[04:50] <bullgard4> wcchandler: Please put a more specific question here in this channel.
[04:50] <noob123> i used to have the shut down option on the upper right corner of the screen but now my chat thing is like overlapping it and i cant get access to it anymore.  I did right click and went 2 add panel to add the shut down icon again but is there anyway i can get the original one back?
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  as i said some 'parts' ie: the widgits. define what colors you can change. By selecting other parts and playing with the colors you can alter some things.. with some parts you cant.
[04:50] <xangua> noob123: add the indicator applet
[04:50] <janice> noob123: they gye savet to were ever you download them to
[04:51] <Zelozelos> check this  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/4064 ive circled the parts i cant seem to change, perhaps ull have a good suggestion
[04:51] <noob123> what janice?
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  also you may want to unlock and move the widgits around a little. could be they are overlapping.
[04:51] <noob123> how do i do that?
[04:51] <janice> noob123: they get* saved* to were ever you download them to
[04:51] <wcchandler> Can you set MX records with subdomains?  I have a subdomain -- a free subdomain through afraid.org.  But I cannot seem to get the MX record set up accordingly...
[04:52] <noob123> ok they are unlocked but the chat is still overlapping the default location of where the shut down applet  should be
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  heres a nice new theme i saw -> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/equinox-gets-its-own-ubuntu-ppa-both.html
[04:52] <noob123> janice these are streaming flv movies
[04:52] <Sangeeth> Is there anyone who has an opening in his team?.. Dev, mod or bug solving... I'm skilled in C, C++...
[04:52] <noob123> im just wondering if they get saved in a temp file?
[04:52] <noob123> like in windows?
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  move it to the left a little bit, add applets.. or just reset teh whole gnome panel.
[04:52] <noob123> how do i reset the whole gnome panel?
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  in /tmp/ yes i think they do.  tmp gets cleaned out regullary
[04:53] <janice> noob123: oh ok streaming goes into yut /tmp
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanel
[04:53] <Zelozelos> Dr_Willis, those look pretty cool, ty for the info
[04:53] <Flannel> Sangeeth: http://www.ubuntu.com/community  Also, #ubuntu-devel might be a good place to ask
[04:54] <noob123> dr willis i typed that in term but it says event not found
[04:54] <janice> noob123: and are not saved anywhere
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> Zelozelos:  just rember the term 'theme' is often very vague.. people use it to mean a complete theme.. or often just some parts of a tjheme
[04:54] <noob123> ubottu does that make my whole panel blank or back to default?
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  be more clear in what you are doing... you tuped 'what' exactly?
[04:54] <Flannel> Sangeeth: There's plenty of opportunity for you to begin helping, that page explains some ways that you can, with links to more information on contacting the various teams
[04:54] <Zelozelos> Dr_Willis, heh,,tell me about it rofl
[04:54] <noob123> i typed !resetpanel
[04:55] <Sangeeth> Flannel : Thank you...
[04:55] <mom> acovrig, hey i got it :)
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  thats a bot trigger.. type the command the bot said...
[04:55] <noob123> janice sry i missed ur response streaming flv and mpgs are not saved in temp files in ubuntu like they are in windows?
[04:55] <mom> acovrig, mkdir {0..9}{0..9}{0..9}
[04:56] <noob123> dr willis will that make my panel blank or back to default?
[04:56] <acovrig> mom, well, I guess that work good too lol
[04:56] <Guest2709> How come pidgin wont let me send files through yahoo?
[04:56] <Dr_Willis>  To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[04:56] <janice> noob123: /tmp is cleared upon every reboot
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> in terminal -0-->      gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> resets the panels back to defaults..
[04:56] <noob123> ok i did that
[04:56] <noob123> and my panel dissappeared
[04:56] <Sangeeth> Flannel : I saw that already based on your instructions to me, yesterday...  Is there anyway to confirm that it's really disabled?
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> ugliefrog:  change them to do what exactly?
[04:57] <Zelozelos> wooo hooooo Dr_Willis those drab greays are FINALLLLLYY gone ty soo much man
[04:58] <jason8> ok so i got ubuntu installed how do i make it work on my TV
[04:58] <janice> noob123: as far as I know!
[04:58] <noob123> oo ok lol sry i gotta get with the lingo
[04:58] <noob123> thx janice i hope your knowledge is correct :)
[04:58] <Zelozelos> oops now i need to get the faenza-dark icon theme
[04:59] <Sangeeth> Flannel : I went into the #ubuntu-devel room... But, I can't find anyone discussing there...  ???
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> jason8:  and your video card is a ? and the tv is connected how? and what is your exact setup? Just a tv? tv + monitor?
[05:00] <Flannel> Sangeeth: What do you mean you can't make it into any team?
[05:00] <ugliefrog> Dr_Willis, Im trying to install a game wont let me cuz i cant change permissions...under properties it says the permission could not be determined
[05:00] <znook> Does anyone know how I can check the current status of ipv6?
[05:01] <noob123> how secure if ubuntu is it easy for people to make trojan like viruses and open back doors?
[05:01] <Sangeeth> Flannel : I could see, that the teams are classified like Kerne team, laptop team, etc... But, there is no one in the freenode chat room discussing but all logged in...
[05:01] <Flannel> Sangeeth: Yeah, sometimes people are on other timezones, or just busy.  You might also try the mailing lists, that allows people to communicate even if they're 12 hours away from you :)
[05:02] <Sangeeth> Flannel : Sorry... I got some one chatting with me in #ubuntu-devel....
[05:02] <janice> noob123: as far as I know   is deffinetly correct
[05:02] <noob123> can someone make a trojan like virus for ubuntu that enters what ever it wants to?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> ugliefrog:  if you mean to say you 'cant run a windows game via wine due the the whatever.exe on the cd  not being 'executable''  then use wine via the command line to install the windows game...
[05:02] <noob123> in the terminal
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> ugliefrog:   so.. You are trying to install a windows game from cd, with wine? yes/no?
[05:03] <jason8> card is a cheep ATI x300 and the TV is/will be pluged into the DVI port
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  a user running some malware. in theory . can only trash their own files..
[05:03] <janice> noob123: ubuntu is vastly more secure that windoes
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  thats one of the many reasons for the 'layers' of security that ubuntu has.
[05:04] <ugliefrog> Dr_Willis, srry yes thats what in trying to do...im passed the first cd now im stuck on the second cuz of the file permission
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> jason8:  a tv plugged into the dvi port. basically is a computer monitor.
[05:04] <janice> noob123: ubuntu is vastly more secure that windoes   unless you happen upon a RK!
[05:04] <noob123> so virus like programs dont have the ability to enter their own terminal commnds?
[05:04] <noob123> whats and RK?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> ugliefrog:  with multi-cd games. I tend to copy ALL the files from all the cds to some single directory on the HD. then install from there.  I have a pc with 2 physical HDD. One with Ubuntu10.4 and other with WXP. ¿ Is there a way that VirtualBox takes physical hdd with WXP ?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> well actually the 'admins' doing things.. :) in theory if a user never did any admin type tasks . the system should be safe.
[05:09] <soreau> noob123: For example, running as root or with sudo when they shouldn't be
[05:09] <mattl94> Hi , Is fixing the Software center and  update manager a easy thing to do ?
[05:09] <lubu2> join #ubuntu+1
[05:09] <soreau> mattl94: Depends on how badly it's broken I guess
[05:09] <mattl94> is that for me on noob123
[05:09] <noob123> can you "brick" an ubuntu OS?
[05:09] <Soekarmana> @tshirt : try this :http://blarts.wordpress.com/2007/12/06/how-to-run-virtualbox-using-a-physical-partition-using-ubuntu-feisty-fawn/
[05:09] <soreau> noob123: Depends on what you mean by 'brick'
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  the term 'brick' is used when you break a bit of hardware, like a PSP, or gameboy normally
[05:10] <ines> how can you free up some major space on ubuntu? i need to get it to fit on a 4 gb card and have as much room as possible to spare.
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> You can 'break' an OS. :)
[05:10] <mom> file parting . . . cant find a wikipedia on it
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> You can Brik your Xbox360 by trying to Mod It.
[05:10] <janice> noob123:  brick it   why?
[05:10] <robbmunson> YOU cant really "brick" an OS, but you can make it unstable noob123 ;)
[05:11] <soreau> noob123: Ubuntu is not going to do any hardware damage if that's what you're asking. Worse case scenario is you'll have to reinstall it
[05:11] <noob123> janice: just wondering if virus like programs can "brick" or a better word "breaK" the ubuntu OS
[05:12] <mom> noob123, good luck with that
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  programs can do most anythiong.. :)  thats their nature..
[05:12] <soreau> noob123: There aren't really any known viruses that affect linux (which is what ubuntu is under everything)
[05:12] <noob123> i see
[05:12] <robbmunson> noob123: see !virus ;)
[05:12] <ines> how can you free up some major space on ubuntu? i need to get it to fit on a 4 gb card and have as much room as possible to spare.
[05:12] <janice> noob123:  i dont really think so (but not 100% SURE)
[05:12] <robbmunson> ubottu, tell noob123 about virus
[05:12] <acovrig> noob123, there isn't any viruses known, but 1 cmd can format ur hdd
[05:12] <Sangeeth> Where can i get free promotional Ubuntu Laptop Stickers for free?..
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> ines:  remove openoffice frees up a bit of space.. but you will have to watch out for apt's cache and stuff filling up  the hd.
[05:13] <ines> Dr_Willis, apt's cache?
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> ines:  remove other apps also. for more space freed.  but 4gb will be a little tight
[05:13] <jason8> dr willis, i tryed to install my system that way before but i couldn't get into the install my tv would say not supported mode
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> ines:  yes.. every time you install somthing, or update/upgrade apt keeps stuff in its cache
[05:13] <kazagistar> robbmunson: when did they add that syntax for ubottu commands?
[05:13] <ugliefrog> Dr_Willis, sigh...i copied the first one to the disk i didnt do the secon one i dont know why
[05:13] <mom> acovrig, i doubt even rm -rf / works
[05:13] <noob123> i guess coming from supporting windows OS, it was so important to have a reliable antivirus and anti adware program installed
[05:13] <noob123> its kinda crazy that ubuntu doesnt need to
[05:13] <soreau> ines: apt caches packages and stores them on the hard drive in /var/apt/cache IIRC
[05:14] <robbmunson> kazagistar: its been there forever ;)
[05:14] <acovrig> ines, apt-get autoremove; also u could use a cmd-install
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> jason8:  you needed to set a proper res/refresh rate i guess. I plugged my tv via dvi into my PC (nvidia card) and its identical to a large pc monitor.
[05:14] <mattl94> This Is my update manager error Software index is broken
[05:14] <mattl94> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[05:14] <mattl94> is my problem major
[05:14] <ines> or bleachbit?
[05:14] <FloodBot3> mattl94: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> mattl94:  so you ran the command it said to run?
[05:14] <acovrig> mom, lol, sudo mv /* /dev/null isn't good either
[05:14] <jason8> yeah i had it set that way with windows
[05:14] <soreau> mattl94: It's telling you exactly what to do
[05:14] <bastid_raZor> soreau: /var/cache/apt/archives  :ines
[05:14] <soreau> mattl94: What part of that do you not understand?
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  its crazy that windows 'needs' av software the moment its installed... :)
[05:14] <mom> acovrig, but does it work? :)
[05:14] <janice> noob123: not needed with ubuntu!
[05:14] <soreau> bastid_raZor: Ah yes, thank you
[05:14] <ugliefrog> Dr_Willis, Thanks for the help...time for a mc donalds run
[05:15] <noob123> oh yea how do i uninstall software besides going thru synaptic
[05:15] <ines> bastid_raZor, what?
[05:15] <bastid_raZor> ines: sudo apt-get clean    will clean that directory out
[05:15] <soreau> bastid_raZor: apt-cache --clean to remove?
[05:15] <noob123> im looking to a programs uninstall feature like in windows maybe?
[05:15] <acovrig> noob123, windows is an os w/a firewall - ubuntu is based on linux, linux *is* a firewall and has a firewall
[05:15] <soreau> I always forget all the boring details ;)
[05:15] <DrkStr> anyone know if i can make fire fox transparent
[05:15] <tshirt> Soekarmana: Thanks. I'll check it. i need to log off
[05:15] <soreau> DrkStr: You sure can, with compiz
[05:15] <robbmunson> noob123: please pay attention to these guys, we are trying to help you with the exact things youre trying to inquire about...
[05:15] <DrkStr> google.com
[05:15] <drizzt_> noob123, if you compiled something from source, usually there is 'make uninstall' option
[05:15] <acovrig> noob123, Add/Remove, or in the terminal(not that u want that yet)apt-get
[05:15] <bastid_raZor> soreau: :) i get bored and read manpages
[05:16] <soreau> DrkStr: Try Alt+Scroll
[05:16] <noob123> i see so i dont have to worry abt malware or bad cookies downloading on ubuntu?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> DrkStr:  compiz has features to make any window tansparent via a key combo+mouse wheel.
[05:16] <soreau> bastid_raZor: TMI! TMI!
[05:16] <dstufft> Is there a better way to do Nginx + uWsgi on Ubuntu 10.04 then compile from source >.>
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> that would make firefox much harder to use.. so i dont see the point
[05:16] <janice> robbmunson: and girls (Ill have you know!)
[05:17] <robbmunson> noob123: no, unless you are intending to use the ubuntu server, then youre gonna need one, as that server WILL be vulnerable, because its gonna be able to hold viruses that your clients might be succeptable to.
[05:17] <jason8> bastid i got it installed via PC monitor and i get the same message when switching to my TV
[05:17] <robbmunson> noob123: this is for instance if you were to make a mail server out of your ubuntu server installation...but thats a whole different story.
[05:17] <noob123> sry robbmunson i didnt mean to make it seem like im adhd im also reading the valuable info on viruses (or really lack of viruses) on ubuntu and i really appreciate it
[05:17] <drizzt_> acovrig, windows has firewall
[05:18] <acovrig> drizzt_, but isn't built on one
[05:18] <robbmunson> noob123: no biggie, just trying to clear stuff up, not fussing :)
[05:18] <mom> acovrig, i think i tried to force kill the init process once and that didnt work :(
[05:18] <acovrig> lol
[05:18] <drizzt_> acovrig, it is built in
[05:19] <soreau> robbmunson: making a mail server out of a ubuntu server install?? You're making mountains out of molehills now! ;)
[05:19] <mataks> how to change console keymap?
[05:20] <robbmunson> soreau: hey, just giving scenarios as to why you MIGHT need it...but for the most part you DONT ;)
[05:20] <mattl94> Sorry Didn't Know about the paste ,  When Running the Command it wont let me enter my password in that line
[05:20] <noob123> acovrig how do i get this add/remove programs for ubuntu?
[05:20] <janice> acovrig: hee mey    ps kill some id always works for me
[05:20] <bastid_raZor> jason8: what video card are you using?
[05:20] <acovrig> noob123, u using the newest ubuntu?
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  look in the Applications menu? the bottom icon? thats the 'beginners' package manager tool. :)
[05:20] <jason8> x300 ATI
[05:21] <soreau> mattl94: It does not show you entering your password.. you just type and it's invisible
[05:21] <noob123> yea 10.04
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> !manual | noob123
[05:21] <acovrig> janice, kill pidof <appname> or ps -A|grep <appname>; kill <pid from prev cmd>
[05:21] <noob123> oh thx dr willis
[05:22] <mattl94> thanks soreau
[05:22]  * Dr_Willis is glad the Ubuntu manual has a 'emphasis on easy to follow instructions'  instead of a Emphasis on like... 'getting your work done' or 'teaching you ubuntu basics'
[05:22] <acovrig> noob123, have you used linux before, or just windows?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> !tab | noob123
[05:22] <noob123> just windows
[05:22] <janice> acovrig: most times I use ps kill   (some pid id)
[05:23] <janice> acovrig: most times I use ps kill   (some process id)
[05:23] <acovrig> noob123, one of the biggest differences (I think) windows uses C:\path\to\folder, ubuntu (linux/unix) uses /path/to/file - / is the same as C:\
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> noob123:  and dont forget that file names and paths in linux ARE CaSe SeneSeTiVe.   file.txt is NOT the same as File.txt
[05:23] <robbmunson> and hda1 instead of C:\, lets not forget that acovrig
[05:23] <acovrig> janice, kinda funny pid id = process id id lol; me too, but I have to use ps -A|grep <app name> to get the pid
[05:24] <acovrig> robbmunson, but it could be sda1 ;)
[05:24] <noob123> i see
[05:24] <robbmunson> acovrig: true, been away too long! :(
[05:24] <janice> acovrig: ah pk  but I know what id I need to kill!
[05:24] <soreau> robbmunson: pgrep ftw
[05:24] <acovrig> lol
[05:25] <janice> acovrig: ah ok*  but I know what id I need to kill!
[05:25] <robbmunson> ive been away from linux for months, im having withdrawls (OFF TOPIC, I KNOW!)
[05:25] <dstufft> Anyone know of a better way of adding Modules to nginx (must be compiled in, no dynamic loading) then downloading the source and compiling the old fashion way?
[05:25] <noob123> you know i used to use cario dock but after some time it would become squished and then when i would go to applicatons those menus would be squished to...so i just stopped using cairo but anyone know what that happend?
[05:27] <patx> What computer is on the homepage? (www.ubuntu.com)
[05:27] <acovrig> robbmunson, away - why on earth lol
[05:27] <soreau> jason8: With the radeon driver (which is really the only one you can use that offers 3D for x300) you can use xrandr to configure outputs manually
[05:28] <zulgaban> hi
[05:28] <soreau> jason8: gnome-display-properties is a good frontend for xrandr but you can use xrandr in CLI to add different modes with different refresh rates and resolutions
[05:28] <soreau> jason8: You can get radeon-specific assistance in #radeon
[05:29] <bastid_raZor> jason8: it appears you need to snag the ati drivers from ati.
[05:29] <robbmunson> well, im headed out....
[05:29] <robbmunson> so good night all!
[05:29] <robbmunson> or, good morning!
[05:29] <noob123> thx robb
[05:29] <noob123> anyone know of any tweaks to get my ubuntu to run faster? i only got 512mb of ram
[05:29] <robbmunson> sure thing buddy.
[05:29] <alexh10> Im having a problem with ubuntu lucid. screen seems to crash. keyboard doesnt respond neither does the mouse.
[05:30] <janice> noob123: yeah upgrade your ram :P
[05:30] <iarp> i'm having an issue withtrying to restart vsftpd i've tried 3 different ways and nothing works, my next option was to uninstall and reinstall it. http://pastebin.com/hReNrpJD
[05:31] <SoftwareExplorer> alexh10: That seems to happen to me too when I log out of one user and I should be sent back to an already logged in user. When does it happen to you? Randomly?
[05:31] <alexh10> SoftwareExplorer: Yes it seems to be Randomly.
[05:33] <alexh10> SoftwareExplorer: I tried ctrl + alt + F1 And nothing. Only way out is to turn off the PC and back on.
[05:34] <janice> noob123: please dont PM me
[05:34] <soreau> alexh10: What causes this again? I didn't see your question
[05:34] <alexh10> SoftwareExplorer: This is Ubuntu lucid only. I had never happend in Ubuntu Jaunty.
[05:34] <alexh10> soreau: having a problem with ubuntu lucid. screen seems to crash. keyboard doesnt respond neither does the mouse
[05:35] <soreau> alexh10: Yes but what causes this or when does it happen?
[05:35] <SoftwareExplorer> alexh10: I doubt I can help you much, but what happens if you do Ctrl + Alt +SysRq+K ? That should restart the screen without having  to shutdown (if the keyboard can actually send the message)
[05:35] <drizzt_> alexh10, linux was not designed to run on moder hardware
[05:35] <soreau> drizzt_: That doesn't even make sense
[05:36] <alexh10> Oh my computer is old. 2002. 1GB. And this happens completely random.
[05:36] <janice> drizzt_:  ????
[05:36] <default> alt-tab isn't working with lucid..  did fresh install over 9.10 with separate /home partition,,    any ideas?
[05:36] <bastid_raZor> drizzt_: please be helpful.
[05:36] <evilsherpa> alexh10, if you have a wierless check the batteries - had that experience, and rebooted and all this crap, and it was flat batteries
[05:36] <drizzt_> it was designed to undercut Unix for using on mainframes and later web- and mailservers
[05:37] <soreau> alexh10: I had a similar issue recently, on a machine from around the same time frame using an upgrade from jaunty. A clean install of 10.04 fixed it
[05:37] <acovrig> noob123, u should ask ubottu basic questions, to start type '/msg ubottu ubotu'
[05:37] <alexh10> Also, the last time this happened, i was using chronium and I clicked on an icon. that was it.
[05:37] <bastid_raZor> soreau: you've finally caught up with the rest of the world :P
[05:37] <janice> drizzt_:  undercut Unix   HAHA
[05:37] <soreau> bastid_raZor: Slow down there, I still use arch as my primary ;)
[05:37] <SoftwareExplorer> soreau: Did you have new settings? A fresh install with the old /home files didn't fix it for me.
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> alexh10:  it could be hardware related on older pc's.  whens the last time it had a good cleaning/dusting out?
[05:38] <sylon> what pkg is msgmerge in ubuntu?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> !find msgmerge
[05:38] <alexh10> soreau: I installed lucid fresh. no upgrade. Im also using a desktop computer. So no batteries.
[05:38] <drizzt_> sylon, gettext
[05:38] <sylon> thx
[05:38] <soreau> alexh10: SoftwareExplorer: The machine would just stop responding after about an hour or more of inactivity. Then it just wouldn't respond to ping or any input
[05:39] <soreau> alexh10: Are you using old home settings folder?
[05:39] <bastid_raZor> soreau: resistance is futile. you will be assimalated
[05:39] <alexh10> Dr_Willis: Could be. I try with some bottle of compressed air but that was quite some time ago. But this never happened with Jaunty
[05:39] <soreau> bastid_raZor: gentoo and ubuntu are on the other partitions, settle down ;)
[05:39] <soreau> bastid_raZor: I use ubuntu for my older boxes and my server
[05:39] <bastid_raZor> soreau: heh
[05:39] <SoftwareExplorer> soreau: Hm, I must have had something different, if I ssh in and kill all Xorg's with -9 signal it starts behaving (until the next time)
[05:39] <acovrig> anyone know how to fix `modprobe opl3sa`?
[05:40] <alexh10> soreau: Im not sure how to answer that. I never changed anything. Its a fresh installed Ubuntu lucid.
[05:40] <soreau> SoftwareExplorer: My issue was a bit more severe, I could not ssh in or even ping it
[05:41] <janice> acovrig: should that not be   modprobe alsa?
[05:41] <dwg_> hello
[05:41] <soreau> alexh10: I see. Well next thing I would look into is trying to ssh into the box from another machine on the network if that is an option for you; otherwise check /var/log/messages for anything interesting and finally, suspect a hardware issue
[05:41] <janice> acovrig: but that should not be needed really
[05:42] <acovrig> janice, I'm using an *old* computer ;) (Yamaha OPL3-SA FM Synthesizer - onboard), and I need to modprobe opl3sa to get sound
[05:42] <soreau> acovrig: So why can't you?
[05:42] <acovrig> janice, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/11868
[05:43] <alexh10> soreau: I couldnt find anything in the var/log I didnt look too hard either. but I tried the xserver log thing. I doubt its the hardware. But I think Im going to reinstall ubuntu lucid from scratch.
[05:43] <janice> acovrig:  ah ok then!
[05:43] <zheng> m
[05:43] <acovrig> `modprobe opl3sa` returns 'FATAL: Module opl3sa not found.'
[05:43] <Fudge> anyone know if its possible to create a desktop shortcut to a remote computer youve saved in bookmarks or the places menu?
[05:44] <janice> acovrig:  maybe theres no module for it
[05:44] <soreau> acovrig: That bug report link is not loading here. What is telling you to load this module?
[05:44] <bastid_raZor> Fudge: drag it from the places menu to the desktop?
[05:44] <drizzt_> that bug was opened in 2005
[05:44] <Fudge> i cant use a mouse but have tried to copy it to and it doesnt work?
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> cant use a mouse? Hmm.
[05:45] <acovrig> soreau, 'opl3sa2 blacklisted by alsa-base but ALSA module is not a perfect substitute' - 'not a perfect substitute'=I get no sound
[05:45] <soreau> acovrig: Does modprobe snd-opl3sa2 work?
[05:45] <Fudge> well i can but im blind and cant see pointer
[05:45] <damian> how do you remove a mod (ie, modprobe mod)?
[05:45] <janice> Fudge: try a usb mouse
[05:45] <Random832> damian: rmmod
[05:46] <bastid_raZor> damian: modprobe -r module
[05:46] <acovrig> soreau, same reply - if it means anything, this is a cmd-line barebones install, don't assume I have a package
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> compiz has that nice ZOOM feature on windowkey+mousewheel :) thats the wifes fave feature
[05:46] <damian> hrm, it's so odd.
[05:46] <damian> thanks!
[05:46] <Fudge> how is a usb mouse goign to help me see the pointer lmao
[05:46] <soreau> acovrig: snd-opl3sa2.ko is provided by the linux kernel
[05:46] <soreau> Dr_Willis: I can't live without compiz ezoom
[05:46] <damian> i do 'modprobe saehruash' it comes up with FATAL: Module not found'
[05:47] <damian> i do 'modprobe r8168' and it doesn't output anything
[05:47] <bastid_raZor> Fudge: heh, when it is opened from places it creates an icon on the desktop
[05:47] <janice> Fudge: I thought you had no mouse at all
[05:47] <Fudge> nah janice  not much sight, thats right it does create the icon so can you make it stay there?
[05:47] <soreau> damian: What makes you think that's a valid module?
[05:47] <llgk> ?
[05:48] <damian> r8168 i installed last night
[05:48] <acovrig> soreau, no sound, and modprobe snd-opl13sa2 doesn't work
[05:48] <janice> Fudge: do I understand   your sight is poor?
[05:48] <damian> 'seahruash' was my test to see what it outputted if the module definitely DOESN'T exist
[05:48] <damian> so i assume it outputs 'FATAL: ..' when the module doesn't exist
[05:48] <damian> and outputs nothing when the module doesn't work
[05:49] <janice> Fudge: you could try high contrast then
[05:49] <soreau> acovrig: Does 'lsmod|grep snd' show there is already an audio module loaded?
[05:49] <ross> i am having problems with youtube, when i try to maximize the screen, the browser closes on me
[05:49] <Guest28407> i am having problems with youtube, when i try to maximize the screen, the browser closes on me
[05:49] <soreau> damian: No output typically indicates success
[05:49] <Guest28407> can someone please help
[05:49] <drizzt_> Fudge, that places are in ~/.gtk-bookmarks file
[05:49] <acovrig> sareau, lsmod|grep snd returns null and alsa reload -unloading alsa sound modules: (none loaded)
[05:49] <damian> ah, well the card doesn't work, so i want to remove the driver, but wehn i rmmod/modprobe -r it doesn't output anything either, lol
[05:49] <cllaudyu> i have a problem with chromium i cant uninstall it!
[05:50] <damian> (i mistakenly installed r8168 when it's r8169 i needed)
[05:50] <damian> and now the system doesn't show the card at all
[05:50] <jason8> is there A REMOTE DESKTOP LIKE WINDOWS
[05:50] <damian> in lshw or lspci, where it did before
[05:50] <acovrig> jason8, viewer or server?
[05:50] <drizzt_> jason8, yes
[05:50] <janice> jason8: RDP
[05:50] <Jordan_U> Guest28407: I find that browsing youtube via totem (Applications > Sound and Video > Movie Player) is better than brosing via a web browser.
[05:51] <acovrig> Jordan_U how does that work?
[05:51] <jason8> YEAH I WANNA VIEW THE NEW UBUNTU ON MY LAPTOP
[05:51] <Jordan_U> !caps | jason8
[05:51] <janice> jason8: stop shouting!
[05:51] <bastid_raZor> Fudge: create a launcher to mount the remote box, but i'm guessing it will add a 2nd icon with the actual mounted place
[05:51] <k-rad> someone using ubuntu as long as i have has a odd question i've never asked.  how can i tell what in my /home directory is taking up so much space ?
[05:51] <cllaudyu> i have a problem with chromium i cant uninstall it! can someone help?
[05:51] <Jordan_U> acovrig: Totem has a youtube plugin.
[05:51] <acovrig> jason8, vinagre is the built-in VNC viewer
[05:51] <jason8> my bad i have fat fingers that love caps
[05:52] <acovrig> lol
[05:52] <drizzt_> jason8, try xrdp
[05:52] <janice> jason8: try vinagre
[05:52] <jason8> so my mouse battrys died soi give up on ubuntu for tonight
[05:53] <acovrig> Jordan_U, open location youtube.com?
[05:53] <Guest28407> it doesn't work
[05:53] <Guest28407> jordan_u it doesn'[t work
[05:53] <drizzt_> janice, i believe he needs server
[05:53] <damian> k-rad, check out the 'du' command, it will show you what space each directory is using, if you use it in /home it'll tell you what user is doing it
[05:53] <jason8> one day ill figure it out danm TV
[05:53] <bkadoctaj> lol  Okay, I'd better just ask... anyone know how I might run an alternate conky config file from the bar_action option in .scrotwm.conf?
[05:53] <acovrig> Jordan_U, nevermind, I found it as/in the sidebar lol
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> bkadoctaj:  conky -c /path/to/other/config.conkyrc     no idea on the rest of it.
[05:54] <damian> # du --max-depth=1 -h /home
[05:54] <Jordan_U> acovrig: Guest28407: Click the drop down menu in the top right labeled "Playlist" and choose "YouTube" instead.
[05:54] <damian> should be what you're after
[05:54] <janice> drizzt_: yeah probely
[05:54] <acovrig> brb
[05:54] <cllaudyu> damn i cant get rid of chromium
[05:54] <drizzt_> someone thought that call the WM 'scrotum' is funny?
[05:54] <bkadoctaj> Dr_Willis: I actually tried that but scrotwm does not appear to accept that syntax, even when it's all quoted.
[05:55] <bastid_raZor> bkadoctaj: not sure about .scrotwm.conf .. but for conky you can run as many you like.. conky -c /path/to/conkyrc
[05:55] <drizzt_> bkadoctaj, tried quotes?
[05:55] <janice> drizzt_: hehe!
[05:55] <bkadoctaj> bastid_raZor, yeah, that syntax doesn't work, and drizzt_, not even in quotes.
[05:55] <janice> drizzt_: very OT though!
[05:56] <bastid_raZor> bkadoctaj: maybe the .scrotwm.conf requires full path? /path/to/conky -c /path/to/conkyrc
[05:56] <jason8> ok i hsve a file called .run how do i run it
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> bkadoctaj:  no idea. check their forums.. or make a script called 'startconky' that does the actual command
[05:56] <bkadoctaj> Dr_Willis: that is a great idea.  lol!
[05:56] <Guest28407> jordan_u ok that's pretty cool - but why does the browser closes when i maximize
[05:56] <bkadoctaj> bastid_raZor: did try that, thanks for the idea though.
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> bkadoctaj:  i got a lot of little 'conky mini configs' for specific tasks.
[05:57] <Guest28407> jordan_u on youtube - it doesn't make any sense
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> Guest28407:  i would guess. that flash is crashing the browser.. thats why its closeing
[05:57] <Guest28407> dr_willis how do i fix it? is there a way?
[05:57] <soreau> Guest28407: Do you mean try to make youtube go full screen?
[05:57] <bastid_raZor> jason8: be in the same directory as the .run and then ./file.run ..also you may need to make it executable .. chmod +x file.run
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> no idea. I dont worry about flash too much.
[05:57] <janice> drizzt_: that was a joke right?
[05:57] <Guest28407> soreau yes
[05:58] <bkadoctaj> Dr_Willis: what's the expected directory for the script in .scrotwm.conf?
[05:58] <Jordan_U> Guest28407: Flash on linux is pretty bad. If you use google chrome then only flash will crash and not the whole browser.
[05:58] <Guest28407> soreau it crashes on me everytime and I don't know why
[05:58] <SoftwareExplorer> k-rad: If you want to use the GUI the Disk Usage Analyzer (Baobab) does a good job.
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> bkadoctaj:  no idea.  ive never used scrotwm
[05:58] <soreau> Guest28407: Have you tried running 'firefox' in a terminal then crashing it to see if there's any interesting output?
[05:58] <bkadoctaj> Dr_Willis: okay, thanks.  :)
[05:58] <Guest28407> soreau no how do you do that
[05:58] <soreau> ! terminal | Guest28407
[05:59] <Guest28407> soreau so the general concensus is that flash is horrible for linux?
[05:59] <koshari> Guest28407: flash is horrible period
[05:59] <Guest28407> ok
[05:59] <soreau> Guest28407: The general consensus is that we cannot do anything to fix proprietary closed source software
[05:59] <bkadoctaj> koshari: truth.
[05:59] <Guest28407> soreau ok thank you
[06:00] <Jordan_U> Guest28407: It's more horrid on linux though :)
[06:00] <soreau> Guest28407: Flash is closed source, gnash is an open alternative though I do not know how well it works (if at all)
[06:00] <Guest28407> soreau ok...i've never heard of gnash
[06:00] <electrofreak> AAA: could a missing initrd.img explain what was happening to me before?
[06:00] <soreau> ! gnash
[06:00] <Guest28407> soreau but at least i can use movie player to view full screen
[06:00] <janice> personally never had any problems with flash
[06:01] <drizzt_> does gnash support Flash 10?
[06:01] <Guest28407> ok thank you
[06:02] <soreau> Guest28407: I would recommend first running firefox in your terminal then crashing it to see if there's any interesting output. Then if it's just youtube you want, use Jordan_U's suggestion about using totem
[06:03] <Guest28407> soreau how?
[06:03] <janice> Guest28407: youtube does require a working flash plugin
[06:03] <bkadoctaj> Dr_Willis: thanks!  It worked.  :)
[06:03] <Guest28407> soreau how do you run firefox in the terminal and crash it - can you run me through it ?
[06:04] <soreau> Guest28407: 1) Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal 2) Type 'firefox' without quotes 3) Press enter
[06:04] <Guest28407> soreau ok then what keep going i'll try it out
[06:04] <acovrig> Guest28407, open the terminal, type firefox, wait for it to open, then precc Ctrl+c to crash it
[06:04] <soreau> Guest28407: After you press enter, it should launch a firefox window. Navigate to youtube and crash the browser
[06:05] <soreau> Guest28407: Then, review the output in the terminal
[06:06] <janice> Guest28407: firefox needs the flash plugin to view youtube
[06:06] <soreau> hm.
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> Guest28407:  youtube can do html5 with some other browsers.. so you can bypass flash. :)
[06:06] <soreau> Yea that's a good point..
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> actually isent youtube using that WebM codec now for some things?
[06:06] <Guest28407> (firefox-bin:14131): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[06:06] <Guest28407> what's that
[06:06] <Sp0t> does anyone have experience with installing XAMPP on linux?
[06:06] <soreau> Guest28407: You can ignore that
[06:07] <ivo_> steak for breakfast ...
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> !lampp
[06:07] <ivo_> :D
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> !lamp
[06:07] <soreau> Guest28407: While you're in the terminal, do 'dpkg -l|grep flashplugin' and show the output
[06:07] <acovrig> Dr_Willis: I bet youtube is detecting firefox and requiring flash
[06:07] <Sp0t> Dr_Willis: I know, better know as LAMP
[06:07] <Guest28407> ok then what
[06:07] <soreau> Guest28407: Any output from 'dpkg -l|grep flashplugin'?
[06:08] <janice> Guest28407: first off  is flash installed?
[06:08] <Flannel> Sp0t: It's best to use LAMP on Linux instead of XAMPP, the benefits of having it all packaged like that for windows turn into hinderances on Linux
[06:08] <Sp0t> it worked out fine but after starting LAMP, it tells me there is another web server daemon running already, it is not the XAMPP-apache
[06:08] <Guest28407> soreau yes - ii flashplugin-installer <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1 adobe flash player plugin installer
[06:08] <rww> !xampp
[06:08] <soreau> janice: We're getting there, settle down ;)
[06:08] <Guest28407> and then
[06:08] <Guest28407> ii flashplugin-nonfree adobe flash player plugin installer (transit
[06:08] <Flannel> Sp0t: So you've got LAMP and XAMPP installed?
[06:08] <soreau> Guest28407: Ok, try uninstalling flashplugin-nonfree package, then restart firefox and try again
[06:09] <samatoms> I did an update to Ubuntu today and saw "libdata-google-2-1..." does anyone have any idea what this is or how to find out?
[06:09] <acovrig> anyone know how to have irssi run a cmd when a hilighted msg is recieved?
[06:09] <soreau> acovrig: #irssi
[06:09] <Guest28407> soreau ok - what's the command for uninstall packages?
[06:09] <acovrig> soreau: thanks
[06:09] <soreau> Guest28407: sudo apt-get remove <pkg-name>
[06:09] <rww> acovrig: investigate trigger.pl on http://scripts.irssi.org/
[06:10] <bkadoctaj> Guest28407: sudo apt-get remove package
[06:10] <sysdoc> I need to create a DOS boot USB does anyone have a quick and dirty method for linux?
[06:10] <Sp0t> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/11rW3Yrj
[06:10] <Flannel> samatoms: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libgdata-google1.2-1  Google services through SOAP.
[06:10] <samatoms> thaks Flannel
[06:11] <Guest28407> ah i can't lock the administration directory right now, curently updating ...
[06:11] <Flannel> Sp0t: Don't use XAMPP on Linux, use a proper LAMP stack, you'll have fewer problems and you'll be safer.
[06:11] <Guest28407> 5 minutes and i'll remove flash
[06:11] <rooibos> screwing up the mbr can make your whole hd unbootable. if this happens, would you be able to fresh reinstall the OS(es)? (i'm trying to decide between messing with the mbr and fresh installing.)
[06:11] <bkadoctaj> rooibos: what is your goal?
[06:12]  * soreau is installing gnash for the first time
[06:12] <janice> rooibos: if your not dual booting then kill your mbr
[06:12] <drizzt_> rooibos, you always can boot from floppy
[06:12] <Sp0t> ok will have a look at a proper LAMP stack
[06:12] <rooibos> bkadoctaj: my goal is to clean out the mbr, but i may want to repartition the whole hd anyway
[06:12] <drizzt_> rooibos, cleanit out from what?
[06:13] <Flannel> Sp0t: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:13] <Sp0t> thanks Flannel
[06:13] <bkadoctaj> There's a dd command that'll do what you're looking for, rooibos, but I think that would complicate things.
[06:13] <Guest28407> be back in 10...then we'll figure this damn flash bug out!!!
[06:14] <bkadoctaj> rooibos: can't you just install your OSes and let them install their bootloader to the MBR?
[06:14] <rooibos> drizzt_: this is for my macbook. i want to remove grub from mbr.
[06:14] <drizzt_> bkadoctaj, you cannot just dd over mbr, it will destroy partition table
[06:14] <janice> soreau: look like he never had a proper flash install!
[06:15] <janice> soreau: looks* like he never had a proper flash install!
[06:15] <drizzt_> rooibos, look into MacOSX manual
[06:15] <bkadoctaj> drizzt_: not true.  There is a trick to it.  Using /dev/null and setting it to a single run of a certain blocksize.
[06:15] <bkadoctaj> I'm forgetting the number at the moment.
[06:16] <soreau> janice: What makes you say that?
[06:17] <janice> soreau: unable to view youtube for a start
[06:17] <rooibos> accidentally left the channel
[06:17] <soreau> I'm disappointed because I selected to install missing plugins, then selected gnash and it started working, asked for password then made ff and all related windows unresponsive
[06:17] <soreau> janice: I think you're confused
[06:17] <soreau> and/orconfusing
[06:17] <frank_> .rd
[06:17] <janice> soreau: about Guest28407 ?
[06:18] <soreau> ah it's still d/l'ing
[06:18] <soreau> shouldn't make the ff window gray and not focusable though :P
[06:18] <soreau> janice: In general, I'd guess
[06:18] <janice> soreau: in general?
[06:19] <soreau> bbiab, store
[06:19] <Guest28407> soreau ok
[06:20] <Guest28407> soreau i removed flash and now i opened up youtube it says that i need to install it
[06:20] <bkadoctaj> Guest28407: are you on 32-bit or 64-bit?
[06:20] <soreau> Guest28407: I clicked on 'install missing plugins' and selected gnash
[06:20] <soreau> trying it out here as soon as it installs
[06:20] <janice> soreau: hehe flash problem   idiot
[06:20] <vu1kan1> !flash
[06:21] <Guest28407> 32
[06:21] <Guest28407> soreau - installing gnash
[06:21] <soreau> Guest28407: Note that it makes your browser windows unresponsive while d/l'ing/installing for some reason, or at least it did here
[06:21] <mattl94>   Hi ,  I try to run a sudo dpkg --configure -a to fix my update manager problems and i get this error  http://paste.ubuntu.com/452324/
[06:23] <drizzt_> mattl94, try removing everyhting in .../updates folder
[06:23] <soreau> aww, gnash just gives 'an error occurred, try again later' in the flash window
[06:23] <soreau> No wonder I hadn't heard much positive hype about gnash
[06:23] <Guest28407> soreau - yes i had to close it now i think i need to reinstall it again
[06:23] <Guest28407> soreau - sudo apt-get install gnash?
[06:24] <voss749> gnash is the sound your teeth make while you try to use it.
[06:24] <user___> how i can compile using g++ ?
[06:24] <soreau> Guest28407: I just tested and gnash does not work here
[06:24] <soreau> Guest28407: Be back in a few, have to run out for a bit
[06:24] <Guest28407> doesn't work here either
[06:24] <user___> how i can compile using g++ ?
[06:24] <Guest28407> soreau - damn text me once you get back
[06:24] <vu1kan1> !patience | user__
[06:25] <mattl94> it wont actualy let me delete the files in that folder
[06:25] <Guest28407> soreau - brb too reboot
[06:25] <Fudge> anyone got ri-li installed?
[06:27] <vu1kan1> fudge i tried to use it in 8.04...never could get the darn thing to work(but i'm pretty noobish...some guru might pop in later that can help ya)
[06:27] <abhi_nav> user___, g++ filename.c
[06:27] <abhi_nav> user___, then a.out
[06:28] <ross> soreau tell me when you get back
[06:28] <user___> abhi_nav: do have more information i can read about how programming in linux ?
[06:29] <abhi_nav> user___, you can visit documentation / wiki of that resp. programming language
[06:29] <drizzt_> user___, there's mostly the same stuff: gcc, autotools, etc
[06:29] <zetheroo> hey guys, a friend of mine just did the upgrade form Karmic to Lucid and now when he boots he is brought to a terminal screen with "Grub recovery" sitting there ... what to do?
[06:32] <user___> Im reading a book " C++ for linux" is base in redhat do you think i can still reading regality is from redhat and im using ubuntu 10.04
[06:33] <kermit> user___: i'm sure it all applies.. though most linux software is still using ordinary C
[06:33] <maco> user___: programming is programming. if it somehow works on red hat and not on ubuntu, something is majorly broken.   ... or its really outdated and relying on libraries that have changed massively
[06:33] <Fudge> this works but i dont know the keyboard commands
[06:33] <maco> kermit: kde is all C++
[06:33] <daniel__> heya new here and too linux is there any beginner rooms ???
[06:33] <maco> daniel__: you're in it
[06:33] <bkadoctaj> kermit: thank goodness.
[06:33] <daniel__> lol
[06:33] <daniel__> thanks
[06:33] <kermit> maco: interesting
[06:33] <ayllu> hi, some one can help me. My 3d games are running slow.
[06:33] <maco> kermit: a couple of python apps, but by and large...C++ for kde
[06:33] <abhi_nav> !hi | daniel__
[06:33] <daniel__> hi abhi_nav
[06:33] <abhi_nav> user___, its good
[06:34] <daniel__> o yes i remember how to do that
[06:34] <daniel__> been years since i used irc
[06:34] <daniel__> can i slap someone with a salmon trout ?
[06:34] <drizzt_> daniel__, there's no such thing as 'Linux beginner'
[06:35] <daniel__> you just met one
[06:35] <rod1> Anyone know any possible solution to blurry letters in ubuntu 10 ?
[06:35] <daniel__> new glasses
[06:35] <rod1> zing
[06:35] <daniel__> less beer
[06:36] <drizzt_> rod1, swith off antialiasing
[06:36] <rod1> k gonna try!
[06:36] <Broot> heyh guys
[06:36] <Broot> hey guys
[06:37] <drizzt_> why Ubuntu designers are so crazy about gradient pixmaps? they're so lame
[06:37] <Broot> why is our 64 bit edition of ubuntu behind windows 7 64 bit? i wanna use my dang ram ya know?
[06:37] <drizzt_> Broot, because Windows 7 has 1 developer, unlike Linux
[06:37] <daniel__> i dont know anything really about linux except  it works
[06:38] <rod1> switching off anti-aliasing is done system>monitor ?
[06:38] <drizzt_> rod1, are you on Gnome?
[06:38] <rod1> yes
[06:38] <daniel__> i used vista the other day and it paused coughed crashed like 5 times in a half hour
[06:38] <drizzt_> rod1, system->preferences->appearance
[06:38] <Broot> can i use my brand new computer's hardware virtualization abilities like with virtualbox and ubuntu install to play good 3d games?
[06:39] <drizzt_> daniel__, tell those stories elsewhere. bye.
[06:39] <jaldhar> hello.  Did the latest lucid updates kill network-manager/knetworkmanager?
[06:39] <daniel__> huh
[06:39] <ayllu> hi, some one can help me. My 3d games are running slow.
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> jaldhar:  not that ive seen. people in #kubuntu mauy know more
[06:39] <drizzt_> Broot, virtualbox don't have 3d acceleraion possible, even if it claims so
[06:39] <Broot> oh
[06:39] <rod1> hmm no specific antialiasing options there
[06:40] <Broot> gosh darn :(
[06:40] <jaldhar> Because knetworkmanager just says "Network Management disabled"
[06:40] <drizzt_> rod1, it's on 'Fonts' tab
[06:40] <daniel__> this isnt much of a beginners room
[06:40] <Broot> i could install our ubuntu like in a dual boot
[06:40] <Broot> but is it good for game playing
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> depends on the game
[06:40] <soreau> ayllu: Which card do you have per the output of 'lspci|grep VGA'?
[06:40] <maco> daniel__: this is the usual tech support room. if you need help, you can ask here
[06:40] <Broot> any 3d game.. maybe even online massive games
[06:40] <drizzt_> Broot, if you prefer clones on 2000-era games, yes
[06:40] <jaldhar> Dr_Willis: #kubuntu is a bit quiet atm so I thought I'd ask here
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> If you want the best windows game experience..  use windows
[06:40] <abhi_nav> daniel__, there is #ubuntu-beginners
[06:41] <drizzt_> Broot, you may try wine, but it work very bad
[06:41] <ayllu> y have nvidia 7100 gs
[06:41] <xorwhy> I need an application that will let me know when changes occur on a web page, and what those changes are
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Broot:  thats very broad.. some 3d games and mmopgs work very well in wine
[06:41] <xorwhy> ideally, it would send a popup to libgnotify with the contents of the change
[06:41] <Broot> i want it to work on my ubuntu
[06:41] <maco> daniel__: i guarantee there are no questions thatll get you told off for asking something too beginner here. if anyone tries it, i will kick them from the room
[06:41] <k-rad> do shared network storage have a mount point i have a network servers icon on my desktop but my backintime-gnome my "select a folder"  does not show "Network Folders" as a listable folder.  i must find some way to easily backup via samba
[06:41] <soreau> abhi_nav: How do new users even figure out how to make it to that channel?
[06:41] <Broot> playonlinux an wine was too much of a mess last time i tried a simple game like fallout 3
[06:41] <daniel__> shouldnt you have said that when i ask when i got into this room
[06:41] <ayllu> my compiz is working good, but in game like flithgear is slow
[06:42] <abhi_nav> soreau, they can ask here that if there is any begineer ubuntu channel and I wll tell them that #ubuntu-beginners
[06:42] <abhi_nav> or whatever the correct spelliing is
[06:42] <daniel__> i asked when i first got here
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> fallout 3 is  not a 'simple' game.
[06:42] <maco> abhi_nav: is that channel used as a tech support channel? i didnt think it was
[06:42] <daniel__> think it was the first or second line i typed
[06:42] <xorwhy> does linux offer free wifi?
[06:42] <maco> abhi_nav: i thought #ubuntu-beginners was only for when there were actual organized classes happening
[06:42] <abhi_nav> maco,  question was not about tech channel or not question was about begineers channel
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> xorwhy:  that makes no sence...   McDonolds and other stores/places offer free wifi.
[06:43] <soreau> abhi_nav: That seems really overly complicated for a new user (to me anyway)
[06:43] <rod1> lol played with various font settings, i still see all fonts blurry ( for example I see 2 flashes vertical bars when idle )
[06:43] <drizzt_> Dr_Willis, all WIndows bethesda games cannot be played under wine
[06:43] <Broot> i want very popular ubuntu open gl latest and greatest mmo graphics rpg or something
[06:43] <abhi_nav> soreau, hmmm
[06:43] <soreau> abhi_nav: That would entail you being present to tell them about the channel and how to join it
[06:43] <xorwhy> lol, i was totally trolling
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> drizzt_:  No idea. I dont try.
[06:43] <maco> daniel__: sorry i assumed you wanted a place you could ask a question, in which case the answer is here.  if you just want to know where beginner classes are occasionally held and where the beginners team which answers questions on the forum hang out, thatd be #ubuntu-beginners
[06:43] <abhi_nav> hmm soreau  you have any ubuntu question right now?
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> drizzt_:  i was able to get Lord Of the Rings Online working very well :) finaly.
[06:44] <daniel__> [15:33] <daniel__> heya new here and too linux is there any beginner rooms ???
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> !manual | daniel__
[06:44] <rod1> anyone know if blurry font could be driver issue ?
[06:44] <maco> daniel__: yes i saw that when you asked the first time and i told you here since i thought "i am new" meant you had questions to ask. are you going to ask questions?
[06:44] <mattl94> how do i change files as a root user not as a normal admin user
[06:45] <maco> daniel__: this is certainly not an advanced-users-only channel. its an *every* user channel
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> mattl94:  clarify what you are doing.. doing some of that stuff can damage your system.
[06:45] <daniel__> not in here too quick and smart for me
[06:45] <maco> daniel__: just ignore anything that's not said directly to you
[06:45] <k-rad> is amazon web storage inexpensive ?
[06:46] <mattl94> I am trying to remove some update files that are breaking my update manager
[06:46] <mattl94> it was sugestued earlier on to me
[06:46] <drizzt_> mattl94, sudo rm obviously
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> mattl94:  remove what files exactly?
[06:46] <ejwaxx> drizzt_: except for a recent sound effect regression, i have oblivion and fallout 3 both running under wine.  requires some tweaking to be sure, but it isn't fair to say "all windows bethesda games cannot be played under wine"
[06:46] <maco> daniel__: see how i'm saying your name at the start of the line? that means you'll get some sort of notification that im talking to you. text may be a differen colour? if you're looking at something other than your client, you may get a popup?  same'll happen to someone else if you say their name. if you only bother with whats said to you, its not so fast
[06:46] <soreau> drizzt_: rm: cannot remove `obviously': No such file or directory
[06:47] <mattl94>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/452324/  files in this folder
[06:47] <rod1> hmm I changed my RES to 800x600 and its very crisp text now :) , only its a resolution for grandparents
[06:47] <bkadoctaj> This is a great channel.  :)
[06:47] <jaldhar> This is strange.  I am currently connected by a wired connection.  However network-manager doesn't automatically bring the interface up anymore.  I have to manually run dhclient
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> mattl94:  carefully use 'sudo rm /path/to/whatever/' and be carefull you dont make typos.
[06:48] <mattl94> is that through terminal ?
[06:48] <bkadoctaj> jaldhar: you mean the icon in the panel doesn't exist?
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> mattl94:  of course.
[06:48] <daniel__> so everything red is mine
[06:48] <drizzt_> mattl94, you can run your file manager as root
[06:48] <maco> daniel__: yep
[06:48] <jaldhar> bkadoctaj: for knetworkmanager?  The icon is there but it is disabled
[06:49]  * Dr_Willis has had to 'help fix' way to many cases where people break things after running their file manager as root...
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:49] <maco> daniel__: does that help make sense of the channel/room ?
[06:49] <bkadoctaj> jaldhar: Ah... you're using knetworkmanager...  I know next to nothing of KDE...  sorry.
[06:49] <daniel__> yeah also been a long time since i been on irc
[06:49] <abuayyoub> hello
[06:49] <bkadoctaj> abuayyoub: ahoy.
[06:49] <daniel__> so think i will be trying to catch up quick
[06:49] <jaldhar> bkadoctaj: however it is looking more like a network-manager problem
[06:50] <abhi_nav> jaldhar, see if network manager config file and if there are settings stored by other progrma then comment it and then network manager will run
[06:50] <maco> daniel__: likewise i only get notified that you're talking to me if you say my name ;-)
[06:50] <drizzt_> it is not file manager's problem that ext filesystem has problems with permissions
[06:50] <dissected> hello
[06:50] <bkadoctaj> dissected: ahoy.
[06:50] <bkadoctaj> :)
[06:50] <linux> hello i havent edited my iptables and found this when i got connected to internet ,can any body tell me whats going ,the results of iptables are in paste bin link http://pastebin.com/9ckmb0q3
[06:50] <abuayyoub> anyone know about video formats? I have some video files that have 2 audio files, german and English. For some reason the German is default, is there some way I can change that?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  most of the media players can select defaults.
[06:51] <daniel__> maco:  did that work then
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  check out vlc and mplayer (smplayer) and  their configs./settings
[06:51] <maco> daniel__: yep
[06:51] <drizzt_> abuayyoub, is those pirated videofiles?
[06:52] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis, drizzt_  thanks ill check
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  they have 2+ audio 'traks' is the proper term i belive
[06:52]  * dissected has a weird ACPI problem
[06:52] <daniel__> can i just ask one question for now why is there so many problems with wireless in 10.04
[06:52] <jaldhar> abhi_nav: there do not seem to be other settings anywhere
[06:52] <mattl94> drizzit how do i run file manager as root
[06:52] <linux> and by default there are no rules in iptabes that means i have firewall inactive?all incoming and outgoing connection are permitted or
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  actually i have less problems with wireless in 10.04 then i have with earlier releases
[06:52] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis,  yea
[06:53] <abhi_nav> jaldhar, in the etc/interfaces/sources file
[06:53] <dissected> on an HP zd7000 laptop, removing power brightens the backlight, and darkens it when on AC power
[06:53] <dissected> should be the opposite
[06:53] <abhi_nav> jaldhar, sources or source
[06:53] <linux> did anyone read my query ?
[06:53] <linux> hello i havent edited my iptables and found this when i got connected to internet ,can any body tell me whats going ,the results of iptables are in paste bin link http://pastebin.com/9ckmb0q3
[06:53] <linux> and by default there are no rules in iptabes that means i have firewall inactive?all incoming and outgoing connection are permitted or
[06:53] <daniel__> i couldnt get it to work properly and found a 9.10 version and everything works sweet
[06:53] <FloodBot3> linux: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> mattl94:  sudo rm  /that/path/to/that/file/you/want/to/delete       will delete that file (0000) i think it was called.. dont get in the habbit of running nautilus as root.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> mattl94:  it pays to learn the basics of the shell
[06:54] <BeWop> Hello, I need help with my video repos.
[06:54] <daniel__> what is nautilus
[06:54] <BeWop> Anyone a pro at that?
[06:54] <drizzt_> daniel__, because you cannot have something for nothing: only commercial distros have no problems
[06:54] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: that's Gnome Desktop Environment's file manager.
[06:54] <maco> daniel__: the file browser that opens when you click something in the Places menu
[06:54] <bkadoctaj> It's like Finder in Mac OS X.
[06:54] <bkadoctaj> Or Explorer in Windows.
[06:54] <daniel__> ahh ok
[06:55] <BeWop> is there any way to disable libgl.so.1 without uninstalling any other program?
[06:55] <greezmunkey> Or like file manager in Windows 3.0
[06:55] <greezmunkey> except way better...
[06:55] <k-rad> do shared network storage have a mount point i have a network servers icon on my desktop but my backintime-gnome my "select a folder"  does not show "Network Folders" as a listable folder.  i must find some way to easily backup via samba
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> k-rad:  check in /home/Yourusername/.gvfs
[06:56] <k-rad> thank you Dr_Willis
[06:56] <jaldhar> abhi_nav: ??? You mean /etc/network/interfaces?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> k-rad:  or just mount the share via fstab/command line to some set location Not in the users /home/XXX
[06:56] <k-rad> i could try that yes
[06:56] <daniel__> so there are different desktop enviroments yes
[06:56] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis,  is there a code or something for language settings in VLC?> in Audio settings it says Preferred Audio Language to En, English,Us, USA, UK and it's still in German.
[06:57] <bkadoctaj> daniel__ yep.
[06:57] <abhi_nav> jaldhar, If your network connection is listed in /etc/network/interfaces, it is unavailable to NetworkManager with it's default setup (read this to see how to change it to manage these connections: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager ). The best option for a standard setup is to open the file using
[06:57] <abhi_nav> sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:57] <abhi_nav> and comment out (ie put a # in front of) or delete every line in the /etc/network/interfaces file except the two with lo in them- they read
[06:57] <abhi_nav> auto lo
[06:57] <FloodBot3> abhi_nav: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:57] <daniel__> and they have different versions of nautilus
[06:57] <abhi_nav> iface lo inet loopback
[06:57] <abhi_nav> sorry
[06:57] <BeWop> I installed libgl.so.1 as a dependancy for a game, and now my graphics card basically isn't working. But to uninstall it, it says I have to uninstall almost everything on my computer. Help?
[06:57] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: No, nautilus is integrated into Gnome.
[06:57] <dissected> BeWop,  "rm disable libgl.so.1"   :)
[06:57] <mikubuntu> i am having strange behaviors on this computer trying to install ubuntu ... i burned the disk using imgburn, i used the top left write to disc option .. when i put this disc in with windows running it gives me the little window to install ubuntu by inserting in tray and restarting, or install within windows
[06:57] <BeWop> dissected thanks
[06:57] <dissected> BeWop,  "rm libgl.so.1"   :)
[06:57] <dissected> rahter
[06:57] <dissected> BeWop, dont do that
[06:57] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: But you can replace it with something lighter.  Just like you could use nautilus in another DE.
[06:57] <BeWop> dissected why?
[06:57] <dissected> BeWop, I was being silly
[06:58] <BeWop> dissected oh =P
[06:58] <dissected> BeWop, you probably dont want to delete it
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  vlc has dozens of settings and config files and 'advanced' controls.  I think vlc had some 'default audio track' perferance somewhere.  buit lately ive been using smplayer.  I rarely have to chang audio tracks any more. i watch a lot of anime that has jap+eng tracks. they are always defaulting to english forme now a days
[06:58] <mikubuntu> but when i insert in the tray and restart it tries to boot from the cd, and then the monitor says 'no signal'
[06:58] <abhi_nav> jaldhar, : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager0.7 see this documentations and last section
[06:58] <BeWop> dissected well, I can run everything without it, as in I just barely installed it and everything fell to hell
[06:58] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  so can i have a different desktop in my ubuntu 9.10
[06:58] <BeWop> dissected my driconf doesn't work, direct rendering doesn't work
[06:58] <default> m1kubuntu:  if you got more than one monitor plugged in...  unplug all but one
[06:58] <dissected> BeWop, is this a nvidia card?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  you can have several dozen different 'desktops/window managers'  on Linux
[06:58] <BeWop> dissected intel gma
[06:59] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis,  ok cool I will check out SMplayer. You recommend it over VLC?>
[06:59] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  on the same install ?
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  ive been using it more and vlc less this past month
[06:59] <mikubuntu> default, no i have only one monitor plugged in
[06:59] <jaldhar> abhi_nav: auto lo is all I have.  This was working perfectly until my battery ran out earlier today and I was forced to reboot.
[06:59] <BeWop> dissected, it's apparently like libgl-mesa-snx.11 or something
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  main feature.. it remberw where i 'left off' on my movies.. so i can watch for 10 min.. close the player.. and come back to the same spot
[06:59] <BeWop> dissected, in ubuntu
[06:59] <abhi_nav> jaldhar, read that documentation
[06:59] <dissected> BeWop, I'd say try re-installing your video card driver ... but the intel is probably natively supported if that makes sense
[06:59] <daniel__> Dr_Willis:  can i have different ones on the same install ?
[07:00] <BeWop> dissected, it is, but now it's not working
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  err... of course..   I sort of said youc an have a dozen+
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  the desktop/window manager is just another program
[07:00] <dissected> BeWop, have you tried uninstalling the game in question?
[07:00] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: Linux will blow your mind.
[07:00] <daniel__> Dr_Willis:  remember i am very new to this
[07:00] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis,  nice. How is it with subtitles? You know the biggest (only) problem I have with VLC is it sucks ass with Subtitles.
[07:00] <bkadoctaj> It blows mine daily.
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  'sudo apt-get install icewm'  then log out and select ICEWM at teh gdm login screen menus.. theres one :)
[07:00] <BeWop> it's my gui too
[07:00] <BeWop> dissected, it's everything, including my gui
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  ive never had issues with vlc and subtitles.
[07:01]  * Cpt_Zyph is no longer away : Gone for 3 hours 16 minutes 22 seconds
[07:01] <Ek|mu5> hello all
[07:01] <Cpt_Zyph> sry
[07:01] <Cpt_Zyph> didn't know away did that
[07:01] <daniel__> Dr_Willis:  is that a part of gnome
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  Huh?
[07:01] <dissected> BeWop, you mean your system is bricked?
[07:01] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: no.  Gnome is separate from IceWM.
[07:01] <daniel__> Dr_Willis: gdh
[07:01] <jaldhar> abhi_nav: no that's not it.  Network manager isn't failing to manage wlan0 because of /etc/network/interfaces
[07:01] <dissected> BeWop, X that is
[07:01] <BeWop> dissected yeah
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  GDM IS the login screen you have been using if you are using ubuntu
[07:01] <abhi_nav> jaldhar, hmmm ok then? what exactly?
[07:02] <dissected> BeWop, you'll need to go in and take a look at the X server logs
[07:02] <mikubuntu> i am having strange behaviors on this computer trying to install ubuntu ... i burned the disk using imgburn, i used the top left write to disc option .. when i put this disc in with windows running it gives me the little window to install ubuntu by inserting in tray and restarting, or install within windows
[07:02] <xorwhy> I need an application or web application that will notify me of contents changes on a web page
[07:02] <dissected> BeWop, see what it says when it's crashing
[07:02] <BeWop> dissected how?
[07:02] <mikubuntu> but when i insert in the tray and restart it tries to boot from the cd, and then the monitor says 'no signal'
[07:02] <daniel__> Dr_Willis:  when i was using 10.04 i had a screen like you say but in this 9.10 i dont think i do
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> xorwhy:  ive seen various 'web site scrapers' that can do that.. but never used any.
[07:02] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: how do you log in?
[07:02] <dissected> BeWop, log in to a non graphical terminal
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  ubuntu uses gdm..its default for gnome.
[07:02] <daniel__> Dr_Willis:  automatically
[07:02] <abhi_nav> !details | jaldhar
[07:03] <dissected> BeWop, when you start up and X crashes or whatever, try hitting CTRL+ALT+F1  or F2, etc and you should get a text based login
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  bottom of the GDM login screen is some menu items you can use after you type/select your users login name
[07:03] <bob_> how do I install 7-zip? I downloaded it with the software center, but now I can't find it.
[07:03] <dissected> BeWop, but you're going to need to be familiar /w shell commands for this
[07:03] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: You need to burn the image to a disc, restart your computer, then boot from the CD. Wait some time for the disc to boot up; it can take up to 3 minutes.
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> bob_:  its a command line tool. installing it lets ark and other archive guis use 7zip archives now.
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> bob_:  it does not have its own gui like the windows version
[07:04] <bob_> ok, thanks
[07:04] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: What are the specifications of your system? Your processor, RAM, and graphics card would be great info to have to help you out here.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> One area taht blows windo2ws away :) heh
[07:04] <daniel__> Dr_Willis:  i turn the computer on it loads up and the desktop is on thats it no logging in
[07:04] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: I did.  but when i restart with the disk, the monitor says its getting no signal
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  disable auto login, or log out to get to GDM..
[07:04] <BeWop> dissected alright, so just give me the steps
[07:04] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: 3 times i tried
[07:04] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: go to System > Administration > Login Screen
[07:04] <wildbat> question~ can anyone know how to fix the lid button? it is not working correctly, when pressed the screen off for 0.5sec and back on, as well as when released. any clue?
[07:04] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  ta
[07:05] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: What system are you running? What processor do you have, RAM, graphics card? I need more info to help.
[07:05] <Cpt_Zyph> well i'm out of ideas on how to fix my video issues..
[07:05] <dissected> BeWop, eh it's hard without seeing exactly what is going on
[07:05] <jaldhar> ok.  kubuntu lucid + latest updates. kernel 2.6.32-23.  The knetworkmanager icon is disabled and if you click on it it says "Network management disabled."
[07:05] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: but when i restarted back into windows, it boots right up
[07:05] <oddtod> hey guys I am having an issue with ubuntu 10.4 connecting to a windows share. I have the share setup correctly and can access from other windows boxes but cannot connect from Ubuntu 64 bit OS. It asks like i am putting in the incorrect password when i try to access the machine
[07:05] <Cpt_Zyph> even when i hold shift i can see it try'n to load into a safe mode of sorts.. but i can only see a tiny corner of a prompt window
[07:05] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: then click "Show the screen for choosing who will log in".
[07:05] <BeWop> dissected well, is there anyway to just revert my system to a day ago?
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> oddtod:  some times i have to enter the proper path to the share competely the first time and enter the password..  could also be your workgroup setting.
[07:05] <dissected> BeWop, you would just need to uninstall the packages that caused the problem
[07:06] <jaldhar> With a wired connection, a manual invocation of dhclient is needed to get an ip which previously happened automatically when the cable was inserted
[07:06] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: i don't know how to open a terminal in xp
[07:06] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  done so now i can download different desktops ? and select them ?
[07:06] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: I just need to know how much RAM you have, and what processor you have, and if you have a graphics card.
[07:06] <BeWop> dissected I know, but when I go to do that, it says it will also uninstall xserver, all my games, fspot, and basically anything to do with the video
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  install icewm package. log out.. select icewm at teh gdm screen...
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> its not rocket surgery :)
[07:06] <bob_> are there any unrar programs that will let me unrar something from the right click menu?
[07:06] <bkadoctaj> heh
[07:06] <Cpt_Zyph> mikubuntu wrong channel go to run bar type cmd
[07:06] <dissected> BeWop, these can be re-installed right?
[07:07] <oddtod> Dr_Willis the workgroups are the same and i added wins and that actually allowed me to see the windows names. What do you mean the full path the share is names shares so //TOMCAT/SHARES?
[07:07] <celeritas> hehe rocket surgery.
[07:07] <BeWop> It'd be easier to just reinstall the os
[07:07] <dissected> BeWop, that's a fair point
[07:07] <BeWop> dissected can't I just uninstall the packet itself?
[07:07] <greezmunkey> ubuntu surgery
[07:07] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  will this change all my menus and stuff
[07:07] <dissected> BeWop, if you have a fairly vanilla install you might as well just do that
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> oddtod:  ive had issues befor with wins,  i normally have to enter in nauitlus the full path like   smb://server/sharename/    and it then prompts for the pass/user  and i tell it to rember. (i normally bookmark it also)
[07:07] <celeritas> bob_, all you have to add is a right click service under gnome for the file type
[07:08] <dissected> BeWop, you can try forcing it
[07:08] <oddtod> bob: if you install unrar "sudo apt-get install unrar" you should be able to right click and tell it to "extract here"
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> daniel__:  running a different desktop runs a different desktop... :)
[07:08] <BeWop> how/
[07:08] <Cpt_Zyph> well i have been reading as much as i can come across with nvidia card problems etc. etc.. and i have a fresh install on this laptop but can't figure out how to change run lvls to a none gui one.. or to edit the config file in recovery mode booted from install disk.. i dont knw what to do
[07:08] <dissected> BeWop, but you're going to create dependency issues
[07:08] <BeWop> dissected What kind of issues?
[07:08] <dissected> BeWop, other stuff might depends on that mesa library
[07:08] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: I have a windows terminal open, how do i query for the info you want
[07:08] <daniel__> Dr_Willis:  but will items i have installed still be there
[07:08] <Cpt_Zyph> why are you talk'n about windows atm?
[07:09] <oddtod> Dr_Willis; thanks i'll have to play try that not. Thanks for your help if this works right now i'll come back on and tell you. Thanks again
[07:09] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: try it and see.
[07:09] <BeWop> dissected I wasn't using that mesa before, I probably won't use it now
[07:09] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: You don't need the terminal. All you need is to know your system information. If you don't know how much RAM you have or what processor you have, I can't help you.. You can check these things in Windows XP by opening your start menu, right clicking 'Computer', and selecting 'Properties'.
[07:09] <gixgix> can i set up some way to double-click a ruby file to execute it?
[07:09] <dissected> BeWop, you can try renaming it
[07:09] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: worst thing that will happen is you log out and choose Gnome for your next login session.
[07:09] <dissected> BeWop, then see if X boots up
[07:09] <ilumi> Cpt_Zyph, why you want to change run levels
[07:09] <mikubuntu> Cpt_Zyph: because i thought i could find my system info with terminal
[07:09] <daniel__> would like to know answers from people that are telling me to do things first before i try
[07:09] <BeWop> dissected I'd rather force remove it =P
[07:09] <celeritas> mikubuntu, WindowsKey+Pause(Break) key
[07:09] <abuayyoub> Anyone have any suggestions for learning CLI? I use it more than average but I have been wanting to learn it better. GDM spoils me tho because it's so friggin awesome.
[07:09] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: Yes, but in Linux we have to try some stuff on our own.
[07:10] <BeWop> x isn't dependant on this, or x wouldn't have ran in the first place
[07:10] <Cpt_Zyph> the system info in linux is far better then with windows
[07:10] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  yes when you have a certain amount of knowledge
[07:10] <karma_police> i have a problem. i have 10.04 and nvidia with restricted drivers.. i had to edit my xorg file to set resolution. i rebooted and have no panels... had to alt+f2 to open firefox.. i'm a noob is there a command to get the nvidia or resolution settings window up to change resolution where i can see my panels?
[07:10] <daniel__> its ok
[07:10] <abuayyoub> Cpt_Zyph, Everything in Linux is better than windows... except mayb gaming lol
[07:10] <dissected> BeWop, try something like "mv libgl.so.1 libgl.so.1.back"
[07:10] <Cpt_Zyph> if you need your hardware profile just right click my computer and check your device manager but chances are better (i dont knw the command but was walked through it before ) u can get a txt file that lists more then any windows system info would
[07:10] <dissected> and see if X starts up again
[07:10] <rod1> hmm my sound was not auto-detected , whats an easy way to check if ubuntu supports what I have?
[07:10] <BeWop> dissected k
[07:10] <Sc00t3r> BeWop: It's easier for just one person to help him. He's trying to install linux- meaning he doesn't have terminal.
[07:11] <ilumi> except there is better software for wondows
[07:11] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: It's like what my dad used to say, if you walked into an old casino and didn't know how to deal right, they'd shoot you.  Practice at home first.  ;)
[07:11] <phlak_user> abuayyoub: you could pick up this book --> http://www.bash2zsh.com/
[07:11] <mikubuntu> celeritas: i know the windows key, whats the break key?
[07:12] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: You can just open your start menu, right click "Computer", and select 'properties'. You are making this much more difficult than it is!
[07:12] <celeritas> mikubuntu, PauseBreak key
[07:12] <phlak_user> mikubuntu: the key with Pause and Break written on it; typically next to the Prt Sc
[07:12] <karma_police> i have a problem. i have 10.04 and nvidia with restricted drivers.. i had to edit my xorg file to set resolution. i rebooted and have no panels... had to alt+f2 to open firefox.. i'm a noob. is there a command to get the nvidia or resolution settings window up to change resolution where i can see my panels?
[07:12] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  makes no sense to have begginer rooms if you expect people to practice at home and no what they are doing before they come in
[07:12] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: what you're attempting to try isn't "beginner" stuff.
[07:12] <daniel__> bkadoctaj: you have to realise that i am still very very new to linux
[07:12] <BeWop> dissected it gives me a >
[07:13] <ilumi> karma_police, check if the refresh rates are ok for your monitor in the config file
[07:13] <bkadoctaj> daniel__: well, we try not to suggest things which we worry will break your system without giving you warning first.
[07:13] <daniel__> bkadoctaj:  i see it as beginner stuff because ive never touched linux only windows
[07:13] <Sc00t3r> karma_police: You shouldn't have had to set your monitor's resolution manually in the first place. The reason you can't see everything is because the resolution is bigger than your monitor can handle; thus, the monitor is only showing a portion of it.
[07:13] <celeritas> karma_police, try nvidia-settings in terminal
[07:14] <godbody> How do I recover my files when I updated anyone
[07:14] <karma_police> how do i open if? i have a blank screen.. i can access alt f2 menu.. what command will open either the nvidia settings manager or the default ubuntu monitor menu?
[07:14] <godbody> it erased my partition
[07:14] <tazz> i am using thinkpad x201, i am on kubuntu 10.04 not able to control the brightness with the Fn+Brightness button.
[07:14] <celeritas> karma_police, try nvidia-config to redo your xorg
[07:14] <quietone> alsamixer no longer shows the hdmi (iec....)  how do i get it back?
[07:15] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: i opened the 'computer' what do you want to know again?
[07:15] <karma_police> ok.. i changed resolution.. i have no top or bottom panels
[07:15] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: Your processor, and your RAM. Are you reading everything? I said to right click 'Computer', and select 'Properties'. Not just 'Computer'.
[07:15] <maco> daniel__: if you want to try out the applications that go with other environments, you can simply install them using applications -> software center (erm i hope thats how its found) and then run them inside gnome
[07:15] <maco> daniel__: thats the easiest way. they'll all run within it just fine
[07:16] <Sc00t3r> karma_police: That means your resolution is still too large. Are you using a widescreen, or a 4:3?
[07:16] <karma_police> 4:3 1024x768. i wouldn't think that is too extreme
[07:16] <Sc00t3r> karma_police: Set your resolution to 1280x720 for widescreen, or 1024x768 for 4:3.
[07:16] <dissected> BeWop, what does
[07:16] <celeritas> karma_police, have you checked your monitor settings? are you using a crt or an lcd?
[07:16] <Sc00t3r> karma_police: That's odd..
[07:17] <BeWop> dissected terminal
[07:17] <karma_police> crt
[07:17] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: amd athlon 64, but i burned the 32 bit
[07:17] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: Alright, that's not bad. Did you just copy the files over, or burned the .iso?
[07:17] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: 960 mb ram
[07:17] <phlak_user> godbody: from your backup disk?
[07:17] <celeritas> karma_police, the scan area of your crt may be too small. try changing the settings on your monitor. some monitors also have auto-configuration
[07:18] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: i burned the 32 bit, and i used imgburn
[07:19] <bullgard4> Der Prozess #4571 'java' frißt 92%  meiner CPU-Zeit. Wie bekomme ich heraus, welches Anwendungsprogrmm ihn erzeugt hat?
[07:19] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: Alright. So when you boot the CD, you get no signal at all from the monitor. Can you hear the disk spinning?
[07:19] <karma_police> i was using this site to configure my resolution.. when i installed ubuntu and installed the recommended nvidia driver i only had 480x240 or something like that http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/video-resolution-issue-for-ubuntu-10-04-a-809681/
[07:19] <dissected> BeWop, when you try to start X?
[07:19] <mikubuntu> it din't have an option to specifically burn .iso image that i could see, so in imgburn i used the top left write option, i don't know if you're familiar with imgburn
[07:19] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: How long do you wait for the CD to boot?
[07:19] <celeritas> karma_police, did you check the settings on your monitor?
[07:20] <BeWop> dissected no, just when I put in the command you gave me
[07:20] <karma_police> yes.. it is fine
[07:20] <Cpt_Zyph> how do i add single command to the new grub2 loader?
[07:20] <Sc00t3r> Cpt_Zyph: What do you mean by single command?
[07:20] <Cpt_Zyph> i can't seem to do it like the old one.. tried ctrl x .. tried the esc key
[07:20] <Cpt_Zyph> i can
[07:20] <karma_police> everything looks good on screen.. i just have no top or bottom panels.
[07:20] <Cpt_Zyph> i can't get the video working on my laptop after fresh install
[07:21] <Sc00t3r> Cpt_Zyph: What do you mean by single command, man?
[07:21] <Cpt_Zyph> had same problem with fedora but needless to say my fedora fix does not apply here.. so i was trying to get into single user mode so i can change xsession
[07:21] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: i got a purple screen, with just one image bottom center, not the typical 'try buntu' 'install buntu' etc ,, and then the monitor goes black and says 'no signal'
[07:21] <Cpt_Zyph> i was told to add the single command to grub to change my run levels
[07:21] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, you shouldn't have to change the grub menu. all you have to do is add the single to the kernel at boot time
[07:21] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: Give it time to boot up. How long did you wait?
[07:21] <Sc00t3r> Cpt_Zyph: You should be able to do that be pressing 'e' while you are highlighting the boot option.
[07:22] <dissected> BeWop, you need to find the actual path of the file you mentioned, also are you sure that particular file is the culprit?
[07:22] <Cpt_Zyph> hummm its just flickers after ram count then ubuntu is already loading.. i'll try the e key now
[07:22] <BeWop> dissected I know the repo I installed is the culpiit
[07:22] <BeWop> dissected but I can't uninstall it without tearing up my computer
[07:22] <karma_police> no matter what resolution i set it to i have no panel... is there an alt f2 command to open a panel and add to startup applications?
[07:22] <phlak_user> Cpt_Zyph: keep the shift key pressed; this will bring up the grub menu
[07:22] <mikubuntu> Sc00t3r: ill try again and give it 5 mins to be sure, then i'll be back
[07:23] <karma_police> wait my bottom panel just magically appeared
[07:23] <BeWop> dissected  I just need to get it out, clean and whatever. Force is fine
[07:23] <Cpt_Zyph> i can't do it via shift
[07:23] <rohitnikocool> i am new to ubuntu .Should i use a antivirus?
[07:23] <abhi_nav> Cpt_Zyph, esc?
[07:23] <Cpt_Zyph> the problem is my video not working when i hold shift i only see a tiny corner of the window
[07:23] <Sc00t3r> mikubuntu: Okay.
[07:23] <bkadoctaj> rohitnikocool: if you want.
[07:23] <karma_police> its like my upper panel is invisible
[07:23] <bkadoctaj> rohitnikocool: Pretty useless though imo.
[07:23] <Cpt_Zyph> treid esc  / e / ctrl x .. i'm not that much of a noobie i must be doing something wrong
[07:23] <Sc00t3r> rohitnikocool: You really don't need one.
[07:23] <dissected> BeWop, where did you get the filename for that library libgl?
[07:23] <drizzt_> rohitnikocool, antiviruses are useless on any platform
[07:24] <Cpt_Zyph> there is no txt after ram count it just instantly starts loading ubuntu
[07:24] <abhi_nav> rohitnikocool, absolutely not
[07:24] <BeWop> I searched libgl.so.1
[07:24] <bullgard4> The process #4571 'java' eats up 92%  of my CPU's time. How can I determine what application program did create it?
[07:24] <waldy> The gnome panel = unstable - I switched to KDE and problem gone :)
[07:24] <BeWop> dissected I searched libgl.so.1 and it spit out a mesa thing that said it was aka that
[07:24] <rohitnikocool> ya it may seem to you but my ubuntu crashed 3 to 4 times and i dont no why
[07:24] <Cpt_Zyph> dont get me wrong if i hold shift i see it try to go to recovery mode but i can't see the options or anything  just major flicker.. 5x copies of the screen and a tiny corner of a window
[07:24] <drizzt_> rohitnikocool, it's normal
[07:24] <abhi_nav> rohitnikocool, it is nothing to to with 'VIRUS'
[07:25] <drizzt_> rohitnikocool, try 8.04, it's more stable
[07:25] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, at boot time, when you hold shift, you don't see the grub menu?
[07:25] <dissected> BeWop, did you get the info from an error message or something?
[07:25] <Cpt_Zyph> i think i got it
[07:25] <Cpt_Zyph> hold shift then hit e to edit
[07:25] <Cpt_Zyph> i'm a dope
[07:25] <rohitnikocool> ok! what about firewall.
[07:25] <celeritas> right
[07:25] <bullgard4> waldy: "The gnome panel = unstable " <- A rubbish general statement.
[07:25] <BeWop> dissected there is no error message, my box/graphics are just really slow
[07:25] <abhi_nav> rohitnikocool, firewall is more about intrusion than virus
[07:25] <dissected> BeWop, we need to figure out exactly what is going on here before we accidentally toast your system
[07:25] <tripelb> Hi all...  I dont see anyone active I know. maybe drizzt_ ?I have ubuntu 9.10 and I want to turn my print image to landscape. The place to do that is Greyed Out. Please advise!!
[07:26] <waldy> bullgard4 - Thanks, nice to be appreciated ;-)
[07:26] <flip_> can some one help me with [   16.585851] RIPTIDE 0000:01:0a.0: firmware: requesting riptide.hex  [   16.924577] ALSA riptide.c:1249: Riptide: Firmware not available -2
[07:26] <drizzt_> tripelb, sorry, I was never get working printing in ubuntu at all
[07:26] <BeWop> dissected Well,  I think it was running off a different driver than mesa, and now that it is running of of mesa, my card doesn't support it too well.
[07:26] <karma_police> ok i think it fixed itself.. gonna reboot and see if it stays
[07:26] <dissected> BeWop, so you go to uninstall this stuff that apparently made your system slow, and because of that one file you tracked down that other stuff depends on, it wanted to uninstall a myriad of other things as well?
[07:27] <jpohl> how do i make grub2 default to a different OS?
[07:27] <BeWop> dissected yeah, except it doesn't really depend on it, because I used them all before just fine, and now they hardly run
[07:27] <tripelb> drizzt_, wow, I found it magically worked with no HP download needed. Take note of that brand then.
[07:27] <dissected> BeWop, well the point is, it *thinks* they all depend on it
[07:27] <celeritas> !details | jpohl
[07:27] <abhi_nav> jpds, set that os number to '0' in grub config file
[07:27] <abhi_nav> ohh sorry
[07:27] <BeWop> dissected I know. and I don't know how to fix it
[07:27] <abhi_nav> jpohl, , set that os number to '0' in grub config file
[07:27] <Sc00t3r> Cpt_Zyph: You should be able to bring up the GRUB2 menu by holding down SHIFT during boot.
[07:28] <tripelb> dissected, I would think he just has to Not Run the programs and doesnt need actually to uninstall them.
[07:28] <rohitnikocool> how is ubuntu 10.10 alpha first guys,does anybody review it .
[07:28] <jpohl> abhi_nav: the grub file says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE"
[07:29] <Sc00t3r> rohitnikocool: Probably no better than 10.04 until about a week after its final release.
[07:29] <Cpt_Zyph> Sc00t3r rgr that i'm at the menu now.. so were do i add / how do i add the single command to change the boot / run lvl so it dosn't load any gui things
[07:29] <dissected> tripelb, he said everything is messed up now though
[07:29] <quietone> if I boot to KDE i can adjust the iec9?? HDMI output. But in ubuntu it doesn't show up in alsamixer. What do I need to do to see the HDMI in ubuntu?
[07:29] <bkadoctaj> Sc00t3r: I agree... Lucid beta was nothing compared with final release.
[07:29] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, on the kernel line, at the end, add single
[07:30] <Guest79802> Hi I have a 360 litre cold water tanks tank I want to replace 1/3 of the water.
[07:30] <rohitnikocool> i have sticked to 9.10 after having some bugs in 10.04,hope 10.10 comes well.
[07:30] <Guest79802> I have siphoned ~100 litres out with the garden hose and now need to add 100l litres The tank contains 4 small goldfish ~ 7 cm long
[07:30] <Guest79802> Im in Geelong can I use straight tap water into the tank then add water ager,or must I mix 10 buckets of water with ager then add?
[07:30] <Guest79802> cheers rileyp
[07:30] <Guest79802> edit In the future we wish to upgrade to tropical fish (guppies probably as we are just starting out). Will the same rules apply?
[07:30] <FloodBot3> Guest79802: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:30] <Sc00t3r> Cpt_Zyph: You know, I'm not completely sure. I assume you're trying to run it just by command line.. But why do you want to do that?
[07:30] <vishu> hi  guys
[07:30] <Cpt_Zyph> well from grub menu if i hit c to command line its the grub command line and thats not working so i hit e to edit th ecommands
[07:31] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, did you find the kernel line?
[07:31] <lint_> hey guys, i want to install an ssh server, which is a good one?
[07:31] <abhi_nav> jpohl, edit /etc/default/grub
[07:31] <Cpt_Zyph> i assume so
[07:31] <celeritas> lint openssh
[07:31] <rod1> dang an hour getting sound to work on ubuntu and I find out my computers speakers were on mute
[07:31] <oddalot> lol pwnt
[07:31] <celeritas> and did you add single to end of the line?
[07:31] <Cpt_Zyph> i hit E and i see some boot txt .. i'm guess'n i add a line at th bottom and i add the word single
[07:31] <rod1> oddalot: yep
[07:31] <abhi_nav> jpohl, see this doc https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[07:32] <celeritas> no, at the end of the kernel line, you add single as a parameter
[07:32] <Sc00t3r> I'll be back in a bit. Going to do some editing to GRUB2 via its loader, and some other stuff with GParted...
[07:32] <jpohl> abhi_nav: thanks
[07:32] <loopidity> i booted ubuntu with the earphones plugged in,now that I remove them, I still cant get the sound through the speaker
[07:32] <vishu> i have all the gstreamer plugins installe din my system i want to install them in another system  is there a way to transfer the plugins to anoher system without downloading them again?
[07:32] <abhi_nav> jpohl, hmm
[07:32] <loopidity> sbin/alsa reload doesnt help
[07:32] <Sc00t3r> loopidity: Choose the default output device in the sound preferences.
[07:32] <phlak_user> !ssh | lint_
[07:32] <phlak_user> !sshd | lint_
[07:32] <flip_> Can some one help me with sound card issues i've tried running alsa update script etc i got driver modules it just wont load for some reason
[07:32] <rohitnikocool> Can anyone tell me the best way to take backup in ubuntu 9.10
[07:32] <Jordan_U> Cpt_Zyph: You can also just choose the "recovery mode" menu entry.
[07:32] <flip_> something about firmware being missing -2
[07:32] <MasterZuFu> hey everyone. i restarted my server and went to start apache and this is the error I got: "no listening sockets available, shutting down
[07:32] <MasterZuFu> Unable to open logs". Someone in #httpd told me to find out what ports and ip's are being used on the system, that there may be some kind of intereference. I don't know how to do that, can anyone help me?
[07:32] <tripelb> dissected, I went back and read the discussion, backwards lol, and Oh. I do not know enough to imagine "to uninstall my video card I would have to uninstall (almost?) all my programs" that makes no sense to me so I'll bow out.  -- I just want to print a map of Africa "landscape" instead of "portrait" on the paper and that control is "greyed out". That's my current problem.
[07:33] <Cpt_Zyph> Jordan_U how?
[07:33] <Cpt_Zyph> i see that option but
[07:33] <tripelb> Ubuntu 9.10 and I want to turn my print image to landscape. The place to do that is Greyed Out. Please advise!!
[07:33] <lakitu> how do i manually mount devices when installing grub from the live cd
[07:33] <lint_> !scp
[07:33] <Cpt_Zyph> it dosn't display or load
[07:33] <karma_police> thatnk for the help guys.. i think i am finally up and running.. after 3 days of fubar
[07:33] <phlak_user> MasterZuFu: netstat -nlt
[07:33] <Cpt_Zyph> just a blinking line
[07:34] <Cpt_Zyph> trying it now but all i see is a blink'n line in the bottom milddle of my screen
[07:34] <loopidity> Sc00t3r there is just one option (Dummy Stereo) and nothing else
[07:34] <jpohl> abhi_nav: something i'm still not sure about, e.g. if i set GRUB_DEFAULT=4 the next time i update the kernel, won't that throw the index off?
[07:34] <abhi_nav> jpohl, no
[07:34] <BeWop> dissected how do I force it out of there? I'll just take my chances
[07:34] <loopidity> and alsamixer doest work in commandline
[07:34] <jpohl> abhi_nav: ok
[07:34] <phlak_user> MasterZuFu: if you see anything with a local address :80 then your port 80 (that apache normally runs on) is taken
[07:34] <greezmunkey> tripelb: did you try from CUPS? localhost:631 ?
[07:34] <Cpt_Zyph> can i maybe edit xconfig file from the boot cd recovery mode.. cuz that gets to a command line via the install disk but ist pretty limited
[07:34] <abhi_nav> jpohl, hmm
[07:35] <Tac_Home> it looks like ubuntu defaults to having lighttpd running, how do I flip that back to apache?
[07:35] <dissected> BeWop, check them an page for dpkg
[07:35] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, yes
[07:35] <MasterZuFu> phlak_user, this is what i got: http://pastebin.com/kNeK4u53. I don't see port 80
[07:35] <dissected> BeWop, type "man dpkg" in a terminal
[07:35] <phlak_user> MasterZuFu: i do see a 443; do you have https running?
[07:35] <BeWop> dissected kay... now what?
[07:36] <MasterZuFu> phlak_user, I'm not entirely sure. how do i find out?
[07:36] <phlak_user> Tac_Home: install apache
[07:36] <dissected> BeWop, find an option that will turn off dependency checking ... and then you can erase the offending packages without it wanted to uninstall everything else
[07:36] <larrylamsy> hi, please help. I have upgrade my Ubuntu from 9.10 to now 10.04. I could not find the Palm Syn software.
[07:36] <Tac_Home> phlak_user, installed, and running
[07:36] <phlak_user> Tac_Home: what makes you think lighttpd is running instead of apache?
[07:36] <BeWop> dissected Mmk
[07:37] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas well i'm sry i'm still pretty new at this i'll boot to the install disk and enter the command line option .. but i can't seem to figure out what to do from there
[07:37] <phlak_user> MasterZuFu: try connecting to https://localhost/
[07:37] <Jordan_U> Cpt_Zyph: Do you have a LiveCD?
[07:37] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas i was think'n i could even just change run lvl
[07:37] <Tac_Home> phlak_user, good question..... well I guess my issue is.. I went to go modify the httpd.conf for apache, and it's empty
[07:37] <Cpt_Zyph> no i have the install cd
[07:37] <Cpt_Zyph> i'm told its all one but i dont think so beacuse
[07:37] <blekos> hello how can I check i have install 64bit version?
[07:38] <[jmad980]> uname
[07:38] <maco> blekos: uname -m
[07:38] <MasterZuFu> phlak_user, looks like that's ebox.
[07:38] <rww> blekos: type "uname -a" in a terminal, look for "x86_64" near the end.
[07:38] <Cpt_Zyph> i'm at the boot menu and after selecting english .. the only options are "install ubuntu' check disk for defects / test mem/ boot frm first HD and rescure a broken system
[07:38] <MasterZuFu> phlak_user, hang on, my sys admin just came online, i'll get him to take a look at it.
[07:38] <Jordan_U> jpohl: abhi_nav: With grub2 you can use full menu entry titles for the value of GRUB_DEFUALT, that way it doesn't depend on numbering.
[07:38] <phlak_user> MasterZuFu: ok
[07:38] <blekos> i c
[07:38] <jpohl> Jordan_U: cool
[07:39] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph can you clarify your problem
[07:39] <blekos> and why the build is named AMD64?
[07:39] <maco> blekos: because thats the actual architecture
[07:39] <blekos> I am confused, i want to download virtual box
[07:39] <abhi_nav> Jordan_U, you mean typing the text e.g. 'Ubuntu 10.04' etc like that?
[07:39] <blekos> and i see i386 and AMD64
[07:39] <koshari>  blekos amd first bought out 64 bit evtensions
[07:39] <maco> blekos: and if youre confused as an intel user... intel licenses the amd64 architecture from amd
[07:39] <maco> blekos: i386 is 32bit
[07:39] <blekos> aha
[07:39] <Jordan_U> abhi_nav: Yes
[07:39] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas i'm about to put a picture of it on pastebin or something.. i just installed on a dv series laptop
[07:39] <abhi_nav> blekos, AMD64 is 64bit ubuntu
[07:40] <blekos> thnx for clarifying
[07:40] <abhi_nav> Jordan_U, nice :)
[07:40] <Blue1> blekos: do a uname -a and paste results here
[07:40] <Cpt_Zyph> and it dosn't like my video driver / onboard card all i see is flicker'n screen and it apears to be like 5 copies of each screen its not ligned up at all
[07:40] <Tac_Home> phlak_user, thoughts?
[07:40] <erry> I have a little  problem when i click ctrl + alt + f1 to go to tty1 my screen goes black and it never turns on agayin unless i go back to x
[07:41] <blekos> Linux HAL 2.6.32-22-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 3 19:31:57 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:41] <Blue1> erry: click?
[07:41] <erry> Blue1, press*
[07:41] <Jordan_U> jpohl: Just make sure to quote the title if it contains spaces.
[07:41] <erry> Sorry :P
[07:41] <abhi_nav> Blue1, haa haa h :D
[07:41] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas i had this issue with fedora but i could set in fedora fresh install to boot command line only and then do some repo adds and updates and install the nvidia manualy to resolve that issue..
[07:41] <Blue1> blekos: you have a 64 bit archetecture and should use amd64
[07:41] <jpohl> Jordan_U: i was just about to ask that, thanks :-)
[07:41] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas but i dunno how to do that with ubuntu
[07:42] <erry> Blue1, so any ideas?
[07:42] <abhi_nav> Jordan_U, double quite? or single?
[07:42] <blekos> thnx
[07:42] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, you need to start ubuntu in recovery mode...did you try that?
[07:42] <Cpt_Zyph> it wont
[07:42] <Blue1> erry: you should get a black screen with a login prompt - to return back to x-windows -- use alt+f7 iirc
[07:42] <blekos> btw, do you know how i can change the dimensions of my touchpad?
[07:42] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas it never completes boot when i try that
[07:42] <erry> Blue1, I don't get anything in the screen. it turns off.
[07:42] <phlak_user> Tac_Home: it is normally found in /etc/httpd
[07:42] <abhi_nav> blekos, physical dimension?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> abhi_nav: Either (/etc/default/grub is interpreted by /bin/sh, so shell quoting rules apply)
[07:42] <blekos> i tried to find X11.conf but it is "empty"
[07:42] <phlak_user> Tac_Home: isnt that the case with you?
[07:42] <Cpt_Zyph> it just stays black screen with blick'n curser line on the middle bottom of my screen
[07:42] <blekos> nop
[07:43] <blekos> touching dimensions
[07:43] <Blue1> erry: dunno that's what I get here.  what kind of video card to you have?
[07:43] <Tac_Home> phlak_user, file is there, just empty
[07:43] <erry> Blue1, ati
[07:43] <abhi_nav> Jordan_U, ok . thanks
[07:43] <Blue1> erry: model number?
[07:43] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas in the rescue mode from install cd should i pick the sda1 or just do the do not use a root file system?
[07:43] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, try adding vga=ask to the kernel line at boot time
[07:43] <blekos> when I wan to press left/ right click I have to press the area near the end of touchpad
[07:43] <erry> Blue1, um... how do i check? I tend to forget :p
[07:43] <blekos> bottom end
[07:43] <Blue1> erry: lspci | grep VGA
[07:43] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, sda1
[07:44] <erry> Blue1, 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[07:44] <Blue1> erry: old card --
[07:44] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas ok execute a shell in dev sda1
[07:44] <erry> Blue1, iknow. It's a laptop. Not much i can do :p
[07:44] <Guest16672> can any one help me with telnet behind proxy server
[07:45] <Blue1> erry: unfortunately old ati cards (like the one I had on another machine) are in legacy mode.  which means ati NO longer maintains the drivers.
[07:45] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, try Xorg -configure
[07:45] <erry> Blue1, i know that as well :(
[07:45] <Blue1> erry hang on a sec
[07:45] <erry> ok
[07:45] <Jordan_U> abhi_nav: You're welcome.
[07:45] <erry> 1 sec passed!
[07:45] <erry> just kidding :p
[07:45] <jpohl> Jordan_U: abhi_nav: working fine now, thanks 2 both
[07:45] <abhi_nav> Jordan_U, :)
[07:45] <Jordan_U> jpohl: You're welcome.
[07:45] <abhi_nav> jpohl, :)
[07:46] <Blue1> erry: can you do the following and pastebin the results?  grep -i glx /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:46] <MeatCurtains> Does anyone know what firmware deals with melfas touch screen sensors?
[07:46] <Blue1> !pastebin | erry
[07:46] <abhi_nav> i am still hanging. 1 sec passed? ;)
[07:47] <erry> Blue1, i know i know :p
[07:47] <erry> Blue1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/452345/
[07:47] <Blue1> erry: thanks
[07:47] <erry> np
[07:48] <loopidity> how do I get my laptop speaker sound? only earphone works as I booted with them plugged in
[07:48] <Blue1> erry: this ain't good!  (EE) GLX error: Can not get required symbols.
[07:48] <erry> Blue1, i used to have a problem with this card. The screen would flicker. IT was resolved after running a command i was told in this channel i don't remember which
[07:48] <phlak_user> loopidity: run alsamixer and move all sliders to max
[07:48] <Sickler> why is "64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage"  <--- from ubuntu download page
[07:49] <loopidity> loopidity@~ >>>--->>> alsamixer
[07:49] <loopidity> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[07:49] <erry> But anyway from the first time i installed 10.04 i realised my card can't be very well supported :p
[07:49] <abhi_nav> SlidingHorn, 64 is recommended
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> Sickler:  they are being 'over cautious' and theres been bug reports filed to get that wordiong changed
[07:49] <loopidity> phlak_user cant open alsamixer
[07:49] <Blue1> erry: don't know.  I wasn't here
[07:49] <phlak_user> loopidity: why?
[07:49] <SlidingHorn> abhi_nav, huh?  i haven't said anything since I entered.....
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> Sickler:  if you can use 64 - you may as well use 64bit
[07:49] <erry> Blue1, im just mentioning
[07:49] <abhi_nav> SlidingHorn, ohh sorry ;)
[07:49] <erry> Blue1, it doesnt do that anymore but now it wont go to tty
[07:49] <Blue1> Sickler: I use 64 bit for desktop works well
[07:50] <Wall_is> hey.
[07:50] <abhi_nav> SlidingHorn, it was for Sickler
[07:50] <loopidity> phlak_user loopidity@~ >>>--->>> alsamixer -->cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[07:50] <abhi_nav> Sickler, i use 64 too
[07:50] <phlak_user> loopidity: what laptop are you on?
[07:50] <loopidity> acer
[07:50] <loopidity> 64bit
[07:50] <loopidity> ubuntu 10.04
[07:51] <erry> Blue1, so, what now?
[07:51] <Blue1> erry: what driver do you have enabled?  iow if you go to System/Administration/Hardware Drivers what do you see?
[07:51] <phlak_user> loopidity: can you pastebin your lspci?
[07:51] <erry> Blue1, 1 sec
[07:51] <loopidity> alsamixer used to work, if I hadnt plugged in the earphone
[07:51] <erry> Blue1, altho im sure there's nothing there but let me verify it
[07:51] <phlak_user> loopidity: try alsamixer -c0
[07:51] <Wall_is> normally on Ubuntu all should be detected.
[07:51] <Blue1> erry: i'd be surprised if there was, but let's do a reality check
[07:51] <erry> Blue1, no propriety drivers
[07:52] <Wall_is> you could try with a simple : sudo alsa-utils restart
[07:52] <erry> Blue1, idk why but i actually have ati's control panel [ofc it wont start because i dont have the driver]
[07:52] <Cpt_Zyph> sry i didn't notice i clicked into the wrong channel
[07:52] <Blue1> erry: yeah you are prolly using the default ati driver. let me see what's on the ati site hang a moment
[07:52] <loopidity> invalid card index
[07:52] <loopidity> alsautils restart doesnt help either
[07:52] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas i'm at the terminal prompt now
[07:53] <phlak_user> loopidity: lets take a look at that lspci
[07:53] <bricky> hey is there a better way to cache tumbnails in linux?
[07:53] <loopidity> http://pastebin.com/9cH8fHn4 phlak_user
[07:53] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas hwo do i do that from the command prompt?
[07:53] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, well start by reconfiguring your xorg.conf
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  clarify what you mean.
[07:53] <celeritas> Xorg -configure
[07:53] <celeritas> !details
[07:53] <Cpt_Zyph> configureation failed
[07:54] <Wall_is> quitte
[07:54] <Cpt_Zyph> "number of created screens does not match number of detected devices configureation failed
[07:54] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, any errors in specific?
[07:54] <Guest16672> anybody please help me with telnet
[07:54] <Blue1> erry: there is a driver here:  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.12&lang=English  but I doubt if that's any better then what you have.
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> Guest16672:  give more detaiils.
[07:54] <Cpt_Zyph> ddxsiggiveup: closing log
[07:54] <bricky> Dr_Willis: noticed that my videoss and photos keep reloading even after just seeing them
[07:54] <erry> Blue1, ok let me try to install it.. If you see any smoke it's my laptop :p
[07:54] <Blue1> Guest16672: what help do you need?
[07:55] <bricky> Dr_Willis: after I browse out of that dir
[07:55] <Guest16672> i want telnet behind proxy server,how to do that
[07:55] <Blue1> erry: just make sure you know how to undo this if it doesn't work! --
[07:55] <erry> Blue1, um i dont
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  if you mean in the Gnome file manager. thers some settings for the cache sizes. but i normally disable all the thumbnails. so i dont recall where the setting is at.
[07:55] <erry> Blue1, do i just uninstall the package?>
[07:55] <Blue1> erry: that I am not sure on....
[07:55] <bricky> Dr_Willis: ahh is there any other 'file managers' available? i heard there was
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> Guest16672:  dont msg me.. ask questions in the channel.
[07:56] <erry> Blue1, well it;s ok i can connect to the laptop through ssh in case anything goes wrong. Unless it goes so wrong that it doesn't boot :p
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  theres dozens of file managers available.
[07:56] <Blue1> erry: its been quite awhile wince I fuxed with that, I think I had to re-install the old driver.
[07:56] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, where is your xorg.conf? look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:56] <Blue1> erry: I did that in my Suse days, not ubuntu
[07:57] <bricky> Dr_Willis :)
[07:57] <Cpt_Zyph> ok i used vi /var/log/Xorg.0.log looking through it now
[07:57] <bkadoctaj> Cpt_Zyph: you know vi?
[07:57] <erry> Blue1, Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[07:57] <Cpt_Zyph> normaly use vim in fedora but i know it well enough
[07:58] <Cpt_Zyph> to treat it like edit in windows or something not that complicated
[07:58] <vishu> is there  a package manager to construct packages that are already installed in the system?
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> default 'vim' in ubuntu is a vim-light - Yiou may want to install the full vim package if you do a lot of Vim-work
[07:58] <Cpt_Zyph> trying to find out in this log file were it says my config is located at
[07:58] <phlak_user> loopidity: does the sound still work in your headphones?
[07:58] <Cpt_Zyph> this is a default setup .. should all pretty much be the default locations
[07:58] <drizzt_> bricky, most file managers are much worse than nautilus
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> vishu:  construct? You mean generate a list>?
[07:58] <Blue1> erry: sorry....you need someone with more experience then I.
[07:58] <vishu> nope generate a deb back
[07:59] <erry> ok
[07:59] <bkadoctaj> drizzt_: in what sense?
[07:59] <Blue1> erry: :-(
 tripelb: did you try from CUPS? localhost:631 ?  -- I have no idea. I chose print in chrome.
[07:59] <loopidity> phlak_user no its not
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> vishu:  you mean yiu installed via a .deb  deleted the deb. and now you want the .deb back...
[07:59] <vishu> i want to install them on another system
[07:59] <erry> It's weird though, the card seems to work perfectly as long asi'm in a gui
[07:59] <Cpt_Zyph> "using configu directory: /usr/lib/x11/xorg.conf.d
[07:59] <drizzt_> bkadoctaj, they're too primitive to be useful
[07:59] <vishu> ya
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> vishu:  that would be a neat trick. not seen a way to do it
[08:00] <Cpt_Zyph> s it trying to load NOUVEAU driver..
[08:00] <bkadoctaj> drizzt_: lol, I think you're saying that GUI should be CLI.
[08:00] <vishu> i heard a package manager does that
[08:00] <phlak_user> loopidity: ah ok, i was thinking it works with headphones but not with lappy speakers :0
[08:00] <Blue1> wow it's midnight - -I turned into a pumpkin!
[08:00] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, try mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old followed by Xorg -configure
[08:00] <Cpt_Zyph> goes through a list of known nvida cards a then fallingn and probes voodo and old sis neomagic types then gives up after trigh .. vesa
[08:00] <erry> Blue1, maybe you can help with my sound problem!
[08:00] <loopidity> phlak_user this happens everytime i plug earphones initially
[08:00] <vishu> i have to install gstreamer stuff into my firends lapppy
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> vishu:  theres specific  scripts in the .deb' that get ran.. but they dont get saves/installed anywhere that i know of.. so that would be a neat trick
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> vishu:  check the /var/cache to see if the debs are still there?
[08:01] <bricky> drizzt_: probably , :)
[08:01] <Blue1> erry: all I know about sound cards is that turtle beach (cirrus logic) cards aren't well support be soundblaster is!
[08:01] <vishu> only some crap is there no useful stuff
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> bricky:  i perfer 'rox-filer' as my main file manager most of the time.
[08:01] <Cpt_Zyph> same error
[08:01] <bricky> ill look through my cache setts and let ya know how it works out
[08:01] <bricky> Dr_Willis: ahh kewl
[08:01] <vishu> i have read about a package manager that can do it with dependencies also included i forgot the name:(
[08:02] <loopidity> phlak_user so is the driver not loaded in mine?
[08:02] <erry> Blue1, well amarok often tells me the playback device "doesnt work"
[08:03] <erry> Blue1, esp if i was running something else that's supposed to play music before
[08:03] <Blue1> erry: ever used guayadeque?
[08:03] <erry> Blue1, what? :p
[08:03] <mfraz74> erry: I used to to get that all the time
[08:03] <Blue1> erry: http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=174
[08:03] <erry> mfraz74, how did you fix it?
[08:03] <Blue1> erry: it will come standard issue in ubuntu 10.10
[08:04] <phlak_user> loopidity: can you pastebin your lsmod
[08:04] <celeritas> Cpt_Zyph, Xorg.0.log should have more specific details about the nature of the error. also, since we have changed the xorg.conf, X should fail at boot time for your ubuntu, giving you a chance to try Xorg -configure from there
[08:04] <erry> ok
[08:04] <mfraz74> erry: Not sure if it was exactly the same problem as you, but sometimes when I turned the computer on I got told that no audio device was found and it was falling back to .
[08:04] <vishu> Dr_Willis, anyother way?
[08:04] <Cpt_Zyph> celeritas rgr that ill make sure its moved and backed up and try a reboot
[08:04] <mfraz74> erry: solved it by upgrading to 10.04
[08:04] <erry> mfraz74, that's what i'm using
[08:04] <erry> :p
[08:05] <erry> mfraz74, yeah that's my problem. Although it falls back to the recording device before it falls back to .
[08:05] <loopidity> phlak_user http://pastebin.com/nAA2YNx0
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> vishu:  no idea. I personally set up one machine on my lan as an apt-cache server it serves up and cachaes all the packages.
[08:06] <vishu> oo
[08:07] <mfraz74> erry: was getting rather annoying in the end as it happened more often with 9.10. doing a new install of 10.04 seems to have stopped it
[08:07] <erry> mfraz74, this was a clean install of 10.04 after my partition died
[08:07] <rohitnikocool> hi ubuntu
[08:07] <mfraz74> erry: oh
[08:07] <mfraz74> erry: is this with kubuntu or ubuntu?
[08:08] <erry> mfraz74, ubunt
[08:08] <erry> u
[08:08] <Blue1> erry: partitions don't die - they succomb to windows
[08:08] <mfraz74> erry: kubuntu, could it be something to do with pulseaudio?
[08:08] <erry> Blue1, my laptop overheated while resizing my old debian partition
[08:08] <phlak_user> loopidity: that looks fine; infact similar to mine :)
[08:09] <mfraz74> erry: I had noticed that it only happened with KDE apps, anything that wasn't KDE produced sound OK
[08:09] <rohitnikocool> any other player rather than rythmbox,recently i founded there are bugs in it.
[08:09] <erry> mfraz74, hm yah
[08:09] <erry> mfraz74, when i had debian and kde i didnt have a prob with amarok
[08:09] <celeritas> .
[08:09] <erry> so maybe it's something to do with gnome vs kde
[08:09] <phlak_user> loopidity: can you install pavucontrol
[08:09] <Blue1> erry: that's never good
[08:09] <antonella> does anybody know what command to link to a shortcut for to raise and lower system volume?
[08:10] <loopidity> phlak_user sure, what is it?
[08:10] <Blue1> erry: move to chicago in winder and re-try the install
[08:10] <erry> Blue1, lol
[08:10] <phlak_user> loopidity: this will help you have greater control over the pulseaudio system; you can select the input/output devices here
[08:10]  * celeritas Going for system halt NOW
[08:10] <abhi_nav> antonella, fn + '+' for up and fn + '-' for down
[08:10] <loopidity> ok, thanks :)
[08:10] <erry> Blue1, it's ok i used an airduster. You dontwant to know how much dust there was in there
[08:10] <erry> in the fan
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> antonella:  you could make a launcher that runs  one of the alsa control command line  commands..
[08:10] <rohitnikocool> suggest a music player rather than rythmbox.
[08:10] <Cpt_Zyph> well none of these things are working.. 8(
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> !xmms
[08:11] <Blue1> erry: my computers are just a few feet from the cat box - trust me I KNOW
[08:11] <MeatCurtains> Anyone have any clues as to what the firmware for melfas touch screen sensors may be?
[08:11] <Cpt_Zyph> i finaly got recovery menu to .. well kinda be legable but when i try to boot in failsafe graphics mode it says it can't detect the Hardware and i need ot set it up manualy
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> Blue1:  i have Pomerianians - wife pc was 1 Huge dust/fur ball on the inside.
[08:11]  * erry is playing with a hexbug
[08:11] <erry> keeps getting its feet caught on the mouse wire he
[08:11] <erry> heh*
[08:11] <Blue1> Dr_Willis: yeah but I also get hairball souffles on the side.
[08:12] <Cpt_Zyph> the i think it has a follow up screen that says what i would l.. like to do i'm guess'n
[08:12] <Devrethman> How do I add an sshfs filesystem to /etc/fstab?
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> They have this blueish 'air filter' material at stores you can get. easy to cut/wrap your pc/s openings - cuts down on dust Big time. :)
[08:12] <loopidity> phlak_user done, how to start it? pavucontrol start?
[08:12] <loopidity> phlak_user even this one says no cards available
[08:12] <Devrethman> It keeps complaining that it's an unknown filesystem, and I don't know what to use.
[08:12] <Cpt_Zyph> and says run ubuntu in low graphics.. reconfigure graf and exit to console login.. consol login will not show me anything after i type down pasat the screen
[08:12] <Blue1> Devrethman: yeah I've never heard of that either
[08:13] <loopidity> phlak_user configuration says no cards for configuration
[08:13] <Blue1> Devrethman: do you mean ntfs?
[08:13] <loopidity> phlak_user is it because the drivers arent loaded?
[08:13] <Devrethman> Blue1: No, I mean SSHFS, as in the fuse SFTP filesystem, but I figured it out, so nevermind.
[08:14] <Blue1> Devrethman: ahh okay -- I just set my sansa fuse to not use mtp and it works fine
[08:14] <Cpt_Zyph> maybe i'll just give up and reinstall fedora
[08:14] <Cpt_Zyph> 8( this is start'n to get too frustrating
[08:14] <Devrethman> Blue1: Oh, apparently there's just an odd syntax for using fuse filesystems in fstab
[08:15] <loopidity> phlak_user http://pastebin.com/kgqYxEng
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> Devrethman:  just a fast google finds --> sshfs#Benutzername@irgendEinRechner:/pfad_auf_dem_server/ ~/fusessh fuse uid=1003,gid=100,umask=0,allow_other,_netdev 0 0
[08:15] <Blue1> Devrethman: mine automounts
[08:15] <phlak_user> loopidity: you seem to be using oss instead of alsa which is ok
[08:16] <Devrethman> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I got it.
[08:16] <_jaldhar> For future reference Lightning on #kubuntu fixed my problem with the disabled knetworkmanager.  rm /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state and then restart NetworkManager
[08:16] <Cpt_Zyph> befor ei give up can anyone tell me how in the recovering console command line i can edit run lvls?
[08:16] <WhiteFlower> Hi, Guys
[08:16] <loopidity> ok
[08:16] <Blue1> Devrethman: do you have a sansa fuse mp3 player?
[08:16] <WhiteFlower> Anyone Around?
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  what are youy trying to do with runlevels? ubuntu dosent really use them the way other disrtos do.
[08:16] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: no
[08:17] <Devrethman> Blue1: no... fuse=Filesystem in USErspace. I'm using it to mount remote servers into my filesystem
[08:17] <WhiteFlower> I have a Problem?
[08:17] <Blue1> Devrethman: okay that's beyond my knowledge
[08:17] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: and?
[08:17] <WhiteFlower> and i dont know computers very well?
[08:17] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis well my graphic card sucks for fresh install and everything i have tried all day .. and plenty of folks have tried to help me have failed
[08:17] <erry> Blue1, that player you suggested is pretty awesome :)
[08:17] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: cut to the chase, what is your question?
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  i dont see how thats related to runlevels.
[08:17] <Cpt_Zyph> i have this problem with fedora as well but i set it to run lvl 3 with no gui and i can fix it manualy via terminal
[08:17] <Blue1> erry: it works well with linux
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  fedora and ubuntu dont do runlevels the same
[08:18] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis i get that i'm trying to learn ubunut atm so i dont kno what to do
[08:18] <erry> Blue1, but i said add directory and it seem to do something but play still doesnt do?
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  if you want to go to 'text' mode uin ubuntu - you can append the 'text' option to the end of the kernel boot entry in grub
[08:18] <workspace2> clear
[08:18] <erry> Blue1, and on the menu on the right i cant choose directorys it wont do anything :S
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  or disable the /etc/init/gdm.conf by renaming it to /etc/init/gdm.DONTRUN
[08:18] <WhiteFlower> My Friend gave me a cd and he want all the songs from my computer to that cd
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  to be clear. run level 3 in ubuntu does NOT go into 'text' mode.
[08:19] <Blue1> erry: refresh my memory - what are we talking about?
[08:19] <WhiteFlower> but i dont know how to copy
[08:19] <erry> Blue1, nvm i thinmk o got it
[08:19] <WhiteFlower> all songs to cd
[08:19] <WhiteFlower> please help?
[08:19] <drizzt_> WhiteFlower, it's a piracy, don't do that
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  you want a complete copy of the cd as it is now?
[08:19] <Blue1> okay so....how do you plan to do this?
[08:19] <Cpt_Zyph> ok i was also told in grub to add a "single" entry to load only command line mode
[08:20] <WhiteFlower> yes i have the orignal song cd
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  single goes to single user mode.. 'text' keeps gdm and plymouth from running
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  similer 'effect' buit not quite the same
[08:20] <Cpt_Zyph> this is new to me so forgive me for noobie questions
[08:20] <WhiteFlower> and i copied all the songs to my computer
[08:20] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: I think k3b has a copy cd function
[08:20] <Cpt_Zyph> so in grub boot menu after holding shift i then hit e to edit its boot options.. and i need to change the text in there correct?
[08:20] <WhiteFlower> what is k3b
[08:20] <phlak_user> WhiteFlower: are you on ubuntu
[08:20] <WhiteFlower> no
[08:21] <WhiteFlower> windows xp
[08:21] <Blue1> !k3b | WhiteFlower
[08:21] <dreamnight> help solve the problem, congress ubuntu server on it running crontab that runs mplayer (@ reboot). Playlist play in loop. After an hour or half mplayer stops. Process ends. Can not understand why.
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  then track down a cd copy tool for windows? its not that hard a task.. there was no need to copy the songs to the hd first.. you want a exact clone/copuy of the allready made music cd.
[08:21] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis so in grub boot menu after holding shift i then hit e to edit its boot options.. and i need to change the text in there correct?
[08:21] <Cpt_Zyph> be right back
[08:21] <drizzt_> !piracy | whiteflower
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  yes there will be a 'splash quiet '  I think.. remove thiose and try just 'text'
[08:22] <arpad2> can i boot 10.04 from cd-rw?
[08:22] <WhiteFlower> oh sorry
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> arpad2:  should be able to
[08:22] <arpad2> it freezes
[08:22] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis ? sry i dont folow i'm booting to grub edit menu now
[08:22] <WhiteFlower> but i have original cds i bought from the store
[08:22] <Blue1> arpad2: yes
[08:23] <arpad2> ok, thx
[08:23] <drizzt_> WhiteFlower, then you should pass the original CD, don't copy it
[08:23] <Blue1> night folks
[08:23] <WhiteFlower> ok
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  see some wored that are 'splash quite' or similer at the kernel= line? append the 'text' option to the end
[08:23] <MeatCurtains> anyone know of a program that will let me read header files. I know they are not all empty, yet when I open one its blank
[08:23] <Cpt_Zyph> i see that now
[08:23] <Cpt_Zyph> just remove that?
[08:23] <WhiteFlower> copy of original cd is illegal
[08:23] <dreamnight> help solve the problem, congress ubuntu server on it running crontab that runs mplayer (@ reboot). Playlist play in loop. After an hour or half mplayer stops. Process ends. Can not understand why.
[08:24] <Cpt_Zyph> and what exactly does that do?
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  'text' disables the gdm  so X doswent start.. thats what you asked how to do...
[08:24] <maco> WhiteFlower: if youre making the copy to give to someone else though...
[08:24] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis I see so repace exactly "quiet splash" with "test" thanks doign that now
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> or have you frogotten what you asked for? :)
[08:25] <erry> So is there anything who can help me :(
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  'text'  not test;
[08:25] <WhiteFlower> no he is my cousin
[08:25] <WhiteFlower> brother
[08:25] <Cpt_Zyph> anerr sry
[08:25] <Cpt_Zyph> typo
[08:25] <Cpt_Zyph> and to save settings?? or simple ctrl x to finish the boot with my new adjustments?
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  they diont save.. its a 1 time thing
[08:26] <Cpt_Zyph> baaaaaa
[08:26] <WhiteFlower> new is going out for a month and he wanted only selected songs
[08:26] <dreamnight> can anyone help?
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> if you want it permenet - edit the grub 2 configs
[08:26] <WhiteFlower> that is why i am asking
[08:26] <phlak_user> WhiteFlower: this is a Ubuntu support channel; please install ubuntu and come back for support or reach out to Windoze support channels
[08:26] <Cpt_Zyph> same problem  all the txt is not lined up with my screen i can see the workd {ok} like 10x but i see some txt below that but canc't read it and there is nothing on the rest of my screen
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  i never heard your 'original' problem. :) you were asking how to get to text mode via runlevels.. which isent a ubuntu feature. :)
[08:27] <Cpt_Zyph> dr_willis its like i dunno.. maybe i'll get my camera out and take pictures and uplaod them someplace.. i dont know how else to discribe the issue
[08:27] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis i understand
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:   this is a dvi or vga monitor? or laptop?
[08:27] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis basicly laptop
[08:27] <WhiteFlower> but i dont like windows either and the problem is i dont no how to install ubuntu and work on it
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> !manual | WhiteFlower
[08:28] <Cpt_Zyph> DV series try'n to find out what time of vid card it is... but its nvidia
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  play with it in virtualbox untill you learn it.. then learn to install it.
[08:28] <dreamnight> can anyone help?
[08:29] <WhiteFlower> sorry Dr_Willis i have got my first computers 15 days back and i dont no how to use it
[08:29] <arpad2> how can i boot 10.04 from a pendrive?
[08:29] <WhiteFlower> even i dont know windows very well
[08:29] <drizzt_> phlak_user, intentional misspelling of Microsoft trademarks ,akes us Linux users look like retards
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  time to get reading some docs/books/guides i guess.
[08:30] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis look'n up device on HP's site for exact product specs
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> arpad2:  use unetbootin, or the usb-disk-creator tool and a ubuntu iso image and make a bootable pendrive.
[08:30] <phlak_user> drizzt_: thats just your opinion right?
[08:30] <arpad2> thank you!
[08:30] <drizzt_> phlak_user, no, that's truth
[08:30] <WhiteFlower> will you people help me out learning linux
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> arpad2:  see the 'pendrivelinux' web site for more ways to do it also
[08:31] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: sure, but you need to ask specific questions...
[08:31] <arpad2> ok, i do it
[08:31] <dreamnight> what's the point in these channels, if all ignore each other
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  start with the Ubuntu manual.
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> !manual | WhiteFlower
[08:31] <phlak_user> drizzt_: ah thats why your trying to help him copy files in windows xp
[08:31] <soreau> are ubuntu updates always this slow to download? 3000bps seems unreasonably slow
[08:31] <phlak_user> drizzt_: anyways, take it ot please
[08:31] <Blue1> soreau: yeah that is slow
[08:31] <WhiteFlower> I only know the word linux nothing else about it
[08:31] <Blue1> soreau: not using tin cans ru?
[08:32] <WhiteFlower> i am totally new to this world
[08:32] <WhiteFlower> of computers
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  start with that manual. and  the ubuntu homepage then.
[08:32] <dreamnight> can anyone help?
[08:32] <Blue1> WhiteFlower: go to amazon and look to see what's there.
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  and go download and burn a ubuntu cd. you can boot it and play with it all day long and not hurt anything
[08:32] <WhiteFlower> yes i tried there are lots of books but i dont know from where to start
[08:32] <drizzt_> Dr_Willis, that manual is quite outdated (~9.04 time), has no official support and available only in english
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> drizzt_:  err.. the ubuntu manual just came out for 10.04
[08:33] <BeWop> Hello
[08:33] <Blue1> dreamnight: what is your issue?  it works best if you just say:  hey I need help with...then we aren't left wondering what you need help with.
[08:33] <BeWop> How can I remove libgl1-mesa-swx11 without removing any of it's dependancies?
[08:33] <WhiteFlower> i tried to download ubuntu cd but it says 3days 7 hrs remaining
[08:33] <dreamnight> Blue1 help solve the problem, congress ubuntu server on it running crontab that runs mplayer (@ reboot). Playlist play in loop. After an hour or half mplayer stops. Process ends. Can not understand why.
[08:33] <WhiteFlower> then i cancelled the download
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> WhiteFlower:  local book stores proberly have magazines with the cd's also
[08:34] <Cpt_Zyph> Dr_Willis its a dv6000 series .. tab number is dv6810us .. video card is the following / INVIDIA GeForce Go 7150M (tho it think its a typo and supposed to be nvidia but )
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> !shipit | WhiteFlower
[08:34] <drizzt_> dreamnight, write a wrapper script which outputs stderr and stdout in some files
[08:34] <Blue1> dreamnight: first why lock mplayer into crontab?  no one does that.  I don't know why it ends.
[08:34] <cavej03> hi guys thinking fo getting a dell adamo laptop, Thoughts and opinions please
[08:34] <cavej03> or perhaps i should get a macbook air
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> Cpt_Zyph:  ive never had uissues like that with my nvidia systems - so not sure what else to try.  except perjhaps an external monitor. or the alternative installer cd
[08:35] <BeWop> Anyone know how to remove packages without removing their dependancies?
[08:35] <Blue1> BeWop: not really -- try man dpkg?
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> brb
[08:35] <BeWop> Blue1: How?
[08:36] <erry> Btw
[08:36] <erry> if i boot without gui
[08:36] <erry> it's fine
[08:36] <Blue1> enter man dpkg at a terminal window
[08:36] <erry> Except everything moves more to the right than it should
[08:36] <WhiteFlower> ok i will try that site