[00:35] <nitro2k01> Hello, I'm looking for a netinst kernel/initrd
[00:35] <nitro2k01> Or an ISO I can extract said items from
[00:43] <nitro2k01> Oh, it seems like it was on the alternate ISO
[00:43] <nitro2k01> I'll check if it works
[02:52] <Rapture2k4> hello all
[02:53] <Rapture2k4> is anyone available to help me setup samba? i'm failing at it miserably
[02:57] <FactTech> Rapture2k4 What's the issue you're having?
[03:38] <source> saluton
[03:42] <ball> mornin'
[03:50] <source> happy new year!
[03:51] <ball> yup
[03:54] <source> how can I get xfce 4.4.3 in xubuntu 8.04_
[03:54] <source> ?
[03:55] <ball> source: what version of Xfce came with it?
[03:57] <source> xfce 4.4.2
[03:59] <ball> what does "sudo apt-get update" get you?
[04:04] <source> that's no update to xfce 4.4.3
[04:04] <source> do you have xubuntu?
[04:11] <ball> Yes
[04:11] <ball> What does .3 have that .2 doesn't?
[04:17] <source> ball, http://www.xfce.org/documentation/changelogs/4.4.3
[04:19] <ball> I don't know then.  Presumably Xubuntu has a maintainer
[04:19] <ball> You could ask him or her.
[05:02] <vidd> i changed my cdrom out for a dvd burner...how do i make linux see it?
[05:02] <ball> vidd: isn't it automatic?
[05:03] <vidd> it would appear not
[05:03] <vidd> =\
[05:03] <ball> vidd: can the drive do DVD-RAM?
[05:04] <vidd> the new one can....the old could not
[05:04] <vidd> the old was cust cdrom
[05:04]  * ball nods
[05:04] <vidd> *just
[05:04] <ball> Di you have a DVD-RAM disc?
[05:04] <vidd> i have a dvd
[05:05] <ball> Ah, you want to play it?
[05:05] <vidd> but even old cd's that pl,ayed in the old drive wont mount in this one
[05:06] <ball> vidd: does it have power?
[05:07] <vidd> yes....it will load and run an install disk...but i dont want to re-install
[05:07] <ball> vidd: that's a good sign.
[05:08] <vidd> i assume i need to change fstab
[05:08] <ball> vidd: I doubt it
[05:08] <vidd> but i dont know alot about it....
[05:08] <ball> vidd: what kind of disc are you trying to use?
[05:08] <vidd> this is the line from fstab:
[05:08] <ball> DVD-Video?
[05:08] <vidd> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[05:09] <vidd> any disk...none will load from inside linux
[05:09] <ball> vidd: what mount command are you using?
[05:10] <vidd> b4 i changed the hardware, i didnt need to run any mount commands
[05:10] <vidd> the disk would be auto-detected by my file manager
[05:11] <ball> vidd: what kind of discs?
[05:11] <vidd> cd, cdrw would auto load on old hardware....nothing loads on new hardware
[05:12] <ball> you've tried DVD-ROMs?
[05:12] <vidd> right now i put the install disk that i know the drive can read because it booted
[05:13] <ball> Perhaps Linux just hates it.
[05:13] <vidd> the old hardware could not read dvd's
[05:13] <ball> Yes, you said that already
[05:13] <vidd> so i need to know how to tell linux "the hardware has changed"
[05:13] <ball> vidd: I doubt that
[05:14] <ball> Linux probably doesn't care.
[05:14] <ball> ...especially with something as standard as an optical drive
[05:14] <vidd> it obviously DOES care, otherwise the disk would have loaded
[05:15] <ball> vidd: okay, if that's what you want to believe.
[05:15]  * ball shrugs
[05:17] <vidd> i put the old drive back in and it worked
[06:18] <source> hi everybody!
[06:19] <source> happy new year
[06:19] <source> :P
[08:07] <jmtechy> evrytime i update my system on eeexubuntu it breaks my wifi
[09:05] <source> hi!
[09:09] <gabkdlly> source: hi
[09:15] <source> :P
[11:41] <|ntegra|> wow, quiet
[15:06] <_Aldur> Is nvidia drviver and xubuntu 8.10 still a problem?
[15:12] <vinnl> _Aldur, I believe if you use an old video card then the driver isn't available
[15:12] <vinnl> _Aldur, I suppose you could try popping in an 8.10 CD and see whether the driver is available through the Hardware Drivers application
[15:13] <vinnl> _Aldur, oh, btw, that's Nvidia's official drivers, open source drivers *are* available but they don't support e.g. compositing, so you won't be able to run Compiz with that
[15:15] <_Aldur> thanks  vinnl!
[15:15] <vinnl> yw :)
[15:44] <theking> Anybody know a good C/C++ IDE?
[15:47] <TheSheep> theking: vim
[15:48] <theking> I despise vim.
[15:48] <TheSheep> theking: then emacs
[15:49] <TheSheep> theking: also eclipse, netbeans, kdevelop, anjuta, etc.
[15:49] <theking> Oh shit, I forgot about eclipse
[15:49] <theking> lol
[15:50] <TheSheep> theking: please don't swear
[15:50] <theking> k.
[15:54] <arualavi> geany
[18:40] <Wasp> Hey, how do I start xmms after having installed it? i've rebooted after installing it and it does not show up under applications.  running just xmms2 in terminal gives me a list of commands to use, none of which seem to be the one i am looking for.  I want the interface to show up
[18:51] <Seomah> hi all - I'm trying to set up a remote desktop between xubuntu and winXP - can someone help me?
[18:55] <Odd-rationale> Seomah: winxp server, and xubuntu client?
[18:55] <Odd-rationale> or other way?
[18:57] <Seomah> i want it both ways, but first winxp master, xubuntu client
[19:23] <source> saluton
[20:18] <war1> how install c++ on ubntu
[20:49] <Wasp> hey, in what folder are the desktop icon images for xfce4 located?
[21:03] <mattyb243> anyone around to answer a question?
[21:08] <aaroninfidel> Hi, I accidentally installed compiz and now, my WM is all messed up, how can I disable compiz using terminal?
[21:08] <random__> mattyb243, just ask the question.  nobody will commit to it until they read it and see what you want
[21:08] <random__> as who knows if we know how to fix your problem :D
[21:11] <war1> hello
[21:12] <mattyb243> ok im trying to get 7.10 on my ps3, used the same discs a few days ago and they worked perfectly. i uninstalled to get a fresh install for wireless, and now the install gets to the partion loader then freezes
[21:12] <mattyb243> the part that confuses me is the discs worked fine just days ago
[21:20] <mattyb243> any newer builds i should try using or?
[21:27] <mattyb243> is 8.10 ps3 compatible?
[21:30] <war1> how to use Finger tool
[21:35] <Aison> hello
[21:35] <Aison> how much space will it take to install xubuntu?
[21:38] <mattyb243> on what platform?
[21:38] <mattyb243> mine took about 600MB on my ps3
[21:39] <mattyb243> should be the same across platforms
[21:40] <Aison> old p3
[21:40] <Aison> Would like to install it to a CF Card, if that's possible
[21:41] <mattyb243> as to that im not sure, i did it with the parition method and am using an external HDD for storage
[21:43] <mattyb243> i cant even get mine to install again it keeps freezing on me
[21:53] <mattyb243> given up on the xubuntu disc its giving me to much trouble, looks like ill just install the xubuntu desktop on 710 gutsy gibbon ubuntu
[22:11] <charlie-tca> mattyb243: did you try asking in #ubuntu-ps3
[22:39] <Overshee> hey,  anybody know why i dont have a "usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml"
[22:39] <Overshee> and/or where I can get one?
[22:45] <crimsun> sudo apt-get --reinstall install shared-mime-info:
[22:46] <crimsun> s/:$//
[22:47] <Overshee> ty
[23:09] <grandmaneedshelp> Hi! I am in the proces of setting up xubuntu for my eighty year old grandmother... I need to simplify the system as much as possible, a long with locking it down settings wise
[23:10] <grandmaneedshelp> I am used to gnome, not xfce4, is there a way to lock the panels?
[23:13] <grandmaneedshelp> my local time is 12 past midnight, so perhaps I should just try again tomorrow?
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> !info sabayon
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> grandmaneedshelp: take a look at sabayon ^
[23:19] <Odd-rationale> it is for gnome..
[23:20] <grandmaneedshelp> why? sabayon is like gentoo minus the constant compiling afaik?
[23:20] <grandmaneedshelp> oh it's an application?
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> no... not sabayon the distro... sabayon the gnome User profiles maintainance
[23:20] <Odd-rationale> yeah...
[23:21] <Odd-rationale> http://projects.gnome.org/sabayon/
[23:21] <grandmaneedshelp> I knew both ubuntu and xubuntu have gtk in common, but didn't think the same tools could get used. will have a look
[23:22] <grandmaneedshelp> but can it handle xfce settings?
[23:24] <grandmaneedshelp> I'm installing it... I just need to make xubuntu as user friendly as possible, after all... we're dealing with an 80 yr old gal here
[23:30] <grandmaneedshelp> Odd-rationale: should I just mark all things mandatory?
[23:32] <grandmaneedshelp> Odd-rationale: oh wait, I found a cool settings manager :) will work my way through it.. thx for all the help


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[00:48] <lucas-arg> hey all
[00:48] <lucas-arg> any one know how to make gnome use colorspace ycbcr444???
[11:30] <th___72> hi


[06:58] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:31] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:31] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[08:39] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:41] <davmor2> MooDoo: I'm thinking I must be after watch hudson hawk now I got swinging on a star stuck in my head
[08:44] <Myrtti> ooh, it's an OpenSourcerer
[08:46] <selinuxium> Hi all  o/
[08:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[08:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> Needed to jump on #reprapro to ask a question ;-)
[08:47] <selinuxium> 'lo TheOpenSourcerer.
[08:47] <TheOpenSourcerer> Morning all.
[08:48] <davmor2> TheOpenSourcerer: good morning
[08:48] <TheOpenSourcerer> I spent most of yesterday helping my son to build this: https://reprappro.com/documentation/fisher-beta/
[08:49] <MooDoo> davmor2: great film
[08:52] <davmor2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8KvM3vZo0w
[09:06] <popey> TheOpenSourcerer: oh, it arrived?
[09:06] <popey> I thought you'd ordered it, didn't realise you got it already
[09:06] <TheOpenSourcerer> Nah - Grandad bought it for him :-)
[09:06] <popey> ooh, it's a delta printer!
[09:06] <popey> nice
[09:07] <TheOpenSourcerer> I was very impressed with the build
[09:07] <TheOpenSourcerer> so far.
[09:07] <popey> how far did you get?
[09:07] <TheOpenSourcerer> Instructions were great, all the bits were nicely finished.
[09:07] <TheOpenSourcerer> We got to this stage: https://reprappro.com/documentation/fisher-beta/connecting-rods/
[09:07] <zmoylan-pi> that's a really elegant looking 3d printeer...
[09:08] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Miniature Golf Day! 😃
[09:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> We filmed the assembly using a frameapp so we have a 3minute video of about 5 hours assembly :-) James will be putting this on his blog shortly I think :-)
[09:09] <popey> i notice there's some missing photos on the wiki, might be useful to upload yours if they're good
[09:09] <popey> great way to contribute back before he's even finished his build
[09:13] <TheOpenSourcerer> I really enjoyed the build process. It's a very clever design and well thought out.
[09:22] <Myrtti> we should be getting a 3D printer soonish too. I've no idea what kind
[09:22] <Myrtti> I know we're going to have a PeachyPrinter too but this one that's supposedly (not really) been shipped is a normal filament kind. That's all I know
[09:24] <zmoylan-pi> as a d&d gamer we could use one to make a fair few models or critturs for our table top maps  generic ones to reduce the amount of monsters carried
[09:25] <Myrtti> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/m3d/the-micro-the-first-truly-consumer-3d-printer/description apparently
[09:26] <popey> that is cute looking
[09:26] <Myrtti> looking at it now, I'm starting to wonder if it will be able to print me a new case for my knitting machine that would accommodate the Arduino
[09:26] <zmoylan-pi> wouldn't the plastic be too soft?
[09:27] <Myrtti> oh it's not for storing the knitting machine
[09:27] <zmoylan-pi> ah, my bad
[09:27] <Myrtti> it's to replace an ABS cover that I've had to take off to take the old controls off and to connect the Arduino instead
[10:13] <zmoylan-pi> right, coffee and biccie...
[10:28] <NET||abuse> how do i see what commands a  launcher icon is using?
[10:28] <NET||abuse> there's no easy way to inspect the "shortcut" of a launcher
[10:28] <foobarry> have you seen this vid about the clock? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEmSwJTqpgY&app=desktop
[10:28] <foobarry> "if you think this is an invention , you've been fooled"
[10:28] <NET||abuse> eg.. i just upped from 14.10 to 15.04 yesterday on this laptop, and now spotify isn't launching, i get no error when i click on the icon, but to figure out what command it's running it's non-obvious how to debug the issue,
[10:28] <MooDoo> oh i read about that this morning...sigh
[10:28] <foobarry> "the clock is a commercial clock removed from its casing"
[10:30] <zmoylan-pi> o/ my first gizmos were broken things that i remounted on lego chassis to make operational again
[10:34] <shauno> seen a few of those vids now.  always priceless seeing the look of achievement on a grown adult's face when he manages to one-up a 14yo nerd.
[10:36] <popey> NET||abuse: look in /usr/share/applications for the spotify desktop file
[10:39] <NET||abuse> ah yeh, i know where the apps are as someone who's experienced with ubuntu, but i was just wondering was it the only way,
[10:39] <NET||abuse> it's not a very accessible interface is unity.
[10:41] <NET||abuse> even if it's neatly tucked away somewhere to not overload the user interface, there still should be a route to seeing what's behind a launcher icon. right click->properties type of thing, show me what command it's running, or let me modify the command it's running, or add a show in folder option, some way to show what's behind that icon.
[10:41] <NET||abuse> otherwise you just have to read up on the "conventions of unity" which if my programming days tought me anything, convention over configuration isn't always best
[10:42] <popey> indeed
[10:42] <NET||abuse> anyway, just ranting
[10:42] <popey> it was one of the first bugs I filed on unity
[10:42] <NET||abuse> :)
[10:43] <NET||abuse> i've just switched back from arch/gnome to ubuntu after 3 months, and gotta say, there's alot to like on the gnome side
[10:43] <NET||abuse> but in'm only 24 hours into it.. give it 2 weeks and i'll see how i feel.
[10:46] <Myrtti> NET||abuse: usually it's a foobar.desktop file
[10:46] <Myrtti> in /usr/share/applications/
[10:46] <Myrtti> oh, too late
[10:46] <Myrtti> popey was hiding behind quits and joins
[10:46] <NET||abuse> Myrtti: oh i know where they are, /usr/share/applications;/$HOME/.local/application
[10:46] <NET||abuse> s
[10:47] <Myrtti> I blame my lack of new glasses
[10:47] <NET||abuse> I was really just raising frustration with the opaqueness unity implements
[10:48] <NET||abuse> and that's what grinds my gears..
[10:48] <NET||abuse> back to you Tom!
[11:18] <popey> NET||abuse: bug 705007
[11:44] <NET||abuse> ahh, cheers popey
[15:58] <ujjain> I moved in the UK. I sent my new address to the electoral roll. Do I still have to inform both councils of an address chagne?
[16:00] <leecowdrey_> no - just the new council
[16:00] <leecowdrey_> they should use official form which updates the electoral roll
[17:09] <diddledan_> m00
[17:43] <davmor2> diddledan: you can't blag me there are eyes in that moo
[18:35] <diddledan_> davmor2: the eyes have it
[18:36]  * diddledan_ got coffee \o/
[18:41] <davmor2> diddledan_: just showing off now aren't you ;)
[18:42] <diddledan_> teehee
[19:23] <diddledan_> has anyone watched the fairly recent series 12 monkeys?
[19:23] <diddledan_> I've just started it - intriguing
[19:24] <diddledan_> I saw the film years ago and have forgotten pretty much everything about it
[20:43] <diddledan> Xack, just spotted your /msg (it was hidden where I wasn't looking) not sure how long ago you sent it, but just wanted to let you know it wasn't ignored, just missed.
[20:44] <Xack> diddledan: alright :)
[20:59] <popey>  .38
[21:40] <czajkowski> popey: ello
[21:51] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[21:51] <popey> yo
[22:11] <diddledan> popey: .38 gun calibre?
[22:14] <leecowdrey_> moles need .44
[22:17] <daftykins> ah a clients secretary's husband was telling me a great story of when Guernsey didn't have BBC2 or colour broadcasts yet, back in the 70s
[22:18] <daftykins> he said his brother, who was quite the electronics whizz, used to climb out on their roof to adjust a custom rigged antenna to let them watch films on BBC2 XD
[22:22] <diddledan> moles?
[22:24] <zmoylan-pi> just how dangerous is a cornered mole??
[22:30] <zmoylan-pi> do you need to nuke from orbit to be sure? :-)
[22:30] <daftykins> always.
[22:32]  * zmoylan-pi thanks the gods that moles drown in ireland...
[22:48] <daftykins> out of interest can you folks visit http://www.tigerdirect.com/ ? it's been totally blocked for months from Guernsey IPs
[23:05] <diddledan> daftykins, works here
[23:05] <daftykins> weird, i wonder why we're blocked
[23:12] <shauno> works here
[23:13] <shauno> (</aol>, but I am in a different country)
[23:18] <daftykins> :)
[23:19] <daftykins> oh i should try my VPN
[23:25] <daftykins> wow - https://www.dropbox.com/s/dq6jmjlcgwt7xhy/Screenshot_2015-09-22-00-20-57.png?dl=0
[23:25] <daftykins> can't even stop this from coming up after a browser cache clear
[23:27] <zmoylan-pi> tigerdirect works here in ireland on vodafone isp
[23:28] <daftykins> ty sir, i've email'd and asked what they have against rockdwellers :)
[23:29] <zmoylan-pi> maybe they sell clock parts... :-P
[23:29] <daftykins> XD
[23:31]  * zmoylan-pi gives daftykins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casio_F-91W#Claimed_use_in_terrorism as a condolence... :-P
[23:31] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: i best show it to my teacher right away!
[23:34] <zmoylan-pi> if you ping it what comes back?
[23:34] <daftykins> the TD domain?
[23:34] <zmoylan-pi> yeah
[23:34] <daftykins> well it's gotta be chatting to give me the web server error + the above
[23:34] <zmoylan-pi> 64 bytes from a23-200-102-69.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1 ttl=59 time=19.4 ms
[23:35] <zmoylan-pi> or is it been intercepted by isp...
[23:35] <daftykins> ooh i don't get an akamai CDN at all no
[23:35] <daftykins> <IP_ADDRESS> replies
[23:35] <zmoylan-pi> try using different dns?
[23:36] <daftykins> that should've been true of the phone test
[23:37] <daftykins> oh my laptop is back on my ISP DNS, hrmmz
[23:37] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi, that's crazay
[23:37] <zmoylan-pi> bad laptop ::smacks with rolled up newspaper:: bad!
[23:37] <diddledan> I used to own one of those watches
[23:37] <zmoylan-pi> security theatre...
[23:38] <diddledan> I guess I'm a bad actor
[23:38] <zmoylan-pi> my last casio watch had a game
[23:38] <daftykins> ah no the above IP was .co.uk
[23:38] <daftykins> <IP_ADDRESS> i get for .com
[23:39] <zmoylan-pi> .co.uk gets 64 bytes from webfwd.daily.co.uk (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=7 ttl=51 time=37.3 ms
[23:40] <diddledan> I really like the "insane" girl in 12 monkeys
[23:40] <diddledan> she's fun
[23:41] <daftykins> now i get <IP_ADDRESS> for .com
[23:43] <shauno> curious; that invalid request page.  is the email us link there, theirs?
[23:43] <daftykins><EMAIL_ADDRESS>it was


[00:02] <Laney> VERSION:=${shell cat debian/changelog | head -1 | sed -e's/^maradns (//' | sed -e's/-[[:digit:]]\+) \w\+; .*//' }
[00:03] <Laney> the archive is a source of wonder
[00:03] <Laney> (resulted in make -f build/Makefile.linux all COMPILED=\""Linux system at Tue Jan 10 00:01:39 GMT 2012"\" VERSION=\"2.0.04-1ubuntu1) precise; urgency=low\"
[00:03] <Laney> /bin/sh: 1: Syntax error: ")" unexpected
[00:03] <Laney> )
[00:06] <Resistance> Laney:  who would process the sync request, if you know?
[00:07] <Laney> Resistance: a sponsor (did you subscribe ubuntu-sponsors?)
[00:08] <Resistance> Laney:  negative, point me to the links?
[00:08]  * Resistance is having issues with searching atm
[00:08] <Resistance> (FFox exploding)
[00:08] <Laney> SyncRequestProcess says
[00:08] <Laney> "To request a sync, file a bug in Launchpad with the above information (the requestsync tool discussed below makes this simple). Once the bug is complete and correct, if you are not an Ubuntu developer, subscribe (NOT assign) ubuntu-sponsors"
[00:09] <Resistance> ah
[00:09] <Resistance> done (i think)
[00:14] <Resistance> Laney:  which "email address" does it display when it refers to bug #523093?
[00:14] <Resistance> in that wiki for SyncRequestProcess (note my emails are public anyways)
[00:16] <Resistance> (i think)
[00:17] <Laney> your contact address
[00:17] <Resistance> i see...
[00:17] <Laney> the one that launchpad mails you on
[00:17] <Resistance> i take it i cant have my ubuntu.com email show up?
[00:17] <Laney> no you can't have that as your primary email sadly
[00:17] <Resistance> (since it autoforwards to the primary LP address, according to pleia2)
[00:17] <Resistance> thought not
[00:17]  * Resistance wishes you could :P
[03:59] <Resistance> anyone able to help me create a patch for a package?
[04:02] <Resistance> anyone?
[04:10] <kgoetz> hi all. are packages for this release being synced from unstable or testing? we just uploaded freeciv into debian and i'm wondering if i'll have to file a sync request
[04:12] <Resistance> if by "this release" you mean Precise
[04:12] <Resistance> its being synced from sid afaik
[04:12] <Resistance> (note i'm not a MOTU, but from what i've seen everything's coming from sid)
[04:13] <kgoetz> precise, yep :)
[04:13] <kgoetz> hopefully freeciv will scrape in then, thansk :)
[04:14] <Resistance> we hope :P
[04:14] <Resistance> s/we/you/
[04:15] <kgoetz> hehe
[04:34] <Resistance> if there's a package i uploaded a patch for, and the bug is triaged, should I change the status from "Triaged", or just leave it?
[04:46] <ScottK> kgoetz: Autosync was from Testing, but it's done for this cycle anyway, so a sync request will be needed.
[04:47] <kgoetz> ScottK: thanks. i'll have a dig around on the wiki and work out what needs to be done :)
[05:16] <Resistance> ScottK:  who checks the sync requests, and how often do those requests actually get checked/handled?
[05:17] <Resistance> ScottK:  i ask because the sync i asked to be done for ZNC from Debian Sid includes a vulnerability fix
[05:19] <Resistance> (if you're around)
[05:46] <ScottK> Resistance: You should subscribe the sync bug to ubuntu-sponsors and it'll get reviewed as part of the sponsorship queue.
[05:47] <Resistance> i did that
[05:47] <Resistance> ohhhhhhhhh
[05:47] <Resistance> wait a sec....
[05:47] <Resistance> would that explain why a soyuz icon shows up next to the Ubuntu project in my LP page?
[05:47]  * Resistance has been trying to figure out why that's there, because it wasnt there yesterday
[05:48] <ScottK> Dunno.  Link please?
[05:48] <Resistance> https://launchpad.net/~trekcaptainusa-tw
[05:49] <Resistance> see also: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/184233
[05:49] <Resistance> (me trying to figure out why the Ubuntu project has a soyuz icon next to it on his LP page)
[05:49] <ScottK> It's probably 2012-01-04 	PPA package upload accepted
[05:50] <Resistance> it *shouldnt*
[05:50] <Resistance> because that's within my own PPA
[05:50] <ScottK> Why not, I think it's not really a soyuz icon, but a uploaded stuff icon.
[05:50] <ScottK> I agree.  PPA shouldn't count for that.
[05:50]  * Resistance has never had any PPA uploads ever trigger a soyuz icon
[05:50] <ScottK> Dunno.
[05:50] <Resistance> the #launchpad people are stumped too
[05:50] <Resistance> hence the question
[05:51] <ScottK> Sync request wouldn't do it until it was processed and the sync done.
[05:51] <Resistance> i highly doubt that my submitting patches would do that...?
[05:51] <Resistance> indeed...
[05:51] <Resistance> which is why i'm thoroughly confuzled :/
[05:51] <ScottK> Once they are uploaded, it might.
[05:51] <Resistance> (tis also late, so i should be headed to sleep anyways)
[05:51] <ScottK> Sorry.  I'm not much help.
[05:51] <Resistance> no problem :P
[06:32] <siretart> dupondje: can you confirm that restarting lxdm is no longer necessary / work with the patch?
[13:53] <EvilResistance> any MOTU able to confirm something?
[13:53] <EvilResistance> it was my understanding 10.04 would EOL with 10.10... but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases#Stable seems to suggest otherwise
[13:54] <EvilResistance> nevermind
[13:54]  * EvilResistance got the answer and misread something :P
[13:54] <Rhonda> Why do you expect an EOL half a year later?
[13:54] <Tm_T> EvilResistance: /;
[13:54] <Tm_T> (; even
[13:54] <EvilResistance> Rhonda:  misread something :P
[13:54]  * EvilResistance facedesks
[13:54] <EvilResistance> this is why i drink tons of coffee...
[13:54] <EvilResistance> keeps me alert >.>
[13:55] <Tm_T> EvilResistance: save the desk (and face)
[13:55] <EvilResistance> speaking of coffee, i think mine's finished brewing
[13:58] <EvilResistance> Tm_T:  if i ever make a fail statement like the one i just did, tell me to go get more coffee :P
[13:59] <EvilResistance> because something is wrong with me if i'm making fail statements like that
[13:59] <Tm_T> EvilResistance: nah, that was a tiny error that did no harm
[13:59] <EvilResistance> Tm_T:  it messed with my brain :P  and considering i only got 5 hours of sleep, i think coffee is a prerequisite to me being able to focus :P
[14:02] <Tm_T> my experience says you cannot replace sleep in the long run (:
[14:03] <micahg> while (sleep == NEEDED) { drink_caffeine(); }
[14:04] <EvilResistance> while (sleep == NEEDED && daysAwake <= 3) { drink_caffeine(); }
[14:04] <EvilResistance> if (daysAwake >=3) { pass_out(); }
[14:05] <EvilResistance> s/>=/>/
[14:06] <EvilResistance> i once had so much caffeine in a multiple-day sequence i was up for 6 straight days... the 7th day i passed out :P
[14:08] <jakewins_> Hey all! I'm putting together my first debian package (for the neo4j.org project) and have two cosmetic questions, hoping someone has the time to help out..
[14:08] <EvilResistance> jakewins_:  what generally do ya need?
[14:08]  * EvilResistance isnt an MOTU, but does packaging here and there
[14:09] <jakewins_> One, when I install my .deb via the Ubuntu software center, after install, the "install" button remains available, is that expected? (or should it turn into "uninstall" or "reinstall" or something?)
[14:09] <EvilResistance> *sips his coffee*  ahh... Tm_T give me 20 minutes, i'll be as awake as if i had slept 13 hours :P
[14:10] <jakewins_> Two, the ubuntu software center doesn't pick up that the package is open source, it shows the license as "unknown"
[14:10] <EvilResistance> jakewins_:  in my test installations of my binaries, i've seen that button thing as normal...  although Synaptic shows it as installed (yes, i still use synaptic)
[14:11] <EvilResistance> and i also have had that same issue as you've stated wtih LICENSE stuff
[14:11] <jakewins_> EvilResistance: Thanks!
[14:11] <EvilResistance> this is why i put my packages into my PPAs (or my archive for packages)
[14:11] <jakewins_> Does putting them in a PPA solve it?
[14:12] <EvilResistance> well considering I use synaptic instead of software center, idrk.  but the debian/copyright file contains all the licensing details, and all my stuff is released either under the GPL or the LGPL (depending on what the project uses)... (more often than not, I use the GPL)
[14:13] <EvilResistance> *checks something*
[14:14] <EvilResistance> read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#Determining_software_item_information
[14:15] <EvilResistance> The license label for an item should be: “Open source”, if it is in Main or Universe; “Proprietary”, if it is in Restricted or archive.canonical.com; “Unknown”, if it is anywhere else (including Multiverse and standalone packages).
[14:15] <EvilResistance> since its a standalone, it shows up as "Unknown"
[14:15] <nabil> hi everyone
[14:15] <EvilResistance> jakewins_:  ^  (see above)
[14:16] <jakewins_> Ah, and the license label is set in PPA?
[14:16] <EvilResistance> jakewins_:  fwiw, i'd ignore what the "license" field of software center says, and focus on what you have in the debian/copyright file... if its GPL or LGPL or one of the open-source licenses i think you're fine
[14:16] <jakewins_> EvilResistance: Yeah, feel the same way
[14:16] <jakewins_> Thanks for your help!
[14:17] <EvilResistance> jakewins_: i havent had any *issues* with PPA things, but software center is just interfaces with apt... when i install things via PPAs, its usually via CLI (apt-get, aptitude, etc.)
[14:17] <EvilResistance> or god forbid synaptic :P
[14:17] <nabil> I think you must hear that really often, but I was wondering which is the easier way to start contributng for Ubuntu... I am kinda lost on the project...
[14:17] <jakewins_> lol
[14:18] <jakewins_> nabil: take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[14:18] <nabil> I can add that I am a junior engineer in computer sciences, kinda good at C, but does not have a good grasp on system dev
[14:18] <EvilResistance> nabil:  there's multiple ways to contribute :)  depending on what you mean by contribute.  I contributed via support channels, #ubuntu, #ubuntu-server, ubuntuforums.org, etc.  if you want ot actually contribute to the coding and dev, start dealing with bugs and things
[14:18] <EvilResistance> there's bitesize bugs too
[14:18] <EvilResistance> (good for people starting out)
[14:19] <jakewins_> One more question: If I want to move towards making this package available in the public repos, I'm assuming setting it up in a personal PPA is initial step
[14:19] <EvilResistance> jakewins_:  define "available in the public repos"
[14:19] <EvilResistance> you mean like in the repos from Ubuntu?
[14:19] <EvilResistance> jakewins_:  i'd consider submitting your package to Debian for inclusion...
[14:19] <jakewins_> Preferrably general debian repos
[14:19] <jakewins_> Yeah
[14:19] <nabil> ok EvilResistance, but even bugs looks hard for me
[14:19] <nabil> very freakin specific
[14:19] <EvilResistance> jakewins_:  because submitting a package to Debian is far easier than submitting directly to Ubuntu
[14:19] <jakewins_> Makes sense
[14:20] <nabil> I am now changing nick because nabil is already reserved
[14:20] <jakewins_> So debian package maintainers is the people to talk to then I assume..
[14:20] <EvilResistance> jakewins_:  also, when its included in Debian sid, it'll be included later in Ubuntu (probably whatever q-series is)
[14:21] <EvilResistance> or perhaps even precise, but you have to go through the debian side
[14:21] <EvilResistance> jakewins_:  #debian-mentors @ irc.oftc.net is the home of their packaging helpers
[14:22] <EvilResistance> i've gotten more than enough help there building packages for both Debian and Ubuntu (although I come here to #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-packaging for Ubuntu-specific help)
[14:22] <EvilResistance> Ramz00z:  yeah, i found that to be the case as well, its why most of my launchpad karma comes from specification tracking for projects rather than bug fixing :P
[14:22] <jakewins_> EvilResistance: Great, thanks so much for your help!
[14:23] <EvilResistance> jakewins_:  yep, feel free to stop by and poke the MOTUs if you need more help.
[14:23] <EvilResistance> :)
[14:26] <EvilResistance> Ramz00z:  fwiw, i didnt start out dealing with bugs until i reported a few
[14:27] <EvilResistance> Ramz00z:  after that, i just kept helping out everywhere... in the IRC channels, on ubuntuforums.org, on askubuntu...
[14:27] <EvilResistance> didnt actually move into the technical aspects including packaging until after I had at least 6 months of command line experience working with server administration
[14:28] <EvilResistance> only branched out into bug fixing and patching yesterday :P
[14:28] <Ramz00z> yeah that's what I was thinking
[14:28] <EvilResistance> (otherwise, i report bugs like the back of my hand)
[14:28] <Ramz00z> isn't being "expert" in Ubuntu far more important than being good at prog ?
[14:28] <Ramz00z> because I am the latter but REALLY not the first...
[14:29] <Ramz00z> Ubuntu is just ocean wide... imoo
[14:30] <EvilResistance> being good at programming helps, but i'm by no means an expert
[14:30] <Ramz00z> I use it to dev but I don't really go deep... I must know like 20 command lines top
[14:30] <EvilResistance> i dont really need to know more than basic command line functions
[14:30] <Ramz00z> I guess only core dev are experts ^^
[14:30] <EvilResistance> and the functions of debuild, dpkg, aptitude, quilt (for patching packages), dget, backportpackage...
[14:31] <Ramz00z> and even them may not know every side of the project
[14:31] <EvilResistance> i may know a bunch about how Ubuntu works, and i may know some tricks to making things happen...
[14:31] <EvilResistance> but i dont know anything
[14:31] <EvilResistance> in comparison to me, the MOTUs are technically packaging gods
[14:31] <EvilResistance> and probably some of the most knowledgeable Ubuntu experts I know
[14:32] <Ramz00z> Becoming a MOTU is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy down the road for me ^^
[14:32] <EvilResistance> (save Mark Shuttleworth, who probably knows everything there is to know, or where to get support for everything)
[14:32] <Ramz00z> I've been thinking about developping for Ubuntu for years now
[14:33] <Ramz00z> never found a project that I could effectively help
[14:33] <EvilResistance> well i've recently taken it upon myself to work directly with a few projects that have PPAs but no skilled packagers
[14:33] <EvilResistance> (thereby ending up with incomplete packages and they have no idea why)
[14:33] <EvilResistance> granted, i have a good number of PPAs of my own
[14:34] <Ramz00z> I'm about to get slapped I guess, but what's PPA ? :$
[14:34] <EvilResistance> (and most recently, i've gotten involved with NGINX and ZNC, but not via Launchpad
[14:34] <EvilResistance> !ppa
[14:34] <EvilResistance> Ramz00z:  ^
[14:35] <Ramz00z> thanks
[14:35] <Ramz00z> Didn't know they had a word to say "third party packages" ^^
[14:35] <EvilResistance> heh
[14:35] <EvilResistance> well the nginx project has its own PPA
[14:35] <EvilResistance> for up-to-date stables
[14:35]  * EvilResistance has helped once or twice with them
[14:36] <EvilResistance> been focusing on ZNC lately (backporting, and updating it)
[14:36] <EvilResistance> oh snap, its almost class time...
[14:36] <EvilResistance> *runs*
[14:37] <EvilResistance> (I'm a University student, but I still find time to contribute to ubuntu xD)
[14:39] <EvilResistance> oh dear, i misread the time... class doesnt start for an hour :p
[14:41] <Ramz00z> Evil I think you frightened every student out there ^^
[14:42] <EvilResistance> Ramz00z:  nah, i think its one of the freenode servers exploding
[14:42] <EvilResistance> i've seen this before :P
[14:43] <Ramz00z> nice exploding then !
[14:45] <Ramz00z> launchpad is not dedicated to Ubuntu, isn't it ?
[14:45] <Ramz00z> because I see an Android Project there... oO
[14:46] <tumbleweed> launchpad is run by canonical, primarily for Ubuntu, but there are many other projects on it too
[14:46] <Ramz00z> ok Ubuntu is just one of the projects
[14:46] <EvilResistance> and this is how i know it was an explodificated server that caused that mass death:  -RichiH/Wallops- Hi all. As you probably noticed, one of our servers just had a hiccup. It seems to be stable now, but we are investigating nonetheless.
[14:47] <EvilResistance> what tumbleweed said :P
[14:52] <Ramz00z> yeah they can investigate... Cause it won't disappear !
[14:52] <Ramz00z> always hated networking...
[16:55] <toabctl> what should i do to get a package from debian sid into precise (the package is currently not in precise, so it's a new package). i already filled a sync request with requestsync. is this enough?
[16:56] <Laney> yes
[16:56] <Laney> just watch your mail for followups from sponsors
[17:02] <toabctl> ok. thx
[17:38] <jtaylor> micahg: didn't you want to look at the numpy and svn merge requests?
[17:39] <micahg> jtaylor: yes, sorry. did I say I'd look at svn  also?
[17:41] <jtaylor> I don't think so, but it would be appreciated :)
[18:06] <philsf> hi, in natty I used dh-make-perl + dpkg-buildpackage to package a perl app I'm developing, but now in oneiric it's not working. dpkg-buildpackage says it can  parse the dependencies. Can anyone hint me on what's wrong and how can I fix this?  Paste at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/799639/
[18:07] <jtaylor> philsf: can you paste debian/control please
[18:11] <philsf> jtaylor, http://paste.ubuntu.com/799645/
[18:14] <jtaylor> philsf: remove the perl/ and science/ before all dependencies
[18:14] <philsf> jtaylor, is this a bug in recent dh-make-perl versions?
[18:15] <jtaylor> no idea, it may be a feature to get people to check the dependencies
[18:17] <philsf> lol
[18:17] <philsf> actually, this debian/control is from the lucid version. the oneiric d-m-p version doesn't work (see first paste). any ideas what it means?
[18:24] <jtaylor> hm you could try clearing your cache
[18:26] <jtaylor> ~/.cpan
[18:29] <philsf> I tried this, already
[18:30] <philsf> oh wait. I tried in another oneiric box. in this one I don't have a ~/.cpan. It shouldn't even work without a basic config, right?
[18:30] <jtaylor> don't know
[18:31] <jtaylor> I'm not familiar with perl
[18:31] <jtaylor> can this changelog weirdness cause any trouble when we sync? http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-java/libhibernate-jbosscache-java.git;a=blob;f=debian/changelog;h=e208d0e4c525f0027eef470d515ddc09288cfb45;hb=HEAD
[18:31] <philsf> on any other box, if I remove .cpan and invoke the cpan shell, it promply autoconfigures cpan. in this one, this isn't happening
[18:31] <jtaylor> latest-debian-changelog-entry-without-new-version
[18:31] <philsf> jtaylor, oh, ok. thanks anyway
[18:44] <EvilResistance> by default, if i have a debian/patches/ folder, will the package building systems automatically apply those patches?
[18:44] <jtaylor> if its a 3.0 (quilt) package yes
[18:46] <EvilResistance> and where can i determine if its a quilt package?
[18:47] <jtaylor> debian/source/format
[19:29] <philsf> jtaylor, fwiw, I found out this is caused by a bug in dh-make-perl in the oneiric version. the version in debian testing 0.74-1 fixes it. btw, thanks for the pointers
[19:31] <EvilResistance> jtaylor:  i forgot to say thanks :P
[19:35] <l3on> cjwatson, around ? I'm looking at shogun that FTBFS ...
[19:35] <l3on> full log is here → http://debomatic.debian.net/precise/pool/shogun_1.1.0-1ubuntu1/shogun_1.1.0-1ubuntu1.buildlog (16 MB)
[19:36] <l3on> a snippet of build fail is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/799742/
[19:36] <l3on> the problem is in configure...
[19:36] <jtaylor> didn't we already have this?
[19:36] <l3on> that generates these variables:
[19:36] <l3on> LINKFLAGS_STATIC_INTERFACES =  -L../../shogun -lshogun
[19:37] <l3on> LINKFLAGS_MODULAR_INTERFACES=  -L../../shogun -lshogun
[19:37] <l3on> LINKFLAGS_RUBY   = -lruby1.8 -fPIC -shared -ldl
[19:37] <l3on> LINKFLAGS_RUBY_MODULAR  = -lruby1.8 -fPIC -shared -ldl
[19:37] <l3on> ok, ruby1.8 is my test
[19:37] <jtaylor> cmake?
[19:37] <tumbleweed> there are .0 files after -lruby-1.9.1
[19:38] <tumbleweed> .o
[19:38] <l3on> tumbleweed, I see
[19:38] <tumbleweed> oh, that's clag, not g++. Don't know how strict that is
[19:38] <l3on> jtaylor, no cflag
[19:38] <l3on> that variables should be POSTFLAGS
[19:38] <jtaylor> what buildsystem?
[19:38] <jtaylor> linkflags looks like cmake
[19:38] <l3on> debomatic
[19:39] <tumbleweed> l3on: that's not what jtaylor meant :)
[19:39] <l3on> lol :D
[19:39] <l3on> I'm new here, so pay patience :D
[19:39] <l3on> anyway, I'm trying to patch configure, using that variables as POSTFLAGS
[19:39] <l3on> do you think is the right way ?
[19:40] <jtaylor> Makefile.template looks like the right place
[19:40] <jtaylor> tumbleweed: can this changelog cause problems when syncing? http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-java/libhibernate-jbosscache-java.git;a=blob;f=debian/changelog;h=e208d0e4c525f0027eef470d515ddc09288cfb45;hb=HEAD
[19:41] <l3on> jtaylor, mmm but I didn't see the answer there
[19:41] <jtaylor> the versions are unordered
[19:42] <ScottK> jtaylor: Isn't the Debian version number lower than the Ubuntu one.
[19:42] <tumbleweed> yes, it is
[19:42] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: you'll need to bump the debian version number
[19:42] <tumbleweed> do a manual sync
[19:43] <jtaylor> ubuntu does not have that version in there
[19:43] <tumbleweed> oh, so it's just a b0rked changelog?
[19:43] <tumbleweed> then we're fine
[19:43] <jtaylor> yes
[19:43] <tumbleweed> still, file a WTF bug in debian :)
[19:44] <jtaylor> can you fix published changelogs?
[19:44]  * tumbleweed fixes bugs in old changelog entries
[19:44] <tumbleweed> but normally whitespace
[19:44] <tumbleweed> yeah you don't want to make big changes
[19:45] <tumbleweed> I suppose it has to be left as is
[19:46] <l3on> ah ok, I see maybe the problem in Makefile.template
[19:46] <l3on> see what's happen with last patch and, in case, patch Makefile.teplate
[19:47] <l3on> thanks for help :)
[19:47] <jtaylor> its a weird build system
[20:20] <l3on> guys is it correct:
[20:20] <l3on> X-Python-Version: >= 2.5
[20:20] <l3on> is I use dh_python2 ?
[20:20] <l3on> (and is it right for ubuntu ?)
[20:21] <jtaylor> yes
[20:21] <l3on> ah ok :)
[20:21] <l3on> thanks.
[20:22] <l3on> so jtaylor ... this change can be dropped:
[20:22] <l3on> -XS-Python-Version: 2.6
[20:22] <l3on> +XS-Python-Version: 2.7
[20:23] <l3on> if debian has set:
[20:23] <l3on> X-Python-Version: >= 2.5
[20:23] <jtaylor> debian converted to dh_python2 ?
[20:23] <jtaylor> which package?
[20:24] <EvilResistance> i take it that I can't get a PPA build bumped up in priority after its submitted?  I'm trying to release an updated version that patches out a vulnerability in the package, and its leaving me with a 20 hour wait time to build
[20:24] <l3on> always shogun, and yes, it use dh_python2 it's strange
[20:24] <l3on> s/it's strange//
[20:27] <jtaylor> you can drop the XS-Py-V
[20:27] <l3on> ok, thanks :)
[20:28] <jtaylor> did you see that package already has an as-needed patch in ubuntu?
[20:37] <l3on> jtaylor, yes I saw... but it does not work...
[20:37] <l3on> but it's the same way I patched configure
[21:41] <philsf> I just reported a bug in dh-make-perl (LP: #914479), that has a patch available in debian. can someone please review it and see if I need to provide anymore information?
[21:45] <Laney> philsf: Are you trying to get this fixed in Oneiric? If so, it would be good if you could make a debdiff that can be sponsored.
[21:46] <philsf> Laney, I don't have experience in packaging, so a debdiff is a little out of my league for now. Is there anything else I could do?
[21:47] <tumbleweed> whould you like to get some experience? :)
[21:47] <philsf> tumbleweed, I'm always always interested, but time is very short. is there a quick way for me to do this, or a for dummies tutorial I could read?
[21:49] <tumbleweed> I'll happily walk you through a first debdiff. There's lots of documentation, but nothing short adnd to the point for this
[21:50] <philsf> tumbleweed, if you think this bug applies for an SRU request, I'm game.
[21:52] <tumbleweed> the patch is pretty trivial, so it should be easy enough
[21:52] <tumbleweed> the apt-file issue is another bug and should be dealt with separately
[21:53] <philsf> ok
[21:54] <philsf> so, I never made a debdiff or prepared a patch, but I know how to get a source and compile a .deb.
[21:54] <tumbleweed> so, first, this bug is already fixed in precise (where 0.74 is published https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dh-make-perl ), so you can mark it fix released, and nominate the bug for oneiric
[21:56] <philsf> hmm, so this means it's also broken in precise, for the reason of the other bug (that should have been reported separately). is this correct?
[21:56] <EvilResistance> tumbleweed:  if i have a fork of a package, but its not hugely different from the package that exists in Debian or Ubuntu, is there an *easy* way to merge package version changes into the fork?
[21:56] <tumbleweed> philsf: it's broken for a different reason in precise, with different symptoms, right?
[21:56] <tumbleweed> I'd just edit those bits out of this bug
[21:57] <philsf> tumbleweed, right. should I then report another one, and link to the apt-file bug (later)?
[21:57] <tumbleweed> yeah
[21:58] <tumbleweed> EvilResistance: depends on how you forked it. VCS are handy for this kind of thing.
[21:59] <EvilResistance> tumbleweed:  just changed what the core install actually includes (i.e. the debian/<binary>.install for a single multi-binary source package, whereas the rest of the code and what not remains the same)
[21:59] <philsf> tumbleweed, how can I nominate for oneiric?
[21:59] <tumbleweed> philsf: do you get a "Nominate for series" button below the yellow bar? (I can't remember if everyone sees that these days)
[22:00] <philsf> tumbleweed, no. only "also affects project" and "... distribution"
[22:01] <tumbleweed> meh, ok, you have to ask for nominations on IRC then
[22:01] <Laney> I think it got taken away
[22:01]  * tumbleweed 'll do it now
[22:01] <tumbleweed> Laney: what does one have to do to be able to nominate then? join bugcontrol?
[22:02] <tumbleweed> philsf: right, so a debdiff is just a patch that'll apply to a source package
[22:02] <Laney> pretty sure you have to be a bug supervisor, yes
[22:02] <tumbleweed> start by grabbing the source: pull-debian-source dh-make-perl oneiric
[22:03] <tumbleweed> yeah, people used to abuse nominations a lot. I'm sure I did too, when I was a user who didn't know what it was for
[22:04]  * philsf may also be guilty of that
[22:06] <philsf> Error: Failed to download: dsc could not be found anywhere
[22:06] <Laney> pull-lp-source ;-)
[22:06] <tumbleweed> true, :)
[22:07] <philsf> lol, ok done
[22:08] <tumbleweed> right, now apply the patch you have, but throw away its changelog entry, and write your own (with dch -i)
[22:08] <philsf> should I edit the changelog out of the patch before applying?
[22:08] <tumbleweed> you could also do that
[22:09] <tumbleweed> it should target oneiric-proposed as the distribution
[22:09] <tumbleweed> and the version number should be smaller than the one in precise and bigger than the one in oneiric. We recommend 0.73-1ubuntu0.1
[22:10] <tumbleweed> (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates  for all the details)
[22:10] <philsf> ok, changed version and target in changelog, nothing else so far. wil try patching now
[22:11] <tumbleweed> "dch -e" should let you edit it, and substitute your name and e-mail address in
[22:11] <philsf> oh, that's better
[22:12] <tumbleweed> the changelog entry should close the LP bug
[22:13] <tumbleweed> (the syntax is LP: #XXXX)
[22:18] <philsf> ok, not a very creative changelog, but I guess it works
[22:18] <philsf> patched, and changelog created for new version
[22:18] <philsf> what now?
[22:19] <tumbleweed> debuild -uc -us -S
[22:19] <tumbleweed> cd ..
[22:19] <tumbleweed> debdiff old.dsc new.dsc > debdiff
[22:19] <tumbleweed> review the diff, attach to the bug
[22:20] <tumbleweed> (oh, and building a deb and testing it is probably not a bad idea)
[22:21] <EvilResistance> that last statement there is definitely true
[22:21] <philsf> ok, will build
[22:21] <philsf> dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc -us?
[22:22] <tumbleweed> that'l lwork
[22:22] <tumbleweed> we tend to use clean environments (pbuilder / sbuild) for most building, but there's nothing wrong with a quick-and-dirty build for testing something like this
[22:22] <philsf> unmet deps. :(
[22:23] <tumbleweed> ah, that's another place where build systems help
[22:23] <philsf> so, how do I do this properly?
[22:23] <philsf> should I apt-get build-dep ?
[22:23] <tumbleweed> you want to set up a pbuilder?
[22:24] <jtaylor> I recommend mk-build-deps -r -i, easier to remove them all again
[22:24] <tumbleweed> +1 to mk-build-deps over apt-get source
[22:25] <philsf> do I run it inside the source dir, or where the .dsc is?
[22:25] <tumbleweed> in the source dir
[22:26] <philsf> ok, build deps installed, and package building (in test phase)
[22:30] <philsf> dh_auto_test: perl Build test returned exit code 255
[22:31] <tumbleweed> yay
[22:32] <philsf> did I patch it wrongly? I entered the source dir and patch -p1 < ../patch
[22:32] <philsf> but before I tried without -p1, wonder if it matters
[22:35] <tumbleweed> just busy replicating it here
[22:37] <philsf> ok, brb in 5min
[22:37] <tumbleweed> hrm, this test seems to be hammering the internet. Naughty test
[22:39] <tumbleweed> philsf: I see test failures at "t/dists.t line 82."
[22:43] <Laney> there are fixes to that file in git
[22:43] <tumbleweed> ah, thanks laney. I got sidetracked in another #
[22:44] <philsf> so, what should I do now? does this complicate the patch?
[22:44] <philsf> after that error, I'm retrying the build and t/cache.t is taking forever.
[22:44] <Laney> it seems like the test suite had bugs
[22:45] <Laney> you probably need the last change on http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-perl/packages/dh-make-perl.git;a=history;f=t/dists.t;h=f13e477a52ec0158b2f8bdcfb0cebd7a765beabc;hb=HEAD
[22:45] <Laney> and possibly other ones too
[22:45] <philsf> oh boy...
[22:46] <Laney> hey, at least the problem has (probably) already been fixed for you :P
[22:47] <philsf> lol. I thought it would be a simple patch-and-conquer. :/
[22:47] <tumbleweed> the simple-looking ones always turn out harder than they look :)
[22:48] <philsf> this last diff seems larger than the original patch
[22:48] <tumbleweed> well, the origional patch was 4 characters + a test :)
[22:50] <philsf> but AIUI the samller the patch, the better the chances it will be accepted for SRU
[22:51] <philsf> for my purposes, downgrading to the natty version works around the bug
[22:52] <tumbleweed> I don' tsee that being an issue here
[22:53] <philsf> but we also can't be sure this other diff will be enough, and it's already kind of late for me here
[22:53] <philsf> thanks for your time, but I think I'll get back to this tomorrow (maybe)
[22:53] <tumbleweed> philsf: sure, night
[22:54] <philsf> tumbleweed, thanks again. and sorry for your time
[22:54] <tumbleweed> np
[23:11] <l3on> finally shogun built fine !
[23:37] <cjwatson> jtaylor,Ampelbein: I'm afraid you read the d-i internals docs wrongly a few days back.  udebs must not depend on non-udebs, and vice versa.  Doing so will fail.
[23:41] <cjwatson> jtaylor,Ampelbein: udebs may Build-Depend on debs, though (in fact, they may *only* Build-Depend on debs)


[05:30] <inetpro> fp
[05:30] <inetpro> Good morning
[05:32] <Squirm> morning
[05:36] <mazal> Morning :-)
[08:20] <charlvn> guten morgen alle lookenspeepers
[08:29] <mazal> Watse goed ?
[08:30] <bakuman> goeie more
[08:34] <charlvn> mazal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinkenlights
[08:34] <charlvn> hi bakuman
[08:34] <bakuman> hi!
[10:10] <inetpro> charlvn: lookenspeepers?
[10:12] <inetpro> Blinkenlights? hmm...
[10:16] <mazal> Does anyone know what could cause Samba to be VERY slow. Copies at only 300 to 800kb/s on 100mb/s lan ?
[10:16] <mazal> I can't find the cause and tried the buffer settings thing , but nothing helps
[10:17] <mazal> I tested with iperf and the test gets 9.3mb/s speed. Also my apache speed is fine. So it seems to be related to samba only
[10:27] <mazal> Working on some more info , just trying to find my post on the forum
[10:28] <mazal> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1984691&page=2
[10:28] <mazal> The relevant stuff is from post nr 20
[10:30] <mazal> Post nr 18 actually
[10:35] <superfly> mazal: firstly, that's 100 megaBITS per second, not BYTES
[10:35] <superfly> secondly, are you copying to or from a Windows box?
[10:43] <mazal> Superfly I know
[10:43] <mazal> I should get at least 9mb/s , not 300kb/s
[10:44] <mazal> From Windows XP to Ubuntu server 11.10
[10:44] <mazal> Apache fine , ssh fine , iperf test get's 9mb/s , only Samba copies at 300 to 800kb/s
[10:45] <superfly> mazal: OK, well, Windows' networking stack is a mess to behold, so copying speeds are always slow. secondly, things will *always* vary over a network
[10:45] <mazal> Not that slow Superfly
[10:45] <mazal> I get the normal 9mb/s to my other Ubuntu server on the same network from the same client
[10:46]  * superfly doesn't use samba, so he can't help much further than point out networking [ab]normalities
[10:47] <mazal> One is 10.10 , other one is 11.10
[10:47] <mazal> Something is very badly wrong
[10:48] <superfly> mazal: when did this start?
[10:48] <mazal> Right from the word go
[10:49] <mazal> Since installation
[10:49] <mazal> At first I saw that my ssh login takes very long
[10:49] <tumbleweed> broken DNS?
[10:49] <superfly> mazal: dude, I don't get your attitude on the forums. Windows always needs extra external tools to do ANY troubleshooting, and you're moaning that you have to apt-get a package or two?
[10:49] <mazal> Then when I started to put data to the shares I immediately saw big problems
[10:49] <mazal> You are looking at 15 to copy 100mb
[10:49] <mazal> 15min even
[10:50] <superfly> though asking why a server is not connected to the internet, and asking about FTP are just stupid.
[10:50] <mazal> Superfly that is frustration that vented there because I always have to struggle because of a proxy
[10:51] <mazal> Anyway , that is not the issue
[10:51] <superfly> mazal: btw, generally if I have a problem, I ask on CLUG-chat/tech or GLUG-chat/tech
[10:51] <mazal> iperf have been installed and shows that my network is fine
[10:51] <superfly> Ubuntu Forums is full of people who think they know more than they do
[10:52] <mazal> And I also knew that struggling to get that app installed will help nothing as I knew my network is ok
[10:52] <mazal> Anyway , tests shows that it seems to be apache only
[10:53] <mazal> tumbleweed, why you say dns ?
[10:53] <tumbleweed> mazal: if it's taking forever to log in by ssh, I'll bet that you have broken reverse DNS
[10:53] <mazal> ssh is fixed
[10:53] <mazal> But how can I check that tumbleweed  ?
[10:56] <tumbleweed> by looking up hostnames from IPs
[10:56] <mazal> I have double checked everything in interfaces as well as resolv.conf
[10:56] <tumbleweed> anyway, no idea why your samba is slow
[10:56] <mazal> And all the ip's is correct in resolv.conf and interfaces
[10:57] <mazal> ok , thank you
[11:04] <mazal> I just tested to see if I can ping out using hostnames and that works fine. So I can see hostnames , IE my dns is fine ?
[11:14] <tumbleweed> yup
[11:14] <mazal> oi , I have no idea what else to test. Went through all advice
[11:16] <tumbleweed> is samba only slow when you access it from windows? or linux too?
[11:16] <tumbleweed> anything interesting in the log files?
[11:16] <mazal> I don't have a Linux client here at work
[11:16] <mazal> Only two Ubuntu servers
[11:17] <mazal> My only ubuntu laptop is on a different server and can't see the server :-(
[11:17] <mazal> I am forced to use Windows
[11:17] <mazal> on a different network even
[11:18] <mazal> tumbleweed: I don't know which log files to check for this particular issue
[11:19] <tumbleweed> samba's log files, and also have a lok over daemon.log
[11:20]  * mazal goes hunting for samba log files
[11:25] <charlvn> inetpro: it's a very old thing, it's surprising to see how many people here don't know about it
[11:27] <charlvn> mazal: is it only samba or is scp also slow?
[11:30] <mazal> Samba log files shows nothing and I don't have a daemon.log
[11:30] <mazal> charlvn: yup
[11:30] <mazal> only samba
[11:30] <charlvn> ah ok
[11:32] <NeVeR_> Hi Guys
[11:33] <NeVeR_> I did the Pre-training assessment: Ubuntu Professional, on the canonical site.. says I got level 5.. what does that even mean? :|
[11:34] <superfly> NeVeR_: I wouldn't know, never heard of it before.
[11:34] <charlvn> me neither
[11:34] <NeVeR_> oic :| lol
[11:34] <charlvn> this is an ubuntu support channel, not really a canonical channel
[11:35] <NeVeR_> I want to get some sort of certification, looking at changing jobs.. I was just looking at some course at Obsysdian and it said I should do the pre-assesment... did it but it tells me nothing :P
[11:35] <inetpro> charlvn: s/ubuntu support channel/ubuntu community channel/
[11:35] <charlvn> inetpro: you're right, community channel
[11:36] <charlvn> NeVeR_: it's a good question, i don't really know what is considered a "good" option for certification
[11:36] <charlvn> i, for one, have no formal linux certification, and that's the way i prefer to keep it
[11:37]  * inetpro agrees with charlvn
[11:37] <inetpro> autodidacticism ftw!
[11:38] <charlvn> i use such a stack of software, for me to even attempt to formally qualify myself in any of those is impractical
[11:38] <charlvn> i just did a B.Sc. in software engineering for some background
[11:39] <charlvn> autodidacticism++
[11:39] <charlvn> ok meeting bbl
[11:39] <inetpro> charlvn: enjoy!
[11:41]  * inetpro checks the topic
[11:41] <inetpro> I wonder how that Ubuntu Hour went on Saturday
[11:42] <inetpro> hope someone can help us update the topic
[11:45] <superfly> NeVeR_: I know that Obsidian offers a number of certifications. It's probably a good idea to get a certification from them, and you might get a job through their connections
[12:11] <NeVeR_> thanks for the info guys :)
[12:48] <mazal> Bye everyone , have a good afternoon
[13:35] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday superfly  and others
[13:35] <Kilos> hi NeVeR_
[13:35] <Kilos> lol
[13:37] <charlvn> hi Kilos
[13:37] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[13:37] <Kilos> hey charlvn all good
[13:37] <charlvn> yup yup
[13:37] <charlvn> just rainy
[13:37] <charlvn> and you?
[13:38] <Kilos> im good ty where is it raining?
[13:38] <charlvn> where i live in unknown location :)
[13:38] <Kilos> ha ha ha no man cant be the tvl  so maybe the cape or natal
[13:39] <charlvn> not .za
[13:39] <charlvn> :)
[13:39] <Kilos> ah
[13:39] <Kilos> oh you also there
[13:39] <Kilos> with psydroid  and the smiley guy
[13:39] <charlvn> "there"?
[13:39] <charlvn> ah from my hostname charlvn.nl
[13:40] <charlvn> good guess, that might or might not be correct
[13:40] <charlvn> if you traceroute the url you will end up in germany
[13:40] <charlvn> the hostname i mean
[13:40] <charlvn> but that might or might not be where i live
[13:40] <Kilos> not a guess you put in the country when you sign up with irc
[13:41] <Kilos> or did you talk a lie
[13:41] <charlvn> you don't "sign up" with irc, you just connect to a server
[13:41] <charlvn> oh wait you are using a client like xchat that gives you the country?
[13:41] <Kilos> lol ya
[13:41] <charlvn> it just determines that by the cctld in the hostname
[13:41] <charlvn> it has a list of cctlds and the corresponding names of the country
[13:41] <Kilos> cctld?
[13:42] <charlvn> country-code top level domain
[13:42] <charlvn> .nl or .za or similar
[13:42] <NeVeR_> Hi Kilos
[13:42] <NeVeR_> :P
[13:42] <Kilos> whew thats a mouthfull
[13:42] <charlvn> yeah
[13:42] <charlvn> you also get a gtld - a general top level domain
[13:42] <Kilos> NeVeR_, are you new here?
[13:42] <charlvn> generic, sorry, not general
[13:43] <NeVeR_> Yea I'm new :)
[13:43] <Kilos> NeVeR_, welcome to ubuntu-za
[13:43] <zeref> huurrrrrmmm, internet back :D
[13:43] <zeref> pew pew, weo weo
[13:43] <Kilos> hi zeref
[13:43] <zeref> hi Kilos
[13:43] <charlvn> hi zeref, your internet was down?
[13:44] <zeref> yeah since last wednesday
[13:44] <charlvn> that sucks
[13:44] <Kilos> wow that sucks zeref
[13:44] <charlvn> wow since wednesday, that's a long time
[13:44] <Kilos> zeref, arent you at the varsity?
[13:45] <zeref> my life was meh, for bout a week
[13:45] <NeVeR_> thx :> is there a local entry point for this irc server??
[13:45] <zeref> Kilos: webs at res...
[13:45] <Kilos> NeVeR_, yes freenode
[13:45] <zeref> was lazy to go to campus, esp in the evening
[13:46] <Kilos> yeah zeref too cold
[13:46] <Kilos> NeVeR_, are you using xchat or quassel
[13:46] <NeVeR_> neither at the moment lol... I'
[13:46] <NeVeR_> I'm using a webclient
[13:47] <NeVeR_> I'm on my work laptop.. its windows (puke)
[13:47] <NeVeR_> its got windows
[13:47] <Kilos> ok you can install xchat and set it up to come here easily
[13:47] <Kilos> ouch
[13:47] <Kilos> you get xchat for winsucks as well
[13:48] <NeVeR_> lol I got Mirc on winsucks
[13:48] <NeVeR_> mIRC
[13:48] <NeVeR_> is it za.freenode.net ?
[13:48] <charlvn> NeVeR_: afaik there are no south african servers for freenode
[13:48] <NeVeR_> :( i see
[13:48] <Kilos> nope
[13:48] <Kilos> just freenode
[13:48] <charlvn> there are a bunch in the usa, a bunch in europe, and one in australia
[13:49] <Kilos> methinks xchat is easier than mirc
[13:49] <NeVeR_> I can't connect from my work, delay is too bad.. just times out :\ can only connect through a web client
[13:49] <Kilos> aw
[13:49] <charlvn> it's ridiculous that the windows build of xchat is shareware
[13:50] <charlvn> http://xchat.org/windows/
[13:50] <Kilos> NeVeR_, where are you?
[13:50] <NeVeR_> Where am I? O_o Bryanston
[13:51] <charlvn> oh i see there are some free non-official builds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Chat
[13:51] <charlvn> NeVeR_: freenode has an incredibly high ping timeout threshold so if that happens your internet is pretty screwed
[13:52] <charlvn> or run linux inside a virtual machine and run xchat/irssi or similar inside of that, another alternative
[13:52] <Kilos> NeVeR_, win 7 or xp?
[13:52] <NeVeR_> Win 7
[13:52] <NeVeR_> I'll give xchat a try tonight... got lots of work to do for now :/
[13:52] <Kilos> Maaz, google free xchat for win7
[13:52] <Maaz> Kilos: "XChat: Multiplatform Chat Program" http://xchat.org/ :: "XChat for Windows" http://xchat.org/windows/ :: "X-Chat 2 for Windows" http://www.silverex.org/ :: "XChat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XChat :: "xchat Windows 7 - Free Download Windows 7 xchat" http://www.windows7download.com/free-win7-xchat/ :: "Download X-Chat for Windows 7 free - Windows 7 Download" http://www.windows7download.com/win7-x-
[13:53] <charlvn> silverex is the one i just found
[13:53] <charlvn> there are some more on the wikipedia page
[13:53] <NeVeR_> yoooooh
[13:54] <NeVeR_> I g2g :) Speakya guys later.. Thanks for the warm welcome!
[13:54] <Kilos> yw NeVeR_
[14:11] <Kilos> dag sê HawkiesZA
[14:14] <Kilos> hey sakhi you still going strong?
[14:15] <Kilos> inetpro, howzit boet
[14:17] <HawkiesZA> 'lo Kilos. I'm actually on my way now
[14:17] <Kilos> go well HawkiesZA
[14:17] <HawkiesZA> Will log in again when I'm home
[14:18] <HawkiesZA> Cheers
[14:18] <Kilos> cool
[14:18] <Kilos> does he ever chat? first time ive seen him say something
[14:19] <Kilos> Maaz, tell magespawn. wassup stranger
[14:19] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know who magespawn. is. Say 'magespawn. on freenode' and I'll take your word that magespawn. exists
[14:19] <Kilos> sigh
[14:19] <Kilos> Maaz, tell magespawn on freenode . wassup stranger
[14:19] <Maaz> Kilos: Got it, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[14:21] <Kilos> maiatoday, what was the study results girl
[14:21] <Kilos> ?
[15:08] <Kilos> bbl
[17:08] <charlvn> good evening folks
[17:12] <mazal> Hello charlvn
[17:41] <Kilos> hi superfly and other geeks
[17:41] <Kilos> yo smile4linux
[17:41] <superfly> evening Kilos
[17:45] <Kilos> yo magespawn you still alive?
[17:45] <magespawn> Evening all
[17:45] <magespawn> Hi Kilos, onky just.
[17:45] <magespawn> Only
[17:45] <Kilos> whats wrong lad?
[17:45] <magespawn> Just busy.
[17:45] <Kilos> busy is good man
[17:46] <magespawn> Yes but does not allow me much time to come here or get gc back online
[17:47] <Kilos> haha i missed gc other day because maaz fogot where to find the PTA weather report
[17:51] <inetpro> good evening fine folk!
[17:52] <Kilos> yo gussie koud ne
[17:52] <inetpro> Kilos: yep, word beslis al hoe kouer
[17:52] <inetpro> verwarmer is aan
[17:52] <Kilos> sjoe as dit nie vanaand ryp nie dan weet ek nie
[17:53] <Kilos> maar die vye bome bot
[17:53] <Kilos> so hopelik n kort koue tyd
[17:54] <inetpro> hmm...
[17:54] <inetpro> hoop daai vyebome is reg
[17:54] <inetpro> dalk is hulle deurmekaar
[17:54] <Kilos> lol ja kan wees
[17:55] <inetpro> wat sê die weerburo?
[17:55] <inetpro> wat is die minimum vir more?
[17:55] <Kilos> so tussen 4 en 6°c hier
[17:55] <Kerbero> 6
[17:56] <Kilos> ons is bietjie kouer as pta
[17:56] <Kilos> meer soos jhb
[17:57] <Kilos> dankie Kerbero
[17:58] <Kilos> gaan dit goed?
[18:03] <smile4linux> hallo Kilos :)
[18:09] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[18:09]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[18:11] <magespawn> You guys really should come down here in winter.
[18:12] <Kilos> Maaz, hot
[18:12] <Kilos> hmm
[18:12] <Maaz> Come on Kilos How many peeps do you know that make coffee with cold water twit!
[18:13] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[18:27] <Kilos> sleep tight all. see ya morrow
[18:31] <smile4linux> bye :)
[20:12] <magespawn> Night all.


[01:34] <teward> AsciiWolf: i got busy today then passed out.  Let me review the new bugs and then get everything I need reayd to go so I can prep the debdiff tomorrow
[01:34] <teward> and as rbasak said, if both me and rbasak endorse it it'll be fasttracked through SRU queue


[02:08] <phunyguy> running into another issue.... whenever I click links from external applications, it opens a new blank firefox window... and not the link I clicked.  This is a fresh install!
[03:45] <holstein> phunyguy: phresh install of 14.04? 14.10? stock xubuntu 32bit?
[03:46] <phunyguy> holstein: fresh 14.04.2, looks like the entry in default applications settings is broken.
[03:46] <phunyguy> 64 bit
[03:46] <phunyguy> I added a new one with /usr/bin/firefox "%s" and that worked.
[03:46] <holstein> cool..
[03:47] <phunyguy> I even created a new user on here and tested it... did the same thing.
[03:47] <holstein> sure.. might be a bug from somewhere
[03:47] <holstein> no doubt, that sort of thing isnt tested
[03:47] <phunyguy> yep
[03:47] <holstein> i consider it an unconfigured configuration ;)
[05:30] <chrisco97> I have a quick question I wondered if anyone could answer.
[05:31] <chrisco97> Is there a way to hide the icon in the default weather applet that comes with Xubuntu?
[10:36] <michal__> hello guys, after last update of firefox on trusty I think there may be a bug
[10:38] <michal__> after clicking links on other programs such as thunderbird or liferea, firefox shows up but as new window with start page
[10:38] <brainvvash> michal__, that most likely https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11601
[10:39] <michal__> yeah
[10:39] <michal__> thank you guys, I think I need to temporarily choose chromium as a default...
[10:42] <brainvvash> michal__, run "gvfs-mime –set x-scheme-handler/http firefox.desktop", restart the app and click a link
[10:42] <brainvvash> this may resolve the problem (maybe only temporary)
[10:43] <michal__> as much as I like Xfce, I'm afraid that the official fix will come after months or years :(
[10:43] <brainvvash> also, x-scheme-handler/https for https
[10:44] <brainvvash> nah, it will be fixed asap we get a patch
[10:45] <michal__> brainvvash, this commands affect only the file ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list ?
[10:45] <brainvvash> if assigning the mime type manually works (persistent), then there is at least a simple workaround/fix
[10:46] <brainvvash> michal__, I think so, yes
[10:46] <michal__> then I'll temper it manually
[10:47] <brainvvash> just tested it and it works here (xubuntu 15.04)
[10:52] <michal__> that only worked, when I chose firefox to open links in liferea preferences
[10:53] <michal__> at least I know what's wrong - more or less ;)
[10:53] <brainvvash> :D
[11:37] <klopsi-u3> !nvidia
[11:39] <klopsi-u3> System->Administration->Additional Drivers shows zero drivers available
[11:40] <klopsi-u3> actually it is Settings->Additional Drivers
[11:41] <klopsi-u3> sudo ubuntu-drivers devices returns nothing
[11:43] <klopsi-u3> linux-headers-<IP_ADDRESS> already installed
[11:55] <klopsi-u3> trying apt-get install nvidia-331
[11:57] <klopsi-u3> Building for 3.13.0-45-generic and 3.13.0-46-generic
[11:59] <klopsi-u3> rebooting
[11:59] <klopsi-u3> seeing 640x480 splash screen
[12:03] <klopsi-u3> glxinfo shows missing GLX extension
[12:04] <klopsi-u3> lsmod doesnt show any nvidia modules
[12:06] <klopsi-u3> maybe nvidia gtx 970 is too new?
[12:07] <brainvvash> klopsi-u3, I suggest that you ask in #ubuntu
[12:10] <klopsi-u3> ah i found a possible answer, apparently need nvidia-343 drivers
[12:10] <klopsi-u3> or 346
[12:19] <klopsi-u3> hmm nvidia-346 seems to work!
[12:24] <klopsi-u3> yaay got nvidia drivers working
[12:24] <klopsi-u3> and they even report gpu temps
[12:24] <klopsi-u3> maybe we can update the !nvidia instructions?
[12:45] <klopsi-u3> ah the unigine Valley benchmark also runs on linux
[12:51] <klopsi-u3> very nice gpu test
[12:58] <klopsi-u3> https://unigine.com/products/valley
[13:00] <brainvvash> klopsi-u3, I'm glad that you got it sorted, but this is not the right place to share things like that
[13:00] <brainvvash> !ot
[13:01] <klopsi-u3> ok sorry brainvvash will join offtopic
[13:01] <brainvvash> thanks
[14:16] <TopGear> Hello!
[14:21] <knome> hello
[14:24] <TopGear> I can't find any 12.04.5 .torrent desktop files. Weren't they generated?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> TopGear, check your settings.  Where did you tell your client to store them.
[14:26] <TopGear> cfhowlett, I just mean the .torrent files for the desktop version of Xubuntu 12.04.5 from cdimage.ubuntu.com.
[14:27] <cfhowlett> TopGear, confirmed.  highest version is 12.04.4
[14:28] <TopGear> The dailies are only the Alternates, AFAIK. Can I update 12.04.4 via apt-get dist-upgrade/update manager to 12.04.5?
[14:30] <cfhowlett> TopGear, yes, dist-upgrade should jump you to 12.4.5
[17:09] <brownfaux> is there a default disk partitioner for Xubuntu, or a prefered one? Just wanting to reformat some drives
[17:10] <holstein> brownfaux: i like gparted, when its doing what i need it to do.. which is most of the time
[17:10] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GParted
[17:10] <genii> gparted is the defacto standard partitioner
[17:11] <brownfaux> holstein: yea I normally use that, but it didn't come pre installed on my fresh install of xubuntu, wasn't sure if the community was trying to suggest something new or different
[17:12] <brownfaux> ill install that and go on as usual
[17:19] <Oskar__> Hello, is anyone there?
[17:20] <holstein> yes.. many are here. if you have a question, ask Oskar__ , and a volunteer may be able to assist.. welcome
[17:22] <Oskar__> when inserting a usb drive, it is automatically mounted. If I choose files to transfer to my hard drive, it works if it's only one. If however, I select more what happens is that it says "collecting files" while nothing happens. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[17:23] <holstein> Oskar__: not definitively.. i would try isolating and testing.. i have other sticks laying about, though.. i would try other filemanagers, after checking for and applying updates. i would try other formats, and other sticks, and that stick other places as well.. even if its just live iso's on that same hardware
[17:24] <Oskar__> alright holstein will do. Thanks a lot!
[17:39] <xubuntu51w> hello, i need some help please ...
[17:40] <knome> xubuntu51w, ask; if somebody knows the answer, they'll most likely reply
[17:41] <xubuntu51w> here's my problem : i'm on xubuntu 14.10, and when I close my laptop's screen, my laptop goes hibernate
[17:42] <xubuntu51w> when it restart, i found the lock screen, i inser my password and then ... blackscreen
[17:43] <xubuntu51w> I'l still able to interact with the computer aka : if just before hibernate I was watching a video on youtube, i'm still capable to start/pause the video by clicking where it should be but I can't see the video or anything else, it's just black
[17:44] <xubuntu51w> if I log like a guest, there is no problem...
[17:44] <xubuntu51w> can anyone help me ?
[17:47] <klopsi-u3> hmm
[17:50] <klopsi-u3> maybe it is a video driver problem xubuntu51w
[17:51] <xubuntu51w> i don't have a graphic card
[17:52] <genii> You don't have a graphic card?
[17:53] <xubuntu51w> except the one on my laptop processor (intel i5)
[17:55] <klopsi-u3> can you switch to a virtual terminal and back to X to see if that restores your screen_
[17:55] <klopsi-u3> ?
[17:56] <klopsi-u3> i dont even know if ubuntu supports consoles with ctrl-alt-f1, f2 etc
[17:56] <htqp> klopsi-u3: yes it does, tty on f1-f6 and X11 on f7 upwards
[17:58] <xubuntu51w> ok thanks I will try it
[17:59] <linuxwiller> Guys, when XFCE 4.12 comes out, will it be upgraded automatically or should I do something to manually install it?
[18:00] <innocent> Hello.I m on a fresh 14.04 install .2 monitors and an ati r7 graphics card.On top of my laptops native screen there is a flashy pink line.Any guidance on related reading about how to fix it?Already tried all open and proprietary drivers with no luck.Thanks in advance!
[18:07] <Sailoreal> Hi
[18:07] <Sailoreal> I wonder how to install Xubuntu with Dual boot alongside Windows 7
[18:07] <Sailoreal> Can someone provide me with a video or instruction?
[18:10] <knome> !dualboot | Sailoreal
[18:11] <Sailoreal> Is Xubuntu the best? I have 200GB HDD and 4GB RAM x64. I like modern and fast OS.
[18:12] <knome> Sailoreal, you're asking the xubuntu channel, what kind of reply do you expect to that question?
[18:13] <knome> i'm off, good luck with installation
[19:23] <innocent> Hi again.Missed any answers before :/ Just did a fresh14.04 install.Got 1 extra onitor attached to the laptop and an ati r7 graphics card.On the top part of my native screen there is a pink flickering line.Already tried the open and the proprietary ati drivers.Could som1 point me to some related reading on solving this?Thanks in advance!
[19:25] <holstein> innocent: well, unfortunatley, the "answer" may be, the hardware doesnt support linux, and there may not be a "fix" that ati has provided, or that the open linux/ubuntu teams can provide
[19:25] <holstein> innocent: what i usualy do is, just fire up as many live distros as i can.. not "ubuntu vs xubuntu" for example, but, 14.04 vs 12.04.. different kernels, and different driver versions
[19:26] <holstein> there is an xorg ppa.. likely a few others as well. that provide different versions of drivers..
[19:26] <holstein> i would do my testing with *only* the internal display.. and i like using arandr as the GUI configuration tool when i start experiementing with dual head
[19:29] <innocent> Hardware not supporting linux , somehow , feels like a big surprise .Specially if you consider that this is a new laptop :/ I have already started checking other distros but i would really love to solve this ;D I ll check about the xorg ppa .Thank you holstein !
[23:05] <arun_> hi guys, when will the xfce 4.12 for Ubuntu get relased ?
[23:06] <holstein> arun_: ubuntu is not a rolling release..
[23:06] <arun_> holstein: I do know that.
[23:07] <arun_> holstein: I was thinking of some PPA stuffs
[23:07] <knome> arun_, 4.12 will be in vivid.
[23:07] <arun_> knome: ok thanks. but I hope it will also support trusty ..
[23:07] <holstein> http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.12/roadmap
[23:08] <holstein> you can also research a ppa if you like https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce-4.12
[23:08] <knome> components will be backported if they provide security patches, otherwise, don't expect a backport of everything
[23:08] <arun_> knome: thanks.
[23:14] <xubuntu18o> Hi, I am new to Xubuntu. Just installed Xubuntu 10.04 LTS on my laptop. What is the best way to enable filesharing on xubuntu
[23:14] <elfy> ummm
[23:14] <xubuntu18o> Xubuntu and OSX
[23:14] <elfy> what I would do is first get something that's not only supported as a server edition :)
[23:15] <elfy> 10.04 desktop is EOL
[23:15] <xubuntu18o> 14.04
[23:15] <xubuntu18o> ha! sorry
[23:15] <elfy> ok :)
[23:15] <holstein> also, "filesharing" between what? exactly.. if its just sharing files between xubuntu and OSX dual booting, you can mount the drive and share what you like
[23:16] <elfy> not that I can actually help with that :)
[23:16] <xubuntu18o> I have some files on my mac that I want to send to my laptop
[23:17] <xubuntu16w> quick question. I have a bootable usb with 14.04.1 and want to install on my mom's pc. will it be able to upgrade to 14.04.2 or should I write that new iso to the USB before installing
[23:17] <xubuntu16w> don't want to waste an hour downloading the newer iso and writing it unless i need to
[23:18] <knome> xubuntu16w, once you upgrade all packages, you are essentially at 14.04.2
[23:18] <xubuntu16w> thanks knome
[23:18] <knome> np, enjoy
[23:18] <holstein> xubuntu18o: the way i did that was, ftp server, and client.. since i was behind my firewall.. but, dropbox works both places.. as well as other software solutions
[23:19] <holstein> xubuntu18o: samba would work both places.. i think it depends on how persistent you want it to be.. how persistent and easy..
[23:19] <xubuntu18o> ok, no simple menu point and click that I just missed.
[23:20] <holstein> xubuntu18o: i use gigolo.. though, in the menu on the mac, i created a share that the linux machine could easily join
[23:20] <holstein> theres no "see your mac" button..
[23:22] <xubuntu18o> if I run the command shares-admin, it gives me window for filesharing but it fails to install services (SMB and NFS)
[23:32] <xubuntu96w> I'm having issues with my microphone crackling on Xubuntu 14.04, any suggestions?
[23:33] <holstein> xubuntu96w: can you share the noise in any way? do you know what i mean by "clipping"? when is it making a sound?
[23:40] <xubuntu96w> holstein: Only when I talk  to other people
[23:40] <xubuntu96w> Only they can hear it, when I record and playback, I hear the sound myself
[23:40] <holstein> xubuntu96w: sure.. can you share it? do you know what i mean by clipping?
[23:41] <xubuntu96w> holstein: No
[23:41] <holstein> xubuntu96w: try just simply turning the mic down
[23:42] <xubuntu96w> I did that
[23:42] <xubuntu96w> I turned it to 34% and people still hear it
[23:43] <xubuntu96w> I can't think of a way to capture the sound
[23:44] <xubuntu96w> holstein: Let me call the Skype Test Call bot and record it
[23:44] <holstein> xubuntu96w: skype can also be set to manual, so its notadjusting your mic settings
[23:51] <xubuntu96w> holstein: I turned off auto adjust
[23:52] <holstein> xubuntu96w: i would not use *only* skype for this test..
[23:52] <xubuntu96w> What else should I use to record
[23:53] <holstein> xubuntu96w: i would use something simple like audacity
[23:53] <holstein> xubuntu96w: but, dont over think it, and add new issues into your situation.. just try and isolate and test
[23:54] <holstein> xubuntu96w: you could have an issue specific to skype.. and not with the hardware at all
[23:58] <xubuntu96w> holstein: Recording with audacity shows that my mic speed is like three times the normal speed
[23:58] <holstein> xubuntu96w: ?
[23:58] <holstein> xubuntu96w: you mean, your voice is higher?
[23:59] <holstein> xubuntu96w: the mic has no "speed"..
[23:59] <xubuntu96w> When I play it back, the audio plays really fast
[23:59] <xubuntu96w> holstein


[12:35] <fagan> \o/ now I have irc on both my computers at once no more typing links by hand :)
[12:36] <fagan> now only to figure out how to do it remotely
[16:11] <mesh> hi, my ubuntuone seems stuck in 'doing server rescan', it does not sync any files
[16:25] <karni> hi mesh, please do drop by tomorrow, the team isn't usually around during Sunday's
[16:25] <karni> *Sundays  ;d
[16:25] <mesh> ok
[16:26] <karni> thanks
[16:26] <mesh> by reconnecting I got it working, and it started uploading files, but now it sais everything is updated when it isn't, but I'll ask again later this week
[16:30] <karni> ah. okey mesh, please do come by and ask again.


[03:31] <nlsthzn> Night shift coming to a close... cheers all :)
[07:05] <CrummyGummy> Hiya, Does Ubuntu still use the interfaces file for IP configuration?
[07:11] <superfly> CrummyGummy: not on the desktop AFAIK
[07:11] <superfly> CrummyGummy: network manager does some autodetection and whatnot
[07:13] <CrummyGummy> ja thanks, I was talking about server. I got it, the default route was in the wrong/different subnet
[07:26] <sakhi> morning
[07:29] <superfly> morning sakhi
[08:05] <nuvolari> o/
[10:06] <panphried> Martini please Maaz
[10:06] <panphried> Maaz Martini
[10:06] <Maaz> panphried: What?
[10:06] <queery> haha
[10:07] <panphried> worth a try
[10:07] <queery> ill fix thath
[10:08] <panphried> thanks :)
[10:09] <queery> try now
[10:09] <panphried> Maaz, a Martini please
[10:09] <Maaz> panphried: Go get it yourself!
[10:09] <queery> haha
[10:09] <queery> just Martini
[10:09] <panphried> lol. fair enuf
[10:10] <panphried> Maaz Martini
[10:10]  * Maaz shakes up a vodka and gin mixed Martini for panphried
[10:10] <queery> ;-P
[10:10] <panphried> excellent Maaz, thank you very much
[10:10] <panphried> thanks
[10:11] <panphried> its that sort of day
[10:15] <queery> haha
[10:21] <queery> Maaz, coffee on
[10:21]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[10:25] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for queery!
[10:25] <queery> Maaz, ty
[10:25] <Maaz> Enjoy queery
[12:22] <tumbleweed> Maaz: highvoltage ++ [[ raising an interesting discussion in the community council ]]
[12:24] <marcog> tumbleweed: discussion being?
[12:24] <tumbleweed> top item on wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda/talk
[12:27] <marcog> makes sense
[13:49] <scar[w]> in which country is highvoltage atm?
[13:50] <marcog> canada if i'm not mistaken
[16:40] <nlsthzn> Salute


[01:21] <pusky> Hi I am pasquale and need help with Ubuntu Studio on a motherboor with nvidia chihset
[01:22] <pusky> !motherboard with Nvidia Chipset
[01:23] <pusky> how can you help me ubottu
[01:31] <pusky> anyone have any experience with motherboard that have MCP55 SATA Controller
[01:33] <pusky> not sure if I am doing this right, is there anyone here?
[01:35] <pusky> #SERVLIST
[01:56] <pusky> OK found my answer NVIDIA Corporation MCP55 SATA Controller seems to be only supported under 10.04 LTS
[01:56] <pusky> 8.04 LTS
[01:57] <pusky> ok bye
[10:03] <millerthegorilla> hey guys just installed studio 12.10 and its looking great.  2 things tho, does anyone know if there's any way to get multiple clients working in gladish (specifically guitarix) or if there's any work going into that, and also the menu editor doesn't seem to work.  I tried installing gufw firewall and it hasn't shown up in the menu and also I tried adding clam chordata (check it out if you're a guitarist/singer/songwriter) to the audio secti
[10:03] <millerthegorilla> on and it refuses to put it there.
[10:04] <zequence> millerthegorilla: You might need to logout and login again to see changes in the menu
[10:05] <zequence> GuruPilgrim: The whole purpose of ladish is to be able save sessions where you have multiple clients running at the same time
[10:05] <zequence> Sorry..
[10:05] <zequence> That was meant for millerthegorilla
[10:07] <millerthegorilla> yh, I know that and its great but guitarix is a multiple client app, it has a separate amp and effects client.  The amp has a mono input and the effects have a stereo output and so it is necessary to be able to see both clients for connections in gladish.  Since I want to use guitarix for live work at some point, I would like to be able to have different gladish rooms with different guitarix setups for the different venues/songs etc.
[10:08] <zequence> millerthegorilla: I don't use guitarix much, but if you can't find a way to do that, please add a post about it on LAU
[10:09] <zequence> millerthegorilla: Or contact the developer directly
[10:09] <zequence> I'm sure the developer(s) and other people as well might be interested in such features to be implemented, if not already existing
[10:09] <zequence> millerthegorilla: LAU = linux audio user mail list
[10:09] <millerthegorilla> I saw something on the internet but it was a hack.  I haven't started to look yet since I installed but as soon as I find it I'll post it on lau.
[10:10] <millerthegorilla> Is there a studio dev channel for the menu issue?
[10:10] <zequence> millerthegorilla: Did you logout and login again to check if it changed?
[10:10] <millerthegorilla> yh
[10:10] <zequence> millerthegorilla: Yes, there's a -dev mail list. But you can post anywhere. Here is fine too
[10:10] <millerthegorilla> cheers.
[10:10] <zequence> or, -devel rather
[10:11] <millerthegorilla> I tried putting the clam chordata into the audio section and it created the shortcut in the 'Other' section instead.
[10:12] <millerthegorilla> I tried it with another program as well and it doesn't seem to be working.
[10:12] <zequence> millerthegorilla: I guess none of use have tried using the menu editor. We do the editing from a config file
[10:12] <zequence> We should look into that
[10:12] <millerthegorilla> Can you remind me where the menu config file is?  Is it xdg?
[10:19] <zequence> Just as I was about to say something..
[12:56] <gaetano_> hello eveyone, i got ubuntustudio 12.10 and enabling the 3d cube in compiz, it doesnt work. why?
[13:02] <gaetano_> does anyone knows if in ubuntustudio is possible to enabling compiz effects like 3d cube ect..???
[13:06] <zequence> gaetano_: Personally, I haven't been using Compiz for a while. So, can't give you any advice on that
[13:07] <zequence> You could ask on some other channels as well
[13:08] <zequence> gaetano_: I googled a bit, and found this http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-set-up-compiz-in-xubuntu-1210-or.html
[13:08] <gaetano_> zequence: thanks!!
[14:33] <gaetano_> does anyone use compiz effects? because i have some questions..
[15:17] <holstein> gaetano_: i have
[15:17] <holstein> gaetano_: i dont consider it worth it these days.. not in xfce
[15:17] <holstein> im using xcompmgr on my netbook
[15:30] <millerthegorilla> hey, I've been using ubuntu for a couple of years now and am becoming reasonably proficient at using it.  Can I ask, does anyone know why the ubuntu repositories in the software centre are always so outdated?
[15:33] <holstein> millerthegorilla: ?
[15:33] <holstein> millerthegorilla: they are just the default repos for that release
[15:33] <holstein> millerthegorilla: packages get updates, but mostly security fixes
[15:34] <holstein> backporting can happen, to get a newer version of ardour to an older LTS version or ubuntu, for example
[15:35] <holstein> millerthegorilla: what you might be tryig to ask is, why is ubuntu not a rolling release?
[15:35] <holstein> since there are so many different versions and distros available, you might want to identify what you are looking for, and try and get the version that fits your needs
[15:36] <holstein> OR, utilizing the open-ness of ubuntu, you can always provide newer packages via ppa's.. or maintain your own repositories
[15:36] <millerthegorilla> erm, most of the versions available in the software centre are out of date by at least one major version.  Its just an observation but I've started to go through the homepages of software when I 've been installing packages and downloading them from the internet as either debs or by adding the ppa.  All my games come from playdeb and a few apps from getdeb.com for instance, and these are all 1 version in advance.  The ubuntu software centre
[15:36] <millerthegorilla> is famous for being at least 6 months out of date.  I just wondered if anyone knew why this was.  The launchpad ppa system updates to the latest stable release automatically and I thoought the software centre would as well since it's such an integral part of the system.
[15:36] <holstein> millerthegorilla: they *will* be behing
[15:37] <holstein> millerthegorilla: they will be the version that was stable when that version of ubuntu released
[15:37] <holstein> 12.04... in april of 2012.. whatever versions were stable then, those are the versions that are "locked" in the repos
[15:37] <holstein> and recieve security upgrades
[15:37] <millerthegorilla> so users have to wait for the next stable release of the os before getting the latest stable versions of apps?
[15:37] <holstein> millerthegorilla: you dont have to do anything
[15:38] <holstein> millerthegorilla: you can choose to upgrade to the lateset version
[15:38] <holstein> millerthegorilla: you can buid your own applications
[15:38] <holstein> you can search for, or create your own ppa's
[15:38] <holstein> you can use a distro that is more of a rolling release
[15:39] <holstein> linux mind debian edition was trying to scratch that itch... not sure how well it it doing.. last i looked it was still new
[15:39] <holstein> millerthegorilla: i would start this way.. what are you looking for?
[15:39] <holstein> if you want a newer version than what is in the default repos.. what are you looking for?
[15:40] <holstein> one of the benifits of a frozen release like ubuntu does is stability.. that is the trade off
[15:40] <millerthegorilla> that's cool.  Thanks, I'm a developer anyway, but I thought that one of the major advantages of the software center was that it could tunnel to the canonical server and there would be less or even minimal chance of man in the middle attacks, which are becoming more frequent.
[15:41] <millerthegorilla> Now I'm downloading all of my stuff from the internet I am equivalent to windows with regards to that benefit of the linux repo system
[15:41] <holstein> i wouldnt be any more concerned about a mim attack for package management.. i rarely do that off my home network anyways...
[15:43] <holstein> for the 12.04 LTS release.. security upgrades and provided for 5 years... that system will be as stable as possible for 5 years
[15:43] <holstein> those applications will likely be out of date and old by then
[15:43] <holstein> BUT, if you deploy in a buisness environment, that might be a good trade off for you
[15:43] <holstein> a stable system for 5 years without any big changes to applications
[15:44] <millerthegorilla> thanks.  Does anyone know if there are any good tutorials on hydrogen available or if there are any other good drum sequencers available.  I am about to record an album with ubu studio and I am a singer songwriter who plays guitar, harmonica, didjeridoo along with a couple of other instruments including bass but don't have any drums.  A couple of my songs require full arrangements so I could do with drums but I don't have the first clue on h
[15:44] <millerthegorilla> ow to set it up.
[15:44] <holstein> its pretty self explanitory.. i would ask in #opensourcemusicians .. or just get a specific question about how to use it
[15:45] <holstein> i just fired up jack and tested h2 a few times.. it just worked... i tested a few "big mono" drum kits as well
[15:51] <gaetano_> holstein: enabling the effects like 3d cube, the effect doesnt work. do u know what could it be?
[15:51] <holstein> gaetano_: settings.. config
[15:51] <holstein> gaetano_: i messed around for about 4 hours once, and got all the gnome2 compiz stuff working in 12.04 under xfce
[15:52] <holstein> all i can say is, it was 'hacky' and unstable.. and not worth it
[15:52] <holstein> gaetano_: you have to set the desktop settings different places
[15:52] <holstein> gaetano_: also, you have to see what has been changed to make unity work with compiz and change those settings back.. like allowing for the dock on the left side
[15:53] <holstein> gaetano_: the days of cubes and fire were great! i miss them.. but those days are over
[15:53] <holstein> gaetano_: can you? sure.. but you'll need to *really* get into the config... and it wont ever be gnome2
[22:13] <ubuntu-studio> ...


[08:44] <pat_> bonjour
[08:44] <pat_> je debute sur un raspberry pi 3
[08:45] <pat_> je n'arrive pas a avoir du son
[08:45] <pat_> est-ce que quelqu'un peut m'aider
[08:48] <pat_> hello
[08:48] <pat_> can you help me
[08:49] <Akuli> i have no experience at all with raspberry pi's
[08:50] <Akuli> does your sound work with other operating systems than ubuntu mate?
[08:55] <pat_> no sound
[08:56] <Akuli> yes, i got thta
[08:56] <Akuli> that
[08:56] <Akuli> if you try something else than ubuntu mate do you then have sound?
[08:56] <pat_> i dont understand
[08:56] <Akuli> https://translate.google.com
[08:56] <pat_> i try with raspbian and no sound two
[08:56] <Akuli> ok
[08:57] <pat_> only with retropie, i have a sound
[08:58] <Akuli> copy/paste to terminal:   ls /proc/asound | nc termbin.com 9999
[08:59] <pat_> and ?
[08:59] <Akuli> did you get a link?
[08:59] <Akuli> paste that here
[09:00] <pat_> http://termbin.com/done
[09:00] <pat_> http://termbin.com/dvob
[09:01] <Akuli> seems like ubuntu mate is just not detecting your sound card
[09:01] <Akuli> which is the part of your raspberry pi with the jack
[09:02] <pat_> how i can fix it
[09:02] <Akuli> what does this say?  sudo cat /boot/config.txt | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:03] <Akuli> (experienced users: sorry about sudo, i have no idea if regular users can view that file)
[09:03] <pat_> http://termbin.com/wkkm
[09:03] <Akuli> do you want to get your audio through a hdmi cable?
[09:04] <Akuli> or through something else?
[09:04] <pat_> yes with hdmi cable
[09:04] <Akuli> run this:   sudo nano /boot/config.txt
[09:05] <Akuli> press page down until you get a line that says #hdmi_drive=2
[09:05] <Akuli> remove the # from it
[09:05] <pat_> ok but i dont know how i can remove the #
[09:05] <Akuli> you found the line?
[09:06] <Akuli> go to the begininning of it and press the delete key on your keyboard
[09:06] <pat_> wait
[09:07] <Akuli> actually lets not do that
[09:07] <Akuli> press Ctrl+X to get out of the editor and say no if it wants to save something
[09:07] <Akuli> then run this:   sudo sed -i 's/#hdmi_drive=2/hdmi_drive=2/g' lulz
[09:07] <Akuli> i mean
[09:07] <Akuli> sudo sed -i 's/#hdmi_drive=2/hdmi_drive=2/g' /boot/config.txt
[09:08] <pat_> i search the line #hdmi_drive=2
[09:08] <Akuli> the other command will do it for you
[09:08] <Akuli> just exit out of there and we'll get this done
[09:10] <pat_> i try the other command
[09:10] <Akuli> ok :)
[09:10] <Akuli> the second one
[09:10] <Akuli> sudo sed -i 's/#hdmi_drive=2/hdmi_drive=2/g' /boot/config.txt
[09:11] <Akuli> it looks like it does nothing if it works
[09:12] <pat_> nothing
[09:12] <Akuli> then reboot and you have sound :)
[09:16] <pat_> thank you Akul
[09:16] <pat_> Akuli
[09:16] <pat_> i have ths sound
[09:16] <pat_> your the boss
[09:16] <Akuli> here's my cheat sheet https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=111506
[09:19] <pat_> :-)
[12:27] <ubuntu-mate> i am wondering if anyone can tell me how to install linux o a nexus 7?
[12:28] <ubuntu-mate> on*
[13:13] <thefhurer> Hello !
[13:32] <Guest4807> best themes for mate pls..
[13:32] <Guest4807> If possible, show your desktops via screenshot
[15:07] <eugene_> good evening to all mates ))
[15:19] <arjunsss> hello
[15:19] <arjunsss> community
[21:51] <sfarber> There seems to be a problem with Mate 16.10 software update. My internet connection is working perfectly but the system thinks there is a connection problem and will not update.
[21:52] <bekks> sfarber: And whats the output of "sudo apt update"?
[21:55] <sfarber> I'll check. Will be right back.
[21:56] <sfarber> I got a whole lot of "could not resolves" and other errors too numerous to detail easily.
[21:57] <bekks> sfarber: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[21:58] <sfarber> Yes.
[21:58] <bekks> sfarber: can you ping www.google.com ?
[21:58] <sfarber> I have direct access to it.
[21:58] <bekks> So you can ping it?
[21:59] <sfarber> apparently not
[21:59] <bekks> Then fix your DNS.
[22:00] <sfarber> Thanks. I'll get back when it's done. This is a fresh install of 16.10 that threw a bunch of strange messages, claimed it wouldn't boot and then booted so I'm a bit confused by it's behaviour.
[22:09] <sfarber> Thank you, bekks. I suspected that but was unsure. The reload from DVD was really strange. It looks like it is ok, now.
[22:09] <bekks> Just fixing DNS would have been enough :)
[23:01] <fbonte> hi all


[15:35] <gouchi> hi
[15:36] <gouchi> is it possible to install a snap package directly on snappy ?
[15:36] <gouchi> I need to make some test before submitting
[15:37] <gouchi> like snappy install XXX.snap ?
[15:37] <gouchi> it is not valid
[15:41] <vejmarie> good afternoon everybody
[17:41] <dougb> On BeagleBone Black only ttyO0, the console serial, is enabled. How do I enable the other available serial ports in Snappy?
[18:48] <vejmarie> hello
[18:48] <vejmarie> any idea on how long the manual review process takes ?
[19:26] <sethj> gouchi snap install XXX.snap
[19:27] <gouchi> sethj: using ubuntu snappy
[19:27] <gouchi> sethj: there is no snap command
[19:27] <sethj> gouchi does that not work on snappy? oh.
[19:27] <gouchi> sethj: only snappy command
[19:27] <sethj> ah.
[19:28] <gouchi> sethj: I tried to do it on Ubuntu Desktop but you can't right now as there is an issue with live usb
[22:37] <sethj> is snappy playpen happening tomorrow or on the 7th?
[22:37] <sethj> The blog post says the 7th, but Google sent me a reminder for tomorrow..