[00:00] <Artemis3> well there is not much else we can do, the most updated flash plugin
[00:00] <Artemis3> and the most recent nvidia driver
[00:00] <Artemis3> save from turning off hardware accel in flash
[00:02] <David-A> p01nt3r: (in my system the personal plugins folder is ~/.mozilla/plugins with an s, (if or when you would need it))
[00:02] <p01nt3r> ok thx
[00:02] <Artemis3> oops typo there, i think it is plugins
[00:02] <p01nt3r> ok
[00:03] <Artemis3> wasn't there an add on to do it for you? i never used it ;)
[00:03] <p01nt3r> have the .so file just in .mozilla/plugins now
[00:03] <Artemis3> whats the file name?
[00:03] <p01nt3r> libflashplayer.so
[00:03] <Artemis3> did you do locate ibflashplayer.so
[00:03] <Artemis3> er
[00:03] <p01nt3r> just reenabling the nvidia-thing
[00:03] <Artemis3> libflashplayer.so
[00:03] <p01nt3r> no
[00:04] <p01nt3r> find / -name "libflashplayer.so"
[00:04] <Artemis3> also remove the flashplugin-nonfree package (apt-get remove, synaptic or your favorite method)
[00:04] <p01nt3r> ok, sec.
[00:04] <Artemis3> well find works too
[00:04] <Artemis3> and is more current :)
[00:05] <p01nt3r> hehe
[00:05] <Artemis3> (catfish is a handy thing)
[00:05] <p01nt3r> never used it
[00:05] <Artemis3> its gui for find/locate or other engines such as tracker if you bother to install them
[00:05] <p01nt3r> *plugin-nonfree is gone
[00:06] <Artemis3> good, now make sure there is only 1 libflashplayer.so in your whole system
[00:06] <p01nt3r> getting nvidia-96 back with xorg.conf first?
[00:06] <Artemis3> yeah, i see why not
[00:06] <p01nt3r> ok, looking for it
[00:07] <p01nt3r> only 2 files, the 1 is from the unzipped package on my desk, so i guess it's ok to have it there?
[00:07] <Artemis3> you can try a blank xorg.conf (rename it) and run jockey, it should install it
[00:07] <p01nt3r> jockey?
[00:07] <p01nt3r> never used it
[00:07] <Artemis3> thats the restricted hardware thing true name
[00:07] <Artemis3> it runs in console too
[00:08] <p01nt3r> aah yes heard it
[00:08] <p01nt3r> kk
[00:08] <p01nt3r> xorg.conf whole blank?
[00:08] <Artemis3> if you run it, i believe it will install nvidia-96, and configure xorg.conf like a fresh install
[00:09] <p01nt3r> ok then i do so
[00:09] <Artemis3> just rename it to something else if you want to keep a backup
[00:09] <David-A> (the name of a firefox extension that alledgedly solves flash problems is "flash-aid", have not tried it, finish you current plan for now)
[00:09] <Artemis3> lol yes, but this is the manual method :)
[00:09] <p01nt3r> David-A, that was exaclty the tool i meant!
[00:09] <Artemis3> just keep a single flash in there, i have experience of system with multiple versions lurking... not nice, sometimes works, sometiems doesn't ;)
[00:10] <p01nt3r> ok let's try it the manual way - only the manual way is the REAL way xD
[00:10] <David-A> p01nt3r: thats the spirit!
[00:10] <p01nt3r> :-)
[00:10] <Artemis3> well flash-aid might actually do the very same but whatever
[00:11] <Artemis3> ie: download file, copy to user folder :P
[00:11] <p01nt3r> let's try the jockey-thing. did rename the xorg.conf(it already was renamed as i explained before)
[00:11] <Artemis3> yes you can have many files in there, no worries
[00:11] <p01nt3r> ok, wait
[00:11] <Artemis3> only xorg.conf matters
[00:11] <p01nt3r> i know xD
[00:11] <Artemis3> you could even delete it nowdays
[00:12] <Artemis3> but the nvidia driver makes one anyway
[00:12] <p01nt3r> sudo jockey-gtk ...
[00:12] <Artemis3> and you can put back your options later
[00:12] <p01nt3r> k k
[00:12] <Artemis3> or from nvidia-settings
[00:12] <p01nt3r> i do not have any xorg.conf file this time
[00:12] <Artemis3> if possible
[00:13] <p01nt3r> only backuped onces
[00:13] <Artemis3> ok let the jockey do its job
[00:13] <p01nt3r> running...
[00:14] <p01nt3r> 24 days l8ter ... xD
[00:15] <p01nt3r> is the newest  flash-version running with ff from 10.04?
[00:16] <Artemis3> should
[00:16] <Artemis3> but you can always add the firefox ppa if you want a more current ff
[00:16] <p01nt3r> k
[00:16] <p01nt3r> let's try the repos ff at first
[00:18] <p01nt3r> still running the jockey-thing....
[00:18] <p01nt3r> ok reboot
[00:18] <Artemis3> p3 eh? white the oldie
[00:18] <Artemis3> quite
[00:18] <p01nt3r> xD
[00:19] <p01nt3r> btw.: jockey made me a new xorg.conf ;-)
[00:19] <p01nt3r> brb
[00:19] <Artemis3> as expected
[00:19] <p01nt3r> y
[00:21] <p01nt3r> k, nvidia driver running again
[00:22] <p01nt3r> let's try ff and youtube ...
[00:24] <p01nt3r> no video on youtube
[00:24] <p01nt3r> damned
[00:25] <Artemis3> about:plugins ?
[00:28] <p01nt3r> like before
[00:28] <Artemis3> so it shows flash in there?
[00:28] <Artemis3> you have tried other flash pages and they work?
[00:29] <Artemis3> then youtube is showing a black or something rectangle instead of nothing?
[00:29] <p01nt3r> work not
[00:29] <Artemis3> in about:plugins it should list libflashplayer.so
[00:29] <p01nt3r>     Datei: libflashplayer.so Version: Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202
[00:30] <p01nt3r> youtube showes nothing, even not any black rectangle
[00:31] <Artemis3> and this page shows the version running? https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[00:31] <p01nt3r> the rectangle just if i hover with mouse on the video-previews
[00:31] <Artemis3> you dont have any other add on messing with youtube? and you are loading a flash video instead of html5 one? (just in case :))
[00:32] <p01nt3r> the site does not show the version running
[00:32] <David-A> p01nt3r: just to verify, no noscript or flashblock extension? (sorry to ask a silly question again)
[00:32] <Artemis3> your plugin is not working
[00:32] <Artemis3> actually thats not silly, check :)
[00:33] <p01nt3r> David-A, abp is still disabled at all
[00:33] <Artemis3> addblock should be no problem here
[00:33] <Artemis3> ad
[00:34] <Artemis3> hmm you really really sure the plugin shows in about:plugin?
[00:34] <Artemis3> about:plugins
[00:34] <David-A> p01nt3r: if you login as guest (or create an alternate profile for yourself) you would run ff with default settings, would you like to try that?
[00:34] <p01nt3r> why not
[00:34] <p01nt3r> but wait
[00:35] <p01nt3r> Artemis3, yes, it does. just checked...
[00:35] <Artemis3> yes, its possible to disable plugins within the ff preferences
[00:35] <Artemis3> try the alternate profile stuff
[00:37] <p01nt3r> yes, doing so
[00:37] <p01nt3r> brb
[00:50] <p01nt3r> it's working with the new profile!
[00:50] <p01nt3r> but with some strange behaviour
[00:51] <p01nt3r> ff showes me that i have to install some plugins to get flash videos working
[00:51] <p01nt3r> and if i try to do
[00:51] <p01nt3r> it tells me, the plugin is allready installed xD
[00:51] <p01nt3r> Artemis3, David-A
[00:51] <Artemis3> hmmm
[00:52] <Artemis3> i wonder if the file permissions and ownership is ok
[00:52] <Artemis3> libflashplugin.so should belong to your user and should have proper permissions
[00:55] <p01nt3r> -rw-r--r-- 1 dirk dirk 17406436 2012-05-11 07:40 libflashplayer.so
[00:56] <Artemis3> try adding x?
[00:56] <Artemis3> it is weird to list the plugin but then nothing can use it...
[00:56] <Artemis3> and restart the browser
[00:59] <David-A> p01nt3r: if you run ff as another user and removed all .so except in ~/.mozilla/plugins for your normal user, then its right, that ff does not have flash
[01:00] <Artemis3> well, considering flash was installed in a user folder to begin with :)
[01:00] <David-A> p01nt3r: did you try another ff profile in same user, or logged in as another user?
[01:01] <p01nt3r> another user
[01:01] <Artemis3> of course
[01:01] <David-A> p01nt3r: did you remove all .so except in ~/.mozilla/plugins for your normal user?
[01:01] <Artemis3> if you use another user, you don't have flash :)
[01:02] <p01nt3r> yes, i did
[01:02] <p01nt3r> i use another user, but i DO have flash ^^
[01:02] <David-A> p01nt3r: then, let /home/anotheruser/.mozilla/plugins also have a copy...
[01:02] <Artemis3> well you can copy the flash file to that user folder, and make sure it belongs to that user as well have proper permissions
[01:03] <p01nt3r> i didnt do, and for the other user flash works! but still not for the old user
[01:03] <Artemis3> well i mean ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[01:04] <Artemis3> aja, that means sometihng in your ff settings is blocking the plugin
[01:04] <p01nt3r> hmm
[01:04] <Artemis3> for your old user
[01:04] <Artemis3> you can always use another profile, or rename your current one and make a new
[01:05] <p01nt3r> guys, very much thx for your help, but i am a lot of tired and have to go to bed now. let's have a look to this later?
[01:05] <Artemis3> hhehe as you wish, i might not be here tho
[01:05] <Artemis3> good luck
[01:05] <p01nt3r> ill try that profile thing tomorrow - THX!
[01:05] <David-A> p01nt3r: i'm confusd, did flash work with another user or not?
[01:05] <Artemis3> yes it did work
[01:06] <David-A> okay, goodnight, i'm off soon too
[01:06] <Artemis3> so the answer is in the old user profile settings
[01:06] <p01nt3r> (and i don't understand why...)
[01:06] <David-A> p01nt3r: its something with the ff settings
[01:06] <p01nt3r> have to go to sleep - THX THX THX so far!
[01:06] <David-A> bye
[01:06] <Artemis3> c ya
[01:07] <p01nt3r> ;-) bb
[01:35] <aeternum_solus> hi. why is it that when using apt-get upgrade, it won't download and install the kernel, but it does so with the gui?
[01:37] <Artemis3> you might want dist-upgrade for that, and try to have the meta package "linux-image" installed ^^
[01:37] <aeternum_solus> ahh. thanks. I'll give that a go next time it wants to install the kernel
[01:38] <Artemis3> synaptic is less obvious when using the dist-upgrade method
[01:39] <David-A> aeternum_solus: did you use the gui (update manager) first and apt-get upgrade after, then the kernel was already the latest.
[01:39] <aeternum_solus> anecdotally, how successful is dist-upgrade? I hear it regularly has problems
[01:39] <aeternum_solus> nah. I usually try to apt-get upgrade first, then when it complains that it won't install the kernel, I go to the upgrade manager
[01:40] <aeternum_solus> update manager*
[01:40] <David-A> aeternum_solus: did you try apt-get update before apt-get upgrade (i think it is needed)
[01:41] <aeternum_solus> no, I didn't do that. I'll try that next time it notifies me there are updates
[01:41] <aeternum_solus> also, it notifies me a LOT that there are updates. usually in the vicinity of 30 a day!
[01:42] <aeternum_solus> I'm on 11.1 by the way
[01:44] <David-A> aeternum_solus: 11.10 i presume? then your on your own :) do you keep an eye on the release plan, to see when they reach different level of freezing?
[01:45] <aeternum_solus> I used to, but not anymore. maybe I'll just stick 12.04 on
[01:45] <David-A> aeternum_solus: sorry, it's 2012 now, i forgot... :)
[01:46] <aeternum_solus> eh?
[01:46] <aeternum_solus> you thought it was 2013?
[01:47] <David-A> aeternum_solus: (yea, 30 a day sounds alot for 11.10 then)
[01:48] <aeternum_solus> interesting, dist-upgrade says no new packages to install
[01:49] <David-A> aeternum_solus: if you updated 10 minutes ago, even if its 30 a day, have some patience :)
[01:50] <aeternum_solus> so there's no difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade? if upgrade does the same as dist-upgrade, then I'm not sure I see the difference?
[01:52] <David-A> aeternum_solus: read the man page (man apt-get). (dubious help: I just read it but I can't say I understand the difference)
[01:53] <aeternum_solus> I did read it, but I still don't see the difference haha :(
[01:53] <David-A> aeternum_solus: it says its more intelligent. thats sometimes good, sometimes bad
[01:54] <David-A> (still dubious, help-wise)
[01:56] <aeternum_solus> I think I'll just download an iso and fresh install
[02:03] <David-A> aeternum_solus: "fresh install"? why? it seems to work as it should? or?
[02:04] <David-A> the man page will be the same :)
[02:04] <aeternum_solus> haha
[02:04] <aeternum_solus> nah, it's a bit quirky.. but I thik that's might be hardware failure actually
[02:05] <David-A> ah, other things
[02:05] <aeternum_solus> yep
[02:06] <aeternum_solus> hey. one more thing.. in /etc/resolv.conf, it has nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> .... I don't run a dns server on this machine. is that just network manager being network manager?
[02:10] <aeternum_solus> resolvconf, actually.
[02:16] <David-A> fwiw mine has two lines "nameserver" and ip-address somewhere at my isp, and "# Generated by NetworkManager" and was created around the time of my last reboot.
[02:17] <aeternum_solus> hmm. mine says generated by resolvconf. dunno. I guess one more of those quirks ubuntu has hehe
[02:26] <David-A> I have a recollection that one can choose if networkmanager or something else gonna rule. it is controllable by a setting in a file in /etc somewhere or one can install/uninstall the party that wants to rule but you dont want it to. maybe a little google?
[02:28] <aeternum_solus> I'm not overly concerned, because it does resolve to my dns server, but I was just curious why it uses loopback there
[02:47] <ouyes> office in xubuntu 12.04, the middle button(scroll) of the mouse does not  work.
[02:48] <ouyes> you can't use the  middle key of the mouse to scroll the text of the office document
[03:23] <David-A> ouyes: guess you mean click middle button and jox to scroll as opposed to scroll wheel roll. go to tools>options>view and set mouse>middle button to "automatic scrollintg". (default off in unix/linux versions of firefox and openoffice since we like middle button to paste)
[03:27] <ouyes> David-A, there is no options in my tools of office, are you in xubuntu 12.04?
[03:27] <David-A> no, 10.04 openoffice ver 3.2
[03:28] <David-A> is there tools>preferences or edit>options ?
[03:29] <ouyes> David-A, thanks for you help , actually I use the abiword, and I think I should install the openoffice
[03:30] <agentgasmask> ouyes: be aware that you can only install libreoffice from the repos. Open office can be downloaded from their website.
[03:31] <David-A> ouyes: go for libreoffice then, probably better supported in 12.04
[03:31] <ouyes> agentgasmask, David-A it is installing, thanks
[03:32] <agentgasmask> ouyes: oops, thanks
[03:39] <ouyes> it is really large in size , over 180MiB
[03:51] <David-A> ouyes: (with doc and java my ooo is 278 MiB)
[03:52] <ouyes> it is done, it is beautiful, I like it liberoffice
[03:53] <David-A> ouyes: (includes languages for english and my native language, add if you have installed more than 2 languages)
[05:03] <asterismo> hi guys
[05:03] <asterismo> i have a question
[05:04] <asterismo> i'm trying to use PCManFM as default file manager in xubuntu
[05:04] <asterismo> but directory menu applet in xfce-panel does not launch PCmanFM
[05:04] <asterismo> how can i fix this?
[05:05] <agentgasmask> asterismo: perhaps checkout /etc/alternitives? just a guess.
[05:05] <asterismo> cat /etc/alternitives ??
[05:06] <asterismo> agentgasmask, > no such file or directory
[05:06] <agentgasmask> asterismo: you'll have to google it. But basicly it handles what programs are default. also, check my spelling... hahaha
[05:06] <asterismo> oh!
[05:06] <asterismo> yeah
[05:07] <asterismo> agentgasmask,
[05:07] <asterismo> i could get in it
[05:07] <asterismo> thanks
[05:07] <asterismo> any idea what file i have to modify?
[05:08] <agentgasmask> asterismo: I don't think you modify the files directly. there are some commandline utilities to hadle that.
[05:09] <agentgasmask> asterismo: update-alternatives, perhaps. Might need to be run as root
[05:09] <asterismo> agentgasmask, if i have one instance of pcmanfm open, then hitting the directory menu opens a new tab
[05:09] <asterismo> but if i have no pcmanfm instance, it do not open anything
[05:10] <agentgasmask> Hmmm... sorry can't help you there. Anyone else able to help the fine gentleman?
[06:07] <Josh483> Can someone help me with my wifi
[06:07] <sambagirl> hi
[06:07] <Josh483> ;p;
[06:07] <Josh483> hey
[06:07] <sambagirl> what version :D
[06:07] <sambagirl> hah
[06:07] <Josh483> the newest i think lol
[06:07] <sambagirl> 64 or 32
[06:07] <Josh483> 64
[06:08] <sambagirl> any recent updating done?
[06:08] <sambagirl> added any new applications?
[06:08] <Josh483> i tryed but it said evweythings up to date
[06:08] <sambagirl> when  was the last time it worked flawlessly?
[06:08] <Josh483> idk i just downloaded it
[06:08] <Josh483> its been kinda buggy but mostly just the wifi
[06:08] <sambagirl> oh you just installed it for the first time?
[06:08] <Josh483> yea
[06:08] <sambagirl> has it ever worked?
[06:09] <Josh483> kinda
[06:09] <sambagirl> definately maybe?
[06:09] <Josh483> but i have to connect it to ethernet if i want to log in if i shut it down
[06:09] <Josh483> cause the wifi never auto connects
[06:09] <Josh483> and now it doesnt work at all
[06:09] <sambagirl> go to  a shell and type lspci -v and see what kind of wireless card it is. is it broadcom?
[06:10] <sambagirl> do you have a switch?
[06:10] <Josh483> shell?
[06:10] <Josh483> switch?
[06:10] <sambagirl> switch for off/on wireless
[06:10] <Josh483> you mean terminal?
[06:10] <Josh483> and no i dont think so
[06:10] <sambagirl> is it laptop?
[06:10] <Josh483> yes
[06:10] <sambagirl> mfg?
[06:10] <Josh483> its an intel wifi card
[06:10] <Josh483> mfg?
[06:10] <sambagirl> manufacturer?
[06:11] <Josh483> dell
[06:11] <sambagirl> hp compaq dell
[06:11] <Josh483> dell inspiron 6000
[06:11] <sambagirl> how long have you had it?
[06:11] <Josh483> 10 years lo
[06:11] <Josh483> lol
[06:11] <sambagirl> oh ok
[06:11] <sambagirl> jsut a sec
[06:12] <sambagirl> there is a wifi button
[06:12] <sambagirl> no?
[06:12] <Josh483> its an intel prowireless 2200 bg (calexico2)
[06:12] <Josh483> and no i liiked
[06:12] <Josh483> looked'
[06:12] <sambagirl> hold on
[06:13] <sambagirl> it came with it?
[06:13] <Josh483> ye
[06:13] <Josh483> i never got a different card
[06:13] <sambagirl> ok it was default card yes?
[06:13] <Josh483> yea
[06:13] <Josh483> well i updated the driver when i still had windows
[06:13] <Josh483> idk if that means anything
[06:14] <sambagirl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857608
[06:14] <Josh483> whats thaty
[06:14] <sambagirl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1010303
[06:14] <sambagirl> answers
[06:14] <sambagirl> solutions
[06:15] <Josh483> oh
[06:15] <Josh483> it says no for both blocked
[06:16] <sambagirl> you type lspci -nn or lspci -v an it says intel?
[06:17] <Josh483> yea
[06:17] <Josh483> i dont get the answer thing though
[06:18] <sambagirl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857608 <--- this looks like the solution to me.
[06:18] <sambagirl> well the reason i asked was so you could verify it was taht card but if your positive that link looks like the solutoin to me.
[06:18] <Josh483> how do i type this symbol? "|"
[06:18] <sambagirl> but there are smarter people then me here.
[06:19] <sambagirl> above the \ with shift key
[06:19] <sambagirl> |
[06:19] <Josh483> ohhh
[06:19] <Josh483> thanks lol
[06:19] <sambagirl> your welcome
[06:20] <Josh483> ok so
[06:20] <Josh483> i typed that thing in the terminal
[06:20] <sambagirl> your sure there was no update recently? cause on this other laptop i have debian and it just had an update and now wifi doesnt work on it...so it has to be the update. kinda like the goofy stuff with windows updates.
[06:21] <sambagirl> ok well select all copy it and paste to pastebin.com and submit and get the url and post it in the channel
[06:21] <Josh483> huh?
[06:21] <sambagirl> ok you just did a brand new install of xubuntu correct?
[06:21] <Josh483> yea
[06:22] <Josh483> i cant copy and past cause im not on it\
[06:22] <Josh483> its next to me
[06:22] <sambagirl> and wifi doesnt work from the git go correct?
[06:22] <sambagirl> ok
[06:22] <sambagirl> well plug a ethernet cable and get online with it
[06:22] <Josh483> ill try
[06:22] <Josh483> eithernet doesnt work
[06:23] <Josh483> idk why
[06:23] <sambagirl> it doesnt?
[06:23] <Josh483> wait ill try again
[06:23] <sambagirl> have you ever used linux/unix before?
[06:23] <Josh483> kinda
[06:24] <sambagirl> here is an idea to figure stuff out quickly
[06:24] <sambagirl> do this download ubntu 10.10 and burn it and boot with it and see what happens to see if that works first ok?
[06:24] <Josh483> yea ethernet isnt working now
[06:24] <Josh483> what do you mean?
[06:25] <Josh483> you mean burn it to a disk and try to run it on my laptop?
[06:25] <sambagirl> not try, boot it
[06:25] <sambagirl> with a cd live cd mode
[06:25] <Josh483> i cant my disc drive doesnt work for swome reason
[06:25] <sambagirl> see if you have functionality
[06:25] <sambagirl> ok
[06:25] <sambagirl> this is a joke i think
[06:25] <Josh483> i installed xubuntu with a usb drive
[06:25] <Josh483> im not joking
[06:26] <sambagirl> ok well burn 10.10 to the usb drive then
[06:26] <sambagirl> boot with that and see what you get
[06:26] <Josh483> i used some compressed thing cause it only has 500 mb of space
[06:26] <Josh483> and had it connected thru ethernet and downloaded the os thru the servers
[06:26] <sambagirl> you mean netinstall?
[06:26] <Josh483> ye
[06:26] <Josh483> yea
[06:27] <Josh483> could that be why the wifi isnt working
[06:27] <Josh483> did i do something wrong
[06:27] <sambagirl> ok well do a netinstall and install 10.10. i mean you said you just installed today or tonight so your not losing anything and your learning something about your computer and about yourself
[06:27] <sambagirl> no shouldnt be
[06:27] <sambagirl> you said there is no buton?
[06:27] <sambagirl> button?
[06:28] <Josh483> no but hold on im gunna try to go on ethernet again\
[06:28] <Josh483> im restarting my laptop
[06:29] <Josh483> i cant do another os load though
[06:29] <sambagirl> hold the fn key down and press f2
[06:29] <sambagirl> why not?
[06:29] <Josh483> cause i used my laptop to download and do everything
[06:29] <Josh483> and iim on my phone now\
[06:29] <sambagirl> i dont understand?
[06:29] <sambagirl> ohh for chat?
[06:29] <Josh483> like its the only computer i have
[06:29] <Josh483> yea
[06:30] <sambagirl> hold the fn key down and press f2 and see if your wifi light illuminates
[06:30] <sambagirl> once it comes up i mean.
[06:30] <Josh483> one sec my laptops turning on
[06:30] <sambagirl> k
[06:31] <Josh483> it always says waiting for network config when i turn it on
[06:31] <Josh483> under the xubuntu logo
[06:31] <Josh483> and it never connects and starts without network config
[06:31] <sambagirl> if you hold fn key down and then f2 does the light come on?
[06:31] <Josh483> idk what that is
[06:31] <Josh483> i gotta wait its not on yet
[06:32] <sambagirl> cant someone in here offer a suggestion?
[06:32] <sambagirl> ok
[06:32] <Josh483> i dont think there here
[06:32] <Josh483> ;p;
[06:32] <Josh483> lol
[06:32] <Josh483> ok its on now
[06:33] <sambagirl> hold the fn key down and press f2 and see if your wifi light illuminates
[06:33] <Josh483> it deoesnt
[06:33] <Josh483> it says networking dissabled
[06:33] <sambagirl> enable it
[06:33] <Josh483> it wont let me click it
[06:33] <Josh483> its faded out
[06:33] <sambagirl> you right click on the network icon on the upper panel on your right?
[06:33] <Josh483> yea
[06:34] <Josh483> but its faded out and doesnt let me click it
[06:34] <Josh483> just edit connections is
[06:34] <sambagirl> well hold on...
[06:34] <sambagirl> you booted with usb right?
[06:34] <Josh483> yea
[06:34] <sambagirl> you did netinstall right?
[06:34] <Josh483> yea
[06:34] <sambagirl> well why dont you go thru the process again? cause obviously it worked for you install it that way correct?
[06:35] <Josh483> i tryed that already though and gave up
[06:35] <Josh483> it still happens
[06:35] <sambagirl> well hold on. it worked before so it has to work again.
[06:35] <Josh483> ok
[06:36] <sambagirl> if your booting with the usb drive and you did a netinstall it didnt break your hw.
[06:36] <Josh483> hardware?
[06:36] <sambagirl> r u sure you paid your access bill? :D
[06:37] <Josh483> access bill? lol
[06:37] <sambagirl> seriously you have a smart phone correct?
[06:37] <Josh483> yes why?
[06:38] <sambagirl> are you using wifi or Gx on it?
[06:38] <Josh483> wifi but i have 4g and lte
[06:38] <Josh483> idk what gx is
[06:38] <sambagirl> ok so you know your wifi works. i could have typed Gn (n=3-4)
[06:39] <Josh483> yea i know my wifi password
[06:39] <sambagirl> 4g 3g mouse...mickey mouse :)
[06:39] <sambagirl> ok ok
[06:39] <sambagirl> do this reboot with usb and do another netinstall
[06:39] <sambagirl> it has to work
[06:39] <Josh483> i dont have the usb anymore --__-
[06:39] <sambagirl> ok
[06:39] <sambagirl> i see
[06:40] <Josh483> is there anothe way without having to do another netinstall
[06:40] <Josh483> im going to kill myself if i have to go through that again
[06:40] <Josh483> lol
[06:40] <sambagirl> the reason i asked you to do it is to verify your hw is working
[06:40] <Josh483> im pretty sure my hw is fine
[06:41] <Josh483> i think somethings wrong with the settings or something
[06:41] <Josh483> or maybe it doesnt detect my wifi card idk
[06:41] <sambagirl> forget the wifi you said you cannot enable ethernet
[06:41] <Josh483> well it  worked before
[06:41] <sambagirl> you said you cant enable networking
[06:41] <sambagirl> what did you do?
[06:42] <sambagirl> how did you break it?
[06:42] <Josh483> i might have changed some stuff by accident idk
[06:42] <Josh483> cause i was googling how to fix it
[06:42] <sambagirl> where is the usb stick?
[06:42] <Josh483> and some people said to type stuff into the terminal and idk if  i did something
[06:43] <sambagirl> where is the usb stick?
[06:43] <Josh483> is there a way to like reset it
[06:43] <sambagirl> where is the usb stick?
[06:43] <Josh483> i gave it to my friend
[06:43] <Josh483> why
[06:43] <sambagirl> where is the usb stick?
[06:44] <sambagirl> well you entered commands in a shell correct?
[06:44] <sambagirl> some people told you to do this do that...correct, in a shell correct?
[06:44] <sambagirl> where is the usb stick?
[06:44] <Josh483> i entered them in the termna;
[06:44] <Josh483> terminal
[06:44] <Josh483> and my friend has it
[06:44] <sambagirl> ok well go to the term again
[06:44] <Josh483> ok
[06:44] <Josh483> im on it
[06:45] <sambagirl> press the up arrow and look at the commands you entered
[06:45] <sambagirl> what did you enter?
[06:45] <Josh483> ok give me a min
[06:45] <Josh483> ill type them out
[06:45] <sambagirl> where did your friend take your usb stick?
[06:46] <sambagirl> haha
[06:46] <Josh483> sudo apt -get - -reinstall install bcmw1-kernel-source
[06:46] <Josh483> 1spci -nn | grep 0280
[06:47] <Josh483> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:47] <Josh483> 1spci
[06:47] <Josh483> sudo 1shw -C network
[06:47] <sambagirl> it works when you do a netinstall a
[06:47] <Josh483> huh?
[06:48] <sambagirl> it works when you do a netinstall a
[06:48] <Josh483> what works
[06:49] <TheSheep> a font that doesn't let you tell the difference between 1 and l is really bad for the console
[06:49] <sambagirl> i would go find my friend and get my usb stick back and reinstall a netinstall
[06:49] <Josh483> its not on the usb anymore i deleted it
[06:49] <Josh483> i dont even remember what i used
[06:49] <sambagirl> you dont have your own usb stick?
[06:50] <Josh483> i gave it to him
[06:50] <sambagirl> for ever?
[06:50] <Josh483> yea i said he can keep it
[06:50] <Josh483> why do i need to do a net install though
[06:51] <sambagirl> because you said you dont have a cdrom working and you said you typed in commands someone told you to do and you dont know what or why and your sytem isnt functioning properly and you just installed it tonight and you have nothing on it that is important so you can do it from scratch again that is why
[06:52] <Josh483> ugh
[06:52] <sambagirl> well maybe one of the super duper guru wizards in here can help you if they are willing to help i mean.
[06:53] <sambagirl> personally if it were me, i wouldnt hesitate to install it again.
[06:53] <Josh483> is anyone else here
[06:53] <Josh483> i just really dont want to reinstall it
[06:53] <sambagirl> well then you really dont want to have a stable system from the git go in my opinion.
[06:54] <Josh483> -_-
[06:54] <sambagirl> you have to be honest with yourself
[06:54] <sambagirl> i  wouldnt even mess about i would do a fresh install period.
[06:55] <sambagirl> i mean you jsut did it tongith and its not working they way you want, so why dont you do a fresh install?
[06:55] <sambagirl> i don't understand?
[06:55] <Josh483> well not tonight a few days ago but yea
[06:56] <Josh483> it was just so annoying and took sooooooooo long
[06:56] <Josh483> like 2 hours
[06:56] <sambagirl> and why you gave your friend your usb stick forever and you now don't have one and don't haev a functioning optical drive, i don't follow at all?
[06:56] <sambagirl> well you dont have to sit there and baby sit it you know.
[06:56] <sambagirl> 2 hours?
[06:56] <Josh483> yea
[06:56] <sambagirl> what are you on dialu?
[06:56] <Josh483> yea
[06:56] <sambagirl> netzero?
[06:56] <Josh483> netzerp
[06:56] <Josh483> netzero'
[06:57] <Josh483> its so slow
[06:57] <sambagirl> ok
[06:57] <sambagirl> what is it midnight there?
[06:57] <Josh483> thats why i really really need aqn alternative to another install
[06:58] <Josh483> yea almost midnight
[06:58] <Josh483> well for me its like 3 a,
[06:58] <Josh483> am
[06:58] <Josh483> but iam in another timezone now
[06:58] <sambagirl> i dont follow? it's either midnight or 3am?
[06:58] <Josh483> so its 12 am here
[06:58] <Josh483> i just got here today im still on my time
[06:59] <Josh483> but yea here its 12
[06:59] <sambagirl> got where?
[06:59] <Josh483> california
[06:59] <Josh483> lol
[06:59] <sambagirl> but oregon and california are in the same time zone?
[06:59] <Josh483> im from newyork
[06:59] <sambagirl> ohh
[06:59] <Josh483> lol
[07:00] <Josh483> where did you get oregon from?
[07:00] <sambagirl> nevermind
[07:00] <Josh483> lol
[07:00] <sambagirl> why dont you just go to one of those cali cafes and have a tofu latte and sit with your legs crossed and hum to your laptop and maybe instant karma will have it floating back online?
[07:01] <Josh483> rofl
[07:01] <Josh483> i wish it was that easy
[07:01] <sambagirl> haha
[07:02] <sambagirl> jsust a sec
[07:02] <Josh483> cant i reset it to its original settings and make a new account?
[07:02] <Josh483> and see if it worksw
[07:02] <Josh483> ok
[07:03] <sambagirl> type this
[07:03] <sambagirl> sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start
[07:03] <Josh483> ok
[07:03] <sambagirl> sudo ip link set dev eth0 down
[07:04] <sambagirl> sudo dhclient eth0
[07:04] <Josh483> i typed the first one in
[07:04] <Josh483> and it asked me for my pass and i typed it in
[07:04] <sambagirl> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:04] <Josh483> and then it said command not foun
[07:04] <sambagirl> try this sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:05] <sambagirl> your using your fingers not your toes correct?
[07:05] <Josh483> yea
[07:05] <Josh483> i typed it in
[07:05] <Josh483> it sayd cnnot find devices and failed to bring up eth1
[07:06] <sambagirl> eth0
[07:06] <Josh483> ?
[07:07] <sambagirl> look type sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:07] <Josh483> same thing happened again
[07:07] <Josh483> what if i  restore gnome-specific settings run following commands in terminal
[07:08] <sambagirl> ok
[07:08] <Josh483> rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[07:08] <Josh483> would that work
[07:08] <sambagirl> did you install something ?
[07:08] <sambagirl> are you a student or something?
[07:08] <Josh483> what do u mean
[07:08] <Josh483> no why
[07:09] <sambagirl> are you a business man?
[07:09] <Josh483> no im a regular person why
[07:11] <Josh483> ?
[07:11] <sambagirl> i forgot you dont have internet. it's odd you cant access your network. someone in here could probably have you up and running in 2 minutes but nobody is interested in your dilema i suppose.
[07:12] <Josh483> Sigh
[07:13] <sambagirl> can you edit your configuration with righclick over network icon?
[07:13] <Josh483> you mean edit connections?
[07:14] <sambagirl> yes
[07:14] <Josh483> yes
[07:14] <sambagirl> choose that option
[07:14] <Josh483> i fif
[07:14] <Josh483> did
[07:14] <sambagirl> do you have auto ethernet and auto eth0?
[07:14] <sambagirl> under wired?
[07:15] <Josh483> itdoesnt say anything
[07:15] <Josh483> everythings blank
[07:15] <sambagirl> ok select add
[07:16] <Josh483> ok
[07:16] <Josh483> what after
[07:16] <sambagirl> give it a name in the appropriate field,
[07:16] <sambagirl> check the box for connect auto
[07:16] <Josh483> it wont let me
[07:16] <Josh483> everythings faded out
[07:16] <Josh483> and locked
[07:17] <sambagirl> maybe pat_ can help you
[07:17] <Josh483> pat?
[07:17] <sambagirl> i guess not :D
[07:17] <Josh483> D:
[07:18] <Josh483> can you do like  a reset ?
[07:19] <sambagirl> i dont know how, it's not like you have a restore point you can go back to as far as i know just a mion
[07:19] <sambagirl> min
[07:19] <Josh483> ok
[07:21] <sambagirl> you installed something you had to have.
[07:22] <Josh483> what??
[07:24] <sambagirl> opps was in the wrong channel
[07:24] <sambagirl> http://askubuntu.com/questions/137245/xubuntu-12-04-network-manager-menu-is-displayed-partially
[07:25] <sambagirl> read that
[07:26] <sambagirl> have you powered down the laptop?
[07:26] <Josh483> mine doesnt look like that when i clikc it nothing comes dow
[07:26] <Josh483> down
[07:27] <Josh483> and its on why?
[07:27] <sambagirl> you can do a discharge on it to kill any static elec on the system board and poewr it backup. you have to remove power cord and battery for a discharge, you press power button up down 10 times and then give it a power source.
[07:27] <Josh483> should i do that?
[07:27] <sambagirl> well i dont know what you actually did. you said there is nothing on it of any value you said you just installed it and therefore i would reinstall they os when you have the tools to do so.
[07:28] <sambagirl> i'm to beat rigfht now josh
[07:29] <sambagirl> i'm sorry i could not help you. to bad nobody else will even try.
[07:29] <sambagirl> niight and good luck.
[07:29] <Josh483> its fine atleast you tried to help
[07:29] <Josh483> night
[07:47] <Josh88484> Hey can someone help me
[07:47] <aeternum_solus> yes, I imagine many can
[07:48] <Josh88484> Ok well my networking wont start anymore
[07:48] <aeternum_solus> error?
[07:48] <Josh88484> and i tryed some stuffn in the terminal
[07:48] <Josh88484> it said tht
[07:48] <Josh88484> the script im attempting to invoke has been converted to an upstart job?
[07:48] <Josh88484> is that why its not workin
[07:48] <Josh88484> g
[07:49] <aeternum_solus> how are you invoking it?
[07:49] <aeternum_solus> /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[07:49] <Josh88484> yea
[07:50] <Josh88484> it just wont start idk why
[07:50] <Josh88484> im locked out
[07:50] <aeternum_solus> hmm. not sure. I'm not a newb, but I'm not exactly a linux guru either
[07:51] <Josh88484> oh :l
[07:51] <aeternum_solus> lots of people here are though :)
[07:51] <Sysi> Josh88484: what kind of network setup do you have?
[07:51] <Josh88484> do you mean my wifi card?
[07:51] <Sysi> xubuntu by default uses networkmanager
[07:51] <Josh88484> yea network manager wont start
[07:51] <Josh88484> the icon dissapeared
[07:52] <Sysi> try pressing Alt F2 and running nm-applet
[07:52] <Josh88484> and when its there it wont let e enable it
[07:52] <Josh88484> i tryed that already but ill do it again i guess
[07:52] <Sysi> you need to have notification area in your panel and maybe indicator-applet too
[07:52] <Josh88484> i think that got dissabled tpp
[07:52] <Josh88484> too'
[07:53] <Sysi> add them to panel again, they're needed to show that icon
[07:53] <Sysi> "sudo service networkmanager restart" to restart networkmanager
[07:54] <Josh88484> notifications is there but its faded out and i cant select it
[07:54] <Josh88484> and network managers not there at all
[07:54] <Sysi> then you probably have notification area in panel already
[07:54] <Sysi> nm-applet goes to notification area when it runs
[07:54] <Sysi> what xubuntu version btw?
[07:54] <Josh88484> i tryed to restart network mannager
[07:55] <Josh88484> it said unrecognized service
[07:55] <Josh88484> 12.04
[07:56] <Sysi> clean install or updated?
[07:56] <Josh88484> clean install
[07:56] <Sysi> updated from previous release that is, you should install updates if you haven't yet
[07:56] <Josh88484> what
[07:56] <Josh88484> ?
[07:57] <Sysi> is your system up-to-date, have you installed updates?
[07:57] <Josh88484> i did a clean install so it should be
[07:58] <Josh88484> ?
[07:58] <Josh88484> plus i cant do anything it cant connect to t he internet cause network managers not working
[07:58] <Sysi> no, install disks don't contain newest software, you need to install updates
[07:58] <Josh88484> i did a netinsta;;
[07:59] <Josh88484> netinstall
[07:59] <Sysi> does anything happen when you start nm-applet?
[07:59] <Josh88484> i tryed nm-applet but nothing happens?
[08:00] <Josh88484> it said it failed to regester as an agent
[08:00] <Josh88484> the name networkmanager was not provided by any service files
[08:01] <Sysi> try to run nm-applet in terminal
[08:01] <Josh88484> i did both
[08:01] <Sysi> any errors?
[08:01] <Josh88484> just in terminal
[08:01] <Josh88484> what i just wrote was whjat it said
[08:01] <Josh88484> nothing happens without terminal though
[08:02] <Sysi> you only told error about networkmanager, whick is because it's apparently "service network-manager start"
[08:03] <Josh88484> ?
[08:03] <Sysi> run that in terminal, then run nm-applet in terminal
[08:03] <Josh88484> ok
[08:04] <Josh88484> is there a space between service and network-manager
[08:04] <Sysi> yup
[08:04] <Josh88484> kk
[08:04] <Josh88484> ok i did it
[08:05] <Josh88484> same thing came up
[08:05] <Sysi> are you on wired connection?
[08:05] <Josh88484> Started applet secret agent because GNOME shell dissapeared?
[08:05] <Josh88484> im on my phone
[08:06] <Josh88484> well tablet
[08:06] <Josh88484> but i use it as my phone too
[08:06] <Sysi> I mean your computer, how is it connected to the internet
[08:07] <Josh88484> Well it would be connected with wifi but its not working
[08:09] <Josh88484> ?
[08:16] <Josh88484> Hello?
[09:00] <Josh9449> Can someone help me?
[09:04] <aquix> can you connect using a ethernet cable?
[09:07] <baizon> what is the question? :)
[09:08] <aquix> network troubles..
[09:08] <hystryfe> hey does anyone have any advice for cleaning up the boot process for xubuntu? specifically, i'm wondering about some scripts that i see in /etc/init.d and /etc for things i have uninstalled
[09:09] <baizon> hystryfe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491
[09:09] <baizon> that should help
[09:10] <hystryfe> thanks that's exactly what i was looking for but for some reason google neglected to show me ;D
[09:11] <baizon> :)
[09:20] <livingdaylight> hi
[09:20] <baizon> hi hi
[09:20] <livingdaylight> hi baizon
[09:20] <baizon> im just a bot... your question please :)
[09:21] <livingdaylight> baizon, you're enjoying Ubuntu Unity but you're in xubuntu? :)
[09:21] <baizon> of course, im supporting as much as i can
[09:21] <livingdaylight> I have an AWN dock question actually :s
[09:21] <livingdaylight> I added a couple applets and just don't see how to remove them
[09:22] <baizon> livingdaylight: just pick it up and move from the awn dock
[09:22] <livingdaylight> preferences shows a delte tab but it doesn't activate whatever I do, including selecting the applet I wish to remove, which seems obvious.
[09:22] <livingdaylight> tried that too
[09:23] <livingdaylight> I pick it up and move to desktop and nothing
[09:23] <baizon> Drag the active applet back to the list of available applets.
[09:23] <livingdaylight> in the preferences dialog?
[09:24] <livingdaylight> gotcha
[09:24] <livingdaylight> thank you baizon
[09:24] <baizon> np
[09:25] <livingdaylight> easy, and maybe not counter-intuitive, but it didn't occur to me :)
[09:25] <livingdaylight> the 'delete' tab which does nothing is misleading :)
[09:25] <baizon> hehe
[09:26] <livingdaylight> ok, thanks again
[09:26] <baizon> your welcome
[09:26] <livingdaylight> bye for now
[09:26] <baizon> see you
[09:26] <livingdaylight> time to go to the farmers market and get a bit of sun while i'm at it
[10:52] <gmagno> hello. I'm using the super key to open applications menu ("start" menu) but I'm also using super+'e' to open thunar. Everytime I open thunar the applications menu also pops up because  super key was pressed  as wel. Is there any trick to make this not happen?
[10:53] <knome> well, you can remove the other shortcut of course
[10:54] <baizon> indeed
[10:54] <baizon> im using alt+F1 for the menu
[10:54] <gmagno> knome, but I use both shortcuts...
[10:55] <knome> gmagno, there's no way to make the computer guess which one you want
[10:55] <gmagno> I thout the gui or the os, would understand that Super != Super+'e'
[10:55] <knome> yes, but super+e has super too.
[10:55] <knome> and you are most probaby pressing it first
[10:56] <knome> so the system expects you to want to open app menu.
[10:56] <knome> set the app menu to super+alt or something.
[10:57] <gmagno> interesting... it is not that linear knome
[10:57] <gmagno> i just tried something interesting
[10:57] <gmagno> if you press super + 'e' and wait a bit longer
[10:58] <gmagno> apps menu (the super shortcut) won't pop up
[10:58] <knome> ok. then that.
[10:58] <gmagno> in fact, I have to realease first 'e' and then Super
[10:59] <gmagno> but it does not work all the time...
[10:59] <gmagno> nevermind...
[10:59] <gmagno> i'll survive
[10:59] <knome> my advice is not to use overlapping shortcut keys
[10:59] <gmagno> :-/
[11:00] <gmagno> right...
[11:00] <gmagno> thanks anyway
[11:00] <knome> np
[12:13] <jb999> Hello evryone
[12:15] <jb999> i would need help about ctrl+1, ctrl+2, ..., ctrl+0 hotkey beug
[12:17] <The_Cog> jb999: What's the bug?
[12:18] <jb999> thanks for your help Cog
[12:19] <jb999> I use a french version of Xubuntu
[12:19] <jb999> and i can't use the hotkeys : ctrl+1, ctrl+2, ..., ctrl+0 on LibreOffice
[12:21] <Sysi> disable them for workspace switching, in window manager settings
[12:21] <jb999> the computeur think i use ctrl+&, ctrl+é, ...<PHONE_NUMBER> are the french Shift of &é"'(-è_çà )
[12:22] <jb999> that's not realy a bug, but i've not found a solution for this problem
[12:26] <jb999> Sysi
[12:27] <Sysi> you should at least see if those keys are reserved and try removing them in settings if that's the case
[12:28] <jb999> this hotkey arn't used by workspace switching, furthermore when i activate my numlock (Fn+Num LK) i can use  this hotkeys
[12:31] <jb999> i use a netbook, so the numeric keypad is not easy to use (fn + inser to activate, same keypad to deasable)
[12:32] <jb999> but i need the key pad ctrl+1, +2, ..., +0 on LibreOffice
[12:33] <jb999> (the hotkey)
[12:33] <The_Cog> On my LibreOffice, Ctrl+1, Ctrl+2, Ctrl+3 change the paragraph to Heading-1, Heading-2, Heading-3. Is this what doesn't work in your setup?
[12:34] <jb999> no becaus my computer thinks i want the hotkey ctrl+& when i want ctrl+1, ctrl+é when i want ctrl+2, etc...
[12:37] <jb999> i've also tried to push the key to lock Caps, it change nothing
[13:18] <Padfoot30> Hi all! I installed the ubuntu-desktop package on top of Xubuntu 12.04 using "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends"
[13:18] <Padfoot30> then I encountered probs
[13:19] <holstein> Padfoot30: where did you read to do that?
[13:19] <Padfoot30> I booted into Unity 2D but there was no session menu, dash home didn't work, etc
[13:19] <Padfoot30> A blog: mylinuxexplore.blogspot.com
[13:20] <holstein> can you still see/use the xubuntu session? any XFCE session?
[13:20] <Padfoot30> (the blogger didn't mention the argument in the command)
[13:20] <holstein> Padfoot30: where did you get the argument?
[13:21] <Padfoot30> Yeah, Xfce works fine.
[13:21] <knome> that *should* work, but there's no guarantee nothing will break
[13:21] <Padfoot30> Even KDE works fine
[13:21] <Padfoot30> The argument, well, I read somewhere else.
[13:22] <holstein> i have always had issues here and there with the meta-packages and using them at the same time... i install lxde instead of lubuntu-desktop for example
[13:22] <holstein> but, yeah.. it *should* be find to install ubuntu-desktop
[13:22] <holstein> i would probably try reinstalling without that argument, or just purge it and run a live CD to look at unity
[13:23] <knome> Padfoot30, i can't imagine anything else than something in lightdm breaking unity, so maybe you want to do dkpg-reconfigure lightdm
[13:23] <knome> dpkg- ...
[13:24] <Padfoot30> holstein, yeah live cd is fine but right now I'm running low on data, and that's why the argument
[13:25] <Padfoot30> knome, sorry but I'm not quite an experienced user. I don't exactly know what's lightdm. Is it something like kdm and xfdm?
[13:25] <holstein> i would refer to the writer of the article that suggested the argument.. i have never used it
[13:26] <Padfoot30> Basically, the argument eliminates the recommended packages, keeping only what's essential
[13:27] <holstein> sure.. but its a meta-package.. i would expect a lot of recommends, and all of them to be important
[13:27] <Padfoot30> so less data usage
[13:27] <knome> holstein, nothing "recommended" shouldn't be critial though
[13:27] <knome> Padfoot30, yes, it's the login manager
[13:28] <holstein> you would think... but its the main environment... and something is borked
[13:28] <Padfoot30> but I didn't really need Rhythmbox, Thunderbird, Empathy, etc.
[13:28] <knome> holstein, a recommend for a file manager might be some plugin to handle network mounts, which is in no way critical for the file manager to work :)
[13:28] <knome> Padfoot30, rhythmbox isn't installed with xubuntu though ;)
[13:29] <knome> bbl, lunch/dinner
[13:29] <holstein> Padfoot30: you can try as the guest user... or another user you makd
[13:29] <holstein> make*
[13:29] <Padfoot30> knome, yeah but it was gonna be downloaded with that  package,
[13:30] <Padfoot30> if I didn't use the argument
[13:34] <Padfoot30> Anyway, I guess I'll have to get the full package now! Thanks holstein and knome for your help!
[15:06] <c_smith> hello, I'm having trouble getting Compiz to start on startup on Xubuntu 12.04 64-bit, I have "compiz --replace" in an entry to the startup programs, is there anything I am doing wrong?
[15:10] <c_smith> nevermind, found out what I was doing wrong, I should be adding the fusion icon to the startup programs instead of compiz itself.
[15:11] <recon69_lap> another satisfied customer :) , glad you got it fixed, dont think many here care about wiggly windows
[15:14] <c_smith> eh, I just use it to show off the functionality Linux CAN have in, say, a coffeeshop.
[15:14] <c_smith> and how it could really look good.
[15:53] <c_smith> is there anyone here with any experience with Samba?
[16:00] <recon69_lap> c_smith: best to just ask your question, I have used samba but not sure if it counts as experience :)
[16:04] <c_smith> eh, I figured it out, but I'll tell you what the outcome is: use system-config-samba instead of Nautilus-share.
[16:04] <c_smith> that's what I ended up having to do.
[16:07] <Sysi> samba would be worth a try, because windows shares never seem to work from windows
[16:36] <c_smith> Sysi, I know, and I use Samba to share music with the household (although for my own reasons, I give the share read-only access)
[16:57] <ikonia> l/ast dfrost
[16:57] <ikonia> oops
[16:58] <knome> congrats ikonia :)
[17:49] <rhin0> what would cause xubuntu 10.04 to lose its hardware drivers after a while on a dell laptop
[17:49] <rhin0> they just unload
[17:49] <rhin0> im moving back to ubuntu 10.04 on that machine just to see  if that solve
[17:49] <rhin0> ie. its happened twice
[17:50] <rhin0> both graphics driver and wireless driver *gone*
[17:50] <rhin0> like they're not loaded
[17:51] <rhin0> machine running fine for a week then BANG both drivers gone
[17:51] <holstein> rhin0: kernel upgrade... firmware upgrade... misconfiguration.. bad memory, bad hard drive
[17:51] <rhin0> 1 no 2 no 3 never touch it ie bios setup 4 - would be pretty sure its not memory
[17:51] <rhin0> 5 is an ssd
[17:51] <Sysi> jockey-gtk acting up, did that multiple times for me
[17:51] <rhin0> never had problems with it
[17:52] <rhin0> what - you've had the same problem Sysi?
[17:53] <Sysi> with nvidia driver, yes
[17:53] <rhin0> what the hell would cause drivers to just unload
[17:53] <rhin0> i don't get it
[17:53] <Sysi> gladly there are three version released after 10.04, even one LTS
[17:54] <knome> rhin0, watch the language please
[17:54] <rhin0> well hell I like 10.04
[17:54] <rhin0> been through them all
[17:54] <rhin0> ok
[17:54] <Sysi> no matter what you like, how much you like, it will die
[17:55] <rhin0> 10.04 gives me least problems
[17:56] <rhin0> ubuntu should be like debian imo (1 version)
[17:56] <rhin0> its all over the place - stick with what works - shouldn't be about marketing
[17:57] <rhin0> everyones trying to emulate the microsoft model
[17:57] <Sysi> you just told you have awful problems with drivers
[17:57] <rhin0> they do not give a hoot about their customers
[17:57] <rhin0> I have temporary problems which last a few hours
[17:57] <rhin0> bbl
[17:58] <knome> if ubuntu should be like debian, why aren't you using debian? just wondering...
[17:59] <rhin0> because I haven't got the energy to configure it
[17:59] <rhin0> ubuntu is easier
[18:00] <holstein> rhin0: whats the issue? did you run upgrades? if you have a kernel upgrade, then i would try booting the old one
[18:00] <rhin0> is xubuntu 12.04 lts?
[18:00] <astraljava> rhin0: If you think of LTS's as the debian stable releases, then ubuntu pretty much is like debian.
[18:00] <rhin0> maybe i'll d/l try 12.04 lts
[18:00] <rhin0> is 12.04 xfce?
[18:01] <rhin0> ok ok -- looking
[18:01] <rhin0> gotta be an improvement
[18:02] <rhin0> I have actually ran it for a short time - wil d/l it upgrade
[18:02] <rhin0> ty very much
[18:02] <holstein> rhin0: xubuntu is XFCE, thats what the x is
[18:02] <holstein> there is an ubuntu 12.04, and xubuntu 12.04 (and others)
[18:06] <rhin0> ubuntu lose me with unity
[18:06] <rhin0> can't abide
[18:06] <rhin0> lost me
[18:07] <rhin0> i know what ubuntus there are xubuntu lubuntu mint ubuntu
[18:07] <holstein> rhin0: you have no need to.. there are options.. you dont even need to comment about unity at all.. you can and are encourged to choose what environemtn you like, such as XFCE, and enjoy it
[18:07] <rhin0> can't think of any others
[18:07] <holstein> rhin0: mint is not one
[18:07] <Sysi> mint isn't ubuntu
[18:07] <rhin0> i thought it was an ubuntu
[18:07] <rhin0> ok
[18:07] <xubuntu326> hello guys could i have some help
[18:07] <rhin0> we are here to serve xubuntu
[18:08] <rhin0> 326
[18:08] <holstein> rhin0: it is based on ubuntu, as are many things.. and as ubuntu is based on debian (bascially)
[18:08] <xubuntu326> awsome im running xubuntu
[18:08] <xubuntu326> im trying to install my usb wirless adaptor but dont have a clue how to
[18:08] <xubuntu326> i have been on fourums tried many methods but will not work
[18:09] <holstein> rhin0: http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives if you'd like more information
[18:09] <rhin0> ok thanks holstein
[18:09] <holstein> xubuntu326: i would plug it into wired internet, and see if you see a popup about "restricted drivers"
[18:09] <xubuntu326> i am now on wired
[18:10] <rhin0> xubuntu i can't help you there all my usb keys work belkin netgear .. standard types - sounds like you have a non standard type - may need driver from manufacturers website -- there will also be a compatibility list somewhere for your wireless usb key
[18:10] <rhin0> mine just work (pick up network) when you plug them in -- generally only use them to get hardware driver for laptop
[18:10] <xubuntu326> i installed wireless on software centre put my stick in and it doesnt do anything
[18:10] <rhin0> gotta go someone else may help you
[18:10] <xubuntu326> mine is tenda w311u i no it is compatable as other users have had it wrking
[18:11] <holstein> xubuntu326: you can always use the windows driver.. theres a GUI for that.. ndisgtk
[18:11] <holstein> http://kimbriggs.com/computers/computer-notes/linux-notes/ubuntu-linux-wi-fi-card.file
[18:12] <xubuntu326> thanks will take a look and let you no
[18:12] <holstein> xubuntu326: its not really going to help to say "others have had it working".. manufacturers can switch chipsets... you can run "lsusb" in a terminal, and get the information about the device, and search for assistance
[18:13] <xubuntu326> Ralink rt2870  its on that oone
[18:14] <xubuntu326> sorry im read with linux
[18:14] <xubuntu326> rubbish
[18:15] <rhin0> I never said that holstein
[18:15] <rhin0> you use ndisdriver
[18:16] <rhin0> to use the windows driver if you can't find native linux driver
[18:16] <holstein> xubuntu326: it is not you who is rubbish... some vendors do not allow linux to support the products easily... im sure you'll get it sorted
[18:16] <rhin0> its a wrapper for the windows driver
[18:16] <holstein> rhin0: said what?
[18:16] <rhin0> oh hang on thought you were talkkng to me mis-direct ignore me
[18:16] <rhin0> bbl
[18:17] <holstein> rhin0: no worries
[18:17] <xubuntu326> u di no it is supported just finding the driver
[18:17] <rhin0> you can download the windows driver files -- then wrap then using "ndiswrapper" xubuntu336
[18:17] <xubuntu326> how do i wrap ?
[18:17] <rhin0> so it drives using windows drivers (wrapped)
[18:17] <rhin0> you must find out how to configure "ndiswrapper"
[18:17] <rhin0> get the windows drivers for your usb wireless dongle
[18:17] <xubuntu326> i presume this s a loong nprocess
[18:17] <holstein> xubuntu326: if its supported, i would ask the vendor for support.. otherwise, i would just point ndisgtk to the windwos driver and see if that works
[18:18] <rhin0> longer than getting native linux driver
[18:18] <xubuntu326> it says invalid driver
[18:18] <holstein> xubuntu326: its literally.. download the windwos driver, open ndisgtk... choose it... try
[18:18] <xubuntu326> is it the inf file i use ?
[18:19] <holstein> xubuntu326: you can always point it at everyone and see what the gui will use.. but yes, it should be that one
[18:19] <xubuntu326> ok well i got the ndissgtk do i need anyother software
[18:20] <holstein> xubuntu326: you shouldnt.. just the proper windows driver
[18:21] <xubuntu326> it even has a linux folder on the disk but n inf file
[18:22] <holstein> xubuntu326: it?
[18:22] <xubuntu326> on the disk the device came with
[18:23] <holstein> xubuntu326: cool.. you can try that one then... should be a "readme" somewhere with what kernels are supported and what you are intended to do
[18:24] <xubuntu326> no read me in there
[18:25] <xubuntu326> i have found one in another folder what would i open a read me with
[18:25] <xubuntu326> sorry im not got knowledge with this os im more windows
[18:25] <holstein> xubuntu326: then use the windows driver
[18:26] <xubuntu326> all i get is invalid driver with the windows driver
[18:26] <holstein> xubuntu326: i would call the manufacturer and ask about the driver
[18:26] <c_smith> does anyone here know what I would put for the application menu name so I can bind it to the super key?
[18:26] <holstein> actually, if it were me, id return it, and get a more friendly card
[18:27] <xubuntu326> have done they are chinese and dont have a clue
[18:27] <holstein> c_smith: what application? you can open a terminaln and try tab complete
[18:27] <xubuntu326> its a really good card for windows lol
[18:27] <c_smith> the XFCE4 menu on the panel.
[18:28] <c_smith> currently i have xfce-popup-applicationsmenu
[18:29] <holstein> c_smith: i would probably type xfce in the terminal and hit tab, and read the options.. until someone who knows chimes in
[18:29] <c_smith> kk
[18:30] <c_smith> heh got it. the entry I wanted was xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu
[18:31] <holstein> c_smith: cool!...
[18:31] <c_smith> was missing the 4
[18:31] <c_smith> xfce ftw! :D
[18:31] <c_smith> thanks for that bit of info about tabbing with Terminal. did not know that was a viable way to do that. :)
[19:43] <Papa> helloooo guys
[21:29] <nasserash> hi all, is it possible to enable VSync with xfwm4? I get tearing when dragging windows around. I have a thinkpad X220 with intel graphics.
[21:33] <DominicLow> not sure if that is possible but you could try propreitory drivers and such first?
[21:36] <nasserash> DominicLow, I have an intel sandy bridge card. so it's all open source
[22:45] <asterismo> does somebody uses PCmanfm?
[22:47] <asterismo> anyway to remove context menu entries in PCman when clicking in folders?
[22:48] <asterismo> It has this many options, Files, Files, File Manager, File Manager, Open Folder With Thunar
[22:48] <asterismo> can i remove them?
[22:57] <grizlo42> hey all - 2 things: 1) wanted to thank the xubuntu community for making an AWESOME os experience 2) speaking of awesome, I heard about a patch for xfce to support tiling and was curious if anyone here has experience with using it
[23:28] <MikeDRU> Hello everybody, I am stucked with my xubuntu because it doesn't let me boot into my own user profile (which is the root). One week ago it didn't allow me to enter to any profile, and the answer to the login was "stopping v system runlevel compatibility." SO I checked out the forum, updated the packages in the Ctrl+Alt+F1 mode and now it allows me to enter as a guest, but not as the main user, and the answer is "could not write byt
[23:28] <MikeDRU> Anybody able to help me? Please be patient, I'm a beginner
[23:41] <MikeDRU> anybody out there?
[23:42] <David-A> MikeDRU: what is the error when you log in from a Ctrl+Alt+F1 consol? do you ever come to the normal graphical login page? (you should not have user "root" as your normal login)
[23:47] <MikeDRU> David-A: Unfortunately I do have user root as my normal login. I come to the normal graphic interface, I try to log in into it, and the answer is "Cold not write bytes: broken pipes" and then "Saned disabled; edit/etc/default/saved". Sometimes also "Checking battery", but not always


[02:49] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[06:19] <ducasse> good morning
[10:11] <Deano59> good morning. :)


[02:27] <acer> nbv
[05:31] <sparky8251> anyone here use Kates snippets a lot? trying to script adding the numbers on some lines together but cant find ANY recent docs on it. most recent i can find is for like v4.5 and it seems to be on v17 according to help now
[07:36] <hyper_ch> hi there, having a huge problem.... after loging in, I see the desktop for a second, then screen turns black.... then I see desktop again for a second, then screen turns black and stays black... I can still see the mouse cursor.... I did move the user home folder to /user/xxx-backup and created new empty user home folder, still same behaviour
[07:36] <hateball> hyper_ch: new install, has it worked before, etc?
[07:37] <hyper_ch> hateball: it worked before
[07:38] <hyper_ch> needed force poweroff to do yesterday because it was unresponsive
[07:40] <hyper_ch> hateball: created a new user, same behaviour
[07:42] <hyper_ch> hateball: same behaviour even with new user.... interestingly,  Alt-F2 for the search still works.... but it's black background and nothing else seems to be working
[07:42] <hateball> hyper_ch: right, and this happened since an update or what?
[07:43] <hyper_ch> hateball: no, had to force poweroff yesterday
[07:43] <hyper_ch> because notebook was not responsive
[07:44] <hateball> hyper_ch: anything in ~/.xsession-errors of interest?
[07:48] <hyper_ch> hateball: https://paste.simplylinux.ch/view/raw/47fb63cb
[07:49] <hyper_ch> that was the new created user
[07:50] <hyper_ch> a problem with plasmashell?
[07:58] <hyper_ch> hateball: any idea?
[08:29] <hateball> hyper_ch: sorry beyond my scope of knowledge
[08:29] <hyper_ch> yeah :(
[08:29] <hateball> hyper_ch: suppose if you had to poweroff the machine in a poor state, liveboot it and run fsck?
[08:29] <hyper_ch> maybe time to use zfs and make regular snapshots
[09:49] <hyper_ch> hateball: so, got it to work again... first I did upgrade to 17.10 because I assumed some package file might have been damaged for some reason.... still, same behaviour... then I found to remove libqtcore4 which helped some users.... did that also... still no luck... then I read cups could be the culprit, purged and reinstalled... still the same... then I thought I grabe a 17.10 kubuntu iso, install it in a vm, generate a list of isntalled
[09:49] <hyper_ch> packages and and use that package list to do another apt-get install .... now it works again... few packages were missing :)
[10:15] <hateball> hyper_ch: weird
[10:51] <hyper_ch> hateball: https://github.com/sjau/bash-stuff/blob/master/apt-package-list  used that to get list of installed packaged in new kubuntu install in vm
[11:21] <John85> lo
[11:24] <hateball> hello
[11:30] <John85> sorry, think i joined the wrong channel lol
[11:31] <John85> nope im in the right place
[11:32] <John85> anyone use KDE wallet?  I downloaded the handbook,  but cant figure it out
[11:32] <lordievader> John85: Half, only my wifi password is in there.
[11:33] <John85> I have  created a new wallet in the wallet manager,  and from what the handbook says,  when i log on to a web site,  I should be propted as to weather i want to save log in details,  but it dont
[11:33] <lordievader> What browser, and does it have support for the Kwallet?
[11:33] <hateball> by default chromium will save to kwallet
[11:33] <John85> firefox
[11:34] <John85> ah ok
[11:34] <lordievader> Not sure if Firefox has support for it by default.
[11:34] <hateball> think you had to use a special plugin for firefox
[11:34] <hateball> plugin/extension
[11:34] <hateball> and now that mozilla has deprecated npapi... who knows
[11:36] <John85> ok,  found a plugin :)
[11:37] <John85> brb..need to restart firefox
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:41] <lordievader> o/
[11:42] <John85> that was worrying
[11:42] <lordievader> ?
[11:42] <John85> kde wallet wont accept my password for firefox
[11:43] <John85> chrome works fine though
[11:44] <hateball> yeah, never tried getting kwallet to work with firefox
[11:44] <BluesKaj> hey lordievader, John85
[11:44] <John85> hey BluesKaj
[11:44] <John85> might just migrate to chrome in that case
[11:45] <lordievader> How are you doing BluesKaj ?
[11:46] <BluesKaj> I don't muck about with kwallet, can't be bothered with it ...usually i receive a lecture about security at this point, but I haven't had any probs so far.
[11:47] <John85> i only really want KDE wallet to store passwords for websites, i dont want to have to enter my password whenever I open up a browser
[11:47] <BluesKaj> good here lordievader, and you?
[11:47] <lordievader> Doing good
[11:49] <John85> BluesKaj,  I'm thinking of going back to my old method of storing passwords too,  KDE looks like too much hassle
[11:49] <hateball> John85: well you can store them in firefox itself and use a master password, as well
[11:50] <hateball> John85: or just use a sane browser like chromium that works as expected ;p
[11:51] <BluesKaj> it's not kde so much as the whole wallet system is clunky IMO. John85`
[11:52] <John85> ye,  i tried reading through the handbook,  but couldnt figure it out, so will probably just leave it
[11:52] <John85> i do need to change my passwords though
[11:54] <BluesKaj> chrome works well ...i switched after FF decided they needed pulseaudio for web-audio ... not on my pcs they don't
[11:56] <John85> im just so used to using firefox,  used it for as long as i can remember
[11:58] <BluesKaj> me too but chrome quickly became my dwfault due to it's features , like PIA vpn extn and embedded version of flash that works
[12:00] <John85> if i cant get firefox to work again,  i may have to anyway
[12:14] <John85> anyone know of any apps available for checking security of passwords?
[12:17] <hateball> John85: see this https://www.cyberciti.biz/security/linux-password-strength-checker/
[12:17] <hateball> I use pwgen to generate random passwords
[12:21] <John85> random passwords are ok if you are storing them,  but i need a memorable yet secure master
[12:22] <John85> i believe my current one is secure,  but need to be sure,  and its probably time i chnaged it anyway
[12:22] <hateball> well yes, obviously you would not use kittykat1 as your master password :p
[12:23] <John85> no,  i googled most used passwords a while ago out of curiosity,  cant believe home many people use things like 12345 or qwerty
[12:30] <John85> hmmm...cracklib check says my password is "OK",  does not say how OK though lol
[12:31] <hateball> well either it's good or it's bad
[12:31] <hateball> either you can crack it easily, or you can't
[12:33] <John85> ok
[12:34] <John85> right..i best do some work
[12:34] <John85> speak soon
[12:47] <ForceRecon> !IrEaLlYcAnTsTaNdThIsMaChInE06061966
[12:48] <BluesKaj> ForceRecon, :-)
[12:48] <ForceRecon> Hey BluesKaj!  I just had to install chrome today to utilize some cryptography class videos in the browser.. Unfortunately Full screen ended up being the video in the middle with a huge white box around it
[12:53] <BluesKaj> perhaps the video aspect ratio is limiting it's size on full screen. ForceRecon
[12:54] <BluesKaj> ForceRecon, why use a browser anyway
[12:54] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:14] <ForceRecon> sorry for delay
[13:14] <ForceRecon> the classes are posted online
[13:14] <ForceRecon> I can see them in YouTube but would rather do the ones from the official site and firefox won't play them
[13:15] <ForceRecon> http://www.crypto-textbook.com/ == online Course / Videos
[13:16] <ForceRecon> I just keep going here and use FF.. - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1usFRN4LCMcfIV7UjHNuQg/videos
[13:16] <ForceRecon> great teacher.. great classes
[13:24] <BluesKaj> ForceRecon, the youtube video works fullscreen here
[13:24] <BluesKaj> on chrome
[14:40] <dougl> morning
[14:41] <BluesKaj> 'Morning dougl
[14:41] <dougl> BluesKaj, how you making out wit vpn stuff?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> good, i installed a PIA vpn extn on chrome which hides my IP while I surf
[14:42] <BluesKaj> think Nordvpn has the same xetn
[14:43] <BluesKaj> extn even
[14:44] <dougl> BluesKaj, I never under stood the difference between vpn to be incognito or vpn to access remote network.
[14:47] <BluesKaj> dougl, their IP is substiuted for your actual IP by your vpn tunnel to their server , so thwe server IP shows as yours , not exactly incognito because an actual vpn server IP is shown as yours, but it ends there
[14:53] <dougl> BluesKaj, do you have a url for an educational read?
[14:55]  * dougl brb
[14:59] <dougl> k
[16:09] <threebar> so, i need help with sound
[16:09] <threebar> i have a Lenovo laptop, if that's important
[16:09] <threebar> 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD Audio (rev 31)
[16:09] <threebar> standard 17.04 install
[16:10] <threebar> never messed with any sound
[16:10] <threebar> it just kinda worked
[16:10] <threebar> only problem: i start the system, it works fine. if i plug in my headphones, the audio switches to them. if i unplug them, it switches back to speakers
[16:10] <threebar> now, if i plug in the headphones again, no sound. unplugging sends sound to speakers
[16:11] <threebar> headphones never get sound until i restart
[16:11] <threebar> I haven't really had to mess with Linux sound stuff since ALSA was new, so I don't know much about PluseAudio or whatever the stuff is today
[16:19] <BluesKaj> threebar, open alsamixer in the terminal and make sure automute is disabled, then add this line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, oprions snd-hda-intel index=0. That should help solidify your audio output settings
[16:19] <BluesKaj> correction: options snd-hda-intel index=0
[16:20] <threebar> ok, doing
[16:21] <threebar> done
[16:21] <threebar> should i test now?
[16:22] <threebar> same behavior
[16:22] <BluesKaj> logout and back in first
[16:22] <threebar> okay...
[16:22] <threebar> brb
[16:23] <threebar> back
[16:23] <threebar> 1 sec for me to check
[16:24] <threebar> negative
[16:24] <threebar> still broken
[16:24] <threebar> headphone cable unplugged, speakers work fine. plugged in = no sound
[16:25] <threebar> alsamixer headphone volume at 100, auto-mute = disabled
[16:25] <BluesKaj> you might have to reset your pulseaudio settings in system settings>multimedia>hardware
[16:26] <threebar> checking
[16:26] <BluesKaj> bbl..errands for 20mins or so
[16:27] <threebar> nothing working there
[16:28] <threebar> unplugging headphones makes stuff work there
[16:51] <kiroma> Hey, I'm eccountering a bug at random that makes Plasmashell use 100% of one thread for no apparent reason.
[16:54] <kiroma> I'm eccountering it right now, but the system still feels responsive.
[16:55] <kiroma> It looks like it has a softlocked while() loop somewhere, but I can't trace it down with perf top
[17:20] <mparillo> kiroma: I have seen that with dynamic wallpapers
[17:28] <kiroma> Don't have that mparillo
[17:29] <kiroma> But I have few widget
[17:29] <kiroma> s
[17:30] <kiroma> Oh and also mousing over a tab in task bar emits XCB Error
[18:18] <user|86554> hola
[18:18] <user|86554> Hello
[18:22] <user|86554> tengo una duda
[18:22] <user|86554> ojala puedan ayudarme
[18:22] <Ab3L> user|86554: this is an English channel
[18:22] <user|86554> i need help with Kubuntu
[18:22] <user|86554> ahh
[18:24] <Ab3L> user|86554: let us know your needs, and if someone that can help is reading, he/she will answer you.
[18:24] <user|86554> what software i should to use Kubuntu booteable in a a pendrive?
[18:24] <user|86554> Im in Ubuntu
[18:33] <kiroma> user|86554: gnome-disks
[18:34] <kiroma> You can use any software you want, Kubuntu's installation image is just like any other one, but gnome-disks is already avaible and has option to write a disk image.
[19:21] <v3n0m> Please help me out. I am using kubuntu and I am behind a proxy in my university. The proxy settings of kde are not working.
[19:21] <v3n0m> I can't even use discover. I have to setup a proxy manually in firefox etc and the apps don't get the proxy itself.
[19:23] <v3n0m> I just used arch linux before and kde in it and it seemed to work that way in the proxy settings but it does not work in kubuntu. The version of kubuntu is 17.04
[19:23] <v3n0m> I really love kde and this is annoying me.
[19:24] <v3n0m> Anyone will help me or should I just leave?
[19:24] <BluesKaj> v3n0m, do you have the proxy set in system settings>settings>proxy?
[19:24] <v3n0m> yeah
[19:25] <v3n0m> I tried everything.
[19:25] <BluesKaj> which setting in proxy?
[19:25] <v3n0m> Setting up environment variables and allowing it to auto detect it. And setting up an environment variable myself.
[19:25] <v3n0m> Use manually.
[19:25] <BluesKaj> did you logout after each change
[19:25] <v3n0m> Is what I tired first and then the other.
[19:26] <v3n0m> Yeah, I rebooted.
[19:26] <v3n0m> I can make apt work through setting an environment variable but discover ain't working and neither the driver manager.
[19:27] <v3n0m> I mean it should just work by setting up proxy in the proxy setting just like gnome.
[19:27] <v3n0m> Why is it having this issue?
[19:28] <bael-c4> hello
[19:28] <bael-c4> where am i?
[19:29] <v3n0m> You are in the matrix talking to the 0s and 1s.
[19:29] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu
[19:29] <BluesKaj> bael-c4,  ^  this where
[19:29] <v3n0m> BluesKaj please help
[19:30] <v3n0m> This is getting frustrating.
[19:30] <bael-c4> thanks, now all is clear :-)
[19:30] <bael-c4> cheers
[19:31] <v3n0m> I mean, please there has to be a way.
[19:31] <BluesKaj> v3n0m, have you tried without the variables, whatever they may be
[19:31] <v3n0m> Yeah, without it as well.
[19:31] <v3n0m> I first set up without variables and was hoping it to work.
[19:31] <v3n0m> I mean, any issue with the proxy settings?
[19:32] <v3n0m> It didn't work in live evnvironment either while installing kubuntu.
[19:35] <v3n0m> Please any solution
[19:39] <BluesKaj> v3n0m, perhaps asking in #kde chat might help, if not there , then try the ##linux chat
[19:43] <v3n0m> What can be the issue?
[19:59] <v3n0m> It started working after I selected the option defaults
[20:00] <v3n0m> don't know what was the problem
[20:03] <v3n0m> Well yeah seemed like network manager wasn't running by default. All I did was sudo NetworkManager and it started working.
[20:57] <jamisnemo> If i install kubuntu fresh, what kernel version will it come with?
[20:57] <jamisnemo> or rather, how do i find that out?
[20:58] <genii> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[20:58] <genii> !info linux-image-generic zesty
[20:58] <genii> !info linux-image-generic artful
[20:58]  * genii goes back to making another pot of coffee
[21:07] <jamisnemo> genii, thanks!
[23:02] <ForceRecon> join #freenode


[00:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: wolfssl [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [5.2.0-1] (no packageset)
[00:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (focal-proposed/main) [21.4-0ubuntu1~20.04.1 => 22.1-1-gb3d9acdd-0ubuntu1~20.04.1] (core, edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud)
[00:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (impish-proposed/main) [21.4-0ubuntu1~21.10.1 => 22.1-1-gb3d9acdd-0ubuntu1~21.10.1] (core, ubuntu-cloud)
[00:21] <vorlon> bdmurray: "safe"?
[00:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted liboping [armhf] (jammy-proposed) [1.10.0-5]
[00:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wolfssl [arm64] (jammy-proposed) [5.2.0-1]
[00:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wolfssl [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed) [5.2.0-1]
[00:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted liboping [s390x] (jammy-proposed) [1.10.0-5]
[00:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wolfssl [s390x] (jammy-proposed) [5.2.0-1]
[00:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wolfssl [armhf] (jammy-proposed) [5.2.0-1]
[00:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted cloud-enum [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [0.6-2]
[00:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted liboping [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [1.10.0-5]
[00:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted liboping [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed) [1.10.0-5]
[00:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dh-haskell [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [0.6.1]
[00:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wolfssl [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [5.2.0-1]
[00:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted liboping [arm64] (jammy-proposed) [1.10.0-5]
[00:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: qgis [amd64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [3.22.4+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[00:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: qgis [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/universe) [3.22.4+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[01:08] <xnox> vorlon:  it would be so nice to migrate python3-defaults and perl
[01:08] <xnox> vorlon:  or like mark that only libreoffice from proposed should be tested, as that's the one that works.
[01:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: qgis [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [3.22.4+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[01:18] <vorlon> xnox: it would be nice if the linux packages would stop referencing crda so I could remove it, and if the cloud kernels didn't still have references to libssl1.1 in the release pocket ;)
[02:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity amd64 [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[02:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity arm64 [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[02:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity ppc64el [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[02:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity s390x [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[03:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: qgis [arm64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [3.22.4+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[04:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: qgis [armhf] (jammy-proposed/universe) [3.22.4+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[05:03] <blackboxsw> sru vanguard for tomorrow Wednesday, please feel free to reject cloud-init 22.1 queued -proposed uploads for impish, focal and bionic. I'll have to reupload tomorrow with a minor tweak to retain original behavior of some commented APT sources.
[05:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python3-onelogin-saml2 [amd64] (jammy-proposed/none) [1.12.0-1] (no packageset)
[05:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python3-onelogin-saml2 [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/none) [1.12.0-1] (no packageset)
[05:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python3-onelogin-saml2 [arm64] (jammy-proposed/none) [1.12.0-1] (no packageset)
[05:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python3-onelogin-saml2 [armhf] (jammy-proposed/none) [1.12.0-1] (no packageset)
[06:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python3-onelogin-saml2 [riscv64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.12.0-1] (no packageset)
[06:43] <ricotz> hello, please retry https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/expat/2.4.6-1/+build/23192209
[06:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [3.22.4+dfsg-1]
[06:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [armhf] (jammy-proposed) [3.22.4+dfsg-1]
[06:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [s390x] (jammy-proposed) [3.22.4+dfsg-1]
[06:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [arm64] (jammy-proposed) [3.22.4+dfsg-1]
[06:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qgis [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed) [3.22.4+dfsg-1]
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-12 [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [12-20220222-1ubuntu1]
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-12 [armhf] (jammy-proposed) [12-20220222-1ubuntu1]
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-12 [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed) [12-20220222-1ubuntu1]
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python3-onelogin-saml2 [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [1.12.0-1]
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python3-onelogin-saml2 [armhf] (jammy-proposed) [1.12.0-1]
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python3-onelogin-saml2 [riscv64] (jammy-proposed) [1.12.0-1]
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-12 [arm64] (jammy-proposed) [12-20220222-1ubuntu1]
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-12 [s390x] (jammy-proposed) [12-20220222-1ubuntu1]
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python3-onelogin-saml2 [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed) [1.12.0-1]
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-12 [i386] (jammy-proposed) [12-20220222-1ubuntu1]
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python3-onelogin-saml2 [arm64] (jammy-proposed) [1.12.0-1]
[07:23] <ginggs> ricotz: someone did it 0.5 hours ago
[07:26] <ricotz> ginggs, good enough :)
[07:27] <ricotz> ginggs, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krb5/1.19.2-2/+build/23189415 cancel and retry?
[07:33] <ginggs> ricotz: .
[07:35] <ricotz> ginggs, thank you
[07:36] <ricotz> ginggs, could you take a look into removing the leftover binaries of llvm-toolchain-snapshot in impish-proposed/universe - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/llvm-toolchain-snapshot/1:14~++20210924122635+4a57f5d1e1c5-1~exp1
[07:39] <ginggs> ricotz: I can't, let's ping ubuntu-archive for that ^
[07:40] <ricotz> ginggs, ok :)
[07:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: gcc-12-cross (jammy-proposed/primary) [5ubuntu1]
[07:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-12-cross [source] (jammy-proposed) [5ubuntu1]
[08:17] <doko> bah, debian syncs set back the ocaml transition by 60 new uploads ...
[08:37] <sil2100> Hey everyone! Sadly, I need to re-spin all .4 images now :( Those are essential no-change rebuilds for most, but I need to do it as we needed to respin server-live and there was a security update in the meantime
[08:37] <sil2100> So to have consistency re: the snapshot, all images need respinning
[08:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (impish-proposed/main) [2.742.3 => 2.742.4] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[08:41] <sil2100> whoops, accidentally server-live is rebuilding as well, but that's fine, just wasting time ;/
[08:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (focal-proposed/main) [2.664.39 => 2.664.40] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[09:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[09:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[09:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[09:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[09:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[09:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[09:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop amd64 [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[09:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[09:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity amd64 [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223.1)
[09:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity arm64 [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223.1)
[09:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity ppc64el [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223.1)
[09:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity s390x [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223.1)
[09:36] <sil2100> Fingers crossed that those are now final ^
[10:31] <seb128> paride, hey, did you see my messages yesterday about the ssh utah issue? do you think you could work on it or give me pointer or where to check? I don't know the utah setup to know which component is trying to ssh to what instance
[10:32] <paride> seb128, hi, yes saw it, I'm going to look shortly. I'm surprised that we're hitting OpenSSH 8.8 compatibility issues as venonat (the ISO testing host machine) is not that old
[10:33] <paride> however it *may* be related to an old version of paramiko
[10:33] <seb128> paride, maybe it's not the issue and my understanding of the error is wrong :)
[10:33] <paride> seb128, no I think it's correct :)
[10:33] <paride> that's an error message coming from paramiko
[10:34] <paride> venonat runs Bionic, so openssh is new enough, but paramiko can be quite old
[10:36] <seb128> paride, right, there is a bunch of paramiko report about issue with newer keys, e.g https://github.com/paramiko/paramiko/pull/1643
[11:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ceph-iscsi (impish-proposed/universe) [3.4-1ubuntu1 => 3.4-1ubuntu1.1] (no packageset)
[11:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ceph-iscsi (focal-proposed/universe) [3.4-0ubuntu2 => 3.4-0ubuntu2.1] (no packageset)
[11:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted openssl [source] (focal-proposed) [1.1.1f-1ubuntu2.11]
[12:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server arm64+raspi [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[12:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server armhf+raspi [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[12:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server riscv64+unleashed [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[12:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server riscv64+unmatched [Focal 20.04.4] has been updated (20220223)
[12:52] <paride> dbungert, hi, I'm re-testing the images with subiquity 22.02.2, they're looking good but in automation I spotted one thing: one of the test VMs is stuck at "Checking for installer update..."
[12:52] <paride> dbungert, there's nothing bad in the log as far as I can see
[12:53] <paride> dbungert, the answers.yaml has `Refresh: {update: false}`
[12:54] <paride> dbungert, I can manually select "Continue without updating" and finish the install, so this is not blocking installs for human users
[12:54] <paride> dbungert, but it's going to cause a failure in the automated testing
[12:54] <paride> and in general it would be good to understand what's going on
[12:55] <paride> dbungert, is there anything I can check to find out what
[12:55] <paride> what's happening?
[12:56] <paride> sil2100, for the test my testing looks good, I'll submit results to the ISO tracker soon
[12:57] <rbasak> Sorry I forgot about the Focal freeze. I accepted openssl to proposed. Hopefully that won't affect anything.
[12:58] <rbasak> Everything else in the queue seems to be for Focal, so not much else to do on my SRU shift I don't think.
[13:31] <sil2100> paride: \o/
[13:31] <sil2100> paride: thank you!
[13:31] <sil2100> I'll try doing some desktop testing soon on the hardware I have here
[13:31] <sil2100> rbasak: hey! -proposed is fine, so far we didn't hear any issues with openssl so we're in the clear
[15:41] <icey> hey - any idea when we'll start processing Focal SRUs again? or was the temporary freeze just blocking accepting verified SRUs?
[15:44] <rbasak> icey: the point release is scheduled for tomorrow. I'm not familiar with how it's going, but after the release is done then the freeze ends, and that's the current schedule.
[15:44] <icey> rbasak: awesome, thanks!
[15:44] <rbasak> If you really need, we can put things into proposed. It just risks entangling with the release should an update to the same package in the point release turn out to be needed.
[15:44] <icey> no hurry, just wanted an idea of how long we were waiting :)
[15:52] <sil2100> icey: +1 on what rbasak said. Generally focal-updates is frozen - but we seem to be looking good, so who knows, we might be unfreezing tomorrow earlier
[16:20] <paride> dbungert, it happened again on another iso testing job
[16:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cloud-init [source] (focal-proposed) [22.1-1-gb3d9acdd-0ubuntu1~20.04.1]
[16:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cloud-init [source] (impish-proposed) [22.1-1-gb3d9acdd-0ubuntu1~21.10.1]
[16:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cloud-init [source] (impish-proposed) [22.1-1-gb3d9acdd-0ubuntu1~21.10.1]
[16:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected cloud-init [source] (bionic-proposed) [22.1-1-gb3d9acdd-0ubuntu1~18.04.1]
[16:27] <dbungert> paride: is this just a sometimes occurance, but relatively frequent?
[16:29] <paride> dbungert, maybe happening a 20% of times, so relatively frequent
[16:29] <dbungert> ugly for test automation, which is the whole point of the answers system
[16:30] <paride> dbungert, yes. do you have an idea on why this could be happening?
[16:30] <dbungert> not offhand, needs investigation
[16:31] <paride> dbungert, OK, I'll collect some logs for now
[16:31] <dbungert> Thanks!
[16:32] <bdmurray> vorlon: re encfs https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/9vTvqRBVQD/
[16:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed binfmt-support from i386-whitelist in jammy
[16:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed gcc-9 from i386-whitelist in jammy
[16:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed libeatmydata from i386-whitelist in jammy
[16:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed strace from i386-whitelist in jammy
[16:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added fakechroot to i386-whitelist in jammy
[16:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nvidia-prime (focal-proposed/main) [0.8.16~<IP_ADDRESS> => 0.8.16~<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-desktop)
[16:40] <paride> dbungert, https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1962025
[16:40] <sil2100> jawn-smith: hey! You still have your riscv device around, right?
[16:40] <jawn-smith> I do!
[16:41] <sil2100> jawn-smith: xypron reported LP: #1962022 just now, only happening on real devices (non-qemu). Not sure if it's a one-time thing or a real problem, could you also  give it a spin?
[16:41] <jawn-smith> sil2100: on it
[16:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added gcc-9 to i386-whitelist in jammy
[16:55] <sil2100> Thank you!
[16:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (focal-proposed/main) [21.4-0ubuntu1~20.04.1 => 22.1-1-gb3d9acdd-0ubuntu1~20.04.1] (core, edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud)
[17:02] <sil2100> Ok, in the meantime I'll prepublish what we have right now. Prepublishing never hurt anyone so o/
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (impish-proposed/main) [21.4-0ubuntu1~21.10.1 => 22.1-1-gb3d9acdd-0ubuntu1~21.10.1] (core, ubuntu-cloud)
[17:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (bionic-proposed/main) [21.4-0ubuntu1~18.04.1 => 22.1-1-gb3d9acdd-0ubuntu1~18.04.1] (edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server)
[17:20] <jawn-smith> sil2100, xypron: I've failed to recreate locally
[17:48] <paride> seb128, once Focal .4 out I'll see what I can do to make the ISO tests pass again, maybe by installing a newer paramiko from pip while we wait for a newer package in Jammy, to then see if it can be backported to bionic in a PPA
[17:48] <paride> seb128, for today I don't want to move too many things on that machine
[17:51] <paride> today/tomorrow
[18:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kamailio [amd64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [5.5.4-1] (no packageset)
[18:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kamailio [s390x] (jammy-proposed/universe) [5.5.4-1] (no packageset)
[18:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kamailio [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/universe) [5.5.4-1] (no packageset)
[18:22] <dbungert> paride: I'm not sure how to make that happen locally.  If I had a test branch would you be able to run your utah tests against that?
[18:24] <paride> dbungert, if I can build a .snap out of it I should be able to bake it into a .ISO and then test it, so yes
[18:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kamailio [armhf] (jammy-proposed/universe) [5.5.4-1] (no packageset)
[18:26] <seb128> paride, ack, no hurry, thank you
[18:49] <vorlon> doko: it seems you have a number of packages that were added as overrides in update-i386-whitelist instead of either being permanently seeded or being pulled in as dependencies of the seed.  Why are libeatmydata, strace, iniparser, binfmt-support listed here?
[18:50] <vorlon> ginggs, ricotz: llvm-toolchain-snapshot sorted
[18:50] <ginggs> vorlon: thanks!
[19:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kamailio [arm64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [5.5.4-1] (no packageset)
[19:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kamailio [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [5.5.4-1]
[19:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kamailio [armhf] (jammy-proposed) [5.5.4-1]
[19:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kamailio [s390x] (jammy-proposed) [5.5.4-1]
[19:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kamailio [arm64] (jammy-proposed) [5.5.4-1]
[19:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kamailio [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed) [5.5.4-1]
[19:44] <ricotz> vorlon, thanks, although those NBS binaries are still there, looking at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/impish-proposed/universe/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[19:45] <ricotz> 1:14~++20210924122635+4a57f5d1e1c5-1~exp1
[19:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: gnome-bluetooth3 (jammy-proposed/primary) [42~beta.2-0ubuntu1]
[19:46] <ricotz> ah, there was just an update cycle, I should have been more patient
[19:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gnome-bluetooth [amd64] (jammy-proposed/main) [3.34.5-5ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[20:40] <doko> vorlon: binfmt-support needed for openjdk, strace needed by binfmt-support. libeatmydata for creating a i386 chroot. where should these be seeded?
[20:50] <holmanb> sil2100: cloud-init SRU uploads have been queued for 22.1 releases. Can you please review so we can get them into proposed?
[21:05] <vorlon> doko: why do they need to be manually seeded instead of being pulled in by the seeds as deps / build-deps?
[21:21] <vorlon> doko: and libeatmydata is not a requirement for chroot creation, but if you think it's something we should support, then it should be in the seed
[21:58] <dbungert> ubuntu-archive: LP: #1962050 there is a set of 4 perl packages libobject-pad-slotattr-X-perl that all have been renamed upstream. These are blocking perl 5.34. Debian does not yet have the renamed packages but I expect they will (debbug 1005016). While I have a set of debdiffs that could resolve this, given that none of these perl packages have reverse depends maybe we just remove them.
[21:59] <dbungert> Thoughts?
[22:33] <vorlon> dbungert: removal is ok with me
[22:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: gnome-console (jammy-proposed/primary) [42~beta-1~ubuntu1]
[23:00] <vorlon> ahasenack: a heads-up that libnfsidmap-dev is used by sssd which is built on i386; so this is going to need a bit of fiddling before we actually remove libnfsidmap source
[23:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: r-cran-startupmsg [amd64] (jammy-proposed/none) [0.9.6-1] (no packageset)
[23:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: qtkeychain [amd64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.13.2-2] (kubuntu)
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qtkeychain [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [0.13.2-2]
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-startupmsg [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [0.9.6-1]
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[23:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: qtkeychain [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed/universe) [0.13.2-2] (kubuntu)
[23:36] <dbungert> vorlon: I have updated LP: #1962050 to request the removal of these packages, if you would.