[02:59] <Ziegler> barbguar: rm -rf ./*-1.JPG ??
[02:59] <Shpook> So, anyone ever have problems with programs not opening?
[03:00] <Fujitsu> Ziegler: No.
[03:00] <barbguar> They are all in Photos/year/month/date
[03:00] <Jordan_U> Ziegler, Don't use -f unless you need to
[03:00] <nickrud> Fujitsu, I've got nearly 40 years of qwerty, I'd probably explode
[03:00] <wolfric> rm */*/*-1.jpg? i dunno if that would push it i have no idea
[03:00] <Fujitsu> barbguar: find -name \*-1.JPG | xargs rm
[03:00] <Ziegler> Fujitsu: isnt r recursive?
[03:00] <Fujitsu> Ziegler: Yes, but not in that way.
[03:00] <robdig> Shpook: sometimes
[03:00] <Dr_willis> Yu dont use  */*/* type stuff. :) i belive...
[03:00] <Fujitsu> nickrud: It was painful to throw away a decade of typing ridiculously quickly, but I'm fairly quick again now.
[03:00] <Dr_willis> find and xargs, can handdle that.
[03:00] <wolfric> lol ok as the n00b ill shut up now :P
[03:01] <barbguar>  Dr_willis: I tried that already and it didn't work
[03:01] <Creed> Dr_willis, the man page is a little bare for fusesmb. So far I've created /home/smb and done "fusesmb /home/smb". What do I do from there?
[03:01] <Fujitsu> Dr_willis: That's what I used above.
[03:01] <Jordan_U> barbguar, Didn't work in what way?
[03:01] <Shpook> it's driving me crazy...even gtk programs won't open...some of them I can open through terminal or with sh, but onle sometimes
[03:01] <Fujitsu> Shpook: What error does it give?
[03:01] <nickrud> Fujitsu, how long do you figure it took you to get reasonably proficient? And how do you deal with machines that aren't yours?
[03:01] <robdig> Shpook: do you see errors when you open in terminal?
[03:02] <wolfric> does ubuntu have something like chkdsk?
[03:02] <Shpook> Only errors I've gotten were "file not found" but usually it just hangs in terminal.
[03:02] <jdlizard> is there a good irc channel for playstation emulators
[03:02] <Jordan_U> wolfric, Yes, fsck
[03:02] <barbguar> Jordan_U: it said the files didn't exist.
[03:02] <wolfric> ty
[03:02] <robdig> wolfric: fsck, but unmount your partition before using it
[03:02] <Jordan_U> barbguar, You probably need to add quotes
[03:02] <iron_angel> jdlizard: not sure offhand. There are a few of 'em out there, though
[03:02] <QMario> Fujitsu, so what is my problem?
[03:02] <Dr_willis> Creed,  cp /usr/share/doc/fusesmb/examples/fusesmb.conf.ex /home/USERNAME/.smb/fusesmb.conf    must be done. Then Edit that file.. you needto enter the proper info there.
[03:02] <Fujitsu> nickrud: It's hard to say. After about a day I was only a bit horrible painfully slow, but I can't give much more info... hm...  I can still type QWERTY fine, though sometimes end up doing things wrong.
[03:02] <Dr_willis> Creed,  and you Need to have your user int he fuse group
[03:03] <Jordan_U> barbguar, Otherwise anything like spaces in the file name will screw things up
[03:03] <jdlizard> ty iron_angel
[03:03] <matt___> is there a gtk app that is in the repos that will allow you to bind key combinations to start programs (like alt+f starts firefox) or is something like this even built in?
[03:03] <Shpook> On a hard reboot, the system is fine for about 30 mins, then it goes downhill
[03:03] <richard> when using growiso fs what does UBU stand for?
[03:03] <Creed> Dr_willis, thanks! Time to get busy heh
[03:03] <Dr_willis> Creed,  example in /etc/group fuse:x:107:willis Is my line.
[03:03] <robdig> Shpook: does dmesg show anything?
[03:03] <Jordan_U> barbguar, And again, you should use rm -i at least at first because files *cannot* be undeleted with ext3, once you rm them they are gone
[03:04] <Fujitsu> Jordan_U: What's wrong wiht a boring old find -name \*-1.JPG | xargs rm?
[03:04] <dmitrig01_> i all
[03:04] <dmitrig01_> what are the params to apt-get?
[03:04] <Fujitsu> dmitrig01_: To do what?
[03:04] <timroff> hi all, looking for help with wine and itunes
[03:04] <Dr_willis> Creed,  BUT the user must totally lot out to get the new group setting.. (or cheat and some how login again with like 'ssh localhost')
[03:04] <barbguar> Jordan_U: that seems to have worked
[03:04] <Jordan_U> Fujitsu, Nothing
[03:04] <Dr_willis> Creed,  Then you run the smbfuse command
[03:04] <barbguar> Thanks for helping everyone
[03:04] <Fujitsu> timroff: Don't even bother to try.
[03:04] <Jordan_U> barbguar, np
[03:04] <barbguar> Now I just need to update fspot
[03:05] <timroff> fujitsu: ive got it all installed right, but when i try and open it i get nothing
[03:05] <nickrud> timroff, probably #winehq has help on that
[03:05] <Shpook> robdig: nothing that I can spot, but I don't exactly know everything to look for
[03:05] <timroff> ok cheers
[03:06] <Fujitsu> timroff: Right, it doesn't work.
[03:06] <wolfric> im sorry but how do i use fsck? either im doing something really wrong or the parameters are just really confusing...
[03:06] <Weng> Is there any way to make Ubuntu understand borderless photopaper for printing? Trial and error is getting expensive
[03:07] <richard> burning cd's what does UBU stand for?
[03:07] <il12> how do I view the currently running processes and see how much of my computer's resources are being used?
[03:07] <bamaboy789> anyone know a proxy that acctually works on runescape?
[03:07] <Shpook> wolfric: what exactly do you need to do? just run a basic check?
[03:07] <Creed> Dr_willis, how do I unmount something?
[03:07] <Fujitsu> il12: System->Administgration->System Monitor.
[03:08] <nickrud> Weng, what printer?
[03:08] <wolfric> no my drives fucked up or something
[03:08] <il12> Creed: I could be wrong but I just right clicked it in the file viewing UI and clicked 'unmount'
[03:08] <Fujitsu> !ohmy | wolfric
[03:08] <ubotu> wolfric: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:08] <Weng> nickrud: Canon i560
[03:08] <bqmassey> can someone please help me reinstall grub
[03:08] <Weng> nickrud: I suspect it doesn't matter anymore, though. 'cuz I just ran out of ink on the last print
[03:08] <wolfric> ive got a really old machine running windows partitioned when i tried to install linux on the second drive it screwed up now nothing will boot and partman crashes when i try to reinstall it
[03:08] <bqmassey> i'm booted into 7.04
[03:08] <Creed> il12, heh this is in regards to fusesmb, different I believe
[03:08] <il12> Fujitsu: ty. had forgotten that it was more friendly to view such things on this IS.
[03:08] <Shpook> wolfric: yeah, we try to keep it family friendly in here please :-)
[03:09] <wolfric> sorry my bad
[03:09] <il12> Creed: whoops. Sorry, was thinking in general. oops. :-$
[03:09] <bamaboy789> sigh anyone know a great mmorpg i can play?
[03:09] <iron_angel> bamaboy789: on Linux? Second Life.
[03:09] <bqmassey> bamaboy789: #idlerpg
[03:09] <Creed> il12, its alright, my question was pretty generic as well.
[03:09] <Creed> il12, atleast the way I put it
[03:09] <Ziegler> my latest sshd saga: X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[03:09] <Shpook> wolfric: it's okay, it happens sometimes. usually just running fsck should work, it'll automatically scan your filesystem
[03:10] <crush_groove>  wolfric are you on linux now ?
[03:10] <tcpdumpgod> il12 Use the command "top"
[03:10] <wolfric> no windows i have 2 machines beside eachother
[03:10] <crush_groove>  ah
[03:10] <wolfric> the other one is currently running off the cd
[03:10] <dmitrig01_> I have a question about apt-get - I installed linux w/ internet unpluged, so it commented out everything in /etc/apt/sources.list, and now I uncommented the lines.  But for some reason, apt-get isn't installing *anything*
[03:10] <Shpook> wolfric: but don't do it on an active system, reboot to command line or livecd
[03:10] <bqmassey> Can someone help me reinstall GRUB from 7.04 Live CD??  Please.
[03:10] <nickrud> Weng, ok, that's good cuz I wasn't really finding much :0
[03:10] <Fujitsu> dmitrig01_: RUn apt-get update first.
[03:10] <wolfric> yeah im using live cd on the computer im trying to install it on
[03:11] <dmitrig01_> thank you
[03:11] <bqmassey> Can someone help me reinstall GRUB from 7.04 Live CD??  Please.
[03:11] <Fujitsu> !grub | bqmassey
[03:11] <ubotu> bqmassey: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:11] <wolfric> but since i havnt got it to install yet i havnt figured out exactly how to use linux...
[03:11] <crush_groove>  wolfric if you can dl a app called sysmontools .  it will inspect your harddrive and determine its health .
[03:11] <Fujitsu> bqmassey: The first think there should help.
[03:11] <bqmassey> thanks Fujitsu
[03:11] <deadlock> How do you install Icons on linux?
[03:11] <wolfric> does it take a log of mem? the pc im trying to run it on its pretty old and doesnt have a lot of ram
[03:12] <bamaboy789> man all i need is one good proxy and i can play runescape again
[03:12] <Ziegler> sshd problem fixed
[03:12] <wolfric> since im running it pure off the cd i assume
[03:12] <crush_groove>  no
[03:12] <Ziegler> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3985175
[03:12] <Shpook> wolfric: you know, I've had big problems trying to install any linux build on older machines
[03:12] <crush_groove> heres thread
[03:12] <crush_groove> wolfric, http://prefetch.net/articles/diskdrives.smart.html
[03:12] <Ziegler> (that was 6 hours of pain)
[03:13] <nickrud> Ziegler, lol, that is a concise fix :)
[03:13] <wolfric> ok hold on 2 secs let me see if i can get the machine hooked up to the net
[03:13] <skelter> hmm, so i just logged in, and i have no background (now it's black), taskbar or window chooser. help! :s
[03:13] <noodles12> !suspend
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <bamaboy789> i wonder why it all of a sudden stoped working
[03:13] <skelter> i made no configuration changes, but there was a power outage
[03:13] <User123> hi, can somebody explain me a kernel interface ?
[03:13] <Dr_willis> Creed,  to unnmount the smbfuse tools. I seem to recall using 'sudo umount /path/to/the/fusemountpoint'
[03:13] <skelter> don't know why that would matter but figured i'd mention it
[03:14] <Zoo> Has anyone set up fltk with eclipse or anjuta?
[03:14] <Dr_willis> Creed,  thers also the fuse tools. Check the fuse web pages/docs
[03:14] <noodles12> i have a dell 700 with intel graphics. my suspend was broken and movies would play in all black. I installed the xorg-driver-fglrx and videos worked but now the suspend is gone from the menu, instead of <suspend, restart, hibernate, shutdown> now there is only <restart, shutdown>
[03:14] <User123> Can someone tell me what a kernel interface is ?
[03:15] <Fujitsu> User123: In what context?
[03:15] <skelter> probably not, user123, best bet is to google
[03:15] <bamaboy789> hmm lol i was reading a thread for proxy for runescape and he said go to www.3pic.com it works loli thought he was telling truth
[03:15] <User123> i want to install the new nvidia driver
[03:16] <bamaboy789> yall can try it if u want
[03:16] <User123> and it told me to download a new kernel interface
[03:16] <WorkingOnWise> dansguardian is broke and it is stopping me from installing anything else. I tries uninstalling it, ans I get E: dansguardian: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127. I tried reinstalling it and i get errors too. what do i do do just remove it? I have tries remove and purge.
[03:16] <nickrud> bamaboy789, please don't link those here
[03:16] <skelter> user123, use envy
[03:16] <skelter> i can get you a link
[03:16] <Jeffrey1> anyone know of an all-in-one PXE application? I know the pieces are out there, just wondering if there was a full application which had a GUI front-end
[03:16] <HardDisk> bamaboy789, this is not the channel for these things
[03:16] <skelter> it makes video drivers a snap (if you have an ATI or nvidia card)
[03:16] <Dr_willis> skelter,  or can trash your system..
[03:16] <HardDisk> bamaboy789, just because you got banned for whatever it is you were doing, don't post it here.
[03:17] <nickrud> !envy
[03:17] <User123> skelter i need a 3D driver
[03:17] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[03:17] <skelter> Dr_willis, so far envy has been my savior
[03:17] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, could you paste the complete output from  apt-get -f install
[03:17] <User123> atm im using glx-new driver
[03:17] <cipher_nemo_> I'm having issues getting ICH5 sound to work even though everything looks good (lsmod | grep snd; lspci; aplay -l; etc.). I had the system system working with an Audigy card, but pulled it from the PC. Now the on-board sound isn't working. Any ideas?
[03:17] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, sudo apt-get -f install , that is
[03:17] <skelter> using the restricted driver manager to install video drivers did NOT work for me, but envy did
[03:18] <wolfric> http://prefetch.net/articles/diskdrives.smart.html (posting for 2nd client)
[03:18] <skelter> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[03:19] <Shpook> cipher_nemo: still a no-go, huh? have you tried installing alsa-oss?
[03:19] <User123> thanx to skelter
[03:19] <Dr_willis> skelter,  and so far i see perhaps a dozen people a week that have to reinstall due to envy
[03:19] <nickrud> Dr_willis, aren't you being a bit conservative?
[03:19] <Creed> Dr_willis, you mean fuse-utils?
[03:19] <Shpook> Dr_willis: add me to that list.
[03:19] <Dr_willis> nickrud,  it will get MUCH worse when theres a new release. :)
[03:20] <skelter> use at your own risk, obviously, but the restricted driver control panel did absolutely nothing good
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> Reading package lists... Done
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> Building dependency tree
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> Reading state information... Done
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> 1 not fully installed or removed.
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> Need to get 0B of archives.
[03:20] <skelter> didn't work at all
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> Setting up dansguardian (<IP_ADDRESS>-antivirus-<IP_ADDRESS>-4) ...
[03:20]  * nickrud takes those first two weeks off
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> Starting DansGuardian: invoke-rc.d: initscript dansguardian, action "start" failed.
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> dpkg: error processing dansguardian (--configure):
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:20] <Dr_willis> Creed,  thers several fuse tools, as part of the fuse package.  Fuse is a tool thats well worth reading/learning about
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:20] <robdig> !paste | WorkingOnWise
[03:20] <ubotu> WorkingOnWise: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise>  dansguardian
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> dohhhh
[03:20] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, oh, sorry, paste isn't here
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> sorry room
[03:20] <Shpook> WOW: use pastebin, it does'nt flood the channel
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> pastebin!!!
[03:20] <noogen> stop
[03:20] <Shpook> !pastebin
[03:20] <cipher_nemo_> Shpook: yup, still no-go. What is alsa-oss? I have Alsa on the system, and it looks like oss is there. Also I did check the idiot things like muted levels, in the right sound part, etc.
[03:20] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[03:20] <User123> Could someone send me a link for an explanation of kernel interfaces ??? (*im interested*)
[03:20] <WorkingOnWise> lol...darn n))bs!
[03:20] <Dr_willis> kernel.org  perhaps?
[03:20] <wolfricbrokenpc> stuck at connecting to server for smartmontools
[03:21] <snurtle> evening yall
[03:21] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, lol,  could you put on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org :) /var/lib/dpkg/info/dansguardian.postinst
[03:21] <cipher_nemo_> Shpook: could this be an issue of having a Creative Labs Audigy card installed first, then pulling it, enabling on-board in BIOS, and booting back up to Ubuntu?
[03:21] <skelter> so, i logged in after a power outage, and i have no background, taskbar or window chooser. anyone know what might be going on? didn't do any config changes
[03:22] <gerzel_> ok I can't get my mic to record.  I think I need to run alsaconf but it doesn't seem to be on my ubuntu system.
[03:22] <Shpook> cipher_nemo: possibly, that's the opposite of what caused my problem. I was using onboard, then switched to a pci card.
[03:22] <skelter> gerzel_, apt-get install alsa?
[03:23] <gerzel_> alsa is installed.
[03:23] <cipher_nemo_> Shpook, it may be more similar than we think. What was your resolution?
[03:23] <wolfricbrokenpc> crush_grove: does smartmontools do much more then fsck?
[03:23] <Shpook> cipher_nemo: in System->Preferences->Sound can you hear anything under any of the options in playback, when you hit test?
[03:23] <bazz> so, does the bcm43xx driver support master mode out of the box and do i need hostapd to be able to actually use it in master mode?
[03:23] <gerzel_> Would it install something different if I get it through apt?
[03:23] <Ash_Heron> hi how do i update gutsy to the latest gnome?
[03:23] <gerzel_> I'm getting sound out of the card.
[03:23] <skelter> gerzel_, i don't know much about recording
[03:23] <cipher_nemo_> Shpook: nope, sound or music, I have it continuing to play while I test things, lol. Still nothing :-(
[03:24] <Fujitsu> Ash_Heron: It is the latest GNOME.
[03:24] <nickrud> Ash_Heron, you have the latest gnome,
[03:24] <Ash_Heron> gnome 2.21.4 has been released
[03:24] <skelter> gerzel_, i do know that a lot of recording hardware isn't supported in linux, though. for instance my USB audio interface doesn't work for linux.
[03:24] <nickrud> Ash_Heron, if you really want that, look up jhbuild . But doing it is beyond this channel's support
[03:24] <cyzie> hi, how do i do a complete test on the hdd status and save to a log for analysis?
[03:24] <wolfricbrokenpc> so um.. about the smartmontools... if that fails is there a backup?
[03:24] <Ash_Heron> ok thanks for a place to start :)
[03:25] <Shpook> cipher_nemo: what about the latest ac97 driver?
[03:25] <gerzel_> And I can hear the mic when I turn up its level.  However whenever I try to send that sound into any program (ie a voice chat or sound recording) it doesn't record.  I also know that this worked with previos versions of ubuntu and slackware.
[03:25] <cipher_nemo_> Shpook: I even added a line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base to test (options snd-hda-intel model=3stack) but I don't have the hda chip
[03:25] <cipher_nemo_> Shpook: where can I get the latest AC97 driver?
[03:25] <josse> how  do you schedule an automatic backup with cron?
[03:25] <Shpook> cipher_nemo: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=23&PFid=23&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#AC that should be it
[03:26] <Shpook> cipher_nemo it has to be compiled
[03:26] <cipher_nemo_> Shpook: thanks, I'll try that!
[03:26] <noogen> bazz: psst, master mode?  i'm just glad it's working
[03:26] <Shpook> cipher_nemo: let us know what happens, and see if we have to go to the next step lol
[03:26] <bazz> noogen: heh, yeah, i know, but master mode would be nice :)
[03:26] <makuseru> hi, in pidgin, when im a direcrly connected to people, and they send me pictures, or i send pictures, part of the picture will display then the rest will just be black. what causes this and how can i fix it?
[03:27] <cipher_nemo_> Shpook: RealTek natively supports Linux... cool. Trying it now.
[03:27] <wolfric2> can someone help me use fsck
[03:28] <nickrud> wolfric2, what are you trying to fsck ?
[03:28] <wolfric2> my corrupted hard drive that i messed up in my previous attempt to install linux
[03:28] <nickrud> wolfric2, if you intend to install to that same partition, you don't need to fsck.
[03:29] <wolfric2> partman crashes
[03:29] <wolfric2> when i try reinstall
[03:29] <snurtle> is there any software on ubuntu that supports tv tuner
[03:29] <bazz> snurtle: mythtv's pretty good
[03:29] <iron_angel> oh, something else is wrong, then, most likely
[03:29] <wolfric2> exit error 10
[03:29] <Dr_willis> snurtle,  i watch tv with MtythTV all the time. ;)
[03:29] <iron_angel> snurtle: also, kdetv and tvtime aren't bad.
[03:29] <snurtle> i got that but how do i set it up?do i need to find the drivers for my tuner?
[03:29] <nickrud> wolfric2, erm, from the live cd,  run sudo fdisk -l , do you get a partition listing?
[03:30] <bazz> wolfric2: you could try booting the livecd and running gparted on it
[03:30] <Shpook> cipher_nemo: yeah, thankfully more and more companies are starting to support *nix platforms
[03:30] <snurtle> i got tv time but i just get the blue screen
[03:30] <snurtle> =(
[03:30] <wolfric2> L or I?
[03:30] <nickrud> wolfric, L
[03:30] <wolfric2> either way just get "fsck 1.40-wip (14-nov-2006)
[03:30] <wolfric2> one liner
[03:30] <Tim_B> Hello all - Has anyone experience solving the Shuttle SN25P (Nvidia chipset) sound issues with Gutsy Gibbon? I am all Googled out...
[03:31] <snurtle> says i have no video source for tvtime
[03:31] <snurtle> how do i get my source
[03:31] <Ash_Heron> nickrud: thanks for the infos found this http://live.gnome.org/JhbuildOnUbuntu
[03:31] <nickrud> wolfric2, Ash_Heron yup, that's the one :)
[03:31] <crush_groove> Shpook, as mngmt heads  learn more and more about the overall stability and cost effectivness in conjunction with the layers of programs freely available they almost will have to migrate towards the *nix distros seems to me
[03:31] <wolfric2> nickrud ?
[03:32] <Ash_Heron> :)
[03:32] <nickrud> wolfric2, try bazz 's suggestion, run gparted from the live cd
[03:32] <wolfric2> so that was what was supposed to happen?
[03:32] <wolfric2> gnome partition editor?
[03:32] <wolfric2> i think that crashed on me aswell let me try again
[03:32] <nickrud> wolfric2, there are no partitions to fsck, you need to create new ones, and yes
[03:32] <noodles12> i have a dell 700 with intel graphics. my suspend was broken and movies would play in all black. I installed the xorg-driver-fglrx and videos worked but now the suspend is gone from the menu, instead of <suspend, restart, hibernate, shutdown> now there is only <restart, shutdown>
[03:32] <brett_> hey, how do you manage wireless networks in ubuntu?
[03:33] <snurtle> tvtime source anyone?
[03:33] <nickrud> wolfric2, if that fails, run cfdisk , it's a text one that's never failed me (unlike gparted and kin)
[03:33] <brett_> my wireless is jumping on my neighbors connection all the time
[03:33] <brett_> and i don't know how to make it stop
[03:33] <snurtle> cannot open capture device dev/video0
[03:33] <Shpook> crush_groove: and it's happening, with the major distribution companies offering Ubuntu, and many governments and companies switching to Linux on more than just servers
[03:33] <wolfric2> ok got it
[03:33] <amonkey> i installed apache2 and php5, but when i try to goto a .php file in /var/www/ it starts to download instead of execute. php5 mod is enabled under apache.
[03:33] <hans69> hi guys, i can't close applets in firefox, how do i solve this bug??
[03:33] <brett_> amonkey did you restart apache after you installed php?
[03:33] <nickrud> wolfric2, create your partitions there
[03:33] <wolfric2> its running but all the partitions have a lock beside em
[03:33] <amonkey> brett_, yes
[03:33] <brett_> hans69, can't close them?
[03:34] <wolfric2> ive already got the partitions made my ntfs and  linux-swap +ext3 plus another ntfs
[03:34] <hans69> nop, i know it's a sun plugin bug
[03:34] <nickrud> wolfric2, but fdisk -l doesn't show them?
[03:35] <wolfric2> they're just corrupted or somewhat along the lines i get "operating system error" when i turn on the pc and try to boot and an "exit 10 error" when i try reinstall from live cd icon on desktop
[03:35] <wolfric2> nope
[03:35] <brett_> anybody know how to manage wireless networks in ubuntu?
[03:35] <nickrud> wolfric2 then your partition table is fubar'd, run cfdisk and recreate all
[03:35] <wolfric2> any parameters i need ontop of that?
[03:36] <nickrud> wolfric2, cfdisk /dev/<root disk>   , like /dev/sda
[03:36] <wolfric2> cfdisk - fatal error cannot open disk drive press any key to exit cfdisk
[03:36] <khice> hey
[03:36] <nickrud> wolfric, try cfdisk /dev/hda
[03:37] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: had to take the dogs out... heres the file u wanted. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49453/
[03:37] <wolfric2> same error
[03:37] <hans69> can anybody help me?
[03:37] <nickrud> poopy time comes first
[03:37] <regeya> !ask
[03:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:37] <nickrud> wolfric2, then I think you have a hardware problem
[03:37] <wolfric2> tried it on 1-5 hdas
[03:37] <nickrud> wolfric2, not hda1 , but hda
[03:38] <wolfric2> yeah i tried hda first and then hda1 /hda2 etc..
[03:38] <regeya> whoo.
[03:38] <wolfric2> i just figured id give em a shot since all the partitions were named that
[03:38] <pawan> hi
[03:38] <pawan> whats up
[03:39] <hankdogg> Hey guys, simple router question... I'm trying to enable some ports on a linksys wrt54g, but whenever I try to save the settings, it says "Port range 0-0 not valid", even though I'm certain none of the enabled ports are set to 0-0, and I even changed the non enabled ports are 0-0 just to make sure
[03:39] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/dansguardian.postinst , enter     exit 0     on line 2; then run sudo apt-get -f install  ,  then *immediately* run sudo aptitude purge dansguardian
[03:39] <wolfric2> is there anything else i can try? i mean my files are still there i can still get my windows files when im on the live cd
[03:39] <jdlizard> does anyone familiar with jinzora
[03:39] <jdlizard> is
[03:40] <jdlizard> lol
[03:40] <nickrud> wolfric2, I'm not an expert on disk drives, luckily I've never had problems so I never needed to learn more than the basics.
[03:40] <gneale> hankdogg: make sure you have the right choices "enabled"
[03:40] <wolfric2> i shouldnt need to unmount them first should i ?
[03:40] <crush_groove>  wolfric2 did you dl and use smart ?
[03:40] <nickrud> wolfric2, keep the error that cfdisk spits out, and mention that in your requests.  Someone who knows will see it, eventually
[03:40] <brett_> anybody know how to manage wireless networks in ubuntu?
[03:40] <wolfric2> tried to
[03:40] <crush_groove> ?
[03:40] <wolfric2> got stuck on connecting to server and timed out
[03:41] <jdlizard> when i try to access jinzora it says invalid style liquid, could anyone help with this
[03:41] <wolfric2> when i tried wget http://unc.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/smartmontools/smartmontools-5.36.tar.gz
[03:41] <cipher_nemo_> Shpook: ack! That was a long build (no binary), and the auto build installer they have failed at the end mentioning I needed a "curses library"?
[03:41] <nickrud> wolfric2, erm, one more thing:  sudo umount /dev/hda  ,   sudo umount /dev/sda  , whichever, and try again
[03:41] <crush_groove>  yea
[03:41] <crush_groove> \ I dled and installed
[03:42] <crush_groove>  its very simple unpacks itself
[03:42] <wolfric2> ok
[03:42] <Highlife> How can I loop what I'm listening to through skype?
[03:42] <otto_> so...anyone know why xserver-xorg-core gets a "No Valid FontPath could be found" error on a fresh gutsy-server install?
[03:42] <nickrud> wolfric2, gah, I'm brain dead, each of your partition,s /dev/hdaX
[03:42] <crush_groove> watches
[03:43] <wolfric2> haha sweet man you're a genius whatever the hell that did im now getting past the partition window in install hope this works out the os booting but ill have to see :) thanks man
[03:43] <otto_> I found one other person on the forums with the problem but theres no solution
[03:43] <hankdogg> gneale: I'm fairly certain only two are enabled, and another weird thing, is that if I just load the page fresh with default, it gives me that error even if I don't changed anything
[03:43] <cipher_nemo_> Anyone know where I get a "curses library" when a build (building updated drivers for sound) requests it?
[03:43] <nickrud> wolfric2, yw :)  It was another of nickrud's  doh! moments
[03:44] <hans69> how can i close java applets in firefox?
[03:44] <navetz> how do i get vmware server
[03:44] <nickrud> cipher_nemo_, install libncurses5-dev
[03:44] <cipher_nemo_> nickrud: thanks
[03:45] <nickrud> navetz, add deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu gutsy partner  to /etc/apt/sources.list , sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install vmware-server
[03:45] <hans69> how can i close java applets in firefox?
[03:45] <dduong> navetz: www.vmware.com
[03:45] <navetz> nickrud: thx
[03:45] <nickrud> hans69, close the tab?
[03:46] <dduong> or what nick said :P
[03:46] <Nikolai> Hi all. And marry cristmass.  Euhm.. I've got a trouble. When i start live CD my old monitor cant handle the resolution or refresh rate. And whats wierd, even if i change resolution to lower one. It still happens. Any ideas anyone. Thx. ;)
[03:46] <MuDBluR> does anybody knows VirtualBox ?
[03:46] <otto_> anyone? "no valid FontPath could be found"
[03:46] <dduong> otto:  Sorry I don't know this one
[03:46] <SeekerX5> I was wondering - is the flash problem only affecting new ubuntu users, or do those who've already downloaded previous flash have problems too?
[03:47] <otto_> it seems to be a gutsy specific problem
[03:47] <hans69> nickrud: when i press the x button of the java applet window it doesn't close
[03:47] <wolfric2> btw last question hopefully.... installing linux... should i need an ext3 swap AND an ntfs for just linux?
[03:47] <SeekerX5> otto:  your answer was to my question?
[03:47] <nickrud> hans69, no clue then, it was sort of a jocky answer
[03:47] <MuDBluR> SeekerX5: i had a problem with flashplayer... and i had to install manualy
[03:47] <nickrud> wolfric2, the ntfs is not required
[03:47] <cyzie> anyone has any idea what could this means? Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:47] <nigro> hi
[03:48] <nickrud> !flash | SeekerX5 (no, people who got it before it broke are ok)
[03:48] <ubotu> SeekerX5 (no, people who got it before it broke are ok): To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:48] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[03:48] <hankdogg> wolfric2: Nope, you should probably have just 3 directorys, 1 swap, 1 ext3 /boot, and 1 ext3 /
[03:48] <hans69> nickrud: this is a bug, right?
[03:48] <nigro> anybody know who configure an bcm43xx wireless?
[03:48] <MuDBluR> cyzie: maybe a software problem...
[03:48] <Cpudan80> cyzie: It means the program died
[03:48] <nickrud> hans69, no clue, I haven't run a java applet in who knows when
[03:48] <cyzie> how could i trace to the source of error ?
[03:48] <hans69> ok
[03:48] <Cpudan80> cyzie: look at the core dump
[03:49] <nickrud> hankdogg, better is /   /home and swap
[03:49] <SeekerX5> nickrud:  thanks.
[03:49] <nickrud> hankdogg, it's not like we're using an ancient lilo here :)
[03:49] <Zoo> Anyone set up fltk with eclipse or anjuta?
[03:50] <cyzie> Cpudan80, i dont knwo where is the cordump.
[03:50] <boo__> hey can someone help me fix my mbr/boot sectors?   i can see a partition in linux but I can't boot it
[03:50] <nigro> my problem is: the wireless work fine without wep but when I try with wep my cars can't establish the connection
[03:50] <nigro> :(
[03:50] <hankdogg> nickrud: True, that is another way true
[03:50] <Cpudan80> cyzie: In the directory the program was running from usually
[03:50] <Cpudan80> What program died?
[03:50] <cyzie> epiphany
[03:50] <hankdogg> nickrud: I usually try to avoid keeping all of my /home files however when I reinstall
[03:50] <nickrud> hankdogg, you keep a separate data partition?
[03:51] <cyzie> Cpudan80, well, i chekc on the directory i run, i dont see the core dump.
[03:51] <herbi1> hi everyone
[03:51] <Cpudan80> cyzie: It would help to know what program is causing the problem
[03:51] <gneale> hankdogg: i recommend a data drive too
[03:51] <WorkingOnWise> nickrud: worked fine. ty ty ty. May your kernel never panic and your gui never stick my friend :)
[03:52] <cyzie> Cpudan80, epiphany
[03:52] <nickrud> WorkingOnWise, yw, and thanks
[03:52] <wired13> hi, ifs it possible to share a modem/PPP (over a mobile data card) connection "out" from a LAN port? (such that i can plug the LAN from the box into any existing router's uplink port, like say, a linksys wrt54g)
[03:52] <_sojourner> cyzie try /var/crash/
[03:52] <Cpudan80> cyzie: hrm... never used it -- sorry
[03:52] <snurtle> how come kernels decide to pani from nowhere?
[03:52] <snurtle> panic
[03:52] <hankdogg> nickrud: I have a backup drive and home server with my things backed up
[03:52] <gneale> hankdogg: keep whatever you want from your various home directories there and also mp3s, jpgs, videos, and other important docs
[03:52]  * robdig thinks they get bored and want to watch us scramble
[03:53] <herbi1> i have tried and tried to get sound to work on aMSN with no luck..  ive edited the .tcl files  config.xml files and still no luck.. the cam works but no sound from the other end.  any ideas?
[03:53] <nickrud> hankdogg, smarter solution, true
[03:53] <cyzie> _sojourner, yes, got that crash file
[03:53] <cyzie> _sojourner,  but it is ascii very long lines.
[03:53] <hankdogg> nickrud: well, my only probably with /home, is that if I reinstall, it keeps config files with my previous setup
[03:53] <hankdogg> assuming of course your trying to keep your /home
[03:53] <Kl4m> snurtle: huh, kernel panic means that the Kernel detected a "dangerous" situation and decided to stop immediately
[03:54] <Highlife> how do I reset alsa to defualt settings?
[03:54] <nickrud> hankdogg, I see that as a feature , but that is a matter of state
[03:54] <nickrud> *taste
[03:54] <snurtle> but osmetimes it does it out of nowhere..just on a restart for example
[03:54] <hankdogg> nickrud: gneale yeap, different strokes for different folks, the good thing is with ubuntu/linux, we have a choice
[03:55] <nickrud> robdig, you have an evil mind. They'd never do that to us
[03:55] <Gigi> Hi!  Do you know if I can see how much do I had the computer on
[03:55] <Kl4m> There's no "out of nowhere" I'm sorry. The kernel is just a program, still deterministic
[03:55] <qcode> hi
[03:55] <Kl4m> Gigi: uptime
[03:55] <boo__> =/ I feel like I've been talking to myself all night, can someone please help me fix this booting problem I've been having?
[03:55] <Goatz> What is the fix for restricted codecs rendering movies in black and white / greyscale / pastel. (totem)
[03:55] <Gigi> huh?
[03:56] <Gigi> !uptime
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uptime - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <nickrud> Kl4m, cosmic rays toggling bits?
[03:56] <matt___> i am making me a "backup" script. I've tried "tar -cf Backup.tar /home/matt.*", as I have a disk mounted in /home/matt/Data and don't want data to be backup up. I only want the config folders in matt to be backup up, hence the .*, but it doesn't work, it wants to grab everything, any help?
[03:56] <Gigi> on the command?
[03:56] <hankdogg> boo__: I'll give it a go, whats happening
[03:56] <MuDBluR> boo__: what problem ?
[03:56] <herbi1> i have tried and tried to get sound to work on aMSN with no luck..  ive edited the .tcl files  config.xml files and still no luck.. the cam works but no sound from the other end.  the sound works in Preferences tho. any ideas?
[03:56] <Gigi> got it
[03:56] <Gigi> thanks
[03:56] <nickrud> ah, I'm getting twitchy and silly. see ya all
[03:56] <chaosrl> is there any way to save a WEP key in network manager?
[03:56] <Kl4m> nickrud: I said deterministic, not an isolated system :P
[03:57] <boo__> Alright, I have a windows drive that I have used previously, I installed ubuntu beside it on a different partition and have been using it since.  I've been able to see the files in ubuntu, but I can't boot into windows
[03:57] <Gigi>  21:56:18 up 1 day,  3:56,  2 users,  load average: 0.21, 0.29, 0.14 ---- what meas this, that it has been on 1 day?
[03:57] <Gigi> how there can be 2 users???
[03:57] <yaztromo> 1 day 3 hours 56 mins
[03:57] <boo__> I've tried using fixboot/fixmbr from the winxp recovery disk, some stuff on hiren's bootcd, and testdisk, but for some reason, nothing happens when i select the windows option in grub
[03:58] <Goatz> Gigi you may be loged in more than once, once in x and maybe once in a vt
[03:58] <MuDBluR> Gigi: 2 user because is u and root... use man uptime to find more about it
[03:58] <hankdogg> boo__: are you trying to boot into xp or ubuntu?
[03:58] <boo__> xp
[03:58] <moDumass> hmm, does anyone know how to get skype video to not have a solid green screen?
[03:58] <boo__> im in ubuntu right now
[03:58] <Gigi> thanks guys
[03:58] <Corporeal> im developing a piece of software that binds to a socket... when it crashes (which is a lot considering what im doing) it leaves the address is use for freaking ever. any way to change the timeout to like... 1 second or something so it doesnt stay "Address in use" for so long?
[03:59] <MuDBluR> boo__: your disks are SATA ?
[03:59] <wolfric> does it come up with the option to select xp boo__
[03:59] <boo__> MuDBluR, i'm not sure, i didn't build this comp, it's a laptop
[03:59] <CokeNCode> hey guys, looking for some recovery software
[03:59] <CokeNCode> to get data off ntfs or fat32 partitions
[03:59] <CokeNCode> any suggestions
[03:59] <boo__> wolfric, yes,  it does the whole root (hd0,0), makeactive, chainloader +1, boot thing, but nothing happens , it sits there with an underscore
[03:59] <numpy> evening all
[04:00] <MuDBluR> boo__: hum... i aked because i had some problems with sata disks and XP + Ubuntu
[04:00] <wolfric> has it always been like this?
[04:00] <MuDBluR> boo__: log into linux and confirm the location of your XP partition...
[04:01] <MuDBluR> mybe is not on hd0,0
[04:01] <boo__> i havent been able to boot windows since i installed ubunut
[04:01] <boo__> it is, though MuDBluR .  i've done fdisk -l many times
[04:01] <MuDBluR> boo__: hum....
[04:01] <jramsey> cmd please to mount an iso cd rom with exec option? i have a mind block ... i did sudo mount /cdrom /cdrom bit cam
[04:01] <jramsey> cam
[04:01] <boo__>  dev/sda1 is hda0,0
[04:01] <MuDBluR> boo__: weird...
[04:01] <jramsey> can't remember the exec switch and man isnt clear
[04:01] <jinxed> hey
[04:02] <MuDBluR> boo__: u can remove grub and reinstall to try to fix it
[04:02] <jinxed> I was wondering what I would have to do to set up a music server on linux
[04:02] <boo__> there is one bit of a caveat, i'm on a university laptop that has a hidden ibm (recovery, i supposE) partition, could that have anything to do with it?
[04:02] <jinxed> with my old laptop
[04:02] <boo__> i've reinstalled grub 6 times todahy
[04:02] <otto_> so...if I manually install the xfonts packages...everything works...but why are they not included in the xserver-xorg-packages
[04:02] <yaztromo> boo__, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423938
[04:02] <MuDBluR> boo__: more weird right now...
[04:03] <herbi1> i have tried and tried to get sound to work on aMSN with no luck..  ive edited the .tcl files  config.xml files and still no luck.. the cam works but no sound from the other end.  the sound works in Preferences tho. any ideas?
[04:03] <fabio_> mery crhismas to all ubuntu users
[04:03] <fabio_> its good to know one men can change the world
[04:03] <jinxed> enhance.... enchance.... enchance.... enchance
[04:03] <wolfric> is there only one drive boo
[04:03] <jinxed> endless resolution
[04:03] <fabio_> Open Source to enernity
[04:03] <herbi1> merry xmas to you\
[04:03] <fabio_> *eternity
[04:03] <wolfric> physical hard drive
[04:04] <nigro> fabio_: mery crhismas to you
[04:04] <jinxed> does anyone know if it is possilbe to upgrade to the new version of ubuntu from 7.04
[04:04] <fabio_> nigro: thanks pall
[04:04] <jinxed> without losing all my data
[04:04] <boo__> yaztromo, MuDBluR , another thing,  When I boot into winxp recovery console, WinXP doesn't find a windows installation like it should, when i do dir command to list files, it gives me an error
[04:04] <fabio_> herbil: _O_
[04:04] <moDumass> jinxed, it is possible
[04:04] <robdig> jinxed: yes
[04:04] <Zoo> Anyone install fltk successfully?
[04:04] <moDumass> i am using 7.10 and i started off with 6. something
[04:05] <jinxed> modumass how did you go about doing it?
[04:05] <fabio_> 2008 is cumming
[04:05] <fabio_> yeah
[04:05] <fabio_> :)
[04:06] <herbi1> lol fabio_
[04:06] <boo__> yes wolfric
[04:06] <boo__> there is only one physical drive
[04:06] <ncepu_> what
[04:06] <otto_> jinxed there are instructoins on the main ubuntu site
[04:06] <Beererde> hi. does gnash work for anyone? it displays fine, but the mouse is not working
[04:06] <yaztromo> boo__, what error does dir give
[04:06] <jinxed> thanks otto
[04:07] <otto_> click upgrade
[04:07] <otto_> instead of download
[04:07] <fabio_> herbi1: can u see the private?
[04:07] <dahitokiri> is there something special one must do to use DVI from a video card under ubuntu?
[04:07] <jinxed> will that affect me since I am triple particianed?
[04:07] <boo__> yaztromo, the windows recovery console?
[04:07] <otto_> it shouldnt matter
[04:07] <yaztromo> yeah
[04:07] <jinxed> I have 20/20/20 gigs ubuntu/xp/shared
[04:07] <otto_> it wont mess with your partitions
[04:07] <fabio_> windows is sheet
[04:07] <fabio_> lol
[04:07] <otto_> it should only update the installed files
[04:07] <jinxed> alright
[04:07] <jinxed> thanks otto
[04:08] <jinxed> i shall do that
[04:08] <hankdogg> jinxed: I can piss farther, I got 200/250/500 ubuntu/ubuntu/utbunt
[04:08] <jinxed> maybe beryl will finally work
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !beryl
[04:08] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[04:08] <jinxed> hankdogg yeah my comp is piece of shit,
[04:08] <sam_> hey I seem to have a problem with the update manager, can someone help?
[04:08] <jinxed> i just wanted xp/ubuntu but the guy i paid 100 dollars to said this was the way i should do it
[04:08] <otto_> whats the problem?
[04:08] <n00bie> what is the name of the current testing release?
[04:08] <hankdogg> jinxed: Naw, I'm sure it works, I definitely don't use that much, its kind of a waste
[04:09] <boo__> yaztromo, '...an error
[04:09] <boo__> has occurred enumerating the directory.
[04:09] <adamc> hello
[04:09] <fabio_> i dont know why my virtualbox not detect dvd room
[04:09] <fabio_> *rom
[04:09] <sam_> Well this shows up: 'E:Type '“deb' is not known on line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list, E:The list of sources could not be read.'
[04:09] <adamc> is it possible to get desktop effects with xgl and NO fglrx?
[04:10] <n00bie> is dapper testing or stable?
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> sam_: it would help to know what you were trying to install from which repo?
[04:10] <Jack_Sparrow> n00bie: dapper is very stable
[04:10] <msingh2> is it possible to rename the machine
[04:10] <otto_> sam: it sounds like you have a " in front of a deb
[04:10] <dahitokiri> is there something special one must do to use DVI from a video card under ubuntu?
[04:11] <crush_groove> msingh2,  at the bash prompt ?
 well I just noticed the icon on top of my screen, i clicked it and found out it was my update manager, then the error showed up
[04:11] <otto_> it should either be just 'deb' and the server address or '#deb'
[04:11] <boo__> Any idea anyone?
[04:11] <wolfric> how much stuff do you have on linux?
[04:11] <msingh2> crush_groove, wherever... i just dont like the foo-desktop default name i got
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> sam_: Have you changed your sources.list or EVER run automatix or envy.. both bad ideas by the way
[04:12] <boo__> a lot, wolfric
[04:12] <otto_> eh...automatix has never done me wrong in the past
[04:12] <yaztromo> boo__, try running a chkdsk in the recovery console
[04:12] <wolfric> would it be worth uninstalling it? or else transfer your windows file over to linux and reinstall windows on a wiped partition?
[04:12] <sam_> jack_sparrow: not that i know of, i recognize seeing automatix somewhere
[04:12] <yaztromo> or that ^^
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> otto_: It is the single WORST thing you acan do to your computer
[04:12] <crush_groove> msingh2,  at the bash you do it like this gnome-terminal --title=title >> changes term title ie >> gnome-terminal --title=beautiful
[04:12] <otto_> lol
[04:12] <boo__> yaztromo, can i just do fsck from within linux?
[04:13] <n00bie> i need to replace "Dapper" in /etc/apt/sources.list to the current testing, anybody knows?
[04:13] <kitofhawaii> !automatix > otto_
[04:13] <otto_> havnt used it since dapper I think but...always got what I needed done
[04:13] <yaztromo> i dont think fsck has an ntfs check
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> sam_: You can post your sources.list  to the pastebin.. not in channel.. but the odds are you did use it and that is the start of your problems
[04:13] <otto_> why do you need to do that n00bie?
[04:13] <Jack_Sparrow> kitofhawaii: Aloha & Mahalo
[04:13] <sam_> jack_sparrow: how do i get my sources.list in the first place?
[04:13] <otto_> and yes, with what gutsy has out of the box, there is no need for automatix
[04:13] <Shadow147> I have used automatix before and I hated it
[04:14] <otto_> sudo geded /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal
[04:14] <kitofhawaii> Jack_Sparrow: aloha :) mele kalikimaka :)
[04:14] <n00bie> otto_: i wanna move to testing i've been in debian before and :%s/stable/unstable/g is not working here. so i justt need one word, ONE.
[04:14] <otto_> sorry thats gedit
[04:14] <Jack_Sparrow> sam_: gksudo gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:14] <sam_> jack_sparrow: the only thing i remember seeing automatix is when i was trying to fix my sound, it was one of the options along with easy ubuntu
[04:14] <IdleOne> n00bie: that is not a good idea. you want to upgrade to the next version and so on till you get to testing. or download the alpha2 cd and do a fresh install
[04:14] <otto_> and...gksudo yeah...dont listen to me
[04:14] <smash> I'm ALiVE!   yay me  ^-^
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> sam_: It has NEVER been recommended by this channel
[04:15] <n00bie> i know what i'm doing could you pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease tell me the ONE word i need? is it edgy?
[04:15] <boo__> ok
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> otto_: Use gksudo for gui apps
[04:15] <boo__> yaztromo, what if the check turns up good?
[04:15] <sam_> jack_sparrow: yea i forgot where im positive i didnt even touch automatix though
[04:15] <wired13> hi, ifs it possible to share a modem/PPP (over a mobile data card) connection "out" from a LAN port? (such that i can plug the LAN from the box into any existing router's uplink port, like say, a linksys wrt54g)
[04:15] <n00bie> i miss sid :(
[04:15] <otto_> the current testing release? well I would vote hardy but...thats a big upgrade and will probably break dapper
[04:15] <IdleOne> n00bie: if you knew what you were doing you wouldnt do it
[04:16] <Shadow147> Jack_Sparrow gksudo is a pain I mainly use sudo for my superuser duities I am the only user anyways
[04:16] <boo__> wolfric, do you have any proposed solutions?
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> sam_: Automatix has a nasty habit of biting you during an update or upgrade
[04:16] <IdleOne> n00bie: join #ubuntu+1
[04:16] <n00bie> thanks for not mentioning the only word i need, i'll go back to debian you guys simply suck.
[04:16] <sam_> jack_sparrow: ohhh yea i touched my sourceslist for wine
[04:16] <yaztromo> boo__, id be surprised if it did. but if it does then its beyond me :(
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Shadow147: that is a bad isea
[04:16] <boo__> bleh
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> idea
[04:16] <boo__> ok wait
[04:16] <sam_> jack_sparrow: on the bottom i put ## Wine, Ubuntu Gutsy (7.10):
[04:16] <sam_> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt gutsy main
[04:16] <sam_> deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt gutsy main
[04:16] <sam_> “deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/screenlets gutsy screenlets”
[04:17] <IdleOne> n00bie: we suck because we dont want you to break your sysytem
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> sam_: Sorry I cant help you since you didnt listen..
[04:17] <otto_> your problem is the quotes around the last one sam
[04:17] <IdleOne> enjoy debian
[04:17] <sam_> jack_sparrow: wha??
[04:17] <n00bie> i've been in debian for over 5 years in sid IdleOne, and if i wanna know ubuntu i can't do it?
[04:17] <Shadow147> Jack_Sparrow well I don't use gksudo because it's too much a problem for me
[04:17] <sam_> jack_sparrow: so im just screwed?
[04:17] <IdleOne> n00bie: join #ubuntu+1 please
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Shadow147: using sudo for gui apps will lead to trashed permissions..
[04:17] <herbi1> i have tried and tried to get sound to work on aMSN with no luck..  ive edited the .tcl files  config.xml files and still no luck.. the cam works but no sound from the other end.  the sound works in Preferences tho. any ideas?
[04:18] <boo__> what should i do about this hidden partition?
[04:18] <smash> There's soo much shnit to learn about Linux.    I'll be damned if I ever get Wine to do anything  >_<
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sam_: fix the quotes.
[04:18] <sam_> jack_sparrow: just delete it?
[04:18] <yaztromo> n00bie, testing at the moment can be considered "hardy"
[04:18] <yaztromo> i guess
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sam_: remove the quotes or #    rem it out
[04:18] <Shadow147> Jack_Sparrow well I don't use it for gui apps just for updates and installing deb files
[04:18] <zylmak> hello i have a question why in kde if i press the remote place then samba share it faster than place -> network in gnome?
[04:18] <sam_> jack_sparrow: well the bottom one the screenlets i dont need anyway i can just delete
[04:19] <otto_> anyone know what packages will install libssl-dev?
[04:19] <sam_> jack_sparrow: ah problem solved hahah
[04:19] <otto_> openssh-server?
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > sam_:
[04:19] <sam_> jack_sparrow: the updates work now
[04:19] <Shadow147> n00bie Ubuntu is Debian Based so just going back to Debian is really just a waste of time and energy
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !find libssl
[04:19] <ubotu> Found: libssl-ocaml, libssl-ocaml-dev, libssl-dev, libssl0.9.8, libssl0.9.8-dbg
[04:19] <bqmassey> Today the update manager told me to install updates.. I did.. and now Grub gives me "Error 15: File Not Found" if i choose any of the three Ubuntu selections.. help!
[04:20] <sam_> jack_sparrow: just deleted the last line for screenlets, i put the quotes wrong anyway
[04:20] <av_> av
[04:20] <av_> hi
[04:20] <n00bie> Shadow147: i have not seen ONE single point on moving really to ubuntu, i'm just trying it and this is just not my thing but i wanna give it a try.
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> sam_: np...  in the future, please use the pastebin
[04:20] <Shadow147> bqmassy what updates did it install?
[04:20] <sam_> jack_sparrow: k
[04:20] <bqmassey> Shadow147: I don't remember.. there were many
[04:21] <Shadow147> bqmassy ok
[04:21] <pussfell1r> when I play an mp3 in totem, it freaks out and hogs the cpu and then that search deamon flips out too and i have to reboot
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> sam_: 10 - 15 thousand messages a day in here...   dont need the spam
[04:21]  * ottothecow waves goodbye to bqmassey's kernel
[04:21] <regeya> smash: using wine can be an exercise in frustration.  I mean, they're recreating an api that's only partly documented, so it tends to be frustrating.
[04:21] <zylmak> i have a question why in kde if i press the remote place then samba share it faster than place -> network in gnome?
[04:21] <ottothecow> !paste > ottothecow
[04:21] <Shadow147> bqmassy any updates the messed with the kernel or the kernel hearders
[04:21] <Shadow147> headers*
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> goodnight all
[04:21] <boo__> yaztromo, is there anything else I can do from the recovery console?
[04:22] <regeya> zylmak: beats the devil out of me.
[04:22] <bqmassey> Shadow147: thatse exactly what they were
[04:22] <yaztromo> boo__, the chkdsk turned out ok?
[04:22] <Shadow147> bqmassy ok
[04:22] <boo__> im about to go run it
[04:22] <zylmak> in ubuntu just to see my server it take between 2 to 5 min in kde its instant
[04:22] <boo__> but it's a hassle to keep rebooting
[04:23] <Shadow147> bqmassy hmm
[04:23] <wolfric> hey boo
[04:23] <xcthulhu> Icedtea is dieing on my x86-64 machine, is this a documented bug?
[04:23] <wolfric> do a slow startup and check to see if there are any cmos errors just incase thats whats causing it not grub
[04:24] <muaddib> hello all
[04:24] <Shadow147> bqmassy did you take note of what was the previous setup in grub or lilo of the kernels?
[04:24] <yaztromo> i cant think of anything except fixboot and fixmbr, which will completely overwrite grub
[04:24] <xcthulhu> hey muaddib
[04:24] <il12> ok, I have gotten the Ubuntu setup all the way to the part where you set the partitioning configs, but I want to makesure that it installs on my external HDD but does NOT wipe the data from it. How do I need to do this?
[04:24] <excelle> I am trying to get fluxbuntu to install off of the cd it is not bootable  it just skips it I have sucessfully installed xubuntu so i know my cd burning techniques are correct.
[04:24] <shawn3> Hello, when trying to play x264 576p video in mplayer on my desktop with 2.5 GHz cpu and 512 MB RAM, the video appears very slowed down.  Any help would be very appreciated :)
[04:25] <cipher_nemo_> Shpook: if you're still around, I updated the Ac97 drivers smoothly, but it didn't help. I gave up on that and put my Audigy card back into the PC
[04:25] <xcthulhu> excelle: Did you md5sum the image of fluxbuntu when you downloaded it?
[04:25] <Shadow147> shawn3 I would suggest you use VLC
[04:25] <osmosis> is there a way to setup a listening vncviewer ?
[04:25] <excelle> no i will try that thanks
[04:25] <bqmassey> Shadow147: setup?
[04:25] <osmosis> so that someone can connect to me and I can view their screen ?
[04:25] <xcthulhu> shawn3: What video card do you have?
[04:25] <shawn3> Shadow147, I will try this, but I am still unsure of why mplayer would be slow as my friend has a 1.8 GHz cpu and even 720p has no lag
[04:25] <osmosis> so i dont have to deal with their firewall
[04:26] <shawn3> xcthulhu, it's an intel integrated card
[04:26] <Shadow147> shawn3 thats weird
[04:26] <Shadow147> bqmassy what grub or lilo shows at boot like memtest86+
[04:26] <fabio_> open pgp key what is?
[04:26] <shawn3> xcthulhu, I've been told the video card does not actually play a major role in playing HD video, it's more the cpu, is this true?
[04:26] <xcthulhu> shawn3: ick.  Do you know if xorg is using vesafb or a native driver?
[04:26] <ottothecow> osmosis, not that I know of but you could try ssh tunneling
[04:27] <cipher_nemo_> My remote (native as HID in Ubuntu) has the volume control mapped to a sound device that is disabled. Any way I can remap it to work with the master volume of my sound card?
[04:27] <xcthulhu> shawn3: Not sure.
[04:27] <bqmassey> Shadow147:  grub still loads.. it errors out if i select any of the three ubuntu options.. including memtest86_
[04:27] <hwilde> yo my system locks up can I turn up the log level somehow to trace it ?
[04:27] <shawn3> xcthulhu, how do I tell if xorg is using vesafb or native driver?  I think it was recognized during installation
[04:27] <phaedral> trouble with wifi; the drivers no longer show in restricted drivers...
[04:27] <xcthulhu> shawn3: Are you using 7.10?
[04:27] <shawn3> xcthulhu, yes i am
[04:28] <Shadow147> bqmassy ok then grub is not looking for the right kernel and boot sequence
[04:28] <lonejack> hi all, somebody have aver seen this: "Dec 24 05:21:28 claudio-desktop sudo:  claudio : TTY=unknown ; PWD=/home/claudio ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/users-admin"
[04:28] <ottothecow> !gcc
[04:28] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[04:28] <lonejack> and how to solve
[04:28] <xcthulhu> shawn3: system->administration->screens and graphics
[04:28] <user11_011> how do i boot from a remote cdrom?
[04:28] <Shadow147> shawn3 I have a an old p3 processor and I can play vids just fine
[04:29] <shawn3> xcthulhu, what am i looking for exactly?
[04:29] <xcthulhu> shawn3: then, go to the graphics tab
[04:29] <xcthulhu> It should have a thing that says "driver"
[04:29] <bqmassey> Shadow147: how do i fix that? i've already forced windows to overwrite the MBR, and then restored grub
[04:29] <shawn3> xcthulhu it says intel experimental modsetting driver...
[04:29] <kikr> how do I stop xchat from blinking in the taskbar?
[04:29] <herbi1> i have tried and tried to get sound to work on aMSN with no luck..  ive edited the .tcl files  config.xml files and still no luck.. the cam works but no sound from the other end.  the sound works in Preferences tho. any ideas?
[04:29] <xcthulhu> shawn3: that's the right one then.
[04:30] <Shadow147> shawn3 most likely you don't have the right driver for your graphics card
[04:30] <shawn3> Shadow147, that's the thing, I thought it would be fine to play 576p but it's slow
[04:30] <ottothecow> anyone know how to get an mirc style channel list in xchat?
[04:30] <shawn3> Shadow147 I figured it would be the right driver, it's a common desktop I thought, a bit old: Dell Dimension 2400
[04:30] <hwilde_> yo my system locks up randomly, can I turn up the log level somehow to trace it ?
[04:30] <Shadow147> shawn3 what type of grapics card you have
[04:31] <shawn3> Shadow147, integrated intel graphics card, the driver is apparently intel experimental modsetting something or other
[04:31] <Creed> Is there a way I can mount SMB shares (or any kind of share) and have VLC or something similair be able to stream-play files from it?
[04:32] <phaedral> what to do if restricted drivers can't see the broadcom stuff?
[04:32] <Shadow147> shawn3 ew intergrated graphics cards have many problems with vids and other types of problems
[04:32] <snurtle> anyone know how to get tvtime to recognize my tv tuner
[04:32] <rabi> bqmassey: what happened to you? you can also boot linux from windows boot loader
[04:32] <shawn3> Shadow147 do you recommend I get a PCI graphics card?
[04:32] <Shadow147> shawn3 yes
[04:33] <wolfric> i know this isnt exactly to do with ubuntu but can you get custom written bios packages that will run on most boards?
[04:33] <shawn3> Shadow147 I do not think my motherboard supports AGP but is there a way to tell?
[04:33] <Shadow147> shawn3 or get a computer with a AGP graphics card
[04:33] <Schmick> snurtle, tvtime uses resources from Video 4 Linux...
[04:33] <]tyndareus]> hi all
[04:33] <ottothecow> it probably supports AGP
[04:33] <snurtle> so thats where i would get the drivers from?video for linux?
[04:33] <ottothecow> it has got to be quite old not to
[04:33] <Shadow147> shawn3 just look for a AGP slot on your motherboard
[04:33] <ottothecow> or pretty new
[04:33] <wolfric> i dont wnat to have to uninstall ubuntu but i dont think my current bios can handle it it keeps kicking it back to default when i boot up theres something it doesnt like
[04:34] <xcthulhu> shawn3: Can you find the exact model of your graphics card?
[04:34] <shawn3> Shadow147 all right will do
[04:34] <Schmick> snurtle, you need to check if there is a mod that can see your tunner .. I'll pm you..
[04:34] <xcthulhu> shawn3: you might need to google it to make sure you have the right driver...
[04:34] <Shadow147> shawn3 I would Suggest a Nvidia Card or ATI Card
[04:34] <bqmassey> Shadow147: any advice to my Grub happy?
[04:34] <user11_011> how do i boot from a remote cdrom?
[04:34] <ottothecow> you can get a lot of older/used nvidia or ati cards online for dirt cheap
[04:34] <shawn3> xcthulhu I'm not sure how I would find the exact model, I know that I have a Dell Dimension 2400 with whatever integrated card it came with
[04:34] <Shadow147> bqmassey try looking around the forum for a solution
[04:35] <]tyndareus]> any ideas why K3b takes an awful amount of time to load up.  I have dual layer memorex drive
[04:35] <Creed> Is there a way I can mount SMB shares (or any kind of share) and have VLC or something similair be able to stream-play files from it?\
[04:35] <xcthulhu> shawn3: You might try typing the command 'dmesg' and dig around in that until you see some mention of your graphics card
[04:35] <Schmick> snurtle,  what tvcard you got?
[04:35] <xcthulhu> There's also Preferences->Hardware Info
[04:35] <ottothecow> Creed, I used to use something that did that...let me see if I can remember
[04:36] <Shpook> crap, I was peeling apples....if anyone sees cipher_nemo around, try and give him a hand with his audio
[04:36] <ottothecow> used to be a default part of mandrake
[04:36] <shawn3> xcthulhu what about lspci if perhaps it's a pci card?
[04:36] <snurtle> its a  built in tv tuner came with sony desktop
[04:36] <excelle> Ok I verified the md5sum of my iso and it matched and other reasons my fluxbuntu install cd will not boot  automatically ?
[04:36] <snurtle> letme find the name hold on
[04:36] <xcthulhu> shawn3: There's lots of ways to probe your hardware.  I'd give that a shot
[04:36] <xcthulhu> maybe resort to digging through dmesg last
[04:36] <shawn3> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[04:36] <shawn3> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[04:36] <Creed> ottothecow, alright. I cant seem to get fusesmb working so any alternatives would be helpful.
[04:37] <Schmick> snurtle, try a lspci to see if it get's recognized by the system.. that's your first step.
[04:37] <snurtle> shit i cant find the name...its  a pci tv tuner  but came with the desktop
[04:37] <shawn3> xcthulhu, i wonder how to tell if the driver is correct, just google?
[04:37] <cav3man> is there any way to keep my icons on the taskbar from changing there positions?
[04:37] <snurtle> im sorry to sound dumb but lspci?
[04:37] <Schmick> snurtle, watch the language, this is a family -friendly channel.
[04:38] <Shadow147> shawn3 aw man intergrated cards share memory so overall performance is hurt big time
[04:38] <Schmick> snurtle, open a terminal and type lspci... lspci will list whatever is on your pci bus.
[04:38] <shawn3> Shadow147 what if I got more RAM?
[04:38] <xcthulhu> shawn3: yup
[04:38] <xcthulhu> shawn3: just google
[04:38] <Shadow147> shawn3 that will hwlp
[04:38] <]tyndareus]> trying to burn dvds with k3b but it executes very slowly
[04:38] <ottothecow> Creed, I mean you could certainly do it by hand with smbmount
[04:39] <ares623> What are good virtualisation apps out there?
[04:39] <herbi1> i have tried and tried to get sound to work on aMSN with no luck..  ive edited the .tcl files  config.xml files and still no luck.. the cam works but no sound from the other end.  the sound works in Preferences tho. any ideas?
[04:39] <shawn3> Shadow147 I know just the right RAM to get from newegg, hopefully it'll work out.  Also, I should have mentioned that .avi plays perfectly fine with no lag
[04:39] <snurtle> schmick i apologize and yes it  found it
[04:39] <snurtle> 06:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
[04:39] <scguy318> ares623: VMware, VirtualBox, QEMU
[04:40] <shawn3> xcthulhu if other videos such as .avi play fine, does that mean the driver is probably okay?
[04:40] <excelle> anyone know why I cant get a my Fluxbuntu Install cd to Boot. I verified the md5sum. they are the same any other reasons my cd would be messed up i burned it at slow speed to make sure it wasnt bad media
[04:40] <Creed> ottothecow, smbmount doesnt allow programs like VLC or XMMS to see th share and stream things from it sadly :(
[04:40] <ares623> is QEMU free?
[04:40] <Schmick> snurtle, ok.. it seems the chip it uses is CX23416
[04:40] <Creed> ares623, yes
[04:40] <Shadow147> shawn3 make sure to look at your RAM boards and find out how much more ram it can support
[04:40] <xcthulhu> shawn3: hmm... yeah, it probably is.
[04:40] <ares623> thanks..
[04:40] <ottothecow> Creed, if you install smbfs and mount it, it doesnt show up in the browser for vlc?
[04:40] <Shpook> Alright, to re-iterate, i'm having problems with programs not opening. I finally got an error message from one. Here it is:
[04:40] <Shadow147> shawn3 your computer can
[04:40] <ares623> Oh yeah, does it support video cards?
[04:41] <shawn3> Shadow147 how can i tell by looking at the ram boards
[04:41] <Schmick> so, now, type lsmod | grep CX23416 to see if something that manages it, is loaded.
[04:41] <ares623> i tried vbox, but my vid card doesnt work on the guest
[04:41] <Shpook> http://pastebin.org/12682
[04:41] <xcthulhu> shawn3: You might consider using fluxbox, which uses less memory than Gnome
[04:41] <Shadow147> shawn3 the ram boards with tell you the size of the RAM per module and ther Mhz
[04:41] <shawn3> xcthulhu i noticed when i typed 'free' the command, almost all memory was taken up
[04:41] <kikr> hey, I just installed the Adobe Flash Player, but flash is still not working on websites.  anyone know what's going on here?
[04:42] <wastedfluid> hey; trying to get ubuntu to copy my laptop screen onto a LCD I have.. the problem is, at the main login screen - it works, after you login, my monitor says no support.. any ideas?
[04:42] <slavik> shawn3: Linux takes available ram for buffers and cache :)
[04:42] <snurtle> so how do i go about getting thatto work with tv time?
[04:42] <Creed> ottothecow, cifs seems to be working for me right now so I think Ill stick with it.
[04:42] <snurtle> schmick sorry
[04:42] <shawn3> Mem:        514320     508328       5992  Shadow147 this is total, used, and free; does this seem like it needs to be upgraded?
[04:42] <Benalex> excelle: join #fluxbuntu
[04:42] <xcthulhu> shawn3:  You should use "ps aux" to figure out where all the memory is going
[04:42] <xcthulhu> if it's something you don't need, you should kill it
[04:43] <slavik> anyone know if it's possible to tell apt to install packages to a mountpoint instead of a live system?
[04:43] <arooni-mobile> is there activesync replacement software for ubuntu gutsy?
[04:43] <mrdinkles> Looking for bcmwl5.inf dl-- anyone know a good walk through for ndiswrapper
[04:43] <snurtle> schmick do i just download the driver for it somewhere?
[04:43] <slavik> arooni-mobile: for palm or for windows mobile?
[04:43] <ottothecow> Creed, I would suggest apt-get install smbfs and then mounting it like sudo mount //HOST/SHARE /media/SHARE/ -o username=user,dmask=777,fmask=777
[04:43] <excelle> thanks i will try there
[04:43] <scguy318> mrdinkles: google SetupNdiswrapperHowTo, first hit
[04:43] <Benalex> slavik: you are trying to make the live session persistent am i right?
[04:43] <Schmick> snurtle, I googled CX23416 and it's just an encoder.. not the tuner itself..
[04:43] <shawn3> xcthulhu the only thing i try to run is mplayer, i wonder if not loading up gnome would help, but i think i've tried that before and it didn't work
[04:43] <arooni-mobile> slavik, windows mobile 6 pro
[04:43] <slavik> Benalex: I want to create an ubuntu install on a partable drive without rebooting and such
[04:44] <slavik> arooni-mobile: try the wiki ...
[04:44] <arooni-mobile> slavik, what wiki
[04:44] <MrPiracy> any tutorial site showing how to install kiba-dock on ubuntu gutsy gibbon?
[04:44] <slavik> wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:44] <kdubois> so why, exactly, when i modify fstab and reboot, its not what I modified it to??
[04:44] <snurtle> then i guess it cant find it
[04:44] <mshadle> is there a way to tell iptables for a certain address (or eth1:3 alias) to NOT use NAT/etc? using standard POSTROUTING ?
[04:44] <Shadow147> shawn3 your system may support 1.5GB of Ram I know mine may only support another 512MB of Ram
[04:44] <xcthulhu> shawn3: What's using up all of your memory?
[04:44] <Schmick> snurtle, there is no such thing as driver, we call it modules... you need to find the module that supports your  tuner and then load it..
[04:44] <arooni-mobile> slavik, where od i find it
[04:44] <xcthulhu> shawn3: It's probably something you don't need...
[04:44] <shawn3> xcthulhu i'm not sure actually, ps aux listed a bunch of stuff
[04:44] <slavik> in the search ...
[04:45] <snurtle> ok thank you
[04:45] <xcthulhu> shawn3: You have to crawl the mem% column
[04:45] <Schmick> snurtle, so, first thing, you might be better pasting the lspci to ubuntu's pastebin to let me have a look at it.
[04:45] <cav3man> im using 512 memory, and right now it's only using 30% of it
[04:45] <fabio_> https://launchpad.net/~fabiomiguel3
[04:45] <errorlevel> I upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy.  The window manager is messed up.  I removed compiz.  Metacity is running.  Metacity is set to be the current and default window manager in gconf.  I am using Clearlooks for the theme.  The problem is that the window icon is misaligned (it is about the distance from the side of the window as the gnome menu is wide.)
[04:45] <Creed> ottothecow, isnt smbfs deprecated in favor of cifs?
[04:45] <errorlevel> I am also missing the minimize, maximize and close buttons at the top of my window.
[04:46] <Schmick> snurtle, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[04:46] <errorlevel> I tried google, but couldn't come up with anything since everybody else who seemed to have the problem was using compiz.
[04:46] <shawn3> xcthulhu it's tons of stuff that i don't recognize, I think i'll try to play mplayer without logging into gnome and if that does not work, upgrade RAM
[04:47] <cav3man> i'm using compiz with emerald, no problems like that here
[04:47] <Schmick> !pastebin| snurtle
[04:47] <ubotu> snurtle: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:47] <Shadow147> shawn3 also make sure when u get another graphics card disable or intergrated card
[04:47] <ottothecow> Creed, you're right...guess I should drop my outdated technology :)
[04:48] <Shadow147> shawn3 you may want to talk to a computer tech either at a computer store or best buy
[04:48] <Creed> ottothecow, heh hey if it works great, keep on using it! :D
[04:48] <shawn3> Shadow147 I'm leaning more toward getting more RAM than another graphics card since overall performance is slow
[04:48] <Creed> ottothecow, *hugs his Apple II*
[04:48] <hwilde> I think that NetworkManager is locking up my computer.  The last line in the syslog before the restarts are errors from NetworkManager:  Dec 23 23:29:52 hw900 NetworkManager: <WARN>  nm_dbus_get_networks_cb(): error received: org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo.NoNetworks - There are no wireless networks stored.
[04:48] <Shadow147> Creed I remember the old Apple II
[04:49] <Creed> Shadow147, I still use mine from time to time :)
[04:49] <SykOrakel> hi everyone. I just set up Ubuntu server and I was wondering if anybody could point me to a fix to make aptitude render properly in gnu screen
[04:49] <anton>  hm "checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no<----what does that mean? trying to do ./configur
[04:49] <Shadow147> Creed I used to own a Apple IIgs with GS/OS System 6.0.1
[04:49] <hwilde> anton, apt-get install g++
[04:49] <ottothecow> I just set up a ubuntu server and aptitude renders right...whats wrong with yours?
[04:49] <Schmick> lol.. I used to program an Apple IIc :P
[04:50] <Schmick> snurtle ?
[04:50] <Shadow147> Creed I play my old Apple classic games on Kegs
[04:50] <scguy318> anton: It means you need to install build-essential: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[04:51] <SykOrakel> when i try to run it screen, opening up search (with /) doesn't give me what should look like a search box; it gives a blob with with question marks in it
[04:51] <anton> aha, thanks
[04:51] <SykOrakel> it works fine when i run it from term though
[04:51] <Shadow147> anton if you want u can use sudo apt-get install
[04:51] <SykOrakel> the problem is just in screen
[04:51] <ottothecow> SykOrakel, sorry, I've got no idea then
[04:51] <anton> Ok. I really need cd?
[04:51] <SykOrakel> ottothecow thanks anyway
[04:52] <Shadow147> anton the command cd?
[04:52] <sonic_> 圣诞快乐
[04:52] <IdleOne> !cn3
[04:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cn3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:52] <Shadow147> anton or your ubuntu CD?
[04:52] <IdleOne> !cn
[04:52] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[04:52] <anton> " hm "checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... n"
[04:52] <anton> oops, sorry
[04:52] <lonejack> hi, problem: the system doesn't see an HD. How can I correct this problem?
[04:52] <Schmick> guess snurtle couln't take it.  geez.
[04:52] <anton> " Please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_"
[04:52] <SykOrakel> i figure it has more to do with screen and ncurses than anything to do with aptitude, but i hoped that somebody else may have run into a solution already
[04:52] <Shadow147> anton then yes
[04:52] <anton> okoj
[04:52] <cav3man> SykOrakel, are you running screen from tty (ctrl-alt-F2)?
[04:53] <sonic_> 这里有会中文的吗？
[04:53] <scguy318> anton: if you don't want to insert your Ubuntu CD to install packages, uncheck the CD repository in Software Sources
[04:53] <herbi1> i have tried and tried to get sound to work on aMSN with no luck..  ive edited the .tcl files  config.xml files and still no luck.. the cam works but no sound from the other end.  the sound works in Preferences tho. any ideas?
[04:53] <cav3man> oh, thats right, you are using server, nevermind
[04:53] <anton> I see!
[04:53] <scguy318> herbi1: don't you need to install libsnack?
[04:53] <SykOrakel> cav3man, no, I am running from an ssh client, but I'm pretty sure I get similar problems from the tty
[04:54] <u> is this is right channel to ask for hardware/system support?
[04:54] <Shadow147> sonic_ | !cn
[04:54] <sonic_> oh my god
[04:54] <herbi1> scguy  snack is installed
[04:54] <wastedfluid> hey, anyone successfully connected an external monitor to their laptop w/ gutsy?  it works fine until you log in.. and then it loses the signal.  i'm assuming something is not configured
[04:54] <sksol> hey guys, i need some help installing the flash plugin in gutsy
[04:54] <anton> configure: error: Cannot find GTKL Is gtk-config in your path?
[04:54] <anton> <---hm?
[04:54] <Schmick> u, just ask.
[04:54] <Benalex> u: yes, if it is related to ubuntu :
[04:55] <cav3man> sksol, it's broke
[04:55] <Shadow147> anton !find gtk
[04:55] <sksol> m?
[04:55] <anton> ok
[04:55] <scguy318> sksol: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/173890 for some debs
[04:55] <sksol> what u mean?
[04:55] <u> of course its related... im trying to install ubuntu but i cant yet
[04:55] <u> got a new replacement asus p4p800 mobo and test ran it 2 month ago, and it worked fine outside of the case.  yesterday, i finally threw in everything and connected all that should be connected in my case, but no go.  no boot screens what-so-ever.  i have tested/switched monitors (lcd - crt), switched vga cards, and many variations. if anyone knows whats wrong, please holla! thx
[04:55] <sksol> man, you seriuos?
[04:55] <u>  not forgetting to mention, i tried plugging only the essentials (vga, mem, cpu, mobo power(s)) but nothing but blackness
[04:55] <hwilde> wastedfluid, only way I can get my laptop to export the display is reboot into windows, fn+f7, then reboot into ubuntu.
[04:55] <anton> Shadow147: bash: !find: event not found
[04:55] <scguy318> sksol: as of now, the flashplugin-nonfree package does NOT work due to Adobe updating their Flash plugin, thus breaking the MD5 check
[04:55] <scguy318> sksol: see the bug link for info and some packages
[04:56] <Shadow147> anton do you have gtk-config installed?
[04:56] <Schmick> u, where u able to boot livecd?
[04:56] <sksol> oo, ok ok, thanks a lot guys
[04:56] <sksol> ill look into that bug
[04:56] <anton> Hm, dunno...sudo apt-get install gtk-config?
[04:56] <Shadow147> anton what are you compiling anyways
[04:56] <anton> a program
[04:56] <u> Schmick i cannot see anything on my screen...
[04:56] <Benalex> u:... have you checked any shorts with case?
[04:56] <anton> stompboxes 2
[04:56] <Shadow147> anton I don't know that program
[04:57] <u> Benalex i dont know how to... that could be it, but i just got another mobo from asus
[04:57] <anton> Ok. Where to find gtk-config?
[04:57] <scguy318> u: is there a short somewhere inside your case? if you haven't thought of that
[04:57] <Schmick> u, but did you get past POST? (any beeps from pc-speaker?)
[04:57] <HardDisk> it IS possible he got a bricked mobo
[04:57] <open-gl> i install ubuntu into my laptop now I want windows xp also. I don't want ubuntu to be deleted if I install windows xp and the files I have. Will install windows xp be fine.
[04:57] <scguy318> HardDisk: thats possible, though he said he did test before putting into case and worked fine
[04:57] <Shadow147> anton try sudo apt-get install gtk
[04:58] <[gquit]bombadil> is there a wxpython metapackage?
[04:58] <Benalex> u, get back the mobo outside again... and check!
[04:58] <anton> couldn't find package gtk
[04:58] <u> Benalex do u think i could have shorted something by plugging in the jumper/pins (built-in speakers, power switch, reset switch, LEDs) wrong?  i followed the manuel correctly...
[04:58] <Shadow147> anton ok look around the forums
[04:58] <u> Benalex maybe i should...
[04:59] <Schmick> open-gl, you can install xp on a diferent partition, but usually xp will overwrite GRUB... easy step.. install xp first, ubutu second
[04:59] <HardDisk> scguy318, electrical issues he may have done unto himself.
[04:59] <u> Benalex i have just been too upset to take it all out again..
[04:59] <Benalex> u, no I mean the mobo is touchnig some metal in the case itself... just get it out and check again
[04:59] <open-gl> ok thanks
[04:59] <scguy318> anton: if your app wants gtk-config, it probably wants GTK 1
[04:59] <HardDisk> u, unplug everything, just plug in cpu, ram and electrical plugs from the PSU
[04:59] <open-gl> so to just be sure i will save all my files
[04:59] <Benalex> u, I know it is annoying but this is the price of having your pc naked all the time ;P
[05:00] <HardDisk> dude, all my pc's are nekked :) I like em that way, so fresh and so clean clean
[05:00]  * Schmick 's pc doesn't even have any screws left.. snif...
[05:00] <justnulling2> my box just crashed 7.10amd64 anyone call tell me what is wrong http://pastebin.com/m465a935f
[05:00] <u> scguy318 i where can i test a short?  and i do not get monitor signals... i.e. no wake when turning on the comp power
[05:00] <anton> scguy: So I'll install that?
[05:00] <scguy318> anton: the devel package for it yes
[05:00] <scguy318> anton: gimme a sec
[05:00] <anton> ok!
[05:00] <HardDisk> u, you'll need an ammeter
[05:00] <Benalex> HardDisk: its just you ... ben7eb kol 7aga NaKeD ;)
[05:00] <HardDisk> haha
[05:01] <scguy318> u: I would probably look to see if there's unwanted metal contact somewhere, but do what someone said and remove that mobo from the case
[05:01] <HardDisk> u, seriously if you have no clue about this, don't you have a friend who can help?
[05:01] <u> HardDisk i have tried plugging in only the essentials... i will try and take the components out again and see if there's any actual shortages
[05:01] <Schmick> u, when the pc fists starts up, it runs a Power On Self Test (POST).. it signals everything is ok by a single beep on the pc speaker.. if you don't get the beep, do as Benalex  says.
[05:01] <HardDisk> yea you should do that
[05:02] <HardDisk> Schmick, unless he didn't plug in the speakers :)
[05:02] <HardDisk> "oooo lovely magnet"
[05:02] <u> Benalex i'll take ur advice
[05:02] <errorlevel> Does anybody know what could be causing Metacity (I completely removed Compiz) from showing window titlebars correctly?  Using any installed themes for Gutsy yields no max, min, or close buttons.  This was an upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. :)
[05:02] <barbguar> I have a problem with fspot. I imported a whole lot of photos from my old machine and I ended up with duplicates of almost every photo. The dups all ended with "-1.JPG" on the end so I deleted them all via the command line. However, f-spot still thinks the photos are there. Can anyone tell me how to go about removing the references in f-spot?
[05:02] <scguy318> anton: install package libgtk1.2-dev
[05:02] <Schmick> lol yes HardDisk, but that qualifies as a problem as well.. lol..
[05:02] <HardDisk> :)
[05:02] <Acetylcholine> good link
[05:02] <Benalex> u, my pleasure, just don't forget to transfer a good money for this :)
[05:02] <Acetylcholine> click
[05:02] <u> Schmick no beep or smiles =(
[05:03] <HardDisk> !spam | Acetylcholine
[05:03] <ubotu> Acetylcholine: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense...
[05:03] <anton> scguy ok!
[05:03] <crimsun> Acetylcholine: um, don't do that.
[05:03] <Acetylcholine> crimsun: OKAYT
[05:03] <scguy318> !ops | Acetylcholine
[05:03] <ubotu> Acetylcholine: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[05:03] <Acetylcholine> !spam | HardDisk
[05:03] <ubotu> HardDisk: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense...
[05:03] <Schmick> ok then u, follow Benalex valuable advice..
[05:03] <HardDisk> !ops | Acetylcholine
[05:03] <u> lol...
[05:03] <HardDisk> gawd damn it
[05:03] <u> i will
[05:03] <u> im a techie.. but not really a good techie for my own pc
[05:04] <HardDisk> don't worry about it
[05:04] <u> -_-
[05:04] <u> brb
[05:04] <Shadow147> u how long have u use ubuntu or any other linux flavors?
[05:04] <HardDisk> I like chocolate.
[05:04] <moDumass> Acetylcholine, that link was, man, thats wrong.. funny but, man... arg
[05:04] <justnulling2> any one can look at the logs and tell me what's going on, i not sure if it is a software or hardware problem http://pastebin.com/m465a935f
[05:04] <Speedinbil_> I am having no luck getting my xubuntu online with an old machine.  I have pppoe dsl modem
[05:05] <quigz>  does anyone know if there are key bindings for minizing windows?
[05:05] <HardDisk> quigz, check keyboard shortcuts
[05:05] <pteague> evga or xfx nvidia ?
[05:05] <barbguar>  I have a problem with fspot. I imported a whole lot of photos from my old machine and I ended up with duplicates of almost every photo. The dups all ended with "-1.JPG" on the end so I deleted them all via the command line. However, f-spot still thinks the photos are there. Can anyone tell me how to go about removing the references in f-spot?
[05:05] <ryansmith> how do I set my gid and uid in /etc/fstab to give read permissions to everybody?
[05:05] <Speedinbil_> I set the connection to dhcp auto and the packets sent and received are the same for the local host, but cant get online
[05:05] <HardDisk> it would help if some people ( and I don't mean you specifically) if they just try to experiment by clicking on each command icon in their application/system menus
[05:06] <kikr> yo I need some help. I have installed the flash player plugin, however, when I visit a site that requires flash the flash still doesn't load. can someone help?
[05:06] <bullgard4> How to find out the official purpose of the sleep.sh file?
[05:06] <anton> scguy, getting some errors during "make"
[05:06] <crimsun> kikr: you're probably running feisty or gutsy?
[05:06] <HardDisk> !brokenflash | kikr
[05:06] <ubotu> kikr: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[05:06] <skullhead> dos any one know how to install the psx emulator epsxe???
[05:06] <Speedinbil_> pppoeconf says the network is down
[05:06] <HardDisk> skullhead, still trying to get it to work huh..
[05:07] <anton> scguy318: Would it be ok if I posted a link from pastebin??
[05:07] <kikr> thanks
[05:07] <sksol> hey guys, i have a laptop, and it always dims when i take the power cord out. how do i make it always be on full brightness?
[05:07] <sksol> i got gutsy
[05:07] <anton> http://pastebin.org/12683 <---why those errors?
[05:07] <jdlizard> how can i access my shared files from the internet
[05:07] <barbguar> I know that I can remove each photo from the catalogue individually but there are 1500 duplicates... it would be great if someone could tell me a way to fix it on mass
[05:07] <skullhead> HardDisk: ya the pcsx sucks and if i try to install epsxe it wont open when i type epsxe in terminal
[05:07] <Schmick> justnulling2, xorg is crashing when calling the nvidia drivers.
[05:07] <HardDisk> sksol power management in screensaver...
[05:07] <scguy318> anton: sure
[05:07] <scguy318> anton: lemme look
[05:08] <anton> Thanks :)
[05:08] <Benalex> sksol: this happens only with gutsy ?.. or also in windows?
[05:08] <justnulling2> schmick: thanks
[05:08] <HardDisk> Benalex, that's normal, it's power saving.
[05:08] <Schmick> justnulling2, check the driver.. fall back to vesa and go on from there.
[05:08] <NeoGeo64> hello
[05:08] <bmidgley> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/dists/feisty/free/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[05:08] <sksol> whoa, im stupid
[05:08] <Benalex> HardDisk: I have seen it in HP laps.. and couldn't disable it under windows
[05:08] <bmidgley> when trying to upgrade feisty
[05:08] <sksol> thanks!
[05:09] <HardDisk> yea well HP lappies are made with thousands of child slaves, what do you expect.
[05:09] <gary4gar> hello People :), my pc is being lagging, when i saw output of top, there was a process named IRQ-21, eating all CPU time. i tried sudo kill <pid> but nothing happened. how do i end it?
[05:09] <NeoGeo64> Will Ubuntn run good on this system:  Intel Quad Core 2.4ghz, 2gb ram
[05:09] <kriztofo> anyone have experience installing ubuntu on an HP s3200n?
[05:09] <erat124> NeoGeo64: yep
[05:09] <scguy318> anton: looks like you need to try using gcc 3.x
[05:09] <HardDisk> NeoGeo64, is that a legit question?
[05:09] <worldcitizen_09> hello my mplayer opens slowly
[05:09] <NeoGeo64> ys
[05:09] <anton> scguy318: Which means?
[05:09] <justnulling2> schmick: hmm video card is from an old machine and it worked fine then in 32bit or is it nvidea chipset?
[05:09] <scguy318> anton: apparently the author of that piece of code does something that's not really legal C
[05:09] <Benalex> NeoGeo64: Sure!!
[05:09] <Shadow147> bmidgley would be best to backup you .deb files and fresh install gutsy
[05:09] <scguy318> anton: oh install diff gcc package
[05:10] <HardDisk> cause ubuntu will run on a P2 even
[05:10] <herbi1> gary4gar  did you use kill -9  pid
[05:10] <NeoGeo64> im asking cuz
[05:10] <NeoGeo64> vista runs like shit on it
[05:10] <worldcitizen_09> hello my mplayer opens slowly is it normal in ubuntu gusty
[05:10] <anton> scguy318: Ok...how? :)
[05:10] <gary4gar> herbi1, nopes...will try now
[05:10] <NeoGeo64> feels like its about 333MHz
[05:10] <HardDisk> NeoGeo64, yea but that's vista.
[05:10] <NeoGeo64> p2
[05:10] <HardDisk> it's still buggy
[05:10] <NeoGeo64> vista insulted my intelligence
[05:10] <HardDisk> you could wait for service pack 1
[05:10] <NeoGeo64> no
[05:10] <NeoGeo64> im just not going to use it. ever.
[05:10] <Schmick> justnulling2, the crash occured while calling an nvidia proc.. guess you got the wrong video module/driver installed.
[05:10] <HardDisk> good lad.
[05:11] <worldcitizen_09> :-(hello my mplayer opens slowly is it normal in ubuntu gusty?
[05:11] <NeoGeo64> my dell came with vista that didnt even have network, card or graphics drivers installed
[05:11] <NeoGeo64> how fucked is that?
[05:11] <scguy318> anton: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.3 after you remove gcc-4.2
[05:11] <Fujitsu> !ohmy | NeoGeo64
[05:11] <brokenFUN> So i have a 1680x1050 screen. How do i get the tty in that resolution?
[05:11] <ubotu> NeoGeo64: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[05:11] <anton> ok, thanks
[05:11] <gary4gar> herbi1, no difference, i think its getting restarted as soon as we try to kill it, not sure though
[05:11] <HardDisk> brokenFUN, nvidia videocard?
[05:11] <gary4gar> herbi1, tried with -9 also :)
[05:11] <brokenFUN> ati
[05:11] <NeoGeo64> vista insisted i use PPPOE
[05:11] <barbguar> does anyone know how to refresh the catalogue in f-spot so that all of the images that have been deleted are no longer shown
[05:11] <NeoGeo64> i never use pppoe
[05:12] <NeoGeo64> pppoe is is for aol lamers with usb modems
[05:12] <herbi1> gary4gar   sorry.,   that as far as my knowledge goes on the kill command
[05:12] <kriztofo> when I boot the install disk, either 7.10 live or a daily aternative, keyboard and mouse dont respond
[05:12] <anton> scguy318: Still getting those errors.
[05:12] <HardDisk> brokenFUN, personally I don't do ATI, but I know there is an ATI-settings somewhere
[05:12] <gary4gar> herbi1, no problem, i will ask others
[05:12] <herbi1> great
[05:12] <Schmick> NeoGeo64, that's true for us customers.. not for all of us.. (I got pppoe)
[05:12] <brokenFUN> whats the number? like vga=7??
[05:13] <brokenFUN> where's the tut for that stuff?
[05:13] <HardDisk> google?
[05:13] <sksol> hey guys, in windows i used a program called winscp (for connecting to my school server via ssh), what can i use in gutsy?
[05:13] <scguy318> anton: you've remove gcc-4.2? try ./configure again then make
[05:13] <anton> ah ok
[05:13] <Fujitsu> sksol: scp or ssh
[05:13] <brokenFUN> meh ok google
[05:13] <barbguar> Thanks anywayt
[05:13] <gary4gar> hello People :), my pc is being lagging, when i saw output of top, there was a process named IRQ-21, eating all CPU time. i tried sudo kill <pid> but nothing happened. how do i end it?
[05:13] <scguy318> sksol: gFTP supports SFTP I think
[05:13] <Schmick> sksol, ssh :)
[05:13] <Speedinbil_> neogeo64: does it matter trying to connect with pppoe or pppoa in xubuntu?
[05:13] <sksol> heh
[05:14] <sksol> so its built in already?
[05:14] <sksol> ssh?
[05:14] <scguy318> sksol: yep
[05:14] <Schmick> yep
[05:14] <anton> scguy318: yeah, still errors :/
[05:14] <sksol> :)
[05:14] <Fujitsu> sksol: Of course. Only Windows doesn't come with it.
[05:14] <sksol> thanks
[05:15] <Schmick> gary4gar, kill -9 <pid>
[05:15] <Schmick> *sudo kill -9 <pid> sorry..
[05:15] <gary4gar> Schmick, tried already, no difference
[05:15] <Schmick> with sudo?
[05:15] <gary4gar> yeah
[05:15] <scguy318> anton: hmm, you probably should Google around, might be a bit out of luck at the moment :(
[05:15] <anton> oh ok :(
[05:16] <Schmick> checked the parentPID gary4gar ?
[05:16] <gary4gar> Schmick, parentPID?
[05:16] <Schmick> try to track it back to the parent proc
[05:16] <gary4gar> how?
[05:16] <scguy318> anton: there seems to be a newer stompboxes apparenty
[05:16] <anton> oh?
[05:16] <scguy318> anton: version 0.3 as opposed to what I see for yours as 0.2?
[05:16] <scguy318> anton: just google stompboxes2
[05:17] <anton> aha, thanks
[05:18] <anton> scguy318 getting the same errors :(
[05:18] <conal> what's recommended for accessing a Windows-networked printer?
[05:19] <gary4gar> conal, smb using samba
[05:19] <conal> gary4gar: thanks.  i'll look into samba.
[05:19] <scguy318> anton: mm :(
[05:19] <gary4gar> conal, check at help.ubuntu.com
[05:19] <CoasterMaster> Is there a way I can install Firefox 3 beta 2 on Ubuntu?
[05:19] <conal> gary4gar: will do.  thanks.
[05:19] <xcthulhu> conal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32190
[05:20] <xcthulhu> conal: That was the first google hit...
[05:20] <HardDisk> !g firefox 3 ubuntu
[05:20] <HardDisk> hmm no google today.
[05:20] <gary4gar> CoasterMaster, not unless you download it & install yourself :p
[05:20] <Schmick> gary4gar, us pstree... follow the branches.
[05:21] <gary4gar> Schmick, real new to this, please guide, how ?
[05:21] <muaddib> has anyone had a problem with java applications working with compiz
[05:21] <Schmick> open a terminal.. and type pstree
[05:21] <muaddib> I had to disable for now in order to get jajuk to run
[05:21] <Schmick> you'll get a tree type process with branching.. trace back irq-21...
[05:21] <Jack_Sparrow> muaddib: try asking in #Compiz-fusion
[05:21] <xcthulhu> muaddib: No... but I had problems with java plugins in firefox
[05:22] <Nikolai> guys, can anyone help? i cant boot up from a live CD. My old monitor cant handle the resolution :( anyone? thx!
[05:22] <xcthulhu> muaddib: Are you having problems with firefox?
[05:22] <anton> scguy318: here's all the info, if it's any good...ignore the last 9 rows http://pastebin.org/12685
[05:22] <bullgard4> How to find out the official purpose of the sleep.sh file?
[05:22] <gary4gar> Schmick, no sign of IRQ-21 there
[05:22] <Benalex> Nikolai: boot in safe graphix mode
[05:22] <gary4gar> hello People :), my pc is being lagging, when i saw output of top, there was a process named IRQ-21, eating all CPU time. i tried sudo kill <pid> but nothing happened. how do i end it?
[05:22] <HardDisk> Benalex, you mean recovery mode.
[05:22] <Nikolai> Benalex: dont help eather
[05:22] <HardDisk> too much windows on yer mind :)
[05:23] <xcthulhu> gary4gar: You could use "kill -9", but you really shouldn't do that.
[05:23] <Benalex> Nikolai: are you sure it's your monitor?
[05:23] <Schmick> gees gary4gar .. hmmmm... pstree -H <pid> ?
[05:24] <gary4gar> xcthulhu, tried that, even as i root, still no difference
[05:24] <Nikolai> Benalex: i got the picture, but its flickering. yes im sure. cuz with other monitor everything worked good.
[05:24] <bazz> is the bcm43xx driver in gutsy the softmac or dscape one?
[05:25] <scguy318> anton: i dunno what else to do unfortunately :(
[05:25] <biotrox> !radeon mobility
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radeon mobility - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <Anubyss> need help with getting the cube to show on my desktop for compiz fusion, I have the wobbly window and fading window and when I click on the bottom right corner I see my desktop rotating. However, I would like to have the cube on my desktop and have the ability to click and drag left or right to rotate my desktop, any ideas of what I need to do?
[05:25] <Benalex> Nikolai: try to lower the refresh rate
[05:25] <anton> scguy318: Ok, thanks for the help man
[05:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Nikolai: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:25] <biotrox> !ati
[05:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:25] <gary4gar> Schmick, can't find :(
[05:25] <jack_> hello
[05:25] <Nikolai> Jack_Sparrow: thx; i guess thats what i need. ill try :)
[05:26] <Nikolai> Benalex: how?
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !ccsm > Anubyss
[05:26] <Anubyss> yes I have that
[05:26] <Benalex> system>preferences > display settings
[05:26] <Anubyss> but what feature do I need to touch in order to get this to work
[05:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Anubyss: the answers on that will be in #compiz-fusion
[05:26] <gary4gar> hello People :), my pc is being lagging, when i saw output of top, there was a process named IRQ-21, eating all CPU time. i tried sudo kill 9 <pid> but nothing happened. how do i end it?
[05:27] <Schmick> gary4gar, .. next try... 'ps  a -f'  ppid is the parent process..
[05:27] <zero88> if i didnt have a mouse connected to my computer. how would i use it as if i did have a mouse?
[05:27] <Anubyss> what do you mean, go to compiz fusion web page
[05:27] <jack_> anyone testing the beta?
[05:27] <gary4gar> Schmick, whats the parent process, i can't find it in tree :|
[05:27] <Koffo> Anyone know what's wrong when Wine doesnt save your settings?
[05:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Anubyss: to their channel...
[05:28] <jetscreamer> shift+numlock, zero and the keypad does the mouse
[05:28] <jetscreamer> shift+numlock again to return
[05:28] <Anubyss> ok thanks sparrow
[05:28] <Nikolai> Benalex: heh. the pc is fresh now. nothing installed on pc. and old monitor is connected. and i wanna install 7.10 on it. but monitor wont do it nice :(
[05:28] <zero88> jetscreamer ok thanks
[05:28] <Schmick> gary4gar, in pstree if a process has a branch to the right.. thoes are the child process..
[05:29] <Benalex> Nikolai: isn't live session up yet?
[05:29] <gary4gar> Schmick, i can't find anything named IRQ-21 in there :(
[05:29] <jetscreamer> Nikolai: use the xvrefresh and hvrefresh directives on the boot: line
[05:29] <jetscreamer> see also xmodule
[05:29] <VVelox> If I need tap support, what should I install?
[05:29] <underdaw1> I'm following the ubuntu hamachi/vnc directions and it worked on my local box, but it's not working on my 7.10 ssh remote box... when I type the sudo hamachi-init -c /etc/hamachi nothing happens... and when I do a ls in /etc I don't see hamachi... any suggestions?
[05:29] <Nikolai> Benalex: thats what the problem is. i cant start live session. monitor cant handle it. even by changing resolution, by pressing F4.
[05:29] <Schmick> gary4gar, and do you see it if you type 'ps a -f' ?
[05:30] <zero88> does gparted let you shrink windows vista? becuase i was not able to
[05:30] <HardDisk> dudes
[05:30] <gary4gar> Schmick, okay
[05:30] <HardDisk> if you did some googling, IRQ-21 is the soundcard
[05:30] <HardDisk> instead of debating and wasting time
[05:30]  * jetscreamer doesn't trust parted
[05:30] <Benalex> do what jetscreamer said... and I suggest you do some reading in ubuntu community help
[05:30]  * nickrud echos jetscreamer
[05:30] <Nikolai> Jetscreamer: more info on that?:)
[05:30] <HardDisk> don't use gparted to shrink vista.
[05:31] <HardDisk> use vista's own inbuilt app to shrink it
[05:31] <bascule> all partition resize software is dodgy
[05:31] <gary4gar> HardDisk, i would do that, but my X is not working, so i am left on terminal, so i can't google
[05:31] <Schmick> sure HardDisk, but it's a nice exercise
[05:31] <nickrud> HardDisk, now you tell me :)
[05:31] <HardDisk> gparted on vista :) haahaha
[05:31] <sksol> guys, how to i copy a file using scp if it has line breaks in the name?  (sorry, not exactly a ubuntu question)
[05:31] <HardDisk> besides
[05:31] <bascule> gary4gar: apt-get install links
[05:31] <HardDisk> you should be upgrading to xp
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> zero88: I prefer to use the stand alone gparted LIVECD rather than the one in the ubuntu livecd
[05:31] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, that's lame, cause it's the same.
[05:31] <jetscreamer> Nikolai: supply the proper values, xvrefresh= et al, xmodule=nvidia .. google knoppix or kanotix cheat codes, some if not most work on the ubuntu install cd ... google your monitor if you don't know the proper values
[05:31] <xcthulhu> sksol:  Use wildcards, like ? and *
[05:32] <sksol> oo, thanks
[05:32] <Ash_Heron> chicken and chips :D
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk: Behave.. they are NOT the same
[05:32] <Benalex> Nikolai: He said  Nikolai: use the xvrefresh and hvrefresh directives on the boot: line and see also xmodule
[05:32] <zero88> Jack_Sparrow, ok
[05:32] <HardDisk> Jack_Sparrow, they are.
[05:32] <jetscreamer> err xmodule=nv rather
[05:32] <gary4gar> bascule, are you sure on spelling?, ins't it spelled lynx??
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> HardDisk: NO they are not.
[05:32] <jetscreamer> there is a links and a lynx
[05:32] <jack_> anyone testing the beta? thoughts on it?
[05:32] <jetscreamer> and elinks
[05:32] <bascule> gary4gar: there are both lynx and links
[05:32] <nickrud> jack_, ask on #ubuntu+1 , the crazies hang out there
[05:32]  * gary4gar says damm i can't google
[05:33] <underdaw1> I'm following the ubuntu hamachi/vnc directions and it worked on my local box, but it's not working on my 7.10 ssh remote box... when I type the sudo hamachi-init -c /etc/hamachi nothing happens... and when I do a ls in /etc I don't see hamachi... any suggestions?
[05:33] <Ash_Heron> #ubuntu+1
[05:33] <Ash_Heron> oopsie
[05:33] <gary4gar> !hardy | jack_
[05:33] <ubotu> jack_: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:33] <bascule> gary4gar: you can using links or lynx, just start it and press g, type url, hit enter, tab moves about, yo get used to it
[05:33] <Nikolai> okay, akf googlin', thx guys ;)
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: are you still up?
[05:34] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, it's only 9:30 , and you're supposed to be with your wife :)
[05:34] <nt> quick question, does anyone know how to install matlab here?
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: She is on the phone with our niece who is about to have her baby
[05:35] <Schmick> gary4gar, any  luck with ps a -f ?
[05:35] <Benalex> nt: do you have the packages?
[05:35] <bullgard4> How to find out the official purpose of the sleep.sh file?
[05:35] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, ok, you got a lot of time then
[05:35] <kyled185> does anyone know what supplies SDL-opengl libs?
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: Third one should just drop out
[05:35] <gary4gar> Schmick, nah, lemme reboot, but incase my server will be down :((
[05:35] <chcampb> hello
[05:35] <Schmick> ok
[05:35] <bascule> bullgard4: it will cause laptop to suspendon lid or powerbutton
[05:36] <HardDisk> some countries need to have a population control.
[05:36] <_Casey_> is there any way to completely uninstall the alsa drivers? i think i need to uninstall/reinstall to fix my sound problem
[05:36] <nt> yeah, I have Matlab R2007b
[05:36] <nickrud> bullgard4, do dpkg -S /path/to/sleep.sh , that will give you the package it came from. Then the docs will be in /usr/share/doc/packagename
[05:36] <Schmick> lol HardDisk .. MOST should.. :P
[05:36] <slliness> hey is there a problem with k3b and cdr on plextor or any drive for that matter with 7.10 not reloading the disc tray for verify burn
[05:36] <Anubyss> how do I go to the compiz-fusion channel? I don't see it on Xchat
[05:36] <slliness> ?
[05:36] <nickrud> bullgard4, if there are any, that is
[05:36] <HardDisk> nt you try octave?
[05:36] <Benalex> nt: http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing.html << read this carefully, very importaant
[05:36] <sudhanshu> cy
[05:36] <gary4gar> _Casey_, its the windows way, you are too much into windows :p
[05:37] <_Casey_> no im not ;x
[05:37] <slliness> did that question make sense
[05:37] <_Casey_> but my sound isnt working
[05:37] <_Casey_> and i cant fix it ;x
[05:37] <HardDisk> octave is awesome for mathematical computations, as good as matlab
[05:37] <bascule> slliness: I get that ona laptop, but kinda obvious it can't reload a laptop tray
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> slliness: I run k3b on an sata plextor dvd burner with no issues
[05:37] <gary4gar> !sound | _Casey_,
[05:37] <ubotu> _Casey_,: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:37] <mohkohn> md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz Is this a bug?
[05:37] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, didn't realize it was so soon, I was just remembering women talking about oncoming babies
[05:37] <slliness> bascule, yeah this is desktop
[05:37] <crimsun> mohkohn: yes & no.
[05:37] <HardDisk> and if you don't want k3b (KDE) and stick with gnome, brasero/gnome baker are just as good.
[05:37] <nt> and it promp me, "permission denied" even though I used "sudo" command
[05:37] <zero88> if ubuntu cant see my hardware, which is my wireless card , could that mean i have to turn it on?
[05:37] <HardDisk> but k3b is a good product.
[05:37] <Schmick> Anubis, type /j #compiz-fusion
[05:38] <jetscreamer> kyled185: do glxinfo in an xterm perhaps
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: YEa... she has already dialiated to 4
[05:38] <biotro1> !fglrx
[05:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:38] <_Casey_> "No volume control/GStreamer plugins and/or devices found"
[05:38] <nickrud> !brokenflash | mohkohn
[05:38] <ubotu> mohkohn: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[05:38] <bullgard4> bascule: What you are replying is what I have read in Synaptic also before. But it is my firm believe that the author of sleep.sh has not written this program/file for that purpose that you just mentioned. He has written it with a much more general purpose.
[05:38] <biotro1> oi jack_sparrow need some enlightment
[05:38] <slliness> Jack_Sparrow, and this pata drive and does not pick up when you close drive either but works with dvds for verifing
[05:38] <u>  schmick u there?
[05:38] <Schmick> yep u
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> biotro1: Anything BUT enlightenment
[05:39] <u> turns out to suck like usual
[05:39] <gary4gar> nickrud & Jack_Sparrow: i guess you guys should use PM for private chat or head to offtopic, ;)
[05:39] <u> its naked and on minimal plug ins
[05:39] <HardDisk> yep.
[05:39] <_Casey_> "No volume control/GStreamer plugins and/or devices found" < GARY
[05:39] <mohkohn> thanks for fast reply ubotu, nickrud and crimsun
[05:39] <HardDisk> they make a great couple though :)
[05:39] <slliness> bascule, Jack_Sparrow should I launchpad it
[05:39] <HardDisk> mohkohn, fyi, ubotu is a bot.
[05:39] <u> power, cpu, ram, vga, speaker jumper, power switch jumper, thats all
[05:40] <HardDisk> nickrud, CAN be a bot if he chooses to.
[05:40] <gary4gar> _Casey_, me going for a reboot, Brb
[05:40] <_Casey_> hurry
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> gary4gar: agreed...   nickrud  we can always chat in #ubuntu-ops
[05:40] <Schmick> the can attemps to start, and then it stops?
[05:40] <Schmick> *the fan attemps to start, and then it stops?
[05:40] <nickrud> HardDisk, only in the narrow but shallow limits of my knowledge
[05:40] <HardDisk> :)
[05:40] <HardDisk> narrow knowledge is better than no knowledge at all.
[05:41] <HinHin> i there
[05:41] <HardDisk> i yourself
[05:41] <bascule> slliness: line 14 of sleep.sh # If gnome-power-manager or klaptopdaemon are running, let them handle policy
[05:41] <HinHin> >.<... i was wondering if someone could help where ubuntu puts the zlib, library....
[05:41] <mohkohn> HardDisk, I guess I watched "I Robot" too many times :)
[05:41] <bascule> bullgard4: ^^
[05:41] <Schmick> u, *the fan attemps to start, and then it stops?
[05:41] <bascule> slliness: sorry wrong question, heh :)
[05:42] <u> Schmick fans all work
[05:42] <u> on vga and cpu
[05:42] <u> no beep sound
[05:42] <u> no display
[05:42] <_Casey_> "No volume control/GStreamer plugins and/or devices found" < Wtf does that mean
[05:42] <xcthulhu> HinHin: try the command "locate zlib"
[05:42] <nickrud> HinHin, /usr/lib/libz.so*
[05:42] <HinHin> hmm... thanks i'll try that :)
[05:42] <obnockshus> Can anyone help me with xchat for a sec? I won't connect to my normal server for some reason
[05:42] <Schmick> u, my guess... you burned the ram... static discharge maybe..
[05:43] <biotro2> sorry jack_sparrow dc
[05:43] <bullgard4> bascule: Can you elaborate what do you mean by answering '06:41 <   bascule> bullgard4: ^^'?
[05:43] <obnockshus> *i = It
[05:43] <Jack_Sparrow> sure
[05:43] <nickrud> HinHin, what are trying to to with the zlib, anyway?
[05:43] <underdaw1> I'm following the ubuntu hamachi/vnc directions and it worked on my local box, but it's not working on my 7.10 ssh remote box... when I type the sudo hamachi-init -c /etc/hamachi nothing happens... and when I do a ls in /etc I don't see hamachi... any suggestions?
[05:43] <Schmick> any way to test each part on other MB?
[05:43] <crush_groove> waves at obnockshus
[05:43] <u> ram is 100% necessary to boot the screen?
[05:43] <bascule> Schmick: fres ram would beep, it's probably mobo, maybe vga
[05:43] <obnockshus> heya ceush
[05:43] <biotro2> mmmm jack_sparrow i can't do aticonfig --initial
[05:43] <HinHin> nickrud, i'm trying to compile eAthena and it requires zlib
[05:43] <obnockshus> crush even.
[05:43] <HardDisk> HinHin, you may want to sudo locate -u first.
[05:43] <biotro2> it said aborted (Core Dumped)
[05:43] <HinHin> but it can't find the directory it's isntalled in
[05:43] <bascule> bullgard4: see the lines above, i addressed it to the wrong person
[05:43] <u> u dont really need the vga to have a beep right?
[05:43] <obnockshus> pvt for a sec crush?
[05:43] <nickrud> HinHin, it requires the headers more specifically, a sec
[05:44] <bascule> u: yes you do
[05:44] <crush_groove>  u registered ?
[05:44] <HinHin> ah
[05:44] <Schmick> u, depending on the manufacturer.. without ram you might not get anything.. not even POST started.
[05:44] <crush_groove> !ot
[05:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:44] <bascule> u: one long 3 short, failed vga or nine detected
[05:44] <u> damn
[05:44] <HinHin> headers... kernel headers?
[05:44] <bascule> nine/none
[05:44] <u> it has been real staticy lately
[05:44] <Schmick> yep... search in google for BEEP POST CODE
[05:44] <crush_groove> obnockshus,  join #offtopic
[05:45] <nickrud> HinHin, no, the headers for the library, necessary for compiling an application against a library.   install zlib1g-dev
[05:45] <u> thats for me to check the sound errors right?
[05:45] <HinHin> i see
[05:45] <HinHin> hmm...
[05:45] <nickrud> HinHin, but the same in concept as kernel headers
[05:45] <u> if no sound... maybes the codes will be useless to me
[05:45] <Jack_Sparrow> beep post code for bad ram on almost all boards is single beep, beep  beep
[05:45] <HardDisk> case speaker is plugged in?
[05:45] <jetscreamer> try reseating all the cards and memory
[05:45] <bascule> yeah, long beep mostlu
[05:45] <Random832> on a computer with an onboard video card and a pci card, how do i disable the onboard so it will use the pci card?
[05:46] <HardDisk> Random832, BIOS
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Random832: in the bios / cmos
[05:46] <jetscreamer> sometimes i have to wiggle my memory
[05:46] <crush_groove> obnockshus,  sorry . join #bobo
[05:46] <HinHin> hmm... it's already installed...
[05:46] <Random832> HardDisk: no apparent option
[05:46] <bascule> Random832: it should auto, but in the bios loo for an init display fist setting
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Random832: rarely, there is a jumper on the mb
[05:46] <Schmick> Random832,  check the motherboard manual, but it should be automatic.
[05:46] <Random832> is threre a way to make ubuntu use the pci card at least?
[05:46] <u> HardDisk yah
[05:46] <HinHin> ;_;... the header files must be in some other location
[05:46] <HardDisk> Random832, if no way to disable, then choose PCI first rather than inbuilt.
[05:46] <Random832> it's an ancient computer (windows 98 sticker on it), i have no documentation
[05:46] <Random832> how do i make X use it, if nothing else?
[05:46] <KocKid> When I open the Terminal, my computer restarts, is there a work around for this ?
[05:47] <u> Schmick diagnostic: No Power, Loose Card, or Short. for no beep
[05:47] <shawnst> I need some help... I am using lampp from apache friends and when I try to change the config file it says I don't have the permissions to change it
[05:47] <Fujitsu> HinHin: Install zlib1g-dev
[05:47] <shawnst> how do I fix that?
[05:47] <Random832> there's nothing about video cards _at all_ in the bios
[05:47] <HinHin> Fujitsu, it's already installed
[05:47] <HinHin> i installed it ealier...
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Random832: check the cmos for options for video,  open case and physically look at the board for jumpers saying onboard video
[05:47] <Random832> ...
[05:47] <u> Schmick i cant figure out the "short" part..., has power, unless the my new vantec ion power jack is messed up
[05:47] <HardDisk> you cannot have both enabled.
[05:47] <nickrud> shawnst, edit it with gksudo gedit , you need give yourself admin privileges to edit files outside your home
[05:48] <Random832> is there any way to just make ubuntu - or even just X, use the pci card? both show up in lspci
[05:48] <bascule> Random832: are you sure? under advanced -> integrated peripherals often
[05:48] <Random832> um, how the hell can't I have both enabled? people use multiple video cards all the time
[05:48] <HardDisk> Random832, that is different.
[05:48] <jetscreamer> you can
[05:48] <shawnst> nickrud: how do I do that?
[05:48] <Random832> how's that different?
[05:48] <bullgard4> nickrud: /usr/share/doc/acpi-support/README writes: "This is a library of various acpi functionality that we're confident will work on most systems. Eventually, we'd like to be able to work out what we can do based on machine type." This is a very general statement. I agree that this is an offical statement. But is this all what is officially proclaimed about the purpose of the sleep.sh file?
[05:48] <biotro3> oo man i'm having a hard time with this gprs connection it always dc
[05:48] <Random832> bgut I looked everywhere in the bios
[05:48] <HardDisk> not all boards will allow inbuilt AND external videocard to be used.
[05:48] <Random832> ...um, but both show up in lspci
[05:48] <biotro3> anyway.. jack_sparrow i'm back
[05:48] <Schmick> u, guess you¡ll have to test each part on a running box, short is not likely, as a short would stop the fans.
[05:48] <nickrud> shawnst, you would open a terminal, and type gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[05:48] <Random832> all I want is for ubuntu to use the pci one
[05:49] <KocKid> When I open the Terminal, my computer restarts... How can I stop this ????
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> biotro3: I need to leave...   baby is on the way....
[05:49] <biotro3> so what am i suppose to do.. with my ATI radeon 2400 xt mobility
[05:49] <chcampb> this is a strange question; nvidia's cg somethingorother that i need to install as a dependency for ogre3d comes as a 'usr' folder, a) is it safe to copy it into the root directory, and b) how would i do this?
[05:49] <bascule> Random832: yes you can, so long as the board lets you pci 0:2:0 or 1:0:0 will be the differentiating factor in xorg.conf
[05:49] <HinHin> Fujitsu, nickrud and others thanks for the info anyway
[05:49] <HardDisk> you'll have to identify it with lspci then add it to xorg.conf
[05:49] <chcampb>  i tried su
[05:49] <krammer> I just install pidgin how can i bring up the program
[05:49] <nickrud> bullgard4, welcome to the fact that developers hate writing documentation, they just read the code
[05:49] <chcampb> sudo mv usr / but it gives an error
[05:49] <HinHin> ;)
[05:49] <biotro3> helllo
[05:49] <biotro3> anybody can help?
[05:49] <jetscreamer> Random832: you can. try x.org. or #xorg or #liinux
[05:49] <Random832> is there a way to autoconfigure X and have it detect both cards?
[05:49] <KocKid> alot of ppl can help
[05:49] <chcampb> dont ask to ask, just ask ^^
[05:49] <jetscreamer> err ##linux
[05:50] <Random832> I thought ubuntu was supposed to be easy to use - it automatically configured it at first, with the onboard one :P
[05:50] <u> Schmick thats leads us to checking the psu (even though brand new)... ill plug in another one and check back =)
[05:50] <Schmick> Random832,  just check the bios if there is any option station Primary Video or something like that..
[05:50] <Random832> Schmick: there isn't.
[05:50] <bullgard4> nickrud: I share your sentiment.
[05:50] <HardDisk> he said there isn't
[05:50] <_Casey_> god i hate getting sound to work
[05:50] <Random832> i keep saying this, why don't people believe me?
[05:50] <HardDisk> you can use a gui xorg configurator if you want
[05:50] <Sonja> can i run a kde app in ubuntu? and if so, why does it matter that i choose a gnome-native one over a kde one or vice versa?
[05:50] <nickrud> bullgard4, when I coded, I didn't document either. So it's just an observation, not a judgement :)
[05:50] <jetscreamer> Random832: try not connecting a monitor to it, also
[05:50] <Sonja> for example anarok vs. exaile
[05:50] <underdaw1> I'm following the ubuntu hamachi/vnc directions and it worked on my local box, but it's not working on my 7.10 ssh remote box... when I type the sudo hamachi-init -c /etc/hamachi nothing happens... and when I do a ls in /etc I don't see hamachi... any suggestions?
[05:50] <Random832> I don't _care_ about system bootup messages, this is for my brother who's non-technical (and the onboard video card seems to blink out randomly)
[05:50] <Random832> jetscreamer: tried that
[05:50] <jetscreamer> yes you can Sonja and no it doesn't
[05:50] <Schmick> ok, then open the case.. look at the motherboard.. see if there is a manufacturer code.. or part number.. and google for it.. you NEED the manual.
[05:51] <HardDisk> Sonja, it doesn't matter, but some people don't like to bloat their gnome with KDE libraries, that's all.
[05:51] <Fujitsu> Sonja: You can, but GNOME ones will generally look and integrate better.
[05:51] <HardDisk> and vice versa.
[05:51] <HardDisk> hence why there are alternatives for both kde and gnome apps.
[05:51] <jetscreamer> kde generally is tighter
[05:51] <Sonja> is there a gnome equivalent of quanta plus?
[05:51] <krammer> I installed pidgin from source how come I do not see it under applications?
[05:51] <bascule> scream
[05:51] <underdaw1> nvu?
[05:51] <chcampb> HardDisk: bloat as in memory, or bloat as in disk usage?
[05:51] <Random832> alternate way of looking at the problem
[05:51] <Fujitsu> krammer: Because you shouldn't be installing from source
[05:51] <HardDisk> chcampb, bit of both.
[05:52] <nickrud> Sonja, unless you are short on memory, it won't matter that you're running a kde app in gnome. Use the app that suits you best
[05:52] <Fujitsu> underdaw1: Nvu is dead. Kompozer has replaced it.
[05:52] <donspaulding> hey all, my lenovo t61 hangs at boot for about 2 minutes "Configuring Network Interfaces" .  I've pasted my /etc/network/interfaces file at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49459/
[05:52] <krammer> so what next ?
[05:52] <donspaulding> anything look out of place?
[05:52] <Random832> how do i tell which one is onboard?
[05:52] <Sonja> should i use quanta plus to edit html and css?
[05:52] <chcampb> HardDisk: is that only when you use that program in particular, or all the time?
[05:52] <Fujitsu> krammer: WHy did you install it from source?
[05:52] <Sonja> or is there a better gnome one for ubuntu?
[05:52] <HardDisk> Sonja, if you like quanta, just use it.
[05:52] <Random832> 00:09.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5434-8 [Alpine] (rev f9)
[05:52] <Random832> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 530/620 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev a2)
[05:52] <orionr> Sonja: it doesnt matter gedit work fine :P
[05:52] <_Casey_> someone look at my terminal and tell me whats wrong http://pastebin.com/m1226c296
[05:52] <krammer> i done this before it was a tar.z2
[05:52] <nickrud> Sonja, and to my knowledge no
[05:52] <Random832> which one of those is integrated?
[05:52] <bascule> Random832: by knowing what your cards actually are? 1:0:0 is AGP, almost certainly
[05:53] <HardDisk> chcampb, when you use that program. unless you have something that is running in background processes.
[05:53] <Random832> this is built from spare parts
[05:53] <Random832> and the card is in a PCI slot
[05:53] <Fujitsu> krammer: Why did you install from source?
[05:53] <Sonja> so i can use quanta plus on ubuntu, and the only problem is the menus will have a different look because its kde?
[05:53] <_Casey_> anyone
[05:53] <Random832> is there a way to find out what pci id X is currently using?
[05:53] <HardDisk> I really miss reading conan comics :)
[05:53] <krammer> ok what can i do to install pdigin?
[05:53] <Fujitsu> Sonja: Basically.
[05:53] <HardDisk> Sonja, correct.
[05:53] <Fujitsu> krammer: Is it not installed by default?
[05:53] <Sonja> thanks
[05:53] <bascule> makes it trickier Random832 :), but take out the pci card and see what dissappears is a sure way
[05:53] <krammer> no gaim is
[05:53] <Sonja> so exaile is better than amarok for ubuntu users then
[05:54] <Random832> while it's running? just kidding
[05:54] <Sonja> pidgin is the new gaim
[05:54] <HardDisk> well, they are two different products.
[05:54] <Fujitsu> krammer: Ah, you're using an old version of Ubuntu?
[05:54] <krammer> yes
[05:54] <HardDisk> personally I like exaile regardless if it was gnome or not.
[05:54] <orionr> hey guys
[05:54] <orionr> i did this
[05:54] <krammer> 7.04
[05:54]  * bascule thinks nothing is better than amarok, except maybe irssi
[05:54] <Sonja> is mplayer gnome or kde?
[05:54] <Fujitsu> Sonja: It's neither.
[05:54] <Sonja> but exaile is amarok for gnome, no?
[05:54] <Fujitsu> Sonja: gmplayer is GNOME.
[05:55] <HardDisk> Sonja, they are similar.
[05:55]  * Schmick 's brain cpu% quotta exceded... sleeping system... gnight y'all!
[05:55] <chcampb> Okay, if i need to install something that comes as a folder called 'usr' i would just put that in the root directory, correct? is that safe, and what is the command syntax to do something like that?
[05:55] <HardDisk> different developers.
[05:55] <krammer> if i upgrade will my settings and programs be changed?
[05:55] <HardDisk> different concepts.
[05:55] <Fujitsu> krammer: OTher than Gaim upgrading to Pidgin, unlikely.
[05:55] <_Casey_> http://pastebin.com/m1226c296
[05:55] <Random832> chcampb: that depends on what you mean by "safe".
[05:55] <crdlb> chcampb: it's not safe at all, but that's what you'd have to do
[05:55] <nickrud> chcampb, no, since there's already a directory called usr
[05:55] <Sonja> is Deluge a good BT client for ubuntu?
[05:55] <Random832> dropping it in the root directory is certainly most likely what the people making the software _expect_ you to do
[05:55] <chcampb> Random832: its the cg tools from nvidia, the files are not inherently dangerous
[05:56] <redd0t> Sonja: yes
[05:56] <krammer> i cant join a room with gaim going through the room list
[05:56] <Random832> well, right, but it will screw up package management
[05:56] <nt> Hi, it's me again, sorry for the delay,  I run 'sudo ./install' under matlab r2007b gives me 'command not found' even though the file was in the folder, if I don't use 'sudo' then I don't have permission to the file.  I've looked up in the forums but seems the problem is recent and not solved yet
[05:56] <Missy18> how can i scan network printers automatically .. i have tried cups but it doesn't find the printer installed on the same network
[05:56] <Random832> what kind of files are they? i.e. what do you see under "usr"?
[05:56] <HardDisk> Sonja, yes :) but then I'm biased cause I worked on deluge.
[05:56] <underdaw1> I'm following the ubuntu hamachi/vnc directions and it worked on my local box, but it's not working on my 7.10 ssh remote box... when I type the sudo hamachi-init -c /etc/hamachi nothing happens... and when I do a ls in /etc I don't see hamachi... any suggestions?
[05:56] <Sonja> how do i make the screen fonts on ubuntu look less like ASS ?
[05:56] <nickrud> Random832, not only that, usr would disappear, and that wouldn't be good
[05:56] <Sonja> hehe
[05:56] <Sonja> windows had much smoother font display
[05:56] <kikr> Is anyone using xchat?  how do I stop xchat from blinking in the taskbar? I can't find the option for this anywhere
[05:57] <HardDisk> ok well I see no more complicated questions, just simple ones, I'm out peeps.
[05:57] <Random832> nickrud: almost any procedure I know of for copying or moving a directory will automatically merge conflicting directories - only files would be straight-up overwritten
[05:57] <nickrud> Sonja, system->prefs->fonts , settings are there. Use a different font, ubuntu uses the same fonts as windows (hint)
[05:57] <chcampb> Random832: its just the bin, lib, etc; my understanding is that a batch script would take the files and put them where they belong, but it seems they put it in the respective directories in the same structure as is required (i think) i just want to make sure thats the best way to do it
[05:57] <HardDisk> and remember, it helps to search the ubuntu forums once in a while.
[05:57] <Sonja> thanks
[05:57] <HardDisk> and check out ubuntuguide.org ubuntugeek.com and ubuntuhq.com
[05:57] <Schmick> kikr, right click the icon on the panel  and check BLINK.
[05:58] <Random832> chcampb: _what_ files under /usr/bin and /usr/lib?
[05:58] <HardDisk> later ppl
[05:58] <PepperPad4> How can I make Hardy Heron Alpha 2 boot without messing up the display ?
[05:58] <_Casey_> noone is particularly helpful on my sound issues ;x
[05:58] <Random832> that tells me nothing :P
[05:58] <HardDisk> PepperPad4, #ubuntu+1
[05:58] <Schmick> gone now.. gnite ppl..
[05:58] <sparr> when playing reasonably system-intensive games, sometimes my computer locks up for like 1/4 of a second every few seconds.  the screen doesnt change, no input is accepted, and the playing audio loops rapidly.  What could cause that?
[05:58] <Sonja> you want a complicated qustion?
[05:58] <HardDisk> !hardy | PepperPad4
[05:58] <nickrud> chcampb, if you can convince the program to install in /usr/local/usr , that would be better
[05:58] <ubotu> PepperPad4: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[05:58] <HardDisk> aight, later.
[05:58] <Random832> nickrud: /usr/local, not /usr/local/usr, surely?
[05:58] <Sonja> i want to rename the way keyboard layouts are named on the bar
[05:58] <PepperPad4> thanks
[05:59] <nickrud> Random832, true that, I think I'm getting Schmick's disease
[05:59] <bascule> sparr: IRQs, dodgy sound drivers
[05:59] <chcampb> Random832: cgc (binary), the headers in include, libraries in lib...
[05:59] <NeoGeo64>  dude marijuana is awesome
[05:59] <chcampb> and all of the directories match