[00:17] <janat08> is there a button for making it to beta?
[00:19] <tsimonq2> janat08: what do you mean?
[00:19] <janat08> how to get on 16.10 beta
[00:20] <tsimonq2> janat08: what release are you currently running?
[00:20] <janat08> 16.04
[00:21] <tsimonq2> janat08: are you 100% sure you want to upgrade? there might be issues
[00:21] <janat08> is there no turning back?
[00:21] <janat08> hard reset
[00:21] <janat08> or something
[00:22] <tsimonq2> correct, no turning back unless you do a complete reinstall
[00:22] <teward> the only other way would be a complete disk image of the existing system
[00:22] <teward> so if it fubars you restore that entire disk image instead
[00:22] <tsimonq2> ^
[00:23] <teward> but that's a slow/evil/painful process and you'll need external media equal in size to the partition(s) on the disk/hard drive (basically, a 1TB hard drive on the computer needs 1TB external media, at most, for a full image)
[00:23] <teward> (esp. if Ubuntu is the only thing installed on the system)
[00:23] <janat08> right then
[00:23] <janat08> lol, ill just assume that running beta will fix a couple of things
[00:24] <janat08> \o/
[00:24] <janat08> that i may have screwed up, would do i run?
[00:24] <teward> janat08: i'd back up critical data first
[00:24] <janat08> to upgrade
[00:24] <janat08> its backed up
[00:24] <teward> stuff you don't want to lose at all
[00:28] <janat08> so what to do to go beta
[01:30] <janat08> how do i go to beta from 16.04
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[21:25] <flocculant> teward: do these people *ever* come back


[11:16] <usser> kuma_: select copy dvd and put a checkmark where it says only create image
[11:16] <rob65> Ix0s: I installed the x86 version on my core 2 duo laptop no problems
[11:16] <crazlunatic> newbie: I hope you don't mind me asking you so many questoins
[11:16] <Nubbie> vox754: the open source ati and radeon drivers are available i believe though.
[11:16] <dougsko> egyn: wireless and linux are still pretty shaky
[11:16] <Ix0s> rob65, Thats a weird thing though, you tried any other distros joi?
[11:16] <aleksanteri> LjL: ^___^ good job
[11:16] <glick> excuse me does anyone know why my login screen is off centered but when it logs in everything is normal
[11:16] <egyn> dougsko: if i do iwconfig i get "rausb0    RT73 WLAN  ESSID:""  Nickname:""" although my etc/network/interfaces is configured with an essid and nick
[11:16] <kuma_> usser thanks
[11:16] <glick> ?
[11:16] <Nubbie> dougsko: use network manager? i haven't had any problems.
[11:17] <rob65> Ix0s: I've tried debian, and that didn't work
[11:17] <vox754> Nubbie, then what the hell were you telling to crazlunatic ?
[11:17] <rob65> Ix0s: And I've also tried 6.06 and that errored too
[11:17] <egyn> dougsko: ye i've noticed :) it worked on edgy eft though..
[11:17] <adamhman> can anyone help me install VLC?  I'm following the directions, but got this error
[11:17] <adamhman> http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/1527/screenshotadamadamlaptols0.png
[11:17] <usser> kuma_: the tab image allows u to set the directory where image is saved
[11:17] <Ix0s> rob65, Umm sounds like linux doesnt like your hardware
[11:17] <odat> hi everyone
[11:17] <jrib> shakespeareninja: try running it from a terminal
[11:17] <Nubbie> dougsko: and if it's shaky because of ndiswrapper, blame the manufacturer.
[11:17] <odat> has anyone been able to solve nvidia api mismatch problem?
[11:17] <shakespeareninja> i did it said it was fully updated
[11:17] <usser> adamhman: omit the %
[11:17] <khazz> hi
[11:17] <rob65> Ix0s: I've seen posts where other people have run it on my hardware however
[11:18] <egyn> dougsko: when i did a restart i got the output "
[11:18] <egyn> egyn@egyn:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:18] <egyn>  * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                          RTNETLINK answers: No such process
[11:18] <egyn> There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.rausb0.pid with pid 134993416
[11:18] <usser> adamhman: it is obviously a mistype
[11:18] <Nubbie> vox754: fglrx drivers don't ship with ubuntu, but they are available in the repositories, now if you want to help him go ahead.
[11:18] <rob65> So it's a bit annoying!
[11:18] <Ix0s> rob65, Ummm, a little strange, yeah id be annoyed too
[11:18] <glick> anyone else have that problem?
[11:18] <egyn> dougsko: is that serious?
[11:18] <vox754> !tab | crazlunatic
[11:18] <ubotu> crazlunatic: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:18] <adamhman> wow, thanks usser!
[11:18] <glick> i have a 22 inch widescreen monitor
[11:18] <rob65> Have you read the thread?
[11:18] <Ix0s> rob65, Yeah
[11:18] <adamhman> you were helping me a few nights ago install ubuntu!!
[11:18] <crazlunatic> nice thanks
[11:18] <dougsko> egyn: dont worry, none of this stuff is serious :)
[11:18] <rob65> I'm completely stumped
[11:18] <egyn> dougsko: good
[11:18] <khazz> i cant connection to internet..whats the problem? :-s
[11:18] <dougsko> egyn: pastebin your interfaces file for me
[11:18] <shakespeareninja> any other suggstions jrib? i've installed every possible way but the program still won't appear in add/remove apps list or in my regular dropdown apps list
[11:19] <usser> adamhman: i was huh, well now u got a whole lot of fun configuring it =)
[11:19] <Drk_guy> !iso > Drk_Guy
[11:19] <crazlunatic> Nubbie or vox: The solution seems to have lessened the lag. Although I still lag when alt-tabbing or closing tabs in Firefox
[11:19] <rob65> Ix0s: do you happen to know anyone who might be able to help me?
[11:19] <jrib> shakespeareninja: *can* you run it from a terminal?
[11:19] <egyn> dougsko: it is annoying that i can see all wireless routers in this house but cannot connect to mine... argh =)
[11:19] <egyn> !pastebin
[11:19] <crazlunatic> !iso >Drk_Guy
[11:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:19] <crazlunatic> !iso > crazlunatic
[11:19] <NickGarvey> that did it, thanks a lot everyone
[11:19] <odat> has anyone been able to solve nvidia api mismatch problem?
[11:19] <Ix0s> rob65, Nope, not really, maybe an op on this channel
[11:19] <vox754> !ati | crazlunatic
[11:19] <ubotu> crazlunatic: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:19] <vox754> !bot > crazlunatic
[11:19] <crazlunatic> vox: thanks. What about the steps I performed before from Nubbie?
[11:19] <cables> vickdini, has anyone answered your question yet?
[11:19] <shakespeareninja> okay yeah
[11:20] <shakespeareninja> thanx jrib
[11:20] <adamhman> yeah, its really great
[11:20] <shakespeareninja> bye guys
[11:20] <Ix0s> rob65, A guy on your post claims that 6.10 (edgy) seemed to work okay for him, you tried that?
[11:20] <jrib> shakespeareninja: wait
[11:20] <Nubbie> crazlunatic: just double checking, but you aren't using desktop effects or beryl are you?
[11:20] <Kr0ntab> NickGarvey, cool ...
[11:20] <shakespeareninja> i got it to run the installer thru terminal id didn't try it like that be4 jrib
[11:20] <shakespeareninja> it's fine now
[11:20] <shakespeareninja> thanx
[11:20] <rob65> Ix0s: I can only seem to download 6.06.. and that errors also
[11:20] <crazlunatic> nubbie: I just installed Ubuntu and have no idea what you're talking abut
[11:20] <odat> has anyone been able to solve nvidia api mismatch problem?
[11:20] <vox754> crazlunatic, well, you still have lag, so you may not be using the appropriate drivers at all, maybe check the /etc/X11/xorg.conf for the driver
[11:20] <rob65> Ix0s: Is there anywhere I can download 6.10?
[11:20] <Ix0s> rob65, Why cant you download edgy?
[11:20] <jrib> shakespeareninja: ah okay
[11:20] <Ix0s> rob65, Sure
[11:21] <rob65> Ix0s: I can download it, but the mirror provided me with 6.06
[11:21] <Ix0s> rob65, Shout be
[11:21] <Nubbie> crazlunatic: go to system -> preferences -> desktop effects. it isn't enabled is it?
[11:21] <Jiroo> \join #linux
[11:21] <usser> \j #linux
[11:21] <simon_> Hello, i need support. This is my problem. I upgraded to feisty fawn using alternate cd. To do this i had to mount it as a resource. Now every time i wish to upgrade it asks me to insert feisty fawn cd instead of getting new aps, drivers and resources through the net. How do i unmount the cd-rom as my primary resource... I think thats the problem... thanks
[11:21] <usser> \join #linux
[11:21] <usser> hehe
[11:21] <usser> knew it doesnt work
[11:21] <ATL> I'm just ghosting but have you tried getting the drivers from Nvidia
[11:21] <Ix0s> rob65, http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[11:21] <Jiroo> tks
[11:21] <egyn> dougsko: ok, i've pasted it
[11:21] <vox754> Nubbie, see... you have to go easy on the nubs, otherwise they won't know ... they'll just repeat everything you say... you could've saved a lot of time and typing
[11:21] <crazlunatic> Nubbie: It is disabled. My video card is weak, but I don't think it is so weak that it cannot handle desktop effects. But , it is disabled
[11:21] <Och4> nibbie, hey it's och4 again, your still there?
[11:21] <aleksanteri> usser: /, no \
[11:21] <dougsko> egyn: link please?
[11:22] <Kr0ntab> odat, your brief description of the issue is a little vague... try posing a little more detailed question.
[11:22] <ATL> or using the hardware detect built into Ubuntu
[11:22] <rob65> Ix0s: Thanks. that's x68?
[11:22] <aleksanteri> usser: /join #linux
[11:22] <usser> aleksanteri: aah thanks
[11:22] <Tarkus> jrib, ext3
[11:22] <egyn> dougsko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19519/
[11:22] <cables> I installed Ubuntu on a computer, but the install failed halfway through. I need to restore the NT MBR.
[11:22] <egyn> dougsko: I'm new with this pastebin thingy
[11:22] <Ix0s> rob65, Yeah
[11:22] <ATL> It picked up my ATI Radeon card pretty easy
[11:22] <rob65> Ix0s: Thanks for the help, I'll keep you updated on what 6.10 does!
[11:22] <Ix0s> rob65, :)
[11:22] <dougsko> egyn: its cool. the pastebin is gold on irc :)
[11:22] <jrib> Tarkus: you need to use chmod/chown to give yourself permissions on /media/disk
[11:22] <jrib> !permissions > Tarkus (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:22] <Nubbie> vox754: give crazlunatic some credit.
[11:22] <Ix0s> rob65, Lets hope and pray
[11:23] <egyn> dougsko: yes, more uncool to become kicked
[11:23] <egyn> =)
[11:23] <simon_> Hello, i need support. This is my problem. I upgraded to feisty fawn using alternate cd. To do this i had to mount it as a resource. Now every time i wish to upgrade it asks me to insert feisty fawn cd instead of getting new aps, drivers and resources through the net. How do i unmount the cd-rom as my primary resource... I think thats the problem... thanks for any help
[11:23] <FakeOutdoorsman> simon_: comment out any references in /etc/apt/sources.list then use the command "sudo aptitude update"
[11:23] <Och4> im having problems with my reformat/partition, what should my / dir partition be.  ext3?
[11:23] <crazlunatic> credit?
[11:23] <FakeOutdoorsman> simon_: references to the CD that is
[11:23] <vanberge> Ix0s,  thanks for recommendation - but that cinelerra program wont evn start
[11:23] <dougsko> egyn: do you have to use ndiswrapper for the rausb0 driver?
[11:23] <vanberge> Ix0s, "core dumped" every time...
[11:23] <simon_> ok
[11:23] <Ix0s> vanberge, Dont know anyti
[11:23] <Ix0s> h
[11:23] <Nubbie> och4: yes.
[11:24] <Ix0s> vanberge, Dont know anything about it XD
[11:24] <cables> Where can I find info on how to restore the Windows MBR?
[11:24] <vanberge> Ix0s,  no prob... :-)   ty for recommending it
[11:24] <egyn> dougsko: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19522/
[11:24] <jrib> cables: googles for "fixmbr"
[11:24] <Nubbie> och4: 10GB ext3 partition mounted as /, 768MB swap partition, and everything else as an ext3 partition mounted as /home.
[11:24] <whyameye> vanberge: where did you get cinelerra?
[11:24] <egyn> dougsko: no, i'm not using that atm
[11:24] <Och4> nubbie,  it's giving me an error.  it's primary and i don't whats wrong with it
[11:24] <Ix0s> vanberge, You might be better with kino, its avaliable in add/remove
[11:24] <vox754> cables, use the Win XP... boot the recovery console, then "fixmbr"
[11:24] <cables> jrib, i have... i need more of a guide, I'm having trouble following.
[11:24] <Nubbie> och4: so tell us the error.
[11:24] <cables> vox754, do i need to do anything besides that?
[11:24] <FakeOutdoorsman> simon_: make a backup first: sudo /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.20070506
[11:25] <cables> vox754, do I need to know anything about the disk?
[11:25] <Nubbie> cables: no that should do it fine.
[11:25] <vickdini> cables: i was told that when i click on the theme on emerald theme manager it should be applied immediately but i cant do that
[11:25] <simon_> what would references to the cd look like? i cant see any in the source.list
[11:25] <FakeOutdoorsman> whoops....
[11:25] <odat> Kr0ntab,   Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7184, goal this X modulates has the version 1.0-9631
[11:25] <cables> Nubbie, it'll even handle the weird partitioning?
[11:25] <Och4> nubbie, hold on. ill check
[11:25] <cables> vickdini, you need to go to Window Decorator and select Emerald
[11:25] <Nubbie> cables: it will ask you what windows installation to fix, and when you select that, it knows what disk.
[11:25] <FakeOutdoorsman> simon_: typo in that last command: sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.20070506
[11:25] <vanberge> Ix0s, i've got kino - it just doesn't really edit video.  mainly import / organize from a camcorder
[11:25] <cables> Nubbie, ok
[11:25] <dougsko> egyn: what do you mean youre not suing rausb? isnt that the wireless nic youre trying to set up?
[11:25] <whyameye> vanberge: I've had great luck with cinelerra and have produced much video with it on Dapper. Where did you download it from?
[11:25] <Ix0s> vanberge, Video editing is the only time in the world i use windows :P
[11:25] <dougsko> s/suing/using
[11:26] <shooters> simon_: paste bin your sources.list, I'll tell you which lines to remove...
[11:26] <egyn> dougsko: an "iwlist scan" lists my wireless router correctly
[11:26] <shooters> !pastebin > simon_
[11:26] <Ix0s> vanberge, Maybe whyameye can help you buddy :)
[11:26] <vox754> cables, The MBR doesn't care about partitioning, but ... oyu won't be able to boot Ubuntu... if that is your concern... you'll have to reinstall GRUB later
[11:26] <egyn> dougsko: but the iwconfig does not list that essid..
[11:26] <cables> vox754, ok, i'm not worried about that... once I get Windows working I'll set up ubuntu again
[11:26] <Nubbie> cables: what is the problem you're having?
[11:26] <egyn> dougsko: umm.. rausb0 is the wireless i am trying to setup yes
[11:26] <dougsko> egyn: ok, do this, 'sudo iwconfig rausb0 essid <your essid>'
[11:26] <cables> Nubbie, long story... I just broke my friend's comp and need to restore XP
[11:27] <Thomas_Grainger> Hi, I have a 64bit intel core duo e6600 will ubuntu-7.04-dvd-amd64.iso be suitable, please?
[11:27] <crazlunatic> Nubbie: My desktop effects are disabled
[11:27] <usser> cables: heh
[11:27] <dougsko> egyn: then 'iwconfig' to see that the change took place
[11:27] <usser> cables: sad story too
[11:27] <odat> Kr0ntab, did ya get that?
[11:27] <Nubbie> crazlunatic: your radeon card was a 9200 again?
[11:27] <vox754> Thomas_Grainger, NO... use the i386, it is better supported for desktop use
[11:27] <bur[n] er> cables: try #windows ;)  we'll help you get ubuntu :)
[11:27] <egyn> dougsko: same result
[11:27] <simon_> pasted here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19524/
[11:27] <jrib> Thomas_Grainger: yes, but if you don't want headaches getting flash, java plugin, and wine to work, you should stick with the i386 version
[11:27] <cables> bur[n] er, I use Ubuntu, I just need to restore his Windows first.
[11:27] <crazlunatic> Nubbie: yes
[11:27] <shooters> simon_: remove the 1st line  "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070415)] / feisty main restricted"
[11:27] <egyn> dougsko: no change
[11:27] <Nubbie> crazlunatic: thats too old for fglrx to work i believe, i think you're stuck with "ati" driver.
[11:27] <egyn> dougsko: beats me =)
[11:27] <vickdini> cables: how do i get to window decorator
[11:28] <vanberge> whyameye,  i went here
[11:28] <crazlunatic> Nubbie: I see
[11:28] <vanberge> whyameye, http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php
[11:28] <cables> vickdini, right click on the beryl icon
[11:28] <Thomas_Grainger> jrib: I can't get past kernel alive on it
[11:28] <zaen> hello i'm new to linux, I tried installing lg3d, did some chmod command with the bin file, the problem now is that it doesn't run properly so i want to remove it from my computer, its on my desktop with a big red "locked" sign on the folder, how do i remove it from my computer as it says i do not have access to it
[11:28] <Och4> nubbie, pretty much. "it says creation of the file system on sda has fail."  does that mean a scared disc?
[11:28] <crazlunatic> Nubbie: Im readnig the wiki, you are correct.  My video card can do so much more...
[11:28] <Nubbie> och4: no...
[11:28] <dougsko> egyn: try 'sudo ifconfig rausb0 down && sudo ifconfig rausb0 up', then give it the essid again, just like before
[11:28] <crazlunatic> Nubbie: So I guess my PC lagging when closing tabs is normal?
[11:28] <jrib> Thomas_Grainger: what do you mean?  Do you manage to install it?
[11:28] <egyn> dougsko: is there an easy way to remove the RT73-package which I built and then try to reinstall it again?
[11:28] <Nubbie> och4: run me by all the settings again.
[11:29] <whyameye> vanberge: are you on dapper?edgy?feisty?
[11:29] <simon_> is it safe to completely remove? just a little bit careful as i have got lots of problems with sources before...
[11:29] <Ix0s> zaen,  sudo rm -f /path/to/file
[11:29] <Thomas_Grainger> jrib: no this is booting the LiveDVD
[11:29] <vanberge> whyameye, fiesty
[11:29] <Kr0ntab> odat, sounds like your nvidia kernel module may be fubar... so I would recommend uninstalling all nvidia drivers via aptitude with the purge option... reinstalling the restricted modules... and then reinstalling the nvidia drivers.  reboot.
[11:29] <dougsko> egyn: i dont know, i have no idea how you installed the RT73-package. was it in the repos?
[11:29] <Och4> nubbie, specs of the laptop?  or the the partition?
[11:29] <egyn> dougsko: no luck
[11:29] <zaen> thanks i'll try it
[11:29] <Nubbie> crazlunatic: i'm not sure it's normal... is the rest of your computer dated as well?
[11:29] <Thomas_Grainger> jrib: I get to the screen with the boot options and the logo
[11:29] <Ix0s> zaen, So for you  maybe sudo rm -f /home/username/Desktop/folder
[11:29] <jrib> Thomas_Grainger: have you tried the alternate cd?
[11:29] <Nubbie> och4: no of the options you use while partitioning.
[11:29] <vanberge> whyameye, maybe i should have gotten the athlonxp package vs. the i686  :-(
[11:30] <Tarkus> jrib, do you always need to chmod a newly mounted drive before using it?
[11:30] <ikonia> vanberge don't bother with specific arch package
[11:30] <enodev> simno
[11:30] <dougsko> egyn: im not sure then. that is how you set the essid, so if thats not working, youll probly need to do some googling
[11:30] <Thomas_Grainger> jrib: no, I wanted to try it out first
[11:30] <whyameye> vanberge: what package is your feisty distro? Athlon or i686? You want to stick with the same.
[11:30] <jrib> Tarkus: no, if it is ext3, it will retain its permissions
[11:30] <Och4> nubbie,
[11:30] <vanberge> whyameye,  i really don't know.  how can i tell?
[11:30] <jrib> Thomas_Grainger: ok, what happens after you get to the first menu on the live cd?
[11:30] <Tarkus> jrib, it is an ext3 filesystem though.
[11:30] <vox754> Nubbie, crazlunatic it is "normal" if we can all it that way... The driver simply does not drive the hardware that well
[11:30] <whyameye> vanberge: uname -a
[11:30] <shooters> simon_: yes... I did the changes for you if you want, just copy the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19527/ to your sources.list and save, then sudo apt-get update
[11:31] <egyn> dougsko: no, i downloaded the drivers came from ralinks homepage
[11:31] <dawv> yo
[11:31] <usser> vanberge: uname -a
[11:31] <crazlunatic> Nubbie: The computer can run half life 2 at around 60 fps. P4 3.2 ghz, 512 MB ram, its not the best, but its not bad either
[11:31] <zaen> it can not remove "lg3d" because it is a directory... ?? what do i do now?
[11:31] <vanberge> whyameye, usser   i686...
[11:31] <ubuntu_newbie> how do i set the time in ubuntu?
[11:31] <dawv> i have mepis cause feisty freezes alot
[11:31] <Stormx2> I need some advice on getting my music partition mounted. it is ext3. Any suggestions on an fstab line? particularly the "options", "dump" and "pass" columns. Thanks!
[11:31] <jrib> Tarkus: right, so you do not need to do it everytime you mount; you only need to set the permissions once
[11:31] <Och4> nubbie, primary /dir 10 gbs ext3    primary swap 768 mbs      primary /home 149 gbs ext3
[11:31] <egyn> egyn, yes this is what bothers me.. why it doesnt get set.. stupid work =)
[11:31] <dawv> anyone no of any good games for linux?
[11:31] <Nubbie> och4: WHY /DIR?
[11:31] <jrib> Stormx2: defaults 0 2
[11:31] <Nubbie> och4: just ""
[11:31] <bruenig> !info supertux | dawv
[11:31] <Thomas_Grainger> jrib:a press enter selecting the first option, which is the live and gui install option
[11:31] <whyameye> vanberge: and that's what you installed, huh? Well you got cinelerra from the same place I did. I'm running dapper and have never had any problems. :-(
[11:31] <ubotu> dawv: supertux: Classic 2D jump 'n run sidescroller with Tux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 632 kB, installed size 1788 kB
[11:31] <usser> dawv: enemy territory
[11:31] <dawv> ty
[11:31] <bruenig> !info frozen-bubble | dawv
[11:31] <ubotu> dawv: frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.1.0-1 (feisty), package size 150 kB, installed size 712 kB
[11:31] <Ix0s> !games | dawv
[11:31] <ubotu> dawv: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[11:31] <duddu>  salve...qualcuno saprebbe indicarmi un sostituto di dreamweaver per il mio Ubuntino? grazie:)
[11:31] <egyn> dougsko: yes this is what bothers me.. why the essid doesnt get set.. stupid wold =)
[11:32] <Thomas_Grainger> jrib: it then says kernel alive
[11:32] <Stormx2> jrib: Will that allow it to be writable by the current user, if the permissions are okay?
[11:32] <jrib> !it | duddu
[11:32] <ubotu> duddu: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:32] <theBishop> is there a channel for PS3 support?
[11:32] <bruenig> !it | duddu
[11:32] <Och4> just quote what?
[11:32] <Nubbie> och4: not /dir, just "/"
[11:32] <Tarkus> jrib, alright, so do i chmod /dev/sda2? or do i chmod /media/disk?
[11:32] <Thomas_Grainger> jrib: then one line of some sort of memory loading
[11:32] <simon_> thanks a lot. Last question. Have you got a link to a good guide to install beryl?
[11:32] <jrib> Stormx2: yes, it's ext3 so you use chmod/chown like usual
[11:32] <Stormx2> Thanks!
[11:32] <bruenig> Tarkus, the latter
[11:32] <Nubbie> och4: just the forward slash.
[11:32] <dougsko> egyn: if you just compiled and installed them, then youll have to remove the binaries yourself (/usr/local/....). next time, you can use something called 'checkinstall' to make a .deb for you. that way you can remove the app with synaptic
[11:32] <vanberge> whyameye, i'll probably just have to wait...  im sure beryl doesnt help either
[11:32] <whyameye> vanberge: you run cinelerra from the console and what exactly do you see?
[11:32] <jrib> Tarkus: /media/disk
[11:32] <duddu> ty
[11:32] <zaen> I tried removing a directory from my desktop ... I can't seem to do it. how do i get rid of it if it has a big red lock on it?
[11:32] <Thomas_Grainger> jrib: then everything dies: monitor sees no signal
[11:32] <usser> dawv: cube is pretty cool as well as tremoulous
[11:32] <olafski> hello, I'm installing kubuntu and I'm just wondering what the (hd0) means, where grub is installed.. how can I find out exactly which drive that is?
[11:32] <vanberge> whyameye, it just said 'illegal instruction - core dumped'
[11:32] <Ix0s> zaen, Did the command i give you not work?
[11:33] <jrib> Thomas_Grainger: what about the "safe mode" or soemthing similar on the menu?
[11:33] <zaen> nope
[11:33] <vox754> Stormx2, "man mount"   explains everything for each supported file system, scroll to ext3
[11:33] <kipp2> what's the best way to upgrade to feisty?
[11:33] <Och4> nubbie, oh kay next time ill do that, but it's stil "/" and i don't know but im getting the error
[11:33] <Nubbie> och4: i suggest you read up about how the linux filesystem tree works. you could really benefit, and it will help you understand problems a lot better.
[11:33] <zaen> it says c an't remove dirctory
[11:33] <ffm> Do openSSH keys need to be RSA1 or RSA2?
[11:33] <theBishop> kipp2, download the ISO and go for it
[11:33] <jrib> !upgrade > kipp2 (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:33] <erUSUL> !upgrade > kipp2
[11:33] <Thomas_Grainger> jrib: ok ill just go and try that, thanks
[11:33] <bruenig> usser, of course, even linux users are propaganda targets
[11:33] <ffm> Do openSSH keys need to be RSA1 or RSA2?
[11:33] <Stormx2> vox754: okay, cool. Thanks
[11:34] <Nubbie> bruenig: rofl.
[11:34] <Och4> nubbie, thanks
[11:34] <usser> bruenig: i heard linux version was outdated? can u connect to windows servers and all
[11:34] <Nubbie> bruenig: they need them smart linux kids in there too :)
[11:34] <bruenig> usser, oh don't know about that, I know it will work
[11:34] <jrib> zaen: use teh terminal to delete it with sudo
[11:34] <Nubbie> och4: did it work?
[11:34] <bruenig> Nubbie, exactly who do you think makes all those nifty electronics
[11:34] <zaen> yeah i tried it says i can't delete a directory
[11:34] <Ix0s> jrib, I gave him the command did nothing XD
[11:34] <zaen> sudo rm -f /path/to/file
[11:34] <Nubbie> bruenig: oh i know who does lol.
[11:34] <sldkfj> just play like I'm not here; nobody likes to speak to me directly.
[11:34] <usser> bruenig: nice, gonna get myself some propaganda
[11:34] <jrib> zaen: rm -rf
[11:34] <shooters> !beryl > simon_
[11:34] <kipp2> !upgrade > kipp2
[11:34] <kipp2> !upgrade > kipp2
[11:34] <kipp2> !upgrade > kipp2
[11:34] <Nubbie> bruenig: just don't go pirating that game.
[11:34] <jrib> kipp2: read your private messages
[11:34] <zaen> aight lemme try that
[11:34] <Nubbie> um kipp2: you only need to do that once lol.
[11:35] <egyn> dougsko: hmm.. well i'll try and see what i can come up with.. thanks for the help though. maybe i'll just revert to edgy eft where i know it workds
[11:35] <Och4> nubbie, the reading up on file system or did the error go away.  beause i have yet to read up on it and nor did the error go away
[11:35] <BigToe> why is kacpi using 40% of my CPU and making the load high?
[11:35] <Nubbie> och4: the error
[11:35] <crazlunatic> Nubbie: My fierfox lags so bad. Even using the drop-down menu is laggy. Is there really nothing else I can do? Btw, thanks for all the help you given me up to this point
[11:35] <zaen> per mission denied as it scrolled down?
[11:35] <egyn> dougsko: that way i can wait for others to plow the field of bugs/fixes
[11:35] <Polygon89> is there a command or something to find my motherboard model number? i want to update the BIOS
[11:35] <jrib> ubuntu_newbie: right click on the time in your panel > adjust date & time
[11:35] <mwe> what is the most likely hardware failure to cause a computer to randomly freeze, a bad CPU?
[11:35] <Och4> nubbie, the error is still there
[11:35] <Flannel> mwe: try reseating your RAM
[11:35] <BigToe> mwe, I would have thought bad RAM
[11:36] <Nubbie> crazlunatic: if firefox is running slow i doubt it is related to your video drivers. you don't need 3d support to run firefox.
[11:36] <n2diy> Polygon89: try lshw
[11:36] <bruenig> firefox ran slow on ubuntu for me too
[11:36] <crazlunatic> Nubbie: True
[11:36] <mwe> BigToe: yeah maybe.
[11:36] <cables> Nubbie, on some sites, 3d drivers effect rendering speed, i've heard
[11:36] <mrtr0ut> Hello, I'm not sure if this is a wine problem or something ubuntu related, but I'm trying to install command and conquer 3 and when I put the DVD in the drive I get an error stating "Invalid mount option when trying to mount CNC3"
[11:36] <dougsko> egyn: yeah sorry i couldnt help more. its like, i can tell you how to set it up as long long as everything goes smooth, but if there are problems, im just as lost as anyone
[11:36] <BigToe> mwe, is it safe to disable it, and what's the command to do it again?
[11:36] <Polygon89> n2diy, anything in particular to GREP for? i tried that but its like 5 pages of output
[11:36] <mrtr0ut> I'm trying to install it using wine...
[11:37] <mwe> BigToe: ?
[11:37] <BigToe> mwe, oh wait, never mind
[11:37] <n2diy> Polygon89: just scroll up through it.
[11:37] <vox754> Nubbie, crazlunatic I do think is the video driver... when I used "vesa" it was slow, then changed to the correct "via" and it works without lag.
[11:37] <egyn> dougsko: thats life.. i'll celebrate this with going to sleep =)
[11:37] <egyn> dougsko: thankd again
[11:37] <whyameye> vanberge: I was looking at http://www.kiberpipa.org/~gandalf/blog/?p=77 and it looks like your problem is common. You'd have to compile from the source perhaps.
[11:37] <dougsko> cool, later on
[11:37] <zaen> yeah thanks it worked
[11:37] <Nubbie> vox754: changing from vesa to ati should have the same effect.
[11:37] <zaen> beauty]
[11:37] <n2diy> Polygon89: or use lshw | less
[11:37] <Baktaah> In wich folder does the sources list (repos) exist?
[11:37] <crazlunatic> vox754: I went to your link and your driver does not support my video card. Only 9500 and above - I have a 9200.
[11:37] <BigToe> why is kacpi using 40% of my CPU and making the load high? is it safe to disable it, and if so, what's the command?
[11:38] <sldkfj> crazlunatic, go into about:config and find the ...... pipelining.maxrequests
[11:38] <Erthrobic> I HAVE A QUESTION
[11:38] <onlineapps> I'm running Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty. I've got a Creative Soundblaster card and some Labtec microphone (yes, Labtech. I didn't know they made mikes either). Unfortunately, my mike doesn't work with Skype, Audacity, or anything that requires a mike. I think it has to do with the fact that /dev/dsp is owned by root and won't let anyone else read/write. Whenever I try to change the permissions, it always reverts. Same with everything under /dev/
[11:38] <onlineapps> Is that the reason?  If so, how do I fix it (or if not, how do I fix it)?
[11:38] <Ix0s> baker, /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:38] <crazlunatic> sldkfj: ok
[11:38] <ikonia> Erthrobic you have CAPS LOCK ON
[11:38] <Nubbie> vox754: the "ati" driver is the best available for his graphics card, and he's using it and still experiencing slowdowns.
[11:38] <Erthrobic> Sorry.
[11:38] <Baktaah> Ix0s thanks
[11:38] <crazlunatic> sldkfj: It's set to 4
[11:38] <sldkfj> crazlunatic, tweak to about 6
[11:38] <Ix0s> Baktaah, /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:38] <wolfspirit> does anyone know how to turn off nfs for one files system without stopping the others?  trying to unmount it and it says it's in use
[11:38] <Nubbie> !caps | erthrobic
[11:38] <ubotu> erthrobic: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:38] <vox754> crazlunatic, well I just forwarded the link, but I don't have experience with ati.... then you may know better Nubbie, congrats
[11:38] <sldkfj> crazlunatic, might help, no garuantees
[11:38] <crazlunatic> sldkfj, vox754, Nubbie: It's not only firefox. Alt+Tabbing through programs has the same effect
[11:38] <hellhound> hi
[11:39] <crazlunatic> sldkfd: thanks
[11:39] <Erthrobic> I have a question about Linux's specific system I/O.
[11:39] <FakeOutdoorsman> wolfspirit: is your current directory in the item you are trying to unmount?
[11:39] <bruenig> !justask | Erthrobic
[11:39] <ubotu> Erthrobic: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:39] <wolfspirit> FakeOutdoorsman: nope
[11:39] <Polygon89> n2diy, its not detecting the motherboard model, , as on the computer im trying to find out its saying that the motherboard is just called "motherboard" but on this comp its giving me the exact model number. anything else i could try?
[11:39] <vox754> !ask > Erthrobic
[11:39] <sldkfj> crazlunatic, time for more/new memory, or a larger cpu?
[11:40] <crazlunatic> sldkfj: 512 MB RAM, p4 3.2 GhZ
[11:40] <crazlunatic> sldkfj: My PC ran flawlessly on XP
[11:40] <Nubbie> vox754: i do know better, as my graphics card is almost identical to his. the 9500 was the first card to have support for fglrx, and he's using a 9200. it was luck i have a 9550. also recently new drivers called radeon have been made, which support newer cards as well as mine, but still don't provide support >9500.
[11:40] <n2diy> Polygon89: Outside of opening up the case, I don't know.
[11:40] <sldkfj> yeah, that's not bad
[11:40] <Nubbie> vox754: he's stuck with the ati driver.
[11:40] <hellhound> does anybody know how if the gnome window manager has the functionality to arrange windows in tiles?
[11:40] <Erthrobic> If I have a FIFO pipe and write to it while no program is reading, and then a program opens up the file, will that program be able to read what was wrote?
[11:40] <Polygon89> n2diy, oh well, ill find it another way, thankss for the help
[11:40] <Nubbie> got to go guys. good luck everybody with your problems.
[11:40] <hellhound> err if not how :P
[11:40] <Och4> nubbie, what should i do i don
[11:41] <crazlunatic> Nubbie: vox754: After what nubbie said, I'm sure its not a3D problem now because Firefox is just a normal app. Must be some performance issue
[11:41] <n2diy> Polygon89: Nada, GL
[11:41] <chalupah> how do I add an ethernet card, with the driver on a CD?
[11:41] <Nubbie> chalupah: just throw it in.
[11:41] <Och4> nubbie, don't know what to do?  im reading up on it, but it seems like im doing everything right
[11:41] <hellhound> does anybody know if the gnome window manager has the functionality to arrange windows in tiles?
[11:41] <Nubbie> chalupah: the card that is. it should be autodetected.
[11:41] <vox754> crazlunatic, there is also 2D hardware acceleration which is also managed by the driver.. so yeah, you are stuck...
[11:42] <Nubbie> och4: there is something you're missing, i don't know. keep asking though.
[11:42] <chalupah> well, in the install it said 'no device detected'
[11:42] <crazlunatic> vox754: Nubbie: This is crazy. I just enabled desktop effects and it doesn't lag! Except I hate the new alt+tab
[11:42] <Erthrobic> Will someone please answer my Linux question? :(
[11:42] <bruenig> !patience | Erthrobic
[11:42] <ubotu> Erthrobic: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:42] <Erthrobic> I asked about FIFO pipes.
[11:42] <Erthrobic> Okay.
[11:42] <crazlunatic> ok I have a new question
[11:42] <crazlunatic> whats the best partition tool to use
[11:42] <Och4> nubbie, asking you?  or what?  do you want to know what he error says in quotes?
[11:43] <crazlunatic> Gparted?
[11:43] <Erthrobic> Is this the appropriate question for programming questions specific to Linux?
[11:43] <crazlunatic> och4: Nubbie left the room
[11:43] <bruenig> crazlunatic, cfdisk
[11:43] <vox754> Nubbie, what do you know about ati acquisition by VIA, do you think better cards and drivers are going to be developed?
[11:43] <crazlunatic> bruenig: I won't have to burn it on a CD right?
[11:43] <chalupah> so, if it shows up on lspci it should just be working?
[11:43] <bruenig> Erthrobic, your question is appropriate, people just may not know
[11:43] <whyameye> Erthrobic: why don't you just try it with 2 pipes and a bash script?
[11:43] <Polygon89> also one more question, for some reason when i put a dvd in my computer, totem autoplays it (but just starts playing the movie, it does not go to the menu first). so then i go to play > dvd disk and then it says there are no codecs installed to play that format (dvd)... but it was just playing it. The only way i can play dvds is through VLC, which i dont like very much. any suggestions?
[11:43] <kitche> Erthrobic: might want to ask in ##linux
[11:43] <bruenig> !info cfdisk
[11:43] <ubotu> Package cfdisk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:43] <Erthrobic> whyameye: It is easier to ask.
[11:43] <crazlunatic> !cfdisk > crazlunatic
[11:43] <bruenig> does ubuntu have cfdisk?
[11:44] <crazlunatic> !info cfdisk
[11:44] <bruenig> crazlunatic, I just did that
[11:44] <crazlunatic> I'm having difficulty finding the download link
[11:44] <sanityx> Hello all.
[11:44] <Och4> crazlunatic, fugde.  what npw
[11:44] <crazlunatic> bruenig: I have no idea what that comand does
[11:44] <whyameye> Polygon89: do you have the codecs installed for DVDs? Try automatix2.
[11:44] <crazlunatic> och4: npw?
[11:44] <bruenig> !automatix | whyameye Polygon89
[11:44] <ubotu> whyameye Polygon89: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:44] <whyameye> Erthrobic: apparently it wasn't. :-)
[11:44] <Och4> crazlunatic, what now?  im stuck within the reformat, and can't go anywhere
[11:44] <bruenig> whyameye, how about, do you have the codecs installed for DVDs? Try installing the codecs for DVDs
[11:45] <bruenig> that seems more logical to me
[11:45] <crazlunatic> och4: I didn't give you any instructions at all
[11:45] <crazlunatic> bruenig: Would you ahppen to know where I can download it? Google is failing me
[11:45] <LeRrA> Hi, i am using vnc to my ubuntu but i cant change the keybord layout, any help? The pref->keyboard ->layout shows me nothing, i cant add my keyboard.. :( Anybody?
[11:45] <bruenig> crazlunatic, just get gparted
[11:45] <whyameye> bruenig: fine. I just found that using automatix2 on systems saves me a great deal of time and I haven't had any problems. i wasn't aware of these concerns.
[11:45] <Polygon89> whyameye,  i have the dvd codec installed through automatix. I just said that when i put a dvd in my computer, totem starts playing the movie automatically but skips the menu. And then when i try to go to play > dvd, it says it does not have it installed. VLC plays the dvd fine but i dont like its interface.
[11:45] <hellhound> does anybody know if the gnome window manager has the functionality to arrange windows in tiles?
[11:45] <vox754> bruenig, crazlunatic cfdisk is a very small program, I don't think it is even listed, but it must be present use GParted or QT parted
[11:45] <Och4> crazlunatic, you did but you also forget that you ever did.
[11:45] <mrtr0ut> I'm trying to install command and conquer 3 with wine, but my problem is..when I load the CNC3 DVD into the dvd-rom I get an error stating "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount "CNC3""
[11:45] <crazlunatic> Och4: I just installed Ubuntu today. I am unable to help you sorry
[11:45] <cavalierprime> polygon you need to install the gstreamer codec
[11:45] <bruenig> It is in linux-util in the distro I am using
[11:45] <Och4> nubbie, you there thee?
[11:46] <crazlunatic> vox754: bruenig: Do you guys know if its possible to use Gparted without burning it
[11:46] <bruenig> actually util-linux
[11:46] <bruenig> crazlunatic, do you have ubuntu installed?
[11:46] <crazlunatic> bruenig:  Yes xD
[11:46] <coolgeek> how do i install java run time environment for mozilla?
[11:46] <Och4> crazlunatic, shit happens and then you die.  thanks anyways man
[11:46] <bruenig> crazlunatic, sudo apt-get install gparted
[11:46] <vox754> !info gparted
[11:46] <ubotu> gparted: GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.5-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 316 kB, installed size 1588 kB
[11:46] <bruenig> coolgeek, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[11:46] <whyameye> Polygon89: so you are saying that totem itself has in the past played the DVD?
[11:46] <crazlunatic> och4: I just told you nubbie left. I have no idea what the frickin terminal is... actually i do =P but thats all i know about it
[11:46] <TheHunted> Raytray: hey!
[11:46] <Cnl_Delta> hi which country's universal sources get updated first. seems india lags behind the uk repos
[11:46] <coolgeek> bruenig: thanks
[11:46] <oscar> join #ubuntu-es
[11:46] <crazlunatic> bruenig: thakns
[11:47] <DanglyBits> is there an online listing of packages in feisty?
[11:47] <Polygon89> whyameye, it plays dvds but skips the menu, so techinally it can play dvds but if i select it manually it wont play it.
[11:47] <Erthrobic> Peace, Ubuntu Niggers.
[11:47] <hellhound> hahahha
[11:47] <crazlunatic> bruenig: That is quite handy. Ubuntu is pretty cool. Too bad I lost my Windows partition when installing it
[11:47] <Raytray> Hey TheHunted.
[11:47] <bruenig> Cnl_Delta, I would imagine archive.ubuntu.com gets updated first
[11:47] <Ix0s> He earnt himself a ban ouchies :(
[11:47] <vox754> crazlunatic, Nubbie left?!  when?   man it is crowded today
[11:47] <bruenig> crazlunatic, too bad?
[11:47] <LeRrA> Hi, i am using vnc to my ubuntu but i cant change the keybord layout, any help? The pref->keyboard ->layout shows me nothing, i cant add my keyboard.. :( Anybody?
[11:47] <Och4> crazlunatic, hahahah. thats funny.  well, good luck with that terminal thing.  hopefully it brings you happiness and joy
[11:47] <kitche> Cnl_Delta: theyg et updated at the sme tiem just might take longer to have the updates pushed ot the repos depending where they are at
[11:47] <whyameye> Polygon89: I don't know how to help you with totem. Have you tried Xine, though?
[11:48] <crazlunatic> Ya he told me he left a while ago.
[11:48] <Cnl_Delta> well in indian ones wine is at 0.9.33 ..
[11:48] <crazlunatic> bruenig: Too bad yes because I had 3000 songs on it .lol
[11:48] <kitche> Cnl_Delta: but yes the main repo archive.ubuntu.com gets updated first
[11:48] <Polygon89> whyameye, im going to go delete the totem prefs folder, maybe that will do it
[11:48] <bruenig> crazlunatic, bittorrent will take 3 days to get that backm
[11:48] <Cnl_Delta> so which repos get pushed earliest
[11:48] <bruenig> -m
[11:48] <usser> Cnl_Delta: wine is 0.9.36 already
[11:48] <Cnl_Delta> hmm so y have the country prefixes
[11:48] <gan|y|med> hi
[11:48] <Och4> crazluntic, sounds on what?
[11:48] <gan|y|med>  how can convince my opera browser to open rfd files (rss feeds) akregator?
[11:48] <hellhound> bleh no one helps me :(
[11:49] <DanglyBits> is there a database online of packages in feisty?
[11:49] <kitche> Cnl_Delta: well versions well be the same for your versoin of ubuntu your using, sicne they don't update version packages once stable only bugfixes
[11:49] <Och4> crazluntic, songs on what?
[11:49] <jrib> DanglyBits: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:49] <crazlunatic> Och4: My windows partition
[11:49] <crazlunatic> bruenig: Yes. I don't know why you brought up bit torrent though xD
[11:49] <bruenig> gan|y|med, although your question was highly disjointed to the point where it bordered on nonsense, if you want a particular filetype to be opened with a particular application, simply right click on the file go to properties and chnage the open with
[11:49] <Och4> crazluntic, did you lose all of it???  or what?
[11:50] <Cnl_Delta> hmm
[11:50] <kitche> Cnl_Delta: it's different mirrors and saves on bandwidth :) for the main repo
[11:50] <crazlunatic> Och4: Yes. I used guided partitioninig, thinking it would guide me. Instead it earsed my entire hard drive
[11:50] <vox754> crazlunatic, bruenig oh that is hilarious!   You need to to beware of the auto partition features of the standard Live CD... I think the developers can really stress this because a lot of newbies don't realize that formatting will erase they Win data...
[11:50] <crazlunatic> Och4: Luckily i backed up my documents on an external
[11:50] <usser> crazlunatic: nice =)
[11:51] <crazlunatic> vox754: I might sound like a computer noob but I'm not lol. I know what format and partitoning is. In fact I run a weblog at www.vistarewired.com . But no hate comments please. I don't like Vista, I just write about it so I can make $$ lol
[11:51] <Och4> crazluntic, same thing happen to my friend, but i don't know if he backed everything up. but most of it he did.
[11:51] <BigToe> guys, what's the command to install a .deb from terminal again?
[11:51] <chalupah> i'm trying to get my ethernet card working, how do I install the driver from a CD?
[11:51] <bruenig> BigToe, sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[11:51] <BigToe> thanks
[11:51] <Cnl_Delta> o boy us repos get their updates eariler than uk which gets it earlier than in
[11:51] <Och4> crazlunatic, did you lose your windows partitiontoo?
[11:51] <crazlunatic> Och4: The manual partitioning step was even worse. You could only create one and I wanted to create 2 for swap file
[11:51] <crazlunatic> Och4: I lost all my windows partitions.  It cannot detect the hard drive ubuntu is running on
[11:52] <NoReGreT> guys, how to run talk/talkd ?
[11:52] <cavalierprime> when I try to turn on desktop effects, I get an error "Composite extension not available"  any ideas?
[11:52] <vox754> crazlunatic, I didn't  say you were a nub, but as was talking broadly... since it happened to another guy around here... hilarious...
[11:52] <crazlunatic> usser: Lol good one. But i lost a ton of crap, I spent a few hours reinstalling everything last night
[11:52] <Och4> crazluntic, are you mad?  or is it oh kay??  you got internet.  thats only a plus.
[11:52] <Cnl_Delta> beware Gparted, it messed up my partition table from the live cd
[11:52] <gaten> why does nvidia-glx require linux-image-*-386? i want to use generic, as i have a amd x2 processor, but im afraid if i remove 386 my nvidia driver won't work again
[11:52] <crazlunatic> vox754: Sorry lol.
[11:52] <bruenig> gan|y|med, that preface was only intended to cover me if I answered incorrectly, your first question as very bizarre, like akgregator just shot out at the end and I didn't really understand what that meant and so I wasn't 100% certain what you were saying
[11:53] <crazlunatic> Does anyone know why I cannot view the hard drive that Ubuntu is running on. But I can view my slave drive
[11:53] <bruenig> was*
[11:53] <crazlunatic> please disregard what I just asked
[11:53] <vox754> crazlunatic, are you sure you are not nub?!
[11:53] <crazlunatic> vox754: Now I am not sure
[11:53] <Och4> crazlunatic, like the system file???  like /home /root /media dirs?
[11:53] <kipp2> how can I find out what version I am running?
[11:53] <bruenig> kipp2, lsb_release -a
[11:53] <LjL> !version > kipp2    (kipp2, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:54] <chalupah> how can I install an ethernet card driver which is on a cd-rom?
[11:54] <crazlunatic> vox754: Looks like I"m going to have to burn Gparted to a disk to mess with partitions
[11:54] <ubuntu_newbie> what is the standard binding to see the cube in beryl? i can't fins it
[11:54] <moko> c
[11:54] <LjL> !beryl > ubuntu_newbie    (ubuntu_newbie, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:54] <bruenig> crazlunatic, if you have the ubuntu live cd, it has gparted on it
[11:54] <gan|y|med> bruenig: so then you might also accept the possibility that i, by mere accident and chance, forgot the 'with' in the haste of writing. and such a long 'answer' of yours is surely not recognised, as i actually witness sth strange going on in my opera
[11:54] <crazlunatic> bruenig: I downloaded the Ubuntu CD from the website this morning
[11:54] <kitche> ubuntu_newbie: alt+<--- might need ctrl also not sure
[11:54] <crazlunatic> bruenig: Is that the correct CD?
[11:54] <vox754> crazlunatic, use the Ubuntu Live CD, it is there... also I suggest partitioning with QTParted in Knoppixor you could try the GPArted live CD... many options!
[11:55] <ubuntu_newbie> thx
[11:55] <bruenig> !english | gan|y|med
[11:55] <ubotu> gan|y|med: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[11:55] <crazlunatic> vox754: I will use your suggestion. I don't want my computer to f up again
[11:55] <gan|y|med> bruenig: are you kdding me? is this fun for you?
[11:55] <gan|y|med> i
[11:56] <NoReGreT> guys, how to run talk/talkd ? it's giving me Error on read from talk daemon: Connection refused. Press any key...
[11:56] <crazlunatic> !spanishi
[11:56] <crazlunatic> !spanish
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spanishi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:56] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:56] <gonnaeatthat> hey guys can i run emerald theme manager without beryl?
[11:56] <LjL> !beryl > gonnaeatthat    (gonnaeatthat, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:56] <bruenig> !es | crazlunatic
[11:56] <ubotu> crazlunatic: please see above
[11:56] <usser> gonnaeatthat: i dont think so
[11:56] <crazlunatic> its ok I'll stick with English
[11:56] <crazlunatic> I don't even speak spanish anyway
[11:57] <grave> I have a question
[11:57] <usser> shoot
[11:57] <bruenig> grave, really?
[11:57] <adamhman> does anyone know how to change permissions to write to a folder?  (an external hard drive)
[11:57] <usser> adamhman: chown
[11:57] <bruenig> adamhman, what is the filesystem of this external harddrive?
[11:57] <reb0rn> one where stupid question: where is xchat install dir? :)
[11:57] <grave> for Ubuntu v 7.04 debconf . Configuring mdadm , md arrays needed for the root file system:
[11:57] <evaristo_____> hi guys
[11:58] <cavalierprime> i get an error, "Composite extension not available" when I try to turn on Desktop Effects, anyone got any ideas?
[11:58] <gan|y|med> so any opera users here, that might give me a clue why opera does not open rfd with akregator, though rfd files have been added as mimtype?
[11:58] <LjL> reb0rn: there's not ONE directory. programs in Linux are generally scattered in various directories - things go by "category", not by the program they belong to
[11:58] <bruenig> reb0rn, if you installed it via the repositories, do "dpkg -L xchat" to see all the files it includes and where it put them
[11:58] <LjL> reb0rn: type "dpkg -L xchat"
[11:58] <yharrow> I need to get a haircut
[11:58] <Ix0s> cavalierprime, What card you running?
[11:58] <reb0rn> i need plugin dir
[11:58] <crazlunatic> vox754: My packages, I can store them anywhere right? And delete them after I install them, or am i mistaken
[11:58] <cavalierprime> ati radeon x1600xt pro
[11:58] <crazlunatic> vox754: I am confusing ubuntu with mac now lol
[11:58] <LjL> reb0rn: type dpkg -L xchat, it'll list all the files and directories relevant to xchat.
[11:58] <adamhman> usser, chown?
[11:58] <evaristo_____> Why, the ubuntu's 4.07 live cd ..is asking by user and password ??
[11:59] <bruenig> reb0rn, dpkg -L xchat | grep plugin maybe
[11:59] <Ix0s> !beryl | cavalierprime
[11:59] <ubotu> cavalierprime: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:59] <LjL> reb0rn: although, it's quite possible that plugins can be put somewhere in your home directory - for getting user specific plugins. not sure. check the manual.
[11:59] <usser> adamhman: yea usually, but bruening is right what is the filesystem
[11:59] <Ix0s> cavalierprime, Join the channel in the message from ubotu
[11:59] <cavalierprime> thx
[11:59] <Ix0s> cavalierprime, And speak to crdlb
[12:00] <vox754> crazlunatic, never used the current macs, but... .deb are packages which install things, you can delete them after installing them
[12:00] <evaristo_____> anybody knows Why, the ubuntu's 4.07 live cd ..is asking by user and password ??
[12:00] <calvin_> Hi, I am seeking help with setting up my boot menu list, does anyone know how to set Feisty up correctly in here if you have a /boot partition? (I installed Sabayon after Ubuntu and wanna be able to access both)
[12:00] <bruenig> evaristo_____, it is 7.04 and it shouldn't be asking you that
[12:00] <grave> What are MD arrayas
[12:00] <crazlunatic> vox754: Thanks. Just got qtparted v0.4.5
[12:00] <adamhman> What do you mean chown or bruing?  I just want to move some files to the external hard drive from the CD drive.  Screenshot:  http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4705/screenshotwx2.png


[13:33] <davidcalle> dholbach: your patch works nicely :)
[13:33] <dholbach> davidcalle: shall I propose it or do you just want to push it to the branch?
[13:33] <davidcalle> we have both tested it, let's push it
[13:34] <dholbach> great :)
[13:34] <dholbach> hum.. are you pushing it now or shall I?
[13:36] <davidcalle> dholbach: pushed, was deleting my branch
[13:36]  * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[13:37] <davidcalle> http://pad.ubuntu.com/I52eWD9zXl
[13:37] <dholbach> so now we need to see if we can fix the migrations, right?
[13:39] <davidcalle> dholbach, do we have migrations to fix?
[13:39] <dholbach> davidcalle: on staging
[13:39] <dholbach> or is all the stuff working on there now?
[13:42] <davidcalle> dholbach: staging has moved on to other testing (trunk). It appears that my plan of having staging to test "anything" won't work. The builds created there are used for prod...
[13:43] <davidcalle> dholbach: I discovered it this morning with IS
[13:43] <dholbach> mh
[13:43] <davidcalle> dholbach: I've asked for help to create a local way to test the stack, in a rt
[13:43] <dholbach> ok
[13:43] <dholbach> that sounds like the reasonable way forward then
[13:43] <dholbach> and we can default to landing stuff in trunk again
[13:44] <dholbach> right?
[13:44] <davidcalle> yep
[13:44] <dholbach> in that case we can also default to having code reviews again?
[13:44] <dholbach> at least for stuff I propose I'd appreciate it
[13:45] <dholbach> davidcalle: where are you having the conversation with IS?
[13:46] <dholbach> I'm interested in that as well
[13:47] <davidcalle> dholbach: https://portal.admin.canonical.com/87084
[13:51] <dholbach> great, thanks
[13:56] <dholbach> ah I thought that was about asking for instructions?
[14:00] <mhall119> davidcalle: can you update that RT informing them of the new RT#87214 requesting an update to rev 156?
[14:01] <davidcalle> mhall119: ok
[15:21] <dholbach> mhall119, davidcalle: are we in the process of deploying something to prod?
[15:22] <dholbach> I can't log in right now
[15:23] <mhall119> dholbach: yes, and it broke
[15:23] <dholbach> ok
[15:39] <dholbach> davidcalle: I'm sure you have more important stuff to doright now, but here's https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/1525202/+merge/280318
[15:47] <mhall119> dholbach: davidcalle: FYI, there was some problems with juju and/or prodstack, the devportal has been reverted to r145 until that's resolved, then they will try to update it to 156 again
[15:48] <dholbach> crossing fingers then
[15:48] <dholbach> mhall119: once all of this is landed, can we focus on the django / djangocms update or is there other stuff we still need to land after that?
[15:50] <mhall119> dholbach: we're still waiting on fixed JS scope API docs I believe, which I'd like to publish as soon as we get them
[15:50] <mhall119> everything else I think can wait on the django/cms upgrade
[15:50] <dholbach> ok... I'd really like to get this done
[15:51] <mhall119> I know
[15:51]  * mhall119 hugs dholbach
[15:51]  * dholbach hugs mhall119 back :)
[15:52] <dholbach> I just know it won't happen if we don't all look at it together - let's just make sure we don't end up in a situation like this again - probably getting a local prod or staging-like environment for testing will make this all quicker ... and regularly checking if our components are getting a bit old :)
[15:53] <dholbach> in any case: I didn't mean to criticise anyone
[15:57]  * davidcalle hugs dholbach
[16:03]  * dholbach hugs davidcalle back
[16:13] <davidcalle> dholbach: merged
[16:14] <dholbach> davidcalle: https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/update-pip-components/+merge/280323
[16:16] <davidcalle> dholbach: I need to get my kids, but I'll have a look after
[16:17] <dholbach> davidcalle: no worries
[16:17] <dholbach> it's not that important :)
[16:19]  * davidcalle drives home, ttyl o/


[06:25] <Tehdastehdas> How to view reviews in Snap Store? How to edit my review?
[06:26] <Tehdastehdas> (Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS)
[07:01] <ogra> Tehdastehdas, if you mean the snap-store *app*, you sould perhaps ask in #ubuntu-desktop ...
[12:29] <mup> Issue snapcraft#4328 opened: Hard to see what the causes an error for a 404 network error <Bug> <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/issues/4328>
[13:20] <mup> PR snapd#13091 closed: daemon: enable --purge on multi-snap remove <Simple 😃> <Needs Documentation -auto-> <Created by ZeyadYasser> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13091>
[13:25] <mup> PR snapd#13086 closed: o/h/ctlcmd/mount.go: remove a useless start <Needs Documentation -auto-> <Created by valentindavid> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13086>
[13:40] <mup> PR snapd#13019 closed: many: use laid out types only for writing content <Squash-merge> <Run nested> <Needs Documentation -auto-> <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13019>
[13:40] <mup> PR snapd#13089 closed: snap: add components field to snap.yaml <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/13089>
[23:45] <mup> PR snapcraft#4329 opened: cli: prioritize `--use-lxd` over `SNAPCRAFT_BUILD_ENVIRONMENT` <Created by mr-cal> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4329>


[00:20] <nalioth> RoAkSoAx: are you around?
[00:20] <RoAkSoAx> nalioth, yep
[00:20] <nalioth> do you have a minute?
[00:20] <RoAkSoAx> nalioth, yep
[00:21] <RoAkSoAx> what's up
[21:36] <jpatrick> botijo_: %nick botijo
[21:36] <jpatrick> botijo_: nick botijo
[21:36] <jpatrick> there we go
[22:03] <civija> hey people!
[22:04] <civija> do you know who is behind this IRCSeekBot?
[22:04] <civija> I'm not sure do I kick it from channel or leave it
[22:04] <nalioth> civija: if you are the channel owner, it is your decision
[22:04] <civija> sorry, it's IRSeekBot
[22:05] <nalioth> civija: if you are not the channel owner, please bring it to the channel owners attention
[22:05] <civija> nalioth: yes, i am
[22:06] <civija> i'm op on that channel but i'm not sure is this bot somehow related to ubuntu or maybe some spammers
[22:09] <LjL> civija, www.irseek.com
[22:10] <LjL> civija: the bot has been allowed by the irc team in the channel it directly controls, but other ubuntu channels are absolutely free to opt in or out independently
[22:10] <civija> LjL: ok, tnx


[00:06] <jcb2016> thanks
[02:24] <r3db0t> Hi there! How can i connect to a wpa2 enterprise network?
[11:58] <julientm[m]> r3db0t: ensure you have wpa_supplicant ,and  wpa_cli or wpa_gui
[11:58] <julientm[m]> I would use the wpa_gui, to configure wpa2,
[11:59] <julientm[m]> More info https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WPA_supplicant#Connecting_with_wpa_cli
[17:38] <wacholder_01> hello
[17:47] <wxl> o/
[18:30] <DiscoDynamite> \o
[23:19] <jcb2016> hello. my wifi card is very hard to configure on ubuntu i just apt install bcmwl-kernel-source then modprobe wl and i get wifi. i just downloaded lubuntu and tried the same thing but it dosen't work the same way. any ideas on how to get wifi working. ive done the wifi setup about 10 times cause i have installed diffrent distros and ubuntu is the same setup.
[23:20] <wxl> and the version of ubuntu and the version of lubuntu you're using is the same?
[23:20] <jcb2016> umm on ubuntu its 18.0.4 and i think lubuntu is 19.01 i don't know
[23:21] <wxl> so try your system on ubuntu 19.04 and see if it works the same (probably doesn't)
[23:21] <wxl> things do change
[23:22] <jcb2016> the way i do it must be degraded or it just dosen't work. wierd
[23:22] <wxl> did you look at the current instructions?
[23:23] <wxl> and did you follow ALL of the instructions, such as ensuring other drivers are blacklisted?
[23:24] <wxl> (or at least unloaded)
[23:24] <jcb2016> on ubuntu yes. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx under the installing sta drivers
[23:24] <wxl> or since bcmwl-kernel-source provides a later driver, are you sure there aren't bugs in the new drivers?
[23:24] <wxl> again, things change. 19.04 has a brand new v5 kernel
[23:25] <wxl> you might try broadcom-sta instead
[23:26] <jcb2016> so instead of bcmwl-kernel-source do braodcom-sta?
[23:26] <wxl> yep. if there's some change in the newer drivers, broadcom-sta (the older drivers) might solve your problems
[23:27] <jcb2016> so try the broadcom-sta in 19.04 lubuntu?
[23:27] <wxl> yep
[23:28] <wxl> hey jcb2016 have you already started that process?
[23:29] <jcb2016> im about to reboot to lubuntu in live mode. brb
[23:30] <wxl> i'm curious what you've got from the logs (look in /var/log/syslog) regarding networking
[23:31] <wxl> or what happens when you do the modprobe
[23:31] <wxl> also i want to be doubly sure you did modprobe -r as the instructions say


[12:28] <gary_poster> oopsie
[12:28] <gary_poster> ok, so benji is out, and gmb is probably out...
[12:28] <gary_poster> but meanwhile...
[12:28] <gary_poster> bac, danilos, call in 3
[12:28] <bac> ok
[12:34] <danilos> https://rt.admin.canonical.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=48055
[12:35] <danilos> lp:~danilo/+junk/apache-investigator
[12:59] <gary_poster> danilos, just as an early warning, I'm going to have to stop for a moment and say good-bye to my mother in law soon.  It won't take more than a minute, so we can have our call and then pause it; or we can just wait to have our call till after I say good-bye.  Do you have a preference?
[13:00] <danilos> gary_poster, we can wait, no rush :)
[13:00] <gary_poster> ok thanks danilos :-)
[13:21] <gary_poster> ok danilos, that and various other interruptions are dealt with.   I'm sorry.  thank you for your patience.
[20:00] <gary_poster> bac http://www.danga.com/misc/jsdraw/xmlhttp.html :-P
[20:02] <gary_poster> bac looks like a fun proof of concept at least that could be made to work on an iPad or a web browser or an android thingy
[20:02] <bac> yep
[20:03] <bac> my officemate dave just got the samsung tablet.  it is pretty cool.  mozilla gave them to all employees.
[20:03] <bac> android still feels clunky, thought
[20:03] <bac> though
[20:26] <gary_poster> free tablet is cool
[20:27] <bac> chr
[21:10] <gary_poster> bye


[06:19] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:31] <seb128> goood morning desktopers!
[06:36] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN and seb128
[06:44] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[06:44] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[06:47] <seb128> heu duflun lut os
[06:47] <seb128> heu duflun lut oSoMoN, how are you?
[07:06] <pieq> Morning desktoppers!
[07:18] <oSoMoN> seb128, I'm not too bad, how are you?
[07:18] <oSoMoN> salut pieq
[07:32] <duflu> Hi pieq
[07:33] <duflu> seb128, two simultaneous family emergencies I'm helping the neighbour with. But I'm OK.  Never figured out why, there is nothing in the journal.
[08:46] <pieq> jibel, and since the kernel logs are not kept by default between reboots... there is an option to modify this
[08:48] <duflu> jibel, is that Intel graphics or other?
[08:48] <duflu> I think such problems are more common with AMD or Nvidia
[08:51] <jibel> duflu, intel
[08:52] <duflu> pieq, the kernel logs are surely kept in the journal. Just go 'journalctl -b-1' to see the previous one
[09:00] <jibel> from the journal the system resumes but the graphics stack is dead
[09:01] <seb128> is that the same machine where you don't get the analog sound output working?
[09:02] <jibel> yes
[09:03] <seb128> not a lucky choice of config for you :-(
[09:03] <jibel> it's really nothing fancy
[09:03] <jibel> all intel, i7 10th gen
[09:05] <pieq> 10th gen...
[09:05] <jibel> i'll try to ssh next time it happens, since the system seems to be alive, just the display doesn't come back
[09:05] <pieq> jibel, does it have  a dmic?
[09:06] <duflu> jibel, is there still a gnome-shell process? Did that crash?
[09:06] <jibel> pieq, yes
[09:07] <jibel> duflu, it didn't crash however I don't know if it was running
[09:07] <duflu> You probably want a gnome-shell process :)
[09:07] <jibel> duflu, right but from the color of the LEDs it's hard to tell :)
[09:08] <jibel> I mean I've no display, just the power led and the disk activity
[09:08] <duflu> Also check that Settings > Privacy > Diagnostics allows crash reports
[09:08] <jibel> it does
[09:09] <duflu> jibel, since the two are so different, maybe try 'Ubuntu on Wayland'?
[09:09] <duflu> two (backends)
[09:10] <jibel> Yeah, I'll try that. On my previous machine wayland was not so great but it was an AMD GPU.
[09:19] <pieq> jibel, yeah.... sorry about that. My work laptop is also facing this.
[09:19] <pieq> jibel, so I bought a USB headset with microphone
[09:23] <jibel> I'm currently using HDMI output
[09:23] <jibel> and the mic of the webcam
[09:24] <pieq> works too :) Actually, I'm having an issue with that. My screen has an audio jack output (no internal speakers), but every time I play some sound, it take 1~2 seconds before actually starting outputing sound
[09:24] <pieq> but I don't know if it's a PulseAudio issue or just a design issue with the screen (I don't have other OS at home I could try)
[09:25] <jibel> same setup, but I don't experience the delay
[09:27]  * pieq off, see you tomorrow!
[13:09] <heewa> While working on a calendar related bug, I came across some (probably unrelated) "user experience" difficulty, and I'm not sure how to go about understanding, diagnosing, and possibly addressing it (for the projects involved, not me personally as a single user). Is this the place I should ask about that, or is there a more appropriate channel?
[13:16] <oSoMoN> heewa, it depends on the actual question, really, but you can ask here and we will redirect you if it's not the right place
[13:16] <seb128> heewa, hey, depends of what softwares and problems you are talking about, upstream might be a better start point than ubuntu though
[13:21] <heewa> @seb128, I thought that might be the case. But I'm also curious about at what level Ubuntu tries to ensure a particular experience?
[13:21] <heewa> In a new virtual machine, with a clean install of a recent daily ISO of Focal, I added a Google account in order to get Calendar events to show up in the gnome shell panel applet. The account was added successfully, but no events. I tried installing Gnome Calendar, nothing. Tried installing Evolution - mail shows up, but not calendars. Tried removing & readding Google account - nothing.
[13:26] <seb128> heewa, I would recommend opening a bug on launchpad and/or gitlab including the journalctl log from your system, that's not normal, calendar are supposed to show up immediatly after the google account is activated (if you allowed calendar access in the setting, which should be the case by default)
[13:30] <seb128> ok, it's meeting time here
[13:30] <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-07-07
[13:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul  7 13:30:43 2020 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:31] <seb128> Roll call:  didrocks (out), duflu (out), heather, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine (out?), laney (out?), marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[13:31] <hellsworth> o/
[13:31] <jibel> \o
[13:31] <Trevinho> o/
[13:31] <oSoMoN> o/
[13:31] <marcustomlinson> \o
[13:31] <hellsworth> (btw,good morning everyone)
[13:31] <oSoMoN> morning hellsworth
[13:31] <kenvandine> sprinting :)
[13:31] <jibel> (good morning hellsworth )
[13:31] <seb128> (moooooorning :)
[13:31] <seb128> ok, let's get started
[13:32] <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug
[13:32] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:32] <seb128> #isdesktopfree
[13:32] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:32] <heewa> @seb128, Haha, thanks again! Sorry for the dupes, trying to find the right place without annoying too many ppl.
[13:32] <seb128> heewa, no worry, good luck in the debugging!
[13:33] <seb128> bug #1882248
[13:33] <seb128> sounds like Hui from the oem team is handling that, i will assign to him
[13:34] <seb128> bug #1883497
[13:34] <seb128> tjaalton, I'm assigning the bionic line to you there
[13:34] <seb128> that's it for bionic
[13:35] <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug
[13:35] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:35] <seb128> bug #1880258
[13:35] <tjaalton> ah right
[13:36] <seb128> does any one has an opinion on that one? I don't really, doesn't sound important to me
[13:36] <seb128> probably worth SRUing but I wouldn't rls nominate
[13:36] <seb128> rather to include with other fix when we do a SRU
[13:37] <seb128> unless someone disagrees I'm going to rls-notfixing this one
[13:37] <hellsworth> sgtm
[13:37] <oSoMoN> I don't disagree
[13:37] <seb128> k, done now
[13:39] <seb128> that was it (thanks L_aney for cleaning the noise)
[13:39] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:39] <seb128> bug #1874567 there
[13:39] <seb128> that's one for Trevinho who has a patch being worked on for some of the nvidia issues
[13:40] <Trevinho> yep
[13:40] <Trevinho> I wanted to upload before the holidays but failed as wanted to check few things more...
[13:40] <seb128> in fact it's already assigned, just the g-c-c line was not closed, I've done that now
[13:41] <seb128> Trevinho, should the driver side be marked invalid now as it as been confirmed to not be nvidia bug?
[13:41] <Trevinho> seb128: yep
[13:41] <seb128> thx
[13:41]  * Trevinho does that
[13:41] <seb128> and that's it for focal
[13:41] <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug
[13:41] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:42] <seb128> the pulseaudio one still needs a reply from Hui
[13:42] <seb128> the other oens are topic to talk with foundations about, let's skip those today
[13:42] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[13:43] <seb128> bug #1886024 is an archive admin task, just needs to be acted on
[13:43] <seb128> and that's it for bugs
[13:43] <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[13:43] <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[13:43] <seb128> bbswitch is going to be resolved by ^
[13:44] <seb128> nettle is a transition being worked on
[13:44] <seb128> the libxmlb/ppc issue needs to be investigated
[13:44] <seb128> any taker? I will trello card it, if you volunteer grab it
[13:44] <seb128> otherwise we will spin a bottle and see who is the winner :)
[13:45] <seb128> n-m / systemd should resolve itself with the updates from today
[13:45] <seb128> and that's it
[13:45] <seb128> #topic AOB
[13:45] <seb128> anything else?
[13:45] <oSoMoN> the libxml issue looks like https://github.com/hughsie/libxmlb/issues/59
[13:45] <gitbot> hughsie issue 59 in libxmlb "xb-self-test intermittently hang" [Open]
[13:46] <seb128> indeed
[13:46] <seb128> upstream basically baild out :/
[13:46] <oSoMoN> yeah
[13:48] <seb128> getting a gdb stacktrace might give a clue of where it hangs?
[13:48] <seb128> anyway, not one to sort out now
[13:48] <seb128> anything else?
[13:48] <oSoMoN> I can continue poking at it later, feel free to assign me to the card
[13:48] <oSoMoN> (nothing else from me)
[13:48] <seb128> thanks
[13:48] <seb128> it might fit well with your incoming +1 rotation :)
[13:49] <seb128> k, seems there is no other topic, nice efficient meeting
[13:49] <seb128> thanks team!
[13:49] <seb128> #endmeeting
[13:49] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jul  7 13:49:11 2020 UTC.
[13:49] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-07-07-13.30.moin.txt
[13:49] <hellsworth> thanks!
[13:49] <oSoMoN> thanks
[13:49] <marcustomlinson> dank
[15:02] <GunnarHj> Good afternoon, seb128. Any thoughts on when and how to address the ibus crashes?
[15:02] <GunnarHj> https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2020.04&package=ibus&period=month&version=1.5.22-2ubuntu2
[15:15] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, how are you? 'no particular though out of 'would be nice to have someone able to trigger the issue or at least describe what they do to hit it'
[15:19] <GunnarHj> seb128: I have been following one of the upstream bug trackers (ibus-avro) for a while, and my impression is that they just type and suddenly it stops working. This Ask Ubuntu question illustrates it: https://askubuntu.com/q/1256510
[15:20] <seb128> GunnarHj, k, I was wondering if that's a crash on shutdown or session closing
[15:20] <seb128> bug #1871625 states 'after I closed and reopened my session.'
[15:28] <GunnarHj> seb128: That bug report doesn't help much; we don't even know if the bug reporter uses IBus input methods. But I have seen several reports from users who use input methods and who complains that it suddenly stops to work. I'm assuming that the frequent ibus crashes have something to do with it.
[15:31] <GunnarHj> seb128: It would be good if someone with sufficient skill could dig into those error logs...
[15:47] <seb128> GunnarHj, right, the issue is that the stacktrace does sounds like a memory corruption so it's not clear the debug info we have are enough to give a proper clue about what could be going on :-/
[16:00] <GunnarHj> seb128: Sounds tricky. And few crash bug reporters stay long enough to help provide additional info and/or tell how to reproduce it.
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[08:31] <mup> PR snapd#12501 opened: interfaces/modem-manager: add permissions for NETLINK_ROUTE <Needs security review> <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12501>
[09:31] <mup> PR snapd#12491 closed: systemd/emulation.go: use `systemctl --root` to enable/disable <Run nested> <cherry-picked> <Created by valentindavid> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12491>
[09:52] <mup> PR snapd#12502 opened: tests/main/lxd-mount-units: fix a check <Created by valentindavid> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12502>
[10:02] <mup> PR snapd#12503 opened: tests: fix lxd-mount-units test <Test Robustness> <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12503>
[10:07] <mup> PR snapd#12503 closed: tests: fix lxd-mount-units test <Test Robustness> <Created by mvo5> <Closed by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12503>
[10:52] <mup> PR snapd#12466 closed: interfaces: add the USB-ID of Thetis Fido U2F Key to u2f-devices <Squash-merge> <Created by gunterkoenigsmann> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12466>
[10:52] <mup> PR snapd#12501 closed: interfaces/modem-manager: add permissions for NETLINK_ROUTE <cherry-picked> <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12501>
[11:27] <mup> PR snapd#12504 opened: o/configstate: move Conf{,Setter} from config to configcore <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12504>
[12:02] <mup> PR snapd#12505 opened: packing: link snap-seccomp against static libseccomp <Created by Meulengracht> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12505>
[12:47] <mup> PR snapd#12506 opened: tests: add ubuntu kinetic to google-sru backend <Simple 😃> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12506>
[18:34] <mup> PR snapd#12502 closed: tests/main/lxd-mount-units: fix a check <Test Robustness> <Created by valentindavid> <Merged by sergiocazzolato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12502>


[00:44] <Not_a_Robot> Guys can you help me? I can't set a wallpaper. I apply the change but nothing... Any idea, please? The wallpaper is just black screen..
[01:30] <Zren> Not_a_Robot, When you right click, do you get a menu?
[01:34] <Not_a_Robot> Zren: yes, yes. I change it there, but nothing happens (I use an external monitor). I would like to find another  way, maybe using the terminal or something, I don't know.
[01:35] <Zren> Ah, so you don't get a right click menu when you click on that monitor's "wallpaper"?
[01:35] <Zren> Sounds like plasmashell crashed then.
[01:37] <Zren> kquitapp plasmashell; plasmashell & disown
[01:37] <Zren> Not_a_Robot,
[01:37] <Zren> Oh I totally misunderstood, you do get a menu
[01:37] <Not_a_Robot> Zren: I get the menu, yes.
[01:37] <Zren> hmmm
[01:37] <Not_a_Robot> What I say is that setting the wallpaper there
[01:37] <Not_a_Robot> does not work
[01:38] <Not_a_Robot> Ah ok, sorry xD
[01:38] <Zren> what filetype? Not_a_Robot
[01:38] <Not_a_Robot> both png and jpg
[01:38] <Zren> wallpaper type = Image
[01:38] <Zren> positiong = ?
[01:39] <Zren> is the file on a different drive? (grasping at straws)
[01:39] <Not_a_Robot> http://uploadpie.com/2YwqC
[01:39] <Not_a_Robot> Is not related to the files, really.
[01:40] <Not_a_Robot> The issue is related to plasma or whatever because this is a problem I didn't have before
[01:40] <Not_a_Robot> weeks ago I had wallpapers
[01:40] <Zren> have you relogged since this occured?
[01:40] <Not_a_Robot> yes
[01:40] <Not_a_Robot> rebooted, etc
[01:40] <Zren> so it's persistent, odd
[01:41] <Zren> try changing to folder view
[01:41] <Not_a_Robot> I updated the system too but nothing
[01:41] <Not_a_Robot> ok
[01:41] <Zren> Layout = folder
[01:42] <Not_a_Robot> Meh... nothing ^^' I tried everything before asking xDD
[01:42] <Not_a_Robot> Do you know
[01:42] <Not_a_Robot> if there is a file
[01:42] <Not_a_Robot> where I can set the wallpaper manually?
[01:43] <Zren> ~/.config/org.kde.plasma-applets or some such
[01:43] <Zren> is where it's saved
[01:43] <Zren> but you'd need to edit it while plasma isn't running for it to take effect
[01:43] <Not_a_Robot> Oh,,,
[01:43] <Zren> since it writes tot it on save
[01:44] <Zren> yeaaaaaah. tis annoying.
[01:44] <Zren> open it in your text editor, then run kquitapp plasmashell
[01:45] <Zren> then: plasmashell & disown (after you save)
[01:45] <Zren> ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc
[01:49] <Zren> tbh Not_a_Robot, you have multiple monitors right?
[01:49] <Not_a_Robot> I have an 17" laptop and a 55" UHD monitor
[01:50] <Not_a_Robot> but I don't use the laptop screen
[01:50] <Not_a_Robot> I just disable it
[01:52] <Zren> Just checking, but the contents of your ~/Desktop folder are now shown on the desktop right?
[01:53] <Zren> Does reenabling the other screen show your wallpaper?
[01:53] <Not_a_Robot> Nope and nope
[01:53] <Not_a_Robot> xD
[01:53] <Not_a_Robot> In the past
[01:53] <Not_a_Robot> what I did was
[01:53] <Zren> I know there was a few screen related problems in kde.
[01:53] <Not_a_Robot> to set the main screen on the laptop
[01:53] <Not_a_Robot> and then change it again
[01:54] <Not_a_Robot> and the wallpaper issue was solved
[01:54] <Not_a_Robot> but now, even that, is not enough
[01:54] <Not_a_Robot> Thank you Zren for your help and time, I really appreciate it
 Hi... Anybody help me?
[06:14] <acheronuk> !ask
 How to set a default boot on dual boot machine?
[06:16] <hateball> Do you want it to be permanent?
[06:16] <hateball> You can either make an entry permanent, or you can have grub remember the last used
 @hateball, yes, I want it
[06:19] <hateball> Which one? One always permanent, or remember last used?
 @hateball, permanent one
[06:24] <hateball> well, you will need to edit /etc/default/grub and change GRUB_DEFAULT=0 to the entry you want
[06:24] <hateball> where 0 is the first entry in the generated /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:25] <hateball> it's quite a headache, I think
 @hateball, I have done. But nothing change. Can you show me an axample code, please?
[06:26] <hateball> after you've made the change you need to run "sudo update-grub" to generate a new grub.cfg
 @hateball, ok thanks... I'll try it...
[06:29] <hateball> personally I would just use "GRUB_DEFAULT=saved" and add the line "GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true"
[06:29] <hateball> that way it will remember what you booted last and continue using that until you manually switch
 @hateball, oh... I see... I didn't add that line... OK thanks again...
 @hateball, it work... thanks...
[06:39] <hateball> :)
[06:45] <Fritigern> Installing Beta2 of Yakkety. Wish me luck!
[07:01] <valorie> Fritigern, I've had a good experience with it so far
[08:26] <sayur> hello guys
[08:26] <Fritigern> Selamat!
[08:26] <sayur> i using plasma 5, where i found sound balance setting ?
[08:27] <hateball> sayur: what do you mean "sound balance" ?
[08:28] <sayur> hateball: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=107617
[08:29] <sayur> i not found in plasma 5
[08:30] <hateball> ah yes
[08:31] <hateball> hmmm, perhaps that is not present in the volume applet now
[08:32] <sayur> any solution for me ?
[08:37] <hateball> sayur: I wonder if you can do it by installing pavucontrol maybe
[08:37] <hateball> and using that
[08:37] <hateball> or straight up use pacmd
[08:41] <acheronuk> hateball: pavucontrol can do that, yes. click the little shield that says 'lock channels together' to disable that lock
[08:42] <hateball> acheronuk: might want to direct that to sayur :)
[08:42] <acheronuk> sayur: ^^^ see above
[08:42] <sayur> acheronuk: thanks
[08:46] <sayur> my problem solved thanks acheronuk hateball
[08:46] <hateball> sayur: :)
[08:46] <hateball> sayur: I think the native applet in plasma 5.8 will have better functionality
[08:54] <atdprhs> Hi, I made a backup copy using kubuntu before reinstallation, I copied my home folder (unencrypted) to my external hdd, unfortionately I didn't check whether or not the files has been moved
[08:54] <atdprhs> I reinstalled my kubuntu, and then when I visited the folder, it has all of the subfolders but no single file?
[08:55] <atdprhs> So Unfortionately I do not have any files, this is really sad and disturbing :(
[08:56] <atdprhs> Interestingly when I view folder's properties, I see it says > 5 GB and > 25k files
[08:59] <sayur> hateball: where i can check my plasma version ?
[09:01] <hateball> sayur: "plasmashell -v"
[09:07] <acheronuk> hateball: applet in 5.8 doesn't seem to allow slip channels here
[09:07] <acheronuk> *split
[09:13] <hateball> acheronuk: ack
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:48] <Not_a_Robot> Hey friends, do you know how can I restart KMail?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Not_a_Robot, sudo systemctl restart kmail? or akonadi server ?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> I'm not akmail user
[12:50] <Smurphy> kmixeryou can't restart kmail. What do you want to restart? KMail is an application. You stop it, and you start it.
[15:08] <germyn> is this where I can get some help?
[15:10] <acheronuk> !ask
[15:11] <germyn> ok
[15:14] <germyn> I try to install additional drivers and all it says is collecting information and does not do nothing.I have kubuntu the latest and I am trying to install ati drivers. This is my problem.The driver manager does nothing. How can I install the drivers?
[15:22] <marco-parillo> Could it be this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-driver-manager/+bug/1280310
[15:33] <germyn> I found that I did not have this. python3-dbus.mainloop.qt. I installed it and it still hangs on collecting information.
[15:53] <pelp> Hey Fellas
[15:54] <pelp> I was wondering if there was going to be another kubuntu party sometime? I was at the last and I really enjoyed it. :)
[15:54] <Smurphy> There was one? Where???
[15:55] <pelp> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-party-3/
[15:55] <Smurphy> Nice: alcohol infused in said beverage – Optional
[15:55] <Smurphy> :D
[15:55] <pelp> :D
[16:02] <germyn> Any other ideas on getting the driver manager to work?
[16:07] <rattking> hey folks with Haswell-ULT graphics.. what AccelMethod for the intel video driver are you using? I have been having instability and font corruption with both sna and uxa method, and issues with plasma not responding after hot plugging an external monitor.. I have been running Driver "modesetting" Option "AccelMethod" "glamor" since this morning and the hotplugging seems better and I have not noticed the
[16:07] <rattking> other issues yet.
[16:20] <pelp> Oh, sorry guys I linked the wrong pary
[16:20] <pelp> *party
[16:20] <pelp> I was on this one http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-party-4-the-gathering-of-halflings/
[17:17] <chet> /j #ubuntu
[17:18] <chet> ???
[17:19] <noodlesnod> voice?
[17:40] <paranoidabhi> hi
[17:40] <paranoidabhi> which kde version will be shipped with kubuntu 16.10?
[17:41] <paranoidabhi> any upcoming backports for kubuntu 16.04? Was hoping to get in on the multi-monitor bug-fixes.
[20:19] <valorie> paranoidabhi: do you have backports enabled?
[20:19] <valorie> for 16.04
[20:20] <valorie> for 16.10, we have plasma 5.7.2 I believe
[20:20] <valorie> we might get 5.74 in, if possible
[20:20] <paranoidabhi> valorie, yes I have them enabled.
[20:20] <valorie> 5.8 soon after release, in backports
[20:21] <valorie> we have to get YY out the door first, and it's been slow for a great number of reasons
[20:21] <paranoidabhi> valorie, awesome, so sometime in Nov?
[20:22] <valorie> 5.8 is being released right now, so yes, soon
[20:22] <valorie> no efforts on that right now, beyond letting it build automatically in our CI
[20:24] <acheronuk>  5.8 will have 3 bugfix updates in October (5.8.1 to 5.8.3), so there will be a lot of updates to package
[20:25] <acheronuk> though point releases should be minimal effort