[00:10] <gonzalo__> HOLAS
[00:15] <moses> so 50
[00:15] <moses> 15 with /
[00:15] <moses> 35 with home?
[00:16] <moses> will that be good for ubuntu OS on my laptop for coding purposes
[00:16] <rypervenche> moses: Unless you have a specific reason for it, I usually keep my / and /home on the same partition.
[00:16] <rypervenche> At times you can run out of space in / and it causes issues. Or vice versa.
[00:16] <moses> ok so all in one
[00:16] <moses> but
[00:16] <moses> is 50 good enough
[00:17] <moses> or more?
[00:17] <rypervenche> moses: Are you allocating 50?
[00:17] <Bray90820> Can someone help me I am having an issue with my samba share
[00:17] <moses> im repartitioning a disk with windows on it to install ubuntu
[00:17] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=igVdBxrw
[00:17] <moses> \j #gnome
[00:18] <rypervenche> moses: It really depends on what you will be putting on it.
[00:18] <moses> just installing compilers
[00:18] <moses> coding things i guess
[00:18] <rypervenche> moses: You could get away with 10, but you wouldn't be able to put much on there. 20 would be enough for a system with nothing big going on it. 50 to be safe maybe.
[00:19] <moses> hmmm
[00:19] <moses> now you are making me think 50 isnt enough
[00:20] <rypervenche> You can do 10 for a system that doesn't have anything growing on it. If you are putting code on there that won't be taking up much space, you could do fine with 20. But if you have space to spare, go with 50.
[00:22] <fullstack> how do I increase file limits in ubuntu system wide so chrom doesn't crash every 5 minutes
[00:22] <rypervenche> moses: Again, it all depends on what you plan on putting on it.
[00:22] <fullstack> I looked in /etc/security/limits.conf but there isn't any max-file=
[00:22] <moses> nothing but installing things like compilers
[00:22] <moses> ill keep all the data on the other part of the disk
[00:22] <rypervenche> fullstack: It's the ulimit -o bit, if that is really what the problem is.
[00:23] <fullstack> rypervenche, yeah I want to set it system wide to<PHONE_NUMBER>9999^99999999999999
[00:23] <rypervenche> fullstack: ....
[00:23] <rypervenche> fullstack: It's "nofile" in your limits.conf
[00:23] <rypervenche> fullstack: man limits.conf
[00:24] <moses> do you think ubuntu will use less battery than windows?
[00:24] <rypervenche> fullstack: If Chrome is causing you to hit that limit, then you're doing it wrong.
[00:24] <fullstack> Ok
[00:25] <JohnnyL> i just installed ubuntu to a 4096 byte sector externel hard disk. but if i try to boot all i get i a text cursor at the upper right part of a black screen. what should I do?
[00:25] <fullstack> well care to tell me why? Or am I suppose to just nod and somehow magic fairy fix it
[00:27] <Bray90820> So I have a samba server on ubuntu 14.04 and ubuntu 15.04 as the client and changed made on the server don't show up on the client and changes I make in the client don't show up on the server
[00:28] <JohnnyL> "The partition /dev/sdc1 assigned to / starts at an offset of 3584 bytes from the minmum alighnment for this disk. install show stopper.
[00:30] <JohnnyL> i literally cannot install to this new hard drive.
[00:35] <JohnnyL> it wants a 512 block size but my physical block size is 4096.
[00:35] <JohnnyL> now i'm getting this error with ubuntu.
[00:35] <torking> trying to find 12.04 repository that works
[00:36] <torking> there isn't one on old-releases
[00:36] <torking> working with legacy application that requires 12.04
[00:37] <JohnnyL> Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
[00:37] <JohnnyL> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
[00:37] <JohnnyL> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 33553920 bytes
[00:37] <JohnnyL> Alignment offset: 512 bytes
[00:39] <allizom> JohnnyL: do you have other OSes/data on that disk?
[00:39] <JohnnyL> allizom: it came new with ntfs. but I since removed it.
[00:40] <JohnnyL> i'm reinstalling ubuntu again (i got past the error with mkfs.ext4 -b 4096 /dev/sdx
[00:40] <JohnnyL> but it didn't boot last time.
[00:40] <JohnnyL> all i got was a black screen with a small cursor in the upper right of the screen.
[00:40] <Bashing-om> moses: My example of a very very sparse "work" install : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11813191/ ; as an idea of what you might so .
[00:40] <ging> when a bunch of packages are all built from one main package, is there a name for that?
[00:42] <Bashing-om> ging: The term I see is "meta-package" .
[00:43] <Bashing-om> !metapackage
[00:52] <ging> Bashing-om: not quite what i meant
[00:55] <ging> eg openssl you get libssl1.0.0 libssl-dev libssl-doc and openssl (plus various others) they all come out of the same source package
[00:57] <Hobbet1> i have a hp laptop with windows 7 and want to dual boot it with lubuntu but the only option its giving me is to erase the harddrive and not being able to dual boot can you help me please
[00:57] <brmph> Hobbet1: You have four primary partitions most likely, you on ubuntu now?
[00:58] <Hobbet1> no but i will follow your instructions as i have a great memory
[00:58] <Hobbet1> yes it does have 4 partitions brmph
[01:00] <brmph> Hobbet1: On  a single HD you can have 4 primaries or 3 primaries with and extended which can have logicals within.
[01:00] <brmph> an not and*
[01:00] <Hobbet1> ok got that
[01:01] <brmph> Hobbet1: Cool, you probably have a tiny firmware partiton which can be put back in a partition in the extended along with the logicals for ubuntu, and a swap.
[01:02] <brmph> Hobbet1: I'm assuming a manufacturer install.
[01:02] <Hobbet1> yes this is hp oem
[01:04] <brmph> Hobbet1: So you can keep all the partitions if you want, just a little messing around.
[01:04] <Hobbet1> easy is a good thing whichever is easiest brmph lol
[01:05] <brmph> Hobbet1: Some just image the windows and remove the backup partition as well, you have options.
[01:05] <brmph> or rather tha as well
[01:07] <Hobbet1> since i have the dvds as backup then probably removing the backup partition would be easy
[01:08] <brmph> Hobbet1: you have a boot for windows the backup a recovery disc?
[01:09] <Hobbet1> yes i have a recovery disk to set it back to manufacture set
[01:10] <brmph> Hobbet1: cool, good tool to have.
[01:10] <Hobbet1> so you recommend to delete the backup partition and then do the install
[01:11] <brmph> Hobbet1: I can't say what's best, only that be sure you can fix whatever you do
[01:12] <brmph> if needed ;
[01:12] <Hobbet1> yes i can reinstall windows 7 if i need to brmph
[01:13] <Hobbet1> brmph will lubuntu try and install where the backup partition was or will it create a new partition??
[01:13] <brmph> Hobbet1: Good, your welcome to ask for more info here others might have some ideas.
[01:15] <brmph> Hobbet1: I'm not sure where on the HD that partition is, you need an extended in it's place and logicals inside, I would do a manual something else install personally.
[01:16] <Hobbet1> i am >< that close from just dumping windows 7 brmph lol
[01:17] <brmph> Hobbet1: You might get some support here for that.
[01:17] <Hobbet1> lol
[01:22] <moses> Bashing-om: did you allocate space for each
[01:27] <zaragon> I'm [retty much a newbie to linux.  Have a Sony Viao circa 2007.  Can I erase everything on HD and install Ubuntu?  Do I have to go back to Sony for drivers?
[01:28] <acro_> It depends on hardware but it should be fine.
[01:28] <moses> i cant resize my partition :/
[01:28] <somsip> zaragon: try the live CD and see if the supplied drivers run everything ok. If they do, you're *probably* good to go
[01:29] <zaragon> Thanks somsip...sounds like good and logical advice
[01:30] <somsip> zaragon: good to do some general searches for your vaio model to see if there are issues. Maybe do an install to USB if you want to double check
[01:33] <zaragon> Not meant in a mean way, somsip.....was a programmer long ago and far away...I can take it from here.....Live CD is sort of a foreign concept..thanks for advice
[01:34] <acro_> I am having issues syncing my iPhone music using Rhythmbox and Banshee.
[01:35] <acro_> When i sync my iphone 5s, it shows it has successfully synced in the program, but when i disconnect the device, the content does not show in my music.
[01:36] <acro_> The software appear to sync fine and finish successfully. The music appears on them. The iPhone however does not show m music after the sync. When i replug my device the software cease to show the music as well. My storage usage on my iPhone does go up, so it seems to have actually copied the files.
[01:36] <acro_> How do I get my iPhone to detect my synced music?
[01:40] <sudoMatt> In Ubuntu 15.04, how do I open a folder as root in File Manager?
[01:40] <SchrodingersScat> gksudo nautilus ?
[01:41] <sudoMatt> bah, sudo nautilus worked
[01:41] <sudoMatt> thanks
[01:41] <sudoMatt> new guy
[01:41] <SchrodingersScat> !gksudo
[01:42] <sudoMatt> Thanks, reading it now
[01:59] <D30> hello, anyone heard about centminmod?.. i am actually looking for equivalent/counterpart for ubuntu/debian based
[02:09] <talha> Sa
[02:09] <talha> Hi
[02:10] <smoke_> hello
[02:10] <jmadero> D30: I've never heard of it but...can't you just use it in Ubuntu?
[02:11] <D30> hmmnn im not really sure, i think its for Centos..
[02:11] <smoke_> any one that migh help me
[02:11] <jmadero> D30: ...Linux is Linux ;)
[02:11] <D30> yeah but i think its uses is primarily for centos
[02:12] <smoke_> how to install kodi for Ubuntu
[02:12] <jmadero> smoke_: ... google that
[02:12] <jmadero> you'll have an answer in 10 seconds ;)
[02:12] <mgolisch> ubuntu should have kodi packages and the kodi team has a ppa too
[02:14] <smoke_> i see disk casper isolina pressed
[02:14] <jmadero> smoke_: literally....10 second google check
[02:15] <jmadero> first hit - http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Install_Kodi_for_Linux
[02:15] <smoke_> ok
[02:15] <jmadero> we're here to help but sometimes you need to help yourself....no offense
[02:15] <jmadero> the google search I put in "install kodi ubuntu"
[02:15] <smoke_> ok
[02:16] <smoke_> were do i find volume  control
[02:16] <jmadero> smoke_: top right
[02:17] <jmadero> should have an icon (speaker looking thing)
[02:17] <jmadero> smoke_: you can also use the unity search thing for "volume" and you'll see "Sound"
[02:27] <b3n_ubuntu> hi ubuntu guys .. is it possible to make custom iso within Live ISO session ? I'm trying to do this using remastersys tool but it's asking for vmlinuz which is missing from /boot folder
[02:27] <brmph> !uck | b3n_ubuntu
[02:29] <b3n_ubuntu> but is it possible even if I'm doing it within a Live session cd ?
[02:30] <brmph> b3n_ubuntu: Theoretically yes I believe, it may just be ubuntu live iso's is all, takes some processing energy, so live may not be best with a gui.
[02:32] <b3n_ubuntu> uck? does create iso using the current installed files or config? what i did is to remove programs i don't want to see on my custom iso, and remastersys tool does that ..
[02:33] <brmph> b3n_ubuntu: Sure, uck was just a sugestion.
[02:34] <brmph> b3n_ubuntu: I believe uck would do this with an iso, not your boot.
[02:35] <b3n_ubuntu> i've tried uck but it always give me this error "File 1404.iso does not exist" when selecting iso ..
[02:38] <matschaffer> can anyone help shed any light on why apt-get would be able to see a candidate, but not install it? https://gist.github.com/matschaffer/9a87dd760eda1ce5d0d0
[02:38] <cfhowlett> matschaffer, items in git are NOT in the apt normal repos, so apt-get wouldn't be the correct install tool
[02:39] <Bashing-om> moses: Yes, I do pre-partiton for my use case. Partitioning can be an art in it's own right . My example is very tight and requires a constant eye on things .
[02:39] <matschaffer> cfhowlett: it’s not in git though
[02:46] <matschaffer> `dpkg --compare-versions 0.29-105 gt 0.29-103` even reports that the numbers compare correctly
[02:54] <Yukkii> So..I've set the static IP in the interfaces file, and ifconfig shows that it's correct, but I can't ping it?
[02:54] <somsip> Yukkii: paste your interfaces file using pastebin
[02:55] <Yukkii> And how to copy a file via ssh?
[02:55] <somsip> Yukkii: edit it, highlight with mouse, click into pastebin
[02:55] <agent_white> Yukkii: scp or rsync
[02:56] <Yukkii> Oh, seems we made a typo
[02:56] <Yukkii> Nevermind then
[03:01] <leoarg> hola
[03:01] <leoarg> hello
[03:02] <matschaffer> even bumping to 0.30-106, apt-get install still refuses to install it
[03:04] <linuxuz3r> what is hg?
[03:06] <matschaffer> linuxuz3r: probably https://mercurial.selenic.com/
[03:07] <Yukkii> somsip: k, still not working https://i.gyazo.com/9f3327387aa7f312e81f91732805fdba.png
[03:08] <Yukkii> er
[03:08] <Yukkii> Scratch that
[03:08] <Yukkii> >_>
[03:08] <linuxuz3r> thanks matschaffer
[03:09] <DoYouKnow> guys, I found a MAJOR bug in VMware + the workspace switcher in ubuntu 14.04.2
[03:10] <DoYouKnow> basically, you can end up in a state where the vm's input is captured and the workspace captures the input simultaneously
[03:10] <DoYouKnow> and it's impossible to escape
[03:13] <cfhowlett> !but | DoYouKnow submit the bug report?
[03:13] <cfhowlett> !bug
[03:15] <OerHeks> bug in vmware, likely
[03:21] <moses> ok so logical partition? ext4 journaling file system? mount point: /?
[03:23] <brmph> moses: You have an extended to contain?
[03:23] <brmph> or this efi
[03:23] <moses> i have allowed disk space from a prior windows installation
[03:23] <moses> should i make a swap partition?
[03:24] <brmph> moses: I have not followed your quest, so can't confirm what you need.
[03:24] <moses> I have 100 gigs of free space
[03:24] <moses> i want to dual boot ubuntu with winsows
[03:25] <moses> the install cd is in and its asking me how to partition this 100 gigs
[03:25] <brmph> moses: This a dualboot, any partitions there now?
[03:25] <moses> just the windows and the factory restore
[03:25] <moses> for that windows
[03:26] <moses> so yes 2
[03:26] <brmph> moses: So 3 ntfs and 100gig unallocated?
[03:26] <moses> 2
[03:26] <brmph> moses: No boot partition for widows?
[03:26] <brmph> windows*
[03:27] <moses> idk
[03:27] <moses> only 2
[03:27] <moses> i deleted one because it was blank and said it wasnt involved with windows
[03:27] <brmph> moses: open a terminal and run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the info
[03:27] <zerga> cc
[03:27] <moses> i dont have ubuntu installed yet
[03:27] <moses> just windows
[03:28] <moses> can i run a terminal off of the installation disk?
[03:28] <brmph> moses: this is from the live to see the partitions
[03:28] <moses> rgr
[03:28] <brmph> ;)
[03:31] <moses> wait
[03:31] <brmph> !pastebinit | moses No prob, you can send it to the net with this
[03:31] <moses> i have a terminal open with this irssi in an ssh and i also ssh from the laptop with the life disk but its not letting me open the screen session
[03:32] <moses> http://pastebin.com/Nn1xTcBJ
[03:32] <moses> well there it is
[03:34] <brmph> moses: Cool 2 partitions, both primaries, if you want logical to have multi partitions you just need an extended, I would make a swap.
[03:35] <moses> i ran free -m
[03:35] <moses> it says ~6 gigs
[03:35] <moses> should i make the swap 12 gigs?
[03:36] <brmph> moses: NO mre that slightly more than 6, probably less, depends on if you hibernate and use alot of ram.
[03:36] <moses> this will just be for coding
[03:36] <brmph> moses: Never coded here so have no idea.
[03:36] <brmph> simple stuff is all anyway
[03:37] <moses> 8 gigs as a swap
[03:37] <brmph> sure, you can always adjust if needed.
[03:37] <donofrio> anyone know how I would join the Xorg/gdm's of these sticks to act as one desktop https://insights.ubuntu.com/?p=14712 at that price I'd like to get six and hook one up to each monitor like I do right now ( http://tinyurl.com/standingeatingsalidatwork2015 ) but instead of three dual head workstation I'd have six cpu's...
[03:40] <zerga> cc
[03:51] <JohnnyL> Why does my new externel drive block all other processes. I am getting a nice 41Mps, but all else is blocked while xfers are taking place. http://pastebin.com/MwjSxZ7U
[03:51] <JohnnyL> ?
[03:52] <JohnnyL> ls /sys/block/sdb/queue/physical_block_size
[03:52] <JohnnyL> reads 4096.
[03:53] <donofrio> anyone use more than one workstation at a time?
[03:57] <agent_white> donofrio: I use synergy.
[03:57] <agent_white> donofrio: It lets me use mouse/keyboard across desktops.
[03:57] <matschaffer> omg, found it. Thank got for apt-get download; dpkg -i
[03:57] <matschaffer> now to figure out why this new pkg depends on a different libstdc++6
[03:58] <donofrio> I use synergy too hence my one keyboard and mouse paper stacks
[03:59] <donofrio> but I am looking for how to join the xorgs together......
[04:00] <agent_white> donofrio: Ohhh. Hm. So something like... RandR? or Xinerama?
[04:00]  * agent_white shrugs
[04:01] <donofrio> agent_white: right but how and does anyone else run like this (I like to distribute processes between workstations)
[04:03] <agent_white> donofrio: So you're looking to do build a cluster for distributed computing? Or?
[04:04] <agent_white> As in, you want to start a program on any workstation, and have it jump to any workstation with lower load or something?
[04:04] <donofrio> sorta it's a distributed work environment - I manually distrubute the load but I have six displays driven by three workstations currently, with these "sticks" I'd like to finnly have one desktop that is six wide....
[04:04] <agent_white> Really, you need programs specifically tuned to do so.
[04:05] <donofrio> agent_white: not looking for load balenceing I do that myself....just want one screen using sticks to keep cost down....and they don't take up any space///
[04:05] <donofrio> 100$*6 = awesome daily driver setup...
[04:07] <dom_> I installed Ubuntu with XFCE on a Toshiba Chromebook 2 and have no sound. Any ideas how I can fix this?
[04:07] <cfhowlett> !sound | dom_
[04:08] <dom_> thanks cfhowlett!
[04:09] <agent_white> donofrio: Hm. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with the sticks at all so I can't really help :/ Goodluck though!
[04:10] <donofrio> agent_white: this is the right side profile view of me using my "daily driver" http://picpaste.com/pics/ITZsodqT.1435896523.jpg perhaps gives you the ablity to see how would be nice to move from three workstations to six sticks with bridged xorg
[04:10] <donofrio> sticks aside to you ever 'bridge' your desktop displays?
[04:13] <grahamsavage_> hey i've got a very big usability issue day to day when dealing with terminal
[04:14] <grahamsavage_> i often have about 8 - 12 terminal windows open at the same time. when i switch away from them they disappear.... but to get them back i have to manually select each one, one by one to bring them to the foreground
[04:14] <grahamsavage_> is there anyway of forcing all terminal windows to come to the foreground
[04:14] <grahamsavage_> alt-~ doesn't really work
[04:15] <vfw> grahamsavage_: What DE do you use?
[04:15] <agent_white> donofrio: Ah!  And nope, I just use synergy and run applications tied to each machine.
[04:16] <agent_white> donofrio: but... maybe this could help? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extreme_Multihead -- don't mind it being the archlinux wiki, as it applies to linux as a whole.
[04:16] <vfw> grahamsavage_: Unity?
[04:16] <agent_white> donofrio: Checkout the bottom with "xdmx"
[04:16] <grahamsavage_> vfw: yeah unity
[04:16] <vfw> grahamsavage_: Try xfce
[04:17] <FatBastard> Whats up people how you chillen?
[04:17] <vfw> grahamsavage_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:17] <FatBastard> !rm
[04:18] <grahamsavage_> vfw: is it nicer than unity?
[04:18] <vfw> grahamsavage_: It's different
[04:18] <ileonic> hello
[04:18] <vfw> grahamsavage_: (it's what I use)
[04:19] <cassio3> hey, I know this is slightly OT
[04:19] <ileonic> i thik i tis nicer than unity but how much does it wehitg
[04:19] <cassio3> but are there any copiers that support smb 2?
[04:20] <syntroPi> what would be the equivalent option in ~/ssh/config to ssh -t <hostname> "screen -S foo -rd || screen -S foo"? E.g. whats the name for "-t" in .ssh/config?
[04:20] <FatBastard> Whats up people how you chillen?
[04:20] <donofrio> yah reading tnx hope they have .deb files somewhere, cause I do not want to go back to manually editing the xorg config....nope not again I've spent weeks tweaking in the past no more
[04:21] <vfw> Fat and happy
[04:25] <ileonic> hey how do i activate the xubuntu desktop
[04:25] <ileonic> so i have to reboot
[04:25] <agent_white> donofrio: Just... be sure to make backups :D
[04:26] <vfw> ileonic: Yea.  Or just log out and back in again, and choose xfce as your DE.
[04:26] <ileonic> trying
[04:26] <ileonic> thanks
[04:26] <vfw> ileonic: (The login manager is where you choose your DE.
[04:28] <donofrio> agent_white: not doing that again....I mean I spent a month one time trying to get my matrox parhella working on a linux build it needed too much work to get them all working right....felt like getting cups working years ago...90 min later "I got it" and the windows users are like "so.." facepalm....
[04:30] <agent_white> Hahah
[04:32] <leonic> i just dowloaded nero linux if i make a bootable dvd whit linux mate and other distros  wiill i have a problem _
[04:38] <Hadish> PRIVMSG Hamide salam
[04:38] <Hamide> PRIVMSG Hadish Hello
[04:43] <Bray90820_> can someone explain these weird file names
[04:43] <Bray90820_> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Name.png
[05:22] <nextech> ?
[05:27] <shaji> installing odoo and further customization howto
[05:32] <shaji> Hello michal_ installing odoo and further customization howto
[05:34] <genewitch> so find has a -exec {command} but i am trying find / -name '*.txt' -exec {cat} and it's saying exec is missing an argument
[05:34] <genewitch> what am i doin wrong ?
[05:40] <jmadero> genewitch: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12902/how-to-run-find-exec
[05:51] <Bray90820_> Does ubuntu accept colons  in file names
[05:51] <agent_white> !tias
[05:52] <agent_white> :(
[05:52] <agent_white> Bray90820_: Try it and see!
[05:52] <croc> is there a non-buggy replacement for setfacl / getfacl i can use?
[05:54] <TJ-> croc: What bugs are you trying to avoid?
[05:54] <croc> oh god, where do i start...
[05:54] <crocket> How do I remove gnome in ubuntu gnome 15.04 and install mate instead?
[05:55] <crocket> I want to rid my system of gnome.
[05:55] <Bray90820_> agent_white: I am gonna assume it does and I am having another error
[05:55] <agent_white> Bray90820_: `touch "test:123"`
[05:55] <agent_white> Don't assume.
[05:55] <Bray90820_> Every time I add a colon in the file name the file becomes unreadable
[05:55] <croc> TJ-, if you have more than a specific number of ACLs on a file it silently fails, it doesn't have any error messages (i.e. anything doesn't work it will just through an error)    if a user doesn't exist it doesn't tell you, if a group doesn't exist it doesn't tell you
[05:56] <agent_white> Bray90820_: What do you mean by unreadable?
[05:56] <croc> basically if you run into any problem it turns into a "guess what the problem is"
[05:56] <croc> If there's not a replacement i think i'll have to write a wrapper which manually checks for all these things
[05:58] <moses> does anyone use screen?
[05:59] <moses> can I attach to the same session from multiple sockets?
[05:59] <Bray90820_> agent_white: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=y0WHB3p0
[06:00] <agent_white> Bray90820_: Change the single quotes to double quotes
[06:00] <TJ-> croc: I'm not aware of replacements. Does the command not return non-zero if those issues occur?
[06:01] <TJ-> croc: If those are bugs best to report them to https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?group=acl
[06:01] <Bray90820_> Same issue
[06:01] <Bray90820_> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SE2PA1Td
[06:01] <Bray90820_> And when I try to copy the file in the gui it says no such file or directory
[06:01] <Bray90820_> This is on a samba share if it matters
[06:03] <Bray90820_> agent_white:
[06:04] <agent_white> Bray90820_: What about doing the same on those other files?
[06:04] <agent_white> "title{01,02,03}.mkv" ?
[06:04] <Bray90820_> ls the other two fikes?
[06:04] <Bray90820_> files
[06:04] <Bray90820_> ?
[06:04] <agent_white> Yes
[06:04] <agent_white> 3 files
[06:05] <moses> well that didnt work out quite how I wanted it to
[06:05] <croc> TJ-: yeah it returns non 0, but it doesn't tell you what the error is
[06:05] <Bray90820_> agent_white: so I should ls all 3 of those files?
[06:06] <TJ-> croc: That does sound rather the GNU way :)
[06:06] <agent_white> Bray90820_: Each one. Just as you tried to the first.
[06:06] <Bray90820_> ok
[06:06] <croc> TJ_: it took me 8 hours to work out the it doesn't like more than x number of settings in the config file
[06:06] <croc> TJ-, it was something very small like 20
[06:07] <croc> TJ-, lol.. i'm the opposite .. every error that pops up is like "User "bla" is not found in the user list"   "missing configuration x in config file" etc
[06:07] <Bray90820_> agent_white: It worked
[06:07] <Bray90820_> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vz8cK9v2
[06:08] <Bray90820_> agent_white: It seems like once I add the colon everything goes bad
[06:09] <TJ-> croc: have you checked the source-code for clues as to a workaround, or explanation?
[06:09] <croc> TJ-: nah i don't code C
[06:11] <TJ-> croc: what's the error-code you get back from setfacl when it fails; lets see if I can find it in the source
[06:13] <Bray90820_> agent_white: Any idea?
[06:14] <croc> TJ-:   ok i got one   WORKING:   setfacl --modify user:$USER:rwx .
[06:14] <agent_white> Bray90820_: Just... rename the file?
[06:14] <agent_white> Then try again.
[06:14] <croc> TJ-:   setfacl --modify user:doesntwork:rwx .
[06:14] <croc> TJ-:   it gives:   setfacl: Option -m: Invalid argument near character 14 << genius :)
[06:14] <agent_white> Bray90820_: Is the file on an NTFS partition?
[06:18] <Bray90820_> The file is on an ext4 logicial volume on ubuntu 14.04
[06:18] <Bray90820_>  I can't rename the file
[06:18] <Bray90820_> agent_white:
[06:18] <Bray90820_> I can recreate the files but I am wondering why the colons are acting like this
[06:19] <agent_white> Bray90820_: Since you're in the directory... `mv "01 - 12:00 AM.mkv" ./000.mkv`
[06:20] <croc> TJ-, wow they seem to have fixed the invisible limit in 14:04  i just added 20 users and 10 groups and it's still working
[06:20] <Bray90820_> agent_white: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ywrHeu9A
[06:20] <shaji> installing odoo and further customization howto
[06:21] <agent_white> Bray90820_: Pastebin the output of `ll`
[06:22] <croc> TJ-, yeah just added 80 to one.. works fine
[06:22] <Bray90820_> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=L7r8C3CV
[06:22] <Bray90820_> agent_white: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=L7r8C3CV
[06:23] <TJ-> croc: Yay :)
[06:23] <bazhang> what is odoo shaji
[06:24] <agent_white> Bray90820_: `ls -li`
[06:24] <bazhang> !info odoo
[06:24] <bazhang> no such item shaji
[06:25] <Bray90820_> agent_white: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6JbxwpBg
[06:26] <agent_white> Bray90820_: `find . -inum 134086665 -exec mv {} 000.mkv \;`
[06:27] <Bray90820_> agent_white: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZCUxP8Nh
[06:28] <agent_white> Bray90820_: `find . -inum 134086665 -exec mv {} newFile.mkv \;`
[06:29] <agent_white> Bray90820_: What we're doing, is instead of moving the file to a new name in the same location VIA its current name, is targeting the file via its "inode number" instead.
[06:30] <agent_white> So basically, targeting it by it's location in the file system rather than its name.
[06:30] <agent_white> Now see if "newFIle.mkv" is in the directory.
[06:30] <agent_white> "newFile.mkv" rather
[06:32] <agent_white> Bray90820_: Any luck?
[06:32] <Bray90820_> agent_white: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xAjCLC4A
[06:33] <agent_white> Bray90820_: Success!
[06:33] <agent_white> Now `ls`
[06:33] <Bray90820_> agent_white: it worked
[06:33] <Bray90820_> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=v0vCzL8Z
[06:34] <agent_white> Bray90820_: Cheers :)
[06:34] <Bray90820_> agent_white: Why were the colons failing tho?
[06:34] <agent_white> Bray90820_: Again, look what I said above:  We did `ll -li` to see the inode numbers of the files/dirs in the directory, then used that inode number to manipulate the file rather than the filename.
[06:35] <jarray52> Is there a list of phones that support Ubuntu phone?
[06:35] <agent_white> Bray90820_: I have no idea.  Though I feel the colon wasn't the issue. Ccould be some oddball characters mixed in there
[06:35] <agent_white> Bray90820_: However, if you're on NTFS, the colon does make a big difference and is a "no-no".
[06:36] <Bray90820_> I am on a ext4 samba share
[06:36] <Bray90820_> Every time I add a colon no matter what file it seems to fail
[06:37] <agent_white> Aye... and Samba generally means you're interfacing with linux<->windows.  Even though this apparently wasn't the case, it's good to know.
[06:37] <agent_white> But also, in the future... NEVER use spaces in filenames. It's just asking for headache.
[06:37] <agent_white> And remember, a filename is just an alias to an inode (which is concrete and specific to that individual file).
[06:38]  * agent_white mumbles about soft/hardlinks and inodes and to look into those
[06:38] <agent_white> Bray90820_: Glad your problem is solved though :)
[06:39] <Bray90820_> agent_white: it's not really solved
[06:39] <agent_white> How so?
[06:39] <Bray90820_> I still can't add colons to file names
[06:39] <agent_white> You still _shouldn't_ add colons to file names.
[06:39] <agent_white> If you need to, then you need to rethink how you're naming.
[06:39] <agent_white> Otherwise you're asking for trouble.
[06:40] <Bray90820_> I am using the name that was on the DVD
[06:40] <Bray90820_> this is what i found when I looked at the server
[06:40] <agent_white> Well... don't! Haha.
[06:40] <Bray90820_> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Name.png
[06:40] <agent_white> Bray90820_: ...
[06:40] <agent_white> Bray90820_: Do you see the glaring issue now?
[06:42] <genewitch> is there really no way to send a direct message on github?
[06:42] <Bray90820> agent_white: yea i see that but why would It work on my desktop and not on the samba share
[06:43] <genewitch> Bray90820: ask cifs
[06:43] <agent_white> Bray90820: See that character? The one that looks like... a jellyfish?
[06:43] <genewitch> #cifs
[06:43] <Bray90820> Thanks
[06:43] <genewitch> agent_white: cthulu
[06:43] <Bray90820> agent_white: I see that
[06:43] <agent_white> Bray90820: That character is probably not supported by your terminal.
[06:43] <Bray90820> there both ubuntu so idk
[06:43] <agent_white> And nor should it EVER be allowed into a file name.
[06:43] <Bray90820> The client and server
[06:43] <agent_white> I do know. And I'm telling you. :P
[06:44] <Bray90820> Alright
[06:44] <Bray90820> I think I got it now
[06:44] <Bray90820> Thanks
[06:44] <agent_white> Bray90820: tl;dr that symbol shouldn't be in a file name. Don't let it name the files for you.
[06:44] <genewitch> agent_white: AFL names files in such a fashion that cifs breaks on certain clients
[06:44] <Bray90820> agent_white: I name it that it wasn't automatic :P
[06:44] <agent_white> genewitch: AFL, cifs? Not familiar with either. :P
[06:45] <genewitch> agent_white: "id:004843,src:004839+003299,op:splice,rep:64"
[06:45] <agent_white> Bray90820: Ah. Well... don't put that damned symbol, or any other crazy symbols in there... ever.
[06:45] <genewitch> american fuzzy lop, it's a fuzzing debugger
[06:45] <Bray90820> Alright
[06:45] <agent_white> genewitch: Ahhh.
[06:45] <genewitch> it's probably the coolest use of a computer i've seen recently
[06:45] <genewitch> cifs is samba
[06:45] <genewitch> mount -t cifs
[06:46] <agent_white> Ahhh. Huh.
[06:46] <Bray90820> agent_white: Thanks for your help
[06:47] <agent_white> Allowing those symbols though... is almost as terrible as non-breaking spaces. :P
[06:47] <agent_white> Bray90820: Cheers :)
[06:47] <Bray90820> Goodnight
[06:48] <agent_white> Night!
[06:48] <genewitch> hehe, i agree. Oddly enough, my CIFS server is linux, and so long as i used cifs mounts it worked fine. GVFS and windows couldn't read those file names like the example i gave. it would just be like id0023~4
[06:48] <genewitch> on windows, obviously ID0023~4
[06:49] <genewitch> so i had to shell script renaming everything to ascendingNumber.filetype and move that to cifs, then it worked fine
[06:50] <agent_white> Christ...
[06:50] <agent_white> What a pain in the ass! :P
[06:51] <agent_white> Sorry for language!
[07:25] <knightyyy> Hi.How can I remove gnome shell from my ubuntu 15.04 safely?(I installed ubuntu 15.04 and then Plasma and then Gnome-shell.but it seems like gnome-shell is causing a bit of conflict.)
[07:36] <Kartagis> I have a small issue. on both my laptop and my desktop, I have this 40gb of mp3 files, and I use clementine on both. while it always takes about 20 secs on desktop to find and play the song, it doesn't take this long on my laptop. why is that? speed of harddrives maybe?
[07:37] <Kartagis> I'm on 14.04 on both
[07:37] <somsip> Kartagis: use hdparm to compare speed if you want to investigate that
[07:39] <Kartagis> somsip: oh, I must add that the archive is in ~/Music on laptop, and in another partition on desktop. but that doesn't matter because it is the same even if I move it to ~/Music
[07:42] <knightyyy> just ordered apt to remove gnome-shell and then did an autoremove,lets hope I didn't ruin stuff.
[07:44] <nabdev> hey, any one here use ubuntu version >= 14.04 with Lenovo Z580 ? there is no propblem of compatibility ?
[07:45] <DJones_> nabdev: I've not got a z580, but this page may be helpful http://www.linlap.com/lenovo_ideapad_z580
[07:49] <Vido_> Is there Desktop enviroment for atom 1.7 which is dont use right-click everything
[07:51] <nikola_i> how do i debug my ubuntu 15.04. It doesn't wakeup from sleep
[07:52] <nabdev> nikola_i> i have the same with 14.04 may be it is graphic driver issue
[07:53] <Vido_> @nikola_i you need to monitor ttl dmesg
[08:08] <syntroPi>  is there any way to get both xterm scrollback and nano scrolling (mousewheel) inside a remote ssh screen session connected to gnome-terminal?  adding "termcapinfo xterm ti@:te@" to ~/.screenrc works for the scrollback buffer but breaks nano mousewheel scrolling...
[08:17] <fullstack> If my /etc/apt/sources.list gets corrupted how do I get a new one? 14.10 thanks
[08:17] <hackerboy> hi
[08:28] <leeyaa> hello
[08:29] <leeyaa> i am preparing a process list to regularly update a few production servers. i have staging environment with sort of a clone setup of production environment. is it possible to get list of updated packages on staging that are updated after security update and install the same packages on production ?
[08:29] <leeyaa> staging and production will have one week difference
[08:30] <Ben64> leeyaa: is there something wrong with 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?
[08:31] <leeyaa> Ben64: yes. i want to run the updates on staging for a week before applying on production
[08:31] <leeyaa> and i need only security updates
[08:36] <leeyaa> basically i am asking how to apply packages versions and list of packages from one server to another
[08:37] <somsip> leeyaa: just run unattended updates on security packages. I've been doing that on 12.04 and 14.04 for a few years with no problems
[08:37] <leeyaa> somsip: i was doing that for a while and it was breaking some services. not suitable for production
[08:37] <somsip> leeyaa: ...for security updates only...
[08:37] <leeyaa> sometimes it breaks stuff
[08:39] <somsip> leeyaa: hmmm. never had a problem doing this on production myself, but if that's your experience you may need to run some sort of CI tests daily on a staging server with alerts if they fail. If they dont fail, update the prod servers using scripts (ansible, chef, puppet, etc)
[08:39] <somsip> leeyaa: but that's not what you're asking directly...sorry - going off the point.
[08:39] <leeyaa> somsip: well i had problems mainly on xen servers (after update without restarting xen related services hsot becomes unstable)
[08:39] <leeyaa> host*
[08:40] <leeyaa> so if you have problems with one host or server type, for sure there will be more
[08:40] <somsip> leeyaa: fair enough - not something I've used so I can't speak from experience. I supposed you would --dry-run and get the list from there
[08:43] <fotografisto> I am unable to automatically mount a drive in ubunntu 15.05
[08:43] <EriC^^> fotografisto: how are you trying to automount it?
[08:43] <fotografisto> when I plug it in it doesn't automount
[08:43] <fotografisto> I get an error
[08:44] <Ben64> what error
[08:44] <fotografisto> man WTF now since I go and ask now it works
[08:44] <fotografisto> lol...
[08:44] <fotografisto> it is mounted
[08:44]  * hateball bets dmesg will tell a tale about unclean unmount of NTFS partition
[08:44] <fotografisto> :)
[08:44] <fotografisto> okay how do I keep this from happening again?
[08:45] <Ben64> without the error theres no way to tell
[08:45] <leeyaa> somsip: not sure how to apply the list ? https://bpaste.net/show/c7f182376039 just apt-get install listed packages ?
[08:46] <TJ-> leeyaa: I'd suggest having the staging server use unattended-upgrades for "${distro_id}-security" only and then set "Unattended-Upgrade::Mail ..." to send the list of upgraded packages a to dedicated mailbox, then simply collect/parse that mailbox each time you want to upgrade 'production' and then wipe the mailbix
[08:46] <leeyaa> TJ-: what about a local mirror ?
[08:47] <TJ-> leeyaa: what about it?
[08:47] <leeyaa> this way i can update mirror once a week, update stating then push to the rest
[08:47] <leeyaa> staging*
[08:48] <leeyaa> i used to do that for centos
[08:48] <nicechap> what is the keyboard shortcut showing the workspaces (i.e. like when one clicks on 'workspace switcher') ?
[08:49] <TJ-> leeyaa: you can always parse the list of updated packages from "/var/log/apt/history.log" if you're upgrading 'staging' manually, rather than using unattended
[08:49] <nicechap> Shift+Super+W does not do the same as it only shows the windows in all workspaces, instead of mapping them onto their workspaces
[08:49] <leeyaa> TJ-: yeah i forgot about that
[08:49] <leeyaa> i guess ill try both ways - mirror and parsing output
[08:50] <adimitrov> hi
[08:50] <leeyaa> i need to keep up to date ~200 vms so probably mirror is best option plus parsing logs to verify
[08:50] <adimitrov> is there some software for wifi access point web ui, that could be installed on ubuntu and provide UI similar to ddwrt/openwrt
[08:51] <adimitrov> i know about ebox, but it seems to doesn't work
[08:51] <leeyaa> adimitrov: why need a special os for router ?
[08:52] <adimitrov> leeyaa: because want to turn a x86 box into router with more options
[08:53] <leeyaa> adimitrov: you dont need gui for options. quiet the opposite, guis usually limit you
[08:53] <TJ-> adimitrov: Have you considered http://www.chillispot.org/
[08:54] <TJ-> adimitrov: or, are you on about router management, not hotspot provision?
[08:54] <leeyaa> pfsense has wifi stuff too i think
[08:54] <adimitrov> i try it but it doesn't support my wifi card with broadcom4360 chipset
[08:55] <TJ-> adimitrov: chipset support is down to the kernel modules,
[08:55] <adimitrov> openwrt is nice but is hard to install on x86 because lack of builtin usb drivers in the image
[08:55] <adimitrov> so i decide using ubuntu, but can't find nice webUI for management, i don't want to write all the stuff from console
[08:57] <TJ-> adimitrov: how often are you expecting to change the configuration? Usually it's fire and forget!
[08:58] <adimitrov> yes, but with single webui u have overview of all of them
[08:59] <TJ-> adimitrov: Last time I set something a gateway/router + AP up I used hostapd for the Wifi AP side, and shorewall for the networking side
[09:00] <backbox_> hello users
[09:01] <backbox_> anyone there ??
[09:01] <backbox_> init o
[09:01] <backbox_> lol
[09:02] <jub36> can someone help me with gpt and raid in server install
[09:04] <bekks> jub36: What do you need help with?
[09:06] <sedi> PRIVMSG sedi hello
[09:06] <fotografisto> I get this error when I plug my harddrive in. http://i.imgur.com/sxdw0Xf.png
[09:07] <x__> how are you
[09:08] <hateball> fotografisto: if you run "dmesg" in a terminal after you plug in the drive, can you see any errors?
[09:08] <hateball> fotografisto: usually it is due to not unmounting properly before unplugging the drive so the FS gets tainted
[09:09] <sedi> hi
[09:09] <jub36> do i need to set the bios boot partition for gpt as raid 1 and leave it unused
[09:09] <fotografisto> hateball how should I fix it?
[09:10] <Guest18271> hi
[09:10] <hateball> fotografisto: make sure you unmount the device and not just pull the plug
[09:10] <bekks> jub36: you are using a softraid?
[09:10] <jub36> yeah
[09:10] <hateball> fotografisto: anyhow, that might not be the problem. which is why I asked you to run "dmesg" to see what actually is
[09:12] <sedi> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiii
[09:12] <jub36> i want a fresh server install on 2 disks, i create a bios boot partition 1mb, root and swap, then I create a mda for the boot and root and swap
[09:12] <bekks> jub36: Mirroring the bios boot partition will enable you to boot with one drive missing.
[09:12] <Guest18271> kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[09:13] <jub36> Right so when i create an mda for the bios boot partition i leave it unused and install grub there later on in the installation?
[09:13] <fotografisto> hateball http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vLNPbZ2g
[09:13] <bekks> jub36: Whats an "mda"?
[09:14] <jub36> i mean a raid device
[09:14] <bekks> jub36: And the bios boot partition is used for booting, it has to be used.
[09:15] <sedi> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:15] <hateball> fotografisto: Strange, no obvious errors there. I am not sure if you can get any more verbose info from "journalctl"
[09:15] <x__> bbbbbbbbbbbbbbyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeee
[09:16] <x__> PRIVMSG sedi vrshrd
[09:17] <x__> PRIVMSG x__ hdthtj
[09:17] <fotografisto> you have to move the plug a bit to get it to connect to the hard drive hateball
[09:17] <fotografisto> sometimes it just disconnects
[09:17] <jub36> So basicly I dont create a raid device from 2 boot partitions but instead i just have 2 bios boot partitions and everything else goes into raid?
[09:18] <antonio> Hey folks...
[09:18] <hateball> fotografisto: yes, I saw the high number of disconnects. Perhaps the cable is bad?
[09:18] <antonio> Trying to get mp3s to play on my newly installed 14.04  Here are the errors I'm getting http://pastebin.com/QRXU25ea
[09:18] <Ben64> antonio: you cut off the top
[09:19] <antonio> what do you mean?
[09:19] <antonio> ben64: what do you mean?
[09:19] <Ben64> the error appeared from nowhere? you typed something above that
[09:21] <antonio> ben64: I'm trying to play some mp3s in amarok..got a message about installing some codecs...can I send you a screenshot of what it wants me to download?
[09:21] <antonio> Too much to type
[09:21] <Ben64> use a pastebin
[09:21] <ObrienDave> pastebin it
[09:22] <ObrienDave> ALL of it, not just the result
[09:22] <sedi_> PRIVMSG x gregerehrwe
[09:22] <antonio> ben64: I can't use a pastebin.  Its an image.
[09:23] <ObrienDave> imgur. seriously?
[09:23] <sedi_> ejbnjb
[09:23] <Ben64> sedi_: stop that
[09:23] <ObrienDave> !pastebin  antonio
[09:23] <ObrienDave> !pastebin | antonio
[09:24] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows a text editor to compare two similar text files for differences
[09:24] <antonio> ben64: here is the image http://i.imgur.com/M2rcjZY.png
[09:25] <antonio> The top two ones were pre-selected...after I tried to install those I got the error messages of http://pastebin.com/QRXU25ea
[09:25] <blackflow> kokut: vim
[09:26] <kokut> blackflow: i dont know vim and i dont feel like learning atm
[09:26] <kokut> dont feel as i dont have time, im at work
[09:26] <blackflow> kokut: well you asked, and got an answer.
[09:27] <blackflow> kokut: command line diff command can do the similar, eg, 'diff file_a file_b
[09:27] <blackflow> kokut: and no fancy keyboard gymnastics to learn
[09:27] <Ben64> antonio: run in terminal  -- "sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly"
[09:28] <hateball> kokut: kate+kompare
[09:28] <hateball> kokut: you can compare files in libreoffice writer as well
[09:29] <bekks> Or in eclipse or netbeans.
[09:32] <antonio> thanks ben64: have a nice night
[09:33] <patras> hello everyone I need a little help
[09:34] <bekks> patras: So ask right away.
[09:34] <patras> recently I hit "super+p" accidentally and now it causing some problem
[09:34] <patras> with the display
[09:34] <patras> i tried rebooting
[09:35] <patras> but nothing help
[09:36] <patras> the problem is only with this user account i'm currently logged in
[09:36] <patras> bekks: have any idea?
[09:39] <patras> I really need help, anybody there who can help me?
[09:42] <virani> hi, I am facing weird issue with terminal
[09:42] <n0lan> virani: what is your issue?
[09:43] <virani> When I am on terminal, sometimes it behaves strangely. when I press backspace or tab, it did not show up on terminal and also, when i switch to terminal(alt+tab) it displays like this : http://imgur.com/sK7rLkb
[09:43] <n0lan> o_O
[09:43] <n0lan> i dont understand =[
[09:43] <n0lan> im sorry
[09:45] <virani> sometimes it freezes and can not see text but it displays terminal's background
[09:49] <KaliHelpPlease> Hello
[09:50] <Ben64> you're on kali linux?
[09:50] <KaliHelpPlease> No its about installing it
[09:50] <Ben64> then you should ask in #kali-linux
[09:50] <KaliHelpPlease> alright. i didnt know that existed
[09:50] <TJ-> virani: I remember seeing that a few years ago. It was caused by the gterm being configured to use compositing. At that time it could be disabled, and would fix the issue. I'm not sure if that option is still available or what it is called though - you'd have to explore the configuration options
[09:51] <vuurdraak> Hi all, I just found out that:  Unity Desktop Integration 3.0.2 is breaking the search engine addon from moziall firefox, I have to disable it to install new search engines
[09:51] <vuurdraak> Im using Ubuntu 14.04 64bit LTS
[09:51] <SergioEDuran1> Hi
[09:51] <virani> TJ: thanks, i will explore on gterm
[09:51] <vuurdraak> lol i didnt know a bold thingy was copy past sorry :)
[09:55] <SergioEDuran1> I have some issues with network manager and the screen locking
[09:57] <SergioEDuran1> when the screen is locked long time Network manager has issues and them I have not internet
[09:58] <SergioEDuran1> my drivers are iwlwifi
[10:03] <SergioEDuran1> somebody know how fix is?
[10:04] <vuurdraak> maybe disable powersaving/screen going blank, and manualy shutting the screen down as a temp work around ?
[10:05] <SergioEDuran1> maybe
[10:05] <SergioEDuran1> could be an option
[10:07] <vuurdraak> only thing i could think of, warning im a gamer not an ubuntu dev :)
[10:11] <oobe> SergioEDuran1, I have a small work around script you can use as a cronjob that checks if there is net connectivity and restarts network-manager or whatever you use to connect I actually personally disabled network-manager on any distro as soon as I install but that is a whole other conversation anyway I will paste bin it for you in a second
[10:11] <Guest88686> hello
[10:11] <al2o3-cr> +
[10:11] <al2o3-cr> +
[10:13] <awesome> hello
[10:13] <SergioEDuran1> oobe
[10:13] <Guest82857> y
[10:13] <SergioEDuran1> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[10:13] <SergioEDuran1> it is necesary hehe
[10:13] <Guest82857> i am jayrod
[10:15] <Guest82857> im dead
[10:15] <vegombrei> hi how does one switch tabs in irssi? is there a better shell client?
[10:16] <Guest88686> za
[10:16] <Guest88686> klhnkjjjdjdjd
[10:17] <Guest82857> who want to b my boyfriend
[10:18] <Ben64> Guest82857: Guest88686: go play elsewhere
[10:18] <Guest82857> well ben64 i am god
[10:19] <vegombrei> hi how does one switch tabs in irssi? is there a better shell client?
[10:19] <Ben64> vegombrei: alt+[0-9]
[10:19] <vegombrei> also plex doesnt find folders in ntfs drives
[10:19] <vegombrei> Ben64: tried that it doesnt work
[10:19] <Guest82857> i need help with something there is no sound on my computer
[10:20] <Tzunamii> vegombrei: CTRL+N/P as well
[10:20] <Johnny_Linux> !sound | Guest82857
[10:20] <vegombrei> Tzunamii: that worked thaks
[10:20] <vegombrei> thanks
[10:20] <Tzunamii> any time
[10:20] <Guest82857> the volume icon isnt there
[10:21] <vegombrei> does anyone use plex media server here ?
[10:21] <Guest82857> but the wifi and mail icons r
[10:21] <bekks> What if someone does?
[10:21] <cloudy_nz> I leech off my brother-in-law's plex, hehe
[10:22] <Guest82857> someone help i really need it
[10:23] <Guest82857> SOMEONE HELP
[10:23] <Ben64> Guest82857: read this first https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
[10:24] <spodermen_sweg> anybody home?
[10:24] <cloudy_nz> lol the Americans are all snoozing
[10:24] <bekks> spodermen_sweg: According to "/names", yes.
[10:25] <oobe> did SergioEduran1 change his nick or timeout
[10:25] <oobe> if anyone sees him give him this I am afk most of the time http://pastebin.com/RiYKgWhD
[10:25] <bekks> oobe: Just send him a notice.
[10:25] <spodermen_sweg> I installed ubuntu on a flash drive (but now I want to install it on my computers hard drive instead , how can I do this without a CD ? (I have the iso file)
[10:26] <Ben64> oobe: haven't seen anyone here with that nick, ever
[10:27] <EriC^^> spodermen_sweg: do you have a usb?
[10:27] <cloudy_nz> spodermen_sweg, try unetbootin
[10:28] <TJ-> oobe: It is "SergioEDuran1"
[10:28] <Ben64> oobe: you missed a capital letter, threw off my grep.
[10:28] <Ben64> * nWoods<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[10:28] <oobe> bekks, wow I didnt know about notice
[10:28] <Ben64> err... Jul 03 2015 03:14:40 *	SergioEDuran1 has quit (Quit: SergioEDuran1)
[10:28] <oobe> yea
[10:29] <oobe> I  typed from memory no tab key when nick is gone anyway notice is cool I sent him it
[10:31] <spodermen_sweg> @EriC^^ and cloudy_nz : I have a usb ; I'll check out unetbootin
[10:31] <spodermen_sweg> Is a desktop environment usually a biggish (>100mb)  download?
[10:32] <vuurdraak> ubuntu 14.04 64bit is just shy of 1GB
[10:32] <vuurdraak> it might just fit on an 1GB stick after making it bootable
[10:32] <vuurdraak> not sure
[10:32] <spodermen_sweg> OK and what is the difference between a desktop environment and a distro?
[10:33] <vuurdraak> uhm no idea :D
[10:33] <spodermen_sweg> because I've heard of using another DE with ubuntu
[10:33] <spodermen_sweg> but I don't understand what that even means
[10:33] <vuurdraak> owww, yeh there are different desktop flavours
[10:33] <vuurdraak> like KDE and Unity etc
[10:34] <vuurdraak> but the official Ubuntu uses Unity
[10:34] <vuurdraak> if you want to use KDE you need to get Kubuntu
[10:34] <vuurdraak> or Mint maybe also uses KDE not sure
[10:34] <spodermen_sweg> what about LXDE?
[10:34] <hateball> you can just install any DE you want, there is no need to download the different ISOs to switch
[10:35] <spodermen_sweg> have a slow laptop
[10:35] <spodermen_sweg> but how vbig is each DE?
[10:35] <cloudy_nz> LXDE comes with Lubuntu, I use it all day at work
[10:35] <cloudy_nz> Lubuntu is good for machines without much RAM
[10:36] <Guest82857> can someone help i need to watch a video for summer break and i need the sound on
 is sound working for other aplications ?
[10:37] <Guest88686> no
[10:37] <spodermen_sweg> I just want to know how big LXDE is to download seperately
[10:37] <spodermen_sweg> I have ubuntu and I cannot get another distro atm , so I need a lightweight DE asap
[10:38] <hateball> spodermen_sweg: just type "sudo apt-get install lxde" in a terminal and it'll tell you what it needs to download
 do you see any sound card in the sound settings ?
[10:39] <Guest88686> were is the sound sttings
[10:39] <vuurdraak> top right in the unity bar
[10:39] <vuurdraak> the )))) symbol
[10:39] <Guest88686> wait the icon isint there
[10:39] <vuurdraak> looks like no soundcard was detected at all then on install
[10:40] <vuurdraak> what do you see when you type: alsamixer :in a terminal
[10:42] <Guest88686> a graph
[10:42] <spodermen_sweg> hateball : won't that just start the download instantly?
[10:42] <vuurdraak> does it name a soundcard ?
[10:43] <hateball> spodermen_sweg: No
[10:43] <hateball> spodermen_sweg: You'll have to type Y or N
 press F2 in alsamixer to see if any soundcard was recognized at all
 with me it shows my soundblaster crad and Nvidia's HD audio
[10:44] <spodermen_sweg> OK , thank you
[10:44] <Guest82857> it just says selct file
 are you using the soundchip thats onboard on your motherboard ?
[10:45] <Guest88686> i dont know
[10:45] <vuurdraak> maybe it was disabled in the bios ?
[10:45] <cloudy_nz> I use pavucontrol to sort out audio
[10:45] <vuurdraak> it could be a good idea to reboot and go to the bios, to check first if the soundcard/chip is enabled
[10:46] <spodermen_sweg> sudo password won't let me type??
[10:46] <Guest88686> what bios
 unless you have dual boot and you know that sound works in win
[10:47] <Guest88686> no idea wat ur talkin about
[10:47] <vuurdraak> when you start the computer, you can get (in most cases) in to your bios by pressing Del
[10:48] <vuurdraak> right whne it starts
[10:48] <Guest78>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER byterider twottqbwykmd
[10:48] <cuqa__> well done
[10:48] <vuurdraak> normaly it should be on though, but onboard sound can also be disabled
 so it would be nice to know if it's on
[10:49] <Guest82857> k but im updating
[10:49] <almark> video cards also have audio these days
[10:49] <spodermen_sweg> 24kb/s what the hell
[10:50] <ssfdre38> chroot problem, i am getting E: No such script: vivid
[10:50] <ssfdre38>  when i put sudo debootstrap ‐‐variant=buildd ‐‐arch i386 vivid /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ all the time
[10:50] <vuurdraak> almark yeh true, but his alsamixer stays empty nothing p[roducing any sound is detected, im asuming its an old pc
[10:50] <Johnny_Linux> back in the day, that was fast
[10:53] <spodermen_sweg> the day must have been 3 July 2015BC
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> ssfdre38  compared it with my chroot build command, it looks correct... try a different ftp serve, is what i can think of... so not archive.ubuntu.com
[10:54] <samsongoddy> hello i am new to ubuntu
[10:54] <vuurdraak> 2015 bc lol
 welcome to ubuntu :)
[10:54] <ssfdre38> that the thing its just wanting to launch at all or read the config file for it
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> samsongoddy  welcome, this is the ubuntu support channel
[10:54] <Guest82857> spoodermen_spegg
[10:54] <samsongoddy> yeah i was on the wiki page
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> vuurdraak  you don't need the <> ... hit sa [tab]
[10:54] <vuurdraak> tab ?
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> yes
[10:55] <vuurdraak> i just copy the name :)
[10:55] <Guest82857> i love you
[10:55] <samsongoddy> so i am a Nigerian, and i was hoping if i could contribute or join and existing group
[10:55] <vuurdraak> how i use tab ?
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> vuurdraak  the key on the left, with the two horizontal arrows
[10:55] <cfhowlett> !contribute | samsongoddy
[10:55] <vuurdraak> i mean how to use it :) but i saw now somthing use tab with part of the name
[10:56] <vuurdraak> still it's easier to copy it with the mouse in one go :)
[10:56] <samsongoddy> is there any Nigerian here
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> vuurdraak  are you using a computer or a pĥone to go on the internet?
[10:56] <vuurdraak> pc
[10:56] <Guest88686> spodermen_sweg i love you
[10:57] <vuurdraak> aaaah i type halve the name and then press tab
[10:57] <ssfdre38> MonkeyDust, http://ssfdre38.info/img/xubuntu.png this is what i get myself when i just try and run the comand
[10:57] <ssfdre38> vuurdraak, just type the first 4 letter of the name and then press tab
[10:57] <vuurdraak> i didn't know the tab trick :')
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> vuurdraak  got it?
[10:57] <vuurdraak> still there are many guests :)
[10:58] <vuurdraak> yup thanks
[10:58] <linuxuz3r> how do i install libc
[10:58] <ssfdre38> yea that is the beauty of nameserv not identify to people
[11:00] <spodermen_sweg> ssfdre38: My familt thanks you for your contribution to my knowledge
[11:00] <samsongoddy> Thanks guys hoping on working with ubuntu
[11:00] <spodermen_sweg> ssfdre38: The entire sweg tribe thanks you
[11:01] <ssfdre38> what
[11:02] <ssfdre38> yea MonkeyDust even with a different mirror it says the same thing
[11:03] <spodermen_sweg> for teaching the tab trick to us who have not yet been enlightened
[11:03] <angel_30> Hey guys, i have a problem since I use ubuntu on laptop and the battery is draining like crazy, I hat TLP since it crashed my mouse driver last time is there any alternatives so I can work longer on the laptop?
[11:04] <angel_30> hate i meant
[11:04] <Mia> when I connect to my server via sftp I do not see some files and folders
[11:04] <Mia> why can this be?
[11:04] <ssfdre38> Mia, what files and folders are you trying to view
[11:04] <Mia> usr local bin
[11:05] <Mia> usr/local/bin
[11:05] <Mia> through the ssh console when I do "dir" I can see a lot of stuff ther
[11:05] <Mia> but when I'm connected via sftp it's all empty
[11:05] <ssfdre38> type ls -al not dir
[11:05] <Mia> hm what does dir do?
[11:06] <ssfdre38> its just the windows directory tree command ls -al will show you everything in your directory
[11:07] <Mia> ssfdre38, http://i.imgur.com/8gdr0zE.png this is the image I get
[11:07] <Mia> there is only "node" there
[11:07] <Mia> then what is the ret of the stuff?
[11:08] <angel_30> there are js scripts...
[11:08] <angel_30> I suggest leave it
[11:08] <Mia> angel_30, it's empty folder though
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> ssfdre38  i was away a moment ... you have to specify a source ... i saw archive.ubuntu.com in your paste ... try another
[11:08] <Mia> I'm trying o uninstall nodejs competely
[11:10] <ssfdre38> MonkeyDust, http://ssfdre38.info/img and check xubuntu1.png and xubuntu3.png
[11:10] <Mia> ssfdre38, angel_30 -- can you give me more inf on this please
[11:10] <ssfdre38> Mia, those are hidden files and what directory are you on
[11:10] <Mia> ssfdre38, so I don't see them right?
[11:11] <ssfdre38> nope
[11:11] <Mia> that's what I meant. I don't see them through sftp client
[11:11] <angel_30> i tried to use the commands in the TLP's manpages and the problem is it tried to hook on cpu_governor but it fails to do so
[11:11] <angel_30> and it affects my startup
[11:11] <ssfdre38> Mia, what ftp client are you using
[11:12] <Mia> xftp
[11:12] <angel_30> (using in windows machine because CLI is still doin soemthing)
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> ssfdre38  you are alraeady root, so drop tre sudo
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> the*
[11:13] <ssfdre38> i just do that cause im following the community wiki but even so its still not working
[11:13] <Mia> ssfdre38, xftp
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> ssfdre38  sudo is used to give you root permission, don't need that when you are root
[11:13] <ssfdre38> Mia, check your preferance and try and see if you can have hidden files show
[11:14] <Mia> yes it's checked ssfdre38
[11:14] <ssfdre38> MonkeyDust, i know im just copying and pasting
[11:14] <angel_30> what command is that btw?
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> ssfdre38  exit root and then copy paste the command
[11:14] <ssfdre38> i did and same resault
[11:15] <angel_30> Mia can I ask, what is foreverd in the list?
[11:15] <ssfdre38> i even reboot the virtual xubuntu with sudo reboot
[11:16] <Mia> angel_30, it's a script that I installed with npm
[11:16] <ssfdre38> Mia, what directory are you in on your ssh and what directory are you in on your sftp
[11:16] <Mia> same
[11:16] <angel_30> oh (yet in my country they say there's no such thing as foreverd)
[11:16] <ssfdre38> what directory
[11:16] <Mia> usr/local/bin ssfdre38
[11:17] <michael_p> hi
[11:17] <michael_p> i have tried installing 14:10 the prob is my screen display turns off
[11:18] <angel_30> is it livecd?
[11:18] <michael_p> yes
[11:19] <angel_30> never say like a boot error or something?
[11:19] <ssfdre38> Mia, yea it can be just that your ftp client doesnt translate the redirect files
[11:19] <ssfdre38> michael_p, turn off how?
[11:19] <michael_p> displays no signal
[11:19] <ssfdre38> MonkeyDust, http://ssfdre38.info/img/xubuntu4.png
[11:20] <michael_p> i get the little man and the ruler type logo and thats it
[11:20] <angel_30> did u check for md5hashsum
[11:20] <angel_30> is it ubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu-
[11:21] <michael_p> k
[11:22] <angel_30> the plain ubuntu, michael_p?
[11:23] <michael_p> the only way i can install it is through minimal cd
[11:23] <ssfdre38> michael_p, what website did you get the ubuntu iso from and there isnt a minimal cd from ububnt
[11:23] <michael_p> and select kubuntu then
[11:24] <angel_30> I get it
[11:24] <angel_30> Ubuntu minimal Cds are developed but not yet ready I guess
[11:24] <michael_p> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.10
[11:25] <ssfdre38> michael_p, what is the file name of the iso
[11:27] <michael_p> kubuntu 14:10 amd 64
[11:27] <ssfdre38> dont remove any _ or any .iso just copy and paste
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> ssfdre38  did you install dchroot ?
[11:27] <ssfdre38> yup
[11:28] <michael_p> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/
[11:29] <murcha> is it possible to print TotalRequest/second for an individual IP accessing my webserver?
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> ssfdre38  the paste is incomplete on the left ... does it say ftp: ... ?
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> like ftp.examle.com
[11:30] <ssfdre38> for what MonkeyDust
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> ssfdre38  http://ftp.example.com ... not sure if it makes a difference ... troubleshooting
[11:32] <ssfdre38> oh for the mirror and no that is not what the mirror url is
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> ssfdre38  find a mirror with ftp
[11:34] <ssfdre38> i dont think cause its http:// and not ftp:// is not the problem cause ive always used http:// in the past just fine
[11:34] <michael_p> no luck
[11:35] <michael_p> i could try the internal video card but i dont like my chances
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> ssfdre38  i mean: http://ftp ...
[11:35] <ssfdre38> michael_p, try that cause it can be your gpu
[11:35] <TheEagerPadawan> is there a way to securely erase the files that are in currently in your trash
[11:36] <ssfdre38> MonkeyDust, that wont matter cause as long as it access the mirror just fine it wont matter the url
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> ssfdre38  i'm out of ideas now
[11:36] <zack_s_> how can I insert in the explorer a path?
[11:36] <michael_p> it seams a waste on a good video card nvidia gtx 760
[11:37] <Exagone313> hello, is there an alternative for grub to automatically detect all OS on the system? I installed ubuntu on a usb key to use it on multiple computers with different configurations
[11:37] <TJ-> ssfdre38: " E: No such script: vivid" is caused when you've got an older version of debootstrap installed. Look in "/usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/" for the release ("vivid")
[11:37] <michael_p> hmm
[11:39] <ssfdre38> it has vivid
[11:40] <ssfdre38> TJ-, http://ssfdre38.info/img/xubuntu7.png
[11:42] <ausias> ?
[11:42] <ausias> hi
[11:44] <rihbyne> hello guys
[11:45] <rihbyne> my external hdd has slow cp, mv operations. tail -f on /dev/sdb1 gives me critical medium error on sdb1.
[11:45] <rihbyne> Timing buffered disk reads:   2 MB in 52.55 seconds =  38.97 kB/sec
[11:45] <michael_p> would i be able to install nvidia drivers if i am on an onboard graphics card
[11:46] <rihbyne> Timing cached reads:     2 MB in 54.17 seconds =  37.81 kB/sec
[11:47] <ssfdre38> michael_p, it a restricted driver so you need to install it after you install the bast kubuntu system so its switching to your intergrated graphics card and then one you install it then install the restricted dirvers and set it up for your graphics card
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> rihbyne  try rsync instead of cp
[11:48] <michael_p> also is thatre a 14:10 cd just a command line
[11:48] <michael_p> no desktop at all
[11:48] <rihbyne> MonkeyDust: how is rsync different from cp ?
[11:49] <angel_30> hey guys, I'm trying to put my machine's GPU in proprietary driver but it just keeps putting it back on flgrx-wrapper
[11:49] <angel_30> any help?
[11:49] <TJ-> ssfdre38: Ha! "‐‐arch i386" should be "‐‐arch=i386"
[11:49] <rihbyne> also MonkeyDust what difference will it result in ?
[11:50] <ssfdre38> ok that worked but now chroot /var/chroot/ is not working and its not downloading the base os
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> rihbyne  rsync is pretty fast, try it, see if there's a difference ... i use rsync for my backups
[11:50] <EriC^^> rihbyne: rsync uses a differencing algorithm to copy files, and it checksums the files after they're copied
[11:50] <EriC^^> rihbyne: also it only copies files if they've been modified by default
[11:50] <michael_p> something like freebsd those
[11:51] <ssfdre38> michael_p, again its just a restricted dirver that isnt on the livecd so put your monitor on your intergrated vga port and you will see the desktop
[11:53] <rihbyne> EriC^^: MonkeyDust I issue is with the external hard drive. I am getting critical medium error on /dev/sdb1
[11:53] <SeanJAnderson> Hiya folks, I'm having trouble getting key authentication to work between WinSCP/Putty and Ubuntu 14 using the built in OpenSSH, I'm new to this, not really sure what im doing wrong, or honestly, if I'm doing anything right XD
[11:54] <EriC^^> rihbyne: run a smart test on the drive, and if it's toast backup or make an image of it
[11:55] <rihbyne> EriC^^: okay, how much time will it take to image data of size 465GB ?
[11:56] <EriC^^> rihbyne: about 5 hours maybe depends on your transfer rate
[11:58] <linbynd> SeanJAnderson, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys has some nice info on setting up ssh keys..
[12:01] <SeanJAnderson> I've already read through that, Thanks linbynd!
[12:03] <TJ-> ssfdre38: I've pinned it down. debootstrap is failing to parse the --variant= option and as a result everything else gets shifted one place along
[12:04] <linbynd> Sean, if you have generated the keys on the ubuntu box, pull the private key on your windows box to use, you would need to convert the private key to a ppk file on windows
[12:06] <linbynd> or you can install putty on the ubuntu box as well, it comes with a program "puttygen" on the terminal.. to convert to a ppk file
[12:07] <Guest77721> hola
[12:08] <TJ-> ssfdre38: What language is your keyboard set to?
[12:08] <linbynd> and run the following command on the key " puttygen my-ssh.com-key -o key.ppk"
[12:08] <SeanJAnderson> linbynd:  I've got Puttygen on my pc, and got a generated key from there
[12:08] <linbynd> and then on the windows box you can use the ppk for access.
[12:10] <linbynd> so the public part of the key should be in the users authorized_keys file on the ubuntu server.. that should do it.
[12:10] <SeanJAnderson> Right linbynd, thats what i've done so far, yet its still saying it refuses my key
[12:10] <SeanJAnderson> I wonder if restarting my server would fix it...
[12:10] <bekks> SeanJAnderson: So which file did you append to authorized_keys ?
[12:11] <SeanJAnderson> In putty gen there is an area that says, "Copy for OpenSSH"
[12:12] <TJ-> ssfdre38: Your input method has encoded "--" (0x2d 0x2d) as 0x80 0x90
[12:13] <TJ-> ssfdre38: correction, each "-" as 0xe2 0x80 0x90
[12:15] <linbynd> SeanJAnderson: So you generated the keys, (private, public) both on the windows box or you copied the keys from the ubuntu box for the user..
[12:16] <SeanJAnderson> yep linbynd!
[12:16] <spodermen_sweg> hi
[12:16] <SeanJAnderson> restarting server now, let me try that
[12:17] <spodermen_sweg> how can I install ubuntu without a CD? I have the iso file
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> spodermen_sweg  with a usb stick
[12:17] <ssfdre38> TJ-, even with just - not -- it still gives the same with no output
[12:18] <TJ-> ssfdre38: Noooo! your input method is encoding each "-" not as ASCII but as what looks like UTF-8, therefore the "--" you have don't match when the script looks at the command line arguments
[12:19] <TJ-> ssfdre38: instead of encoding each "-" as 0x2d it encodes it as 0xe2 0x80 0x90
[12:19] <spodermen_sweg> MonkeyDust: Would it be easier to use a DVD or usb?
[12:20] <ssfdre38> TJ-, well with both ways http://ssfdre38.info/img/xubuntu8.png is what happens
[12:20] <TJ-> ssfdre38: I copied your command line from IRC into a terminal and could reproduce your error. When  I analysed it by piping through hexdump I could see the byte encodings were wrong
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> spodermen_sweg  'better' depends on what you prefer ... i guess usb is more common than dvd nowadays
[12:21] <ssfdre38> spodermen_sweg, use usb as its faster to install
[12:21] <linbynd> +1 USB, you can use unetbootin prepare the usb with ubuntu on it..
[12:22] <spodermen_sweg> OK , unetbootin it is
[12:22] <TJ-> ssfdre38: I've replaced your "--" encodings with the ASCII encodings. If you copy-paste them from here I will bet it'll work:   sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch=i386 vivid /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[12:22] <ertuoo> hi
[12:22] <ssfdre38> yup that worked thanks TJ-
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> ssfdre38  problem solved?
[12:23] <ssfdre38> yup
[12:23] <TJ-> ssfdre38: So you need to sort out your locale/input method language settings
[12:23] <ssfdre38> its just using the default settings
[12:23] <ertuoo> when you unplug electric power on a device which is runing under ubuntu, how can identify that action under the log of ubuntu ?
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> TJ-  +1  how did you know the difference between ascii and utf-8 ?
[12:23] <TJ-> ssfdre38: indeed... and will give oyu no end of probelms if it does this all the time
[12:24] <bekks> ertuoo: you cannot. no power, no logs.
[12:25] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: I added "set -x" to the start of "/usr/sbin/debootstrap" which is a shell script. I then looked at how it processed the command line and saw it ignored the options. So then I piped the line copied form IRC through hexedit and saw the encodings for the "-" were 3 bytes each, rather than the expected single ASCII byte 0x2d
[12:26] <linbynd> TJ: Awesome!!
[12:26]  * MonkeyDust wipes forehead while reading that
[12:27] <TJ-> I wouldn't have been able to detect that if ssfdre38 hadn't done an actual paste of the command line into IRC. Typing it myself, as MonkeyDust discovered, had the command working fine
[12:27] <linbynd> I usually run the tree command to on dir if the output is formated with "----" then its ASCII else with UTF8 its complete straight line.. laymen detection
[12:28] <TJ-> Here look at the 2nd line, from the 2nd column in, which shows 2 lots of the UTF bytes before the "variant=" string http://paste.ubuntu.com/11815224/
[12:29] <ertuoo> i said when you unplug the electric power, it should something on the log that we can see the power off
[12:29] <TJ-> Now compare it it the ASCII encoding here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11815232/
[12:30] <ssfdre38> ertuoo, laptop, desktop or server?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:32] <bekks> ertuoo: If your device loses power, you dont see it, since it is powered off.
[12:35] <moses> does anyone know how to edit the backlight settings on laptops
[12:37] <bloop> can someone help me get my microphone working?
[12:37] <bloop> it used to work until a major update
[12:38] <jpentland> how can I make sure flash is always up to date? Every time there is an update for Firefox, it starts complaining saying that my Flash is out of date and I can't use Flash again until it gets brought into the main repos.
[12:38] <bloop> jpentland: I use chromium
[12:38] <bloop> and there's a repo that I use for updates to flash
[12:38] <bloop> let me find it for you
[12:39] <bloop> there may be one for firefox as well
[12:39] <ertuoo> it is server
[12:40] <bloop> jpentland: I use Chromium with pepper-flash-player
[12:40] <ssfdre38> ertuoo, unless you have a seperate system montering it, once you unplug the power cable its off no writting to logs or to the drive at all
[12:41] <ertuoo> yes of coursei i understand that once you unplug cable the system is off
[12:42] <jpentland> bloop, I need to stick with firefox
[12:42] <ertuoo> for me it is not normal it don't writting on the log before and after the power faillure
[12:42] <ssfdre38> that means it wont write to the logs that it was powered off, it will just stop so if you want a way to see when the server is off unexptedly, then you will see a seperate system to do so
[12:43] <bloop> fair enough
[12:43] <ssfdre38> ertuoo, its more then normal its expected to happen
[12:43] <chris__> Hi there I had force quit icon on my unity bar to the left hand side and I went to click an icon below this and it clicked force quit instead in doing so it managed to force quit the unity bar usually it pops back but after restarting ubuntu It has not come back - I have tried many articles and terminal commands but to no progress anyone got any ideas?!?
[12:45] <ertuoo> ok if you done a hard reboot with power button off, this action is recorded on the log or not ?
[12:45] <ssfdre38> nope
[12:45] <ssfdre38> its just like pulling the plug
[12:46] <moses> ok
[12:46] <moses> any way to optimize laptop battery
[12:46] <moses> life
[12:46] <moses> using ubuntu
[12:46] <ertuoo> i expect an answer saying the user hold the power button within 10 sec that's why the system is off
[12:46] <ertuoo> when you reboot the system and checking the log
[12:46] <ertuoo> is that possible or not ?
[12:48] <ssfdre38> ertuoo, no cause its just like pulling the plug again its just safer then getting electuited
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> moses  try TLP
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> moses  http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html
[12:54] <ertuoo> for me this is not a normal operation mode
[12:55] <moses> brb
[12:55] <ssfdre38> ertuoo, well for the rest of the world it is
[12:56] <michael_p> great thats sorted
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> ertuoo  there's an app called gnome-system-log
[12:56] <michael_p> tommrrow i try my graphics card
[12:58] <moses> windows has such better power optimization
[12:58] <ssfdre38> michael_p, again just install the restricted drivers and you will be fine
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> moses  yes, and other things are better in linux
[12:59] <cfhowlett> and macs run OSX flawlessly --- so what?
[12:59] <moses> so linux sucks for laptops :/
[12:59] <ssfdre38> moses, not true it depends on what your trying to do
[13:00] <ssfdre38> the heaver the resrouces and processes the more battery power you use
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> moses  i saved this quote i read here in #ubuntu: "you won't get a system that behaves the same way as a windows system.. linux has its own advantages and disadvantages..you just learn to live with a different set of annoying things =)"
[13:01] <cfhowlett> heck that deserves to be a factoid!
[13:02] <TJ-> moses: it depends on the laptop make/model and how well the manufacturers support development of the drivers, just like with Windows. If the manufacturer doesn't support optimised drivers then the PC performance may well suffer using the generic defaults
[13:03] <Hobbet1> just go to system76 moses lol their laptops are ooptimized for ubuntu
[13:04] <TJ-> moses: given equivalent driver support Linux can out-perform Windows; it depends on the workload profile
[13:06] <SeanJAnderson> I feel everything has its place, TJ- Windows is best suited for the majority of people, who need simple systems, I would never try to get my parent's running on linux. Linux is great where performance is neccesary, like servers, and workstations.
[13:06] <SeanJAnderson> the average person doesn't really need that bit of difference
[13:07] <SeanJAnderson> that said, theres no doubt that its better than windows overall, and does need more driver support
[13:09] <Hobbet1> i disagree SeanjAnderson about parents and using linux, i probably wouldnt let them use ubuntu but i would set up a lubuntu box for them since it looks and feels like windows
[13:09] <TJ-> SeanJAnderson: Many users report that installing Linux for their (grand)parents has made everyone's lives easier, and no problems for the users in getting familiar with the OS, and much less support required because of the lack of malware/spam/drive-by downloads/installs
[13:09] <michael_p> would anyone use windows
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> it's not the system that counts, it's the apps that run on it
[13:09] <TJ-> Most users simply want a web browser email, a bit of word processing and some games
[13:10] <ssfdre38_> im on windows right now michael_p and virtually running linux
[13:10] <SeanJAnderson> Hobbet1:  I <3 Lubuntu
[13:10] <michael_p> after using kubuntu i dont think i could go back
[13:10] <SeanJAnderson> I always end up using Lubuntu on my VM dev environments
[13:11] <Hobbet1> i just wiped out my hp windows 7 box and it has lubuntu 64bit on it
[13:11] <SeanJAnderson> I use windows as my main system michael, and have a server runing linux that I SSH into
[13:12] <ssfdre38> i have xubuntu on my vm but im going to get a second hdd to lubunut so i have a full system for it
[13:13] <jpentland> how can I make sure flash is always up to date? Every time there is an update for Firefox, it starts complaining saying that my Flash is out of date and I can't use Flash again until it gets brought into the main repos.
[13:14] <acovrig> How do I download files from sourceforge with wget? I keep getting the HTML download page
[13:14] <EriC^^> acovrig: try using the direct link maybe
[13:15] <acovrig> EriC^^: I did, it just gives me the HTML of the page, not the actual file...
[13:15] <moses> ok
[13:15] <moses> max battery life is 4 hours
[13:16] <ssfdre38> yea on my laptop with windows and just watching local videos i get 5 hrs of battery life on eco mode
[13:16] <moses> i think unity is the problem
[13:16] <moses> its a resource hog
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> moses  yes, it is
[13:17] <slowwalker> всем привет народ!
[13:17] <cfhowlett> !ru | slowwalker
[13:17] <ssfdre38> jpentland, go to https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ and selcect linux with your bit and that way you can keep it up to date outside of the main repo
[13:18] <ssfdre38> the latest version for flash for linux is 11.2 so
[13:20] <Hobbet1> im bad, i use google for my regular browsing and netflix, i use opera for chat, and i use firefox for amazon instant video watching lol
[13:21] <ssfdre38> i just use chrome for everything
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> ok guys, but use this channel for support questions, take discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:24] <moses> Anyone here tried ubuntu MATE?
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> moses  i use it in my VM, it's nice
[13:24] <moses> its supposed to be for laptops
[13:25] <moses> does it use gnome?
[13:25] <newke> moses, i did. liked it.
[13:25] <moses> newke: on a laptop?
[13:26] <newke> yes. its good. but i didnt like artifacts from gnome2. like help buttons, old interface...
[13:26] <newke> but its very customizable and pretty low on resources
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> !mate
[13:27] <moses> but it helped save resources no?
[13:28] <newke> it saved battery for sure.
[13:29] <virani> hi guys, i need help on fixing Ubuntu issue, i am not sure where is the problem as I am new to Ubuntu
[13:29] <yardlinux> what is a recommended  tool for connecting to ubuntu remotely via the internet from another ubuntu machine?
[13:29] <moses> it uses gnome 2 instead of unity?
[13:29] <virani> I was facing issues with terminal, I thought it is within terminal, but today I have seen issues in different applications. it is not intermittent but it is freaking out. I may not describe it in words so please refere this links for the issue i am facing. It is gone after sometimes, it comes randomly
[13:30] <virani> http://www.screencast.com/t/YVNjmcN7e
[13:30] <virani> http://imgur.com/La9sfSt
[13:30] <virani> http://imgur.com/IjEs6KL
[13:30] <ssfdre38> yardlinux, use sshd to do that but make sure you have port 22 open though your routers
[13:30] <newke> yardlinux, there is stuff called VNC
[13:30] <virani> last two screenshots displays garbage character
[13:31] <trakinas> Hello, everyone! I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 and today I simply cannot log in into my account through the GUI. I can start a guest session (like this) and log into cmd.
[13:31] <yardlinux> thanks guys
[13:32] <ssfdre38> yardlinux, do you want to see the gui or just want the basic access
[13:32] <trakinas> Any idea what can happen?
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> trakinas: did this start after an update?
[13:32] <jpentland> ssfdre38, is it really such a good thing to continually install non-ubuntu version though?
[13:33] <ssfdre38> jpentland, what do you mean
[13:33] <dart> moia ne ponimaet)))
[13:33] <trakinas> lotuspsychje, probably, I'm not sure. I usually update every time ubuntu ask, but I cant remember if there were any update yesterday
[13:33] <trakinas> lotuspsychje, dmesg says apparmour blocked lightdm
[13:33] <jpentland> ssfdre38, oh i see, they have a repo
[13:33] <ssfdre38> who?
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> trakinas: try the recoverymode/fix broken packages perhaps
[13:34] <yardlinux> ssfdre38, both if possible
[13:34] <virani> any help please, it is annoying, I have Googled it a lot but could not figure it out
[13:34] <jpentland> ssfdre38, adobe
[13:34] <ssfdre38> oh if you want to be up to date with adobe then you will have to use adobe's repo or stick with ubuntu's release of flash
[13:35] <ssfdre38> yardlinux, then yea sshd and VNC will help you out the best
[13:35] <yardlinux> ok
[13:36] <trakinas> lotuspsychje, no result for apt-get -f
[13:36] <trakinas> lotuspsychje, the strange thing is me being able to log into a guest session
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> trakinas: try making another user
[13:37] <trakinas> lotuspsychje, how that will help me?
[13:37] <ssfdre38> yardlinux, what is it that you are trying to achive with remote connecting to the other ubuntu install
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> trakinas: to test whats the problem
[13:38] <trakinas> lotuspsychje, I see. I will  try that.
[13:40] <yardlinux> ssfdre38, I hve installed ubuntu on a new laptop and want to copy my old files over to the new machine when Im at work and hve a lot of free time
[13:40] <murlidhar> hi all i have bought a usb wifi adapter for my desktop.... but i am still not able to connect to my router.... how to connect it ?
[13:40] <evo> hello everyone
[13:41] <nikola_i> how do i debug my ubuntu 15.04. It doesn't wakeup from sleep
[13:41] <evo> I switched from Windows to Ubuntu a while ago
[13:41] <ssfdre38> then i will recommand just get sshd as its less reource heavy and you can still copy files over
[13:42] <evo> In windows I used Internet Download Manager to download bigger files as I can restore the downloads even if the internet breaks, but couldn't find a similar program for Ubuntu. Any Suggestions?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> evo, wget -c
[13:42] <yardlinux> ssfdre38, ok all i need now is some research into opening port 22 on the router
[13:42] <mistralol> evo: wget?
[13:43] <mistralol> evo: curl? as well
[13:43] <ssfdre38> yardlinux, look up port fowarding with your router name and model number
[13:44] <mistralol> yardlinux: i would also recommend not running it on port 22 but on something else because anything that is internet facing on port 22 is constantly password attacked
[13:44] <evo> cfhowlett, mistralol thanks
[13:44] <yardlinux> ssfdre38, I will. I did something similar years ago when I opened a pinhole in my router to allow access to apache
[13:44] <evo> let me give it a try
[13:45] <yardlinux> mistralol, thanks for that bit of information
[13:45] <murcha> bye guys!
[13:46] <ssfdre38> yardlinux, but yea change the port number in /etc/ssh/ssh_conf and uncomment Port 22 and change it to a super high number
[13:46] <evo> cfhowlett, mistralol will it (wget) be able to resume download even after a system restart?
[13:46] <mistralol> ssfdre38: that isnt required on a port forward just change the high number on the router
[13:46] <yardlinux> ssfdre38, I will do that
[13:46] <mistralol> evo: yes
[13:47] <cfhowlett> evo, wget -c         will
[13:47] <evo> mistralol, cfhowlett :)
[13:48] <mistralol> yardlinux: if you do not want to run on port 22. Use the router configure to specifiy the external port number. So the router can forward from :2222 -> internalip:22 for example
[13:48] <mistralol> it saves a config change
[13:49] <evo> mistralol, cfhowlett: lol, I searched for wget on Ubuntu Software Centre and it shows its already installed. I never knew that :P
[13:49] <ssfdre38> evo its part of the base system
[13:49] <cfhowlett> evo, yep.  it's a terminal command
[13:50] <yardlinux> mistralol, thanks
[13:51] <evo> ssfdre38, cfhowlett: thanks, I will take over from here :)
[13:52] <ssfdre38> evo in your terminal type man wget to read up on how to use it
[13:53] <ssfdre38> it is a really powerful and really useful tool
[13:56] <spodermen_sweg> Good day to you all
[13:56] <spodermen_sweg> GABEN :O
[13:56] <mistralol> evo: also works well with another command called screen which means oyu can background the tasks
[13:56] <spodermen_sweg> I have found myself in a bit of a gherkin
[13:57] <d0lph1n98> ubuntu 14.04, npm start output this error --> weird error 135
[13:57] <d0lph1n98> any suggestion to fix it?
[13:59] <evo> mistralol: will check that!
[13:59] <spodermen_sweg> I INSTALLED ubuntu 14.04 on a flash drive and I am running it from there [NOTE: not liveUSB,but actual install] and now I want to install on my laptop's hard drive instead , so I downloaded uNetbootin , but I am having trouble using it
[13:59] <cfhowlett> spodermen_sweg, best practice: download the ubuntu .iso, make your usb, install ubuntu from that.
[14:00] <spodermen_sweg> If I have the iso on an external drive or on the laptop's hard drive and want to 'burn' it to a flash drive , how do I do that? Please provide step by step instructions because I feel like I might mess it up
[14:00] <cfhowlett> !usb | spodermen_sweg
[14:03] <trakinas> can anyone help me? I simply cannot log in with my user into GUI. I can log in on command line
[14:04] <cfhowlett> trakinas, test: login to the guest account.
[14:04] <trakinas> cfhowlett, Im here using the guest login
[14:04] <trakinas> cfhowlett, this happened from night to day, literally.
[14:06] <cfhowlett> trakinas, getting in to guest suggests that this is fixable.  I remember something like this from a while back.  don't remember the solution, but it was a super easy fix.  stay in channel, ask again.  make sure you mention you have guest access
[14:07] <trakinas> I tried resetting Xauthotority and resintalling lightdm. Didn't fix. I hope someone can help me soon, because I need to work. I'm at my office right now.
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> trakinas: did you try grub recoverymode/fix broken packages?
[14:09] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | trakinas
[14:15] <trakinas> lotuspsychje, I already did. Reset passwords and stuff. I just didn't create a new user with GUI access because I don't remember how to do that through command like
[14:15] <trakinas> *line
[14:16] <trakinas> lotuspsychje, dpkg brought no fixable packages, and system is up to date.
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> trakinas  make sure partitions are 100% full
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> trakinas  make sure no partitions are 100% full
[14:20] <trakinas> MonkeyDust, no partition at 100%
[14:21] <TJ-> trakinas: the $HOME/.xsession-errors might have some clues, as might /var/log/auth.log and /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[14:32] <bluepanter> Hi i hAvE A StRaNgE PrObLeM EvErY SeCoNd cHaRaCtEr i uPpErCaSe aNy sUgGeStIoN?
[14:33] <ikonia> stop messing around ?
[14:33] <nWoods> bluepanter Try changing another keyboard layout
[14:34] <trakinas> TJ- :  PAM seems to be firing an error related with login permissions... http://pastebin.com/EPMsj6RR
[14:35] <bluepanter> chAnGe lAyOuT DoEsNt hElP
[14:36] <mistralol> is there anything specific i need to do to get the omxh264decoder to work on raspbian. It seems to load for me then just sit there and wont decode any video
[14:37] <mistralol> bah wrong window :D
[14:38] <bluepanter> i WoRk wItH NoMAcHiNe sO If iM LuKy a rEcOnNeCt hElPs:-(
[14:39] <compdoc> Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) reaches End of Life on July 23, 2015
[14:41] <filip2192> hello! can someone help me i have problem with dualmonitor set-up. Im using Kubuntu :)
[14:41] <trakinas> brb
[14:42] <madmouser1> filip2192: what version of kubuntu and what is the problem, just state it all and someone will help if tehy can
[14:45] <bluepanter> several hitting capslock fixed the problem:-)
[14:51] <filip2192> ---Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS.--- Im using both integrated graphics and  gpu. 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini [Radeon HD 8400]
[14:51] <filip2192> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Oland XT [Radeon HD 8670 / R7 250]. Each one is connected to one monitor. It works right now but when i install proprietary driver it wont work. I wouldn't install that drivers but i have nasty spikes and i cannot play videos on youtube in higher resolution. Thank you :)
[14:51] <dbugger> Hello guys. I am trying to convert some VOB files from a DVD into a H.264 file with the following command: "avconv -i concat:"VTS_01_1.VOB|VTS_01_2.VOB|VTS_01_3.VOB|VTS_01_4.VOB" -vcodec libx264 -q 6 -ab 128k out.mpg". For some reason, when I open the file, I see nothing. what am I missing?
[14:52] <mistralol> filip2192: so ask the propiatary driver people to fix it :)
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> dbugger  not sure what you are missing, but try winff, it's a nice gui for ffmpeg/avconv
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> !info winff
[14:54] <filip2192> mistralol: hahah ty. I though that i can find some solution, but ok. I cannot anymore use Windows for development its nasty.
[14:54] <dbugger> MonkeyDust, is that for me?
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> dbugger  as i put your name in front: yes that's for you
[14:55] <dbugger> MonkeyDust, I didnt see my name. That is why I asked
[14:55] <dbugger> MonkeyDust, Oh I see, i missed the first message
[14:56] <dmiles_afk> the 'su' i got with unbuntu 14.0.4 doesnt have --session-command .. is there a package that has 'su' with this feature?
[14:56] <soee_> someone is using fancontrol and have some problems with it ?
[14:57] <bloop> Can someone help me to get my internal mic working
[14:58] <dmiles_afk>  ctrl+c in a shell that has been su:d terminates the shell is there a workarround?
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> dmiles_afk  doenst behave that way here, must be someting else
[15:00] <dmiles_afk> MonkeyDust (here is my reproducion)   su -c "sleep 10" -s /bin/bash root    <you can pick a infereir user besides root>
[15:01] <dmiles_afk> durring tht 10 seconds press corrl-c
[15:01] <dmiles_afk> "Session terminated, terminating shell... ...terminated."
[15:01] <dmiles_afk> i'd like it to simply break the command
[15:03] <dmiles_afk> on other linuxs you can:   su --session-command "sleep 10" -s /bin/bash root      and get the behavoir i am looking for
[15:03] <dmiles_afk> MonkeyDust: but maybe you are getting the behaour i want.. what happens when you press control-C ?
[15:04] <trakinas> It looks like it was a keyboard configuration problem (thanks Arch forum! haha!)
[15:04] <trakinas> Since I was able to log in into tty *and* use the Xchat without problem, I'd never guessed.
[15:05] <trakinas> That's the down side for not having to type your login screen name, I guess.
[15:05] <trakinas> thanks for the uspportm guys!
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> dmiles_afk  out of curiosity: after 10 seconds, it goes back to normal user... so what is the purpose of that command?
[15:05] <dmiles_afk> well what i have is i am running a debugger instead of the 10 seconds
[15:06] <dmiles_afk> so i use control-C to get to the sub-debug
[15:07] <dmiles_afk> i dont want to debug this as root .. is i run:  (sudo su -l -s $SHELL -c "(swipl ${RUNFILE})" prologmud )
[15:08] <dmiles_afk> MonkeyDust: if i "su - prologmud" then   swipl ${RUNFILE}  .. i can press control-C
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> dmiles_afk  i see, but #bash is a better place to ask, I guess
[15:08] <dmiles_afk> but if i want to run a shell script with "swipl ${RUNFILE}  "  then su gets in the way
[15:09] <dmiles_afk> really what i am looking for is a resoluton to http://askubuntu.com/questions/405568/why-cant-i-use-su-session-command-on-ubuntu
[15:09] <dmiles_afk> but going to ask in bash
[15:10] <notpratheek> I need some help with notify-send. I'm using i3wm, and the notify-send notifications are not blurred anymore. Is the compositor missing ?
[15:11] <notpratheek> In unity, these notifications work fine (with the blur and transparency-on-hower)
[15:15] <samsongoddy> hello all
[15:15] <samsongoddy> i am new to ubuntu
[15:16] <sagar_hani> Hey I needed a help regarding locales.
[15:17] <sagar_hani> I get this error -
[15:17] <sagar_hani> asciinema needs a UTF-8 native locale to run. Check the output of `locale` command.
[15:17] <sagar_hani> How do I fix this ?
[15:20] <philipw> test.
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> philipw  it works, we can see you
[15:21] <philipw> ty
[15:24] <dmiles_afk> gads my issue is ubuntu only ;(
[15:26] <dmiles_afk> i might be able to workarround by making a script ssh in and run the command
[15:32] <hypernova> hello
[15:35] <dmiles_afk> ubuntu's 'su' purposely left out the feature i needed   su --session-command "mydebugger" some_user   it was unsecure
[15:36] <dmiles_afk> i was hoping some shell wrapper could workarround the bug
[15:36] <blib1> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9873 - am trying to read output from this using ubuntu. Any ideas how to debug a serial FTDI device - no output is all I can get for now.
[15:39] <ljose> Hi, is there an Ubuntu 15.04 image for ARMHF?
[15:41] <OerHeks> ljose, i find netboot images only, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/15.04/
[15:42] <OerHeks> arm64 - For 64-bit ARM (ARMv8)
[15:42] <OerHeks> armhf (generic, generic-lpae) - For 32-bit ARM (ARMv7)
[15:44] <blib1> dmesg: [drm:intel_dp_start_link_train [i915]] *ERROR* failed to enable link training - any ideas what this is?
[15:51] <tacitly> hello, I'm getting this message when I want to do search on google: http://is.gd/D2SL4v
[15:55] <OerHeks> The error page most likely shows a CAPTCHA (a squiggly word with a box below it). To continue using Google, type the squiggly word into the box.
[15:55] <OerHeks> https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/86640
[15:55] <OerHeks> tacitly ^^
[15:57] <OerHeks> clear cookies, remove ~/.config/google-chrome & restart the browser
[15:58] <Quorra> Hello! Does anyone know how to use ifconfig in Ubuntu running on Crouton on a Chromebook?
[15:58] <Quorra> the default "ifconfig" command does not register
[15:59] <smoking_peanuts> Quorra are you able to get to the terminal?
[15:59] <Quorra> Yes, it is XTerm though, not the default terminal I use on a normal installation of Ubuntu 14.04
[16:00] <ricard> I may not leave at the option of xmp bios because my memory has the option xmp
[16:02] <smoking_peanuts> so if you type ifconfig is says something like that command doesn't exist?
[16:02] <FelixFire619> Hello, Ubuntu 14.04 server, I have a file. with a .tar.gz.orig ext, can this be unpacked and if so like normal?
[16:02] <Quorra> Wait I got it!
[16:02] <Quorra> I used /sbin/ifconfig
[16:02] <Quorra> now i can link it to just ifconfig
[16:07] <ricard> in my bios I do not leave me the option xmp can be because my RAM does not have the option xmp
[16:13] <Skyrider> Greetings all
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> ricard  you've come here several times with that same question. you were told that it is not for this channel
[16:17] <ricard> MonkeyDust, sorry
[16:20] <hypernova> hello im trying to install https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[16:20] <nicu_> hey
[16:20] <nicu_> is there an app for ubuntu similar to Mission Control in OSX?
[16:20] <hypernova> im not sure whoich one
[16:20] <rory> ricard: Try askin in #techsupport on irc.snoonet.org, that is a more general tech support channel
[16:21] <nicu_> k thx
[16:21] <rory> nicu_: Yes it's called virtual desktops
[16:21] <rory> nicu_: and Ubuntu had it first :P
[16:21] <ricard> rory, thakyou
[16:21] <rory> oh well suit yourself
[16:32] <hypernova> https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-58760
[16:32] <hypernova> plese this bug i have and im trying to resolve any help would be amazing!
[16:36] <hypernova> please some help
[16:36] <hypernova> which one od these https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads do i install on ubunto 15.04 and how??
[16:38] <ssfdre38> hypernova, intel graphics works with linux just fine
[16:38] <hypernova> nope
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> hypernova  i have intel graphics, works like a charm, out of the box (in 14.04)
[16:39] <ssfdre38> same
[16:39] <hypernova> https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-58760
[16:39] <ssfdre38> i have an Intel HD Graphics card on my laptop that works just fine with the 15.04
[16:39] <hypernova> thats my bug
[16:39] <ssfdre38> that is mojang not linux or ubunut
[16:40] <hypernova> yes read it
[16:40] <ssfdre38> i did
[16:40] <hypernova> sooo
[16:40] <hypernova> what do i do?
[16:40] <ssfdre38> its with minecraft openGL not linux or ubuntu
[16:40] <hypernova> hurm
[16:40] <hypernova> well
[16:40] <hypernova> my screen flickers in miencraft
[16:40] <hypernova> when im playign with my bro
[16:40] <hypernova> quite annoying
[16:41] <OerHeks> is it your bug, "Windows 8.1, latest Java version" ???
[16:41] <OerHeks> Lolz
[16:41] <hypernova> erm no
[16:41] <hypernova> lolz
[16:41] <ssfdre38> its cause the openGL has a bug in it and its just not rendering right with minecraft its not Linux or ubuntu related
[16:41] <hypernova> time to go digging though bugs again ;(
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> hypernova  in short, it seems your question is not for this channel
[16:42] <ssfdre38> hypernova, just so you know mojang has a huge backlog of 6 months+ of bugs and e-mails so just sit tight
[16:43] <OerHeks> intel is no racemonster, but should work fine
[16:43] <hypernova> haha
[16:43] <hypernova> im not sure if the problem is mojang ubuntu or intel related...
[16:43] <ssfdre38> its not even that good as a gaming graphics card
[16:43] <hypernova> yeah it should
[16:44] <ssfdre38> i will tell you this its openGL so its both Mojang and Intel graphics drivers but not linux
[16:44] <hypernova> im saving up for a i5 4690k and a 980
[16:44] <hypernova> aaaa  erhm
[16:44] <hypernova> ok thanks
[16:44] <hypernova> ill just play wioth flicker ;((
[16:49] <hexafraction> Is there a way I can install AMD Catalyst drivers for only a single kernel version/grub menu entry? I'd like to give the driver a try again since I was having issues with older versions, but I don't want to have to reinstall if something goes wrong (which had to happen last time)?
[16:50] <hexafraction> The graphics hardware in question is an AMD/ATI Sumo Radeon 6480g on an APU.
[16:52] <cheetahw26> how can I automatically accept or click OK to prompts when installing from apt-get install... I tried the -y command, but I still get prompted sometimes... trying to automate the installation of some packages
[16:53] <smallfoot-> How can I know how my install differs from the official ISO install? Which packages are missing on my system? Which files are missing on my system? Which packages do I have on my system that is not in the official install?
[16:54] <daftykins> smallfoot-: what are you trying to achieve?
[16:55] <OerHeks> without internet/updates, your install does not differ from live iso
[16:55] <smallfoot-> daftykins, make sure my system don't have old cruft, and make sure my system has all the new stuff
[16:55] <OerHeks> "official install is with internet & updates enabled"
[16:56] <bekks> smallfoot-: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:56] <daftykins> smallfoot-: so run dist-upgrade then sit back and relax? i don't see what the problem is.
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> smallfoot-  the iso has a folder called manifest
[16:58] <smallfoot-> daftykins, I did, and at the end it crashed
[16:58] <smoking_peanuts> cheetahw26 are you trying to avoid using --force-yes.. because it states that it could be dangerous?
[16:58] <bekks> smallfoot-: "it crashed" - what happened exactly?
[16:58] <daftykins> smallfoot-: so run it again.
[16:59] <smallfoot-> bekks, think it stalled at the configuring packages tihng
[16:59] <smallfoot-> daftykins, i did
[16:59] <bekks> smallfoot-: Which is not "crashed".
[16:59] <smallfoot-> bekks, well i think it like just got stuck forever
[16:59] <daftykins> smallfoot-: so show us the output.
[16:59] <bekks> smallfoot-: How long did you wait?
[16:59] <daftykins> !paste | smallfoot-
[16:59] <smallfoot-> any way to see how my system diff from the iso?
[16:59] <smallfoot-> bekks, idk
[17:00] <bekks> smallfoot-: 2 minutes, 2 hours, 2 days?
[17:00] <daftykins> smallfoot-: if you've ever installed any updates, THOSE are differences. what you are asking makes NO sense.
[17:00] <smallfoot-> bekks, 10 mins maybe
[17:00] <bekks> smallfoot-: Thats not enough sometimes.
[17:00] <smallfoot-> daftykins, i want to see a list of all packages that are on my system but are not on the default ISO install
[17:00] <bekks> smallfoot-: Why?
[17:00] <bekks> Which information will that give to you?
[17:00] <daftykins> smallfoot-: ridiculous.
[17:00] <smallfoot-> bekks, so I can know if anything I shouldn't have
[17:00] <cheetahw26> nope... didn't realize that was an option...
[17:01] <SchrodingersScat> /var/log/apt/history.log
[17:01] <bekks> smallfoot-: What?
[17:01] <bekks> smallfoot-: That makes absolutely no sense.
[17:01] <smallfoot-> bekks, yeah, legacy packages from ubuntu 13.04
[17:01] <smallfoot-> well i dont want junk from ubuntu 13.04
[17:01] <bekks> smallfoot-: Are you still running 13.04?
[17:01] <smallfoot-> no, im 15.10
[17:01] <bekks> Then you dont have any 13.04 packages.
[17:01] <smallfoot-> but i upgrade from 13.04
[17:01] <smallfoot-> maybe
[17:01] <smallfoot-> cuz i didnt do fresh 15.10 install
[17:01] <smallfoot-> i did upgrade
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> smallfoot-  15.10 is not ready/stable
[17:01] <OerHeks> autoremove
[17:02] <ssfdre38> there isnt a 15.10 release
[17:02] <bekks> You upgraded. You have no 13.04 packages anymore.
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> smallfoot-  what's the outcome of  cat /etc/issue
[17:03] <smallfoot-> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu Wily Werewolf (development branch) \n \l
[17:03] <ssfdre38> smallfoot-, may i ask why are you using the very early alpha of 15.10
[17:04] <smallfoot-> cuz i like to drive fast cars, fuck hot chicks and use the latest software
[17:04] <daftykins> i sense someone foolishly ran an upgrade with -d
[17:04] <ssfdre38> no swearing
[17:04] <smallfoot-> sry
[17:04] <Samul`> http://pastebin.com/5kC3R2pX how can I fix this on ubuntu 14 lts 64 bit?
[17:04] <Blabber151> LOL @ smallfoot.
[17:04] <SchrodingersScat> !language | smallfoot-
[17:04] <smallfoot-> :D
[17:04] <bekks> Samul`: Those are warnings, no problems :)
[17:05] <Blabber151> Ironic how the guy with `scat' in his name gives the warning on language. Hypocrite much?
[17:05] <Samul`> bekks: yep but when I run it nothing happens
[17:05] <Samul`> how am I supposed to use it?
[17:05] <bekks> Samul`: When you run what?
[17:05] <Samul`> the program (command) I showed in the past
[17:05] <Samul`> *paste
[17:06] <bekks> Samul`: What is that application expected to do?
[17:06] <Samul`> it should be something like a pulseaudio mixer
[17:07] <OerHeks> Samul`, those are just warnings as you try to run it from terminal. padevchooser should be part of pavucontrol now.
[17:07] <Samul`> ooh
[17:07] <Samul`> I think I haven't yet installed pavucontrol haha
[17:08] <Samul`> oh indeed I have... thank you anyway
[17:08] <OerHeks> have fun
[17:09] <Samul`> :)
[17:14] <slava_> hey guys, i have apache2 service running but for some reason when I try to access the port, it gives me connection refused. I collected some information here: https://gist.github.com/slavajacobson/ebb60b80d83d47965d6e
[17:14] <yabba> have you guys got any tips about what to check to get the microphone of a laptop working on ubuntu ? (webcam already works, auto detected :o )
[17:15] <hexafraction> skasturi: Are you connecting from the same machine?
[17:15] <bekks> slava_: your apache2 is listening on localhost only.
[17:16] <slava_> bekks, i don't mind that. I am trying to access it locally.. with curl -I <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:16] <slava_> curl -I <IP_ADDRESS>:80 curl: (7) Failed to connect to <IP_ADDRESS> port 80: Connection refused
[17:17] <daftykins> slava_: you see it listening on 80 from netstat -tuln ?
[17:17] <daftykins> slava_: what version is this?
[17:17] <daftykins> (ubuntu server? x.x ?
[17:19] <slava_> daftykins, Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS .... output for netstat: https://gist.github.com/slavajacobson/83ec83e50d1b5d2ac1c4
[17:20] <daftykins> slava_: desktop or server?
[17:20] <slava_> daftykins, desktop
[17:20] <daftykins> slava_: so can you open a browser and point it to localhost, rather than mess with curl solely? just to confirm
[17:21] <OerHeks> yabba, open terminal: alsamixer # and see if there is something muted or not set right
[17:21] <slava_> daftykins, yeah I tried that. Chrome says: "ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED"
[17:21] <slava_> for IP: <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:22] <daftykins> slava_: have you set up any firewall config or otherwise deviated from the clean installation?
[17:22] <daftykins> slava_: also, is this some kind of VM or a physical host?
[17:23] <slava_> daftykins, physical host. and I don't believe i setup any firewall config.. not on purpose at least. :)
[17:24] <daftykins> slava_: alright well lets start simple, have you run a dist-upgrade? have you restarted? do any errors flag up (other than perhaps a no-FQDN-set one) when running "sudo service apache2 restart" ?
[17:24] <cutbudi> hello, can I please get some technical help from someone who knows linux commands real well?
[17:24] <daftykins> cutbudi: not until you ask a question!
[17:24] <cutbudi> ok
[17:25] <slava_> daftykins, I haven't run dist_upgrade or restarted lately. I can do that. when restarting apache, it gives me: "AH00558: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS>. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message"
[17:26] <cutbudi> well I've been really having issues updating kubuntu and activating clamav
[17:26] <bodhi_zazen> slava_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/256013/could-not-reliably-determine-the-servers-fully-qualified-domain-name
[17:26] <bodhi_zazen> cutbudi, and the problem is ....
[17:26] <daftykins> slava_: yeah as i say that error doesn't matter much (FQDN) run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to update fully, reboot, then try again
[17:27] <daftykins> cutbudi: yeah that's not a question
[17:27] <slava_> i will try that. thanks!
[17:27] <cutbudi> Ok
[17:27] <cutbudi> so
[17:27] <cutbudi> noe
[17:27] <cutbudi> now
[17:27] <daftykins> cut down on the spam please
[17:29] <Skyrider> Does anyone happen to know an alternative to stopforumspam which can be integrated into nginx?
[17:29] <cutbudi> I'm about to reinstall kubuntu, and now I want to know if I need to up date while Im installing fresh install or wait untill Im fully installed then update?
[17:30] <daftykins> cutbudi: no difference, up to you.
[17:30] <daftykins> i prefer to update after, personally
[17:30] <cutbudi> which is best?
[17:30] <Kartagis> hi
[17:30] <yabba> OerHeks, ive checked my alsamixer what would it say if something was muted? i checked my devices they all seem fine :s
[17:31] <bodhi_zazen> cutbudi, daftykins> cutbudi: no difference, up to you.
[17:31] <yabba>  /proc/asound/devices
[17:31] <bodhi_zazen> cutbudi, how can there be a better when there is no difference ?
[17:31] <Kartagis> a while ago, I was helped about screentearing, and it happens again
[17:32] <daftykins> bodhi_zazen - cutbudi well i often see people in here install clean with updates and it then not boot ;) whereas installing without updates you know will work since the live session worked :D
[17:33] <bodhi_zazen> only to fail with upgrade ?
[17:33] <bodhi_zazen> lol
[17:33] <cutbudi> ok...reason asking is when updating after installation it says system up to date..then few minutes later it says update available
[17:33] <daftykins> cutbudi: install, open terminal, run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[17:34] <Kartagis> http://termbin.com/h22w <--- I've got this in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
[17:34] <cutbudi> ok hold on
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> cutbudi  why don't you simply update, when it says updates are available?
[17:35] <soee> gusy someone with Dell laptop maybe ?
[17:36] <daftykins> soee: ask an actual support question please :)
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> soee  that's a yes/no question ... what brings you here?
[17:36] <cutbudi> daftykins: Do I run both of those commands at the same time or seperate?
[17:37] <soee> i'm not sure why fan on my laptop is spinning almost full speed all the time
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> cutbudi  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade    <-- type that in a terminal
[17:37] <Actionparsnip> soee: does the sytsem have a switching GPU?
[17:37] <soee> installing i8kutils helps a bit but making 1 scond lag each time it checks temp
[17:37] <daftykins> cutbudi: you see the way i encapsulated them with double quotes? that's because you type it all as one.
[17:37] <soee> Actionparsnip: it is optimus tech laptop, has intel + nvidia
[17:38] <Actionparsnip> soee: install nvidia prime
[17:38] <daftykins> soee: did you install nvidia proprietary drivers with nvidia-prime ?
[17:38] <soee> yes i have it, but this changes nothing i think
[17:38] <soee> nvidia-prime is installed as a dependency to 346 drivers
[17:39] <daftykins> soee: checked nvidia-settings ?
[17:39] <cutbudi> daftykins: when doing a fresh install of kubuntu, do select install of third party software?
[17:39] <daftykins> cutbudi: up to you, look up online whether you want it or not.
[17:39] <soee> daftykins: what exactly should i check there?
[17:39] <daftykins> soee: power modes and GPU choice, etc etc
[17:41] <soee> brb
[17:41] <FelixFire619> how can i delete a single file (example) /homedir/public_html/file.name from a tar.gz?
[17:41] <FelixFire619> the /homedir/public_html/ is the path
[17:41] <FelixFire619> inside the tar
[17:43] <OerHeks> FelixFire619, not without repacking. from a tar, you can, not from tar.gz
[17:43] <FelixFire619> ok
[17:43] <FelixFire619> cause i get a problem with my .tar.gz when i get to that file
[17:46] <cutbudi> daftykins: Im currently in the middle of a new istallation and its asking me if I want to use entire disk and set up LVM, OR use entire disk and set up LVM encrypted...which is best?
[17:47] <ssfdre38> cutbudi, do you want to encrypt your drive or not?
[17:47] <cutbudi> Sure why not...Can anyone tell me what does LVM stands for
[17:48] <ioria> FelixFire619, if you are familiar with vim, and the issued file is a text file you can try this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5396363/how-to-open-gzip-text-files-in-gvim-without-unzipping
[17:48] <daftykins> cutbudi: i'd suggest avoiding encryption and LVM if you're new.
[17:48] <cutbudi> ok
[17:48] <FelixFire619> the file having a problem is a tar.gz itself
[17:49] <bodhi_zazen> cutbudi, if in doubt go with the defaults , you should really read up before you go installing and OS, otherwise you are asking for problems including potential data loss
[17:49] <FelixFire619> its a .tar.gz inside the tar.gz
[17:49] <cutbudi> can I still have the meaning to LVM?
[17:49] <OerHeks> ioria, that does not allow to delete.
[17:50] <ioria> OerHeks, no, but you can empty it, if it cause trobles
[17:50] <ioria> *troubles
[17:50] <daftykins> cutbudi: you will learn more from google than we can type.
[17:50] <daftykins> !lvm
[17:52] <cutbudi> ok...I thought thats what this chat room was for...sorry to have stressed you out
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> !manual | cutbudi start here
[17:54] <TheC4mel> Lol, ubottu is basically your way to be a dick on this chan, lmao
[17:54] <daftykins> TheC4mel: inappropriate talk. and no, the bot is useful for help.
[17:55] <daftykins> cutbudi: stress? you couldn't be more wrong, there's just no point in people spending time typing things that you can learn for yourself.
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> cutbudi  and we can not decide for you 'what is best' ... it depends on what you want
[17:57] <IVplay> is there a good way to make the dock on the bottom, instead of on the side?
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> IVplay  you mean in unity? no that's not possible
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> IVplay  if you're using 15.04: try 'plank'
[17:59] <IVplay> thanks, plank looks interesting
[18:00] <Imran_> my friend abbasi send me here and i have same prob which he had and was fixed by a guy http://s8.postimg.org/98oa6iqx1/Capture_PNG1.png
[18:00] <t3chguy> could someone help me add this to ufw: "iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -o lo -p tcp --dport 443 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8006"
[18:01] <daftykins> Imran_: what is that system? A VPS? from who?
[18:02] <Imran_> ubuntu 13.10
[18:02] <Imran_> yes vps
[18:02] <daftykins> Imran_: 13.10 is EOL, we do not support EOL releases here.
[18:02] <daftykins> !eol
[18:02] <Imran_> >.<
[18:02] <daftykins> talk to your provider.
[18:02] <Imran_> this prob was fixed by a guy which was there
[18:02] <Imran_> who*
[18:02] <daftykins> you can only 'fix' EOL by upgrading
[18:02] <daftykins> so, go upgrade to a supported release then we can help
[18:03] <Imran_> upgrade is not needed
[18:03] <Imran_> my friend also has this
[18:03] <daftykins> Imran_: you have to upgrade to a supported release to remain safe online, your release is not secure.
[18:03] <Imran_> but now his prob is solved
[18:04] <daftykins> you cannot keep using 13.10.
[18:04] <Imran_> man hexafraction told him 2-3 cmds
[18:04] <daftykins> doesn't matter, EOL is EOL.
[18:04] <Imran_> :/
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> Imran_  upgrade first, then ask again
[18:05] <Imran_> i cant upgrade in my vps
[18:05] <Imran_> its final version for my vps
[18:05] <daftykins> then backup and delete it, create a new one from scratch for 14.04
[18:06] <daftykins> then you should stop using it and change provider
[18:06] <daftykins> however i highly doubt any provider is still running EOL
[18:06] <Imran_> its not good bye :'(
[18:06] <daftykins> yes it is.
[18:09] <le_pig> salty..
[18:10] <nichlas> I have a disk that keeps getting errors - every other day i can run fsck and it will find (and correct) new errors. Does this means there is a physical defect or could it be something else?
[18:11] <daftykins> nichlas: can you install pastebinit and smartmontools and run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit" please? where sdX is the device name
[18:11] <daftykins> so /dev/sda or otherwise
[18:12] <nichlas> daftykins: sure, i'll do that
[18:13] <nichlas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11816723/
[18:13] <daftykins> ok lets see
[18:13] <TheC4mel> For some reason, Audacity keeps prompting me to install the library plugin files that comes with it every time I open it. After I click 'Okay' to install the plugin files, it crashes. http://imgur.com/QnmzEIQ
[18:14] <daftykins> nichlas: yep that disk is dead, the more you use it, the worse it's going to get. backup immediately and get yourself a replacement
[18:14] <daftykins> consider warranty options if it's still in warranty
[18:14] <nichlas> daftykins: it's a dedicated. I wonder if this printout is enough to get them to replace it.
[18:15] <daftykins> nichlas: yeah, say it hs 6864 reallocated sectors :)
[18:15] <daftykins> *has
[18:15] <nichlas> ..and getting more every day.
[18:15] <daftykins> oh dedi server with a hosting co? definitely
[18:15] <daftykins> that thing is toast
[18:16] <nichlas> daftykins: thanks :)
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> TheC4mel  what ubuntu version is that?
[18:27] <cutbudi> ok, thanks people espcially daftykins for thevhelp/info...now I need to know if there is a simple way to hardening kubuntu?
[18:28] <ikonia> there is no simple way
[18:28] <ikonia> it depends on your machine setup and what you want and your experience
[18:28] <ikonia> you can't buy experience
[18:28] <ikonia> and you can't be generic
[18:32] <Ally_> Anyone know anything about wi-fi connection issues and is able to help?
[18:32] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | Ally_
[18:33] <Ally_> Well, I have been having issues connecting to my wifi. When I try to connect, it takes a long time if at all, I also get much worse internet speeds than I should.
[18:34] <mguy> Ally_: connect using what? How long is a long time? How fast are 'much worse' speeds and how fast 'should' they be?
[18:35] <Ally_> Before I upgrade, I used to get 20Mbps download ish. I connect using a wifi adapter and a "long time" meaning 10 minutes if never at all. Now, I get about 2Mbps download speed.
[18:39] <Ally_> mguy: Able to answer that?
[18:39] <freezer> so hat
[18:39] <freezer> hot
[18:39] <Kartagis> a while ago, I was helped about screentearing, and it happens again
[18:39] <mguy> did you upgrade from 14 to 15 or something
[18:39] <Kartagis> http://termbin.com/h22w <--- I've got this in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
[18:40] <daftykins> Ally_: what did you upgrade from and to? what are you testing speeds with?
[18:40] <Ally_> I'm on 15.04, upgraded straight from Windows and I used speedtest
[18:40] <cutbudi> ok, ikonia...I see u speak freely about your expertise, so if you have any info on my question the tell me if not please dont tell me anything else
[18:41] <mguy> Ally_: So it's slower than it was using Windows?
[18:41] <Ally_> Yeah
[18:41] <ikonia> cutbudi: I do have info, thats why I've just explained there is no generic method
[18:41] <daftykins> Ally_: that is not an upgrade. are you saying you used WUBI?
[18:41] <Ally_> I installed from a live usb
[18:42] <daftykins> Ally_: right so just to be clear... you're comparing between Windows and Ubuntu for this wireless issue?
[18:42] <Ally_> Well, yes
[18:42] <cutbudi> ok if you have any method then tell me or can u point me in the right direction?
[18:42] <daftykins> ok, because "upgrade" usually means one ubuntu version -> another
[18:42] <ikonia> cutbudi: research hardening the apps you're using
[18:42] <daftykins> Ally_: so which wireless adapter is it?
[18:43] <Ally_> I don't know the name of it off by heart, nor does it say on the side of the adapter
[18:43] <daftykins> Ally_: is it USB?
[18:43] <Ally_> Yes, it's USB
[18:43] <daftykins> ugh.
[18:44] <daftykins> Ally_: try running "lshw -C network | pastebinit" after installing pastebinit
[18:45] <Ally_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11816892/
[18:46] <cutbudi> Ok I see Im clearly asking people for info who eithervdo not know are not into using this chat for the right reason...if you can not give me a legitimate answer the please do not respond...so far all I have gotten from two people here is arrogance
[18:47] <ikonia> cutbudi: there is no arrogance
[18:47] <ikonia> cutbudi: you are not asking questions that are "yes/no" responses
[18:47] <ikonia> cutbudi: to answer your questions, you'd need to understand the risks of your machine and then deal with those risks
[18:47] <daftykins> cutbudi: you are continuing to use a completely unwelcome poor attitude in here.
[18:47] <ikonia> saying "how do I harden it" isn't really a simple question as it's specific to the person asking the questions setup and needs
[18:48] <ikonia> it really helps if you have a solid grasp of the basics to allow you to work this through
[18:48] <cutbudi> which yes or no never comes from you
[18:48] <daftykins> Ally_: ok looks like an atheros based thing, does "lsusb" or "lsusb -vv" give much more detail regarding it?
[18:48] <ikonia> cutbudi: because it's not a "yes/no" type question
[18:49] <mtn> cutbudi, I know the answer. it is "no". there. done!
[18:49] <ikonia> cutbudi: the best advice is to look at the apps you're using, or the way you are using the system, remove anything you don't need and restrict access to the service/apps you are using as best you can
[18:49] <Ally_> daftykins: lsusb -vv : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11816912/ and lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11816916/
[18:49] <publio> Anyone know how to get boot-repair to reinstall grub2 on an encrypted system?  It doesn't recognize crypto luks
[18:50] <ikonia> your /boot partition shouldn't be encypted
[18:50] <ikonia> so you shouldn't need that
[18:50] <cutbudi> mtn: stay out of this....none of your concern
[18:50] <daftykins> Ally_: alright so you have an Ralink RT5572
[18:50] <mtn> cutbudi, hilarious. I love support vampires
[18:51] <daftykins> mtn: stop talking please.
[18:51] <publio> ikonia: yea, makes sense, but it logs an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/11812789/
[18:51] <mtn> zzzp
[18:51] <daftykins> Ally_: is it a TP-Link dongle?
[18:51] <Ally_> Not quite sure
[18:51] <daftykins> Ally_: and there's no way you can check? didn't you buy it?
[18:52] <ikonia> publio: thats a warning that it cant read the encypted disk
[18:52] <ikonia> publio: as you don't need to see the enrypted disk to boot thats ok
[18:52] <publio> and I can only still boot into memcheck
[18:52] <ikonia> publio: you will need to pass the key as an argument to decrypt it at boot time though
[18:52] <Ally_> Yeah, I'm not the network-y person so I don't really understand it, sorry
[18:53] <publio> I accidently cleared /boot while trying to clean it up, as it was full
[18:53] <daftykins> Ally_: we're talking about identifying the label on a device or box when you bought a product...
[18:53] <ikonia> publio: ok - so you're going to need some kernels in there
[18:53] <ikonia> publio: thats nothing to do with grub
[18:53] <ikonia> you don't need to re-install grub to fix that
[18:54] <publio> whoops, yea i was clearing old kernal copies
[18:54] <ikonia> publio: ok - so your problem is not grub
[18:54] <publio> i think the last one was 3....-41?
[18:54] <ikonia> so forget "fixing" grub, thats not your problem
[18:54] <publio> alright
[18:54] <publio> seems like grub loads after the kernal
[18:55] <ikonia> no
[18:55] <ikonia> it loads the kernel
[18:55] <ikonia> it's the boot loader
[18:55] <ikonia> it's required to load the kernel
[18:55] <publio> it has to be in the only unencrypted dir, /boot, with the kernal
[18:55] <publio> i guess
[18:55] <publio> if thats the order
[18:55] <Ally_> I don't see anything on the page where I bought it.
[18:56] <ikonia> publio: it lives on the mbr of the disk
[18:56] <ikonia> it's not on the file system
[18:56] <ikonia> there are some stage files that live in /boot and the config that is generated from /etc into /boot
[18:57] <daftykins> Ally_: you're being way too vague. anyway, have you updated this installation since you installed?
[18:57] <publio> I can see my encrypted filesystem. Do i unencrypt it to generate my /boot kernal
[18:57] <publio> (from the config)
[18:57] <daftykins> Ally_: plug in with a network cable to be reliable and get fully updated perhaps
[18:58] <Ally_> I have. It wanted me to update stuff when I first got on. I can't get a network cable that long and I wouldn't be able to either way
[18:58] <elhoir> hello everyone
[18:58] <daftykins> Ally_: why not?
[18:58] <elhoir> i have two computers where unity desktop does not load correctly
[18:58] <elhoir> only background image is loaded
[18:59] <Ally_> Because there's no where to put it
[18:59] <elhoir> neither icons nor left side panel
[18:59] <elhoir> nor top panel
[18:59] <daftykins> elhoir: why two? have they both been upgraded?
[18:59] <elhoir> daftykins, yes, both are running 15.04
[18:59] <daftykins> elhoir: but they both got upgraded from an earlier version, is that what's happened to cause this?
[19:00] <elhoir> daftykins, yes, both of them
[19:00] <daftykins> elhoir: test the guest sessions, if it works there - it's the user config - if not, it's more serious
[19:00] <elhoir> ok, hang a minute, im trying in this PC
[19:00] <Ally_> But I don't think the adapter is TP-LINK
[19:01] <elhoir> daftykins, yes, you are right, guest session woks
[19:01] <elhoir> works
[19:01] <elhoir> so, what may i have done wrong?
[19:02] <daftykins> elhoir: ok, so there's some user config that's breaking things. are you familiar with checking file ownership + permissions?
[19:02] <elhoir> daftykins, only basics :)
[19:02] <elhoir> but i can try
[19:03] <rbanffy> The oddest thing just happened to me. I restarted, after a good couple days up, and the laptop complained there was a secure boot violation, and then proceeded to show me the Fedora choices this laptop had prior to me installing Ubuntu on it.
[19:03] <daftykins> elhoir: ok get a terminal with the affected user, e.g. via logging in at TTY1 (press Ctrl+alt+F1) then run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "ls -al ~/ | pastebinit" and share the link here
[19:03] <Ally_> daftykins: Just found out the adapter is made by "CSL"
[19:03] <daftykins> Ally_: ok. either update it or click the Dash icon top left, type "additional drivers" and check if you're being offered a different driver for that device.
[19:04] <publio> ikonia: Is this what I need to do? http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels
[19:04] <elhoir> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11816974/
[19:04] <elhoir> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11816974/
[19:04] <daftykins> Ally_: both of which will likely require either a temporary connection into your router via a cable or otherwise. alternatively, buy a compatible wifi card/dongle.
[19:04] <ikonia> publio: concept looks fine
[19:04] <Ally_> Compatible with?
[19:04] <daftykins> ubuntu shockingly.
[19:05] <ikonia> may just need a little adjustment with due to encyption
[19:05] <Ally_> It says it's compatible with Linux
[19:05] <daftykins> Ally_: the facts speak for themselves.
[19:05] <daftykins> elhoir: yeah got some root owned files there, run "sudo chown -R elhoir: ~/" then reboot and see if that changes things
[19:05] <YokoBR> hi guys
[19:06] <YokoBR> i've got a missing lib on ubuntu
[19:06] <YokoBR>  liblzma
[19:06] <daftykins> elhoir: i suspect at some point you've tried to run "sudo startx" or similar, never do that :)
[19:06] <freezer> YokoBR, try sudo rm -rf /
[19:06] <bekks> !danger | freezer
[19:06] <elhoir> !warning
[19:06] <publio> ikonia: thanks for clearing my confusion
[19:07] <freezer> sorry, so hot here
[19:07] <donofrio> anyone here use the ctwm with ubuntu so you can use the whole menus and windows actions all without the mouse
[19:07] <elhoir> daftykins, sudo startx ?? i cant remember it
[19:07] <elhoir> still, let me change permissions...
[19:07] <daftykins> well, regardless don't :D
[19:07] <genii> YokoBR: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install liblzma5
[19:08] <elhoir> daftykins, rebooting, lets see....
[19:09] <freezer> YokoBR, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install liblzma5 && sudo rm -rf /
[19:09] <genii> YokoBR: Don't do that rm command, that user is being crass
[19:11] <YokoBR> genii:  error while loading shared libraries: liblzma.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:12] <YokoBR> about the rm rf command, i'm not that stupid.
[19:13] <genii> YokoBR: That version number is very very old. The provided version of liblzma5 installs the lib of liblzma.so.5
[19:14] <genii> YokoBR: What are you trying to do that wants the liblzma.so.1 ?
[19:14] <elhoir> hello again
[19:14] <daftykins> elhoir: any change?
[19:14] <YokoBR> An encoding system
[19:14] <elhoir> daftykins, nope, didnt work :(
[19:14] <elhoir> Ubuntu session soes not load any panel nor icon
[19:14] <ioria> YokoBR, apt-cache policy liblzma5
[19:15] <daftykins> elhoir: ok, can you run "pastebinit .xsession-errors" please
[19:15] <daftykins> elhoir: er, that'll only work if you're in ~
[19:15] <daftykins> ~/.xsession-errors
[19:15] <elhoir> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11817022/