[12:00] <airox> Hi. Is there some utility to change the speedstep of my Pentium III Coppermine ?
[12:00] <ErgoSum> ill kill em all and then let God select them
[12:01] <airox> cat /proc/cpuinfo gives me 419MHz, but my processor is capable of 850MHz.
[12:01] <nickrud> ErgoSum, you could try gplflash
[12:01] <sap> hi, could someone tell me what the equivalent of lspci is for the isa bus?
[12:01] <ispiked> anyone have any experience with synclient not remembering settings after reboot? or is it not supposed to do that?
[12:01] <ErgoSum> nickrud, i cant install i have  aproblem with ./configure
[12:01] <erUSUL> sap, none afaik
[12:01] <nickrud> ErgoSum, what problem? you probably need a -dev package
[12:02] <seth_slackware> I need the  w32codecs xine codecs (Video codec 'MS WMV 9 (win32)' is not handled.) what packge?
[12:02] <mwe> krak`nix: it looks fine as far as I can tell
[12:02] <nickrud> !w32codecs
[12:02] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[12:02] <lightbright> seth_slackware: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[12:02] <erUSUL> !tell seth_slackware about w32codecs
[12:02] <ErgoSum> nickrud, i installed gcc make etc
[12:02] <krak`nix> mwe: ok thanks, new to cron so just want to make sure :>
[12:02] <pepsi> hi there
[12:02] <sap> erUSUL: ok, thanks
[12:02] <navarone> Anyone else using xchat lose the list of channel users...possibly because of using xfce theme?
[12:03] <LjL> ErgoSum: what is it that you're trying to compile, and what errors does it give on ./configure (paste it in the pastebin)
[12:03] <GigaClon> hello can i get some help
[12:03] <lightbright> can I delete everything from /tmp ?
[12:03] <nickrud> ErgoSum, there are some instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, it tells you what extra packages to install
[12:03] <GigaClon> i need to install something on my ubuntu box w/o internet
[12:03] <lightbright> can I delete everything from /tmp ?  is this safe and w\ont break anything?
[12:03] <ErgoSum> oh ill take a look on that wiki thanks
[12:04] <seth_slackware> stop being free sofware zealots
[12:04] <nickrud> ErgoSum, I've seen one person try that on an amd, and it failed. I hope you have better luck
[12:04] <lightbright> GigaClon: if its not on the CD, then you can't
[12:04] <nickrud> seth_slackware, he has an amd64, no flash for it
[12:04] <pepsi> so lets take a vote.. dapper flight 1 cd (from 11/18) daily cd (from today) or daily dvd (from 11/22)?
[12:04] <lightbright> nickrud: can I delete everything from /tmp ?  is this safe and w\ont break anything?
[12:05] <seth_slackware> nickrud: I don't have any clue what that has to due with
[12:05] <GigaClon> I know there is a website that has the breezy debs for downloading linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[12:05] <erUSUL> lightbright, no you can not delete the things under tmp unless you are the owner
[12:05] <Mars^^> Hi i have a little problem
[12:05] <nickrud> lightbright, there's some sockets in use there that I'd personally leave alone
[12:05] <lightbright> ok
[12:05] <nickrud> seth_slackware, sorry, must have skipped thru threads there
[12:05] <erUSUL> lightbright, this things get seleted each shutdown btw
[12:05] <gfish> i installed an mp4 plugin to xmms it makes it crash how do i uninstall the plugin
[12:05] <gnomefreak> GigaClon,  you said you didnt have internet and light was right you cant download anything without a net connection
[12:06] <rmbrain> Can somebody help me here?  Some people say that Linux is secure by default, and that by installing Linux you are basically immune to viruses because it is so secure.  Other people tell me that its not what OS you use, but the security practices you take.
[12:06] <Mars^^> I istalled kubuntu for PC (Intel x86) despite the fact i have AMD athlon 2800+ what schould i do now?
[12:06] <dr_willis> despite?
[12:06] <tritium> Mars^^, enjoy?
[12:06] <GigaClon> im trying to get my winmodem to work
[12:06] <pepsi> Mars^^, that was the right choice
[12:06] <dr_willis> are you having some sort of issue?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> amd 2800+ is a 32bit processer no?
[12:06] <gfish> how do i uninstall a plugin i installed for xmms
[12:07] <Mars^^> amd athlon 64 :]
[12:07] <pepsi> so either live with it or reinstall
[12:07] <gnomefreak> gfish,  sudo apt-get remove --purge <packagename>
[12:07] <erUSUL> rmbrain, the fact is that linux has almost no viruses so you can be more negligent
[12:07] <lightbright> gfish: good question
[12:08] <lightbright> gfish: how did you install it?
[12:08] <rmbrain> erUSUL, so thats like saying you can afford to be lazy?
[12:08] <GigaClon> someone was asking how to install packages without internet, and they got a webaddress of breezy debs
[12:08] <gfish> gnomefreak, so id put sudo apt-get remove --purge xmms-mp4
[12:08] <gnomefreak> Mars^^,  my understanding is that the 64 bit chip will run 32 bit programs
[12:08] <lightbright> gfish: use aptitude to remove things
[12:08] <nickrud> rmbrain, it's both: linux is so small, not a lot of people target it, so the viruses out there are for windows. Plus, you can put yourself wide open to the few who do target linux
[12:08] <gnomefreak> gfish, if thats the package name yes
[12:08] <navarone> how and why would the user list for channel disappear in xchat?
[12:08] <lightbright> gfish: sudo aptitude remove xmms-mp4
[12:08] <LjL> lightbright: don't think that'll do much, if apt-get was used when installing
[12:09] <rmbrain> nickrud, so am i right in saying that its not the OS that you use but the processes that you take to secure that OS?
[12:09] <Stormx2> command to find out where the files of a package are installed to?
[12:09] <darksoul> how many people use wine and how many people use cedega?
[12:09] <erUSUL> rmbrain, is like saying that you do not need antivirus and you are forced to not use ie
[12:09] <pepsi> darksoul, vmware!
[12:09] <Stormx2> darksoul: tried cedega, didn't like it
[12:09] <nickrud> rmbrain, all things being equal, probably true.
[12:09] <lightbright> LjL: really?  if something was installed with apt-get, aptitude cant remove it?  really?
[12:09] <Stormx2> darksoul: I use wine
[12:09] <tritium> Stormx2, dpkg -L <packagename>
[12:09] <darksoul> Stormx2 why?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> aptitude is not a replacement for commands its a different command totally
[12:09] <LjL> lightbright: no, it *can* remove it, it's just not going to have an advantage over removing it with apt-get
[12:10] <lightbright> gnomefreak:  can I delete everything from /tmp ?  is this safe and w\ont break anything?
[12:10] <darksoul> Stormx2 i got some things running on cedega that i never got running on wine.. but yea wine is better at some things
[12:10] <lightbright> LjL: who told you that?
[12:10] <nickrud> aptitude owns apt-get ;)
[12:10] <tritium> aptitude does in fact rock
[12:10] <linkd> so ive heard
[12:10] <GigaClon> apt-get has super cow powers
[12:10] <lightbright> LjL: how do you know for certain that it wont have an advantage over removing it with apt-get?
[12:10] <darksoul> Does gentoo have apt-get commands?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> lightbright, i dont know try it?
[12:10] <nickrud> mooo
[12:10] <linkd> darksoul: no it has emerge.. which is different
[12:10] <mustermann> are the captive drivers pretty safe/stable for ntfs r/w access?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> darksoul, gentoo uses emerge i think
[12:10] <lightbright> gnomefreak: too late if I try it and it breaks :P
[12:11] <linkd> darksoul: apt-get is a debian thing
[12:11] <gfish> lightbright, thanks it worked
[12:11] <LjL> lightbright: because it won't know which packages were installed automatically and which ones were installed manually
[12:11] <lightbright> gfish: you are welcome :)
[12:11] <erUSUL> lightbright, i've already answered you. You can not rm anything that you didn't created yourself. Things under tmp are deleted at shutdown
[12:11] <Stormx2> tritium: OK dude, how do I find where it is without a dpkg command, that possible?
[12:11] <darksoul> whats so much better with gentoo anyway... i always seemed to like it but could never get it installed.. anyway whats better on it
[12:11] <lightbright> erUSUL: ah ok thanks!  sorry missed your message
[12:11] <tritium> Stormx2, synaptic can list them too
[12:11] <Stormx2> tritium: Actually, nevermind
[12:11] <darksoul> NoUse: still here eh
[12:11] <Stormx2> tritium: Thanks very much ;-)
[12:12] <tritium> sure :)
[12:12] <gnomefreak> darksoul,  its not so much better than anything its just people perfer it to other distros
[12:12] <darksoul> anyone know what gentoo can do that ubuntu cant do...
[12:12] <gnomefreak> darksoul,  drive you to drink
[12:12] <linkd> darksoul: emerge
[12:12] <linkd> gnomefreak: haha
[12:12] <darksoul> linkd: wtf is emerge anyway
[12:13] <robotgeek> darksoul: ubuntu means, can't use gentoo
[12:13] <gnomefreak> :) well it will
[12:13] <tritium> nevertheless, you can build from source on ubuntu if you so desire
[12:13] <gnomefreak> darksoul,  wanna know about gentoo from gentoo users try #gentoo
[12:13] <xenuhn> hello
[12:13] <xenuhn> need help with fstab
[12:13] <erUSUL> darksoul, the gentoo apt with the diference that it compiles things from source
[12:13] <navarone> gnomefreak> any idea why channel user list is not showing in xchat? Has it been disables somehow or has my theme experiment somehow gone awry? :/
[12:14] <tritium> erUSUL, you can do the same with apt-get
[12:14] <holycow> man oh man
[12:14] <mustermann> anyone using the captive drivers for ntfs?
[12:14] <holycow> looking at some of the stuff running
[12:14] <holycow> gnome-cups-icon uses 57 mb of ram here
[12:14] <holycow> heh
[12:14] <gnomefreak> navarone,  dont know what channel user list?
[12:14] <SCMark> does anyone know how to install mythtv correctly on an ubuntu box?  I've got a hauppauge 350.
[12:14] <xenuhn> have a fat32-partition and want write-rights at startup
[12:14] <erUSUL> trappist, yes but it is not the default
[12:14] <navarone> gnome are you using cli irc client?
[12:14] <gnomefreak> the room list on right hand side?
[12:15] <holycow> the clock-applet uses 20 mb of ram
[12:15] <holycow> wow
[12:15] <NoUse> mustermann I've heard they don't work with ubuntu
[12:15] <navarone> gnome> yes...i don't have it
[12:15] <gnomefreak> navarone, right now im on x-chat 2.6
[12:15] <pepsi> holycow, doesnt mean its actually active
[12:15] <NoUse> !captive
[12:15] <ubotu> I guess captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[12:15] <protok0l> i need help, my sound stopped after an updrade
[12:15] <navarone> gnome> I'm on 2.4.4...but it never disappeared before
[12:15] <holycow> pepsi, *nod* perhaps i am overlooking something, but that doesn't exactly scream out 'lean'
[12:16] <mustermann> well that's a crying shame.
[12:16] <gnomefreak> navarone,  are you talking about the room list on the right hand side of this room?
[12:16] <navarone> gnome> yes...the one you can right click names
[12:16] <tritium> navarone, perhaps you accidentally removed it
[12:16] <navarone> how?
[12:16] <erUSUL> protok0l, have you checked the mixer settings??
[12:16] <tritium> user interaction of some kind
[12:17] <gnomefreak> try expanding the right side of the chat window
[12:17] <x3g5> /quit
[12:17] <waseem> hi, does anyone here know how to configure a wireless connection so that i dont have to continually type in commands everytime i reboot my computer to connect?
[12:17] <protok0l> erUSUL: yes, its all on and turned up
[12:17] <navarone> gnome> window is maxxed
[12:17] <berkes> a pity, it seems the PLF repos are offline.
[12:17] <protok0l> erUSUL: and i reloaded alsa, it made my speakers "click"
[12:17] <tritium> waseem, is it configured for auto in /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:17] <snowblink> hi - trying to get 5.10 live CD for Mac to run on an iMac G5. Anyone had any success?
[12:17] <berkes> does anyone know where to get an mplayer repository?
[12:18] <holycow> waseem, just use the system/admin/networking gui
[12:18] <nickrud> navarone, grap the scratchy looking thing on the right side with your mouse, and pull it to the left
[12:18] <tritium> snowblink, it will not work yet on the iMac G5.  Wait for dapper.
[12:18] <snowblink> tritium: okay. Cheers.
[12:18] <holycow> waseem, you can also install wifi-radar that will let you scan for available networks and join manually and set that link up for you
[12:18] <navarone> nickrud> the window is maximized as is it
[12:18] <erUSUL> protok0l,  try aplay /usr/share/sounds/phone.wav
[12:19] <erUSUL> !tell berkes about repos
[12:19] <zephyrus> hey, has anyone been able to install an activex plugin for their firefox?
[12:19] <nickrud> navarone, you can resize the userlist pane till it disappears; you can bring it back by pulling on the vertical bar, and the horizontal lines in the center on the right is a visual aid
[12:19] <gnomefreak> navarone, make you screen smaller and than drag the right side of window
[12:20] <gnomefreak> left side if using gnome x-chat
[12:20] <erUSUL> zenrox, activex in linux? a no way afaik
[12:21] <Juhaz> thank god
[12:21] <Stormx2> erUSUL: Well I got ActiveX working
[12:21] <protok0l> erUSUL: no sound, ne errors either
[12:21] <Stormx2> zephyrus: ActiveX is possible in wine'd IE and also wine'd FireFox
[12:21] <navarone> tried dragging from left but no go. I also went back to basic Human them to see if that helped...nothing
[12:21] <zephyrus> erUSUL: i saw a plugin offered by crossover but it looked kind of expensive
[12:21] <erUSUL> Stormx2, the i do not know too far i'm afraid ;)
[12:21] <erUSUL> then*
[12:22] <gnomefreak> navarone, drag the right side to the right
[12:22] <zephyrus> Stormx2: thanks, I'll look into it
[12:22] <Stormx2> zephyrus: Install wine, then get the sidenet wine config script. Install IE6, and you have it
[12:22] <Stormx2> zephyrus: MS have also released a plugin for gecko-like browsers to enable activeX
[12:22] <Stormx2> zephyrus: But mind, it is NO WHERE NEAR perfect
[12:23] <eatnumber1> how do I get synaptic to download an older version of a file?
[12:23] <navarone> okay...got ti...thanks...thought I was going nuts...:)...again
[12:23] <erUSUL> protok0l, so the sound plays just fine but you can not hear anything? it's weird.
[12:23] <eatnumber1> whenever I set force version, it switches to the version, then switches bak
[12:23] <gar-> robotgeek, thanks it work perfect =) everything
[12:23] <erUSUL> !sound
[12:24] <ubotu> somebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[12:24] <gnomefreak> navarone, click on settings than click prefferences than go down and click on user list tell me what is checked
[12:24] <robotgeek> gar-: also try wifiradar
[12:24] <seth_slackware> !sound
[12:24] <protok0l> erUSUL: it was since i recent kernel update
[12:24] <protok0l> stable kernel
[12:24] <navarone> gnome> tis okay...got it sorted
[12:24] <gnomefreak> ok navarone
[12:24] <gar-> robotgeek,  where i can get that
[12:25] <navarone> gnome> almost had kernel panic...;)
[12:25] <seth_slackware> is ubotu a bot?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ok bb later time to go do other stuff
[12:25] <devint_> ahem
[12:25] <berkes> erUSUL: that did not help me find mplayer, unfortunately
[12:25] <dr_willis> uBOTu
[12:25] <robotgeek> gar-: apt cache
[12:25] <gar-> robotgeek, do synaptic have it?
[12:25] <seth_slackware> he PMs me!
[12:25] <dr_willis>  :) yes
[12:25] <robotgeek> gar-: it should
[12:25] <dr_willis> he likes you
[12:25] <zephyrus> Stormx2: well, it's a good start at least.  Thanks for your help
[12:25] <Stormx2> zephyrus: I was told it was impossible too ;-)
[12:26] <gar-> robotgeek, nop i dont have it
[12:26] <erUSUL> protok0l, run aplay -l
[12:26] <mwe> heh
[12:26] <robotgeek> gar-: enable universe, and install wifi-radar
[12:26] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell gar- about repos
[12:27] <erUSUL> berkes, mplayer is in multiverse so it should have help you...
[12:27] <gar-> robotgeek, done =)
[12:27] <berkes> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto is what I found, but its all hoary stuff
[12:27] <gar-> robotgeek, i have already unverse
[12:27] <Stormx2> berkes; Should work for breezy, then ;-)
[12:28] <davethewave> howdy howdy howdy
[12:28] <robotgeek> gar-: did you run apt-get update?
[12:28] <gar-> yep
[12:29] <mwe> isn't mplayer in multiverse?
[12:29] <berkes> Genegeerd http://public.planetmirror.com hoary-extras/multiverse Packages, which, in EN means like "ignored ..... "
[12:29] <Stormx2> just use BMP, problem solved ;-)
[12:29] <berkes> bmp?
[12:29] <djm62> What meta-format does my menu.lst file need to be in for Ubuntu to auto-update the kernel that boots?
[12:29] <simonvallore> anyone have apache installed or can help me out ?
[12:29] <popey> i have apache installed on ubuntu
[12:30] <atrophic> likewise, go ahead and ask your question
[12:30] <simonvallore> popey can you host the .confs so i can download them
[12:30] <djm62> (ich habe lovely bootsplash now, but why didn't I have it before)
[12:30] <davethewave> 60Hz gives me a head-ache... is there a way to have the option for 75Hz? it isn't in my "system -> Preferences ->screen resolution" it won't let me have anything but 60
[12:30] <popey> uhm, no
[12:30] <popey> sorry
[12:30] <davethewave> dang
[12:30] <simonvallore> why ?
[12:30] <atrophic> what's wrong with the default configs?
[12:30] <simonvallore> i need them please help me
[12:30] <popey> tell us your problem
[12:30] <simonvallore> its not that hard
[12:30] <erUSUL> !tell davethewave about fixres
[12:30] <popey> I know how to do it, I don't want to.
[12:30] <gar-> robotgeek, i installing it =)
[12:30] <robotgeek> gar-: cool
[12:31] <simonvallore> well when i try to reinstall apache it wont replace the frick .confs that i rm -rf'ed
[12:31] <atrophic> our configs have details about our own set up, we'd be glad to help you with yours though
[12:31] <simonvallore> popey ill teach you
[12:31] <erUSUL> berkes, language please...
[12:31] <Stormx2> berkes: Blasphamy!
[12:31] <berkes> djm62: right :) np
[12:31] <ErgoSum> nickrud, i installed the flash plugin like the wiki said but it doesnt appeared in firefox about:plugins
[12:31] <popey> no simonvallore, dont bother, I said, I know how to, I don't want to.
[12:31] <simonvallore> lol i read wrong popey
[12:32] <berkes> sorry for the slip of the tongue :)
[12:32] <Ophiocus> is there a way to check and flag bad sectors in a drive prior to installation with the ubuntu cd?
[12:32] <libben> linkd: when i boot a windowsxp sp2 cd, it prompt for password when im in recover mode, it prompts for administration password. anyone knows the default one? cause i never sat a administrator password in my installs
[12:32] <djm62> simonvallore: shurely you want pastebin?
[12:32] <Stormx2> berkes: Or slip of the finger, as the case may be ;-)
[12:32] <ErgoSum> libben, default is blank
[12:32] <libben> doh =)
[12:32] <libben> brb =)
[12:32] <simonvallore> wtf ? djm62 ?
[12:32] <robotgeek> simonvallore: sudo aptitude purge apache2 && sudo aptitude install apache2
[12:32] <linkd> heh
[12:32] <nickrud> ErgoSum, try copying the plugin from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugin (just a guess)
[12:32] <berkes> but indeed, it is considered blasphemy, yet mandriva/suse/etc all manage to ship cds with nvidia, real codecs java, winmodems and so on
[12:33] <mwe> berkes: the free sofware foundation and richard stallman will haunt your dreams
[12:33] <djm62> berkes: it's not blasphemous, it's just not the ubuntu way
[12:33] <berkes> i really really would not mind paying some bucks for that
[12:33] <berkes> and i think stallman is a hippie :)
[12:33] <nickrud> berkes, you pay, and they pay for licenses for nearly all that I would think
[12:33] <ErgoSum> nickrud, the thing ois that the plugins is in mozilla/plugin dir :s
[12:33] <djm62> berkes: you have that option...suse is a good paid-for distro if you like that kind of thing
[12:33] <nickrud> ErgoSum, you tried mozilla?
[12:34] <ErgoSum> i mean mozilla firefox
[12:34] <linkd> i dont mind the trouble of installing support myself. its not too hard. not with ubuntu
[12:34] <erUSUL> berkes, anathema... ;)
[12:34] <berkes> djm62: i chose ubuntu for its good working system, it being apt/debian and all,
[12:34] <berkes> but i surely would embrace a distro that would Just Work
[12:34] <nickrud> ErgoSum, ok. Well, I think it's time to say something about amd64 and gplflash. I've been told it works on PPC, though.
[12:34] <ErgoSum> oh sorry
[12:35] <berkes> whether that is a Stallmanism or not, as long as it works, i beleive ittl reach far more ppl.
[12:35] <ErgoSum> it was on moz plugin dir not in firefox plugin dir
[12:35] <atrophic> berkes, but that takes out all the fun ;)
[12:35] <ErgoSum> let me cp it :P
[12:35] <darksoul> whats that thing called
[12:35] <djm62> berkes: it's partly a matter of hardware choice, but the last time I used a non-debiish system, the package management had surpassed RH7 style rpm
[12:35] <darksoul> gnome-burner?
[12:36] <nickrud> gnome-baker
[12:36] <simonvallore> robotgeek,  much <3 man thanks alot
[12:36] <erUSUL> darksoul, gnome-baker
[12:36] <darksoul> ah thanks
[12:36] <berkes> ive been plugging loads of CDs with friends and all, most of wich gave em back with the message it sucked cause it coulndt even play FooBar media
[12:36] <robotgeek> simonvallore: np
[12:36] <erUSUL> !gnome-baker
[12:36] <ubotu> erUSUL: I give up, what is it?
[12:36] <idiot> I try apt-get install synce and it doesn't find anything, anywhere I can get the *.debs and such?
[12:36] <darksoul> darksoul@network:~$ sudo apt-get install gnome-baker
[12:36] <darksoul> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 25 04:29:35 2005
[12:36] <darksoul> darksoul@network:~$
[12:36] <darksoul> darksoul@network:~$ sudo apt-get install gnome-baker
[12:36] <darksoul> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov 25 04:29:35 2005
[12:36] <darksoul> darksoul@network:~$
[12:36] <TokenBad> if I want to install something but have it overwrite a previous install..how do I do that?
[12:36] <nickrud> !info gnomebaker
[12:36] <berkes> djm62: it surely has, it surpassed not only in hardware support all other linux distros also in ease of use.
[12:36] <ubotu> gnomebaker: (application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 359 kB, Installed size: 1240 kB
[12:36] <erUSUL> darksoul, please do not paste here. see topic
[12:36] <darksoul> did i miss somthing
[12:37] <robotgeek> darksoul: your clock is wrong
[12:37] <berkes> I am merely contemplating about the next step in linuxland :)
[12:37] <darksoul> robotgeek: sorry. clocks 100% right
[12:37] <idiot> I try apt-get install synce and it doesn't find anything, anywhere I can get the *.debs and such?
[12:37] <atrophic> darksoul, is the time zone set properly as well?
[12:37] <berkes> which would be a cdrom that Just Worked with Everything
[12:37] <atrophic> try synchronizing the clock
[12:38] <berkes> and not Just With Good Free Stuff :)
[12:38] <berkes> anyway, in the mean time, i can still not watch the last episode of channel frederator......
[12:39] <protok0l> erUSUL: aplay -l lists 2 hardware devices, i know one doesnt work
[12:39] <protok0l> not sure which
[12:40] <erUSUL> protok0l, maybe know they are configured in reverse order so your apps are playing in the wrong one?
[12:40] <erUSUL> now*
[12:41] <djm62> berkes: in the absolute long run, ABI, API, AOB will stabilise, and co-operation between non-free and free won't be as hard
[12:41] <protok0l> erUSUL: i change them manually in XMMS and it still doesnt play. the equalizer moves normally and no errors
[12:41] <berkes> djm62: what are those TLAs?
[12:41] <djm62> IMHO
[12:42] <djm62> berkes: Application Binary Interface (for making binary plugins/modules), Application Programming Interface (for gluing with source code available), and Any Other Business
[12:43] <MachineScrew> !info seahorse
[12:43] <erUSUL> protok0l, then i'm lost the cards get recognized, proper drivers loaded and no errors are shown...
[12:43] <ubotu> seahorse: (A Gnome front end for GnuPG), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.8-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 860 kB, Installed size: 3064 kB
[12:43] <berkes> ah, okay.
[12:43] <ErgoSum> nickrud, well some flash load but others crach my FF :(
[12:43] <djm62> berkes: right now, the linux kernel is a moving target for closed source drivers, but it has to slow down eventually
[12:43] <berkes> but, again: it seems (my) multiverse repositories are broken, anyone here to confirm that?
[12:43] <Meaulnes> anyone use vpnc to connect to a cisco vpn? or anyone have any experience getting the cisco vpn client working?
[12:44] <gnuyen> is there a way to get serpentine to work with mp3s?
[12:44] <Jestre> Meaulnes: I'm using the Cisco client
[12:44] <gnuyen> i have gstreamer0.8 installed
[12:44] <nickrud> ErgoSum, the last option seems to be setting up a chroot where you can run 32bit stuff on your 64; there are instructions floating around the net. Me personally, I keep flash disabled on my 32 ;)
[12:44] <erUSUL> djm62, kernel developers are against stable drivers apis with all their heart
[12:44] <gnuyen> gstreamer0.8-lame
[12:45] <djm62> erUSUL: you mean now, or will all future developers be against them? ;)
[12:45] <berkes> djm62: ATM the moving kernel is not the main issue.  The main issue was that they simply were not allowed to distributre it for Free (as in freedom)
[12:45] <Meaulnes> Jestre: I have gotten the thing working b4 in k/ubuntu ... but for some reason this time it is giving me problem .... during the install it tells me that it cannot make cisco_ipsec.ko
[12:45] <erUSUL> djm62, now and in the future
[12:45] <berkes> djm62: which is why devian/ubuntu chose not to get involved in that at all.
[12:45] <_native_> OAMP 0wnz
[12:46] <oxez> Hi budies
[12:46] <Screevo> Anyone have any success getting nForce 410 boards to work right in 5.10 64Bit?
[12:46] <Meaulnes> Jestre: I have installed the linux-source and linux-headers, as well ass gcc-3.4 and build-essential ....
[12:46] <djm62> erUSUL: I defer to your time travelling skillz, sir
[12:46] <_native_> oxez; your not buddy. ;p
[12:46] <Jestre> Meaulnes: Hmmm... built fine for me on breezy, but I had to patch it for Fedora (since they're using a newer kernel)
[12:46] <nasimuto> Could anyone send me their Gnome's Ubuntu Start button (that nice round ubuntu logo)? - I'd like to put it to my xfce
[12:46] <davethewave> Hello, I tried the site someone gave me for fixres, but now x wont run (I'm in bitchx)
[12:46] <Jestre> Meaulnes: That's all I've got
[12:46] <ErgoSum> any1 knows how to mount a windows partition and dont have problems with character encording?
[12:46] <oxez> _native_, think outside the ()s
[12:46] <oxez> :P
[12:47] <Meaulnes> Jestre: I am running breezy on this thing and I do not recall any problem with breezy before ...
[12:47] <nickrud> davethewave, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , that will get you back where you started
[12:47] <_native_> lol
[12:47] <Meaulnes> argh
[12:47] <_native_> ergh
[12:47] <_native_> frgh
[12:47] <davethewave> ok thanks :D
[12:48] <DK_II> anyone know why I keep getting a red line go across the screen in XChat??
[12:48] <Screevo> Question: If I have an Athlon 64, can I straight install the 32 bit version?
[12:48] <Screevo> To get better driver support, etc?
[12:48] <atrophic> DK_II, because somebody says your name on that line
[12:48] <nickrud> Screevo, yes, for better driver support :)
[12:48] <oxez> Anyone know if OO2 final is in the backports?
[12:49] <Screevo> Will the nForce 410 Just Work (tm) with the 32bit?
[12:49] <Ophiocus> is there a way to check and flag bad sectors in a drive prior to installation with the ubuntu cd?
[12:49] <Screevo> This 64 bit install, I cant get the sound to detect at all.
[12:49] <DK_II> no I know that atrophic its not a sentence its just a plain red line
[12:49] <agtnz> nasimuto: Take a look here > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork?highlight=%28artwork%29 Theres a small ico file linked at the end.
[12:49] <nasimuto> agtnz: thanks
[12:49] <atrophic> DK_II, then no, I have no idea. sorry :/
[12:49] <pepsi> DK its the "marker line"
[12:50] <DK_II> oh right first time I see that is it new?
[12:50] <Meaulnes> DK_II: it is a setting somewhere in preferences, it marks something ... took me forever to figure out how to get rid of it the last time I used XChat ...
[12:50] <pepsi> DK_II, right
[12:50] <agtnz> nasimuto: np, i had the same idea :P
[12:50] <Screevo> Anyone know about this nForce 410 chipset? The forums are next to useless for me
[12:50] <DK_II> ok thanks guys I'll have a look in the settings
[12:50] <nasimuto> agtnz: its too small :(
[12:51] <agtnz> nasimuto: Mmm it was ok for my panel size - not sure where to get a bigger one from
[12:51] <DK_II> ah yes show marker line
[12:51] <nasimuto> agtnz: ok, ill try this one. But the gnome one was nice and smooth + huge
[12:51] <Screevo> nForce 410 Sound in 5.10 64 bit. Anyone have any idea?
[12:52] <davethewave> it loaded edubuntu lol
[12:52] <jason> i'm trying to install kde on ubuntu but its not working
[12:52] <Phoul> Would somone help me find some thems and stuff?
[12:53] <erUSUL> djm62, read this from a important kernel developer http://www.kroah.com/log/2005/11/03/
[12:54] <NoUse> !tell Phoul about themes
[12:54] <NoUse> Phoul ubotu sent you some links
[12:54] <nickrud> Screevo, you might find this interesting: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=57791
[12:54] <davethewave> Jason, there is Kubuntu if you prefer Kde
[12:54] <djm62> erUSUL: I know the current position...I have come to expect linux to outlast the authors
[12:54] <davethewave> not sure how to get them both on the same OS, I know it's possible... i think ;)
[12:54] <oxez> Is it okay to install OO2 final from the official installer from openoffice.org?
[12:55] <oxez> I'll remove the current one in synaptic
[12:55] <Phoul> I noticed
[12:55] <DK_II> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to get KDE as well
[12:55] <rave_> apt-get install kde
[12:55] <Phoul> I have kde...
[12:55] <rave_> will be enough
[12:55] <erUSUL> djm62, and this from Linus himself http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5056
[12:55] <Phoul> 0_o
[12:55] <Phoul> i guess you aient talkin to me
[12:55] <Phoul> :P
[12:56] <davethewave> I have to reboot, fixres made X un-startable.. got that fixed but now it loads edubuntu desktop :O
[12:57] <jason> how do i install kde's dependencies
[12:57] <djm62> erUSUL: this still doesn't amount to clairvoyance...in time, things will change.  my prediction is less categorical than yours
[12:57] <nickrud> jason, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop gets you kde
[12:58] <erUSUL> djm62, the quote from Linus is about legal issues binary only drivers in linux are alegal (if not ilegal)
[12:58] <davethewave> how come bitchx auto-ignores NickServ for flooding when I ask it for help
[12:58] <jason> can not find kubuntu-desktop package
[12:59] <_native_> tor rocks!
[12:59] <benguin> hi there
[12:59] <davethewave> did you try kde in place of kubuntu-desktop
[12:59] <DK_II> you need to unmark some lines in sources.list (#)
[12:59] <_native_> privoxy rocks!
[12:59] <nickrud> jason, are you connected to the net?
[12:59] <benguin> anyone using a HP zx5000 laptop?
[12:59] <davethewave> nickrud... rofl
[12:59] <davethewave> how would he be on irc ;)
[12:59] <LjL> erUSUL: nice guy, that torvalds
[12:59] <nickrud> windows
[12:59] <davethewave> oh i see
[12:59] <jason> how is that done
[01:00] <atrophic> argh, the mail finally turned up my miniPCI wireless card that should just work with ubuntu. But I just realized I don't have a screwdriver small enough to open up the laptop :/
[01:00] <DK_II> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:00] <nickrud> Spent a long time going round and round on that one once :)
[01:00] <LjL> kubuntu-desktop is in main, if his apt-get cannot find it, there's something very wrong
[01:00] <LjL> or, rather, he's never apt-get update'd at all
[01:01] <djm62> erUSUL: how long is your long run? seriously, I'm not speculating out of ignorance: companies want this.  they have money, it will happen one way or another.  Also there will be more stability in the kernel over time, unless they intentionally break compatibility to stop interactions they don't like (remind you of anyone?)
[01:01] <tjj> seeking knowledge on partman recipes during install
[01:01] <LjL> jason: type "sudo apt-get update; sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" and see if that works
[01:01] <erUSUL> LjL, well without him (kernel) and stallman (gcc) (among others) you will not be using GNU/Linux systems
[01:02] <LjL> erUSUL: i *would* not, not i *will* not... it's GPL, i can keep using it without them :)
[01:02] <LjL> erUSUL: not that i would *like* that to happen
[01:02] <tjj> I can't seem to get it to create var and tmp partitions
[01:03] <erUSUL> djm62, the gpl is desgned precisaly to keep the things as they are you can turn a BSD into comercial crap but you can not turn the linux kernel into windows
[01:03] <djm62> erUSUL: wtf? I wasn't implying that, or anything like that
[01:03] <djm62> erUSUL: this isn't an ideological thing
[01:03] <tjj> anyone here messed with partman recipes
[01:03] <ErgoSum> any1 knows how to mount a windows partition and dont have problems with character encording?
[01:04] <dr_willis> ErgoSum,  what language you using as your main one?
[01:04] <djm62> erUSUL: although it is an #ubuntu-offtopic thing, come to think of it
[01:04] <Moco> I have been trying to get Super Tux to work for quite some time now. It has compiled successfully, but it says that it can't load the png file black-letters.png.
[01:04] <Moco> I have all the PNG libraries (including the SDL perl PNG library) but it still won't work..
[01:05] <jason> no match
[01:05] <Moco> I have also tried installing it via synaptic pkg manger, but that doesn't work either..
[01:05] <ericz> i',m having a problem with my soundcard... it seems to well... not exist?
[01:05] <erUSUL> djm62, i read lkml sometimes and people there are "faighting" against companies persuing stable APIS
[01:05] <tjj> any one messed with partman recipes
[01:06] <ericz> can anyone help me out, ubuntu is basically telling me my soundcard is non-existant... it worked this morning
[01:06] <djm62> erUSUL: -offtopic if you want to discuss forward (bad to do this in the support channel)
[01:06] <dbyte> does anyone have a link for an up to date breezy sources.list?
[01:06] <cody> Hey guys, I'm trying to setup ndiswrapper on my laptop.  The wiki said after I install my inf file and modprobe ndiswarpper, I can setup my Wlan device under Desktop->Administration->Networking.  But I can't figure out how to do shit with that little util.
[01:07] <erUSUL> djm62, you are right. my bad
[01:07] <atrophic> cody, does ndiswrapper say your hardware is present?
[01:07] <cody> atrophic: Yes.
[01:08] <ericz> my soundcard like doesn't exist according to ubuntu
[01:08] <atrophic> and it shows up in the networking admin?
[01:08] <ericz> it worked perfect earlier today
[01:08] <ericz> can someone help me
[01:08] <cody> bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[01:08] <cody> atrophic: No, it doesn't show up in the networking admin.
[01:09] <atrophic> cody, I had the same problem, a restart made it show up. While I'm sure there's a way to make it show up without restarting, I can't tell you what it is ;)
[01:09] <cody> Restarting now.
[01:09] <cody> atrophic: I guess it's been awhile since I used Windows, because I'm not used to having to restart after installing something anymore. :)
[01:10] <atrophic> cody, like I said, I'm sure it's not required, I just haven't used linux for long enough to figure it out ;)
[01:10] <jason> how do i add a new source to sources.list
[01:10] <cody> :)
[01:10] <libben> linkd, now im back from recovery mode, but i couldent get windows to boot. i typed fixmbr after i got into recovery and it fixed something. so now grub wont load anymore. so what do i do now to install grub again so i can get it working with my linux disks_
[01:10] <atrophic> jason, uncomment the source in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:10] <_native_> realplayer has serious integration issues under ubuntu.
[01:11] <atrophic> jason, "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" will give you an editor
[01:11] <linkd> libben: thats correct
[01:11] <Toran> is there a way I can play some of the games on candystand.com in ubuntu/linux?
[01:11] <linkd> oh wait
[01:11] <linkd> libben: windows still isnt loading/
[01:11] <opnsrc> How do I add a computer icon to the desktop
[01:11] <opnsrc> I have one on one of my logins but not my root and I forgot
[01:12] <Moco> Have you tried running chkdsk from something like BartPE linkd?
[01:12] <libben> nope. it only jumps to NTDLR is missing. earlier i had grub and then i hit enter on windows entry and got that message
[01:12] <orbx> to make Torrent downloads faster i heard you have to open up ports, does anyone know what port setting i would open for BitTorrent
[01:12] <linkd> libben: and linux is on a different drive to windows?
[01:12] <atrophic> opnsrc, right-click and select create launcher?
[01:12] <libben> linkd, yes
[01:12] <linkd> hmm
[01:12] <opnsrc> no
[01:12] <opnsrc> I mean the one that starts on
[01:12] <atrophic> opnsrc, what's the computer icon supposed to do?
[01:13] <opnsrc> it starts with computer
[01:13] <Moco> libben: This has happened to me before and chkdsk from bartPE worked. Takes a while though..
[01:13] <libben> hda and hdb. but i think i planted the linux MBR onto hda
[01:13] <opnsrc> and has the drives listed
[01:13] <cody> atrophic: Hmm, weird.  I'm still not seeing any new devices in my Network settings dialog.
[01:13] <opnsrc> Cd rom, Floppy, FileSystem
[01:13] <nasimuto> is there a volume control manager for IceWM, that can sit neatly in tray and be & act like windows xp/98 volume control ?
[01:13] <ericz> someone help me out, what can i do to get linux to detect/recognize my soundcard.... sound wont work at all and it did fine earlier
[01:13] <jason> what one do i uncomment on?
[01:13] <libben> 2.6.10-4-386
[01:13] <oxez> ericz: what's your soundcard exactly?
[01:14] <libben> pretty old livecd
[01:14] <libben> hooray one
[01:14] <opnsrc> like the one under places/computer
[01:14] <ericz> not entirely sure, but it worked perfect this morning
[01:14] <opnsrc> view your computer storage
[01:14] <ericz> i rebooted and it seems to not work
[01:14] <oxez> ericz: first make sure the modules are properly loaded with lsmod | grep snd
[01:14] <atrophic> cody, does it show up in ifconfig/iwconfig?
[01:14] <Locke> are the US archives open yet?
[01:14] <linkd> libben: im not sure how to repair that. however, this forum thread seems to have a solution u might try http://www.anetforums.com/posts.aspx?ThreadIndex=10606
[01:14] <ericz> System > Preferences > Sound shows that i have
[01:14] <ericz> no soundcard
[01:15] <cody> atrophic: No.
[01:15] <Moco> I have been trying to get Super Tux to work for quite some time now. It has compiled successfully, but it says that it can't load the png file black-letters.png.
[01:15] <libben> linkd, but if i would want to get to grub menu again? i just type sudo grub-install
[01:15] <Moco> I have all the PNG libraries (including the SDL perl PNG library) but it still won't work..
[01:15] <opnsrc> I know it's under System tools>configuration editor somewhere
[01:15] <linkd> libben: thats pretty much correct yes.
[01:16] <ericz> ubuntu's telling me i dont have a soundcard,
[01:16] <linkd> libben: well.. grub-install /dev/hdX where X is ur harddrive
[01:16] <ericz> what can i do?
[01:16] <cody> atrophic: Did you have to manually add it to /etc/network/interfaces?
[01:16] <atrophic> cody, did you modprobe ndiswrapper and add ndiswrapper to etc/modules?
[01:16] <atrophic> cody, no, I didn't
[01:17] <Ophiocus> how can i make firefox use xmms to open shoutcast playlists?
[01:17] <atrophic> cody, and does "ndiswrapper -l" show the driver installed and hardware present as well?
[01:17] <cody> bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[01:18] <pbransford> How can I go about finding libdvdcss and other such... questionable... media stuff?
[01:18] <cody> If I run iwconfig, it lists lo, eth0, and sit0.
[01:18] <pbransford> ?
[01:18] <cody> atrophic: And all three say no wireless extensions.
[01:18] <pbransford> did you do this:
[01:18] <pbransford> depmod -a
[01:18] <ericz> what can i do... ubuntu keeps telling me i have no soundcard
[01:18] <opnsrc> anyone know
[01:18] <ericz> and it work
[01:18] <pbransford> after installing ndiswrapper?
[01:18] <opnsrc> ?
[01:18] <ericz> this morning
[01:18] <nickrud> opnsrc, you mean /apps/nautilus/desktop , I think
[01:19] <pbransford> and make sure you modprobe ndiswrapper as well...
[01:19] <djm62> ericz: what has changed since this morning?
[01:19] <pbransford> then it SHOULD show up
[01:19] <opnsrc> the same place that lets you add the trashcan
[01:19] <ericz> nothing that i know of
[01:19] <ericz> i rebooted
[01:19] <ericz> earlier
[01:19] <cody> pbransford: I just ran depmod -a now, and it's already modprobe'd.
[01:19] <opnsrc> yeah that
[01:19] <opnsrc> thanks
[01:19] <ericz> is there a way to get ubuntu to like
[01:19] <ericz> search for a soundcard
[01:19] <ericz> or something
[01:19] <pbransford> cody, odd. I use ndiswrapper with the same hardware, no issues here
[01:19] <ericz> make it re-detect stuff
[01:20] <pbransford> or at least the same driver
[01:20] <pbransford> bcmwl5.inf and bcmwl5.sys right?
[01:20] <opnsrc> thanks
[01:20] <cody> pbransford: This is my first time to ever use any wireless stuff.
[01:20] <cody> pbransford: Yeah.
[01:20] <djm62> ericz: nothing at all has changed? and you know for sure it isn't that the volume is muted?
[01:20] <cody> pbransford: Did you have to edit /etc/network/interfaces manually or anything?
[01:20] <pbransford> nope
[01:20] <cody> feh
[01:20] <ericz> because
[01:20] <cody> Why won't it show up?
[01:20] <pbransford> i didnt even have ubuntu installed all the way and i had it working
[01:20] <ericz> system > preferences > sound
[01:21] <ericz> shows me
[01:21] <ericz> as not having a soundcard
[01:21] <ericz> and i do!
[01:21] <Locke> where can i get XMMS?
[01:21] <pbransford> synaptics
[01:21] <pbransford> or apt-get install xmms
[01:21] <Locke> tried that
[01:21] <Locke> it said it's not available
[01:21] <cody> I'm going to try to restart one more time. :)
[01:22] <pbransford> where can i find libdvdcss? i dont care about patents.
[01:22] <nickrud> !repos
[01:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[01:22] <pbransford> or dmca...
[01:22] <cody> pbransford: Hmm.. I am using amd64, and I supposedly downloaded the amd64 drivers.
[01:22] <Moco> Paul Bransford, what you are asking to do with libdvdcss is illegal. You are being reported to authorities....  ;)
[01:22] <pbransford> never touched 64bit
[01:22] <InitMass> when trying to burn with k3b i get an error saying "Incorrectly encoded string (g??nget.JPG) encountered." the problem is that i can't search for that file with "find". how do i find this file among thousands of files??
[01:22] <linkd> pbransford: u can apt-get it
[01:22] <pbransford> Moco, then they can have fun getting through my non-us cyphers :P
[01:23] <pbransford> linkd, i need a repo that has it...
[01:23] <linkd> pbransford: just apt-cache search libdvdcss first. tell me if its got libdvdcss2 in there
[01:23] <linkd> or something similar
[01:23] <Moco> Lol. The DMCA is so stupid.
[01:23] <pbransford> linkd, nope
[01:23] <psusi> yes... it is
[01:24] <pbransford> want my apt source file?
[01:24] <linkd> throw it on a pastebin
[01:24] <pbransford> er... how :?
[01:24] <nickrud> InitMass, you should be able to search with g\?\?nget.JPG
[01:24] <psusi> pbransford, http://www.pastebin.com
[01:24] <linkd> http://rafb.net/paste/
[01:24] <Moco> or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[01:25] <pbransford> aaah! linkd, which one would you prefer?
[01:25] <linkd> so many to choose from
[01:25] <linkd> pbransford: it doesnt bother me
[01:25] <djm62> InitMass: locate nget.J ?
[01:25] <nickrud> oh, too simple ;P
[01:26] <pbransford> http://pastebin.com/438265
[01:26] <pbransford> i think...
[01:26] <_native_> dad; http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_About:config_Entries#Accessibility..2A
[01:26] <InitMass> nick_, djm62 thank you. locate worked
[01:27] <pbransford> if i remember there was a wiki page with some french repo...
[01:27] <_native_> my dad RoCk$!
[01:27] <_native_> ;p
[01:28] <The_Libertarian> Any one here use giFT?
[01:28] <nasimuto> is there a volume control manager for IceWM, that can sit neatly in tray and be & act like windows xp/98 volume control ?
[01:28] <linkd> pbransford: this is mine http://pastebin.com/438267
[01:28] <rubem> hi there
[01:28] <gfish> ok ive done something stupid
[01:28] <rubem> which c\c++ ide do you use in ubuntu??
[01:28] <pbransford> booted win95?
[01:28] <gfish> no
[01:28] <linkd> pbransford: somewhere in mine is the lib u want.. just not sure where or how to find out
[01:28] <ClayG> What is a program that can convert an .mpg(already in dvd format a+v) into a dvd and structure it so as well
[01:29] <jason> can some one post there list file thay has gnome and kde installed
[01:29] <_native_> will ubuntu ever include fluxbox themes?, i hate grabin things elsewhere when i could just apt-get. :]
[01:29] <gfish> i was installing knoquerer and accidently clicked cancel
[01:29] <cody> rubem: emacs
[01:29] <pbransford> linkd, you just have a bitish mirror thats all... same repos (supposedly)
[01:29] <gfish> but some stuff installed and some didnt
[01:29] <_native_> cody; Vi damn you !!
[01:29] <_native_> jk'
[01:29] <cody> heh
[01:29] <nalioth> gfish: so start the process again
[01:29] <gfish> just start it
[01:29] <linkd> pbransford: yea i know but for one time "gotta have it" download itll be alright
[01:30] <_native_> any one using privoxy with ubuntu?
[01:30] <ErgoSum> re
[01:30] <linkd> _native_: yup
[01:30] <nalioth> gfish: you are using synaptic/adept/apt-get , right?
[01:30] <pbransford> ill search for it on the wiki, though...
[01:30] <gfish> nalioth wont it make any difference if i started installing
[01:30] <linkd> pbransford: ok sure :)
[01:30] <gfish> nalioth, i used add aplications
[01:30] <ErgoSum> is it possible to set VLC as default video player?
[01:30] <pbransford> there was a page with info on that, mp3, windows codecs, mplayer, etc
[01:30] <linkd> ErgoSum: for what filetype?
[01:30] <ErgoSum> every video
[01:30] <_native_> linkd; how do i scrub information so that details about my system are not revealed to sites?
[01:30] <nalioth> gfish: then you are fine, just restart the process
[01:30] <linkd> pbransford: u mean restricted formats?
[01:31] <gfish> ok
[01:31] <nickrud> jason, http://pastebin.com/438268 both kde and ubuntu, also xubuntu
[01:31] <pbransford> aha!
[01:31] <pbransford> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28libdvdcss%29
[01:31] <pbransford> yes restricted formats
[01:31] <linkd> pbransford: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:32] <ErgoSum> i cant find the option inside VLC
[01:32] <linkd> _native_: i dunno without reading the privoxy manuals. have u already read that?
[01:32] <ErgoSum> maybe is a gnome option
[01:32] <gfish> nalioth, u saved my ass once again
[01:32] <mossy> i got problem with sound, it comes up /dev/snd : permission denied
[01:32] <mossy> or something
[01:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mossy about sound
[01:32] <pepsi> if us.archive.ubuntu.com is down, can i use archive.ubuntu.com or is it just an alias to us.?
[01:33] <nalioth> mossy: your solution is on or linked from that page ubotu just sent you
[01:33] <nickrud> ErgoSum, you need to do that for each file type; right click a file, select properties, and use the open with tab to select your preferred app
[01:33] <pbransford> sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[01:33] <pbransford> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[01:33] <linkd> ErgoSum: i dunno about that cuz there is alot of video formats.. even ones ubuntu doesnt know about. but u can set it for each individual one.. but im not sure how to do that with gnome.
[01:33] <pbransford> thats what i needed
[01:33] <Moco> I have been trying to get Super Tux to work for quite some time now. It has benn compiled successfully, but it says that it can't load the png file black-letters.png.
[01:33] <nalioth> pepsi: yes, use archive.blae
[01:33] <linkd> pbransford: does it work?
[01:33] <jay> HELP!!! Can't locate XML/RAI.pm in @INC  <--- how do i fix this?
[01:33] <ErgoSum> thanks nickrud  linkd :)
[01:33] <LjL> pepsi: it's an alias, as far as i can see. but you can still use the "it." mirrors or  the "fr." mirrors, or a lot of other national mirrors
[01:33] <gfish> nalioth, i installed it and dont like it
[01:33] <linkd> ErgoSum: np
[01:33] <linkd> :)
[01:34] <pbransford> yep
[01:34] <pepsi> how about ca.?
[01:34] <Locke> does anyone know of a good audio converter?
[01:34] <pbransford> it downloaded it and used apt to install
[01:34] <pbransford> succedded
[01:34] <pbransford> gota go
[01:34] <LjL> pepsi: yeah, that too
[01:34] <linkd> pbransford: bye
[01:34] <pbransford> thanks for the help linkd
[01:34] <erUSUL> jay, some background will help us help you
[01:35] <jay> i am trying to install the app located at --> tvtrss.sf.net
[01:35] <Locke> does anyone know of a good audio converter for converting mp3 files to .ogg?
[01:35] <erUSUL> Locke, soundconverter
[01:36] <LjL> Locke: that will make you lose quality noticeably, mind you
[01:36] <ErgoSum> any idea why the full screen in VLC is not a real full screen?
[01:36] <atrophic> how do I add something to the taskbar?
[01:36] <jay> erSUL where can i paste the whole error so u can see?
[01:36] <nasimuto> is there a volume control manager for Xfce, that can sit neatly in tray and be & act like windows xp/98 volume control ? (lol, i always mixup icewm and xfce :/ )
[01:36] <Amaranth> atrophic: right click on a blank area, choose add to panel
[01:36] <bur[n] er> nasimuto: there's a volume panel plugin
[01:37] <opnsrc> Ok, you know how you have those arrows at the bottem right and left of the screen
[01:37] <erUSUL> jay, see topic
[01:37] <opnsrc> on the menu
[01:37] <opnsrc> that hide the menu
[01:37] <opnsrc> how do you make it hide and show the menu faster
[01:37] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[01:37] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:37] <atrophic> Amaranth, will that run the applet or just give me a link to it?
[01:37] <Amaranth> opnsrc: you don't?
[01:37] <SoulPropagation> does anyone know how to install OpenCASCADE?
[01:37] <Amaranth> atrophic: err
[01:38] <opnsrc> I've seen other distributions that let you do that
[01:38] <Amaranth> atrophic: if you add an applet it'll run it, if you add a link to an application it'll give you a link
[01:38] <opnsrc> something to do with eyecandy for Redhat linux or something
[01:38] <atrophic> Amaranth, thanks
[01:38] <jay> erUSUL: done
[01:38] <erUSUL> jay post the url
[01:39] <jay> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/5058
[01:39] <bn> hello
[01:40] <Daxie> hi
[01:40] <atrophic> nasimuto, right-click on the taskbar, click add to panel, scroll down to system & hardware, select Volume Control. Is that what you were looking for?
[01:40] <bn> I was wondering if anyone would know how to enable the Disk mounter applet, or the workspace switcher applet.
[01:41] <opnsrc> can't seem to find it
[01:41] <atrophic> bn, right click on panel, select add to panel, both are in there somewhere
[01:41] <nickrud> bn right click an open spot on the panel, and select add to panel.
[01:41] <erUSUL> jay you need to install some xml related perl package but i can not tell you wich :(
[01:41] <mossy> still got no sound
[01:41] <opnsrc> k thanks
[01:41] <mossy> :(
[01:41] <jay> i will install all of them :)
[01:41] <opnsrc> maybe Ubuntu doesn't have that
[01:42] <ErgoSum> any idea why the full screen in VLC is not a real full screen?
[01:42] <mossy> also i cant SU
[01:42] <mossy> root
[01:42] <nalioth> mossy: there is no root account
[01:42] <mossy> when runing adept
[01:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mossy about root
[01:42] <nalioth> mossy: use "kdesu adept"
[01:42] <djm62> ErgoSum: what are the symptoms?
[01:42] <robotgeek> mossy: did you add root user somehow?
[01:43] <mossy> no
[01:43] <mossy> it comes up Su retured an error
[01:43] <ErgoSum> djib, in "full screen" i can see the taskbar and the title menu
[01:43] <robotgeek> mossy: okay, then read the link which ubotu pm'ed you
[01:43] <nasimuto> atrophic: when i right-click on my xfce taskbar - then nothing happens. Taskbar is that bar where i cant see my active programs and trayicons, right ?
[01:43] <Locke> are ogg files still legal?
[01:43] <bn> How do you find the system & hardware, if it is not in the add to panel menu? I only have Applet, Application, Panel, and Special Button
[01:44] <_native_> Locke; why wouldnt they be?
[01:44] <jay> ugh
[01:44] <nalioth> Locke: ogg files will always be legal in format
[01:44] <Moco> Are they still legal?
[01:44] <jay> i really want this app to work
[01:44] <Locke> well, when they first came about, if you converted a mp3 file into ogg, you wouldn't be able to to get sued
[01:44] <Locke> but that was like... 2 years ago
[01:44] <djm62> ErgoSum: are you selecting full screen or maximising?
[01:44] <Moco> I am quite certain ogg's are still legal.
[01:45] <nalioth> Locke: that is not true. if you copy a new music album to ogg, you are illegal
[01:45] <_native_> Locke; its opensource shizzle man
[01:45] <nalioth> Locke: the format is open source and is not 'illegal' or patent encumbered
[01:45] <djm62> nalioth: depending on the country...
[01:45] <erUSUL> jay which app are you trying to compile?
[01:45] <ErgoSum> djm62, ful screen, cause it pops up a new windows but not a full screen window
[01:45] <jay> tvtrss.sf.net
[01:45] <djm62> ErgoSum: what wm are you using?
[01:45] <Locke> like i said, way back when it was a quick loophole, i didn't think it was the same anymore
[01:46] <ErgoSum> djm62, wm?
[01:46] <ErgoSum> window maker?
[01:46] <djm62> window manager
[01:46] <ErgoSum> gnome
[01:46] <SoulPropagation> does anyone know how to install OpenCASCADE?
[01:46] <Locke> how do i change the default for the program that files open up?
[01:47] <_native_> hey did you guys see this? http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/os/0,39024180,39237495,00.htm
[01:47] <nalioth> Locke: right click on them in nautilus and click 'properties'
[01:47] <ErgoSum> Locke, right click propeties - open with
[01:47] <mossy> mmmm
[01:47] <Locke> well, is there any way to change it to where i don't have to do that every time?
[01:47] <mossy> ok
[01:47] <ErgoSum> Locke, only once you have to do that
[01:47] <_native_> guess who got top review.... Ubuntu baby!! YEAH! ;]
[01:47] <nalioth> Locke: yes, click th box "rmember this selection'
[01:47] <Locke> i don't see a box that says that
[01:47] <nickrud> Locke, you need to use the properties window - that's a permanent change
[01:48] <Locke> and i've had to do that every time i open a file
[01:48] <nickrud> Locke, the properties at the bottom of the right click menue
[01:48] <ErgoSum> djm62, any idea?
[01:48] <psusi> can anyone show me an example of using the -prune switch with find?  it keeps telling me paths must preceed expression no matter where I put it
[01:48] <Locke> k, got it
[01:48] <rubem> anyone know a good c\c++ ide for ubuntu?
[01:49] <djm62> ErgoSum: looks like a problem between vlc and the window manager (hints?).  doesn't happen on my machine
[01:49] <erUSUL> rubem, anjuta, kdevelop, (emacs ;))
[01:49] <ErgoSum> djm62, :S
[01:50] <erUSUL> rubem, vdk builder... etc
[01:50] <PsiDragon> Hello, Quick question: How can I install my dhcp using Ubuntu's installer from a CD ISO, from WITHIN a Debian System?
[01:51] <ColD_7> anyone know how to change the background color when the splash screen appear during the startup? (I don't mean changing the splash screen as i know how)
[01:51] <djm62> ErgoSum: I'll have a wee grep through my vlc config
[01:52] <ErgoSum> k
[01:52] <Ophiocus> PsiDragon, why not use synaptic or apt-get ?
[01:52] <NeoFax12> How do I remove the root password? I had to add it to use Automatix.
[01:53] <PsiDragon> Ophiocus could you give me the terminal entry for apt-get?
[01:53] <nalioth> how can NeoFax12 disable the root account?
[01:53] <djm62> ErgoSum: in ~/.vlc/vlcrc you could look at the video-deco line
[01:54] <djm62> ErgoSum: but I have no idea why yours isn't set by default the same way mine is
[01:54] <ErgoSum> let me see.
[01:55] <SoulPropagation> can anyone help me with installing opencascade?
[01:55] <erUSUL> NeoFax12, edit /etc/shadow and put a * in the second field of the root line
[01:55] <erUSUL> ??
[01:55] <PsiDragon> Ophiocus could you give me the terminal entry for apt-get?  I don't know how to find it
[01:55] <ErgoSum> djm62, #video-deco=1
[01:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell PsiDragon about apt-get
[01:56] <djm62> ErgoSum: that's commented out (the # bit) and you should try making it 0 (at least, it's worth a go)
[01:56] <jay> anyone know what XML-RAI is?
[01:56] <ErgoSum> djm62, ok
[01:56] <djm62> ErgoSum: make that line video-deco=0 in other words :)
[01:57] <ErgoSum> :)
[01:57] <ErgoSum> same problem yet
[01:57] <Ophiocus> erm,. should go like ,..      sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server             *and something like sudo apt-get install dhcpclient
[01:57] <jay> anyone?
[01:58] <ErgoSum> opens a new windows but i can see the task bar and the title bar
[01:58] <jay> i found the cpan page.... but it won't compile
[01:58] <psusi> can anyone show me an example of using the -prune switch with find?  it keeps telling me paths must preceed expression no matter where I put it
[02:00] <djm62> ErgoSum: I'm stumped
[02:00] <ErgoSum> haha
[02:00] <_classic> does any1 know if it's possible to add a directory (which is readable on a pc) to a valid dvd-image?
[02:00] <robotgeek> NeoFax12: can you let me know if that worked?
[02:01] <_classic> i'd like to add a folder with pics to a dvd, besides a movie.. does that compromise the dvd-filestructure?
[02:02] <lightbright> ever since I updated to xchat 2.6.0 I cant ignore anyone! there isnt a ignore option!  any help?
[02:02] <djm62> ErgoSum: your problem is that the wm is insisting on decorating the fullscreen window, maybe you could try a vlc irc room?
[02:03] <nalioth> lightbright: you can't /ignore NICK  at the text entry line?
[02:03] <PsiDragon> ubotu: tell PsiDragon about synaptic
[02:03] <ErgoSum> djm62, is something like this: http://img498.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazo4zy.png
[02:03] <PsiDragon> :|
[02:03] <lightbright> nalioth: no, it doesnt work!  it says: Usage: IGNORE <mask> <types..> <options..> mask - host mask to ignore, eg<EMAIL_ADDRESS>types - types of data to ignore, one or all of: PRIV, CHAN, NOTI, CTCP, DCC, INVI, ALL options - NOSAVE, QUIET
[02:04] <nalioth> lightbright: that is weird
[02:04] <lightbright> nalioth: whenever I type /ignore NICK  it gives me that message!  any ideas?
[02:04] <robotgeek> lightbright: /ignore nick all
[02:04] <lightbright> robotgeek: when I type that it says NICK is ignored, YET I can still see them typing
[02:04] <lightbright> nalioth: am I using a legitmate xchat 2.6.0?
[02:04] <purplefeltangel> hm, can someone help me with a program? it was written in 1998 and it has versions for windows, DOS and mac, plus source code for Unix....im going ot have to compile it myself, arent i?
[02:05] <nalioth> lightbright: idk. where did you get it and what does "help > about xchat" say?
[02:05] <robotgeek> lightbright: oh, i tht irssi.
[02:05] <lightbright> nalioth: I did a apt-get upgrade and it installed!
[02:06] <lightbright> nalioth: what irc program do you use?
[02:06] <N6pfk> My touchpad mouse has stopped working and I have no synaptic module to modprobe?
[02:06] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, yes or use the dos version in a dos emulator/envoirement
[02:06] <nalioth> lightbright: irssi
[02:06] <lightbright> nalioth: maybe from backports
[02:06] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: compiling something is Not For N00bs, hm?
[02:06] <lightbright> nalioth: is irssi better than xchat?
[02:07] <djm62> ErgoSum: have you tried in the preferences dialog?  if you check the advanced button at the bottom right and check the video bit
[02:07] <nalioth> lightbright: they both offer things the other does not
[02:07] <lightbright> robotgeek: why do you use irssi over xchat?
[02:07] <opnsrc> Ok, I have another HD that's fat32
[02:07] <opnsrc> how do I mount it and keep it mounted?
[02:07] <nalioth> lightbright: i like irssi because i can access it from ANYWHERE in the world
[02:07] <opnsrc> every time it starts up for all users
[02:07] <lightbright> nalioth: how do you ignore someone?  through irssi or typing?
[02:07] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, you can try but it's very old it could easily fail
[02:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell opnsrc about easymount
[02:07] <nalioth> lightbright: i type /ignore NICK
[02:08] <opnsrc> thanks
[02:08] <lightbright> nalioth: No candidate version found for irssi
[02:08] <rajasun> lightbright: irssi, bitchx are text clients. Each has its fans and critics. To each his/her own preferences.
[02:08] <robotgeek> lightbright: irssi-text
[02:08] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: i've never compiled anything before.... :/ this isnt really the place to ask how, is it?
[02:08] <_classic> does any1 know if it's possible to add a directory (which is readable on a pc) to a valid dvd-image?
[02:08] <PsiDragon> nalioth: what dhcp installer does Ubuntu's ISO CD installer use?  I need to install it on my Debian system (My Ubuntu GUI didn't work)
[02:08] <nalioth> lightbright: it's called irssi-text and it is already on your system. type 'irssi" at a console
[02:08] <robotgeek> lightbright: plus, it's installed
[02:08] <opnsrc> thanks
[02:08] <lightbright> ok
[02:08] <opnsrc> should I run the script as root?
[02:08] <BudSmoker> anybody ever have problems getting sound out of VLC, it plays the video just fine but I can get any sound..
[02:09] <nalioth> PsiDragon: i'm not sure, but you can grab it from packages.ubuntu.com and try to install it on your debian
[02:09] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, it comes in a tar.gz??
[02:09] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: nope
[02:09] <ubuntu> can someone browse fat32 hard disk through ubuntu ?
[02:09] <nalioth> opnsrc: read the script in a text editor, it has full instructions
[02:09] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: http://www.astrolog.org/astrolog/astfile.htm
[02:09] <ErgoSum> djm62, video bit?
[02:09] <N6pfk> Any idea on how to get my touchpad working?
[02:10] <djm62> ErgoSum: in the preferences window, at the left, the the bit that says video
[02:10] <ErgoSum> yes
[02:10] <PsiDragon> nalioth: Thank You.  Where could I find out what DHCP Installer Ubuntu uses in its ISO CD?
[02:10] <opnsrc> I read it
[02:10] <opnsrc> it said run it
[02:10] <opnsrc> and type own pw
[02:10] <djm62> and there's a checkbox for access to "advanced" settings at the bottom left of the prefs window
[02:10] <nalioth> PsiDragon: i'm not sure, sorry.
[02:10] <ErgoSum> yes
[02:10] <ErgoSum> and then?
[02:11] <PsiDragon> nalioth: Thank You.
[02:11] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, it is a shar file try sh file.shr
[02:11] <djm62> ErgoSum: drag the scroll bar (on the right) down until you see the window decorations checkbox...it might work
[02:12] <ErgoSum> it is unchecked and still the same prob
[02:13] <Knowerrors> whats the best firewall for ubuntu?
[02:13] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: ok, id id that...and it told me tha ta bunch of things were obsolete :/ no what
[02:14] <djm62> ErgoSum: ok, now I'm genuinely out of suggestions :(
[02:14] <ErgoSum> :SS
[02:14] <djm62> ErgoSum: try a vlc channel if you can find one
[02:14] <ErgoSum> in totem i can do a full screen :(
[02:15] <ErgoSum> ok
[02:15] <ErgoSum> ill try
[02:15] <ErgoSum> thanks 4 ur help
[02:15] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, wait i'm dl it now
[02:15] <bitnet> hey all
[02:15] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: ok
[02:17] <bitnet> got one question. is it possible to enable the root account of an Ubuntu 05.4 desktop?
[02:17] <djm62> bitnet: possible but not advisable
[02:17] <robotgeek> bitnet: why do you need to do that?
[02:17] <purplefeltangel> erusul: also it extracted a bunch of stuff into my Home folder...where should i move it??
[02:18] <bitnet> lots of things. one, as a beginner, i want to get control of the different services using as much as possible GUI
[02:18] <robotgeek> bitnet: sure, all is possible thru gui
[02:19] <bitnet> http for instance, mysql, etc
[02:19] <robotgeek> bitnet: even without enabling root
[02:19] <lightbright> when I removed xchat using aptitude, it said it removed xchat and ubuntu-desktop. BUT dont I need ubuntu dekstop?
[02:19] <djm62> bitnet: the command is sudo
[02:19] <rixth> Hey- I know you can't do a direct copy of commerical DVDs, but if you have a DVD-R can you just do a normal disc to disc copy?
[02:19] <Mabus06> how do I set up a network game in freeciv?
[02:19] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell bitnet about sudo
[02:19] <cin_> Does anyone know of any up to date books that can help me understand Linux more? I want to learn to install progs and stuff but the tutorials they come with are no help
[02:19] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, i've tried to compile it myself and it has code errors you won't be able to compile it sorry :(
[02:19] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: so what should i do if i want to use it :/
[02:19] <robotgeek> lightbright: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package,
[02:19] <lightbright> nalioth: when I removed xchat using aptitude, it said it removed xchat and ubuntu-desktop. BUT dont I need ubuntu dekstop?
[02:20] <djm62> lightbright: ubuntu-desktop depends on all the desktop stuff, but not vice-versa...it's shorthand for "install everything I depend upon" (IIRC)
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> cin_,  get a book based on your disrto they are different :( and check all the online tutorials/wiki's first
[02:20] <lightbright> robotgeek: whats a  meta-package?
[02:20] <bitnet> yeap i tried sudo, but i suppose it only works well when i am on a console
[02:20] <robotgeek> lightbright: make sure you install it back when you dist-upgrade
[02:20] <lightbright> robotgeek: what you mean?  I should now type apt-get upgrade?
[02:20] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, try searching for another program. try the dos version with dosbox
[02:20] <robotgeek> lightbright: it's a package which installs other packages, it doesn't contain anything but dependencies
[02:20] <nalioth> lightbright: not until you upgrade to dapper
[02:20] <cin_> Thats what I mean, wiki's and junk are no help...I need one for Ubuntu/ Debian...Maybe BSD I really haven't ventured into BSD yet
[02:20] <robotgeek> lightbright: no, say when you are moving to dapper
[02:20] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL ok
[02:20] <lightbright> robotgeek: so what do I need to do now?
[02:20] <robotgeek> lightbright: nothing
[02:21] <lightbright> robotgeek: so I dont need ubuntu-desktop?
[02:21] <robotgeek> lightbright: not really :)
[02:21] <plagerism> Is it just me or is everyone having problems with latest update of kernel/fglrx drivers??
[02:21] <lightbright> robotgeek: btw, I removed backports from sourceslist and reinstalled xchat and now ignore works
[02:22] <lightbright> im not going to have backports in sources anymore :P
[02:22] <plagerism> Is it just me or is everyone having problems with latest update of kernel/fglrx drivers??
[02:22] <nalioth> lightbright: backports are good, if you know exactly the program you want
[02:22] <Mabus06> how do I set up a network game in freeciv?
[02:23] <lightbright> robotgeek: I also typed: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:23] <lightbright>  and it seems to be back again
[02:23] <cin_> Um, stupid question, but how do I login as root? sudo root or something?
[02:23] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell cin_ about sudo
[02:23] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: um what is the command to extract something?? ^^;
[02:23] <lightbright> nalioth: yeah, but xchat I didnt want!  its been changed and a lot of right click features taken out!  so I went back from 2.6.0 to 2.4.4
[02:23] <bitnet> one more please, is there a way or a possibility for my Ubuntu desktop to make use of my Canon Multipass F60 printer and scanner, it has been 3 months now since i totally left Windows that this resource becomes non-performing
[02:24] <nalioth> lightbright: yes, it's not a good ideas to have bp enabled for general use
[02:24] <lightbright> nalioth: I also typed: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:24] <lightbright> nalioth: I know that now ;)
[02:24] <lightbright> nalioth:  like you said, only if after a partciluar program
[02:24] <Akonkwa> When I boot my computer, gnome and x won't start. Itried startx but it doesn't work. I looked into /var/log/Xorg/.0.log and found "fatal error, could not open font 'fixed' "
[02:25] <Akonkwa> Can anyone help?
[02:25] <luisito> hello
[02:25] <purplefeltangel> how do i extract a .zip file? :/
[02:25] <redguy> bitnet: try looking in linuxprinting.org
[02:25] <lightbright> robotgeek: I typed: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop , was that ok to do now?
[02:26] <robotgeek> lightbright: it will install back xchat, but it was alright
[02:26] <SoulPropagation> purplefeltangel: unzip
[02:27] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, unzip file
[02:27] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: now that its unzipped what do i do with it?
[02:27] <lisa_> hi
[02:27] <Akonkwa> anybody? please?  Can anyone help me? i'm helpless without my gui...
[02:27] <djm62> Akonkwa: have you uninstalled anything forcefully or changed config?
[02:27] <bitnet> Ubuntu is so cool ... trillion thanks to the philanthropic humanoid who propagated this
[02:27] <djm62> Akonkwa: you're never helpless
[02:27] <lisa_> exit
[02:27] <Akonkwa> djm62: I've intalled kino, that's all
[02:28] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, install dosbox (a x86 dos emulator)
[02:28] <djm62> Akonkwa: do you have a console command line?
[02:28] <Akonkwa> djm62: yes, I do
[02:28] <Akonkwa> djm62,  but rihgt now i'm running a live session
[02:28] <djm62> Akonkwa: can you do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[02:28] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: but what do i do with the unzipped program files and whatever... where should i put it so that its not running from my Home folder?
[02:28] <cin_> ty robotgeek, got it...I forgot how, I need to get a book to learn my way through bash
[02:29] <Akonkwa> djm62,  i tried that, but it said "no such command"
[02:29] <djm62> (!)
[02:30] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, for now keep them there
[02:30] <Akonkwa> djm62: I shall try again
[02:30] <djm62> Akonkwa: is your system a normal breezy install?
[02:30] <dbyte> anyone know how to speed up dvd playback?
[02:30] <dbyte> i finally got it working, but its kinda choppy
[02:30] <mahangu> does ubuntu work with a standard pcmia GPRS card?
[02:30] <djm62> (or hoary, or anything else normal)
[02:30] <djm62> mahangu: there's a standard?
[02:30] <bitnet> exit
[02:30] <Akonkwa> djm62: it's a hoary install
[02:30] <lightbright> robotgeek: I installed xchat back but not from backports and xchat works great again :)  and then I typed: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop!  was that ok?  nothing would have broken now when I reboot would it?
[02:30] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: ok :/ but when does "for now' end
[02:31] <robotgeek> lightbright: nope, nothing to worry
[02:31] <lightbright> robotgeek: fantastic :) ty
[02:31] <djm62> dbyte: is dma turned on? try using hdparm -d 1 /dev/whatever to do so
[02:31] <cin_> Now, I accessed root and went into cd / now the installation needs me to use gunzip. I tried just typing gunzip and it said "gunzip data not found on terminal" what now? Kinda stumped
[02:31] <Akonkwa> djm62,  I'll try the command you gave me, be back in a few minutes
[02:31] <lightbright> cin_: apt-get install unzip ?
[02:31] <cin_> lemme try
[02:31] <lightbright> cin_: ok
[02:32] <djm62> (btw, where is the non-hacky place to put that hdparm setting for boot?)
[02:32] <cin_> Woo! TY
[02:32] <lightbright> cin_: fantastic :)
[02:32] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: how do you work DOSbox?
[02:32] <lightbright> djm62: non-hacky place? hehe
[02:32] <mahangu> djm62, i think so
[02:33] <erUSUL> run it from a terminal
[02:33] <djm62> lightbright: hacky in the benign derogatory sense
[02:33] <lightbright> djm62: cute :P
[02:33] <lightbright> djm62: btw, its hdparm -d1 /dev/whatever , not hdparm -d 1 /dev/whatever :)
[02:34] <erUSUL> purplefeltangel, Aplications->Accesories>terminal
[02:34] <dbyte> Djm62 yup its on
[02:34] <cin_> Alright, stumped again. I'm trying to install AIM, if anyone can tell me what do I do at step 4? http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp#install2
[02:34] <djm62> lightbright: it's either
[02:34] <lightbright> djm62: I didnt know that, thanks :)
[02:35] <lightbright> cin_: is AIM similar to Gaim?
[02:35] <djm62> cin_: are you sure you want to install that /ancient/ version of AIM?
[02:35] <cin_> o.O Yep, and I guess.
[02:35] <atrophic> cin_, Gaim will get you on aim, and it comes preinstalled
[02:35] <nalioth> lightbright: gaim started out as an aim client
[02:36] <cin_> Oh woops, i forgot it had GAIM >.<
[02:36] <lightbright> nalioth: ah ok! so why would he want to use Aim I wonder
[02:36] <lightbright> cin_:  hehe ;)
[02:36] <mahangu> djm62, any idea?
[02:36] <djm62> mahangu: some gprs cards work
[02:36] <cin_> Does anyone know where I can get a partitioner?
[02:36] <nalioth> lightbright: some folks are unfamiliar with all that linux offers
[02:36] <dbyte> lightbright: any idea on how to speed up playback?
[02:36] <nalioth> cin_: there is one on both the live and install cds
[02:37] <djm62> mahangu: mine very nearly works, but needs proprietary software to send a magic enablement code
[02:37] <cin_> where?
[02:37] <lightbright> dbyte: yes hdparm -d1
[02:37] <nalioth> cin_: which cd are we talking? live or install?
[02:37] <dbyte> lightbright, already done, any other ideas? :)
[02:37] <lightbright> dbyte: you mean playback from DVD?
[02:37] <purplefeltangel> erUSUL: well, yes. i have dosbox running already; how do i run my program
[02:37] <lightbright> dbyte: you mean playback from DVD or hard drive?
[02:37] <djm62> dbyte: the other thing is use accelerated video display
[02:37] <cin_> install. I already installed it but need a partitioner for somethin else.
[02:37] <lightbright> nalioth: yes I know
[02:38] <lightbright> cin_: cfdisk
[02:38] <Skullb0x> I've downloaded some .rar files, whats a good program to extract the .iso from the rar files in ubuntu
[02:38] <djm62> unrar?
[02:38] <dbyte> djm62:  glxinfo says DRI is enabled
[02:38] <nalioth> cin_: start the installer and hit ctrl-alt-f1 and type "parted"
[02:38] <dbyte> lightbright: from DVD
[02:38] <djm62> dbyte: but is your video player using that?
[02:38] <Skullb0x> is there any graphical app to unrar?
[02:38] <dbyte> djm62: not sure
[02:38] <nalioth> Skullb0x: sure. file-roller, ark, and on and on
[02:38] <lightbright> dbyte: yes get a faster dvd player! :)  btw, so what I stepped you through earlier, it works now?  your dvd is playing now?
[02:39] <nalioth> Skullb0x: it's built into nautilus (if you have unrar-nonfree or unrar-free installed)
[02:39] <djm62> nalioth: does nautilus handle select-all un whatever
[02:39] <dbyte> lightbright: no, i just started from scratch
[02:39] <lightbright> dbyte: I thought you told me you cant play DVD
[02:39] <mahangu> djm62, proprietry but free download?
[02:39] <lightbright> dbyte: what did you do different?
[02:39] <cin_> o.O i'll just pass...I have Windows and Ubuntu on this system(windows is my dads) so grub is already installed so what if I put in my Debian installer disc, would it detect grub and just add it to the list?
[02:39] <dbyte> lightbright: nothing significant
[02:39] <nalioth> djm62: it should, but depends on the rar
[02:39] <lightbright> dbyte: what steps did you follow this time?
[02:39] <djm62> mahangu: I bought the card, plus windows drivers
[02:39] <dbyte> lightbright: i think the only thing i really did different was not try to play a DVD until i installed a ton of stuff
[02:40] <dbyte> lightbright: something got horked up last time I guess
[02:40] <mahangu> djm62, it's a pcmia card - globetrotter COMBO EDGE
[02:40] <djm62> mahangu: the card itself works ok...I'll get someone to enable it at some point, but it was a "free with" purchase
[02:40] <lightbright> dbyte: what steps did you follow this time?  did you use the steps I gave you, or a differtent method?
[02:40] <dbyte> lightbright: i just went to wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and did all the stuff there
[02:40] <lightbright> dbyte: one by one?
[02:41] <dbyte> lightbright: not really
[02:41] <mahangu> djm62, that is your card?
[02:41] <lightbright> dbyte: did you use this:  sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine
[02:41] <djm62> mahangu: nope...best you can do for that in particular is google it
[02:41] <dbyte> lightbright: i installed all the gstreamer junk, the libdvdcss through the script, and flash
[02:41] <lightbright> dbyte: how did you install all the gstreamer stuff? 1 by one, or the command I gave?
[02:42] <dbyte> lightbright: then it worked fine, so I went and got libdvdcss 1.2.9 to see if it would help speed it up any
[02:42] <mahangu> djm62, mind linking me to your one?
[02:42] <dbyte> lightbright: no, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats has a cut n paste command for it
[02:43] <dbyte> lightbright: dvd playback through xine was working perfect until I started this reinstall...my previous install had been on my laptop for almost 2 years
[02:43] <dbyte> djm62: what video out should I use?
[02:43] <lightbright> nalioth: what was your message?  i didnt see it properly?
[02:44] <djm62> dbyte: depends on your system I think, GL is accelerated
[02:45] <lightbright> nalioth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  tells to install ALL those plugins
[02:45] <nalioth> lightbright: gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse install most (if not all) the gstreamer plugins
[02:45] <djm62> mahangu: http://www.pharscape.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=4&Itemid=53
[02:45] <djm62> mahangu: looks like you're out of luck, the combo has a proprietary interface (hence not a "standard" card)
[02:46] <lightbright> nalioth: what do you mean?  i dont understand
[02:46] <nalioth> lightbright: why type out all that gstreamer-this and gstreamer-that ?
[02:46] <lightbright> nalioth: thats from a website I followed
[02:46] <djm62> lightbright: metapackages again...all they are is dependencies on the /real/ plugins
[02:47] <lightbright> nalioth: whats the short comand then I need?
[02:47] <mahangu> djm62, have you ever tried hooking a GPRS phone up to your IR port?
[02:47] <dbyte> djm62: any idea why it wouldnt let me do fullscreen with opengl?
[02:47] <djm62> dbyte: nope...
[02:47] <nalioth> lightbright: if you install gstreamer0.8-plugins and  gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse, you'll have all you need
[02:47] <lightbright> nalioth: you mean all I need to type instead is:  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[02:47] <lightbright>   ?
[02:47] <cin_> How do you install GDM themes? I have one thats a tar so do I untar it then stick in usr/share/gdm/themes/~then put it there?
[02:47] <nalioth> i believe the -ffmpeg is redundant, lightbright
[02:48] <djm62> mahangu: nope, never used GPRS, all kinds of poorly-documented bits, ran out of patience
[02:48] <wickedpuppy> lightbright, you know how to use synaptic ?? instead of figuring out what to type just search there ...
[02:48] <lightbright> nalioth: ah ok! i understand , thanks!  So instead of that long command, all I need to type is: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[02:48] <lightbright> ?
[02:48] <Akonkwa> djm62: I'm back. I tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" Went through the prompts and when it was over I tried startx and it still didn't work. What should I do?
[02:49] <lightbright> nalioth: instead of:  sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine
[02:49] <nalioth> lightbright: i think you are wasting your typeing with the -ffmpeg entry
[02:49] <djm62> Akonkwa: same error?
[02:49] <Akonkwa> djm62: same error :s
[02:49] <lightbright> nalioth: so what do you say is all thats needed then?
[02:49] <nalioth> lightbright: -plugins and -plugins-multiverse
[02:49] <lightbright> nalioth: this website said all that is needed: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[02:49] <cin_> Gah!
[02:50] <nalioth> lightbright: no animals are harmed by installing more gstreamer plugins than are on that page
[02:50] <lightbright> nalioth: so whats the command?  apt-get install  -plugins -plugins-multiverse ?
[02:50] <Akonkwa> djm62: any ideas?
[02:51] <dbyte> AHA
[02:51] <nalioth> lightbright: i'm sorry. i dont like typing out gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse each time i send text, we are on the gstreamer subject and i thought that just referring to -plugins and -plugins-multiverse would make sens
[02:51] <dbyte> got it
[02:51] <djm62> Akonkwa: I don't know what would have happened: maybe aptitude install xfonts-base
[02:52] <dbyte> djm62: sdl couldnt do fullscreen, opengl was slow as molasses, xv works great :)
[02:52] <Akonkwa> djm62: so I should run the command "sudo aptitude install xfonts-base"?
[02:52] <djm62> Akonkwa: yeah, but all these things should be there anyway
[02:53] <lightbright> nalioth: but how would that command also install mjpegtools and totem-xine?
[02:53] <candlelight> is there a doc that describe the command line equivalent to each of the menu option in synaptic package manager?
[02:53] <djm62> Akonkwa: I don't see why your X should be broken
[02:53] <wickedpuppy> candlelight, man apt-get
[02:53] <chms> anyone know why services-admin was changed?
[02:53] <Akonkwa> djm62: is there a way for me to reinstall ubuntu wothout losing what was on the partition?
[02:53] <djm62> Akonkwa: how much data do you have?
[02:53] <nalioth> lightbright: i was only remarking that instead of typing all those individual gstreamer pkgs into the command, 2 gstreamer pkgs would cover all that are needed, you will still need to install xine, and the other things
[02:54] <Akonkwa> djm62 : maybe 1Gb
[02:54] <drdss> Can I stream .pls files from www.shoutcast.com?  like winamp?
[02:54] <nalioth> drdss: of course you can
[02:54] <drdss> nalioth, what prog pls
[02:54] <wickedpuppy> Akonkwa, if you have all those on /home partition then ya ... just reinstall / partition and mount /home again
[02:54] <djm62> Akonkwa: in /home  ?
[02:54] <lightbright> nalioth: ok gotit, thanks :)
[02:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell drdss about multimedia
[02:55] <drdss> nalioth, www.shoutcast.com bassdrive jungletrain pls
[02:55] <Akonkwa> djm62,: it's all in home
[02:55] <drdss> nalioth, .pls opens in rythmbox by default, does not play.  save to file and open in xmms, does not work freezes
[02:55] <lightbright> nalioth: so all I need type is:  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg    and then  sudo apt-get install faad sox mjpegtools ffmpeg totem-xine ?
[02:56] <lightbright> nalioth: is that all thats neeeded then?
[02:56] <nalioth> lightbright: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[02:56] <Akonkwa> djm62: do you know how I can reinstall ubuntu without erasing /home?
[02:56] <djm62> Akonkwa: not offhand
[02:56] <lightbright> Akonkwa: did you install /home on seperate partition?
[02:56] <Akonkwa> lightbright,  : no
[02:57] <lightbright> Akonkwa: now you know why its a good idea
[02:57] <Akonkwa> lightbright: I mean i'm not sure, I just followed the installtion. does that mean I did not?
[02:57] <drdss> Akonkwa: make a separate /home partition, copy /home to it, then u can reinstall with the cd over the rest
[02:58] <candlelight> wickedpuppy, thanks
[02:58] <gar-> why there some program or management tools that wound load when tu run it for example the login screen setup i want to access i start but dont open close fast
[02:58] <lightbright> Akonkwa: it wont create it unless you told it to
[02:58] <gar-> robotgeek,  are u there
[02:58] <robotgeek> gar-: yes
[02:58] <Akonkwa> drdss: How can I make a separate partition using the terminal?
[02:58] <gar-> robotgeek, i have one new peoblem with alot of aplications
[02:58] <robotgeek> gar-: what?
[02:58] <drdss> Akonkwa, type df -ah to see the partitions... maybe you have /homt
[02:59] <gar-> robotgeek, when i try to start some program it wound load i start i can see the tab but close fast what that can be?
[02:59] <robotgeek> gar-: any program?
[02:59] <Akonkwa> drss: I'm a beginner so I don't quite understand what you meant... ???
[03:00] <drdss> Seriously now what program for .pls from www.shoutcast.com, rythmbox, xmms, gstreamer do not work
[03:00] <robotgeek> gar-: your errors should mostly logged be in ~/.xsession-errors
[03:00] <purplefeltangel> hey, does anyone in here know the name of that program that partitions ntfs?
[03:00] <gar-> robotgeek, look i try to open login screen setup from System Menu ask me for pass i put it but notting happen it wound't open
[03:00] <Akonkwa> drss  : I should first type " df -ah" and then ?
[03:00] <robotgeek> drdss: do you have the codecs
[03:00] <drdss> Akonkwa, check out "man fdisk" and if you don't understand that, don't mess iwth your partitionz
[03:00] <scanwinder> im getting a  dependency problem  with apt in ubuntu breezy with libgtk2.0-dev depending on libpango1.0-dev, libcairo2-dev and libxcursor-dev . and none of those 3 packages will install......anyone know howto resolve this? do i need to change my repositories?
[03:00] <drdss> robotgeek, hwich codecs please
[03:00] <robotgeek> drdss: mp3
[03:01] <Akonkwa> drdss: Okay thanx
[03:01] <drdss> robotgeek, seriously apt-get or synaptic tell me
[03:01] <Akonkwa> drdss: just one more thing, how do I copy a file in the terminal?
[03:01] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell drdss about mp3
[03:01] <robotgeek> gar-: moment
[03:02] <djm62> Akonkwa: cp oldfilename /new/file/location/newname
[03:02] <gar-> robotgeek, ok let me know how to check for the errors
[03:02] <drdss> robotgeek, seriously it's free... http://www.shoutcast.com  it's not restricted I want to play
[03:02] <djm62> Akonkwa: the command is cp.  cp oldfile newfile
[03:02] <robotgeek> drdss: mp3 is, you need a decoder
[03:02] <gar-> drdss, what u try to do with shoutcast? i know alot about it
[03:02] <Akonkwa> DjaFollah, : thanx
[03:03] <drdss> gar-, I want to play it
[03:03] <Akonkwa> djm62,  thanx
[03:03] <DjaFollah> Akonkwa, de nada
[03:03] <DjaFollah> ;)
[03:03] <Akonkwa> DjaFollah,  lol
[03:03] <drdss> gar-, I want to associate the correct player with http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=5932&file=filename.pls
[03:03] <gar-> drdss,  you need a decoder fist mp3 decoder install xmms or mplayer it will download the decoders
[03:03] <drdss> gar-, rythmbox xmms and gstreamre dont wokr
[03:03] <Akonkwa> i meant djm62
[03:03] <robotgeek> gar-: type in a terminal 'sudo gdmsetup'
[03:04] <crazymill> hey
[03:04] <robotgeek> drdss: enable universe, multiverse. then 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg'
[03:04] <Jaymill> I need some help with an install
[03:04] <gar-> robotgeek, Could not access GDM configuration file.
[03:04] <Jaymill> for a complete linux newbie
[03:04] <robotgeek> gar-: you are using gnome, right?
[03:04] <gar-> robotgeek, nope lol kubuntu
[03:04] <liable> xmms can do strems, just click on the stream and wammo
[03:04] <jsherring> hi....i'm having trouble playing videos from cnn.com
[03:05] <drdss> gar-, I have plugins and ffmpeg but the multi is not in synaptic... lemme enable
[03:05] <robotgeek> gar-: hmm, one sec
[03:05] <gar-> drdss,  what u try to do stream file over net or just listen to it?
[03:05] <Jaymill> hey, can anyone help me with an install?
[03:05] <drdss> gar-, streammmmm
[03:05] <drdss> gar-, streammmmm http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=5932&file=filename.pls
[03:05] <Madpilot> Jaymill: installing what?
[03:05] <Mabus06> can ANYONE help me to start a freeciv game that friends can connect to?
[03:06] <gar-> drdss,  use the shoutcast supositorius it will automatic stream from the fordel
[03:06] <Jaymill> ubuntu
[03:06] <Jaymill> itself
[03:06] <Jaymill> complete newbie
[03:06] <Jaymill> :)
[03:06] <robotgeek> gar-: i am not sure, ask in #kubuntu too
[03:06] <Madpilot> Jaymill: dual boot w/ Win, or by itself on a computer?
[03:06] <gar-> robotgeek, ok
[03:06] <Jaymill> by itself
[03:06] <Jaymill> having trouble from the bat
[03:06] <Jaymill> with the iso image
[03:06] <gar-> robotgeek, but the same problem is on gnome to
[03:06] <jsherring> firefox crashes with a "Segmentation Fault" if i use mozilla-totem (xine), and it's choppy if i use mozilla-mplayer
[03:06] <Madpilot> Jaymill: you need to burn the ISO to CD, then install from the CD
[03:06] <drdss> liable, no it just freezes seriously click http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=5932&file=filename.pls
[03:07] <Jaymill> I can't boot from the CD
[03:07] <Jaymill> it won't let me
[03:07] <drdss> gar-, how do i use the shotucast positories
[03:07] <djm62> Jaymill: you need to enable booting from CD in your BIOS
[03:07] <Jaymill> try telling it to boot from CD during boot, but it goes to windows anyway
[03:07] <Jaymill> already dome
[03:07] <Jaymill> done*
[03:07] <Madpilot> Jaymill: double check your BIOS settings
[03:07] <Jaymill> ok
[03:07] <robotgeek> gar-: you are trying to configure the login screen in kde (basically kdm). i hope you did not enable the root user
[03:07] <cin_> Does anyone know how to change a file into a tar?
[03:07] <DRAGON_Ultra> you may have a bad burn
[03:07] <drdss> Jaymill, take your id out of the bios startup
[03:08] <Jaymill> ?
[03:08] <Jaymill> that last one confused me
[03:08] <gar-> robotgeek, im no stupid i dont use root lol
[03:08] <gar-> robotgeek, is no only login screen is alot of appls
[03:08] <Madpilot> Jaymill: I think he meant to remove your hard drive from the boot sequence
[03:08] <robotgeek> gar-: any application just crashes?
[03:08] <Madpilot> so that it's forced to boot from the CD
[03:08] <liable> drdss: dud link, mplayer doesnt like it either.
[03:08] <djm62> Jaymill: have you burnt the ubuntu image correctly? if so, make sure that your computer checks for CD boot first (before HD)
[03:09] <gar-> robotgeek, alot of the they crash they dont even start i see the tab after that nutting
[03:09] <Jaymill> doing that now
[03:09] <Jaymill> ok
[03:09] <drdss> liable, please try any link at http://www.shoutcast.com send me
[03:09] <Jaymill> ok, trying again
[03:09] <Jaymill> hey, it worked
[03:09] <Jaymill> :)
[03:09] <Corrupter> whats a good CD burning program?
[03:09] <Madpilot> Corrupter: in Ubuntu?
[03:10] <djm62> Corrupter: nautilus will burn .iso and data CDs
[03:10] <gar-> Corrupter, i think toast dont know if suported by ubuntu
[03:10] <liable> drdss: the first one worked
[03:10] <djm62> Corrupter: (nautilus, the standard gnome file manager)
[03:10] <Jaymill> thanks guys
[03:10] <djm62> Corrupter: otherwise, gnome-baker
[03:10] <Jaymill> should be good from here
[03:10] <robotgeek> gar-: i am not quite sure what's causing the issue, check 'gedit ~/.xsession-errors'
[03:10] <threeseas> Jaymill: consider not using LVM
[03:10] <drdss> liable, cmon ill go to pastbin copy it to me cmon
[03:11] <drdss> liable, what program
[03:11] <Jaymill> LVM?
[03:11] <Madpilot> Corrupter: in Ubuntu, Nautilus does nicely, K3B also, and Serpentine for music CDs
[03:11] <gar-> robotgeek, i canot open that
[03:11] <Corrupter> alright
[03:11] <liable> drdss: worked in xmms
[03:11] <threeseas> Linux volume manager
[03:11] <Elsan> Is there any way to have more than ONE application use the sound device? This and the refresh rate are like my only problems with Ubuntu.
[03:11] <liable> drdss: http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=3281&file=filename.pls
[03:11] <Jaymill> installing over windows
[03:11] <robotgeek> gar-: hmm, i dunno
[03:11] <Jaymill> going to reformat
[03:11] <gar-> robotgeek, now is open let me see
[03:11] <robotgeek> gar-: kk
[03:12] <threeseas> JayMill: it will promot you at one point with the default setting to use LVM
[03:12] <Madpilot> Jaymill: are you just reformatting your entire HD to install Ubuntu?
[03:12] <walde> hmm, just playing around with luks, but there is one thing I dont understand. Does cryptdisk use automatically lukfs when reading the crypttab with option 'none'? Or do I have to enter all encryptionoptions manually?
[03:12] <navarone> Madpilot> I put balnk cd-r in and it mounts and asks me what I want to burn...after choosing and selecting file(s) it goes about it's business and i don't know if it's gnomebaker or whatever doing the actual burning. I'm just happy it works so seamlessly...<s>
[03:12] <Jaymill> yes
[03:13] <drdss> liable, it only wants to go in rythmbox and it doesnt work
[03:13] <kapputu> does Ubuntu support plug and play (pray)?
[03:13] <kapputu> I put in a wireless card. Is it supposed to detect it?
[03:13] <robotgeek> kapputu: it's called hotplugging, yes
[03:13] <djm62> kapputu: pcmcia? yes it should do
[03:13] <kapputu> ok it didn't
[03:13] <kapputu> or atleast I don't know if it did
[03:13] <scanwinder> im getting a  dependency problem  with apt in ubuntu breezy with libgtk2.0-dev depending on libpango1.0-dev, libcairo2-dev and libxcursor-dev . and none of those 3 packages will install......anyone know howto resolve this? do i need to change my repositories?
[03:13] <threeseas> by using LVM its much harder to recover or access your stuff should something happen down the road... by not using LVM you can access the data via a knoppix or even a ubuntu live CD
[03:13] <drdss> liable, xmms just freezes ///
[03:13] <djm62> kapputu: didn't detect it, or didn't configure it?
[03:13] <liable> drdss: try putting the address in xmms manually
[03:14] <liable> drdss: hrm
[03:14] <robotgeek> kapputu: 'dmesg | less' would help. so does 'lspci | less'
[03:14] <coldrain> hh
[03:14] <robotgeek> kapputu: or lshw
[03:14] <djm62> kapputu: after you insert it, dmesg
[03:14] <liable> drdss: you have mplayer?
[03:14] <drdss> liable, i tried copy link location, and i tried saving to a file... it doesnt like it.  and it tries rythmbox
[03:14] <DRAGON_Ultra> ubuntu live cd works great here
[03:14] <gar-> robotgeek, i dont see notting on it like look like a error
[03:14] <djm62> if only ubuntu had google earth :(
[03:14] <coldrain>
[03:14] <robotgeek> gar-: i am not sure why every app just closes down.
[03:15] <threeseas> JayMill: the advantage of using LVM is that it automaticall resizes partitions, etc... as needed.... but for a single user... such advantage is outweighted
[03:15] <drdss> liable, installing 1 of 12 mplayer
[03:15] <ignashoo> newbie here... i need help with the installing it...
[03:15] <gar-> robotgeek, found one
[03:15] <gar-> (gdmsetup:9401): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[03:15] <gar-> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[03:15] <gar-> Could not access GDM configuration file.
[03:15] <purplefeltangel> SUPERUSER!
[03:15] <coldrain>
[03:15] <navarone> djm62>try earth3d
[03:15] <kapputu> what am I looking for after I type dmesg?
[03:15] <purplefeltangel> coldrain: no chinese, sorry
[03:15] <djm62> navarone: ooh, cheers
[03:15] <coldrain> who is chinese
[03:15] <navarone> djm62>it is not as develeoped as google earth...but nice
[03:16] <purplefeltangel> coldrain: try #ubuntu-zh
[03:16] <djm62> coldrain: this is an english-speaking room
[03:17] <threeseas> ignashoo: installing ubuntu in what way?
[03:17] <sethk> djm62, sljer 3;oire aljl;jd
[03:17] <threeseas> ignashoo: by itself only or dual boot
[03:17] <gar-> robotgeek, i just put my new nvidia 2 go driver is look awersome also videos and games run smooth =)
[03:17] <coldrain> Thank you
[03:17] <luisito> how can I set an icon for the trash on the desktop?? please..
[03:18] <jsherring> can anyone help me with a crashing mozilla when playing videos?
[03:19] <purplefeltangel> where is the help topic for macromedia flash?
[03:19] <lightbright> how can I install a reliable and good download manager for Firefox please?
[03:19] <robotgeek> gar-: i'm ppc only. :)
[03:19] <gar-> robotgeek, ppc?
[03:19] <robotgeek> gar-: powerpc, apple
[03:20] <gar-> robotgeek, what is that?
[03:20] <milksteak> jsherring, what you using to play the videos?
[03:20] <lightbright> any help?
[03:20] <Jaymill> threeseas: so I should NOT use LVM correct?
[03:20] <gar-> robotgeek, ah lol u not using a pentium machine?
[03:20] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell lightbright about DownloadManager
[03:20] <lightbright> robotgeek: I didnt get any message
[03:20] <milksteak> lightbright, I just use wget
[03:20] <sethk> Jaymill, you should only use LVM if the complexity of LVM is justified.  It rarely is.
[03:20] <robotgeek> lightbright: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DownloadManager
[03:20] <djm62> navarone: what's a detailed map to scan on earth3d? (that is damn cool btw, thanks)
[03:20] <threeseas> Jaymill: in my humble opinion and recent ecperience - I'd been better off without it
[03:20] <lightbright> milksteak: how you integrerate into firefox?
[03:20] <Madpilot> !tell purplefeltangel about flash
[03:20] <Jaymill> ok thank you
[03:21] <milksteak> hah
[03:21] <robotgeek> lightbright: that integrates with wget
[03:21] <milksteak> lightbright, I don't
[03:21] <milksteak> well
[03:21] <gar-> robotgeek, there is aprogram that emulate windows programs right?
[03:21] <jsherring> milksteak, firefox segfaults when i use mozilla-totem
[03:21] <drdss> gar-, liable nalioth, system test of the soundcard working?
[03:21] <robotgeek> gar-: wine
[03:21] <lightbright> robotgeek: thanks
[03:21] <milksteak> jsherring, tried the mplayer plugin?
[03:21] <gar-> robotgeek, it is work with ubuntu?
[03:22] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell gar- about wine
[03:22] <navarone> djm62> I have only played around a bit. From what i gather you choose a map and then apply the markers and such for cities and points of interest. But like I said I have not played with it much so maybe take a look on google or forums
[03:22] <jsherring> yes, it plays, but it's very choppy
[03:22] <milksteak> jsherring, link me to the video you're trying to play
[03:22] <jsherring> milksteak, and i'm pretty sure it's not a bandwidth issue, tho i can't say for sure
[03:22] <Jaymill> robotgeek: what is this obotu thing you keep saying lol
[03:22] <jsherring> milksteak, okay, just a sec
[03:22] <Jaymill> robotgeek: is it an irc bot or something?
[03:23] <navarone> Jay>yes
[03:23] <robotgeek> Jaymill: yes
[03:23] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Jaymill about ubotu
[03:23] <Jaymill> robotgeek: pretty sweet
[03:23] <theacolyte> I just installed 5.10 on a new machine, and it boots fine up til it gets to the graphical login, where if I press the session button it crashes (hard locks, can't switch screens,etc) and when I log on sucessfully it just sits there with the brown background indefinately, I can still use the mouse.
[03:24] <lightbright> robotgeek:i installed it but it is not available in firefox!  any ideas
[03:24] <robotgeek> lightbright: there's an extension also, restart firefox after you install it
[03:24] <jsherring> milksteak, the address is http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/politics/2005/11/25/schneider.political.leftovers.affl
[03:24] <purplefeltangel> sometimes in flash the video freezes, and sound never plays.... i have tried the fixes listed on the wiki for tshi but it does not work; any help?
[03:25] <lightbright> robotgeek: I did restart but gwget is not available
[03:25] <luisito> how can I set an icon for the trash on the desktop?? please..
[03:25] <lightbright> does anyone know how to get Firefox to see and use gwget?
[03:25] <robotgeek> lightbright: did you install the firefox extension? fireget or something, from the same site
[03:26] <talios> lightbright, theres an extension for firefox on the gwget site, but its not triggering the extension installer for some reason ( wrong mime type on the server ) - you'll have to download and install it manually
[03:26] <lightbright> talios: ah ok
[03:26] <lightbright> robotgeek: thanks for your help
[03:26] <robotgeek> lightbright: np
[03:27] <threeseas> oops! deleted my trashcan in trying to disconnect it from the bottom bar
[03:27] <threeseas> how do I get it back
[03:27] <threeseas> ?
[03:27] <purplefeltangel> luisito: go to applications> system tools> configuration editor and go to /apps/nautilus/general
[03:28] <Fujitsu> !info
[03:28] <purplefeltangel> luisito: er, sorry, /apps/nautilus/desktop
[03:28] <luisito> purplefeltangel, ;) thank you !
[03:28] <nasimuto> Where can i add a command that would be executed in startup ?
[03:28] <purplefeltangel> luisito: no problem
[03:30] <bereaved1> purplefelt: is there any way to do that from the shell?
[03:30] <_classic> how do i burn a hybrid/enhanced dvd containing a movie and a folder with docs?
[03:32] <jay> any ideas why rhythmbox displays only 1 mp3 from my ipod when i have WAAAAYYY more
[03:32] <mrkoje> does anyone know of a good iax2 softphone for linux?
[03:32] <lightbright> how come some ISO gnomebaker or k3b doesnt read as an ISO?  Only ms windows and Nero does!  How come?
[03:32] <jonathon> hello
[03:32] <purplefeltangel> ok, ubuntuwiki says, "to get firefox to open a new tab when you click a link edit such and such file", but the file is read-only....how do i change this?
[03:32] <lightbright> when I burn a DVD or CD-RW, should I chose Joliet and Rock Ridge, or just Rock Ridge?
[03:33] <theacolyte> I just installed 5.10 on a new machine, and it boots fine up til it gets to the graphical login, where if I press the session button it crashes (hard locks, can't switch screens,etc) and when I log on sucessfully it just sits there with the brown background indefinately, I can still use the mouse. I can't force GDM to quit.
[03:33] <jonathon> there is a program which converts debs into apt its something like cleaninstall makeinstall or something anyone know what its called
[03:33] <lightbright> theacolyte: check your memory
[03:33] <lightbright> theacolyte: then check your hard drive
[03:33] <theacolyte> It boots fine in single user mode
[03:34] <theacolyte> And I previously had CentOS on this box, wanted to try Ubuntu out
[03:34] <lightbright> jonathon: alien
[03:34] <lightbright> theacolyte: I used CenOS and no more :P
[03:34] <theacolyte> The way that it looks I'll be going back, just wanted to give it a try
[03:34] <nalioth> theacolyte: how old or new is the machine?
[03:34] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: when I burn a DVD or CD-RW, should I chose Joliet and Rock Ridge, or just Rock Ridge?
[03:35] <theacolyte> It's a p4 3 ghz 1gb ram
[03:35] <theacolyte> sata drives
[03:35] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: what????
[03:35] <liable> theacolyte: try switching to vt1 and stopping gdm
[03:35] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: Ill repeat!  when I burn a DVD or CD-RW, should I chose Joliet and Rock Ridge, or just Rock Ridge?
[03:35] <theacolyte> I can't even switch to vt1 =/
[03:35] <nalioth> liable: his machine freezes, no switching possible
[03:35] <nalioth> theacolyte: is it using new new new technologies?
[03:35] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: uhhh........... i don't know.....i've never burned a DVD or CD-RW on ubuntu.... :/
[03:35] <liable> bugger.. do it before you log in..
[03:35] <Fujitsu> Can the machine be pinged from a remote machine?
[03:35] <theacolyte> No, regular ddr400 and socket 478
[03:36] <jonathon> lightbright: i dont think thats what im after
[03:36] <theacolyte> It's got a wireless adapater that I haven't set up quite yet
[03:36] <Fujitsu> Ahh.
[03:37] <lightbright> jonathon: ok
[03:37] <lightbright> jonathon: theres no such thing as deb to apt-get
[03:37] <jonathon> lightbright: the program that im after works at the time u compile
[03:37] <jonathon> hello
[03:38] <_classic> how do i burn a hybrid/enhanced dvd containing a movie and a folder with docs?
[03:38] <opnsrc> how do i change my root  password
[03:38] <opnsrc> sudo pw
[03:38] <opnsrc> ?
[03:38] <ZeZu> a question i have gone over many times, what is the best portable GUI library ?
[03:38] <lightbright> opnsrc: its same as username
[03:39] <opnsrc> ???
[03:39] <opnsrc> I don't know how to change username either
[03:39] <Madpilot> !tell opnsrc about root
[03:39] <opnsrc> still new to linux
[03:39] <opnsrc> No I have Root enabled
[03:39] <ZeZu> anyone have suggestions ?
[03:39] <opnsrc> I figured it out
[03:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell opnsrc about root
[03:39] <opnsrc> the pw is currently the same as my login pw
[03:39] <nalioth> opnsrc: root is not necessary
[03:39] <robotgeek> opnsrc: how did you enable root?
[03:39] <opnsrc> but I just want to change it
[03:39] <purplefeltangel> how do i change a file from read-only?
[03:39] <opnsrc> I forgot
[03:39] <opnsrc> just set a pw
[03:39] <opnsrc> but now it works
[03:39] <opnsrc> I can login as root
[03:39] <robotgeek> opnsrc: sudo != root
[03:40] <opnsrc> No
[03:40] <opnsrc> I mean, literally, I can login as root
[03:40] <opnsrc> root
[03:40] <varsendagger> if one gets banned form a channel waht can they do?
[03:40] <opnsrc> a root GUI
[03:40] <sethk> opnsrc, me too
[03:40] <robotgeek> opnsrc: as a root user
[03:40] <Madpilot> opnsrc: you don't need root, and none of the graphical utils will work w/ root in Ubuntu...
[03:40] <opnsrc> Yeah
[03:40] <sethk> varsendagger, cry?
[03:40] <opnsrc> I know
[03:40] <opnsrc> Well I use it for setting stuff
[03:40] <lightbright> opnsrc: you are new to Linux?
[03:40] <opnsrc> Like settings
[03:40] <jonathon> Anyone know the program that converts ur debs into apt files for easy management its called something like cleaninstall anyone know it
[03:40] <opnsrc> Yeah, kinda
[03:40] <liable> varsendagger: apoligise and ask to be unbanned/
[03:40] <sethk> varsendagger, you could contact the freenode mavens, if you really want to make an issue, but it is not likely to get you anywhere
[03:40] <nalioth> opnsrc: root is disabled in ubuntu for a very good reason.
[03:40] <purplefeltangel> varsendagger: go on a mass murder spree!!!
[03:40] <opnsrc> I just forgot how to change the pw
[03:40] <pepsi> !yaboot
[03:40] <ubotu> pepsi: Wish i knew
[03:40] <opnsrc> Yeah, and I enabled it
[03:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jonathon about checkinstall
[03:40] <Fujitsu> jonathon: apt uses debs!
[03:40] <varsendagger> how do i apologize?
[03:40] <sethk> varsendagger, most channels clear that list frequently anyway
[03:41] <opnsrc> I know not to run applications on it
[03:41] <opnsrc> like X - chat
[03:41] <liable> varsendagger: /msg the op
[03:41] <purplefeltangel> how do i change a file from read-only??
[03:41] <lightbright> opnsrc: seeing you are new to Linux, who on earth told you to log in as root?
[03:41] <nalioth> opnsrc: there is NO reason for a 'root' account. sudo can do all superuser things you need
[03:41] <varsendagger> ahh
[03:41] <opnsrc> I know
[03:41] <liable> purplefeltangel: man chmod
[03:41] <robotgeek> opnsrc: did you enable the root user?
[03:41] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: chown 777 filename for example
[03:41] <opnsrc> Yeah
[03:41] <opnsrc> But I forgot how to change the pw
[03:42] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: what?
[03:42] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: chmod 444 file etc
[03:42] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: what does the number do?
[03:42] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: I mean chmod
[03:42] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: 7 = r+w+x
[03:42] <_classic> lightbright: chmod - change file access permissions
[03:42] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: what?
[03:43] <theacolyte> I guess I'll just have to get my wifi adpater working to see if I can ssh into it when it's in GDM and try to troubleshoot it that way
[03:43] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: what?
[03:43] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: what does the number do???
[03:43] <sethk> purplefeltangel, it is really best to not use the number
[03:43] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: read Linux for Dummies book about permissions before you tamper with them
[03:44] <sethk> purplefeltangel, you should do things like  chmod g+rw   filename
[03:44] <liable> theacolyte: try booting into single (edit grub) and remove gdm for know
[03:44] <lightbright> sethk: I use the numbers because I remmber them easier :)
[03:44] <Madpilot> purplefeltangel: try "man chmod" or man chown in a terminal
[03:44] <sethk> lightbright, they are error prone and very much the wrong way to do things
[03:44] <opnsrc> ok, how do I change the pw for my user?
[03:44] <theacolyte> Yeah I could try that as well same difference I guess hehe
[03:44] <theacolyte> doing that now
[03:44] <sethk> opnsrc, passwd username
[03:44] <sethk> opnsrc, as root
[03:44] <opnsrc> thanks
[03:44] <purplefeltangel> uhhhh.....
[03:44] <nalioth> sethk: there is no root account
[03:44] <lightbright> sethk: error prone?  you mean theres a bug in Linux that I can enter 7 and it doesnt do it?
[03:44] <sethk> nalioth, untrue
[03:44] <purplefeltangel> wow, conflicting information. :D
[03:44] <Madpilot> nalioth: he set one...
[03:44] <opnsrc> I have to start learning these commands
[03:44] <opnsrc> Linux rules
[03:44] <sethk> lightbright, absolutely error prone.
[03:45] <opnsrc> very stable OS, way better than windows
[03:45] <lightbright> sethk: error prone?  you mean theres a bug in Linux that I can enter 7 and it doesnt do it?
[03:45] <sethk> lightbright, agreement with that is directly proportional to experience in unix.
[03:45] <sethk> lightbright, no, I mean there is a bug in every human being and you will use the wrong number
[03:45] <_classic> how do i burn a hybrid/enhanced dvd containing a movie and a folder with docs?
[03:45] <sethk> lightbright, that's why the symbols were added, in 1974
[03:45] <Corrupter> can i get realvnc with apt-get?
[03:45] <lightbright> sethk: how come nobody else I have heard say there is a bug in linux's chmod using numbers?
[03:46] <sethk> lightbright, because you didn't here me say it either
[03:46] <sethk> lightbright, I said it is error prone
[03:46] <lightbright> sethk: how exactly it is error prone?  what you mean exactly pls?
[03:46] <sethk> lightbright, take absolutely any text on software practices, and in the first few sentences you will find the words "do not use literal numbers"
[03:46] <Corrupter> does anyone know how to get realvnc?
[03:46] <sethk> lightbright, you type in the wrong number, because you are doing a calculation in your head
[03:46] <opnsrc> I also have another question. When I switch from root to my regular user it asks for a pw, but when switching from the regular user back to root it doesn't
[03:46] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: um, id id what you said and now its an "exectuable text file," and it will elt me change, but it will not let me save.
[03:46] <lightbright> sethk: you mean if I enter for example chmod 777 filename, Linux can make an error?
[03:46] <opnsrc> Actually, I want the reverse to be true
[03:46] <sethk> Corrupter, you can install from the tarball,  Not sure about packages
[03:47] <ts2> What is the difference b/w Ubuntu and Debian? Is this explained somewhere?
[03:47] <sethk> lightbright, no, _you_ can make an error
[03:47] <Corrupter> sethk: no way to get it with apt-get?
[03:47] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: I didnt tell you to do anything!  I gave examples
[03:47] <sethk> lightbright, of course I suppose it is theoretically possible that linux _could_ make an error  :)
[03:47] <nalioth> opnsrc: it sounds like you've compromised your system already
[03:47] <opnsrc> heh
[03:47] <sethk> Corrupter, I don't know of one, but I don't know everything.  :)
[03:47] <akonkwa> How can I install the cdrdao package?
[03:47] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: well way to fuck up a linux n00b.
[03:47] <opnsrc> No, just learning how to use it
[03:47] <apokryphos> sethk: impossible :P
[03:47] <lightbright> sethk: ah heheh!  so user error not Linux error :)
[03:47] <opnsrc> I didn't install anything on it
[03:47] <sethk> lightbright, yes, absolutely
[03:47] <opnsrc> Look, if I first login to root it asks for a pw
[03:48] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: I gave an example, not the command
[03:48] <nalioth> opnsrc: well, what you just described is entirely a security problem
[03:48] <Madpilot> opnsrc: you might want to reinstall the whole thing, then, and not mess with the root stuff in future...
[03:48] <Quequeg> lightbright, I think you should patch cmhod so that you can use 24-bit binary permissions.  Much cooler.
[03:48] <opnsrc> but unless I logout of root, if I switch over to another display and switch back, it doesn't ask
[03:48] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: I have a website for you to read before you do anything
[03:48] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: ok, what.
[03:48] <sethk> Quequeg, hey, why not 64  :)
[03:48] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[03:48] <sethk> Quequeg, we can rewrite chmod again  :)
[03:48] <opnsrc> meaning I have to log out of root in order for it to ask
[03:48] <opnsrc> (no I'm sure it's just a setting)
[03:48] <lightbright> purplefeltangel: and try this too: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.htm
[03:49] <opnsrc> BTW thanks everyone
[03:49] <sethk> opnsrc, out of the box, that's what happens.  You can only enter the root password when logged in as a normal non-root user
[03:49] <sethk> opnsrc, but, if you install in expert mode that's not true
[03:49] <lightbright> Quequeg: i am not a developer!  ask sethk , I believe he may be a contributer
[03:49] <kismet> does using apt-get screw up the Synaptic Package Manager?
[03:49] <sethk> kismet, it doesn't
[03:49] <purplefeltangel> lightbright: the second site doesnt work, and id ont want to build my own distro! i want to make a read-only file *not* read-only so that sound will work in flash.
[03:49] <sethk> kismet, installing without using packages makes the database inconsistent with the machine
[03:49] <apokryphos> kismet: Synaptic is a front-end to APT
[03:50] <Quequeg> lightbright, I was joking that people use the number because they're cool, so binary would be *cooler*/more elite.  (sarcasm)
[03:50] <opnsrc> oh, it can't be changed
[03:50] <sethk> purplefeltangel, chmod a+w
[03:50] <opnsrc> uhm..... well thanks
[03:50] <sethk> chmod a+w filename
[03:50] <akonkwa> How can I install the cdrdao package?
[03:50] <theacolyte> disabled gdm via update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[03:50] <nalioth> akonkwa: use synaptic
[03:50] <apokryphos> akonkwa: fire up synaptic and select it for installation
[03:50] <sethk> akonkwa, I believe that's part of the cd write tools package
[03:51] <sethk> akonkwa, search for it in the package manager
[03:51] <jsherring> milksteak, any ideas? i get segfaults when i view any videos via firefox
[03:51] <jabbahut> Kinda new at this... Is there any benefit to compiling my kernel over just running the default installed 386 kernel? I'm on a Thinkpad with a P3.
[03:51] <sethk> akonkwa, in advanced mode
[03:51] <akonkwa> sethk: I've searched for it in synaptic, but I don't find it..
[03:51] <purplefeltangel> sethk: it still wont let me save it.
[03:51] <sethk> jabbahut, no, not really
[03:51] <theacolyte> jabbahut: you may see a difference, but it wouldn't be much
[03:51] <purplefeltangel> sethk: what should i do??
[03:51] <akonkwa> sethk : Ohj, I see
[03:51] <theacolyte> and it wouldn't be worth the days of recompiling
[03:51] <sethk> purplefeltangel, I didn't hear the entire story.  tell me what's happening again?
[03:51] <liable> jabbahut: no benifit really.
[03:52] <theacolyte> Ok -- I'm at the login screen without gdm in non-single user mode
[03:52] <jabbahut> cool - thanks guys
[03:52] <theacolyte> I'm thinking hte problem may lie within the xconfig itself
[03:52] <liable> theacolyte: startx?
[03:52] <purplefeltangel> sethk: ok. i want to make a file not read-only, so that i can edit it to make sound work in flash, and i did whatever lightbright told me to do, and now it gives me this message telling me it's an "executable text file" and it will let me edit hte file, but not save it.
[03:53] <sethk> purplefeltangel, oh, that's why you don't want to be using numbers.  :)
[03:53] <opnsrc> From what I'm reading it's safer to have a root pw
[03:53] <opnsrc> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26115.html
[03:53] <sethk> purplefeltangel, do   chmod a-x filename
[03:53] <akonkwa> sehtk : Ho do I get advanced mode?
[03:53] <opnsrc> Because if you don't, people can use sudo to compromise your system just with a regular user pw
[03:53] <opnsrc> but if you have one it'll ask for one first
[03:53] <sethk> akonkwa, file/advanced, after you do system/add applications
[03:53] <nalioth> opnsrc: the forums can be written into by anyone, it dosnt mean it's advisable
[03:53] <Corrupter> anyone know where to get realVNC for Ubuntu?
[03:53] <theacolyte> liable: greyscreen with an X, no WM loaded
[03:54] <theacolyte> can't switch screens again
[03:54] <theacolyte> geforce 6800 btw
[03:54] <ispiked> Corrupter: IIRC it's in synaptic.
[03:54] <purplefeltangel> sethk: ok, it doesnt display the "executable tex tfile" thing now but it still wont let me save it....now what?
[03:54] <liable> theacolyte: so its locked up?
[03:54] <burner> opnsrc, people can compromise if they have a user password of a user that has sudo privelege
[03:54] <theacolyte> liable: yes
[03:54] <liable> theacolyte: reconfigure x, try nv
[03:54] <sethk> purplefeltangel, sounds like it still isn't writable by you.   try:   chmod a+w filename
[03:54] <liable> theacolyte: or vesa
[03:54] <opnsrc> how do I get rid of sudo privelage?
[03:55] <_classic> i've been googling for the last 4hrs. how do i burn a hybrid/enhanced dvd containing a movie and a folder with docs?
[03:55] <opnsrc> or at least make it ask for a root pw first
[03:55] <liable> theacolyte: check logs, Xorg and .xsessionerrors
[03:55] <theacolyte> yup, gonna check that now
[03:55] <burner> opnsrc, users & groups... look in the checkboxes for "administrative tasks"
[03:55] <burner> opnsrc, and it's not advisable to have a root pw
[03:55] <nalioth> opnsrc: i think you are on your way to a broken machine. ubuntu is designed the way it is for a reason.
[03:55] <purplefeltangel> sethk: still doesnt work
[03:56] <purplefeltangel> how do i ignore a user?
[03:56] <robotgeek> purplefeltangel: /ignore nick
[03:56] <akonkwa> sehtk : I don't seem to have this potion. should I mention that I use hoary?
[03:56] <opnsrc> heh
[03:56] <purplefeltangel> robotgeek: i did that and it gave me an error and the person isnt ignored :/
[03:56] <opnsrc> why is it bad to have a root pw/
[03:56] <opnsrc> ?
[03:57] <sethk> opnsrc, it isn't, unless you abuse it
[03:57] <nalioth> opnsrc: because it's unnessary and makes it easier to hose your box
[03:57] <opnsrc> I don't plan to
[03:57] <sethk> opnsrc, the sudo command let's you restrict root access to specific commands
[03:57] <theacolyte> Well, it looks like it's using NV. Detected the card flawlessly. xsession-errors just shows some tcp connection problems (Non configured lan adapter)
[03:57] <sethk> opnsrc, so you are somewhat protected from yourself, _if_ you set it up carefully
[03:57] <theacolyte> GOing to try to reconfigure now
[03:57] <opnsrc> anywho, the only way to learn how to use a system is by ruining it
[03:57] <sethk> opnsrc, but if sudo can do everything that su can do, then sudo is actually worse
[03:57] <opnsrc> I've ruined windows so many times before I learned how not to
[03:58] <theacolyte> Is there a handy xorg configuration editor, or am I hacking at it with vi
[03:58] <sethk> opnsrc, my philosophy:  back up, then go to town  :)
[03:58] <opnsrc> I have mostly everything backed up on Cd's already
[03:58] <sethk> theacolyte, there are several, actually
[03:58] <liable> theacolyte: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:58] <sethk> opnsrc, have a production machine and a play machine
[03:58] <opnsrc> exactly
[03:58] <liable> theacolyte: dont hand edit otherwise dpkg wont work
[03:58] <sethk> opnsrc, if you are backed up, then all you risk is your time (to reinstall or revert or whatever)
[03:59] <opnsrc> I want to learn how to use linux
[03:59] <theacolyte> Never even used a debian based linux distro before, hehe, new(ish) territory
[03:59] <sethk> opnsrc, bang away.
[03:59] <JohnP789> I'm setting up a system for my little kid.  How can I disable all but one button on a per-user basis?
[03:59] <opnsrc> exactly
[03:59] <purplefeltangel> sethk: it still will not let me save that file; what should i do?
[03:59] <sethk> opnsrc, on my commercial products, I always have two builds.  The real build, and what I call the sandbox build
[03:59] <opnsrc> when I become good at this stuff I won't need to worry about now having a root pw
[03:59] <sethk> purplefeltangel, try   sudo chmod a+w  filename
[03:59] <opnsrc> not *
[03:59] <purplefeltangel> sethk: thats what i just did and it didnt work....
[04:00] <opnsrc> Linux is unix based right?
[04:00] <sethk> purplefeltangel, which editor are you using?
[04:00] <opnsrc> I want to buy a book or something
[04:00] <purplefeltangel> sethk: gedit
[04:00] <sethk> opnsrc, no, it's a unix look alike
[04:00] <SuperID> I've been told on #kdevelop that the version of kdevelop that I'm using (2.1) is woefully out of date, but according to synaptic I cannot upgrade.   Is there any way to get a current ver of kdevelop without too much pain?
[04:00] <opnsrc> I thought linux was built on unix
[04:00] <theacolyte> that's basically blaspheme opnsrc :P
[04:00] <sethk> purplefeltangel, some editors won't let you write if the file was read only when you started
[04:00] <opnsrc> Like Win98Se was built on DOS
[04:00] <sethk> purplefeltangel, I'd copy the file, paste it into some other file, and go to the command line and use cp
[04:00] <opnsrc> (ok, beter than how Win98SE was built)
[04:00] <purplefeltangel> sethk: what?
[04:00] <theacolyte> opnsrc: Some people would even get angry about someone saying that
[04:00] <sethk> purplefeltangel, I mean copy as in copy and paste
[04:00] <opnsrc> well sorry, I have no idea
[04:01] <opnsrc> That I could offend someone
[04:01] <sethk> purplefeltangel, open up some file in gedit that you can write to, copy and paste the text from the other.
[04:01] <purplefeltangel> sethk: yes.
[04:01] <Fushi> hehe
[04:01] <theacolyte> hehehe
[04:01] <opnsrc> sheesh
[04:01] <opnsrc> what's wrong with Unix?
[04:01] <purplefeltangel> sethk: but what about the command line??
[04:01] <opnsrc> I hear it's a solid OS
[04:01] <akonkwa> Where can i find a downlaod of  the JRE?
[04:01] <nalioth> sethk: please join us in #ubuntu-nun
[04:01] <burner> SuperID, try the 3.5rc1 repository of Kubuntu
[04:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell akonkwa about javadebs
[04:01] <sethk> purplefeltangel, after you save your new file, say it is file2, then you do   cp file2 /path/to/file/you/couldn't/change
[04:01] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell akonkwa about javadebs
[04:02] <purplefeltangel> sethk: ah ok
[04:02] <Moco> Dang. I am trying to get Super Tux to work, but when I run "sudo super tux" it starts and then says that it can't load blackletters.png. I have all the png librarie installed.
[04:02] <theacolyte> opnsrc: http://www.google.com/search?q=history+of+linux
[04:02] <zapada_> could someone help me here install linuxant drivers for my dialup win modem?
[04:02] <burner> SuperID, sudo apt-get install kdevelop3
[04:02] <SuperID> burner:   by adding a repository ?
[04:02] <burner> SuperID, try without another repository first
[04:02] <Phoul> Hello people is teher real player for ubuntu?
[04:02] <SuperID> burner:   k, thx
[04:02] <Moco> Yes Phoul
[04:02] <Phoul> How do i get it moco?
[04:03] <Phoul> I looked in synaptic
[04:03] <Phoul> Its not in there
[04:03] <burner> !tell phoul about realplayer
[04:03] <Moco> One sec.. Let me find it..
[04:03] <purplefeltangel> sethk: THANK YOU
[04:03] <purplefeltangel> sethk: it worked :DDDD
[04:03] <Ron_o> Phoul: yes..
[04:03] <Moco> What burner?
[04:03] <sethk> purplefeltangel, good.  :)
[04:03] <zapada_> !tell zapda about dialup modems
[04:03] <Ron_o> in synaptic package manager.
[04:03] <zapada_> !tell zapada about modems
[04:03] <Phoul> moco why does it say restricted?
[04:03] <zapada_> ffs
[04:03] <Phoul> in the URL
[04:03] <burner> Phoul, go to the URL :P
[04:03] <Moco> I don't know..
[04:03] <purplefeltangel> sethk: ....but sound still isn't working in flash. :/
[04:03] <ts2> How do you say HUMANITY in German?
[04:03] <sethk> purplefeltangel, that's a much more complicated thing
[04:04] <burner> purplefeltangel, you make the symlink like the wiki says?
[04:04] <sethk> :)
[04:04] <opnsrc> thanks
[04:04] <purplefeltangel> burner: what?
[04:04] <opnsrc> theacolyte thanks
[04:04] <burner> !tell purplefeltangel about flash
[04:04] <zapada_> !tell zapda about firefox
[04:04] <purplefeltangel> burner: i read that page and i did the thing it said and sound still isnt working.
[04:04] <burner> purplefeltangel, check that link and look for the "sound problems"
[04:04] <purplefeltangel> burner: it doesnt work.
[04:04] <Moco> Does the "!" mean do NOT ?
[04:04] <Discipulus> !tell me about firefox
[04:04] <yer> hey guys, im a debian kinda guy, but i just setup  a friend with ubuntu because ive been reading the ubuntu forums and it looks beter suited to the less "power" users..
[04:04] <yer> so my question is
[04:04] <burner> Moco, correct
[04:04] <zapada_> could someone help me here install linuxant drivers for my dialup win modem?
[04:05] <duncanm> hmm
[04:05] <Moco> Ok..
[04:05] <opnsrc> I still want to fix this thing where, if a root session is open anyone can login w/o a pw
[04:05] <yer> is there a good guide for ati drivers
[04:05] <yer> for like a 9800xt
[04:05] <duncanm> so i think i got an upgraded nvidia-glx the other day
[04:05] <burner> purplefeltangel, u have more than one sound card?
[04:05] <duncanm> i just restarted my machine and X stopped working, says the 'nvidia' module cannot be found
[04:05] <purplefeltangel> burner: dont think so
[04:05] <gee_cee0> hey just wondering, how would i share folders and allow other users with windows read/write?
[04:05] <klaxian> i just installed ubuntu onto one partition on my hard drive - another partition has windows on it and i want to dual-boot
[04:05] <Moco> Make a samba share gee_cee0
[04:05] <SuperID> burner:   worked perfectly, ty :)
[04:05] <gee_cee0> i downloaded samba
[04:05] <zapada_> could someone help me here install linuxant drivers for my dialup win modem?
[04:06] <klaxian> the grub configuration i'm trying isn't working
[04:06] <burner> SuperID, np
[04:06] <gee_cee0> and i shared the floder
[04:06] <klaxian> can anyone help?
[04:06] <gee_cee0> folder
[04:06] <liable> klaxian: dont they have instructions at the site?
[04:06] <gee_cee0> buy when the other computer tries to access the shared folders in my computer
[04:06] <Moco> Go to System-> Administration -> Share Folders
[04:06] <sethk> klaxian, what's happening?