[12:05] <histo> lamrz: a dd image is a bit by bit copy of whatever you fed to it.  So if you gave it your hd like if=/dev/sda  then it's a copy of everything on that drive including the partitioning, free space, slack etc...  if you did if=/dev/sda1  then you just copied partition 1
[12:05] <Quoexl> nope didnt say a word
[12:05] <lamrz> histo, I was wondering if I start reusing the original drive again, trusting that I have its image now. the reason being that I need disk space
[12:06] <lamrz> if I can* start
[12:07] <philinux> wget;~ since a while back ubuntu puts out updates in a phased way via software updater. This is to prevent borking all users if something really gets messed up. i'll try to find a linky
[12:07] <histo> lamrz: if you are really concerned you could compute a hash of the drive compared to the dd image and see that they match
[12:09] <wget> philinux: Then updating via CLI isn't recommended then? I don't know if Software Updater is still using apt-get.
[12:09] <philinux> wget;~ this was the rational https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhasedUpdates
[12:09] <histo> wget: you can update via cli
[12:09] <philinux> wget;~ http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/phased-updates-to-start-rolling-out-for-ubuntu-13-04
[12:09] <ObrienDave> wget, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:10] <lamrz> histo, I trust that they match, it is not my concern. I'd more like to know if I can trust dd image's durability, that is, whether it stays intact throughout a possibly long recovery operation. in other words, whether if I can safely resume using the original drive.
[12:10] <philinux> wget;~ do a net search for ubuntu phased updates
[12:10] <Quoexl> !works for me
[12:10] <histo> lamrz: to answer your question yes it's safe... However in the work I do we create hashes and verify.
[12:11] <Quoexl> trust, but verify
[12:11] <lamrz> histo, thank you! I can also do the hash verification, but never did it before. could you maybe have a link for it?
[12:12] <philinux> wget;~ you will notice now that if you say run software updater there maybe no updates offered. But if you run the cli commands there are updates.
[12:12] <philinux> this is phased updates at work
[12:12] <histo> lamrz: have you since booted the drive after running the dd?
[12:12] <lamrz> histo, yes
[12:12] <histo> lamrz: then hashes won't match
[12:13] <Wr3x> Is it best to use X.Org.X open source drivers provided by Ubuntu  for ATI cards vs proprietary drivers?
[12:13] <histo> lamrz: if 1 bit on the drive changes they will miss match
[12:13] <rymate1234> is there a way to use xrdp with x11vnc?
[12:13] <neutralizer> is there a portable system analysis app for ubuntu which can run under "Try Ubuntu" (the option you get when you boot from USB)? I need it to check laptop battery charge/discharge rate plus for HDD read/write speeds etc
[12:13] <lamrz> histo..ok, I think there shouldnt be a mismatch..
[12:13] <histo> rymate1234: you mean use xrdp instead of x11vnc?
[12:13] <Quoexl> rymate1234: see the rdp, not xvnc?
[12:13] <histo> lamrz: hopefully not
[12:14] <wget> philinux: Ok, as I said, I'm a dev and ArchLinux user, I won't use Ubuntu by myself. So couldn't say when updates will be offered to the user. Personally, what I saw, I dist-upgraded the machine after first install and rebooted. After the reboot, the software manager was proposing me updates I've had already installed.
[12:14] <lamrz> histo, thank you! I was also trying to find the exiftool command to delete image metadata, might you have this command?
[12:14] <wget> philinux: The phased out technique could explain why.
[12:14] <philinux> wget;~ exactly
[12:15] <philinux> wget;~ if you'd gone ahead with the updater it would have checked again and it would have seen that you installed stuff already
[12:16] <philinux> wget;~ for a novice user I'd stick with software updater
[12:16] <wget> philinux: So for now, if the user wants to use Software Center (and he will, since he isn't tech savvy), I won't use dist-upgrade the machine.
[12:16] <wget> philinux: Your asumption is only right if the app is already launched. The notification "new updates are available" doesn't check again, according to my tests.
[12:16] <neutralizer> "is there a portable system analysis app for ubuntu which can run under "Try Ubuntu" (the option you get when you boot from USB)? I need it to check laptop battery charge/discharge rate plus for HDD read/write speeds etc" and also shows how battery is comparison to new battery and how HDD is in comparison to new HDD.
[12:17] <bluenemo> hi guys. i'm on 14.04 and searching for the tun.ko module to run some vpn.. cant find it somehow. any hints if it has a new name now or sth?
[12:17] <philinux> wget;~ if you're at the machine then dist-upgrade fine as you can reboot and check if all ok and if not fix it for them
[12:17] <histo> lamrz: looks like exiv2 could do it
[12:17] <lamrz> could you please help me know the exiftool command to delete image metadata?
[12:18] <lamrz> histo, I'd used exiftool before, haven't heard of exiv2 yet, will check the web
[12:18] <histo> lamrz: did you try exiftool --help
[12:18] <philinux> wget;~ I just let the updater run once a day. Except on my test machine running  utopic
[12:19] <histo> lamrz: or man exiftool I'm not familiar with it so you may have to read the man page for the proper option
[12:21] <lamrz> histo, sure, I'll read through the help
[12:22] <YamakasY> any webdav expert here ? or actually autofs ones ?
[12:23] <histo> lamrz: exiftool -all= some.jpg
[12:24] <lamrz> histo, thank you very very much!
[12:25] <histo> lamrz: np found a man page online
[12:26]  * histo needs sleep
[12:27] <Quoexl> amen bro
[12:28] <ObrienDave> lamrz, http://linux.die.net/man/1/exiftool
[12:29] <Wr3x> Hmmmm Ubuntu 14.04 keeps crashing for me
[12:30] <ObrienDave> what exactly crashes?
[12:30] <Wr3x> Everything locks up and freezes. Yesterday my num lock and caps lock LEDs were flashing as it happened
[12:35] <AnalogDitigal> Hi guys, I'm on Precise (12.04). The OS doesn't recongise the CD drive. All the google results for people with the same problem brought up people who had managed to get it working by physically removing and replugging it after changing a switch position, or cleaning it etc. Any software troubleshooting?
[12:36] <AnonLucifer> yo!
[12:37] <daftykins> AnalogDitigal: ignoring the installed OS, is it able to boot a liveDVD?
[12:37] <daftykins> so that you know it works
[12:38] <AnalogDitigal> daftykins  - Hmm.. Hadn't really thought about that. I'm on the PC right now. Will check. But anything else to check before I reboot?
[12:38] <AnalogDitigal> daftykins - it works/worked on Windows
[12:39] <OerHeks> AnalogDitigal, so what happens when you insert a cd?
[12:39] <AnalogDitigal> OerHeks - Not even able to do that. Pressing the button doesn't even open the drive.
[12:40] <AnalogDitigal> OerHeks - I don't think it's getting any power. Whether it's a software issue is the question. Wondering if there's some way to check,
[12:40] <cfhowlett> AnonLucifer ask your ubuntu questions
[12:41] <guynux_> bonjour
[12:41] <guynux_> des soucis pour connecter un clavier bluetooth sous xfce
[12:41] <newbie89> 안녕하세요
[12:42] <ObrienDave> !fr | guynux_
[12:42] <daftykins> AnalogDitigal: if you're not willing to go as far as rebooting into another OS to check, there is nothing we can do
[12:42] <daftykins> AnalogDitigal: but not ejecting is unlikely to be software ;)
[12:42] <OerHeks> AnalogDitigal, conflicting info, 'works in windows'  'button does not open drive'  'dont think it is getting power'
[12:43] <raub> AnalogDitigal: I assume you already checked dmesg and syslog for any funny business
[12:43] <AnalogDitigal> OerHeks - WAS working in Windows.. but that was quite some time ago. But why should it be conflicting? Isn't there a software "switch" which controls power itself?
[12:44] <AnalogDitigal> raub - nope. This is the kind of thing I was asking about. What do I do?
[12:44] <AnonLucifer> do u guys know good video edit programs fro ubuntu?
[12:44] <raub> Go through dmesg (or /var/log/dmesg) and see if it mentions your drive
[12:44] <Aaruni> Lubuntu 12.04 refuses to connect to wired internet via ethernet cable. hardware doesn't show any activity either (no lights). help ?
[12:45] <raub> AnalogDitigal: OerHeks point is to see if problem follows the OS or not
[12:45] <daftykins> hey i said it too ;_;
[12:45] <daftykins> ;)
[12:45] <raub> daftykins: me read slow, and type slower ;)
[12:46] <cfhowlett> AnonLucifer openshot cinerella kdenlive        my preference for easy editing is openshot.  very easy and intuitive for basic edits
[12:46] <AnalogDitigal> daftykins - lol. yup. raub, OerHeks - What I'm asking is...isn't it possible that the drive works fine in Windows, and doesn't even get power, in Ubuntu? Is the power/eject drive mechanism completely independent of OS? (brb... trawling through dmesg)
[12:46] <pdo_fn14> !package dpkg
[12:47] <OerHeks> AnalogDitigal, no, power is independent from your OS
[12:48] <daftykins> AnalogDitigal: is this a desktop or laptop? your ideas are pretty crazy
[12:48] <raub> Aaruni: Do you know if the ethernet device was recognized at boot time? Do you know who is controlling it? Does it show up in, say, ifconfig or maybe even lspci or /proc/net?
[12:48] <AnalogDitigal> daftykins, OerHeks, raub - laptop. And no, not able to find anything about a cd-rom in dmesg
[12:48] <shellox> hi, is anyone using high resolution ultrabooks here(2560 x 1440 or higher)
[12:49] <Aaruni> raub: it doesn't show up in ifconfig. in lspci, it does show up, but as an unclaimed network device
[12:49] <ObrienDave> aarontc, proprietary driver?
[12:50] <raub> AnalogDitigal: so it did not recognize it. Have you tried booting off a livecd as suggested to see if it is there? Have you consider it might be a bit loose 9physical)?
[12:50] <AnalogDitigal> daftykins, raub, OerHeks - perhaps I should've skipped mentioning "getting power". What I mean is that pressing the button doesn't do anything. The LED doesn't light up, nor does the drive pop-out. (It's an Acer TravelMate P-643M)
[12:50] <OerHeks> AnalogDitigal, one step you can do: open terminal( ctrl alt T):  eject # this softwarecommand will release cd-rom tray
[12:50] <raub> AnalogDitigal: if it is a removable drive, it might be a bit loose
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !cookie|OerHeks whoa!  never knew about that command!  thanks!
[12:51] <OerHeks> AnalogDitigal, if that does not work, i assume your drive is dead and will not work in windows either
[12:51] <AnalogDitigal> raub - inbuilt. OerHeks - unable to find or open device for cd-rom
[12:51] <raub> Aaruni: paste the line from lspci for ethernet drive
[12:51] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, eject && eject t # to close again
[12:52] <Aaruni> raub: I don't have access to the machine right now. It was something atheros
[12:52] <cfhowlett> OerHeks that there is some ninja level linux command line!
[12:52] <raub> OerHeks: lshw time for AnalogDitigal perhaps?
[12:52] <daftykins> AnalogDitigal: hardware.
[12:52] <OerHeks> raub, lshw should show the device, yes
[12:52] <AnalogDitigal> raub, OerHeks, daftykins - yeah.. I'll check the LiveCD now. (raub - I did lshw | grep *cd-rom >> nothing)
[12:53] <raub> just grepping for cdrom might not suffice; it could be using something else
[12:53] <daftykins> AnalogDitigal: since it's a laptop, power off, pull the mains and battery, then power on and enter BIOS, try to eject. Consider removing a single screw underneath to reseat the drive too, if you feel confident. But yes - this is not ubuntu :)
[12:54] <raub> Aaruni: when you do find out, let us know. That said AFAIK atheros is usually wireless
[12:54] <AnalogDitigal> daftykins - haha.. Will do. Thanks guys! (cc @raub, OerHeks)
[12:54] <raub> Adding to what daftykins said,while you are there, go to the bios and see if it sees the drive
[12:54] <Aaruni> raub: that's what I thought too, but lspci shows nothing for wireless, and AFAIK, the machine has a RaLink wireless chip ( i remember installing ralink drivers under windows for wi-fi)
[12:55] <_blasty_> 'sudo pip install libusb1' fails with 'from requests.adapters import BaseAdapter .. ImportError: No module named adapters' .. it seems the 'requests' package has hosed pip. I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-pip/+bug/1308714 .. but Im not exactly sure what the sane resolution here is.
[12:55] <Aaruni> also not, raub, Lubuntu comes with kernel 3.2, I think that may be a problem. I just made a customised install image with 3.13. you think that should fix it?
[12:55] <raub> Aaruni: pastebin the output of slpci and lshw when you do get your hands on laptop
[12:56] <raub> Aaruni: I honeslty do not know
[12:57] <jnhghy> dash search is not finding my .odt files since this morning update - anybody knows about a bug? or is this happening only to me? any idea how I can check the last update updated softwares?
[12:58] <Sagar> Hello, i am getting this error
[12:58] <Sagar> http://pastebin.com/V3aZ3pNS
[12:58] <Sagar> i just updated the os using do-release-upgrade
[12:59] <hateball> Sagar: well, it tells you what to do
[13:00] <schnitzl--> hey, can someone recommend a multu touch tool. i am not very happy with touchegg. it has hight cpu usage after a while, this seems to be a known bug + i wont work very good with i3wm + it seems as if its not developed any more...suggstions welcome.
[13:00] <Sagar> hateball: what should i do?
[13:00] <Sagar> please tell me
[13:00] <Aaruni> Sagar: sudo apt-get install -f
[13:00] <hateball> Sagar: ^
[13:00] <schnitzl--> with multi touch tool i mean some kin dof tool wich supports gesture recognition like swipe to go back in the browser etc.
[13:00] <Sagar> aaruni: did the same but still the same errors
[13:01] <hateball> Sagar: Also, why are you running as root instead of using sudo
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Sagar: easystroke has gesture recognition :)
[13:01] <Aaruni> Sagar: did you apt-get update, before trying to install -f ?
[13:01] <Sagar> http://pastebin.com/FtKTwgFg
[13:01] <Sagar> yes
[13:01] <Somaya> hi how can i boot my flash to install iso image of ubuntu 14.04
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Somaya: set it to be the first boot device in BIOS
[13:02] <ObrienDave> Somaya, needs to be setup in BIOS
[13:02] <Somaya> how
[13:02] <schnitzl--> ActionParsnip: I think you ment "schnitzl" ;)  but thanks. i will take a look
[13:02] <cfhowlett> Somaya when booting, a message should appear "hit f something to change boot options"
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Sagar: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:03] <Sagar> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[13:03] <YamakasY> ok, I can mount manually my davshare but only as root
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> !info libglib2.0-0
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Sagar: sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-0
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Sagar: is that ok?
[13:04] <Sagar> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/qwqJ2bwH
[13:05] <Somaya> cfhowlett i did format my usb to ntfs and use virtual clone drive to boot my flash but it didn't worked
[13:05] <cfhowlett> Somaya the error message was ... ?
[13:06] <Sagar> ActionParsnip: what could be broken?
[13:06] <Somaya> when i restart my computer it says the drive doesn't have os
[13:06] <Hounddog> I have a weird issue, i cant make my sublime editor visible, the program is running when i try to select it, t selects other windows instead
[13:06] <Aaruni> Sagar: looks like conflicting versions of the same software.
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Somaya try a different USB -
[13:07] <Hounddog> I even tried using alt+space to move it incase it is out of the window and it just selects chrome browser or even the terminal
[13:07] <designbybeck__> When I try to open my Documents folder from with the file browser, it closes
[13:07] <Somaya> i tried 2 usb but it didn't worked
[13:07] <designbybeck__> Other folders seem to work, just that one closes. I've checked and turn off large file thumbnails and such thinking that migth be it
[13:07] <Sagar> Aaruni: yes i think so what should i dO?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Sagar: have you added any PPAs?
[13:07] <Sagar> PPAs?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Sagar: yes, 3rd party sources for packages
[13:07] <Hounddog> i have no idea how to get back into my editor...
[13:07] <Sagar> also i ran aptitude install libglib2.0-0
[13:08] <Sagar> its removing packages
[13:08] <lamrz> hello again, I have two OS running on my device, and I'd like to access the home folder of the other OS. some time ago I'd used a command with ecryptfs to do so, but I cant remember it anymore. could you maybe help please?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Sagar: why are you using aptitude?
[13:08] <odisa> lamrz: two instances of Ubuntu?
[13:08] <lamrz> odisa, correct
[13:09] <ugx578> lamrz: do you still have the pass/keys?
[13:09] <odisa> lamrz: ahh hmm.. I had to do that to after encrypting one of the home folders.. trying to remember how I remedied that
[13:09] <Sagar> ActionParsnip: i thought i could solve the issue
[13:09] <lamrz> odisa, I just want to access home folder
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> lamrz: which 2 OSes do you have?
[13:09] <lamrz> ugx578, yes
[13:09] <lamrz> 12.04 and 14.04
[13:09] <lamrz> ActionParsnip, 12.04 and 14.04
[13:09] <odisa> I think it may have been a chown/chmod thing
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> lamrz: seems weird to run that....
[13:10] <ugx578> lamrz: if you can see the others file system, say see 12.04's from 14.04, you can mount the folder
[13:10] <lamrz> ActionParsnip, if it can be done without it, the better :)
[13:10] <Somaya> efhowlett may be i made mistake on booting my flash do you have any direction to how boot the usb
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> lamrz: without what?
[13:10] <Aaruni> Sagar: I'm not sure about this, but try to purge libc6, and then try again ?
[13:10] <TJ-> lamrz: "man ecryptfs-mount-private"
[13:11] <lamrz> ugx578, I try to see 14.04. from 12.04. but there is a file named "access your private data.desktop" there
[13:11] <odisa> I'm looking to give a shot at developing an indicator for Ubuntu, but the links in this reference page are dead: https://unity.ubuntu.com/projects/appindicators/
[13:11] <ikonia> do not try to purge libc6
[13:11] <ObrienDave> Somaya, we told you, you have to set it up in BIOS to read the USB drive first
[13:11] <odisa> What is a good resource to start with?
[13:11] <lamrz> ActionParsnip, maybe I got your previous comment wrong..I thought you meant using that command wouldnt be necessary
[13:11] <Sagar> Aaruni and ActionParsnip: >>> http://pastebin.com/utrxXjsJ
[13:11] <Somaya> do you people have any direction to how boot the usb
[13:11] <lamrz> TJ- , thank you!
[13:11] <ugx578> lamrz: I think your looking for a .Private folder to mount with ecryptfs
[13:12] <ikonia> Somaya: set boot device in your bios,
[13:12] <ikonia> Somaya: that's all you need to do
[13:12] <odisa> Somaya: get into your BIOS boot settings
[13:12] <odisa> Usually it's escape or one of the function keys
[13:12] <lamrz> ugx578, I dont know..there is only this file, and when I click it says the link is broken ?!?
[13:13] <Somaya> odisa how can i do that
[13:13] <lamrz> anyway, I'm switching to the other system..seems faster :)
[13:13] <Sagar> ??
[13:13] <ObrienDave> Somaya, research your computer model for BIOS settings
[13:13] <odisa> Somaya: when you start your computer, hit the appropriate key before it gets the chance to get to the login screen
[13:13] <Aaruni> Somaya: when the computer is booting up, you'll usually see something like "Press esc to enter BIOS setup", or similar
[13:14] <ugx578> lamrz: sudo mount -t ecryptfs (14.04computer)/home/username/.Private (wherever on 12.02)
[13:14] <Aaruni> Sagar: dunno.
[13:14] <Sagar> :o
[13:14] <ugx578> lamrz: and vice versa
[13:15] <lamrz> ugx578, thank you! I've now already started the other OS, but next time I'll try the command
[13:15] <ObrienDave> Somaya, i've seen, F2, F1, F10, F12, home, delete, esc. could be any one of those or others
[13:15] <Somaya> tnx everybody
[13:16] <Sagar> anyone??
[13:16] <Sagar> http://pastebin.com/utrxXjsJ
[13:16] <ugx578> Sagar: why not run 'apt-get -f install'
[13:17] <Aaruni> ugx578: he's done that. it doesn't fix
[13:17] <Sagar> tried still the same error
[13:17] <ugx578> oh gotcha
[13:17] <ugx578> i just had the problem!
[13:17] <ugx578> it's libglib
[13:17] <odisa> Sagar: try apt-get -f install as it suggests
[13:17] <ugx578> i think let me check, i think there's a 2.0 and a 1.1
[13:17] <odisa> oh
[13:17] <ugx578> and they aren't compatible
[13:17] <Sagar> odisa: [18:47] <Aaruni> ugx578: he's done that. it doesn't fix
[13:18] <odisa> Sagar: yeah I'm a bit slow, lol
[13:18] <Sagar> ok i got this
[13:18] <ugx578> no i was thinking libgcrypt...
[13:19] <loa> how do you think what is normal size for root partition for ubuntu?
[13:19] <Sagar> after i run "apt-get -f install"  >> http://pastebin.com/RUqFQw9n
[13:19] <ObrienDave> loa, mine is 15G going to make it 30G soon
[13:20] <ugx578> Sagar: do you have software center running in the background? it looks like dpkg is locked out
[13:20] <loa> and how much free space on it you have?
[13:20] <lamrz> sorry again...might cut-pasting dd images between partitions affect the quality of carbon-copied data in them?
[13:20] <ObrienDave> now, about 4.5G
[13:20] <Sagar> ugx578: how can i check that?
[13:20] <odisa> Sagar: run "top" in your terminal
[13:20] <odisa> (press Q to quit out of top)
[13:20] <Sagar> http://prntscr.com/3rft0v
[13:20] <ugx578> Sagar: if your in a GUI it should be in a tab, if it's headless maybe try a restart
[13:21] <Sagar> i am using sshd (putty)
[13:21] <luckybunny> ok so I'm thinking of reinstalling ubuntu onto the same partition it was already on (sda6). Gparted tells me it's ext4 (which I expected, being my ubuntu partition), but also has it flagged as msftdata
[13:21] <ugx578> Sagar: have you tried restarting the server? if you can, nerveracking when it doesn't come up again lol
[13:21] <Sagar> ok let me make a reboot
[13:22] <luckybunny> this makes me a little suspicious of it, because I definitely don't want to go over any of the windows stuff on the computer
[13:22] <luckybunny> just reinstalling the ubuntu
[13:22] <ugx578> luckybunny: it might be looking at /boot?
[13:23] <ObrienDave> luckybunny, msftdata is just the partition table header
[13:23] <Sagar> ok done
[13:23] <luckybunny> so there's nothing windows on there?
[13:23] <ObrienDave> luckybunny, dual boot?
[13:23] <luckybunny> yes
[13:23] <Sagar> ugx578: i got this on login now >> http://pastebin.com/zsQH14ix
[13:23] <odisa> Sagar: you did sudo the command right? the apt-get -f install
[13:23] <ugx578> odisa: that would cause it for sure lol
[13:24] <ugx578> Sagar: your running root though that shouldn't be the problem
[13:24] <ugx578> Sagar: try running apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[13:24] <Sagar> Yes i am on root, is that a problem?
[13:24] <Sagar> ok wait
[13:24] <_1_wuilder> Mira ésta imagen: http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/116/6s59.jpg
[13:24] <luckybunny> I don't want to kill windows, so if there's any important windows files on sda6 I'm not gonna reinstall ubuntu on it, but being ext4 formatted, I honestly can't see how windows would have anything there, because it can't natively read ext file systems
[13:24] <mikecmpbll> anyone got any idea how i could debug a reboot taking an hour and a half?
[13:24] <mikecmpbll> syslog shows nothing during that hour and a half
[13:25] <ugx578> mikecmbll: iohang?
[13:25]  * mikecmpbll googles
[13:25] <ObrienDave> luckybunny, just means it's a msdos partition table
[13:25] <Sagar> ugx578: http://pastebin.com/UtyJKBYn
[13:25] <luckybunny> ah
[13:26] <ObrienDave> luckybunny, as long as you install Ubuntu to sda6, you SHOULD be ok
[13:26] <ugx578> Sagar: this one's one you, it might mess things up worse or it might fix it, but if I were you i'd install those 4 dependencies manually , the ones that say "but it is not installed"
[13:27] <admin_> hello
[13:27] <Sagar> ugx578: so how could i do that?
[13:27] <ugx578> Sagar: *on you* first one's, apt-get install libcanberra-gtk3-0
[13:27] <ugx578> Sagar: then apt-get install libgtk-3-0
[13:27] <ugx578> Sagar: etc
[13:27] <admin_> do you know  a rpg game for xubuntu??
[13:28] <admin_> why my parole media player not available??
[13:29] <admin_> hi
[13:29] <Sagar> ugx578: http://prntscr.com/3rfvlr
[13:30] <ObrienDave> luckybunny, you going to use live DVD to install?
[13:30] <luckybunny> USB
[13:30] <admin_> no i using live usb
[13:30] <theadmin> admin_: They aren't talking to you, watch for the nickname to find replies to your own questions
[13:31] <admin_> hai
[13:31] <ObrienDave> same diff. when it asks where, select "something else" then select sda6
[13:31] <theadmin> Sagar: "menu.lst" sounds ancient, what Ubuntu version is this
[13:31] <Sagar> theadmin: it's 14.04
[13:31] <theadmin> Very odd, are you using grub-ḷegacy?
[13:31] <admin_> oh i'am sorry
[13:31] <admin_> ^_^
[13:32] <admin_> he he he
[13:32] <theadmin> Sagar: (that last one was meant for you), are you using grub-legacy
[13:33] <Aaruni> Sagar: from which version did you upgrade to 14.04 ?
[13:34] <pinnen> Sagar: just keep the old version if it works and just let apt resolve the problems for you? :) "keep the local version currently installed"
[13:34] <pinnen> cant be a big hop in version difference if you haven't made an upgrade from 12.04 or something
[13:35] <odisa> Hmm.. I'm trying to install ubuntu-sdk but I'm getting a "403 - Forbidden" error.. http://pastebin.com/RZubBjvR (starting line 200)
[13:35] <lamrz> ugx578, it seems I have the only chance to access 14.04 from 12.04...but the command opens a help text for mount command
[13:35] <pinnen> Sagar: sorry, I havent read your whole story.. forget what I said :)
[13:36] <theadmin> odisa: Your mirror is broken, select a different one in Software Center
[13:36] <pinnen> fought you had dependencie-problems
[13:37] <odisa> thanks theadmin.. suspected that
[13:37] <lamrz> it seems I need to install ecryptfs utils to use ecryptfs....is there another way to access the other OS home folder?
[13:39] <odisa> lamrz: by not using home folder encryptio
[13:40] <lamrz> odisa, so the only way is to install and use ecryptfs?
[13:42] <odisa> not sure lamrz
[13:42] <odisa> lamrz: is it imperative that you have home folder encryption?
[13:43] <lamrz> odisa, there is already one
[13:45] <might_get_loud> my terminal wont run
[13:45] <might_get_loud> i can run root shell from recovery mode
[13:45] <might_get_loud> but inside xfce
[13:45] <might_get_loud> terminator nor xfce-emulator wont run
[13:45] <might_get_loud> i tried runing htop but it was error msg saying invalid input/output
[13:45] <might_get_loud> any ideas?
[13:45] <unopaste> might_get_loud you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[13:46] <ice9> how to disable vsync?
[13:47] <hateball> might_get_loud: is your disk full?
[13:47] <lamrz> rephrasing my question : is there a method to use to access home folder of the other OS on the same drive? except for using ecrytpfs?
[13:47] <might_get_loud> no, my disk is not full
[13:48] <might_get_loud> 50  gigs free
[13:48] <OerHeks> ice9, you can disable vsync in nvidia control center
[13:49] <ice9> OerHeks: I don't have nvidia
[13:49] <OerHeks> ice9, vsync is an option in nvidia, not ati AFAIK
[13:50] <loa> is theare way to create something like elastic partition?
[13:50] <loa> something wich i can mount using loop
[13:50] <OerHeks> ice then give us more info, what videocard?
[13:50] <loa> but with elastic size?
[13:53] <might_get_loud> can someone paste me the answer( if any) i had to change my pc
[13:53] <mikecmpbll> so uh, looking at the log it seems like this is the cause of my slow boot: it reboots by cron at 4am, when it's rebooted ntpdate corrects the time (it's out by 2 mins!) this sets it back before 4am, and the reboot cron seems to run again ..
[13:53] <mikecmpbll> anyone ever encountered this before?
[13:54] <Putti> Hi! I'm trying to use PAM to disable/unlock gnome screen saver. Unfortunately I found that gnome-screensaver-command -d couldn't be used, because there is a bug in ubuntu 14.04. Does anyone have a workaround for this? Thanks!
[13:54] <mikecmpbll> not sure if it's getting in to a loop thereafter.
[13:54] <ugx578> rofl
[13:55] <loa> how do you think, if i change io shelduer back cfq will i notice something?
[13:55] <lakupiippu> How can I mount a 'filesystem.squashfs' file?
[13:55] <loa> i want to ionice few backup jobs
[13:55] <loa> but with deadline i can't do that.
[13:57] <Slart> mikecmpbll: why not make it reboot a bit later.. shutdown has a switch for added time, I think
[13:58] <Slart> mikecmpbll: so the cronjob runs the command to "reboot in 30 minutes".. even if it then adjusts the clock it won't go back to before the reboot command was run
[13:58] <Slart> mikecmpbll: or you can just run the ntp daemon to adjust the clock continously.. or run a clock update around 3-ish... chose your poison =)
[14:01] <mikecmpbll> Slart: decent idea! thanks i'll try that
[14:03] <zkv> Hello! How can i make my wifi work in just installed ubuntu? I have read wifi documentation and have not found any information that can help me.. All corresponding packages are installed. But i think there is no driver.. Please any idea how can i go on with it?
[14:04] <ObrienDave> zkv, which brand of adapter are you using?
[14:05] <zkv> ObrienDave, i have Network controller:Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 when i do lspci | grep Network
[14:05] <ObrienDave> !broadcomm | zkv
[14:05] <ObrienDave> !broadcom | zkv
[14:06] <zkv> ObrienDave, thank you very much!!!
[14:06] <lamrz> I've installed ecryptfs, and typed the command here, leaving the "mount passphrase" blank. where will I find the generated password?
[14:06] <lamrz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623705/
[14:06] <rafaelpt> hi
[14:08] <rafaelpt> My laptop overheats a bit after suspension. Info: Hp g62, Ubuntu-gnome 3.10 14.04, Hybrid Graphics Intel/ Radeon HD 5xxx
[14:09] <ObrienDave> rafaelpt, have you checked for latest BIOS firmware lately?
[14:10] <rafaelpt> ObrienDave , I think I have the latest update, which is from 2011 i think
[14:10] <lamrz> sorry, disconnection...I cant proceed now to avoid losing any password. could you maybe tell me where the generated password is? I typed in this command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623705/
[14:10] <ObrienDave> i had HP bios fan issues. check HP for latest BIOS
[14:11] <cfhowlett> zkv fwiw, I used the no internet access STA methodology with a 12.04 ISO.  90 seconds on the command line and I had wifi
[14:11] <lamrz> is there anyone to help please?
[14:12] <cfhowlett> !patience|lamrz
[14:12] <Slart> lamrz: does this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[14:12] <lamrz> cfhowlett..sorry
[14:13] <cfhowlett> lamrz you encrypted your HDD.  It's requesting your encryption password
[14:13] <Slart> lamrz: search for "recovering your mount passphrase" on that page
[14:14] <nikolam> I would really like to know who made ALL the names of ALL PPAs I had installed in 13.10, appear like "disabled in updates to trustu"
[14:14] <ObrienDave> nikolam, safety feature
[14:14] <cfhowlett> nikolam this ^^
[14:15] <nikolam> more like some moronic "feature" ..
[14:15] <Slart> nikolam: so, it didn't add "disabled" to the name? just replaced the name? annoying...
[14:15] <nikolam> yup
[14:15] <nikolam> it was problem also before, just it is not fixed, becaus enoone cares
[14:16] <ObrienDave> better than borking your install due to outdated PPAs
[14:16] <trijntje> nikolam, just use a search and replace function to restore the names, even gedit can do that for you
[14:17] <Slart> ObrienDave: noone arguing that disabling the repos was bad.. but replacing the name "My awesome repository for firefox special updates" with just "disabled" is just mean.. why not just add disabled to the name so you still know what it was
[14:17] <nikolam> trijntje, no I will not. Use search replace on system files. no thank you, this is not 1993
[14:17] <lamrz> Slart, thank you, I have the generated (mount) passphrase now. now, with this, will I be able to access my other OS' home folder?
[14:18] <nikolam> seems like comment is displayed first if it is enabled under repo. so removing comment might display it right
[14:18] <Slart> lamrz: I have no idea.. I have never used encryption myself.. just had luck with the google gods =)
[14:19] <lamrz> Slart, I once used it, and was able to move the contents of my home folder into this private directory created by ecryptfs, I think..but it's been a long time, so forgot how it was done.
[14:19] <oal> Any ideas why I get "The following packages have unmet dependencies: libssl-dev : Depends: libssl1.0.0 (= 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2) but 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2.1 is to be installed"?
[14:19] <lamrz> my original problem is that HDD of my other is full, so the system starts, but the desktop is shown blank. no launcher, no folder
[14:20] <lamrz> this way I hope to move files from there
[14:20] <lamrz> my other os*
[14:20] <nikolam> I mean maybe I am the one who can do surgery on my list of PPA on every upgrade but regular user will just be left without PPAs without understanding what killed it's apps
[14:20] <Slart> lamrz: sorry.. I have no idea what is possible.. but I'm sure there is someone here that knows
[14:20] <nikolam> also it offered removing numerous apps I think could stay just fine
[14:21] <lamrz> Slart, yes, I will get started with it, and  see..
[14:22] <ugx578> lamrz: you should be able to just mount it
[14:22] <trijntje> nikolam, this is not the place to complain, and it seems you can already solve your problem
[14:22] <ice9> after I installed gnome on ubuntu and removed it the app menus are not displayed in the title bar as it should be in unity, how do I restore it?
[14:22] <bildz> question, in /etc/resolv.conf, why doesnt it go to the next nameserver, after the first one fails?  I'm trying to search multiple domains with 4 nameservers listed.  Is this possible?
[14:23] <ugx578> lamrz: on your full system the file for your ecryptfs directory should be /home/(username)/.Private
[14:24] <ugx578> lamrz: sudo mount -t (thatfile) /mountfolder
[14:24] <pavlos> bildz, man resolvconf
[14:24] <ugx578> lamrz: *sudo mount -t ecryptfs (thatfile) /mountfolder
[14:25] <lamrz> ugx578, thank you so much..I hope so, I will log out now as the procedure requires.
[14:25] <ugx578> lamrz: good luck
[14:26] <thedoctor> hi
[14:26] <lamrz> ugx578, thank you!
[14:26] <Flolila> hello pls help i want to run bleachbit but it doesnt start. i get this error
[14:26] <Flolila> Traceback (most recent call last):
[14:26] <Flolila>   File "/usr/bin/bleachbit", line 41, in <module>
[14:26] <Flolila>     import gtk
[14:26] <Flolila> ImportError: No module named gtk
[14:26] <redcross> bit locker
[14:27] <grimeton> what happened to swat in 14.04?
[14:27] <redcross> is dying hard and fast
[14:27] <ugx578> Flolila sudo apt-get build-dep bleachbit
[14:27] <redcross> swat ?
[14:27] <redcross> dep ?
[14:27] <nikolam> trijntje, it is Exactly place to complain and it is not MY tproblem but Ubuntu update problem.
[14:28] <redcross> what does dep mean ?
[14:28] <odisa> Hey. I'm trying to assign a keyboard shortcut to print temperatures.. so I tried binding a shortcut to the command "temp" (my alias for sensors | grep "temp"), as well as "gnome-terminal && temp", but neither work..  how can I do this?
[14:28] <ugx578> redcross: should be dependency
[14:28] <redcross> intall and fix depndices ?
[14:28] <Flolila> ugx578 it didnt help i still get the same error
[14:28] <redcross> but i meant the whole string of commands ?
[14:28] <Slart> odisa: try something like    gnome-terminal -c temp    instead... or whatever the switch is... man gnome-terminal is good
[14:28] <ugx578> redcross: apt-get build-dep installs all the dependencies to compile
[14:28] <redcross> nice
[14:28] <trijntje> nikolam, no its not, because nobody here can fix it. File a bug if you think you have a better solution than disabling the ppa's
[14:29] <cfhowlett> nikolam so you're complaining to users about your user problems.  and what do you think we users are going to do about your issues?
[14:29] <Slart> odisa: sorry.. it's gnome-terminal -x   or   gnome-terminal -e
[14:29] <odisa> Slart: thanks, I'll have a look. what do -x and -e do?
[14:29] <nikolam> Disabling ppa is even not that bad, putting comment that disabling viewing their names is a bit of a problem
[14:29] <Slart> odisa: run the command in the terminal
[14:29] <ugx578> Flolila: maybe try sudo apt-get install python-gtk2 ?
[14:29] <cfhowlett> nikolam so file a bug.  NOTHING we can do about it.
[14:29] <redcross> ty
[14:30] <Lrrr1> well thats sucks,... tracy morgan died
[14:30] <Lrrr1> i liked that dude
[14:30] <cfhowlett> Lrrr1 sad news but off-topic.
[14:30] <odisa> Slart: gives me "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[14:30] <redcross> that sucks
[14:30] <Lrrr1> oh i was talking about ubuntu
[14:30] <nikolam> cfhowlett, in free software distributions, there is no "users" and "devs" everyone can contribute. With it's thoughts, with actioins and with code
[14:30] <odisa> "Failed to execute child process "temp" (No such file or directory)"
[14:30] <faudzan> haii
[14:30] <Flolila> ugx578 it says i already have the latest version installed
[14:30] <Slart> odisa: does your command work if you just run it in a terminal? or that was what you did?
[14:31] <odisa> that's what I did
[14:31] <faudzan> im indo
[14:31] <nikolam> cfhowlett, you are wrong.
[14:31] <faudzan> how bout u
[14:31] <Slart> odisa: can you run something like  ....    gnome-terminal -x top
[14:31] <odisa> works fine Slart
[14:32] <cfhowlett> nikolam   dude.  none of us develop this OS.  if you feel so strongly, file an official bug.  either way, your rants are taking up bandwidth that could be used for people with support issues.  a little thought and consideration go a long way.
[14:32] <loa> what it is tool to test drive health in ubuntu 13.10?
[14:32] <zkv> ObrienDave, everything with WiFi works perfect. Thank you very much!
[14:32] <Slart> odisa: hmm.. ok so your command was just a lm-sensors | grep something ?
[14:32] <ObrienDave> zkv, glad to be of assistance :))
[14:32] <trijntje> loa, gnome-disks, you can also search for SMART in the dash
[14:33] <odisa> Slart: well I have an alias "temp" assigned to "sensors | grep "temp""
[14:33] <odisa> but now I'm trying the full command as a shortcut (so gnome-terminal -x sensors | grep "temp") and the terminal just flashes and disappears
[14:33] <Slart> odisa: ok. same error here.. let me think for a minute
[14:33] <nikolam> cfhowlett, well, that is what YOu think. If you do not, there is always someone wdo DO (for its' own part). It is not Windows, you know, where you use only what you must.. Those are not rants, but questions and answers and you can rant off yourself with that windows-like "o we are just users" BS attitude.
[14:34] <odisa> Slart: ok :)
[14:34] <ugx578> Flolila that's wierd I can't really explain that
[14:34] <cfhowlett> nikolam developers are  in a different channel.  I'm done.
[14:34] <loa> trijntje, gnome-disks said that i have 18880 bad sectors... i am happy now.
[14:35] <nikolam> cfhowlett, no you are just f. beginnign to grasp waht free software distributioins done.
[14:35] <nikolam> are
[14:35] <ugx578> Flolila: maybe apt-get install python-gtk2-dev?
[14:35] <Slart> odisa: this seems useful... you might have to run bash in the terminal to run commands like that http://askubuntu.com/questions/232033/start-up-terminal-with-command-then-go-to-bash-shell
[14:35] <ugx578> Flolila: everything is pointing to that
[14:35] <Aaruni> I have a problem in Ubuntu with disk transfers. Whenever I transfer files, disk usage shoots to a very high value, but the whole system is pretty much unusable till the file transfer is complete. ( http://edufor.fosspowered.com/img/image.php?di=I05G ). Is this a bug?
[14:35] <Flolila> will try
[14:36] <Flolila> ugx installing 119mb
[14:36] <trijntje> nikolam, then go and fix it yourself, and stop bothering us with it
[14:36] <Slart> odisa: try this    gnome-terminal -x bash -c "sensors | grep temp; bash"
[14:36] <odisa> Slart: looks useful, I'll see what I can extract from that, thanks
[14:36] <odisa> Slart: so it will run in bash?
[14:37] <trijntje> Aaruni, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[14:37] <Slart> odisa: yes.. it will run gnome-terminal and then run bash in that terminal to run your command
[14:37] <nikolam> trijntje, no problem with you 2 people is that you attack every meaningfull contribution in a form of reports a bout problems . And create negative attitude toward contribution. Why it that, that is your f. problem, not mine.
[14:37] <Aaruni> trijntje: precise 64bit
[14:38] <odisa> Slart: hmm not working
[14:38] <skinux> I need a good backup program which supports backing up to remote drive?
[14:38] <Slart> odisa: you copy/pasted? error messages?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> !backup | skinux
[14:39] <odisa> Slart: I did.. nothing happens when hitting the shortcut
[14:39] <odisa> I'll try manually
[14:39] <Tin_man> i've a 32 gig flash drive, it's empty, i've formated it as ext4, and ntfs, and fat, all operations tried to this device says the disk is full, when using startup disk creator, and trying to erase the data thats not there, get a large error message, nothing will write to it, won't back up data to it.. any clues?
[14:39] <Slart> odisa: but does it work when you run it from another terminal?
[14:39] <Aaruni> Tin_man: is it transcend ?
[14:39] <trijntje> Aaruni, which kernel are you using (uname -a) in a terminal, it could be related to the problem fixed here
[14:39] <ObrienDave> Tin_man, try Unetbootin
[14:39] <trijntje> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1
[14:40] <Aaruni> trijntje: 3.13.0-29-generic
[14:40] <Tin_man> don't know its a sans cruser
[14:40] <odisa> Slart: well this is odd.. all my other shortcuts stopped working
[14:40] <Tin_man> i'll try unetbootin
[14:40] <Tin_man> thanks
[14:40] <Tin_man> i'll check back
[14:40] <odisa> Slart: it works from terminal yes
[14:40] <trijntje> Aaruni, ok, in that case you have the patch described in that link, nevermind
[14:41] <Slart> odisa: perhaps a reboot will make the shortcuts come back?
[14:41] <Slart> odisa: if it works from a terminal it should work from a shortcut, afaik
[14:41] <odisa> Slart: yes I'll try that, brb. thanks
[14:41] <Slart> odisa: you're welcoem
[14:42] <astojo> hello all.  I have a host of F2FS usb sticks that I use for my files, and can't make ubuntu (gnome) address the drives.  is there something I need to do besides installing f2fs-tools?  i see them in the gnome disks utility, but not in nautilus.
[14:43] <odisa> Slart: Rebooted; it works fine now, thanks !
[14:44] <Slart> odisa: great. Happy to help
[14:44] <skinux> Are the help pages editable by community? I think I've noticed a couple of spelling errors.
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> skinux: the official documentations are wiki based, so yes
[14:45] <Pici> !itsawiki
[14:45]  * genii feeds Pici a tasty cookie
[14:46] <loa> how many information is on one "bad sector"?
[14:46] <loa> how i can get this information?
[14:46] <ObrienDave> loa, depends on your HD
[14:46] <ugx578> loa: if it's a bad sector i think the hard drive skips right over it, it decreases the size of the drive
[14:47] <Slart> loa: I think that might depend on the hard drive... wasn't it a new thing with 4k sectors recently? that should give you an idea
[14:47] <loa> ugx578, so i want to know how much real space i have...
[14:47] <loa> i have now 18880 bad sectors.
[14:47] <cfhowlett_> loa  run a terminal:  free
[14:47] <holstein> loa: if you have many, the drive is likely dying.. you should ask the manufacturer,or consult a hardware specific support avenue
[14:47] <ugx578> loa: what it reports is the actual space you have, the hardware is doing the skipping not the os
[14:47] <Slart> loa: I think that disk is dying anyway.. don't count on using it for long
[14:47] <cfhowlett_> loa no not that.  sorry.
[14:48] <holstein> loa: if i saw that list, i wouldnt trust the drive any longer..
[14:48] <ObrienDave> loa, you need to know the size of sectors, how many are good and do the math
[14:48] <compdoc> loa, time for a new drive
[14:48] <cfhowlett_> loa hardware failure is coming for you at the worst time.  plan on it.
[14:48] <loa> i need to finish my work...
[14:48] <loa> and i already have failures today
[14:48] <CalimeroTeknik> well you need to take care of this first
[14:48] <ObrienDave> loa, you NEED to change the drive
[14:48] <Slart> loa: I don't think the hard drive will care about your work.. it's dying..
[14:48] <cfhowlett_> loa go ahead.  your HDD is still going to fail exactly when you don't want it to.
[14:49] <holstein> loa: you wont "finish your work" on that drive..
[14:49] <lamrz> ugx578, hello back, I am asked this upon running 'sudo ecryptfs-recover-private' : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623859/  ..yet when I view folders in nautilus, there are about 21 folders  under .Private (which I dont know why should be asked to be recovered), and besides, my home folder is here: /media/otherhomefolder/home/username/
[14:49] <holstein> loa: *all* drives fail.. so make sure you always have backups
[14:49] <loa> holstein, my work not on my harddirve )
[14:49] <loa> i need working station...
[14:49] <cfhowlett_> loa backup your work to a usb, go to school and head for the computer lab.  not an ubuntu issue we can help with.
[14:49] <holstein> loa: sure.. but, if your work is on your hard drive...
[14:49] <luckybunny> general computing question, more than a ubuntu one.. but is it possible to set up a port forward in a way that a service is accessible on the same port, regardless which (of two or more computers) machine is listening?
[14:49] <lamrz> and when I say 'no' to it, the command closes.
[14:50] <helpy> i am trying to install Alfa AUSWU036NHR usb adapter to ubuntu and i can't seem to be successful with that. can't seem to run ./install.sh
[14:50] <helpy> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7623890/
[14:50] <ugx578> lamrz: ya your going to have to adjust for the actual folder locations and where you want to mount them, there's got to be a recursive way to unlock everything let me look it up
[14:50] <cfhowlett_> loa you drive could crash in the next minute, hour or day.  PLAN on this catastrophe, because it is coming your way.
[14:50] <Aaruni> helpy: try running install as sudo
[14:51] <Slart> luckybunny: you could switch traffic around depending on sender.. that way you could have two web-servers serving content on port 80.. not sure if it's recommended though
[14:51] <helpy> i did Aaruni
[14:52] <cfhowlett_> !backtrack|helpy your OS is not supported here.  sorry
[14:52] <loa> cfhowlett_, ok) but can you please again and explain with bad blocks. i have partition for 700gb and i see that drive have 18880 bad sectors. so i don't really have 700gb? and if system tries to record something to bad sector i will have filure?
[14:53] <loa> sorry for this offtopic, idk where i must ask this.
[14:53] <helpy> ubottu, please read the logs! backtrackx is the name of the HOST not the OS.
[14:53] <helpy> i am on 14.04
[14:53] <loa> on the other hand i want to know how ubuntu will act in this situation.
[14:53] <loa> maybe if i free some space from 700gb situation become normal?
[14:54] <luckybunny> well I'm setting up an IRC bouncer (ZNC) which normally runs on my desktop on one port. I have a couple of users on the LAN. Occasionally, I want to log out of my desktop and switch to Windows, and would like to run the same ZNC server on my laptop when I do that. If I start changing ports around, though, that could get a bit of a lengthy struggle, if I could just copy configs and forget about cha
[14:54] <cfhowlett_> loa here's the technical description; your drive is failing.  it will fail at the worst possible moment.  this is a hardware issue and requires a hardware solution; replacement.  UNTIL you replace it, expect increasingly unstable and weird behavior.
[14:54] <luckybunny> changing ports
[14:54] <lamrz> ugx578, thank you so much!
[14:55] <ugx578> lamrz: you got it to work?
[14:55] <lamrz> ugx578, no, it is at the same point as I reported
[14:55] <luckybunny> I did toy with the idea of putting ZNC on windows, but idk... overlapping downtimes via laptop seems better, as well as it being ubuntu, I know what I'm doing lol
[14:55] <Aaruni> it seems that the installer tries to get root by "su root", and not by"sudo su", so you need to provide your root password, and not your sudo password.
[14:56] <cfhowlett_> !root
[14:56] <Slart> luckybunny: if you don't have to run both at the same time I would just change the forwarding when I want to use the laptop.. that way the external stuff stays the same even though you switch things around on the inside of your network
[14:56] <Vivekananda> is there a way to figure out when a software was updated. my firefox was working fine just a day ago and suddenly started hanging ( screen going a little dark). I also see that it says a plugin 'classic compact'  is not available for firefox 29  but it was working 2 days ago
[14:56] <Aaruni> cfhowlett_: that was for helpy
[14:56] <blizzow1> How does one get an intel 7260 centrino wireless card to become somewhat functional in Trusty?  My dmesg shows  my wireless dropping out all the time.  I tried to copy an updated iwlwifi firmware from wireless.kernel.org into /lib/firmware and that did not help.
[14:57] <Flolila> ugx installed it but getting the same error
[14:57] <Slart> Vivekananda: I think there is a log of updates.. /var/log/apt perhaps?
[14:57] <Flolila> ugx578 installed it but getting the same error
[14:57] <naj> hello i'm new to linux and i need some help
[14:57] <helpy> are they different?
[14:57] <cfhowlett_> !ask|naj
[14:57] <ugx578> Flolila: damn lol i've installed that a million times
[14:57] <lamrz> ugx578, I just tried to recover the path as mentioned in the command, and I'm prompted to give the login password..if, after that, I access to the home folder, then it will probably be solved
[14:57] <Slart> Vivekananda: although firefox extension could be updated by firefox itself
[14:57] <philinux> Slart;~ +1 as long as updates not done via terminal
[14:57] <cfhowlett_> helpy there is no root password.  use sudo.
[14:57] <helpy> i did!
[14:58] <helpy> and what i get is there on the pastebin.
[14:58] <Flolila> ugx578 anything else i can do?
[14:58] <helpy> i really can't seem to figure that out :s
[14:58] <ugx578> Flolila: on a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 it install's and compiles fine lol
[14:58] <Slart> philinux: oh.. apt using terminal doesn't log anything? well well.. you learn stuff every day =)
[14:59] <Vivekananda> Slart: I figured it out and apparently I had removed and reinstalled firefox
[14:59] <Vivekananda> but what happened was I got firefox 29 :( and had removed firefox 26. I was quite happy with 26. Can I get it back somehow
[14:59] <philinux> helpy;~ maybe you need to put sudo in front of your install.sh command
[15:00] <helpy> how is that different from running it with root access philinux?
[15:00] <CalimeroTeknik> don't "maybe with sudo"
[15:00] <naj> i'm using lubuntu and i can connect to ethernet but wen i try to connect to any wireless it says Out Of Range!? and it is not out of range!
[15:00] <Slart> Vivekananda: check packages.ubuntu.com there might be an old package around somewhere. You might be able to use apt as well.. not sure
[15:00] <CalimeroTeknik> firefox doesn't work? try sudo firefox *troll*
[15:01] <odisa> naj: is your wifi adapter working properly?
[15:01] <CalimeroTeknik> (it might actually damn work since firefox runs as a different user and profile…)
[15:01] <philinux> Vivekananda;~ try this https://addons.mozilla.org/vi/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/
[15:01] <ugx578> lamzr: it's too much to explain in IRC https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ECryptfs#Mounting
[15:01] <odisa> naj: this on a laptop?
[15:01] <ugx578> lamzr: skip to "Manual Setup"
[15:01] <CalimeroTeknik> under high IO load, ubuntu 12.04 hangs and takes 10 seconds to reply to a ping, can I solve this?
[15:01] <naj> i think so it sees the wireless connections but i can not connect to them
[15:02] <naj> yes
[15:02] <Aaruni> raub: I got my Lubuntu machine. Here is pastebin : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623934/
[15:02] <CalimeroTeknik> it's like I'm back to windows XP SP1's process scheduler, damn
[15:02] <odisa> naj: Hmm.. did you do updates and upgrades already?
[15:02] <ugx578> lamzr: i realize it's not ubuntu but arch wiki's are usually dead on, and "Manual Setup" apply's directly to your case
[15:02] <trijntje> CalimeroTeknik, whats your kernel version?
[15:03] <CalimeroTeknik> 3.2
[15:03] <philinux> helpy;~ I looked at the pasetbin and it was not prefixed as root.e.g root@Aspire-Trusty:~#
[15:03] <naj> yes i did
[15:03] <odisa> naj: did it work with your prior OS?
[15:03] <naj> yes
[15:03] <trijntje> CalimeroTeknik, in that case I don't know, sorry
[15:04] <CalimeroTeknik> thanks anyway :)
[15:04] <lamrz> ugx578, at this point, I am supposed to enter my login password to the home folder that I seek access to, right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623940/
[15:04] <CalimeroTeknik> I'll be migrating that server to gentoo in a matter of weeks anyway, need up to date software, a stable system, the possibility to create packages
[15:04] <helpy> philinux,  your wish is my command http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7623944/
[15:05] <naj> the guy next to me could connect to the wi fi with his phone and i could not with this!
[15:05] <odisa> hmm not sure naj.. visual inspection of the wireless adapter would rule out that the antenna's became dislodged
[15:05] <ugx578> lamrz: ya the login to the full computer
[15:05] <ugx578> lamrz: user login on the full computer anyway
[15:05] <odisa> naj: would require a screwdriver though :P
[15:06] <philinux> helpy;~ odd that at the end
[15:06] <naj> it sees the wireless networks just i can not connect sais out of range
[15:06] <naj> OOOO
[15:06] <lamrz> ugx578, I have two OS running on the computer, and each has its own login password..which one of these should the password be?
[15:06] <odisa> it says that after attempting?
[15:07] <ugx578> lamrz: make sure your running that utility in the directory of the full computer, whatever that's mounted on
[15:07] <naj> any way thanks
[15:07] <ugx578> lamrz: and you want to type in the password to home directory your trying to recover, not the one that's already decrypted and sitting at /home/
[15:07] <YamakasY> man why is webdav and ldap so difficult
[15:08] <nikolam> One happy thought: After updating to 14.04 from 13.10, I don't need to go and click in network manager to make LAN connection work anymore.
[15:08] <nikolam> that was introduced later in 13.10
[15:08] <ugx578> nikolam: openvpn is broken in 14.04 nm lol
[15:08] <nikolam> so it seems gone in 14.04
[15:08] <lamrz> ugx578, all partitions are mounted, including that of the target OS
[15:08] <xtristan> in dpkg, can someone help me parse the package listing? nodejs=0.10.25~dfsg2-2ubuntu1 [package_name]=[version_number]~???
[15:08] <nikolam> ugx578, uh, is there a bug report about?
[15:09] <ugx578> nikolam: from years ago last time i checked
[15:09] <module000> openvpn isnt broken, it works fine with NM
[15:09] <nikolam> ugx578, uh, sound perfectly reasonable, to have old bugs not fixed.
[15:09] <streulma> hello, when will the 3.14 kernel be released to 14.04 officially? I know it is already in mainline kernel ppa.
[15:10] <ugx578> what was i thinking then.... that was pretty broad but something with openvpn and that gui is broken
[15:10] <streulma> ugx578 same problem
[15:10] <nikolam> oh, module000 , then what were you reffering to ugx578 ?
[15:10] <daftykins> streulma: releases don't tend to jump major kernel versions
[15:10] <module000> ugx578: what portion of the GUI is not working for you?
[15:10] <ugx578> the openvpn plugin for network-manager, i stopped using it because of that bug and learned the openvpn command line lol
[15:11] <streulma> ugx578: you can go to system preferences and then network and add openvpn
[15:11] <lamrz> ugx578, yes, I'm trying with the right home folder password, the cursor keeps blinking like, forever. does it take very long?
[15:11] <ugx578> i guess it's been so long i haven't switched back
[15:11] <Pici> xtristan: [package_name]=[software_version]~[dfsg(if repackaged w/o non-free elements)]-[debian_build_#]ubuntu[ubuntu_build_#]
[15:11] <nikolam> lol ugx578 maybe that's the way to learn more :
[15:11] <ugx578> maybe that bug was in 13.10 lol
[15:11] <module000> ugx578: it works fine, you have to keep in mind the plugin integrates with resolvconf/dnsmasq, which the command line cannot
[15:11] <nikolam> even better if we fix it
[15:12] <streulma> daftykins: what do you mean? Ubuntu 14.04 will never be officially upgraded to 3.14 ??
[15:12] <xtristan> @Pici thanks — the repackaged w/o non-free elements is super helpful.
[15:12] <nikolam> aha... it integrates.
[15:12] <ugx578> module000: ya I always had to modify the vpn configs to handle dns
[15:13] <xtristan> @Pici is there any way that I could programmatically predict that?  i'm writing server automation scripts and want to be able to query a package manager for a specific version
[15:13] <streulma> ugx578: I do it on server side, changing dns
[15:13] <daftykins> streulma: i don't know for sure, sometimes newer kernels in newer releases get backported, such as the LTS enablement stack for 12.04 - you'd have to check info on the site, nobody here is foficial to comment
[15:13] <daftykins> official too
[15:13] <module000> ugx578: everyone messes that part up. you have to send the push stanza for dns from the server side and the  NM will feed that into dnsmasq
[15:14] <Pici> xtristan: everything before the ~ should be the software version, which presumably what you really care about.  After that, you should be able to sort the results to find the most recent package.
[15:14] <module000> it isnt as intuitive as it could be though, some usability contributions would be nice for many uaers
[15:15] <ugx578> module000 i'd like to find a way to lock dns to interface
[15:15] <xtristan> Pici: it's headless, so would just be package=version_number ?
[15:15] <lamrz> ugx578, when I press 'enter' again while the cursor blinks, it gives this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623987/
[15:15] <Pici> xtristan: That looks right to me
[15:16] <xtristan> Pici: Works for me.  I really appreciate your help and hope you have a good day
[15:16] <ugx578> lamrz: tail /var/syslog see if there's some more info, but it looks like it was the wrong password
[15:16] <Pici> xtristan: np :)
[15:16] <luckybunny> I don't expect anyone to know the answer to this but anyway. I have a package on my desktop that makes the terminal a little prettier by adding a better looking command line. Instead of user@host:~$, it has something more like ~>$>
[15:16] <ugx578> lamrz: that or the file's been damaged, then your sol
[15:16] <luckybunny> the question is, what the hell was that package called?
[15:17] <ugx578> lamrz: your running that as root right?
[15:17] <ugx578> lamrz: or sudo?
[15:17] <xtristan> luckybunny: you can use anything to set your shell variable, but perhaps you're thinking of oh-my-zsh?
[15:17] <luckybunny> actually, I should take a screenie
[15:18] <Pici> luckybunny: custom $PROMPT on bash, or zsh, or csh, or ksh, or sh, or fish or...
[15:18] <luckybunny> more like custom appearance of a regular prompt
[15:19] <six86> hello. I Have problems installing ubuntu 14.04 server. I'm getting the same error as shown here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127398/usb-drive-install-of-ubuntu-12-04-server-fails-cant-find-components-from-cd-r
[15:19] <six86> But I am installing from a USB Pendrive
[15:19] <Vivekananda> can someone also help me with unity gnome interface. For all windows when maximized I see the three control buttons  ie close, min, max  but on resizing it to any other size I see only close and no max/min .   Is this expected .  this changed for me a couple of days back but not sure how
[15:19] <ugx578> luckybunny: turn the shell into facebook chat
[15:20] <lamrz> ugx578, yes, I ran 'sudo ecryptfs-recover-private'
[15:20] <luckybunny> http://i.imgur.com/Wmpipmu.png ignore the picture in the back, that's just my desktop background
[15:20] <ugx578> lamrz: if you actually setup the recovery passphrase instead of clicking cancel right after installation like everyone does, you could try that instead of your password, when it asks for login say no
[15:21] <ugx578> lamrz: then it'll ask you for the recovery passphrase lol
[15:21] <luckybunny> but right at the bottom, you'll see how the prompt looks different
[15:22] <ugx578> that's a pretty stylish command prompt lol
[15:22] <mojtaba> Hi, does anybody know how can I print to file from command line?
[15:23] <six86> hello. I Have problems installing ubuntu 14.04 server from a pen drive. I'm getting the same error as shown here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127398/usb-drive-install-of-ubuntu-12-04-server-fails-cant-find-components-from-cd-r
[15:23] <nikolam> mojtaba, maybe just redirect with ">"   , commeand > file
[15:23] <ugx578> six86: try it with a different installer, unetbootin maybe
[15:24] <mojtaba> nikolam: I am looking for something to print in .pdf format.
[15:24] <ugx578> six86: it also looks like it's a bad iso all together, download another copy that isn't that version
[15:24] <luckybunny> so many years ago I installed it, and I've forgotten what it was called
[15:24] <luckybunny> lol
[15:25] <six86> ugx578: in fact it is a preseeded installation iso. But the error is strange. Did something change between 12.04 and 14.04 in respect of preseeding?
[15:25] <terminal__> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-06-10_18_21_38-sdDcVkdN.png
[15:25] <terminal__> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2014-06-10_18_23_19-npaXnxva.png
[15:25] <Aaruni> ok, I've upgraded Lubuntu to kernel 3.13. My ethernet is up, but my wi-fi says "device not ready (firmware missing)"
[15:25] <ObrienDave> Aaruni, which adapter?
[15:25] <terminal__> my GUI ubuntu not on settlement and disappear when enlargement
[15:26] <Aaruni> ObrienDave: RaLink 3290
[15:26] <TuxRescue> anybody with a clue why "apt-cache show" will not list tag information of debtags/packagesearch?
[15:26] <ugx578> six86: i honestly have no idea on that one
[15:26] <ObrienDave> Aaruni, not sure about that one
[15:26] <lamrz> ugx578, when I installed I didnt setup the recovery password, but is it the same as mount password that was just generated here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7623705/
[15:26] <nikolam> see commands from the application you want to print from. or use ghostscript, depending on input format
[15:26] <nikolam> mojtaba,
[15:27] <ugx578> lamrz: oh no lol
[15:27] <mojtaba> nikolam: thanks
[15:27] <ugx578> lamrz: you might have just overwritten your old keys with new ones
[15:27] <nikolam> there are many ways to do that, i usually like to go to alternativeto.net to see apps for linux
[15:27] <lamrz> ugx578, but it did ask me the mount passphrase when I said no to login password
[15:28] <lamrz> ugx578, and it says success now..I'll check!
[15:28] <Aaruni> ObrienDave: the support for that chip has been around since kernel 3.6, do you think Lubuntu is at fault here (ubuntu on the same hardware works), some files which are apt-gettable ?
[15:30] <ugx578> lamrz: i'm really hopping you don't open that to find an empty home directory .. lol
[15:30] <alimejri> hello i have a cumputer lenovo g580 a i have problem with wifi in ubuntu 12.04 i want ask you that fix in this version ?
[15:30] <lamrz> ugx578, it created on a /tmp location exactly the same contents of .Private folder, those 21 folders with long names
[15:32] <helmut_> hi
[15:32] <luckybunny> aha powerline
[15:32] <alimejri> hello i have a computer lenovo g580 a i have problem with wifi in ubuntu 12.04 i want ask you that fix in this version ?
[15:32] <ugx578> lamrz: i would try to log back into that full computer and see if you can pull a command prompt and see your stuff
[15:33] <genii> mojtaba: If you install the cups-pdf package, you can print to that device at the commandline with lp
[15:33] <lamrz> ugx578..sounds a better idea..I'll do it now
[15:33] <ugx578> lamrz: if your not full computer isn't encrypted you should be able to mount it without problems from the full computer's shell, then copy stuff over from the shell
[15:34] <alimejri> hello i have a computer lenovo g580 a i have problem with wifi in ubuntu 12.04 i want ask you that fix in this version ?
[15:34] <ugx578> lamrz: just dump it somewhere in the / directory or something, then when you log back into the not full computer you can mv it into the home directory
[15:35] <alimejri> hello i have a computer lenovo g580 a i have problem with wifi in ubuntu 12.04 i want ask you that fix in this version ?
[15:35] <mojtaba> genii: I installed it now. What do you mean by device?
[15:36] <mojtaba> genii: How should I use this command?
[15:37] <lamrz_> ugx578, because I'd started a process alongside, I have to wait for it to finish, then I'll login to the full system
[15:37] <genii> mojtaba: The manpages for lpoptions and lp give the syntax :) But first, do you see the PDF as a printer when you do:lpstat -p -d    ..?
[15:38] <daftykins> mojtaba: remind me, are you still running debian on a raspberry pi?
[15:38] <mojtaba> genii: Yes I saw that.
[15:39] <mojtaba> daftykins: Hi, It has some problems. (The hardware. :( )
[15:39] <daftykins> mojtaba: so you use ubuntu on something else? :)
[15:39] <mojtaba> daftykins: Yep
[15:39] <daftykins> good stuff
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: are you wanting a command line printer setting up in debian?
[15:40] <genii> mojtaba: Then in the simplest form:  lpr -P PDF filename-to-print-here
[15:40] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Yes
[15:40] <mojtaba> genii: Thanks
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: then you need to ask in #debian
[15:40] <Flolila> how can i update my python version?
[15:40] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: It is ubuntu
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: this is ubuntu support
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: you said it was debian
[15:41] <genii> mojtaba: Also, ActionParsnip is correct in that if you are using something other than Ubuntu, you should enquire in the proper place for whatever you're actually using
[15:41] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: It was sth else (for the pi)
[15:41] <Flolila> Traceback (most recent call last):
[15:41] <Flolila>   File "/usr/bin/bleachbit", line 41, in <module>
[15:41] <Flolila>     import gtk
[15:41] <Flolila> ImportError: No module named gtk
[15:41] <mojtaba> genii: I am using ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> mojtaba: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue    on the pi?
[15:41] <Flolila> :(
[15:42] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: It is not running anymore. (some hardware prolems. )
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Flolila: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue       I'll check for bugs
[15:42] <daftykins> certainly mojtaba has been guilty of asking for debian support in here before, for the Pi. perhaps not today though
[15:42] <mojtaba> ActionParsnip: Thanks, but it is down now. I will run that and return back to you.
[15:43] <Flolila> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[15:44] <Flolila> ~$ python
[15:44] <Flolila> Python 2.6.9 (unknown, Jun  7 2014, 03:20:16)
[15:44] <Flolila> [GCC 4.8.2] on linux3
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> !info pygtk
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> !info pygtk saucy
[15:45] <genii> mojtaba: Oh, and the output from it will be put in: /var/spool/cups-pdf/<your-username>/    ..this can be changed as default by editing the /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf file if needed
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Flolila: http://bleachbit.sourceforge.net/forum/import-gtk-bleachbit-version-072-2    does that help (weird)
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Flolila: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bleachbit/+bug/1014943
[15:46] <miccia> ciao
[15:46] <genii> mojtaba: The second place it usually wants to put the output is in a dir called PDF in your home dir
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> !info  python-gtk2
[15:46] <miccia> !list
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Flolila: install  python-gtk2
[15:47] <mojtaba> genii: let me check that
[15:47] <Flolila> says i already have the newest version
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Flolila: all I can suggest is the link I gave first, otherwise report a bug
[15:48] <mojtaba> genii: There is nothing in the /var... nor pdf directory in my home directory.
[15:48] <loa> what is way to change grub options?
[15:48] <holstein> !grub | loa
[15:48] <loa> i want add this line to boot parameters elevator=cfq
[15:49] <holstein> loa: i edit the config file
[15:49] <ugx578> !ecryptfs
[15:49] <loa> i remember that there is method for doing that without editing menu.lst
[15:49] <ugx578> !ecryptfs | ugx578
[15:49] <loa> some kind of ubuntu way...
[15:49] <ugx578> no ecryptfs : (
[15:49] <holstein> loa: sure.. on a per boot  basis, from the grub boot screen
[15:50] <mojtaba> genii: my bad, the PDF directory is there
[15:50] <Flolila> where does this come from
[15:50] <Flolila> (synaptic:3452): IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/tristan/.config/ibus/bus is not root!
[15:51] <loa> holstein, so it is /etc/default/grub
[15:51] <loa> what command i must run after updating this file?
[15:51] <mojtaba> genii: Thank you very much
[15:52] <holstein> loa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom_Menu_Entries is where i would start
[15:52] <loa> ah update-grub
[15:52] <loa> so smart...
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> loa: add it in /etc/default/grub   with the default boot options: quiet splash
[15:53] <ugx578> loa: i was wondering what it was too lol
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> loa: Ubuntu and Grub do not use menu.lst now
[15:53] <holstein> loa: there is a command "sudo update-grub".. but, i would read more before making an edit, and expecting it to work.. i woulld mess with one kernel entry at a time.. and try and leave a working one able to run.. i would understand how to run the recovery mode
[15:53] <TuxRescue> what can you do when your reputation is not good enough for askubuntu.com?
[15:53] <loa> ActionParsnip, i done this mess so many times, and always successfully forogotten
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> TuxRescue: http://questions.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[15:54] <TuxRescue> ActionParsnip: excuse me?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> loa: thats how you add boot options in Grub2
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> ugx578: its a questions and answers forum
[15:54] <genii> mojtaba: You're welcome
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> TuxRescue: its a questions and answers forum
[15:55] <TuxRescue> ah
[15:56] <lamrz> ugx578, how will I try to access the command line?
[15:56] <ugx578> lamrz: once you get past the login screen you can try ctrl+alt+t
[15:57] <ugx578> lamrz: if that doesn't work you can try to switch to another tty which is ctrl+alt+f1 - f9, the gui is usually f6 or f7, all your going to have is one command prompt though, no gui
[15:58] <lamrz> ugx578, it doesnt work, but when I do ctrl+alt+f1, I get the command prompt
[15:58] <lamrz> ugx578, I meant ctrl+alt+t didnt work
[15:58] <ugx578> lamrz: that's probably all your going to get then, just pretend f1-f9 are your shell tabs now
[15:59] <ugx578> lamrz: it should be a lot easier to copy it out this way though, no decrypting anything
[16:00] <ugx578> lamrz: cd ~ && sudo cp -r * /(not full computer mountpoint)
[16:00] <ugx578> lamrz: df is the list of all the drives and where their mounted
[16:01] <ObrienDave> http://questions.launchpad.net/ubuntu server not found
[16:03] <Sagar> guys: http://pastebin.com/0wfriTW2
[16:03] <Sagar> hello
[16:03] <Sagar> how can i remove all xserver-xorg-input- packages/
[16:04] <Pici> ObrienDave: its https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ , not questions
[16:04] <Sagar> anyone??? http://pastebin.com/GF6BYWvB
[16:04] <ObrienDave> just following ActionParsnip's link ;)
[16:05] <holstein> Sagar: what are you trying to do? why are you removing x?
[16:05] <holstein> Sagar: you can always just not install them..
[16:05] <ugx578> that sounds like a bad idea lol
[16:05] <holstein> !Mini
[16:05] <SchrodingersScat> Sagar: have you read this? seems like the same error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/1035517
[16:06] <holstein> Sagar: i would remove the proprietary graphics driver you installed first.. and any PPA's i would try and purge.. *then* address removing x ..or just fresh install mini or server iso without x
[16:07] <mouadh> hi
[16:07] <mouadh> i wanna start with some sdr
[16:09] <holstein> !info rtl-sdr
[16:09] <holstein> mouadh: id start there ^
[16:10] <jakemp> How do I add my own directory to places on the right of the file menu?
[16:11] <Sagar> SchrodingerScat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/1035517 i saw this but how can i solve the issue? what should i type in shell?
[16:11] <Sagar> holstein: how can i do that?
[16:13] <holstein> Sagar: do what?
[16:13] <iptable> Sagar, try this: apt-get install build-essential linux-headers; apt-cache search nvidia
[16:13] <Sagar> [21:36] <holstein> Sagar: i would remove the proprietary graphics driver you installed first.. and any PPA's i would try and purge.. *then* address removing x ..or just fresh install mini or server iso without x
[16:14] <holstein> Sagar: remove the driver you installed? look in the package manager of your choice for what you installed and remove it
[16:14] <holstein> !info ppa-purge
[16:14] <holstein> Sagar: assuming you have any added.. or, just download  the iso for an operating system that doesnt have or ship x
[16:14] <iptable> Sagar, this will install requirements and display the nvidia drivers available to install. choose one and type in: apt-get install nvidia-331-updates (or whatever you are installing)
[16:14] <Sagar> iptable: http://pastebin.com/AAmQSqcX
[16:15] <Sagar> i want to remove the graphic drivers thought
[16:15] <iptable> Sagar, what is your uname -a?
[16:15] <Sagar> they are creating a bug, i want to remove VNC etc
[16:15] <Sagar> iptable: Linux bhm05 3.2.0-24-virtual #37-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 25 12:51:49 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:15] <holstein> Sagar: remove what you like. use the software manager of your chioce
[16:15] <holstein> choice*
[16:15] <Sagar> also iptable: aptitude: error while loading shared libraries: libept.so.<IP_ADDRESS>.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:16] <lamrz> ugx578, it took me a while :)...can I with a command see the mount point of not full computer?
[16:16] <iptable> Sagar, looks like you are running old kernel for which headers are no longer avialble in repos
[16:16] <iptable> Sagar, apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[16:16] <ugx578> lamrz: if it's currently mounted you can see it with `df`
[16:16] <iptable> Sagar, once your kernel is upgraded to 3.13, THEN install build-essential and linux-headers and THEN the dirver.
[16:16] <iptable> Sagar, note: REBOOT after upgrading kernel
[16:17] <Fyodorovna> iptable, dist-upgrade needed for a kernel upgrade
[16:17] <iptable> Fyodorovna, for aptitude, yes, I believe apt-get will just upgrade the kernel, no? (I may be wrong)
[16:17] <Sagar> iptable: http://pastebin.com/ZJG94yPr
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> !away > shakayumi_afk
[16:18] <ugx578> lamrz: if it's not your going to mount it by hand as whatever it is in /dev/
[16:18] <ugx578> lamrz: *going to have to
[16:18] <iptable> Sagar, apt-get purge nvidia-304; apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:18] <iptable> Fyodorovna, no, you are right apparently ;)
[16:19] <Fyodorovna> iptable, not sure on aptitude dist-upgrade in apt-get
[16:19] <lamrz> ugx578, it is not in the output of df. how can I make it show the filesystem, so that I can find its name and mount it?
[16:19] <iptable> Fyodorovna, no idea, either upgrade or dist upgrade will work ;P Try one, try the other I say
[16:20] <Sagar> iptable: hope u know i want to remove x server / vnc etc i just want to run a normal server
[16:20] <holstein> Sagar: why not just install the server OS?
[16:20] <holstein> !server
[16:20] <iptable> Sagar, uhm, why not install a server distro then, like ubuntu-server?
[16:20] <holstein> Sagar: also, the mini link i gave gives an install that doesnt have x
[16:20] <iptable> Sagar, X is a bit of a spider-web, trying to remove it is NOT simple
[16:21] <Sagar> iptable: ok i will got with it then, just want to remove those stupid errors
[16:21] <iptable> Sagar, don't install a desktop distro and then remove 90% of things to get server. install server instead
[16:21] <holstein> i would consider it much easier to just not install it in the first place than try and remove it.. after having applied a proprietary graphics driver as well
[16:21] <iptable> Sagar, no, reinstall to ubuntu-server. download ISO, reinstall. Don't remove 100s of packages hoping you can convert desktop to server
[16:21] <ugx578> lamrz: apt-get install parted
[16:22] <ugx578> lamrz: sudo parted
[16:22] <lamrz> ugx578, when I type 'sudo mount /dev/sda1' it says 'can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab' ....so I should first install gparted?
[16:22] <Sagar> iptable: i dont have the vps panel to change os
[16:23] <ugx578> lamrz: (parted shell) print devices
[16:23] <holstein> Sagar: what os are you running?
[16:23] <ugx578> lamrz: not gparted, don't need it, no gui, just parted
[16:23] <holstein> Sagar: you may not be using ubuntu then.. if its a VPS supplied versio
[16:23] <Sagar> ubuntu 14.04
[16:23] <iptable> Sagar, ? vps panel?
[16:23] <holstein> version*
[16:23] <ugx578> lamrz: launch it with sudo parted after you install it, then the command to see all the devices and their sizes is print devices
[16:23] <Sagar> to change the os iptable
[16:23] <iptable> Sagar, you broke a desktop distro already trying to make it a server.
[16:23] <lamrz> upx578, oh, I overlooked, thank you :)
[16:24] <ugx578> lamrz: parted has it's own little shell
[16:24] <holstein> Sagar: you should ask the provider of the VPS for support..
[16:24] <iptable> Sagar, holstein++
[16:24] <ugx578> lamrz: that'll give you /dev/names and sizes
[16:24] <lamrz> ugx578, I'll do it now.. I have to disconnect shortly
[16:24] <Sagar> iptable: http://prntscr.com/3rhjlz
[16:25] <iptable> Sagar, that's postfix.  4. return to point 1 if issue still not resolved
[16:28] <lamrz> ugx578, I'd then only need to find the path '/media/notfullmount'...will I find this in the output with commands and devices?
[16:28] <Sagar> lol :v
[16:28] <iptable> Sagar, really, can't fix it for you. I don't klnow what you modified and if you want your changes to remain or be wiped.
[16:28] <holstein> Sagar: you need to ask the maintainer of the OS that is provided.. check your sources and see what they have added.. if you are not using ubuntu, the volunteers here will not be ablt to assist much
[16:28] <Sagar> iptables --version :v
[16:29] <iptable> Sagar, 3.1.9
[16:29] <Sagar> :) :D
[16:29] <ugx578> lamrz: the mountpoint can be whatever you want it too, the idea is your mapping the not full sdX to a folder somewhere, you can stick it wherever you want, /media is kindof the place for mounts
[16:30] <ugx578> lamrz: /media/something, you have to make it first though with mkdir
[16:30] <ugx578> lamrz: otherwise it'll complain and not mount because no folder exists
[16:31] <lamrz> ugx578, i already not which /dev/sdaX the partition is..so I can freely make-up a /media/notfullmount path, is it correct?
[16:31] <lamrz> ugx578, sorry, just saw your following posts :)
[16:31] <ugx578> lamrz: this thing is complicated
[16:32] <iptable> lamrz, example: mkdir /root/some/directory; mount /dev/sdb3 /root/some/directory
[16:32] <lamrz> ugx578, and the /dev/sdaX is the partition of not full home folder, right?
[16:32] <iptable> lamrz, assuming you got sdb3, the above will actually work
[16:32] <lamrz> or /dev/sdbX
[16:32] <lamrz> or /dev/sdb3
[16:33] <Sagar> Worked perfect!
[16:33] <Sagar> Thanks iptable :)
[16:33] <ugx578> lamrz: no that's going to get you all of / the whole drive, your home directory will actually be encrypted and you'll have the same pain in the ass
[16:33] <iptable> lamrz, /dev/sdYX - these are actual partitions. when you mount, a driver reads a filesystems and puts it's contents i na directory for you to access.
[16:33] <Sagar> Server is fine now!
[16:33] <iptable> lamrz, /dev/sda, dev/sdb - your drives. the numbers behind are respective partitions on each drive
[16:33] <ugx578> lamrz: the idea is you'll just copy the crap you want to move to /somewhere and then log back into the computer with free space and move it from /somewhere to /home
[16:33] <iptable> lamrz, /dev/sdb3 - partitino no 3 on drive /dev/sdb (2nd drive)
[16:34] <iptable> Sagar, no problem
[16:34] <Sagar> ^
[16:34] <ugx578> i can't figure out a way to put this into words lol
[16:35] <clamiax> hi
[16:35] <gcbirzan> is there a way to get 3.14 on Unbutu?
[16:35] <Tin_man> i was on earlier having a usb drive problem.  I've been to many forums, and still can't resolve the problem, I've a sandisk cruzer glide 32gig.  everything I run in Ubuntu 14.04 file system start up disk creator, etc says it's full, (its empty), I've reformatted it in several different formats, ext4, ntsf, fat, etc.. everything thanks it's full.  If i try and delete the invisible files in disk creator, get a error message.. If i boot a puppy, like Slacko, o
[16:35] <Tin_man> r Precise, they recognize it, and can read, write etc... any clue as to what i need to resolve this?
[16:35] <gcbirzan> obviously, bar compiling it myself
[16:35] <iptable> gcbirzan, yes, wait a few days
[16:35] <clamiax> I'm trying to output the audio to my HDMI tv. I've already make it works with video by using xrandr but I still had no luck with audio. Surfing the net didn't helped yet. Does anyone have some clue? Thanks!
[16:36] <SchrodingersScat> Tin_man: are you sure it's not dead, jim?
[16:36] <clamiax> FWIW, I'm on Ubuntu Server 14.04.
[16:36] <gcbirzan> Unfortunately, we're trying to see if our own kvm patch broke things in 3.13, or if it's broken in 3.14 as well, so it's kind of urgent. guess I'll compile it myself :P
[16:36] <Tin_man> works fine in puppy linux
[16:36] <iptable> gcbirzan, I believe 3.14 is still in RC. Have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2214103
[16:36] <holstein> gcbirzan: 3.14 what? you can try a PPA..
[16:36] <iptable> 3.14 kernel
[16:36] <lamrz> iptable, ugx578..I know, /dev/sdb (or in my case, /dev/sda) is the whole disk, and /dev/sdbX is any partition on it. supposing my 'not full' folder is /dev/sda1, and the full folder is /dev/sda2, is this command correct: sudo mount -t (ext2/ext3/ext4) /dev/sda1 /media/mynotfullone ?
[16:37] <holstein> there are mainline .deb packages..
[16:37] <Tin_man> only about 2 months old , used very little
[16:37] <iptable> lamrz, mkdir /media/mynotfullone; mount /dev/sda1 /media/mynotfullone
[16:37] <ugx578> lamrz ya that's right, and /media/mynotfullone is actuall going to be / when you loginto the not full computer
[16:37] <Tin_man> i'll just keep trying
[16:38] <gcbirzan> holstein: Sorry, I implied that. :)
[16:38] <gcbirzan> iptable: I'll try that, thanks!
[16:38] <iptable> gcbirzan, you will not know if it breaks the 3.14 that ubuntu releases
[16:38] <iptable> gcbirzan, but go for it
[16:38] <gcbirzan> iptable: We don't really care, we can reinstall machines at will, but want to know this is not a thing with 3.14 too :P
[16:38] <gcbirzan> anyway, thanks, let's see how this goes
[16:38] <lim-ladm> hello, has anyone experience over  the e1000 bug with dropped packages on a intel 82574L Gigabit NIC?
[16:38] <iptable> gcbirzan, if it's broken in 3.13, it's probably broken in 3.14
[16:38] <holstein> gcbirzan: the mainline .debs might be simple for you.. if its just a testing scneario
[16:39] <OerHeks> lim-ladm, that is an old but still current issue with e1000
[16:39] <dj_beirut> hi. i am having a problem installing BT keyboard. when i do: bluez-simple-agent hci0 E0:2A:82:2A:40:D0 it says: Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed: Page Timeout
[16:39] <iptable> clamiax, what graphics card?
[16:39] <lamrz> iptable, you mean the command is correct without -t and (ext2/ext3/ext4) ?
[16:40] <dj_beirut> anyone  can help?
[16:40] <holstein> dj_beirut: has anything used bluetooth in linux on that machine? have you connected the keyboard to supported bt hardware and operating system? to confirm its functioning?
[16:40] <_TeO_> .
[16:40] <dj_beirut> holstein i have connected the keyboard to several other laptops including this one when it was om windows 7 and it was working perfectly.
[16:41] <holstein> dj_beirut: so, you can assume the device is functioning properly.. how about the bluetooth radio on the machine? is it working with *any* bt device in linux?
[16:42] <clamiax> iptable: Intell 3rd Gen
[16:42] <dj_beirut> holstein i have not tested other bt devices because i don't have any others. but the radio is supposed to be working since it was working when windows was installed earlier today
[16:43] <holstein> dj_beirut: no.. thats not something you can assume.. you have 2 devices, that i see, that are not promised to work in linux.. the BT keyboard *and* the BT hardware on the machine.. i would want to make sure to test the BT on the machien as well, and not assume the keyboard supporting linux is the issue
[16:44] <holstein> dj_beirut: the fact that it works in windows, as promised, can only tell you the device is not broken, and likely funcitoning properly..
[16:44] <designbybeck> How do I setup hot corners in 14.04? I thought Ubuntu Tweak had it in there?
[16:44] <dj_beirut> holstein ok.. what do you want me to test.
[16:44] <holstein> dj_beirut: im just saying what i would test.. i would test the BT on the device in linux.. seperate from the keyboard.. you are saying the keyboard doesnt work, and im saying, you dont know that the BT works in general
[16:45] <lamrz> ugx578, the command includes -t and (ext2/ext3/ext4), is that correct?
[16:45] <lim-ladm> OerHeks: but a error or not?
[16:45] <dj_beirut> hostein how can i test if the BT is working?
[16:45] <ugx578> lamrz ya but just one of ext2 or ext3 or ext4 depending on what it is and no ()
[16:45] <holstein> dj_beirut: i would use a device that i know works with bt in linux..
[16:46] <lamrz> ugx578, thank you!
[16:46] <ugx578> lamrz: `mount -t ext3 /dev/sda /mntpoint` if it was ext3
[16:46] <dj_beirut> hostein hcitool scan
[16:46] <dj_beirut> Scanning ...
[16:46] <dj_beirut>         00:07:61:73:E7:50       Logitech diNovo Edge
[16:46] <lamrz> ugx578, I see, ok
[16:46] <holstein> !paste | dj_beirut
[16:47] <dj_beirut> sry about that
[16:47] <holstein> dj_beirut: that doesnt mean that the BT is working, though.. and you were not promised linux support.. so, i would still test
[16:48] <lamrz> ugx578, now I see the not full folder mounted
[16:48] <ugx578> lamrz: great now you can copy crap into there
[16:48] <lamrz> ugx578, with this command:  cd ~ && sudo cp -r * /(not full computer mountpoint) ?
[16:50] <iptable> dj_beirut, to test if your bluetooth is working, connect it to your phone and check if you can make calls
[16:50] <neilbad> hello
[16:50] <ugx578> lamrz: ya that should do it, but that will do your whole directory so you've gotta have space, also you should probably make a folder in notfullmount/(dump) for orginization or it's going to be scattered all over your / when you log into the not full computer
[16:50] <iptable> dj_beirut, to check if your bluetooth on the PC is working, pair with phone and try to send/receive data
[16:50] <neilbad> who knows PHPUnit here?
[16:51] <iptable> dj_beirut, THEN try to use headset BT with computer
[16:51] <holstein> dj_beirut: i agree with iptable .. if you have a BT capable phone, thats likely the easiest
[16:51] <iptable> slash-me goes to eat dinner.
[16:52] <neilbad> who knows PHPUNIT here?
[16:52]  * lemonzai1e 'waves hello to all'
[16:52] <neilbad> ;-)
[16:52] <kalen> neilbad: you'd probably have more success in a php room
[16:52] <lamrz> ugx578, can I avoid it doing the whole directory? considering the possibility that even removing 1GB will free the access to the currently full one.
[16:53] <neilbad> kalen: thanks =)
[16:53] <ugx578> lamrz ya just use cd and ls to navigate around and sudo cp to copy
[16:53] <dj_beirut> holstein hmm.. that is possible. i will try that now. but when i run the hcitool dev i get: hci0    E0:2A:82:2A:40:D0
[16:54] <iptable> dj_beirut, discovered doesn't mean working/compatible. paired also doesn't mean working/compatible.
[16:54] <dj_beirut> holstein And when i run bluez-simple-agent hci0 E0:2A:82:2A:40:D0 i get the error: Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed: Page Timeout
[16:54] <dj_beirut> what does that have anything with the keyboard or the bt smart phone?
[16:54] <lamrz> ugx578, can I not apply the same procedures on the terminal that I'm using now?
[16:54] <iptable> dj_beirut, bluez is known to bug though, tried other GUI tools?
[16:55] <dj_beirut> iptable i don't have gui
[16:55] <iptable> dj_beirut, paid the thing to a phone and see if the thing actually works
[16:55] <dj_beirut> it's a headless box
[16:55] <ugx578> lamrz: ya just do what your doing, pain not to have the gui up
[16:55] <dj_beirut> iptable how do i pair from command line?
[16:56] <iptable> dj_beirut, ok, hold. what ahre the actual devices you a pairing? One is a linux box, and the other?
[16:56] <lamrz> ugx578, I was wondering if I could select a file to be deleted from where I am now on the terminal..this would free up enough space (3GB)
[16:56] <dj_beirut> iptables a bluetooth keyboard. Lenovo Edge
[16:56] <dj_beirut> iptable a bluetooth keyboard. Lenovo Edge
[16:57] <iptable> dj_beirut, pair the keyboard to your phone and see if the BT keyboard actually works.
[16:57] <holstein> dj_beirut: i would test with a live CD, if i didnt want to install the GUI
[16:57] <iptable> dj_beirut, and if it does, THEN pair some headset or something else that is known to work with linux with that headless box, if THAT works, THEN try to pair the keyboard to the box
[16:57] <ugx578> lamrz: ya, rm (file), rm -r (directory) that will go recursive and wipe the entire thing , if it complains with permissions try sudo rm -rf
[16:57] <bjorkintosh> so when i connect any USB storage device to my laptop, the whole thing freezes and must be restarted.
[16:58] <bjorkintosh> whether it's a thumbdrive, a flash drive, an external harddrive or my nano.
[16:58] <bjorkintosh> and it's been happening since i upgraded to 14
[16:58] <iptable> dj_beirut, in other words: 1. test and confirm the keyboard works, 2. test and confirm that BT in the server works, 3. try to pair the 2 together
[16:58] <iptable> slash-me goes to neighbour for some cake. laters
[16:59] <bjorkintosh> is there a reason it would do that?
[16:59] <lamrz> ugx578..I was telling about wiping one file.
[16:59] <lamrz> is it possible?
[16:59] <dj_beirut> iptable i just testet the BT keyboard to the phone and it works fine
[17:01] <lamrz> so I can delete not the whole directory but a single file if I use rm (file) somewhere in the command?
[17:01] <Pupeno> Any ideas how to grep for a string containing symbols? http://serverfault.com/questions/604135/how-do-i-match-a-string-with-symbols-in-a-grep-kind-of-way
[17:03] <Fyodorovna> !rm | lamrz
[17:04] <Brunch> Hello!
[17:05] <Brunch> I'm surprised, there sure is a lot of people here...
[17:05] <lamrz> ugx578, when I'm already got stuck because of the full folder, I dont want to cause further problems. I'm not advanced enough to know the rm command. just wondering if there is no other way to delete just a single file to make the partition breathe again.
[17:05] <lamrz> if there is any other way, I mean
[17:05] <ugx578> lamrz: ya it's just rm (file)
[17:05] <Fyodorovna> lamrz, where is the file?
[17:06] <lamrz> Fyodorovna, the file is in one of the subfolders of the full home folder.
[17:07] <Fyodorovna> lamrz, Boot a live dvd/usb open home and delete.
[17:07] <lamrz> Fyodorovna, I can see its exact path via ls
[17:07] <iptable> bjorkintosh, that would be udev rules freaking out. anything over that, someone else will have to assist in troubleshooting them, or ping me in 16 hours. I'm off
[17:07] <romba> Hey guys I need some help with pulse audio on UBUNTU 14.04 - How can i disable the microphone autogain ?
[17:07] <lamrz> Fyodorovna, we've been using command line with ugx578, because home folder wasnt accessible via GUI, as it had a passphrase.
[17:08] <Fyodorovna> lamrz, Ah, encryption, lol, perfect example why people should not be using it unless really needed.
[17:09] <lamrz> Fyodorovna, thank you.
[17:09] <Fyodorovna> thanks for the info
[17:09] <Slart> romba: that's probably an alsa setting.. I don't think pulseaudio does that kind of stuff
[17:09] <lamrz> will someone help me to proceed from the point I am?
[17:09] <Slart> romba: try running   alsamixer    in a terminal
[17:10] <romba> Slart, :  Ok, if it's ALSA, where should i be looking ?
[17:10] <lamrz> ugt578, understandably you're busy. maybe someone else can help me bring it to the end?
[17:10] <lamrz> ugx578,  understandably you're busy. maybe someone else can help me bring it to the end?
[17:10] <romba> Slart, i've already checked the alsamixer, but there's no option to disable it
[17:11] <Slart> romba: well.. then I don't really know.. if alsa doesn't know how to do it you might be out of luck. Can't you just turn the recording volume down to compensate?
[17:12] <romba> Slart, on the other hand the real issue is when i'm trying to make VoIP calls with viber linux client, where as the microphone volume keeps changing automatically, and viber uses WEBRTC
[17:12] <Slart> romba: Are you sure that it's not the voip client that changes the volume?
[17:12] <lamrz> will someone help me please?
[17:13] <Slart> romba: or it does the same thing when you're just using the microphone for regular sound recording?
[17:13] <romba> Slart,  it could possibly be the client, as i don't see a problem with skype calls or any other app
[17:13] <romba> Slart,  i haven't really tried normal recording applications
[17:13] <skinux> How can I merge Ubuntu's partition with an unallocated partition or Ext4 partition?
[17:14] <ugx578> lamrz: sorry was away if you want to delete a file you literally have to use the rm command
[17:14] <lamrz> ugx578. I never used it.
[17:15] <romba> Slart,  some how the volume level always settle at the top edge of the software amplified level
[17:15] <Slart> romba: I'm looking through the viber documentation at the moment.. haven't really found anything yet
[17:15] <lamrz> ugx578, I know where the file to be deleted is.
[17:16] <Slart> romba: there are no volume settings in viber like there is in skype?
[17:16] <romba> Slart,  i just assumed if we can disable the automatic gain, it will settle at the normal maximum volume level
[17:16] <romba> Slart,  there are just two controls to control input and output volume, nothing about gains or noise cancellations or any
[17:17] <OerHeks> lamrz, what is holding you back ? rm /path/to/file
[17:17] <Slart> romba: what sound card are you using?
[17:17] <lamrz> OerHeks..I didnt know the command, so didnt know it was that simple..
[17:18] <motasem> hi ...i dont know this is what ?
[17:18] <lamrz> OerHeks, and, also, enough things went wrong recently..
[17:19] <Trudko> guys should I put aliases into ~/.bashrc or ~/.bashrc_aliases?
[17:19] <Trudko> does it matter?
[17:19] <TerranceWarrior> Whats a good scanner for detailed sketchart under Linux? (around $130). I'm only finding scanner listings from 2003.
[17:20] <lamrz> ugx578, I deleted it from the folder, must I delete it from trash folder, too, for the OS to have free space again?
[17:21] <holstein> TerranceWarrior: i would just search a web search for art, and images
[17:21] <romba> Slart, it says IDT 92HD87B1/3
[17:22] <e^> can u mass comment on gedit?
[17:22] <TuxRescue> e^: colaborative editing you mean?
[17:22] <Slart> romba: apple?
[17:23] <romba> Slart, no intel
[17:23] <e^> TuxRescue: like selecting a bunch of lines and commenting them all at once
[17:23] <romba> Slart,  this is my personal laptop Dell N5110
[17:23] <genii> Trudko: Compartmentalizing them into their own file is considered best practice.
[17:23] <sjmikem> Why does alt-tab to terminal work very inconsistently for me?
[17:24] <TuxRescue> e^: sounds like a job for sed
[17:24] <e^> TuxRescue: ok thanks
[17:26] <lamrz> ugx578, the problem is solved. thank you very much for your day-long help!
[17:26] <lamrz> OerHeks, thank you very much!
[17:26] <Slart> romba: you're not running anything else at the same time? like skype or google talk?
[17:26] <romba> no, i've skype installed but no google talk
[17:27] <romba> Slart,  i read some posts about google-talk settings alteration to stop the automatic gain, but the files did not exist as i don't have the google talk :)
[17:28] <Slart> romba: hmm.. I can't find anything about viber auto-adjusting recording volume.. there are some stuff about google talk and plenty of stuff about skype fiddling with the volume settings..
[17:28] <romba> Slart,  yea i'm also troubled coz skype works perfectly here
[17:28] <Slart> romba: and nothing about your laptop model doing it either.. not really sure where to look
[17:29] <Slart> romba: and it's not skype running in the background messing things up?
[17:29] <romba> Slart,  anyway to disable the microphone amplification on ALSA
[17:29] <romba> Slart,  100% positive it's not skype in background, i've already checked that one
[17:30] <Slart> romba: yes, it's in the  alsamixer thing.. if your soundcard supports it there is a on/off switch for microphone boost and a volume slider for microphone input
[17:30] <Eeinn> Hello, I have a bit of a stupid question. My fonts looks really really nice on Xubuntu, but my conky background fonts look crappy in comparison. Any place I can start to look to clean it up some?
[17:32] <romba> Slart,  there's no ON/OFF option, but i set the internal mic gain to 0
[17:35] <Slart> romba: here's what it looks like on my computer http://i60.tinypic.com/2zg87b9.png  just for comparison
[17:36] <Guest9509> quiet
[17:36] <Guest9509> oitora kiba achos...awaj de koilam
[17:41] <Lope> I'm running this on a VM: "nc -l > /dev/null" and I'm running this on the host: "dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M count=1 | nc <IP_ADDRESS> 20000". but the command on the host finishes instantly without any response or anything at all.
[17:41] <romba> Slart,  this is how mine look http://tinypic.com/r/qp57wk/8
[17:42] <Slart> romba: what is the "Auto-Mute Mode" ?
[17:42] <heph> do y`all know that the raring mirror for us-west-2.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com is returning 403 errors?
[17:42] <romba> Slart,  i suspect it's a mode which automatically powers down mic, headphone when not in use?
[17:43] <heph> it started yesterday afternoon, i assumed someone would have tried to fix it by now
[17:43] <redondos> hi. this command is still prompting me if i want to replace a configuration file. am i missing something? apt-get -q -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install nginx=1:1.6.0-<IP_ADDRESS>~precise1
[17:43] <Slart> romba: what was the original problem? sound to loud? to quiet?
[17:44] <romba> Slart,  ahh just figured out :D that automatic mode is used to switch the speakers turn off when a headphone is connected lol, i can play both speakers and headphones at once when it's disabled :D
[17:44] <Slart> romba: ahhh.. clever =)
[17:46] <romba> Slart,  well the microphone volume automatically moves up, and lot of attenuation and distortions appear in the received audio
[17:46] <helpy> I am trying to use aircrack and has successfully gotten to the point where i have airdump ivs
[17:46] <helpy> however i cant use aireplay with it
[17:46] <helpy> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7624642/
[17:46] <helpy> can someone please help ?
[17:46] <romba> Slart, it comes back to normal when i lower the mic volume to natural level i.e. no automatic gain
[17:47] <Slart> romba: ah.. I see
[17:48] <Slart> romba: well.. I can't find anything at all about viber auto-adjusting anything.. nor can I find anything about your laptop and auto-adjusting.. I don't really know what to suggest. Perhaps ask in a viber forum/irc-channel? there has to be other linux users out there using the same software
[17:50] <kiko_> join #ubuntu-uds-plenary
[17:50] <Slart> romba: I'm guessing it's either the viber software (or something else running on your system) or alsa.. I don't think pulseaudio is to blame for this
[17:53] <romba> Slart, yeah that seems to good idea, anyway in this config everything works fine problem comes only when the slider goes in to upper half of the amplified section http://tinypic.com/r/2b7k3k/8
[17:54] <heph> How can I get support on the ubuntu mirrors? The us-west-2 ec2 mirror is horked at the moment
[17:54] <heph> returning 403's, guessing someone did an upload but forgot to fix the s3 permissions
[17:54] <heph> so, who manages those?
[17:54] <JustSighDUdes> Curious, how do I know what version a package is? It has those weird 1.0.3-ubuntu5 version numbers. I'm just curious if a vulnerabilitiy has been patched or not.
[17:55] <Pici> heph: you may want to ask in #ubuntu-server as well, those folks usually are up on ec2 status things
[17:56] <heph> Pici: thanks! =)
[17:57] <helpy> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7624642/
[17:57] <helpy> can someone please help ?
[17:59] <e^> helpy: a bit off topic, use --ignore-negative-one
[17:59] <helpy> how to do that?
[18:00] <genii> helpy: You should also be asking in the proper channel for your distribution, and that would be the #backtrack-linux channel
[18:00] <helpy> backtrackx is the hostname genii not the distro
[18:00] <helpy> i am on ubuntu 14.04
[18:00] <genii> helpy: Ah, understood.
[18:01] <trism> JustSighDUdes: if you are curious what the patches are look at the changelog, /usr/share/doc/package-name/changelog.Debian.gz
[18:01] <kirankumar> sir last day , i upgrade my ubuntu new version , after not work properly .
[18:01] <e^> helpy: add --ignore-negative-one to the end of the command.
[18:02] <holstein> kirankumar: try booting the older kernel in the grub list
[18:02] <kirankumar> sir some times my screen display a dots(.)
[18:03] <kirankumar> @holstein : sir how ?
[18:03] <qballer> Hey Guys, I
[18:03] <holstein> kirankumar: in your grub list, you should see the older kernel.. select and boot it..
[18:04] <qballer> I've just installed ubuntu 14.04 on my Dell Vostro 3500 and the wifi isn't really responding. Can anyone help?
[18:04] <kirankumar> @holstein ; it solve my problem sure. sir
[18:05] <pavlos> qballer, go to system settings | device driver and select the broadcom wirelss driver to install
[18:05] <qballer> it says this "(1) Creating object for path '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/32' failed in libnm-glib."
[18:06] <kirankumar> @holstein sir when web browser it also display a dot like as hang i have need restart . this is very serius problem
[18:07] <pavlos> qballer, from a term run lspci and give us the one line that refers to your wireless device
[18:08] <holstein> kirankumar: with the older kernel?
[18:08] <qballer> pavlos: here you go
[18:08] <qballer>  Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[18:08] <kirankumar> ok sir i try
[18:09] <pavlos> qballer, that chipset is supported. Back to my first suggestion, do you see in the device drivers an option to install a broadcom driver?
[18:09] <LHW> connect localhost 6667
[18:10] <qballer> Thats the thing, I'm in system setting. Can't see the device driver
[18:10] <pavlos> qballer, running 14.04 desktop?
[18:11] <qballer>  lsb_release -a
[18:11] <qballer> No LSB modules are available.
[18:11] <qballer> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[18:11] <qballer> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[18:11] <qballer> Release:	14.04
[18:11] <qballer> Codename:	trusty
[18:11] <unopaste> qballer you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:12] <pavlos> qballer, dont paste many lines, if more than a line then you use pastebin and show us the url
[18:12] <qballer> Ok. sorry for the flod
[18:12] <qballer> flood
[18:12] <pavlos> qballer, the bot gets upset :)
[18:13] <qballer> Yes... Don't want to annoy the bot. :\
[18:13] <qballer> So, it's 14.04
[18:13] <pavlos> qballer, booting my laptop to see that screen
[18:13] <qballer> Thanks mate.
[18:15] <lamrz_> ugx578, thank you for your help today, again!
[18:16] <pavlos> qballer, click on Dash, search for device driver. Do you see any results?
[18:17] <qballer> pavlos, nope (I might be coming off as really stupid. )
[18:17] <e^> pavlos: isn't it additional drivers?
[18:17] <qballer> e^:  I have that!
[18:18] <pavlos> qballer, yes, run that
[18:18] <pavlos> qballer, the last tab is Additional drivers and there should be something to select a broadcom driver
[18:19] <pavlos> e^, correct
[18:19] <qballer> Using Broadcom 802.11 Linux sta wireless driver. It is selected.
[18:19] <flux242> hi, what IM software are you using? I want to switch from pidgin. As far as firefox uses gstremer1.0 and pidgin has dependency to the 0.10
[18:19] <pavlos> qballer, so there should be a list of networks on the top right of your screen
[18:23] <romba> Slart, thanks anyways mate ;) i already sent a mail to viber support, let's see their explanation. Tc Bye
[18:26] <qballer> pavlos:  when I choose a network it says this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7624833/
[18:26] <perlsaiyan> why does ubuntu show vsyscall32 and suse show vsyscall32 and vsyscall64 on same host?
[18:27] <ilithium> Evenin' all :)
[18:27] <Glorfindel> hello
[18:27] <qballer> Ola
[18:28] <ilithium> I've a new install of ubuntu server 14.04 and, as root, when I try to su to another user via "su foo -" I get an odd message: "bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Inappropriate ioctl for device
[18:28] <ilithium> bash: no job control in this shell " - Can someone explain what this means in English?
[18:28] <ilithium> Hey Glorfindel, qballer - how're you guys?
[18:28] <qballer> Bad--- Wifi will not work
[18:29] <qballer> Besides that all good.
[18:29] <pavlos> qballer, try those 2 commands in http://hich-em.org/2014/05/10/problem-in-my-3g-modem-connection-activation-failed-in-14-04/
[18:29] <ilithium> Argh - wifi#fail = really irritating
[18:29] <Glorfindel> Doing good ilithium :)
[18:29] <ilithium> Good to hear Glorfindel :)
[18:31] <qballer> pavlos: modemmanger is latest and he can't find sudo apt-get install usb_modeswitch
[18:32] <qballer> Hmm... I used to have ubuntu 12.04 on this very computer ... something changed. This is a scratch install.
[18:33] <holstein> !info usb_modeswitch
[18:34] <qballer> This is a laptop, so shouldn't this be unrelated to the USB? as the Wifi card  is internal.
[18:34] <pavlos> qballer,searching for a solution...
[18:34] <qballer> Thanks pavlos
[18:35] <e^> qballer: give "sudo service networkmanager restart" a try who knows
[18:36] <qballer> it might kick me off here ... If so I will be back :D
[18:37] <winb> .
[18:37] <qballer> networkmanager: unrecognized service
[18:37] <qballer> I did sudo service networking restart  and it failed to stop
[18:42] <pavlos> qballer, it is network-manager (dash in between)
[18:42] <pavlos> qballer, sudo service network-manager status
[18:42] <qballer> network-manager start/running, process 883
[18:43] <qballer> didn't help
[18:43] <qballer> the restart, e^ (I added a dash)
[18:44] <e^> ok
[18:45] <qballer> does it help the this path "/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/2" doesn't exist?
[18:46] <pavlos> qballer, have you done a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade so we have a sync system?
[18:46] <qballer> Will do...
[18:47] <qballer> This connecton is wired from my cell phone so.. it will take time
[18:52] <e^> qballer: try to go to edit connections, select connection, edit, wifi security, enter the password and click save, then reconnect
[18:53] <hessu> Hello
[18:53] <asdofindia> hello hessu
[18:53] <hessu> Any tips how to install amd drivers on laptop that has two gpus?
[18:54] <samthewildone> for the past couple of days I've been getting freezings and crashing of alot of programs with ubuntu.
[18:54] <samthewildone> wondering is this is a bad install..
[18:54] <holstein> samthewildone: or a failing piece of hardware..
[18:55] <hessu> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250]
[18:55] <hessu> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5650/5750 / 6530M/6550M]
[18:55] <hessu> these are the gpus that I have
[18:55] <holstein> !ati | hessu
[18:55] <samthewildone> holstein, non of this was happening when windows 7 was installed ...
[18:55] <holstein> samthewildone: ok..
[18:56] <holstein> samthewildone: i usually test with live CD's to remove the current os from the equation.. ill use the guest account or another user to test user configs.. i'll look for and apply upgrades.. i'll start applications from the terminal and ask about errors there
[18:58] <qballer> So what do you guys use to code C++ in Linux land ? Did some C a couple of years ago. Hailing from years of windows Vim isn't the thing for me.
[18:58] <qballer> (Even though people who use vim/emacs look like they work really fast)
[18:58] <robynata> 8-)
[18:59] <mexi_d3> qballer: There are IDE. For example jetbrains or eclipse.
[18:59] <mexi_d3> qballer: Pretty much the same tools on windows: most of them are crossplatform.
[19:00] <robynata> :-D
[19:00] <flux242> qballer: sublime tex
[19:00] <flux242> t
[19:00] <qballer> On windows Visual Studio is the best. I was thinking on doing things the Linux way... Like shell toolchain. From what I read, I need to break free from windows way of thinking.
[19:00] <mexi_d3> shell toolchain works fine on windows too :-)
[19:01] <qballer> True.
[19:01] <flux242> for small project I use sublime. It's fast and does well project management
[19:01] <mexi_d3> qballer: I've been killing processes in windows using shell for a while
[19:01] <flux242> eclipse is too heavy and takes ages to start
[19:01] <nowthatsamatt> If one apt repository fails how can I make it use a secondary choice?  Like when http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ fails, I would like to use http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/.
[19:02] <qballer> pavlos: I'm all synced ;) just for you!
[19:02] <mexi_d3> eclipse has similar features to Visual studio
[19:02] <mexi_d3> they start up in about the same time :-)
[19:02] <flux242> sublime text has vim mode too!
[19:02] <qballer> I will rephrase my question - What do you use.
[19:02] <mexi_d3> qballer: emacs and pycharm
[19:03] <mexi_d3> qballer: pycharm doesn't work for c++
[19:03] <flux242> sublime, eclipse
[19:03] <mexi_d3> qballer: Sublime is very similar to notepad++
[19:03] <qballer> Sounds like a python thing... :D
[19:03] <hessu> omg network dropped the connection
[19:03] <qballer> still no go.
[19:03] <mexi_d3> eclipse is a full c++ ide though
[19:04] <mexi_d3> I presume you need an integrated debugger, and code completion, etc?
[19:04] <qballer> Damn wifi used to work on last time I used. Ubuntu, problem is in *nix enviorments I don't know where to start. For to long I've been in the microsoft golden cage.
[19:04] <kalen> I really like jetbrains products, PhpStorm is awesome
[19:04] <mexi_d3> jetbrains resharper is amazing for c#
[19:05] <gru> im trying to find some scanner drivers for a canon mx472
[19:05] <holstein> qballer: you can always try hardware that supports linux.. a system76 laptop for example has the guranteed support as the microsoft model you  mention
[19:06] <penncil> my upgrade to 12 stopped and says do you want to keepmodified config file grub?   What s taht meant?
[19:06] <holstein> penncil: to 12?
[19:06] <e^> qballer: did you get my last msg about the edit connections? did it work?
[19:06] <penncil> 12.04
[19:06] <e^> (i got d/c)
[19:06] <gru> it means do you want to keep the grub config file... sounds plain to me
[19:07] <holstein> penncil: you are upgrading to 12.04? from what?
[19:07] <penncil> why would the file be modified?
[19:07] <qballer> just saw this e^
[19:07] <qballer> Give me a sec
[19:07] <holstein> penncil: oh.. i agree.. keep the default grub
[19:07] <holstein> penncil: the installed version..
[19:08] <holstein> penncil: the file would be modified becuase you are upgrading, and modifying *many* files
[19:08] <penncil> ty
[19:08]  * AK-47 said We 0x71 (xc) Our giving out free username at http://0x71.org , try you'r luck
[19:09] <qballer> Ok so we are back issue number one. I can connect now e^ but When I do there is no ping. I can't reach my router or anything. no DNS
[19:09] <qballer> I'm Guessing the WPA/WPA2 mixed mode isn't good.
[19:09] <qballer> Maybe I need to change stuff in the router.
[19:09] <mexi_d3> qballer: Sounds right
[19:09] <holstein> qballer: sounds like you actually cant connect.. i would try an access point without any encryption, buti have many laying around to test with
[19:10] <qballer> Recommend anything ?
[19:11] <abbiya> hi i was trying to install lubuntu along with my windows
[19:11] <holstein>  !dualboot | abbiya
[19:12] <jvarcaba> Hey, which is the fastest way to get streaming url ?
[19:12] <holstein> jvarcaba: streaming what?
[19:12] <jvarcaba> holstein, Video
[19:12] <holstein> jvarcaba: what are you asking, friend? trying to stream what from where?
[19:13] <abbiya> i have used the unetboot and pendrivelinux to create my bootable usb but the installation process is not proceeding after choosing the option "install now" and it always goes back to the boot screen again
[19:14] <jvarcaba> holstein, Im streaming local tv from http://www.ltv.lv/lv/tieshraide/ltv1-test/live.360/ , but I want to get the actual stream url to play it with vlc for example.
[19:14] <holstein> !md5 | abbiya
[19:14] <holstein> abbiya: you can try dd copy the iso to the stick..
[19:14] <holstein> abbiya: you should consider another stick as well... if you used the same one
[19:15] <abbiya> the iso hash is correct
[19:15] <holstein> jvarcaba: input it into vlc, but, if they (the creators) dont support vlc, it may not work
[19:15] <holstein> abbiya: ok, so that leaves the stick, if you have not tested it
[19:15] <jvarcaba> holstein, exactly , I want to get the actual stream url from the webpage.
[19:16] <holstein> jvarcaba: ok
[19:16] <holstein> jvarcaba: askthem for it
[19:16] <holstein> jvarcaba: they may not intend/want you to have it, or provide the content that way
[19:16] <pavlos> abbiya, so you are able to run the live CD, it messes up when you try to install, right?
[19:17] <jvarcaba> holstein, Yes, but isnt there a way to get the actual stream url ?
[19:17] <holstein> jvarcaba: sure.. if they let you have it, or provide the content like that
[19:17] <abbiya> pavlos, yes
[19:18] <abbiya> the live works fine
[19:18] <abbiya> when i try to install it always goes back to boot screen
[19:20] <pavlos> abbiya, never had this issue .. is there something peculiar about your hardware?
[19:20] <abbiya> no
[19:21] <Lope> is there a decent little benchmark program that can read all the files in a dir and copy them to dev null or something and tell me the overall speed?
[19:21] <qballer> Any ideas guys?
[19:21] <abbiya> intel core i3, with hd graphics and 2gb ddr3 ram
[19:21] <holstein> qballer: for hardware support for hardware that is not supporting linux? wifi hardware? have you tried without encyption? have you tried with the windows driver in ndiswrapper?
[19:22] <Solaris> hi
[19:22] <qballer> It worked really couple of months ago. This hardware is supported. I tried with no encryption. I doesn't work.
[19:23] <OerHeks> Lope, i use this tool to benchmark ssd/hdd  >> sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
[19:23] <qballer> Any way to flush the wifi driver and reinstall it.
[19:23] <qballer> what is ndiswrapper?
[19:23] <Solaris> OerHeks -> HoerSeks kadumm tss
[19:24] <Solaris> leuk he
[19:25] <holstein> qballer: the hardware is actually not.. unless they say they support linux
[19:25] <leire> hi
[19:26] <holstein> qballer: you could have failing hardware, or, as advertised, hardware that is not supporting linux well
[19:26] <holstein> qballer: you say 12.04 worked? you can try a 12.04 live CD and see if the hardare is functioning
[19:26] <qballer> holstein: OK.. I think pavlos said this chipset is support dell-vostro 3500 and it isn't failing because 10 minutes ago (more like 2 hours) I had windows which worked fine.
[19:26] <lesshaste> how do you take a screenshot of a web page when in firefox you have to scroll down to see it all?
[19:26] <holstein> qballer: unless dell says "we support linux", its not
[19:27] <pavlos> qballer, the STA driver may not be for this chip
[19:27] <holstein> qballer: you may find you can make it work.. but its up to the manufacture to officially support an operating system
[19:27] <qballer> Also I run Ubuntu 12.04 4 months ago on this same laptop and it work right off the back.
[19:27] <holstein> qballer: if its broadcom, there are other driver options
[19:27] <qballer> holstein:  I agree with you. Just sharing history.
[19:27] <holstein> !broadcaom | qballer
[19:27] <holstein> !broadcom | qballer
[19:27] <holstein> qballer: what do i do? i try the driver options, then i pull the chip and put on in that works with linux
[19:28] <qballer> pavlos: you said something?
[19:28] <holstein> qballer: pavlos said that driver may not work with your chip
[19:28] <pavlos> qballer, YES, THE sta DRIVER MAY NOT WORK
[19:28] <pavlos> SORYR for the caps
[19:28] <qballer> Hi pavlos
[19:28] <holstein> qballer: thats when i suggested the other driver, and linked where to read about it
[19:28] <qballer> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201004-5574/
[19:28] <holstein> qballer: unless dell, or broadcom says it, its not supported
[19:28] <OerHeks> lesshaste, multiple screenshots, or ScreenGrab "A great Firefox extension for taking screenshots ... will take screenshots of entire web pages — even the parts that run off the screen."
[19:29] <holstein> qballer: ubuntu cant and doesnt gurantee support for that device
[19:29] <lesshaste> OerHeks, I'll take a look at screengrab thanks
[19:29] <qballer> ~scratch my head~ umm... So what does Cerifies mean?
[19:29] <holstein> qballer: just that, friend
[19:29] <holstein> qballer: its not "this vendor agrees to provide you with linux support"
[19:30] <qballer> True.
[19:30] <holstein> qballer: that statement would come from the vendor.. "certified" means, community members have tested, and at that time, and that revision of chipsets, that hardware worked
[19:30] <qballer> But I don't get this. It used to work 2 hours ago on windows. It used to work 3-4 months ago older linux. what changed?
[19:30] <qballer> I see.
[19:31] <pavlos> qballer, can you give me the line of   lspci -nn for the wireless ( want to see the hex part
[19:31] <xormor> minun pitää asentaa kaverilleni Ubuntu. käytänkö standardi-Ubuntua, Long Term Supportia, uusinta? mikä työpöytä, kun hän on käyttänyt vain Windowseja. hän ei ole "nörtti" eli tietokonetietäjä, vaikka minä olen. on tärkeätä ettei hänen tarvitse käyttää komentoriviä työpöytä on selkeä ja helppo.
 *ja että työpöytä selkeä ja helppo on
 hän on juoppo eikä välttämättä osaa käsin asentaa mitään.
 minun pitänee asentaa kaikki ohjelmat mitä ei jo ole koneella itse, ja päivityksen pitää olla automaattinen. arvelen että voisi olla paras tehdä hänelle järjestelmä jossa ei ole salasanoja.
 päivityksien pitää olla täysin automatisoituja, ja olisi hyvä että päivitykset tulisivat päivittäin tai viikottain, esim. viikonloppuna. Ubuntua osaan käyttää.
[19:31] <holstein> qballer: windows support is irrelevant. all you can determine from that is that its functional.. dell promised you windows support
[19:31] <holstein> !paste | xormor
[19:31] <qballer> Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter [14e4:4727] (rev 01)
[19:31] <holstein> qballer: have you read the broadcom link? and tried de driver options?
[19:32] <qballer> That's what I was trying to say, it's not a hardware failure.
[19:32] <qballer> Doing it now :)
[19:32] <holstein> qballer: my bcm4314 bgn i pulled out, and replaced
[19:32] <pavlos> qballer, read the first answer in ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2197323
[19:32] <genii> holstein: Here too, it was too many headaches
[19:32] <holstein> qballer: i dont remember if its the same revision or not, but ii wasnt promised linux support, so i tried the options,a nd pulled it
[19:33] <holstein> genii: i was hopeful for the open option :/
[19:34] <tomxthexprox> hello
[19:35] <qballer> Restart... will be back
[19:35] <tomxthexprox> k
[19:37] <xormor> I need to install Ubuntu to my drunkard friend. It needs to be easy and Windows-like. he is not an expert on computers and operating systems. how do I make all maintenance and administration automatic on it? I need to have it without passwords.
[19:40] <qballer> Pavlos...  In windows when i do ipconfig I get ip bla bla bla. What about when I do ifconfig where is the default gateway
[19:42] <OerHeks> tomxthexprox, good luck with that, if your system gets wrecked, reinstall
[19:42] <holstein> qballer: should be labeled
[19:42] <daftykins> qballer: it's separate, run "route -n" or "ip route"
[19:44] <qballer> Cool
[19:44] <streulma> what are good notebooks for Ubuntu? HP or Asus, or Acer?
[19:45] <streulma> Has Ubuntu problems with the ATI cards?
[19:45] <qballer> system76
[19:45] <tomxthexprox> go asus
[19:45] <qballer> :D Just learned that today!
[19:45] <OerHeks> streulma, there is no best, but hp got the best keyboard is my opinion
[19:45] <tomxthexprox> i had hp, it was bad
[19:45] <qballer> so what do you guys think about the edX course of linux ?
[19:45] <kablys> system76 is crazy
[19:46] <daftykins> streulma: all Linux have issues with AMD graphics cards, their drivers are quite dire
[19:46] <qballer> How come?
[19:46] <crhrabal> rhcsa or linux+ ?
[19:46] <OerHeks> this channel is not for polling laptops actually
[19:46] <kablys> new hp 450 G1 problem with wireless
[19:46] <OerHeks> crhrabal, was that a question?
[19:46] <streulma> I had problems with Ubuntu on HP
[19:47] <streulma> video drivers with NVidia I think, was 11.04 in the past
[19:47] <pavlos> dell E6400 seems to work fine
[19:47] <streulma> but ATI is hell, also on Mac Mini with Ubuntu
[19:47] <tomxthexprox> im using a lenovo e430
[19:47] <streulma> Dell is good for Ubuntu
[19:48] <crhrabal> I asked a question, but I guess it's not the best place for that sort of question. My apologies
[19:48] <streulma> but I buyed Acer
[19:48] <holstein> crhrabal: you mean, rhcsa or linux+ ? whats the question?
[19:48] <streulma> Intel graphics and all the rest is compatible :)
[19:48] <OerHeks> streulma, so you had 1 issue on 1 laptop, and now trashing hp ?
[19:48] <streulma> crhrabal: what problem?
[19:48] <holstein> streulma: "good" is a matter of opinion and use case.. if the vendor supports linux, they will state they do
[19:49] <tomxthexprox> i had 3 hp laptops, all were trash
[19:49] <streulma> the HP which I want to buyed before have ATI, the bad card
[19:49] <holstein> streulma: not "bad".. unsupported
[19:50] <crhrabal> Was asking which cert people thought was most useful to have
[19:50] <holstein> streulma: please enjoy the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat.. or a hardware channel
[19:50] <crhrabal> But again probably not the best place to ask
[19:51] <pavlos> crhrabal, there is a redhat channel, ask there
[19:52] <jch2os> anyone get clvm working on ubuntu 14.04?
[19:52] <BrianH> Anyone have any recommendations for displaying steps on screen in a video tutorial?  Using 14.04 LTS.
[19:53] <holstein> BrianH: post production.. any video editor.. openshot work for you? kdenlive..
[19:53] <BrianH> holstein: Looking for something that I can click through during production.
[19:56] <BrianH> I supose I could give kdenlive a shot, just wanted to minimize any post production editing.
[19:56] <jch2os> clvm installs fine but can't get it working
[19:57] <holstein> BrianH: you can load anything on the screen there
[19:57] <holstein> BrianH: you can open a text editor.. or, something like kupfer or synapse
[20:02] <flodine> hello ubuntu folks.
[20:05] <Vivekananda> hello .on ubuntu 12.04 I have python installed but I get this error : /usr/bin/python does not match the python default version. It must be reset to point to python2.7  .  I see that the link  'python'  points to  /etc/alternatives/python  which in turn point back to /usr/bin/python2.7.     this python2.7 however does not point anywhere
[20:07] <tokamak999> Hello. Im trying to install 14.04 on my netbook. I have an USB stick with the 14.04 as livesystem and an extern 1TB 2,5" usb hdd. However, ubuntu cant find the extern HDD. What can i do? The HDD was already formatted to FAT32
[20:07] <holstein> tokamak999: why?
[20:07] <holstein> tokamak999: you wouldnt be installing to the fat partition.. what are you trying to do?
[20:08] <tokamak999> holstein: Im trying to install ubuntu from the live stick to the external hdd drive. However, i can not find my HDD. Not in Gparted, not in the console, no where. If i use another laptop with Windows, it shows up fine
[20:08] <holstein> tokamak999: ok
[20:09] <holstein> tokamak999: i would try other ports.. replugging.. i would try in a terminal "sudo fdisk -l" and see if i see it
[20:09] <eN_Joy> by default ufw logs to dmesg, ufw.log, syslog, how do i let it only logs to ufw.log?
[20:09] <holstein> tokamak999: if the installer doesnt see it, then you wont be able to install to it, but linux/ubuntu isnt specifically preventing the external drive from showing up
[20:10] <tokamak999> holstein: If i do sudo fdisk -l, only my usb live stick shows up
[20:10] <holstein> tokamak999: ok.. so work with it til it shows up.. try other ports.. remove usb hubs, etc..
[20:11] <tokamak999> holstein: tried all 3 ports, nothing happens. they work for sure
[20:12] <tokamak999> holstein: my external HDD has an LED. if i plug it into my laptop, it blinks. when i use the ubuntu laptop, it wont even do that
[20:13] <jackarius86> tokamak999: try the command blkid and see what device your usb shows up on
[20:17] <tokamak999> jackarius86: /dev/loop0 type=squashfs and /dev/sda1: label=UUI= uuid=... type=vfat
[20:17] <keevitaja> hi, i have few questions. how can i stop vlc for opening videos in maximized window state?
[20:18] <AnonLucifer> why is my ubuntu 12.04 LTS showing "unknown" at "graphics"
[20:18] <AnonLucifer> i have an Intel HD graphic card
[20:18] <keevitaja> and also where can i find hexchat servers list file?
[20:19] <skfax> How difficult/possible/clever is it to downgrade the tar utility from 1.27.1 to 1.26.X in Ubuntu 14.04?
[20:20] <Bashing-om> AnonLucifer: "Graphics: Unknown" is a false report and a known bug. ->Install the package mesa-utils and the graphics card/driver will be shown.https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa-demos/+bug/914631
[20:20] <meek_geek> guys how to optimize aptitude
[20:21] <meek_geek> how to delete all the unnecessary apps with Aptitude ?
[20:21] <streulma> meek_geek sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:21] <OerHeks> meek_geek, aptitude does not know unnecessary apps
[20:22] <meek_geek> OerHeks, is aptitude outdated ?