[16:38] <nahtnam> Hey! I found this command online. iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s 0/0 --sport 1024:65535 -d <ip>  --dport 5432 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT Im not really sure what it does.
[16:40] <nahtnam> what is the last port you can use?
[16:41] <nahtnam> Is it 65535?
[16:41] <icedwater> That sounds about right to me. Have you tried it?
[16:42] <rypervenche> nahtnam: What version of Ubuntu are you running? The state module is no longer used in iptables and was replaced with conntrack
[16:42] <nahtnam> rypervenche: 14.04
[16:44] <rypervenche> nahtnam: Yeah, use -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,ESTABLISHED instead
[16:44] <rypervenche> nahtnam: Also make sure that ufw is turned off if you plan on using iptables
[16:45] <nahtnam> so `sudo ufw disable`?
[16:47] <rypervenche> nahtnam: I don't have enough experience with upstart to be able to answer that. Someone else here will have to help you with that.
[16:49] <nahtnam> rypervenche: Thanks a lot for your help!
[16:49] <nahtnam> I got it workign! :)
[16:50] <rypervenche> nahtnam: Also, you don't need to specify the sport if you don't need to.
[16:50] <nahtnam> rypervenche: Too late :D
[16:51] <jhutchins> nahtnam: This is a pretty good reference on IPTABLES stuff: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[16:51] <nahtnam> thx
[16:51] <jhutchins> It's meant for setting up a firewall and somewhat RH oriented, and a little old, but still one of the better guides.
[16:52] <jhutchins> nahtnam: THis is a more thorough project for hardening a nework: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~dranch/LINUX/TrinityOS/cHTML/TrinityOS-c.html
[16:52] <jhutchins> nathanbbb: Remember that on-system firewalls are a stupid windows concept, your firewall needs to be on your router.
[16:52] <nahtnam> Thats a lot of docs :D
[16:53] <nahtnam> jhutchins: I cant do that, I use digitalocean
[16:53] <jhutchins> nathanbbb: With an on-system firewall every packet still reaches your kernel.
[16:53] <sitd> see you later
[16:54] <Guest79332> Hello
[16:57] <apinsv> Is there any indicator in ubuntu to display whether there is internet connectivity in real time?
[16:58] <sydney> Guest79332: Hi (if you have a question,just ask) ;)
[16:59] <mojtaba> Hi, I am running ubuntu 14.04 LTS on Dell Studio 1555. The problem is that when I suspend the machine the next time the wireless is totally disabled. When I suspend the machine and run it again the wireless is working fine. (I have this problem after upgrading ubuntu) This occurs every other time at system boot up. Does anybody know what should I do?
[17:00] <milan> mojtaba: Try to change WiFi settings...
[17:00] <mojtaba> milan: There is no wifi (ifconfig shows just lo)
[17:01] <rt44> does anyone know how to convert .install files to .rt files?
[17:02] <milan> mojtaba: Hm, this is getting confusing. Did you try to restart your computer?
[17:02] <mojtaba> milan: Yes, and every other time it is working and not working.
[17:02] <rt44> ?
[17:02] <menace> Hi, i have font/presentation issues with kvm-instances of ubuntu 14.04 on a 14.04 host. any idea how to solve this? the only hint, that i'm not the only one with this is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1968728
[17:02] <duckbug> mojtaba: maybe some strange error at /var/log/pm-*.log?
[17:03] <sydney> mojtaba: Is it possibly your wifi card?
[17:03] <milan> I agree with that, maybe its hardware problem.
[17:03] <mojtaba> sydney: I did not have this problem before. (it is after upgrading to 14.04 LTS)
[17:03] <sydney> rt44: I have no clue... :P
[17:03] <braulio> Hello everyone, Lubuntu automatically locks the screen when my computer is idle, I think I marked the options to not do that, but it doesn't work. Am I doing something wrong?
[17:04] <sydney> mojtaba: It could still be your wifi card though. Do you have another on you could try? usb?
[17:04] <mojtaba> duckbug: which one?
[17:05] <mojtaba> sydney: no. :(
[17:05] <sydney> mojtaba: hmm...
[17:05] <mojtaba> It is working and not working with 100% probability
[17:05] <mojtaba> in each restart
[17:05] <sydney> mojtaba: if you hook it up using ethernet,do you have a prob?
[17:06] <mojtaba> sydney: I did not test that, because I do not have such one
[17:06] <sydney> mojtaba: ok ;)
[17:08] <milan> Everytime when I open Skype and Chromium, Ubuntu gets laggy. I sent report about this bug. Is there any way to fix this?
[17:08] <milan> BTW, I must shutdown computer because its too laggy
[17:09] <trijntje> milan: arent' you just out of RAM?
[17:09] <sydney> milan: How much ram? What version of ubuntu?
[17:10] <milan> 2gb of RAM, but its integrated on motherboard. The newest version of Ubuntu.
[17:10] <marduk191> Is there a kernel update or anything that will make git checkouts stop crashing in 14.04?
[17:10] <milan> sydney: 2gb of RAM, but its integrated on motherboard. The newest version of Ubuntu.
[17:11] <sydney> milan: DOes the HD become bogged down,or what causes the lagginess,or are you not sure?
[17:12] <milan> Im not sure. But Im just sending instant messages over Skype and reading news on Chromium.
[17:13] <sydney> Hmm...
[17:13] <sydney> milan: it could be swap,graphics card,or cpu...
[17:14] <sydney> or all of them ;)
[17:14] <apinsv> i cannot control brightness of display for acer laptop with ubuntu 14.04
[17:14] <milan> Hardware is cheap....
[17:15] <milan> apinsv: Did you tried with Fn button?
[17:15] <sydney> milan: Thats how come you can buy computer so cheap :P they are made to b replaced every 3 years...
[17:16] <apinsv> milan: i can see the indication of brightness change slider, but no change in brightness
[17:16] <milan> sydney: BTW thanks :)
[17:17] <sydney> milan: np for what ever i did. :P
[17:17] <sydney> apinsv: What model laptop?
[17:18] <apinsv> sydney:acer aspire e1-531
[17:19] <marduk191> So there is no way to use ubuntu with git then? I have 7 compile machines, 3 of them use ubuntu and are freshly updated, all 3 crash (hard reboot) on git checkouts.
[17:19] <trijntje> marduk191: checkout of what?
[17:20] <marduk191> repo syncs, the when checking out branches it just freezes then hard reboots
[17:20] <sydney> apinsv: looking...
[17:21] <trijntje> marduk191: does it run out of memory?
[17:21] <marduk191> no, I run 17 920's with 12GB ram in all three machines.
[17:22] <trijntje> did you check if it runs out?
[17:23] <marduk191> feed me commands. I'll give you any output you want lol.
[17:23] <marduk191> but yes, it was sitting at around 2GB used
[17:23] <apinsv> sydney: i got the solution, issue resolved after creating a config file manually
[17:24] <sydney> apinsv: oh,good. You can use the fn+ brightness key on you keyboard also.
[17:24] <apinsv> sydney: that was not working
[17:25] <sydney> apinsv:  :-/
[17:25] <apinsv> sydney: Fn+brightness key shows me the brightness on lcd changing , but actually does nothing
[17:26] <sydney> apinsv: weird!?
[17:26] <apinsv> sydney: this was the solution: sudo touch /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
[17:26] <apinsv> Now we need to edit this file. You can use any editor be it a terminal one or graphical.
[17:26] <apinsv> sudo gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
[17:26] <apinsv> Add the following lines to this file:
[17:26] <apinsv> “ Section
[17:26] <apinsv> "Device"
[17:26] <unopaste> apinsv you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:26] <marduk191> ok mint 17 does this too. it's something with 14.04
[17:26] <sydney> apinsv: Its touch? COol!!
[17:28] <sydney> apinsv: Its touchscreen,right?
[17:28] <apinsv> sydney: Not touch screen, normal one
[17:29] <sydney> apinsv: oh.
[17:29] <varunendra> sydney, 'touch' is just a command, to update the 'modified' time of a file, or create it if it doesn't exist already :)
[17:29] <varunendra> mojtaba, still on the wifi issue?
[17:29] <sydney> varunendra: :P ;)
[17:30] <sydney> I want to try ubuntu gnome on a touchscreen so much.....
[17:31] <apinsv> sydney: touch is a linux command
[17:31] <sydney> apinsv: I see that :P
[17:31] <ranjit_> hi
[17:32] <sydney> ranjit_: Hulo
[17:32] <varunendra> mojtaba, I may disconnect shortly (unless found some interesting task), but for wireless troubleshooting, a report generated by the 'wireless_script' may help a lot. The instructions to download and run it are mentioned here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=13024222
[17:33] <Heavy_4_Ever> Hi !
[17:34] <wrongplace> is there any newer alternative to goldendict? it cannot hide adverts
[17:34] <marduk191> bah, I can't figure this out, it's already taken a week of build time. I just have to switch to something that works until I can figure it out. Thanks guys.
[17:38] <rypervenche> wrongplace: I only know of stardict and goldendict.
[17:39] <apinsv> sydney: scrolling happens the opposite way in ubuntu when compared to windows 8.1
[17:40] <sydney> apinsv: wht?
[17:40] <apinsv> sydney: scrolling pages is in opposite direction to how it happens in windows
[17:41] <RLW980> Hello guys I've burn a .iso of the latest Ubuntu and I've used tools such as: UNetbootin, Startup Disk Creator and via the command line. I've made it bootable as well and when I F12 or set the BIOS to boot the USB first all I get is "Boot error" what does this mean. I mean I've used Google Search Engine
[17:41] <sydney> apinsv: ah,you go sideways? Im confused? I have never used windows in touchscreen.
[17:41] <apinsv> sydney: its not touch screen
[17:42] <apinsv> sydney: up and down>>not sideways
[17:43] <sydney> apinsv: I know up down. What do you mean by<scrolling happens the opposite way in ubuntu when compared to windows 8.1> What way does.1 go?
[17:43] <sydney> 8.1*
[17:43] <RLW980> Hello guys I've burn a .iso of the latest Ubuntu and I've used tools such as: UNetbootin, Startup Disk Creator and via the command line. I've made it bootable as well and when I F12 or set the BIOS to boot the USB first all I get is "Boot error" what does this mean. I mean I've used Google Search Engine
[17:44] <apinsv> sydney: when i move up it goes down in ubuntu
[17:44] <apinsv> in 8.1 it goes up
[17:45] <sydney> !patience| RLW980
[17:45] <sydney> apinsv: ok ;)
[17:45] <OerHeks> RLW980, check your bios, you changed bootorder, check hdd section if you need to change hdd/usb drive too
[17:45] <RLW980> !patience | sydney
[17:45] <varunendra> RLW980, first thing to check is - Is the ISO you downloaded okay? Have you checked its MD5sum to confirm it is not broken itself? Or a much better way to confirm - boot a VM (Virtual Machine) with the ISO if you have VBox or VMware type things installed.
[17:46] <RLW980> sydney: Don't piss me off ok
[17:46] <OerHeks> please do not play with ubottu, no need for that, thanks
[17:46] <shoerain> How do I get the PID of a process that I wrote an upstart script for? Do I have to manually create /var/run/<process>.pid? I was kind of hoping it was auto-generated like /var/log/upstart/<process>.log
[17:46] <RLW980> OerHeks: SHH!!!
[17:46] <RLW980> varunendra: No I don't need VM
[17:46] <RLW980> OerHeks: meaning
[17:51] <rand> hi
[17:51] <dkbug> hi
[17:52] <RLW980> Any help
[17:56] <RLW980> Fine be like this then
[17:59] <RLW980> wankers no help Hello guys I've burn a .iso of the latest Ubuntu and I've used tools such as: UNetbootin, Startup Disk Creator and via the command line. I've made it bootable as well and when I F12 or set the BIOS to boot the USB first all I get is "Boot error" what does this mean. I mean I've used Google Search Engine
[17:59] <hwut> hi.
[18:00] <dannixon> RLW980: You make it so hard for people to want to help you.
[18:00] <sydney> dannixon: Yes,he does. ;)
[18:00] <unclescratchie> what is the command for root in terminal ubuntu 14.4
[18:01] <varunendra> oops, we just tend to piss off such 'precious customers' ;p
[18:01] <rt44> sudo?
[18:01] <hash__> help
[18:01] <pl1x> is ubuntu 10.04.4 working on a 12 years old pc?
[18:01] <OerHeks> unclescratchie, sudo <command>
[18:02] <OerHeks> pl1x, maybe, depends on the specs > duso core, 1 gb ram minimum and a recent videocard
[18:02] <OerHeks> duo*
[18:02] <unclescratchie> oerHeks:  i upgraded  from ubunut 12.4,  there it was "sudo nautilus"  and I dont know what it is for  ubuntu 14.4
[18:03] <OerHeks> unclescratchie, for gui apps, use "gksudo nautilus"
[18:03] <varunendra> unclescratchie, why do you want to run nautilus as root? I hope you understand the risks.
[18:03] <OerHeks> !sudo
[18:03] <pl1x> OerHeks: well, it's a 2.40ghz single core, 512mb ram and a 64mb graphics card
[18:04] <varunendra> OerHeks, unclescratchie 'gksu' is not installed by default on 14.04. You need to install it first with "sudo apt-get install gksu"
[18:04] <OerHeks> pl1x, try Xubuntu or lightweight Lubuntu
[18:04] <unclescratchie> varunendra:  i need to place some fonts and images so they will be system wide:::::::  i already installed gksu
[18:05]  * OerHeks thinks it is odd, no gksudo/gksu standard
[18:05] <varunendra> unclescratchie, it is safer to use cp command with sudo, but if you understand the risks, then doing it nautilus is also okay (and easier for those who don't like commands much).
[18:05] <Guido1> hello, Iḿ doubting about the partition format of a 500 GB dada drive. so  onthere are only documents on it and some short clips. I use the drive on Xubuntu, Windows XP and windows 8.1. Last time it was formated as fat 32, but after conecting it to windoows 8.1 it broke
[18:07] <unclescratchie> gksudo nautilus does not work with 14.4
[18:07] <unclescratchie> has to be something else
[18:08] <varunendra> unclescratchie, gksudo is just a symlink to gksu. Have you also tried 'gksu nautilus' ?
[18:08] <unclescratchie> ill try that   hang on
[18:09] <unclescratchie> not working either
[18:09] <pl1x> OerHeks: thanks! i'll try
[18:10] <varunendra> unclescratchie, is 'gksu' working for anything at all? For example, 'gksu gedit'
[18:10] <herbert_> po
[18:10] <varunendra> unclescratchie, if running that from terminal, do you get any error messages?
[18:11] <herbert_> donde es herberto
[18:11] <unclescratchie> varunendra:  yu[.......nautilus_window_gets_slos; asertion failed:
[18:12] <unclescratchie> slots not slos
[18:12] <herbert_> omar benali
[18:12] <sydney> unclescratchie: are you using unity?
[18:12] <varunendra> unclescratchie, no idea about that error :( Maybe try the commands and avoid the headache
[18:13] <unclescratchie> not sure  I just downloaded the ISO last night and installed  not sure what version
[18:13] <sydney> unclescratchie: are you using regular ubuntu,or lubuntu,or ubuntu gnome,ect???
[18:13] <unclescratchie> sydney: dont know
[18:14] <sydney> unclescratchie: hmm,let me see...
[18:15] <sydney> unclescratchie: does it have a bar to the left,that has some programs in it?
[18:17] <varunendra> sydney, unclescratchie a possible command to determine the current DE - "env | grep XDG.*DESKTOP"
[18:17] <varunendra> just cooked it, there maybe better ways :p
[18:19] <unclescratchie> Linux version 3.13.0-24-generic (buildd@roseapple) (gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) ) #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:08:14 UTC 2014
[18:20] <sydney> varunendra: that gives me nothing. ;P
[18:21] <unclescratchie> varunendra: Linux version 3.13.0-24-generic (buildd@roseapple) (gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) ) #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:08:14 UTC 2014
[18:21] <sydney> unclescratchie: when you restart the computer,what does the splash screen say?
[18:21] <OerHeks> cat /etc/issues
[18:21] <varunendra> sydney, for me it returned "XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity" so I thought it would work for everyone. Using only 'env' should give all the environment variable values.
[18:21] <unclescratchie> sydney:  sorry  did not pay attention
[18:22] <sydney> unclescratchie: maybe give that a try. it should say somthing like 'ubuntu' or 'lubuntu' or 'ubun tu gnome' ect...
[18:22] <sydney> ubuntu gnome*
[18:22] <SchrodingersScat> cat /etc/issue ?
[18:23] <sydney> varunendra: it says unity fo me,but i dont even have unity installed!!
[18:23] <sydney> varunendra: i use ubuntu gnome ;)
[18:24] <Guido1> hello, Iḿ doubting about the partition format of a 500 GB dada drive. so  onthere are only documents on it and some short clips. I use the drive on Xubuntu, Windows XP and windows 8.1. Last time it was formated as fat 32, but after conecting it to windoows 8.1 it broke so what format should i use?
[18:25] <RLW980> Hello guys I've burn a .iso of the latest Ubuntu and I've used tools such as: UNetbootin, Startup Disk Creator and via the command line. I've made it bootable as well and when I F12 or set the BIOS to boot the USB first all I get is "Boot error" what does this mean. I mean I've used Google Search Engine
[18:25] <harm> I have an offline computer, and to install the wifi drivers i need to install the build essential package.. I started to manually load the needed packages and now i have 2 packages which have a looped dependency. Any help?
[18:25] <varunendra> unclescratchie, I've read that gksu has some bug in 14.04, don't know what kind. Maybe just run it with "sudo -H" (sudo -H nautilus)
[18:25] <OerHeks> !offline | harm
[18:26] <harm> Guido1: i recommend making 1 partition per OS.. linux EXT4, windows xp and 8.1 both on seperate NTFS. If needed create 25GB per OS and then have a shared folder partition of the remainder..
[18:26] <dannixon> RLW980: Sounds like your image may be bad or the write to disk failed. DId you do a checksum of it after writing?
[18:26] <varunendra> harm, which packages are you stuck with?
[18:26] <harm> ubottu: Synaptic installed you stupid tin
[18:27] <RLW980> dannixon: yes
[18:27] <Guido1> harm: itś an external drive. just for data.
[18:27] <harm> varunendra: libstdc++6-4.6 and g++-4.6_4.6.4
[18:28] <Guido1> harm: the drive is conected to a dual boot ubuntu / windows 8.1 and in the university windows 7 and somtimes windows xp
[18:28] <dannixon> RLW980: Did you read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1949602
[18:28] <RLW980> Yes
[18:28] <unclescratchie> verunendra:  thanks......I tried viewing the release, kicks back "no modules available"....  everything else just says generic
[18:29] <harm> Guido1: ohh i see, sorry for misreading, but yeah FAT32 is fine.. and you can also format as NTFS (not a problem for ubuntu anymore)
[18:29] <RLW980> dannixon: yes
[18:29] <varunendra> harm, do you have the .deb packages of those components? If yes, you can manually install them with "dpkg -i <package 1> <package 2>"
[18:30] <Willem> how can i use a 14.04 repository in 14.1?
[18:30] <harm> varunendra: the bot might be right, a download script would work perfectly.. but i cant install synaptic.. i could do it manually perhaps..
[18:30] <dannixon> RLW980: Does the image work on other computers, do other USB drives work, does a CD/DVD work, do other OS images work?
[18:30] <Willem> i am missing dependencies in 14.1 universe
[18:31] <Guido1> harm: okee, i was not so sure, because after conecting the drive the first time to windows 8.1 (formated as fat 32) it faild
[18:31] <RLW980> dannixon: yesd
[18:31] <sebastianlutter> I installed owncloud 6 via apt-get, everything is well (even sending mail over smtp), but if I send a share link to a email, and then access the link owncloud tells me the link does not work. In apache2 error.log I get: " client denied by server configuration: /usr/share/owncloud/data/htaccesstest.txt". Since I installed it via apt-get permissions should be ok, or? Any idea?
[18:31] <varunendra> harm, if you have already installed some of the required packages manually, then I think 'force installing' the rest is the only way ahead. Otherwise you could install ALL the packages+dependencies in one go with "sudo dpkg -i *"
[18:31] <harm> Guido1: let me do a quick check, but that sounds super odd. 8.1 should work fine with fat32
[18:31] <Guido1> harm: and i heard that ubuntu has some "defrag"problems with ntfs
[18:31] <OerHeks> Willem, not, unless it is an PPA with packages for 14.10 alfa
[18:31] <dannixon> RLW980: I asked four questions there.
[18:31] <Willem> oh darn
[18:32] <harm> varunendra: i have not installed anything yet, just double clicking the .deb packages and following the dependency messages
[18:32] <Willem> so if the official 14.1 universe repository is missing something i need, and is in 14.04 i can use it
[18:32] <dannixon> RLW980: ANd answering yes to two of them mean you do not have a problem
[18:32] <varunendra> harm, then it's good. We can start from scratch then?
[18:32] <Willem> can==cannot
[18:32] <varunendra> harm, all you need to install (for now) is build-essential, right?
[18:33] <varunendra> unclescratchie, did you try the "sudo -H nautilus" command?
[18:33] <harm> varunendra: yes, and the dpkg trick is somehow working :) gave a small error something but repaired
[18:33] <unclescratchie> got my version....DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[18:33] <unclescratchie> DISTRIB_RELEASE=14.04
[18:33] <unclescratchie> DISTRIB_CODENAME=trusty
[18:33] <unclescratchie> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.04 LTS"
[18:34] <harm> varunendra: thanks, now build essential is asking for new stuff but i can resolve with your solution :)
[18:35] <Guido1> harm: yes, but also odd that a hdd fail just after 2 month
[18:35] <varunendra> harm, next time, you can use "apt-get install --print-uris <package name>" to get the download URIs of the package and all its dependencies. This command *pretends* to install the packages, but actually returns the download URIs instead of trying to download them itself. Then you can use the "sudo dpkg -i *" trick to install them once downloaded and copied to the target computer.
[18:36] <harm> Guido1: you can do a health check on the HDD
[18:37] <Guido1> harm: read errrors, butt it was a clone from a broken disk made by a recovery service
[18:37] <harm> varunendra: i tried, but build-essential isnt in the known apt-get db.. first need to run an update.. and no connection for that
[18:37] <harm> Guido1: that sounds like a possible problem :)
[18:38] <andreipath> hi room
[18:38] <varunendra> harm, yup, that's a pre-requisite for the --print-uris method. It's unfortunate that there is no straightforward way to install build-essential :(
[18:39] <Guido1> harm: so i had to send it in and on thusday i will get it back,. the plan is to coppy everything to another partition. format the new hdd - ntfs or fat? - and put everything back
[18:39] <varunendra> ..on "no-internet" systems of course.
[18:39] <Guido1> harm: itś not a restord drive, but a new one
[18:41] <harm> Guido1: it shouldnt matter too much what you format it in, both FS work on XP/7/8/8.1 and Unix
[18:42] <harm> varunendra: 5.4Kb package.. 9000+ rage
[18:42] <Guido1> harm: okee, thanks. is there an advantage of one? as i only have documents on the drive i don't care about the 4 GB limit
[18:43] <harm> Guido1: FAT32 can do more then 4GB. You might be confusing the old plain FAT or 32bit architecture support max of 4GB in ram memory :)
[18:44] <Guido1> harm: so is there ann advantage for either fat 32 or ntfs or even the new fat?
[18:44] <SupaYoshi> Hi!
[18:44] <SupaYoshi> I got a problem, with default gateway for a interface.
[18:45] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7790371/
[18:45] <Guido1> i also have a windows 95 and linux question. if i share something from linux i can acces it with xp just fine annd the other way raound, 95 and xp works fine too. I can alsoo acces shared folders on 95 with linux, but not the other way round. so i asume that i should set up samba different
[18:46] <SupaYoshi> I want to delete the 1st entry, on line 13, and 20.
[18:46] <SupaYoshi> And change the default gateway for interface tun0 to <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:47] <harm> varunendra: BUILD ESSENTIAL IS INSTALLED!!!! took 8 packages and about 20+ USB stick swaps
[18:48] <varunendra> harm, Congratulations for winning the world-essential-cup ! :D
[18:48] <SupaYoshi> Anyone an idea?
[18:50] <wdbl> I installed trash-cli on my 12.04 server and I can put stuff in the trash - but there is no ~/.local/ directory in my installation...so where is trash stored?
[18:51] <varunendra> SupaYoshi, there is some direct way in NM to do it automatically, but I don't remember it. For the commandline way, you need to delete the current default root first
[18:51] <SupaYoshi> how? :P
[18:51] <binary> is it possible to remaster a ubuntu iso and tell it to not use an apt mirror for installing debs (and use a local repository on the usb key?)
[18:52] <binary> im trying to tell it during install to ignore asking me to give it an apt mirror
[18:52] <varunendra> SupaYoshi, "sudo route del default" .... then "sudo route add default gateway <IP_ADDRESS> tun0"
[18:53] <varunendra> SupaYoshi, correction : "sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> tun0" (gw instead of "gateway")
[18:53] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7790396/
[18:53] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7790398/
[18:54] <baboonhead> SupaYoshi: tea it
[18:55] <varunendra> SupaYoshi, and what is the current "route -n" ?
[18:55] <demon^eye> i need gadget for cpu usage anyone?
[18:55] <wdbl> trash-cli mystery solved: I did all of my experimentation on a shared volume and it created a directory ".Trash-1000" at the root
[18:56] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7790409/
[18:56] <SupaYoshi> that is route-n
[18:57] <jeff__> I have a rackmount server with ubuntu 14 on it.  I have a mac.  Im trying to run a game server, client and server reocgnize eachother, but server says ______ lost connection, and client says "timed out"  any ideas what about my network maybe causing this?
[18:57] <SupaYoshi> varunendra, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7790409/ is the result of route -n
[18:57] <cai> Anyone know a repo for icecat/iceweasel that's kept up to date for ubuntu? All of the ones I've found are several months behind... not safe. Or perhaps another firefox/gekko based browser.
[18:57] <jeff__> disabled firewall, checked that the needed port for the game is open
[18:59] <varunendra> SupaYoshi, I think you also need to add a route to <IP_ADDRESS> via tun0 first
[19:00] <SupaYoshi> varunendra, how would i do that?
[19:00] <SupaYoshi> sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> tun0
[19:00] <SupaYoshi> ??
[19:01] <varunendra> SupaYoshi, "route add net <IP_ADDRESS> tun0" ... then the "gw" command. Be aware that my knowledge about VPN tunnels is zero, just suggesting on the basis of my fundamental knowledge about routing table.
[19:01] <SupaYoshi> mhm.
[19:01] <SupaYoshi> Okay, then Im asking at openvpn first.
[19:01] <varunendra> SupaYoshi, good idea :)
[19:02] <xui> how to enable the composite extension in ubuntu?
[19:05] <blz> Hello, I'm trying to uninstall vsftpd on ubuntu 14.04 server.  I'm getting the following error:  http://hastebin.com/sikikasigo.txt
[19:05] <blz> what gives?
[19:05] <doom3> Hello, i have a Problem installing doom3 (x86) on my 14.04 (x86_64) ubuntu, someone know what i can do? ia32-libs are missing in the repos of 14.04
[19:06] <blz> doom3,  google is usually helpful in these cases:  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23182765/how-to-install-ia32-libs-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[19:06] <xui> where is the xorg.conf in ubuntu 14.04?
[19:06] <Beldar> xui, The channel will probably need the ubuntu release and hardware info to start with, it should be running I would think.
[19:07] <doom3> blz, thanks =D
[19:07] <xui> Beldar, just asking because i cant find xorg.conf anywhere
[19:07] <Beldar> xui, Not there unless you add a driver I believe.
[19:08] <xui> Beldar, i got the nvidia driver (from nvidia)
[19:09] <Beldar> xui, Not really an area I'm up on, you might address this more as the actual issue. Proprietary drivers are not supported here as well.
[19:09] <xui> Beldar, so without the propertary where can i find some xorg.conf.
[19:10] <OerHeks> howto generate an xorg.conf http://askubuntu.com/a/281685
[19:11] <xui> OerHeks, thanks.
[19:12] <Guest6332> hi
[19:15] <SupaYoshi> anyone experience routing traffic over a vpn, and adding a route to make it work? is it safe?
[19:16] <SupaYoshi> "route add net <IP_ADDRESS> tun0" ... then the "gw" command. Be aware that my knowledge about VPN tunnels is zero, just suggesting on the basis of my fundamental knowledge about routing table.
[19:16] <Beldar> xui, Yo have other help now, I was concerned that the info so far would not get you any is all. ;)
[19:16] <Beldar> You*
[19:20] <Guido1> if i want tio acces a shared foolder with xp on linux it works fine, but if i try it from windows 95 i get asked for a pasword. (between xp and 95 woorks fine) What is the reason?
[19:20] <xui> Beldar, ah i did come back to linux after some 7 years most thinks where different these time.
[19:21] <xui> things*
[19:21] <OerHeks> Guido1, update your windows 95 grinn
[19:22] <blz> How should I go about identifying and killing a zombie process?
[19:22] <nightdemon666> i have a question, im using totem video player on ubuntu 14.04, and i noticed that for some reason when the space bar button is pressed, or the left and right arrows, a LARGE image of the rewind, fast forward, or pause/play comes up on the screen. any one else experienced this?
[19:22] <varunendra> SupaYoshi, you just quoted what I said to you. Am I supposed to take notice of it or comment anything? :)
[19:22] <SupaYoshi> eh, yah. I tried the command you said, and that didnt work either x_x
[19:22] <SupaYoshi> so i think its someting with openvpn.
[19:22] <SupaYoshi> I asked there, takes a while before they respond.
[19:23] <varunendra> SupaYoshi, I'd like to see current "route -n"
[19:23] <OerHeks> blz,  this is a good start http://askubuntu.com/questions/111422/how-to-find-zombie-process
[19:23] <Guido1> OerHeks: what is grinn?
[19:23] <OerHeks> Guido1, windows95 / samba is too old, good luck
[19:23] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7790521/
[19:24] <rt44> ibm dos 1.0
[19:24] <Guido1> OerHeks: samba is to old?
[19:24] <blz> OerHeks, the PID of my zombie process changes every time I do ps aux | grep 'Z'
[19:25] <blz> OerHeks, that seems ... unusual
[19:25] <OerHeks> blz, find the main process that spawns zombies
[19:25] <nightdemon666> i have a question, im using totem video player on ubuntu 14.04, and i noticed that for some reason when the space bar button is pressed, or the left and right arrows, a LARGE image of the rewind, fast forward, or pause/play comes up on the screen. any one else experienced this?
[19:25] <OerHeks> blz see step 2 :  Find the zombie's parent:
[19:26] <blz> OerHeks, right, but that's precisely my point.  I can't because the PID seems to change at random
[19:26] <alison412> hi all. i am trying to upgrade using do-release-upgrade. i am over ssh and lost my connection. no worrries, it starts screen when it starts. except now it wont accept my user password. i am logged in as root right now but im not sure what to do without breaking it. help.
[19:28] <ryan_> Hello guys]
[19:28] <varunendra> SupaYoshi, the routing table you posted doesn't show the changes that should exist after running the "route add" commands I suggested
[19:29] <ryan_> I installed Linux on one hdd then put it in my laptop
[19:29] <SupaYoshi> it says, unknown host when i do that.
[19:29] <varunendra> SupaYoshi, even with the "route add net..." command?
[19:29] <nightdemon666> ryan_ and...
[19:29] <Foxhoundz> how do I connect to a WiFi network via command line
[19:29] <Foxhoundz> and have it autoconnect at startup
[19:29] <ryan_> nightdemon666: I can't boot from USB
[19:30] <nightdemon666> how old is the laptop ryan_
[19:30] <ryan_> nightdemon666: year ol
[19:30] <ryan_> d
[19:30] <banister_> hi, what's the best way to setup a VPN on ubuntu?
[19:30] <SupaYoshi> verunendra, im jus gonna ask @#openvpn, cus I dun wanna dd anything stupid,a nd yes, even with that.
[19:30] <SupaYoshi> :/ idk whats going wrong.
[19:30] <nightdemon666> have you looked in the BIOS settings ryan_
[19:30] <ryan_> nightdemon666: yes and nothing, just gives me "boot error"
[19:31] <varunendra> SupaYoshi, another correction : there should be a hyphen (-) before "net" (sudo route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> tun0)
[19:31] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7790544/
[19:31] <nightdemon666> ryan_ by 'nothing' what do you mean, you either have; option to boot from usb, or you must tell the bios to boot from that drive first in the list... in other workds, you may have to have the usb hdd prioity about inter hdd
[19:32] <ryan_> nightdemon666: boot error pops up WHEN BOOTING INTO USB!!
[19:32] <ryan_> nightdemon666: Jezzz
[19:32] <nightdemon666> lol, just making sure i know exactly the error... can you boot it on any other computer?
[19:33] <ryan_> nightdemon666: yes
[19:34] <varunendra> SupaYoshi, hmm.. the "SIOCADDRT.." errors are returned by drivers depending upon network card's capabilities. But can't guess what it means in context of a VPN tunnel. So I'd like to bail out now.. :|
[19:34] <nightdemon666> what linux os are you trying to boot?, and how did you load it? dd? unetbootin?
[19:34] <SupaYoshi> varunendra, np.
[19:34] <SupaYoshi> Ill jus ask them :P
[19:34] <ryan_> nightdemon666:  I plug my latptop hdd into my computer installed the O.S then put the laptop hdd back into the laptop, then try to boot from USb then all I get is "boot error" in other words
[19:36] <nightdemon666> ryan_ the hdd of the laptop is pluggen via usb or internally installed?
[19:36] <nightdemon666> *plugged in
[19:36] <ryan_> nightdemon666: Internally
[19:36] <nightdemon666> then why are you trying to boot usb, just wondering
[19:37] <ryan_> nightdemon666: trying to install Ubuntu onto the HDD
[19:38] <nightdemon666> could you not accomplish that when you installed (what ever linux os you installed) onto the hdd when you connected it to your computer?
[19:39] <ryan_> nightdemon666: Meaning
[19:39] <ryan_> ?
[19:40] <vector_> how do I get a script to run at boot
[19:40] <nightdemon666> meaning, you said you installed linux os onto the internal hdd of the laptop on your computer, then installed the hdd back into the laptop... what linux os did you install onto the laptops hdd?
[19:40] <ryan_> nightdemon666: yes that right
[19:41] <nightdemon666> what so did you installl ryan_
[19:41] <ryan_> nightdemon666: I'll find out now for you
[19:41] <ryan_> Eos
[19:41] <ryan_> nightdemon666: Elementry OF
[19:41] <ryan_> nightdemon666: Elementry OS
[19:41] <nightdemon666> interesting.... couldnt you just do the same thing to install ubuntu or do you want to dual boot?
[19:42] <nightdemon666> well anyway ryan_ you did say that the ubuntu loaded usb thumb drive boots just fine off of the computer just not off the laptop right?
[19:43] <ryan_> nightdemon666: no
[19:43] <ryan_> nightdemon666: it just says boot error from the usb when it's bootable
[19:44] <nightdemon666> but im gonna ask this again, it boots correctly from computer? just not the laptop?
[19:45] <ryan_> nightdemon666: what now the usb right?
[19:45]  * cemotyz09 laughs to himself
[19:45] <ryan_> cemotyz09: why
[19:46] <nightdemon666> yeah, i boot off usb all the time, but i trouble shoot... i try it on more than one computer, and if i get the same error code, then its the way i loaded the usb stick, if it boots from one and not the other, then i know its an issue with the one computer that wont boot it
[19:47] <nightdemon666> some times, if you load the os onto the usb drive (live install) using unetbootin wont do it right, some times you have to load it via dd. some times you have to turn on the boot flag on the usb drive via gparted to get it to work.
[19:47] <rt44> §)
[19:47] <ryan_> nightdemon666: I should know mate It's not the USB it's because I plugged the hdd to the pc and installed via the pc instead of the
[19:47] <ryan_> nightdemon666: plugging it into the laptop it self
[19:49] <nightdemon666> well, you should have been able to install via usb to the laptop without having to take the hdd out of the laptop... to me, it does seem the usb wasnt loaded correctly, or there is a boot priority misconfiguration on the laptop bios
[19:49] <ryan_> nightdemon666: I don't know, could you help?
[19:49] <nightdemon666> unless you have a mac. its a huge pain in the rear to install linux via usb on a mac
[19:50] <nightdemon666> im trying to help you
[19:50] <ryan_> nightdemon666: i hate mac
[19:50] <nightdemon666> how did you load the linux os on the usb stick?
[19:50] <nightdemon666> what program did you use?
[19:50] <ryan_> nightdemon666: i install it on unetbootin
[19:51] <nightdemon666> some times unetbootin wont do it. i suggest you use dd instead
[19:51] <ryan_> nightdemon666: done that as-well
[19:51] <nightdemon666> unebootin has not always been the reliable solution for me
[19:52] <nightdemon666> you checked that there is a boot flag on the partition of the usb stick?
[19:52]  * rt44 has gone mad
[19:52] <ryan_> nightdemon666: I dont know then I need this laptop working before tomorrow
[19:53] <nightdemon666> if you need it expedited, then can you just burn a cd?
[19:53] <ryan_> nightdemon666: cd drive dead
[19:53] <Foxhoundz> for some reason, running dchlient wlan0 makes it hang
[19:54] <Foxhoundz> it doesn't returnning anything
[19:54] <Foxhoundz> return*
[19:54] <nightdemon666> then why dont you install ubuntu directly on to the hdd like you did with Eos?
[19:55] <ryan_> nightdemon666: how will I do that
[19:55] <UltimaKR> Can anyone help me connecting older computers running lubuntu to a single monitor?
[19:55] <nightdemon666> i thought you said you installed Eos onto the laptop drive from a different computer... isnt that what you did to install Eos?
[19:56] <ryan_> nightdemon666: yes but wouldn't the bootloader at like it's got my PC spec when it's not it's my laptops spec
[19:57] <ryan_> nightdemon666: in other world wouldn't the spec be different
[19:58] <ryan_> nightdemon666: in other words wouldn't the spec be different
[19:58] <nightdemon666> its linux, you should be able to install linux os to that drive and swap it out onto the laptop. you can work out what works and what doesnt if you need to, but again its linux. if its a freash install, it wont make any differnt
[19:58] <ryan_> nightdemon666: ok
[19:59] <ryan_> nightdemon666: will it work
[19:59] <pl1x> OerHeks: xubuntu 12.04.4 runs almost perfekt
[20:00] <pl1x> thanks for the help! :)
[20:01] <nightdemon666> it will work as long as you match the cpu archtecture, make sure the os your going to install is either 32 bit or 64 bit appropriately
[20:02] <nightdemon666> both computers take the same kind of hdd right?
[20:02] <nightdemon666> ryan_ i meant to type the messages about with your handle...
[20:03] <ryan_> nightdemon666: Eh? :S
[20:03] <NilsFR13> Hi all of you
[20:03] <NilsFR13> I broke the repository window of Synaptic => http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/714761Capturedu20140713213059.png
[20:04] <TheNH813> HELP! Why cant my kernel find the root partition. It complains about not being able to find /dev/disk/by-uuid/something. Turns out /dev/disk dosent exist! What option do I need to compile my kernel with to enable it?
[20:04] <NilsFR13> any idea to have it back ?, apt-get remove --purge and install already done
[20:04] <nightdemon666> hwat i mean is, find out if your laptop is running 32 bit cpu or 64 bit. then load that os version onto the hdd using your computer. as long as both your computer and laptop support the same kind of hdd, which laptop hdd are smaller than most desktop hdd, then it will work
[20:05] <TheNH813> I think I missed something in menuconfig.
[20:05] <ryan_> nightdemon666: okay what the os
[20:05] <TheNH813> Iv wasted most of today trying different bootloader options.
[20:05] <TheNH813> Im using 12.04LTS and latest kernel 3.4.98
[20:05] <ryan_> Guys help me chose the best O.S, I've got 2GB USB
[20:06] <TheNH813> @Ryan_ Puppy Linux is good for USB drives.
[20:07] <ryan_> TheNH813: Ok can I install PL OS onto my HDD and boot it from my HDD after installtion
[20:08] <TheNH813> ryan_: Yes, but I though you meant to install to a flash drive. For a desktop I reccommend Xubuntu, Zorin 7 or Chakra.
[20:09] <TheNH813> Anyone know what I did to compile my kernel wrong?
[20:09] <ryan_> TheNH813: I don't want Ubuntu products because of the "search spam" they do
[20:09] <TheNH813> ryan_: Ok, understood. Iv tried over a hundred, something will come to my mind.
[20:10] <ryan_> TheNH813: ok THANKS
[20:10] <blz> Hello, I just updated my ubuntu server install to 14.04 LTS.  Now, when I run `/usr/bin/xbmc --standalone &`, I get the following xorg error log.  Can anybody point me in the right direction to solve this?  http://hastebin.com/oficocoteh.coffee
[20:11] <ryan_> TheNH813: I've only got a 2GB usb
[20:11] <ryan_> and Chakra is 1.8GB
[20:11] <TheNH813> blz: X cannot start, try reconfiguring the video drivers.
[20:11] <Guido1> okee, iḿ a bit confused. one xubuntu 14 is set up to share folders with samba. the othe is set up the same after a fresh install, but i can only acces the first with win 95. so where else are settings which i should compare?
[20:11] <blz> TheNH813, how should I go about doing that?
[20:12] <TheNH813> blz: You would need to edit X's config file, but if your not too used to the terminal/text interfaces it might be hard.
[20:12] <ryan_> C'mon guys what is the best O.S for a 2GB USB
[20:13] <blz> TheNH813, terminal is fine... I'm just not used to xorg
[20:13] <TheNH813> +ryan_: Im thinking, I have my review notes and im going throiugh.
[20:13] <ryan_> TheNH813: ok
[20:13] <rt44> ubuntu
[20:13] <nightdemon666> ruan_ i would go with lubuntu
[20:13] <nightdemon666> ryan_
[20:13] <TheNH813> rt44: he dosent want to use a Ubuntu variant.
[20:14] <rt44> suse?
[20:14] <nightdemon666> lubuntu doesnt o the search spam does it?
[20:14] <nightdemon666> you could just go with good ol debian ryan_
[20:14] <nightdemon666> ryan_ check out crunchbang
[20:14] <TheNH813> Yes, more specifically crunch..... haha you said waht I was gonna.
[20:15] <ryan_> rt44: I can't have Ubuntu because of this - https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html
[20:15] <TheNH813> Or another variant, they are prety good.
[20:15] <rt44> ok
[20:15] <rt44> suse
[20:15] <rt44> ?
[20:15] <nightdemon666> i love #!
[20:16] <TheNH813> Me too, I use it on a old PC I turned into a media center.
[20:16] <ryan_> PuppyLinux whats that like
[20:16] <TheNH813> ITs a very light OS that uses JWM and boots real quick.
[20:17] <TheNH813> ryan_: It can run completely in ram so you get almost SSD speeds on any old PC.
[20:17] <ryan_> give me 5 linux Distros
[20:17] <TheNH813> Ok, coming up!
[20:17] <ryan_> TheNH813: thanks
[20:17] <TheNH813> Lol my own notes are confusing me.
[20:17] <ryan_> LOL :p
[20:18] <nightdemon666> FYI, isnt restricting the uploading of data to canonicals servers an option on ubuntu ?????
[20:18] <ryan_> nightdemon666: meaning
[20:19] <nightdemon666> there are ways of  not letting ubuntu send search and other meta data, as is decribed in the link provided. look up fixbuntu...
[20:19] <TheNH813> ryan_: Do you like the E17 window manager?
[20:20] <NilsFR13> wrong repository window in synaptic solved by running sudo apt-get install software-properties-gtk
[20:21] <TheNH813> ryan_: Bohdi is a interesting one to check out if so. http://www.bodhilinux.com/
[20:21] <ryan_> TheNH813: is E17 WM OS or an add-on
[20:21] <TheNH813> ryan_: E17 Is a window manager.
[20:22] <TheNH813> ryan_: screenshot coming.
[20:22] <ryan_> OH ok
[20:22] <ryan_> OH okThanks
[20:23] <TheNH813> ryan_: https://encrypted.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=bohdi%20linux%20screenshots&tbs=imgo:1 Almost looks like OSX.
[20:24] <ryan_> TheNH813: i DON'T like mac
[20:24] <ryan_> TheNH813: so, yeah that's a BIG no
[20:24] <TheNH813> ryan_: Ok, actually this list may help: https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/752221-the-top-7-best-linux-distros-for-2014/
[20:24] <ryan_> TheNH813: ok thanks
[20:25] <ryan_> brb off the install new OS
[20:26] <TheNH813> ryan_: Opensuse is a pretty decent OS, but fitting it on a 2GB is a squeeze.
[20:26] <ryan_> TheNH813: I know right
[20:26] <ryan_> brb though lol
[20:27] <Guido1> okee, iḿ a bit confused. one xubuntu 14 is set up to share folders with samba. the othe is set up the same after a fresh install, but i can only acces the first with win 95. so where else are settings which i should compare?
[20:28] <TheNH813> Forget my kernel problem! Il just not update it from 3.2
[20:29] <TheNH813> Stupid Nvidia drivers not liking over 3.4..... AAAAGH!!
[20:30] <TheNH813> Anyone know if there are patches Nvidia 96 series drivers so they work on 3.15?
[20:32] <TheNH813> Yes, I do have  a legacy GPU in addition to a newer one. Maybe il just buy a new one.
[20:33] <terminal_> Quick question.. when I plug in my android phone, I can browse the pictures, but do not get thumbnails in the filebrowser. Is there a way to enable this?
[20:34] <TheNH813> terminal_: What os, and file browser.
[20:34] <terminal_> O.o.. well.. Ubuntu 14.04
[20:34] <terminal_> using Files
[20:35] <TheNH813> terminal_: Nautilus (default) Thunar of PCManFM?
[20:35] <TheNH813> or other
[20:36] <rww> Files = Nautilus
[20:36] <terminal_> TheNH813: the default for 14.04 Unity. Which just says "Files" when I look at the about dialog.
[20:36] <terminal_> Ah, well then nautilus
[20:36] <thumbdrive> anybody know if it's possible to boot ubuntu from a thumb drive, set the kernel option to load everything in the ram, and then install ubuntu as a full installation on the same thumb drive?
[20:36] <TheNH813> Ok, didnt know the name changed.
[20:37] <TheNH813> thumbdrive: You could multipartition it if its big enough. Only OS I know that does that is Puppy Linux and Slax.
[20:37] <thumbdrive> TheNH813: ah, okay.  thanks
[20:38] <TheNH813> terminal_: I think its in edit>preferences, Unless its not supported. or maybe View>thumbnails. Im on 12.04 and never tried 14.x
[20:39] <terminal_> got it
[20:39] <terminal_> preview > Always
[20:39] <terminal_> thanks
[20:39] <TheNH813> I am nostalgic for the old 10.10 "Super OS" though, it was SOOOOOO awsome and had Realplayer for Linux. (Spamless unlike the windows version) Such memories of my first Linux :).
[20:40] <TheNH813> terminal_: Glad you got it working.
[20:41] <blz> Hello, I just upgraded to 14.04 from 12.04 and my xserver configuration is shot.   I've tried resinstalling/reconfiguring the xserver (`sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xort`) and reinstalling `nvidia-current`.  I'm now getting this rather cryptic output when I try to launch xbmc over ssh:  http://hastebin.com/hevemubasa.vhdl
[20:41] <blz> Can anybody help me diagnose this?
[20:41] <TheNH813> blz: If its get a REALLY new kernel the NV drivers might not be compatable.
[20:41] <TheNH813> Which would really suck, you may just need to reinstall thiem.
[20:42] <blz> TheNH813, i'm running 3.8.0-41-generic
[20:42] <TheNH813> blz: Il check the compatability. What driver version? I just need the base number like 173 or 223 etc.
[20:43] <blz> TheNH813, thanks!  it's 304
[20:43] <blz> TheNH813, but I have nothing against installing a more recent version... I may need someone to point me in the right direction, though =)
[20:43] <OerHeks> blz, update first, current kernel is  3.13.0-30-generic #55
[20:44] <OerHeks>  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:44] <TheNH813> I thought the current kernel was 3.15?
[20:44] <Bashing-om> blz: Humm .. release 14.04 is running kernel 3.13.0-30-generic, what gives tht you are still on " blz> TheNH813, i'm running 3.8.0-41-generic" ??
[20:44] <blz> OerHeks, I did update... several times
[20:44] <OerHeks> TheNH813, maybe on kernel org, not in the repos
[20:45] <OerHeks> (yet)
[20:45] <blz> Bashing-om, good question. I just updated from 12.04 and did an apt-get upgrade
[20:45] <OerHeks> blz, upgrade may be not sufficient, try dist-upgrade
[20:45] <Bashing-om> blz: Try OerHeks's advise, see what results.
[20:46] <blz> OerHeks, nope. nothing
[20:46] <TheNH813> blz: Hm.... are you sing a repo mirror that is somehow not up to date?
[20:47] <TheNH813> Sorry fingers slipped on the keys.
[20:47] <blz> TheNH813, how would I check?
[20:47] <blz> Is this in sources.list?
[20:47] <TheNH813> Yes.
[20:47] <TheNH813> If yo didnt change, it shouldnt be a mirror.
[20:48] <blz> TheNH813, http://hastebin.com/iluwolinub.txt
[20:48] <cloudedfish> so I'm in need of some help
[20:48] <cloudedfish> I've got a ubuntu server installed on an HP proliant
[20:49] <TheNH813> blz: Looks good, unmodified sources,
[20:49] <cloudedfish> and I've never been able to boot into ubuntu
[20:49] <blz> TheNH813, good, so I'm not crazy =)
[20:49] <TheNH813> cloudedfish: What error specifically? Kernel panic or other?
[20:49] <TJ-> blz: Did you have the Precise HardWare Enablement packages installed?
[20:49] <cloudedfish> Once I boot from my C drive, I get the following error "Input Signal Out Of Range"
[20:49] <blz> TJ-,  no, that's what drove me to upgrade to 14.04
[20:49] <TheNH813> cloudedfish: The vidoe res is set to high.
[20:50] <cloudedfish> how do I change that?
[20:50] <TheNH813> I do not know if you are unable to see the screen. Does the live CD work?
[20:50] <blz> TJ-, to be more exact, I got a warning concerning the PHE, and according to the ubuntu documentation, upgrading was a viable fix
[20:50] <TJ-> blz: ahh, OK, you must have the "linux-lts-raring" package then
[20:51] <TheNH813> blz: Are you x86 or x64? I can give a link to latest drivers.
[20:51] <blz> TJ-, hmm it's not showing up when I do aptitude search linux-lts-raring
[20:51] <blz> TheNH813, x64
[20:51] <cloudedfish> TheNH813: the Live CD works fine, it's when I boot without in in my drive that I get this error
[20:51] <Guest87026> I have /etc/init.d script that won't stop
[20:52] <blz> TheNH813, hwo do you mean "a link to the latest drivers" ?
[20:52] <TheNH813> blz: This: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/340.24/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.24.run
[20:52] <Guest87026> can someone help me
[20:52] <TJ-> blz: The kernel version in your log is from that package: see http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux-image-3.8.0-41-generic
[20:53] <TheNH813> Uninstall the cirrent driver (if possible) and run the .run file with "sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.24.run"
[20:53] <Bashing-om> !ask Guest87026
[20:53] <TheNH813> If you have GCC and kernel headers it will compile and load the latest driver after a reboot.
[20:53] <TJ-> blz: If you've done a release-upgrade "lsb_release -r" should show you're using "14.04"
[20:53] <Guest87026> I have /etc/init.d script that won't stop
[20:54] <blz> TJ-, indeed it does, as expected
[20:54] <TheNH813> blz: Download this: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/340.24/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.24.run Uninstall the current driver and run the .run file with "sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.24.run"
[20:54] <Perdouille> Hello !
[20:54] <blz> TheNH813, ok will do
[20:54] <Perdouille> I got a problem, and the french channel seems dead :/
[20:55] <TheNH813> b;z: IT will automatically set it as default and configure X for you.
[20:55] <TheNH813> blz: IT will automatically set it as default and configure X for you.
[20:55] <blz> TheNH813, wonderful =)
[20:56] <Guest87026> I have /etc/init.d script that won't stop. now my computer won't. start. how do I fix it?
[20:56] <Perdouille> My grub "killed himself" last reboot: It was working great before, I didn't tweaked it or something. One of my dual screen was black ,so I rebooted with "sudo reboot" and now the only thing I get is a "_" blinking
[20:56] <TheNH813> blz: Your welcome. You do have to run it from text mode though.
[20:56] <blz> TheNH813, right of course.  Fear not, I'm quite comfortable withthe command line ;)
[20:56] <TJ-> blz: check which kernels are installed "dpkg -l linux-image* | grep ^ii"
[20:56] <TheNH813> blz: Ok, just making sure.
[20:56] <geirha> Perdouille: check if you have any external drives connected, like a usb drive, or maybe a dvd in your dvd-drive. It might be trying to boot one of those instead
[20:57] <blz> TheNH813, oh you're absolutely right to double-check!
[20:57] <Perdouille> I tried geirha, I connected nothing more than the last time, when it was working
[20:57] <Perdouille> When I press shift at boot, sometime I got a "GRUB" before the blinking "_"
[20:57] <blz> TJ-, I'm getting exactly one line of output:  ii  linux-image-3.8.0-41-generic          3.8.0-41.60~precise1                   amd64        Linux kernel image for version 3.8.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
[20:58] <Perdouille> I'm on a livecd right now, how can I know where grub is installed ?
[20:58] <geirha> Perdouille: sounds like grub is installed, but that it fails to boot the linux kernel for some reason
[20:59] <Perdouille> maybe an update or something
[20:59] <TJ-> blz: It looks as if, since "linux-lts-raring" kernel package was installed in Precise, the kernel packages haven't been updated to Trusty's defaults. I'm not sure if that is intentional or a bug
[20:59] <blz> TheNH813, I'm getting an error about an x server already running.  How does one halt the x server?
[20:59] <blz> TJ-, hmm. what should I do?
[20:59] <TheNH813> blz: Reboot witht he option text after quiet splash.
[21:00] <edwardsw> alguien habla español
[21:00] <geirha> Perdouille: when you do manage to get the grub menu up, are you able to choose older kernel versions?
[21:00] <rww> ubottu: es | edwardsw
[21:00] <blz> TheNH813, is there a way to do that from an ssh session?  I don't have physical access to this machine
[21:00] <Perdouille> There isn't any menu
[21:00] <Perdouille> it's blinking before the menu
[21:00] <TheNH813> blz: Like this ...quiet splash text
[21:00] <geirha> Perdouille: Ok, then I don
[21:00] <TheNH813> blz: ssh? Thats not good, if you reboot you will lose ssh.
[21:00] <TheNH813> blz: Try killall xorg.
[21:01] <blz> right. up until now I was just starting a new ssh session every time I had to reboot
[21:01] <blz> that shouldn't be a problem
[21:01] <geirha> Perdouille: Ok, then I don't understand what you mean by "sometime I got a GRUB before the blinking"
[21:01] <blz> TheNH813, or no?
[21:01] <TheNH813> blz: Edit grub.cfg to have text after the rest.
[21:01] <Perdouille> Sorry for my bad english ^^
[21:01] <bprompt> Perdouille:     what are you looking for again?
[21:01] <Perdouille> There is written "GRUB"
[21:01] <Perdouille> and the _ blinking next to it
[21:01] <TJ-> blz: Well, the error(s) you're seeing point to an update that didn't fully complete, so if it were me I'd want to get to the bottom of that and fix it, before trying to manually workaround the immediate errors
[21:02] <TheNH813> blz: Open /boot/grub/grub.cfg, find the kernel options and add text. This will disable X for next boot.
[21:02] <geirha> Perdouille: hm, odd. Well, you could try reinstalling grub. You can do that from the live session
[21:02] <Perdouille> bprompt: My grub "killed himself" last reboot: It was working great before, I didn't tweaked it or something. One of my dual screen was black ,so I rebooted with "sudo reboot" and now the only thing I get is a "_" blinking
[21:02] <TheNH813> blz: or /etc/default/grub and change CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFALUT and append text. Run update grub and reboot. You will have to reverse this to reenable X.
[21:03] <blz> TJ-, ok fair enough. any ideas on how to get to the bottom of it?  I'm a bit overwhelmed
[21:03] <TheNH813> blz: Add text tot he end fo that line/.
[21:03] <geirha> !grub | Perdouille
[21:03] <Perdouille> geirha: I tried with a tool on the wiki, but it isn't working
[21:03] <blz> TheNH813, will do
[21:03] <Perdouille> The problem is that I don't know where is grub
[21:03] <Perdouille> how can I know ?
[21:03] <TJ-> blz: first thing would be to review the release-upgrade log-files. I seen to recall they are usually at "/var/log/release-upgrade" or "/var/log/dist-upgrade"
[21:03] <bprompt> Perdouille:      ok... tried getting in Safe Mode yet?     holding shift-key while booting up
[21:04] <geirha> Perdouille: Hm, I'm starting to suspect hardware issues. Is this a stationary computer? maybe a cable has come slightly loose
[21:04] <Perdouille> Yes, it prompt 'GRUB' then the blinking "_" bprompt
[21:04] <bprompt> hmmm
[21:04] <Perdouille> geirha: It's my own computer, I'm on it with a liveCD right now, and windows (8.1) is working great
[21:05] <bprompt> Perdouille:     you're on livecd right now, right?   do you know where the linux partition is at?    sudo fdisk -l <-- should list it
[21:05] <blz> TJ-, hmm not much of interest in there...
[21:06] <Perdouille> I found with GParted, the Linux partition is at /dev/sdc2
[21:06] <blz> TJ-, although apt.log is complaining about a bunch of broken packages. coudl that be relevant?
[21:06] <TJ-> blz: a long time since I did one and needed to check, but I do recall there was copious logging.
[21:06] <TJ-> blz: Anything related to incorrect packages, versions, missing libraries, would be relevant
[21:06] <Perdouille> and I have a "Bios_Grub" partition at /dev/sda1, but it's maybe a "fake" one (when I tried to reinstall it)
[21:06] <blz> TJ-,  ok let me pastebin that, then =)
[21:06] <TheNH813> blz: DEFINITELY. That means somthing was installed that killed something else.
[21:07] <blz> TJ-, TheNH813:  http://hastebin.com/oquvizurot.xml
[21:08] <blz> If you read from the bottom, there are broken packages everywhere
[21:09] <bprompt> Perdouille:         have you done a chroot grub update yet?
[21:09] <Perdouille> bprompt: How do I do that ?
[21:11] <bprompt> Perdouille:     http://pastie.org/9386615
[21:13] <electricprism> does anyone know of any windows programs that watch a program as it installs so I can extract the registry and files to wine?
[21:13] <Perdouille> bprompt: "mount: can't find /mnt/dev in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[21:13] <Perdouille> I continue ?
[21:13] <bprompt> Perdouille:    meaning you haven't mounted teh linux partition yet
[21:14] <TJ-> blz: is there also a "/var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log" ?
[21:14] <Bashing-om> bprompt: Perdouille :: Dont think we want to do that (MSDOS) as Perdouille is running win* -> GPT partitioning -> UEFI -> EFI boot partition.
[21:14] <blz> TJ-, yes, I was just looking through that
[21:14] <blz> let me pastebin it for you
[21:15] <TJ-> electricprism: Yes, SystemInternals ProcessMonitor - combines the old process, registry, and I/O monitors
[21:15] <blz> TJ-, http://hastebin.com/fewozutote.vhdl
[21:15] <TJ-> electricprism: see http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/sysinternals/bb896645
[21:16] <Perdouille> bprompt: /dev/sdc2 is mounted to /mnt, and /proc is mounted in /mnt/proc
[21:16] <Perdouille> But I can't mount /dev
[21:16] <Perdouille> aaah nevermind, bad command :D
[21:17] <bprompt> Perdouille:     was wondering on the caveat from Bashing-om
[21:17] <Perdouille> I don't use grub to boot windows if that can help
[21:17] <TJ-> blz: this may relate to the graphics driver issue: "INFO no old nvidia driver installed, installing no new"
[21:17] <Perdouille> I select the drive directly in bios
[21:17] <bprompt> Bashing-om:   any drawbacks on a gpt partition?
[21:18] <blz> TJ-, hmm, but shouldn't reinstalling nvidia drivers solve taht?
[21:18] <Perdouille> bprompt: http://pastie.org/9386648
[21:19] <Bashing-om> bprompt: Perdouille ;; I am not the smartest , and do not have UEFI experience, BUT I do know that if the hard disk is GPT, that requires a separate efi boot partition, Installing grub to sda is for the legacy partitioning scheme and does not apply for GPT/UEFI.
[21:19] <bprompt> Perdouille:      hmmm I think you may also have to mound /sys yes... -> sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys
[21:20] <Guido1> why do i need a pasword if i want to acces a folder wooth windows which is shared bu xubuntu?
[21:20] <blz> Guido1, how are you sharing the folder?
[21:21] <Guido1> blz: with samba
[21:21] <Perdouille> Windows is installed in /dev/sdb iirc, and /dev/sda is my SSD full of games, grub seems to be installed in it
[21:21] <Guido1> blz: and as shared source
[21:22] <Perdouille> bprompt: http://pastie.org/9386665
[21:22] <blz> Guido1, maybe you need to enable anonymous access?  It's been a while since I toyed with samba but permissions are a bit tricky, as I recall
[21:22] <bprompt> Perdouille:     right, for your case it'll be /dev/sdc    but I can see what Bashing-om  means... gtp scheme uses a whole partition area for storing bootable code and tables... while MBR doesn't....
[21:22] <Guido1> blz: the strange thing is that i have two laptops with the same samba configuration, but only one needs a pasword
[21:23] <blz> is one unix?
[21:23] <Guido1> blz: so i expect that the setting is somwhere behind the gui
[21:23] <Guido1> blz: i have shared folders on unix
[21:23] <bprompt> Perdouille:    well... my ealier paste used /dev/sda yes, for your case it'd be grub-install /dev/sdc    but.... hold one sec.     I think Bashing-om  is right, it may not work for a gpt partition
[21:23] <blz> Guido1, yeah, /etc/samba/sbm.conf I believe
[21:23] <blz> *smb.conf
[21:24] <TJ-> blz: It should, but installing the proprietary driver requires a kernel module to be compiled and linked against the running/installed kernels (using the DKMS), so be aware you may face issues if the system's packages aren't correct. I suspect you can probably sort out the kernel issue by doing "sudo apt-get install linux-image" to pull in the default Trusty kernel
[21:24] <Perdouille> bprompt: Tried with /dev/sdc, same problem.
[21:24] <Perdouille> And I'm not sure Linux is on a GPT partition, only windows
[21:24] <Perdouille> I don't understand what's the problem :D
[21:24] <Guido1> blz: can i just coppy it from one linux to another?
[21:24] <blz> TJ-,  ok let's give that a shot =)
[21:24] <Bashing-om> Perdouille: If I may suggest, pastbinit the outputs of -> sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda , sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdb . sudo parted -l <- so we know what we are working with.
[21:24] <blz> Guido1, depends
[21:24] <blz> I'm really not sure
[21:25] <Perdouille> I do the gdisk for every discs ?
[21:25] <Perdouille> or only a and b ?
[21:25] <Guido1> blz: i will compare them
[21:25] <Bashing-om> Perdouille: Gdisk for each known disk ( parted -l will list all of them ) .
[21:29] <Perdouille> I must type parted -l in the chroot ?
[21:29] <Perdouille> On the "real" livecd terminal it does nothing Bashing-om :/
[21:29] <TheNH813> blz: Sorry, had to leave for a few minutes. I looked at the logs you posted. Seems like a few broken packages and dead graphics drivers. Installing the ones I  linked will fix part fo the problem, apt-get install -f will fix the others.
[21:30] <blz> TheNH813, ok cool, thanks so much!  I'll get all that going as soon as I'm done pulling in the default Trusty kernel
[21:30] <blz> TJ-, seems you're onto something.   Should I do something else?
[21:31] <blz> TJ-, I just did `sudo apt-fast install linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic` and it seems like there are a few updates now
[21:31] <Bashing-om> Perdouille: I bet you will have to install "gdisk" . Terminal command -> sudo apt-get install gdisk <- .
[21:31] <blz> TJ-, scratch that.   Actually `uname -r` still reports 3.8.0-41 generic
[21:32] <TheNH813> blz: runupdate-grun to set the new kernel as default
[21:32] <TheNH813> *update-grub
[21:32] <blz> TheNH813, thanks!
[21:32] <TheNH813> blz: MAke sure to reboot.
[21:33] <mojtaba> Hi, I have added the command alias update='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' to .bashrc; but when typing update nothing happens. Should I do something else?
[21:33] <TheNH813> mojtaba: Did you restart the terminal?
[21:33] <rww> mojtaba: close and re-open your terminal, or run source ~/.bashrc
[21:34] <mojtaba> TheNH813: rww: thanks
[21:34] <TheNH813> mojtaba: You welcome.
[21:34] <TheNH813> *your
[21:34] <rww> *you're
[21:35] <TheNH813> Haha I guess you are right. Forgot the mark.
[21:37] <TheNH813> I have to go now, bye!
[21:37] <Perdouille> Bashing-om: bprompt : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7790974/
[21:37] <TheNH813> Have a nice day.
[21:38] <Bashing-om> Perdouille: looking at your m/7790974/ .
[21:39] <Monika> I have installed Eclipse 3.8.1 from the Ubuntu repos, which should also install the Java dev tools, and eclipse-jdt and the JDK were also intalled as dependencies, but still I don't have a Java perspective, Java projects are not in the list of new projects etc. How can I add the Java functionality?
[21:50] <Bashing-om> Perdouille: This is above my skill level. Frive sdc is indeed with a linux install, but no EFI boot partition for GPT partitioning. And as well sde: -> Found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format
[21:50] <Bashing-om> in memory.
[21:51] <Perdouille> Do you know where grub is installed Bashing-om ?
[21:52] <Bashing-om> Perdouille: I really do not know how to fix the booting situation. For sdc, I have to assume grub is installed as MBR ( Master Boot Record) to the head of the drive.// What results when you set in UEFI booting to boot from drive sdc ?
[21:53] <Perdouille> I can't :/
[21:53] <Perdouille> In my bios (UEFI ? ), I can boot windows, it's like : "UEFI: Windows boot blablabla"
[21:53] <Perdouille> but for Linux, no "UEFI:***"
[21:54] <Perdouille> Maybe I could just reinstall grub on /dev/sdc?
[21:55] <Bashing-om> Perdouille: I am confused, you have windows 8 installed ? .. Windows 8 is UEFI .. as to how the booting priority is set I can not advise, but there must be a way to set the booting priority order.
[21:55] <Perdouille> I have windows 8 on /dev/sdb, and Linux on /dev/sdc
[21:56] <Perdouille> To start Windows, I used to change the boot order every time (it's quickly done on my system)
[21:56] <Perdouille> so I don't use grub to start Windows
[21:56] <TJ-> Perdouille: I've just looked at your 'parted' pastebin. My reading of it is that /dev/sdb2 is the EFI ESP which the firmware should be reading the EFI boot-managers from
[21:56] <borbit> Delete windows 8. Delete linux. Go outside. ???. Win.
[21:57] <Bashing-om> Perdouille: True, as sdc has no efi boot partition, then in UEFI booting parameters is there a setting for something like "ccsm" to permit booting in a legacy mode ?
[21:57] <TJ-> Perdouille: In order to have Linux added to the system's EFI boot manager menu, you'd need to ensure "grub-efi" is installed to the Linux system, tell grub to install to /dev/sdb2, and possibly manually use "efibootmgr" to add the Ubuntu entry to the firmware boot meny
[21:58] <Perdouille> I don't know, I just select the linux hard drive on bios, and it boot on it
[21:58] <Perdouille> Let's do like windows 8 doesn't exist on my system, how can I reinstall grub ?
[21:59] <TJ-> Perdouille: the "bios_grub" flag on /dev/sda1 could be a "grub-pc" legacy boot partition
[22:00] <Perdouille> So I go on the chroot, I do "sudo grub-install /dev/sda1" ?
[22:00] <TJ-> Perdouille: Do you want to continue with a mixed boot environment (EFI and Legacy) or do you want to make it all EFI?
[22:00] <Perdouille> I don't really care if it's mixed or not, it was working great before ^^
[22:01] <Perdouille> I may reinstall everything during summer, so mixed will do the job until
[22:01] <Perdouille> (sorry for my bad english again ^^)
[22:03] <TJ-> Perdouille: so you've mounted the rootfs and associated file-system into "/mnt/" so you can do a chroot into it?
[22:04] <Perdouille> I mounted the / of my linux installation, proc, dev and sys
[22:04] <Perdouille> (like bprompt told me to do ( http://pastie.org/9386615#4-6 ) )
[22:04] <TJ-> Perdouille: OK, I've got a 'tail' running on your comments since you joined this channel so I'm just double-checking what I'm reading there :)
[22:05] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using currently ubuntu 14.04 LTS on an old laptop; I have installed several apps on my system. I am going to buy a new laptop and I just wonder if there is a way to install all my apps automatically on a new laptop or transfer them?!
[22:06] <TJ-> Perdouille: The first thing is to determine, for sure, which boot method the Linux install is using, legacy (-pc) or UEFI (EFI). If you do "dpkg -l grub* | grep ^ii" you should see a list of the installe grub packages. If you see only "grub-pc" it is a 'legacy BIOS' install, if you see "grub-efi" it is, obviously, UEFI"
[22:06] <bprompt> TJ-:     he lost his grub, at boot it lands at a grub> _ < -- prompt, but his linux partition /dev/sdc2   is GPT, thus I think my solution may not work
[22:07] <Perdouille> I got : grub-common. grub-efi-amd64, grub-efi-amd64-bin, grub-efi,amd64-signed and grub2-common
[22:07] <Perdouille> but it's maybe the "boot repair" thing that did the efi things
[22:08] <TJ-> bprompt: It looks to me as if when Perdouille chooses to start Linux by selecting the "SAMSUNG SSD 830" 'sda', CSM does sda[MBR]->sda1->sdc2
[22:09] <bprompt> TJ-:    that may work...  but I think sda is not bootable, just data in it
[22:09] <TJ-> Perdouille: OK, that would explain why grub fails to boot now, if it was previously using grub-pc - all those files that the sda[MBR]->sda2 code relies upon, has been uninstalled
[22:09] <Perdouille> I select to start linux with the /dev/sdc on my bios (WD20EZRX-00D)
[22:10] <Perdouille> the /dev/sda thing is maybe due to the boot-repair thing again :/
[22:10] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using currently ubuntu 14.04 LTS on an old laptop; I have installed several apps on my system. I am going to buy a new laptop and I just wonder if there is a way to install all my apps automatically on a new laptop or transfer them?!
[22:10] <aaas> can someone tell me what your permissions are for /var/log?  i have zabbix logs in there now, which are read by the zabbix server which is executed by the zabbix user, but somehow my /var/log changed from 755.  I'm wondeirng if having 755 is bad practice
[22:11] <TJ-> bprompt: sda has a GRUB bios_grub partition for the core image since it is a GPT disk, but from what Perdouille has just told us about the installed EFI packages that won't be used.
[22:12] <TJ-> Perdouille: give me a moment to check the grub-install command line you need to ensure a correct EFI installation, that should be sufficient to get it to start
[22:12] <bprompt> TJ-:   hmm   I see.. so a grub-install /dev/sda   will actually suffice?
[22:14] <mojtaba> Is there any way to transfer all the installed applications from one system to a new system?
[22:14] <TJ-> bprompt: No, it won't, that is for a legacy BIOS installation used by "grub-pc", but Perdouille's system now has only the "grub-efi" libraries
[22:15] <Perdouille> can't i just reinstall grub-pc ?
[22:16] <TJ-> Perdouille: can you check whether, in your chroot mount, you have /dev/sdb2 mounted to /boot/efi/ ?
[22:16] <Bashing-om> mojtaba: How about : dpkg --get-selections will dump a list of all packages you have installed, so you can use dpkg --set-selections to reinstall them all later .
[22:16] <Perdouille>  /boot/efi is empty
[22:17] <mojtaba> Bashing-om: Will I have all the configurations as well?
[22:17] <TJ-> Perdouille: There is no "just" now ... Linux is currently configured to use EFI so the best thing is to simply ensure it is installed correctly so you can use it that way. Switching back to the Legacy BIOS install might further complicate the repair operation
[22:17] <TJ-> Perdouille: As I thought it would be. OK. Enter the chroot first with "sudo chroot /mnt/" then you can do "mount /dev/sdb2 /boot/efi/"
[22:18] <Perdouille> I did that, still empty
[22:18] <Perdouille> Are you sure that linux is configured to use EFI, and it's not because of the boot-repair tool ?
[22:18] <TJ-> Perdouille: Are you able to pastebin the output of "cat /proc/mounts" from within the chroot?
[22:19] <Perdouille> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7791113/
[22:19] <TJ-> Perdouille: From what you've shown us so far, Linux is not configured to boot using either, but right now it has the EFI boot package installed so as it is an UEFI system it makes sense to simply ensure that works as intended
[22:20] <Bashing-om> mojtaba: I do not think so .. just the packages, I think.
[22:20] <mjayk> lsblk
[22:20] <TJ-> Perdouille: OK, that pastebin looks good. Now, can you pastebin the output of "ls -altr /boot/efi/" from within the chroot?
[22:21] <Perdouille> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7791118/
[22:22] <TJ-> Perdouille: Great :) ... and now, pastebin the result of "find /boot/efi" so we can see all the files and directories currently installed in the EFI System Partition
[22:23] <Perdouille> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7791123/
[22:23] <Perdouille> I just hope it wont break my windows 8 installation ^^
[22:25] <bulletrulz> i have a older moniter and i the highest res on it is 640x400 ik low but is there anyway i can force my laptop to display that so i can see it on the tv?
[22:25] <TJ-> Perdouille: OK, that looks good. We can see all the Microsoft Windows boot manager files but no Ubuntu files (installed by grub)
[22:27] <Bashing-om> mojtaba: Found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366 <- along the same lines for pkg --get-selections -> etc ect.
[22:27] <TJ-> Perdouille: OK, now let us check if the current live environment is using EFI or not. If not, the tools cannot directly add a menu entry to the motherboard's EFI boot menu
[22:27] <Perdouille> How do I do that ?
[22:28] <TJ-> Perdouille: show me the result of "find /sys/class/firmware"
[22:28] <Perdouille> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7791139/
[22:30] <mojtaba> Bashing-om: thanks
[22:31] <pascal> hi
[22:32] <TJ-> Perdouille: OK, the system is booted in legacy BIOS mode so it can't access the EFI variables of the firmware. That means you'll have to repair in several steps. 1) ensure grub-efi is correctly installed using "grub-install --efi-directory=..." (in a moment or two), 2) install an EFI shell, 3) reboot and use the new EFI shell to boot Linux once 4) From the EFI booted Linux, use "efibootmgr" to permanently add Ubuntu to the system's UEFI boot menu alongside Windows.
[22:33] <Perdouille> I got an efi shell iirc, I can boot it in my UEFI
[22:34] <Guest39477> hello I have a Problem to mount a 4TB big  NTFS disk
[22:34] <TJ-> Perdouille: You do? is a limited shell or fully operational? Many firmware-supplied shells have key commands missing from them, preventing things like altering the boot menu, booting other boot managers, etc.
[22:35] <Perdouille> I don't know if it's limited or fully operationnal
[22:36] <TJ-> Perdouille: To save time I usually install the full unlimited shell by doing "wget -O /boot/efi/shellx64.efi https://svn.code.sf.net/p/edk2/code/trunk/edk2/ShellBinPkg/UefiShell/X64/Shell.efi"
[22:36] <Perdouille> I don't have internet in my chroot :/
[22:36] <Perdouille> Ah
[22:36] <TJ-> Perdouille: That command downloads from the Sourceforge Tianocore project
[22:36] <Perdouille> I can't ping google.fr, but I can ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:37] <Perdouille> I don't remember the command to fix this
[22:38] <TJ-> Perdouille: OK, you didn't bind-mount "/etc/resolv.conf" ... so just do "echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> > /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf" and that *should* allow the chroot to use the system's dnsmasq resolver
[22:38] <TJ-> Perdouille: typo! "echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" > /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf"
[22:39] <Perdouille> It's working
[22:39] <TJ-> Perdouille: :)
[22:39] <Perdouille> I got the EFI shell
[22:39] <Perdouille> What do I do next ?
[22:40] <TJ-> Perdouille: You wrote it directly to "/boot/efi/" as I showed in that command?
[22:40] <Perdouille> yes
[22:40] <Perdouille> I did the wget command
[22:40] <Perdouille> shellx64.efi is now in /boot/efi/
[22:41] <TJ-> Perdouille: That's good - it means if the firmware's shell is limited you can use the full shell from the limited shell simply by typing "/shellx64.efi" at the (limited) shell's command-line
[22:41] <Guido1> Iḿ still strugling with samba. I found out that it can have to do something with lanman. Linux can open shared folders omn windows 95 and 98, but if i want to open a shared folder with 95 iḿ asked to enter a pasword which i didn set.
[22:41] <TJ-> Perdouille: Call it insurance :)
[22:41] <Perdouille> Okay
[22:41] <Perdouille> Now, I must do the grub-install --efi-directory=... part, right ?
[22:41] <TJ-> Perdouille: OK, next step is to correctly install grub as EFI... I need to double-check the command we need here, so give me a couple of minutes
[22:42] <Perdouille> Okay !
[22:42] <Perdouille> (Thanks for the time you are dedicating to help me correct my mistakes :D )
[22:45] <TJ-> Perdouille: I *think* "grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi" might be sufficient for you, but I seem to recall discovering it needs a little extra to work correctly. The main issue here is that grub-install will try to use "efibootmgr" to add Ubuntu to the firmware boot menu but it can't right now, since the system isn't in EFI mode. That might lead to an error we need to workaround to ensure grub's libraries are fully installed. That's what I'm checking on now.
[22:45] <Perdouille> TJ-: It say that /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh  doesn't exist
[22:45] <bulletrulz> hello/
[22:46] <TJ-> Perdouille: Ouch! That suggests it is stuck in a half-way config between legacy BIOS and EFI.
[22:47] <TJ-> Perdouille: I seen to recall I solved that simply by uninstalling/purging all the grub packages and then installing just the EFI packages. Let me check my notes
[22:49] <Guest39477> is there a way to mount a 4TB big NTFS disk under linux?
[22:50] <TJ-> Perdouille: I think our easiest approach is to let the GRUB packages do the install automatically for us, by removing the existing packages and reinstalling
[22:51] <TJ-> Perdouille: Can you do "dpkg -l grub* | grep ^ii | pastebinit" and tell me the URL
[22:51] <Perdouille> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7791210/
[22:51] <Perdouille> (pastebinit is awesome, thanks :D )
[22:52] <SupaYoshi> does anybody know how to tell samba that the default group and file owner should be a a group?
[22:55] <TJ-> Perdouille: I want to see the entire message you saw, to figure out where it is referencing that "i386-pc" file from ... can you do "grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi --verbose 2>&1 | pastebinit"
[22:55] <Perdouille> grub-install --efi-directory=/boot/efi --verbose 2>&1 | pastebinit"
[22:55] <Perdouille> fail, sorry :D
[22:55] <TJ-> ;p
[22:55] <Perdouille> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7791226/
[22:56] <TJ-> Perdouille: OK, I thought so - we need to specify the --target
[22:58] <cdwillis> hello world!
[22:59] <Perdouille> How do I do ?
[23:00] <TJ-> Perdouille: Let's try this: "grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=Ubuntu --recheck --debug 2>&1 | tee /tmp/grub-install-efi.log" and then you can do "pastebinit /tmp/grub-install-efi.log"
[23:00] <edition> i have a problem with ALSA and qjackctl
[23:01] <edition> it says: ""/org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio0": A handler is already registered for /org/freedesktop/ReserveDevice1/Audio0"
[23:01] <Perdouille> seems to work (It said the installation was finished, without any errors)
[23:01] <Perdouille> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7791240/
[23:01] <TJ-> Perdouille: Yay :D
[23:01] <Perdouille> I didn't "LC_ALL=C" before the command, so the last message is in french ^^
[23:02] <edition> Jack worked fine with Qsynth, until Mixxx was installed...
[23:02] <TJ-> Perdouille: You see the ending "Fatal: Couldn't open either sysfs or procfs directories for accessing EFI variables" ... that's because the system is in legacy mode, so everything is good except the firmware boot menu entry.
[23:03] <Perdouille> Ah
[23:03] <TJ-> Perdouille: To be sure, you should now do an "update-grub" to ensure the grub.cfg is correct, too
[23:03] <Perdouille> done
[23:03] <edition> any ideas?
[23:03] <Perdouille> Now ?
[23:04] <Perdouille> ( edition: tried to reboot ?)
[23:04] <edition> yes
[23:04] <edition> three times
[23:04] <Perdouille> (That's the only thing I can say to you, sorry :D )
[23:04] <edition> went to default settings. haven't touched anything.
[23:04] <edition> some application is stealing Audio0
[23:04] <TJ-> Perdouille: After this, you should reboot the system to the EFI shell, and then try manually starting the grub EFI shim by typing "/EFI/Ubuntu/grubx64.efi", or, it might be the slashes need reversing as in "\EFI\Ubuntu\grubx64.efi"
[23:04] <edition> and preventing Jack from using it
[23:05] <TJ-> Perdouille: If that works, it'll boot Ubuntu in EFI mode and we can finish off by adding the boot menu entry for Ubuntu correctly
[23:06] <edition> ok. how to disable xubuntu session selector?
[23:06] <Perdouille> So: I reboot, I go to the EFI shell ( ./shellx86.efi in the motherboard shell), I type /EFI/Ubuntu/grubx64.efi (or \...), and I come back ?
[23:06] <Perdouille> shellx64, sorry
[23:07] <TJ-> Perdouille: Yes... I think that is correct... It is such a long time since I worked that deep in UEFI boot shell I can't remember  the precise commands - I do recall the full shell has great help though, if you type something like "?" and also "<somecommand> ?"
[23:07] <Perdouille> So let's try it, thanks :)
[23:08] <TJ-> Perdouille: Good luck :) I'll go make a drink and await your return
[23:08] <Perdouille> Thanks !
[23:11] <Perd0uille> TJ-: !
[23:11] <Perd0uille> It's working !
[23:11] <Perd0uille> But not the way you told me
[23:12] <Perd0uille> It's weird, but it got fixed with the commands you told me to type on the liveUSB
[23:12] <RedPenguin> hey all
[23:12] <RedPenguin> I am heloping a friend with a Ubuntu 12.04.1 system running an fglrx-legacy and everything is fine, HDMI audio/video, yet on fast motion the video slightly jerks, anything we can do?
[23:12] <Perd0uille> I had a new "Ubuntu" thing I was able to boot on
[23:12] <Perd0uille> and it's working
[23:12] <RedPenguin> Running Radeon 3000/RS780
[23:13] <TJ-> Perd0uille: Fantastic!
[23:14] <Perd0uille> Thanks a lot !
[23:14] <TJ-> Perd0uille: probably the "Ubuntu" menu was installed by the boot-repair
[23:15] <TJ-> Perd0uille: You're welcome. You can re-use that /dev/sda1 (bios_grub) partition now... and it might be a good idea to erase the grub MBR on /dev/sda to prevent the system even attempting a legacy boot that would get stuck
[23:15] <Perd0uille> I'll do it, thanks a lot
[23:16] <Perd0uille> I'll go to sleep now, I'm tired
[23:17] <Perd0uille> Thanks again TJ- for the time you dedicated to help me
[23:17] <Perd0uille> (And sorry for my bad english)
[23:17] <Perd0uille> I was going to reinstall everything :D
[23:18] <TJ-> Perd0uille: Don't apologise, your English was better than my French.. and better than many of my English friends!
[23:19] <xteejx> bzr bd -S    keeps telling me it can't sign using someone elses key...how do I tell it NOT to sign the source package and dsc?
[23:19] <Perd0uille> I have to go, goodbye !
[23:20] <Perd0uille> And thanks everyone who helped me (I can't find your nicknames, too much people in this channel :D )
[23:21] <xteejx> seriously? does no-one use ubuntu anymore? 1-2 years ago you couldn't move for the scrolling of the window with people :(
[23:25] <edition> still have issues with Jack :(
[23:25] <edition> i give up
[23:26] <RedPenguin> Oh looks like we got somewhere, looks like the Refresh Rate may have been set wrong by defaul
[23:32] <edition> Jack is annoying
[23:34] <cemotyz09> h
[23:36] <Ali_M_Ahmed> hello guys, is there any program show me the property software that i am installed into my ubuntu ?
[23:37] <edition> ppa
[23:37] <edition> the keyword here is "non free"
[23:37] <edition> thats usually proprietry software
[23:38] <edition> ie: flash player
[23:38] <Ali_M_Ahmed> ohhh OK :D.  So i do not need any program to do so ?
[23:38] <edition> i suppose
[23:38] <edition> why?
[23:39] <Ali_M_Ahmed> I heard that there is program shows you ALL your proprietry software, Is that correct ?
[23:39] <SchrodingersScat> !info vrms | Ali_M_Ahmed
[23:40] <Ali_M_Ahmed> !info vrms | Ali_M_Ahmed
[23:40] <SchrodingersScat> Ali_M_Ahmed: try: apt-cache show vrms
[23:40] <Ali_M_Ahmed> Ohhhh ok :D
[23:40] <Ali_M_Ahmed> Thanks alll :D
[23:41] <SchrodingersScat> Ali_M_Ahmed: yep, welcome
[23:42] <edition> is there a channel for Jack and/or audio setup?
[23:42] <daftykins> doubt it
[23:48] <edition> Jack is still annoying :/
[23:49] <edition> has anyone had issues with either QJackCtl or Jack itself?
[23:52] <SchrodingersScat> edition: I've never convinced jack to do anything, it decides to do or not do on its own.
[23:52] <edition> :/
[23:52] <edition> really?
[23:53] <SchrodingersScat> edition: feels like it
[23:53] <edition> i just want to play my MIDI keyboard through QSynth.
[23:53] <edition> Jack is why we cant have nice things.
[23:59] <Guest65691> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me after a i made a ubuntu live usb for a friend the usb has become read only. I made the live usb using dd. I have tried using gparted to fix it, but it will not work. Any help is appreciated.


[01:00] <kidx> question with ubuntu studio can i seperate my audio
[01:02] <holstein> seperate your audio? you mean, you have a video? and you want to "strip" the audio? or you have stereo audio file and you want to split right and left? or, you have a multitrack audio file and want to "mix" it?
[01:02] <holstein> kidx: ^
[01:05] <ObrienDave> holstein, too much english at one time ;P
[01:08] <kidx> I wanan split mumble speperate from anything and have them seperate in obs
[01:08] <kidx> seperate source
[01:08] <kidx> thats all i wanan do is have channels
[01:10] <holstein> kidx: you want to split mumble? from the client?
[01:10] <ObrienDave> then you would need a multi-track source. trying to do that from a 2 channel stereo source is next to impossible
[01:10] <holstein> kidx: you'll have to see how mumble sends things, but, you can use something as simple as pavucontrol to route audio like that
[01:11] <holstein> !infor pavucontrol
[01:11] <holstein> !info pavucontrol
[01:12] <holstein> that will get mumble seperated out.. whatever mumble does is what you can do with its audio.. if its in one channel, or 2, then, you ask mumble how you can seperate folks out like that
[03:40] <hexis> hello
[03:41] <hexis> i need some help
[08:06] <ws_> ni hao
[18:19] <ccaesar> algum brazuca aqui? / any brazilians here?
[18:19] <holstein> ccaesar: not as far as i know.. check for a localized channel, or, try #opensourcemusicians
[18:20] <ccaesar> tnx! :))
[18:20] <Unit193> !br
[18:22] <Unit193> Awwwh.
[18:45] <ccaesar> hey there people, how are ya? I'm having problems to install Ubuntu Studio, anybody can help me?
[18:46] <Jmainguy> ccaesar: what issues are you having
[18:46] <Jmainguy> your best bet is to ask, and then stick around until someone answers
[18:47] <ccaesar> well, here it is: i made a boot disk on my pendrive - so I'm running from there right now - and when I try to install, he says that having a problem with GRUB
[18:47] <ccaesar> and then it stops
[18:48] <ccaesar> maybe I need to do another bootable pendrive?
[18:49] <Jmainguy> ccaesar: sounds like it
[18:49] <Jmainguy> dd if=theiso of=pendrive
[18:49] <Jmainguy> replace theiso and pendrive with their actual values
[18:49] <Jmainguy> of=/dev/sdb or something like that prolly
[18:50] <ccaesar> I'm kinda new, so I don't get it HAHAHA sorry
[18:50] <ccaesar> I'm trying to do the installation one more time
[18:50] <Jmainguy> no worries
[18:50] <Jmainguy> sure
[18:50] <Jmainguy> dd is a scary command if your not used to it
[18:50] <Jmainguy> so maybe dont use it afterall
[18:51] <ccaesar> okidoki
[18:51] <Jmainguy> you creating the pendrive on windows or linux
[18:51] <ccaesar> Linux
[18:51] <Jmainguy> k
[18:51] <ccaesar> on ubuntu
[18:51] <Jmainguy> ls /dev/sd*
[18:52] <Jmainguy> see what shows up, then you can use fdisk to check the size of the drives it finds
[18:52] <Jmainguy> what tutorial for creating the pendrive are you using
[18:54] <ccaesar> I used the bootable disk creator on Ubuntu
[18:54] <Jmainguy> ah cool
[18:54] <Jmainguy> thats prolly a good way to do it
[18:54] <ccaesar> here it is: he says that doesn't install grub on /target
[18:54] <Jmainguy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-a-iso-to-a-usb-device
[18:55] <Jmainguy> that answer with 100 upvotes is a good one
[18:55] <Jmainguy> unetbootin, or try doing it via command line
[18:55] <ccaesar> so tell me something: i already format my hd, so i just can start by pendrive... so I'll need another computer to create another bootable pendrive?
[18:57] <Jmainguy> uh
[18:57] <Jmainguy> if you have nothing to boot into, yeah
[18:57] <ccaesar> ok man, thanks a lot!
[18:57] <Jmainguy> if you can get a live disk working with your pendrive
[18:58] <Jmainguy> you can create the iso after booting into the pendrive
[18:58] <Jmainguy> sure, good luck man
[18:58] <ccaesar> if I use another pendrive in another port I can do it, right?
[18:58] <Jmainguy> yeah
[18:58] <ccaesar> so I'll do that!
[18:58] <Jmainguy> have on in there to boot
[18:58] <ccaesar> thanks Jmainguy
[18:58] <Jmainguy> plug other in after boot
[18:59] <Jmainguy> otherwise it might get confused on which one to boot into
[18:59] <ccaesar> yep
[18:59] <ccaesar> well, I'll try and i came back to say if it works
[18:59] <ccaesar> :))
[18:59] <Jmainguy> =), gl
[22:39] <ubuntu-studio> Anyone here uses Ubuntu Studio with Unity?