[02:44] <sammy> Roscar: because a lot of your packages are out of date, and newer, tested, 'stable' versions are available that people have released. as long as you're already getting security updates, that's the only reason. it's been either 6 months or a year, so there's probably a good number of fixes and feature updates, probably hundreds? thousands?
[02:44] <bazhang> Millertime_018: today is release day
[02:44] <bbyever> i opened the update-manager and checked for updated and there were none, so i proceeded to upgrade to hardy, and while the upgrade was starting, update-manager said there were 710 updates available. Then a window came up and asked me if i wanted a partial upgrade.. should i do that, or the upgrade to hardy?
[02:44] <marko-_-> you must understand this..
[02:44] <Millertime_018> marko-_-: what does that mean?
[02:44] <tanath> sean_, oi
[02:44] <taxman> ok, does anybody know the correct path at cdimage for hardy? I have the beta and I'd like to rsync so I don't have to waste someone's bandwidth for the whole iso. The script I have to rsync the dailies gets them from rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily-live/current what would be the path for the LTS?
[02:45] <caveman26> where can I get a new sources.list? I screwed up my apt and need a new sources.list... for gutsy
[02:45] <tanath> sean_, ccsm?
[02:45] <Stroganoff> blankhead look up HorizSync and VertRefresh in your Xorg.conf
[02:45] <Millertime_018> bazhang: they dont do updates on the release day?
[02:45] <Pelo> Roscar, that's all I have, ask again periodicaly
[02:45] <newscane> i'm trying to debootstrap, and i keep getting messages about "failure trying to run chroot /target mount -t proc proc /proc".  ideas?  trying this after booting under floppies from sarge.
[02:45] <chibi_killstick> does anyone know how to fix this error: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: cairo_xlib_surface_create
[02:45] <sean_> tanath: yup
[02:45] <bazhang> Millertime_018: be patient
[02:45] <bod_> mojo, yer,. you have to request it in #ubuntu-ops   you used to be able to add things at your leisure butpeople abused it (iirc)
[02:45] <chibi_killstick> i get it whenever i try to run synaptic
[02:45] <marko-_-> that too many people are downloadaing stuff from the server Millertime_018 ... and the server doesn't have a super connection you know
[02:45] <rich_freecomm> goat|work that's nice...rich_freecomm here....rich_freecomm_ there and once those are used...I'll be rich_freecomm_____ on another server :P
[02:45] <tanath> sean_, define "isn't working" :P
[02:45] <sean_> tanath: "This problem report does not apply to a packaged program" (/usr/bin/ccsm)
[02:45] <Millertime_018> oh...
[02:45] <Millertime_018> so... tomorrow?
[02:45] <Millertime_018> or the next day?
[02:45] <seamus7> Millertime_018: it's the same as going to get an iphone the day it's release .... long lines and waiting
[02:45] <marko-_-> i will upgrade in 2 days
[02:45] <mojo> bod_::  so i move to that chan and can add/update the bot?
[02:45] <tanath> o.O
[02:45] <binarybandit> chibi_killstick, I had that issue at one point
[02:45] <Millertime_018> ooooh. so will it work after a while?
[02:45] <Pelo> chibi_killstick, sudo apt-get remove  synaptic --purge &&  sudo apt-get install synaptic
[02:46] <bod_> mojo, no you have to ask the operators to add it
[02:46] <marko-_-> Millertime_018, it will
[02:46] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: what did you do?
[02:46] <marko-_-> try tomorrow
[02:46] <chibi_killstick> Pelo: interesting...let's go for it
[02:46] <binarybandit> on gentoo, but same idea, it was a missing symlink
[02:46] <MachinTrucChose_> does Ubuntu not have a Terminal font? The X-Chat screenshots show it, but it's not in the list. Is it called something else in Ubuntu?
[02:46] <bazhang> the more you ask Millertime_018 the faster it will work
[02:46] <Pelo> Millertime_018,  it,s still fresh ,  give it a week for updates
[02:46] <didy> Guys..... anyone play Daoc via wine here????
[02:46] <didy> Guys..... anyone play Daoc via wine here????
[02:46] <seamus7> Millertime_018: yes ... I've started upgrading to the Release Candidate a few days before the official release just so that I avoid all the web jams
[02:46] <twinkie_addict> ooo its installing :)
[02:46] <Pelo> didy, ask in #winehq
[02:46] <twinkie_addict> wubi is a nice little app
[02:46] <LainIwakura> What does deprecated mean? I see it all the time.
[02:46] <caveman26> I need a new sources.list for kubuntu gutsy, any1 know where I can get one?
[02:47] <Millertime_018> bazhang: sorry for aggravating you lol...
[02:47] <c0mp13371331337_> LainIwakura-  Old
[02:47] <MachinTrucChose_> twinkkie: it certainly is. I got 2 people at work to try Linux because of Wubi
[02:47]  * Pelo eyes the window user suspiciously,
[02:47] <bod_> caveman26, on the live cd
[02:47] <LainIwakura> c0mp13371331337_: Thanks.
[02:47] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: did you ever fix it?
[02:47] <seamus7> Lainlwakura: deprecated means it is an older version that will be phased out
[02:47] <Millertime_018> bazhang: my bad
[02:47] <Stroganoff> blankhead: http://www.dkfz-heidelberg.de/spec/linux/modeline/
[02:47] <pen> anyone here know how to use avatar-factory??
[02:47] <caveman26> where?
[02:47] <binarybandit> caveman26, yeah
[02:47] <blankhead> stroganoff ok i did now what do i do in the xorg.conf horizsync verrefresh
[02:47] <genji_> hi everyone
[02:47] <caveman26> I looked on the liveCD
[02:47] <binarybandit> chibi_killstick*
[02:47] <chibi_killstick> Pelo: meh...still doesn't work
[02:47] <caveman26> couldnt find one
[02:47] <binarybandit> chibi_killstick, was awhile back, took some googling
[02:47] <benh> somebody knows how to find the .config used by the kernel on the installer ?
[02:47] <didy> no reply lol
[02:47] <Pelo> chibi_killstick, what is this ?  7.10,  and upgrade ? what ?
[02:47] <didy> Guys..... anyone play Daoc via wine here????
[02:47] <jPratt> !wine
[02:47] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[02:47] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: i tried google and didn't get much of an answer...
[02:47] <bbyever>  i opened the update-manager and checked for updated and there were none, so i proceeded to upgrade to hardy, and while the upgrade was starting, update-manager said there were 710 updates available. Then a window came up and asked me if i wanted a partial upgrade.. should i do that, or the upgrade to hardy?
[02:47] <twinkie_addict> was going to setup astandard dualboot but i read about wubi and thought that might be better knowing vista
[02:48] <ubuntu__> darn "wubi" sounds call
[02:48] <ubuntu__> i started with knoppix
[02:48] <didy> !appdb
[02:48] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[02:48] <jPratt> !appdb
[02:48] <Pelo> benh, what do you need that for ?
[02:48] <Stroganoff> blankhead: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[02:48] <chibi_killstick> Pelo: actually i'm running andLinux, which basically runs ubuntu inside windows
[02:48] <smallfoot-> when i run "Blender (windowed)" from menu, it runs in fullscreen why?
[02:48] <chibi_killstick> i updated something and borked synaptic somehow
[02:48] <KyleK> twinkie_addict: grub works fine on my laptop
[02:48] <Ubuntong> How can I open a TCP port in Ubuntu?
[02:48] <twinkie_addict> gota reboot
[02:48] <seamus7> bbyever: fully update guts before upgrading to hardy
[02:48] <Tailsfan> Hello, What is a good Wi-Fi Manager
[02:48] <FJSS> my sound quit working. Xine says "the audio device is unavailable check to see if something else is using it" but I have nothing else running. How do I reset the soundcard???
[02:48] <rich_freecomm_> I guess I'll have to put up with not being the same name on BOTH servers
[02:48] <chibi_killstick> Pelo: i'd like to prevent having to reinstall andLinux, but i think i may be out of luck
[02:48] <Fritzel> what was with the mass kick of ubuntu+1 earlier? is it live time?
[02:48] <ubuntu__> you want a wifi manager?
[02:48] <bazhang> Tailsfan: the command line
[02:48] <Pelo> bbyever, not a good idea to upgrade online today,  the servers are under heavy load,   dl the dvd or the alternate cd iso ,  upgrade from that
[02:48] <ubuntu__> try windows wifi
[02:48] <didy> .......................................
[02:48] <ubuntu__> i heard its really good
[02:48] <KyleK> Fritzel: well hardy is the new official, so yea?
[02:48] <Tailsfan> I'm looking for one what shows the MAC address of non-connected networks
[02:49] <blankhead> stroganoff: what is that link suppose to do?
[02:49] <caveman26> where is the sources.list on the cd?
[02:49] <genji_> I try to run a few commands at startup, putting these in my /etc/rc.local (I also tried rc-update.d myscript default). Some of them are executed, but others  are not (such as "echo 1500 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs"). It seems like the one I can run using sudo are executed, and the ones requiring a sudo -i are not. Does anyone have a solution? Cheers
[02:49] <benh> Pelo: check if it has CONFIG_VIRTUAL_MMAP=y
[02:49] <Fritzel> ahh good deal
[02:49] <bazhang> ubuntu__: stop it please
[02:49] <Stroganoff> blankhead READ THE HOWTO: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[02:49] <bbyever> seamus7: i thought so, so i closed the update windows and when i did so the 710 updates disappeared.
[02:49] <benh> Pelo: it might explain some issues with the PS3 installer
[02:49] <ubuntu__> im just teasing
[02:49] <bazhang> !ot | ubuntu__
[02:49] <ubotu> ubuntu__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:49] <chibi_killstick> Pelo: it's running the 2.6.12 kernel (coLinux version)...no idea as to what version of ubuntu that's correlated to
[02:49] <Pelo> chibi_killstick, this is a virutual machine ?  donT' know about those,  you would be better off with a regular install
[02:49] <Jordanjay29> Having an issue with my Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 02) wireless card. Checked community wiki, it's not very helpful.
[02:49] <didy> .......................................
[02:49] <binarybandit> chibi_killstick, do you have the X use flag set?
[02:49] <binarybandit> oh
[02:49] <sammy> genji_: can you put that line in your sysctl config file? are all of them setting things in proc/sys?
[02:49] <binarybandit> not gentoo
[02:50] <ubuntu__> ok sorry guys, i will leave. ciao
[02:50] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: lol, no
[02:50] <Jordanjay29> This something that, perhaps, might be fixed when update servers are unswamped again?
[02:50] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: I just used ndiswrapper with some drivers from compaq
[02:50] <FJSS> can anyone tell me how to reset my soundcard?
[02:50] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: that's another machine
[02:50] <seamus7> bbyever: just do sudo apt-get update and see what hapeens ... do it twice ... then do the hardy upgrade ... but I also recommend downloading the iso  and via bittorrent otherwise expect DELAYS
[02:50] <Pelo> !enter | binarybandit
[02:50] <ubotu> binarybandit: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:50] <genji_> sammy: nope, I also try to modify /sys/class/scsi_host/host0/link_power_management_policy
[02:50] <rich_freecomm_> I think I'll copy/paste the change each time I wanna say something
[02:50] <sammy> bbyever: seamus7 speaks the truth.
[02:50] <binarybandit> >.<
[02:50] <Pelo> !sound > FJSS
[02:50] <genji_> sammy: I can try, sure
[02:50] <Fritzel> so when does ubuntu+1 get reopened for the next dist
[02:50] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: And that worked well?
[02:50] <bbyever> seamus7: ok i'll download the torrent.
[02:51] <Ubuntong> How can I open port 80 for Apache2?
[02:51] <KyleK> Fritzel: when they start working on the next dist
[02:51] <binarybandit> chibi_killstick, http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-644312-highlight-.html?sid=9bd1a51a231fd8669bfd2a85bb4eea35 <-- that's what I used
[02:51]  * r11t is sad. upgrade from 7.10 -> 8.04 has stalled after getting so close to completion
[02:51] <didy> ...............
[02:51] <seamus7> Fritzel lol
[02:51] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: im still fighting with NetworkManager
[02:51] <Ubuntong> How can I open port 80 for Apache2 on my LAN?
[02:51] <binarybandit> wait, no it wasn't
[02:51] <moDumass> hey all, so ive upgraded/dated but i cant turn on restricted spftware sources, and therefor cant turn on desktop effects and therefore cant turn on compizfusion delightfullness
[02:51] <moDumass> any ideas
[02:51] <bazhang> didy: you have a support question?
[02:51] <moDumass> no deskktop effects
[02:51] <erat123> Ubuntong: you need to configure port forwarding on your router
[02:51]  * Pelo spent most of his day playing around making a gfxboot theme and a gnome-splash , to fit the rest of the new orange themeing stuff he got
[02:51] <sammy> genji_: see if putting those /proc/sys changes into sysctl.conf works for you. that's where they're "supposed" to go, I guess.
[02:51] <Fritzel> seamus7, KyleK, -nod- alright just habit of seeing +1 on my channel list
[02:51] <smallfoot-> i installed CCSM,a nd i cant select "custom" in effects in appearance
[02:51] <tinin> !midi
[02:51] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[02:51] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: sounds promising /sarcasm
[02:51] <FJSS> pelo: I tried !sound but it says event not found
[02:51] <genji_> sammy: OK. I'll try to find out the syntax
[02:51] <didy> Bazhang: im just wondering does darkage of camelot work in wine 0.59!
[02:51] <yell0w> Ubuntong: open firefox, go to <IP_ADDRESS> , most routers would have their confi there , then set up port forwarding for port 80
[02:52] <Pelo> moDumass, the servers are under heavy load , be patient
[02:52] <Ubuntong> erat123: I only want it open on the LAN side not the public side.
[02:52] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: killall NetworkManager and NetworkManagerDispatcher
[02:52] <bazhang> didy: try it and see or join #winehq
[02:52] <CaptainMorgan> !alternate
[02:52] <ubotu> The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[02:52] <sammy> genji_: the syntax is in the file, or try man sysctl.conf :)
[02:52] <moDumass> Pelo, but the option should be there regardless though right, its not
[02:52] <Pelo> FJSS, check in admin > user , make sure your username has permission to " user sound device"
[02:52] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: but that's the gentoo answer...i need one for ubuntu
[02:52] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: And to restart them?
[02:52] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: I may have just needed to tick off a checkbox saying that its open wep though ;)
[02:52] <binarybandit> yeah :/
[02:52] <erat123> Ubuntong: oh, then you shouldnt have to configure anything else.  all computers on the same lan should be able to see your computer on port 80
[02:52] <LainIwakura> Can someone help me? I cannot get "sudo pppoeconf" to work? Thanks.
[02:52] <Pelo> moDumass, where are y ou looking ?
[02:52] <binarybandit> chibi_killstick, well, all I could reccomend is to reinstall cairo and gtk
[02:52] <soulwarp_> is it possible to upgrade my 7.10-8.04 through the install CD?
[02:53] <moDumass> system preferences
[02:53] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: lol. Private chat work better?
[02:53] <didy> .................
[02:53] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: i did try that and didn't seem to get anywhere...let's try again
[02:53] <Pelo> LainIwakura,  do you have admin priviledge ?
[02:53] <rich_freecomm_> I'll get this eventually....
[02:53] <genji_> sammy: :p The man isn't really helpful (or I missed something), nor are the comments in the file
[02:53] <LainIwakura> Pelo: Yes.
[02:53] <bazhang> alternate cd yes soulwarp_
[02:53] <DBautell> soulwarp_, To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO or the DVD: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO/DVD. To mount the ISO you can 'mount -o loop nameofiso /path/to/mount/'
[02:53] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: I'll see if I have the page I used open
[02:53] <rich_freecomm_>   /nickserv password realpassword    doesn't quite work now
[02:53] <moDumass> Pelo System>preferences used to have "desktop effects" i think, id enable them and things would be fine
[02:53] <genji_> sammy: they tell you how to assign values to specific tokens, but I don't know what the syntax of my token is
[02:53] <Pelo> LainIwakura, when you say you can'T get it to work  ? which part ? command does not start or you get through it but it won't work ?
[02:53] <genji_> sammy: if it's the full path or something else
[02:53] <LainIwakura> Pelo: It finds only two ethernet devices: eth0 and wlan0. In Gutsy, I remember it finding at least 4 devices.
[02:53] <Ubuntong> erat123: Im running wordpress blog on Ubuntu. Localhost works fine but no other workstations on my LAN can connect to it. Any ideas?
[02:53] <soulwarp_> thanks
[02:53] <meoblast001> Pelo: should i be trusting Canonical? lol
[02:53] <bbyever> seamus7: i got this http://pastebin.com/d14c9c401
[02:53] <sammy> genji_: it looks like you just replace the /'s with .'s
[02:53] <CaptainMorgan> great... that makes two CDs that hang... apparently the new release doesn't like my hardware or software for that matter.... wtf
[02:53] <CaptainMorgan> ftw
[02:54] <meoblast001> Pelo: all i ever got off them in the past was free
[02:54] <tremby> having trouble updating -- are the repositories overloaded at the moment?
[02:54] <Pelo> moDumass, LainIwakura doyou get online ?
[02:54] <psych_> why ubuntu didnt create my swap partition
[02:54] <psych_> i saw it when installing
[02:54] <moDumass> Pelo, indeed
[02:54] <flowbot> hey, i remember seeing a link on planet ubuntu or somewhere about upgrading a Hardy beta image to full release via rsync ... anyone know this link?
[02:54] <binarybandit> chibi_killstick, another option is to menacingly hold a vista dvd in front of you computer
[02:54] <Fritzel> ok well synaptic will no longer reload sources it gets stuck  any idea what that's about?
[02:54] <seamus7> moDumass look in System/Preferences/Appearance/DesktopEffectsTab
[02:54] <psych_> like it was about to do it
[02:54] <binarybandit> that should scare it into submission
[02:54] <psych_> but it didnt
[02:54] <chibi_killstick> binarybandit: lol!
[02:54] <LainIwakura> Pelo: It says that it cannot find any devices for it to work or something along those lines. That is, it doesn't allow me to enter my username and password. I cannot get online.
[02:54] <corbett> hi, is there anyone who can help me get my maxtor external hard drive mounted and working on ububtu 7.10 - which ive just loaded on pc to replace windows, it worked perfectly fine elsewhere on widows
[02:54] <osmosis> how do I get twinview to work with nvidia_new ?
[02:54] <MachinTrucChose_> If I try to download Konversation (the KDE IRC client), it will download the KDE libraries, right? Does that mean I'm going to have system libraries loaded all the time, increasing my OS memory usage, or just when I'm using Konversation?
[02:54] <genji_> sammy: thanks
[02:54] <Shadow_X> anyone else been having problems with synaptic timing out today?
[02:54] <Shadow_X> rather, just apt, in general
[02:54] <Pelo> moDumass, check that the repos are all enabled in the 1st and 3rd tab of the software sources in the admin menu,   then check for the restricted drvier for your hardware in the admin menu under restricted drivefr
[02:54] <bbyever> seamus7: the second time i didnt get the error messages
[02:55] <erat123> Ubuntong: can you ping your web server from another client computer?
[02:55] <caveman26> I tried upgrading... it broke apt, I need a new sources.list and cant find one, some1 said it was on the live cd, but where is it on the cd? I cant find it
[02:55] <bazhang> Shadow_X: nearly everyone
[02:55] <phaedra> Shadow_X, It happens every realease day
[02:55] <Jordanjay29> MachinTrucChose: I just downloaded Konversation and am using it right now. IT doesn't download KDe libraries
[02:55] <FJSS> pelo: I have permission for sound but I still get the "resource busy" error
[02:55] <moDumass> Pelo, you mean  System/Preferences/Appearance/visual effects?
[02:55] <binarybandit> your*
[02:55] <MachinTrucChose_> jorday: OK, thanks
[02:55] <Pelo> LainIwakura, that's a bit over my head , sorry
[02:55] <d33d> I'm looking for help with Atheros 242X drivers...where should I start?
[02:55] <rich_freecomm> ok...temporarily I'm back as rich_freecomm
[02:55] <nxusr> anyone seen thise : "Flash Player: Warning: environment variable G_FILENAME_ENCODING is set and is not UTF-8"
[02:55] <LainIwakura> Pelo: Alright, thanks.
[02:55] <Shadow_X> thats what i thought. i just wanted to make sure it was the servers themselves, not just my machine
[02:55] <moDumass> if i select anything other than "none" it throws up an error
[02:55] <meoblast001> Pelo: im gonna go to school with that shirt when i get it, and everyones gonna say sweet @$$ shirt
[02:55] <rich_freecomm> (until I want to say something on the other server) :D
[02:55] <Pelo> FJSS, where does it say resourse busy ?
[02:56] <Ubuntong> erat123:  yeah, I just figured out that I can open the generic Apache2 site too.  It must be a Wordpress thing?
[02:56] <Shadow_X> im like... 75% done with the amd64 iso of 8.04 FINALLY lol
[02:56] <moDumass> Pelo, "desktop effects could not be enabled"
[02:56] <psych_> should i create swap partition manually when instaling?
[02:56] <Ubuntong> erat123:  Could it be permissions? hmmm..
[02:56] <FJSS> on my music player rythmbox
[02:56] <Auctionedllama> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu on my teachers laptop, and all she really uses it for, is to browse the web and to power our "smartboard" projector during school. Now I went to the smartboards website, and got their linux version, and when I went to install it, it said could not install package, but yet the system meets the requirements.. can someone help me out with this? Thanks
[02:56] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/softpaq/sp34001-34500/sp34152.exe
[02:56] <erat123> Ubuntong: yeah, it must be.  i'm not familiar with wordpress, but i looked it up so now i'm installing it :-)
[02:56] <Pelo> moDumass, what is your video card ?
[02:56] <erat123> Ubuntong: that would be a good place to start looking
[02:56] <FJSS> Pelo: on my music player rythmbox
[02:56] <rich_freecomm_> all this cutting and pasting each time is a pain in the butt
[02:57] <Ubuntong> erat123: Wordpress is  pretty awesome.
[02:57] <erat123> Ubuntong: is it a blogging tool?
[02:57] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: I have an HP. I know they're the same company, but is that just the driver for Windows from the Compaq site?
[02:57] <erat123> Ubuntong: like an editor?
[02:57] <Pelo> FJSS, check in menu > system  > prefs, sound  make sure the audio card is selected for each event
[02:57] <Pelo> Auctionedllama, what kind of pakcage did you get from the site ?
[02:57] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: If that's the case, I know where I can find the driver for my version and computer
[02:58] <Ubuntong> erat123:  yes, and it's easy enough for me to use. That says a lot. :) You'll want to get some templates for it too.
[02:58] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: I cant find the page that linked it, but it had a table of which specific ones work with which driver, and I matched the PCI ID
[02:58] <bbyever> seamus7: its also asked me for a restart, so im doing that now...
[02:58] <bbyever> seamus7: thanks
[02:58] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: I've also got an HP, DV6624CA :)
[02:58] <GerbilSoft> ok is it just me, or is preseeding completely broken on 8.04
[02:58] <Auctionedllama> it came in a tar.gz,  nd I extracted it, and there was a file just called smartboardinsstallblahblahpackage
[02:58] <Ubuntong> erat123: You'll need PHP and Mysql too
[02:58] <Pelo> GerbilSoft, torrent ? the dvd worked fine here
[02:58] <moDumass> Pelo, geforce fx5950ultra
[02:58] <h00k> I broke my nVidia card already -- apparently.  I had just reinstalled completely. :)
[02:58] <Auctionedllama> and I clicked it, and it ran, etc etc and then said it couldn't install
[02:58] <yago> hi,I'm installing 8.04 and I have a problem, that it shows "Configuring chillispot (1.0-8) ..", and it's stop,
[02:59] <yago>  what can I do?
[02:59] <GerbilSoft> Pelo: i'm setting up a network install for a bunch of systems
[02:59] <FJSS> pelo: everything in the pref/ sound looks good
[02:59] <myf> my update-manager won't response after i press the upgrade button, anybody knows why?
[02:59] <Pelo> moDumass, go to , menu > system > admin > restricted driver
[02:59] <GerbilSoft> ubuntu refuses to recognize that there's a preseed file specified in the kernel command line
[02:59] <GerbilSoft> (it worked on 7.10)
[02:59] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: What website? Is it in your history?
[02:59] <Auctionedllama> pelo, any suggestions?
[02:59] <rconan> anyone had any luck installing hardy onto a fakeraid? I was looking at htis but it seems to go wrong at the partitioning part. The installer treats each partition on my RAID as a disk and makes a partition table for each one
[02:59] <Pelo> GerbilSoft, sorry don'T know about taht one,  I donT' knwo about networkd deployment
[02:59] <GerbilSoft> k
[02:59] <moparisthebest> where can i find a list of package server mirrors?
[02:59] <sammy> GerbilSoft: are you sure debconf didn't eat your menu.1st? (assuming you're using grub)
[02:59] <Odd-rationale> what is the command to start a gnome session?
[02:59] <GerbilSoft> i'm using PXELINUX
[03:00] <Pelo> Auctionedllama, what was the ending of the pakcage name ?
[03:00] <GerbilSoft> the exact same configuration works on 7.10
[03:00] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: firefox is lousy at searching through history, but I remember all the commands :)
[03:00] <rconan> sorry... was looking at this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=464758
[03:00] <erat123> Ubuntong: i installed wordpress through the repository, but how do i do anything w/ it?
[03:00] <myf> my update-manager won't response after i press the upgrade button, anybody knows why?
[03:00] <Zambezi> Anyone know how to install from bzr? I install some packages namned bzrtools and similar. But I still need help to install from .bzr.
[03:00] <GerbilSoft> and i already hacked the 8.04alt initrd once because the preseed fetch methods didn't include http for some reason
[03:00] <sammy> moparisthebest: you can use synaptic to have it find the closest one for you with a ping test
[03:00] <Auctionedllama> UHM
[03:00] <mvinsc> i still have to use ndiswrapper
[03:00] <Auctionedllama> pelo: there was none
[03:00] <Pelo> Auctionedllama, never heard of those ,  look for a .deb package or for the source file,
[03:00] <moDumass> Pelo, this is what im tryingt o get sorted "there is no Restricted Driver" option
[03:00] <Ubuntong> erat123: Do you have Apache2, Mysql and PHP installed?
[03:01] <mikebot> If I am using 7.10, and I want to upgrade to 8.04, do I want the alternate cd from the website, or the regular one?
[03:01] <Pelo> !ati > moDumass check for a private message windows with instructions from ubotu
[03:01] <professor_> anyone else having problem with updates
[03:01] <Pelo> mikebot, the alternate cd
[03:01] <HardyOne> !upgrade | mikebot
[03:01] <ubotu> mikebot: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:01] <professor_> with it taking long to load
[03:01] <mikebot> Pelo: And once I have that, is it straight-forward how to upgrade?
[03:01] <Ubuntong> erat123: If so then go to your web browser and go to http://localhost/wordpress
[03:01] <mikebot> HardyOne: Thanks.
[03:01] <Pelo> professor_, the servers are under heavy load,  be patient or get the alternate cd
[03:01] <moDumass> Pele its  nvidia card, but thanks
[03:01] <moDumass> !nvidia
[03:01] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:01] <Auctionedllama> pelo: k, one sec bbl
[03:02] <Jordanjay29> KyleK: Wouldn't be this one, would it? http://linuxwireless.sipsolutions.net/en/users/Drivers/b43#supported
[03:02] <taxman> Zambezi: if you're trying to install nonstandard stuff, be careful. I hope it is on a test machine or you have very recent backups
[03:02] <HardyOne> mikebot: you pop in the cd boot up and then choose upgrade
[03:02] <professor_> sure I just wanted to make sure
[03:02] <p0w3r0n3> hey
[03:02] <KyleK> professor_: switch the mirros
[03:02] <Pelo> mikebot,  just burn it and put it back in the cd drive,  you should bet a windows asking you to add as repos or upgrade
[03:02] <p0w3r0n3> trying to run a unzip -a on an .exe and it fails in hardon....
[03:02] <seamus7> bbyever: sorry did someone help you ... I looked at your pastebin and it looks like you just had two package managers open at once ... you can only have one before it will work properly
[03:02] <p0w3r0n3> how do i do it?
[03:02] <wwalker> anyone else having long hangs in apt-get?
[03:02] <mikebot> Pelo: HardyOne: Thanks.
[03:02] <taxman> Zambezi: other than that, I know nothing specific about what you're trying
[03:02] <Pelo> HardyOne, donT,no need to boot
[03:02] <KyleK> Jordanjay29: I tried both of those actually
[03:02] <taxman> wwalker: the servers are getting hammered
[03:02] <p0w3r0n3> mikebot, huh?
[03:03] <KyleK> err both b43 and bcm43xx
[03:03] <Pelo> wwalker, it's upgrade day the servers aer under heavy load,  be patient or use the cd
[03:03] <moDumass> Pelo - this is a bit of a step backwards
[03:03] <szx0> How can I debug why my bind9 server won't start (it fails)... where can I find the log files?
[03:03] <CaptainMorgan> why does burning speed matter for Ubuntu ?
[03:03] <HardyOne> Pelo: ah really? I was not aware of that. mikebot apperently no need to reboot. just put the cd in drive
[03:03] <wwalker> taxman: Pelo: thanks for the info
[03:03] <favoritefood0> Hey, I used the beta, and I have the same problem in the new version of ubuntu.
[03:03] <Pelo> moDumass, that's the only thing I know atm
[03:03] <favoritefood0> In all the others, my DVD drive worked perfectly.
[03:03] <yago> I have a big problem with the update, someone can help me?
[03:03] <favoritefood0> Now I can't get it to open or close inside Ubuntu.
[03:04] <moDumass> thats cool, its more that "restricted driver" option should be in system admin
[03:04] <rich_freecomm_> ooooh, so you are SUPPOSED to use different nicknames on different servers...I see
[03:04] <moDumass> but its not
[03:04] <Zambezi> taxman: It's my main machine. It's an official project, but pre alpha stage.
[03:04] <Pelo> HardyOne, that,s waht it did for me when I put the dvd it , I was just expecting it to ask to be added to the repos list but it also offered to upgrade
[03:04] <navreet> how come my gutsy machine is not asking me to upgrade??
[03:04] <p0w3r0n3> trying to run a unzip -a on an .exe and it fails in hardon....
[03:04] <taxman> Zambezi: yikes, be careful. make backups first
[03:04] <p0w3r0n3> trying to run a unzip -a on an .exe and it fails in hardy... woops :p
[03:04] <sammy> rich_freecomm_: all the servers are connected to the same network, think of it as redundancy. you *can't* have the same nick on two servers on the same network.
[03:04]  * CaptainMorgan has not had a pleasant experience thus far.....
[03:04] <navreet> p0l0ni0, hardon?
[03:04] <HardyOne> Pelo: another way Ubuntu makes upgrading easy :)
[03:04] <Pelo> favoritefood0, sudo umount -f /mountpoint
[03:04] <KyleK> lol
[03:04] <navreet> p0l0ni0, lol
[03:04] <taxman> yago, ask specifically please
[03:04] <favoritefood0> Pelo, it doesn't OPEN.
[03:05] <c0mp13371331337_> navreet-  You don't have the Hardy repos in your sources.list file.
[03:05] <Pelo> CaptainMorgan, sorry to hear that
[03:05] <Zambezi> taxman: Word! I'll hold for awhile then. I have to stick with Pidgin for now. :-/
[03:05] <favoritefood0> As in, if I physically hit the open button on the drive, it won't do a thing.
[03:05] <Pelo> favoritefood0, that would make it open , the -f is to force
[03:05] <navreet> c0mp13371331337_, i was hoping I didn't have to do it manually, i wanted to see if it really worked out of the box
[03:05] <harsha> What is a swap drive?
[03:05] <Pelo> harsha, RAM extension on your hdd
[03:06] <favoritefood0> the standard mount point for dvd drives is /mount/dvd right?
[03:06] <Pelo> favoritefood0, is it unmounted from your desktop ?
[03:06] <Zambezi> Pelo: I couldn't say it better myself. Thumbs up!
[03:06] <rich_freecomm_> sammy: sounds silly...I want to log into the server and be in many channels under the same name......
[03:06] <favoritefood0> On my desktop I see "Blank CD"
[03:06] <HardyOne> Pelo: you know what the user peak was for #ubuntu today?
[03:06] <favoritefood0> and I know the drive is empty.
[03:06] <rich_freecomm_> sammy: I would think that would be how people would know who you are
[03:06] <Pelo> favoritefood0,  /media/Blank_CD
[03:06] <meoblast001> How Canonical Makes Money -> https://shop.canonical.com/support.php?osCsid=be08b645960fddf8cdc1f4c1f2e4e73e
[03:06] <c0mp13371331337_> navreet-  It's just a matter of changing every instance of 'gutsy' to 'hardy' and running 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[03:06] <Pelo> HardyOne, no
[03:07] <rich_freecomm_> sammy: so what's your name on Freenode?
[03:07] <yago> Well, I had used a Cd to update Kubuntu 8.04, every was great untill display showed "configurating chillispot (1.0-8) ...", then it stopped, and I shutdown, then now I cannot do nothing
[03:07] <erat123> Ubuntong: i installed everything, but when i go to http://localhost/wordpress, it tries to download a phtml file
[03:07] <navreet> c0mp13371331337_, yep... i know, but i just want to see it prompt me for an upgrade, i just wanted to see if it worked... btw, what's the best way to upgrade?
[03:07] <professor_> KyleK, how do I switch the mirros
[03:07] <juano__> kubuntu 8.04 out already ?
[03:07] <navreet> c0mp13371331337_, should I use bittorrent to download the release?? and then mount it via loopback?
[03:07] <Odd-rationale> juano__: yes
[03:07] <harsha> Pelo: ok, I was asked to create a swap drive while installation of Ubuntu, is it required only while installation or that space will be used even after installation?
[03:07] <myf> sorry for repeating but my update-manager won't response after i press the upgrade button, anybody knows why?
[03:07] <KyleK> professor_: its under settings
[03:07] <juano__> Odd-rationale: thanks :)
[03:07] <navreet> c0mp13371331337_, would that be best? (in terms of not using ubuntu server's bandwidths)
[03:07] <KyleK> like Settings -> Software Sources
[03:08] <Pelo> favoritefood0, take a paperclip, unbend it ,  look on the cd drive face, just below the try , little pin point  hole,  sick the papeclip in it and puch
[03:08] <favoritefood0> I did that.
[03:08] <favoritefood0> That's how I know it's empty.
[03:08] <Skuller> Hey guys, I'm trying to install 7.10 on a school PC but it ends up being at the terminal sort of prompt and it says 'busybox' at the top. I tried 7.04 and it works sweet. Any suggestions?
[03:08] <professor_> KyleK, Im sorry Im a noob , how do I do
[03:08] <favoritefood0> If I put in a disk, it doesn't spin up.
[03:08] <c0mp13371331337_> navreet-  Bittorrent would probably be the fastest at this point, as the Ubuntu servers/mirrors are all bogged down at the moment.  Which may be why it doesn't prompt you to upgrade right away.  They may give a few days for all the manual-upgraders to get it out of their system before rolling out the option to upgrade to the general public.
[03:08] <Pelo> harsha, it's used after ,  make it about 2xram  max 2 gig
[03:08] <Stroganoff> Skuller, press ctrl+alt+f4
[03:08] <nickrud> Skuller when you boot, do f6 (?) and try some of the boot options
[03:08] <navreet> c0mp13371331337_, got it
[03:08] <juano__> Skuller: whats the hardware for that pc ?
[03:09] <thiebaude> 8.04 is nice
[03:09] <KyleK> professor_: System -> Admin -> Softwar Sources
[03:09] <Skuller> Ok I'll try that right now
[03:09] <Venko> Hey, I'm having some issues replacing the gnome-main-menu image in Hardy. I've tried the gconf-editor method and directly replacing the file. After both times I've reloaded gnome-panel with no success.
[03:09] <GerbilSoft> ah ha
[03:09] <Pelo> favoritefood0, might be a bad drive ,  might be a problem with the strap,  might be badly pluged in ,  turn off the comp, open the box, check the connections make sure the power cabloe and the data strap are not damaged
[03:09] <GerbilSoft> apparently the alternate install CD no longer works for network boot
[03:09] <KyleK> and in the middle where it says like USA click that and choose a different mirror, kernel.org is what im using atm
[03:09] <GerbilSoft> so i have to manually get the alt install initrd
[03:09] <favoritefood0> Pelo, it works perfectly in Bios.
[03:09] <Venko> Is this a Hardy bug or am I doing something wrong?
[03:10] <favoritefood0> It worked perfectly 15 mins ago in Feisty.
[03:10] <p0w3r0n3> unzip -a on a .exe in ubuntu hardy... fails... how do i fix this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:10] <favoritefood0> It's DEFINITELY something in Hardy.
[03:10] <Skuller> juano__: its a p4 3.ghz, 1gb RAM, PC, custom complied
[03:10] <Shadow_X> wow this is bad. i just installed xp on my old machine (for using photoshop and other windows based apps i need) and it has no generic driver for my NIC :|
[03:10] <harsha> Pelo: I have 1 GB of ram that means I have to allote 2 GB for swap drive, am I correct?
[03:10] <woddf2> Hello
[03:10] <Pelo> favoritefood0, you can open/close your cd/dvd ddrive from the bios ? that' sa new one to me
[03:10] <woddf2> Update Manager keeps hanging!
[03:10] <Stroganoff> p0w3r0n3: sudo apt-get install unzip
[03:10] <lopin> Actually, manually selecting a mirror close to home is working nicely...
[03:10] <Pelo> harsha, yes
[03:10] <Ubuntong> erat123: I'm no expert but make sure PHP is installed correctly. maybe install myphpadmin so you can make sure it's working.  A kind of shortcut is to install egroupware since it's requirements are PHP, Apache2, Mysql. So you will get everything installed correctly.
[03:10] <TheDukeNY> How do I had my internal hard drive to my desktop?
[03:10] <lopin> Go to software sources, and select a mirror that's closer to you
[03:10] <TheDukeNY> *add
[03:10] <favoritefood0> Pelo, as the computer is going through BIOS, I can hit the open/close button and it will open or close the drive.
[03:10] <juano__> Skuller: hmm ok, was thinking maybe you forgot to check if it was x64 architecture, cause in that case you need to download the x64 cd
[03:10] <rich_freecomm> ahhh
[03:10] <Pelo> woddf2, it's release day the servers are under heavy loads,  get the torrent for the alternate install cd and upgrade from that
[03:10] <harsha> Pelo: Thanks for the help.
[03:11] <favoritefood0> Pelo, the drive also worked perfectly 15 mins ago in Feisty.
[03:11] <p0w3r0n3> Stronganoff, its already installed?
[03:11] <p0w3r0n3> Stronganoff, any other ideas?
[03:11] <Skuller> By the way the problem I mentioned arises when trying to boot off the live version of the OS
[03:11] <p0w3r0n3> Stroganoff, any other ideas?
[03:11] <lopin> Pelo:  I couldn't get that to work, but switching to a local server helped TREMENDOUSLY!
[03:11] <p0w3r0n3> Stroganoff, already installed
[03:11] <Pelo> favoritefood0, I don't have an answer for you , report the bug to launcpad
[03:11] <erat123> Ubuntong: i'll give that a try and see where it goes.  i went to their site, and it looks cool.  i've just never heard of it.  sorry i cant really help you with your problem though.
[03:11] <favoritefood0> Pelo, Okay.
[03:11] <Shadow_X> Pelo, can you perform a standard upgrade from the alternate cd?
[03:11] <lopin> Shadow_X
[03:11] <HardyOne> Shadow_X: yes
[03:11] <DBautell> Shadow_X, To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO or the DVD: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO/DVD. If you don't want to/can't burn a disc, you can 'mount -o loop nameofiso /path/to/mount/'
[03:11] <KyleK> hey can I upgrade from feisty to hardy?
[03:12] <nickrud> favoritefood0 you should do   tail -f /var/log/syslog , try inserting a disk, and including the output in your report
[03:12] <shane2peru> anyone know anything about a DVD iso for ubuntu (of course the 8.04 edition)
[03:12] <favoritefood0> Oh, pelo, get this, Sysinfo detects the drive just fine.
[03:12] <juano__> Odd-rationale: i'm off to try 8.04 now :P:)
[03:12] <Pelo> Shadow_X, yes,  alt cd or dvd, but not from the live cd
[03:12] <Ubuntong> erat123: Thanks and good luck with wordpress.
[03:12] <MachinTrucChose_> MachinTrucChose_,
[03:12] <lopin> Pelo Chaning to a local server helped...
[03:12] <Pelo> favoritefood0, I get the issue I just donT' have a fix for you
[03:12] <MachinTrucChose_> sorry, just testing
[03:12] <professor_> KyleK, and then what
[03:12] <Shadow_X> yea i know not from livecd, but its been forever since i used the alt. thanks :)
[03:12] <myf> hi, how many people has been able to upgrade to hardy here?
[03:12] <shane2peru> in particular, where to get the DVD iso?
[03:12] <lopin> I can't use the alt cd to upgrade...
[03:12] <blankhead> does anyone know how to get into text only mode in hardy heron?
[03:12] <lopin> It locks...
[03:12] <Pelo> lopin, helped with what ?
[03:12] <HardyOne> MachinTrucChose_: this text should be red
[03:12] <DBautell> !torrents
[03:12] <ubotu> Hardy can be torrented from http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).
[03:12] <Odd-rationale> juano__: go for it. I'm seeding all the alternative cd's :)
[03:12] <thiebaude> i upgraded 3 days ago
[03:12] <favoritefood0> nickrud, what exactly do you mean? I insert a disk and the drive does nothing. I have to open the drive manually, close it manually.
[03:13] <juano__> Odd-rationale: good job :)
[03:13] <KyleK> professor_: after you select a difffernt mirror? close it
[03:13] <MachinTrucChose_> hardyone: thank you
[03:13] <unop> blankhead, ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[03:13] <aubrac> KyleK: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[03:13] <lopin> I finally could download updates by going from us.ubuntu.com to a local server, hosted at WVU
[03:13] <HardyOne> juano__: I am also seeding all the iso's
[03:13] <moon2js> Trying to upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy, but update-manager hangs (Beryl-greys out) on "Preparing to upgrade" and doesn't do anything. Are the repos overloaded or do I have a problem?
[03:13] <cirkit> If you're on 8.04 RC1, will "update manager" be good enough for the upgrade?
[03:13] <KyleK> it'll apt-get update automatiicaly
[03:13] <Stroganoff> p0w3r0n3 maybe the EXE isnt ZIP compressed. try xarchiver
[03:13] <MachinTrucChose_> X-chat is the nicest client so far...LostIRC has no features, neither does Xchat-Gnome. Konversation's pretty cool too, but I guess everyone was right to recommend X-chat.
[03:13] <shane2peru> Thanks DBautell
[03:13] <sammy> lopin: I've been trying to tell people once I changed my mirror everything went quickly, but I guess there is something to wanting more iso discs out there :)
[03:13] <professor_> KyleK, no where do I find the mirror
[03:13] <nickrud> favoritefood0 ooohh, sounds hardware. The disk tray action should have nothing to do with the os
[03:13]  * Pelo is just seeding the dvd , he can only manage 76 kps out
[03:13] <lopin> Sammy ^.^
[03:13] <myf> moon2js: same here
[03:13] <bod_> moon2js, the repo's are being raped
[03:13] <nosa-J> hurray for heron!
[03:13] <shane2peru> or, thanks ubotu lol
[03:14] <juano__> HardyOne: Odd-rationale keep it up, cyou in a while
[03:14] <favoritefood0> nickrud, the thing is is that it worked in feisty a few minutes ago, works in BIOS, it's even detected.
[03:14] <DBautell> shane2peru, I try
[03:14] <jumpkick> need apt-bittorrent
[03:14] <moon2js> so once the repos are recover, it will work?
[03:14] <sammy> MachinTrucChose_: irssi
[03:14] <Tailsfan> What does this mean for when a get a error with this: SET_MODULE_OWNER
[03:14] <Odd-rationale> I have two computer seeding
[03:14] <favoritefood0> I can go into my feisty live CD, and I'll come talk on IRC lol
[03:14] <MachinTrucChose_> sammy: thanks, not a fan of console clients :P
[03:14] <nickrud> favoritefood0 do you dual boot? Will it boot the hardy cd?
[03:14] <KyleK> professor_: download from: its a dropdown, click around in there :)
[03:14] <Millertime_018> how can i get vmware-server to show up in the add/remove applications box?
[03:14] <Pelo> okaratas, I'm out again,  later folks
[03:14] <Shadow_X> another question. do distro upgrades fail often? (I upgraded an old ubuntu server to 7.10, and it failed to reboot properly. i was a n00b then so reinstalled lol)
[03:14] <thiebaude> cya
[03:14] <HardyOne> late Pelo
[03:14] <jPratt> Wow the servers have calmed down thank god
[03:14] <favoritefood0> nickrud; I just upgraded from feisty.
[03:14] <sammy> MachinTrucChose_: then try pidgin/gajim/kopete/etc with an irc plugin or a jabber server with an irc gateway.
[03:15] <Millertime_018> how can i get vmware-server to show up in the add/remove box?
[03:15] <shane2peru> DBautell, hmm, seems as that there is a traffic jam at that site.
[03:15] <nickrud> favoritefood0 I know, but we're talking about current troubleshooting info
[03:15] <taxman> yago: after you got that message, you were able to shutdown normally with no errors? And now what exactly happens? What do you mean by can't do anything?
[03:15] <moon2js> Can I do a dist-upgrade but have it access the repos from a CD?
[03:15] <sammy> MachinTrucChose_: pidgin and gajim actually both do really well with irc transports on jabber servers. so does psi
[03:15] <ffm_> Millertime_018, Just remove it via synaptic.
[03:15] <ffm_> Millertime_018, Sys>Admin>Synaptic.
[03:15] <KyleK> damn
[03:15] <damo22> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Apr 25 13:04:51 2008
[03:15] <MachinTrucChose_> Pidgin is the first one I tried. It's terrible. Maybe for a person who's never going to use IRC these multi-purpose clients are good enough, but not for me
[03:15] <favoritefood0> nickrud, I only use ubuntu.
[03:15] <ffm_> !language | KyleK
[03:15] <ubotu> KyleK: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:15] <HardyOne> !aptcd | moon2js
[03:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aptcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <DBautell> okaratas, howabout ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/
[03:15] <nickrud> moon2js from an alternate cd, yes
[03:15] <KyleK> i guess im screwed for using 7.04
[03:15] <favoritefood0> nickrud; I only had feisty installed.
[03:15] <damo22> how can i fix that: sudo: timestamp too far in the future:
[03:15] <ffm_> MachinTrucChose_, Use XChat for IRC.
[03:15] <jPratt> How can i update my Java?
[03:15] <DBautell> durn autocomlete
[03:15] <ffm_> damo22, sudo -k
[03:15] <KyleK> ffm_: damn is disney friendly :p
[03:15] <nosa-J> theses downloads take forever
[03:16] <Tailsfan> !modules
[03:16] <ubotu> To compile modules and drivers that are not bundled with the standard kernel,  for more info /msg ubotu kernel  , install the relevant package, usually called "<modulename>-source", and run « sudo module-assistant » (you will have to do this again after kernel updates). To prevent specific modules from loading, see /msg ubotu blacklist
[03:16] <binarybandit> irssi! :D
[03:16] <sammy> MachinTrucChose_: I think you'll find there isn't much going on in the way of irc client development, I'd assume the most would be going on in those multi-purpose clients. also, gajim is a jabber only client ;)
[03:16] <nickrud> favoritefood0 so, try booting a cd. See if you get different action at that level.
[03:16] <MachinTrucChose_> ffm: that's what I'm using now. I tried like 4-5 clients prior to deciding on X-chat.
[03:16] <favoritefood0> I'll be right back.
[03:16] <Tailsfan> Oh
[03:16] <Kl4m> Shadow_X: server upgrades should never break, except in special situations which you should know about before.
[03:16] <seamus7> MachinTrucChose_ I'm on IRC via Pidgin ... works nicely
[03:16] <leap> where is the best torrent site for 8.04 alternate-amd64 cd
[03:16] <moon2js> alt cd. I have the iso and can burn. can I just insert and it will do, or do I need to some how point update-manager to the disc?
[03:16] <ffm_> binarybandit, for when you're on the road, yeah.
[03:16] <KyleK> ffm_: !calmdown > ffm_ :)
[03:16] <bmoll8> anyone know where I can find a good review of the new ubuntu release
[03:16] <ianliu_88> How do I remove those shadows/glow from ubuntu windows?
[03:16] <smallfoot-> i should install gnash, swfdec or adobe?
[03:16] <damo22> ffm_: it was capital K thanks
[03:16] <nickrud> moon2js the hardy cd will ask if you want to upgrade when you insert it
[03:16] <ffm_> bmoll8, It works well, much better than the prior one.
[03:16] <MachinTrucChose_> basically an IRC client needs to have a decent interface (with a list of users! can't believe some didn't have that), syntax highlighting, DCC sends, CTCP suites, aliases...it's very minimal stuff that was already in mIRC 10 years ago
[03:17] <osmosis> whats the difference between nvidia and nvidia_new ?
[03:17] <black_13> what would cause ubuntu server install to get stuck scanning mirror stage?
[03:17] <nickrud> moon2js the alternate cd, remember
[03:17] <moon2js> nickrud: but it has to be the alt, not the reg?
[03:17] <ffm_> damo22, What?
[03:17] <seamus7> ianliu_88: try disabling various compiz plugins in Advanced Desktop Effects
[03:17] <nickrud> moon2js yes
[03:17] <sammy> MachinTrucChose_: which is why x-chat is your client of choice, it was around 10 years ago, too, iirc.
[03:17] <ffm_> damo22, Oh.
[03:17] <damo22> ffm_: it was capital K .. sudo -K
[03:17] <nickrud> black_13 probably server overload
[03:17] <moon2js> nickrud: cool, thanks!
[03:17] <woddf2> I may upgrade tomorrow.
[03:17] <Daedius_> hey all
[03:17] <Shadow_X> Kl4m, i think it was due to ignorance about linux in general. ive learned alot more lately. i used to be daunted by the thought of linux, but now, im comfortable with is. almost as comfy as i am on windows (which i have spent my whole life on, sadly)
[03:17] <Daedius_> i'm having trouble with the 2.6.24 kernel
[03:17] <Daedius_> I'm also a n00b with ubuntu
[03:17] <binarybandit> ffm_, not just for the road :(
[03:17] <Skuller> I try booting off a 7.10 live desktop CD but after the orange bar going back and forth it just leaves me at a command prompt kind of place with a 'busybox' title at the top. This does not happen with a 7.04 CD on the same PC. Any suggestions? I tried ctrl-alt-F4 with no luck and neither with F6
[03:17] <shane2peru> what advantage is there having the DVD?  More packages, is it the alternate CD and the DesktopCD install wrapped into one?
[03:18] <Daedius_> anyonek know the quickest route I should go to get the 2.6.25 kernel on ubuntu?
[03:18] <Daedius_> for 64bit system
[03:18] <ffm_> shane2peru, If you have a fast internet connection, the DVD offers little adcantage.
[03:18] <nickrud> Daedius_ the only way is compiling it yourself
[03:18] <Kl4m> bmoll8: http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=682 is a "review" but don't go there if you want a critic
[03:18] <shane2peru> Skuller, do you have the 8.04 CD???  Hardy, it is just out
[03:18] <ffm_> Daedius_, Don't?
[03:18] <nickrud> !kernel | Daedius_
[03:18] <ubotu> Daedius_: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[03:18] <shane2peru> ffm_, so there are more packages?
[03:18] <ffm_> shane2peru, Yes.
[03:18] <dragobr_> isso é um teste
[03:18] <Kl4m> leap: Get the torrent file pretty much anywhere, you'll get connected to the same torrent
[03:18] <WeeJa1> Hi guys! any one using vpnc here?
[03:18] <Daedius_> hmmm
[03:18] <jPratt> Ubuntu is all i am running now this morning i also had windows *Laughs at Micro$oft
[03:19] <ffm_> shane2peru, But all of them are avalible via the repos.
[03:19] <shane2peru> ffm_, for like if I wanted to install on other computers that don't have fast internet?
[03:19] <shane2peru> ffm_, right
[03:19] <ffm_> shane2peru, Yeah, for that.
[03:19] <Skuller> shane2peru: No, I don't at the moment and I don't have the connection speed to download it quickly either, have to do with 7.10 or 7.04 (this one works)
[03:19] <MachinTrucChose_> daedius: I heard the performance difference is negligible for a desktop user with 64-bit. People on forums seemed to recommend not bothering for now and sticking with 32-bit
[03:19] <eZe> i just fornated a partition, but fdisk still displays the wring filesystem type, does it need a reboot to recognize that?
[03:19] <leap> ffound one no seeders
[03:19] <Kl4m> WeeJa1: I used to
[03:19] <corbett> hi, is there anyone who can help me get my maxtor external hard drive mounted and working on ububtu 7.10 - which ive just loaded on pc to replace windows, it worked perfectly fine elsewhere on widows, I think I need to run some checks as dont know why it wont mount
[03:19] <ffm_> shane2peru, See also "apt on cd"
[03:19] <Daedius_> can you guys think of a way I can test the usability of my usb mouse outside of X11?
[03:19] <Rycher> hey when i try to install under the terminal. I have a problem.... When it ask for the admin password in the terminal, it wont let me type anything.? any ideas..
[03:19] <WeeJa1> Kl4m: did you use it with a secure token or pre-shared key?
[03:19] <Daedius_> I don't know if the problem is my kernel or X11 itself
[03:19] <nickrud> MachinTrucChose_ I ran 64bit in feisty, but switched back to 32 for hardy for that very reason
[03:19] <Kl4m> leap: get the official torrent from ubuntu.com
[03:19] <ffm_> Daedius_, Why would you want to use it out side of X?
[03:19] <ffm_> Daedius_, Not off hand.
[03:20] <nickrud> Daedius_ gpm might do the trick
[03:20] <shane2peru> SKuhn, hmm, did you order a CD for shipit?  What country are you in?  There is probably a loco group close
[03:20] <Kl4m> WeeJa1: PSK.
[03:20] <WeeJa1> I can't get the Network Manager + vpnc interface to promt me for a secure token input...
[03:20] <Daedius_> My usb mouse isn't working on 8.04
[03:20] <ffm_> Rycher, Install what?
[03:20] <black_13> nickrud, is there a way choose a different server?
[03:20] <HardyOne> Rycher: you type and dont see the characters?
[03:20] <plik> shane2peru: mouseon console is handy for cut & paste
[03:20] <Jobias> Rycher: if you're referring to the fact that the cursor doesn't move in the terminal, that's normal. i believe it's a security feature, so that no one can tell how long your password is
[03:20] <WeeJa1> Kl4m: I guess its time to read :-)
[03:20] <lopin> I can't get cdromupgrade to work.
[03:20] <ffm_> WeeJa1, You mean for your password?
[03:20] <WeeJa1> yea
[03:20] <Rycher> it wont let me type anything
[03:20] <nickrud> black_13 system->admin->software sources, on the dropdown button on the first tab, choose other
[03:20] <HardyOne> Rycher: type in the password and hit enter
[03:20] <plik> oops, not to shane2peru , pesky accidental tabs
[03:20] <Rycher> dosnt work
[03:20] <shane2peru> SKuller, hmm, did you order a CD for shipit?  What country are you in?  There is probably a loco group close
[03:20] <Kl4m> WeeJa1: I didn't use network-manager, I connected to my campus wireless and started vpnc in a console
[03:20] <WeeJa1> ffm_: I imported my Cisco vpn client config but it does ot promt me for secure token
[03:21] <shane2peru> sorry SKuhn wrong person
[03:21] <shane2peru> thanks plik
[03:21] <dbristow> well that tears it.  releases.ubuntu.com's copy of wubu.exe has the same md5sum as the rest I've tried
[03:21] <black_13> nickrud i didnt see that on the server install
[03:21] <WeeJa1> Kl4m: ill be happy with console
[03:21] <Skuller> shane2peru: Yes I did
[03:21] <ffm_> WeeJa1, Ah. Can't help then.
[03:21] <lopin> !cdromupgrade
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdromupgrade - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <eklof> Hi all! anyone upgraded a 6.06 server to 8.04 yet? Did it work? :)
[03:21] <ffm_> dbristow, What's the issue?
[03:21] <Jobias> Rycher: what kind of an error are you getting?
[03:21] <shane2peru> ffm_, apt on cd?
[03:21] <MachinTrucChose_> where would I go if I wanted nicer text fonts than the ones included in Ubuntu? Are all of the Windows one proprietary Microsoft stuff or something (Arial, Courier New, Terminal, Verdana, etc)?
[03:21] <lopin> Why is there no documentation about the server death?
[03:21] <DBautell> ISOupgrade
[03:21] <MachinTrucChose_> can't find anything using synaptic
[03:21] <twinkie_addict> the repos must realy be hit hard , i cant refresh my apt list :)
[03:21] <WeeJa1> ffm_: ill figure it out....acording to vpnc site, that support was added with 0.3 release
[03:21] <DBautell> doh
[03:21] <manish> how to install flash player for mozilla
[03:21] <Rycher> su: Authentication failure. Sorry.
[03:21] <WeeJa1> ubuntu comes with 0.51
[03:21] <dbristow> ffm_: I can't get a copy of wubi.exe that verifies via the MD5SUMS files
[03:21] <DBautell> To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO or the DVD: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO/DVD. If you don't want to/can't burn a disc, you can 'mount -o loop nameofiso /path/to/mount/'
[03:21] <sean_> MachinTrucChose_: mstcorefonts I believe is the name
[03:21] <ffm_> lopin, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[03:21] <Kl4m> eklof: It is a supported upgrade path But I don't know anyone who did it actually
[03:21] <Jobias> MachinTrucChose_: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[03:21] <shane2peru> ffm_, that could be very handy, where do I find out about it?  Wouldn't apt on DVD be more efficient. :)
[03:21] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm wanting to go from 7.04 but I think I might wait a day. anyone done it without major issues?
[03:22] <seamus7> anyone finding FF3 beta 5 just too buggy at the moment? have many of you downgraded to FF2? or gone elsewhere?
[03:22] <ffm_> shane2peru, Same thing.
[03:22] <MachinTrucChose_> manish: open synaptic and search for "flash".
[03:22] <HardyOne> !fonts | MachinTrucChose_
[03:22] <vicmarconi> is this final version the same as the release candidate of 2 days earlier?
[03:22] <ubotu> MachinTrucChose_: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:22] <nickrud> black_13 ah, server :) . You need to go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors , pick one and edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:22] <seamus7> oops I'm not supposed to poll
[03:22] <MachinTrucChose_> thank you guys
[03:22] <eklof> Kl4m: I need some test-users before me :)
[03:22] <lopin> twinkie_addict: changing to a closer server will let you get your apt get working, but don't try to upgrade
[03:22] <dmsuperman> I'm doubting this, but is there anyway to run visual studio on linux? I _really_ like the intellisense features and project management of it, so I either want visual studio in linux or something similar with intellisense (one that learns from your code, not just built in functions)
[03:22] <underdog5004> lopin, there's nothing to document, so many users trying to download 700+ Mb from a few servers is basically a DDOS against the servers...unintentional, but there you go :)
[03:22] <dbristow> all the copies I have have the same, different, md5sum, from funet, mirrors.kernel.org, everywhere
[03:22] <shane2peru> ffm_, where do I find out more info about the DVD, something to read on it?
[03:22] <plik> vicmarconi: apparently the last changes were on 22nd
[03:22] <Jobias> Rycher: that's odd. i don't really know what's wrong. sorry
[03:22] <dbristow> I think the MD5SUMS file has got to be wrong
[03:22] <black_13> how do you do during the install process
[03:22] <lopin> underdog5004: I definitely know that, I'm a comp sci major...
[03:22] <nickrud> Seven_Six_Two it won't hurt to wait a week, let some bugs that weren't found without really widespread use get fixed, and the mirrors to settle down
[03:22] <ffm_> shane2peru, hold on..
[03:22] <J-a-k-e> hi does anyone here know anything about sound in ubuntu?
[03:22] <underdog5004> as am I
[03:23] <lopin> The question is: why is there not a disclaimer on the main site?
[03:23] <j_humphrey> maco: hey, you there?
[03:23] <J-a-k-e> hi does anyone here know anything about sound *quality* in ubuntu?
[03:23] <Skuller> Any problem if I install 7.04 now? I mean as in its not too old or does not have a huge lack of features does it?
[03:23] <Rycher> hmmm... well this person on the fourms told me to run it in "super user" mode. Any ideas?
[03:23] <ffm_> shane2peru, http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/
[03:23] <Seven_Six_Two> I noticed they're getting hammered. I had to edit my hosts info just to update
[03:23] <maco> j_humphrey: whatss up
[03:23] <MachinTrucChose_> hardyone: are the microsoft core fonts copyrighted then? ie, they can't be used in the US without breaking the law (however trivially)?
[03:23] <underdog5004> lopin, why would there be? obviously there's going to be a slowdown when a new release comes out...
[03:23] <ffm_> MachinTrucChose_, Mhm.
[03:23] <dbristow> I'm getting this md5sum for wubi.exe: a96aa69961f3ed80dd7a88fae1e28196  wubi.exe
[03:23] <nickrud> Skuller nothing wrong with 7.04, and it has 6 more months of support
[03:23] <shane2peru> ffm_, thanks!, checking it out.
[03:23] <lopin> underdog5004: This is not a slowdown.  This is a grinding halt
[03:23] <j_humphrey> maco: So i think that the iwl3945 driver and my router are incompatible
[03:23] <ffm_> MachinTrucChose_, at least they cannot be redistrubuted. You need a MS licence.
[03:23] <ffm_> shane2peru, No problem.
[03:23] <HardyOne> MachinTrucChose_: something like that but doubt Bill is going to knock on your door
[03:23] <Stroganoff> MachinTrucChose_ msttcorefonts are freeware, extracted from MS freeware
[03:24] <ffm_> maco, still helping people?
[03:24]  * shane2peru runs off to read about the Ubuntu DVD
[03:24] <j_humphrey> maco: http://stebalien.com/2008/04/2wireiwl3945crash.html
[03:24] <Kl4m> eklof: It really shouldn't be more dangerous than, say a debian dist-upgrade. Many entreprise users are going to upgrade from an LTS to another (not today!)
[03:24] <ffm_> MachinTrucChose_, Technically a violation, but unlikely to prosicute.
[03:24] <lopin> underdog5004: And, I'm trying to upgrade from the alt cd, but it keeps locking up...
[03:24] <underdog5004> lopin, ime, it's been a slowdown...I tried to install libk3b2-mp3 on my gf's lappy...took nearly 5 minutes before it could fetch the package
[03:24] <genie> hi all
[03:24] <underdog5004> lopin, where does it lock up at?
[03:25] <genie> I am getting this error when I try to run sudo command: sudo: unable to resolve host genie02
[03:25] <lopin> underdog5004: Package manager
[03:25] <Seven_Six_Two> lopin, while it's fetching the package lists?
[03:25] <lopin> underdog5004: I switched to a local server, and I could at least get the lists, bu tnothing else...
[03:25] <Kl4m> MachinTrucChose_: those fonts have been given by microsoft "in the interest of interoperability". Sourceforge hosts them
[03:25] <shane2peru> ffm_, WOW double thanks, apt on CD looks really cool, I'm liking it  Thanks a bundle!
[03:25] <Gman99999> my sound is all messed up now that I upgraded to hardy heron, the sound is all raspy and ruffled, why is that?
[03:25] <lopin> underdog5004: Maybe?  It's at the end, but it locks up while offline too...
[03:25] <dbristow> whereas the MD5SUMS file has this line: cdd32124f23b455b0aa22cc3ff35ff35 *wubi.exe
[03:25] <ffm_> shane2peru, Make checks payable to... </sarcasm>
[03:25] <balleyn1> does anyone have any experience with rsnapshot? I'm trying to figure it out, but I'm a bit confused regarding what should run on the server vs client
[03:25] <gvieira> sry if this question was previously answered, but how can I upgrade from a 8.04 beta version to LTS final??
[03:25] <TheDukeNY> Does 8.04 no longer include ntfs support?
[03:25] <ffm_> Gman99999, Uh, I wouldn't know  unless you gave more information.
[03:25] <shane2peru> ffm_, ha ha ;)
[03:26] <lopin> underdog5004: "Checking Package Manager"
[03:26] <ffm_> gvieira, use the update manager.
[03:26] <nickrud> gvieira run update-manager
[03:26] <ffm_> gvieira, it happens just like any other software update.
[03:26] <x3n0> hi all
[03:26] <genie> sudo: unable to resolve host pcname
[03:26] <ffm_> !hello | x3n0
[03:26] <bcardarella> Is there a reason why my numerical keypad is now controlling my mouse cursor after the upgrade to 8.04?
[03:26] <ubotu> x3n0: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:26] <HardyOne> gvieira: if you did the update yesterday you are already there :)
[03:26] <MachinTrucChose_> kl4m: thanks. in that case, why not include them in Ubuntu? I can see why they wouldn't be in Gobuntu, but Ubuntu doesn't seem to mind optional "restricted" packages
[03:26] <Seven_Six_Two> TheDukeNY, try the 3g drivers
[03:26] <blankhead> why is it that without nvidia driver disabled the resolution reaches 76hz but while its enabled it only stays within the 50hz i thought it was suppose to be the other way around!!
[03:26] <nickrud> !hostname | genie (do this)
[03:26] <ubotu> genie (do this): Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[03:26] <ffm_> HardyOne, Sys>Prefs>Assist. Tech.
[03:26] <Stroganoff> balleyn1: http://www.rsnapshot.org/howto/1.2/rsnapshot-HOWTO.en.html
[03:26] <eklof> Kl4m: yeah i guess so.
[03:26] <underdog5004> lopin, weird, I remember it locking up briefly (10 minutes or so) on an older version when it was trying to get updates before rebooting...
[03:26] <favoritefood0> nickrud; just booted up my live CD, works perfectly.
[03:26] <Gman99999> ffm_ its just sounds all garbled now, im not sure how that could happen it sounds like there's static now in every single sound
[03:26] <underdog5004> genie, long time no see!
[03:26] <DBautell> bcardarella, sounds like an accessibility setting
[03:26] <lopin> underdog5004: I'll just let it sit then
[03:27] <ffm_> Gman99999, Uh, maybe a hardware problem?
[03:27] <x3n0> i'm having a few issues with an alias i've written
[03:27] <sammy> bcardarella: sounds like one of the accessability options; mouse keys. you can change the settings in system, preference, assistive technologies
[03:27] <gvieira> I don't remember :P how can I see if my version is the final?
[03:27] <balleyn1> Stroganoff: thanks
[03:27] <HardyOne> ffm_: ???
[03:27] <Prez00> is the torrent working ok?  I can't seem to connect..
[03:27] <bcardarella> DBautell: I'll check it out
[03:27] <taxman> genie, sorry I don't know. goodle didn't turn up anything I take it?
[03:27] <VictorB> hi
[03:27] <Gman99999> ffm_ yea but what kind and where? lol
[03:27] <underdog5004> lopin, lol, not much else you can do :)
[03:27] <nickrud> favoritefood0 and your driver still doesn't work at all, won't even open with sudo eject  ?
[03:27] <ffm_> Gman99999, Can you try under fiesty livecd and see if it still occurs?
[03:27] <Prez00> connecting to peers..
[03:27]  * underdog5004 hands genie a coffee
[03:27] <sammy> bcardarella: it's possible holding down one of the buttons for too long triggered it to turn on. happens all the time with the shift and sticky keys to me.
[03:27] <ffm_> HardyOne, That's the panel that controls that bit.
[03:27] <Gman99999> ffm_ I just upgrade from gutsy and everything worked fine
[03:27] <favoritefood0> nickrud; what is the sudo eject command for a standard DVD drive?
[03:27] <bcardarella> sammy: yeap, that was it. Thanks :)
[03:27] <Gman99999> ffm_ it all worked fine in gutsy
[03:27] <TheDukeNY> Seven_Six_Two: How do I get those drivers?
[03:27] <HardyOne> ffm_: what are you talking about. sorry you lost me
[03:27] <nickrud> favoritefood0 sudo eject /dev/<device>
[03:27] <ffm_> Gman99999, Sorry, I ment to try with a gutsy CD and see if the issue still occurs.
[03:28] <ffm_> HardyOne, Go to the Sys>Prefs>Assist. Tech. (series of menus)
[03:28] <favoritefood0> nickrud; nothing.
[03:28] <nickrud> favoritefood0 and ls /dev/sd* should show you the device (if it was recognized) . If there's only one, eject should find it
[03:28] <HardyOne> ffm_: why are you directing me there?
[03:28] <x3n0> alias ll="ls -l | sed -e 's/--x/1/g' -e 's/-w-/2/g' -e 's/-wx/3/g' -e 's/r--/4/g' -e 's/r-x/5/g' -e 's/rw-/6/g' -e 's/rwx/7/g' -e 's/---/0/g'"
[03:28] <genie> thanks ubotu
[03:28] <ffm_> HardyOne, Sorry, I ment Sys>Prefs>Mouse.
[03:28] <ffm_> genie, Ubotu is a bot.
[03:28] <favoritefood0> nickrud, my DVD drive shows up in Sysinfo.
[03:28] <nickrud> x3n0 just what does that do? better have a good answer
[03:28] <cameron122000> upgrade is being slow :(
[03:28] <Kl4m> MachinTrucChose_: I don't know why they are not included. But they are in a exe, and the license told they can't be modified. That's why it depends on cabextract also.
[03:29] <HardyOne> ffm_: lmao you are answering questions to me that I have not asked
[03:29] <nickrud> favoritefood0 but does it show up in /dev/sd*
[03:29] <dbristow> anybody else getting the same md5sum for wubi.exe ?
[03:29] <VictorB> i have problems with downloading with firefox.. i have upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 and when i download something firefox hangs for 10 seconds. who has the same problems?
[03:29] <nosa-J> wow firefox 3 on the new version
[03:29] <HardyOne> ffm_: My Hardy install has been working great for months now
[03:29] <x3n0> its an alias to change ls -l to show permissions in octal
[03:29] <Kl4m> VictorB: I noticed FF hangs for 5-10 seconds when switching tabs or loading some new tabs also.
[03:30] <ffm_> HardyOne, You asked why your numpad was controlling your mouse? (or was that someone else...)
[03:30] <nickrud> x3n0 ok, I see that now. Can't read sed without serious help ;)
[03:30] <favoritefood0> nickrud; it's mount point is /dev/hdc
[03:30] <ffm_> Kl4m, If you want you can install firefox-2.0 from the repositories.
[03:30] <HardyOne> ffm_: someone else
[03:30] <VictorB> Kl4m, ok i gonna try that
[03:30] <ffm_> favoritefood0, That's not the mount point, that's the device point.
[03:30] <fdsjkalf> when is archive.ubuntu.com going to  be back up?
[03:30] <MachinTrucChose_> whelp, I gotta restart, just installed the fonts
[03:30] <MachinTrucChose_> ciao
[03:30] <ffm_> fdsjkalf, When people stop using it so heavellu.
[03:30] <x3n0> well i'm in need of a little help getting it going properly :/
[03:30] <ffm_> *heavelly.
[03:30] <mutk> favoritefood0, That is usually not a mount point. It is a link to the block device.
[03:30] <VictorB> ffm_, i installenmd firefox 2.0 and have the same problems
[03:30] <pawan> hi
[03:30] <Arnos> is there a booster floppy that allows me to boot from USB for computer that can't by default?
[03:30] <Kl4m> VictorB: It only does it occasionally
[03:30] <DBautell> fdsjkalf, when people stop poking it:D
[03:30] <arbir> is back
[03:30] <ffm_> fdsjkalf, Try a local mirror.
[03:30] <professor_> KyleK, Thanks it worked
[03:30] <favoritefood0> ffm_ and mutk; thanks
[03:31] <pawan> what is lts in 8.04
[03:31] <ffm_> !lts | pawalls
[03:31] <ubotu> pawalls: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[03:31] <ethana2> pawan: long term support
[03:31] <ffm_> !lts | pawan
[03:31] <ubotu> pawan: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[03:31] <nickrud> favoritefood0 it shouldn't be anymore (in hardy) . Is /dev/hdc there , and is any /dev/sc*   (the new naming scheme for cd/dvds, forgot for a sec
[03:31] <VictorB> Kl4m, canyou try downloading?
[03:31] <sammy> Arnos: I don't think they do booster floopys like that anymore now that they figure everyone can just dl and burn a cd, or that anyone wanting to do that could just make their own bootable floppy. are you still trying to load the update from usb?
[03:31] <MachinTrucChose> ah, much nicer :P
[03:31] <favoritefood0> for nickrud; in other news I looked in /dev/by-id and I see my DVD drive there
[03:31] <fdsjkalf> based on your experience, how long does it take for archive.ubuntu.com to be back to normal after a release date
[03:31] <arbir> has anybody made a ubuntu installable USb key ?
[03:31] <pawan> ok
[03:31] <Kl4m> VictorB: I've been using it for many weeks now. It did on downloading a couple of times but rarely
[03:31] <pawan> how is the new version
[03:32] <nickrud> favoritefood0 if you won't answer the questions I ask, there's not much I can say
[03:32] <Arnos> I arbir: I have, it didn't work thought that might have just been the PC I tried it on
[03:32] <Kl4m> pawan: stay around and watch the problems flow :)
[03:32] <favoritefood0> nickrud; sorry I don't know what you want me to look for.
[03:32] <amenado> Arnos you can try to use syslinux as the boot loader
[03:32] <ffm_> pawan: it works.
[03:32] <arbir> i tried but i keep getting errors @ Arnos
[03:32] <TheDukeNY> How can I get my internal hard drive to mount when my 3g driver is installed, but it doesnt do it automatically. Is there a way I can do it manually?
[03:32] <ffm_> pawan: better than gutsy.
[03:32] <favoritefood0> nickrud; err...well, I don't know exactly what you want me to look rfor.
[03:32] <arbir> Error: The flag 'boot' is not available for loop disk labels.  @ Arnos
[03:32] <pawan> great
[03:32] <nickrud> favoritefood0 I've asked a couple of times, the latest version:   /dev/hdc there , and is any /dev/sc*
[03:33] <Kl4m> Arnos: you could install grub on a floppy. I can boot from USB hard drives with grub
[03:33] <fdsjkalf> trying to download java at near dsl speeds is just unbearable
[03:33] <Shpook> Still no ubuntu+1, huh?
[03:33] <ffm_> pawan: in any case, it's a reccomended upgrade.
[03:33] <Arnos> arbir: did you follow this tutorial? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/04/14/ubuntu-804-usb-hard-drive-install/
[03:33] <Arnos> Kl4m I don't know how to install grub on a floppy
[03:33] <pawan> ya
[03:33] <arbir> nope Arnos.. let me see that link.. i was following another link
[03:33] <Kl4m> Shpook: #ubuntu+1 goes here until development on 8.10 begins
[03:33] <arbir> Arnos i was trying this link --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[03:34] <pawan> i want to install windows vista on top of ubuntu
[03:34] <sammy> Shpook: keep your pants on :P
[03:34] <nickrud> Shpook give the dev's a chance to party a bit ;)
[03:34] <amenado> arbir that should have worked
[03:34] <arbir> is gone away with Arnos's link
[03:34] <arbir> amenado: i was getting that error
[03:34] <frosken> does anyone have experience with the rt73 wireless driver? im trying to get my usbdongle to work on hardy, but it doesnt show up in networkmanager
[03:34] <amenado> arbir-> what error?
[03:34] <Kl4m> Arnos: when you install Ubuntu, at the last stage, click on the "advanced..." button and install grub on /dev/fd0
[03:34] <favoritefood0> nickrud; in /dev/ I see no sc* file
[03:34] <Shpook> sammy, nickrud: lol I just want to join in on the fun.
[03:34] <arbir> amenado: Error: The flag 'boot' is not available for loop disk labels.
[03:35] <Arnos> Kl4m I did
[03:35] <amenado> arbir i dont see that mentioned on that linked you just pasted
[03:35] <VictorB> Kl4m, i gonna wait a few days mayby they solve the problems with FF
[03:35] <ricree> I have a somewhat odd problem.  After upgrading to hardy, my number keys no longer work.  Does anyone have any idea how I can go about troubleshooting that?
[03:35] <arbir> amenado: i nkow, but i am not able to copy my iso to that disk
[03:35] <arbir> it keeps bugging me for making it a bootable partition
[03:35] <TheDukeNY> did fstab change at all?
[03:35] <Arnos> Kl4m: what I want is a floppy that will make a computer boot to a USB that normally can't my USB can already boot itself if the computer supports it
[03:36] <amenado> arbir you have formatted your usb as vfat?
[03:36] <arbir> amenado: it was first fat32, then i formatted to ext2
[03:36] <pawan> when i install windows vista on top of ubuntu it destroys grub
[03:36] <Kl4m> VictorB: They had to put FF 3  because else they would have to support FF2 for 3 years
[03:36] <arbir> amenado: i tried everything....
[03:36] <daning> hi. why I can't download ubuntu 8.04 from ubuntu.com
[03:36] <arbir> now let me try that link Arnos just gave me
[03:36] <Kl4m> VictorB: It will be upgraded when it's released...
[03:36] <Fa> ff3 beta 5 is very stable
[03:36] <amenado> arbir that link says use vfat not fat32 eh?
[03:36] <Toran> OK, I am running ubuntu on a thinkpad x60. I want to use an external keyboard. When I plug it in (USB), though, I can't type on it. A light comes on the keyboard, but my laptop doesn't accept input from it. I tried rebooting with it plugged in, but I had no luck. How can I make this work?
[03:37] <sean_> They're going to be an updated release, hopefully it'll include the final version.
[03:37] <arbir> amenado: when i try to make vfat using parted
[03:37] <Kl4m> Fa Yeah sure but it's a beta
[03:37] <arbir> amenado: parted wont let me make vfat
[03:37] <amenado> arbir unless you have syslinux 3.0
[03:37] <Fa> you can uninstall k14m
[03:37] <nickrud> favoritefood0 ok, look in /var/dmesg , there'll be a section that starts with something like ata1: PATA max UDMA/100 , it describes the recognition of your drives, or you could put the whole thing on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:37] <arbir> amenado: parted> mkfs 1 vfat does not work
[03:37] <pawan> how to install windows vista
[03:37] <fyrfaktry> lol
[03:37] <Kl4m> Arnos: what is the problem again?
[03:37] <arbir> amenado: i was still on ubuntu 7.10 and i am using what ever version of syslinux that came
[03:38] <amenado> arbir-> then you have to find another tool to make a vfat if gparted dont work for you
[03:38] <Shpook> Well, I'm going to ask this in here then: Are there any issues I should be aware of with the upgrade? Audio, video, network, etc?
[03:38] <nickrud> pawan no trolling
[03:38] <gvieira> my ubuntu is updated, thank you for who helped! :D and congratz to development team
[03:38] <sammy> !dualboot | pawan
[03:38] <ubotu> pawan: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[03:38] <arbir> amenado: let me look around.. if i cannot get anywhere, i will get back here to post my question
[03:38] <Shpook> Although audio is now run by pulse, i'm sure that will be smooth. I'm in love with pulse audio.
[03:38] <arbir> will you be around amenado /
[03:38] <Arnos> Kl4m: The computer can't boot to a USB, any USB, I want a floppy that will let it
[03:38] <favoritefood0> nickrud; in my /var/ folder there is no /dmesg file or folder...
[03:38] <ricree> Shpook: I had some audio issues, but they were easily solved by changing sound from auto-detect to ALSA
[03:38] <nickrud> favoritefood0 srry, /var/log/dmesg
[03:38] <amenado> arbir no guarantee
[03:39] <scorpfromhell> !partial upgrade|scorpfromhell
[03:39] <Shpook> ricree: That's pretty typical, at least it's nothing major. :-)
[03:39] <Kl4m> Arnos: ok, do you want to boot Ubuntu on usb?
[03:39] <arbir> amenado: no probs.. thanks for the pointer.. thats good enough to keep me RTFM'ing
[03:39] <Kl4m> Or in general
[03:39] <Arnos> KL4m: yes
[03:39] <arbir> thanks a lot amenado
[03:39] <amenado> arbir okay, you're welcome
[03:39] <CaptainMorgan> !ext2
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <ricree> Shpook: yeah, I was pretty worried though, since I had a lot of sound problems when Feisty first came out
[03:39] <Fa> ubuntu 8 rocks
[03:39] <XceII> ya
[03:40] <scorpfromhell> what is the partial upgrade after upgrade to hardy that's been taking me ages? :(
[03:40] <Shpook> ricree: I solved my sound problems in feisty by installing pulseaudio.
[03:40] <nickrud> scorpfromhell probably slow servers
[03:40] <Shpook> ricree: But yeah, before that I had a lot of problems too.
[03:40] <Randocal> I'm pretty sure I know the answer.... But if I upgrade to hardy, and somehow it breaks something on my system and things aren't working properly there isn't an uninstall option is there?
[03:40] <obf213> hey, i just upgraded, and of course I am having problems, specifically with the apt-get / synaptic
[03:40] <Arnos> Kl4m:
[03:40] <favoritefood0> nickrud; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64303/
[03:40] <nickrud> Randocal no
[03:40] <Arnos> 1)I want to boot Ubuntu on my USB
[03:40] <Arnos> 2)the computer can't boot to USB normally
[03:40] <Arnos> 3)Therefor I need a floppy that will make my computer boot to USB
[03:40] <Arnos> 4)The floppy would let the computer access the USB which would then boot
[03:40] <FloodBot2> Arnos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:40] <Fa> back up your data before upgrading
[03:40] <arbir> amenado: that link is to install ubuntu on my USB flash drive
[03:41] <amenado> arbir correct
[03:41] <obf213> for some reason they are just not working, i cant apt-get it just hang, i can't install packages it just hangs, i can't add reposistories iether
[03:41] <arbir> amenado: i want to make a USB flash drive,, a ubuntu installer
[03:41] <scorpfromhell> no, am not complaining about slow servers, I am expecting that :) hence torrented the alternate cd
[03:41] <Killeroid> obf213: repos are extra slow
[03:41] <pawan> i am currently running ubuntu now i want to install vista how
[03:41] <arbir> amenado : my laptop's CD drive does not work.. but i can boot with my usb key
[03:41] <Kl4m> !usb > Arnos
[03:41] <Shpook> obf213: What kind of problems? The servers have been extremely slow with the release.
[03:41] <ffm_> obf213: In the mean time, use a mirror.
[03:41] <obf213> Killeroid, is that because of today
[03:41] <amenado> arbir right, and use syslinux to put the loader on it
[03:41] <Killeroid> obf213: yeah, everyone is upgrading
[03:41] <fdsjkalf> i found a mirror that served hardy to me at over 1150KB/s
[03:41] <sammy> obf213: if you can, if you can start synaptic package manager from scratch, before doing anything else, go into the repository setup and have it find the best mirror for you.
[03:41] <arbir> amenado... hold on.. let me put syslinux on it
[03:42] <obf213> Shpook, i just cant apt-get or evne add repositories, if thats the case, I have no problem being patient
[03:42] <obf213> thanks
[03:42]  * jeriath is sad cuz synergy doesnt work with 8.04 :(
[03:42] <fdsjkalf> it was one in sweden, assuming it would be fast since its sweden i clicked it despite being in the us of a
[03:42] <arbir> amenado: will this link do ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[03:42] <fdsjkalf> and whaddaya know, it was faaaast
[03:42] <Kl4m> Arnos: When you install Ubuntu on the USB drive. you need to install grub on a floppy. On the last install questions, click "advanced..." and install grub on /dev/fd0
[03:42] <Fa> 3 years til upgrade
[03:42] <Fa> lol
[03:42] <scorpfromhell> will hardy work for eeepc?
[03:42] <pawan> hello
[03:42] <nickrud> favoritefood0 you have both sata and pata interfaces?
[03:43] <Shpook> obf213: I would suggest waiting until this time tomorrow, maybe even a day longer, then try. I've been having problems grabbing anything from the repos.
[03:43] <Kl4m> scorpfromhell: you'll want xubuntu for a eeepc
[03:43] <amenado> arbir same one
[03:43] <ffm_> !repomirror is Go to "System>Administration>Software Sources" and choose "Other" from the drop down box. Then choose "select best server" and your system will choose the closest mirror to you automatically.
[03:43] <Shpook> obf213: and when I was able to, they only downloaded at ~15kbps.
[03:43] <favoritefood0> nickrud; Yes, my DVD drive is pata, my hard drive is SATA
[03:43] <Kl4m> !xubuntu
[03:43] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[03:43] <Arnos> Kl4m: fd0 that makes sense, thanks
[03:43] <mgmz> how do i read an Infrared signal and convert to a *.wav?
[03:43] <Fa> i prefer kde with ubuntu
[03:43] <Fa> kde 4
[03:43] <Shpook> ffm_: Good suggestion, I never knew about that. :-)
[03:43] <arbir> how can i tell the version of my syslinux ?
[03:44] <corbett> hi, is there anyone who can help me get my maxtor external hard drive mounted and working on ububtu 7.10 - which ive just loaded on pc to replace windows, it worked perfectly fine elsewhere on widows, I think I need to run some checks as dont know why it wont mount
[03:44] <scorpfromhell> thanks Kl4m
[03:44] <johd> hello
[03:44] <ffm_> How do I make a suggestion to ubotu?
[03:44] <XceII> fa is that what you have, kd4?
[03:44] <ffm_> !repeat | corbett
[03:44] <ubotu> corbett: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:44] <Fa> yeah
[03:44] <Fa> i don't like gnome at all
[03:44] <ffm_> corbett: Also try asking in the forums.
[03:44] <johd> anyone know how i can make firefox stop using swfdec
[03:44] <XceII> does it look good, i may try iy?
[03:44] <ffm_> Fa: Then see #kubuntu
[03:44] <fdsjkalf> whats better, KDE or Gnome?
[03:44] <Fdisk_> hello ive got a kds xf-9b monitor and a nvidia 8600 gt video card and at 1280 x 768 i can only get 60 hz resolution why will it not let me change it to atleast 75 ?
[03:44] <Fa> ffm it's not the same
[03:44] <ffm_> Fdisk_: It's an opinion.
[03:44] <Fa> i prefer to install kde 4 with ubuntu
[03:44] <arbir> fdsjkalf: what is better apple or oranges ?
[03:45] <ffm_> fdsjkalf:  It's an opinion.
[03:45] <Killeroid> fdsjkalf: both are great, depends on personal preference
[03:45] <nickrud> favoritefood0 ok, it looks like your parallel interface is not getting recognized properly, only the hard drive. You should file a bug report, attach that file to it, along with the output of sudo lshw
[03:45] <johd> i completely removed swdec using the synaptic package manager, but FF still uses swdec
[03:45] <jordanjay29> fdsjkalf: Depends on what your preference is. I suggest you try both.
[03:45] <corbett> i am patient
[03:45] <ffm_> Fdisk_: Ooops, mishighlight.
[03:45] <dan_l> Hey everyone
[03:45] <arbir> how can i tell the version of my syslinux
[03:45] <fdsjkalf> i prefer stability over anything
[03:45] <fdsjkalf> thanks for all the replies
[03:45] <Shpook> fdsjkalf: There is no definitive answer. Best advice is to run a week on both.
[03:45] <scorpfromhell> corbett: i had the problems too, can you unplug the usb cable, reboot & then plug the usb back?
[03:45] <Fa> kde4 blows windows out of the water i think
[03:45] <Fa> lol
[03:45] <zoidberg> guys i was wondering if Ubuntu has this g2 class of header files or something for the g++ compiler?
[03:45] <fdsjkalf> is kde4 final now?
[03:45] <zoidberg> i can't find any documentations on it
[03:45] <favoritefood0> thanks nickrud!
[03:46] <dan_l> Ive got 7.10, and heard that the servers are getting hammered right now, is updating from the CD worth it if I can get the torrent
[03:46] <Fa> yeah
[03:46] <foomanchew> servers are tanked
[03:46] <zemonstas> i need help!!
[03:46] <Shpook> fdsjkalf: I was under the assumption KDE4 was coming with 8.04
[03:46] <dan_l> ive heard
[03:46] <Fa> still more bugs to be worked out though
[03:46] <corbett> scorpfromhell: ive done that many times
[03:46] <fyrfaktry> torrents are flying
[03:46] <Fa> 4.1 suppose to be out in the summer time
[03:46] <zemonstas> Removing nvidia-glx-new ...
[03:46] <zemonstas> dpkg-divert: error checking `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1': No such file or directory
[03:46] <osvin> KDE is used in kubuntu
[03:46] <dragobr_> fdsjkalf: it is stable and there is a version of kubuntu 8.04 that has it...
[03:46] <nickrud> favoritefood0 I'm looking at lines 252 through 281
[03:46] <dan_l> Do i need to get the alternate or just the standard image?
[03:46] <Kl4m> scorpfromhell: It seems you can install ubuntu on it, not only xubuntu.
[03:46] <jordanjay29> Fa: Personally, I think Gnome has better qualities than Windows and KDE. Nautilus could be better, but I'll ta.ke a crum(b)y navigation over stupid glitches and bad interface any day
[03:46] <Fa> yes osvin but it's not the same
[03:46] <ffm_> fyrfaktry: Yeah, I'm getting 2MiB/s down on them.
[03:46] <fdsjkalf> interesting, this i must check out
[03:47] <osvin> why?
[03:47] <Kl4m> !eeepc > scorpfromhell
[03:47] <ffm_> jordanjay29: Heh, I like thunar?
[03:47] <ffm_> osvin: Why what?
[03:47] <KyleK> !eeepc
[03:47] <ubotu> Information about installing Ubuntu on an Asus EeePC can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC
[03:47] <Fa> it's not i don't have a problem with kde 4 at all yet
[03:47] <Shpook> ffm_: lucky you, I'm gettin 40kbps lol
[03:47] <jordanjay29> ffm: File manager?
[03:47] <favoritefood0> nickrud; the Maxtor is my hard drive, BENQ is my DVD drive.
[03:47] <Kl4m> !eeepc > Kl4m
[03:47] <osvin> can I install KDE  in ubuntu?
[03:47] <arbir> anybody can help me determine my syslinux version ?
[03:47]  * jburd got 220 Kbps on the torrents.
[03:47] <DBautell> dan_l, To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO or the DVD: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO/DVD. If you don't want to/can't burn a disc, you can 'mount -o loop nameofiso /path/to/mount/'
[03:47] <fyrfaktry> I pulled the x64 cd in about 15 minutes
[03:47] <ricree> my numberkeys stopped working after the upgrade.  Does anyone have any idea how to troubleshoot?
[03:47] <jordanjay29> osvin: yes, just install all the KDE packages and libraries. Then log out, select KDE from the Options/Sessions menu, and log in
[03:47] <jburd> Yeah, the torrents are definitely faster.  Don't bother with the HTTP servers dan_l
[03:47] <fdsjkalf> from your guyses experience, how long does it take for the archive server load to return to normal?
[03:48] <JoCoProductions> hey guys im having trouble with my feisty instal, upon choosing install the screen goes black except for a single row of pixels that are green at the top
[03:48] <Shpook> osvin: Yes, just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:48] <mvinsc> are the really this bogged?
[03:48] <dan_l> thanks DBautell, yeah I saw that, and ive got some blank CDs laying around and dont feel like waiting<PHONE_NUMBER>6 hours for the servers
[03:48] <ffm_> Shpook: I just have a fat pipe. /me loves FiOS and 15MiBit/s down.
[03:48] <ricree> JoCoProductions: you might want to try the alternate installer
[03:48] <jordanjay29> fdsjkalf: Give it a few days, it's release day today.  FiOS isn't available in south florida yet. I've got the money set aside for it though. :-D
[03:49] <nickrud> favoritefood0 ah, I see it. I'd expect it to be further up (mine is)
[03:49] <Starnestommy> osvin: yes
[03:49] <DBautell> dan_l, neither have I, but I understand you can update from within your current setup off the cd
[03:49] <Kl4m> American and Canadian users, you can pummel some Canadian universities mirrors, they're mostly not overloaded
[03:49] <professor_> Any problems with Hardy yet???
[03:49] <Fdisk_> any one now about my resoloution problem /
[03:49] <jordanjay29> osvin: You can install any desktop included in the package manager in any ubuntu or derivate distros
[03:49] <favoritefood0> nickrud; heh, it must have to do with the way my Mobo reports to Ubuntu.
[03:49] <fyrfaktry> shpook: not in North florida either :(
[03:49] <cube> hey all where is the bittorent for 8.04? i can't find it from ubuntu.com
[03:49] <mvinsc> five min for the dl to start. 3 sec for it to complete
[03:49] <DBautell> dan_l, I'm still waiting on the DVD, which just got up to speed
[03:49] <professor_> I got the screen brightness on my laptop fixed
[03:49] <Kl4m> cube: see the channel topic
[03:49] <dan_l> Ok, yeah I guess ill try that.  Should I be worried about updating(aka has anyone reported FUBAR-ing)?
[03:49] <cube> i did
[03:49] <DBautell> cube ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/
[03:49] <ffm_> fyrfaktry: Yes, it's nice. For only 20~ USD more I can get 20Mbits up/down.
[03:49] <nickrud> favoritefood0 could be. I'd still attach that, the lshw, and  ls /dev/s* ,
[03:50] <osvin> What is the best version of Ubuntu for Core2 Duo, i386 or x64?
[03:50] <Shpook> fyrfaktry: We're gonna have to start mail bombing verizon :-)
[03:50] <cube> oh overlooked
[03:50] <dragobr_> hey guys, anyone know how can i uninstall kde4 on 8.04?
[03:50] <ffm_> dragobr_: Synaptic?
[03:50] <professor_> osvin, the i386 version
[03:50] <JoCoProductions> hey guys where can in find insturctions on the alternate install for feisty
[03:50] <fyrfaktry> ffm_: insane :)
[03:50] <jordanjay29> osvin: I'd suggest i386
[03:50] <Zelta> dragobr: In favor of what?
[03:50] <KyleK> why i386?
[03:50] <nickrud> !puregnome | DracoZA
[03:50] <ubotu> DracoZA: If you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here << http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome >>
[03:50] <ffm_> fyrfaktry: FTTH is nice in general.
[03:50] <KyleK> im using x86_64 okay now :)
[03:50] <Kl4m> osvin: i386 is the safe one, I use x64 but you can run into problems, wait until you have some Linux experience if you don't.
[03:50] <nickrud> erm, dragobr_ the factoid above I gave to DracoZA was for you
[03:50] <Shpook> Once I get FiOS I can cut down my $260 Comcast bill :-P
[03:50] <Zelta> lol, wrong tab complete?
[03:51] <fyrfaktry> ffm_: i'm sure. I'm still stuck with 6meg DSL
[03:51] <jordanjay29> KyleK: Because of what Kl4m just said ;)
[03:51] <dbristow> ok, zzzz time, I'll check the wubi.exe problem tomorrow
[03:51] <dragobr_> ill see.. but i thought it woudlnt work for kde4
[03:51] <dragobr_> thx
[03:51] <cube> dbautell ty
[03:51] <ffm_> fyrfaktry: Nasty.
[03:51] <KyleK> yea i guess i do know what im doing
[03:51] <DBautell> any time
[03:51] <nickrud> dragobr_ if someone has written something, it'll show up there
[03:51] <ricree> anyone know how to troubleshoot keyboard problems?
[03:51] <jordanjay29> that's a good thing, then :P
[03:51] <dan_l> ok thanks for the help everyone
[03:51] <osvin> I run i386 now, but I downloading 8.04 x64  for test
[03:52] <KyleK> bbiab testing a UPS
[03:52] <Shpook> fyrfaktry: Do you have Cox up there?
[03:52] <dan_l> gonna try the upgrade tonight when I get home...
[03:52] <DBautell> thanks, cox! ... :(
[03:52] <Kl4m> jordanjay29, KyleK: Some critical desktop components like Java and flash can be a pain if it breaks for a new user.
[03:52] <fyrfaktry> shpook: yeah, but I work for AT&T lol
[03:52] <osmosis> even if I have an intel core2 processor, should I still use the x386 iso ?
[03:52] <osvin> I hope my system run better
[03:52] <cube> u could use the 64...it says intel
[03:52] <jburd> So techno_freak, don't see you around much these days.  Why?
[03:52] <BubbleTea> LOVE 8.04
[03:52] <Fdisk_> where is the help channel for hardy ?
[03:52] <Starnestommy> Fdisk_: this is it
[03:52] <jordanjay29> Kl4m: Which is why I suggested i386. It's the tried and true version for stability on all modern processors.
[03:52] <DBautell> here
[03:52] <Shpook> fyrfaktry: lol Oh, well i understand then lol. I've almost moved just to switch from comcast to cox
[03:52] <BubbleTea> LOVE IT THANK YOU !
[03:52] <BubbleTea> >,<
[03:53] <osvin> ok
[03:53] <Fdisk_> well ive got a kds xf-9b monitor and a nvidia 8600 gt video card and at 1280 x 768 i can only get 60 hz resolution why will it not let me change it to atleast 75 ?
[03:53] <fyrfaktry> shpook: yeah, cox is pretty solid
[03:53] <dragobr_> yep, there arent instructions for kde4 =/.. but thx anyway
[03:53]  * BubbleTea holds up a 'Free hug sign
[03:53] <seamus7> osmosis yes
[03:53] <Kl4m> osvin: I think it runs faster but that's probably a placebo effect
[03:53] <KyleK> Kl4m: flash wasn't a problem, java was a bit of one with the arduino environment
[03:53] <osvin> ok
[03:53] <Kl4m> Yeah BTW how do I get the sun-java-plugin on AMD64?
[03:54] <Kl4m> I still don't know
[03:54] <Shpook> Kl4m: Good luck.
[03:54] <osvin> I 'll run ubuntu 8.04 i386
[03:54] <jordanjay29> Kl4m: not in the package manager?
[03:54] <Shpook> Kl4m: I had many issues with java in feisty 64-bit
[03:54] <kilrae> is it just me, or does the installer seem to lack a way to mount an encrypted volume without erasing what is in it?
[03:54] <ripps> So this channel is still open?
[03:54] <obf213> i heard a rumor a while ago that ubuntu now had one command to install all the mp3 flash restricted stuff etc
[03:55] <jordanjay29> kilrae: Why don't you mount after installation? So long as you're not installing to that volume
[03:55] <Kl4m> ripps: are you coming from #ubuntu+1 ? if so you've just been redirected to #ubuntu
[03:55] <dragobr_> obf213: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:55] <jordanjay29> obf213: sudo apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:55] <kilrae> ah, but what if i am installing to an LVM in that volume
[03:55] <Shpook> ARGH. The anticipation is killing me. Only 5.75 hours left until the upgrade is downloaded.
[03:55] <ripps> oh, I didn't realize
[03:55] <jordanjay29> oops, missed a line, use dragobr's
[03:55] <dragobr_> :)
[03:56] <Surrealwraith> Hey.  Just installed 8.04 on my IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad T60, i386.  When I close the laptop, then open it again, the screen becomes all "messed up" and I need to do a hard system shutdown.  Any suggestions?
[03:56] <Shpook> I'm switching to offtopic to keep this channel cleaner, I'll be back and forth.
[03:56] <famicom> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xmltv/xmltv_0.5.51.orig.tar.gz
[03:56] <jordanjay29> Surrealwraith: Adjust your power settings, I think.
[03:56] <Darkphyre> can anyone please tell me how to force a resolution in this new xorg server? it isn't letting me edit the xorg.conf as much as i used to.
[03:56] <famicom> WHY ARE THESE FSCKING SERVERS DEAD
[03:56] <twinkie_addict> how di enable the desktop cube in 8.04 ?
[03:56] <kelvin911> how many of you here use compiz fusion?
[03:56] <nickrud> famicom cuz everyone (including you) is hammering them ;)
[03:56] <jordanjay29> famicom: it's release day, and thousands of people are trying to download the latest version. Give it a break and come back in a day or so
[03:56] <Surrealwraith> That didn't work when I had the same problem on the beta, but I'll try.  Thanks
[03:56] <warriorforgod> famicom: they are not dead.  Many people are download 8.04 using up a lot of bandwidth.
[03:56]  * famicom sakes fist
[03:56] <osvin> kelvin91: I use compiz
[03:56] <Kl4m> famicom: Use a canadian educational mirror, they don't seem to have any problem
[03:57] <Shpook> !offtopic
[03:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:57] <Surrealwraith> Yeah, the download took hours
[03:57] <twinkie_addict> torent is fast
[03:57] <calc> famicom: aiui the servers do at least several gigabit, so for them to be overloaded means large amounts of people are downloading
[03:57] <kelvin911> osvin: does your video playback flicking sometimes?
[03:57] <famicom> Kl4m does that have the sources
[03:57] <Shpook> CRAP
[03:57] <calc> famicom: use the torrents
[03:57] <Surrealwraith> Comcast makes torrents impossible..
[03:57] <jwwadk> hello all, does anyone know how to add hotkey support for an asus laptop?
[03:57] <famicom> calc are you braindead
[03:57] <osvin> kevin911: no
[03:57] <milly1234> twinkie_addict, install compizconfig settings manager
[03:57] <famicom> im trying to get a source package
[03:57] <goat|work> apt-torrent be nice by default
[03:57] <jwwadk> mine cut out after i installed hardy
[03:57] <osvin> kevin911: run fine
[03:57] <famicom> not a whole iso
[03:57] <johd> anyone know how i can remove swfdec plugin so that firefox will stop using it
[03:57] <szx0> Is there a way to kick every other users off a server besides yourself ?
[03:57] <Darkphyre> can anyone please tell me how to force a resolution in this new xorg server? it isn't letting me edit the xorg.conf as much as i used to.
[03:57] <nickrud> famicom system->admin -> software sources , download from : choose other, and a local mirror
[03:57] <calc> famicom: then use a mirror
[03:57] <kelvin911> osvin: it is not that visible sometimes
[03:57] <doolz> Darkphyre, what graphics card?
[03:57] <kelvin911> osvin: but it isnt as smooth as it is in windows
[03:57] <nickrud> !attitude | famicom
[03:57] <ubotu> famicom: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:58] <p28301016> how can i upgrade to the hardy version with ap-get
[03:58] <Surrealwraith> Mine cut out after 30 seconds.  I called and they said Ubuntu is illegal anyway, so I should stop trying...
[03:58] <jordanjay29> Surrealwraith: You sure? I just adjusted my settings, closed my lid and opened again. It does nothing, as I instructed it too. And, yeah, comcast is a pain in the [you know where] for torrents.
[03:58] <famicom> !care | nickrud
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about care - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <Kl4m> famicom: usherbrooke seems to have source
[03:58]  * calc notes this channel scrolls so fast he didn't even see famicom was talking about sources
[03:58] <Darkphyre> 6600GT, doolz. the drivers are installed. but my monitor isn't being recognized.
[03:58] <osvin> kevin911: Maybe your video card is slow
[03:58] <famicom> Kl4m ah thatnks
[03:58] <nickrud> p28301016 if you want to use the command line, use    do-release-upgrade
[03:58] <twinkie_addict> thanks
[03:58] <kelvin911> osvin: my video card is 7600GT 256mb
[03:58] <kelvin911> it is perfect in windows
[03:58] <jordanjay29> Surrealwraith: Comcast is currently being a [female dog] when it comes to bittorrent.
[03:58] <famicom> calc next time make sure your brain is in gear before engaging mouth
[03:59] <kelvin911> i wonder if it is compiz that is causing it
[03:59] <calc> famicom: if you just use a country code server it probably points back to the main server as well, eg us.archive.ubuntu.com points at archive.ubuntu.com
[03:59] <p28301016> thanks nickruk
[03:59] <doolz> Darkphyre, do you have nvidia-settings installed?
[03:59] <Surrealwraith> Yeah, it's happening again.. I can't even see the window.  Just lots fo lines and colors. brb, need to restat.
[03:59] <calc> famicom: i'm sure i don't know much i only maintain openoffice :-P
[03:59] <osvin> kevin911: I don't know what is the problem
[03:59] <nickrud> calc eh, that's nothing to crow about ;)
[03:59]  * nickrud runs
[03:59] <Darkphyre> doolz, yes. but it isn't letting me go over 640x480 either.
[03:59] <pawan> can we install vista on top of ubuntu
[03:59] <calc> nickrud: :-P
[03:59] <jwwadk> does anyone know about brightness sliders not showing up in the gnome power manager?
[03:59] <famicom> calc and i maintain a whole other bunch of packages
[03:59] <Shpook> Real quick, can I just ask everyone to stop upgrading until mine is finished? :-P
[03:59] <fyrfaktry> hush it pawan
[03:59] <famicom> lawl
[03:59] <calc> famicom: i used to maintain about 300 packages
[04:00] <jordanjay29> pawan: No. You can dual boot or overwrite your ubuntu installation.
[04:00] <famicom> calc for ubuntu  or debian?
[04:00] <calc> famicom: but OOo is about equal to all of them combined in pita to do
[04:00] <osvin> kevin911: My Lenovo R61 has Intel x300 video card and run very fine
[04:00] <kelvin911> pawan: or try virtual box
[04:00] <calc> famicom: debian
[04:00] <famicom> ah ok
[04:00] <arc_shmoo> how do you get emerald installed on 8.04?
[04:00] <calc> famicom: but you can look at various packages in ubuntu and see my changelog entries still
[04:00] <jordanjay29> pawan: Oh, sorry, forgot about VMware
[04:00] <famicom> calc well personally i cant stand most of these ubuntards
[04:00] <pawan> i want to keep my existing ubuntu installation and wanna install vista
[04:00] <arc_shmoo> sudo apt-get install emerald doesnt work
[04:00] <Darkphyre> doolz, yes. but it isn't letting me go over 640x480 either.
[04:00] <famicom> but for the desktop it's nice
[04:00] <yago> does anyone has the torrent of kubuntu 8.04?
[04:00] <jordanjay29> yago: channel topic
[04:01] <nickrud> famicom insults for anyone are not tolerated. Last warning
[04:01] <johd> Noone here knows how to completely get rid of the mozilla swfdec plugin so that firefox will stop using it?
[04:01] <famicom> amyhow i', leaving before i get a permaban for not joining in their circle jerk of being helpfull
[04:01] <Kl4m> calc: not in Canada ca.archive.ubuntu.com = mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca
[04:01]  * calc doesn't bother with getting releases on release day, he downloads them a few days before :)
[04:01] <kelvin911> osvin: i wonder how much effect u turn on?
[04:01] <calc> Kl4m: ah that is good news then :)
[04:01] <x1250> calc, me too :)
[04:01] <Liquidy> Darkphyre:  using 8.04 you cannot change yo res. with a 6600GT?
[04:01] <calc> Kl4m: which is why you should check the ip address :)
[04:01] <jordanjay29> johd: uninstall the package
[04:01] <thezanke> anyone have any idea why all of my windows want to spawn underneath my application bar? thus hiding the ablilty to drag them.. i have to use alt+drag to get them out... the bar is still there... not a windows decoration issue
[04:01] <Darkphyre> Liquidy, yes.
[04:01] <johd> I already uninstalled it
[04:01] <x1250> hey calc, I thought ibex was starting today?
[04:01] <mrbird> how can i go about updating from the hardy beta to the hardy release?
[04:01] <XceII> Darkphyre:  try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg       at your next boot
[04:02] <calc> Kl4m: not sure why we don't have a mirror in the US (or didn't last time I checked) that is pointed to by us.a.u.c
[04:02] <orthodoc> my grub menu still displays the developmental branch...
[04:02] <nickrud> mrbird just start the update manager
[04:02] <Liquidy> you're using those "Restricted" drivers?
[04:02] <Darkphyre> yes
[04:02] <szx0> I am trying to perfom a netinstall... All online tutorials explain how to do this with "dnsmasq" .... I am using bind9, any links?
[04:02] <jordanjay29> johd: how about from the Firefox plugins area?
[04:02] <lee_> Is there no #Ubuntu+1 yet?
[04:02] <orthodoc> does it mean i am not upgraded??
[04:02] <osvin> kevin911: I enabled extra effectds
[04:02] <moon2js> my upgrade to Hardy from Gutsy hangs at "Preparing to install." I've tried upgrading from an alt cd and from the repos, but both hang at the same part. Any ideas? I'd rather not do a full reinstall if possible.
[04:02] <calc> x1250: well it should start by next week anyway since toolchain is noted to be uploaded by then
[04:02] <nickrud> orthodoc no, just means you have the latest kernel
[04:02] <calc> x1250: as soon as it is I will be uploading OOo 3.0 beta (assuming it builds)
[04:02] <johd> lets see
[04:02] <kelvin911> i wonder how to make new open window spawn on top of the screen instead of at the bottom of the screen
[04:03] <mrbird> nickrud: thanks
[04:03] <nickrud> orthodoc try lsb_release -a ,
[04:03] <kelvin911> because the docking icons are on the way most of the time
[04:03] <Liquidy> Darkphyre: can you lspci and paste the "video" line here?
[04:03] <calc> x1250: OOo 3.0 beta is supposed to be out on Apr 30
[04:03] <Kl4m> calc: what are those us.a.u.c servers anyway? dedicated for ubuntu?
[04:03] <arc_shmoo> so... you cant install any of the normal apps on 8.04 yet i guess
[04:03] <x1250> calc, great
[04:03] <PMantis> I can't get the dvd IDO torrent file from here... any other links?  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/release/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[04:03] <Darkphyre> Liquidy: i cant paste anything. its on my other pc.
[04:03] <twinkie_addict> i may have to wait the repose are being hit so hard i cant fetch compizconfig or any thing else , i was lucky it seems to get my nvidia drivers via add remove
[04:03] <PMantis> s/IDO/ISO
[04:03] <jordanjay29> arc_shmoo: What do you call "noraml apps"?
[04:03] <Darkphyre> Liquidy: i'll try to type it
[04:03] <orthodoc> thanks nickrud
[04:03] <calc> Kl4m: there are no us.archive.ubuntu.com servers really, they are the same ones in London that are the main archive
[04:04] <mortal1> I was wondering, given that many documents are displayed best at 8.5 x 11 format, is there any way to quickly grow the window to that size?
[04:04] <orthodoc> i'll try that...
[04:04] <Kl4m> calc: oh that's bad...
[04:04] <calc> Kl4m: it just happens that the London colo has really good bandwdith
[04:04] <szx0> I am trying to perfom a netinstall... All online tutorials explain how to do this with "dnsmasq" .... I am using bind9, any links?
[04:04] <nickrud> one off topic question: calc does the beta handle office docx/xlsx better now? (please, please say yes so I don't have to run the darned vm as much)
[04:04] <ricree> When I try to enable normal desktop effects, it says "The Composite Extension is Not Available".  Any suggestions?
[04:04] <kelvin911> which picture viewer is the best?
[04:04] <calc> nickrud: no idea, i haven't tested it yet
[04:04] <arc_shmoo> jordanjay29: wine and emerald so far im sure ill find more as i try to get it up to date but ive had it up for 30 min so far
[04:04] <kelvin911> i want something similar to ACDSee 2.4
[04:04] <Darkphyre> Liquidy: there is no "video" line
[04:04] <calc> nickrud: 3.0 will be the first time upstream OOo supports Office 2007 formats at all though
[04:04] <Fdisk_> does anybody have any idea how to fix this crazy resoloution problem ??
[04:04] <kelvin911> but all picture viewer i try dont open image at normal size
[04:05] <calc> nickrud: i'm sure it will take a while to shake out most of the bugs
[04:05] <johd> well
[04:05] <Kl4m> Fdisk_: restate please?
[04:05] <nickrud> calc I'll have to try, all but one person in my office kindly uses the old format to humor me
[04:05] <MattJ> arc_shmoo: sudo apt-get install emerald works for me (8.04)
[04:05] <johd> installing adobe plugin fixed it i suppose
[04:05] <johd> thanks
[04:05] <jordanjay29> arc_shmoo: I've got both wine and emerald installed now. Use Synaptic
[04:05] <jordanjay29> johd: glad you could get it working
[04:05] <PMantis> An live link available for this?  ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[04:05] <calc> nickrud: when upstream is provided example documents that are displayed wrong they seem to fix them pretty fast (for next release)
[04:05] <szx0> I am trying to perfom a netinstall... All online tutorials explain how to do this with "dnsmasq" .... I am using bind9, any links?
[04:05] <milly1234> ricree, enable restricted drivers for your video card
[04:05] <calc> nickrud: at least in the past for eg the old Microsoft formats
[04:05] <arc_shmoo> jordanjay29: im going to fall on a rusty spork now
[04:05] <nickrud> calc great. I'll pass on the ones I can
[04:05] <jumpkick> does anyone how a how-to for doing a dist upgrade with low disk free?
[04:05] <Darkphyre> Liquidy: "VGA compatible controller: nvidia corporation nv43 [geforce 6600 gt]
[04:06] <orthodoc> nickrud: returns no lsb modules available
[04:06] <twinkie_addict>  PMantis: see topic the link is there
[04:06] <jordanjay29> arc_shmoo: don't worry, everybody gets mind blanks
[04:06] <Fdisk_> ive got a nvidia 8600 gt card and a kds xf-9b monitor and at 1280 x768 i can only get 60hz and need atleast 75
[04:06] <Surrealwrait1> back.  Changing the power settings didn't help
[04:06] <calc> nickrud: don't start filing bugs about it until 3.0 beta is in though
[04:06] <kelvin911> how to check which video card driver i am using?
[04:06] <nickrud> orthodoc lsb_release -a in ubuntu says that?
[04:06] <Fdisk_> im running hardy with nvidia driver
[04:06] <calc> nickrud: the Office 2007 support in 8.04 isn't from official OOo
[04:06] <ricree> milly1234: the hardware drivers program says that they are in use
[04:06] <arc_shmoo> jordanjay29: thanks
[04:06] <kelvin911> is it dmesg ?
[04:06] <arbir_> is back with an alias
[04:06] <pipegeek> first of all, congrats on hardy :)
[04:06] <kelvin911> find "NVIDIA" | dmesg ??
[04:06] <nickrud> calc no, I'll be waiting till the beta. (and I wondered why some worked, thanks a bunch :)
[04:06] <kelvin911> what is the exact command?
[04:06] <osvin> kevin911: in your xorg.conf
[04:06] <arbir_> i installed syslinux but how can i tell the version ?
[04:06] <orthodoc> nickrud: do i then modify the grub menu by myself
[04:07] <nickrud> orthodoc sure
[04:07] <calc> nickrud: what is in Ubuntu OOo is some stuff that Novell/SUSE wrote (aiui)
[04:07] <ricree> milly1234: any other suggestions?
[04:07] <mondayrocks> ahoy ahoy.
[04:07] <nickrud> orthodoc but 'no lsb modules available' bothers me
[04:07] <calc> nickrud: i'm hoping the 3.0 beta stuff will be much improved, but i don't know its status
[04:07] <pipegeek> That said, the update tool is just sitting there doing nothing and consuming no cpu, and it's been doing so for half an hour.... any idea what's up?
[04:07] <ricree> milly1234: or is there someplace that I can make sure my card is compatible?
[04:07] <orthodoc> oh dear!
[04:07] <PMantis> twinkie_addict: That's the *desktop* ISO... I'm looking for the *DVD* ISO torrent.
[04:07] <harriseldon> kelvin911 system->administration->restricted drivers manager
[04:07] <twinkie_addict> oh sorry
[04:07] <orthodoc> nickrud: so do i keep running upgrades?
[04:08] <DBautell> PMantis, ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/
[04:08] <Fdisk_> ????
[04:08] <calc> nickrud: you can also if you feel like it install upstream OOo for Linux (or Windows) and file bugs directly in official OOo issue tracker, to take Ubuntu out of the loop, which does slow down response a bit
[04:08] <orthodoc> nickrud: possibly the servers are running full steam...so all the upgrading is taking time
[04:08] <compaqr4000> I'm trying to run open office calc via ssh and I get the following on one of my machines: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin X11 error: Can't open display:  Any ideas why this is?  It works fine on another machine.
[04:08] <Liquidy> Darkphyre: my server reboots at this hour, it holds over 3000 clients
[04:08] <IcemanV9> orthodoc: you need to add "-a" to the end of the command, lsb_release
[04:08] <nickrud> calc I've been using it since staroffice 5.0, and am very happy. Just some virulent window aficianados
[04:08] <pipegeek> I click "upgrade" from the update manager, then click "upgrade" in the resulting dialog, then it just sits there with 0 progress "downloading file 1 of 2".  I'm using the mirror at ussg.
[04:08] <kelvin911> what is going on ??? http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1dd3.png
[04:08] <Liquidy> Darkphyre: you fixed that?
[04:08] <sahak> hello
[04:08] <kelvin911> quick search out of date?
[04:08] <sahak> today Ubuntu 8.04 was released
[04:08] <sahak> congratulations
[04:08] <orthodoc> IcemanV9: I did that
[04:08] <nickrud> calc I already know that, I always check the debian bts as well before filing the few I do
[04:08] <]grimm[> Are there any known issues with Hardy and nvidia cards?  I just installed Hardy without a hitch in three 64 bit machines with nvidia cards but it's hanging up on an i386 install (which was working fine in Gutsy).  I can't seem to use the restricted (non-free) nvidia driver (preferable) nor can I use the nv driver, it just keep taking me back to the "safe mode" screen.  Any ideas?
[04:09] <kelvin911> should i cancel or disable quick search .  please see http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1dd3.png
[04:09] <orthodoc> IcemanV9: lsb_modules -a
[04:09] <calc> nickrud: if you do that though make sure they understand you are using their version of OOo instead of Ubuntu (or they will probably close the bug)
[04:09] <latitu> some thing fishy is going on.. i upgraded to hardy beta a week a go. and from 2 days ago. adept said iam fully updated. today hardy is released and adept (apt) still saying iam upto date...  ?
[04:09] <rodolfo> hi folks; I'm trying to upgrade Ubuntu from the cd but once the cd is inserted no upgrade dialog window pops up...what should I do?
[04:09] <milly1234> ricree, if you have an nvidia card I had to install nvidia-glx-new, if you have something newer, nvidia-glx for something a little older, and nvidia-glx-old for older cards
[04:09] <calc> nickrud: before i report any bugs upstream i have to verify them against the official OOo build, which is part of the reason it takes extra time
[04:09] <IcemanV9> orthodoc: oh. modules. ah. that is different. gotcha. my mistake.
[04:09] <PMantis> DBautell: Thank you, but that's still just desktop and alternate, NOT the dvd iso torrent.
[04:09] <pipegeek> clicking "cancel" has no effect.
[04:10] <nickrud> calc I don't file bugs there, I just check to see if they exist. If they do, I tend to leave them alone (unless there's a patch that hasn't made it into ubuntu)
[04:10] <sahak> where can I find statistics about how many Ubuntu iso images have been downloaded? and in general some statistics about how many Ubuntu users there are?
[04:10] <calc> nickrud: ok :)
[04:10] <pipegeek> should I just not be using the upgrade tool?
[04:10] <snadge> my father has a problem installing 8.04 on an amd/nvidia motherboard.. apparently the IDE drive shows up as scsi now, and at the point where ubuntu tries to format the swap partitions (it gives you no choice not to) it fails.. and loops back to the partitioning part whether you select "go back" or "continue" .. any advice?
[04:10] <kelvin911> harriseldon: the restricted driver manager dont gimme the driver version
[04:10] <DBautell> PMantis, you're right, sorry...
[04:10] <milly1234> ricree, sorry for the delay, I am lagged pretty bad because of a lack in bandwidth
[04:10] <Kl4m> ricree: instead, go to system -> administration -> hardware drivers and install the nvidia stuff
[04:10] <nickrud> calc been using debian since 2001, I am very aware of 'politics' ;)
[04:10] <calc> nickrud: ah :)
[04:10] <dragobr_> titu: thats normal...
[04:10] <arbir_> can anybody tell me what is this version number ? Version: 1:3.36-4ubuntu5
[04:10] <calc> nickrud: i used it since jul 98 and a DD since jul 2000
[04:10] <arbir_> is this version 1.3 ? or 3.36 ?
[04:10] <DBautell> PMantis, http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[04:11] <Starnestommy> arbir_: 3.36
[04:11] <kelvin911> how to check video card driver version # ?
[04:11] <gopp> can I install linux on a external usb hard drive using  wubi
[04:11] <arbir_> thanks Starnestommy
[04:11] <arbir_> Starnestommy: so i can installed syslinux under FAT32
[04:11] <calc> nickrud: so you have been using debian almost as long as me :)
[04:11] <nickrud> calc yes, I've seen you before.
[04:11] <pipegeek> upgrading from gutsy i686
[04:11] <calc> nickrud: i used to maintain KDE for debian among other things
[04:11] <milly1234> Kl4m, for some reason when I did that it told me it was already installed when it was not
[04:11] <Kl4m> gopp: what an interesting question. I guess it would work
[04:11] <snadge> is there a way you can either skip the swap formatting part during the install? or will i be forced to use alternate installer.. or even a way to disable the IDE drive from showing up completely (its not needed) ?
[04:11] <pipegeek> half the time update-manager freezes as soon as I click the "upgrade" button
[04:12] <kelvin911> is hardy out?
[04:12] <Kl4m> gopp: but why would you do that?
[04:12] <nickrud> calc but I have to admit I broke completely on warty. The promise of a stable unstable was just too alluring
[04:12] <rodolfo> I'm out of ideas could I get some help please?
[04:12] <latitu> some thing fishy is going on.. i upgraded to hardy beta a week a go. and from 2 days ago. adept said iam fully updated. today hardy is released and adept (apt) still saying iam upto date...  ?
[04:12] <hylinux> hi, everyone, how to upgrade my hardy beta version to stable version?
[04:12] <sahak> kelvin911: yes it is out.
[04:12] <Kl4m> kelvin911: ubuntu.com
[04:12] <gopp> k14, becuase that the drive with the most space
[04:12] <kelvin911> how to update?
[04:12] <dragobr_> latitu: thats normal...
[04:12] <PMantis> DBautell: Perfect, thansk!
[04:12] <Darkphyre> can anyone please tell me how to force a resolution in this new xorg server? it isn't letting me edit the xorg.conf as much as i used to.
[04:12] <calc> nickrud: i switched to Ubuntu during warty beta as well
[04:12] <gopp> !wubi
[04:12] <ubotu> wubi is Wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi-installer.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[04:12] <Darkphyre> can anyone please tell me how to force a resolution in this new xorg server? it isn't letting me edit the xorg.conf as much as i used to.
[04:12] <riskbreaker> hey guys. is there a way to set a gamma correction option in ubuntu hardy?
[04:12] <Fdisk_> somebody please help a po white boy just trying to use hardy 8.04 lol
[04:12] <kelvin911> should i update?
[04:12] <hylinux> hi, any idea about my issue?
[04:12] <sahak> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ statistics seems to be incorrect. Is there correct torrent statistics for Ubuntu?
[04:12] <kelvin911> because i know "if it aint broken, dont fix it"
[04:13] <hylinux> how to upgrade from beta version to stable version?
[04:13] <kelvin911> last time i try to update wine, it is screwed up
[04:13] <Utalcn2me> how does one get pulseaudio to work?
[04:13] <hylinux> will I change the package source?
[04:13] <dragobr_> latitu: use cat /etc/issue to see if there is no "dev version" printed.. if not, you are using the hardy final.. simply there were no updates on this last two days
[04:13] <sahak> hylinux: I don't think you need to do anything
[04:13] <jrib> !final > hylinux (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:13] <nickrud> calc hah! your nick was familiar, but I only know did a whois. Yeah, I do know you ;)
[04:13] <Kl4m> Fdisk_: can you get a console? (re: 75Hz)
[04:13] <XceII> Darkphyre:  as i stated before......sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg       at your next boot
[04:13] <kelvin911> what is the different between hardy and gutsy?
[04:13] <Kl4m> Fdisk_: by pressing ctrl+alt+F2
[04:13] <Fdisk_> yes i can get a consoule
[04:13] <calc> nickrud: ah
[04:13] <PMantis> Nice, 7 torrents running. Most are done, I'll leave them up to help out.
[04:13] <sahak> kelvin911: hardy is better
[04:14] <kelvin911> are there any performance boost?
[04:14] <dragobr_> latitu: the last updated RC version of two days ago is pratically the hardy final
[04:14] <kelvin911> how better?
[04:14] <krasher> hey i can't put my nvidia FX-5200 to work in 1024x768 in Hardy Heron... i've installed the restricted module but i can't choose the resolution on resolution configuration... i used this videocard in Gusty and in Windows at 1024x768 without any problem... when i choose 1024x768, it gives me incorrectly refresh rates... i use 60hz... but i get to choose 51 or 50hz
[04:14] <latitu> Dragnslcr Ubuntu 8.04 \n \l
[04:14] <hylinux> thanks , sahak, jrib
[04:14] <latitu> dragobr_ Ubuntu 8.04 \n \l
[04:14] <calc> nickrud: yep had this nick for 10 years now on freenode (about 3-4 years before that elsewhere)
[04:14] <nickrud> kelvin911 refinement, much better wireless (for me) and
[04:14] <dragobr_> latitu: so you are on hardy final :)
[04:14] <kelvin911> if it only fix the wireless issue then i am going for it, i am using desktop here
[04:14] <Kl4m> Fdisk_: log in and "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" try to setup your monitor with the questions there. Leave the defaults (or nothing) for non-monitor questions
[04:14] <latitu> dragobr_ really ?: )
[04:14] <chubs730> krasher use the nvidia tool
[04:14] <kelvin911> i mean not
[04:14] <sahak> kelvin911: everything is better man (Lord of thermodynamics)
[04:14] <krasher> wish nvidia tool?
[04:15] <pipegeek> I get the impression that it's trying to connect to ftp.us.ubuntu.com, even though I told it not to
[04:15] <pipegeek> I'll run an strace
[04:15] <dragobr_> latitu: yep.. there were no updates on this last two days, just that :)
[04:15] <kelvin911> sahak: like what?
[04:15] <kelvin911> gimme me some concrete exmple
[04:15] <PMantis> We need more people on the DVD ISO torrent - 28 days to completion??  http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[04:15] <arbir_> when i try to transfer myimage to my USB stick , i keep getting an error, can anybody help ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64304/
[04:15] <latitu> Dragnslcr hm
[04:15] <Kl4m> Fdisk_: be aware that you can break a CRT monitor with wrong values. You must know what you're doing
[04:15] <latitu> dragobr_ thanks
[04:15] <rainrunner87> Hi.  Anyone having any trouble poking the repos?
[04:15] <nickrud> calc I never irc'd until xchat dropped me here. I did bbs stuff a long time ago. I flamed much more effectively than most stuff I've seen on debian-devel. Another reason I changed
[04:15] <dragobr_> latitu: nop
[04:15] <krasher> which nvidia tools?
[04:15] <kelvin911> can someone post the DVD iso or CD iso to rapidshare?
[04:15] <Fdisk_> i got the book right with me
[04:16] <latitu> dragobr_ nop ?
[04:16] <HardyOne> PMantis: I am downloading torrent now
[04:16] <DBautell> PM, it took a long time to break 30k over here... It's still not up to speed, really
[04:16] <sahak> kelvin911: Firefox 3 for example.
[04:16] <Kl4m> kelvin911: it's too big.
[04:16] <ryanhedge> Hello there I just installed Xubuntu 8.04 but it seems a ton of packages are missing. Also I can't seem to update my repository. Is this due to heavy traffic?
[04:16] <kelvin911> i think ubuntu should post their file on rapidshare  or sites like that
[04:16] <blueeyesmike> Hi, just upgraded and I've noticed that now my power button and closing the lid on my laptop don't do anything? The event gets logged in /var/log/acpid but nothing happens. This is on a dell inspiron 6000
[04:16] <chai_> hi all... sound issues here... audacious, my music player, works fine, but nothing else has sound
[04:16] <osmosis> still no luck for me on ubuntu 8.04 with nvidia
[04:16] <dragobr_out> latitu: it was nothing.. glad to help
[04:16] <PMantis> HardyOne: Thanks! It's up to 64 days now. :(
[04:16] <krasher> i only have to choose nvidia-xconfig and nothing more... i'm a completely n00b at ubuntu... but i'm not blind to have to use it at 640x480
[04:16] <kelvin911> it is way faster to download from rapidshare
[04:16] <nickrud> calc anyway nice talking to you. </offtopic> ;)
[04:16] <sahak> kelvin911: why can't you use bittorrent?