[10:14] <navarone> borgista, you can select fluxbox session at login
[10:14] <pashaw> dbernar1,   no  but it can
[10:14] <nickrud> dbernar1, no, as yourself
[10:14] <delltony> well either way how do i determine where boot is cause if i boot via live cd boot is only what i mount boot as
[10:14] <St-> if i removing  cupsys-driver-gimpprint , alway error
[10:15] <mwe> pashaw: bad idea though
[10:15] <nickrud> delltony, normally /boot is on the / partition in ubuntu.
[10:15] <pashaw> mwe,    true
[10:15] <borgista> navarone: Where is the startup file so that I can add an application to it ?
[10:15] <dbernar1> It is not letting me run it as myself. I will try with xdm, I guess.
[10:15] <navarone> borgista, no idea
[10:15] <borgista> Hmmm...
[10:15] <delltony> well what /dev
[10:15] <delltony> thats what i don't understand
[10:16] <borgista> Does ubuntu have an X11 startup file I can add a line to navarone?
[10:16] <mwe> dbernar1: what's the error?
[10:16] <delltony> as in mount <whatgoes here> /boot/
[10:16] <navarone> again borgista no idea...:/
[10:17] <dbernar1> mwe: I guess it is gone now, it seems. It was telling me I am not authorized.
[10:17] <mwe> delltony: you mad a seperate /boot partition?
[10:17] <dbernar1> Ya, it is gone now, it works.
[10:17] <nickrud> delltony, you wouldn't mount /boot, you'd mount /
[10:17] <nickrud> delltony, then boot is at /boot on your mounted partition
[10:18] <delltony> ok so it would be mount /dev/hda2 /
[10:18] <nickrud> delltony, if that's the partition that has /
[10:18] <delltony> thats what i'm trying to find :(
[10:18] <Draken> err guys
[10:18] <Draken> wats diffrent between Kubuntu and ubuntu ?
[10:18] <mwe> delltony: what are you trying to do though? if the system is booted, / is mounted already, obviously
[10:19] <borgista> Draken:  Kubuntu = KDE,  Ubuntu = GNOME
[10:19] <Draken> so its just GUI ?
[10:19] <gnomefreak> kubuntu-kde ubuntu=gnome
[10:19] <nickrud> delltony, well, I'd use sudo fdisk -l, and try mounting partitions until I found the right one
[10:19] <navarone> delltony it would be hda1 if you have windows installed on same drive...hda0 is first then hda1 is second partition
[10:19] <gnomefreak> xubuntu=xfce
[10:19] <Draken> so its just GUI ?
[10:19] <gnomefreak> nbuntu=server :( still kinda shaky on that one
[10:19] <mwe> hda1 is the first partition, afiak
[10:20] <borgista> Draken:  KDE & GNOME are Desktop Environments.
[10:20] <delltony> so it should be mount /dev/hda1 /
[10:20] <mwe> navarone: try sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda and you'll see no hda0
[10:20] <gnomefreak> kde and gnome are GUI desktops
[10:21] <mwe> delltony: what are you trying to do? are you already booted into your system or what?
[10:21] <navarone> mwe I sit corrected
[10:21] <delltony> no not already booted
[10:21] <delltony> trying to get grub menu to work
[10:21] <delltony> originally all worked fine i resized parttions and all went to hell
[10:22] <navarone> delltony, does the grub menu simply hang?
[10:22] <delltony> had to reinstall windows cause of lost ntldr
[10:22] <delltony> it takes me to grub>
[10:22] <arrik> does anyone know why i can't compile packages?
[10:22] <arrik> when i try i get this
[10:22] <delltony> cause i pointed it to the wrong boot obviously
[10:22] <arrik> Makefile.inc:102: Default KERNELPATH not found, using /usr/src/linux
[10:22] <arrik> Makefile.inc:109: *** KERNELPATH: /usr/src/linux does not exist.  Stop.
[10:23] <gnomefreak> is ther ea way to check if you have 3D other than installing app for 3D?
[10:23] <paulcat> how does wireless work with ubuntu? i can't get an ip from my router for some reason
[10:23] <navarone> dell...sudo fdisk -l will list partitons...any with an * in desciption are bootable
[10:23] <gnomefreak> !wifi
[10:23] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:23] <mwe> arrik: what's that?
[10:24] <mwe> arrik: what are you trying to do?
[10:24] <delltony> ok in that case its /dev/hda1 cause it has a * in it
[10:24] <arrik> trying to install the madwifi drivers
[10:24] <delltony> so how would i mount it would i do mount /dev/hda1 /
[10:24] <delltony> ?
[10:24] <navarone> delltony, does it say Linux filesystem?
[10:24] <delltony> no
[10:24] <delltony> it says ntfs
[10:24] <arrik> but when i cd into the directory and use the command "make" to start the process it give me that error message
[10:24] <delltony> hda2 says linux file system
[10:24] <mwe> delltony: that's your doze then
[10:25] <delltony> so how to fix?
[10:25] <navarone> delltony, I think I am out of my experience. I have only installed grub on floppy in order to avoid this sort of thing with mbr...lol
[10:26] <navarone> arrik...I am thinking you do not have the kernel sources
[10:26] <arrik> ok, where do i get them?
[10:26] <nickrud> delltony, are you running a livecd?
[10:26] <delltony> yes
[10:26] <delltony> following the wiki instructions to the best i knw how
[10:27] <nickrud> delltony, which wiki?
[10:27] <Razor-X> psusi: by the way, I don't use SSH to only forward ports, I also use it as a secure telnet/rlogin
[10:27] <navarone> arrik> try synaptic...search for kernel and chose "dev" packages for your arch type
[10:27] <gnomefreak> is there a way to test your 3D?
[10:27] <Razor-X> gnomefreak: ``glxgears'' should
[10:27] <delltony> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:27] <mwe> gnomefreak: glxinfo|grep direct
[10:27] <Razor-X> check the FPS, if it's fast, then 3D is working, if it's not, it's probably not :)
[10:27] <mebaran151> hey
[10:28] <delltony> cause i knw for a fact my linux stuff is still there can i can see it when i ls
[10:28] <navarone> gnomefreak, glxgears -printfps  to see fps  I get around 3000fps with geforce3
[10:28] <gnomefreak> glxgears came up is that good or bad?
[10:28] <mebaran151> is the unstable release ready for beta testing
[10:28] <delltony> and i knw the windows stuff is still there
[10:28] <Razor-X> gnomefreak: check the FPS
[10:28] <delltony> but i have no grub :(
[10:28] <mwe> gnomefreak: good, but no proof glx is working
[10:28] <mebaran151> or is it still being restructured
[10:28] <mebaran151> gnomefreak, not that good
[10:28] <mwe> gnomefreak: glxinfo|grep direct will show
[10:28] <mebaran151> my Geforce3 gets about 6 grand or so
[10:29] <ubuntu> Am I on freenode right now?
[10:29] <nickrud> delltony, that page makes it harder than it is :)
[10:29] <gnomefreak> 6 grand what?
[10:29] <psusi> Razor-X: right... but I prefer the existing telnet over either ssl or ipsec
[10:29] <delltony> well hard soft whatever can we please fix it :)
[10:29] <gnomefreak> 456 frames in 5.9 secs =91.141
[10:29] <nickrud> delltony, ok, where are you mounting your hda2?
[10:29] <Razor-X> psusi: for what reason? just plain preference?
[10:29] <St-> gnomefreak, i resolv ;)! killall -9 cupsd
[10:29] <gnomefreak> and raising
[10:29] <St-> it is a bug ?
[10:30] <mwe> gnomefreak: type glxinfo|grep direct to see if direct rendering is working or not
[10:30] <St-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6279
[10:30] <gnomefreak> glxinfo|grep direct
[10:30] <gnomefreak> oops
[10:30] <Stormx2> evil doer
[10:30] <mwe> gnomefreak: in a console :)
[10:31] <gnomefreak> lol yeah
[10:31] <gnomefreak> ok what am i looking for in this?
[10:31] <psusi> Razor-X: simplicity... the fewer apps the better... ssh reinvented the wheel without need... also it requires that you manually install the RSA keys of each user on each server... with ssl or ipsec you can use a central CA to issue certificates to all users
[10:31] <gnomefreak> mesa glx indirect?
[10:31] <mwe> gnomefreak: bad
[10:31] <psusi> Razor-X: and each server only needs the CA's certificate to authenticate all the users
[10:31] <gnomefreak> bad meaning 3D not set up?
[10:31] <Florob> I have a wired problem with ALSA/esd. If i put "defaults.pcm.card 1" in my .asoundrc the card (Audiophile 2496 /ICE1712) seems to work, but esd only recognizes it only mono. If I put pcm.!default { type hw  card 1 } (shortend), which is supposed to be equivalent if I understand it correctly, esd doesn't recognize it at all and say the sound card is not suitable. Any idea why this happens or how to solve it?
[10:32] <mwe> gnomefreak: it should say 'direct rendering: Yes'
[10:32] <gnomefreak> direct rendering: no
[10:32] <mwe> gnomefreak: yeah 3d acceleration is not working
[10:32] <gnomefreak> ok well just great 3D card and ati drivers =no help :)
[10:32] <EddieDaMan> hello all = )
[10:32] <gnomefreak> hi EddieDaMan
[10:33] <boa-chan> having some trouble compiling ffmpeg-.0.4.9-pre1
[10:33] <mwe> gnomefreak: it works here, so it's possible. I have a radeon 9700m
[10:33] <gnomefreak> i have another card downstairs but this card says 3d
[10:33] <boa-chan> heres my error
[10:33] <boa-chan> http://pastebin.com/482085
[10:34] <mwe> gnomefreak: what's the card you have in the pc now?
[10:34] <gnomefreak>  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c)
[10:34] <EddieDaMan> Please help me make mplayer my default video player. My totem xine doesn't work very well for video streaming on my ubunto 5.10.
[10:35] <boa-chan> totem and xine arent the same thing
[10:35] <munzir> hi sirs, I installed ubuntu and then from synaptic I added the packages of kubuntu and edubuntu. Now when I boot the system I see the screen of kubuntu and when I log in I see the childish icons and the wallpaper of edubuntu. How can I change this?
[10:35] <EddieDaMan> I get the error "no picture" with totem
[10:35] <mwe> gnomefreak: did you read the ati.com support page to see if it's supported
[10:35] <nalioth> munzir: at your login window, click on "sessions' and choose the one you want
[10:35] <gnomefreak> mwe,  no i read the wiki though :)
[10:35] <Seveas> munzir, for the usplash: update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname-r)
[10:36] <Razor-X> psusi: you could say that, but then I assume you also agree with my idea that the blog is a useless concept?
[10:36] <Seveas> for the icons: use the theme selector in system -> preferences
[10:36] <mwe> gnomefreak: but it's a rather old card isn't it?
[10:36] <paulcat> i've looked at the docs, but i still dont get an ip from my router
[10:36] <paulcat> activating the wlan0 connection just times out, i think
[10:36] <Razor-X> psusi: and that blogging was part of the original intent of the draft for a ``web page'' once the internet opened up to the general public
[10:36] <EddieDaMan> seveas. could you help make mplayer my default browser video player?
[10:37] <gnomefreak> yeah it is an onboard card and not really new p2 lol
[10:37] <StoneCypher> Is there an active X-Windows or Nano-X channel somewherE?
[10:37] <Seveas> EddieDaMan, sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem*
[10:37] <mwe> gnomefreak: on ati.com it says you need a radeon 8500 or newer to use fglrx
[10:37] <gsuveg> re
[10:37] <paulcat> i've looked at the wifi stuff on the wiki, but i still dont get an ip from my router
[10:38] <mwe> gnomefreak: unless I mesread it
[10:38] <gsuveg> where is the gimptool ? anyone know ?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[10:38] <boa-chan> gtk ?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> go there cause thats about motherboard cards
[10:38] <gnomefreak> is that me?
[10:38] <munzir> nalioth, Seveas: thanks but what about the desktop theme itself? how can I revert from edubuntu to ubuntu again?
[10:38] <Seveas> for the icons: use the theme selector in system -> preferences
[10:38] <Seveas> ^--
[10:38] <veleno> this is the content of my /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist : soundcore
[10:38] <veleno>  snd_intel8x0
[10:38] <veleno>  snd_ac97_codec
[10:38] <veleno> snd_pcm_oss
[10:38] <veleno> snd_mixer_oss
[10:38] <veleno> snd_pcm
[10:38] <veleno>  snd_timer
[10:38] <nalioth> munzir: i'm not sure about edubuntu, i've never used it
[10:39] <odat> are there any tools to virtually mount a cd like with alcohol or daemon tools for linux?
[10:39] <nalioth> veleno: please read the /topic and dont paste in here
[10:39] <Seveas> veleno, apt-get install brain
[10:39] <Seveas> and paste on the pastebin
[10:39] <paulcat> any ideas on getting an ip from my wireless router? i can see the ap in the iwlist scan, but there's no way to connect
[10:39] <boa-chan> lol
[10:39] <boa-chan> so yea
[10:39] <boa-chan> can someone help me with this error
[10:39] <levander> Does everybody else have to plug in a PS/2 keyboard to get past the boot prompt with the LiveCD?  Then, after the boot prompt, the LiveCD is fine?
[10:39] <boa-chan> http://pastebin.com/482085
[10:40] <EddieDaMan> seveas, hmm, this may be the root of my totem problems... " No such file or directory"
[10:40] <arrik> about the graphics thing, i have fglrx installed and it says my card is supported, but i don't have direct rendering either
[10:40] <arrik> or could it be because i'm on a laptop?
[10:40] <paulcat> boa-chan, try doing it with sudo
[10:40] <Razor-X> boa-chan: if you're Boa, I'm going to go and kill you :P
[10:41] <EddieDaMan> seveas, when i do try to stream video, is says "no picture"
[10:41] <odat> are there any tools to virtually mount a cd like with alcohol or daemon tools for linux?
[10:41] <nalioth> levander: no. that is the first i've heard of that
[10:41] <kbrooks> he all
[10:41] <paulcat> any ideas on getting an ip from my wireless router? i can see the ap, but can't connect to it
[10:41] <levander> nalioth, it's wierd, i am going through a kvm switch, but the kvm switch works fine after the boot prompt
[10:41] <Florob> odat: yes it's called mount
[10:41] <janoli> hi all!
[10:41] <boa-chan> Razor-X ?
[10:41] <boa-chan> paulcat, i did
[10:41] <Ribs> does anyone else have a problem with the window list at the bottom of the screen going all strange and corrupting?
[10:41] <Razor-X> boa-chan: nevermind...
[10:42] <levander> nalioth, you recall using a USB keyboard just fine with the boot prompt on the LiveCD?
[10:42] <Razor-X> boa-chan: bad joke, mind me
[10:42] <boa-chan> lol
[10:42] <janoli> i'm triyng to configure a laser usb printer but nothing happens
[10:42] <boa-chan> sudo make install does same thing
[10:42] <blanky> could ubuntu be packaged with extra packages
[10:42] <munzir> Seveas: thanks a lot for your great help. so I need to use theme to change the icons and then go and change the background manually. thanks again
[10:42] <blanky> so like if you dont have internet
[10:42] <odat> Florob, i want to virtually mount a cd
[10:42] <blanky> then you could put them on and install them fromt he cD
[10:43] <Florob> odat: how would you virtually mount a cd? Do you mean a cd image?
[10:43] <mwe> blanky: of course it could, I don't know if it will though
[10:43] <boa-chan> paulcat, any other ideas
[10:43] <janoli> any help with a xerx phaser 3121 ??
[10:43] <blanky> mwe, what?
[10:43] <paulcat> boa-chan, what is the source package you're trying to build?
[10:43] <sammi987> need the line to sudo root pw on this freshly installed ubuntu.. use slack myself but helps a freind and gave him a hot begginner OS
[10:43] <boa-chan> ffmpeg-0.4.9-pre1/
[10:44] <Ribs> yeah, tad worried here
[10:44] <odat> Florob, yes
[10:44] <Ribs> the whole bottom panel is no longer responding...
[10:44] <gnomefreak> blanky, if im not mistaken the cdrom repo does that for you
[10:44] <gnomefreak> just make sure all other repos are # out
[10:44] <paulcat> boa-chan, not sure really
[10:44] <boa-chan> heh
[10:44] <boa-chan> doesnt anyone here use ffmpeg
[10:44] <dStar> ide like to
[10:44] <janoli> I did boa-chan
[10:44] <Florob> odat: well, you do that with `mount -o loop your-iso-image.iso /mnt`
[10:44] <boa-chan> wonder why this wont compile
[10:44] <paulcat> any ideas on getting an ip from my wireless router? i can see the ap, but can't connect to it
[10:45] <sammi987> ubuntu seems a lot like my mac.. had to do the same sudo as i have to here to gain root pw setting.. just dont remember the line
[10:45] <Razor-X> boa-chan: I have no specific help, but I suggest you gogle for compile errors
[10:45] <boa-chan> yea
[10:45] <Razor-X> boa-chan: just take the error line, and put it in google, and see what you get
[10:45] <nalioth> sammi987: have you ever thought there was a reason that OSX and ubuntu dont have a root account ?
[10:45] <Draken> u guys know ubuntu was made by a south african
[10:45] <Draken> ;p
[10:45] <EddieDaMan> is the totem-xine-firefox-plugin bad?
[10:45] <Razor-X> Draken: if you mean SABDFL, yes
[10:45] <Ribs> Draken: no, it was funded by Mark
[10:45] <mwe> paulcat: how are you trying to connect to it?
[10:45] <blanky> gnomefreak, is there a cd i could get that has a lot of packages for ubuntu
[10:45] <Ribs> I don't think he does much actual coding
[10:45] <blanky> cuase my host pc doesnt have internet
[10:45] <synmoo> Question: I'm partially through kubuntu setup, created a partition in the largest contiguous free space (I had around 6 gigs unallocated). It created a new ext3 and swap partition and is now installing. Partition 1 on the disk is my windows xp install, yet thus far in the install, there has been no mention of the bootloader allowing me to choose which partition to boot to. Did I miss a step?
[10:45] <paulcat> mwe, just with the gnome network gui
[10:46] <psusi> Razor-X: I don't like the name blog... it sounds like something you do in the bathroom... heh..... I also don't quite understand how it differs from a wiki... I like wikis
[10:46] <janoli> any help with a xerx phaser 3121 ??
[10:46] <Ribs> synmoo: on a simple install, you don't get the option
[10:46] <gnomefreak> blanky,  what do you mean the cd you have doesnt have enough packages on it?
[10:46] <sammi987> nalioth: sry but i had my mac OSX a day till i needed the pw set to get along with it
[10:46] <Ribs> synmoo: it will just install grub onto the mbr, but should create a option for Windows.
[10:46] <mwe> paulcat: I don't know that sorry. with iwconfig you can manually set your ap, then run dhclient to get an ip
[10:46] <sethk> synmoo, it will make ubuntu the default.  You can change it later
[10:46] <janoli> any help with a xerx phaser 3121 printer ??  seems to be all right but doesn't print
[10:46] <paulcat> mwe, but wouldn't that mean you had to do it after every reboot?
[10:46] <synmoo> Ribs: Thanks. Was just making sure. I've got partition magic available if things go awry, but it's nice to know that I won't really need to worry about it.
[10:46] <nalioth> sammi987: i'm not disputing your choices, just that there must be something to "no root account" or Apple and Ubuntu wouldnt do it that way, eh?
[10:46] <mebaran151> what's the new devel branch of ubuntu
[10:47] <mwe> paulcat: that involves command line though
[10:47] <sethk> ubuntu doesn't do it that way
[10:47] <sethk> there is most certainly a root account
[10:47] <nalioth> mebaran151: dapper drake?
[10:47] <mwe> paulcat: then you could probably figure out what info you need to put in your interfaces file
[10:47] <mebaran151> I was thinking of moving my brezzy install to new version
[10:47] <nalioth> sethk: there is a root account in OSX, too. They are disabled by default for a reason.
[10:47] <levander> Is there a replacement for parted that does support copying ntfs filesystems?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> mebaran151, stay with breezy
[10:47] <nalioth> levander: qtparted
[10:47] <gnomefreak> !root
[10:47] <blanky> yeah, I want extra packages taht I want customized
[10:48] <blanky> like, say I want blender 3d or eclipse sdk
[10:48] <sethk> nalioth, the account is _not_ disabled
[10:48] <blanky> in a cd
[10:48] <blanky> gnomefreak
[10:48] <levander> nalioth, that doesn't just use the regular parted back-end?
[10:48] <sethk> nor is it disabled in osx
[10:48] <gnomefreak> why is ubotu on a pm kick?
[10:48] <nalioth> levander: it will work with your ntfs
[10:48] <hd420> why can't I do x forwarding properly?
[10:48] <sammi987> nalioth: ok i only know the old way so if i am to help my freind here id need to get root acces
[10:48] <hd420> sethk: sure it is, try logging in as root?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> sethk, it most certainly is in ubuntu
[10:48] <sethk> hd420, it is _not_ disabled.  The password is not set, which is an entirely different thing
[10:48] <Necrosan> PCI Radeons dont work with fglrx, do they?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sethk  about root
[10:48] <odat> who know how to virtually mount a cd
[10:48] <mwe> sammi987: sudo -i will give you a root prompt
[10:49] <levander> nalioth, anyway of getting qtparted installed when running the livecd?
[10:49] <janoli> any help with a xerx phaser 3121 printer ??  seems to be all right but doesn't print
[10:49] <sethk> gnomefreak, I know all about the root password.  I have four ubuntu systems running here
[10:49] <synmoo> you can do sudu passwd root and change the root password...
[10:49] <nalioth> levander: use apt-get or synaptic
[10:49] <sethk> synmoo, correct, which of course you could not do if the account were disabled
[10:49] <janoli> mount -o loop <mountpoint> <file.iso> odat
[10:49] <Necrosan> ANYONE?
[10:49] <synmoo> sethk: correct
[10:49] <sammi987> mwe ty
[10:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Necrosan about anyone
[10:49] <mwe> sammi987: however, to do it the 'new' way, just type sudo in front of everything you need to do as root
[10:50] <philuk86> ive rebuilt a ubuntu package, applying a custom patch to postfix, how do i increment the ubuntu release number? there is no version= in the control file.
[10:50] <synmoo> Ribs: The install is now asking about my windows xp partition. Thanks for the headsup.
[10:50] <sethk> sudo is at least 15 years old
[10:50] <Necrosan> nalioth: Hehe.
[10:50] <Necrosan> Do PCI Radeon 9250's work with fglrx?
[10:50] <hd420> why can't I do x forwarding properly?
[10:50] <Necrosan> It keeps hardlocking the system
[10:50] <Ribs> synmoo: You're welcome. Tho it was all guesswork :>
[10:50] <gnomefreak> Necrosan, yes should
[10:50] <Necrosan> when i reboot..
[10:50] <Ribs> synmoo: Windows free here ;)
[10:50] <arrik> how do i install java for firefox?
[10:50] <Necrosan> im following that little radeon guide
[10:50] <Necrosan> to the button
[10:51] <Necrosan> and its shitting all over me
[10:51] <gnomefreak> Necrosan,  me too
[10:51] <gnomefreak> dont feel bad
[10:51] <StoneCypher> arrik: go get the java installer from sun.  it looks for firefox on its own.
[10:51] <Necrosan> heh
[10:51] <Necrosan> It's lockin yer system up too?
[10:51] <mwe> hd420: probably because you don't know how to do it :)
[10:51] <nalioth> Necrosan: language please
[10:51] <Necrosan> Were you using 686 by any chance?
[10:51] <Necrosan> linux-686
[10:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell arrik about java
[10:51] <bshumate> sethk: sudo is 25 years old actually
[10:51] <Necrosan> nalioth: very very frustrating.
[10:51] <gnomefreak> nope
[10:51] <sethk> bshumate, sounds about right.  I did say "at least" 15.  :)
[10:51] <Necrosan> And are there even any real benefits to switching to 686?
[10:51] <dsas> how do i find out which keycodes certain buttons emit ?
[10:52] <Necrosan> Would there be noticable performance increases?
[10:52] <hd420> mwe: probably, though, on the other hand, I have code in openssh
[10:52] <dsas> necrosan: not really.
[10:52] <sethk> Necrosan, unlikely
[10:52] <mwe> dsas: xev
[10:52] <mebaran151> eclipse doesn't work on my machine
[10:52] <dsas> mwe, thanks
[10:52] <mebaran151> I'm running AMD64, which might be a problem
[10:52] <hd420> mebaran151: welcome to the club
[10:52] <Razor-X> psusi: good, you understand then
[10:52] <mebaran151> hd420, are we going to have tea and crumpets?
[10:53] <Necrosan> ok
[10:53] <gnomefreak> im seeing alot of things dont work on 64 that does on 32 :( but you can always install 32bit program im sure
[10:53] <hd420> mebaran151: hahaha... good one, mate, I was hoping for beer or wine myself
[10:53] <Razor-X> psusi: I've always thought of the blog as redundant
[10:53] <EddieDaMan> gnomefreak what is the mplayer plugin for mozilla-firefox?
[10:53] <mwe> hd420: the log files don't help, or a forum/wiki search?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> EddieDaMan, mplugger
[10:53] <levander> nalioth,  qtparted freezes when opening the disk with the ntfs filesystem with this message on the console: "No Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet."
[10:53] <the--dud> where does usb sticks appear under /dev?
[10:53] <mebaran151> I'm thinking of moving to unstable branch
[10:53] <mebaran151> because
[10:54] <EddieDaMan> thanks
[10:54] <y_o_u> hello, hope everyone is doing well. i am trying to install drivers for my Belkin wireless PCI card. after installing ndiswrapper and while going through the wiki tutuorial, i am getting an error. when i run the "sudo ndiswrapper -l" command, i get a message saying "installed ndis drivers:     bcmwl5a invalid driver!       bcmwl5adriver present"  same exact card as in the tutorial, so any ideas why the error? thanks
[10:54] <gnomefreak> EddieDaMan, its in synaptic
[10:54] <mebaran151> a) I like bugzilla
[10:54] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:54] <the--dud> sda* would be the usual place, but I have none of them on breezy
[10:54] <mebaran151> b)  I like shiny and blinding things
[10:54] <dsas> mwe, if xev doesn't recognise the keys is there anything else I can do to find them out?
[10:54] <mebaran151> is the development branch ready for beta as opposed to alpha testers yet?
[10:54] <synmoo> Question: What's the command to reconfig the xorg server? I was using it yesterday and can't remember what it was. It walked me through each step of the config file.
[10:54] <mwe> dsas: it doesn't print a keycode?
[10:55] <odat> anyone know how to copy cd's that are protected?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> mebaran151,  i dont think ubuntu uses beta but its still alpha
[10:55] <the--dud> everything is good in /proc/bus/usb... but I need to know where it goes in dev
[10:55] <Razor-X> mebaran151: come to offtopic, man
[10:55] <the--dud> does anyone know?
[10:55] <dsas> mebaran151, using the dapper flight 2 disk is *probably* ok if you're commited. I wouldn't advise apt-get upgrading from there though
[10:55] <gnomefreak> dapper drake flight 2 is slpha
[10:55] <dsas> mwe, nope.
[10:55] <nalioth> levander: then you are using a weird version of qtparted, mine works fine
[10:55] <mebaran151> ah ok
[10:56] <psusi> Razor-X: the blog itself, or the new name?
[10:56] <dsas> mwe, it's for laptop special keys...
[10:56] <Razor-X> psusi: name, the concept
[10:56] <mwe> dsas: does dmesg show anything about unkown keycodes, use setkeycodes to make it known?
[10:56] <ddfreyne> Having some odd issue. None of my menus in gnome want to open anymore.
[10:56] <levander> nalioth, i am just running what was installed from breezy universe
[10:56] <Razor-X> psusi: I think the original web page encompasses the concept, no need to give it a ``hip new name''
[10:56] <mebaran151> at least I finally got my PDA Cellphone to sync
[10:56] <ddfreyne> The menu title itself gets selected, but the menu doesn't fold open
[10:56] <ddfreyne> Any ideas?
[10:56] <dsas> mwe, yeah dmesg is giving lots of that
[10:56] <gnomefreak> ddfreyne,  try to restart gnome
[10:56] <psusi> Razor-X: I also think it's stupid to have a new name "podcasting" for something that people have been doing for years
[10:56] <the--dud> usb in /dev folks...? :o
[10:57] <psusi> Razor-X: you read maddox don't you? ;)
[10:57] <dsas> is the hex key it gives me the keycode I'm after to report as bug?
[10:57] <mwe> dsas: then you need to do what it says
[10:57] <freddie> need help with videos on myspace and every were else
[10:57] <nalioth> levander: i find that interesing cuz qtparted has had ntfs functionality for quite some time
[10:57] <paulcat> does anyone know if there's a pre-made kernel .config files for an ubuntu desktop system anywhere? i need to build a new kernel
[10:57] <dsas> mwe, ok, but ubuntu should do this for me right? and I should report it as a bug
[10:57] <freddie> need help with videos on myspace and every were else
[10:57] <nalioth> levander: make sure you have nftsprogs installed, also
[10:57] <ddfreyne> gnomefreak: Need to save my work first... how would I do that?
[10:57] <ddfreyne> (keyboard doesn't respond eihter)
[10:58] <benplaut> what is a static NAT, and will it get me out of port-forwarding hell? :/
[10:58] <freddie> need help with videos on myspace and every were else
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ddfreyne, have you been in reconfigure xserver-xorg recently?
[10:58] <EddieDaMan> gnomefreak: is mplugger what it is really called, can't seem to find it. What repository is it in
[10:58] <ddfreyne> gnomefreak: no
[10:58] <mwe> dsas: ubnutu doesn't know all funky hotkeys
[10:58] <freddie> need help with videos on myspace and every were else
[10:58] <freddie> plz
[10:58] <gnomefreak> !info mplugger
[10:58] <y_o_u> hello, hope everyone is doing well. i am trying to install drivers for my Belkin wireless PCI card. after installing ndiswrapper and while going through the wiki tutuorial, i am getting an error. when i run the "sudo ndiswrapper -l" command, i get a message saying "installed ndis drivers:     bcmwl5a invalid driver!       bcmwl5adriver present"  same exact card as in the tutorial, so any ideas why the error? thanks
[10:58] <mwe> dsas: I had to do it for my wifi switch
[10:59] <dsas> mwe, Yeah, I understand, but if I report these maybe dapper or dapper+1 will
[10:59] <gnomefreak> not sure EddieDaMan
[10:59] <EddieDaMan> hmmm
[10:59] <mwe> dsas: I don't know if it's cosidered a bug. maybe.
[10:59] <gnomefreak> EddieDaMan, what plug in are you looking for?
[10:59] <dsas> mwe, I have a button that doesn't do anything, I'd imagine it is...
[11:00] <gloubi> Salut
[11:00] <mwe> dsas: if you think it's a bug report it. if they agree maybe they'll try to fix it
[11:00] <EddieDaMan> gnomefreak, i would just like to make mplayer my default streaming video program when i browse, like windows media player
[11:00] <gnomefreak> EddieDaMan,  a list of programs and what repo they are in can be found at packages.ubuntu.com
[11:00] <janoli>  Could not find a suitable printer!  that says the printer properties .. !!
[11:00] <pashaw> paulcat,   sudo cp /boot/config-2.6.??.?? .config
[11:00] <Ganjhi> I need somebody to help me figure out why I can't gain access to my hard drives. Mind you, I'm a linux noobie, so please be patient! :) Here's my pastebin post; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6278
[11:00] <ddfreyne> Hmm, k, I'll figure it out... thanks gnomefreak
[11:00] <freddie> need help with videos on myspace and every were else
[11:00] <gnomefreak> ddfreyne,  look at site i posted
[11:01] <janoli> any helpp !!??
[11:01] <freddie> need help with videos on myspace and every were else they clouse my firefox
[11:01] <ddfreyne> gnomefreak: what site?
[11:01] <janoli> Could not find a suitable printer!  that says the printer properties ..
[11:01] <dsas> mwe,  I run "setkeycodes e01e"  but I also need to give it a second number as a keycode
[11:01] <dsas> mwe, e01e is apparently the scan code ?
[11:01] <freddie> need help with videos on myspace and every were else they clouse my firefox
[11:01] <mwe> dsas: yeah
[11:02] <EddieDaMan> gnomefreak, i downloaded the w32codecs but can't seem to make mplayer or vlc my default video streamer.
[11:02] <EddieDaMan> the w32codecs are installed
[11:02] <dsas> mwe, How do I know what to put as the second number?
[11:02] <freddie> need help with videos on myspace and every were else they clouse my firefox
[11:02] <mwe> dsas: look in /usr/include/linux/input.h to find the one that matches your key best. probably 200 something
[11:02] <boa-chan> paulcat, it's compiling now
[11:02] <janoli> Could not find a suitable printer!  that says the printer properties ..
[11:02] <Ganjhi> Nobody?
[11:03] <burnhamd> how do I change kernel attributes
[11:03] <janoli> any help ?
[11:03] <burnhamd> do i edit them from grub
[11:03] <freddie> need help with videos on myspace and every were else they close my firefox
[11:03] <dsas> mwe, thanks, i'll take a look
[11:03] <pashaw> freddie,   i think you can forget it  spamming it 8 times  youll be ignored
[11:04] <hh> sera a tutti
[11:04] <freddie> pashaw srry
[11:04] <mwe> dsas: you need linux-kernel-headers installed to get that file though
[11:04] <Ganjhi> Has anybody else had any problems gaining access to their hard drives? I'm pretty sure it's a problem with my user permissions, even though this is my computer and I'm the sole user...
[11:05] <Ganjhi> my pastebin post http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6278
[11:05] <munzir> hi sirs, I want to move my ubuntu installation from one partition to another can I just cp -a it?
[11:05] <mebaran151> ok I'm biting the bullet
[11:05] <mebaran151> just changed my sources.list to reflect the new dapper
[11:05] <bolrod> tru
[11:05] <munzir> gana: what's the error you get?
[11:05] <pashaw> !tell Ganjhi about ntfs
[11:05] <Ganjhi> Me?
[11:05] <munzir> Ganjhi: : what's the error you get?
[11:05] <freddie> need help with videos on myspace and every were else they close my firefox
[11:06] <Ganjhi> There's a screen of it on my pastebin post; I need somebody to help me figure out why I can't gain access to my hard drives. Mind you, I'm a linux noobie, so please be patient! :) Here's my pastebin post; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6278
[11:06] <visik7> is cupsd of Breezy bugged ?
[11:06] <Ganjhi> Woops, just ment to copy the URL after pastebin post;
[11:06] <pashaw> Ganjhi,  read the message sent to you
[11:06] <AndyR> anyone else struggling with samba shares in breezy?
[11:06] <janoli> mprimiendo: Could not find a suitable printer!
[11:06] <fozzy> hey i just installed mysql....but I have no clue where to start to configure it...
[11:07] <gnomefreak> i think im gonna take a look at my other card tonight
[11:07] <navarone> pashaw Ganjhi knows about ntfs...the problem is he cannot access drives at all...even to read
[11:07] <Ganjhi> Thank you Pashaw
[11:07] <ice-t> Ganjhi, ubuntu is not able to write on ntfs-file-systems
[11:07] <fozzy> is there a howto somewhere?  where does ubuntu put the packages?
[11:07] <Ganjhi> Yep, that's it.
[11:07] <gnomefreak> fozzy, after they are installed?
[11:07] <pashaw> Ganjhi,   edit fstab   on the ntfs lines   replace "defaults"  with "ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000"
[11:08] <freddie> need help with videos on myspace and every were else they close my firefox
[11:08] <Ganjhi> How would I go abouts doing that?
[11:08] <pashaw> Ganjhi,   then umount  each one and mount them
[11:08] <fozzy> gnomefreak: yes, i guess so.  that might not be what i should be looking for
[11:08] <ubuntu> okay guess i'm back again...
[11:08] <fozzy> gnome: i'm trying to set it up to accept connections, and work with phpmyadmin
[11:08] <ubuntu> still got the windows usb drivers porblem in xp
[11:08] <pashaw> Ganjhi,   scroll down the link i sent you    and find this section   "Editing Ubuntu's filesystem table
[11:08] <pashaw> "    you dont ned the top part
[11:08] <gnomefreak> php is over my head
[11:09] <ubuntu> is there any way to install usb drivers in dos for windows xp?
[11:09] <Ganjhi> Okay, thanks
[11:09] <gnomefreak> ubuntu try #windows
[11:09] <fozzy> gnomefreak:  i can handle the php stuff....i just need to get mysql to accept connections...
[11:09] <gnomefreak> !mysql
[11:09] <ubotu> [lamp]  Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:09] <gnomefreak> fozzy try there
[11:09] <fozzy> much appreciated
[11:10] <freddie> need help with videos on the internet they close my firefox
[11:10] <sammi987> im using sudo -i passwd <password> , dont get a root pw set :(
[11:10] <cafuego> !start a user war
[11:10] <ubotu> lool is a massive gentoo-using lamer.
[11:10] <BYOCOM> hello?
[11:10] <pashaw> sammi987,   ???  you should have  #  instead of $
[11:10] <sammi987> how do i get #?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> freddie, first off spamming isnt helping you get seen next need help with video doesnt tell us anything
[11:10] <pashaw> sammi987,   why are changing passwords?
[11:11] <gnomefreak> sudo -i you get #
[11:11] <sammi987> pashaw: need to to use linux like i know it.. using slack myself, this is for freind
[11:11] <mwe> sammi987: sudo -i, then your user password will give you a root prompt. then use passwd to set the root password to do it
[11:11] <mwe> sammi987: sudo -i is not a command to set the root password
[11:11] <sorush20> is there a ubuntu key server?
[11:11] <visik7> sudo passwd
[11:11] <sammi987> mwe: kk ill try that
[11:11] <pashaw> sammi987,   your better off using Ubuntu the way IT was designed  use sudo   or sudo -i <password>
[11:11] <visik7> sorush20: keyserver for what ?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> gpg keys?
[11:12] <freddie> gnomefreak video codes close my window idk y
[11:12] <visik7> gnomefreak: isn't better to use public global server for public keys ?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell freddie  about codecs
[11:12] <mwe> sammi987: yeah really. there is no need to set a root password. just use sudo -i when you need a root prompt
[11:12] <ice-t> freddie, what plugins do you have? the mplayer-plugin works fine (the gstreamer-plugin did not)
[11:12] <St-> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=605654    ==> dapper bug
[11:13] <sammi987> mwe: i like working with a few #s open thats all :(
[11:13] <freddie> gnomefreak i dont have any
[11:13] <visik7> is there a testing/unstable branch of ubuntu ?
[11:13] <mwe> sammi987: bad habit
[11:13] <freddie> ice-t i dont have any
[11:13] <mebaran151> visik7, yeah dapper
[11:13] <mebaran151> go to your sources.list
[11:13] <fmasi> is eMule only for windows i nead xMule or aMule for linux or is ther eMule client for linux
[11:13] <mebaran151> and replace every breezy with dapper
[11:14] <gnomefreak> St-,  dapper has a bunch of bugs in sure its still very early
[11:14] <mwe> sammi987: though you can just sudo -i in any number of terminals you like
[11:14] <freddie> ice-t i think i dont have any
[11:14] <ice-t> freddie, install the mplayer plugin for firefox
[11:14] <sammi987> mwe: no it gives me a freedom making me independent of distro and all that other stuff
[11:14] <St-> yes yes!
[11:14] <rabbit> !gmail
[11:14] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, gmail is a free webmail service by google at http://www.gmail.com but beware it is invite only. Just find a friend willing to give you an invite. Or bug the nice folks in #kubuntu-offtopic.
[11:14] <freddie> ice-t were can i find it
[11:14] <dsas> mwe, yeah I must've installed them sometime previously
[11:14] <boa-chan> anyone know the dev name for ffmpeg
[11:14] <ice-t> freddie, do you know about apt-get?
[11:14] <gnomefreak> ffmpeg-dev?
[11:14] <freddie> ice-t nope
[11:14] <mwe> sammi987: it is a bad habit to always have a few root prompts open. one should only use root when it cannot be avoided
[11:14] <sammi987> mwe: still tells me its not working as password
[11:14] <sorush20> gnomefreak: yes. gpg
[11:15] <freddie> ice-t im a n00b to linux
[11:15] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sorush20 about gpg
[11:15] <mwe> sammi987: you type sudo -i, then the password of the user you're logged in as?
[11:15] <pashaw> sammi987,  maybe you should teach your friend the one you know     this one  uses sudo  to help beginners not hose the system
[11:15] <Ganjhi> pashaw, where would I paste
[11:15] <Ganjhi> ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 in the fstab? The warning on the link you sent me has got me paranoid, I don't wanna make any mistakes :|, also, because my HD is NTFS, I won't be able to write any files to it?
[11:15] <ice-t> freddie, open synaptic (system->systempropertys(or something like this)->synaptic) and search for "mplayer firefox"
[11:15] <nalioth> Ganjhi: writing to ntfs can destroy it
[11:16] <pashaw> Ganjhi,    using that line i gave you     put it where it says defaults   on the ntfs line
[11:16] <mwe> sammi987: having root prompts open all the time is a fairly severe security risk
[11:16] <psusi> Ganjhi: correct, you can't write to ntfs from ubuntu
[11:16] <Ganjhi> Okay, thanks.
[11:16] <pashaw> Ganjhi,   keep it ro   and youll be ok    dont ever try to force writing on ntfs
[11:16] <psusi> it won't let you
[11:16] <sammi987> mwe: doesnt do much difference, when im constantly altering my systems i need it and sudo -i takes my time.. no need or reason valid to alter that.. nothing serious going on on my machines anyway
[11:16] <Ganjhi> Hmmm, it kind of sucks not being able to write to my only HD :S
[11:17] <gnomefreak> fat32 is writable from linux no?
[11:17] <mwe> sammi987: well just type sudo -i then the password of the user you're logged in as
[11:17] <coNP> gnomefreak, it is
[11:17] <psusi> pashaw: the driver won't let you mount it rw... unless you built it yourself, and then it is actually safe, but you can only overwrite or truncate existing files... nothing more
[11:17] <gsuveg> gnomefreak: fat32 writable
[11:17] <pashaw> Ganjhi,   would it suck more if they got erased?
[11:17] <boa-chan> hey umm
[11:17] <boa-chan> im getting an error here
[11:17] <boa-chan> configure: error: ffmpeg >= 0.4.9-pre1 is required for video features.
[11:17] <virtusemporium> hello all.  im quite new to ubuntu but am loving it.  before diving in, id heard alot regarding how "terribly bloated it is", but have rather found it to be quite efficient.
[11:17] <boa-chan> but i have that installed
[11:17] <boa-chan> so it doesnt make sense
[11:17] <mwe> sammi987: unless that user is one you added after the installation and is not in the admin group
[11:17] <gnomefreak> since all windows has fat32 why dont people try that :(
[11:18] <Ganjhi> Before I have the chance to back up all my pr0n, yep!
[11:18] <Ganjhi> hehe, just kiddin'
[11:18] <gnomefreak> ntfs is a b*ch in a few ways
[11:18] <Ganjhi> So many episodes of Trailer Park Boys! :(
[11:18] <pashaw> psusi,   sounds nice but people always find a way      thats why i said  dont attempt it
[11:19] <psusi> pashaw: the only way I know if is to use captive ntfs... some people say it works fine.. but I don't trust it and it certainly isn't supported
[11:19] <mwe> I heard captive is not safe
[11:20] <ice-t> if you want to write safe on ntfs you have to use windows
[11:20] <pashaw> psusi,  im agreeing with you       but i dont assume they cant break it
[11:20] <foxiness> if i have flight cd 2 with firefox 1.5 can i install it on breezy ?
[11:20] <psusi> foxiness: no
[11:21] <freddie> ice-t, i cant find it
[11:21] <mind21_99> eek
[11:21] <pashaw> psusi,      dentist visit today   sorry if im typing snppy  not ment that way
[11:21] <server_newbie> Hi all
[11:21] <mind21_99> So...I'm getting pivot_root issues when booting Ubuntu from an external hard drive.
[11:21] <mind21_99> Any ideas?
[11:21] <brother_of_jared> Greets everyone..
[11:21] <psusi> pashaw: outch... problems?
[11:21] <mwe> foxiness: just dl it from mozilla.org and untar it in /opt/ or something
[11:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell foxiness about firefox15
[11:21] <mind21_99> (this was after I messed with Grub to get it to boot from the right place)
[11:21] <pashaw> psusi,   naw  just filling  in back right side
[11:22] <brother_of_jared> Could someone point me in the right direction on how to set up an internet server from home?
[11:22] <ice-t> freddie, then you have to add the universe to your sources.list
[11:22] <sammi987> mwe: ty for ur help.. have finally control of this system like i like it :p
[11:22] <mwe> !lamp
[11:22] <ubotu> lamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:22] <server_newbie> I have a problem with my apache2 install I am missing the whole /etc/apache2 dir. I have apt-get removed apache2 and din an install and still no dir. Any help ?
[11:22] <Ganjhi> When the wiki mentions the File Manager, is that the same as the File Browser?
[11:22] <freddie> ice-t, weres that
[11:22] <mwe> sammi987: good then
[11:22] <Goat> hi all
[11:22] <janoli> Could not find a suitable printer!
[11:22] <ice-t> freddie, i can't explain that good, because i'm not used to speak/write english, please read a manual or something like this
[11:23] <Goat> I am having podcast truble
[11:23] <brother_of_jared> mwe // thanks...
[11:23] <janoli> Could not find a suitable printer! ubuntu + xerox 3121
[11:23] <rabbit> does anyone know about some kind of 'gmail notifier' for linux ?
[11:23] <bshumate> Ganjhi: where doth the wiki mention File Manager?
[11:23] <gnomefreak> rabbit yes
[11:23] <Ganjhi> Under mounting and checking the partitions in this article; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:23] <freddie> ice-t, i dont have a manual
[11:23] <gnomefreak> its called gmail-notifier
[11:23] <ice-t> freddie, the file is there /etc/apt/sources.list, or you can edit it in synaptic
[11:23] <Goat> amaroK doesnt play music. Rythmbox works but it doesnt have podcast updating features
[11:23] <coNP> rabbit: mail-notification knows the gmail protocol
[11:23] <gnomefreak> funny name for it huh?
[11:24] <nalioth> rabbit: there is a gnome panel applet that checks your mail
[11:24] <pashaw> Ganjhi,   not sure what your reading but there is   this  System>Pref>File Managment
[11:24] <foxiness> psusi, can you tell me why i can not please ?
[11:24] <gnomefreak> open synaptic and search gmail it will come up
[11:24] <Goat> (amaroK just doessnt woek)
[11:24] <synmoo> Question: I'm running hidd --search to find my bluetooth mouse. It finds the mouse (shows it's MAC) then dumps out with: HID create error 13 (Permission Denied). Any suggestions?
[11:24] <brother_of_jared> back in a while...
[11:24] <Ganjhi> Yeah, I checked that, doesn't correspond to what the describe.
[11:24] <coNP> server_newbie: do you have the apache2-common packages installed?
[11:24] <gnomefreak> synmoo, you use sudo?
[11:24] <foxiness> nalioth, mwe thank you for informed me about how to install from tgz
[11:24] <rabbit> nolioth: where is that pannel?
[11:24] <ice-t> freddie, i only know a few manuals in german ^^^
[11:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell synmoo about sudo
[11:25] <server_newbie> coNP Yes I Do
[11:25] <coNP> rabbit: open System / Preferences / Mail Notification
[11:25] <pashaw> Ganjhi,   all you needed to do was edit that  defaults part  then  type  sudo mount -a
[11:25] <madsen_> !java
[11:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:25] <madsen_> !javadebs
[11:25] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[11:25] <freddie> ice-t, can i find it in the termanl
[11:25] <coNP> server_newbie: it should contain the /etc/apache2 files
[11:25] <Ganjhi> Yeah, I did that, hasn't helped any.
[11:25] <ice-t> can anybody tell freddie a good manual for beginners?
[11:26] <Kyral> about what?
[11:26] <psusi> foxiness: because itis for dapper, not breezy
[11:26] <apokryphos> ice: the wiki is the best place to start, ubuntu-wise
[11:26] <rabbit> coNP: I don't have Mail Notification there
[11:26] <pashaw> Ganjhi,   pastebin your new fstab
[11:26] <Ganjhi> I don't get the error when accessing one of the HD's, but I still cannot view the files within it.
[11:26] <gnomefreak> coNP, maybe its me but its not installed by default
[11:26] <apokryphos> ice-t: Linux-wise, rute manual is really good
[11:26] <gnomefreak> rabbit open synaptic and search for gmail
[11:26] <bshumate> Ganjhi: i see.  I presume that this article is referring to Nautilus / File Browser, but it is using poor terminology
[11:26] <gnomefreak> gmail-notifier is there i have it
[11:26] <synmoo> gnomefreak: Good call! It'd didn't error out this time.. but moving the mouse still doesn't move the cursor...
[11:26] <ice-t> apokryphos, tell freddie
[11:26] <coNP> gnomefreak, rabbit: sorry "mail-notification" package isn't installed by default
[11:27] <coNP> rabbit: open synaptic and install mail-notification (or gmail-notifier)
[11:27] <freddie> ice-t ill just cheak the wiki
[11:27] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell freddie about rute
[11:27] <bk> can someone tell me where an x windows tar file should be extracted?
[11:27] <boa-chan> whats the command to delete something
[11:27] <rabbit> coNP:  is gmail-notifier or mail-notification better?
[11:27] <rabbit> coNP:    how do I run synaptic?  you mean "add programs" ?
[11:27] <cafuego> bk: whut?
[11:27] <Ganjhi> pashaw, new pastebin post http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6280
[11:27] <gnomefreak> bk,  where its downloaded is normally a good place to start
[11:27] <coNP> rabbit: sure, add programs
[11:27] <rabbit> coNP:   "add applications"  rather
[11:27] <coNP> rabbit: I use mail-notification, because it knows other protocols, too
[11:27] <synmoo> gnomefreak: Then again, it didn't list it as being found either.. I'll try agin
[11:27] <bk> i thought it should be in a place like /usr/bin
[11:28] <mwe> rabbit: you need to enable universe to get gmail-notifier
[11:28] <rabbit> coNP: like what others?
[11:28] <cafuego> bk: No, do not extract tarballs to /usr/bin. What is it exactly?
[11:28] <rabbit> mwe: what's universe?  how do I enable it?
[11:28] <mwe> !tell rabbit about universe
[11:28] <gnomefreak> i use gmail-notifier cause i have 4 gmail accounts :(
[11:28] <mwe> rabbit: read what uboty just /msg'ed you
[11:28] <gnomefreak> bk,  where is the tar?
[11:28] <rabbit> mwe: yeah, thanks
[11:29] <bk> the tar is Xorg
[11:29] <bk> it's on a cd
[11:29] <rabbit> mwe: can't I just add gmail notifier using "add applications" ?
[11:29] <pashaw> Ganjhi,    type  sudo umount /media/hdc1   (then hdc6)   then   sudo mount /media/hdc1  (hdc6 also)
[11:29] <bk> i want to install it for gentoo
[11:29] <cafuego> bk: Why on earth did you fetch a tarball of that?
[11:29] <concept10> how do I disable the login sound?
[11:29] <cafuego> bk: This is #ubuntu.
[11:29] <Ganjhi> Okay
[11:29] <bk> i know
[11:29] <gnomefreak> #gentoo might help
[11:29] <bk> i know this is ubuntu
[11:29] <rabbit> coNP: what other protocols do you use mail notification for??
[11:29] <coNP> rabbit: IMAPS
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ummmmmm gentoo has X installed
[11:30] <bk> but i want to see if i can get gentoo up
[11:30] <luc> join #ubuntufr
[11:30] <cafuego> bk: Well, ask for help on #gentoo.
[11:30] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-fr
[11:30] <Seveas> bk, then go to #gentoo
[11:30] <bk> so far, i have a no gui system going
[11:30] <rabbit> mwe: can't I just add gmail notifier using "add applications" ?
[11:30] <rabbit> mwe: without the universe thing?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> rabbit, you need universe enabled
[11:30] <gnomefreak> rabbit,  its like 3 clicks :(
[11:30] <Sturgeon> What else could be wrong besides locale if i dont get correct latin characters in virtual consoles or terminals?
[11:31] <luc> hello, mery christmas to everybody!
[11:31] <bk> i don't understand this irc stuff.  is #gentoo the channel?  then what is the server's name?
[11:31] <mwe> rabbit: enable universe. then update. no not without universe since it resides in universe
[11:31] <Ganjhi> Okay, done and done pashaw
[11:31] <gnomefreak> bk,  type /join #gentoo
[11:31] <Sionide> bk irc.freenode.net is the server
[11:31] <mwe> rabbit: it's not hard.
[11:31] <rabbit> mwe: k
[11:31] <cafuego> and then /leave #ubuntu
[11:31] <pashaw> Ganjhi,   no errors   now try to open it  using the icons
[11:31] <navarone> bk> just type /join #gentoo   is channel on same server
[11:31] <luc> nobody speaks french here ?
[11:31] <Ganjhi> Thank you pashaw!
[11:31] <freddie> ice-t still cant fix it
[11:31] <Ganjhi> Works like a charm!
[11:31] <ElitePete> !fr
[11:31] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:31] <bk> where do i type that? in a terminal?
[11:31] <Sionide> luc, is there an #ubuntu-fr ?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> luc, try #ubuntu-fr
[11:31] <pashaw> Ganjhi,   when you reboot   it will work auto
[11:31] <mebaran151> luc, je peux un peu, mais ici, on ne parle jamais le francais
[11:31] <luc> thanks
[11:31] <pglee> is there a bug where the base install slows down to near zero?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> luc,  type /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:32] <navarone> bk...where you type normal text...but you need "/"
[11:32] <synmoo> Question: I've got the bluetooth mouse to connect briefly, but works very slowly then disconnects shortly after connecting. Any ideas?
[11:32] <mebaran151> synmoo, what type of USB mouse
[11:32] <mebaran151> if it's logitech
[11:32] <gnomefreak> i have usb mouse but its not bluetooth :(
[11:32] <mebaran151> it's really just a USB mouse that connects with the physical device by bluetooth
[11:32] <boa-chan> i got a logitech mx518 mouse
[11:33] <bk> what do you mean, 'where i type normal text'? in a terminal?
[11:33] <mebaran151> so it isn't a bluetooth problem
[11:33] <mebaran151> boa-chan, you have a base station?
[11:33] <cafuego> bk: on irc.
[11:33] <boa-chan> mebaran151, what?
[11:33] <Sturgeon> bk: talking to me?
[11:33] <synmoo> Mebaran: It's a microsoft Bluetooth mouse. I actually think my batteries may have died. Trying another set.
[11:33] <gnomefreak> !gentoo
[11:33] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Are you on ritalin?
[11:33] <mebaran151> boa chan, like a thing that plugs into USB
[11:33] <gnomefreak> bk,  wher eyou type to talk in here type /join #gentoo.
[11:34] <gnomefreak> no .
[11:34] <bk> irc provides a server list. i can edit it, so let me try that
[11:34] <mebaran151> bk, to get gui in gentoo
[11:34] <mebaran151> just emerge gnome
[11:34] <mebaran151> or something of the such
[11:34] <mebaran151> and you'll have a gnome desktop to look at
[11:35] <mebaran151> check your USE flags too and make sure nothing to wacky has gone on
[11:35] <Seveas> mebaran151, this is not #gentoo
[11:35] <bk> yeah, the problem is, my ethernet adaptor isn't working
[11:35] <bk> that's why i want to see what's going on in gui
[11:35] <gnomefreak> bk,  TYPE /join #gentoo
[11:35] <freddie> can someone help me with video codes on internet when 1 try too veiw them it closees firefox
[11:35] <cafuego> Seveas: thanks mate
[11:35] <flodine> help how do i start firestarter under a diffrent WM?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> type firestarter
[11:36] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone...
[11:36] <Seveas> ...in a terminal
[11:36] <gnomefreak> or look in menu for it
[11:36] <miguel_> I can not change the permissions on a FAT32 partition where I have my data wish is shared by linux and windows. I think I have tried almost everything. Does someone has an idea?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> ty Seveas  kind of assumed that was known
[11:36] <Seveas> gnomefreak, never assume too much :)
[11:36] <mwe> miguel_: you cannot change fat perms as fat don't have perms
[11:36] <gnomefreak> lol Seveas  im seeing that
[11:37] <Seveas> miguel_, vfat knows nothing about permissions, use mount options
[11:37] <coNP> miguel_: fat32 fs cannot handle permissions, so you can change them when you mount them
[11:37] <gnomefreak> did bk find out how to get to #gentoo yet?
[11:37] <flodine> i tryed starting in a terminal but say i dont have root privileges
[11:37] <gnomefreak> flodine, sudo firestarter
[11:37] <Seveas> at least he found his way out of here (I helped him a bit :))
[11:37] <gnomefreak> lol Seveas  ty
[11:37] <cafuego> gnomefreak: I hope not, he's got no business running that if he can't even figure out hwo to change channels on irc.
[11:37] <mebaran151> mwe, really?  So in FAT everything is 777?
[11:37] <freddie> can someone help me with video codes on internet when 1 try too veiw them it closes firefox
[11:37] <mwe> mebaran151: right
[11:38] <nalioth> mebaran151: there are no perms in fat*
[11:38] <mwe> mebaran151: but you can mount it read only if you like
[11:38] <gnomefreak> freddie, i gave you the codecs info already
[11:38] <ompaul> I thought #gentoo was second door on the left after you leave this channe
[11:38] <mebaran151> mwe, or mount it noexec
[11:38] <coNP> gnomefreak: bk seems to ask questions on #gentoo
[11:38] <flodine> gnomefreak if i close the terminal then firestarter closes to
[11:38] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell freddie about codecs
[11:38] <psusi> mebaran151: no, in fact there ARE no permissions... so linux has to fake it... you can tell it what fake values to use when you mount it
[11:38] <Seveas> ompaul, third
[11:38] <mwe> mebaran151: yeah
[11:38] <gnomefreak> flodine, yes
[11:38] <ompaul> DOH!
[11:38] <cafuego> ompaul: You can only reach it via the trap door in the corner, after you get decapitated here.
[11:38] <gnomefreak> flodine, anything you open with terminal will close when terminal is closed
[11:39] <ompaul> cafuego, ahhh
[11:39] <fraggsta> does anyone know how to boot the Ubuntu LiveCD on an old (blue&white) ibook? I'm stuck at the yaboot prompt
[11:39] <mwe> mebaran151: fmask=0111 under options iirc
[11:39] <Seveas> cafuego, and only if USE doesn't feature brain :)
[11:39] <freddie> gnomefreak it maks no sence to me
[11:39] <cafuego> fraggsta: Just hit return (in theory)
[11:39] <gnomefreak> flodine,  you can make a launcher for it on your menu bar so you dont have to use terminal
[11:39] <visik7> will mountlo be added on next ubuntu ?
[11:39] <synmoo> mebaran151: I've tried known good batteries, the bluetooh mouse works ok for a second, then disconnects for what would seem to be no reason
[11:39] <nalioth> fraggsta: i think you're doing all that can be done
[11:39] <cafuego> Seveas: (hence the decapitation)
[11:39] <rabbit> mwe:  should I enable source repositories too?
[11:39] <Seveas> hehe
[11:39] <fraggsta> cafuego: in theory yes, but in practice I get errors :(
[11:39] <miguel_> yes I have made the ubuntu install and the devices mount was made during this install. The permissions are rwxr-xr-x and even when I try chmod while I am root, I can't change the permissions to get write permissions on that partition
[11:39] <mebaran151> synmoo, but in the end
[11:39] <mebaran151> it's a USB device right
[11:39] <mebaran151> as in
[11:39] <mebaran151> you have a little thing that plugs in your USB port
[11:39] <mwe> rabbit: only if you need it. it wont hurt to have them in any cas thouhg
[11:40] <mebaran151> in that case you'll want to reset your mouse and your base station
[11:40] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell rabbit about repos
[11:40] <rabbit> mwe:  what about multiverse?
[11:40] <mebaran151> when is the open source flash going to be anygood
[11:40] <mwe> rabbit: that's the one you need
[11:40] <synmoo> mebaran151:No usb dongle. It's actually built in to the laptop. However, it may be internally connected via usb. I have no way of easily determining that.
[11:40] <server_newbie> coNP: I have reloaded averthing and now I get: * Starting web server (Apache2)...                                                                                apache2: could not open document config file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[11:40] <server_newbie>                                                                                [fail]
[11:40] <mwe> rabbit: no sorry
[11:40] <mwe> rabbit: universe
[11:40] <visik7> miguel_: is ntfs your FS ?
[11:40] <mebaran151> synmoo, if it is built in the laptop
[11:40] <gnomefreak> server_newbie, please dont paste in channle use pastebin
[11:40] <mebaran151> then you have the little problems
[11:40] <rabbit> mwe: what's multiverse for?
[11:40] <mwe> rabbit: but multiverse has lots of useful stuff too
[11:41] <mebaran151> because there's no translation layer
[11:41] <miguel_> No it is a FAT32
[11:41] <rabbit> mwe: should add it then?
[11:41] <fraggsta> cafuego: a mysterious "unknown or corrupt filesystem" error when it first boots, then it stops at the yaboot prompt, looks like it doesn't understand something inside this ibook
[11:41] <server_newbie> Sorry for the past
[11:41] <rabbit> mwe: doesn't hurt?
[11:41] <mebaran151> and bluetooh is harder to work with then
[11:41] <mwe> rabbit: if you like fancy software
[11:41] <visik7> miguel_: set in fstab noauto,users in the options and mount using your user
[11:41] <gnomefreak> mwe,  get him to go to source-o-matic he can get all of them :(
[11:41] <freddie> can someone help me with video codes on internet when 1 try too veiw them it closes firefox plz ill give u a cookie
[11:41] <cafuego> fraggsta: Did you burn the livecd yourself?
[11:41] <rabbit> mwe: does doing this just give me access to more programs to download?
[11:41] <fraggsta> cafuego: yes
[11:41] <mwe> rabbit: which is not oficially supported though
[11:41] <mwe> rabbit: right
[11:41] <gnomefreak> freddie, did you read the pm ubotu sent you?
[11:42] <mwe> rabbit: that's what it's all about
[11:42] <freddie> yes
[11:42] <rabbit> mwe: k, thanks
[11:42] <gnomefreak> freddie, did it give you any hints?
[11:42] <flodine> help is there a way to run firestarter without having a terminal always open
[11:42] <freddie> nope
[11:42] <gnomefreak> flodine, make a launcher for it
[11:42] <fraggsta> cafuego: I didn't have any trouble browsing this CD on the target iBook in MacOS 9, so I think that's not the problem
[11:43] <nalioth> flodine: alt-f2 > gksudo firestarter
[11:43] <mwe> gnomefreak: I don't know source-o-matic. sounds funky though
[11:43] <SmartUnix> where i can found smart link modem drives for gcc4 ?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> !sources
[11:43] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:43] <navarone> flodine...Firestarter should be on your Applications/SystemTools menu
[11:43] <rabbit> mwe:  the Update repositories aren't checked off
[11:43] <gnomefreak> navarone,  depending on what he is running
[11:43] <cafuego> fraggsta: Well, if the ramdisk image on the cd is busted you can still *see* the fioles, just not access them.
[11:44] <navarone> flodine...Firestarter should be on your Applications/SystemTools menu if you are using gnome...<s>
[11:44] <freddie> can someone help me with video codes on internet when 1 try too veiw them it closes firefox
[11:45] <gnomefreak> !video
[11:45] <ubotu> Not a clue, gnomefreak
[11:45] <fraggsta> cafuego: I don't really know how I can test that
[11:45] <elvirolo> hi all
[11:46] <HurricaneJ> i just downloaded gnome art and installed a theme i want to install a log in screen but i cant what else do i need to download?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> HurricaneJ, nothing
[11:46] <rabbit> mwe:  multiverse isn't free?
[11:46] <HurricaneJ> when i go to log ins the option to install is not there only download
[11:46] <gnomefreak> HurricaneJ,  if you install a login screen pic than open your login screen setup and install it
[11:46] <HurricaneJ> what folder do i have to put the log in?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> system>admin
[11:46] <elvirolo> i've got a machine (running breezy) which doesn't have access to the internet ... and I need the OOo.org french translation files ... but can't find them
[11:47] <HP_Administrator> could someone direct me to a place where you can find printable cd/dvd disc labels for ubuntu?
[11:47] <mwe> rabbit: free as in you don't have to pay anything at least
[11:47] <crooksey> www.ubuntu.org/download
[11:47] <freddie> can someone help me with video codes on internet when 1 try too veiw them it closes firefox
[11:47] <coNP> rabbit: could you install mail notification?
[11:47] <flodine> nalioth thxs for the info
[11:47] <EddieDaMan> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[11:48] <EddieDaMan> woosp, wrong box
[11:48] <HurricaneJ> and i downloaded airsport sniffer i think is the name--it installed but i dont see where i can open the program
[11:48] <elvirolo> so, can anyone help me?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> !someone
[11:48] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[11:48] <mwe> gnomefreak: that source-o-matic looks cool. it pointed me to new oo.org debs
[11:48] <gnomefreak> mwe,  yep it is thank Seveas  for it :)
[11:48] <HP_Administrator> i see the iso images but i dont see graphics for disc labels
[11:48] <gnomefreak> hes got everything but my java repo on there
[11:48] <rabbit> coNP: I just added the universe/ multiverse repositories
[11:49] <fraggsta> well all I can think of is to try a PPC debian net install disc :(
[11:49] <gnomefreak> mine in sence i use it
[11:49] <crooksey> i hate no root login
[11:49] <boa-chan> then use it
[11:49] <ompaul> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuArtwork
[11:49] <apokryphos> crooksey: why?
[11:49] <HP_Administrator> thank you very much :)
[11:49] <rabbit> coNP: does mail notficiation work like gmail notifier on windows?  it has a taskbar like icon??
[11:49] <crooksey> just sudo shit, pissses me off
[11:49] <mwe> gnomefreak: ok. Seveas made it?
[11:49] <ompaul> crooksey, language
[11:49] <gnomefreak> im pretty sure its his
[11:49] <synmoo> mebaran151: I am able to transfer files back and forth between my cellphone via bluetooth. I have also determined that the built in bluetooth is internally connected via usb
[11:49] <gnomefreak> atleast part of it is
[11:49] <crooksey> sorry
[11:49] <fraggsta> on the plus side, since my cable just got upgraded..4 Mb/sec = :D
[11:49] <freddie> can someone help me with video codes on internet when 1 try too veiw them it closes firefox
[11:50] <janoli> lsusb recognize my phaser printer as a samsung printer ... any help??
[11:50] <mwe> yeah. it pretty cool at least
[11:50] <coNP> rabbit: yes it appears on the notification area, if you have new mail
[11:50] <janoli> as a samsung something...
[11:50] <ompaul> crooksey, read the sudo page, if you don't like it you can do it yourself
[11:50] <mebaran151> synmoo, but you have to make it a bluetooth HID device
[11:50] <janoli> lsusb recognize my xerox phaser printer as a samsung xomething ... any help??
[11:50] <crooksey> ompual, ok off now
[11:50] <gnomefreak> someone mute him please? ive tried everything to give to him and he doesnt understand i guess and he doesnt understand what ubotu means by someone
[11:50] <freddie> swerw it im going back to windows
[11:50] <synmoo> mebaran151: I've used sudo hidd --search, had it find, and connect the mouse. It works briefly, then disconnects.
[11:51] <mebaran151> synmoo
[11:51] <mebaran151> I don't know much about hidd
[11:51] <janoli> lsusb recognize my xerox phaser printer as a samsung xomething ... any help??
[11:51] <mebaran151> but it seems like hidd --search only finds it
[11:51] <mebaran151> after that you actually have to keep the daemon in the background
[11:51] <synmoo> mebara151: kbluetoothd finds it, but doesn't know what to do with the profile.
[11:51] <gnomefreak> cant read cant use linux
[11:52] <greenpenguin13> source-o-matic doesnt support dapper :( :-p
[11:52] <gnomefreak> ho greenpenguin13  seeing as that dapper isnt being suppported
[11:53] <gnomefreak> no*
[11:53] <gnomefreak> not ho :(
[11:53] <gnomefreak> dapper isnt released
[11:53] <greenpenguin13> :-p i no, just shame :(
[11:53] <synmoo> mebaran151: I also see the connection in kbluetoothd's connection info while the mouse is connected.
[11:54] <poseidon_linux> hello all
[11:54] <pm> what's wrong with gtk1 apps fonts? how to enable hinting at least?
[11:54] <wza> ne1 a howto on LAMP setup on Ubuntu w PHP5?
[11:54] <HurricaneJ> whats a good mp3 player with ipod support for ubuntu? and how come i dont see airport sniffer anywhere for me to open it
[11:54] <grohk> I got a strange problem with my WiFi connection that I was wondering if someone might have a suggestion for...Seems like whenever I am connected *only* to this Belkin Wireless router at work I have problems uploading data.
[11:55] <addison> could someone help me with setting up a linksys wireless network usb device?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> greenpenguin13, if you have the main universe and muliverse added your in good shape since everything else is either already in dapper or the servers arnt open for dapper yet
[11:56] <HurricaneJ> does ubuntu have a boot screen? anyway i can remove all the data being loaded and hide behind a bootscreen or naything?\
[11:56] <ZeroIRC> Where is PHP located after I have installed it?
[11:57] <mwe> HurricaneJ: yeah
[11:57] <gnomefreak> HurricaneJ, yes ubuntu has boot screen its the one with black and everything writen is in brown
[11:57] <greenpenguin13> gnomefreak: all works just fine :)
[11:57] <gnomefreak> !php
[11:57] <ubotu> methinks lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:57] <ompaul> HurricaneJ, too many questions do this >>/msg ubotu ipod<< >>/msg ubotu mp3<< no idea about the airport stuff
[11:57] <wza> gnomefreak: thanks
[11:57] <mwe> HurricaneJ: it has a graphical boot screen called usplash
[11:57] <gnomefreak> greenpenguin13,  the java repo i have maybe out of date un supported or whatever it is but its got java1.5 :)
[11:58] <gnomefreak> wza, for what?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> wza,  and yw
[11:58] <greenpenguin13> gnomefreak: i dont tend to use java anyway so ive not noticed :)
[11:58] <ompaul> HurricaneJ, so many questions so little time - install the boot up manager "bum" to control the programs that start when your machine starts
[11:58] <unixscan> hello from Barcelona
[11:58] <gnomefreak> i just wish they would lighten up on java a bit more
[11:59] <addison> could someone help me installing a linksys usb wireless network adapter?
[11:59] <ompaul> gnomefreak, java is almost the most evil thing :) is that a bit lighter?
[11:59] <mwe> ligthen up on java. how do you mean?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> lol ompaul
[11:59] <HurricaneJ> i know im sorry im loving ubuntu and beofre i ask i search google but it i dont seem to get the answer to what im looking for
[11:59] <greenpenguin13> im amazed how slow it can be... but apart from that
[11:59] <boa-chan> lol
[11:59] <apokryphos> considering it's probably the best way to transfer
[11:59] <boa-chan> heres my ipod howto
[11:59] <boa-chan> buy a mac
[11:59] <greenpenguin13> and give it to me
[11:59] <apokryphos> boa-chan: why?
[11:59] <ompaul> apokryphos, so fix it :-)
[11:59] <apokryphos> amaroK is very good with them
[11:59] <boa-chan> its a joke
[12:00] <apokryphos> ompaul: I probably will
[12:00] <apokryphos> boa-chan: I know I know 8)
[12:00] <boa-chan> hehe