[07:56] <delltony> question if i'm on a ati 9700 series for my lappy and ati has x.org 6.8 that is the correct driver i need right ?
[07:56] <bur[n] er> what app veristead ?
[07:56] <crimsun> Rods_Tiger: then enable the universe repo
[07:56] <StoffBox-Steve> i too veristead :) 3 weeks now ... love it, only kernel stuff, that sucks ^^
[07:57] <Rods_Tiger> crimsun, I've absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Explain.
[07:57] <Dr_willis> yonkeltron,  use the sound mixer and up the volumes.. be sure to check all the sliders.
[07:57] <veristead> the volume control app
[07:57] <bur[n] er> Rods_Tiger: search teh wiki for synaptic :)
[07:57] <veristead> and the one that shows in the panel doesn't work
[07:57] <Dr_willis> yonkeltron,  often the defaults are MUTED
[07:57] <veristead> i raise it and it jst goes back down
[07:57] <crimsun> Rods_Tiger: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniversePackages
[07:57] <veristead> and now it cnt find lperl
[07:57] <Dr_willis> i perfer the alsa-mixer myself over the gnome one.
[07:57] <veristead> what package is that in?
[07:58] <bur[n] er> Rods_Tiger: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto
[07:58] <yonkeltron> Dr_willis: no mixer elements found
[07:58] <veristead> crimsun: where is lperl
[07:58] <veristead> ?
[07:58] <bur[n] er> no idea what lperl is
[07:58] <crimsun> veristead: "lperl"?
[07:58] <pussfeller> how you list users in irsii
[07:58] <juan> hi guyz, i'm installing mplayer on hoary, but in the ./configure it says that I haven't oss (I have it and alsa) how can I deactivate oss? frot only use alsa and mplayer recognizes alsa... ?
[07:58] <crimsun> pussfeller: /names
[07:59] <pussfeller> danke
[07:59] <bur[n] er> pussfeller: or /who
[07:59] <yonkeltron> Dr_willis: how do i set the sudo password btw?
[07:59] <veristead> yea it says  "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl
[07:59] <crimsun> veristead: install libperl-dev
[07:59] <StoffBox-Steve> sudo pw is you userpw yonkeltron
[07:59] <juan> how can I deactivate oss? or I have to recompile the kernel... ?
[07:59] <LinuxJones> juan, gstreamer-properties
[07:59] <crimsun> juan: don't worry about it, just go ahead and compile mplayer
[07:59] <Dr_willis> yonkeltron,  its your users password
[08:00] <yonkeltron> stoffbox-stever...gotcha
[08:00] <goldfish> pussfeller: /n if you are lazy
[08:00] <juan> crimsun I compilet mplayer and I have to kill esd to listen de videos
[08:00] <LinuxJones> juan, sorry I have to learn to read more :D
[08:00] <karsten2> Where's ubuntu's iptables config by default?
[08:00] <juan> thanks LinuxJones
[08:00] <crimsun> juan: you could tell mplayer to use esd
[08:00] <hawke_> karsten: I don't think it has one by default
[08:00] <crimsun> juan: you could set it in the config file, or use -ao esd
[08:01] <juan> oh crimsun I see
[08:01] <juan> thanks :)
[08:01] <yonkeltron> Dr_willis: should i install something like discover to try and help me auto-setup the soundcard?
[08:02] <karsten2> hawke_: any recommendations on where to put it?
[08:02] <Dr_willis> i only use soundblaster cards and its seen them all on my 3 machines.. never had an issue.
[08:02] <Rods_Tiger> crimsun, bur[n] er, those urls can't be accessed - the browser is unable to verify the identity of www.ubuntulinux.org as a trusted site.
[08:02] <Dr_willis> work time for me.. byeee...
[08:02] <bur[n] er> yonkeltron: lspci - find out what kinda sound card;  lsmod - see if the module is loaded
[08:02] <crimsun> Rods_Tiger: then use http instead of https
[08:02] <hawke_> karsten: Perhaps /etc/network/ifup.d
[08:02] <bur[n] er> yonkeltron: also check to see that your user is in the 'audio' group
[08:02] <Rods_Tiger> crimsun, same url but http?
[08:03] <bur[n] er> Rods_Tiger: wtf browser are you using?
[08:03] <yonkeltron> Dr_willis: yeah:
[08:03] <yonkeltron> 0000:02:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs [SB Live! Value]  EMU10k1X
[08:03] <yonkeltron> 0000:02:02.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs [SB Live! Value]  Input device controller
[08:03] <Rods_Tiger> bur[n] er, "firefox"
[08:03] <bur[n] er> yonkeltron: see snd-emu10k1 or just emu10k1?
[08:03] <Rods_Tiger> crimsun, that worked. Thanks
[08:03] <yonkeltron> bur[n] er: have a look at what i pasted in....
[08:04] <tolstoy> folks, after today's updates, my mouse "disappears" over emacs windows when I do a new frame.  Anyone else get that?
[08:04] <macewan> bur[n] er: just installed sonance - for what it's worth
[08:04] <tolstoy> actually, the mouse is black, and so is the background of my emacs "new framed" windows.
[08:04] <bur[n] er> macewan: from ubuntu debs or source
[08:04] <macewan> source
[08:05] <karsten2> hawke_: I'm karsten2, not karsten
[08:05] <bur[n] er> cool, just curious
[08:05] <macewan> http://sonance.aaronbock.net/downloads/
[08:05] <hawke_> karsten2: sorry, autocompletion. :-/
[08:05] <karsten2> hawke_: I know ;-)
[08:05] <bur[n] er> macewan: i have the source ;)
[08:05] <karsten2> hawke_: I'm also karsten, but at home.
[08:05] <hawke_> karsten2: though I'd not be offended if you called me hawke ...which is me at home, hehe.
[08:06] <tolstoy> Interestingly, the main emacs window (from which I spawned frames) works okay: the mouse pointer has a white border around it.
[08:07] <macewan> hrm, i cvs'd gst-sharp & svn'd sonance
[08:07] <tolstoy> Must be an X thing.
[08:07] <karsten2> hawke_: Heh.
[08:07] <veristead> yay
[08:07] <veristead> got it
[08:08] <shock> is there a shell command to count the files in a directory?
[08:09] <tolstoy> ll | wc -l
[08:09] <tolstoy> ?
[08:09] <shock> mom
[08:09] <yonkeltron> Dr_willis: it's a dell machine. could that have something to do with it?
[08:09] <shock> ll - command not found
[08:09] <yonkeltron> should i run alsa-conf or something?
[08:09] <tolstoy> ls -l | wc -l
[08:09] <bur[n] er> ls -l |wc -l   (and minus 1)
[08:09] <bur[n] er> :)
[08:10] <hawke_> karsten2: On at least one machine, I just put the output of 'iptables-save' into a file, and manually restore that on bootup.
[08:10] <hawke_> karsten2: wouldn't be hard to script though
[08:10] <bur[n] er> so how do you subtract 1 from the output? ;)
[08:11] <bur[n] er> tolstoy: shock: ls | wc -l works better
[08:11] <erlend_> does anybody else have the problem that dvd's can only be burned at about half speed in linux ? i have tried using both cdrecord-prodvd and k3b
[08:11] <tolstoy> bur[n] er, weird.  doesn't count the directory?
[08:11] <mjr> *5*8
[08:12] <lunitik> bur[n] er: umm... not really... maybe 'ls | wc -w' ...
[08:12] <lunitik> providing no files have spaces...
[08:13] <lunitik> ls returns one line, but wc -l returns correct number? idgi
[08:14] <bur[n] er> tolstoy: ls -l has the total which it counts too which is a problem
[08:14] <bur[n] er> alias count="ls | wc -w"
[08:14] <bur[n] er> :)
[08:14] <tolstoy> bur[n] er, oh, right, but there's a switch to remove that somewhere.
[08:15] <Keithamus> Hello everyone!
[08:15] <Keithamus> I have come here to pick someones brains about a problem installing Ubuntu....
[08:15] <jon1012> hi everybody :)
[08:15] <delltony> anyone know where i might find a detailed (hold your hand) howto to setup the ati card on hoary i see the one on the forums speaking about XFree but I see nothing in regard to Xorg and I don't want to bork my system if i can help it :)
[08:15] <Rods_Tiger> what's recommended for allowing a browser to open pdfs?
[08:16] <juan> ajjj the ubuntu mirror is so slow :( I have a 1 mb connection and I'm downloading at
[08:16] <juan> 25% [7 Packages 95040/2210kB 4%]                                  13.2kB/s 2m40s
[08:16] <knoppix> howdy
[08:16] <juan> :''(
[08:16] <knoppix> anyone there
[08:16] <erlend_> Rods_Tiger, adobe reader?
[08:16] <StoffBox-Steve> *arg* this *ahh* fck samba :(
[08:16] <erlend_> Rods_Tiger, or gpdf
[08:16] <goldfish> acroreader
[08:16] <knoppix> does anyone know cpp really well?
[08:16] <mastertet> Hi, I have a problem with rythmbox, when I try to play radio, it crash!
[08:16] <knoppix> C++
[08:16] <erlend_> Rods_Tiger, uhm, i meant acroreader sorry
[08:16] <knoppix> i need C++ help
[08:16] <knoppix> :)
[08:16] <lunitik> knoppix: try #c++
[08:16] <knoppix> on this server?
[08:17] <lunitik> knoppix: yup
[08:17] <goldfish> yes
[08:17] <knoppix> kk thanks
[08:17] <Keithamus> my problem is that, when going through the install procedure of Ubuntu (4.10),  my screen displays stuff for less than a second, then goes off, and on again
[08:17] <Keithamus> keeps going to and fro showing stuff... as you can imagine it is quite irritating
[08:17] <bur[n] er> Keithamus: ? u think it's a problem with window manager? or X?
[08:17] <Keithamus> err
[08:18] <Keithamus> not sure, I dont know that much about linux, I would imagine X, seeing as it happens in the install procedure
[08:18] <Keithamus> as in, i load up the CD, boot and it happens
[08:18] <shock> <bur[n] er> - many thx!
[08:18] <lunitik> bur[n] er: during install... X is never used...
[08:18] <Symbiote> can someone tell me how to fix the lag problem i have on my freshly installed ubuntu i have in all games. if i set it to lower color like 565 then it works ok
[08:18] <StoffBox-Steve> someone an idea why Samba work fine, but after a restart the lan seems to be killed ?
[08:19] <bur[n] er> nah, iddn't know this was during install... assumed post-install ;)
[08:19] <bur[n] er> shock: thank you, that's a fun addition to my ~/.bashrc :)
[08:19] <juan> !!!
[08:19] <juan> I don't tolerate anymore that!! :(
[08:19] <Rods_Tiger> erlend_, I've just installed gpdf, but firefox is still complaining that the pdf could not be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist, and to change the association in my preferences. However, the preferences say absolutely nothing about pdfs or suchlike.
[08:20] <juan> 41% [5 Packages 573120/2210kB 25%]                                 7668B/s 3m33s   !!!!
[08:20] <erlend_> Rods_Tiger, install acroreader. you can find acroreader plugin for firefox also
[08:20] <juan> and I'm able to download at 115 kbps!
[08:20] <bur[n] er> Rods_Tiger: did you check the firefox associations?
[08:20] <erlend_> Rods_Tiger, i think you can read about it on www.ubuntuguide.org if i am not completely mistaken
[08:20] <juan> what's happen with the servers?
[08:20] <Symbiote> can someone help me set up an nvidia graphic card?
[08:21] <yonkeltron> i am really not pleased with ubuntu and hardware right now. it didn't detect my soundcard and it doesn't have the driver for my networked printer (HP Deskjet 6800)
[08:21] <lunitik> Symbiote: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:21] <juan> i'm downloading at 7 kbps! please
[08:21] <Symbiote> i tried that
[08:21] <Symbiote> nothing changed
[08:21] <lunitik> Symbiote: you restart X after you did it?
[08:21] <Symbiote> sure
[08:21] <juan> inacceptable
[08:21] <redissexy> the latest Ubuntu kernel has some problem with GTK+ threads? weird. I rebooted my install and now an application of mine (Ruby-GTK+) does not crash anymore...
[08:21] <Symbiote> well i did ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:21] <StoffBox-Steve> thats really hard juan
[08:22] <erlend_> Rods_Tiger, apt-get install acroread acroread-plugin
[08:22] <mastertet> so nobody knows how to deal with radio in rythmbox?
[08:22] <elvirolo_> !help
[08:22] <elvirolo_> crimmson gone ?
[08:22] <Rods_Tiger> bur[n] er, what are the firefox associations?
[08:22] <lunitik> juan: inacceptable is unacceptable  ;)
[08:22] <juan> lunitik yea
[08:22] <lunitik> mastertet: apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:22] <juan> so speak spanish :)
[08:23] <bur[n] er> go to "edit -> preferences" then "Downloads" then look for "File Types" in the right pane
[08:23] <Symbiote> lunitik, my graph card is kinda outdated but still it should run games like UO normally :/
[08:23] <mastertet> thanks lunitik!
[08:23] <juan> I want to see how can you speak spanish lunitik :)
[08:23] <Rods_Tiger> erlend_, type that in a terminal?
[08:23] <veristead> ok... so what is a good DVD player app for Ubuntu?
[08:23] <erlend_> Rods_Tiger, well or start synaptic. search for acroread. install it + the plugin. then you should be set !
[08:23] <veristead> the totem movie player seemingly isn't working
[08:23] <Rods_Tiger> erlend_, typing that in doesn't work
[08:23] <veristead> and if someone else has a suggestion that would be cool
[08:24] <erlend_> Rods_Tiger, "sudo apt-get install acroread-plugin"
[08:24] <Rods_Tiger> erlend_, it's not in synaptic either
[08:24] <Keithamus> so yea, like I say; booting the install CD, when it gets to language selection, the display keeps going off and on. Anyone got any ideas/solutions please?
[08:24] <jon1012> (I know that it's not the right place for this, but as the ubuntu user are gnome 2 user, I just wanted to say that I'm searching for beta-testers for the Appliworks software ( http://appliworks.jondesign.net ))
[08:24] <lunitik> juan: je ne habla espanyol   :(
[08:24] <Rods_Tiger> erlend_, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:24] <Rods_Tiger> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:24] <goldfish> Rods_Tiger: you are using apt-get at same time
[08:24] <veristead> anyone?
[08:25] <Rods_Tiger> goldfish, I was just told to
[08:25] <veristead> a good DVD player program for Ubuntu Linux
[08:25] <lunitik> veristead: that is in the wiki
[08:25] <erlend_> Rods_Tiger, to fix your problem without having to ask a lot of questions: read about it on www.ubuntuguide.org . it is explained perfectly :)
[08:25] <goldfish> Rods_Tiger: Oh right, u cant use apt-get and synaptic at the same time.
[08:25] <jon1012> veristead > try to reinstall gstreamer  (if you are working with totem-gstreamer), or maybe, switch to totem-xine and install xine
[08:26] <veristead> jon1012 it's gstreamer. is that in a package on synaptic
[08:26] <juan> lunitik I just want to say the ubuntu server are suc*ing 'cause I can download at 115 kbps and only i'm downloading from ubuntu servers at 7 kbps... I think it's ...
[08:26] <juan> server*
[08:26] <jon1012> veristead > ok, so maybe you could try to switch to totem-xine and install xine ?
[08:26] <veristead> jon1012 if so which package
[08:26] <juan> 959B/s 14s !!!!
[08:26] <juan> 0.9 kbps!
[08:27] <veristead> ok... where can i get it?
[08:27] <jon1012> using synaptic ;)
[08:27] <lunitik> juan: try a different mirror? its a sign that Ubuntu is getting more popular... else that that box sucks  (the one hosting the files)
[08:27] <jon1012> sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[08:27] <Keithamus> is anyone available to help me with my problem pls?
[08:27] <juan> lunitik I tried my country mirror and the official mirror
[08:28] <jon1012> veristead> sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[08:28] <StoffBox-Steve_> -- i make a new kernel, on the with the new one it seems to work but after the "booting the kernel" its stop .. normaly "starting ubuntu" comes up.... andy ideas ?
[08:28] <veristead> yep got it jon1012
[08:28] <veristead> thanx
[08:28] <veristead> 900kbps
[08:28] <veristead> and jst about done
[08:28] <jon1012> you're welcome ;)
[08:28] <yonkeltron> Dr_willis: the volume applet in the panel will not even allow me to raise the volume!
[08:29] <veristead> oops there are two files to download
[08:29] <veristead> 1s remaining
[08:29] <juan> fucking freesoft... 'cause I don't pay.. I can't get a ubuntu package... the slowness is coverting Ubuntu inusable
[08:29] <jon1012> veristead > I have to go to eat
[08:30] <veristead> k... now that i have totem-xine how do i launch it
[08:30] <veristead> where did it download + install to
[08:30] <veristead> ?
[08:30] <Jon1012-Away> launch it via command line ;)
[08:30] <Jon1012-Away> totem-xine
[08:30] <Jon1012-Away> to try it
[08:30] <juan> veristead ! synaptic! apt
[08:30] <devdude> anyone know when hoary stable will be released?
[08:30] <Keithamus> veristead, i think most apps that u install go to /usr/bin/
[08:30] <juan> or, if u want, compile it
[08:31] <Keithamus> devdude around April sometime
[08:31] <juan> devdude april :) 5.04 (2005-april)
[08:31] <devdude> thanks
[08:32] <Keithamus> so yea, can anyone help with my monitor troubles please?
[08:32] <Keithamus> the display only stays on for less than 1 second, then it comes back on, goes off, on, off on etc etc
[08:32] <Keithamus> when I am in the installer for the distro that is
[08:32] <scizzo> Keithamus: restart X
[08:33] <veristead> woah
[08:33] <veristead> requests alot of CPU to play my DVD
[08:33] <Keithamus> scizzo, it is when I am in the installer
[08:33] <veristead> and no volume
[08:33] <Xappe> hmm, i'm stuck with firestarter...and when it's enabled it won't let me use internet at all...thought that it should be restrictive only for incoming connections...
[08:33] <scizzo> Keithamus: ummm....sounds weird
[08:33] <StoffBox-Steve_> noone an idea ? :(
[08:33] <Keithamus> scizzo > vry...
[08:34] <veristead> how do i eject a removable storage
[08:34] <Keithamus> scizzo, my monitor seems to be problematic usually, it didnt work with MEPIS because MEPIS default res is 1024x768@70hz, which my monitor cant do
[08:34] <Keithamus> but this is alot weirder
[08:35] <veristead> how do i eject a file?
[08:35] <scizzo> I have no idea
[08:35] <Xappe> a can't see where to set rules for outgoing connections...and when I read the online help (with the firewall off, because it won't let me connect to http) the y claim that it should allow me to do whatever...
[08:35] <veristead> er... CD
[08:35] <veristead> i have a DVD in there but how do i eject it?
[08:36] <scizzo> veristead: its not listed on the desktop?
[08:36] <cybane> YAY! I have the time for my interview and it is tomorrow!
[08:36] <lavigj> hey guys, quick question: what am I trying to do (so I can look for info) if I want to remove duplicate entries in a log file. aka, I want a list of everyone who's logged in, but I don't want the duplicates of that list
[08:36] <veristead> yea it is
[08:36] <veristead> but how do i eject it
[08:36] <veristead> ?
[08:36] <Keithamus> does anyone know what the resolution and hz are set to for the ubuntu installer then?
[08:36] <veristead> scizzo: it is but i cnt eject it
[08:36] <lavigj> veristead: right click it and select eject?
[08:37] <yonkeltron> where can i stop the filemanager from opening new windows for each folder?
[08:37] <veristead> doh
[08:37] <scizzo> veristead: right click and eject?
[08:37] <RainMoods> hi all
[08:37] <hubert> hi! where in ubuntu is located grub.conf ?
[08:37] <veristead> yep
[08:37] <veristead> i got it
[08:37] <veristead> lol
[08:37] <lavigj> veristead: it needs to unmount. right click/eject unmounts it and also ejects it
[08:37] <veristead> du!
[08:37] <veristead> yep got it
[08:37] <lavigj> veristead: :)
[08:37] <HcE> hubert: configuration to grub is usually in /boot/grub/
[08:37] <veristead> next step... audio..
[08:37] <veristead> how do i get audio to work?
[08:38] <veristead> i am using an iBook
[08:38] <lavigj> veristead: good luck :) mine just worked...
[08:38] <veristead> and it seems to need a driver or something
[08:38] <RainMoods> my printer tells me it's paused... when I click resume it goes back to paused
[08:38] <RainMoods> what to do?
[08:38] <veristead> click pause
[08:38] <veristead> maybe it will resume
[08:38] <hubert> HcE: there is no such file in this directory on my system
[08:38] <veristead> :-P
[08:38] <veristead> lavigj how did you get the sound to work?
[08:39] <Keithamus> hubert, why not search for it using the file manager search function?
[08:39] <HcE> hubert: tried running "update-grub"?
[08:39] <lavigj> veristead: mine just worked. my laptop has an intel chipset, and my desktop is sound blaster
[08:39] <lavigj> veristead: I didn't have to do anything special
[08:39] <ycco> anyone know how I can get a user to log in to say: F8 instead of F7?
[08:40] <ycco> I want to have X running on both F7 as well as F8
[08:40] <hubert> HcE: thanks, update-grub found my new kernel and installed it
[08:40] <HcE> hihi
[08:40] <RainMoods> that does not work... it worked till this morning when I did an upgrade..
[08:40] <HcE> hubert: now you can look in /boot/grub/
[08:40] <lavigj> ok, I grepped a log file to get every line that has "Login". how do I get rid of duplicate logins now?
[08:40] <ycco> bbiab
[08:41] <hubert> HcE: no such file still
[08:41] <Pluk> ycco edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[08:41] <bur[n] er> anyone know if there are ways to make 'x' aliases?  like to make a special aterm, so when i did alt+f2 and typed "aterm" it would be my cool "aterm -T irssi blah blah blah" ??
[08:41] <HcE> hubert: strange, try to locate or find|grep for it
[08:41] <HcE> hubert: it's called menu.lst in my system
[08:42] <styx2005> how can i change boot order in grub?
[08:42] <jesus_detached> i could use the "screen resolution" button before I used the fglrx driver for my ATI, but now I can only switch resolutions by pressing ctrl+alt+<+>
[08:42] <yonkeltron> why doesn't ubuntu have standard package repositories? i can't apt-get cmucl or anything like that!
[08:42] <HcE> styx2005: alter the value of "default"
[08:42] <RainMoods> cant wait longer, will search further for my silly paused printer problem
[08:42] <hubert> HcE: that's it, menu.1st I got it too
[08:42] <HcE> styx2005: the first kernel in the list is 0
[08:42] <styx2005> HcE in where?
[08:42] <hubert> thanks
[08:43] <HcE> styx2005: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:43] <HcE> I've been hacking with grub all this week ;)
[08:43] <styx2005> HcE i'll try it
[08:43] <Pluk> yonkeltron, cmucl is in universe.. edit /etc/apt/sources.list to have access to universe
[08:45] <yonkeltron> Pluk: and what about my soundcard? i'm not very impressed with ubuntu right now
[08:47] <Pluk> yonkeltron, your using warty?
[08:47] <yonkeltron> Pluk: yeah. 4.10
[08:47] <Pluk> what soundcard?
[08:47] <yonkeltron> creative soundblaster live
[08:48] <Pluk> lsmod |grep emu10k1
[08:49] <Pluk> does that give anything/
[08:49] <Echylo> hmm where can I find information about how viruses work? i mean source code stuff, and no I won't create one, too stupid for it
[08:49] <Echylo> or it would be stupid
[08:50] <Echylo> I hate them
[08:50] <lavigj> anyone here good and working with log files?
[08:50] <Pluk> or does lsmod list emu10k1.. cuz it might be case sensitive
[08:50] <goldfish> Echylo: Google.
[08:50] <yonkeltron> Pluk: no...should i apt-get install discover? it couldn't hurt
[08:50] <prats> hi. somebody help me install thunderbird?
[08:51] <Echylo> what is google, never heard of
[08:51] <Echylo> you think I ain't using it :&
[08:51] <scizzo> Echylo: www.google.com
[08:51] <Echylo> oow that google
[08:51] <Echylo> :s
[08:51] <scizzo> Echylo: start using search engines
[08:51] <Echylo> I am
[08:52] <Pluk> yonkeltron, modprobe snd-emu10k1
[08:52] <findeton> _Hi
[08:52] <mastertet> The audio preview in nautilus is not working on my warty, is this a feature only available under Hoary?
[08:52] <Pluk> but it shouldve detected it at boot
[08:52] <goldfish> Echylo: Are you looking for any virus in particular?
[08:52] <Pluk> brb
[08:52] <devo> maybe someone can help me with a mandrake 10 problem.  i tried to install a cable modem and it seems to have made it such that the ppp connection no longer works (although it still can dialup and connect!).  i run the browser and the pages won't load.  i'm flumoxed.
[08:52] <findeton> I have Hoary installed in my system and I'm having problem umounting my cdrom device
[08:52] <goldfish> Echylo: Or just viruses in general?
[08:53] <findeton> umount /media/cdrom0
[08:53] <findeton> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[08:53] <findeton> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[08:53] <styx2005> which p2p client to use with uuntu?
[08:53] <goldfish> amule
[08:53] <lavigj> findeton: if any window is open to that, you won't be able to
[08:53] <Echylo> in general
[08:54] <Echylo> specific worms
[08:54] <Echylo> I like to learn about them
[08:54] <Echylo> just the way they work :)
[08:54] <goldfish> in general, specific worms :)
[08:54] <yonkeltron> Pluk: nothing
[08:54] <Echylo> yea I know
[08:54] <Echylo> sorry
[08:54] <yonkeltron> Pluk: don't even have a mixer!
[08:54] <goldfish> Echylo: np :)
[08:55] <findeton> lavigj: no one opened. but I forgot to mention that I'm using kde (gnome is inexplicably slow)
[08:55] <lavigj> findeton: hmm. not sure theyn
[08:55] <devo> on mandrake 10 my cable modem installation attempt seems to have nuked my ppp connection.  it dials up and connects but the browser will not load pages.  any help would be appreciated.
[08:56] <neom> Does anyone know the name of the config file that contains the location of the server root for apache. Mine points to /var/www and I want to change that.
[08:56] <findeton> lavigj: ehm, I'm curious, why doesn't ubuntu use something like automount by default or something?
[08:57] <lavigj> findeton: I thought it did, but I am very new to ubuntu and even linux in general :)
[08:59] <findeton> lavigj: ah ok thanks anyway =)
[08:59] <yonkeltron> Pluk: any ideas?
[08:59] <Amaranth> it does automount
[08:59] <Amaranth> well, it does with gnome, anyway
[08:59] <Amaranth> gnome-volume-manager does it, iirc
[09:00] <lavigj> findeton: is there a particular error message you get when you try to unmount it?
[09:01] <isakn> which file system would be the smartest to use when installing ubuntu?
[09:01] <isakn> like reiserfs or what they all are called :)?
[09:01] <findeton> ahm let me try. I'm trying to do this in my brother's machine. it seems that he mounted the cd in gnome. gnome was becaming slower and slower and he switched to kde and now we're trying to umount it right from kde with the umount command
[09:02] <findeton> lavigj: umount /media/cdrom0
[09:02] <findeton> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[09:02] <findeton> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[09:02] <LinuxJones> isakn, I like ext3
[09:02] <LinuxJones> isakn, I't's very reliable
[09:02] <robodex> I have the same problem in warty with DVDs; it'll spin them and read them for about 5 minutes then spit out an error
[09:02] <lavigj> findeton: it might be because of that gnome thing. for whatever reason, the system thinks that's in use
[09:02] <isakn> alright, but, hmm - what's the difference actually?
[09:03] <lavigj> findeton: I am not sure if you can for umount something
[09:03] <findeton> lavigj: in fact this is what I get when I try to launch gnome-volume-manager from the cmd:
[09:03] <findeton> gnome-volume-manager
[09:03] <findeton> ** (gnome-volume-manager:26779): WARNING **: manager.c/1230: already running?
[09:03] <karsten2> What's the recommended firewall package?  I'm NATing for a small (< dozen) set of hosts between two nonroutable nets.  Institutional setting.
[09:03] <isakn> i heard about somebody whos file became smaller because of a filesystem shift (this is not a fact, but i slightly remember it). do you know anything about that LinuxJones?
[09:03] <findeton> should I kill the process?
[09:04] <karsten2> ...and I'd like mostly a simple NAT firewall that comes up when network starts.  I'm DHCPd from upstream, I DHCP host for downstream.
[09:04] <lavigj> findeton: take this with a big grain of salt, but if you are in KDE I don't see where the gnome file manager should matter much
[09:04] <lavigj> findeton: you can probably kill it and then unmount
[09:04] <yonkeltron> does ubuntu use alsa?
[09:04] <stefan_hb> vxc
[09:04] <findeton> ok let's try
[09:05] <lavigj> yonkeltron: esound, afaik
[09:05] <igors> da
[09:05] <karsten2> Is shorewall the ubuntu FW package?
[09:05] <yonkeltron> lavigj: then is there an esound config app? my soundcard doesn't work
[09:05] <lunitik> karsten2: you can use it to get a starting point for your iptables rules, sure...
[09:05] <karsten2> lunitik: Does it run console?
[09:05] <hubert> hi again, I compiled the linux kernel 2.6.10 and installed it, but I cannot boot it because I get 'kernel panic not syncing VFS unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)'. can this be caused because of lack of initrd file for this kernel in /boot directory?
[09:05] <StoffBox-Steve> one of them :) karsten, im using Firestarter
[09:06] <karsten2> StoffBox-Steve: I'm karsten2
[09:06] <karsten2> StoffBox-Steve: OK.
[09:06] <lavigj> yonkeltron: ah, not sure. I assume you've checked the modules?
[09:06] <findeton> bah, no luck. the device is still "busy"
[09:06] <StoffBox-Steve> *ups* sry karsten2 :D
[09:06] <jesus_detached> Where cvan I chose my refresh rate of my screen? I can't use "screen resolution" anymore now I use the fglrx driver
[09:06] <yonkeltron> lavigj: yeah and Pluk helped me a little bit. it doesn't even pick up a mixer!
[09:06] <lavigj> findeton: shoot, not sure then
[09:06] <lavigj> yonkeltron: does lspci show the device?
[09:07] <karsten2> StoffBox-Steve: NP.
[09:07] <yonkeltron> lavigj: yes. would you like to see?
[09:07] <karsten2> StoffBox-Steve: I'm also karsten, but I'm not myself right now.
[09:07] <Xappe> StoffBox-Steve, then perhaps you can tell me what i'm doing wrong w/ firestarter. it won't let me connect to anything...and I don't know how to configure it to do that...
[09:07] <jesus_detached> I also have this screen that doesn't fit, whenever I move to the side of my screen it scrolls, and I don't remember how to turn it off in xorg
[09:07] <findeton> uhm, well I must go. bye thanks for the help !
[09:07] <lavigj> yonkeltron: no, unfortunately I am not sure what to tell you
[09:07] <stazich> hey
[09:07] <lavigj> yonkeltron: I was hoping that maybe it wasn't seated right or something :)
[09:07] <StoffBox-Steve> make kernels is so boring :S
[09:08] <stazich> can anyone helop me? im trying to boot a power pc ubuntu linux cd on my iMac, but it does not seem to work, anyone have a clue what it could be? i keep holding the ctrl key while booting but it still takes me to Debian which i hae installed right now
[09:08] <Jet2k5> hello anyone here have a scanner?
[09:08] <yonkeltron> lavigj: no it's fine.....i'm not very impressed by ubuntu right now. everyone in here said that it would work right out of the box and all that. then everyone promised me that they would help me fix it. been waiting here going in circles for half an hour! i feel rather cheated
[09:09] <stazich> yonkeltron, switch edition ;-)
[09:09] <lavigj> yonkeltron: sorry man, I am pretty new to linux and especially ubuntu.
[09:09] <cybane> Does ubuntu mount USB drives automatically
[09:09] <Jet2k5> I can't get ubuntu to pick up my scanner
[09:09] <yonkeltron> stazich: meaning?
[09:09] <Jet2k5> everytimet that I run xsane it can't detect it
[09:09] <tremor> cybane: yes
[09:09] <Jet2k5> how do I change that?
[09:10] <lavigj> Jet2k5: did you check the SANE webpage to be sure yours is supported?
[09:10] <Jet2k5> yeah it's worked with Mandrake and Arch Linux
[09:10] <hawke_> yonkeltron: I doubt anyone "promised" that to you.
[09:10] <stazich> just kidding.. what i mean is dont complain.. it was ur own choice to take on ubuntu, noone signed an agreement with you to support anything.. i am in same situation ...
[09:10] <elvirolo> crimsun, hi there, i'm back (with the sound prob)
[09:10] <Jet2k5> lavigj: I thought ubuntu would pick it up right away, so I don't know what files to modify
[09:10] <yonkeltron> hawke_: yeah actually.....hiddenwolf promised me....
[09:10] <lavigj> Jet2k5: ah, ok. sorry, I don't know much about scanners under linux, except that mine doesn't work under SANE :)
[09:10] <elvirolo> crimsun, i did the test and it did not worl :(
[09:10] <yonkeltron> stazich...yeah i know.
[09:11] <StoffBox-Steve> *args* samba piss me on.... why the fck its dosnt work anymore :( didnt change anythink ..
[09:11] <Jet2k5> err anybody know?
[09:11] <GarySaved> O.K.  I have ubuntu installed on my system ...
[09:11] <stazich> can anyone helop me? im trying to boot a power pc ubuntu linux cd on my iMac, but it does not seem to work, anyone have a clue what it could be? i keep holding the ctrl key while booting but it still takes me to Debian which i hae installed right now
[09:11] <hawke_> yonkeltron: Oh. Sorry.
[09:12] <hawke_> stazich: hold down c
[09:12] <ompaul> yonkeltron, I did not see your initial issue - I have been eating and resting - what is your particular issue, I am not suggesting I can solve it but I might be able to help
[09:12] <GarySaved> I am running an Athelon.
[09:12] <GarySaved> I downloaded the k7 kernel, how do I switch to it?
[09:13] <hawke_> GarySaved: Choose it on boot in the menu
[09:13] <GarySaved> I do not get a menu.
[09:13] <MaxeyPad> is it possible to get 5.1 sound for dvd playback under linux
[09:13] <yonkeltron> ompaul: thank you. that is very kind of you. lspci sees my soundcard (creative soundblaster live) and the kernel module (snd-emu10k1) is loaded. no sound, no mixer, no nothing
[09:13] <StoffBox-Steve> when you run grub and the kernel is install in /boot run grub-update it normaly find it that reboot choose it .. when the grub menu dosnt come up press esc at startup  GarySaved
[09:14] <lavigj> is anyone here skilled at extracting data from log files?
[09:14] <karsten2> OK, can someone walk me through a shorewall setup?
[09:14] <karsten2> lavigj: man grep
[09:14] <lunitik> karsten2: step 1: apt-get install firestarter
[09:15] <karsten2> lunitik: advantages over shorewall?
[09:15] <Jet2k5> is there any developers in here?
[09:15] <ompaul> yonkeltron, start a terminal, then start alsamixer, then play with the volume meters - one thing that might impact this however is if you have an inbuild sound card in which case try disabling it in the bios but ye ole alsamixer is good
[09:15] <lavigj> karsten2: already did and used that. I have a list of logins, but now I am trying to get a list of just the unique ones.
[09:15] <lunitik> karsten2: it doesn't require you to know something about iptables?
[09:15] <karsten2> lavigj: sort -u
[09:15] <lavigj> karsten2: instead of 4000 lines of repeating data
[09:15] <Jet2k5> no offence but every time I come in here I sorta never get help
[09:15] <lavigj> karsten2: ok
[09:15] <lunitik> karsten2: and it has a pretty GUI and stuff
[09:15] <StoffBox-Steve> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :: need root privileges make: *** [kernel-image-deb]  Fehler 1 << why the fck this come up at the end of compile ? why not at start ...
[09:16] <Jet2k5> and I'm not a linux n00b, but just can't exect better for them
[09:16] <karsten2> lunitik:  console only and I know a thing or two about firewalls/iptables.
[09:16] <yonkeltron> ompaul: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[09:16] <ompaul> lavigj, put it in a spreadsheet and pull out unique ids via advanced filters
[09:16] <lunitik> karsten2: shorewall is basically just a starting point for iptables settings... not really anything more afaik
[09:16] <ompaul> yonkeltron, ooch
[09:16] <ompaul> yonkeltron, but not all is lost
[09:16] <ompaul> :)
[09:16] <MaxeyPad> IPKungfu is an excellent, easy to use bash script that creates iptables rules for you.
[09:17] <lavigj> ompaul: hadn't thought of that, but it might work
[09:17] <hawke_> ompaul: the driver's not detecting the card...
[09:17] <yonkeltron> ompaul: you fill me with hope. it's a pci card
[09:17] <karsten2> lunitik: Yeah, a bunch of template files.  Not a bad organization though.
[09:17] <MaxeyPad> you might want to check that out http://www.linuxkungfu.org/
[09:17] <karsten2> lavigj: You got that?
[09:17] <lavigj> sort -u?
[09:18] <karsten2> lavigj: Yeah.  Sorts input to unique occurances.
[09:18] <karsten2> lavigj: If you'd describe what you're doing specifically I can offer better guidance.
[09:18] <ompaul> hawke_, true - however I would like to know what it is trying to pick up :)
[09:18] <karsten2> lavigj: awk '/pattern/ {print <columns>}'  | sort -u  is a generally useful recipie.
[09:18] <lavigj> karsten2: yeah, and I think it worked, however it is picking up dates as well. basically, I have a file full of login occurences that i grepped from the logfiles for sendmail. I am trying to wind up with just a list of users who have logged into send mail
[09:19] <karsten2> lavigj: ^^
[09:19] <lavigj> karsten2: I will check that
[09:19] <lavigj> thanks
[09:19] <Naos> Hi all
[09:19] <karsten2> lavigj: You can cut through your columns with awk or cut.
[09:19] <karsten2> Naos: He left.
[09:20] <lavigj> karsten2: thanks, I will do some man awk and man cut action and see what I can do
[09:20] <schasi> switch on nmap for os detection please
[09:20] <hawke_> ompaul: I'm curious to hear the solution to yonkeltron's sound problem if you come up with anything..
[09:20] <schasi> Dont get it found
[09:22] <karsten2> lavigj: Post if you've got questions.   You can use #flood as well for longer stuff.
[09:23] <lavigj> karsten2: thanks, it is greatly appreciated
[09:24] <karsten2> lavigj: NP. I'm in middle of stuff, may take a minute to see you.
[09:24] <stazich> hey does anyone know a FTP Debian archive mirror hostname
[09:24] <stazich> ?
[09:25] <hawke_> stazich: ftp.us.debian.org ?
[09:25] <macewan> bur[n] er: Sonance works fine on Hoary
[09:25] <karsten2> stazich: http://www.debian.org/.  Mirrors listed there.
[09:25] <delltony> hey man
[09:25] <stazich> thx
[09:26] <stazich> how come i need debian mirrors installing ubuntu?>
[09:26] <delltony> it might kill me but i'm gonna get this tvout to work :)
[09:26] <hawke_> stazich: You shouldn't.
[09:27] <stazich> im already there :(
[09:27] <delltony> anyone have any idea how to get screen resolution back ?
[09:27] <stazich> dont know where in the process i went wrong
[09:28] <StoffBox-Steve> its normaly that it come at the installer stazich
[09:28] <RainMoods> delltony, go to System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[09:29] <delltony> this sucks if i use the ubuntu supplied ati fglrx my glxgears reports only 362.600 fps but if i use the new driver from ati its more like 4768.400 fps
[09:29] <delltony> but i can't change screen resolution :( evidently i setup fglxconfig wrong
[09:30] <RainMoods> delltony: you have upgraded to hoary?
[09:30] <delltony> yeah i use hoary
[09:30] <StoffBox-Steve> try make a working kernel ..will kill me i think :(
[09:30] <delltony> yeah i know about the xorg.conf file
[09:30] <RainMoods> and everything worked fine under warty?
[09:30] <encryptio> delltony: added your resolutions there?
[09:30] <delltony> well warty was fun xorg was fine but i'm trying somethign different
[09:31] <hawke_> delltony: what are you trying?
[09:31] <RainMoods> delltony: I had/have issues with xorg - now I am back to xfree86
[09:31] <delltony> the new ati driver
[09:31] <StoffBox-Steve> so and so RainMoods.. must work fine
[09:31] <delltony> not the ubuntu one
[09:32] <styx2005> i've got no sound in flashplayer
[09:32] <RainMoods> I have printer problems at this moment. When I wnat to print, it says that the printer is 'paused'. when I hit the 'resume' button, it still does not work. And my printing always worked ..
[09:32] <hawke_> delltony: what did you do to install the ati driver?
[09:33] <iftrouble> can anyone recommend me an app for debian/ubuntu similar to redhat's netconfig which  does NOT depend on gnome/kde/webmin? a tool that does not require editing config files by hand!
[09:33] <delltony> i can pm you my install notes if you would like
[09:34] <iftrouble> what?
[09:34] <OmniColossus> <--needs help authing with 802.1x eap-ttls
[09:34] <RainMoods> StoffBox-Steve: what must work fine? xorg? I didnt get it working...
[09:34] <delltony> just let me know if youw ant them hawke_
[09:35] <RainMoods> Anyone here can help me with my print problems?
[09:36] <StoffBox-Steve> RainMoods dont see xorg was the theme, was an common info, by me xorg didnt work 2
[09:37] <StoffBox-Steve> but i try it only one time ... fighting sence a week with kernel making
[09:39] <hawke_> RainMoods: I have no idea what the problem would be...does browsing to localhost:631 and choosing printers give any more detail?
[09:39] <lavigj> karsten2: just so you know, I really appreciate the help with this all, but I (somewhat abashedly) realized it would be easier to import the data into a spreadsheet
[09:40] <RainMoods> hawke_: I get a page from The Common UNIX Printing System
[09:40] <hawke_> RainMoods: Yep.
[09:40] <hawke_> RainMoods: can you go to "manage printers"?
[09:41] <StoffBox-Steve> when i have a kernel_path folder in src and make the kernel with make-dpkg  it automatic path ?
[09:41] <png`> i need to start a program at startup. where can i add it from console
[09:42] <RainMoods> hawke_: yes I can go to manage printers
[09:42] <hawke_> RainMoods: And does your printer show up there?
[09:42] <RainMoods> hawke_: yes, it shows up there
[09:42] <hawke_> RainMoods: and if so, what status message does it give?
[09:43] <RainMoods> hawke_: it states:  Printer State: stopped, accepting jobs.
[09:43] <HrdwrBoB> iftrouble: why exactly?
[09:44] <HrdwrBoB> iftrouble: I don't beleive there is
[09:44] <ompaul> hawke_ well we tried a few little bits but at the end of the day hoary will be tried :0
[09:45] <hawke_> ompaul: thanks..I kinda thought so, :-/
[09:45] <hawke_> RainMoods: does clicking start printer do any good? I'm guessing not..
[09:45] <ompaul> cdrecord dev=0,1,0 -pad driveropts=burnfree hoary-install-i386.iso  <-- being fun
[09:46] <RainMoods> hawke_: I get a promt for username and password, but have no clue what to enter there
[09:46] <karsten2> lavigj: You're mistaken ;-)
[09:46] <hawke_> RainMoods: try your username and password
[09:46] <karsten2> lavigj: /join #flood and show me what you're doing.
[09:47] <png`> i need to start a program at startup. which file can i use for startup files
[09:47] <RainMoods> hawke_: tried that already, and that does not work. Further, at the top of the page, there is a message: Administrative tasks have been disabled for security reasons. Please use Menu System > Administration > Printing.
[09:47] <hawke_> RainMoods: k.
[09:47] <RainMoods> png': are you in a GUI?
[09:47] <hawke_> RainMoods: anything possibly useful in /var/log/cups/error_log?
[09:48] <RainMoods> very useful! let me paste a tail...
[09:48] <hawke_> RainMoods: /msg it please..
[09:49] <StoffBox-Steve> i think it will take me the rest of my life to make a working kernel :( that really Sux
[09:49] <karsten2> Hrm.   Can anyone help me installing hp officejet parallel scanner?
[09:52] <karsten2> iftrouble: Yeah, IMO it's a PITA.
[09:52] <isakn> Is ubuntu based on Debian or what?
[09:53] <meuserj|work> isakn, yes
[09:53] <no0tic> please, it's important, I need it working tomorrow morning!
[09:53] <isakn> arh, how nice :).
[09:53] <no0tic> with mandrake just worked...
[09:53] <isakn> im going for it now - the install, wish me luck guys :P
[09:54] <meuserj|work> isakn, don't need luck.. easiest Linux install I've ever seen
[09:54] <iftrouble> with fedora just worked too! (TM) but i had to sell my fedora PC because of hard times moneywise!
[09:54] <isakn> thats what they all say :) - i think i can handle it then. :)
[09:54] <meuserj|work> heh
[09:54] <styx2005> i can't hear sound in flash player neither the startup sound. i tried this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8882&highlight=flash+sound but didn't help
[09:55] <isakn> but
[09:55] <StoffBox-Steve> what diver i must set in the kernel for an 3c940 GB onboard lan ?
[09:55] <isakn> 10gb would be plenty, right?
[09:55] <meuserj|work> isakn, yeah
[09:55] <isakn> good.
[09:56] <StoffBox-Steve> i install it on a 4 Gb drive isakn :)
[09:56] <isakn> yeah, but i need some room for programs and stuff :) - i dont wanna end up in trouble in the end
[09:56] <isakn> so too be on the safe side i'll take 10gb :)
[09:56] <StoffBox-Steve> have a 40 Gb drive in backhand :D
[09:56] <isakn> haha :P
[09:56] <isakn> oh, well - cya guys hopefully :D
[09:58] <StoffBox-Steve> someone can help me marking a working 2.6.8 working kernel ? its going to kill me
[09:59] <tanek_> how do I change default sound device?
[10:00] <Madeye> hey
[10:02] <RainMoods> tanek_: system->preferences->multimedia systems selector might help
[10:02] <Jon1012-Away> (if somebody is interested, I've released yesterday the last devel version of appliworks ( http://appliworks.jondesign.net ) )
[10:02] <RainMoods> what does appliworks do?
[10:02] <Jon1012-Away> pictures managment and database
[10:02] <Jon1012-Away> innovative way of handling pictures ;)
[10:02] <Jon1012-Away> it's a gnome 2 app
[10:02] <macewan> like the site design :)
[10:03] <Jon1012-Away> thx :)
[10:03] <tanek_> RainMoods, say what? system where? :S
[10:04] <Neil3> hey guys
[10:04] <dazed> I NEED HELP BAD!
[10:04] <Neil3> just added a dvd rom drive to my system but it doesnt show up in nautilus or automount, any ideas?
[10:04] <RainMoods> tanek_: at the top of your screen, there is something called 'System'
[10:05] <Neil3> it is recognised by totem and i can mount it manualy
[10:05] <tanek_> RainMoods, eh... no
[10:05] <geppy> dazed:  Don't say that;  just state your problem.
[10:05] <no0tic> HP OfficeJet 1150C scanner help needed!
[10:06] <RainMoods> tanek_: what are you using?
[10:06] <dazed> Ok well, I just installed Ubuntu last night (completely on accident formatted whole hard drive) this is my first linux distro...played around on knoppix for a couple months...i like the fluxbox desktop system i downloaded it tried to install and in configuration says i need to install X Windows System Libs and i thought ubuntu did that
[10:08] <tanek_> RainMoods, gnome...?
[10:08] <geppy> dazed:  You can't get fluxbox to work, is that what you're saying?
[10:08] <dazed> so anyone have some help for me?
[10:08] <dazed> yes
[10:09] <dazed> geppy: yes it wont get past the configure part of the install
[10:09] <geppy> dazed:  Open a GNOME-terminal, and run 'sudo apt-get install fluxbox'
[10:09] <geppy> dazed:  Wait;  have you installed Ubuntu yet?
[10:09] <dazed> yes
[10:09] <dazed> im on it currently
[10:09] <RainMoods> tanek_ I also use gnome and I see 'system' in the top panel
[10:09] <geppy> dazed:  Does 'sudo apt-get install fluxbox' not work?
[10:09] <dazed> ill try...is root terminal an Gnome-Term
[10:09] <tanek_> RainMoods, i have applications + computer, and stuff i added myself
[10:10] <geppy> dazed:  Sure, that'll work.
[10:10] <Echylo> can you get Ip if somebody keeps ctcp pinging you
[10:10] <tanek_> anyone know how i chage default sound device, its set to my usb webcam instead of my sound card :P
[10:10] <dazed> and just type 'sudo apt-get install fluxbox'
[10:10] <geppy> dazed:  The easiest way to open a GNOME terminal, though, is to just right-click on your GNOME desktop and select 'Open Terminal'
[10:10] <karsten2> Echylo: Tell it to th eops.
[10:10] <geppy> dazed:  Yes.
[10:10] <Echylo> they like him too much :)
[10:10] <Echylo> or they aren't here
[10:10] <Echylo> there*
[10:10] <dazed> Error couldnt find package fluxbox
[10:10] <jon1012> I'm back little bug
[10:11] <StoffBox-Steve> dont know it helps but take a look at http://home.arcor.de/markusheinz/ink_level.html no0tic
[10:11] <dazed> does the package have to be somewhere special..i downloaded it as a tar.gz
[10:11] <jon1012> someone told me something ?
[10:11] <aeolist> can someone check my repositories list for me and tell me if i missing something?
[10:11] <geppy> dazed:  It will automagically download it for you.
[10:11] <geppy> dazed:  Do this:
[10:11] <geppy> dazed:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:12] <geppy> dazed:  Take the leading '#' off the beginning of the lines with 'multiverse' and 'universe'
[10:12] <isakn> hmm.. i get an error while trying to get into the install program - or its not excactly a error, but it says that its loading programs, etc. and then it comes to xfsprogs.udeb (or something like that) and it just blinks and keeps blinking
[10:12] <StoffBox-Steve> sry no0tic was a work link ^^ that not helps
[10:12] <geppy> dazed:  these lines:
[10:12] <geppy>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[10:12] <geppy>  deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[10:12] <isakn> like forever :\
[10:12] <StoffBox-Steve> wrong
[10:12] <isakn> anybody knows that error?
[10:13] <geppy> dazed:  Were you able to do that?
[10:13] <StoffBox-Steve> no0tic,  so this is the right link :D http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-OfficeJet_Pro_1150C
[10:13] <dazed> hold on im looking these lines?
[10:13] <dazed> # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe
[10:13] <dazed> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe
[10:13] <geppy> dazed:  Were you able to do that?
[10:14] <no0tic> StoffBox-Steve: I read it, but I didn't find anything useful...
[10:14] <geppy> dazed:  Yes, take the leading '#' off of those lines.
[10:14] <dazed> no im lost and confused i got the sources.list file open
[10:14] <rubenv> mjg59: are you there, I'm installing a laptop that hangs on boot
[10:14] <geppy> dazed:  Yes, you are in the right file;  you need to remove the leading '#'s from the two lines that I've pointed you to;  the ones that just posted.
[10:14] <dazed> ok did that
[10:14] <geppy> dazed:  Now save it.
[10:14] <StoffBox-Steve> no0tic,  this site too ? http://hpoj.sourceforge.net/
[10:14] <geppy> dazed:  Then exit gedit
[10:14] <mjg59> rubenv: Hi
[10:14] <rubenv> mjg59: swell
[10:14] <mjg59> rubenv: Where does it hang?
[10:15] <geppy> dazed:  And run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install fluxbox'
[10:15] <dazed> saved and exited
[10:15] <rubenv> mjg59: it's a dell inspiron 5160
[10:15] <dazed> all that at in one line?
[10:15] <rubenv> mjg59:  basically hangs after about 2 minutes
[10:15] <no0tic> StoffBox-Steve: yes
[10:15] <macewan> Sonance is snazzy
[10:15] <geppy> dazed:  Yes.
[10:15] <AndyR> how do i go on setting up a local repository so apt only has to d/l files once to update my 3 ubuntu boxen?
[10:15] <rubenv> mjg59: it's today's dev build, downloaded with jigdo
[10:16] <isakn> the excact name is xfsprogs-udeb of the error package :(
[10:16] <rubenv> mjg59: both with noapic / nolapic given (both seperatly and both given)
[10:16] <dazed> geppy: its working ill let you know when its done thanks for info...this apt-get can i use it for all linux apps?
[10:16] <geppy> dazed:  Alright, cool.
[10:16] <Quarupt|ZzZz> so what can ya do in Horay that ya cant do in Warty?
[10:17] <geppy> dazed:  You can use it for any software within the repositories that you have in your sources.list file
[10:17] <StoffBox-Steve> no0tic, sry thats all i can do
[10:17] <dazed> so i could add more repositories could i not?
[10:17] <geppy> dazed:  So, you will be able to download many free/libre software applications via apt-get
[10:17] <geppy> dazed:  Yes.
[10:17] <no0tic> StoffBox-Steve: thanks anyway :)
[10:17] <klaxian> hello Ubuntu team
[10:17] <StoffBox-Steve>  :)
[10:17] <mjg59> rubenv: It hangs during install?
[10:17] <dazed> wow awesome
[10:17] <mjg59> Or it hangs during boot?
[10:17] <geppy> dazed:  Agreed.  That's why we use Debian. =)
[10:17] <Quarupt|ZzZz> Do any of the actual Ubuntu develpopers come here?
[10:18] <rubenv> mjg59: well, it did also during install
[10:18] <rubenv> mjg59: when it first reboots into the os
[10:18] <mjg59> rubenv: Right. Does it print anything before hanging?
[10:18] <rubenv> mjg59: I have to dpkg --configure -a manually to continue the install
[10:18] <rubenv> mjg59: unfortunately not
[10:18] <dazed> like i said this is my first linux distro...very nice one btw ..im just upset that the partitioner completely cleaned hard drive...i tried to partition 10 gig for Ubuntu but the whole drive was ntfs and i had to format
[10:18] <rubenv> mjg59: it just dies
[10:18] <_jon_> Quarupt|ZzZz: occasionally
[10:18] <mjg59> rubenv: How does it die? What's it doing when it dies?
[10:18] <klaxian> I've been giving Ubuntu to all my friends and family in my linux evangelism quest :)  but one has a problem that I haven't been able to figure out...can you help?
[10:19] <Marble2> quick question
[10:19] <rubenv> mjg59: well, doesn't matter what it does
[10:19] <_jon_> klaxian: ask away
[10:19] <isakn> is there nobody who can help?
[10:19] <geppy> klaxian:  I think we can answer that after we hear the question. =)
[10:19] <StoffBox-Steve> WHEN i make a kernel with > make-dpkg kernel_image take it automatic the patches from the linux_path folder ?
[10:19] <klaxian> with the gtk-gnutella version included with warty, it won't connect to anything and complains that it's a very old version
[10:19] <mjg59> rubenv: So it just hangs after a random amount of time?
[10:19] <klaxian> is this a known issue?
[10:19] <Marble2> if I edit my fstab to add the line "uid=myusernamehere" I will be able to access read only files on an NTSF drive I mounted
[10:19] <geppy> isakn:  I don't know that error.  You could try using Google, searching with whatever errors you may receive.
[10:19] <Marble2> as myusername right?
[10:19] <dazed> geppy: is there a place where i can read up and learn some codes for using apt-get so i can download some cool stuff?
[10:19] <Marble2> ntfs rather
[10:19] <rubenv> mjg59: yeah, don't know if its random, but could well be
[10:19] <geppy> klaxian:  It's probably just an old version, though.
[10:19] <rubenv> mjg59: really strange
[10:19] <geppy> dazed:  man apt-get
[10:19] <mjg59> rubenv: After boot? Or during boot?
[10:19] <klaxian> it is an old version, but it should still connect and work, rihgt?
[10:20] <macewan> dazed: use synaptic
[10:20] <geppy> dazed:  That will pull up the manual, or "man page", for apt-get
[10:20] <rubenv> mjg59: about 2 two minutes after it's booted
[10:20] <rubenv> mjg59: or 1 :)
[10:20] <jon1012> what problem ?
[10:20] <klaxian> is there a default firewall setting blocking the ports or something?
[10:20] <geppy> macewan: Hmph, that's no fun. =P
[10:20] <mjg59> rubenv: When you say "After it's booted", do you mean after it's given a login prompt?
[10:20] <geppy> klaxian:  Are you behind a router?
[10:20] <rubenv> mjg59: it basically comes up completely
[10:20] <dazed> geppy: thanks again...could i download xmms from the repositories cuz i like that too?
[10:20] <klaxian> nope, no NAT or anything
[10:20] <Marble2> anyone?
[10:20] <rubenv> mjg59: yeah, all runs swell
[10:20] <ompaul> open for opportunity - that is Linux
[10:20] <isakn> geppy im trying, but nothing.
[10:20] <mjg59> rubenv: Ok. Is this with Warty?
[10:20] <geppy> dazed:  Yes;  'sudo apt-get install xmms'
[10:20] <isakn> just info about what it is and stuff like that, but nothing
[10:20] <geppy> isakn:  I'm sorry.
[10:21] <isakn> but im just gonna check the md5 hash on the iso
[10:21] <rubenv> mjg59: today's hoary build
[10:21] <Neil3> hey guys
[10:21] <rubenv> mjg59: I downloaded the jigdo image about 3 hours ago
[10:21] <Neil3> just added a dvd rom drive to my system but it doesnt show up in nautilus or automount, any ideas? i can mount it manually but i just dont see it in nautilus, have to do it the old fashioned way. my cdrw drive is fine however
[10:21] <macewan> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[10:21] <macewan> :)
[10:21] <rubenv> mjg59: so you can consider it current hoary :)
[10:21] <Marble2> gah
[10:21] <Marble2> gah, can anyone help me?
[10:21] <geppy> Nell:  Is it in your /etc/fstab?
[10:21] <klaxian> he's not behind a router or anything like that...does ubuntu set default iptables settings to block gnutella ports or something?
[10:22] <geppy> Nell:  Try comparing your CD-RW and DVD-ROM entries in your /etc/fstab
[10:22] <geppy> klaxian:  I don't see why they would.
[10:22] <dazed> no such file or directory ...gotta add some repositories it seems
[10:22] <Neil3> geppy, i'll take a look
[10:22] <_jon_> Marble2: what do you mean by access?
[10:22] <klaxian> geppy: any other ideas then?
[10:22] <_jon_> you mean write to them?
[10:23] <Marble2> I mean read them
[10:23] <Neil3> hm its not in fstab
[10:23] <klaxian> gtk-gnutella won't connect to any peers
[10:23] <Marble2> because right now like
[10:23] <Neil3> so i guess i should add it!
[10:23] <Marble2> I have to run XMMS as root
[10:23] <tanek_> what command to use when changing default sound device to hw:2,1? please anyone! :S
[10:23] <mjg59> rubenv: Can you try warty on it and see if it behaves the same way?
[10:23] <Marble2> to be able to read them :(
[10:23] <geppy> klaxian:  I'm sorry, but no.  I didn't get GTKGNutella to work, and, as it is greatly lacking in documentation, I just switched to AMule.
[10:23] <geppy> Neil3: Good thinking! =)
[10:23] <Neil3> is there no utility out there that will add new drives to fstab, geppy?
[10:23] <rubenv> mjg59: livecd okay?
[10:23] <Neil3> or do i have to edit it by hand?
[10:23] <klaxian> is AMule better?  included in warty?
[10:23] <mjg59> rubenv: Ought to be for now
[10:23] <no0tic> brb
[10:23] <geppy> tanek_:  Try 'gstreamer-properties' and set the sink to 'alsasink device=hw:1,0'
[10:24] <rubenv> mjg59: it's a dell bios, which does have the no(l)apic crap :)
[10:24] <Marble2> _jon_: can I pm you please?
[10:24] <geppy> Neil3:  I've never used a GUI for it, you might as well just try doing it by hand.
[10:24] <mjg59> rubenv: Shouldn't be an issue with current kernels
[10:24] <_jon_> Marble2: ok
[10:24] <Neil3> just not sure what to put under options is all
[10:24] <shock> darn... is there anything more helpfull then bluefish if I need to create not-too-simple webpages?
[10:24] <rubenv> mjg59: yeah, but the warty livecd (pressed one) still has it, or am i wrong?
[10:24] <geppy> klaxian:  It is not included in Warty, but you can get it from either universe, or multiverse, or something, and being that it's the only one that worked for me, it suits my purposes better.
[10:25] <tanek_> geppy, how do i set it to that, not in the list?  :P
[10:25] <klaxian> well java is slow heh
[10:26] <dazed> can i also get KDE via the standard repositories on Ubuntu..i like the KDE apps like Konqueror...
[10:26] <geppy> tanek_:  hahaha yeah. =)
[10:26] <macewan> on hoary
[10:26] <klaxian> is Hoary like Debian's unstable distribution?
[10:26] <tanek_> yey
[10:26] <klaxian> can someone upgrade from warty to hoary just by changing the repositories?
[10:26] <Quarupt> I switched to horay and it gave me a new basg.rc, how can i put java back in my PATH?
[10:26] <macewan> hoary sounds nicer than unstable :)
[10:26] <rubenv> mjg59: BIOS bug detected, something with APIC 0
[10:26] <geppy> klaxian:  Yes, on both counts.
[10:27] <klaxian> geppy: thanks, is there something similar to testing in Debian?
[10:27] <klaxian> that gets updates frequently but is slightly more stable
[10:27] <geppy> klaxian:  No, it's only Warty (stable), and Hoary (unstable)
[10:27] <macewan> source
[10:27] <geppy> klaxian:  Sorry.
[10:27] <macewan> :)
[10:27] <mjg59> rubenv: Yeah, probably
[10:27] <klaxian> heh no problem
[10:28] <geppy> klaxian:  That said, Hoary is "stable enough", if you don't mind breakage here and there.
[10:28] <Riddell> dazed: yes http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE
[10:28] <klaxian> that's just what I was going to ask
[10:28] <geppy> klaxian:  Then again, I wouldn't go giving it to your mom. =P
[10:28] <klaxian> does Hoary get frequent updates?  not just security fixes?
[10:28] <rubenv> mjg59: Its an A03 Dell BIOS, better upgrade right?
[10:28] <klaxian> right
[10:28] <geppy> klaxian:  Every day.
[10:28] <klaxian> ah, so like debian unstable, excellent
[10:28] <geppy> klaxian: Yes. =)
[10:28] <tanek_> geppy, still dont have any system sound it seems
[10:28] <klaxian> geppy: thanks, you're a great help :)
[10:29] <mjg59> rubenv: If there's an upgrade, it's worth a go
[10:29] <geppy> klaxian:  Thanks. =)
[10:29] <geppy> tanek_: Do you know if ESD is running?
[10:29] <tanek_> only sound from xmms set to alsa and alsa configured to use hw:2,1
[10:29] <tanek_> think so
[10:29] <rubenv> mjg59: right, will do that then
[10:29] <macewan> dazed: KDE works well under Hoary for what it's worth
[10:29] <rubenv> mjg59: i'll let you know how it turned out
[10:29] <geppy> tanek_:  Is hw:2,1 a dmix plugin, or something of the sort, that would support concurrent use?
[10:29] <macewan> tried it the oterh day
[10:30] <macewan> as does amarok
[10:30] <macewan> 1.2
[10:30] <tanek_> geppy, it's my soundblastercard
[10:30] <lavigj> hey guys, quick question - what's the command to append one file on another file?
[10:30] <macewan> cat?
[10:30] <jk> cat file1 file2 >> file3
[10:31] <geppy> tanek_:  The device may only be used by one process at a time, unless you use a sound server such as ESD, ARTS, or JACK.
[10:31] <lavigj> macewan: not sure, I will check that out though..
[10:31] <lavigj> jk: thanks
[10:31] <styx2005> in hoary, how can i add a new icon to the applications menu?
[10:31] <macewan> damn, was hoping someone knew right away
[10:31] <jk> styx2005: Applications --> System tools -> Add/Remove programs
[10:32] <tanek_> geppy, yeah. that actually something i do know ;). but if i set gstreamer-properties to use esdsink device=hw:2,1?
[10:32] <geppy> tanek_:  Have you considered using a sound server?  And that gstreamer bit will only work for gstreamer-based applications.
[10:32] <tanek_> souldn't that use esd?
[10:32] <geppy> tanek_:  I'm not sure.
[10:32] <mairu> styx2005: try:  nautilus application:///   - in the terminal
[10:32] <macewan> in hoary?
[10:32] <macewan> no
[10:32] <tanek_> aha, ok.
[10:33] <tanek_> just that last time u used ubuntu, i got exactly the same prob, and it was all solved with one command in a terminal
[10:33] <geppy> tanek_:  It won't be the same syntax as ALSA.  The easiest way would probably be to uninstall the other sound devices.  If they're onboard, disable them in BIOS;  if they're PCI, unplug them.  Beyond that, I wouldn't know what to do, without looking it up.
[10:33] <mairu> styx2005: wait, try:  nautilus applications:///
[10:33] <dazed> geppy: the fluxbox is done setting up
[10:33] <mairu> styx2005: and add a launcher there
[10:33] <dazed> how would i access it?
[10:33] <macewan> in warty yes, hoary no
[10:34] <geppy> dazed:  Good. :-)
[10:34] <dazed> how can i use it now?
[10:34] <dazed> that its done
[10:34] <delltony_> anyone here use hoary and if so are you able to change screen resolution when i try it says X server doesn't support xrandr
[10:34] <geppy> dazed:  Reboot, and when you get to your login, just select Sessions>FLuxbox
[10:34] <tanek_> geppy, i really don't wanna uninstall my webcam :(
[10:34] <dazed> ok
[10:34] <geppy> tanek_:  Oh, right, it's your webcam, sorry.
[10:34] <geppy> tanek_:  Hrm, try asking again, I'll be looking googling.
[10:35] <styx2005> mairu: this command doesn't work anymore in hoary
[10:35] <jk> hmm indeed
[10:35] <NetGeek> afternoon all
[10:35] <jk> strange
[10:35] <tanek_> im looking around too :)
[10:35] <geppy> tanek_:  =)
[10:35] <Quarupt> is anyone having lots of bugs running limewire and java in Hoary?
[10:35] <blaaa> is there a new version of unbuntu soon to come out?
[10:35] <macewan> Quarupt: no prob here
[10:36] <mairu> styx2005: :(
[10:36] <Quarupt> expecially screen refreshing
[10:36] <geppy> blaaa: April.
[10:36] <geppy> blaaa:  That's when, depends on how you define 'soon'. =)
[10:36] <Quarupt> macewan, maybe i installed something wrong, it like doesnt refresh the screen right, i dunno
[10:36] <blaaa> ah k
[10:36] <macewan> Quarupt: using beta Lime though
[10:36] <blaaa> tnx
[10:36] <geppy> tanek_:  you can run ESD with '
[10:36] <Quarupt> where did ya get it?
[10:36] <geppy> tanek_: esd -d DEVICE
[10:36] <FHacktor1> hi
[10:37] <macewan> the site
[10:37] <geppy> tanek_:  I guess just try using different things for DEVICE, it should complain and tell you the correct syntax.
[10:37] <tanek_> ok
[10:37] <StoffBox-Steve> can someone PLZ tell me why samba after a reboot not shown any PCs on the network ? .. before it work fine.. and i change anythink ... that really Sucks...
[10:37] <Amaranth> anyone here with an iTunes Music Store account wanna test something i'm working on?
[10:38] <Quarupt> macewan, i dun see a link for the beta, can you give ma a url?
[10:38] <geppy> tanek_:  Wait, I'm dumb.
[10:38] <macewan> searching now
[10:38] <tanek_> geppy, surly not
[10:38] <geppy> tanek_:  The correct values for DEVICE are '/dev/dsp/', '/deb/dsp2', etc
[10:38] <geppy> tanek_:  hahaha =)
[10:38] <tanek_> :D
[10:38] <geppy> =D
[10:38] <tanek_> /dev/dsp2 then, probably
[10:38] <geppy> tanek_:  =)
[10:39] <blahrus> anyone know how to remove oo1 and not lose unubutu-desktop?
[10:39] <FHacktor1> i need some help here.. i have this problem - i've tried to hear two voices in the same time... i've tried to heard music and sounde of a game.. but i couldn't how can i fix it plz?
[10:39] <hawke_> blahrus: You can't.
[10:39] <Quarupt> how do i test to see if my java installation is messed up?
[10:39] <hawke_> blahrus: but ubuntu-desktop is not required.
[10:40] <Quarupt> cause my lomewire looks like shit
[10:40] <NetGeek> blahrus: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package, no biggie if it is removed
[10:40] <blahrus> hawke_: hum . . . why does it claim depenecy on on openoffice 1?
[10:40] <tanek_> geppy, i heard a sound when using the command, but not later
[10:40] <tanek_> no system sound
[10:40] <macewan> http://www9.limewire.com/beta/LimeWireLinux.tgz
[10:40] <chrissturm> hey guys! anyone got network manager cvs working with hoary?
[10:40] <gustavor> why are QT apps so ugly in hoary? how to fix that?
[10:40] <FHacktor1> i need some help here.. i have this problem - i've tried to hear two voices in the same time... i've tried to hear music and sound of a game.. but i couldn't how can i fix it plz?
[10:40] <blahrus> use gnome apps :)
[10:41] <geppy> tanek_:  You mean that it had the startup beeps?
[10:41] <macewan> Quarupt: you get that url
[10:41] <tanek_> geppy, yep
[10:41] <Quarupt> ya thx
[10:41] <dazed> geppy: still around...i rebooted but it took me straight to my gnome desktop
[10:41] <macewan> sure
[10:41] <geppy> tanek_:  you'll need to go back to 'gstreamer-properties', and switch back to ESD
[10:41] <hawke_> blahrus: Because that is considered part of the basic ubuntu desktop system.
[10:41] <chrissturm> NetworkManagerInfo: NetworkManagerInfo could not get the system bus.  Make sure the message bus daemon is running?
[10:41] <geppy> dazed:  You need to select Sessions > Fluxbox
[10:41] <dazed> where do i select that? i never saw it
[10:41] <geppy> dazed:  When you're logging in, in the bottom left corner, there's a Session option
[10:41] <blahrus> hawke_: alright, then I guess what happens when ubutunu-desktop is removed?
[10:41] <dazed> ok ill try
[10:41] <hawke_> blahrus: Nothing.
[10:41] <geppy> dazed:  Click on that, and then select 'fluxbox' in the popup
[10:41] <geppy> blahrus:  It's a meta-package.
[10:42] <tanek_> still no system sound, i think, cannot really remember what made sounds
[10:42] <geppy> blahrus:  It's only used to help make sure that everything is installed.
[10:42] <blahrus> ahhh
[10:42] <Quarupt> macewan, gave me a 404
[10:42] <geppy> tanek_:  You couldn't get a sine tone using the gstreamer-properties TEST under ESD?
[10:42] <hawke_> blahrus: ubuntu-desktop contains nothing, it just depends on stuff.
[10:42] <tanek_> yey, sound from gnome gmae
[10:42] <macewan> hrm.
[10:42] <geppy> tanek_:  =)
[10:42] <tanek_> yep, worked!
[10:42] <tanek_> thanks
[10:42] <blahrus> I see, I guess its good for newbie, I haven't been using ubuntu very long
[10:42] <geppy> tanek_:  No problem. :-)
[10:43] <tanek_> will i have to run esd -d /dev/dsp2 every time i reboot?
[10:43] <Quarupt> macewan, not 404, its saying i dont have permission
[10:43] <macewan> I'm telling on you
[10:43] <blahrus> hawke_: you tested graveman yet?
[10:43] <macewan> let me look
[10:43] <geppy> tanek_:  Hrm, hold on;  looking for the sound server startup stuff
[10:43] <geppy> tanek_:  Try /etc/esound/esd.conf
[10:44] <macewan> http://www9.limewire.com/beta/LimeWireOther.zip
[10:44] <tanek_> ok
[10:44] <hawke_> blahrus: Nope
[10:44] <geppy> tanek_:  If you put '-d /dev/dsp2' on the 'default_options=' line, that _should_ work, as far as I know
[10:44] <macewan> cd ../beta
[10:44] <geppy> tanek_:  There's only one wayto find out
[10:44] <tanek_> yep
[10:44] <tanek_> thanks anyway
[10:44] <geppy> tanek_:  No problem.
[10:45] <geppy> tanek_:  If you change that, and then restart ESD, you'll find out
[10:45] <tanek_> whats the command for that?
[10:45] <blahrus> hawke_: looks nice.
[10:45] <geppy> tanek_:  killall esd
[10:45] <geppy> tanek_:  and then just run 'esd' again
[10:45] <macewan> Quarupt: http://www9.limewire.com/beta/LimeWireOther.zip
[10:46] <hawke_> blahrus: I'll look at it...I've been looking for a gnome cd burning app that's decent.
[10:46] <hawke_> blahrus: preferably competitive with k3b
[10:46] <tanek_> it works perfectly geppy :) esd starts at boot, right?
[10:46] <geppy> hawke I don't think that one exists.
[10:46] <rubenv> mjg59: Just upgraded the bios to A07, booting without either noapic and nolapic makes it hang
[10:46] <hawke_> blahrus: or burnatonce, in windows
[10:46] <geppy> tanek_:  Right, as long as you have 'Enable Sound Server Startup' checked in the 'Sound' properties dialog;  which it should be, as long as you haven't unchecked it. =)
[10:46] <shock> anyone here ever set up plone?
[10:46] <blahrus> hawke_: haven't run it yet, installed it on my laptop, installed fine and found my burner.
[10:46] <Jet2k5> hey I just updated Ubuntu and it's just fscked a lot of stuff up
[10:47] <tanek_> ok, nice. problem solved then
[10:47] <Jet2k5> sounds just stopped working ?!?!?
[10:47] <geppy> hawke  Would it be difficult to port K3B to GTK?
[10:47] <tanek_> Jet2k5, u updated to polypaudio ?
[10:47] <tanek_> seen people having problems with it
[10:47] <Jet2k5> tanek_: don't think so
[10:47] <Jet2k5> how do I check?
[10:47] <Jet2k5> man this sucks, I've been having nothing but problems
[10:47] <tanek_> using hoary?
[10:48] <hawke_> geppy: I have no idea.  But I suspect so, it's pretty KDEish
[10:48] <Jet2k5> don't think so
[10:48] <macewan> or http://www9.limewire.com/beta/LimeWireLinux.rpm
[10:48] <Jet2k5> how do I check
[10:48] <geppy> hawke Alright.
[10:48] <Jet2k5> macewan: yes?
[10:48] <rubenv> mjg59: still hangs, sucks
[10:48] <macewan> sorry - someone else reply
[10:48] <tanek_> if u haven't changed it, ur not using it, and have not switched to polypaudio i think
[10:48] <Quarupt> can someone else help me with java, i think my java installed is screwed up
[10:48] <Jet2k5> Quarupt: ubuntuguide.org
[10:49] <Jet2k5> go there, it will tell you how to install java
[10:49] <Jet2k5> it's the easiest thing ever
[10:49] <geppy> Jet2k5:  What is not giving you sound?
[10:49] <Jet2k5> macewan: you can visit that too if you want to install limewire
[10:49] <Quarupt> I allready installed java
[10:49] <Quarupt> lol
[10:49] <Jet2k5> geppy: just about everything
[10:49] <Jet2k5> xmms, totem, gaim
[10:49] <Jet2k5> anything that outputs sound
[10:49] <macewan> ?
[10:49] <geppy> Jet2k5:  are you running ESD?
[10:49] <Jet2k5> maybe a reboot is needed?
[10:49] <Jet2k5> geppy: would not know, I just went to play a song and nothing will work
[10:50] <Quarupt> but that was before i switched to Hoary, maybe that is my problem??
[10:50] <macewan> all sounds turned up
[10:50] <Jet2k5> yeapp
[10:50] <geppy> Jet2k5:  nothing is muted?
[10:50] <dazed> alright im on Fluxbox
[10:50] <macewan> dazed: how are the tabs
[10:50] <geppy> dazed:  Good to hear. =)
[10:50] <dazed> is thre a good file sharing program for Ubuntu? like for music...
[10:50] <Jet2k5> geppy: no
[10:51] <dazed> macewan: what tabs?
[10:51] <macewan> Limewire dazed
[10:51] <Quarupt> if i installed Java in warty and upgraded to Hoary could that mess up my java install?
[10:51] <Jet2k5> geppy: I'm looking at alsamixer and PCM is turned off? how do I turn it back on?
[10:51] <macewan> thats the purpose of fluxbox
[10:51] <macewan> tabs
[10:51] <dazed> where can i edit my menu
[10:51] <macewan> Quarupt: my continued to work
[10:51] <geppy> Jet2k5: hrmph
[10:51] <dazed> im used to Blackbox for Windows...thats how i got into linux...and now im just learning flux
[10:51] <geppy> Jet2k5:  sudo apt-get install aumix
[10:51] <Quarupt> well it works, but limewire is all slow and buggy
[10:51] <geppy> Jet2k5:  Use aumix to adjust your mixer properties
[10:51] <Jet2k5> k
[10:52] <macewan> http://www.macewan.org/index.php?m=200412#post-206 <- java love
[10:52] <Quarupt> macewan,  your just supposed to run sh ./runLime right?
[10:52] <macewan> using gnome?
[10:52] <dazed> macewan: where can i edit my fluxbox menu and edit my fluxbox config?
[10:53] <Jet2k5> I got like, one of those interactive ubuntu sounds
[10:53] <Jet2k5> lol
[10:53] <Jet2k5> when I opened up vallume control
[10:53] <Marble2> how do I set my mouse up so extra mouse buttons work
[10:53] <macewan> dazed: grab fluxconfig or whatever
[10:53] <Marble2> I have an MX500
[10:53] <geppy> Jet2k5:  so sound is working, then? =)
[10:53] <dazed> where at apt-get ?? lol im really  new
[10:53] <KING^^^> hello all , please help with this , my sound plays too fast , in XMMS in XINE in everything , how do I fix it ?
[10:53] <macewan> Quarupt: use nautilus
[10:53] <Jet2k5> geppy: nope not with gaim, and xmms
[10:54] <Jet2k5> geppy: now it is :)
[10:54] <geppy> Jet2k5:  Make sure that GAIM is set to use 'automatic', and that XMMS is set to use 'ESounD'
[10:54] <geppy> Jet2k5:  Good to hear. =)
[10:54] <Jet2k5> I guess I must of updated gaim, or something, and didn't restart it :P
[10:54] <Quarupt> macewan, does it make a diff?
[10:54] <geppy> Jet2k5:  haha =)
[10:54] <ompaul> KING^^^, never ever heard of that - how fast is it playing?
[10:54] <macewan> KING^^^: options > preferences > output plugin
[10:54] <jon1012> good night all
[10:54] <KING^^^> macewan: i have done that
[10:55] <macewan> Quarupt: you can click it there :)
[10:55] <Jet2k5> geppy: lol but xmms is going nutx
[10:55] <Burn`> somebody got an answer to this --> http://games.telenet.be/forum/showthread.php?t=297413 check the errorcode plz
[10:55] <geppy> Jet2k5:  How so?
[10:55] <Jet2k5> I just tried playing an .mp3 and text is flying at me everywhere, as if I was going through a system meltdown
[10:55] <geppy> Jet2k5:  sudo apt-get install xmms-mp3
[10:55] <lunitik> Burn`: you have it in english?
[10:55] <Jet2k5> heh
[10:55] <geppy> Jet2k5:  What kind of text is coming out?
[10:55] <Jet2k5> all
[10:56] <geppy> Jet2k5:  haha
[10:56] <geppy> Jet2k5:  Can you put some of it in the pastebin, so that I may have a look?
[10:56] <KING^^^> so ... nobody knows ?
[10:56] <macewan> use muine
[10:56] <Jet2k5> geppy: nope it moves :P
[10:56] <warty> Hey, I'm new to Ubuntu, I tried to install it but I can not see my other NTFS disk partitions, anybody could explain why?
[10:56] <Quarupt> macewan, when i click it and click run nothing happens?
[10:56] <Jet2k5> geppy: thanks for the help
[10:56] <geppy> Jet2k5:  Where is the text?  Is it in the terminal?
[10:56] <geppy> Jet2k5:  No problem
[10:56] <Jet2k5> geppy: the first I've seen around
[10:57] <Burn`> lunitik: no, not in english, watch the code part, I got a Connection Reset By Peer when I am doing sudo apt-get update
[10:57] <lunitik> macewan: how does that solve his issue? enlighten me
[10:57] <geppy> macewan:  It's a matter of preference. =)
[10:57] <Jet2k5> geppy: nope on the actually xmms, like where the song names are displayed
[10:57] <macewan> lunitik: ?
[10:57] <Jet2k5> geppy: removed it and re-installed it, and it all works now ;)
[10:57] <Jet2k5> thanks for the help
[10:57] <Jet2k5> bbl/
[10:57] <geppy> Jet2k5:  Perhaps you have a list of songs that don't actually exist on the hard drive, and it is scanning through the list trying to find music that works?
[10:57] <geppy> Jet2k5: haha
[10:57] <lunitik> macewan: please don't recommend other applications as a fix to issues with current... its not helpful
[10:57] <geppy> Jet2k5:  Alright
[10:58] <macewan> lunitik: what?
[10:58] <lunitik> macewan: recommending muine because of an issue with xmms
[10:58] <lunitik> not helpful
[10:58] <geppy> macewan:  If XMMS isn't working for someone, don't just say 'use Muine'
[10:58] <Quarupt> macewan, howcome when i type java as root it cant find it but when a do it as a user it does, do they have seperate paths?
[10:58] <rubenv> mjg59: strangely enough, in debug, it runs well
[10:58] <geppy> macewan:  It really _isn't_ helpful
[10:58] <macewan> sure
[10:59] <macewan> alright
[10:59] <blaaa> will upgrading from the current ubuntu to the one coming out in april be hard?
[10:59] <blaaa> im really new to linux
[10:59] <geppy> blaaa:  No, it shouldn't be.
[10:59] <Quarupt> blaa
[10:59] <Quarupt> it was easy for me
[10:59] <lunitik> macewan: *especially* when its not a default application... because that person went of there way to get it, they probably want *that*
[10:59] <blaaa> k, tnx
[10:59] <macewan> got it
[11:00] <Marble2> ugh, what's the easiest way to copy and paste in terminal
[11:00] <Quarupt> how do i unsitsall java?
[11:00] <Marble2> there has to be a better way than right click -> copy/paste
[11:00] <geppy> Marble2:  CTRL-SHIFT-C
[11:00] <lunitik> Marble2: sellect and hit ctrl ins
[11:00] <tanek_> or rightclick :P
[11:00] <geppy> Marble2:  You have to use the SHIFT because regular CTRL-C kills whatever is running
[11:00] <geppy> Marble2:  IT's the same for pasting, CTRL-SHIFT-V
[11:00] <Quarupt> anyone know how to uninstall java?
[11:01] <Marble2> oh cool
[11:01] <Marble2> thanks
[11:01] <lunitik> geppy: ctrl shift c doesn't work here... ctrl shift ins  (I was wrong too, but closer, so there)
[11:01] <geppy> lunitik:  haha
[11:01] <geppy> lunitik:  It's probably because I'm using gterm
[11:02] <geppy> lunitik:  Or GNOME terminal, whatever they call it
[11:02] <lunitik> geppy: gnome-terminal?  IT IS SO HARD DO SET UP AN WORKING CUSTOM KERNEL ? ....
[11:02] <Quarupt> How do you uninstall java?
[11:02] <geppy> StoffBox-Steve:  I haven't found it to be.
[11:02] <KING^^^> so , nobody know why my sound plays too fast ?
[11:02] <lunitik> geppy: when I hit ctrl shift c I get an S with a funky line under it
[11:02] <geppy> StoffBox-Steve:  Perhaps you could say specifically what troubles you're having.
[11:03] <geppy> lunitik:  heh =)
[11:03] <StoffBox-Steve> i say it many many times in this channel and never get a answer
[11:03] <Quarupt> Im sure someone knows the command to uninstall Java?
[11:03] <geppy> StoffBox-Steve:  You say what?  I've never seen you post your problem, and I'm sure that there are others here that haven't as well.
[11:04] <geppy> StoffBox-Steve: You might get lucky and find someone who knows the answer.
[11:04] <StoffBox-Steve> :) i hope geppy
[11:04] <geppy> StoffBox-Steve:  =)
[11:04] <lunitik> rubenv: difference between recovery and regular = recovery is single user... useful for a b0rked /etc/sudoers for instance...
[11:04] <geppy> ompaul:  I dunno, 19" is a little small... try 21"? =P
[11:04] <Vjaz> Is there a way to tell apt-get to remove all packages that weren't explicitly installed or required by other packages?
[11:04] <lunitik> (only reason I've used it so far)
[11:05] <ompaul> geppy, nice
[11:05] <Vjaz> So that if I for example installed K3B and it pulled a bunch of KDE libraries in, and I'd remove it later, all those KDE libraries wouldn't be left lurking around.
[11:06] <geppy> Vjaz:  They don't hurt anything.
[11:06] <Marble2> what's the quickest way to burn files to a CD?
[11:06] <Vjaz> geppy: They take up disk space.
[11:06] <geppy> Vjaz:  It's probably about twenty or thirty cents worth of disk space.
[11:06] <geppy> Marble2:  K3B
[11:06] <lunitik> Vjaz: debfoster would make what you want easier... other than that, not sure
[11:06] <StoffBox-Steve> the prob is, i only what a custom kernel with nvidia driver, driver for my 3c940 GB lan , bootsplash ) thats all i want ... i as a level the driver will boot normaly ( juhu take me a few days :| ) but now the bootsplash dosnt work! ( not patchs ? ) the network not comeup, and the Xserver cant start :S
[11:06] <Marble2> can I apt-get it?
[11:06] <hsprang> quarupt:  which java are you actually running?
[11:06] <Vjaz> geppy: I have a laptop. Mi disk space is limited.
[11:06] <ompaul> Marble2, yes
[11:06] <geppy> Vjaz:  ah, alright.
[11:06] <Vjaz> lunitik: Sounds interesting.
[11:07] <StoffBox-Steve> kernel boot normaly not the drvier
[11:07] <mjr> Vjaz, deborphan might be able to identify some of them
[11:07] <geppy> Vjaz:  you could just get rid of all kde libs... sudo apt-get remove *kde*
[11:07] <Marble2> thank
[11:07] <geppy> ompaul:  haha
[11:07] <Vjaz> Marble2: You can also use Nautilus (the file manager) to burn CD's.  It was just an example.
[11:09] <Marble2> pardon my french
[11:09] <geppy> Vjaz:  the only way that I'd know to do it would be to record the list of packages required by K3B
[11:09] <lunitik> Vjaz: debfoster is the easiest way so far that anyone has said... trust me
[11:09] <geppy> Marble2:  K3B gives lots of meaningless errors:  does it still run?
[11:09] <Marble2> installing right now
[11:09] <hubert> how to enable/disable services in ubuntu, for example inetd ?
[11:10] <geppy> Marble2:  As someone stated earlier, you could just find the ISO in Nautilus, and right-click "write to CD"
[11:10] <ompaul> cdrecord has burnt hoary array 5  for me to mail to someone in that short time while we were waiting on Marble2 to d/load s/ware
[11:10] <lunitik> hubert: /etc/init.d/foo start/stop/restart
[11:10] <lunitik> hubert: or invoke-rc.d blah start/stop/restart
[11:10] <lunitik> hubert: both have 'sudo' infront
[11:10] <Marble2> nautilus?
[11:11] <Vjaz> Marble2: the file manager
[11:11] <Marble2> oh
[11:12] <hubert> lunitik: thanks, this is the same as in slackware
[11:12] <ompaul> and now for the live cd
[11:12] <lunitik> Vjaz: its a desktop shell, not just a file manager... it tries to do what bash does for a terminal
[11:12] <lunitik> Vjaz: for instance... its responsible for most errors you get
[11:12] <encryptio> er
[11:13] <lunitik> wallpaper
[11:13] <lunitik> many things
[11:13] <Marble2> how can I get a list of disks / partitions connected to this computer?
[11:13] <lunitik> Marble2: 'mount'
[11:13] <Vjaz> lunitik: Yes, I know, but it was a lot easier to call it "the file manager" in this case.
[11:13] <lunitik> Marble2: uhh... 'fdisk -l' actually
[11:14] <lunitik> cuz you want partitions and stuff *nods*
[11:14] <Marble2> lunitik: it's not detecting one hd
[11:14] <Marble2> only the one this ubuntu partition is on
[11:14] <Marble2> /dev/hdd1              11        7748    62155485    7  HPFS/NTFS
[11:14] <Marble2> /dev/hdd2            7749       10359    20972857+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[11:14] <Marble2> /dev/hdd3           10360       20802    83883397+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[11:14] <Marble2> /dev/hdd4   *       20803       24321    28266367+  82  Linux swap
[11:14] <Marble2> there should be another one
[11:14] <Marble2> ntfs
[11:14] <Marble2> never mind
[11:14] <Marble2> I got it
[11:15] <lunitik> Marble2: any reason your extended is your swap?
[11:15] <Marble2> I don't know what that means
[11:15] <hawke_> lunitik: that's not an extended partition.
[11:15] <delltony> anyone here use a ati radeon 9700 with tvout if so how in the heck do you get tvout to switch to tvout ? i have it setup in xorg correcly so i think but when i plugin the wires and all i get nada on the tv as if it doesn't know i want to switch displays
[11:16] <ompaul> now where is the nice bubble bag
[11:16] <lunitik> Marble2: /dev/hdd4, the one with the * is extended... it shouldn't be used if you have more than 4 paritions... but in your case its swap
[11:16] <Marble2> i have no clue
[11:16] <lunitik> Marble2: swap is simular to windows page file btw
[11:16] <Marble2> oh
[11:16] <Marble2> well I have a gig of ram
[11:16] <Marble2> shouldn't matter that much should it?
[11:17] <lunitik> Marble2: but yeah... you shouldn't put it on hdd4.
[11:17] <hawke_> lunitik: it is not extended.  Where are you getting that idea from?
[11:17] <hawke_> lunitik: * indicates the boot flag is on.  There's no reason not to use hdd4
[11:18] <lunitik> hawke: well... I guessed thats what the * means... but yeah... if he had extended partitions, hdd4 wouldn't be used at all... so I'm just being a retard
[11:18] <Marble2> oh
[11:18] <Marble2> I'm dual booting
[11:18] <Frodo> hi, how can I reinstall my Ubuntu grub bootloader, I don't have a boot floppy...
[11:18] <hawke_> lunitik: hehe, K.
[11:18] <geppy> Frodo:  sudo apt-get install --reconfigure grub
[11:18] <lunitik> hawke: hah... thats probably worse then... cuz I don't think swap should be bootable... hell, I didn't even know you could make it bootable
[11:18] <geppy> or something like that =/
[11:19] <lunitik> geppy: dpkg-reconfigure grub
[11:19] <geppy> lunitik:  ah, thanks
[11:19] <ompaul> some nice eye candy opengl spectrum analyser with some music attached to it :)
[11:20] <hawke_> lunitik: the boot flag doesn't really matter for swap.  That hard drive config looks OK to me.
[11:20] <Frodo> Geppy, I cant get into Ubuntu to do that...
[11:20] <geppy> Frodo:  Try booting with the CD?
[11:20] <hawke_> lunitik: it doesn't indicate that it can actually boot, it just indicates that the default (windows) mbr will try to boot from it.
[11:20] <geppy> Frodo: You can use CTRL-ALT-F2 to get a root terminal (do that right before the disk partitioning)
[11:20] <lunitik> hawke: except that his linux partition isn't there cuz he didn't make any extended
[11:20] <Frodo> does the boot cd give me a way to access the partition without installing?
[11:20] <geppy> Frodo:  then run dpkg-reconfigure grub
[11:20] <geppy> Frodo:  Yes.
[11:20] <Frodo> thank you
[11:21] <geppy> No problem.
[11:21] <Frodo> that answers my question well
[11:21] <hawke_> lunitik: well, yeah.
[11:21] <StoffBox-Steve> for what are > Restricted Linux modules for version 2.6 on 386 ?
[11:21] <hawke_> lunitik: and no way to do that, really...
[11:21] <lunitik> hawke: not now... he b0rked partitioning pretty bad  ;)
[11:22] <hawke_> lunitik: Unless those partitions do not really have anything on them
[11:22] <Frodo> thanks again  be back later
[11:22] <hawke_> lunitik: would be simple to change one of them to a Linux type 83 partition
[11:22] <lunitik> Marble2: so basically... conclusion is... you have your install CD's around still?
[11:23] <Marble2> ugh I haven't even been paying attention
[11:23] <hawke_> Marble2: Is your system booting with that disk configuration?
[11:23] <Marble2> yes, but I don't feel like reinstalling
[11:23] <Marble2> yes it is hawke_
[11:23] <lunitik> hawke: to windows...
[11:24] <hawke_> Marble2: You should be fine then, really
[11:24] <Marble2> grub doesn't work for me btw
[11:24] <Marble2> I just run LILO
[11:24] <Marble2> works fine
[11:24] <hawke_> oh, but not to linux?
[11:24] <hawke_> Marble2: Does your system boot into Linux?
[11:24] <Marble2> of course
[11:24] <Marble2> how else would I be here
[11:25] <hawke_> Marble2: Well, there are irc clients for Windows. :-)
[11:25] <Marble2> well yea
[11:25] <hawke_> Marble2: run 'mount'
[11:25] <Marble2> but why would I be in #ubuntu
[11:25] <Marble2> asking for help
[11:25] <Marble2> ;p
[11:25] <lunitik> Marble2: so wait... what excactly was your question then?
[11:25] <hawke_> Marble2: And then fdisk
[11:25] <Marble2> lunitik: a stupid one and I figured out the answer right away
[11:25] <hawke_> Marble2: and then change the type of your Linux partition to 82. :-)
[11:25] <Marble2> you guys started anyalyzing what I pasted
[11:25] <lunitik> Marble2: gdi  :P
[11:26] <hawke_> Marble2: Not a requirement, just a good idea. :-)
[11:26] <isak> FINALLY! IT WORKED! Thank you, guys! :D
[11:27] <Marble2> ugh, damn k3b won't burn this cd, I'm just booting to windows to burn it. be right back
[11:27] <geppy> I'm using Polypaudio on Ubuntu Hoary, and I have set Polypaudio to use the ALSA device "jackplug", which works fine with other applications, such as aplay, and Gstreamer.  Unfortunately, Polypaudio spits out strange errors when I attempt to use it.  It complains that it cannot open the library for the ALSA JACK plugin, but that file indeed exists (and works fine for other applications).
[11:28] <geppy> Any polypaudio gurus about?
[11:29] <lunitik> jdub: you consider yourself a polypaudio guru?  :P
[11:29] <lunitik> geppy: he's the only one I can think of...
[11:29] <geppy> Alas, I shall have to try again later, it is time for me to be going.
[11:30] <geppy> lunitik: thanks. =)
[11:30] <chrissturm> anyone running networkmanager?
[11:30] <lunitik> chrissturm: likely not... I don't think redhat has made it public domain yet
[11:30] <geppy> lunitik:  it need not be public domain
[11:31] <chrissturm> lunitik: its in gnome cvs
[11:31] <geppy> lunitik:  It need only be GPL/LGPL/whatever
[11:31] <thenuke> ubuntu does not have modconf? not even in repos.
[11:31] <lunitik> chrissturm: maybe they have then  :P
[11:31] <drspin> YAY! got my internet && my dual processor machine working again!
[11:31] <drspin> now... why is my ubuntu only seeing 1 processor?
[11:31] <matt__> because it doesn't have an smp kernel
[11:31] <lunitik> thenuke: nope
[11:32] <matt__> apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-4-686-smp
[11:32] <matt__> if you are using hoary
[11:32] <Karlosis> Hello, I was trying to install openoffice.org2
[11:32] <thenuke> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/modconf/
[11:32] <thenuke> ha, found it
[11:32] <kbrooks> HELP! I want ubuntu to see my hard drive!
[11:32] <kbrooks> err
[11:32] <Karlosis> Is it supported on x86_64?
[11:32] <thenuke> I thought that I have universe in use already :I
[11:32] <kbrooks> HELP! I want ubuntu to see my floppy disk drive!
[11:33] <drspin> matt__: I suppose I could use Hoary on the server...
[11:33] <ompaul> kbrooks, fdisk -l /dev/hd[a-d]
[11:33] <ompaul> kbrooks, that will tell you what is there for mounting
[11:33] <drspin> matt__: will that image work for my Celeron processors
[11:33] <drspin> ?
[11:33] <thenuke> ompaul: those are nof floppydisks :I
[11:33] <matt__> drspin: yes
[11:33] <drspin> matt__: Thanks! :)
[11:33] <thenuke> kbrooks: so have you tried mounting /dev/fd0?
[11:34] <HrdwrBoB> drspin: if you are using warty
[11:34] <ompaul> ahh
[11:34] <kbrooks> ompaul, dude! i want ubuntu to see my floppy disk drive. it isn't working
[11:34] <HrdwrBoB> that would be <IP_ADDRESS>-4 or something.. whatever the higest version is
[11:34] <drspin> HrdwrBoB: K
[11:34] <drspin> HrdwrBoB: thanks!
[11:34] <hawke_> ompaul: there're two questions, the second is a correction. :-)
[11:34] <HrdwrBoB> no problem: )
[11:34] <isak> why doesnt mount /dev/hda1 /hda1 ntfs work? :\
[11:34] <ompaul> hawke_ aye
[11:34] <HrdwrBoB> isak: because you need -t ntfs
[11:34] <isak> arh alright
[11:34] <Brunellus> any ndiswrapper users in the house?
[11:35] <Lemonzest> is there an amd64 guide/faq anywhere for linux?
[11:35] <Karlosis> Is openoffice.org2 supported on x86_64?
[11:35] <kbrooks> mounting it wont work
[11:35] <HrdwrBoB> Lemonzest: with respect to what?
[11:35] <lunitik> isak: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /some/where/here  <-- correct syntax
[11:36] <Anubis> WOW!
[11:36] <Anubis> Magor update today huh?
[11:36] <Lemonzest> with respect to what i should expect speed and compatabilty wise
[11:36] <lunitik> isak: but either way... you need to go look at wiki for NTFS
[11:36] <thenuke> hey how can thise be now possible :o  I have deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted __universe__  in my sources.list  but I still cant find modconf http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/modconf/
[11:36] <Anubis> 130 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:36] <Anubis> Need to get 76.9MB of archives.
[11:36] <Anubis> Hoary
[11:36] <Brunellus> why is ndiswrapper 1.0 not working today, when ti worked just FINE last night?
[11:36] <kbrooks> Anubis, problem?
[11:36] <Anubis> kbrooks, is there?
[11:36] <Brunellus> modprobe ndiswrapper today and I got "invalid module type"
[11:37] <Brunellus> or some such.  I'm not on the offending machine, and cant' get to it easily
[11:37] <kbrooks> Anubis, sounds like it is a major update
[11:37] <hawke_> thenuke: hoary vs. warty perhaps?
[11:37] <Anubis> kbrooks, you know anything about it?
[11:37] <Karlosis> only KDE, Gnome and X.org updates
[11:37] <Karlosis> The big 3 :9
[11:37] <hawke_> thenuke: do you really need modconf anyway?
[11:37] <ompaul> so is kbrooks happy yet or does kbrooks need a command like mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[11:38] <kbrooks> ompaul, please don't talk back
[11:38] <thenuke> hawke_: well I dont know, I was to edit modules.conf by hand but dudes suggested me to get modconf instead
[11:38] <isak> if i want fat32 support, then i have to reinstall the kernel dont i? :(
[11:38] <lunitik> isak: no... -t vfat
[11:38] <Frodo> I think maybe I am srewed...I did that with install disk "dpkg-reconfigure grub" got the error "grub not fully installed"
[11:38] <hawke_> thenuke: If you know what module you want, editting /etc/modules is the way to go
[11:38] <thenuke> hawke_: As I thought about removing some HAM radio protocols for example
[11:39] <Brunellus> I haven't changed anything on my system between last night and today, and ndiswrapper is gone.
[11:39] <isak> oh :)
[11:39] <geppy|away> Brunellus:  It was the GNOME gnomes
[11:39] <gma> I'm using glade 2.6 on warty. It's given me a GtkFileChooserDialog.
[11:39] <gma> it's not available in gtk 2.4
[11:39] <gma> what's that all about?
[11:39] <hawke_> thenuke: I don't think /etc/modules or modconf will be helpful for preventing modules from loading.
[11:39] <gma> seems like quite a large balls up to me, but it's not mentioned on the forums.
[11:39] <gma> I must be on crack
[11:39] <kbrooks> I want ubuntu to see my floppy disk drive, and i even have tried mounting it, but it will NOT work. it doesn't even give me a error
[11:40] <thenuke> hawke_: well... modules.conf says something like "uncomment what you dont want to be loaded"
[11:40] <hawke_> thenuke: I don't even see a /etc/modules.conf
[11:41] <thenuke> hawke_: that is a bit weird then if you really have ubuntu =)
[11:41] <thenuke> it for sure should be in there
[11:41] <drspin> Is it normal that I couldn't install from an IDE CD drive to a SCSI HD?
[11:41] <drspin> but I can install fine from a SCSI CD
[11:41] <Brunellus> the GNOMEs are really getting me down, geppy
[11:41] <Brunellus> h'mmm.  I did install gnome-bluetooth
[11:41] <Frodo> my problem is, grub in installed with my other partition on the mbr (mepis)  Ubuntu is on /dev/hda1 and Mepis on /dev/hda5.  Mepis cannot automatically see Ubuntu.  I have tried to point Mepis to the Ubuntu partition but to no avail.
[11:42] <Brunellus> but I dont' understand how or why that would mess with ndiswrapper
[11:42] <Brunellus> because last night, I ran *both* ndiswrapper and gnome-bluetooth with no problems.
[11:42] <Brunellus> I was in a rather good mood!
[11:42] <geppy> Brunellus:  Have you tried just apt-getting ndiswrapper again?
[11:42] <Brunellus> i compiled ndiswrapper from source
[11:42] <Brunellus> and, geppy, how do I apt-get when I hve no internet access?
[11:43] <Brunellus> *(this is not that computer)*
[11:43] <Frodo> I have googled lots of info about how to configure grub...but grub is not getting hold of Ubuntu...I have taken hours to do this
[11:43] <geppy> Brunellus: touch
[11:43] <Brunellus> yeah.  if I had 'net access, this would not be a problem
[11:43] <geppy> Brunellus:  Have you tried just reinstalling the ndiswrapper packages in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[11:43] <Frodo> Im about ready to blow away my Ubuntu partion and start over, though I hate to do this
[11:44] <Brunellus> no, not yet.  I'm trying to understand why this went wrong
[11:44] <geppy> Brunellus:  alright
[11:44] <Brunellus> it's unusual.  I ran ndiswrapper for months on suse with no problems at all
[11:44] <lunitik> Frodo: Ubuntu = 'hd(0,0)' Mepis = 'hd(0,4) ?
[11:44] <Brunellus> but I can't modprobe it.  modprobe -r and then modprobe...no go
[11:44] <Brunellus> reinstall.  no go
[11:44] <Frodo> yes
[11:45] <StoffBox-Steve> Frodo, it dont make you happy ... thrust me .. i reinstall linux 30 and more times last 3 weeks .. and im not happy ^^
[11:45] <Brunellus> all the proper drivers are loaded into ndiswrapper.  it ran last night
[11:45] <Brunellus> (which is how I was connected to irc all that time)
[11:45] <Frodo> Steve: me too
[11:46] <Brunellus> I'm furious, because everything was running so well!
[11:46] <Brunellus> ugh. any ideas?
[11:46] <Brunellus> nodoby's home at #ndiswrapper
[11:47] <Brunellus> OK.  I'm going to do it windows-style.  shut down, reboot, and hope the GNOMEs have all gone away
[11:48] <Brunellus> back in a second
[11:48] <Frodo> this is my grub for Ubuntu in menu.lst: title Ubuntu  root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz xxxx initrd /initrd.xxxx
[11:49] <Lathiat> Frodo: whats the problem? (like what error does it give)
[11:49] <StoffBox-Steve> Frodo, i can send you my menu.lst when it helps
[11:49] <Frodo> it does nothing
[11:49] <Frodo> Lathiat: it does nothing at all
[11:50] <Frodo> Steve: thanks for the offer
[11:51] <Frodo> I accepted the offer but it didnt open chat
[11:51] <StoffBox-Steve> :S
[11:51] <Frodo> I pressed accept
[11:51] <Lathiat> Frodo: it should look something like this
[11:52] <Lathiat> (see privmsg)
[11:52] <StoffBox-Steve> join #steve Frodo
[11:52] <Lathiat> the key parts to note are the root line, and root=/dev/hdX on the kernel line
[11:52] <Lathiat> make sure your root (hdX,X) is set right, etc
[11:53] <Frodo> that is exactly what it looks like
[11:53] <KING^^^> so ... please help me to fix this problem , my sound plays too fast in everything , in XMMS in XINE ...
[11:54] <macewan> is this after an upgrade?
[11:54] <Frodo> #steve
[11:54] <StoffBox-Steve> : /join #steve , Frodo :D
[11:56] <delltony> question anyone knwo what the cause to this problem might be. i use the ndiswrapper on my broadcom wireless card in hoary. and all is well but when i reboot i have to sudo ifdown -a then sudo ifup -a for it to be able to use the internet. any ideas?
[11:56] <Lathiat> delltony: most likely ndiswrapper is being loaded after it initially brings up the interfaces
[11:57] <delltony> that was my thought as well is there a way to prevent that ?
[11:57] <Lathiat> well you could try move ndiswrapper earlier in the boot process
[11:57] <Lathiat> the easiest thing is to probably add a script after ndiswrapper starts just to bring up th einterface then
[11:58] <BrianAnthony> how do I start ssh?
[11:58] <Jug_> just putting ndiswrapper to /etc/modules works for me
[11:58] <delltony> ok the later sounds better if you don't mind could you help me in doing that?
[11:58] <Lathiat> or you could try what Jug_ said
[11:58] <delltony> well i did the ndiswrapper -m thing
[11:58] <HrdwrBoB> BrianAnthony: apt-get install ssh
[11:58] <Lathiat> that sounds sane, assuming just loading ndiswrapper picks up the things, i haven't relaly used it
[11:58] <delltony> is that what you were talking about Jug_ ?
[11:59] <Lathiat> delltony: edit the /etc/modules file, add ndiswrapper on a line by itself at the end of the file (if its not already there)
[11:59] <BrianAnthony> HrdwrBoB: I already installed ssh how do I start the service?
[11:59] <Jug_> well check if ndiswrapper is listed in /etc/modules
[11:59] <marcin_ant> hello
[11:59] <Lathiat> BrianAnthony: it should have already started
[11:59] <delltony> ok hang on let me look
[11:59] <marcin_ant> I got a problem with ppp connection
[11:59] <Lathiat> BrianAnthony: if not, /etc/init.d/ssh start
[11:59] <Marble2> what does ./.ICEauthority do
[11:59] <Brunellus> ok
[12:00] <Marble2> i tried to login and it gave me errors for that, I went and chmodded it to read write and execute for all