[15:58] <FeasibilityStudy> Syka, why?
[15:58] <bazhang> Syka, that is not correct
[15:58] <cudev> DasEi: what?
[15:58] <Syka> bazhang: It isn't?
[15:58] <oskar-> ackbahr:  you could use "find" with "-type f" and "-exec"
[15:58] <cudev> DasEi: I am not logged onto IRC on the same box that I am trying to get working
[15:58] <bazhang> !ff35 | FeasibilityStudy Syka
[15:59] <Syka> bazhang: The firefox meta package is still going to point to 3.0.11
[15:59] <Syka> bazhang: Parrantly
[15:59] <FeasibilityStudy> So all we get is the BETA still?
[15:59] <bazhang> Syka, no it wont
[15:59] <FeasibilityStudy> after all this time?
[15:59] <DasEi> cudev: you said you had no working network, but could deliver pasts from it's config, little wondering
[15:59] <moncky> FeasibilityStudy: If you download 3.5 i think FF will update itself
[15:59] <Syka> FeasibilityStudy: They're updating it later
[15:59] <bazhang> FeasibilityStudy, no it is final
[15:59] <edgar_> hey guys
[15:59] <FeasibilityStudy> bazhang how come it does not prompt me for update?
[15:59] <cudev> DasEi: the connect port, the static one, comes up. Not even the other onboard port comes up
[15:59] <Syka> bazhang: Shiretoko is a OLD beta
[16:00] <bazhang> FeasibilityStudy, separate package
[16:00] <Pici> Syka: READ the message from ubottu
[16:00] <vise> Hi!! which package for the sun java runtime environment?
[16:00] <ackbahr> oskar-: Ok.... Well, actually it's just to avoid an error message in a script, so it's no big deal....
[16:00] <bazhang> Syka, that is simply not correct
[16:00] <cudev> DasEi: and the error is only reported for the ports on the slot nic
[16:00] <DasEi> cudev : so ifconfig gives you a working line ?
[16:00] <Pici> FeasibilityStudy: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[16:00] <FeasibilityStudy> bazhang, im pretty sure SHiretoko is a BETA
[16:00] <FeasibilityStudy> 9.0.4
[16:00] <Syka> Pici: Then why when I upgraded last night it was Shiretoko beta?
[16:00] <Pici> FeasibilityStudy: Its not. Please READ the explanation in ubottu
[16:00] <FeasibilityStudy> Pici, how come it does not prompt me to update automatically?
[16:01] <cudev> ifconfig, now that I renamed the interfaces, gives back lo and eth0
[16:01] <cudev> ifconfig -a shows lo and eth0-5
[16:01] <leaf-sheep> FeasibilityStudy, Syka: It is final.  What you see is not what you get.  It's all about branding.
[16:01] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  When my laptop isn't plugged in, power-wise, cpu speed is capped at 800 MHz.  How do I lift this cap?  (it can run at up to 2133 MHz)
[16:01] <edgar_> helo cudev
[16:01] <Syka> leaf-sheep: then what about http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2009/07/03/install-firefox-35-in-ubuntu-904/ ?
[16:01] <Pici> FeasibilityStudy: Because it is a new package, we are not changing the default browser of Jaunty mid-release.
[16:01] <Syka> "However, the universe repository in Ubuntu 9.04 includes a special firefox-3.5 package. At the time of writing this package contains an old beta release."
[16:01] <cudev> edgar_: hello
[16:01] <edgar_> hey syka
[16:01] <oskar-> FeasibilityStudy:  ubuntu has its own, superior update mechanism. the one from the mozilla products is therefore not used. it is intended for windows, as that os does not have a proper update mechanism
[16:02] <edgar_> wher ar u from
[16:02] <The_Warlock> how do i install the sidepatch for mutt
[16:02] <FeasibilityStudy> oskar- No, no.  I am talking about the Ubuntu package manager is not prompting me for update
[16:02] <cudev> edgar_: Antarctica
[16:02] <oskar-> FeasibilityStudy:  ah, ok ;)
[16:02] <bazhang> FeasibilityStudy, it won't. please read the link
[16:03] <Pici> Syka: *At the time of writing* Read the rest of the page you linked to.
[16:03] <moncky> !patch | The_Warlock
[16:03] <n0gear> is there a easy way to start a script without the ./ at the fron?
[16:03] <FeasibilityStudy> What is wrong with updating Firefox?  I fail to see how this is a bad thing.  I think it should be done automatically
[16:03] <edgar_> hey cudev how can i find network manager icon
[16:03] <Pici> n0gear: Place the script in your $PATH, which should include ~/bin by default.
[16:03] <FeasibilityStudy> I actually think it is irresponsible of Ubuntu NOT to update it.  There are security exploits out there
[16:03] <SoulBlade> how do i install a 32-bit version of libz so applications being compiled w/ -m32 using libz can link properly?
[16:03] <moncky> The_Warlock: hmm not what I was expecting try man patch
[16:03] <Slart> n0gear: or put a symlink in /bin
[16:03] <Syka> Pici: As of last night, the 3.5 package was still Shiretoko - the old 3.1 beta
[16:04] <Syka> Pici: Unless my repo mirror is way out
[16:04] <Pici> Syka: Its branded shiretoko, but it is 3.5 final.
[16:04] <leaf-sheep> Syka: July 3rd.  It's old.  The last statement "Unfortunately, this package is still branded as Shiretoko (the codename for this Firefox release)." and "cp -r ~/.mozilla/firefox/ ~/firefox_profile_backup" puts it out of .mozilla directory.
[16:04] <cudev> edgar_: network manager icon? I've been doing it from the terminal. If you have a GUI, yo umay try System>Preferences or SYstem>Administration
[16:04] <The_Warlock> moncky, tnx i think sudo apt-get install mutt-patched worked
[16:04] <Pici> Syka: http://is.gd/1reB3
[16:04] <FeasibilityStudy> Is it standard practice of Ubuntu NOT to push an updated Firefox to all users?
[16:04] <Syka> Pici: So why is it completely missing the firefox logo?
[16:04] <edgar_> thanx
[16:05] <cudev> DasEi: ifconfig, now that I renamed the interfaces, gives back lo and eth0. ifconfig -a shows lo and eth0 through eth5
[16:05] <Pici> Syka: Because that would include branding changes, as the page I just linked you to describes.
[16:05] <Syka> Pici: As in, the About box does not have the FF logo
[16:05] <oskar-> FeasibilityStudy:  it is standard practice to not push an update to users without testing it for a defined while
[16:05] <n0gear> Pici: wheres path?
[16:05] <FeasibilityStudy> oskar-: How long is a defined while?
[16:05] <Pici> n0gear: $PATH is an environment variable.
[16:05] <leaf-sheep> Syka: Missing logo?  That's called branding.  They changed the code but they don't change the UI / branding.
[16:05] <Syka> oskar-: Isn't, like, the months of 3.1 beta enough testing?
[16:06] <Pici> FeasibilityStudy: It is not standard practice to change the default browser mid release.
[16:06] <FeasibilityStudy> Syka exactly
[16:06] <Syka> leaf-sheep: So the 3.5 package has no logos, FF or Canonical?
[16:06] <edgar_> cudev do u know anything about hacking
[16:06] <FeasibilityStudy> Pici: How is that changing the default browser?  It's only an update..Every other distro I have used will push Firefox updates almost immediately.
[16:06] <cudev> edgar_: Why do you ask such questions?
[16:07] <Pici> FeasibilityStudy: FF3.5 is a new package, it is not part of the FF3.0 branch
[16:07] <n0gear> Pici: So do i just copy the script to /bin ?
[16:07] <Dulak> FeasibilityStudy: 3.5 is not an update, it's a release
[16:07] <edgar_> cos i want to learn some techniqs
[16:07] <Syka> lemme just start up FF
[16:07] <leaf-sheep> Syka: Right.  It'll be branded in Karmic.  The reason for this is because looks / designs is not a security matter and the developers only works on and push security updates first.
[16:07] <Pici> n0gear: Create ~/bin and copy it there
[16:08] <FeasibilityStudy> Yes but it's still FIREFOX..It's not like it is a totally different browser.
[16:08] <Syka> leaf-sheep: So then why did Synaptic install a Ubuntu-Branding package?
[16:08] <FeasibilityStudy> all settings will be saved, all bookmarks, etc.
[16:08] <visionary> hello all :)
[16:08] <Pici> n0gear: Assuming that you are only running it under your user of course. Otherwise check $PATH and put it somewhere else, like /usr/local/bin
[16:08] <cudev> edgar_: Well, first off, <IP_ADDRESS> is a free box that people are allowed to practice on
[16:08] <bazhang> FeasibilityStudy, Syka you have been given links and explanations, please read them and move on
[16:09] <leaf-sheep> Syka: For Firefox-3.0.  You'll see that "firefox-3.0-branding" is installed.
[16:09] <FeasibilityStudy> I just think it's silly to have to wait on 9.10 in order to use an updated Firefox..
[16:09] <edgar_> ok then wat next
[16:09] <Halitech> FeasibilityStudy, then why not the new versions of Gnome par6t way through? or KDE4 when it was released?  because they (the devs) decide what goes in and when
[16:09] <rtfl> hi there =)
[16:09] <dmdrummond> lol@cudev
[16:09] <limpc> hmm
[16:09] <Syka> leaf-sheep: No
[16:10] <Pici> FeasibilityStudy: You don't need to wait, install the firefox-3.5 package.
[16:10] <limpc> cant install miro? :)
[16:10] <Syka> leaf-sheep: firefox-3.5-branding
[16:10] <dmdrummond> edgar: so is <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:10] <oskar-> FeasibilityStudy:  perhaps you are wrong at ubuntu 9.04 (?)
[16:10] <n0gear> Pici: all i had to do was copy the script to /bin and rename zzz.sh to zzz
[16:10] <visionary> simple community question: Does anyone now of a really full featured download manager for http/ftp/p2p with scheduling and a Web UI
[16:10] <Syka> FeasibilityStudy: Use this: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2009/07/15/install-firefox-35-in-ubuntu-904-using-ubuntuzilla/
[16:10] <Syka> FeasibilityStudy: 3.5 -with- Firefox branding
[16:10] <edgar_> so wat exactly are those route for
[16:11] <FeasibilityStudy> Ok one last question.  Is FF 3.5.1 in the repos?
[16:11] <Slart> !ff35
[16:11] <grawity> FeasibilityStudy: I would guess so, since it's a security fix.
[16:11] <Gadu> Hy all.. I have a problem. I downloaded a virtual HDD with ubuntu then mounted it with VirtualBox. Unfortunately, it didn't have KDE so I installed it too but the problem is that I can't get past the login screen. After I enter the login name and password, the screen goes blank for a few seconds then goes back to the login screen. I am kind of noob in this kind of problem. Can you help me fix it out?
[16:11] <Syka> FeasibilityStudy: No, my repo version is 3.5
[16:11] <grawity> Syka: The official build has some problems with fonts (it uses fontconfig instead of GNOME settings) - but there's nothing ~/.fonts.conf couldn't fix.
[16:11] <Pici> FeasibilityStudy: I would expect it shortly. It was just released.
[16:11] <limpc> miro requires  libtorrent-rasterbar2,  libtorrent-rasterbar2 requires removal  of python-libtorrent, but miro also requires python-libtorrent
[16:11] <FeasibilityStudy> ok thanks
[16:11] <FeasibilityStudy> later
[16:11]  * limpc scratches head
[16:11] <grawity> FeasibilityStudy: Use Ubuntuzilla
[16:12] <Syka> grawity: My ubuntuzilla one is fine... detects my M$ partition fonts fine, it seems
[16:12] <navatwo> whats the default windows manager?
[16:12] <moncky> Gadu: first place to have a look would be in /var/log/messages
[16:12] <Alloosh> Hi I got Micro POS and I need to test it, ubuntu is not recognizing it, and I cant find micro in add printer, any suggestions
[16:12] <navatwo> compiz is ticking me off.
[16:12] <edgar_> guys which version of ubuntu is the best, am using xubuntu
[16:12] <bazhang> navatwo, in gnome?
[16:12] <Pici> !best| edgar_
[16:12] <navatwo> yes, ubuntu
[16:12] <whileimhere> Hi. In GNOME on Ubuntu 9.04, when I go to PLACES > CONNECT TO SERVER and set up a FTP (with login) is there a way to get GNOME to remember this information ? When I rebooted it was all gone and I had to re-input it again.
[16:12] <moncky> Gadu: you can get into a terminal by holding ctrl-alt and pressing F1
[16:13] <bazhang> nautilus navatwo
[16:13] <Syka> edgar_: The "vanilla" Ubuntu, with GNOME, I think
[16:13] <grawity> Syka: I meant the appearance settings such as antialiasing, hinting, and such.
[16:13] <navatwo> bazhang: not what I meant :)
[16:13] <bazhang> navatwo, whoops sorry metacity
[16:13] <navatwo> lol
[16:13] <navatwo> thanks
[16:13] <yogesh> how to install dvd player
[16:13] <edgar_> thanx ubottu
[16:13] <Syka> grawity: Oh. there's an issue with that? Meh, I don;t change those settings so I wouldn't notice
[16:13] <edgar_> thanx ubottu
[16:13] <Halitech> edgar_, depends on your system, ubuntu work for most, some like kubuntu
[16:13] <grawity> whileimhere: It should ask you if you want it to remember the password ... Do you have "gnome-keyring-daemon" running?
[16:13] <navatwo> shit
[16:13] <bazhang> yogesh, the player or the codecs
[16:14] <navatwo> I still dont have my desktop icons back..
[16:14] <Pici> navatwo: Please mind your language here.
[16:14] <navatwo> Sorry Pici
[16:14] <grawity> Syka: Anyway, it's just a simple edit to ~/.fonts.conf
[16:14] <navatwo> im really frustrated.
[16:14] <whileimhere> grawity thanks for the answer yes I do  have it installed and it is just me not paying attention. I forgot to check the box about bookmarking it. :)
[16:14] <grawity> navatwo: Start Nautilus, it should bring them back.
[16:15] <BadSector> Hello--  I am trying to find out how to do "rmmod psmouse" automatically on boot up.    Which file do I add this command to? the init.d or the module in ETC? ...
[16:15] <yogesh> please tell me someone how to install any software
[16:15] <blackgraz> how do i loggin as a root user if im already logged into x
[16:15] <grawity> whileimhere: Not that one, I think. When you click connect and it asks you for the password, _that_ window has a "Forget immediately/remember" selection.
[16:15] <progre55> javabot: soreau++
[16:15] <Halitech> yogesh, search synaptic or add/remove software
[16:15] <bazhang> blackgraz, dont login as root
[16:15] <grawity> whileimhere: And the passwords are stored to gnome-keyring, which can be managed using seahorse.
[16:15] <progre55> dosnt the karma thing work here? )
[16:15] <whileimhere> grawity yes you are right.
[16:15] <Pici> progre55: No.
[16:15] <progre55> too bad =)
[16:16] <Alloosh> yogesh: system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[16:16] <navatwo> grawity: that did it.
[16:16] <navatwo> :)
[16:16] <navatwo> thanks
[16:16] <Halitech> !root | blackgraz,
[16:16] <grawity> navatwo: Btw, what was that about Compiz?
[16:16] <Gadu> @ moncky : I went to /var/log/messages but I can't find anything useful there, just some things similar to this: Jul 15 07:45:07 ubuntu kernel: [ 0.00000] Normal 0x00001334 -> 0x000231
[16:16] <soreau> progre55: Not sure, did you fix whatever it was you were trying to?
[16:16] <whileimhere> Im really starting to like this GNOME-Bluefish combo
[16:16] <limpc> sudo passwd <-- will let you change root password.
[16:16] <blackgraz> ubottu: nevermind
[16:16] <blackgraz> err
[16:17] <grawity> limpc: Not a very good idea.
[16:17] <blackgraz> Halitech: uhh i worded my question wrong
[16:17] <limpc> why not?
[16:17] <ColinCop> exit
[16:17] <ColinCop> exit
[16:17] <JoeKerr> can i connect ubuntu to a windows network?
[16:17] <bazhang> limpc, please don't recommend that here
[16:17] <Halitech> JoeKerr, yes you can
[16:17] <limpc> .. theres nothing wrong with changing root password.
[16:17] <bazhang> !sudo > limpc
[16:18] <limpc> i know what sudo is, bazhang
[16:18] <JoeKerr> where do i set the network setting..i dont see it
[16:18] <limpc> i also hate having to sudo 10-20 commands.
[16:18] <Pici> limpc: That is what sudo -i is for
[16:18] <bazhang> limpc, no need for root, not needed in Ubuntu
[16:18] <Halitech> blackgraz, ok, what are you trying to do then?
[16:18] <Pici> limpc: We cannot support any repurcussions that might occur by having the root password set.
[16:18] <Dulak> limpc: if you absolutely need a root shell just use "sudo -i"
[16:18] <navatwo_> okay, so I made a boo-boo. I ended a terminal which was running metacity
[16:19] <navatwo_> I have one open now, how would I start up compiz or metacity?
[16:19] <bazhang> navatwo_, try altf2 metacity --replace
[16:19] <grawity> navatwo: Just "compiz" or "metacity".
[16:19] <navatwo_> im in altf2
[16:19] <navatwo_> :p
[16:19] <grawity> navatwo: If that doesn't work, try with --replace
[16:19] <limpc> Dulak: I just su -. everyone else seems to think root is taboo :)
[16:19] <noplease> hi
[16:20] <JoeKerr> where do i setup the network in ubuntu?
[16:20] <Dulak> limpc: it is, it leads to lazy sysadmins
[16:20] <navatwo_> bazhang: grawity uhm, I get an error about unable to open x
[16:20] <grawity> JoeKerr: There should be a NetworkManager icon next to the clock.
[16:20] <navatwo_> X Display&
[16:20] <limpc> well lazy sysadmins shouldnt be using ubuntu for production machines? :P
[16:20] <navatwo_> *
[16:20] <Dulak> limpc: why not?  ubuntu server is really nice in production
[16:20] <grawity> navatwo: ...are you doing it from a virtual console?
[16:21] <navatwo_> Yes
[16:21] <navatwo_> :S
[16:21] <grawity> navatwo: You need to run the WM from the same X session.
[16:21] <grawity> navatwo: You said you still have a terminal open there
[16:21] <Dulak> limpc: the fact is using a root shell is a crutch, and in ubuntu if you have to have it, sudo -i gives it to you without havign to enable root
[16:21] <JoeKerr> is that on Application, Places or System
[16:21] <grawity> JoeKerr: System -> Preferences.
[16:22] <navatwo_> grawity: sorry, im on a virtual :( my apologies. I'm still rather new with ubuntu
[16:22] <grawity> navatwo_: You can still restart the entire GDM. (This will log you out from X though.) Run 'sudo service gdm restart'
[16:23] <edgar_> I have accidentaly removed network manager applet icon in the panel, how can i gei it back
[16:23] <Clouse> Hello there all in ubuntu land
[16:23] <JoeKerr> i only see network connection and network proxy
[16:23] <limpc> Dulak: well im not a sheep. and im not a lazy admin.  i have a firewall, i use secure passwords, and keep up to date.  if people view themselves so lazy or bad an admin that they need to limit themselves, fine. but I dont think root should be taboo.  it makes people afraid and dumb security-wise.
[16:23] <dax2112rush> Every once in a while I get that problem where I'm unable to interact with any part of the UI (shown apps and gnome-panel). I'm able to switch terminals (using CTRL-ALT-FX) and my music still works. Usually this will resume after a few minutes. Is there something I could do to help me find the faulty app?
[16:23] <grawity> JoeKerr: "Network connection".
[16:24] <Dulak> limpc: so you enable root on ubuntu cuz you think it's cool, rather than leaving it disabled, and not even have to worry about it, and use the proper tool.  I get it.
[16:24] <limpc> dulak - not at all.
[16:24] <edgar_> plz guys help me
[16:24] <Dulak> limpc: when you get about 10 more years of experience, let's have this conversation again.
[16:24] <navatwo_> grawity: so, it said there was an issue starting on :0 so it went on :1, big deal, or no?
[16:24] <Dulak> limpc: till then, you've been told the stance, and I'm dropping it
[16:25] <Halitech> limpc, if you want root then maybe you should look into running Debian or Redhat that allows it
[16:25] <limpc> Halitech: yeah i run redhat, slackware, bsd, and have a LFS box :)
[16:25] <grawity> navatwo_: Isn't very bad, but try stopping it completely ("sudo service gdm stop") and starting again ("sudo service gdm start").
[16:25] <JoeKerr> i have a wired network ...do i just do an add?
[16:26] <navatwo_> grawity: I have to restart my computer for something else, should that do the same?
[16:26] <dax2112rush> Is there any way to see if some process is not responding?
[16:26] <Eisenhowerz> does "sudo apt-get build-essential" not work in 9.04?
[16:26] <gartral> morning all, anyone have any difivulty getting a memorex cdrw drive to read disks?
[16:26] <grawity> navatwo_: Yes.
[16:26] <limpc> Halitech: I like Ubuntu because it works well with modern hardware without too much fuss, and I dont like Fedora.
[16:26] <bazhang> edgar_, right click panel add to choose applet then find the nm-applet
[16:26] <navatwo_> thanks grawity for all the help :)
[16:26] <limpc> (for the desktop i mean)
[16:26] <Pici> Eisenhowerz: you're missing an argument there: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:27] <Eisenhowerz> Pici: thanks
[16:27] <Eisenhowerz> Pici: do i need anything else for compiling c++ ?
[16:27] <navatwo_> bai
[16:27] <Halitech> limpc, I like Debian but I installed sudo on it because I find it easier to deal with then logging in as root for a single command but to each their own
[16:27] <gartral> Eisenhowerz: what are you building?
[16:28] <Pici> Eisenhowerz: Other than -dev packages that could be build-dependencies for whatever you're compiling, no.
[16:28] <bazhang> edgar__, right click panel add to choose applet then find the nm-applet
[16:28] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys is there a command in terminal to create a file that will give me a directory and file listing so i can print out?
[16:28] <PerryArmstrong> i installed klavaro and the entire language is in a local language...how can i get it to english
[16:28] <grawity> ForzaPalermo: Something like this? ls > filelist.txt
[16:28] <Slart> ForzaPalermo: ls > somefile.txt  might work
[16:29] <limpc> Halitech: yeah :) I've got nothing against sudo.  I would prefer regular users to use sudo on boxes.  Just dont think it should be treated as taboo and instilled into newbsa as "avoid unless no other choice" mentality.  it makes for a very "green" generation of linux people.
[16:29] <Eisenhowerz> Pici: awesome,   You have any idea of a tutorial for i guess equiv to linux in windows programing?  gtk programing?
[16:29] <ForzaPalermo> grawity: Slart looks like the windows command
[16:29] <edgar__> thanx bazhang
[16:29] <morris1> anybody know how i can prevent rhythmbox from removing a song from the play queue after it has been played?
[16:29] <bazhang> limpc, Halitech please continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:29] <Dulak> Halitech: first thing I do on any distro is install sudo and disable root, the audit trail alone is worth the hassle
[16:29] <Slart> ForzaPalermo: you use ls on your windows boxes? =)
[16:29] <Eisenhowerz> Pici: I guess i'm talking about gnome gui?
[16:29] <ForzaPalermo> Slart: lol
[16:29] <ForzaPalermo> u know what i mean
[16:29] <ForzaPalermo> ls = dir
[16:29] <grawity> Slart: I do..
[16:29] <Pici> Eisenhowerz: I don't, but ##c++ might.  You'll probably have to be registered to nickserv to join though.
[16:30] <ForzaPalermo> can you do it for the whol drive though?
[16:30] <Eisenhowerz> Pici: thnaks
[16:30] <maccam94> is it normal for a 2.5GHz core 2 duo with a 9800M GT to have laggy video playback in flash?
[16:30] <ForzaPalermo> and not a certain directory
[16:30] <Slart> ForzaPalermo: yes.. pipes work the same in linux as in windows.. only better and bigger
[16:30] <gartral> maccam94: useing flashplayer non-free or free?
[16:30] <maccam94> non-free
[16:30] <Halitech> Dulak, limpc bazhang over there now
[16:30] <grawity> ForzaPalermo: For a recursive list of files, try: find / \! -type d
[16:30] <gartral> morning all, anyone have any difivulty getting a memorex cdrw drive to read disks?
[16:31] <JoeKerr> is there any easy way to connect ubuntu to a windows network?
[16:31] <moncky> maccam94: that would depend on the quality of your net connection
[16:31] <maccam94> 10mbit fios
[16:31] <limpc> im done :P just looking for help with Miro :)
[16:31] <Slart> !samba | JoeKerr
[16:31] <grawity> ForzaPalermo: Both bash on Linux and cmd.exe on Windows have the same basic redirection -- > to write a file, < to read, | for pipe.
[16:31] <maccam94> sound keeps going, but the video keeps stopping, and then fast forwarding to catch up to the audio
[16:31] <gartral> maccam94: are you using flashplayer non-free?
[16:31] <maccam94> sometimes causes the video to jump back to where it froze
[16:32] <maccam94> gartral: yes
[16:32] <ForzaPalermo> grawity: what does that find command do for me?
[16:32] <limpc> Miro <-- wants libtorrent-rasterbar2 + python-libtorrent.  libtorrent-rasterbar2 <-- does not want python-libtorrent.  how to fix? :P
[16:32] <gartral> maccam94: thats your problem, switch of for the the free one and see if it helps
[16:32] <grawity> ForzaPalermo: Find all non-directories in /
[16:32] <maccam94> gartral: i thought gnash was incomplete?
[16:32] <ForzaPalermo> does it write a file?
[16:32] <ForzaPalermo> a text file
[16:32] <gartral> maccam94: not gnash, swfdec
[16:32] <ForzaPalermo> or do i need to add > text.txt
[16:32] <ForzaPalermo> or something
[16:32] <grawity> ForzaPalermo: No, you still have to redirect it using "> filelist.txt"
[16:32] <limpc> oh and python-libtorrent <-- requires libtorrent-rasterbar4. :)
[16:33] <moltenbobcat> gartral: do you get better performance out of swfdec?
[16:33] <ForzaPalermo> grawity: so that command will give me directoryhs and files in those subdirectories?
[16:33] <moltenbobcat> does it work on hulu?
[16:33] <grawity> ForzaPalermo: Yes.
[16:33] <maccam94> i can play flash files in mplayer/vlc fine
[16:33] <root> how do i type # on ubuntu?
[16:33] <gartral> moltenbobcat: I do, yes, and every system ive seen it running on is deffinatly better
[16:33] <maccam94> the browser plugin is the problem
[16:33] <grawity> Guest90433: Um, using the # key?
[16:33] <ForzaPalermo> ok i will give it a whirl
[16:33] <ForzaPalermo> thank you
[16:33] <moncky> maccam94: are you streaming the movies to mplayer? or are they saved locally?
[16:34] <moltenbobcat> gartral: so does it embed into the browser the same way to handle like youtube and other flash video sites?
[16:34] <limpc> lol. root is here.  go sic 'em Dulak :P
[16:34] <gartral> maccam94: you have too uninstall the adobe one before installing a new one
[16:34] <gartral> moltenbobcat: yes, with the sole exception that adds a large "Play" button where the video will be after you press it
[16:34] <georg> keine Ahnung!
[16:34] <Guest90433> grawity: Well it wont work..
[16:35] <gartral> I cant get md5deep too read a cd..
[16:35] <moltenbobcat> gartral: hmm, but it goes away while the video is playing... i'll have to try it on my netbook because flash plays like a dog on it
[16:36] <Blizzerand> Does adobe Flash Professional work properly on wine
[16:36] <bazhang> Blizzerand, check the appdb
[16:36] <gartral> moltenbobcat: yes, it work fine after you hit the grey play button, the script runs and the videos play nicely... though, my system HATES youtube for some reason, no decoder seems too work for me
[16:36] <limpc> Blizzerand: I havent had much luck with flash stuff in Wine. (counting Flex Builder)
[16:37] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org Blizzerand
[16:37] <limpc> Blizzerand: even with Crossover.
[16:37] <gartral> the system im on now, anywho
[16:37] <Blizzerand> bazhang , limpc : k
[16:37] <sid_> Hey does any one know about the bluetooth integration with pulseaudio thru google Soc?
[16:37] <sid_> How far is it along?
[16:38] <sid_> Just cant seem to fly in jaunty
[16:38] <richardcavell> How does one use remote desktop to help a guy solve his computer problems?  Is it possible to view someone's desktop remotely over the Internet?
[16:38] <limpc> Blizzerand: you could use virtualbox
[16:38] <Halitech> richardcavell, windows computer or linux?
[16:38] <richardcavell> Halitech: Both linux
[16:38] <Blizzerand> limpc : Whats that
[16:39] <cfm> Hi, how can I tell whether an installed machine is running a 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?
[16:39] <Halitech> richardcavell, you could try ssh -x IPaddress
[16:39] <grawity> Halitech: That won't forward an exsisting desktop.
[16:39] <limpc> Blizzerand: virtualization container. you can install a win32 flavor on it and launch/terminate it without rebooting
[16:39] <richardcavell> Halitech: that gets me a command-line, not a GUI, right?
[16:39] <limpc> Blizzerand: http://www.virtualbox.org/
[16:39] <Halitech> cfm, uname -a
[16:39] <grawity> richardcavell: ssh -x enables "X forwarding" - but it won't give you the already-running applications.
[16:39] <limpc> Blizzerand: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[16:39] <Blizzerand> limpc : Ok . I'll try that
[16:40] <Halitech> grawity, thought you could forward an existing x session over ssh?
[16:40] <grawity> richardcavell: So it probably is not what you want.
[16:40] <grawity> Halitech: Nope
[16:40] <richardcavell> grawity: I'm keen to see what it looks like.
[16:40] <limpc> Blizzerand: also if your hardware supports virtualization in the bios, enable it (mine does, i have a gigabyte MA770-UD3)
[16:40] <DasEi> richardcavell: you could by use of rdesktop, but compared to ssh it's not very secure, better mind Halit..
[16:40] <Halitech> grawity, ok, never tried it so wasn't aware of that
[16:40] <th0r> richardcavell: you can set up vnc so you can control his desktop while he watches
[16:40] <Lo_Pan> nx runs over ssh
[16:40] <grawity> DasEi: RDP is secure already.
[16:40] <Lo_Pan> and will hand you new or used sessions
[16:40] <gartral> Halitech: if you want to rremotly veiw your already running apps, use xdmp
[16:40] <cfm> Halitech: Linux UIP-02 2.6.24-19-server #1 SMP Wed Jun 18 15:18:00 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:40] <Blizzerand> limpc : Does it run on 32 bit
[16:40] <limpc> yes
[16:40] <leaf-sheep> richardcavell: VNC is laggy.  You could install scrot and send the picture your way.
[16:41] <DasEi> grawity: no more plain passes ?
[16:41] <richardcavell> Gee, all these options
[16:41] <Halitech> cfm, you are running 32bit
[16:41] <cfm> Halitech: uname -m is machine architecture, not software isn't it?
[16:41] <cfm> Ah - what gives it away?
[16:41] <grawity> richardcavell: Okay, if you want to try it, connect using ssh -X (uppercase X), and then just run a n X application.
[16:41] <moltenbobcat> I think nx is the way to go if it's a linux server if your talking about a windows box well rdp is obvous
[16:41] <Halitech> cfm, -a gives you everything ... this does i686 GNU/Linux
[16:41] <grawity> DasEi: In the new RDP version, they're supposed to be encrypted.
[16:41] <richardcavell> grawity: Okay
[16:41] <stefano88> salut
[16:42] <DasEi> grawity: thanks hint
[16:42] <olinuxx> yop
[16:42] <sid_> I know this has been an old old issue but Can any one tell me how to move the stream from my Intel Snd card to Bluetooth headset... I have installed Blueman and Pulse audio 0.9.15  and am able to pair the device using blueman...
[16:42] <richardcavell> grawity: Do you want to connect to my linux box just so I can see what it's like?  I trust you :)
[16:42] <cfm> Halitech: What should it say for a 64-bit install?
[16:42] <sid_> Any help appreciated...
[16:42] <Lo_Pan> in general its not a bad idea to put stuff like rdp/vnc/etc behind a vpn or ssh if you want to access it over the net
[16:42] <ForzaPalermo> grawity: hey thank you that did it.... my hard drive is dying and  i need to replace all my downloads, and there are swo many i would never remember what i would have to redownload
[16:42] <ForzaPalermo> thanks again buddy
[16:42] <Halitech> cfm, on mine it says x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:42] <grawity> richardcavell: I could try, but you wouldn't see anything - if I started an application over SSH, it would be displayed on my desktop.
[16:43] <richardcavell> okay
[16:43] <stefano88> !list
[16:43] <cfm> Halitech: I understand, many thanks for your help!
[16:43] <Halitech> cfm, np
[16:44] <limpc> Halitech: i downgraded from 64-bit yesterday
[16:44] <StrangeCharm> how can i force a command to run at startup?
[16:44] <grawity> richardcavell: That's how X11 forwarding works - an application runs on the ssh server, but it's displayed on the user's desktop as if it were a local one.
[16:44] <Halitech> limpc, why?
[16:44] <limpc> Halitech: had issues with AIR apps. apparently Adobe offically only supports 32 bit
[16:44] <gartral> I cant get md5deep too read a cd..
[16:44] <Halitech> limpc, ahh, don't use them myself
[16:44] <azlon> when both my eth1 and wlan0 are enabled, my internet (coming from wlan0) doesnt work... when i disable eth1 the internet starts working again... any ideas on how to fix this?
[16:44] <limpc> Halitech: you can get it working kinda by installing ia32 libs
[16:45] <DasEi> StrangeCharm: put it in rc.local
[16:45] <limpc> Halitech: however its very buggy and stuff "vanishes" from them.  I also had issues with a sluggish UI (im running an AMDx64, maybe its processor specific)
[16:45] <StrangeCharm> thanks DasEi
[16:45] <gartral> azlon: im assuming your connection too the wired network over eth1 is too the same router as wlan0?
[16:45] <azlon> gartral: no, two different routers (both wifi though)
[16:46] <JeZ-l-Lee> I have ubuntu Linux 9.04 32bit but my two audio chips are not currently supported - Anyone know when the next release will be made available? I think what I have now was released in April 2009
[16:46] <Halitech> limpc, I have the ia32 libs installed (don't remember why now) and I have a AMD 5200+ with no issues
[16:46] <gartral> azlon: are these routers connected too each other *anywhere* "down the line"?
[16:46] <richardcavell> grawity: if you were to ssh to my puter, would I have to create a new user account for you?
[16:46] <limpc> Halitech: no idea then :) didnt have alot of time to troubleshoot so just plugged in my netinstall USB thumb and rebooted hehe
[16:46] <richardcavell> JeZ-l-Lee: Next release is in October 2009
[16:46] <sid_> Can any one tell me how to move the stream from my Intel Snd card to Bluetooth headset... I have installed Blueman and Pulse audio 0.9.15 in jaunty and am able to pair the device using blueman... But cant see the sound stream in Pulse..
[16:47] <grawity> richardcavell: Probably. I cannot ssh without knowing an existing username/password.
[16:47] <uefgi> hi, using ubuntu netbook remix with maximus, whenever i maximize a java window, it turns grey. when i unmaximize it again, the content returns. how to fix this?
[16:47] <Halitech> limpc, I also use debian lenny with XFCE, I find too much bloat in most of the newer releases of Ubuntu
[16:47] <praet> Is there a simple way to remove the extra config/services/etc files when you uninstall a package?
[16:47]  * arthurL is away: I may or may not actually be away...
[16:47] <limpc> Halitech: yep, xfce rocks. faster than gnome too.
[16:47] <gartral> richardcavell: your putter runs an OS? that must be a nice golfing enhancer!
[16:47] <richardcavell> lol
[16:47] <elli222> WOOT! i just compiled 0 A.D!
[16:47] <praet> for example: if i uninstall amavis, there still remains an amavis init script
[16:48] <azlon> gartral: no, the one on my eth1 is only connected to this computer and two other windows based computers (which have no other connections). the one on the wlan0 is going straight to the internet, nothing else on my other router
[16:48] <leaf-sheep> praet: Use purge option instead of remove. However, you'll have to remove the folder manually in your $HOME directory.  Really, you have rooms. Don't bother, I suppose.
[16:48] <elli222> Now, on a side note, please stop changing the names of libraries. it breaks things.
[16:48] <Halitech> limpc, only thing I don't like is the lack of networking support like nautilus has
[16:48] <limpc> Halitech: admittedly, i was using gnome at the time.  however im directly comparing gnome on 32 and 64 bit kernels. just ran very slow on 64 compared to 32.  was a fresh install and i wasnt using compiz so was definitely something somewhere in the default install
[16:48] <Pici> !away > arthurL
[16:48] <praet> thanks leaf-sheep
[16:48] <loser> Hello, I have a noob question. I somehow lost my Shutdown button, in the QUIT window.  I have my ~/.gnupg on an USB drive (symlinked). On GNOME, I can specify the default umask for gnome-volume-manager. On Xfce I can't, and thunar-volman mounts my flashdrive with umask 000 - so all files have perms 0777, and GnuPG breaks.
[16:49] <gartral> azlon: mmmk... im not sure how, but you need too specify that the Internet is only reachable over wlan0... by default the system will try and use an ethX connection over a wlanX connection
[16:49] <grawity> limpc: So I'm now using GNOME with Xfwm4 :)
[16:50] <zenlunatic> loser, right click on the panel and add, then user switcher
[16:50] <limpc> grawity: :) im still waiting for xfce to allow drag-and-drop of app menu items to the panels :P
[16:50] <azlon> gartral: hrmm... i will google some more... let me know if you think of anything
[16:50] <loser> thanks
[16:50] <sid_> Can any one tell me how to move the stream from my Intel Snd card to Bluetooth headset... I have installed Blueman and Pulse audio 0.9.15 in jaunty and am able to pair the device using blueman... But cant see the sound stream in Pulse..
[16:50] <loser> I aprecciate that
[16:50] <Halitech> limpc, I know I can run gnome (or kde) apps but I don't want to add a bunch of gnome dependencies and 90percent of the time I don't have any computers to connect to so I just use thumb drives to transfer files
[16:50] <redzen> bonjour à tous
[16:51] <grawity> limpc: Ever tried using gnome panels instead?
[16:51] <bazhang> redzen, #ubuntu-fr pour francais
[16:51] <limpc> grawity: nope, didnt know you could.
[16:51] <mun24> how to configure wpa-psk on the wifi card
[16:51] <grawity> limpc: I don't know that either. (Probably not.)
[16:51] <DasEi> richardcavell: http://stebalien.com/2009/05/grdc-very-good-graphical-vnc-viewer-for.html
[16:51] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 mun24
[16:52] <limpc> grawity: would make sense that you cant, considering the panels are an extension of the windowmanager, not separate apps
[16:52] <grawity> limpc: But then, why does GNOME (along with its panels) work with Xfwm4, Xfce's window manager?
[16:53] <uefgi> hi, using ubuntu netbook remix 9.04 with maximus, whenever i maximize a java window, it turns grey. when i unmaximize it again, the content returns. is there a way to fix this?
[16:53] <limpc> grawity: no idea lol. i havent used xfwm4 actually.  im checking it out now tho ;)
[16:53] <DasEi> richardcavell: what do you think of it ?
[16:54] <richardcavell> DasEi: I guess it looks good, but I'm keen to keep things simple
[16:54] <sid_> Can any one tell me how to move the stream from my Intel Snd card to Bluetooth headset... I have installed Blueman and Pulse audio 0.9.15 in jaunty and am able to pair the device using blueman... But cant see the sound stream in Pulse..
[16:54] <th0r> grawity: the desktop and the wm are two different things, you can run xfwm4 in gnome and get all the gnome functions, but you can't run all gnome items in xfce4
[16:54] <DasEi> richardcavell: that seems very simple to me
[16:55] <richardcavell> DasEi: Perhaps. I still need to learn how to do all this
[16:55] <coldboot> I upgraded to 9.04, and X just hangs: http://superuser.com/questions/7206/upgrading-ubuntu-to-9-04-breaks-ati-video-card-driver-vesa-and-ati-radeon-driv
[16:55] <coldboot> Does anyone know how to get X working in Jaunty with an ATI card?
[16:55] <Threetimes> Hi, I have 2 different-sized screens. 1440*900 and 1024*768. How do I use both at the highest resolution?
[16:56] <Threetimes> Oh, and I use compiz.
[16:56] <dnielsen> coldboot: you install it, you boot it up and voila
[16:56] <gartral> coldboot: not a whole lot of info there, like, what card specifically?
[16:56] <DasEi> richardcavell: I'd like to try that, so if you want, open a pm and lets try to connect
[16:56] <coldboot> gartral: http://superuser.com/questions/7206/upgrading-ubuntu-to-9-04-breaks-ati-video-card-driver-vesa-and-ati-radeon-driv
[16:57] <Threetimes> coldboot: download and install the latest drivers from ati
[16:57] <coldboot> already did
[16:57] <Threetimes> what version?
[16:57] <coldboot> doesnt hang, but shows blank screen
[16:57] <Threetimes> and what card?
[16:57] <coldboot> 9.6
[16:57] <gartral> coldboot: what card... please answer my question
[16:57] <cfm> coldboot: "This site is currently in private beta testing"
[16:57] <coldboot> look at the link
[16:57] <Threetimes> I use 9.4 with a HD 2600XT
[16:57] <coldboot> ah crap
[16:58] <Trek222> could any of yall help me set up my sixaxis controller for xubuntu on my ps3
[16:58] <gartral> coldboot: the link isnt working, please, just answer my question
[16:58] <coldboot> rv610
[16:58] <Trek222> tried like 3 guides
[16:58] <coldboot> hd 2400 xt
[16:58] <Threetimes> coldboot: you might try this: http://peter-server.homelinux.net/fxglrx/
[16:58] <Threetimes> that's exactly what i'm using atm.
[16:58] <Threetimes> Hi, I have 2 different-sized screens. 1440*900 and 1024*768. How do I use both at the highest resolution? I use compiz.
[16:59] <coldboot> threetimes why that version? what version of ubuntu?
[16:59] <Threetimes> 9.04
[16:59] <coldboot> sorry guys im typing on a stupid netbook, its impossible to type on this
[16:59] <gartral> coldboot: the easy way would be to back up your ./home dir and do a clean install
[16:59] <noireaude> bonsoir
[16:59] <Tetracomm> Lawd, poor coldboot.
[17:00] <coldboot> my card is an rv610 radeon hd 1400 xt
[17:00] <JoeKerr> is it normal for ubuntu to be so hard to connect to a network?
[17:00] <coldboot> ubutnu needs to test the fglrx driver with new kernels before forcing upgrades, this is absurd
[17:00] <fragalot> coldboot: you're absurd.
[17:01] <fragalot> That is all *retreats back to his cave*
[17:01] <coldboot> for several years, after ubuntu updates, my fglrx driver breaks
[17:01] <coldboot> almost every single time
[17:01] <[Behemoth]SDK> Hi everyone! I am a total newbie to Linux, will install ubuntu and wanna know what the most important issues are for running smooth and avoiding just sitting gazing at the screen with no idea how to fix it :)
[17:01] <[Behemoth]SDK> Although I´ve used debian before, didn´t work out well
[17:01] <Halitech> coldboot, no one forces you to upgrade
[17:02] <gartral> coldboot: file a bug report/go raise point in #ubuntu-dev.. but keep in mind, the ATI drivers are inherently broken for all linux oses
[17:02] <Halitech> [Behemoth]SDK, have a second system around so you can google things
[17:02] <[Behemoth]SDK> Halitech: for example one XP partition and one ubuntu?
[17:03] <coldboot> I can
[17:03] <[Behemoth]SDK> Halitech: Do I have to code a few lines or so when I use ubuntu?
[17:03] <coldboot> I cant even get vesa, ati, or radeon to work, they all hang the system
[17:03] <coldboot> they all hang when i start x
[17:03] <coldboot> is there any way to downgrade back to 8.10?
[17:04] <grawity> [Behemoth]SDK: Ubuntu is a Linux OS, so you will need to type a few commands to the Terminal once in a while, but that shouldn't happen often. It isn't programming either.
[17:04] <Halitech> [Behemoth]SDK, thats an option although I find having a second system you can use while having the non-working system up to be better ... and no, no coing required but might need to use the terminal to fix a few issues
[17:04] <rmorales> Moncho
[17:05] <FeasibilityStudy> OK I installed FF 3.5.1 via Ubuntuzilla.  However, Flash is not being recognized.  Do I need to put the Flash binary in a different location?  It's currently in ~.mozilla/plugins
[17:05] <lavida> f
[17:05] <lavida> have someone alfa awus 036H to work nice with ubuntu driver?
[17:05] <lavida> wireless card
[17:05] <lavida> anyone use alfa wireless card?
[17:05] <bruenig> lavida: calm down
[17:05] <gartral> coldboot: also, the hd cards have toruble lately because ATI refuses to impliment the hdmi controller for the linux drivers.. but this is OT here
[17:05] <nhooey> I'm also coldboot
[17:05] <rmorales> hi can someone help me with ubuntu stududio qsynth is not working
[17:05] <nhooey> Got irssi working on my machine now. Can type properly finally.
[17:05] <mun24> how to use wpa_supplicant ?
[17:06] <bruenig> !ot | nhooey
[17:06] <nhooey> Yeah I actually used to work on the ATI Linux driver team when I was in university.
[17:06] <nhooey> Their driver was crap then, and it's just as crap now.
[17:06] <bruenig> !wpa | mun24
[17:06] <agelin> ..
[17:06] <nhooey> Their linux support will always be awful, because they don't really care.
[17:06] <what_if> can anyone recommend an http server that I can start standalone (no inetd) and run as user on unprivilaged port? On with No CGI support and directory listing? Apache and others are overkill. I'm sharing a dozen files on a lan.
[17:06] <nhooey> I'm at work, though, and they bought crappy dell machines with ATI cards in them.
[17:06] <[Behemoth]SDK> Graviton & Halitech: Oh ok, I found a swedish book on ubuntu on a swedish site, would it be worth to put like 35 bucks in 250 pages before using ubuntu? What language is the code in the terminal?
[17:06] <sid_> Can any one tell me how to move the stream from my Intel Snd card to Bluetooth headset... I have installed Blueman and Pulse audio 0.9.15 in jaunty and am able to pair the device using blueman... But cant see the sound stream in Pulse..
[17:06] <sagredo> holler #ubuntu
[17:06] <bruenig> what_if: lighttpd is probably the best for what you are looking for
[17:06] <gartral> what_if: dir2html
[17:07] <grawity> what_if: How about thttpd?
[17:07] <gartral> !info dir2html | what_if
[17:07] <what_if> lol, ty. Will look at those 3
[17:07] <what_if> hmmm... those 2
[17:07]  * grawity wouldn't call lighttpd "light", tbh
[17:07] <ackbahr> Hi!
[17:07] <grawity> what_if: There's also nginx
[17:08] <Halitech> [Behemoth]SDK, depends on what you set your default locale to
[17:08] <archman> is there a gftp irc channel?
[17:08] <[Behemoth]SDK> Halitech: whats the "default locale"? Sorry if I ask stupid questions :(
[17:08] <ackbahr> What's the syntax if I have a file containing a list of packages and for each of them I want the result of apt-cache search?
[17:08] <gartral> what_if: lighttpd requires privleged port, IIRC
[17:08] <sid_> Can any one tell me how to move the stream from my Intel Snd card to Bluetooth headset... I have installed Blueman and Pulse audio 0.9.15 in jaunty and am able to pair the device using blueman... But cant see the sound stream in Pulse. any help appreciated guys
[17:09] <what_if> gardar: ty.... thats one of the main issues
[17:09] <Halitech> [Behemoth]SDK, the default locale is where you tell the installer you live and its sets the language, etc
[17:09] <grawity> gartral, what_if: lighttpd, like any other webserver, can bind to any port you want. I have it on :8080
[17:09] <sagredo> can someone help me fsck my usb harddrive that is formated "HPFS/NTFS"
[17:09] <sagredo> aka /dev/sdb1
[17:10] <FeasibilityStudy> Anyone else had trouble with Flash on FF 3.5.1?
[17:10] <stewart_> whats the best way to stop a process from running at startup?
[17:10] <sagredo> I umount'd it, and now when I cycle the usb connection the icon/drive is not recognized by ubuntu
[17:10] <grawity> sagredo: It's probably NTFS (as HPFS is not used anymore), so you'll need either a) Windows, or b) ntfsprogs package.
[17:10] <gartral> stewart_: blacklist
[17:10] <sagredo> grawity: what is ntfsprogs?
[17:10] <stewart_> gartral:  is that a command?
[17:10] <nhooey> gartral: What do you think might be wrong if Xorg is hanging whenever I use vesa or ati/radeon?
[17:11] <grawity> sagredo: It's an Ubuntu package that contains various NTFS utilities, including (I think) fsck.ntfs
[17:11] <nhooey> Is there any way you can downgrade Ubuntu from 9.04 to 8.10?
[17:11] <grawity> sagredo: Install it from the terminal (apt-get install ntfsprogs) or Synaptic.
[17:11] <Pici> nhooey: No, that is not supported.
[17:11] <gartral> nhooey: again, your BEST shot at repairing the system is to !clean install
[17:12] <sagredo> grawity: thanks my friend
[17:12] <grooverider> Anyone here running ubuntu on a macbook?
[17:12] <blackgraz> nhooey: just reinstall 8.10 and dont format your / partition
[17:12] <grooverider> Just wondering how the suspend on lid shut performs in comparison to OS X
[17:12] <sid_> Can any one tell me how to move the stream from my Intel Snd card to Bluetooth headset... I have installed Blueman and Pulse audio 0.9.15 in jaunty and am able to pair the device using blueman... But cant see the sound stream in Pulse. any help appreciated guys
[17:12] <gartral> grooverider: ive had a bit of experience with installing Ubuntu (and slack) onto macs, whats your prob?
[17:13] <Threetimes> Hi, I have 2 different-sized screens. 1440*900 and 1024*768. How do I use both at the highest resolution? I use compiz.
[17:13] <gartral> blackgraz nhooey WOAW! BAD idea!
[17:14] <grooverider> gartral: No problem really, just thinking about dumping OS X entirely. But want to make sure the suspend stuff works as well as OS X.
[17:14] <blackgraz> wouldnt hurt anything more
[17:14] <sagredo> grawity: any idea what to do with this package now?
[17:14] <sagredo> grawity: I'm running through the mans but no bright ideas
[17:14] <gartral> grooverider: is it an NVidia pwered mac?
[17:15] <stewart_> how do i blacklist a process from starting at boot?
[17:15] <grooverider> gartral: I think it's got the intel video chipset- it's a white macbook 2,1.
[17:16] <gartral> grooverider: in mac go too Apple menu>About This mac.. if its an NVidia based mac, it will show there..
[17:16] <grooverider> It's not nvidia based
[17:16] <linduxed> after reboot, i have no network interfaces
[17:16] <linduxed> i've tried checking if it has something to do with the kernel, but the problem persists on both the kernel that worked an hour ago and on the current one
[17:17] <gartral> grooverider: your all good, when you go too install, hold option+C at boot with the Ubuntu disk in the drive too have the system start from the cd
[17:17] <lavida> does anyone have problem to use alfa wireless card with ubuntu driver
[17:18] <lavida> does anyone have problem with ubuntu rtl driver
[17:18] <linduxed> if it is of any help it happened the reboot after an update that wanted me to reboot
[17:18] <linduxed> probably because of the kernel
[17:18] <linduxed> headers and stuff
[17:18] <gartral> lavida: i cant find anything specific too that manufactuer, can you run lspci | grep wireless
[17:19] <rufensis> Anyone have time for a bizarre audio problem on an HP dv 7 running 8.04?  The sound on occasion and for no easily identifiable reason suddenly starts to sound distorted, choppy, and almost slowed down.  It does this on all video, audio, mp3, flash, avi.
[17:19] <agelin> hey
[17:19] <agelin> ..
[17:19] <Threetimes> Hi, I have 2 different-sized screens. 1440*900 and 1024*768. How do I use both at the highest resolution? I use compiz.
[17:20] <gartral> rufensis: that sounds like ALSA not having a high enough prioity, either go about finding how to elevate its priority on boot, or simply install OSS
[17:20] <gartral> Threetimes: what kind of gfx card?
[17:20] <rufensis> gatral: what is oss?
[17:20] <gartral> !oss | rufensis
[17:20] <gartral> !info oss | rufensis
[17:21] <gartral> who removed the OSS factoid?!?
[17:21] <brano> hi there. I have a problem with write permissions. When I create directory with php function mkdir('dirpath', 0777); , that folder is NOT world writable as it should be, even the rights are set to 777 when creating the directory. The directory is only writable if I run $ sudo chmod -R 777 directory. Any ideas how can I solve this problem? How can I make wordl writable directory with php?
[17:22] <leaf-sheep> gartral: You sure you had a right commend?
[17:22] <gartral> rufensis: OSS is the Open Sound System, supposedly depreciated by pulse, but i feel pulse is the *most* buggy sound server availible, oss seems too have the lowest overhead on proccessing and at least in my system, is the only sound system that plays real time
[17:22] <gartral> !OSS
[17:22] <gartral> leaf-sheep: yep
[17:23] <rufensis> gartal: thanks.  i agree with your pulse comments.  i think i'll try to elevate alsa and then check out oss
[17:23] <BromaxSux> brano: this is more of a php question but i belive the problem is that the php/apache user hasnt got the permission to write?
[17:24] <J_Litewski> How would I execute a shell script ONLY in the terminal?
[17:25] <gartral> rufensis: dont get me wrong, on many systems, pulse is great, if a bit bloated, but there are better ways... (JACK + OSS/ALSA/ESD can do the same things pulse can)
[17:25] <stewart_> how do i stop programs from loading at startup ubuntu
[17:26] <brano> BromaxSux: but I do not understand why it's not world writable, because I run xampp with root privileges... I think this is problem with ubuntu ... I am using xampp and in archlinux everything worked well...
[17:26] <rufensis> gartral: are other linux distros using pulse yet?
[17:27] <tonii> Mandriva is
[17:27] <fragalot> Gentoo can be. if you set it up that way
[17:27] <gartral> rufensis: i dont know, im pretty sure mandriva is, and i think fedora is, but im not certain
[17:27] <eirikb> Hello. Is there some way to select workspace with my mouse more easily? (Like onOSX 10.5 you can move your mouse down to a corner and get a simple GUI for selecting workspace).
[17:28] <awake> how can i delete a shortcut i made in /usr/share/applications
[17:28] <negledabs> if desktop effects are enabled, the scrollwheel will change back and forth
[17:28] <awake> it says permission denied
[17:28] <J_Litewski> I made a shell script that only works corectly if it's run in the terminal. How would I force it to always run in a terminal if you double click it?
[17:28] <gartral> eirikb: with compiz your scroll wheel on the desktop will flip workspaces
[17:28] <eirikb> gartral: I don't use compiz
[17:29] <eirikb> gartral: Oh it works without compiz also
[17:29] <gartral> eirikb: your SOL AFAIK.. :/
[17:29] <gartral> eirikb: ohh, goody! :P
[17:29] <eirikb> gartral: Although, with my 9 workspaces it's not a optimal solution
[17:29] <eirikb> I've heard there should be something mac-lookalike, but I haven't found
[17:29] <gartral> eirikb: 9!?! why does ANYONE need 9 workspaces?
[17:29] <negledabs> :D
[17:30] <revygttam> eirikb, cant you just use the workplace switcher on the panel?
[17:30] <awake> nvm i found out
[17:30] <etrcap> i can see my real name when i right click it (in xchat) ! how do  i change this?
[17:30] <brano> eirikb: screenlets does have nice workspace switcher also if you do not like workspace switcher in gnome panel
[17:30] <eirikb> gartral: Oh you know, one for terminal remote, one for firefox, one for NetBeans, one for Textfiles(docs), one for Terminal local, one for music, one for pgadmin and other tools, and two to go :D
[17:31] <BromaxSux> brano: instead of the php function mkdir(), try to shell execute with `mkdir()` and see if this yields the desired result
[17:31] <gartral> eirikb: really... i mean, in BeOS/Haiku it can be considered usefull cause you can run each workspace at different res/bit depths and such.. but 9 in Gnome is.. just a waste
[17:31] <soreau> etrcap: XChat>Network List
[17:31] <brano> BromaxSux: i'll try it
[17:31] <eirikb> gartral: Why? I think it works nice
[17:31] <petx> hi all... I try to install flash player on firefox...
[17:31] <soreau> etrcap: There in the Real Name field
[17:31] <gartral> eirikb: look at your RAM...
[17:31] <petx> hi all... I try to install flash player on firefox...any idea??
[17:31] <etrcap> soreau what about my ip do i need a proxy?
[17:32] <eirikb> gartral: It's either 4 or 9. My 16 gig of ram don't care ;)
[17:32] <gartral> !flash | petx
[17:32] <soreau> etrcap: Not if you don't have a proxy and it's already working
[17:32] <brano> i have also 9 workspaces and i don't find them as a waste
[17:32] <gartral> eirikb: ok.. well.. on aa workstation like your maybe...
[17:32] <etrcap> soreau: i dont have a proxy; everyone can see my ip. how do i change  this?
[17:33] <soreau> etrcap: I have no idea
[17:33] <eirikb> gartral: I would probably have 9 on a less powerfull one too. As I said, it's 9 or 4, I'll go with 9
[17:34] <eirikb> brano: How does it work?
[17:35] <eirikb> brano: The point is that I want to change workspace with my mouse, without having to do precision work on my gnome panel
[17:35] <Halitech> eirikb, putting my mouse in an empty space and moving the scroll wheel changes mine
[17:36] <eirikb> Halitech: Empty space?
[17:36] <eirikb> Ah inside the "workspace"-box?
[17:36] <Halitech> eirikb, someplace that isnt covered by an application on the desktop
[17:36] <revygttam> Halitech, isnt that compoiz that lets you do that?
[17:36] <eirikb> It seems I can't do that
[17:36] <Halitech> revygttam, I don't use compiz
[17:37] <Halitech> maybe its an XFCE thing
[17:37] <brano> eirikb: so you can install compiz fusion and use expose if you'd like to see all workspaces when you move cursor to the corner... or you can install screenlets (from repositories) and have a workspace switcher of size that you want... that widget is called pager
[17:37] <jasiek> server
[17:37] <revygttam> Halitech, i know i can do the thing. Im just thought that was part of compiz. eirikb, check desktop effects in appearance
[17:38] <Halitech> revygttam, it might be on gnome
[17:38] <eirikb> revygttam: I'm not using compiz no
[17:38] <eirikb> brano: So using compiz is the best way?
[17:38] <uefgi> hi, using ubuntu netbook remix 9.04 with maximus, whenever i maximize a java window, it turns grey. when i unmaximize it again, the content returns. is there a way to fix this?
[17:39] <eirikb> brano: I had a look at pager, it's not very helpful
[17:39] <hendracengala> join java
[17:39] <Halitech> uefgi, dont maximize?
[17:40] <uefgi> Halitech: that's not a solution.
[17:40] <Invitado05> hi
[17:40] <grick> hello everybody, a simple question: firefox will be officially upgraded ( one day ) to 3.5.x version or i have to manually do it?
[17:40] <Invitado05> somebody help me
[17:40] <goldbond> hello.
[17:40] <brano> yes, using compiz is the best way how to switch workspaces with mouse.. even i don't have compiz installed... I preffer switching workspaces with keyboard
[17:41] <Halitech> uefgi, if it stops the window from going grey it is, just not the solution you were looking for
[17:41] <eirikb> brano: Yeah me too, but sometimes I'm on my mouse, and I rememeber those days of Leopard :P
[17:41] <goldbond> is anyone around with Tomcat experience? we are experienceing some troubles with the default policies with the ubuntu packaged tomcat.
[17:41] <Invitado05> I cant find out how to configure server at evolution
[17:41] <eirikb> Well thanks for help. Bye
[17:41] <Invitado05> I have hotmail acount
[17:42] <brano> eirikb: :D I see... expose is a nice function :D in kubuntu you can use that function also without compiz... (: but not in gnome... :-(
[17:42] <zortec> morning ubuntu, I have ubuntu and windows installed right now but I want to format the xp partition and reinstall, is that going to create any problems with ubuntu?
[17:42] <grawity> It shouldn't.
[17:42] <rakudave> grick: will probably not happen. they didn't update openoffice3 last time...
[17:43] <Halitech> zortec, you'll need to reinstall grub
[17:43] <grawity> !ff35 | grick
[17:43] <zortec> grawity: It is a dual boot system, so both windows and ubuntu would be residing on that main partition I believe...
[17:43] <Invitado05> somebody know the route at server name for hotmail account?
[17:43] <zortec> That is why I would like to be careful.
[17:43] <zortec> Halitech: I just don't want to lose all my ubuntu files
[17:44] <grawity> zortec: Two OSes on a single partition is a quite rare thing. Try the command "sudo fdisk -l" and see what it prints.
[17:44] <gnubie> Invitado05; http://www.linuxcompatible.org/getting_hotmail_with_evolution_mail_t31060.html
[17:44] <richardcavell> Desai, where'd you go?  My Net dropped out, sorry.
[17:44] <Halitech> zortec, as long as you pick the right partition you should be fine but backup Backup BACKUP before you do anything
[17:45] <zortec> /dev/sda - NTFS and /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda3 - Linux
[17:45] <zortec> can I format within ubuntu my windows partition before I reinstall? have never done that before
[17:46] <grick> grawity, rakudave: thanks, but i'm using 8.10 yet, i will manually upgrade it then
[17:46] <cdw32> hello! Could anyone tell me a good music dl program to use with ubuntu?
[17:46] <grawity> grick: Get the Ubuntuzilla tool.
[17:46] <grawity> zortec: sure, just backup all your files from the NTFS partition.
[17:46] <Fougner> cdw32, dl program? torrent?
[17:46] <DasEi> zortec: install ntfsprograms, then gparted will
[17:46] <grawity> zortec: I guess you'll need ntfsprogs and gparted
[17:46] <sid_> Can any one tell me how to move the stream from my Intel Snd card to Bluetooth headset... I have installed Blueman and Pulse audio 0.9.15 in jaunty and am able to pair the device using blueman... But cant see the sound stream in Pulse. any help appreciated guys
[17:46] <grawity> DasEi: progs*
[17:47] <kjartan_> hi
[17:48] <DasEi> zortec: install ntfsprogs , corrrect packagename, thanks grawity
[17:48] <kjartan_> anyone here using uBuntu 9.04?
[17:48] <Fougner> kjartan_, yep
[17:48] <grawity> kjartan_: Most of us are.
[17:48] <kjartan_> ok
[17:48] <kjartan_> have you noticed the new volume and network indicator, it is also used in Mint 7
[17:48] <chris0> I'm on Windows Vista and I hate Ubuntu but I'm on here anyway :D
[17:48] <zortec> DasEi: I just installed it through aptitude
[17:49] <kjartan_> it's black with a white stripe
[17:49] <cdw32> im still using heron, i cant upgrade to jaunty
[17:49] <Fougner> chris0, that's rude =(
[17:49] <zortec> DasEi: Is there a guide on how to do this? First time
[17:49] <kjartan_> and it is displayed when changing the volume and pops up in the right top corner
[17:49] <DasEi> zortec: same with gparted, if not done, then can format
[17:49] <chris0> Fougner: sry...trying to be funny...failed attempt
[17:49] <Fougner> chris0, tell us some windows jokes instead
[17:49] <armada> #xubuntu
[17:50] <Halitech> Fougner, windows is a joke all on its own
[17:50] <DasEi> zortec: you can handle windows diskmanagement ? gparted is very intuitive, too
[17:50] <zortec> DasEi: Can you also use fdisk to wipe a partition
[17:50] <Fougner> Halitech, good one
[17:50] <erxin> i cant change my VNC port in ubuntu, i tried from gconf-editor and restart my pc but no effect
[17:50] <grawity> Halitech: Micros~1
[17:50] <Fougner> linux = beautiful
[17:51] <StupidWeasel> heh heh yea it can be =3
[17:51] <chris0> Fougner: amen
[17:51] <dgoldstein> hi, i'm having trouble with a cli-powerpc install of ubuntu i can start it up with yaboot fine but it will not let me log in
[17:51] <cdw32> i forgot oabout the torrent program
[17:51] <vise> Though i seriously think it's time for a new os where everything is by a single group from scratch...
[17:51] <cdw32> does anyone know of a good torrent site
[17:51] <grawity> cdw32: http://www.google.com/
[17:52] <kjartan_> anyone know how to get the old volume indicator?
[17:52] <vise> cdw32, www.torrentz.com
[17:52] <sebastian> hi
[17:52] <cdw32> many thanks
[17:52] <vise> kjartan_, Right click panel, add to panel and find it
[17:52] <DasEi> zortec: format or wipe ? fsik-linux is for doing partition, mkfs is what you (wanted) use gparted
[17:52] <Halitech> !ot > cdw32
[17:52] <sebsebseb> hi
[17:53] <zortec> DasEi: I want to wipe what is on my ntfs partition and reinstall the OS
[17:53] <zortec> DasEi: hopefully that makes more sense
[17:53] <erxin> #ubuntu-tr
[17:53] <kjartan_> no, I am not trying to change the icon in the corner
[17:53] <grawity> zortec: Do you want it to be a Windows or Linux partition?
[17:54] <vise> kjartan_, Then?
[17:54] <DasEi> zortec: then wipe is your candiate, man wipe in trml
[17:54] <cdw32> is it worth upgrading from hardy to jaunty?
[17:54] <zortec> grawity: I want it to be a Windows partition alongside the Linux partition for a dual boot system again, so really I just want a clean partition to install Windows
[17:54] <zortec> grawity, DasEi: Sorry if I'm confusing you guys
[17:54] <vise> cdw32, yes
[17:54] <kjartan_> when I change the volume on my computer, there is an black boks with a white line, its kinda like an volume indicator
[17:55] <cdw32> umm how excatyl do i go about that vise
[17:55] <DasEi> zortec: I'm so by default, nvm
[17:55] <marc1> hello
[17:55] <grawity> zortec: Actually, the Windows installer can already do it -- but from Linux, the best option is to use gparted
[17:55] <vise> cdw32, Your native update manager? i am not sure if it's possible.. so any one?
[17:55] <vise> kjartan_, Try changing your theme
[17:56] <zortec> grawity: Would it be better to do it from the Windows installer or Linux? I thought since I was booted into Linux, could just handle the job here
[17:56] <marc1> I've done my first ubuntu installation, every thing is ok except the sound, my acer 6920g laptop does not produce any sound.
[17:56] <Halitech> cdw32, you would need to go to interpid first then to jaunty
[17:57] <cdw32> Halitech, thanks. would you be able to point me in the right direction on how to start that process
[17:57] <grawity> zortec: It's probably the same.
[17:58] <Halitech> cdw32, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1214774&highlight=upgrade+hardy
[17:58] <kjartan_> http://images.google.ie/imgres?imgurl=http://blog.resource.gr/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ubuntu904/ubuntu-notifyosd-bubble.jpg&imgrefurl=http://blog.resource.gr/%3Fp%3D588&usg=__a3PcFqgxq8KVJInI9coKsI9Qz2A=&h=265&w=366&sz=23&hl=en&start=52&um=1&tbnid=lnBepHxmSf38TM:&tbnh=88&tbnw=122&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dubuntu%2Bvolume%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial%26sa%3DN%26start%3D36%2
[17:58] <kjartan_> 6um%3D1
[17:58] <zortec> grawity: Ok, how do I go about reinstalling GRUB since that will be the next step?
[17:58] <marc1> i'm coming from windoze do i don't know where i can find the drivers' list
[17:58] <kjartan_> that is link to the new version
[17:58] <cdw32> thanks halitech
[17:58] <kjartan_> called Jaunty Jackalope
[17:58] <Halitech> cdw32, look at post 8 by bodhi
[17:58] <grawity> zortec: That I don't know :( I installed Windows first.
[17:58] <DasEi> !grub | zortec
[17:58] <kjartan_> and its most notiseble change is the notifcation system
[17:59] <kjartan_> but i quite like the old notification system
[17:59] <Stupendoussteve> Ah yes, libnotify
[17:59] <kjartan_> any ideas how to get the old one?
[17:59] <marc1> i'm under jaunty
[17:59] <Stupendoussteve> Makes it a lot like growl in os x, except no configuration
[17:59] <cdw32> Many thanks halitech..i really have no idea how to get around linux
[17:59] <DasEi> zortec: or google super-grub-disk, if grub was installed before
[17:59] <grawity> How come I don't have that on Ubuntu :/
[17:59] <grawity> Probably removed too much that time.
[17:59] <Stupendoussteve> kjartan_: There are howtos on the forum
[18:00] <michael__> Hi guys - having issues getting pam_krb5 to work under jaunty, is this the right place to get some help?
[18:00] <studentz> I want to buy a Laptop DELL XPS M1330 U.S with Ubuntu installed. But the only color they have for Ubuntu is pink! I want to support Ubuntu But pink is not my color suggestions?
[18:00] <Halitech> cdw32, np, we all started at the same place
[18:00] <Stupendoussteve> studentz: The hardware should be the same on other colors. If you have a blank CD you can download ubuntu
[18:01] <stefg> michael__: you might want ask in #ubuntu-server (too)
[18:01] <grawity> michael__: What is the problem?
[18:01] <studentz> Stupendoussteve  the other colors comes with windows :(
[18:01] <armada> I instaled xubuntu in safe graphic mode and now I can't get out of it
[18:01] <armada> any help ?
[18:02] <armada> please I'm stuck with a little screen :(
[18:02] <zortec> I think I have all the information I need.  Thanks guys, one last thing... what do you suggest for backup solutions? I don't want to keep all the data as most programs I'll just redownload
[18:02] <Halitech> armada, what kind of laptop and what type of video card?
[18:02] <pehden> ctrl-F1 :Ctrl-C
[18:02] <michael__> I can get tickets fine with kinit but when I try to log in (locally) I get a ticket issued (i.e. I get the "your password will expire in X days" msg) but then authentication failed.
[18:02] <stefg> armada: what does lspci | grep VGA tell you about your video hardware?
[18:02] <Stupendoussteve> zortec: Offsite or same drive?
[18:02] <Stupendoussteve> zortec: For offsite, SpiderOak is reasonable and works on ubuntu
[18:02] <armada> its a compaq armada with a intel video card Halitech
[18:03] <armada> compaq armada 110
[18:03] <michael__> auth.log gives "Server not found in kerberos db"
[18:03] <studentz> Stupendoussteve Dell is not being nice with Ubuntu...
[18:03] <zortec> Stupendoussteve: I'm thinking offsite or maybe just copy the files over to a CD-RW
[18:03] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[18:03] <pehden> install ubuntu-desktop then remove gnome
[18:03] <armada> stefg,  didn't understand u :(
[18:04] <grawity> michael__: Does it have a host principal in the Kerberos server?
[18:04] <cdw32> halitech, i do not think it worked
[18:04] <Stupendoussteve> zortec: For the same drive, backintime is a nice gui, http://backintime.le-web.org/
[18:04] <Stupendoussteve> (or different drive same system)
[18:04] <stefg> armada: open a terminal and enter 'lspci | grep VGA' . That will tell you what graphic chip you have
[18:04] <Stupendoussteve> For CD/DVD the normal burning software can work
[18:04] <Halitech> armada, I hope you have more then the base amount of ram, 64meg won't cut it
[18:04] <michael__> grawity: it does not, I was assuming since I was getting tickets this wasn't the issue
[18:05] <Halitech> cdw32, what didn't work?
[18:05] <armada> Halitech,  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade i1 (rev 6a)
[18:05] <grawity> michael__: I'm not very experienced with Kerberos... so this is just a random suggestion.
[18:05] <grawity> michael__: Also, does the system have proper reverse DNS? (Random suggestion too.)
[18:06] <Halitech> armada, gonna need to really mess around with xorg.conf, let me see if I can find what you need
[18:06] <daishadar> how do i set unattended-upgrades to automatically upgrade *all* packages, not just those from the security or updates repos?
[18:06] <cdw32> halitech, the update manager, i am trying another approch tho
[18:06] <armada> ty Halitech
[18:06] <Halitech> cdw32, it should take a while to run
[18:07] <armada> i would really aprecciate it Halitech
[18:07] <armada> _o_
[18:07] <michael__> grawity: have not checked on reverse DNS, why would this be important?
[18:07] <Halitech> armada, not the thread I was thinking of but this should have it, look at post 2 ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1199881&highlight=cyberblade
[18:07] <stefg> armada: while you wait you could run 'free -m' and tell us how much RAM you have
[18:08] <unko> hey guys i accidentaly ran this command: gconftool-2 --type=list --list-type=string --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components_list '[windowmanager,filemanager]'  how do i reinstall the panel?
[18:08] <cdw32> halitech, i ran the update manager like the forum said, but not avail....nothing happened
[18:08] <grawity> michael__: Kerberos sometimes requires the reverse DNS.
[18:08] <Halitech> cdw32, did you do it as sudo?
[18:08] <armada>   total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[18:08] <armada> Mem:           363        340         22          0         10        157
[18:08] <armada> -/+ buffers/cache:        173        190
[18:08] <armada> Swap:          454          3        451
[18:08] <FloodBot2> armada: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:08] <cdw32> in terminal
[18:08] <armada> that Halitech
[18:08] <KingSteve032> mt screen keep giving me random colers
[18:09] <armada> sorry :$
[18:09] <Halitech> armada, looks like you only have 1meg going to the video card
[18:09] <Halitech> cdw32, in the terminal or alt F2
[18:10] <michael__> grawity: hmm, will look into it
[18:10] <armada> Halitech,  how do I change that?
[18:10] <cdw32> yeah, the update manager opened, ran, but nothing happened....how do i check my current version?
[18:10] <Halitech> armada, thats not the post I thought it was, give me a second
[18:10] <armada> oki Halitech
[18:10] <KingSteve032> can i disable my video card at the boot
[18:10] <KingSteve032> my video card is crap
[18:11] <KingSteve032> ans i think it is keeping ubuntu from ooting
[18:11] <KingSteve032> booting
[18:11] <cdw32> halitech, maybe i have it the updated verson, and i just do not know it...?
[18:12] <Halitech> cdw32, possible
[18:12] <armada> Halitech,  do u think that normal ubuntu fix the problem?
[18:12] <diddy>  Is there a way to keep the table headers when using a pager? For instance the output of lsof | less is so long that it scrolls off the screen and I forget which column means what.
[18:12] <oskar-> KingSteve032:  do you want to use it, once the system has booted? if not, i would suggest to remove it physically ;)
[18:12] <Halitech> armada, what do you mean by normal ubuntu?
[18:12] <armada> i'm running xubuntu
[18:12] <armada> the Ubuntu
[18:12] <KingSteve032> i cant remove it physically because it is intagrated
[18:13] <cdw32> halitech, is there a way to check what version i am currently running?
[18:13] <sagredo> hi
[18:13] <elad`> Flash performance and compatibility is quite abysmal for me, on a very strong computer, with the default 9.04 installation. Is there anything proprietary I might go for?
[18:13] <sagredo> is there a program in linux for chkdsk
[18:13] <Halitech> armada, with a P3 850 and 384meg of ram, I wouldn't go ubuntu ... look here for a copy of my xorg.conf file http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7091258&postcount=13
[18:13] <sagredo> I tried using ntfsfix in the ntfsprogs package but it told me to run chkdsk
[18:13] <stefg> armada: the base system is the same, so another desktop environment won't change anything
[18:13] <MrPiracy> i can't get back into ubuntu after i ran this command: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[18:14] <MrPiracy> would anyone help me please?
[18:14] <oskar-> KingSteve032:  then there probably is a bios setup option to disable it (?)
[18:14] <Halitech> cdw32, there is but I cant think of the top of my head ....  should be something under system ?? about this computer/ubuntu
[18:14] <gartral> !helpme | MrPiracy
[18:14] <richardcavell> how do I get a message to appear with little arrows like above #ubuntu:[freenode-info]?
[18:14] <cdw32> halitech: 8.04, i found it...
[18:15] <gartral> MrPiracy: flgrx seems rather broken in linux... all linux oses suffer from dismal problems
[18:15] <Halitech> cdw32, then you should be able to upgrade to 8.10 and then 9.04 if you want so not sure why its not working ... do you have an intel video card?
[18:15] <KingSteve032> i dont see a bios set up
[18:15] <cdw32> halitech, i am not sure...
[18:16] <Fougner> MrPiracy, ctrl+alt+F4
[18:16] <Fougner> and you'll see a shell, hopefully
[18:16] <MrPiracy> gartral, i was just thinking .... maybe i would just try to remove it from xorg.conf?
[18:16] <KingSteve032> fro disableing hardware
[18:16] <Halitech> cdw32, open a terminal and post the output of lspci | grep video
[18:16] <qwyeth> KingSteve032: Do you have an add-on video card, or do you want to run the system headless? On most systems with integrated video, the onboard will be automatically disabled if there is an addon card detected
[18:16] <Fougner> MrPiracy, look after a backup of xorg.conf in the /etc/X11 dir
[18:16] <KingSteve032> its a laptop
[18:16] <KingSteve032> ibm thinkpad r40
[18:16] <gartral> MrPiracy: that might work.. I rund nvidia... so theres a different set of issues, and i cant really feild your problems well
[18:17] <MrPiracy> Fougner, gartral, ok, gonna try that, brb
[18:17] <armada> how do I edit the file?
[18:17] <lwells> How do I install 32 bit software on Ubuntu 64?
[18:17] <armada> Halitech, how do I edit the file?
[18:17] <jrib> lwells: like?
[18:17] <Fougner> armada, use a texteditor? =)
[18:18] <qwyeth> KingSteve032: I don't understand exactly what you want to disable...  The LCD?  Or the vga-out?
[18:18] <KingSteve032> the actualy video card
[18:18] <lwells> I am trying to install the sdk for WebOS?
[18:18] <Halitech> armada, gksudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:18] <lwells> jrib: It is the sdk for the new palm os
[18:18] <michael__> grawity: I think I'm ok on the DNS front, have a fully qualified DNS name etc. I wonder if kinit doesn't bother with host principal checks whereas pam_krb5 does this by default and i need to tell it not to.
[18:19] <Halitech> armada, I almost told you gedit but you have Xubuntu and gedit doesn't get installed
[18:19] <qwyeth> KingSteve032: You mean the ATI Radeon Mobility 7500, right?
[18:19] <KingSteve032> pretty sure that is right
[18:19] <cdw321> Halitech: sorry about that...i am not sure what video card i have.
[18:20] <gartral> what is unattended-upgrade? theres no help file or man page
[18:20] <qwyeth> KingSteve032: If you disable that you will have no video at all.  Are you sure that's what you want?  I wouldn't be surprised if there is no option for that in the BIOS because that would make the system unusable for most common purposes
[18:20] <jrib> lwells: good luck.  Some libraries are in ia32-libs.  But I have no idea how the palm sdk works.  Worst case scenario, use chroot or virtualized system
[18:20] <KingSteve032> i dont care i have the video card disableed in windows
[18:20] <gartral> cdw321: lspci | grep VGA will tell you
[18:20] <KingSteve032> it works
[18:21] <qwyeth> KingSteve032: Then what you disabled is the video acceleration software in Windows, but you're still using the card with a generic VGA driver
[18:21] <cdw321> gartral: i have no clue ehat that is... total noob
[18:21] <lwells> jrib: Can you do --force architecture?
[18:21] <Halitech> cdw321, open a terminal and type in the command that gartral give you
[18:21] <jrib> lwells: sure, you can try.  I would ask for support from palm though
[18:21] <pehden> ping
[18:21] <Halitech> cdw321, then post the info back here
[18:21] <gartral> cdw321: its ok, we were all there once, open a terminal via Applications>accessories>Terminal and typ in lspci | grep VGA
[18:22] <belorix> !firefox
[18:22] <Fougner> pehden, anser from me with 8000ms delay
[18:22] <armada> Halitech, now I just have to put that file like yours?
[18:22] <Fougner> answer*
[18:22] <qwyeth> KingSteve032: So are you unable to boot linux because of a suspected video card problem?  Why do you think it's the video card?
[18:22] <lwells> ok
[18:22] <pehden> hmm
[18:22] <Halitech> armada, that should work, yes and reboot
[18:22] <armada> oki
[18:22] <pehden> that seems to high
[18:22] <cdw321> Gartral: Halitech: ok one second
[18:22] <Fougner> pehden, nope ;D
[18:22] <KingSteve032> well what happens is i can see the boot screen fine then when it getts to the log in screen i get random lines
[18:22] <gartral> KingSteve032: are you sure Ubuntu isn't just trying to use the onboard video card?
[18:23] <qwyeth> gartral:  It's a laptop.  The 'onboard' is all there is.
[18:23] <Stupendoussteve> PING reply from pehden: 0.749 seconds, that's quick
[18:23] <Halitech> KingSteve032, that sounds more like just a driver issue
[18:23] <gartral> KingSteve032: what kind of gfx card? i get that once in a blue moon from my NVidia XFX GeForce 6200
[18:23] <KingSteve032> the video card is crap i did some test on it and it failed 2 out of 3 test
[18:24] <armada> Halitech,  i copy pasted it... is that ok?
[18:24] <Halitech> armada, should be
[18:24] <pehden> i have n6200
[18:24] <gartral> qwyeth: ahh.. well. he *coud* be using one of this pcmcia cards, or a usb video card
[18:24] <armada> i'll reebot now, and then i'll tell u, many many thanks Halitech
[18:25] <cdw321> Gartral Halitech: it says command not found
[18:25] <Halitech> armada, good luck and hopefully it works
[18:25] <pehden> usb vidcard/Why would you want to use that?
[18:25] <gartral> cdw321: LSPCI in lower case :)
[18:25] <qwyeth> KingSteve032: Check out this page... you may want to try the xorg.conf settings about two-thirds down the page:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/ThinkpadR40-2681
[18:25] <gartral> pehden: they are useful if you *need* 3 or more monitors
[18:26] <og_> having some trouble, trying to mount a software raid array made in XP. got mdadm, please see the following output http://pastebin.com/d2c57c60c I dunno whats using these devices, their not mounted, how can i find out?
[18:26] <pehden> ok, yea i see that point
[18:26] <pehden> who makes usb type though, ive never seen any
[18:27] <og_> also im not sure on the chunk size....
[18:27] <gartral> pehden: hold on, ill find an example
[18:27] <pehden> sweet
[18:27] <Drakonich> hi - why return remove driver network wi-fi
[18:27] <GeorgeAScott1> i'm looking for a ubuntu networking configuring guru..
[18:27] <jrib> !ask | GeorgeAScott1
[18:27] <cdw321> Gartral Halitech: http://paste.ubuntu.com/220689/
[18:27] <skellington> hey guys. giving ubuntu another shot and i was wondering. where would my wireless driver be on my windows partition. im trying to configure ndis.
[18:28] <Fougner> skellington, what wifi card?
[18:28] <skellington> atheros 5700
[18:28] <jrib> !wifi | skellington
[18:28] <Fougner> ah
[18:28] <Fougner> well
[18:28] <Drakonich> with ndis driver trendnet no working
[18:28] <Fougner> skellington, you should use latest ath5k
[18:28] <jrib> skellington: check the wifi documentation first, it's unlikely you need ndiswrapper
[18:28] <gartral> pehden: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=USB+video+card&x=0&y=0 <- of course, im not sure if ANY work with ubuntu
[18:28] <examancer> there is a replacement menu available that gets rid of the sperate "Applications Places System" menus and puts them all under a single menu
[18:28] <GeorgeAScott1> fine... do i need rsync-hal to fix my broken tethering setup?  i saw in the network tool a place for mobile broadband, but cant get it to work
[18:28] <examancer> I've installed it before but forgot what it was called
[18:29] <examancer> anyone know?
[18:29] <Fougner> skellington, I've got atheros myself, pain in the ...
[18:29] <og_> how can i find out what is using a block device, the device is not mounted but mdadm is refusing to use the devices on the basis that they're 'busy'
[18:29] <Fougner> examancer, gnomenu?
[18:29] <Halitech> cdw321, lovely intel card
[18:29] <Drakonich> ku ku
[18:29] <Drakonich> help plz
[18:29] <cdw321> halitech, that means what?
[18:30] <revygttam> I cant ping my server by hostname but can by IP.  How can i fix this?
[18:30] <Halitech> cdw321, seeing alot of issues with 9.04 and intel cards on the forum
[18:30] <skellington> fougner: agreed.
[18:30] <Fougner> skellington, look here
[18:30] <cdw321> halitech: i see. so i should just wait for another LTS version to be released
[18:31] <Fougner> skellington, http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
[18:31] <MrPiracy> gartral, it didn't work
[18:31] <MrPiracy> gartral xorg.conf wasn't even touched
[18:31] <Fougner> if you got kernel >= 2.6.27  download the stable package there
[18:31] <Fougner> then unpack, make, make install
[18:31] <Drakonich> why return, remove driver wi-fi rtl8180.ko
[18:31] <gartral> cdw321: i see alot of issues with that particular card cdw321 Halitech
[18:31] <Fougner> you know what I mean?
[18:32] <cdw321> gartral: what kind of issues. bad ?
[18:32] <gartral> MrPiracy: looks like you ned too back up your ./home and reinstall
[18:32] <joannethrax> Hey again.  I'm still not able to get sound to work on my new laptop.  Could someone please assist?
[18:32] <skellington> thanks fougner
[18:32] <Fougner> tell me if it works or not
[18:32] <gartral> cdw321: yea, but dont give up, ill keep looking
[18:32] <KingSteve032> i cant even look at the screen all it is is black with some random lines going through it
[18:32] <MrPiracy> gartral, damn ... 4th time in one week :(
[18:32] <Fougner> MrPiracy, what are you doin with that computer anyway? ;)
[18:32] <Halitech> cdw321, I would wait and stay with whats working
[18:32] <MrPiracy> gartral, i'll just try to remove that package from the command prompt
[18:33] <Fougner> MrPiracy, you have a ATI card?
[18:33] <gartral> MrPiracy: when i installed 8.10 on my desktop, i had to reinstall 8 times in a day!
[18:33] <cdw321> gartral: with my particular card, or the model in general
[18:33] <pehden> test
[18:33] <pehden> pehden: test
[18:33] <Halitech> cdw321, intels in general right now
[18:33] <MrPiracy> Fougner, i was trying to get secondlife running
[18:33] <pehden> hmm
[18:33] <gartral> cdw321: your card's model in general is just poorly supported
[18:33] <Fougner> oh
[18:33] <cdw321> Hlitech:: i think that is what i am going to do. i already had to send the computer back for repairs once...
[18:33] <Fougner> MrPiracy, do you know about envy?
[18:34] <cdw321> gartral: i see thanks
[18:34] <Halitech> !envy | Fougner
[18:34] <MrPiracy> Fougner nope
[18:34] <Fougner> MrPiracy, Halitech just helped you then =)
[18:34] <Fougner> you can run it from the shell
[18:34] <hs1> Hi, are there any repository with mono-2.4 for Jaunty?
[18:34] <Fougner> and reinstall drivers and then run aticonfig
[18:34] <examancer> Fougner: turns out its already installed. its called "Main Menu" and can be added to the panel, then you simply remove the "Menu Bar" which takes up more space
[18:35] <examancer> thanks anyways
[18:35] <MrPiracy> Fougner, neat ... but i got to get into ubuntu first
[18:35] <Fougner> examancer, ok
[18:35] <cdw321> halitech: one more question. sometimes when i see the code, what is the line
[18:35] <pehden> i got ubunutu runing icewm
[18:35] <KingSteve032> qwyeth i just need to disable the video card
[18:35] <Fougner> well, how long into boot do you go?
[18:35] <pehden> *ubuntu
[18:35] <Halitech> cdw321, what code and what line?
[18:35] <thomc> I've put an rsync backup script in /etc/cron.daily; the script runs and new files are copied across, but for some reason the --delete option doesn't appear to work and deleted files are not removed from the backup. Any ideas?
[18:35] <Fougner> MrPiracy, is it a black screen where the login normally is?
[18:35] <pehden> no got to figureout how to customize ice
[18:35] <MrPiracy> Fougner, exactly
[18:36] <MrPiracy> Fougner, and it's NVIDIA 8600gt, no ATI
[18:36] <skellington> how do i get completely rid of an app without breaking gnome. im talking about evolution here.
[18:36] <Fougner> MrPiracy, aha
[18:36] <cdw321> halitech: like this: lspci | grep VGA  what is the line between ispci and grep
[18:37] <Halitech> cdw321, its called a "pipe" and should be just over your enter key
[18:37] <Fougner> MrPiracy, anyway, able to ctrl+alt+F4 when the black screen appears?
[18:37] <qwyeth> KingSteve032: I'm not trying to be a dick, but you're wrong.  You probably can't disable the video card hardware, and if you could it wouldn't accomplish what you want.  When you "disable" it in Windows what you're actually doing is using a different driver, and that is probably the same thing you want to do in Linux.
[18:37] <pehden> you cant at least i couldnt get rid of evo
[18:37] <resno> What is the best way to use webalizer to extract stats?
[18:37] <KingSteve032> thats what i want to do then
[18:37] <gartral> skellington: you cant, evolution is the main program your calender and mail core runs out of, you remove that, and you remove gnome, calender, mail, and todo listing capabilities
[18:37] <azlon> asdf
[18:37] <cdw321> halitech: io feel like an idiot....
[18:37] <pehden> how do i install a deb with out adding gnome stuff
[18:37] <azlon> is there any way to adjust the power of my wireless card?
[18:37] <Halitech> cdw321, don't, I had no idea what it was before I started using linux
[18:38] <MrPiracy> Fougner, i tried to ctrl+alt+f4 from the command prompt i was at ... everything went black for a couple of minutes, so i rebooted and came back into XP
[18:38] <qwyeth> KingSteve032: Are you working from a Live CD or an installed system?
[18:38] <KingSteve032> its on a usb
[18:38] <cdw321> halitech: does it have a funtion
[18:38] <qwyeth> KingSteve032: Did you try the "Safe Graphics Mode" option on the boot menu?
[18:38] <KingSteve032> i used unetbootin
[18:38] <Halitech> cdw321, it tells the first command to do the second before giving you the output
[18:38] <Fougner> MrPiracy, you where at a command prompt?
[18:38] <skellington> gartral: what a drag
[18:38] <stefg> azlon: man iwconfig
[18:38] <Fougner> were*
[18:38] <gartral> cdw321: yes, your pipe key is useful in many ways, just not in windows
[18:39] <pup> i happened to enter tty once, how do i get out of it back to the gnome gui? tried startx, din't work.
[18:39] <MrPiracy> Fougner, yes, the recovery console
[18:39] <Fougner> ah
[18:39] <gartral> skellington: why does it matter, its only 30 some megs
[18:39] <KingSteve032> to install it
[18:39] <Fougner> well, did you try to install envy and run it?
[18:40] <cdw321> gartral; thanks, i will get the hang of this eventually!
[18:40] <pehden> whats a proccess manager the isnt gnome or kde or xfce
[18:40] <qwyeth> KingSteve032: You should have a "Failsafe" mode on the GRUB boot menu.  Have you tried that?
[18:40] <skellington> gartral: im a software snob. i only want what i explicitly installed to be on my computer
[18:40] <KingSteve032> how do i get to the grub menu
[18:40] <DeannaT2> pheden you can take xubuntu, its without gnome *think*
[18:40] <pup> i think i had pressed alt-ctrl-f4
[18:40] <stefg> !info htop | pehden
[18:40] <roffe> how do I edit xorg without doing it manually?
[18:41] <MrPiracy> Fougner, can i install it from the console?
[18:41] <qwyeth> KingSteve032: It's the menu where you pick whether you're booting to Ubuntu or Windows
[18:41] <gartral> skellington: and why dont you like evolution (other than its poor implimentation of GTK+)?
[18:41] <qwyeth> KingSteve032: You may need to press Esc to access it
[18:41] <MrPiracy> Fougner, i was thinking of deinstalling fglrx drivers
[18:41] <pehden> htop... is that in synaptic
[18:41] <Fougner> MrPiracy, yep, apt-get install envyng-core
[18:41] <pehden> yep it is
[18:41] <roffe> I read xorg was possible to edit without opening xorg.conf in jaunty
[18:42] <cdw321> halitech and Gartral: Thanks for your time!!
[18:42] <stefg> pehden: yes, but it's a console app... similar to mc, but for processes
[18:42] <gartral> pehden: yes, alternativly, you can install it with sudo apt-get install htop for a terminal
[18:42] <Fougner> MrPiracy, okay, you could try, but it probably won't work
[18:42] <pehden> awsome
[18:42] <MrPiracy> Fougner, so i'll be able to get back in business at least
[18:42] <gartral> cdw321: n problem, im sorry we couldnt resolve your issues
[18:42] <MrPiracy> Fougner, why not? the xorg.conf file wasn't touched
[18:42] <Fougner> MrPiracy, hopefully. try install envyng and run it from the console.. isntall your prop drivers for nVidia graphics
[18:42] <skellington> gartral: i dont dislike it. i just have no need for it.
[18:43] <MrPiracy> Fougner, ok gonna try that, brb
[18:43] <gorgut> any ideas as to what might cause video card memory corruption and freezing?
[18:43] <skellington> also, movie player. can i get rid of that?
[18:43] <gartral> skellington: ah well, I dont like apt- but i cant remove it
[18:43] <roffe> is it possible to edit xorg without opening up xorg.conf in gedit?
[18:43] <majikman> why in the world do the people that packaged apache httpd deviate so far from apache's standard?!?!
[18:43] <Flannel> majikman: What do you mean?
[18:43] <skellington> gartral: lol but its useful.
[18:44] <Halitech> pehden, here's a good howto on configging icewm on the debian forum ... http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=5450&hilit=icewm
[18:44] <majikman> Flannel, for instance, using this as the user... User ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[18:44] <gartral> skellington: aptitude is more-so
[18:44] <majikman> i can't run a syntax check on my conf files anymore because that isn't valid
[18:44] <Halitech> roffe, yes
[18:45] <majikman> and then naming httpd apache2.... do they not realize that the project is named httpd? NOT apache? the foundation sponsoring httpd is called apache
[18:45] <skellington> gartral: to each his own
[18:45] <majikman> ugh... so many things.
[18:45] <oskar-> majikman:  perhaps you can syntax-check the output of the preprocessor used for the file, if there is one?
[18:45] <roffe> Halitech: how ?
[18:45] <pehden> whats funny is im running ubuntu with icewm and it says its debian
[18:45] <gartral> what is unattended-upgrade?!? theres no help documentation what-so-ever on it
[18:45] <Halitech> roffe, nano, vi, vim, mousepad, leafpad
[18:45] <rmorales> does eanyone can help a newby with ubuntu studio qsynth  raw midi failure
[18:45] <Fougner> pehden, well ubuntu is debian actually ;D
[18:45] <majikman> oskar-, i might be able to... but why should i have to? why not just stick to the standard that the apache foundation releases?
[18:45] <pehden> yea i know
[18:46] <majikman> this seriously makes sys administration an uber pain in the ass
[18:46] <roffe> Halitech: but i read it was a new feature in jaunty
[18:46] <majikman> i have to relearn all this stuff
[18:46] <pehden> but its funny that i stripped it down
[18:46] <Halitech> roffe, maybe, I'm not using jaunty so not sure
[18:46] <majikman> oh... and server-info is serving the contents of my fiels. this is awesome
[18:46] <Fougner> roffe, swedish?
[18:47] <roffe> Fougner: Ja
[18:47] <pehden> im on jaunty with icewm lamp barebones
[18:47] <gartral> Fougner pehden i want to point out that Ubuntu is only VERY distantly related too debian, debian code is NOT binary compatible with Ubuntu kernals, and if you try too install a non-Ubuntu .deb into Ubuntu, you WILL break something with drastic consiquences
[18:47] <jrib> majikman: do you have a support question?
[18:47] <Fougner> roffe, kika under System->Inställningar->skärm... kan va den dem menar
[18:47] <majikman> jrib, my question was... why does ubuntu deviate so much from the standard
[18:47] <pehden> i know
[18:47] <Pici> !sv | Fougner roffe
[18:47] <jrib> majikman: this isn't really the place to discuss debian/ubuntu packaging policy
[18:47] <pehden> i only get deb with ubunt
[18:48] <majikman> then where is the appropriate place?
[18:48] <roffe> Fougner: Ok, tack :)
[18:48] <Fougner> Pici, sorry, just one sentence in swedish
[18:48] <Halitech> roffe, #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:48] <pehden> damn i using 4% cpu and 89mb ram on jaunty
[18:48] <majikman> ok... here's a support question. why is my /server-info serving the contents of my scripts? major security issue here...
[18:49] <x_> Hello
[18:49] <pehden> are you runing php5
[18:49] <Pici> !who
[18:49] <KingSteve032> it does nothing when i push esc
[18:49] <x_> I tried to install my tablet with wizardpen, and not only it doesn't work but it also forces my screen to go into safe mode
[18:49] <pehden> i couldnt figure out to do that
[18:49] <x_> can anyone please help me?
[18:49] <Halitech> !ask | x_
[18:50] <Halitech> armada, how did you make out?
[18:50] <majikman> i edited my status.conf file in the apache modules and i want it to display server-info bu ti can't seem to... here's what i have for server-info http://pastebin.com/m57df66e9
[18:50] <armada> Halitech,  \o/ you did it :D
[18:50] <armada> Thanks thanks thanks
[18:50] <thiebaude> sebsebseb: hi
[18:50] <Halitech> armada, glad to hear it worked for you :)
[18:51] <pehden> if its showing the script you may need to reinstall the php5 or asp
[18:51] <Megabyte> hello everyone
[18:51] <armada> Halitech,  new question? how do I cnnect to windows networks? In Ubuntu is so easy but in xubuntu i can't seem to make it :(
[18:51] <majikman> reinstall php5? why? it displays my php files correctly
[18:51] <gartral> !samba | armada
[18:51] <Megabyte> I tried to install by tablet with wizardpen drivers and not only the driver does not load at all, but now my screen is going into safe mode
[18:51] <skellington> general question to any that will answer: whats the point of a /boot partition?
[18:51] <Megabyte> Can anyone please help me?
[18:52] <Halitech> armada, that is the bain of my existance, thunar sucks when it comes to network support but there was a thread I found somewhere that works for Xubuntu, give me a second
[18:52] <Fougner> skellington, google? =)
[18:52] <betterhalfone> Anyone know how to install synergy in 8.04 x64
[18:52] <jrib> skellington: well you could have several distros share it
[18:52] <antrago> ola
[18:52] <examancer> any ideas why UbuntuRestrictdExtras is showing as unpopular in the add/remove programs app. Is that just inaccurate? That is still the package to install things like MP3 and Divx support, right?
[18:52] <Fougner> jrib, touché
[18:52] <majikman> also, i can't get the ?auto thing to work with /server-status if anyone can help with that
[18:52] <Megabyte> http://www.nopaste.com/p/aEkBvl9uQ
[18:52] <Megabyte> here is my config file
[18:52] <skellington> jrib: but if im only using one distro then theres no point. right?
[18:53] <x_> what?...
[18:53] <Fougner> skellington, linux isn't built for one type of person
[18:53] <jrib> majikman: you should try #apache for help with apache configuration
[18:53] <Halitech> armada, check here ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131&highlight=xubuntu
[18:53] <x_> so "ubuntu servers is an alias to freenode...
[18:53] <jrib> skellington: I don't see one
[18:53] <Fougner> it's built for flexibility, servers and all kinds of systems
[18:53] <skellington> thanks jrib.
[18:53] <MrPiracy> Fougner: nice, it worked, but now i lost compiz
[18:53] <Megabyte> I didn't notice that
[18:53] <Fougner> omg
[18:53] <Halitech> skellington, I had to use a /boot partition on my old system (P4 1.8) with a 160gig hard drive or it wouldn't boot, gave me grub errors
[18:54] <skellington> fougner: i know linux isnt built for one type of person. but im the type of person that likes to ask questions.
[18:54] <Megabyte> Fougner, Hello... this channel is quite big and I am lost here.
[18:54] <pehden> majikman : reinstall php5 or asp you must have a bad conf
[18:54] <Fougner> skellington, good, but don't bother if you already know the answer? =)
[18:54] <Fougner> Megabyte, just ask, and hold you breath ;)
[18:54] <majikman> pehden, reinstalling php5 won't fix my conf file
[18:54] <Fougner> MrPiracy, what happens when you try to activate compiz then?
[18:55] <tma> Fougner: hehehe, and i just lost my previous xchat window too .... it minimized to nowhere
[18:55] <skellington> fougner: but i didnt know the answer. thats why i asked.
[18:55] <pehden> then reinstall apache2
[18:55] <Megabyte> Fougner, I'm sorry. I'm desperate to get my tablet working...
[18:55] <majikman> lol
[18:55] <majikman> wtf? reinstalling is the solution? am i in #windows?!
[18:55] <tma> Fougner: i am MrPiracy ;)
[18:55] <Pici> !who | pehden
[18:55] <Fougner> skellington, ah, okay.
[18:55] <majikman> maybe i should reinstall ubuntu
[18:55] <tma> Fougner: ok, activate compiz, let me try
[18:56] <pehden> apache doesnt take long to remove and install
[18:56] <tma> Fougner: says xgl not present
[18:56] <pehden> maji
[18:56] <Fougner> tma, weird things happens sometimes, when you (de)activate compiz when running apps
[18:56] <Fougner> hmm
[18:56] <Halitech> majikman, pehden reinstalling won't work unless you purge as it doesn't delete config files
[18:56] <jrib> pehden: reinstalling will rarely accomplish anything.  And in this case I believe majikman is trying to configure a feature that isn't available by default so reinstalling is unlikely to help
[18:56] <Fougner> I've got no experience when it comes to nVidia graphics
[18:57] <tma> Fougner:  alt+tab ain't working
[18:57] <Fougner> ctrl+alt+left/right button then? =)
[18:57] <pehden> jrib i read that there script was sowing source
[18:57] <Fougner> anyway
[18:57] <pehden> *showing
[18:57] <Fougner> compiz is deactivated
[18:58] <jrib> pehden: ok, but he said his php scripts were working
[18:58] <Pici> pehden: And that doesn't require a reinstall either.
[18:58] <tma> Fougner: it will just let me swap the desktop
[18:58] <Fougner> ah, yeah
[18:58] <Fougner> you have to get xgl drivers then.. envy did work.. but now the prop drivers aren't installed..
[18:58] <Fougner> *mumbling*
[18:58] <tma> Fougner: ook i got this extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[18:59] <tma> Fougner: on glxinfo | grep direct
[18:59] <thiebaude> !glx
[18:59] <zortec> How do you burn a CD with Brasero? I don't think my cdrom is working in ubuntu
[18:59] <pehden> !who | pehden
[19:00] <Fougner> tma, try nvidia's homepage, and download their drivers?
[19:00] <tma> hmmm, i can reinstall nvidia drivers
[19:01] <tma> Fougner:  u think that will do it? will i go back to "normal"?
[19:01] <Fougner> tma, I'm just guessing here
[19:01] <pehden> !tab pehden
[19:01] <Fougner> for me, with ATI, most things will work out just fine after a reinstall with the prop drivers
[19:01] <pehden> !pehdne
[19:01] <tma> Fougner: what's so good about envy anyway? does it install unofficial improved drivers?
[19:01] <Pici> !msgthebot | pehden
[19:02] <tma> Fougner: when i installed it, it offered me a bunch of options, should i try again with another driver version?
[19:02] <Halitech> !envy | tma
[19:02] <pehden> pici : how do i get ti to remeber the person i was t6alken to
[19:02] <CrocoJet> Ext4 made one big mess in my harddisk .. hell
[19:03] <Sh3r1ff> pehden: tab completion?
[19:03] <tma> Halitech, Fougner: ok, just installed the front end
[19:03] <pehden> sh3r1ff it shows you typed to me and its red and my system beeped
[19:03] <porter1> Can anyone else join any rooms on irc.mozilla.org? The darn server only will connect once and then acts up...
[19:04] <Fougner> tma, you can always play around and watch what happens.. if anything goes wrong, you should be able to run "safe mode" and install from shell again
[19:04] <zortec> Anyone done CD burning in Brasero for Gnome before?
[19:04] <Sh3r1ff> pehden: that's the idea ;)
[19:04] <CrocoJet> zortec, I did, why ?
[19:04] <Fougner> zortec, some yeah
[19:04] <tma> Fougner: ok, doing that now
[19:04] <pehden> sh3r1ff how did you do that
[19:04] <Halitech> zortec, I prefer k3b myself
[19:04] <zortec> CrocoJet: I get an error when trying to burn, it doesn't seem to detect my cdrom burner
[19:05] <Sh3r1ff> pehden: i typed your name ;) when you type my name it beeps here too ;) welcome to the world of irc :p
[19:05] <CrocoJet> zortec, is dvd-rw ?
[19:05] <pehden> sh3r1ff : then in that case
[19:05] <zortec> CrocoJet: yeah, this is the error: Session error : unknown (brasero_burn_record burn.c:2602)
[19:05] <pup> how do i exit a tty session? to come back to the gnome gui?
[19:05] <Fougner> zortec, more important, what are you trying to burn?
[19:05] <zortec> pup: type "exit"
[19:05] <pehden> sh3r1ff : i have to type there name at lweast once dont i
[19:06] <Sh3r1ff> pup: ctrl + alt + f7
[19:06] <Leoneof> hi
[19:06] <syracus> hi...is there a chance to test an early beta of gnome 3 with ubuntu 9,04 ?
[19:06] <CrocoJet> zortec, try blank before burn
[19:06] <zortec> Fougner: I want to burn a data disc
[19:06] <pup> zortec: exit wasn't working, startx was also not working.
[19:06] <pehden> whats the apt-get for virtualbox
[19:06] <zortec> Do I need to mount the cdrom burner or something? This is the first time doing any burning in ubuntu
[19:06] <Sh3r1ff> pehden: yup, and you best do it at the beginning of the line, to show you are adressign your text to them
[19:06] <Fougner> zortec, I like terminal more.. GUi's are evil =)
[19:06] <zortec> pup: Try like CTRL+7 I can't remember the shortcut
[19:06] <Sh3r1ff> pehden: apt-get virtualbox ;)
[19:06] <zortec> pup: F7
[19:06] <Leoneof> i use ubuntu under Vista by using VMware, however, i downloaded nVidia driver, how to install it?
[19:07] <CrocoJet> zortec, TOOL/ERASE
[19:07] <Pici> pehden: virtualbox-ose
[19:07] <Sh3r1ff> pehden: with an install between apt-get and virtualbox ;)
[19:07] <Halitech> Sh3r1ff, pehden sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[19:07] <CrocoJet> zorrolero, fast blanking
[19:07] <pup> alright. thanks zortec, Sh2r1ff
[19:07] <armada> Halitech,  i cant find fusesmb on synaptics... can u help?
[19:07] <pehden> sh3r1ff : i think i tried that and it said notfound
[19:07] <zortec> CrocoJet: Is there a way to check that it recognizes the cdrom burner?
[19:07] <pup> alright. thanks zortec, Sh3r1ff
[19:07] <Halitech> armada, try a search for just fuse
[19:07] <zortec> CrocoJet: I know you typically have to mount devices...
[19:07] <Sh3r1ff> pehden: do what Pici said, it is the open source edition that is in the repo's
[19:07] <CrocoJet> zortec, here always works when these buggys happen
[19:08] <pehden> ok
[19:08] <pehden> sh3r1ff : ok
[19:08] <richardcavell> they've done a really good job of maintaining VBox
[19:08] <porter1> b@ckpack
[19:08] <richardcavell> rapidly fixing bugs etc
[19:08] <zortec> CrocoJet: TOOL/ERASE?
[19:08] <Leoneof> i downloaded nVidia driver, how to install it?
[19:08] <CrocoJet> zortec, menu pulldown
[19:08] <zortec> It's not showing an available disc.
[19:08] <zortec> I have one in the drive though...
[19:08] <pehden> pici is that one version 3
[19:08] <Halitech> pehden, if you want/need usb support, follow the instructions here http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[19:09] <CrocoJet> do you have cd-r recorder desktop ?
[19:09] <Pici> pehden: No.
[19:09] <CrocoJet> try to erase dvd-rw
[19:09] <CrocoJet> I think dvd-rw .. are problems
[19:09] <pehden> pici: i have the deb package for ersion 3 and i cant seem to install it
[19:10] <Pici> pehden: Ask in #vbox then
[19:10] <Halitech> pehden, if you have gdebi installed you can double click it
[19:10] <Leoneof> HELLOOO?
[19:10] <Halitech> pehden, if not, follow the info on the link I sent you earlier
[19:10] <Sh3r1ff> pehden: in terminal do gksudo nautilus and then double click the deb
[19:10] <zortec> How do I find my cdrom drive?
[19:10] <majikman> anyone here running ubuntu 9.04/apache that can get this to work? http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_status.html#machinereadable
[19:10] <armada> Halitech, nothing... should I add some repositories?
[19:10] <pehden> is there one other then gnome
[19:10] <Halitech> !patience | Leoneof
[19:11] <evon> hello does anyone know how to convert a swf file to mp3 linux?
[19:11] <Halitech> armada, yes,  you need the multiverse repo enabled
[19:11] <Leoneof> thanks!!!
[19:12] <deany> evon, ffmpeg -i file.swf -ab 128k file.mp3
[19:12] <CrocoJet> zortec,  try in terminal
[19:12] <Halitech> Leoneof, check post 2 here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1215631
[19:12] <CrocoJet> zortec, cd /media/cdrom
[19:12] <Fougner> zortec, wodim --devices
[19:12] <evon> deany: thanks i will try it now
[19:13] <Halitech> armada, sorry, the universe repo
[19:13] <zortec> Fougner: Cannot open SCSI driver
[19:13] <veck> I have to blacklist the intel_agp and agp gart to boot into ubuntu with my graphics card installed is this normal?
[19:14] <Halitech> veck, 9.04 with an intel card?
[19:14] <zortec> CrocoJet: It's not showing up in Computer either
[19:14] <deany> evon, not setting a bitrate ( - ab ) defaults to 64kbit thats why I set one.
[19:14] <Fougner> zortec, that's weird
[19:14] <deany> evon, depends what the source is really as to what you set
[19:14] <CrocoJet> zortec, is your cdrom working (hardware) ?
[19:14] <zortec> CrocoJet: Yeah, it's working fine
[19:14] <zortec> Ubuntu is just not picking it up
[19:14] <Fougner> zortec, what computer/cd-rom are you using?
[19:14] <evon> deany: it says that it cannot find the codec parameters
[19:14] <veck> Halitech: no my grfx card is nvidea
[19:15] <Halitech> veck, not sure unless you have an onboard intel card that its seeing for some reason
[19:15] <deany> evon,  what version of ubuntu
[19:15] <armada> Halitech,  do I have to add any url?
[19:15] <evon> jaunty
[19:15] <deany> try -ab 128000
[19:16] <evon> deany: jaunty
[19:16] <gartral> what is unattended-upgrade?!? theres no help documentation what-so-ever on it???
[19:16] <deany> evon, ffmpeg from repo or compiled.  mine is compiled new.
[19:16] <evon> deany: ok
[19:16] <evon> deany: repo
[19:16] <zortec> Fougner: It's a SATA cdrom drive
[19:16] <deany> evon, send me the file and i`ll check against my version.
[19:16] <Halitech> armada, yes but not sure, in synaptic you should have a tab for repos, just make sure universe is checked
[19:16] <evon> deany: i installed winff
[19:16] <CrocoJet> well mine is IDE here
[19:16] <evon> deany: how do i send you a file?
[19:16] <veck> Halitech: yeah spent 2 days trying to boot ubuntu and the only way is to edit blacklist weird! It wont hurt to blacklist my intel_agp will it?
[19:17] <deany> evon, send it to somewhere like megaupload
[19:17] <Halitech> veck, I can't see why
[19:17] <deany> and gimme the link
[19:17] <CrocoJet> zortec, but I have other computer cd-rom sata and works pretty well
[19:17] <evon> deany: what file do you want? i installed ffmpeg through apt
[19:17] <deany> the swf
[19:17] <zortec> CrocoJet: It worked fine in Windows, not sure why Ubuntu is not detecting the drive... I'm stumped
[19:18] <CrocoJet> zortec, did you make install ubuntu via cd-rom ?
[19:18] <majikman> any anyone that has apache running on their box try running this command and tell me if they get HTML output or not? curl "http://localhost/server-status?auto"
[19:18] <veck> Halitech: Its my sons computer and took me forever to figure out the problem just wasnt sure if this remedy was ok?
[19:19] <deany> evon, either a parameter is wrong (winff sometimes has different parameters)
[19:19] <veck> Halitech: boots up fine now though
[19:19] <Halitech> veck, if everything else is working then I would say yes
[19:19] <zortec> 2.292025] ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
[19:19] <zortec> [    2.612024] ata3: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 30    2.932024] ata4: SATA link down (SStatus 0 SControl 3
[19:19] <zortec> CrocoJet: I found that in dmesg
[19:19] <unitxt> I am on 9.04. I need to know of the program that allowed me to right click within a folder and select "open terminal here" from the menu. It's on a lot of distros, maybe even on earlier Ubuntu. Anyone know of it's name?
[19:20] <evon> deany: ok i'm signing up to mega upload now
[19:20] <CosmicChaos> howto make "echo 1 | sudo tee ..." as a starter in the panel?
[19:20] <bashca> Error connecting to IMAP server: localhost 111 : Connection refused
[19:20] <CrocoJet> zortec, paste in private
[19:20] <bashca> can u help me  fix  this ???
[19:20] <Sh3r1ff> CosmicChaos: add a new starter and put that as a command? ;)
[19:20] <deany> evon, dont need to sign up.. just send
[19:20] <Halitech> majikman, http://paste.ubuntu.com/220725/
[19:21] <majikman> thanks Halitech. what version of ubuntu are you running?
[19:21] <CosmicChaos> Sh3r1ff: doesnt work requires password on shell, but no terminal opened, i tried gksudo doesnt work, thats my problem, pleas hhelp
[19:21] <CosmicChaos> howto make "echo 1 | sudo tee ..." as a starter in the panel?
[19:21] <Halitech> majikman, Debian Lenny :)
[19:21] <okc> is it possible to modify the GRUB boot screen?
[19:21] <evon> deany:  i don't know how to
[19:21] <majikman> oh dang. i should probably mention ubuntu 9.04
[19:22] <Halitech> majikman, gives you a baseline on what debian does though
[19:22] <q0_0p> i installed yakuake and it installed a bunch of kde .  114mg; after apt-get autoremove yakuake it only take out 6 mgs?
[19:22] <evon> deany: ok there I think i did it
[19:22] <majikman> Halitech, other versions of ubnutu seem to work but i have two 9.04 boxes that both don't work so i don't know if its just me or something else
[19:22] <armada> Halitech, how do i do this step?
[19:22] <armada> 3) Edit /etc/modules and add the word 'fuse' to the modules list to be loaded (without quotes), and save the file.
[19:22] <markw_> ok, why would my network connection slow to a crawl, I restart networking, and it works for a few minutes and then slows to a crawl again.  This is all on the local network.
[19:23] <Halitech> q0_0p, add --purge and that should get rid of the rest *I think*
[19:23] <q0_0p> sweet
[19:23] <q0_0p> thx
[19:23] <Halitech> armada, open synaptic and go to Settings - Repositories
[19:24] <picca> anyone here remember WindowMaker
[19:24] <armada> Halitech,  i already installed fusesmb
[19:24] <jully> picca: yup
[19:24] <armada> just don't know how to open the file to edit
[19:24] <armada> :$
[19:24] <Halitech> armada, ok, where are you at in the steps then?
[19:24] <jully> not in any great detail, was pretty new to linux [debian] at the time
[19:24] <CosmicChaos> Sh3r1ff: any idea?
[19:24] <picca> i have not used it in ages jully, sorted of tempted to give it a try - really loved that window manager
[19:24] <pehden> anyone: i am trying to make my sytem after i login load virtualbox as soon as the desktop would appear
[19:24] <armada> 3 one rigth after install
[19:25] <jully> picca: it was efficient
[19:25] <Sh3r1ff> CosmicChaos: try selectin application in terminal as type and set the terminal to remain open after command finished?
[19:25] <Halitech> armada, gksudo mousepad /etc/modules
[19:25] <picca> jully: it is a shame development slowed down on it .. had a really clean interface and very efficient as you say
[19:26] <theTroy> how to block a certain user from full internet access? os that you cant even ping?
[19:27] <jully> theTroy: it sounds so simple, but now that i think about it....
[19:27] <jully> not so simple
[19:27] <zortec> Is it not possible to install cd rom driver packages in ubuntu? I don't want to reinstall ubuntu for the 4th time... *sigh*
[19:27] <Sh3r1ff> theTroy: you deny him access to the programs that could access the internet
[19:27] <zortec> I used a minimal install cd and now have no cdrom
[19:27] <Anish123> Heya guys!
[19:27] <theTroy> I need user to be able to normally work on the computer
[19:28] <theTroy> but not able to access internet
[19:28] <jully> picca: it's true, but in the end we all demand a bit more than that these days
[19:28] <pehden> ****: i am trying to make my sytem after i login load virtualbox as soon as the desktop would appear
[19:28] <Sh3r1ff> theTroy: you'll have to set up a domain controller and add the pc to that domain
[19:28] <picca> jully: you are right ... just feeling a bit nostalgic
[19:29] <Pici> !session | pehden
[19:29] <jully> picca: kinda like swings and training wheels? :)
[19:29] <theTroy> Sh4r1ff I would rather hear about iptables solution
[19:29] <veck> Halitech: how can I figure out which gpg key this is? http://pastebin.com/m37f0b78d
[19:29] <pehden> pici thanks
[19:29] <theTroy> Sh3r1ff *
[19:30] <Halitech> veck, its for launchpad
[19:30] <Sh3r1ff> theTroy: ?
[19:30] <theTroy> iptables
[19:31] <Sh3r1ff> theTroy: iptables doesn't work on a high enough level to control user management
[19:31] <divkladek> exit
[19:31] <theTroy> hmm
[19:31] <theTroy> well, I managed to do it this way iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --gid-owner no-internet -j DROP
[19:31] <theTroy> but I still can ping
[19:31] <Sh3r1ff> theTroy: with iptables it is everyone access or nobody at all
[19:31] <veck> Halitech: would you know were to get the key or how to fix the error?
[19:31] <theTroy> you are wrong Sh3r1ff
[19:31] <Pici> veck: and if you are running Karmic you should be asking questions in #ubuntu+1
[19:32] <Anish123> Im trying to get Ubuntu on USB... but USB creator tells me that it cannot find kernel
[19:32] <Halitech> veck, sorry, no I don't
[19:32] <Anish123> What is Karmic- Ubuntu next edition
[19:32] <Anish123> Oh yeah
[19:32] <jully> theTroy: if that works, you should be able to add protocol specific iptables rules that block ICMP
[19:32] <Pici> !karmic | Anish123
[19:32] <jully> user specific
[19:32] <Anish123> Oh, Im using Jaunty
[19:32] <theTroy> basically I just tought 2 users how to answer my question
[19:32] <theTroy> no thanks here
[19:32] <Anish123> Got that
[19:33] <Anish123> Im trying to get Ubuntu on USB... but USB creator tells me that it cannot find kernel
[19:35] <Sinatra> is there anyway to use a webcam on aim/yahoo with ubuntu?
[19:35] <Xpistos|work> Hey can someone help me change the screen that loads after grub and before I sign in in gnome. The one that says ubuntu with the status bar filling up from left to right?
[19:35] <Xpistos|work> I am not sure how it is called
[19:35] <Halitech> Sinatra, yes, kopete
[19:36] <Pici> !usplash > Xpistos|work
[19:36] <Halitech> Xpistos|work, usplash, check gnome-look
[19:36] <Sinatra> is kopete glitchy at all?
[19:36] <porter1> Anyone know how to get on the mozilla irc server?
[19:36] <Halitech> Sinatra, no idea, don't use it
[19:37] <Xpistos|work> Pici & Halitech: Thanks for the help fellas. I was going a little crazy. The Ultimate edition screen is really hard to see its progress so again, Thanks!
[19:38] <skywalker> join #amnesya
[19:38] <zortec> If I want to remove all the files on a partition, do I just delete the partition in GParted and then format it again to the filesystem I want?
[19:38] <jack-desktop> can anyone walk me through how to enable bitmap fonts in 9.04?
[19:40] <|ntegra|> my mp3s are in the wrong order, how can I rearrange them?
[19:40] <Halitech> zortec, yes
[19:41] <Sh3r1ff> |ntegra|: put the track number before the track name? ;)
[19:42] <|ntegra|> ls shows them just fine, but ls -f shows the 'real' picture, and I'm cp'ing them onto my mp3player all jumbled up
[19:42] <Zabadda> i just installed crunchbang on a HDD via my new ESATA HDD dock and on the install it let me choose the ESATA to install to and it all went fine, then i rebooted and my main HDD had the error 21 grub error, why would it do that if i didnt install to my main HDD?
[19:43] <leaf-sheep> |ntegra|: the -f parameter stands for "do not sort, enable -aU, disable -ls --color"
[19:43] <|ntegra|> leaf-sheep: yupyup
[19:44] <zortec> Ok, someone help... I deleted the partition and now I want to create an 80GB partition and format it to ntfs using gparted
[19:45] <zortec> Can I set the exact size?
[19:45] <leaf-sheep> r
[19:46] <vigo> Hello.  If you ask a real question we may be able to help.
[19:49] <DasEi> Sinatra: nuked ?
[19:49] <TimbrWu|f> think he means someone is DOS attacking him
[19:49] <vigo> TimbrWu|f: What architecture is your box?
[19:49] <zortec> grawity: What is a good size for XP to get along with ubuntu or does it matter? I have it at 80GB right now
[19:50] <Jethro> can anyone help me out? im having problems getting my laptop to hibernate. does anyone know anything about uswsusp
[19:50] <Sh3r1ff> zortec: minimal sys req for xp is like 4 GB or something like that
[19:50] <zortec> I'm kind of going overboard... heh
[19:50] <TimbrWu|f> it's a Gateway M series laptop 3 gig ram, 220gig hd, ati radeon x1270, realtek wireless/network card
[19:51] <ubuntu> can any one help me restore my grub
[19:51] <grawity> zortec: How much unallocated space do you have?
[19:51] <zortec> 204GB
[19:51] <qwyeth> ubuntu: www.supergrubdisk.org
[19:51] <qwyeth> zortec:  What are you using the windows for?
[19:51] <ubuntu> i have tried that...
[19:52] <vigo> Timbru|f: sounds like a gamer box, is it 64 bit?
[19:52] <zortec> qwyeth: I keep the Windows around to play newer games like Aion and for a few Windows apps that are not available on Linux
[19:52] <markw_> ok, exactly 5 minutes after bringing the network up, it slows to a crawl.
[19:52] <Incarus> why got ubuntu (jaunty) old gnome and kde packages?
[19:52] <TimbrWu|f> Does the samething with the 32bit version ubuntu installed, it came with vista home premium 32bit pre-installed
[19:53] <MattPhilie> How do I open the terminal? Sorry.. I just got Ubuntu...
[19:53] <magnetron> Incarus: what do you mean by "old"?
[19:53] <TimbrWu|f> after a few hours it does that, I have to delete the partition, and reinstall ubuntu
[19:53] <Incarus> magnetron, latest gnome version is 2.26, latest in ubuntu is 2.22
[19:53] <qwyeth> zortec:  If you are planning on installing "newer games" on windows, you probably need lots of space.  I think 80gb is not unreasonable, and depending on how many games and which ones, it may not be enough
[19:53] <Sh3r1ff> MattPhilie: applications > accesoires > terminal
[19:53] <qwyeth> zortec:  Some windows games take over 20GB
[19:53] <Shawnc> Why can't I "make" stuff? no matter what program I dl and try to run, I get errors, and yes I have build essentials.
[19:53] <Shawnc> http://pastebin.ca/1498389
[19:53] <Jethro> i am having problems with the suspend and hibernate functions. can someone that will try to help me out send me a PM????
[19:53] <Shawnc> That's an example of an error I get.
[19:53] <MattPhilie> Thankyou Sh3r1ff
[19:54] <TimbrWu|f> the last time I even had ubuntu download the ati driver package and install it hoping that would stop it, as I ass/u/me it's a video problem, but that didn't stop it either
[19:54] <vigo> TimbrWu|f: Let me look at some some documents, I think it is a a 32bit machine, still looking...
[19:54] <zortec> qwyeth: I just want an optimal windows install and not slow down the system...
[19:54] <cs02rm0> has anyone seen an issue when ssh'd over a vpnc connection where commands don't seem to terminate? i.e. i run ls, which prints out everything but then there's no prompt to type in again.
[19:54] <Incarus> TimbrWu|f	, whats the problem?
[19:54] <TimbrWu|f> I'm running windows 7rc ultimate 64 bit on the same machine with np's
[19:55] <qwyeth> zortec:  Once upon a time, your partitioning scheme impacted your disk performance.  In these modern days of 7200+ RPM hard drives, not so much.  You will not notice a performance differenc.
[19:55] <TimbrWu|f> incarus: <TimbrWu|f> I'm having problems keeping ubuntu 9.04 running (tried both 64 & 32bit versions) it runs fine and works great for a few hours and ends up reduced to about a 1/4 of the screen at the top in a bunch of lines of garbage
[19:55] <Sh3r1ff> Shawnc: the no such file or directory should be a hint ;)
[19:55] <Shawnc> well
[19:55] <Shawnc> No matter when program I dl
[19:55] <Shawnc> It does that
[19:55] <Fougner> weird
[19:56] <zortec> qwyeth: I'm thinking it's a good idea to see how much the games take up in space
[19:56] <schiller83> 1;3C
[19:56] <Fougner> Shawnc, you do the ./configure too?
[19:56] <Sinatra> What is the best way to burn the Ubuntu 9.04 iso to a CD in Windows XP?
[19:56] <Shawnc> Yes Fougner .
[19:56] <Jethro> when i try to use the suspend function my system freezes and i have to do a hard reboot, does anyone know why this would happen???
[19:56] <Fougner> Sinatra, use a burning app? ;D
[19:56] <TimbrWu|f> Sinatra : use infraburner
[19:56] <Sinatra> is infraburner freewware?
[19:56] <Fougner> infrarecorder? :P
[19:56] <TimbrWu|f> yes it's open source
[19:57] <Incarus> isoburner
[19:57] <Fougner> http://infrarecorder.org/
[19:57] <Jethro> yes
[19:57] <TimbrWu|f> infra something :)
[19:57] <qwyeth> zortec:  It sounds very much like you don't really know what games you're going to install in total, so you may end up using more space than you thought.  Resizing partitions is sketchy.  Also, for optimal performance, you should NEVER EVER let your windows system fill up to less than 2GB free space
[19:57] <Sinatra> thank you for your help.
[19:57] <Incarus> http://www.freeisoburner.com/
[19:57] <bucky> Shawnc: did you run ./configure first ?
[19:57] <sid_> Can any one tell me how to move the stream from my Intel Snd card to Bluetooth headset... I have installed Blueman and Pulse audio 0.9.15 in jaunty and am able to pair the device using blueman... But cant see the sound stream in Pulse. any help appreciated guys
[19:58] <Jethro> when i try to return from suspend my system locks up and wont allow me to do anything and i have to reboot to return to ubuntu does anyone know why this might happen?
[19:58] <Shawnc> Yes bucky, I already answered that question.
[19:58] <Sinatra> i already downloaded infrarecorder
[19:58] <zortec> qwyeth: I set it for 80GB
[19:58] <Incarus> TimbrWu|f	, are you running latest driver?
[19:58] <qwyeth> zortec:  That's probably plenty.
[19:58] <TimbrWu|f> Sinatra: run it, and open the .iso in it and burn it
[19:58] <bucky> Shawnc: well you don't have libreadline5-dev which contains tilde.h and should have been warned when you did run configure
[19:59] <Shuzer> Hello, I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 with a TV Tuner card inside. Whats a good TV App to try? tvtime? My TV? Mythubuntu?
[19:59] <frostbite7> Good Afternoon. Does anyone know how to use wine? If you do, could you tell me how?
[19:59] <Fougner> bucky, nice one there ;D
[19:59] <Fougner> frostbite7, google? =)
[19:59] <DasEi1> Shuzer:tvtime
[19:59] <Fougner> frostbite7, what do you want to know?
[19:59] <frostbite7> i did. lol
[19:59] <Shuzer> thank you
[19:59] <ubuntu> hello i want to remaster jaunty.....can i?
[19:59] <zortec> qweyth: In gparted, it's at the front of the partition with linux and swap at the end... but unless I can figure out the problem with my cdrom I might have to install ubuntu for the 4th time... it's really annoying
[19:59] <DasEi1> !info tvtime | Shuzer
[19:59] <|Aria|> anyone know a good guide for installing ATI Radeon HD4670 on ubunty 9.04?
[19:59] <frostbite7> how to run a windows based software through wine
[19:59] <TimbrWu|f> Incarus: it's a Gateway M series laptop 3 gig ram, 220gig hd, ati radeon x1270, realtek wireless/network card I even had Ubuntu dl and install the latest Ati driver package about 45 mins before it died this last time and it still ended up in the same horrid death
[20:00] <zortec> qwyeth: I had to use a minimal install cd because of my onboard video and now I don't have a cdrom
[20:00] <Shuzer> Thanks
[20:00] <frostbite7> .....fougner
[20:00] <DasEi1> !ati | |Aria|
[20:00] <Sh3r1ff> Shawnc: looks like you do not have libreadline dev installed
[20:00] <Jethro> my system freezes when i try to return from suspend mode, can someone please help me fix this?
[20:00] <Fougner> frostbite7, well, you download the exe.. then execute it through wine?
[20:00] <Incarus> TimbrWu|f	, pls paste "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[20:00] <Fougner> frostbite7, is there a specifik app you're trying to install?
[20:00] <DasEi1> |Aria| : did you check system > hardwaredrivers for that card ?
[20:00] <Fougner> specific*
[20:00] <pehden> i need a non gnome text editor with gui
[20:00] <vigo> Sinatra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto  <<that explains it very well.
[20:01] <Fougner> pehden, lots of them
[20:01] <frostbite7> no just wanted to know for general software use.
[20:01] <TimbrWu|f> I cant, Ubuntu is nothing but a bunch of colored garbage lines at the top of the screen, that's what it always ends up as after a couple hours
[20:01] <Fougner> pehden, jeany
[20:01] <|Aria|> DasEi1: how do I check yhat?
[20:01] <pehden> faugner
[20:01] <pehden> thanks
[20:01] <Fougner> pehden, np
[20:01] <Jethro> will someone please help me???
[20:01] <Shawnc> thanks bucky .
[20:01] <|Aria|> pretty much Ultimate Noobie ;)
[20:01] <MattPhilie> This is very confusing.. I just got Ubuntu.. How the heck do I download this CairoDock? I cannot find the download link or how to get this to work.. Sorry.. I just got Ubuntu..
[20:01] <Shawnc> I got it now :P
[20:02] <DasEi1> |Aria| : look in your main menu > system > hardwaredrivers
[20:02] <Incarus> Jethro, which ubunter version?
[20:02] <Incarus> *ubuntu
[20:02] <Jethro> 8.10
[20:02] <frostbite7> thanks fougner... i appreciate your time....
[20:02] <frostbite7> later
[20:02] <Fougner> frostbite7, anytime
[20:02] <Incarus> Jethro, update to latest ubuntu (9.04) should work
[20:02] <schiller83> +1
[20:02] <Sh3r1ff> Shawnc: reading the error will most likely guide you to the problem ;)
[20:02] <ph8> hi all, during the upgrade from intrepid -> jaunty my encrypted swap stopped mounting on boot - to get around this I can do alt+ sysrq + RSE during boot, tacky but it seems to skip the stuck 'waiting for encrypted source device prompt' and boots me up without swap
[20:02] <ph8> any idea how to fix it?