[00:08] <doctormo> wb cjohnston
[00:09] <cjohnston> ty
[00:16] <cjohnston> pleia2: are we doing open week or user days tomorrow?
[00:26] <_marx_> cjohnston: i thought it was uds!
[00:26]  * cjohnston throws stuff at NC hoping to hit _marx_
[00:26] <cjohnston> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/Introduction/cj  <--my edits to pleia2's work
[00:26] <cjohnston> thougths?
[00:26]  * _marx_ ducks
[00:26]  * cjohnston goes to get another beer
[00:27] <Pendulum> hiya
[00:28] <cjohnston> Pendulum:
[00:28] <cjohnston> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/Introduction/cj  <--my edits to pleia2's work
[00:28] <cjohnston> comments, changes, tell me it sucks, something please
[00:29] <cjohnston> you too _marx_
[00:29] <Pendulum> looks good
[00:29] <Pendulum> anyone else have no idea what to say about themselves?
[00:30] <cjohnston> my name is Pendulum and im the queen of the world
[00:30]  * _marx_ probably said too much took some out just now
[00:30] <cjohnston> you had better come up with something... or ill come up with something.. i work in publishing specializing in fantasy
[00:30] <Pendulum> :P
[00:31] <Pendulum> I will say something, just not sure what
[00:31] <_marx_> looks good cj and nice email Pendulum
[00:32]  * _marx_ worried about having enough content
[00:32] <_marx_> just don't know the level of user to expect
[00:32] <Pendulum> _marx_: you will be fine! I'm sure!
[00:34] <_marx_> i bought "special" coffee, locally roasted for tomorrow
[00:35] <Pendulum> hah
[00:35] <_marx_> light roast, more caffeine
[00:35] <Pendulum> I am about to start drinking now. then bed at 9 theoretically and then up at 6 tomorrow morning :)
[00:35] <Pendulum> and then more drinking after things are over tomorrow night ;)
[00:36] <cjohnston> agreed Pendulum
[00:36] <cjohnston> im already drinking tonight
[00:36] <cjohnston> Pendulum: _marx_ how do yall want to do the intro... do you want to get to type a part?
[00:37] <cjohnston> or do you want me to just tell you that you are typing a part?
[00:37] <cjohnston> or?
[00:37] <_marx_> in -classroom
[00:37] <cjohnston> yes
[00:37] <cjohnston> at 1200
[00:37] <_marx_> sinbot google coffee
[00:37] <Pendulum> however other people want to do it is fine, so if you want me to type a part, tell me :P
[00:38] <_marx_> yeah
[00:38] <Pendulum> oh, shoot, I hope I have milk for tea tomorrow!
[00:38] <_marx_> i can type a bit or not
[00:38] <Pendulum> (I don't drink coffee)
[00:38] <_marx_> alarm is set for 5:30
[00:39] <_marx_> body clock is _not trained
[00:39] <Pendulum> 5:30 is my normal awake time
[00:39] <_marx_> used to be mine
[00:39] <Pendulum> I may be decadent and reset it for 6 for tomorrow ;)
[00:40] <cjohnston> i keep going back and forth for what time i want to get up
[00:40]  * cjohnston hopes pleia2 isnt gone for the night
[00:43] <_marx_> one thing i've learned from job interviews is to not be afraid to say "i don't know"
[00:51] <Pendulum> cjohnston: see, I told you we'd be drinking and having a party tonight ;)
[00:51] <cjohnston> ya cause im not in school
[00:53] <_marx_> cjohnston: how many hours of school, credit hours i mean
[00:54] <cjohnston> 0
[00:54] <cjohnston> i dropped out
[00:54] <Pendulum> cjohnston: aww :(
[00:54] <_marx_> oh! okay
[00:54] <cjohnston> im not the only one
[00:55] <cjohnston> there are already a couple others who have
[00:55] <_marx_> i've found even a 3 credit hour course one night a week difficult to do while working
[00:56] <Pendulum> *nods*
[00:56] <Pendulum> tbh, I suspect that's not uncommon in the program you're in
[00:56] <Pendulum> and better to get out early than 6 months in
[00:56] <cjohnston> yup
[00:56] <cjohnston> the class starts with 60... about 20-25 finish it
[00:57] <_marx_> serious attrition rate
[00:57] <cjohnston> uh huh
[00:59] <_marx_> i'd like to find some reasonably priced lpi course/test packages
[00:59] <cjohnston> me too _marx_
[01:00] <_marx_> the test is not too bad, but i'd pay for some good guaranteed training
[01:00] <cjohnston> 2k
[01:00] <cjohnston> lol
[01:01] <_marx_> more than that for redhat
[01:01] <cjohnston> ouch
[01:01] <cjohnston> i really would like to do it
[01:01] <cjohnston> but without some help, i cant support the 2k cost...
[01:01] <cjohnston> or cant justify it
[01:01] <_marx_> me either
[01:02] <_marx_> the redhat online / virtual training /w/test I had a year ago was very good
[01:03] <_marx_> good teacher, good environment: I didn't pay for it ;)
[01:04] <cjohnston> thats always a good thing
[01:06] <_marx_> dude that paid for it still hasn't provided work, but he has invested so who knows
[01:09] <Pendulum> hmm... i should eat something to go with my drink
[01:09] <cjohnston> nah
[01:09] <_marx_> pizza is  on the way
[01:10] <Pendulum> i think it will be the 2nd half of what I ordered last night (I'm not safe to cook so I depend on delivery and microwavable food, sadly :( )
[01:12] <_marx_> cjohnston: can you cook?
[01:13] <cjohnston> thats what they tell me
[01:13]  * _marx_ can do prep
[01:13] <Pendulum> I could theoretically cook if someone was there to supervise and lift things... I used to be able to cook :(
[01:13] <cjohnston> :-(
[01:13] <_marx_> oh :-(
[01:14]  * _marx_ was going into smart aleck mode
[01:14] <Pendulum> I stopped cooking after the 2nd instance in a month of my leaving the (gas) oven on overnight despite having checked repeatedly that it was off and my brain somehow registering that it was when it wasn't
[01:14] <cjohnston> :-(
[01:15] <_marx_> hum, i've done that w/an electric oven
[01:18] <Pendulum> _marx_: you don't have a condition that causes mental and physical fatigue to extreme levels, though. I figured it was a sign.
[01:20] <_marx_> right Pendulum mine is just an old brain
[01:22] <Pendulum> hah :P
[01:22]  * _marx_ slides Pendulum a slice of pizza
[01:23] <Pendulum> ta :)
[01:23] <Pendulum> although I'm not eating badly
[01:23] <Pendulum> (leftovers from last night are turkey and stuffing and mash)
[01:23] <Pendulum> just not what I wanted to have for dinner
[01:27] <_marx_> what's mash? oh taters mashed up ;) sounds good
[01:28] <Pendulum> mash = mashed potatoes :)
[01:28] <_marx_> real southern speak it's like "mashd'taters" all one word
[01:29] <Pendulum> heh
[01:29] <_marx_> no "p" sound at all
[02:15] <cjohnston> do be do
[02:16] <cjohnston> Pendulum: you in bed yet?
[02:17] <Pendulum> no
[02:17] <Pendulum> still p
[02:17] <Pendulum> *up
[02:17] <cjohnston> you said you were gonna go to bed at 9!
[02:19]  * _marx_ out
[02:21] <Pendulum> i failed
[02:22] <cjohnston> lol
[02:22] <cjohnston> g'nite _marx_
[02:22] <cjohnston> Pendulum: i cant find nagendra's intro
[02:23] <cjohnston> nm
[02:23] <cjohnston> got it
[02:27] <nigel_nb> pleia2, ping
[02:27] <pleia2> nigel_nb: hey
[02:28] <nigel_nb> I didn't quite understand the talk of logo attribution
[02:28] <pleia2> you can license images
[02:29] <pleia2> akgraner was asking if you required attribution - which means people have to say the image was made by you and link to the license each time they use your image
[02:29] <pleia2> (doctormo will come beat me up soon for this crude description)
[02:29] <nigel_nb> oh I didn't
[02:30] <pleia2> ok :)
[02:30] <pleia2> so it's just "creative commons" then
[02:30] <nigel_nb> which is why I made it into CC-SA
[02:30] <pleia2> oh good
[02:30] <nigel_nb> I think I did
[02:30] <nigel_nb> anyway, if it went into ubuntu wiki, its automatically GPL'd
[02:31] <pleia2> no, gpl requires you to ship a copy of the license with each thing
[02:31] <nigel_nb> ugh!
[02:31] <pleia2> I don't know that the wiki has a formal license at this point, I know it's something on the community council agenda
[02:31] <nigel_nb> Attribution-ShareAlike Creative Commons falls under GPL?
[02:31] <pleia2> no
[02:31] <pleia2> gpl is something different
[02:31] <pleia2> gpl is *more* restrictive
[02:32] <pleia2> since it's viral
[02:32] <nigel_nb> I know, one of the CC license is GPL friendly, I forget which
[02:32] <nigel_nb> technically, the license ships with the logo.  The logo's original source is my flickr page
[02:32] <nigel_nb> which has a license
[02:33] <cjohnston> pleia2: how does this look for the topic: /topic Ubuntu Classroom || Ubuntu User Days | Session: Switching to Ubuntu & Installation ~~ Instructor: Nagendra || User Days Survey: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WQWHJQY
[02:34] <pleia2> s/~~ Instructor:/presented by
[02:34] <cjohnston> okie
[02:37] <cjohnston> pleia2: do we want to let the instructors introduce themselves, or do we wnat to introduce them?
[02:37] <cjohnston> Pendulum: you can chime in too
[02:37] <pleia2> I think we should do it
[02:37] <cjohnston> ok..
[02:37] <pleia2> speaking of intros, who is doing the one for the day? :)
[02:37] <cjohnston> im editing the intros they submited to make it third person
[02:38] <cjohnston> i havent gotten that far yet
[02:38] <cjohnston> lol
[02:38] <pleia2> ok
[02:38] <cjohnston> when you get a chance can you look at my edits?
[02:38] <cjohnston> ;-)
[02:38] <pleia2> no, just finished replacing my firewall server
[02:38] <pleia2> doing some fixes on my network now, I'll have a look soon :)
[02:38] <cjohnston> issues at the house?
[02:38]  * cjohnston doesnt have a firewall server :-(
[02:39]  * cjohnston is also happy that starcraftman submitted a third person intro!
[02:39] <cjohnston> hehe
[02:39] <pleia2> nah, I just have too many servers, need to consolidate them for the move
[02:39] <pleia2> having an sparc ultra10 was cool and fun, but now it's just silly to have the add'l machine
[02:39] <cjohnston> send it to me
[02:39] <pleia2> hehe
[02:40] <pleia2> I am keeping it actually, just had to retire it from daily use
[02:40] <cjohnston> lol
[02:40] <nigel_nb> pleia2, few years down the line you can start a museum
[02:40]  * starcraftman waves hello!
[02:41] <starcraftman> cjohnston: I try to be thoughtful :)
[02:41] <pleia2> I forgot something with this migration, my voip phone isn't working
[02:41] <cjohnston> i dont have your voip number, so it doesnt matter to me :-P
[02:41] <cjohnston> jk
[02:41] <nigel_nb> dead? or something you did wrong?
[02:41] <starcraftman> cjohnston: I wanna make sure I got this right, I'm at 1500 UTC.... that's 1000 EST right?
[02:41]  * starcraftman hates timezones.
[02:42] <pleia2> it's my work phone
[02:42] <cjohnston> ya
[02:42] <cjohnston> but you can get up with me if you like
[02:42] <pleia2> I'll nag my boss to help debug on monday (I warned him I was doing this this weekend)
[02:42] <cjohnston> starcraftman: ^^
[02:43] <starcraftman> cjohnston: hehe, 0700 ain't that bad. I use to wake up at 5:30 for years.
[02:43]  * nigel_nb remembers that his session is still not ready
[02:43] <cjohnston> uh oh nigel_nb
[02:44] <nigel_nb> pleia2, akgraner_ ultimately posted without logo :P
[02:44] <cjohnston> starcraftman: with my schdule, one day im up at 530, the next day 7, then the third day i can sleep in
[02:44] <cjohnston> so i cant get used to it
[02:44] <starcraftman> oh and nigel_nb I wanted to run a section of my talk by ya, I'm talking bout lp just a lil bit, I'm sure you'll cover it more.
[02:44] <nigel_nb> starcraftman, answers and bugs, I cover in detail
[02:45] <nigel_nb> starcraftman, you were devoting 5 mins each so i thought it would be basic..
[02:46] <starcraftman> nigel_nb: aye, just kinda mention them in passing as last stop for getting help. Good that your covering it, I not largest LP user. I'll be sitting in on some sessions like yours.
[02:47] <nigel_nb> starcraftman, hehe.. best part of bug reporting.  we suggest people not to use the web interface to actually do the first part
[02:48] <nigel_nb> pleia2, I dont think setting r+ is a good idea
[02:48] <nigel_nb> a lot of people will be testing logging in all, esp frm lernid
[02:48] <Pendulum> nigel_nb: she was just doing it overnight
[02:48] <pleia2> they can still join
[02:49] <pleia2> nhandler is turning it off in a few hours
[02:49] <nhandler> nigel_nb: +r wasn't set. +R was set
[02:49]  * nigel_nb isn't well educated on channel flags
[02:49] <nigel_nb> nhandler, what's the diff b/w r+ and R+?
[02:49] <nhandler> nigel_nb: +R prevents unidentified people from talking. They can still join
[02:50] <nigel_nb> and the small r?
[02:50] <nhandler> nigel_nb: You might like http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[02:50] <nhandler> nigel_nb: +r prevents unidentified people from joining the channel
[02:50] <nigel_nb> oooh
[02:52] <Pendulum> pleia2: and we're setting +m for -classroom after the first session anyway, right?
[02:52] <pleia2> Pendulum: yeah
[02:52] <nhandler> Pendulum: I would think that would depend on what the session leader would want
[02:52] <cjohnston> hey DiegoTc
[02:53] <DiegoTc> hi cjohnston
[02:53] <pleia2> nhandler: the instructor can ask us to remove the mode if they want, but by default we're keeping the channel +m for the day
[02:53] <pleia2> just like we did for UOW
[02:54] <DiegoTc> cjohnston, thanks for cheers in the board meeting :D
[02:54] <cjohnston> ;-)
[02:54] <cjohnston> of course
[02:56] <pleia2> cjohnston: is there a diff as to what you added?
[02:56] <pleia2> I don't remember what I wrote :)
[02:56] <cjohnston> lol
[02:56] <cjohnston> yours is still at the same page
[02:56] <cjohnston> hehe
[02:57] <cjohnston> ill post it over there so you have a diff
[02:57] <starcraftman> noob question: what's +m do?
[02:57] <pleia2> yeah, I'm sure whatever you put in was fine
[02:57] <cjohnston> mute
[02:57] <pleia2> what are we supposed to say when we introduce ourselves?
[02:57] <starcraftman> ah, I c.
[02:57] <nhandler> starcraftman: It moderates the channel so only voiced users and ops can talk
[02:57]  * starcraftman is still an IRC noob after all this time.
[02:57] <starcraftman> hehe]
[02:58] <pleia2> hehe
[02:58] <nigel_nb> starcraftman, well, me too!
[02:58] <pleia2> hi, I'm pleia2, I like cats
[02:58] <nigel_nb> pleia2, and star wars
[02:58] <pleia2> oh yes, I do quite like star wars
[02:58] <pleia2> and ubuntu!
[02:59] <pleia2> ok, I'll just say I'm a UCLP person
[02:59] <cjohnston> pleia2: i changed the page you made.. so now there should be a diff for you
[02:59] <nigel_nb> nhandler, sweet, my loco didnt have topic protection, so I put in the User Days announcement too!
[02:59] <nhandler> :)
[02:59] <pleia2> cjohnston: thanks :)
[02:59] <nigel_nb> spamming away
[03:00] <cjohnston> lol nigel_nb
[03:00] <nigel_nb> cjohnston, I'm wondering whether to do an hourly countdown on identi.ca
[03:01] <pleia2> cjohnston: looks good!
[03:01] <cjohnston> lol nigel_nb
[03:01] <nhandler> nigel_nb: You could do that in cron ;)
[03:02] <nigel_nb> nhandler, i shouldn't get kicked
[03:02] <nigel_nb> nhandler, I can? in cron? post to identi.ca from command-line?
[03:03] <nigel_nb> cjohnston, okay, UBT topic changed too ;)
[03:04] <nhandler> nigel_nb: /usr/bin/curl -u YOURNAME:YOURPASSWORD -d status="YOUR MESSAGE" http://identi.ca/api/statuses/update.xml
[03:04]  * nigel_nb tries it out
[03:06]  * starcraftman is glad he's an IRC noob with nigel_nb
[03:06] <starcraftman> :)
[03:06] <nigel_nb> :)
[03:06] <starcraftman> hehe, belated, supporting in beginners.
[03:06] <nigel_nb> this command line thingy is fun!
[03:11] <cjohnston> i think i have the intros ready
[03:11] <pleia2> \o/
[03:11] <cjohnston> not our intros
[03:11] <cjohnston> lo
[03:11] <cjohnston> lol
[03:15]  * DiegoTc wants to have the intros ready for the USD in spanish :(
[03:15] <DiegoTc> i have to wake up early tomorrow
[03:15] <nigel_nb> cjohnston, you have mine right?
[03:15] <cjohnston> me too
[03:15] <cjohnston> lol
[03:15] <cjohnston> nigel_nb: ya i think so
[03:18] <cjohnston> ok.. i got out intro sorted out for the 1200 slot...
[03:18] <cjohnston> :-)
[03:18]  * cjohnston wanted to introduce ya'll and since noone had a preference I decided that :-P lol
[03:20] <pleia2> great job with this cjohnston :)
[03:20] <cjohnston> ty
[03:21] <cjohnston> im trying to think of any last minute things that need to be done
[03:21] <pleia2> sleep?
[03:21] <pleia2> :)
[03:21] <cjohnston> i know as soon as i go lay down ill remember something and then have to get up to come fix it so i can sleep
[03:21] <pleia2> hehe
[03:22] <cjohnston> i slept so bad wednesday night debating what to do with school
[03:22] <cjohnston> ive slept like a baby since then
[03:22] <cjohnston> lol
[03:23] <nigel_nb> cjohnston, quit school?
[03:23] <cjohnston> uh huh
[03:24] <cjohnston> i spoke with someone today.. she said most people failed the two quizzes yesterday
[03:24] <nigel_nb> better now that after devoting months and crashing
[03:24] <cjohnston> thats why i did it
[03:26] <Pendulum> okay, i'm going to bed for real. catch y'all in a few hours.
[03:26] <pleia2> night pen :)
[03:27] <cjohnston> G'nite Pendulum
[03:28] <cjohnston> one last blog for planet
[03:29] <cjohnston> I think I'm out.. goodnight
[03:30] <pleia2> night cjohnston :)
[03:30] <nigel_nb> okay, I'll off soon too
[03:30] <pleia2> later nigel_nb :)
[03:30] <nigel_nb> dont sleep in anyone
[03:30] <pleia2> bah, ya'll will cover for me
[03:30] <nigel_nb> pleia2, I suggest you stop tinkering with the hardware, or you'll get up late ;)
[03:31] <pleia2> well I have to at least clean up :) this place is a mess of dust and wires nwo
[03:31] <pleia2> now
[03:34] <nigel_nb> pleia2, I'm off, good night.
[03:34] <pleia2> night :)
[03:50] <DiegoTc> pleia2, are you bussy right now?
[03:53] <pleia2> DiegoTc: no, what's up?
[03:56]  * pleia2 should go to bed soon though
[03:57] <DiegoTc> pleia2, thanks
[03:57] <DiegoTc> i ask to nhandler in beginners channel
[03:57] <DiegoTc> it is for adding my feedback to the planet
[03:58] <pleia2> having trouble?
[03:58] <pleia2> oh, ssh key
[03:58] <DiegoTc> nop
[03:59] <DiegoTc> adding the feedback
[03:59] <DiegoTc> the last step
[04:00] <pleia2> I don't understand :\
[04:01] <DiegoTc> pleia2,  to this step (Once you've done that, add a stanza like the following to the end of the config.ini file)
[04:01] <pleia2> ok
[04:01] <pleia2> what's the trouble?
[04:02] <pleia2> trying to figure out what your feed url is?
[04:03] <nigel_nb> DiegoTc, where exactly are you stuck?
[04:03] <pleia2> nigel_nb: hey, I thought you left :)
[04:03] <nigel_nb> pleia2, naah, applying for volunteer on freenode ;)
[04:04] <pleia2> hehe
[04:04] <nigel_nb> pleia2, I thought u were cleaning up?
[04:04] <pleia2> done now, getting ready for bed :)
[04:06] <DiegoTc> nigel_nb, well don't know actually
[04:06] <DiegoTc> i finish to add my name in the config.ini file:
[04:06] <nigel_nb> you pulled the branch?
[04:06] <DiegoTc> and make this $ bzr diff
[04:06] <DiegoTc> $ bzr commit -m "Added yourusername to Planet Ubuntu"
[04:07] <nigel_nb> did u add name, feed, and all?
[04:07] <DiegoTc> so i think i have to wait
[04:07] <nigel_nb> ohh you pushed the diff?
[04:07] <pleia2> the planet only updates a few times an hour
[04:07] <DiegoTc> well the feed nhandler told me to add this one http://blog.diegoturcios.net16.net/?cat=72&feed=atom
[04:07] <DiegoTc> but i am wondering
[04:07] <DiegoTc> what i have to do
[04:08] <pleia2> it updated 20 minutes ago
[04:08] <DiegoTc> so the post i wrote appears on the planet
[04:08] <pleia2> did you do this more than 20 minutes ago?
[04:08] <DiegoTc> nop
[04:08] <DiegoTc> some 3 minutes ago
[04:08] <pleia2> oh, you just have to wait :)
[04:09] <pleia2> it only updates each time the cron job runs on the planet itself
[04:09] <DiegoTc> okay
[04:09] <pleia2> I think it runs every half hour or so
[04:09] <DiegoTc> but lets said if i want to post this post on the planet http://blog.diegoturcios.net16.net/?p=360
[04:10] <nigel_nb> DiegoTc, delete post and psot again ;)
[04:10] <pleia2> that's in category 72, so it should be fine
[04:11] <DiegoTc> i only have to choose the "ubuntu-planet" category  si it will work
[04:11] <DiegoTc> pleia2, how do you know the category?
[04:11] <pleia2> DiegoTc: you gave the link above :)
[04:11] <pleia2> http://blog.diegoturcios.net16.net/?cat=72&feed=atom <--- cat 72
[04:12] <pleia2> which is ubuntu-planet
[04:12] <pleia2> on your blog
[04:12] <pleia2> I need to go sleepy
[04:12] <pleia2> good night folks :)
[04:12] <DiegoTc> hh
[04:12] <DiegoTc> oh
[04:12] <DiegoTc> thanks
[04:12] <DiegoTc> Good Night
[04:12] <nigel_nb> pleia2, night
[04:17] <duanedesign> congratulations DiegoTc on becoming an Ubuntu Member
[04:37] <mhall119> cjohnston, still awake?
[04:38] <nigel_nb> I doubht mhall119, looking for somethin?
[04:38] <mhall119> was going to get his input on my outline
[04:38] <nigel_nb> everyone's asleep to be up early for the user day
[04:39] <mhall119> yeah, me too, I'm about to head to bed actually
[04:39] <mhall119> was prepping food for a party tomorrow
[04:39] <mhall119> There's going to be a couple dozen people at my house
[04:39] <mhall119> while I'm doing my class
[04:40] <nigel_nb> wow!
[04:40] <mhall119> yeah, it's gonna be fun
[04:41] <mhall119> they're all Florida LoCo guys/gals/kids, so it'll be a good time
[04:41] <mhall119> we're gonna project #ubuntu-classroom somewhere we can all watch
[04:42] <nigel_nb> you guys are awesome! why not get everyone online too?
[04:43] <mhall119> I'm sure they will be
[04:43] <mhall119> but they'll also be working
[04:43] <mhall119> installing Ubuntu on about 50 computes
[04:44] <mhall119> okay, it's pushing on midnight, I can still get 5 hours of sleep, see you tomorrow nigel_nb
[04:44] <nigel_nb> wow! wow! wow!
[04:44] <nigel_nb> cya
[04:49] <DiegoTc> duanedesign, thanks
[04:49] <duanedesign> DiegoTc: blog looks good too. Did you get it added to ubuntu Planet?
[04:50] <DiegoTc> duanedesign, my name appers on the feed
[04:52] <DiegoTc> duanedesign,  but no the post
[09:53] <nigel_nb> AlanBell, ping
[10:37] <cjohnston> uggh
[10:38] <nigel_nb> what?
[10:39] <nigel_nb> cjohnston, morning... awake yet?
[10:39] <cjohnston> just got up
[10:40] <nigel_nb> cjohnston, I didn't sleep :(
[10:41] <cjohnston> :-(
[10:41] <cjohnston> What time is it?
[10:41] <nigel_nb> cjohnston, we need to tell people to ignore join parts and to ignore ctcp versions
[10:41] <nigel_nb> its10:41 UTC
[10:41] <cjohnston> That's on the user days page
[10:41] <cjohnston> you
[10:41] <cjohnston> yoour
[10:41] <cjohnston> your
[10:42] <cjohnston> uggh.... i just fired up one of my machines and its making a horrid noise
[10:42] <nigel_nb> its 5 am?
[10:43] <cjohnston> 542
[10:43] <cjohnston> Where you are
[10:43] <cjohnston> ?
[10:43] <cjohnston> coffee is brewing
[10:43] <_marx_> same here
[10:43] <nigel_nb> naah, 4:15 for me
[10:43] <nigel_nb> pm though
[10:44] <cjohnston> mornin mark
[10:49] <nigel_nb> cjohnston, I vote that we mention the ignore command in the beginning
[10:53] <cjohnston> ok
[10:59] <cjohnston> nigel_nb _marx_ have you two seen the introduction we are giving?
[10:59] <cjohnston> and your parts of it?
[10:59] <nigel_nb> um, I have to introduce myself right?
[10:59] <cjohnston> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/Introduction
[11:00] <cjohnston> ill say your name, and then you introduce yourslef
[11:00] <nigel_nb> oh cool
[11:02] <Pendulum> morning
[11:02] <nigel_nb> morning Pendulum :)
[11:03] <nigel_nb> cjohnston, do I need to introduce myself in the beginning?
[11:04] <nigel_nb> cjohnston, and dont forget to mention about the spam... DO NOT CLICK
[11:06] <Pendulum> actually, we might want to come up with a line about that quickly that can be given at the beginning of each class
[11:06] <nigel_nb> true
[11:06] <nigel_nb> instructions to ignore in webchat?
[11:07]  * nigel_nb goes to edit wiki
[11:07] <_marx_> let's hope we don't see the netsplit craziness
[11:07] <nigel_nb> that would be disastorous indeed
[11:07] <Pendulum> something like "Unfortunately freenode, the IRC network we use, has been hit hard recently with an influx of java spam. For more information please see http://blog.freenode.net/2010/01/javascript-spam/ . Do not click other links that say they are more information about the spam."
[11:08] <AlanBell> nigel_nb: pont
[11:08] <Pendulum> s/java/javascript
[11:08] <AlanBell> nigel_nb: pong
[11:08] <nigel_nb> AlanBell, wanted to know about how to set irc client to ignore ctcp msgs during user days
[11:08] <nigel_nb> AlanBell, all good, found it :)
[11:09] <AlanBell>  /window level -CTCP
[11:09] <AlanBell> in irssi
[11:09] <nigel_nb> I found that big /ignore thingy from UOW
[11:10] <cjohnston> hey Pendulum
[11:10] <cjohnston> ugh
[11:10] <cjohnston> both kids just got up
[11:10] <Pendulum> you can also use /umode +C
[11:10] <Pendulum> cjohnston: your kids are early risers
[11:10] <AlanBell> Pendulum: not sure that works without +m and I couldn't get that to work
[11:10] <cjohnston> nigel_nb: yes.. you will introduce yourself during the intro hour... _marx_ you too.... so you can both use the intro you already wrote, and we can do a more brief intro later
[11:11] <nigel_nb> okay
[11:12] <cjohnston> Pendulum: yes they do... but they are at school normally before 7
[11:12] <nigel_nb> cjohnston, we did a mistake, we should have had one slide with the user day logo ;)
[11:12] <nigel_nb> lol, next time ;(
[11:12] <cjohnston> it pulls up the wiki page
[11:13] <nigel_nb> I know, but slides are cooler
[11:13] <cjohnston> are you on lernid?
[11:13] <nigel_nb> yes
[11:13] <cjohnston> lol
[11:13] <AlanBell> the ctcp spam is going to be a real pain I think
[11:13] <cjohnston> uggh
[11:13] <nigel_nb> and we could have used it during our session
[11:13] <nigel_nb> AlanBell, I'm afraid of more people clicking it :(
[11:13] <nigel_nb> and causing more spam and k-lining
[11:13] <AlanBell> yes
[11:14] <AlanBell> when everyone is muted in -classroom will that stop it there?
[11:14] <Pendulum> yes
[11:14] <nigel_nb> I hope
[11:14] <Pendulum> at least it'll stop them from pasting links
[11:14] <cjohnston> dont know AlanBell
[11:15] <AlanBell> probably best to do that sooner rather than later
[11:15] <cjohnston> ?
[11:15] <AlanBell> people will be arriving soon
[11:15] <cjohnston> the first hour is interactive
[11:15] <Pendulum> people are arriving
[11:15] <AlanBell> ah, ok interactive in -classroom
[11:16] <cjohnston> yes
[11:16] <cjohnston> for the first hour
[11:16] <cjohnston> after that it will be muted
[11:16] <nigel_nb> cjohnston, Pendulum, _marx_ : http://pastebin.com/m6c3ee53f
[11:16]  * starcraftman waves morning.
[11:16] <nigel_nb> its the warning not to click on links
[11:16] <cjohnston> hey bud
[11:17] <cjohnston> k
[11:17] <cjohnston> thanks
[11:17] <starcraftman> mmmm, I want more sleep but it doesn't work putting head on pillow :(
[11:17] <AlanBell> s/infect/infected/
[11:17] <cjohnston> i was upset when my alarm started going off
[11:18] <cjohnston> uggh... my third system is giving me hastles this mornin
[11:18] <nigel_nb> http://pastebin.com/m1843ea85 corrected
[11:18]  * _marx_ was already awake when his went off
[11:18] <cjohnston> lol _marx_
[11:18] <cjohnston> that excited?
[11:18] <_marx_> nah wife went to work early
[11:19] <_marx_> should'a moved the coffee pot in here
[11:19] <cjohnston> lol
[11:19] <cjohnston> Pendulum: _marx_ nigel_nb you all see your part for the intro hour correct?
[11:19] <nigel_nb> apparently mhall has a whole lot planned for the day
[11:20] <nigel_nb> yes
[11:20] <cjohnston> yes
[11:20] <cjohnston> and he is trying to get me to come down to his house
[11:20] <nigel_nb> hehe
[11:20] <cjohnston> I told him id have to be there at 6am
[11:20] <cjohnston> he changed his mind
[11:20] <nigel_nb> hahaaha
[11:20] <_marx_> cjohnston: yes
[11:20] <cjohnston> although I got them to get a projector and UUD will be projected on a screen
[11:21] <nigel_nb> popey, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-learning/2010-January/000108.html
[11:21] <nigel_nb> popey, announcement ^^
[11:22] <nigel_nb> cjohnston, relax.  Lernid is an in-testing software
[11:22] <nigel_nb> nhandler, ping
[11:22] <cjohnston> nigel_nb: its supposted to be production for next week tho
[11:24] <_marx_> cjohnston: where's the wiki w/bios
[11:24] <cjohnston> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/01232010/intro
[11:25] <_marx_> ah the date is what i missed
[11:27] <cjohnston> not effecient addresses.. but i didnt think about everyone needing access when i did it
[11:27] <cjohnston> lol
[11:27] <cjohnston> oh well
[11:28] <popey> create a new page and redirect it?
[11:30] <cjohnston> popey: no making sense today!
[11:33]  * pleia2 waves
[11:33] <AlanBell> major problem!
[11:33] <_marx_> moanin' pleia2
[11:34] <Pendulum> hiya pleia2
[11:34] <AlanBell> if someone pastes in a spam link in -classroom all the lernid users will automatically open the link and get k-lined
[11:34] <_marx_> ouch
[11:34] <AlanBell> please can we mute -classroom and do the interactive stuff in -chat
[11:35] <AlanBell> I am hoping ctcp spam links won't affect lernid
[11:35] <AlanBell> but some of the spam is people joining channels and pasting links
[11:36] <AlanBell> cjohnston ^^
[11:36] <pleia2> it's going to be +m during the sessions anyway
[11:36] <pleia2> but we can't do it until after the intro
[11:36] <pleia2> since that
[11:36] <AlanBell> apparently the first session is interactive in -classroom
[11:36] <pleia2> yes
[11:37] <pleia2> we can't really change that now :)
[11:37] <cjohnston> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WQWHJQY
[11:37] <cjohnston> any last questions to add?
[11:37] <pleia2> AlanBell: please don't tell people not to use it :(
[11:37] <pleia2> the spam stopped like 40 minutes ago
[11:38] <_marx_> cjohnston: anything for folks using lernid
[11:38]  * pleia2 sighs
[11:38] <AlanBell> sorry, but the spam has been on and off for days
[11:39] <cjohnston> dunno
[11:39] <AlanBell> the user days thing is a tempting target and I really don't want it to start badly
[11:40] <pleia2> fine, we'll +m except when we are interactive
[11:40] <pleia2> but please stop telling people not to use it
[11:40] <AlanBell> I want people to use it
[11:40] <pleia2> you just told them not to
[11:40] <pleia2> it's confusing
[11:40] <AlanBell> when not muted
[11:40] <pleia2> people are using lernid, they don't know what mute is
[11:40] <pleia2> they can't tell when it's being use
[11:40] <pleia2> d
[11:41] <AlanBell> I think most of the lernid users do know what muted means
[11:42] <AlanBell> I really think it would be best to mute the channel and have the interactive session in -classroom-chat
[11:42] <Pendulum> ooh, just thought of something should we change the QUESTION: format to QUESTION, ?
[11:42] <Pendulum> since it's now been discovered that : breaks lernid (sorta)
[11:42] <pleia2> Pendulum: yeah, that seems reasonable
[11:43] <nigelbabu> please DO NOT use : after nick completion, it causes error in lernid
[11:44] <pleia2> Pendulum, cjohnston updated the intro to be QUESTION w/o the :
[11:45] <_marx_> T -15
[11:45] <Pendulum> btw, who is introducing nagendra?
[11:45] <Pendulum> everyone else we can figure out when they show up, but he should be showing up in the midding of *our* session so should probably be sorted now ;)
[11:46] <_marx_> nigelbabu, testing nick tab completion
[11:46] <nigelbabu> ah
[11:46] <cjohnston> ty pleia2
[11:46] <pleia2> Pendulum: I guess we just do a basic "this is nagendra with a class about $foo"
[11:46] <pleia2> rather than a real intro :\
[11:47] <nigelbabu> pleia2, then we can do who is nagendra
[11:47] <pleia2> hm?
[11:47] <nigelbabu> like we say this is foo who is doing a class about foo
[11:48] <nigelbabu> foo is blah blah blah
[11:48] <nigelbabu> then hand over
[11:48] <pleia2> oh I misread
[11:49] <nigelbabu> pleia2, wats normal membership for UOW?
[11:49] <pleia2> not sure, so many people lurk in -classroom that it's a bit hard to tell
[11:49] <pleia2> 200ish?
[11:49] <nigelbabu> hm, we're getting there
[11:50] <Pendulum> pleia2: no, I mean, which one of us is saying that?
[11:50] <pleia2> should we update _marx_'s section about lernid to make clear that it's alpha software?
[11:50] <Pendulum> we have an intro for him
[11:50] <pleia2> Pendulum: yeah, I misread, sorry about that
[11:51] <nigelbabu> starting 10 minutes
[11:51] <nigelbabu> oooh i'm getting stage fright
[11:51] <pleia2> hehe
[11:51] <nigelbabu> I lost power at my house
[11:51] <nigelbabu> ran out and paying for power and internet now :(
[11:52] <cjohnston> AlanBell: mind if i subscribe you to a lernid bug?
[11:52] <cjohnston> ouch nigelbabu
[11:53] <nigelbabu> pleia2, keep this http://pastebin.com/m413a9c5c.  Its my session
[11:53] <nigelbabu> in case I miss
[11:53] <nigelbabu> and poke hggdh in ubuntu-bugs, he'll take over ;)
[11:53] <pleia2> I was gonna say... I can't do it! ;)
[11:53] <nigelbabu> #end disaster management
[11:54] <cjohnston> nigelbabu: is he prepaired to take it over?
[11:54] <cjohnston> and willing?
[11:54] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, he's going to help with Q and A
[11:54] <cjohnston> whered AlanBell go
[11:54] <cjohnston> ok cool
[11:54] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, if he's not you can ;)
[11:54] <cjohnston> ok
[11:54] <cjohnston> thanks
[11:54] <cjohnston> i have it
[11:54] <cjohnston> 5 minutes
[11:55] <pleia2> -classroom had "Ubuntu Classroom Chat" in the /topic
[11:56] <pleia2> dropped the Chat bit :)
[11:56] <cjohnston> im retarded.. whats your point
[11:56]  * pleia2 hugs cjohnston
[11:56] <Pendulum> cjohnston: can you not use the word retard? it's offensive
[11:56] <cjohnston> I'm sorry
[11:56] <AlanBell> cjohnston: here
[11:56] <Pendulum> cjohnston: apology accepted :)
[11:56]  * Pendulum hugs cjohnston
[11:57] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, I'm adding the part about the trouble on network to my thing
[11:57] <nigelbabu> and also about ignore
[12:00] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, where is nagendra ? :(
[12:00] <pleia2> :)
[12:00] <pleia2> ready?
[12:00] <nigelbabu> he was here some time back
[12:00] <cjohnston> doesnt matter
[12:00] <nigelbabu> lets move!
[12:00] <cjohnston> 0700
[12:00] <cjohnston> good mornin!
[12:01] <cjohnston> I changed the openweek to userday lol
[12:02] <cjohnston> everyone has been made ops btw... please help out with a quick ban/kick if there is spam
[12:02] <pleia2> we can probably +m after this "I'm from" bit
[12:03] <cjohnston> true
[12:03] <nigelbabu> yes
[12:03] <nigelbabu> pleia2, we should, no late I'm so and so
[12:04] <Pendulum> pleia2: does your intro actually say you like cats, btw?
[12:04] <nigelbabu> lol
[12:04] <pleia2> Pendulum: no, then people think I'm a crazy cat lady :)
[12:04] <cjohnston> if its true why not say it
[12:04] <Pendulum> heh
[12:04] <nigelbabu> hahaha
[12:04] <_marx_> lol!
[12:04] <nigelbabu> we know you are
[12:04] <pleia2> what's the link to the freenode webchat?
[12:04] <pleia2> lol
[12:04] <nigelbabu> webchat.freenode.net
[12:04] <Pendulum> I was just trying to figure out if I had to say "Pendulum likes cats (also)" or not :P
[12:05] <pleia2> I know that part :) the full link!
[12:05] <nigelbabu> http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-classroom%2Cubuntu-classroom-chat
[12:05] <nigelbabu> pleia2, m+
[12:05] <nigelbabu> nagendra, welcome
[12:06] <cjohnston> hey nagendra
[12:06] <cjohnston> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/01232010/intro  <-- nigelbabu _marx_ pleia2 Pendulum
[12:07] <AlanBell> thanks pleia2
[12:08] <cjohnston> mornin mike
[12:08] <pleia2> I think I'm going to go take a nap after the intro, there are enough folks here this early to cover, right?
[12:08] <pleia2> I will be around later when ya'll get tired :)
[12:09] <Pendulum> go for it
[12:09] <cjohnston> lol
[12:09] <cjohnston> i want a nap
[12:10] <cjohnston> pleia2: your up
[12:10] <mhall119> I just woke up and I want one
[12:11] <pleia2> ok, I'm done
[12:12] <cjohnston> Pendulum: ;-)
[12:13] <Pendulum> I'm done :)
[12:15]  * _marx_ done
[12:17] <nigelbabu> I'm done
[12:18] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, lets move, I'm done
[12:19] <cjohnston> pleia2: your turn ;-)
[12:19] <cjohnston> no colons!!!!!
[12:19] <nigelbabu> pleia2, colon!!
[12:19] <cjohnston> lol
[12:20] <pleia2> doh, it's in the script :)
[12:20] <cjohnston> pleia2: i just resaved the script removing a colon.. refresh real quick
[12:20] <nigelbabu> pleia2, modify the question
[12:20] <nigelbabu> question: bla bla
[12:21] <pleia2> Pendulum: you're up :)
[12:22] <cjohnston> the links are gonna open alot of websites for peopel
[12:22] <cjohnston> lol
[12:22] <pleia2> that's a really obnoxious feature
[12:22] <pleia2> hehe
[12:22] <cjohnston> try to slow it down a little..
[12:22] <cjohnston> we are only 22 minutes in
[12:22] <pleia2> there is Q&A at the end of our intro
[12:22] <cjohnston> hopefully they have questions
[12:22] <cjohnston> link fail
[12:23] <cjohnston> pleia2: are you pleia2 on LP?
[12:23]  * Pendulum removed her own colon :P
[12:23] <pleia2> "on LP"?
[12:23] <cjohnston> yay!
[12:23] <cjohnston> launchpad
[12:23] <cjohnston> .net/~??
[12:23] <pleia2> of course...
[12:23] <cjohnston> thought so..
[12:23] <Pendulum> _marx_: you're up
[12:24] <pleia2> can't really be part of ubuntu community if you're not
[12:24] <pleia2> or were you asking something more specific?
[12:24] <Pendulum> pleia2: he was asing your launchpad address
[12:24] <pleia2> oooh
[12:24] <pleia2> no
[12:24] <pleia2> I'm lyz
[12:24] <cjohnston> twss
[12:25] <cjohnston> pleia2: you have been added to a bug
[12:26]  * _marx_ done
[12:26] <pleia2> cjohnston: I am not really interested in lernid...
[12:26] <cjohnston> nigelbabu: your up
[12:26] <pleia2> I am on enough bugs that I do care about :)
[12:26] <cjohnston> ill remove you then
[12:26] <cjohnston> lol
[12:26] <cjohnston> ;-)
[12:26] <pleia2> thanks
[12:26] <Pendulum> does lernid have a channel? I'm having a problem, but I think it's unique to me
[12:27] <cjohnston> maybe i cant remove you pleia2 ... sorry
[12:27] <pleia2> link?
[12:27] <cjohnston> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/lernid/+bug/511535
[12:28] <pleia2> thanks :)
[12:30] <pleia2> Pendulum: I think that question was answered in -chat
[12:30] <Pendulum> was it?
[12:30] <Pendulum> still should probably be a public question
[12:31] <pleia2> ok :)
[12:31] <Pendulum> like the ones about sound and about whether lernid is required
[12:31] <nigelbabu> I'll answer them
[12:32] <pleia2> we are falling behind on questions, anyone want to answer the latest one in -classroom please?
[12:33] <cjohnston> i dont know the answer
[12:33] <cjohnston> lol
[12:33] <Pendulum> neither do I
[12:33] <pleia2> nigelbabu?
[12:33] <pleia2> nigelbabu: we want to answer the questions we post in -classroom first :)
[12:34] <pleia2> I'll post them, you can answer?
[12:34] <nigelbabu> i can try
[12:34] <pleia2> can you answer the /unignore one ?
[12:34] <cjohnston> im searching to see what i can find
[12:34] <pleia2> I'll do it...
[12:35] <nigelbabu> I dont know the unignore one
[12:35] <pleia2> someone posted the answer in -chat
[12:35] <cjohnston> great
[12:36] <nigelbabu> pleia2, you want me to answer that one?
[12:36] <nigelbabu> thanks ;)
[12:40] <pleia2> those darn colons :)
[12:40] <cjohnston> lol
[12:40] <pleia2> we should probably keep the irc questions in -chat
[12:40] <pleia2> since they are being answered ok there
[12:41] <Pendulum> okay, sorry
[12:41] <pleia2> no problem
[12:41] <pleia2> there are just so many of them, by the time we paste some helpful attendee is already answering :)
[12:42] <Pendulum> hmm... next time maybe we should see about getting the "using IRC" session earlier in the day?
[12:43] <pleia2> yeah, it's kinda funny at the end
[12:43] <nigelbabu> hehe
[12:43] <pleia2> "now that you used it all day, here is how to use it!" oops :)
[12:44] <nigelbabu> pleia2, how often?
[12:45] <cjohnston> the using IRC session isnt on using the client.. but using the resource that is IRC i believe
[12:45] <cjohnston> i.e. how to get help in IRC...
[12:45] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, yes, you're right
[12:45] <pleia2> looks to be both
[12:46] <pleia2> based on the outline
[12:46] <cjohnston> dunno
[12:46] <nagendra_> if anyone have any questions about ubuntu installation please do let me know
[12:48] <nigelbabu> nagendra_, welcome.  right now we're getting basic user days questions answered
[12:48] <Pendulum> did we ever decide who is introducing nagendra_ ?
[12:49] <cjohnston> no.. i figured wed just pick as we go
[12:49] <nigelbabu> how do I voice a person?
[12:49] <nigelbabu> well.. just in case
[12:49] <cjohnston> nigelbabu: ill take care of that
[12:49] <cjohnston> just easier
[12:49] <cjohnston> ;-)
[12:50] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, just asking.. in case ;)
[12:50] <cjohnston> i had to learn
[12:50] <cjohnston> lol
[12:50] <cjohnston> its a msg to chanserv
[12:51] <nigelbabu> voice right?
[12:51] <nigelbabu> and devoice?
[12:51] <pleia2> /mode -v nickname
[12:51] <pleia2> /mode +v nickname
[12:52] <pleia2> or /msg chanserv voice #channel nickname
[12:52] <pleia2> but +v seems easier for me :)
[12:52] <cjohnston> i didnt know that one pleia2
[12:52] <cjohnston> cool
[12:52] <nigelbabu> v+ depends on client I think
[12:52] <pleia2> on some clients you need to include the channel name
[12:52] <nigelbabu> shall I say thats about it for the first session?
[12:52] <pleia2> but it's just a channel mode
[12:54] <cjohnston> nagendra1: are you having internet issues today?
[12:54] <starcraftman> quesiton: nigel said : mess with lernid, links still fine eh? I'm just editting my prewritten speech.
[12:54] <nigelbabu> starcraftman, the links are why : mess with lernid
[12:54] <pleia2> nigelbabu: hey, we still have 6 minutes! :)
[12:54] <pleia2> quick, link to survey?
[12:55] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: so... I can't post links?
[12:55] <pleia2> cjohnston: wait! we need to answer the survey question first :)
[12:55] <cjohnston> it was
[12:55] <cjohnston> sorry
[12:55] <nigelbabu> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WQWHJQY
[12:56] <nagendra1> no their is no issues with my internet connection
[12:56] <nigelbabu> starcraftman, becuse links work! everything else has problems ;)
[12:56] <cjohnston> nagendra1: good..
[12:56] <nigelbabu> nagendra1, would you prefer pasting questions yourself or do you want us to do it for you?
[12:56] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: right ok, good. I remove extra colons then.
[12:56] <cjohnston> nagendra1: which nick are you using for teaching?
[12:57] <nigelbabu> for whoever is pating questions, please remove the colon
[12:58]  * pleia2 nods
[12:58] <cjohnston> nagendra1: ??
[12:58] <nagendra1>    	 	 	 	 	 	   Difference between windows and Linux (Ubuntu)
[12:58] <nagendra1>  Why Windows?
[12:58] <nagendra1>  Why Ubuntu?
[12:58] <nagendra1>  Who need Ubuntu and who need Windows
[12:58] <nagendra1>  Different version of Ubuntu and Linux
[12:58] <nagendra1>  Using Ubuntu live media
[12:58] <nagendra1>  Ubuntu Installation
[12:58] <cjohnston> umm
[12:58] <pleia2> nigelbabu: did we intentionally move it to the end?
[12:58] <nigelbabu> pleia2, not really, but it got bumped down
[12:59] <nigelbabu> +scheduling
[12:59] <nigelbabu> nhandler, is busy during these hours
[12:59] <Pendulum> nagendra1: you need to joing #ubuntu-classroom
[12:59] <cjohnston> ya.. peoples avail
[12:59] <Pendulum> in about a minute when your session starts ( and after someone introduces you) that's where your session goes
[12:59] <cjohnston> nagendra1: hello?
[12:59] <nagendra1> yep
[13:00] <nagendra1> I am in the #ubuntu-classroom
[13:00] <cjohnston> which nick are you using?
[13:00] <Pendulum> okay who is introducing? (since it's now time)
[13:00] <cjohnston> i dont see nagendra1
[13:00] <cjohnston> Pendulum: you can
[13:01] <pleia2> ok, I just voiced both :)
[13:01] <nigelbabu> hehe
[13:04] <Pendulum> nagendra1: you're up
[13:04] <starcraftman> cjohnston: q: can you only make an openID acocunt now for forums sign in?
[13:05] <cjohnston> huh?
[13:05] <nigelbabu> starcraftman, what/
[13:05] <Pendulum> nagendra1: where are you? you need to start your session
[13:05] <Pendulum> oops, nevermind :)
[13:06] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: cjohnstonI dunno, I just went to forums, all I see when not logged in  is "sign in with launchpad" I don't see just sign up forums.
[13:06] <starcraftman> Am I blind?
[13:06] <starcraftman> ><
[13:07] <nigelbabu> starcraftman, you can't sign up for an account with openID, you need to create an ID and associate your open ID with it
[13:07] <cjohnston> i see the user/pass login
[13:07] <nigelbabu> and then not use your username and pass but use your open ID to login
[13:08] <cjohnston> Pendulum: you got this one for a few minutes?
[13:08] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: oh damn, stupid me, register icon at left! Har.
[13:08]  * starcraftman feels dumb, dons dunce cap.
[13:08] <cjohnston> is it bad that i have 4 irc's open?
[13:08] <Pendulum> I can :)
[13:08] <cjohnston> ty
[13:09] <cjohnston> ill be back in a few..
[13:12] <_marx_> cjohnston, only 4!
[13:14] <pleia2> oops, colon
[13:15] <nigelbabu> !!!!
[13:15] <Pendulum> honestly, if that's the biggest problem, I suspect lernid can survive ;)
[13:16] <nigelbabu> Pendulum, its not a big problem
[13:16] <Pendulum> that's my point
[13:16] <pleia2> I think we want to split this session into 2 hours next time
[13:16] <nigelbabu> its just something that jono overlooked to filter out
[13:17] <nigelbabu> pleia2, I figured out my lernid trouble
[13:17] <pleia2> intro to ubuntu should be separate from installation
[13:17] <nigelbabu> you seem to have installed a lot of extra packages, else it wouldn't have worked for you.  default xubuntu does not have one dependency
[13:19] <nigelbabu> pleia2, there is a package called telepathy-idle (I didnt have it)
[13:19] <Pendulum> I think we maybe want to start asking people to hold questions until the end or something
[13:20] <pleia2> we'll have to ask the instructor what they prefer
[13:20] <Pendulum> yeah
[13:20] <pleia2> he's asking for questions :)
[13:20] <Pendulum> yeah, but none of those questions were relevent to what he was asking for questions about
[13:20] <pleia2> well, he was talking about installation
[13:21] <nigelbabu> Pendulum, just a heads up, there is a planned update to lernid to get QUESTION: blabla to get automatically pasted
[13:21] <Pendulum> cool
[13:21] <nigelbabu> some kind of session leader lernid ;)
[13:21] <pleia2> hopefully in a controlled way?
[13:21] <cjohnston> got breakfast.. im good to go
[13:22] <cjohnston> call !question, lernid pastes one question, Answer: would answer the question and paste the next would be cool
[13:22] <pleia2> I mean, so bad ones can be weeded out
[13:22] <cjohnston> o
[13:22] <cjohnston> that too
[13:23] <nigelbabu> not planned, some feature like this will be implimented, but jono knows details
[13:23] <pleia2> cool
[13:23] <starcraftman> yay, done editting my speech, I hope c/ping the thing gets me more time in my session, getting help is a big topic ><
[13:25] <cjohnston> starcraftman: remove all the colons :-P
[13:25] <starcraftman> cjohnston: darn the colons I say!!!
[13:25] <starcraftman> straight to Robot Hell!
[13:25] <cjohnston> lol
[13:29] <starcraftman> cjohnston: everytime I post a link it automatically redirects the lernid folks eh?
[13:29] <_marx_> anyone know how to make konversation detach a channel
[13:29] <starcraftman> even without the link tag.
[13:29] <_marx_> so there's two windows open
[13:29] <cjohnston> yes starcraftman
[13:29] <popey> cjohnston: dont suppose you have any backup people for the user day?
[13:29] <starcraftman> cjohnston: rgr, just checking.
[13:29] <cjohnston> popey: you backing out?
[13:30] <starcraftman> hi popey!
[13:30] <nigelbabu> popey, bad headache?
[13:30] <popey> I've got a monster headache
[13:30] <nigelbabu> popey, have the session written out?
[13:30] <popey> I need to get away from the screen
[13:30] <popey> no nigelbabu
[13:30] <pleia2> eek
[13:30] <cjohnston> duanedesign: ??
[13:30] <nigelbabu> oh oh
[13:30] <popey> i might be okay in a few hours, but I dont know
[13:30] <duanedesign> hello, just got in
[13:30] <nigelbabu> if you had a session written out, we could manage
[13:30] <duanedesign> :)
[13:30] <popey> just wanted to see if you had any backups
[13:31] <cjohnston> partitioning 101 right popey ?
[13:31] <pleia2> duanedesign: up for doing a partitioning 101 session today? :)
[13:31] <popey> yeah
[13:31] <nigelbabu> duanedesign, you'll have to write it too!
[13:31] <Pendulum> popey: hope you feel better *hugs*
[13:31] <duanedesign> what time is it
[13:31] <pleia2> 20 UTC
[13:31] <popey> 7 hours
[13:31] <duanedesign> oh sure
[13:31] <popey> 6.5
[13:31] <pleia2> \o/
[13:31] <duanedesign> no problem at all
[13:31]  * popey hugs duanedesign
[13:31] <popey> sorry guys/gals
[13:32] <starcraftman> duanedesign: good guy, and hope ya feel better popey
[13:32] <cjohnston> no problem popey.. health always comes first
[13:32] <popey> i never ever get these, but today I do
[13:32] <duanedesign> popey: hope you feel better
[13:32] <_marx_> hope you get to feeling better popey
[13:32] <popey> thanks
[13:32] <popey> offline..
[13:34] <starcraftman> duanedesign: hmmm, popey doesn't seem to have posted an outline. Well no matter, Don't mind improvising a bit? Just don't forget talking bout /home.
[13:35] <_marx_> i saw size of swap questions just now too
[13:35] <duanedesign> starcraftman: thanks for checking. I got a few hours to pull something together. :)
[13:35] <nigelbabu> <flame alert>
[13:37] <starcraftman> duanedesign: no worries. Just run down the basics, what's a partition, logical/ext/primary, filesystem types, swap (please tell em not to use that silly 2*RAM rule), and then gparted basics and /home. That should cover. Heh, almost sounds like I should do it.... I <3 partitions.
[13:40] <nigelbabu> starcraftman, wanna switch?
[13:40] <nigelbabu> ;)
[13:41] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: heh, naw, I like my support topic too, got it all written out. That'd make it too easy for duanedesign methinks!
[13:41] <nigelbabu> haha!
[13:41] <nigelbabu> I thought so ;)
[13:43] <starcraftman> duanedesign: if you need any help though I'm about, I'll prolly be avail in the slot for answer questions in chat at least.
[13:44] <duanedesign> thanks starcraftman
[13:44] <starcraftman> duanedesign: np
[13:45] <nigelbabu> starcraftman, duanedesign : we can voice both of you
[13:45] <nigelbabu> so starcraftman can take questions
[13:46] <cjohnston> nagendra1: 14 minutes left
[13:46] <duanedesign> ill be right back. had to add some extra aliases to handle the increase in windows
[13:46] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: ah sure, up to duane it's his session.
[13:49] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: where'd marx go? Isn't he next?
[13:49]  * _marx_ here
[13:50] <cjohnston> Anyone with UserDaysTeam/01232010/intro open please refresh!
[13:50] <cjohnston> nagendra1: 10 minutes left
[13:50] <nigelbabu> whose got lernid, a doubt
[13:51] <nigelbabu> is the ending time for schedules a bit off?
[13:51] <cjohnston> I have lernid
[13:51] <cjohnston> ?
[13:51] <cjohnston> it just gave a 10 minute warning
[13:51] <starcraftman> _marx_: oh silly me, was looking at m section. Hi there.
[13:51] <_marx_> hi starcraftman
[13:52] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, check schedule, what is the end time?
[13:52] <nigelbabu> first few sessions
[13:53] <cjohnston> 9, 10, 11, 12
[13:53] <cjohnston> _marx_: fwiw, im changing your intro a little since you already used it once
[13:53] <_marx_> k cjohnston
[13:53] <_marx_> i left out the carpenter bit first time
[13:54] <cjohnston> now you tell me that
[13:54] <cjohnston> :-P
[13:54] <pleia2> hehe
[13:54] <_marx_> sorry
[13:54] <cjohnston> pleia2: should we announce 5 minutes left in -classroom?
[13:54] <pleia2> yeah
[13:54] <cjohnston> uggh... /me is tired of the wiki
[13:55] <_marx_> cjohnston, shall i change the topic?
[13:56] <cjohnston> _marx_: not yet
[13:56] <cjohnston> Anyone with UserDaysTeam/01232010/intro open please refresh!
[13:56] <_marx_> yeah when it's time i meant
[13:56] <cjohnston> if you want..
[13:56] <cjohnston> ill do marks session
[13:57] <_marx_> intro?
[13:57] <cjohnston> pleia2: go find your beer at 9
[13:57] <cjohnston> ;-)
[13:57] <nigelbabu> guys I'm going away for some time
[13:57] <nigelbabu> dinner and all
[13:57] <cjohnston> k nigelbabu see you when you get back!
[13:57] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, hope you handle things well
[13:57] <starcraftman> later nigelbabu
[13:57] <pleia2> cjohnston: I think I will :)
[13:57] <Pendulum> I'm going to grab some breakfast (or at least tea) back in a few minutes
[13:58] <pleia2> ok, I'll wait until pen comes back
[13:58] <Pendulum> pleia2: you sure? I can wait
[13:58] <Pendulum> (I"m just going 10 ft)
[13:58] <pleia2> I will be gone for a couple hours :)
[13:58] <Pendulum> heh, fair point
[13:59] <nagendra1> hay I am done with my session
[14:00] <pleia2> thanks nagendra1 :)
[14:00] <nagendra1> :)
[14:00] <Pendulum> pleia2: I'm back :)
[14:00] <pleia2> ok :)
[14:00] <pleia2> bbl folks, good luck!
[14:02] <mhall119|work> cjohnston: call me if you need me, I'm doing work around the house
[14:02] <cjohnston> thanks mike
[14:08] <cjohnston> Pendulum: do you want me to handle the questions or do you want to?
[14:08] <Pendulum> either or
[14:08] <Pendulum> which would you prefer?
[14:08] <cjohnston> he cant even say the first word before they start with the questions.. holy crap
[14:08] <Pendulum> yep
[14:09] <cjohnston> doesnt matter to me.. if you need to take a break you can
[14:09] <Pendulum> I'm only c&ping the ones I think are relevent to where he is
[14:09] <cjohnston> ya
[14:09] <Pendulum> (like so that people knew that shell = terminal in ubuntu)
[14:09] <cjohnston> ill let you take it then..
[14:09] <cjohnston> and ill just help control
[14:12] <starcraftman> cjohnston: hmmm, for my session can I just have questions kept to the end? Prefer not to interupt my flow. Maybe ya can answer em in chat if they aren't too major?
[14:12] <cjohnston> starcraftman: ya.. just ask that at the beginning
[14:13] <starcraftman> cjohnston: rgr.
[14:13] <Pendulum> cjohnston: when people check in with us we should probably start asking that question so we know before they start talking ;)
[14:13] <nigelbabu> um, can someone op me in classroom
[14:14] <cjohnston> ya
[14:14] <cjohnston> professor.. wow..
[14:14] <cjohnston> lol
[14:15] <nigelbabu> thanks :)
[14:15] <nigelbabu> I'm out for dinner for a few
[14:15] <cjohnston> cya
[14:16] <starcraftman> darn it, where's ignore command? I forgot to do that...
[14:16] <starcraftman> unignore after undoes right?
[14:17] <cjohnston> i believe so
[14:21] <cjohnston> uggh
[14:21] <cjohnston> people are pm'ing now
[14:21] <cjohnston> jamalta: identify!
[14:21] <jamalta> cjohnston: hey
[14:21] <Pendulum> cjohnston: about?
[14:21] <jamalta> cjohnston: sorry, issues with ubuntu one screwed up my config
[14:21] <cjohnston> lol
[14:21] <cjohnston> Pendulum: PMing mark
[14:22] <jamalta> he should just ignore them
[14:22] <cjohnston> he asked people not to PM him
[14:23] <jamalta> that's good too :)
[14:23] <cjohnston> how goes this mornin jamalta ?
[14:24] <cjohnston> you going to mikes?
[14:26] <jamalta> cjohnston: going well so far
[14:27] <jamalta> not sure yet, haven't asked telepathy
[14:27] <cjohnston> ic
[14:28] <jamalta> are you?
[14:29] <cjohnston> no
[14:29] <cjohnston> he wouldnt let me show up at 6
[14:30] <jamalta> pm?
[14:30] <jamalta> oh before user days
[14:30] <jamalta> right
[14:42] <nigelbabu> okay, I"m back
[14:43] <starcraftman> lo again nigelbabu
[14:45] <Pendulum> hi nigelbabu
[14:45] <nigelbabu> Pendulum, how are you guys holding up?
[14:46] <Pendulum> not too badly
[14:47] <nigelbabu> :)
[14:47] <starcraftman> jus my notebook, main machines been lil testy lately, too much tinkering maybe?
[14:48] <cjohnston> lol
[14:48] <nigelbabu> are we pasting for max? or is he doing it himself?
[14:48]  * nigelbabu glares at colon usage!
[14:48] <Pendulum> it's been a bit of both
[14:50] <nigelbabu> houston calling starcraft-ntbk, come in starcraft-ntbk ;)
[14:50] <Pendulum> starcraft-ntbk: you want questions held, correct?
[14:52] <cjohnston> starcraftman: which nick are you using
[14:52] <starcraftman> cjohnston: starcraftman, ntbk just my alt
[14:52] <starcraftman> hmmm, maybe I'll log it off unless I crash.
[14:52] <nigelbabu> okay, halt self-destruct ;)
[14:54] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, !!!! colon !!!!
[14:54] <cjohnston> lol
[14:54] <nigelbabu> if u cant remove the colon
[14:54] <DiegoTc> cjohnston, they just ask me a question i don't know the answer
[14:54] <nigelbabu> just make sure there is blank space before and after
[14:54] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: you'll be happy to know I removed em all except for links :)
[14:54] <nigelbabu> DiegoTc, whats the question?
[14:54] <DiegoTc> is the ubuntu user day always going to be the 23 of January
[14:54] <nigelbabu> DiegoTc, no
[14:55] <DiegoTc> okay
[14:55] <nigelbabu> DiegoTc, this is the first one.  We will plan another one acrroding feedback from attendees
[14:55] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, does DiegoTc have survey link? or a survey?
[14:55] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: we haz a survey for feedback?
[14:55] <cjohnston> dunno nigelbabu
[14:56] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, is the survey oriented too much to our user days (specific session-wise)?
[14:56] <nigelbabu> if not, he can use ours too (though I prefer a new one)
[14:56] <nigelbabu> starcraftman, yes
[14:56] <cjohnston> yes... i think it is too english oriented
[14:57] <DiegoTc> may i see it?
[14:57] <nigelbabu> DiegoTc, you can create a new survey using survey monkey dot com
[14:57] <cjohnston> DiegoTc: its in the topic in #ubuntu-classroom
[14:57] <nigelbabu> DiegoTc, http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WQWHJQY
[14:58] <starcraftman> monkey!!
[14:58] <starcraftman> I sees. I will be sure to lodge complaints on the lack of food/cake promised air shipped to my home!
[14:59] <DiegoTc> working on it
[14:59] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, shall I do the intro?
[14:59] <Pendulum> nigelbabu: go for it
[15:01] <nigelbabu> starcraftman, you're up :)
[15:02] <nigelbabu> made a little cosmetic change of "we think he's a bot"
[15:03] <nigelbabu> starcraftman, you want questions at the end?
[15:03] <starcraftman> I'm getting there in introduction.
[15:04] <nigelbabu> starcraftman, oh great, lernid doesnt take https :(
[15:05] <cjohnston> nigelbabu: it had a - infront of it with no space
[15:05] <nigelbabu> ah
[15:05] <nigelbabu> that could also cause trouble
[15:06] <Pendulum> good thing for the lernid people that we are testing before UDW ;)
[15:07] <nigelbabu> definitely, now all session leaders can rewrite
[15:09] <nigelbabu> he's good (as expected) :)
[15:18] <nigelbabu> starcraftman, good going so far!
[15:26] <DiegoTc> nigelbabu, ready http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/MSRXBMW
[15:26] <nigelbabu> DiegoTc, nicely done (though I dont understand the launguage)
[15:26] <DiegoTc> hahaha
[15:27] <DiegoTc> the same question but in spansh
[15:27] <DiegoTc> spanish
[15:31] <_marx_> DiegoTc, how is it going today in spanish
[15:31] <nigelbabu> we've hit 225 users online
[15:33] <DiegoTc> _marx_, we have not started yet
[15:33] <nigelbabu> DiegoTc, oh, when is your first session?
[15:33] <DiegoTc> 27 minutes are missing
[15:34] <DiegoTc> we have right now 47 people
[15:34] <nigelbabu> ah, thats why pablo is spamming identi.ca :P
[15:34] <DiegoTc> hahah
[15:34] <_marx_> tee menos vienteseis
[15:34] <DiegoTc> we have 47 people right now
[15:34] <_marx_> hablo un poco
[15:35] <DiegoTc> in the first openweek in spanish 60-70people was the record
[15:35] <nigelbabu> DiegoTc, then its pretty cool :)
[15:38] <cjohnston> DiegoTc: it looks like there should be a log bot in your channel
[15:40] <DiegoTc> i am looking for it
[15:40] <DiegoTc> to many nicks
[15:40] <nigelbabu> DiegoTc, whats your channel?
[15:41] <andresmujica> DiegoTc: ubuntulog
[15:41] <DiegoTc> ia lo vi
[15:41] <DiegoTc> i saw it
[15:41] <andresmujica> DiegoTc: log at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/01/23/%23ubuntu-charlas.html
[15:42] <DiegoTc> thanks
[15:46] <jamalta> nm,. i'm here!
[15:46] <jamalta> err
[15:46] <jamalta> :)
[15:47] <cjohnston> your late!
[15:47] <cjohnston> I'm gonna report you!
[15:47] <jamalta> pfft
[15:47] <pleia2> how are we naming this day? User Days 01?
[15:47] <jamalta> :P
[15:47] <jamalta> i was :(
[15:47]  * pleia2 is going to start putting up logs
[15:47] <nigelbabu> pleia2, for the record, I asked that some time back
[15:48] <pleia2> nigelbabu: ok, what was the answer?
[15:48] <nigelbabu> we do it by dates :(
[15:48] <nigelbabu> but I think number is a good idea ;)
[15:48] <nigelbabu> a few years down the line
[15:49] <paultag> nigelbabu, looks like starcraftman is doing a great job
[15:49] <pleia2> what is the date format? US? Int'l?
[15:49] <paultag> so much copy paste!
[15:49] <pleia2> Jan2010?
[15:49] <nigelbabu> paultag, he's doing excellent format
[15:49] <nigelbabu> pleia2, refer to intro page which cjohnston made
[15:49] <nigelbabu> 01232010
[15:49] <pleia2> ah US timestamp
[15:49] <nigelbabu> paultag, everyone likes him ;)
[15:49] <cjohnston> pleia2: I was gonna do em just by date
[15:50] <jamalta> heh, we have quite a few lernid users
[15:50] <pleia2> why are we going with US?
[15:50] <cjohnston> cause international conduses me?
[15:50] <nigelbabu> woops we forgot to change the calender
[15:50] <pleia2> hehe
[15:50] <pleia2> do we actually need the *day*
[15:50] <nigelbabu> I vote we go by numbers
[15:50] <pleia2> can we just do month? :)
[15:50] <pleia2> 012010
[15:51] <nigelbabu> just put 001
[15:51] <pleia2> 001?
[15:51] <cjohnston> I was gonna just do January 2010
[15:51] <nigelbabu> we'll keep incrementing, that way when we get to 25 or 50, we can have a celebration ;)
[15:51] <pleia2> I am going with January2010
[15:51] <pleia2> :)
[15:51] <nigelbabu> wokay
[15:52] <_marx_> nigelbabu, i like your optimism
[15:52] <nigelbabu> paultag, if u understand spanish, do drop by at ubuntu-charlas
[15:52] <nigelbabu> _marx_, hehe ;)
[15:52] <paultag> nigelbabu, I don't :(
[15:52] <starcraftman> you guys wanna manage the questions and pasting to classroom?
[15:52] <paultag> nigelbabu, I only speak german
[15:52] <nigelbabu> _marx_, with such an amazing team, I have no doubts
[15:53] <_marx_> it's going well so far
[15:53] <nigelbabu> paultag, there was some internet in having a german one.. perhaps you'd be interested
[15:53] <paultag> nigelbabu, german user days?
[15:53] <paultag> nigelbabu, I am not nearly good enough :)
[15:53] <nigelbabu> paultag, yeah.. well, you could mange stuff
[15:54] <nigelbabu> starcraftman, see question
[15:54] <paultag> I would not mind that
[15:54] <nigelbabu> paultag, do a survey and start things with the loco, even 5 sessions would be nice
[15:55] <paultag> nigelbabu, whens the next userdays?
[15:55] <nigelbabu> paultag, the spanish guys have real interest going
[15:55] <nigelbabu> not decided
[15:55] <paultag> OK
[15:55] <nigelbabu> depends on feedback
[15:55] <paultag> I'll do some groundwork when / if you need me
[15:55] <cjohnston> nigelbabu: i think they are all picking on me in -charlas
[15:55] <nigelbabu> probably another 6 months
[15:55] <pleia2> cjohnston: if you don't object, I'm just going to edit the included UserDaysTeam/01232010 page to have logs, and include it in UserDays/Logs/January2010
[15:55] <DiegoTc> cjohnston, was the sensation in #ubuntu-charlas
[15:56] <cjohnston> pleia2: go for it
[15:56] <cjohnston> they enjoyed messing with the english speaker? cause they could make fun of me and i wouldnt know
[15:56] <cjohnston> i translated about the first 10 lines and then gave up cause they were talking too fast
[15:56] <paultag> hahahhaa
[15:57] <pleia2> cjohnston: do we just want to put the logs under their outline? on like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01232010/CommandLineBasics ?
[15:58]  * _marx_ thinks logs for each class good idea
[15:58] <_marx_> users can look for what the want instead of the entire day
[15:58] <cjohnston> pleia2: tbh, i was thinking about linking from UserDays to something like January 2010 (in the logs on the header), and then on that page, have the schedule, with the logs linked from the course title in the schedule
[15:59] <cjohnston> starcraftman: you finished?
[15:59] <cjohnston> I guess it would more be UserDays/January2010
[15:59] <pleia2> cjohnston: right, that's what I'm saying :) already created such a page
[15:59] <cjohnston> ill intro jamalta
[15:59] <cjohnston> oh fine.. im confused
[15:59] <cjohnston> leave me alone!
[15:59] <cjohnston> :-P
[16:00] <pleia2> hehe
[16:00] <jamalta> hm ok :)
[16:00] <pleia2> I'll just make it and you can tell me if you hate it, or change it ;)
[16:01]  * nigelbabu hugs starcraftman
[16:01] <cjohnston> lol
[16:01] <jamalta> do i start? o.o
[16:01] <jamalta> oh wait.. ok
[16:01] <nigelbabu> starcraftman, that was really really really awesome!
[16:01] <nigelbabu> jamalta, we'll alert you ;)
[16:01] <jamalta> nigelbabu: ok cool :)
[16:01] <jamalta> sorry a bit nervous, lol
[16:02] <nigelbabu> apparently the spanish guys hit 69 members, during UOW their record is around 70, pretty cool!
[16:02] <cjohnston> jamalta: its you
[16:02] <_marx_> there're at 73 now!
[16:03] <nigelbabu> we're at 221
[16:03] <nigelbabu> jamalta, um, dont use colon!
[16:03] <DiegoTc> we just began right now
[16:03] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: thanks and yes cjohnston now that is done, used every minute :)
[16:03] <nigelbabu> jamalta, if you do, please leave space before and after
[16:04] <jamalta> like :) or :(
[16:04] <jamalta> OH
[16:04] <paultag> cjohnston, why no colons?
[16:04] <cjohnston> paultag: it is throwing erros in lernid
[16:04] <nigelbabu> paultag, lernid errors
[16:04] <paultag> Ahhhh
[16:04] <paultag> that's awesome. I'm so doing that
[16:04] <cjohnston> please dont
[16:04] <paultag> I'm kidding, man
[16:04] <cjohnston> its annoying as... well... its annoying
[16:04] <paultag> sheeeet
[16:05] <nigelbabu> paultag, its a pretty nifty app.  you should probably join developing it ;)
[16:05] <jamalta> oh i'm not using lernid, sorry!
[16:05] <paultag> nigelbabu, I was going to talk with Jono about it, but then I started doing Fluxbox dev work
[16:05] <nigelbabu> paultag, got lots of bugs now.  apparently, lots of people helping already
[16:05] <paultag> Yeah, I don't want to fsck things up
[16:06] <nigelbabu> hehe ;)
[16:10] <nigelbabu> pleia2, logs posted?
[16:10] <jamalta> this is going kind of fast... lol
[16:11] <pleia2> nigelbabu: working on it...
[16:12] <cjohnston> slow it down jamalta ;-)
[16:13] <nigelbabu> jamalta, take time, relax ;)
[16:14] <nigelbabu> um, jamalta, do you mind if we paste the questions? the colon is an issue for quite a lot of people
[16:14] <cjohnston> ouch: ouch: ouch: ouch: ouch:
[16:15] <paultag> I'm so glad we are not using lernid today
[16:15] <nigelbabu> paultag, I wonder how bad developer week would be
[16:15] <_marx_> yeah the colon is pita bug
[16:15] <_marx_> i've got to step out for about an hour
[16:15] <paultag> aahahaha
[16:16] <_marx_> should be back by 12:30 EST
[16:16] <paultag> you did it again jamalta!
[16:16] <Pendulum> _marx_: see ya :)
[16:18] <pleia2> ok, session logs for the first 4 sessions are now up
[16:19] <cjohnston> pleia2: the email that just came for UCLP, I was actually looking at that spot yesterday and thinking about throwing my name in it.. ;-)
[16:19] <cjohnston> sweet.. thanks pleia2 !
[16:19] <pleia2> cjohnston: you mean classroom?
[16:19] <cjohnston> ehh
[16:19] <cjohnston> that one too
[16:19] <cjohnston> lol
[16:19] <pleia2> hehe
[16:19] <pleia2> yeah, I am not sure how to approach his email
[16:19] <pleia2> we kinda do that already by cc-ing the -news-team on announcements
[16:19] <cjohnston> ya
[16:19] <cjohnston> I know
[16:20] <cjohnston> Is there anything else needed help with?
[16:20] <nigelbabu> what mail are you talking about?
[16:20] <cjohnston> I was thinking about sending out an email to see if anyone had any classes they were wanting to teach for Feb since nothin is scheduled
[16:21] <pleia2> we mostly just need help recruiting
[16:21] <pleia2> nigelbabu: latest email to ubuntu-classroom list
[16:21] <nigelbabu> classroom oh, i haven't signed up
[16:21] <nigelbabu> meant to, forgot
[16:21] <starcraftman> there's a list?
[16:22] <pleia2> starcraftman: yes :)
[16:22]  * cjohnston has been working on setting up his rules so emails go to the right places... since i get so many
[16:23] <starcraftman> pleia2: do we have lp team too?
[16:24] <pleia2> starcraftman: there is a classroom management team
[16:24] <starcraftman> pleia2: ah ok, not for contribs then. s'okay, I got enough teams I guess.
[16:24] <nigelbabu> plenty of lernid users today :)
[16:24] <nigelbabu> I count more than 15
[16:24] <cjohnston> and thats just who hasnt changed from lernid nicks correct?
[16:25] <nigelbabu> no
[16:25] <nigelbabu> lernid automatically prepends user with lernid_
[16:25] <nigelbabu> actually lernid opens 2 irc connections, one with telepathy and one with webchat
[16:25] <cjohnston> nigelbabu: im in as cjohnston|lernid
[16:26] <nigelbabu> the webchat is the user name we decide
[16:26] <nigelbabu> check lernid_cjohnston|lernid
[16:26] <nigelbabu> the telepathy is lernid_<what-you-decided>
[16:27] <cjohnston> oh thats just off
[16:28] <nigelbabu> next time, we'll ask all instructors to run lernid instance
[16:28] <nigelbabu> that way they'll be careful ;)
[16:28] <cjohnston> pleia2: email good
[16:29] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, I'm in classroom and I never got an email :(
[16:29] <nigelbabu> I mean clasroom list
[16:30] <cjohnston> dunno
[16:30] <nigelbabu> hunts for archive
[16:30] <cjohnston><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:30] <nigelbabu> yep
[16:32] <pleia2> nigelbabu: you are configured to get digests
[16:32] <pleia2> rather than individual emails
[16:32] <cjohnston> ;-)
[16:32] <nigelbabu> doh! I dont get that either
[16:32] <pleia2> digests are bad for low traffic lists like classroom
[16:32] <pleia2> takes weeks to finally get email
[16:33] <nigelbabu> yeah
[16:33] <nigelbabu> those were my first few days
[16:33] <nigelbabu> now only docs is digest
[16:35] <cjohnston> too much wiki email today
[16:35] <nigelbabu> pleia2, who does the recruiting (arm-twisting) for dev week?
[16:35] <cjohnston> lol
[16:35] <nigelbabu> daniel?
[16:35] <cjohnston> yes
[16:35] <pleia2> nigelbabu: the motu folks
[16:36] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, put docs into digest (that thing is not worth it anyway)
[16:36] <nigelbabu> its mostly about sys docs
[16:36] <cjohnston> lol
[16:37] <nigelbabu> pleia2, and I'll help cjohnston with the recruiting and with advertising
[16:37] <pleia2> \o/
[16:37] <cjohnston> Pendulum: did you go away for a break or are you still around
[16:37] <Pendulum> I'm still here, was attempting to order groceries
[16:37] <nigelbabu> pleia2, ?
[16:38]  * nigelbabu looks around wondering if he said something wrong
[16:39] <pleia2> \o/ <-- cheering
[16:39] <cjohnston> nigelbabu: thats great
[16:39] <cjohnston> ;-)
[16:39] <nigelbabu> ah !
[16:40] <nigelbabu> BTW, Some of the bugs in Lernid are actually fixed
[16:40] <cjohnston> ?
[16:40] <cjohnston> is there an update?
[16:40] <nigelbabu> Jono hasn't merged all the branch requests that he's got
[16:40] <cjohnston> ic
[16:40] <nigelbabu> once he does that, its going to be clean
[16:41] <nigelbabu> I spoke to quense about it.  He's hacked around it
[16:42] <nigelbabu> s/clean/cleaner
[16:47] <nigelbabu> whoever is introducing me, talk about attacks again and logs available
[16:47] <nigelbabu> and survey
[16:49] <cjohnston> leave my poor phone (email) alone!
[16:50] <nigelbabu> your on your phone?
[16:52] <nigelbabu> pleia2, if you dont mind, I could use the extra time
[16:52] <pleia2> sorry, I wasn't paying attention, extra time?
[16:52] <jamalta> nigelbabu: take it :)
[16:53] <nigelbabu> jamalta, thanks.  beautiful session :)
[16:53] <jamalta> nigelbabu: thanks :)
[16:53] <nigelbabu> pleia2, jamalta is done.  wondered if I could start early
[16:53] <pleia2> nigelbabu: but what if people come for your session? they will be late
[16:53] <pleia2> we really should stick to the schedule so people aren't disappointed
[16:53] <nigelbabu> ok :)
[16:54] <pleia2> (people can disagree with me if they want)
[16:54] <pleia2> hehe
[16:55] <cjohnston> good point
[16:55] <cjohnston> but who would wnat to listen to nigelbabu ?
[16:55] <cjohnston> :-P
[16:55] <cjohnston> jk of course
[16:55] <jamalta> btw, thank you all :)
[16:55] <nigelbabu> hehe
[16:55] <jamalta> this was a very fun experience
[16:55] <cjohnston> thanks jamalta !
[16:56] <Pendulum> nigelbabu: do you want questions throughout or just at the end?
[16:56] <nigelbabu> Pendulum, I'll take it thrice during the session.  I'll ask for them :)
[16:57] <Pendulum> okay :)
[16:57] <Pendulum> you might want to say that at the beginning
[16:57] <nigelbabu> I will
[16:57] <nigelbabu> um, why can't I voice/devoice anyone? even though I'm op
[16:58] <pleia2> doing it wrong? :)
[16:59] <cjohnston> nigelbabu: /mode +/- v <user>
[17:00] <nigelbabu> yeah
[17:00] <cjohnston> its noon
[17:00] <nigelbabu> the msg thingie is not working
[17:00] <pleia2> hehe
[17:00] <cjohnston> who is introducing?
[17:00] <pleia2> what is it saying?
[17:00] <nigelbabu> not me!
[17:00] <pleia2> I can do it, just read the intro page?
[17:00] <nigelbabu> yeah
[17:00] <cjohnston> ya
[17:02] <cjohnston> you got it pleia2 ?
[17:02] <nigelbabu> im on?
[17:02] <pleia2> go :)
[17:03] <DiegoTc> hey guys a new record
[17:04] <Pendulum> DiegoTc: way to go!
[17:04] <DiegoTc> 101 people on EL Dia del Usuario Ubuntu
[17:07] <cjohnston> yay!
[17:07] <pleia2> DiegoTc: great!
[17:07] <Pendulum> \o/
[17:10] <jamalta> alright thx everyone
[17:10] <jamalta> i have to head out to reinstall karmic on my machine
[17:10] <Pendulum> jamalta: thank you!
[17:10] <jamalta> everything looks retarded lol
[17:10] <jamalta> Pendulum: thank you! :)
[17:10] <jamalta> good job to everyone
[17:10] <jamalta> you guys are doing great
[17:10] <Pendulum> jamalta: can you please not use the word retarded? it's offensive
[17:11] <jamalta> Pendulum: sorry :(
[17:11] <jamalta> I will rephrase that then, everything looks distorted
[17:11] <Pendulum> thanks :)
[17:12] <jamalta> Pendulum: yw, sorry about that
[17:12] <pleia2> gah, colon
[17:13] <pleia2> sorry
[17:15] <cjohnston> I've sent jono an email to let him know some feedback
[17:15] <Pendulum> I have to admit the immediate apologies when someone does slip up and use a colon are somewhat amusing me
[17:16] <pleia2> thinking first instead of after is too hard :)
[17:16] <cjohnston> lol
[17:16] <pleia2> *paste* OH BOTHER!
[17:17] <Pendulum> and then I giggle when I see the apology :)
[17:17] <Pendulum> (although some of that may be sleep deprivation, I suppose)
[17:17] <pleia2> hehe
[17:18]  * cjohnston feels like he needs a shower
[17:19] <pleia2> me too
[17:20]  * cjohnston wishes we could all get together for dinner and a drink after this
[17:20] <cjohnston> lol
[17:21] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, me too!
[17:21] <cjohnston> nigelbabu: come on over
[17:21] <pleia2> I'm glad you didn't say "for a shower after this"
[17:21] <cjohnston> lol
[17:21] <cjohnston> my wife would have a problem with that
[17:22] <pleia2> hehe
[17:22] <DiegoTc> cjohnston, i had to arranged the logs so they can be seen like this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01232010/Introduction
[17:22] <cjohnston> for yours?
[17:23] <DiegoTc> yeap
[17:23] <cjohnston> cool
[17:23] <DiegoTc> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiaDelUsuarioUbuntu/23012010Introduccion
[17:23] <DiegoTc> look
[17:23] <nigelbabu> i'd love to, will you pay for my ticket ?
[17:23] <nigelbabu> ;)
[17:23] <DiegoTc> but is there a way only for copy paste
[17:23] <cjohnston> yup.. uh huh... i know exactly what is going on there DiegoTc... so glad you gave me that link :-P
[17:23] <cjohnston> jk.. it looks good DiegoTc
[17:24] <DiegoTc> cjohnston, well i want this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiaDelUsuarioUbuntu/23012010Introduccion to look like this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01232010/Introduction
[17:25] <cjohnston> it does doesnt it?
[17:25] <DiegoTc> nop it doesn't
[17:26] <DiegoTc> the english version looks like IRC log
[17:26] <DiegoTc> spanish version is lie this one
 it does doesnt it?   11.25
[17:26] <cjohnston> oh
[17:26] <cjohnston> that has to do with the log that you used
[17:27] <cjohnston> we should be able to get the ones from the bot...
[17:27] <cjohnston> brb
[17:30] <pleia2> DiegoTc: we're getting ours from irclogs.ubuntu.com
[17:30] <pleia2> the spanish ones is a bit confusing to my brain
[17:31] <DiegoTc> yes to me to
[17:31] <DiegoTc> :(
[17:31] <DiegoTc> there it goes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiaDelUsuarioUbuntu/23012010Introduccion
[17:32] <cjohnston> cool
[17:32] <cjohnston> you got it
[17:32] <pleia2> looks good :)
[17:33] <mhall119> I'm here
[17:34] <_marx_> mhall119, you do know about the colon thing right?
[17:35]  * pleia2 fires up lernid to have a look
[17:36] <mhall119> _marx_, 2 or more right
[17:37] <_marx_> hadn't heard two none is probably safest
[17:38] <mhall119> ok
[17:39]  * _marx_ just now started lernid
[17:41] <mhall119> test
[17:42] <_marx_> ah i c
[17:43] <DiegoTc> if i want to give voice to someone in a channel which is the command?
[17:44] <cjohnston> its /mode +v <nick>
[17:45] <DiegoTc> and for taking it /mode -v <nick>
[17:46] <Pendulum> pleia2: are you around to talk about a -learning thing for a sec?
[17:46] <pleia2> Pendulum: sure
[17:52] <cjohnston> nigelbabu: fyi 8 minutes
[17:52] <Pendulum> hiya dinda :)
[17:52] <cjohnston> lunch has arrived.. yay!
[17:53] <mhall119> my house it getting crowded
[17:53] <cjohnston> i bet
[17:53] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, done, questions now
[17:53] <cjohnston> you smokin some food?
[17:53] <cjohnston> awesome nigelbabu
[17:53] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, how was it? too fast?
[17:53] <cjohnston> tbh i didnt horribly pay too much attention... trying to work on other things
[17:53] <cjohnston> at the same time
[17:54] <_marx_> it was good nigelbabu good job!
[17:54] <pleia2> it was great nigelbabu :)
[17:54] <pleia2> nigelbabu: you ok posting hte QUESTIONs?
[17:55] <nigelbabu> yeah
[17:55] <nigelbabu> i'm cool with that
[17:55] <pleia2> ok :)
[17:56] <cjohnston> im planning on reading all the logs later on.. ;-)
[17:56] <cjohnston> then tell mhall119 how bad... i mean how good of a job he did
[17:56]  * mhall119 is anxious
[17:56] <pleia2> mhall119: you'll do great! :)
[17:56] <mhall119> it still feels like public speaking
[17:57] <mhall119> pleia2, are you giving time warnings?
[17:57] <pleia2> I keep forgetting
[17:57] <mhall119> like at 15 minutes, 10 mintues, etc
[17:57] <mhall119> well then I'll blame it on you if I run over ;P
[17:57] <pleia2> ok
[17:57] <pleia2> hehe
[17:57] <cjohnston> ive been giving some mhall119
[17:57] <cjohnston> depending on how they are doing
[17:58] <mhall119> ok
[18:01] <cjohnston> your on mike
[18:01] <mhall119> is someone pasting questions in to -classroom?
[18:01] <mhall119> please please
[18:01] <cjohnston> up to you
[18:01] <cjohnston> then
[18:01] <cjohnston> ye
[18:01] <cjohnston> s
[18:01] <nigelbabu> phew
[18:01]  * nigelbabu is exhausted and feels high ;)
[18:04]  * _marx_ gives nigelbabu a pat on the back
[18:05] <cjohnston> go nigelbabu .. go nigelbabu ...
[18:05] <cjohnston> its your birthday
[18:05] <cjohnston> lol
[18:05] <Pendulum> nigelbabu: well done :)
[18:05] <nigelbabu> thanks :)
[18:06] <starcraftman> good of you to have pics mhall119, next time I'd just take shots of the window, focuses user eyes and takes less space on pages.
[18:06]  * starcraftman waves hello to cprofitt
[18:07] <cjohnston> nigelbabu: is there a spam issue in -chat
[18:07] <nigelbabu> starcraftman: you made a heck a lot of work easier for me
[18:07] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, yes
[18:07] <cjohnston> is it someone in the room?
[18:07] <nigelbabu> hopefully most people set it to ignore
[18:07] <nigelbabu> the guy got k-lined
[18:07] <cjohnston> k
[18:08] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: hehe, getting more questions now? didn't get a lil bored not having a flurry to keep up with?
[18:10]  * DiegoTc is getting tired :(
[18:10] <starcraftman> DiegoTc: power nap time?
[18:10] <starcraftman> Spanish session going alright?
[18:10] <DiegoTc> yeap, but we need people to help
[18:10] <DiegoTc> we didn't think about that
[18:10] <DiegoTc> haha
[18:11] <nigelbabu> DiegoTc, it gets tiring doing the op parts after some time.  we're doing it in shifts
[18:11] <starcraftman> I'd volunteer to deliver my get help speech but.... you'd have to find me a babel fish for translation to fit in my ear.
[18:11] <DiegoTc> nigelbabu, yeap, but you were prepared for that
[18:11] <DiegoTc> pablo and myself
[18:11] <DiegoTc> forget about that
[18:11] <cprofitt> Forum folks appear to be on vacation
[18:11] <DiegoTc> we are asking help to person we know
[18:12] <nigelbabu> good :)
[18:12] <nigelbabu> duane?
[18:12] <DiegoTc> but the problem is they don't have their nicks register
[18:12] <DiegoTc> :(
[18:13] <nigelbabu> DiegoTc, be careful about the ctcp spam floating around
[18:15] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: is this going to stop sometime?
[18:16] <nigelbabu> starcraftman, next saturday
[18:16] <starcraftman> ah good
[18:16] <starcraftman> nigelbabu: what's special about next saturday?
[18:16] <DiegoTc> nigelbabu, what i have to do if it appears'
[18:16] <DiegoTc> ?
[18:16] <cjohnston> the new version of freenode i believe
[18:16] <nigelbabu> just make an announcement not to click the links
[18:23] <pleia2> starcraftman: fwiw, there are two mailing lists
[18:23] <pleia2> ubuntu-learning which focuses on course development
[18:23] <pleia2> and ubuntu-classroom which is a sub-project of -learning focused on the IRC portion of things
[18:24] <starcraftman> pleia2:oh
[18:24] <nigelbabu> and ubuntu user days is like half there and half here ;)
[18:24] <pleia2> well, we use this channel to plan -classroom stuff
[18:24] <pleia2> since -classroom is a subproject
[18:24] <pleia2> so it's a bit confusing :)
[18:24] <starcraftman> pleia2: I guess I can sign up for other too while I'm at it, got a good filtering scheme keeps me from flooding. I'm available for delivering the odd session if you guys need.
[18:25] <starcraftman> link?
[18:25] <pleia2> starcraftman: great!
[18:25] <Pendulum> there are 2 mailing lists?
[18:26] <pleia2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-classroom
[18:26] <Pendulum> hmm... I think I'm not on one of them
[18:26] <nigelbabu> Pendulum, you aren't ubuntu member yet?
[18:26] <starcraftman> pleia2: np, I do more advanced topics as needed too. Just not server stuff.
[18:27] <Pendulum> nigelbabu: no...
[18:27] <nigelbabu> ah, that figures how you turn up on my gtalk contacts
[18:28]  * cjohnston doesnt have anyone on google talk
[18:28] <cjohnston> lol
[18:28] <Pendulum> nigelbabu: when I go for member I'd be<EMAIL_ADDRESS>not pstowe anyway
[18:29] <nigelbabu> hehe
[18:29] <nigelbabu> I renamed you now as pendulum, penelope was misleading
[18:29] <nigelbabu> I'd be wondering "now who is this"
[18:29]  * cjohnston likes calling her Penny
[18:29] <cjohnston> dunno why
[18:30] <Pendulum> Penny is fine as long as it's not Penny Lane
[18:30] <cjohnston> Just Penny
[18:30] <cjohnston> yyyuuuummmmmmm.. monster energy drink
[18:37]  * pleia2 sips redbull
[18:38] <cjohnston> I prefer monster
[18:38] <cjohnston> the locarb one tastes really good
[18:38]  * Pendulum has never had redbull or monster
[18:38]  * nigelbabu is on d bed
[18:38] <pleia2> this is the sugar free one
[18:38] <pleia2> nomonom
[18:39] <cjohnston> lol
[18:40] <nigelbabu> me <3 the fact that maco and hggh are answering questions that session leaders cannot resolve :)
[18:41] <cjohnston> lol
[18:42] <cjohnston> tryin to clean out my email
[18:44] <DiegoTc> SOS
[18:44] <nigelbabu> DiegoTc, yes?
[18:44] <cjohnston> whats up dude?
[18:45] <DiegoTc> I am almost alone right now in #ubuntu-charlas
[18:45] <DiegoTc> PAblo got sick right now
[18:45] <DiegoTc> he went to the hospital
[18:45] <cjohnston> ??
[18:45] <nigelbabu> oh
[18:45] <cjohnston> :-(
[18:45] <cjohnston> I'm in there
[18:46] <cjohnston> Don't know how much help I can be by not understanding
[18:46] <DiegoTc> well  supposly we were going to divide i am living at 22.00  utc and was going to be the last 2 hours
[18:48] <nigelbabu> DiegoTc, how much more to go?
[18:48] <nigelbabu> i mean hours
[18:48] <DiegoTc> i will be 3 more hours
[18:50] <cjohnston> DiegoTc: is there anything we can help you wish?
[18:50] <cjohnston> with
[18:50] <pleia2> shall we drag magicfab here?
[18:50] <cjohnston> im trying to think of spanish speakers who can help
[18:50] <cjohnston> he is still teaching in spanish user day
[18:50] <pleia2> ah ok
[18:51] <pleia2> right right, they were back to back sessions
[18:51] <DiegoTc> magicfab is leaving after the english class he gives
[18:51] <DiegoTc> well someone has to be op and always be in passing by #ubuntu-charlas-chat
[18:51] <DiegoTc> and if someone see <PREGUNTA>
[18:51] <DiegoTc> copy it to the #ubuntu-charlas channel
[18:52] <DiegoTc> right now there is no problem, but i am wondering what will happen in 3hours
[18:52] <DiegoTc> :S
[18:53] <cjohnston> can some of your other instructos help out?
[18:53] <cjohnston> hey hggdh
[18:53] <hggdh> cheers
[18:53] <cjohnston> thanks for your help today
[18:53] <nigelbabu> DiegoTc, hggdh *mite* volunteer to help you guys out
[18:54] <cjohnston> hggdh: speaks spanish?
[18:54]  * _marx_ spanish is pretty bad
[18:54] <hggdh> I can read it -- I speak Portuguese
[18:54] <pleia2> all I can say is "no hablo espanol" and "yo tengo dos gatos"
[18:54] <cjohnston> i can ask for a telephone number, and where the pain is
[18:54] <hggdh> LOL
[18:54] <pleia2> :)
[18:55] <Pendulum> hggdh: can you read it enough that if you were to see something say <PREGUNTA> and then something else, you'd know it was a quesiton to be pasted into a channel where someone was teaching a class?
[18:55] <hggdh> Pendulum: oh yes, this is easy
[18:56] <cjohnston> hggdh: can you help out the spanish user days?
[18:56] <hggdh> for the record, pregunta == pergunta in Portuguese
[18:56] <cjohnston> one of their hosts went to the hospital
[18:56] <hggdh> cjohnston: yes
[18:56] <cjohnston> except for the fact that i can guess pregunta means question, i wouldnt know
[18:56] <pleia2> hehe
[18:56] <DiegoTc> yes
[18:57] <cjohnston> hggdh: #ubuntu-charlas and #ubuntu-charlas-chat
[18:57] <mhall119> my fingers hurt
[18:57] <hggdh> cjohnston: I am there
[18:57] <mhall119> that was ferocious typing
[18:57] <cjohnston> :-)
[18:58] <pleia2> woohoo mhall119! :)
[18:58] <nigelbabu> DiegoTc, can you voice hggdh please
[18:58] <Pendulum> mhall119: well done!
[18:58] <DiegoTc> yeap
[18:58] <DiegoTc> I am doing it right now
[18:58] <nigelbabu> :)
[18:58] <mhall119> I knew I was gonna run long
[18:58] <mhall119> I wasn't too terribly technical was I?
[18:58] <DiegoTc> thanks guys
[18:59] <mhall119> okay, I've got meat to attend to, thanks for letting me be a part of User Day
[18:59] <nigelbabu> I got this one ;)
[18:59] <pleia2> thanks mhall119 :)
[18:59] <nigelbabu> mhall119, it was nice :)
[18:59] <cjohnston> thanks mike!
[18:59] <nigelbabu> mhall119, I've only done from command line
[18:59] <DiegoTc> well hggdh will help in the copy paste question from 23. utc and Jdardon he will be op when i leave
[18:59] <_marx_> good job mhall119
[18:59] <nigelbabu> mhall119, thanks for amazing class, again :)
[19:00] <hggdh> DiegoTc: roger wilco
[19:00] <DiegoTc> haha
[19:00] <pleia2> does lernid give like 50 notifications for new sessions for everyone?
[19:00] <hggdh> DiegoTc: you mean 23:00 UTC, correct?
[19:00] <Pendulum> yes
[19:00] <DiegoTc> don't  understand
[19:00] <DiegoTc> yeap
[19:00] <nigelbabu> pleia2, no
[19:00] <hggdh> OK. So I am going out for 30 minutes to grab me lunch
[19:00] <DiegoTc> okay
[19:01] <pleia2> nigelbabu: I think you can go ahead and introduce magicfab
[19:01] <Pendulum> is MagicFab done with his spanish presentation?
[19:02] <_marx_> no, look like not quite
[19:02] <DiegoTc> he got a little excited :D
[19:05] <cjohnston> all i know is he said MORTAL FATAL....
[19:05] <DiegoTc> haha
[19:05] <DiegoTc> he finish
[19:06] <cjohnston> pleia2: Pendulum nigelbabu _marx_ how ya doin?
[19:06] <pleia2> good, pizza should be here soon!
[19:06] <pleia2> :)
[19:06] <cjohnston> yummy
[19:06] <nigelbabu> cjohnston, a little sleepy, its 12:30 am
[19:06] <nigelbabu> I didn't sleep in the afternoon at all
[19:07] <cjohnston> you can take off whenever you need to
[19:07] <_marx_> ok, streatching my spanish skills trying to follow some over there
[19:07] <pleia2> does MF want questions pasted to him as they come in, or will he pause and ask for them?
[19:07] <Pendulum> cjohnston: okay. just finished some wings and have a burrito to start in on when I get hungry next
[19:07] <Pendulum> oh and a passionfruit shake to try
[19:07] <cjohnston> lol
[19:08] <cjohnston> pleia2: dont know.. i tried PMing him, but no response
[19:08] <Pendulum> the bonus of living in Harlem is good Spanish food :)
[19:12] <DiegoTc> MagicFab  finish in one channel and goes directly to the other one
[19:13] <starcraftman> duanedesign: poke, how goes?
[19:16] <Pendulum> btw, do you guys want me to take the next intro?
[19:16]  * starcraftman hopes duanedesign hasn't gotten lost before session.
[19:16] <cjohnston> thats fine
[19:17] <Pendulum> I feel like I'm not pulling my own weight here, sorry :(
[19:17] <cjohnston> your doin fine
[19:18] <pleia2> Pendulum: if you want to take over posting questions when my food arrives, you're welcome to :)
[19:18] <Pendulum> okay :)
[19:19] <nigelbabu> Pendulum, no problem, go :)
[19:29] <duanedesign> starcraftman: good
[19:29] <starcraftman> ah hey duanedesign, good good, just checking.
[19:30] <starcraftman> I'll be around if ya need a bit of hand, just touching up a lil program fora  class.
[19:30] <Pendulum> duanedesign: do you have an intro I can use?
[19:30] <Pendulum> (to introduce you)
[19:30] <Pendulum> or a wiki page that I can read quickly and use to create one?
[19:31] <cjohnston> I'm going to stretch for a few minutes.. if you ping me it will go to my phone, so if you need something.. ping me
[19:31] <cjohnston> but dont abuse it
[19:31] <Pendulum> haha
[19:34] <pleia2> Pendulum: food arrived! passing question handling to you :)
[19:34] <Pendulum> kk
[19:34] <Pendulum> duanedesign: intro for me to use?
[19:42] <starcraftman> Pendulum: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/duanedesign < Duanes page, must be busy prepping.
[19:44] <duanedesign> Pendulum: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/duanedesign
[19:44] <duanedesign> oops
[19:44] <cjohnston> only 26100 more seconds
[19:45] <cjohnston> http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?day=23&month=1&year=2010&hour=22&min=00&sec=00&p0=867
[19:45] <nigelbabu> can you guys mange the show?
[19:45] <cjohnston> ya
[19:45] <duanedesign> starcraftman: are you familiar with were the mount point is specified when creating a new Logical Partition. I dont have a LiveCD burned right now to check.
[19:45] <cjohnston> go to bed
[19:46]  * DiegoTc is tired :S
[19:47] <hggdh> only a few more hours, DiegoTc ;-)
[19:47] <nigelbabu> I'll be back in a few hours
[19:47] <cjohnston> sleep well nigelbabu
[19:47] <starcraftman> duanedesign: hmm, I can boot lucid vm installer and see. If you need screens check the gparted site doc seciton eh? I'm sure they dun mind ya borrow.
[19:47] <nigelbabu> its 1 am and i'm hardly holding up
[19:47] <duanedesign> thats a good place to check
[19:48] <DiegoTc> nigelbabu, here is almost 2
[19:48] <DiegoTc> but pm :p
[19:48] <hggdh> g'night nigelbabu, good work :-)
[19:48] <nigelbabu> thanks hggdh, not complete yet
[19:48] <DiegoTc> Good Night nigelbabu
[19:48] <DiegoTc> thanks for all
[19:48] <nigelbabu> I'm spreading nets for next session
[19:48] <starcraftman> night nigelbabu
[19:48] <nigelbabu> getting people to lead sessions ;)
[19:49] <nigelbabu> got one now
[19:49] <nigelbabu> pleia2, maco commited to doing a session next time
[19:49] <pleia2> \o/
[19:49] <hggdh> way to go.
[19:49]  * hggdh wonders how the hell he got pulled in ;-)
[19:49] <DiegoTc> for the next time we have to get better prepared with PAblo :D
[19:50] <DiegoTc> we have learn something new this day
[19:50] <DiegoTc> WE ARE HUMANS!!
[19:50] <DiegoTc> we get tired :(
[19:50] <cprofitt> pleia2: 4pm EST is my time -- anything you need from me prior to the session?
[19:50] <pleia2> nope
[19:50] <cprofitt> k
[19:50] <cjohnston> yes
[19:50] <pleia2> oh
[19:51] <cjohnston> a million dollars
[19:51] <pleia2> :P
[19:51] <cprofitt> I do have breaks where I ask for questions. and at the end as well.
[19:51] <DiegoTc> hahah
[19:51] <cprofitt> I will be linking them out to the wiki and to the forums
[19:51] <cjohnston> ok.. cool
[19:51] <_marx_> cprofitt, you know about the colon problem in lernid?
[19:53] <hggdh> ok, my first intervention in perfect Spanish done. Perfect, a least for me.
[19:53] <cjohnston> of the 5 people in my house, im the only one awake at 3pm
[19:53] <pleia2> hehe
[19:53] <pleia2> my housemates are cats, so it's no surprise that they are sleeping
[19:54] <nigelbabu> can someone give me a wake up call in a few hours lol
[19:55] <cjohnston> umm
[19:55] <cjohnston> sure
[19:55] <cjohnston> if you pay for the call
[19:55] <nigelbabu> hehe
[19:56] <mhall119> cjohnston, you looking for me?
[19:56] <cjohnston> Pendulum: are you doing the next one?
[19:56] <cjohnston> mhall119: nope.. some people in -fl are
[19:57] <Pendulum> cjohnston: if I can figure out what to say
[19:57] <cjohnston> duanedesign: ?
[19:57] <Pendulum> or do you want to do it and I'll do the one after
[19:57] <Pendulum> (I've been distracted by posting questions
[19:57] <cjohnston> ill do it
[19:58] <duanedesign> thats a good place to check/8
[19:59] <DiegoTc> hello duanedesign
[19:59] <duanedesign> hello
[19:59] <cjohnston> duanedesign: do you have an intro?
[19:59] <duanedesign> no :(
[20:01] <_marx_> nicely done cjohnston
[20:02] <cjohnston> I know.. thats why i'm cjohnston and your not
[20:02] <cjohnston> :-P
[20:02] <cjohnston> jk
[20:02] <cjohnston> heh
[20:03] <cjohnston> 25000 more seconds!!!
[20:03] <cjohnston> lol
[20:04] <cjohnston> _marx_: having a good day?
[20:05] <_marx_> yeah, haven't killed a pesky cat yet, butt is getting tired of sitting
[20:05] <cjohnston> get up and walk around.. i did a little bit ago
[20:05] <_marx_> today she decides she wants to play with network cables!
[20:05] <cjohnston> lmao
[20:05] <pleia2> hehe
[20:07] <_marx_> back in a few
[20:07] <cjohnston> ;-)
[20:08] <hggdh> can someone ban IngoForina on the charlas-chat?
[20:08] <hggdh> IngForigua, sorry
[20:09] <cjohnston> uggh
[20:10] <cjohnston> does anyone have ops?
[20:10] <cjohnston> what is he needing banned for
[20:10] <cjohnston> hggdh:
[20:10] <cjohnston> DiegoTc:
[20:10] <DiegoTc> yes cjohnston
[20:10] <cjohnston> DiegoTc: look up at hggdh's msgs
[20:11] <hggdh> he idiot was suggesting at chat for people to use 'sudo rm -rf /'
[20:11] <cjohnston> he is one of the instructos too
[20:12] <DiegoTc> hggdh, yeap he is one of the instructors
[20:12] <hggdh> for me this is enough reason to ban. It is not acceptable at all.
[20:12] <cjohnston> DiegoTc: do you have the ability to ops in charlas-chat ?
[20:12] <hggdh> DiegoTc: please tell him not to do taht anymore
[20:13] <Pendulum> you could always point out that I'm fairly certain that falls under violation of the CoC if he won't listen
[20:14] <DiegoTc> hggdh, ready
[20:15] <DiegoTc> which is the command for giving op to someone?
[20:15] <cjohnston> it is /mode +o <nick>
[20:15]  * pleia2 hugs IdleOne
[20:15]  * IdleOne hugs back
[20:16] <DiegoTc> thanks
[20:16] <IdleOne> added to favorites
[20:16] <pleia2> IdleOne wants to help with our next UUD :)
[20:16] <cjohnston> whats an IdleOne
[20:16] <pleia2> he's a canadian with an ubuntu tattoo!
[20:16] <IdleOne> cjohnston: Well it is a ummm, well. What's it to you? :P
[20:16] <IdleOne> :) hehe
[20:16] <Pendulum> hiya IdleOne :)
[20:16] <hggdh> DiegoTc: I am ready
[20:17] <IdleOne> heya Pendulum
[20:17] <IdleOne> :)
[20:17] <cjohnston> umm... its... i dunno
[20:17] <IdleOne> cjohnston: it's an old nick from another network
[20:17] <IdleOne> just doesn't seem to want to go away
[20:18] <cjohnston> whats your current nick on this network?
[20:18] <IdleOne> IdleOne:
[20:18] <IdleOne> :)
[20:18] <cjohnston> uh huh
[20:18] <cjohnston> thank
[20:18] <cjohnston> thanks
[20:18] <DiegoTc> hggdh and cjohnston sometimes in spanish they are some phrases that will look ofensive in enlgish, so becarful with that
[20:19] <cjohnston> DiegoTc i will
[20:19] <hggdh> DiegoTc: certainly
[20:20] <DiegoTc> and in the chat channel they are having spam, questions and also helping in the interview
[20:20] <DiegoTc> so don't think they are just having full spam there :p
[20:22] <cjohnston> the sun is getting to that spot where it comes through the window and my office is almost unbearable
[20:23] <hggdh> heh. At least you have the sun shining. Here... blah weather
[20:23] <cjohnston> its flipping january 23 and its 75 degrees... i hate it!
[20:24] <DiegoTc> cjohnston,  hggdh andresmujica and Jdardon will be helping
[20:24] <cjohnston> sweet
[20:24] <hggdh> and in Chicago is about 48...
[20:24] <DiegoTc> right now they are eating :D
[20:24] <cjohnston> thats too hot
[20:24] <cjohnston> awesome
[20:24] <DiegoTc> going to the shower
[20:38] <_marx_> 98 in -charlas atm
[20:38] <cjohnston> 207 in classroom!
[20:39] <_marx_> i think it's been higher than that
[20:39] <hggdh> when I got in the -charlas, it was at about 120
[20:41] <DiegoTc> hggdh, 120?
[20:41] <cjohnston> pleia2: your killing my inbox
[20:41] <cjohnston> lol
[20:41] <pleia2> sorry :)
[20:41] <DiegoTc> who didn't saw it the most i saw 112
[20:41] <hggdh> DiegoTc: as far as I can remember. I was curious, so I looked at the body count
[20:42] <cprofitt> pleia2: what room(s) do I need to be in?
[20:42] <pleia2> cprofitt: #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat
[20:42] <pleia2> you talk in #ubuntu-classroom, people chat and ask questions in #ubuntu-classroom-chat, we paste questions to you in #ubuntu-classroom
[20:43] <Pendulum> cprofitt: do you want questions as you go or have you built in question & answer time or how would you like that handled?
[20:43] <cprofitt> I have built in spaces for questions
[20:43] <cprofitt> but questions that are relevant can interrupt me...
[20:43] <cprofitt> I really do not mind
[20:44] <cjohnston> 22,500 seconds left  ;-)
[20:45] <pleia2> hehe
[20:45]  * cjohnston is firing emails back at pleia2 now.. hehe
[20:46]  * Pendulum is ignoring emails today
[20:46]  * _marx_ too
[20:46] <Pendulum> if you don't have my phone number or aren't on IRC, you can wait, IMO
[20:46]  * pleia2 reviews diff - yay!
[20:47]  * cjohnston goes searching Pendulum's phone number
[20:47] <cjohnston> lol
[20:47] <cjohnston> I'm taking care of the todo list that pleia2 gave me
[20:47] <nhandler> cjohnston: When you add links to LP, don't link to edge (re: w.u.c/Classroom/Guidelines)
[20:48] <cjohnston> and trying to keep from having a thousand wiki change emails from pleia2
[20:48] <cjohnston> sorry nhandler
[20:49] <pleia2> it's ok, I filter them all anyway
[20:49] <nhandler> cjohnston: No problem. Your update looks good. Maybe mention how to OP, set the /topic, and set +m (many people don't know how to do that)
[20:49] <cjohnston> I plan on it
[20:49]  * nhandler has gotten a million emails from the User Day pages
[20:49] <cjohnston> 98% prolly from me
[20:49] <cjohnston> lol
[20:49] <cjohnston> I havent mastered the preview button
[20:49] <nhandler> :)
[20:49] <pleia2> nah, I've been updating all the pages to have logs
[20:50] <pleia2> so probably lots from me :)
[20:51] <DiegoTc> nhandler, really?
[20:51] <nhandler> DiegoTc: Really what?
[20:51] <DiegoTc> * nhandler has gotten a million emails from the User Day pages
[20:51] <nhandler> DiegoTc: Well, maybe not a million, but a lot
[20:52] <DiegoTc> haha
[20:52] <DiegoTc> okay
[20:52] <cjohnston> it is way too flipping hot in here
[20:52] <hggdh> O(1 million) certainly ;-)
[20:58] <cprofitt> so just hang in the channel and wait for the introdution now?
[20:58] <hggdh> cprofitt: yes
[21:01] <cjohnston> its you
[21:01] <cjohnston> cprofitt:
[21:02] <pleia2> oops, duanedesign used /Partitioning and we had /Partitioning101 linked
[21:02] <cjohnston> just noticed that my current karma is 3344  lol
[21:02]  * pleia2 gets rid of the 101
[21:05] <cjohnston> hmm.. trying to figure out the best way to format this
[21:05] <cjohnston> nhandler: ill try to hit preview so i dont spam you too much
[21:06] <nhandler> cjohnston: Don't worry about it ;) I'm used to it.
[21:06] <cjohnston> lol
[21:06] <cjohnston> I'm trying to learn to be nice
[21:06] <cjohnston> lol
[21:07] <Pendulum> cjohnston: better late than never? :P
[21:07] <cjohnston> ouch
[21:07]  * Pendulum hugs cjohnston
[21:07] <cjohnston> uh huh
[21:07] <hggdh> cjohnston: you karma beats mine
[21:07] <pleia2> yeah I have like 2 karmas
[21:08] <pleia2> hehe
[21:08] <Pendulum> I have none, I think
[21:08] <pleia2> oh sorry, 15 :)
[21:08] <cjohnston> pleia2: you have 15
[21:09] <cjohnston> hggdh: umm.. your karma is scary
[21:10] <cprofitt> how are questions handled... how do I know if there are none?
[21:10] <hggdh> there will be someone forwarding them to you
[21:10] <cjohnston>  hggdh the last 4 digits of my phone number is 3833
[21:10] <cjohnston> your karma is 3883
[21:11] <cjohnston> thats too close
[21:11] <cjohnston> for comfort
[21:11] <cjohnston> lol
[21:11] <hggdh> cjohnston: I *knew* karma was useful somewhere!
[21:11] <cprofitt> can we have the other class leave dicussion if that is where people are supposed to be asking me questions
[21:11] <hggdh> cjohnston: ^
[21:13] <cjohnston> cprofitt: just look for what starts with QUESTION  dont worry about the rest. if thats ok?
[21:13] <pleia2> cprofitt: you'll want to avoid using :
[21:13] <pleia2> it breaks lernid :)
[21:13] <pleia2> (or try anyway, we're all failing at this)
[21:13] <cjohnston> lol
[21:14] <hggdh> cjohnston: who is going to forward Qs to c profitt?
[21:14] <pleia2> Pendulum is already
[21:14] <cjohnston> Pendulum: is on top of this stuff
[21:14] <hggdh> oh, k, sorry
[21:14] <cjohnston> hggdh: i can keep you voiced and you can help
[21:14] <Pendulum> cprofitt: let me know if I'm pasting too fast for you
[21:15] <hggdh> if Pendulum is there, no need
[21:15] <Pendulum> I'm trying to wait until I think you've finished the previous, but can't always tell
[21:15] <cprofitt> I will let you know
[21:16] <DiegoTc> the logs have been update 100 % https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiaDelUsuarioUbuntu/LogsEnero2010
[21:17] <Pendulum> also, let me know if you want me to wait until you ask for questions at any point
[21:17] <cprofitt> k
[21:17] <cprofitt> Pendulum: we good to go on to the next topic...
[21:17] <Pendulum> looks like it :)
[21:20] <cjohnston> duanedesign: thanks for the last minute step up!
[21:20] <duanedesign> cjohnston: no problem. i am glad to do it
[21:21] <duanedesign> cjohnston: hour goes by quick
[21:21] <duanedesign> :P
[21:21] <duanedesign> or i type slow
[21:22] <cjohnston> hmm
[21:22]  * cjohnston goes looking for wiki help
[21:22] <cjohnston> lol
[21:24] <DiegoTc> cjohnston, Pablo got intoxicated with his lunch
[21:24] <cjohnston> intoxicated?
[21:25] <DiegoTc> intoxicated
[21:25] <DiegoTc> yeap
[21:25] <cjohnston> like drunk?
[21:25] <starcraftman> duanedesign: nice job duanedesign :)
[21:26] <duanedesign> starcraftman: thanks the prep time went fast. The session went even faster. Definetly learned a lot for my next session, as that was my first one.
[21:27] <duanedesign> i.e. put important stuff first in case you run long :)
[21:28] <starcraftman> duanedesign: good good, was my first one too. Ah yes, or know strictly how long your going. I just pretyped it, I'd have never finished otherwise.
[21:28] <cjohnston> G35
[21:28] <cjohnston> ugg
[21:42] <DiegoTc> guys Jorge Castro speaks spanish?
[21:43] <starcraftman> DiegoTc: dunno him, ask.
[21:48] <jcastro> hi!
[21:48] <pleia2> hey jcastro :)
[21:48] <Pendulum> hiya jcastro :)
[21:49] <jcastro> wow neat, lernid notified-osd'ed me that I have 10 minutes!
[21:50] <DiegoTc> hi jcastro
[21:50] <DiegoTc> jcastro, you speak spanish
[21:50] <jcastro> hi!
[21:50] <jcastro> nope.
[21:56] <jcastro> is there a paste person or is just me?
[21:56] <Pendulum> I'm there
[21:56]  * jcastro can do whichever
[21:56] <jcastro> ok, cool
[21:56] <Pendulum> do you want questions through out or at specific points?
[21:56] <jcastro> throughout it fine
[21:56] <jcastro> I'll start with a spiel
[21:56] <jcastro> and then some points
[21:57] <jcastro> and then be alike "any questions so far?"
[21:57] <Pendulum> and that's a good time to start putting in questions? ;)
[21:57] <jcastro> yeah, heh
[21:57] <Pendulum> cjohnston, _marx_, nigelbabu, pleia2: who is introducing jcastro ?
[21:58] <Pendulum> (I can do it, I just wanted to know if someone else was)
[21:58] <_marx_> you want this one?
[21:58] <Pendulum> sure
[21:58] <_marx_> ghead
[21:59] <nhandler> cjohnston: If you include {{{, the wiki formatting is ignored
[21:59] <cjohnston> im noticing..
[21:59] <cjohnston> I'm trying to figure out how to do this, but wanted to show pleia2 the length
[21:59] <DiegoTc> okay guys i will leave in some minutes
[21:59] <DiegoTc> :D
[22:00] <doctormo> pleia2: hey
[22:00] <pleia2> hey doctormo
[22:00] <cjohnston> whats up doc?
[22:01] <doctormo> Do you have any experence with raid?
[22:01] <pleia2> software or hardware?
[22:01] <Pendulum> I think I just got cut off :P
[22:01] <doctormo> pleia2: Looks like it might be software, bios raid 1 on a Dell desktop
[22:02] <pleia2> doctormo: raid 1 configured on a dell controller?
[22:02] <pleia2> or configured by mdadm in linux?
[22:02] <pleia2> (if former, yuck)
[22:03] <doctormo> pleia2: raid 1 configured by the bios on the dell (I think) it's hard to figure out.
[22:03]  * pleia2 nods
[22:03] <pleia2> my experience with those is 1) they are a pain to configure and work with because nothing is labeled sanely in the raid bios
[22:03] <pleia2> 2) when one dies, you're in trouble
[22:04] <pleia2> one == controller
[22:04] <pleia2> that said, what is your question? :)
[22:04] <DiegoTc> cjohnston, hggdh I am leaving in 5 mintues
[22:04] <DiegoTc> minutes
[22:04] <cjohnston> ok DiegoTc thanks..
[22:04] <cjohnston> how much longer is yours scheduled?
[22:04] <DiegoTc> andresmujica, and Jdardon will be heloing
[22:04] <hggdh> DiegoTc: OK
[22:05] <DiegoTc> it finish at 1utc
[22:05] <cjohnston> so about 3 hours
[22:05] <DiegoTc> 3 more clases are missing
[22:05] <DiegoTc> I think I will be for the end
[22:05] <DiegoTc> thanks for all
[22:06] <cjohnston> thanks DiegoTc
[22:07] <cjohnston> nhandler: how does that one look?
[22:07] <doctormo> pleia2: One has died ;-)
[22:07] <pleia2> doctormo: find another that is identical
[22:08] <pleia2> that's your only hope, good luck :)
[22:08] <doctormo> pleia2: Another disk?
[22:08] <pleia2> oh, a disk died?
[22:08] <doctormo> pleia2: yes
[22:08] <pleia2> ah ok, that shouldn't be so bad
[22:09] <nhandler> cjohnston: I'll make a few changes. For instance, I would talk about OPing yourself instead of giving yourself OPs. I would also only mention the /mode #ubuntu-classroom +m command (not the /mode +m), it should work in all clients
[22:09] <cjohnston> 17,450 seconds left for those keeping track
[22:09] <cjohnston> ok
[22:09] <pleia2> pull the bad disk, put in a new one, go into the raid bios and add the disk to the "container" (I think they call it container)
[22:09] <cjohnston> Go for it.. and then ill learn from you ;-)
[22:09] <DiegoTc> thanks
[22:09] <pleia2> it should automagically do it's thing and restore the data
[22:09] <DiegoTc> see you later
[22:09] <doctormo> pleia2: Ah thanks :-)
[22:10] <pleia2> doctormo: just pay attention to big warnings, the interface isn't particularly intuitive, this always takes me forever since I always fear data loss :)
[22:10] <_marx_> see ya DiegoTc
[22:11] <cprofitt> so --- honest opinin -- did it go ok?
[22:11] <hggdh> cprofitt: yes
[22:11] <_marx_> yes it went well cprofitt
[22:11] <Pendulum> cprofitt: good job :)
[22:12] <cprofitt> ok ... thanks ... irc is much different than in-person...
[22:12] <_marx_> i got a little worried when the app specific questions started flowing in
[22:12] <Pendulum> _marx_: so did I
[22:12] <cprofitt> yeah some of the specific stuff was a bit over my head
[22:12] <_marx_> so a _very good idea to have a forum post ready to go
[22:12] <cprofitt> that is why I had the forum area ready
[22:13] <cprofitt> thanks _marx_
[22:13] <_marx_> i think we can make use of that in future sessions
[22:13] <cprofitt> I think some courses benefit from it... that is for sure
[22:14] <cprofitt> Pendulum: will there be logs posted at some point?
[22:14] <Pendulum> cprofitt: should be. cjohnston and pleia2 have been handling those
[22:14] <pleia2> cprofitt: logs of your session are already posted
[22:14] <pleia2> at the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01232010/UbuntuEquivalentPrograms
[22:14] <cjohnston> cprofitt: pleia2 is all over this stuff
[22:14] <cjohnston> lol
[22:14] <pleia2> :)
[22:15] <cprofitt> thanks pleia2 -- added a link to that on the forum post
[22:15] <pleia2> sure thing
[22:15] <cjohnston> im glad pleia2 is all over the logs.. i dont feel like doing that today
[22:15] <cprofitt> already had and asnwered the first question on the forums
[22:16] <pleia2> hehe
[22:16] <cprofitt> I have to admit I was a bit worried about taking on such a broad topic, but it is one I am passionate about
[22:16] <cprofitt> specific use cases for the applications are really better for a session dedicated to those apps
[22:16] <cprofitt> but you know they would come up in a session like this
[22:16] <cprofitt> I have to run and eat dinner now...
[22:17] <_marx_> have some for me ;)
[22:17] <cprofitt> but if you have feedback on how to improve the IRC sessions I do I would be most appreciative of the feedback guys
[22:18] <cjohnston> pizza has been ordered
[22:18] <cjohnston> yay!
[22:18] <pleia2> yum yum
[22:18] <doctormo> pleia2: OK it's an intel raid system and it has 4 options, none of which are recover.
[22:19] <doctormo> pleia2: Delete Raid, Create Raid, Reset Raid and Exit
[22:19] <pleia2> doctormo: if you pull the bad disk, put in a new disk, and try to boot it - what does it do?
[22:19] <doctormo> pleia2: It shows 1 member disk and 1 non-raid disk
[22:20] <pleia2> ok, so somehow we need to get that disk in as a member
[22:20] <doctormo> pleia2: does the new disk have to be empty do you think?
[22:20] <pleia2> doctormo: shouldn't matter, it should wipe it
[22:20] <pleia2> doctormo: I'd look up what "reset raid" means, find some docs for the controller
[22:21] <pleia2> these things are never labeled well, that might be what you want, or it might mean "wipe all the data and make me cry"
[22:21] <mhall119> how did the rest of UUD go>
[22:22] <pleia2> mhall119: still going on! and good :)
[22:22] <Pendulum> mhall119: it's still going :)
[22:22] <doctormo> pleia2: Most of the options are cry
[22:22] <pleia2> doctormo: I hate hardware raid, even worse they don't tend to be faster than linux software raid these days, which has much less crying involved
[22:23] <mhall119> oh, I thought it ended by now
[22:23] <pleia2> mhall119: 4.5 more hours
[22:24] <mhall119> oh wow
[22:24] <pleia2> yeah, whose idea was it to make this so long anyway? :)
[22:24] <Pendulum> I think our volunteer teachers
[22:24]  * mhall119 blames cjohnston
[22:24] <Pendulum> they kept volunteering so cjohnston kept adding hours in to fit them ;)
[22:25] <pleia2> hehe
[22:26] <cjohnston> alot of people were complaining that it was geared towards US TZ..
[22:27] <cjohnston> so i kept adding to give as many people as possible a chance..
[22:27] <Pendulum> yeah, i'm hoping at some point we can get some people in Asia/Australia/NZ to do one the same day
[22:27] <cjohnston> if more people kept volunteering I was gonna do two 12 hours dupilcated
[22:27] <Pendulum> heh
[22:28] <doctormo> pleia2: This post doesn't fill me with joy: http://search.code-head.com/F-Raid-1-rebuild-ICH7-chipset-use-Matrix-Storage-Manager-2175591
[22:31] <doctormo> It looks like it can only be recovered using windows, by installing it to the new partition
[22:32] <pleia2> :(
[22:32] <mhall119> next UUD is gonna be 24 hours long, with one teacher in every timezone
[22:32] <hggdh> classroom-chats needs some ops now
[22:33] <cjohnston> hggdh: its hard to do anything
[22:33] <doctormo> pleia2: Although according to intel's own pages you can use mdadm from 2.6.27 upwards.
[22:36] <cjohnston> wtf
[22:37] <paultag> pleia2, I'm here. I'll be in the shower just before my block. I'll be here
[22:37] <paultag> BRB
[22:37] <pleia2> good :)
[22:37] <mhall119> what's the command to get ops in -chat?
[22:37] <cjohnston> same as in -classroom
[22:37] <cjohnston> :-P
[22:38] <mhall119> no BBQ for you
[22:38] <jcastro> am I the only personal spammed so far?
[22:38] <cjohnston> msg chanserv op chan
[22:38] <jcastro> because that would be awesome
[22:38] <_marx_> wow, this is the worst i've seen
[22:38] <paultag> Do you guys need OP help?
[22:38] <paultag> I'll op up if you want me in there
[22:39] <hggdh> jcastro: yes, you were selected to be the Most Spammed One (TM)
[22:39] <jcastro> awesome
[22:39] <paultag> cjohnston, I know how to op :P
[22:39] <cjohnston> lol
[22:39] <hggdh> one more line in the resume ;-)
[22:39] <doctormo> pleia2: But the ubuntu live cd doesn't see any md devices, perhaps there is some kernel module for imsm
[22:40] <_marx_> spam going by so fast i can't see the questions
[22:44] <cjohnston> pleia2: try -m?
[22:44] <cjohnston> its been a couple minutes
[22:46] <cjohnston> uggh
[22:47] <paultag> back
[22:47] <paultag> Classroom ops -- I can manage my own questions :)
[22:48] <pleia2> good to know :)
[22:49] <doctormo> pleia2: Ah looks like dmraid is the program to use, but I can't find out how to add a drive and it complains about the wrong number of devices.
[22:49] <pleia2> doctormo: ah interesting
[22:50] <doctormo> I wonder if it needs to be empty
[22:50] <doctormo> For the bios to flag it as a replacement
[22:51] <cjohnston> are yall good for a bit? family problems
[22:51] <pleia2> cjohnston: yep
[22:51] <Pendulum> cjohnston: go deal with that
[22:52]  * _marx_ will topic change
[22:52] <pleia2> I'll intro the next then
[22:53] <Pendulum> and paultag said he was going to handle his own questions, yes?
[22:53] <Pendulum> paultag: let us know if you need any help
[22:53] <pleia2> yep
[22:53] <paultag> Pendulum, Sure thing. I have it all set
[22:53] <paultag> I have my XChat fragmented. I can see chat while typing
[22:53] <paultag> :)
[22:54] <_marx_> paultag, wait on pleia2 to finish the er your intro
[22:54] <paultag> Sure thing
[22:56] <cprofitt> that raid does not look like real raid...
[22:57] <cprofitt> or at least not the hardware raid I have used
[22:57] <pleia2> cprofitt: I'm thinking it's cheap hardware raid, like dell perc controllers
[22:58] <pleia2> which calls itself hardware raid, but its just a kludge of software on top of a cheap controller
[22:58] <jcastro> perc = pray everything rebuilds correctly
[22:58] <pleia2> hehe
[22:58] <cprofitt> even perc controllers usually have a bios on the controller that allows you to set the raid up
[22:58] <cprofitt> I hate perc controllers though...
[22:59] <cprofitt> but any controller than requires windows to build the raid is the suck
[22:59] <pleia2> there is a raid bios from what doctormo said, but it's very very limited in functionality
[22:59] <pleia2> _marx_: ready?
[22:59] <pleia2> \o/
[23:00]  * _marx_ was waiting on 18:00
[23:00] <paultag> Good to go?
[23:01] <_marx_> hit it
[23:05] <_marx_> 14100 seconds to go ;)
[23:13] <paultag> heh
[23:15] <_marx_> t -45 and Hellow isn't here
[23:16] <pleia2> hmmm, he did blog about having internet issues
[23:16] <pleia2> now I'm worried :)
[23:17] <paultag> He is usually good about tha
[23:17] <paultag> the will find a line
[23:17] <pleia2> if not, is there anyone who can fill in? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01232010/PackageManagementBasics
[23:17] <paultag> The changes also pass through two trusted authorities, Debian and Ubuntu. As we are able to control exactly what goes into the packages, we can ensure that the packages are safe, and changes made are not malicious.
[23:18]  * pleia2 nudges paultag back to the proper channel
[23:18] <paultag> Shit! thanks :)
[23:18] <pleia2> :)
[23:18] <_marx_> lol!
[23:19] <pleia2> ok, I need a break from my monitor
[23:19] <Pendulum> okay
[23:19] <pleia2> bbiab :)
[23:29] <cjohnston> I'm back
[23:29] <cjohnston> sorry guys
[23:29] <cjohnston> How are we doing
[23:30] <Pendulum> fine
[23:30] <Pendulum> paultag wanted to do his own questions
[23:30] <Pendulum> so he's been doing that
[23:30] <Pendulum> pleia2 has gone to take a break from the computer
[23:30] <Pendulum> and that's about how it all stands
[23:30] <cjohnston> a break for Pendulum
[23:30] <_marx_> t -30 and Hellow isn't here yet
[23:30] <paultag> :)
[23:30] <cjohnston> Yay!
[23:30] <cjohnston> hows the spam
[23:31] <paultag> OK
[23:31] <paultag> a lot of CTCP static
[23:31] <cjohnston> uggh
[23:40]  * _marx_ wonders if shrini could move up an hour
[23:41] <cjohnston> why?
[23:41] <hggdh> cjohnston: he just wanted us to verify the folks on -charla were happy with the answers
[23:41] <_marx_> still no Hellow
[23:41] <cjohnston> lol hggdh
[23:41] <hggdh> :-)
[23:42] <_marx_> cjohnston, Hellow is up next and not around yet
[23:43] <_marx_> t -17
[23:43] <cjohnston> email said 15 minutes... so he still has 2
[23:43] <cjohnston> lol
[23:45] <starcraftman> I'm sure hellow will make it, and that's another topic I like, apt from the command line! :)
[23:46]  * _marx_ tries to stop worrying
[23:47] <starcraftman> _marx_: squeeze a stress ball?
[23:49] <_marx_> thx, breathing exercises too
[23:49] <starcraftman> not a super hard topic, ya could find someone to step in. I'd volunteer but I kinda thinking of going to game.
[23:49] <starcraftman> There's always my ready made apt guide for anyone to follow.
[23:49] <cjohnston> I think that we have pretty much succeeded, so im happy
[23:49] <cjohnston> lol
[23:50] <_marx_> he's got several things in his outline i wouldn't be able to cover well on short notice
[23:50] <starcraftman> _marx_: like?
[23:50] <_marx_> aptitude, never used it
[23:50] <starcraftman> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=500020
[23:50] <starcraftman> :)
[23:51] <starcraftman> I still remember writing that, excellent piece of work, needs some up to date love.
[23:51] <starcraftman> All still quite relevant.
[23:52] <starcraftman> aptitude just slightly different from apt-get, unless ya was meaning using the ncurses aptituded interface?
[23:53] <cjohnston> hey shrini
[23:53] <cjohnston> Can you possibly go on an hour early?
[23:53] <shrini> cjohnston: hei
[23:53] <shrini> cjohnston: sure
[23:53] <starcraftman> _marx_: oh dear.... http://hellow.posterous.com/death-to-my-connection < If you didn't see.
[23:53] <_marx_> i did
[23:53] <shrini> cjohnston: woke up so early :-)
[23:54] <shrini> cjohnston: at which time?
[23:54] <cjohnston> next
[23:54] <starcraftman> hi shrini, 5 minutes.
[23:54] <shrini> cjohnston: wow
[23:54] <cjohnston> I thought I had seen him since then
[23:54] <shrini> cjohnston: thats great
[23:54] <cjohnston> dunno
[23:54] <shrini> cjohnston: I am ready
[23:54] <cjohnston> We will give a couple more minutes..
[23:54] <shrini> cjohnston: just confirm me once again
[23:54] <starcraftman> shrini: I just wanted to say been waiting on your presentation. You going to cover handling sync conflicts with One?
[23:54] <shrini> cjohnston: sure
[23:56] <shrini> starcraftman: sure
[23:56] <_marx_> next would be nhandler on IRC do we need to see if he can move up as well?
[23:56] <pleia2> are you sure? the schedule has been widely repeated
[23:56] <paultag> I'll stall
[23:57] <cjohnston> _marx_: we can wait and see if by chance hellow shows up
[23:57] <_marx_> pleia2, we're missing Hellow
[23:57] <_marx_> right very good
[23:57] <pleia2> _marx_: I understand, but changing the schedule may upset people who come for shrini's presentation in an hour :(
[23:57] <cjohnston> pleia2: you wanna take a break?
[23:57] <pleia2> would probably be better to find some filler presentation
[23:57] <_marx_> indeed
[23:57] <cjohnston> whatcha fillin in on pleia2 ?
[23:57] <cjohnston> :-P
[23:57] <IdleOne> haha
[23:58] <pleia2> IdleOne is going to talk about apt!
[23:58] <IdleOne> I am?!
[23:58] <starcraftman> ha!
[23:58]  * starcraftman runs away before laugh gets him volunteered.
[23:58] <IdleOne> I mean starcraftman has them really nice wiki's and all he is way more prepared then my completely not prepared self :)
[23:58] <cjohnston> but he wants to go to the game
[23:59] <starcraftman> IdleOne: what hey? pleia2 clearly said IdleOne
[23:59] <IdleOne> game can wait
[23:59] <starcraftman> cjohnston: now your making me feel guilty!
[23:59] <IdleOne> this is UUD and more important
[23:59] <pleia2> that's how we got all our volunteers, guilt
[23:59] <starcraftman> pleia2: lol
[23:59] <cjohnston> its up to you bro.. please dont volunteer if you dont want to