[00:00] <Slart> i386? they still compile for that? I thought everything was at least 586 by now
[00:00] <escott> Slart, it is
[00:00] <riderplus> OmnipotentEntity cat /var/log/messages | fpaste
[00:00] <Slart> escott: ah.. thanks.. my faith in a proper world order is restored =)
[00:01] <OmnipotentEntity> riderplus, I don't have a /var/log/messages, did you want /var/log/syslog instead?
[00:01] <SonikkuAmerica> escott: I just got done retrofitting a Gateway 500 SE for Lubuntu 12.10
[00:01] <OmnipotentEntity> or dmesg?
[00:01] <SonikkuAmerica> and Slart: ^^
[00:02] <SonikkuAmerica> (Wow I hate typing the 1st name that comes to mind)
[00:02] <riderplus> yes /var/log/syslog and dmesg then
[00:02] <OmnipotentEntity> I don't seem to have fpaste either, what package is that in?
[00:02] <riderplus> sorry it was for fedora
[00:02] <riderplus> i forgot i'm on ubuntu
[00:02] <riderplus> :)
[00:02] <riderplus> go to pastebin.com and paste it there
[00:02] <OmnipotentEntity> I'll just paste bin it ;)  here's my /etc/network/interfaces:
[00:02] <OmnipotentEntity> http://pastebin.com/baJNau68
[00:02] <Slart> SonikkuAmerica: the memories.. amd k6 .. up to 256 mb of ram.. probably had a turbo button as well.. I'm getting off topic now, sorry =)
[00:04] <OmnipotentEntity> riderplus, dmesg: http://pastebin.com/QxajzYSb and tail -1000 syslog: http://pastebin.com/A3ksqt59
[00:04] <riderplus> OmnipotentEntity do you use networkmanager or wicd?
[00:05] <OmnipotentEntity> networkmanager I believe
[00:05] <OmnipotentEntity> I def don't use wicd
[00:07] <riderplus> why are you struggling with ipv6 do you really need it?
[00:07] <OmnipotentEntity> I'm unaware of my doing anything special to get ipv6, my ISP doesn't support it
[00:08] <Ben64> i'm wondering more about br0
[00:08] <OmnipotentEntity> I have this computer set up to act as a wifi access point.
[00:08] <OmnipotentEntity> It's working, but
[00:08] <OmnipotentEntity> it's not something that will come back after a reboot
[00:09] <OmnipotentEntity> which is why I'm fighting networking
[00:09] <Ben64> what?
[00:10] <ryan_turner> I have a new external harddrive that i just formatted using Disks in Ubuntu 12.10. It's formatted to FAT. I have it mounted, and when I try to access it to create/delete/transfer files etc, I get the error "The destination is read only"
[00:11] <riderplus> ryan_turner permission issues
[00:11] <ryan_turner> How do I resolve this permissions issue?
[00:11] <bwong> riderplus yeah its a 64bit...
[00:11] <bwong> riderplus i dont know why its looking for i386 normal.mod...
[00:11] <LarrySteeze> out of curiousity, anyone here attending scale?
[00:11] <riderplus> !chmod | ryan_turner
[00:12] <Ben64> riderplus: that won't work on fat
[00:12] <ryan_turner> riderplus, , I understand file permissions roughtly.
[00:12] <thec4ke>   OmnipotentEntity: does /etc/default/hostapd have RUN_DAEMON set to yes?
[00:12] <ryan_turner> I tried to chmod 077 /media/$me/$drive_name
[00:12] <ryan_turner> no errors, just didnt fix the problem.
[00:12] <ryan_turner> 0777*
[00:12] <Ben64> ryan_turner: chmod doesn't work on fat, do you need it as fat?
[00:12] <OmnipotentEntity> thec4ke, no, not yet.
[00:12] <riderplus> did you also chown -R youruser:youruser /mnt/yourdisk ??
[00:13] <thec4ke> you need to set that to yes to have hostapd started at every boot
[00:13] <escott> ryan_turner, ignore what riderplus is telling you. your disk is FAT it has no permissions
[00:13] <OmnipotentEntity> so just RUN_DAEMON=yes?
[00:13] <thec4ke> yes
[00:13] <bwong> ouch
[00:13] <ryan_turner> Ben64, escott, Im trying to use this as a 2tb external drive to transfer music between ubuntu desktop and mac laptop.
[00:13] <blkadder> ryan_turner: Perhaps it is mounted read only?
[00:13] <escott> ryan_turner, what is the output of "mount"
[00:13] <ryan_turner> NTFS a better options?
[00:13] <OmnipotentEntity> rebooting and seeing if it comes back all nice like
[00:14] <escott> ryan_turner, NTFS is non-POSIX so it has no Linux permissions
[00:14] <francesco_> riderplus: I made the usb, but still when I boot the laptop the usb blinks a few seconda and then I come to Grub rescue
[00:14] <bwong> cant solve this problem please help if available : http://askubuntu.com/questions/169600/fix-grub2-after-installing-ubuntu-12-04
[00:14] <Ben64> ryan_turner: if mac works with ext4 i'd use that, otherwise fat32 is the best for compatibility.
[00:14] <ryan_turner> Output of "mount": http://pastebin.com/smQsDNGj
[00:14] <AN7> does anyone know how to install ubuntu on a rooted android tablet?
[00:14] <ryan_turner> "Relliott" is the drive Im trying to use.
[00:15] <ryan_turner> Ben64, yeah osx does no ext2/3/4
[00:15] <blkadder> vfat...
[00:15] <escott> ryan_turner, the user named "ryan_turner" should be able to write to the folder /media/ryan_turner/Relliott. what is the output of "touch /media/ryan_turner/Relliott/test"
[00:15] <Ben64> ryan_turner: how did you mount it? it should have auto mounted
[00:16] <escott> bwong, boot is 386 mode. it doesn't enter long mode until the kernel starts
[00:16] <escott> bwong, unless you are using efi64 (which you arent)
[00:16] <ryan_turner> Ben64, I formatted it from NTFS to FAT using Disks. It auto mounted after that.
[00:17] <Ben64> ryan_turner: try unmounting it, unplugging it, and plugging it back in
[00:17] <ryan_turner> escott, nada. Just an empty line (aka it worked?)
[00:17] <riderplus> escott about permissions http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/miscellaneous/53527-cant-change-permissions-mounted-fat32-partition.html
[00:17] <escott> ryan_turner, yes it was successful
[00:17] <ryan_turner> And now there is
[00:17] <ryan_turner> -rw-r--r--  1 ryan_turner ryan_turner     0 Jan 16 18:17 test
[00:17] <ryan_turner> so, wth
[00:17] <riderplus> escott it's called "faking permissions"
[00:18] <ryan_turner> but back in the browser (nautilus is it?) I still cant make a directory, for instance
[00:18] <ryan_turner> or make a new doc
[00:18] <Ben64> riderplus: mount options are different than trying to chmod an already mounted fat32 system
[00:18] <escott> riderplus, you instructed him to chmod. there are no permissions to modify
[00:19] <riderplus> escott I didn't notice it was FAT
[00:19] <Ben64> ryan_turner: but you can see the file you just touched from nautilus?
[00:19] <escott> riderplus, the kernel maintains a single static unchangeable umask and owner for the mountpoint and all inodes in the mountpoint
[00:19] <riderplus> that link is helpful though
[00:19] <ryan_turner> Ben64, yes it is now there.
[00:19] <magn3ts> How do I get to the *Actual* network configuration panel instead of what All Settings -> Network gives me?
[00:19] <magn3ts> Since it's broken and miserable and useless
[00:19] <escott> riderplus, its not meant to be critical. i just saw its and cut him off before he went down the wrong path
[00:20] <bwong> solutions? anybody.
[00:20] <Ben64> ryan_turner: what if you right click the test file, and try editing it?
[00:20] <riderplus> escott yes my fault didn't see FAT
[00:20] <escott> bwong, sounds like your grub modules are not where they should be.
[00:20] <escott> bwong, reinstall grub?
[00:20] <ryan_turner> Ben64, opened it gedit, modified, and saved without error.
[00:21] <ryan_turner> Ben64, verified that it took the changes too.
[00:21] <Ben64> ryan_turner: ... then if you try to right click and create a new folder or something?
[00:21] <escott> ryan_turner, if you use another username that is not ryan_turner that user may be unable to modify the disk when ryan_turner was the one who opened it
[00:21] <ryan_turner> Error while copying to "Relliott". The destination is read only.
[00:22] <ryan_turner> escott, I have no other profiles on this computer
[00:22] <Ben64> i still think it's weird that it's mounted as vfat as opposed to fuse
[00:22] <Ben64> my fat32 external drives all come up as fuse
[00:22] <ryan_turner> Ben64, I've not been able to get any of my SD media to work either.
[00:22] <escott> Ben64, vfat is correct and normal? why would it be fuse
[00:22] <Ben64> escott: /dev/sdd1 on /media/94201C92201C7D84 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[00:22] <riderplus> someone edited the /etc/fstab with /dev/sdaX /windows/RW vfat rw,fat=32,umask=000,noexec,quiet 1 1
[00:22] <riderplus> and it worked
[00:22] <ryan_turner> I generally haven't been able to get nautilus to let me edit mounted stuff recently.
[00:23] <escott> Ben64, fuseblk is common for NTFS. is that NTFS or fat?
[00:23] <riderplus> where /windows/RW is the mount point
[00:23] <Ben64> i thought it was fat32....
[00:23] <riderplus> and /dev/sdX is the device
[00:23] <escott> Ben64, there is no reason to use a fuse driver for fat. its in kernel. for exfat or ntfs you might have a fuse driver
[00:23] <Ben64> /dev/sdd1   *          63     8027789     4013863+   7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT \\\\ my mistake, i must have changed it to ntfs at some point
[00:24] <escott> ryan_turner, what does "ps aux | grep nautilus" say
[00:24] <ryan_turner> I just did a sudo nautilus in terminal and launched it, of course there are no issues using nautilus under root. Any idea why nautilus is not getting the write or delete perm?
[00:24] <riderplus> ryan_turner try to edit /etc/fstab as I told you
[00:24] <escott> ryan_turner, (a) never sudo a gui program, (b) don't sudo nautilus, (c) thats probably what is going on
[00:24] <ryan_turner> escott, http://pastebin.com/ADunDrz9
[00:25] <escott> !gksudo | ryan_turner
[00:25] <riderplus> identify your device, choose a mountpoint and use those mount options
[00:25] <Ben64> why is nautilus running as "1000"
[00:25] <escott> ryan_turner, why is ps aux not printing your username?
[00:25] <blkadder> You have other issues ryan_turner...
[00:25] <ryan_turner> escott, I have no idea.
[00:25] <escott> ryan_turner, can you paste the contents of /etc/passwd please
[00:25] <ryan_turner> blkadder, point me in a direction :)
[00:26] <blkadder> UID to username mapping for one. :-)
[00:26] <Ben64> yeah definitely uid related problem
[00:26] <ryan_turner> Here's my passwd, escott: http://pastebin.com/6QTtCb0A
[00:26] <ryan_turner> e
[00:26] <ryan_turner> err 1000
[00:27] <Ben64> hmm
[00:27] <escott> ryan_turner, 1000 is the correct uid and matches the mount options for the fat disk, but ps should resolve 1000 to ryan_turner
[00:27] <blkadder> >8 char?
[00:27] <escott> ryan_turner, something is going on if it prints the numeric
[00:27] <ryan_turner> hrm
[00:28] <escott> blkadder, perhaps. ryan_turner can you ps aux and see if other usernames (namely root) are printed in the first column
[00:28] <ryan_turner> Ah
[00:28] <blkadder> Shouldn't be an issue but just thinking...
[00:28] <ryan_turner> "if it can be obtained and the field width permits"
[00:28] <ryan_turner> aka my username may be too long for ps to display it.
[00:29] <blkadder> Well do you see other names?
[00:29] <ryan_turner> root
[00:29] <ryan_turner> nobody
[00:29] <ryan_turner> yes :)
[00:29] <blkadder> Ok that's good.
[00:30] <ryan_turner> Errr
[00:30] <ryan_turner> ok
[00:30] <ryan_turner> I can delete files
[00:30] <ryan_turner> I just deleted the test file in nautilus
[00:30] <ryan_turner> but I cant create files or paste files in.
[00:30] <blkadder> But you can from the command line?
[00:31] <ryan_turner> yes.
[00:31] <riderplus> then it's nautilus
[00:31] <escott> ryan_turner, what is your locale
[00:31] <ryan_turner> en_US.UTF-8
[00:32] <ryan_turner> escott, ^^
[00:33] <escott> ryan_turner, yeah i saw... im fresh out of ideas
[00:33] <ryan_turner> damn
[00:33] <ryan_turner> This may or may not be related?
[00:33] <jrib> ryan_turner: press "reload" in nautilus
[00:33] <ryan_turner> about a week ago I rebooted
[00:33] <ryan_turner> display was all whacky
[00:33] <Gerowen> I have a desktop PC that I share with my wife. We have an external hard drive that is formatted in EXT4, and I created a user group that contains both of our usernames and has full permissions to the external drive. The problem is that if I log in first she is unable to browse the drive because even though she has permissions to the it, it gets automatically mounted in /media/marcus/Storage , which only my user account has permi
[00:33] <Gerowen> ssion to view.  Is there a way to change the default mounting location of removable devices from /media/username to just /media?
[00:33] <ryan_turner> and no USB would work once it hit the login screen
[00:33] <ryan_turner> power was still there, but none of the ports were resonsive anymore
[00:33] <escott> ryan_turner, likely  something else
[00:33] <ryan_turner> Did recovery, ended up running off an older kernel
[00:34] <ryan_turner> that resolved the problem
[00:34] <ryan_turner> ok.
[00:34] <blkadder> ryan_turner: Do you have usbmount installed?
[00:34] <ryan_turner> usbmount: command not found
[00:34] <ryan_turner> no idea other than that.
[00:34] <escott> ryan_turner, so naut complains it is read-only. but you could touch a file right now correct? (without removing/replugging the usb disk)
[00:34] <ryan_turner> escott, yep.
[00:34] <ryan_turner> blkadder, no usbmount is not installed.
[00:34] <jrib> Gerowen: huh.  I wonder when that got implemented.
[00:34] <escott> Gerowen, add it to fstab
[00:34] <escott> jrib, 12.10
[00:34] <ryan_turner> jrib, how do I press reload.
[00:35] <jrib> ryan_turner: view -> reload.  Check the menus.
[00:35] <Gerowen> I never noticed it in 12.04, and I was going to add it in /etc/fstab, but I'd like to change that behavior for "all" removable devices so I don't have to worry about it in the future.
[00:35] <ryan_turner> jrib, Ok. Didnt resolve.
[00:35] <escott> Gerowen, "sudo blkid" and find the UUID for the disk, then create an entry like the one for "/" in fstab but with /media/Storage as the mountpoint and the final numbers should both be zero
[00:35] <escott> Gerowen, and of course change the UUID
[00:36] <ryan_turner> blkadder, should i install usbmount?
[00:36] <escott> Gerowen, its a needed security feature when dealing with FAT/NTFS disks
[00:37] <Gerowen> escott: I've formatted in in ext4, but if that's the reason the behavior was implemented it's not the end of the world, I can work around it.
[00:37] <Gerowen> it*
[00:37] <jrib> ryan_turner: so what touch command can you execute ok on the drive to create a file?
[00:37] <ryan_turner> jrib, ryan_turner@ryan-turner-desktop:~$ touch /media/ryan_turner/Relliott/test2
[00:37] <jirido> Hi can i add any flag to: sudo dpkg --get-selections > installed-software, to get a list with only manually installed packages without dependencies or originally installed packages in it?
[00:37] <escott> ryan_turner, you can dmesg | tail just to make sure that nothing funky is going on with the disk, but it sounds like naut is having some weird issues
[00:38] <blkadder> ryan_turner: No.
[00:38] <jrib> jirido: try apt-mark or use the aptitude command that ubottu tells you when you /msg ubottu !clone
[00:38] <ryan_turner> escott, here's the result: http://pastebin.com/qwbhRq2W
[00:39] <jirido> ok
[00:39] <Ben64> ryan_turner: could you use nautilus to create a folder in your home directory, then "ls -ln" it
[00:39] <nybbler> Is it possible to install 12.04, add apps & drivers, & remaster to DVD-R?
[00:39] <escott> !remaster | nybbler
[00:39] <jrib> !uck | nybbler
[00:39] <ryan_turner> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/kuQ9tbMu
[00:40] <Ben64> ryan_turner: i meant so we could see the folder, not the contents
[00:40] <ryan_turner> ok
[00:40] <Ben64> i'm just wondering if nautilus is trying something strange in creating files/folders
[00:40] <ryan_turner> Ben64, drwxrwxr-x   2 1000 1000        4096 Jan 16 18:39 test_naut
[00:41] <Ben64> hmm that looks fine
[00:41] <ErdMutter> Is there a Ubuntu IRC for Macbook Pro owners?
[00:41] <Ben64> ErdMutter: if you're running ubuntu, we don't care which hardware it is on :)
[00:41] <robman> morning all
[00:41] <Lofde_> what command can i run from linux to see all of the processes and memory usage.. i have used it before but my mind has gone blank
[00:42] <ErdMutter> Ben64, I am looking for help with installation.
[00:42] <ryan_turner> Lofde_, top
[00:42] <Ben64> Lofde_: top, htop, atop, ps aux, free -m
[00:42] <jrib> !mac | ErdMutter
[00:42] <Lofde_> ryan_turner, thats it thank you :)
[00:42] <ryan_turner> Lofde_, np!
[00:44] <jrib> ryan_turner: and then when you try to edit /media/ryan_turner/Relliott/test2 with gedit say, what happens?
[00:44] <robman> heya...I got a dumb sys admin question - need to upgrade libcaptcha-recaptcha-perl on a 10.04LTS box but can't seem to find any ppa's - any tips on how to do that easily?
[00:44] <escott> robman, upgrade the OS
[00:44] <robman> har
[00:45] <robman> we will do but not right this second
[00:45] <robman> any other tips
[00:45] <escott> robman, compile from source is your only other option
[00:45] <robman> 8( ok...thnx
[00:46] <ryan_turner> jrib, works fine
[00:46] <ryan_turner> I cant right click and make a new document
[00:46] <jrib> ryan_turner: can you rename the file in nautilus?
[00:46] <ryan_turner> but if I try to edit the touched file, its fine.
[00:46] <ryan_turner> jrib, yes.
[00:47] <ryan_turner> cant copy and paste files in
[00:47] <ryan_turner> cant drag and drop fiels in
[00:47] <ryan_turner> files*
[00:47] <ryan_turner> cant right click create folders or files
[00:47] <jrib> ryan_turner: and you pressed reload while in that directory?
[00:47] <ryan_turner> yep, just did it again
[00:47] <ryan_turner> view -> reload
[00:47] <jrib> ryan_turner: go up a directory and press reload
[00:47] <ryan_turner> ok
[00:47] <ryan_turner> want me to try to edit again?
[00:48] <ryan_turner> err create**
[00:48] <jrib> ryan_turner: yes, try to create a file inside the directory you were in before
[00:48] <ryan_turner> the destination is read-only.
[00:48] <qwiksilver711> using a laptop with nvidia 555m trying to use dual monitor laptop screen with external monitor via hdmi
[00:48] <qwiksilver711> its not  detecting
[00:48] <jrib> ryan_turner: when you right click on the directory, what permissions does it show you?
[00:48] <bean> qwiksilver711: and you have the driver installed?
[00:49] <ryan_turner> Owner ryan_turner folder access create and delete files, file access --
[00:49] <blkadder> ryan_turner: umount /dev/sde1; mount -t vfat /dev/sde1 /media/ryan_turner/Relliott -o rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000,dmask=0000
[00:49] <ryan_turner> Group ryan_turner folder access none, file access --
[00:49] <ryan_turner> Others folder access none, file access ---
[00:49] <qwiksilver711> bean: yes i do, it caused some resolution issues on the laptop screen but i fixed those
[00:50] <riderplus> blkadder yeah when i suggested that it was of no good
[00:50] <ryan_turner> blkadder, going to try; gotta sudo
[00:50] <blkadder> riderplus: Did he do it?
[00:50] <ryan_turner> mount: mount point /media/ryan_turner/Relliott does not exist
[00:50] <riderplus> he should have done it in the first place
[00:50] <qwiksilver711> any suggestions?
[00:50] <ryan_turner> so mkdir it?
[00:51] <riderplus> yes ryan_turner mkdir
[00:51] <blkadder> Yes.
[00:51] <ryan_turner> as sudo?
[00:51] <ryan_turner> or regular user.
[00:51] <blkadder> sudo
[00:51] <craigbass1976> is there a way to browse through the software repository and sort by keyword, then popularity?
[00:51] <blkadder> We can always change owner/permissions later...
[00:51] <escott> blkadder, udisks will nuke the mountpoint when it is unmounted
[00:51] <craigbass1976> Software Center ^^ sorry
[00:52] <qwiksilver711> using a laptop with nvidia 555m trying to use dual monitor laptop screen with external monitor via hdmi
[00:52] <blkadder> Sorry wasn't sure how he was mounting it...
[00:52] <ryan_turner> blkadder, ok, unmounted and remounted as per your command
[00:52] <blkadder> I am a little old school when it comes to these thing.
[00:52] <ryan_turner> now create folder and document are greyed out in nautilus
[00:52] <ryan_turner> did view->reload
[00:52] <ryan_turner> went back to read only error
[00:53] <blkadder> ryan_turner: please pastebin the output of mount
[00:53] <riderplus> i'd kill nautilus if i were you ^^
[00:53] <blkadder> riderplus: I think I agree.
[00:53] <riderplus> literally
[00:53] <jrib> ryan_turner: out of curiosity, can you create files *anywhere* (for example in your home) using nautilus?
[00:53] <ryan_turner> blkadder, heres mount's output: http://pastebin.com/iADd9C77
[00:53] <riderplus> nautilus -HUP
[00:53] <ryan_turner> jrib, just made a doc in my home./
[00:54] <ryan_turner> no problem
[00:54] <jrib> ryan_turner: ok
[00:54] <ryan_turner> should I -HUP it? :)
[00:54] <ryan_turner> Could not parse arguments: Unknown option -HUP
[00:54] <riderplus> nautilus -q
[00:54] <blkadder> sudo nautilis -q
[00:54] <blkadder> Sorry spelling.
[00:55] <ryan_turner> ok did that
[00:55] <ryan_turner> what now?
[00:55] <blkadder> Well, is stuff still greyed out?
[00:56] <escott> ryan_turner, make sure its dead "ps aux | grep nautilus" then open naut again
[00:56] <ryan_turner> ...  My problem persist. Even if I used live USB creator to create a USB stick with bootable Ubuntu, when I boot my laptop I get only grub rescue. The pen drive blinks, but then nothing happens and then I see grub rescue. Is there a way to change the MBR from grub rescue?
[01:01] <riderplus> francesco_ well, let's put it the stupid way: did you change the boot device order in bios?
[01:01] <escott> !bluray
[01:01] <escott> Hilikus, see ^^^^
[01:01] <escott> francesco_, what is the bios configured to boot first?
[01:02] <francesco_> yes. and I have also another problem. I don't know why, I can't access the bios every time, but the message "press f2 or f12" appears only from time to time, so don't ask me what is the exact order after the USB. I managed once to enter the bios and put the USB as 1st, but I don't remember what was following.
[01:04] <riderplus> now if you have BIOS issues..i'm out of ideas
[01:04] <pepee> is anyone having problems with USB ports, and DVD recorders?
[01:05] <escott> francesco_, you have to make a ritual sacrifice before entering the bios. are you doing that?
[01:05] <riderplus> lol
[01:06] <pepee> I'm getting "exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen" from TWO different DVD burners :/
[01:06] <escott> francesco_, being serious now. they will give you about a nano-second between initializing the keyboard and displaying the post on screen to allow you to hit the key. best bet is to hit is repeatedly and as quickly as possible
[01:07] <dcope> Anyone know why Ubuntu would be reporting the wrong size TV when connected via hdmi?
[01:07] <Hilikus> is there a guide to install win7 so that i don't lose grub/ubuntu?
[01:07] <francesco_> I googled my problem all yesterday and saw that many people can't access their bios in their lenovo laptops
[01:07] <riderplus> i wonder if he has two usb entries like i have in BIOS ...
[01:07] <qwiksilver711> having problems running a second monitor on my laptop with 12.04
[01:07] <pepee> Hilikus, reinstall grub after installing windows
[01:08] <qwiksilver711> am i stuck with bumblebee?
[01:08] <pepee> dcope, that depends on the graphics driver
[01:08] <pepee> qwiksilver711, same as ^
[01:08] <Hilikus> pepee: how can i do that from windows?
[01:08] <pepee> Hilikus, AFAIK you can't, but you can use the same live cd to reinstall grub
[01:09] <dcope> pepee: i'm just using Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[01:09] <dcope> should be pretty standard
[01:09] <passenger> hello
[01:09] <qwiksilver711> I have installed the nvidia driver
[01:10] <pepee> dcope, I'd ask in #intel-gfx
[01:10] <Sylphie> hello passenger
[01:10] <pepee> hi passenger
[01:10] <francesco_> riderplus: I have 2 usb entries in BIOS, but I know which one I put first
[01:10] <qwiksilver711> I assume bumblebee would work?
[01:10] <riderplus> francesco_ yeah I guessed so
[01:11] <riderplus> I'm 60% sure it's hdd usb
[01:11] <pepee> qwiksilver711, try #nvidia
[01:11] <bumblebee> Yeah, I work... :)
[01:11] <pepee> heh
[01:12] <francesco_> riderplus: what I find strange is that I should be able from grub rescue to see the grub file in my pen drive, but I'm not.
[01:12] <escott> dcope, the TV may be lying in the edid information
[01:12] <pepee> dcope, also, run xrandr in the console
[01:13] <riderplus> francesco_ your problem is with the boot device order...you need to set the right USB flash first
[01:13] <riderplus> otherwise it won't boot your USB
[01:13] <riderplus> it shouldn't boot any grub rescue crap
[01:14] <francesco_> riderplus: I'll try to access the bios again and put both usb at the top of the order, followed by dvd and then all the hard disks
[01:14] <francesco_> riderplus: but is there anything I can do from the stupid grub rescue?
[01:14] <riderplus> francesco_ ok try both USB-s and see which one boots up
[01:14] <riderplus> francesco_ no, leave that out
[01:15] <riderplus> francesco_ focus on what you can do
[01:15] <BroUnicorn> Okay guys
[01:15] <BroUnicorn> How do I install ubuntu on a windows laptop
[01:15] <BroUnicorn> dual boot that is
[01:15] <riderplus> one of the USBs must boot francesco_
[01:15] <BroUnicorn> trying to do it for a friends
[01:15] <BroUnicorn> friend*
[01:15] <FloodBot1> BroUnicorn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:16] <riderplus> BroUnicorn insert the Ubuntu disk and follow the instructions
[01:16] <escott> BroUnicorn, well you stick the disk into the CD slot, and you reboot...
[01:16] <blkadder> BroUnicorn: Would you like a pointer to Let me google that for you?
[01:16] <escott> BroUnicorn, maybe some part of this isn't working and you want to ask us a specific question about what is not working?
[01:17] <dcope> pepee: ok, what am i looking for in xrandr?
[01:17] <BroUnicorn> No, just after having issues with it not correctly creating a partition on my computer I want to make sure not to mess up my friends computer
[01:17] <escott> dcope, it will show all the screensizes that have been auto-configured
[01:17] <pepee> dcope, the supported resolutions
[01:17] <BroUnicorn> because he does not have dual boot. He only has windows, so if it messes up windows he loses it
[01:17] <dcope> escott: it claims 1920x1080 is there
[01:17] <riderplus> BroUnicorn you can't mess it up
[01:17] <dcope> escott: but when i use that resolution i can barely see the sidebar on the left
[01:18] <escott> dcope, does it have a * next to the 1080 resolution
[01:18] <BroUnicorn> riderplus: False, it totally screwed mine up
[01:18] <escott> dcope, thats called overscan
[01:18] <riderplus> BroUnicorn the ubuntu installer is pretty clear on what it does
[01:18] <blkadder> riderplus: You sure you want to throw down the gauntlet like that?
[01:18] <dcope> escott: nope, it has a + next to it. the * is next to 1400x1050
[01:18] <BroUnicorn> riderplus: Right, until it throws an install error and messes up your partition table
[01:18] <escott> dcope, you might be able to disable overscan correction in the TV itself or you can modify the +h +v in the modeline with xrandr to fix it manually
[01:18] <BroUnicorn> riderplus: lol I'm just making sure I don't mess it up
[01:18] <riderplus> BroUnicorn that might be your fault, not ubuntu's
[01:18] <BroUnicorn> riderplus: So I don't have to priorly make sure there is free space that isn't attached to the windows partition?
[01:19] <escott> dcope, then the resolution you are currently using is the 1050. ctrl-alt-+ maybe increases you to the 1080 resolution... i always use the gui
[01:19] <dcope> escott: cool, ill try on the tv
[01:19] <Sylphie> of course, it's never the fault of the too many chefs
[01:19] <riderplus> well, you MUST be sure you have free space
[01:19] <BroUnicorn> riderplus: It says he has free space, but it's attached to his windows partition
[01:19] <BroUnicorn> Do I have to unpartition it from his windows drive first?
[01:20] <blkadder> BroUnicorn: Then you need to repartition.
[01:20] <BroUnicorn> blkadder: See, that's what I was trying to ask lol. How do I do that on a windows?
[01:20] <blkadder> Use a gparted boot disk or something...
[01:20] <riderplus> partition magic
[01:20] <escott> BroUnicorn, you should do the resizing of the windows partition from the livecd or the installer
[01:20] <riderplus> but back up your data
[01:20] <riderplus> if you have any...
[01:20] <BroUnicorn> From the ubuntu livecd?
[01:20] <blkadder> Yes, please backup first.
[01:21] <riderplus> yes you can use the ubuntu livecd
[01:21] <riderplus> just be careful when you repartition
[01:21] <BroUnicorn> How would I repartition his windows from the ubuntu lived? I don't want to mess with the partition table on the advanced options.
[01:21] <BroUnicorn> That's how mine got messed up
[01:22] <qwiksilver711> is there any way to make nvidia optimus cards function with a second monitor
[01:22] <usr13> BroUnicorn: Was your win7?
[01:22] <riderplus> that's why it's better to have at least two partitions...always
[01:22] <BroUnicorn> usr13: Yes
[01:22] <escott> BroUnicorn, you could do the "install alongside" and have ubuntu do it automatically, or you could use the installer gui (which I hate) or you could use gparted in the livecd
[01:22] <usr13> BroUnicorn: How did you mess it up?
[01:23] <BroUnicorn> usr13: The installer threw me an error, but I think it's because all of the memory was either partitioned to windows or osx
[01:23] <BroUnicorn> then it tried to install ubuntu alongside it, threw an error, then popped up the partition table
[01:24] <riderplus> was it windows or osx? that's important
[01:24] <escott> BroUnicorn, the OSX business is going to make things confusing. you should setup the bootcamp for linux from mac
[01:24] <BroUnicorn> escott: So doing the automatic install alongside will automatically repartition it making room on his windows?
[01:24] <usr13> BroUnicorn: Well, just wondering.  I've done it a number of times and haven't had a problem yet.
[01:24] <escott> BroUnicorn, because you probably have a hybrid partition table... and its very possible ubuntu picks the wrong one to mess  with
[01:24] <riderplus> me 2
[01:24] <BroUnicorn> escott: I'm doing this on my friends windows. I've figured out my computer already. So I just need to make sure I'm doing the windows correctly
[01:24] <ae86-drifter> hey there, my system specs are 4GB ddr800, gtx 640 1gb, 2x160GB hdd, quad core cpu(q6600), I was thinking of doing a software raid0, how much of a performance gain will i get for hdd r/w?
[01:24] <BroUnicorn> escott: So on a windows all I have to do is put in the live-cd and let it automatically do its thing?
[01:25] <riderplus> BroUnicorn choose to install ubuntu alongside
[01:25] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: If anyone claims they know, they are most likely confused.
[01:25] <escott> ae86-drifter, a bit less than 2x
[01:25] <BroUnicorn> riderplus: Okay
[01:25] <Sylphie> ae86-drifter \ software raid, little gain, possibly run slower
[01:25] <riderplus> but it's windows, not osx i hope
[01:25] <escott> BroUnicorn, im confused as to what computer you are talking about. does this have OSX or not?
[01:25] <riderplus> if it's osx you'll screw it up
[01:25] <ae86-drifter> always get mixed answers, lol...
[01:26] <BroUnicorn> escott: It does not. It's a windows.
[01:26] <BroUnicorn> escott: Windows 7 specifically that we want to boot alongside
[01:26] <Sylphie> ae86-drifter \ with software  raid it's duplicating writes through a controller which will still have the same bandwidth
[01:26] <riderplus> BroUnicorn then you shouldn't have any issues...
[01:26] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: It is largely dependent on the disk, the workloads involved, etc. There isn't one right answer.
[01:26] <blkadder> It is a trick question. :-)
[01:26] <ae86-drifter> Sylphie: are you sure about that?
[01:26] <dylan> I need to convert .mkv files to something else like a .mp4.  How do I do that?
[01:27] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: theyre seagate 7,200rpm's
[01:27] <riderplus> dylan find a suitable converter
[01:27] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: You can tell me and it won't help in the slightest. :-) I am just giving you some variables, not an indication I have a clue.
[01:27] <Sylphie> ae86-drifter \ that's how software raid works, each write the OS wants to do it written multiple times to multiple disks. Problem is, it's using the same diskcontroller and does those multiple writes sequentially
[01:27] <ae86-drifter> my understanding is that it will consume CPU, which is what i am worried about
[01:28] <dylan> riderplus:  Was asking if anyone knew a good one.
[01:28] <riderplus> dylan http://lmgtfy.com/?q=convert+mkv+to+mp4+ubuntu
[01:28] <blkadder> Slyphie: Not RAID-0 (striping) I believe...
[01:28] <MonkeyDust> dylan  ffmpag or avconv
[01:28] <blkadder> Although software raid might be different.
[01:28] <MonkeyDust> dylan  ffmpeg or avconv
[01:28] <escott> Sylphie, are sata controllers not capable of accessing different disks synchronously?
[01:28] <ae86-drifter> Sylphie: i think you're thinking of RAID 1 ??
[01:29] <usr13> dylan: http://askubuntu.com/questions/50433/how-to-convert-mkv-file-into-mp4-file-losslessly
[01:30] <Sylphie> ae86-drifter \ which software raid were you thinking of?
[01:31]  * riderplus goes to sleep
[01:31] <ae86-drifter> Sylphie: I haven't decided, doing research atm..
[01:31] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: Also, are there only two disks in your system? If so doing raid-0 on them is a pretty bad idea unless you are really good about backups and are willing to rebuild everything if you lose a single drive.
[01:31] <ae86-drifter> Sylphie: I am leaning towards mdadm...
[01:32] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: the only thing i am worried about losing in my ssh keys which i have a backup of
[01:32] <ae86-drifter> i don't care about my data, i have enough backups
[01:32] <Sylphie> ae86-drifter \ hardware raid isn't too hard to buy
[01:32] <escott> Sylphie, really?!
[01:32] <ae86-drifter> Sylphie: get my IT dept to approve it then, lol.
[01:33] <RollinV2> cloud storage
[01:33] <dylan> thanks usr13!
[01:33] <Sylphie> SAS raid controllers can handle SATA drives
[01:33] <escott> Sylphie, i guess technically its not hard to buy them... but they are still crazy expensive
[01:33] <blkadder> LOL
[01:33] <Sylphie> a surplus SAS controller can be relatively affrdable on ebay
[01:34] <blkadder> escott: For sata drives?
[01:34] <blkadder> A number of MBs have raid support built-in these days...
[01:34] <blkadder> And it is anything but expensive.
[01:34] <escott> blkadder, which is not real RAID
[01:34] <ae86-drifter> Sylphie: I would if it was my personal machine :) but I'm not going to spend money on this, it was hard enough gettting them to approve a gtx 640
[01:34] <blkadder> Oh that tired argument.
[01:35] <blkadder> Well let's just say that the "fake RAID" provided by such solutions has served me well. :-)
[01:36] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: my motherboard doesn't hence why i wanna use software raid, i have never done software raid, but I have done hardware raid close to 100 times or more.
[01:38] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: Understood. I'm just saying that no one is going to be able to tell you what sort of performance improvement (if any) you are going to see. That is something you will have to test for yourself. People may claim to know, and they are generally confused. :-)
[01:39] <Sylphie> thee is a lsi sas controller on ebay right now for 29.95 buy-now
[01:40] <th3pun15h3r> has anyone tried using those ethernet av kits for internet instead of wifi?
[01:41] <rob_p> ethernet av kit?
[01:41] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ sounds interesting, could you describe?
[01:41] <blkadder> You mean powerline?
[01:42] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: yeah okay, i've only ever done RAID1,5 &6, never RAID0 also have never done software RAID, do you think that there will be bottlenecks in the SATA controller or my CPU? i'm thinking CPU as q6600 is a POS
[01:42] <th3pun15h3r> dude q6600 still a good cpu
[01:42] <th3pun15h3r> I use a q6700 still
[01:43] <ae86-drifter> th3pun15h3r: q6600 is rubbish
[01:43] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ so you do mean powerline ethernet
[01:43] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: My understanding of software RAID as it pertains to Linux in general is that the CPU hit is pretty minimal these days.
[01:43] <blkadder> So I wouldn't be overly-concerned about it.
[01:43] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ how would you go about setting that up for outside internet connection?
[01:45] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ so you'd want to connect to the lan-side of her outside connection?
[01:46] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: But I'd seriously consider spending $50 or $100 or whatever and getting a SSD for a boot drive and then striping the spindles. That is most likely going to smoke anything you are going to do with simply RAID-0'ing the two drives you have.
[01:47] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ if so, that's what powerline ethernet is designed for
[01:47] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ yes, that could work
[01:48] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ true. the only way you can tell about line quality is to actually try it
[01:48] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: yeah, i know, lol, my home computer has an ssd boot drive, my manager wont approve it for my work machine
[01:49] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: i'm trying for performance for $0
[01:49] <th3pun15h3r> brb
[01:49] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ firber optic from your isp won't help your connection problems between rooms
[01:49] <escott> ae86-drifter, if the choice is between RAID0 and non-raid... RAID0 should be faster
[01:49] <ae86-drifter> was hoping to speak to someone who has done it before on 12.10
[01:49] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: Tough boss. You should talk to them about the performance improvements associated with being able to boot and access business-related data faster. :-)
[01:50] <ae86-drifter> escott: yeah, that's correct, but i am worried about it impacting my CPU too much
[01:51] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: I already have a 2nd machine which is an i7, 8gb ram etc, the problem is, it must remain windows 7
[01:51] <ae86-drifter> so i wantto make my linux machine a beast
[01:51] <escott> ae86-drifter, the slower memory performance of a ddr2 system isn't going to help, but you were already facing that
[01:52] <ae86-drifter> escott: I assumed that would be irrelevant to hdd r/w speeds
[01:52] <escott> ae86-drifter, the big problem with RAID0 is having to split/zip those memory blocks as they go on/come off the disk
[01:52] <ae86-drifter> in my case
[01:53]  * th3pun15h3r hates raid
[01:53] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ fiber optic from your isp won't help your connection problems between rooms. But have you considered being a home handyman and laying down a length of normal ethernet cable?
[01:53] <BroUnicorn> Okay guys
[01:53] <BroUnicorn> So I'm trying to install ubuntu on my friends windows
[01:53] <escott> ae86-drifter, the disk is slow enough that the CPU shouldn't have any trouble processing the actual requests
[01:53] <ae86-drifter> okay cool
[01:54] <ae86-drifter> i'm going to do a benchmark before and after software raid on 12.10
[01:54] <BroUnicorn> It came to a menu after clicking install, but the install alongside option wasn't given
[01:54] <ae86-drifter> and hdd benchmark tools recommended?
[01:54] <pi__> Hello, from my raspberry pi
[01:54] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: If I understand you correctly, you are saying the hard drive needs to remain Windows 7. :-)
[01:55] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ a tapemeasure would give you a rough idea
[01:55] <escott> blkadder, on the other machine
[01:55] <blkadder> escott: I understand...
[01:55] <KBentley57> hey guys, in light of the recent Java bug, oracle patched the jre up to version 7u11.  The repos show that ubuntu is on 7u9.  Is there any plans to roll out a java update for Ubuntu any time soon?
[01:56] <escott> ae86-drifter, bonnie++ comes to mind... but thats cause its the only one i can remember
[01:56] <escott> KBentley57, you shouldn't even have Oracle Java from ubuntu anymore
[01:56] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: no, i have 2 pc's one linux , one windows
[01:56] <Sylphie> KBentley57 \ the DHS says even 7u11 still has undixed bugs so they aren't unsaying their warning
[01:56] <escott> KBentley57, they arent allowed to distribute oracle java. you must be getting it from a PPA or something
[01:56] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: I understand and my point still stands.
[01:57] <ae86-drifter> escott: I had to use oracle version because the open one kept crashing, lol... I needed it to do my job
[01:57] <KBentley57> escott, Sylphie, perhaps I'm mistaken.  Is the openjdk in ubuntu based on oracle's release, or is it based on something different?
[01:57] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: Is the windows machine locked down? Are you prevented from booting from USB, etc.?
[01:57] <escott> KBentley57, the other way around oracle/sun java7 is based on openJDK
[01:58] <Sylphie> KBentley57 \ it's the jre package you have to worry about
[01:58] <escott> KBentley57, but it was originally a whiteroom implementation
[01:58] <escott> iirc
[01:58] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: installing linux on that machine is NOT an option, rofl...
[01:58] <KBentley57> Ah I see, thanks for clearing that up.
[01:58] <ae86-drifter> i would potentially lose my job
[01:58] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: I did not say anything about installing Linux on it.
[01:58] <ae86-drifter> i could if i wanted to, but that's beside the point
[01:58] <blkadder> I asked if you are able to boot from USB?
[01:58] <blkadder> Actually it isn't.
[01:58] <xangua>  Sylphie escott so there should be no problems if i use the openjdk plugin for the browser¿
[01:59] <KBentley57> So, the security hole that was introduced somewhere in oracles altering of the openjdk?
[01:59] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: what would i use that machine for then?
[01:59] <escott> BroUnicorn, if you select the "try ubuntu first" option and then run "sudo parted -l" and send that to us it would help
[01:59] <BroUnicorn> Okay, what will that do?
[01:59] <BroUnicorn> escott: Thank you for the response by the way
[01:59] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: yes, they both boot from usb....
[01:59] <Sylphie> xangua \ right now I wouldn't use any java until there is a safe version
[01:59] <blkadder> Boot from USB, enjoy all the power for your Ubuntu needs and point storage to your q6600 machine.
[01:59] <escott> xangua, some of these java vulnerabilities were fundamental API issues was my understanding.
[02:00] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: what are you getting at? i dont understand..
[02:00] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: that is not an option, as i said before, lol...
[02:00] <escott> KBentley57, the reported problems were for java6 which is not a common codebase with openjdk
[02:00] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: Do you understand that you can boot from a USB device without touching the disk on a host machine?
[02:01] <KBentley57> escott, I was under the impression that it was java7 that was the culprit
[02:01] <blkadder> Meaning you can use your Windows box to boot Linux without altering anything on the windows box?
[02:01] <escott> KBentley57, but some (not all) of the problems are API issues and would affect any java implementation
[02:01] <Sylphie> KBentley57 \ so far there has never been a completely secure version of java
[02:01] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: i'm completely aware of that
[02:01] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: i'm not an idiot
[02:01] <KBentley57> Understandable, it's impossible to have a completely secure version of any nontrivial software package really
[02:02] <escott> KBentley57, that was my reading about 6 months ago... the new one could be different, my eyes have glazed over WRT java vulns
[02:02] <Sylphie> KBentley57 \ it's just that in 7u-whatever, the security holes are too major to ignore
[02:02] <ae86-drifter> there is a such thing as company policies
[02:02] <escott> BroUnicorn, allow us to see how the disk is partition
[02:02] <KBentley57> http://tinyurl.com/cvw6ghy
[02:02] <blkadder> ae86-drifter: Then why do you keep referring to "installing Linux" not being an option, given that we aren't discussing installing anything?
[02:03] <ae86-drifter> as i was trying to explain to you before - it is not an option..
[02:03] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: shhh
[02:03] <blkadder> LOL
[02:03] <BroUnicorn> How do I open a terminal on ubuntu on windows?
[02:03] <KBentley57> inside a virtual maching Bronie?
[02:04] <Dammit> question - is there a .exe installer available for ubuntu? i can only find the .iso on the website. thx.
[02:04] <xangua> BroUnicorn: control+alt-t
[02:04] <bumblebee> ctrl+alt+t
[02:04] <pinkpelican> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu onto a computer.
[02:04] <pinkpelican> I'm trying a live USB, but the grub only recognizes the previous Windows installation.
[02:05] <Sylphie> Dammit \ you mean something like wubi?
[02:05] <ae86-drifter> i have a windows PC for a reason, i need to use it, just like i have a linux PC, i have to use it, lol simple as that, not to mention it is against the companies policy and i may get fired for running unauthorized software, let alone another OS, where as with my linux machine i can do whatever i want to. do you understand now?
[02:05] <BroUnicorn> escott: Okay, I did that
[02:05] <lee8oi> The E17 desktop is hands down the most fun I've had customizing in a long time.
[02:05] <BroUnicorn> escott: sudo parted -l
[02:05] <Dammit> @sylphie -yes. exactly.
[02:05] <escott> KBentley57, CVE-2013-0422 is a java7 and probably also affects openJDK.. the whole reflection API is just getting torn apart by white hats these days
[02:05] <ae86-drifter> linux doesnt have active directory, exchange etc so i will need windows unfortunaelty
[02:06] <ae86-drifter> for my job
[02:06] <escott> !paste | BroUnicorn
[02:06] <Dammit> the .iso is whre the wubi shouls be
[02:06] <ae86-drifter> they are also on seperate networks, so i would need to also setup some sort of router
[02:06] <KBentley57> escott, what is what it sounded like to me too.   Apparently oracles jre and the openjdk-jre version numbers don't sync, unless the ojdk hasn't been patched up as quickly
[02:07] <escott> KBentley57, it hasn't
[02:07] <Sylphie> Dammit \ the iso is a bit large for slow connections ... :(
[02:07] <escott> KBentley57, thats part of why DHS and the like are saying disable it. Oracle has completely dropped the ball on the updates
[02:07] <blkadder> ae68-drifter: Absolutely! That is all I was asking. I totally get company policy, etc. I was just trying to understand the constraints, as they aren't techincal.
[02:07] <KBentley57> is there a settings panel for the jre in ubuntu?
[02:08] <blkadder> technical even. :-)
[02:08] <Sylphie> KBentley57 \ you can actually uninstall the whole jre
[02:08] <Dammit> Sylphie \ I was able to get the iso...I was hoping there would be a simple .exe file. am I looking in the wrong spot for the .exe?
[02:08] <pinkpelican> Oh God XChat can't scroll up
[02:08] <KBentley57> yeah, I know that, but I do have a program which requires java to run, so I'm sort of stuck
[02:08] <escott> BroUnicorn, ie you need to send me what that output was. i need to see it
[02:09] <ae86-drifter> blkadder: i appreciate the help
[02:09] <KBentley57> pinkpelican, mouse wheel up
[02:09] <pinkpelican> I don't have a mousewheel!
[02:09] <pinkpelican> Is there a channel where I can receive help installing Ubuntu?
[02:10] <escott> pinkpelican, this channel
[02:10] <BroUnicorn> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1540058/
[02:10] <escott> BroUnicorn, you have 4 partitions already. you have to delete one first
[02:10] <KBentley57> pinkpelican, use page_up key
[02:10] <Sylphie> Dammit \ http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[02:11] <BroUnicorn> escott: What's the third partition for?
[02:11] <escott> BroUnicorn, one of those is windows, another is windows backup a third i have no idea. the fourth is probably something that the laptop manufacturer created to store drivers and the like
[02:11] <KBentley57> pinkpelican, and also the page down key :)
[02:11] <BroUnicorn> escott: So it's probably safe to delete the third.
[02:11] <pinkpelican> Yes that worked.
[02:11] <Dammit> Sylphie \ heh...that gives me the iso image.
[02:11] <escott> BroUnicorn, i would look at the contents of partition 4 and see if you can remove it
[02:11] <BroUnicorn> escott: Or the third is the livedisc?
[02:11] <Sylphie> oh :) sorry.
[02:11] <BroUnicorn> escott: Even though it contains drivers?
[02:11] <escott> BroUnicorn, the livecd is /dev/sr0
[02:11] <Dammit> no worries : )
[02:11] <escott> BroUnicorn, the drivers are installed by now.
[02:12] <BroUnicorn> escott: Okay. So how do I see what's on these partitions?
[02:12] <pinkpelican> I deleted the partition hoping that it would boot from USB
[02:12] <escott> BroUnicorn, open the file browser
[02:12] <pinkpelican> Now a grub prompt comes up that says no partition.
[02:13] <escott> BroUnicorn, match them up by size. sda1 is 209MB (windows boot??), sda2 is 300GB (windows proper), sda3 is 20GB (windows backup?), sda4 is 108MB (OEM drivers?)
[02:13] <Dammit> Sylphie \ thanks anyways...i will work it out with the iso.
[02:13] <pinkpelican> I really just want to shred the partition and restart with an Ubuntu install.
[02:13] <Sylphie> Dammit \ when you insert the disk, the autorun should take over. If you need to see what app the autorun pointed to, type out the autorun.inf file
[02:14] <BroUnicorn> escott: Okay so on the file browser says the 104.2MB one is HP Tools containing recycling bin and BIOS boot files
[02:14] <escott> BroUnicorn, the big headache is you probably want to steal space from sda2, but there is no free space adjacent to sda2 unless you remove sda3 which you might or might not want tot
[02:14] <escott> do
[02:14] <Sylphie> Dammit \ so you'r basically almost there
[02:14] <BroUnicorn> I can't figure out which is sad 3
[02:14] <BroUnicorn> sda*
[02:15] <BroUnicorn> There are three Devices showing up on the ubuntu desktop list
[02:15] <BroUnicorn> HP_TOOLS
[02:15] <BroUnicorn> 300 GB Volume
[02:15] <BroUnicorn> and SYSTEM. (sorry for the spacing)
[02:15] <escott> BroUnicorn, HP_TOOLS is sda4, 300GB volume is sda2
[02:16] <Ben64> BroUnicorn: if you type "mount" on a terminal, it will show you what is mounted where
[02:16] <blkadder> That is likely an emergency restore partition.
[02:16] <pinkpelican> I have a live USB and also a Win 7 install cd and the computer won't recognize either.
[02:16] <ae86-drifter> thanks for the help everyone, lol, i'm now closing all applications to benchmark my machine XD
[02:16] <blkadder> :-)
[02:16] <KBentley57> ha, hot damn.  escott Sylphie I just ran apt-get update and behold, a new jre update is available
[02:17] <BroUnicorn> escott: Is sda 3 System?
[02:17] <escott> BroUnicorn, not sure
[02:17] <ae86-drifter> rofl b4 i go
[02:17] <ae86-drifter> lol
[02:17] <escott> BroUnicorn, you can open it in nautilus and then check "mount"
[02:17] <BroUnicorn> escott: Okay. I'm not sure how to figure out either.
[02:17] <Sylphie> KBentley57 \ according to the DHS it's not safe yet
[02:17] <BroUnicorn> escott: What's nautilus?
[02:17] <BroUnicorn> escott: I'll do that.
[02:17] <pinkpelican> It says grub loading, error no such partition, grub rescue.
[02:17] <KBentley57> Sylphie, Yes, I'm reading that now
[02:18] <pinkpelican> Is there anything I can do?
[02:18] <escott> KBentley57, at the rate the white hats are finding these the blackhats already have a half-dozen in their pockets
[02:18] <KBentley57> BroUnicorn, nautilus is your file manager
[02:18] <th3pun15h3r> hey anyone have a recommended os to use for a sun microsystem ultra 5? I dont have solaris to install on it...was thinking of checking out bsd or just toss ubuntu on it
[02:18] <BroUnicorn> KBentley57: Okay, how do I open that?
[02:18] <escott> !sparc | th3pun15h3r
[02:18] <DaemonicApathy1> How about Puppy, th3pun15h3r? ;-)
[02:19] <KBentley57> BroUnicorn, are you using the live CD? or are you in a normal desktop.  sorry, I haven't been paying attention to your conversation
[02:19] <escott> th3pun15h3r, also solaris is GPL these days
[02:19] <BroUnicorn> KBentley57: livecd.
[02:19] <KBentley57> click on the picture of the file
[02:19] <KBentley57> or folder I suppose
[02:19] <BroUnicorn> Okay
[02:21] <KBentley57> according to the tech notes,  CVE-2013-0422 was fixed in this update
[02:21] <Sylphie> th3pun15h3r \ if you've got awesome hardware like a sparc, freebsd is well regarded
[02:21] <KBentley57> CVE-2012-3174
[02:23] <Sylphie> KBentley57 \ I don't know if you can run jail from linux, but if you could it would make even java safe to use
[02:23] <machicola> if i have an mp3 player connected to my laptop & am viewing its files where would I access these via command line? i'm at /mnt but the dir is empty
[02:24] <escott> machicola, depends on the mp3 player. and removable devices are mounted to /media
[02:24] <pinkpelican> How do I enter the bios on my machine?
[02:24] <escott> pinkpelican, one of the keys on your keyboard
[02:24] <Sylphie> machicola \ the device should come up as /dev/sd-something
[02:24] <KBentley57> pinkpelican, usually f2, or del as it is booting
[02:24] <pinkpelican> escott, how do I know which key?
[02:24] <escott> pinkpelican, usually a function key, sometimes shift or control. it should flash it at you during boot
[02:24] <specious> pinkpelican: hit them all
[02:24] <machicola> ahh, there it is, thankyou
[02:25] <specious> pinkpelican: F1 F2 F10 F12
[02:25] <pinkpelican> It says I can press tab to display bios, but they just flicker on the screen for a second.
[02:25] <escott> pinkpelican, and hit them repeatedly and quickly
[02:25] <machicola> it was in /media under some obscure name
[02:25] <escott> pinkpelican, so reboot and hit tab as many times as you can
[02:25] <specious> pinkpelican: mash that keyboard :)
[02:26] <escott> pinkpelican, finger workout. 40reps, ready 1.2.3.
[02:26] <Lupita> help I just edited my fstab and now I can edit again and I can boot ubuntu. what can i do ?
[02:26] <escott> Lupita, sounds like you can edit your fstab... was there a missing "not" somewhere in that sentence
[02:26] <blkadder> I hate it when I can boot ubuntu.
[02:27] <Sylphie> Lupita \ anything you wish
[02:27] <pinkpelican> Thanks that worked.
[02:27] <pinkpelican> What comman shows the partitions?
[02:27] <pinkpelican> flist?
[02:28] <pinkpelican> something -l
[02:28] <escott> pinkpelican, in the bios? none
[02:28] <escott> pinkpelican, sudo parted -l
[02:28] <pinkpelican> No, in Ubuntu
[02:28] <Sylphie> pinkpelican \ "df"
[02:28] <pinkpelican> Theres' another that shows sda
[02:28] <TrohlGewohl> ERBUNTR!
[02:28] <ctmjr> sudo fdisk -l
[02:28] <escott> pinkpelican, cat /proc/partitions
[02:30] <pinkpelican> Is it fdisk -l
[02:30] <escott> pinkpelican, you should use parted -l over fdisk -l since fdisk cannot read gpt disks
[02:30] <ctmjr> pinkpelican, yes sudo fdisk -l
[02:31] <iFlip> Does anyone know how to setup (HMA)-VPN on DD-WRT? Or a good tutorial site...
[02:32] <blkadder> iFlip: Well, is HMA PPTP or OpenVPN or ?
[02:33] <usr13> iFlip: I've done dd-wrt
[02:34] <usr13> iFlip: just go to dd-wrt.com and look up your router in the database and follow instructions.
[02:35] <usr13> iFlip: You mean, install?  Or using it?
[02:35] <blkadder> HMA seems to have documentation as well... Why/how is that not working for you?
[02:36] <iFlip> usr13 I've tried PPTP and unfortunately OpenVPN is not available as a choice on this v.
[02:37] <iFlip> I have a friend in Germany that needs it setup and I've spent 6 hours total on call trying different setups through TeamViewer with no luck
[02:37] <iFlip> I even followed the WRT setup guide, HMA setup giude and several third party guides.
[02:38] <iFlip> I flashed my e2500 here in the states to see if it had different features and still couldn't get it to work.
[02:38] <blkadder> iFlip: So where does it fail?
[02:39] <JoeyB2> lol, hello
[02:39] <JoeyB2> anyone here?
[02:39] <blkadder> iFlip: And perhaps you should choose a better channel as this has nothing to do with ubuntu...
[02:40] <iFlip> blkadder Here is his setup - T-MOBILE router that connects him to the cloud. On the other side is the WRT router that needs the VPN. Sometimes I get all the PPTP info entered in the fields and reboot the WRT router and goto www.ip2location.com to check if it worked and it still saysy he is in germany
[02:40] <usr13> iFlip: Upgrade to the full featured image
[02:40] <JoeyB2> FYI - to the community in general... if you use tasksel to try to install a LAMP server, DON'T unselect ubuntu-desktop.  Just don't do it!
[02:41] <usr13> iFlip: /join #dd-wrt
[02:41] <iFlip> I thought it was... how do i distinguish between FULL and well not FULL... I thought I was downloading the FULL
[02:41] <usr13> JoeyB2: Having problems?
[02:41] <iFlip> usr13 Point taken - I guess VPN doesn't under networking anymore. ;)
[02:42] <JoeyB2> lol, you could say that!
[02:42] <usr13> iFlip: You can upgrade.
[02:42] <iFlip> usr13 I will try that
[02:42] <iFlip> usr13 I'd rather have OpenVPN anyway for him.
[02:43] <JoeyB2> trying to decide if I should just do a clean install or try to let tasksel reinstall everything before I shutdown
[02:43] <usr13> JoeyB2: What's the problem?
[02:43] <HRB> http://pastebin.com/6a9Zmj5f Magizian WAR Report
[02:44] <JoeyB2> I unselected ubuntu-desktop in tasksel and it uninstalled just about everything.  It finally stopped with it uninstalled aptitude
[02:44] <usr13> JoeyB2: I'm just kind-of curious so don't take this wrong, but why did you install ubuntu-desktop if your intention was just to build a server?
[02:44] <jrib> JoeyB2: yeah tasksel uninstalling was not recommended last time I checked
[02:45] <jrib> !tasksel | JoeyB2
[02:45] <JoeyB2> I unselected it because it was already installed... I didn't think it would uninstall everything
[02:45] <jrib> JoeyB2: can you install it back? :)
[02:46] <usr13> JoeyB2: What ever your problem is, you can more-than-likely fix it.
[02:46] <JoeyB2> I'm trying to reinstall using tasksel, but I think I'm going to have to just do a clean install
[02:46] <usr13> JoeyB2: Why do you need aptitude?
[02:48] <usr13> JoeyB2: Sounds like you may have the right idea; to just start over.
[02:48] <JoeyB2> aptitude is installed as a dependecy with tasksel, so I guess tasksel uses it
[02:48] <JoeyB2> yeah, it's a new install anyway, it just reinstalled, but I'm going to reboot and see what happens.  Grub will probably choke on it.
[02:49] <Sylphie> sometimes it's useful to have a gui on server
[02:49] <JoeyB2> Sylphie, it's my desktop, I wans just installing LAMP for development purposes.
[02:49] <usr13> JoeyB2: Yep, sure is.  (aptitude is a dependency for tasksel)
[02:50] <K350> what to pick: qemu-kvm or virtualbox?
[02:50] <JoeyB2> dang, and I'd just got tmux set up like I like it
[02:51] <Sylphie> there's some server tasks that never seem to work right when the server is the same machine as the client
[02:52] <JoeyB2> Sylphie: I'm doing some Wordpress stuff, just building themes, it works fine for that and that's all I really need it for.
[02:52] <Sylphie> ok
[02:53] <usr13> JoeyB2: Not sure I understand why you need tasksel
[02:53] <Sylphie> there's some money to be made in wordpress themes
[02:54] <JoeyB2> usr13: I was using it to easily install a LAMP server
[02:55] <usr13> JoeyB2: It's been my experience that sometimes when you install applications that configure or install things that you could have done yourself... well they don't always do exactly what you want them to do.  Even if it takes you a little longer, you're sometimes better off doing it on your own.
[02:55] <Sylphie> JoeyB2 \ I've been thinking of trying out a wordpress setup, but I'd prefer postgresql, would that work as well as mysql?
[02:56] <eloi> ?
[02:57] <Sylphie> oh no , gyre is back and someone keeps reseting his.her connection
[02:58] <JoeyB2> usr13: noted!  haha, usually I AM the sort to install the proper way, but this seemed so easy.   Lesson learned.  Everything still works, btw, but I'm going to clean install anyway
[02:59] <JoeyB2> Sylphie: I think there's a plugin for version of Wordpress for postgres, you can try googling it
[02:59] <jrib> JoeyB2: tasksel is the proper way imo, just don't use it to uninstall things because of that bug...
[02:59] <craigbass1976> Anyone had trouble with a latop number pad not behaving as expected?  If numlock is off, I think hitting Shift and 7 (Home) should be highlighting everything from where my cursor is back to the beginning of the line.  I get a 7.
[02:59] <JoeyB2> jrib: That's an AMAZING bug.. reminds me of one ubuntu beta that formatted all attached drives when you installed... ALL of them!
[03:00] <Sylphie> I always found it was easy enough to install apache and some-sql-php from source
[03:00] <jrib> Sylphie: /why/ would you install from source...
[03:00] <JoeyB2> Sylphie is a closet BSD user i bet.
[03:01] <Flannel> craigbass1976: Does it function as [home] if you don't push shift?
[03:01] <Sylphie> when you install from source, you get the options you chose, not the options someone else chose
[03:01] <jrib> Sylphie: you also get to maintain it though
[03:02] <Sylphie> jrin \ but that's no big task is you keep with stable versions
[03:03] <jrib> Sylphie: I suppose if you *need* some custom compiling options you have no choice, but otherwise you need to make sure you stay on top of security issues that come up and patch them yourself whereas with apt someone else worries about that
[03:05] <usr13> JoeyB2: I suppose you should take jrib's word for it, I've never uset tasksel  so....
[03:06] <JoeyB2> yeah, it seems legit, but dang, they should fix that bug PRONTO!
[03:06] <usr13> Sylphie: You can always re-configure to your taste
[03:07] <jrib> usr13, JoeyB2: nothing wrong with not using tasksel to setup lamp either (you can get the exact list of packages to install from ubottu's !lamp factoid), it's just a little quicker (in the sense that you "install" one thing: lamp-server)
[03:07] <craigbass1976> Flannel, yes, which makees it all the more maddening...
[03:08] <Sylphie> out of all the subcomponents, I'd quess php is the one with a need for continuing security vigilance
[03:12] <gueriLLaPunK> I was wondering what cmd or program I can use to make my terminal look "busy" I got a second monitor and want it to look like putty is doing something other than displaying htop. Any suggestions?
[03:13] <jrib> gueriLLaPunK: do you want it useful too?
[03:13] <dr_willis> gueriLLaPunK:  colortail -f /var/log/dmesg /var/log/messages
[03:13] <gueriLLaPunK> Eh. dpesm
[03:13] <gueriLLaPunK> eh, doesnt have to be
[03:13] <gueriLLaPunK> -bash: colortail: command not found
[03:13] <gueriLLaPunK> :(
[03:13] <dr_willis> so install it.....
[03:13] <gueriLLaPunK> lawl
[03:13] <gueriLLaPunK> ok
[03:14]  * dr_willis wonders why people have a hard time with that...
[03:14] <dr_willis> theres several log colorizers in the repos ;)
[03:14] <jrib> gueriLLaPunK: you might add iftop in there
[03:15] <gueriLLaPunK> Package colortail is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:15] <gueriLLaPunK> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:15] <gueriLLaPunK> is only available from another source
[03:15] <gueriLLaPunK> E: Package colortail has no installation candidate
[03:15] <gueriLLaPunK> eeps
[03:15] <dr_willis> !info colortail
[03:15] <Sylphie> there used to some freeware package that would randomly generate technical-looking numbers and stats
[03:15] <jrib> gueriLLaPunK: and since you don't need it to be useful, you might try fortune and cowsay...
[03:15] <gueriLLaPunK> thanks guys! gimmie a minute to look this stuff up
[03:15] <dr_willis> watch  $(fortune | cowsay)
[03:16]  * jrib has a feeling dr_willis has used that before
[03:16] <dr_willis> or  watch df -h
[03:16] <bileday> .
[03:16] <dr_willis> colortail or  the other log colorizers are nice to havce going to keep an eye on things
[03:17] <dr_willis> or put an irc client on the other monitor. ;)
[03:17] <jrib> fetch some stock quotes
[03:17] <gueriLLaPunK> lol i already have xchat on the second monitor
[03:17] <Sylphie> there was also a screensaver that looked like a spreadsheet
[03:17] <dr_willis> or for the really leet try 'bb'
[03:17] <dr_willis> !info bb
[03:18] <gueriLLaPunK> i cant install fortune or colortail. im running 9.10 on this box
[03:18]  * gueriLLaPunK runs away
[03:18] <Sylphie> wow
[03:18] <gueriLLaPunK> and its gonna be a pain in the ass to update
[03:18] <jrib> gueriLLaPunK: why?
[03:18] <Sylphie> you might as well reinstall
[03:19] <jrib> one update to a supported release: 10.04
[03:19] <jisawesome> test
[03:19] <jrib> jisawesome: fail
[03:19] <lauratika> ?
[03:19] <dr_willis> 3+1=?
[03:19] <gueriLLaPunK> i have TBs of data on it and since the server is in france and im in cali, its a pain to transfer all that data without forking over some cash
[03:19] <gueriLLaPunK> but you're right. i need to update
[03:19] <dr_willis> just a few TB?
[03:20] <gueriLLaPunK> yeah
[03:20] <dr_willis> how quaint.
[03:20] <dr_willis> ;P
[03:20] <jrib> gueriLLaPunK: well presumably you have backups, so just do the upgrade
[03:20] <gueriLLaPunK> :P
[03:20] <gueriLLaPunK> i do no have backups and this data is all personal so its not mission critical.
[03:20] <jrib> gueriLLaPunK: you don't lose data during upgrades (unless something goes wrong)
[03:20] <gueriLLaPunK> its media
[03:20] <dr_willis> gee.. put the output of your backing up commands of your TB;s of data... in the 2nd monitor. ;)
[03:20] <jrib> gueriLLaPunK: if you don't have backups then the data is not important and you should just upgrade ;)
[03:21] <gueriLLaPunK> lol jrib
[03:21] <gueriLLaPunK> this is true
[03:21] <Sylphie> everything goes wrong during upgrades
[03:21] <dr_willis> Im cloning a 3TB usb hd to a 2nd one right now... over usb2  ;)
[03:21] <gueriLLaPunK> i think my DC offers a temp USB drive, but it wont be enough. i guess i have to pick and choose what data i want to save.
[03:21] <lauratika> dr_willis how long take sthta?
[03:22] <lauratika> that
[03:22] <Sylphie> gueriLLaPunK; maybe esata would be fast enough
[03:22] <dr_willis> lauratika:  since its on my rasperberry pi... so far.. a few days..  been doing it in batches
[03:22] <gueriLLaPunK> Sylphie, it would  be, but i dont think the datacenter im using offers esata drives.
[03:23] <lauratika> does raspberry runs good  with ubuntu?
[03:23] <dr_willis> lauratika:  it dosent run ubuntu.
[03:23] <Sylphie> gueriLLaPunK; how many terabytes was a few?
[03:24] <gueriLLaPunK> under 3TB
[03:24] <lauratika>  :o
[03:24] <gueriLLaPunK> ok, it looks like i can order a 2x2TB usb drives
[03:25] <gueriLLaPunK> the thing is, once i order it, they cannot (wont) remove the drives, so i dunno if i have to keep paying for them.
[03:25] <izx> I need to configure a Ubuntu server to follow a strict company password policy that specifies the following:
[03:25] <izx> at least one upper case
[03:25] <izx> , one lower case, one digit, one special character..   I have no idea of the details, but that's where I would start
[03:26] <escott> izx, i love those kinds of policies... it should be short and memorable so no more than 4 characters total
[03:26] <dr_willis> they started doing that here.. so over night 3000+ people forgot their passwords
[03:26] <JoeyB2> Password1! will be everyone's password within a week
[03:26] <Sylphie> gueriLLaPunK; I would then estimate it would take approx 18 hours to save 3tb to usb2 drives, assuming an effective practical speed of 50mb.sec
[03:27] <dr_willis> I have to have this super complex password for work.. just to enter my overtime... yet my bank lets me get by with a simple password
[03:27] <dr_willis> and uses a 2 part confirmation scheme
[03:27] <escott> dr_willis, didn't you go to my high school
[03:27] <escott> the trojans right?
[03:27] <dr_willis> ive never seen a USB2 Hd get 50mb/sec
[03:28] <dr_willis> escott:  In new castle.
[03:28] <gueriLLaPunK> Sylphie, nice. good thing I have time on my hand. I'm sending a tweet to the provider to get clarification on their USB external drives.
[03:28] <gueriLLaPunK> 9.10 aint cutting it
[03:28] <Sylphie> dr_willis \ with amax theortical speed of 60mb/sec, 50 seemed safe
[03:28] <escott> dr_willis, that helps, now all i need is your mothers maiden name
[03:29] <dr_willis> in england.
[03:29] <dr_willis> ;)
[03:31] <Sylphie> seems odd for someone in CA to use data hosting in france
[03:31] <wikill> spanish # ?
[03:31] <dr_willis> I definatly seem to have slow USB2 hd speeds in ubuntu.  for a simple 2 drive setup  what should transfer speeds be around?
[03:31] <elisa87> Hi, do you know how I can find Eclipse root folder for installing "Eclox"? When using the packaged feature, you must extract the archive content into your eclipse's root location. For additionnal details, please refer to eclipse's user guide.
[03:32] <dr_willis> elisa87:  try locate eclipse
[03:32] <Sylphie> dr_willis \ I was figuring on a single drive setup in two passes, 18 hours to backup and another 18 to restore
[03:32] <jrib> izx: « man pam_unx » search for "obscure".  That seems to do what you want.  You can probably google for example usage
[03:32] <jrib> izx: « man pam_unix » search for "obscure".  That seems to do what you want.  You can probably google for example usage
[03:32] <izx> THankyou jrib
[03:33] <dr_willis> Sylphie:  well ive noticed the rather low end rapberry pi doing anywhere from 1MS/sec to 8MB/Sec (rare)
[03:33] <Sylphie> dr_willis \ that is slow
[03:33] <elisa87> dr_willis I know where eclipse is ... it's in home/mona/.eclipse so basically I don't know where eclipse root location refer to? is it the same as .eclipse ?
[03:33] <qwopuni> I have mysql client and server installed, but if /usr/bin/mysql has been deleted before can anyone tell me how to replace it? (reinstalled packages already)
[03:33] <dr_willis> Sylphie:  both usb hds are on the same hub.. but ive not really noticed the ubutntu box doing much better
[03:33] <dr_willis> elisa87:  i would assume that is the root location
[03:34] <jrib> izx: there's a pretty good post here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/156850/setting-minimum-password-requirements
[03:34] <Sylphie> dr_willis \ I used to have an iipod that could do 7.5 mb/sec in hdd mode
[03:35] <izx> jrib: Thanks a lot, exactly what i want
[03:35] <dr_willis> Sylphie:  every so often i see the pi get up to  7mb/sec  but i am transfering a lot of big 1gb files.. so not sure if thats  has an affect on it or not
[03:35] <Sylphie> dr_willis \ might go faster if they weren't both on the same usb hub
[03:36] <dr_willis> Sylphie:  with the pi. thats not really an option. ;)
[03:36] <Sylphie> ok
[03:36] <dr_willis> but ive noticed similer speeds on a normal ubuntu box also with differnt ports
[03:36] <dr_willis> well i gotta run. bbl.
[03:37] <memand> is it the raspberry pi you are talking about?
[03:37] <Sylphie> yes, it was
[03:37] <memand> Sylphie: How was his opinion of it?
[03:38] <Sylphie> I don't know, he wasn't impressed with it's speed in doing backups to usb drives
[03:38] <elisa87> dr_willis I cannot go forward in the first stage (installation of eclox in Ubuntu)! Can you help me what I should do after putting the update files in .eclipse folder?
[03:39] <memand> elisa87: He just left
[03:39] <memand> what is the issue?
[03:39] <memand> Sylphie:
[03:39] <Sylphie> saving to a usb drive he was getting usually 1mb/sec to at most 8mb/sec
[03:40] <memand> Sylphie: Well I'm not surprised, as far as I remember the pi only has 1 usb hub
[03:41] <memand> so to use a mouse and keyboard you have to split it with a powered hub, and those thing are geemerally terrible for speed
[03:41] <memand> *generally
[03:41] <Sylphie> ok. so not much like a full sized machine
[03:42] <pinkpelican> How do I change the resolution of a game? I'm running FTL on a netbook.
[03:42] <memand> well it is what it is, it would probably be faster to do backups over ethernet
[03:43] <Sylphie> memand \ true
[03:43] <memand> pinkpelican: is it a wine game?
[03:47] <lcabreza> need help on pkcs11_listcerts : not detecting my activkey certificate
[03:48] <homecable> whats does EFI/UEFI
[03:48] <homecable> do ?
[03:49] <ikonia> homecable: a little resarch is needed
[03:49] <homecable> i got a new motherboard
[03:50] <homecable> didnt know if its need or for me to disable it
[03:50] <ikonia> homecable: a little resarch is needed
[03:50] <homecable> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EFIBootLoaders
[03:50] <pinkpelican> memand, no it's a game for linux.
[03:53] <memand> Sylphie: I've actually thought about getting one just because they are cool. But I havent found a use for it yet so...
[03:53] <Shiva_> hmm
[03:53] <memand> what did the dr use his for?
[03:54] <dr_willis> Im using my Pi for a znc server ;)
[03:54] <dr_willis> and its backing up some USB hds
[03:55] <memand> That's why you don't do it over ethernet
[03:55] <dr_willis> the network port on the pi shares resoruces with the USB ports..  somehow..
[03:56] <codenomics> seeing as Mint is based on Ubuntu, is it totally frowned upon to ask a question in here that no one can figure out in the Mint channels?
[03:56] <codenomics> about nvidia drivers?
[03:56] <xangua> !mint | codenomics
[03:57] <dr_willis> the main mint channel is not on this server.
[03:57] <codenomics> never said it was.
[03:58] <codenomics> so since it is not supported, although the issue is on both distros, I cant get help?
[03:58] <codenomics> ouch
[03:58] <escott> homecable, its like bios except with more code
[03:58] <aliendude5300> Hi, I have a quick question. I'm currently in a Business Management and Information Systems class in college, and we are working on databases. I have a bunch of database files in Microsoft Access format (accdb), and in order to do my work, I need to be able to open these files and run SQL queries on them, then submit the queries I ran and the resulting database to my professor. I want to be able to do my work in Ubuntu. What would you recom
[03:58] <aliendude5300> mend? I don't want to have to use Access through WINE if it can be avoided.
[03:58] <codenomics> glad to see the linux community sticking together
[03:58] <memand1> Wow my net is unstable right now
[03:58] <codenomics> thanks anyway
[03:58] <dr_willis> given all the tweaks and things mint does... a ubuntu fix may not apply to mint. and visa versa
[04:02] <memand1> dr_willis: did you also just get a msg from some melisa?
[04:02] <dr_willis> saw nomsgs here
[04:02] <dr_willis> shouldi feel left out
[04:03] <memand1> hmm, no it was spam. I've just never seen spam on irc before recently
[04:03] <dr_willis> it happens in here onoccasion.
[04:03] <dr_willis> theres a mode you can set where you can only get msgs from regiestered users
[04:04] <memand1> Nice, I have to check up on that later
[04:04] <mysteriousdarren> aliendude5300: here is wine http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=12
[04:05] <mysteriousdarren> aliendude5300: I dual-boot so I can work on my access crap from work, sorry I can't help more
[04:06] <memand1> I'm thinking maybe it's posible to do it with some sort of pen-testing tool?
[04:07] <ImDoT> hey guys. does anyone how to install the  steam beta on 64bit ?
[04:07] <dr_willis> ImDoT:  the blog site/guides worked here on 64bit
[04:07] <dr_willis> !steam
[04:08] <Celso> Hello ubuntu felows! does someone knows if gstreamer libraries of vaapi is curently working with intel hd3000? some say yes, some say no.
[04:08] <escott> aliendude5300, if you really want to do it from linux there are tools to extract ACCESS to mysql
[04:08] <ImDoT> well. thx for the hints guys
[04:08] <ithinktoomuch> Is lenovo g580 series well supported by ubuntu? I am about to buy it and I see lots of issues on the internet with brightness control and making wired/wireless internet work
[04:09] <escott> aliendude5300, but ACCESS sql varies significantly from other SQLs so you really do need to be using windows to complete your assignments properly
[04:10] <aliendude5300> escott, That's unfortunate, I figured SQL was pretty standardized... we're learning Access and Oracle SQL in the course I'm in, so I figured that wouldn't be too difficult to do in Linux
[04:11] <aliendude5300> What about LibreOffice Base? Would that be compatible with Access? Does anyone have experience using it?
[04:11] <memand1> ithinktoomuch: first hit on google http://blog.peacon.co.uk/ubuntu-12-10-on-the-lenovo-g580-i5-3210m/
[04:12] <escott> aliendude5300, for very simple queries things might work on both, but ACCESS in particular has a piece of junk query parser (in fact it has two piece of junk query parsers) so even standard queries will break it
[04:12] <aliendude5300> ithinktoomuch, I have the Y570 and it works wonderfully under Ubuntu
[04:12] <mysteriousdarren> libreoffice uses odb
[04:13] <ithinktoomuch> @memand1 - that link doesnt work for me
[04:13] <memand1> ithinktoomuch: It says that ubuntu 12.10 should feel like a pig in mud on it
[04:14] <dr_willis> memand1:  very happy? :) and slimey?
[04:15] <ithinktoomuch> @memand1 L I will go for it then! thanks
[04:15] <mysteriousdarren> aliendude5300: http://askubuntu.com/questions/187389/is-it-possible-to-open-a-office-2010-access-files
[04:16] <memand1> dr_willis: Like jelly
[04:16] <memand1> ithinktoomuch: :)
[04:17] <memand1> Why am I memand1 ..... ?
[04:18] <arunkumar413> anyone know how start with qml
[04:19] <memand> dr_willis: Can I ask why you use the pi for usb updates when it only has 1 usb entrance?
[04:20] <dr_willis> memand:  the other pcs were busy
[04:20] <memand> lol
[04:20] <dr_willis> and i wanted to test its stability
[04:20] <dr_willis> coppying hds for 6 days on and off. no crashes
[04:21] <memand> it runs some flavor of arch right? Or is that the beaglebone?
[04:21] <dr_willis> theres differnt disrots for the pi.  using rasbian. sunce theres no ubuntu for the pi
[04:22] <dr_willis> ive heard they work well as a x-terminal setup where you can offload stuff onto the main server but havent rried that yet
[04:22] <dr_willis> they do work decently well as a ssh/terminal box
[04:25] <AntiSol> Hello #ubuntu! :)
[04:25] <AntiSol> I'm seeing a very very strange bug in networkmanager and I'm wondering if a) anybody else can replicate it and b) if anybody has any ideas how I can get around it? How to replicate: 1) open nm-connection-editor 2) select a network connection and hit 'edit' 3) change the name (just to confirm that your keyboard works) 4) go to the 'IPv4 settings' tab 5) choose 'manual' in the 'method' dropdown. 6) observe that a message " WARNING **: Inv
[04:25] <AntiSol> alid setting IPv4 Settings: addresses" has been spat out at the terminal, and that this form no longer accepts keyboard input.
[04:25] <FloodBot1> AntiSol: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <memand> It sounds like stability wise you could easily (is that how it's spelled?) use it to ssh in and wake other pc's on lan and then control the more powerfull stuff through it dr_willis
[04:26] <dr_willis> memand:  the other pc had all its usb ports in use  ;) i bought a usb3 card for it. and it dident fit. ;p
[04:26] <dr_willis> cloning a 3tb usb to a 2nd 3TB usb seemed like a good test
[04:26] <zhig> Äîáðûé äåíü!
[04:26] <zhig> ãäå ðóññêèé êàíàë ïðî ubuntu&
[04:26] <dr_willis> not reallyu a clone.. im ssh;d into the pi and ccopying stuff over and removeing extra duplicated files also
[04:27] <gitesh> Hi
[04:27] <titanix> anyone has any experience with x2goclient and enlightenment??
[04:27] <memand> but it must have taken forever
[04:27] <dr_willis> memand:  it still is. ;)  but im consoladateing some drives onto a bigger hd also.
[04:28] <dr_willis> moving 3  1TB usbs onto a 3TB usb. and removeing dupliacates ive got stuck in sub dirs and so forth
[04:28] <dr_willis> i really need to figure out one of those find duplicate files tools
[04:29] <memand> dr_willis: I wonder if anyone has ever made a usb hub you can just put on ethernet and access
[04:29] <dr_willis> just now i found 3gb of files in side a identical directory..  foo was also in foo/foo
[04:29] <escott> dr_willis, /usr/share/fslint/fslint/findup -m /paths/go/here
[04:29] <dr_willis> Not seen a Hub that way. i do have some  cheap USB NAS's but they are usb2 so would be as slow i imagine
[04:30] <dr_willis> i remmber back in the days thinking usb2 was fast. ;)
[04:31] <yeehi> Just installed Gnome. I know wireless card works ok with free software and the wireless router signal is ok. I cannot reach internet. NetworkManger.conf has be set to managed=true and restarted. It says wireless is unavailable in network manager gnome. Aeroplane mode is off. Wireless is set to on. No wireless networks have been detected. How can I get to the internet?
[04:31] <memand> dr_willis: that was back when a 100GB hdd was equakky amasing
[04:32] <memand> yeehi: are you sure that you have the propper drivers?
[04:33] <dr_willis> memand:  and now we are back to 100GB Hds only they are SSD's :)
[04:33] <yeehi> i know this wireless card works ok with free software / shouldn't need drivers, memand, - it works with Trisquel, the fully free version of Ubuntu
[04:33] <vasvas> Äîáðûé äåíü!
[04:33] <vasvas> íóæíà ïîìîùü
[04:33] <memand> dr_willis: and cost the same as the bussines end of a stinger missile
[04:34] <memand> vasvas: ?????????????????????
[04:34] <gitesh> How do I install lampp on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?.  I don't have localhost. I just 'sudo apt-get install mysql-server. But while ' sudo service lampp restart' ==> lampp: unrecognized service
[04:34] <vasvas> i am from russia
[04:36] <vasvas> where a channel about ubuntu in Russian?
[04:36] <memand> yeehi: I actually havent used ubuntu for a while now, so I don't remember which network manager is used. but try netcfg-menu in terminal
[04:36] <memand> !ru
[04:37] <replica> how do i remove this bug ?Ubuntu 12.10-waiting to mount /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 in /etc/fstab at startup
[04:38] <replica> any1 can help me out on tht one
[04:38] <dr_willis> yeehi:  it may be a good idea to figure out wht module its using.
[04:39] <dr_willis> replica:  i seem to recall somein here the other day just commenting out the line in fstab. Im not sure why/how they had swap  enrypted but it wasent..
[04:39] <dr_willis> or the ystem thought they did.. and they dident.
[04:39] <vasvas> ñïàñèáî íî ïî÷åìó òî íå ìîãó ïèñàòü â îáùåì ÷àòå
[04:39] <vasvas> thanks but why I can not write in the general chat
[04:40] <replica> what if i remve crpytswap
[04:40] <replica> ?
[04:40] <replica> will tht work
[04:40] <replica> ?
[04:40] <FloodBot1> replica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:40] <memand> vasvas: maybe you need to be registered
[04:40] <dr_willis> replica:  no  idea. I just recall the guy having a simile rissue last week. you could search the logs.
[04:40] <dr_willis> i dont see much point in encrypting swap
[04:41] <memand> vasvas: write /msg nickserv register
[04:41] <escott> replica, without an encrypted swap the encrypted home will leak plaintext to the swap
[04:41] <replica> :O
[04:42] <replica> but wats the point whn my encrypt dosnt work escott ?
[04:42] <arunkumar413> how to do a middle click on a touchpad on ubuntu
[04:42] <replica> i can remove it tho rather thn facing those problemd
[04:42] <dr_willis> arunkumar413:  try both buttons at the same time
[04:42] <escott> replica, did you disable encrypted home?
[04:42] <replica> how do i do tht ?
[04:43] <arunkumar413> dr_willis: can i assign a particular area on touch pad for a middle click
[04:43] <replica> escott -> /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap nobootwait 0 0
[04:44] <escott> replica, which was setup for you when you clicked the "encrypt my home directory" option during install
[04:44] <replica> it dosnt help
[04:44] <memand> arunkumar413: do you have a synaptics?
[04:44] <vasvas> exactly how to register?
[04:44] <escott> !register | vasvas
[04:44] <replica> :| i forgot ? can u help me out escott
[04:45] <escott> replica, i have no idea what you are asking
[04:45] <arunkumar413> memand: synaptic packagemanager?
[04:45] <crus`> Hi guys, Is there anyway i can confirm that the iptables package in Ubuntu 12.04 has been compiled with TPROXY support?
[04:45] <vasvas> ÿ ñ windows âûõîæó
[04:45] <vasvas> I'm out windows
[04:45] <excesseye> !register excesseye
[04:46] <memand> arunkumar413: no synaptics touthpad, do xinout in terminal
[04:46] <memand> arunkumar413: xinput
[04:46] <arunkumar413> memand: yes
[04:47] <memand> what do you see under Virtual core pointer?
[04:47] <arunkumar413> memand: Virtual core pointer                    	id=2	[master pointer  (3)]
[04:47] <arunkumar413> ⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer              	id=4	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[04:47] <arunkumar413> ⎜   ↳ SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad              	id=12	[slave  pointer  (2)]
[04:47] <replica> escott could not mount /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 during the startup
[04:48] <replica> tht is wat i am asking
[04:48] <usr13>  crus` https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/iptables/+changelog
[04:48] <replica> it says s to skip mounting and m for mannual recovery
[04:48] <sup-b> hello all! anyone here have experience running a playstation emulator on ubuntu 12.10?
[04:49] <escott> replica, and you asked if removing that would break things. to which i answered: "the reason swap is encrypted is because otherwise the kernel can place plaintext pages from the encrypted home onto the swap disk, thereby leaking plaintext"
[04:49] <escott> replica, you were the one who selected the encrypted home, you are the one who must decide if that risk is acceptable. im just telling you what the risk is
[04:50] <crus`> usr13: that doesn't have the compile time options used?
[04:50] <arunkumar413> memand: r u there
[04:51] <usr13> crus`: That doesn't tell us much...
[04:51] <memand> arunkumar413: can you do xinput |& curl -F 'sprunge=<' http://sprunge.us
[04:51] <memand> arunkumar413: can you do xinput |& curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[04:51] <memand> arunkumar413: the second one
[04:52] <memand> arunkumar413: then send me the link it gives you
[04:53] <arunkumar413> memand: http://sprunge.us/DaAW
[04:54] <yeehi> dr_willis, how do i find out the module?
[04:55] <memand> arunkumar413: xinput list-props "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" |& curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[04:55] <arunkumar413> memand:  http://sprunge.us/CABi
[04:56] <usr13> crus`: It's in the man file.
[04:57] <usr13> crus`: See my PM
[04:57] <Sail> unable to install emerald package in ubuntu ?
[04:57] <memand> arunkumar413: xinput list-props "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" | grep Capabilities |& curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[04:58] <arunkumar413> memand: http://sprunge.us/BEMW
[04:59] <memand> arunkumar413: just a sec...
[04:59] <Sail> unable to install emerald package in ubuntu ?
[05:00] <Guest16925> "gnome-control-center sound" is giving me a segmentation fault
[05:00] <somsip> !details | Sail
[05:01] <Guest16925> I am running ubuntu 12.10 32 bit desktop
[05:02] <Sail> somsip: http://dpaste.com/hold/880190/
[05:02] <memand> arunkumar413: ok, i think we can set it up so you can use tree finger touch to middle click
[05:02] <Sail> i hav latest ubuntu12.1 install
[05:02] <memand> arunkumar413: synclient - |& curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[05:03] <memand> sry
[05:03] <aod_> beep
[05:03] <aod_> bop
[05:03] <aod_> boop
[05:03] <memand> arunkumar413: synclient -l |& curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[05:03] <aod_> beep
[05:03] <FloodBot1> aod_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:03] <usr13> Sail: Are you using a guide somewhere?
[05:03] <dr_willis> !emerald | sail
[05:03] <somsip> !info emerald
[05:03] <aod_> any cool themes?
[05:03] <dr_willis> Best to avoid emerald
[05:03] <arunkumar413> memand:  http://sprunge.us/jLEi
[05:04] <Sail> is there any way to add-repository for emerald
[05:04] <somsip> Sail: so...you need to look at a PPA or something like http://handytutorial.com/install-emerald-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10/
[05:04] <Guest16925> I am running ubuntu 12.10 32 bit desktop  "gnome-control-center sound" is giving me a segmentation fault
[05:04] <dr_willis> Sail:  use the various ppa serch sites.. but i doubt if anyone is maintaining emerald for 12.10
[05:04] <usr13> Sail: Are you on Ubuntu 12.10?
[05:04] <arunkumar413> memand: i want to assign the top right corner of the touchpad for middle click
[05:05] <usr13> Sail: http://handytutorial.com/install-emerald-in-ubuntu-12-04-12-10/
[05:05] <Soe1en> hello, I have a problem with my backupsystem
[05:05] <Sail> usr13: yup 12.1 thanx i will try
[05:06] <Sail> somsip: thanx will let u know when i implement this
[05:06] <usr13> Sail: It's 12.10 not 12.1
[05:06] <usr13> Sail: Ok, good luck.
[05:06] <aod_> how do you check if your on 12.4 or 12.10
[05:06] <dr_willis> !version
[05:06] <aod_> thanks!
[05:06] <usr13> aod_: lsb_release -a
[05:07] <memand> arunkumar413: just give me a sec, I'm not gone...
[05:07] <Soe1en> I create a backup with "tar cfz" -> my file which got backuped is named "geschäftsplan.odt", but in the backup the filename got all scrambled: "gesch├ñftsplan.odt"
[05:07] <arunkumar413> memand: ok, i'll wait for you. take your time
[05:08] <gitesh> How to solve this ==> 'sudo: /var/lib/sudo writable by non-owner (040777), should be mode 0700'
[05:08] <Soe1en> I dont see the reason for this, looks like an utf-8 issue to me but I dont know where this happened, anyone made the same experience?
[05:11]  * Onixs ["Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/"]
[05:12] <memand> arunkumar413: what happens if you tap the top right corner now?
[05:12] <frewsxcv> why am i unable to ping my desktop's host name (same subnet), but pinging their ip is fine
[05:14] <arunkumar413> memand: i clicked the link in browser, its opening in new taop
[05:14] <arunkumar413> tab
[05:14] <arunkumar413> memand: how did u do that
[05:15] <memand> it was allready set up...
[05:15] <dr_willis> frewsxcv:  its always worked tbat way for me..  in the past ive set up /etc/hosts file to map hostname and ip3
[05:18] <memand> arunkumar413: is there anything else you would like to do with your mouse now that we are at it?
[05:18] <arunkumar413> as of now that's it, but please let me  know how did u do that
[05:19] <arunkumar413> memand: if i draw an arc or circle the image should rotate
[05:20] <memand> arunkumar413: I did nothing, it was allready set up. But you can read about settin up synaptics touchpads here, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Configuration_on_the_fly
[05:26] <BroUnicorn> Deleted ubuntu partition
[05:27] <BroUnicorn> trying to start computer and error comes up
[05:27] <BroUnicorn> error: no such partition
[05:27] <BroUnicorn> grub rescue>
[05:27] <Sail_> in my menu system contain no preferences and administartion icon?
[05:28] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, this in still on the mac?
[05:28] <memand> is there a command that I can use to sound the computers bell
[05:28] <memand> ?
[05:28] <BroUnicorn> cfhowlett: No, this is on a friends windows
[05:28] <BroUnicorn> cfhowlett: was installing ubuntu. Had an error, so I had to delete the partition.
[05:28] <BroUnicorn> Now I can't get through to his windows.
[05:28] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, ok ... wait, WINDOWS?  so you installed via the windows installer?
[05:28] <BroUnicorn> The partition table isn't messed up
[05:28] <BroUnicorn> yeah
[05:29] <BroUnicorn> I could get into windows a few minutes ago, as the menu showed up at the beginning, but it wouldn't load into ubuntu
[05:29] <memand> windows installer is sheite no offence...
[05:29] <BroUnicorn> so I'm going back onto the ubuntu livedisc
[05:29] <BroUnicorn> so how can I fix this?
[05:30] <BroUnicorn> I think it's still trying to load the partition that I deleted and I just need to get it to load the windows bootloader
[05:30] <BroUnicorn> which is on sda1
[05:30]  * Onixs Bye!
[05:30] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, *wubi* shudder.  FYI: wubi is for TESTING ubuntu, not long term installation according to the developers.  Dual booting is the preferred method.  To fix the windows boot you need to use the windows disk and "repair/recover"
[05:30] <memand> BroUnicorn: and you'r sure you did not delete the windows partition?
[05:31] <BroUnicorn> memand: Yes.
[05:31] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, if you can still see the windows partition, then you should be able to recover/repair the MBR with the windows disk.
[05:32] <BroUnicorn> the MBR?
[05:32] <memand> I must say that I have never used wubi, so I'm on bare ground here...
[05:32] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, MasterBootRecord ...
[05:33] <cfhowlett> memand, personally, I say if you only want to test, use a virtual install ... virtualbox is good ...
[05:33] <memand> indeed
[05:33] <BroUnicorn> cfhowlett: I think I'm going to try reinstalling ubuntu to the partition that I deleted it from
[05:33] <BroUnicorn> cfhowlett: That ought to fix it
[05:33] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[05:33] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, ok.  proceed carefully.
[05:33] <merica> im having trouble with bumblebee again
[05:34] <cfhowlett> raddy, greetings
[05:34] <BroUnicorn> it only threw an error because we tried to have it download the updates at the same time
[05:34] <merica> Cannot access secondary GPU
[05:34] <BroUnicorn> cfhowlett: and our internet is terrible
[05:34] <raddy> Is Microsoft Exchange support removed from Ubuntu version of Evolution?
[05:34] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, I don't want to hear it.  I'm in China.  Trust me, THIS is terrible internet.
[05:34] <memand> BroUnicorn: Is there a specific reason you installed it with wubi? And Is there anything very critical you don't want to loose on the drive?
[05:35] <BroUnicorn> memand: No. There is not.
[05:36] <BroUnicorn> memand: I simply downloaded the most recent version and put it onto a dvd.
[05:36] <memand> BroUnicorn: then I would just wipe everything and install ubuntu clean on the disk
[05:36] <cfhowlett> BroUnicorn, really, seriously, find a dual boot tutorial and consider that option
[05:36] <BroUnicorn> memand: That's what I'm doing.
[05:36] <memand> Good :)
[05:36] <BroUnicorn> memand: Because I'm 99% positive the only reason I was getting the error is because it was trying to load the partition of ubuntu that I had just deleted
[05:37] <raddy> Is Microsoft Exchange support removed from Ubuntu version of Evolution?
[05:37] <memand> BroUnicorn: Again I don't have experience with wubi, but it sounds like a fair assumption
[05:38] <memand> cfhowlett: do you know how wubi actually works?
[05:38] <jambeedrum> does different browsers and different window managers have change of image quality ?
[05:38] <memand> cfhowlett: I mean does it make a ubuntu install, or is it kind of like the ubuntu version of wine?
[05:38] <cfhowlett> memand, in tech terms?  it emulates a new computer.  NOT wine..
[05:38] <memand> jambeedrum: not really
[05:39] <memand> cfhowlett: ok, so it's like a virtual machine?
[05:39] <elisa87> Hi I am running Ubuntu 12.04 on HP Pavilion dv3 beside no other OS. It wasn't slow at all but it's about one month that it has become damn slow and hangs and freezes every now and then. Do you know what's the reason and what are the solutions? I really need urgent help regarding this
[05:39] <cfhowlett> memand, it is an ubuntu install but as it exists in the windows filesystem, it's subject to windows errors that ubuntu/linux normally avoids, e.g. fragmentation
[05:40] <memand> cfhowlett: I'm really not conviced that wubi is a good idea...
[05:40] <dr_willis> in convinced its a bad idea
[05:40] <dr_willis> ;)
[05:40] <cfhowlett> memand, used for it's purpose, it's great.
[05:41] <memand> elisa87: is it slow to log in or slow in general?
[05:41] <cfhowlett> memand, interestingly, in 12.10, wubi was removed from the iso.  You can still get it but ...
[05:42] <elisa87> memand it's had become slow in login a little bit but mainly when I am working with internet or run spotify or just use ALT+TAB it just hangs and I should wait more than 30 seconds till it comes back to the normal operation
[05:42] <memand> cfhowlett: I just dont see the scenario where you would want to go with wubi instead of just trying it from the live disk
[05:43] <cfhowlett> memand, a little research goes a long way.  As I recall, wubi seemed less dangerous than trying to set up dual booting.  Of course, when wubi flamed out with the grub 2 upgrade, I was compelled to reconsider
[05:43] <memand> elisa87: have you installed anything reacently that could be sitting in the background taking up recources?
[05:44] <elisa87> everyday I have to install lots of things memand so I don't know which one is hurting the Ubuntu. Is there anyway to realize this?
[05:44] <skp1> anyone know how to stop all running pulseaudio processes?
[05:45] <memand> cfhowlett: Meh, I'm still not convinced, just get rid of windoze and go *nix all the way ;)
[05:45] <cfhowlett> skp1, killall pulseaudio
[05:45] <cfhowlett> memand, :)
[05:45] <memand> elisa87: try runining htop in the terminal
[05:45] <memand> *running
[05:46] <cheo> hey que onda alguien habla español???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[05:46] <memand> !es
[05:46] <cfhowlett> !es|cheo,
[05:47] <cheo> (y)
[05:47] <cheo>  w d f
[05:47] <grawity> Does Ubuntu's "Sound menu" have separate volume controls per player, or only one "master" control?
[05:47] <memand> Just one master as far as I know
[05:47] <cheo> a la ch con esto
[05:48] <dr_willis> i think ive seen it for differnt playuers and other apps making sounds
[05:48] <decci>  I setup a lustre filesystem with MDS/MGS, OSS and Client on each RHEL 6.3 machine. How to test if the configuration is working fine?
[05:48] <grawity> dr_willis: "sound settings" has them, yes, but I'm curious about the "Sound Menu" specifically
[05:48] <dr_willis> but  the app may need to regiester itself in the menu. You are refering to the top right audio sound volumd  icon?
[05:48] <grawity> yes
[05:48] <dr_willis> ive seen that icon have sevveral players shown
[05:49] <memand> elisa87: did htop reveal anything?
[05:49] <WeThePeople> where is the .trash located
[05:50] <dr_willis> !trash
[05:50] <elisa87> memrand ok what should I realize from that !? I am a newbie
[05:50] <elisa87> memrand I don't know how to realize if it's revealing anything! There's lots of things shown after I wrote htop in terminal
[05:50] <dr_willis> elisa87:  whats listed as the top cpu hog? it sorts high to low
[05:51] <elisa87> dr_willis are you meaning CPU percentage?
[05:51] <elisa87> nothing more than 2%
[05:51] <memand> yes
[05:52] <elisa87> memand dr_willis compiz 12%
[05:52] <elisa87> dr_willis memand pidgin 21%
[05:52] <dr_willis> keep htop running and see if anything  pops to the top when the system hangs/lags
[05:53] <elisa87> OK
[05:53] <elisa87> Any other solution?
[05:53] <elisa87> I have not used anything from swap
[05:53] <elisa87> it says 119,000 task running! Is that normal?
[05:53] <memand> no
[05:56] <elisa87> dr_willis + memand I ran eclipse right now and it used 146% of CPU
[05:56] <dr_willis> mine says tasks: 132, 341   but im not sure what that really means
[05:57] <dr_willis> mine says tasks: 121, 341      Thr: 1
[05:57] <memand> dr_willis elisa87: ok maybe it is normal, I'm running a pretty striped down version of linux
[05:57] <memand> it just sounded like a lot
[05:57] <elisa87> So any solution all in all
[05:57] <elisa87> ?
[05:57] <dr_willis> whats the load average line say
[05:59] <dr_willis> my raspberry pi says     tasks:  60, 58  threads: 2
[05:59] <dr_willis> ;)
[05:59] <dr_willis> i think its not saying  121,341 thousand.. but something like 121 out of 341 are active... (but im not sure)
[06:00] <dr_willis> the way the #s are formated seem odd
[06:00] <memand> dr_willis: that is 7, 000 less than i'm running on my laptop :P
[06:00] <memand> yes very odd indeed
[06:00] <memand> elisa87: how old is the computer?
[06:01] <elisa87> It's less than two years that I have it
[06:01] <dr_willis> elisa87:  and your video card is?
[06:01] <elisa87> IDK dr_willis how can I realize that?:P
[06:02] <dr_willis> look at lspci output  or the scickers on the outside
[06:02] <memand> elisa87: lspci | grep VGA
[06:02] <memand> in the terminal
[06:03] <elisa87> memrand and dr_willis 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[06:03] <elisa87> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Robson CE [AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series]
[06:03] <elisa87> Is it a good one or no?
[06:05] <memand> elisa87: sounds allright, and the drivers should be working since it's not nVidia
[06:05] <memand> elisa87: when did you apdate your system last?
[06:05] <elisa87> How can I realize if the drivers are not compatible with Ubuntu?
[06:05] <dr_willis> this is a desktop or laptop
[06:06] <elisa87> I mean if there's something wrong with the driver how should I realize it?
[06:06] <elisa87> memrand I guess I didn't so far
[06:06] <elisa87> sudo apt-get update ?
[06:06] <memand> dr_willis: I don't remember if there is a way to apt-get upgrade just the vide drivers?
[06:07] <ikonia> memand: apt-get upgrade $PACKAGE
[06:07] <Borked> is GoDaddy any good for ubuntu domans?
[06:07] <memand> elisa87: first sudo apt-get update
[06:07] <ikonia> Borked: there is no such thing as "ubuntu domains"
[06:07] <memand> elisa87: just a sec
[06:07] <Borked> ikonia, sorry. I mean is GoDaddy good to use with a ubuntu server?
[06:08] <Borked> ikonia, i want to register a URL domain-style TLD name
[06:08] <ikonia> Borked: the registrar has nothing to do with the service you are using
[06:11] <memand> elisa87: sudo lshw -c video | grep configuration
[06:12] <elisa87> OK what should I do? Seems like I'm in an interactive place in terminal starting with PCI memrand
[06:13] <memand> elisa87: It will take a moment before it gives the output
[06:15] <elise001> I have a question, but do not want to flood the channel. Where and how do I post to?
[06:15] <ikonia> elise001: summerise your question into a short 2 - 3 line query
[06:15] <aeon-ltd> longer than that, then use pastebin
[06:15] <elisa87> memrand what do you realize by this result ?  configuration: driver=radeon latency=0       configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
[06:15] <ikonia> if your question needs to go in a pastebin - very few people will read it
[06:17] <aeon-ltd> ikonia: yeah, i guess. If you were pasting 40-50 lines of console output, it'd be better to sign up and wait on the forum
[06:17] <ikonia> agreed
[06:17] <elise001> Am unable to install Opera on my Ubuntu laptop.
[06:17] <ikonia> ok, so what's the actual issue with the installtion process ?
[06:17] <aeon-ltd> elise001: what happens when you try?
[06:18] <elise001> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:18] <elise001> libc6: Depends: libc-bin (= 2.11.1-0ubuntu7) but 2.15-0ubuntu10.3 is installed
[06:18] <elise001> Recommends: libc6-i686
[06:18] <elise001> python-louis: Depends: liblouis0 (>= 1.7.0-2) but it is not installable
[06:18] <elise001> ubuntu-minimal: Depends: libc6-i686
[06:18] <elise001> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[06:18] <elise001> E: Unable to correct dependencies
[06:18] <FloodBot1> elise001: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:18] <meet> i set login without password in user accounts. Now everytime i use any sudo command or grub-customizer etc i am asked for my password. when i put my earlier password it says authentication failed. what is the problem?
[06:19] <memand> elisa87: It tells me what drivers we need to look for. Now do sudo apt-cache search radeon |& curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[06:19] <ikonia> wow the "not flooding" the channel really sunk in with you elise001
[06:19] <elise001> I said that I did not want to flood. Sorry.
[06:19] <memand> and send me the link that it gives you
[06:19] <Borked> ikonia, ok thank you for that. Is there any registrator you would personally recommend?
[06:19] <ikonia> Borked: no
[06:19] <elisa87> thank you memrand  http://sprunge.us/TcJc
[06:19] <Borked> ikonia, what is the official ubuntu.com registrator?
[06:20] <ikonia> elise001: the version of opera you are trying to install is too "old" for the version of ubuntu you are running
[06:20] <ikonia> Borked: look it up
[06:20] <meet> i set login without password in user accounts. Now everytime i use any sudo command or grub-customizer etc i am asked for my password. when i put my earlier password it says authentication failed. what is the problem? i am not able to change my password from the user accounts in settings.
[06:20] <ikonia> meet: yes, you said that less than 65 seconds ago
[06:20] <Borked> ikonia, ok, so to confirm; 1) Look up ubuntu.com registrator, 2) Use that registrator
[06:20] <Borked> ikonia, thank you!
[06:20] <ikonia> Borked: errr no
[06:20] <meet> ikonia: i made some additions
[06:20] <ikonia> that's not what I said
[06:21] <memand> elisa87: btw if you just start typing part of my name and press tab it will auto complete it ;)
[06:22] <elisa87> memand: ok so what should do we do with this result?  http://sprunge.us/TcJc
[06:22]  * Onixs ["Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/"]
[06:22] <memand> elisa87: did you do sudo apt-get update yet?
[06:22] <elisa87> no
[06:22] <memand> do it now
[06:22] <elisa87> I am going to do that first
[06:22] <Borked> ikonia, I'm afraid it is impossible to determine ubuntu.com's registrator
[06:23] <ikonia> Borked: no its not, but what does it matter, you don't have to use what they are using
[06:23] <Borked> ikonia, yes it is
[06:23] <Borked> ikonia, they are using www.markmonitor.com to obfuscate their registrator
[06:24] <ikonia> no, that means they act as the registrar,
[06:24] <elisa87> memand:  I had some warnings like : W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/java/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:24] <ikonia> they are probably a registrar themselves with most of the tld providers
[06:24] <ikonia> Borked: but  you don't have to use what ubuntu.com uses
[06:24] <ikonia> use what you want
[06:24] <memand> elisa87: that's fine for now
[06:24] <Borked> ikonia, ok. Can you please help a little. Everyone tells me not to go with GoDaddy
[06:24] <ikonia> then do that
[06:24] <ikonia> use who you want
[06:25] <memand> elisa87: now do sudo apt-get upgrade xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[06:25] <ikonia> this channel is not here to give reviews on domain registrars
[06:25] <Borked> ikonia, are you sure it won't hurt my ubuntu? I usually use Windows Vista
[06:25] <ikonia> Borked: if you think it will - you should not be hosting a domain as you have zero concept of how it works
[06:25] <Borked> ikonia, ok. I just needed to know if there was a specific ubuntu registrator that was recommended
[06:25] <Borked> ikonia, really? I find that a little insulting
[06:25] <ikonia> the registrar has nothing to do with the OS of rht ehosting provider
[06:26] <ikonia> Borked: if you are insulted by the truth, I suggest you deal with it
[06:26] <Borked> ikonia, I run my own bind server
[06:26] <ikonia> so ?
[06:26] <memand> lol
[06:26] <Borked> ikonia, I am more than aquainted with the vagaries of domains, DNS, and the like
[06:26] <Borked> ikonia, I ask you to withdraw, sir
[06:27] <ikonia> Borked: then why are you asking questions like if a domain registrar will damage  your OS
[06:27] <Borked> ikonia, I like trolling
[06:27] <ikonia> Borked: or questions such as which registrars are better for ubuntu ?
[06:28] <memand> elisa87: how's it doing?
[06:28] <elisa87> memand:  it's yet upgrading
[06:28] <memand> ok
[06:29] <memand> elisa87: tell me when it's done :)
[06:29] <elisa87> ok sure
[06:29] <memand> we'll update you'r nvidia driver too
[06:30] <memand> sorry intel i mean
[06:30] <dr_willis> i thought he had an ati card
[06:30] <dr_willis> actually 2 cards
[06:30] <dr_willis> or am i confused again.
[06:31] <memand> dr_willis: no I'm just talking jiberish :P
[06:31] <dr_willis> i cant even rember his original problem. ;)
[06:32] <memand> elisa87: and at some point when we are done here you should really do a sudo apt-get upgrade to update everything, but that will probably take a loong tim if you have never done it before...
[06:32] <memand> dr_willis: laggy system
[06:32] <memand> :P
[06:32] <elisa87> memrand : IDK why that upgrade for Radeon is taking such a long time
[06:33] <dr_willis> is this a desktop system with 2 video cards? or a laptop with that annoying dual-gpu stuff?
[06:33] <elisa87> are you talking about me? I am a SHE :}
[06:33] <memand> it will take a while
[06:33] <elisa87> it's Pavilion dv3
[06:33] <memand> especially if you have a slow internet connection
[06:34] <BroUnicorn> memand: Installing ubuntu back to the partition that I deleted fixed the issue.
[06:34] <dr_willis> Pavillion DV3 dosent tell me if its a desktop or laptop....
[06:34] <BroUnicorn> :D
[06:34] <memand> BroUnicorn: nice :)
[06:34]  * Onixs
[06:34] <vaskaloidis> hey my ubuntu server can ping other clients on my network but it cannot ping outside IP's like google.com
[06:34] <vaskaloidis> I just confined the network file
[06:35] <elise001> Will try to do sudo apt get update now
[06:35] <memand> BroUnicorn: but i really recomend getting rid of wubi and going for a dual boot system if you really need windoze
[06:36] <vaskaloidis> I think its a simple problem
[06:36] <rob_p> vaskaloidis: Missing default gateway, perhaps?
[06:36] <vaskaloidis> I set the gateway <IP_ADDRESS> in the config
[06:36] <memand> vaskaloidis: how does your /etc/hosts look?
[06:37] <BroUnicorn> memand: What even is wubi?
[06:37] <BroUnicorn> memand: and isn't it dual booted now?
[06:37] <vaskaloidis> it has 127 line twice
[06:37] <BroUnicorn> memand: when he turns on the computer he can choose between windows and ubuntu
[06:37] <vaskaloidis> then a bunch of ff00: ff01: and some stuff after it
[06:37] <MTW> How do I run Microsoft Office 2013 in ubuntu? I downloaded the .exe but it won't run
[06:38] <memand> BroUnicorn: did you install ubuntu from inside windoze?
[06:38] <dr_willis> !appdb | mtw
[06:38] <ikonia> MTW: I'd not try that in honesty
[06:38] <BroUnicorn> memand: No definitely not
[06:38] <ikonia> MTW: if you want to use office....use windows/mac platforms where it's suported
[06:38] <rob_p> vaskaloidis: route -n
[06:38] <BroUnicorn> memand: did it with a livedisc
[06:38] <ikonia> (that's only my personal opinion though)
[06:38] <MTW> What is the port of Ubuntu if you can't use Word?
[06:38] <MTW> ;(
[06:38] <dr_willis> I dont need word
[06:38] <memand> BroUnicorn: ok, then you don't have wubi. I just understood you had a wubi install...
[06:38] <vaskaloidis> rob_p: there are two destinations <IP_ADDRESS> and the other is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:38] <dr_willis> whats the point of word if  it wont run on Linux and my other  Os;s ;)
[06:38] <vaskaloidis> is that good?
[06:39] <vaskaloidis> rob_p: is that good???**
[06:39] <BroUnicorn> memand: Nope! :P
[06:39] <BroUnicorn> memand: But I'll definitely stay away fromm it.
[06:39] <memand> BroUnicorn: Do that
[06:40] <memand> BroUnicorn: Why do you need to have windoze installed anyways?
[06:40] <vaskaloidis> I gotta go real quick ill be back in 10 minutes rob_p can you help me then buddy?
[06:40] <elise001> I think the sudo apt-get update went well. Didn't take that long. I'll try to pastebin it.
[06:41] <dr_willis> elise001:  update dosent do much.. the upgrade does it all
[06:41] <dr_willis> you upDATE the list of packages you can upGRADE
[06:41] <miroesq> I got an error when using make && make install if someone could help me out with that
[06:41] <memand> elise001: who are you talking too?
[06:41] <elise001> So how do I upgrade?
[06:41] <dr_willis> so 'sudo apt-get upgrade' is the big command.
[06:41] <dr_willis> always update befor you upgrade
[06:41] <memand> elise001: sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:42] <heroclitis> dr_willis: is it necessary to run update to update the information from the repositories before running update?
[06:42] <dr_willis> and a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'   pulls in some held packages if needed
[06:42] <memand> yes
[06:42] <dr_willis> heroclitis:  if you want to be truely  up to date - yes
[06:43] <rob_p> vaskaloidis: Under the, "Gateway" heading, you should see your default gateway listed. If it's not there/incorrect, etc., then you need to fix it.
[06:43] <heroclitis> dr_willis: I thought so, thanks.
[06:43] <dr_willis> or at least have ran it some short time befor. ;)
[06:43] <elise001> I will try that sudo apt-get upgrade first.
[06:43] <Stark> Anyone willing to help me set up psyBNC?
[06:43] <memand> elisa87: still upgrading?
[06:43] <dr_willis> Stark:  a lot  of people perfer znc to psybnc these days
[06:44] <dr_willis> !info psybnc
[06:44] <elisa87> yes it's yet upgrading the radeon I'm eating my Special K red berries :|
[06:44] <memand> ANyTHING FOR A Stark!
[06:44] <dr_willis> elisa87:  it will most likely want to reboot after upgradeing also
[06:44] <elisa87> yeah
[06:44] <elise001> System suggested that I do apt-get -f install to correct unmet dependencies. Will try that.
[06:44] <dr_willis> at least it wont want to reboot several times like ive seen windows do
[06:44] <tucemiux> is it still possible to take a hard drive from one machine into another machine and have ubuntu pick up the hardware and work???
[06:44]  * Onixs
[06:44] <memand> Stark: but seriously I don't even know what psyBNC is :P
[06:45] <BroUnicorn> memand: on my mac I need it because there's a program I use that's windows specific. Plus my Uni gives me windows 8 for free so might as well
[06:45] <BroUnicorn> night guys
[06:45] <dr_willis> !info znc
[06:45] <Stark> Is znc easy to set up?
[06:45] <Stark> I cannot figure psybnc out at all.
[06:45] <dr_willis> Stark:  fairly simple
[06:45]  * Stark is fairly a noob
[06:45] <heroclitis> When bridging a connection in virtualbox, does that bypass iptables?
[06:46] <dr_willis> psybnc has 1000's of docs/web sites/guides.. but i never use it
[06:46]  * Stark has used Ubuntu for years but never consistently or as a primary OS
[06:46] <elise001> correcting dependencies failed
[06:46] <memand> elisa87: lol, it sure is taking its sweet time, do you have a bad internet connection?
[06:47] <memand> dr_willis: I would say you should wait with rebooting untill we also have the intel drivers updated (then you dont have to reboot twice)
[06:47] <elisa87> I am using our complex wireless! It could be bad! I have no idea!
[06:47] <dr_willis> it shouldent reboot twice anyway.. it will insttall the drivers.. then say the system needs to reboot
[06:48] <elisa87> dr_willis is the problem originating from the not upgraded drivers?
[06:48] <dr_willis> elisa87:  the output of sudo apt-get ugrade      and the errors -  may be worth pastebining
[06:49] <dr_willis> which problem. ;) you should be able to update and upgrade just fine.. unless youve done some weird stuff to the ssytem
[06:49]  * memand welcomes Stark to *nix
[06:49] <elisa87> dr_willis how can I see the outputs of -erros of upgrade
[06:49] <elisa87> ?
[06:49] <Stark> memand: I used to use OS X primarily, so it's not entirely new
[06:49] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get upgrade   and paste the output to a pastebin site.. or use pastebinit
[06:49] <elise001> 'curl' is currently not installed
[06:50] <elisa87> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/deb/ stable/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_talkplugin_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
[06:50] <elisa87> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/deb/ stable/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_talkplugin_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[06:50] <elisa87> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[06:50] <elisa87> mona@mona-HP-Pavilion-dv3-Notebook-PC:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:50] <elisa87> The following packages have been kept back:  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[06:50] <elise001> By the way, I am elise001 not elisa87.
[06:50] <elisa87> lol yes I am elisa
[06:51] <dr_willis> the whole idea of a pastebin site..  seems hard to grasp.
[06:51] <dr_willis> so we have 2 differnt elisas?
[06:51] <elisa87> I have to restart please don't write msg to me till I come back
[06:51] <dr_willis> or one person on 2 pcs ;)
[06:51] <memand> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQkB-WWzsbg lol
[06:51] <elise001> The 2 dl.google.com/linux links above give me 404s
[06:52] <dr_willis> the 404 on google.. are meaningless warnings
[06:52] <dr_willis> and you really should remove the entries from your soruces i imagine
[06:52] <elise001> Sorry elise87
[06:52] <memand> shes rebooting
[06:53] <Stark> My Ubuntu machine's WiFi connection is extremely unstable, and randomly dies every 15 minutes at most, requiring a manual re-connect.
[06:53] <memand> Stark: Is there a lot of wifi-networks in your are?
[06:53] <memand> *area
[06:53] <Stark> This is extremely annoying as I intend to use it via SSH and instead I continuously have to go to the machine and re-start it. Additionally, it makes it completely useless as an IRC bouncer.
[06:54] <Stark> memand: There are not
[06:54] <dr_willis> might be a good idea to get a differnt wifi card/dongle.. or run a wire
[06:54] <memand> Stark: is it when making popcorn in the microwave? .P
[06:54] <memand> :P
[06:55] <elise001> Trying to install Opera again on my ubuntu laptop.
[06:55] <memand> elisa87: welcome back
[06:55] <elise001> Broken dependencies.
[06:55] <ikonia> elise001: I told you this earlier
[06:55] <gumption> does anyone know how to add an application to startup?
[06:55] <elisa87> memrand dr_willis thx I restarted! How can I make sure if the problem is totally erased?
[06:55] <memand> elisa87:
[06:56] <memand> sry
[06:56] <elise001> This application can't continue until fixed.
[06:56] <memand> elisa87: did it log in faster this time?
[06:56] <skp1> how do i use ppa-purge?
[06:57] <heroclitis> skp1: http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/
[06:57] <elise001> To fix it run gksudo synaptic or sudo apt-get install -f in terminal window.
[06:57] <elisa87> it reboot faster but yet hangs a little :| memrand
[06:58] <elise001> Tried to run 'gksudo synaptic'
[06:58] <memand> elisa87: I would recomend finding a better internet connection and then running sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:59] <elise001> It says that I have 4 broken dependencies, and that I should use the "Broken" filter to locate them.
[06:59] <memand> elisa87: with the connection you have now it will take ages it seems
[07:00] <elise001> What is the syntax to use the Broken filter to locate them?
[07:00] <memand> what is the command to list all running deamons?
[07:00] <dr_willis> elise001:  use the broken filter  feature of synaptic and see  whats broken
[07:00] <dr_willis> elise001:  it has a button at the bottom left i recall]]
[07:00] <dr_willis> by source, by state, by broke,  - i cant rember the details
[07:01] <misterswag> What's the most popular irc now?
[07:01] <memand> misterswag: client you mean?
[07:01] <memand> misterswag: a lot of ppl use Xchat
[07:02] <memand> It's nice
[07:02] <misterswag> Yeah client, gotcha. I'm using it too.... Is there a way to generate SSL for channels
[07:03] <elisa87> memrand do you know why nothing happens when I run this? psql -h server.domain.org database user
[07:03] <heroclitis> I can't find much on the Amateur radio packages in synaptic, anyone know about these?
[07:03] <memand> misterswag: I don't use it myself, so I don't remember how to do it in Xchat. But I'm sure that google will tell you ;)
[07:03] <SeraphR> I can't use the Multi-touch feature. I am in Ubuntu 12.04.1 and I found that there is a bug report in launchpad (308191). I have read that but did not see any workarounds. Anyone can help?
[07:03] <misterswag> I sure am :-)
[07:04] <elisa87> memrand dr_willis mona@mona-HP-Pavilion-dv3-Notebook-PC:~$ psql -h server.domain.org database user
[07:04] <elisa87> psql: could not connect to server: Connection timed out
[07:04] <elisa87> 	Is the server running on host "server.domain.org" (<IP_ADDRESS>) and accepting
[07:04] <elisa87> 	TCP/IP connections on port 5432?
[07:04] <memand> elisa87: no idea, maybe because of bad connection
[07:04] <elise001> Buttons are on bottom left. Thanks Dr_Willis.
[07:04] <Ben64> elisa87: you own domain.org?
[07:04] <dr_willis> You are using an actual server and not some example server from a book? ;)
[07:04] <MTW> Office 2013 will not run in Wine...
[07:05] <MTW> installer exits
[07:05] <dr_willis> MTW:  im not suprised really
[07:05] <Ben64> MTW: libreoffice :D
[07:05] <elisa87> no I don't Ben64 should I own one for configuring postgresql?
[07:05] <MTW> What is the point of an operating system incompatible with Word processing?
[07:05] <pinkpelican> How do I change the resolution of a linux game? I want to play FTL on a netbook.
[07:05] <Ben64> elisa87: look at what you pasted. its trying to connect to it
[07:05] <heroclitis> MTW: What do you mean?
[07:06] <memand> try ping domain and see how much package loss you have elisa87
[07:06] <MTW> heroclitis: Word = word processing. libreoffice is a joke.
[07:06] <vaskaloidis> hey rob_p so any other ideas why my laptop cant connect to the internet but can ping other laptops on my network
[07:06] <vaskaloidis> or anyone else know why
[07:06] <Ben64> MTW: libreoffice works fine for word processing, its just not called "Word"
[07:06] <dr_willis> MTW:  some would say word is a joke.. but  do you have an actual support qquestion?
[07:06] <MTW> It doesn't have the same functionality, and libreoffice documents look 'weird' in Windows
[07:07] <elisa87> memand: Ben64 I was following this manual https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL can you follow it and see if you have the same error on the second step?
[07:07] <memand> vaskaloidis: maybe your router does not have an internet connection. So it can only ping localy
[07:07] <Ben64> elisa87: you're supposed to enter your server's hostname there
[07:07] <vaskaloidis> demand i am on the same router
[07:08] <vaskaloidis> memand: i am using the same router and I have internet
[07:08] <memand> vaskaloidis: is it your router?
[07:08] <elisa87> Ben64 can my own computer be counted as a server or what should I enter in your opinion if I don't have a server?
[07:08] <elise001> I did a pastebin. Can you all read it? Any suggestions, please?
[07:08] <Ben64> elisa87: read the document you pasted more carefully
[07:08] <SeraphR> I can't use the Multi-touch feature. I am in Ubuntu 12.04.1 and I found that there is a bug report in launchpad (308191). I have read that but did not see any workarounds. Anyone can help?
[07:08] <florian> hello, can someone help me with my usb hub failure? I'm gonna pastbin a dmesg log in a minute
[07:08] <vaskaloidis> memand: not the router
[07:09] <elise001> Getting food from kitchen
[07:09] <meet> i am posting my question again. sry for that. I selected the login without password from the user account settings. But now I am not able to perform any sudo commands or any setting changes which require password. my earlier password is not being recognized. How do I solve this?
[07:10] <memand> vaskaloidis: maybe it has some weird firewall rules, or maybe your /etc/hosts is set up wrong
[07:10] <SeraphR> meet: Do you have your Installation CD or Live USB? boot from there and then mount your hard disk and chroot to your linux. Then you might be able to use passwd command to reset the password.
[07:10] <vaskaloidis> no i was using the wrong gateway demand thank you it works
[07:10] <memand> vaskaloidis: :)
[07:10] <Ben64> meet: reboot into recovery and reset the password
[07:11] <memand> Ben64: Is it that simple?
[07:11] <memand> Ben64: that sounds majorly unsafe
[07:12] <Ben64> memand: if someone has physical access to your computer, theres no such thing as safe
[07:12] <meet> Ben64: what command should i use?
[07:13] <Ben64> meet: "passwd <your user>"
[07:13] <memand> Ben64: true that :) but still...
[07:13] <meet> Ben64: can i do that from the ctrl+alt+f1 screen?
[07:13] <Ben64> meet: nope, that needs a login
[07:13] <florian> my usb hub is failing once in a while. I usually have my keyboard in it and flash drives. when it fails, I can't use the flash drives directly in the ports. It seems as there is something wrong with the ports.
[07:14] <memand> florian: get it repaired
[07:14] <meet> Ben64: so when i select the advanced options and use the command prompt there, will i be directly in the root shell?
[07:14] <vaskaloidis> I would like a subdomain of my website vkaloidis.com IE macbook.vkaloidis.com to lead to my home network - I have port forwarding ready
[07:14] <Ben64> meet: yeah
[07:15] <florian> memand, the hub? or the ports?
[07:15] <memand> florian: whatever is broken, if it's a hardware problem there is really nothing we can do here...
[07:16] <florian> this is the pastebinned log of "dmesg | grep -i -b2 usb | pastebinit": http://pastebin.com/dk6PnhyL
[07:16] <florian> memand, yes, sure. but I'm not sure ( ;-) ) whether its a hardware or software failure.
[07:17] <elisa87> why am I receiving this error ? mona@mona-HP-Pavilion-dv3-Notebook-PC:~$ psql
[07:17] <elisa87> psql: FATAL:  role "mona" does not exist
[07:17] <pinkpelican> Can I resize windows to fit a netbook in Ubuntu?
[07:17] <memand> florian: I'm not sure what to make of that paste, maybe someone else is...
[07:17] <memand> I have to p
[07:18] <florian> I got the command from someone who knows more about computer systems than I do -- I can't figure out what the log dmesg log says.
[07:18] <florian> memand, thanks anyway.
[07:18] <ikonia> elisa87: the database role does not exist
[07:18] <ikonia> the error is quite clear
[07:19] <florian> histo, I didn't have any failure until this morning with the hub on a different port. The recent dmesg pastebin is http://pastebin.com/dk6PnhyL, from the same command you told me yesterday.
[07:26] <subdesign> can I change the size of nautilus icons?
[07:27] <meet> after i apt-get update, i am showed 4 5 errors everytime. The update completes and these errors are shown at the end. can someone please have a look and tell me what can i do to remove them? http://fpaste.org/tgnD/
[07:30] <amagee> where is the best place to ask questions about multiple monitors and X and xrandr?  i can't get ubuntu's "display" widget or xrandr to see that i have two monitors connected to my machine, regardless of whether both are plugged into my ati graphics card (open source drivers) or my intel graphics card
[07:30] <memand> lol I just saw that my gf has a shirt from trol design :P
[07:31] <Tecan> is there a pkgbuild for debian ?
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> Tecan: wut?
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> Tecan: if you wanted all debian packages, just install debian
[07:35] <Tecan> i run/make alot of apps that im not sure how to put into the repository's
[07:37] <elise001> ikonia: The Opera version is new. The Ubuntu version is older.
[07:42] <_raven> how to remove/repair a "half-installed" broken file?
[07:44] <_raven> apt-get: how to remove/repair a "half-installed" broken package?
[07:46] <dr_willis> apt-get -f    perhas
[07:47] <_raven> dr_willis does not work
[07:47] <dr_willis> pastebin the error messages perhaps
[07:49] <ikonia> elise001: according to the message, the ubuntu version is still too new