[10:05] <bit_doidao> nu, im think it calls the default browser, that is configured in System > Preferences > Prefered Applications (i use brazilian ubuntu, so dont know the exactly location)
[10:05] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: run the command "groups" please and paste the output
[10:05] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, e.g. fbsetroot -mod 4 4 -bg color -fg color
[10:05] <Dodzey> dr_willis: yeah, thats what i gathered, but any ideas how to solve it?
[10:05] <odla> how do i make f-spot start automatically when i connect a digital camera?  i know that it's under removable drives, i just don't know the correct syntax
[10:05] <hussam> ThunderStruck: I just want to know if the user list in a channel can be in 'user pane' like in the normal xchat.
[10:05] <nu> bit_doidao: i have the defailt browser det to mozilla firefox
[10:05] <A[D] minS> oem adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[10:05] <Flowking> runes2006: automate to what ? DAT/DLT/BAND Robot ?
[10:05] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: okay, to fix it you can go: sudo chown oem:oem -R /home/oem
[10:05] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: and what will that do?
[10:05] <runes2006> dr_willis, I looked at your suggestions for adduser..I had to modify the adduser to allow for more than two users and chmod but it now works and sets the permissions of the public_html
[10:05] <gnomefreak> hussam: im sure it can be just look in menus
[10:05] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  check google for your brand motherboard/pc - perhaps tehres a bios update. or some bug with your specific pc/mb/bios/
[10:05] <bit_doidao> odla, configure it in System > Preferences > Removable devices (something like this)
[10:05] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: but it would be good to figure out *why* it happened, or it may happen again
[10:06] <A[D] minS> thx Samus_Aran
[10:06] <gnomefreak> wtf
[10:06] <runes2006> Flowking, to a physical drive and partition
[10:06] <move_> the subject says if the repos are slow use a mirror
[10:06] <move_> what are the mirrors?
[10:06] <odla> i know but i don't know the right syntax
[10:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> Azureal, that create a grid background with squares that are bg color and lines that are fg color.
[10:06] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: i don't understand your -mod switch...creates  a 'modula pattern'
[10:06] <Dodzey> dr_willis: it works fine under windows so i'm thinking it can't be a mobo issue?
[10:06] <Flowking> runes2006: id suggest using "dd"
[10:06] <bit_doidao> odla, f-sopt
[10:06] <dr_willis> runes2006,  :) where you the one doing a file server for his sisters school?
[10:06] <Sir_Fawnpug> Azureal, hold on, let me find a screenshot
[10:06] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: why the hell would i want that?!
[10:06] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  it can be if the apci/bios stuff is not followign the standard that linux thinks it should be following.
[10:06] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: do you ever log in as root, or do you just use "sudo" ?  if you only use sudo, then it logs all the commands run as sudo ... if you look at that log, you should be able to find the command that changed ownership of /home/oem
[10:06] <Flowking> runes2006: it handles everything... tar does not hadle evolution mailboxes (pice of shit)
[10:07] <Flowking> :)
[10:07] <azureal> *sry for use of hell =)*
[10:07] <Dodzey> dr_willisL okay i'll do some googles and get back to you, thanks
[10:07] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: unless you somehow mounted /home so that it is *always* owned by root user, that is possible as well
[10:07] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  i had a pc that the clock ran at 2x speed under linux , till i updated the bios. :P
[10:07] <bit_doidao> odla, try f-spot-import
[10:07] <andersja> All, hello there - I'm new to Ubuntu and just installed it on an old PentiumII (MMX) the other day. I have two rather significant problems at the moment
[10:07] <hussam> gnomefreak: there is not setting for it, I checked. The is only a button I can click that will temporaraly show the user list in a dialog window.
[10:07] <Flowking> azureal: tell twell tail of long haired bigfoot :)
[10:07] <andersja> a) anything involving my wireless card makes the machine freeze completely
[10:07] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: after that "sudo chown" command, go another: \ls -ld /home/oem
[10:07] <azureal> Sir_Fawnpug: after i installed feh, the fbsetbg command works... so it's np... idk what you're trying to do now
[10:07] <nu> bit_doidao: check your PM
[10:07] <Samus_Aran> A[D] minS: it should say oem:oem now
[10:08] <bit_doidao> nu, nothing here
[10:08] <Sir_Fawnpug> azureal, the modula pattern is just a preference.
[10:08] <bmonkey> hi
[10:08] <Flowking> gnomefreak: Ehum?
[10:08] <andersja> b) any action involving moving a large amount of files ( >40/50 files) - e.g. from a USB harddrive or from a CD-ROM makes the machine freeze completely
[10:08] <azureal> flowking: ?!
[10:08] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, luckily a reboot worked out just fine
[10:08] <Samus_Aran> azureal: do you have a Win32 install to see if it does the same there ?  that sounds like a physical hardware problem
[10:08] <nu> how do i register this name?
[10:08] <Sir_Fawnpug> And for the record, I happen to like it.
[10:08] <nu> so i can PM people?
[10:08] <runes2006> Flowking, no this is a site for myself
[10:08] <nuaimat> thank you guys , thank you so much , i would like to speically thank BobSong & nalioth
[10:08] <dr_willis> andersja,  permently lock up? or just temperary?
[10:08] <nu> !register
[10:08] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:08] <nuaimat> bbye
[10:08] <andersja> dr_willis: permanent
[10:08] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: good.  did it fsck it (is the free space count back) ?
[10:08] <bit_doidao> nu, i think that only registered users can PM
[10:08] <azureal> samus_aran: ?!!?!!?
[10:08] <runes2006> Flowking, dies it handle sql database backup?
[10:09] <nu> bit_doidao: yea im trying to register.
[10:09] <Flowking> azureal: hell dwell well
[10:09] <andersja> machine doesn't reboot, screen doesn't blank - it just freezes (for both the wifi card & the file moving)
[10:09] <dr_willis> andersja,  bummer.
[10:09] <bit_doidao> odla, it worked?
[10:09] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, yeah it's all back there
[10:09] <odla> bit_doidao: thanks it worked
[10:09] <Flowking> runes2006: "does" ?
[10:09] <Flowking> runes2006: :)
[10:09] <bit_doidao> odla, great to know! :)
[10:09] <andersja> dr_willis: any ideas at all?
[10:09] <Samus_Aran> azureal: I thought you were saying your wireless was locking up your machine, if not, nevermind me, I wasn't reading the rest of your conversation =p
[10:09] <Flowking> runes2006: "dd" is a lowlevel copy command
[10:09] <andersja> I already run with irqpoll and ide=nodma
[10:09] <runes2006> Flowking, typo crazed been working at this site for a week  great success but never did I think I'd have to script so much
[10:09] <dr_willis> andersja,  not even sure how to trouble shoot that..
[10:09] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: good, good
[10:09] <azureal> samus_aran: lol.. i never mentioned _anything_ about wireless
[10:10] <dr_willis> andersja,  could try going to the console and see if copying things from the shell does the same thing.
[10:10] <Flowking> runes2006: itll make sure you have what you need, tar will not
[10:10] <Dodzey> dr_willis: the only problem i got is i can't remember the product number of my mobo
[10:10] <andersja> the wifi driver is a known pb - found an entry on ubuntuforums
[10:10] <bmonkey> i installed Dapper altarnate. is it normal, that it starts without a x??? when i try startx, it does not work
[10:10] <Flowking> runes2006: Np.. just making sure yournt jolting
[10:10] <Samus_Aran> azureal: oh, too many "a" nicknames on tab-completion, pardon me
[10:10] <Samus_Aran> heh
[10:10] <nu> bit_doidao: try now. see if my PM went
[10:10] <aujordanh> is anyone here using broadcom 43xx??
[10:10] <Samus_Aran> andersja: that was for you, I suppose
[10:10] <tuxtux_> ri ciao
[10:10] <andersja> dr_willis: yes - I did cp -r * (a bunch of mp3 files) from the CDROM to /local/music and it got stuck after 30-40 files
[10:10] <odla> sweet now banshee loads my ipod too
[10:10] <odla> mono love :)
[10:10] <azureal> Samus_Aran: lol, i totally didnt know that xchat had tab completion ....
[10:11] <daint> sorry to ask such a seemingly common question, but how do I upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06?
[10:11] <aujordanh> !upgrade
[10:11] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:11] <Samus_Aran> andersja: do you have a Win32 install to see if it does the same there ?  that sounds like a physical hardware problem
[10:11] <Flowking> azureal: Oh.. it does :P
[10:11] <bit_doidao> odla, i am an amarok lover :)
[10:11] <CVirus-Cilantro> what language is the systemsettings tool written with ?
[10:11] <daint> thanks
[10:11] <CVirus-Cilantro> the one that comes with Kubuntu
[10:11] <andersja> Samus: good question - I used to have Win95 (on another hard drive)
[10:11] <azureal> Flowking, oh yes
[10:11] <odla> amarok is nice but a little too heavy on my computer
[10:11] <aujordanh> daint, anytime
[10:11] <odla> also i love GNOME apps
[10:11] <azureal> Flowking, it even capitalizes
[10:11] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, I appreciate the help man, thank god all of the services started back up as normal
[10:11] <TheGateKeeper> !pastebin > TheGateKeeper
[10:12] <Samus_Aran> azureal: most IRC clients have some form of Tab-completion.  I am using irssi here, but X-Chat, mIRC, etc. also have it
[10:12] <bmonkey> i installed Dapper altarnate. is it normal, that it starts without a x??? when i try startx, it does not work
[10:12] <andersja> Samus - so the answer is - no I haven't got a Windows install on this PC
[10:12] <Flowking> Does xmms play mp3's in ubuntu ? .. redhat has patched it so that it does not and users are forced to use rhythmbox or other things
[10:12] <aujordanh> anyone here using broadcom 43xx
[10:12] <bit_doidao> odla, i love but, but didnt loved listen, banshee or even rythmbox
[10:12] <azureal> i've always loved xchat
[10:12] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, I am, however, surprised that the filesystem isn't smart enough to recognize when the free space has been cleared automatically without having to fsck the partition
[10:12] <aujordanh> Flowking, yes if you have the mp3 codecs
[10:12] <Dodzey> BobSongs:any luck with the audio capture yet?
[10:12] <azureal> later versions for windows cost some money now =/
[10:12] <Flowking> Im angry at 666 redhat now (You nogood coders you..) :)
[10:12] <Robert> Does anyone know a howto to get a DWL-G122 (Rev. C) to work?
[10:12] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: the only worry would have been if it wasn't able to boot up due to a partition error, it would have sat there waiting for you to put in root password to do maintenance
[10:12] <odla> i don't like rhythmbox  very much
[10:12] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: in general, if it boots once, it will boot next time
[10:12] <bit_doidao> odla, and also, only amarok supports shortcuts with the super key combinning with other keys
[10:13] <Samus_Aran> RamiKassab: (more-so than Windows =p heh)
[10:13] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, heh true true
[10:13] <bit_doidao> odla, so when i press super_key+right, it forward to the next music, superkey+up, it increases the sound..
[10:13] <RamiKassab> Samus_Aran, I had never rebooted the system myself so I wasn't sure... anyways, thanks again... it's much appreciated!
[10:13] <aujordanh> can somebody with a broadcom 43xx driver paste their /etc/network.interfaces file?
[10:13] <Flowking> aujordanh: see this (other redhat "recommended players work great") http://mange.dynalias.org/linux/misc/xmms_redhat_packaged/xmms_redhat_packaged.png
[10:13] <Samus_Aran> andersja: do you have any other Live CD distros that you could test the hardware on, such as Knoppix ?
[10:14] <Flowking> aujordanh: They are the "LOCKIN"-Devil itself
[10:14] <odla> bit_doidao: that's pretty cool
[10:14] <odla> do you run kde?
[10:14] <CVirus-Cilantro> what language is the systemsettings tool written with ? .... the one that comes with Kubuntu
[10:14] <Samus_Aran> andersja: a complete lock-up sounds like a hardware issue.  you might also want to try disabling some advanced features in your BIOS.  for me, Ubuntu crashed on boot until I disabled APIC in the BIOS.  but my previous distro was fine with APIC on ..
[10:14] <andersja> Samus: I haven't but that's a good suggestion
[10:14] <Dodzey> dr_willis: I can't find anything on google, ive tried boot options acpi=force and lapic with no success, any other ideas?
[10:14] <nu> How do i create a new folder on my desktop? (using XFCE here)
[10:14] <sycho> I istalled ubuntu using the x86 alternate. I then updated my kernel to linux-k7 using apt-grt and removed i386. but I still keep getting messages to update my i386 kernel. Why would this be?
[10:14] <aujordanh> Flowking, no free linux distros have out of the box mp3 support
[10:15] <nu> sycho: reboot, and grub should give you a list of kernels to use
[10:15] <Flowking> aujordanh: i was using linux before most anyone in this channel... im developing it
[10:15] <Flowking> aujordanh: I code gadmintools.org atm
[10:15] <micahcowan> Flowking, how is that relevant?
[10:15] <Samus_Aran> andersja: there are also a few devices which can't handle PCI bus mastering
[10:16] <Samus_Aran> andersja: they are rare, but it is worth it to try turning that off for one boot
[10:16] <sycho> nu: I did. and I loaded the k7 kernel. But auto update keeps trying to update the i386 kernel (which isn't installed). I want it to stop updating i386 though.. the
[10:16] <Flowking> micahcowan: hows you asking _that_ of any relevance ?
[10:16] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  theres also apic.. and if you got windows installed several motherboard info tools that may tell ya what exact mb ya got.
[10:16] <FurryNemesis> has anyone noticed that compiz is behaving slightly differently after the upgrade?
[10:16] <sycho> If I let it update the i386 kernel it messes up my grub boot loader
[10:16] <Flowking> micahcowan: Wind went sour on the hillside ?
[10:16] <dr_willis> Dodzey,  but disablignm that stuff normally DIsABLES the features you are wanting to enable
[10:17] <micahcowan> ?!
[10:17] <aujordanh> Flowking, then I obviously have absolutely no clue what you are talking about?
[10:17] <Flowking> micahcowan: who are you and why do you interfjeer ?
[10:17] <azureal> ah, anyone know how to remove some of the  horizontal lines on gkrellm?
[10:17] <sycho> Is there a file you can edit that tells it which apps to look for updates for?
[10:17] <Dodzey> anyone else find banshee slow in comparison to rhythmbox, i know it uses mono so there'll be some overhead, but it just seems so sluggish
[10:18] <aujordanh> Flowking, in that case can you help me with my /etc/network/interfaces file?
[10:18] <nu> sycho: try checking automatic updates. set it to off
[10:18] <Samus_Aran> Dodzey: never heard of Banshee, myself.  I use XMMS2, here
[10:18] <Flowking> aujordanh Flowking, "no free linux distros have out of the box mp3 support" i know.. redhat patched xmms to not support mp3
[10:18] <ardchoille> Is anyone else having a problem with the repos?
[10:18] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Nothing yet. I've tweaked every setting in alsamixer without any success.
[10:18] <crimsun> ardchoille: read the topic.
[10:18] <azureal> ok, nvm, fixed  my gkrellm issue..set grids to 1 rather than 0 (auto)
[10:18] <Flowking> aujordanh: youre no coder perhaps.. then i see why youre not getting the lockin
[10:18] <Dodzey> if i use the media keys on my keyboard rhythmbox is already playing the next track before i finished pushing skip, haha
[10:18] <sycho> nu: I lilke the auto updates for everything else though.. except update the i386 kernel. Which I still don't understand why it is trying to update it since I removed it.
[10:18] <NickGarvey> azureal: yeah, right click the - okie
[10:19] <NickGarvey> azureal: :)
[10:19] <bit_doidao> odla, i loved kde for a long time. Ubuntu showed me how to love gnome :)
[10:19] <andersja> Samus: how do I turn of PCI mastering?
[10:19] <Flowking> aujordanh: redhat "Use commercial apps or dont listen to mp3's at all"
[10:19] <azureal> nickgarvey: hehe, solved it while you were typing? =)
[10:19] <Samus_Aran> andersja: it is an option in the BIOS as well
[10:19] <Dodzey> BobSongs: tried reinstalling all the alsa packages? it wont freak and ask you to do stuff to gnome if you just use reinstall
[10:19] <ardchoille> crimsun: Where can I find a list of mirrors?
[10:19] <nu> sycho: did you just mark it for complete removal, or just removal?
[10:19] <aujordanh> Flowking, or no longer free as in free speech right?
[10:19] <andersja> Samus: thanks - will try.
[10:19] <andersja> thanks for your help
[10:19] <BobSongs> Dodzey: That was done last night. To no avail, I'm afraid.
[10:19] <anirban> how to get php-mysql extension using apt-get
[10:19] <Flowking> aujordanh: not free as in anything dude
[10:19] <Viper550> I'm just wondering, why doesn't the sound effect feature on Gnome support OGG?
[10:19] <NickGarvey> azureal: yup :)
[10:19] <crimsun> ardchoille: on the wiki.
[10:19] <sycho> nu: i did apt-get remove linux-386
[10:20] <aujordanh> Flowking, ouch
[10:20] <Samus_Aran> andersja: I would definitely google for the card name and model which is causing the lockups, see if anyone else had the same problem (which would be hopeful, as then it would likely be a driver issue, not a hardware failure, like it seems to me to be)
[10:20] <BobSongs> Dodzey: the driver re-installation was very recent.
[10:20] <aujordanh> Flowking, you know alot about networking?
[10:20] <crimsun> ardchoille: or just change the CC.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:20] <sam_> Ubuntu christian edition? wack.
[10:20] <nu> sycho: uninstall it through Syanptic Package Manager
[10:20] <azureal> btw, since we're talking about removal, does apt-get remove do a "removal" or a "complete removal"
[10:20] <crimsun> sam_: it's as legit as every other Ubuntu derivative.
[10:20] <Samus_Aran> Viper550: that seems quite lame
[10:20] <Dodzey> BobSongs:i know it seems like the easy way out, but you might aswell reinstall...
[10:20] <Samus_Aran> Viper550: everything should support Vorbis
[10:20] <Flowking> aujordanh: speech must always be free (say "shit" on efnets linux channel, for each iteration youll be banned *2 weeks :P)
[10:20] <Viper550> OGG is Vorbis
[10:20] <Samus_Aran> free for everyone
[10:21] <NickGarvey> .ogg is vorbis in an ogg wrapper
[10:21] <CVirus-Cilantro> what language is the systemsettings tool written with ? .... the one that comes with Kubuntu
[10:21] <Samus_Aran> Viper550: yes.  ogg is the container, vorbis is the audio codec
[10:21] <runes2006> there's a difference between free speech and good manners
[10:21] <PMantis> incandenza, What is you I was chatting with about a new kernel and a slow laptop?
[10:21] <Viper550> Well, whatever! Thanks for explaining, either call it Ogg or Ogg Vorbis so you won't confuse me please
[10:21] <ardchoille> crimsun: I'm only using archive.ubuntu.com .. I removed the "us" part weeks ago.
[10:21] <agliodbs> hmmm ... this machine has only USB keyboard/mouse.  Will that be an issue?
[10:21] <Samus_Aran> Viper550: I just mean everything should provide ogg/vorbis support, it is a free and Free codec
[10:21] <Flowking> aujordanh: So we stuck an army of ugly bots there :)
[10:21] <runes2006> free speech is being able to say whatever you want but manners are knowing the time and place
[10:21] <sam_> experiment: Shit!
[10:22] <NickGarvey> !language
[10:22] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:22] <crimsun> ardchoille: so try {ch,de,nl,se}.archive
[10:22] <Viper550> But, why doesn't it?
[10:22] <ardchoille> crimsun: ok, thanks
[10:22] <Tomosaurus> agliodbs, I'm using wireless USB keyboard and mouse, so I doubt it'll be an issue for you
[10:22] <Samus_Aran> agliodbs: that is only sometimes an issue on older BIOSes, or if you are one of the tweakers that likes to remove the USB modules while the system is up (then you have no keyboard left to modprobe them again, heh)
[10:22] <Samus_Aran> agliodbs: but it won't be a problem for this lockup you're having
[10:23] <BobSongs> Well. Samus_Aran is right though in that I should continue to tinker before I breakdown and and wipe the entire system. I know it's just a local system; but if one is to get good at working with Linux one must remain patient. I guess the next step is re-compiling the kernel. I think this may be the problem. Don't feel bad, dude. You did good.
[10:23] <ucordes> how can i add items to the places section in USP (Ubuntu System Panel) ?
[10:23] <FurryNemesis> has anyone managed to mount a Nokia N70 Phone with Gnokii?
[10:23] <Flowking> ardchoille: no outside msgs... i was looking forward to speaking to someone sane today.
[10:23] <anirban> Oh I got it apt-get install php5-mysql
[10:23] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: No but i managed to mess up my d600 tranfslash with nautilus
[10:23] <BobSongs> Time for a nap.
[10:24] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: Ubuntu provides several kernels.  try those before compiling your own when you're new to it ... there are hundreds of small details you can miss out, which will break random things, if you turn off features in the kernel
[10:24] <sycho> nu: is there a way to make it so when it updates the kernel it autoremoves the last kernel?
[10:24] <runes2006> anirban, are you setting up LAMP?
[10:24] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, lovely
[10:24] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, won't try that then
[10:24] <Samus_Aran> BobSongs: on the other hand, if you have lots of free time, feel free to break things.  it's a great way to learn =p
[10:24] <Flowking> BobSongs: come on BobSongs.. youre still sleeping (matrix-style:)
[10:24] <ardchoille> Flowking: outside msgs? What are you talking about?
[10:25] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: well i guess it was my fault. you just should not format your card if your are trying to use it as mass storage
[10:25] <bjron> anyone know a quick/easy way to find all the IPs on my LAN (all 192.168 adresses) which are connected to something (ie, a computer of some sort)
[10:25] <BobSongs> Samus_Aran: Heyyy. You've got a point there. I COULD simply remove the current kernel in favour of another. OR I could boot to a previous kernel in the list I have at boot time! GREAT thinking, dude!!!
[10:25] <Astinus-> Samus_Aran: is it possible to view a list of all kernel config options?
[10:25] <BobSongs> Flowking: LOL!!
[10:25] <Flowking> ardchoille: unauthenticated messages are rejected by you (i refuse to auth)
[10:25] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, oops
[10:25] <Dodzey> BobSongs:if that doesn't work its highly unlikely recompiling will work, considering it was working on a previous install
[10:25] <BobSongs> Flowking: Is that what that huge thingie is in the back of my neck?
[10:25] <Samus_Aran> I think I'm going to go play Ancient Domains Of Mystery for a while ... have a good game going on, a very kind and heroic Trollish Paladin
[10:25] <Flowking> BobSongs Nighty man ;)
[10:25] <nu> sycho: not that i know of. i updated my kernel (installed xubuntu few hours ago) and the grub still showed me the old kernels. i had to uninstall them through synaptic
[10:26] <DanaG> argh, Compiz iz broken.
[10:26] <FurryNemesis> DanaG, what did you do?
[10:26] <BobSongs> Dodzey: Lemme try a previous kernel. That's an easy solution!
[10:26] <wubrgamer> hey guys what is the default usename and password for phpmyadmin ? (i.e. default mysql user ?)
[10:26] <nu> sycho: did you successfully remove the 386 kernel? or does it still ask you to update
[10:26] <BobSongs> It's listed in my Grub setup.
[10:26] <DanaG> Is there an easy way to remove all gconf items pertaining to it?
[10:26] <Flowking> BobSongs: Nope, thats just a Blob, Bob :)
[10:26] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: what ya wanna do with your phone?
[10:26] <BobSongs> Flowking: lol!!
[10:26] <Flowking> hehe
[10:26] <Samus_Aran> Astinus-: yes
[10:26] <Dodzey> DanaG: yeah
[10:26] <BobSongs> ;)
[10:26] <sycho> nu: Still removing all of the old 386 kernels. theres a couple
[10:26] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, transfer music from my computer to it primarily
[10:26] <nu> wubrgamer: i think the username is 'root' and there is no password
[10:26] <BobSongs> I shall return!
[10:26] <nu> if not root, its admin
[10:26] <wubrgamer> thank you
[10:26] <nu> sycho: ok, i hope it works =)
[10:26] <Dodzey> DanaG: show hidden files in your home directory and delete the .compiz folder
[10:27] <Samus_Aran> Astinus-: I don't think Ubuntu has the option enabled in the kernel to have it show up in /proc, but it will have the configuration file in /boot
[10:27] <ardchoille> Flowking: What are yu talking about? Did you try to pm me or something?
[10:27] <DanaG> There are 2 different versions of compiz, and they seem to have confused each other with the other's settings.
[10:27] <Flowking> I wote for "BobSong"!!!
[10:27] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: ok. via usb?
[10:27] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, thing is, device manager can see it
[10:27] <Samus_Aran> Astinus-: just run "uname -r" or "cat /proc/version" to get the exact kernel version
[10:27] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, yes
[10:27] <Samus_Aran> Astinus-: then look in /boot for a matching config
[10:27] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: ok. look for a usb mode option on your phone then
[10:27] <Flowking> ardchoille: yes.. thought id say hi and ask what you code etc, i think we have spoken before and i liked it
[10:28] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: for me there are 3 options. i can choose wether my celly uses the usb as pictbridge, modem or just mass storage...
[10:28] <Dodzey> DanaG, just delete the .compiz folder in your home directory
[10:28] <Samus_Aran> alright, ADOM time.  g'day allveryone
[10:28] <ardchoille> Flowking: ok
[10:28] <nu> brb
[10:28] <DanaG> more like .gconf/apps/compiz
[10:28] <Flowking> ardchoille: This is why i dont like freenode... more and more locked in freedoms
[10:28] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, ooh
[10:28] <DanaG> Oh, and the NVIDIA drivers seem to be making all my consoles blank.
[10:29] <tich> does anyone know how to set up suspend? whenever i try to do it i just get a warning.
[10:29] <sycho> nu: awesome thanks. it worked.. It dosn't ask to update the i386 kernel anymore. Now is there a way to get it auto remove the old kernel when it update to a new kernel?
[10:29] <Flowking> ardchoille: Yup, ive made up my mind.. youre atleast as good a coder as me
[10:30] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: found something?
[10:30] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, don't seem to have any options here
[10:30] <goonies> is something up with the mirrors today =\
[10:30] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: take a look at your manual
[10:30] <Dodzey> DanaG: ohh yeah, sorry, i run Quinns packages, that .compiz folder just stores theme and cgwd settings
[10:30] <sethk> sycho, you do NOT want to do that.  keep the old kernel around for at least a few weeks until you are convinced the newer one doesn't cause problems.
[10:30] <micahcowan> goonies, us.archive works for me...
[10:30] <Flowking> ardchoille: Do strict azzm'96 ?
[10:30] <PeterPowell> Hello All
[10:31] <SkaFreak> Hey everyone, I was considering trying out ubuntu and while I was reading saw that you could get it with gnome, kde, or xfce, and I was wondering if you could use other window managers instead, like blackbox/fluxbox
[10:31] <sycho> sethk: good point..
[10:31] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: if it is a real mass storage, ubuntu will find it!
[10:31] <ardchoille> Flowking: Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:31] <bjron> sycho, just a thought, auto-removing old kernels when a new is installed *might* be bad, in case the new one didn't boot or something
[10:31] <PeterPowell> On the install it says 303:31
[10:31] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, fiddling.......
[10:31] <sethk> SkaFreak, of course, all of the ab ove
[10:31] <ucordes> ^^
[10:31] <PeterPowell> is that minutes
[10:31] <PeterPowell> or hours
[10:31] <PeterPowell> 303:31
[10:31] <SkaFreak> Alright, thanks wanted to make sure that I could keep fluxbox before I nuked my gentoo installation
[10:31] <goonies> isnt working seemless for me, might be my connection or something
[10:31] <Flowking> ardchoille: oh, didnt know there was a hangout channel.. neat
[10:32] <sam__> join #suse
[10:32] <sam__> sorry type
[10:32] <sycho> good points. anyway to remove old kernels when like 3+ accumalate?
[10:32] <sam__> typo
[10:32] <micahcowan> goonies, just sluggish, or actually not working?
[10:32] <PeterPowell> 303:31 TIME LEFT ON INSTALL - IS THIS MINUTES OR HOURS
[10:32] <sethk> sycho, I don't know of a way to do it automatically.  it really isn't difficult to do manually
[10:32] <sethk> PeterPowell, years
[10:32] <sycho> sethk: I know.. just a thought
[10:32] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, hmm, option here asking me for a host address - wonder if I should find the addy of the usb port it's plugged into
[10:33] <goonies> micahcowan, sluggish, like halts to a stop
[10:33] <PeterPowell> ERR
[10:33] <micahcowan> !shout
[10:33] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:33] <PeterPowell> OOPS
[10:33] <PeterPowell> sorry
[10:33] <PeterPowell> i have to shout on my chan
[10:33] <micahcowan> PeterPowell, I don't know, but I /think/ it's minutes
[10:33] <PeterPowell> good
[10:33] <acojlo> If I add universe and multiverse repositories will they clash with my packages from main repositories (different version, etc ...)?
[10:33] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: you sure this is related to the usb functionallity?
[10:33] <SkaFreak> If I'm going to switch to fluxbox immediately does it really matter if I use ubuntu or xubuntu, or will they all have the exact same result in the end?
[10:33] <Dodzey> PeterPowell....minutes i believe, but why is it talking 303 minutes? myne took 15 tops
[10:34] <micahcowan> goonies, maybe try comparing it to normal downloads off some other website?
[10:34] <PeterPowell> ill leave it to work all night
[10:34] <ColdDeath> Yeah mine took 15-20 mins
[10:34] <LnxSlck> anyone can help me setup my 5.1 channel sound ??
[10:34] <bjron> sycho, mb a script that runs periodically, but that's probably more trouble than it's worth to write
[10:34] <tomveens> Hey, there is going to be a live stream because Archimedes and his Ancient Writings Revealed! But it is in realmedia format and an rtsp stream, how can I watch it in ubuntu?
[10:34] <goonies> seems like its my wireless connection
[10:34] <sethk> SkaFreak, I'd do the expert install and select what I want.  in that case kubuntu or ubuntu are about the same.
[10:34] <tomveens> mean ubuntu dapper amd64
[10:34] <bjron> sycho, but you could just leave them all installed, and have grup only show the latest 3
[10:34] <SkaFreak> alright, thanks for the help
[10:34] <goonies> =\
[10:34] <PeterPowell> err
[10:34] <PeterPowell> it is partitioning c: 50/50#
[10:34] <goonies> funny how network monitor says my connection is a 100%
[10:35] <FurryNemesis> ucordes, no idea, but it's the only option I've got short of going the gnokii route and last time that was as useful as a chocolate hammer
[10:35] <micahcowan> goonies: :-\
[10:35] <micahcowan> sorry, man
[10:35] <sethk> PeterPowell, nothing in a normal install takes anywhere neer that number of minutes.
[10:35] <goonies> i do have the infamous wusb54g adapter
[10:35] <goonies> which took me hours to get it to work
[10:35] <Dodzey> PeterPowell even so, i repartioned my whole disk and it only took 2 minutes to repartition
[10:35] <sethk> PeterPowell, so I would assume that something is wrong there.
[10:35] <PeterPowell> :/
[10:35] <PeterPowell> should i stop it
[10:36] <PeterPowell> and restart
[10:36] <sethk> PeterPowell, partitioning only writes a single sector.  Takes seconds
[10:36] <PeterPowell> :/
[10:36] <sethk> it is making the file system that takes time, not partitioning
[10:36] <Dodzey> how longs it been going?
[10:36] <Dodzey> just started?
[10:36] <sethk> however, a newbie doing an install may not distinguish between the two.
[10:36] <PeterPowell> 20 mins
[10:36] <micahcowan> sethk, yes, but isn't that part of most people's conception of "partitioning"?
[10:36] <sethk> micahcowan, I hope not.
[10:36] <PeterPowell> it changed from 5 mins
[10:37] <Dodzey> i'd reboot, unless it looks like it's actually working quickly, it might be just a crazy estimate
[10:37] <sethk> PeterPowell, no way it should take anywhere near that long
[10:37] <PeterPowell> ok
[10:37] <PeterPowell> so i restart
[10:37] <PeterPowell> yes? or no?
[10:37] <Dodzey> unless you want it to finish in 5 hours time i would yes
[10:37] <sethk> PeterPowell, I would, yes.  how big is the partition?
[10:37] <PeterPowell> err
[10:37] <ucordes> FurryNemesis: well i don't know anything about this gnokii. but i tried to google for your problem and couldn't find anything. only cheap cable offers -_- ^^
[10:37] <Dodzey> like we said, it should only take around 20mins, plus time for partition and format's
[10:37] <PeterPowell> 35gb
[10:38] <PeterPowell> i partitioned by disk 50/50
[10:38] <sethk> PeterPowell, something is wrong.  restart.  you may see the same behavior, though
[10:38] <Dodzey> yeah, reboot
[10:38] <ColdDeath> Yeah, definately something wrong there
[10:38] <sethk> PeterPowell, try it.  if it happens again we'll have to figure out what is going on.
[10:38] <Dodzey> and let us no whats going on after
[10:38] <FurryNemesis> thanks ucordes , I'll keep trying
[10:38] <micahcowan> sethk, well, but during ubuntu installation, the partition manager does in fact make new filesystems when you partition (typically)?
[10:38] <agliodbs> no, this is a new machine, the bios works with the usb
[10:38] <sethk> micahcowan, no, not the partition manager.  the installation program.
[10:38] <agliodbs> the machine doesn't have ps2 ports
[10:38] <ucordes> ok tell me if you found out something
[10:38] <sethk> micahcowan, creating the file systems is a separate step
[10:39] <vianor> i'm trying to install ubuntu on a intel 133 MHz CPU, but it hang on startup with "Uncompressing Linux... OK, booting the kernel." and nothing more, what could be wrong here? Isn't my cpu supported?
[10:39] <PeterPowell> i have 10 cd's
[10:39] <PeterPowell> should i change it
[10:39] <ColdDeath> Just do a disk check, to make sure it isnt faulty
[10:39] <sethk> vianor, should be.  which processor, how much memory?
[10:39] <micahcowan> sethk, true: the next step. I thought it was something handled by the partion manager itself (as most "partition managers" also support filesystem creation). Anyway...
[10:39] <Dodzey> 10 cd's? what for?
[10:39] <PeterPowell> give to friends
[10:40] <ColdDeath> Probably got them from shipit?
[10:40] <PeterPowell> yup
[10:40] <PeterPowell> shipit
[10:40] <ColdDeath> Heh, I did that too
[10:40] <sethk> micahcowan, I've used fdisk, cfdisk, and sfdisk, and none of them support file system creation.
[10:40] <PeterPowell> i have one for mac os still to come
[10:40] <ColdDeath> Only got 5 though ;) I gave a coupel out
[10:40] <PeterPowell> for mt g5
[10:40] <FurryNemesis> sethk, ultimate boot cd?
[10:40] <Dodzey> they send 10? i thought they'dlimit you to 1 or 2
[10:40] <vianor> sethk: intel pentium 133 with 96 MB memory, maybe it isn't enough memory
[10:40] <PeterPowell> no
[10:40] <PeterPowell> max is 10
[10:40] <ucordes> move_: how do i start alltray?
[10:40] <micahcowan> sethk, I don't consider those partition editors: more like disk formatters? I'm thinking more of parted and the like (especially the GUI ones)
[10:41] <micahcowan> sethk, o course, fdisk(1) disagrees with me, now that I look...
[10:41] <ucordes> how to start alltray, anybody?
[10:41] <Dodzey> PeterPowell:started a fresh install?
[10:41] <harrytuttle> hi, on my system "xset q" says that dpms standby, suspend and off are disabled (=0) on my xorg. could someone confirm this is the default? shouldn't it be a bug? i mean, the defaults are 1200, 1800 and 2400 seconds, so says "man xorg.conf"
[10:41] <bagpuss_thecat> hey all
[10:41] <sethk> micahcowan, I can see why it sort of appears that way when you do the gui install, because they sort of mix up partitioning vs. saying which partitions are to be used for what (root file system, swap, etc.)
[10:41] <jayk-> how do i reconfigure my xserver? isnt it something xserver-xorg?
[10:42] <micahcowan> yup
[10:42] <bagpuss_thecat> jayk-: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:42] <Cicero> hello again ;) im at the end of my ideas ...i still cant get the cronjob working here. when i execute the command as user it works
[10:42] <jayk-> thanks
[10:42] <Cicero> but cron seems to ignore it
[10:42] <micahcowan> sethk, plus, I think many partition managers (again, esp. GUI) mix up the terminology as well.
[10:42] <PeterPowell> Dodzey, it is starting up
[10:42] <ardchoille> Cicero: What is the command?
[10:42] <Cicero> ardchoille: /usr/bin/fetchmail -akv -m "/usr/bin/procmail -d %T"
[10:42] <sethk> micahcowan, probably, but that doesn't mean the we should follow them.  :)
[10:42] <micahcowan> forgivable, perhaps, because it's usually what you're going to do with any partitions after you've partitioned 'em...
[10:42] <Cicero> ardchoille: and it works great when i execute it normally
[10:42] <Dodzey> PeterPowell:ok, let us know if it gives you crazy estimates
[10:43] <bagpuss_thecat> I'm trying to add a printer using the CUPS interface on localhost:631, but after selecting the automatically detected printer, and choosing a ppd, it asks me for authorization. Neither my user account nor my root password work... what is the correct one that should work?
[10:43] <PeterPowell> im setting lang and time now
[10:43] <scott> can anyone help me with a media/firefox related question. when for example palying music via flash in a window in firefox, if i then browse in a new tab to a different website or refresh the current page then my music/video stutters in the other tab (in flash etc) while the current page loads. is there an way to avoid it from stuttering?
[10:43] <ColdDeath> PeterPowell: Right, tell us how it goes
[10:43] <YoussefAssad> yep. Don't brose away from the tab with the mdeia
[10:44] <sethk> scott, possibly you coudl set up quotas for how much bandwidth a single connection can use, but I think on average it would be more annoying then helpful.
[10:44] <sethk> scott, you would be slowing down every access, to fix the case where something is streaming.
[10:44] <scott> its not bandwidth related, more likely cpu time taken up causing the stuttering
[10:44] <sethk> scott, unlikely
[10:44] <sethk> scott, why would you assume that?
[10:44] <Cicero> ardchoille: and i can see that cron is working on my system ..cause it fills entrys into my /var/log/syslog file
[10:45] <scott> because what im streaming is very low bandwidth, i have an 8mb connection and its 64kb audio
[10:45] <Cicero> ardchoille: it also shows entrys when i edit the crontab user file
[10:45] <PeterPowell> wiping of the old one...
[10:45] <sethk> scott, doesn't compute.  If a new connection is downloading at maximum speed, it is going to crowd out other packets.
[10:45] <nu> How do i create a new folder on the desktop? (xfce)
[10:46] <wotdu> xfce doesn't have a desktop
[10:46] <nu> i can tbelieve i just asked htat question
[10:46] <nu> ok
[10:46] <sethk> scott, try increasing your streaming buffers.  if it behaves exactly the same way, then you may be right, but I'd be surprised.
[10:46] <nu> how do i create a new fodler
[10:46] <nu> folder*
[10:46] <scott> sethk, i KNOW bandwidth isnt a problem as ive done this in windows with the exact same files etc, so i can 100% garuntee bandwidth isnt the issue
[10:46] <wotdu> you don't nu
[10:46] <bagpuss_thecat> oh yeah, teh cups interface is disabled in ubuntu
[10:46] <wotdu> cos xfce doesn't support that
[10:46] <sethk> scott, no, that again is not correct reasoning
[10:46] <nu> why not?
[10:46] <bagpuss_thecat> one way to confuse a debian whore...
[10:46] <ardchoille> nu: on command line, it's: mkdir
[10:46] <Dodzey> scott, i hear you, i have the same problem but in windows it doesnt happen
[10:46] <wotdu> nu, ask xfce developers
[10:46] <sethk> scott, all that proves is that windows may be slower in bringing up the web page.
[10:46] <wotdu> it's supposed to be lightweight
[10:46] <wotdu> maybe you want to use gnome
[10:47] <nu> wotdu: lol
[10:47] <sethk> scott, in fact, your argument proves that it is not a CPU issue, at least just as much as it proves anything about bandwidth
[10:47] <nu> ardchoille: thank you
[10:47] <aujordanh> i have screwed up my /etc/network/interfaces file trying to get wireless to work at startup http://rafb.net/paste/results/mFgg3O86.html
[10:47] <TooDamFast> how do i get my screen back to normal after playing a game with out restarting?
[10:47] <aujordanh> anyone got suggestions?
[10:47] <Sir_Fawnpug> I'm written a program that listens on INADDR_ANY:1024, but for some reason,  netstat -tl won't list it. Does anybody know why this might be the case?
[10:47] <scott> how so? my argument is that firefox hogs all cpu time to render current page, when its enaring finishing of rendering my music suddenly pops back in and stops stuttering
[10:47] <scott> that would seem to support my theory of cpu hogging
[10:48] <sethk> scott, not at all.  why wouldn't firefox, or whichever browser, running in windows not do exactly the same thing?
[10:48] <PeterPowell> firefox has some bad bugs
[10:48] <sethk> scott, why do you assume it is rendering, and not downloading?
[10:48] <scott> also add to the mix that my mouse pointer goes stuttery/non moveable for a few seconds while rendering
[10:48] <PeterPowell> still the best browser i seen though
[10:48] <nu> ok guys, noob question #2: my font looks a little funky in firefox. anyone else gets this?
[10:48] <userundefine> nu, no.  give a screenshit.
[10:49] <userundefine> *screenshot
[10:49] <bit_doidao> nu, try installing the ms fonts
[10:49] <Tamale> scott:  See if you have the same problems while downloading a large file.
[10:49] <nu> userundefine: ok hold on one second
[10:49] <scott> Tamale, will do, will try now
[10:49] <sethk> Tamale, good idea
[10:49] <bit_doidao> nu, some webmasters reference this fonts for the default font of theis websites
[10:49] <ozzloy> how do i install bugzilla on ubuntu 6.06?
language > userundefine
[10:49] <micahcowan> :-)
[10:49] <jayk-> i keep getting "No screens found" after i ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:49] <jayk-> any ideas?
[10:50] <ozzloy> my google foo fails me
[10:50] <scott> downloading slackware iso as we speak whilist playing music and its fine....again, leads me to believe it isnt bandwidth ;)
[10:50] <nu> dont know how to take a screenshot =(
[10:50] <nu> bit_doidao: how do i install ms fonts? just bring them from windows?
[10:50] <Dodzey> on a semi-related note, does anyones flash audio just die on them for no apparent reason?
[10:50] <userundefine> nu, hit print screen button
[10:50] <nu> userundefine: it doesn't work. im using xfce
[10:50] <Dodzey>  i have to restart browser and faff around to get audio back
[10:50] <nu> it worked in gnome
[10:50] <userundefine> nu, ah...
[10:50] <nu> but not here
[10:50] <sethk> scott, you may be right, but unless you know that it would download more quickly if the music were not streaming, you haven't really proved much.
[10:51] <micahcowan> user-land, wow, I didn't know that: I just knew about the one in accessories. Thanks!
[10:51] <micahcowan> *userdefine, not user-land. Sorry
[10:51] <Magnus-swe> Im the first to add failover / loadbalancing to an isc dhcpd gui... im telling you, its taken 4 days already... 70-80 something hours
[10:51] <Magnus-swe> of coding
[10:51] <sethk> scott, many distro download sites provide data rather slowly
[10:51] <Tamale> scott:  Is it local music or streamed music?
[10:51] <micahcowan> Gah! userundefine.
[10:51] <userundefine> micahcowan, yw
[10:51] <Magnus-swe> gdb: lol
[10:51] <scott> sethk, i dotn think you properly understand what im saying, after the first run of a song im listening too, it is cached...i can play it even if i disconnect from net, yet it still stutters when browsing another page on another tab/window
[10:51] <Magnus-swe> gdb: You rule :)
[10:51] <gdb> lol
[10:51] <bit_doidao> nu, gnome-screenshot
[10:51] <scott> Tamale, streamed, but its the same with mplayer-plugin, flash etc
[10:52] <Tamale> scott:  That doesn't mean that networking can't be the culprit
[10:52] <nu> bit_doidao: didn't work
[10:52] <sethk> scott, well, you didn't say anything about caching.  Unless you are playing it from a local source I doubt the entire thing is cached.
[10:52] <Tamale> have you tried  multiple music players?
[10:52] <nu> bit_doidao: i am not using gnome. using xfce
[10:52] <sethk> scott, try a different browser, see if the results change.
[10:52] <TheGame> if i do sudo apt-get update does it check for a new nvidia driver
[10:52] <scott> someone kick me? :(
[10:52] <Tamale> name conflict
[10:52] <Magnus-swe> gdb: you should only know how much time ive spent to kill m$ and instead make something that works
[10:53] <sethk> scott, not me.
[10:53] <Tamale> (15:52:35) scott left the room (quit: Nick collision from services.).
[10:53] <Tamale> haha
[10:53] <Dodzey> and again
[10:53] <userundefine> TheGame, yes, if you already have them installed.
[10:53] <Magnus-swe> gdb: We have this now almost
[10:53] <Tamale> you need a more unique nickname.
[10:53] <Dodzey> change your nick
[10:53] <h3sp4wn> TheGame: there hasn't been a new one released since dapper
[10:53] <TheGame> scott get a new nickname
[10:53] <gdb> nu: in a command terminal, run "xwd -root > screenshot.xwd" and then install the "imagemagick" package and run "convert screenshot.xwd screenshot.jpg" and supply that to whomever asked for it.
[10:53] <qwerty2k> kk
[10:53] <sethk> qwerty2k, that's better
[10:53] <TheGame> my nvidia drvier is causing problems
[10:53] <TheGame> but i dont want to disable cuz i like xgl
[10:53] <Tamale> qwerty2k: try different combinations of music players / browser
[10:54] <gdb> or png or gif or whatever your preferred format other than jpg
[10:54] <micahcowan> registering with freenode would fix collision problems, no?
[10:54] <qwerty2k> Tamale, its streaming through flash via firefox
[10:54] <jvaughn> hello, is there a guide on re-compiling the kernel "the ubuntu way"   I know how to do it manually.. but I saw someone explain a different approach with ubuntu
[10:54] <sethk> qwerty2k, one thing I've found is that firefox at times chews up cpu, and if you restart firefox it stops doing it.
[10:54] <gdb> jvaughn: It's identical to "the Debian way" if you've found the kpackage documentation somewhere.
[10:54] <Tamale> qwerty2k: how fast is your processor?
[10:54] <jvaughn> gdb: ok great
[10:54] <qwerty2k> Tamale, 2.4gig p4
[10:54] <micahcowan> !kernel
[10:54] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:54] <nu> gdb: when i did "xwd -root > screenshot.xw" it beeped twice but nothing happened
[10:54] <sethk> qwerty2k, I'm not sure exactly what type of data causes this problem but I've seen it several times.
[10:54] <jvaughn> thanks micahcowan
[10:54] <gdb> nu: It took a screenshot.
[10:54] <qwerty2k> sethk, :(
[10:54] <sethk> qwerty2k, if restarting firefox doesn't change the behavior, then this isn't relevant
[10:55] <Tamale> qwerty2k: I don't think flash is very well supported under linux.
[10:55] <qwerty2k> it happens every time i run firefox
[10:55] <Tamale> qwerty2k: i don't know with any amount of certainty, but it feels very buggy
[10:55] <qwerty2k> same thing happens when playing video with mplayer-plugin
[10:55] <sethk> qwerty2k, does top show 100% cpu usage when this is happening?
[10:55] <chriss_> salut
[10:55] <qwerty2k> will look
[10:55] <gdb> nu: Now install imagemagick and use the convert command to convert that x window dump format image into something people can actually use like jpg or png or gif or whatever.
[10:55] <micahcowan> Tamale, qwerty2k, it's pretty well supported, but proprietary, so we can't fix bugs in it. Also, the very latest versions aren't available, so some sites are inaccessible.
[10:55] <TheGame> how do i change my refresh rate
[10:55] <Magnus-swe> jvaughn: ignore any distribution specific way and youll be fine... Ignore any "extra version" and just do it NIKE!  and youll need the grub/lilo configuration addition
[10:55] <TheGame> do i do it in xorg?
[10:56] <sethk> qwerty2k, you can lower the priority of the firefox process
[10:56] <Magnus-swe> jvaughn: Btw: "Thanks J"
[10:56] <ozzloy> how do i install bugzilla on ubuntu 6.06?  can't find it on google
[10:56] <Evil_Ed`> hey
[10:56] <nu> gdb: thanks
[10:56] <Evil_Ed`> interest
[10:56] <micahcowan> TheGame,  System > Preferences > Screen Resolution has it.
[10:56] <sethk> qwerty2k, see what effect this has
[10:56] <Feral_Kid> I am having some issues with getting the bcm4xx (AirForce One) wifi card working.... When I boot, network-manager attempts to connect... When I do a iwconfig, it shows the access point... After a few minutes, the wifi indicator starts blinking and iwconfig doesn't give me any indicator that the interface is working...
[10:56] <Magnus-swe> jvaughn: Appreciate it to the point of survival
[10:56] <gdb> nu: sure thing -- there may be some other method in xfce for taking screenshots, but I don't know it.  the method i gave you, while involved, will work anywhere
[10:56] <qwerty2k> sethk, i gave it nice-4 no difference, on normal (0) it uses 50% processor
[10:56] <TheGame> is 75hz best for 1280x1024
[10:57] <qwerty2k> (at 50% thats when my system semi freezes while it does its stuff)
[10:57] <Tamale> micahcowan: I don't see how you can say "very well supported" and "proprietary"  in the same sentence ;)
[10:57] <TheGame> or is 60hz better
[10:57] <rki> TheGame, no ash high as possible is best
[10:57] <Chousuke> TheGame: the more the better. :P
[10:57] <nu> gdb: imagemagick will take up 141mb
[10:57] <TheGame> hmm
[10:57] <gdb> nu: :-(
[10:57] <nu> gdb: thats alot lol
[10:57] <micahcowan> Tamale, fair enough. :-)
[10:57] <Chousuke> as long as your monitor can handle it.
[10:57] <TheGame> im having a problem with java apps
[10:57] <TheGame> and its because of the nvidia driver
[10:58] <h3sp4wn> TheGame: No its more likely to be because of xgl
[10:58] <Tamale> my monitor runs at 10,000 hz
[10:58] <ucordes> anyody knows a good file transfer manager for XChat?
[10:58] <gdb> nu: Perhaps xfce will have some image viewer that can convert it.
[10:58] <sethk> qwerty2k, that proves that it isn't a cpu issue.  has to be some other resource
[10:58] <nu> gdb:  thanks though. In gnome, i just pressed the print src key and it took one
[10:58] <Chousuke> 60Hz is usually too low.. 75Hz is the bare minimum I can stand to use.
[10:58] <TheGame> hmm
[10:58] <nu> i widh it was that easy
[10:58] <micahcowan> TheGame, I tend to use 75khz
[10:58] <micahcowan> Tamale, really? what resolution?
[10:58] <gdb> nu: You might try to open it using the XFCE file browser, see what app it opens with, and then try to Save As to convert it.
[10:58] <CokeNCode> hey guys, question, is it possible to get gaim to open up my email like msn messenger does ?
[10:58] <qwerty2k> sethk, went up to 89% that time :(
[10:58] <TheGame> so how do i disable xgl real quick
[10:58] <Magnus-swe> jvaughn: If anyone is beeing rotten to the core.. tell us, "drunken monkeys" ;)
[10:58] <Dodzey> I use 1280x1024 @ 75hz
[10:58] <Tamale> micahcowan: 38287267x4728472
[10:58] <h3sp4wn> I use 60hz (because my lcd panel works optimally at that resolution - no need for more than 60 with an lcd panel
[10:59] <gdb> h3sp4wn: It's meaningless, anyway.
[10:59] <micahcowan> Ah. Multiple-display "monitor"?
[10:59] <gdb> h3sp4wn: LCDs do not have refresh rates.
[10:59] <TheGame> ya they do
[10:59] <gdb> TheGame: No, they don't.
[10:59] <TheGame> hmm
[10:59] <micahcowan> gdb, yeah they do.
[10:59] <AngryElf> how can i find out what process is using /dev/dsp?
[10:59] <gdb> No, they don't.
[10:59] <h3sp4wn> gdb: The picture looks worse if I set it to 75hz
[10:59] <sethk> qwerty2k, well, that's more interesting.  I would expect it to peg cpu at 100%.  try a more dramatic change with nice.
[10:59] <TheGame> is there a command to stop xgl
[10:59] <qwerty2k> sethk, ive tried -15 as well, no change
[10:59] <micahcowan> gdb, it's in terms of the signal sent to it via the cable.
[11:00] <ColdDeath> PeterPowell: Is the install working now?
[11:00] <nu> =D
[11:00] <sethk> qwerty2k, try increasing the priority of the player process
[11:00] <Dodzey> the most important factor of a LCD is the number of milliseconds it takes to redraw the screen
[11:00] <nu> bit_doidao: are you still here bit?
[11:00] <micahcowan> the monitor of course doesn't actually need to deal with syncing an el gun...
[11:00] <Tamale> micahcowan: yes, 283290 monitors  lol
[11:00] <qwerty2k> sethk, it isnt in my list since its a plugin for firefox....
[11:01] <gdb> nu: did that work to get it converted?
[11:01] <micahcowan> Tamale, holy something. What's that setup for?
[11:01] <sethk> qwerty2k, use a player instead of a plugin
[11:01] <Tamale> micahcowan: I'm yankin your chain dude.
[11:01] <nu> gdb: i haven't tried yet. but bit_doidao suggested i install ms fonts to fix the font problem in firefox
[11:01] <Tamale> micahcowan: all the way back from 10,000 hz
[11:01] <qwerty2k> i cant....its streaming through flash....
[11:01] <gdb> nu: what's wrong with your fonts in firefox?
[11:01] <nu> gdb: i was wondering what he meant. just bring them from windows?
[11:01] <nu> gdb: they look a little weird. just a little
[11:02] <Dodzey> i have a problem with flash in firefox (and flock)... I have no sound
[11:02] <nu> gdb: especially the links
[11:02] <gdb> nu: no, he means enable the multiverse respository and install the package msttcorefonts
[11:02] <micahcowan> Tamale, I suspected.
[11:02] <micahcowan> :-)
[11:02] <nu> How do i enable multiverse, gdb
[11:02] <micahcowan> But you said 10,000 hz, which is probably about what the old monochrome CRTs were doing (I have no clue)
[11:02] <Tamale> qwerty2k, sethk,  If his CPU really is spiking to 100%, chances are whatever's monitoring the firefox usage won't accurately report how much firefox is taking.
[11:03] <micahcowan> And, a large multi-monitor setup'd probably do a good deal less than that. :-)
[11:03] <Tamale> micahcowan: actually high refresh rates are new
[11:03] <qwerty2k> Tamale, is it worth trying say swiftfox? or opera?
[11:03] <gjoogjoob> hello\
[11:03] <Tamale> micahcowan: old CRTs were slow
[11:03] <LnxSlck> bit_doidao: are u brasilian ?
[11:03] <gjoogjoob> I have a problem setting up my wireless network
[11:03] <Tamale> qwerty2k: absolutely.  give opera a try
[11:03] <gjoogjoob> it just like, doesn't work
[11:03] <LnxSlck> qwerty2k: try mozilla or seamonkey
[11:03] <nemlah> Hello all.. i just upgraded and got a libpango package.. where can i see why the update occured..??
[11:03] <micahcowan> micahcowan, but they /had/ refresh rates. I just don't know what they /were/.
[11:03] <micahcowan> *Tamale
[11:03] <SkaFreak> Yeah, I'm personally a big fan of opera
[11:04] <gdb> nu: You can use the System > Administration > Software Properties control panel to do that, assuming XFCE provides similar menu structure.
[11:04] <nemlah> could it be a mem leak fix?
[11:04] <gjoogjoob> I enter in the ESSID and password info, but it doesn't connect
[11:04] <qwerty2k> installing opera first. see if that works
[11:04] <micahcowan> oh, and I read that as a couple thousand monitors, not as a couple hundred thousand... :-)
[11:04] <gdb> nu: Ah, looks like "sudo software-properties" should work, too.
[11:04] <Dodzey> gjoogjoob: make sure you have the WPA (hex or string) set right
[11:05] <nu> gdb: thank you, will try
[11:05] <gjoogjoob> i do
[11:05] <qwerty2k> ubuntu repo's are being well slow recently :(
[11:05] <gdb> nu: I have a file called multiverse.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d instead.  I prefer this method to editing /etc/apt/sources.list personally.
[11:05] <Tamale> is there any way to get semi-decent speeds with 3D applications when running XGL / compiz?
[11:05] <Tamale> or is that just the nature of the beast?
[11:05] <gjoogjoob> the password is correct
[11:05] <gdb> nu: Actually, hang on a second.
[11:05] <Dodzey> gjoogjoob:sure you haven't set it as string when it might be hex?
[11:05] <nu> gdb: ok
[11:06] <gjoogjoob> I'm not sure
[11:06] <gjoogjoob> I'll try that
[11:06] <gdb> I'm going to pastebin a couple *.list files you can put in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory.
[11:06] <qwerty2k> Tamale, launch the 3d app in a new xwindow (i think that wot you do), there is a thnigy on ubuntu about it then you get full good 3d performance
[11:06] <Dodzey> gjoogjoob: if its on Plain ASCII just try Hexidecimal, i did that the first time, set the wrong one
[11:06] <goonies> my wireless connection seems to drop every 15 minutes, can someone help me figure out the problem
[11:06] <ucordes> anybody knows an easy way to check if a dvb-t usb works propper?
[11:07] <ucordes> goonies: you allready checked if you have a stable signal?
[11:07] <gdb> nu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19721
[11:07] <goonies> ucordes, how do u check that
[11:07] <niruana> hi all, does Ubuntu come with madwifi drivers if i have a atheros wifi card?
[11:07] <goonies> well network manager rates it at 100% if thats what u mean
[11:08] <qwerty2k> in opera i get a slight sound blip but not half as bad as i did with firefox
[11:08] <gdb> nu: Cut and paste those files into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/multiverse.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/universe.list then run apt-get update and then apt-get install msttcorefonts
[11:08] <goonies> this works flawless in windows
[11:08] <gdb> nu: it will install 2 packages, msttcorefonts and cabextract.
[11:08] <ucordes> goonies: you should have a fancy green bar, top right that shows your wireless status. click on it to get more info
[11:08] <nu> gdb: will do. give me a sec
[11:08] <goonies> i dont have a fany green bar =P
[11:09] <goonies> fancy*
[11:09] <goonies> what did u install to get it
[11:09] <niruana> hi all, does Ubuntu come with madwifi drivers if i have a atheros wifi card?
[11:09] <nu> gdb:  so i just copy that whole thing and paste into those two files?
[11:09] <azureal> lo, trying to get a horrible graphics card working... in lscpi it says it's an intel 915gm... any ideas for drivers?
[11:09] <ucordes> goonies: you can also check it out in console: iwlist eth0 scan <- where eth0 is your network interface
[11:09] <nu> niruana: if you have atheros, it will autodetect it for you
[11:10] <azureal> (at least trying to get its acceleration working)
[11:10] <goonies> ok
[11:10] <nu> niruana: no need to use madwifi or ndiswrapper
[11:10] <sethk> azureal, the normal install will choose the correct drivers for that video chipset
[11:10] <azureal> sethk: they're not good ennough
[11:10] <niruana> ok so the ubuntu drivers work with airplay and airdump nu  ?
[11:10] <azureal> enough*
[11:10] <h3sp4wn> niruana: You may want madwifi-ng (or 0.92) its much better
[11:10] <niruana> ok h3sp4wn
[11:10] <niruana> i'l install it then
[11:10] <nu> niruana: idont know.
[11:10] <niruana> thx
[11:11] <ucordes> goonies: nothing it was there out of the box. just right click your panel and click add to panel. you should see network monitor
[11:11] <nu> gdb: you there?
[11:11] <goonies> ucordes, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19722
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> niruana: Just use wext if you are going to setup wpa_supplicant
[11:11] <Dodzey> any ideas how to fix the fact that i have no sound in flash videos
[11:11] <azureal> sethk: transparency craps out
[11:11] <goonies> ucordes, its at 100%
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> Dodzey: aoss /usr/bin/firefox
[11:12] <ucordes> goonies: permanently?
[11:12] <niruana> hmm h3sp4wn  i was still not able to make WPA working on Ubuntu...
[11:12] <goonies> yeah
[11:12] <goonies> doesnt move
[11:12] <goonies> which is probaly wrong
[11:12] <nu> niruana: do you have atheros chipset?
[11:12] <goonies> but i know my wireless adapter works flawlessly on windows
[11:12] <niruana> yes
[11:12] <niruana> yes nu
[11:12] <h3sp4wn> niruana: /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes (works perfectly if you just follow the instructions there)
[11:12] <Dodzey> h3sp4wn:will I have to install alsa-oss package?
[11:12] <goonies> same position its at
[11:13] <benjaminwr> hi has anyone tried to connect a usb drive after installing ifs on windows to access linux partitions??
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> Dodzey: yes
[11:13] <nu> niruana: type iwconfig and see if its assigned to ath0
[11:13] <niruana> its assigned...
[11:13] <niruana> and it works
[11:13] <nu> niruana: does it show the access point name?
[11:13] <bit_doidao> nu, sudo apt-get install gnome-screenshot
[11:13] <sethk> azrael0, that's really odd, but I'm not sure it's a driver issue
[11:13] <nu> bit_doidao: thank you!!!
[11:14] <niruana> h3sp4wn:  what is wext?
[11:14] <timhaughton> Question: When I add a Windows share to Gnome, it adds a link on my desktop. Anyone know how to get rid of them? I still want to have the shares mounted, I just think it's OK for them to be listed in Nautilus.
[11:14] <ucordes> goonies: ok then your interface does not support signal quality then.
[11:14] <benjaminwr> hi has anyone tried to connect a usb drive after installing ifs on windows to access linux partitions??
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> niruana: Oh and don't try to use networkmanager because it will make your connection unreliable (unless you use madwifi-ng and rebuild wpa_supplicant - with the madwifi-ng headers)
[11:14] <ucordes> goonies: may i ask what your ap is? you in a college or something?
[11:14] <goonies> ap?
[11:14] <goonies> whats ap
[11:14] <Dodzey> h3sp4wn: so can i change the dsp in /etc/firefox/firefoxrc to use aoss?
[11:14] <goonies> im not in college
[11:14] <goonies> im at home
[11:15] <ucordes> ap is access point
[11:15] <goonies> linksys wrt54gs
[11:15] <ucordes> you the only user which connects through this wireless?
[11:15] <goonies> if thats what u mean
[11:15] <ucordes> yes
[11:15] <gdb> nu: yeah, back, sorry
[11:15] <goonies> at the moment i am
[11:15] <fdsd> does anyone here use bittorrent?
[11:15] <gdb> nu: did that work for you?
[11:15] <fdsd> -curses?
[11:15] <goonies> but no im not the only user
[11:15] <h3sp4wn> Dodzey: Not as far as I know its a hack
[11:15] <azureal> hmm... about sound... why is it that while playing music, a flash (for example) on firefox will not have sound?
[11:15] <lakcaj> Hi.  How can I get rid of the tab completion that ubuntu has setup, and just use default tab completion?
[11:15] <goonies> another computer which is off at the moment connects to it as well
[11:16] <azureal> i've seen this happen before... when more than one prog demands sound...
[11:16] <wheels3572> what is the nm-applet?
[11:16] <Dodzey> h3sp4wn: agh, it doesnt work anyway
[11:16] <ucordes> fdsd: i'm using the ktorrent client
[11:16] <gdb> nu: no, you can tell where the files begin and end by looking for the command lines where i displayed them
[11:16] <ucordes> goonies: did you install any driver for your interface?
[11:16] <benjaminwr> hi has anyone tried to connect a usb drive after installing ifs on windows to access linux partitions??
[11:16] <gdb> cbell@demeter:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/multiverse.list
[11:16] <gdb> is a command line
[11:16] <fdsd> ucordes, any good?
[11:16] <goonies> ndiswrapper 1.21 and the latest xp linksys driver
[11:17] <benjaminwr> im trying to migrate to ext3 from ntfs but i need to make the backup and windows just creates a dummy drive
[11:17] <nu> gdb: i haven't done it yet. i copy and paste that (without your command line prompt) into those two files you told me, right? and if so, so i replace it or just add on to it?
[11:17] <ucordes> fdsd: works great for me
[11:17] <gdb> nu: ?
[11:17] <sethk> azrael0, usually because a sound server is not running.  the sound server allows multiple apps to use sound at the same time
[11:17] <goonies> benjaminwr, u can read/write to ntfs now on nix =P
[11:17] <goonies> just in case u didnt know
[11:17] <mumbles> ok - i am having problems installing ubuntu dapper.
[11:17] <benjaminwr> is it stable?
[11:17] <azureal> sethk: i'm azureal, but ok
[11:17] <gdb> nu: The one for multiverse.list goes in a file called "multiverse.list" in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[11:17] <goonies> stable for me
[11:17] <goonies> =)
[11:17] <Macskeeball> Would someone using Ubuntu Server 6.06 who has not changed the UID of the non-root user account setup during install please tell me what number they get when they enter: echo $UID
[11:17] <gdb> nu: The one for universe.list goes in a file called "universe.list" in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[11:17] <goonies> i havent had any problems
[11:17] <goonies> back to my wireless =P
[11:17] <benjaminwr> i have all my uni work on there and wouldnd like to loose it
[11:18] <azureal> sethk: so how do you run "the sound server"
[11:18] <goonies> well if its a production machine and ur scared of using beta dont do it
[11:18] <Niall> hey guys have just installed an ati driver of some sorts and looking for a way to restore my previous config
[11:18] <ucordes> yea
[11:18] <goonies> but it has worked perfectly for those who have tried it so far
[11:18] <benjaminwr> apart from the fact that I am really stating to hate goin into windows to do anything apart from gaming
[11:18] <nu> gdb: so copy and paste into universe.list. got it
[11:18] <benjaminwr> id rather have things linux native but thebugger wont read
[11:18] <Dodzey> h3sp4wn: works, my mistake, also if edit the FIREFOX_DSP="none" to FIREFOX_DSP="aoss" it permantly fixes it so i dont have to use the aoss <command>
[11:18] <aujordanh> my wireless will not connect on startup, would someone mind taking a look at my /etc/network/interfaces
[11:18] <DarkAudit> What in KDE would cause my font settings in GNOME to be ignored?
[11:19] <ucordes> i don't know what's the matter with your conenction. the problem is we can't say wether you got any signal problems cause of ndiswrapper
[11:19] <nu> gdb: replace my universe.list with that, or add that onto my current universe.list?
[11:19] <goonies> benjaminwr, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs-3g
[11:19] <soumyadip> I'm getting this error when I try to install or remove packages using apt : dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `hplip' in statoverride file
[11:19] <soumyadip> how do I rectify this ?
[11:19] <gdb> nu: You  have a universe.list file already?
[11:19] <nu> Ill check
[11:19] <niruana> h3sp4wn:  could you look in your pm ?
[11:19] <goonies> ucordes, well i can tell what my signal strength is on windows =\
[11:19] <benjaminwr> ill have a llok at it thanks im goint to give it another try
[11:19] <goonies> is it a linux thing =\
[11:19] <mumbles> anyone else having problems installing ubuntu ?
[11:19] <gdb> nu: There shouldn't be anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d on a default installation.
[11:19] <ucordes> goonies: so you gotta know wether you get a stable signal or not
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> niruana: Don't appear to have any
[11:19] <benjaminwr> i can't detect my usb drive in ubuntu
[11:19] <wheels3572> what is the nm-applet?
[11:19] <Niall> can anyone tell me a way of getting my X  display working again
[11:19] <goonies> i cant even update without it stalling
[11:19] <nu> gdb: youre right, there isnt
[11:20] <benjaminwr> but i know other usb drives are detected
[11:20] <gdb> nu: You should be creating new files here, yes.
[11:20] <nu> gdb: but it wont let me create one either
[11:20] <goonies> ucordes, i see
[11:20] <gdb> nu: You need to do this as root with sudo -i or something.
[11:20] <benjaminwr> how could i probe to see if the system has detected something?
[11:20] <iskander> Hi
[11:20] <gdb> nu: as in 'sudo -i' and then run the commands.
[11:20] <nu> so do it all through terminal huh
[11:20] <gdb> nu: alternatively, you can create these 2 files on your desktop, and then use sudo to move them into place.
[11:21] <nu> gdb: will do that.
[11:21] <goonies> only way to have it connect again is by unplugging adapter and plugging it again
[11:21] <gdb> nu: like "sudo cp Desktop/*.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[11:21] <nu> gdb: brb soon to tell you how it went
[11:21] <gdb> nu: han gon
[11:21] <gdb> er hang on
[11:21] <niruana> h3sp4wn:  could you please join the channel #bleh
[11:21] <Macskeeball> never mind. I found out that Ubuntu's default UID is 1000 with a search. Now I can revert back Thanks anyway.
[11:21] <gdb> nu: one last thing, be sure you're putting the files in the directory sources.list.d and NOT overwriting the file sources.list
[11:21] <ucordes> goonies: so all 15 minutes you replug your usb stick?
 are u here man
[11:22] <goonies> on a as needed basis
[11:22] <goonies> yeah
[11:22] <goonies> i wouldnt say exactly every 15 minutes
[11:22] <goonies> every now and then it just disconnects
[11:22] <goonies> bar turns yellow
[11:22] <goonies> and it says disconnected
[11:22] <bobbyd> hi
[11:22] <bobbyd> where do I find the network install iso
[11:23] <niruana> h3sp4wn:  could you please join the channel #bleh, because a pm isnt allowed on this irc server
[11:23] <gdb> niruana: it is allowed, you simply need to register your nick
[11:23] <nu> gdb: ok i copied it there
[11:24] <TheEye> help!!!!!
[11:24] <gdb> nu: so you have 2 files named multiverse.list and one named universe.list?
[11:24] <keiaah> Whats up with the servers? I am using this repo http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources. And my download rate is about 50 kb/s. Usually its over 800 kb/s. Anyone else having this problem?
[11:24] <h3sp4wn> niruana: I don't agree with doing that because it ends up with people asking me every single little thing (and not attempting to solve the issue themselves) I don't mind helping people help themselves but won't do that sort of stuff (except for money)
[11:24] <gdb> nu: could you tell which information went in which file from the pastebin I put up?
[11:24] <TheEye> ok i have a pppoe issue
[11:24] <ucordes> goonies: you know what chipset your interface is? how far is ap from it?
[11:24] <Paddy_EIRE> does anyone know a quick way of  restoring original ati driver in ubuntu
[11:24] <nu> gdb: hold one one second. i have universe.list, which contains the content in that link you showed me a while back
[11:25] <nu> gdb: sorry if im doing it wrong, im new to linux
[11:25] <gdb> nu: ...
[11:25] <gdb> nu: ok, hang on, i'll post them separately
[11:25] <nu> gdb: lol okay
[11:25] <goonies> ucordes, uhm, rt2500usb, about 20 feet
[11:25] <Lars_G> Greetings all
[11:25] <goonies> 1 wall
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> Paddy_EIRE: sudo aptitude purge fglrx~i
[11:26] <Lars_G> if I have the sources to build several packages, is there any way to build only one of the subpackages with dpkg-buildpackage????
[11:26] <TheEye> i run ubuntu off the live cd on a ppc i got it to connect to the inet using my usb port and my highspeed connection how ever my 808.11b card isnt there like ubuntu wont reconizze it n e ideas??
 cheers mate
[11:26] <ucordes> well signal should be fine then
[11:26] <tzard> anyone know of a couple ways to keep Xorg from tying up cpu resources?
[11:26] <gdb> nu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19724 - the entire contents of universe.list
[11:26] <wheels3572> How can I tell if I have the nm applet in Xubuntu?
[11:26] <ucordes> or maybe you can some kind of intergalactic interfernce on 2,4ghz or something ^^
[11:26] <ucordes> have
[11:26] <gdb> nu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19725 - the entire contents of multiverse.list
[11:27] <goonies> ucordes, on windows it works flawlessly
[11:27] <nu> gdb: ok. give me one sec. doing it now
[11:27] <TheEye> oh and ne one got a compiled copy pof xchat i cant get it to compile and i with out an ubunclue
[11:27] <gdb> nu: You can just click "download" at the top of each of those posts and save the file with the correct name.
[11:27] <h3sp4wn> Paddy_EIRE: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/fglrx/ati/i' /etc/X11/xorg.conf (you may or may not need that step)
[11:27] <fiXXXerMet> 'm install Ubuntu on a dual-cpu machine (2x PIII 850s).  What kernel should I choose?  linux-686-smp?  THere's a bunch, but that's the only one that says smp
[11:28] <TheEye> pm me if you can help
 excellent man, gonna try this now
[11:28] <ucordes> goonies: if i knew how you could try to debug your connection and see what happens when the disc. appears. but if you can't even tell what signal quality you have...
[11:28] <DarkAudit> As I was saying before the lag killed me... I'm having trouble getting the Applications font to change in GNOME, and I think it's something to do with me running KDE before I switched over to GNOME
[11:28] <goonies> ucordes, ive just about quit
[11:28] <goonies> thanks for your time and help
[11:28] <goonies> took me all day to get it working
[11:29] <ucordes> goonies: i can't help you then
[11:29] <goonies> now i wont let it take me all night to get it stable
[11:29] <ucordes> hey i know ndiswrapper ;-) can be very crappy...
[11:29] <goonies> i cant believe such a popular name brand like linksys isnt fully supported somehow
[11:29] <ucordes> had to use it to before i switched to an atheros interface
[11:30] <TheEye> i think im gonna try suse
[11:30] <goonies> is there really that many wireless usb adapters out there
[11:30] <Dodzey> goonies, its like any hardware in linux, its not that linux doesnt support it, its that the manufacturers dont support linux ;-)
[11:30] <ucordes> same here for my old broadcom interface... it allways depends on your chipset, not the brand
[11:30] <goonies> i understand that Dodzey
[11:30] <acojlo> any benefit if I use totem-xine?
[11:30] <ucordes> many adapters but not that many chipsets
[11:31] <goonies> =\
[11:31] <goonies> so many people have problems with the usb adapter i have heh
[11:31] <h3sp4wn> The later versions of ndiswrapper (for ra2500) work better than the native drivers for pcmcia
[11:31] <goonies> and some people have got it to be stable and dont tell the world how they did it
[11:31] <ucordes> so you on the good side with ndis
[11:32] <goonies> dont know heh, cant download anything without it stalling
[11:32] <nu> gdb: done
[11:32] <niruana> any idea why ubuntu says: Command make unknown
[11:33] <goonies> got to install build-essentials
[11:33] <goonies> and
[11:33] <goonies> kernel-headers i believe
[11:33] <nu> niruana: you have to install it lol
[11:33] <acojlo> how to specify to totem to use xshm - anyway I do not see picture - just hear sound
[11:33] <gandalfcome> can anyone help me with my ubuntu network problem: I use a static ip on ubuntu 6.06 but linux seems to loose this adress every five minutes and i have to deactivate and then activate the interface. any ideads?
[11:33] <nu> niruana: you can search for 'make' in Syanptic
[11:33] <trogbot> Need help solving Cups/Samba problem w/ptr....any takers?
[11:33] <goonies> lol gandalfcome im going through the same thing
[11:33] <nu> gdb: I did it.
[11:33] <goonies> well not really
[11:33] <niruana> nu: apt-get install make ? :P
[11:34] <goonies> i lose my wireless connection every now and then and cant download crap without it stalling
[11:34] <gandalfcome> what prob do you have?
[11:34] <trogbot> Everthing looks ok config wise...printout goes to printer, but no output?
[11:34] <gandalfcome> no i have a copper connection
[11:34] <niruana> goonies: what router do you have?
[11:34] <nu> niruana: or that too :D
[11:34] <gandalfcome> it seems to just forget my settings
[11:34] <goonies> linksys wrt54gs
[11:34] <gandalfcome> after a few minutes
[11:34] <odla> does anyone know how to link the flashplayer-plugin installed via apt-get with flock?
[11:35] <cdubya> trogbot, just ask. :)
[11:35] <Dodzey> odla: yeah, but i forgot, lol gimme a sec
[11:35] <Dodzey> odla: where have you got flock installed to?
[11:36] <odla> to /opt
[11:36] <micahcowan> gandalfcome what tool do you use to configure your IP, and is it desktop or server?
[11:36] <niruana> /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build: No such file or directoryMakefile.inc:89: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH.  Stop.
[11:36] <niruana> :(
[11:36] <odla> i followed the instructions here http://www.ubuntuos.com/
[11:36] <trogbot> cdubya:  Printer is defined & set to default..test print goes to printer according to cups, but i get no output on printer...any ideas?
[11:36] <odla> it's /opt/flock
[11:36] <cdubya> trogbot, what's the setup?
[11:37] <msikma> Hey guys. Someone has a problem with Ubuntu (locks up during usplash). Which mailing list should I recommend to him?
[11:37] <RobNyc>  I upgraded to edgy which I shouldn't of done. now my X is broken and I want to downgrade to Dapper how can I ?
[11:37] <trogbot> cdubya:  Sorry...in which way...setup that is.
[11:38] <Dodzey> odla:let me just find the file locations
[11:38] <odla> ok
[11:38] <Dodzey> odla:and ill tell you want to link
[11:38] <Dodzey> odla:did you install the flashplugin-nonfree package?
[11:38] <mlehrer> how do i make ubuntu's gnome desktop save the settings?  e.g. where all of the program windows are, and which applications to start next time i log in
[11:38] <odla> yup
[11:38] <mlehrer> in the previous version, there was a checkbox wasn't there
[11:38] <cdubya> trogbot, what kinda printer, what's it hooked up to, did you setup smbpasswd, etc......
[11:39] <clever> what package do i install for a dhcp server/deamon?
[11:39] <odla> i need to soft link java too
[11:39] <trogbot> cdubya:  It's an HP Printer.  I have access to both cups/samba via browser...I spent about a week getting everything set up
[11:39] <Dodzey> odla:ok you want to ln -s  /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so /opt/flock/plugins/
[11:40] <cablesm102> I have a problem with sound it flash.
[11:40] <cablesm102> *sound in flash
[11:40] <cdubya> trogbot, but is the machine it's hooked up to a linux box?
[11:40] <acojlo> synaptics want's to remove 'gnome' when I try to install 'totem-xine' ok?
[11:40] <fiXXXerMet> No matter what kernel I choose, the install fails.  Is there something I can do?
[11:40] <Dodzey> odla: then do the same but change libflashplayer.so for flashplayer.xpt
[11:40] <mlehrer> is it possible to save my desktop settings in ubuntu when i log out
[11:40] <cablesm102> Sound will not work in flash applets. (firefox 1.5)
[11:40] <trogbot> cdubya:  and all was working fine for my win users and myself, then applied updates to Ubuntu and it quit...yes linux.
[11:40] <mlehrer> if you kill esd it might work better
[11:41] <odla> Dodzey: ok great
[11:41] <Dodzey> cablesm102: try running aoss /usr/bin/firefox
[11:41] <clever> yeah now that i think my flash has been deaf also
[11:41] <azureal> bleh...anyone have any ideas about 3d acceleration on an intel chipset graphics card?
[11:41] <azureal> old ubuntu threads dont appear to help =/
[11:41] <odla> Dodzey: that worked :)...any ideas on how to do it with java?
[11:41] <mlehrer> azureal: i had good luck with an i845
[11:41] <Dodzey> odla: yeah, gimme 2 secs
[11:42] <mlehrer> i wouldn't try to play warcraft or anything
[11:42] <cablesm102> I am also having a problem with sound in audacity
[11:42] <odla> Dodzey: np..
[11:42] <mlehrer> but xscreensaver looked ok
[11:42] <cdubya> trogbot, so you've checked your samba setup
[11:42] <tuxtux_> notte a tutti
[11:42] <Dodzey> cablesm102: for that firefox trick you have to have alsa-oss package installed
[11:42] <Ireclan> Okeydokey...
[11:42] <Anderson> Hello all
[11:42] <trogbot> cdubya:  yes, it all looks good as far as i can tell.
[11:42] <Ireclan> I have a bit of a dilemma.
[11:42] <micahcowan> hi
[11:43] <clever> what package do i install for a dhcp server/deamon?
[11:43] <Anderson> micahcowan, how's the weather?
[11:43] <nu> gdb: ?
[11:43] <Ireclan> Ubuntu Dapper Drake will not install.
[11:43] <micahcowan> sunny :)
[11:43] <cablesm102> Dodzey, AOSS returns command not found
[11:43] <Ireclan> It hangs during the second step.
[11:43] <trogbot> cdubya:  it won't even print now from my linux box...even though it sends it to printer.
[11:43] <azureal> mlehrer: according to lspci i have a  intel 915GM, and according to /etc/X11/xorg.conf I have an i810 driver
[11:43] <azureal> an*
[11:43] <Anderson> micahcowan, Sounds nice.  Sunny here as well.
[11:43] <clever> Anderson: i can hear thunder
[11:43] <Plouj> I am trying to install ubuntu amd64 6.06 on /dev/sdc. I chose the "erase the whole disk" option, but it seems that the installer didn't write a boot loader to sdc's MBR. When I try to boot to that disk nothing happens. I don't see any grub.
[11:44] <clever> and i have 6 computers running
[11:44] <Dodzey> odla: depending on what version of java you have it'll be something like...  ln -s  /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so /opt/flock/plugins/
[11:44] <cablesm102> Can someone help me fix audio in Audacity and Flash?
[11:44] <Dodzey> but that folder may be different
[11:44] <gdb> nu: ah good
[11:44] <odla> Dodzey: ok thanks
[11:44] <gdb> nu: did you run apt-get update?
[11:44] <cdubya> trogbot, just a thought, but have you tried removing the printer......closing the print manager, then reopening it and setting it up again?
[11:44] <gdb> nu: as root/
[11:44] <gdb> ?
[11:44] <Dodzey> browse too it, see what your folders are called
[11:44] <trogbot> cdubya:  I've tried deleting, creating new one..re-installing cups/samba, etc...nothing works.
[11:44] <Ireclan> So.....any thoughts?
[11:44] <cdubya> trogbot, hmm....can you get to the shares ok?
[11:44] <nu> gdb: doing it now
[11:44] <Dodzey> cablesm102: install alsa-oss
[11:45] <Dodzey> cablesm102: then aoss will work
[11:45] <trogbot> cdubya:   Which shares u referring to?
[11:45] <Knut> hello
[11:45] <Knut> need help bei config my network
[11:45] <cdubya> trogbot, any shares you are running with samba
[11:45] <Renan_s2> Anybody here knows any program to manage .pdf files?
[11:45] <mint|Alex> adobe acrobat
[11:45] <mint|Alex> lol
[11:45] <odla> Dodzey: thanks
[11:45] <cdubya> trogbot, for example, if you're sharing the user homes
[11:46] <nu> !paste > gdc E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:46] <nu> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:46] <odla> Dodzey: oh wait...flock crashes immediately
[11:46] <xsimo> apple allow you to create pdf files
[11:46] <micahcowan> Renan_s2, define "manage"? For viewing, xpdf is actually my favorite. lame interface, but still the best IMO
[11:46] <Renan_s2> mint|Alex, I want to manage them (i.e. sort by type/author/date/whatever)
[11:46] <Dodzey> odla:ohh
[11:46] <nu> oops
[11:46] <Ireclan> None?
[11:46] <gdb> nu: that's with 'sudo apt-get update'?
[11:46] <Renan_s2> micahcowan, manage = sort by author/date/subject/...
[11:46] <trogbot> cdubya: The only share I have is the printer...trying to get away from windoz, but need to support printing for my win users.
[11:46] <Ireclan> Whatsoever?
[11:46] <nu> yes. it seemed to have downloaded everything
[11:46] <Dodzey> odla:strange that....but it works fine without  java plugin linked?
[11:46] <odla> yeah
[11:46] <gdb> nu: Yeah, you must have synaptic or something running also.
[11:46] <micahcowan> Renan_s2, to my knowledge, no simple package to do that. If you install xpdf, you could use pdfinfo to write some good shell scripts, if you like to get your hands dirty...
[11:46] <Knut> dhcp doesnt work, and if i configure network manually it doesnt work too
[11:46] <trogbot> cdubya:  For the time being that is...maybe later will try other shares.
[11:47] <gdb> nu: you can't be running any other package manager at the same time
[11:47] <Plouj> any ideas why ubuntu doesn't write grub to that disk's MBR?
[11:47] <Knut> network card and cable are both ok
[11:47] <Renan_s2> micahcowan, I could try.
[11:47] <cdubya> trogbot, the reason I ask is that it would be good to make sure that samba's playing nice
[11:47] <LnxSlck> mint|Alex:  do u know a repo to get acrebat reader ?
[11:47] <Dodzey> odla: did you have to modify that command i have you? or do you have same version?
[11:47] <nu> gdb: ok ill close it. i have synaptic runnng
[11:47] <gdb> nu: :-)
[11:47] <Ireclan> Surely it's not normal for Ubuntu to just hang like that.
[11:47] <cdubya> trogbot, ps ax | smbd
[11:47] <Dodzey> cablesm102: did installing alsa-oss work?
[11:47] <cdubya> trogbot, err, ps ax | grep smbd
[11:47] <odla> Dodzey: modify it to just java-1.5.0-sun
[11:47] <trogbot> cdubya: How can I do that?
[11:47] <cdubya> trogbot, in a terminal
[11:47] <nu> gdb:  done =F
[11:48] <trogbot> cdubya: hang on a sec.
[11:48] <sethk> Ireclan, of course that's not normal
[11:48] <gdb> nu: It's done running apt-get update now?
[11:48] <Dodzey> odla: yeah, should still work
[11:48] <odla> Dodzey: i think i might have it now...ok i fixed it
[11:48] <Ireclan> I figured it wasn't.
[11:48] <nu> gdb: yep
[11:48] <gdb> nu: Now run "apt-get install msttcorefonts"
[11:48] <Dodzey> odla: ok, cool
[11:48] <sethk> Ireclan, what is the last thing you see before it stops?
[11:48] <odla> Dodzey: i just need /ns7/libjavaplugin
[11:48] <Dodzey> if you have no sound in flash then you have to do what ive been discussing with cablesm102
[11:49] <nu> gdb: it's in process. *crosses fingers*
[11:49] <Ireclan> Step 2 of the installation process. I tried installing in safe mode, but X-Server crashed.
[11:49] <legendx> exit
[11:49] <cdubya> trogbot, you try that/
[11:49] <gdb> nu: Once those are done being installed, you'll need to completely exit firefox and restart it to see any effect.
[11:49] <sethk> Ireclan, try installing in command line mode, without trying to run the X server
[11:49] <odla> Dodzey: ah wait it now crashes when running java applets
[11:49] <nu> gdb: Gotcha. i just hope it works
[11:49] <gdb> nu: that includes every firefox "helper" window like "Manage Bookmarks" "Downloads" and whatever else.
[11:49] <gdb> nu: :-D
[11:50] <Dodzey> odla: ok, what files do you ahve linked to /opt/flock/plugins?
[11:50] <Ireclan> I have no clue how to do that. You want to hear the funny part?
[11:50] <nu> gdb: it's been stuck here for a while now: 33% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[11:50] <Ireclan> Kubuntu does just fine where Ubuntu hangs.
[11:50] <gdb> nu: Unfortunately that's been the norm the last few days.  If it stays hung, ^C out and run the command again.
[11:50] <nu> gdb: okie
[11:50] <sethk> Ireclan, same underlying version?
[11:50] <sethk> Ireclan, that is very odd
[11:50] <Ireclan> Yep.
[11:51] <Ireclan> Same version.
[11:51] <nu> lol now it hung at 0%
[11:51] <sethk> Ireclan, because (of course) neither gnome nor kde is running or installed at that point
[11:51] <nu> server must be busy
[11:51] <odla> Dodzey: flashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  libjavaplugin_oji.so  libnullplugin.so
[11:51] <masquerade> I just finished the installation for ubuntu (AMD64), and I'm getting "Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init" on boot, it looks like device drivers are getting, kernel memory freed, and then I get "/bin/sh: Can't open /init" followed immediately by thep anic
[11:51] <sethk> Ireclan, use the kubuntu cd to install a minimal system, then install the gnome desktop (assuming you don't want kde.  I use kde)
[11:51] <keiaah> Im trying to install Wine with WoW patch from the wiki now. Anyone using it, and can confirm it works good?
[11:52] <Ireclan> Would you like to hear the word from X-Server?
[11:52] <trogbot> cdubya:  Output was:  8114  ?   Ss  0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D....8117  ?   S  0:00 /usr/sbin/smbd -D.....8731  pts/0  R+  0:00  gre[ s,bd
[11:52] <Dodzey> odla: and what folder is that libjavaplugin_oji.so pointing to?
[11:52] <odla> Dodzey: libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[11:52] <clever> what package do i install for a dhcp server/deamon?
[11:52] <sethk> Ireclan, if you think it might help, sure
[11:52] <azcazandco> hi, can anyone tell me why i keep getting the following error... E: mldonkey-server: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:53] <robertj> keiaah: I installed WoW on Dapper's built in wine with no problems
[11:53] <azcazandco> i get it whenever I try and do updates etc
[11:53] <cdubya> trogbot, k. you mentioned you were using an hp.....do you know if you were using anything like hplip that perhaps isn't being used now?
[11:53] <robertj> keiaah: I didn't download any patches or anything
[11:53] <Ireclan> It says I have a bad V_BIOS checksum.
[11:53] <Plouj> is this what your boot loader looks like, guys? http://sh.nu/p/2595
[11:53] <Dodzey> odla: just for proof of concept make a new link that uses the full version folder not just the 1.5.0 linked folder
[11:53] <Ireclan> Word for word:
[11:53] <keiaah> robertj, I am following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[11:53] <nu> gdb: done. but it didnt help =( font in firefox is still a bit weird
[11:53] <gauss> hello people one question. how do i do an online upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[11:54] <cdubya> !dapper
[11:54] <trogbot> cdubya:   Yes...it's using hplip now and also in the past when it was working.
[11:54] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[11:54] <gdb> nu: Well, are you sure that firefox was completely restarted?
[11:54] <cdubya> !upgrade
[11:54] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[11:54] <cdubya> gauss, ^^^^^^^^^^^
[11:54] <Ireclan> (WW) VESA (0): Bad V_BIOS checksum.
[11:54] <keiaah> gauss, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list...make it point to dapper and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:54] <Ireclan> Then:
[11:54] <cdubya> trogbot, weird
[11:55] <cdubya> trogbot, so you updated ubuntu and that's when it happened
[11:55] <nu> gdb: yes. let me take a screenshot and show you. whats the pastebin link?
[11:55] <Ireclan> (EE) VESA (0): No matching modes.
[11:55] <Ireclan> Then:
[11:55] <trogbot> cdubya:  I know...has me baffled...was when I updated that it went to crap.
[11:55] <robertj> keiaah: The current version of Wine (0.9.17) ... that's not right, dapper ships .9.9
[11:55] <IRC_> i am having a problem with my java 1.5.0 installation. i installed it first without sudo. then i reinstalled it with sudo and it keeps giving me all these messages about overriting
[11:55] <odla> Dodzey: i tried the full version folder
[11:55] <sethk> Ireclan, the bios message you can ignore
[11:55] <odla> Dodzey: and it crashes as well
[11:55] <gdb> nu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:56] <keiaah> robertj, it 0.9.18
[11:56] <sethk> Ireclan, no matching modes means most likely that it has failed to correctly identify your monitor.
[11:56] <cdubya> gauss, you can do what keiaah suggests, but know that it's much easier following the graphical method using update-manager
[11:56] <Dodzey> odla: hmm, what permissions does the linked plugin have?
[11:56] <bobbyd> is there a good command line program to configure wifi connections?
[11:56] <sethk> Ireclan, which might explain why one cd works and the other does not.
[11:56] <Ireclan> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[11:56] <Knut> at the moment i use suse 10.1 with a seperate /home partition. can i use this partition with ubuntu too? so that i have two different systems with the same /home and /swap partition?
[11:56] <gauss> thanks guys i am at it!
[11:56] <trogbot> cdubya:   The updates did include stuff for cupsys; but since then I've reinstalled it and samba to no avial.
[11:56] <cdubya> gauss, and much less likely to break stuff if you don't know how or what exactly to do
[11:56] <sethk> Ireclan, right, once it fails to find a mode it can use, you are dead.
[11:56] <odla> Dodzey: root
[11:56] <cdubya> trogbot, that's messed up.
[11:56] <cdubya> trogbot.
[11:56] <cdubya> huh
[11:56] <Ireclan> So, what may I do about it?
[11:56] <Dodzey> odla: lrw-r--r-- ?
[11:56] <Renan_s2> !wmaker
[11:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about wmaker - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:57] <cdubya> trogbot, hang on
[11:57] <Renan_s2> !windowmaker
[11:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about windowmaker - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:57] <odla> Dodzey: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root
[11:57] <sethk> Ireclan, what I said before.  use the kubuntu cd to install a base system without a desktop, then use synaptic (or apt-get) to install gnome
[11:57] <IRC_>  i am having a problem with my java 1.5.0 installation. i installed it first without sudo. then i reinstalled it with sudo and it keeps giving me all these messages about overriting
[11:57] <OneTrueGoatKing> knut, that should be ok yes, just make sure user id's match
[11:57] <Dodzey> odla: hmm....myne is just lrw-r--r--
[11:57] <odla> Dodzey: ls -l libjavaplugin_oji.so
[11:57] <odla> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 77 2006-08-04 15:54 libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[11:57] <trogbot> cdubya:  matter of fact there have been a couple of updates concerning cups since the problem started, but I know of no way to back them out.
[11:57] <Ireclan> Could I just use KDE?
[11:57] <acojlo> amilo pro suspend 2 ram, anyone working?
[11:57] <micahcowan> !info wmaker
[11:57] <ubotu> wmaker: NeXTSTEP-like window manager for X. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.92.0-5 (dapper), package size 2220 kB, installed size 6104 kB
[11:58] <Ireclan> Is KDE better, as good, or worse than Gnome?
[11:58] <vnXism> greetz :)
[11:58] <Renan_s2> Ireclan, that is personal choice
[11:58] <Tamale> Ireclan: It's just different  :)
[11:58] <Renan_s2> try both and decide
[11:58] <nu> gdb: http://www.ficti0n.com/gdb.png
[11:58] <Dodzey> odla:right, erm...let me think
[11:58] <micahcowan> Ireclan, it varies widely based on personal taste. I'm mostly neutral, myself.
[11:58] <Knut> okay OneTrueGoatKing. but does anyone try that, because i dont want to lose my data
[11:58] <Dodzey> odla: what java app you trying it with?
[11:59] <cdubya> trogbot, maybe something here?  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/39484
[11:59] <trogbot> cdubya:   I don't want to start from scratch w/new install from live cd.....yuck.
[11:59] <odla> Dodzey: just a chat applet off a website, i don't know any other quick java applets
[11:59] <Ireclan> So, one is not better nor worse? Both are equal?
[11:59] <mlehrer> so is it possible to save my desktop settings when i log out of an ubuntu gnome session
[11:59] <Tamale> KDE has Konqueror where Gnome has nautilus, right?
[11:59] <gdb> nu: 404 not found
[11:59] <trogbot> cdubya: ok....leit me go take a read.
[11:59] <OneTrueGoatKing> I've done it with boot cd's and such, mounted the filesystems
[11:59] <Dodzey> odla:http://www.crystalsquid.com/games/tjjx/trafficjx_play.php
[11:59] <Dodzey> try that
[11:59] <OneTrueGoatKing> Not on a day to day basis,
[11:59] <dcordes> how can i test DVB usb devices?
[11:59] <Dodzey> odla :just followed an add from suns java site
[12:00] <cdubya> trogbot, gotta go for a few....will check back when I get back home if you're still around......
[12:00] <sethk> Ireclan, kde and gnome, you mean?  I prefer kde, but it is entirely a matter of opinion, and the two have very similar functionality
[12:00] <mint|Alex> can someone please read my thread about compiling the ubuntu kernel - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1339525#post1339525
[12:00] <nu> !paste > gdb http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/play/gdb.png
[12:00] <ompaul> !compile
[12:00] <trogbot> cdubya: thanks for help...catch ya on the flip/flop.
[12:00] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:00] <Knut> okay.. i will try xubuntu, so byby and thanks OneTrueGoatKing
[12:00] <nu> gdb i think i just sent it to your PM
[12:00] <Tamale> sethk: Is KDE's Konqueror like Gnome's Nautilus?