[03:46] <sladen> Tonren: done with it?  if you're going to replace it, then just install over the top of it and keep your existing home directory
[03:47] <jturek> maagimies, duh.. of course i tried that,  and it says no valid volume control gstreamer plugin
[03:47] <Tonren> sladen: There are certain config files I know I don't want to lose, but can't think of to back up at the moment.  But I guess I'll be able to deal with it... should I just point it at the existing partitions and tell it to format?
[03:47] <arooni> does anyone know how to install ruby gems
[03:47] <arooni> into ubuntu?
[03:47] <Jenkens> chittttt, package 422 so far of ubuntu-desktop
[03:47] <Jenkens> haha
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonren:  fRESS IS BEST
[03:48] <Tonren> Jack_Sparrow: fRESS?
[03:48] <Mc_cO_By> hi everyone
[03:48] <jturek> what am i doing wrong?
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonren: Fresh format is best
[03:48] <Big_Wolf> nobody knows anything about my question?  guess i'll just have to install debian instead then :(
[03:48] <jturek> i know that it detects the audio because gdm plays the drum sound
[03:48] <m0biu5> nickpresta, any other ideas as to why a few tracks would be labelled as 20+ minutes
[03:48] <maagimies> jturek, well, I don't know what to do, I have never gotten that kind of error
[03:48] <jpiccolo> can anyone help me get libsvg-cairo 0.1.6
[03:48] <Tonren> Jack_Sparrow: I figured as much.  :\  All of my config files... FireFox extensions... the LAMP server... ndiswrapper setup... gone.
[03:48] <Mc_cO_By> i have a netwok problem amyone help me about this?
[03:48] <Tonren> Mc_cO_By: What's the prob?
[03:48] <nickpresta> @m0biu5: I don't have any experience with the software you're using so I really don't know. How long are the songs in reality?
[03:49] <Mc_cO_By> i didn't connect to internet
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonren: You will save yourself time in the long run not fighting pieces of the old install
[03:49] <BIAF> how do i add my new wirless pci card to the networking?, my modem/lan is found in here but not my wirless, I think my wirless IS found in the device manager area tho
[03:49] <m0biu5> nickpresta, much less than that - if i try to skip forward in rhythmbox, it skips to the next song =/
[03:49] <Tonren> Jack_Sparrow: You are right.  I'm sure keeping my old /var or anything like that would just end up with conflicts between 32 and 64-bit apps
[03:49] <Jenkens> package 473, good god
[03:50] <Tonren> Hey guys, how does XMMS stack up feature-wise against amaroK?
[03:50] <jeff303> Tonren: do you still have access to the partition?  you can back up your mozilla profile and probably the other things too
[03:50] <hawkaloogie> Tonren, imho xmms is antiquated.
[03:50] <nickpresta> I feel that XMMS is similar to WinAMP and AmaroK is similar to iTunes
[03:50] <Tonren> jeff303: I'm on it right now.  I'm burning the 32bit Live CD as we type.  I don't think backing it up will really work, though, now that I think about it, because so many things are specifically written for 64bit.
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonren: IUt is just something that can come back and bite you in the /root
[03:50] <Tonren> Jack_Sparrow: Aye, I agree
[03:51] <jeff303> Tonren: stuff in the mozilla profile is?  hmm if that's the case then I dunno sorry
[03:51] <DShepherd> nickpresta: banshee is more like itunes
[03:51] <Tonren> nickpresta: amaroK has been acting pleasingly like WinAmp for me.  It lacks only a little of its functionality, but amaroK is _SO BLOATED_.
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Big_Wolf: You still here?
[03:51] <BIAF> how do i add my new wirless pci card to the networking?
[03:51] <Tonren> nickpresta: Maybe once I go 32-bit, it won't take 12 seconds to boot.
[03:51] <nickpresta> AmaroK takes < 5 seconds to boot for me and I'm running a PoS computer
[03:52] <Jenkens> package 535..
[03:52] <Jenkens> heh
[03:52] <Mc_cO_By> thanx my friends maybe i search my answer another place.again yhanx
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonren: You are not going to see much of a difference (Speed Loss)
[03:52] <Tonren> nickpresta: It's probably my 64bit arch.  Everything is fatter now.
[03:52] <Tonren> Jack_Sparrow: I'm just looking for native wine and Flash support
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> AH
[03:53] <arooni> yay! rails installed on ubuntu linux using vmware... happy day!
[03:53] <jeff303> has anyone else experienced garbled video with their nvidia driver after upgrading to dapper, using the nvidia-glx package?
[03:53] <BHSPitLappy> I didn't find wireless to be too bad...
[03:53] <jpiccolo> gar where can i get libsvg-cairo 0.1.6
[03:53] <BHSPitLappy> ^ ignore
[03:53] <BHSPitLappy> wrong tab
[03:53] <h3xis> i have a server running dapper and i just installed an atapi/ide iomega zip drive 100. im wanting to make it a share within samba, and i have done so, but whever i go to access it in windows from another machine i don't seem to have the right permissions to write to it. how can i change this?
[03:54] <nickpresta> @jeff, did you configure your driver?
[03:54] <Jenkens> pkg 617+
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff303: There are some issues with upgrading over fresh install
[03:54] <BHSPitLappy> jeff303, nvidia is A-OK for me, but I didn't upgrade
[03:54] <jeff303> nickpresta: I just installed nvidia-glx, and ran sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:54] <nickpresta> oh ok
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> nvidia here too 6600 pci-e
[03:54] <BIAF> how do i add my new wirless pci card in action with defailt ubuntu wirless driver
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff what about the kernel modules etc?
[03:55] <jeff303> nv driver works just fine, of course, except no opengl
[03:55] <Jenkens> how the heck do you see what version apt-get is going to install for a specific package?
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> biaf.. Broadcom ?
[03:55] <Big_Wolf> Jack_Sparrow: hey, i'm here
[03:55] <BHSPitLappy> jeff303, opengl works for me
[03:55] <jeff303> BHSPitLappy: well that's bizarre... I do have Load GLX in the xorg.conf
[03:55] <BIAF> Jack : what do i do to make my card seen in networking
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Before you run to Debian and get Ignored in channel, what is your question
[03:55] <jeff303> BHSPitLappy: doesn't work with nv driver for me, for some reason
[03:55] <BHSPitLappy> not sure why
 i'm trying to install ubuntu on a thinkpad, and the installer crashes every time i get to the keyboard layout selection screen.  does anyone have any idea what is wrong?
[03:56] <BHSPitLappy> afk
[03:56] <maagimies> h3xis, make sure the user samba has write permissions to the mountpoint
[03:56] <jeff303> folks who are successfully using opengl and the "nv" driver, please post your xorg.conf somewhere and link
[03:56] <mikere> jeff303: can't you just install nvidia-glx?
[03:56] <h3xis> maagimies, what group would it be under?
[03:57] <jeff303> mikere: I've done that, but when I restart the x server I get garbled video
[03:57] <dash\> any way via command line to open a GUI window?
[03:57] <maagimies> h3xis, ummm, wait a sec
[03:57] <jeff303> dash\: gui window for what?
[03:57] <wildman> dash\: ?
[03:57] <m0biu5> nickpresta, i am using a different pipe now - any ideas on whether or not i can re encode those other mp3s?
[03:57] <mikere> jeff303: ah, bummer =/  Works ok on my lappy go6600
[03:57] <dash\> like file manager
[03:57] <cycom> dash\: you mean run a program in a gui when you're sshed in?
[03:57] <wildman> dash\: just run it?
[03:58] <jeff303> dash\: "nautilus" ?
[03:58] <dash\> if I have a terminal open or something, is there a command I can give to have the active directory open in the GUI?
[03:58] <nickpresta> @m0biu5: You should be able to. give it a try.
[03:58] <h3xis> maagimies, usually a simple chmod 777 <mountpoint> does it, but it's like it's completely ignoring this command
[03:58] <dash\> ah, that works
[03:58] <dash\> thanks
[03:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Big_Wolf: No idea on thinkpad but there is a group just for thinkpad and linux
[03:58] <mikere> dash\: as long as your ssh is configured for x tunneling you should be able to just run it (x tunneling is enabled by default usually)
[03:58] <m0biu5> nickpresta, not sure how to go about doing that - let me read up
[03:58] <jeff303> mikere: no he's just trying to open a nautilus window from a terminal
[03:58] <wildman> mikere: I guess dash\'s on the same system, no ssh...
[03:58] <jeff303> mikere:  nothing about remotely
[03:58] <mikere> jeff303: ah
[03:59] <dash\> right
[03:59] <dash\> I am just a nub, there is the problem :P
[03:59] <maagimies> h3xis, if the permissions are a-ok, then try fiddling with smb.conf :D
[03:59] <eugman> Is NDISWrapper on the live cd or dvd?
[03:59] <wildman> dash\: _that_ never is the problem ;)
[03:59] <Big_Wolf> Jack_Sparrow: a group?
[03:59] <jeff303> dash\: if you want it to open in the current directory you'll want  "nautilus ."
[03:59] <dash\> yep, thanks
[03:59] <Sjoerd_> anyone willing to help me getting perl to work with apache2 webserver?
[03:59] <jeff303> dash\: at least that did it for me
[03:59] <h3xis> maagimies, i already have :( i cant figure out what the deal is, but thanks anyway
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff303:  Join JAck_Sparrow and I will paste my xorg in there.
[03:59] <cycom> dash\: We have all been or still are nubs, so sweat not.  Geeze dude, this isn't #debian ;)
[03:59] <cyphase> woohoo
[04:00] <ruxpin__> dash\: what do you mean?
[04:00] <Sjoerd_> what about your new one?
[04:00] <cyphase> lol
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Big_Wolf: google ubuntu thinkpad
[04:00] <cycom> cyphase: I was really pleased when PCMCIA didn't work on my laptop in 5.10 upgrading to 6.06 made it work. :)
[04:00] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: forgive my ignorance but how do I join that channel?  just "/join #Jack_Sparrow"?
[04:00] <doormouse> Maag - you still here ? got it fixed :)
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[04:01] <mikere> What's the command for configuring x once nvidia-glx is installed?  I need to update my xorg.conf with more than 1680x1050 @60hz
[04:01] <maagimies> doormouse, what did you do? :P
[04:01] <eugman> Hey, whats the fastest way to seach my windows partition for a file based on it's name(without picking it's extention)?
[04:01] <jeff303> mikere: the one that *didn't* work for me is "nvidia-xconfig"
[04:01] <wildman> Jack_Sparrow: use pastebin, see topic...
[04:01] <jeff303> mikere:  is that what synaptic says?
[04:02] <Big_Wolf> Jack_Sparrow: ok, thanks
[04:02] <tyser> hi
[04:02] <h3xis> eugman, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, i think?
[04:02] <mikere> jeff303: hehe, makes me worried - I never ran it after installing nvidia-glx, it just started up and worked with native res and i left it at that
[04:02] <jpiccolo> why doesnt synaptic have libsvg-cairo 0.1.6
[04:02] <wildman> mikere: dpkg-reconfigure package_name ?
[04:02] <jeff303> mikere: are you sure you're getting hardware acceleration?  if so I say leave it alone
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> wildman: I know the topic, but I can paste into my own channel.. Check it's topic
[04:02] <h3m4n> how can i permenently add something to my bash path?  i've added it in .pash_profile, but it never shows up in xubuntu
[04:02] <doormouse> it was an xmms option, the output plugin was pointing at the wrong mixer, my SB mixer was labelled MPU401-UART; once i selected this all my ouput jacks became visible as audio devices
[04:03] <eugman> H3xis, wrong question. Reconfiging my xorg will NOT find me a file in my windows partition.
[04:03] <maagimies> doormouse, cool :D
[04:03] <mikere> jeff303: xorg.conf says I'm using nvidia-glx
[04:03] <spades> eugman find /path/to/win -name *search*  so the wildcard will find it w/o needing the extension
[04:03] <maagimies> doormouse, btw, remember to run "sudo alsactl store" so your mixer settings will be the same when you reboot :D
[04:03] <doormouse> Thanks for all your time - Now i have music to listen too while i try to get everything up and running :)
[04:03] <jeff303> mikere:  sounds good then
[04:03] <doormouse> cya :)
[04:03] <m0biu5> anyone know how to re-encode mp3s ripped with sound juicer if you change your pipeline
[04:03] <doormouse> Will do !! right now !
[04:04] <eugman> Spades, so sreach is the hypothetical fine name?
[04:04] <spades> yes
[04:04] <jeff303> mikere: I say if you can run glxgears or whatever at fast speeds then you're good
[04:04] <eugman> er search
[04:04] <eugman> y k
[04:04] <wildman> oups... Konversation just crashed...
[04:04] <spades> eugman ie: find /mnt/win -name *dsc*
[04:04] <doormouse> later :)
[04:05] <maagimies> doormouse, bye o/
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> wildman: My nick is registered thanks
[04:05] <mikere> jeff303: I seem to recall glxgears used to give a printout of fps - any idea how to get it to do that?
[04:05] <spikeb> glxgears -printfps
[04:05] <wildman> mikere: glxinfo | grep "vendor string", if you see ur card's manufacturer name, u shuold have 3D accel enabled
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff303: I got 500fps with std install of nvidia , following the wiki it went to 4500
[04:06] <fowlduck> !glxgears
[04:06] <ubotu> To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[04:06] <mikere> wildman: yep, it's there
[04:06] <_jacky_> will edgy use freetype 2.2.x?
[04:06] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: which wiki page are you talking about?
[04:06] <fowlduck> !glxgears @ Mika_i_
[04:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about glxgears @ Mika_i_
[04:06] <fowlduck> !glxgears @ mikere
[04:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about glxgears @ mikere
[04:06] <wildman> mikere: well... all should be set then :)
[04:06] <fowlduck> dfkjdsfjsdf
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !tell jeff303 about nvidia
[04:06] <newbuntu> can anyone send me the little drum file used for the login?
[04:07] <mikere> meh, 3500 fps.  Spose that's ok
[04:08] <aXanaXa> Hey guys can someone tell me how to deny all connections from Chinese IP space?
[04:08] <jpiccolo> how do you see what you fps are with glxgears
[04:08] <Sjoerd_> How do I enable perl for a webserver running apache2 ?
[04:08] <_jacky_> aXanaXa, why do you want to do that
[04:08] <phrizer> "120 frames in 7.5 seconds = 15.897 FPS
[04:08] <phrizer> "
[04:08] <mikere> jpiccolo: glxgears -printfps
[04:08] <phrizer> yay me.
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> phrizer:   Peddle faster...
[04:09] <wildman> phrizer: leave it running a few secs to have 'stable' readings, while the rest of the system is idle :)
[04:09] <tmccrary> Can anyone here recommend a bluetooth adapter that works well in ubuntu (preferably USB based)
[04:09] <aXanaXa> _jacky_, why wouldn't I want to do that?
[04:09] <jpiccolo> 86723 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17344.447 FPS  ----is that good
[04:09] <phrizer> wildman, it goes from around 15fps to about 5fps if i'm lucky.
[04:09] <phrizer> 50*
[04:09] <wildman> Sjoerd_: won't just installing the needed pkg and restarting apache2 do it?
[04:09] <Jack_Sparrow> jpiccolo:  Wow
[04:09] <_jacky_> aXanaXa, can you give me some reason?
[04:09] <fowlduck> Sjoerd_, man a2enmod
[04:09] <tmccrary> http://www.bluetake.com/products/BT007Si.htm
[04:10] <Sjoerd_> wildman: Not until now..
[04:10] <mikere> Sjoerd_: Bet you have to change something in apache.conf, but you might try #perl for a better answer =)
[04:10] <tmccrary> hahahaha, "Windows Compatibled"
[04:10] <jpiccolo> well i guess so
[04:10] <tmccrary> Yep, that's a good way of putting it
[04:10] <aXanaXa> _jacky_, I have no reason for any communication from any machines in China.  Many many attacks and spam originate from compromised machines there and I might as well block all of it.
[04:10] <tmccrary> Kind of like how Apple got "Windows Compatibled" back in the day
[04:10] <wildman> Sjoerd_: strange... that's the way things worked with Mandriva, still didn't play that much with ubuntu's apache, sorry.
[04:11] <jpiccolo> anybody get kde installed on drapper amd64?
[04:11] <fowlduck> Sjoerd_, man a2enmod
[04:11] <_jacky_> aXanaXa, only China?
[04:11] <Jack_Sparrow> aXanaXa: You shouldnt have any trouble ...   Actually all of Asia too
[04:11] <phrizer> if anyone has any ideas on how to get hardware acceleration going on a SiS
[04:11] <phrizer> 630/730 onboard graphics card. I'd be interested.
[04:11] <fraroco> hello every body.
[04:12] <fraroco> How can I install Xine?
[04:12] <aXanaXa> Jack_Sparrow no I am not and I added them all to my hosts.deny file
[04:12] <_jacky_> aXanaXa, cut you net cable is ok
[04:12] <wildman> phrizer: ah... that explains ur FPS ;)
[04:12] <fraroco> I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:12] <mikere> fraroco: did you try sudo apt-get install xine?
[04:12] <phrizer> wildman, yeah it sucks. heh.
[04:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[04:12] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:12] <patrickj> how again do i upgrade to ubuntu 6.06 from 5.10, Ive added the dapper repos :P
[04:12] <newbuntu> so no-one has the login wav? i seem to have misplaced mine? the drums? dcc?
[04:12] <wildman> fraroco: sudo apt-get install xine ?
[04:12] <tmccrary> sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[04:13] <tmccrary> gstreamer is horrible and will be for the next year or two probably
[04:13] <fraroco> wildman: the termianl said it can not find this pack
[04:13] <tmccrary> xine is pretty mature
[04:13] <aXanaXa> _jacky_, I am curious as to why you would not want to add that IP space if you are not doing business with China or need to have communications with them?
[04:13] <fowlduck> aXanaXa, call your ISP and let them know you're gettng attacked and to block those IPs
[04:13] <RadiantFire> tmccrary: it does most things well, just not so hot on DVD navigation
[04:13] <arooni> folks i have a router that my a windows box is connected to.. and 2) my laptop which has ubuntu linux running thru vmware.  i would like to access a shared directory on the windows computer fom ubuntu, but i have no idea on how to do this... ideas?
[04:13] <aXanaXa> fowlduck, I am not being attacked
[04:13] <patrickj> any ideas on how to upgrade?
[04:13] <patrickj> !upgrade
[04:13] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[04:13] <klees> how can i grant sudo access to xhost?
[04:13] <wildman> fraroco: not sure if it's on the 'standard' repos, cehck URLs given above by ubotu
[04:13] <timalot> question... i am running breezy , why should i upgrade to dapper?
[04:14] <fraroco> wildman:  so
[04:14] <fraroco> ?
[04:14] <tmccrary> RadientFire: I have it do all kinds of "interesting" things, the frame rate drops sometimes, audio goes in and out, it crashes totem probabnly 25% of the time on files that don't crash in totem-xine. gstreamer is not ready for the desktop yet.
[04:14] <fowlduck> timalot, it's way better
[04:14] <klees> meaning if i do a sudo <command> i can get a gtk app running under my user
[04:14] <tmccrary> timalot: breezy was good, dapper is waaay, waaay better
[04:14] <aXanaXa> timalot, driver support is much better in my opinion
[04:14] <patrickj> is it "sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[04:14] <timalot> but anything specific... ok drivers
[04:15] <spades> patrickj dist-upgrade
[04:15] <patrickj> okay
[04:15] <fowlduck> timalot, graphically, functionally, package-availability
[04:15] <wildman> fraroco: so what? :)
[04:15] <aXanaXa> but I am a long time (since 1998) Debian users so I can't speak much to ubuntu's addons
[04:15] <mikere> tmccrary: do you use kaffeine at all?  It works fairly well for me in the past
[04:15] <timalot> i guess it has firefox 1.5 ?
[04:15] <patrickj> spades: thanks, and now we wait.. :P
[04:16] <timalot> the thing is they are still using gnome 2.8 tho
[04:16] <wildman> fraroco: Jack_Sparrow run a command above giving you a lot of URLs to check regarding multimedia stuff...
[04:16] <wildman> !restricted
[04:16] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:16] <patrickj> timalot: you talking about sarge?
[04:16] <spades> timalot if it aint broke dont fix it? if you have no reason, then dont, wait for a reason :)
[04:16] <wildman> fraroco: and I've just run it again, check the URLs ubotu just printed above
[04:16] <timalot> sorry gtk 2.8
[04:17] <maagimies> :<
[04:17] <patrickj> how do i restore the gnome logo, from the ubuntu logo ?
[04:17] <maagimies> My dapper just froze on me :'(
[04:17] <patrickj> I prefer the foot :P
[04:17] <wildman> fraroco: I'm sure u'll find all the info you need there to be able to enjoy all your movies and music, and the likes
[04:18] <wildman> gotta disconnect for a while, back l8r... or tomorrow
[04:18] <timalot> thanks spades... yeah it aint broke yet
[04:18] <wildman> enjoy!
[04:18] <spades> timalot then wait for a reason, no one has a gun to your head :P
[04:19] <fowlduck> patrickj, cp /path/ubuntulogo.png /path/ubuntulogobackup.png; cp /path/footlogo.png /path/ubuntulogo.png
[04:19] <ideogram> how do I benchmark my 3d acceleration?
[04:19] <ardchoille> patrickj: http://natsci.eckerd.edu/~bordelsr/gnomehelp/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Ubuntu.ChangeMenuIcon
[04:19] <fowlduck> patrickj, crude, but it works
[04:19] <aXanaXa> So can anyone tell me any better way to deny all connections from an IP space to a machine other than using hosts.deny?  And I mean other than blocking them at the router level as this slows down my routers traversing through the ACLs.
[04:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ideogram: You mean like fps in glxgears
[04:20] <ideogram> yes exactly
[04:20] <jeff303> ok I followed the directions on the wiki, and get the same garbled video problem with nvidia
[04:20] <ideogram> how do I get fps count out of glxgears
[04:20] <spades> aXanaXa you can use iptables to deny connections but you'd need the ip ranges
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> go to term glxgears - -printfps
[04:20] <timalot> aXanaXa, iptables
[04:20] <Jack_Sparrow> one -
[04:20] <timalot> yeah what he said
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry sleepy fingers
[04:21] <patrickj> also
[04:21] <patrickj> you know when you install gnome on any other distro, there is an link to the "computer" and the home directory
[04:21] <patrickj> how do I get those on?
[04:21] <ideogram> I'm getting about 1250 FPS sustained, is that reasonable?
[04:21] <ardchoille> Jack_Sparrow: time for a nap.. or coffee?
[04:21] <ardchoille> lol
[04:21] <jeff303> patrickj: are they not under "Places"
[04:21] <fowlduck> patrickj, it's somewhere in settings
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Fireworks then bed
[04:22] <aXanaXa> spades thats no problem, they are all listed 21x.x.x.x, do you think that would be a better way that hosts.deny though?  As far as overhead?
[04:22] <patrickj> jeff303: yeh, I want them on the desktop too
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ideogram: what is your hardware, getting 4500 here nvidia 660
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> 6600
[04:22] <jeff303> patrickj: dragging them worked for me
[04:22] <ideogram> i have a 6600GT
[04:22] <ideogram> but I'm running dual monitors at 2048x1536
[04:22] <ideogram> and I resized the window
[04:23] <bobgreen5s> partickj: gconf-editor goto apps-->nautilus-->desktop
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ideo
[04:23] <patrickj> jeff303: never thought of that LOL
[04:23] <bobgreen5s> check whatever you want visible
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[04:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:23] <IdleOne> jojoman02, I installed java via apt-get and it still isnt working. any ideas?
[04:23] <ideogram> ok i left the window at the default size and I'm getting abhout 6000FPS
[04:23] <spades> aXanaXa is hosts.deny something webserver specific? i think it would be better for iptables to deny ranges than to have the webserver do it
[04:24] <dash\> ideogram :: loan me some fps then?
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> ideogram: You are good to go
[04:24] <ideogram> cool
[04:24] <ideogram> heh
[04:24] <dash\> I could use a few more
[04:24] <jeff303> yeah I followed the exact instructions on that wiki page and still got the problem  :-/
[04:24] <ideogram> I need them all to play Half-Life 2
[04:25] <aXanaXa> spades no hosts.deny is the opposite of your hosts.allow file
[04:25] <lufis> Can someone tell me what --with-x does?
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff303: use pastebin for your xorg
[04:25] <esasse> is this channel also for beginners in linux?
[04:25] <Jack_Sparrow> YEs
[04:25] <IdleOne> esasse, yyup
[04:25] <dash\> does GAIM allow snapping-to windows?
[04:26] <max_nooby_noob> Hi guys. I'm trying to dl a file to my /home folder and nothing happens.
[04:26] <spades> aXanaXa your guess is as good as mine =/
[04:26] <Evilscientist> so is anyone here running an ubuntu server as a domain?
[04:26] <spades> i dont really knwo
[04:26] <esasse> ok then.. I have just installed Ubuntu and created 3 users. now I want to have a folder with all our music with acces to everyone. where is the best place to put this folder?
[04:26] <lufis> max_nooby_noob: does the file begin with a period?
[04:26] <max_nooby_noob> something about permission?
[04:26] <max_nooby_noob> No: LimeWireLinux.rpm
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> esasse: Desktop perhaps
[04:27] <IdleOne> need some help getting Sun java working. I installed java with apt-get restarted firefox and java still isnt working. what is my next step?
[04:27] <Tarantulafudge> esasse, it doesn't matter where you put it
[04:27] <pppoe_dude> esasse, doesn't really matter...
[04:27] <maagimies> esasse, something like /home/shared, but i'm not sure if everybody agrees
[04:27] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17210
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[04:27] <pppoe_dude> esasse, /music, /usr/music, w/e
[04:27] <Tarantulafudge> esasse, personally /media fits the profile :P
[04:28] <Jenkens> how do i get rid of the splash screen on bootup?
[04:28] <esasse> thanks! :)
[04:28] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: actually this is wrong
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff303: line 101 change it to "nvidia"
[04:28] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: this is after reconfiguring it to use nv
[04:28] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: yeeah
[04:28] <max_nooby_noob> I'm only trying to save the file to home because of what someone said in a forum: You need to download limewire to your home folder-not the desk top or it will not register when you go to use alien do this by going to the toolbar in firefox
[04:28] <Eric2> How do I cd to a smb:// location?
[04:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Not NV.. that is what hung me out to dry
[04:29] <timalot> Eric2, u cant
[04:29] <pppoe_dude> max_nooby_noob, why are you downloading limewire?
[04:29] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: ok I'm gonna restart x
[04:29] <Eric2> timalot: damn, can I mount it as a network drive then and cd to it?
[04:29] <timalot> yes
[04:29] <max_nooby_noob> because that's the only p2p player I know how to use?
[04:29] <pppoe_dude> max_nooby_noob, there's gtk-gnutella
[04:29] <Eric2> timalot: know the command by chance?
[04:30] <pppoe_dude> max_nooby_noob, it's pretty straight forward and installs more cleanly
[04:30] <esasse> is there any default shortcut to open a shell window?
[04:30] <max_nooby_noob> ok thanks. I'll try that
[04:30] <max_nooby_noob> synaptic?
[04:30] <pppoe_dude> max_nooby_noob, theres also frostwire which aims to be an opensource limewire
[04:30] <pppoe_dude> max_nooby_noob, yep
[04:30] <dash\> I just installed Ubuntu earlier today, and ran apt-get update a bit ago, but my GUI is telling me I have some 160 items needed to upgrade, is that normal?
[04:30] <timalot> smbmount //windoze.host/share place_to_mount ...
[04:30] <max_nooby_noob> which of the two is "better"?
[04:30] <Gareth> Eric2, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_network_folders_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read.2Fwrite
[04:30] <Jack_Sparrow> dash yes
[04:30] <Eric2> timalot: thanks a buch!! Appreciate it
[04:31] <dash\> shall I update them then?
[04:31] <maagimies> dash\, "update" just updates the package lists, "upgrade" gets the new packages ;)
[04:31] <Gareth> dash\, yes - most of those are small updates
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[04:31] <pppoe_dude> max_nooby_noob, i havent tried frostwire... gtk-gnutella has served me well for years... so can't complain
[04:31] <max_nooby_noob> ok, I'll give it a whirl
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Guys and gals, I am fading fast... see ya all tomorrow
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Hope Jeff gets back soon
[04:32] <dash\> night Jack
[04:32] <juztin> in kde, how do you add applications to your applications menu?
[04:32] <Eric2> gareth: thanks dude
[04:33] <Gareth> no problem Eric2, I just discovered the page myself (note if you scroll down it gives you a way to do it automatically with fstab)
[04:33] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: ok same problem
[04:33] <maagimies> juztin, right click the k-menu and edit away ;)
[04:33] <Eric2> ^_^
[04:33] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: garbled video after loading the nvidia driver, so I had to reconfigure to nv
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Ok, did you do the kernel-restricted-modules as well?
[04:33] <ewood> I have Dapper Drake on an original iMac with 96 MB RAM. I love having a modern OS that runs on this.
[04:33] <juztin> maagimies, thanks! :D
[04:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Wow
[04:34] <dash\> I am rather newish to linux, and I have a game I have been trying to play.  It says it needs libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3, which, as far as I can tell, doesn't exist.  Can anybody tell me what I am doing wrong, or perhaps what to do right?
[04:34] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: yes when I installed nvidia-glx from synaptic it prompted for that dependency, and I did install them
[04:35] <farky> You know what fixes a lot of things?
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> jeff303:  Just trying to figure out where it all went wrong for you.. Frankly... too tired to be any good
[04:35] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm installing Dapper 32bit over an existing 64bit installation... Right now my NTFS partition is 60 GB and my /home partition is only 10 GB.  I'd like to change that to 30 and 40GB, respectively, but I... like... can't.
[04:35] <jeff303> Jack_Sparrow: well thanks for your suggestion anyhow, and the help
[04:35] <maagimies> dash\, would "libstdc++6" be the package you want?
[04:35] <Jack_Sparrow> np goodnight all.
[04:35] <Teqonix> Hmm.. Does Dapper (Server Ed) require a swap partition? Because I don't see an option to let me set this partition as one.
[04:35] <dash\> maagimies :: thats what I was asking, I don't know
[04:36] <fraroco> How can I install Xine?
[04:36] <fraroco> I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:37] <Healot> !info xine-ui
[04:37] <ubotu> xine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1567 kB, installed size 3512 kB
[04:37] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[04:37] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[04:37] <timalot> dash\, the pacakge libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 seems to contain the file u want
[04:38] <Jenkens> hrm alright
[04:38] <dash\> timalot :: thanks
[04:38] <Jenkens> how would i go about changing my default window manager in 6.06? I cannot seem to find this in the wiki
[04:38] <max_nooby_noob> pppoe: I'm trying to figure out where gtk-gnutella saves downloaded files. Can u give me a hand please
[04:39] <IdleOne> after installing sun java do i need to point firefox to the new version?
[04:41] <max_nooby_noob> I dl'd a file but can't find it :(
[04:41] <IdleOne> max_nooby_noob, probably on the desktop
[04:41] <IdleOne> or do a locate filename in terminal
[04:42] <GardenGnome_> hi - i'm trying to install mame, but it doesn't show up in synaptic, and it can't be found using apt-get.  i have the universal and multiverse repositories in my config..  help?
[04:42] <fraroco> How can I install Xine?
[04:42] <fraroco> I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:42] <charle97> frarco, use synaptic
[04:42] <fraroco> How can I install Xine? I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:42] <max_nooby_noob> found it, thanks
[04:42] <max_nooby_noob> :(
[04:43] <fraroco> charle97: yeah and how..
[04:43] <ewood> max_nooby_noob, how about vlc?
[04:43] <bcron> Applications - System - Synaptic and type xine on the search
[04:43] <ewood> That app rocks the house
[04:43] <charle97> !sources.list
[04:43] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:43] <fraroco> charle97: what do I need to download?
[04:43] <GardenGnome_> fraroco: you might want to look into automatix.
[04:43] <LjL> GardenGnome_: you're possibly looking for the "xmame-x" package
[04:44] <max_nooby_noob> vlc?
[04:44] <LjL> !automatix
[04:44] <bobgreen5s> !glxgears
[04:44] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:44] <ubotu> To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[04:44] <charle97> fraroco, just choose xine and synaptic will take care of the dependencies
[04:44] <maagimies> fraroco, sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs totem-xine
[04:44] <max_nooby_noob> is totem the better mp3 playe?
[04:44] <max_nooby_noob> player?
[04:44] <Cornellius> Is E17 stable ?
[04:44] <charle97> max, i like amarok
[04:44] <maagimies> max_nooby_noob, I think it excels better as a movie player then a mp3 one :)
[04:45] <timalot> max_nooby_noob, i like Rhythmbox
[04:45] <farky> Cornellius: its still in beta i think
[04:45] <max_nooby_noob> I just d-clicked the mp3 file and it automatically loaded in totem
[04:45] <maagimies> and amarok roxxors my sockors so to speak
[04:45] <IdleOne> can somebody please help me with java?
[04:45] <GardenGnome_> LjL:  yes, i've looked up the names on ubuntuforums, and have searched for them explicitly, but also for mame and xmame.  nothing.
[04:45] <fraroco> maagimies: it said " operation invalid"
[04:45] <farky> Cornellius: just use the alpha versions of firefox
[04:45] <maagimies> :F
[04:45] <auge02> yes i can help you on java
[04:46] <LjL> GardenGnome_: "mame" and "xmame" don't exist, but "xmame-x" does, as well as a few others. it's in multiverse. if you don't have it, then you don't really have multiverse enabled
[04:46] <IdleOne> auge02, i installed java with apt-get but it still isnt working
[04:46] <Cornellius> farky: ... Do you know what e17 is ?
[04:46] <maagimies> fraroco, weird, it works for me
[04:46] <GardenGnome_> e.g., xmame-sdl, xmame-vga, xmame-gl, etc.
[04:46] <farky> Cornellius: my bad, thought it said IE7
[04:46] <maagimies> fraroco, have you got the universe and multiverse repos activated?
[04:46] <auge02> and the java path?
[04:47] <IdleOne> auge02, java path?
[04:47] <IdleOne> what do you mean>?
[04:47] <fraroco> maagimies: I do not know that.
[04:47] <auge02> variable JAVAHOME and outher classpath?
[04:47] <max_nooby_noob> I'm so close to deserting XP
[04:47] <ttyfscker> so how is 6.06 compared to 5.10?  ive been using debian "testing" for a while.. just wondering if it would be beneficial to slap on ubuntu 6.06 when i get my cds in from shipit, or if you all might prefer "etch" over 6.06
[04:47] <GardenGnome_> LjL:  i'm inclined to believe it's not enabled, however, my .config file and the repositories section of synaptic show them as enabled.
[04:48] <LjL> GardenGnome_: please use the pastebin to post your /etc/apt/sources.list - i think your multiverse is not correctly enabled. also, try "sudo apt-get update" if you haven't already
[04:48] <farky> max_nooby_noob, same here i just need ventrilo and good game support
[04:48] <IdleOne> auge02, I dont understand what you are talkingabout
[04:48] <farky> max_nooby_noob: a "native" ventrilo
[04:48] <max_nooby_noob> I need a framemaker equivalent and good game support and I think I'm out.
[04:48] <LjL> GardenGnome_: does it show the multiverse of repository "dapper" enabled, or the multiverse of repository "dapper-updates" and/or "dapper-security"?
[04:48] <auge02> give me 5 min please
[04:48] <fraroco> maagimies: how can I make it?
[04:48] <IdleOne> auge02, ok
[04:49] <timalot> IdleOne, what happens when u type java at the bash prompt
[04:49] <max_nooby_noob> Actually, I'm trying Scribus (as a Framemaker equiv)
[04:49] <ttyfscker> also is there any known issues with =>2.6.15 and udev =>0.93?
[04:49] <ewood> ttyfscker, why not let apt-get update you to 6.06?
[04:49] <max_nooby_noob> how about sync'ing files?
[04:49] <ttyfscker> ewood, from debian?
[04:49] <whiter> hello i need a little help
[04:49] <ttyfscker> ewood, that wouldnt be too wise
[04:49] <farky> max_nooby_noob: what's framemaker?
[04:49] <whiter> i did a server install and then i did "apt-get install gnome-desktop"
[04:49] <max_nooby_noob> desktop publishing app
[04:49] <charle97> fraroco, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:49] <ewood> I guess. The update application gave me the option, and I took it. It was on a fresh-install system, but it turned out perfect.
[04:49] <max_nooby_noob> = Adobe
[04:50] <whiter> and i suppose it all installed... but now i cant "startx" because X11 isnt installed so does anyone know how to install X11 ?
[04:50] <IdleOne> timalot, I get a list of options
[04:50] <whiter> because apparently it didnt get installed along with gnome-desktop
[04:50] <timalot> so its going then
[04:50] <ttyfscker> whiter,  sudo apt-get install xorg
[04:50] <whiter> alrighty
[04:50] <charle97> fraroco, you'll need to uncomment some lines
[04:50] <whiter> brb gotta close irssi to do it
[04:50] <farky> max_nooby_noob: oh, have you used cedega?
[04:50] <maagimies> has anyone here having their Dapper lock up few times a day?
[04:50] <maagimies> it really bogs me :E
[04:50] <max_nooby_noob> no
[04:50] <david_> hi, i have recently burned the version of ubuntu 6.06, but i think its the cds that i have, because i cant get them to work, at all.. so, i have been trying to upgrade my ubuntu without a cd, but while trying to run this command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, i get this error: "E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often
[04:50] <david_> bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option.
[04:50] <david_> E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs" can anybody help?
[04:50] <ttyfscker> whiter u can ctrl alt F2
[04:50] <max_nooby_noob> better than scribus?
[04:50] <charle97> maagimies, no
[04:51] <maagimies> :<
[04:51] <ttyfscker> and to get back its ctrl alt F1
[04:51] <auge02> make a query please
[04:51] <klees> is there a way to have a background for the font on the desktop icons
[04:51] <klees> ??
[04:51] <maagimies> well I guess I'm alone then apart from few forum members :(
[04:51] <fraroco> charle97:  I need make what??
[04:51] <GardenGnome_> LjL: im not familiar with pastebin.  it shows dapper-security and dapper-backports multiverse
[04:52] <LjL> GardenGnome_: it should also show dapper multiverse
[04:52] <LjL> !pastebin
[04:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:52] <charle97> david, have you tried commenting out lines in your sources.list that look for your drive
[04:52] <Hivemind> Hey everybody!
[04:52] <farky> max_nooby_noob: no it's for windows game support, but it takes a subscription. there is the CVS version of it but it doesnt have the same support
[04:52] <whiter> "apt-get install xorg" doesnt work at whoever told me to do that...
[04:52] <spades> whiter try xserver-xorg
[04:52] <timalot> IdleOne, do you want the java web browser plugin?
[04:52] <whiter> ok
[04:53] <max_nooby_noob> farky: cool
[04:53] <IdleOne> timalot, yes i believe I do...want to be able to play games on pogo
[04:53] <GardenGnome_> LjL:  thanks for the help, I'll look a little closer at the repositories.
[04:53] <david_> i havent commented anything out... i would paste it and show what it says, but i know i just wrote a very long message, dont want to keep doing it :)
[04:53] <farky> !cedega
[04:53] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[04:53] <fraroco> How can I install Xine? I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:53] <fraroco> How can I install Xine? I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:53] <fraroco> How can I install Xine? I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:53] <leonza99> join #gusla
[04:53] <fraroco> How can I install mplayer? I wanna see a DVD and VCD on my PC
[04:53] <bcron> wow
[04:53] <charle97> david, comment out the lines that look for your drive
[04:53] <farky> fraroco: callm down
[04:53] <fraroco> farky:  so help me?
[04:53] <bcron> I spelled it out a long time ago fraroco
[04:54] <IdleOne> fraroco, patience
[04:54] <farky> !xine
[04:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about xine
[04:54] <david_> thanks
[04:54] <auge02> ?
[04:54] <PacketScan> hahahaha
[04:54] <bcron> fraroco: Applications - System - Synaptic and type xine on the search
[04:54] <IdleOne> fraroco, sudo apt-get install xine
[04:54] <Tonren> Hey guys, if I'm in GParted and I copy a partition, then delete the original, will that work?
[04:54] <Tom7e> how do you empty the trash from terminal?
[04:55] <fraroco> IdleOne: I have tried it at long tiem and It does not work
[04:55] <Hivemind> I'm in a bit of a pickle. I installed Ubuntu via the alternate CD (The LiveCD installer was too big, screen resolution issues) and I keep getting Error 18 in GRUB.  That is, my boot sector(?) is too big.
[04:55] <Hivemind> How do I fix this? ('m rather new)
[04:56] <IdleOne> fraroco, what error do you get?
[04:56] <spades> Hivemind how big is your harddrive?
[04:56] <Hivemind> 80GB (I'm installing Ubuntu onto the second one, hdb)
[04:56] <spades> how big is that one?
[04:56] <fraroco> IdleOne: I wiil paste it in a privated messange
[04:56] <Hivemind> 80GB.
[04:56] <charle97> fraroco, you'll probably need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file to activate the required repositories
[04:57] <IdleOne> !tell fraroco about repos
[04:57] <Tom7e> how do you load the trash in nautilus from prompt?
[04:57] <spades> hmm, i know when i do debian installs on 250gb drive i need to make a 100mb /boot partition to get around that grub error, maybe try that?
[04:57] <spades> Tom7e cd into ~/.Trash or .trash and rm *
[04:58] <Hivemind> spades: M'kay. Manual partitioning then?
[04:58] <spades> Hivemind yea =/
[04:59] <IdleOne> timalot, you still there?
[04:59] <max_nooby_noob> is there a special program for sync'ing files on an xp laptop and ubuntu desktop?
[04:59] <timalot> IdleOne, yeah hold on
[04:59] <IdleOne> timalot, k :)
[04:59] <Jenkens> how do i change my window manager, sorry to ask again? did I miss it
[04:59] <ardchoille> Jenkens: you using gnome?
[05:00] <Hivemind> Well, I'm going to learn how to do that. Thanks a lot spades.
[05:00] <Jenkens> ardchoille: currently in a shell, so n.
[05:00] <Jenkens> er, no.
[05:00] <spades> Hivemind the manualr partition isnt hard
[05:00] <Hivemind> spades, good to know.
[05:01] <ardchoille> Jenkens: I changed my window manager in gnome from Metacity to openbox, here's a link I followed.. it may help you: http://natsci.eckerd.edu/~bordelsr/gnomehelp/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Ubuntu.ChangeMenuIcon
[05:01] <Jenkens> ardchoille: i dont think that is the right link? that's just a link to change an icon?
[05:01] <timalot> IdleOne, ok do u have the /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7 directory?
[05:01] <Freyja> #php
[05:01] <ardchoille> Jenkens: sorry, that was the wrong URL. Try this one: http://natsci.eckerd.edu/~bordelsr/gnomehelp/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Gnome212.WindowManager
[05:01] <orcdestroyer> welll... I was trying to load my motherboard /lib/modules/2.4.31/kernel/drivers/net/sk98lin.o.gz
[05:02] <orcdestroyer> and show up some error... why didn't load?  /sbin/modprobe sk98lin
[05:02] <IdleOne> timalot, how do i check ?
[05:02] <timalot> IdleOne, in the command line type ls /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7
[05:02] <ardchoille> Jenkens: that method has worked for me with several different window managers
[05:02] <SurfnKid> !lm-sensors
[05:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about lm-sensors
[05:03] <IdleOne> timalot, no I dont have that
[05:04] <timalot> IdleOne, type whereis java
[05:04] <Jenkens> ardchoille: interesting..
[05:04] <SurfnKid> artichokes?
[05:04] <SurfnKid> yum
[05:04] <IdleOne> timalot,  whereis java
[05:04] <IdleOne> java: /usr/bin/java /etc/java /usr/bin/X11/java /usr/share/java /usr/share/man/man1/java.1.gz
[05:04] <max_nooby_noob> How does one make an app like rhythmbox the default appfor playing mp3s?
[05:05] <Freyja> #azarug
[05:05] <timalot> IdleOne, hahah .. no in the bash command prompt
[05:05] <IdleOne> bash command prompt
[05:05] <IdleOne> ?
[05:05] <edgy> Hi, awstats in dapper has a cron entry of: 0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * * www-data [ -x /usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -a -f /etc/awstats/awstats.conf -a -r /var/log/apache2/access.log ]  && /usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl -config=awstats -update >/dev/null. How www-data user is supposed to read access.log file which is readable only by root or adm?
[05:06] <timalot> IdleOne, in the terminal
[05:06] <auge02> java -classpath ... bla.java
[05:06] <IdleOne> timalot, I did and the second part was the output
[05:06] <timalot> ok now type ls -l /usr/bin/java
[05:07] <max_nooby_noob> nm, figured it out
[05:07] <Tonren> Hey guys, idiot check:
[05:07] <Tonren> Any reason not to make my /home partition FAT32?
[05:07] <lurker99>  edgy: what group is www-data in?
[05:07] <necrite> hi all
[05:08] <ttyfscker> timalot, what are you trying to do?
[05:08] <auge02> group ww-data
[05:08] <IdleOne> timalot, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2006-03-05 10:49 /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java
[05:08] <edgy> lurker99: only www-data group as far as I can tell
[05:08] <timalot> IdleOne, ok now ls -l /etc/alternatives/java
[05:09] <IdleOne> timalot, /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java
[05:09] <ttyfscker> IdleOne,  if your trying to install java 5.0 you should just get the .bin installer from sun's website
[05:09] <timalot> ttyfscker, trying to find where java is installed
[05:09] <timalot> IdleOne,  ok no cd /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/
[05:09] <timalot> now
[05:09] <ttyfscker> and then when you get it installed cp  the install directory from where you installed
[05:09] <ttyfscker> like if you extracted the bin from your home directory
[05:09] <necrite> i have problems to run gnome apps with las stable ubuntu and xgl
[05:09] <IdleOne> timalot, ok
[05:10] <timalot> IdleOne, now just ls
[05:10] <ttyfscker> you would just do cp /home/yourname/jre-versionthatsthere  /usr/java
[05:10] <derek> How do I install tar.gz files on ubuntu?
[05:10] <derek> !tar.gz
[05:10] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[05:10] <ttyfscker> but be sure that you mkdir /usr/java first
[05:10] <dash\> alright, xmms sucks, whats better?
[05:10] <IdleOne> timalot, bin      COPYRIGHT  javaws  LICENSE  plugin  THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.txt
[05:10] <IdleOne> CHANGES  debian     lib     man      README  Welcome.html
[05:10] <derek> !noob
[05:10] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:10] <ttyfscker> dash\, beepmediaplayer is gtk2 based version of xmms
[05:10] <derek> boov
[05:10] <derek> noov
[05:11] <derek> sorry, brother was on the computer
[05:11] <derek> noob
[05:11] <LiteHedded> !samba
[05:11] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:11] <derek> !samba
[05:11] <PetrolBomb> Anyone know a util to unpack PBP files
[05:11] <derek> !lol
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about lol
[05:11] <IdleOne> !op
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about op
[05:11] <derek> !lol
[05:11] <ttyfscker> IdleOne, a lot of stuff wont run right unless you have the official JRE from the webpage in /usr/java or /opt/java
[05:11] <IdleOne> !ops
[05:11] <derek> !os
[05:11] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about os
[05:11] <ttyfscker> that means debs dont count
[05:11] <ttyfscker> for instance frostwire wont run on debian's jre version
[05:11] <derek> !gnomefreak
[05:11] <timalot> IdleOne, type find -name plugin
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnomefreak
[05:11] <derek> !frostwire
[05:12] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.   I know older releases of ubuntu had -smp kernels, but I can't see any information on smp in 6.06 - is the smp module part of the standard k8 kernel?
[05:12] <cappicard> I hate it when my first name gets said  and xchat flashes my window...
[05:12] <IdleOne> timalot, in ./plugin I have i386
[05:12] <derek> cappicard
[05:13] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: ???
[05:13] <edgy> lurker99: may be I need just to remove the username from the file or replace it with root? any problem in this?
[05:13] <IdleOne> gnomefreak,  :)
[05:13] <timalot> IdleOne, ok i didnt see that b4, go into ./plugin/i386
[05:13] <spades> gnomefreak scroll up, bot abuse
[05:13] <cappicard> Derek just happens to be my first real name.
[05:13] <timalot> IdleOne,  cd ./plugin/i386 , then ls
[05:13] <xxyyzz> Can you get iTunes for Ubuntu?
[05:14] <IdleOne> timalot, I have ns7 and ns7-gcc29
[05:14] <necrite> mmm any ide why i cant run any gnome apps witk ubuntu deeper
[05:14] <timalot> IdleOne,  ok now type cd ns7
[05:14] <martin> does anyone know about the k8 kernel and smp?
[05:15] <xxyyzz> Does Ubuntu come with a program that plays mp3s? Or is it possible to get one for free? Where should I look for more information?
[05:15] <IdleOne> timalot, libjavaplugin_oji.so
[05:15] <Gareth> in what regard martin?
[05:15] <martin> xxyyzz: xmms, or amarok are popular choices
[05:15] <charle97> !restricted formats
[05:15] <gnomefreak> ttyfscker: now watch your language
[05:15] <timalot> IdleOne,  ok then ln -s `pwd`/libjavaplugin_oji.so ~/.mozilla/plugins
[05:15] <Teqonix> Uh-oh.. 'The security updates on security.ubuntu.com couldn't be accessed.'
[05:15] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:15] <xxyyzz> martin, cool thanks, do they come with it, or do I have to download them?
[05:15] <Teqonix> What?
[05:15] <martin> gareth: is the -k8 kernel smp enabled?
[05:15] <ttyfscker> alright gnomefreak
[05:16] <charle97> !mp3
[05:16] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:16] <martin> xxyyzz:you can get them with apt-get
[05:16] <IdleOne> timalot, ok done
[05:16] <ttyfscker> IdleOne,  ok im back.. ill help you get java
[05:16] <timalot> IdleOne, to check type ls -l .moziila/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[05:16] <narg> is there a problem with nvidia drivers and the newest i686 kernel?
[05:16] <ttyfscker> you need the binary install version for a lot of apps to run right
[05:16] <lurker99> edgy: i would have expected the package install to take care of the perms.  if i was hacking, i'd probably add the www-data to the adm  group.  but i'm not a SME...
[05:16] <Gareth> martin, yeah - the precompiled one available via apt/synaptic is SMP enabled
[05:17] <dash\> where can I find equalizer presets for media players like beep?
[05:17] <martin> xxyyzz: amarok needs gstreamer for mp3's
[05:17] <IdleOne> timalot, ls: .moziila/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so: No such file or directory
[05:17] <martin> gareth: but not on the 6.06 live cd?
[05:17] <ttyfscker> IdleOne,  do a locate java
[05:17] <xxyyzz> martin, how would I find out if I have gstreamer? is it standard with ubuntu, or do you have to apt-get it?
[05:17] <ttyfscker> and it will output a lot
[05:17] <charle97> martin, amarok need libxine-extracodecs
[05:17] <ttyfscker> but look for /usr/lib/jvm  in that
[05:17] <ttyfscker> and see if you have that
[05:17] <timalot> IdleOne, sorry its type ls -l ~/.moziila/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[05:18] <Gareth> martin, good question - to be honest, I'm not sure as that is the amd64 generic rather than the k8
[05:18] <charle97> xxyyzz, use the search in synaptic
[05:18] <ttyfscker> timalot,  they might be in /usr/lib/mozilla  /usr/lib/firefox  or /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[05:18] <martin> xxyyzz: run these commands for amarok.....
[05:18] <beerfan> anyone know of a better graphics program than Krita? (i.e., doesn't require kde
[05:18] <martin> xxyyzz: sudo apt-get install amarok
[05:18] <martin> xxyyxx: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly libxine-extracodecs
[05:18] <fowlduck> beerfan, blender?  or gimp?  what kind of graphics?
[05:19] <martin> gareth: it reports -k8 rather than generic
[05:19] <xxyyzz> Oh okay
[05:19] <beerfan> fowlduck, just simple graphics. gimp is seriously gimped imo :-)
[05:19] <xxyyzz> apt-get has a lot of stuff in it... is there a list of all the stuff I can find somewhere?
[05:19] <maagimies> beerfan, tuxpaint is the best ;P
[05:19] <xxyyzz> It would be good if the list had categories...
[05:19] <xxyyzz> Like "mp3 players" and "movie players", etc.
[05:19] <maagimies> xxyyzz, synaptic? :D
[05:19] <charle97> xxyyzz, use synaptic
[05:19] <xxyyzz> maagimies, other than synaptic... I find it hard to use =/
[05:19] <martin> xxyyzz - you can search apt using apt-cache search <package>
[05:19] <narg> adept?
[05:19] <xxyyzz> If I have to use synaptic I guess I can learn it.
[05:19] <IdleOne> timalot, /home/idleone/.mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so -> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[05:19] <ardchoille> beerfan: I have made some pretty sophisticated graphics in the gimp.. I found that one just needs to learn to use gimp
[05:20] <xxyyzz> martin: so apt-cache search * <- will list all packages?
[05:20] <charle97> synaptic is simple to use
[05:20] <fowlduck> beerfan, tuxpaint, kpaint?
[05:20] <Gareth> martin, try running uname -v
[05:20] <fowlduck> beerfan, karbon14?
[05:20] <bh4tw> hi, is there any tutorial for making an ubuntu box a wireless access point?
[05:20] <timalot> IdleOne, ok , restart firefox, then type about:plugins in the location bar
[05:20] <Gareth> if it's smp enabled it should say "SMP PREEMPT"
[05:20] <maagimies> hmm, you really can't get any simpler then tuxpaint
[05:20] <beerfan> ardchoille, I won't dispute gimps power. I just can stand it.
[05:20] <martin> xxyyzz: I'm not sure - there are a *lot* of packages!
[05:20] <ardchoille> beerfan: ahh, fair enough
[05:20] <fowlduck> beerfan, inkscape
[05:20] <fowlduck> beerfan, go search on sourceforge.net
[05:20] <beerfan> fowlduck, wow, thanks for all the names
[05:21] <xxyyzz> Is there a manual on synaptic somewhere?
[05:21] <fowlduck> beerfan, no problem :)
[05:21] <ardchoille> fowlduck: indeed, good job :)
[05:21] <beerfan> lots I never heard of
[05:21] <timalot> IdleOne, u should see Java(TM) Plug-in  there... if so it's already to go
[05:21] <edgy> lurker99: I guess to give www-data more powerful permission is a security risk but I can't tell to which extent
[05:21] <martin> gareth: "#1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:39:18 UTC 2006"
[05:21] <Gareth> martin, then you're good to go for SMP
[05:21] <maagimies> well xxyyzz, star synaptic and press F1 :)
[05:22] <charle97> start*
[05:22] <ttyfscker> IdleOne,  it shouldnt have to be listed in your firefox's about:plugins to work though..   firefox calls the java exec from its default locations.. and it doesnt put them in the plugins directory all the time... some people wonder why they have java when they dont have the plugin in their default plugins directory cuz of that
[05:22] <Shigun> Can I get some assistance?  I'm having some weird problem with my computer freezing
[05:22] <xxyyzz> maagimies, thank you!
[05:22] <beerfan> fowlduck, I guess a lot of those are kde apps
[05:22] <xxyyzz> I am still learning ubuntu
[05:22] <xxyyzz> And you guys are very helpful :-)
[05:22] <fowlduck> beerfan, i'm in kde, was just spouting what I knew
[05:23] <hey560> lmao @ ttyfsker
[05:23] <martin> gareth: thanks buddy.... wasn't entirely sure. I've got both processors working, but that doesn't necessarily mean SMP, does it?
[05:23] <hey560> what a nick
[05:23] <ardchoille> xxyyzz: This is the best channel on freenode, IMHO :)
[05:23] <beerfan> fowlduck, np. I tried out krita but it doesn't seem to integrate with gnome very well so I figured all kde apps don't
[05:23] <xxyyzz> ardchoille, they keep me coming back =-)
[05:23] <Gareth> martin, how do you know you have both procs going?
[05:23] <martin> gareth: I mean, it's not necessarily pushing individual threads of a single ap to different CPUs...
[05:23] <xxyyzz> I'll probably keep coming back 'til I learn all of linux.
[05:23] <xxyyzz> But that will never happen, heh
[05:23] <SurfnKid> hi
[05:23] <ardchoille> xxyyzz: that's the plan ;)
[05:24] <martin> gareth: I've got conky set up, graphing cpu1 and cpu2
[05:24] <fowlduck> beerfan, yeah, integration is the key word.  They work well in gnome, just don't integrate so well
[05:24] <timalot> ttyfscker, for the plugin to work it has to be in about:plugins
[05:24] <patrickj> Im working on a wallpaper and i need a nice huge transparent ubuntu logo
[05:24] <patrickj> got one?
[05:24] <ttyfscker> timalot, no it dont... if its in /usr/java/j*  or /opt/java/* it will work with firefox
[05:24] <charle97> martin, what's the code you use to graph cpu1 and cpu2?
[05:24] <Shigun> Anybody?  These freezing issue is making me doubt Ubuntu.  Never had it with Gentoo or Winblows, and I have no clue whats causing it
[05:24] <IdleOne> timalot, thank you  for your help it is working now...you should add to the wiki page :)
[05:24] <ttyfscker> if the java executable is there that is
[05:25] <martin> charle97 - what, in the .conkyrc?
[05:25] <timalot> IdleOne, np... i might do that
[05:25] <charle97> martin, yea .. . i could never get that to work
[05:25] <Gareth> martin, does the graph show them being basically unrelated to eachother?  they're not displaying the same usage or anything, I'm guessing - you'd probably pick up on that
[05:26] <martin> charle97: ${color}CPU1:${color white} ${cpu cpu1}%
[05:26] <martin> ${cpugraph cpu1 40,275 000000 7f8ed3}
[05:26] <martin> ${color}CPU2:${color white} ${cpu cpu2}%
[05:26] <martin> ${cpugraph cpu2 40,275 000000 7f8ed3}
[05:26] <patrickj> anyone?
[05:26] <ewood> Shigun, what is the issue exactly?
[05:26] <martin> martin - sorry about the flood, I should have put that on one line
[05:26] <ewood> Shigun, your computer just pauses periodically?
[05:26] <charle97> martin, thanks ... i'll try right now
[05:26] <Shigun> ewood: My computer hard freezes.  Its only happened since I have installed Ubuntu, usually happens once or more a day, requires me to reboot my computer
[05:26] <ardchoille> patrickj: there are a few pages of Ubuntu logos in the wiki
[05:27] <patrickj> kk, thanks
[05:27] <maagimies> Shigun, join the club, now theres you AND me :D
[05:27] <martin> gareth: yeah, they are both different. I originally had one showing both - and one showing a single cpu - If I remember, cpu0 reports on both processors at the same time
[05:27] <martin> gareth: although each one is stuck up on 100% at the moment as they are both crunching numbers for f@h
[05:27] <bloc76> anyone running ubuntu on a production server?
[05:27] <ewood> Shigun: Oh, that doth suck.. I have a Mac Mini that developed an annoying problem of pausing periodically - whether I'm browsing the web, playing media or playing a game. The behaviour is the same and very annoying. It began with that under either Ubuntu or Fedora Core.
[05:27] <Shigun> maagimies: Making me seriously want to reconsider Ubuntu, cause i've *never* had this issue
[05:27] <Gareth> martin, sounds fancy - I think I'm going to have to go dual core when intel's conroe chips hit
[05:28] <martin> if only I could afford dual core opterons.... :/
[05:28] <Shigun> ewood: How did you solve it, or did you?
[05:28] <maagimies> although my machine freezing reminds me of a old nvidia bug, because my mouse cursor still works
[05:28] <fowlduck> beerfan, you there?
[05:28] <beerfan> fowlduck, yeah still here
[05:28] <Gareth> ah, what are you running now?  there's probably not much difference, especially if you overclock a bit martin
[05:28] <RememberPOL> I did something to break esd... :-|
[05:28] <fowlduck> beerfan, http://sourceforge.net/softwaremap/trove_list.php?form_cat=106
[05:28] <Shigun> martin: They are nice.  I have a Opteron 165.  But, I dont think Ubuntu is using mine properly, even though I have installed an SMP kernel (the k7)
[05:28] <maagimies> Shigun, maybe you should try disabling RenderAccell, I'm trying in in a minute
[05:28] <Shigun> maagimies: Mine doesnt, the entire thing freezes
[05:28] <robertj> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/Feng_Qiu_Huang.ogg <- check that video out
[05:29] <martin> gareth: I'm running 248's
[05:29] <ewood> Shigun: Yeah, I have an original iMac running Ubuntu in its place at the moment :P I don't know what's wrong with that Mini. Your computer acts like a PC that I have, though. It hard freezes right off within XP, and I haven't tried a different OS on it so far.
[05:29] <maagimies> wow
[05:29] <timalot> RememberPOL, thats not hard :)
[05:29] <martin> 2 248s on a tyan K8WE
[05:29] <Gareth> Shigun, aren't opterons k8?
[05:29] <fowlduck> beerfan, in sourceforge it's all their graphcis editors.  It may take some digging but you'll find some good stuff
[05:29] <Shigun> Gareth: Yea, but there isnt a k8 kernel
[05:29] <patrickj> ardchoille: hmm, there are no direct ubuntu logos, mostly edubuntu and kubuntu/xubuntu
[05:29] <beerfan> fowlduck, thanks much
[05:29] <Shigun> Gareth: Used those from synaptic
[05:29] <martin> shigun - there is - mine is... hold on
[05:29] <Shigun> martin: Oh really now
[05:29] <Gareth> eh? I'm running k8 Shigun
[05:30] <Teqonix> Oh, absolutely wonderful. GRUB tries to boot Ubuntu, my monitor goes wacky, then the computer reboots.
[05:30] <dallas> hello
[05:30] <dli> Shigun, k8 is amd64
[05:30] <RememberPOL> timalot: I thought it might have had something to do with me installing jack, but I completely removed the jack package and esd still doesn't work! :(... when I run "esd" in the console... it auto-exits with no output.
[05:30] <Teqonix> Why in the name..
[05:30] <ardchoille> patrickj: hold on, lemme see what I can find..
[05:30] <martin> shigun: 2.6.15-25-amd64-k8
[05:30] <Shigun> dli: Ah ya, there, im running a 32bit Ubuntu
[05:30] <arooni-linux> oh shit... i hit 'delete panel' on the start bar type thing on the top right
[05:30] <arooni-linux> how do i get it back
[05:30] <Gareth> ah yeah right dli, I guess he wants 32 bit
[05:30] <maagimies> be back in a minute
[05:30] <martin> shigun: that's just from the latest 6.06 live dvd
[05:30] <dli> Shigun, then, you can run k7 or build your own kernel for k8
[05:30] <Shigun> I have considered 64 bit, but im afraid of compatibility
[05:30] <orcdestroyer> how can I install the shockwave in linux ?
[05:30] <martin> shigun: ah - that makes sense then. do you have reason to stay 32bit>?
[05:31] <timalot> RememberPOL, is there at /tmp/,esd* file ?
[05:31] <orcdestroyer> is that possible?
[05:31] <timalot> RememberPOL, is there at /tmp/.esd* file ?
[05:31] <dallas> could someone tell me how to open a file managment window that has root access
[05:31] <arooni-linux> folks...? do you know how to get the start-bar type panel at the top of the screen back?  i'm feeling very vulnteraable
[05:31] <dallas> please
[05:31] <naknomik> Is there a program to resize NTFS partition on Ubuntu live CD?
[05:31] <javierss> dallas
[05:31] <dli> dallas, gksu nautlius
[05:31] <Shigun> martin: Did the 64bit in Gentoo, but there were many things that I preferred to have, like flash in Firefox
[05:31] <RememberPOL> timalot: Nope.
[05:31] <ardchoille> patrickj: this link has several diff kinds and sizes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?highlight=%28artwork%29
[05:31] <dli> dallas, gksudo
[05:31] <dallas> thanks
[05:31] <javierss> dallas sudo nautilus
[05:32] <javierss> dallas . or get install automatix
[05:32] <martin> shigun - I'm only a week or so old in ubuntu, but flash is about the only thing I havent yet tackled
[05:32] <orcdestroyer> anyone can help me ?
[05:32] <orcdestroyer> how can I install the shockwave linux ?
[05:32] <javierss> orcdestroyer
[05:32] <charle97> martin, sweet it works ... i never could figure out the correct syntax
[05:32] <maagimies> orcdestroyer, install windows version of firefox with wine, and you can
[05:32] <maagimies> I do it with flash player :P
[05:32] <arooni-linux> folks...? do you know how to get the start-bar type panel at the top of the screen back?  i'm feeling very vulnterable
[05:32] <RememberPOL> timalot: Maybe it has something to do with me installing a KDE package? (kolourpaint)
[05:32] <javierss> orcdestroyer
[05:32] <arooni-linux> vulnerable
[05:32] <javierss> whit apt-get
[05:32] <Shigun> martin: Will either have to do a chroot into a 32bit environment, install win FF, or go without
[05:32] <naknomik> Can I resize NTFS partition using ubuntu?
[05:32] <Teqonix> Wonderful, I have no idea what's wrong with this. GRUB tries to start Ubuntu, then the machine just reboots.
[05:33] <Gareth> naknomik, yes - use gparted (gksudo apt-get install gparted)
[05:33] <Gareth> note that you should defrag the partition before shrinking it (as you might lose data otherwise)
[05:33] <ZhangZhong> could any one tell me if there are some tuitions about how I can rebuild my kernel especially on Ubuntu 6.06?
[05:33] <martin> charle97: cool. I'm quite proud of my .conkyrc - it's reporting amarok information, and folding at home information too - if you're using either, it might make a nice addition ? :)
[05:33] <timalot> RememberPOL, well i am no expert but u could try and reinstall the pacakge with esd in it... u can find which one provide thes exe at packages.ubuntu.com
[05:33] <dallas> jacierss, what is install automatix?
[05:33] <RememberPOL> timalot: Yeah I did that :-/
[05:34] <orcdestroyer> javierss ?
[05:34] <RememberPOL> the libesd-alsa thing
[05:34] <martin> charle97 - sorry, spent a few hours fiddling with it - don't worry, you're probably not interested :p
[05:34] <arooni-linux> can someone please tell me how i get teh start bar type panel at the top going?
[05:34] <RememberPOL> arooni-linux: Rightclick on any other panel and hit New Panel
[05:34] <Gareth> thanks for the pointer towards conky martin, I've been looking for something like this
[05:34] <fowlduck> beerfan, more goodness, but some overlap.  I think this seems higher-qualty: http://freshmeat.net/browse/108/
[05:34] <martin> shigun - other than not tackling that, I've had virtually no problems
[05:34] <ljlolel> i love ubuntu
[05:35] <ZhangZhong> could any one tell me if there are some tuitions about how I can rebuild my kernel especially on Ubuntu 6.06?
[05:35] <Teqonix> I might give it a chance if it didn't reboot my machine upong GRUB loading it..
[05:35] <martin> gareth: no  problem - it's very handy - and you can do an awful lot with it
[05:35] <Eric2> I've been trying the past hour or two and I can't mount //Laura/Downloads to a local directory in Ubuntu 6.06, any ideas?
[05:36] <Jenkens> hrm
[05:36] <Shigun> martin: Maybe I should actually bump up to the 64 bit.  Do I need to completely reinstall Ubuntu, or what?
[05:36] <martin> shigun - skype (which I unfortunately have to use) runs through linux32, but that was a doddle nonetheless
[05:36] <charle97> martin, sorry, i was admiring the new cpu graphs.... can see that amarok code?
[05:36] <Jenkens> apache + libapache-mod-ssl doesn't give me ssl.. even if i add a 443 listen port...
[05:36] <Shigun> martin: How exactly did you accomplish that?
[05:37] <timalot> RememberPOL, what does esd --help give u?
[05:37] <Eric2> anyone here by chance have the fstab to a smbfs?
[05:37] <kaot> Eric2: I used to know how to do this.... :P  mount -t smbfs -o username=<username, password=<password>, '\\box\share\' /mnt/point i think
[05:37] <martin> shigun: I don't think I am best placed to answer that question - I went straight to 64 bit - someone with more ubuntu experience would know a lot better than me
[05:37] <kaot> Eric2: I did this all the time a few years ago but all the boxes I had set up that way are dead :(
[05:37] <ZhangZhong> could any one tell me if there are some tuitions about how I can rebuild my kernel especially on Ubuntu 6.06?
[05:37] <martin> what is the best way to exchange code snippets through xchat, anyone?
[05:37] <Eric2> kaot: I'm on the live cd, mount -t is supposed to work but it's f0rking up on me, thanks though, I'll see if it does anything ^_^
[05:37] <Shigun> martin: Now way to explain how you got skype running?  And, use pastebin
[05:38] <charle97> martin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:38] <RememberPOL> timalot: The normal output with two devices listed at bottom (just like when esd did work)
[05:38] <kaot> Eric2: error?
[05:38] <Sjoerd_> How to get sendmail working on ubuntu? It doesn't seem to be in /usr/lib/ where it should be....
[05:38] <martin> charle97 - yeah, they're nice - not my work, I found them on t'net somewhere and adapted
[05:38] <Eric2> kaot: 1 second, yeah error
[05:38] <charle97> martin, that's cool
[05:38] <martin> shigun - hang on a sec, there was a simple howto for it somewhere....
[05:38] <Shigun> martin: Alright
[05:38] <RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:/tmp$ esd -d hw:0
[05:38] <RememberPOL> - using device hw:0
[05:39] <martin> charle97 - I'll pastebin the various bits of code in a sec
[05:39] <Eric2> kaot: check your pm
[05:39] <ardchoille> martin: you can always set up your own channel and use it for exchanging code snippets
[05:39] <RememberPOL> timalot: What do you get if you do esd -d hw:0 ?
[05:39] <martin> shigun: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77069
[05:40] <martin> shigun: I just followed that
[05:40] <timalot> RememberPOL,  esd: Esound sound daemon already running ...
[05:40] <martin> shigun: and everything, including voice, worked "out of the box"
[05:40] <RememberPOL> gah
[05:40] <ttyfscker> is e17 as hard to get working on ubuntu as it is on debian?
[05:40] <martin> ardchoille: thanks - I think for now I'll use pastebin - it's late here. well, late is an understatement. it's too hot to sleep though, tomorrow is going to be rough
[05:41] <ardchoille> martin: ahh, ok
[05:41] <timalot> RememberPOL, u could try: strace -e trace=file esd    , to see what files its trying to open
[05:42] <kaot> Eric2: do what now?  got nuffin.  pastebin it?
[05:42] <beerfan> Is it possible to make kde apps use the gnome/metacity theme?
[05:42] <Shigun> Can anybody tell me if its possible to upgrade to amd64 directly?
[05:42] <SurfnKid> guys how do i know if a specific module
[05:42] <beerfan> I should say gtk theme but I guess that's silly
[05:42] <SurfnKid> has already been compiled in the kernel i have?
[05:42] <RememberPOL> timalot: http://rafb.net/paste/results/HgwHiz81.html
[05:42] <SurfnKid> is there a page to check the current loaded modules in my version
[05:42] <jorgeu> asking today again: how do i change my locales in order to drop UTF-8 locales? note: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't do it anymore (ubuntu 6)
[05:43] <beerfan> Is it possible to change the theme which kde apps use, without having kde?
[05:43] <maagimies> beerfan, no, but you can try to seek a kde theme that mostly resembles your gnome theme :)
[05:43] <beerfan> maagimies, how would I change the theme?
[05:43] <SurfnKid> !kernel
[05:43] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[05:43] <maagimies> beerfan, now _that_ I don't have answer to if you want to do it without kcontrol
[05:43] <timalot> RememberPOL, ok lookin
[05:43] <Eric2> kaot: IRC didn't send it to you?
[05:44] <Eric2> kaot: maybe it thought it was a flood
[05:44] <Eric2> kaot: 1 sec
[05:44] <narg> What package provides mysql.h?
[05:44] <RememberPOL> timalot: Any idea what /etc/ld.so.nohwcap is?
[05:44] <kaot> Eric2: dunno mang.
[05:44] <Teqonix> Well, as much as I want LAMP, apparently Ubuntu isn't going to work. Ugh.
[05:44] <ardchoille> beerfan: have a look at this: http://natsci.eckerd.edu/~bordelsr/gnomehelp/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=Gnome212.GnomeInOtherWM
[05:44] <jojoman02> IdleOne: did u get your problem resolved?
[05:44] <ardchoille> beerfan: I was told it is similar to change kde theme without having kcontrol
[05:44] <jorgeu> asking today again: how do i change my locales in order to drop UTF-8 locales? note: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't do it anymore (ubuntu 6)
[05:45] <beerfan> ardchoille, thanks I'll check it out
[05:45] <Eric2> kaot: http://pastebin.ca/79251
[05:45] <jorgeu> narg: check the "*-dev" packages related to mysql
[05:45] <ardchoille> beerfan: you're welcome :)
[05:45] <narg> There are many of them, and I have nfc which one I want
[05:45] <jorgeu> nathanj: sudo apt-get install mysql-dev
[05:45] <martin> charle97: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17214
[05:46] <jorgeu> narg: sudo apt-get install mysql-dev
[05:46] <charle97> martin, thanks
[05:46] <ljlolel> does edgy have xgl yet?  I just saw novell's screencast... amazing
[05:46] <narg> it gives a package replaced error, the one it is replaced with is something I have installed
[05:46] <Shigun> Anybody?  Possible to upgrade to AMD64 from 32bit Ubuntu?
[05:47] <ardchoille> if edgy does have xgl, that's the first thing I'll uninstall
[05:47] <jorgeu> asking today again: how do i change my locales in order to drop UTF-8 locales? note: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't do it anymore (ubuntu 6)
[05:47] <ljlolel> Shigun: You can install the 64-bit kernel
[05:47] <jorgeu> narg: no clue man, sorry
[05:47] <martin> charle97 - no problem.
[05:47] <timalot> RememberPOL, i did an strace on esd on my machine it opens similar files except the last one which opens succesfully....  the one in the /dev/snd ...
[05:47] <kaot> Eric2: ahh.  I don't know if you can specify IP addresses without a specific option in the mount command, by default it's looking for netbios names i believe
[05:47] <cubikdice_> Hey, I currently have 2 computers in my room. Computer 1 is running windows xp and is connected to the internet, it has 2 ethernet cards. The second computer is running Ubuntu. there is a cable from it to computer 1. How do i get the ubuntu machine to use the internet, using the same ip and everything?
[05:47] <Shigun> ljlolel: Anything I might be looking at in issues from that?
[05:48] <timalot> RememberPOL, its probably not working coz it's expecting /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p
[05:48] <BHSPitLappy_> hi
[05:48] <ljlolel> Shigun: Not really..  when you install a new kernel, it keeps the old ones.... so in grub, if there is a problem with the new kernel, you can just boot to the old one then remove the x64 kernel
[05:48] <FunnyHat> cubikdice_, You're going to have to setup windows xp to share the internet connection
[05:48] <Eric2> kaot: thanks for the tip, I just figured it would be more specific, guess not, ty
[05:48] <jorgeu> cubikdice_: the cable between computers cannot be a normal cable, it needs some changes in the pairs order
[05:48] <Eric2> kaot: you see anything else in the syntax by chance?
[05:48] <FunnyHat> cubikdice_, it will basically act as a router...  then you should be able to leave the ubuntu PC on DHCP for it's eth0 card and everything should work find
[05:48] <FunnyHat> (fine
[05:49] <jorgeu> cubikdice_: and you will need some routing features installed
[05:49] <david_> one more crazy question... i have downloaded the ubuntu 6.06 and i think my cdrom just isnt compatible with burnt iso cds... is there a way to run it without a cd?
[05:49] <martin> ljlolel: what about the 32 and 64 bit libraries though?
[05:49] <jorgeu> cubikdice_: like routed
[05:49] <Shigun> ljlolel: Alright, thanks
[05:49] <rockzman> Can someone help me setting up my openbox initialization?
[05:49] <kaot> Eric2: well the thing that stands out is the IP address in place of the computer name.  you might need an lmhosts file containing a name to IP mapping
[05:49] <david_> maybe, by unloading it onto the hard drive or something?
[05:49] <cubikdice_> FunnyHat, are you talking about the Bridge connection feature. last time i did that the main connection didnt work..
[05:49] <RememberPOL> timalot: http://rafb.net/paste/results/QCWcbO54.html
[05:49] <kaot> Eric2: can't for the life of me remember where that goes :(
[05:49] <ljlolel> martin: I'm no expert, so don't quote me ;-), ubuntu should handle dependencies well
[05:49] <kaot> /etc/lmhosts maybe or in your /etc/samba
[05:50] <Ratlump> !nvidia
[05:50] <FunnyHat> cubikdice_, no, you go into network connections, then on the left you click "Set up a home of small office network"
[05:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:50] <jorgeu> asking today again: how do i change my locales in order to drop UTF-8 locales? note: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't do it anymore (ubuntu 6)
[05:50] <FunnyHat> cubikdice_, that should walk you through it
[05:50] <ljlolel> what about edubuntu, i'd love to get some thin clients set up... do thin clients support sound yet?
[05:50] <jorgeu> !locales
[05:50] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[05:50] <rockzman> Ratlump: can you help me?
[05:50] <Eric2> kaot: thanks, I'll try to fix it myself and let you go, but thanks so much for the input dude
[05:51] <rockzman> kaot: hi, are you busy mate?
[05:51] <martin> ljlolel: well, me neither :p  - but I thought the 32 bit and 64 bit libs were often named the same (could be my misinformation)  - on my setup I have lib (64 bit) and lib32 (32 bit libs) - I was just assuming the 32 bit installation would just have lib, with 32bit libraries in it
[05:51] <rockzman> Can someone help me setting up my openbox initialization?
[05:51] <kaot> rockzman: not really but I've forgotten far more than I remember heh
[05:51] <rockzman> kaot: hehe
[05:51] <ardchoille> rockzman: obconf (openbox settings manager) is in the universe repo
[05:51] <rockzman> kaot:  i need some help in setting up my openbox start
[05:51] <martin> ljlolel: my understanding is limited though, so I may be talking rubbish. it sounds too obvious to be an actual problem, I was just musing
[05:52] <Shigun> ljlolel: Wait, just upgrading to the 64kernel, wont all my programs still be 32bit?
[05:52] <ljlolel> what is openbox?
[05:52] <patrickj> Hows this - http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9420/ubuntupaper5rh.png ?
[05:52] <FunnyHat> !openbox
[05:52] <ubotu> openbox is a lightweight window manager. For instructions and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Openbox
[05:52] <ardchoille> ljlolel: it's a nice window manager
[05:52] <rockzman> ardchoille: i want to run apps on the the openbox initialization
[05:52] <FunnyHat> !xubuntu
[05:52] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:52] <kaot> ahhhh
[05:52] <patrickj> !fluxbox
[05:52] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[05:52] <FunnyHat> There ya go ljlolel
[05:52] <david_> i have downloaded the ubuntu 6.06 and i think my cdrom just isnt compatible with burnt iso cds... is there a way to run it without a cd?
[05:53] <ardchoille> rockzman: you mean like this? http://icculus.org/openbox/faq.php#6
[05:53] <ljlolel> Shigun: dunno
[05:54] <rockzman> ardchoille: i'll try thanks
[05:54] <ardchoille> rockzman: also: http://icculus.org/openbox/docs.php
[05:54] <patrickj> opinions on my shitty ubuntu paper?
[05:54] <patrickj> lol
[05:55] <ardchoille> patrickj: I think that is quite nice. Good job.
[05:55] <rockzman> ardchoille: but .xinitrc only for users that do startx
[05:55] <rockzman> and my x starts automatically ardchoille
[05:55] <patrickj> lol thanks
[05:55] <timalot> RememberPOL, u could try creating the device file yourself... probably: mknod /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p c 116 48
[05:55] <patrickj> if there is any position ajustments I need to do lemme know
[05:55] <Shigun> ljlolel: I dont even see the k8 or amd64 kernel image in my repository
[05:55] <ardchoille> rockzman: read the bottom part of #6 in the FAQ
[05:55] <ljlolel> Shigun: hmm, weird, lemme see
[05:55] <martin> shigun: I think apt is clever ebough to only get the 64 bit versions if you have a 64 bit kernel
[05:56] <patrickj> working in gimp with dual lcds =  pwnage :D
[05:56] <Shigun> martin: >.< ownt in the face by synaptic
[05:56] <ardchoille> patrickj: indeed! :)
[05:56] <Geoffrey2> is Fluendo's mp3 plugin available through the repositories, or would I need to download from Fluendo?
[05:56] <rockzman> ardchoille: yea i did read
[05:56] <martin> shigun: synaptic too (I thought)
[05:56] <rockzman> ardchoille: but editing .xsession
[05:56] <rockzman> it does not work
[05:56] <rockzman> \=
[05:57] <ljlolel> Shigun: hm, i thought i saw them.. yea, i don't know
[05:57] <ljlolel> Shigun: sorry :(
[05:57] <Zaire> could anyone in here possibly pastebin their mp3 repository section from their sources list for me please
[05:57] <rockzman> ardchoille:  this file does not even exist should i create? (aswell im using gdm)
[05:57] <arooni> how do i nstall gvim on ubuntu
[05:57] <patrickj> who here uses KDE?
[05:57] <RememberPOL> timalot: open("/dev/snd/pcmC1D0p", O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[05:57] <ljlolel> Zaire: whaa, there are mp3 repositorie!?
[05:57] <arooni> i did sudo apt-get install gvim
[05:57] <ardchoille> rockzman: ok, they must have switched schemes in gdm since last I used it
[05:57] <Shigun> ljlolel: No worries.  I just want to get this hardfreeze issue resolved.  Making me really dislike Ubuntu
[05:57] <arooni> but there were many optoins....
[05:57] <martin> shigun: search synaptic for "k8"
[05:57] <ljlolel> k8 means 64-bit?
[05:58] <ardchoille> rockzman: yes, create it if it doesn't exist
[05:58] <Zaire> yeps and I need to add them to my sources list
[05:58] <RememberPOL> oh hold
[05:58] <Shigun> martin: Already did that, it didnt have a kernel image
[05:58] <RememberPOL> i fixed the mod but not the own
[05:58] <rockzman> ardchoille: mm i'll try
[05:58] <rockzman> ard thakns
[05:58] <rockzman> thanks
[05:58] <rockzman> =)
[05:58] <patrickj> I <3 dual lcds :D
[05:58] <timalot> RememberPOL, chmod 660 /dev/snd/pcmC1D0
[05:58] <timalot> RememberPOL, chmod 660 /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p
[05:58] <sonicco1> Cool , I finally got my wirless network working : )
[05:58] <ardchoille> rockzman: yw :)
[05:58] <sonicco1> Thank God
[05:58] <RememberPOL> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 48 2006-07-04 22:55 pcmC1D0p
[05:58] <RememberPOL> i had crw-rw---- 1 root root 116, 48 2006-07-04 22:55 pcmC1D0p
[05:59] <ljlolel> soniccol: , that's hard
[05:59] <ljlolel> soniccol: nice job
[05:59] <RememberPOL> open("/dev/snd/pcmC1D0p", O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK) = -1 ENODEV (No such device)
[05:59] <timalot> RememberPOL, ok
[05:59] <martin> shigun: do you have all the repositories available?
[05:59] <bradofarrell> hi
[05:59] <RememberPOL> Bad mknod args?
[05:59] <bradofarrell> I just installed xubuntu
[05:59] <Shigun> martin: I believe I do
[05:59] <bradofarrell> I'm trying to get my wireless drivers to work
[05:59] <martin> shigun: I mean univers/multiverse? it *might* be in one of them...?
[05:59] <ardchoille> hahaha
[05:59] <kaot> hm.  this gdm stuff is all new for me, first thing I used to do on a new install was set my default runlevel to not start X
[05:59] <ljlolel> aaaah, why is vim7 not here?!
[05:59] <timalot> RememberPOL, maybe... thats the numbers from my second snd device
[05:59] <RememberPOL> do you have HDA Intel?
[06:00] <timalot> RememberPOL, no
[06:00] <bradofarrell> hello?
[06:00] <patrickj> for some reason my soundcard is outputting no sound
[06:00] <RememberPOL> what are the numbers
[06:00] <martin> shigun: you dont have : linux-amd64-k8 - Complete Linux kernel on AMD K8.
[06:00] <Shigun> martin: no
[06:00] <ljlolel> me neither
[06:00] <martin> shigun: if you've updated recently, I have no idea why then!
[06:00] <LoneShadow> whats with the locales getting messed up every now and then ?
[06:00] <bradofarrell> could someone help me?
[06:00] <timalot> RememberPOL, crw-rw----  1 root audio 116, 48 2006-07-05 15:55 /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p
[06:01] <RememberPOL> ot
[06:01] <RememberPOL> oh
[06:01] <LoneShadow> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[06:01] <martin> ljlolel, shigun..... err, maybe it's because of what I said before - synaptic/apt on 32 bit kernels only get 32 bit packages....?
[06:01] <martin> ljlolel, shigun - that would explain why I have it any you dont, wouldn't it?
[06:01] <patrickj> wtf
[06:01] <patrickj> my soundcard isnt working
[06:02] <patrickj> no sound is coming out
[06:02] <patrickj> I have volume on max though
[06:02] <patrickj> and alsamixer loads my soundcard
[06:02] <timalot> RememberPOL, are u sure the kernel module for your soundcard is running
[06:02] <ljlolel> makes sense
[06:02] <RememberPOL> timalot: i'm guessing my minor number should be >18<56
[06:02] <Shigun> martin: Yea
[06:02] <arooni> how do i nstall gvim on ubuntu ?
[06:03] <RememberPOL> timalot: Yes i haven't stopped or removed or messed with any modules
[06:03] <ljlolel> arooni: sudo apt-get install gvim?
[06:03] <martin> ljlolel, shigun: I think there is a way to override that, I cant remember where I saw it though, hang on a minute....
[06:03] <ljlolel> martin: it's okay, i dont have a 64 bit chip
[06:03] <timalot> RememberPOL, can u use /dev/dsp1 or /dev/dsp ?
[06:03] <martin> charle97: you had any joy with that amarok script yet?
[06:03] <arooni> ljlolel: but there are many options
[06:03] <arooni> im not sure which to pick
[06:03] <martin> ljlolel: lol - ok
[06:03] <Shigun> martin: Is that a good idea?
[06:03] <RememberPOL> my esd was working yesterday... i might have accidentally removed pcmC1D0p when config'ing wine's audio prefs....
[06:03] <RememberPOL> timalot: No i don't have dsp
[06:04] <RememberPOL> err
[06:04] <Zaire> anyone else in here can' stand cynical users that figure they had to learn linux on there own so Sc**w helping others
[06:04] <martin> shigun: well, I don't know. I don't see why it would be a problem for installing the kernel
[06:04] <RememberPOL> they're both available but how do i "use" them?
[06:04] <timalot> RememberPOL, ok well i dont know, good luck :)
[06:04] <ljlolel> arooni: sorry, apt-get install vim-gnome
[06:04] <arooni> ljlolel: i.e. should i do gnome or gtk?
[06:04] <timalot> RememberPOL, its the oss way not alsa
[06:04] <Ares> Hello. I have, yet, another Terminal question which I don't understand from LinuxCommand. How do I go about giving everything in a directory r/w/e access to owner? Including all of its sub-directories and files? Would it be the recursive command? If so, I don't get how to use it. =( [Pleaase?]
[06:04] <martin> shigun: but as I said before - I am no expert, so this may be a case of the blind leading the blind, and you hould *probably* wait and talk to someone who knows more than I do....
[06:04] <blind> I lead myself all the time.
[06:05] <timalot> RememberPOL, if u have mplayer installed trying doin mplater so_vid -ao oss:/dev/dsp1
[06:05] <Ratlump> Does anyone here know if the ubuntu live CDs have anything like ntfsresize or similar to resize a Windows XP partition before installing?
[06:05] <FunnyHat> Ares, chmod 777 -R /path/to/dir
[06:05] <Sjoerd_> Is there anyone available that knows something about sendmail? I have it installed and it works - but really reallly slow....
[06:05] <Shigun> martin: Well, I would think all of the programs are 32bit
[06:05] <RememberPOL> timalot: right but I want ubuntu's logon/logoff sounds to work
[06:05] <RememberPOL> heh
[06:05] <ljlolel> Ares: note, that gives everybody rwe access
[06:05] <Ares> Funny: Thank you =)
[06:05] <LoneShadow> is the locales broken only for edgy or even dapper too ?
[06:05] <patrickj> im gonna reboot into the new version, 6.06 lol
[06:05] <martin> shigun: I was just trying to be helpful... but a little knowledge often *is* a dangerous thing
[06:05] <kaot> FunnyHat: that gives everyone all access
[06:05] <FunnyHat> Ares, yea, is that wahat you wanted?
[06:05] <FunnyHat> Sorry, I didn't read owner.
[06:05] <ljlolel> Ares: to only give the owner rwe access, use 700
[06:05] <FunnyHat> !!
[06:05] <RememberPOL> timalot: if you look here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/QCWcbO54.html you can notice there's some type of pattern for that second number
[06:05] <bradofarrell> could someone help me with my wireless card problem?
[06:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!
[06:05] <Ares> Funny: Sort of.
[06:05] <patrickj> ive been in 5.10 for like an hour over Ive updated it, brb
[06:05] <Ares> Funny: I have the other number code here, thanks =)
[06:06] <RememberPOL> 24,16,25,18,56,X
[06:06] <FunnyHat> Ares, Yea do what he said.  use 744 or 700
[06:06] <FunnyHat> 744 gives all to owner, and read to others
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> So right now I'm trying out using my computer hooked up to a digital projector onto a screen.  It works fine when I'm in X, but if I switch to a tty it says "No signal", rather than showing the terminal.  Anyone know why?
[06:06] <RememberPOL> >18<56
[06:06] <orcdestroyer> well... I can't load my KDE using kubuntu... why??
[06:06] <beerfan> ardchoille, those instructions are for using gnome apps in some other wm apparently
[06:06] <ljlolel> Ares: another tip, in case you forget and aren't connected to the internet,`man chmod` will give you  more innfo
[06:06] <maagimies> Ratlump, I don't know anything about ubuntu livecd, but Knoppix has qtparted which can resize ntfs partitions
[06:06] <RememberPOL> oh
[06:06] <RememberPOL> 26
[06:06] <orcdestroyer> Fatal server error
[06:06] <RememberPOL> let's try that
[06:06] <RememberPOL> lol
[06:06] <orcdestroyer> no screens found
[06:07] <orcdestroyer> what should I do about it?
[06:07] <Ratlump> maagimies: Thanks, I already know that.  Just checking if I have to play "CD jockey" to get things done..
[06:07] <martin> orcdestroyer: have you changed your xorg.conf?
[06:07] <kaot> Ratlump: 5.10 livecd has ntfsresize
[06:07] <kaot> dunno about 6.06
[06:07] <orcdestroyer> martii how I changed?
[06:07] <ljlolel> if 5.10 has it.
[06:07] <ljlolel> ..
[06:07] <FunnyHat> kaot, why would 6.06 not have it and 5.10 have it.    that's weird.  :-/
[06:08] <timalot> RememberPOL, ok... good luck... the sequence maybe different for the pcmC1D* files tho
[06:08] <kaot> FunnyHat: I didn't say it didn't have it I said I dunno :P
[06:08] <martin> orcdestroyer: I mean, have you edited it in any way yet?
[06:08] <orcdestroyer> Caught signal 1. Server aborting
[06:08] <Ratlump> kaot: Thanks!!
[06:08] <orcdestroyer> martin no
[06:08] <kaot> maybe they switched tools
[06:08] <kaot> maybe they didn't.
[06:08] <ljlolel> do i have to go to ubunut backports or something to get the beauty that is vim 7
[06:08] <orcdestroyer> martin please... help me
[06:08] <ljlolel> ?
[06:08] <RememberPOL> timalot: arg yeah it's still no device
[06:09] <RememberPOL> timalot: where can I get these numbers? lspci? manufacturer spec?
[06:09] <naknomik> Is there a GUI for mounting NFS volumes in Ubuntu?
[06:09] <SurfnKid> whats the ls argument to list directories only?
[06:09] <martin> orcdestroyer: I am no expert - but it sounds likely there is something wrong in your xorg.conf
[06:09] <orcdestroyer> yes
[06:09] <timalot> RememberPOL, umm, i think they are assigned by alsa... but i am not sure
[06:09] <RememberPOL> SurfnKid: `ls -d`
[06:09] <martin> orcdestroyer: can you paste it into the pastebin please?
[06:09] <SurfnKid> RememberPOL: i tried that, i have 3 directories, it doesnt list them
[06:09] <orcdestroyer> martin how?
[06:09] <martin> orcdestroyer: I'll see if there's anything obvious.
[06:10] <ball> Is this thing on?
[06:10] <martin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  orcdestroyer
[06:10] <martin> and xorg.conf is in /etc/X11/
[06:11] <RememberPOL> SurfnKid:  `ls -l|grep ^d`
[06:11] <ball> Does ubuntu come with "cu" by default?
[06:11] <martin> ball: no
[06:11] <RememberPOL> you mean su?
[06:12] <RememberPOL> ball: sudo su -
[06:12] <ball> RememberPOL: No, "cu" = "call up" (another device/computer/thing via a serial port)
[06:12] <RememberPOL> my bad
[06:12] <ball> martin: bugger.  Can I get it as a package?
[06:12] <ball> hello rockzman
[06:12] <rockzman> ball: yo
[06:13] <ball> hello Cornellius
[06:13] <rockzman> ardchoille: not good news it didnt work
[06:13] <martin> ball: yes
[06:13] <martin> ball: it's just called cu
[06:13] <Cornellius> ball: Hello ?
[06:13] <rockzman> ardchoille: i use gdm
[06:13] <rockzman> =\
[06:13] <rockzman> can someone help me to setup my openbox using gdm ?
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> Anyone with experience projecting a tty on a digital projector?  Gnome/X works fine, but says no signal on tty2.
[06:13] <ljlolel> apt-cache showpkg cu
[06:13] <ball> martin: thanks.
[06:13] <martin> ball: no worries
[06:14] <ljlolel> rockzman: is there an openbox irc channel?
[06:14] <ball> hello cubikdice
[06:14] <rockzman> ljlolel: i dont think so
[06:14] <ball> wow, this is a busy channel
[06:14] <cubikdice> hey
[06:14] <rockzman> ljlolel: btw i am sorry u asked what is it
[06:14] <cubikdice> yeah
[06:14] <ball> is openbox like blackbox?
[06:14] <cubikdice> sort of
[06:14] <rockzman> ljlolel:  i didnt answer ball yes openbox is a wm
[06:14] <ball> ok
[06:14] <rockzman> cubikdice: well can you help me to setup my openbox initizalization using gdm?
[06:14] <martin> are many people here using xgl, by the way?
[06:14] <skavenge> is there an actual 'menu' button when your watching a dvd in gxine?
[06:14] <ball> hello ardy
[06:15] <Cornellius> Can't use GTK based apps anymore. I'm under KDE, and go in Konsole as root and type any gtk based app. (Nautilus, Rhythmbox, gFtp) and I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17215
[06:15] <RememberPOL> timalot: I have the full history of the breakage, do you think that could help?
[06:15] <Cornellius> Anyone knows why ?
[06:15] <FunnyHat> martin, maybe not here, but I bet they are in #ubuntu-xgl   : )
[06:15] <ball> Perhaps I'll try the x86 ubuntu CD I got then.
[06:15] <martin> funnyhat: lol - fair point
[06:15] <cubikdice> rockzman, no sorry, i'm here for questions as well.. i dont know how to setup openbox besides running sudo apt-get install openbox
[06:15] <ball> are there other, more sedate ubuntu channels?
[06:15] <ball> hello crimsun, jjmacey
[06:15] <RememberPOL> Cornellius: Try running as non-root.
[06:16] <martin> funnyhat: I was more just wondering what the uptake was. personally, I didnt really dig it
[06:16] <timalot> RememberPOL, i dont think it would help me... i thinks it's a problem with alsa, u could try doing a dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base ... and some of the other alsa packages
[06:16] <rockzman> cubikdice: yes, thanks but i need some help in setting up it
[06:16] <ball> hello MajorTool
[06:16] <Cornellius> RememberPOL: It works as non-root !
[06:16] <rockzman> cubikdice: i want to know how do i set my apps to automatically runs on openbox
[06:16] <crimsun> timalot: what's the problem?
[06:16] <MajorTool> hello
[06:16] <timalot> crimsun, his esd won't run ... just exits after invocation
[06:17] <Cornellius> RememberPOL: Why does it works as non-root and not as root ?
[06:17] <crimsun> timalot: whose?
[06:17] <martin> funnyhat: I like gnome, havent tried xfce, but fluxbox is clean, and I like it - but xgl is the sort of thing I expect to see running on a mac (although that isn't a criticism), it;s just a bit spangly for my liking.
[06:17] <FunnyHat> martin, it hurts my eyes personally
[06:17] <cubikdice> rockzman, you dont setup the applications to run on open box. they'll run once your in the openbox enviorment
[06:17] <lightstar> rockzman, you gotta do it using a .xsession file
[06:17] <martin> funnyhat: I probably should have been born in germany :p
[06:17] <FunnyHat> martin, I love Gnome but XGL was just way too much eye candy to process...  it didn't seem like it was worth it
[06:17] <Cornellius> RememberPOL: I used to "sudo nautilus" to use nautilus with root privilieges.
[06:17] <Gareth> martin, xfce sounds right up your alley then (it's quite the minimalist distro)
[06:17] <lightstar> rockzman, and once u set openbox to be your default wm
[06:17] <rockzman> cubikdice: ops mate u didnt understand my question i know that what you said is right
[06:17] <timalot> crimsun, RememberPOL
[06:17] <Gareth> er, not distro but WM rhater
[06:17] <FunnyHat> martin, haha, I'm going to buy a macbook and put ubuntu on it ; )
[06:18] <martin> funnyhat: lol
[06:18] <Terinjokes> i have a couple question for Ubuntu 6.06 on the Mac (PPC). Is there a way to use the builtin wifi?
[06:18] <crimsun> RememberPOL: what's the error when you invoke esd from a Terminal?
[06:18] <RememberPOL> Cornellius: Security purposes I assume, but I'm pretty sure if you google your error you'll be able find instructions for how to allow root to run X apps by command line.
[06:18] <rockzman> lightstar: that is not about OPENBOX be my default app, i want to know how do i make my programs runs automatically when i start my openbox u understand now cubikdice
[06:18] <MajorTool> can anyone here help a newby out with nvidia drivers? Been searching the forums but have had no luck
[06:18] <RememberPOL> crimsun: auto exit
[06:18] <RememberPOL> http://rafb.net/paste/results/BxtcCu43.html
[06:18] <martin> funnyhat: I've seen a few tutorials "make gnome look like OSX"- and thought... "why!?!"
[06:19] <FunnyHat> martin, umm... my gnome does look similiar to OS X....  ; )
[06:19] <RememberPOL> as you can see i played around in /dev/snd but didn't touch pcm*
[06:19] <Cornellius> RememberPOL: Nah, that's an error. I was able to do it this morning.
[06:19] <crimsun> RememberPOL: ...that's history, not debug spew.
[06:19] <FunnyHat> martin, www.funnylookinhat.com    go to the second post for screenshots
[06:19] <RememberPOL> sorry h/o
[06:19] <FunnyHat> martin, but it's simply because it's easier for me to keep track of the few apps I need
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> If anyone answered me, please send again - was disconnected.
[06:19] <ba> wtf is ubuntu alternate?
[06:20] <crimsun> ba: the installer? It's text-based and not a live cd.
[06:20] <ba> oh. lame
[06:20] <RememberPOL> crimsun: esd -debug ?
[06:20] <max_nooby_noob> Hi guys
[06:20] <ba> to many people with to much time on their hands doing useless stuff, when they could be using their time for better things
[06:21] <max_nooby_noob> I'm trying to install the new ati drivers for linux
[06:21] <Phoul> anyone have the link to the ubuntu forums post about "howto e17"?
[06:21] <martin> funnyhat: it looks nice - I'm more against all the fluid aps and icons growing etc
[06:21] <crimsun> RememberPOL: no, just esd
[06:21] <Terinjokes> so is it possible to use Airport
[06:21] <RememberPOL> crimsun: yeah there is _no_ output
[06:21] <lightstar> rockzman, if you want an app to run automatically once you start openbox, the only way to do it is to put it in a .xsession file
[06:21] <max_nooby_noob> the instructions from the ati site says to Enter the command sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-i386.run to launch the 32bit version of the ATI Proprietary Linux driver installer
[06:21] <RememberPOL> no alien sound byte
[06:21] <RememberPOL> just auto-exit
[06:21] <max_nooby_noob> but when I do I get the following message:
[06:21] <martin> majortool: what is the problem?
[06:21] <crimsun> RememberPOL: ok, do you have the output from ``strace -fF esd'' pastebinned?
[06:21] <max_nooby_noob>  command not found
[06:21] <rockzman> lightstar: yeah i did it and it didnt work, u want me to paste my .xsession file so u can check ?
[06:21] <max_nooby_noob> please help
[06:21] <RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:/dev/snd$ esd
[06:21] <RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:/dev/snd$
[06:22] <RememberPOL> no
[06:22] <crimsun> ba: what does "useless stuff" refer to?
[06:22] <jorgeu> asking today again: how do i change my locales in order to drop UTF-8 locales? note: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't do it anymore (ubuntu 6)
[06:22] <cfh_dev> I have an IDE raid controller setup with RAID 1.  I can see both drives separately in /proc/diskstats.  How do I point to the raid controller?
[06:22] <crimsun> RememberPOL: please pastebin it, then.
[06:22] <ba> anyone from canada in here? i got a bunch of kubuntu disks i forgot i ordered
[06:22] <lightstar> rockzman, is openbox your default wm now?
[06:22] <rockzman> lightstar: it has been since i installed
[06:22] <ba> crimsun, ubuntu alternate
[06:22] <rockzman> lightstar: i want to set things to runs on openbox automatically
[06:22] <max_nooby_noob> the file is in my home directory
[06:23] <lightstar> rockzman, how did u make openbox your default wm?
[06:23] <crimsun> ba: it's not at all a "waste". It succeeds where the graphical version tends to bomb.
[06:23] <RememberPOL> crimsun: k, http://rafb.net/paste/results/oWIb8137.html
[06:23] <Shigun> ,, shall ask again since there are more people now
[06:23] <max_nooby_noob> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.26.18-inst.html
[06:23] <jorgeu> asking today again: how do i change my locales in order to drop UTF-8 variants? note: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't do it anymore (ubuntu 6)
[06:23] <Shigun> Is it possible to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit, without having to reinstall Ubuntu?
[06:23] <ba> crimsun, true i guess...
[06:23] <lightstar> rockzman, you have to choose "use system default"..only then will the .xsession file be read
[06:23] <rockzman> lightstar: i had 5.10 and on gdm i could choose my default wm so i installed the package and choose openbox
[06:23] <ba> i dunno i havent used linux in awhile. i go threw phases where i use it and then i dont
[06:23] <lightstar> rockzman, choose "system default"..and make sure .xsession is executable
[06:24] <ba> im into multimedia stuff and linux just isnt where i would like it to be
[06:24] <crimsun> RememberPOL: and pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc*''
[06:24] <martin> ba: what multimedia stuff?
[06:24] <max_nooby_noob> pretty please?
[06:24] <RememberPOL> crimsun: BTW line 353 usually said "no file" before I came for help because I tried to mknod that PCM device but it's probably the wrong MAJOR seq #
[06:24] <jorgeu> !UTF-8
[06:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about UTF-8
[06:24] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, hey man, it worked... i got it to use the internet :D i installed openssh-server and it's running...but when i connect to it from the windows machine i get connection refused. i even turned off the windows firewall
[06:24] <MajorTool> Thanks martin: I used Automatix to install my nvidia driver for GeForce FX 5900XT but I loose my X-Server on reboot and have to restore xorg.conf to fix it.
[06:24] <rockzman> lightstar:  well, if i but my login and password on gdm and it runs openbox it means it is my default wm right?
[06:24] <jorgeu> !localeconf
[06:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about localeconf
[06:24] <ljlolel> !locales
[06:24] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[06:25] <Shigun> Anybody?  Possible to upgrade to 64bit from 32bit, without a reinstall?
[06:25] <RememberPOL> http://rafb.net/paste/results/2JGhIK34.html
[06:25] <martin> ba: I've just moved from XP to ubuntu, and for most things, linux has something to comete with windows apps
[06:25] <ba> martin: graphics, video, audio... you can tell me linux is there. iv been an active member in the community for years but we all need to be honest with ourselves... its just not there yet...
[06:25] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, openssh-server on the linux box???  and it's being refused?  Weird....
[06:25] <RememberPOL> crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/2JGhIK34.html
[06:25] <ajay_> ba, absolutely true
[06:25] <ljlolel> ba: linux is there
[06:25] <max_nooby_noob> how do I navigate to a place where my file is dl'd on terminal?
[06:25] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, Check to make sure you're connecting to the right IP address and that the windows box isn't taking that request instead of the linux one.
[06:25] <jorgeu> ljlolel: already saw it, it says that "dpkg-reconfigure locales" should work, but it doesn't
[06:25] <max_nooby_noob> Launch the Terminal Application/Window and navigate to the ATI Proprietary Linux driver download.
[06:25] <max_nooby_noob> Enter the command sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-i386.run to launch the 32bit version of the ATI Proprietary Linux driver installer
[06:26] <crimsun> RememberPOL: why not use the onboard?
[06:26] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, how wouldi check that?
[06:26] <ljlolel> jorgeu: as in, it crashes?
[06:26] <crimsun> RememberPOL: ``asoundconf set-default-card Intel''
[06:26] <crimsun> RememberPOL: I also need ``lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*''
[06:26] <martin> ba: it depends *what* you're using. blender, IMO, is close to, if not alongside 3D studio max, and the GIMP is pretty handy these days (although still no 16 bit editing)
[06:26] <lightstar> rockzman, no don't choose openbox as the wm. choose system default so that it will read the .xsession file. and do remember to put the path to openbox at the end of the file
[06:26] <RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:~$ ``asoundconf set-default-card Intel''
[06:26] <RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:~$
[06:26] <rockzman> ah
[06:26] <ba> well its not that linux isnt there yet. it is..... it just needs more companys making software for it.... it needs more apps.... like photoshop and apps
[06:26] <naknomik> What packages I need to install for mouting NFS volumes?
[06:26] <crimsun> RememberPOL: now the pastebin.
[06:26] <ba> id be willing to pay for them too
[06:26] <rockzman> lightstar: ah now i understand like "exec openbox"
[06:26] <skavenge> what  resolution is considered widescreen on a laptop?
[06:26] <jorgeu> ljlolel: it just start to genereate the already configured locales and don't let me choose wich generate
[06:26] <rockzman> lightstar: how do i set it up?
[06:27] <RememberPOL> pol@pol-laptop:~$ esd
[06:27] <RememberPOL> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[06:27] <rockzman> lightstar: does gdm has this option?
[06:27] <max_nooby_noob> anyone?
[06:27] <ba> i find people do better work when they get paid to do it... the world doesnt run off volenteers
[06:27] <martin> ba: I'll admit that for sound, I can't argue quite as well... but I've used audacity with success - it's no cubase, but it's not bad
[06:27] <cheeseman557> hi, how do i get into rescue mode?
[06:27] <ljlolel> jorgeu: i see what you mean
[06:27] <ba> ya i use audacity in windows to make my podcasts. its pretty nice
[06:27] <ba> gets the job done
[06:27] <RememberPOL> crimsun: btw i think something I did in that history broke it... unless it was a GUI invoke i did during that time
[06:27] <jorgeu> !hate UTF-8
[06:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about hate UTF-8
[06:27] <Cornellius> Yay ! Problem solved
[06:27] <RememberPOL> crimsun: either way I know it was during that history's time frame..
[06:28] <martin> ba: I think that's a perception thing - I tend to think the opposite
[06:28] <jorgeu> !don't want UTF-8
[06:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about don't want UTF-8
[06:28] <crimsun> RememberPOL: if it's a permissions issue, you can just reboot
[06:28] <JaiMa> ba: When I have to do something because it's work I'm not as motivated as when I do it because I want to
[06:28] <martin> both are probably true under different circumstances
[06:28] <RememberPOL> crimsun: No i have rebooted several times
[06:28] <ba> martin, im not doing full scale recordings so audacity works for me
[06:28] <RememberPOL> but i'll try now again
[06:28] <jorgeu> asking today again: how do i change my locales in order to drop UTF-8 locales? note: "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't do it anymore (ubuntu 6)
[06:28] <ljlolel> jorgeu: what does localedef do?
[06:28] <ba> martin, i record podcasts for nerdxcore.net when i feel like it sometimes
[06:28] <jorgeu> !want iso-8859-1
[06:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about want iso-8859-1
[06:28] <ljlolel> jorgeu: utf8 is awesome though ;-)
[06:29] <jojoman02> anyone wanna try out my supersimple mencoder frontend?
[06:29] <jorgeu> ljlolel: not for spanish
[06:29] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, well the linux box bound to a wierd 192.*.*.* number when i ran dhclient3 so i think thats ok..but even when i try connecting to the ssh server from the linux box using local host..it will wont work...
[06:29] <martin> majortool: I dont use automatix - but what changes have you made to your xorg.conf?
[06:29] <jorgeu> ljlolel: i really hate UTF-8
[06:29] <crimsun> jorgeu: pass a whitespace-delimited list of first-column locales from /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED to locale-gen
[06:29] <ljlolel> jorgeu: really? it has fewer characters than others?
[06:29] <max_nooby_noob> anyone?
[06:29] <cheeseman557> how do i get into rescue mode?
[06:29] <martin> ba: cool - so what doesnt linux have that you need (I'm not arguing, I'm just interested)
[06:30] <jorgeu> ljlolel: it just has a lot of incompatibilities with my apps and my language
[06:30] <max_nooby_noob> c'mon guys
[06:30] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, most SSH servers will not allow connections from <IP_ADDRESS> or localhost by default in the config...
[06:30] <ba> martin, i dunno lots of nice apps....
[06:30] <RememberPOL> crimsun: thanks to your leetness.
[06:30] <martin> ba: lol - come on, you've got to give an example!
[06:30] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, Can you connect to the ssh from the windows box by going to the 192.*.*.* address?  you should be able to.  Well then agian, you may not be able to depending on how windows networking works.  I've never tried.
[06:31] <RememberPOL> Thank you very much Mr. T. Chen.
[06:31] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, but you _SHOULD_ be able to if it's working the way it's advertised
[06:31] <zcat[1] > Bonzi Buddy ?
[06:31] <ljlolel> jorgeu: so a lot of spanish apps use something other than utf-8?
[06:31] <zcat[1] > :-)
[06:31] <skavenge> what resolution is considered widescreen on a laptop?
[06:31] <crimsun> RememberPOL: "Daniel" is fine.
[06:31] <jorgeu> ljlolel: iso-8859-1
[06:31] <RememberPOL> But, can you happen to peep what I did in that history to f*** up in the first place?
[06:31] <crimsun> RememberPOL: does it work now?
[06:32] <MajorTool> martin: I haven
[06:32] <ljlolel> jorgeu: I see.. that sucks.. and o/s or whatever doesn't upconvert it to utf-8?
[06:32] <MajorTool> 't made any changes
[06:32] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, how do i find out what ip the ubuntu box is running?
[06:32] <RememberPOL> And thanks timalot.
[06:32] <ljlolel> ifconfig
[06:32] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, go to the box and type ifconfig eth0 in the terminal
[06:32] <RememberPOL> crimsun: Yeah it works.
[06:32] <zcat[1] > !zcat
[06:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about zcat
[06:32] <crimsun> RememberPOL: excellent.
[06:32] <zcat[1] > bah!!
[06:32] <timalot> RememberPOL,  if it f*cks up again maybe /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[06:32] <ba> martin, ok lemme look threw some of my apps. itunes.... also i notice im lazy and hate learning commands and tweeking with shit
[06:32] <ba> i like it to just work
[06:32] <jorgeu> ljlolel: going reboot, i have try your workaround
[06:33] <jorgeu> ljlolel: thanks
[06:33] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, actually just ifconfig will work, that ensures that it will show you whatever device (eth*) is connected
[06:33] <martin> ba: aha... maybe that's the problem? :p
[06:33] <ba> dont get me wrong im a huge linux advocate but since i stopped using it i realized how simple windows can be.... after you fix it and maintain it a little
[06:33] <BHSPitLappy_> need some help
[06:33] <ba> martin, naw usability is the probably
[06:33] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[06:33] <martin> ba: I'm j/k - click and play rules for most people, I admit
[06:33] <BHSPitLappy_> when my laptop returns from Suspend mode, the screen shows vertical brown bars, and the system is completely frozen
[06:33] <wubrgamer> i'm looking for a jumping off guide to using apache
[06:33] <cheeseman557> how do i get into rescue mode?
[06:33] <RememberPOL> Heh... if it were as easy as a service restart then why wouldn't it start working after restarting several times already?
[06:33] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, alright. that works
[06:33] <BHSPitLappy_> I really need Suspend to be functional
[06:34] <ba> i dunno im downloading the latest release of ubuntu now...
[06:34] <maagimies> ba, windows is even harder then linux, in linux I can upgrade _all_ my apps with one command, in windows you hunt down the packages from their websites
[06:34] <lumgwada> hey any quick fixes for getting sound in flash on firefox ?
[06:34] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, ok so use that IP from the windows box in PuTTY or whatever SSH client you are connecting with
[06:34] <max_nooby_noob> guys I can't get the ATi Proprietary Linux Driver installer to launch. Can someone please help me?
[06:34] <RememberPOL> crimsun: the code you gave me specifically helped, and I needed to restart to probably fix permissions on your code...
[06:34] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, but i have a domain that points to my ip..and when i try to use it..it doesn work.
[06:34] <kaot> FunnyHat: got a question about that actually... I seem to recall using AllowFrom and DenyFrom directives in sshd_config, but man sshd_config doesn't show those options now and the default sshd_config doesn't have those examples in there.  I haven't tried using them yet. What gives?
[06:34] <ceplma> Is there any standard way how to migrate to Ubuntu (in my case Kubuntu) from Debian?
[06:34] <RememberPOL> I had restarted several times without sound working before I came into here for help
[06:34] <martin> ba: I dont see how anything could be simpler than "sudo apt-get install blender" for example, and there's you 3d editor/rendered.... compare that to installing MAX - takes ages, you've got licensing, several CDs, choose where to put it, blah blah blah
[06:34] <kaot> are they not available in new sshd?
[06:34] <ba> also another things that boggles me with linux is the "distro" ... there are so many with so many different and nice features... you miss out on so much by not trying them all. and when you try them all it takes forever and then they have a new release
[06:34] <BHSPitLappy_> ceplma, migrate how?
[06:35] <patrickj> for some reason my sound isnt workiung :'(
[06:35] <crimsun> patrickj: pastebin ``lspci -v && lsmod && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[06:35] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, because the windows box is not forwarding port 22 (SSH) requests to the linux box.
[06:35] <RememberPOL> lol
[06:35] <max_nooby_noob> please, somebody
[06:35] <RememberPOL> patrickj: are you serious?
[06:35] <zcat[1] > that reminds me, I should go pull my spare soundcard out
[06:35] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, how do i set that up?
[06:35] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, unfortunately I'm not sure that windows shared internet connections support that sort of routing
[06:35] <cheeseman557> hey, how do i get into rescue mode?
[06:35] <martin> majortool: are you using the rolled-back xorg.conf now?
[06:35] <ceplma> BHSPitLappy_: Well, I would like just to change /etc/apt/sources.list and run aptitude update; aptitude upgrade; but I am afraid it won' be that easy, right? ;-)
[06:35] <ba> cubikdice, you still fucking my cousin??
[06:35] <MajorTool> martin: yes
[06:35] <cubikdice> ba, yeah
[06:35] <mircea> hello all
[06:35] <FunnyHat> ba, please watch your language
[06:35] <FunnyHat> !language
[06:35] <cubikdice> ^_^
[06:36] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:36] <mircea> how can i add multiverse in 606?
[06:36] <ba> cubikdice, wrap that duder
[06:36] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, i achully am
[06:36] <BHSPitLappy_> ceplma, oh, you'd actually like to change a debian install into a ubuntu one?
[06:36] <martin> majortool: all you should need to change in it is "nv" to "nvidia"
[06:36] <cubikdice> ba, w0rd
[06:36] <max_nooby_noob> is this the support group?
[06:36] <patrickj> RememberPOL: http://pastebin.ca/79282
[06:36] <ba> haha
[06:36] <ceplma> BHSPitLappy_: yeah
[06:36] <skavenge> !multiverse
[06:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:36] <FunnyHat> cubikdice, ????
[06:36] <internat> howdy, i just bought a leatek dtv2000h which uses the  Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder but buggers me if i can get it to work.. any suggestions?
[06:36] <mircea> thank you very much :)
[06:36] <cubikdice> FunnyHat, ...having sex with his cousin
[06:36] <cubikdice> :P
[06:36] <BHSPitLappy_> ceplma, can't help you there, I'm not sure if that can be done
[06:36] <ljlolel> BHSPitLappy_: you can change sources.list, but it might not work
[06:36] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: i'd help but i haven't worked up the nerve to try installing fglrx or whatever it's called
[06:36] <BHSPitLappy_> cubikdice, watch it
[06:36] <ba> cubikdice, true story... were not even kidding
[06:36] <ba> i mean
[06:36] <ba> FunnyHat, its true... he is
[06:37] <BHSPitLappy_> ljlolel, it's ceplma
[06:37] <cubikdice> lol yeah, kinda creepy beeing on IRC tho
[06:37] <cubikdice> lol
[06:37] <FunnyHat> kaot, sorry but the text is scrolling way too fast for me to keep up!!  ^_^:;;;  if you don't see the option in that config file I don't know what to say.  I would suggest looking on ubuntuforums.org or googling around for the name of hte config file to see an exampe
[06:37] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: most of what i've seen on the topic implies that i'm gonna b0rk my junk
[06:37] <max_nooby_noob> kaot: it's the ATi drivers
[06:37] <cubikdice> sorry BHSPitLappy_
[06:37] <FunnyHat> ba, cubikdice Just please keep it clean in here.
[06:37] <ba> cubikdice, iv been on irc since before you could wdalk
[06:37] <max_nooby_noob> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.26.18-inst.html
[06:37] <cubikdice> ba, most likely
[06:37] <martin> ba: I think it was just the language he was objecting to, not the actual act of getting it on with your cousin :p
[06:37] <skavenge> ive never quite learned to wdalk
[06:37] <ba> or use ssh for that matter :D
[06:37] <max_nooby_noob> all I need is someone to help me launch the installer.
[06:37] <max_nooby_noob> I can't figure it out
[06:37] <kaot> FunnyHat: well I remember the name of the directive, i'm just trying to figure out if i'm imagining ever having used it or if they took it out or what.  i'll research a bit more, was just curious if you knew offhand.
[06:37] <skavenge> i mean i can walk, and talk, but wdalk? oh boy
[06:38] <crimsun> patrickj: in a Terminal, amixer set 'Analog Front' 80%
[06:38] <ba> martin, i object to the act of him getting it on with my cousin...
[06:38] <ba> *shudder
[06:38] <martin> ba: lol
[06:38] <mircea> unfortunately, software properties is not opening
[06:38] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: installer?  there's an installer?
[06:38] <ba> cubikdice, want some new kubuntu disks?
[06:38] <ba> i got a bunch in the mail today
[06:38] <mircea> Skaven, ^
[06:38] <RememberPOL> lol crimsun, are you going to be able to tell me specifically why it broke?
[06:38] <martin> ba: I'd offer to step in, but I imagine you're in the states... :p
[06:38] <max_nooby_noob> yes, an ati proprietary linux driver installer
[06:38] <ba> martin, naw im canadian
[06:38] <mircea> skavenge, that think is not working
[06:38] <_mabus> I know this isn't the place to ask... but where might I get somebody to kill a connection that my machine has made to this server? A mysterious client is connected and won't ping out.
[06:38] <cubikdice> ba, nah waiting for mine
[06:38] <mircea> s/think/thing
[06:39] <FunnyHat> kaot, ooh ok.  Yea I am positive the option is still in there.  It's a huge security issue to allow root and localhost to connect usually....
[06:39] <kaot> this is awesome.  i used linux from like 2000-2004, took a year or two off when my computers broke, and now i feel like a total nub all over again.  hehe
[06:39] <ba> cubikdice, its pretty nice... linux is taking hardware pretty good these days
[06:39] <martin> ba: aha... bad assumption
[06:39] <crimsun> RememberPOL: I haven't reread your shell history, and I'm fairly busy atm. Please be patient.
[06:39] <patrickj> crimsun: worked, thanks :D
[06:39] <max_nooby_noob> see this link: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.26.18-inst.html
[06:39] <crimsun> patrickj: np
[06:39] <ba> i still wish i could get osx86 working native on my dell though
[06:39] <martin> ba: either way, I'm 3000 miles away
[06:39] <cubikdice> so is there a way to port forward port 22 on my windows box to my linux box
[06:39] <cheeseman557> hey, how do i get into rescue mode?
[06:39] <RememberPOL> crimsun: Sorry Daniel.  Again thank you for your help..
[06:39] <ba> cubikdice, you using a router?
[06:39] <patrickj> sleepy time
[06:39] <cubikdice> ba, i'm a gnome kinda guy
[06:39] <patrickj> night all :P
[06:39] <ba> or iptables?
[06:39] <cubikdice> ba. no thats the thing
[06:40] <bjv> cubikdice: windows 2000 i know can do that.
[06:40] <cubikdice> its connected throw my other ethernet card
[06:40] <ba> well why isnt it just working?
[06:40] <cfh_dev> Is mdadm or evms the preferred raid utility?
[06:40] <RememberPOL> Heh, goodnight patrickj you guru wizard!
[06:40] <_mabus> cubikdice: you should have the linux box as the router, then
[06:40] <cubikdice> bjv, well how do i go about doing it
[06:40] <max_nooby_noob> kaot: all I need is someone to get me to launch it from terminal. everytime I try it says: wrong command or no such file or directory
[06:40] <bjv> cubikdice: sorry, it has been about 4 years.. -_-
[06:40] <cubikdice> _mabus, well it's to late now..i'm trying to get this to work
[06:40] <cubikdice> bjv: thanks....
[06:40] <_mabus> too late?
[06:41] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: oh, go to the directory where you downloaded it, type sh ./ati then hit tab, should autocomplete the whole filename, then hit enter.
[06:41] <kaot> that should run it for you
[06:41] <cubikdice> _mabus, that requiers changing my room around :P
[06:41] <MajorTool> thanks martin... i'll give it a shot.
[06:41] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[06:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:41] <RememberPOL> crimsun: Do you know any non-afk freenode ircops?
[06:41] <max_nooby_noob> go to the directory from terminal? how?
[06:41] <max_nooby_noob> note my name
[06:41] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: you downloaded it, yes?
[06:41] <ljlolel> haha
[06:41] <max_nooby_noob> yes
[06:41] <kaot> do you recall where you saved it?
[06:41] <bjv> cubikdice: im not really involved in windows systems anymore, try in #windows? im certain it was a windows 2000 server machine the exact language im trying to recall.
[06:41] <max_nooby_noob> it's in my home directory
[06:41] <Cornellius> How to configure the sound now ? My sound is too  "fast" !
[06:42] <max_nooby_noob> home/USERNAME/
[06:42] <cubikdice> alright
[06:42] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: ok so when you open the terminal it should default to your home dir.  so just type what i said
[06:42] <crimsun> RememberPOL: it's not a good idea to recreate device nodes (udev manages them for you if you use the default Ubuntu kernel and udev)
[06:42] <bjv> cubikdice: i remember that when enabled, there was an entry in the 'internet connections' dialog for 'outgoing'
[06:42] <Jack_Sparrow> sudo sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh
[06:42] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: ooo wait.  you might need to sudo that
[06:42] <kaot> lol
[06:42] <RememberPOL> crimsun: I'll keep that in mind, but I was mindlessly taking advice from timalot
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> max_nooby_noob:  sudo sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh
[06:43] <max_nooby_noob> that worked
[06:43] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[06:43] <max_nooby_noob> that worked! but then it said: you need to run the install as "super user"
[06:43] <max_nooby_noob> what the hell is that?
[06:43] <crimsun> RememberPOL: /stats p    should give you ircop status
[06:43] <kaot> lol
[06:43] <kaot> what's what?
[06:43] <ljlolel> sudo
[06:43] <ljlolel> su = super user
[06:43] <FunnyHat> max_nooby_noob, that means put sudo before the command
[06:43] <ljlolel> sudo = super user do
[06:44] <bjv> cubikdice: routing and remote access! that is what they called their NAT
[06:44] <cheeseman557> hey, how do i get into rescue mode?
[06:44] <jorgeu> ljlolel: ok, i had to change the file locales.def from gdm configuration and delete the line conrresponding to es_VE.UTF-8 and now everything work well. Thanks for the workaround
[06:44] <ljlolel> (or su means switch user)
[06:44] <max_nooby_noob> what's the fglrx...?
[06:44] <someothernick> ati driver
[06:44] <ljlolel> jorgeu: good work
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> max_nooby_noob:  Did you even try to follow these
[06:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !ati
[06:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:44] <cubikdice> bjv, achully i think i just found out how :) your hunch lead me in the right direction
[06:44] <ljlolel> jorgeu: how hard would it be to update the locales wiki with that info so that everyone else will have an easier time?
[06:45] <max_nooby_noob> ok I'll enter sudo sh ./fglrx
[06:45] <jorgeu> ljlolel: no clue
[06:45] <jorgeu> !locales
[06:45] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[06:45] <kaot> hmmm.
[06:45] <ba> hahaha, i just rememberd i have a loudblog install
[06:45] <ba> weird
[06:45] <ljlolel> jorgeu: if you set up an ubuntu account it'd take a second
[06:45] <cubikdice> bjv, is the ssh port 22 UDP or TCP?
[06:45] <ljlolel> ;-)
[06:45] <kaot> tcp
[06:45] <rockzman> Which client is lighter on ubuntu aMSN or GAIM?
[06:45] <ljlolel> i imagine tcp
[06:45] <max_nooby_noob> it said: sh: ./fglrx-uninstall.sh: No such file or directory
[06:45] <_mabus> How can I kill a client that is connected from my machine?
[06:46] <cubikdice> ba, you gotta set me up an SQL Database sometime
[06:46] <_mabus> It is preventing me from getting to freenode on my own computer
[06:46] <kaot> max_nooby_noob: I don't think you got that command quite right
[06:46] <ba> http://loudblog.nerdxcore.net/index.php?id=4
[06:46] <Jack_Sparrow> max_nooby_noob:  Did you even try to follow the link I gave
[06:46] <ljlolel> _mabus: ps aux shows processes, kill 1234 where 1234 is the pid should do it, no?
[06:46] <cheeseman557> hey, how do i get into rescue mode?