[16:33] <daznis666> this trol made my day :D
[16:34] <iptable> ClickClickNext, if you have no internet, how are you on this chat btw?
[16:34] <Pici> People often have other computers...
[16:34] <iptable> daznis666, he could be using IRC from phone or tablet...
[16:34] <somsip> zyuiop: sed 's/\\.*/ USELESS/g' emaillist | cut -d"@" -f2
[16:35] <iptable> people often do that
[16:35] <Hawkerz> Pici, is it really necessary to strictly enforce rules about offtopic conversation over a couple of lines exchanged in a room that's been mostly dead?
[16:35] <tgm4883> I'm going to go out on a limb and say that computer companies had this crazy idea to make a profit and sell more than 1 computer
[16:35] <ClickClickNext> Using another computer
[16:35] <tgm4883> Hawkerz: that wasn't enforcement, that was a reminder
[16:35] <iptable> ClickClickNext, is your WiFi connected on that ubuntu box?
[16:35] <ClickClickNext> When I connect ethernet, it states that it is connected.  However, the preinstalled firefox cannot get to the internet
[16:35] <daznis666> iptable, holly, i forgot you can access the net from several devices...
[16:36] <ClickClickNext> I have modem & a router, I am running ethernet from the router to the machine but still cannot access the web
[16:37] <daznis666> can you connect to the router from firefox? ClickClickNext
[16:37] <ClickClickNext> I'll check
[16:38] <daznis666> ClickClickNext,  if you can connect to the router via firefox, problem isn't on ubuntu it's mostly elsewhere isp... maybe
[16:40] <iptable> ClickClickNext, 1. connect via WiFi. 2. execute ifconfig wlan0, 3. check if it displays an IP, like <IP_ADDRESS> or similar. 4. if so, ping <IP_ADDRESS>. see if that works. 5. retry tests with cable if any tests failed. 6. report back to us.
[16:41] <daznis666> iptable, everyone has own methods, right? :)
[16:41] <ClickClickNext> Okay
[16:42] <daznis666> Anyone using chrome on ubuntu 14.04 ? it started to freeze my machine after like 6hours of use. What could it be
[16:43] <iptable> daznis666, well, I like methodical troubleshooting by removing one step at a time form the equation until the troubleshooting circle is so small I can troubleshoot it
[16:44] <daznis666> iptable, doing the same, just without a terminal :))
[16:44] <iptable> I don't trust GUI enough
[16:44] <Hawkerz> doesn't chrome have an error logging internal url?
[16:44] <daznis666> it doesn't show an error
[16:44] <Hawkerz> and yeah, you can launch it from the command line with xtreme verbosity and pipe stderr somewhere useful
[16:45] <Hawkerz> daznis666, are your video drivers up to date and installed correctly? do you have hardware acceleration turned on in chrome?
[16:45] <daznis666> i use nvidia - 331
[16:45] <daznis666> ill check
[16:45] <iptable> me too
[16:45] <gladioacuto> could someone tell me what applications do those funny buttons on unity-2d-panel, like power button battery status, link to? I found out that the wifi button links to nm-applet which now i can use calling in standalone mode, i would like to do the same with the other two
[16:45] <iptable> :)
[16:46] <daznis666> Hawkerz, should i turn of hardware acceleration?
[16:46] <Hawkerz> daznis666, I was going to suggest turning it on :p
[16:46] <daznis666> it's on
[16:46] <Hawkerz> I use chrome, and chrome beta, and both work fine
[16:47] <Hawkerz> you sure it's not a tab you're leaving open that's crashing it
[16:47] <Hawkerz> could be you didn't install flashplayer correctly or something, idk
[16:48] <Ineedhelp> ok so i need help mith getting a gui onto my server. i typed in  sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop and i got :no file or such directory. so i did update and it said unable to mkdir /var/lib/sudo/name of server: no such files, so i did upgrade and same thing happens. how the hell do i get an gui onto this thing. do i need to put it onto a flash drive first?
[16:48] <erol007> hi leut
[16:48] <daznis666> Hawkerz, maybe it's a tab, but it crashed on gmail.com and youtube.com
[16:48] <ClickClickNext> upon executing "ifconfig wlan0" it states device not found.  Is that suggesting this machine does not have a wireless adapter?
[16:48] <alaba> Hi, little question.  She has a dual core cpu with 64bit architecture, but she has only 2GB RAM and I guess the bottleneck is the hard disk. Is it better to run 32Bit Ubuntu or 64 bit? On the one hand, 64 bit has bigger words and more instructions (AFAIK), but 32bit has smaller binaries. What version (32 bit or 64 bit?)is proba
[16:49] <iptable> ClickClickNext, either that OR your WiFi adapter is not compatible
[16:49] <daznis666> alaba, 64bit anyway
[16:49] <Hawkerz> alaba, yeah, 64bit
[16:49] <Hawkerz> those specs are fine
[16:49] <Ineedhelp> ok so i need help mith getting a gui onto my server. i typed in  sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop and i got :no file or such directory. so i did update and it said unable to mkdir /var/lib/sudo/name of server: no such files, so i did upgrade and same thing happens. how the hell do i get an gui onto this thing. do i need to put it onto a flash drive first?
[16:50] <iptable> ClickClickNext, run lspci and lsusb and see if it shows something "wifi-like" ;)
[16:50] <daznis666> alaba, 64 or 32 has nothing to do with ram capacy
[16:50] <Hawkerz> I ran ubuntu (barely) on a tiny netbook with 1gb ram and an atom processor
[16:50] <Hawkerz> (I would not recommend that)
[16:50] <Hawkerz> daznis666, crashed as in it gives you taht 'this page is not responding' thing?
[16:50] <Hawkerz> or crashed as in, became unresonsive
[16:50] <Hawkerz> ^ spell that correctly
[16:50] <rubiksmomo> I installed Ubuntu 3 times today. Every time I tried to load it up it kept complaining "cryptsetup failed, bad passphrase or options". What could cause it?
[16:50] <Ineedhelp> i dont mean to sound like a moron, just creating a jinzora music server for a school project.
[16:50] <iptable> rubiksmomo, trying to do encryption?
[16:51] <daznis666> Hawkerz, loading, usually it loads very fast, but after alot of browsing chrome gets tired and freezes, it does not crash.
[16:51] <rubiksmomo> iptable: Yeah
[16:51] <iptable> rubiksmomo, set a simple password and try again. one that doesn't have special shars
[16:51] <alaba> i know, but 64bit can address more and due to not having more than 4gb, 64bit has no advantages
[16:51] <somsip> iptable: there is no real need to put a gui on a server. What do you need it for?
[16:51] <alaba> that was my consideration
[16:51] <iptable> rubiksmomo, my guess it that the keyboard setup is different during install than once installed
[16:51] <iptable> somsip, I never used a GUI on a server... wrong person ;)
[16:51] <daznis666> alaba, add like 4gb swap space to be good :)
[16:52] <rubiksmomo> iptable: I guess I have to go install it 4th time...
[16:52] <alaba> daznis666 well, I'd like to minimize hard disk access
[16:52] <Hawkerz> daznis666, do you scroll with a mousewheel?
[16:52] <somsip> iptable: oops. Meant for Ineedhelp
[16:53] <daznis666> Hawkerz, yep
[16:53] <somsip> Ineedhelp: so why do you need a gui on a server?
[16:53] <Ineedhelp> i would much rather work in command line then gui (im a networker) but theres no command book and the commands dont make anysence to my tiny cisco brain.
[16:53] <Hawkerz> daznis666, does the page lag while scrolling?
[16:53] <Hawkerz> like, takes a second to catch up?
[16:53] <iptable> Ineedhelp, learn it?
[16:53] <iptable> Ineedhelp, for a server, most things cannot be done from a GUI
[16:54] <daznis666> alaba, it wont use all 4gb , but if it has enough space it will choke to death.
[16:54] <daznis666> Hawkerz, nop
[16:54] <ClickClickNext> Okay
[16:54] <iptable> Ineedhelp, so it will not help you. linux server software is a command-line-configuration software.
[16:54] <upgrader> anyone know about migrating packages from 32-bit 14.04 to 64-bit 14.04, is there a reason "sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade" would not work properly?
[16:54] <Hawkerz> hmmk, that's really weird.  Do you use adblock, daznis666
[16:54] <daznis666> Hawkerz, ye, everyone does.
[16:54] <iptable> upgrader, you are about 6 motnhs late. 10.04 is not supported and packages no longer available for the GUI
[16:54] <gladioacuto> my sound in 12.04 LTS doesn't work anymore, what's going on? At the startup lightdm reproduces the standard sound...in my fluxbox session now no sound are played
[16:55] <Hawkerz> hum, that's really odd then
[16:55] <daznis666> iptable, it's 14.04
[16:55] <Hawkerz> what version of chrome?
[16:55] <somsip> upgrader: you have 32 bit installed and you want to upgrade to 64 bit? Nooooo...
[16:55] <iptable> daznis666, I know
[16:55] <upgrader> iptable: 14.04 system to 14.04 system
[16:55] <daznis666> Hawkerz, Version 38.0.2125.104 (64-bit)
[16:55] <iptable> oh
[16:55] <Hawkerz> Version 37.0.2062.120 (64-bit)
[16:55] <iptable> daznis666, upgrader sorry. eye-number-reading-issue
[16:56] <Hawkerz> this is a new issue daznis666?
[16:56] <Ineedhelp> all i need is to set up a LAMP webserver, which for me is much easier using gui, and put jinzora  on. but i keep hitting tiny roadblocks that i have to search for hours to find a solution too. so id be much easier for me to have a gui. and the damned thing just ont download
[16:56] <daznis666> Hawkerz, it's from chrome stable ppa from google
[16:56] <upgrader> somsip: so i can't take package list from 32-bit system and ask 64-bit system to install those same packages?
[16:56] <iptable> upgrader, I wasn't aware you can migrate to 64 bit from 32 bit. that's libc and kernel and all package and library upgrades. I would expect it to break during upgrade
[16:56] <Hawkerz> daznis666, yeah, but were you using chrome before you updated to this version?
[16:56] <alaba> daznis666 it's not about the 4GB, it's about having a fluent system that does not need to access the harddrive the whole time. so, you recommend 64bit anyway?
[16:56] <Hawkerz> it's possible that the upgrade breaks things
[16:56] <daznis666> alaba,  yea
[16:57] <Hawkerz> alaba, 64 bit doesn't access the haddrive anymore than 32 bit would
[16:57] <Ineedhelp> all the videos and how to's n jinzora use a gui. there are none that  can find using a command line interface
[16:57] <somsip> upgrader: that's not what you implied in the last question. Upgrading from 32 to 64 is theoretically possible but a practical nightmare (according to the one source I found who tried to document doing it)
[16:57] <upgrader> it appears to me that dselect-upgrade isn't doing its job, but maybe you're suggesting that's because 64-bit system won't allow certain packages..
[16:57] <iptable> Ineedhelp, for server software? like what?
[16:57] <Hawkerz> upgrader, so you're not trying to upgrade from 32bit 10.04 to 64bit 14.04?
[16:57] <iptable> upgrader, that's just one of the issues
[16:57] <alaba> hawkerz i know, but binaries are bigger if they are compiled for 64bit and i have only 2gb ram.
[16:58] <Hawkerz> or alaba
[16:58] <Hawkerz> whatever, you're all confusing me
[16:58] <daznis666> Hawkerz, well i installed sigil an ebook format tool and then ubuntu sdk dev crap http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa/ubuntu and updated the software maybe something is bad in there, before there was no freeze
[16:58] <iptable> alaba, with 2GB RAM, use xubuntu/linux mint or similar and don't use chrome and you will be fine
[16:58] <Ineedhelp> its a Jinzora Music program put into a web server setup using LAMP.
[16:58] <upgrader> somsip: machine2 has 64-bit installed, machine1 i use every day, but it is 32-bit 14.04. how can i make machine2 look like machine1?
[16:58] <iptable> upgrader, reinstall?
[16:58] <alaba> iptable: mint sucks
[16:58] <Hawkerz> 2gb of RAM is still plenty to run ubuntu, but yeah, performance will be better with one of the lighter versions
[16:59] <iptable> alaba, personal opinion. I'm guessing you haven't tried it for years...
[16:59] <somsip> upgrader: ah - I see now. I'd reinstall too.
[16:59] <iptable> alaba, I use mint. use xubuntu then or buy more RAM
[16:59] <Hawkerz> daznis666, is it possible that chrome updated when you installed all that?
[16:59] <daznis666> Hawkerz, doubt it
[16:59] <Snaps> I did a release upgrade to utopic but it fails to install the linux-image-3.16.0-23-generic package due to the initrd being missing. Ive tried everything I can come up with to no avail: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8617162/    Any Ideas?
[17:00] <daznis666> alaba, use minimal cd and take all the lightweight stuff custom
[17:00] <Hawkerz> hmmk, would be a weird issue anyawy.  I don't know how a "reinstall" will help. The 64-bit is a "fresh install" off live USB and is waiting to be populated with machine1's properties, packages, files, /home folder, etc.
[17:00] <daznis666> Hawkerz, is there a way to remove those upgrades, like downgrade?
[17:00] <somsip> alaba: I put minimal install with openbox on a 500MB RAM 701 eeepc and it was fine for simple stuff.
[17:00] <alaba> iptable: I installed it several friends and everytime it got a corrupted database after a few months...
[17:01] <Hawkerz> daznis666, well i don't actually think it was an upgrade issue because the beta worked fine
[17:01] <iptable> Snaps, utopic is not supported as it's still beta
[17:01] <alaba> i want default install because it's for a friend that knows _nothing_ about computers^^
[17:01] <Ineedhelp> all i need the gui for is initial setup and then i can run and configure everything else remotely. but without this gui  im a bag of pupies thats been thrown into a river.
[17:01] <daznis666> Hawkerz, upgrade from a third party source
[17:01] <somsip> upgrader: it seems like you want to do this in one clean command. I'd suggest installing what packages you need sort-of as you need them
[17:01] <iptable> upgrader, install the packages manually and copy the configs over
[17:01] <Snaps> iptable: for two more days, yeah, so this might be a good thing to find prior to that if it potentially affects more people than me.
[17:02] <iptable> Snaps, kernel packages are still being updated etc
[17:02] <Hawkerz> daznis666, upgrades? you can set package versions, I don't think apt has 'downgrade', which is somewhat silly
[17:02] <iptable> Snaps, #ubuntu+1 is for 14.10
[17:02] <Snaps> iptable: okay, thanks!
[17:02] <somsip> Hawkerz: you can 'downgrade' to other candidates, but they tend to be limited in what is available
[17:02] <alaba> are there any hybrid images of ubuntu?
[17:03] <somsip> alaba: define hybrid?
[17:03] <Hawkerz> daznis666, but if you suspect the issue came from the ubuntu dev ppa, you can disable it and remove new packages it installed, and downgrade ones it upgraded
[17:03] <daznis666> Hawkerz, how?
[17:03] <somsip> !ppa-purge | daznis666
[17:03]  * iptable goes to enjoy an evening
[17:03] <Hawkerz> ^ what the bot said
[17:03] <alaba> well, an image containing 32bit and 64 bit. I don't want to burn 2 dvd's
[17:03] <somsip> alaba: no
[17:04] <daznis666> Hawkerz, i can do it with gui, why would i do it with terminal ? :D
[17:04] <Hawkerz> daznis666, you can't
[17:04] <Hawkerz> well
[17:04] <Hawkerz> you can
[17:04] <Hawkerz> but it's really tedious
[17:04] <upgrader> somsip, iptable: if i restore /home folder now on machine2, do packages one at a time on machine2 as needed, will they overwrite /home settings? meaning, i have skype, or backintime, or r-base packages with files in /home/.skype, will install of skype later write on tome of /home/.skype and lose me my personalized settings and files?
[17:05] <Hawkerz> ppa-purge will go through the ppa in question, see what is installed from there on your local machine, completely remove it and revert to the version in the repositories, and disable the ppa you are purging
[17:05] <upgrader> write on *top of*
[17:05] <Hawkerz> it's damn useful, I wouldn't recommend doing it by hand
[17:05] <daznis666> Hawkerz, but this makes no sense, if they upgrades were bad, it should lag and freeze instantly, but it does not
[17:05] <Hawkerz> I mean, I don't know what that ppa provides, it could easly overwrite some library and replace it with one that has a memory leak
[17:06] <Hawkerz> who knows
[17:06] <somsip> upgrader: sensible installers should not overwrite existing conf files without checking what you want to do with them
[17:06] <Hawkerz> it should take like 4 seconds to remove it, then you can see if that fixes, if so, problem solved
[17:06] <Hawkerz> if not, well, now you know how to purge ppa's properly
[17:06] <daznis666> ok
[17:06] <somsip> upgrader: but if they do, you always have the original on machine1
[17:07] <Hawkerz> purging ppa's is a skill you will want to have if you ever do a release upgrade
[17:07] <daznis666> Hawkerz, i want to be a linux guru
[17:08] <upgrader> somsip, iptable, hawkerz: many thanks. i will have to consider if this "packages as needed" approach makes migration worth it, but i'm tempted by 64-bit plus double RAM in machine2 as a better everyday use machine. thanks again! =)
[17:09] <Hawkerz> daznis666, if you can purge ppa's you're a guru
[17:09] <somsip> upgrader: np. When I reinstalled for 14.04 I knew what main packages I wanted, but missed loads. I found them as I needed to use them. It wasn't a big deal.
[17:09] <Hawkerz> i will get you a tshirt made to reflect this occasion.
[17:09] <daznis666> Hawkerz, ppa purging is easy as pie :D
[17:10] <Hawkerz> compared with the process if you had built all of that from source yourself? yes.
[17:11] <daznis666> Hawkerz, i let others build
[17:11] <daznis666> i believe in peoplez skillz
[17:11] <klaas_> hey, i have a question....
[17:11] <klaas_> i have a laptop with linux mint on it....
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> !mint | klaas_
[17:12] <richac> ubottu: which derivatives are supported?
[17:12] <richac> lol
[17:12] <somsip> !flavors | richac
[17:12] <klaas_> oh, i thought i can also come here, because mint is based on ubuntu?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> klaas_: none of the "ubuntu based" distributions are supported by the Ubuntu community. It has it's own community and support
[17:13] <daznis666> Hawkerz, Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: sunab sigil-git, hm, it worked on the first one, but it does not work on the second one ppa. O_o
[17:13] <Hawkerz> daznis666, what was the ppa called?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> klaas_: similarly, ubuntu is based on debian, but if you ask for Ubuntu support in #debian you will be pointed here
[17:13] <daznis666> Hawkerz, ppa:sunab/sigil-git
[17:13] <Tecan> gravity wars in the repository's is kinda problematic
[17:14] <Hawkerz> ah, daznis666: sudo ppa-purge ppa:sunab/sigil-git
[17:14] <daznis666> Hawkerz, i told you im a linux guru, it didn't work
[17:14] <Hawkerz> run sudo apt-get update
[17:14] <Hawkerz> then do it
[17:15] <rubiksmomo> Finally, after 4 installs I have a working OS. Maybe there should be a warning when choosing encryption key "you may not be able to load Ubuntu if you use special characters in the key"...
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> daznis666: linux guru huh....
[17:15] <daznis666> ActionParsnip, wannabe :D
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> daznis666: dont we all :)
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> rubiksmomo: or just avoid encryption.....
[17:16] <Hawkerz> Linux still makes me feel like an idiot all the time, when I encounter bizarre issues and obsessively try to correct them
[17:16] <rubiksmomo> ActionParsnip: I kinda expected it to work like other encryption systems
[17:16] <ryanarchy> regarding upgrading, if I move from 13.04, it will not remove my current kernel, correct?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> rubiksmomo: not something I use personally
[17:17] <Hawkerz> ryanarchy, it will replace your kernel with the one in the 14.04 repos, I would hope
[17:17] <rubiksmomo> I like privacy
[17:17] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hawkerz, don't worry too much, Linux is probably idiotic in a few respects too
[17:17] <Hawkerz> also it will replace a ton of your system with 14.04 compatible stuff which would then have to be downgraded to use the kernel you have now, ryanarchy
[17:18] <daznis666> Hawkerz, ok im good, i remember the time when i had to fix one issue when i've plugged out the DC from a netbook it went into suspend mode...
[17:18] <tgm4883> rubiksmomo: is there a bug report for that?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> rubiksmomo: i have it, my login pasword keeps people out. Privacy achieved
[17:18] <rubiksmomo> tgm4883: I haven't found
[17:18] <ryanarchy> Hawkerz, that's potentially annoying considering I'm running Xen on the machine I want to upgrade
[17:18] <Hawkerz> daznis666, I spent 12 hours with a team of engineers trying to figure out why a server wouldn't connect to the network -- none of us thought to check that the ethernet cable was actually plugged into the switch
[17:18] <tgm4883> rubiksmomo: you should file one then. I could attempt to reproduce the issue if you want
[17:19] <rubiksmomo> ActionParsnip: Just load up another OS and read all your files
[17:19] <daznis666> Hawkerz, hahahahahahhahaa :DDDD
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> rubiksmomo: yes but you have to get to my kit first
[17:19] <richac> according to tripwire,  almost every important file on my pc has been modified since the 18th and I can't figure out why
[17:19] <rubiksmomo> tgm4883: OK, I'll file one
[17:19] <rubiksmomo> ActionParsnip: kit?
[17:19] <daznis666> Hawkerz, i've made an ebook yesterday and wrote bussiness on the cover..... :D gimp does not have spelling.... :D
[17:19] <Ineedhelp> ok so apparently, when i go to boot options and press ubuntu nothing happens. so i have to boot into the first  hard drive, i have 3 drives that are raided together using ubuntu's raid software. first drive has a 16gb parition the othe two have a 8gb partition. and i cant write to any of the harddrives i boot into. What could be the problem and why cant i boot into ubuntu.
[17:20] <rubiksmomo> ActionParsnip: physical access?
[17:20] <richac> 2137 binaries modified,  4 tripwire binaries lol,  22638 libraries, 411 root file-system executables, 6 tripwire data files,  143 system boot changes,  2051 root libraries,  14485 system boot files,  2904 config files,  189 boot scripts,  2 security control fiels,  115 root config files,
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> rubiksmomo: the physical hardware
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> rubiksmomo: yes
[17:20] <Hawkerz> no surprise, it's probably intended to be that way so artists don't feel judged when they intentionally misspell things for artistic value
[17:20] <richac> i looked at apt and dpkg history,  I don't know what could have affected this
[17:20] <daznis666> Hawkerz, maybe they are tired and playing it COOL
[17:21] <jhutchins> richac: Did you do a software udate?
[17:21] <daznis666> When is the 14.10 comming out?
[17:21] <rubiksmomo> ActionParsnip: True, but you never knows who'll get to it some day :)
[17:21] <richac> jhutchins: i'm looking at the apt and dpkg history,  but i'm not sure if any of these updates would affect all those files?
[17:21] <somsip> daznis666: due on 23rd
[17:21] <Ineedhelp> ok so apparently, when i go to boot options and press ubuntu nothing happens. so i have to boot into the first  hard drive, i have 3 drives that are raided together using ubuntu's raid software. first drive has a 16gb parition the othe two have a 8gb partition. and i cant write to any of the harddrives i boot into. What could be the problem and why cant i boot into ubuntu
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> rubiksmomo: im careful with my stuff. I'm not some clown shoes who doesnt look after my gear
[17:21] <daznis666> somsip, thx cool 3 days to go.
[17:22] <tgm4883> richac: we are even less sure, since we don't know the contents of either of those files
[17:22] <richac> tgm4883: would you mind if I pastebin?
[17:22] <jhutchins> richac: Either you trust tripwire, and accept that something altered your system, or you don't, in which case why run it?
[17:22] <tgm4883> richac: you can, I don't guarentee I can help you but that would be one of the first steps to getting help
[17:23] <Ineedhelp> ok so apparently, when i go to boot options and press ubuntu nothing happens. so i have to boot into the first  hard drive, i have 3 drives that are raided together using ubuntu's raid software. first drive has a 16gb parition the othe two have a 8gb partition. and i cant write to any of the harddrives i boot into. What could be the problem and why cant i boot into ubuntu
[17:23] <tgm4883> jhutchins: I think it's, he trusts tripwire that something modified his system, and he is trying to figure out if it's because of updates or if his system is compromised
[17:23] <tgm4883> jhutchins: which IMHO sounds like a pretty reasonable stance
[17:23] <daznis666> Ineedhelp, you have no grub loader in the master record O_o
[17:24] <daznis666> Ineedhelp, or do you ? :)
[17:24] <richac> here is dpkg  http://pastebin.com/jxJQzE9b
[17:25] <richac> here is apt http://pastebin.com/qXDiaLuN
[17:25] <somsip> richac: looks like someone installed a GUI...
[17:25] <Ineedhelp> daznis666, i think i do but just to make sure how would i chenk to see if i did? sorry i dont know much on ubuntu servers, learning with this one
[17:25] <richac> somsip: which gui is that?
[17:26] <somsip> richac: I just see a lot of gnome libs and icons.
[17:26] <daznis666> Ineedhelp, if you cant access the terminal i don't know how you can check it O_o
[17:26] <somsip> richac: so did the sysadmin install all of this stuff or not?
[17:27] <richac> hmm  i'm using kde
[17:27] <richac> lemme search that file
[17:27] <Ineedhelp> daznis666, well see i can access the terminal but i cant write to the disks and to be able to even access terminal i have to boot into one of the three hard disks.
[17:28] <somsip> richac: when etherape and nmap are installed at the same time, it looks like someone is up for some pen testing, malicious or not
[17:28] <mistawright> hi guys i have an issue with logrotate and rsyslog. whenever logrotate roates logs it doesnt forward the logs I had it forwarding through udp initially. I have to restart rsyslog in order for it to send again.
[17:28] <mistawright> does anyone know how to fix this?
[17:28] <daznis666> Ineedhelp, i have no idea, if you can't write you need sudo  - admin access
[17:28] <richac> somsip: i installed those
[17:29] <richac> ya i was checking one of the devices on my lan
[17:29] <somsip> richac: so...your concern is exactly what? To make sure each file reported by tripwire is one related to the ton of software you installed? Bit tricky...
[17:29] <vitimiti> Hi
[17:30] <sl1rpy> where is the xorg.conf for ubuntu 14.04?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> sl1rpy: one doesn't ship by default. It will need to be in /etc/X11 as normal
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> sl1rpy: if one is present it will be used
[17:30] <richac> there has to be one update,  that can affect all the files man.    a "ton" of updates shouldn't even do that
[17:30] <somsip> richac: you probably need to rebuild your tripwire DB (or run whatever is usually run regularly) after you install any packages that might cause false positives. Then you know when it's you and when it's not
[17:30] <richac> somsip: it runs everyday
[17:31] <rubiksmomo> Maybe this is the bug I'm having with 14.04.1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1362333
[17:31] <richac> last i updated was right before these updates
[17:31] <richac> so i'm sorry but nmap and etherape,  are not going to affect every binary on my system,  something else must of
[17:31] <somsip> richac: so your routine whould be to update right after you do updates too. So you know all changes you have made. Not sure how you would backtrack to confirm the changes now
[17:31] <somsip> *should be
[17:32] <richac> somsip: yes i thought I was apparenlty not
[17:32] <richac> I guess I should just reformat again :(
[17:32] <somsip> richac: or look for other evidence of an intrusion. Up to you like
[17:33] <richac> somsip: so the answer is you have no idea which of those packages could affect all the binaries,   so I will reformat
[17:33] <tgm4883> richac: you could also inspect all of the packages you installed
[17:33] <richac> my linux bites the dust again.....
[17:33] <tgm4883> richac: whoa, I wouldn't blame this on Linux
[17:33] <Ineedhelp> daznis666, i am admin and i have sudo. it still wont let me write to the disks. heres my problem, i linked all 3 drives to ubuntu raid software(raid 5 parity)  and i cant actually access the ubuntu boot option( might be a fake option might not) so i think my solution is to acces that ubuntu boot option, but shit aint doin its job.
[17:33] <richac> well i mean i was going to do an apt-file search or somethign,  or policy
[17:34] <richac> tgm4883: linux is very insecure
[17:34] <tgm4883> richac: oh really
[17:34] <richac> lol yes
[17:34] <tgm4883> richac: and you are running it because...?
[17:34] <richac> i've been at this for like 4 weeks now,   its terrible
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> richac: its only as secure as you make it.  It's too insecure. Can you imagine that some people think you can run it as a web server?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: what do you thikn wikipedia use....?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: *think
[17:42] <richac> tgm4883: linux webservers are under 50% now,  down from 70% pre 2012
[17:42] <Ineedhelp> ActionParsnip, i used literallly to make sure he meant that i wiped everything ( i know i also said i wiped everything) but that was an afterthought and forgot to remove literally, just a grammatical error.
[17:42] <richac> tgm4883: all linux is leading is on phones,  with android,  and ios will pass them soon.
[17:42] <skyfall> can you tell me how to stop
[17:42] <skyfall> apt-get ?
[17:42] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip: windows server 2012 datacenter edition with IIS 8 of course
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Ineedhelp: "literally" doesn't mean "i wiped everything"
[17:42] <tgm4883> richac: any actual data to back that up
[17:42] <skyfall> anybody
[17:42] <skyfall>  ?
[17:43] <daznis666> skyfall, restart your pc
[17:43] <daznis666> easiest way
[17:43] <daznis666> then sudo apt-get install quake
[17:43] <daznis666> then sudo apt-get install quake- y
[17:43] <daznis666> then sudo apt-get install quake -y
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> tmghow very wrong you are: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:FAQ/Technical#What_software_is_used_to_run_Wikipedia.3F
[17:44] <skyfall> thanks
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: guess what OS Spotify uses?
[17:44] <daznis666> ActionParsnip, linux?
[17:44] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip: Windows NT
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> daznis666: Debian :)
[17:44] <daznis666> ActionParsnip, nailed it
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: gues what servers Pixar use?
[17:45] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip: I think you should redirect all of your responses to richac, and that I should just start ending mine with /s
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: basically, you dont know what you are talking about and you are prodding and poking your OS and breaking it, then saying it's poor
[17:45] <daznis666> anybody here know how to code? :)
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> daznis666: a few
[17:45] <Ineedhelp> ActionParsnip. first off dont know why we are being a child about a word i said but i will entertain you. "i reset the server"  means(implies) that i just turned it on and off while "i literally reset" implies a hard reset meaning to wipe everything from the drives. we use this reset hard reset literally reset lingo in my team of networkers. just something i say
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> skyfall: if it's no good after a reboot try this:
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt | skyfall
[17:46] <daznis666> ActionParsnip, i want to learn to code, but it's damn hard to start because everything is so confusing  - for a start i would like to make a d2 bot :) don't know where to start :)
[17:46] <tgm4883> ActionParsnip: lol, no, I know exactly what I'm doing. You need to direct that at richac
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Ineedhelp: then say hard reset. I've never heard "literally reset". You either reset it or ou didn't.
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> tgm4883: sorry
[17:48] <Ineedhelp> actionparsnip, you seem like a smart man you mind helping me out with this problem of mine?
[17:48] <pzn> which is the ubuntu package that keeps the gpg-keys of official repositories?
[17:53] <daznis666> chat went dead
[17:54] <daznis666> i remember chatting was popular like 5 years ago, we had chat.lt, now it's just ubuntu support :(
[17:55] <k1l> daznis666: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat. we try to keep this channel clear for technical support only :)
[17:55] <daznis666> k1l
[17:55] <daznis666> ok
[17:59] <k1l> pzn: ubuntu-keyring is the package for the gpg keys of the repos
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Ineedhelp: wassup?
[18:00] <pzn> k1l, thanks! worked as expected.
[18:03] <tozen> hi all! is it possible to get back to default kernel settings in ubi 14.04? so i've installed kernel from mineline miself as result i've lost kernel autoupdate option. can i get it back witout reinstall? thx. sorry 4 my eng.
[18:03] <tozen> *without
[18:03] <hayer_> Does ubuntu have like the windows window management? super + < | > = move windows around, super + ^ | v = maximize, minimize etc ?  (I don't want "move between workspaces")
[18:04] <Ineedhelp> actionparsnip. my second problem of not being able to write to my disks has been resolved, but i still cant get my main problem figured out. i cant install a gui onto my server. its really hard to configure my server when i have to constantly switch my monitor between my computers. itd make my life easier if i could get this desktop onto my server
[18:04] <chowder> tozen: I think if you download the mainline ubuntu 14.04 kernel you can get the configuration options it has. Is your machine running at all? Also what is your native language?  Im afraid to plug it in.... took me so long to d/l those isos
[18:06] <gaganjyot> Hello, I am unable to download ubuntu via torrent
[18:06] <gaganjyot> the utopic release
[18:06] <chowder> tozen: on some linux distos you can do /proc/config to get the config for the currently running kernel
[18:06] <gaganjyot> says unauthorised for use with this tracker
[18:06] <gaganjyot> :(
[18:07] <gaganjyot> any help
[18:07] <rubiksmomo> I submitted a bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/1383831
[18:07] <tozen> chowder: brrrr... ???
[18:07] <supay> would it be a good idea to run Ubuntu on Macbook Pro Retina?
[18:08] <chowder> my advice would be to download the mainline kernel, update grub, and run Ubuntu with each kernel (one at a time of course). When you run it with your custom kernel output the configuration and save it to a file. Then do the same with the mainline kernel. After that you can use diff to see what is different between the two files.
[18:08] <supay> i wanted to go with Arch, but they say there are a lot of compatibility issues
[18:08] <rapture> I am testing out logrotate max size rule and am wondering what the best way to "fill" a log file would be so I can test it?
[18:09] <Ineedhelp> mgolisch that would work but my server is 100x as powerfull as my school computer. so to download unity would solve many more problems then just that one problem i mentioned. also the guide im using to setup jinzora uses a gui. so i wouldnt have to dig ffor hourse trying to find a way around ths.
[18:09] <chowder> tozen: cat /proc/config.gz or /boot/config or /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[18:09] <chowder> tozen: one of these commands should have the configuration of your currently running kernel
[18:10] <chowder> tozen: that's why I said that you will have to run these commands on EACH kernel individually
[18:10] <chowder> tozen: I don't know of any other way to do it
[18:10] <Zephyr1139> !nvidia
[18:10] <chowder> tozen: do you know how to pipe output to a file?
[18:11] <Zephyr1139> !uck
[18:11] <chowder> tozen: you will at least need a basic understanding of the shell to follow my instructions.
[18:11] <jhutchins> chowder: You're talking about the build config - it's in /boot/config`uname -r` - but I think tozen is talking about being able to install from apt.
[18:11] <mgolisch> Ineedhelp: why didnt you just install with a desktop iso if you wanted a gui all along?
[18:11] <chowder> jhutchins: thank you for clarifying.
 hi, I have just purchased a brand new Toshiba Laptop, and I am attempting to run the live-CD of Xubuntu on it.
 The CD appears to start working as I see the Xubuntu logo and the scrolling progress bar as it is booting / loading
[18:11] <jhutchins> tozen: Are you talking about compiling the kernel, or about installing it from apt/software center?
 but then it drops me straight into a command line prompt with no GUI / interface
[18:12] <Anom01y> the laptop has a AMD radaeon 2gb graphx driver,
[18:12] <jhutchins> chowder: Also, while using cat on a .gz (gzip) file will just show binary nonsense, zless will allow you to page through the text in the file.
[18:12] <Anom01y> I would like to install Xubuntu onto it, but since it does not even load the "try xubuntu before installing"   I am hesitant
[18:13] <chowder> jhutchins: yea I forgot to mention that he would have to pipe it through gunzip but I don't think he understands what I'm telling him.
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> Anom01y: try a lubuntu or ubuntu to test
[18:13] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[18:13] <jhutchins> ilk: Put it in a jar of dry rice for a couple of days (draws the water out).
[18:14] <Zephyr1139> !kde
[18:14] <Techathy> Sorry for asking a really dumb question but my google foo seems weak today - what is the proper way to enable a service in ubuntu 14.04 on the commandline without installing any utilities
[18:14] <gladioacuto> back again
[18:14] <Zephyr1139> !server
[18:14] <chowder> Techathy: I'm not sure I understand. How can you do anything on linux with utilities?
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | Zephyr1139
[18:15] <jhutchins> Anom01y: Check the md5sum of the iso you downloaded, and verify that the CD matches as well (or was verified when you burned it).
[18:15] <JokesOnYou77> I'm forwarding a local port on my machine to a port on a remote machine with ssh -L, but I would like to allow other machines on the LAN of my local machine to access that port (and use that forwarding).  How can I do that?
[18:15] <ircnode0> I want to make a hotkey that take screenshot of an are to clipboard, but according to man gnome-screenshot doesn't seems to have option for clipboard or does it?
[18:15] <Ineedhelp> mgolisch, because several steps to download LAMP in the desktop version and 1 command to download gui, 1 command sounds easier to me. but the problem just fixed itself.  i have no idea why it wasnt working before. guess it was a human error
[18:16] <ircnode0> e.g. gnome-screenshot -a -some_magic_option_for_copy_to_clipboard
[18:16] <jhutchins> Techathy: WHich release?
[18:16] <tozen> jhutchins: i'm thinking about to how can i get default settings so my kerlnel can be updated from update-manager or apt-get. at this moment in case of self installing i've lost this option and forced to do manually.
[18:16] <Techathy> 14.04 Server
[18:16] <mgolisch> Ineedhelp: good to hear :)
[18:16] <chowder> Techathy: what service are you working with? for things like Apache you would do /etc/init.d/apache start
[18:16] <ponyofdeath> hi, in 14.04 when i do gem list i see nothing under *** LOCAL GEMS *** even tho i have ubuntu packages installed and lots of gemspec files in /usr/share/rubygems-integration
[18:16] <Techathy> chowder: as in some other package which does stuff
[18:17] <Techathy> chowder: ics-dhcp-server
[18:17] <Techathy> & I don’t want to log & type service ics-dhcp-server start every time
[18:18] <chowder> Techathy: why not put it in a script? Upstart has the ability to start/stop services on boot. You should start there.
[18:18] <richac> tgm4883: i think the problem is,  that I just installed fedora on another partition yesterday,   and the selinux labeled all the files in the other system
[18:18] <richac> so if I go in the media directory for usr/bin for example,   for ubuntu,  all the files have selinux labels now lol
[18:19] <chowder> Techathy: why do you need to start your dhcp server? Can you explain what exactly you're doing so that I can get a better grasp of the issue?
[18:19] <ircnode0> nevermind found the option in gnome-screenshot --help
[18:19] <Ineedhelp> theese commands for ubuntu are 1000% more confusing then cisco commands. i didnt actually think this was possible
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> !info jobs-admin | Techathy
[18:20] <jhutchins> Techathy: For SysV init, you could manually create links from the script in /etc/init.d/ to /etc/rc2.d/ to a link beginning with S and a priority number, but it's easier to manage with something like rc.conf.
[18:20] <Techathy> I’ve done ‘apt-get install ics-dhcp-server’, I’ve configured the file but dhcpd doesn’t start at boot time. what’s the proper way on ubuntu 14.04?
[18:21] <chszaszcz> hi
[18:22] <chowder> Techathy: sudo apt-get install bum. Its the Boot Up Manager. Its graphical and easy to use. I'm assuming you're running X though
[18:22] <jhutchins> Techathy: For upstart, that should still work, but it's more complicated: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services
[18:22] <Ineedhelp> mgoglisch one more question once the desktop is done downloading how do i access it?
[18:23] <Pici> Techathy: Thats not a valid package name. Are you sure that is what you installed?
[18:27] <yoal3> how do i linux?
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> Pici: maybe he means isc-dhcp-server
[18:27] <Pici> lotuspsychje: seems that way.
[18:29] <OerHeks> Doing linux = using it, yoal3
[18:29] <chowder> OerHeks: here here :-)
[18:29] <gladioacuto> Please help! After configuring fluxbox as my wm in lightdm, going back to ubuntu default wm all graphics changed in a horrible way, dunno what happened!
[18:30] <gladioacuto> sound does not work anymore
[18:30] <JokesOnYou77> I'm forwarding a local port on my machine to a port on a remote machine with ssh -L, but I would like to allow other machines on the LAN of my local machine to access that port (and use that forwarding).  How can I do that?
[18:30] <gladioacuto> is there anyway to restore default ubuntu configurations?
[18:30] <chowder> gladioacuto: can you be more specific? Did the resolution change? Did the colors change? Have you tried using lightdm to go back to Unity instead of fluxbox?
[18:30] <JokesOnYou77> yoal3, start with opening a terminal and typing "man man" and hit enter
[18:31] <JokesOnYou77> then do a lot of reading
[18:31] <chowder> gladioacuto: when you go back to unity does it still work the same? etc. etc.
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:31] <ex-ada> Hey, what's a decent alternative to demon tools for ubuntu?
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: whats your end goal?
[18:31] <Techathy> Pici: typo isc not ics
[18:31] <JokesOnYou77> ex-ada, do you mean for mounting iso files?
[18:31] <ex-ada> lotuspsychje, I want to mount isos
[18:31] <ex-ada> yes
[18:32] <gladioacuto> chowder, going back to unity shows colors, themes and all other stuffs changed and moreover sound does not work anymore
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> !iso | ex-ada
[18:32] <chowder> gladioacuto: fluxbox is meant to be very bare bones and requires a good deal of configuration. It can look REALLY nice but it takes a lot of work. You don't just install fluxbox and are ready to go.
[18:32] <Techathy> jhutchins: thanks the answer was burried in that page
[18:33] <ex-ada> thanks lotuspsychje.. although I do just want a program that does it
[18:33] <ex-ada> lotuspsychje, but I do appreciate it.
[18:33] <JokesOnYou77> ex-ada, well, it's actually a built-in funcitonality in the OS, you can mount an ISO as a loopback location I think.  But if that's not your thing, give the docs a try: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountIso
[18:33] <ex-ada> okie dokie
[18:33] <k1l> ex-ada: just right click the iso.
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: apt-cache search iso or software centre :p
[18:33] <chowder> gladioacuto: I recommend you stick with unity for now and do some research on properly configuring fluxbox. Beware: fluxbox will take time to configure. You will need to edit configuration files manually for things like menus. It is highly configurable and very lightweight but you have to learn how it works before jumping into it.
[18:34] <ex-ada> yeah, I'm searching for it in the software center now
[18:34] <gladioacuto> chowder, i'm a long term fluxbox user, it does not care! the problem is why if no packages were removed from the system unity changed so much
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: playing movie iso's can be opened by vlc also
[18:34] <chowder> gladioacuto: sorry, I tend to assume people are newbies
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: depends what you want exactly
[18:34] <Hurri877> can anyone tell me why git-dch appends the string ubuntu when passing the snapshot option
[18:35] <chowder> gladioacuto: you got me, dude. I honestly have no idea. If the sound isn't working then maybe pulseaudio isn't running. have you checked that?
[18:35] <gladioacuto> chowder, i was a debian user, i'm a newby for ubuntu, is the sense that i don't know what is loaded, when and how
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> gladioacuto: maybe try creating a new user to test?
[18:36] <ex-ada> hooray, it looks like gmount does exactly what I want it to
[18:36] <chowder> gladioacuto: I understand. try a ps aux | grep "pulse". lotuspsychje's advice is also good.  How to add applications to system boot by default in ubuntu?
[18:37] <ex-ada> but hey, my thing works
[18:38] <ex-ada> It's not *as* easy as daemon tools, because it requires a mount point
[18:38] <ex-ada> but hey, it doesn't come loaded with malware, and does exactly what I need it to do
[18:38] <ex-ada> huzzah!
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: and whats inside your iso's?
[18:39] <ex-ada> not like Linux has a problem with malware at all
[18:39] <ex-ada> lotuspsychje, starcraft...
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> games ok
[18:39] <chowder> gladioacuto: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-manage-startupboot-up-services-in-ubuntu
[18:40] <linuxuz3r> anyone use apache here
[18:41] <chowder> gladioacuto: it mentions a nice GUI tool for managing services and a more lightweight commandline version using ncurses. Since you're a fluxbox user I'm guessing you'll tend towards the commandline. :) just apt-get install bum or apt-get install rconf. I think rconf should already be installed though
[18:41] <Hurri877> gitbuildpackage can anyone help?
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> linuxuz3r: try the #httpd guys
[18:41] <TLoFP> when i start nano I get home/user/.nano_history permission denied what is up with that?
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> TLoFP: did you try sudo?
[18:41] <sjO> Question: What does the update-manager? upgrade, dist-upgrade or some other things?
[18:42] <gladioacuto> chowder, i added a new user, i'll be back in a while
[18:42] <chowder> gladioacuto: hope it works out dude
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | chowder
[18:42] <DJones> linuxuz3r: Probably a lot of people, but before they'll reply, they need to know what your particular issue is
[18:42] <Zephyr1139> Would the following be equivalent: "install 14.04 server image" followed by "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" to just "install 14.04 kubuntu" ?
[18:43] <bubbasaures> sjO, The update manager shows you all available updates.
[18:43] <linuxuz3r> just wanna know if you can wget -R path to apache webserver
[18:43] <Techathy> oops… note to self - don’t reboot the system that has the VM which is serving as a temporary dns & dhcp… stuff does break
[18:43] <bubbasaures> can be adjusted for release updates however sjO
[18:44] <sjO> bubbasaures: Which commands do the update manager?
[18:44] <TLoFP> Totuspsychje ofcourse, but I don't wanna be root to use nano
[18:44] <linuxuz3r> does anyone wonder how apache webserver enforce permissions
[18:44] <chowder> random question: I've always wondered why apt-get update; will update everything except the kernel headers but the update-manager will update the kernel headers
[18:45] <bubbasaures> sjO, There is the app update manager that is what I'm addressing, apt-get update apt-get upgrade and for kernels included apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:45] <bubbasaures> terminal commands^^^^^^^^
[18:45] <chowder> lotuspsychje: I'm on a no carb diet. :/
[18:45] <gladioacuto> back again
[18:45] <chowder> gladioacuto: welcome back
[18:45] <gladioacuto> chowder, all fine for the new user
[18:45] <chowder> gladioacuto: that is quite weird
[18:46] <bubbasaures> chowder is no good without butter and cream
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> gladioacuto: so the old users config must be messed up
[18:46] <gladioacuto> lotuspsychje, yes, in some way i don't know
[18:46] <j1729> Hello !
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> !glutenfree cookie
[18:46] <j1729> How are you guys ? :)
[18:46] <gladioacuto> so is it possible to restore user onfig to defaults? which are the reference files?
[18:47] <j1729> Are there any bugs or something to fix or do in order to get started with open source ?
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> gladioacuto: try the users /home folder and show hidden files for configs
[18:47] <gladioacuto> that's why i like command line and simple wms though...;)
[18:47] <Quatroking> quick question - can I create windows 8 bootup sticks using linux
[18:47] <Quatroking> and if so, how
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: winusb can make win7 usb's not sure bout win8
[18:48] <bubbasaures> j1729, No, just install an OS, or try it out.
[18:48] <chowder> gladioacuto: I love fluxbox but it takes so much to get it looking the way I want it. Ideally I'd just have a small dock with a clock and notifications and another with minimized windows. I wonder if if I can put minimized windows in the fluxbox menu...
[18:48] <k1l> Quatroking: i am not aware of. better ask the ##windows guys about that
[18:48] <Quatroking> k1l, thanks for that suggestion, I will. Wouldn't be surprised if they redirected me back to this channel though, lol
[18:48] <Quatroking> lotuspsychje, I'll look into that. On windows the win8 bootup sticks are actually made using software made for win7 so who knows
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> Quatroking: winusb needs ppa adding, so be carefull ok
[18:50] <ex-ada> I know it's probably not recommended, but how do I always be root?
[18:50] <chowder> Quatroking: well you can always save the disk image and then write it directly to the USB stick
[18:50] <j1729> bubbasaures, thanks. I am on ubuntu 12.04.  How does one start contributing to ubuntu ? by writing codes
[18:50] <gladioacuto> chowder, for sure you can! take a look at fluxbox menu "Workspaces"
[18:50] <Quatroking> chowder, previous experience tells me that that doesn't really work too well though
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> j1729: developing?
[18:51] <gladioacuto> lotuspsychje, which config files should i copy back?
[18:51] <j1729> lotuspsychje , yes. How can I get involved ?
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> j1729: #ubuntu-devel
[18:51] <chowder> Quatroking: I use brasero. I have a LEGIT (GO AWAY MICROSOFT) copy of Windows 8.1 that I ripped off a DVD. The image file is sitting on my hard drive.
[18:51] <j1729> lotuspsychje, thanks a lot buddy ! Cheers.
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> j1729: or #ubuntu-touch also needs many help for the touch version on mobiles
[18:52] <chowder> Quatroking: I suppose you could try dd if=/path/to/image/file of=/path/to/device
[18:52] <j1729> lotuspsychje, thanks again !
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> j1729: thank you for helpin the devs :p
[18:52] <bubbasaures> j1729, You can do it with support, here, is ITT an end or working goal at the moment?
[18:52] <chowder> Quatroking: but read the documentation before you use dd. If you write something incorrectly it will destroy all of your data.
[18:52] <Hurri877> why does gitdch append the string ubuntu to all my versions?
[18:53] <Quatroking> chowder, I'll go and try winusb first
[18:53] <chowder> Quatroking: that'd probably be best. If that doesn't work I'd look into making a bootable USB stick. You can install Grub to a USB stick which can in turn boot Windows.
[18:53] <alexgl> need a refresher, I have a samba user that I want to let use of a drive i mounted at /mnt/samba-user   for that share to be available i need to give samba-user permissions to use that folder. is it chmod 775 that i need to use there?
[18:53] <ex-ada> I mean, it's kind of a drag always having to type gksudo nautilus *every* time I want to apply changes to a .whatever folder
[18:54] <ex-ada> so is there a way to always be root?
[18:54] <ex-ada> or have root access?
[18:54] <gladioacuto> chowder, do you know if it is possible to call the unity-2d-panel battery button app and power button one standalon?I did it for the wifi button, which points to nm-applet, dunno for the others...it would be great for me
[18:54] <Jonathan19919991> Hey, I just installed ubuntu 14.10 october 17 build and I cannot log in because it didn't save somehow that I want to use Hungarian as the input language so I cannot type my password. Any advice?
[18:54] <k1l> ex-ada: if you need to be root all the time you are doing something wrong at all
[18:54] <j1729> bubbasaures,  I want to be a part of the development community :)
[18:55] <bubbasaures> Quatroking, This app works nicely, if used, use gparted to make the fat32 on the usb. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[18:55] <jhutchins> alexgl: Samba runs as root and has it's own permissions configuration.
[18:55] <chowder> gladioacuto: I'm really not sure. I don't even use Unity. I use gnome3.
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> bubbasaures: i also use multiboot, for all my ubuntu iso's on 1 stick
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> bubbasaures: +1
[18:55] <chowder> gladioacuto: I think there's a unity channel here on freenode though
[18:55] <bubbasaures> lotuspsychje, Yeah nice app. ;)
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> bubbasaures: a bit weird method to install, do you know location of a proper .deb?
[18:57] <opus_> Hello, anyone else getting crashes every 3-4 hours on Intel Corporation Mobile GM965 ? My display goes blank but my machine is up. This is after doing apt-get update/upgrade
[18:57] <jhutchins> ex-ada: Running graphical programs as root can have very destructive and unexpected consequences.  Strongly recommended against, with the exception of using gksudo to configure settings.
[18:57] <gladioacuto> chowder, if you use gnome3, are there equivalent for gnome that i can use to those i wrote above?
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> opus_: did you install ubuntu with internet enabled?
[18:57] <opus_> I think I turned on crash reporting after the fact if thats what you are referring to
[18:57] <opus_> how do I check that?
[18:58] <bubbasaures> lotuspsychje, Not sure on a deb but this works fine adding the repo and key. http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install
[18:58] <rww> Jonathan1991: 14.10 questions go in #ubuntu+1
[18:58] <ex-ada> so.. nobody knows how to always have root access at all times?
[18:58] <rww> (#ubuntu only deals with released versions of Ubuntu)
[18:58] <bekks> !root | ex-ada
[18:59] <bekks> ex-ada: You always have root access using sudo.
[18:59] <ex-ada> thanks bekks, but what I'm trying to do is not have to use the sudo command or have to type gksudo nautilus every time I want to make .whatever changes
[18:59] <k1l> ex-ada: why do you want be have root access all the time? there is no need for that on ubuntu tbh
[18:59] <OerHeks> ex-ada, you can have a terminalsession as root: sudo -i
[18:59] <ex-ada> kll, why not?
[19:00] <k1l> ex-ada: why?
[19:00] <ex-ada> OerHeks, okay, what about having root access all the time
[19:00] <bekks> ex-ada: you can always use sudo and configure sudo to your needs.
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> bubbasaures: tnx for the addline, i did the .sh install last time :p
[19:00] <k1l> ex-ada: can you give serious examples? beeing root all the time is a bad windows habit.
[19:00] <opus_> Do you think my laptop is dying or is it a new driver update for my X11 crashes?
[19:00] <ex-ada> k1l, it's mostly for convenience\
[19:00] <alexgl> jhutchins: if there is an active connection or if a user just logged onto the server through samba, would it show under the gadmin-samba gui in the connections tab?
[19:00] <bubbasaures> lotuspsychje, I always ssh as well, had to look for the other.
[19:00] <ex-ada> k1l, I agree, but I want it anyway. How do you do it?
[19:00] <bekks> opus_: you ould take a look at the logs in /var/log/
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> bubbasaures: no i mean the .sh script install of multiboot
[19:01] <k1l> ex-ada: ubuntu is build on the basis of sudo. the regular user doesnt need to be root all the time.
[19:01] <ex-ada> k1l, okay, granted, it's a bad idea. But even if I don't need to, how do I do it?
[19:01] <DesuDesu> story time: the first person i told how to become permanent root crashed his system within a few hours
[19:01] <k1l> ex-ada: the answer was already given. but dont come in here and complain your system is ruined.
[19:01] <tgm4883> ex-ada: also, based on channel rules, even if we wanted to (which we don't ), we couldn't tell you how to do it
[19:01] <opus_> bekks, what log file would it be in? thanks
[19:01] <ex-ada> hm.. I'll have to look for it
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> opus_: also check your lshw -C video what driver loaded
[19:02] <bekks> ex-ada: you have to read the message of the bot closely, again.
[19:02] <k1l> DesuDesu: exactly that is the issue with the "but is need to be root all the time"-guys
[19:03] <opus_> Weird, kern.log doesn't show anything of the regular
[19:03] <opus_> ?
[19:03] <Vadomo> hi
[19:03] <ex-ada> I guess it's not too huge of a deal... it's just an extra step.
[19:03] <bekks> opus_: Take a look at /var/log/syslog more likely
[19:04] <gladioacuto> is there any settings-daemon launched in ubuntu by default?
[19:04] <bekks> gladioacuto: Whats a settings daemon?
[19:04] <Zephyr1139> Has 14.10 reached the LTS state or is it still in (bleeding) alpha state?
[19:04] <gladioacuto> bekks, like gnome-settings-daemon
[19:04] <Pici> Zephyr1139: 14.10 will never be an LTS.
[19:05] <tgm4883> Zephyr1139: 14.10 is not an LTS release
[19:05] <k1l> Zephyr1139: 14.10 will not be a lts at all
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> gladioacuto: you can edit stuff in dconf-editor
[19:05] <mgolisch> hm why doesnt --name and --class work on gnome-terminal
[19:05] <mgolisch> is this expected behavior?
[19:05] <opus_> Hey guys I found the error!
[19:05] <opus_> http://pastebin.com/M501HPU4
[19:05] <Pici> Zephyr1139: The official release date is sometime on the 23rd.  LTS releases are every 2 years, 14.04 (April 2014) 16.04 (April 2016), etc.
[19:06] <mgolisch> also is there some other way to add some property to a started terminal so that i could distinguish it among other instances of gnome-terminal ?
[19:06] <gladioacuto> lotuspsychje, i've no dconf-editor by default in 12.04 LTS
[19:06] <gladioacuto> lotuspsychje, i meant any script that loads settings by default
[19:06] <opus_> any else have that issue before?
[19:07] <chowder> gladioacuto: sorry I didn't reply I was a bit busy. As for the gnome apps I
[19:07] <chowder> I'm not sure off the top of my head if there's a standalone battery app. I'm sure there is but gnome3 is so different from gnome2 that I just can't be sure.
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> gladioacuto: make your life easy and reinstall it clean with whatever you need
[19:07] <chowder> gladioacuto: I'd look into xfce apps
[19:08] <k1l> opus_: your system freezes occasionaly?
[19:08] <Zephyr1139> Pici, do releases toggle between XX.04 (stable) an XX.10 (experimental) ?
[19:08] <Pici> Zephyr1139: No.
[19:08] <Pici> Zephyr1139: 04 Means april .10 Means October.
[19:08] <eer> Is it possible to open 2 instances of VLC player? When I watch a video and open another one the one open is replaced by the 2nd one? How can I open 2?
[19:09] <gladioacuto> lotuspsychje, i didn't uninstall anything! i just want my default user run correctly with unity. But the problem at this point, is that unity seems to me to be a so "close" wm, it seems to be so far from the linux phylosophy...
[19:09] <opus_> k1l : yes, every 4-6 hours
[19:09] <rww> Zephyr1139: Ubuntu version numbers are year.month. Ubuntu releases an LTS every two years.
[19:09] <rww> Zephyr1139: so 16.04, 14.04, 12.04, 10.04, 6.06 (delayed)
[19:09] <opus_> k1l: Whenever I do video or do a bunch of windowing
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> eer: open vlc from terminal twice
[19:10] <bekks> gladioacuto: And whats your actual issue besides a "settings daemon"?
[19:10] <eer> lotuspsychje, is there no other way?
[19:10] <eer> lotuspsychje, only by using the terminal?
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> eer: i tryed rightmouse, but there's no new window option so..
[19:11] <opus_> People are saying to switch to UXA ? any idea?
[19:11] <k1l> opus_: i had that, too on 14.04 and before. but not on 14.10 so far. i did not have a solution for this.
[19:11]  * o11c can't help but think it would decrease confusing if Ubuntu released in *any* month other than .10
[19:11] <o11c> everybody always tries to say 14.1
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> opus_: did you check your additional driver list?
[19:11] <o11c> but with 14.09 or 14.11 they couldn't do that
[19:11] <gladioacuto> bekks, i was trying to understand why from some point onward audio stopped working in my default user fluxbox session in ubuntu. I argued that there is a settings daemon not launched in this custom session so a lot of things could not work properly
[19:12] <opus_> lotuspsychje?
[19:12] <eer> ok thx
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> opus_: to see what intel drivers loaded
[19:12] <chowder> anyone use tiling window managers? I use gnome3 and sometimes its a hassle to switch between different workspaces. I like the idea of having custom layouts but I have a laptop. Are tiling WMs better suited to larger screens? HALP PLZ
[19:12] <bekks> gladioacuto: It stopped working after doing what exactly?
[19:12] <opus_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:13] <opus_> lotuspsychje, I'm not running Unity btw so I think you are referring to some kind of GUI configorator?
[19:13] <gladioacuto> bekks, i don't know, otherwise i would not have been heere...apparently nothing, i didn't uninstall anything
[19:14] <k1l> opus_: that seems to be caused by the intel driver. i had the same with my intel hd4000 card on unity
[19:14] <bekks> gladioacuto: Maybe it's because you installed something? Things dont stop working without a reason. :)
[19:14] <opus_> This guy is also having the same issue http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2248299
[19:15] <gladioacuto> bekks, yes i installed a lot of things
[19:15] <bekks> gladioacuto: So thats not "nothing".
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> chowder: apt-cache search show a few, like tritium
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> !info tritium | chowder
[19:16] <eer> lotuspsychje, I found the solution
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> eer: share :p
[19:16] <opus_> Strange Firefox does NOT crash my system but chrome does. Even if I run chrome --disable-gpu
[19:16] <eer> lotuspsychje, https://wiki.videolan.org/How_to_play_multiple_instances_of_VLC/       in Interface tab scroll down to playlist and instances
[19:16] <eer> untick checkbox Allow only one instance
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> eer: cool trick
[19:17] <eer> ;)
[19:17] <gladioacuto> bekks, so i come back to my question: which are the reference files i can copy back from my new "test" user, where thing work as expected in unity, to my default user, where things changed under unity?
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> eer: but ill stay with 1 movie at time :p
[19:17] <chowder> lotuspsychje: a tiling wm in python? idk. I'd go with something a bit more robust like C or Haskell.
[19:18] <bekks> gladioacuto: All settings files of all applications related to sound, I guess.
[19:18] <Guest27042> hi. my laptop is asus x550 and the os I installed on it is Xubuntu 14.04. everything was ok but I no output voice when I used apps like skype. so I dealed a bit with sound setting. I didn't change anything but now I have no sound even when I play MP3! what should I do?
[19:19] <asarch> How do you install Evolution?
[19:19] <eer> lotuspsychje, yes but handy when watching porn. :)
[19:19] <mgolisch> hm seems like gnome-terminal cant set a custom wm_class or instance name
[19:19] <mgolisch> too bad
[19:19] <mgolisch> guess ill look for another terminal then
[19:19] <mgolisch> any suggestions?
[19:19] <asarch> ...on AMD64 platform?
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> eer: lol, terminator 16 shell tabs/start vlc :p
[19:20] <bekks> !info evolution | asarch
[19:20] <asarch> apt-get -y install evolution seems not to be the correct way
[19:20] <gladioacuto> bekks, could you be more specific? there are a lot of hidden dirs
[19:20] <bekks> asarch: Why not?
[19:20] <eer> gotta run ...
[19:20] <eer> CU
[19:20] <asarch> I doesn't show any access in the app menu
[19:20] <bekks> asarch: Which doesnt mean it isnt installed.
[19:20] <asarch> You have to start it manually by typing evolution from a terminal
[19:21] <asarch> I already did: apt-get -y install evolution
[19:21] <Guest27042> asarch: plz help me too :d what should I do with my sound setting?!
[19:22] <asarch> Can you paste the lspci output?
[19:22] <asarch> Nevermind, it seems that the system needs a reboot
[19:22] <asarch> Thank you bekks
[19:22] <asarch> Thank you very much :-)
[19:23] <oritromax> Anyone noticed the problem with skype 4.3 in 64bit?
[19:23] <lotuspsychje> chowder: maybe somthing interesting here: http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/customization/screenshots/nix/?order=9&q=tiling+manager
[19:23] <Guest27042> asarch: how should I see the lspci output?! any command for terminal?!
[19:23] <asarch> Of couse!
[19:23] <asarch> sudo lspci please
[19:24] <oritromax> Any comment on skype's Problem? Guyz?
[19:24] <bekks> oritromax: Can you define "the" problem?
[19:25] <chowder> lotuspsychje: thanks. these actually look really beautiful and, since I have a Windows 8.1 VM on my machine, I was looking to a tiling wm to help me preserve resources
[19:25] <oritromax> Its not working in 14.04 64 bit
[19:25] <oritromax> And 32 bit also
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> oritromax: i have 64bit and its wotking here, how did you install?
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> chowder: you know preload?
[19:26] <oritromax> Downloaded the official Version ( .deb ) and installed it
[19:26] <lotuspsychje> oritromax: wich .deb
[19:26] <chowder> lotuspsychje: I've heard of that but I'm unsure what its for.
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | chowder
[19:27] <Guest27042> asarch: http://pastebin.com/K74rUQRt
[19:27] <opus_> How do I downgrade to kernel <3.14?
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> chowder: i use it togheter with my ssd, system fast as rocket :p
[19:27] <oritromax> Ubuntu 12.04 Multi arch - File name: skype-ubuntu-precise_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[19:28] <k1l> opus_: downgrade? 14.04 got 3.13
[19:28] <chowder> lotuspsychje: I have an SSD as well.
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> chowder: wich one
[19:28] <Guest27042> asarch: I really don't know what I did to sound setting :D
[19:28] <opus_> Well, how do I downgrade to a older kernel. It definite is my issue.
[19:28] <opus_> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/41979 <-- exact issue
[19:28] <bekks> opus_: Can you pastebin lsb_release -a and uname -a please?
[19:29] <asarch> Are you really sure it is actually not working?
[19:29] <k1l> opus_: uname -a gives you what?
[19:29] <asarch> Intel has a great support in Linux
[19:29] <asarch> Maybe it is muted
[19:29] <opus_> http://pastebin.com/xQRJg7wi
[19:29] <chowder> lotuspsychje: to be honest I don't even remember lol. I think its a Western Digital. Also I googled preload and readahead. I don't think it'd help me. I mainly stick to like 5 applications.
[19:29] <k1l> opus_: so you got 3.13
[19:30] <OerHeks> opus that regression started with 3.14
[19:30] <oritromax> @lotuspsychje : here is a screenshot
[19:30] <oritromax> lotuspsychje
[19:30] <asarch> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/253558
[19:30] <oritromax> http://i.imgur.com/E02w0Le.png
[19:31] <Guest27042> asarch: No I don't think so! I checked wether it's mute or not! but it seems that it's not muted
[19:31] <opus_> Alright then I need to upgrade?
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> chowder: for me it speeds up, togheter with my fstab tweaks
[19:32] <chowder> lotuspsychje: what kind of tweaks do you make to fstab? I haven't touched fstab since I have full disk encryption with LVM
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> chowder: lemme paste it holdon
[19:32] <k1l> opus_: on 14.10 i didnt have that issue so far.
[19:32] <OerHeks> opus_, wait for utopic, with 3.16 http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/kernel/
[19:32] <opus_> is there anything I can do now? I need to get work done without my desktop crashing every 3-4 hours
[19:33] <teward> is it sane to run `do-release-upgrade -s` before the actual upgrade to see if anything breaks?
[19:33] <opus_> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85069 that issue and  this issue https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77104
[19:33] <opus_> ugh I should have never upgraded
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> chowder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8618722/
[19:34] <oritromax> Anybody wanna put some light on Skype 4.3 Problem in 14.04 64 bit?
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> chowder: i also use: swappiness=10 en grub boot with 'quiet splash' off
[19:34] <teward> oritromax: keep in mind Skype isn't maintained by the Ubuntu people - therhe's not too much that can be done
[19:34] <bekks> opus_: you could try using the nightly driver as suggested in the first link.
[19:34] <k1l> opus_: is there a bug on launchpad to it? does it link to the actual freedesktop bugs?
[19:35] <oritromax> I know, i just wanted to know, if there is any workaround that can solve my problem
[19:35] <elham> help plz!!! I wanna listen to music :d but there is  no sound and I have no idea what to do
[19:35] <chowder> oritromax: its kind of hard for anyone to troubleshoot skype since its closed source. This doesn't mean that no one can help but its something you should keep in mind.
[19:35] <k1l> opus_: if the ubuntu devs dont have that error they dont get to know
[19:35] <teward> oritromax: you're probably better off asking on the Skype site, but unless you ask your actual question nobody can help
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> oritromax: try make another user, and download skype from there
[19:35] <teward> oritromax: that said, troublemaking is difficult because closed-source
[19:35] <chowder> elham: take some ice. dip a washrag in it. now put it on your face. wait.
[19:36] <chowder> elham: open your terminal and type this: ps aux | grep "pulse"
[19:36] <elham> chowder: :))))))))
[19:36] <chowder> elham: tell me the output
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> oritromax: you have an optimus graphics card?
[19:36] <oritromax> The actual question is, skype doesn't run from dashboard, but in terminal it shows: skype: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtOpenGL.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZNK14QWidgetPrivate17hasHeightForWidthEv
[19:36] <oritromax> I have ATI REDON 5450
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> oritromax: you sure you install all your drivers correctly?
[19:37] <chowder> lotuspsychje: I think I have swappiness set to like 10 or less
[19:37] <dagerik> im having problems sending email with msmtp. symptom: email not showing up in email inbox after 4 hours. https://bpaste.net/show/7dad8658e6a6
[19:37] <elham> chowder: http://pastebin.com/LpY7cr17 :d
[19:37] <oritromax> I am using X.ORG Driver for My GPU
[19:38] <oritromax> and when i changed the environment from /usr/share/applications/skype.desktop - it worked
[19:38] <oritromax> but couldn't use that fix in 64bit, not working
[19:39] <chowder> elham: pulseaudio is running and that's what outputs the sound. was the sound working before? did you make any changes to your setup?
[19:40] <chowder> elham: if you need more in depth help you can pm me. I know the chat can be a bit much at times.
[19:43] <elham> chowder: yeah it was ok but when I used to voice chat with skype my friend didn't have my sound so I dealed a bit with sound setting. I didn't change anything (as I remember) but suddenly voice muted! and until that time I have no sound :d
[19:43] <elham> chowder: any suggestion wht to do?
[19:44] <chowder> elham: do you see a volume icon on your machine? try raising the volume. You might have just muted it.
[19:45] <elham> chowder: yes I see! no! I tested it before :d the sound is up!
[19:45] <chowder> elham: what application did you use to mess with the volume? PulseAudio can be made to output to the speakers or take input from a program such as skype
[19:45] <oritromax> elham: did you checked the Sounds Settings?
[19:46] <elham> chowder: oom.I just used sound setting from taskbar! nothing else.
[19:47] <elham> oritromax: yeah. I did everything I can! but problem didn't fix
[19:47]  * elham feels like a poor girl with no sound laptop :D
[19:47] <oritromax> elham: i had kinda same problem before. There was some settings problem !
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> elham: open a tail -f /var/log/syslog en fool around with sound a bit
[19:48] <elham> oritromax: and what did u do?
[19:48] <oritromax> Did some googling and found the solution
[19:49] <oritromax> But before that, check the system log as "lotuspsychje" suggested
[19:49] <elham> oritromax: I googled it before! but no answer
[19:49] <elham> oritromax: lotuspsychje http://pastebin.com/m9HvpB8J
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> elham: no sound issues yet, look at older logs yourself
[19:51] <dagerik> my email is not showing up even after this message from msmtp: okt. 21 21:35:57 host=smtp.stud.ntnu.no tls=off auth=off<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>mailsize=131 smtpstatus=250 smtpmsg='250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as A806D916DF9' exitcode=EX_OK
[19:51] <elham> lotuspsychje: what do u think about hardware?! any hardware problem?
[19:51] <oritromax> it seems clear ! at least no known issue with your sound ! Did you tried your sound hardware somewhere else?
[19:52] <oritromax> Like using the 3.5 mm with a phone to check if its okey?
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> elham: your sdb1 shows an error
[19:52] <elham> oritromax: the headset is ok with other devices. the problem is laptop
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> !sound | elham
[19:53] <ex-ada> good news, though. Starcraft works flawlessly.
[19:53] <ex-ada> the first one, I mean
[19:53] <ex-ada> I haven't actually tested the second one.
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: how did you run it on ubuntu?
[19:53] <ex-ada> lotuspsychje, I had WINE and installed it normally and it worked
[19:53] <ex-ada> Oh, I also applied a patch, which also worked fine
[19:53] <elham> lotuspsychje: :d yes. I tried to make an iso image and have a live session and check the sound there! but there was a problem with sdb :d
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | ex-ada check also this package
[19:54] <hyde> is there a standard way to debug into Ubuntu libraries? I've got the debug symbols, and I've got the stack trace and disassembly view in in debugger (Qt Creator with gdb as backend). Alternative is of course to provide path for the sources and get them where ever I want, but before I do that, I'd like to know if there's a standard location found
[19:54] <hyde> "automatically"
[19:54] <ex-ada> thanks lotuspsychje
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> !debug | hyde
[19:55] <ex-ada> I'm trying to determine whether I should keep unity. When I first had a vanilla install of ubuntu, unity was slow.. but since I "fixed" it, everything is very fast.
[19:55] <ex-ada> so right now I'm just wondering if I like it aesthetically...
[19:56] <ex-ada> I like gnome 2, but not gnome 3.. hmm
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: unity is very intuitive once you get used to it
[19:56] <bubbasaures> ex-ada, unity is tiny, a plugin in compiz, just install another DE I would not try and remove unity.
[19:56] <ex-ada> lotuspsychje, yeah, it doesn't give me problems.. especially since I turned off the web suggestions
[19:56] <ex-ada> bubbasaures, oh yeah, I wouldn't remove it either.. I just might use something else. Maybe.
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: ofcourse we cant discuss flavors right, everyone chooses whats right for his needs
[19:57] <ex-ada> but it isn't bad.
[19:57] <ex-ada> and since I added the classic menu indicator, it's great.
[19:58] <ex-ada> canonical should have the classic menu indicator in addition to unity by default. that would be great
[19:58] <hyde> lotuspsychje: thanks, but I didn't find an answer from that page. I do have the debug symbols, and they appear to be loaded by debugger... So perhaps this means, I do need to specify the path to the sources.
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> ex-ada: you can also drag your fav icons onto unity left bar
[19:58] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> does anyone know where I can it an older version of the world of warcraft installer?
[19:59] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> trying to play it on ubuntu but the current installer doesn't work
[19:59] <JokesOnYou77> I'm forwarding a local port on my machine to a port on a remote machine with ssh -L, but I would like to allow other machines on the LAN of my local machine to access that port (and use that forwarding).  How can I do that?
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> Ryu_Fitzgerald: did you try playonlinux yet?
[19:59] <ex-ada> lotuspsychje, I did know that. What I don't like is how unity sometimes puts newly installed programs onto the bar without asking me. But it's a minor gripe, really
[19:59] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> yes and so far no response,  will be waiting in that channel
[19:59] <pablopf16> hi
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | JokesOnYou77
[20:00] <John_John_> i would like to download 14.04 LTS and setup a mail server. Should i need to download the desktop or server edition ?
[20:00] <chowder> lotuspsychje: I have returned
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> chowder: wb
[20:01] <hyde> John_John_: do you want GUI on local monitor?
[20:02] <John_John_> yes i would prefer to
[20:02] <hyde> John_John_: if yes, then I'd install Lubuntu variant, then optionally uninstall some of the unnecessary desktop apps that come with it
[20:02] <hyde> of course you can also install the server, then apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> Ryu_Fitzgerald: maybe this can help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[20:03] <John_John_> and what about the mail server ?
[20:03] <hyde> (or whatever)
[20:03] <John_John_> is the mail server already installed in the server edition ?
[20:03] <chowder> lotuspsychje: thank you.
[20:04] <chowder> lotuspsychje: have you ever tried running Xen?
[20:04] <tab1293> What do '0' permissions mean for the owner of a directory?
[20:04] <elham> lotuspsychje: what will happen if I remove the pulseaudio and installing it again ? :d
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> chowder: no never
[20:04] <hyde> John_John_: you can select to install it on installation I think... but you'd still need to configure it I think...
[20:04] <chowder> elham: pulseaudio is an integral part of the system. It won't do anything.
[20:04] <FooMunki> Hey has anyone here seen an error like: iptables v1.4.14: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
[20:05] <chowder> elham: your issues are in how pulse is configured
[20:05] <hyde> anyway, it's just an apt-get away for a desktop ubuntu, so not much difference, AFAIK
[20:05] <Ryu_Fitzgerald> lotuspsychje, thanks but that just takes me to the website to get the instaler
[20:05] <richac> you can uninstall pulse and you will have sound with alsa
[20:05] <FooMunki> I’m lost with it - Am i right in thinking its because i need to recompile my kernal
[20:05] <richac> but you will lose pavucontrol and an eq if you have one installed
[20:05] <elham> chowder: yeah! any way to reset all the configuration to defult one? t
[20:05] <richac> the you use alsamixer
[20:06] <John_John_> so i guess i would start with the server eddition and then apt-get lubuntu-desktop right ?
[20:06] <squidly> richac: that is true.. but you will have som eissues but you can cause issues with some applicataions.
[20:06] <chowder> lotuspsychje: I wanted to make linux my Dom0 and have Windows 8.1 and my DomU. But now I'm debating it. I use Windows at work but it can never compare to Linux.
[20:06] <richac> dunno, i've never had an y issues
[20:06] <squidly> richac: but most people can do that. skype required pulseaudio now
[20:06] <richac> oh ok i see
[20:06] <richac> ya i don't use skype
[20:06] <hyde> is pulseaudio *still* causing problems? after all these years it's been around?
[20:06] <chowder> elham: not that I know of. its hard to diagnose the issue without being there and seeing your screen
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> chowder: i dumped winblows for years now :p
[20:07] <squidly> hyde: yes
[20:07] <richac> hyde: ya its terrible,  linux people don't listen to audio
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> lol
[20:07] <elham> chowder: team viewer?! :d
[20:07] <richac> the only desktop, thats lets me control the master volume,  without breaking the levels on my surround channels,  is cinnamon
[20:07] <richac> when controlling master volume from panel
[20:07] <chowder> elham: I'd love to help but I'm at work. I think this is the most they'll let me get away with.
[20:08] <elham> chowder: :) thank u dude :)
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> chowder: i also want a work where i can xchat for hours on ubuntu :p
[20:08] <chowder> elham: no problem. don't give up hope. your answer is probably a google away.
[20:08] <chowder> lotuspsychje: lol I'm a student. I'm doing college work/study.
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> elham: many problems dissapear after a good ol clean install :p
[20:09] <Guest53385> Hi, Steam's not running properly, possibly something to do with curl due to connection problems (another PC running 14.04 works fine)
[20:09] <Guest53385> Any suggestions?
[20:09] <bekks> Guest53385: Whats the complete, detailed error you get?
[20:09] <chowder> elham: yeah I'd do a reinstall if its that much of an issue. Just back up your important stuff and burn an Ubuntu DVD then reinstall.
[20:10] <elham> richac: lotuspsychje chowder I'm not sure about removing pulseaudio! but I have alsa :D maybe it's good to remove pulsaudio
[20:10] <chowder> elham: in the future, you will want to do research before you attempt to mess with core parts of Ubuntu like PulseAudio.
[20:10] <Guest53385> bekks, sorry for the long name, forgot to set my normal ID and I forgot how to change it in XChat, It just throws me the "steam is having trouble connecting to the servers"#
[20:10] <chowder> elham: alsa alone won't let you use skype like you wanted. Alsa is like a software layer that pulseaudio runs on top of.
[20:11] <richac> all linux uses alsa
[20:11] <k1l_> elham: did you check alsamixer already if its muted?
[20:11] <elham> chowder: Ao ! Thank you very muck
[20:11] <elham> much
[20:11] <richac> but  i don't use skype so can't comment
[20:11] <chowder> Guest53385: type /nick newNickName where newNickName is your desired nick name
[20:12] <jhutchins> Guest53385: Troubleshoot your connection.  It could very well be at their end, server load or some such.
[20:12] <elham> richac: I don't have sound now in the system! I mean I can't listening to the music :d
[20:12] <richac> beats me
[20:12] <richac> go goole
[20:12] <richac> *google
[20:12] <bazhang> richac, dont say that here
[20:12] <richac> elham: what did you do really?
[20:13] <k1l_> elham: richac can we stop the myths in here and stick to actual support please?
[20:13] <elham> k1l_: all the pdif's sho 00 ! I want to rise them but no way
[20:13] <toma678> jhutchins, when I click the troubleshooting link, I get a zero data error, or it just endlessly sits there until it hits it's TTL
[20:13] <richac> i figured he was lying and joking
[20:13] <k1l_> elham: what is the output port/media?
[20:13] <toma678> jhutchins, now it's thrown a 502
[20:13] <toma678> (bad gateway)
[20:14] <toma678> Leading me to believe it's a curl problem..
[20:14] <k1l_> toma678: the steam repos do have some downtime sometimes
[20:14] <elham> k1l_: what do u mean?
[20:15] <k1l_> toma678: its down for me, too
[20:15] <toma678> k1l_, Alright, guess their auth servers are having their oil changed, thanks :3
[20:15] <elham> k1l_: headphone and laptops speaker! both of them are not working
[20:16] <toma678> just to confirm, k1l_, does the troubleshooting link go dead for you?
[20:16] <k1l_> elham: what is the output port? hdmi? internal speaker?  headphone plug?
[20:16] <richac> elham: what desktop are you using?
[20:16] <k1l_> elham: does it say MM under the lines in alsamixer?
[20:17] <toma678> has he tried PAVU?
[20:17] <richac> toma678: is he telling the truth?  i'm not sure
[20:17] <richac> corey is here to save the day!
[20:17] <k1l_> toma678: steam down. the link, too
[20:18] <toma678> richac, no idea, but you can only do what you can do... PAVU config tab would be my first port of call if he hasn't been there before
[20:18] <toma678> Especially if it's a soundblaster, those damn things have so many little amps an soft-switches...
[20:18] <toma678> Alright, thanks k1l_ :)
[20:23] <Guest23414> I cheked the sound in live session and everything was ok. it means that there is a priblem with configuration :d
[20:23] <Guest23414> :D
[20:24] <pkruz> I've just configured my Ubuntu; installed and configured SW and devices' drivers. It's ready to use but before I will, I want to create something like system/disk backup...
[20:24] <azizLIGHT> anyone try virtualbox with win10? i get error 0x0000005D. what should i do? im on ubuntu 14.04
[20:25] <pkruz> could you give me any general tips what is the best option in Ubuntu?
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> pkruz: option to do what exactly?
[20:25] <pkruz> to create backup of system/disk
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> !backup | pkruz
[20:27] <toma678> pkruz, If you're looking for something more permanent, you could use this. (The site has a nice example to simplify Amanda as much as possible..) http://www.zmanda.com/quick-backup-setup.html
[20:32] <azizLIGHT> is it possible to tell if PAE or NX is enabled without rebooting and cehcking bios
[20:32] <pkruz> OK, thank you guys. One more question in this matter. Let's say I'm going to replace my computer soon and I'd like to migrate with all my stuff to the new one. What solutions should I check?
[20:34] <toma678> pkruz, That would depend on what you want to keep. If you just want to keep your documents and files, you could just backup your ~ folder, if you want a complete system copy, that's a bit more involved.
[20:34] <bubbasaures> pkruz, Have everything you can't loose backed up and clone the HD and reload the new computer. Be aware of the uefi gpt issues if you have a msdos mbr now.
[20:37] <pkruz> toma678: yes, I've on my mind sth like complete system copy
[20:37] <pkruz> I'm wondering if that's possible
[20:38] <adoniscik> why might a command, which is at the front of the path and the top of the which -a list not be the first to the executed?
[20:39] <bubbasaures> pkruz, Did you check the bot's links?
[20:39] <lotuspsychje> how can i disable cups and other services easy?
[20:41] <toma678> pkruz, If you were using LVM, you could just snapshot..?
[20:42] <installer0111> Hello, I have a new computer Im trying to install ubuntu in it, but grub2 cant install itself in the boot mbr... Any ideas on what the problem can be?
[20:42] <pkruz> bubbasaures: I'm checking it, I must read more about it
[20:42] <pkruz> toma678: LVM?
[20:42] <BluesKaj> !UEFI | installer0111
[20:42] <bubbasaures> pkruz, There are handfuls of backup and cloning options, just be sure what you do works. heh.
[20:42] <pkruz> virtual machine?
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> installer0111: did you disable secureboot?
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> how can i disable cups and other unwanted services easy?
[20:43] <installer0111> lotuspsychje: have to go snd check... Thanks
[20:44] <tim-ct> hi all  am i in the right channel for help for the poodle ssl problem
[20:45] <BluesKaj> tim-ct, which OS?
[20:45] <tim-ct> ubuntu 12.04 lts and 14.04 lts
[20:48] <BluesKaj> tim-ct, http://askubuntu.com/questions/537196/how-do-i-patch-workaround-sslv3-poodle-vulnerability-cve-2014-3566
[20:48] <tim-ct> blueskaj: no updates have been issued for it
[20:50] <k1l_> tim-ct: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2385-1/
[20:51] <k1l_> but the askubuntu site really explains that very good
[20:52] <will_> Hello
[20:53] <will_> any girl wanna join me drinking coffee
[20:53] <install001> Hello, I`ve tried to disable secure boot but the option does not exist and UEFI is also disabled, grub can`t install itself on mbr. Any ideas, sugestions?
[20:53] <k1l_> will_: this is not the right channel for this.
[20:54] <will_> I realized that
[20:54] <will_> thank you
[21:00] <EriC^^> install001: which partition table?
[21:00] <EriC^^> gpt?
[21:03] <install002> EriC^^: Did not understand the question...
[21:03] <Guest40782> hi all, I need hel with an ubuntu server 12.04, errors during boot are "mounted filesystem without journal" and "initctl event failed" can you help me?
[21:05] <EriC^^> install002: is the partition table mbr (msdos) or gpt ?
[21:05] <install002> EriC^^: msdos format
[21:05] <EriC^^> install002: ok, so how are you installing grub?
[21:05] <Es0teric> question -- when using a2enmod it works using the filename that was created in sites-available right?
[21:05] <EriC^^> ( msdos shouldn't have a problem with legacy booting, gpt needs a bios-boot partition )
[21:06] <install002> EriC^^: booted from the cd now trying to do grub-install --root-directory=mountedBootDir /dev/sdc
[21:06] <EriC^^> ok, did you chroot?
[21:06] <install002> EriC^^: no...
[21:06] <EriC^^> did you mount the /dev /sys etc. filesystems?
[21:07] <install002> EriC^^: also no...
[21:07] <EriC^^> ok,
[21:07] <EriC^^> so you mounted your ubuntu installation at /mnt ?
[21:07] <sunco50> Hey, I just ran sudo apt-get update and got this error message: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/trusty-getdeb/apps/binary-amd64/Packages  521  Origin Down [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[21:07] <sunco50> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/trusty-getdeb/games/binary-amd64/Packages  521  Origin Down [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[21:07] <sunco50> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/trusty-getdeb/apps/binary-i386/Packages  521  Origin Down [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[21:07] <sunco50> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/trusty-getdeb/games/binary-i386/Packages  521  Origin Down [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[21:07] <sunco50> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:07] <sunco50> What does it mean?
[21:07] <install002> EriC^^: only the boot
[21:07] <unopaste> sunco50 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:08] <EriC^^> install002: ok
[21:08] <install002> EriC^^: i`ll try mounting what you said was missing
[21:08] <Ben64> sunco50: we cannot support 3rd party repositories, you should check with getdeb
[21:08] <EriC^^> unmount the boot
[21:08] <EriC^^> umount /path/to/mountpoint
[21:09] <install002> ok
[21:09] <install002> EriC^^: ok
[21:09] <EriC^^> ok, mount the ubuntu installation at /mnt
[21:10] <install002> done
[21:10] <install002> EriC^^: done
[21:10] <EriC^^> ok, mount the boot partition at /mnt/boot
[21:11] <Nectar> Hi. when installing samba, should i plug an ethernet between the two computers or does i haveto go though a router?
[21:11] <install002> it seems to be in the same system (I did a reinstall early before)
[21:11] <install002> EriC^^: it-s in the same /mnt/boot so it`s ok
[21:11] <Ben64> Nectar: when installing samba, you don't need to worry about ethernet at all, to use samba, you do need a network. you can use a crossover cable to directly connect two computers, but using a router would be much easier
[21:12] <Siraris> I have always struggled with file permissions in Linux so I’m hoping someone can help me.  I’m trying to use fputcsv to write a csv to a directory.  The directory is /tmp/MyDir/mysubdir.  I first check if the directory exists using file_exists, and if not, mkdir the dir.  It says I don’t have permissions to create the directory. First of all, what does the permissions of MyDir need to be?  And second of all, who does the owner need to be?
[21:12] <Siraris> drw-rw-rw-  2 www-data www-data    4096 Oct 21 20:44 ParentDir this is the permissions of my parent dir that I’m trying to create a directory into
[21:13] <EriC^^> install002: ok, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[21:13] <Ben64> Siraris: what is the actual path, and you do need +x on a directory to properly use it
[21:13] <Nectar> Ben64: My router is abit out of the way, the computers are next to each other. ist a crossover cable an ethernet?
[21:14] <Siraris> Ben64: the path is /tmp/ParentDir
[21:14] <Ben64> Siraris: why are you doing this in /tmp ?
[21:14] <install002> EriC^^: done
[21:14] <Ben64> Nectar: not a standard ethernet cable
[21:14] <Siraris> Ben64: Why not?
[21:14] <EriC^^> install002: ok, sudo chroot /mnt
[21:15] <install002> EriC^^: done
[21:15] <Ben64> Siraris: because it is a temporary directory?
[21:15] <EriC^^> install002: grub-install --recheck /dev/sdx
[21:15] <Siraris> Ben64: This is for writing temporary files
[21:15] <install002> EriC^^: grub-install --recheck /dev/sdc
[21:15] <install002> Installing for i386-pc platform.
[21:15] <install002> Installation finished. No error reported.
[21:15] <Siraris> Ben64: I’m trying to write a csv temporarily to this dir and then delete it
[21:16] <EriC^^> install002: ok, update-grub
[21:16] <Ben64> Siraris: ok well you should re-read my first reply to you
[21:16] <install002> EriC^^: done
[21:16] <Siraris> Ben64: So do I do chmod u+x for the dir?
[21:16] <EriC^^> install002: ok, type exit
[21:16] <install002> EriC^^: ok
[21:17] <Buzhang> !ops
[21:17] <Ben64> Siraris: probably a+x
[21:17] <EriC^^> install002: sudo reboot
[21:17] <Buzhang> whats up mother fuckers
[21:17]  * Ben64 pokes k1l_
[21:17] <EriC^^> install002: the bios is set to boot /dev/sdc right?
[21:17] <ahsm> hey guys
[21:17] <Siraris> Ben64:  But that just 777’s it...
[21:17] <Buzhang> ahsm, what the fuck do you want?
[21:17] <install002> EriC^^: Yes, I`ll have to quit because the computer is going to reboot
[21:17] <Ben64> Siraris: correct
[21:17] <ahsm> I added conky to startup applications and added command conky-p10, just rebooted system and it didnt start at startup
[21:17] <EriC^^> install002: ok
[21:17] <Siraris> Why would I want to 777 it?
[21:17] <install002> EriC^^: thank you, brb
[21:18] <Ben64> Siraris: because you want to write to it from your user
[21:18] <Siraris> But isn’t 777 unsafe?
[21:18] <Ben64> depends what is in it really, 777 by itself isn't unsafe
[21:19] <bekks> Siraris: 777 is pretty much always the wrong approach.
[21:19] <Siraris> bekks: I agree
[21:19] <Ben64> its a folder in /tmp you're serving using http for a csv file, what is the problem?
[21:19] <Ben64> unless you want to make your user the owner of it, and make it 755 or something
[21:22] <Nectar> Ben64: Thanks
[21:29] <ahsm> I added conky to startup applications and added command conky-p10, just rebooted system and it didnt start at startup
[21:30] <ahsm> any ideas?
[21:30] <OerHeks> is that script eXecutable?
[21:31] <cryptic0> Why isn't setfacl working for me?  I get no errors, but permissions are not being set correctly.
[21:32] <EriC^^> cryptic0: which fs?
[21:32] <installer001> EriC^^: it worker, but the installation might have some problem...
[21:32] <installer001> EriC^^: thanks again
[21:32] <EriC^^> installer001: what do you mean?
[21:32] <cryptic0> EriC^^: ext4
[21:32] <EriC^^> installer001: no problem
[21:32] <installer001> EriC^^: I was installer002
[21:32] <EriC^^> yes i know
[21:32] <EriC^^> :)
[21:32] <EriC^^> what do you mean about the installation might have a problem though?
[21:33] <EriC^^> cryptic0: what's the command you're issuing?
[21:33] <geirha> cryptic0: And you've enabled acl on the filesystem?
[21:33] <geirha> (you have to enable it via the "acl" mount option)
[21:33] <cryptic0> EriC^^: sudo setfacl -R -d -m g:groupname:rwx /test
[21:34] <cryptic0> geirha: I assumed it was enabled since I didn't get an error
[21:36] <geirha> cryptic0: It's not, you have to add acl to the list of options in the fstab entry
[21:37] <EriC^^> cryptic0: which ubuntu is this?
[21:37] <cryptic0> EriC^^: latest 14.04 server
[21:38] <EriC^^> ok, i think it's not necessary
[21:38] <EriC^^> you could try to add it if you want
[21:39] <cryptic0> EriC^^: I added acl to the filesystem in /etc/fstab
[21:39] <cryptic0> how do I make that go into effect
[21:40] <EriC^^> cryptic0: you have to remount it i guess
[21:40] <cryptic0> so umount and then mount?
[21:41] <EriC^^> mount -o remount /
[21:41] <cryptic0> sudo mount -o remount /dev/sda4 /mountpoint  <- like that?
[21:41] <EriC^^> not necessary, sudo mount -o remount /mountpoint
[21:42] <cryptic0> ah ok
[21:42] <structuralist> does anyone know about haskell-platform? I installed it and "ghci" gives me "command not found", though ghc is fine
[21:44] <cryptic0> does not work
[21:44] <cryptic0> EriC^^: ^^
[21:44] <sogeking99> hey guys, i'm trying to write a cd for music, that will play on cd players. It seems that it writes data cd's? Do they work in cd players?
[21:45] <EriC^^> cryptic0: yeah
[21:45] <EriC^^> what's the exact command you're running?
[21:45] <EriC^^> ( the setfacl command )
[21:45] <cryptic0> sudo setfacl -R -d -m g:groupname:rwx /path/to/folder
[21:46] <cryptic0> then I go to /path/to/folder, and do mkdir blah, and it fails
[21:46] <navetz> sogeking99, some cd plays can play data cd's which can hold over a lot of songs. Others can only play certain formats which you have to burn as an audio cd. it can only hold 20-25 songs
[21:46] <cryptic0> EriC^^: drwxr-xr-x+ 2 root    root     4096 Oct 21 17:43 test
[21:46] <EriC^^> ok and mkdir inside of test doesn't?
[21:47] <cryptic0> EriC^^: nope
[21:48] <sogeking99> navetz, oh I see. I don't use cd's these days, a friend asked me to burn them to a cd for her. I worry that I'll waste the disks making a data disc.
[21:49] <Blaster> How can I make Ubuntu and RhythmBox stop freezing when I plug in my iPhone?  I only really want to charge it and it always messes my system up when I plug it in.
[21:49] <cryptic0> EriC^^: this is getfacl output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8619965/
[21:50] <navetz> sogeking99, if she is trying to use it in a car you should probably burn it as an audiocd
[21:51] <sogeking99> navetz, She uses it in a CD player which she has in her house.
[21:52] <cyphase> does anyone remember the name of that service that lets you redirect a port on their server to yourself through a nat?
[21:53] <cyphase> i think you connected to them, and the traffic was piped back to you through that
[21:54] <cyphase> i just can't remember the name
[21:54] <jhutchins> Blaster: What if you shut down rythymbox before you plug it in?
[21:55] <sogeking99> can ubuntu even burn audio cd's by default? I don't see the option.
[21:55] <Ben64> pretty much any burning software can do so
[21:55] <MagicSpud> hey I tried to change the skype icon using alacarte and it vanished!! how do i get it back???
[21:58] <MagicSpud> I tell you what then I tried...just to load the /usr/share/skype/avatars/skype.png icon but...it wont show!
[21:59] <sogeking99> wait a second. she said she usually takes them from the cd and puts them on her mp3. you think that means she can use data discs? or can you do that with audio discs?
[22:00] <Ben64> sogeking99: it would be quite silly to go from mp3->audio cd->mp3
[22:01] <sogeking99> yeah ok, it's really late so im going to do a data disc, which seems most logical as you pointed out. If I mess up I will reimburse her haha. Thanks.
[22:04] <sauce> hey, i have ubuntu server 12.04. I am missing /usr/bin/Mail.  so i tried to apt-get install update-alternatives, but the package doesn't exist. anyone know what i'm talkin about?
[22:10] <MagicSpud> there is a /usr/share/alacarte/ folder...but  I cant find there my customized shortcuts...where would I find my chosen preferences?
[22:11] <MagicSpud> I dont see that info stored in my home folder
[22:11] <MagicSpud> oh
[22:12] <MagicSpud> /home/me/.local/share/applications is that it?
[22:20] <akiva-thinkpad> how do I force install a deb I downloaded?
[22:20] <n1> hi all
[22:20] <n1> wow so much people
[22:20] <n1> how to install virtual box on kubuntu?
[22:20] <bekks> sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[22:21] <n1> 2 upgraded, 20 newly installed, 0 to remove and 324 not upgraded.
[22:21] <n1> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:21] <n1> E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
[22:21] <akiva-thinkpad> n1 open a terminal, and type "sudo apt-get install virtualbox"
[22:21] <akiva-thinkpad> thats is what he means.
[22:22] <akiva-thinkpad> n1, that may mean that you have another program trying to install software
[22:22] <n1> ah
[22:22] <n1> ok
[22:22] <n1> yes thats right
[22:22] <n1> im just not find virtualbox in muon discover
[22:22] <k1l_> you cant open the package system from multi apps. close all and just use the terminal for now
[22:23] <n1> yes. thanks alot.
[22:23] <n1> trying later
[22:24] <n1> so much people here
[22:24] <n1> im just moved from Mint
[22:24] <dagerik> my email is not showing up even after this message from msmtp: okt. 21 21:35:57 host=smtp.stud.ntnu.no tls=off auth=off<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>mailsize=131 smtpstatus=250 smtpmsg='250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as A806D916DF9' exitcode=EX_OK
[22:28] <n1> why I cant find Skype in Muon Discover
[22:29] <n1> sudo apt-get install skype
[22:29] <n1> Reading package lists... Done
[22:29] <n1> Building dependency tree
[22:29] <n1> Reading state information... Done
[22:29] <n1> E: Unable to locate package skype
[22:29] <unopaste> n1 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:29] <k1l_> !skype | n1
[22:29] <OerHeks> n1 enable 3th party stuff in muon > sources
[22:30] <n1> what URL?
[22:31] <n1> ok i got it
[22:31] <n1> thanks
[22:31] <n1> ubottu is a bot?
[22:31] <EriC^^> what is Muon Discovery?
[22:34] <k1l_> muon is the kde software center thingy
[22:34] <gstaniak> hi
[22:34] <EriC^^> oh ok
[22:34] <gstaniak> is there a way to install a firefox addon for all users in 14.04?
[22:44] <guest541> why ubuntu does not gparted installed by default?
[22:46] <akiva-thinkpad> Is there any file here that acts as a project file that I can open in an ide? http://i.imgur.com/5Oudqjz.png
[22:47] <Chotaz> Hey guys, anyone has any advice on an good utility for data recovery of half-broken or recently formatted HDDs?
[22:47] <EriC^^> Chotaz: testdisk
[22:48] <Bashing-om> mic-w: :)
[22:48] <Chotaz> EriC^^: does it come along with ubuntu? I'm going for a livecd boot
[22:49] <EriC^^> Chotaz: nope, sudo apt-get install testdisk
[22:49] <acerspyro> Keyboard = User?
[22:49] <acerspyro> "You are the interface"?
[22:49] <Chotaz> EriC^^: thanks mate, will be back in a bit
[22:49] <acerspyro> That's what it seems to be telling me when the live CD loads.
[22:49] <EriC^^> Chotaz: no problem
[22:50] <rww> acerspyro: "for accessibility options, press any key"
[22:50] <rww> acerspyro: it's not clear, i agree
[22:50] <acerspyro> oh
[22:50] <k1l_> acerspyro: it actually says: if you are a human beeing press a key
[22:50] <acerspyro> lol
[22:50] <acerspyro> Mystified me a lot
[22:50] <rww> acerspyro: we can't translate that screen though, so putting words on it is a bit of a problem
[22:50] <acerspyro> rww: Just put it in the 5 most common languages
[22:51] <acerspyro> one over the other
[22:51] <rww> I gather they didn't like that option. But yeah, that's what it means :)
[22:51] <acerspyro> rww: I am not disabled and idk what it means
[22:52] <acerspyro> do you expect someone who is disabled to understand it more?
[22:52] <ultrixx> today is utopic unicorn release day, right?
[22:52] <rww> no
[22:52] <rww> thursday
[22:53] <ultrixx> oh thanks
[22:53] <acerspyro> Monday, tuesday, uTpic unicorn release day, thursday, fiday...
[22:55] <rww> Ubuntu releases are always on Thursdays ;)
[22:59] <Linnak> hu, is there somthing that i miss when I want full working in vbox?
[22:59] <Linnak> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-x11
[23:00] <jhutchins> Linnak: If nobody here knows there's #vbox
[23:00] <Linnak> They don't know ubuntu
[23:01] <Linnak> ubuntu wrote those packages so this is the place where i have to ask
[23:04] <rww> Linnak: 1) is Ubuntu the guest or host? 2) if the guest, are you running a graphical desktop environment or commandline?
[23:04] <Linnak> 1 guest 2 gnome
[23:04] <rww> Linnak: just install virtualbox-guest-x11, it'll pull in what it needs
[23:05] <Linnak> ok thanks
[23:05] <fakam> Hi I am downloading Lubuntu, can you run gnome with lubuntu? and does lubuntu have all the hardware drivers as ubuntu does?
[23:05] <rww> (if I recall correctly, it pulls in the other two packages you mentioned too)
[23:05] <rww> fakam: Lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE desktop environment by default. Yes, you can switch it to GNOME (but you could also just get Ubuntu GNOME), and yes it has the exact same kernel/drivers.
[23:06] <fakam> yea but not a fan of unity
[23:06] <Stinky_Feet> Linnak: If Ubuntu is the guest, you can tell VirtualBox (on the host) to install the guest additions, but it will need the kernel headrs and minimal tool chain installled on the guest, because it will try to compile it on the fly.
[23:06] <fakam> ubuntu runs slow on my laptop
[23:07] <bekks> Linnak: And "they" know Ubuntu, they even provide official packages and installation instructions. I already gave you the link.
[23:07] <fakam> 4 gigs of memory  1.2ghz
[23:07] <rww> fakam: I said Ubuntu GNOME, not normal Ubuntu
[23:07] <acerspyro> Why doesn't Ubuntu come with Pavucontrol?
[23:07] <fakam> ahh
[23:07] <rww> fakam: http://ubuntugnome.org/
[23:07] <richac> acerspyro: you can just use alsamixer from terminal
[23:08] <fakam> i guess i will stick with lxde since its faster
[23:08] <acerspyro> richac: any normal user would install it right after the OS is done installing, or will be told to.
[23:08] <fakam> thanks rww
[23:08] <Linnak> bekks: I'm looking for the line which says use distro packages I read last week
[23:08] <Chotaz> EriC^^:  apt-get cant seem to find testdisk, is it not available on the general repos_
[23:08] <bekks> Linnak: There never was a line like that on the link I gave you.
[23:09] <EriC^^> Chotaz: try to add the universe repo
[23:09] <richac> acerspyro: i don't use it,   i do use the pulse audio equalizer though
[23:09] <Jeffrey_f> join #thunderbird
[23:10] <acerspyro> richac: And why would it not be included with pavucontrol???
[23:10] <acerspyro> Now if I want basic stuff I need to install a ton of things that should come with pulseaudio in the first place...
[23:11] <squinty> Jeffrey_f:  irc.mozilla.org   /join #thunderbird
[23:12] <Jeffrey_f> squinty: Yep. I knew what I wanted to type, my finger missed the slash
[23:12] <squinty> Jeffrey_f:  the offical thunderbird channel is on irc.mozilla.org not here on freenode
[23:13] <sjuxax> Suppose I want to wipe the only filesystem on the server but still be able to trigger a shutdown from the shell. It seems likely /sbin/shutdown is dynamically linked. How could I do this?
[23:14] <nuke1989>  i have only port 80 open and that cant be changed. So i want to make a server and route traffic through that server so that i can finally access whatever port i want. any help? :D
[23:14] <Jeffrey_f> Thanks squinty
[23:14] <EriC^^> sjuxax: ?
[23:14] <squinty>  Jeffrey_f: yw
[23:22] <sjuxax> EriC^^: I'm intentionally destroying the filesystem mounted at /. I want to turn off the machine after the carnage is complete. How do I do that, considering all shutdown binaries will be removed? I copied /sbin/shutdown into /tmp, but since it's dynamically linked, it will just be sad that its friends at /lib and/or /usr/lib aren't around anymore and will not actually shut off my machine.
[23:22] <daftykins> that doesn't sound like a legitimate problem.
[23:23] <rww> alt-sysrq-b
[23:23] <rww> or is it a remote server
[23:24] <Kawaiola> Would I run into any problems running server services on a desktop verzion of ubuntu
[23:24] <rww> It has security impact because you have more stuff running. Otherwise, no.
[23:25] <kbrosnan> and the desktop would be running so there would be less free ram and other system resources
[23:25] <Kawaiola> rww, Okay so less security, otherwise the services should work just the same?
[23:25] <rww> Kawaiola: yep
[23:26] <Kawaiola> I'm trying to make a web interface with wordpress that people in my house can access locally but I want to use elementary os gui .
[23:27] <Kawaiola> Can you download any desktop distro on top of ubuntu server?
[23:28] <rww> Elementary OS isn't Ubuntu, it's a derivative that we don't support.
[23:28] <EriC^^> Kawaiola: you can sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:28] <rww> You can install any desktop environment in our repositories just fine on Ubuntu Server, yes.
[23:29] <Kawaiola> EriC^^, rww I know it isn't Ubuntu but I figured they were pretty similar, and I had ubuntu-desktop but it had too much installed with it.
[23:31] <EriC^^> you can try xubuntu lubuntu ubuntu-gnome etc.
[23:32] <Kawaiola> EriC^^, I saw those as well as lxde, I guess I have just been real stuck on elementary os but if I can use it to run my lamp and samba services then I guess I don't need to install it on top of ubuntu server.
[23:33] <awesomess3> what games do you play?
[23:33] <richac> bf3, skyrim, mwo, rift
[23:33] <pkruz> can I use bootable pendrive with linux to install system on VBox?
[23:34] <awesomess3> richac, all of those on ubuntu?
[23:34] <EriC^^> pkruz: there's no need, you can use the .iso directly
[23:34] <richac> no all on windows lol
[23:34] <richac> on ubuntu  css and dota2 i guess
[23:37] <k1l_> awesomess3: for that sort of polls better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:37] <sjuxax> rww: it's remote
[23:37] <dreki> TF2, CS:GO, Xcom:enemy unknown, dota2 all work great for me on ubuntu.
[23:38] <dreki> Oh, I thought we were in offtopic
[23:45] <parshap> Does anyone know how to regenerate GraphicsMagick's type.mgk configuration file to include new system fonts?
[23:48] <tapout> when it comes to printers, how do we know if it's supported or not?
[23:48] <Magni> #argentina
[23:57] <squinty> tapout:  http://www.openprinting.org/printers
[23:59] <bubbasaures> tapout, Open printers and see if it is recognized.
[23:59] <Steven-mobile> when installing ubuntu on ssd, do i just want root / on my ssd and swap and home on my hdd?