
[12:58] <ppj> my macbook is far hotter than my lenovo
[12:58] <Irreducibilis> Can one triple-boot a mac pro with Linux/Mac/Windows?
[12:59] <abhibera> ppj: ah my friend seems to have done some tweaking
[12:59] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: yes u can
[12:59] <lnx_> someone know how to add and print with PIXMA IP 1500 ?
[12:59] <ppj> the fans on a macbook are on the back behind the monitor, bad layout IMO
[12:59] <Irreducibilis> :)
[12:59] <Irreducibilis> Best of all worlds.
[12:59] <wiz> Inx_ had you tried gnome-cups-manager?
[12:59] <mynyml> vmware is much better though
[12:59] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: but i wouldn't use windoze i like OSX and iLife apps
[12:59] <ppj> xp runs flawlessly on macbooks, its great
[12:59] <The-Compiler> Hi there
[12:59] <ppj> just burn a driver disk through bootcamp and youre done
[12:59] <Irreducibilis> I need windowz
[12:59] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: i like Ubuntu for dev purposes
[01:00] <ppj> i personally dislike OSX
[01:00] <ppj> feels too awkward
[01:00] <Irreducibilis> Same
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: HIt and miss with the canon printers
[01:00] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: OSX sucks for dev
[01:00] <Irreducibilis> But it would be nice just to have...
[01:00] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: but good for creative apps
[01:00] <ppj> I've never felt so out of place in an OS than trying to use OSX
[01:00] <ppj> And the application names piss me off
[01:00] <Irreducibilis> Indeed.
[01:00] <madgoat> OSX is cool... love it
[01:00] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , what ?
[01:00] <Irreducibilis> Stuff like dreamweaver and stuff
[01:00] <Irreducibilis> What kind of app name is that?
[01:00] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: run Photoshop, MS Office, Garage Band. they r really cool on OSX
[01:00] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: YOu want to setup a canon printer?
[01:00] <Gaidin> hey, in gnome my keyboard volume keys change master how would i make them change headphone? (alsa mixer)
[01:01] <Irreducibilis> abhibera: Have all of those except for garage band
[01:01] <ppj> Irreducibilis: more like stuff like colliliqouy, omnigraffle, etc, not very informative names
[01:01] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , yes an ip1500 pixma
[01:01] <[nrx] > in gnome my keyboard hotkeys would work for volume.. but in KDE they don't. any ideas people?
[01:01] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: get garage band and the M audio synth
[01:01] <penguincentral> hi
[01:01] <abhibera> Irreducibilis: u can make amazing music
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: DId you look it up in the hardware list..?
[01:01] <bony> how to forward a bunch of mail's in gmail to another account? i have created a filter in my gmail account and i want to forward the mails which have this filter tag to them to another mail id.
[01:01] <ppj> abhibera: i'd get a macbook pro or a lenovo t61p if i were you
[01:01] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardware
[01:01] <Ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:01] <ppj> i deifnitel wouldnt get a macbook
[01:02] <ppj> the finish is too fragile
[01:02] <[nrx] > in gnome my keyboard hotkeys would work for volume.. but in KDE they don't. any ideas people?
[01:02] <abhibera> ppj: lenovo thinkpad is called stinkpad in india because 1) it costs 2 times of what it costs in US 2) support sucks
[01:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !repeat
[01:02] <Ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:02] <ppj> abhibera: ah. i f'ing love thinkpads
[01:03] <abhibera> ppj: yea IBM was good
[01:03] <abhibera> ppj: lenovo is screwing it up
[01:03] <boontoo> How do i change my Video Out (vo) to X11 rather than xv? ayone?
[01:03] <ppj> abhibera: i've only owned lenovo thinkpads and love them
[01:03] <dennda> Is it a known issue with a fresh feisty install that the first update (via update-manager) leads to errors with openoffice and results in _immense_ speed loss after the next reboot?
[01:03] <ppj> they added all the new magnesium casing, carbon fiber, etc
[01:03] <ppj> theres some iffy points about what keyboard you'll get though
[01:03] <abhibera> ppj: those models cost a BOMB in India. lenovo has pretty bad popularity here
[01:03] <ppj> chicony on some which sucks
[01:03] <dennda> (I had this problem on two different machines. It said something about errors with openoffice)
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ppj please move to #ubuntu-offtopic to continue with that conversation
[01:04] <gnomefreak> abhibera: you as well please
[01:04] <abhibera> ppj:  whats a chicony?
[01:04] <ppj> no thanks
[01:04] <Jack_Sparrow> ppj: IT may be time to take that offtopic as people are starting to come in with questions
[01:04] <ppj> yes i got it the first time
[01:04] <gnomefreak> ppj: than keep it support related
[01:04] <adac> what is better: vncserver or vnc4server?
[01:04] <ppj> jesus christ
[01:04] <ppj> anyone else want to complain?
[01:04] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , i have installed the ip1500 driver and now in kcontrol > printer i have set it and i have found ip1500 in the printer list and when i do "peint test" nothing happen
[01:05] <abhibera> ppj: well gnomefreak is right but it was nice talking with ya maybe i'll get a thinkpad :)
[01:05] <abhibera> ppj: aka stinkpad here
[01:05] <frogzoo> dennda: oo's memory settings are on the low side & can be usefully bumped up
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: I dont use kubuntu..  How did you install the driver..?
[01:06] <dennda> frogzoo: don't get me wrong: The update-manager said it failed to update something openoffice-related. After I rebootet the _entire system_ was slow like hell
[01:06] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , alien it to deb , then sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[01:06] <dennda> So I didn't even fire up OO.org
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: Alien isnt a good solution
[01:07] <frogzoo> dennda: htop show something?
[01:07] <gila> aloooooooooo
[01:07] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , but the pakages are in  rpm format
[01:07] <MikeyMike> hey guys i have a simple command line question
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: Which means they are not DEBIAN format
[01:07] <ckin2001> !ask
[01:07] <Ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:07] <MikeyMike> i'm trying to figure out why /usr is so full.... what command would show me which directories in /usr are the largest?
[01:07] <dennda> frogzoo: unfortunately this happened yesterday at another machine in a local store where i wanted to demonstrate ubuntu. So I reinstalled it as fast as I could without updating. Thus I have no logs. (Just wanted to know if this is a known bug.)
[01:08] <booster_> hey guys  i have a question......today i was playing a few games like warsow and nexuiz. and they worked fine....ok now i tried to play them and the screen resolution goes to lik 400x800 and the games are real laggy....any ideas on how to fix it ??
[01:08] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , yes so i have convert them tobe . . .
[01:08] <DexterF> hi
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !alien
[01:08] <Ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[01:08] <dennda> MikeyMike: du or df (not sure)
[01:08] <DexterF> what's a good dvb watching app in ubuntu?
[01:08] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , ok you have other idea how i can set my printer ?
[01:09] <ckin2001> MikeyMike, du
[01:09] <MikeyMike> dennda,  du -s -k * | sort -n
[01:09] <MikeyMike> doesn't show enough
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: Nope, I shelved my canon
[01:09] <steel_lady> how can I install programs?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> !synaptic | steel_lady
[01:09] <Ubotu> steel_lady: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[01:09] <ckin2001> MikeyMike, du -Hs /usr/*
[01:09] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: SOmeone said there might be a fee / driver solution
[01:10] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, which repository should I add for XV image: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphics/XV-409.shtml
[01:10] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , turboprint ?
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: That may be it.
[01:10] <MikeyMike> ckin2001,  thanks
[01:10] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: not sure
[01:11] <booster_> should i try a reboot to fix my graphic problem /??
[01:11] <gnomefreak> booster_: try fixing it first
[01:11] <gnomefreak> booster_: reboot doesnt fix things really
[01:11] <lnx_> Jack_Sparrow , his prise is grate than my whole printer prise :(
[01:11] <booster_> any ideas on how??
[01:11] <dennda> did somebody ever buy large amounts of ubuntu CDs via this form http://www.ubuntu.com/files/u1/BulkCDOrderForm.pdf ? I want to know if they are sent as a bunch of CDs or with their usual carton-cases.
[01:11] <gnomefreak> booster_: what is the issue
[01:11] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, they explained to me how to do something for work with this program and I am googling and a lot of people are using it, just not mentioning how to install it
[01:11] <bullgard4> Why does sensors type 'No sensors found!'? I am sure that I have loaded all kernel drivers I need.
[01:11] <gnomefreak> dennda: you would have to ask them, this is not the channel for that
[01:12] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: did you look at the ubuntu forums?
[01:12] <booster_> well today i was playing games like warsow and nexuiz and it worked great...well now im trying to play them and they sometimes dont load...and if they do load they are all buggy and choppy
[01:12] <dennda> gnomefreak: Yes, sorry. Just thought somebody may have experience with this. ;)
[01:12] <booster_> and the screen res goes fromlike 1024x768 to like 400x600
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> lnx_: They give away canon printers with purchase at frys almost every week..  HNot a high end product
[01:13] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: that is something i would need to look into and i have app in an hour or so, i may not be best to look into it atm as i may run at any moment
[01:13] <gnomefreak> booster_: everything else works fine?
[01:13] <booster_> yes
[01:13] <gnomefreak> booster_: xorg works as expected  without games running?
[01:13] <booster_> just the games are giving me problems
[01:13] <gnomefreak> booster_: are you running compiz or berly?
[01:13] <gnomefreak> beryl even
[01:14] <booster_> not at  the moment
[01:14] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, they do not mantion it in forums
[01:14] <gnomefreak> booster_: do they do same thing without it running?
[01:14] <booster_> i realy havent tried to run the games while on beryl
[01:14] <[nrx] > in gnome my keyboard hotkeys would work for volume.. but in KDE they don't. any ideas people?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> booster_: dont
[01:15] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, is there a reason for this program not to be supported on ubuntu since it is widely used on linux?
[01:15] <gnomefreak> booster_: ok so you have only ran them with beryl off?
[01:15] <booster_> right
[01:15] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: yes most likely noone packaged it but i cant say its not in repos because i thought they were talking about it
[01:16] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: are you on feisty?
[01:16] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, and how do I find info on non standard repos?
[01:16] <steel_lady> yes I am gnomefreak
[01:16] <gnomefreak> booster_: thats odd but i would make sure all is good in xorg.conf
[01:17] <booster_> xorg.conf   ???? what does that do??
[01:17] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: hold on a sec libxv1 i have in gutsy let me check feisty
[01:17] <gnomefreak> booster_: its your xorg configure file
[01:17] <MikeyMike> anyone know where i can get osx help
[01:18] <booster_> any things i should look for??
[01:18] <Pici> MikeyMike: try ##mac
[01:18] <MikeyMike> im having 100% kernel_task useage on osx 10.4.10
[01:18] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, that was strange for me, I also have libraries but there is no installation for the actual viewer
[01:18] <Pici> MikeyMike: You need to /join ##mac   This channel here is only for Ubuntu support.
[01:19] <MikeyMike> Pici,  thanks i did
[01:19] <steel_lady> gnomefreak and it is not that fax viewer. seems to be 2 programs with the same or very similar name and they might have mixed them up and did not put the other in repos
[01:20] <kidbuntu> !chikka
[01:20] <Ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chikka - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: xvfb
[01:20] <kidbuntu> !firefox
[01:20] <Ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[01:20] <gnomefreak> Virtual Framebuffer 'fake' X server is not a fax veiwer afaik
[01:20] <gnomefreak> kidbuntu: please dont play with the bot
[01:21] <neol> how do i install pidgin in 7.04 ?
[01:21] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, it is a server program not an image viewer
[01:21] <gnomefreak> xvfb - Virtual Framebuffer 'fake' X server
[01:21] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: that says nothing of image viewer
[01:22] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: too install it from the site you are looking at you have to compile it
[01:22] <steel_lady> I nead image viewer written by  	John Bradley
[01:22] <Cope> hello... i've noticed that ssh connections seem to take several seconds longer from my ubuntu machine to other machines, compared to previous experiences with eg debian / redhat; it seems as if extra checking is taking place? rDNS or something?  Does anyone know if this is a specific ubuntu setting I can disable?  It's rather annoying.
[01:22] <Delta> hey I cant change my resolution to 1280x1024 .... I tried changing xorg.conf
[01:23] <madgoat> I'm very quickly going off Ubuntu :( It won't work with any DVD drives I have! tons of error messages in /var/log/messages
[01:23] <[nrx] > lol
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: Please post your xorg to the pastebin..
[01:23] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, I don't see compiling instructions :-(
[01:23] <gnomefreak> !fixres | Delta
[01:23] <Ubotu> Delta: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:23] <gnomefreak> steel_lady: there may not be any
[01:23] <neol> !pidgin
[01:23] <Ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.
[01:23] <gnomefreak> !compile | steel_lady
[01:23] <Ubotu> steel_lady: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:23] <madgoat> any ideas on why reading dvds may not work on ubuntu?
[01:23] <madgoat> is there a different driver I can use or something...
[01:24] <gnomefreak> madgoat: just a few
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> madgoat: How did you install the codecs for dvd's
[01:24] <gnomefreak> you are missing codecs
[01:24] <madgoat> I'm using vobcopy
[01:24] <madgoat> and tried using dd but didn't work
[01:24] <madgoat> I'm getting r/w errors
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> k9copy?
[01:24] <Delta> can you give me the address of the pastebin?
[01:24] <SlimeyPete> !pastebin
[01:24] <Ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:25] <madgoat> k9copy?
[01:25] <madgoat> hows that going to help?
[01:25] <SlimeyPete> madgoat: sounds like an IDE driver problem. Upgrading your kernel *might* help (but there are no guarantees)
[01:25] <madgoat> god and I thought Ubuntu was polished
[01:25] <gnomefreak> looks more like a permissions issue on dvd or on drive
[01:25] <madgoat> I've tried a pioneer drive and a sony... neither work
[01:25] <blizzkid> hi guys, I'm trying to get Rosegarden working, but it doesn't produce any sound. I have jack -d oss (or jackd -d alsa) running and qsynth, but still no sound. Googling didn't learn me much. Any ideas?
[01:25] <madgoat> I'm running the commands as root
[01:25] <gnomefreak> madgoat: dont run them as root :(
[01:26] <SlimeyPete> madgoat: IDE chipset driver issue then, I guess. Do other distros work?
[01:26] <madgoat> gentoo worked fine with it
[01:26] <Delta> will updating my driver help?
[01:26] <neol> any idea how to install pidgin on ubuntu 7
[01:26] <neol> :)
[01:26] <Myrtti> ubuntu 7 what
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:26] <madgoat> how do you upgrade kernel on ubuntu?
[01:26] <neol> ubuntu 7.04
[01:26] <gnomefreak> nox-Hand: compile it or look for debs somewhere
[01:26] <gnomefreak> neol: that was for you
[01:27] <neol> gnomefreak: where will i get those deb pack ?
[01:27] <SlimeyPete> madgoat: ah. Check whether gentoo has a later kernel than ubuntu - if it does, try upgrading
[01:27] <blizzkid> hi guys, I'm trying to get Rosegarden working, but it doesn't produce any sound. I have jack -d oss (or jackd -d alsa) running and qsynth, but still no sound. Googling didn't learn me much. Any ideas?
[01:27] <steel_lady> gnomefreak, it sends me to http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic and the link does not work for me
[01:27] <ckin2001> neol, check http://www.debuntu.org/pidgin-2.0.0-deb-ubuntu-feisty-fawn
[01:27] <madgoat> thing is it worked fine to install from cd
[01:28] <Cyber34> I'm trying to get my Webcam working with EasyCam2, however when I try enabling the repository, I get an error saying the files I'm looking for aren't ther
[01:29] <Delta> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37303/
[01:29] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[01:29] <[nrx] > in gnome my keyboard hotkeys would work for volume.. but in KDE they don't. any ideas people?
[01:29] <predaeus> blizzkid, depending on what soundcard you use you might need to load a sound font file onto the card. see sfxload (e.g. man sfxload)
[01:30] <blizzkid> ok, I`ll  look at that first predaeus
[01:30] <Cyber34> The exact error is "Could not Download repository indexes"
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: That looks ok...
[01:31] <silentmind> I installed a belkin wireless card, it shows up in network manager and detects my wireless connection, but I still cant get internet access. is there any way to check the card is connecting properly?
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> what monitor are you running?
[01:31] <blizzkid> predaeus, when running sfxload I get "No AWE synth device is found"
[01:31] <Delta> yeah I know but I dont have the resolution option in the scroll itself ... will updating the Graphic card driver will help?
[01:31] <booster_> hey guys i think i know what my problem is now......i have a difrent distro of ubuntu and i didnt know that it came with compiz-fousin so i installed beryl......is there anyway to uninstall both beryl and compiz and start all over ???
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: It wont give you the option if it cant display it.
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: Is that an onboard card or a plug-in
[01:34] <Delta> it can display it....I did yesterday...but I reinstalled ubuntu since then
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: What monitor or have you manually entered the sync rates?
[01:35] <Delta> I havent changed the sync rate
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: What monitor...  third and last time I ask
[01:37] <blizzkid> predaeus?
[01:37] <Delta> my monitor is a nineteen inch one .... a LG Flatron L1910B
[01:38] <predaeus> blizzkid, I don't know, looks like you have a different card that does not use AWE. Search the ubuntu forums and web for your card and midi.
[01:38] <Cyber34> Wait a second, IS there a 64 bit version of EasyCam2?
[01:39] <b33r> Do I need a 64 bit version of ubuntu with Intel E6750 CPU?
[01:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: vrefresh wrong... 56-75
[01:40] <kitche> b33r, well x86 works on x86_64 processors
[01:40] <Delta> line 94?
[01:41] <b33r> kitche, what's the difference between the x86 and 64 bit version?
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37304/
[01:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: based on   http://de.shopping.com/xPF-LG_FLATRON_L1910B
[01:41] <kitche> b33r, umm one is made for x86_64 and other one one is made for x86 but you have less software options with x86_64
[01:42] <Delta> ok
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: It is the only thing I see... someone else may see another issue
[01:42] <b33r> I mean any performance boost with the 64 version?
[01:42] <Delta> should I restart? coz I still cant change it
[01:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: Yes, you need to
[01:43] <kitche> b33r, umm maybe a 0.00007% since nothing is made for 64 bit right now really
[01:43] <b33r> ok thanks
[01:44] <Delta> thanks jack it works now :)
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[01:44] <Irreducibilis> X64
[01:44] <Irreducibilis> We need X128
[01:44] <Otacon22> Can i create a virtual audio device like /dev/dsp2 and for example say to an mp3 player to send audio in that device and than use a software like audacity to register on that device?
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/Desktop/xorg.conf.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Delta: Save a copy
[01:45] <Seveas> Otacon22, if you have a second soundcard you can
[01:45] <Otacon22> Seveas, i can't create a virtual sound card like i saied?
[01:45] <Seveas> Otacon22, no, you need to use alsa if you want to share a soundcard.
[01:46] <Otacon22> hum
[01:46] <xavivars> hello
[01:47] <xavivars> can anyone help me?
[01:47] <VSpike> how hard is it to retrofit lvm to a running system?
[01:47] <xavivars> if I write on a shell script something like
[01:47] <xavivars>     #!/bin/bash
[01:47] <xavivars>     cat file.txt | iconv -flatin1
[01:47] <xavivars> it works well
[01:48] <xavivars>     #!/bin/bash
[01:48] <xavivars>     ORDRE="cat file.txt | iconv -flatin1"
[01:48] <xavivars>     $ORDRE
[01:48] <xavivars> this fails
[01:48] <xavivars> why?
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> xavivars: Please dont paste into channel
[01:48] <xavivars> (it says "cat: invalid option -- f")
[01:49] <xavivars> Jack_Sparrow: sorry
[01:49] <steel_lady> please, I am trying to compile, who can help me?
[01:49] <xavivars> i didn't know it was not allowed
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> xavivars: THis is a channel for help with Ubuntu related problems..not bash programming
[01:49] <xavivars> ok
[01:49] <xavivars> do you know a channel about bash programming?
[01:50] <chris_> xavivars: write eval $ORDRE
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> xavivars: I would assume there is a #Bash
[01:50] <chris_> xavivars: instead of just $ORDRE
[01:50] <xavivars> chris thanks
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks chris
[01:50] <lamer11896841751> just updated the kernel, and DVD drives *still* don't work :(
[01:50] <lamer11896841751> any ideas how to fix them so I can read dvds?
[01:50] <xavivars> Jack_Sparrow: thank you too
[01:50] <xavivars> ;)
[01:50] <Talcite> hey guys, are there any tasm-syntax compatible assembly compilers for linux?
[01:51] <neol> how do i search a specific file in my whole root parition ?
[01:51] <chris_> neol: find / -name '*porn*'
[01:52] <lostallhope> Hello . I have installed a ATI driver on my ubuntu feisty but when i press the CCCP it says "No ati graphic driver installed"
[01:52] <lostallhope> its an ATI X700 mobility card
[01:52] <chris_> neol: "locate porn" is faster, but uses a database that's up to 24 hours old
[01:53] <CrowJake> hello all, can any one help me with installing ubuntu?
[01:53] <chris_> neol: or use beagle - hit F12 and search there
[01:53] <neol> chris_: u mean files which were modified b4 24 hrs for " locate porn " ?
[01:53] <kitche> hmm anyone know why openoffice in ubuntu makes my page look longer then it actually is then in windows in ubuntu it's 3 pages in windows it's 2 1/2 pages
[01:54] <CrowJake> magic?
[01:54] <chris_> neol: locate will only find files which existed the last time the database was rebuilt, which happens around 7am each day I think
[01:54] <TTilus> neol: locate finds if the file _existed_ 24+ hours ago
[01:54] <chris_> kitche: different margins maybe?
[01:54] <dgjones> kitche, are the two versions using different fonts or point sizes?, or possibly the printer margins set in each version could be set differently
[01:55] <zygen> You can always update the locate database: sudo locate -u
[01:55] <neol> chris_: how 2 use beagle ?
[01:55] <kitche> same font and everything same margins
[01:55] <chris_> neol: hit F12?
[01:55] <neol> chris_: nothing happens when i hit f12
[01:56] <chris_> neol: maybe you don't have beagle installed?
[01:56] <dgjones> kitche, header or footer settings as a possibility
[01:56] <CrowJake> does any one know if it's possible to make a new partition on a pc that's already partitioned, in which to install ubuntu?
[01:56] <chris_> neol: what if you run beagle-search in a terminal?
[01:56] <neol> chris_: will use find only.... does find results include even hidden files /
[01:56] <neol> chris_: command not found
[01:56] <kitche> dgjones, as I stated everything is the sme settings
[01:57] <silentmind> I have a working wireless card but no internet connection... total newb, can someone help?#
[01:57] <chris_> CrowJake: the uubuntu installer will resize existing partitions for you.  do a backup first if you value your data
[01:57] <neol> chris_: does find include results of hidden files ?
[01:58] <chris_> neol: install package 'beagle'.  I'm not sure what it includes.  I use 'find' or 'locate', me.
[01:58] <CrowJake> well it's a new laptop so there's not much on it, but that's ok. can i not partition it into 3? vista - linux - doccuments
[01:58] <chris_> neol: sorry, yes, find does
[01:58] <neol> chris_: thx
[01:59] <chris_> CrowJake: you can partition it however you like
[01:59] <chris_> CrowJake: if you want to be able to write to 'documents' from both linux and windows, it's a good idea to use FAT format
[02:00] <CrowJake> i feel like a novice *googles FAT*
[02:00] <CrowJake> when i inta
[02:00] <chris_> CrowJake: the installer will let you specify the filesystem type for each partition. FAT is a format that ubuntu and windows can both write to safely.  NTFS is a proprietary MS formay, which linux can write to, but I'm not sure how safe it is
[02:00] <CrowJake> oops,
[02:01] <chris_> formay>format
[02:01] <Pici> !ntfs-3g
[02:01] <Ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:01] <chris_> Pici: is it safe?
[02:02] <CrowJake> oh thanks, i'll give it another go, it looked at the time that i could only move a solitary partition, i may be back later, thanks loads for the help
[02:02] <crlao> how to get the list of partitions in a terminal ?
[02:02] <chris_> crlao: fdisk -l /dev/sda
[02:02] <thedonvaughn> crlao, fdisk -l to show list of partitions of all discs in your system
[02:03] <more_wimt> I've used NTFS-3g without an issues... sometimes it messes up though and requires you to boot into Windows to fix the NTFS though. No data loss though
[02:03] <chris_> thedonvaughn: nice.  I didn't know you could leave out the /dev/ argument
[02:03] <chris_> more_wimt: worrying
[02:03] <greatgerbil> Hi, does anyone here have experience with ati radeon cards?
[02:03] <[nrx] > yeah, they're crap
[02:03] <thedonvaughn> chris_, yup, it'll default to list all discs
[02:03] <chris_> greatgerbil: I'm using one now.  It doesn't work properly in feisty
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> I prefer fat32.. I dont let either os write to the sysem partition of the other
[02:05] <more_wimt> Yeah fat32 is a safer option to let either OS write to happily. I use NTFS on my external drives though out of habit
[02:05] <dgjones> chris_, i use ntfs-3g very occasionally and haven't had a problem, although for safety, i'm in the process of backing up data on an ntfs drive ready to reformat to either fat32 or ext3 now i don't have any specific need to use windows
[02:05] <chris_> greatgerbil: I can't pm you - I can't remember my nickserv password...
[02:06] <chris_> dgjones: I found that since windows can read ext3, and linux can read ntfs, I never needed a 'middle' exchange partition
[02:06] <crlao> chris_, thedonvaughn: thanks :)
[02:06] <more_wimt> In reality, most of the times ntfs-3g requires me to boot into Windows to fix the NTFS is probably because I remove the external drives unsafely
[02:06] <chris_> dgjones: I installed an ext3 driver in windows - it doesn't have one as standard of course
[02:06] <thedonvaughn> greatgerbil, you running closed source or open source drivers?
[02:06] <chris_> !ati
[02:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:07] <greatgerbil> ok, well I'm just trying to install the ati driver.. but a message comes up that gedit can't find the right character coding.
[02:07] <thedonvaughn> greatgerbil, and if you describe specifcally what issue you are having, i'm sure you'd get more responses.  Asking if someone has an ati card doesn't count.
[02:07] <Ross154> wtf
[02:08] <vader1102> What is this, I come in to people swearing?
[02:08] <dgjones> chris_, i had a 320gb  drive in a windows server so needed t formatted as ntfs, i've replaced the machine with an ubuntu one now so don't need it as ntfs anymore, so for safety, im replacing it as a format natively read by linux
[02:08] <Ross154> ooops ... wtong window   lol
[02:08] <Delta> When I press <Shift>+<Ctrl>+<Alt>+<Left/Right> nothing happens, I do have multiple work-spaces and I can move windows from one to another by dragging them
[02:09] <vader1102> Delta, try ctrl alt left or right
[02:09] <vader1102> or ctrl alt tab left or right
[02:10] <silentmind> I have a working wireless card but no internet connection... total newb, can someone help?
[02:11] <Delta> yeah ctrl alt left & right works
[02:11] <vader1102> lol
[02:11] <muNkey_boy> Hello.
[02:11] <vader1102> sorry paying attention to the wifes windows crap machine. Infected badly at the moment
[02:12] <greatgerbil> ok nevermind...the page has the instructions...thanks for trying to help
[02:12] <DigeratiX> why is FLOPPY always there in places view when I go to click on places/home? I dont have one installed
[02:12] <muNkey_boy> I was just wondering, would Ubuntu be anygood for running a file server and media box?
[02:12] <vader1102> Delta, also if you have it configured, ctrl alt tab left or right will display the cube :)
[02:13] <muNkey_boy> All I will need on the file server is support for a FTP server and HDD support. And I'm pretty sure that VLC Media player runs on Ubuntu.
[02:13] <jah> hey guys--
[02:13] <vader1102> muNkey_boy, no idea. Someone with a little more experience will have to help there
[02:13] <muNkey_boy> Hi.
[02:13] <thedonvaughn> muNkey_boy, it will do that very easily
[02:13] <dgjones> muNkey_boy, yes, its fine, i'm doing that at the minute, shared drives & printers from one machine using wired & wifi networks
[02:13] <jah> uhhhm , a question, is it possible to download a whole website to hd to view it offline?
[02:14] <scam_> jah,  man wget
[02:14] <muNkey_boy> Cool, what FTP Server software do you recommend for it?
[02:14] <Delta> I still havent installed ccsm
[02:14] <DigeratiX> jah yes
[02:14] <DigeratiX> use or google httrack
[02:14] <dbmoodb> cache :)
[02:14] <DigeratiX> eww woops
[02:15] <DigeratiX> it may only work on windows
[02:15] <DigeratiX> it was a gui based thing
[02:15] <lamer11896841751> I'm thinking of switching to gentoo :( ubuntu just won't work with any dvd drives I've got :(
[02:15] <dgjones> muNkey_boy, i don't use any FTP software, just a straight ubuntu desktop install with a media partition and a 2nd drive with rw access for anybody
[02:15] <DigeratiX> wget has tons of cmd line options so suck a website
[02:15] <Pici> DigeratiX: There are httrack packages for Ubuntu, I believe they are in the repos.
[02:15] <greatgerbil> ok guys, I really don't know linux...so bare with me... how do I find the desktop directory in terminal
[02:15] <dbmoodb> digeratix -- tried wine ?
[02:15] <DigeratiX> kool
[02:15] <DigeratiX> yes wine is ok
[02:15] <thedonvaughn> greatgerbil, ~/Desktop
[02:15] <greatgerbil> thank
[02:15] <greatgerbil> you
[02:16] <thedonvaughn> greatgerbil, ~ is shorthand for your home directory.  (/home/username>
[02:16] <girl_can_rock> hey
[02:16] <[nrx] > hi
[02:17] <vader1102> bbiab.... cold here and need to warm up.....
[02:17] <Delta> Vader: but I dont want to see the cube , I want to be able to move my windows without dragging them
[02:17] <DigeratiX> can someone help me with my question that is probably simple?
[02:17] <DigeratiX> why is FLOPPY always there in places view when I go to click on places/home? I dont have one installed
[02:18] <[nrx] > it's a default in your stab
[02:18] <[nrx] > fstab, even
[02:18] <DigeratiX> can it be commented?
[02:18] <[nrx] > yes :)
[02:18] <dbmoodb> digeratix really ?
[02:18] <dbmoodb> you don't have a floppy drive ?
[02:18] <[nrx] > i only have fdd on one of my machines
[02:19] <thedonvaughn> i haven't had a floppy in like 10 years :)
[02:19] <thedonvaughn> drive
[02:19] <DigeratiX> beleive it or not they actually DO still have good use, I used it to flash the bios on this pc before installing ubunut
[02:19] <[nrx] > <thedonvaughn> i haven't had a floppy in like 10 years :)  <--- viagra taking it's toll?
[02:19] <[nrx] > :D
[02:19] <DigeratiX> 10 years is a stretch
[02:19] <thedonvaughn> lol
[02:19] <Augustus_Kolya> thedonvaughn: use rawrite to make the disk images
[02:19] <Augustus_Kolya> :P
[02:20] <scam_> i use DD all the time :)
[02:20] <DigeratiX> brb
[02:20] <scam_> especially when im installing 50 of the same computers :)
[02:20] <[nrx] > in gnome my keyboard hotkeys would work for volume.. but in KDE they don't. any ideas people?
[02:21] <nanonyme> asking
[02:21] <nanonyme> oops :)
[02:21] <nanonyme> asking why WM spesific hotkeys don't work for another WM? :)
[02:21] <Bajo> !applet
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about applet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <Bajo> hi everyone, can I start an applet that do not appear on the "add to panel" menu?
[02:22] <Bajo> *does
[02:22] <[nrx] > no no, I'm taking about keyboard hotkeys on a laptop.. for volume, etc. as in, holding down 'fn' and then 'up' for vol up and 'down' for vol down
[02:22] <[nrx] > gnome picked them up after install.. but KDE doesn't want to know
[02:22] <xxxgirls> hiii
[02:23] <greatgerbil> to run the package I created (still ati) terminal says I need superuser privilages...what do I do?
[02:23] <thedonvaughn> greatgerbil, run the command using sudo
[02:24] <hjmills> hi all - what is more secure, ssl or tls
[02:25] <thedonvaughn> greatgerbil, but. you can let ubuntu do all the work for you to install ati drivers.  you should read the wiki
[02:25] <thedonvaughn> !ati
[02:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:26] <greatgerbil> so instead of "dpkg -i fglrx-kernel-source_8.40.4-1_amd64.deb"  I replace dpkg with sudo?
[02:26] <thedonvaughn> greatgerbil, no you just put sudo in front of it
[02:26] <greatgerbil> ok
[02:26] <thedonvaughn> but um
[02:26] <thedonvaughn> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[02:27] <jeff_> what irc client do you folks use?
[02:27] <thedonvaughn> why are you installing the drivers like that?
[02:27] <thedonvaughn> jeff_, i prefer irssi
[02:27] <dbmoodb> xchat
[02:27] <hjmills> xchat
[02:27] <praet> jmak642: irssi in a screen
[02:27] <DigeratiX> worked good that commenting out
[02:27] <DigeratiX> sometimes I just dont think
[02:27] <Klavier> can t find xmms or mplayer in add/remove section of my ubuntu
[02:27] <jmak642> noone uses bitchx?
[02:28] <Klavier> should i install them manually
[02:28] <Phreakazoid> excuse me does anyone know how to change the icon on the applications menu?
[02:28] <hjmills> !language
[02:28] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:28] <DigeratiX> i use xchat
[02:28] <praet> Klavier: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[02:28] <jmak642> !bitchx
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bitchx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:28] <thedonvaughn> Klavier, sudo aptitude search mplayer
[02:28] <BlackDark> hi
[02:28] <defrysk> !info bitchx
[02:28] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1506 kB, installed size 6508 kB
[02:28] <BlackDark> does anyone uses ubuntu feisty with an hauppauge 250 or 150 ?
[02:28] <n3tfury> hjmills: did anybody answer your question
[02:28] <hjmills> Klavier, have you enabled the universe and multiverse repos
[02:29] <hjmills> n3tfury, not yet
[02:29] <Klavier> okay
[02:29] <jmak642> alright well i'll be back after work
[02:29] <jmak642> cyas
[02:29] <BlackDark> I have a kernel panic with feisty after 2-3 days being up, suspecting lirc
[02:29] <praet> Klavier: it is in multivers (open system > Adminstration > Software sources and check univers, multiverse)
[02:29] <BlackDark> wondering if I'm the only one to get that problem
[02:29] <Klavier> play praet
[02:29] <kingyami> hello all
[02:29] <Klavier> ok
[02:29] <n3tfury> tls IS ssl, just a newer version.  i've not used any tls specified apps yet though
[02:30] <kingyami> i need help finding a program
[02:30] <praet> !ask > kingyami
[02:30] <kingyami> it is called golden gaia
[02:30] <hjmills> n3tfury, oh ok, thanks for the distinction
[02:30] <thedonvaughn> kingyami, google is your friend
[02:30] <thedonvaughn> kingyami, sudo aptitude search golden or gaia shows nothing
[02:30] <n3tfury> yw hjmills
[02:31] <kingyami> thanks
[02:31] <hjmills> kingyami, is it a linux program?
[02:31] <thedonvaughn> kingyami, actually sudo aptitude search gaia shows a package called gaia
[02:31] <praet> kingyami: is that a chat bot?
[02:31] <GioBlack> hi
[02:31] <muNkey_boy> hi
[02:31] <praet> or an online game?
[02:31] <n3tfury> sounds kinky
[02:31] <visioncig> hi
[02:31] <GioBlack> !list
[02:31] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:31] <thedonvaughn> !gaia
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gaia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <thedonvaughn> !info gaia
[02:31] <ubotu> Package gaia does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:31] <kingyami> no it is a gold bot for gauiaonline
[02:31] <kingyami> gaiaonline
[02:31] <xxxgirls> hello
[02:31] <praet> kingyami: http://chaosprogramming.com/
[02:32] <thedonvaughn> kingyami, a gold bot what for what?  What does that have to do with #ubuntu?
[02:32] <kingyami> anyplace to get besides chaos?
[02:32] <greatgerbil> ok almost done, how do I change /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common to include DISABLED_MODULES="somemodule2 fglrx"?
[02:32] <Zasch> Hello. Suppose I were to type in the command: "dd if=/dev/fd0 of=bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1".  Nevermind. :P
[02:34] <praet> Jack_Sparrow: 'lo
[02:34] <thedonvaughn> !ubuntu > thedonvaughn
[02:39] <cVsup> libusplash-dev is deprecated?
[02:40] <dgjones> has the channel gone silent? only seen one message in the last 5 minutes
[02:40] <pike_> you spoiled it!
[02:40] <Pici> dgjones: shh!
[02:41] <Irreducibilis> 1125 people and no messages?!
[02:41] <cVsup> somebody can help me?
[02:41] <Irreducibilis> Nevermind...
[02:41] <cVsup> i need install libusplash-dev
[02:41] <Pici> cVsup: What version of Ubuntu?
[02:41] <CrowJake> does anyone know if I change my partition types to FAT when installing ubuntu, whether vista will still run ok?
[02:41] <cVsup> 6.06.1
[02:42] <crlao> how to write on a ntfs usb disk ?
[02:42] <thedonvaughn> CrowJake, i would highly not recommend changing your file system type for your windows partition during installation of ubuntu
[02:42] <Pici> cVsup: Doesn't look like that package is available for dapper.
[02:42] <greatgerbil> ok almost done, how do I change /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common to include DISABLED_MODULES="somemodule2 fglrx"?
[02:42] <Irreducibilis> crlao: Thats what I want to kow
[02:42] <dgjones> !ntfs-3g | crlao
[02:42] <ubotu> crlao: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:42] <Irreducibilis> know
[02:43] <no0n> Does anyone know if there is a way to upgrade from torrentflux torrentflux-b4rt?
[02:43] <jonathan_> somebody know how to install kde4 beta 3 for kubuntu feisty?
[02:43] <thedonvaughn> !kde4 > jonathan_
[02:44] <cVsup> Pici, I can install of another version?
[02:44] <zetheroo> I would like to know how to make Thunderbird my default mail client
[02:44] <CrowJake> oh lol, there's an empty partition that was already on  the pc when i first turned it on, would that still be ok?
[02:44] <zetheroo> I would like to know how to make Thunderbird my default mail client
[02:45] <thedonvaughn> zetheroo, System -> Preferences -> Prefered Applications
[02:45] <praet> zetheroo: System > preferences > default programs
[02:45] <zetheroo> thanks
[02:45] <praet> er. right,
[02:45] <praet> what thedonvaughn said
[02:46] <xoRock> hai, just install crossover pro, but there is no icon/menu, what should i do?
[02:46] <kritzstapf> im running a server with gentoo atm and want to switch to ubuntu but there is no cd-drive attached, how to install out of the running gentoo?
[02:47] <SettlerX> Hey. I don't know if someone posted this issue on bug tracker but Ubuntu (or linux kernel) has problems with managing CD-ROM speed.
[02:47] <greatgerbil>  how do I edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common?
[02:47] <[nrx] > i still can't get my laptop's hotkeys to work :(
[02:48] <praet> xoRock: ~/cxoffice/bin/cxinstallwizard  ?
[02:48] <praet> greatgerbil: sudo gedit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[02:49] <xoRock> praet,  /home/xo/cxoffice/bin/cxinstallwizard: No such file or directory
[02:49] <Pici> cVsup: I'm guessing that you are trying to customize your usplash image, you shouldnt need that package.  Please follow the second half of this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[02:50] <cVsup> pici but i need libusplash-dev for install reconstructor package
[02:50] <SettlerX> When Xubuntu loads from cd-rom, the speed is very low... however, if it has some problems with reading files, CD disc is scattered to maximum speed (Windows doesn't speed up it so much).
[02:50] <greatgerbil> thank you again
[02:50] <praet> xoRock: type [which cxinstallwizard]  to see where the install wizard is located
[02:51] <dgjones> SettlerX, do you mean loading data from a cd rom, or using a livecd?
[02:51] <PgL|Neocid> hi everyone, i'am a new user of ubuntu. I would like to install my Trendnet wifi 802.11g card and I encounter many issue. Anyone can help me ?
[02:51] <SettlerX> dgjones: liveCD
[02:51] <praet> PgL|Neocid: what is the issue?
[02:51] <SettlerX> i don't know if it's a problem of Ubuntu or Linux kernel
[02:51] <dgjones> SettlerX, the live cd's are quite slow, nowhere near as quick as proper hard drive installation
[02:52] <PgL|Neocid> praet: My wifi card isn't recognize by ubuntu ( or debian or any other kernel )
[02:52] <xoRock> praet, thx its in /opt/cxoffice/bin
[02:52] <spoon-man> hi all
[02:52] <spoon-man> has any one got dmix to work using a nf2 chipset
[02:53] <Pici> cVsup: This might help: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-328575.html
[02:53] <SettlerX> dgjones: Live CDs should be quite faster but they shouldn't speed up to maximum in some moments...
[02:53] <praet> PgL|Neocid: you will need ndiswrapper, follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[02:53] <praet> PgL|Neocid: and use this driver: http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R140747.EXE
[02:54] <webpower> how to enable 3d ati radeon for ubuntu?
[02:54] <xoRock> praet, after install wizard done, i choose private, then im confuse again :D
[02:54] <webpower> driver
[02:54] <PgL|Neocid> praet: ok i'll fallow this thing, thanks to you.
[02:54] <xoRock> praet, no shortcut
[02:55] <dgjones> SettlerX, i've not used an xubuntu livecd, but the ubuntu/kde ones seem ok, just generally slow
[02:55] <praet> xoRock: hrmm. I m not too familiar in usage, I would read these: http://www.codeweavers.com/support/docs/crossover-standard/
[02:55] <xoRock> praet, thx ill read it
[02:56] <zetheroo> has anyone found a easy solution to screen expansion?
[02:56] <gerro> know how when you enter random windows services in google it pops up sites like this one http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/explorer.exe.html. Where are the sites that have that for linux? There are loads of root processes going on and I'd like to acquaint myself with what they do
[02:56] <kritzstapf> im running a server with gentoo atm and want to switch to ubuntu but there is no cd-drive attached, how to install out of the running gentoo?
[02:56] <dgjones> !install | kritzstapf
[02:57] <pike_> !install | kritzstapf
[02:57] <ubotu> kritzstapf: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:57] <cVsup> Pici, thank?
[02:57] <cVsup> Pici, thank's
[02:57] <praet> xoRock: one more thing, right clcik the applications menu on the top gnome panel and select Edit menus, see if the crossover shortcuts are created
[02:57] <pike_> kritzstapf: heh, that first link has many isntall options
[02:57] <VSpike> how hard is it to retrofit lvm to a running system?
[02:57] <zetheroo> desktop expansion anyone?
[02:57] <kronos> is there a way I can stop the system from sending messages ?
[02:57] <praet> kronos: define "sending messages"
[02:58] <xoRock> praet, i found it thx :D
[02:58] <praet> xoRock: great!
[02:58] <kronos> praet: system messages via sendmail
[02:58] <Pici> !xinerama > zetheroo (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[02:58] <Pici> !dualhead > zetheroo (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[02:59] <zetheroo> see I have been to all those pages
[02:59] <BCMM> is is possible to load the install CD into ram?
[02:59] <BCMM> like the toram option on Knoppix?
[03:00] <kronos> praet: the messages sent by the system via sendmail
[03:00] <pike_> i was tolk ubuntu intended some front end to configure dual head display in next release or so too
[03:00] <zetheroo> I dunno what the diff is between Dual Head and Big Screen
[03:00] <pike_> tolk/told me speek gud
[03:01] <zetheroo> I need to work on two screens because beryl doesn't work for me
[03:01] <[nrx] > i need to get my laptop hotkeys working ;p
[03:01] <CrowJake> would anyone mind giving me one on one help in pm?
[03:01] <[nrx] > CrowJake, what's up?
[03:02] <CrowJake> partitions
[03:02] <[nrx] > ...
[03:02] <[nrx] > elaborate
[03:02] <[nrx] > :)
[03:02] <praet> kronos: well you should see mailboxes in /var/mail
[03:03] <CrowJake> everytime i get a question answered i get another lol,
[03:03] <CrowJake> i'm jst not very sure how to do it, i've got to the manual partitioning screen on the intallation, and i'm not sure what to do
[03:03] <praet> CrowJake: wy dd you select manual partitioning then :)
[03:04] <CrowJake> because i wanted to have a partition with vista in, one with shared files, and another with ubuntu
[03:04] <[nrx] > CrowJake, do you have partitions setup?
[03:05] <praet> kronos:
[03:05] <xerxe> hello
[03:05] <CrowJake> i thought it was partitioned into two, there was an (almosty) empty partition called "Data" and another called "Acer" (the make of this)
[03:05] <praet> kronos: this file determines mail routing as well/etc/aliases
[03:06] <enano> Hi! I recently upgraded my system to 7.04, amd64bit version. I'm using Geforce 6600GT and now the X-server fails to load. I've red on many different forums, but can't really find a solution on how to get this working. Any help would be much appriciated. Thanks!
[03:06] <Delta> everytime I start ubuntu I get some messeges saying some files (that arent on the ubuntu partition) are named incorrectly and it renames them....how can I stop that?
[03:06] <[nrx] > CrowJake, you can click on the partitions and resize them... once you have resized them, you can create new partitions. Once all of this is done, you click on Apply
[03:06] <CrowJake> but on the screen now, it's sd1, sd2, and sd3, and a seperate one called sdb1
[03:06] <xerxe_> hello
[03:06] <xerxe_> im new hero
[03:07] <xerxe_> great cominity!
[03:07] <xerxe_> i heve a ati radeon x1300 graphic card
[03:07] <CrowJake> gaah, i hope it works ok
[03:07] <IdleOne> someone here familiar enough with aptitude to tell me how I remove a "hold" I placed on a package?
[03:07] <praet> IdleOne: i can help.
[03:07] <xerxe_> cant get more than 1024x768
[03:07] <Pici> !fixres > xerxe_ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[03:07] <xerxe_> ati drivers installed by envy
[03:07] <praet> IdleOne: echo "compiz-core hold" |sudo dpkg --set-selections
[03:08] <praet> IdleOne: change hold to install
[03:08] <IdleOne> praet: ty very much
[03:08] <praet> nop
[03:08] <xerxe_> i have ati control cener for linux running
[03:08] <Pici> !envy | xerxe_
[03:08] <ubotu> xerxe_: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[03:09] <IdleOne> praet: why did you use compiz-core as example?
[03:09] <PgL|Neocid> praet: you gave me an url for my wifi driver, and it's for dell wifi network card, I have my own driver, I may use my driver no ?
[03:09] <enano> Also when I try "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" I get: "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returnet an error code (1)".
[03:09] <tlk> what does this mean : E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:09] <tlk> E: _cache->open() failed, please report. ???
[03:09] <praet> PgL|Neocid: yes ndiswrapper 'wraps' around the win32 driver, you can use the one you got with the comp
[03:09] <PgL|Neocid> thx
[03:09] <xerxe_> i have used the restricted manager
[03:10] <xerxe_> and its says that ati driver is enabled
[03:10] <praet> IdleOne: because the new fusion repo has a bug in ppa that causes it to remain updateable even though you are already current :)
[03:10] <xerxe_> but no change in resolution or desktop effect
[03:10] <zetheroo> ati drivers .... I am using the ubuntu delivered fglrx driver and I want to update it to the newly released one from ati...... how do I do that????
[03:11] <tlk> What does this mean??:E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:11] <tlk> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.???
[03:11] <IdleOne> praet: hehe ok. I actualy had a hold on xserver-xorg-core but they seemed to have fixed it hopefully so i wanna give it a shot
[03:11] <IdleOne> tlk: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:12] <zetheroo> ati drivers .... I am using the ubuntu delivered fglrx driver and I want to update it to the newly released one from ati...... how do I do that????
[03:12] <docmur__> Question:  My speakers seem to only output on the left right channel, so I downloaded gnome-alsamixer to test the balance R L and the same problem no sound when I move my slides to the right, so I switched the 2 inputs on the back of the sub and the right speaker work.  The odd part is there is till sound coming from the other speaker just very very quite
[03:12] <docmur__> so would this be a software problem or are my speakers bad
[03:13] <IdleOne> docmur__: make sure speakers are plugged in properly but that is about as much as I know
[03:13] <docmur__> true enought
[03:13] <DuClare> sounds familiar
[03:13] <DuClare> but I can't remember what was the case exactly here..
[03:14] <spoon-man> how do you get the i2c module loaded
[03:14] <zetheroo> ati drivers .... I am using the ubuntu delivered fglrx driver and I want to update it to the newly released one from ati...... how do I do that????
[03:14] <s4mmy> #kawanua
[03:15] <IdleOne> !ati | zetheroo
[03:15] <ubotu> zetheroo: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:15] <pike_> docta_v: id run alsamixer in terminal and play an mp3 or somethign whilst you adjust the settings. other than that or a conneciton issue.. i dunno
[03:15] <s4mmy> #join kawanua
[03:15] <IdleOne> s4mmy: /join #
[03:15] <Delta> everytime I start ubuntu I get some messeges saying some files (that arent on the ubuntu partition) are named incorrectly and it renames them....how can I stop that?
[03:16] <Crim> i heard of a prgram that will allow ubuntu to write to NTFS partitions, any one know bout this?
[03:16] <ompaul> Delta, can you give a more precise message?
[03:16] <IdleOne> !ntfs-3g
[03:16] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:16] <bryanl> anyone here ever installed ubuntu on their mac book pro
[03:16] <linux4me> anyone here run lvs using ubuntu fiesty?
[03:17] <kronos> praet: but can't the messages be stopped ? I was more interested from cron.
[03:18] <Hadeshorn> Hey party people
[03:18] <Hadeshorn> Anyone know the deal about the new ATI linux drivers?
[03:18] <IdleOne> !ati | Hadeshorn
[03:18] <ubotu> Hadeshorn: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:18] <praet> kronos: check your [crontab -e]  then :)
[03:19] <Crim> so 7.04 can do this automaticly?
[03:19] <Hadeshorn> Thanks Idleone
[03:19] <Pici> Crim: Read  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:19] <adac> !vncserver
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vncserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <ompaul> !vnc
[03:19] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[03:19] <IdleOne> Crim: 7.10 will  but not 7.04
[03:19] <Crim> i am but im a lil groggy, just woke up *yawns*
[03:20] <CrowJake> rebooting, cya soon all
[03:20] <IdleOne> Crim: get a coffee :)