[21:32] <W3ird_N3rd> SlagDooM, so I was right about the prank :P
[21:32] <kunguz> Where is the xorg.conf in ubuntu 11.04?
[21:32] <joakimk> ubuntugreyhat: would you say Ubuntu 10, or 11?
[21:33] <ubuntugreyhat> ok so you are running of the CD?
[21:33] <popey> kunguz: it may not exist, but if it does, /etc/X11/
[21:33] <escott> zmonkzz, remove jackd, then remove /var/lib/alsa/asound.state... there may be other stuff though
[21:33] <joakimk> ubuntugreyhat: oh no, from disk
[21:33] <kunguz> popey: thanks
[21:33] <joakimk> sorry for being so confusing!
[21:33] <kinesis> how do i install ubuntu using a 1gb flash drive on a netbook that has pcmcia wireless using mini.iso net installer
[21:33] <cablop> ok, i managed to make this ubuntu work after some hours... and unwilling to do that again... once i have time i'll setup one server just with ubuntu 10.04...
[21:33] <kinesis> ive asked like 100 times, not a single reply
[21:33] <zmonkzz> escott ok i will try that
[21:33] <joakimk> ubuntugreyhat: the upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 seems to have gone ok, but I had graphics problems so I apparently messed up compiz
[21:34] <jtreminio> Is it possible to get rid of the Unity Bar (where program icons are) but keep everything else? I love the universal menu bar and the Windows Key -> search function, but really dislike the actual bar itself.
[21:34] <popey> kinesis: easiest way is yank the drive out, put in another computer and install there
[21:34] <ubuntugreyhat> ok yeah Graphic support my not be available in that version for that card.... let me look up the commandline install
[21:34] <cablop> kinesis, you have a mini iso, then it is read-only, i just think you need to redo it, moding it in some way to make it load your pcmcia hw
[21:34] <escott> joakimk, that gdm screen doesn't look right. removing compiz probably removed a bunch of other stuff including the gdm themese
[21:34] <foot-odor> helloooo
[21:35] <cablop> kinesis, alternatively you can install the thing that way you have a writable portion on the usb, if you manage to put the module there and some script... i think you can make it work
[21:35] <joakimk> escott: so... must I reinstall in order to get past this?
[21:35] <kinesis> ethernet wouldnt work
[21:35] <foot-odor> anyone here use ubuntu?
[21:35] <ubuntugreyhat> move back to 10....
[21:35] <joakimk> ubuntugreyhat: yeah, I'm thinking the same
[21:35] <ubuntugreyhat> what is the make and model of the Laptop?
[21:35] <guntbert> foot-odor: this is the ubuntu support channel.  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:36] <joakimk> ubuntugreyhat: HP nc6400
[21:36] <jtreminio> Is it possible to get rid of the Unity Bar (where program icons are) but keep everything else? I love the universal menu bar and the Windows Key -> search function, but really dislike the actual bar itself.
[21:36] <SlagDooM> foot-odor: no trolling here please
[21:36] <joakimk> ubuntugreyhat: did you see the pic of the desktop I got after installing 11?
[21:36] <bencc> why is the line "#includedir /etc/sudoers.d" commented in /etc/sudoers?
[21:36] <foot-odor> sorry about the trolling :P
[21:36] <escott> joakimk, i would sudo apt-get check; sudo apt-get --reinstall gdm; sudo apt-get --resinstall unity-2d
[21:36] <bencc> isn't the preferred way to put files under the /etc/sudoers.d/ folder?
[21:36] <foot-odor> guntbert, i don't have any 100% pure ubuntu questions
[21:36] <foot-odor> but i do have a grub question
[21:36] <pastoragbetsiafa> here is very busy my brother
[21:37] <foot-odor> and since ubuntu uses grub
[21:37] <cablop> joakimk: what card is on your pc?
[21:37] <kinesis> im trying this: http://www.ubuntu-mini-remix.org/
[21:37] <foot-odor> is it a apropiate palce to ask?
[21:37] <ubuntugreyhat> yeah you can try that command from escott but i would just go back to 10
[21:37] <LjL> foot-odor: appropriate enough if you're using Ubuntu
[21:37] <ubuntugreyhat> stable vs problems....
[21:37] <foot-odor> can i install grub before installing any os ?
[21:37] <cablop> foot-odor: try it, if not try on ##linux dunno if there's a #grub channel
[21:37] <kinesis> i doubt that has a net intaler
[21:37] <joakimk> cablop: ATI Radeon X1300
[21:37] <foot-odor> sure
[21:37] <Guest95082> No sound out of MacBook speakers & red LED in Headphone jack
[21:38] <LjL> foot-odor: well yes you can but it's probably easier to install it together with an OS
[21:38] <LjL> foot-odor: actually wait, i'm not sure you can
[21:38] <escott> joakimk, the problem is when you remove something from the top of the application stack like unity there are lots of things beneath it that might also be removed, and then trying to get everything back could be tricky. its better to try and work around it and not use the offending application
[21:38] <joakimk> ubuntugreyhat: I got this: http://bildr.no/view/887993
[21:38] <LjL> foot-odor: GRUB does afaik need a partition to store its cruft on
[21:38] <RA_drc> Guest95082: that sounds like it's broken.  also, you should change your username :-p
[21:38] <rww> LjL: indeed
[21:38] <joakimk> escott: see the pic -- I couldn't work like that... hehe
[21:39] <cablop> Guest95082: try in pulse audio settingsd and set the output to work the way the hardware works, for example, my netbook has a connection for normal jacks, but also for those with 4 rings, with microphone, so i select duplex instead of standard
[21:39] <escott> LjL, foot-odor only for gpt. for mbr it puts part in mbr, part in space after mbr but before partitions begin, and then the rest in /boot
[21:39] <Nintet> how do you change screen resolution in ubiquity?? just installed and did not know about the new GUI
[21:39] <brokenlinux> has anyone else ever had an issue where you couldn't boot from either the hd or usb stick?  my battery died yesterday and now i just get a black screen with a flashing cursor when i try to boot and a bios splash screen that says "system resuming"
[21:39] <joakimk> escott: trying your apt-get now.
[21:39] <foot-odor> LjL, escott i want to format my hdd
[21:39] <jtreminio> how would I get rid of specific parts of Unity? I don't like the actual Unity bar but like everything else.
[21:39] <escott> joakimk, yeah thats a rather obviously broken graphics card driver
[21:39] <ubuntugreyhat> you driver is not responding properly....
[21:39] <joakimk> escott: I understand. I was a bit desperate after upgrading
[21:39] <foot-odor> and create the boot partition first
[21:39] <joakimk> escott: yes
[21:40] <ubuntugreyhat> reinstall!!!
[21:40] <foot-odor> then install the os'es one by one
[21:40] <cablop> foot-odor: anyway, if you install grub2 just install the one comming out from your OS, it is pretty integrated and dependant tof it
[21:40] <joakimk> escott: eh, apt-get exits with "E: Invalid operation gdm"
[21:40] <Nintet> i only want to see the screen, i dont even know how i installed it since i couldnt see the whole screen
[21:40] <ubuntugreyhat> backup and reinstall!!
[21:40] <joakimk> ubuntugreyhat: yeah... but 11 or 10.10?
[21:40] <foot-odor> well none of my os'es has grub integrated
[21:40] <foot-odor> that's the point
[21:40] <LjL> foot-odor: you can do that, create a boot partition and install GRUB on it... but for that matter you can pick one OS (say Ubuntu) and install it while telling it to create a /boot partition, and that seems easier, so i'm not sure why you'd want to do that
[21:40] <Guest95082> cablop : mine is Analog Stereo Duplex
[21:40] <ubuntugreyhat> 10.10.... kind duh.... haha jk
[21:40] <cablop> jtreminio: i'll do it this way... i'll try to go and start in classic and add part by par what i liked of the new ubuntu
[21:41] <escott> joakimk, rather --reinstall install gdm, but if your X is looking like that, it may be better to drop to 10.10 if that worked for you. either that or you switch to using vesa drivers
[21:41] <guntbert> ubuntugreyhat: please stop those "witty" comments
[21:41] <cablop> Guest95082: let me check it on my netbook i think it is the same, is your jack a 4-ring one, right?
[21:41] <escott> joakimk, was your previous X running with vesa or radeon drivers?
[21:41] <joakimk> escott: 10.10 worked like a charm
[21:41] <jtreminio> cablop, The problem I've come across is that I can't find the specific universal menu bar, and I *do* want to keep the ability to do a quick search by pressing the Windows/Super key
 how can i change my username, also can you suggest me some good irc client?
[21:41] <joakimk> escott: oh, that's why I fret -- I had to do something back then to fix some "jittering" graphics... and I can't remember what exactly I did
[21:41] <Nintet> how do you fix your resolution in 11.00?
[21:41] <foot-odor> can anyone archive /usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2 for me please?
[21:42] <cablop> joakimk you can try to find if thereś  a PPA for your video card
[21:42] <joakimk> escott: I got some help, here at #ubuntu ;)
[21:42] <ubuntugreyhat> guntbert, jealous? want some attention? ;)
 mine is that 3.5 jack
[21:42] <roasted> Question - with software raid on the alternate installer CD, I was not presented with a mount point option, raid type option, or the option to create an MD device. Why?
[21:42] <escott> joakimk, what kind of card was it again?
[21:42] <cablop> Guest95082: type this /nick yourDesiredNewNick
[21:42] <joakimk> escott: ATI Radeon X1300
[21:42] <RA_drc> Guest95082: type /nick NewUsername
 thanks a lot :)
[21:43] <Nintet> what is the app that you use to change your resolution in 11.02?
[21:43] <adwait_neo> how can i register this name?
[21:43] <Nintet> i cant find it in the new GUI
[21:43] <NullCity> Hello
[21:43] <joakimk> escott: so, vesa drivers might be something for me? also for 10.10? If the jittering (literally shaking pixels) happens again?
[21:43] <cablop> adwait_neo: my netbook says Analog Stereo Duplex and it is working, but i'm not sure if your jack is that jack
[21:44] <joakimk> escott: not that I know what "use vesa drivers" really means... ;)
[21:44] <RA_drc> adwait_neo: np, and xchat should be fine as an irc client, if you're pickier, you can google for "linux irc client" and find one that you like best.  a good CLI client is irssi
[21:44] <sudokill> xchat is nice i use it
[21:44] <cablop> adwait_neo: try analog stereo output, it should work
[21:44] <NullCity> Im using BitchX as my IRC Client
[21:44] <escott> joakimk, vesa is standard unaccelerated graphics. basically the successor to SVGA
[21:44] <nit-wit> adwait_neo, http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
 no change :(
 thanks :)
[21:45] <cablop> adwait_neo: go to the official freenode.net pagge, they explain the procedure to register and keep the nick for you, you need to lo in often, anyway
[21:45] <ubuntugreyhat> joakimk, If i were you i would go back to the version that worked best for you and keep it.... i mean i had to on my old maching when i was running 10.04, after that version i bough a new machine
[21:45] <ubuntu> Sometimes, I wonder if catlyst is below Vesa.
 thanks a lot :)
[21:45] <Edit> hi guys, sorry for the off, but is there anybody here who can speak spanish and can help me? only one word, not a too long thing. thanks :) :) :)
[21:45] <Nintet> so there is no tool to adjust screen resolution in 11???
[21:45] <joakimk> ubuntugreyhat: I'm getting a new machine pretty soon... still, tomorrow is Monday, and I ought to work ;)
[21:46] <randomuser> Edit: I know one word of spanish!
 tried but the red light is still glowing as well as no sound :(
[21:46] <nit-wit> adwait_neo, no prob you can go to #freenode and get help but be prepared with the info I linked they will do the same usually.;)
[21:46] <foot-odor> can anyone give me a file please
[21:46] <joakimk> ubuntugreyhat: THANKFULLY all my work files are on SVN :-D phew!!
[21:46] <cablop> adwait_neo: i use chatzilla, it is a CPU hog, i know, but in the other hand works the same in windows or linux, so i just get used to just one irc client :)
[21:46] <sudokill> weechat is good if u like termianl chat
[21:46] <guntbert> randomuser: wrong window?
[21:46] <ubuntugreyhat> yeah i say! haha....
[21:46] <Edit> randomuser: let me guess :D te amo? :D :D
 i use xchat
[21:47] <guntbert> !ot | Edit
[21:47] <joakimk> escott: Isn't it odd that the (graphical) login window stopped having "joakimk" in username field, and now only let's me choose "other"?
[21:47] <randomuser> just sarcasm.. try #ubuntu-es, edit
[21:47] <Nintet> hey man 11.02 is ill... as in sick. as in needs to go back to the doctor and get fixed =(
[21:47] <joakimk> escott: I tried your apt-get's, and a reboot, but seems to be the same situation
[21:47] <compdoc> 11.02 doesnt exist, does it?
[21:47] <Edit> randomuser: thanks for your help :)
[21:47] <cablop> that's why it is ill xD
[21:47] <sudokill> Nintet, just use 10.10 then
[21:47] <escott> joakimk, there are regularly adding support for different radeon cards. its possible that 10.10 wasn't supporting your card so you were using vesa, but 11.04 things it can support your card and the support is broken or it could be a regression. there seem to be a dozen variants of X1300 so its hard to tell http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-radeonhd/plain/README
[21:48] <randomuser> guntbert, blease don't spam the channel with bot messages unnecessarily. It makes it hard to follow along.
[21:48] <sudokill> 11.04 isnt coompulsory
[21:48] <ubuntu> I have a ATI 4850. Should I just keep it on windows?
[21:48] <joakimk> escott: I see
[21:48] <cablop> 11.04 seems to be a frankenstein monster
[21:48] <sudokill> i couldnt even use 11.04
[21:48] <dusf> '~/Public' is empty, '/media/DUMP/dusf/public' is not, in my attempts to make any reference to the former automatically equate to the latter i tried ln -s /media/DUMP/dusf/public ~/Public. i would like if a package were to try save a file there, or i were to open ~/Public, the file would be saved automatically in /media/DUMP/dusf/public and i would be linked automatically there too. instead it creates a ~/Public/public which is the link, but how would i make
 m now registered :)
[21:48] <compdoc> 11.04 is excellent
[21:48] <ubuntugreyhat> joakimk, yeah agreed, did you install the ATI drivers at anypoint?
[21:48] <Nintet> you are telling me that in v11watever you ave to use go back to manually configuring X?
[21:49] <sudokill> i seem to be one of few who uses nvidia drivers and couldnt drag windows
[21:49] <joakimk> ubuntugreyhat: I think maybe I did... urg, wish I'd kept a log
[21:49] <cablop> cut it, sew it, try it, tie here, plug it, turn on the electricity and let the show run MWAHAHAHAHAHA (thunders) then ubuntu 11.04 came to light
[21:49] <servan> hi! i installed ubuntu 11.04 on my lenovo thinkpad x220 tablet. the touch isnt working right. when i touch the display the right place is pointed. but after that the cursor is jumping to the upper left corner. is there a way to fix that?
[21:49] <escott> joakimk, given that you have problems with both your video card driver and your gdm setup i would reinstall
[21:50] <escott> joakimk, drop back to 10.10 and make careful note of what driver you are using an what is working
[21:50] <cablop> joakimk i think the best option for you is to stick to 10.10
[21:50] <joakimk> ok :) Thanks very much!
 please help me with the sound issue
[21:50] <ubuntugreyhat> sorry man...
[21:51] <javaJake_> On my MacBook Pro (5,3) Ubuntu 11.04 locks up after loading the nouveau driver, before the init process starts. Is there a known solution for this?
[21:51] <joakimk> one more thing... I have backups of all my stuff, but is there any way to do a backup of my localhost apache2 server settings? I managed to get a "LAMP" setup working, and I'd love to just copy some files back to /etc and have it working again
[21:51] <cablop> adwait_neo: this is the far i think i can go... am, try  to send sound via alsa... i don't remember exactly how, maybe via alsaplayer or sth, then you can see if alsa is working, then try fixing pulse
[21:51] <De|ta> hi guys, i have 10.04 LTS on an HP Microserver, trying to get k10temp to work with lmsensors - but am not having much joy. Anyone free to help me out?
[21:51] <joakimk> I took a copy of /etc/apache2 and /etc/mysql... Is that all?
[21:51] <escott> javaJake_, blacklist the nouveau drivers
[21:51] <brokenlinux> anyone?  any idea why i wouldn't be able to boot to my usb rescue drive?  i'm very perplexed by this; surely someone's encountered it...
[21:51] <ubuntugreyhat> yeah what were you doing with it?
[21:51] <infoad> What hapend to the Ubunto netbok version?
[21:51] <sudokill> gone
[21:52] <joakimk> ubuntugreyhat: that for me?
[21:52] <sudokill> 11.04 replaced it
[21:52] <cablop> javaJake_: if you can install the proprietaryy drivers, you are running on a mac, so better to keep to them
[21:52] <root> hi
[21:52] <ubuntugreyhat> yeah
 thanks a lot .... m googling it bt found no positive way
[21:52] <javaJake_> escott: then X fails to load because it autodetects nouveau
[21:52] <escott> joakimk, basically. you can use a diff util or a vcs to try and merge changes in later
[21:52] <ubuntugreyhat> like wordpress?
[21:52] <De|ta> I have tried this; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1454964 but am getting errors when doing the 'make'
[21:52] <joakimk> escott: so, those two dirs then?
[21:52] <Nintet> i know there is an easy way to configure your resolution in 11.03 please tell me
[21:52] <ShermanBoyd> I'm having a hard time apt-getting curl under natty.  Would anyone mind trying it so I can tell if it's just me?
[21:52] <Nintet> this is really aggrivating
[21:52] <nit-wit> brokendatapoint, hows the usb loaded?
[21:52] <joakimk> ubuntugreyhat: no, I was mainly setting up some HTML in public_html, with some Perl CGI scripts
[21:52] <javaJake_> cablop: say again?
[21:53] <Guest82420> hi Ineed help
[21:53] <adwait_neo> i am currently using 11.04 shall i switch to 10.10 ?
[21:53] <escott> joakimk, there may be files in /var/www like htaccess you would want to backup too
[21:53] <adwait_neo> is it more stable?
[21:53] <nit-wit> brokenlinux, how's the usb loaded?
[21:53] <joakimk> escott: thanks
[21:53] <javaJake_> cablop: what do you mean by "if you can install the proprietary drivers"?
[21:53] <ubuntugreyhat> oh... ok well run a back of the DB, grab everything in the /etc/www/ file and then the CGI scripts
[21:53] <sudokill> adwait_neo, most people seem to think so
 how far it is?
[21:54] <cablop> javaJake_: get to your desktop one way r another, maqybe starting in the repair mode of ubuntu and start the x-server with a vesa video, i guess, then go system and add the harware and install the proprietary drivers
[21:54] <ubuntugreyhat> oh and dont forget the default file in apache2 if you mod it
[21:54] <joakimk> ubuntugreyhat: I "redirected" to ~/public_html, so I have those files backed up then :)
[21:54] <sudokill> adwait_neo, 11.04 will probaby get better but 10.10 not many people seem to have problems with
[21:54] <javaJake_> escott: is the nouveau issue one you're aware of or is blacklisting a first step in debugging you'd recommend? I get to a terminal if I blacklist, but that's it.
[21:54] <joakimk> ubuntugreyhat: yes! I took the entire /etc/apache2 dir
[21:54] <ubuntugreyhat> well good luck man
[21:54] <ShermanBoyd> Is there an error in the url?  Space between /ubuntu/ and natty/ ?
[21:54] <ShermanBoyd> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/main curl amd64 7.21.3-1ubuntu1 [182 kB]
[21:54] <ShermanBoyd> 0% [1 curl 1,138 B/182 kB 0%]
[21:54] <joakimk> thanks :)
 i am facing problems with 11.04 :(
[21:55] <sudokill> same
[21:55] <sudokill> well i was
[21:55] <javaJake_> cablop: it has nothing to do with video. This is during kernel boot, when Ubuntu is trying to load the framebuffer.
[21:55] <escott> javaJake_, well nouveau is freezing your machine so it has to go. from the terminal you can try and identify a driver that works for your config, either vesa (no 3d) or proprietary nvidia
[21:55] <sudokill> use 10.10 if you can live without unity
[21:55] <sudokill> lol
[21:55] <gorto> I am trying to install ubuntu on a desktop that has a NVIDIA GeForce 9500 card. It looks like it loads the kernel, but thin it just sits their with a courser on the upper right corner. Tried 10.10 and 11.04
[21:55] <escott> ShermanBoyd, no thats not a url
[21:55] <cablop> javaJake_: ah, ok, then disable the splash on boot,
[21:56] <joakimk> adwait_neo: I had too, so I'm going back to 10.10, for what that advice is worth ;)
[21:56] <javaJake_> cablop: lol, it has *nothing* to do with video.
[21:56] <ShermanBoyd> escott: so it's fine like that?
[21:56] <cablop> javaJake_: you can try to start and pres esc one time after booting, just before trying to load the framebuffer
[21:56] <javaJake_> cablop: it's entirely to do with the kernel loading a module that proceeds to lock the entire thing up
 can you explain me what unity is exactly?
[21:56] <escott> ShermanBoyd, where are you seeing this?
[21:56] <sudokill> the new shell with the sidebar etc
[21:56] <cablop> javaJake_: also, to enter the other mode, rescue, safe, recovery, don't remember the name, will skip the splash, so you can go through the boot
 my speakers aren't working properly
[21:56] <brokenlinux> nit-wit: in the bios
[21:56] <sudokill> the one everyone hates
[21:56] <javaJake_> cablop: yep, and I can blacklist nouveau but that disables X
[21:56] <ShermanBoyd> escott: apt-get install curl ... it times out eventually
[21:56] <javaJake_> escott: how do you recommend I configure X by hand?
[21:56] <brokenlinux> and then it just hangs at black screen with flashing cursor
[21:57] <joakimk> adwait_neo: sorry, I can't help you... I'm just as confused as you ;)
[21:57] <javaJake_> escott: this new automagic X system makes it very difficult for me to know how to stop X from being automagic.
[21:57] <joakimk> maybe more :)
[21:57] <cablop> javaJake_: that's why i tell you to go in the recovery mode and start with a vesa video, or vga standard... don't rememeber the name exactly, ah! i think it is called safe video mode
[21:57] <adwait_neo> Can someone tell me what UNITY is exactly?
[21:57] <escott> javaJake_, i know, unfortunately the magic has always worked for me, so im not sure how to prevent it
[21:57] <sudokill> adwait_neo, the new shell
[21:58] <javaJake_> escott: ok
[21:58] <compdoc> adwait_neo, a desktop gui
[21:58] <escott> ShermanBoyd, can you open http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ in your browser?
[21:58] <popey> adwait_neo: its the user interface a user of 11.04 sees by default if they have a 3d capable video card
[21:58] <sudokill> adwait_neo, i take it u didnt use any other linux distro?
[21:58] <compdoc> like gnome or windows explorer
[21:58] <compdoc> only less
[21:58] <Nintet> its not like either
[21:58] <Nintet> it sucks bad
 well i am a beginner
[21:58] <nit-wit> brokenlinux, hold down the shift key when you boot f you get a try or install gui hit f6 click nomodeset and boot in.
[21:58] <ShermanBoyd> escott: yeah, I even downloaded the curl file
[21:58] <cablop> Nintet what? unity? unity sucks?
[21:58] <Nintet> how do you even browse your files in this?
[21:59] <nit-wit> *if
 if i dun have a 3d video card then its useless?
[21:59] <escott> ShermanBoyd, if you downloaded the curl deb you can just sudo apt-get intall /path/to/curl.deb
[21:59] <sudokill> adwait_neo, if u install 10.10 ull be on plain gnome 2
[21:59] <Nintet> yeah this is my first time using it and i didnt think it was going to be that bad... this is a super huge FLOP
[21:59] <ShermanBoyd> escott: but it's missing a dep
[21:59] <sudokill> adwait_neo, pretty much same as 11.04 in "classic" mode
 as a developer does it makes some sense?
[21:59] <sudokill> adwait_neo, ???
[21:59] <escott> ShermanBoyd, curl is afaik part of the base system. what happened that lead to your not having it?
[22:00] <sudokill> adwait_neo, its only the layout of it basically
[22:00] <cablop> Nintet i really pefer Windows 3.11 interface rather than unity xD
 like a theme
[22:00] <sudokill> adwait_neo, yea pretty much
[22:00] <nit-wit> ! ot |cablop
[22:00] <adwait_neo> catchy graphics and all ...
[22:00] <ShermanBoyd> escott: not sure, I did a server install and didn't select anything
[22:00] <Nintet> cablop, can you just install iceWM or something?
[22:00] <sudokill> adwait_neo, a lot of people find unity with the sidebar etc more awkward and slower to use than classic gnome with the 2 panels (similar to windows)
[22:00] <needlez> hey quick question, got dofus installed, had to do it manually... now the only issue is that i have no icon in applications. So how can i create an icon in applications that starts dofus??, i already have the parameters to start it from command line, just need to know how to create a new entry in applications under games
[22:01] <cablop> nintet nah i boot in ubuntu classic... i hope and pray and make sacrifices to all known gods if they still keep the ubuntu classic in 12.04
[22:01] <popey> adwait_neo: there is a 2d version in the works
 since i am using it on a Mac machine, the performance is a bit slow on 11.04
[22:01] <adwait_neo> so i'll be going back to 10.10 :)
[22:01] <ShermanBoyd> escott: hmm I was able to apt-get the dep libcurl3
[22:01] <Nintet> cablop, how do i enter the correct screen res... do i have to reconfigure X?
 of 11.04?
[22:02] <popey> adwait_neo: the classic gnome desktop still exists in 11.04, you dont need to go back 10.10 for that
[22:02] <popey> adwait_neo: there is a 2d version of Unity
[22:02] <popey> adwait_neo: so at least two options in 11.04 even without 3d
[22:02] <needlez> nvm i got it
 yeah i saw that, i got an option in the login screen
[22:02] <popey> adwait_neo: yeah, thats the one
[22:02] <cablop> nintet, dunno, i just started in ubuntu classic went to mmmm system->preferences->monitors and i find the desktop resolution there, even using that experimental nouveau on an old mx440 nvidia it works good enough
[22:02] <escott> ShermanBoyd, i lied its an optional component. it may just be a bad mirror, you could try switching to a closer mirror. there is a gui as part of synaptic to select a better mirror
[22:03] <cablop> Nintet: dunno the way to reach those settings in unity
but my problem is No sound out of MacBook speakers & red LED in Headphone jack
[22:03] <nit-wit> please take the talk of wants and needs in unity to off-topic and let this channel help;)
[22:03] <popey> adwait_neo: which model of macbook?
[22:03] <adwait_neo> 6,1
[22:03] <popey> adwait_neo: the red led is optical out, you can turn that off
[22:03] <escott> adwait_neo, saw someone else with the same problem. fixed it with hda_Analyzer
 how?
[22:04] <anass> hello, I've a problem with apt, so I can install/update software! this problem is: http://pastebin.com/gY2Mabcr
[22:04] <ShermanBoyd> escott: no gui for me, what's the command line way?
[22:04] <popey> adwait_neo: alsamixer
[22:04] <anass> hello, I've a problem with apt, so I can't install/update software! this problem is: http://pastebin.com/gY2Mabcr
[22:04] <sudokill> alsamoxer shouldnt mute by default
[22:04] <escott> ShermanBoyd, i dont know, but you can modify /etc/apt/sources.list by hand
[22:04] <sudokill> mixer*
 can you tell me the procedure? i did everything FULL !
[22:04] <sudokill> adwait_neo, type alsamixer into terminal
[22:04] <noel_g> I was having problem with my system showing updates available even though I had performed an update.  So I followed this info and deleted /etc/motd and /etc/motd.tail that fixed the problem where I was seeing updates were available, but now I dont see them where there are some available :)  does the software check happen on a certain interval and will those files be generated automatically  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=107
[22:04] <sudokill> and see if volumes r up
[22:05] <cablop> ok guys, time to go back to work
[22:05] <cablop> see you
 yes
[22:05] <sudokill> adwait_neo, or go into sound options and see if the right sound card is chosen
[22:05] <sudokill> adwait_neo, it should usuallly work fine though by default
[22:05] <SuNotisima> i have burned a multisession CD-R but now all I can see is the last session. can I access the other files anyhow?
[22:05] <escott> adwait_neo, if you can't disable the optical through alsamixer i know it can be done with hda_analyzer
[22:06] <escott> ShermanBoyd, make sure you are running sudo apt-get update prior to trying to install curl
[22:06] <adwait_neo> OMG ! :)
[22:06] <ShermanBoyd> escott: yeah I did
 red light is off :)
[22:06] <cablop> SuNotisima: i just know an app in windows for that, isobuster, dunno if you can run it on wine... or try to find an alternative to it in google
 i did it :) thanks now there is no red light :)
[22:07] <sudokill> adwait_neo, what did u do? lol
[22:07] <peterhil> Hi does dual booting Ubuntu 11.04 with Windows 7 require that windoze is installed first or on a separate disk? Or can it be installed afterwards?
[22:07] <sudokill> adwait_neo, sound card in sound options?
[22:07] <Andi> hey guys i would need some help please, my webcam is inverted ... does anybody know how to fix it?
[22:07] <sudokill> turn it round?
[22:07] <sudokill> lol
[22:07] <escott> peterhil, if you install windows second you have to recover grub, its not too hard, but its often easier to just install windows first see !grub
[22:07] <De|ta> turn it the other way ip
 i selected the sound card as default
[22:08] <sudokill> ah ok
[22:08] <cablop> peterhil Windows will replace the grub loader with the windows loader, meaning you'll have to reinstall the grub at least
[22:08] <SuNotisima> cablop: thx
[22:08] <escott> Andi, is this just in skype?
[22:08] <escott> Andi, does cheese show it right side up?
[22:08] <cablop> peterhil: but, if you have two hard disks and can set a disk to each OS then the order is not important as long as the Windows install the loader on its own disk
[22:08] <sudokill> adwait_neo, if ur new dont install 10.10 u shuld be fine with 11.04
[22:09] <sudokill> adwait_neo, it will only cause u hassle havng to reinstall etc
 hmm thanks
[22:09] <peterhil> cablop: Ok thanks! Maybe I'll give the crappy noisy Maxtor disk to Windows... :-)
[22:09] <adwait_neo> and if i again find some problem, i ll trouble u :P
[22:09] <cablop> peterhil: you need to run update-grub in your ubuntu after installing win7 in the other disk in order to make it appear in the grub loader
[22:09] <sudokill> adwait_neo, if ur having graphic problems, choppiness- at the login screen theres a drop down box, choose classic there and it should go fast
[22:09] <alchemist_> I am having a problem with modprobe - I have options in a .conf file /etc/modprobe.d/options.conf - however - I have two pci cards of the same type installed and only the first card is picking up the modprobe options not the second
[22:10] <sudokill> adwait_neo, but u'll have no sidebar
[22:10] <cablop> peterhil, detach the linux one just to avoid any "mistake" windows would make
[22:10] <Nintet> help! my screen is incorrect and i have no xorg.conf
[22:10] <sudokill> adwait_neo, it's actually better on classic anyway
 i hate sidebar
[22:10] <adwait_neo> yeah
[22:10] <sudokill> adwait_neo, yea thats part of unity
[22:10] <Nintet> what is the tool to configure resolution in 11???
[22:11] <sudokill> adwait_neo, stick with the classic its faster and easier to use and quicker to use
[22:11] <cablop> nintet are you on ubuntu classic or in unity?
[22:11] <De|ta> i have 10.04 server installed, how easy is it to update it to the latest
[22:11] <Nintet> classic
[22:11] <Nintet> i just changed
[22:11] <cablop> nintet in classic go to the menu System->Preferences->Monitors
[22:11] <edbian> De|ta, very easy.  Would you like to know how?
yes :)
[22:11] <edbian> De|ta, It will just be time consuming
[22:11] <Nintet> cablop, that only shows 1024*768
[22:12] <anass> hello, I've a problem with apt, so I can't install/update software! this problem is: http://pastebin.com/gY2Mabcr
[22:12] <cablop> Nintet: then you should need to upgrade change your graphic drivers
[22:12] <Nintet> what is the tool to do that?
[22:12] <Nintet> i have in intel grafix card
[22:12] <W3ird_N3rd> I've put "10 23 * * * init 0" in cron (sudo crontab -e), but it won't shutdown at said time. If I make it "init 0 > /home/user/init.txt" it writes an empty file. Anyone a clue?
[22:12] <De|ta> hmm - the reason I'm looking at doing it is because I can't get k10temp to work with lm-sensors. not sure if it's worth the hassle edbian
[22:12] <cablop> nintet if your card and monitor are old, then turn on your monitor before your computer
[22:12] <Nintet> this is a 23" acre LCD
[22:13] <edbian> De|ta, I don't know what that is and I have no guarantee that it will work in a newer version
[22:13] <edbian> De|ta, Is 10.04 an LTS?
[22:13] <cablop> nintet then for the driver thing... System->Administration->additional Drivers
[22:13] <De|ta> yes edbian it is
[22:13] <compdoc> acer
[22:13] <Nintet> said that i have no additional drivers to install
[22:13] <sudokill> Nintet, i could be wrong but should be default drivers for onboard
[22:13] <peterhil> The Win 7 requirements are RIDICULOUS!
[22:14] <edbian> De|ta,  Yeah I have no clue if it is going to work differently in 11.04
[22:14] <cablop> nintet.... mmmm weird... it happened to me with an nvidia card wen i forgot to turn on my flatron
[22:14] <peterhil> 16 Gb of HD and 1 GB RAM
[22:14] <escott> W3ird_N3rd, why not use shutdown -h now
[22:14] <peterhil> WTF?
[22:14] <sudokill> peterhil, whats wrong
[22:14] <W3ird_N3rd> escott, doesn't work either, that's what I tried at first
[22:14] <sklorpiom> hello can any1 can tell me why i cant join from Xchat on all servers on 8001 port? Thats why am now using web IRC.
[22:14] <W3ird_N3rd> shutdown -h now is fine with me too, I just want it to turn off
[22:14] <cablop> peterhil, this is what you really need on a winxp with allthe tweaks you need to make it run like a modern OS xD
[22:14] <peterhil> :-)
[22:14] <sudokill> peterhil, Win 7 should run on any pc
[22:15] <adwait_neo> join #mozilla
[22:15] <coz_> sklorpiom,  not sure,, is your nick registered?
[22:15] <sklorpiom> coz_ not, i get some connection problem but it's not specified
[22:15] <nit-wit> peterhil, is the maxtor a external or internal drive?
[22:16] <hypetech> what is the difference between the nvidia-current package and the proprietary nvidia driver ubuntu installs the first time I boot it?
[22:16] <cablop> nintet /leave
[22:16] <peterhil> I have a 2200+ Athlon XP machine with 512 Gb RAM and 40 Gb HD. That should still work quite well for basic web browsing, as just couple of years ago those were the specs for doing graphic design with largish press quality images.
[22:16] <coz_> sklorpiom,  mm  I know if your nick is not registered,,you wont be able to join some channels,, It may also be true of servers  but again, not sure
[22:16] <Nintet> thanks
[22:16] <cablop> ammm
[22:16] <cablop> wrong command
[22:16] <sudokill> 512GB ram should be more than enough...
[22:16] <peterhil> nit-wit: Internal. I removed it because it was so noisy
[22:16] <cablop> sorrry not telling you to leave nintet xD
[22:16] <servan> does anyone use a notebook with a wacom touchscreen?
[22:16] <Master> hi yal
[22:16] <Nintet> cablop, i should have 1920x1080
[22:16] <nit-wit> peterhil, cool W7 wont stay working with a external afaik.
[22:16] <sklorpiom> coz_ connection is refused, i gues something that blocks me from port 8001
[22:17] <cablop> peterhil: Win7 will run with 512 MB of RAM, the problem is make it install
[22:17] <sudokill> peterhil, why use windows 7 just for web browsing? why not use ubuntu
[22:17] <peterhil> caplob: That's good to know
[22:17] <coz_> sklorpiom,  did you try the #xchat channel ?
[22:17] <escott> W3ird_N3rd, and you mean 11:10pm not 10:23am right
[22:17] <anass> http://sabi.ly/f/Lx93K
[22:17] <peterhil> Maybe I can find two 512 MB memmories for the install
[22:17] <nit-wit> peterhil, W7 will install it auto adjusts the OS to the host.
[22:17] <escott> W3ird_N3rd, maybe you need to restart the cron process to detect the new crontab entry
[22:17] <sklorpiom> coz_ no, but thats good idea to try some other irc clients if it works
[22:18] <cablop> nintet, try restarting and discard the naive issue, the one that the magic of new xorg won't detect your monitor ad treat it as an old one, it happens with my 1440x900... o i never turn that monitor off...
[22:18] <Customs> heyy
[22:18] <W3ird_N3rd> escott, I mean 23:10
[22:18] <sudokill> peterhil, it should run ok 512 is minimum ur CPU is slow though
[22:18] <anass> hello, I've a problem with apt, I can't install/update software, the problem is: http://pastebin.com/gY2Mabcr
[22:18] <peterhil> sudokill: I'm installing this machine for a friend's dad. I asked the same question and said Gnome 3 IS easier than Win7, but the friend still wants win
[22:18] <W3ird_N3rd> escott, I know it's executed, when I run "init 0 > /home/user/blaat.txt" it produces a file
[22:18] <W3ird_N3rd> from the crontab
[22:18] <W3ird_N3rd> but it won't shutdown
[22:19] <sudokill> peterhil, what exactly is the problem ur having?
[22:19] <escott> W3ird_N3rd, right... i don't know i can't imagine why it wouldn't let you shutdown like that
[22:19] <adwait_neo> Good night everyone :)
[22:19] <sudokill> peterhil, wont it install at all?
[22:19] <cablop> anass i'll change repositories, then sudo apt-get update then switch back and test
[22:19] <hypetech> what is the difference between the nvidia-current package and the proprietary nvidia driver ubuntu installs the first time I boot it?
[22:19] <W3ird_N3rd> escott, looks like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168781 has the same problem but no solution
[22:19] <sudokill> hypetech, nvidia proprietary is the official one
[22:19] <sudokill> closed source
[22:20] <sudokill> fastest
[22:20] <anass> cablop: is the problem from your repositories?
[22:20] <EmuAlert> Does Ubuntu run pretty well on all laptops? Are there any laptops/CPUs/GPUs I should stay away from?
[22:20] <cablop> hypetech: nvidia-current seems to be a metapackage depending on the latest proprietary driver
[22:20] <hypetech> sudokill: I noticed that if I install nvidia-current, then my Unity goes from 2D to normal by default
[22:20] <W3ird_N3rd> hypetech, appears to me it installs the old 173 driver when you boot
[22:20] <sudokill> EmuAlert look at the requirements
[22:20] <sudokill> on website
[22:20] <escott> W3ird_N3rd, what does it say in the blaat.txt?
[22:20] <edbian> EmuAlert, I don't think the laptop brand has much of a difference.  Finding a good wifi card and graphics card is much more important.
[22:20] <sudokill> hypetech, sorry i thougt u meant kernel driver
[22:21] <W3ird_N3rd> escott, empty file
[22:21] <cablop> anass, nope, but i think you can try to update the list from the main repositories, if switching back triggers same error then your local repos have a problem... i don't think in another cause of your problem, except file corruption or file locked
[22:21] <hypetech> sudokill: it does install a kernel module when I install nvidia-current from apt
[22:21] <escott> W3ird_N3rd, your could try &> blaat.txt see if something is in stderr
[22:21] <cablop> hypetech: nvidia-current are proprietary drivers also
[22:21] <W3ird_N3rd> hypetech, you want nvidia-current
[22:21] <edbian> EmuAlert, If you're buying a new machine you won't need to worry about system requirements
[22:21] <sudokill> hypetech, i thought u meant the driver thats enabled by default when u install ubuntu
[22:21] <Nintet> is there a tutorial about the new graphics stack in natty??????????
[22:21] <hypetech> ah
[22:21] <hypetech> ty all
[22:21] <W3ird_N3rd> hypetech, well unless you want nouveau offcourse
[22:22] <sudokill> hypetech, without installing anything
[22:22] <hypetech> W3ird_N3rd: what's nouveau?
[22:22] <sudokill> nvidia driver
[22:22] <cablop> hypetech nouveau is open source project for nvidia drivers
[22:22] <W3ird_N3rd> If you don't know you probably don't want to know :P open source nvidia driver
[22:22] <Nintet> what if i dont have nvidia?
[22:22] <W3ird_N3rd> but doesn't offer the same performance as the closed nvidia driver
[22:22] <Nintet> how do i manually set my screen resolution?
[22:22] <cablop> hypetech but if you don't care about all being open source go for the pnvidia proprietary ones, they work much better by now except for *VERY* old cards
[22:22] <sklorpiom> coz_ connection refused
[22:22] <sudokill> hypetech- the official nvidia driver is the best it should run fine
[22:23] <sklorpiom> coz_ smthing wrong with me
[22:23] <sudokill> Nintet, there should be a screen option in system settings or something
[22:23] <sudokill> called monitors or something
[22:23] <anass> cablop: I've not third party repos except disabled GNOME3 repo and I deleted it but the problem is still
[22:23] <coz_> sklorpiom,  not sure what is happening there,,, you have set the port manually ...yes?
[22:23] <EmuAlert> ebian: Is there any page that lists which cards I might have problems with? I'm sure I'll get a laptop with the minimum specs, but I don't want to find out that it comes with one of the few cards that has issues with Linux
[22:24] <sklorpiom> coz_ default for irc.ubuntu.com is 8001
[22:24] <edbian> EmuAlert, wifi cards or graphics cards?
[22:24] <escott> !hcl | EmuAlert
[22:24] <sudokill> EmuAlert, I think ubuntu has support for pretty much all wifi and gpus
[22:24] <sklorpiom> coz_ and if i force him to use 6667 it will not work
[22:24] <sudokill> with 11.04
[22:24] <EmuAlert> Ah alright. Gonna look at those lists
[22:25] <coz_> sklorpiom,  no one answered on #xchat channel?
[22:25] <edbian> EmuAlert, Here is a comprehensive list:  http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices/PCI
[22:26] <sklorpiom> coz_ i dodnt go there, i used some other client to check if problem is with xchat or my oper. system
[22:26] <EmuAlert> edbian: Thanks
[22:26] <edbian> EmuAlert, 99% of cards (wifi and video) will work.  Some may be more difficult to get working than others and some may work with lower powerformance
[22:26] <edbian> EmuAlert, Sure
[22:26] <W3ird_N3rd> escott, more empty files
[22:26] <joakimk> escott: so... sorry for bugging you again :) But I've got my 10.10 CD running, and ready to install. But I just want to be sure I don't mess up my other partitions.
[22:26] <coz_> sklorpiom,  ah , understood,, if you can get there  get into #xchat I bet they can help solve this one
[22:27] <sklorpiom> coz_ oks
[22:27] <joakimk> escott: I have a dual boot with Windows XP, and my ubuntu home dir on a separate partition
[22:27] <anass> cablop: I knew the cause of the problem! My ISP sometimes cut the internet and show me a bill page, this bill page downloaded in the list file, Can I remove them?
[22:27] <escott> W3ird_N3rd, you got me. you could try to put it into a bash script and verify the bash script works as expected before adding it to crontab
[22:27] <brokenlinux> nit-wit: sorry for delay - was trying a few things....if i hold shift while boot i only get the word GRUB next to the flashing cursor at which point it never goes further
[22:27] <edbian> joakim_, General rule of thumb.  If you format a partition you erase the data on it.
[22:28] <brokenlinux> if i boot from usb, i can get to the grub prompt but none of the various options will successfully set to root; i get either invalid partition, not a root device or invalid EFI file path
[22:28] <escott> joakimk, ok better to ask the channel, i've not actually done a reinstall to preserve /home partitions and i don't know what the menus look like
[22:28] <joakimk> escott: so I have this: http://bildr.no/view/888183
[22:28] <nit-wit> brokenlinux, have you installed a linux distro the gru> is a indicator of this.
[22:28] <W3ird_N3rd> escott, already done that, but I found something new.. 15 seconds
[22:28] <brokenlinux> at this point, it appears i can neither repair this install nor reinstall another
[22:28] <askhader> What is the name of the default ubuntu battery monitor applet?
[22:28] <nit-wit> brokenlinux, *grub>
[22:28] <joakimk> escott: right, I see
[22:29] <escott> W3ird_N3rd, should shutdown in 15 seconds then
[22:29] <W3ird_N3rd> I found the solution, seperate bash script was not it
[22:29] <brokenlinux> nit-wit: i recently upgraded to natty narwhal but yesterday my battery died on me as i was plugging in ac power and now i am stuck at this black screen with teh flashing cursor
[22:29] <W3ird_N3rd> 29 23 * * * /sbin/shutdown -h now
[22:29] <W3ird_N3rd> ^^ that was it escott and iridium
[22:29] <brokenlinux> and no matter what, my system says "system resuming" when i power it back on....despite having removed the battery, ram, hd, etc
[22:29] <webad_13> when I issue the following command: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o nls=utf8,fmask=0113,dmask=0002 /dev/sdb2 /mnt/sdb2   the sdb2 is mounted but permissions are: drwxrwxr-x root root ... I am not getting it, could someone explain
[22:29] <joakimk> but NTFS, that would be windows right?
[22:29] <anass> cablop: Can I delete all files, or I've to empty them one by one?
[22:30] <nit-wit> brokendatapoint, so you have a install do you want it fixed or a new install? The usb is not booting as well.
[22:30] <Nintet> the only help i find is for nvidia cards... what if i am using an intel card/??
[22:30] <escott> brokenlinux, are you trying to cross boot from the hdd with grub on the usb?
[22:30] <iridium> good
[22:30] <sudokill> brokenlinux, was the power cut off while updating?
[22:30] <edbian> webad_13, Is the ntfs windows 7 ntfs or windows xp ntfs??
[22:30] <brokenlinux> sudokill: no, the update got messed up, too, but i was able to repair that from booting to usb
[22:30] <brokenlinux> it worked for a couple days without problem
[22:30] <escott> webad_13, you probably want to add uid=1000,gid=1000 to your mount options
[22:31] <sudokill> brokenlinux, how was the update messed up?
[22:31] <joakimk> I guess my question is, what partition should I choose to reinstall Ubuntu on? http://bildr.no/view/888183
[22:31] <brokenlinux> escott: what does that mean?
[22:31] <anass> cablop: this is the file content: http://pastebin.com/wxWaPLvB
[22:31] <escott> webad_13, unless your concern was the fmask,dmask
[22:31] <nit-wit> brokenlinux,  so you have a install do you want it fixed or a new install? The usb is not booting as well.
[22:31] <brokenlinux> sudokill: it hung during dist-upgrade but like i said, it's worked since then and i've rebooted multiple times
[22:31] <escott> brokenlinux, where is the root system you are trying to boot? on the hard drive or on the usb stick
[22:31] <brokenlinux> nit-wit: i would like to just boot back to my OS like normal but i will reinstall if i must
[22:31] <joakimk> If I boot back to the hard disk, I can determine (verify) what device I've currently got Ubuntu on? And also verify what device has my /home dir?
[22:31] <brokenlinux> escott: hdd
[22:32] <webad_13> edbian: windows 7 ntfs, does it make difference?
[22:32] <escott> brokenlinux, im not sure if that is supported. i would boot the livecd then follow !grub chroot instructions to restore grub
[22:32] <webad_13> escott: yeah I am not concered with the user just the permissions
[22:32] <brokenlinux> escott: i would love to do that but i can't boot to the livecd
[22:33] <brokenlinux> it hangs at a black screen with a flashing cursor
[22:33] <brokenlinux> whether using usb or local hdd
[22:33] <nit-wit> brokenlinux, so besides the bios being set to boot the thumb/usb there is another gui to choose to boot the usb outside of the bios, does this sound familiar.
[22:33] <brokenlinux> i've never seen anthing like this
[22:33] <sudokill> joakimk, whats the matter
[22:33] <joakimk> I would think 36.5 GB is for my home dir, while the 15GB partition is for Ubuntu itself -- the OS?
[22:33] <brokenlinux> nit-wit: not particularly and i wonder how i'd get there from y current dilemma
[22:34] <joakimk> sudokill: I want to (re)install 10.10, without messing with the other partitions
[22:34] <sudokill> joakimk, looks like sda7 is home and sda6 is root
[22:34] <escott> joakimk, if you have any doubts boot to the livecd then check what the partitions have in them
[22:34] <joakimk> escott: I'm on the live CD now
[22:34] <sudokill> joakimk, check to make sure, but if sda7 is home then install to sda6 and it'll use sda7 as home, but make sure first if its defined as home
[22:34] <joakimk> sudokill: yes, I agree.. And definitely the 46.3 GB NTFS is XP
[22:34] <meLon> I am having issues with LIRC and my remote control.  I have made a post and wish that anybody with such knowledge check it out :D  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10850246
[22:35] <nit-wit> brokenlinux, your not booting the thumb period, try powering on and tapping the f12 key to begin with some computers have different key prompts eeepc is esc HP is another f key
[22:35] <joakimk> sudokill: how do I check?
[22:35] <ciunix> hi all, I have installed a tomcat in my server in a port different than the 8080, exactly the 20337. Now When I try to connect to tomcat with the browser, I can logged in with the user but when I try to arrive to the page "manager web app" I get the follow error: type Status report
[22:35] <ciunix> message Access to the requested resource has been denied.. What's wrong?
[22:35] <brokenlinux> nit-wit: my bios is definitely trying to boot from the thumb
[22:35] <joakimk> sudokill: should I boot back off the live cd, and onto the disk?
[22:36] <brokenlinux> it gives me the "try ubuntu w/o installing," "install," check disc options
[22:36] <escott> joakimk, there is a desktop icon to start the installer you dont need to reboot
[22:36] <sudokill> joakimk, try the disk manager it'll tell u there if u dont want command line
[22:36] <sudokill> or rin df from terminal
[22:36] <joakimk> escott: I'm booting back now, without the live cd
[22:36] <sudokill> run*
[22:37] <nit-wit> brokenlinux, the contention is not whether it is trying but that it isn't can you paly along here this is not new to me. Also how did you load the USB?
[22:37] <nit-wit> *play
[22:37] <Nintet> is there anyone here who can actually tell me how to configure an Intel grafix card in Natty?
[22:37] <Nintet> please?
[22:37] <Nintet> i know its funny to you guys
[22:37] <sudokill> Nintet, whats r u trying to cinfigure
[22:37] <escott> Nintet, configure it how?
[22:37] <emasarn> I have a bit of a problem. I cant view flash videos in fullscreen without the video starts to lag a lot. I had watched videos in HD on youtube before (in fullscreen) without any problems.
[22:37] <brokenlinux> nit-wit: sure right now i am just attempting to boot to usb by setting the bios option
[22:37] <Nintet> i am supposed to have 1920*1080
[22:37] <brokenlinux> this is exactly how i did it the other day during my dist-upgrade repair
[22:38] <Nintet> i have had that in every other OS
[22:38] <sudokill> go to monitors in the system settings and choose it
[22:38] <brokenlinux> nit-wit: can we start a private message to reduce chatter?
[22:38] <brokenlinux> i'll gladly post results back here if we fix it
[22:38] <escott> Nintet, check xrandr or gnome-display-properties
[22:38] <nit-wit> brokenlinux, sure
[22:38] <joakimk> sudokill: df tells me /dev/sda6 is /, whereas /dev/sda7 is /home
[22:38] <sudokill> joakimk, thats it then
[22:38] <pinguy> emasarn, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/07/speed-up-flash-and-firefox-in-ubuntu.html
[22:38] <sudokill> install to sda6
[22:39] <joakimk> sudokill: yes :) Booting back onto the CD now...
[22:39] <emasarn> pinguy: thanks :)
[22:39] <ciunix> hi all, I have installed a tomcat in my server in a port different than the 8080, exactly the 20337. Now When I try to connect to tomcat with the browser, I can logged in with the user but when I try to arrive to the page "manager web app" I get the follow error: type Status report
[22:39] <emasarn> Im using chrome, but I guess that doesnt matter
[22:39] <sudokill> joakimk leave swap as is obviously
[22:39] <pinguy> emasarn, nope
[22:39] <iPwnPenguins> i am having trouble installing network firmwware
[22:39] <pinguy> it speeds up the flash plugin
[22:39] <iPwnPenguins> any help?
[22:40] <sudokill> iPwnPenguins, what firmware
[22:40] <iPwnPenguins> wireless
[22:40] <Nintet> escott, it wont show anything higher than 1024*768
[22:40] <sudokill> iPwnPenguins, firmware or drivers?
[22:40] <iPwnPenguins> propiertyu driverware
[22:40] <iPwnPenguins> it says device not ready ( firmware missing)
[22:40] <iPwnPenguins> but when attempting to download it cannot fetch
[22:40] <sudokill> does it find it when u click on the additional drivers section?
[22:40] <zul_> #ubuntu-it
[22:41] <escott> Nintet, are you sure you are using intel and not vesa? what does glxinfo say for the OpenGL Renderer
[22:41] <pinguy> Nintet, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/set-your-screen-resolution-higher-than-you-should-with-newrez/
[22:41] <zul_> Who can help me in tomcat configuration?
[22:41] <iPwnPenguins> no
[22:41] <sudokill> iPwnPenguins, what card is it?
[22:41] <iPwnPenguins> second let me find
[22:42] <Nintet> escott, i dont have glxinfo installed
[22:42] <pinguy> Nintet, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/set-your-screen-resolution-higher-than-you-should-with-newrez/
[22:42] <boatdink> any juan good with intel graphics?
[22:42] <escott> Nintet, you could install glxinfo or read through your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:43] <sudokill> Nintet- apt-get install mesa-utils
[22:43] <joakimk> sudokill: so, I'll install to sda6. But format?
[22:43] <joakimk> sudokill: should I check the format box for that drive?
[22:43] <joakimk> ^ device
[22:43] <pinguy> Its an intel the xorg driver will be installed
[22:43] <sudokill> yea ull lose all ur programs etc but ur settings and whatevers in home will stay
[22:43] <pinguy> you just need to force it to use a higher res
[22:43] <sudokill> u have to format root to reinstall
[22:43] <joakimk> sudokill: yes. Guess there's no other wa
[22:44] <pinguy> newrez will do that
[22:45] <emasarn> thanks pinguy! It works great now. :)
[22:45] <joakimk> sudokill: so click the Delete button for sda6, then?
[22:45] <joakimk> sudokill: just want to preserve my home
[22:45] <pinguy> no problem emasarn
[22:45] <sudokill> i think so
[22:45] <sudokill> lol
[22:45] <sudokill> tbh i cant remember the install procedure
[22:45] <sudokill> something along the lines of delte sounds right
[22:45] <sudokill> delete/format
[22:45] <Nintet> escott, i cant make out any of the garbage from either the log file or the mesa utils
[22:46] <Nintet> its just too friggin hard. i havent had these problems with graphics since madrake 7
[22:46] <sudokill> | grep vga
[22:46] <sudokill> i think
[22:46] <pinguy> Nintet, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/set-your-screen-resolution-higher-than-you-should-with-newrez/
[22:46] <joakimk> sudokill: then I need to create a new partiton? With mount point "/" ?
[22:46] <pinguy> did you try that?
[22:46] <joakimk> ...and ext4?
[22:47] <sudokill> joakimk yes
[22:47] <sudokill> joakimk, mount point as /
[22:47] <sudokill> joakimk, for sda 6
[22:47] <boatdink> can somejuan pm for acer aspire juan intel gma950 tweaks?
[22:47] <iPwnPenguins> my driver is a broadcom STA wireless driver
[22:47] <escott> Nintet, grep vesa /var/log/Xorg.0.log you should see it unloaded. grep intel /var/log/Xorg.0.log you should see a lot of lines including mode identification
[22:47] <joakimk> sudokill: yes.. hehe, after deleting sda6, sda7 became sda6. So now the new partiton became sda7
[22:48] <joakimk> sudokill: But in any case I'll install to the (new) partition of 15GB size
[22:48] <sudokill> joakimk, whatever the new empty partition, that isnt home, install to that
[22:48] <Ovizu> how do i close running processes in terminal?
[22:48] <pinguy> iPwnPenguins, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[22:48] <Nintet> yeah vesa is autoconfigured driver 1
[22:48] <iPwnPenguins> @sudokill , "when attempting to activate driver i recieve 'failed to fetch cdrom
[22:48] <sklorpiom> CTRL+C
[22:48] <Ovizu> how do i close running process through the terminal
[22:49] <sudokill> iPwnPenguins, what are u actually doing?
[22:49] <iPwnPenguins> trying to activate wirless driver
[22:49] <joakimk> escott: reinstalling 10.10 now, and I can already see the jittering on the screen... even off the live CD
[22:49] <iPwnPenguins> to connect to internet
[22:49] <pinguy> Ovizu, killall then the process
[22:49] <sudokill> but how
[22:49] <iPwnPenguins> but says 'unable to locate package firmware
[22:49] <joakimk> escott: so I guess I'll be in later, to beg for help fixing my graphics drivers... :)
[22:49] <sudokill> iPwnPenguins, are u doing it from additional drivers or from source?
[22:50] <Ovizu> mandel@ubuntu:~$ killall weechat
[22:50] <iPwnPenguins> additional drivers
[22:50] <Ovizu> weechat: no process found
[22:50] <Nintet> so how do install the correct driver?
[22:50] <joakimk> escott: still, these 10.10 graphics problems are nowhere near the problems I had with 11.04!
[22:50] <Ovizu> how do i kill the weechat
[22:50] <sudokill> iPwnPenguins, im confused i thought nothing hsowed up in additional drivers?
[22:50] <peterhil> sudokill: I just asked about should windows be installed before ubuntu on a dual boot setup or on a separate partition. Other than that, my problem is that I have to install the bloat that win7 is and waste disk space.
[22:50] <pinguy> iPwnPenguins, sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[22:50] <peterhil> ...or on a separate disk
[22:50] <boatdink> has anyone here ran ubuntu on acer aspire one?
[22:50] <Nintet> joakim, please dont tell me that =(
[22:50] <escott> joakimk, it could just be a bad modeline
[22:50] <iPwnPenguins> @pinguy i did that, says "unable to locate package firmware-b43-installer
[22:50] <sudokill> peterhil, if ur dual booting install windows first cos windows boot loader dont recognise linux
[22:51] <sudokill> peterhil, its easier than having to redo grub etc
[22:51] <pmp6nl> Does anyone know how to change a pdf's properties?
[22:51] <pinguy> iPwnPenguins, then do sudo apt-get update
[22:51] <pinguy> its in the repo
[22:51] <Ovizu> ho do i kill weechat runnign process
[22:51] <LAcan> peterhil, alternatelt u can use EasyBCD for windows and add a grub entry
[22:51] <joakimk> escott: I believe I fixed it last time by creating the file /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf, with the line "options radeon modeset=0" in it
[22:51] <sudokill> iPwnPenguins, sorry i cant help
[22:51] <Ovizu> how do i get a list of all running processes and kill the ones i want to?
[22:51] <aptest> Ovizu: try weechat-curses ?
[22:51] <peterhil> sudokill: Yes, escott and cablop told me that if I install Ubuntu first, I need to reinstall grub
[22:51] <iPwnPenguins> @pinguy, "failed to fetch http//___link
[22:51] <iPwnPenguins> alright
[22:52] <peterhil> What's EasyBSD?
[22:52] <Nintet> man, this is ill... what do you people with intel cards do???
[22:52] <iPwnPenguins> any other reccomendation for an OS best suited for light weight / programming?
[22:52] <Ovizu> mandel@ubuntu:~$ weechat-curses
[22:52] <Ovizu> Error: unable to create/append to log file (weechat.log)
[22:52] <Ovizu> If another WeeChat process is using this file, try to run WeeChat
[22:52] <Ovizu> with another home using "--dir" command line option.
[22:52] <FloodBot1> Ovizu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:52] <sudokill> peterhil,  easybcd is to configure boot options
[22:52] <pinguy> iPwnPenguins, do you have any internet at all ?
[22:52] <Ovizu> sorry
[22:52] <iPwnPenguins> yeah on desktop
[22:52] <Ovizu> i think i already have weechat process running
[22:52] <Ovizu> and i need to kill it first
[22:52] <iPwnPenguins> but on my netbook no
[22:52] <sudokill> peterhil, i think its only for windows dual boots not sure never used it
[22:52] <iPwnPenguins> netbook = ubuntu
[22:53] <pinguy> plug in the laptop to the internet cable
[22:53] <boatdink> with 11.04 not soo much\
[22:53] <pinguy> once the drivers are installed
[22:53] <peterhil> LAcan, sudokill: ok, thanks. I also found that FS Drive it is possible to use ext3 partitions from Windows as ext2
[22:53] <pinguy> you will be fine
[22:53] <Ovizu> please help me
[22:53] <iPwnPenguins> kk
[22:53] <iPwnPenguins> thx
[22:53] <Ovizu> i need to shut downcertain process of weechat how do i do it
[22:53] <aptest> Ovizu: well your killall statement said only weechat
[22:53] <sudokill> peterhil, windows doesnt recognise
[22:53] <john_rambo> Trying to connect Dlink ADSL Router GLB 802 C via USB   ...... http://pastebin.com/ADQgksft  I am using another PC now ...ready to follow instructions
[22:53] <sudokill> afaik
[22:53] <peterhil> http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html#acc_ext3
[22:54] <sudokill> with a driver yes
[22:54] <Ovizu> aptest what do i do
[22:54] <aptest> Ovizu: i don't know try killall weechat-curses ? or find pid
[22:55] <sudokill> peterhil, is the ext drive a data one? if not u dont need a driver you dont need to have access to it
[22:55] <sudokill> in case u were wondering
[22:55] <Nintet> escott, how do i install the intel driver?
[22:55] <Nintet> escott, or configure it
[22:56] <sudokill> ext can read ntfs but not other way round e.g. windows read linux so grub can boot windows
[22:56] <dark_giovas> Hola ¿?
[22:56] <escott> Nintet, did you confirm you were running vesa?
[22:56] <userone> hello
[22:56] <pinguy> Ovizu, run gnome-system-monitor
[22:56] <sudokill> i worded that bad
[22:56] <pinguy> then find what you want to kill
[22:56] <Nintet> escott, when i grep them i see both in the config
[22:56] <dark_giovas> Ohh !!! i thought that i was alone
[22:56] <peterhil> sudokill: the ext partition that I thought might be shared, will be home
[22:56] <dark_giovas> i´ triying to learn how this thing work
[22:57] <sudokill> peterhil, ok
[22:57] <Nintet> escott, it said that vesa was autoconfigured as driver 1
[22:58] <sudokill> peterhil, i have no idea how reliable those drivers are
[22:58] <pinguy> Ovizu,?
[22:58] <pmp6nl> Does anyone know how to change a pdf's properties?
[22:58] <pinguy> did you try
[22:58] <simple_simon> hello
[22:58] <pinguy> gnome-system-monitor
[22:59] <escott> Nintet, can you !paste your log. im not sure you know what to look for
[22:59] <sudokill> pmp6nl, what r u trying to change
[22:59] <roasted> Question - with software raid on the alternate installer CD, I was not presented with a mount point option, raid type option, or the option to create an MD device. Why?
[22:59] <peterhil> sudokill: If it doesn't work, then I resize the Win or /home to accomodate for a FAT32 parition
[22:59] <Nintet> i would have to sign on from that machine
[23:00] <pmp6nl> sudokill I want to change the date
[23:00] <Nintet> thank god i have a working 10.10 over here
[23:00] <sudokill> pmp6nl, not sure sorry
[23:00] <pmp6nl> sudokill ok, thanks anyway
[23:01] <Ravyn> Is it possible to connect to the internet in Ubuntu 11.04 via command line?
[23:01] <sudokill> pmp6nl, do u mean the creating / modification date?
[23:01] <xxiao> where is float.h these days?
[23:01] <pmp6nl> sudokill yes, the created creation date
[23:01] <W3ird_N3rd> Ravyn, yes
[23:01] <xxiao> c++ has it, but ansi c does not have it, how to define stuff like FLT_MAX  then?
[23:02] <W3ird_N3rd> your question is a little vague though Ravyn
[23:02] <xxiao> a full grep found out nothing
[23:02] <Ravyn> My friend is trying to get his laptop to connect to my Wifi, and he's in Ubuntu right now. However, the icon in the top-right corner that should be there is not.
[23:02] <sudokill> pmp6nl, just done quick google theres program called pdfedit
[23:02] <sudokill> pmp6nl, not sure if it does what u want but u can try apt-get install pdfedit
[23:02] <W3ird_N3rd> Ravyn, you probably want to install/run network-manager
[23:02] <sudokill> pmp6nl, see if theres an option in there
[23:03] <sudokill> pmp6nl, but i have no idea sorry
[23:03] <Ravyn> He has no internet access.
[23:03] <pmp6nl> sudokill thanks I will take a look
[23:03] <xxiao> /lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3/include/float.h
[23:03] <xxiao> found it, finally
[23:04] <Nintet> downloading at 600bytes a second really sucks
[23:04] <sudokill> i wish i could eat that fast
[23:05] <escott> roasted, did you use the alt-instaler
[23:05] <Ravyn> Is it possible to connect to the internet with a command, and what command is it? That's all I need to know.
[23:05] <peterhil> What do you use for Flash video nowadays?
[23:05] <peterhil> I hope not Gnash...
[23:06] <escott> Ravyn, there is a network-manager command line tool, if he has the gui then gnome-network-properties would help
[23:07] <peterhil> Oh there is a Flash plugin from Adobe for Linux... I've used FreeBSD, where there is no plugin, and the Adobe plugin does not work with the Linux compat layer
[23:07] <Ravyn> He says Unity is broken.
[23:07] <Ravyn> Not working properly.
[23:07] <_Tristan> can I use dd to copy my drive to a raid array, then boot from that raid array?
[23:08] <escott> _Tristan, you shouldn't even need to do that, you should just be able to change the partition type to linux raid and then use mdadm to manage it
[23:08] <patcito> hey
[23:08] <roasted> escott, yes.
[23:08] <roasted> escott, I went through the installer and set up each 500gb drive to be software raid. then when it completed I realized I had no MD device.
[23:09] <escott> _Tristan, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_a_single_drive_system_to_RAID
[23:09] <_Tristan> escott: well, I've got a ssd and two empty harddrives, the system is running on the ssd, I need it to be running on the hard drives in a raid 1 and I did this: "mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=mirror --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda /dev/sdb" so far
[23:09] <roasted> escott, I looked up a guide on setting up software raid with the alt installer and it had steps I never saw. such as mount point, creating MD device, and what type of raid array I wanted. That's when I got confused on where I went wrong.
[23:09] <patcito> since I've upgraded to 11.04, Control+c does not have any effect in the console, it used to interrupt vlc, rails and more and now I have to kill the process manually, any idea how I could fix that?
[23:09] <escott> !paste | Nintet
[23:10] <escott> roasted, this is in the installed system? or on the livecd
[23:10] <roasted> escott, I used the alternate installer CD. Once completed is when I realized the full raid array did not exist.
[23:10] <roasted> escott, then I looked up a guide and it said I did everything right, but I was never presented with those options I Spoke about above.
[23:11] <Ravyn> Hey, I have an issue connecting to the internet wirelessly.  Unity is currently broken, so the GUI is not an option.  I need to use the CLI to connect to an unencrypted network with the SSID NETGEAR
[23:12] <Ravyn> Any takers?
[23:12] <servan> hi! i have a tablet pc(lenovo thinkpad x220 tablet). everytime when i touch the display the touch is registered but after then the mouse is jumping to the upper left corner of the display. is there any solution for that?
[23:12] <bindi> Ravyn: check google for automatic wifi ubuntu
[23:13] <escott> roasted, what does mdstat say
[23:13] <joakimk> escott: I managed to install, but after booting in to 10.10, I can't see my home/. But the 36GB drive is listed as a disk in the left bar of a file window. Here's the output of df: http://paste.ubuntu.com/611593. Can I fix this somehow, such that this drive is used/recognized as my home?
[23:13] <Pici> !google | bindi
[23:14] <Omega> !ssh > Omega
[23:14] <roasted> escott, I cannot say, because I am not in front of that system right now. However I tried to manually mount each drive and it errored out, saying it was part of an array. I also ran sudo fdisk -l, and there was no /dev/md0 like ther eshould have been.
[23:14] <Ovizu> is there linux support in tahitian language??
[23:14] <randomuser> joakimk, check your /etc/fstab, and read through `man fstab` if needed
[23:14] <escott> roasted, you can use the mdadm tools to probe for devices
[23:14] <Ovizu> is there a fully tahitian version of linux?
[23:14] <roasted> escott, even still, the alt installer did not perform as expected. I'm trying to figure out if I goofed or just somehow missed options.
[23:15] <joakimk> escott: I mean, when I choose Places > Home Folder, I get the new home folder. But the old home folder (on sda6) is only listed with it's own hard disk icon.
[23:15] <roasted> Question - what software can I use to transfer recorded video from my HDD Camcorder to my Ubuntu system?
[23:15] <Jordan_U> joakimk: Did you use manual partitioning when you re-installed? Did you select your /home/ partition to be mounted as /home/? More than just mounting the partition to /home/ that also causes the installer to recreate users as needed.
[23:16] <joakimk> Jordan_U: I did manual, tes
[23:17] <escott> joakimk, you need to fill in your fstab
[23:17] <joakimk> yes. But I don't believe I selected home = home... Maybe I could paste my fstab file?
[23:17] <kLown> samba question:  cant connect on 11.04 to win 7, or win7 to 11.04.  checked and doublechecked usernames, workgroups, and turned off passwords and still cant see eachother.
[23:17] <joakimk> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/611595
[23:18] <Jordan_U> joakimk: I would recommend you just re-install again, selecting your /home/ partition to be mounted to /home/ this time.
[23:18] <userWORLD_> hello
[23:18] <randomuser> Jordan_U, that's awfully time consuming for something with a simple fix
[23:18] <userWORLD_> WHO IS USING 11.04?
[23:18] <joakimk> Jordan_U: is that done when I create the new partition to hold the OS? As when I chose "mount point: /" etc?
[23:18] <szal> !caps | userWORLD_
[23:19] <syst3mw0rm_> check
[23:19] <syst3mw0rm_> test
[23:19] <randomuser> joakimk, make an entry in /etc/fstab to reflect your desired /home.
[23:19] <escott> joakimk, use blkid to identify the UUID of your home partition then make the entry
[23:19] <twohats> how would you folks pronouce etc?
[23:20] <randomuser> they type mount -a to effect the change, and log out and back in to see the result
[23:20] <Jordan_U> randomuser: True. I just didn't want to walk him through recreating his old user(s) as well as the Ubuntu installer would do.
[23:20] <randomuser> joakimk, this is a 45 second problem, do not reinstall
[23:20] <W3ird_N3rd> Ravyn, can he log out and log in again using Ubuntu classic (no effects) ?
[23:20] <randomuser> Jordan_U, then keep your mouth shit
[23:20] <Ravyn> He figured it out; thanks guys!
[23:20] <escott> joakimk, it will look like UUID=whateverfromblkid /home default 0 1
[23:20] <randomuser> ^shut. sorry
[23:20] <go8765432> can anybody help me please ? how i can change fronts in emphathy ?
[23:21] <_Tristan> how can I put ubuntu server on my usb drive from ubuntu server (with the command line, that is)?
[23:22] <Jordan_U> _Tristan: There is no single command for installing Ubuntu within Ubuntu.
[23:22] <Jordan_U> !install | _Tristan
[23:22] <joakimk> OK, I'll try to update my fstab :) Thanks for the help! But, blkid gives me no output...
[23:22] <Jordan_U> joakimk: sudo blkid
[23:22] <roasted> Question - what software can I use to transfer recorded video from my HDD Camcorder to my Ubuntu system?
[23:22] <_Tristan> Jordan_U: I don't want to install it to my flash drive, I want to make it a live usb
[23:23] <randomuser> joakimk, fdisk -l is pertinent as well
[23:23] <philipballew> can someone help with after a fixing my hardware my speakers dont work anymore and only my headphones do
[23:24] <Nintet> philipballew: did you take apart your machine?
[23:24] <adamkex> why is are these arguments in vlc  not working properly? i can not find my .sdp file? http://pastebin.ca/2067161
[23:24] <escott> philipballew, have you tried hda_analyzer
[23:24] <szal> !sound | philipballew
[23:25] <philipballew> Nintet dell put in a new motherboard heat sink and fan. i can hear the system beep on bios
[23:25] <Nintet> ah, they did not connect the speakers right?
[23:25] <Jordan_U> _Tristan: Ahh, OK. I'm looking to see if Unetbootin or Startup Disk Creator have terminal based front ends. If not I can walk you through setting it up manually.
[23:25] <_Tristan> Jordan_U: Ok, thanks so much
[23:25] <Nintet> i had to take apart my dell laptop after i spilled coffee all over it. they are just cables, the might have missed them
[23:26] <philipballew> Nintet i am not sure if its a hardware problem or if my computer doesnt know what to do with the new motherboard
[23:26] <Jordan_U> _Tristan: You're welcome.
[23:26] <joakimk> randomuser: mount -a gives me "unknown filesystem type 'default' "
[23:26] <escott> joakimk, UUID /home ext4 default 0 1
[23:26] <szal> philipballew: in the latter case, reinstalling the kernel might help, that'll trigger rebuilding the initramdisk
[23:26] <philipballew> Nintet see the speakers beep in the bios
[23:27] <silverarrow>  have anyone seed john rambo?
[23:27] <_Tristan> Jordan_U: can I just dd it?
[23:27] <Nintet> philipballew: what about the live boot disk or another OS?
[23:27] <Nintet> so they work there?
[23:27] <Jordan_U> !ot | silverarrow
[23:27] <Jordan_U> _Tristan: No.
[23:27] <_Tristan> aww :(
[23:28] <philipballew> i have a lubuntu disk i was going to try. windows does not make a live disk.
[23:28] <philipballew> Nintet
[23:28] <Jordan_U> _Tristan: There is no "Live" Ubuntu Server image that I'm aware of, I assume you mean the Ubuntu Server installer?
[23:28] <_Tristan> yeah
[23:29] <philipballew> i have a lubuntu disk i was going to try. windows does not make a live disk.  Nintet
[23:29] <joakimk> wow! Thanks you guys!! This is always equally impressive -- the skillset here, and even more so how helpful people are... Have a great week!
[23:29] <Nintet> philipballew, use the live CD, boot it, play some mp3's out of the speakers
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> philipballew: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[23:29] <philipballew> can i download the mp3 pluggins onto the live disk?
[23:30] <philipballew> ill just make a live usb
[23:30] <Nintet> i always just installed VLC
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> philipballew: yes, you can install apps to the live environment
[23:30] <silverarrow> philipballew, you have trouble buring iso image?
[23:30] <MODspartan> hey guys, with unity
[23:30] <Nintet> might want to try and DL puppy or slax or something small and try that out as a repair disk... but you can play wav or whatever... radio stations
[23:30] <MODspartan> terminal does not stay in teh sidebar
[23:30] <MODspartan> anyone have that problem?
[23:31] <philipballew>  Nintet nope. i can do that. i know my way around unity very well
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> MODspartan: when it's running, right click the unity entry and select "keep in launcher"
[23:31] <Nintet> =( i dont know unity at all
[23:31] <MODspartan> i do that
[23:31] <MODspartan> but it doesnt stick at all, not sure whats wrong
[23:32] <escott> joakimk, i realized that last field should be 2 not 1
[23:32] <MODspartan> im running unity-2d because vmware has a problem with unity
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> MODspartan: then press Super and type 'terminal' then drag the icon to the unity bar
[23:32] <joakimk> escott: yeah? It still worked... ;)
[23:32] <escott> joakimk, yeah but the check order is wrong, change it to 2 or it may mess up some boots
[23:32] <escott> joakimk, i should have read the man page before sending you that
[23:33] <joakimk> escott: hehe... an error occurred while mounting /home
[23:33] <joakimk> escott: S to skip, or M for manual recovery?
[23:33] <silverarrow> philipballew; both works, bootable CD or USB
[23:34] <ZeZu> I'm having some issues w/ iec958 output (digital optical) :  my head unit does say its getting a valid stereo signal, however I cannot get anything to play using aplay -D w/ the correct params,   i get a aplay: set_params:1065: Channels count non available
[23:34] <MODspartan> ActionParsnip: Im trying, but the dash doesnt let me drag anything
[23:34] <escott> joakimk, was this on your reboot? i would skip i guess?
[23:34] <MODspartan> ActionParsnip: maybe its just unity 2d "/
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> MODspartan: maybe its a 2D thing
[23:34] <Nintet> please graphix guru please tell me how to fix my screen resolution
[23:34] <joakimk> escott: I did M, which gave me a prompt where I could edit (fix) the fstab file. GOod?
[23:35] <joakimk> escott: yes, it was after reboot
[23:35] <MODspartan> ActionParsnip: thanks for tryin
[23:35] <escott> joakimk, sure... you may also want to verify that it is in fact ext4 that was just an assumption/maybe fsck it
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> MODspartan: install guake, much easier ;)
[23:35] <sparrW> My dock is stuck open. How can I get rid of it?
[23:36] <MODspartan> ActionParsnip: whats that?
[23:36] <joakimk> escott: oh, now I'm getting "unrecognized mount option "default" or missing value" again... But I *did* choose ext4 when installing. But maybe the home (from before) was something else
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> MODspartan: its a terminal which appears and hides with a hotkey, like the terminal in Quake
[23:36] <supercom32> Does sftp use checksums to verify data sent? I was using filezilla do to sftp transfers and over large files (> 2gig) it seems to corrupt them if a pause/resume or data connection was broken. Any ideas? Or should I use rsync instead?
[23:37] <randomuser> joakimk, 'defaults' , not 'default'
[23:37] <MODspartan> ActionParsnip: haha thanks ill try it
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> supercom32: you can connect to sftp with nautilus
[23:37] <randomuser> supercom32, IMO, you should always use rsync unless there is no other option. Unless you are moving files within the same filesystem
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> MODspartan: check out some videos of it, it's awesome
[23:38] <joakimk> but how do I check the "type" of /dev/sda6 -- my "old" home/ ?
[23:38] <roasted> Question - with software raid on the alternate installer CD, I was not presented with a mount point option, raid type option, or the option to create an MD device. Why?
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> joakimk: sudo parted -l | grep sda6
[23:39] <roasted> Question - what software can I use to transfer recorded video from my HDD Camcorder to my Ubuntu system?
[23:39] <escott> joakimk, just change the entries then try to mount the partition
[23:39] <Jordan_U> _Tristan: See: http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/unetbootin/wiki/commands , though it may still try to pop up a GUI dialog making in fail without an X server.
[23:39] <supercom32> randomuser: Does Rsync guarentee file intregrety? Even if connection is broken and resume is needed? Is there a reason why it's better than sftp?
[23:39] <_Tristan> thanks
[23:39] <Jordan_U> _Tristan: You're welcome.
[23:39] <randomuser> supercom32, rsync checksums, yes
[23:39] <escott> joakimk, if it works you got the right type. alternately you could explicitely "sudo mount /dev/sda# /home; mount" and see what type it says mount will figure out what type it si
[23:40] <Jordan_U> roasted: Does your camera show up as a removable disk when you plug it in?
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> joakimk: ok forget the grep
[23:40] <roasted> Jordan_U, no. it shows up as nothing. both in windows and ubuntu.
[23:40] <roasted> Jordan_U, even if I do sudo fdisk -l it shows no additional hdd devices
[23:40] <randomuser> supercom32, it will resume on broken, and is designed to prevent corruption with remote file transfers.
[23:40] <supercom32> randomuser: Does it do files sequentially, or can you have it do multiple files in parallel? I ask because usually it maxes out bandwith better.
[23:40] <supercom32> ah
[23:40] <escott> roasted, not all cameras export usb mass storage. in fact many use their own usb protocol
[23:41] <randomuser> supercom32, it should saturate your connection, but the transfers are sequential
[23:41] <joakimk> all seems to be well :D
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> supercom32: rsync connects to the ssh service, so will be secure like sftp
[23:41] <roasted> escott, so how would I get videos off of it?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> roasted: Then you'll likely need to treat it the same as a camera that uses DV tape. PiTiVi can do this and comes with Ubuntu by default (though there are many other options as well).
[23:41] <supercom32> Ah, thanks everyone!
[23:41] <roasted> Jordan_U, pitivi can extract video???
[23:42] <joakimk> so now I guess the recommended action is to update tons of missing packages...?  Synaptic Package Manager, or Update Manager?
[23:42] <YankDownUnder> roasted, What are you trying to do - extract a video, or convert a video?
[23:42] <randomuser> supercom32, file transfers in parallel just means more overhead and less data transfer, right?
[23:42] <roasted> YankDownUnder, I have lots of video recorded on the hard drive of a hdd-loaded camcorder. I want the video OFF of it so I can use it like I bought the camcorder for.
[23:43] <roasted> YankDownUnder, but it doesnt show up as a removal device in windows or linux. I have zero clue on what I can do.
[23:43] <escott> roasted, what does lsusb say about it
[23:43] <infinitux> not sure if i'm too impressed with 11.04
[23:43] <silverarrow> anyone good with hardware ? I am booting up to a totally black screen, no bios logo or boot up options even. It sounds like the computer boots up regularly
[23:44] <escott> !classic | infinitux, give unity some time it can grow on you
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: ask in ##hardware
[23:44] <YankDownUnder> roasted, yeah mate - try seeing what it shows up as for "lsusb" => it might be that the usb-storage mod isn't loading...
[23:44] <infinitux> no i mean my screen flicker
[23:44] <escott> silverarrow, sounds like your video card may not be working
[23:44] <infinitux> not happy that my brand new computer doesn't look so healthy
[23:44] <infinitux> brb (reboot
[23:44] <supercom32> randomuser: Well, I seem to max out at around 300-kbs per transfer. If I do multiple connections I can go like 2mbit or so.
[23:44] <sparrW> escott: when unity has a taskbar, and stops running so slowly, and the dock stops getting stuck open, then we'll talk. until then, i'm still planning to move to kubuntu for a while.
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: if you hold shift, does grub show?
[23:45] <silverarrow> no
[23:45] <roasted> escott, I do see hitachi as a usb device.
[23:45] <escott> roasted, can you give us the full string
[23:45] <YankDownUnder> roasted, I'll assume the cam IS a Hitachi, eh?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: i'd ask in the hardware channel dude
[23:45] <silverarrow> it might be worth getting a new video card then
[23:45] <roasted> escott, Bus 001 Device 014: ID 04a4:0043 Hitachi, Ltd
[23:45] <escott> roasted, i am assuming this is connected through usb and not firewire
[23:45] <roasted> YankDownUnder, of course :)
[23:45] <roasted> escott, yes, firewire.
[23:45] <roasted> err
[23:45] <roasted> usb
[23:45] <FloodBot1> roasted: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:45] <silverarrow> I cannot enter hardware actionparsnip ?
[23:46] <YankDownUnder> roasted, Just checkin mate...
[23:46] <silverarrow> maybe I need to be loggedin
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: #hardware
[23:46] <silverarrow> invite only
[23:46] <silverarrow> hmm
[23:46] <randomuser> supercom32, rsync will not work in parallel.  Just let it do its thing.  If you're watching aggregate interface throughput, be aware that every file transfer has a percentage of overhead...
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> silverarrow: yeah I think you need to be identified
[23:46] <randomuser> silverarrow, identify
[23:46] <joakimk> thanks again! good night from my part of the world
[23:46] <escott> roasted, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1610163
[23:46] <wonginator1221> is there any reason that nautilus should be using 300MBs of ram?
[23:47] <randomuser> wonginator1221, thumbnail previews would do it
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> wonginator1221: try:   nautilus -q
[23:47] <dijonyummy123> i'm trying to install/make httrack, but it cant find zlib library in /usr. im on 10.10, despite fact i have zlib1g installed already
[23:47] <wonginator1221> randomuser: what about 800+MBs?
[23:48] <wonginator1221> I think there's a memory leak somewhere
[23:48] <supercom32> randomuser: I realize that. But for the speed gains, a few (like 3 more transfers) seems to pay out for me before I get diminishing returns. Hrm...
[23:48] <aerholt> join #ubuntu-se
[23:48] <aerholt> -_-
[23:49] <randomuser> wonginator1221, turn off thumbnails, would be my first step.  Use thunar if its too much
[23:49] <escott> wonginator1221, a lot of stuff gets shared between x programs and double counted 300 sounds high but its not a big deal unless free shows you using swap
[23:49] <Jordan_U> randomuser: I am amazed to find that PiTiVi does not support importing from DV cameras. Kino howerver does (though I've only used it with Firewire so I can't attest to doing the same with USB).
[23:49] <randomuser> supercom32, run `dstat` on both machines to know for sure
[23:49] <randomuser> Jordan_U, tab fail?
[23:49] <niccolo> hi to all,
[23:50] <niccolo> my name is niccolo and i have a question
[23:50] <silverarrow> darn I messed up login, it's too long since I have been here
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> niccolo: ask away
[23:50] <roasted> welcome niccolo :)
[23:50] <Jordan_U> randomuser: Yes, sorry.
[23:51] <niccolo> how can i set the correct physical dimensions (in mm)  of my monitor?
[23:51] <Jordan_U> roasted: I am amazed to find that PiTiVi does not support importing from DV cameras. Kino howerver does (though I've only used it with Firewire so I can't attest to doing the same with USB).
[23:52] <randomuser> niccolo, what is the goal ?
[23:52] <escott> niccolo, if you use ati radeonhd or intel you can use xrandr to set the dpi correctly
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> niccolo: do you mean you have a low resolution?
[23:52] <Jordan_U> roasted: Kino does not support USB capture. Do you have a firewire port / cable?
[23:52] <niccolo> randomuser, the goal is to have the correct DPI
[23:52] <Josiah-e482> Hi!
[23:52] <randomuser> escott, xrander is a base X package, it dowsn't depend on a specific video driver
[23:53] <roasted> Jordan_U, nope. firewire is old anyway. :P
[23:53] <escott> randomuser, nvidia proprietary doesn't support most xrandr features >1.2 they have their own way of doing stuff
[23:53] <wonginator1221> escott: I'm currently using 8 gigs of ram (I don't have a swap partition) and I caught nautilus using over 850MBs of ram the other day.  It ran me into a situation where I was getting memory allocation errors (no more memory available).  I restarted nautilus and the problem seemed to subside, but it seemed really odd that nautilus was using more ram than firefox with 15 tabs open.
[23:53] <niccolo> ActionParsnip, no my resolution is correct but in the output of the xdpyinfo i see that the monitor size is incorrect
[23:53] <redstar> hey does anyone know the any URLs of any good internet radio stations for banshee
[23:54] <wonginator1221> randomuser: how does the functionality of thunar compare to nautilus
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> wonginator1221: did nautilus -q   make it ok?
[23:55] <Josiah-e482> Hey guys, I need help installing Ubuntu on my laptop.
[23:55] <randomuser> wonginator1221, similar, if a little more basic; try it and see. General browing of filesystems, you might notice little difference.  Give it a try, its easy enough
[23:55] <wonginator1221> ActionParsnip: yes it did.  I've 'killall'ed it previously
[23:55] <PipeToDevNull> Josiah: What flavor of help?  I just installed on this machine yesterday.
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> Josiah-e482: what issues are you getting? did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[23:55] <Jordan_U> roasted: Have you tried treating the camera as a webcam in PiTiVi?
[23:56] <go876543> can anybody help me to change empathy fronts in theme "ubuntu" ?
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> wonginator1221: what is the output of:   lsb_release -d
[23:56] <Josiah-e482> @ActionParsnip    I have the least bit of an idea what you mena
[23:56] <wonginator1221> 11.04
[23:56] <aerholt> redstar: maybe you can find something at SomaFM
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Josiah-e482
[23:56] <wonginator1221> ActionParsnip: Description:	Ubuntu 11.04
[23:56] <redstar> thanx im kinda tired of pandora
[23:57] <dibblego> is there a command to learn what distribution you are using?
[23:57] <roasted> Jordan_U, Im not sure hwo to do that
[23:57] <escott> dibblego, lsb_release -d
[23:57] <dibblego> great thanks
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> dibblego: for the whole distro use: lsb_release -a
[23:57] <philipballew> Nintet the live usb did the same thing. sound through the headphone jack but not the speakers
[23:57] <dibblego> got it cheers
[23:57] <Jordan_U> roasted: Go to Project > Import from webcam (if it's not greyed out).
[23:58] <graphixprob> Hi, I'm having difficulty starting X in a fresh install of Natty.  Rebooting under Failsafe X does work.  I tried to install nvidia-current but that driver is too new for my Geforce TI 4200.  I also attempted to install NVIDIA's 96.43.19 driver from their website, but just get a blank screen when I start up.  I can still access the TTY and login through there, but X does not function.  What should I try next?
[23:58] <go876543> anybody use emphathy? how i cam change fronts?
[23:58] <roasted> Jordan_U, it is grayed out
[23:58] <escott> roasted, i don't know if that would even work. i very much doubt that things will just work if they are using their own protocol. and if it doesnt show up as a mass storage device they are by definition using their own protocol. try mdiswrapper
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> graphixprob: the 96 driver is in the repos
[23:58] <escott> philipballew, hda_analyzer
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> graphixprob: you may need to run:  nvidia-xconfig    in a root recovery console
[23:59] <silverarrow> I have no picture in VLC, it happened after installing DVD codecs for the media player
[23:59] <roasted> escott, ndiswrapper and... what? ndiswrapper is a gizmo for winders drivers. how would I use that to my benefit if I Cant even get it to work on windows?
[23:59] <escott> philipballew, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alsa-project.org%2Fmain%2Findex.php%2FHelp_To_Debug_Intel_HDA&rct=j&q=hda_analyzer&ei=OpXZTb_ALIHi0QHyqcX8Aw&usg=AFQjCNHC7mW5BTaI-cR17G6NRXgoc64ahA&sig2=uCA8X6i_sMh8BnqBsfRzIQ&cad=rja
[23:59] <Jordan_U> roasted: Is there any output from "lsmod | grep uvcvideo"?
[23:59] <philipballew> escott whats that
[23:59] <escott> philipballew, sorry that was the long googlified link http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA
[23:59] <silverarrow> any idea how to go about trouble shooting no picture in media player?
[23:59] <Josiah-e482> Also, my computer keeps disconnecting and reconnecting on the wireless randomly. I'm having to use Fedora's LiveUSB to get this thing to work at all.