[00:24] <iToast> WHY IS #xubuntu always dead -_-"
[00:25] <wxl> iToast: not having been there in about 50,000 hears, no idea XD
[00:25] <iToast> lol
[00:25] <wxl> uh s/hears/years/
[00:25] <iToast> Look what I just got
 !patience | iToast
 iToast: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
 iToast, and? it doesn't warrant being impatient
[00:26] <wxl> again, i can't offer you help with other people, though perhaps i could refer you to your local buddhist temple or something. :)
 !patience | iToast
 iToast: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[00:27] <iToast> I'm downloading lubuntu.
[00:27] <wxl> you go girl
[00:27] <wxl> but
[00:27] <wxl> not for the xbmc right?
[00:27] <iToast> im a guy
[00:27] <iToast> >:o
[00:27] <iToast> wxl, for xbmc
[00:27] <wxl> i didn't mean to imply that you weren't but trying to use a colloquialism
[00:27] <wxl> nevermind
[00:27] <wxl> anywho
 oh, someone already did that :P
 iToast: should be pretty simple, add xbmc to startup applications and turn on auto login
[00:27] <wxl> i'm still not convinced xbmc NEEDS x
[00:27] <iToast> it does
[00:27] <wxl> ok, i believe you
[00:28] <iToast> "could not connect to x serv"...
[00:28] <wxl> then i would suggest doing the mini install
[00:28] <iToast> I had xorg installed with lightdm
[00:28] <wxl> just install lubuntu-core
[00:28] <wxl> you won't get all the extra apps and crap
[00:28] <iToast> I have to wait for lubuntu to download
[00:28] <iToast> so for now im trying xubuntu
[00:31] <iToast> Hopefully I wont have to jump to lubuntu (no offence)
[00:31] <iToast> because I really dont want to sue all my dvds...
[00:31] <iToast> This machine claims to have USB booting but I doubt it...
[00:31] <wxl> you need dvdrws
[00:31] <iToast> no.
[00:31] <iToast> I gave RW's a try, they are the devils child.
[00:31] <wxl> :)
[00:31] <iToast> I burned some dvds with DO NOT FINALIZE ON!
[00:31] <iToast> WHat happened?
[00:31] <iToast> Didnt say it but
[00:32] <iToast> "Finalizing"
[00:32] <iToast> Go to erase, "Can not erase finalized disk".
[00:32] <iToast>  That developer oves me $5.
[00:32] <iToast> >:C
[00:32] <iToast> My comment about how it scerwed me out of a rw disk got removed from the blog
[00:32] <iToast> His software got replaced with infrarecorder.
[00:41] <bioterror> wxl, xbmc can be run as "wm"
[00:41] <bioterror> so it does need X11, but it doesnt need a WM
[05:06] <foolinsd> evening
[05:07] <foolinsd> curious if anyone has seen issue with quantal after updating last night.  i'm now getting a black screen after the splash screen. kernel 3.5.0-15
[05:08] <foolinsd> i can boot to console, but not sure what to do next
[05:08] <foolinsd> i ran fsck and all the drives appear fine.
[05:12] <bioterror> foolinsd, from console: sudo service lightdm start
[05:22] <foolinsd> okay let me try
[05:28] <foolinsd> bioterror, i just get a flashing _ at the upper left corner of the screen
[05:30] <foolinsd> i'm going to try running apt-get update/upgrade via console
[05:31] <foolinsd> pls post any suggestions, i'll try them after the the update.  be back in 15m
[05:40] <foolinsd> bioterror, btw after starting lightdm, i can switch back to vt1 via ctrl+alt+F1
[05:48] <bioterror> that's good
[05:49] <bioterror> what if you instead of starting lxdm
[05:49] <bioterror> you say
[05:49] <bioterror> wait a sec
[05:50] <bioterror> xinit /usr/bin/startlubuntu
[05:50] <bioterror> if I remember right
[05:50] <bioterror> which startlubuntu
[05:50] <bioterror> if it wasnt correct
[05:51] <bioterror> I was away becouse I took my daughter to a day care club or something
[05:51] <bioterror> as a true hipster, I locked her bike to light pole with u-luck as she had lost her key during our move to new flat
[05:54] <foolinsd> okay will give that atry
[06:08] <foolinsd> sign looks like updating hosed the dpkg datebase
[06:08] <foolinsd> i'm booting to a "callback trace"
[06:08] <foolinsd> looks like a dump
[06:08] <foolinsd> will try reinstalling quantal
[06:08] <foolinsd> thanks for your suggestions bioterror
[06:14] <bioterror> reinstalling is cheating with the developement releases!
[06:19] <foolinsd> smack head
[06:19] <foolinsd> i'm open to suggestions
[06:26] <foolinsd> bioterror, i tried xinit /usr/bin/startlubuntu
[06:26] <foolinsd> it gave a fatal server error
[06:26] <foolinsd> no screen found
[08:44] <bzb> I'm trying to modify things so that when I click on an audio/video file, the console version of mplayer will be invoked to open the file instead of the gnome-mplayer.
[08:44] <bzb> The problem is that when an audio/video file contains spaces or non-english characters, the console mplayer just closes and does nothing.
[08:44] <bzb> More details at http://pastebin.com/TQxanMUC
[08:47] <bzb> I don't know if this problem also applies to ubuntu?
[08:51] <bioterror> hmmm
[08:51] <bioterror> when press mouse button #2 on a video file
[08:51] <bioterror> and you choose properties
[08:52] <bioterror> you should be able to change gnome-mplayer to just plain mplayer
[08:53] <bioterror> http://ricecows.org/mplayer.desktop that's how my mplayer.desktop looks like
[09:01] <silverarrow> is there a way for the F12 button to work as it should? it should eject cd on this laptop
[09:01] <silverarrow> are you talking to your self bioterror ?
[09:02] <bioterror> silverarrow, you can bind it to eject if youw ant
[09:02] <bioterror> bind F12 with "eject" command
[09:02] <silverarrow> great,
[09:02] <silverarrow> I just need to figure out how
[09:02] <bzb> bioterror: i changed my mplayer parameter from %U to %F and it works.  Thanks
[09:03] <bioterror> bzb, you're welcome
[09:03] <silverarrow> I have this odd issue with brassero, it will not eject cd after iso burn
[09:03] <bioterror> another satisfied customer!
[09:04] <silverarrow> it`s nice when things work
[09:04] <silverarrow> ;-)
[09:04] <bioterror> silverarrow, I've mostly used "xfburn"
[09:04] <silverarrow> diskutility or reboot is the only thing that allows to eject cd
[09:04] <silverarrow> xfburn crashes instantly here
[09:05] <silverarrow> luckily brassero behaves
[09:36] <silverarrow> at the moment F12 does the same as a double finger click
[09:36] <silverarrow> it should eject cd
[13:51] <leszek> hi
[13:54] <bioterror> howdy
[13:58] <silverarrow> hi
[13:59] <silverarrow> do you know how to set up F12 function on an iBook ?
[13:59] <silverarrow> it should eject cd/dvd
[13:59] <bioterror> and the command eject does not work?
[14:00] <silverarrow> I haven`t tired it from terminal
[14:00]  * silverarrow launches terminal
[14:00]  * bioterror rolls eyes
[14:00] <silverarrow> sorry lol
[14:01] <silverarrow> it ejects
[14:01] <bioterror> Fri12:02 <bioterror> silverarrow, you can bind it to eject if youw ant
[14:01] <bioterror> Fri12:02 <bioterror> bind F12 with "eject" command
[14:01] <bioterror> I said that 5 hours ago
[14:01] <bioterror> exactly 5 hours
[14:01] <silverarrow> I use eject from disk utility, but a bit cumbersome
[14:02] <bioterror> ? :D
[14:03] <bioterror> hmmm
[14:03] <silverarrow> yeah, after burning iso in brasero regualar eject from file manager doesn`t work
[14:03] <bioterror> it ejects
[14:03] <silverarrow> but I never thought of using the command in terminal
[14:04] <silverarrow> no, there is an eject function in brasero, but it sort of locks up
[14:04] <bioterror> probably
[14:04] <bioterror> but now my Openbox ejects from F12
[14:05] <silverarrow> and cd does not show in filemanager either then
[14:05] <bioterror> I could bind alt+f12 to close the tray
[14:05] <silverarrow> cool
[14:05] <silverarrow> on the ibook keyboard that is the reguala cd eject function
[14:06] <bioterror> in OS X
[14:06] <silverarrow> true
[14:06] <silverarrow> and keyboard icon
[14:06] <bioterror> I've owned a mac
[14:06] <silverarrow> it is nice to set it up to work,
[14:07] <silverarrow> yeah, macbook pros still are like that
[14:08] <silverarrow> cd/dvd insert is only a slim slot, and not a case to open
[14:08] <silverarrow> even on the old ppc
[14:09] <bioterror> my super drive was a regular DVD-RW ;)
[14:10] <silverarrow> rw functions are dvd rom specific or software run?
[15:31] <JohnDoe_71Rus> hi
[15:32] <silverarrow> hi
[15:32] <JohnDoe_71Rus> Howto use bluetooth headset ?
[15:34] <silverarrow> hmm, you might have to activate buletooth
[15:34] <silverarrow> let me check
[15:35] <silverarrow> I think it should be there by default
[15:36] <JohnDoe_71Rus> ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)    BT-503 headset
[15:36] <silverarrow> it doesn`t detect at all?
[15:36] <JohnDoe_71Rus> device paired
[15:36] <silverarrow> a usb unit ?
[15:37] <JohnDoe_71Rus> audiosinc is enabled. i hear ssound beep
[15:37] <silverarrow> I think the manager is called blueman
[15:37] <JohnDoe_71Rus> but can't moved sound to headset
[15:38] <silverarrow> I don`t have bluetooth on my lubuntu laptop unfortunately
[15:39] <silverarrow> stick around I`m sure someone can help
[15:39] <JohnDoe_71Rus> http://postimage.org/image/gzexlbzb5/
[15:39] <silverarrow> you could also try ubuntu channel if activity is slow here
[15:40] <silverarrow> yes there it is
[15:40] <JohnDoe_71Rus> in ubuntu it must work with pulseaudio. ilubuntu does not  pulse
[15:40] <silverarrow> I actually have a buletooth device some where
[15:41] <silverarrow> settings in alsamixer should not affect bluetooth ?
[15:41] <silverarrow> but it is contact with headset which is main issue
[15:43] <silverarrow> found my bluetooth device
[15:43] <silverarrow> light blinking
[15:44] <silverarrow> nothing happens
[15:46] <silverarrow> blueman does not launch from terminal either
[15:46] <silverarrow> JohnDoe_71Rus, did you install blueman manually?
[15:46] <JohnDoe_71Rus> lubuntu12.04 i start from menu
[15:46] <silverarrow> it should be there by default I think
[15:47] <silverarrow> I`m on 12.04 too
[15:47] <silverarrow> maybe some ppc weirdness
[15:47] <silverarrow> I`m on an old iBook
[15:50] <silverarrow> sorry, I`m no help to you
[15:50] <JohnDoe_71Rus> may be some one
[20:27] <silverarrow> is there a way for me to check  which graphics drivers I have in 12.04?
[20:34] <holstein> silverarrow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1795372
[20:44] <kanliot> i'm using screen or tmux, why can't i scrollback with shift+pageup?  because it's not a terminal?
[20:44] <holstein> kanliot: i can in screen, with just page-up
[20:45] <kanliot> here it just flashes screen
[20:46] <kanliot> er flashes the terminal window
[20:46] <holstein> kanliot: can you do it without screen?
[20:47] <kanliot> ya
[20:47] <kanliot> shift+pageup
[20:48] <holstein> kanliot: why shift?
[20:48] <kanliot> is there another way?
[20:48] <kanliot> control+b then [
[20:49] <kanliot> in screen
[20:49] <holstein> kanliot: i just use page up in irssi.. i guess it depends on what you are trying to scroll on
[20:54] <holstein> kanliot: i cant get that to "pass through" to screen either
[20:55] <holstein> http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2008/01/how-to-scroll-in-gnu-screen/ has a work-around
[22:25] <Matriks404> hello i installed lubuntu-desktop, and its for me better than unity, :D


[01:37] <Brownout> something is changed about browser.tabs.loadDivertedInBackground, the reference says that "Setting this preference to True will still bring the browser to the front when opening links from outside the browser", this is not the case anymore with ff4b8
[05:19] <eric> yo
[05:19] <eric> happy new year y'all
[05:20] <LLStarks> btw, is the natty seed firefox version gonna be updated?
[15:11] <bdrung> when will the plugin interface be stable for ff 4.0?
[15:11] <bdrung> s/plugin/extension/
[15:12] <bdrung> i.e. when can i update the max version of an extension to "4.0.*"?
[15:36] <chrisccoulson> bdrung - there's not an extension interface per se, so it's not really possible to answer your question
[15:37] <bdrung> chrisccoulson: IIRC they wanted to have one release where they recommend extension developers to update their extensions
[15:37] <chrisccoulson> that was b7
[15:38] <chrisccoulson> i guess it depends on whether your extension is using binary interfaces or not
[15:38] <chrisccoulson> i'm finding binary components that worked against b7, crash b8
[15:38] <chrisccoulson> i think the safe option is to not set maxversion to 4.0.* until it it stable ;)
[15:39] <chrisccoulson> i set ubufox to 4.0b9pre
[15:47] <bdrung> chrisccoulson: i was thinking about pwdhash - a small extension which doesn't use the binary interface
[21:47] <fta> hi, Happy New Year everyone!
[22:26] <chrisccoulson> happy new year fta!
[22:31] <BUGabundo> fta: #FEAR... I just saw chormium autologin into a page *while* I typed the URL
[22:41] <fta> BUGabundo, maybe it's getting smarter ;)


[00:08] <prefrontal> Pici, just discovered the problem was that on the lucid to maverick upgrade grub wasn't updated to grub-pc, or in other words, i had grub and not grub 2
[00:09] <prefrontal> installing grub-pc magically fixed it..
[00:33] <rosco_y> Can I recursively set directory permissions to 774 and file permission to 664 in a single command?
[00:33] <rosco_y> or do I need to learn some scripting to do this?
[00:33] <rosco_y> (or write a program)
[00:37] <Guest39387> #ubuntu-es
[01:13] <Daskreech> rosco_y: Yes you can
[01:13] <Daskreech> and technically yes it is scripting
[01:14] <james147> Daskreech: ^^ or jsut two find commands :)
[01:14] <Daskreech> james147: Which technically is scripting :)
[01:15] <james147> in the strictest sense...
[03:24] <waqar-malik> helloo everyone
[03:24] <waqar-malik> any one here
[03:24] <Daxar> I'm not here.
[03:24] <waqar-malik> hi @Daxar
[03:25] <waqar-malik> how r u
[03:25] <Daxar> Doing good. Just a bit sleepy.
[03:25] <waqar-malik> okyy
[03:25] <waqar-malik> from where u r brother
[03:25] <Daxar> Finally found Alt-F2 and xkill, so now I can close my programs when they crash. :D
[03:26] <waqar-malik> okyyy
[03:26] <waqar-malik> brother
[03:26] <waqar-malik> mmmm
[03:26] <waqar-malik> do u want to earn money online
[03:26] <Daxar> No.
[03:26] <Daxar> I want to be poor and be a hobo for the rest of my life.
[03:27] <waqar-malik> ha ha ha
[03:27] <waqar-malik> brother there is a way to earn money online
[03:27] <valorie> waqar-malik: this is a support channel
[03:27] <waqar-malik> actually many ways
[03:27] <valorie> if you want to chat, please take it elsewhere
[03:27] <Daxar> No, seriously, I get enough spam already. Don't wanna hear it.
[03:28] <waqar-malik> its real actually
[03:28] <waqar-malik> not a spanm
[03:28] <valorie> spamming anywhere is not welcome
[03:28] <waqar-malik> it is working for me
[03:28] <valorie> please stop now
[03:28] <waqar-malik> @ valorie
[03:28] <waqar-malik> it is not a sppam
[03:28] <valorie> !ops
[03:28] <waqar-malik> i'm not spaming
[03:29] <valorie> again I will say: this is a support channel
[03:29] <waqar-malik> oky yar
[03:29] <valorie> ask for or offer support
[03:29] <waqar-malik> fine
[03:29] <valorie> or be quiet
[03:30] <yellowblue> !ops
[03:31] <waqar-malik> helloo any onw
[03:31] <waqar-malik> any one
[03:31] <waqar-malik> i want to share ma internet connection using wifi
[03:31] <waqar-malik> can anybody help in this regard
[03:32] <valorie> best way is to set a simple password, like: free
[03:32] <valorie> keeps you safer
[03:35]  * Daxar hates spam
[03:55] <FloridaGuy> can i make desktop settings...read from ....  /home/mike/wallpaper... insted of kde 4.6.0 default wallpaper folder ??
[03:57] <Daskreech> FloridaGuy: Umm. .. what?
[03:58] <valorie> you can set the folder in systemsettings
[03:58] <FloridaGuy> Daskreech, right click desktop...desktop settings...where you choose your desktop wallpapers.....insted of it reading from its default location...i was woundering if i could make it read from ..my owen wallpaper folder
[03:59] <valorie> yes
[03:59] <valorie> mine reads a folder in ~/Pictures/Desktop/
[04:00] <valorie> or something like that
[04:00] <FloridaGuy> valorie, where at in system settings
[04:00] <Daskreech> FloridaGuy: yes
[04:02] <valorie> looking
[04:02] <FloridaGuy> k
[04:03] <valorie> sorry, right-click the desktop
[04:03] <FloridaGuy> k
[04:03] <valorie> I thought you could do it either way, but I guess not
[04:05] <FloridaGuy> valorie, and then what
[04:06] <valorie> Desktop Settings
[04:06] <valorie> custom folders
[04:06] <valorie> and uncheck the others
[04:07] <FloridaGuy> valorie, i know that....i want desktop settings to read from my owen wallpaper folder...not kde's default spot
[04:08] <valorie> right, set the custom folder
[04:08] <valorie> and uncheck the others
[04:30] <nata> Filter sidebar in dolphine cannot use (in new user can). any idea?
[04:49] <cato37> i still cant get the theme greeter to work (change themes), but a more pertinent question is regarding the trash bin--empty trash button is greyed out and anything in the trash stays there. how do you reset the trash so it works?
[04:53] <nata> cato37: at dolphine menu bar there, settings/configure dolphine../trash tab, try and see
[04:57] <cato37> nata: thanx nata. i tried looking there, but there doesn't seem to be a way to enable the "empty trash" command from dolphin. it is greyed out, and the bin won't delete.
[04:57] <cato37> nata: *what is inside the bin won't delete.
[05:35] <Jackalope> i have some odd crap happening with kubuntu 10.10 when i hit my application launcher then over mouse games or something like that it wont show up sometimes
[05:37] <Jackalope> also the screen overlaps when using a web browser
[05:37] <Jackalope> any ideas?
[05:37] <Jackalope> this also happens in 10.04
[05:39] <george__> umm somebody here has any expirience with PC-BSD??
[05:40] <Jackalope> nope
[05:40] <george__> hmm, ill check another channel then
[05:40] <bazhang> george__, #pcbsd
[05:41] <george__> that channel's always quiet for some reason
[05:41] <george__> unlike the Ubuntu channel
[05:41] <Jackalope> ubuntu channel keeps going and going
[05:41] <bazhang> thats the channel for pc-bsd support
[05:42] <Jackalope> george, why are you using bsd?
[05:42] <Jackalope> for networking?
[05:42] <Jackalope> linux has a more stable kernel
[05:44] <Jackalope> i guess theres pros and cons about everything
[05:48] <Jackalope> is sleepy
[07:10] <aaditya_> hello
[07:10] <aaditya_> new to irc channel
[07:10] <aaditya_> :)
[07:14] <nata> aaditya_: any problem can directly ask if not will xxx by other :)
[07:15] <aaditya_> thanks
[07:15] <aaditya_> nata
[07:15] <aaditya_> lets tell me can we make our own customization disk of running ubuntu
[07:16] <nata> aaditya_: can. got software can custom edit the ubuntu disk
[07:24] <aaditya_> can I ue UCK for customization
[07:25] <nata> aaditya_: friend, i already forget the software, mayb other can help you
[07:26] <noaXess> good morning
[07:26] <noaXess> on a kernel update, dkms autoinstall failed in some reasons.. i have fixed it, and now ant run dksm again, how?
[07:26] <noaXess> dkms ^
[07:27] <vee> hy all
[07:28] <vee> someone can help me??
[07:28] <noaXess> vee: .. we can't cause we don't know what problem you have ;)
[07:28] <vee> i need a mail client like mozilla thunderbird
[07:28] <vee> how can i get it for my kubuntu??
[07:28] <vee> i am newbie
[07:29] <noaXess> vee: kubuntu version? 10.10?
[07:29] <vee> yess.
[07:29] <aaditya_> hello ji\
[07:29] <Tm_T> !email
[07:29] <aaditya_> problem
[07:29] <noaXess> vee: then just install thunderbird from packagekit, packagemanager
[07:29] <vee> i just start using it about one week
[07:29] <aaditya_> how to convert rpm pacakge into debaina pacakage
[07:29] <vee> so i just search it on packagemanager??
[07:30] <noaXess> vee in kpackagekit, yes.. search for thunderbird..
[07:30] <vee> oke . .thank noaXess
[07:30] <aaditya_> hello
[07:30] <noaXess> vee: your welcome
[07:31] <vee> yup
[07:32] <vee> can i use ubuntu one on kubuntu??
[07:32] <noaXess> aaditya_: here is a method to convert rpm to deb.. but first, search if there is a ppa that have already the correct deb for you
[07:32] <nata> vee: can，just install at package manager
[07:33] <aaditya_> ok through package manager can I
[07:33] <aaditya_> ??/
[07:33] <vee> noaXess : i have see the fire effect in youtube. .how can i get the fire effect??
[07:33] <vee> i think its cool
[07:33] <aaditya_> packages.ubuntu.com
[07:33] <noaXess> vee: ??..
[07:34] <vee> ya??
[07:34] <vee>  i have see the fire effect in youtube. .how can i get the fire effect??
[07:35] <noaXess> bbs
[07:54] <noaXess> .. updated to latest kernel: Linux poseidon 2.6.35-27-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 11 22:52:49 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux, now i can't use opengl..
[07:58] <nata> noaXess: use back earlier version kernel lo
[07:59] <noaXess> nata: you mean... choose another kernel?
[08:00] <noaXess> i can enable xrender in effects.. but not opengl
[08:00] <nata> ya, <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:00] <noaXess> nvidia 260.19.06-0ubuntu1
[08:00] <nata> i don't know how to set
[08:01] <noaXess> hm..
[08:01] <nata> you can directly install "linux", it wil auto update stable version for you
[08:01] <nata> using synaptic
[08:02] <noaXess> nata: ?...
[08:09] <xman> hi  :) !
[08:09] <xman> i have a question
[08:13] <xman> exist any im program for ubuntu,kubuntu
[08:13] <xman> with yahoo messenger voice call suport
[08:14] <xman> ???????????????????
[08:14] <xman>  :)
[08:14] <xman> ?
[08:14] <xman> ?
[08:16] <ventti> kopete does video
[08:16] <ventti> or u mean like skype to call telephones?
[08:17] <xman> i know kopete has video support
[08:17] <ventti> i didnt know that you knew that
[08:18] <xman> and gyache webcam work great
[08:18] <nata> ventti: kopete can detect my webcam but cannot use to video call. any idea?
[08:18] <xman> but i want say voice call using yahoo protocol
[08:19] <xman> use gyache work great for webcam
[08:19] <nata> xman: what is gyache?
[08:19] <ventti> hey nata  -  sorry no. i see it detects my cam (built in to laptop) but i have not yet used it. xman - ok i understand now... by u could try kopete
[08:20] <ventti> it works with many IM protocols
[08:20] <xman> gyache is yahoo messenger for linux
[08:21] <xman> with webcam support
[08:21] <nata> I'm using msn...i know only kopete support video call
[08:22] <xman> kopete suport only webcam on yahoo
[08:22] <nata> everytime need video call i need to change back windows. very trouble
[08:23] <nata> no wonder i use kopete in msn cannot video call
[08:23] <xman> yes this is am problem for linux
[08:23] <nata> holy xxxx ！
[08:24] <xman> i know amsn support videovcall on msn
[08:24] <nata> i test before. cannot
[08:24] <nata> but din't try for yahoo
[08:25] <xman> so not exist any im propgram with yahoo voice call suport?
[08:28] <nata> u got try tele what ty program or not?
[08:39] <noaXess> grr.. have changed to 2.6.35-25 but opengl won't work.. grr..
[08:43] <xman> kopete works on gnome?
[08:45] <nata> xman: work, but it will install some kde lib to your computer
[08:46] <nata> noaXess: your linux before that can use openGL or not?
[08:49] <noaXess> nata: it worked before
[08:49] <nata> noaXess: you can try close your desktop effect 1st and check the "Disable functionality checks" on advanced tab
[08:49] <nata> then changes back to openGL
[08:58] <noaXess> grrrr.
[08:59] <noaXess> nata??
[08:59] <noaXess> Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values.  Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type.
[09:00] <noaXess> why can't i use opengl? where can i get more information about the error?
[09:15] <noaXess> got. it.. found a setting in kwinrc under: ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc -> OpenGLIsUnsafe=true set to OpenGLIsUnsafe=false
[09:16] <noaXess> and opengl works now.. don't know why this settings has changed..
[09:47] <ventti> noaXess you still here?
[09:47] <noaXess> ventti: shure ;)
[09:47] <ventti> :)
[09:48] <ventti> am using kubu 10.10 64 bit at the moment... alway, after i set desktop effects to be ON, they turn off and need to be turned on again using shift alt F12...
[09:48] <ventti> will your fix that you mentioned above perhaps fix this?
[09:49] <ventti> i played with this earlier and at one stage could not get openGL to stay on at all - it would not be saved from the drop down menu in the desktop effects...
[09:49] <ventti> ...
[09:49] <ventti> the fix for this was...
[09:50] <ventti> i think... ;-) ...
[09:50] <ventti> deleting the same file, logging off and back on and allowing a fresh file to be created
[09:50] <ventti> but...
[09:50] <ventti> it might have been another config-type file
[09:50] <ventti> sorry - cannot remeber 100 %
[09:51] <ventti> so...
[09:51] <ventti> changing that setting in kwinrc will perhaps stop my desktop effects from turningoff all the time??
[09:51] <ventti> TY :)
[09:55] <ventti> Yes...
[09:56] <ventti> I am in the config folder now - the kwinrc file was the one i deleted and allowed to be re-created in order to allow open GL to be used
[09:56] <ventti> nano kwinrc
[09:56] <ventti> lol oops
[09:58] <ventti> brb - relogging
[10:03] <ventti> OK... :)
[10:04] <ventti> changing that parameter from true to false did not have the desired effect...
[10:04] <ventti> ... all it did for me was empty completely the list of the individual desktop effects, however....
[10:05] <ventti> ...
[10:05] <ventti> i had a thought regarding something i had seen a few days ago...
[10:06] <ventti> that the issue of desktop effects turning off could be dealt with by disabling functionality checks on the Advanced tab....
[10:06] <ventti> i tried this before but it did not work - perhaps i needed fresh kwinrc file first...
[10:07] <ventti> any way i just disabled functionality checks and it appears that desktop effects now remain turned on
[10:07] <ventti> :)
[10:08] <ventti> Now - i fixed another issue yesterday as well regarding the thousands of thumbnails stored in the .thumbnails folder under /home/user ...
[10:08] <ventti> Anyone want to hear about that? :)
[10:08] <noaXess> ventti: worry.. was away ;)..
[10:08] <noaXess> maybe try to do what i have done.. maybe it helps
[10:08] <noaXess> sorry ^
[10:08] <ventti> lol - nomproblem - its all above :)
[10:09] <ventti> no problem *
[10:09] <noaXess> ok
[10:10] <ventti> yesterday here people were complaining about the .thumbnails folder - this is an easy fix - i will talk about it if anyone wants me to :;)
[10:24] <noaXess> ventti: a lot of people here.. but all are working ;)
[10:25] <ventti> no problem :)
[10:26] <ventti> its been 15 mins and my desktop effects are still working ;-)
[10:27] <noaXess> ventti: gratulation ;).. hey o you work with ff?
[10:27] <ventti> ff? firefox?
[10:27] <noaXess> jep
[10:27] <ventti> u mean i use the browser?
[10:28] <ventti> and not that i work for the company? :)
[10:28] <noaXess> ventti: you work with ff... use it as default browser ;)
[10:28] <ventti> yes to 1 and no to 2 :)
[10:28] <ventti> yes - this is what i use
[10:29] <noaXess> ventti: is ff fast on your installation? u have boosted my ff up to 60-90% faster
[10:29] <noaXess> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-firefox-slow-problem-in-ubuntu-10-04lucid.html
[10:29] <ventti> well, it seems fast enough but i have not made any adjustments to it, so i cannot compare it. OK - i will have a look at that now
[10:29] <ventti> TY
[10:30] <noaXess> ventti: nop
[10:30] <ventti> i take it all tbis is OK for kubuntu 10.10?
[10:30] <ventti> all this*
[10:30] <noaXess> ventti: jep.. i work on 10.10.. and works here too
[10:31] <ventti> yep - i just saw comments on page - someone there confirmed ok for 10.10
[10:31] <ventti> will make adjustments now :)
[10:32] <ventti> brb
[10:33] <ventti> OK to turn off ipv6, considering that the world has run out of v4 addresses? ;-))
[10:36] <ventti> definitely seems quicker - thanks noaXess
[10:36] <noaXess> ventti: yeah..
[12:12] <nescius> hello, are there any current/recent ppa for kontact?
[12:27] <vee> someone help me
[12:27] <vee> can u help me to install a fire effect desktop??
[12:28] <vee> i am a newbie
[13:35] <mantise> hi
[13:53] <FloridaGuy> is there a gui like mandriva has...that you open as root..that will allow you to shut down system services..??
[13:54] <HozsiNekedTesoka> Pici bryder hola!
[13:54] <HozsiNekedTesoka> OLA penguinfucker
[13:54] <HozsiNekedTesoka> ikonia bryder:ED
[13:54] <FloodBotK3> HozsiNekedTesoka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:57] <wedo> hello
[13:57] <Daskreech> hello
[13:58] <wedo> I need help with my hardware drivers please
[13:59] <wedo> I have updated to kubuntu 10.4 and now the wireless card and the keyboard and mouse do not work
[14:00] <wedo> I have toshiba laptop and I'm useing usb keyboard and mouse now
[14:00] <FloridaGuy> is there a gui like mandriva has...that you open as root..that will allow you to shut down system services..??????
[14:00] <wedo> its the first time to run the laptop after upgrading
[14:03] <wedo> help please
[14:03] <FloridaGuy> think everyone still asleep
[14:04] <wedo> i think so
[14:09] <Space_Man> FloridaGuy: I haven't looked for a long time, but I think there is a 'services' tab in the system settings
[14:11] <Space_Man> wedo: are your keyboard and mouse attached with wire? if they are wired, what happens when you plug them in or unplug, wait a short period of time and plug them back in?
[14:11] <Space_Man> maybe look at dmesg for any errors
[14:11] <wedo> Space_Man: its a laptop
[14:12] <Space_Man> open your konsole and type dmesg
[14:12] <waqar-malik> hello every one
[14:12] <Space_Man> wedo: some keyboards and mice are wireless and may need special drivers
[14:13] <wedo> Space_Man: its the integerated keyboard and mice also the wireless and sound card doesn't work
[14:14] <Space_Man> wow
[14:14] <DragonX> i am new to kubuntu
[14:14] <svenknoppix> hallo, I´ve trouble configuring the standard-programm to open sound (wav)-attachments in thunderbird. It is always using "esdplay" from which I can hear nothing. I can manually change to "/usr/bin/mplayer" But Ive to do this every time I want to open a wav-attachement ....
[14:14] <DragonX> :P
[14:15] <svenknoppix> (It is Kubuntu Lucid 10_04)
[14:15] <DragonX> my fb chat doesnt work well on kubuntu
[14:15] <DragonX> what should i do
[14:16] <Space_Man> wedo: I'm not much help with fixing your built in hardware, sorry
[14:16] <Space_Man> try google :(
[14:16] <wedo> thank you Space_Man
[14:27] <Guest14866> hi everybody
[14:27] <Guest14866> What is the best IDE for Java on ubuntu ???
[14:31] <Space_Man> Guest14866: possibly kdevelop, kate, kwrite or even quanta plus
[14:32] <Space_Man> if you are really using ubuntu then ask in #ubuntu
[14:32]  * Space_Man mutters about kubuntu
[14:40] <avihay> Guest14866: eclipse?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:46] <waqar-malik> hellloo everyboddyyy
[14:51] <martin___> Guest14866: idea
[14:58] <Guest14866> re avihay so u say eclipse why not netbeans ?
[15:00] <avihay> umm, I never really got to work with net-beans. eclipse is a n IDE writen in java, and made for java programing
[15:01] <avihay> oh, looks like netbans is too
[15:01] <avihay> beans*
[15:02] <Guest14866> ok thx
[15:03] <avihay> anyway, eclipse is slow and unstable
[15:04] <avihay> and has the best GDB integration I've seen
[15:04] <Guest14866> ok
[15:08] <dhiren> kubuntu !!
[15:09] <dhiren> any kde pro der?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> dhiren, dunno about pros , but if you ask your question we may be able to help
[15:54] <home> how to mount a drive in kubuntu by command line way
[15:57] <panne> home: as in every Linux-Distro, "sudo mount [-t <fs-type>] /dev/<drive> <mountpoint>"
[15:58] <panne> home: (sudo only if you're not already root user)
[17:24] <rtdos> what changes are in store for kubuntu 11.04 ? i know about the changes in Ubuntu 11.04 but what about Kubuntu 11.04 ?
[17:29] <BluesKaj> rtdos, go ask in #ubuntu+1
[17:30] <DarthFrog> That's an interesting question.  Would be nice to find out. :-)
[17:30] <shane4ubuntu> ok, I want to be able to lock my screen after like 1 hour of in-activity, and have the screen saver kick on after about 7-10 minutes, any way of doing that?
[17:30] <DarthFrog> shane4ubuntu: Yes.  Poke around in SystemSettings.
[17:31] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, I already tried 11.04 , not ready for the likes of me even with kde4.6
[17:31] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: Well, it's still only an alpha.
[17:31] <BluesKaj> yup
[17:32] <shane4ubuntu> DarthFrog: in the system settings - Monitor - Screensaver it is unclear, I have Start the screen saver after 7 minutes, and they require password after 300 seconds, which is the max setting.  isn't 300 seconds like 10 minutes? or is it 5
[17:32] <DarthFrog> Interesting decision, though, to not have a release candidate for Natty.
[17:32] <shane4ubuntu> is that 300 seconds after the screen saver kicks in?
[17:32] <DarthFrog> 300 seconds is 5 minutes.
[17:32] <shane4ubuntu> ohh, right, 10 x 60 = 600. :)
[17:32] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, and badly broken atm , from most reports ...the guys at #ubuntu+1 are conspicuous by their absence when anyone asks for help
[17:34] <shane4ubuntu> I like the screen locking option, for when I really leave, but it is bothersome in the day for such short times.  Perhaps there is a lock button, app or something?
[17:34] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: Personally, I'd rather they work on the release than provide tech support.  If you're willing to run alpha software, you should be able to provide your own tech support and file bug reports.  Bug reports are what the devs want from folks.
[17:35] <shane4ubuntu> hmm, lock is a leaving option, I will have to shortcut that to make is simple
[17:35] <DarthFrog> Tech support is provided by guys like us. :-)
[17:35] <yofel> shane4ubuntu: ctrl+alt+l should be default for lock screen
[17:36] <shane4ubuntu> yofel: ahh, ok, thanks!
[17:36] <yofel> for some reason it's in the run command interface shortcut settings
[17:36] <shane4ubuntu> slick!  thanks yofel, I also put the lock button right beside my menu, I will have to see what I use more, thanks
[17:37] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, agreed but the warnings should be more clear about the didaster thats about befall if one lets Xorg upgrade
[17:37] <BluesKaj> :)
[17:37] <shane4ubuntu> yofel: is that in the keyboard shortcuts section?
[17:38] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: Well, I'm sure that we've both graduated from the School of Hard Knocks. :-)
[17:38] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: Besides, you learn best when you have to fix your own problems.
[17:38] <yofel> shane4ubuntu: yes, under global keyboard shortcuts
[17:39] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, but this is the worst mess i've seen so far
[17:39] <shane4ubuntu> yofel: thanks!  I changed it to scroll lock since I never use that button and it says lock, should be able to remember that.
[17:41] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, for me at least ...normally i can figure something out , but this one was beyond my scope
[17:43] <no_molestar> hola.. es mi primera vez con el irc, no quisiera despancienciarles con algo
[17:43] <no_molestar> asi que disculpen si es que no me dirijo como se debe
[17:50] <barraponto> no_molestar: don't speak spanish in a english-speaking room
[17:51] <barraponto> no_molestar: check if there is a kubuntu-es channel or local chat rooms (like kubuntu-ar or kubuntu-peru)
[17:51] <barraponto> no_molestar: although you should just drop your questions here, in english, if possible.
[17:52] <no_molestar> no_molestar: gracias barrapunto... voy a intentar mudarme a un canal español
[17:57] <ct529> I am trying to recompile the kernel using the instructions inhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile and http://blog.avirtualhome.com/2010/11/06/how-to-compile-a-ubuntu-10-10-maverick-kernel/ , but I am finding difficult to define the correct parameters for my CPU
[17:57] <ct529> anyone who can help?
[18:08] <yofel> ct529: I haven't build a kernel in a long time, but what kind of CPU do you have?
[18:08] <yofel> (and why do you want to build your own kernel?)
[18:16] <ct529> yofel: Pentium Extreme X7900
[18:17] <yofel> ct529: what options do you need?
[18:18] <ct529> yofel: I wanted to recompile --march=native -O3 to have maximum performance
[18:18] <hajji> hi
[18:19] <yofel> ct529: I fear I don't know how to set that :/
[18:19] <shane4ubuntu> ok, why is it my screen saver comes up, or I think it does and the screen goes black when I have it set to pictures??
[18:20] <ct529> yofel: they are compiler's flags
[18:21] <yofel> I know, I just don't know where you need to set them
[18:21] <shane4ubuntu> ahh, power management!  got it.
[18:22] <ct529> yofel: me neither
[18:23] <shane4ubuntu> ahh, yofel in power management I can also set it to lock screen after x amount of time, that is more what I wanted
[18:23] <yofel> shane4ubuntu: ah, the settings for that are all over the place, so I wasn't sure what to suggest...
[18:24] <shane4ubuntu> right, understood, I just stumbled across them, so I'm good now, screen saver in 7min and screen lock after 1.5 hour
[19:33] <DarthFrog> ct529: It's been a very long time since I've compiled a kernel but as I recall, the compiler optimisation flags were set in a GCC config file, i.e. not in the kernel compile config.
[19:34] <DarthFrog> ct529: So "man gcc" will likely be your friend.  Or "info gcc".
[19:34] <ct529> DarthFrog: mmmm .... it does not seem to be like that
[19:35] <DarthFrog> As I said, it's been a very long time. :-)
[19:35] <ct529> DarthFrog: thanks for your hint though .... :-)
[19:36] <ct529> DarthFrog: I just wanted to see if there was any increment in performance
[19:37] <DarthFrog> I rather suspect that any performance increase will be minimal and probably not worth the hassle.  But I'll be interested to hear what you find out.
[19:38] <ct529> DarthFrog: it is for some simulations
[19:39] <ct529> DarthFrog: I needed maximum performance
[19:39] <Daskreech> ct529: CLI for life!
[19:39] <DarthFrog> ct529: I will be very interested to hear from you what the performance difference will be.
[19:42] <ct529> DarthFrog: I will let you know!
[19:42] <ct529> Have a nice evening ....
[19:42] <BluesKaj> splitsville!
[20:32] <alvaro> buenas sala
[20:32] <alvaro> sabeis como me puedo meter al chat hispano?
[20:33] <alvaro> desde aqui
[20:33] <genii-around> !es
[20:33] <alvaro> pero aun asi
[20:33] <alvaro> lo he intentado
[20:33] <alvaro> y no puedo
[20:33] <alvaro> lo siento hablar en español
[20:33] <FloodBotK3> alvaro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:33] <alvaro> pero es que en ingles no se me da bien
[20:35] <alvaro> please i need help
[20:45] <mgn> Hello
[20:47] <malik_> any one here who uses east asian languages to speak or writw
[20:52] <SDemonUA_> Can somone help me to enable java script support in NetBeans (KUbuntu 10.10)?
[20:53] <malik_> hellow anyone from an east asin country
[21:04] <Jackalope_>  i have some odd crap happening with kubuntu 10.10 when i hit my application launcher then over mouse games or something like that it wont show up sometimes
[21:04] <Jackalope_> also the screen overlaps when using a web browser
[21:08] <aljadidi> bonjour  otut
[21:08] <aljadidi> tout
[21:08] <Pici> !fr
[21:08] <aljadidi> et tpous
[21:51] <Daskreech> malik_: Which country?
[21:51] <Daskreech> Jackalope_: What overlaps? the menu?
[21:56] <Jackalope_> no when like im on a applcation the involes scrolling
[21:56] <Jackalope_> application *
[21:57] <Jackalope_> i have a feeling these problems are related
[21:59] <Jackalope_> Daskreech i wasnt paying attention
[21:59] <Jackalope_> didnt know that someone reply
[22:00] <Daskreech> Jackalope_: are you using the default application menu or another one?
[22:00] <Jackalope_> dont know
[22:01] <Jackalope_> dash, the normal one i think
[22:01] <Jackalope_> i never changed it
[22:02] <Jackalope_> have you ever heard of a problem like this?
[22:02] <Jackalope_> i never have
[22:03] <Daskreech> Jackalope_: not really but I'm having a hard problem imagining it
[22:04] <Daskreech> can you right click the application and click on Classic menu
[22:04] <Jackalope_> k
[22:04] <Daskreech> let me know if it still happen
[22:04] <Pewt> hi, how can I fix the amarok problem, where the ipod aprears with 0 tracks (but it is not empty).
[22:04] <Daskreech> s
[22:04] <Jackalope_> oh im on classic menu
[22:04] <Jackalope_> i prefer it
[22:04] <Jackalope_> lol
[22:05] <bjornmchugh> kuku
[22:06] <bjornmchugh> i am finally here
[23:08] <Jackalope_> i have some odd crap happening with kubuntu 10.10 when i hit my application launcher then over mouse games or something like that it wont show up sometimes
[23:09] <Jackalope_> also the screen overlaps when using a application the involves scrolling
[23:09] <Jackalope_> that*
[23:09] <Jackalope_> thanks
[23:20] <Daskreech> Jackalope_: Can You click and it shows up?
[23:20] <Jackalope_> if i redo it it does
[23:22] <Jackalope_> do have any ideas?
[23:48] <Jackalope_>  i have some odd crap happening with kubuntu 10.10 when i hit my application launcher then over mouse games or something like that it wont show up sometimes
[23:48] <Jackalope_> also the screen overlaps when using a application that involves scrolling


[06:18] <mgedmin> how can I change my $PATH for a Wayland session?
[06:21] <mgedmin> heyyy, Alt-F2 r is "not available on Wayland"!  how can I ask gnome-shell to re-load .desktop files after I eddit the path in Exec=... ?
[06:38] <mgedmin> back to X and now chromium fails to render anything inside any browser tab
[06:47] <mgedmin> fixed by restarting chromium
[12:50] <mgedmin> ha ha my keyboard layout reset to us for no reason
[17:35] <ltallen_> Hi, is anyone online right now?


[12:19] <shadeslayer> hey, can you tell me if Launchpad's arm64 builders are somehow specially configured for large memory allocations when building armhf packages?
[12:36] <cjwatson> shadeslayer: probably depends on exactly what you mean, but they have a modified kernel built with CONFIG_ARM64_VA_BITS=48: https://git.launchpad.net/~wgrant/ubuntu/+source/linux/log/?h=arm64-va-39
[12:37] <shadeslayer> cjwatson: well my cross build on a arm64 machine still fails when ld fails to allocate enough memory
[12:37] <shadeslayer> 00:29:28.719 /usr/bin/ld.gold: fatal error: libQt5WebEngineCore.so.5.7.1: mmap: failed to allocate<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes for output file: Cannot allocate memory
[12:37] <shadeslayer> which is a bit odd since the machine has 128 GB's of memory
[12:37] <cjwatson> don't know more, sorry
[12:37] <shadeslayer> ok :)
[12:37] <shadeslayer> perhaps someone else in the channel will :)
[12:38] <shadeslayer> someone suggested I bump nr_hugepages to 20
[12:38] <shadeslayer> which I've done now to see if it helps
[12:39] <cjwatson> we aren't doing anything like that AFAIK.  The only other specialised arm64ish thing I'm aware of is that we boot the VMs with compat_uts_machine=armv7l (modulo typos, I don't have the current config file to hand).
[12:42] <wgrant> shadeslayer: As Colin says, are kernels are stock xenial plus the patch to unbreak Qt (CONFIG_ARM64_VA_BITS=39, which also reduces the number of page table levels)
[12:42] <wgrant> We've done nothing special to increase address space sizes -- in fact we've shrunk the 64-bit ones.
[12:42] <shadeslayer> aha
[12:43] <shadeslayer> I have CONFIG_ARM64_VA_BITS=48
[12:43] <cjwatson> Yeah, 39, sorry, I misread the git log.
[12:43] <wgrant> That's the default, yeah. It breaks old Qts because they expect to tag their pointers up at like bit 42.
[12:43] <shadeslayer> I see
[12:44] <wgrant> It usually manifests as Qt apps segfaulting, not what you're seeing.
[12:44] <shadeslayer> old qt?
[12:44] <cjwatson> Apparently fixes for that are trickling through to things we might get in updates, so hopefully we can ditch that patch eventually.
[12:44] <wgrant> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-54822
[12:44] <shadeslayer> tyvm :D
[12:44] <wgrant> But should be totally unrelated.
[12:45] <shadeslayer> right, that's at runtime, but good to know
[12:45] <shadeslayer> I'm more curious about the link failiure
[12:46] <cjwatson> I mean in a 32-bit address space it doesn't necessarily matter how much physical memory you have.
[12:46] <cjwatson> but I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "cross build".
[12:46] <cjwatson> LP doesn't do cross builds.
[12:47] <shadeslayer> oh this isn't on LP
[12:47] <shadeslayer> cjwatson: but then how do you build qtwebengine?
[12:47] <shadeslayer> because afaict https://launchpadlibrarian.net/308759960/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-armhf.qtwebengine-opensource-src_5.7.1+dfsg-6build1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[12:47] <shadeslayer> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/308759960/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-armhf.qtwebengine-opensource-src_5.7.1+dfsg-6build1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[12:47] <shadeslayer> er
[12:47] <shadeslayer> Kernel version: Linux bos01-arm64-005 4.4.0-64-generic #85+buildd1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 22 12:26:21 UTC 2017 aarch64
[12:48] <cjwatson> we build in an armhf chroot rather than cross-building.
[12:49] <cjwatson> cross-building usually refers to building with tools from one architecture but generating code to run on another.
[12:49] <cjwatson> in this case we're using armhf throughout, but in a chroot running atop an arm64 base system (and kernel).
[12:50] <shadeslayer> ah ok, that's what I'm doing too, armhf docker container ontop of a arm64 one
[12:50] <shadeslayer> *arm64 host
[13:53] <shadeslayer> it's a bit odd that it compiles just fine on Launchpad but not on my machine
[14:34] <shadeslayer> cjwatson: wgrant JFYI apparently Debian ships the patch to Qt for this
[14:35] <shadeslayer> so maybe you don't need that anymore?
[14:35] <cjwatson> it's making progress, but it needs to be in all series etc.
[14:35] <shadeslayer> *that config option
[14:35] <cjwatson> I think Mirv is looking after that on our side
[14:36] <shadeslayer> ah ok :)
[16:54] <Mc> hi
[16:55] <Mc> just to signal that bots have started posting comments to bug reports that they did not open themselves (i don't recall that happening before in bugs.lp)
[16:55] <Mc> https://launchpad.net/~pop62
[17:00] <Guest949> Launchpad down?
[17:01] <cjwatson> Guest949: it looks OK from here and our graphs seem fine
[17:01] <Guest949> Just came back.
[17:02] <Guest949> I got several "Something went wrong, check twitter or freenode IRC" errors in a row before it came back.
[17:02] <Guest949> i.e., the problem clearly wasn't on my end with my network, given that I got the launchpad error page in my browser.
[17:05] <cjwatson> Mc: doing some cleanup, thanks
[17:08] <Mc> thanks :)
[18:35] <Mc> I'm losing the battle on lp answers spam
[18:36] <Mc> I can find no regexes for my procmailrc to filter out that new spam that asks questions similar to real ones
[18:36] <Mc> It's just too similar to real questions


[00:00] <InSearchOf> plars, did this weeks meeting get canceled earlier?
[00:35] <plars> InSearchOf: no, it was this morning
[00:35] <plars> InSearchOf: on #ubuntu-meeting
[00:35] <InSearchOf> hmm... maybe there was a lot of them going on... is there an IRC log I can view?
[00:36] <InSearchOf> I need to up the scrollback buffer on xchat :-)
[00:37] <plars> InSearchOf: should be posted on the agenda page, but sometimes it takes a little while to get posted
[00:37] <InSearchOf> cool, thanks plars
[00:38] <plars> InSearchOf: one of the major things we discussed was moving to a wiki page for blueprint status tracking... err, actually updating the status on the blueprint, and using a script to generate the wiki page
[00:38] <InSearchOf> that would be sweet, I need to start looking at the blueprints again... and finally purchase a beagleboard as planned
[00:44] <InSearchOf> ubuntu-mobile?
[08:21] <lool> hi there
[08:29] <ogra> where ?
[09:12] <pat_> hi
[21:03] <NCommander> When two people dream the same dream, its a pointer error
[21:04] <dyfet> maybe it's being reference counted...
[21:13] <lool> ogra_: Around?
[21:13] <lool> ogra_: Did you ever use tools to manipulate the config of an uboot env part?
[21:15] <lool> Does someone have access to a /dev/mtd* device?
[21:15] <lool> I'd like to confirm that mtdN are char devices
[21:29] <NCommander> lool, I thought mtd* were block devices (although its very possible thats variable dependng on the underlying driver)
[21:29] <NCommander> lool, (and I can check on my B2.0 for you as soon as I'm off the phone)
[21:29] <lool> NCommander: mtdblockN are block devices
[21:30] <NCommander> lool, oh ...
[21:30] <lool> NCommander: I'd love if you could confirm for mtdN
[21:30] <lool> I think they are block devices as well, but you're in charge of clearing them with appropriate ioctls
[21:30] <NCommander> lool, its probably got to wait ~30 minutes, since I'm on the phone and my board is disconnected (and requires NFS root ATM, since my harddrive commited suidice)
[21:30] <lool> That's ok
[21:35] <NCommander> lool, qt4-x11 finished on RIMU
[21:35] <lool> COOL
[21:35] <lool> NCommander: So problem solved but we don't know why?  :-/
[21:35] <NCommander> lool, I think we just need to bump the build timeout on this package alone: http://paste.ubuntu.com/224914/
[21:36] <NCommander> (not a great solution, but I really don't want to start rewiring qt's build system)
[21:38] <lool> NCommander: Did you check how long the previous build time when compared to this one?
[21:38] <lool> is it a serious regression or just a small bump and we were lucky to build it so far?
[21:39] <beyossi> Ogra, i followed http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu but for some reason it doesn't recognize any device for attaching to eth0. I have a belkins wifi usb dongle connected to my usb-hub (a long with the keyboard and mouce it didn't recognize as well). any idea how to debug it?
[21:55] <beyossi> anybody is familiar with the beagleboard?
[22:04] <NCommander> lool, ok, off the phone
[22:04] <NCommander> lool, what I thnk happened is the requirements for building with -fPIE simply got higher with gcc 4.4
[22:05] <lool> NCommander: That could be
[22:05] <NCommander> ogra did some benchmarks between 4.3 and 4.4 and I think he didn't see a huge difference
[22:05] <NCommander> lool, and QT4 is a massive package. Its similar to upstart w.r.t. to the size of its data files
[22:06] <NCommander> lool, it might be a regression in GCC then again, it might just be we were tethering on the edge before, and 4.4 simply pushed us over
[22:06] <lool> That's what doko's bug is about I believe
[22:06] <NCommander> which bug?
[22:07] <NCommander> lool, I'm pretty content in us bumping the build timeout time if its acceptable by you
[22:08] <NCommander> er, wait
[22:08] <lool> Well i'd like to know how the build times compare
[22:08] <NCommander> On the buildds, the build was axed 18 hours, 23 minutes, 50.2 seconds in
[22:09] <NCommander> The completed build took 20.3 hours
[22:10] <NCommander> (that was building with dpkg-buildpackage -b doing an arch specific upload as per how the buildds do it)
[22:11] <lool> How was the previous one?
[22:11] <NCommander> lool, the last one that fully completed?
[22:11] <lool> Yep
[22:12] <NCommander> 2009-06-22  (took 20 hours, 59 minutes, 26.7 seconds)
[22:12] <NCommander> so it took even longer than the build on rimu
[22:12] <lool> NCommander: Ok; I'm fine with bumping the build time in this case
[22:12] <NCommander> (that was 4.5.1, we're building 4.5.2, so its a different base version)
[22:14] <NCommander> lool, did we figure out what was causing the lzma breakage?
[22:14] <NCommander> or did that simply magically fix itself?
[22:16] <lool> NCommander: It seems it went away on mesa with no reason
[22:17] <NCommander> lool, and on kdelibs :-/
[22:17] <NCommander> (er kde4libs, kdelibs is a separate issue I need to fix)
[22:21] <lool> NCommander: Can you confirm on that mtd issue?
[22:21] <NCommander> lool, sure, give me a moment to hook up the B2 to my laptop and bring up NFS
[22:27] <NCommander> lool, how do I check if its a block or character device? (sorry, I'm drawing a mental blank on how :-/)
[22:34] <NCommander> lool, no MTD support in the FSL B2 kernel
[22:34] <lool> NCommander: file /dev/foo
[22:34] <NCommander> (I have no /dev/mtd*)
[22:35] <NCommander> and nothing in dmesg to suggest anything is detected and just failing to configure
[22:36] <NCommander> ^- lool
[22:36] <lool> Ok thanks
[22:39] <lool> It seems they are char
[22:50] <Sarvatt> cat /proc/devices?
[22:51] <lool> I don't have a system with them
[22:58] <Sarvatt> he would see the mtdchar module loaded too i'd imagine
[23:00] <lool> Sarvatt: indeed; as a char device; thanks!


[00:01] <MarkDude> I think of Frink when I think of geeky stuff
[00:02] <seidos> what does frink say when he enters a room?
[00:02] <seidos> my best guess is "froivin" or something
[00:11] <MarkDude> Yep- he just sorta mmakes it up
[01:45] <seidos> makes it up?  no he says stuff like jerry lewis.  like "goivin" or something.
[09:43] <grantbow> It is always morning somewhere. ;-)
[18:21] <DarkwingDuck> Quick question for the wonderful Loco... Anyone have a graphics tablet/pad that they are not using and would be willing to sell?