 o/
[07:07] <acheronuk> Morning
[07:08] <acheronuk> Why does this not exist? http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_stable_kio/ or http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_kio/
[07:09] <acheronuk> same for some other basic things early in the build chain for 'stable'
[07:11] <acheronuk> then get things in KCI like baloo failing to build in stable as build-deps can't be met
[07:35] <acheronuk> Daily ISO seems installable again LP: 1587555 & LP: 1577540
[07:47] <yofel> acheronuk: there is no "stable" for frameworks because they don't get any bugfix releases
[07:48] <yofel> nobody of use seems to get how they get copied from unstable though
[07:52] <acheronuk> so kio here https://launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stable/+packages?field.name_filter=kio&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=
[07:52] <vip> hi ho
[07:53] <vip> any way to dpg -i some bleeding edge kmail package?
[07:53] <vip> I'm starting to hate current kmail version :-(
[07:54] <acheronuk> yofel: is destined to stay at 5.19 for xenial and absent from yakkety, and instead depend on whatever point release goes into the main archive instead?
[07:54] <yofel> acheronuk: no, CI should be using CI packages - that doesn't seem to work though
[07:54] <acheronuk> "yofel> nobody of use seems to get how they get copied from unstable though" I'm trying to
[07:55] <yofel> OTOH, for stable the regular packages might make sense...
[07:55] <yofel> sitter: what was the intention here? ^
[07:55] <acheronuk> yes, I was going back and forth between the 2 in my mind
[07:56] <acheronuk> as said, I noticed a fait amount reasonable early on in the build chain was failing with dep issues
[07:56] <acheronuk> *fair
[08:00] <acheronuk> and found there were not jobs/tasks (or whatever term KCI uses) for some of those deps
[08:12] <sitter> yofel: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kio/32/console -> "15:29:49 Not doing a package copy because the component is not "frameworks" nor is the name whitelisted ["qca-qt5", "qapt", "debconf-kde"]"
[08:12] <yofel> aaaaaaah
[08:12] <yofel> thanks
[08:12] <sitter> a selection of unstable builds are copied from unstable into stable upon success
[08:12] <sitter> notibly the ones without a stable version
[08:13] <yofel> and component depends on the namespace?
[09:42] <clivejo> sitter: <yofel> and component depends on the namespace?
[09:43] <sitter> I don't know what a namespace is
[09:43] <sitter> component is the release package a thing is in, which loosely translates to the directory of the repo on git.debian
[09:44] <sitter> s/package/set
[09:48] <yofel> sitter: yes, I meant the repo directory
[09:49] <clivejo> that explains a few things :)
[09:50] <clivejo> sitter: can they be classifed within Jenkins rather that picking it up from the dir on Debian git?
[09:54] <sitter> I don't see how you would do that in jenkins given jenkins is a passive actor WRT job construction. but sure, with sufficient amounts of code you can do anything
[10:04] <clivejo> holy cow
[10:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:55] <yofel> actually...
[11:56] <yofel> isn't the component specification also stored in kdesrc-metadata or however that's called?
[11:56] <yofel> I really wonder why we're not using that at all
[11:57] <yofel> clivejo: out of curiosity: did you manage to register for the eu referendum? ^^
[13:22] <shadeslayer> does anyone remember the kde-l10n script we used to packge the l10n stuffs?
[13:24] <shadeslayer> ah nvm
[14:04] <clivejo> yofel: manage to register?
[14:07] <yofel> clivejo: just read an article about how the registration website for being able to vote didn't work 2 days ago or so. But that seemed more about generally unregistered people
[14:07] <acheronuk> if you were already on the electoral role there was no need
[14:08] <acheronuk> *roll
[14:10] <clivejo> yeah, doesn’t surprise me with eGov services, but I’m already on the electoral roll
[14:10] <acheronuk> "Users reported a page displaying the message "504 Gateway Time-out" instead of the online registration form."
[14:12] <clivejo> LOL I was getting that trying to do my self assessment
[14:13] <clivejo> but then I do tend to leave it to the last minute
 o/
[15:25] <acheronuk> hmm. daily iso still has plasma-desktop 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1 http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/yakkety-desktop-amd64.manifest
[15:26] <clivejo> thats weird
[15:27] <acheronuk> 5.6.4 still in proposed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/
[15:33]  * clivejo rolls eyes
[15:38] <acheronuk> kactivities blocking it? I can't recall to be honest
[16:02] <acheronuk> clivejo: enabling proposed http://paste.ubuntu.com/17174183/
[17:13] <soee> http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-foldable-phones-coming-soon-697791/
[17:13] <soee> i have this feeling it will be like a to hot candy bar in the pocked :)
[17:15] <acheronuk> sounds about as good an idea as 'wobbly windows'
[19:33] <clivejo> anyone dev'ing/hacking?
[19:35] <yofel> playing with containers using one eye, watching soccer with the other :P
[19:35] <clivejo> thats multitasking!
[19:39] <clivejo> has anyone else tested apps 16.04.1
 Waiting for backports ;)
[19:40] <clivejo> push the button Marcin
 You can do it! :D
[19:45] <clivejo> I cant
 Have faith :)
[19:45] <clivejo> its against my religion
 Having faith in own skills?
[19:46] <clivejo> look and plan to the future
[19:46] <clivejo> learn from the past
[19:47] <clivejo> 16.04 is past, 16.10 is future
[20:01] <acheronuk> keep seeing 'package-must-activate-ldconfig-trigger' on KCI failures, and for a lot are listed as overridden here https://lintian.debian.org/tags/package-must-activate-ldconfig-trigger.html
[20:02] <acheronuk> and neo has overrides
[20:02] <acheronuk> *neon
[20:03] <clivejo> I wonder can those be actually fixed somehow
[20:04] <acheronuk> other than adding a lintian override you mean?
[20:05] <clivejo> yeah, it must be warning for something
[20:07] <acheronuk> sgclark's comment https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kded/5.22.0-0ubuntu1
[20:08] <clivejo> yeah we can override it, but Debian warns for a reason
[20:09] <acheronuk> many which they override, so obviously consider spurious or not worth fixing
[20:11] <sgclark> ?
[20:12] <acheronuk> sorry, I just referred clive to a comment you made on lintian overrides, and used your IRC name without thinking
[20:12] <sgclark> clivejo: acheronuk if those are about kdeinit* overrides, nothing can fix, those are very special as sitter put it
[20:13] <sgclark> no worries
[20:13] <clivejo> very special
[20:13] <yofel> I think the point is that they're actually plugins for kdeinit, so get explicitely loaded without having to be in the so cache
[20:15] <acheronuk> clivejo: point was neon have put them in for things like http://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/plasma/kactivitymanagerd.git/tree/debian/kactivitymanagerd.lintian-overrides
[20:16] <acheronuk> but I don't have the rationale behind such a decisionhttp://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/plasma/kactivitymanagerd.git/tree/debian/kactivitymanagerd.lintian-overrides
[20:17] <acheronuk> even ones like Kcalc are filing on them http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kcalc/37/parsed_console/
[20:17] <acheronuk> *failing
[20:19] <acheronuk> neon again overrides http://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/applications/kcalc.git/tree/debian/kcalc.lintian-overrides
[20:19] <clivejo> acheronuk: feel free to submit merge requests to fix them :)
[20:23] <yofel> acheronuk: the system has a library cache so libs can be loaded fast when needed. Normal libs that are properly versioned etc. get recognised as such and dpkg automatically adds that trigger.
[20:24] <yofel> There here are plugins for plasma though, and don't get properly recognised as libs - as they are not proper libs
[20:24] <clivejo> non proper libs
[20:24] <yofel> IMO these files should not be in the public library path - which would solve the issue as dpkg wouldn't care about them. But nobody upsteam seems to care
[20:26] <acheronuk> so that is lintian is warning that "this may not be recognised"?
[20:27] <yofel> yep. But in our case it doesn't matter
[20:28] <yofel> just an annoying false positive
[20:28] <acheronuk> so from what yopu say should be overidden for these ones?
[20:28] <yofel> yes
[20:28] <acheronuk> yes got that. I was slower typing than you
[20:28] <yofel> ^^
[20:29] <acheronuk> great. if I understand the logic of the override in this case, that makes me happier
[20:32] <acheronuk> clivejo: yes, I can go over likely candidates tomorrow and sort changes/merges for them
[20:34]  * acheronuk is tired
[20:34] <clivejo> rough day?
[20:36] <acheronuk> not really. just think not quite enough sleep with warm/humid nights eventually catches up with you
[20:36] <acheronuk> weekend will set it right I'm sure
[20:36] <clivejo> yeah this weather is draining
[20:40] <clivejo> KCI seems to be very slow today
[20:40] <clivejo> still 200 packages in the queue
[20:43] <acheronuk> plenty to do without
[20:49] <Sput> sitter, ScottK: would you guys object against moving the man page you have written for kubuntu into our repo proper?
[20:49] <Sput> I mean it's GPLv2+, but it's fair to ask anyway :)
[20:52] <ScottK> Sput: please do
[20:54] <Sput> ScottK: thx!
[21:03] <clivejo> what man page?
[21:04] <yofel> quassel I assume
[21:08] <clivejo> ah
[21:10] <acheronuk> urgh. if I need something to finish off sending me to sleep, the debian policy manual looks an excellent candidate
[21:16] <clivejo> yofel: as a temp measure could we kopy frameworks from unstable to stable PPA?
[21:53] <jimarvan> helloz :D
[21:53] <jimarvan> anything exciting?
 Hey there jimarvan
 I'm just chillin mostly
[23:09] <jimarvan> gn! ;)


[22:10] <truefaith> yo what's the problem bro
[22:10] <truefaith> why did I get +m ?
[22:11] <DJones> truefaith: #ubuntu is a support channel, you've been asked not to troll
[22:11] <truefaith> I didn't troll
[22:11] <truefaith> I was chatting with the bot
[22:11] <truefaith> I swear I don't even know what a troll is
[22:11] <DJones> Exactly, #ubuntu is a support channel, not a chat channel
[22:11] <truefaith> I just feel lonely bro.. you got to understand..
[22:12] <DJones> If you want general chat, please use #ubuntu-offtopic instead
[22:12] <DJones> That still has rules, but its is better for chatting
[22:12] <truefaith> oh, it wasn't in the title, sorry bro DJones
[22:12] <truefaith> ?
[22:12] <truefaith> Can I get -m
[22:12] <DJones> Yes, you're back in the channel already
[22:13] <truefaith> thanks bro, wish I could give you a hug
[22:13] <truefaith> merry christmas bro
[22:13] <truefaith> merry christmas.


[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:09] <RikMills> mamarley: auto-sync never actually got turned on
 https://twitter.com/sylvia_ritter/status/1518976327931604992
 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/introducing-early-access-to-the-steam-snap/28082
[14:58] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: At least we've finally narrowed-down the kdesu issue.
[14:59] <Eickmeyer> But the upstream bug seems to be getting no attention.
[14:59] <RikMills> if it is something specific to jammy, there are probably silent "huh, works for me" going on
[15:00] <Eickmeyer> Maybe Neon silently fixed the problem?
[15:01] <RikMills> not that I can see
[15:01] <RikMills> I will try to look deeper after the holiday weekend
[15:01] <Eickmeyer> Ok.
[15:02] <Eickmeyer> UNRELATED
[15:02] <Eickmeyer> Plymouth: How would you like me to proceed with uploading the theme fix? I can do K first then SRU J?
[15:03] <RikMills> I would prefer that. Also the pulse of the logo seems much quicker than the old one
[15:03] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, that's because it's 30 frames as opposed to 64, I had to manually create the pulse.
[15:04] <Eickmeyer> The parent theme is looking for a 30-frame loop.
[15:04] <RikMills> ok, fair enough
[15:05] <Eickmeyer> Ok, then next question: Do you have a git repo you want this pushed to first?
[15:10] <RikMills> Eickmeyer: if you have commit access to https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kubuntu-settings
[15:10] <RikMills> I think you do
[15:11] <Eickmeyer> Looks like I do as a member of Ninjas.
[15:13] <RikMills> ah, yes
[15:16] <Eickmeyer> I'll get to it later this morning my time, early this evening your time.
[15:23] <RikMills> ok, I might not make any action to morning my time
[15:26] <Eickmeyer> Probably, especially the way the builders are going.
[16:27] <RikMills> Eickmeyer: especially if jbicha keeps pretending to be the auto-sync bot, and DOSing the limited amd64 capacity we do have
[16:27]  * RikMills rolls eyes
[16:32] <Eickmeyer> RikMills: Ew.
[16:34] <Eickmeyer> Well, I can nudge cjwatson to give some more priority for builds if need-be.
[16:36] <RikMills> or I could land it via bileto, which outscores any archive build ;)
[16:50] <Eickmeyer> Well, if you can't do it until tomorrow morning, I'm willing to bet the archive builders will beat you. :(
[16:51] <Eickmeyer> s/:(/:)


[06:45] <moodoo> morning all
[07:19] <AlanBell> morning moodoo
[07:27] <MartijnVdS> \o
[07:28] <MartijnVdS> \o/ netflix launched in .nl
[07:29] <dwatkins> congrats, MartijnVdS
[07:43] <diddledan> MartijnVdS: is it a ghost town of really naff stuff like it was in the uk when they first launched it?
[07:45] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: it has Doctor Who
[07:46] <diddledan> \o/
[07:46] <MartijnVdS> and Pixar films
[07:46] <MartijnVdS> and lots of well-known TV shows
[07:47] <MartijnVdS> but yeah, I'd expected more
[07:47] <dwatkins> I've been watching Orange is the New Black recently, and Black Books.
[07:47] <dwatkins> No idea if they're likely to be on Netflix-NL, mind you,
[07:47] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: both are
[07:48] <MartijnVdS> Orange is the new Black is the first thing you see when you log in
[07:48] <dwatkins> No surprise, it's their own series.
[08:37] <JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Hot Cross Bun Day! :-D
[08:38]  * DJones points to Easter being about 5 months thataway ---->
[08:39] <dwatkins> merry summer solstice, JamesTait
[08:40] <JamesTait> DJones, what, we're only allowed to enjoy them at Easter?
[08:41] <moodoo> 15 saturdays left until christmas :p
[08:41] <DJones> JamesTait: I was working on only allowed to punish yourselves with them at easter, horrible things
[08:41] <JamesTait> dwatkins, is it really? Seems a bit early.
[08:42] <JamesTait> DJones, ah, then I can understand your position, even if I disagree with it. ;)
[08:42] <dwatkins> 09:37 < JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Hot Cross Bun Day! :-D
[08:42] <JamesTait> moodoo, SHHHH!
[08:42] <DJones> JamesTait: I don't like sweet things, so that covers anything like that, give me something savoury anyday
[08:43] <JamesTait> dwatkins, OK, I'm with you now.  Coffee hasn't kicked in yet.
[08:59] <dwatkins> ;) I have soup, as I have already had several cups of tea.
[08:59] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:00] <SuperMatt> morning brobostigon
[09:01] <brobostigon> morning SuperMatt
[09:06] <diddledan> is it normal to be working with two laptops and a dual-headed desktop all at the same time? :-p
[09:06] <Monotoko> I have energy drink... have had energy drink since 6 this morning
[09:07] <DJones> Ooh, First ever Doctor who to be broadcast in a restored format
[09:08] <diddledan> Monotoko: I has dietcoke and pepsi max - does that count as NRG drink?
[09:10] <Monotoko> DJones: When? Where?
[09:10] <brobostigon> i just have powerful coffee, that does me fine.
[09:10] <Monotoko> diddledan: I had Monster Ripper saved since I knew I needed to come into the office early...
[09:11] <DJones> Monotoko: Just mentions it on the bbc website http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24038234 Doesn't give a date that I saw
[09:36] <Monotoko> ... I can't believe that worked
[09:37]  * Monotoko blinks at his computer screen
[09:37] <diddledan> o_O
[09:37] <diddledan> was it awesome?
[09:37] <Monotoko> I just had to install vanilla 3.11 in order to upgrade Debian because our crappy hosting provider give their own custom compiled kernel
[09:38] <Monotoko> my solution was so far out there, and I doubted it would work - but it did without a hitch
[09:39] <popey> diddledan: dunno, i have 3 phones, two tablets, two laptops and a desktop on my desk
[09:39] <diddledan> popey: ooh, good idea, airdisplay from my mac to my ipad for another screen! :-p
[09:40] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:41] <Monotoko> 'morning
[09:42] <DJones> popey: Do you have any empty space on the desk?
[09:43]  * dwatkins has pretty much the same as popey - but with two deskphones, two mobiles
[09:43] <diddledan> I've got two mobiles and a deskphone
[09:43] <diddledan> my tablets are elsewhere
[09:43] <DJones> I thought I was bad with 2 desktops, a tablet & a mobile phone
[09:44] <dwatkins> I 'only' have three tablets, as the other two are being used by colleagues, my desk tends to be used as the charging station (we support mobile apps, too)
[09:47] <Monotoko> I have a movile... a tablet, and a desktop
[09:47] <Monotoko> *mobile
[09:48] <popey> DJones: not at the moment, no
[09:48] <popey> its a bit of a mess today
[09:55] <popey> ali1234 enjoyed this last time.. https://canyoufindit.co.uk/
[09:56] <dwatkins> I think I'd rather do competitions that teach me sysadmin and hacking ;)
[10:33] <andrewebdev> anyone here know the ins/outs of port forwarding on a TalkTalk router?
[10:37] <DJones> andrewebdev: Not one I've had anything to do with, but http://portforward.com/ should have some info
[10:38] <DJones> Probably just a case of finding the manufacturer/model number and searching for it
[10:38] <andrewebdev> well, my issue is somewhat unique
[10:38] <andrewebdev> I'm able to forward a port fine so that someone from the outside can access something
[10:38] <andrewebdev> but I myself, cannot access it
[10:39] <andrewebdev> using the same ip/port
[10:39] <brobostigon> from inside or outside?
[10:39] <DJones> Is that using the external ip address of the machine, some routers force you to use the internal ip address of the machine you want to access
[10:39] <andrewebdev> inside
[10:40] <DJones> I use ssh from inside & outside my network, inside I have to ssh to the 192.168 address, but externally I use the public ip address
[10:40] <DJones> That sounds like the same situation
[10:41] <andrewebdev> ok. It's strange because it makes it difficult to test callbacks from web services
[10:41] <andrewebdev> if I cannot check if my ports are forwarded correctly
[10:41] <dwatkins> andrewebdev: can you ping the machine internally using its local accress on the same subnet?
[10:41] <andrewebdev> yup that's fine
[10:41] <andrewebdev> I can also access it perfectly with http://localhost:8000/
[10:42] <dwatkins> is the ssh daemon running on the standard port, and can you ssh -vvv to it to see if it responds?
[10:42] <andrewebdev> well it's not a ssh port
[10:42] <andrewebdev> or service
[10:42] <DJones> dwatkins: May not be ssh, i used ssh as an example
[10:42] <dwatkins> oh ok
[10:43] <popey> i set my external dyndns hostname in my /etc/hosts file
[10:43] <dwatkins> but yeah, start from the most basic tests to see if it's running where it should be etc.
[10:43] <popey> that way I can use the external hostname internally
[10:43] <popey> breaks when I leave the house of course ☻
[10:43] <dwatkins> I have my server at home giving out its local IP address to local machines, so that I can use its dyndns address internally or externally
[10:43] <andrewebdev> popey, that's not a bad idea actually
[10:44] <popey> so if you go to popey.mooo.com you get my external IP, I get the internal one
[10:44] <AlanBell> my router bounces stuff back to me from inside which is nice
[10:44] <Laney> yeah I set that up
[10:44] <Laney> "port reflection" I think it was called
[10:44] <Laney> or maybe "internal port forwarding"
[10:50] <popey> hmm http://hax.at/text/41
[10:50] <popey> seems fixable via iptables
[10:51] <MartijnVdS> openwrt fixes it using iptables as well I think
[10:51] <MartijnVdS> let me check
[10:52] <MartijnVdS> ah it uses DNAT instead of MASQUERADE for reflection, but similar to that, popey
[10:52] <andrewebdev> popey, does that mean it's a issue on ubuntu or some service on the router?
[10:53] <DJones> Looks like the Sky routers do the same thing via iptables if you telnet into the router
[10:53] <mgdm> Are Sky ones still just rebranded Netgears?
[10:53] <Laney> banshee just took me from Mogwai to songs from Lion King
[10:53] <Laney> jarring
[10:54] <DJones> mgdm: Not sure, I've just got the latest white one replacing an one of the old black ones
[10:54] <mgdm> they at one point were dishing out DG834GTs, I think
[10:54] <MartijnVdS> Laney: at least it's Lion King, not some death/doom metal.
[11:13] <popey> http://hax.at/text/41 didn't work
[11:13] <popey> iptables -t nat -I POSTROUTING -o br0 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -d <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -j MASQUERADE
[11:13] <popey> added that (changing 144 to 1) and rebooted router.
[11:15] <MartijnVdS> popey: what's the router running?
[11:18] <popey> dd-wrt
[11:19] <MartijnVdS> ah.. I don't know how to configure that. On OpenWRT it's a single flag in /etc/config/network or /etc/config/firewall
[11:52] <DJones> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/09/mass-effect-composer-ubuntu-14-04-start-up-sounds
[12:49] <MartijnVdS> popey: office music! http://open.spotify.com/artist/6VsiDFMZJlJ053P1uO4A6h
[12:54] <DJones> Hi toby10ant
[12:54] <toby10ant> Hi
[12:55] <toby10ant> I'm new to the ubuntu community and wondered if anything was happening for ubuntu jam in the uk?
[12:57] <DJones> There should be a couple of people around that can give you an idea of what events/meetings are going on
[12:57] <DJones> I thought there was a web page with a list of events, but can't seem to find it
[12:58] <DJones> Found it http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-uk/events/ However only thing mentioned is a Real Ale Train meetup
[12:58] <AlanBell> hi toby10ant not much happening in real life for the global jam
[12:58] <moodoo> how about this page - http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/
[12:59] <moodoo> lol :)
[12:59] <daftykins> hey all. i've got a bare metal install file server (10.04.4) that i was updating with the latest kernel refresh yesterday. during the "update-grub" run however, it was getting totally stuck to the point i had to kill the process. i found this in dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6092369/
[12:59] <AlanBell> but there are various online activities
[12:59] <moodoo> only the real ale train for the uk at the moment
[12:59] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: that doesn't look good.
[12:59] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: broken disk?
[12:59] <moodoo> toby10ant: hanging around in this channel will help :D
[13:00] <daftykins> the kernel going on was 2.6.32-50-generic-pae - the smartctl output showed nothing wrong with the disk
[13:00]  * AlanBell is going up to London later this afternoon
[13:00] <daftykins> now - i do have a very bad habit of removing the running kernel after installing the new, before i reboot :D but i've never seen this before?
[13:01] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: grub-probe tried to access a device that doesn't exist or takes VERY long to reply
[13:01] <toby10ant> okay, it actually sounded a really cool event, just I don't think I could justify traveeling for it
[13:01] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: so you either need to let it run, or have it skip that device, IF you can find out which device that is
[13:01] <DJones> toby10ant: Wherabouts are you based
[13:01] <toby10ant> Nottingham
[13:01] <moodoo> toby10ant: o/ :)
[13:02] <daftykins> MartijnVdS: there's a single HDD with a large XFS RAID volume, but since it's doing things with GRUB surely it's only on the boot disk?
[13:02] <daftykins> or does GRUB probe every device 0o
[13:02] <moodoo> toby10ant: where abouts?
[13:02] <toby10ant> moodoo: I was thinking of going along to the local linux group, to see what it's like
[13:02] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: grub-probe tries to access a lot of disk-like devices in /dev
[13:02] <davmor2> Man working boston hours in the uk is a killer :)
[13:02] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: and some not in there (using the bios)
[13:02] <moodoo> toby10ant: notts lug is a great bunch of guts.
[13:02] <moodoo> guys
[13:03] <MartijnVdS> moodoo: guys with guts? 8-)
[13:03] <toby10ant> moodoo: guts lol
[13:03] <moodoo> yeah yeah yeah ;)
[13:03] <DJones> moodoo: I think that was deliberate
[13:03] <davmor2> moodoo: I've seen you gut in photos you were right the first time :P
[13:03] <moodoo> davmor2: shush man, toby10ant is new here, don't want to give a wrong impression from a fellow nottingham user
[13:04] <daftykins> MartijnVdS: "sudo update-grub" is sufficient to re-do the process yeah? that's what i was trying a couple of times to see if it'd complete
[13:04] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: yeah
[13:04] <daftykins> ty sir
[13:04] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: there might be a "no probe" command line option
[13:04] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: to stop it from doing BIOS calls
[13:05] <davmor2> moodoo: come on they are linux geeks someone has to keep the beer houses open ;)
[13:05] <daftykins> do you think it was my removing the prior kernel before rebooting into the new that's likely the reason for making it go funny? :D
[13:05] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: no
[13:05] <moodoo> davmor2: lol
[13:05] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: unless you haven't rebooted yet
[13:05] <MartijnVdS> (yay double negatives)
[13:05] <daftykins> i've not no
[13:05] <moodoo> toby10ant: you live in the center?
[13:05] <daftykins> wow it just completed update-grub fine
[13:05] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: then it might be looking for a module to load, and not finding it
[13:06] <toby10ant> moodoo: no i live a bit out
[13:06] <daftykins> i guess its' hissy fit was temporary :D
[13:06] <daftykins> now i just have to see if it'll reboot and survive \o/
[13:06] <MartijnVdS> *\o/*
[13:06] <toby10ant> mooddoo: yourself?
[13:06] <moodoo> toby10ant: calverton
[13:08] <toby10ant> moodoo: so you attend lug meetings much?
[13:09] <daftykins> MartijnVdS: thanks :)
[13:09] <moodoo> toby10ant: not in a while
[13:17] <moodoo> toby10ant: http://nlug.ml1.co.uk/ :)
[13:18] <toby10ant> moodoo: cheers I was thinking of going along to the next meetup :)
[13:20] <moodoo> toby10ant: and perhaps we could arrange an ubuntu hour in one of the local pubs :D
[13:20] <toby10ant> moodoo: perhaps I live in kimberley and don't have a car atm
[13:20] <moodoo> ah ok :)  kimberley ubuntu hour ;)
[13:21] <moodoo> toby10ant: if you're not sure what I mean - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour
[13:22] <toby10ant> moodoo: that makes more sense!!
[13:24] <moodoo> toby10ant: so go here and buy a tshirt/stickers lol http://shop.canonical.com/
[13:24] <toby10ant> I've actually already got some stickers, from a few years ago on my laptop
[13:24] <toby10ant> :)
[13:25] <DJones> Monotoko: Given you're interest earlier in the Doctor Who comment http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/11/doctor_who_50th_anniversary_pic/
[13:25] <moodoo> yay
[13:41] <Azelphur> meanwhile, in Linux, my PCs sound card is broken so I'm using my laptop as a sound card.
[13:41] <Azelphur> pulseaudio <3
[13:45] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: How did you do that?
[13:45] <MartijnVdS> Break a sound card?
[13:45] <MartijnVdS> #blamepulseaudio?
[13:45] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: I have no idea, it just seems to no longer function on my PC, tried it with a live xubuntu disk and everything, pulseaudio says its outputting, but nothing comes out.
[13:45] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: weird!
[13:46] <Azelphur> yea
[13:46] <Azelphur> it's only temporary till my USB headset gets fixed, I killed that too
[13:46] <Azelphur> :<
[13:46] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000L98002
[13:47] <Azelphur> lol
[13:47] <ali1234> so, cassette tapes
[13:48] <MartijnVdS> ali1234: vinyl records
[13:48] <ali1234> no, cassette tapes. i have one with some old C64 source code on it, which was taped over
[13:48] <MartijnVdS> ali1234: oops
[13:48] <ali1234> i have a theory that since the C64 datasette is mono and the music was taped in stereo
[13:48] <ali1234> then the data should still be present between the stereo tracks
[13:49] <ali1234> albeit in very weak form
[13:49] <MartijnVdS> ali1234: it might be, call the GCHQ to be sure :)
[13:49] <popey> ali1234: thats quite a narrow gap isn't it?
[13:50] <popey> although that tech probably not narrow by modern standard
[13:50] <ali1234> http://matesy.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=55&Itemid=74&lang=en
[13:50] <ali1234> i need one of these
[13:50] <popey> ali1234: did you see the gchq thing?
[13:50] <ali1234> yeah, i'm no good at ciphers
[13:50] <popey> oh, i thought you were
[13:50] <NET||abuse> d
[13:50] <NET||abuse> umm, sorry :P
[13:51] <ali1234> so i was thinking about ripping the read head from a old hard disk, attaching it to a servo, and using it to scan the tape in 2d
[13:52] <MartijnVdS> ghetto forensics
[13:53] <ali1234> i need to know more about cassette recorders though. like does the erase head wipe the whole width of the tape?
[13:54] <MartijnVdS> ali1234: just the half of the side you're recording, I guess
[13:54] <popey> wish I still had some of my old casettes
[13:54] <ali1234> true, so it must be localized
[13:54] <popey> think my mum threw them out
[13:54] <MartijnVdS> I have some of mine, but nothing to play on
[13:54] <AlanBell> if it was mono, but recorded on a stereo recording rig, it probably got recorded as two lines
[13:54] <popey> if it was his own code on a tapedeck, thats less likely
[13:55] <ali1234> AlanBell: that's the thing - the C64 cassette deck is mono, it was recorded over with music on a stereo tape desk
[13:55] <popey> most people used crappy little mono tape decks, especially on c64
[13:55] <ali1234> it was the original datasette, so obviously no need for stereo
[13:55] <AlanBell> plausible then  :)
[13:56] <popey> would it be "easier" to mask the stereo tracks, obscuring them from the reader
[13:56] <popey> so the only 'visible' bit was the central mono remains
[13:56] <AlanBell> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tape_head#Erase_heads
[13:57] <ali1234> well the stereo reader has two heads
[13:57] <ali1234> there's a picture on the wiki from that magview machine, there is a gap between the stereo tracks according to that
[13:59] <AlanBell> I would say that is a lot harder than the awesome teletext recovery
[14:01] <AlanBell> wonder if gordonjcp knows about the stuff ali1234 did on that
[14:01] <ali1234> yeah, i've shown him before
[14:02] <ali1234> "To put this in perspective, the government still has found no one who  can recover the 18-1/2 minute gap in the Nixon Watergate tape. They ran a  test in 2002-2003 with tapes similar to the Watergate tape and recorded  and erased on the same or similar machines. They decided that no one  showed enough promise during these trials to warrant letting them try  the real thing."
[14:03] <ali1234> sounds like a challenge then
[14:03] <ali1234> same page does say data recordings can sometimes be recovered
[14:29] <celestin> any topic?
[14:31] <popey> celestin: hello
[14:34] <ali1234> hmm a floppy drive head might work better
[14:55] <mgdm> Jabber \o/
[14:55] <mgdm> actually I'm going to upgrade that to Jabber + OTR \o/
[15:00] <MattJ> Jabber \o/
[15:00] <MattJ> mgdm \o/
[15:01] <mgdm> \o/
[15:03] <Azelphur> \o/
[15:04] <SuperMatt> me \o/
[15:04] <Azelphur> him \o/
[15:04] <SuperMatt> him? /o\
[15:04] <Azelphur> you \o/?
[15:57] <MartijnVdS> *\o/* ?
[18:42] <mralc> hello uk
[18:45] <mralc> how is everyone?
[18:48] <mralc> i am new to linux and have installed unbuntu on my laptop
[20:08] <ali1234> ok, i solved problem number one: how to wind the tape outside of a tape player
[20:09] <ali1234> with lego
[20:12] <mgdm> cunning
[20:13] <ali1234> hmm... i need more gears
[20:13] <ali1234> these old lego motors do not have gearboxes
[20:24] <diddledan> hunble bundle 9
[20:27] <zleap> hi toby10ant
[20:27] <zleap> tombrough,
[20:38] <ali1234> diddledan: fez!
[20:58] <diddledan> has anyone got anywhere with the canyoufindit.co.uk challenge?
[20:59] <ali1234> i think it is a bazeries cipher
[21:00] <ali1234> because that would likely make q = e
[21:15] <Monotoko> if I had about 5 VM's in a virtual network, and I set DNS up on one of them and pointed the others resolv.conf at it, would I be able to use internal DNS names?
[21:16] <mgdm> Sure
[21:16] <mgdm> I recommend dnsmasq for the purpose, it's nice and simple
[21:17] <mgdm> though of course you can use BIND or whatever
[21:44] <directhex> libvirt uses dnsmasq automatically for this
[21:59]  * mgdm wonders why xfs (as in X font server) spontaneously went completely mental and ate 2GB of RAM on one machine


[00:05] <shadowbroker> so in #bash, we found out that kde doesn't use a login shell >.>
[00:05] <shadowbroker> kinda bs imo, as it should be loading .bash_profile as expected
[00:05] <shadowbroker> but it doesnt because kde is special :/
[00:07] <NanduX> it's not just kde, I think most of them don't use login shells
[00:07] <shadowbroker> regardless, kde's implementation is, imo, incorrect
[00:08] <shadowbroker> i should be able to expect .bash_profile to load when i login, pure and simple
[01:03] <QuakeEXE> hello
[01:08] <dougl> select a group of pictures from map view in digikam
[01:45] <luis> hola
[02:15] <smaudet> fyi, the openid login @ userbase.kde.org is failing with the following error: http://pastebin.com/Gw9J5JhN
[02:15] <smaudet> I can successfully login with openid elsewhere. If there is a better place to report this, I am happy to oblige.
[02:17] <valorie> smaudet: probably the #kde-www channel would be better, and then #kde-sysadmin if they can't help
[02:17] <smaudet> valorie: sure, thanks!
[02:33] <GiGaHuRtZ> Huh, weird. I removed the notifications for magnets from ktorrent, even restarted ktorrent, and it still does it
[02:33] <GiGaHuRtZ> Wonder if plasma has its own notification for magnet links
[04:00] <Whiskey`Wonka> anyone know how or if its possible to reset the video driver with out rebooting? using 13.04 with a intel gma using the i915 kernel driver
[04:06] <NanduX> Whiskey`Wonka, modprobe -r <driver_name> and then modprobe <driver_name>
[04:07] <Whiskey`Wonka> NanduX: eek, was hoping for something less drastic
[04:08] <NanduX> a reboot is safer, since you'll have to stop X before unloading the driver, just to be sure
[04:08] <Whiskey`Wonka> right and stopping X means stopping all the apps first, uhg
[04:08] <NanduX> yep
[04:10] <Whiskey`Wonka> well, ok what is happening is that i play counterstrike source via wine. sometimes, and it might be a hour or it might be 3 weeks, the 3d performance drops to near nill. google earth is also effected. i dont really ue any other 3d softwares
[04:14] <NanduX> well, Intel stinks at graphics as far as I know...
[04:16] <Whiskey`Wonka> yes i am well aware of that. this works well enough to do 40~50fps in CS, run google earth and minecraft when i need to manage a server so i live with it
[04:16] <Whiskey`Wonka> just would like to not have to reboot every time this comes up
[04:24] <GiGaHuRtZ> Whiskey`Wonka: steam wont run on the i915?
[04:24] <GiGaHuRtZ> I know it wouldnt work with CS source with the GMA3500, but a mesa update fixed that from xorg-edgers
[04:25] <[Relic]> How does one fix Moun?  It is stuck with 1 upgradeable package that refuses to upgrade or be removed
[04:27] <Whiskey`Wonka> [Relic]: use apt-get
[04:27] <Whiskey`Wonka> GiGaHuRtZ: no it runs fine till something breaks and this blamo ALL 2d apps run at 4~5 FPS
[04:27] <Whiskey`Wonka> er 3d
[04:27] <Whiskey`Wonka> minecraft, cs:s, google earth
[04:28] <GiGaHuRtZ> hmmm
[04:28] <[Relic]> and do what with it?
[04:28] <GiGaHuRtZ> try upgrading X11, mesa, etc
[04:28] <Whiskey`Wonka> GiGaHuRtZ: i have
[04:28] <GiGaHuRtZ> [Relic]: apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:28] <GiGaHuRtZ> Whiskey`Wonka: from xorg-edgers?
[04:29] <Whiskey`Wonka> uhm, mmm, thats a good , not sure im using that on this one
[04:29] <GiGaHuRtZ> I dont know why you would run CSS in wine if it works in steam on your card
[04:29] <[Relic]> a dist upgrade to get rid of one package that is stuck in the system
[04:29] <GiGaHuRtZ> you are saying a package that is not upgraded
[04:30] <GiGaHuRtZ> yes dist-upgrade will fix that
[04:30] <Whiskey`Wonka> [Relic]: apt-get install saidpackagenamehere
[04:30] <GiGaHuRtZ> nt that it really matters anyway
[04:30] <GiGaHuRtZ> anyways, bbiab
[04:31] <[Relic]> Unable to mark upgrades. Some upgrades may have unsatisfiable dependencies at the moment, or may have been manually held back.
[04:31] <[Relic]> so it is still stuck in muon just not accessible now
[04:32] <Whiskey`Wonka> do as GiGaHuRtZ said, you just have a mix of packages that end up blocking
[04:33] <[Relic]> using apt-get purge doesn't remove it from muon, this little bugger is annoying
[04:35] <[Relic]> well that was fun; seems the problem was another package was upgradeable but not showing at all but only showing the dependancy package instead which never upgraded/installed due to the upgradeable one not showing
[04:39] <GiGaHuRtZ> apt-get -f install
[04:39] <GiGaHuRtZ> no packages
[09:02] <gregor3000> mouse is not recognised when i plug it in (laptop). any ideas why not? it's a generic mouse and i know it works nicely in debian 6.
[09:23] <RoyG> Hallo. Can anyone explain how to change locale settings for xterms?
[09:47] <aries1200> hello,
[09:47] <aries1200> anyone who likes microsoft windows?
[10:02] <aries1200> anyone who likes MacOSX
[11:00] <ssulim> есть кто живой?
[11:01] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:10] <vedu_> hello. how to share wired internet connection over wifi?
[11:16] <BluesKaj> vedu_, more details please
[11:18] <vedu_> BluesKaj: I have a LAN connection that is connected to the internet. I want to create a "ad-hoc" wifi hub using my computer's wifi so that other computers can connect and use the internet in the LAN connection
[11:28] <BluesKaj> vedu_, ok describe your actual setup and connection to the internet , and how you want the other computers to connect ..it's still not clear to me
[11:29] <BluesKaj> and what equipment router/modem etc you use
[11:35] <vedu_> BluesKaj: I want to use my laptop's wifi to share the internet connected to my laptop's LAN card
[11:40] <BluesKaj> vedu_, this is an ubuntu tutorial but using network manager should be very similar,  http://tumutanzi.com/archives/8195
[11:49] <vedu> BluesKaj: I followed the steps till step 5 but step 6 onwards its rather Ubuntu specific. could you help m eout
[11:55] <BluesKaj> vedu, wish I could but I don't use network manager , and the wifi on our network is handled by the router/modem'
[14:48] <GiGaHuRtZ> Anyone around willing to help with a depmod, kernel, dpkg/apt issue?
[14:49] <GiGaHuRtZ> Every since installing something last night, from a ppa I believe (which I have since purged) I cant get apt-get or dpkg to complete fully
[14:49] <GiGaHuRtZ> Well a dpkg --configure -a
[14:49] <ikonia> you need to check the PPA's packages have been purgred
[14:49] <GiGaHuRtZ> ikonia: Dude, I am ignoring you
[14:49] <ikonia> as they are the most likely cause of a conflict
[14:49] <GiGaHuRtZ> And you dont even know my problem
[14:49] <ikonia> you've just asked the problem ?
[14:49] <GiGaHuRtZ> Because I havent said what the problem is
[14:50] <ikonia> you can't apt-get fully
[14:50] <ikonia> that sounds like the problem ?
[14:50] <GiGaHuRtZ> ......
[14:50] <GiGaHuRtZ> i can apt get plenty of things
[14:50] <ikonia> and a PPA causing a conflict is normally the common cause, not always,
[14:50] <GiGaHuRtZ> its the kernel it fails on
[14:50] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: was the kernel from a PPA
[14:50] <GiGaHuRtZ> Does matter if its liquorix, maiunline from ubuntu, stock ubuntu, etc
[14:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> npot a ppa, no
[14:51] <ikonia> yes, it does matter
[14:51] <sithlord48> GiGaHuRtZ:  can you pastebin ur error for me
[14:51] <ikonia> as that's whats likely to break the dependencies, hence apt-get failing
[14:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> ikonia: no, it doesnt.
[14:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> It does it it with ALL kernels
[14:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> ffs
[14:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> kernels that were just working and hadnt been updated
[14:51] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: sure, most probably due to a dependency conflict
[14:51] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: tone down the language please - there isn't a need for it
[14:51] <GiGaHuRtZ> Ive researched enoiugh myself to know its dxue to another issue
[14:52] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: ok, what issue is it due to ?
[14:52] <GiGaHuRtZ> so please, sto[p talking to me
[14:52] <GiGaHuRtZ> Im far from the only person that doesnt like you in the *buntu channels
[14:52] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: if you know what the issue is, please expand on it explaining what the issue is
[14:52] <GiGaHuRtZ> And your opership is being taken up with the ubuntu council
[14:52] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: I'm not really interested if you like me or not,
[14:52] <GiGaHuRtZ> But for now, /i9gnore
[14:52] <GiGaHuRtZ> sithlord48: one sec
[14:53] <GiGaHuRtZ> I woiuldve pasted longer, but ikonia likes to wage a global irc nerd war abgainst me i9n every channel
[14:53] <ikonia> GiGaHuRtZ: it doesn't change your problem sounds like it's from a package conflict, - unless you can clarify what where you think the problem lies
[14:54] <sithlord48> can you also tell me what you have installed from what ppa also (i know you purged it but it might be helpful)
[14:54] <slatenails> i don't think he can really tell anything heh
[15:04] <BluesKaj> not sorry to see him go
[15:05] <sithlord48> i guess i missed something then
[15:05] <BluesKaj> he's not really venomous as just a plain pita
[15:06] <BluesKaj> sithlord48, not really
[15:08] <sithlord48> i had a strange nepomuk issue but im not really sure its an issue or just outside its use case.
[15:09] <sithlord48> turns out ms.sith has had really bad proformance on her machine lately. and high temps for months now. couldn't figure it out..
[15:09] <sithlord48> turns out nepomuk was indexing her documents and taking forever because of the insane amout of text  (~17GB) it was working with..
[15:43] <Nightrose> hey folks :)
[15:43] <Nightrose> during upgrade i get the following error: dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 9813 package 'libgsm1:amd64':
[15:43] <Nightrose>  `Pre-Depends' field, invalid package name `m�ltiarch-support': character `�' not allowed (only letters, digits and characters `-+._')
[15:43] <Nightrose> known problem?
[15:43] <Nightrose> anything i can do to fix it?
[15:44] <Avihay> I've upgraded to 4.11, and now I can't see skype windows of all things... anyone bumped into the issue?
[15:45] <ikonia> Nightrose: shouldn't it be "multiarch"
[15:45] <ikonia> Nightrose: with a "u"
[15:45] <Nightrose> ikonia: it should yes
[15:46] <ikonia> Nightrose: where is this package, in what repo
[15:46] <Nightrose> i have no idea
[15:46] <ikonia> !info libgsm1
[15:46] <ikonia> Nightrose: got any PPA's enabled ?
[15:47] <Nightrose> they should all be disabled since i am in the middle of a distro upgrade
[15:47] <ikonia> Nightrose: (I'm assuing this is raring your using)
[15:47] <Nightrose> (that didn't go too well)
[15:47] <ikonia> Nightrose: disabled isn't enough
[15:47] <ikonia> Nightrose: disabling them doesn't remove packages which can be bad/cause a conflict
[15:47] <Nightrose> k
[15:48] <Nightrose> do you have a tip for how to investigate this further?
[15:48] <ikonia> Nightrose: well, I'd look at where that package is coming from - then check it's dependencies, and if it's got an invalid charset in the name, log a bug for it explaining
[15:48] <Nightrose> how do i find out?
[15:48] <ikonia> Nightrose: are you upgrading to/from what distro ?
[15:48] <Nightrose> from raring to saucy
[15:49] <ikonia> really...you're upgrading to a development version and you've had ppa's installed and you've no idea how to manage packages/dependencies ?
[15:49] <ikonia> this sounds like a bad idea
[15:50] <Nightrose> it probably is - i was offered the upgrade - but ok - let me see what i can find out about the package
[15:50] <ikonia> you shouldn't have been offered it
[15:50] <ikonia> unless you did update-manager -d
[15:51] <ikonia> interesting the package version is the name in raring and saucy
[16:10] <s0ck0> Hello
[16:10] <s0ck0> Can anyone help me? When trying to upgrade kernel or do anything recently, I get this in apt/dpkg: http://pastebin.com/cCBSVTaZ
[16:12] <faLUCE> hello. how can I enable hdmi audio on a cedar trail mobo with (l)ubuntu 12.04 ? I can see the HDMI device with aplay -l but I don't see it with alsamixer
[16:16] <DarthFrog> faLUCE:  Use pavucontrol for all that.
[16:16] <DarthFrog> faLUCE: pavucontrol is not installed by default
[16:17] <faLUCE> DarthFrog: ok, let's try
[16:18] <faLUCE> i launched pavucontrol, but I don't see hdmi in the combo
[16:19] <DarthFrog> faLUCE:  Play around with it.  You'll have to set the output device.
[16:20] <faLUCE> DarthFrog: yes, but I see only speakers and headphones. no hdmi
[16:21] <faLUCE> DarthFrog: sorry. just found it
[16:21] <faLUCE> let's try
[16:22] <faLUCE> DarthFrog: thqnks solved
[16:28] <DarthFrog> You're welcome.
[18:22] <basso> When playing Half Life 2 i get heafty vertical tearing
[18:25] <basso> hmm, kwin is not cooporating with my nvidia card, will try a newer driver :P
[18:36] <Avihay> basso: in windows, there was a way to enable/disable  vsync from inside HL2
[18:37] <Avihay> I've upgraded to 4.11, and now I can't see skype windows of all things... anyone bumped into the issue? login-logout doesn't help. it happens when I use kwin with razorQT too
[18:37] <basso> Avihay: yes i know, enabled it still shows vertical tearing, and i have no idea why
[18:39] <Avihay> basso:  maybe set max_fps in HL to the refresh rate you see in kde's system settings
[18:40] <Avihay> not a solution, I know
[18:40] <basso> I found the solution, changing to OpenGL 2 and native seemed to fix the issue
[18:41] <Avihay> humm, maybe messing with that will fix my skype issue too
[18:43] <Avihay> switching to kwin crashed my xorg, yey!
[18:44] <basso> hah yeah, fantstic aint it Avihay
[18:46] <ultrixx> hi i upgraded from kubuntu 12.10 to 13.04 and i cant find the system monitor program
[18:53] <anonymous_> is there a way to connect to servers with each other using  a vpn connection and something like a "linux host" to manage that VPN ?
[19:16] <something> hey could any one link me a place were i could get ubuntu via ftp
[20:23] <skreech_> something: hi
[20:23] <skreech_> what are you looking for?
[20:33] <something> acctually never mind i found it
[20:33] <something> thanks any ways
[20:39] <skreech_> something: Ok :)
[20:39] <skreech_> where was it?
[20:40] <something> i ended up just torrenting it
[20:40] <ikonia> @mark s0ck0 gigahrtz trying to evade ban
[20:41] <dougl> I thot there was a way to use post it type notes in kubuntu?
[20:41] <skreech_> something: Probably better anyway
[20:42] <skreech_> dougl: other than sticking them on the monitor?
[20:42] <dougl> lol
[20:42] <dougl> yeah they graphical postit notes
[20:42] <something> well idk why i was not able to download it via the https link
[20:43] <skreech_> dougl: add the notes widget
[20:43] <BluesKaj> dougl, xpad
[20:44] <skreech_> something: did you get an error?
[20:44] <skreech_> hi BluesKaj
[20:44] <BluesKaj> hey skreech_ , how goes it ?
[20:44] <skreech_> Rainy
[20:44] <dougl> thanks guys
[20:47] <something> yea no problemo
[20:48] <skreech_> dougl: enjoy :)
[20:56] <skreech_> something: which one did you get?
[20:58] <something> skreech_: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/12.04/release/ubuntu-12.04.2-dvd-amd64.iso
[20:59]  * skreech_ forgot about the DVD releases <_<
[23:05] <skreech_> RiotingPacifist: how did you garner that nomenclature?
[23:08] <RiotingPacifist> skreech_: Picked it a few years ago, seemed like a good idea at the time
[23:11] <skreech_> RiotingPacifist: It's cute :)
[23:51] <DarthFrog> Hey folks, a friend of mine posted asking for help on her blog.  She's having filesystem performance issues and I have no ideas beyond what she's already tried.  If you could help her, it'd be greatly appreciated.    http://crimeandtheforcesofevil.com/blog/2013/08/linux-filesystem-performance-help/