[13:58] <misc--> hello, I want to replace kde on my kubuntu 8.04 with kde 4, is that possible? I did download kde 4 via apt but kde 3 is also installed. It looks like the kde 4 programs have been installed but if I right click on the task bar and select help -> about kde, it shows 3.5.9 still. Any ideas how to actually get it to load v4?
[13:59] <sorriso2095> salve
[14:07] <bibstha> cannot for the life of me get the java applet working  :(
[14:09] <bibstha> what do i have to do to get applets working?
[14:32] <nAgoHaK> whete can I download latest kubuntu kde4 ?
[14:32] <sivaji> !kde
[14:33] <nAgoHaK> !kubuntu
[14:39] <flaccid> misc--: you select KDM 4 from the login screen dropdown before login
[14:41] <misc--> flaccid: oh right ok thanks, must have missed that
[14:41] <misc--> will try now.
[14:45] <misc--> flaccid: that's better.. geez, big difference
[14:51] <ForsakenSoul> hi can someone tell me what I can open a .chm file with
[14:51] <ForsakenSoul> ?
[14:52] <IppatsuMan> ForsakenSoul: kchmviewer
[14:52] <sivaji> ForsakenSoul .chm is a compiled webpage you need to install firefox addon for reading that
[14:52] <emilsedgh> ForsakenSoul: kchmviewer in kde3 or Okular in kde4
[14:53] <ForsakenSoul> thanks
[14:53] <Dr_willis> or a chm viewer app.
[14:53] <Jucato> (if our okular is compiled with chm support)
[14:53] <Jucato> that's what kchmviewer and okular are :)
[14:53] <ForsakenSoul> hey Dr_willis long time no see :D
[14:53] <Dr_willis> Howdy
[14:53] <IppatsuMan> I don't think that Okular in KDE 4.0.3 in Kubuntu 8.04 already supports chm
[14:53] <Dr_willis> it is? Heck i could of talked to you yesterday for all i can rember these days.
[14:54] <ForsakenSoul> Dr_willis well it was about 2 weeks aho :D
[14:54] <ForsakenSoul> ago*
[14:55] <Jucato> IppatsuMan: if you install okular-extra-backends-kde4, it will have chm support
[14:56] <IppatsuMan> Jucato: I didn't knew that, thanks for the tip :)
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[15:07] <kristian_> hi BluesKaj
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Happy Mother's Day to any mothers here :)
[15:13] <cello> ciau
[15:19] <yakuzi> are there people here with good knowledge of fstab? because i've a problem with auto mounting a fat32 partition on boot so i can use it as data partition, sometimes it's not mounted after boot, sometimes it is, but i don't have write rights, and sometimes it dismounts without i did something :s
[15:19] <yakuzi> fstab look in kwrite:
[15:19] <yakuzi> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[15:19] <yakuzi> #
[15:19] <yakuzi> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[15:19] <yakuzi> proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
[15:19] <yakuzi> # /dev/sda8
[15:19] <yakuzi> UUID=23dd2bcb-f81b-43c9-9fcc-ced7049a1112 / ext3 nouser,relatime,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 1
[15:19] <yakuzi> # /dev/sda7
[15:19] <yakuzi> UUID=c48c2cd6-6526-4902-afdd-d0b7fe6c6408 /boot ext2 nouser,relatime,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 2
[15:19] <yakuzi> # /dev/sda6
[15:19] <yakuzi> UUID=e2fea362-e42a-4962-8487-574b34c53531 none swap sw 0 0
[15:19] <yakuzi> /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,utf8,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[15:19] <yakuzi> /dev/sda5 /media/data auto users,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[15:20] <daniftodi> Unable to save bookmarks in /home/daniftodi/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml. Reported error was: Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive.
[15:20] <Dr_willis> daniftodi,  you ran the file manager as root. and now root owns the bookmark file
[15:20] <crazy_bus> I downloaded the ubuntu alt cd to try and use as a software source to install ubuntu-desktop on top of kubuntu.  However it still wants to download 239mb's.  How do I stop this?
[15:21] <Dr_willis> using  root/sudo access delete that file.
[15:21] <Jucato> crazy_bus: disable the online repositories and enable the cdrom repo
[15:21] <Dr_willis> crazy_bus,  theres a lot ofupdates to the packages on the cd. many are security  updates  You really MIGHT want to let it download them.
[15:21] <crazy_bus> Jucato: I tried that
[15:22] <crazy_bus> Dr_willis: this is on a computer that is offline for the moment
[15:22] <Jucato> once you've done that, it will say that it will "download" packages.. but in reality it will download it from the cd :)
[15:22] <Dr_willis> rember after altering the sources.list - you must rerun apt-get update.. right? even if its on the cd..
[15:22] <Jucato> uhuh
[15:24] <crazy_bus> Jucato: so it lies about how much it needs to download.  I see.  Testing now
[15:24] <Jucato> hm?
[15:24] <Jucato> 239mb.. dunno if that's a lie..
[15:24] <Dr_willis> its downloading from the 'cd' :)
[15:25] <Jucato> it's definitely not downloading the size of a full CD installer
[15:25] <crazy_bus> in my mind copying from a cd is not downloading.  Internet is
[15:25] <Dr_willis> I love it when it says 'will download 500mb, after install 1 addationam mb of space will be used' - Why not just download that 1 mb then! :)
[15:25] <Jucato> crazy_bus: in your mind. for APT. it's "downloading" from a repository source... which just happens to be offline on your CD
[15:25] <crazy_bus> I wish it would tell you how much you have to download off the internet so I can schedule on my slow internet
[15:26] <Jucato> it does. doesn't it?
[15:26] <crazy_bus> Jucato: yes, in a way.  But if that computer was on the internet I wouldn't know how much would be off the cd and how much as a download
[15:27] <Lardarse> what's the prefered way to stop X without restarting it straight away?
[15:27] <Jucato> crazy_bus: um.. I thought the online repos were already disabled?
[15:27] <Jucato> Lardarse: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[15:28] <Jucato> (if you're using kdm... replace with gdm or xdm as necessary)
[15:28] <Lardarse> and start to restart it?
[15:28] <Lardarse> ok
[15:28] <Lardarse> thanks
[15:28] <Jucato> Lardarse: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[15:28] <Jucato> to simply restart, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[15:29] <B|nTaRa> where can i get documention about Atheros wifi card ?
[15:30] <crazy_bus> Jucato: they are, but hypothetically speaking about another computer
[15:30] <Jucato> crazy_bus: then disable it there too? just to be sure
[15:31] <TheGentleman> why can't I play a music CD on Kubuntu Hardy ?  I mean a normal commercial music CD, not mp3.
[15:31] <B|nTaRa> and also where can i get documention about nvidia geforce 7000m , seem like kubuntu aint support it \
[15:31] <crazy_bus> I know you can share updates over a network.  But can you share them over a usb stick?  Or do you have to manually download each file off packages.ubuntu.....
[15:31] <Dr_willis> crazy_bus,  thers several ways you can share them on a local network
[15:31] <Dr_willis> you can install an apt-cache sort of service on one box.
[15:32] <Dr_willis> and point the others to it.  is one way to do it.
[15:32] <JoshOvki> B|nTaRa: most atheros wifi cards are supported by madwifi
[15:32] <JoshOvki> !madwifi | B|nTaRa
[15:32] <crazy_bus> Dr_willis: I knew about that.  What I was asking was without a network
[15:32] <Dr_willis> Thers the apt-cd tools.
[15:33] <Dr_willis> but i have never used those.  Beng with out a network in this day and age is like.. being without a.. err....   Hmm....
[15:33] <yakuzi> problem seems to be solved...(i added a folder  /media/data, maybe that did the trick) i hope it is solved..Even after next reboot
[15:33] <Dr_willis> I cant think of a good example horriable enough  :)
[15:33] <Lardarse> ok... since that didn't do what i expected it to: is there any reason why gutsy would be able to automatically detect (and use) a video mode that hardy hasn't automatically detected?
[15:34] <Dr_willis> hardy is using a minimal-auto-confioguring X  feature/method.  that often gets things wrong.
[15:34] <Lardarse> Dr_willis: hmm?
[15:34] <Dr_willis> gutsy detects stuff and makes a xorg.conf   hardy has a newer X that dont work the same way
[15:35] <Dr_willis> compare the xorg.conf file from gutsy, with one from hardy. The one in hardy is  missing a great many   entries.
[15:35] <Lardarse> that might explain why sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't do what i hoped it would
[15:35] <ubuntu_> Salut
[15:35] <crazy_bus> so I can create a apt cd with dpkg-scanpackages and it will put every package I have installed into a file?
[15:35] <Dr_willis> Lardarse,  You got it. that command dont really do much in hardy any more.
[15:35] <ubuntu_> anyone could help me
[15:35] <Lardarse> !ask | ubuntu_
[15:36] <ubuntu_> ok, so amarok can't play mp3
[15:36] <Dr_willis> mine can.
[15:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[15:36] <Lardarse> ubuntu_: i asked that question in here about 8 hours ago...
[15:36] <ubuntu_> i must download something but i don't know where (i'm a neewbie, i have installed kubuntu for a few minutes)
[15:36] <Lardarse> let me see if i can find the answer
[15:36] <Dr_willis> install kubuntu-restricted-extras package ?
[15:37] <ubuntu_> (i also realize that my keyboard dont do any point or others things -_-)
[15:37] <Lardarse> Dr_willis: yes, but there was a bot response, which is just outside of 1500 lines of scrollback
[15:38] <Lardarse> !restricted
[15:38] <Lardarse> good guess :-)
[15:38] <ubuntu_> ok thanks
[15:38] <ubuntu_> i'm going to read that
[15:39] <crazy_bus> thanks for everyones answers.  I have to go and I need to restart my login for a program I'm installing
[15:39] <Lardarse> Dr_willis: so how do i look into enabling the screen resolutions that i had ~ 6 hours ago?
[15:42] <uga> hi there, is anybody having issues with usbfs? somehow I get errors like "[ 1293.741734] usb 5-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110" or  [  495.016077] scsi 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Sense not available.
[15:42] <uga> it used to work fine on this box in the past, so I wonder what happenned, either hal changes or kernel changes...
[15:42] <uga> something is very broken here
[15:42] <ubuntu_> where can i see quiclky which version of ubuntu i have ,
[15:44] <TheGentleman> If I insert a music CD in my PC running Kubuntu Hardy, the usual pop-up comes out offering several choices. I choose "Play with Amarock"  but nothing happens!!
[15:45] <Lardarse> ubuntu_: usually with uname, but i forget which option you need
[15:45] <uga> Lardarse: that will show the kernel build
[15:45] <uga> (uname -a)
[15:45] <uga> but not the distribution he installed
[15:45] <TheGentleman> so I went to see the properties from the  Audio CD icon on the desktop, and what i read really puzzles me:
[15:46] <Lardarse> uga: then i donm't know.. perhaps look for specific files?
[15:47] <TheGentleman> The "general" tab reports it mounted on /media  while Extended information reports it as /dev/scd0
[15:47] <uga> ubuntu_: cat /etc/lsb-release
[15:47] <uga> Lardarse: ^^
[15:48] <Lardarse> uga: noted
[15:48] <techbw> hi all
[15:48] <Ghittsum> good morning
[15:49] <TheGentleman> How the hell do I play an AudioCD using Kubuntu Hardy?
[15:49] <uga> arf, the issue is as old as shit https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/102044
[15:51] <techbw> when I want to change network settings, I go to system settings, network, and click administrate, but system does not bring up the administrative password box...what could be the cause for this?
[15:51] <techbw> at the moment I have to edit the network config files manually for the settings to be saved for bootup, but would like the GUI administration working.
[15:54] <biopod> hi everyone
[15:54] <biopod> anyone from Denmark?
[15:54] <techbw> hi biopod
[15:54] <TheGentleman> What do I need to play an AudioCD using Kubuntu hardy?  I'm not able to play it, while mp3 files are played as expected
[15:55] <Lardarse> !dk | biopod
[15:55] <Lardarse> TheGentleman: what's the error?
[15:55] <siofwolves> TheGentleman, have you tried Amorak?
[15:55] <techbw> if you have an audio cd, make sure you have your audio cable pluged into you cd rom...that cable must also be pluged into your motherboard, or your sound card if you have pci sound card
[15:56] <TheGentleman> of course i did... Amarok plays any mp3 or ogg file i have
[15:56] <biopod> actaully, i dont speak danish, just wanted to see if there was someone from Denmark to ask him something, but I'll go as there.
[15:56] <TheGentleman> my problem is that it seems that i can't mount an Audio CD
[15:57] <Lardarse> biopod: i won't ask whast the last sentence (about english) was, then :-)
[15:58] <TimS> Can K3B split files over multiple disks? If I ask it to burn my music collection to DVDs, will it know to put the first 4.1 gig on one disk, then the next 4.1gig on a second disk?
[15:59] <crazy_bus> I need firefox-2 for a extension.  I had it installed but a few minutes ago firefox-3 was installed when I installed mythbuntu-desktop.  Now my firefox-2 is missing all extension menus and the back/forward buttons.  How can I get it back to normal?
[16:02] <TheGentleman> How do I mount an Audio CD to play it ?
[16:02] <techbw> TheGentleman: http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=4588675 check this site out
[16:02] <techbw> might help
[16:03] <TheGentleman> thanks techbw
[16:03] <jmichaelx> is anyone else just experiencing random temporary freezes in hardy?
[16:04] <sivaji> jmichaelx no
[16:06] <techbw> TheGentleman: no problem.
[16:07] <daniftodi> !ro
[16:08] <theunixgeek> If I install the kde4 package in Ubuntu, will I get KDE 4.0.4 (the latest version)?
[16:09] <Jucato> theunixgeek: http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php
[16:10] <theunixgeek> Jucato: thanks :)
[16:10] <theunixgeek> thanks for the info :
[16:10] <theunixgeek> :)
[16:17] <daniftodi> !ro
[16:18] <daniftodi> !ro
[16:18] <daniftodi> !ro
[16:31] <fidelio> hi. quick question for my printer.  Test page goes through.  But cannot print any doc
[16:32] <JoshOvki> fidelio: make sure that the program you are using is pointed to the printer and not to a pdf writer
[16:33] <fidelio> josh: I can see the preview and select the proper printer..but nothing happens
[16:33] <JoshOvki> fidelio: have you restarted since installing the printer
[16:34] <fidelio> yes
[16:34] <JoshOvki> fidelio: which program?
[16:34] <lumm> nutzt hier jemand karamba mit liquid weather++?
[16:34] <lumm> wie bekomm ich den °F in °C ?
[16:34] <fidelio> joh.: any text editor
[16:34] <lumm> ups wrong chan
[16:34] <lumm> :D
[16:37] <JoshOvki> fidelio: which ones have you tried? and have you tryed a very basic file with like "test" written in it?
[16:38] <fidelio> josh. For example, office, gedit and yes...simple text tried.  Again, test page is perfect
[16:40] <JoshOvki> so just one file isnt printing?
[16:43] <JoshOvki> fidelio: you can see if any errors happen when trying to print over commmand with      lp
[16:43] <JoshOvki> also what printer is it?
[16:43] <fidelio> josh.  nothing get printed.
[16:43] <fidelio> not familiar with direct command..can you elaborate?
[16:44] <fidelio> canon PIXMA ip 6600d
[16:44] <fidelio> cups find the printer and everythign seems to be setup correctly
[16:48] <fidelio> josh. I wonder where the docs I am tryingto print end  up.
[16:48] <JoshOvki> fidelio: very odd problem. i cant find any sort of relevent data about this problem
[16:48] <JoshOvki> yeh i do to
[16:49] <JoshOvki> not making duplicates in the folder the file is saved in does it?
[16:49] <fidelio> I serached the web extensively before joing this chat and i could not find anythign either
[16:50] <JoshOvki> fidelio: i found one thread that matches the problem but no one posted a solution
[16:51] <sparr__> how can i configure aptitude to function more like apt-get, in terms of which packages to add/remove?
[16:51] <PhilRod> fidelio: is /tmp full? I saw a similar problem when that happened on one system
[16:53] <PhilRod> fidelio: can you print using lpr on the command line? (lpr some_simple_text_file)
[16:53] <JoshOvki> sparr__: why not just use apt-get ?
[16:53] <sivaji> use http://localhost:/631 for webased interface
[16:54] <sivaji> sorry  http://localhost:631
[16:54] <llutz> sparr__: why would you like to castrate aptitude?
[16:54] <sparr__> llutz: because its trying to remove hundreds of packages
[16:54] <sparr__> JoshOvki: i want to try out aptitude for a while
[16:55] <Simonft> when trying to install koffice and running cmakekde, i get bash: cmakekde: command not found
[16:56] <fidelio> phi: not sure how to see if /tmp is full
[16:57] <fidelio> phil: will try with lpr
[16:57] <llutz> fidelio: "df -h /tmp"
[16:58] <sparr__> llutz: apt-get dist-upgrade wants to install 14 packages and upgrade 104.  aptitude dist-upgrade wants to install 34, upgrade 112, and *uninstall* 221, and i really like some of those 221
[16:58] <fidelio> tmp 61% used
[16:59] <stuq> morning all
[16:59] <Jucato> sparr__: by default, aptitude will install (merely) recommended packages as if they were necessary. using -R will turn that off
[16:59] <stuq> is there some know difficulty with add a user in kubuntu hardy?
[16:59] <llutz> sparr__: first set "Aptitude::Recommends-Important "false";" in ~/.aptitude/config
[16:59] <stuq> I'm using kuser.. and having all sorts of problems
[16:59] <Jucato> oh there :)
[16:59] <sparr__> fidelio: depending on the size of your /tmp you might be worried about 61%...  if its a 5GB tmp then a single dvd image to be burned could cause that.   next do "du -sc /tmp/* | sort -n"
[16:59] <crazy_bus> I need firefox-2 for a extension.  I had it installed but a few minutes ago firefox-3 was installed when I installed mythbuntu-desktop.  Now my firefox-2 is missing all extension menus and the back/forward buttons.  How can I get it back to normal?
[16:59] <Simonft> when trying to install koffice and running cmakekde, i get bash: cmakekde: command not found
[17:00] <stdin> Simonft: you need http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts/.bashrc
[17:00] <sparr__> Jucato: -R does not affect the uninstall count.  it cuts out half the new installs, which i dont really care about.
[17:00] <fidelio> phil: lpr works
[17:00] <Simonft> stdin: bash: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts/.bashrc: No such file or directory
[17:00] <sparr__> crazy_bus: there is a decent chance that your firefox profile is updated, and youll have to start over to use FF2 again
[17:01] <sparr__> afk hours
[17:01] <stdin> Simonft: it's a website, open it in a browser
[17:01] <Jucato> sparr__: oh I thought you were talking about installing (which was in your example). yeah aptitude tries to be "smart" in that way...
[17:01] <Simonft> stdin: i am an idiot, just relized that. :)
[17:02] <crazy_bus> sparr__: I still have my profile.  I  just don't know which files to delete to reconstuct the menus
[17:03] <fidelio> sparr. done it du -sc /tmp/* | sort -n...now what?
[17:03] <llutz> sparr__: http://www.garfieldtech.com/blog/your-debian-aptitude#comment-210
[17:03] <Haemogoblin> hey there
[17:04] <Haemogoblin> any of you dudes telll me how i installed a downloaded app in linux
[17:04] <JoshOvki> Haemogoblin: depends what format the app is
[17:05] <Haemogoblin> i've just downloaded zinf
[17:05] <Haemogoblin> from their website
[17:06] <axel> Haemogoblin: Which package version? Debs? RPMs? Source Code?
[17:06] <bascule> it is source, you would need to build it
[17:06] <bascule> there seems to be no debs or rpms there
[17:07] <axel> bascule: really? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=51494
[17:07] <BluesKaj> Haemogoblin, what's the app and file xtn ?
[17:07] <Haemogoblin> one second
[17:07] <Haemogoblin> sorry someone was phoned
[17:07] <Haemogoblin> lol
[17:08] <Haemogoblin> right
[17:08] <Haemogoblin> ok
[17:08] <Haemogoblin> erm how do i determine what it is?
[17:08] <bascule> does it finish tar.gz or .rpm
[17:09] <axel> Haemogoblin:  what's the character sequence after the last dot in the filename?
[17:09] <Haemogoblin> gz
[17:09] <Haemogoblin> zinf-2.2.5.tar.gz
[17:10] <bascule> I guess you have you never compiled source code before
[17:10] <axel> Haemogoblin: Then the insallation rule of three should be a good idea.
[17:10] <Haemogoblin> ??
[17:10] <Haemogoblin> i've been using kubuntu for 3 days
[17:10] <Haemogoblin> just learning
[17:10] <Haemogoblin> sorry :(
[17:11] <bascule> do you really *need* this articular app?
[17:11] <JoshOvki> Haemogoblin: extract the documents like you would a .zip and read the INSTALL file
[17:11] <Haemogoblin> i have
[17:11] <bascule> there are so many good players in kubuntu already
[17:11] <axel> Haemogoblin: That's OK. "So far no master fell from the skys."
[17:11] <Haemogoblin> :D
[17:11] <Haemogoblin> well i heard zinf was a good player
[17:11] <Haemogoblin> low on resources
[17:11] <axel> Haemogoblin: Did you already extract the archive?
[17:11] <BluesKaj> Haemogoblin, in the terminal/konsole type, or copy and paste this,  tar -xvzf zinf-2.2.5.tar.gz
[17:11] <fidelio> sparr: what du -sc /tmp/* | sort -n does?
[17:12] <Haemogoblin> and the one that comes in kubuntu doesn't like some of my mp3's
[17:12] <axel> Haemogoblin: You mean Amarok?
[17:12] <Haemogoblin> yes
[17:12] <PhilRod> fidelio: ok - did you try the test page from localhost:631?
[17:13] <axel> Haemogoblin: Wait, I'm looking up a package name.
[17:13] <Haemogoblin> ok
[17:13] <PhilRod> (fidelio: btw, hit tab to get my full nickname, then it'll highlight and I'll know you're talking to me)
[17:13] <Haemogoblin> that command
[17:13] <Haemogoblin>  tar -xvzf zinf-2.2.5.tar.gz
[17:13] <ubuntu> hello. the live cd (which i am in right now) detects my video card as being 800x600, but it actually is 1024x768. how do I fix this? (is there an automated way to do this?)
[17:13] <Haemogoblin> wasn't found
[17:13] <axel> Haemogoblin: Now let's start.
[17:14] <Haemogoblin> okies
[17:14] <Haemogoblin> woop!
[17:14] <Haemogoblin> :D
[17:14] <axel> Haemogoblin: at least I think that's the right package. As far as I know it is.
[17:14] <damian__> Hi:P
[17:14] <axel> Haemogoblin: start a console.
[17:14] <Haemogoblin> done
[17:14] <Haemogoblin> :D
[17:15] <fidelio> PhilRod: 631 test page works great
[17:15] <axel> Haemogoblin: then type: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:16] <axel> Haemogoblin: It will install some programs like flash and as I think the support for MP3.
[17:16] <PhilRod> fidelio: ok, let's move up one step and try kprinter. Run "kprinter" from the run command dialog (Alt+F2)
[17:16] <damian__> Who LovE LinuX ????
[17:17] <PhilRod> damian__: certainly none of the people here, who are using their spare time to help other people with their linux problems
[17:17] <bascule> :)
[17:17] <Haemogoblin> ok
[17:18] <axel> Haemogoblin: Did it work?
[17:18] <Haemogoblin> i've got the restricted extra's installed
[17:18] <Haemogoblin> well
[17:18] <Haemogoblin> i had the extra's installed already
[17:18] <Haemogoblin> i can play mp3s
[17:18] <Haemogoblin> just not all of them
[17:18] <Haemogoblin> the stock player will skip some albums randomly
[17:19] <Haemogoblin> just skipping each track
[17:19] <axel> Haemogoblin: What's the difference between the MP3s you can play and those you can't.
[17:19] <Haemogoblin> i have no idea
[17:19] <Haemogoblin> they are both mp3 format
[17:19] <PhilRod> fidelio: if you expand the options button there, you'll see a list of files to be printed, so add something simple there
[17:19] <Haemogoblin> they worked in XP
[17:19] <Haemogoblin> i was hoping using another player might solve the problem
[17:20] <Haemogoblin> is there such a thing as a codec bundle for linux?
[17:20] <Haemogoblin> to support mp2/3/4, xvid ect ect
[17:20] <axel> Haemogoblin: there are some packages that should fix that. Wait. I'll see wether I can figure out which.
[17:22] <fidelio> PhilRod: cannot open kprinter says "The location or file could not be found"
[17:22] <axel> Haemogoblin: Let's try "sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg" on the command line.
[17:22] <Haemogoblin> i'd REALLY be greatful if someone cud explain how i installed apps that i've downloaded..it's not exactly clear
[17:22] <Haemogoblin> lol
[17:23] <fidelio> PhilRod: i need to istalll kprinter
[17:23] <PhilRod> fidelio: that's weird. I thought it was installed as part of kdebase
[17:24] <axel> Haemogoblin: Did this package work?
[17:24] <Haemogoblin> installing
[17:24] <Haemogoblin> erm
[17:24] <PhilRod> fidelio: just checking what package installs it
[17:24] <Haemogoblin> Reading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... Donelibxine1-ffmpeg is already the newest version.0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:25]  * bascule suspects medibuntu as an answer
[17:25] <axel> Haemogoblin: strange.
[17:25] <Haemogoblin> :S
[17:25] <Haemogoblin> it is why i wanted to try another player
[17:26] <Haemogoblin> i dont know how good the one that comes with linux is against others
[17:26] <bascule> amarok is superb IMO
[17:27] <axel> Haemogoblin: It is said that Amarok is one of the best music player.
[17:27] <Haemogoblin> ook
[17:27] <axel> Haemogoblin: You got some problems with codecs, not with Amarok.
[17:27] <JoshOvki> xmms is a good small player
[17:27] <Haemogoblin> ok
[17:28] <bascule> try medibuntu sources
[17:28] <bascule> !medibuntu
[17:28] <PhilRod> Haemogoblin: for the vast majority of apps, you'll want to install them using packages specially prepared for (k)ubuntu, which you can do using adept. Occasionally you'll need to install apps from outside the package repositories, and then all bets are off
[17:28] <axel> Haemogoblin: Do you speak German? http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Codecs#head-183b9d6088dd54ac5ce74ee1c92e28ddd2ac70a0
[17:28] <stuq> anyone have advice on adding a newuser in hardy?  I'm using kuser and getting only partial results
[17:28] <Haemogoblin> erm nope sadly i dont
[17:28] <Haemogoblin> lol
[17:28] <bascule> stuq: what is working
[17:29] <PhilRod> fidelio: looks like the package you need is kdeprint
[17:29] <bascule> and what isn't
[17:29] <axel> Haemogoblin: OK, then let's go through the packages.
[17:29] <stuq> bascule: I've added a user in kuser, matched groups to my own
[17:29] <fidelio> PhilRod: kprinter+file opens gedit.  I see the text but printer does not work
[17:29] <libben> I just got myself a EEE pc 900, its not here right now. But i was wondering if i can install Kubuntu 8.04 (KDE 4 Remix) on it. and do i need to get myself a external reader for cds or can i install it from the linux version that comes wit it?
[17:29] <Haemogoblin> okies
[17:29] <Haemogoblin> :D
[17:29] <stuq> bascule: but on trying to log in, i'm getting complaints about kconfigstartup missing
[17:30] <stuq> and x will hang totally
[17:30] <Haemogoblin> have to admit installing stuff without adept seems confusing
[17:30] <stuq> i'm rsync'
[17:30] <fidelio> PhilRod: correct -- I istalled kdeprint successfully
[17:30] <Haemogoblin> i've not managed it yet
[17:30] <stuq> ing my user dir to the new user
[17:30] <stuq> just to catch anything i'm missing
[17:30] <bascule> not a good idea to copy it all
[17:30] <PhilRod> Haemogoblin: yes, you'll generally want to avoid it except in very special cases
[17:30] <stuq> brand new install, so nothing extra there
[17:30] <axel> Haemogoblin: libxine1-bin, libxvidcore4, libxine1-plugins, ibquicktime1
[17:30] <PhilRod> package management is your friend
[17:30] <bascule> stuq: there are unique session id things that will cause conflicts acros users
[17:31] <PhilRod> fidelio: sorry, I didnt' quite understand - when does it open gedit?
[17:31] <stuq> bascule: hmm. ok
[17:31] <stuq> bascule: have you added a user on a hardy install yet?
[17:31] <bascule> are you just trying to change a user name? are you cloning an enviroment for a second user?
[17:31] <Haemogoblin> philrod ?? i find them using adept yes?
[17:31] <bascule> stuq: well I do things ols style a lot of the time
[17:31] <bascule> useradd usermod and so on
[17:32] <stuq> bascule: my first need was just a new user, but when that didn't work i fell back to a cloning attempt
[17:32] <bascule> just what I know
[17:32] <bascule> ok
[17:32] <fidelio> PhilRod: alt +f2, type kprinter , select file.  then gedit opens the text file
[17:32] <PhilRod> Haemogoblin: right - always try adept first.
[17:32] <libben> anyone regarding my issue a bit up?
[17:32] <stuq> bascule: ols?  you mean cls?
[17:32] <bascule> old*
[17:32] <stuq> so, add user?
[17:32] <bascule> well not yet :)
[17:33] <stuq> i'm fine with command line, but i'm just more used to the freebsd way for this
[17:33] <PhilRod> fidelio: that's weird. Here it adds the file to the list of files in the bottom half of the dialog
[17:33] <axel> Haemogoblin: actually installing packages with the use of command line  is more efficient - at least in my opinion. And that's the key point: Opinions differ. ;)
[17:34] <PhilRod> axel: ah, yes - I often prefer the command line too, but I think we *definitely* agree on the benefits of package management
[17:34] <bascule> stuq: and the error was kconfigstartup?
[17:34] <Xanatos> sigh wubi still wont work
[17:34] <stuq> well, that was the most recent error i stopped with
[17:35] <stuq> kuser didn't want to make a shell at first
[17:35] <bascule> ok
[17:35] <stuq> took several attempts for it to accept /bin/bash
[17:35] <stuq> and no home dir was made
[17:35] <bascule> and copy skeleton was enabled
[17:35] <stuq> so i did that on cl
[17:35] <stuq> looking..
[17:35] <axel> PhilRod: Isn't apt a package managenemt programm? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool
[17:36] <rebecca> anyone else encountered complete system freezing with kubuntu 8.04 + firefox (2 or 3) + flash from restricted?
[17:36] <bascule> stuq: I am looking at kuser now, on the first atb it has 2 tick boxes at the bottom
[17:36] <PhilRod> fidelio: just to check we're looking at the same thing, this is what I have here http://users.ox.ac.uk/~chri1802/stuff/kprinter.png
[17:36] <bascule> atb/tab
[17:36] <stuq> bascule: yes, copy skeleton enabled
[17:36] <stuq> it is by default
[17:36] <stuq> and i didn't change it
[17:36] <bascule> It also has account disabled ticked for some reason
[17:36] <stuq> yes, noticed that, and enabled it
[17:37] <Haemogoblin> soo how do i use the command line?
[17:37] <bascule> ok
[17:37] <PhilRod> axel: yes. I think one of us is confused. I'm just saying that package management, apt or anything else, is almost always better than installing from source or from random .debs from websites
[17:37] <Haemogoblin> to install those files
[17:37] <Haemogoblin> :S
[17:37] <axel> Haemogoblin: Did it work?
[17:37] <axel> PhilRod: fully ACK.
[17:38] <bascule> stuq: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto <-- try that
[17:38] <Haemogoblin> well someone was saying i should use the command line
[17:38] <Haemogoblin> i dont know how!
[17:39] <Haemogoblin> i mean, i know where it is
[17:39] <stuq> bascule: I wonder if I just had a 'hiccup' in kuser... just trying to add another user, and I noticed that the UID wasn't automatically set in my first attempt
[17:39] <bascule> odd
[17:39] <stuq> that was something I had to edit, which didn't seem right
[17:39] <Haemogoblin> but i dont know the actual commands i have to insert
[17:39] <stuq> bascule: yes, thanks, have that faq already
[17:39] <ubuntu> hello. I was wondering why, when I use the vesa driver, the fonts are smaller than when using the nvidia driver...
[17:39] <axel> Haemogoblin: When I wrote use the command line I wanted to say that you open the console.
[17:39] <stuq> i'm just gonna do a do-over
[17:40] <Haemogoblin> :D
[17:40] <Haemogoblin> soo how do i add those files using the command line?
[17:40] <stuq> bascule: thanks for the suggestions
[17:40] <fidelio> PhilRod: i tried again krpinter and managed to attach a file. I got this message:"
[17:40] <fidelio> The file format text/plain is not directly supported by the current print system. You now have 3 options:
[17:40] <fidelio> KDE can attempt to convert this file automatically to a supported format. (Select Convert)
[17:40] <fidelio> You can try to send the file to the printer without any conversion. (Select Keep)
[17:40] <fidelio> You can cancel the printjob. (Select Cancel)
[17:40] <fidelio> Do you want KDE to attempt and convert this file to application/postscript?
[17:40] <axel> Haemogoblin: installing packages (from repositories) goes like this: sudo apt-get install <name of packages here separated with a space character>
[17:40] <bascule> stuq: welcome, it is rather easy in the whole to add a user, seems the gui ways are perhaps a little lacking at sane defaults
[17:41] <fidelio> PhilRod: if i click on convert printer works
[17:41] <stuq> bascule: so, you are just using useradd?
[17:41] <axel> Haemogoblin: "sudo" executes the command as a super user (admin in the Windows world).
[17:41] <bascule> I do when I add users yes
[17:41] <stuq> k, i'll give that a try
[17:41] <stuq> thanks
[17:41] <axel> Haemogoblin: "apt-get" is the programm you use.
[17:41] <PhilRod> fidelio: not supporting text/plain sounds very weird. What does kprinter say for "print system curently used"?
[17:42] <Haemogoblin> so...
[17:42] <Haemogoblin> ah
[17:42] <bascule> stuq: just pay attention the the groups, you could copy them from /etc/shadow and bear in mind it is the admin group that allows sudo access
[17:42] <Haemogoblin> sudu adept-get  libxine1-bin?
[17:42] <axel> Haemogoblin: "install" is the option you need to install packages. There are other ones like update, upgrade, clean, autoremove, ...
[17:42] <bascule> stuq: when I say copy, I mean make them the same as the other user
[17:43] <axel> Haemogoblin: sudo apt-get install libxine1-bin
[17:43] <c-ron> what is the process named that launches the kde interface? and, is it the same name for kde 4?
[17:43] <stuq> bascule: yes, thanks, i get it.  This is all slightly different in bsd, so I have to
[17:43] <stuq> 'unlearn'
[17:43] <fidelio> PhilRod: CUPS
[17:43] <axel> Haemogoblin: sudo not sudu
[17:43] <Haemogoblin> lol
[17:43] <axel> Haemogoblin: apt-get not adept-get
[17:43] <Haemogoblin> soffh
[17:43] <Haemogoblin> sorry
[17:43] <Haemogoblin> hehe
[17:43] <axel> Haemogoblin: the option install was missing.
[17:44] <Haemogoblin> sudo apt-get install  libxine1-bin
[17:44] <Haemogoblin> yes?
[17:44] <axel> Haemogoblin: No problem. Back in DOS days I had also trouble with the commands at first. ;)
[17:44] <axel> Haemogoblin: Yes.
[17:44] <Haemogoblin> i'm actaully good with dos
[17:44] <Haemogoblin> well used to be until bill gates killed it
[17:44] <Haemogoblin> :(
[17:45] <axel> Haemogoblin: Just other commands. ;)
[17:45] <axel> Haemogoblin: He also established it.
[17:46] <c-ron> hi, what is the name of the process that launches the kde interface? and, is it the same name for kde 4? i'm asking because i have no UI tho x loads
[17:46] <Haemogoblin> apparently  libxine1-bin, is already instealld
[17:46] <bascule> c-ron: startkde
[17:46] <axel> Haemogoblin: a little hint: If you want to see some options, ect. of a command you can type: man <command>
[17:46] <axel> Haemogoblin: q exits the "reader".
[17:46] <uga> guys, anybody knows how to enable boot logs?
[17:47] <llutz> uga enable it in /etc/default/bootlogd
[17:47] <uga> llutz: tried that. this is about silly already, I'm supposed to have /etc/default/bootlogd thing enabled, bootlogd is enabled as default service...
[17:48] <uga> adn yet the boot log is empty
[17:48] <Haemogoblin> thanks for the tip
[17:48] <axel> Haemogoblin: to accellerate the package installation: sudo apt-get install libxine1-bin libxvidcore4 libxine1-plugins ibquicktime1
[17:48] <axel> Haemogoblin: Delete those packages you have already installed in the command I posted above.
[17:48] <Haemogoblin> Reading package lists... DoneBuilding dependency treeReading state information... Donelibxine1-bin is already the newest version.E: Couldn't find package ibquicktime1
[17:48] <c-ron> i get the message "KDE seems to be already running on this display." when i run startkde. no panels are being displayed.
[17:49] <axel> Haemogoblin: This package is used to play quicktime-videos.
[17:49] <Haemogoblin> right soo looks like they are all installed
[17:49] <llutz> UGA "locate bootlogd"
[17:50] <axel> Haemogoblin:  libquicktime1 would be the right name. Sorry. My mistake.
[17:50] <uga> llutz: /etc/default/bootlogd, /etc/init.d/bootlogd, /etc/init.d/stop-bootlogd and /etc/init.d/stop-bootlogd-single
[17:51] <llutz> uga: so no daemon present, install sysvinit
[17:51] <Haemogoblin> right
[17:51] <axel> Haemogoblin: Do the MP3s work?
[17:51] <Haemogoblin> one second i'll test
[17:52] <uga> llutz: lol, I had tried apt-get ing bootlogd, but given I had not found it I thought it was part of some base system install. How on earth was there a service and not the daemon? thanks man =)
[17:52] <Nemesis02> good morning everyone :) got a bit of a library conflict with glib here, wondering if anyone could help.
[17:52] <bascule> c-ron: well try killing X with ctrl+alt+bksp and do it again at the login-screen, NOTE: it will kill X straight away
[17:52] <llutz> uga: one of those ubuntu-things.... nobody knows
[17:53] <uga> llutz: btw, I thought now the startup wasn't really sysv5
[17:53] <Nemesis02> I keep getting this error msg when i try to do ./configure on an application: http://nopaste.us/126
[17:53] <llutz> uga: i guess it is somewhat between sysV and...
[17:53] <uga> heh
[17:53] <uga> anyway, rebooting
[17:54] <Haemogoblin> nope it's doesnt work
[17:54] <Nemesis02> does anyone know howto fix that problem?
[17:56] <Haemogoblin> maybe the files are currupt
[17:56] <Haemogoblin> just wonder how i install zinf
[17:57] <axel> Haemogoblin: extract it,
[17:57] <axel> Hae
[17:57] <axel> Haemogoblin: go to that directory (command line).
[17:57] <llutz> Haemogoblin: aptitude install zinf
[17:58] <axel> Haemogoblin: Hey Zinf is in the Kubuntu repositories.
[17:58] <axel> Haemogoblin: I did not know that.
[17:58] <axel> Haemogoblin: sudo apt-get install zinf
[17:58] <llutz> it should be 1st look before start compiling something
[17:59] <Haemogoblin> the files are on my desktop if you can call it that
[17:59] <Haemogoblin> how do i navigate to my desktop in the command line
[17:59] <llutz> cd ~/Desktop
[18:00] <stuq> bascule:no add user joy yet... I should mention that this is the 'kde4 remix' version of kubuntu hardy, so there may be some unresolved issues
[18:00] <bascule> possibly, i really wish I had a definitive answer for you
[18:00] <stuq> bascule: though you would think that adding a user was pretty basic to the functionality of a release
[18:00] <stuq> so, kstartupconfig4... i'm researching that
[18:00] <bascule> that is not one I know
[18:01] <stuq>   /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kstartupconfig4
[18:01] <bascule> ok
[18:01] <stuq> that's what it needs, at this point
[18:01] <bascule> is it a shell script?
[18:01] <stuq> binary file, not sure yet
[18:01] <axel> Haemogoblin: a little explaination of llutz's command: "cd ~" takes you to your home-directory, e.g. /home/Haemogoblin/
[18:02] <Haemogoblin> right
[18:03] <stuq> bascule: this might be a clue:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=669360
[18:03] <stuq> trying that... have to reboot, for some reason, my install doesn't like 'logging out' either ;-(
[18:03] <bascule> so there is some kde 3/4 conflicts then
[18:04] <fidelio> PhilRod: I assume you ran out of ideas
[18:04] <PhilRod> fidelio: yeah, sorry. Got a bit distracted. Um, what were the apps where printing didn't work?
[18:10] <fidelio> PhilRod: gedit, office
[18:11] <BluesKaj> Haemogoblin, you will nedd to add the medibuntu repositories,where you can then install these using adept :  libk3b2-mp3, libxine1-ffmpeg, and libdvdcss2
[18:11] <PhilRod> hrm, perhaps they're not using cups. I'm not really familiar with how non-kde applications print stuff. You could see if they have a setting for what "print command" to use, and set that to "kprinter"
[18:11] <Haemogoblin> soo where do i find that matey?
[18:12] <Haemogoblin> i'm just struggling with installing zinf
[18:12] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | Haemogoblin
[18:12] <Haemogoblin> from my desktio
[18:12] <PhilRod> fidelio: if that doesn't work, you could try asking in one of the applications' cahnnels
[18:13] <axel> Haemogoblin: Which version of Kubuntu are you using? (Hardy Heron/ 8.04)?
[18:13] <fidelio> PhilRod: ok, thanks
[18:14] <BluesKaj> Haemogoblin, oce you are athe medibuntu site use the "howto" .
[18:14] <BluesKaj> once
[18:15] <Haemogoblin> ok thanks
[18:15] <Haemogoblin> :D
[18:15] <thyko> Haemogoblin: what you trying to do?
[18:15] <heroicwisdom> Hi, i am haveing some troble installing a ralink wifi device in kubuntu 8.04. I have compiled the driver, but i do not think that linux is assiotatiing the driver to the device, can somebody help me with this?
[18:15] <thyko> heroicwisdom: use ndiswrapper
[18:16] <Haemogoblin> i
[18:16] <Haemogoblin> why is it that i can't get into a dir called zinf-2.2.5
[18:16] <Haemogoblin> when i type cd /zinf-2.2.5
[18:16] <thyko> Haemogoblin: remove /
[18:16] <llutz> Haemogoblin: forget that, install zinf from repo: "sudo aptitude install zinf"
[18:16] <llutz> thyko: stop telling shit!
[18:17] <thyko> llutz: blow me
[18:17] <heroicwisdom> i can not get the the windows driver, the winodws installer is not a cab, or zip file
[18:17] <BluesKaj> !ops | thyko
[18:17] <axel> llutz: he means that the character "/" should be deleted.
[18:18] <Haemogoblin> thanks mate
[18:18] <Haemogoblin> installing now
[18:18] <Haemogoblin> i'd still like to know where i was going wrong
[18:19] <BluesKaj> we get jerks here with malicicous advice very rarely, but it does happen
[18:20] <Haemogoblin> :(
[18:21] <BluesKaj> Haemogoblin, which distro are you running hardy 8.04 ?
[18:21] <heinkel_111> BluesKaj:  that does not really look like malicious advice
[18:21] <bascule> I think he was not saying remove the top-level dir, he was saying to not use the / in the command
[18:21] <Haemogoblin> the one thats up on the site
[18:21] <heinkel_111> he did not mean the root directory
[18:21] <BluesKaj> I thought at first he was telling him to remove /
[18:22] <bascule> it looks like it at a glompse
[18:22] <bascule> glimpse, but tied together it makes more sense
[18:22] <heinkel_111> yes I agree it is possible to misunderstand, but I really doubt it was malicious
[18:22] <heinkel_111> just unfortunate and not cautious
[18:22] <Haemogoblin> crikey....the console is case sensitive??
[18:22] <Haemogoblin> thats something dos wasn't
[18:22] <Haemogoblin> :S
[18:22] <bascule> and he reacted badly rather than explaining what he was on about
[18:23] <BluesKaj> so I panicked on the side of caution, besides his attitude sucked with thelanguage
[18:23] <bascule> yes
[18:23] <axel> Haemogoblin: It is case sensitive.
[18:23] <bascule> should be easily sorted, all depends how he conducts himself in -ops really :)
[18:23] <Haemogoblin> i noticed
[18:23] <heroicwisdom> can somebody help me with installing my ralink driver? the driver name is ra2860sta.ko, does anybody have experince with this?
[18:23] <Haemogoblin> i've managed to get in the dir on my desktop now
[18:24] <Haemogoblin> :)
[18:24] <Haemogoblin> woop!
[18:24] <BluesKaj> Haemogoblin, amarok is a great audioplayer by the way
[18:24] <axel> Haemogoblin: Ok. Then the next step.
[18:25] <Haemogoblin> well i've installed it the other way now
[18:25] <Haemogoblin> but at least i know how to do it..
[18:25] <bascule> heroicwisdom: have you modprobed it? does   lsmod | grep ra2860   show it in the kernel
[18:26] <bascule> did any of that make sense? :)
[18:26] <axel> BluesKaj: Some MP3s did not work. So Haemogoblin wants to install an other audio player that should solve the problem.
[18:26] <Haemogoblin> what is aptitude?
[18:26] <axel> Haemogoblin: You mean you installed the player with "sudo apt-get install ..."?
[18:27] <axel> Haemogoblin: Something like apt.
[18:27] <Haemogoblin> yes
[18:27] <Haemogoblin> i used the get command
[18:27] <axel> Haemogoblin: Then there is no need to install it from source.
[18:27] <heroicwisdom> bascule: I jsut ran that command and i see the driver with the feilds 501592 then 0
[18:27] <axel> Haemogoblin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptitude_(program)
[18:27] <Haemogoblin> but it's good to know how to install stuff off the net
[18:28] <Haemogoblin> :D
[18:28] <axel> Haemogoblin: Stop. It's a frontend for apt.
[18:28] <axel> Haemogoblin: Sorry. I was wrong.
[18:28] <bascule> heroicwisdom: ok, i will look a little a what it wants, 5 mins
[18:29] <Haemogoblin> right
[18:29] <Haemogoblin> lol
[18:29] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok thanks for the help
[18:30] <axel> Haemogoblin: Do the MP3s work with the recently installed player?
[18:30] <Haemogoblin> one sec i'm going to check i'm reading up on those addons
[18:30] <Haemogoblin> Medibuntu
[18:31] <Haemogoblin> soo
[18:32] <Haemogoblin> firstly i run this line from the console
[18:32] <Haemogoblin> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[18:32] <bascule> heroicwisdom: looks like an ndiswrapper situation
[18:33] <axel> Haemogoblin: Not quite.
[18:33] <axel> You must tell apt to look there for packages.
[18:34] <heroicwisdom> bascule: i cant get a copy of the driver, the driver comes in a .exe format, and i have no way to extract it
[18:34] <jussi01> !info cabextract
[18:34] <bascule> thanks jussi01
[18:35] <jussi01> :)
[18:35] <axel> axel: Well, for adding a new reository for apt to look at I use the GUI.
[18:35] <axel> axel: K-Menue (Start-Menue in Windows-terms) > System > Adept Manager
[18:36] <heroicwisdom> i have tryed that, i still cant get anything.
[18:37] <bascule> do you have a link to the driver, I will have a go at extracting it here
[18:37] <heroicwisdom> let me see hang on
[18:37] <axel> Haemogoblin: Well, for adding a new reository for apt to look at I use the GUI.
[18:37] <axel> Haemogoblin: K-Menue (Start-Menue in Windows-terms) > System > Adept Manager
[18:37] <Haemogoblin> loading adept
[18:38] <bascule> heroicwisdom: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page <-- you were using that?
[18:38] <axel> Haemogoblin: Then in the menue: Adept > "manage package repositories"
[18:38] <heroicwisdom> http://www.encore-usa.com/product_download.php?region=us&bid=3
[18:38] <Haemogoblin> kk
[18:38] <axel> Haemogoblin: ?? kk ??
[18:39] <bascule> heroicwisdom: which model?
[18:39] <heroicwisdom> no i downloaded the linux driver from a link i saw on the ubuntu forums, the one on the encore website did compile nicely, and th eone on the forums was a bit more recent
[18:40] <bascule> ok
[18:40] <axel> Haemogoblin: Which version of Kubuntu do you use? (Hardy Heron/ 8.04?)
[18:40] <Haemogoblin> i think thats it
[18:40] <heroicwisdom> baclue: im sorry i guess it didnt jump to it, its ENLWI-N
[18:40] <heroicwisdom> http://www.encore-usa.com/download/driver/ENLWI-N_ENPWI-N_Win_Driver.zip
[18:40] <heroicwisdom> thats the dicret link to the driver
[18:41] <axel> Haemogoblin: OK. Let's go further.
[18:41] <Haemogoblin> ok i have the software sources open
[18:42] <Haemogoblin> i have main, uni and multi checked
[18:42] <axel> Haemogoblin: Klick on the tab "Tird-Party Software".
[18:42] <Haemogoblin> right
[18:42] <Haemogoblin> i'm there
[18:42] <axel> Haemogoblin: and than on the button "add".
[18:43] <bascule> heroicwisdom: OK, the linux module is currently in the kernel (lsmod) but iwconfig retirns 'no wireless extensions' ?
[18:43] <Haemogoblin> kk
[18:44] <bascule> that win driver is rather big, some total breakage 'helper' software bundled no doubt :)
[18:44] <axel> Haemogoblin: Then add the following string: deb http://de.packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free
[18:45] <Haemogoblin> done
[18:46] <axel> Haemogoblin: The string must be very precise.
[18:46] <heroicwisdom> bascule: yea the win driver is bloted. iw config returns ra0 and some info but i get a warning it says "Warning: Driver for device ra0 has been compiled with an ancient version of Wireless extention, while this program support version 11 or later some things may be broken"
[18:46] <Haemogoblin> it's been added
[18:46] <axel> Haemogoblin: After Pressing OK. the package list should be reloaded.
[18:46] <Haemogoblin> it's on the list
[18:46] <luisro> hello
[18:46] <Haemogoblin> and ticked
[18:47] <luisro> please somebody speak spanish?
[18:47] <bascule> heroicwisdom: well we are somewhere then, if it sees the card as valid for iwconfig
[18:47] <bascule> !es
[18:48] <axel> Haemogoblin: Close the window and reload the package list.
[18:48] <Haemogoblin> kk
[18:48] <heroicwisdom> bascule: It would seem so. i followed the read me to install the driver, but at a point the readmes instuctions dont work anymore. the readme wants me to run the command /sbin/insmod rt2860sta.ko
[18:48] <axel> Haemogoblin: I made a mistake.
[18:49] <Ayabara_> what's a good jpeg quality level to set in digikam? The default of 75 gives so small files that I'm becoming paraniod
[18:49] <heroicwisdom> bascule: when i run that command the promt returns a file not found erroc for rt2860.ko
[18:49] <bascule> heroicwisdom: it looks lke it is alread there, well it is or you would have no wireless extensions
[18:49] <jussi01> Ayabara_: I usually use 90, but thats just me
[18:49] <heroicwisdom> bascule: well thats good news!
[18:49] <bascule> heroicwisdom: yeah, the insmod/modprobe only looks to certain dirs for modules
[18:50] <Ayabara_> jussi01, ok. I tried 100 as well, but then the file size increased after editing, and that also freaked me out :-)
[18:50] <axel> Haemogoblin: Undo the changes and see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-7486ed038a9becc1dff10a24cc07a38a00d70e9f
[18:50] <bascule> in /lib/modules/<kernel-version>
[18:51] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok i see,  so it loaded the driver properly, but why cant i enable the device? the command lspic returns with a unknown device ralink 0601
[18:51] <heinkel_111> does anyone else experience partial system freeze  with cache turned on in konqueror
[18:51] <heinkel_111> ?
[18:51] <axel> Haemogoblin: Sorry for that. I took the package-repository-link from a german site. Sorry.
[18:51] <Haemogoblin> what??
[18:51] <Haemogoblin> i'm confused
[18:52] <axel> Haemogoblin: Open the Adept manager again.
[18:52] <bascule> heroicwisdom: so now we are gonna try a iwconfig ra0 essid <your network name> key <your key>
[18:52] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok hang on...
[18:52] <Haemogoblin> its still open
[18:52] <bascule> key has to be hex or ascii though, not passphrase
[18:52]  * heinkel_111 reboots to get out of yet another frozen konqeror problem
[18:52] <pulaski> hello, I upgraded from gutsy 7.10 to hh 8.4 yesterday in the online manner using adept.  Now the contents of ~/ appear on the Desktop and the contents of ~/Desktop no longer do.  Is this a new 'feature'?
[18:53] <axel> Haemogoblin: Menue: Adept > Manage repositories
[18:53] <Haemogoblin> want me to remove that link we added
[18:54] <axel> Haemogoblin: yes.
[18:54] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok i got an error, "error for wireless request set essid (8b1a) set failed on device ra0; network is down
[18:54] <Haemogoblin> removied
[18:54] <axel> Haemogoblin: I found that there is an "official" way of adding the repository, I did not know.
[18:54] <dhin> so, after seeing how much firefox 3 can't do, I want to go back to firefox-2, but for some reason a lot of the fonts look terrible in forefox 2, on sites where it looks fine in any other browser
[18:54] <heroicwisdom> bascule: i jsut ran the command iwlist scanning and the device says interface does not support scaning
[18:55] <axel> Haemogoblin: It's described here:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-7486ed038a9becc1dff10a24cc07a38a00d70e9f
[18:55] <dhin> how can I fix the fonts so that I can go back to using firebug, loading pictures normally, etc.?
[18:55] <axel> Haemogoblin: According to this open a Konsole.
[18:55] <bascule> heroicwisdom: is ok, will do that if not associated sometimes
[18:55] <axel> Haemogoblin: and "sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list"
[18:56] <axel> Haemogoblin: after that: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update"
[18:56] <axel> Haemogoblin: Both commands without the " at the beginning and end.
[18:57] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok, also when i go to the knetwork manager, and try to enable the device, it turns on for a second and disables the device
[18:58] <axel> Haemogoblin: Did it work?
[18:58] <Haemogoblin> one sec
[18:59] <bascule> heroicwisdom: it may not work with the manager, some cards don't
[18:59] <Nemesis02> Quick question for everyone, could anyone help fix this problem "*** 'pkg-config --modversion glib-2.0' returned 2.6.6, but GLIB (2.16.3) was found!"  ?  Its popping up when i goto configure the src for an application.
[18:59] <dhin> can anyone help me deal with fonts in firefox-2? They look like crap when I go to certain pages, but when I go to the same page in other browsers (including firefox 3) it looks fine
[18:59] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok, so what next then?
[18:59] <bascule> I had an acx100 in a desktop, just used a little script
[19:00] <bascule> heroicwisdom: well if you know the essid and passphrase we can try iwconfic and dhclient
[19:00] <bascule> iwconfig*
[19:01] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok, i do know both of those, but i get an error when i run the command, am i missing soemthing? what is the excat syntax of the command?
[19:02] <bascule> sudo iwconfig ra0 essid <essid goes here> key <hex of phrase goes here>
[19:02] <dhin> at this rate i think i'm just going to go back to gutsy
[19:02] <bascule> heroicwisdom: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rjoris/wpapsk.html converts passphrases to hes
[19:02] <bascule> hex*
[19:02] <Haemogoblin> ok done
[19:02] <dhin> if that's the only easy way to fix my problem and the other minor stuff i've had to deal with
[19:02] <heroicwisdom> bascule: so do i keep the <> signs? i jsu tdid and i got this error. unexpected token newline
[19:03] <dhin> heroicwisdom: no, don't keep the <>
[19:03] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok i am using WPA2 so that link will convert it?
[19:03] <Itaku> how do i use wireless internet on KDE4?
[19:03] <Itaku> oh wait
[19:03] <Itaku> wrong chan
[19:04] <Haemogoblin> so does that mean those addons are not in the system
[19:04] <bascule> heroicwisdom: hopefully, there will be other methods too
[19:05] <heroicwisdom> ok hang on i am putting in the hex key
[19:05] <Haemogoblin> Axel?
[19:05] <axel> Haemogoblin: Yes.
[19:05] <bascule> heroicwisdom: that page looks a little broken to me :)
[19:05] <Haemogoblin> cool
[19:06] <Haemogoblin> i'll give the player a try
[19:06] <bascule> http://www.corecoding.com/utilities/wep2hex.php :: better one
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> didn't we install zinf?
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> i cant see it on my menu
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> :S
[19:07] <axel> Haemogoblin: The packages (those of medibuntu) are not included in the official repositories because of legal "uncertainties".
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> okies
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> thanks for helping me with em
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> :D
[19:07] <axel> Haemogoblin: I thought you installed it.
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> i did too
[19:07] <Haemogoblin> i can't see it
[19:08] <Haemogoblin> it's not in my multimedia section
[19:08] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok i just ran the command, and go t anetwork is down error
[19:08] <draik> I'm not sure what happened from 7.10 to 8.04, clicking on links in Konversation opens a new FF window with two tabs of the same link. I have FF open and it still opens a new window with two tabs of the same site. It doesn't use the opened FF and open a single tab. How do I fix this?
[19:09] <draik> If I click on a link from Thunderbird, it doesn't do anything. It used to open a new tab in an opened FF.
[19:09] <bascule> heroicwisdom: darn
[19:09] <axel> Haemogoblin: I don't know where to find it. I have not heard of the player until you told about it.
[19:09] <Haemogoblin> lol
[19:09] <heroicwisdom> bascule: han gon let me try the other link you gave me
[19:09] <Haemogoblin> ok
[19:09] <axel> Haemogoblin: But just adding the repository will not help you to solve your problem.
[19:10] <Haemogoblin> oh
[19:10] <uga> lluq
[19:10] <uga> arf
[19:10] <heroicwisdom> bascule: ok it didnt work... :(
[19:10] <axel> Haemogoblin: Adding a repository just means to tell apt that there is a place to look for packages you can install. The right packages must still be installed.
[19:11] <Haemogoblin> right
[19:11] <bascule> heroicwisdom: try just on its own sudo iwconfig ra0 essid <your essid>
[19:12] <bascule> then iwconfig see if it is associated
[19:12] <therion> Hi, i have a problem with gdebi-kde, pratically it doesn't install any packages... how to resolve this?
[19:12] <tht> good evening anyone here who can answer me a question about madwifi and xubuntu ?
[19:12] <Haemogoblin> soo what do you suggest
[19:13] <axel> Haemogoblin: Do you use the 32bit or 64bit version of kubuntu?
[19:13] <heroicwisdom> ok that time i didnt get an error, but it still does not show up under the config
[19:13] <uga> tht: 1) don't ask to ask a question. just ask it 2) xubuntu != kubuntu 3) madwifi should be same on ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu, so as far as you keep yourself off-xubuntu specifics...
[19:13] <Haemogoblin> 32
[19:13] <Haemogoblin> intel
[19:14] <axel> Haemogoblin: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[19:14] <heroicwisdom> bascule: wait a break though! i ran the command iwlist scanning and i can see my router!
[19:15] <Haemogoblin> installing now
[19:15] <bascule> heroicwisdom: awesomes!
[19:15] <axel> Haemogoblin: I found an other reason why you can't play MP3s.
[19:15] <axel> Haemogoblin: A brocken XINE-cashe.
[19:15] <Haemogoblin> oh?
[19:15] <axel> Haemogoblin: rm -f ~/.xine/catalog.cache
[19:16] <axel> Haemogoblin: That deletes the cashe.
[19:16] <heroicwisdom> let me try the iwconfig command setup again, hang on
[19:16] <uga> s/cashe/cache
[19:16] <heroicwisdom> bascule: no still geting an error
[19:16] <tht> uga: is it normal that i have to rmmod ath_pci, insmod ath_pci to be able to create a monitoring device ?
[19:16] <bascule> heroicwisdom: after the iwconfig you then need to run sudo dhclient ra0
[19:16] <Haemogoblin> done
[19:17] <axel> Haemogoblin: After a restart of the affected programs the file is recreated and the problem should be vanished.
[19:17] <axel> Haemogoblin: what? removing or installing?
[19:17] <axel> Haemogoblin: ;)
[19:17] <heroicwisdom> bacule: hang on let me try a reboot
[19:17] <Haemogoblin> i did the last command
[19:17] <uga> tht: don't ask me, I'm no expert, but somebody else here sure knows
[19:17] <draik> How do I shrink the password dots? They are no longer asterisks. They are black dots as big as the password field.
[19:17] <axel> Haemogoblin: Does it work now?
[19:17]  * bascule wonders what'll happen to the modules, and trying to find them
[19:18] <heroicwisdom> bascule: im hopeing for the best..
[19:19] <bascule> me too
[19:19] <Haemogoblin> testing now
[19:19] <heroicwisdom> ok i jsut rebooted let me run those commands again
[19:21] <therion> gdebi-kde doesn't install any deb package and do always in crash... how i can resolve this problem?
[19:23] <heroicwisdom> it seems nothing new happened i cant get a connection
[19:23] <heroicwisdom> but i can now enable the device in the network manger
[19:24] <dotancohen> Anybody know how to target the Firefox window in Compiz?
[19:25] <dotancohen> I need to prevent Firefox from stealing focus whenreading mail in Thunderbird and clicking links. I have this rule in my"Focus Prevention Windows" text field:title="Mozilla Firefox 3 Beta 5"$
[19:25] <axel> Haemogoblin: ping?
[19:25] <bascule> heroicwisdom: odd, but there may be a road ahead, not one I know though, sorry
[19:25] <dotancohen> The spelling and capitalization are correct. However, this does not prevent focus. I have tried the rule without the quotes, that does not help. What am I doing wrong?
[19:26] <bascule> to me those iwconfig and dhclient worked for me on that acx100
[19:26] <jasoon> Anyone have some experience with Ark?
[19:26] <heroicwisdom> bascule: hmmm never mind, the device only allows me to enable it when i set a static IP, this is strange
[19:26] <bascule> some
[19:27] <jasoon> I'd like to zip multiple folders
[19:27] <bascule> dhclent not working on it? well that might be a router issue
[19:27] <jasoon> but not the directory folder for these folders
[19:27] <jasoon> at a loss on how to do this...
[19:27] <heroicwisdom> i guess i will do some playing, let me know if you have other ideas
[19:27] <bascule> heroicwisdom: if it is on though .. \o/
[19:27] <heroicwisdom> DCHP is fine on the router, im on my laptop now, via DHCP
[19:27] <jasoon> I figured I would just selectthe files-->Compress
[19:28] <jasoon> but it's making zips of the directory or something
[19:30] <Itaku> how do i get wireless inernet working?
[19:31] <jasoon> what wireless card do you have?
[19:31] <Itaku> idk
[19:31] <Itaku> its a usb thing
[19:31] <jasoon> lspci
[19:31] <jasoon> type that in terminal
[19:32] <jasoon> look for network controller
[19:32] <bascule> jasoon: do you have the right-click compress options showing
[19:32] <jasoon> yes
[19:32] <jasoon> one sec, I'll do it again and tell you the files it makes
[19:32] <bascule> add to archive ...
[19:33] <jasoon> bastctl.zip and a zip with a name ziUIlnnl
[19:33] <jasoon> bast is the name of one of the folders
[19:33] <bascule> looks like it has pulled that from /tmp/
[19:33] <jasoon> in this directory
[19:33] <axel> Haemogoblin: Hello?
[19:33] <bascule> lost him .. :)
[19:34] <Itaku> jasoon: where do i find it?
[19:34] <jasoon> terminal is in the kde menu-->system-->konsole
[19:34] <jasoon> konsole is a terminal emulator
[19:34] <Haemogoblin> i'm here
[19:34] <Haemogoblin> it's updating and taking aaages
[19:34] <Itaku> jasoon: where do i find network controller?
[19:34] <jasoon> did you type lspci?
[19:34] <bascule> jasoon: can you not just go into the dir ctrl+a riht-click add to .. blah
[19:35] <Itaku> jasoon: yeah
[19:35] <axel> Haemogoblin: What's updating?
[19:35] <jasoon> no such luck
[19:35] <jasoon> Itaku: scroll down
[19:35] <jasoon> if you are connected, it should see the network controller
[19:35] <jasoon> what kind is it?
[19:36] <jasoon> netgear/linksys/airlink et cet?
[19:36] <axel> Haemogoblin: sudo apt-get install w32codecs? Does that take so long?
[19:36] <jasoon> connected to the computer that is
[19:36] <Itaku> its linksys
[19:36] <jasoon> ok, linksys generally work great with linux
[19:36] <Itaku> well its not working
[19:36] <jasoon> when you lspci'd, did you see the word linksys anywhere?
[19:36] <Itaku> idk how to set it up
[19:37] <Haemogoblin> Alex
[19:37] <Haemogoblin> update complete
[19:37] <Itaku> jasoon: i just plugged in a usb thing and it gets wireless internet
[19:37] <Haemogoblin> i also found a reason for it not playing
[19:38] <jasoon> Itaku: it's working?
[19:38] <Haemogoblin> i went and checked the files in the dir
[19:38] <Haemogoblin> its not copied them properly
[19:38] <Haemogoblin> all of the tunes are 4k
[19:38] <Haemogoblin> :S
[19:39] <axel> Haemogoblin: That's a reason that can not be fixed with codecs, players or deletinc cashes. ;)
[19:39] <Itaku> jasoon: i need to configure it
[19:39] <jasoon> ok
[19:39] <Itaku> im just asking how to
[19:39] <axel> Haemogoblin: How did you copy the files?
[19:39] <jasoon> can it see your network?
[19:39] <Itaku> my network?
[19:40] <jasoon> do you know your ESSID (network name)?
[19:40] <Itaku> yes
[19:40] <jasoon> Do you have a router?
[19:40] <jasoon> or firewall?
[19:40] <Itaku> yeah
[19:40] <jasoon> If so, it should be broadcasting your network's name
[19:40] <Itaku> how do i set it up??????????
[19:40] <Itaku> put in the password
[19:40] <Itaku> scan for it
[19:40] <Itaku> enter the name
[19:40] <Itaku> that
[19:40] <jasoon> yes
[19:40] <jasoon> you have knetworkmanager yes?
[19:40] <jasoon> you're on kubuntu?
[19:41] <Itaku> im on kubuntu
[19:41] <Itaku> and where would i find it?
[19:41] <jasoon> system tray
[19:41] <jasoon> bottom right
[19:41] <jasoon> it looks like a plug going into a jack
[19:41] <jasoon> just right click that and click on your network-->set it up like Windows
[19:41] <Itaku> ok yeah i got that
[19:42] <jasoon> Do you have WEP or WPA?
[19:42] <Itaku> YEAH I DO
[19:42] <Itaku> -caps
[19:42] <jasoon> which?
[19:42] <Itaku> its WPA
[19:43] <flotishtu> i always have to type these commands (when reboot, or firestarter is started or network connection is reconnected) in order to make my network share internet. echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE tc qdisc add dev eth1 root tbf rate 80kbit buffer 1600 limit 3000 dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq   any way to do it for good, for ever?
[19:43] <jasoon> if you click your ESSID, should be pretty straightforward how to set it up
[19:46] <axel> Haemogoblin: Did you copy the files or ripped them from a CD?
[19:48] <axel> CU!
[19:49] <bascule> flotishtu: well add them into firestarter
[19:50] <bascule> ipmasq? is that really needed as well as iptables
[19:50] <flotishtu>  i always have to type these commands (when reboot, or firestarter is started or network connection is reconnected) in order to make my network share internet. echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE tc qdisc add dev eth1 root tbf rate 80kbit buffer 1600 limit 3000 dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq   any way to do it for good, for ever?
[19:50] <flotishtu> bascule sory
[19:51] <maduser> flotishtu: a script
[19:51] <jasoon> hm
[19:51] <flotishtu> bascule what do you mean add them to firestarter?
[19:51] <jasoon> in an init script probably
[19:51] <bascule> well firestarter should allow custom rules really
[19:51] <jasoon> that's what I have to do with ndiswrapper
[19:51] <bascule> but yeah, I would redo it myself
[19:51] <flotishtu> bascule yes . i think ipmasq is needed to handle firestarter firewall. otherwise it dont let me nat.
[19:51] <maduser> a script set to run apon start
[19:51] <bascule> ok
[19:51] <flotishtu> maduser what kind of
[19:51] <flotishtu> jasoon ic.
[19:52] <jasoon> but init is for modules
[19:52] <maduser> you could set it to run when the network is started or restared
[19:52] <jasoon> not sure if it would work with that
[19:52] <maduser> have it set to run constanly to cheack if the network is running
[19:52] <flotishtu> maduser jasoon but it also resets when ethernaet connection eth4 .. is reconnected.    it will undo itself at reconnection of eth4. even if i get it working for a reboot.
[19:53] <daniftodi> for view 3gp video?
[19:53] <flotishtu> maduser how.
[19:55] <maduser> do you know scripting?
[19:55] <flotishtu> and dpkg-reconfigure ipmasq need someone human to configure it.
[19:55] <flotishtu> pres yes no keys
[19:55] <flotishtu> maduser nope
[19:56] <maduser> flotishtu: I don't have time to write it
[19:56] <jasoon> sudo fix my damn network
[19:56] <jasoon> hahaha
[19:57] <flotishtu> /etc/network/ip-up.d/ or something like that, which is run whenever the interface goes up.
[19:57] <jasoon> question flotishu: where did you get that huge command from?
[19:58] <X-Seti> arhh
[19:59] <jasoon> ah that's cool, I just noticed something
[19:59] <jasoon> in Amarok, as a song is playing
[19:59] <X-Seti> I hate to bust in like this but..
[19:59] <jasoon> the icon fills up reflecting the timeline of the song
[19:59] <jasoon> that's cool haha
[19:59] <X-Seti> anyone here used wintv dvb (USB) t-nova ?
[20:00] <jasoon> I haven't
[20:01] <X-Seti> works well on my other comp, ubuntu but not here, i was wondering how you could force kaffeine to think its just been installed for the codec checker would come back up
[20:01] <jasoon> so it's a codec problem?
[20:01] <jasoon> you're talking about the adept batch?
[20:01] <X-Seti> im not sure, i know the device is being seen from the usb
[20:02] <X-Seti> and on my other comp, its being picked up by kaffeine..
[20:03] <X-Seti> same setup here, except i get dvb client show up in kaffeine instead?
[20:03] <The_ManU_212> hi
[20:03] <slow-motion> hi
[20:03] <X-Seti> hello
[20:03] <The_ManU_212> on hardy gimp is in english, new installation all locales are utf8 de, someone can help to get gimp german?
[20:03] <The_ManU_212> thx
[20:05] <secleinteer> does anyone konw how i can get the flac kio slave for audio cd's? i'm running kubuntu gutsy with kde 3.5.9
[20:05] <jasoon> it works on ubuntu x-seti?
[20:06] <flotishtu> any one else?
[20:06] <jasoon> sorry flotishtu, I don't know how you would script that
[20:07] <jasoon> perhaps something in rc.local
[20:07] <jasoon> I would ask on the forums
[20:07] <flotishtu> jasoon hm is there a auto way to configure ipmasq?
[20:07] <X-Seti> yeah wintv works well on one of my ubuntu boxes
[20:08] <jasoon> I can't think of how flotishtu
[20:08] <flotishtu> k
[20:08] <X-Seti> i was kind of proud of the fact i could watch digital tv on my linux box for the first time
[20:08] <jasoon> yeah that's cool x-seti
[20:08] <X-Seti> but i cant seem to make it happen on here
[20:08] <jasoon> so did you already run the adept-batch to get the restricted codecs?
[20:09] <jasoon> for avi/wmv and so on?
[20:09] <X-Seti> yep
[20:09] <jramskov> question: I can only copy a file from one konqueror or dolphin window to another by drag and drop - C&P doesn't work. Also if I mark some text in konqy (webbrowser) with the mouse, the marked text doesn't stay blue, but the text automatically gets copied into the clipboard and I can paste the text. How do I get this changed back?
[20:10] <jasoon> I don't know x-seti, that's strange
[20:10] <X-Seti> yep
[20:10] <jasoon> Do you watch the output in totem?
[20:10] <jasoon> on your working box?
[20:11] <X-Seti> k@UKscifi-Events:~$ sudo lsusb
[20:11] <X-Seti> [sudo] password for k:
[20:11] <X-Seti> Bus 003 Device 006: ID 093a:2510 Pixart Imaging, Inc.
[20:11] <X-Seti> Bus 003 Device 005: ID 05fe:1010 Chic Technology Corp.
[20:11] <X-Seti> Bus 003 Device 004: ID 05e3:0606 Genesys Logic, Inc. D-Link DUB-H4 USB 2.0 Hub
[20:11] <X-Seti> i use kaffeine only, has more support
[20:11] <jasoon> so kaffeine on your ubuntu box too?
[20:11] <X-Seti> thats what I see from here, so i know the device is being seen
[20:11] <X-Seti> yep
[20:11] <jasoon> yes you're right
[20:11] <X-Seti> the same config
[20:12] <jasoon> Have you tried reinstalling kaffeine?
[20:12] <jasoon> after purging it?
[20:12] <X-Seti> yeah but i cant find the config file for it
[20:12] <jasoon> it's in the home directory isn't
[20:13] <X-Seti> its like to think so, but nothing in there is names .kaffeine if thats the folder its ment to be under
[20:13] <jasoon> I just checked and you're right
[20:13] <jasoon> I have to go, but maybe check on the forums
[20:13] <X-Seti> k mate
[20:13] <X-Seti> thanks
[20:13] <jasoon> Lot of people with dvb issues
[20:14] <jasoon> sorry couldn't be more help, good luck :P
[20:14] <X-Seti> got a link
[20:14] <X-Seti> thats ok :)
[20:14] <jasoon> GF here bro ;)
[20:14] <jasoon> peace
[20:14] <X-Seti> hehe k mate
[20:25] <xomp> hey guys, trying to change my screen size so things aren't so freaking big lol. Currently I'm using 1400 x 1050 and my taskbar and such at the bottom are like an inch big lol
[20:25] <xomp> not too mention icons on the desktop are as big as half-dollars
[20:26] <jussi01> xomp: on kde3 or 4?
[20:26] <xomp> jussi01, kde4
[20:26] <jussi01> xomp: would you mind jumping over to #kubuntu-kde4 then? Thanks :)
[20:26] <xomp> jussi01, I just got off the backtrack 3 cd that uses kde4 and noticed how nice things look compared to my kubuntu box and am trying to emulate it's look haha
[20:27] <xomp> jussi01, kk, had no idea :)
[20:38] <TheGentleman> how do I play an Audio CD on Kubuntu Hardy?  It seems it can't see it
[20:41] <TheGentleman> I dunno if it worked or not with Gutsy before upgrading, as i think i never tryed playing one....
[20:43] <melkart> TheGentleman: i just tried on gutsy. works here
[20:43] <bascule> well it should just see it when you close the drawer
[20:43] <melkart> TheGentleman: although amarok took a long time to start
[20:44] <bascule> and offer to play/rip etcetera
[20:44] <TheGentleman> i think it should work... bt it doesn't in my case
[20:44] <fidelio> I still cannot get my printer to work.  Test works great thought. Any idea? Suggestions?
[20:45] <TheGentleman> bascule  if i chooose to play it, Amarok starts and nothing happens
[20:45] <heroicwisdom> can somebody tell me where to black list drivers?
[20:45] <teknoprep> how do i load compiz at boot time with KDE ?
[20:46] <heroicwisdom> or how to write a start up script
[20:46] <bascule> TheGentleman: hmm, I have seen such a thing, quite annoying, try kscd it is in kdemultimedia IIRC
[20:46] <bascule> it can be got alone it seems
[20:46] <bascule> !info kscd
[20:47] <TheGentleman> bascule: my concern is not to play that Audio CD... I can play it elsewhere.  But I cannot accept both amarok and vlc can't play an Audio CD!
[20:48] <bascule> seems odd to be fair
[20:50] <bascule> if you go into amarok ngage -> play audio cd what does it do?
[20:50] <bascule> engage*
[20:50] <TheGentleman> is it right that the Audio CD gets mounted as /dev/scd0 ?
[20:50] <bascule> no audio cds are not mounted
[20:50] <bascule> they have no filesytem in that regard
[20:51] <bascule> for me amarok creates a list of tunes in the playlist, I then double click and off it goes, is it one of those multi-media cds with video or such on it
[20:53] <TheGentleman> oh, now i can see the content of the CD in /media/scd0 using dolphin
[20:53] <bascule> kio_parts I guess
[20:54] <TheGentleman> but if i select a file ans chose to play using amarok nothing happens
[20:54] <bascule> and in amrok it's self, engage -> play audio cd ?
[20:54] <TheGentleman> nothing
[20:55] <TheGentleman> now i copied one of the wav files to my home and i can play it from there!
[20:56] <bascule> yeah
[20:56] <TheGentleman> so, it is not a problem related to audio formats
[20:56] <bascule> konqueror offers a nice rip-as-you-drag feature too
[20:57] <bascule> no, I wish I knew, one of those things, as it has always worked for me I can't help :)
[20:57] <TheGentleman> i know, but I only want amarok or any other media player to play my audio cd!
[20:58] <TheGentleman> shit! do I have to go back to windows to do such a simple thing as playing an Audio CD???????????????
[21:00] <bascule> if you goto amrok settings -> configure amarok engine what have you got set for cd defult device
[21:01] <TheGentleman> let me see...
[21:02] <TheGentleman> it's /dev/cdrom
[21:03] <bascule> and if you say in a terminal ls -l /dev/cdrom  is it there?
[21:04] <TheGentleman> no file or directory
[21:04] <bascule> ah ha
[21:04] <bascule> ls -l /dev/scd0
[21:05] <TheGentleman> ok, it is seen there!
[21:05] <bascule> so set the device to /dev/scd0 in amarok engine and see where we are
[21:08] <TheGentleman> nothing happens again......
[21:08] <bascule> you applied it i guess
[21:09] <TheGentleman>  i set amarok to /dev/scd0 and hit ok, then tried to play and nothing happened
[21:09] <TheGentleman> so I closed amarok and opened it again and the value was again set to /dev/cdrom!
[21:09] <dwidmann_laptop> TheGentleman: try "kaffeine -d /dev/scd0"
[21:10] <dwidmann_laptop> TheGentleman: or "amarok --cdplay /dev/scd0"
[21:11] <bascule> didn't hit apply at a guess
[21:11] <TheGentleman> amarok --cdplay /dev/scd0
[21:11] <bascule> I just changed,and it is fine
[21:12] <TheGentleman> after issuing the command for kaffffeine i got the following message:
[21:12] <TheGentleman> ASSERT: "i <= nodes" in /usr/share/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (376)
[21:12] <TheGentleman> and of course it didn't play anything............
[21:13] <heroicwisdom> hey can someboyd help me set up duel head on my PC? i have a nvidia 8600 video card
[21:13] <dwidmann_laptop> heroicwisdom: it's dirt easy to do with the "nvidia-settings" application
[21:14] <heroicwisdom> where can i find that? do i have to install via the package handler?
[21:14] <dwidmann_laptop> heroicwisdom: I can't remember, I think so though (this is an unwelcome change in hardy, IMO)
[21:15] <bascule> it is part of nvidia binary driver
[21:15] <heroicwisdom> ok i am installing some things right now, but when its finsihed i will look for it
[21:15] <TheGentleman> dwidmann_laptop, amarok says it can't create a io-slave   klauncher says protocol cdda unknown
[21:15] <bascule> kdemultimedia
[21:15] <jordan> is there a way to restore my package versions the original install version without a reinstall? an upgrade from backports messed up my kde4 install on hardy.
[21:16] <TheGentleman> and umbelievably amarok is now Playing it!!!!  a good minute later than i issued the command!!!
[21:16] <bascule> ?
[21:16] <heroicwisdom> ok i see it, im installing it now
[21:16] <bascule> well it is a littke slow to pick up
[21:17] <dwidmann_laptop> TheGentleman: hmmmmm
[21:17] <_crash_> cdda unknown?
[21:17] <_crash_> never seen that one
[21:17] <dwidmann_laptop> I've seen it, but forget how I resolved it ...
[21:17] <bascule> heroicwisdom: if you had the binary nvidia driver in already it should be there, there is a seperate package, but it will remove the driver, IIRC
[21:18] <TheGentleman> is it normal taht amarok sends an error message and then begins to play with a good minute delay?
[21:18] <bascule> for nvidia-settingss that is
[21:18] <heroicwisdom> i jsut installed the nvida settings package, but it did not remove the driver
[21:18] <bascule> o
[21:18] <heroicwisdom> the xconfig utilite was gunna though (but i did not install that)
[21:18] <dwidmann_laptop> TheGentleman: I wouldn't say that's normal at all, no.
[21:19] <heroicwisdom> im look at the settings util now, where can i control duel head?
[21:19] <bascule> maybe cause if the updated device descriptor ??
[21:19] <dwidmann_laptop> heroicwisdom: look at the displays tab I think it is ... something like that
[21:19] <xomp> !info purekde
[21:19] <TheGentleman> unfortunately I can't tell how it used to be on gutsy... since i never tryed playing an Audo CD on it
[21:19] <dwidmann_laptop> !purekde | xomp
[21:20] <_crash_> I thought Kubuntu WAS purekde...
[21:20] <heroicwisdom> i dono, i saw nvida-xconfig, and i was gunna install that as well. but when i previewed the changes i saw it was gunna uninstall the driver, so i canceled that
[21:20] <xomp> thanks
[21:20] <bascule> heroicwisdom: thanks for the clarity, I remebered something :)
[21:20] <dwidmann_laptop> _crash_: that page saves the poor souls who installed gnome first, and then found out how much better KDE is :)
[21:20] <bascule> :D
[21:20] <xomp> has anyone experienced issues with enabling desktop effects in kde4?
[21:21] <jordan> xomp: yes
[21:21] <xomp> jordan, I'm getting nothing but black, no icons or taskbar etc. :(
[21:21] <dwidmann_laptop> xomp: which kinds of issues?
[21:21] <heroicwisdom> bascule: no problem. now what is xinerama?
[21:21] <bascule> !xinerama
[21:21] <xomp> I can see the menu if I click it's general location to logout and get back into gnome is all I can do now :(
[21:22] <bascule> the bot knows more than me :)
[21:22] <heroicwisdom> lol
[21:22] <bascule> I knew basically what it was
[21:22] <dwidmann_laptop> xomp: try changing the method it's using .... I forget where the setting is off hand, but I think if you go to kde4's system settings and go to desktop effects from there, it will let you change what it uses, ie: Xrender vs OpenGL, etc
[21:22] <jordan> xomp: hwen things like that happen, i move my .kde directory to a new name. that clears your user config
[21:23] <heroicwisdom> i see thanks for the info i dfo not want to use that, i like my two seprate displays.
[21:23] <heroicwisdom> whats the command to restart the x server?
[21:23] <jordan> xomp: .kde4 dir, i mean
[21:23] <xomp> jordan, lol I delted my .kde directory in terminal from gnome
[21:23] <dwidmann_laptop> heroicwisdom: just log out, go to restart x from the kdm menu, and log back in :)
[21:23] <bascule> log out, or ctrl+alt+bksp <-- kills it dead be warned
[21:23] <heroicwisdom> ok ill be back!
[21:24] <bascule> as in no warning just stops and restarts X
[21:24] <xomp> jordan, after killing my .kde4 directory, would logging in and out restart X or would I need to CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to accomplish that?
[21:24] <dwidmann_laptop> bascule: and kills all X apps without saving, etc
[21:24] <jordan> xomp: i'd do a full ctrl+alt+bkspace
[21:25] <xomp> jordan, ok, brb :D
[21:25] <jordan> xomp: good luck
[21:25] <jordan> is there a way to restore my package versions to the original install version without a reinstall? an upgrade from backports messed up my kde4 install on hardy.
[21:25] <busfahrer> Excuse me, I upgraded to Hardy and now my Firefox crashes all the time. Any hints?
[21:26] <dwidmann_laptop> Jordan, yes, but it will take some work
[21:26] <_crash_> note to self: dont hit ctrl+alt+bkspc again
[21:26] <dwidmann_laptop> busfahrer: it's a beta, how in the world it got into an Ubuntu Release is beyond me.
[21:27] <jordan> dwidmann_laptop: more work than its worth on a week-old install?
[21:27] <dwidmann_laptop> jodan: no, not really, it's quite doable.
[21:27] <jordan> dwidmann_laptop: cool. can you point me in the right direction?
[21:28] <dwidmann_laptop> jordan: in fact, I've done it recently
[21:28] <jordan> dwidmann_laptop: sweet
[21:29] <heroicwisdom> yay it worked!
[21:32] <xomp> bah, I think it's just busted beyond fixing guys :(
[21:32] <heroicwisdom> are thier any good multimonitor utilites for linux like ultramon for windows?
[21:32] <xomp> I can't bring up system settings to remove the advanced effects setting cuz everything is black :(
[21:33] <jordan> xomp: can you log into kde4 as a different user?
[21:33] <xomp> jordan, not sure, i only have this one account
[21:33] <busfahrer`> Excuse me, ever since upgrading to Hardy (KDE 3.5.9 version), whenever text scrolls in a window (for example in Konversation), or when I open Yakuake, it feels slow, sluggish, you know what I mean. Any idea what could be behind this?
[21:34] <jordan> xomp: i'd try creating another user and see if all is well with kde4 under the new user
[21:34] <xomp> jordan, not a bad idea
[21:36] <xomp> wow, not being able to create a user with appropriate capitalization is so frustrating...
[21:36] <xomp> want to creat a user named "Joshua"? Too bad, your stuck with all lower case!!
[21:38] <busfahrer`> anybody, please? :-(
[21:39] <xomp> ok, kde4 is fine under another user
[21:39] <xomp> anyway to copy some things from this user account to my old one?
[21:41] <BluesKaj> busfahrer`, install htop and run it in the terminal to see what process is using up your resources
[21:41] <xomp> pavel_, from ACS?
[21:41] <busfahrer`> BluesKaj: my CPU is happy idling away
[21:42] <jordan> xomp: yeah, you can as root. sudo cp ... ...
[21:42] <dany89> nb m
[21:42] <jordan> xomp: just be sure chown the files to the new user after you copy them
[21:42] <dany89> ciau
[21:42] <xomp> jordan, sorry, should have been more specific lol. Anyway to move the files that will make kde4 work again onto my old account from this new account?
[21:43] <jordan> xomp: gotcha. im not sure which files kde stores your config in. i thought it would be .kde4
[21:44] <uga> jordan: standard kde stores configs under wherever $KDEHOME points to
[21:44] <uga> iirc kubuntu has modded it to default to .kde4
[21:44] <xomp> jordan, yeah, I'm stumped :S thinking about just reloading the whole OS, I've made so many changes in my learning process that I have more than likely snafu'd plenty of things hah
[21:45] <xomp> I'm thinking of replaceing gnome on my kids edubuntu box to kde4
[21:46] <xomp> I think they would enjoy it much more, they seem bored with gnome.
[21:47] <uga> xomp: I wanted to say games, but I installed some to a friend's kid last week, and I got very dissapointed
[21:47] <uga> games now fail running fullscreen
[21:47] <uga> unsupported video modes
[21:47] <xomp> uga, you installed some games to a friend's kid? hehe
[21:48] <uga> I had replaced their windows box for a linux kubuntu one
[21:48] <uga> and obviously they "need" games =)
[21:48] <xomp> ah lol
[21:48] <xomp> yeah i took windows xp off the kids pc and put edubuntu on it instead
[21:48] <uga> but most known games nice for kids like supertux would fail running
[21:49] <uga> tuxracer worked, since it does not do fullscreen by default
[21:58] <Zefir> I am using Kubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04. I have a Geforce 8800 GTS 320 MB. It all started with Compiz-Fusion. I tried installing the Snow plugin, compiled it and all, after reboot my screen went black. Since then every time I try to configure my gfx card, black screen after reboot...
[21:59] <Zefir> The only way I can fix it is go to recovery and use xfix. I miss my Compiz-Fusion effects dearly. I will be very grateful if someone helps me get them back. Just ask away if you need anymore info...
[22:03] <BluesKaj> !compiz | Zefir
[22:04] <_crash_> lol
[22:05] <Zefir> I think the problem has gone system-wide now, because every time I enable any graphics driver, well, no deal. Nevertheless, I shall try.
[22:05] <_crash_> Im still afraid to install linux on my desktop.
[22:05] <_crash_> Zefir: have you tried re-installing the gfx driver from scratch?
[22:06] <Zefir> Some time ago. You mean purge and reintall?
[22:06] <_crash_> yup
[22:07] <_crash_> nuke n pave will fix anything
[22:07] <_crash_> I hunger. I shall return later with more useless dribbel.
[22:08] <Zefir> Will try in a moment, thank you.
[22:11] <BluesKaj> Zefir, you may get more help in #compiz-fusion
[22:12] <Zefir> As I've said, I think the problem has spread to my whole system. But I shall ask there.
[22:13] <bascule> see if you can get the compiled plugin to remove cleanly
[22:13] <bascule> then do a remove and reinstall of all compiz stuff
[22:14] <Zefir> I think I'll reboot now, having purged and reinstalled the nvidia driver.
[22:14] <bascule> also try a new user account
[22:14] <Zefir> Well, there's this funny thing...
[22:14] <Zefir> I get a black screen when I log out.
[22:16] <bascule> hmmm, breakage
[22:16] <Zefir> I'm a natural at breaking things, that is for sure.
[22:17] <bascule> part if free os, so much can change :)
[22:17] <bascule> of*
[22:17] <Zefir> Someone should hire me for quality assurance, if I can't break it most people won't.
[22:17] <bascule> well, they like that in dev places
[22:17] <Zefir> Yay for career options.
[22:17] <bascule> give it to Zefir for 2 days, he'll knacker it :)
[22:18] <Zefir> I'll reboot now. Cya in a few minutes.
[22:19] <bascule> k
[22:21] <Zefir> Well, still got visual, but that's not surprising considering that I haven't turned the drivers on.
[22:22] <Zefir> I usually use System -> Hardware Drivers Manager, yay or nay? I think there are several ways to do this...
[22:23] <wesley> !adeptfix
[22:26] <al3x4ndr3> any repositore to get Qt 4.4 in Gutsy?
[22:29] <norman_x> hi out there. how can I switch of the kubuntu-picture during system start, and how can I let me show the startings texts in 1280x1024 resolution? I run Kubuntu 8.04 - and sorry for my bad english
[22:30] <_crash_> norman_x: thats actually a good question. Let me know if you get an answer on that one
[22:31] <norman_x> _crash_: yeah ;-) I heard about that with 8.04 grub cannot be modified more in that way, is that correct?
[22:31] <devath0> i think u can remove the splash screen pretty easy.. setting the res might be a bit more difficult
[22:32] <_crash_> devath0: Well, for instance the bootup on Backtrack 3 is nice and pretty. So there has to be a way to mod it
[22:32] <Zefir> What's the best way to enable/configure the nvidia_new drivers?
[22:34] <devath0> _crash_: for removing the kubuntu splash u can use "sudo apt-get remove ksplash" << -- but im unsure of how to change the boot res.
[22:35] <_crash_> devath0: Dont want to remove it so much as change it
[22:35] <devath0> ah
[22:42] <aleksandar> hello people
[22:46] <Zefir> Enabling ANY graphics drivers just screws things up! Damn. Enabling nvidia drivers = black screen at next reboot.
[22:58] <shaffy> can someone tell me how i list the read/write/executable attributes of a file?  is there an option via "ls"?
[22:59] <BonesolTeraDyne> "ls -l" I believe
[22:59] <Zefir> So, using EnvyNG gave me some interesting results in configuring my drivers.
[22:59] <BonesolTeraDyne> That's a lowercase L, by the way
[23:00] <Zefir> I got to the splash screen and after that I saw the "you're using low graphics settings now" window (I think), but it was all in a weird position, like, upper-right corner of the window in the lower-left corner of my screen...
[23:04] <shaffy> BonesolTeraDyne: thanks.  that did it just fine.  much appreciated!
[23:04] <xomp> can someone please help me? I've enabled the 'advanced desktop effects' under kde4 and now since doing that I can't see anything, desktop, taskbar, panel w/e. I've deleted .kde and it didn't help.
[23:05] <BonesolTeraDyne> shaffy: Glad I could help
[23:05] <shaffy> can someone help me with this error ( http://pastebin.com/d2ad51016 )?  i've been trying to add the Wine to kubuntu's sources list, however, this appears to be happening.
[23:06] <Dragnslcr> xomp- #kubuntu-kde4 can probably help more
[23:06] <xomp> Dragnslcr, I've tried there and waited for 40 mins with no response.
[23:07] <xomp> Seems nobody is around today, no matter where you go lol. Maddening for someone needing help :(
[23:09] <sroyz> ...
[23:10] <xomp> Argh, I've wasted literally months with ubuntu just trying to get elementary things working. The day linux doesn't break by doing basic functions is the day I return to it. For now I'm going back to Windows, it's never let me down with basic functionality before.
[23:10] <bascule> shaffy: try again, i can see it
[23:10] <xomp> Cheers and Happy Mothers Day to all you Mothers in here!
[23:11] <bascule> that was a straight 404 error, gone now
[23:11] <shaffy> bascule: i still got the same error.
[23:12] <shaffy>  http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/hardy.list appears not to be present on the server
[23:12] <bascule> put it in a browser, you will see it
[23:12] <bascule> only 2 lines
[23:13] <chillaKS> hi
[23:13] <chillaKS> help!
[23:13] <chillaKS> hello?
[23:13] <bascule> shaffy: i get in browser and from wget
[23:13] <BonesolTeraDyne> chillaKS: Just ask your question. If someone can help, they'll help
[23:14] <shaffy> when you put the above address in your browser, you do not get a 404 error??
[23:14] <bascule> nope
[23:14] <BonesolTeraDyne> shaffy: nor do I
[23:14] <shaffy> weird, now it works.
[23:14] <chillaKS> BonesolTeraDyne I did a massive Gutsy upgrade and b0rkd the Kernel
[23:14] <shaffy> weird, the file must have been absent?
[23:15] <uga> shaffy: or you got an incorrect dns resolution
[23:15] <BonesolTeraDyne> chillaKS: How, exactly? Mind providing details?
[23:15] <uga> shaffy: or a cached response
[23:15] <chillaKS> I cannot boot without initrd....bak
[23:15] <uga> shaffy: or well, the server might have been buggy ;)
[23:15] <BonesolTeraDyne> chillaKS: you mean the initrd prompt? are you using a dell?
[23:16] <chillaKS> I mean the boot kernel has .bak at the end??
[23:16] <BonesolTeraDyne> initramfs*
[23:16] <shaffy> uga, BonesolTeraDyne and bascule thanks for the help.  it is appreciated.
[23:16] <shaffy> :)
[23:16] <bascule> np
[23:16] <uga> wow, I feel praised for not doing nothing
[23:16] <uga> s/nothing/anything
[23:16] <BonesolTeraDyne> chillaKS: Has .bak at the end? I've never seen that happen before...
[23:17] <chillaKS> BonesolTeraDyne is not a dell, grub and the the files in boot dont match
[23:18] <bascule> uga: you bothered to check and answer, that is enough :)
[23:18] <BonesolTeraDyne> Sadly, I'm not sure. I don't mess with grub all that much.
[23:18] <bascule> it must be looking for that initrd
[23:19] <chillaKS> BonesolTeraDyne and the recovery kernel has dpkg.bak
[23:19] <shaffy> i have a file, "WordFlashReader-0.99.9.pl" which is supposed to be an executable.  after performing chmod 755 on the file, and attempting to excute it in a terminal, i get the following error: "bash: WordFlashReader-0.99.9.pl: command not found"   any ideas anyone?
[23:20] <BonesolTeraDyne> shaffy: did you try "./WordFlashReader-0.99.9.pl" ?
[23:21] <shaffy> BonesolTeraDyne:   thanks :)
[23:22] <Zefir> This is so frustrating...
[23:22] <chillaKS> anyone?
[23:22] <chillaKS> the updater is borken
[23:23] <Corvix> chillaKS: tried a sudo update-grub ?
[23:23] <chillaKS> how to fix a kernel issue?
[23:23] <BonesolTeraDyne> chillaKS: since it's a kernel problem, you might want to try to get an aswer from #ubuntu.
[23:23] <BonesolTeraDyne> answer*
[23:23] <BonesolTeraDyne> It's worth a shot
[23:23] <chillaKS> BonesolTeraDyne why???!!
[23:23] <chillaKS> I am using kubuntu
[23:23] <bascule> chillaKS: let's see a paste of /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:23] <Zefir> After running EnvyNG and then sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg I managed to get to the Nvidia splash screen, and then the screen went all... Umm... Torn up? It was in stripes, nothing in it's right place, looked like a refresh problem...
[23:23] <bascule> and ls /boot
[23:24] <BonesolTeraDyne> The kernel is used in both ubuntu and kubuntu. They're the same kernel
[23:24] <chillaKS> bascule k brb
[23:25] <Zefir> Perhaps I need another program to configure my monitor? But I can't find any...
[23:25] <chillaKS> don't leave
[23:25] <bascule> ?
[23:25] <bascule> Zefir: nvidia-settings-manager
[23:25] <BonesolTeraDyne> bascule: he's probably gone to get the info for you.
[23:25] <Corvix> Zefir: tried nvidia-settings
[23:26] <bascule> is it without manager now, I dunno :)
[23:26] <Zefir> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[23:26] <bascule> hmm
[23:26]  * Trevinyo è assente: Pero ora assente.
[23:26] <Zefir> I tried that a thousand times. Black screen.
[23:26] <bascule> envy eh?
[23:27] <Zefir> Using Hardware Drivers Manager = black screen after reboot.
[23:27] <Zefir> Using envy = the situation described above, splash screen, torn up view, but it's SOMETHING at least.
[23:27] <bascule> try #nvidia
[23:28] <Zefir> Ok.
[23:31] <Zefir> Once, just once, I managed to get a WHITE screen and I saw my compiz-fusion effects (the windows burn up when I minimize them, sweet)...
[23:32] <Itaku> im using KDE5 and when i play a song no sound comes out
[23:32] <Itaku> KDE4
[23:33] <bascule> amarok?
[23:33] <Itaku> yup
[23:33] <bascule> try changing outputs
[23:33] <Itaku> how?
[23:33] <bascule> settings configure amarok engine
[23:34] <Itaku> doesnt work
[23:34] <Itaku> no sound on my comp works at all
[23:34] <Itaku> not just amarok
[23:34] <bascule> ah
[23:34] <bascule> kmix shows a card and the volumes are ok?
[23:35] <Itaku> wheres kmix?
[23:35] <weswh-> what's the syntax to remove something with apt?
[23:35] <bascule> alt+f2 kmix <return>
[23:35] <bascule> aot-get remove <thing?
[23:35] <bascule> apt-get*
[23:35] <Itaku> alt+f2 doesnt do anything
[23:35] <bascule> ?
[23:36] <Itaku> i typed kmix in terminal
[23:36] <bascule> ok
[23:36] <Itaku> and a megaphone with lines show up
[23:36] <bascule> hmm
[23:36] <bascule> this is kmix :)
[23:36] <bascule> volume sliders
[23:36] <Itaku> ok
[23:37] <weswh-> so, apt-get* install <package>?
[23:37] <Itaku> al of them are aat max
[23:37] <sparr__> aptitude wants to remove hundreds of packages that apt-get doesnt.  how can i convince it not to?
[23:37] <Zefir> So much for getting help on #nvidia, no response. *sigh*
[23:37] <bascule> weswh-: no, apt-get remove package_name to remove things
[23:37] <Itaku> all of the bars are at max
[23:38] <bascule> is the green light on on front?
[23:38] <Itaku> green light on on front?
[23:39] <Zefir> Should be under the slider.
[23:39] <Itaku> there are no green dots
[23:39] <bascule> at the top of the slider called front there is a green light
[23:39] <bascule> oh
[23:39] <Itaku> theres nothing under slider
[23:39] <Itaku> and theres check mark boxes
[23:39] <Zefir> Oh, on top in outpot, under in input. Hm, weird that.
[23:40] <Zefir> Check mark boxes? Huh.
[23:40] <egork> where can I configure how the ntfs-3g partition is auto-mounted by app-launcher?
[23:40] <Itaku> im using nvidia btw
[23:41] <bascule> never used nvidia sound
[23:41] <bascule> try in a shell alsamixer
[23:41] <Itaku> k
[23:42] <Itaku> aah it worked
[23:42] <Itaku> thanks a million
[23:42] <Itaku> you should be +o
[23:42] <bascule> np :)
[23:42] <bascule> heh, never!! :D
[23:42] <bascule> press escape to exit that
[23:43] <bascule> if you close the shell it tends to crash
[23:44] <egork> #kubuntu-kde4
[23:45] <bascule> !ntfs
[23:45] <egork> never mind that pleas, my question should be asked in that channel.
[23:46] <bascule> !ntfs =~ s/ubotu/ubottu/
[23:48] <egork> actually my problem is not witht the driver itself, just where to tell kde or ubuntu to mount new ntfs partitions with utf8
[23:48] <Wesley> libqt4-assistant libqt4-core libqt4-dbus libqt4-designer libqt4-gui libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-sql libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqtcore4 libqtgui4
[23:48] <endafy> hey i was wondering if kde 4 is worth the download
[23:48] <endafy> im on 3.5.9
[23:48] <endafy> like full kde installed and everything
[23:49] <Wesley> i wanna remove these packages but it wanna take whole kde4 with it how to remove only the packages i want to remove
[23:49] <bascule> depends if you wanna play with newness
[23:49] <uga> endafy: I suggest you to wait till 4.1 is out if you want to use it on a daily basis
[23:49] <endafy> well yes but stability is a matter
[23:49] <endafy> o ok ty
[23:49] <egork> KDE4 works for me... not perfect, but no reason to downgrade to KDE3 neither.
[23:49] <bascule> leave it then :)
[23:49] <uga> endafy: kde 4.0 is for testing purposes only
[23:49] <endafy> ahh
[23:49] <uga> and coding
[23:49] <endafy> lol
[23:50] <endafy> i used it once and didnt know how to use it
[23:50] <endafy> the whole icons as a widget confused me a bit
[23:50] <bascule> Wesley: just put sudo apt-get remove in front of that list
[23:50] <BluesKaj> kde3 is not a downgrade , it's mature desktop that works fine without silly eye candy widgets etc.
[23:50] <bascule> :)
[23:50] <endafy> i love kde3
[23:50] <endafy> i hope it only gets more stable
[23:50] <Wesley> bascule i did it takes whole kde4 with it
[23:51] <bascule> oh
[23:51] <uga> endafy: that'll be hard. kde 3.x has gone so many releases speeding it up and making it more stable
[23:51] <uga> and 4.0 was written from scratch
[23:51] <Wesley> ah shit i pushed enter
[23:51] <bascule> Wesley: well kde4 does need those :)
[23:51] <uga> it'll take some time reaching the same level of robustness
[23:51] <endafy> how do i get the cool kde 4 menu in kde3
[23:51] <bascule> now that I read them
[23:52] <uga> endafy: arf, you don't. Just wait =)
[23:52] <Wesley> bascule i was trying to get Qt still on 4.3
[23:52] <bascule> what is it now?
[23:52] <egork> bluesKaj :-) yesterday is not a downgrade too, but it is rock solid if you ask me :-)
[23:52] <uga> endafy: and it's fugly anyway, white, not themed...
[23:52] <bascule> !info libqt4-core
[23:52] <bascule> it is 4.3
[23:53] <Wesley> in backport it is Qt 4.4
[23:53] <bascule> oh
[23:53] <endafy> well so is the current menu the kickoff style menu is annoying i just wanted something like suse's menu
[23:53] <bascule> and you have upgraded to find it broken?
[23:53] <Wesley> theres now may to not upgrade Qt 4.3
[23:54] <bascule> maybe if you removed backports source and retry update .. ?
[23:54] <bascule> just a though, there are ways of forcing versions in apt IIRC
[23:54] <Wesley> i backport there is kde4 upgrade
[23:54] <bascule> yeah
[23:55] <Itaku> on my keyboard i got three keys that control the volume but when i press it they dont work how do i make them work??
[23:55] <BluesKaj> egork, kde4 wasn't stable on my pc , crashed & hung alot , and those crtooney widgets ,who needs them. Hence I dumped it :P
[23:55] <yulprand> hola
[23:55] <egork> itaku have you tried keytouch application?
[23:56] <BluesKaj> BBL , gotta set up the sprinklers
[23:56] <endafy> Loved kde for a while ever since 1.4
[23:56] <uga> Itaku: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KDEMultimediaKeys
[23:56] <Wesley> Blueskaj dont mesh with garfield
[23:56] <yulprand> hola
[23:56] <yulprand> como puedo entrar al chat en español
[23:57] <uga> uhm... is there a kubuntu-es maybe?
[23:57] <bascule> !es
[23:57] <uga> yulprand: escribe /join #kubuntu-es
[23:57] <yulprand> umm i don`t know
[23:57] <yulprand> vaaya thanks
[23:58] <yereth> hi guys
[23:58] <bascule> hello
[23:58] <yereth> I recently updated to 8.04 and have all kinds of problems
[23:58] <yereth> I fixed my nvidia stuff
[23:58] <yereth> but now no sound
[23:58] <endafy> well watashi nihongo nishi neo ubuntu - jp?
[23:58] <yereth> alsaconf doesn't exist
[23:58] <yereth> although I do have alsa-utils installed
[23:58] <yereth> any thoughts?
[23:58] <Zefir> How did you fix nvidia stuff, yereth?
[23:59] <bascule> yereth: I think alsaconf got dropped a while ago
[23:59] <yereth> appeared that grup didn't update properly, and was still loading the -14 kernel
[23:59] <yereth> bascule: any idea why my sound suddenly doesn't work?
[23:59] <yereth> or how I can reconfigure?
[23:59] <endafy> watashi nihongo, nishi neo ubuntu-jp?