[12:22] <knob> zack_s_, for the future... I know ftp is super easy... yet try and use sftp or others.   ftp is very insecure.
[12:23] <codephobic> hi
[12:23] <Sorch> hi
[12:25] <codephobic> I'm trying to manually install (not using the webupd8 repo) Oracle's JDK (8u45), but I need to know the proper location within which to extract and install it.
[12:25] <codephobic> I'm using Ubuntu 15.04 btw.
[12:25] <codephobic> anyone help?
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> codephobic  what's wrong with the version from the repos?
[12:27] <codephobic> MonkeyDust, nothing as far as I'm aware, I'd just like to do it this way and learn a little about ubuntu in the process.
[12:28] <codephobic> I haven't really made sense of why certain programmes and utilities are placed where they are, within ubuntu's FS.
[12:28] <codephobic> for instance, some apps are in /usr/bin, some in /bin/, some in my local/bin ... it is quite bewildering and annoys me and I want to understand.
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> codephobic  most soit in /usr/bin/ ... type whereis [program] to get an idea
[12:29] <Caroga> hi all!
[12:30] <Caroga> I remember there was a lvm guru in here, who helped me setup my server at home
[12:30] <Caroga> I now need to reinstall the os and I am trying to install the Grub Boot Loader to my raid partition, but it's failing constantly.
[12:30] <codephobic> MonkeyDust, I do that often, but I don't understand the underlying logic of where the apps are distributed and why there are so many (for instance /opt is another one) places to put them.
[12:30] <Caroga> Anyone who could help me debug this ?
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> Caroga: try to ask your issue in channel, so others can read
[12:31] <Caroga> I now need to reinstall the os and I am trying to install the Grub Boot Loader to my raid partition, but it's failing constantly.
[12:31] <Caroga> lotuspsychje ^
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | Caroga
[12:32] <Caroga> lotuspsychje thanks but not really what I am looking for.
[12:33] <Caroga> I understand LVM, I just do not understand why GRUB seems to fail at installing on it.
[12:33] <Caroga> why it's failing: doesn't seem to find the mapper somehow
[12:33]  * turma_pnb deu uma voadera em todos
[12:34] <stiv2k> hello what can i do to determine what is inhibiting suspend on my system? Apparently the suspend is inhibited when the monitor is turned off (idle) i think
[12:34] <stiv2k> and it should not be
[12:43] <simpleuser> Hello there. Is there an ubuntu version without X?
[12:43] <mmc> i have a big problem with gnome-shell process
[12:44] <simpleuser> It's just to test a new things in a virtual machine and I'd like the system to be an ubuntu. I know I could use a debian, but I'd like an ubuntu based distro
[12:44] <simpleuser> a few things*
[12:44] <mmc> gnome-shell process uses 150% Cpu
[12:44] <avis> can you compile ubuntu from source including the kernel ?
[12:44] <MichaelTiebesl> mmc:more then 150%?
[12:44] <Pici> simpleuser: the ubuntu server image has no X.
[12:45] <stiv2k> hello what can i do to determine what is inhibiting suspend on my system? Apparently the suspend is inhibited when the monitor is turned off (idle) i think, and it should not be
[12:45] <mmc> MichaelTiebesl : i can not understand you mean
[12:46] <avis> is ubuntu good enough for military uses ?
[12:46] <manornk> hi, my ubuntu vps suddenly started pointing to default landing page, on every website, can someone please help me.. even on preview website it's the same
[12:46] <mmc> MichaelTiebesl : my laptop has AMD cpu
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> avis: its safer for sure
[12:47] <stiv2k> avis: i cant even get it to suspend when its idle....
[12:47] <simpleuser> Thanks Pici !
[12:47] <stiv2k> avis: i tried linux when i was 16, had to ditch it because suspend wasnt working right.... i try it again 10 years later, with new linux distro and new hardware... what do i see? same problems from a decade ago
[12:47] <stiv2k> kind of silly
[12:48] <stiv2k> why are we STILL struggling with something as basic as making suspend work properly in 2015
[12:48] <avis> stiv2k, shame on them.  shame shame shame on ubuntu.  bring me back lucid lynx with a modern kernel or give me death.
[12:48] <vemacs> have manufacturers opened up their interfaces and drivers yet
[12:48] <vemacs> protip: no
[12:48] <vemacs> for the record, sleep/suspend works on my surface pro
[12:48] <stiv2k> it technically works on my pc if i manually initiate it
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> vemacs: did you use a custom kernel?
[12:49] <stiv2k> but something else blocks it from suspending on its own (gdm... screensaver... something)
[12:49] <compdoc> do you have the same PC from all those years ago?
[12:49] <stiv2k> no
[12:49] <stiv2k> of course not
[12:49] <stiv2k> this is a modern pc, sandybridge
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> guys, stick to ontopic issues please
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[12:49] <stiv2k> i'd say this is pretty on-topic
[12:49] <vemacs> lotuspsychje, nop
[12:50] <vemacs> Surface Pro 1 though
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> vemacs: ok tnx
[12:50] <Pici> Complaining that things don't work isn't on-topic.
[12:50] <stiv2k> Pici: fair
[12:50] <compdoc> we cant talk about things that dont work?
[12:50] <stiv2k> compdoc: lol
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | compdoc
[12:51] <compdoc> seems pretty ontopic to me
[12:51] <stiv2k> its hard to stay composed when you try to get support for 2 days and nobody knows
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: we work with volunteers here, patience is reccomended
[12:53] <stiv2k> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239861 <-- my exact issue
[12:53] <stiv2k> finally i find someone else with the same problem
[12:53] <stiv2k> i'm not alone :)
[12:53] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje: i'd love to volunteer to help make it better... but i already work full time, im not sure how i can help
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: did you try a no_acpi boot?
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: and wich ubuntu version are you on?
[12:54] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje: i dont think it's an acpi problem... suspend technically works... its just that some other program is inhibiting it
[12:54] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje: ubuntu GNOME 14.04.2
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: did you ask in #ubuntu-gnome yet?
[12:55] <stiv2k> yes i did
[12:55] <stiv2k> crickets...
[12:55] <stiv2k> there are only 53 people in there
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: did you try other flavors, ubuntu desktop perhaps to check if it has same suspend issue?
[12:57] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje: i don't want unity though... i want to actually be able to be productive
[12:57] <Kakila> Hi all, everytime I run rsync or scp from a host, it gets added to /etc/hosts.deny in the server. Why?
[12:58] <Click66> hi guys, anyone a good book about security? All the books I've found are from 2008 so I'm afraid they are a bit outdated?
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: its just for testing purposes
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> !security | Click66
[12:59] <Click66> thx
[12:59] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje: okay
[12:59] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje: maybe i can do it in a VM?
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: you can also try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and tail -f /var/log/dmesg to see suspend issues in realtime
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> stiv2k: sure test a few things out
[12:59] <Click66> @lotuspsychje but thats not what I want. I just want a book that explains how everything works. Not how to install some things?
[13:00] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje: i got one of my favorite games running in windows in virtualbox (wouldnt work on wine).... that is a HUGE leap forward in getting away from using windows... this suspend thing is the only quirk left otherwise i would have a perfect system
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> Click66: security is a very wide topic...
[13:01] <manornk> Anyone who can help me for ubuntu server, Plesk, in PM? please, I am desperate
[13:02] <stiv2k> lotuspsychje_: welcome back
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> manornk  tell it in the channel
[13:04] <manornk> MonkeyDust: somehow every website on my vps stared pointing to default landing page, not sure what it is, checked everything on google, the same thing.
[13:05] <manornk> MonkeyDust: even Preview of the website points to landing page
[13:06] <manornk> And I would appreciate it up to the sky if someone could've helped me
[13:06] <Ben64> manornk: sounds like bad apache config, but idk how plesk does stuff
[13:07] <manornk> I know that apache httpd vhosts are fine.
[13:07] <Ben64> they probably aren't
[13:08] <manornk> Ben64, one guys on apache channel checked them and they said it
[13:09] <mmc> any solution to solve problem of gnome-shell process that uses 150% Cpu   ?
[13:11] <lotuspsychje_> mmc: ubuntu version?
[13:11] <mmc> lotuspsychje : ubuntu gnome 14.04.1
[13:12] <lotuspsychje_> mmc: did you have this kind of issue on lighter versions?
[13:13] <mmc> lotuspsychje : no   but my cpu is good to run any program
[13:14] <lotuspsychje_> mmc: wich cpu would that be?
[13:14] <mmc> Amd cpu A8
[13:15] <lotuspsychje_> mmc: i would try ubuntu desktop 14.O4.2 see if you have same cpu usage
[13:17] <lotuspsychje_> mmc: just for the info, what kind of grafix driver+ chipset do you have?
[13:18] <yecril71pl> Nautilus does not allow me to make a link to /etc
[13:19] <zzarr> yecril71pl: tried in terminal?
[13:19] <yecril71pl> Yes, lots of times.  It always works in terminal.
[13:20] <yecril71pl> But I do not know how to do it in Nautilus.
[13:21] <zzarr> can you make the link in terminal or do you get an error message?
[13:21] <yecril71pl> I can make the link in the terminal.
[13:22] <carter1> hi, I have a RAID 10 array that is a logical volume group that I'm trying to remount after a reboot and getting a weird error
[13:22] <carter1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11756751/
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> !raid | carter1
[13:23] <zzarr> sorry, I don't know how to use Nautilus to link
[13:23] <carter1> thanks lotuspsychje but I've been looking at those
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[13:23] <carter1> I think the problem is that my /etc/fstab is set up wrong, but I've been using this for six months without a problem, would you mind looking at the dmesg | tails I posted above?
[13:23] <yecril71pl> Ordinarily, you link with Make link, but that is disabled in /.
[13:25] <k1l_> yecril71pl: you dont have the filepermissions with nautilus to do that in /
[13:25] <yecril71pl> But I do not want the link to end up in /.
[13:25] <k1l_> or in /etc
[13:25] <yecril71pl> I want the link to be placed in my directory.
[13:26] <giacomo> Hi all
[13:26] <carter1> hi gladely
[13:26] <carter1> errr, hi giacomo
[13:32] <Nooby_One> hello, HP pavillion laptop, ubuntu 14.04 ... i want to delete calibre, can i rely on ubuntu software center to delete all and components, or if the best way to do it is in the terminal, can somebody help me with a "step-by-step" how to?
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> !purge | NoobSaibot
[13:34] <yecril71pl> How do I flush DNS cache?
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> Nooby_One: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[13:36] <Nooby_One> @lotuspsychje: do i have to do a remove command followed by the purge one, or just do the purge one?
[13:37] <dougquaid> I added a module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but it still gets automatically loaded after I do rmmod. Do I need to reboot it for that change to take effect?
[13:37] <Nooby_One> and is the package name always the same as the name it shows in the sidebar? in my case "calibre"?
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> Nooby_One: you can apt-cache policy packagename to check
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[13:42] <lotuspsychje> SkyRocknRoll: can we help you?
[13:44] <adrientofu-fr> hello, I have a problem on my Opensmtpd config: http://pastebin.com/0htsRF48 can you help me ?
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[13:48] <suntux> after apt-get upgrade sound become stuttering if am not touching mouse and keyboard. CPU tries go to suspend and sound now playing in any player stuttering. I think it is problem with drivers, but not with kernell, because i have tried reboot with another one. Any advices?
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> suntux: ubuntu version?
[13:49] <suntux> lubuntu 15.04
[13:49] <suntux> Linux s 4.1.0-040100rc8-generic #201506150335 SMP Mon Jun 15 02:37:00 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> suntux: try a fresh install lubuntu 14.04 perhaps to get things more stable
[13:51] <Nooby_One> i think a reboot is necessary ... thanks to all for helping!
[13:51] <Nooby_One> have a nice day!
[13:51] <suntux> i have pasted this bug to bugzilla.kernell.org and to ubuntu bugtracker
[13:52] <suntux> but am not shure where from it comes
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> suntux: upgrades can get tricky sometimes, check your syslog and dmesg to investigate
[13:52] <k1l_> suntux: the official 15.04 kernel is a 3.19 one. so the mainline kernels are for testing only anyway.
[13:52] <suntux> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100281
[13:53] <suntux> k1l_: i have tried some kernells
[13:53] <SkyRocknRoll>
[13:53] <k1l_> suntux: so file a bug against the mainline kernels and tell them what is wrong and what the solution is if known.
[13:55] <asido> why don't I see this module version: http://packages.ubuntu.com/uk/utopic/libdbd-pg-perl on this machine: https://gist.github.com/Asido/9a6098bbb4232feff62e ?
[13:55] <k1l_> asido: you are compartin trusty vs utopic
[13:56] <suntux> I want to find out where this bug comes from. I want you help me find out why this bug appears. Am newbie and don't know yet any tools for that.
[13:56] <k1l_> asido: or to be more precise: that system got trusty repos enabled. so better check sources.list what is going on there
[13:56] <asido> k1l_, my machine says utopic and the website is universe, which is utopic
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> suntux: check your logs mate, it might hold relevant information
[13:56] <k1l_> asido: or start with a "sudo apt update" to make sure to have the latest packages lists
[13:56] <asido> k1l_, I did dist-upgrade though
[13:56] <zack_s_> I connect to ubuntu server via putty from windows, how can I setup real "cls" command in putty?
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> !bug | suntux as k1l_ sugested
[13:57] <zack_s_> so that the scroll buffer and the screen is cleared?
[13:57] <zack_s_> I tryed: alias cls='clear && printf "\033c"'
[13:57] <zack_s_> but it doesnt worked
[13:57] <k1l_> asido: please run a "sudo apt update " and a "cat /ect/apt/sources.list" and put both into a pastebin
[13:57] <zack_s_> any suggestion?
[13:57] <suntux> ubottu: am already do that
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> zack_s_: have you tryed the #ubuntu-server channel?
[13:57] <EriC^^> zack_s_: you cant have an && in an alias i think
[13:58] <carter1> okay, I restarted my computer again, and now 2/3 of my raid drives are gone. i really could use some help if anyone is familiar with mdadm
[13:58] <k1l_> asido: did you "apt-get dist-upgrade" to get from 14.04 to 14.10? that is not how you upgrade a ubuntu.
[13:59] <vedranm> hello, anyone using Asus VT207N touchscreen monitor? I'm looking into buying it, but I can't find a source claiming it works on Linux except a single post on LinuxCNC.org
[13:59] <asido> k1l_, I did exactly that
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> vedranm: recent ubuntu versions should be able to have touch support
[14:00] <k1l_> asido: we have "sudo do-release-upgrade" to get to 14.10. we dont use the old debian way on ubuntu
[14:00] <vedranm> lotuspsychje: for this particular monitor?
[14:00] <vedranm> I'm aware of touch support in general
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> vedranm: what Os comes by default?
[14:00] <k1l_> asido: but please show the output from that  commands to let us get a clue in what state that system is now
[14:01] <lotuspsychje> vedranm: or its just touch monitor without os
[14:01] <Nooby_One> ubuntu 14.04: my trash does not empty: every time i want to "empty trash" i get an error message saying that a time out was reached
[14:01] <asido> k1l_, https://gist.github.com/Asido/120ed2232838148ca4c7 , https://gist.github.com/Asido/f38940f6029e1d1fd5e1
[14:01] <zack_s_> EriC^^: ok, how can I combine cmds then?
[14:01] <asido> k1l_, I am running do-release-upgrade now
[14:01] <EriC^^> zack_s_: make a function, bla(){ cmd1 && cmd2;}
[14:02] <vedranm> lotuspsychje: it's a touch monitor, it can work on any OS
[14:02] <k1l_> asido: yes, that sources.list is all 14.04 but just one repo changed to 14.10. so that is nearly a mess.
[14:02] <vedranm> I'm wondering if there is a list of supported/unsupported touch monitors somewhere, as I was not able to find one
[14:03] <zack_s_> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11756952/ something like this?
[14:03] <Section1> hi guys ...someone running ubuntu oon power8 ?
[14:04] <Section1> as kvm host ?
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> vedranm: maybe the ##hardware guys can find a linux link with your monitor?
[14:05] <EriC^^> zack_s_: yeah, that would work
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> Section1: you can ask specific questions in this channel, so other can try to help
[14:05] <RealPanV> EriC^^,
[14:05] <RealPanV> Check out my post I made
[14:05] <vedranm> lotuspsychje: thx
[14:05] <RealPanV> http://askubuntu.com/questions/639223/problem-with-controller-from-a-local-manufactor-on-15-04
[14:06] <RealPanV> EriC^^, please check
[14:06] <RealPanV> it
[14:06] <Section1> lotuspsychje, ok..im trying to run a vm with ubuntu amd64 under ubuntu ppc64le on power8... but we see that the VM(amd64) see a 512mhz cpu so its very very slow.
[14:06] <RealPanV> http://askubuntu.com/questions/639223/problem-with-controller-from-a-local-manufactor-on-15-04
[14:07] <RealPanV> I can't post on ##hardware
[14:07] <Section1> i try differents cpu configurations in kvm but always shows 512mhz
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> RealPanV: register
[14:08] <RealPanV> How? /register doesn't work
[14:08] <RealPanV> !register
[14:08] <RealPanV> oops
[14:08] <zack_s_> EriC^^: its seems to be called
[14:08] <zack_s_> but I don't get the desired effect
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> Section1: did you try the #kvm guys?
[14:08] <Section1> not yet
[14:08] <EriC^^> zack_s_: did you source the file you put it in?
[14:09] <EriC^^> zack_s_: btw you don't need to use the alias anymore
[14:09] <EriC^^> you can call the function cls and just run cls in the shell
[14:10] <jjack> Hi all
[14:10] <EriC^^> zack_s_: i think you're trying to do what the command "reset" can possibly do
[14:10] <EriC^^> give it a shot
[14:10] <EriC^^> RealPanV: i don't know how i could help you with that
[14:10] <suntux> Is it enough to backup /home if i want to keep installed soft and data, for example, opera and it's cache and bookmarks?
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> RealPanV  ask help on registration in #freenode
[14:11] <suntux> Am going to reinstall ubuntu
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> !backup | suntux
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> suntux  backup /etc/ too
[14:12] <RealPanV> EriC^^, then I don't know what to do. Thanks anyways
[14:12] <EriC^^> calibrate it
[14:12] <EriC^^> how old are you?
[14:13] <RealPanV> EriC^^, Calibration doesnt work since the joystick doesnt give an output axis
[14:13] <RealPanV> BRB I will ask on ##hardware
[14:14] <suntux> hmm i no need to backup /home at all there are /Documents and /Downloads that i not use at all.
[14:14] <dougquaid> how can I prevent a module from being loaded? I put it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but it still loads after I removed it with rmmod
[14:15] <moemen> Hey, what's up guys?!
[14:15] <zack_s_> EriC^^: no "reset" is not the desired command
[14:16] <god_phantom> man all i wanna do is go to sleep
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> !ot | god_phantom
[14:17] <suntux> LOL all data is in hidden directories. Am almost have to do a big mistaken.
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> !blacklist | dougquaid
[14:19] <future_> i think i ofund it !
[14:20] <zack_s_> EriC^^: this works now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11757018/
[14:20] <zack_s_> I have to restart the server to take effect
[14:20] <zack_s_> is there some cmd I can adjust '.bashrc' without restart the server?
[14:21] <dougquaid> lotuspychje: Unless that requires a reboot to take effect it doesn't work
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> zack_s_  try 'bash' as command, then exit
[14:21] <EriC^^> zack_s_: source .bashrc
[14:22] <Guest96835> hello
[14:22] <zack_s_> EriC^^: I cannot even find the file via cmd line
[14:22] <zack_s_> via putty
[14:22] <zack_s_> I used for editing notepad++ via ftp
[14:22] <EriC^^> zack_s_: it should be in your home dir
[14:22] <dougquaid> zack_s_: ls -la
[14:22] <zack_s_> yeah, but it will not be shown by standard
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> dougquaid: you might try reboot
[14:23] <zack_s_> how can I show by standard hiffen files via ls?
[14:23] <zack_s_> hidden
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> dougquaid: wich devices are you trying to get to work anyway?
[14:23] <EriC^^> type la
[14:23] <god_phantom> ls -la
[14:23] <dougquaid> zack_s_: ls -la
[14:23] <EriC^^> it's an alias for ls -a
[14:24] <zack_s_> EriC^^: I have to setup an own alias?
[14:24] <dougquaid> lotuspsychje: It's a 3g modem that usb_storage keeps taking control of. I'm using usb_modeswitch, but I can't get it to the right mode because of usb_storage
[14:24] <zack_s_> it is not possible by default to show hidden files?
[14:24] <EriC^^> zack_s_: no, ls -a will show hidden files
[14:25] <EriC^^> zack_s_: if you're talking about an ftp client then it depends on your ftp client i guess, look for show hidden files or so
[14:25] <Konsolechka> Come to #FreeBSD -- we have no #systemd!
[14:25] <Konsolechka> Come to #FreeBSD -- we have no #systemd!
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> dougquaid: exact type of modem and ubuntu version please?
[14:25] <zack_s_> EriC^^: no, the FTP will show my by default the hidden files
[14:25] <Konsolechka> Come to #FreeBSD -- we have no #systemd!
[14:25] <zack_s_> I mean I want to show by default hidden files, when I input "ls"
[14:25] <EriC^^> zack_s_: ok, ls -a in the terminal will show hidden files
[14:26] <EriC^^> zack_s_: ls -la will show hidden files in long listing format
[14:26] <Konsolechka> Come to #FreeBSD -- we have no #systemd!
[14:26] <Konsolechka> Come to #FreeBSD -- we have no #systemd!
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> zack_s_  alias ls='ls -la'
[14:26] <god_phantom> zack_s_: ll
[14:26] <god_phantom> oh snap what k1l_ do
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> zack_s_  ll is better and faster
[14:27] <zack_s_> god_phantom: thanks
[14:28] <god_phantom> in fact, ll is already setup in the default .bashrc if i'm not mistaken
[14:28] <god_phantom> as an alias for ls -laF
[14:34] <yorwos> after i added a new user , im receiving a msg on all user accounts i have : " sudo: unable to resolve host ofoto" (ofoto is the name of my computer) but the command still seems to work , why am i getting this error msg on all my sudo commands?
[14:35] <yorwos> i added the user by "sudo adduser xxx" and then "sudo add user xxx sudo"
[14:35] <Pici> yorwos: did you also change your hostname recently?
[14:36] <yorwos> um no i dont think so
[14:36] <yorwos> i might have a long time ago
[14:36] <Pici> Just double check the files ubottu suggests:
[14:36] <Pici> !hostname
[14:38] <yorwos> its months since ive changed it i dont remember what the hostname was , the error appeared today
[14:38] <yorwos> let me check hosts and see whats going on there
[14:39] <eletious> hellp
[14:39] <eletious> *hello
[14:39] <jpentland> Is there a command I can use to restore my USB power supply if a faulty peripheral drew too much current?
[14:40] <eletious> Quick question - how different are debian and Ubuntu in regards to how they handle disk issues
[14:41] <k1l_> eletious: should be very similar
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> eletious: whats your specific question? you have a bad drive?
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> eletious  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[14:41] <yorwos> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost , <IP_ADDRESS> oldhost name , should i appoint the new hostname on the same <IP_ADDRESS> or something like <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[14:42] <eletious> Well, i have a debian laptop with a bad drive it looks like
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> jpentland: maybe a question for ##hardware?
[14:43] <eletious> but the debian channel is always empty
[14:43] <jpentland> lotuspsychje, well isnt there a command that just enables it again in software? If I reboot the machine then it works agian
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> eletious: you can install ubuntu and check your logs for hd errors
[14:44] <eletious> Well... this is where it gets funky
[14:44] <eletious> I can't install Ubuntu without using a different machine to do it as the BIOS is locked down on this one
[14:45] <eletious> it's a cashed out device at the repair center I work at, but as we had already ordered parts we decided to repair and use it
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> eletious: reset bios password with a bootcd like hirens boot cd
[14:45] <eletious> I can't use hirens because I can't boot from the ODD
[14:45] <eletious> unless using hiren's on a hard drive is a thing?
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> eletious: can you boot usb sticks?
[14:46] <eletious> nope, tried it
[14:46] <eletious> the original owner was a school
[14:46] <eletious> so they tightened it as much as possible
[14:46] <Pici> yorwos: I'd use the new hostname.
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> eletious: load an ubuntu .iso into your grub and install from there?
[14:47] <eletious> I feel dumb for asking but how do I do that?
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> eletious: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[14:47] <stiv2k> if 15.04 is stable, will 14.04 be eventually updated to more closely match the software in 15.04?
[14:47] <stiv2k> how does it work?
[14:48] <stiv2k> for LTS... like, will 14.04 still be running the same gnome in year 2019?
[14:48] <amari> stiv2k: You will only get the hardware enablement stack from 15.04, so new kernel and graphics drivers
[14:48] <mcphail> stiv2k: no - it doesn't work like that.
[14:48] <mcphail> stiv2k: if you want more modern GNOME on LTS, you'll have to wait for 16.04
[14:49] <eletious> lotuspsychje: Oh!  So I would boot, and then at the bootloader menu would specify where the ISO is to boot from?
[14:49] <stiv2k> mcphail: ah
[14:49] <yorwos> ok i think this is fixed doing a restart if i dont come back its fixed thanx
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> eletious  find out if debian has the 'grml' package ... install it, copy a .iso of ubuntu to the grml folder, update grub and reboot ... then select the iso
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: +1
[14:49] <stiv2k> mcphail: im just trying to devise a plan for my system... to keep it semi-latest but also stable, and avoid doing fresh installation very often
[14:50] <stiv2k> mcphail: maybe do a fresh LTS install every 2 years
[14:50] <eletious> MonkeyDust: I would, but the HDD is borked
[14:50] <eletious> my /var/ is kill
[14:50] <mcphail> stiv2k: eventuall snappy will come along and solve these problems
[14:50] <stiv2k> mcphail: what is snappy?
[14:50] <auronandace> !snappy
[14:51] <mcphail> stiv2k: next generation of ubuntu package management. Won't be ready for LTS on 16.04 but will be along some time after that
[14:51] <leberle> aloha! i was wondering about the notifyOSD, and i found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/572469 where they explain that it is not a bug but a feature. I think it really...sucks :D where is a good place to get in contact with devs to start a discussion to change the bubble behavior?
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> eletious  http://www.sumopaint.com/home/#app
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> oops
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> eletious  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot#grml-rescueboot
[14:52] <stiv2k> mcphail: hmm
[14:53] <skomorokh> My computer connected to "daisy.ubuntu.com" ...I didn't tell it to.  A list of common packages that make outside connections without being explicitly configured to do so?
[14:53] <stiv2k> mcphail: have people discussed at all what to do with the gigs of legacy information on google that is getting in the way... for example if i google how to do some setting in gnome or unity, the majority of results are from years past
[14:53] <stiv2k> and no longer relevant
[14:53] <stiv2k> because of how much things change in a year
[14:53] <skomorokh> stiv2k: you can restrict your search to an arbitrary date range.
[14:53] <amari> stiv2k: For now if you don't want to reinstall, why not use 14.04 LTS?
[14:54] <stiv2k> amari: i do use 14.04 LTS
[14:54] <stiv2k> in fact i am using 14.04.2
[14:54] <skomorokh> stiv2k: I have search keywords set up in firefox to say, for example, search past two years / one year / 3 months / etc.
[14:54] <stiv2k> skomorokh: that is a good way to deal with it for now
[14:55] <stiv2k> skomorokh: i imagine that new users may not realize this though and often times they might try to follow instructions in some "guide" for old ubuntu, thinking they are being self-reliant, when in reality they could be breaking their system badly
[14:55] <amari> stiv2k: So you can keep it until the next LTS
[14:55] <stiv2k> amari: yes that is my plan
[14:55] <amari> stiv2k: Do you use Unity?
[14:55] <stiv2k> amari: no, on a desktop system, i prefer gnome, unity is too bare
[14:57] <stiv2k> mcphail: amari: i'm wondering if LTS was even a good idea... maybe i shold have just went with 15.04
[14:57] <eletious> MonkeyDust: this is some crazy wizard stuff
[14:57] <eletious> better go home and grab my robes because I do NOT want to reinstall
[14:57] <skomorokh> stiv2k: LTS was a good idea. 15.04 has been giving me a fair bit of grief.
[14:57] <stiv2k> skomorokh: oh?
[14:57] <w0jtas> hello, how can i change network connection ttl in ubuntu ?
[14:58] <stiv2k> skomorokh: like what?
[14:58] <skomorokh> stiv2k: First systemd release; that touches everything
[14:58] <stiv2k> why is it marked "stable" then :P
[14:58] <stiv2k> skomorokh: doesnt 14.04 use systemd
[14:58] <skomorokh> stiv2k: nope, or at least not by default
[14:58] <amari> stiv2k: No, it uses upstart
[14:58] <Evil_Otto> I'm having some trouble setting up a port forwarding ssh tunnel.. I want anything that goes to port 8000 on an Ubuntu machine to forward to a local VM
[14:59] <Evil_Otto> The command I'm using is  ssh -R 8000:localhost:80 ubuntu@<aws machine>
[14:59] <amari> stiv2k: Really you won't notice many changes with 15.04 for daily use. And if you want to keep your system as stable as possible, better to stay with the LTS
[14:59] <amari> It should be rock-solid right now...
[14:59] <Evil_Otto> Anyone see anything wrong with that?
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> Evil_Otto: maybe the ##networking guys know this?
[14:59] <Evil_Otto> OK
[14:59] <stiv2k> amari: skomorokh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239861 <-- editing systemd config on 14.04
[14:59] <stiv2k> doesnt it mean there is systemd?
[14:59] <amari> stiv2k: Why do you want to use systemd right now?
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> eletious  what is wizard stuff?
[15:01] <OerHeks> stiv2k, no systemD in 14.04. at least not standard.
[15:02] <eletious> MonkeyDust: haha basically everything involving GRUB
[15:02] <eletious> MonkeyDust: Not really complaining, I get to learn stuff
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> eletious  yes, but you have to understand: we're all rocket scientists
[15:03] <eletious> !!! I want to be a rocket scientist too!
[15:03] <Guest96835> :）
[15:03] <Anticom> Hi all. I've set up an ubuntu server in a VM to act as a remote build host for my c++ projects. Everything works fine so far but now i wanted to shrink the ubuntu server by removing unneccesary packages. Is there a way i can uninstall everything except for a few packages?
[15:04] <Anticom> i need make, gdb and an ssh server. that's all
[15:04] <eletious> Anticom: wouldn't you need a bit more than that?
[15:04] <Anticom> eletious: what else?
[15:04] <auronandace> !mini | Anticom
[15:05] <Anticom> thought gcc was a dependency of either make or gdb
[15:05] <eletious> like the OS
[15:05] <compdoc> Anticom, when I isntall unbuntu server, I only select openssh and samba. its pretty minimal already
[15:05] <Anticom> sure
[15:05] <eletious> If you just want those packages, why not try a different distro? There are several super-minimal distros out there
[15:05] <Anticom> compdoc: hm good point. I installed the vm few month ago for something different and must have checked a few more options
[15:05] <Anticom> time for a fresh installation
[15:06] <Anticom> thank's!
[15:06] <compdoc> good idea
[15:06] <iBurley> Is there a way to get rid of these dash plugins yet?
[15:10] <eletious> "And thus, the newb learned an important lesson: Always check drives before you make them critical"
[15:11] <wdkevinone> Is there any rason why the IP's in my host file would just randomly change on their own? The first 5 entries all have the same IP now and they did not before. It is the weirdest thing.
[15:11] <eletious> cryptbin: um... are you using a dynamic IP?
[15:11] <cryptbin> No
[15:11] <cryptbin> This server has a static IP defined. It's just an internal dev server.
[15:11] <eletious> are the hosts that are referred to in your host file using dynamic IPs?
[15:13] <eletious> i only ask because >5 entries
[15:14] <stiv2k> amari: OerHeks: i only referenced that thread because i'm having the same exact issue as that user, and although I haven't applied the workaround that he mentions, I'm wondering if it will work??? since you claim there is no systemd
[15:14] <stiv2k> amari: OerHeks: it is the *only* solution i have found in all of google that claims to resolve the issue
[15:15] <inerkick> HI installed Cinnamon DE with mdm on top of my earlier my Ubuntu 14.04 Gnome3. . I want to uninstall it and keep my original Gnome3.14  Kindly help
[15:15] <eletious> um....
[15:15] <eletious> Isn't the uninstall apt-remove?
[15:16] <eletious> or am I stupid, and should shut my mouth
[15:16] <stiv2k> eletious: apt-get remove
[15:16] <eletious> stiv2k: gotcha
[15:16] <eletious> inerkick: apt-get remove
[15:17] <stacks88> im using a program called nethogs that is showing me how much bandwidth my server is pushing in and out, http://i.imgur.com/8g30goi.png but what i circled there, it doesnt show the IP of who im sending to. is there any other program you guys know of or a way where i can find out what im ip sending that speed of traffic to ? guess nethogs is not the right program
[15:17] <eletious> um....
[15:18] <inerkick> anyone here
[15:18] <god_phantom> hi
[15:18] <helloworld123456> hi
[15:18] <god_phantom> hi
[15:18] <stiv2k> hi
[15:18] <EvilTerran> howdy folks. I've found myself needing to install a single package (+dependencies) from a newer release... I've been following various instructions I googled up (eg http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/170100): added a file to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ so apt-get can see the repo, and one to /etc/apt/preferences.d/ so that release is only used by request (pinned at -100), but there I get stuck
[15:19] <MotherMGA1> I have ubuntu 15.04 and my wifi card (RTL8723BE) will sometimes stop working. I can sometimes fix it with `rmmod rtl8723be; modprobe rtl8723be`, but sometimes that will just hang the system.  It happens about twice a day. Does anyone here have a fix?
[15:19] <EvilTerran> "apt-get -t" seems happy to install it... but I've got to make it work through Puppet, which has no way of passing that flag to apt-get :/
[15:20] <mcphail> EvilTerran: I don't think anyone is going to support that here. A recipe for a broken system, I'm afraid
[15:20] <inerkick> apt-get remove ?
[15:20] <MotherMGA1> I also have better luck fixing it when it goes out by going to the "network" gui program and clicking "off" on wifi and then "on" again.
[15:21] <EvilTerran> mcphail, ah. hm. I knew it was a bit risky, didn't realise it was quite that bad :/
[15:21] <EvilTerran> I was about to mention how https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Recommended_alternative_to_pinning talks in vague ominous terms about libc6, but I guess that's a moot point if it's a bad idea period.
[15:22] <stiv2k> amari: OerHeks: skomorokh: why is that file present if systemd doesnt exist on 14.04 ?
[15:23] <eletious> inerkick: yeah, memory serving you can specify packages to remove
[15:23] <eletious> inerkick: if you want to be super-safe about it, press ctrl+alt+f1 before you do it
[15:25] <mcphail> EvilTerran: when the dependency chain gets broken, the whole infrastructure can collapse. It can get to be a real mess with no easy way to roll back. Fine if you don't mind a full reinstall but not advised otherwise
[15:27] <EvilTerran> mcphail, well, this is all on VMs that can be torn down & re-initialised at a moment's notice... so if the only risk is the install process going horribly wrong, I can deal with that; but if there's a serious risk of it lurking indefinitely, then causing mass breakage at the least-convenient-possible moment in the future, I'll have to rethink
[15:27] <cryptbin> eletious, no, they are domain names we use for our production servers and im just pointing them to the internal IP's instead of the external IP's. they are all static.
[15:29] <EvilTerran> I tried "apt-get -t ..." on a test VM, and that seemed to work fine - but it upgraded a scary selection of dependencies, including libc6, and then I found that warning in the pinning howto I linked to above
[15:31] <EvilTerran> and then it goes on to talk about building packages-from-the-future from source, and I get *way* out of my depth. especially when it comes to trying to express things in Puppet. :/
[15:33] <carter1> if I swap out controller cards, with mdadm still assemble a RAID if I keep the same disks?
[15:34] <mcphail> EvilTerran: snappy-core is at a fairly early stage, but would that suit the needs of your vms better?
[15:37] <Evil_Otto> Has anyone ever seen where starting a service only puts a listener on tcp6, not tcp4?
[15:38] <EvilTerran> mcphail, it looks like it could be wonderful ... unfortunately, this is a legacy system with quite a lot of intertia, so I don't think I'll have much luck making such a drastic change-of-direction. at least not in the time I have available. :|
[15:41] <mcphail> EvilTerran: Unfortunately, I don't think there is a good solution for you :(
[15:43] <EvilTerran> mcphail, :(
[15:44] <EvilTerran> ... here's the funny part - I only need one *tiny* feature of a single package that isn't in the version I'm stuck with. oh well, back to the drawing board, I guess.
[15:45] <EvilTerran> it happens to be the sshd, and we have no physical access to the machines, so I can't really take any big risks with it
[15:49] <myndzi> i'm trying to get a core dump from a crash; i've set ulimit -c to unlimited and can generate a segfault, but i am not seeing anything in /var/crash which is where, presumably apport is supposed to put it?
[15:52] <eletious> Okay, so reading the grml-rescueboot documentation on my break tells me that I can just put an iso in the /boot/grml folder and then update-grub and it'll add that iso to the list of bootable options?
[15:55] <eletious> but then going to install grml-rescueboot throws an error because in order to use apt-get, i need to be able to use /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[15:57] <eletious> at least asciiquarium still works
[15:58] <eletious> is there a way to repair partitions?
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> eletious  paste this, then try again   sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> .3
[16:00] <eletious> is the .3 important or was that a face?  xD
[16:03] <eletious> MonkeyDust: specified filename does not exist
[16:09] <br33n> eletious: Curious what the issue is and your end goal, I see only the grml install issue.
[16:09] <regedit> hello
[16:10] <regedit> so at long last i fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinally managed to fix my UEFI/BIOS. problem now is only windows boots, i seem to have lost grub. What do?
[16:10] <EvilTerran> mcphail (or anyone else), say... would "newer version of ubuntu with a few older packages" be less likely to collapse the whole infrastructure than "older ubuntu, a few newer packages"? I might be able to identify the old stuff we're depending on, and upgrade everything else instead
[16:10] <OerHeks> regedit, reinstall grub maybe?
[16:11] <OerHeks> !grub
[16:11] <regedit> OerHeks: thank you!
[16:11] <br33n> EvilTerran: We support what ius in the repos for specific releases and actual issues.
[16:11] <eletious> br33n: im using debian and my /var/ partition went bad
[16:11] <marvindep> sorry, the channel for italian ubuntu users ??? tnx
[16:11] <xangua> !it | marvindep
[16:12] <br33n> !debian | eletious talk to debian
[16:12] <eletious> br33n: came here because debian is usually quiet
[16:12] <EvilTerran> br33n, are you saying "either way, you're on your own"?
[16:12] <eletious> but i am talking to them now
[16:12] <eletious> atm we're all trying to figure out why HP hates us
[16:12] <potatoe_> i need a better macro preprocessor than c99, is there anything installed on most systems? i need to loop through va_args, and be able to define -> and :]
[16:13] <br33n> EvilTerran: We support what is in the repos, unless the only option is outside that in general is all, this is a issue, not contemplation channel is all.
[16:14] <br33n> eletious: Excellent, here we are miffed when this happens, we do not want to be working on an unidentified OS, we exspect you to know the COC.
[16:14] <picklevape> I'm trying to execute sudo smbpasswd -a thepickler
[16:15] <picklevape> it asks for the password, then tells me it failed to add entry
[16:15] <picklevape> is there something i need to configure so that it logs the error?
[16:15] <picklevape> currently nothing shows up in the logs, cant figure out why its failing
[16:16] <picklevape> does the user I add in smb need to be a real system user?
[16:17] <eletious> br33n: the issue I'm having is not debian specific, I don't believe
[16:18] <eletious> and given how closely related the two are (haven't you guys switched to systemd yet?) I figured I'd ask here for a point of reference
[16:18] <br33n> eletious: Please read all the links in the header, we don't do debian period.
[16:18] <EvilTerran> br33n, I see. Before I came in here, I came across advice for very similar questions on help.ubuntu.com, askubuntu, stackexchange, etc - which gave me the impression that I wasn't trying to do anything particularly outlandish or unsupported. If I was wrong, well.. fair enough.
[16:18] <br33n> eletious: You might try ##linux if you have a freenode account
[16:19] <br33n> EvilTerran: It is only wrong if you can't fix it, in my world view. Just be careful is all. ;)
[16:21] <mcphail> EvilTerran: as soon as you move away from curated package management, you are more likey to end up with a broken system. apt-get doesn't support clean rollbacks, so most breakages require a full reinstall.  I tried it and am now completely bald
[16:21] <br33n> that iis funny, need any wax
[16:21] <joshh20> Anyone here have an idea as to why my TCP initial window appears to be 65535? I am running Mac OS X, and connecting to a Ubuntu 15.04 server
[16:21]  * mcphail lets his scalp glint in the sunlight
[16:24] <EvilTerran> br33n - heh, quite; mcphail - yeah, I fully appreciate that. I think, in the name of being careful (and keeping my hair), I'm going to need to take a few steps back - see if I can come up with a completely different work-around that doesn't involve upgrading sshd.
[16:26] <mcphail> EvilTerran: is there a backport you could use?
[16:26] <br33n> EvilTerran: Support here is just a bit specific is all, I have a few things installed and 3rd party repos but know what I'm doing, and am cloned and backed up.
[16:27] <Elon_MuSk> Can I upgrade Xubuntu 12.04 to Xubuntu 15.04 without downloading the new version?
[16:27] <mcphail> !backports | EvilTerran
[16:27] <teward> Elon_MuSk: no, you can't.  12.04 -> 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 is your upgrade path.  Alternatively, clean install.
[16:28] <br33n> Elon_MuSk: Not a good idea, you would upgrade through end of life releases, possible but the time it will take will be days.
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> Elon_MuSk  backup and fresh install is cleaner, faster, easier
[16:28] <EvilTerran> mcphail, that was the first thing I looked for. sadly not.
[16:29] <mcphail> EvilTerran: shame - backports were sometimes the least evil option
[16:29] <Elon_MuSk> Okay I see, thanks guys
[16:33] <EvilTerran> br33n, fair enough, I wasn't aware when I came in the channel that my plans were outside its scope. is there a better channel for this sort of thing? #break-your-ubuntu or something? :P
[16:34] <br33n> EvilTerran: Not sure really, I'm not familiar with your actual issue, it might help to address that, you may not have all the option known.
[16:34] <br33n> option's  err plural
[16:35] <EvilTerran> br33n, that's a very good point, I may have an XY problem (http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=542341)
[16:37] <br33n> EvilTerran: that is kinda funny here, I've been working on a intercultural communications grad program, so communication gets even tougher cross cultures.
[16:38] <EvilTerran> the original underlying issue is that (for very annoying and long-winded reasons) I need the sftp starting directory to not match the user's home directory in /etc/passwd
[16:39] <EvilTerran> sftp-server has the -d option to do just that, but it was only added in its version 6.2: http://www.openssh.com/txt/release-6.2
[16:39] <EvilTerran> but (for even more annoying, even more long-winded reasons) I'm stuck on Precise, which only has sshd 5.9: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/ssh7
[16:40] <EvilTerran> er, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/ssh
[16:41] <OerHeks> EvilTerran, why not upgrade? even it is supported till april 2017
[16:42] <br33n> EvilTerran: With a quick web look it appears what you want is in later releases, you might just need to do a ltl 12.04 to 14.04. as OerHeks has pointed out.
[16:42] <DanielCE> hey guys , very basic quesiton i want to move all files in a current folder on folder up for example mv * ../
[16:42] <sympto> hi i have a laptop
[16:43] <EvilTerran> OerHeks / br33n, well... short version: because it's serving several hundred commercial sites, all running on a 10-year-old in-house PHP framework that will never ever play nice with a newer version of PHP
[16:43] <sympto> can i pass it more than one acpi_osi argument?
[16:44] <OerHeks> EvilTerran, sounds like a security hog to me
[16:44] <sympto> OerHeks, looks super secure to me
[16:45] <EvilTerran> we were already blindly suppressing PHP deprecation warnings when I started working here, so going from 5.3.10 (Precise) to 5.5.9 (Trusty) will probably break everything ever
[16:45] <ioria> EvilTerran, you can't use another ftp program ?
[16:47] <n-iCe> guys, can I remove then two terminals are open the selection betwenn those two I don't like the way it works
[16:47] <EvilTerran> OerHeks, oh, you know it. proper security consultants would run away screaming if they saw our set-up. I wouldn't have even admitted any of that if I weren't telecommuting, for fear someone would find our servers from my IP and take the whole thing over.
[16:49] <sympto> :D
[16:49] <br33n> sounds toxic, not a healthy place to be.
[16:51] <mmc> php code doesnt work in html file on apache web server on my system
[16:52] <Fuchs> mmc: is mod_php installed and loaded?
[16:52] <denim> hi there i have installed ubuntu 14.10 desktop on a virtual machine i did nat for network now i can ping yahoo or google through ip but cannot ping or browse through hostname
[16:52] <mmc> i put .htaccess in directory root but it doesnt work yet
[16:53] <Fuchs> mmc: also could you be a bit more specific about "doesn't work"
[16:53] <EvilTerran> br33n, ... yeah, can't really argue with that. :/
[16:53] <br33n> denim: You aware that goes eol next moth?
[16:53] <god_phantom>  uncomment the LoadModule php5_module line
[16:53] <denim> br33n: i just did it for learning purpose
[16:54] <god_phantom> in httpd.conf
[16:54] <EvilTerran> br33n / OerHeks - maybe I should just close all these browser tabs full of ubuntu/sshd/apt-get/etc help... and load up linkedin instead. original plan: update sshd - cancelled; new plan: run! run while you can! :P
[16:54] <denim> br33n: just help me out with the issue i am facing
[16:55] <mmc> please again send message for me i cleaned text
[16:55] <grinchier> denim: have you checked you /etc/hosts?  or /etc/resolv.conf
[16:55] <denim> grinchier: no
[16:55] <god_phantom> mmc: make sure that the LoadModule php5_module line is uncommented in your httpd.conf file
[16:57] <histo> denim: you are having DNS issues. Your guest isn't resolving domain names properly. So it all depends on your network settings. If you want you can specify a DNS or name server in network manager. Set it to <IP_ADDRESS>  and <IP_ADDRESS>  for google's public dns servers
[16:57] <grinchier> denim: check them or paste them
[16:58] <denim> grinchier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11757819/
[16:59] <grinchier> delete that nameserver line at the bottom
[16:59] <grinchier> what does your resolv.conf look like
[16:59] <grinchier> oh that is the resolv.conf
[16:59] <grinchier> ya change that
[16:59] <grinchier> to dns server
[17:00] <grinchier> nameserver  <IP_ADDRESS>  or something
[17:00] <grinchier> oh wait i think thats google but i'm not sure google what google dns is
[17:00] <sympto> <IP_ADDRESS> is so google
[17:01] <grinchier> ok
[17:01] <danieli> <IP_ADDRESS> (primary) and <IP_ADDRESS> (secondary) are Google's primary public DNS servers.
[17:01] <sympto> <15ms
[17:01] <licwin1410> Hi guys
[17:01] <grinchier> denim: are you using netowrk manager?  change it in there
[17:01] <danieli> Correction: primary and secondary.
[17:01] <denim> grinchier: it works now
[17:01] <denim> thanks
[17:01] <licwin1410> 123
[17:01] <grinchier> np
[17:01] <sudoMatt> Can anyone recommend an open source alternative to TrueCrypt that's cross-platform?
[17:02] <grinchier> sudoMatt: linux comes with dm-crypt
[17:02] <grinchier> oh cross platform my bad
[17:02] <mmc> god_phantom  : httpd.conf is empty
[17:02] <grinchier> gov't pressured the devs to stop truecrypt i think lol
[17:03] <mmc>   god_pantom: the path : /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[17:03] <sudoMatt> Shucks, thanks
[17:05] <EvilTerran> sudoMatt, CipherShed and VeraCrypt are forks of TrueCrypt. can't vouch for them, though, I just know the names. caveat emptor.
[17:05] <histo> sudoMatt: gpg somefile
[17:06] <grinchier> wow I guess there isn't really...
[17:06] <histo> sudoMatt: sorry gpg -c somefile
[17:06] <grinchier> we're doomed
[17:06] <mmc> god_pantom : where is httpd.conf in ubuntu 14.04 i have not it
[17:07] <grinchier> the gov't might as well put targets on our head
[17:07] <grinchier> for all our enemies
[17:08] <histo> mmc: check for /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[17:08] <histo> grinchier: the gov't had nothing to do with truecrypt stopping, please stay ot
[17:08] <grinchier> keep telling yourself that
[17:09] <belu> belu
[17:09] <belu> asdasd
[17:09] <belu> asda
[17:09] <belu> da
[17:09] <belu> d
[17:09] <belu> ad
[17:09] <god_phantom> scary
[17:11] <mmc> histo : there is not httpd.conf in apache2.conf
[17:12] <ioria> mmc did you install entire LAMP ?
[17:12] <jpds> mmc: httpd.conf is a Red-Hatism.
[17:13] <ioria> apache2.conf, i think
[17:13] <mmc> ioria : yes i install with command : sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[17:14] <histo> mmc: edit your apache2.conf I was saying.
[17:14] <arunpyasi> guys, I needed help
[17:15] <mmc> histo : which line ?
[17:15] <arunpyasi> how to install universal access ? can anyone get its package name ?
[17:15] <histo> !info lamp-server
[17:15] <histo> mmc: what did you install?
[17:15] <ioria> right
[17:16] <histo> mmc: sudo a2enmod php5
[17:16] <ioria> mmc usually is sudo apt-get install php5 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5
[17:17] <mmc> histo ; i installed lamp-server^
[17:17] <histo> mmc: a2enmod php5 and restart apache2
[17:17] <regedit> how can i check the BIOS setting for SecureBoot from within Ubuntu? (I am in UEFI mode)
[17:18] <mmc> histo : thats right i didnt installd them
[17:18] <histo> regedit: still at it on that machine?
[17:19] <regedit> histo: success at last, i actually managed to fix it!
[17:19] <regedit> histo: now i just need to fix grub2
[17:20] <histo> regedit: what did you end up doing?
[17:20] <mmc> histo : i install thoes package that you said but php does not work in html file yes   , i created .htaccess in directory root but my problem is  alive
[17:21] <histo> mmc: did you run sudo a2enmod php5 yet?
[17:21] <mmc> histo : yes
[17:21] <regedit> histo: took a risk and ran the Windows 7 version of the BIOS update in compat mode for Win7, after that succeeded, installed the Win8 version of it - and it worked!
[17:21] <mmc> i ran sudo a2enmod php5 already
[17:22] <histo> regedit: nice
[17:22] <histo> mmc: what did it say?
[17:22] <histo> regedit: So what's going on with grub2 now?
[17:22] <regedit> TJ- will have a fit :D we were like, reverse engineering the BIOS flashing file...
[17:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> hello
[17:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> the waldeinsamkeit is back
[17:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> i need a way to install ubuntu without a flashdrive or cd
[17:23] <regedit> histo: i'm executing boot-repair, it's asking me to confirm that BIOS SecureBoot is disabled
[17:23] <mmc> histo : Module php5 already enabled
[17:23] <darthanubis> Waldeinsamkeit, netinstall
[17:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes how?
[17:23] <regedit> histo: it could be that somewhere along the way Windows repair turned on SecureBoot or something
[17:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> very confused very fristrated...
[17:23] <darthanubis> !netintall
[17:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> i wish i had 8 bucks for a flashdrive...
[17:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> sadly i do not
[17:23] <histo> regedit: I can't think of a way to check from within linux. Not sure if someone has implemented that yet. I know that you can check from within the bios or within windows
[17:23] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: go busking
[17:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> whast busking?
[17:24] <histo> mmc: I'd ask in #httpd
[17:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> im 17...
[17:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> never heard of that...
[17:24] <ioria> mmc testphp.php is working  ?
[17:24] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: play an instrument in the street with a hat on the floor for people to throw in money
[17:24] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: network install or bootstrap
[17:24] <mmc> ioria : yes
[17:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> bootstrap?
[17:24] <regedit> histo: i can reboot and check, the only problem is - from my last visit to the BIOS setup the SecureBoot option was present but greyed out / unchangeable!... wtf?
[17:25] <darthanubis> even netinstall requires a bootcd
[17:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[17:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> if i do a network install
[17:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> don't i need two computers?
[17:25] <histo> regedit: weird
[17:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> i only have one computer
[17:25] <darthanubis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/netinst
[17:25] <EriC^^> regedit: ubuntu works with secureboot
[17:25] <sudormrf> anyone have a suggestion for a tool to securely wipe an SSD?  HDParm is complaining
[17:25] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: you will need another system to setup a PXE server, assuming your system can PXE boot
[17:25] <darthanubis> you don't need two computers
[17:25] <ioria> mmc and you have these packages installed ? ( php5 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5)
[17:25] <actionParsnip> sudormrf: dd
[17:25] <sudormrf> dd can do a secure wipe?
[17:25] <regedit> EriC^^: really? all this time the Grub loader was saying "Booting in insecure mode..."
[17:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> could someone run me though installing ubontu 15.4 via netwrok
[17:26] <EriC^^> regedit: that's cause secureboot was disabled
[17:26] <actionParsnip> sudormrf: yes, it will write 0s from start to end if you give it the right optoins
[17:26] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: What operating system are you currently running on the machine you want to install ubuntu to?
[17:26] <regedit> hm
[17:26] <mmc> ioria : yes i have installed them
[17:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> ubontu saucy
[17:26] <sudormrf> actionParsnip, will it cause excessive wear to the SSD?
[17:26] <regedit> EriC^^: apparently this boot-repair tool wants SecureBoot to be turned off, or something
[17:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> etl
[17:26] <ioria> mmc which version of ubuntu 15 ?
[17:26] <actionParsnip> sudormrf: yes, its one write to every block on the SSD, any tool you use to "wipe" an SSD will do the same
[17:26] <EriC^^> regedit: type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:27] <regedit> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/u3du
[17:27] <sudormrf> actionParsnip, hmm.  ok
[17:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> is there some way to mount an iso to my harddrive
[17:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> and just boot from it?
[17:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> my backup harddrive just has my home backed up to it nothing else
[17:27] <br33n> Waldeinsamkeit: saucy is eol,
[17:27] <arunpyasi> how to install universal access ? can anyone get its package name ?
[17:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[17:28] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: just upgrade
[17:28] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[17:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> i know!
[17:28] <br33n> Waldeinsamkeit: Er sorry not a LTL.
[17:28] <histo> !eol | Waldeinsamkeit
[17:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes yes i know
[17:28] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: you can add the Ubuntu ISO to a small partition, then tell Grub to boot it. You can then install from the ISO
[17:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> ues
[17:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i do that?
[17:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> Waldeinsamkeit: you can add the Ubuntu ISO to a small partition, then tell Grub to boot it. You can then install from the ISO
[17:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> second
[17:28] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: you will need to use a storage that will not be touched during install, or the data needed by the installer will vanish
[17:29] <EriC^^> regedit: did we ever switch the files for efi?
[17:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> ahh yes
[17:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have two harddrives
[17:29] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: not got any optical media?
[17:29] <EriC^^> i recall your nick, but i don't remember what we did
[17:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> nope
[17:29] <regedit> EriC^^: which files?
[17:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> can i use my second harddrive to boot from
[17:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> and install over my main harddrive?
[17:29] <EriC^^> regedit: /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi etc.
[17:29] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: then put the ISO on one drive with a view to install on the other, this will remove the ability of RAID1 if that is what you require
[17:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> i need no raid
[17:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just use it as a backup
[17:30] <EriC^^> regedit: type ls -l /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi.backup
[17:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> also i was repartion my harddrive and my come crashed
[17:30] <EriC^^> is that file there?
[17:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> comp crashed
[17:30] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: then great, boot the ISO stored on the 2nd drive and use it to install to the first
[17:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[17:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i mount that iso to my second harddrive?
[17:30] <regedit> EriC^^: not there no
[17:30] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: obviously grub willneed to exist and be configured to use the ISO
[17:30] <EriC^^> regedit: oh ok
[17:30] <regedit> EriC^^: the windows installation media had EFI versions of stuff i think
[17:30] <EriC^^> did you reinstall ubuntu by any chance?
[17:31] <regedit> EriC^^: windows was installed in EFI mode, as was ubuntu, i think
[17:31] <regedit> EriC^^: nope
[17:31] <sudormrf> actionParsnip, thanks.
[17:31] <regedit> not yet at this point anyway
[17:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> so how do i install grub?
[17:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> also
[17:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> i would like to use my thrid harddrive to boot from
[17:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> that way my back up stays safe
[17:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> but i was partion it
[17:31] <br33n> Waldeinsamkeit: mention these are externals
[17:31] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, one last thing type cat /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/efi/20microsoft | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:31] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: you already have grub installed, STOP using enter as punctuation also
[17:31] <mmc> ioria : ubuntu gnome 14.04.1
[17:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> and my comp chrashed half way though so now it wont mount
[17:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> no these are all exteernal hard drives
[17:32] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: then use the standing data to recreate the backup
[17:32] <regedit> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/7lsk
[17:32] <ioria> mmc sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[17:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i fix my harddrive
[17:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> i broke it when partitioning
[17:33] <mmc> ioria : i have done it
[17:33] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: When?
[17:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> last night
[17:33] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: was there data on it?
[17:33] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, so windows is booting straight away? did ubuntu used to boot with windows installed?
[17:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> it crashed half way though the partition
[17:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> nothing i needed
[17:33] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: then just repartition it
[17:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just want to wipe it and get it fresh and new
[17:33] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: so you jeapordized your backup?
[17:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> so i can use it too boot ubontu from
[17:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> no my backup is on a different harddrive
[17:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> that i don't mess with
[17:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> 3 harddrives
[17:34] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: then wh cares :)
[17:34] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: you could just dd the iso to that drive and boot from it
[17:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[17:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats the best way to wipe and repartion a harddrive
[17:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> so i can use it too boot?
[17:34] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: this is a whole tonne easier with a removable drive. Do you not have an SD card or USB stick you can even borrow, just to get square
[17:34] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: well first I would just write the iso there.
[17:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> nope
[17:34] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: then fix it after installing
[17:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> none anywhere
[17:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> why?
[17:35] <regedit> EriC^^: right now windows boots right away. used to get ubuntu grub (used to have an entry in the boot menu 'ubuntu')
[17:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have ubuntu running
[17:35] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: That will be easiest for you.
[17:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> on my main harddrive
[17:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> my harddrive that i need to mount my iso on won't mount
[17:35] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: I'm talking about using one of your externals
[17:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have no externals
[17:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> only internals
[17:35] <regedit> EriC^^: i did run Windows repair at some point, which may have overridden the grub loader with a windows one
[17:35] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: did you say you had usb hard drives?
[17:36] <Waldeinsamkeit> no
[17:36] <Waldeinsamkeit> internal sata harddrive
[17:36] <regedit> EriC^^: and/or when bios was flashed the custom boot menu entries were eliminated...or something
[17:36] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:36] <EriC^^> reinstalling grub should do the trick
[17:36] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: To fix the drive you broke just repartition it, if you want you can just upgrade your ubuntu install, or you'll have to arrange booting the iso and installing new.
[17:36] <Waldeinsamkeit> yeah ok i fixxed it
[17:37] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i boot from it now?
[17:37] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: copy the iso to it
[17:37] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: then configure grub to boot the iso
[17:37] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[17:37] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i configure grub?
[17:37] <Amm0n> Waldeinsamkeit, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[17:38] <darthanubis> Waldeinsamkeit, you have a lot of reading to do my friend. The Ubuntu website documentation is very well laid out.
[17:38] <regedit> EriC^^: i added 2>&1 in there, lookout for the error message http://termbin.com/jl5o
[17:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes im new
[17:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> 17 yrs old...
[17:39] <histo> k
[17:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> everything takes like 5 times longer in ubuntu...
[17:39] <darthanubis> no
[17:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i make my computer always show hidden files?
[17:39] <darthanubis> you have to learn when you are new
[17:39] <darthanubis> learning takes time
[17:40] <arunpyasi> how to install universal access ? can anyone get its package name ?
[17:40] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: in nautilus there is the option. The shortcut key is ALT + H (I believe) use the HUD)
[17:40] <Dj_Dexter> tomivs: hi :)
[17:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> umm
[17:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> seems i do not have permmsisons to acess my hard drive
[17:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i change that>?
[17:41] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: what command are you running?
[17:41] <tomivs> Dj_Dexter, saludos poh wn de lol
[17:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> im just in the computer
[17:41] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: what are you trying to access?  or why do you think you don't have permissions?
[17:41] <Dj_Dexter> tomivs:  yep :D
[17:41] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: are you in the live CD?
[17:41] <EriC^^> regedit: it's ok, type sudo mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt
[17:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> The folder “dconf” cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it.
[17:41] <tomivs> Dj_Dexter, aquí no se puede hablar español??
[17:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> since i repartion my hard drives i get that message
[17:42] <regedit> EriC^^: done
[17:42] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: where is dconf located on the disk or what are the permissions for it?
[17:42] <regedit> EriC^^: (directly in /mnt? not like /mnt/something?)
[17:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> what is dconf?
[17:43] <EriC^^> regedit: yes, type sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/boot/efi
[17:43] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: ahh nvm. I misread your response
[17:43] <regedit> EriC^^: wait, i'm confused, should i undo the previous mount onto /mnt?
[17:43] <EriC^^> regedit: no
[17:43] <DanielCE> Hey guys i got custom linux installation, at the moment i have my subdomain a record to my server , i wonder where do i add it to the hosts file, i tried on /etc/hosts but seems like its not there
[17:43] <histo> Waldeinsamkeit: I thought you were installing ubuntu? Why are we trying to repair the OS you're overwriting?
[17:44] <regedit> EriC^^: ok so based on mounting the device directly onto /mnt, i shall execute the 2nd command you supplied then
[17:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> i can not copy stuff to my harddriove
[17:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> becuase i do not haver premmissions
[17:44] <EriC^^> regedit: ok
[17:44] <actionParsnip> DanielCE: your DNS should manage subdomains for you
[17:44] <regedit> EriC^^: done
[17:44] <Pici> ~/36
[17:44] <EriC^^> regedit: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[17:45] <EriC^^> regedit: type the whole command
[17:45] <DanielCE> ok let me ask it in other words, if i point domain to my server where do i add it on the system to recognize it ?
[17:45] <actionParsnip> DanielCE: are you running BIND?
[17:46] <Pici> histo: Maybe Waldeinsamkeit is trying to install these? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/department/universal-access/ ?
[17:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> The folder “dconf” cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it.
[17:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just need to move my iso to my harddrive
[17:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> and backup files to my other harddrive
[17:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> and it won't let me now that ive repartioned it
[17:47] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: is this in the booted OS, or are you booting to a LiveCD of some sort
[17:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> this is the booted installed main os
[17:47] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have on my hardrive
[17:48] <Pici> nevermind
[17:48] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: ok then make sure your user is the owner of it's $HOME  with:   sudo chown $USER:$USER $HOME
[17:48] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: you dont need to modify the command,
[17:48] <regedit> EriC^^: done
[17:48] <baja> hello i need help i am stuck on root of my pc and im using uubuntu 14
[17:48] <Waldeinsamkeit> also
[17:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> is there a command that will make it so ubuntu always shows hidden files?
[17:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> and is there a better file manager?
[17:49] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[17:49] <baja> how can i get out of my root
[17:49] <regedit> EriC^^: done
[17:49] <EriC^^> regedit: grub-install
[17:49] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: better is an opinion, so there is no better nor worse
[17:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> well
[17:49] <Waldeinsamkeit> a different one?
[17:50] <baja> anyone
[17:50] <regedit> EriC^^: done
[17:50] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: its like saying "better drink", what you get given may not be to your tastes
[17:50] <EriC^^> regedit: update-grub
[17:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> im 17 don't drink...
[17:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> but i get what you mean
[17:50] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: just install one, there are lots t choose from. I'm a fan of pcmanfm2
[17:50] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i go into root?
[17:50] <regedit> EriC^^: nice, the output there looked promising!
[17:50] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: nautilus can be told to show hidden files
[17:50] <baja> i was trying to find a way to unistall ubuntu and now im stuck on root
[17:50] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, type exit, then reboot
[17:50] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: why do you need to go into root?
[17:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> to change the prems for my harddrive
[17:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> i never use root
[17:51] <regedit> EriC^^: alrighty, that's it then? i'll see ya soon if it worked hopefully :)
[17:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> too much danger of messing things up
[17:51] <regedit> EriC^^: thanks muchly in advance!
[17:51] <EriC^^> regedit: ok :)
[17:51] <Waldeinsamkeit> but i need to changer some perms
[17:51] <EriC^^> no problem!
[17:51] <baja> command not found
[17:51] <baja> im stuck on my root ubuntu
[17:52] <baja> how do i get out
[17:52] <actionParsnip> Waldeinsamkeit: I gave you the command to restore ownership of dconf sdettings
[17:52] <Waldeinsamkeit> huh?
[17:52] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats the command?
[17:52] <Waldeinsamkeit> i belive it did not work
[17:52] <Waldeinsamkeit> i need graphical sudo
[17:52] <dougquaid> How do I prevent compiz from taking up so much CPU in 14.04? Are there some display settings I can turn off somewhere?
[17:53] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: try sudo chown -R $USER: ~
[17:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh
[17:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> what will that do
[17:53] <DanielCE> actionParsnip: bind?
[17:53] <Waldeinsamkeit> i really do not like running commands i do not know how to undo
[17:53] <baja> fdisk -l
[17:53] <baja> shows alkl drives
[17:54] <DanielCE> my prev tech did it and i just want to add another sub domain that i redirected to that server
[17:54] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: it will change the owner of the files in your home dir to the user
[17:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhhhh
[17:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> my home dir is fine
[17:54] <baja> im trying to delete partition
[17:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> i need to make it so i own my external harddrives
[17:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> right now root is the only person iwth permissions to use them
[17:54] <Waldeinsamkeit> i need to change it so i can access them too
[17:54] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: i thought actionParsnip was trying to change the owner?
[17:55] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh
[17:55] <Waldeinsamkeit> im not sure his idea worked...
[17:56] <EriC^^> he didn't use -R
[17:56] <regedit> EriC^^: i'm back :)
[17:56] <EriC^^> regedit: wb :)
[17:56] <DanielCE> i got multi domain direct to same server
[17:56] <EriC^^> did it work?
[17:56] <regedit> EriC^^: good news is, grub2 is back in business and my ubuntu installation booted fine
[17:56] <EriC^^> cool
[17:56] <regedit> EriC^^: bad news is, grub reports an error when trying to select the windows boot manager...
[17:56] <EriC^^> what does it say?
[17:56] <Vyse007> I have a folder on a client computer that I want to export to my entire network (using NFS). What changes must I make to my exports file on the server?
[17:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> some advice on launching a graphical sudo?
[17:57] <regedit> EriC^^: forgot the exact wording, something with a GUID and about the file not beind found maybe...
[17:57] <regedit> EriC^^: any way to save the output?
[17:58] <regedit> EriC^^: i need to run for a few min, will be *right* back
[17:58] <EriC^^> ok
[17:58] <regedit> EriC^^: thanks again very muchly! brb..
[17:58] <Vyse007> Anyone that can help me with an NFS query?
[17:58] <EriC^^> np
[17:59] <Johnny_Linux> my cat ate my grub
[18:00] <Waldeinsamkeit> please help me get my perms to my hardrives back
[18:01] <OerHeks> Waldeinsamkeit, graphical sudo = gksu
[18:01] <OerHeks> !sudo
[18:01] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[18:01] <Waldeinsamkeit> im trying to launch gksu nautlius
[18:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> so i can change the perms of my harddrives
[18:02] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: i have a feeling you're doing everything all wrong
[18:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> proobbly most likely
[18:02] <EriC^^> what are you trying to do?
[18:02] <Waldeinsamkeit> im 17.... in over my head...
[18:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> do you have teamviewer?
[18:03] <EriC^^> no
[18:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> ill just show you my screen
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> Waldeinsamkeit  what are you struggling with? ubuntu is very easy to use
[18:03] <OerHeks> Waldeinsamkeit, what type of partitions are on those drives, ntfs?
[18:03] <Waldeinsamkeit> ext4
[18:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> there all ext4
[18:04] <OerHeks> Waldeinsamkeit, oke, i would use chown
[18:04] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats chown do?
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> change owner
[18:04] <OerHeks> change ownership
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> Waldeinsamkeit  what was your original question? what brings you here?
[18:06] <Waldeinsamkeit> http://i.imgur.com/4qvTlwN.png
[18:06] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok heres my problem
[18:06] <dogstinkz> your mamma wore a condom but the ape Negro she fucked ripped it off and hatched your half nigger ass
[18:06] <Waldeinsamkeit> wtf
[18:06] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: that happens sometimes, so you were saying.. ?
[18:06] <sympto> dogstinkz: german, eh?
[18:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> i can not put anything on my harddrives
[18:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> without perms...
[18:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i fix?
[18:07] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: if they're ntfs then you're not mounting them correctly
[18:07] <Fyxi> What is best IRC client (GUI based) for Linux?
[18:07] <Fyxi> I use XChat actually.
[18:07] <sympto> Waldeinsamkeit, take a look at /etc/fstab and put your drives into it
[18:07] <Tm_T> !best | Fyxi
[18:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> there not ntfs
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> Fyxi  the one you like most, is the best
[18:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> there ext4!
[18:07] <Fyxi> !best
[18:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> i use xchat
[18:08] <OerHeks> Fyxi, xchat is EOL, no longer in development.
[18:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> i like it works fine
[18:08] <Waldeinsamkeit> till it breaks i use it
[18:08] <Tm_T> Fyxi: sorry, looks like I forgot the factoid, anyway, "best" is subjective, you got to try what suits to your needs (:
[18:08] <Fyxi> I used on Windows hexchat, I will move into it, thank's ;)
[18:09] <GitNick> I've been trying Komanda, http://komanda.io
[18:09] <Waldeinsamkeit> xchat is same as hexchat just about
[18:09] <GitNick> Been pretty good
[18:10] <Fyxi> I have BIG fps drop on Team Fortress 2 (I am comparing to Windows8 performance). What is issue?
[18:10] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh probbly improper drivers
[18:10] <Waldeinsamkeit> finilly something i can relate too
[18:10] <Fyxi> I have AMD and IntelHD graphic card. Default is AMD.
[18:10] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have 1500+ hours on tf2 in the past year
[18:10] <Fyxi> I moved into AMD Catalyst driver (fglrx).
[18:11] <OerHeks> Fyxi, wine issue perhaps, join #winehq for help.
[18:11] <OerHeks> !wine
[18:11] <Waldeinsamkeit> don;t use wine to run steam fyxi
[18:11] <Waldeinsamkeit> for tf2 it runs worse
[18:11] <Fyxi> Umh, Team Fortress I use steam ;)
[18:12] <BaloneySandvich> Waldeinsamkeit 'sudo chmod ugo+rw' gives others group read write access but you wont be owner
[18:13] <OerHeks> There is a #ubuntu-steam channel too
[18:13] <BaloneySandvich> ull need to append your drives full path at the end also
[18:13] <Fyxi> I run everything using "native" way.
[18:14] <BaloneySandvich> ugo stands for user group others
[18:16] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats the best way to change perms of a ext4 hardrive
[18:17] <OerHeks> told you, chown
[18:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> i was googling
[18:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> seems like chown is a bad way
[18:17] <OerHeks> or that line from BaloneySandvich is not bad either
[18:17] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: is it a ntfs or ext4?
[18:17] <regedit> EriC^^: back
[18:17] <OerHeks> Depends what you want, for 1 user, or all ?
[18:18] <BaloneySandvich> Waldeinsamkeit i said 'sudo chmod ugo+rw /your/drive/Path'
[18:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> i want to be the owner of my harddrives
[18:18] <regedit> EriC^^: latest was: grub option for windows boot manager results in error
[18:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> instead of root
[18:18] <EriC^^> if it's a ext4 chown is the only way, ntfs you should mount it with whatever perms,users you want, or if it's a one time thing just use chmod and chown
[18:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> its ext4
[18:18] <EriC^^> regedit: wb
[18:19] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: ok, if you want to change all files to be owned by you, type sudo chown -R <your user>: /path/to/mountpoint
[18:19] <regedit> EriC^^: truth is I might not care about this issue, since the system boot menu seems to offer a windows boot option, though i havent tried it yet - i assume it works
[18:19] <EriC^^> it'll change the mountpoint as well though
[18:20] <ch33sus> hey im having trouble with the resolution of an external monitor inside my ubuntu 14.04 VM (vmware), i used xrandr to create the mode and added it to the output, but i still get 2400x1350 instead of 1920x1080
[18:20] <EriC^^> regedit: type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> that you soo much
[18:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> sudo chown -R sysop: /media/sysop/Steam
[18:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> that worked perfectly
[18:21] <OerHeks> Waldeinsamkeit, have fun!
[18:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> your awesome
[18:22] <regedit> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/2nh6
[18:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> now i need to back up 130 gb of data
[18:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> now that i can move stuff to my harddrive
[18:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> next problem
[18:23] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i enable alwasy showing hidden files in natilus
[18:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> second if i place my iso in my hardrive
[18:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> and thats the only thing on it
[18:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> can i boot from it
[18:24] <grinchier> no
[18:25] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: try gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.preferences show-hidden-files true
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> !manual | Waldeinsamkeit do some reading here
[18:25] <EriC^^> regedit: the windows entry looks pretty normal
[18:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> nope
[18:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> that did not work
[18:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> still can't see hidden files
[18:26] <OerHeks> Waldeinsamkeit, only with grub installed, you can boot an iso
[18:26] <regedit> EriC^^: maybe it just got changed to some other identifier or something, after i ran windows startup repair?
[18:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> how do i instal grub to a harddrive?
[18:26] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: go to edit > preferences > show hidden files
[18:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> wheres edit?
[18:27] <OerHeks> There is a fine manual for isobooting with grub
[18:27] <EriC^^> it's in the menu at the top
[18:27] <OerHeks> but do one question at the time
[18:27] <EriC^^> it's hidden unless you hover over it
[18:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> whers the menu?
[18:27] <allizom> Just press Ctrl+H
[18:27] <wolftune> EriC^^: just a note: I ended up reinstalling OS, now I am back to working, also discovered that it *was* main drive problem and it was a loose connection because of broken screw housing
[18:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[18:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> ctrl h works
[18:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> but im tired of allways pressing cntl h
[18:28] <wolftune> EriC^^: I attached the broken housing to the screw so it's like a nut and at least should be much better than before, system is working today
[18:28] <EriC^^> regedit: hmm it's odd that grub is complaining about the guid, i dont know all grub does is chainload the windows efi file
[18:28] <wolftune> EriC^^: thanks for all your help
[18:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> can someone please point me to the grub install to hardrive guide so i can boot my iso?
[18:28] <EriC^^> wolftune: no problem
[18:29] <Guest50094> hi
[18:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> In any file manager window, click Edit ▸ Preferences and select the Views tab.
[18:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> where is edit located??
[18:30] <Johnny_Linux> on top of menue, roll your mouse over it
[18:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> i see no menu...
[18:31] <dupingping> awesome notes editor: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntusticky/files/ubuntu-sticky-trial_1.0.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb/download
[18:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> can someone give me a screen shot please?
[18:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> im using very old ubuntu
[18:31] <Johnny_Linux> you must be on unity
[18:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes i am
[18:31] <EriC^^> which ubuntu?
[18:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> i still have not figuered out how to get out of it
[18:31] <Johnny_Linux> couldnt tellya
[18:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> ubuntu unity saucy
[18:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> http://i.imgur.com/1ku79Nw.png
[18:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> herers what it looks like
[18:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> wheres this "edit" ??
[18:32] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: ok, can you explain what your end goal is?
[18:32] <EriC^^> iso etc etc
[18:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> find edit
[18:32] <EriC^^> no, the other goal
[18:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> change prefrences so i can see hiden files
[18:32] <allizom> Do you see that empty bar on the top of the screen? Point the mouse over there
[18:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> ohh duh
[18:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> thank you allizom
[18:33] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: open the file manager, point the mouse to the top and click on edit
[18:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes found it
[18:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok how do i boot a iso from my harddrive
[18:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> i belive i need to put grub on it
[18:34] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: you have saucy installed right now and you want to install a new ubuntu version?
[18:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[18:35] <EriC^^> do you have a usb?
[18:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> i want to boot 15.04 off of grub on a new harddrive
[18:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> use it to wipe saucy off
[18:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> and install 15.04 onto my main harddive
[18:35] <regedit> EriC^^: i guess i'll ignore it for now, thanks a lot for helping me fix the grub+ubuntu!
[18:35] <EriC^^> ok, copy the iso there, and follow this guide to boot it and then install as usual
[18:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[18:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> guide please ;P
[18:35] <EriC^^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[18:35] <mnms_> hello world
[18:36] <EriC^^> regedit: ok, no problem
[18:37] <EriC^^> Waldeinsamkeit: in the installer make sure you pick to wipe out saucy and install ubuntu instead
[18:38] <EriC^^> make sure it installs to the right place
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> yesss
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[18:38] <EriC^^> do you dual boot on this main hdd?
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> im a little confused here
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> nope
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> just saucy
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> one partition
[18:38] <EriC^^> ok, cause it might wipe the whole hdd
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> thats fine
[18:38] <Waldeinsamkeit> thats what i want
[18:39] <EriC^^> have you backed up your /home and installed packages list?
[18:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[18:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> sudo apt-get install grml-rescueboot
[18:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok did htis
[18:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> where does it put it?
[18:39] <EriC^^> i dont know what that is
[18:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> idk eaither
[18:39] <EriC^^> interesting
[18:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just want grub on my hardrive
[18:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just need to boot it
[18:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> my end goal to boot a iso off a clean hardrive
[18:40] <EriC^^> i'd do sudo cp -a /home /path/to/backup/hdd
[18:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats taht do
[18:41] <EriC^^> copy your /home
[18:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> i did that already
[18:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> my home is backed up to a my thrid harddrive
[18:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> my os is one my 1st harddrive
[18:41] <Waldeinsamkeit> and im trying to get it soo i can install 15.04 off my 2nd harddrive
[18:41] <quants> guys how do i get itunes for ubuntu?
[18:42] <EriC^^> !wine | quants
[18:42] <csmule> If an application is accessing a particular IP address, is it possible it won't show up in netstat,tcpdump? Or must it show somewhere?
[18:42] <SchrodingersScat> !itunes | quants
[18:43] <quants> EriC, i have wine, is there a specic place to download the itunes softwere?
[18:43] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh really?
[18:43] <Waldeinsamkeit> can i google this for you
[18:43] <Waldeinsamkeit> https://www.apple.com/itunes/download/
[18:43] <teward> quants: iTunes latest on Wine doesn't exactly work well, believe me I've tried.  (It has a lot of "Failed to Work" items)
[18:43] <OerHeks> quants, check the wineHQ database, it does not work AFAIK
[18:44] <Waldeinsamkeit> try banshee?
[18:44] <teward> OerHeks: i can verify it doesn't, tested today with the latest wine from source and it still doesn't work
[18:44] <OerHeks> Once it works, they change something.
[18:45] <EriC^^> quants: it seems itunes only works with older versions, and some people use a vm to use itunes on ubuntu
[18:45] <EriC^^> *older versions if using wine
[18:46] <SchrodingersScat> vm + usb passthrough is possibly easiest bet
[18:49] <alban> salut !
[18:49] <EriC^^> !fr | alban
[18:49] <Fyxi> umh, is i7-4510U supporting passthrough?
[18:49] <alban> hello ^^
[18:50] <alban> join ubuntu-fr
[18:56] <Fyxi> which AMD GPU linux drivers have best performance?
[18:56] <teward> the proprietary ones?
[19:01] <sympto> teward but its evil http://softpanorama.org/People/Stallman/Images/saintignucius.jpg
[19:01] <OerHeks> sympto, wrong channel for that
[19:06] <ubuntu_user> Hello all!
[19:06] <ubuntu_user> Anyone here familiar with the GNOME flavor of Ubuntu??
[19:06] <grinchier> hello!!
[19:06] <grinchier> i prefer cinnamon
[19:06] <BluesKaj_> he didn't ask that
[19:06] <ubuntu_user> wonderful, are you perhaps familiar with the GNOME flavor of Ubuntu though?
[19:06] <SchrodingersScat> !gnome | ubuntu_user
[19:07] <ubuntu_user> the Ubuntu-gnome channel is worthless, I was told by 2 people "we do not answer questions here, seek another channel"
[19:07] <ubuntu_user> the open source community used to be filled with nice people back when no one cared about Linux commercially
[19:07] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu-gnome | ubuntu_user
[19:08] <SchrodingersScat> ubuntu_user: well, do you have a question now?
[19:09]  * ubuntu_user says I just installed Ubuntu GNOME into a virtual machine (that went fine), but I am trying to set it up to have metacity style menus. Can anyone assist me with this, since the metacity package seems unavailable?
[19:09] <ubuntu_user> yes, since those pages I just looked at were worthless
[19:10] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: Do you want GNOME Shell or do you want another Window manager?
[19:10] <ubuntu_user> Whence I installed Ubuntu (regular) and then installed "metacity" I got some very nice styled menus (the Application menu in particularity), whence I installed GNOME Ubuntu, metacity was unavailable to be installed and the menues are very different
[19:11] <ubuntu_user> What I wanted was to start with GNOME Ubuntu (since all the unity crap wouldn't be there) and then get the menus to look like the metacity I have with regular ubuntu
[19:11] <ubuntu_user> same login style screen and the application menu
[19:12] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: So you're not starting with GNOME because you want GNOME, but just because you don't want Unity?
[19:13] <ubuntu_user> not at all
[19:13] <ubuntu_user> I am starting with GNOME because I want GNOME and the metacity stuff
[19:13] <ubuntu_user> did I do something wrong?
[19:13] <OerHeks> "with regular ubuntu" ?? that would be Unity, gnome-session-fallback is the package to get metacity AFAIK.
[19:13] <ubuntu_user> the regular GNOME is 3, metacity is supposed to be like GNOME 2?
[19:13] <b4332> ubuntu_user: the gnime-shell is mutter
[19:13] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: Metacity is GNOME2. GNOME3 is a very different beast, at least as far as the shell is concerned.
[19:13] <ubuntu_user> apt-cache after installing GNOME Ubuntu was not there gnome-session-fallback
[19:14] <ubuntu_user> I WANT METACITY
[19:14] <ubuntu_user> good grief
[19:14] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: I think Ubuntu MATE might be a good fit for you.
[19:14] <ioria> !info gnome-session-flashback
[19:14] <ubuntu_user> let me try that ubottu
[19:14] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: Please stay calm and respectful. Everyone here is a volunteer.
[19:14] <OerHeks> please tone down ubuntu_user, i read you make the same fun in #ubuntu-gnome, no wonder you don't get answers.
[19:15] <mikelnx> i use mate and love it
[19:16] <ioria> ubuntu_user, see if it helps : http://www.debugpoint.com/2014/08/install-gnome-in-ubuntu-14-04-flashback-metacity-replacing-unity/
[19:16] <Waldeinsamkeit> hello
[19:16] <Waldeinsamkeit> im trying to mount a iso to my hardrive so i can boot it any help would be amazing?
[19:16] <monique> hello
[19:17] <Jordan_U> Waldeinsamkeit: What iso are you trying to boot from? What is your end goal?
[19:17] <OerHeks> Waldeinsamkeit, how does the guide not work ?
[19:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> 15.04 ubuntu
[19:17] <OerHeks> [20:35:53] <EriC^^> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[19:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> erm
[19:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> i think thats for repartion your main drive
[19:17] <Waldeinsamkeit> and booting off it
[19:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> not booting off a seprate drive
[19:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> and that would work
[19:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> but i need the command to change perms of a harddrive again ten
[19:18] <Waldeinsamkeit> since i can not put my iso in the grml folder
[19:18] <b4332> Waldeinsamkeit: Had you a flash or disk you would not be here again today.
[19:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes true
[19:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> but i don't
[19:19] <b4332> this sort of support is enabling
[19:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> well
[19:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have no flashdrive
[19:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> and im not getting one for a long time
[19:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> im 17
[19:19] <Waldeinsamkeit> no money to get one
[19:20] <Waldeinsamkeit> for the next three weeks...
[19:21] <Jordan_U> Waldeinsamkeit: How many hard drives do you have in this machine? What operating systems are currently installed or otherwise avaialable to boot from?
[19:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> three
[19:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> main
[19:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> backup
[19:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> and emty on\e
[19:21] <b4332> all exterior Jordan_U
[19:21] <Waldeinsamkeit> no there all inside...
[19:22] <b4332> Waldeinsamkeit: You said before they were not.
[19:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> there internal!
[19:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> one 3.5 inch
[19:22] <Waldeinsamkeit> and two 2.5 inch harddrives
[19:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> whats the file path of your main hd on ubuntu
[19:24] <bekks>  /
[19:24] <Waldeinsamkeit> hurm
[19:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> i tried that it did not work
[19:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> sudo chown -R sysop: /boot
[19:25] <bekks> you tried what, and what didnt work?
[19:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> soo i want to be able to access all the files in my folder
[19:25] <bekks> Then why do you run the command above?
[19:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> sudo chown -R sysop: /
[19:25] <Ben64> don't
[19:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> becuase i do not have perms for that hd
[19:25] <Jordan_U> Waldeinsamkeit: NO.
[19:25] <bekks> That command messes up the permissions in /boot
[19:25] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: Do not do that.
[19:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> opps
[19:25] <Waldeinsamkeit> i did it
[19:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> i tired this too sudo chown -R sysop: /
[19:26] <Ben64> why
[19:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> idk
[19:26] <Ben64> don't randomly use sudo
[19:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> erm
[19:26] <Ben64> don't recursively change things you don't know what they will do
[19:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> well im trying to put a iso
[19:26] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: That messes up all permissions. You can reinstall your box now.
[19:26] <Ben64> you're doing it wrong and now you need to reinstall
[19:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> thats what im trying to do
[19:26] <Waldeinsamkeit> reinstall...
[19:27] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: whatever you tried had nothing to do with a reinstall
[19:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> but to do that i need to put a iso in /boot/grml
[19:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> and to do that i need perms...
[19:27] <Ben64> nope
[19:27] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: No, you dont need to mess up permissions anywhere to do so.
[19:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> well
[19:27] <Waldeinsamkeit> opps
[19:28] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: You dont even need to adjust permissions at all for doing it.
[19:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> well right now im back up my home folder
[19:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> cuase im pretty shure im goign to mess something up
[19:28] <Waldeinsamkeit> when i do this
[19:28] <Ben64> you already did
[19:28] <bekks> Waldeinsamkeit: Right now, you ned to reinstall your system.
[19:28] <Jordan_U> Waldeinsamkeit: If you don't completely understand a command, especially involving sudo, don't run it without checking with someone who does understand. If you keep going this way you'll break your ability to boot anything before you get the Ubuntu live iso booting.
[19:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> ok
[19:29] <Ben64> and anything involving recursion you need to be extra careful with too
[19:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> anyhelp with the reintall
[19:29] <SCHAAP137> reading back a bit... looks like you need to reinstall indeed
[19:29] <root> hi all!
[19:29] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[19:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> but I CAN NOT!!!!
[19:30] <Waldeinsamkeit> ive been trying all day...
[19:30] <SCHAAP137> that's unfortunate
[19:31] <SCHAAP137> the installation itself is really easy
[19:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> not when you don't have a flash drive its not
[19:31] <SCHAAP137> almost "next, next, finish"
[19:31] <Ben64> so go to the dollar store and get one
[19:31] <SCHAAP137> hmm, true, no DVD burner as well?
[19:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> yep
[19:31] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have 5 bucks
[19:31] <cusl> anyone fasting here?
[19:31] <Ben64> you can get 5 flash drives then
[19:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> umm
[19:32] <SCHAAP137> 5 bucks should be enough for a decent flash drive
[19:32] <b4332> Waldeinsamkeit: Have you looked for any local linux or ubuntu groups?
[19:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> what do you mean?
[19:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> i live in oshkosh wisconsin...
[19:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> my buddy normaly helps me
[19:32] <Waldeinsamkeit> but hes at work
[19:33] <SCHAAP137> what's the main obstacle in this?
[19:33] <SCHAAP137> no flash drive?
[19:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[19:33] <bekks> no cdrom either?
[19:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes
[19:33] <Waldeinsamkeit> and no cds
[19:34] <SCHAAP137> you need a medium to put the installer iso on
[19:34] <rypervenche> I see plenty of USB drives on Amazon for less than $5. You can get them at stores as well.
[19:34] <SCHAAP137> SD card maybe?
[19:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> im in oshkosh
[19:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> uhh
[19:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> my cf card is in my backpack
[19:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> which i can not find
[19:34] <SCHAAP137> hmm, CF card, not sure if your machine can boot from that
[19:34] <Ben64> lots of dollar stores have flash drives, like 1GB or 4GB
[19:34] <SCHAAP137> better get some USB flashdrive
[19:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have three harddrives though
[19:34] <Roxuut> hae you got a smart phone?
[19:34] <Waldeinsamkeit> nope.
[19:35] <b4332> Waldeinsamkeit: There are groups in many towns and cities here is one example, just a suggestion is all, I would like to see you all set up. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam
[19:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> i just have three internal hardrives
[19:35] <Jordan_U> Waldeinsamkeit: Where is the Ubuntu 15.04 iso currently stored?
[19:35] <Waldeinsamkeit> my desktop...
[19:36] <cusl> how do I update in Ubuntu? I'm new here. I just installed Ubuntu in an hour.
[19:36] <ianorlin> I actually think you could technically could use an internal desktop drive as boot media with dd but you would lose all data on the disk so isn't worth it and if you choose wrong one you could lose everything
[19:37] <EriC^^> cusl: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:39] <Roxuut> is wubi  on the ISO, if so mount the image and copy it to your desktop, double click en wala
[19:39] <Jordan_U> !wubi | Roxuut
[19:39] <cusl> I just used wubi for installing this Ubuntu just now
[19:40] <cusl> so what now for me?
[19:40] <Roxuut> ut is still on the 14.04 lts version of the iso
[19:40] <cusl> how do I check what version I'm having
[19:40] <bekks> cusl: cat /etc/issue
[19:40] <Jordan_U> cusl: Boot into Windows and uninstall Wubi. Then re-install Ubuntu in a normal dual boot configuration.
[19:40] <EriC^^> cusl: uninstall it and install ubuntu properly, make recovery disks if you haven't
[19:40] <b4332> cusl: You can move the wubi to a partition there is a wiki, however like all things be backed up.
[19:41] <krishnan_> hello. this question might have already been posted and responded to. hence I apologise for any repitition
[19:41] <ubuntu_user> I just deleted my entire GNOME Ubuntu installation (it is being tested under VMware)
[19:41] <krishnan_> the cloud images for Trusty listed at https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/trusty/current/ do not appear to be available on AWS
[19:41] <ubuntu_user> I am installing 15.04 GNOME Ubuntu
[19:42] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: That sounds like the wrong thing to do for you. Try installing Ubuntu Mate.
[19:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> hello
[19:42] <ubuntu_user> Ubuntu Mate is GNOME 3 with the metacity style?
[19:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> what are the best drivers for a https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam
[19:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> shit
[19:42] <ubuntu_user> cause that is what I want!
[19:42] <ubuntu_user> thanks!
[19:42] <Waldeinsamkeit> best drivers for a AMD Radeon HD 8500M
[19:42] <ubuntu_user> I didn't realize Mate was GNOME3
[19:43] <ubuntu_user> Jordan?
[19:43] <bekks> ubuntu_user: Mate isnt Gnome3.
[19:43] <allizom> MATE isn't GNOME 3, who told you that?
[19:43] <ubuntu_user> Jordan said it was
[19:43] <bekks> ubuntu_user: He didnt.
[19:43] <ubuntu_user> I said I wanted GNOME 3 with the Metacity he said use Mate
[19:43] <ubuntu_user> sure he did
[19:43] <SchrodingersScat> !mate | ubuntu_user
[19:44] <ubuntu_user> ok
[19:44] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: I'm not sure what you mean by "GNOME3" when you very pointedly don't seem to want GNOME Shell, the largest distinguishing change in "GNOME3". Most of the rest of "GNOME3" is apps that can be used in any shell or desktop.
[19:44] <bekks> ubuntu_user: He said "use mate", which isnt "mate is gnome".
[19:44] <ice9> when I try to run GUI app I get this error and it doesn't launch: No protocol specified
[19:44] <ice9> [22732:22732:0622/214251:ERROR:browser_main_loop.cc(219)] Gtk: cannot open display: :0
[19:45] <SchrodingersScat> ice9: is your display maybe :0.0?
[19:45] <ubuntu_user> good grief, let me say what I want and then instead of people just blurting things, I can get good opinions that will help me...GNOME2 is over, GNOME3 is current. I want GNOME3, however, the style of "application menu" that I have with Metacity (having installed regular Ubuntu and adding gnome Metacity), is what I want to achieve. Does that make sense?
[19:46] <ice9> SchrodingersScat: no it's :0  also I have changed anything ,it's fresh installation and I'm opening these apps locally
[19:46] <bekks> ubuntu_user: Yes, it does make sense. But that "style" is gone in Gnome3.
[19:46] <ubuntu_user> I want to use GNOME Ubuntu because I am completely disinterested in Unity
[19:46] <ubuntu_user> GNOME3 gets that style by installing metacity I thought
[19:46] <ubuntu_user> is that not true?
[19:47] <ubuntu_user> Metacity as I understand is GNOME3 massaged to look like GNOME2, no?
[19:47] <ubuntu_user> and Metacity requires GNOME3, right?
[19:47] <b4332> ubuntu_user: the fallback gnome is what you're describing at this moment.
[19:47] <ubuntu_user> ok fine, but whence I installed GNOME UBUNTU and did an apt-cache search gnome fallback was gone
[19:47] <ubuntu_user> nowhere to be found
[19:47] <b4332> Metacity: is a window manager
[19:48] <ubuntu_user> and unable to be installed
[19:48] <ubuntu_user> no, Metacity is the Application menu style
[19:48] <bekks> ubuntu_user: No.
[19:48] <ubuntu_user> its what gives that menu style
[19:48] <bekks> Metacity is a window manager.
[19:48] <grinchier> ubuntu_user: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/change-gnome-3-gnome-shell-or-classic.html
[19:48] <b4332> you're wrong is all
[19:48] <ubuntu_user> I will read that
[19:48] <ubuntu_user> ok, I keep saying I want GNOME3 with that menu style
[19:48] <ubuntu_user> how do I get GNOME3 with that menu style?
[19:49] <grinchier> read
[19:49] <ubuntu_user> read what?
[19:49] <ubuntu_user> I am lost
[19:49] <SCHAAP137> the link
[19:49] <ubuntu_user> everyone is telling me differenst fuf
[19:49] <ubuntu_user> stuff
[19:49] <ubuntu_user> I've gotten 9 links since I got here, which link?
[19:49] <SCHAAP137> all of them?
[19:49] <grinchier> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/change-gnome-3-gnome-shell-or-classic.html
[19:49] <ubuntu_user> ok
[19:49] <grinchier> ^ the one you just said you were going to read
[19:49] <grinchier> metacity is a theme
[19:50] <ubuntu_user> metacity is a window manager someone else said? what is the difference
[19:50] <ubuntu_user> between a theme and a window manager?
[19:50] <SCHAAP137> incorrect, metacity is the original window manager from GNOME 2
[19:50] <ubuntu_user> and which is metacity
[19:50] <SCHAAP137> it's not a theme
[19:50] <Metacity> 0h for corn sakes. I need to turn off highlights here.
[19:50] <Metacity> Also hi.
[19:50] <grinchier> lol
[19:50] <SCHAAP137> a theme is just a set of files to customize the looks of the window decorations, while using a window manager
[19:50] <Fyxi> what is best driver for AMD Radeon HD 8500M?
[19:51] <Fyxi> or what are best driver's?
[19:51] <grinchier> its just a theme in gnome 3 no? i could be wrong
[19:51] <SCHAAP137> you're wrong indeed grinchier
[19:51] <SCHAAP137> it's a wm
[19:51] <grinchier> in gnome 2 it was
[19:51] <Johnny_Linux> it IS a window manager
[19:51] <Johnny_Linux> .
[19:52] <b4332> Fyxi: making a second nick is a bad idea, you are really wearing out any chance of help here, bro.
[19:52] <Fyxi> his is my friend
[19:52] <Fyxi> not second nick, baka
[19:52] <ubuntu_user> OK, so if I understand what that last link is saying, I should install GNOME Ubuntu (GNOME3), and then there is a theme that will make it look like the application menu I get in Metacity, right?
[19:52] <Fyxi> how i can confirm that it's not my multiaccout?
[19:52] <grinchier> yes
[19:52] <grinchier> its already included in gnome 3 i believe
[19:52] <ubuntu_user> what theme is it I need to use?
[19:53] <ubuntu_user> does it have a name?
[19:53] <Fyxi> i was just talking to him about my performance issues with THAT gpu and he asked this here
[19:53] <Fyxi> i only repeated
[19:53] <ubuntu_user> does theme have a name?
[19:53] <Fyxi> yeah, this is my problem, but he is trying to help me b4332
[19:53] <allizom> ubuntu_user: GNOME Classic I believe
[19:53] <Fyxi> check ip...
[19:53] <ubuntu_user> and it comes by default with GNOME ubuntu 15.04?
[19:54] <grinchier> ubuntu_user: here is a video lol
[19:54] <grinchier> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUn63SvFyZk
[19:54] <ubuntu_user> thank you, I'll go watch it
[19:55] <Fyxi> b4332: sorry for naming your 'baka' (stupid) but i really hate when someone try to say that i cheat and use multiple nick's
[19:56] <Fyxi> but i understand your though's... but you didn't check ip's
[19:56] <Waldeinsamkeit> fuck
[19:56] <Johnny_Linux> hey now
[19:56] <Waldeinsamkeit> i need a flashdrive soo bad
[19:56] <SCHAAP137> language, Waldeinsamkeit
[19:56] <OerHeks> !language | Waldeinsamkeit
[19:57] <OerHeks> no need for that
[19:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> ...
[19:57] <SCHAAP137> Waldeinsamkeit, bestbuy has a flash drive for $4.99: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/emtec-c600-superman-8gb-usb-2-0-flash-drive-black/8851241.p?id=1219398526242&skuId=8851241
[19:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> is too far away
[19:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> and they probbly have taxes
[19:57] <ubuntu_user> watched the video a few questions:
[19:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> my bicycle is in the shop
[19:57] <OerHeks> Not an ubuntu issue, is it?
[19:57] <Waldeinsamkeit> all i have is a unicycle
[19:57] <ubuntu_user> 1) Not sure what language the guy is speaking but, I'd sure love to find an English version of the video.
[19:57] <Johnny_Linux> sheesh
[19:57] <ubuntu_user> 2) I saw he was using Unity to do that
[19:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> and i already rode like 10 miles on it today
[19:58] <ubuntu_user> can that work with GNOME Ubuntu?
[19:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> so...
[19:58] <ubuntu_user> or does Unity need to be there for that to work?
[19:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> my  brother has a 4 gb flashdrive
[19:58] <grinchier> he is using gnome,  but made it look like unity,  i agree confusing lol
[19:58] <ubuntu_user> I don't want UNITY
[19:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> but hes holding out on me
[19:58] <grinchier> its for gnome3 dude
[19:58] <ubuntu_user> the video is showing unity
[19:58] <ubuntu_user> I know what unity looks like
[19:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> so any advice on mounting my iso to a harddrive and booting it would be amazing
[19:58] <grinchier> yes,  i understand,
[19:58] <Waldeinsamkeit> i have a extra emty harddrive in my computer...
[19:58] <SCHAAP137> sounds like the circumstances are not working with you on this one, Waldeinsamkeit
[19:59] <grinchier> ubuntu_user: he is using a unity theme lol
[19:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes.
[19:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> come on
[19:59] <ubuntu_user> But if I install GNOME Ubuntu 15.04, it does not have Unity
[19:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> its gootta be possible
[19:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> net install
[19:59] <ubuntu_user> so that video is not applicable?
[19:59] <grinchier> ubuntu_user: he went to the website gnome-look.org
[19:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> grub boot from a harddrive
[19:59] <Waldeinsamkeit> therers gotta be a way
[19:59] <ubuntu_user> yes, I saw that
[19:59] <ubuntu_user> but he is doing it in a Unity environment
[19:59] <ubuntu_user> I am starting with GNOME Ubuntu
[20:00] <grinchier> read the comments dude
[20:00] <ubuntu_user> where unity should be missing
[20:00] <ubuntu_user> what comments?
[20:00] <grinchier> nevermind,  good luck lol
[20:00] <ubuntu_user> I am quite confused
[20:01] <ubuntu_user> all I want is to install GNOME Ubuntu, NO UNITY, and have the Metacity look
[20:01] <grinchier> so i gave you two suggestions
[20:01] <ubuntu_user> ok
[20:01] <grinchier> one is to go to gnome-look.org and download the theme
[20:01] <SCHAAP137> ubuntu_user, then install MATE
[20:01] <ubuntu_user> MATE is GNOME3 with the Metacity look?
[20:01] <SCHAAP137> MATE gives you a classic metacity-like look by default
[20:01] <ubuntu_user> I thought someone said it was not
[20:01] <Waldeinsamkeit> can someone remote install a new os?
[20:01] <SCHAAP137> it's not GNOME3, but that's not relevant
[20:02] <Johnny_Linux> ubuntu_user , go for mate.
[20:02] <Johnny_Linux> i use it
[20:03] <SCHAAP137> i use MATE as well
[20:03] <grinchier> you can go to gnome-look.org and download w/e theme you want,  there is a whole list of metacity ones.
[20:03] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_user: MATE is a fork of GNOME2. http://mate-desktop.org/ You might be happy using MATE's panel and window manager with GNOME3 applications instead of the forked MATE alternatives.
[20:03] <Johnny_Linux> wouldnt use anything else
[20:03] <SCHAAP137> ubuntu_user, this is what MATE looks like: https://ubuntu-mate.org/gallery/Screenshots/ubuntu-mate-1504-raspberry-pi-2-screenshot.png
[20:03] <SCHAAP137> it's probably what you want
[20:03] <grinchier> or be crazy and diff here  http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=101
[20:05] <Bashing-om> Waldeinsamkeit: Are you using, or have you seen : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot ?
[20:06] <Waldeinsamkeit> yes i have
[20:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> but i cannot copy my iso to the folder to boot it
[20:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> nvm
[20:07] <Waldeinsamkeit> illl try that again
[20:07] <Jordan_U> Waldeinsamkeit: Did you try using that "sudo mv" command given on that page?
[20:15] <Hail_Spacecake> i"m running ubuntu 14.04, for some reason the network icon in the top corner disappeared
[20:16] <Hail_Spacecake> and, I don't seem to have networkmanager installed at all
[20:16] <Hail_Spacecake> which is what I thought provided that
[20:16] <Hail_Spacecake> there's no nm-applet I can restart or anything
[20:17] <Jordan_U> Hail_Spacecake: What is the output of "nm-applet" at a terminal. Please use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com if the output is more than one line.
[20:17] <lickalott> guys is anyone in here good with photorec?  or know of a chan that I can ask questions in?   I just want to add file types to the search
[20:18] <Hail_Spacecake> Jordan_U: well before I explicitly installed networkmanager nm-applet didn't exist at all
[20:19] <Hail_Spacecake> now when I run it I get "Could not initialize NMClient /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager"
[20:19] <Hail_Spacecake> and it shuts down
[20:19] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm pretty sure I didn't uninstall networkmanager since the last time I used ubuntu
[20:19] <regedit> would anyone know anything about VirtualBox? i'd like to virtualize Ubuntu as guest on Windows host, i'm wondering if i need the -mbr option to the VBoxManage internalcommands when creating the VMDK
[20:21] <rblst> regedit: why not use the GUI?
[20:22] <egyptian[work]> whats it mean when sudo add-apt-repository ppa:maas-maintainers/stable times out with an error of pp name might be incorrect?
[20:22] <regedit> rblst: the GUI doesn't make a VMDK for the primary hard drive... or does it?
[20:24] <rblst> regedit:  you can choose your disk format when creating your machine
[20:24] <regedit> rblst: I know but i'm not sure it supports creating a VMDK of current hard drive and specific partition(s) from the GUI... le'me check
[20:24] <Jordan_U> Hail_Spacecake: run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" and see what packages it proposes to install. If it doesn't want to install anything you've decided for sure you don't want, then it's probably a good idea. ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that depends on all packages installed in Ubuntu by default.
[20:25] <SCHAAP137> regedit: i have a ubuntu VM in virtualbox under win 8.1, just followed the steps in the GUI to make it
[20:25] <SCHAAP137> no special commands needed
[20:25] <regedit> hm interesting ok
[20:25] <regedit> SCHAAP137: do you have (U)EFI enabled?
[20:25] <regedit> GPT and stuff
[20:26] <SCHAAP137> i have an UEFI BIOS yes, with secure boot disabled
[20:26] <SCHAAP137> GPT is a partitioning scheme
[20:26] <Hail_Spacecake> Jordan_U: that didn't install anything
[20:26] <SCHAAP137> like MBR, but different
[20:26] <SCHAAP137> i don't see how it's relevant to a virtual machine
[20:26] <Hail_Spacecake> Jordan_U: does the 'networking' service start networkmanager?
[20:27] <Hail_Spacecake> or is there a separate service for that?
[20:27] <regedit> SCHAAP137: was your ubuntu and windows installed in EFI mode? this can be tricky since your BIOS can have UEFI enabled but the OSs still install in non-UEFI mode
[20:27] <regedit> SCHAAP137: if you want to give the virtual machine to use a specific partition of your HDD, if they are not regular msdos MBR partitions but rather GPT...
[20:28] <SCHAAP137> ah, you want to use a physical disk
[20:28] <SCHAAP137> haven't tried that
[20:28] <regedit> yup...
[20:29] <SCHAAP137> i was already thinking, why does this matter when using a disk file, but now i see your point
[20:29] <Jordan_U> regedit: I saw that you were able to fix your boot firmware. Did you ever file a bug report? If nothing else, it's a great place to publicly post how you solved the problem.
[20:29] <SCHAAP137> i have ubuntu running just as a regular VM in vbox
[20:31] <regedit> Jordan_U: heya thanks for following up, yes i have the bug text we wrote and have more info to add to it. Out of deperation i actually just ran the Windows 7 version of the lenovo provided BIOS update, and after that surprisingly worked, i ran the Windows 8 version and that worked too
[20:32] <regedit> Jordan_U: i think the bios was badly corrupted, and the win8 version couldnt work (at first), but the win7 (legacy bios?) managed to update
[20:32] <regedit> and after sanity was restored that way, it was even able to update the more advanced win8 update
[20:32] <regedit> now i have all sorts of advanced UEFI options in bios :)
[20:36] <regedit> Jordan_U: might you know a thing about VirtualBox physical disk VMDK and the -mbr option on a UEFI system?
[20:37] <rblst> regedit: i just wonder how you reference a partition in windows if it's not a drive
[20:37] <regedit> rblst: the VBoxManage command line seems to accept a parameter for that -partitions
[20:38] <lickalott> so photorec claims to restore .avi files (or RIFF) by default but I see no selection in the menu to choose it.  Am I crazy?
[20:38] <rblst> regedit: i see, thanks
[20:38] <regedit> https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#idp97335088
[20:38] <regedit> and onward
[20:38] <gartral> hey all, I'm looking into building a new desktop soon and I'm wondering what your thoughts are on new hardware, a few caveats are; 1) ABSOLUTLY must be Intel based. 2) must work perfectly with ONLY Ubuntu installed.  Where has the option go? Anymore security updates?
[20:40] <grinchier> qweas: what verison are you using?
[20:40] <Jordan_U> gartral: https://system76.com/ http://zareason.com/shop/home.php
[20:41] <qweas> latest on Ubuntu website
[20:42] <Bashing-om> qweas: Terminal way : ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' .
[20:44] <gartral> Jordan_U: neither of those companies tell me what motherboards they use.
[20:44] <Jordan_U> gartral: If you're building your own computer, I think you're pretty much on your own as far as hardware support goes. If the hardware doesn't work, return it. I may be (and hope) I'm wrong about that though.
[20:46] <regedit> Jordan_U: ^ no ideas i guess?
[20:47] <gartral> Jordan_U: well let's get the painfully obvious out of the way, most boards with USB3.0 hub ports aren't going to work right, so that slashes out most ASRock boards... I certainly don't want to support Foxconn.. that there eliminates MSI and Intel boards.. and I kinda would like built-in wifi...
[20:48] <Jordan_U> !hcl | gartral
[20:49] <votato> Ello
[20:49] <sidi> Is there any API that allows me to find out which of *all* the Ubuntu uni+multiverse packages correspond to desktop applications (as opposed to system utilities / dev tools / CLI apps / the Unity shell itself)?
[20:51] <Bashing-om> sidi: synaptic ? ' apt show synaptic ' .
[20:51] <gartral> Jordan_U: that list lacks LGA1150 boards entirely, also a good portion of what it DOES have dosn't display the info I'm interested in..
[20:52] <ianorlin> sidi: I would use synaptic for that
[20:52] <Jordan_U> sidi: apt-file  show package | grep '\.desktop$' # Tells you if the package contains a .desktop file, which I think is a pretty reliable indicator of being a "desktop application" (GUI app with an entry in most Desktop's launchers).
[20:52] <votato> #join freenode
[20:52] <votato> well that completely failed didn't it
[20:53] <ianorlin> Jordan_U: that isn't always true as that would say htop is a desktop applicatoin and same with midnight commander but those are exceptions
[20:55] <Jordan_U> ianorlin: /usr/share/applications/mc.desktop /usr/share/applications/htop.desktop :)
[20:56] <ianorlin> Jordan_U: yes but those both are terminal apps with a desktop file
[21:04] <btravis786> Can anyone tell me what is the fendora irc chat room
[21:05] <Fuchs> btravis786: #fedora, and you can search for channels with alis, see /msg alis help list. /msg alis list *searchterm* looks for channel names containing searchterm. /msg alis list * -topic *searchterm* looks for channel topics containing searchterm.
[21:06] <grinchier> your using fedora instead of ubuntu!?!?   yikes
[21:07] <Fuchs> *you're, and hardly the channel for the debate
[21:08] <OerHeks> !discuss
[21:11] <sidi> Jordan_U, thanks, you're awesome
[21:11] <sidi> Bashing-om, ianorlin thanks too, will check out synaptic
[21:11] <Jordan_U> sidi: You're welcome.
[21:12] <johnson> hello
[21:12] <Bashing-om> !13.10
[21:13] <Jordan_U> sidi: Note that apt-file show will show files from any package containing the substring you pass, so "apt-file show mc" (unfortunately IMHO) shows files from more packages than just "mc". "apt-file  show  --regexp '^mc$' | grep '\.desktop$'" shows only info about mc, but you need to be sure that your package name doesn't containin any characters that are considered special in a perl regexp.
[21:15] <sidi> Jordan_U, I could probably make advantage of that and query all the packages at once... for all i care, the desktop files should be named after the app in question, so I can find which have an exactly identical package and manually identify the remaining hundred or so... hopefully..
[21:16] <sidi> Thanks for the warning though
[21:20] <Jordan_U> sidi: What is your end goal? The contents of the app-install-data package may interest you as well.
[21:23] <sidi> Jordan_U, i have a LD_PRELOAD library which logs some system calls, it's great but on a development heavy workload it collects up to 1GB a day of data. I want to reduce it to desktop applications. I'm using this to evaluate the fitness of GUI toolkit APIs for real-world apps
[21:23] <sidi> As part of a research project on app sandboxing...
[21:26] <sirsanndy> happy fasting
[21:28] <Fahad> Halo !
[21:39] <blackflow> Any ideas what's wrong here? I've got cifs-utils installed, but no mount.cifs command. Running it suggest I install cifs-utils. Ubuntu 15.04
[21:44] <blackflow> even weirder. dpkg -L cifs-utils shows /sbin/mount.cifs but the file does not exist
[21:45] <ubuntu202> blackflow: Have you seen this wiki? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently  outside any knowledge here however.
[21:45] <blackflow> okay, forced reinstall of cifs-utils fixed it, but now I'm dying to know what went wrong
[21:45] <mmc> i installed lamp server on my laptop
[21:46] <blackflow> ubuntu202: I've seen it, but that's irrelevant to my problem. thanks though.
[21:46] <mmc> and i create a free domain   how to bind my web server to my domain ?
[21:46] <blackflow> mmc: your domain should point at your web server's IP address. you should configure apache to "listen" for that domain (called vhost or virtualhost).
[21:50] <mmc> blackflow : i have done them
[21:51]  * penguin1263 FUCK AT&T
[21:51] <ubuntu202> blackflow: was not sure, glad to see you did yourself. ;)
[21:51] <ubuntu202> it*
[21:51] <Jordan_U> penguin1263: That is both inappropriate and offtopic for #ubuntu. Please stick to productive and respectful support discussion.
[21:56] <regedit> Jordan_U: heya, not sure you're seeing my messages - are you?
[22:03] <blackflow> and 2119
[22:03] <blackflow> oops
[22:04] <towerhii> hi
[22:05] <regedit> hello
[22:05] <towerhii> 1st timer
[22:05] <towerhii> what can we do
[22:14] <hernan> hello
[22:15] <bug22> is there someone who can help me with a driver problem ?
[22:16] <Jordan_U> regedit: Yes, I was just away (and am leaving again now).
[22:16] <regedit> Jordan_U: no prob at all :)
[22:17] <Bashing-om> !ask | bug22 and see if:
[22:18] <bug22> there seems to be some kind of issue with ubuntu 14.10-2 in regards to the nvidia driver, the dock appears on the left side but it doesn't respond to any mouse clicks
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> bug22  it's 14.04.2 or 14.10 ... which is it
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> bug22  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[22:20] <bug22> I originally had the nuveau driver but was able to change it to the latest nvidia one but like I said, no response to mouse clicks on any of the icons
[22:20] <Bashing-om> bug22: What card and what driver is loaded ? pastbin the results of terminal commands: ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 ; sudo lshw -C display ' please .
[22:20] <bug22> it's a geforce 7050, on the motherboard
[22:21] <bug22> I will have to go into the other room as the computer is there, be back soon with more info
[22:22] <Bashing-om> bug22: I do desire to see the outputs of the given commands to allow me to cross reference the card to the recomended driver .
[22:37] <jenor> anybody having issues with skype not able to show video from skype calls?  caller has no issues seeing my webcam feed.   but all i see is two black screens
[22:38] <jenor> latest skype on ubuntu 14.04
[22:38] <jenor> skype <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[22:43] <bug22> after doing what you told me to do I got - VGA compatible controller c73 geforce 7050/nforce610i version AA width 64 bit driver=nvidia latency= 0, this is regards to my driver problem
[22:43] <bug22> I had to move the whole computer system near the one I am using to webchat so have some mercy on me
[22:44] <bug22> I can see the dock on the left side but no response to any mouse clicks
[22:47] <Bashing-om> bug22: checking .
[22:47] <bug22> I am using ubuntu 14.04 32 bit
[22:51] <Bashing-om> !paste | bug22
[22:52] <Bashing-om> bug22: ^^ is this a SLI graphics set ? I do want to see that output to a pastebin please ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 | pastebinit ' you may have to install the pastbin tool .
[22:53] <bug22> hold on while I try to install that pastbin
[22:53] <Bashing-om> bug22: k .
[22:54] <bug22> I can't get into the terminal, when I try to do a control alt F2, the screen goes black
[22:55] <bug22> I was able to get into the emergency term before but now it just hangs
[22:57] <xar> How to install vim, please?
[22:57] <bug22> I did a reboot then tried to get into the emergenxy term but then the screen goes black
[22:58] <kostkon> !find vim
[22:59] <xar> How to install vim, please?
[23:00] <Bashing-om> bug22: Look'n more and more like a failure of the graphics driver. OK, let's try and boot to terminal. At the grub menu press'e' for edit mode -> boot parameters screen; arrow down to the line starting with "linux" and arrow across to "quiet splash" replace these terms with the term text. key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process to TTY1 .
[23:00] <bekks> xar: sudo apt-get install vim
[23:00] <bug22> bashing om, do you want me to do a reinstall as all I am getting is just a black screen, I cann't get any access to the terminal now
[23:01] <xar> bekks, it doesn't work
[23:01] <bekks> xar: Why not?
[23:01] <xar> bekks, even "vim file" doesn't work
[23:01] <Bashing-om> bug22: Nope, we fix before doing the nuclear solution. Try my last to gain the TTY1 terminal . That will use the fall back graphics driver .
[23:01] <bekks> xar: why not?
[23:02] <xar> bekks, No version of vim package is available, but it exists in the database
[23:02] <xar> data. This usually means that the package is missing, it has become obsolete
[23:02] <xar> or is only available from another source
[23:02] <xar> E: The package "vim" is not likely to be installed version
[23:02] <xar> I get this message as return
[23:03] <bekks> xar: Pastebin the entire output of "sudo apt-get install vim" please.
[23:03] <bekks> xar: Along with a pastebin of "cat /etc/issue".
[23:04] <xar> bekks, http://pastebin.com/syWiF9L3
[23:05] <bekks> xar: Did you somehow modified the pastebin?
[23:05] <OerHeks> choose your vim version http://paste.ubuntu.com/11759626/
[23:05] <xar> bekks, nope, just cpoied/pasted the output of "cat /etc/issue"
[23:06] <bekks> xar: your pastebin contains "cat / etc / issue". Thats wrong.
[23:06] <bug22> bashing om, I now have a desktop up, what do you want me to use to get into the terminal ? I used ctrl alt f2 and all I get is a black screen, if I press "e" down it doesn't seem to do anything
[23:06] <bug22> I had the e down while it was booting up
[23:06] <xar> bekks, yes, i putted in, to show you what have I ran
[23:07] <bekks> xar: it contains "cat / etc / issue". Not "cat /etc/issue".
[23:07] <Bashing-om> bug22: IF you are at the desktop, see if key combo ctl+alt+t will get a terminal interface .
[23:07] <bekks> xar: So did you modify the output in any way?
[23:07] <xar> oh
[23:08] <xar> the output of that line was http://pastebin.com/syWiF9L3
[23:08] <xar> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[23:09] <bug22> tried to get the term as per your instructions but nothing comes up
[23:09] <bekks> xar: So why did you modify it?
[23:09] <xar> haven't noticed it, sorry!
[23:09] <bekks> xar: So whats the output of "apt-cache policy vim"?
[23:10] <Bashing-om> bug22: OK, reboot, do you normally get grub's boot menu ? or do we need to invoke getting the boot menu ?
[23:10] <xar> bekks, http://pastebin.com/qswNyrqr
[23:11] <bekks> xar: so pastebin "sudo apt-get update" please.
[23:11] <bug22> when I boot, I can see the 14.04 with dots
[23:12] <bug22> I guess we need to invoke getting the boot menu
[23:12] <Bashing-om> bug22: Reboot, and as soon as your bios screen clears, depress and hold the right shift key -> grub boot menu ? else is this a UEFI system ?
[23:13] <bug22> ok , let me do that now
[23:14] <shome> awk or sed ?
[23:15] <bekks> Depends.
[23:15] <bug22> ok, what is happening now is when I reboot all i get is a black screen, holding down the right shift key does nothing
[23:16] <xar> bekks, still processing...
[23:18] <bug22> ok, I was somehow able to get into the terminal now, what commands do you want me to do ?
[23:18] <xar> bekks, http://pastebin.com/nkTGtUcX
[23:20] <Bashing-om> bug22: Install the tool ' sudo apt-get install pastebinit ' .
[23:20] <bug22> ok
[23:22] <zorg24> Does anyone have advice for getting data off a usb harddrive that refuses to mount (its ntfs formatted)?
[23:22] <bekks> zorg24: Take a look at dmesg to see why it refuses.
[23:22] <bug22> ok, I think I was able to get pastebinit installed
[23:22] <Bashing-om> zorg24: Properly UNmount it in a Windows machine ?
[23:23] <Bashing-om> bug22: Let's next make sure the system is up to date - for general purposes : ' sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' .
[23:24] <bug22> ok, let me do that
[23:25] <bug22> ok, I did that, it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[23:26] <zorg24> Bashing-om, I have no idea what I'm looking for, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11759683/
[23:28] <Bashing-om> bug22: Outstanding, now let's see what the hardware is so I can try and match a driver ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 | pastebinit ' the result will be a URL. Pass that URL back to the channel .
[23:28] <bug22> ok
[23:30] <bug22> ok, here's the url, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11759689/
[23:32] <zorg24> Bashing-om, I see the line device descriptor read/64, error -71 in red but I have no clue how to interpret that
[23:36] <YokoBR> hi guys
[23:36] <YokoBR> any chinese guy here?
[23:37] <k1l> !cn | YokoBR
[23:37] <Bashing-om> zorg24: I see no faults ? what line number are you referring to ?
[23:37] <bug22> I'm still here, bashing om
[23:37] <YokoBR> thanks
[23:38] <zorg24> Bashing-om, I see it a few places including line 1454
[23:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> hello
[23:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> i instaled linux
[23:39] <Waldeinsamkeit> i had my buddy come over
[23:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> and bring his laptop and a flashdrive
[23:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> damm that was easy
[23:40] <Waldeinsamkeit> is there a steam irc?
[23:40] <k1l> !steam
[23:44] <Bashing-om> bug22: I am at a loss here, Nvidia does not have a driver for that card . All Windows ! see: http://www.geforce.com/drivers . Input the info and see a perplexing situation. I am considering how to proceed.
[23:44] <bug22> it is not a card, it is the onboard VGA support
[23:46] <bug22> that's probably why Windows works on this machine, was really hoping to get away from Windows if I can