[03:18] <killux> so anyway, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 8.04 and after a couple of minutes in firefox, whenever I click on any link, Ubuntu will crash. I even downgraded to firefox 2 to check if firefox 3 was causing the problem but it wast. What else could it be?
[03:18] <musikgoat> kebert_xela: i ran nvidia-xconfig
[03:18] <jedimind> well permanently until further notice
[03:18] <saywatmang> Is there a way to restore my Xorg.conf file... Mine got deleted
[03:18] <musikgoat> kebert_xela: but no, i did not run the shell script
[03:19] <Vock> i'm having some sound issues, is there anyone that has the time to help?
[03:19] <kebert_xela> musikgoat: you need to reinstall the driver by running nvidia's script whenever you update your kernel
[03:19] <jedimind> saywatmang: there should be backups of it
[03:19] <musikgoat> kebert_xela: thanks
[03:19] <kebert_xela> np
[03:20] <n> I need help with iptables.  I have a program that will only listen on port 3784, but 3784 is blocked.  I want to direct incoming traffic on port 50001 to 3784, and vice versa.
[03:20] <n> I've tried using iptables, but i get the error: iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
[03:20] <scapegoat_> how do i manually start tftpd?
[03:20] <pawan> hi
[03:20] <puff> Geoffrey2: I find it annoying, but it's a matter of resource consumption - if every tab/window ran in its own process, it'd consume a heckof a lot more resources.  I'd like the option to force this in some cases, though.
[03:20] <BCM43> killux: check swap, and if that is fine, are you on a ppc?
[03:21] <grim76> scapegoat_ try sudo /etc/init.d/tftp start dunno if that will work or not.
[03:21] <killux> BCM43: what do you mean check swap? and no im not ona ppc
[03:21] <MindVirus> What exactly is the "netbook remix"?
[03:21] <scapegoat_> grim76, no such file or directory, i'm using tftpd instead of tftpd-hpa
[03:22] <ksbalaji> Hi friends! bye!
[03:22] <saywatmang> jedimind, where ?
[03:23] <Geoffrey2> puff, I'll just remember when I'm doing something important and non-savable in one tab, DON'T go into youtube on another.....
[03:23] <puff> Geoffrey2: interesting lesson I just learned about CPU scaling.
[03:23] <n> I need help with iptables.  I have a program that will only listen on port 3784, but 3784 is blocked.  I want to direct incoming traffic on port 50001 to 3784, and vice versa.
[03:23] <amrik> MindVirus: i think its a version of Ubuntu designed for the new class of of computers, netbooks eg. eeepc
[03:23] <MindVirus> I know.
[03:23] <MindVirus> But whatever it is, I want parts of it.
[03:23] <puff> Geoffrey2: I've been having excessive temperature issues, so I have CPU scaling enabled, since most of the time I have way more CPU than I need.  So far, it's been keeping it fairly cool.
[03:24] <Kernel> hello all can someone help me with this....while using the command route im getting this error : SIOCADDRT: No such process
[03:24] <MindVirus> amrik, do you know how to get that sweet panel where it looks like the currently selected program in the taskbar is a tab?
[03:24] <jedimind> saywatmang: where what ?
[03:24] <puff> Geoffrey2: However, I just restarted firefox - swiftfox, actually, which may have something to do with this - and some of the pages I had open caused popups (I really hate this, especially since the popups get buried under new windows).
[03:24] <jpg_ny> scapegoat: you have some mention of tftpd in your inetd.conf ?
[03:24] <BCM43> kernel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=575512
[03:24] <amrik> MindVirus: no but I am very much interested in the answer to your question. do you have any clues?
[03:25] <puff> Geoffrey2: I ignored that for 5 or 10 minutes, letting it bring everything up while I did other stuff, then I noticed my CPU scaling was pegged at the max, and my machine was getting much hoter.
[03:25] <tma> how can I install a font in hardy?
[03:25] <puff> Geoffrey2: I found/clicked the popups and the CPU dropped to a lower freq and the temp cooled down.
[03:25] <e-rod_> $IP
[03:25] <amrik> tma: put it in your .fonts and run fc-cache -v
[03:25] <Kernel> BCM43: hmm should i install wicd?
[03:25] <Kernel> BCM43: and what network manager is that reffering to?...
[03:25] <e-rod_> $IP
[03:25] <tma> amrik, thax, gonna try that
[03:25] <musikgoat> +
[03:25] <MindVirus> amrik, I have a picture.
[03:25] <Pixeltime> if anyone has seen my eyes rolling around, please DCC them to me asap
[03:26] <musikgoat> thanks again kebert_xela
[03:26] <e-rod_> $IP
[03:26] <amrik> send pls
[03:26] <musikgoat> right on
[03:26] <[On\OFF]> How to install glxboot on ubuntu 8.04? Is it possible?
[03:26] <e-rod_> $IP
[03:26] <MindVirus> amee2k, http://arstechnica.com/news.media/remixfiles.png
[03:26] <kebert_xela> musikgoat: anytime
[03:26] <e-rod_> $IP
[03:26] <musikgoat> kebert_xela: is there a way to automate this process when updating?
[03:26] <tma> amrik, hmmm, didn't work ... do I have to reboot?
[03:27] <AlexCONRAD> hi, is there some kind of list where I can found all the debien-installer questions so I can create my preseed file?
[03:27] <amrik> tma: where are you trying to use the font? also use paste.ubuntu.com and paste me the output of fc-cache -v. do you have fontconfig installed?
[03:27] <amrik> MindVirus: woah that looks pretty sweet. is that supposed to replace the taskbar at the bottom?
[03:27] <kebert_xela> musikgoat: not that i know of
[03:27] <BCM43> Kernel: im not sure
[03:27] <scapegoat_> jpg_ny, just includedir /etc/xinetd.d
[03:28] <SomeGuy> fdsfds
[03:28] <tmapj> can someone please help me with my restricted driver, accelerated graphics driver? every time i enable it my system loads to a blank screen.
[03:28] <MindVirus> amrik, the article talks about some sort of "Maximus".
[03:28] <scapegoat_> jpg_ny, which has the tftp config file, which i guess points to /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
[03:28] <jpg_ny> scapegoat: hum ... something like /usr/sbin/in.tftpd should start it no ?
[03:28] <SomeGuy> hey, my mouse isn't working, I have finally reproduced the problem, does anyone know any troubleshooting stuff I can do now to see what's happening?
[03:28] <kebert_xela> musikgoat: i'm sure one could write a shell script but i haven't played around with it
[03:29] <musikgoat> i'll remember it next time...
[03:29] <cao> hi,how to check if my ubuntu system is blocked by any firewall. anybody have some idea?
[03:29] <kebert_xela> ya at least it's not too often
[03:29] <f411guy> SomeGuy: What do you mean by "not working"?  As in not at all, do you see a cursor but no movement, choppy movement, etc.  USB or PS/2 mouse?
[03:30] <SomeGuy> f411guy, cursor but no movement
[03:30] <SomeGuy> f411guy, unplugging and plugging it back in doesn't work either
[03:30] <MindVirus> amrik, http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080604-hands-on-with-the-ubuntu-netbook-remix.html
[03:30] <SomeGuy> f411guy, I think the whole USB thing gets screwed up somehow
[03:30] <amrik> MindVirus: got the link. is there a package available? this thing looks amazing for my laptop
[03:30] <[On\OFF]> How to install glxboot on ubuntu 8.04? Is it possible?
[03:31] <scapegoat_> jpg_ny, now I get a no boot filename received error from the other computer
[03:31] <jpg_ny> scapegoat: you have setup a tftpboot as well ?
[03:31] <MindVirus> amrik, it says it needs some bug fixing before it's ready - there's a screen name with the GIMP - http://media.arstechnica.com/news.media/451/remixgimp.png
[03:31] <MindVirus> amrik, I'm willing to beta test though.
[03:31] <MindVirus> amrik, I am looking for a package.
[03:31] <scapegoat_> jpg_ny, yes i have
[03:31] <MindVirus> Any ubuntu folks around?
[03:31] <dieu>
[03:31] <tma> amrik, ok man, i got it. thanx for the help
[03:31] <f411guy> Ok.  Has it always done this, or is it a new occurance?  Has it ever worked correctly, or just developing issues as of late?
[03:32] <amrik> tma: k no prob
[03:32] <jpg_ny> jpg_ny: a common mistake is the permission on tftpboot most of the time as nobody
[03:32] <Pixeltime> Mindvirus: only 1,207 ;)
[03:32] <Kernel> hmm ok thanks anyways BCM43
[03:32] <scapegoat_> jpg_ny, what should it be
[03:32] <MindVirus> Pixeltime, heh.
[03:33] <`Kermudge> MinVirus best to ask your question and await a response.
[03:33] <jpg_ny> scapegoat: sudo chown -R nobody.nogroup /tftpboot
[03:33] <n> I need help with iptables.  I have a program that will only listen on port 3784, but 3784 is blocked.  I want to direct incoming traffic on port 50001 to 3784, and vice versa.
[03:33] <Pixeltime> WAR KITTENS ?
[03:33] <tmapj> can someone help me with my accelerated graphics driver, which is a restricted driver. every time i enable it, my system loads to a blank screen.
[03:33] <Pixeltime> ;)
[03:33] <scapegoat_> jpg_ny, nobody.nobody: invalid user
[03:33] <nicknock> has anyone get ubontu to work with skype with 64 bit?
[03:33] <jpg_ny> scapegoat: and also sudo chmod -R 777 /tftpboot
[03:33] <dieu> anyone know how to share folders- it wont let us
[03:34] <scapegoat_> jpg_ny, oops there we go
[03:34] <f411guy> SomeGuy: If you do 'lsusb' does the mouse show up?  If it does, is it referenced correctly in xorg.conf?  Can you 'cat /dev/path-to-mouse' and get characters on the screen when you move the mouse?
[03:34] <MindVirus> Does anyone know what software this is and how I can get it? I heard it being called Maximus but I can't find it in APT. http://media.arstechnica.com/news.media/451/remixconfig.png
[03:34] <MindVirus> It looks REALLY cool.
[03:34] <PEZ> does anyone here use a firewall? Whats the best one?
[03:35] <tmapj> can someone help me with my accelerated graphics driver, which is a restricted driver. every time i enable it, my system loads to a blank screen.
[03:35] <Jaffarkelshac> i use firestarter pez
[03:35] <jpg_ny> scapegoat: it works ?
[03:35] <SomeGuy> f411guy, I'm starting to believe this mouse is just bogus
[03:35] <PEZ> thats what i am using. putting in my allowed ports right now
[03:35] <SomeGuy> f411guy, I tried another USB device, it lit up
[03:35] <SomeGuy> f411guy, then I tried another USB mouse, it worked
[03:36] <MindVirus> Anyone know?
[03:36] <SomeGuy> f411guy, then I unplugged my mouse and plugged it back in, now nothing works on the USB
[03:36] <f411guy> Someguy: if the mouse doesn't 'light up' when you plug it in, then yeah I would go with the mouse being shot
[03:36] <SomeGuy> hmm
[03:36] <amrik> MindVirus: apparently the source is available for it, but i dont think its been packaged up as yet?
[03:36] <SomeGuy> f411guy, lsusb is taking forever to return
[03:37] <SeaPhor> tmapj, do you have anything other than just ubuntu running?
[03:37] <MindVirus> amrik, :(
[03:37] <f411guy> someguy: then it sounds like it's hanging.  Plug in the 'good' USB mouse, reboot, and then try it.  See if that fixes it.
[03:37] <tmapj> seaphor i dont know
[03:37] <tmapj> seaphor yes i fo
[03:37] <tmapj> do
[03:37] <amrik> MindVirus: https://launchpad.net/netbook-remix
[03:37] <SomeGuy> f411guy, plugging in the crappy mouse and rebooting works, but then this happens randomly again
[03:37] <elmer> does anybody know where XChat keeps its scripts?
[03:38] <tmapj> seaphor what should i do? disable the other startup programs?
[03:38] <SomeGuy> f411guy, is there a way to reboot the USB controller or something?
[03:38] <MindVirus> amrik, good call.
[03:38] <SomeGuy> f411guy, the module that controls it
[03:38] <`Kermudge> elmer there are few of them.
[03:38] <amrik> MindVirus: can you try it out and tell me how it is? i kind of want to use this on my laptop now
[03:38] <f411guy> someguy: have you tried different usb ports?  Is it a possibiliy that your usb controller might be what is dying?  Yeah, you'd have to unload it and reload it from the kernel id imagine
[03:39] <MindVirus> amrik, this computer cannot shut down.
[03:39] <elmer> `Kermudge, XChat can load scripts, nevermind
[03:39] <f411guy> someguy: the usb module that is
[03:39] <SomeGuy> f411guy, it's the whole thing
[03:39] <SeaPhor> tmapj, need to know that in the question you ask here, need to know more details, thats why no one is answering you
[03:39] <MindVirus> amrik, plus, I'm kinda scared of installing from source.
[03:39] <SomeGuy> f411guy, it locks and none of the ports are working after it gets into this
[03:39] <tmapj> what details do you need?
[03:39] <`Kermudge> Yikes power flickering outa here. :(
[03:39] <SomeGuy> f411guy, however, I think the entire controller locking is because of me unplugging and plugging in this mouse, that's the common trend
[03:39] <tmapj> SeaPhor, what details do you need?
[03:39] <PEZ> whats the best window manager?
[03:39] <amrik> MindVirus: if you build it as a package you should be fine
[03:39] <SomeGuy> f411guy, this is the first time I tried plugging something in before unplugging the mouse
[03:40] <MindVirus> amrik, how would I do that?
[03:40] <Vock> I'm getting no sound at all since i installed ubuntu, it's only using PC speaker, anyone have any ideas?
[03:40] <SomeGuy> f411guy, and it worked, but once I messed with that mouse, it screwed up again and now I can't use any USB devices
[03:40] <SeaPhor> tmapj, i dont know the answer, just trying to help you get your question answered
[03:40] <Jaffarkelshac> anyone use ipod with ubuntu?
[03:40] <dudafmendes> hi, does anyone uses gnome-do?
[03:40] <f411guy> someguy: Ihmm
[03:40] <f411guy> someguy: try this ...
[03:40] <tmapj> SeaPhor,  what details should i provide?
[03:40] <f411guy> someguy: 'lsmod | grep usb'
[03:41] <SeaPhor> tmapj, all
[03:41] <SomeGuy> f411guy, what is the keyboard shortcut to get to the main menu so I can launch another terminal?
[03:41] <SeaPhor> tmapj, in one msg
[03:41] <maskull> does wubi need to be defragged from within windows?
[03:41] <amrik> MindVirus: dpkg-buildpackage? its been a while since i've done this
[03:42] <f411guy> someguy: Hmm, im not entirely sure.  I know that CTRL+ALT+F1-6 will give you a console
[03:42] <nassty> hello everybody, I need some halp with a Radeon Xpress 200m
[03:42] <tmapj> SeaPhor, i dont know what more i can provide
[03:42] <nassty> trying to get s video output
[03:42] <f411guy> someguy: you could try 'sudo modprobe -r usbhid  && sudo modprobe usbhid' to unload and reload the usbhid module
[03:42] <MindVirus> amrik, nope.
[03:42] <MindVirus> That's not it.
[03:42] <SomeGuy> f411guy, yeah, but once I hit one of those I don't know how to get back out of it =P, I'm only a linux user about a year and a half
[03:42] <f411guy> someguy: ctrl+alt+F7 should bring you back to gnome
[03:42] <nicknock> has anyone been able to get skype to work with ubuntu?
[03:43] <zelrikriando> nicknock, sure why not?
[03:43] <nicknock> cam isn't working and running with 64 bitg
[03:43] <nicknock> bit
[03:43] <Geoffrey2> I have several folders on my desktop set up to be shared with other ubuntu computers....I can manually mount them from my laptop, I would simply like to know how to mount them automatically when I start up my laptop...
[03:43] <SeaPhor> tmapj, what "startup programs " were you talking about?
[03:44] <tmapj> i not talking about any startup programs
[03:44] <zelrikriando> nickellery, my cam isnt working either. It's a Skype issue
[03:44] <SomeGuy> ok
[03:44] <SomeGuy> I'll give it a try
[03:44] <hooT> Does anyone know of a fix for a crazy touchpad (REALLY sensitive and out of control) with dell laptops with the A08 revision bios?
 seaphor what should i do? disable the other startup programs?
[03:44] <nicknock> zelrikr are you a 64 bit?
[03:44] <zelrikriando> nicknock, no
[03:44] <tmapj> SeaPhor,  oh yes that would be deluge
[03:44] <zelrikriando> nickellery, sorry for the highlight
[03:45] <amrik> what do people think of the human vs. human-murrine skins?
[03:45] <zelrikriando> amrik, human skin is garbage
[03:45] <nicknock> i'm thinking it's hardware how old is your cam?
[03:45] <amrik> zelrikriando: do you have recommendations?
[03:45] <zelrikriando> amrik, human-murrine = advanced garbage?
[03:45] <amrik> zelrikriando: i kind of like ubuntustudio but dont like how firefox looks
[03:45] <mshanks> hmm. nicer alternative to Totem? It's not syncing vid + audio on my films
[03:45] <luderacer> i lub ubuntu
[03:46] <amrik> mshanks: use smplayer it is much faster at decoding imho
[03:46] <mshanks> cool cheers
[03:46] <zelrikriando> amrik, I have dodol and Wii-Black....both black themes though...so FF would be blah...
[03:46] <amrik> zelrikriando: gah the eternal problem of firefox vs dark themes
[03:47] <nassty> !Radeon
[03:47] <zelrikriando> amrik, I think Dodol is ok with FF
[03:47] <amrik> MindVirus: i think i found some instructions that can help
[03:47] <SeaPhor> tmapj, like i said, i dont know the answer, i'm just trying to help you state your question to get the help you need
[03:47] <zelrikriando> amrik, right now I have some vista-like theme that is kind of crap though :)
[03:48] <zelrikriando> color issues and stuff
[03:48] <amrik> zelrikriando: the vista replacements arent that great, and i get bored with them because i got too used to ubuntu
[03:48] <ian_`> hey, I got a weird problem, when I was leaving worekd today I unplugged my secondary monitor before shutting down my laptop, when I started it back up at home with my monitor here, twinview no longer worked. When I checked the nvidia-glx-new driver had been uninstalled, and I hanv't been able to fix it since, any ideas?
[03:49] <unstable> How can I find out what my sound device is, is what file in /dev, is my sound device?
[03:51] <zelrikriando> amrik, dodol is good, I just switched to it, some FF features are a bit unclear but still ok overall
[03:51] <xocite> unstable: cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:52] <timetravel0001> hi all
[03:52] <amrik> zelrikriando: it works great, except it still clashes pretty harshly with bright as white firefox
[03:53] <xocite> unstable: i believe it's /dev/sound/audio but i could be wrong
[03:53] <amrik> zelrikriando: every release themes get brighter and brighter, eventually we are all goign to go blind
[03:53] <unstable> xocite:  0 [IXP            ]: ATIIXP - ATI IXP
[03:53] <unstable>                       ATI IXP rev 0 with ALC250 at 0xf0000400, irq 17
[03:53] <unstable> xocite: ls: cannot access /dev/sound/audio: No such file or directory
[03:54] <amrik> unstable: why do you need your sound device?
[03:54] <zelrikriando> amrik, you mean the firefox pages?
[03:54] <unstable> amrik: I want to find out what is using it. I want to do "lsof /dev/mysoundevice"
[03:54] <amrik> unstable: /dev/dsp maybe
[03:54] <tv7497> guys little bit help i am getting this following error when i run mu update manager http://paste.ubuntu.com/17073/
[03:54] <tv7497> *my
[03:55] <amrik> unstable: can also look at the pulseaudio process
[03:55] <amrik> zelrikriando:  certain things in firefox such as the downloads box look out of place. the default skin for firefox really isnt meant for dark themes; is there a dark theme for FF?
[03:55] <xocite> yes
[03:55] <xocite> amrik: nasa night launch
[03:56] <xocite> amrik: Couple that with smoothansi 12 and you, my friend, have a beaut!
[03:57] <amrik> xocite: haha now if only webpages were dark themed themselves
[03:57] <unstable> amrik: The pulse audio process can tell me what is using my sound device?
[03:57] <amrik> xocite: dont tell me you have a greasemonkey script for that as well
[03:57] <xocite> amrik: i do!
[03:58] <xocite> amrik: http://lifehacker.com/software/lifehacker-code/invert-web-page-colors-with-the-darken-bookmarklet-259456.php
[03:58] <xocite> oops
[03:58] <zelrikriando> amrik, mine doesnt look half bad
[03:58] <xocite> amrik: http://tinyurl.com/2vaw89
[04:00] <scifiguy951> what is my keymap and where is it located
[04:01] <scifiguy951> ????
[04:01] <amrik> xocite: haha how do I work this greasemonkey script? this is absurd i knew someone else was just as annoyed with all these bright as day themes
[04:02] <n> is anyone here good with iptables?
[04:02] <scifiguy951> what is my keymap and where is it located?
[04:02] <xocite> just drag the script to your bookmark toolbar
[04:02] <xocite> then click on it when you need to darken a page
[04:02] <scifiguy951> what is my keymap and where is it located?
[04:02] <xocite> amrik: Oh, you're talking about the greasemonkey script... I was talking about the bookmark button
[04:03] <scifiguy951> what is my keymap and where is it located?
[04:03] <scifiguy951> ?
[04:03] <scifiguy951> ?
[04:03] <elmer> Can you get cowsay to say the output of a command?
[04:03] <FloodBot1> scifiguy951: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:03] <jbroome> !patience | scifiguy951
[04:03] <scifiguy951> what is my keymap and where is it located?
[04:03] <xocite> amrik: just add the script to greasemonkey then change the included pages
[04:03] <wuxia_> on ubuntu 8.04, how cna I prevent firefox fromm starting in offline mode when I don't have net connection? ( I still wnat to be able to access localhost)
[04:04] <scifiguy951> what is my keymap and where is it located?
[04:04] <Giskard_Reventlo> Hi. Do the kubuntu kernels have inotify enabled/Installed by default?
[04:04] <kiamo> how do i determin what driver is controlling my usb tablet?
[04:04] <jbroome> scifiguy951: die in a fire
[04:04] <scifiguy951> no!
[04:04] <SeaPhor> n what you tryin to do with iptables?
[04:04] <scifiguy951> i cant figure out which one it is there is so m any!
[04:05] <elmer> Can you get cowsay to say the output of a command?
[04:05] <jbroome> scifiguy951: http://www.v8mongrel.com/dan/E30.htm
[04:05] <jbroome> oops.  scifiguy951 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100590
[04:05] <Circe> have you tried ufw?
[04:05] <LogicalDash> X fails to terminate when I log out. It leaves me staring at just my desktop background, able to move my mouse and do nothing else... I'm pretty sure this is a problem with X because I can hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and shutdown proceeds normally. So um... what the hellp?
[04:05] <zelrikriando> amrik, do you play a little with the parameters of gnome colors?
[04:05] <WIDESPREADpanic> hi
[04:05] <LogicalDash> oh hai
[04:06] <WIDESPREADpanic> has anyone in hear setup x11 forwarding on their ubuntu?
[04:06] <WIDESPREADpanic> hey Logic
[04:06] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: over ssh?
[04:06] <WIDESPREADpanic> yes
[04:06] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: ssh -X remotehoste.com usually works for me
[04:06] <amrik> zelrikriando: sometimes
[04:06] <WIDESPREADpanic> jbroome
[04:07] <WIDESPREADpanic> how do i setup firefox wit it?
[04:07] <elmer> Can you get cowsay to say the output of a command?
[04:07] <WIDESPREADpanic> sso ubunt supports x11 ssh?
[04:07] <zelrikriando> amrik, I noticed the "bouton" colors of firefox are bound to the general theme...which makes it ugly
[04:08] <WIDESPREADpanic> how do i dim aand brighten screen in gnome?
[04:08] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: ssh -X remotehoste.com then run firefox
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> looking into the cowsay thing now
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> sounds interesting
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> elmer: try this in a terminal: ls | cowsay
[04:10] <DaemonLee> Aight, I've got a problem. The bluetooth module works in my laptop, but the wireless module, that's triggered by the same switch is not recongized, BUT it is listed in lspci.
[04:10] <WIDESPREADpanic> jbroome
[04:10] <WIDESPREADpanic> run firefox from terminal?
[04:10] <Daisuke_Ido> WIDESPREADpanic: yep, once you're in with -X, just run 'firefox'
[04:10] <elmer> Daisuke_Ido, thanks that worked
[04:11] <Daisuke_Ido> no problem
[04:11] <rubix> where is the device manager, i ca'nt find it since i updated
[04:11] <gennick> how about vnc sessions over ssh anyone done that?
[04:11] <scifiguy951> what would be a good keymap for a keylogger such as lkl??
[04:11] <gennick> i get x window but login manager doesnt show
[04:11] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: you have to launch FF on the remote machine somehow
[04:11] <jbroome> scifiguy951: us
[04:12] <ledmushroom>  I know this might be a dumb question but i was wondering as I am or should say was a windows mindless drone not any more but was wondering was there services that are not needed  at start kinda like shutting this off in msconfig  kinda like that and if so what is needed and was is not ?
[04:12] <Daisuke_Ido> elmer: or my personal favourite: apt-get help | grep Cow | cowsay
[04:12] <powdahound> Can someone suggest a good place to keep my content directories (www, svn, etc). Is /var the most common?
[04:12] <WIDESPREADpanic> guys, im remoting into a ubuntu server from my ubuntu desktop , the server doesnt support firefox, i need to be able to run firefox from laptop with ssh at work, so that the ip address from laptop is originating from my home, and all traffic is ssh, any ideas?
[04:12] <LogicalDash> ledmushroom, if you're looking for speed, you could try compiling a custom kernel
[04:12] <elmer> Daisuke_Ido, I like fortun | cowsay
[04:13] <LogicalDash> ledmushroom, make sure to fully back up your stuff first though
[04:13] <gennick> WIDESPREADpanicwhat u want to do is run squid at home and tunnel http port 80 over ssh
[04:13] <DaemonLee> Aight, I've got a problem. The bluetooth module works in my laptop, but the wireless module, that's triggered by the same switch is not recongized, BUT it is listed in lspci. How can I make this work?
[04:13] <elmer> err, fortune | cowsay
[04:13] <mycroftiv> ledmushroom: you could look at system > administration > services from grnome desktop and see if there's anything you don't need
[04:13] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: jesus, if you would have said that i could have answered it right off.  and squid isn't the way to do it
[04:13] <jpg_ny> gennick: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH
[04:13] <ledmushroom> thats statment alone sounds outta my league
[04:13] <WIDESPREADpanic> sorry
[04:13] <angelic> Hi, I really appreciate it if anyone can help me with this - I'm trying to customize my ubuntu, but how can I test my codes without messing up with the system?
[04:13] <gennick> thx jpg_ny
[04:13] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: what you want to do is use SSH as a socks proxy.  FF doesn't need to be installed on the box you're sshing to (ctd. .)
[04:13] <LogicalDash> ledmushroom, if you haven't already, try turning off visual effects
[04:13] <n> is anyone here good with iptables?
[04:14] <ledmushroom>  I have
[04:14] <WIDESPREADpanic> sweet, can u recommend a package?
[04:14] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: you can do it with ssh, plz hold
[04:14] <ledmushroom>  its not that im lagging or anything im just resource anal
[04:14] <LogicalDash> angelic: as long as you don't use sudo or the administrative applications, you're unlikely to mess anything or up
[04:14] <WIDESPREADpanic> cool
[04:14] <WIDESPREADpanic> peace
[04:14] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: ssh -D [high portnumber] remotehost.com
[04:15] <LogicalDash> angelic: if you like, you could create a second account to mess around with
[04:15] <WIDESPREADpanic> -d what does it do?
[04:15] <WIDESPREADpanic> i guess i could man it
[04:15] <scifiguy951> can someone help me?
[04:15] <Brady-Enterprize> wat is it
[04:15] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: then you change your firefox settings to use localhost 7070 as a socks 5 proxy
[04:15] <LogicalDash>  !ask | scifiguy951
[04:15] <curbside> So my ubuntuians.. ubuntees.. Um..
[04:15] <curbside> Hey, do we have one of those kinda names yet? The proper grammatical term evades me but do you know what Im talking about?
[04:15] <curbside> "Ameri-can" "Swed-ish" "Mexi-can"
[04:15] <curbside> Anyways... to strike up conversation, I was wonder: What is the drink of choice for all you night owls?
[04:15] <FloodBot1> curbside: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:15] <WIDESPREADpanic> your smart
[04:16] <curbside> .... Well - I guess shift+enter to break lines doesnt work well on IRC :)
[04:16] <WIDESPREADpanic> jbroome, what do u mean by high number, the port number the service is listening on?
[04:16] <quad3d-quad> woooo... this is bad. raid-5 with 2 hotspares and 2 active goes down. sooo much for 2 hotspares
[04:16] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: anything over 1024
[04:16] <WIDESPREADpanic> does it matter?
[04:16] <Daisuke_Ido> curbside: ubunteros :)
[04:16] <LogicalDash> When I log off, I'm left staring at my desktop background (no toolbars or anything) indefinitely until I press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace. What might be holding things up?
[04:17] <Daisuke_Ido> and for general chit-chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:17] <DaemonLee> curbside, Monster or Bawls.
[04:17] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: i use the switchproxy extension, and have one configured for 7070, so i just use that
[04:17] <curbside> Daisuke_Ido: Darn... I was liking "Ubuntite" :P
[04:17] <LogicalDash> Ubuntudes
[04:18] <curbside> LogicalDash: .... negative.
[04:18] <jpg_ny> LogicalDash: ps -efjH
[04:18] <angelic> LogicalDash: so if I messed up one acct, the other should still work?
[04:18] <LogicalDash> angelic: yes
[04:18] <DaemonLee> Aight, I've got a problem. The bluetooth module works in my laptop, but the wireless module, that's triggered by the same switch is not recongized, BUT it is listed in lspci. How can I make this work?
[04:19] <angelic> LogicalDash: nice. thanks
[04:19] <LogicalDash> angelic: you're welcome!
[04:19] <quad3d-quad> what's the reason when there is a kernel upgrade that it keeps more than 1 older revision? like recent one with .18 but still kept .17 and .16. /boot got 100% filled
[04:20] <LogicalDash> jpg_ny: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/17084/
[04:20] <xocite> quad3d-quad: how big is your /boot?
[04:20] <quad3d-quad> 80m
[04:20] <WIDESPREADpanic> jbroome, why locolhost?
[04:20] <xocite> 100% with two kernels...
[04:21] <quad3d-quad> xocite: this also have 2 revisions of xen kernels
[04:21] <Daisuke_Ido> tjat'
[04:21] <Daisuke_Ido> err...  that's odd
[04:21] <Daisuke_Ido> mine is 128mb, three kernels, and only 61mb used
[04:21] <DaemonLee> Aight, I've got a problem. The bluetooth module works in my laptop, but the wireless module, that's triggered by the same switch is not recongized, BUT it is listed in lspci. How can I make this work?
[04:21] <xocite> quad3d-quad: still, 100%?  kernel shouldn't be larger than 5mb
[04:21] <quad3d-quad> i mean.... it's fine. i fixed it. i'm just wondering why it keeps more than one revision
[04:22] <WIDESPREADpanic> jbroome where in firefox?
[04:22] <WIDESPREADpanic> i dont see the setting
[04:23] <schnauzer> quad: i think its in case a newer version causes problems
[04:23] <Rezagrats> Hi, i need some help encoding and burning *.avi files to make a Video DVD.
[04:23] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: preferences > advanced > network > "Config how ff conx to internet"
[04:23] <Brady-Enterprize> Rezagrets: what app are you using
[04:23] <WIDESPREADpanic> your awsome!!
[04:23] <WIDESPREADpanic> thanks
[04:23] <quad3d-quad> alright. i just need to keep this in mind when kernel upgrades. thanks
[04:23] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: np
[04:24] <navetz> does scp work over ftp?
[04:24] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: that'd why i use the sp extension, the setting is buried
[04:24] <jbroome> navetz: two diff things
[04:24] <quad3d-quad> scp is part of ssh using ssh protocol
[04:24] <cn28h> navetz, it works over ssh
[04:24] <xocite> quad3d-quad: well, normally you want to keep a fallback kernel for potential problems.
[04:24] <The_Hunter155> hay dose anyone no wher i can get a beter log in screen?
[04:24] <navetz> how can I do something like scp over ftp, is it possible?
[04:24] <WIDESPREADpanic> jbroome what type of proxy is this
[04:25] <WIDESPREADpanic> it want details
[04:25] <xocite> The_Hunter155: better log?
[04:25] <cn28h> navetz, run an ftpd?
[04:25] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: socks
[04:25] <ledmushroom> hey is that tracker thing needed if not how do i remove it
[04:25] <xenos> Why is ubuntu taking up 18 gigs of my hard drive? Is there a way to find out if there are just un-needed files to delete?
[04:25] <navetz> cn28h: ftpd is some sort of protocol?
[04:25] <WIDESPREADpanic> what port
[04:25] <The_Hunter155> log in screen you know wher you put your pass worh
[04:25] <quad3d-quad> xocite: yea, reason being.... during fix it wasn't able to remove .17 kernel module because the actual linux-image pkg was gone. and i had to reinstall .17 linux-image and blah blah to fix broken dpkg errors
[04:25] <cn28h> navetz, ftpd means an ftp daemon (server)
[04:25] <WIDESPREADpanic> is it the port of the ssh server i just remoted into?
[04:25] <xocite> quad3d-quad: lol, glad it's working
[04:25] <The_Hunter155> *word
[04:25] <quad3d-quad> xocite: :)
[04:26] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: what ever port you specify after -D in the ssh cmd
[04:26] <jpg_ny> LogicalDash: hum I don't spot anything weird, are you running something esoteric ? did you try different desktop ?
[04:26] <xenos> i'm thinking that synaptic manager is leaving all the downloaded files in my hard drive.
[04:26] <WIDESPREADpanic> 7070
[04:26] <alioraibi> hi
[04:26] <cn28h> navetz, check inetd, I think it supports ftp
[04:26] <mycroftiv> xenos: accessories > disk usage analyzer can give you a good graphical overview of the filesystem and let you drill down to see the details of space usage
[04:26] <Brady-Enterprize> hi to you to
[04:27] <The_Hunter155> yeff
[04:27] <LogicalDash> jpg_ny: the only thing unusual I guess would be the visor kernel module
[04:27] <powertool08> does anyone know why pop up menus such as right click and mouseovers show up on my main monitor when the event occurs on the 2nd display?
[04:27] <narothepharoh> how can i add more than one file to a dvd project?
[04:27] <WIDESPREADpanic> jbroome, i think its working, how can i see if it working if im on my same LAN?
[04:28] <jpg_ny> LogicalDash: Ok long shoot can you try to do one sync while stopping your machine ?
[04:28] <navetz> cn28h: thanks
[04:28] <cn28h> np
[04:28] <LogicalDash> jpg_ny: what precisely are you suggesting?
[04:29] <jpg_ny> do a sync command and loggoof
[04:29] <xenos> mycroftiv: figured it out! lol. thanks.
[04:29] <narothepharoh> how can i add more than one file to a dvd project?
[04:29] <LogicalDash> jpg_ny: you mean while the sync window is still open
[04:29] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: dunno, i haven't used it on the same lan
[04:29] <WIDESPREADpanic> jbroome you are super smart, how long have u been using linux.uni?
[04:30] <LogicalDash> narothepharoh: you should probably specify what software you're using to burn stuff
[04:30] <jpg_ny> LogicalDash no in a terminal
[04:30] <WIDESPREADpanic> jbroome, i just killed the ssh connection, and firefox wont work, so it works, thanks a mill
[04:30] <worlock> Brady-Enterprize: how many languiges do you know
[04:31] <LogicalDash> jpg_ny, ok I'll try
[04:31] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: rock!  try it with a remote server then go to whatismyip.com.  ip in browser should be diff. than your IP
[04:31] <narothepharoh> LogicalDash: I usually use Brasero but I dont think I can with that i guess im trying to find software that will
[04:31] <jbroome> feeding baby, typing 1 handed
[04:31] <curtHendzell> anyone having a problem with gnome-panels locking when accessing a mounted directory?
[04:31] <WIDESPREADpanic> jbroome, this means my internet surfing is encrypted, so if there are sniffing my packets at work, they wont be able to that im watching you tube
[04:31] <curtHendzell> in hardy
[04:32] <boaz> My KDE4 8.04 AMD64 system locked up, and I had to reboot. Now when I start the system I get an error message: "Malformed URL system:/"  Is there any way to fix this?
[04:32] <GogDaique> why i can make a distro in ubuntu?
[04:32] <jbroome> WIDESPREADpanic: correct, just see ssh traffi to remote machine
[04:32] <LogicalDash> jpg_ny, I use gnome-pilot so there are no command line utilities.
[04:32] <akahige> I was uninstalling some packages in Synaptic and one of them left an orphan in the database that generates an error any time I do "sudo apt-get upgrade".  is there any way to get rid of this? (I'm on Hardy)
[04:33] <jbroome> apt-get autoremove akahige
[04:34] <akahige> jbroome: it's not working. still generating the same error
[04:34] <BobPenguin> Hello there. VLC does not show subtitles, nor does mplayer. Any hints?
[04:35] <LogicalDash> BobPenguin, uh, did you turn on the subtitles through the appropriate menu?
[04:35] <powertool08> does anyone know why pop up menus such as right click and mouseovers show up on my main monitor when the event occurs on the 2nd display?
[04:35] <redred> can someone help me mount my second hard drive to copy my music over (mfts)
[04:35] <redred> nfts*
[04:35] <n> is anyone here good with iptables?
[04:36] <BobPenguin> logicaldash: the menu does not allow subtitles, as if there was no subtitle file in the folder of the movie. Yet, there are like 5 different subtitle files  (different formats)
[04:36] <jpg_ny> LogicalDash: you might want run top to see if something is over using some ressources
[04:36] <Kirakia> how do I uninstall an extra copy of Ubuntu from my machine?
[04:36] <Warlock> hay anyone no anny games on the termanol like you can play on the termanol
[04:37] <kiamo> how do i get sudo when im in x?
[04:37] <kiamo> im trying to share a folder but it wont let me cos i dont have the rights
[04:37] <redred> can someone help me mount my second hard drive [e;ase it is an nfts
 ALT F2 gksudo nautilus
[04:38] <ledmushroom> ok is there a way to clean up folders made by app I have added and have since removed the folders were left behind
[04:38] <GogDaique> how do i make my ubuntu a distro?
[04:38] <GogDaique> how do i make my ubuntu a other distro?
 ya isnt there a ntfs program, search on symnaptic
[04:39] <curtHendzell> akahige: do you know which package?  Does sudo apt-get remove [PACKAGE] work?
[04:39] <ledmushroom> remastersys is what i used
[04:39] <powertool08> !remaster |GogDaique
 ya i think you have to install orphan package remover, look for it in synaptics
[04:39] <rledge21> my desktop is shifted over a couple of inches on the monitor, with the desktop cutting off on the left, and a black bar on the right side.  anyone have a suggestion?
[04:39] <GogDaique> ledmushroom, are you asking me?
[04:40] <GogDaique> ubottu, thanx
[04:40] <akahige> curtHendzell: I know the package --  linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-generic -- but it's already gone. there's just some kind of entry in the package db that's generating the error (I think)
 what do you mean other distro?
[04:40] <rledge21> I can adjust the monitor and get it down to about an inch, but it won't go any farther
 like kde, gnome, kde4 or FEDORA
[04:41] <GogDaique> m_newton, i have a ubuntu distro in my computer... so i personalized, remove apps, install other apps... and i want to create a new distro... in a live CD
[04:41] <GogDaique> to install in other computers
[04:41] <GogDaique> understand me?
[04:41] <curtHendzell> akahige: is it listed in 'not installed, residual config' in synaptic? under 'status'?
[04:42] <akahige> curtHendzell: let me see if I can find that...
[04:42] <Kira> darn
[04:42] <Warlock> kira: what?
[04:43] <powertool08> i just installed proprietary ati drivers and when i set it to one big desktop it tells me to restart, after a restart its back to clone mode, why won't it save?
[04:43] <n> is anyone here good with iptables?
[04:43] <Kira> I mistakenly forgot to tick the install LAMP option when installing Ubuntu Hardy server from CD.
[04:43] <WIDESPREADpanic> jbroome u there
[04:43] <amrik> how can i browse with firefox inverted colors?
 then you should follow this guide, i have tried it once, but i dont knwo if it worked, http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-linux-mint-livecd-with-remastersys
[04:43] <sfmichaels> Anyone know how to get laptop wireless card LinkSys WPC600N to work correctly with Ubunto 8.04?  I have the ndiswrapper and am using the windows xp driver.  It works WITHOUT security.  WEP, WPA, WPA2 does not work.  I tried following the various FAQ's in the forums without success.  I tried manual config, auto config, and wpa_supplicant all without success.
[04:43] <Kira> Warlock: is it any different than manually installing apache2, mysql, and php5 from aptitude?
[04:44] <tmapj> OK here's my problem. I have a restricted driver that is a graphics accelerator called "GeForce Go 7300." It works when I load generic Ubuntu but not when I load the ubuntu that is optimized for my Processor. When I try to load it in Ubuntu-rt (the ubuntu optimized for my processor) it shows the loading screen but then loads to a blank screen with no sound whatsoever. Even if I press all the keys on the key board or press se
[04:44] <tmapj> veral at once with my hands on the keyboard it still makes no sound and nothing comes up on the screen.
[04:44] <tmapj> Now you may be asking, "Why not just use generic ubuntu?". Well the problem with generic ubuntu is that i have frequent crashes, freezes and errors.
[04:44] <tmapj> If anyone knows anything about this problem please let me know. Your input will be much appreciated.
[04:44] <amrik> i know that ubuntu can invert colors, but i would like it to be for firefox only
[04:44] <FloodBot1> tmapj: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:44] <tmapj> Thanks.
[04:44] <WIDESPREADpanic> windows key + M
[04:44] <m_newton> tmapj Flood!
[04:44] <WIDESPREADpanic> jbroome?
[04:44] <amrik> WIDESPREADpanic: can it do this by default? what about just only the web page pane and not the controls or address bar
[04:44] <ledmushroom> GogDaique here is what i used remastersys http://www.remastersys.klikit-linux.com/repository/remastersys/remastersys_2.0-1_all.deb
[04:44] <Warlock> kira: i dont think so
[04:45] <ledmushroom> easy to use too
[04:45] <GogDaen> ledmushroom and m_newton, thanks!
[04:45] <WIDESPREADpanic> u need compiz-fusion
[04:45] <WIDESPREADpanic> dl compiz-fusion
  compiz fusion
[04:45] <akahige> curtHendzell: no.  it's under Installed (auto removable)
[04:46] <curtHendzell> can you remove it from there?
[04:46] <flare> Can anyone please (pretty please) help me? I was trying to install something, left it alone for a couple of hours and when I came back it hadn't finished or even moved from where I left it last.  Except that I can't. So when I try to check the Synaptic Package Manager it says that there's an error, and that I must manually run something. But I d
[04:46] <flare> on't know where or how. Much help would be very appreciated.
 windoes key m for whole invertion windoes key n for one window invertion
[04:46] <akahige> curtHendzell: my only allowable remove option is "mark for complete removal"
[04:47] <curtHendzell> that'll do it
[04:47] <GogDaen> something else... my video drive are " VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter ". how i can use VIA 3D drivers in linux? Linux dont link VIA :(
[04:47] <akahige> curtHendzell: that won't have unintended side effects
[04:47] <akahige> ?
 to get compiz, sudo apt-get build-dep compiz; sudo apt-get install ccsm
[04:48] <m_newton> Starnestommy, You there man?
[04:48] <m_newton> Starnestommy, Finals?
[04:48] <Warlock> kira: wher you from?
[04:49] <curtHendzell> akahige: shouldn't as long as you're not using that kernel
[04:49] <Starnestommy> m_newton: I was asleep
[04:49] <Warlock> kira: you have msn?
[04:50] <ledmushroom>  ok was wondering if I am using gnome  would it hurt to use kleansweep to clean up  even tho its a kde app
[04:50] <akahige> curtHendzell: okay.  giving it a shot...
[04:50] <sacamano> if sudo shutdown -h time  makes your comp turn off, is there a command to make it reboot?
[04:50] <sacamano> like sudo reboot 1:30?
[04:50] <Starnestommy> sacamano: -r instead of -h
[04:50] <jbroome> sacamano: shutdown -r
[04:51] <akahige> curtHendzell:  didn't work.  giving me the same error -- "E: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-16-generic: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1"
[04:51] <GogDaen> somebody, help me: why i dont can use  VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter 3D graphix in my linux ... dont have support?
[04:51] <sacamano> ty
[04:51] <^root^> what does this command do: cp -rvf ~/NetBeansProjects/ /media/vmdisk/Backup/;  if NetBeansProjects also exist in the target dir?
 sorry, many qustions today
[04:52] <amrik> ^root^: copy over it
[04:52] <^root^> amrik: overwrite? as well as copying the new files which aren't there?
[04:52] <amrik> ^root^: yes thats right
[04:53] <^root^> amrik: that's exactly what I thought, but it doesn't.....
[04:53] <mshanks> hmm.
[04:53] <curtHendzell> akahige:  and running 'sudo apt-get autoremove' didn't do it either?
[04:53] <mshanks> a minute ago mplayer was working fine...
[04:53] <mshanks> now when I open a video, nothing happens.
[04:53] <akahige> curtHendzell: that's correct
[04:53] <mshanks> it got an error log or something?
 talk to Starnestommy
[04:53] <elmer> what's the command to run "Appearance"?
[04:53] <j1solutions> mshanks  close firefox and reopen it
[04:54] <flare> Can anyone please (pretty please) help me? I was trying to install something, left it alone for a couple of hours and when I came back it hadn't finished or even moved from where I left it last.  Except that I can't. So when I try to check the Synaptic Package Manager it says that there's an error, and that I must manually run something. But I d
[04:54] <flare>  on't know where or how. Much help would be very appreciated.
[04:55] <mshanks> aah found it. I ticked the option for having it change the volume on startup... (to avoid loud starts)... but it doesn't recognise the command to do it lol
[04:55] <mshanks> nevermind
[04:55] <endeavormac> as you can use time <command> to monitor how long it takes a command to complete, is there anything comparable to see how many resources a command uses?
[04:55] <curtHendzell> akahige: does synaptic give you the option to reinstall the package?
[04:56] <^root^> amrik: there is a problem with atleast my ubuntu 8.04 installation, in this installation the files that are to be overwritten are deleted, and only new files are copied... directories that are to be overwritten are set to empty
[04:56] <akahige> curtHendzell: yes.  I can mark for reinstallation.
[04:56] <zhenggang> hello everyone
[04:56] <curtHendzell> akahige: try reinstallation and then complete removal
[04:57] <akahige> curtHendzell: will do
[04:57] <amrik> ^root^: drop the / from the end of the first arg
[04:58] <karllenz> is there a linux commande like the windows comande convert/
[04:58] <mohamed_> anyone installd squeezecenter ?
[04:59] <elmer> what's the command to run System -> Administration -> Appearance?
[04:59] <Starnestommy> elmer: gnome-appearance-properties
[04:59] <astro76> karllenz: what does convert do?
[04:59] <elmer> Starnestommy, thanks
[04:59] <curtHendzell> gnome-appearance-properties
[04:59] <mshanks> converts things? :p
[04:59] <SuperID> I'm running ubuntu in a vm and I need to tinker with the sound device.  The VM plays sound.   I have to monkey with the sound device but there is no /dev/dsp.  What is another possible sound device?
[05:00] <karllenz> astro76: it changes the filing system on a hdd without removing the data on it
[05:00] <astro76> karllenz: ah fat32 to ntfs, I doubt it
[05:00] <ringer> just wondering what the consensus is for using a dock (kiba, cairo, awn) or just using the standard panel that comes default
[05:01] <karllenz> astro76: no i want to change ntfs to hfs+
[05:01] <akahige> curtHendzell: package installed okay, but it's a kernel image so I'm going to have to reboot to complete the install before I can uninstall it
[05:01] <karllenz> astro76: i cant get my mac to see my ntfs drive
 whats up
[05:01] <amrik> SuperID: you can run the program thats looking for /dev/dsp with padsp, its a wrapper script
[05:01] <theman1> ringer: I use awn, and it runs great
[05:02] <karllenz> awn is great
 not really :( i like my bottom toolbar and well, awn not work well with bottom tollbar making it nuesence
[05:02] <SuperID> amrik:  thx
[05:02] <iceolate> hi can i asked a simple question.. well it's probably simple for some of you :)
 yup
[05:03] <ringer> theman1, i've also used awn, as well as the other two, but i am just curious, while talking in pidgin, when i receive an im, it doesnt flash to tell me there is a new message, with the dock i could get the icon to bounce or whatever, but i was wondering if there was a way to get it to alert me.
[05:03] <flare> opps
[05:03] <karllenz> m_newton: im a osx convert so i like awn lol
 next time, dont ask to ask, Just ask
[05:03] <iceolate> kay
[05:03] <amrik> !ask | iceolate
[05:03] <theman1> i deleted the bottom tollbar and just have awn running
[05:03] <iceolate> okay
 solved?
[05:03] <Wolf23> Help please! can anyone tell me if eboot.pbp is for play station 1 or not?
 why? :( i love bottom toolbar
[05:04] <flare> m_newton: wow i'm being overly special today. anyway, um, i was trying to install limewire *gets lynched*, but it wouldn't finish. and i closed it and now i can't install it again. and nothing i do works.
[05:04] <iceolate> anyway... i set up a folder for my friend in my home folder and i want him to be able to access it through my router
[05:04] <CorbinFox> has anyone had any experience with the Wacom Cintiq tablet on ubuntu?  Does it have full functionality like it would on windows or mac?
[05:04] <theman1> why keep it when you have awn running it does just about the same thing
[05:04] <xerdes> Non ubuntu related question but idk who else to ask: I'm looking for a windows program to broadcast a webcam feed with sound to multiple people without someone at the host to click accept.
[05:05] <DaemonLee> Question, I heard awhile ago, that you had to do "special" things to lengthen the life cycle due to useless read/write cycles on laptops running Ubuntu. True or false?
 first off, lime wire = will get you linched , use azureus with safe peer as plugin
[05:05] <astro76> xerdes: #windows
 Second what was the message you got?
[05:05]  * xerdes feels dumb
[05:05] <xerdes> lol
 Just watch movies online man!
[05:05] <astro76> iceolate: if it were me I'd probably create a user for him on my machine, install openssh-server, then he can access /home/friendsusername using ssh/scp/sftp
 never heard of it. okay, um, i'll go research that in a second. also, don't call me man.
[05:06] <ringer> theman1 i realize that, but it takes up more memory, therefore lowering battery life on my laptop..i was just wondering what most people do.
[05:06] <iceolate> astro76: k i created a user for him already. let me install that.
How bout ftp?
[05:06] <iceolate> m_newton: yeah i could use ftp, but i wanted to figure out how to do it directly
[05:06] <DaemonLee> Question, I heard awhile ago, that you had to do "special" things to lengthen the life cycle due to useless read/write cycles on laptops running Ubuntu. True or false?
[05:06] <DaemonLee> Anyone?
[05:06] <m_newton> iceolate> ssh?
[05:06] <amrik> iceolate: the direct way is to install openssh-server
[05:07] <amrik> iceolate: create a user for him and you are pretty much set
[05:07] <m_newton> iceolate> ssh, lets you connect to your desktop remotel
[05:07] <iceolate> INSTALLING NOW
 and for some reason i tried doing that but it won't load. anyway, trying to install it again tells me that there's another package installer running and that i should close that... but there isn't anything running.
[05:07] <iceolate> sorry about the caps
[05:07] <m_newton> iceolate> but you will have access to all files
[05:07] <DaemonLee> flare, try to restart.
[05:07] <DaemonLee> That might fix it
 did that. didn't work
[05:08] <DaemonLee> You already tried to fully restart?
 what was your error message exactly, cant help if you dont tell...
 so um, i try opening the synaptic and this pops out: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[05:08] <flare> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[05:08] <DaemonLee> Flare, did you run that command?
[05:08] <astro76> flare: do it, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:08] <theman1> ringer> thats true i just like the look and the little addons that they have for it
[05:09] <m_newton> good job <astro76>!! :)
[05:09] <flare> i did that, but it said that i had to input my password. and that's where i just got completely stuck
[05:09] <DaemonLee> Input your login password.
 that is the password u use to log in
 yes, i figured that. but i tried typing it, and nothing.
[05:10] <DaemonLee> Hit enter.
[05:10] <DaemonLee> It won't show any text.
[05:10] <flare> did
[05:10] <iceolate> okay. i have installed openssh-server
[05:10] <CarlFK> /dev/hda1 has /boot on it, it's the first and only drive hooked up.  grub got installed to a usb stick, which I later formated, so now I have no grub
[05:10] <DaemonLee> Flare, and did you get a error message?
[05:10] <vdozen> hello
[05:10] <CarlFK> i booted from a live cd - how can I install grub to dev/hda?
[05:11] <flare> yeah, hold on, i'll tell you what it was in a sec
[05:11] <astro76> iceolate: you'll need to forward port 22 on the router to your machine
[05:11] <iceolate> ok
[05:11] <flare> "command not found"
, do you need help configureing?
[05:11] <vdozen> how can i have access to my other xubuntu pc in the network?
[05:12] <DaemonLee> Oh!
[05:12] <DaemonLee> Hehe...
[05:12] <iceolate> yes.. i have two different channels telling me two different things
[05:12] <astro76> vdozen: install openssh-server on it
[05:12] <DaemonLee> Try ' sudo dpkg --configure -a '
[05:12] <htmljunkie> mac
[05:12] <htmljunkie> u around?
[05:12]  * flare is confused
[05:13] <DaemonLee> Type that into terminal, and see if you still get the same error.
... ok, so you want to use ssh, problem is if you tell your friend you password, they have compleat access!, that is why FTP is best in a LAN
[05:13]  * flare is cheering
[05:13] <astro76> m_newton: he created a separate user for his friend
[05:14] <astro76> !pm | vdozen
[05:14] <DaemonLee> Flare, you good?
... ok, ssh is good for controlig desktop from scholl, installing update, talking on aim using naim, talking on irc usiong irssi and much more, it is just commandline, so it is hard to copy files without prior knowledge
[05:14] <iceolate> i'm not worried about him accessing my files... he's cool
[05:14] <CorbinFox> has anyone had any experience with the Wacom Cintiq tablet on ubuntu?  Does it have full functionality like it would on windows or mac?
 yesh! thank you so much!
[05:14] <DaemonLee> No problem.
[05:15] <rledge21> I can adjust the monitor and get it down to about an inch, but it won't go any farther
[05:15] <iceolate> k. i know how to forward that port. hold on
[05:15] <rledge21> my desktop is shifted over a couple of inches on the monitor, with the desktop cutting off on the left, and a black bar on the right side.  anyone have a suggestion?
[05:15] <astro76> m_newton, iceolate actually you can open up GUI apps pretty easily including nautilus (file manager), if you connect using ssh -Y or ssh -X
[05:15] <DaemonLee> Flare, if you get a request or demand for you to run something like that, and it comes tied into anyway with Aptitude or Synaptic, you most likely have to sudo (su).
[05:16] <m_newton> <astro76 wont that just open it on the other computer?
 still don't know what the sudo is for, but i guess that's why it never worked XD
[05:16] <astro76> m_newton: nope, the -X or -Y options enable X11 forwarding
[05:16] <iceolate> i had a real problem setting up ftp... before. ideally, i wanted him to be able to open up nautilus, browse to grab his files
[05:16] <astro76> m_newton: and it's dirt simple to use :D
[05:16] <DaemonLee> Ah.
[05:16] <DaemonLee> !sudo
[05:16] <DaemonLee> There ya go.
[05:17] <m_newton> <astro76 how did you do it, i use putty, i dont think there is an option like that, on a mac's terminal yes, on putty...?
[05:17] <flare> hehehe, thanks. i'm really bad when it comes to programing
[05:17] <astro76> m_newton: there needs to be an X server on the client system
 like?
[05:17] <astro76> m_newton: there are commercial X servers for windows, and also cygwin, but I have never tried that
[05:17] <astro76> m_newton: like X.org if you are running linux ;)
[05:18] <flare> anyways, night night people. i shall be back (hopefully not in the near future)
 ya, but on windows ls cp and mv are your main men
 at least for ssh -x (no X) lol
[05:19] <DaemonLee> Question, I heard awhile ago, that you had to do "special" things to lengthen the life cycle due to useless read/write cycles on laptops running Ubuntu. True or false?
[05:19] <abo> Hi, I want to download/install the JDK for mobile devices, the J2ME jdk, is there an Ubuntu way of doing it, or shall I just download it from sun.com and install it as they advise?
 thats why, i got links2 a web broweser in  terminal
[05:19] <iceolate> m_newton: ok i think i forwarded the port correctly
[05:19] <MindVirus> How big is a clean installation of Ubuntu?
[05:19] <astro76> m_newton: you're preaching to the choir ;)
[05:19] <amstella> ago : did you check the repo?
 port 22 right?
[05:19] <iceolate> yep
[05:20] <_Lukstr> Question: Installing ubuntu server, 8.04, it's seems to have crashed at 50% during "Resizing partition..."... Anything I can do?
 if so go to terminal and type, ssh your ip address (192.168.1.*) so for me it would be
 'ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and i get access, username@ is not necessory with just one user
[05:21] <DaemonLee> MindVirus, about 3-5gb.
[05:21] <iceolate> okay
[05:21] <iceolate> let me have him try it
[05:22] <vdozen> how do i go on about using openssh-server im a noob here and i might be going over my head installing openssh-server
[05:22] <iceolate> that's what i'm doing now
[05:22] <DaemonLee> !pm | indra
 alternatively, you can host over the net using no-ip2
[05:22] <amstella> vdozen : its easy to use, just check out the docs and read some info
 with no-ip2 you can connect from everywhere
[05:23] <astro76> iceolate: he needs to use your external ISP given IP address, not the internal one.. also you can only drop the username if his username on the client machine is hte same as his username on your machine
[05:23] <tv7497> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17073/ guys little bit help my apt is damaged
[05:23] <CorbinFox> has anyone had any experience with the Wacom Cintiq tablet on ubuntu?  Does it have full functionality like it would on windows or mac?  I will probably be getting one soon and id prefer to  not see windows xp any more than i have to
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !wacom
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !tablet
[05:23] <Jack_Sparrow> darn
 first 'sudo apt-get build-dep open-ssh; sudo apt-get install open-ssh ssh'
[05:23] <amstella> !ubuntu
[05:24] <Jack_Sparrow> We have a factoid on wacom tablets
[05:24] <astro76> vdozen: ignore that, m_newton ???
[05:24] <astro76> vdozen: just sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:24] <astro76> vdozen: what kind of access are you trying to achieve?
[05:24] <m_newton> <vdozen then port forward port 22
[05:25] <iceolate> m_newton: k he's in
[05:25] <astro76> vdozen: no need to forward ports you are on an internal network
[05:25] <vdozen> well access files that i have downloaded on one machine so that i may burn it on this machine
[05:25] <iceolate> so if he wants to copy something to HIS local directory
 you need the dependencies for no-ip2
 or dyndns
[05:25] <iceolate> would it just be "cp <file> <local dir>
[05:25] <astro76> vdozen: you can go to places > conect to server, select ssh, and you can connect using the file manager
[05:25] <jRd> hi guys
[05:25] <DaemonLee> Can anyone recommend a FTP program to act as a server with Ubuntu?
[05:25] <tv7497> little bit help
[05:26] <astro76> m_newton: .. that was iceolate, plus he probably has a no-ip client on his router
[05:26] <astro76> !ftpd | DaemonLee
[05:26] <astro76> iceolate: what os is he using?
[05:27] <iceolate> astro76: ubuntu like me. he's connected throught the way m_newton told me
[05:27] <tv7497> astro76: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17073/ sir  little bit help my apt is damaged
[05:27] <astro76> iceolate: he can do places > connect to server, select ssh as I mentioned to vdozen
[05:27] <DaemonLee> astro76, Which one is easy to maintain?
[05:27] <iceolate> astro76: k one sedc
[05:27] <astro76> iceolate: or scp from the command line, not within the ssh session but in his local shell
[05:28] <astro76> iceolate: scp is just like copy
[05:28] <astro76> *cp
[05:28] <iceolate> astro76: yeah he's in teh command line
[05:28] <jRd> im having a real bad time with my nvidia drivers and my newly compiled kernel... am I a the right place to seek some help^
[05:28] <iceolate> hold on. i'll mess with it
[05:28] <astro76> DaemonLee: hmm no idea, I usually just use ssh ;) who needs to access this server and for what purpose?
[05:29] <PCcertified> Quick question, what command can or app can I use to see the partition table and sizes of my partitions
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> PCcertified sudo fdisk -l
[05:29] <d[X_X]b> anyone: does ubuntu support tablet pc's?
[05:29] <PCcertified> thanks Jack_Sparrow
 i actually like the connect to server method <astro76> has! just found out bout it and is cool! thanks man
[05:29] <Jack_Sparrow> np  last letter is an L
[05:29] <whaley_notatwork> PCcertified: df -h will show space for all of your partitions that are currently mounted
[05:30] <astro76> m_newton: no prob ;)
[05:30] <PCcertified> thansk whaley_notatwork
[05:30] <whaley_notatwork> PCcertified: welcome :)
[05:30] <m_newton> bye to all, finals tommarow and must sleep by 12
[05:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Goodnight, thanks for all the help
[05:30] <vdozen> well ok well im actually using xubuntu would it still be the same?
[05:31] <tv7497> Jack_Sparrow:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/17073/ sir  little bit help my apt is damaged
[05:31] <jRd> anyone can help with nvidia kernel module problem^
[05:31] <astro76> vdozen: sure any linux system really
[05:31] <Amstell> hey
[05:31] <jRd> hi
[05:31] <SuN13> rjd:i used the up to date kernel for restricted drivers
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> While I look at your paste
[05:31] <vdozen> so i should install the client and server application right
[05:32] <astro76> iceolate: once you have that working well there's a change you might want to consider to improve security slightly
[05:32] <astro76> vdozen: well client is installed by default, but if you apt-get install ssh you will get them both
[05:32] <jRd> Sun13, I have compile the 2.6.26 rc3 kernel, and tried the latest drivers from nvidia
[05:32] <seba> dcf
[05:32] <Jack_Sparrow> tv7497 Please use pastebin and paste the contents of gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:33] <vdozen> ok will try that now
[05:33] <vdozen> is that used mainly on terminal or is there a gui involved
[05:33] <_Lukstr> Can I assume that a crash during installation partitioning means I probably lost all my data?
[05:34] <astro76> vdozen: you can use the file manager or a program like gftp to do sftp, which is a part of ssh
[05:34] <Amstell> not always but probably
[05:34] <Jack_Sparrow> _Lukstr Boot a live cd .. mount the partition in question and check it out
[05:34] <rledge21> my desktop is shifted over a couple of inches on the monitor, with the desktop cutting off on the left, and a black bar on the right side.  everything worked fine before I tried running a game in Wine...anyone have a suggestion?
[05:34] <TaRDy> for some reason when I try to play a dual layer DVD with vlc player it just closes
[05:34] <troxor> rledge21: `xrandr -q`, then use xrandr to change the resolution
[05:34] <_Lukstr> thanks Jack_Sparrow, Amstell, I hope this doesn't ruin my GSoC
[05:34] <Amstell> rledge21 : that happens to my resolution as well, i usually restart xserver and its good
[05:35] <Jack_Sparrow> tv7497 You there?
[05:35] <vdozen> so i have to install ssh on the other machine as well
[05:35] <astro76> vdozen: the remote machine needs the server, so yeah
[05:36] <tv7497> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17096/
[05:36] <jRd> i just rcompiled my kernel with the 2.6.26rc3 sources, and cant get the nvidia drivers to work... the screen gest blanked right after gdm
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[05:36] <PCcertified> Anyone tried PlayonLinux
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> tv7497 Were you doing some hasty editing to hide some repos?
[05:37] <vdozen> ssh is mainly through terminal?
[05:37] <vdozen> how do i start it
[05:37] <boyet> do we have a channel for networking?
[05:37] <Amstell> vdozen : yes, its the quickest way to get anythign done
[05:37] <jRd> vdozen:  ssh theadress
[05:37] <tv7497> Jack_Sparrow: yes i was adding a new line to get e17 rather than e16 and bang !!!!! gone
[05:38] <TaRDy> for some reason when I try to play a dual layer DVD in hardy with VLC it just closes
[05:38] <TaRDy> any suggestions?
[05:38] <jRd> vdozen: ssh your.adress port#
[05:38] <_Lukstr> Okay, so my computer won't turn on at all now, I can't get anything on the monitor
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> tv7497 Ok.. so look int that /etc/apt directory for a backup of your original sources.list
[05:39] <tv7497> Jack_Sparrow: k sir
[05:39] <SheezayE> Jack_Sparrow: how to login sa root in ubuntu 8.04?
[05:39] <rledge21> troxor, I have the resolution back to what it is supposed to be, it is just displaying everyting moved over to the side; I can play with the monitor settings and push it back over some of the way, but it is still like an inch to the left
[05:39] <jRd> _Lukstr: you get absolutely nothing^
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> SheezayE We dont support root... use sudo for cli or gksudo for gui apps
[05:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[05:40] <m_newton> Please log in before attempting to verify your registration. what do i do???
[05:40] <bradd4> hello
[05:40] <vdozen> port# as in the port that i have forwarded?
[05:40] <SheezayE> Jack_Sparrow: ok thanks
[05:40] <bradd4> everyone
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> SheezayE np  any questions just ask..   sudo fdisk -l   or gksudo gedit  are examples
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> m_newton Are you talking about reg' on irc?
[05:41] <m_newton> how do i login???
[05:42] <millers> having issues changing where apt-get gets its stuff from. i have found the site i want it to use (http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu/) but what do i need to change in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> !e17
[05:42] <rledge21> m_newton, /msg nickserv identify [password]
[05:42] <tv7497> Jack_Sparrow: but how did the back up came i dont remember doing one and its in etc/apt
[05:42] <swankier> how do I install transmissioncli?
[05:42] <jRd> vdozen: u have a pm
[05:42] <swankier> or better yet, how do I search for which package contains it?
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> tv7497 Automatic when you saved the new one
[05:42] <Jack_Sparrow> slick eh
[05:42] <bradd4> help!
[05:42] <jRd> i just rcompiled my kernel with the 2.6.26rc3 sources, and cant get the nvidia drivers to work... the screen gest blanked right after gdm
[05:43] <tv7497> Jack_Sparrow: now i need to copy that in my source list
[05:43] <m_newton> bradd4, whats uo?
[05:43] <bradd4> i'm thinking about upgrade gutsy to hardy.. will it effect my home folder??
[05:43] <m_newton> bradd4, whats up
[05:44] <tv7497> bradd4: no
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> tv7497 Yes   gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:44] <m_newton> bradd4, nope
[05:44] <bradd4> how about the apps?
[05:44] <m_newton> bradd4, nope
[05:44] <Jack_Sparrow> tv7497 run this in a term when you are done     cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/Desktop/sources.list.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)
[05:44] <m_newton> bradd4, it might update a few, but thats not bad
[05:45] <bradd4> update a few?
 will i always have to use that command to log in??
[05:46] <iceolate> m_newton: he's connected using fish:// through konqueror. what command do i have to run to give his user name access to the files?
[05:46] <bradd4> m_newton : hmmm.. how about my configuration files like xorg.conf?
[05:46] <iceolate> my user name is the owner for his director
[05:46] <iceolate> directory...
[05:46] <m_newton> bradd4, dont know
[05:46] <rledge21> m_newton, you in xchat? click edit on the network list, and you can set your password there to auto-send it
 what is fish??
[05:47] <m_newton> thanks <rledge21>
[05:47] <iceolate> my friend showed me how to use fish to connect to scp/ssh
[05:47] <bradd4> thanks a lot m_newton
[05:47] <bradd4> thanks a lot m_newton
[05:47] <iceolate> for example fish://username@host
[05:48] <rledge21> my desktop is shifted over a couple of inches on the monitor, with the desktop cutting off on the left, and a black bar on the right side.  everything worked fine before I tried running a game in Wine...anyone have a suggestion?
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> rledge21 See if it goes back if you log out and in
[05:48] <millers> can someone give me a hand with apt? so i need to do anything after i change sources.list to make apt-get use the new source?
[05:49] <Bikerbob> anyone help me to get my root working when i get a passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info
[05:49] <Bikerbob> passwd: password unchanged
[05:49] <rledge21> Jack_Sparrow, first thing I tried :)
[05:49] <EvilNoob> trying to run WoW on Kubuntu Gutsy. already got the wine from the repos
[05:49] <EvilNoob> i have WoW + BS installed on Vista partition
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> EvilNoob /join #winehq
[05:49] <rledge21> Jack_Sparrow, been trying to figure this one out all day
[05:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb
 how do i get that option
[05:49] <deeperror> wow work in wine
[05:49] <tv7497> Jack_Sparrow: now should i need to run sudo apt-get update
[05:50] <EvilNoob> trying to run it with opengl from kubuntu
[05:50] <EvilNoob> w
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> tv7497 yes please
[05:50] <fleg2> i'm trying to add my login to the 'video' group.  however, 'video' doesn't show up in my group list
[05:50] <_Brun0_> what's best solution for minimizing applications (such as Evolution) to system tray? Anybody has experience with AllTray or KDocker?
[05:50] <rledge21> which option? the edit? press ctrl-s, select a server, and click edit...then it shows a window where you can input your password
 so what doi you what todo again
[05:51] <AzureFoxFire> i got a question bout the 8.04 "install inside windows" option
[05:51] <Bikerbob> cant get sudo passwrd to work.. anyone have another suggestion?
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !noroot
[05:51] <iceolate> m_newton: it seems he can list the file, but not copy the files
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Bikerbob What are you trying to do
[05:51] <Bikerbob> just trying to get my root account working..
 did he try cp?
[05:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Bikerbob We dont support root
[05:52] <rledge21> Bikerbob, Ubuntu does not do root accounts
[05:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !root
 sudo
[05:52] <iceolate> m_newton: i'm in konqueror now using the fish protocol. if that doesn't work , i am gonna hve him go into the terminal
[05:52] <tv7497> Jack_Sparrow: root password thats funny
[05:52] <Jack_Sparrow> I thought so
[05:52] <Bikerbob> ok.. well that is not allowing me access to some things when I am trying to install
[05:52] <nantax> so there is no spoon? err i mean root? :)
[05:53] <AzureFoxFire> ._.
[05:53] <Bikerbob> it says this user does not have permissions
[05:53] <Jack_Sparrow> SOme of tha factoids are really funny.. or not dependng on your point of view
[05:53] <moshe> now you know the TAO of ubuntu
 sorry, i dont use konqueror, gnome for me
[05:53] <AzureFoxFire> lol you can always reformat and reinstall
[05:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Bikerbob Are you using the original user account that was setup during install
[05:54] <m_newton> !root
[05:54] <Bikerbob> think so.. only one I have
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Bikerbob can you do sudo fdisk -l ?
[05:55] <m_newton> ssh!
[05:55] <Bikerbob> ok worked
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Bikerbob If you have been doing things as root incorrectly you could have messed up your permissions
[05:55] <m_newton> !ssh ?
[05:55] <gavin__> Hi everyone. When I ran Feisty, my system booted very fast. I upgraded to Gutsy, now it takes 6 minutes to boot. I am a newbie. How do I fix it
[05:55] <m_newton> !ssh
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Bikerbob So what do you want to run as root
[05:55] <darkcrab> i keep getting this when trying to burn a .cue file: http://pastebin.com/m778f043e
[05:55] <m_newton> !sshd
[05:55] <darkcrab> can anyone help?
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> gavin__ Start by removing splash from your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:56] <iceolate> m_newton: i only installed konqueror for that, that is how my one friend has me connect to his scp/ssh server
[05:56] <iceolate> i will ask him.
[05:56] <Weems> im trying to setup a local dns server but I only get ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED when I run dig on a url.
[05:56] <Bikerbob> I was getting refusals when trying to install some programs.
[05:56] <iceolate> thank you for your help though. at the very least, my friend can log in and see my directory
[05:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Bikerbob What are you trying to install
[05:56] <nantax> You should never use sudo to start graphical applications as root. You should use gksudo to run such programs. why is that?
[05:56] <Weems> dnsmasq isthe one im running.
[05:56] <tv7497> Jack_Sparrow: sir i think the problem is not solved take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/17101/
[05:57] <gavin__> Jack_Sparrow. When it boots the screen remains black until I reach the login screen
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> nantax: gksudo loads a saner environment for that particular purpose in terms of variables and scripts sourced.
[05:57] <AzureFoxFire> how much HD space does the intigrated windows instalation need in 8.04, it only gives me like 4 and 5 gigs on the installer wich is just about how much space i have left ._.
[05:57] <nantax> tonyyarusso: thanks
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !find mono-runtime
[05:58] <Bikerbob> cant remember off the top of my head it was through the shell.. but maybe I was not entering the command correct.
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !info mono-runtime
[05:58] <Bikerbob> it was giving me the response that this user did not have permission.
[05:59] <Gralco> can anyone help me with a problem?
[05:59] <bradd4> bikerbob: try to install as root
[05:59] <Bikerbob> thats what I wanted to do.. but everyone is telling me not to use the root account.
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Bikerbob when we say to install as root user.. we mean using sudo
[06:00] <_Lukstr> Okay, so I've booted up into repair mode on the box, have the partition in question mounted, how should I go about making sure everything is okay?
[06:00] <Bikerbob> OH I remember it was something that needed a GUI install.. and so there was no way to enter SUDO.. you needed to be root to run it.
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> _Lukstr sudo fdisk -l
[06:00] <_Lukstr> thank you
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[06:01] <bradd4> bikerbob : deb package?
[06:01] <Bikerbob> no.. something with an actual installer..
[06:01] <tv7497> Jack_Sparrow: sir what might be the problem ????
[06:01] <k1dugar> !ubotu
[06:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Bikerbob Please be very careful and dont use the debian repos.. you can really break your system
[06:01] <entzweiSchatten> hey, does anybody know why as soon as I run tcpdump or something running libpcap my network gets stall and I need to refresh my network?
[06:01] <_Lukstr> Jack_Sparrow: what should I be looking for?
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> Bikerbob: what is it?
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> tv7497 Not sure why you are not getting the updates   Try synaptic
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> _Lukstr MAke sure you see the partition you think you lost
[06:02] <Bikerbob> I would have to go back and look .. I have forgotten .. spent so much time in the last while trying to get root working.. lol
[06:02] <Jack_Sparrow> _Lukstr Then mount it and browse it
[06:02] <dubby> hey guys ___48283 is a spam bot for one, and 2 what just happened to my open office...
[06:03] <tv7497> Jack_Sparrow: omg !!! i am too much attached to this little guy its hard for me { gui of synaptic }
[06:03] <Bikerbob> I am a dog on a bone with a problem.. so I forgot what it was I was trying to do
[06:03] <micahcowan> Yeah, I just got spammed by ____48283 as well. Ops?
[06:03] <_Lukstr> Jack_Sparrow: It's already mounted and I'm sitting in it
[06:03] <dubby> an update that must have come out within the past 2 hours has removed open office
[06:03] <Jack_Sparrow> That one
[06:04] <Gralco> how do i make my laptop's physical volume control control PCM?
[06:04] <micahcowan> Thanks Jack_Sparrow
[06:04] <Jack_Sparrow> micahcowan Got him.. handled
[06:04] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> _Lukstr Save it to a usb or any way you can...
[06:06] <_Lukstr> Roger that.
[06:07] <Jack_Sparrow> _Lukstr Glad you didnt lost anything
[06:07] <Jack_Sparrow> People.. play nice.. time for me to go
[06:07] <_Lukstr> thank you
[06:07] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:07] <DragonSpirit> what's nice?
[06:07] <nantax> later Jack_Sparrow
[06:07] <rathin> hi everybody can u help me fix flash player in firefox
[06:07] <MeVsTheVoices> How would I fix the error message E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:08] <Jack_Sparrow> DragonSpirit You know what I mean
[06:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[06:08] <rathin> the problem is that i have installed the plugin but still i am not able to see the videos
[06:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !flash
[06:08] <bradd4> in hardy, the menu order in "system" "administration" or "preferences", is it exactly the same as gutsy?
[06:08] <dubby> hey a bunch of open office programs have been "kept back" due to the fact that their dependency is of greater version then they are, can someone help me or know when this error is to be rectified ?
[06:08] <knoppix> dsdg
[06:08] <bradd4> in hardy, the menu order in "system" "administration" or "preferences", is it exactly the same as gutsy?anyone?
[06:09] <zutme> i enabled the hardy proposed updates in the software sources dialog. now I would like to revert back to not using any software in these proposed updates. how would i do that? I unchecked the checkbox for proposed in the software sources dialog
[06:09] <MeVsTheVoices> Nope still got the error message
[06:09] <nantax> system -> preference -> administration
[06:10] <Jack_Sparrow> zutme now that you removed proposed... sudo apt-get updte
[06:10] <ian_`> I just installed ubuntu 8.04 -- and enabled the nvidia-glx-new via the hardware drive restricted manager, but now after I restarted my pc i'm just geting a white screen with one black streak -- does anyone know ho to solve this? I have a 8600m.
[06:10] <Jack_Sparrow> update
[06:10] <MeVsTheVoices> Still got an error code
[06:10] <sensae> I'm having very weird behavior in Exaile when trying to sync my iPod.
[06:10] <skb> is there a possibility that my ubuntu iso file is corrupt even after correctly verifying the md5checksum?; I burned 4 cd's at 4x but somehow getting errors on *check cd for defects*, couldn't even go up till the live ubuntu
[06:11] <nantax> ian_`, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813581
[06:11] <wilting> Is there any way to remove/disable the image the panel bar uses to make it transparent when it can't be made transparent just through right clicking the panel > properties > background > solid color?
[06:11] <zutme> Jack_Sparrow, that doesn't seem to roll back all the updates though
[06:11] <iceolate> m_newton: thanks for the help. my friend is gonna get online and finish me off. thanks a lot for getting me this far. you helped me alot! i wrote this all down in my notebook. see ya
[06:11] <Jack_Sparrow> zutme It will NOT roll back anything..
[06:11] <sensae> How do I sync my iPod in Exaile?
[06:12] <zutme> Jack_Sparrow, wow that's a lot different from what i'm used to i.e. long time gentoo/portage user
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> zutme A good reason to make occasional backups.. proposed can break systems.
[06:13] <zutme> Jack_Sparrow, well only openoffice is broken at the moment by my own stupidity
[06:13] <DSSTer> Hello, can someone point me to the right direction? I am looking for a free shell account basically for EggDrop and a g++
[06:13] <Gralco> how do I choose the type of volume my laptop can control
[06:13] <DaveKong> Anyone know how to resolve this error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17103/ ?
[06:13] <EvilNoob> appdb.winehq.com comments were no help at all for running WoW on Kubuntu Gutsy
[06:13] <zutme> i accidentally uninstalled it and can't really figure out how it should be reinstalled
[06:13] <sinoohe> hi to all
[06:13] <sensae> Does anybody know how I can sync my iPod in Exaile?
[06:13] <sinoohe> can any one give me your repository??
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> EvilNoob /join #winehq
[06:14] <sensae> Failing that, how can I make Rhythmbox read ID3v2.4? It's reading 2.3
[06:14] <sinoohe> I installed Kubuntu today . I want add repository
[06:14] <sensae> All my files are tagged 2.4. Exaile's one of the few mp3 players that will read 2.4
[06:14] <knoppix> Hiiiiiiiiiii
[06:14] <knoppix> dasf
[06:14] <EvilNoob> thanls
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !find rhythmbox
[06:14] <dubby> help anyone else have a problem with open-office ?
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !info rhythmbox
[06:14] <wilting> sensae: I had trouble using my iPod with Exaile, also.  Have you tried using gtkpod?  It's a pretty comprehensive and stable app.  It even includes 'remember playback position', which most others don't.
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> dubby Do you have proposed repos enabled?
[06:15] <sensae> wilting: No, I haven't tried gtkpod. I'm looking for a comprehensive mp3 player with iPod support. It was my impression gtkpod just does syncing, am I wrong?
[06:15] <skb> is there a possibility that my ubuntu iso file is corrupt even after correctly verifying the md5checksum?; I burned 4 cd's at 4x but somehow getting errors on *check cd for defects*, couldn't even go up till the live ubuntu
[06:15] <zutme> how can i downgrade a package?
[06:15] <DaemonLee> Question, is there anyway to make proftpd update it's IP when it changes?
[06:16] <DaemonLee> I don't have a static IP range on networks that I'm interacting with.
[06:17] <DSSTer> Looking for free shell accont, anyone have any suggestions?
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !downgrade
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot DSSTer
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | DSSTer
[06:18] <DSSTer> got ya
[06:18] <wilting> Yeah, it does a lot more than syncing.  You can drag individual files/folders to and from your iPod with it.  It does pretty much everything iTunes does that involves iPod transfers.
[06:18] <yash1234> hi
[06:18] <DaemonLee> Question, is there anyway to make proftpd update it's IP when it changes? Because, I don't have a static ip on any networks that I'm on.
[06:18] <yash1234> how to uninstall ubuntu
[06:18] <Starnestommy> yash1234: erase its partition
[06:18] <yash1234> it will loose the grub too
[06:19] <sensae> wilting: How well does it work as a full mp3 player though? As in a replacement for rhythmbox?
[06:19] <yash1234> i have other os also installed
[06:19] <jRd> DaemonLee: you should use dynamic dns the
[06:19] <jRd> then
[06:19] <kelvin911> Hi which software is the best for printing photo?
[06:20] <Starnestommy> yash1234: if you're going back to windows, you'll need to use the recovery/install cd for it to replace grub witht he windows bootloader
[06:20] <ibrahim> Hello all, I have a problem with my sound card (HDAIntel) I don't know that problem is specific for my hardware. The problem is I cannot hear sounds for multiple application. For example I cannot hear any sound on firefox when I listen music on rythmbox. Any help will be appreciate.
[06:20] <nantax> yash1234, wait for me, rebooting to winxp i have the bookmark there...
[06:20] <DaveKong> Anyone having problems with java(tm) apps even though they installed java6? I don't know what is going on...
[06:20] <yash1234> ok
[06:20] <jRd> anyone can help with an issue about nvidia drivers and newly compiled kernel^
[06:21] <wilting> sensae: It doesn't work well that way at all, unfortunately.  I use both Exaile and gtkpod.  Gtkpod can be used an mp3 player, but it's nowhere near a full fledged player.
[06:21] <sensae> wilting: Alright. Drat
[06:22] <sensae> wilting: I guess I could probably live with using two separate programs.
[06:22] <DaemonLee> jRd, is there a way to make proftpd recongize that my IP changes?
[06:22] <kelvin911> how to print photo in ubuntu??
[06:22] <kelvin911> i cant get it working
[06:22] <MeVsTheVoices> If anyone ever wants to know this in the future, to fix apt get the seeming best way is dpkg-reconfigure
[06:23] <tyler_> Hey guys im having soem trouble with cinelerra any help?
[06:23] <sensae> Oh lovely..
[06:23] <sensae> GTKpod won't even import my collection
[06:23] <DaemonLee> Try f-spot or Picasa.
[06:23] <wilting> sensae: Yeah, I feel the same way.  I, mostly, use gtkpod just for it's bookmarking for audiobooks.  I got used to using two apps pretty quick, though.
[06:23] <DaemonLee> GTKpod always gave me flack, too.
[06:23] <zutme> is there any way to see all the packages installed with ubuntu by default that i do not have installed?
[06:24] <tyler_> WHen i render the project i just created in CINELERRA it comes out as if it were zooomed in.
[06:24] <tyler_> Any suggestions?
[06:24] <jRd> DaemonLee: you would have to use a dynamic dns service like dyndns.org
[06:24] <sensae> -sigh- I'm about ready to move to Kubuntu - It had nice proper iPod support through Amarok. in Ubuntu, Amarok doesn't work well at all, lol
[06:24] <DaemonLee> jRd, and how would that interface with proftpd?
[06:25] <wilting> jRd: Firstly, what did you compile into the new kernel?
[06:25] <tilgovi> evolution-data-server is running at 99% of my cpu constantly....any suggestion how to debug?
[06:25] <kelvin911> in gThumb i click print, i select M210_series but nothing print?
[06:25] <tyler_> Speaking of iPod rhythumbox deleted all my album artowrk on my iPod how can i get it back
[06:25] <kelvin911> i have canon mp210 printer
[06:25] <skb> is there a possibility that my ubuntu iso file is corrupt even after correctly verifying the md5checksum?; I burned 4 cd's at 4x but somehow getting errors on *check cd for defects*, couldn't even go up till the live ubuntu
[06:26] <jRd> wilting: i compiled the 2.6.25 kernel from kernel.org with 2.6.26rc3 prepatch
[06:26] <Rozza> hey guys, im trying to get my wireless keyboard to work, but, i get it all setup through bluetooth and i try to type and it doesnt work,
[06:27] <wilting> jRd, what changes did you make, though?  I mean why did you have to use the newer kernel?
[06:27] <micahcowan> skb, sounds like a problem in the burning process, not the iso.
[06:27] <nantax> wha was it that wanted to remove ubuntu? http://www.sysint.no/nedlasting/mbrfix.htm
[06:27] <sensae> Anyone here using Kubuntu 8.04?
[06:27] <Rozza> yes..
[06:27] <micahcowan> The chances of a corrupt version matching the md5checksum (by accident) is quite low.
[06:27] <skb> i am using imgburn
[06:28] <Rozza> Help anyone?
[06:28] <Jef1> which distro would be best for a newb to linux?
[06:28] <jRd> DaemonLee: by doing so, the website would giv you and adress, like example.dyndns.org, and you would have to configure your computer with a client that would upload its adress to the website everytime it changes so the example.dyndns.org would forward to you.
[06:28] <tilgovi> Jef1: ubuntu is pretty damn good
[06:28] <tyler_> ubuntu
[06:28] <micahcowan> Jef1, you're asking in a place where the answer will clearly be biased... But IMO Ubuntu's hard to beat.
[06:28] <Rozza> .
[06:28] <smokie> jef1 definitely ubuntu
[06:28] <nantax> lol
[06:28] <Jef1> haha
[06:29] <Jef1> just checking :)
[06:29] <Rozza> evreyone ignores.. .-.
[06:29] <micahcowan> Jef1, 'course, the question is off-topic...
[06:29] <jRd> wilting: nope I compiled it just so it could use my specific processor and to gain some speed
[06:29] <powertool08> Jef1: i suggest spending some time with live cd's before installing anything
[06:29] <micahcowan> Rozza, patience. And, not everyone knows the answer to everything. :(
[06:29] <Rozza> >_>
[06:29] <micahcowan> powertool08++
[06:29] <tyler_> When i tyr to rendr a movie on Cinelerra it works fine. But when igo to open it after the rendring its as if someone had zooomed into it? Any suggestions?
[06:29] <kelvin911> anyone know how to print photo in ubuntu?
[06:30] <kelvin911> what is SendFF?
[06:30] <sensae> If I install the KDE metapackage, how easy is it to remove everything GNOME?
[06:30] <tilgovi> Jef1: Just to play devil's advocate, I'm going to say gentoo as a first distro.  It was my first distro, and I learned a lot!
[06:30] <tilgovi> Jef1: But you have to be willing to invest, um...a lot
[06:30] <micahcowan> sensae, well, AIUI, you have to uninstall the ubuntu-desktop metapackage.
[06:30] <powertool08> Jef1: then you can have an idea of whether you want your distro based on, whether you prefer gnome/kde/other, etc
[06:30] <sensae> micahcowan: Last time I tried that the metapackage got removed, but nothing inside the metapackge
[06:31] <zutme> Is there any way to install all default ubuntu packages?
[06:31] <powertool08> Jef1: *what you want it based on (debian or something else)
[06:31] <Jef1> where would i find a good idiots guide to gnome or KDE?
[06:31] <tyler_> does edubuntu come in server version?
[06:31] <jbroome> zutme: yeah, install the CD
[06:31] <sensae> It would be nice to be able to wipe all GNOME and GTK programs and install KDE without reformatting
[06:31] <jRd> DaemonLee: thats te way to do it when you don<t have a static adress
[06:31] <smokie> jef1 i started with fedora, really any distro that has suppport or forums out there can be okay it just depends how much you are willing to read and how much time you wanna spend setting it up
[06:31] <tilgovi> Jef1: You don't need a guide for KDE/gnome.
[06:31] <zutme> jbroome, i've already got a working system. i want to find packages i have removed accidentally withouyt wiping out the whole syste
[06:31] <Rozza> *sigh..*
[06:32] <micahcowan> sensae, which can cause problems when you choose to upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu (you should first re-install that meta-package, and then you can remove it again afterwards).
[06:32] <Jef1> well, im reading stuff on getting my ATI card to work.. but whats a good general "you got linux, now what" ?
[06:32] <wilting> jRd, you'd probably have to look through the nvidia site for a specific fix and there may not be an easy one.  Commercial drivers rarely support something for a release candidate, even though the changes that affect their driver are quite minimal.
[06:32] <sensae> micahcowan: Er? Would it just be easier to format and use a KDE disc? lol
[06:33] <selocol> Hello, after installing a .deb package, do I need to keep the .deb file?
[06:33] <smokie> you can usually google, "setting up -fill in distro here" and you should be able to find one
[06:33] <micahcowan> sensae, right (re: the metapackage not removing other packages). Any additional packages you want removed, you should remove by hand. You could probably use aptitude to automate it, but it might be overzealous.
[06:33] <sensae> micahcowan: Meh, my home directory is mounted over NFS on a FreeBSD system anyway - I'm not losing much, lol. I'll just format.
[06:33] <Rozza> iim trying to get my wireless keyboard to work, but, i get it all setup through bluetooth and i try to type and it doesnt work,
[06:33] <nantax> Jef1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=801404
[06:33] <zvacet> selocol : if you think om one you downloaded from some site then no
[06:34] <micahcowan> sensae, you might just be able to (1) remove the ubuntu-desktop, (2) edit your apt.sources to point at kubuntu, and (3) install kubuntu-desktop. I'd look for docs on how to do that, though (if there are any).
[06:34] <kelvin911> how do i know if i have setup my printer right?
[06:34] <micahcowan> sensae, and you're sure you want KDE?
[06:34] <powertool08> kelvin911: does it print?
[06:34] <Jef1> danka! ill hope on that now- got oodles of time
[06:34] <moshe> does it print?
[06:34] <selocol> zvacet: if i delete the .deb package, i can still remove the installed program, right?
[06:35] <sensae> micahcowan: I've used Kubuntu before, I usually prefer it. Last time I used it though was 7.10 and I didn't get good hardware support. On a whim I decided to get GNOME a try
[06:35] <sensae> micahcowan: and I forgot how much it annoys me at times, lol
[06:35] <DVS01> selocol: yes, you refer to it by its installed package name when uninstalling it
[06:36] <selocol> DVS01: thanks
[06:36] <DVS01> np
[06:36] <zvacet> selocol :yes
[06:37] <kelvin911> powertool08: no it doesnt print
[06:37] <DVS01> you can look in /var/log/dpkg.log to see your package management activity
[06:37] <c0_wboy> need help configuring unixodbc in hardy 64 bit please
[06:37] <powertool08> kelvin911: then i guess its not setup right :P
[06:37] <powertool08> kelvin911: what brand/model is it?
[06:38] <kelvin911> powertool08: canon mp210
[06:38] <kelvin911> i can print and scan in windows
[06:38] <kelvin911> but in ubuntu i can only manage to make scanner work
[06:38] <kelvin911> dont know how to print?
[06:38] <zvacet> sensae : sudo tasksel and uncheck desktop you want to remove and check one you want to install
[06:39] <sensae> zvacet: Can I check Kubuntu as well, make sure everything's smooth, then remove ubuntu?
[06:39] <Rozza> anyone..?
[06:40] <zvacet> sensae : I right now read what I said to you and thinking the same
[06:40] <fair> i m
[06:40] <fair> .
[06:40] <kelvin911> do i have to goto printer configuration?
[06:40] <powertool08> kelvin911: see if this works for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=556980
[06:40] <kelvin911> to set printer default?
[06:40] <sensae> zvacet: KK it's worth a shot
[06:40] <sensae> zvacet: Thanks
[06:40] <AbuAnsar> nice to see ladies also use linux :)
[06:40] <powertool08> kelvin911: there is a short guide about 5 posts down
[06:40] <nantax> kelvin911: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/printing/C/index.html
[06:41] <zvacet> sensae : in short yes,do it that way
[06:42] <powertool08> kelvin911: actually the person in post #9 claims to get it working
[06:43] <kelvin911> CUPS server error.  There was an error during the CUPS operation: 'client-error-document-format-not-supported'.
[06:43] <Panik> I'm having issues with launching any administrative task
[06:43] <Panik> they wont open
[06:43] <Panik> no promp for password no nothing
[06:44] <Myrtti> tv7497: did you get your problem fixed?
[06:44] <powertool08> kelvin911: hmm, you might have better luck with nantax link, i haven't dealt with printers much, my hp works with one apt install
[06:44] <tv7497> Myrtti: no
[06:44] <micahcowan> Panik, could you try running the program "gksu" from a command-line?
[06:44] <kelvin911> what is nantax link?
[06:45] <Myrtti> tv7497: you've asked here, right?
[06:45] <zvacet> Panik : type sudo and press enter ans see do you get any errors
[06:45] <Kitu> how to see logs for compilations errors with gcc ?
[06:45] <sensae> zvacet: Where did you find that information? The package manager isn't doing anything, lol
[06:45] <Kitu> hello*
[06:45] <tv7497> Myrtti: every where even in offtopic stiill the error exists
[06:45] <powertool08> kelvin911: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/printing/C/index.html
[06:45] <micahcowan> Kitu, "how to see logs" when you're doing what?
[06:45] <Panik> i only get
[06:46] <zvacet> sensae : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:46] <micahcowan> By default, any build with make/gcc will spew copious logs.
[06:46] <Panik> sudo unable to resolve host Matrix, then the command list
[06:46] <Panik> eg usage
[06:46] <c0_wboy> need help configuring unixodbc with OOO Base in ubuntu hardy 64 bit please
[06:46] <quicksilver_> Hello everybody: Newbie question here... But does anybody have a good easy link that I can use to figure out how to use WINE under Ubuntu 8.04?
[06:46] <Flannel> !wine | quicksilver_
[06:46] <Kitu> micahcowan, i want to compile a program with GCC, but while that there are some errors ...
[06:46] <Kitu> so i want to see the Logs
[06:46] <Peddy> can someone please help me with Wine? Here's the full output of winecfg and other wine-related commands: http://pastebin.ca/1039243
[06:47] <JbCrash>  http://www.geocities.com/razoblade79/new.png  <-- why i cant make my explorer /any application fullscreen? pls check my screenshot
[06:47] <Kitu> to see details errors
[06:47] <lainy> is it safe to uninstall old kernel versions? i have 3 different versions in my grub menu and it's rather cluttered
[06:47] <quicksilver_> LOL. Oh! Well how about that! Thanks Flannel!
[06:47] <Flannel> Kitu: the errors should be printing to stderr (and probably the screen)
[06:47] <Kitu> stderr ?
[06:47] <micahcowan> Kitu, all errors will appear on the screen, for normal builds. If you're doing something specific, please mention what it is.
[06:47] <Kitu> hum on the screen ?
[06:47] <Starnestommy> Kitu: the standard error stream
[06:47] <Flannel> lainy: Yep, just remove the package with package management.  It's usually a good idea to keep one known good version though when upgrdaing (in case you find a regression)
[06:47] <Kitu> but ....
[06:47] <zvacet> Panik : type hostname and edit etc/hosts and see if they match if don´t  change one in etc/hosts
[06:47] <micahcowan> Kitu, first off, are you certain you have gcc installed? It isn't, by default.
[06:47] <lainy> Flannel: alright thanks
[06:48] <eshrickus> Can anyone help me use gnome-schedule? I'm trying to run transmission at a certain time, and the task will run if I tell it to, but not when scheduled
[06:48] <Kartagis> good morning
[06:48] <ian_`> I keep getting a "unable to find the kernal source tree for the currently running kernel." Error when trying to install the latest nvidia drivers? Any ideas?
[06:48] <Panik> if they match?
[06:48] <Panik> my host says
[06:48] <Panik> Matrix
[06:48] <Kitu> micahcowan, yes
[06:48] <Panik> when i type hostname
[06:48] <Kitu> make[2]: *** [/home/kiki/Bureau/qc-usb-0.6.6/qc-driver.o] Erreur 1
[06:48] <FloodBot1> Panik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:48] <Kitu> make[1]: *** [_module_/home/kiki/Bureau/qc-usb-0.6.6] Erreur 2
[06:48] <Kartagis> i see only the desktop, nothing else
[06:48] <Kitu> i don't have more informations for errors
[06:48] <Panik> whats it supposed to be zvacet
[06:48] <Kartagis> no menu, no launchers, nothing
[06:49] <micahcowan> Kitu, those are the only lines that appear at all, after you type "make"?
[06:49] <Kartagis> i can't start any applications either
[06:49] <kelvin911> powertool08: i download those 2 deb files and did this sudo dpkg -i cnijfilter-common_2.80-1_i386.deb cnijfilter-mp210series_2.80-1_i386.deb
[06:49] <Kitu> micahcowan, yes it's only lines
[06:49] <kelvin911> powertool08: but still cant get it to work?
[06:49] <micahcowan> Those messages usually appear after others.
[06:49] <Kitu> micahcowan, in fatc no but similar lines
[06:50] <dobblego> how do I turn off this fancy window open/close thing?
[06:50] <micahcowan> Kitu, could you pastebin the full results, starting with the actual command you type (with "make"), and ending with those final lines?
[06:50] <eshrickus> Can anyone help me use gnome-schedule? I'm trying to run transmission at a certain time, and the task will run if I tell it to, but not when scheduled
[06:50] <Kitu> make[2]: *** [/home/kiki/Bureau/qc-usb-0.6.6/qc-driver.o] Erreur 1 | make[1]: *** [_module_/home/kiki/Bureau/qc-usb-0.6.6] Erreur 2 | make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-18-generic » | make: *** [quickcam.ko] Erreur 2 | kiki@kiki-desktop:~/Bureau/qc-usb-0.6.6$ cd ..
[06:50] <zvacet> sensae : for remove ubuntu http://psychocats.s465.sureserver.com/ubuntu/purekde read remove ubuntu
[06:50] <Kitu> it's my errors at the end of compilation
[06:50] <Kitu> ok micahcowan
[06:51] <JbCrash>  http://www.geocities.com/razoblade79/new.png  <-- why i cant make my explorer /any application fullscreen? pls check my screenshot
[06:51] <powertool08> kelvin911: i don't know what else to tell you, sorry, i'm still somewhat of a newbie myself, good luck and maybe somebody else will know?
[06:51] <zutme> if i make a version forced in synaptic how can i undo this later?
[06:51] <micahcowan> Kitu, make normally prints each command as it executes: those messages indicate a failed command. There should at _least_ be a line that indicates what the last, failing command was, unless echoing was explicitly turned off for that command (which would be very unusual, for commands other than echo).
[06:52] <kelvin911> powertool08: thanks
[06:52] <Kitu> micahcowan, i believe that i had not see .. sorry
[06:52] <kelvin911> powertool08: maybe i will boot back to windows to print
[06:52] <Kitu> appaerly I don't have autoconf
[06:52] <wlx> hi
[06:52] <Kitu> micahcowan, http://pastebin.com/m70400b2f
[06:53] <eshrickus> Can anyone help me use gnome-schedule? I'm trying to run transmission at a certain time, and the task will run if I tell it to, but not when scheduled
[06:53] <Kitu> include/linux/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing." ...
[06:53] <zutme> when i do sudo apt-get install openoffice.org i get this http://pastebin.ca/1039247 Ideas? Please? I'm really confused here
[06:54] <wlx> when I use skype video in hardy, I will get high cpu usage, and get high temperature, then get system died, so what's the problem here?
[06:54] <anas> is there some program let me use python in  visual
[06:55] <Ububegin> How do i change this command... *grep -rl "helloWorld" .  * so that it will also search the hidden files also
[06:55] <Rozza5> can anyone help with a wireless keyboard problem?
[06:55] <Rabbitbunny> Ububegin: man grep
[06:56] <micahcowan> Kitu, the lines noting "erreurs" for qc-driver.c are your problem.
[06:56] <Kitu> micahcowan, i believed that installing autoconf package will resolve the problem, but no
[06:56] <Kitu> ?
[06:56] <kelvin911> powertool08: do i need the ppd file?
[06:56] <c0_wboy> why does OOO base crash when i try to create a table in my MySQL linked database file
[06:56] <Kitu> nothing "erreurs" ?
[06:56] <kelvin911> i cant find the ppd file for canon mp210
[06:56] <eshrickus> Can anyone help me use gnome-schedule? I'm trying to run transmission at a certain time, and the task will run if I tell it to, but not when scheduled
[06:56] <micahcowan> Kitu, normally, autoconf is only needed for development versions of software: it generates the "configure" script. If a configure script already exists, autoconf should be unnecessary.
[06:57] <Kitu> micahcowan, qc-driver is bugged ?
[06:57] <Rabbitbunny> eshrickus: Have you read a tut on cron? are you telling cron to use the same command to lauch that you are?
[06:57] <ian_`> I keep getting a "unable to find the kernal source tree for the currently running kernel." Error when trying to install the latest nvidia drivers? Any ideas?
[06:58] <micahcowan> Kitu, could you do me a favor and run your make command, but prepend "LC_ALL=C LANGUAGE= " at the very beginning, and prepend the results?
[06:58] <micahcowan> * prepend the results -> pastebin
[06:58] <Ububegin> Rabbitbunny: there's no mention of hidden files in man grep
[06:58] <eshrickus> Rabbitbunny, I'm using the schedule GUI, and the command is "transmission", which runs if i tell it run task, but not when it is scheduled to
[06:58] <micahcowan> Kitu, the intended consequence is that that action should produce error messages in English, which I'll be better able to analyze. :)
[06:58] <Rabbitbunny> Ububegin: Then your next step is going to be Google.
[06:58] <Rabbitbunny> eshrickus: Open a terminal and run that command.
[06:59] <kelvin911> powertool08: i got it to work
[06:59] <eshrickus> Rabbitbunny, does as it is supposed to
[06:59] <kelvin911> powertool08: i have to manually search for a file in /usr/share/ppd
[07:00] <kelvin911> powertool08: i wonder why there isnt any manual or instruction....
[07:00] <Rabbitbunny> eshrickus: I would look into timing next, check the cron entries vie CLI, I had problems with gnome-scedule.
[07:00] <Kitu> micahcowan, make "LC_ALL = C LANGUAGE ="french" ?
[07:00] <Jef1> how do i install flash player- ive downloaded and extracted it to my desktop
[07:00] <Jef1> ?
[07:00] <eshrickus> Rabbitbunny, i'll try that, but do you recommend any scheduling GUI?
[07:00] <Kitu> hum
[07:00] <Kitu> wait
[07:00] <Kartagis> help me please
[07:00] <Kartagis> i see only the desktop, nothing else
[07:00] <Ububegin> How do i change this command... *grep -rl "helloWorld" . * so that it will also search the hidden files also ... Anyone else knows the answer to this problem.. thanks
[07:01] <Kartagis> no menu, no launchers, nothing
[07:01] <Kartagis> i can't start any applications either
[07:01] <Rabbitbunny> eshrickus: I didn't bother looking, the CLI is my preferred interface.
[07:01] <micahcowan> Kitu, no spaces around the = symbols, and leave the one after LANGUAGE blank on the right side (the "LANGUAGE=" bit may not be necessary, actually).
[07:01] <Kitu> it's good, i paste
[07:01] <Panik> I seem to have issues with my dialog boxes
[07:01] <Kitu> micahcowan, http://rafb.net/p/tfILWb84.html
[07:01] <Panik> sometimes they're too big and long and I cant scroll down
[07:01] <micahcowan> Ububegin, add .[!.]* as an extra argument
[07:02] <micahcowan> (".* would also work, Ububegin, but it would include the . and .. entries as well, which you don't want)
[07:02] <micahcowan> Kitu:   "LC_ALL=C make", without the quotes.
[07:03] <Ububegin> micahcowan : grep -rl "helloWorld" .[!.]*            do you mean this...
[07:03] <Kitu> micahcowan, show me the command entierly
[07:03] <micahcowan> LC_ALL=C make
[07:03] <Kitu> ok
[07:03] <Kitu> lol
[07:03] <micahcowan> Ububegin, grep -rl "helloWorld" * .[!.]*
[07:03] <Jef1> nm- i figured it out. I had to run it in terminal instead
[07:03] <Kitu> euh
[07:04] <Panik> has anybody been able to get an ATI AIW 9000 card to work on ubuntu?
[07:04] <Kitu> micahcowan, in fact there is a ubuntu package lol
[07:04] <Kitu> it's more simple i thing :)
[07:04] <Rozza> i still need help...
[07:04] <micahcowan> Kitu, yes, and will be managed better, with the package system.
[07:05] <Kitu> and i am "pressed"
[07:05] <Kitu> thank you micahcowan
[07:05] <zgmf-x13a> hey all, got a fairly specific question.  will the fujitsu scan snap s300 work out of the box with ubuntu?  if so, what app will work with it???
[07:05] <micahcowan> Rozza, sorry :( ...you might try the support mailing list at https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Community+Support
[07:05] <micahcowan> Kitu, yw
[07:06] <zgmf-x13a> hey all, got a fairly specific question.  will the fujitsu scan snap s300 work out of the box with ubuntu 7.10?  if so, what app will work with it???
[07:07] <styles> Hey, Ubuntu will no longer detect my Nvidia videocard (its a 6600) It saids its Unknown! It was known before a restart! WTF?
[07:07] <micahcowan> Panik: wrt large dialog boxes: try holding alt and then click-dragging on the window.
[07:08] <Rozza> ...
[07:08] <micahcowan> styles, hm, there was a linux kernel upgrade in my update manager today... that could be the cause?
[07:08] <micahcowan> Might need to select the older kernel for now in Grub, and perhaps report a bug if that fixes it.
[07:08] <Flannel> zgmf-x13a: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-FUJITSU search that page for "s300" and you'll see, yes.
[07:08] <mvinsc> My laptop came with a remote and 'infrared remote control' doesn't auto detect.
[07:09] <Rozza> How do i upgrade to kubuntu without reinstalling evreything?
[07:09] <mvinsc> All i get is Could not find any IR receiver. Is your device attached?
[07:09] <styles> micahcowan: no it was before todays kernal upgrade. I havnt gotten around to figure out what it was. But it didn't fix / change anything. I know the cards not dead too because I can play games fine on my windows partition.
[07:09] <micahcowan> styles, or, perhaps your package update was incomplete (missed the new restricted drivers)
[07:09] <micahcowan> oh
[07:09] <dubby> ok anyone, I have a server currently running dapper-drake and im trying to dist-upgrade to hardy but it halts with error (removing ubuntu-desktop but package under blacklist) error an essential package would have been removed
[07:09] <styles> micahcowan: how do I check my restricted drivers and such?
[07:09] <Rozza> How do i upgrade to kubuntu without reinstalling evreything?...
[07:09] <dubby> Rozza upgrade to kubuntu?
[07:10] <Rozza> how
[07:10] <dubby> meaning you have ubuntu now?
[07:10] <dubby> in synaptic instal kubuntu-desktop
[07:10] <micahcowan> styles, surely _something_ must have changed between when it worked and when it stopped working?
[07:10] <styles> Rozza, google it.  I Looked at it ealier. I want to just reset it
[07:10] <Flannel> !langauge | styles
[07:11] <styles> Flannel: sorry
[07:11] <Flannel> Rozza: If you're looking to remove Ubuntu at the same time, http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[07:11] <Rozza> sudo: aptitide: command not found
[07:11] <powertool08> Rozza: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[07:11] <zvacet> Rozza : my mistake it is aptitude
[07:12] <Rozza> Oh
[07:12] <Rozza> =p
[07:12] <micahcowan> dubby, hm... as I understand it, you want to upgrade a version of Ubuntu only to the following version, and not directly across versions. So, to edgy eft, first, and so on. I think? ...I'll probably be in your shoes, too, before long; my VPS is running dapper.
[07:12] <zgmf-x13a> Flannel: hey thanks for the link checking it out now, didnt come across it in my search so far.
[07:12] <nickolaus> I was wondering if you can run CS2 in hardy and if so can someone point in to a nice walkthrough?
[07:12] <dubby> yeah from dapper to hardy
[07:12] <micahcowan> styles, why is it messed up? Did you edit it, or it somehow got corrupted?
[07:13] <Kira> Where is the list of Hardy repository mirrors again?
[07:13] <Flannel> !mirrors
[07:13] <dubby> its giving me a blacklist error saying ubuntu-desktop is marked for removal but is in removal blacklist
[07:13] <styles> micahcowan: idk it must have been corrupted...
[07:13] <Kira> thanks. :)
[07:13] <eshrickus> Rabbitbunny: could you give me an example of a crontab entry?
[07:13] <dubby> then ends with error :dist-upgrade failed an essential package would have been removed
[07:13] <styles> micahcowan: It seems to be missing the information about nvidia.
[07:13] <micahcowan> dubby... ubuntu-desktop?! That shouldn't be removed... You're sure you switched to the right sources in apt.sources?
[07:13] <shishirm1> hi i am used to programming in fedora
[07:13] <Rozza> thanks guys,
[07:14] <Flannel> dubby: which GUI are you using (if any?)
[07:14] <zvacet> nickolaus : look under wine subforum at the http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php
[07:14] <shishirm1> i tried compiling C program in ubuntu
[07:14] <dubby> none
[07:14] <dubby> terminal
[07:14] <shishirm1> it says stdio.h not found
[07:14] <micahcowan> styles, hm, I dunno, maybe try dpkg-reconfigure ing some likely packages? :\
[07:14] <shishirm1> please help
[07:14] <dubby> apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:14] <micahcowan> shishirm1, apt-get install build-essential
[07:14] <bthornton> anyone have experience with VMWare Workstation? I've currently got interface vmnet0 bridged to eth0, so shouldn't I see a "vmnet0" listed when I run 'ifconfig'?
[07:14] <styles> micahcowan: :(
[07:14] <shishirm1> micahcowan: is that a package?
[07:14] <Flannel> dubby: Alright, and did update-manager-core not work for you?
[07:15] <dubby> that is correct update-manager core did not work for me
[07:15] <dubby> i installed that package
[07:15] <styles> micahcowan: how do I get a list of packages
[07:15] <micahcowan> shishirm1, a meta-package, yeah. It pulls in various things that are generally required to compile things. Presumably you have gcc, but you're currently missing libc development headers. You may be missing other things as well; build-essential will get it in 1 go.
[07:15] <zvacet> nickolaus :   http://appdb.winehq.org/
[07:15] <Flannel> dubby: Alright, make sure you have ubuntu-standard, ubuntu-minimal, and the metapackage for your kernel installed. (linux-[something] usually)
[07:15] <dubby> I installed the package, ran do-release-upgrade -d
[07:16] <Ububegin> micahcowan : thanks man... initially , when i googled, i saw pple combining the find comand and such.. your solution is pretty sweet..
[07:16] <nickolaus> zvacet there is not a single entry about photoshop :(
[07:16] <micahcowan> styles, well, I was thinking, run that for the nvidia drivers and xorg-core (or whatever its called). I'm afraid I'm not sure how you should proceed :(
[07:16] <Lapinux> is it possible a system update would remove a program for some reason?
[07:16] <micahcowan> Ububegin, in some ways find might be easier to understand... but you'd want the -maxdepth option for it.
[07:17] <zvacet> nickolaus : did you look second link
[07:17] <micahcowan> Ububegin, FYI, .[!.]* expands to any filenames that start with a dot, then a non-dot, and then any number of possible extra characters.
[07:17] <dubby> ubuntu-standard 0.120,  ubuntu-minimal 0.120, and a couple nice linux images 2.6.15-51.66
[07:17] <Flannel> Lapinux: It is possible with apt, but there aren't many (if any) cases of those situations in the repos
[07:17] <nickolaus> zvacet haha no I missed that. thanks alot. Big help ;)
[07:17] <Lapinux> i did some updates here today and yesterday and i notice azureus is no longer installed
[07:18] <toyo|desk> anyone know how to see all the files that a particular package owns?
[07:18] <Flannel> dubby: Which kernels are you using?  linux-686? -server?
[07:18] <Kartagis> hi again
[07:18] <Lapinux> and i know i didnt uninstall it
[07:18] <Kartagis> can you help me guys? I see the desktop, nothing else
[07:18] <micahcowan> toyo|desk, dpkg -L package-name
[07:18] <Flannel> toyo|desk: dpkg -L package
[07:18] <toyo|desk> haha
[07:18] <dubby> yes im using the 686 server
[07:18] <toyo|desk> nice
[07:18] <toyo|desk> thanks guys
[07:18] <Flannel> dubby: the server kernel?
[07:18] <micahcowan> toyo|desk, dpkg -S /path/to/file for the reverse.
[07:18] <dubby> yes the server kernal
[07:18] <toyo|desk> micahcowan, alright I will have to keep that in mind
[07:18] <zvacet> nickolaus : you didn´t even try to type cs2 on the first link  http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=42492177
[07:19] <toyo|desk> I know the equivalent in rpm distros
[07:19] <dubby>  linux-image-server  <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:19] <Flannel> dubby: alright, make sure you have linux-server installed
[07:19] <toyo|desk> just not deb
[07:19] <toyo|desk> :P
[07:19] <dubby> linux-server  <IP_ADDRESS>  checkaroo
[07:19] <toyo|desk> rpm -f or rpm -l
[07:19] <Kartagis> hello?
[07:19] <micahcowan> I always have to man rpm for that stuff, toyo|desk :)
[07:19] <toyo|desk> ah
[07:19] <toyo|desk> I work with suse all day at work
[07:19] <toyo|desk> :P
[07:20] <Flannel> dubby: Alright, now change your sources.list from dapper to hardy, update, and dist-upgrade
[07:20] <styles> micahcowan: I'm just doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[07:20] <Lapinux> Flannel: well, when i went to reinstall it via synaptic i see it wanted to remove gcywebplugin and install some openjdk packages
[07:20] <Lapinux> maybe it had something to do with that
[07:20] <micahcowan> toyo|desk, FYI, the docs on those are in dpkg-query(1); dpkg-query -L works just as well, but dpkg is shorthand.
[07:20] <Flannel> Lapinux: reinstall what?
[07:20] <toyo|desk> ah alright
[07:21] <Lapinux> Flannel: azureus, the program that mysteriously got removed on me
[07:21] <micahcowan> styles, the thing is, I'm not at all convinced that will even redo a file like xorg.conf. But it's worth a shot, anyhoo.
[07:21] <Rabbitbunny> eshrickus: Search first, ask second.
[07:21] <styles> micahcowan: ok
[07:23] <Flannel> Lapinux: the only reason it'd get removed is if its depends weren't satisfied, java packaging is complicated with all the different versions, and its concievable that something got messed up
[07:23] <Lapinux> Flannel: must be....  ;)
[07:27] <shishirm1> micahcowan:thanks
[07:28] <zvacet> Lapinux : in synaptic find sun-java6-jre and install it  see if azureus work after that
[07:29] <dubby> man this update i dread... this specific server is our samba server that is in control of our entire domain practically all windows logins are through this server
[07:29] <tech0007> i did sudo apt-get upgrade. and i get this "following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linuxheaders-generic linuximage-generic linuxrestrictedmodules-generic.  what should i do?
[07:29] <Panik> if my cd rom says
[07:30] <Panik> if my cd rom says CD-RW/DVD +RW drive is it a dvd burner?
[07:30] <dubby> lol
[07:30] <zvacet> Panik : yes
[07:30] <Alan_M> tech, just do as it says, if it needs to upgrade again it will do so the next time.
[07:30] <Flannel> Panik: yes
[07:30] <tech0007> Panik: yes
[07:30] <adam_> hey, what's up?
[07:30] <Panik> lol
[07:30] <Panik> YEY
[07:30] <Panik> I HAVE A DVD BURNER
[07:30] <Panik> :D
[07:30] <FloodBot1> Panik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:30] <zvacet> Panik : good for you
[07:31] <Panik> lol
[07:31] <bocaneri> Can the ubuntu live/install DVD resize an NTFS partition nondestructively?
[07:31] <Flannel> bocaneri: yes, defrag first
[07:31] <tech0007> Alan_M: so i shouldn't do sudo apt-get distupgrade? should i wait til it's available?
[07:31] <Alan_M> tech0007, aparently you couldnt upgrade the kernel images right at that moment because they conflicted with other package you were downloading, somehow.
[07:31] <zvacet> bocaneri : defrag few times just in case
[07:31] <tech0007> Alan_M: ok thanks
[07:32] <ZRegis> Hello is the some one who can help me about limits.conf ?
[07:32] <bocaneri> Understood. Does this apply for... what was it? 6.06? I can't remember what I used six months ago!
[07:32] <Alan_M> tech0007, it did that to me a lot when i was testing hardy out, but thats a different story and im going OT, sorry Flannel :D
[07:32] <ZRegis> I want to limit the memory usage of one process
[07:32] <CHocolate> \ nick paingan88?
[07:33] <micahcowan> ZRegis, you can use ulimit to do that... it will crash if it uses more memory than that.
[07:33] <Flannel> Alan_M: What? tech0007, no, do a dist-upgrade
[07:33] <Alan_M> CHocolate, its /nick <new nickname>
[07:33] <Flannel> tech0007: "apt-get upgrade" won't install new depends, you need dist-upgrade for that.
[07:33] <micahcowan> ZRegis, or maybe I'm thinking of disk quotas for the crash.
[07:33] <ZRegis> micahcowan: but the is no man for ulimit !
[07:33] <Alan_M> Flannel, i didnt answer because i didnt know, i wasnt ignoring you tech0007, sorry man :)
[07:33] <tech0007> Flannel: so are you saying the kernel upgrade is stable?
[07:34] <Alan_M> tech0007, yeah
[07:34] <ZRegis> micahcowan: I'm not using many files
[07:34] <micahcowan> ZRegis, I was thinking of the disk space, memory will just fail to allocate. ...my system has a manpage for ulimit. But try "help ulimit" as well...
[07:34] <Flannel> tech0007: Assuming you don't have -proposed enabled, yes
[07:34] <Alan_M> tech0007, unless otherwise noted with Backports, kernel upgrades are stable.
[07:34] <ZRegis> micahcowan: It's a router program many memory and many sockets
[07:35] <micahcowan> ZRegis, the key is, though, you don't want to run ulimit directly in your shell: it will limit the memory for the shell you're running it in, and any other files you run.
[07:35] <tech0007> Flannel: let me check my sources.list
[07:35] <ZRegis> micahcowan: Ok  i get help ulimit
[07:35] <micahcowan> ZRegis, better to type "( ulimit -m SIZE; cmd; )"; the parens force the command to run under a separate shell.
[07:36] <micahcowan> ZRegis, I'm not sure if -m is what you want; it might be -v or -d
[07:36] <Alan_M> Flannel, im going to bed, so you can fully take over tech0007's case if you wish :D
[07:36] <Flannel> Alan_M: night
[07:36] <tech0007> Flannel: can you check my sources.list?
[07:36] <tech0007> Alan_M: thanks man
[07:36] <Flannel> tech0007: pastebin them, sure.
[07:37] <ZRegis> micahcowan: it's my problem whats the difference between this all type of memory
[07:37] <ZRegis> micahcowan: ;-)
[07:37] <micahcowan> ZRegis, tbh I'm a little fuzzy on some of that myself.
[07:37] <mohkohn> Can I use a Firefox Thunderbird Thawte X.509 certificate in Lotus Notes?
[07:37] <ZRegis> micahcowan: I've 512 Mo of RAM and I don't wont this process use more than 256 Mo
[07:38] <tech0007> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17123/
[07:38] <zvacet> see you later
[07:38] <ZRegis> micahcowan: No problem for swap
[07:38] <micahcowan> ZRegis, right. I think you want -m.
[07:39] <Flannel> tech0007: Yep, you're good.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:39] <tech0007> Flannel: thanks! brb
[07:39] <ZRegis> micahcowan: ulimit can be applyied on e running porcess
[07:39] <Flannel> tech0007: you'll always need to dist-upgrade for kernel updates, for the abovementioned reasons (new depends)
[07:39] <mohkohn> I am running Lotus Notes 8.5 on Ubuntu 8.10 LTS
[07:39] <micahcowan> ZRegis, how? There's no option for providing a pid.
[07:40] <micahcowan> It will apply to all processes spawned by the current shell instance. And the instance itself, I believe.
[07:41] <ZRegis> micahcowan: Well Well
[07:41] <ZRegis> micahcowan: my program is a daemon process
[07:41] <ZRegis> micahcowan: :-(
[07:41] <mohkohn> The other odd thing is that when I try to connect to the https thawte site I get an error:...
[07:42] <mohkohn> This document cannot be displayed unless you install the Personal Security Manager (PSM)
[07:42] <micahcowan> ZRegis, not a problem, so long as you invoke ulimit in the init.d script (or whatever) that spawns it. You may want to use -h, so ulimit sets the hard limit (so no process can set it back).
[07:42] <mohkohn> What is the PSM in ubuntu?
[07:42] <micahcowan> ZRegis, naturally, you'd need to restart the daemon
[07:43] <ZRegis> micahcowan: Ok so syntax is ulimit -m 512M /usr/bin/processname
[07:43] <ZRegis> micahcowan: Ok so syntax is ulimit -m 256M /usr/bin/processname
[07:43] <tech0007> Flannel: i have a bluescreen..its asking me what i want to do with the menu.lst?
[07:44] <Flannel> tech0007: What are your options?  Update, not update, manually resolve?
[07:44] <AmabassadortoPol> can anyone tell me a good front end for lm_sensors?
[07:44] <micahcowan> ZRegis, it doesn't take a process  name: it affects the current shell process and its children, there's no other options. And, I'm not sure it takes suffixes like "M"; my help output says it's increments of 1k. So, something like 256000 I think.
[07:44] <tech0007> Flannel: isntall package maintainers version, keep the local version currently installed (highlighted), show the differences b/w versions
[07:45] <Flannel> tech0007: what have you manually edited in your menu.lst?
[07:45] <micahcowan> Or $((256 * 1024))
[07:45] <tech0007> Flannel: tried booting from livecd of Fedora9 but it didnt work
[07:46] <tech0007> Flannel: i added F9 to the menu.lst
[07:46] <ZRegis> micahcowan: Thanks ==> in the same process ulimit -m 256000 than /usr/bin/processname ? Is that good ?
[07:46] <Flannel> tech0007: Where did you add it?  after the ### End debian automatic kernels list? or not?
[07:46] <AmabassadortoPol> can anyone tell me a good front end for lm_sensors?
[07:46] <micahcowan> ZRegis, yes, that should be good. Throw in -H for good measure, in ulimit.
[07:47] <tech0007> Flannel: before ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST...its rihgt below the 2.6.24-17 kernel
[07:47] <Flannel> tech0007: Right now, why don't you back up your menu.lst, then install the package maintainers version, and then we'll merge them manually later (this isn't a life or death thing)
[07:47] <Flannel> tech0007: just copy it to your home folder
[07:47] <mvinsc> anyone know how my laptop can find the on-board receiver?
[07:47] <ZRegis> micahcowan: Thanks a lot for your help :-)
[07:47] <micahcowan> ZRegis, yw
[07:48] <orgthingy> how can i boot ubuntu if i already have linux mint and windows in the same computer>
[07:48] <orgthingy> im stuck!
[07:48] <tech0007> Flannel: ok, but i dont want to keep F9 anymore
[07:48] <Flannel> tech0007: Ah, alright, go ahead and just do the package maintainers version then
[07:49] <mvinsc> orgthingy, LiveCD?
[07:49] <micahcowan> ZRegis, hang on
[07:49] <Kira> Use of Webmin on Ubuntu is discouraged and eBox should be used intead, right?
[07:49] <_eMaX_> hi
[07:49] <Flannel> Mhdivyan: Triple boot is no big deal
[07:49] <Mhdivyan> mvinsc: yes
[07:49] <_eMaX_> is it possible to run gksu without gnome-keyring?
[07:49] <Mhdivyan> im having problems with it xD
[07:49] <Bob24> hello
[07:50] <Mhdivyan> it doesnt boot!
[07:50] <olanuxer> hai
[07:50] <ZRegis> micahcowan: Ok
[07:50] <micahcowan> ZRegis, hm, it doesn't seem to work for me when I give -H, but does without.
[07:50] <mvinsc> Mhdivyan: did you check for defects?
[07:50] <Banditul> why if now i type host domain i see different things from the old host command ?
[07:50] <tech0007> Flannel: done..i only see -17 and -18 in the menu.lst. guess i should keep -17 for a while til my next reboot?
[07:50] <Mhdivyan> defects?
[07:51] <micahcowan> ZRegis, doesn't matter, looks like it sets the hard limit by default.
[07:51] <ZRegis> micahcowan: 8-)
[07:51] <Bob24> on ubuntu how can you share for example the /var/lib/mythtv/recordings directory on ftp? im using pure ftp.
[07:51] <Flannel> tech0007: It's usually a good idea to keep an old kernel around (even after the first reboot), since you never know when you'll run into a regression
[07:51] <sinyoki> hi...
[07:52] <tech0007> Flannel: ok. tnx a lot.
[07:52] <Flannel> tech0007: and it's not always apparent after a few hours of usage.  I always keep at least two kernels (partially due to laziness).  A few extra kernels don't hurt (well, unless you're really strapped for disk space)
[07:53] <Banditul> can someone help me with this: http://pastebin.com/d42ffabd0 ...it's about host command
[07:54] <allan> bash/readline has a problem with multi-byte characters even though I have set LC_CTYPE to en_US.UTF-8
[07:54] <allan> is there something else I need to set?
[07:54] <allan> if I run ‘locale’ in bash, I get UTF-8 for all the values
[07:54] <tech0007> Flannel: one last question, u think the devs will include FF3 final and OOO3 final at some later time in hardy?
[07:54] <tech0007> Flannel: or will they wait til Intrepid
[07:54] <micahcowan> allan, what terminal are you using, gnome-terminal?
[07:54] <Flannel> tech0007: FF3 will be, no idea about OOo.
[07:55] <Flannel> tech0007: FF3, assumming its released in the next couple of weeks, should be in time for 8.04.1
[07:55] <tech0007> Flannel: hmmm...hardy will be the best OS ever (for me) if they can do that...
[07:56] <_eMaX_> is it possible to run gksu without gnome-keyring?
[07:56] <allan> micahcowan: Terminal.app on OS X
[07:56]  * Thefoot note to self never use kleansweep and let it remove everything as I will have to reinstall everything yet again
[07:56] <allan> i.e. I ssh into the ubuntu machine
[07:57] <_eMaX_> if I want to install gksu using apt-get it asks me to install gnome-keyring. OTOH, gnome-keyring makes evolution largely unusable, so I don#t want to use gnome-keyring as I don't know how to tell evolution not to use gnome-keyring
[07:57] <micahcowan> allan, hm... when you ssh, what's the value of $TERM?
[07:57] <Janice8954> G'Day mates
[07:57] <allan> xterm
[07:57] <Janice8954> I cant seem to get JACK to cooperate
[07:57] <Janice8954> I am trying to run DJPlay. Everything seems to run okay, but NO SOUND!!!
[07:58] <micahcowan> allan, what's an example of the problem you encounter?
[07:58] <Mhdivyan> how can i change BIOS setup UTILITY ?
[07:59] <Flannel> _eMaX_: You can't install gksu without gnome-keyring, no.  You could use kdesu instead
[07:59] <Janice8954> Any ideas?