[00:31] <infinity> cjwatson: Oh, hrm.  I suppose I could fix this in base-files-udeb instead.
[00:31] <cjwatson> Please tell me there isn't a base-files-udeb.
[00:31] <cjwatson> Do you mean rootskel?
[00:31] <infinity> Oh, or, whatever has the base filesystem. :P
[00:32] <cjwatson> Doesn't seem like the ideal place to work around PI things, though.
[00:32] <infinity> I hadn't looked.
[00:32] <infinity> Well, that's how amd64 works around it.
[00:32] <infinity> By shipping the lib64 -> lib symlink.
[00:32] <infinity> If I fix this in mklibs (which doesn't look too painful), that could go away.
[00:32] <cjwatson> True.
[00:33] <cjwatson> So you mean a /lib/armhfouyqwourtuwtriqur -> /lib symlink?
[00:33] <infinity> But it would be just as easy to ship.. .Yeah.
[00:33] <infinity> It's one or the other.  Symlink the directory, or have mklibs install ldlib to its full path.
[00:33] <cjwatson> I guess that wouldn't be totally awful, although a proper fix would be better
[00:33] <infinity> The latter feels more correct, but the other hack already exists for amd64.
[00:33] <cjwatson> No upgrade problems, at least.
[00:34] <cjwatson> So we can switch later.
[00:34] <infinity> What, you mean you don't regularly install apt in your d-i initrds and upgrade them?
[00:34] <infinity> :P
[00:35] <infinity> So, yeah, what's responsible for that lib64 symlink?    It feels more correct to fix it in mklibs, but I'm also not sure what fallout that might cause when it tries to install amd64's PI to /lib64
[00:37] <infinity> (which is correct, but I have no idea what order these things happen in)
[00:38] <cjwatson> We'd have to fix mklibs then upload eglibc and rootskel at around the same time, yes.
[00:38] <infinity> eglibc wouldn't need an upload.
[00:39] <infinity> It gets ldlib path from readelf.
[00:39] <cjwatson> Oh, yeah, duh
[00:39] <infinity> Where it lives in the udeb is irrelevant.
[00:39] <infinity> As I discoverde. :P
[00:39] <infinity> discovered, too.
[00:39] <cjwatson> The d-i build system unpacks all the base udebs (probably in roughly alpha order) and then runs mklibs.
[00:39] <cjwatson> So if it has a symlink there it might even work OK.
[00:40] <infinity> But yeah, I could remove the link from rootskel and fix mklibs.  It's tempting.
[00:40] <infinity> Or, true, if the link's already in place, it would probably DTRT, since it's not absolute.
[00:40] <cjwatson> right
[00:40] <infinity> Yeah, maybe I'll fix this the way that seems more elegant, even if it's more work.
[00:41] <infinity> Cause adding a new symlink for any new arch with a m-a PI seems broken.
[00:41] <cjwatson> At run-time, udpkg basically just extracts stuff by calling tar
[00:41] <cjwatson> It wants libc6-udeb when it gets to the point of retrieving further installer components beyond its base system, since only the base system gets reduced so it needs a full libc at that point
[00:42] <cjwatson> Still a bit odd that it worked before that point for Tobin.
[00:43] <infinity> I'm moderately unsure as to what Tobin's breakage is right now.  I'll need to play.
[00:43] <cjwatson> I can't quite think why specifically unpacking a new libc6-udeb would have hosed things if the problem was that the PI was in the wrong place.
[00:43] <infinity> Well, he moved his PI to the right place manually and repacked the initrd.
[00:44] <infinity> Otherwise, he would have never gotten that far.
[00:44] <infinity> Does udpkg freak out about overwriting unowned files?
[00:45] <infinity> I suppose it couldn't possibly, or this reduction business would fail horribly.
[00:46]  * infinity blinks and wonders where qemu-system-arm went.
[00:48] <infinity> Oh, in universe, in qemu-system.    Boo.
[00:57] <infinity> S'ok.  I can test the mklibs stuff locally.  I just wanted to see if I could reproduce Tobin's thing.  Which will have to wait for my Panda or QuickStart to be idle.
[00:57] <infinity> Silly bootstrapping.
[00:57] <infinity> Err, just my Panda.
[00:57] <infinity> No QS images either. :P
[00:57] <cjwatson> Fair enough.  I'll leave you to reproduce with Tobin. :-P
[00:57] <cjwatson> (I'm sure you needed that image)
[00:58] <infinity> Dot dot dot.
[00:58] <infinity> I hate you SO MUCH right now.
[00:58] <cjwatson> You know, I don't think I know anyone else who spells out ellipses.
[00:58] <infinity> Sometimes, you need to.
[00:58] <infinity> For maximum effect.
[04:38] <infinity> cjwatson: Would appreciate comments and/or laughter on http://lucifer.0c3.net/~adconrad/mklibs.patch
[04:38] <infinity> cjwatson: (Presented as an upload to sid rather than precise, as Debian/armhf needs the fix just as badly)
[04:41] <infinity> cjwatson: As called by d-i, both mklibs and mklibs-copy appear to DTRT with my patchs for armhf, amd64, and i386.
[04:41] <infinity> cjwatson: Can't think of any corner cases that might blow up, but I also didn't feel the overwhelming desire to actually read all of mklibs.
[07:31] <cjwatson> infinity: ld_path_name == "/lib/" will never be true, as dirname doesn't return something with a trailing slash
[07:33] <cjwatson> (not foo == bar  =>  foo != bar)
[07:36] <cjwatson> infinity: I know it was partly pre-existing, but testing os.access(dest_path + "/" + ld_file_name, os.F_OK) seems bizarre - why would the PI *basename* exist in dest_path?  Should that be s/ld_file_name/ld_full_path/?
[07:36] <cjwatson> (OTOH maybe I'm missing something odd that mklibs does)
[07:37] <cjwatson> infinity: seems basically plausible though
[10:56] <infinity> cjwatson: No, dest_path is lib/  Which seemed effin' wrong to me too, but that's how the code it written.
[10:57] <infinity> s/it/is/
[10:58] <infinity> cjwatson: And point taken on ld_path_name not containing a trailing slash.  Oops.
[11:00] <infinity> cjwatson: (dest_path being lib instead of root is why I then install to ../ld_full_path)
[11:00] <infinity> cjwatson: The whole this is just plain weird.
[11:01] <infinity> cjwatson: patch updated.
[11:24] <CIA-16> ubiquity: adconrad * r5108 trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fix the armhf symlinks to point to actual files
[12:38] <ogra_> hmpf, seems my cia setup is broken, i just released ubiquity 2.9.7
[12:42] <ogra_> sigh and i'm missing 100MB of build deps ...
[12:42] <ogra_> fun
[12:43]  * ogra_ twiddles thumbs waiting for them to install
[13:13] <infinity> ogra_: Are you testbuilding before you upload, after chastising me for wanting to do the same? :P
[13:14] <ogra_> infinity, nope ...
[13:14] <infinity> So... You uploaded?
[13:14] <ogra_> but i would appreciate if someone else could upload i dont get my chroot right here and dont want to waste another hour
[13:14] <infinity> Oh.  I was just going to do an -nc upload.  No refresh.
[13:14] <infinity> Cause I'm a filthy cheater.
[13:15] <ogra_> it needs bout 100MB build deps to even roll a source package :/
[13:15] <cjwatson> how about I just upload it, guys :)
[13:15] <ogra_> and somehow thats still not working ... its so long ago that i built ubiquity that i have to check the docs ... grmbl
[13:15] <ogra_> cjwatson, please do
[13:16] <cjwatson> also just changing the name in the changelog and not adding [ Colin Watson ] (e.g. as dch -r does) is a bit rude :)
[13:16] <ogra_> ah, i was missing a debian/rules update
[13:16] <cjwatson> not that I vastly care
[13:16] <ogra_> oops, sorry ... i didnt see a reference to infinity either (though he explained that above)
[13:17] <cjwatson> up to people to put themselves in the changelog if they want
[13:17] <ogra_> right, it was just confusing
[13:19] <cjwatson> uploading now
[13:20] <ogra_> bah, and now my chroot works :P
[13:20] <ogra_> well, at least i have it ready for next time
[13:20] <ogra_> and i know that armhf chroots work for building source packages :)
[13:20] <cjwatson> you don't need most of the build-deps to build the source package anyway
[13:21] <ogra_> well, it complains and stops if i dont have some of the python bits
[13:21] <cjwatson> -d
[13:21] <ogra_> (pyflakes etc)
[13:21] <cjwatson> oh, yeah, sure, but that's small
[13:21] <cjwatson> point is you don't need everything
[13:21] <ogra_> i didnt feel brave enough to -d ... (i noticed the note indeed)
[13:21] <ogra_> well, i have a proper chroot for next time ... so thats already good :)
[13:22] <cjwatson> you don't have to be brave; you can try it and then check that the debdiff looks right.
[13:22] <infinity> ^
[13:23] <cjwatson> I think you should just need debhelper, dh-di, and pyflakes, maybe one or two other bits.  certainly not most of the libraries.
[13:23] <infinity> Like I said, I was just going to do an -nc upload.  But not if everyone else was falling over themselves to upload. :P
[13:24] <cjwatson> -nc is fine if you've done 'debian/rules update' and there were no Python changes, yes.
[13:24] <cjwatson> It's worth running 'make -C d-i check' though.
[13:28] <ogra_> hmm, but xz is really bad on arm
[13:29] <ogra_> even ctrl-c'in the xz creation took 5 mins until it got through ...
[13:30] <ogra_> depressing
[13:33] <infinity> On which machine?
[13:33] <ogra_> ac100 indeed
[13:33] <infinity> The ac100's 512M of RAM doesn't really make it shine.
[13:33] <ogra_> in an armhf chroot
[13:34] <infinity> My phone has more. :/
[13:34] <ogra_> intrestingly compressing inside the hf chroot seems to be lots and lots heavier than unpacking under armel in the host rootfs
[13:35] <cjwatson> xz compression is a lot slower than decompression anyway
[13:35] <ogra_> apparently
[13:36] <cjwatson> Fairly well-known.
[13:36] <cjwatson> (But, for a source package, I'd still rather take a couple of minutes longer and save the space.)
[13:36] <ogra_> but i was hoping that hf improves it a bit
[13:36] <ogra_> vs el
[13:36] <cjwatson> I would be surprised if it did any significant floating-point work.
[13:36] <ogra_> yes, apparently it doesnt
[13:36] <cjwatson> Compression algorithms rarely do, although there's the odd exception.
[15:51] <bdmurray> In bug 901502 I see the following in syslog:
[15:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 901502 in ubiquity "I booted into Lubuntu Installation rather than running installation from the live desktop. After inputting my user info and proceeding, the installer encountered an error." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/901502
[15:51] <bdmurray> Dec  7 20:19:58 ubuntu kernel: [   28.072013] loop1: rw=0, want=13608534816, limit=1048576
[15:52] <bdmurray> Dec  7 20:19:58 ubuntu kernel: [   28.072021] EXT2-fs (loop1): error: ext2_free_branches: Read failure, inode=98360, block=1701066851
[15:52] <bdmurray> Dec  7 20:19:58 ubuntu kernel: [   28.072023] attempt to access beyond end of device
[15:52] <bdmurray> Is that indicative of media or memory issues?
[18:44] <infinity> cjwatson: I'm uploading my mangled mklibs as an ubuntu1 revision for now, so we can test it.  Feel free to give it an eyeball or two and upload to Debian and sync over my changes.
[21:41] <infinity> Damn.  I guess I should have tested my new mklibs with a full d-i build.
[22:42] <infinity> Oh, FFS.
[22:42] <infinity> *headdesk*
[22:42] <infinity> lrwxrwxrwx  1 adconrad adconrad    4 Oct 17 15:01 lib64 -> /lib
[22:42] <infinity> Thanks, whatever udeb unpacked that symlink.
[22:46] <stgraber> :)
[22:46] <infinity> Apparently the concept of relative symlinks is a lost art.
[22:46]  * infinity fixes.
[22:47] <infinity> And, it's debhelper's fault?
[22:47] <infinity> debian/rootskel.links.amd64:lib lib64
[22:47] <infinity> ^-- That's creating absolute links?  Ick.
[22:51] <infinity> You know, I'm tempted to just take the links out of rootskel.  I don't really need them anymore.
[22:57]  * infinity does so, and feels pretty good about the whole affair.


[05:45] <jayze> so I had a quick question. I am using gnome now, Notice that I don't really like how system resource dominant it is. I don't really want to reinstall however I would like to try budgie out as it is setup from this distro spin. Is there a way to do that by just installing some packages?


[01:09] <eschatron> honk
[01:31] <duanedesign> hello eschatron
[02:15] <eschatron> duanedesign: sorry, i had to step out.  are you still around?
[02:15] <duanedesign> yes hello
[02:15] <eschatron> hi.  were you respoding because you can help me?
[02:16] <duanedesign> i can try :)
[02:17] <eschatron> thank you.  i'm simply trying to keep some shared files across two kubuntu boxes
[02:18] <eschatron> i'm using the ppa kde client.  perhaps i should wait for a more official one, but i'm hoping that isn't the only way
[02:19] <eschatron> i installed the packages on both machines and added them to my ubuntuone account, but only one of them succeeds in uploading anything, and then only sometimes
[02:19] <eschatron> and neither one downloads anything
[02:19] <duanedesign> eschatron: what does this command return:  dpkg -l ubuntuone-client
[02:20] <eschatron> assuming you want the version number, 1.0.3-0ubuntu1
[02:25] <duanedesign> ok
[02:28] <duanedesign> if you want to look and see if ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[02:28] <duanedesign> contains anythhing
[02:29] <duanedesign> if so could you pastebin it at http://paste.ubuntu.com
[02:29] <eschatron> i don't seem to have one
[02:33] <duanedesign> eschatron: ok well we can look at  ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log
[02:34] <eschatron> duanedesign: http://paste.ubuntu.com/421393/
[02:37] <eschatron> you know, i just dropped in a new file and that one uploaded.  so i guess both machines upload intermittently
[02:42] <eschatron> ok, and now it did arrive on the other machine.  this is a first
[02:43] <eschatron> perhaps i've wasted your time
[02:43] <duanedesign> eschatron: no thats ok
[02:44] <duanedesign> eschatron: U1 is not as fast as it could be when syncing lots of small files
[02:44] <eschatron> what is lots?  because i tried 6 files around 50k each and gave up after an hour.  3 of them made it
[02:50] <duanedesign> eschatron: does this command return anything in KDE.
[02:50] <duanedesign> dbus-send --session --print-reply  --dest=com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon --type=method_call /status com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Status.current_status
[02:50] <eschatron> yes, do you want the output?
[02:51] <duanedesign> no thats ok
[02:51] <duanedesign> That is a good way to see what is going on
[02:51] <duanedesign> string "queues"
[02:51] <duanedesign> string "WORKING_ON_CONTENT"
[02:51] <duanedesign> that is what mine says
[02:52] <duanedesign> if you are expecting it to be uploading you generally dont want that to be IDLE
[02:52] <duanedesign> string "connection"
[02:52] <duanedesign> string "With User With Network"
[02:52] <duanedesign> thats good
[02:53] <eschatron> i seem to have different headings, but i believe i understand anyway
[02:53] <duanedesign> you dont want something like without user without networ
[02:53] <eschatron> i have "is_connected" "True" and "is_online" "True"
[02:53] <duanedesign> that is good means its connected to server
[02:54] <duanedesign> is online might be False for a short time when you first start up
[02:54] <duanedesign> while it does Local_Rescan
[02:54] <eschatron> i see
[02:54] <eschatron> it seems like everything works right now, i've gotten files moved in both directions
[02:54] <eschatron> thank you for your help
[02:55] <duanedesign> absoloutely
[03:36] <facundobatista> duanedesign, if you're more interested in the internals, you may find a good graph in docs/states_manager.svg
[03:36] <facundobatista> duanedesign, any doubt, just ask
[03:37] <duanedesign> facundobatista: oh wow! thank you
[03:38] <facundobatista> duanedesign, btw, it's easier to ask the state by doing u1sdtool --status
[03:38] <facundobatista> duanedesign, and there're rumors that a full GUI is being worked somewhere
[03:39] <duanedesign> facundobatista: he was on 1.0.3. Been awhile since I used it but i thought it didnt have u1sdtool -s
[03:40] <facundobatista> duanedesign, mmm... I really didn't use u1sdtool before a couple of months ago, but I think it was there from the early days
[03:41] <duanedesign> :)
[03:41] <duanedesign> oko
[04:51] <kermiac> rye: duanedesign: is there a workaround for "STANDOFF_WAITING_WITH_NETWORK_WITH_BOTHQ" bug 487257
[04:52] <duanedesign> hello kermiac
[04:52] <kermiac> hi duanedesign :)
[04:53] <duanedesign> i need to look at my irssi settings. I am not getting pinged when my name is mentioned :(
[04:53] <kermiac> I'm not having much luck with the poor op in bug 565391. They're now experiencing ^^
[04:55] <kermiac> duanedesign: any suggestions for the next step? I'm not sure what he should try next (apart from wait 6 days for lucid hehe - not the best way to resolve the issue)
[05:00] <duanedesign> 2010-04-23 17:22:05,647 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.fsm - WARNING - OSError [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/gotardo/.cache/ubuntuone/partials/a555bf40-0483-4354-8efa-2579212419ff.u1partial.Ubuntu One' when trying to remove partial_path '/home/gotardo/.cache/ubuntuone/partials/a555bf40-0483-4354-8efa-2579212419ff.u1partial.Ubuntu One'
[05:01] <duanedesign> not sure what that means..
[05:02] <kermiac> hmmm me either
[05:03] <duanedesign> kermiac: i wonder what is causing his connection to go off
[05:04] <kermiac> duanedesign: yeah, seems strange that it appears to connect for a very short time than drops out
[05:04]  * kermiac shrugs
[05:04] <kermiac> maybe another one to ping rye about later hehe
[05:05] <duanedesign> kermiac: he  could upgrade to the PPA version.
[05:05] <kermiac> I've had the poor op almost jumping through hoops trying to help him get up & running but nothing I'm suggesting seem to work
[05:06] <kermiac> duanedesign: ah, that's an idea... I'll suggest that :)
[05:06] <kermiac> it's one of the only things I haven't had them try hehe
[05:06] <duanedesign> kermiac: might warn him of the applet being replaced by the Preferences panel
[05:07] <duanedesign> on my karmic box I made a custom launcher in my panel that runs ubuntuone-preferences
[05:07] <duanedesign> kinda like having the applet.
[05:08] <kermiac> yup, will do. do you know if u1sdtool has more functionality in the ppa version? like will it have the u1sdtool -s ?? I haven't used the ppa version on my karmic box
[05:08] <kermiac> duanedesign: custom launcher is a good workaround :)
[10:27] <freakabcd> hi all
[10:27] <duanedesign> hello freakabcd
[10:27] <freakabcd> does using U1 require me to register my machine?
[10:28] <freakabcd> i heard a friend of mine say that you have to register your machine or something similar
[10:28] <duanedesign> you need to tell it which computers you want to connect to your Ubuntu ONe account
[10:30] <freakabcd> why?
[10:31] <freakabcd> i thought my friend was joking. because why would a 'computer' (ip addr/mac addr/hostname/something_else) need to be registered
[10:32] <Treenaks> because that's how U1 works (and it's not the hostname/something else, afaik it's just a random key generated at install time/first run time)
[10:32] <Treenaks> but don't quote me on that :)
[10:32] <freakabcd> is this possibly being listed as a security feature? If yes, is there a way to just simply 'mount' the cloud drive and use it on any ubu machine i/my friend's have
[10:32] <Treenaks> If you use Ubuntu One on a "new" Ubuntu machine, it will send you to a login page
[10:33] <Treenaks> After the login page, you will need to confirm that that machine has access to your U1 account
[10:33] <Treenaks> then everything just works
[10:33] <Treenaks> also, give your friend a separate account - you can share files between accounts easily :)
[10:35] <freakabcd> umm.. and how does it work? i.e. I specify a dir as my U1 main folder ?
[10:35] <Treenaks> There's ~/Ubuntu\ One
[10:35] <Treenaks> that's your "main" folder
[10:35] <Treenaks> and you can select other folders for sharing using nautilus
[10:35] <Treenaks> (= the file manager)
[10:35] <freakabcd> also can i have shared_public, shared_group and private folders/files ?
[10:36] <Treenaks> Files are private by default, you can share with people (don't know about groups)
[10:36] <freakabcd> i mean on the cloud.. not just the local acls
[10:36] <Treenaks> and there's public sharing
[10:36] <duanedesign> freakabcd: you can share a file with a public URL
[10:36] <freakabcd> i mean can i specify a folder to be shared with some other users, but not everyone ?
[10:37] <duanedesign> and share a folder with fellow U1 users
[10:37] <freakabcd> i.e. something like .htaccess in apache
[10:37] <Treenaks> freakabcd: not as detailed as htaccess, but you can share specific files/folders with specific users, and/or the whole world (publically)
[10:39] <freakabcd> umm.. and my friend said to look at dropbox and spideroak as well.
[10:40] <freakabcd> since i've never used any of these facilities, i'm not sure what i'm looking for.. but essentially i'm looking for some encrypted storage and sharing (which isn't just private/global)
[10:40] <Treenaks> they don't integrate with Ubuntu quite as nicely :)
[10:40] <Treenaks> also, they don't have an awesome music store :)
[10:40] <freakabcd> well, i'm not after music or just ubu integration. i use windows and other distros at work
[10:41] <freakabcd> anyway, if i signup, and use it for a while and then i decide to use one of the other services, can i ask for the account to be deleted?
[10:41] <freakabcd> i wouldn't want to be wasting space
[10:47] <duanedesign> freakabcd: here is a nice thread on encrypting data while using dropbox Ubuntu One
[10:47] <duanedesign> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8517221
[11:30] <freakabcd> duanedesign: cool.. thats pretty much what i was looking for.. guess i'll give both U1 and dropbox a go.. thanks
[11:48] <PaulGit> Is anybody else getting an Oops logging into the U1 Web UI this morning?
[11:51] <PaulGit> It appears to be related to the Dashboard :9
[12:06] <rye> couchdb is down
[12:30] <duanedesign> hello rye
[12:32] <duanedesign> PaulGit: yes you are right. https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ works fine. it is just https://one.ubuntu.com
[12:33] <PaulGit> duanedesign: Hi, not sure what is up.  I will head over to LP and submit a bug shortly.
[12:34] <PaulGit> duanedesign: Does the same on edge.one.ubuntu.com also.
[12:35] <rye> duanedesign, already pinged losas :(
[12:36] <rye> duanedesign, i have a nagios script that checks couchdb nearly ready, just need to find out how to get oauth tokens
[12:36] <rye> PaulGit, couchdb is down
[12:36] <PaulGit> rye: Mmm, I wonder if that explains my gwibber issues too!  Thanks
[12:37] <rye> PaulGit, replication for couchd is broken, phone sync, dashboard, notes and contacts, note syncing is down
[12:37] <rye> grrr, LOSA!!!
[12:37] <PaulGit> rye: Ahh, I won't continue with my contacts testing then!
[12:51] <rye> losas restarted the couchdb service
[12:56] <rye> couchdb is temporarily brought down to confirm the issue
[13:06] <rye> PaulGit, duanedesign, couchdb is back up and additional monitoring script is now installed
[13:07] <PaulGit> rye: Thanks for letting us now.
[14:25] <duanedesign> rye: i have a couple of files that I deleted some time ago that are now showing up on the new webUI. They are greyed out and I am unable to do anything them. http://people.ubuntu.com/~duanedesign/U1.dashboard.SS.png
[16:56] <mhall119> hey, I was having a discussion about a possible port of Steam to Linux, is there any thoughts on making a game deliver client for Ubuntu One, kind of like the music store?
[17:05] <duanedesign> hello mhall119
[17:07] <duanedesign> mhall119: most the developers are not on during the weekends. You can usually catch them on weekdays between 13:00-21:00 GMT
[17:08] <mhall119> thanks
[17:20] <rye> duanedesign, the greyed-out files are the files that were left in uploaded state but haven't uploaded - the legends say that there was such kind of issue with older client version (and waaay older than karmic)
[17:27] <duanedesign> rye: do you know i might get rid of them?
[17:28] <rye> duanedesign, they will be cleaned up by ubuntuone staff
[17:29] <rye> duanedesign, these files are the files that were made by MakeFile() call, but no content was delivered to the server
[17:29] <duanedesign> ohhh, ok I see
[17:29] <rye> duanedesign, so basically we'll need to wait until corresponding query is run
[17:40] <duanedesign> rye: i am hoping to have a GUI for my 'packageSync' application done this weekend. I was getting so many good ideas for files to sync it was time to add a checklist instead of a series of Y or N questions
[17:41] <duanedesign> Since it is growing beyond syncing dpkg selections I will have to rename it too
[17:46] <rye> duanedesign, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneConf
[17:49] <duanedesign> rye: how did you find that?
[17:50] <duanedesign> rye: I think that is where the wiki page I made will come in handy
[17:50] <duanedesign> so the community can benefit from one anothers work and not duplicate effort
[17:50] <rye> duanedesign, frankly speaking - i don't remember but I have visited that page earlier so when you mentioned that it rang a bell
[17:53] <duanedesign> rye: i was mainly curious if he came around here. I will email him and introduce myself. Hopefully we can collaborate
[18:54] <Syco> Hi guys, I've just upgraded to 10.04, set up an ubuntu one account and I click on the ubuntu one app in prefrences and it doesn't let me add my computer, is there somewhere else I can go?  I try throught he site and all it tells me is to install the application which I already have :(
[18:55] <Syco> honk
[18:56] <rye> Syco, have you set up ubuntuone account before 10.04?
[18:56] <Syco> No, I hadn't
[18:56] <rye> Syco, ok, so right now you have ubuntuone-preferences application running, right?
[18:57] <Syco> Well, not right now, I can re-open it
[18:57] <Syco> I just click on "Ubuntu One" in preferences right?
[18:57] <Syco> I have "unknown" for account, e-mail and plan in it
[18:58] <Syco> Could it be that I have Chrome set as default browser?
[18:59] <rye> Syco, we had problems with Opera, but chrome worked ok... is there Device tab in ubuntuone preferences and do you have 'connect' button in it?
[18:59] <rye> let me check chrome.. you are using chrome, not chromium, right?
[18:59] <rye> Syco, ^
[19:00] <Syco> Chrome, yes
[19:00] <Syco> There is a device tab and there is a connect button, I just clicked it
[19:01] <Syco> It took me to the ubuntu one page the same one I get when I click "manage account"
[19:02] <Syco> I click "View the machines connected to this account" and I get "You haven't added any computers or devices to your Ubuntu One account. To get started please visit the installation details."
[19:02] <rye> Syco, ok, it should ask you to add your machine
[19:02] <Syco> if I click that it just tells me to install the client which I already have
[19:04] <rye> Syco, when you click 'connect' button it should bring the page that has 'Add your machine' with a text entry box that lists the hostname of your computer. What page do you get instead, could you please copy the title?
[19:05] <Syco> OK, I closed and re-opened, clicked connect and it took me nowhere
[19:05] <Syco> pretty sure it took me to http://one.ubuntu.com/account before though
[19:06] <Syco> Should I try setting firefox to the default browser and try again?
[19:06] <rye> Syco, ok, - quick fix - open the terminal and run u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login
[19:07] <rye> Syco, then you will open preferences and connect button should work. I am checking now how it works with clean system... it does not look like it is reliable :(
[19:07] <Syco> ok, I've run that
[19:07] <Syco> ooo
[19:07] <Syco> it looks like it's working
[19:08] <Syco> waiting ... waiting...
[19:08] <Syco> wewt, thanks!
[19:08] <Syco> Is there a chrome plugin in the works to backup bookmarks?
[19:11] <Syco> And, sorry for the questions, but are any folders by default shared with it or do I need to manually set them?
[19:11] <rye> Syco, the default sync folder is Ubuntu One in your home directory, you can add more folders though
[19:11] <Syco> great
[19:11] <Syco> was hoping it wasn't my whole home folder is all, I keep a messy collection :)
[19:11] <rye> There was initial work for chromium plugin but i am not really sure it has succeeded much
[19:12] <Syco> oh ok
[19:12] <Syco> I don't really want to go back to firefox, it's gotten too bloated for me heh
[19:12] <Syco> thanks a lot for your help, it's now working!
[19:12] <Syco> have a good day/night and if you're aussie "Lest we forget"
[19:12] <rye> Syco, you might also want to know that currently ubuntuone is very sensitive to the _number_ of files you are syncing.
[19:12] <Syco> Oh
[19:12] <Syco> higher the worse?
[19:13] <rye> Syco, 1000 files/folders are ok, but if you have more then it will be not as fast.
[19:13] <Syco> I really just want to sync text files with information I can't lose, things like bank account login numbers (but not passwords), M$ keys etc etc
[19:13] <Syco> and the odd photo probably
[19:13] <rye> Syco, ah, that's fine
[19:14] <Syco> Thanks again for the help!
[19:14] <Syco> Have a good day/night :)
[19:14] <rye> Syco, thanks for heads up about chromium :)
[20:04] <duanedesign> rye: strange, have you been able to reproduce the ubuntuone-login bug?
[20:15] <rye> duanedesign, no, it does open chromium & chrome in this case but it looks like when you failed to authenticate/closed the browser it won't let you do it agaain since it is waiting for oauth info state
[21:02] <cviniciusm> Hello.
[21:03] <cviniciusm> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx RC 64 Bit.
[21:03] <cviniciusm> I'm not able to add my computer to Ubuntu One.
[21:03] <cviniciusm> Is there a command to do that, please?
[21:04] <duanedesign> hello cviniciusm
[21:04] <cviniciusm> Hi.
[21:04] <duanedesign> you have signed up for an account and now you just need to aqdd your computer?
[21:06] <cviniciusm> Yes, I have an account, the first time I used Ubuntu One, the NoScript plugin blocked the page to add computer. And now, I don't know how to add my computer.
[21:06] <cviniciusm> I have uninstalled NoScript plugin.
[21:06] <duanedesign> cviniciusm: you should just be able to open Ubuntu One from the Me Menu or Preferences
[21:07] <duanedesign> and when you click connect it takes you to the website to add your computer
[21:07] <duanedesign> if it is not there is an easy fix
[21:07] <cviniciusm> No, when I click to connect nothing happens.
[21:07] <duanedesign> ok
[21:07] <duanedesign> Close the preferences window
[21:08] <duanedesign> open a Terminal and run the following command:
[21:08] <duanedesign> u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login
[21:08] <duanedesign> then you will open preferences and connect button should work.
[21:09] <cviniciusm> $ u1sdtool -q; killall ubuntuone-login ubuntuone-syncdaemon stopped.
[21:09] <duanedesign> yep
[21:10] <cviniciusm> Nop yet.
[21:10] <duanedesign> then open Ubuntu One and click connect and the browser should open the site
[21:10] <cviniciusm> The account tab is empty. It should shows my account information?
[21:11] <cviniciusm> Should it shows my account information?
[21:11] <duanedesign> not till you add your computer
[21:11] <cviniciusm> unfortunaly, no.
[21:11] <duanedesign> it says <local machine>
[21:12] <cviniciusm> yes, <LOCAL MACHINE> .
[21:12] <duanedesign> what does the command: xdg-open http://one.ubuntu.com
[21:13] <duanedesign> do
[21:13] <duanedesign> that should open the Ubuntu One website in your browser
[21:14] <cviniciusm> nothing happens.
[21:14] <duanedesign> what is your default browser?
[21:15] <cviniciusm> sorry, it opens the Ubuntu One Dashboard.
[21:15] <duanedesign> System > Preferences > Preferred Application
[21:15] <duanedesign> oh ok
[21:16] <cviniciusm> I was logged on it before, so I was confused.
[21:16] <duanedesign> can you go to Open Applications->Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys
[21:18] <duanedesign>  Click on the arrow next to "Passwords" and look for Ubuntu One Token
[21:18] <cviniciusm> netstat -tlnp shows me the port tcp/40269 and tcp/42500, which tcp/40269 is the ubuntuone-login .
[21:19] <cviniciusm> If I open localhost:40269 on the browser, it shows a dialog page with "administrator" subject and username and password to login.
[21:22] <duanedesign> cviniciusm: did you see an Ubuntu One Token under Applications->Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys
[21:22] <cviniciusm> If I click Dashboard tab, the appers a page with 500 error.
[21:23] <duanedesign> cviniciusm: yeah they have been working on that today
[21:24] <cviniciusm> No, the only Ubuntu One that I see is on System -> Preferences -> Ubuntu One.
[21:25] <duanedesign> this would be Passwords and Encryption Keys
[21:25] <duanedesign> in the Applications menu
[21:29] <cviniciusm> I have the following packages installed: python-ubuntuone, python-ubuntuone-client, python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol, rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store, ubuntuone-client and ubuntuone-client-gnome .
[21:33] <duanedesign> if you have an Ubuntu One Token in 'Passwords and Encryption Keys' that might be why you are not able to add your computer
[21:34] <duanedesign> Passwords and Encryption Keys is installed by default under the Applications > Accessories menu
[21:49] <cviniciusm> Hello,
[21:49] <cviniciusm> I was logged off because wrong authentication on freenode.
[21:50] <cviniciusm> Thanks for the help.
[21:50] <cviniciusm> Bye.
[22:44] <NateW1> how can i delete a share with another ubuntuone user?
[23:05] <duffydack> oo, liking the new dashboard
[23:06] <duffydack> NateW1, is it on the webpage/dashboard ?
[23:38] <NateW1> duffydack: sorry.. its in the files tab
[23:41] <topyli> i'm having problems with the new files tab, using epiphany
[23:58] <NateW1> i have a share that was between me and another user. how do i remove it from my ubuntuone account?
[23:59] <mattgriffin> Nafallo: did you create the share?
[23:59] <mattgriffin> NateW1: sorry... did you create the share?
[23:59] <mattgriffin> Nafallo: sorry. wrong nick :)


[07:32] <guiverc> kc2bez, just fyi & re: 1864787 & mention in release notes for impish;  install failure today (1945849) maybe related.. a box where issue wasn't expected. current score ~= 1/clean & 1/fail


[12:23] <christoffer> Does "quickly edit" do any fancy code checking when closing files or does it just open the project files in gedit?
[15:02] <htc> Hi
[15:03] <htc> How can I publish my application for Ubuntu 12.04 and 12.10?
[15:03] <htc> Do I have to submit a new application for 12.10?
[15:04] <coolbhavi> yes htc
[15:04] <htc> Ah, ok.
[15:04] <htc> Thanks
[15:05] <coolbhavi> if there are any improvements compatibility issues. then it needs an update
[15:05] <coolbhavi> what is ur app name?
[15:06] <htc> "Black Silk"
[15:06] <coolbhavi> is it submitted to myapps portal?
[15:07] <htc> yes
[15:07] <htc> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/786/
[15:07] <coolbhavi> ok ll take a look
[15:07] <htc> Thanks :)
[15:08] <htc> I just submitted a new release.
[15:10] <Swve> Hello
[15:12] <Swve> Anyone there?
[15:12] <htc> yes
[15:12] <Swve> So for Ubuntu you can develop apps in Java too?
[15:14] <Swve> Why does this IRC let people see each others's IP?
[15:52] <coolbhavi> htc, I am not able to see the page
[15:53] <coolbhavi> its coming as access denied though m a part of the App Review board
[15:54] <coolbhavi> by any chance is your app a commercial app
[15:54] <coolbhavi> ?


[16:44] <smoser> Tybstar, it is one from https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/ . anything there should work fine.
[16:53] <Tybstar> smoser: thanks. i found what i needed via reading the json responses. turns out one of the newer lucid images has problems with ssh  running in eucalyptus.
[16:53] <smoser> Tybstar, i am not aware of such issues.
[16:53] <smoser> please open a bug
[16:53] <Tybstar> smoser: are those teh same machine images that are from uec-images.ubuntu.com?
[16:53] <smoser> and include the console output
[16:54] <smoser> yes, the image store pulls from uec-images
[16:54] <smoser> i have to go now, but please open a bug and subscribe me (smoser)
[16:54] <Tybstar> smoser: alrighty, i will see if i can get some useful information together for you.
[16:54] <Tybstar> later!
[16:54] <smoser> and please include console output