[11:12] <bzimage> fair enough
[11:12] <bzimage> :)
[11:12] <pamela> hi
[11:12] <bzimage> (aka problems)
[11:12] <bzimage> hi
[11:12] <nalioth> Cryptid: you can upgrade from your current hoary when the time comes
[11:13] <gorilla> thanks peopel... I can see myself wasting plenty of time with neverball.
[11:13] <pamela> wanna chat?
[11:13] <nalioth> pamela: in #ubuntu-offtopic, sure thing
[11:13] <bzimage> pamela, if its functional, ubuntu related, sure
[11:13] <pamela> unsa?
[11:13] <bzimage> :)
[11:13] <pamela> yeo!
[11:13] <pamela> hi
[11:13] <nalioth> tagalog in #ubuntu-ph
[11:14] <pamela> wanna chat?bzimage?
[11:14] <nalioth> pamela: this is not a chat channel, it is a help channel
[11:14] <pamela> ambot!
[11:14] <Skid> lol
[11:14] <Cryptid> nalioth, can i upgrade my hoary to breezy using the cds without having to format and reinstall
[11:15] <sskk> When in the install process of ubuntu is hardware specifik packages/configuration made? - I'm trying to get ubuntu on my old drive-less thinkpad x21. I'm trying to hit a shortcut by moving my x21 HD to a thinkpad T21 (which has CD-drive). Then perform some of the install on the T21, and move the harddisk back to the X21, when I don't need the CD anymore. Will this give be problems on the long run? (wrong HW configuration or alike?)
[11:15] <nalioth> Cryptid: yes you can
[11:15] <Cryptid> nalioth, oh good
[11:15] <stan|uni> pamela, pls join #ubuntu-offtopic for finding chat partners...
[11:15] <cicccioo> salve a tutti
[11:15] <nalioth> !it
[11:15] <ubotu> nalioth: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:16] <stan|uni> nalioth, but there is still a risk in upgrading, isn't there?
[11:16] <cat> cicccioo: #ubuntu-it
[11:16] <sobersabre> are the xorg updates for breezy edible ??
[11:16] <sobersabre> ( the current ones )
[11:16] <ccooke-work> sskk: I don't know anyone who has tried it. The danger is if you need kernel parameters to boot your thinkpad correctlyh
[11:16] <lorenzod> sobresabre, will know in a few minutes..
[11:17] <Corden> hi to all ubuntu fans
[11:17] <bzimage> cicccioo: La scanalatura italiana di sostegno  # ubuntu-esso
[11:17] <stan|uni> hoi Corden
[11:17] <xukun> ist possible to copy and paste on console without selecting the right mice button and then copy? I have seen this before but I dont know how to do it
[11:17] <bzimage> cicccioo: La scanalatura italiana di sostegno  # ubuntu-it
[11:17] <cat> xukun: install gpm
[11:17] <Corden> hello stan|uni
[11:17] <nalioth> cafuego: you here?
[11:17] <ccooke-work> sskk: installing the base system should be hardware independant, so if you wait until the reboot to install the rest of the systems, then swap the disk over... it should work.
[11:17] <sobersabre> lorenzod, please be fast :) i cann't wait.
[11:18] <nalioth> bzimage: ubotu doesnt speak italian, the stupid bot
[11:18] <lorenzod> sobersabre, so I'm your guinea-pig now ;-)
[11:18] <ccooke-work> xukun: yes. Just select with the left button (highlight the text) and paste with the middle button (press on the scroll-wheel if you have one).
[11:18] <Corden> i have something to ask from you guys
[11:18] <bzimage> nalioth, that's why i translated... ;)
[11:18] <Corden> hope you can help, i know you can :)
[11:18] <ccooke-work> xunil: there are two *seperate* clipboards for these, though
[11:18] <sobersabre> lorenzod, hmmm... that's another way to look at it.
[11:18] <ccooke-work> er. xukun.
[11:18] <sobersabre> :)
[11:18] <nalioth> bzimage: i think ubotu hates italian, he wont even learn the phrase
[11:18] <sskk> ccooke-work - so that's just about doing the basic install, and switch, when it would like to reboot, I guess... Thanks.
[11:18] <bzimage> lol
[11:19] <nalioth> bzimage: havta get with cafuego to beat some sense into the bots head
[11:19] <bzimage> !tell corden about ask
[11:19] <stan|uni> Corden, fire away
[11:19] <ccooke-work> sskk: just remember - if your thinkpad needs special options to boot, you'll have to play with grub to get it working. That could be hard.
[11:19] <jnil> what is the best application to get receive images from a usb digital camera?
[11:19] <lorenzod> Slightly offtopic, but can anybody compare eclipse from the repos with the eclipse.org ones?
[11:19] <cat> jnil: gtkam
[11:19] <bzimage> nalioth, haha
[11:19] <bzimage> :P
[11:19] <stan|uni> jnil, gtkam
[11:19] <jnil> i tried gtkam
[11:19] <sskk> ccooke: yes.. But can I be sure, that if it boots, then everything should be fine?
[11:20] <jnil> and its not working
[11:20] <Corden> i just installed ubuntu on my pc last night, i had a slave hdd, how can i access it and view all the files?
[11:20] <jnil> it doesnt recognize my camera
[11:20] <ompaul> lorenzod, you can if you install it and do a diff on the sources
[11:20] <bzimage> jnil, use the right module then
[11:20] <bzimage> ;)
[11:20] <nalioth> Corden: what was on the slave?
[11:20] <cat> jnil: you need to configured it
[11:20] <xukun> cat, ccooke-work thanks guys it works now
[11:20] <ccooke-work> sskk: no, you can't. But it *probably* will.
[11:20] <cat> xukun: np
[11:20] <lorenzod> ompaul, wasn't really interested in the diffs at that level..
[11:20] <ompaul> lorenzod, where it = sources
[11:20] <Corden> installers and my reference ebooks
[11:20] <nalioth> !tell Corden about windowsdrives
[11:21] <ccooke-work> sskk: without knowing the ins and outs of your hardware, there's no way for us to tell you with absolute certainty.
[11:21] <reter> cat, i tried to add a camera. it rejects any choice i make
[11:21] <xukun> cat, can you also help me installing skype on ubuntu hoary
[11:21] <xukun> ?
[11:21] <sskk> coo
[11:21] <sskk> ccooke: right - thanks then... I'll go experiment.
[11:21] <ompaul> lorenzod, what I suggest is that you look at the version number in use on Ubuntu and the version number on the site and then check the changelog for differences
[11:21] <bzimage> Corden, also notice: windows installers may not work (if using wine) at all on Linux.
[11:22] <Corden> so what would i do to have access and view my files?
[11:22] <xukun> I dont find anything with apt-cache search skype
[11:22] <bzimage> Corden, read the ubotu message
[11:22] <xukun> what do I need to add in my sources.list?
[11:22] <Juharanto> You must add skype to your repository
[11:22] <aftertaf> repeated ping shows 15% avg packet loss for proxy....
[11:23] <linner> aftertaf:  that's sad
[11:23] <Corden> on ububtu documentation?
[11:23] <bzimage> yes
[11:23] <nalioth> Corden: ubotu sent you a private msg with info to answer your question
[11:23] <Juharanto> xukun:  check this:
[11:23] <Juharanto> http://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/repositories.html
[11:23] <linner> aftertaf:  and it sucks for someone trying to carry on a conversation with you
[11:24] <bzimage> Juharanto, why does het NEED that?
[11:24] <bzimage> :P
[11:24] <xukun> Juharanto, thanks a lot
[11:24] <Corden> tnx nalioth
[11:24] <drazQ> does ubuntu have support for Sun's java? The wiki is a bit diffuse, it says "(..)assuming they happen to
[11:24] <drazQ>                support your platform." ..
[11:24] <Juharanto> Hmm..
[11:25] <bzimage> xukun, your free to add repositories as you like. (but keep in mind that mixing official repos with non official ones can damage your system!)
[11:25] <nalioth> drazQ: hoary or breezy? x86 or ppc or amd64?
[11:25] <drazQ> amd64/breezy
[11:25] <linner> night knelix
[11:25] <drazQ> 1.4.2 and 1.5
[11:25] <xukun> bzimage, if there is other way please tel me
[11:25] <Juharanto> I have amd64 and breezy works greatfully!
[11:26] <bzimage> xukun, for a start, you could add the multiverse and universe repos to your list
[11:26] <ompaul> !tell drazQ about java
[11:26] <bzimage> (wich are commented out by default)
[11:26] <bzimage> !tell xukun about repos
[11:27] <reter> cat, any suggestions? any other usb digital camera programs to try?
[11:27] <drazQ> ompaul: I've read the wiki; As I said, I find it a bit diffuse, as they state 'assuming they (Sun) support your platform' .. I'm considering Ubuntu, so Ubuntu is debian, debian is linux, and linux is supported .. correct? *confused* :)
[11:28] <nalioth> drazQ: java is easily procured for your platform from Sun, and installed following the wiki
[11:28] <ompaul> drazQ, be unconfused, it does work on Ubuntu
[11:29] <lorenzod> drazQ, not only your os needs to be supported, but your hardware architecture as well..
[11:29] <bzimage> drazQ, correct. (but each distribution: linux flavour, has it's own package system. So using a prepackaged piece of software for a certain distro is handy)
[11:29] <linner> goodnight everyone
[11:29] <xukun> bzimage, this is what I have, can you please take a look? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2609
[11:29] <sobersabre> lorenzod, what's up with xorg ... ? :)
[11:30] <drazQ> ok, thanks guys .. just needed to confirm that I will be able to install the official release
[11:30] <_pir>  helo.. is there any ability in bmp to quick search in the play list.. (like F3 in winamp)..?
[11:30] <lorenzod> sobersabre: finished downloading, installing.
[11:31] <ompaul> +r ? anyone bots are there
[11:31] <lorenzod> When you see me quit, that means, I'm logging out/in..
[11:31] <lorenzod> Hopefully you'll see me back online a few minutes later :)
[11:31] <nalioth> ompaul: bots?
[11:31] <lemmy> hi
[11:32] <bzimage> xukun, avoid double entries
[11:32] <bzimage> but is looks ok..
[11:32] <lemmy> i just upgraded to latest kernel in breezy and now my bootsplash i gone. anybody knows how to turn it back on?
[11:32] <bzimage> reload the repos list..
[11:32] <ompaul> nalioth, zolgiiu and one or two others
[11:33] <bzimage> (via synaptic or via command: sudo apt-get update)
[11:33] <hutgyrr> if I want to backup to multiple disks (DVDs or Hard Drives). Can I get external arrays, and can they be controlled simultaneously from linux?
[11:33] <xukun> bzimage, but that sources.list I still cant apt-get skype
[11:33] <xukun> bzimage, ..with that ..
[11:33] <bzimage> ooh you want skype... i didn't know that..
[11:33] <bzimage> (i thought you just wanted extra repositories)
[11:34] <xukun> bzimage, yes I want skype
[11:34] <bzimage> well.. than Juharanto made a good reply
[11:34] <ompaul> xukun, have you got the lib3c-mt installed?
[11:34] <xukun> bzimage, aha
[11:34] <xukun> ompaul, sec please
[11:34] <bzimage> xukun, Juharanto xukun:  check this:
[11:34] <bzimage> Juharanto http://www.skype.com/products/skype/linux/repositories.html
[11:35] <bzimage> (c/p form earlier)
[11:35] <bzimage> err
[11:35] <bzimage> from
[11:35] <xukun> bzimage,but then you said:  xukun, your free to add repositories as you like. (but keep in mind that mixing official repos with non official ones can damage your system!)
[11:35] <deFrysk> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[11:36] <bzimage> xukun, that's right... there's allways a certain danger...
[11:36] <xukun> bzimage, you made me think twise
[11:37] <Qantourisc> what is the terminal package manger for ubuntu ( need to upgrade in the hope x wil lwork then)
[11:37] <bzimage> xukun, download the skype file deFrysk gave you
[11:37] <nalioth> xukun: better to compile from source (or have your machine do it) than use unofficial stuff
[11:37] <nalioth> !tell Qantourisc about apt
[11:37] <Qantourisc> aa so ubunut used apt with a gui over it
[11:38] <bzimage> Qantourisc, no.. it uses apt.. and also have a gui over it :)
[11:38] <bzimage> (but you still can use it without gui)
[11:38] <bzimage> well.. gui.. X gui to be precise ;)
[11:38] <Qantourisc> :p
[11:39] <Qantourisc> gui = graphical unit interface :p
[11:39] <Qantourisc> so can be a lot :p X, web, etz. ..
[11:39] <bzimage> user not unit
[11:39] <bzimage> :P
[11:39] <xukun> ompaul, no lib3c-mt installed
[11:39] <Qantourisc> lol oeps :p
[11:39] <xukun> bzimage, I get the file.
[11:40] <ompaul> xukun, that repo that was pointed to add it and use it :-)
[11:40] <bzimage> Qantourisc,  that's why i rephrased it..
[11:40] <bzimage> :)
[11:40] <ompaul> xukun, it did not exist a few days ago :)
[11:40] <uazmatch> hallo
[11:40] <Qantourisc> :p
[11:40] <Qantourisc> ubdating
[11:40] <Qantourisc> *updating
[11:41] <Qantourisc> lol ubotu, clever name :p
[11:41] <sobersabre> deFrysk, is this skype package with fixed dependency ?
[11:41] <any> hi
[11:41] <bzimage> hi
[11:41] <deFrysk> sobersabre, this package should work afaIk
[11:42] <any> I have ubuntu breezy but I would like to get the new kate, can I add kubuntu breezy mirror to my source.list ?
[11:42] <any> NO conflicts ?
[11:42] <deFrysk> sobersabre, with te deps required of course
[11:42] <Qantourisc> howlong would a aptget take ?
[11:42] <ompaul> xukun, the loading speed of skype is bad
[11:43] <parterre> Hello im Mona from Germany, sorry my english is not so god, but i have a problem
[11:43] <nalioth> Qantourisc: depends on how much stuff you need
[11:43] <deFrysk> parterre, there is a german room : /j #ubuntu-de
[11:44] <nalioth> parterre: ask your question, please
[11:44] <Qantourisc> nalioth: a blank ubunut 5.01 installation
[11:45] <parterre> i have delete my trash and cant find to reinstall it
[11:45] <deFrysk> parterre, rightklick your panen > add > trash applet
[11:45] <deFrysk> panel*
[11:46] <uazmatch> hallo
[11:46] <Raptoid> siziz siterim
[11:46] <Raptoid> beni dellendirmeyin.
[11:46] <parterre> Thank you a lot i got it
[11:46] <lorenzod> Hmm.. I wonder what did this: gtk update, xorg update or kernel update..
[11:47] <xukun> I addes that repos for skype in my sources. list, but now if I apt-get install skype than I get this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2610
[11:47] <lorenzod> All of a sudden everything feels really snappy!
[11:47] <xukun> ..added
[11:48] <Qantourisc> anything i must do after apt-get upgrade ?
[11:48] <Qantourisc> in gentoo it where thins as env-update etc-update etz ...
[11:48] <Qantourisc> anything in ubuntu ?
[11:48] <deFrysk> xukun, not on breezy ?
[11:49] <xukun> deFrysk, no I,m using hoary
[11:49] <lorenzod> Qantourisc: not really.
[11:49] <deFrysk> xukun, probably thats the reason then
[11:49] <Qantourisc> ok
[11:49] <lorenzod> But sometimes you want to dpkg-reconfigure <package>
[11:49] <Qantourisc> then i must continue :p
[11:49] <uazmatch> daaamm
[11:49] <deFrysk> xukun, the static.deb on the skype site workt fine in hoary afaIk
[11:49] <Qantourisc> i have an I915GM chipset
[11:49] <lorenzod> But Ubuntu != Gentoo..
[11:50] <Qantourisc> i know :p
[11:50] <deFrysk> works*
[11:50] <bzimage> lorenzod, indeed... ubuntu = debian
[11:50] <xukun> deFrysk, no becouse I had this problem on my home breezy too
[11:50] <lorenzod> bzimage: more or less, yes.
[11:50] <deFrysk> xukun, wait till seveas is around , he probably knows who how and what
[11:50] <cat> !yum
[11:51] <ubotu> cat: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:51] <teenie> is there anybody have tried ubuntu linux?
[11:51] <lorenzod> teenie: hm...
[11:51] <eliphas_> euh no
[11:51] <eliphas_> what 's that?
[11:51] <xukun> deFrysk, thanks I will
[11:51] <teenie> how about turbo linux?
[11:51] <deFrysk> cat yum is the yellow dog updater
[11:51] <Qantourisc> ok i n #gento osome knew about an issue iI915gm
[11:52] <teenie> * Topic for #ubuntu is: Official Ubuntu Help channel | Colony 5 is out: http://tinyurl.com/85dry | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Documentation: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation - http://doc.ubuntu.com | Use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Found a bug? http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[11:52] <teenie> * Topic for #ubuntu set by crimsun at Wed Sep 28 14:16:26 2005
[11:52] <teenie> * kafeine has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[11:52] <teenie> lorenzod bzimage: more or less, yes.
[11:52] <teenie> deFrysk xukun, wait till seveas is around , he probably knows who how and what
[11:52] <teenie> cat !yum
[11:52] <teenie> ubotu cat: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:52] <ubotu> teenie: okay
[11:52] <teenie> * parterre has quit ("Verlassend")
[11:52] <teenie> teenie is there anybody have tried ubuntu linux?
[11:52] <teenie> lorenzod teenie: hm...
[11:52] <teenie> * stephank<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[11:52] <teenie> eliphas_ euh no
[11:52] <teenie> eliphas_ what 's that?
[11:52] <teenie> teenie how about turbo linux?
[11:52] <teenie> xukun deFrysk, thanks I will
[11:52] <teenie> deFrysk cat yum is the yellow dog updater
[11:52] <teenie> * Kaltzu<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[11:52] <teenie> Qantourisc ok i n #gento osome knew about an issue iI915gm
[11:52] <teenie> p
[11:52] <bzimage> teeenie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:53] <deFrysk> it left
[11:53] <Qantourisc> sory :p
[11:53] <deFrysk> he/she/or it left
[11:53] <bzimage> guessing it
[11:53] <bzimage> :P
[11:53] <Qantourisc> someone at #gentoo knew about the fact that there was an issue in ubunutu with i915gm
[11:53] <deFrysk> bzimage, agree :D
[11:53] <bzimage> :D
[11:54] <user__> how to install acrobat?
[11:54] <deFrysk> !acroread
[11:54] <ubotu> acroread is probably wget http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/deb/adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i adobereader-enu_7.0.1-2_i386.deb
[11:55] <deFrysk> user__, ubotu knows :)
[11:56] <deFrysk> user__, if you are on breezy try evince , it rocks
[11:56] <user__> what is evince?
[11:56] <deFrysk> user__, a replacement for a.r.
[11:57] <user__> where i can get that?
[11:57] <deFrysk> apt-get it if you dont have it
[11:57] <deFrysk> evince is a killer app
[11:57] <cat> !evince
[11:58] <ubotu> cat: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:58] <cat> what's evince?
[11:58] <Qantourisc> isn't there some sort of starter guide for ubunut ?
[11:58] <cat> Qantourisc: ubuntu.com
[11:58] <cat> !doc
[11:58] <ubotu> from memory, doc is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is a good doc to read
[11:58] <Qantourisc> there is only a seach option
[11:58] <Clankerus> hi
[11:59] <Clankerus> I have some questions about installing ubuntu
[11:59] <deFrysk> !info evince
[11:59] <ubotu> evince: (Document (postscript, pdf) viewer), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.9-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 189 kB, Installed size: 788 kB
[11:59] <deFrysk> !botsnack
[11:59] <ubotu> :)
[12:00] <Qantourisc> hmm whats the official ubunutu kernel ?
[12:00] <Clankerus> when u have burned it onto a cd.. does the computer boot from the cd when installing or do I have to start the cd when the computer is turned on and im using windows?
[12:00] <deFrysk> Clankerus, boot from cd is my way of doing it
[12:00] <skrangle> hi, i tried installing ubuntu on a amd laptop, and it said i needed a 32bit version or something .. where do i get this ?
[12:00] <Clankerus> so how do I do to burn it.. is it a iso image?
[12:01] <rejden> skrangle, heh, that's x86 version
[12:01] <deFrysk> Clankerus, yes its an iso image
[12:01] <rejden> skrangle, amd64 is version for 64bit computers, afaik only apple have 64bit laptops....
[12:01] <skrangle> rejden what do you mean?
[12:01] <deFrysk> Clankerus, make sure to burn the iso , don't copy it
[12:01] <mad> hi ppl :D
[12:01] <rejden> skrangle, that you need x86 iso not amd64
[12:01] <mad> openoffice presentation: add -> object -> audio is not clickable, why? i need sound in my presentation. anyone?
[12:02] <Clankerus> okey but i have never done this before ... do i just make a cd with nero and burn the file on the disc cause i dont think it starts by itself if I do liek that
[12:02] <mjr> rejden, (there are amd64 laptops, but yes, skrangle doesn't seem to have one)
[12:02] <deFrysk> Clankerus, http://www.weethet.nl/english/cdrw_usingnero_iso.php
[12:02] <rejden> mjr, i said afaik :)
[12:02] <deFrysk> Clankerus, try that :)
[12:02] <rejden> mjr, yeah i think i saw some ultrasparc laptops..
[12:02] <skrangle> rejden, ok, i thought the i386 was for intel only
[12:03] <rejden> skrangle, not intel, x86 is platform
[12:03] <mjr> rejden, ultrasparc isn't amd64, though :)
[12:03] <rejden> mjr, well :D
[12:03] <skrangle> k, tx :)
[12:03] <Qantourisc> lets hope the patches are enough
[12:03] <Qantourisc> say patches aren't they only for the kernel source ?
[12:03] <Clankerus> okey thx =)
[12:03] <mad> hm
[12:04] <deFrysk> Clankerus, good luck , and dont burn the iso at full speed , safer to do half speed for better writing
[12:04] <Penguin> is there a ubuntu fun channel to know users a little bit better? :-)
[12:04] <bzimage> Qantourisc, que
[12:04] <bzimage> ?
[12:05] <Kuolio> Penguin: ubuntu-offtopic and ubuntuforums for active forum-users
[12:05] <deFrysk> Penguin, what do you mean ? a channel like ubuntu-offtopic ?
[12:05] <Penguin> eh, I'm not active so nvm but thx :)
[12:05] <xukun> anybody know about the public release of Xten's XLite Linux version?
[12:05] <Penguin> yeah :-)
[12:05] <skrangle> oh man i cant wait to put windows behind me, ive been waiting for this for as long as i can remember
[12:05] <Clankerus> allright... Ill try my best to make it work..!!
[12:05] <Qantourisc> bzimage: well i915gm wil lneed some updates, so currently im't trying to update xorg and the kernel
[12:05] <Qantourisc> i would be fine in gentpp
[12:05] <Clankerus> does irc work on linux?
[12:05] <Qantourisc> but this is not getnoo :D
[12:05] <MachineScrew> any one know what I can do to enable hibernation ?
[12:05] <xukun> peaple are saying that will work beter than skype
[12:06] <xukun> ..for linux
[12:06] <mad> Clankerus, yes, xchat
[12:06] <deFrysk> Clankerus, irc rules in linux
[12:06] <haxel> ll
[12:06] <Penguin> irssi rules ^^
[12:06] <bas_> Could anyone tell me the ubuntu release life cycle? (end of updates/end of support/end of life) or point me to where I can read about it?
[12:06] <Qantourisc> irc is more linux then it is windows imo
[12:06] <deFrysk> Clankerus, its by default installed
[12:06] <mad> inm openoffice presentation: add -> object -> audio is not clickable, why? i need sound in my presentation. anyone?
[12:07] <skrangle> bas_ all that and much more on ubuntu.com
[12:07] <MachineScrew> any one
[12:07] <MachineScrew> i am in breezy
[12:07] <haxel>
[12:07] <deFrysk> Clankerus, after install xchat will be in the menu>internet>irc-chat
[12:07] <bas_> skrangle, I was that far, but cant find it on the site
[12:07] <MachineScrew> or even suspend
[12:07] <bzimage> haxel, omg
[12:07] <haxel> :(
[12:08] <haxel> help?
[12:08] <deFrysk> haxel, just ask
[12:08] <bzimage> !tell haxel about ask
[12:08] <deFrysk> !botsnack
[12:08] <ubotu> :)
[12:08] <bzimage> :P
[12:08] <haxel> seems i'm using utf-8m, how do i change it into L1?
[12:08] <lorenzod> speaking of , does anybody else have problems with Gtk apps freezing when SCIM is enabled?
[12:09] <Kuolio> MachineScrew: I've heard some rumours, that with kernel boot option "noapi" or "noapic" the suspend function would work, but dont know for sure
[12:09] <dhonn> does breezy have a clipboard manager
[12:09] <bzimage> dhonn, yes
[12:09] <bzimage> (in kde at least.. hehe klipper)
[12:09] <Kuolio> MachineScrew: laptopsupport is getting better quite fast these days, but im afraid that suspend functions are still shaky at best
[12:10] <Clankerus> is it a dvd iso?
[12:10] <bzimage> Clankerus, is what a dvd iso?
[12:10] <deFrysk> Clankerus, the iso file ? its a cd iso
[12:10] <dhonn> how do i use it? cp and paste doesnt work
[12:10] <dhonn> when i close the app that i cped text from
[12:10] <bzimage> dhonn, i only use kde
[12:11] <Clankerus> the download file says ubuntu-5.04-dvd-i386.iso
[12:11] <dhonn> ok
[12:11] <dhonn> thanks
[12:11] <deFrysk> Clankerus, get the cd iso file
[12:11] <Clankerus> ok.. is there differences?
[12:11] <Clankerus> can u link me to the right one please ^_^
[12:12] <deFrysk> well the dvd one is probably a larger donwload
[12:12] <deFrysk> Clankerus, breezy or hoary ?
[12:12] <Clankerus> hoary
[12:12] <deFrysk> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ Clankerus
[12:12] <Clankerus> thx =)
[12:13] <bzimage> (d'oh)
[12:13] <bzimage> :P
[12:13] <joel_> hi
[12:13] <haxel> seems i'm using utf-8, how do i change it into L1?
[12:13] <bzimage> first lesson: downloads are allways listed on the projects site...
[12:13] <bzimage> -l
[12:13] <MachineScrew> Kuolio : I still wana try it
[12:13] <bzimage> hi
[12:14] <MachineScrew> it has worked before on my laptop with other distros
[12:14] <hettar> Is there a gnome app like the kde digikam one for managing photos ?
[12:14] <gerarcone> hello, i have a problem with pdfs. i can see these file well with evince, but when i try to print them some characters become very strange
[12:14] <deFrysk> hettar, gphoto
[12:14] <bzimage> gtkcam or somehting
[12:14] <Skid> gkam or somthing?
[12:14] <Skid> lemem check my log hettar too
[12:14] <Skid> gtkam apparantly
[12:14] <Clankerus> what do I do with all the files here .... copy them to my hd?
[12:15] <bzimage> Clankerus, you need to burn the contents of the iso you downloaded to cd
[12:15] <MachineScrew> any one know what I can do to enable hibernation ?
[12:15] <MachineScrew> i am in breezy
[12:15] <bzimage> (burn image option)
[12:15] <deFrysk> Clankerus, where do you live ? I'll hold your hand for a bit ;)
[12:15] <Clankerus> sweden
[12:16] <Clankerus> ah I took the norwegian server and its different from the others
[12:16] <hettar> gphotocoll perhaps ?
[12:16] <deFrysk> Clankerus, x86 pc ?
[12:16] <Clankerus> now i took the german one
[12:16] <Clankerus> whats that?
[12:16] <lorenzod> Clankerus: everything Norwegian is different..
[12:16] <lorenzod> ;-)
[12:16] <deFrysk> windows pc Clankerus ?
[12:16] <Clankerus> lol
[12:16] <Clankerus> im planning to install it on my windows 2k laptop
[12:16] <deFrysk> Clankerus, http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[12:17] <deFrysk> have fun ;)
[12:17] <Clankerus> 400 mhz.. quite old..
[12:17] <Clankerus> okey
[12:17] <bzimage> Clankerus, if you want to preserve you win2k install.. you need to be carefull with the partitioning part!
[12:17] <deFrysk> Clankerus, you can let go of my hand now ;p
[12:17] <bzimage> deFrysk, lol
[12:17] <Clankerus> allright =P
[12:18] <mad> inm openoffice presentation: add -> object -> audio is not clickable, why? i need sound in my presentation. anyone?
[12:18] <Clankerus> I dont really care about my win 2k install its brought me so much trouble so far
[12:18] <deFrysk> Clankerus, wipe the lot :D
[12:18] <bzimage> Clankerus, ok.. :P
[12:18] <Kream> hi all
[12:19] <mad> lo
[12:19] <Wipe-Out> hey all
[12:19] <Kream> are these correct sources to enable universe on my machine: ?
[12:19] <Kream> deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[12:19] <Kream> deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[12:19] <Kream>  ?
[12:19] <Kream> and if they are, how do I get nvu from them?
[12:19] <Wipe-Out> are you using hoary?
[12:19] <deFrysk> Kream, in topic is a link to the upgradenotes
[12:20] <Kream> oops
[12:20] <Wipe-Out> lol
[12:20] <bzimage> !tell Kream about breezy
[12:20] <Kream> :)
[12:20] <Kream> thanks
[12:20] <Clankerus> defrysk, there is appearently two files... each at about 600 mb and iso files
[12:21] <bzimage> Clankerus, ?
[12:21] <zever> lol
[12:22] <deFrysk> Clankerus, http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso is a download link
[12:22] <deFrysk> Clankerus, so download it
[12:23] <zever> Wipe-Out, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[12:23] <bzimage> lol
[12:23] <bzimage> :P
[12:25] <skys> i install wine  and i got this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[12:25] <skys> See `config.log' for more details.
[12:25] <skys> " help plz....
[12:25] <Wipe-Out> zever, I know that part but it can;t be found
[12:26] <zever> !info gcc-3.4
[12:26] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-9ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 465 kB, Installed size: 4404 kB
[12:26] <gnuLame> u dn't have GCC or it has been installed in wrong directory
[12:26] <gnuLame> we r now on gcc 4.0.1 why u trying 3.4 ?
[12:26] <skys> i installed gcc using synaptic
[12:27] <Wipe-Out> i know but i need it to compile ndiswrapper 1.3
[12:27] <Wipe-Out> and gcc-3.4 is not on my system, i can download the tar.gz files to do it manualy but that is doing my head in
[12:27] <gnuLame> :p
[12:28] <nalioth> Wipe-Out: install it via synaptic
[12:28] <vikash> hi
[12:28] <Wipe-Out> tryed it via synaptic but it's not in the list
[12:28] <vikash> i have fat32 drive mounted but it's read only
[12:29] <vikash> i am using ubuntu 5.10
[12:29] <Wipe-Out> got the same issue
[12:29] <vikash> how can i change it's permissions
[12:29] <Wipe-Out> but first i need to get gcc-3.4 to work
[12:29] <Skid> hmph, it seems my application sounds ahve gone
[12:29] <vikash> plz help anybody
[12:29] <Skid> fecksake
[12:29] <JustinHH> i try to install mozilla web browser. the package is called <<mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7.12-installer.tar.gz>>. shoul i foind an other package or smth? i cant install it? can anybody help me pls?
[12:29] <bzimage> vikash, use in fstab umask=000 to let every user have write access
[12:29] <Wipe-Out> vikash: well i think you can do that as root only
[12:29] <bzimage> (system user)
[12:30] <vikash> ok
[12:30] <bzimage> fat32 has no right management like NTFS has
[12:30] <vikash> is driver available to read file system ntfs for ubuntu 5.10
[12:31] <Wipe-Out> nope
[12:31] <bzimage> yes there is
[12:31] <Wipe-Out> sorry wrong cghat :P
[12:31] <vikash> plz tell me
[12:31] <pc22> how do i install an application
[12:31] <bimberi> ubotu tell vikash about ntfs
[12:31] <zever> !tell vikash about ntfs
[12:32] <zever> hmmm
[12:32] <JustinHH> vikash, :  but for 5.40
[12:32] <vikash> i mounted ntfs in red hat 9
[12:32] <vikash> but didn't get driver for ubuntu 5.10
[12:32] <JustinHH> !tell JustinHH about ntfs
[12:32] <bzimage> use as type ntfs
[12:33] <Blizzkid> lo all, I have a bit of a strange problem regarding WIFI. I openend network settings, entered the ESSID and the WEP-key, and pressed "activate" after a while it says ath0 is active, but I only get some IPV6-address, and my wifi-card tells me there's no link
[12:33] <bzimage> vikash, DO NOT write to this mounted ntfs system... it can damage the contents on it..
[12:33] <bzimage> (if not more)
[12:33] <vikash> no i want to write on fat32
[12:33] <skys> i install wine  and i got this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, help plz.
[12:34] <vikash> what should be the value of umask in fstab
[12:34] <vikash> and want to read only ntfs
[12:34] <bzimage> vikash, to be clear.. you want to use a fat32 drive and a ntfs drive?
[12:35] <vikash> ya
[12:35] <bzimage> ok...
[12:35] <vikash> want write on fat
[12:35] <vikash> but only read ntfs
[12:35] <bzimage> for fat32: /dev/<fatdrive>      /<mountpoint>       vfat    user,umask=000          0       0
[12:35] <bzimage> *basic entry*
[12:36] <vikash> in place of defaults  i should write
[12:36] <vikash> vikash,umask=000
[12:36] <vikash> is it right
[12:36] <bzimage> no.. use "user"
[12:37] <vikash> ok
[12:37] <vikash> user not the name of user
[12:37] <linux_newbie> Hi there people
[12:37] <linux_newbie> I need help
[12:37] <linux_newbie> I'm running Ubuntu on a LG Ls50a notebook
[12:38] <linux_newbie> Want to install some new .rpm software, but dont know how?
[12:38] <bzimage> for ntfs: /dev/<ntfsdrive>      /<mountpoint>       ntfs    user,umask=022          0       0
[12:38] <linux_newbie> it says that I have to use alien
[12:38] <linux_newbie> alien?
[12:38] <bzimage> linukso, alien is a conversion tool..
[12:38] <zever> linux_newbie, alien creates .deb files out of .rpm's
[12:39] <bimberi> linux_newbie: what's the software?
[12:39] <linux_newbie> in the synaptics package manager I installed alien, but i dont know where to find it or how to run/use it?
[12:40] <linux_newbie> the software i want to install is realplayer for linux, winamp for linux and LimeWire p2p for linux
[12:40] <zever> linux_newbie, realplayer is in the repos
[12:40] <linux_newbie> realplayer is a .bin file (also dont know how to install that
[12:40] <linux_newbie> the others are .rpm
[12:40] <zever> linux_newbie, WINamp?, use xmms (it's a winamp2 clone)
[12:40] <deFrysk> !tell linux_newbie about realplayer
[12:41] <bzimage> linux_newbie, i advise you to NOT use winamp for linux.. it OLD
[12:41] <deFrysk> linux_newbie, read ubotu's message about real player
[12:41] <linux_newbie> and what about LimeWire?  I want to know how to install a .rpm file... isnt there some documents somewhere telling me how?
[12:41] <zever> linux_newbie, in terminal, alien foo.rpm
[12:42] <deFrysk> linux_newbie, forget everything you learn afa windows is concerned
[12:42] <bzimage> linux_newbie, in terminal: man alien
[12:42] <deFrysk> linux_newbie, windows ways dont apply in linux
[12:42] <bimberi> limewire
[12:42] <bimberi> bah - sorry
[12:42] <bzimage> deFrysk, for 80%
[12:42] <Blizzkid> lo all, I have a bit of a strange problem regarding WIFI. I openend network settings, entered the ESSID and the WEP-key, and pressed "activate" after a while it says ath0 is active, but I only get some IPV6-address, and my wifi-card tells me there's no link
[12:42] <bzimage> (approx.)
[12:43] <deFrysk> also a .deb created by alien often does not work linux_newbie
[12:43] <bzimage> alien creates an alien piece of garbage
[12:43] <no_dammagE> a small question: do i have to pay the shipping costs if I order CDs from ubuntu.com or are those costs overtaken by shipit, too?
[12:44] <linux_newbie> ok now that i have alien open ' Manual page alien(1p) line 1
[12:44] <linux_newbie> ' wtf do i do? lol
[12:44] <zever> linux_newbie, read
[12:44] <bzimage> lol
[12:44] <skys> i install wine  and i got this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, help plz.
[12:44] <bzimage> (d.oh)
[12:44] <deFrysk> linux_newbie, now you have to learn not to use it ;p
[12:44] <ccooke-work> Hmm.
[12:44] <deFrysk> linux_newbie, read this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation its your ubuntu-bible
[12:45] <zever> deFrysk, alien worked for the .rpm drivers of my printer
[12:45] <ccooke-work> Are there known problems with connecting to windows shares on breezy?
[12:45] <deFrysk> zever, it wont work on real-player
[12:45] <bzimage> zever, sometimes it's output actually works..
[12:45] <deFrysk> zever, also wont work on java
[12:45] <zever> mmmm
[12:45] <zever> probably
[12:45] <deFrysk> for newbies alien is useless
[12:46] <bzimage> i had several conversions doing nothing but annoy me, because they just wont install
[12:46] <bzimage> so.. alien is for alien debian user
[12:46] <bzimage> :P
[12:46] <no_dammagE> anyone? Do I have to pay shipping costs if I request CDs from ubuntu.com?
[12:46] <bzimage> +s
[12:46] <zever> :p
[12:46] <bimberi> no_dammagE: no - no cost to you whatsoever
[12:47] <no_dammagE> bimberi, thanks
[12:47] <deFrysk> no_dammagE, free and you can get a box full if you like
[12:47] <bzimage> no_dammagE, ehm.. well.. pay me 100 dollar.. and you get the cd's
[12:47] <bzimage> :P
[12:47] <bimberi> bzimage: :)
[12:47] <ashwani> hi all
[12:47] <ashwani> is there anybody ever used LDAP with SAMBA
[12:47] <ashwani> astro76, hi
[12:48] <bzimage> ashwani, sure there must be someone on this planet who used that combination
[12:48] <bzimage> :)
[12:48] <ashwani> astro76, do you know how to configure SAMBA and LDAP to work with each other
[12:48] <ashwani> astro76, i don't think so, I could not find any documentation which could tell me to do this
[12:49] <bzimage> i don't see any astro76 lines
[12:49] <bzimage> hehe
[12:49] <gnix_oag> is lamp?
[12:49] <no_dammagE> bzimage, hehe, no, give me 100$ and I will take your CDs ;)
[12:49] <skys> i install wine  and i got this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, help plz.
[12:50] <bzimage> no_dammagE, lol
[12:50] <no_dammagE> you have to pay me to make me to get your stuff ^^
[12:50] <bzimage> !lamp
[12:50] <ubotu> lamp is, like, totally, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Hoary is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:51] <bzimage> there you go gnix_oag
[12:51] <bzimage> :)
[12:51] <gnix_oag> skys: install c++
[12:51] <michel_> i install ltsp with ubuntu breezy, now i have login but i cannot log me
[12:51] <HermenL> LAMP ids more like Linux-Apache-MySQL-Perl/PHP/Python !!!
[12:51] <bzimage> HermenL, no... it's not
[12:52] <bzimage> HermenL, (officially)
[12:52] <smott> mysql and php are terrible things
[12:52] <sobersabre> lorenzod, so how was the upgrade ?
[12:52] <smott> terrible, terrible things.
[12:52] <bzimage> smott, why?
[12:52] <smott> it would take a book to explain if you can't figure it out (:
[12:52] <bimberi> go postresql and zope!
[12:52] <bzimage> smott, summarize
[12:53] <lorenzod> sobreabre: very  good. feels faster now..
[12:53] <lorenzod> sobreabre == sobersabre.
[12:53] <bimberi> sob<tab> == sobersabre :)
[12:54] <smott> bzimage: they both suck and better things are available
[12:54] <bionicbi> hello
[12:54] <gnix_oag> hello
[12:54] <bzimage> smott, that's a personal opinion
[12:54] <deFrysk> hello
[12:54] <bzimage> hello
[12:54] <zever> hello
[12:54] <bionicbi> ANYOPNE IN SOUTHERN LEYTE
[12:55] <HermenL> bzimage: Sorry, LAMP, 1998,  Michael Kunze in C'T (Germany): " the Linux operating system; the Apache Web server; the MySQL relational database management system; and the Perl, Python, and/or PHP scripting languages "
[12:55] <zever> bionicbi, not so loud
[12:55] <bionicbi> sorry
[12:55] <michel_> install ltsp with ubuntu breezy: login display but i cannot log me any idea?
[12:55] <bionicbi> sorry
[12:55] <zever> ok
[12:55] <bzimage> HermenL, so.. ?
[12:55] <bzimage> :P
[12:55] <bionicbi> zever: are you in the phils?
[12:55] <smott> bzimage: uhm, okay. :rolleyes:
[12:55] <zever> bionicbi, no
[12:56] <bionicbi> oic
[12:56] <bionicbi> wehre you at?
[12:56] <zever> leuven, belgium
[12:56] <bzimage> smott, just ranting with " it sucks" doesn't say sh*t
[12:56] <bionicbi> where you at??
[12:56] <bzimage> :)
[12:56] <HermenL> First occurrence of 'LAMP' acro
[12:57] <gnix_oag> hehe
[12:57] <smott> bzimage: well, that's about as much summary as i can give
[12:57] <gnix_oag> china
[12:57] <eddie> anyone have the server addresses for restricted in Breezy for mp3 playback?
[12:57] <HermenL> Well smott, that's not much....
[12:57] <haxel> _I_ solved my utf-8 problem by running dpkg-reconfigure locales. Thanks for nothing.
[12:57] <bzimage> gnix_oag, china railway center?
[12:57] <ashwani> athlon, hi
[12:57] <bzimage> :P
[12:58] <ompaul> smott, what exactly can't you do with those two? [I know zope does not scale in a huge way but other than that]
[12:58] <gnix_oag> what?
[12:58] <bzimage> gnix_oag, your provider
[12:58] <bzimage> (internet)
[12:59] <bzimage> china railway center? Xicheng District, Beijing
[12:59] <bionicbi> hello
[12:59] <gnix_oag> HuNan
[12:59] <ashwani> please tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users
[12:59] <Cryptid> How do i open .Rar Format Files
[12:59] <ashwani> please tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users
[12:59] <ashwani> please tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users
[12:59] <ashwani> please tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users
[12:59] <ashwani> please tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users
[12:59] <ashwani> please tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users
[12:59] <ashwani> please tell me any one how to configure LDAP to authenticate SAMBA users
[01:00] <Cryptid> ashwani dont flood the channel
[01:00] <ashwani> bzimage, hi
[01:00] <ashwani> Cryptid, K
[01:00] <HermenL> See samba.org and RTFM
[01:00] <ashwani> bzimage, do you know this
[01:01] <bzimage> not from heart
[01:01] <ashwani> HermenL,i have seen that but did not find any particular docs.
[01:01] <sskk> When I run in the System Monitor-tool it says that I use 100% all the time. In 'top' I see that the the % of the CPU power, that 'should' be under id (idle) is under 'wa'. What does it mean?, is it a problem?
[01:01] <Cryptid> How do i open .Rar Format Files
[01:01] <bzimage> Cryptid, use rar
[01:01] <bzimage> :P
[01:01] <skys> i install wine  and i got this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, help plz.
[01:02] <Cryptid> bzimage, where do i get it from
[01:02] <bzimage> repos
[01:02] <deFrysk> skys, did you use synaptic to install wine ?
[01:02] <HermenL> And : http://www.ofb.net/~jheiss/samba/ldap.shtml
[01:02] <bzimage> Cryptid, to be precise: unrar-free and unrar-nonfree are in the repos
[01:03] <deFrysk> skys, or apt-get ?
[01:03] <skys> yes
[01:03] <HermenL> How do we pay for unrar-nonfree then?
[01:03] <skys> but i got other error.
[01:03] <deFrysk> skys, from an ubuntu repository ?
[01:03] <bzimage> !tell Cryptid about repos
[01:03] <skys> yes thats right
[01:03] <deFrysk> skys, where is the compile about then ?
[01:04] <JustinHH> how can i run an installer?
[01:04] <skys> ok , i installed using apt/synaptic but theres an error when using wine, so i download the latest ver of wine
[01:04] <bzimage> JustinHH, what installer
[01:04] <bzimage> ?
[01:04] <ompaul> JustinHH, for what?
[01:04] <deFrysk> skys, ah
[01:04] <JustinHH> firefox
[01:04] <skys> and theres a compilation error, any idea.
[01:05] <bzimage> JustinHH, filename?
[01:05] <deFrysk> skys, nope
[01:05] <skys> maybe gcc path?
[01:05] <ompaul> JustinHH, sudo apt-get install firefox
[01:05] <skys> or some  file to edit?
[01:05] <JustinHH> thx
[01:05] <JustinHH> doaes this install firefox on my system?
[01:05] <JustinHH> does this install firefox on my system?
[01:05] <bzimage> skys, the wine wich comes with the repos is binary
[01:05] <ompaul> JustinHH, yes
[01:05] <deFrysk> skys, just use the packages provided by the repos
[01:05] <bzimage> so no need to compile
[01:05] <JustinHH> ok
[01:06] <skys> yes but theres an error when running wine. something like: cant find c:\ i think....
[01:06] <bzimage> did you just run wine solo?
[01:06] <skys> and besides ap-get the the older ver not the latest ver.
[01:06] <bzimage> without anything after it
[01:06] <JustinHH> this apears when i try to install firefox via apt-getE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:06] <JustinHH> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:07] <ompaul> skys, what exactly can you not do with the version offered?
[01:07] <skys> ok. i hv another idea. how to force apt-get to get the latest version from wine?
[01:07] <deFrysk> JustinHH, use sudo and shut down synaptic
[01:07] <ompaul> JustinHH, sudo apt-get update
[01:07] <bzimage> JustinHH, close synaptic
[01:07] <klepas> I'm wondering
[01:07] <klepas>  I'm trying to synchronise my user accounts over several distros (namely Suse and Ubuntu beta)
[01:07] <skys> ompaul=bugs n fixes...
[01:07] <klepas> Usernames and passwords already the same
[01:08] <klepas> but the UIDs are not the same...
[01:08] <klepas> how do i edit the UIDs
[01:08] <JustinHH> E: Couldn't find package firefox
[01:08] <JustinHH> :((
[01:08] <bzimage> mozilla-firefox
[01:09] <Qantourisc> okiedokie i have an i915gm
[01:09] <Qantourisc> there is a known issue with this
[01:09] <Qantourisc> what ?
[01:09] <bzimage> JustinHH, ehm.. firefox is installed by default afaik
[01:09] <Qantourisc> xfce4 is not in ubuntu database ? :(
[01:09] <bzimage> Qantourisc, it is..
[01:09] <skys> how to force apt-get to get the latest version from wine?
[01:10] <ompaul> skys, the packages have maintainers, these people keep your distribution managable, if you want to go playing with the latest version of something you have to solve all the problems that throws up by yourself, so do it if you have the time, or accept the thousands of hours that went into creating the distro you use
[01:10] <ompaul> skys, btw they also fix stuff
[01:10] <Qantourisc> then whay doesn't the search xfce4 turn up any results ?
[01:10] <Qantourisc> rong tree ?
[01:10] <skys> ompaul = ok
[01:10] <bzimage> !tell Qantourisc about repos
[01:10] <bzimage> need to add extra repos
[01:10] <deFrysk> ompaul, well put :)
[01:10] <bzimage> :)
[01:10] <skys> ompaul = ill stick with your idea.
[01:11] <ompaul> deFrysk, we really need a !latest type of thing - but I can't get it to cover all the bases I want - thats the closest yet
[01:12] <skys> well, i installed using packages but it has an error(launching wine only) , thats why i try new ver (also error compiling only)
[01:12] <JustinHH> bzimage, : yes. i forgot. but i have got one problem. i wanna listen to a webradio on www.energy.de. and there apears that i don't have a plugin. i try to find it with plugin finder but this can't find the plugin. the site redirects me to the site of microsoft
[01:12] <deFrysk> skys, read the docs on the wine main page
[01:12] <deFrysk> skys, keeps you out of trouble for a week or so ;)
[01:12] <skys> i will install again the wine packages...  ill be back  to report...
[01:13] <skys> deFrysk =yes sir!
[01:14] <ompaul> !tell JustinHH about codecs
[01:14] <JustinHH> ompaul, :  yes but i don`t know what codec i should install
[01:15] <pitti> klepas: ok, what was the problem?
[01:15] <klepas> Alrighty
[01:15] <klepas>  I'm trying to synchronise my user accounts over several distros (namely Suse and Ubuntu beta)
[01:15] <klepas> not copy across data
[01:16] <pitti> klepas: yep, I read it above
[01:16] <klepas> just be able to acces the accounts
[01:16] <ompaul> JustinHH, well lets look at it this way, if you install loads of them you will have more aviable to you and less questions to ask later :) {w32codecs would be a good place to start looking given that it told you to look at MS}
[01:16] <pitti> klepas: the short story is, there is no easy way to edit an uid in a running system
[01:16] <klepas> And the little ui tool to edit users/add them won't allow me to edit the UID from 1000 to 1002
[01:16] <klepas> ack
[01:16] <pitti> klepas: that's because it is virtually impossible online
[01:16] <klepas> do it from the Suse distro
[01:17] <klepas> would that work?
[01:17] <pitti> klepas: what you can do, is to mount your Ubuntu partition from SuSE
[01:17] <klepas> yep
[01:17] <pitti> klepas: then edit the user ids in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[01:17] <pitti> klepas: and then chown -R all user homes
[01:17] <klepas> yep
[01:18] <pitti> klepas: but basically you should try to avoid this situation altogether
[01:18] <klepas> Yea.
[01:18] <pitti> klepas: use a common /home partition and just sync /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow
[01:18] <Qantourisc> how does the ubunutu kernel work ? does it use genkernel ?
[01:19] <klepas> Annoying thing is when i install Ubuntu I cannot regulate the assigned UID for the first user
[01:19] <klepas> nor any shared folders on a server
[01:19] <skys> i installed the wine using pkg but heres the error when running wine: creating configuration directory '/home/skys/.wine'...
[01:19] <skys> err:module:load_builtin_dll failed to load .so lib for builtin L"gdi32.dll": libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:19] <skys> err:module:import_dll Loading library gdi32.dll (which is needed by L"c:\\windows\\system\\user32.dll") failed (error c000007a).
[01:19] <skys> err:module:import_dll Library user32.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\rundll32.exe") not found
[01:19] <skys> err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\windows\\rundll32.exe" failed, status c0000135
[01:19] <skys> wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/skys/.wine'.
[01:19] <klepas> chown -R on all the home dirs
[01:19] <bimberi> skys: please don't flood
[01:19] <deFrysk> skys, you are flooding you might get a temp ban for that
[01:20] <HaNazir> hey guys. i want to disable xserver for my kids. so that when i'm not arround they dont go to certain places. how do i do that?
[01:20] <klepas> what's the command for that exactly?
[01:20] <klepas> # chown -R /home
[01:20] <klepas> I think...
[01:20] <deFrysk> skys, probs with running apps on wine are discussed in #wine
[01:20] <HaNazir> so that all users have X, but my kids only have console. they're young, so they only want to chat with centericq
[01:20] <deFrysk> skys, better try there
[01:22] <michel_> install ltsp with ubuntu breezy: login display but i cannot log me any idea?
[01:22] <klepas> Thank you pitti
[01:22] <skys> ok, thnx anyway.....
[01:23] <pitti> klepas: for fixing user "joe", it would be "sudo chown -R joe:joe /home/joe"
[01:23] <pitti> bah
[01:23] <pitti> too late
[01:25] <warty> HI YOU
[01:25] <warty> how do u do
[01:26] <aftertaf> bot attacks again....
[01:27] <Pickle_Weasel> is there a plugin for firefox that will let me view movies on a page without downloading them?
[01:27] <aftertaf> to view, you must dwnload... unless they stream (which is sort of d/l ing anyway)
[01:27] <Pickle_Weasel> that's what i mean though, i want to stream
[01:27] <bzimage> Pickle_Weasel, mozilla-mplayer
[01:27] <Pickle_Weasel> ty bzimage ^.^
[01:28] <bzimage> Pickle_Weasel, you maybe need extra codecs to..
[01:28] <Wipe-Out> and i'm back
[01:28] <bzimage> !tell Pickle_Weasel about codecs
[01:28] <Pickle_Weasel> i have the codecs, i just need the plugin
[01:28] <bzimage> ok
[01:29] <smott> is there some way to decrease the cpu speed of my centrino laptop? :(
[01:29] <ompaul> smott, why
[01:30] <smott> ompaul: it keeps overheating and then cooling every 10 minutes. it can't be good for the hardware
[01:30] <smott> it goes from 40C to 58C, then it turns on the fan and goes back to 45C and so on
[01:31] <ompaul> smott, are you leaving room underneath it for air to flow around the vents?
[01:31] <Qantourisc> how are the kernel soruces called ?
[01:31] <ompaul> smott, they run hot in 99% oc cases
[01:31] <ompaul> s/oc/of
[01:31] <kemik> smott:  edit bios and let the cpu-fan be more aggressive
[01:31] <Qantourisc> aa found them =S
[01:32] <kemik> Qantourisc:  linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:32] <bimberi> Qantourisc: linux-source-2.6.10 (for hoary)
[01:32] <kemik> bimberi:  $(uname -r) is better
[01:33] <Qantourisc> hmmm in wich repesory are tehy ?
[01:33] <bimberi> kemik: yes, but there's no -386 on the end of the package name (for example)
[01:33] <Qantourisc> i onyl have a 2.4 in my pacakge manager
[01:34] <bimberi> kemik: for linux-source packages that is, you're absolutely right about the headers
[01:34] <kemik> bimberi:  have you been smoking crack?
[01:34] <kemik> indeed i am ;)
[01:34] <bimberi> as am i
[01:34] <adl> Qantourisc, seems you have set the wrong distributions for the repositories - check: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[01:34] <aftertaf> !crack
[01:34] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[01:34] <aftertaf> looool
[01:35] <kemik> bimberi:  yes you are , for linux.source.. but i dont think that's what he needs
[01:35] <aftertaf> bob2:  can you set antibot mode????
[01:35] <kemik> aftertaf:  spambots+
[01:35] <kemik> ?
[01:35] <bimberi> 21:31 <Qantourisc> how are the kernel soruces called ?
[01:35] <aftertaf> spambots+?
[01:36] <kemik> nvm
[01:36] <kemik> im off to ce gym
[01:37] <JustinHH> on: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list re:(gedit:16050): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:37] <JustinHH>  / Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:37] <boxerboy29> has anyone else been getting errors when they star gnome?
[01:37] <Pickle_Weasel> this is rather angering me, i seem to have all repositories added, yet i can't find mplayer on my list...it just doesn't exist
[01:37] <boxerboy29> start*
[01:37] <smott> kemik: it doesn't seem to have such an option
[01:37] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  apt-get update
[01:38] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  and if it's not there, you dont have the correct repositories, or filelisting of them failed
[01:38] <kemik> i would guess universe is what you need
[01:38] <Pickle_Weasel> hmm, well i followed the adding repos how-to page, and my repository list says this paticular one that i need is enabled
[01:38] <Pickle_Weasel> multiverse
[01:38] <[zeno] > 'morning
[01:38] <RMeist> hi
[01:39] <bimberi> Pickle_Weasel: the packages have names such as mplayer-586
[01:39] <Blizzkid> lo all. I can't get my wifi working: open infrastructure. iwconfig gives link quality, signal level and noise level, but i don't get an IP, and my card indicates there's no connection. Help plz.
[01:39] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  apt-cache search <keyword>
[01:39] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  or better yet, use synaptic
[01:39] <Pickle_Weasel> bimberi, i know this, and it's not on the list =\
[01:39] <[zeno] > Blizzkid: have you assigned a IP to the eth card?
[01:39] <bimberi> Pickle_Weasel: ah, k
[01:39] <Pickle_Weasel> which is why i'm stumpted, i'm not the average noob >.>
[01:39] <bzimage> Pickle_Weasel, sudo apt-get update
[01:39] <Blizzkid> [zeno] : nopes. dhcp
[01:40] <Pickle_Weasel> did that also
[01:40] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  then you've not added the correct repos
[01:40] <[zeno] > Blizzkid: is your card configured to receive an IP from dhcp server?
[01:40] <bzimage> Pickle_Weasel, it's there.. i've installed it from it
[01:40] <deFrysk> Pickle_Weasel, try mplayer-386
[01:40] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  it's in universe/multiverse i think
[01:40] <Pickle_Weasel> you see, i thought that too, but i double checked, even removed and re-added by copy pasting
[01:40] <Blizzkid> indeed [zeno] : at least, as far as I know
[01:40] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  paste your sources.list on pastebin
[01:41] <Pickle_Weasel> ?
[01:41] <kemik> !pastebin
[01:41] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:41] <boxerboy29> noone else is getting the 3 refresh errors when they start gnome :(
[01:41] <Skid> erm like to cut a long story short, I've fecked my /lib/lsb/init-functions file, i know how to fix, but icnt boot back into ubuntu, i boot up (even with recovery) and it says give root p/w for maintentnce, do that, and the partiion /dev/hda3 is mounted as rw on /, but i an't write to any files
[01:41] <Skid> anyway i can get to write to the file to fix it?
[01:41] <[zeno] > Blizzkid: verify your /etc/network/interfaces file
[01:41] <Skid> as i really dont want to format, just got everything nice :)
[01:41] <Pickle_Weasel> i see, and where is sources.list located?
[01:41] <kemik> Skid:  get a livecd and mount the partiton and edit your files
[01:41] <Blizzkid> [zeno] : iface ath0 inet dhcp
[01:41] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:42] <Pickle_Weasel> ty
[01:42] <Skid> is there any other way, as I dont have a seperate cd writer :P
[01:42] <[zeno] > Blizzkid: so it's ok
[01:42] <kemik> Skid:  im sure there are.. but to me that'd be the simplest way.. just goto some internetcafe/friend/relative wahtever and burn one ;)
[01:42] <bzimage> Skid, you know the root pass?
[01:42] <Skid> bzimage: yes.
[01:42] <Skid> kemik: ya, i jsut wonderd if i could do it another way :P
[01:43] <Blizzkid> [zeno] : yes, but for some reason, it seems there's no connection with the ap
[01:43] <Skid> i missed a right bracket (] ) grr
[01:43] <Skid> and its fecked everything :P
[01:43] <Skid> *slap*
[01:43] <Pickle_Weasel> kemik, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2611
[01:43] <kemik> Skid:  take the HD and put in another linux comp. mount it and add your changes
[01:43] <Skid> its a laptop heh
[01:43] <[zeno] > Blizzkid: of course! :)
[01:43] <kemik> oh ym
[01:43] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  that sources.list is NO GOOD
[01:43] <[zeno] > Blizzkid: thinking about a solution
[01:43] <pinoyskull> is there a way to play videos without buffering it first in xine?
[01:43] <kemik> !repositories
[01:43] <ubotu> repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy))
[01:43] <Pickle_Weasel> =o
[01:44] <Pickle_Weasel> i followed that step by step..
[01:44] <Pickle_Weasel> =\
[01:44] <Blizzkid> [zeno] : hope that doesn't hurt too much ;-)
[01:44] <dade`> how to install eclipse on breezy ? what repository should i use ?
[01:44] <bzimage> Pickle_Weasel, deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted need added: universe and multiverse
[01:44] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  well you dont want to mix hoary/warty repositories
[01:44] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  and you dont want the old backports eiterh
[01:44] <pinoyskull> is there a way to play videos without buffering it first in xine? anybody knows?
[01:45] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969  <.. use that one and apt-update
[01:45] <Pickle_Weasel> i see
[01:45] <Pickle_Weasel> ok
[01:45] <Pickle_Weasel> ^.^
[01:45] <brenner_> pinoyskull: you mean streams?
[01:45] <pinoyskull> ya
[01:45] <pinoyskull> well
[01:45] <Pickle_Weasel> can i just gedit mine to a copy of that one?
[01:45] <pinoyskull> not for streams, but videos accross the lan
[01:45] <hutgyrr> i trying to archive stuff here and first it seems to put all the files into the archive, then splits it into two files then recompresses, then decompress. Whats goin on?
[01:45] <bzimage> vlc
[01:45] <Jack_B> hey guys does xmms play wma's by default? or do i have to get codecs
[01:46] <bzimage> videolan
[01:46] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  yeah... but yo need to edit with sudo
[01:46] <dajomu>  I am wondering why my SystemRescueCd is stopping with the bootup message * Starting USB and PCI hotplugging
[01:46] <pinoyskull> how bout xine
[01:46] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:46] <brenner_> pinoyskull: nothing in prefs?
[01:46] <Pickle_Weasel> i know that kemik
[01:46] <Pickle_Weasel> =\
[01:46] <pinoyskull> what do u mean brenner
[01:46] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  just replace your sources.list with the one from pastebin that i pasted
[01:46] <bzimage> Jack_B, you need codecs
[01:46] <bzimage> afaik
[01:46] <brenner_> Jack_B: afaik, you _do_ need them
[01:47] <Pickle_Weasel> that is what i am going to do, thank you
[01:47] <bimberi> !info eclipse-platform breezy
[01:47] <Jack_B> ok
[01:47] <ubotu> eclipse-platform: (Eclipse platform without plug-ins to develop any language), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 3.1-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 22809 kB, Installed size: 64524 kB
[01:47] <brenner_> pinoyskull: tried looking in options?
[01:47] <Jack_B> as in w32codecs?
[01:47] <Jack_B> or is that for wmv's only?
[01:47] <bzimage> Jack_B, no it's for many formats..
[01:47] <Skid> omg lol
[01:47] <Skid> i just found an ubuntu livecd under my sofa
[01:47] <Skid> hows that for luck?
[01:47] <dade`> ecj-bootstrap-gcj - bootstrap version of the Eclipse Java compiler (native version)
[01:47] <dade`> eclipse-sdk - Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE
[01:47] <bzimage> but it's not in the repos anymore.. (legal restrictions)
[01:47] <pinoyskull> brenner_ ill try that again, cuz i already did look into it
[01:48] <Blizzkid> why is wlan still such a pain in the a** in linux?
[01:48] <Jack_B> bzimage, so which codecs should i get
[01:48] <brenner_> bzimage: gee i've been missing a while...since when?
[01:48] <bimberi> !info eclipse-sdk breezy
[01:48] <ubotu> eclipse-sdk: (Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 3.1-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 68 kB, Installed size: 256 kB
[01:48] <bimberi> dade`: you need the universe repository enabled
[01:48] <bzimage> brenner, since not so long ago
[01:48] <[zeno] > Blizzkid: my father is calling me to have the lunch.. if you can, try to configure your AP and eth with static IP and verify if the card goes well
[01:48] <Pickle_Weasel> kemik, that fixed everything, thank you ^.^
[01:49] <Blizzkid> [zeno] : i'll have a try
[01:49] <brenner_> bzimage: not surprising i guess....
[01:49] <Jack_B> YOU'VE BEEN THUNDERSTRUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:49] <Jack_B> OH YEH THUNDERSTRUCKED!!!!!
[01:49] <dade`>   eclipse-sdk: Depends: eclipse-jdt (= 3.1-0ubuntu7) but it is not installable
[01:49] <dade`>                Depends: eclipse-pde (= 3.1-0ubuntu7) but it is not installable
[01:49] <smott> my laptop has cpufreq_userspace, cpufreq_stats, cpufreq_ondemand, cpufreq_powersave, cpufreq_conservative modules loaded, but cpufreq_selector says that there's no cpufreq support ... ?
[01:49] <dade`> bimberi
[01:49] <dade`> see that..
[01:49] <Jack_B> \m/ rock on ac/dc
[01:51] <Jack_B> bzimage, i just installed w32codecs and so far xmms won't play any of my wmas
[01:51] <brenner_> is it ac/dc day or something?
[01:51] <Jack_B> brenner, sure is
[01:52] <brenner_> Jack_B: i'd think you'd need an xmms* package...
[01:52] <bimberi> dade`: hm, ok, from what i can tell they're in universe too
[01:52] <Jack_B> brenner: ok
[01:52] <bzimage> ac/dc isn't that powercircuit
[01:52] <bzimage> ?
[01:53] <bzimage> pom pom
[01:53] <Blizzkid> anyone else could help me on wifi?
[01:53] <Jack_B> bzimage: Blasphemy! its a band
[01:53] <dade`> bimberi: maybe because i'm on ppc ?
[01:53] <vikash> i have configured samba
[01:53] <vikash> my system is accessible on network by window machines
[01:53] <Lear> hello everybody
[01:53] <kemik> Pickle_Weasel:  youre welcome ;)
[01:53] <vikash> but  when i share other folder by shared folders it's not showing
[01:53] <bimberi> dade`: ah yes, probably :|
[01:54] <Jack_B> brenner: xmms package as in xmms-wma_1.0.4-2_i386.deb?
[01:54] <vikash> anybody help me
[01:54] <brenner_> Jack_B: no clue...is that in the repo?
[01:54] <Jack_B> brenner: nope got it off ubuntuguide.com
[01:54] <vikash> by simply
[01:54] <vikash> right click on folder and share is not working
[01:55] <vikash> help me plz
[01:55] <brenner_> Jack_B: use at your own risk i guess then...
[01:55] <bzimage> you mean ubuntuguide.org
[01:55] <vikash> hi bzimage
[01:55] <Jack_B> yep bzimage
[01:55] <bzimage> !ubuntuguide
[01:55] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[01:55] <brenner_> Blizzkid: searched the wiki?
[01:55] <Jack_B> awww
[01:55] <Jack_B> !faq
[01:55] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[01:55] <vikash> hello anybpdy
[01:56] <boxerboy29> someone needs to update ubotu its already in the menu
[01:56] <vikash> help lpz
[01:56] <Jack_B> what if you have hoary instead?
[01:56] <nxv_> are there any packages for tuskjuggler somewhere to download?
[01:56] <bzimage> hi vikash
[01:56] <vikash> my query is related to sharing
[01:56] <nalioth> vikash: quit whining. if someone knows the answer to your question, they'll answer. you arent gonna whine an answer out of anyone
[01:56] <Blizzkid> brenner_: yep, followed it step by step, but..... "If it doesn't and you get statements saying "Destination host unreachable" or "request timed out", then you've got a problem and you aren't connected. (somebody should write some instructions on what to do next)."  ---> exactly what I have now
[01:56] <vikash> hi
[01:56] <vikash> can u help me
[01:56] <brenner_> Jack_B: wiki and forums...
[01:56] <vikash> bzimage
[01:56] <bzimage> ehm.. maybe..
[01:56] <brenner_> ....and #ubuntu itself
[01:57] <Jack_B> brenner, roger that chief
[01:57] <vikash> how to share folders
[01:57] <vikash> so that they can be accesed on other machines on network
[01:57] <vikash> hello
[01:57] <vikash> got it?
[01:57] <bimberi> dade`: i've checked on packages.debian.org and both eclipse-pde and eclipse-jdt are for "all" not just "i386"
[01:57] <brenner_> Blizzkid: i usually see peoplelist hetir h/ware specs in here...that might help
[01:58] <Jack_B> holy crap my comp just lagged for the first time on ubuntu
[01:58] <brenner_> Blizzkid: also...search the forum while you wait
[01:58] <bzimage> vikash, i read that the windows boxes can see the linux box?
[01:58] <vikash> ok
[01:58] <bimberi> dade`: i wonder why the ubuntu ones are for i386 only, an error perhaps?
[01:58] <vikash> but only my home folder
[01:58] <vikash> is accessible
[01:58] <bzimage> sh*t i'm lagging like h*ll
[01:58] <Blizzkid> I get "Activating interface ath0" for a long time. After that it says "The interface ath0 is active", but I have no connection to the ap
[01:58] <bzimage> exit
[01:58] <vikash> but suppose i have to share other then
[01:58] <bzimage> brb
[01:59] <dade`> bimberi: how can we see if ubuntu one are 386 only ?
[01:59] <nalioth> vikash: it is a security issue to share other things than your homedirectory
[01:59] <bimberi> dade`: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:59] <vikash> ok but i want to share
[01:59] <dade`> cool
[01:59] <vikash> so that other people on my home network can access it
[02:00] <vikash> actually i want to share folder from my fat32 drive
[02:00] <dade`> .. i386
[02:00] <vikash> which i mounted
[02:00] <dade`> bimberi: so, this is not good. :(
[02:00] <vikash> nalioth where r u?
[02:00] <mahangu> how do you untar something?
[02:00] <vikash> got it?/
[02:00] <bimberi> dade`: no, but 2 things could be tried...
[02:01] <dade`> bimberi: tellme
[02:01] <Qantourisc> where can i find a list of the repository's please ?
[02:01] <nalioth> Qantourisc: /msg ubotu sources
[02:01] <bimberi> dade`: 1. download and install the debian packages 2. try downloading the ubuntu i386 packages and attempting to install them anywat
[02:01] <riddlebox> where do I put my wep key for wireless?
[02:01] <bimberi> *anyway
[02:01] <vikash> nalioth can u help me
[02:01] <dade`> bimberi: install a i386 package on ppc ?
[02:01] <brenner_> mahangu: tar xf <file>, iirc
[02:02] <dade`> !@#[]
[02:02] <ubotu> dade`: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[02:02] <nalioth> vikash: no i'm sorry i dont run intel machines
[02:02] <Jack_B> is there a list for all the commands i can enter in this channel ?
[02:02] <vikash> which one u use
[02:02] <vikash> mac
[02:02] <Jack_B> like !faq etc
[02:02] <bimberi> dade`: i'm working on the theory that it's a packaging error
[02:02] <nalioth> mahangu: brenner_: tar xvzf file.tar.gz
[02:02] <bimberi> dade`: but maybe 1. is better :)
[02:02] <nalioth> Jack_B: any IRC howto can help you
[02:02] <brenner_> nalioth: that's gzipped though
[02:03] <deFrysk> !tell Jack_B about ubotu
[02:03] <aftertaf> xvjf then brenner_
[02:03] <nalioth> brenner_: you mean somebody let gzip off lightly?
[02:03] <bimberi> Jack_B: /help
[02:03] <Jack_B> thanks deFrysk
[02:03] <vikash> can anybody tell me how to share folder from a mounted drive
[02:03] <dade`> bimberi: i386 and ppc are 2 different packages, not the same binary
[02:03] <fredforfaen> is there a solution for peeps who want to install things.....backports seems down , any other repos i could use?
[02:03] <mahangu> files i downloa dand install, where should i put them? i mean untar them to
[02:04] <brenner> mahangu: what files?
[02:04] <Jack_B> bimberi, i'm talking about queries for ubotu
[02:04] <bimberi> dade`: i know that. but the debian packages are for "all" and eclipse _is_ java based
[02:04] <nalioth> fredforfaen: you ran off yesterday b4 i could point you to the solution
[02:04] <aftertaf> mahangu:  the tar xvjf|xvzf command does it automatically
[02:04] <bimberi> Jack_B: yes, sorry
[02:04] <aftertaf> you can the mv the directory to a new name
[02:04] <brenner> aftertaf: you're probably right.....
[02:04] <fredforfaen> nalioth sorry about that
[02:04] <fredforfaen> so whats the solution nalioth ?
[02:04] <aftertaf> brenner:  i know little, but i progress and pick things up here and there ;)
[02:04] <Jack_B> bimberi, no worries
[02:04] <nalioth> fredforfaen: your answer is here: http://planet.ubuntulinux.org/
[02:05] <fredforfaen> nalioth ok thanx
[02:05] <mahangu> aftertaf, that means it puts in /usr/bin ?
[02:05] <Qantourisc> sorry i must be missing something the 2.6 kernels do not apear
[02:05] <nalioth> mahangu: NEVER put anything in /usr/bin. YOU install things into /usr/local/bin
[02:05] <aftertaf> mahangu:  nope... when you untar a file, it is unpacked where you typed the file....
[02:06] <fredforfaen> nalioth thanx a million!
[02:06] <aftertaf> mahangu:  what are you d/l ing anyway.. source code?
[02:06] <nalioth> fredforfaen: enjoy
[02:06] <bimberi> dade`: anyway, gtg, good luck :)
[02:07] <mahangu> aftertaf, i did apt-get instead
[02:07] <mahangu> for supybot
[02:07] <aftertaf> mahangu:  if it can be apt-getted, always better to get it that way...
[02:07] <brenner> Qantourisc: what are you looking for exactly?
[02:07] <twibbler> ? has anybody had problems with openoffice in Breezy ... I have no help installed which is causing problems ...
[02:08] <afaik> two questions
[02:08] <Qantourisc> brenner: a pritty new kernel, and xorg to get some drivers working
[02:08] <afaik> how do I view a vob file?
[02:08] <dade`> ubotu: who are you ?
[02:08] <ubotu> dade`: I think you lost me on that one
[02:08] <Pickle_Weasel> what's a good MSN client that isn't shoddy and unstable, like aMSN?
[02:08] <afaik> and how do I use rar to piece together a multifile rar file
[02:08] <afaik> Pickle_Weasel, gaim
[02:08] <Pickle_Weasel> anything else? i'd like to keep my AIM and MSN separate =\
[02:08] <nalioth> afaik: use tar + bzip2
[02:09] <dade`> ubotu: yes, you told me to speak english ?
[02:09] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, dade`
[02:09] <XHK>  I have to run some kind of file, i typed sudo /<directory>/ but it says there is no such command as sudo: /<directory>/.  If i type the directory without sudo, it says i have no permissions :S How can i run it then?
[02:10] <brenner> ubotu: tell dade` about ubotu
[02:10] <afaik> I just ran rar x first_file.rar
[02:10] <nalioth> afaik: if you have unrar-nonfree installed you start at part1.rar or .rar and it'll open
[02:10] <brenner> dade`: :)
[02:10] <nalioth> afaik: that should do it, too
[02:10] <dade`> i know
[02:11] <DanglyBits> is kde 3.5 beta available for ubuntu amd64?
[02:11] <dade`> but it screamed at me with no reason before
[02:11] <dade`> so that bot sucks
[02:11] <dade`> ahah
[02:11] <XHK>  I have to run some kind of file, i typed sudo /<directory>/ but it says there is no such command as sudo: /<directory>/. If i type the directory without sudo, it says i have no permissions :S How can i run it then?
[02:11] <Jack_B> what does the multiverse, universe and restricted after the repositories indicate?
[02:11] <brenner> XHK: usually means you typed a nonexistent directory...what's the exact command you used?
[02:11] <thrthr> ;p
[02:11] <brenner> non-existing even
[02:11] <nerp\a\> XHK, yeah, what brenner said
[02:11] <jibo> ciao
[02:11] <XHK> but that directory does ecist
[02:12] <afaik> there's another repository
[02:12] <afaik> rarely mentioned, and even hated by most
[02:12] <brenner> dade`: yeah....the responses have been critisisced before
[02:12] <brenner> :)
[02:12] <XHK> I go try more then...
[02:12] <afaik> warez repository
[02:12] <nalioth> XHK: you dont execute directories, anyway
[02:12] <afaik> apt-get install vmware
[02:12] <afaik> apt-get install cxoffice
[02:12] <Qantourisc> ok i found the example sources.list :p
[02:12] <afaik> etc
[02:13] <Jack_B> what does the multiverse, universe and restricted after the repositories mean?
[02:13] <nalioth> Jack_B: their legal standing
[02:13] <atha> Jack_B: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components
[02:13] <Jack_B> nalioth, can you elaborate further?
[02:14] <nalioth> Jack_B: see the link above
[02:14] <havoc> Jack_B: I believe the restricted are the "non-free" packages
[02:14] <Jack_B> ahh ok cool
[02:14] <afaik> it means packages that are from the universe, packages that are from the multiverse (other dimensions) and restricted (warez)
[02:14] <fredforfaen> nalioth that gave me newer software to :)
[02:14] <nalioth> fredforfaen: imagine that
[02:15] <afaik> don't use the restricted repos unless you want to get arrested
[02:15] <aftertaf> hehe
[02:15] <cat> lol
[02:15] <DanglyBits> is kde 3.5 beta available for ubuntu amd64?
[02:15] <deFrysk> no
[02:15] <aftertaf> DanglyBits:  nope.
[02:15] <nalioth> DanglyBits: better to ask in #kubuntu
[02:15] <cat> nope
[02:15] <DanglyBits> thnk
[02:16] <brownie17> what is the command for file foller?
[02:16] <cat> brownie17: ?
[02:16] <cat> file foller?
[02:16] <brownie17> like howwould i run it form terminal?
[02:16] <brownie17> the archive manager
[02:16] <atha> you mean file-roller ?
[02:16] <cat> brownie17: file-roller?
[02:16] <brownie17> oh ok
[02:16] <deFrysk> brownie17, just rightklick a package in nautilus and select extract
[02:16] <lorenzod> file-roller, perhaps?
[02:16] <brownie17> deFrysk, i need sudo to do i though
[02:16] <deFrysk> brownie17, sudo to extract ?
[02:17] <deFrysk> why ?
[02:17] <cat> deFrysk: extract what?
[02:17] <cat> !doc
[02:17] <ubotu> I guess doc is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is a good doc to read
[02:17] <deFrysk> cat that too ;p
[02:17] <cat> yeah
[02:17] <cat> i love reading that's the thing
[02:17] <nerp> !karma seveas
[02:17] <ubotu> seveas has neutral karma
[02:18] <cat> seveas is really good with linux
[02:18] <rejden> i was thinkin, is there any possibility that developers will add Ad-Hoc feature in Gnome Network Connection and also durring instalation?
[02:18] <Qantourisc> what happens if a pacackage is in more then one repository ?
[02:18] <cat> Qantourisc: nothing
[02:18] <Chousuke> the newest one is installed.
[02:18] <Qantourisc> hmm odd
[02:18] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, conflicts lock ups an broken installs
[02:18] <Chousuke> unless you use apt-pinning
[02:18] <rejden> Chousuke, newest stable right?
[02:18] <Chousuke> rejden: stable?
[02:19] <Qantourisc> still missing 2.6 kernels after adding the hole list found here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:19] <hhurtta> is Colony some new codename for latest Ubuntu release?
[02:19] <Chousuke> It'll just look at the version number and install the newest.
[02:19] <rejden> Chousuke, yes stable version of package
[02:19] <nalioth> Qantourisc: you'll only find the 2.6 kernels in breezy
[02:19] <piterr> hi
[02:19] <Qantourisc> aaaa
[02:19] <piterr> somebody can join to #help,0 ? I can't
[02:19] <Chousuke> rejden: Apt doesn't distinguish between stable and unstable.
[02:20] <nerp> i'll brb, gotta restart x
[02:20] <rejden> Chousuke, ok, i'm BSD guy ;)
[02:20] <Chousuke> Unless you use apt-pinning.
[02:20] <Qantourisc>                          5.10 (Breezy Badger) Preview Release ?
[02:20] <Chousuke> which is an advanced technique
[02:20] <Qantourisc> you mean i must install 5.1 then ?
[02:20] <Chousuke> No-one's forcing you.
[02:20] <deFrysk> 5.10 or 5.04
[02:21] <Chousuke> Warty is still usable too, you know.
[02:21] <Qantourisc> so how do i upgrade from 5.04 to 5.1
[02:21] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, read the topic
[02:21] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, there is a link there
[02:21] <Skid> hm, in screen can I have like two terminals joined as one (note: NOT multisession screen)
[02:21] <Qantourisc> okies
[02:21] <hhurtta> command is /topic, if you're using irssi
[02:21] <shekhar> can someone help me with bluetooth manager in breezy?
[02:21] <atha> second link in /topic
[02:21] <Skid> as in irssi at the top, and then *shrug* top in the bottom ?
[02:21] <ccooke-work> Skid: what exactly do you mean?
[02:21] <Skid> Im sure i saw a screen shot
[02:21] <Skid> erm, do you use irssi ccooke-work ?
[02:22] <ccooke-work> Skid: ah, right.
[02:22] <ccooke-work> yes, I do.
[02:22] <Skid> if you have a "split" window.. similar to that in screen
[02:22] <Qantourisc> WARNING: BACK UP EVERYTHING YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE BEFORE ATTEMPTING THIS!    <= sounds serieus :p
[02:22] <ccooke-work> You want a split screen.
[02:22] <Skid> split window contains irssi completely (aka notices split window), bottom other
[02:22] <ccooke-work> this is possible
[02:22] <piterr> by plp #ubuntu,0 ruls
[02:22] <Skid> hmm, google returns all but what im after
[02:22] <ccooke-work> Skid: Ctrl-a S
[02:22] <Skid> can't find it in man page
[02:22] <Chousuke> Qantourisc: It's safer than upgrading gentoo
[02:22] <Skid> oki lets see
[02:22] <deFrysk> Chousuke, hehe
[02:22] <Qantourisc> Chousuke: i find upgrading gentoo VERRY safe
[02:22] <deFrysk> how true
[02:23] <Chousuke> Qantourisc: It's still less safe than upgrading Ubuntu
[02:23] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, why are you on ubuntu then ?
[02:23] <ccooke-work> Skid: Ctrl-a <tab> to switch between them
[02:23] <ccooke-work> Skid: Ctrl-a K to kill one.
[02:23] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: because someone else wan't to use it :p
[02:23] <Chousuke> Especially if you're upgrading to unstable gentoo :P
[02:23] <Skid> hmm
[02:23] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, ahh :)
[02:23] <Chousuke> and hmm
[02:23] <Skid> doesn't seem to be working
[02:23] <Skid> ctrl-a+s ?
[02:23] <nerp> I liked emerge world
[02:23] <Chousuke> are you running hoary already?
[02:23] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, smart sombody else that is :)
[02:23] <ccooke-work> no, wait. Not ctrl-a K.
[02:23] <Chousuke> you don't need a CD if you are.
[02:24] <dmacdonald111> hi again. I seem to have stumbled upon a problem. With mepis (which I am using now) my wireless network is not only recognised, but set up correctly. However, I have been trying to set it up in ubuntu, but it does not even recognise the wireless lan. I have searched the internet, but unable to find any help on the wireless lan that I have. Has anyone managed to do this?
[02:24] <Skid> ahh
[02:24] <Skid> case sensitive
[02:24] <Chousuke> just edit a couple lines in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: all depends on what you wat from your linux, in my case it's gentoo :p
[02:24] <ccooke-work> Skid: YES.
[02:24] <ccooke-work> oop.
[02:24] <Skid> nice htanks
[02:24] <Skid> ;P
[02:24] <Skid> thanks even
[02:24] <Skid> hehe
[02:24] <nalioth> dmacdonald111: why are you not in #mepis?
[02:24] <ccooke-work> Skid: it's Ctrl-a X to kill the current region.
[02:24] <nerp> nalioth, because he's trying to fix a ubuntu problem
[02:24] <Skid> hmm
[02:24] <dmacdonald111> because I want ubuntu working and to get away from mepis.
[02:24] <ccooke-work> okay?
[02:24] <Skid> how do you fork anothe rprocess in the othe rscsreen then?
[02:24] <Skid> I can't seem to do anything in it ;)
[02:25] <nerp> ccooke-work, may I pm?
[02:25] <nalioth> dmacdonald111: can you copy the network settings from mepis?
[02:25] <deFrysk> !wireless
[02:25] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:25] <Skid> hm, that's cool
[02:25] <ccooke-work> nerp: sure.
[02:25] <dmacdonald111> nalioth: I have tried, but it doesn't even pick up the wireless lan at all. I have all the settings and information.
[02:26] <ccooke-work> Skid: just use the standard screen stuff
[02:26] <shekhar> help
[02:26] <ccooke-work> Skid: ctrl-a <number> to change to another screen window, or ctrl-a : exec bash, say, to run a shell
[02:26] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: gentoo is like an ongoing work, there are no "mayor" upgrades :p
[02:26] <deFrysk> shekhar, good question
[02:26] <ccooke-work> or Ctrl-a c inside a region to open a new shell, rather
[02:27] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, I know , its a boring compile list
[02:27] <cat> shekhar: ask
[02:27] <shekhar> deFrysk:  it helps to ask first to get someone's attention :) -- i have a question about logout in gnome
[02:27] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: who said you had to look at while it's compiling :p
[02:27] <cat> what about it
[02:27] <cat> ?
[02:27] <Skid> ccooke-work: thank you :)
[02:27] <deFrysk> shekhar, here we just ask
[02:27] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: you silly :p
[02:27] <Skid> just found it at botto of manpage, I overlooked it last itme
[02:27] <dmacdonald111> I have the broadcom4306 set up as eth0. Is this the wireless lan? I currently use it as wlan0
[02:27] <cat> Skid: where?
[02:27] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, it slows down my pc ;p
[02:27] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: hell i'm recompiling my entire system as we speak :p
[02:27] <shekhar> deFrysk:  when i want to restart or shut down, most of the time it just saves my session and doesn't restart or shut down
[02:27] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: that's why you have "nice" :p
[02:27] <Skid> cat: it's like c-a
[02:28] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, better yours slow then mine ;p
[02:28] <Skid> where c = the control character, I assume
[02:28] <cat> Skid: give me the link
[02:28] <Skid> cat: I'm reading the man page
[02:28] <efemer> salut
[02:28] <Skid> (man screen)
[02:28] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: sec, merging config files
[02:28] <cat> oh
[02:28] <cat> man
[02:29] <Ronaldinho> hi everyone
[02:29] <efemer> je voulais savoir si le logiciel graveman gere les rippage mp3 wave pour graver un cd audio ?
[02:29] <ccooke-work> screen is surely one of the mostuselful and mind-bogglingly insane programs ever to be written.
[02:29] <Kira> A silly question: How does Canonical Ltd. make money?
[02:29] <Skid> ccooke-work: indeed
[02:29] <Skid> I also like xmove
[02:29] <IcE-bOy> hji
[02:29] <IcE-bOy> hi
[02:29] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, </distrowar>
[02:29] <Skid> that's really funky :)
[02:29] <nalioth> efemer: in #ubuntu-fr, s'il vous plait
[02:29] <IcE-bOy> how can i use my own DSDT table (.aml file) with a intramfs kernel ?
[02:29] <stucel> hi i install ubuntu on my ancient machine, it says some packages faild to install and now it cannot start X server, how to configure X server ?
[02:29] <nerp> ccooke-work, did you recieve my pm?
[02:29] <nalioth> Kira: it's owner is a bazillionaire
[02:29] <efemer> ok thanks =) nalioth
[02:29] <ccooke-work> nerp: ... I replied...
[02:30] <Skid> what'd be cool, is that if you could resize the windows, and stuff
[02:30] <Ronaldinho> any of you know the "new repositories" where I can fin Java and w32codecs and the rest missing?
[02:30] <Kira> efemer would like to know if the graveman software manages mp3 wave ripping for cd audio burning.
[02:30] <nerp> ccooke-work, I never got any reply..
[02:30] <ccooke-work> how odd.
[02:30] <nerp> yeah, no kidding
[02:30] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i'm not going to go into a distrowar :p
[02:30] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, yes you are! ;p
[02:30] <ccooke-work> that's odd.
[02:30] <efemer> Kira: you speak usualy french ?
[02:30] <nerp> yeh, no kidding
[02:30] <nerp> ccooke-work, try /notice
[02:31] <ulisse> hello tribe!
[02:31] <ccooke-work> it says private messages from unregistered users are blocked. Could have sworn I was registered
[02:31] <Kira> efemer: I live in Quebec. :)
[02:31] <efemer> ok
[02:31] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: quess i got caried away then, but this is my opnion on ALL distro wars: it's because A likes this or doesn't care about B that makes distro X better for him or her.
[02:31] <ccooke-work> I mean, I wouldn't be here otherwise...
[02:31] <nerp> ccooke-work, ahh.. maybe not ccooke-work but just ccooke is
[02:31] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: this difference for evry person, and sistuation, thus it's and endless debate
[02:31] <Ronaldinho> any of you know the "new repositories" where I can fin Java and w32codecs and the rest missing?
[02:31] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, ^5
[02:31] <ccooke-work> doh.
[02:31] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: bit like taste :)
[02:31] <ccooke> you have a good point
[02:31] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, for sure
[02:31] <Ronaldinho> guys?
[02:32] <Ronaldinho> please
[02:32] <Ronaldinho> any of you know the "new repositories" where I can fin Java and w32codecs and the rest missing?
[02:32] <brenner> Ronaldinho: i've heard w32codecs has been removed
[02:32] <deFrysk> Ronaldinho, patience please please....
[02:32] <Ronaldinho> ssory
[02:32] <nalioth> Ronaldinho: breezy or hoary?
[02:32] <stucel> hi i install ubuntu on my ancient machine, it says some packages faild to install and now it cannot start X server, how to configure X server ?
[02:32] <Ronaldinho> hoary
[02:32] <afaik> Ronaldinho, the java package probably uses the GNU classpath crap
[02:32] <nalioth> Ronaldinho: http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[02:32] <nerp> stucel, dpkg-configure
[02:32] <brenner> stucel: did the install stuff up in any way?
[02:32] <Qantourisc> stucel: <your terminal editor here> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:32] <stucel> thx nerp
[02:32] <afaik> Ronaldinho, you are better off getting java from sun and installing it
[02:32] <nalioth> brenner: want to learn something?
[02:32] <deFrysk> Ronaldinho, its very simple to make a dej for java
[02:32] <Qantourisc> stucel: or xorg-config or xorgcfg
[02:33] <deFrysk> deb*
[02:33] <stucel> thx everybody
[02:33] <Ronaldinho> with alien?
[02:33] <Ronaldinho> right
[02:33] <deFrysk> no
[02:33] <stucel> im sorry brenner, im noob
[02:33] <deFrysk> Ronaldinho, with java package
[02:33] <nalioth> Ronaldinho: the debs i pointed you to were created by an ubuntu developer for ubuntu
[02:33] <deFrysk> java-pakage that is
[02:33] <nalioth> deFrysk: afaik brenner see my prior post
[02:33] <deFrysk> java-package that is darn spelling
[02:33] <Qantourisc> nerp: what is this dpkg-configure thing ? and automates system configurer ?
[02:34] <stucel> how to start the X server ?
[02:34] <afaik> but java-package uses the GNU classpath
[02:34] <Ronaldinho> cool guys
[02:34] <Qantourisc> stucel: startx, or restart the euu xgml or something
[02:34] <brenner> nalioth: so they _have_ been removed?
[02:34] <Ronaldinho> thanx for the help
[02:34] <ccooke> afaik: it works fine with the Sun JRE
[02:34] <nerp> Qantourisc, yeah something like that, it's an original debian tool to set up certain progs / apps that may need to be customised rather than just doing a generic install
[02:34] <afaik> ccooke, I have ran into a lot of problems with the GNU classpath
[02:35] <ccooke> afaik: I use it to play Go, so it's about my most important application
[02:35] <ulisse> is there safe a way to run fsck on a running os? on mounted partitions, I mean..
[02:35] <Qantourisc> stucel: normally there is a procces running on screen0 (aka f7) that keeps the X alive
[02:35] <ccooke> afaik: the java-package sun java debs are working fine
[02:35] <deFrysk> yes they work great
[02:35] <nalioth> brenner: yes for legal reasons
[02:35] <stucel> i tink the problem is, the X server failed to install
[02:35] <afaik> I use it to run JEdit, ArgoUML, and a ton of j2ee stuff
[02:35] <Qantourisc> stucel: so you can eiter restart that procces or run startx (single launch of X)
[02:35] <brenner> nalioth: if so, won't that guy/girl be liable for prosecution?
[02:35] <nalioth> brenner: got a pencil or a bookmark tool?
[02:35] <brenner> nalioth: heh. haven't been online recently.....shoot
[02:36] <nalioth> brenner: want the URLs so you can send seveas to jail?
[02:36] <nalioth> brenner: seveas wrote them and was hosting them
[02:36] <Qantourisc> howlong does .... euuu upgrade to breeze take ?
[02:36] <Qantourisc> :p
[02:36] <nalioth> brenner: these are for hoary http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[02:36] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, 600 meg + installing
[02:37] <nalioth> brenner: and these are for breezy http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[02:37] <ompaul> ulisse, no
[02:37] <nalioth> brenner: now you can be helpful
[02:37] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, so depends on your bandwith and proc speed
[02:37] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: arg and i download the 5.04 yust yesterday :p should have downloaded the 5.1 :D
[02:37] <ulisse> ompaul, and is there a way to ceck a disk w/o too much complicated instructions?
[02:37] <concept10> Today's breezy update includes 99 updates :)
[02:37] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, you should but upgrade is seemless so should work fine
[02:37] <ompaul> ulisse, if you want to reboot the machine I can give you a one liner
[02:38] <ulisse> ompaul, I discovered that my GF, at work, always used the reset button to switch OS...
[02:38] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i'm upgrading now :p
[02:38] <deFrysk> concept10, due to modules of xorg
[02:38] <manuk> Can anyone help me with ps2 mouse configuration on laptop?
[02:38] <brenner> nalioth: of course i don't want to send him to jail...i was just curious
[02:38] <ulisse> ompaul, shoot the line
[02:38] <ompaul> ulisse, sudo shutdown -F now
[02:38] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i'll use this time to explore gnome (i'm an ion user) :)
[02:38] <nalioth> brenner: send the new users to those links, they are java j2re and sdk and w32codecs for hoary and breezy
[02:38] <ompaul> ulisse, when you reboot the box it will check alll partitions
[02:38] <renjii> how do i use ./configure switches while using apt-get?
[02:38] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, make sure to read the upgradenotes , /topic
[02:39] <nalioth> renjii: you dont
[02:39] <renjii> do'h
[02:39] <ccooke> Qantourisc: what's ion like?
[02:39] <ompaul> ulisse, and remove the other os :-)
[02:39] <brenner> nalioth: will do
[02:39] <ccooke> always meant to try it
[02:39] <ompaul> ulisse, stops them problems
[02:39] <Qantourisc> ccooke: as in: when using it, or as in "how does it look" ?
[02:39] <renjii> so, thta means, i'll have to donwload source and compile if i want custom options?
[02:39] <ccooke> Qantourisc: when using it.
[02:39] <nalioth> renjii: correct
[02:40] <concept10> deFrysk, have you done the update yet?  if so, any problems?
[02:40] <ulisse> ompaul, I wish remove the oter US (un-operating system...), but I can't, she need it for work...
[02:40] <nalioth> renjii: ubotu has msg'd you
[02:40] <renjii> nalioth - thanks
[02:40] <ulisse> ompaul, but I've made a nice job, she loves Ubuntu and hates "the other"...
[02:40] <deFrysk> concept10, no probs here ,ugraded a few weeks ago
[02:40] <Qantourisc> ccooke: it's a wm that splits your screen into pieces, and in each piece you can put a window, you can recut screen areas and merge: http://qantourisc.afraid.org:8080/About%20Me/ion3.png
[02:41] <ompaul> ulisse, so teach her to use shootdown - R now
[02:41] <brownie17> i upgraded from limewire to limewire pro, and now when i click x it shutsdown limewire, instead of minimizing it to system stray
[02:41] <IcE-bOy> where can i find the .config file that use ubuntu kernel ?
[02:41] <ccooke> Qantourisc: yeah, I've seen it. Just never got around to trying it.
[02:41] <ccooke> Qantourisc: anyway. it's off-topic.
[02:41] <ulisse> ompaul, I'v done it right now! ;)
[02:41] <ompaul> ulisse, sudo shootdown -R now   <reboot
[02:41] <deFrysk> brownie17, check the settings of limewire
[02:41] <Qantourisc> ccooke: :p
[02:41] <brownie17> ulisse, what is shootdown -r?
[02:41] <ccooke> Qantourisc: I should know better than to indluge my curiosity all the time...
[02:42] <ulisse> brownie17, I think a typo...
[02:42] <nalioth> brownie17: it's a misspelling
[02:42] <brownie17> deFrysk, are you familiar with it? there doesn't seem to be a setting
[02:42] <deFrysk> shutdown -r now is reboot
[02:42] <ompaul> brownie17, -r actuall reboot
[02:42] <brownie17> ulisse, nalioth ok. just trying to learn something
[02:42] <ompaul> -R was wrong
[02:42] <nalioth> brownie17: not all of us have english as our first language
[02:42] <brownie17> runlevel 6!
[02:42] <Qantourisc> ccooke: :p
[02:42] <brownie17> nalioth, sorry!
[02:43] <brownie17> nalioth, my apologies kind sir, and i know how frsutrating it is to try to converse wiht someone whom you cannot fully understan,d or be understood by
[02:44] <sviestainis> hi, what does "can't read super block" mean?
[02:44] <Qantourisc> sviestainis: if i'm correct: your in trouble :p let's hope i'm rong
[02:44] <ompaul> sviestainis, it means you need to run fsck -y
[02:45] <shekhar> can someone help me with bluetooth manager?
[02:45] <brownie17> ompaul, the ah "distro-upgrade" option (is that correct), will that upgrade me to breezy?
[02:46] <nxv__> which packages are the x headers / dev files?
[02:46] <nalioth> brownie17: with an edited sources.list, yes
[02:46] <nalioth> nxv__: xlibs-dev and xlibs-static-dev
[02:46] <nxv__> nalioth: thx
[02:46] <spayne> shekhar: what's up with gnome-bluetooth?
[02:47] <brownie17> nalioth, hm.. will that give me the option in grub boot, like whne updating kernel, between booting hoary and breezy?
[02:47] <ompaul> sviestainis, a file system has several superblocks, they are lists of the locations of what inodes are in use (addresses of files) and the one that your machine wants to use is not in sync with the others so it wants to check the filesystem, this is done with the fsck command
[02:47] <nalioth_zZz> brownie17: no. it will upgrade your hoary
[02:47] <Qantourisc> hmm i thouged running this in X wasn't a good idea
[02:47] <ompaul> !tell brownie17 about breezy
[02:48] <brownie17> nalioth_zZz, is there a way to dual boot without partitioning?
[02:48] <FhaeTon> Ok so Ubuntuisthemostpopular
[02:48] <Mose`> zdarowa
[02:48] <brownie17> ompaul, danke-schern
[02:48] <FhaeTon> ja
[02:48] <FhaeTon> ja
[02:48] <ompaul> brownie17, don't complain if it falls over, it is development, so it is not finished
[02:48] <FhaeTon> vas ist los ?
[02:49] <ompaul> !de
[02:49] <ubotu> de is, like, totally, #ubuntu-de bitte.
[02:49] <funkyHat> how easy is it to get ubuntu connected to AOL internet?
[02:49] <FhaeTon> wo ist de banhoff?
[02:49] <brownie17> ompaul, im not upgrading yet. um... one more. when i click links in X-Chat, it goes to konqueror. but firefox is my default. how do i make X-Chat open firefox for links?
[02:49] <brenner> brownie17: set firefox as default broswer i would think
[02:49] <brownie17> brenner, it is allready ^^^
[02:50] <concept10> brownie17, are you using kde?
[02:50] <sviestainis> well, thanks for explaining. That message "can't read superblock" was displayed, when i tried to mount my usb flash storage. does it mean, that my usb device is screwed?
[02:50] <brownie17> concept10, i have kubuntu-desktop installed, but i am using gnome currently
[02:50] <chrissturm> does anyone here know if its possible to install windows xp on hda6 (i need a windows partition and i wonder if i can just shrink hda5 and install windows on the free space)
[02:51] <concept10> brownie17, goto System > Prefs > Preffered Applications
[02:51] <brownie17> FhaeTon, /join #ubuntu-de
[02:51] <deFrysk> chrissturm, yes but your grub will be gone
[02:51] <FhaeTon> ok
[02:51] <FhaeTon> where is it
[02:51] <brownie17> concept10, it says firefox
[02:51] <chrissturm> deFrysk, but i can just boot with a ubuntu boot cd and resore it, right?
[02:52] <concept10> brownie17, right-clink on the link, and then use run new mozilla firefox
[02:52] <brownie17> FhaeTon, what do you mean where is it. just type "/join #ubuntu-de" for german support
[02:52] <FhaeTon> where network
[02:53] <brenner> FhaeTon: irc.freenode.net
[02:53] <deFrysk> chrissturm, in the wiki its explained somewhere ,I dont use windows so not sure howto fix it
[02:53] <hutgyrr> ive just used tar c DISK1 >archive1.bz2 to make the DISK1 folder into an archive from the command line but its the exact same size, its hasn't compressed it at all
[02:53] <brownie17> concept10, that works :) but it takes longer :(
[02:53] <brenner> FhaeTon: just type the command brownie17 gave you directly into here
[02:53] <FhaeTon> ok
[02:53] <IcE-bOy> where can i find the .config file that use ubuntu kernel ?
[02:54] <brenner> brownie17: you doing ctrl-clicks?
[02:54] <hutgyrr> is there another flag i need to specify to compress it?
[02:54] <atha> hutgyrr: use j flag with tar to use bzip2 compression
[02:54] <hutgyrr> what would be the best compression to use. I want to be able to open it on macs and pcs also
[02:55] <brownie17> brenner, no
[02:55] <joel__> what media players does ubuntu support?
[02:55] <FhaeTon> I know german but I don't want to speak it man
[02:55] <brenner> brownie17: try it on a link and see what happens
[02:55] <brenner> joel__: /msg ubotu player
[02:55] <brownie17> what is NFS?
[02:55] <brenner> *players
[02:55] <brownie17> brenner, nothing
[02:56] <joel__> can I find that on the ubuntu page?
[02:56] <brenner> joel__: that's not even a definitive list
[02:56] <ompaul> brownie17,  network file system
[02:56] <joel__> what?
[02:56] <brenner> joel__: find what?
[02:56] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: guess what :D update failed :D
[02:56] <joel__> the obotu player
[02:56] <ompaul> brownie17,  some people say 'no fine* security'
[02:56] <andril> hello all again :)
[02:56] <brenner> joel__: no, nvm...here:
[02:56] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, how ?
[02:56] <brenner> !players
[02:56] <ubotu> well, players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[02:57] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i think because X was still running
[02:57] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, not possible
[02:57] <deFrysk> qa do apt-get -f install
[02:57] <deFrysk> Qantourisc,
[02:57] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i'll tell you when it fails again
[02:57] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, do apt-get -f install
[02:57] <eruin> should /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/  contain anything?
[02:58] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i'm already foing apt-get dist-upgrade -f
[02:58] <andril> and update on any time tble on when Breezy will be final?
[02:58] <brenner> eruin: _i've_ got stuff in there....
[02:58] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, if it fails again do apt-get -f install and then again dist-upgrade
[02:58] <brownie17> andril, oct 13th
[02:58] <deFrysk> not friday
[02:58] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: ok i will :p
[02:58] <hutgyrr> whats the difference between a tar and a tarball
[02:58] <eruin> brenner, yeah, I notice most others do too, but not here for some obscure reason
[02:59] <andril> brownie17: thanks I can't wait
[02:59] <brenner> gettin' close :)
[02:59] <brownie17> hutgyrr, none, they are one and the same. i think
[02:59] <andril> brenner: thanks
[02:59] <eruin> and I'm thinking that has something to do with my laptop powering down due to overheat all the time ;P
[02:59] <brownie17> andril, same
[02:59] <brenner> andril: not sure what for...but you're welcome. :D
[03:01] <JustinHH> a program dowsn't respond. how can i close it?
[03:01] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i yust hope after i done all this, i can get sounds and vga to work
[03:01] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, make sure to apt-get update if it fails again couse the repos are updated regurarly
[03:01] <JustinHH> (without restarting the cmputer :P)
[03:02] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: doing that as we speak
[03:02] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, ;)
[03:02] <stelvit> Hello to all
[03:03] <JustinHH> !pingme
[03:03] <ubotu> JustinHH: Are you on ritalin?
[03:03] <gcm> hello
[03:03] <deFrysk> hello
[03:04] <Jack_B> hello
[03:04] <brenner> JustinHH: easy way is to use system monitor
[03:04] <JustinHH> a program dowsn't respond. how can i terminate the program without restarting the pc?
[03:04] <gcm> do you speak freanch
[03:04] <deFrysk> JustinHH, killall <prog>
[03:04] <ompaul> !fr
[03:04] <ubotu> fr is, like, Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:04] <syntaxx> i just wanna know if in debian sarge have a autoconfiguration for networking just like ubuntu?
[03:05] <ompaul> syntaxman, that would be a debian question
[03:05] <deFrysk> syntaxx, I guess it does it even better
[03:05] <deFrysk> in ubuntu that is ;p
[03:05] <syntaxx> ompaul: i join debian and yet they said i might get a better question here in ubuntu =/
[03:06] <ompaul> syntaxx guess you gota do both then :)
[03:06] <brenner> syntaxx: why not try out a livecd?
[03:06] <ompaul> syntaxx, i take it you are talking about the gui for it
[03:07] <Qantourisc> i'm going to game some :p
[03:07] <Qantourisc> i need it atm :)
[03:07] <Qantourisc> o and thank you all
[03:07] <icewt> anyone happen to know where could i get a version of skype that works with hoary?
[03:08] <kemik> skype.com
[03:08] <icewt> kemik, the latest version doesn't work
[03:08] <fester> geee.. upgrded, anew kernel auto install and now nvidia and wireless modules no ;lonhger work
[03:08] <icewt> kemik, unmet dependencies. older version used to work
[03:08] <fester> brilliant !
[03:08] <ompaul> icewt, if you want I can dcc it to you
[03:09] <kemik> icewt:  ah :/ cant apt-get the deps' ?
[03:09] <icewt> ompaul, that would be nice
[03:09] <syntaxx> ompaul: but do u think there is?
[03:09] <killian> hmm i'm back
[03:09] <killian> i'm qantourisc
[03:09] <icewt> kemik, well, i don't know where to get the old ones
[03:09] <ompaul> syntaxx in debian no, I think you have tools but they are not as good by a long chalk
[03:09] <killian> even apt-install fails
[03:10] <syntaxx> ompaul: ic thanks
[03:10] <joel__> How do I install xmms 1.2.1?
[03:10] <icewt> kemik, ah, i understood you wrong. well, i think the latest version wuold work with breezy, but hoary seems to have too old version of libqt3c102-mt
[03:11] <ompaul> icewt, it is 6.52megs in size :(
[03:11] <bzimage> killian, Qantourisc: why twice?
[03:11] <kemik> icewt:  ok.. hmm. well try to get an old one and use that until breezy is stable
[03:11] <bzimage> (user)
[03:11] <Jack_B> ubuntu is lagging like shit, is there a way i can kill some unused processes
[03:11] <killian> bzimage: duno, windows habbit i quess :D
[03:11] <icewt> kemik, that's what i'm trying to do, ompaul is just sending me the old one :)
[03:11] <fester> open "top" and look at the porocesses running
[03:11] <deFrysk> joel__, sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:12] <kemik> icewt:   skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb i got that one , can publish it on www
[03:12] <d2dchat> what is the package name for Gnome Terminal?
[03:12] <kemik> icewt:  oh, ok.. nvm then =)
[03:12] <fester> Jack_B - open a console and type top
[03:12] <deFrysk> d2dchat, gnome-terminal
[03:12] <ompaul> joel__, Installed: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 its in main
[03:12] <d2dchat> deFrysk, thanks:)
[03:12] <ompaul> joel__, so use synaptic or apt-get to get it
[03:12] <joel__> defrysk__, thanks it installed
[03:12] <Jack_B> ok fester
[03:13] <killian> dependecie failes
[03:13] <d2dchat> why is Terminal not appearing in my Applications menu when it says it is installed
[03:13] <killian> deFrysk: depenecy issues
[03:13] <d2dchat> Terminal disappeared when i went from hoary to breezy and back to hoary
[03:13] <kemik> d2dchat:  applications->system tools -> terminal ? noe?
[03:13] <d2dchat> nope, no terminal no root terminal
[03:13] <deFrysk> killian, post your sources.list in pastebin
[03:13] <kemik> ouch
[03:13] <Jack_B> holy crap i only got 128mb of ram and 100 mb is used already and i only got xchat and terminal open
[03:13] <d2dchat> yea, it hurts:(
[03:13] <d2dchat> i can use "console" though
[03:14] <d2dchat> or
[03:14] <d2dchat> Konsole rather
[03:14] <fester> Hi all, Ubuntu auto updated itself and installed a new kernel. Now my wireless and nvidia don't work with new kernel. How do i get the modules "yupgraded" to the newer version ?
[03:14] <killian> deFrysk: that file is now changed to the standard breezy
[03:14] <kemik> Jack_B:  what cpu you got? 128mb of ram isnt much
[03:14] <brenner> Jack_B: you running gnome?
[03:14] <killian> deFrysk: maybe i need to resync ?
[03:14] <bzimage> Jack_B, first of all.. linux reserves memory infront
[03:14] <deFrysk> killian, I want to see it anyway ;p
[03:14] <kemik> Jack_B:  i'd recommend XFCE or IceWM for such an undersized system
[03:14] <killian> deFrysk: :D
[03:14] <Jack_B> im running gnome
[03:15] <Jack_B> i got a p3 733
[03:15] <fester> yJack_B - IGNORE memory usred in TOP - it includes cache memory
[03:15] <killian> deFrysk: pritty hard trough console ....
[03:15] <kemik> Jack_B:  256mb of memory would be a good upgrade (and 256mb is dirtcheap... )
[03:15] <Jack_B> yeh kemik
[03:15] <brenner> Jack_B: yeah....the two recommended DEs might be better for your specs
[03:15] <killian> deFrysk: i'll msg youy
[03:15] <deFrysk> oke
[03:16] <fester> How do I ugrade my modules to a newer version kernel ?
[03:16] <d2dchat> heh i found terminal
[03:16] <JustinHH> bv
[03:16] <d2dchat> it was under accessories?
[03:16] <d2dchat> lol
[03:16] <JustinHH> :D
[03:16] <d2dchat> but no root terminal
[03:16] <Dintuit> hello
[03:16] <kemik> d2dchat:  well "sudo -i" in a terminal and there you go
[03:16] <brenner> heh...OT: does RAM help with HDD access?  this lappy only has a 4200RPM...bootup and other things seem quite slow....i'm not sure if it's the HDD or my measly 256Mb of RAM that's the problem...
[03:16] <killian> deFrysk: if evrything went right, i should have messaged you my sources.list
[03:17] <d2dchat> kemik, ty:)
[03:17] <kemik> brenner:  well. yes and no
[03:17] <fester> 256mb of RAM ? lol ...
[03:17] <roman> no
[03:17] <kemik> brenner:  it will allow your system to load less often from HDD, but it wont speed up HDD access
[03:17] <Dintuit> glxgears does'nt run on my ubuntu
[03:17] <brownie17> i have 700mg of ram :)
[03:17] <brenner> fester: i know...i'm upgrading this weekend though. :)
[03:17] <Dintuit> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:17] <Dintuit> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[03:17] <funkyHat> are the admin and lib sections on the ubuntu installer CD?
[03:17] <brenner> kemik: but general application loading etc. whould be faster?
[03:18] <JustinHH> is a dvb card refer also to a tv-tuner?
[03:18] <kemik> brenner:  well, not while it access the HD, but once it's loaded in mem it wont have to load as often
[03:18] <bob832> fester:  kind of new to the linux but from what i have read, i think you have to reinstall the modules . . .someone please correct me if i am wrong
[03:18] <hutgyrr> is there anyway to see a progress status on the making of a tarball from the command line?
[03:18] <kemik> (load as often from HDD, and that will be a nice speedup... )
[03:18] <brenner> kemik: righto..thanks for the info
[03:18] <deFrysk> killian, optherwise put it in #flood
[03:19] <brenner> hutgyrr: use verbose mode
[03:19] <Dintuit> i seems i have all the libs i can think of and i have no broken dependencies: "i think" so? this is in breezy buy the way nvidia 420 GO
[03:19] <fester> thx bob832. I guessed Ubuntu would have done this for me. Seems pretty dumb t9o install a new kernel, makje it default and then have no wireless or X connection
[03:19] <kemik> fester:  im not really sure, but maybe 'insmod module' would load it
[03:19] <icewt> ompaul, ah, it finished. thank you very much :)
[03:19] <bob832> true
[03:20] <kemik> fester:  i'd try "insmod"
[03:20] <fester> I suppose i could force it but... bugger it.. I'll stay at the old kernel.. it nworks..
[03:20] <Dintuit> laptops rule! :0
[03:20] <fester> Ok, I'll reboot to old kernel and retry.. think it would be automatic... grumble...
[03:21] <kemik> fester:  why not try insmod ? it will load modules into the current kernel
[03:21] <kemik> or modprobe
[03:22] <fester> OK, I'll try them.. I know the nvidia module name :-) but not sure of the wireless card. there are 4 I think. Probelm is.. will I need to do this every time I boot ?
[03:22] <ompaul> Icewt np
[03:22] <bob832> fester:  sorry, couldn't tell ya
[03:23] <infinito_away> does anyone know a client for msn messenger with video/audio support?
[03:23] <killian> infinito: wine :p (half kidding)
[03:23] <kemik> infinito:  i heard "amsn" might have it.. but im not sure
[03:23] <infinito> kemik: i tried ams cvs version and doesnt work ok
[03:23] <ompaul> icewt, you will need a kdelib to make that work (thanks to skype building it the way they did)
[03:24] <Mpmc> when is the new version of ubuntu out?
[03:24] <ompaul> 13 oct
[03:24] <icewt> ompaul, yes. i had that version, but then i removed it, and after a while wanted to install skype back, but the latest version wouldn't install anymore.
[03:24] <ompaul> ahh
[03:25] <JustinHH> i can play mp3-files with music player but i can't play them with xmms! why?
[03:25] <Mpmc> you need the plugub for it
[03:25] <avalost> JustinHH, have the correct driver selected?
[03:25] <JustinHH> i can play mp3-files with music player(rhytmboxn't play them with xmms! why?
[03:25] <Mpmc> plgin
[03:25] <smott> after i edit grub's menu.lst, am i expected to run any command to update grub or will it just work?
[03:25] <Mpmc> JustinHH: You need to download a plugin
[03:26] <JustinHH> aham
[03:26] <cyberixae> Is there graphwiz for Ubuntu?
[03:26] <Mpmc> !info ubuntuguide
[03:26] <deFrysk> !tell JustinHH about mp3
[03:26] <cyberixae> Or maybe a better alternative?
[03:27] <JustinHH> i know about the restricted formats
[03:27] <Mpmc> JustinHH: I play MP3's fine on XMMS
[03:27] <slept> Is anyone familliar with openoffice, I need to know how to do a "linear fit" for some Points in a Diagramm, but I can't find it. I know this is of topic but I'm in a hurry to get the protocol done. So please msg me if you know how to do that
[03:27] <JustinHH> but how can i cat a plugin for xmms
[03:28] <JustinHH> it doesnt apear in the plugin area from xmms
[03:28] <deFrysk> xmms-mad JustinHH
[03:28] <deFrysk> intall that
[03:29] <bob832> last night, i successfully changed the volumn control up by the clock to change the PCM volume, however, my volume keys on the keyboard still change master - is there a way to change the keys too?
[03:29] <JustinHH> ok
[03:31] <JustinHH> i have installed xmms-mad but xmms still stops responding
[03:31] <deFrysk> JustinHH, restart xmms
[03:31] <killian> how do i resolve depencie errors ?
[03:31] <boxedman> Hi all
[03:31] <atha> JustinHH: have you tried different output plugins?
[03:31] <deFrysk> killian, by having the proper repositories
[03:31] <boxedman> I was wondering, can ubuntu be installed from the liveCD?
[03:31] <JustinHH> no
[03:32] <boxedman> ah, ok
[03:32] <deFrysk> JustinHH, what are you trying to play ?
[03:32] <JustinHH> its working
[03:32] <mahangu`afk> how can i kill a dir and all the file sin it?
[03:32] <killian> deFrysk: well they are right remember ...
[03:32] <JustinHH> it was the output plugin
[03:32] <deFrysk> JustinHH, thats what I thought ;)
[03:32] <deFrysk> esd for gnome
[03:32] <atha> I think I had the same problem earlier - xmms just froze
[03:33] <deFrysk> arts for kde
[03:33] <deFrysk> killian, prove it and put them in #flood
[03:33] <deFrysk> killian, still havent seen them
[03:34] <killian> deFrysk: ow
[03:34] <killian> deFrysk: aa you mean, i see nothing, as in no text :D
[03:34] <deFrysk> killian, exactly
[03:34] <deFrysk> killian, I want your sources.list ;p
[03:34] <JustinHH> is there any programs and drivers for my tv-tuner?
[03:35] <killian> deFrysk: i thouged you meant, i see no problems :D
[03:35] <fredforfaen> !breezy
[03:35] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:35] <deFrysk> killian, I see nothing :D
[03:35] <killian> deFrysk: i did /exec cat /etc/apt/sources.list, what did i do rogn ?
[03:35] <deFrysk> killian, nothing, but I dont see them
[03:36] <deFrysk> killian, go to #flood and I'll show you mine to compare ok ?
[03:36] <killian> deFrysk: id rather learn how to use exec :D
[03:37] <deFrysk> killian, practice in #flood
[03:37] <JustinHH> is there any programs and drivers avaialble for my tv-tuner?
[03:37] <killian> deFrysk: :D
[03:37] <mahangu`afk> how can i kill a dir and all the file sin it?
[03:37] <avalost> hmm, anyone know of e17 packages for breezy?
[03:37] <kemik> mahangu`afk:  rm -rf dir
[03:37] <kemik> mahangu`afk:  rm -rf DIRNAME
[03:37] <JustinHH> deFrysk, :  is there any programs and drivers avaialble for my tv-tuner?
[03:37] <fredforfaen> if i upgrade to breezu via apt will it install a new kernel?
[03:38] <fredforfaen> *breezy
[03:38] <cat> fredforfaen: well if you want
[03:38] <atha> yes
[03:38] <DarkOrigin> When I'm doing 'fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin' (official file downloaded from java.sun.com) in order to create a .deb package for it it loads some plugins, but then tells me that none of those match what I'm trying to do.. Can someone tell me how I can install java SDK 1.5 then?
[03:38] <Balu> hello everyone
[03:38] <JustinHH> hey balu
[03:38] <fredforfaen> what about my nvidia driver , will that be affected?
[03:38] <DarkOrigin> Should I just copy it somewhere and change the PATH variable ?
[03:38] <kemik> !tell DarkOrigin about java
[03:38] <cat> fredforfaen: not really
[03:38] <cat> DarkOrigin: did u do chmod a+x bin.?
[03:39] <DarkOrigin> ye
[03:39] <fredforfaen> cat so x should work with nvidia even after upgrade then.....
[03:39] <DarkOrigin> thanks kemik, I'll test the link.
[03:39] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  see pm
[03:39] <cat> yes it should fredforfaen
[03:39] <Balu> I'm fiddling around with my cd-burner for a while now, but cdrecord won't recognize it as a burner :(
[03:39] <cat> fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[03:39] <DarkOrigin> pm? From the bot, or from you? Because I can only see one from the bot..
[03:39] <cat> did u do that DarkOrigin ?
[03:39] <Balu> It lists "Supported modes: " (empty)
[03:39] <Balu> any idea?
[03:39] <fredforfaen> what about the kernel i want a new kernel but then i have to install the nvidia driver one more time , dont i?
[03:39] <DarkOrigin> cat: no, it's the jdk , not the jre.
[03:39] <avalost> !e17
[03:39] <ubotu> avalost: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:40] <cat> bla
[03:40] <joel__> how do I get mpg files to play? Is there a certain program I need?
[03:40] <avalost> ubotu, e17 is the next generation enlightenment www.enlightenment.org or www.rasterman.com
[03:40] <ubotu> okay, avalost
[03:40] <DarkOrigin> 'fakeroot make-jpkg jdk-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin' <-- that was what I did
[03:40] <DarkOrigin> after setting it a+x of course.
[03:40] <avalost> !e17
[03:40] <ubotu> from memory, e17 is the next generation enlightenment http://www.enlightenment.org or http://www.rasterman.com
[03:40] <cat> ok and u got an error?
[03:40] <Pickle_Weasel> !tell joel__  about w32codecs
[03:40] <slept> joel__, codecs and a player
[03:40] <Balu> !cdrecord
[03:40] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Balu
[03:41] <joel__> Can you tell me where to get those codecs?
[03:41] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, you dont need to set it +x if you use make-jpkg
[03:41] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  the one from bot
[03:41] <DarkOrigin> cat: I got the error that there were no matching plugins found.
[03:41] <JustinHH>  !tell hustinhh about w32codecs
[03:41] <cat> oh
[03:41] <JustinHH>  !tell justinhh about w32codecs
[03:41] <fredforfaen> can i do the breezy upgrade from X (Gnome)?
[03:41] <DarkOrigin> okay, kemik that link is still connecting ... I think the server doesn't respond.
[03:41] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, your java-package deb is too old. using hoary?
[03:42] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  well if it's the jdk, all you need todo is ./binfile
[03:42] <DarkOrigin> using colony-5
[03:42] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  and set your path to the directory were javac is located
[03:42] <ubuntu> Hello everybody :)
[03:42] <DarkOrigin> kemik: and install it somewhere and change PATH variable - right?
[03:42] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, i tried that 2 days ago and it worked
[03:42] <cat> hello ubuntu
[03:42] <DarkOrigin> Yea, where is the file that holds the global PATH then?
[03:42] <JustinHH> does tv-tuners work under linux?
[03:42] <DarkOrigin> hmm, not working for me chrissturm ...
[03:42] <cat> JustinHH: yes why
[03:42] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  i've done it in my ~/.bashrc
[03:42] <chrissturm> make-jpkg <path_to_bin_file>
[03:42] <mahangu`afk> can i get ubuntu to work across two monitors?
[03:43] <JustinHH> i want to use my tv-tuner
[03:43] <DarkOrigin> kemik: I'd like it for all users, not only the one I'm on at the moment.
[03:43] <avalost> ubotu, forget e17
[03:43] <ubotu> avalost: i forgot e17
[03:43] <kemik> DarkOrigin:   PATH=/usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/:"${PATH}"   <- add that line to .bashrc
[03:43] <DarkOrigin> So I ned the global..
[03:43] <JustinHH> cat, : and i don't know what i must get to get it working
[03:43] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  ok.. well i think its in /etc/ somewhere :)
[03:43] <ubuntu> I don't know
[03:43] <avalost> ubotu, e17 is the next generation enlightenment www.enlightenment.org or www.rasterman.com, www.get-e.org or www.edevelop.org
[03:43] <ubotu> avalost: okay
[03:43] <DarkOrigin> chrissturm: yea, that's what I did as well (in the same dir as the .bin tho), but it tells me it needs a plugin.
[03:43] <ccooke> mahangu`afk: yes. How easy it is really depends on your graphics setup
[03:43] <ccooke> mahangu`afk: I'm doing it now - it's very easy with the latest ATI drivers
[03:43] <DarkOrigin> kemik: yea... but where ;) I'm originally from gentoo, and I'm pretty confused :-)
[03:44] <XHK> How can i set up adsl connection in ubuntu? I installed RP-PPPoE, like ubuntunguide told me to do, everything went well, but if i wanna connect, it will timeout.
[03:44] <JustinHH> cat, : and i don't know what i must do to get the tv-tuner  working
[03:44] <ccooke> JustinHH: tv tuners? My home TV is running through mythtv right now under ubuntu. And I can't recommend mythtv enough
[03:44] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  not sure.. if you put it in /etc/skel/.bashrc all users you create from now wil hae it in their path
[03:45] <XHK> If someone knows, plz tell how can i set up asdl connection.
[03:45] <JustinHH> ccooke, why?
[03:45] <mahangu`afk> ccooke, where do i set it up?
[03:45] <JustinHH> ccooke, isn't it working well?
[03:45] <DarkOrigin> yea, that's just not good enough.. I'd like it to be in the global - not in the bashrc of every user from now on.. I might as well do it right from the beginning, instead of doing small hacks every time I find something I dislike a bit.
[03:45] <secureboot> anyone know of a good guide on how to dual boot mac os x and ubuntu?
[03:45] <ccooke> JustinHH: it works beuatifully.
[03:45] <ccooke> JustinHH: really great system
[03:46] <ccooke> mahangu`afk: what's your graphics setup, please?
[03:46] <DarkOrigin> chrissturm: are you sure you did it with the JDK of 1.5 ?
[03:46] <XHK> If someone knows, plz tell how can i set up asdl connection.
[03:46] <chrissturm> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:46] <DarkOrigin> weird.. what version of fakeroot do you have ?
[03:46] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, i can send you the deb i created
[03:46] <DarkOrigin> I would absolutely adore you if you did.
[03:47] <bobbobbob> how do I install w32 codecs
[03:47] <Robinho_Peixoto> bobbobbob:  www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:47] <XHK> How can i set up adsl connection in ubuntu? I installed RP-PPPoE, like ubuntunguide told me to do, everything went well, but if i wanna connect, it will timeout.
[03:47] <Balu> !tell bobbobbob about w32codecs
[03:47] <JustinHH>  !tell justinhh .deb
[03:47] <mahangu`afk> ccooke, where can i found out?
[03:47] <killian> back at ubunutu :)
[03:47] <killian> did all that :D
[03:48] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, look here: http://rafb.net/paste/results/RK5Clb56.html
[03:48] <deFrysk> !tell Robinho_Peixoto about ubuntuguide
[03:48] <JustinHH>  !tell justinhh deb
[03:48] <XHK> If someone knows, plz tell how can i set up asdl connection.
[03:48] <DarkOrigin> thanks chrissturm
[03:48] <killian> deFrysk: ok thanks i'm on track again :p
[03:48] <deFrysk> !ubuntuguide
[03:48] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:48] <killian> deFrysk: best course is a crash course :p
[03:48] <JustinHH> can somebody explain about deb files?
[03:48] <XHK> If someone knows, plz tell how can i set up adsl connection.
[03:48] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, its just the output of make-jpkg on my system
[03:48] <deFrysk> killian, for sure :D
[03:48] <killian> deFrysk: you learn a lot on those
[03:48] <chrissturm> what version of java-package do you have?
[03:49] <wrabbit01> Can somebody help me out... I was hoping to follow these instructions.... http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories but they are for hoary.  I'm using breezy.  Does it matter or is there a way to convert to hoary?
[03:49] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, what version of java-package do you have?
[03:49] <DarkOrigin> chrissturm: Okay.. Let me show you mine ;-)
[03:49] <DarkOrigin> don't know, the one from this morning..
[03:49] <ccooke> mahangu`afk: Do you know what your video card is?
[03:49] <XHK> How can i set up adsl connection in ubuntu? I installed RP-PPPoE, like ubuntunguide told me to do, everything went well, but if i wanna connect, it will timeout.
[03:49] <deFrysk> !tell wrabbit01 about ubuntuguide
[03:49] <DarkOrigin> I'm using the preview of ubuntu (colony-5)
[03:49] <atha> XHK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[03:49] <XHK> ty
[03:50] <wrabbit01> thanks deFrysk
[03:50] <kemik> DarkOrigin:  if you find where the globalsetting is, please feel free to PM me the info :)
[03:50] <mahangu`afk> *find out
[03:50] <killian> deFrysk: ok seems to be installed now :p
[03:50] <deFrysk> killian, cool ;p
[03:50] <killian> deFrysk: back to the orignial problem :p no sound and video :D
[03:50] <wrabbit01> !faq
[03:50] <ubotu> it has been said that faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[03:50] <deFrysk> killian, complete upgrade is done ?
[03:50] <killian> deFrysk: seems to me yes
[03:50] <DarkOrigin> http://rafb.net/paste/results/xue0Rk65.html -- that's my output.
[03:51] <killian> deFrysk: no errors so
[03:51] <deFrysk> killian, then reboot
[03:51] <DarkOrigin> kemik: I will..
[03:51] <killian> deFrysk: o wait , fergot one
[03:51] <killian> deFrysk: the after update thing
[03:51] <deFrysk> killian, ooh ;p
[03:51] <DarkOrigin> wait a second..
[03:51] <ccooke> mahangu`afk: what is your computer? Is it new? Old?
[03:52] <deFrysk> killian, is it an on board soundcard ?
[03:52] <chrissturm> DarkOrigin, i have version 0.26 of java-package installed
[03:52] <DarkOrigin> http://rafb.net/paste/results/PhRskR56.html -- chrissturm that's what my package tells me..
[03:52] <DarkOrigin> hmm, weird.. I wonder why my doesn't update ..
[03:52] <killian> deFrysk: yes :p
[03:53] <deFrysk> killian, dist-upgrade is done now correct ?
[03:53] <bobbobbob> I am trying to install realplayer but when I type in the command line it just says could not find package.  This is true for everything I try to install and the ubuntu guide does not tell me where i can find the packages.
[03:53] <killian> deFrysk: i won't be rebooting i'll be going to runlevel 0 and back up (kernel is already running)
[03:53] <killian> deFrysk: yes
[03:54] <deFrysk> killian, first open alsamixer
[03:54] <deFrysk> does it work ?
[03:54] <richard> hi @ all!
[03:54] <cat> richard: hi
[03:54] <deFrysk> <-not all
[03:54] <MachineScrew> hibernation works yay
[03:54] <killian> deFrysk: nope, he doesn't find a soundcard, but i'm familiar with resolving these kinds of errors (gentoo), question will be how do i add hardware modules without downloading the kernel-sources
[03:55] <bobbobbob> how the fuck do I install realplayer or any other player that supports mpg files for that matter
[03:55] <deFrysk> killian, modprobe <module>
[03:55] <killian> deFrysk: going to go to runlevel 0 and back now first
[03:55] <deFrysk> ok
[03:55] <killian> deFrysk if i still remember how  :D
[03:55] <deFrysk> lol
[03:55] <cat> bobbobbob: apt-get install realplayer
[03:55] <MachineScrew> get the horay-backports-staging and get gstreamer-plugins-multiverse
[03:56] <bobbobbob> cat: I tried that, it says it cannot find package realplayer
[03:56] <MachineScrew> also apt-get install mplayer
[03:56] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: oeps :D
[03:57] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: runlevel 0 = shutdown :p
[03:57] <kemik> bobbobbob:  you have to enable the universe/multiverse repositories
[03:57] <deFrysk> hey Qantourisc
[03:57] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: o well :p
[03:57] <deFrysk> lol
[03:57] <kemik> !tell bobbobbob about repositories
[03:57] <bobbobbob> kemik: and how exactly do I do that?
[03:57] <MachineScrew> bobbobbobbob: get the horay-backports-staging and get gstreamer-plugins-multiverse
[03:57] <kemik> MachineScrew:  not everyone thinks backports should be suggested
[03:57] <cantrel29> anyone tell me how I can stop mysql?
[03:57] <MachineScrew> bobbobbobbob: get the horay-extras-staging
[03:58] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, still no sound ?
[03:58] <bob832> i just changed my resolution to 1680x1050 and on the right side of my screen, there is a section of black lines - the monitor is an LCD screen, how can i get rid of the lines?
[03:58] <MachineScrew> I sugest what works
[03:58] <MachineScrew> they work
[03:58] <cantrel29> I assume that mysql runs under initd
[03:58] <kemik> backports recently crashed alot of users firefox
[03:58] <ccooke> indeed.
[03:59] <deFrysk> backb0rks
[03:59] <kemik> oh.. did he get upset ?
[03:59] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: my paranio dad has a password evrywhere .... so for each reboot i need his password ....
[03:59] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, you want me to give you his pwd ?
[03:59] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, lemme hack
[03:59] <kemik> Qantourisc:  tell him you've found the pr0n, and there's no need to use passwords anylonger
[03:59] <deFrysk> ;p
[04:00] <Qantourisc> kemik: LOL
[04:00] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: its a lock on the harddrive :p not really hackable :p
[04:00] <n00bster> helow, my first time on irc, how can i get the full channel list?
[04:00] <kemik> n00bster:  /list
[04:00] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, would you also please check is the onboard sound is enables an p&p is off in the bios (making sure)
[04:01] <n00bster> wher do i type this?
[04:01] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: should be :D
[04:01] <_jason> n00bster:  anywhere
[04:01] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, should yes , knowing is better
[04:01] <n00bster> ok, tank you
[04:01] <_jason> n00bster:  it will show up in the first window you have "Ubuntu Servers"
[04:01] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: i can seethat wit hlspci
[04:02] <n00bster> ok, ty. :)
[04:02] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, ok
[04:02] <dpro\> ahh, nice got ubuntu running nice and sweet, but howcome when i try installing w32codecs it says that the package doesnt exist? i have added more sources
[04:03] <stjepan> hello
[04:03] <stjepan> where is ubuntu's kernel config?
[04:03] <n00bster> well, a sidebar hase opend, but there is no content in ti, what shuld i do?
[04:03] <ccooke> stjepan: /boot/config-kernelname
[04:04] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: its disabled oright, or it's the unknown device
[04:04] <stjepan> ccooke: tnx
[04:04] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: but i want to focus on the va
[04:04] <ccooke> for instance, my running kernel (from breezy) has its config in /boot/config-2.6.12-9-686
[04:05] <n00bster> abiut channels:  a sidebar hase opend, but there is no content in ti, what shuld i do?
[04:05] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: vesa, it's not a perfect solution :D
[04:05] <n00bster> about*
[04:05] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, what vid-card ?
[04:06] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: no matter it works now :p new kernel did the trick :D
[04:06] <deFrysk> :D
[04:06] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, breezy rules
[04:06] <deFrysk> ;p
[04:06] <flankk> Anyone know of a password manager for Gnome, something like kwallet?
[04:07] <Qantourisc> deFrysk: hehe ;D
[04:07] <mahangu`afk> ccooke, it's a thinkpad r50e
[04:07] <blekos> hi ppl :)
[04:07] <JustinHH> the image on tvtime is black&white. there is also no soun :( (the sound cable is from the tv-tuner is conected to the pc over aux)
[04:07] <flankk> ^^
[04:07] <deFrysk> Qantourisc, anything k i dont like exept kernel and a few other things of course
[04:07] <ccooke> mahangu`afk: okay. Give me a moment, I'll see if I Can find the spec.
[04:08] <ThaTsThEWay> hello @ all
[04:08] <blekos> hi
[04:08] <flankk> deFrysk, how about a gtk+ version, rather than just bashing K*..
[04:08] <ThaTsThEWay> i'm new here
[04:08] <cat> we all are
[04:08] <ccooke> mahangu`afk: ah, right. Intel graphics. I've never had one of those, so I can't really help you