[13:25] <Klangdah> I need my wifi clients to indentify to get access to the web, I need dhcp and proxy to log activity too
[13:25] <lbruno> Klangdah: WPAD?
[13:26] <T_Davis> radius?
[13:26] <lbruno> Klangdah: then deny direct access to the web
[13:26] <Klangdah> I'm sorry ? (quite noobish in linux even if not that noobish in comps :)
[13:26] <lbruno> T_Davis: true
[13:26] <lbruno> Klangdah: I mean web proxy autodiscovery
[13:26] <T_Davis> just create a little wireless "dialup" isp
[13:27] <Klangdah> It's going to be a public access, I "just" need to give the pw to the clients, can't ask them to install client soft or configure connection
[13:27] <lbruno> can you ask them to change the "Try to discover settings for this network checkbox"?
[13:28] <savage--> anyone running ubuntu on a Dell D630 laptop?
[13:28] <Klangdah> At first I thought about doing an auth page on a web server, then I thought about the proxy then I get mixed up :p
[13:28] <lbruno> Klangdah: to log activity, either proxy or iptables -j LOG
[13:28] <T_Davis> savage- conexant modem issue?
[13:28] <tmn> Hi! I'm having problems with Ubuntu hanging while switching users(when effects are enabled)
[13:28] <morth> Could anyone suggest something i should learn - i just started using linux the other day i have a basic understanding with the terminal.
[13:28] <tmn> Is there any fix to this?
[13:28] <morth> is there anything i should learn?
[13:29] <Klangdah> lbruno : no I can't, some of them are very noob and I don't want the logging part to be obvious
[13:29] <savage--> T_Davis, Nope -- just wondering if the LCD has issues... doesn't seem as clear as my old IBM Lenovo T60, but maybe I can't compare...
[13:29] <T_Davis> yes, learn nano, learn to do it all from terminal, the shiny thing is for kids and old people
[13:29] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[13:30] <savage--> T_Davis, Nope -- just wondering if the LCD has issues... doesn't seem as clear as my old IBM Lenovo T60, but maybe I can't compare...
[13:30] <lbruno> in that case, the "needs password to continue" webpage might a bunch of scripts that manipulate the firewall rules
[13:30] <lbruno> forget the proxy-auth
[13:30] <Klangdah> yeah so redirected transparent proxy just does NOT work with auth right ?
[13:31] <Klangdah> Everything works wonders when I get the client to point on the proxy :(
[13:31] <tmn> Hi! I'm having problems with Ubuntu hanging while switching users(when effects are enabled). Is there any fix to this?
[13:31] <lbruno> yep, proxy-level auth needs to know there IS a proxy
[13:31] <lbruno> when a user sucessfully logs in (where the "sucessfully" criteria is defined by your webapp), point it at the proxy
[13:31] <T_Davis> you could get a wrt54g router and dd-wrt and let it run authentication
[13:31] <^Cheeky> hey could anyone tell me why my sound stopped working with youtube or any other video sites? i tried playing mp3 and i have sound, i also have ALSA  as well could some one help me ? if i restart my computer it seems to work fine but always goes back again
[13:31] <music_> #eas
[13:31] <lbruno> before the client "logs in", he's pointed at the same static page: /var/www/auth.html
[13:32] <lbruno> Klangdah: see where I'm going with this?
[13:32] <Klangdah> Yes ... when redirected it "skips" the auth part and gets denied access
[13:32] <lbruno> Klangdah: yeah, the users are always redirected
[13:32] <T_Davis> priveledges on the auth.html file, set to www-data
[13:33] <jim_p> anyone that had a wubi problem 5 hours earlier and i offered to help??
[13:33] <lbruno> either to the "log in here" page, or to the proxy
[13:33] <Klangdah> Ok so auth thru the proxy is down, what's left ? firewall ?
[13:33] <^Cheeky> anyone encountered my problem,?
[13:33] <lbruno> since they're running on two different ports, the -j REDIRECT can be done
[13:33] <lbruno> Klangdah: exactly
[13:33] <Klangdah> Or web auth that sets some rules (although that completely new for me)
[13:33] <lbruno> Klangdah: you we're already doing part of the job
[13:34] <T_Davis> check the permissions on auth.html and lemme know
[13:34] <Klangdah> I'm not in front of the server and can't get access to it ... and can't get access to IRC where the server is \o/
[13:34] <sriramoman> just want to tell you people one thing: In gambas, you can do quite powerful things, quite easily[unlike VB]. I designed a basic terminal just now in a matter of 2 minutes. I was just thinking what to do, I didn't even refer much about suggestions etc. Just did it!
[13:35] <lbruno> the webapp, when the client logs in, adds a rule for the <REMOTE_ADDRESS>/32 that -j REDIRECT to the squid
[13:35] <sriramoman> gambas seems to be gr8 for gui designing!
[13:35] <Klangdah> wich firewall should I install then ?
[13:35] <savage--> hmm, another debate tonight b/w the presidential candidates
[13:35] <savage--> ?
[13:35] <lbruno> Klangdah: huh. you are already doing the transparent redirect using iptables, right?
[13:35] <Pici> savage--: Try ##politics, not #ubuntu
[13:35] <Klangdah> yes
[13:35] <nojoints> hello, is there any way to get powertop to run in conky? i've searched on google but i can't find anything
[13:35] <adityag> i stopped one command(process) by using "CTRL+Z" and when i again run it, i get error "another copy is running. Aborting." . how to quit that process ?
[13:36] <lbruno> Klangdah: it's the same thing
[13:36] <sriramoman> Klangdah, use iptables, with something like firestarter as a frontend
[13:36] <lbruno> Klangdah: but you'll have to write the webapp for it
[13:36] <T_Davis> in terminal type fd and quit the program properly
[13:36] <Pici> adityag: you could type 'fg' in that terminal to bring it back to the foreground.
[13:36] <waj> How to mount an NTFS partition by default, when Ubuntu boots
[13:36] <T_Davis> sorry fd
[13:36] <Klangdah> used to redirect : iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination <IP_ADDRESS>:3128
[13:36] <Klangdah> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp –dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128
[13:37] <adityag> Pici: fg , i can see that process, but how do i get it back
[13:37] <waj> How to mount an NTFS partition by default, when Ubuntu boots
[13:38] <LjL> !mountwindows | waj
[13:38] <Pici> adityag: What do you mean by 'you can see it?'
[13:39] <waj> Thanx, will try it now
[13:39] <T_Davis> hey pici is it fg or fd?
[13:39] <adityag> bunk
[13:39] <Pici> T_Davis: fg
[13:40] <^Cheeky> anyone could assst me with a sound problem with ubuntu ?
[13:40] <linny> the bbc plugin in totem is that sposed to do tv ? i only get radio ?
[13:41] <IamSOG> what is mythbuntu ??
[13:42] <GleepGlop> Distro for Myth TV
[13:42] <IamSOG> oh?
[13:43] <IamSOG> because I saw Mythbuntu Control centre for download in the Debian packge managment software
[13:43] <GleepGlop> IamSOG: yeah, never tried it. i tried geexbox and liked it though
[13:43] <GleepGlop> IamSOG: i think most of the Myth software is in the repos
[13:44] <Ward1983> omg
[13:45] <Ward1983> jim_p, ActionParsnip reloading the module didnt help but right-clicking the network panel and switching wireless network to off and back on fixed it
[13:46] <jim_p> Ward1983: do you use network manager? stop it, exit it, uninstall it and delete tha .deb file that installs it
[13:49] <Ward1983> jim_p, why?
[13:50] <Ward1983> jim_p, its nm-applet
[13:50] <kibibyte> how its possible that apache start with uid owner = www-data
[13:50] <kibibyte> i mean pid
[13:50] <jrib> kibibyte: that happens by default when you install from the repositories
[13:50] <krupa^> hello all! hey,i want to rename a file via ssh, i do "rename /bin/bbb /bin/aaa" and its not work.. there is any other command for rename a file? ... thanks!
[13:50] <jim_p> Ward1983: because it is responsible for all sorts of network abnormalities, wireless and wired one
[13:50] <denialh> krupa^: use mv
[13:50] <kibibyte> jrib, but how
[13:50] <krupa^> mv is not move?
[13:50] <denialh> it is
[13:51] <Ward1983> jim_p, nm-applet?
[13:51] <hudda> test
[13:51] <krupa^> ahh ok
[13:51] <denialh> but mv /bin/bbb /bin/aaa does rename it ;)
[13:51] <krupa^> got the idea
[13:51] <jrib> krupa^: moving a file is the same as renaming it :)
[13:51] <krupa^> yeah, windows will never get it
[13:51] <krupa^> :D
[13:51] <jim_p> Ward1983: a friend of mine connected ONCE on his neighbors wireless router, and for a week network manager was trying to connect to that network NO MATTER WHAT!!!
[13:51] <Pici> krupa^: 'rename' is more for mass renaming files, use mv for single files.
[13:51] <jrib> kibibyte: why?  Do you want to read the source code or just know where the setting is?
[13:52] <krupa^> i hope somewhen ubuntu will be good work space for Web developers... not its still not there :/
[13:52] <kibibyte> jrib im writing application and i want it to be runnig as non-root user
[13:52] <CoRnJuLiOx> glxinfo | grep direct says 'Yes' now, but glxgears still reports an FPS of less than 1000
[13:52] <CoRnJuLiOx> is this normal, or no? i always thought you should be getting +2000 FPS with direct rendering enabled
[13:53] <catfox> hi all - any ideas why today's ibex update has given me a black screen when starting X? i hear the desktop audio, but nothing else (using stock X radeon driver)
[13:54] <^Cheeky> anyone could sparesome time please?
[13:54] <jesepe> how do I kill an application in the terminal on 8.04?  ctrl+c just puts things to sleep..
[13:55] <jrib> kibibyte: don't know about the internals.  You could either read the apache2ctl source or ask in the channel for the language you are programming in
[13:57] <ancientadm> jesepe: tried using kill?
[13:57] <remoteCTR1> can eclipse only do java or also c/c++?
[13:58] <catfox> remoteCTR1 there are plugin's for c/c++
[13:58] <remoteCTR1> catfox: nice, any idea how to get/install those?
[13:58] <Moirae> jesepe, Hit alt+f2 to bring up the run dialog and type in: xkill. Hit enter, your mouse will change into a cross, click on the app you want to kill.
[13:58] <Moirae> This is done without using the terminal
[13:59] <catfox> jesepe: ctrl + z will end a task
[13:59] <Staale> Is there a python 2.6 available, or how would I go about updating the 2.5 package to 2.6?
[13:59] <jrib> jesepe, catfox: ctrl-z generally suspends tasks.  ctrl-c asks the task to terminate
[13:59] <Pici> catfox, jesepe: generally ctrl+z will stop a task, not end/kill it.
[13:59] <catfox> remoteCTR1: in eclipse help menu, there's an item for installing updates and new plugins
[13:59] <^Cheeky> can anyone pleasehelp me witha sound problem iam haveing with ubuntu >
[14:00] <LjL> Staale: no Python 2.6 available, and i very strongly suggest that you don't try updating it in other ways, since very much on Ubuntu depends on python
[14:00] <remoteCTR1> catfox: very nice, thx dude
[14:00] <catfox> np
[14:00] <jrib> Staale: make altinstall in your HOME should be safe if you just want to play (see the python docs)
[14:00] <morningwalker> is it safe to isntall SELinux in ubuntu??
[14:01] <Ward1983> ffs
[14:01] <Ward1983> what do i need to do to get this retarded driver working
[14:01] <Ward1983> can i somehow get to a 2.6.23 kernel? that one should work, 2.6.24 does not work with this driver
[14:01] <krupa^> where can i suggest a features / improvement to Ubuntu developers?
[14:01] <krupa^> any offical url?
[14:01] <Mohammad[B]> how to i can install python 2.6 in ubuntu, i can ?
[14:01] <jrib> !brainstorm | krupa^
[14:01] <morningwalker> is it safe to isntall SELinux in ubuntu??
[14:01] <morningwalker> !SELinux
[14:02] <maniheer> irc at school!!!!!
[14:02] <LjL> !offtopic | maniheer
[14:03] <neil_d> for a TB drive am I better of using reiser fs ?
[14:03]  * Mohammad[B] is listening to: METALLICA - REload - FUEL - (1:09/4:28)
[14:03] <LjL> Mohammad[B]: no scripts, thank you.
[14:03] <jrib> Mohammad[B]: turn that off please
[14:04] <Mohammad[B]> oooh
[14:04] <Mohammad[B]> sorry
[14:04] <Mohammad[B]> okay !
[14:04] <^Cheeky> maniheer, lol
[14:04] <Mohammad[B]> FloodBot1, help
[14:04] <LjL> !bot > Mohammad[B]    (Mohammad[B], see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:05] <Mohammad[B]> LjL, i know !
[14:05] <Pici> Mohammad[B]: Then why are you asking a bot a question?
[14:05] <LjL> Mohammad[B]: then why are you spamming the channel with messages to floodbot?
[14:05] <Mohammad[B]> ok ok, sorry !
[14:05] <Mohammad[B]> bye
[14:06] <^Cheeky> anyone?
[14:07] <OsamaK> Is there a Mono 2.0 package supported by Ubuntu community? Or at least tested on it?
[14:08] <ikonia> ^Cheeky: saying anyone is pointless, if they didn't see the question anyone doesn't tell them what the question is, if they don't know the answer saying "anyone" won't help them know the answer
[14:08] <SlimeyPete> anyone else using likewise-open? It works okay for me but every time I open a terminal there's a pause while it logs in; is there any way aorund this?
[14:08] <Staale> I am having problems with python in xubuntu 8.04.1 - python is setup with berkely db 4.4, but linked against libdb4.6
[14:09] <morth> hello all
[14:09] <maniheer> hi morth
[14:09] <ikonia> Staale python isn't linked against berkly
[14:10] <Staale> ikonia: well, I get conflicting versions in python
[14:10] <Staale> bsdb.__version__ is 4.4, bsddb.dbtables is 4.6
[14:10] <ikonia> Staale run ldd against python and you'll see it's not linked against berkly
[14:11] <Staale> ikonia: something is though
[14:11] <sluimers> hello?
[14:12] <draven1005> I'm having a strange problem.  I just installed 6.06 server.  I can ping anything from the server.  However, I can not ping the server from a machine that I have no tried to ping from the server.  In other words,  from Server I can ping A.  From B, I can not ping Server.  From Server, I can ping B, then after that point, B can ping server.
[14:12] <Staale> ikonia: ./lib-dynload/_bsddb.so -> libdb-4.6.so
[14:12] <ikonia> Staale what are you running that against
[14:12] <ikonia> Staale: what command did you run against ldd I mean
[14:12] <sluimers> I alsohave a strange problem, I have Ubuntu 8.04 LTS and it crashes often randomly
[14:12] <sluimers> the screen just freezes up
[14:13] <sluimers> and then I cannot even move my mouse
[14:13] <bratz_girl> www.maria sharrapova.com
[14:13] <Staale> ikonia: /usr/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/_bsddb.so
[14:13] <ikonia> Staale what command are you running ldd against
[14:14] <Staale> ikonia: I ran it against the _bsddb.so file
[14:14] <ikonia> Staale: thats not what I said do
[14:14] <ikonia> Staale: run it against python and you'll see it's not linked against berkly
[14:14] <Staale> ikonia: yeah, I checked python, and it's not linked to libdb
[14:14] <wers> where can I get stardict dictionaries?
[14:14] <wers> the site is down
[14:15] <Staale> ikonia: however, I still have a problem as bsddb.__version__ doesn't match that of the underlying c library that is used
[14:15] <ikonia> Staale ok so you acknolwedge this isn't a python problem,
[14:16] <ikonia> Staale: so your saying that berklydb from the repo is linked against the wrong version /
[14:16] <Staale> ikonia: yeah, different from the version that is coded into the python files
[14:16] <ikonia> Staale: ok, so which python files exaclty (sorry if I'm approaching this back to front)
[14:17] <Staale> ikonia: bsddb.__version__ says 4.4.something, bsddb.dbtables.version() says 4.6, I am looking into the source now
[14:18] <qb_sleep> anyone around?
[14:18] <Staale> ikonia it looks like the version is still read from the actual c library
[14:18] <Indoctrine> Yes'm
[14:18] <qb_sleep> whats the command to open a file browser as sudo?
[14:18] <qb_sleep> say
[14:18] <qb_sleep> gksudo ____
[14:18] <Pici> qb_sleep: nautilus, and you should be very careful with that.
[14:18] <Indoctrine> gksudo and then the directory
[14:19] <Indoctrine> If you know what you want to open, you'd be better off doing sudo gedit filepath
[14:19] <qb_sleep> well... my /var/www has no permissions set for me =)
[14:19] <Pici> !gksudo | Indoctrine
[14:19] <callan_> hello!everyone!
[14:20] <sluimers> I have a strange problem, I have Ubuntu 8.04 LTS and it crashes often randomly, for no reason at all.
[14:20] <Staale> ikonia: trying to create a minimal testcase for you
[14:20] <ikonia> ok
[14:20] <sluimers> The screen just freezes up and the only thing that is still working is the off button.
[14:21] <genii> sluimers: Try running memtest so see if your RAM is going bad. Also maybe some hard drive diagnostics from the manufacturer of your drive
[14:21] <dakira> does vzfs support hardlinks, so that I can use rsyncs --link-dest parameter?
[14:21] <marius> could someone help me with my wireless not workig?
[14:22] <marius> http://pastebin.com/m298da8a5
[14:22] <bobertdos> !wifi | marius -- What card do you have?
[14:23] <^Cheeky> coudl any one tell me how i can see wat program are using my sound  so i can kill it coz i am having a hard time playing online videos with sound?
[14:24] <pronoy_> how to uninstall wine software ??
[14:24] <marius>  Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[14:24] <Staale> ikonia: the problem might lie in the database I am trying to open and not python. I just thought things would be backwards compatible
[14:24] <jrib> pronoy_: how did you install it?
[14:24] <Staale> ikonia: because I can create and read databases fine, just not the existing db I have
[14:24] <pronoy_> jrib: using...setup.exe
[14:24] <DasEi1>  pronoy_:sudo apt-get remove wine
[14:24] <ikonia> Staale I've had similar problems with sqlite
[14:25] <pronoy_> DasEil: I don't want to remove wine...i want to remove softwares installed in it
[14:25] <jrib> pronoy_: ah, you mean an actual program you installed through wine.  Try the Applications -> Wine -> Uninstall Wine Software  menu item
[14:25] <DasEi1>  pronoy_:I see, software in wine, don't use my cmd
[14:25] <pronoy_> jrib: i installed photoshop but now when i click on uninstall nothings happening
[14:25] <wers> what dictionary do you use? i mean, an offline one
[14:26] <jrib> pronoy_: try #winehq then
[14:26] <xomp> are there any other options for the adobe flash stuff in ubuntu? It seems the nonfree flash fails on certain websites and causes firefox to crash and just about every other browser to crash as well.
[14:26] <xomp> !flash
[14:26] <bobertdos> marius: Alright, well, why don't you give that documentation a once-over, if you please and let us know what you think.
[14:26] <GreedyB> Can anyone tell me why all of my drives change path on restart?  I've been trying to use fstab to auto mount everything but they keep changing :(
[14:26] <jrib> xomp: there's gnash and swfdec
[14:26] <jrib> !uuid | GreedyB
[14:26] <jrib> GreedyB: use UUIDs
[14:26] <xomp> thanks jrib I'm checking into them now
[14:26] <genii> GreedyB: UUIDs
[14:26] <bobertdos> xomp: I recommend getting the latest build of flash 10.
[14:26] <GreedyB> ahhh ok
[14:26] <kbrosnan> xomp: and the official Adobe release
[14:26] <genii> jrib: heh
[14:27] <GreedyB> thank you xomp genii
[14:27] <jrib> xomp: the issue is really because of libflashsupport (gets flash to use pulseaudio).  If you remove that, your firefox shouldn't crash but you won't be able to heard flash sound and other sound at the same time
[14:27] <xomp> bobertdos, can I get that from adobe's site? or is that in synaptic somewhere?
[14:27] <bobertdos> xomp: Adobe's site, the labs :)
[14:27] <kbrosnan> xomp: labs.adobe.com
[14:27] <anakln> Hello all, can someone please recommend whether I should use an extended partition to manage a 400 GB harddisk? i am asking because, I think I've had nothing but bad experiences withit on linux
[14:28] <xomp> awesome! thanks everyone!
[14:28] <jrib> xomp, bobertdos, kbrosnan: flash 10 is in hardy-backports too
[14:28] <ancientadm> pronoy: how's the uninstallation going?
[14:28] <bobertdos> xomp: but be sure flash 9 and libflashsupport are COMPLETELY purged before you use it
[14:28] <pronoy_> ancientadm: not happening
[14:29] <bobertdos> jrib: It is? Hmm, I was not aware, although it's probably beta 2 or something along those lines.
[14:29] <jrib> bobertdos: hmm, maybe not after reading the whole version number: <IP_ADDRESS>+<IP_ADDRESS>5ubuntu1~hardy1+really<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2 heh
[14:29] <OsamaK> Hello! I installed Mono 2.0 on top of Mono 1.x in my Ubuntu computer. I need to uninstall Mono 2.0 right now, any idea how to do so?
[14:29] <ancientadm> pronoy: i suppose you've already been to the ubuntu forums about the issue? found a link here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=707527
[14:30] <pronoy_> ancientadm: when i click on uninstall the photoshop dialog box opens but when i click next nothing happens
[14:30] <jrib> xomp: my mistake, flash 10 probably isn't in -backports
[14:30] <bobertdos> xomp: and even it is, it isn't up to date
[14:31] <pronoy_> ancientadm: man i'll have to delete the files !! what a drag....but how do i remove the listing in the uninstall menu ??
[14:31] <ancientadm> pronoy_: tbh i've never installed any software on wine.... just running the apps from the other OS i'm dual-booted with using wine.. seems to work though. What's your setup?
[14:32] <pronoy_> ancientadm: fully linux ubuntu 8.04
[14:32] <Pici> pronoy_: You may be able to get better help in #winehq, they only do Wine support there.
[14:32] <pronoy_> Pici: if they respond !
[14:32] <ancientadm> pronoy_: they be quiet there?
[14:32] <Pici> pronoy_: Most channels are not as populated as here, although they may be better at answering a question.
[14:33] <^Cheeky> can anyone help me with this sound problem iam having with ubuntu .. it doesnt play sound with my videos on youtube or google video i have it set on ALSa but still nothing , the sound used to work for me earlier could anyone help me ?
[14:33] <pronoy_> ancientadm: yeah
[14:33] <pronoy_> Pici: oh it is populated....
[14:33] <smelia1> hello any one tried to make GPRS modem bandluxe C120 work in ubuntu hardy ?
[14:33] <pronoy_> Pici: 50 pc as here
[14:33] <^Cheeky> i also can play nomal mp3 locally and sound works but not in my browser
[14:34] <bobertdos> ^Cheeky: Define "earlier"
[14:34] <^Cheeky> bobertdos, a few hours ago
[14:34] <morth> Could anyone suggest something i should learn? im new to Linux "Ubuntu" and i just learned the Basic of the Terminal and some of the commands, is there anything else i should learn?
[14:34] <Pici> ^Cheeky: You can install libflashsupport to allow flash to play concurrently with other sounds, but it may make firefox/flash crash more./
[14:34] <ikonia> ^Cheeky: from the comments you made earlier it sounds like your machine a.) has hardware issues b.) is suffering a memory leak
[14:34] <smelia1> bandluxe C120 ( HSDPA MODEM ) *
[14:34] <xomp> jrib, bobertdos, I got it installed now, my mom thanks you guys lol, she lives on myyearbook.com and it's flash intensive.
[14:34] <bobertdos> ^Cheeky: hehe, okay, well you can try restarting Alsa.
[14:35] <ancientadm> pronoy_: i'll poke around some more on the net
[14:35] <DasEi1> morth:google fstab
[14:35] <bobertdos> xomp: Hooray! :D
[14:35] <^Cheeky> ikonia, a memory leak is that bad .. how would that happen .. my sound used to work find before
[14:35] <pronoy_> ancientadm: the only option they say is to remove it directly......
[14:35] <marius> me again
[14:35] <marius> wireless not working
[14:36] <DasEi1> !wireless
[14:36] <ikonia> ^Cheeky: possibly due to the problems your having with your hardware
[14:36] <^Cheeky> bobertdos, restart alsa .. how .. i know if i restart my computer it works fine
[14:36] <marius> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[14:36] <ancientadm> pronoy_: that's just one way.
[14:36] <DasEi1> !broadcom|marius
[14:36] <pronoy_> ancientadm: ; /
[14:36] <^Cheeky> ikonia, is there a way i can check like devic manager in windows if some of my hardwares is not installed correctly ?
[14:36] <bobertdos> ^Cheeky: In the terminal: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[14:36] <ikonia> ^Cheeky thats not the problem
[14:37] <ancientadm> pronoy_: Why don't we both search? http://forum.winehq.org then use the search link to look for "uninstall"
[14:38] <pronoy_> gotcha
[14:38] <^Cheeky> ikonia, wats not the problem .. the alsa mixer?
[14:39] <ikonia> ^Cheeky hardware not being installed correctly
[14:39] <ancientadm> pronoy_: this looks closest to the most helpful link so far: http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=1010&highlight=uninstalling
[14:40] <ancientadm> pronoy_: this one points to uninstalling specific programs http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=1321&highlight=uninstalling
[14:40] <^Cheeky> is there way i can pin point which i need to get fixed? coz .. sometime now .. my compyer just freezes.. and then goes back to normal?
[14:41] <bobertdos> This is not a big deal, but Grub is searching for its splash image in a partition that does not exist. How do I corret this?
[14:41] <ikonia> ^Cheeky it sounds like you have hardware errors
[14:41] <ikonia> bobertdos change the splashimage parameter in the menu.lst
[14:41] <^Cheeky> bobertdos, hey i restardted alsa but it doesnt seem to have worked
[14:42] <DasEi1> ^Cheeky: install conky
[14:42] <^Cheeky> ikonia, wat should i do about this
[14:42] <^Cheeky> DasEi1, conky ?
[14:42] <ikonia> ^Cheeky visit a PC shop to get your hardware tested
[14:42] <bobertdos> ikonia: Hmm, for as many times as I've been in my menu.lst, I seem to have overlooked that parameter. Let's see..........
[14:42] <IcyPolecat> more alsa problems. Sound worked fine until a re install now I get No Mixer and the following response to alsamixer - alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory ... help
[14:42] <lukosanthropos> is there a way to get ubuntu to authenticate via a windows active directory server
[14:43] <DasEi1> ^Cheeky: conky is a system monitor showing u various infos about running processes
[14:43] <ikonia> lukosanthropos kerberos
[14:43] <^Cheeky> DasEi1, thats cool ill give it a try
[14:44] <^Cheeky> dasdajs, would that show me wat hardware is failing?
[14:44] <DasEi1> ^Cheeky: sudo apt-get install conky && conky
[14:44] <^Cheeky> && = or?
[14:44] <ikonia> ^Cheeky no it won't
[14:44] <anakln> Hello all, I really like Xfce over gnome/kde. But the thing that bothers me most is that it keeps restoring windows/apps whenever I logout/reboot. fyi, I've also disabled 'save session on logout' option
[14:45] <DasEi1> ^Cheeky: two cmd's in one line, or seperate them without the  "&&"
[14:45] <anakln> Is there anything else I should look into?
[14:45] <^Cheeky> ikonia, oh... so wat do i do ? i mean it worked fine for two twaks tillnow
[14:45] <anakln> Thanks.
[14:45] <paolo_> Hi guys! I'm trying to mount an external usb disk, lsusb sees it, but fdisk not. Do I lack any package installed? thank you!
[14:45] <ikonia> ^Cheeky 1.) re-install ubuntu if you think it's software related 2.) take it to a hardware shop for testing
[14:45] <IcyPolecat> paolo_: what's the reponse to #mount /dev/???
[14:47] <IcyPolecat> paolo_: also can you pastebin the relvent lines from lusb?
[14:47] <bobertdos> ikonia: Let's say my menu.lst has no splashimage parameter and if not, should I add it and what should it be?
[14:47] <paolo_> IcyPolecat, i can't issue e #mount /dev/??? because the disk isn't seen as a disk. sudo fdisk -l doesn't see it, ls /dev/disk/by-path doesn't see it
[14:47] <^Cheeky> i dunno if they would test my computer .. with linux on it and thats costs that i can pay out of my pocket i could re-install it but it would be hard for me to rememeber wat i configured to have my ubuntu working fine again ... well which just broke
[14:47] <paolo_> IcyPolecat, what lines?
[14:47] <voltage__> ^Cheeky: you can run a lot of diagnostics yourself get a copy of ultimate boot cd full (google) and test your ram, hdd and CPU for starters
[14:48] <IcyPolecat> paolo_: so what shows up in lusb? and what does dmesg print when you've plugged it in?
[14:48] <ikonia>  ^Cheeky hardware tests do not care what OS your using
[14:49] <paolo_> IcyPolecat, lsusb tells: "Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04b4:6830 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. USB-2.0 IDE Adapter"
[14:49] <^Cheeky> voltage__, is ultimate boot the name of the diagnostic tool ?
[14:50] <o7andrew> (just new to ubuntu) :: in synaptic, what is my codecs package?
[14:50] <DasEi1>  ^Cheeky:google ultimate boot cd
[14:50] <ikonia> ^Cheeky ##hardware maybe able to help you with hardware issues
[14:50] <DasEi1>  o7andrew: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:51] <DasEi1>  o7andrew: also install vlc
[14:51] <o7andrew> xubuntu worked perfectly with my wireless network card + all graphics (intel) too, so I'm v. happy with this install
[14:51] <Vlet> Is there a vmware player application that does not require a gui?
[14:51] <electronplusplu> hi
[14:51] <o7andrew> DasEi1: you don't like this totem?
[14:52] <ikonia> Vlet to work with vmware - no, to act with virtualization, yes, kvm
[14:52] <DasEi1> !best| o7andrew
[14:52] <Vlet> ikonia: Thanks, I'll look into it.
[14:52] <electronplusplu> does somebody knows the equivalent function of the fuction kbhit()?
[14:52] <HoaxKey> Hi guys, ive been trying out ubuntu for the past month and have finally decided it is not for me, could i please get some help removing it and collapsing my ubuntu related partitions into one so my windows can access them
[14:52] <IcyPolecat> paolo_: and does anything show up when you run #dmesg?
[14:52] <voltage__> ^Cheeky: It's the name of the disk. it's a ISO image you burn to disk and your computer boots to it (Same as your comp boots the the ubuntu cd when you insert it) except it gives you diagnostic tools instead of and OS
[14:52] <DasEi1>  o7andrew: vlc brings (almost all needed) codecs with it, thats whay
[14:52] <DasEi1> *why
[14:52] <Vlet> ikonia: Do you happen to know if kvm can run vmware 'images'?
[14:53] <VSpike> what's the chance I can hotplug a sata drive?
[14:53] <o7andrew> lol >sweet dude
[14:53] <paolo_> IcyPolecat, http://paste.ubuntu.com/55001/ is what dmesg shows
[14:53] <erUSUL> VSpike: the ones i tried worked (mostly ReactOS and Haiku images to try out)
[14:53] <electronplusplu> does somebody knows the equivalent function of the fuction kbhit()? bump
[14:54] <^Cheeky> voltage__, would i be able to get the output in .txt ?
[14:54] <smacfarl> livecd of 8.10 beta does not identify my graphics card, does ubuntu still use xorg.conf in 8.10?
[14:54] <VSpike> erUSUL: I have a faulty one.  reading in the first 1.5MB causes the drive controller to die, and eventually the device disappears.  Rebooting brings it back, but just wondering if I can remove and re-insert it.
[14:54] <VSpike> erUSUL: Maybe with a quick trip to the freezer in the interim :)
[14:54] <KR-data> anyone who know the easiest way to set up a vpn between Ubuntu and a Windows XP?
[14:55] <VSpike> KR-data: probably openvpn
[14:55] <ikonia> Vlet no it can't
[14:55] <bobertdos> smacfarl: Yes, but come over to #ubuntu+1 if you  want to talk about Intrepid, please.
[14:55] <erUSUL> VSpike: oopps my comment was for Vlet ...
[14:55] <erUSUL> Vlet: the ones i tried worked (mostly ReactOS and Haiku images to try out)
[14:55] <VSpike> erUSUL: heh :) damn
[14:56] <IcyPolecat> paolo_: do other dirves work ok? and do you get anything further in dmesg after a while (i.e. a couple of minutes)?
[14:56] <IcyPolecat> paolo_: *drives
[14:56] <klos> is there a channel for ubuntu server ?
[14:57] <voltage__> ^Cheeky: Basically you boot to it, and it lanuches diagnostics (you just pick which one). if your ram is bad when you run memtest you'll get errors for example. if your hard drive fails diagnostics you'll get "Device has bad blocks or Error" if it's ok you'll get a pass or drive ok. CPU same thing, test pass or warining/error. some give you the option to save to disk but is of little use unless RMAing or something
[14:57] <spikyjt> yes #ubuntu-server
[14:57] <klos> haha thx :0
[14:57] <paolo_> IcyPolecat, el disco principal (/dev/sda) funciona perfectamente
[14:58] <^Cheeky> voltage__, let me run this cd .. i hope its notthing to do with my hardware
[14:58] <voltage__> give the memtest 2 passes at least
[14:58] <||cw> I've got a system that's been upgraded a few times, started at 6.06 I think and now is 8.04.1.  trying to compile a 3rd party kernel module it acts like it's compiling for a xen kernel even though no xen stuff has ever been installed.  tried an in-tree full kernel compile as well, it tries to compile a xen kernel unless I pass -arch to make-kpkg, but the resulting deb is still linux-xenu...  wtf happen how do i fix it? dpkg-architecture says i386.
[14:58] <voltage__> CPU 1/2 hr and full drive diagnostics
[14:59] <IcyPolecat> paolo_: understood but that's not going through the USB controller is it... at the moment it looks like an issue with the module responsible for high speed usb2.0 functionality.
[14:59] <o7andrew> DasEi1: it's only a floppy disk full of files, thats great
[14:59] <S4nD3r> Hi.Id like to use a multi-protocol in my gnome, I dont know which to choose? (I need MSN, Jabber and GTalk)
[15:00] <DasEi1>  o7andrew: ? don't understand what you are saying ..
[15:00] <marius> how is broadcom channel called?
[15:00] <||cw> S4nD3r: pidgin
[15:00] <Moirae> S4nD3r, Ubuntu comes with Pidgin
[15:00] <Moirae> it's under applications > internet
[15:00] <smacfarl> bobertdos: are you in #ubuntu+1 because I was there for about an hour last night and was not even dignified with a response to my questions.
[15:00] <o7andrew> I was just commenting on how small the ubuntu-restricted-extras was
[15:01] <S4nD3r> Oh. Sure. I will try it
[15:01] <S4nD3r> thanks
[15:01] <DasEi1> !who| o7andrew
[15:01] <DasEi1>  o7andrew: I see
[15:02] <^Cheeky> ikonia, it worked i got it
[15:03] <ikonia> ?
[15:03] <^Cheeky> voltage__, i got my problem solved
[15:03] <bobertdos> smacfarl: Yeah, I am, although because everything is still unstable, my best advice would be to just be patient anwyway.
[15:03] <^Cheeky> ikonia, wat i did wat looked in my process list .. and killed my broser and started the video and it works
[15:04] <ikonia> ^Cheeky that sounds like it fixed a symptom, not the problem
[15:04] <paolo_> IcyPolecat, a kernel module? what?
[15:04] <^Cheeky> ikonia, so its noth the plug in by adobe thats messing me up
[15:05] <elTigre> Hi! Template question: How can I do an "if" about the length of a list?
[15:05] <Pici> elTigre: Template? For what?
[15:05] <elTigre> in a template
[15:05] <albuntu> elTigre : ubuntu room here. go in #php for that
[15:06] <elTigre> sorre
[15:06] <elTigre> sorry wrong channel (not php)
[15:06] <scuser> hi all, where could I find kdb5_ldap_util ?
[15:06] <IcyPolecat> paolo_: sorry - the bit of ubuntu that handles USB drives isn't working properly. You could try removing the uhci_hcd module and seeing if that makes a difference. You can always reenable it later
[15:06] <albuntu> scuser : have you tried aptitude search kdb5_ldap_util ?
[15:06] <DasEi1>  scuser:apt-cache search kdb*
[15:07] <dmsuperman> I'm trying to reinstall my video driver, and it builds the kernel module (nvidia.ko) then says it failed to load the kernel module. I've recently patched my kernel, so that explains why (it was buitl against another one) but how can I get it to rebuild it?
[15:07] <paolo_> IcyPolecat, ok, thank you
[15:07] <o7andrew> DasEi1: I just installed those extras, which said it included flash, but restarted firefox and still have no flash for youtube?
[15:07] <IrishDavid> how do i link to another file from my bashrc?
[15:07] <dude> o7andrew, hey maaaan
[15:07] <IcyPolecat> paolo_: to remove run the following in a terminal: sudo modprobe -r ehic_hcd
[15:07] <o7andrew> dude: dude!
[15:07] <DasEi1>  o7andrew: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree mozzplugger
[15:07] <DasEi1> !flash
[15:08] <IcyPolecat> paolo_: and then reboot your machine. to re enable simply run sudo modprobe ehic_hcd and then reboot
[15:08] <dude> o7andrew, yeah maaaannn
[15:08] <scuser> albuntu: yes I tried that but it didn't gave any results
[15:08] <IrishDavid> as in i have another file with items I would like inside my bashrc and want to type a line into bashrc to bring that data in (without copy and paste)
[15:08] <albuntu> !Restricted | o7andrew
[15:08] <DasEi1> scuser: also can look in paketmanager, else packet doesn't exist
[15:08] <ancientadm> IrishDavid: can't you open the two files in separate screens?
[15:08] <smacfarl> bobertdos: so this is my problem. I reported my graphics card bugs last year. Went through a whole round of emails that led to a request to try out the new linux kernel in the alpha. I figured I would wait for the beta, which I did. And now the Live CD works worse for my card then the 8.04 live CD does. This is a problem. I would love to understand who I can talk to about this.
[15:09] <abra> hi all
[15:09] <scunizi> I installed phpmyadmin from the repos.. how do I start it?
[15:09] <Pici> scuser: krb5-kdc-ldap
[15:10] <Pici> scuser: apt-file search kdb5_ldap_util
[15:10] <albuntu> scunizi : localhost/phpmyadmin
[15:10] <abra> i have problem with boot
[15:11] <scunizi> albuntu, thanks
[15:11] <albuntu> scunizi : np
[15:11] <IrishDavid> it's bashrc, they are config files, just want to know how to link to include the settings in the other file (ancientadm)
[15:11] <abra> kinit:trying to resume from
[15:11] <S4nD3r> pidgin doest support jabber
[15:11] <IcyPolecat> anyone know where to start diagnosing an alsa issue?
[15:11] <albuntu> scuser : see this link http://mailman.mit.edu/pipermail/kerberos/2008-February/013073.html
[15:12] <heret|c> IcyPolecat, /join #alsa :)
[15:12] <Pici> IrishDavid: just execute the other file from within the new file.
[15:12] <trilobiti> IrishDavid: you mean you want to have sript1.sh to include whatever script2.sh has ?
[15:12] <IcyPolecat> heret|c: fair enough
[15:12] <Pici> !sound > IcyPolecat
[15:12] <IrishDavid> yes - trilobiti ; how Pici?
[15:13] <ancientadm> IrishDavid: not sure if you can just use #include
[15:13] <bobertdos> smacfarl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing
[15:14] <Pici> IrishDavid: Just like you'd execute it from the shell. ./filename
[15:15] <trilobiti> IrishDavid: it's called sourcing. At where you want script2.sh to be inserted in script1.sh, you enter a line:  ".  /path/to/script2.sh"
[15:15] <hussein_> hello
[15:15] <Freija> hi
[15:15] <trilobiti> IrishDavid: Note closely the line starts with a dot, then whitespace, then the path of script2.sh
[15:15] <ikonia>  ^Cheeky well seeing as a.) your machine crashes randomly b.) your audio and video plugins crash randomly I'd say not
[15:15] <scuser> Pici: I'm using ubuntu 8.04 if that make any difference? and I couldn't find anything about it although there are some resources talking about it on the web
[15:15] <pepecharro> how do you make work an LG touchsecreen on hardy?
[15:16] <o7andrew> dude: rio de janeiro! say hello to all the saints for me
[15:16] <cosmodad> how do I add more locales? dpkg-reconfigure locales doesn't give me any interactive options.
[15:16] <albuntu> scuser : is ldap backend what you are looking for ?
[15:17] <scuser> albuntu: no I have already ldap working but I want to make kerberos search in its db instead of flat files and I need this utility to properly configure the kerberos to do that
[15:18] <IrishDavid> thanks trilobiti exactly what i wanted
[15:18] <albuntu> scuser : there is a launchpad url for this problem and it seems there is a solution for debian. you can try that maybe -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krb5/+bug/208576
[15:19] <albuntu> the package you need is krb5 but from what i see it is not implemented
[15:19] <kinshuksunil> hi room
[15:19] <albuntu> scuser : read carefully there. they explain it well
[15:19] <trilobiti> IrishDavid: Pici: I think sourcing a script from within another script works differently than executing the script from within another script. Sourcing implies that the lines are inserted and everything is executed in one shell and the variables are preserved. Executing fires up a second shell and the two scripts are executed separately, and also their env variables don't clutter.
[15:20] <dude> o7andrew, why rio man?
[15:20] <kinshuksunil> i need some help with ubuntu 8.10 beta... i m a noob :( and my pc is not working
[15:20] <albuntu> !ask | kinshuksunil
[15:20] <DasEi1> !ibex|kinshuksunil
[15:20] <kinshuksunil> thx ubottu
[15:20] <pepecharro> how do you make work an LG touchsecreen on hardy?
[15:21] <chetan> hi
[15:21] <ancientadm> poke it?
[15:21] <trilobiti> IrishDavid: http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/shell-scripting/ch10s02.html
[15:21] <albuntu> pepecharro : power it on. lol
[15:21] <rdz> hi all. how to make nvidia-settings changes permanent? i would like to keep 'sync to vblank' enabled all the time. but whenever i reboot the setting is gone. any ideas?
[15:21] <aet419> i'm tring to switch sound device OSS mixer to alsa mixer from yesterday dut can't able to change it
[15:22] <bujar> i am using ubuntu right now, i have access to a putty KDE environement and i do not have the root password, i want to install a torrent manager
[15:22] <bujar> help
[15:22] <pepecharro> How do you calibrate an LG touchsecreen on hardy?
[15:22] <trilobiti> bujar: what do you mean ?
[15:22] <Freija> Hello, I use a Intel CorpoIntel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) on a Samsung M60 with Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition and I cannot connect to a wireless network
[15:22] <DasEi1> bujar: for installing soft you need rott-pw
[15:22] <bujar> how can i install a torrent program in a KDE environement without being root
[15:22] <DasEi1> bujar: for installing soft you need root-pw
[15:22] <kinshuksunil> need help troubleshooting my ubuntu 8.10 beta install... it does not progress beyond the log in screen :(
[15:22] <ikonia> bujar use sudo
[15:22] <ikonia> DasEi1: no you don't
[15:23] <trilobiti> bujar: you have remote connected with putty to an ubuntu with kde and want to install something remotely via text ?
[15:23] <ikonia> kinshuksunil: you've been suggested to join #ubuntu+1 for 8.10 beta issues
[15:23] <bujar> no im using ubuntu right now
[15:23] <bujar> i have access to a linux server which has KDE and Gnome
[15:23] <DasEi1> ikonia:how will apt work without it ?
[15:23] <trilobiti> bujar: you know the name of the package you want to install?
[15:23] <pepecharro> when you touch on the screen the mouse does not follow , it shows in a diferent position
[15:23] <kinshuksunil> ikonia: i cant see any activity on the ubuntu+1 channel.. so asked my question heer too... sorry
[15:23] <IrishDavid> how do i make home directories private by default in ubuntu? - i.e. so that all users cant see everyones files
[15:23] <munkey092092> need support for a hauwei E220 3.6Mb wireless modem (as in app supported as it is not ... these are very popular low price modems)
[15:24] <albuntu> bujar : you need root access to install anything
[15:24] <chetan> which compiler should i use for c programming /
[15:24] <bujar> :(
[15:24] <ikonia> chetan gcc is the most common
[15:24] <IrishDavid> munkey092092, networkmanager 0.7 supports it - due in 8.10
[15:24] <trilobiti> bujar: torrent you mean a torrent client ?
[15:24] <albuntu> bujar : if you are albanian i may help you. from the name it seems so
[15:24]  * trilobiti is as well ;)
[15:24] <ancientadm> chetan: are you trying to learn or do you need to build a prog for someone?
[15:25] <munkey092092> good i get a few tests of it then :)
[15:25] <DasEi1>  albuntu:think so, too, but akonia said different
[15:25] <AdvoWork> hi there, ive got a folder which was a share, ive sudo smbumounted it, and am doing rm -r folder, its saying: rm: cannot lstat `completed': Input/output error  any ideas please?
[15:25] <lnc12> chetan, which form of c programing clean c or c++/c#/C?
[15:25] <albuntu> DasEi1 : you are albanian too ?
[15:25] <DasEi1>  albuntu:nope germanii
[15:25] <munkey092092> mebbe should bug huawei to compat it as well
[15:25] <IrishDavid> munkey092092, i had it running with the Huawei E160G and it was hit and miss, sometimes work sometimes not  (basically the same modem)
[15:26] <albuntu> DasEi1 : ok
[15:26] <munkey092092> this one installs windows driver auto but nothing on the linux
[15:26] <aet419> how can i change my sound device from Realtek ALC861 (OSS mixer) [HDA ATI SB] alsa mixer
[15:26] <DasEi1> ikonia:how will software be installed without root passwd ?
[15:26] <ikonia> DasEi1 yers
[15:26] <ikonia> yes
[15:26] <munkey092092> it shorts out and has crap ping but if you want to download a game or a linux or something for cheap ...
[15:26] <CommanderCool> hello! I have problems deleting a file in my trash folder. i dont even find any ".trash"-folders anywhere. help!
[15:26] <ikonia> id your user is authorized in sudo
[15:26] <ikonia> !trash |com
[15:26] <lnc12> see yall
[15:27] <ikonia> !trash CommanderCool
[15:27] <trilobiti> DasEi1: The sudo mechanism will ask for the user's own password, if he's allowed to administer.
[15:27] <CommanderCool> thx ikonia :)
[15:27] <pepecharro> How do you calibrate an LG touchsecreen on hardy? when you touch on the screen the mouse does not follow , it shows in a diferent position
[15:27] <DasEi1>  trilobiti:...and by default user is not allowed, so need root pw again
[15:28] <ikonia> DasEi1: by default the initial user is
[15:28] <trilobiti> DasEi1: you might see and check if the software you need has a way to be installed in userspace only. amsn for example, or googleEarth are such programs.
[15:28] <munkey092092> is compiling mean entering registry commands and files in programs folders?
[15:28] <munkey092092> *does
[15:29] <mib_6v1oki3x> how do I internet?
[15:29]  * greencookie is in love with tiling window managers. ^_^
[15:29] <ikonia> munkey092092 no
[15:29] <munkey092092> what is it? :-D
[15:29] <munkey092092> reading it?
[15:30] <DasEi1>  bujar:   did you get what ikonia said ?
[15:30] <jim_p> mib_6v1oki3x: like... connect to the internet? it depends on how you want to connect
[15:30] <ikonia> munkey092092 it's offtopic for this channel, look on tldp.org for a guide to compiling software
[15:30] <munkey092092> ok tnks
[15:30] <genii> munkey092092: compiling means for the computer to take source code like a something written in language C or such, and make from it an executable program
[15:30] <sunsetloungejc> I have a simple question...if I reinstall from the "Recover" function on the CD, will I lose my data files?
[15:31] <ancientadm> boom. yes.
[15:31] <ikonia> sunsetloungejc that's not a re-install option
[15:31] <AdvoWork> hi there, ive got a folder which was a share, ive sudo smbumounted it, and am doing rm -r folder, its saying: rm: cannot lstat `completed': Input/output error  any ideas please?
[15:31] <aet419> how can i change my sound device from Realtek ALC861 (OSS mixer) [HDA ATI SB] alsa mixer
[15:31] <munkey092092> ah i get it tnks to get the computer to do that
[15:31] <DasEi1>  sunsetloungejc: you can repair a sys with that, no reinstallation
[15:31] <sunsetloungejc> need a little help. nobody talking xubuntu channel.
[15:31] <aet419> how can i change my sound device from Realtek ALC861 (OSS mixer) to [HDA ATI SB] alsa mixer
[15:31] <jim_p> aet419: chage it to what?
[15:31] <trilobiti> greencookie: what's a tiling wm ?
[15:31] <sunsetloungejc> get a ~/.session file error
[15:32] <greencookie> trilobiti: awesomeWM is pretty much all that it is :) and I love it :)
[15:33] <greencookie> trilobiti: you should try it :) much faster :)
[15:33] <jim_p> trilobiti: its a window manager type that leaves no spaces between windows in order to use every pixel of your desktopavailable
[15:33] <erUSUL> !sound | aet419
[15:33] <trilobiti> greencookie: no I meant, is there anything that has to deal with "tiling" windows or stuff around? lol
[15:33] <greencookie> trilobiti: :) i know wt u mean now :) sry. just had coffee. ;)
[15:33] <aet419> jim_p: my audio device is showing Realtek ALC861 (OSS mixer) i want to change it to Alsa mixer
[15:33] <mib_6v1oki3x> how does I boot ISO?
[15:34] <jim_p> aet419: is that in gnome-sound-properties or in gnome-mixer?
[15:34] <DasEi1> !iso|) mib_6v1oki3x
[15:35] <DasEi1>  mib_6v1oki3x: you can't boot an iso, got to burn it to cd
[15:37] <sunsetloungejc> can anybody help me fix a broken sytem? getting ~/.session file error.  I have the "Rescue Mode" menu up and running on the machine, and not sure how to proceed...don't want to lose my data
[15:37] <jim_p> anyone having a .wgetrc? its a settings file for wget
[15:37] <ikonia> sunsetloungejc remove ~/.session and resboot
[15:37] <ikonia> reboot
[15:38] <kyhros> Hi there
[15:38] <jim_p> sunsetloungejc: sudo rm /home/username/.session
[15:38] <sunsetloungejc> thnx Jim
[15:38] <sceo> since rebooting today the login is REALLLL slow and eventually tells me it couldn't start the gnome-settings-daemon.  I get a basic window with blues and not my normal theme... after I clear that I get the login sound and things get a little better looking, but not perfect.  other people having this issue (i noticed nautilus came with an update today)
[15:38] <ToJIuk1> Hey
[15:38] <kyhros> I want so set my wireless keyboard media keys (Play/Pause, Volume mail www etc) is there any way?
[15:39] <jim_p> kyhros: can you please tell me the model of the keyboard??
[15:39] <trilobiti> sceo: did you try to login as a different user?
[15:40] <sceo> trilobiti - good call, no I have not
[15:40] <aet419> jim_p : i used gnome-sound properties command b4 but there is only Realtek ALC861 OSS mixer as defult mixer device
[15:40] <trilobiti> sceo: it might be a trouble user related and not system related, you never know.
[15:40] <jim_p> aet419: change it then! on all dropdown menus
[15:40] <Voltaplein> Hi -- is the right channel for 8.10 beta questions?
[15:40] <ancientadm> kyhros: did your keyboard come with any software?
[15:40] <jim_p> Voltaplein: ubuntu+1
[15:41] <jim_p> Voltaplein: #ubuntu+1
[15:41] <naughtykid001> hi, anyone can help me to mount my partition during startup?
[15:41] <naughtykid001> I modified the fstab, but in vain :'(
[15:41] <kyhros> nope Logitech Cordless Internet PRo
[15:41] <sceo> trilobiti - ok I just tried switching over to my girlfriend's account and it is equally awful
[15:41] <aet419> jim_p: there is only Realtek ALC861 OSS mixer as defult mixer device dropdown list
[15:41] <JunHowl> is there a way to list files greater than a specified size with ls command?
[15:41] <kyhros> oh and i use openbox
[15:41] <maledikt> hi
[15:42] <JunHowl> --size X doesn't seem to work
[15:42] <fiXXXerMet> Hi everyone.  I just installed a new Nvidia GeForce 9400 GT.  lspci shows "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0641 (rev a1)"   How can I have it detect the correct card?
[15:42] <aet419> jim_p: i'm tirng to fix it from last two or three days
[15:42] <Voltaplein> jim_p: thx
[15:42] <maledikt> how do i put the user-list to the right of the window? like it is in mIRC?
[15:43] <kyhros> Ancientadm: I use openbox an the keyboard Logitech Cordless internet Pro
[15:43] <sceo> incidentally, I'm on Hardy
[15:43] <trilobiti> sceo: I wouldn't know. I haven't updated my box since last week.
[15:43] <jim_p> fiXXXerMet: a newer kernel will detect it properly. wait for 8.10
[15:43] <JunHowl> is there a way to list files greater than a specified size with ls command?
[15:43] <JunHowl> --size X doesn't seem to work
[15:43] <ikonia> JunHowl need to pipe to sort or use find
[15:43] <fiXXXerMet> jim_p: So the card isn't supported (even with nvidia-glx-new?)?  What can I do in the mean time, as I can't get X to start.
[15:43] <Gnea> fiXXXerMet: sudo update-pciids
[15:44] <parfu> 8.10 xubuntu question : anyone can tell me what is the right input to xorg.conf for 1024x768 Resolution ?
[15:44] <JunHowl> ikonia: aw ty
[15:44] <ikonia> parfu 8.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[15:44] <Gnea> jim_p: incorrect.
[15:44] <jim_p> aet419: can you see alsa in the options of any program? and what sound card do you have?
[15:44] <jim_p> Gnea: ???
[15:44] <lucax1> anyone know howto accelerate usb pendrives?
[15:44] <Gnea> jim_p: the kernel doesn't determine what shows up in lspci, the pci ID database does.
[15:44] <jim_p> fiXXXerMet: you said how to identify if lspci detects it. the answer is kernel
[15:45] <fiXXXerMet> Gnea: Need I reboot after using that command?
[15:45] <Gnea> fiXXXerMet: nope, just run lspci again
[15:45] <fiXXXerMet> jim_p: Any way to use the newer kernel?
[15:45] <jim_p> Gnea: newer kernel , newer database
[15:45] <Gnea> jim_p: wrong.
[15:45] <fiXXXerMet> Says same thing after using that command
[15:45] <aet419> jim_p:  am using intel motherboard which has on board sound card
[15:45] <Gnea> jim_p: the pci id database is independent of the kernel.
[15:45] <jim_p> fiXXXerMet: Note the word "identify" that you asked
[15:46] <kyhros> ikonia: Hi , is there a way to set some media keyboard features in openbox (Logitech Cordless Internet Pro)? Ty.
[15:46] <jim_p> aet419: so an "lspci | grep Audio" and tell me the exact thing
[15:46] <trilobiti> I get it that Gnea is saying the pci recognition database and the kernel are not related. Don't know that, Gnea seems to know about it.
[15:46] <jim_p> Gnea: ok i quit
[15:46] <erUSUL> Gnea: trilobiti jim_p indeed "sudo update-pciids"
[15:47] <xfader> hi all, how can i assign a jpg or png to a user so it appears on the login window?. In login window preferences i can see the default face and the global face directory settings but nowhere to map a face to a user
[15:48] <JuJuBee> I stopped a process yesterday and when I came in this morning, it was started again.  My crontab does not start it.  Where can I look to see what started it?
[15:48] <xfader> how can i assign a jpg or png to a user so it appears on the login window?. In login window preferences i can see the default face and the global face directory settings but nowhere to map a face to a user
[15:48] <Ryuho> what do you guys think about the atom processors? thinking about buying a <10 inch eeepc like laptop
[15:48] <erUSUL> JuJuBee: what process ?
[15:48] <ikonia> Ryuho thats offtopic in here
[15:48] <trilobiti> JuJuBee: process ?
[15:48] <JuJuBee> dansguardian
[15:48] <Ryuho> ikonia: i'm asking for xubuntu
[15:48] <Ryuho> does it run well
[15:48] <jim_p> xfader: you want it to appear like a users "avatar" or like the logins window background?
[15:48] <Gnea> jim_p: no big deal, just wanted to make sure that you were aware of the correct process. :)
[15:48] <ikonia> Ryuho: read if the hardware is supported
[15:48] <trilobiti> JuJuBee: is there a starter script in the init.d for it ?
[15:48] <naughtykid001> http://pastebin.com/m7eda993d
[15:48] <ikonia> !hcl | Ryuho
[15:48] <erUSUL> xfader: System>Preferences>About Me
[15:49] <xfader> jim_p: as the avatar
[15:49] <naughtykid001> anyone please help?
[15:49] <naughtykid001> currently I able to mount it using nautilus but mounted as root which put me into terminal to copy file. I wish to mount the partition at bootup but in vain so far
[15:49] <FFForever> can someone help me get my wireless working, i have a Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[15:49] <JuJuBee> trilobiti: yes there is.
[15:49] <ikonia> naughtykid001 use the /etc/fstab file to mount something statically at boot time
[15:50] <trilobiti> JuJuBee: have you rebooted the machine after you killed that process ?
[15:50] <JuJuBee> trilobiti : nope.
[15:50] <xfader> i have changed the my gdm theme which now shows a generic nobody.png next to all users
[15:50] <aet419> jim_p: i get this info --  00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[15:50] <fiXXXerMet> jim_p: I guess that I am assuming that I am having X troubles because my card is not being identified correctly...?  X doesn't start when I use the nvidia driver, and my system locks up when I use the nv driver.  What do you think I should try?
[15:50] <JuJuBee> I am thinking a cron somewhere?
[15:50] <naughtykid001> ikonia:  http://pastebin.com/m7eda993d
[15:50] <FFForever> please someone anyone i really need wifi working....
[15:50] <greencookie> how do I find out which terminal I'm using?
[15:50] <trilobiti> JuJuBee: and you used a repository .deb for installing ?
[15:50] <naughtykid001> ikonia: I'm doing with fstab, but in vain
[15:50] <ikonia> greencookie you opened it, probably gnome-terminal
[15:50] <mtcage> Hi there, this may sound stupid, but is there a way to install IE 8 on ubuntu hardy? i need it for CSS testing
[15:50] <JuJuBee> IIRC
[15:51] <JuJuBee> installed over 2 years ago.
[15:51] <albuntu> FFForever : have you tried enabling restricted drivers ?
[15:51] <greencookie> ikonia: I'm using awesome
[15:51] <mookid> greencookie: you're probably using MSDOS
[15:51] <ikonia> naughtykid001 is it media storage your trying to mount ?
[15:51] <Gnea> naughtykid001: what's the problem?
[15:51] <greencookie> ok mookid I get the hint.. thanks.
[15:51] <ikonia> mookid pelase don't mess around
[15:51] <albuntu> FFForever : system - administration - hardware drivers
[15:51] <overrider> hello, what would i format my external usb drive as, ext2 or ext3 ? thanks.
[15:51] <mookid> that would be far too human.
[15:51] <trilobiti> JuJuBee: I'd think a "cron" or "at" to check for it at certain times of the day.
[15:51] <naughtykid001> ikonia: Gnea: it's a partition created from my harddisk
[15:51] <jim_p> xfader: go to System > Preferences >personal
[15:51] <FFForever> albuntu, i know about that.... its not working.............
[15:51] <ikonia> mookid: you've just made the guy leave
[15:52] <mookid> dead wood.
[15:52] <tux> need help with a scsi hard drive
[15:52] <Gnea> mookid: that was totally uncalled for.
[15:52] <ikonia> mookid: thats not the correct attitude
[15:52] <mookid> ok sorry
[15:52] <ikonia> !coc | mookid
[15:52] <mookid> did you just call me a cock?
[15:52] <mookid> that's a bit out of order
[15:52] <JuJuBee> trilobiti : is there a way to find out when it restarted? and how it restarted?
[15:52] <trilobiti> FFForever: show here what does " lspci | grep wifi"  show
[15:52] <Gnea> naughtykid001: okay, but I don't understand what the problem is and what you're trying to do
[15:52] <ikonia> mookid: please read that doc to undersand how to behave
[15:52] <ikonia> mookid: no, I didn't
[15:52] <mtcage> is it possible to run IE 8 via Wine on ubuntu hardy?
[15:52] <jim_p> fiXXXerMet: there is a small difference between being identified and working. do toy have nvidia-glx-new installed AND set nvidia as the driver in xorg.conf?
[15:52] <bazhang> mookid, please stop.
[15:52] <tux> does ubuntu support scsi hdd
[15:52] <sunsetloungejc> Jim....so I do the "sudo rm /home/myusername/.session", but it says no such file or dir exists. ????
[15:52] <tux> ?!?
[15:52] <FFForever> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[15:53] <Klangdah> I'm looking for an app to set up a wifi hotspot, with authentification and logging, anything exists already ?
[15:53] <ikonia> tux sure
[15:53] <erUSUL> tux: yes
[15:53] <xfader> Thanks jim_p
[15:53] <Gnea> naughtykid001: I see that you want to mount something automatically at boottime, but which one?
[15:53] <trilobiti> FFForever: you're in 32bit or 64bit ?
[15:53] <jim_p> aet419: let me look it up in alsa's database
[15:53] <albuntu> FFForever : look this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=902860
[15:53] <tux> it wont detect it
[15:53] <datacrusher> does anyone knows a good quiosque feature to apply on ubuntu?
[15:53] <IcyPolecat> tux: yup provided you're not using a very obscure disk controller
[15:53] <naughtykid001> Gnea: /dev/sda5
[15:53] <kyhros> okes most mar csak olyan application kell ami figyeli a bejovo bill. kodokat :)
[15:54] <lucax1> datacrusher: quiosque?
[15:54] <tux> IcyPolecat it wont pick it up
[15:54] <tobias_> Hello
[15:54] <mookid> ok I'll stop - I think you need to be more human with your administration.. it's not very 'ubuntu' to boss people around. I appreciate you're trying to keep the 'noise' down but cmon.. don't be fascist - it's not nice
[15:54] <tobias_> I have got a problem
[15:54] <Gnea> naughtykid001: looks like you have a typo - should be 'realtime', not 'relatime'
[15:55] <albuntu> !ask | tobias_
[15:55] <naughtykid001> Gnea: I able to mount the partition using nautilus, but in root mode which need sudo to copy files. So I want to boot it during startup
[15:55] <erUSUL> Gnea: relatime is a correct option that can speed up the filesystem... stands for "relative atime" the other related option is "noatime" (atime is access time)
[15:55] <datacrusher> [lucax1]: a lock down station, only with especifi features. in this case, i need a web browser only (the pages ill put a favorites link, its 2, max 3), and run a screensaver
[15:55] <tobias_> I installed the new Ubuntu 8.10 but I accidently stopped upgrading, i dont wanted that, but now, I dont get 8.04 or 8.10 working, update-manager is broken
[15:55] <greencookie> bye bye moo kid!
[15:55] <trilobiti> naughtykid001: can you mound it in command line via "mount" ?
[15:55] <tobias_> what shalli do?
[15:55] <ikonia> greencookie don't feed an issue
[15:55] <MrNaz> how stable is 8.10a6 ? am i safe using it yet or is it horribly broken ?
[15:56] <greencookie> erm sorry.
[15:56] <tux> would oanybody mind helping me with a scsi hdd
[15:56] <ikonia> MrNaz not stable, it's beta
[15:56] <naughtykid001> Gnea: it's relatime, it come by default and I check also it state it is relatime
[15:56] <tobias_> anyone know what i shall do now?
[15:56] <tobias_> graphics dont work so good
[15:56] <trilobiti> s/mound/mount
[15:56] <tobias_> 800x600
[15:56] <erUSUL> tux: you will have to give in one line more details... the controller you are using for a start etc
[15:56] <bazhang> tobias_, you installed 8.10?
[15:56] <Gnea> naughtykid001: oh ok, i see what you mean.
[15:56] <albuntu> tobias_ : try dpkg-reconfigure
[15:57] <tobias_> tried upgrading
[15:57] <tobias_> ok
[15:57] <naughtykid001> trilobiti: wait, I try
[15:57] <tux> erusul i dont know what that is
[15:57] <tux> lol
[15:57] <jim_p> aet419: are you still there? your card is supported by alsa. try    sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[15:57] <bazhang> tobias_, either try to fix in #ubuntu+1 or reinstall
[15:57] <erUSUL> tux: what scasi controller you are suing
[15:57] <lucax1> datacrusher: i would try maybe gentoo minimal or linux from scratch scripts or maybe puppy linux? those are really really small
[15:57] <erUSUL> tux: what scsi controller you are suing
[15:57] <tobias_> #ubuntu+1? another chan?
[15:57] <bazhang> tobias_, yes
[15:57] <albuntu> tobias_ : yes
[15:57] <tobias_> with lesser people or what
[15:57] <aet419> jim_p: yes i'm here
[15:57] <tux> erusul where do i find that ?!?
[15:58] <tobias_> ok thanks
[15:58] <erUSUL> tux: "lspci" for example or "lshw" or in "dmesg" maybe preparing pastebins with the output of those commands
[15:58] <erUSUL> !pastebin | tux
[15:59] <naughtykid001> trilobiti: yes, I able to mount through terminal
[15:59] <jim_p> aet419: any luck?
[15:59] <jjohnson> ubuntu gods, i have a question. I use a proxim orinoco card that uses the wlags49 driver but i could never get it to compile in 2.6, i found a modified version on your forum that compiles but according to lspcmcia i have no drivers detected for that card, even when doing a modprobe or insmod its not associating with the card, Any ideas?
[15:59] <Vincent_> hi everyone
[15:59] <Vincent_> i have another question to you.
[15:59] <ChrizC> Hi, I just got the CD from Ubuntu, and when I try and install, it'll give me a SQUASH_FS error. How can I make it install?
[16:00] <trilobiti> naughtykid001: so you have 3 partitions and one of them doesn't mount properly ?
[16:00] <erUSUL> ChrizC: have you checked the cd? sound like a bad burning/download
[16:00] <Vincent_> in ubuntu network manager, I can set the essid and the password. but is there an installed prgram, where i can see reachable hot spots?
[16:00] <erUSUL> !md5 | ChrizC
[16:00] <tux> erusul http://paste.ubuntu.com/55021/
[16:00] <ChrizC> erUSUL; I got it from ubuntu's "Request a Free CD" link, and I havn't heard of them making a bad burn.
[16:00] <aet419> jim_p i run the command but nothing changed
[16:00] <ChrizC> erUSUL; already tried
[16:01] <erUSUL> tux: SCSI storage controller: Adaptec ASC-39320D (rev 03)
[16:01] <naughtykid001> trilobiti: 2 actually, another one is external
[16:01] <jim_p> aet419: still the same options in gnome-sound-properties?
[16:01] <greencookie> I need a break, is there an offtopic room somewhere nearby?
[16:01] <trilobiti> naughtykid001: and what's the trouble you're facing ?
[16:01] <ikonia> greencookie #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:01] <erUSUL> tux: dmesg > dmesg.txt && gedit dmesg.txt (paste that file too)
[16:02] <greencookie> thanks ikonia  :)
[16:02] <ChrizC> Hi, I just got the CD from Ubuntu, and when I try and install, it'll give me a SQUASH_FS error. How can I make it install?
[16:02] <tux> erusul wow
[16:02] <aet419> jim_p yes
[16:02] <tux> erusul how do i do that
[16:02] <tux> erusul sorry
[16:02] <erUSUL> tux: « dmesg > dmesg.txt && gedit dmesg.txt » run that command line
[16:03] <aet419> jim_p same option in gnome-sound -properties
[16:03] <naughtykid001> trilobiti: trying to mount during startup and able to write into it. Currently cannot write
[16:03] <Gnea> erUSUL: thanks, missed that
[16:03] <susscorf1> where to report a wrong link to a home page in aplication description with add remove application ?
[16:03] <trilobiti> naughtykid001: yes  got that. But is it one of the partitions listed in your pasted fstab or another one not listed there?
[16:03] <jim_p> aet419: i will pm you the lines you need to add in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[16:03] <erUSUL> Gnea: no problem
[16:04] <tux> erusul ok got it
[16:05] <Neozed> hey folks, I just did an update (sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade), and now I can't login anymore
[16:05] <erUSUL> Neozed: what's the error?
[16:05] <naughtykid001> trilobiti: it's the /dev/sda5 which I try to mount during startup
[16:05] <tux> erusul what do i do here ?!?
[16:05] <Neozed> that is, I am using ubuntu and gnome, but I have tried KDE, so I always get the KDE login screen
[16:05] <jim_p> Neozed: did you run them like yoy describe?
[16:06] <erUSUL> tux: paste the file in pastebin so i can look into it
[16:06] <Neozed> no, acutally I first ran update, then upgrade
[16:06] <aet419> jim_p i run alsamixer command on terminal but it says alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: No such file or directory
[16:06] <anirudh0> hi...apt is trying to fetch amd64 versions of packages from a repo I added..uname shows that the system architecture is x86_64...any ideas?
[16:06] <Azlx> ok, im new to ubuntu, need help!
[16:06] <trilobiti> trilobiti: does the uuid of the disk match the uuid refference in /etc/fstab ?
[16:06] <jim_p> aet419: did you do what i send you in pm?
[16:06] <Neozed> I can login to the terminal (Ctrl + Shift + F1), and I was able to locate a file called .session-errors
[16:06] <Gnea> anirudh0: you're doing it correctly
[16:06] <IcyPolecat> anirudh0: that's correct
[16:06] <erUSUL> tux: dmesg output is too long so  is easier to save it to a file and paste it that way
[16:06] <tux> erusul here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/55028/
[16:06] <Tanalark> good morning, all.
[16:06] <loevborg> What's this! Running ./configure gets into an infinite loop... Anyone know this?
[16:06] <sudoconfused> what's good about it?
[16:07] <Tanalark> heh.. you're not dead. :)
[16:07] <jim_p> loevborg: what app?
[16:07] <anirudh0> Gnea, I created a repo with x86_64 versions of packages (since thats what I would need)...since apt tries to get amd64, I get a packages not found error
[16:07] <trilobiti> naughtykid001:  does the uuid of the disk match the uuid refference in /etc/fstab ?
[16:07] <Gnea> anirudh0: can you pastebin the error please?
[16:08] <Neozed> it says: Xsession: X session started for <user> at <the exact time and date I tried to login> \n gnome-terminal: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0; undefined symbol: g_signal_accumulator_true_handled
[16:08] <Gnea> naughtykid001: < trilobiti> trilobiti: does the uuid of the disk match the uuid refference in /etc/fstab ?
[16:08] <loevborg> jim_p, XBMC, the media player
[16:08] <naughtykid001> trilobiti: yes
[16:08] <susscorf1> where to report a wrong link to a home page in aplication description with add remove application ? report it as a bug?
[16:08] <loevborg> jim_p, but I've seen it with other apps, don't remember which
[16:08] <naughtykid001> Gnea: thanks
[16:08] <Gnea> naughtykid001: :)
[16:08] <tux> erusul  would this be what u are looking for [   83.063092] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[16:08] <tux> [   83.063128] scsi 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 5
[16:08] <tux> [   83.092781] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[16:08] <tux> [   83.092789] ?!?
[16:08] <FloodBot3> tux: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:08] <pronoy_> ok this might sound really stupid but to delete files in terminal..what command do we issue ?
[16:09] <jim_p> loevborg: do you have all the dependencies for it to compile?
[16:09] <Neozed> The login screen behaves correctly if I try to enter an invalid password - it gives me the "login failed" error. But when I enter the correct one, the screen goes blank, and straight into the login screen again
[16:09] <Tanalark> so at any rate, I am a semi-newbie with Linux and have never worked with ubuntu before.  I installed it as a dual-boot with XP last night, and everything seems to work except for the internet.  I can connect to the wireless router with no problems, but it won't connect to the repos or resolve domain names.  I can do these things with XP, and before I installed the program, the LiveCD would...
[16:09] <Gnea> pronoy_: rm file
[16:09] <Tanalark> ...connect to the 'net with no problems.  Any suggestions?
[16:09] <erUSUL> tux: no that's your optical drive... look this http://paste.ubuntu.com/55030/
[16:09] <pronoy_> Gnea: thx
[16:09] <loevborg> jim_p: I did apt-get build-dep
[16:09] <naughtykid001> trilobiti: this is what I had everytime dragging a file to the directory "Error opening file '/media/Storage/camera_icon.xcf': Permission denied"
[16:09] <Neozed> I do not know if it has anything to do with me just doing a routine update of the system, but I can't think of anything else..
[16:09] <erUSUL> tux: something is wrong with the scasi disk (or at least linux thinks so)
[16:09] <loevborg> jim_p: anyway it shouldn't just start over after finishing ./configure, over and over
[16:10] <erUSUL> tux: medium error is not very encouraging ...
[16:10] <jim_p> loevborg: i will pm you all the dependencies, are you sure you have them all?
[16:10] <tux> erusul oo no is there a way to recover my files ?!?
[16:10] <Gnea> naughtykid001: could you please pastebin the output from the following commands?  mount  and  ls -ld /media/Storage
[16:10] <jim_p> loevborg: these are for the svn version though
[16:10] <Neozed> am I the only one getting this error? I read something about transparent gnome panels crashing back to login, but the forum-posts were dated back to 2007 some time
[16:11] <loevborg> jim_p: yes I'm compiling the svn version
[16:11] <Azlx> im trying to create an ubuntu boot disc so i can remove windows from my pc, will someone help me with it?
[16:11] <trilobiti> naughtykid001: What happens if you replace  "user,auto,exec,relatime" with "defaults" in the /dev/sda5 line ?
[16:11] <erUSUL> tux: dunno what is exactly wrong... coulb be a kernel bug too. you can try with a livecd of another dsitribution or another ubuntu version ....
[16:11] <Neozed> Azlx: download the ubuntu disk from the web..
[16:11] <DasEi1>  Azlxgo ahead..
[16:12] <Vincent_> knows someone a program for ubuntu, where i can see all access points reachable like netstumbler?
[16:12] <naughtykid001> Gnea: it's pretty short, so please allow me to put it here "drwxrwxr-x 5 root root 4096 2008-10-07 20:23 /media/Storage/"
[16:12] <Azlx> ive tried looking for it, it gives me some commands that either a. are not working for me, or b. are not giving the right directions.
[16:12] <tux> erusul but does linux have a files recover ? and what other distro would you recommend
[16:12] <trilobiti> Vincent_: you mean wifi aps ?
[16:12] <erUSUL> tux: you know now what to look for... if the error is reproducible across different kernels ... then dunno what the next sted could be...
[16:12] <pronoy_> Gnea: how do we delete directories ??
[16:12] <Gnea> naughtykid001: ah, okay
[16:12] <sunsetloungejc> Help, Jim_P.....i removed /.xsession*, but that did not fix the problem.  I still get same message:  /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_US.  Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default.  mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission Denied.
[16:12] <naughtykid001> trilobiti: nothing happens, tested with it
[16:12] <erUSUL> !info testdisk | tux
[16:12] <Tanalark> I'm gonna repost my question, and i hope I don't annoy anyone.
[16:12] <Gnea> pronoy_: man rm  will tell you all about it
[16:12] <erUSUL> !info gpart | tux
[16:13] <Tanalark> I am a semi-newbie with Linux and have never worked with ubuntu before.  I installed it as a dual-boot with XP last night, and everything seems to work except for the internet.  I can connect to the wireless router with no problems, but it won't connect to the repos or resolve domain names.  I can do these things with XP, and before I installed the program, the LiveCD would connect to the...
[16:13] <trilobiti> Vincent_: the access points is as in wireless access points ?
[16:13] <Tanalark> ...'net with no problems.  Any suggestions?
[16:13] <Vaux> NAIS
[16:13] <Vaux> SERVER
[16:13] <draven1005> Tanalark: are you able to ping your default gateway
[16:13] <Vaux> LMAO
[16:13] <Vaux> Funny To C This
[16:13] <Vaux> [ means?
[16:13] <Tanalark> I'm not sure how to do those commands in Ubuntu.
[16:13] <Gnea> !enter | Vaux
[16:14] <Vaux> !enter
[16:14] <draven1005> Tanalark: first do a:  route -n     then try to ping your default gateway
[16:14] <erUSUL> Tanalark: check the dns settings system>Admin>Net (dns tab)
[16:14] <Vaux> Whatever Ok
[16:14] <tux> erusul thanks let me try that
[16:14] <flea_> hello
[16:14] <Vaux> [ Is a rank?
[16:14] <Tanalark> ok... sounds good.
[16:14] <Gnea> Vaux: what are you talking about?
[16:14] <SillyZ> heres a quick q: whom or who does one talk to about getting a fix into the linux kernel??
[16:14] <voltage__> azlx: Have you burned the iso yet?
[16:14] <Vaux> well all those peeps up there are starting with a [
[16:14] <Tanalark> so what's the next step if I can or can't?
[16:14] <flea_> only in ubuntu can i NOT dd a dvd/cdrom to an iso (input/output errors) -- is this a known issue, what blocks?
[16:14] <trilobiti> Vincent_: you wanted to have a means to see all wireless accesspoints available ?
[16:15] <flea_> i do not have the volume mounted
[16:15] <Vincent_> knows someone a program where you can see all reachable access points like in windows?
[16:15] <draven1005> Tanalark: if you can't, then you dont have your network settings configured correctly.  If you can, then check your DNS settings as suggested above.
[16:15] <Gnea> SillyZ: by conversing with the linux kernel maintainers on LMKL
[16:15] <RawkFish> What is the Sudo command to install Flash?
[16:15] <Tanalark> K... thanks.  I'll check that and hopefully see you in a few minutes from Ubuntu's side.
[16:15] <erUSUL> SillyZ: the linux kernel mailing list<EMAIL_ADDRESS>where the almighty gods (Linus Torvalds et al) spen the day...
[16:15] <DasEi1> !flash
[16:16] <erUSUL> SillyZ: see the SubmitingPatches document
[16:16] <trilobiti> Vincent_: search for a program called "wifi-radar". It works quite nicely for me.
[16:16] <SillyZ> Gnea erUSUL , thank you
[16:16] <draven1005> RawkFish: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[16:16] <sunsetloungejc> can anyone tell me how to fix this: .i removed /.xsession*, but that did not fix the problem.  I still get same message:  /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup... Setting IM through im-switch for locale=en_US.  Start IM through /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/all_ALL linked to /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default.  mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission Denied.
[16:16] <helpy> why is openoffice beta 3 not in synaptic ?
[16:16] <Gnea> helpy: it's beta
[16:16] <helpy> so ?
[16:16] <RawkFish> Dravin thanks
[16:16] <bofh80> please note that FLASH PACKAGES DON'T WORK. you MUST install flash from adobe site if you want it to work CORRECTLY
[16:16] <Pici> helpy: Ubuntu is not a rolling release like Debian is.
[16:17] <Pici> bofh80: Incorrect.
[16:17] <Gnea> please ignore bofh80
[16:17] <erUSUL> SillyZ: http://lxr.linux.no/linux/Documentation/SubmittingPatches
[16:17] <helpy> how do i install it ? i have downloaded it
[16:17] <bazhang> bofh80, no
[16:17] <Pici> !latest | helpy
[16:17] <draven1005> thats not try bofh80
[16:17] <draven1005> true*
[16:17] <IcyPolecat> bofh80: wrong
[16:17] <helpy> thx pici
[16:17] <bofh80> Pici, after over 50+ ubuntu installs i believe i can say i'm correct
[16:17]  * erUSUL has a patch in the kernel with his name ;P
[16:17] <komputes> how can I tell what filesystem typwe a CDROM is using?
[16:18] <LeventersoY> how can i know a my wireless anttena dbi on ubuntu?
[16:18] <bofh80> if you like your flash as slow and buggy as possible use the packages.
[16:18]  * Gnea met Linus Torvolds and Alan Cox in person ;P
[16:18] <helpy> is there ANY way i can install ooo beta 3 ?
[16:18] <draven1005> download and install it manually helpy
[16:18] <soneil> komputes: file -s /the/device is usually pretty conclusive  if it's mounted, "mount" alone well tell you what it's been mounted/detected as
[16:18] <LeventersoY> can i help me anyone?
[16:18] <LeventersoY> how can i know a my wireless anttena dbi on ubuntu?
[16:18] <bustaplz2> If I run sudo apt-get upgrade via ssh and disconnect before the operation finishes, will this stop the operation?
[16:18] <trilobiti> bofh80: someone here had a weird solution the other day. Install wine. Install firefox for windows. Install flash for that. He said it works 10x faster and better.
[16:18] <helpy> how do i install manually ?
[16:19] <flea_> helpy: i agree with draven1005
[16:19] <helpy> i have already downloaded it
[16:19] <Gnea> LeventersoY: iwconfig
[16:19] <DasEi1> helpy:if you absolutely have to, check out their HP
[16:19] <helpy> HP ?
[16:19] <Dan__> homepage
[16:19] <Dan__> maybe
[16:19] <draven1005> bustaplz2: yes.   start it with screen, then detach the screen and exit
[16:19] <helpy> i have ?
[16:19] <bofh80> trilobiti, correct because firefox for windows fetches it from adobe directly strangley enough
[16:19] <voltage__> komputes: cdfs is a standard for all cds
[16:19] <tylrd> LeventersoY--> i dont think there are tools to truely measure dbi of an antennae within ubuntu
[16:19] <DasEi1> helpy:homepage, yes
[16:19] <flea_> google knows things
[16:19] <Gnea> bofh80: if the package is broken, then fix it
[16:19] <bustaplz2> you mean start it ON the machine rather than remotely?
[16:19] <fiXXXerMet> How can I add the 8.10 packages to my 8.04 install so that I can use the newer kernel / nvidia drivers?
[16:20] <IcyPolecat> LeventersoY: iwconfig will give you the TX power, the only way to get the gain on the antenna is to read your card's spec
[16:20] <bofh80> Gnea, if a package is broken don't purport that it works
[16:20] <^Cheeky> ikonia, hey you have a min ?
[16:20] <draven1005> bustaplz2: thats a better solution, but with screen you can do it remote.
[16:20] <trilobiti> Gnea: easier said than done that. :p
[16:20] <DasEi1> helpy:why do you need the beta ?
[16:20] <ikonia> ^Cheeky what's up ?
[16:20] <terrestre> hi all, in a LAN is possible to ubuntu to use a printer connected to a windows machine if theres no drivers for that printer in linux?
[16:20] <SillyZ> second question : how does one go about recompiling the linux kernel to be an exact duplicate of the 'out of the box' generic kernel, with just a few small fixes?
[16:20] <bofh80> just because people think it's easier to sudo-apt get, rather than downloading a 2k file from adobe and unzipping it
[16:20] <bustaplz2> what do you mean?
[16:20] <helpy> because oo2 sucks ?
[16:20] <DasEi1>  terrestre: yes it is
[16:20] <Gnea> bofh80: works fine here, you must've done something wrong.
[16:20] <Pici> bofh80: Log a bug if you think there is something wrong with the package.  #ubuntu is not the place to complaing about it.
[16:20] <Pici> !bugs > bofh80
[16:20] <flea_> terrestre: copy the .config
[16:21] <bofh80> i would like to state here, that flash has not worked since 7.10 frmo the packages
[16:21] <Gnea> trilobiti: doesn't mean it's not imposssible ;)
[16:21] <IcyPolecat> terrestre: it's really unlikely there will be no drivers... there's normally something workable
[16:21] <draven1005> bustaplz2: sudo apt-get install screen    Then, man screen
[16:21] <Gnea> bofh80: and I am going to state here, that you're doing it wrong.
[16:21] <trilobiti> Gnea: hehe indeed. I wish I knew enough to do that though. :|
[16:21] <bustaplz2> oh i thought you were talking about screen as in monitor
[16:21] <bofh80> Gnea, and if you install flash from the adobe site you might find yours starts to work proerplyu
[16:21] <Pici> Gnea: Just drop it, he should log a bug if there is an issue.
[16:21] <LeventersoY> IcyPolecat : i buyed a external antenna , how can i seen this externel antenna status
[16:22] <^Cheeky> ikonia, man iam learning java wat you told me about my system isnot giving me a piece of mind @ all
[16:22] <IcyPolecat> LeventersoY: an antenna is just a dumb bit of metal - if you need to know the gain then it should be listed in the antenna's manual
[16:22] <Gnea> bofh80: but I don't have to. mine works just fine. perhaps you've got a buggy video driver. you should really file a bug report and get as much detail crammed into it that you can.
[16:22] <Azlx> my problem, not enough space for ubuntu, ive tried making another partition, but it wont let me unmount the drive.
[16:22] <bustaplz2> to be clear, I'm connected via ssh on Putty
[16:22] <Pici> LeventersoY: iwconfig will tell you the statistics of your wifi connection.
[16:23] <dtcrshr> lucax1: this linux from scratch seens interesting
[16:23] <dtcrshr> thanks
[16:23] <tylrd> LeventersoY--> you can not, i told you there are no tools within ubuntu to give you that info
[16:23] <ikonia> ^Cheeky: ok, I could well be wrong, I can only make comments no the information you give me
[16:23] <bustaplz2> would screen be installed on the ssh host machine or on the remote machine?
[16:23] <bofh80> Gnea, i have no need to, as i've said i've installed ubuntu on over 50 different machines for home use, can you claim the same? i've TESTED have you?
[16:23] <maniheer> Azlx, u can use the gparted livecd
[16:23] <bazhang> !ot > bofh80
[16:23] <trukosh> Hi, can fetchmail forward to more than one user or do i have to use an alias database? ("user bla is bla1, bla2" - anything like that)
[16:23] <trilobiti> LeventersoY: and if you type "iw(TAB)" it will show some other wireless utilities you can use and that can come handy.
[16:23] <Gnea> bofh80: yes, I have.
[16:23] <bazhang> please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:23] <Azlx> is that something i can dl, or do i actually have to buy it, i got ubuntu from the net, so i dont have any actual cd or anything.
[16:23] <draven1005> bustaplz2: you install screen on the machine you want to upgrade.   sudo apt-get install screen       Then, man screen
[16:24] <DasEi1> Azxl: free download
[16:24] <trilobiti> bofh80: matter of factly, flash works quite ok for me too.
[16:24] <bustaplz2> okay
[16:24] <Azlx> got the website, or is it an easy find?
[16:24] <kushalsejwal> Greeting everybody, Whenever I create any file in GEdit, like for e.g Hello.c then another hidden file named hello.c~ is created automatically in the same folder. what is it and what happens if I delete it.
[16:24] <bustaplz2> i probably should have done that before i did sudo apt-get upgrade huh?
[16:25] <maniheer> Azlx: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[16:25] <draven1005> bustaplz2: yes....
[16:25] <erUSUL> kushalsejwal: that's a backup file many text editors create them
[16:25] <trilobiti> kushalsejwal: it's used for backup purpses from gedit. You leave it alone.
[16:25] <DasEi1> Azxl: google gparted-live cd
[16:25] <bustaplz2> =D live and learn!
[16:25] <ikonia> kushalsejwal: it's normally an "edit" file thats held on disk until you exit the editor committing it to the real file
[16:25] <draven1005> bustaplz2: also, please prefix replies with the name of the person you are replying to.
[16:25] <tylrd> kushalsejwal--> may i suggest deleting it to give you a warm feeling of what happens? its not bad to erase a sample test code
[16:25] <battousaix> Hey everyone.
[16:25] <DasEi1> !hi
[16:25] <bustaplz2> draven1005: okay, sorry
[16:26] <battousaix> Quick question, anyone know of a utility that will view .pub files from Microsoft Publisher via Linux?
[16:26] <draven1005> bustaplz2: aww, now i can see your replies much easier.  thanks
[16:26] <^Cheeky> ikonia, true i still havent rund the hardware diagnostics as of yet haveing my first cup of java as of now
[16:26] <kushalsejwal> ikonia : So I should leave it as it is? Its sometimes irritates when my folder is full of such hidden files :(
[16:26] <ikonia> kushalsejwal then should dissapear when you close the editor
[16:26] <Azhi_Dahaka> quick question: How can i configure some apps to open as soon as i start my session?
[16:26] <bustaplz2> draven1005: i'm in class so I don't know if the upgrade will finish before I have to shut down =P
[16:26] <maniheer> ikonia, no it doesn't
[16:26] <ikonia> ^Cheeky then why not run them before you start trying to learn java
[16:26] <bustaplz2> draven1005: How bad will that screw things up?
[16:26] <ikonia> maniheer: oh really ?
[16:27] <trilobiti> kushalsejwal: they disappear when you close the edit session. In case of crashes and your work is unsaved, those files save your efforts.
[16:27] <kushalsejwal> ikonia : No they do not get dissapear
[16:27] <ikonia> maniheer: I thought it was like the $file.swp for vi
[16:27] <DasEi1> Azhi_Dahaka:write them to /etc/rc.local
[16:27] <draven1005> bustaplz2: if you use screen, then detach the screen you can safely close your ssh connection.
[16:27] <ikonia> kushalsejwal in that case I can't comment on it
[16:27] <maniheer> ikonia, nope, it stays there
[16:27] <maniheer> its like a backup
[16:27] <Aethelred> Booted my Ubuntu 8.04 this morning. Update Manager sez I have updates. Five of them are "Important Security Updates". Out of curiosity, I select one (libvlc0) to get the description. The description is "The list of changes if not available yet. Please try again later". Does this seem odd?
[16:27] <maniheer> well
[16:27] <maniheer> it is a backup
[16:27] <kushalsejwal> trilobiti : they are there even I restart the pc
[16:28] <flea_> ubuntu seems to have copy-protection on dvd/cd media (trying to dd) any able to overcome this?
[16:28] <aet419> jim_p r u there?
[16:28] <Pici> Aethelred: No.  Changelogs are not updated at the time that the upload is done to the server.
[16:28] <maniheer> kushalsejwal, those ~ files are backups
[16:28] <maniheer> and it can be set in the gedit preferences not to have those files created
[16:28] <Azlx> is it going to be better to dl the iso, or the zip?
[16:28] <trilobiti> kushalsejwal: You might want to see for any option (if there's one) to place them elsewhere from gedit.
[16:28] <DasEi1> flea_: don't know any protection, maybe try k3b or nero ?
[16:29] <Pici> Aethelred: I use apt-listchanges in conjunction with apt-get upgrade to see changelogs myself, it always works.
[16:29] <kushalsejwal> maniheer: Okay then I think I should not bother about them
[16:29] <flea_> DasEi1: thanks but i am only interested in a non-gui solution
[16:29] <bustaplz2> draven1005: Looks like I'm in the clear, upgrade just finished. Going to install screen and play around with it a bit. Thanks for the advice!
[16:29] <tobias> how to install banshee-1?
[16:29] <Pici> Aethelred: although you need to download the packages before you can read the changelogs.
[16:29] <^Cheeky> ikonia, i should but i have been trying to troubleshoot my box and havent accomplished anything so before i close my eyes i wish to learn something
[16:29] <flea_> DasEi1: dd works on all my other distros
[16:29] <Aethelred> Pici: Four of the "Important Security Updates" are like that, but other ones are not and include at least brief notes. I'm willing to ascribe this to human laziness, or technical hurdles, but it raises warnings for me.
[16:29] <ikonia> ^Cheeky thats your decision
[16:29] <DasEi1> flea_: should work, too see : man dd
[16:29] <^Cheeky> ikonia, indeed m8
[16:30] <kushalsejwal> trilobiti: hey yest there is an option on the preference menu, should I uncheck it so that no temporary files are created ??
[16:30] <pbrunier> 3g gprs test
[16:30] <flea_> DasEi1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=744261  -- im all aware of dd
[16:30] <trilobiti> kushalsejwal: you do that and try it out. If it's not what you want you can always revert back.
[16:30] <Aethelred> Pici: Do you have a sense how long the window is for the changelogs to catch up?
[16:31] <pitoow> how I clean the cache memory in ubuntu?
[16:31] <bofh80> i come back when the bugs logged and confirmed then you can eat words. make me sick. people claiming they know what they are talkin about. lies will show through.
[16:31] <kushalsejwal> trilobiti : Thanks mate, I would try.
[16:31] <trilobiti> pitoow: what's cache memory?
[16:31] <Pici> Aethelred: I don't know.  I believe it grabs those from a different webserver than where the packages themselves come from.
[16:31] <trilobiti> kushalsejwal: no problem man
[16:31] <b1nt4n6> sorry for interupt... anyone from indonesia?
[16:31] <kushalsejwal> Ubuntu Rocks!!
[16:31] <pitoow> memory cache
[16:32] <Pici> !id | b1nt4n6
[16:32] <maniheer> kushalsejwal, :P
[16:32] <voltage__> Aethelred You got to think outside the box. A few years back there was no GUI tool for automatic updates. It's not like there are major security holes in your distro it's mostly stability fixes or compatability fixes. Don't think the M$ way where if you don't get updates your system will become infected for sure
[16:32] <kushalsejwal> maniheer : Seriosly man I am slowing getting addicted to Ubuntu, I just love it ;)
[16:32] <Aethelred> Pici: Thanks.  In general, do you recommend for users to trust the "Update Manager" process? As wonderful as apt is, many people won't want to see a command line.
[16:32]  * DekRNR what command to edit folder name in ubuntu textmode
[16:32] <trilobiti> kushalsejwal: and then what? jump to father Debian? :D
[16:32]  * DekRNR what command to edit folder name in ubuntu textmode
[16:32] <maniheer> !yay
[16:32] <voltage__> In order to learn/appreciate linux you got to unlearn windows
[16:33]  * DekRNR what command to edit folder name in ubuntu textmode
[16:33] <Pici> Aethelred: Yes. For the most part, desktop end-users should feel fine doing routine updates through the update manager.
[16:33] <draven1005> anyone here installed MySQL 64Bit with csv-storage-engine
[16:33] <b1nt4n6> thanks ubottu
[16:33] <kushalsejwal> trilobiti : Hey how is Debian? I was thinking of downloading its iso
[16:33] <Aethelred> voltage__: I'm already outside that box, but part of what I do involves thinking about what it looks like from the users' perspective.
[16:33] <DasEi1> flea_: no further ideas on that
[16:33]  * DekRNR what command to edit folder name in ubuntu textmode
[16:33] <FrankT-Qc> ***DekRNR : mv OldName NewName
[16:33] <Pici> DasEi1: mv
[16:33] <trilobiti> kushalsejwal: actually not as polished as ubuntu, but the repository of software is vast.
[16:34] <maniheer> kushalsejwal, u = expert ?
[16:34] <DekRNR> thank FrankT-Qc
[16:34] <trilobiti> I use them both.
[16:34] <Gnea> !repeat | DekRNR
[16:34] <b1nt4n6> quit
[16:34] <DasEi1> Pici: was for ***Dek..., nor ?
[16:34] <Aethelred> voltage__: and the extent to which the auto-GUI-tool works well, and is deserving of user confidence, is (part of) the extent to which I can keep users using Ubuntu.
[16:34] <voltage__> Aethelred: Fair enough. The GUI has come a long way, for example the 8.04 flash install just works, never had that before. Not as many tweaks req. out of the box
[16:34] <Pici> DasEi1: Yes, sorry.
[16:35] <Azhi_Dahaka> I want Pidgin to start as soon as Gnome starts...how can i achieve that?
[16:35] <DasEi1> Pici: np
[16:35] <kushalsejwal> trilobiti : okay , I gave ubuntu's child Mint a try and it was good
[16:35] <kushalsejwal> maniheer: kushalsejwal, u = expert ? what does this mean??
[16:35] <bartmon1> !vnc
[16:35] <leox> !xchat
[16:35] <trilobiti> kushalsejwal: by any means I encourage you to try Debian. Or any distro as for that. Learning never ends and the more you see the more you understand how it works.
[16:35] <JunHowl> why does this script give me the error: Missing argument to -exec
[16:35] <trilobiti> :)
[16:35] <JunHowl> find . -size +210c -exec ls -l {}
[16:35] <leox> !php
[16:35] <maniheer> kushalsejwal, :P
[16:36] <Aethelred> voltage__: This doesn't feel like a GUI issue, really. The info about the package needs to come with the package. The details of an Important Security Update should never say "Um, we can't really tell you".
[16:36] <maniheer> i meant are u an expert?
[16:36] <bartmon1> !FreeNX > bartmon1
[16:36] <DasEi1> if I have to do a update-initramfs on a sys with seperate /boot,  is the /boot the one I have to chroot in from live ?
[16:36] <jay2> what is BenC?
[16:36] <ikonia> a user
[16:36] <kushalsejwal> maniheer: No mate, I am just newbie, started ubuntu around a year ago and just learning from people like you :)
[16:36] <FrankT-Qc> I'm totally new to IRC, someone can explain what !whatsoever means ?
[16:37] <komputes> soneil: file -s /dev/scd0 works - thanks
[16:37] <Pici> FrankT-Qc: Its just a trigger to invoke our channel's bot (ubottu) to respond.
[16:37] <voltage__> Aethelred: Your right, I hope that is't the exception not the rule. Having the fix there is the first step so long as the description follows
[16:37] <jay2> BenC is a user?
[16:37] <DasEi1>  FrankT-Qc: Join #freenode
[16:37] <Pici> !bot > FrankT-Qc
[16:37] <JunHowl> why does this script give me the error: Missing argument to -exec
[16:37] <ikonia> yes
[16:37] <JunHowl> find . -size +210c -exec ls -l {}
[16:37] <aet419> jim_p r u there?
[16:37] <sammy> is there a irc channel for intrepid beta
[16:37] <maniheer> kushalsejwal, more exp. than me m8
[16:37] <Pici> sammy: #ubuntu+1
[16:37] <sammy> tyvm
[16:37] <kushalsejwal> trilobiti: Very well said man, learning is an never ending process. But I decided to stick to ubuntu for a while and develop my Linux skills a bit and then would start distos hopping
[16:37] <DasEi1> sammy : see channel topic
[16:37] <jay2> hmmm okay I was just looking at the team wiki
[16:37] <Pici> JunHowl: -exec arguments need to end with \;
[16:37] <Gnea> JunHowl: find . -size +210c -exec ls -l {} \;
[16:38] <trilobiti> kushalsejwal: good choice :)
[16:38] <JunHowl> ty
[16:38] <Pici> !ot | Just a friendly reminder
[16:38] <jay2> and found BenC in it
[16:38] <seamus> Is cache the repository from whence apt got?
[16:38] <ikonia> jay2 thats right, he's a person
[16:38] <Pici> seamus: Can you rephrase that?
[16:39] <voltage__> debian is just as functional as ubuntu but not as gui orented (my view only). Also etch blows 6.06 out of water on bare install speeds
[16:39] <DasEi1> seamus: no, watch the /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:39] <jay2> okay cool and here I thought it was a program lol ty
[16:39] <kushalsejwal> maniheer: Time doesnt make you expirienced but the amount of interest and time you give that matters, I didnt worked much earlier and had a dual boot with XP but now I am full time on Ubuntu.
[16:40] <maniheer> kushalsejwal, i still am using windows
[16:40] <maniheer> stupid school
[16:40] <voltage__> I just like sticking it to the man. Pay enough for my pc parts why pay for software?
[16:40] <Pici> maniheer, kushalsejwal: Could you please take the non-support conversations to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:40] <maniheer> Pici, i owe u money :P
[16:41] <Azhi_Dahaka> no ideas?
[16:41] <Jack[-_-]asS> anyone know something about protech?
[16:41] <trilobiti> voltage__: my personal choice has been so far: Debian for servers, Ubuntu for desktops.
[16:41] <Pici> !session | Azhi_Dahaka
[16:41] <kushalsejwal> Pici: sorry, suggestion well taken
[16:41] <Pici> !ot | trilobiti voltage__
[16:41] <seamus> DasEi1: I see.  Then I shall make haste at once to the sources of list.  Fare thee well, good sir knight.
[16:41] <trilobiti> point taken Pici
[16:41] <JunHowl> Gnea:  that command isn't 'piping' the results because I'm getting files less than 210bytes
[16:41] <JunHowl> Gnea: that doesn't seem right to u?
[16:42] <kushalsejwal> maniheer: I would leave now, Best of luck, nice talking to you man. Bye
[16:42] <draven1005> if your running 8.04 64bit and install mysql via apt-get, will it be the 64bit version of mysql or 32
[16:42] <kushalsejwal>  trilobiti: Thanks once again bro. Bye
[16:42] <trilobiti> draven1005: 64bit
[16:42] <trilobiti> np kushalsejwal
[16:43] <draven1005> trilobiti: awesome
[16:43] <_Lucretia_> if I install envyng will this install the newer ati drivers that can handle compiz properly (e.g. with movies working as overlays, etc.)? Thanks
[16:43] <maniheer> _Lucretia_, it should
[16:43] <danbh_intrepid> !envy | _Lucretia_
[16:43] <Gnea> JunHowl: you are?
[16:43] <JunHowl> Gnea: yea
[16:44] <JunHowl> Gnea: its giving all the files in the directory
[16:44] <trilobiti> draven1005: I have apt-get'ed several things and most of them were 64 bit. Matter of factly I haven't tried with mysql, but being a supported package, i'd say it's 64bit
[16:44] <_Lucretia_> maniheer: ta
[16:44]  * _Lucretia_ crosses fingers
[16:44] <draven1005> trilobiti: happen to know a way to verify?
[16:44] <tylrd> where does OpenOffice sets the config so it can display the menus and columns in normal english chars not boxes (and checkmarks, asterisk,etc) -- menus are unreadable for me right now
[16:45] <Gnea> JunHowl: well yeah, directories are typically 4096 bytes by default
[16:45] <voltage__> trilobiti: I am finding out the hard way your right. I have 2 etch servers but want a ubuntu gui machine for admin (using win xp/putty at the moment)
[16:45] <Gnea> JunHowl: and you're asking it to 'find' everything in whatever it finds
[16:45] <aet419> can't use Alsa mixer someone help
[16:45] <voltage__> trilobiti: I am one virus away from having access to my servers lol
[16:45] <maniheer> aet419, wats the error?
[16:45] <vilhelm> should I change my port for ssh from 22 to more than 1024 to avoid hack attempts?
[16:46] <draven1005> vilhelm: thats like putting your front door on the side of your house....    it may help keep some automated attempts down, but doesn't really matter IMHO.
[16:46] <JunHowl> Gnea: hmmm so how to modify? i tried taking out the .
[16:46] <v0lksman> is openVPN the "current" solution for creating site to site vpns? is there something better?
[16:46] <voltage__> I'd disable my root account first vilhelm
[16:46] <trilobiti> vilhelm: see /etc/ssh/sshd_config
 yeah i already changed the port from 22 to 1028
[16:47] <trilobiti> vilhelm: did you restart the server ?
[16:47] <Gnea> JunHowl: find . -maxdepth 0 -size +210c -exec ls -l {} \;
 yes I did
[16:48] <tylrd> where does OpenOffice sets the config so it can display the menus in normal english chars not boxes (and checkmarks, asterisk,etc) -- menus are unreadable for me right now
[16:48] <maniheer> ikonia, did I miss someone get kicked?
[16:48] <trilobiti> vilhelm: you might have to see the logfiles what they say about it.
[16:48] <voltage__> did it prompt for new keys or just connect normally?
[16:48] <ikonia> maniheer no
[16:48] <Jack[-_-]asS> jebo vas ja al ste pametni
[16:48] <cafenet4> co_cancer
[16:48] <Gnea> v0lksman: openvpn is pretty much the best non-ipsec vpn
[16:48] <cafenet4> #semarang
[16:49] <Jack[-_-]asS> munem
 I looked at the log files and everyhing seemd fine :)
[16:49] <Jack[-_-]asS> mrk
[16:49] <Jack[-_-]asS> pusite kurac
[16:49] <Gnea> !english | Jack[-_-]asS
[16:49] <Jack[-_-]asS> prc
[16:49] <v0lksman> Gnea: cool...just wanted to make sure...don't suppose you know which keys I specify in a client.conf file?  are they the ones I specified on the server (IE pass the key and crt to a client in order for them to setup a connection?)
[16:50] <Jack[-_-]asS> Gnea
[16:50] <IcyPolecat> anybody know a good twitter client for kubuntu?
[16:50] <Jack[-_-]asS> pusi ga
[16:50] <Jack[-_-]asS> find out what that is asshole
[16:50] <sudoconfused> where?
[16:50] <bazhang> Jack[-_-]asS, english
[16:50] <Pici> IcyPolecat: I've heard good things about gwibber
[16:50] <FFForever> how do i install flash
[16:50] <v0lksman> IcyPolecat: I use gwibber-webkit...very nice...
[16:50] <JunHowl> Gnea: thats not right :D
[16:50] <Gnea> v0lksman: there's an extensive howto on their website that details exactly what needs to be copied over
[16:51] <ikonia> jay2sleep: please self moderate your language
[16:51] <ikonia> oops
[16:51] <JunHowl> Gnea: doesn't work
[16:51] <ikonia> jay2sleep: sorry
[16:51] <v0lksman> Gnea: hrm...ok...I was following a third party how to...will check theirs...thanks!
[16:51] <Gnea> JunHowl: oh you're right, it doesn't traverse..
[16:51] <FFForever> i really would like to see youtube....
[16:51] <ikonia> sorry, terrible lag
[16:51] <trilobiti> vilhelm: odd. I changend mine and it worked.
[16:51] <Gnea> JackOS: it says that you're in the wrong place.
[16:51] <Gnea> oops
[16:51] <Gnea> JackOS: sorry
[16:51] <jjohnson> anyone here good at getting drivers to work?
[16:52] <JunHowl> Gnea: heh so you're not sure alright
[16:52] <Gnea> JunHowl: well, i was reading the manpage :)
[16:52] <JunHowl> Gnea: thx anyway I"ll work on it later gotta go :)
[16:52] <Gnea> JunHowl: cheers, good luck
[16:52] <FFForever> !flash
[16:52] <terrestre> well ubuntu have a gui tool to set the print but i need to select the drivers of the printer, and its know driver available to linux. someone can give me a link or some advices?
[16:54] <jjohnson> im just having a very hard time getting this driver to work, its wlags49_h1_cs, downloaded from the ubuntu forums, it compiles fine but it looks like the wireless card isnt associating with that driver, i saw in the forums the all someone needed to do was change the manufacturer id and a ffew other things to make it work on there card, but after looking into the source i cannot find the manfid. can anyone help me on this
[16:54] <trilobiti> vilhelm: try another port. Maybe what you're using is already taken from some other service. I changed from 22 to 1050 and it worked for me, just now.
[16:55] <draven1005> vilhelm: try:   lsof -i | grep ssh
[16:55] <kiyiko> is it feasable to run ubuntu off of a flash drive, or will it be too slow for normal use?
[16:55] <Gnea> !print > terrestre
[16:55] <Gnea> kiyiko: depends what you run off of it
[16:56] <kiyiko> i mostly just run the simple games, like cards, and chess...and internet/email/music
[16:57] <v0lksman> Gnea: just for confirmation (if you know) the ca.crt and client1.crt and key along with the client.conf file would be all I need to pass around correct?
[16:57] <trilobiti> kiyiko: if you have aplications that use the disk extensibly, stay away from it. For usual things I'd go by trying it and see if it's acceptable.
[16:57] <IcyPolecat> Pici: v0lksman: thanks will give it a whirl
[16:58] <kiyiko> ok, thanks
[16:58] <Gnea> v0lksman: not entirely sure, you should ask in #openvpn
[16:58] <teban> hi to compile java code?? gcj File.java
[16:59] <jim_p> back
[16:59] <jim_p> !gr
[17:00] <|UsEr-LoLLoSo1|> ciao
[17:00] <|UsEr-LoLLoSo1|> !list
[17:01] <apolo> #lord-team
[17:02] <SabreWolfy> Nvidia Integrated 7100 -- I cannot get this card to give me any more than 800x600 resolution; I've tried the repository drivers, drivers from nvidia and envy (which removed the 800x600 option!) any ideas ???
[17:02] <FrankT-Qc> !mono
[17:02] <FrankT-Qc> !mono | FrankT-Qc
[17:03] <ikonia> FrankT-Qc you've just seen it doesn't know anything about mono
[17:03] <dystopianray> hello
[17:03] <ikonia> dystopianray hello
[17:03] <dystopianray> what is ubuntu?
[17:03] <dystopianray> what purpose does it fullfil?
[17:03] <ikonia> dystopianray a linux based operating system see http://www.ubuntu.com for more info
[17:04] <FrankT-Qc> ikonia actually, i'm not that interested in mono right now as in learning how the bot works... (first time here, sorry for the inconvenience)
[17:04] <dystopianray> what are its requirements?
[17:04] <ikonia> FrankT-Qc if you message the bot you can play with it in private
[17:04] <Pici> FrankT-Qc: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[17:04] <ikonia> dystopianray: they are listed on ubuntu.com
[17:04] <dystopianray> how does ubuntu differ from other varieties of linux?
[17:04] <Pici> !requirements | dystopianray
[17:04] <vilhelm> yeah well the 1028 port works .. I think everything works now hehe :)
[17:04] <terrestre> mono? .net framework?
[17:04] <Gnea> dystopianray: it's better.
[17:05] <dystopianray> Gnea: in what way?
[17:05] <trilobiti> vilhelm: good job :)
[17:05] <ikonia> dystopianray too many minor differences to list, it's a very polished product though
[17:05] <Gnea> dystopianray: too many to list here. ubuntu.com has it all spelled out. they ways in which ubuntu is better may or may not fit with your needs.
 thx :)
[17:06] <dystopianray> ikonia: how is it polished?
[17:06] <Gnea> dystopianray: er, "the ways"
[17:06] <dystopianray> Gnea: can you summarise it?
[17:06] <ikonia> dystopianray no, too many to list, it's a polished release though
[17:06] <Gnea> dystopianray: no, that is what the website is for.
[17:06] <loz> hello, i wondered if anybody could help me, i have acquired A wmv  I would like to watch, but i can't seem to play it, now i have downloaded the win 64 codecs, and i can play other wmv files, but there are three that i can't seem to watch, i have tried with sevral apps including the trusty vlc, but all i seem to be getting is a really colurful but fuzy video, any idease?
[17:06] <jay> hello room..
[17:06] <ikonia> dystopianray: more details are available on ubuntu.com and distrowatch.com
[17:06] <dystopianray> the website is difficult to understand
[17:06] <jamesish> dystopianray: really, if you're not interested sufficiently to check out the website, don't worry about it.
[17:06] <dystopianray> I need a summary of it
[17:06] <ikonia> dystopianray in what respect
[17:07] <ikonia> dystopianray: what is hard to understand
[17:07] <dystopianray> the purpose of ubuntu
[17:07] <jamesish> Sounds like we're doing a homework assignment for him :P
[17:07] <ikonia> dystopianray: it's a linux operating system - thats it
[17:07] <RyanPrior> Is there a command I can use to tell whether the contents of two folders are identical?
[17:07] <dystopianray> why did mark shuttleworth make an operating system using linux?
[17:07] <ikonia> RyanPrior a while loop with diff ?
[17:07] <dystopianray> instead of using something superior
[17:07] <Gnea> dystopianray: how is it difficult to understand? you need to take the time to read it. i see that you are spending more time asking questions in here.
[17:07] <loz> hello, i wondered if anybody could help me, i have acquired A wmv  I would like to watch, but i can't seem to play it, now i have downloaded the win 64 codecs, and i can play other wmv files, but there are three that i can't seem to watch, i have tried with sevral apps including the trusty vlc, but all i seem to be getting is a really colurful but fuzy video, any ideas?
[17:07] <dystopianray> like BeOS
[17:07] <ikonia> dystopianray he wanted to help progress linux it's all listed on the website
[17:08] <jamesish> RyanPrior: make an md5sum of the directories. I thknk the command is md5sum. Either that or md5
[17:08] <bazhang> !training | dystopianray read this
[17:08] <dystopianray> ikonia: why does he need a website though?
[17:08] <Gnea> dystopianray: because BeOS is not superior.
[17:08] <Pici> dystopianray: This isn't really the focus of this channel.  If you want to chat about Ubuntu, you can join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[17:08] <Gnea> !offtopic | dystopianray
[17:08] <ikonia> dystopianray ubuntu has a website - which explains all about it http:/www.ubuntu.com
[17:08] <bazhang> dystopianray, please chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:08] <Gnea> dystopianray: please, I will be more than happy to discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:10] <craigbass1976> Anyone ever opened up access files with oobase?
[17:10] <terrestre> there's no working linux's driver for my network printer so i thought to installed in another pc running winxp and print there from ubuntu. is that possible?
[17:11] <loz> ubotu :how to play WMV files encoded with DRM (Digital Rights Management) ?
[17:11] <RyanPrior> jamesish: md5sum and openssl both complain that they don't work on folders, and I don't see an option in the man page...
[17:11] <kri> hi
[17:11] <kri> cant find a faq for installing windowmaker
[17:11] <kri> dont like gnome
[17:12] <RyanPrior> loz: You burn them to an MP3 CD using the software that they're licensed to work with, then you rip them back to the computer, then you re-encode them using a Free codec, or install the non-Free mp3 codec.
[17:12] <jamesish> RyanPrior: make a tarball of them, then md5sum. Done.
[17:12] <loz> Ryan
[17:12] <Qwerty_> are there any voip softwares that are not p2p?
[17:12] <apolo> #ubuntu.fr
[17:13] <loz> RyanPrior: thanks, can i burn them with k3b ?
[17:13] <RyanPrior> jamesish: No way I'm making two 20GB tarballs and digesting both of them. I'd like the test to fail as soon as it finds bits which are not identical...
[17:13] <voltage__> loz: I did the latter (non free mp3 plugin) Then used xmms for my player for all my audio
[17:13] <voltage__> but xmms isn't in 8.04 or at least I can apt-get it
[17:13] <loz> k
[17:13] <voltage__> *Can't
[17:14] <craigbass1976> xmm2?
[17:14] <RyanPrior> loz: No, if they are WMVs with DRM, you need to burn them using the software with which they are designed to play. That will probably be Windows Media Player.
[17:14] <craigbass1976> xmms2 I meant
[17:14] <voltage__> is it a newer one?
[17:14] <craigbass1976> Isn't that out for the newest oob?
[17:14] <voltage__> I'll have to try that one
[17:14] <jamesish> RyanPrior: okay. write a recursive descent into the directories; once your workers reach the base of the directories, start md5summing. If you're only looking for a name by name comparison, just do a find into the dirs printing out the names, redirect to 2 files and use diff.
[17:14] <craigbass1976> I thought so, but just upgraded to hardy lately on my home box and haven't yet messed with it
[17:15] <loz> RyanPrior, : cheers, but i don't have microshite in my household, do you think attempting installing Windows media player through wine is risky? or just imposible?
[17:15] <voltage__> yeah well on xubuntu 6.06 xmms went find but 8.04 xmms not found (neither is bitchx)
[17:16] <voltage__> fine* (to much caffeene)
[17:16] <RyanPrior> loz: Wine is not a good solution for things like this. I suggest going to a mate's house or to a public library with Windows software available.
[17:16] <dystopianray> Ioz: why do you dislike microsoft?
[17:16] <loz> RyanPrior: thanks i guess i ll do that, just another great thing from microsoft!
[17:16] <RyanPrior> dystopianray: That's a good discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:16] <voltage__> loz I would try out VLC man for playing videos (once you tweak ubuntu that is)
[17:17] <kri> ?
[17:17] <kri> mplayer
[17:17] <kri> do the job very well
[17:17] <RyanPrior> voltage__: VLC has lots of codecs, but it doesn't play DRM'd content.
[17:17] <lolmac> asd
[17:17] <kri> how about mplayer
[17:17] <loz> kri: drm with m player, i don't think so, i have tried, and also vlc
[17:17] <kri> what drm?
[17:17] <Azhi_Dahaka> wow...smplayer is DAMN fugly
[17:18] <loz> digital rights managment
[17:18] <Qwerty_> are there any voip softwares that are not p2p?
[17:18] <RyanPrior> http://www.eff.org/issues/drm
[17:18] <aet419> jim_p r u there?
[17:18] <kri> how do i get windowmaker instat of gnome? is it a hard process?
[17:19] <catfox> is anybody using ibex beta with an ati video card? i'm trying to install fglrx via synaptic, but it's uninstallable (tries to remove the entire xorg install), even on a clean install.
[17:19] <Fly-Man-> Evening all :)
[17:19] <jim_p> aet419: here i am!
[17:19] <Fly-Man-> I have a simple but for me dumb Question
[17:19] <os2mac> ubottu: os2mac Gimp
[17:19] <Fly-Man-> I have a patch file that I want to use
[17:19] <RyanPrior> Fly-Man-: Ask away.
[17:19] <os2mac> ubottu: Gimp 2.6
[17:19] <Fly-Man-> how do I apply it ?
[17:19] <voltage__> Don't most DRM'd dvd's come with their own player for windows? I remember I couldn't get Saint Anger audio cd to rip but it would play if i installed windows program provided. Then you have to play/record and save recordings (pain)
[17:19] <RyanPrior> !botabuse | os2mac
[17:20] <v0lksman> os2mac: check out getdeb
[17:20] <aet419> jim_p i done everything as u said but still nothing change.
[17:20] <jim_p> Fly-Man-: a .patch file is aplied at the source code of the program
[17:20] <Qwerty_> Btw, are there any IM that one could use to talk from a Ubuntu computer to a Windows Computer?
[17:21] <dystopianray> Qwerty_: MSN
[17:21] <RyanPrior> Qwerty_: Almost any IM should work.
[17:21] <Pici> !pidgin | Qwerty_
[17:21] <srini> any gurus out there familiar with tcpdump/tshark and how to look at the results.. I see traffic, but only the handshake of it.. connection doesnt proceed further when trying to access a web url
[17:21] <dystopianray> some IM is not usable in linux
[17:21] <dystopianray> like Steam friends
[17:21] <waj> where to get conio.h & process.h header files for Ubuntu
[17:21] <Qwerty_> sorry, I was not clear i mean as in voice calls
[17:21] <ljsoftnet> can i disable the effects on icons, when i launch an application, on the taskbar in compizConfig?
[17:21] <dystopianray> Qwerty_: kopete and google talk
[17:22] <RyanPrior> Qwerty_: Skype, or Ekiga plus any Windows SIP or XMPP/Jingle client.
[17:22] <DaCapn> Anyone else ever notice Ubuntu having problems reading SD cards greater than 1GB in size (I have two 2GB cards and neither can copy/read photos after 1GB worth).
[17:22] <waj> how to Use getch(); & clrscr() in Ubuntu
[17:22] <waj> conio.h
[17:22] <waj> wanted
[17:23] <v0lksman> waj:  do a search in synaptic for "what provides"
[17:23] <RyanPrior> !patience | waj
[17:23] <jim_p> aet419: well that means there is no other solution? i am out of ideas
[17:23] <voltage__> DaCapn: make sure there is not trash folder on your sd card ( seen that in debian only)
[17:23] <waj> sorry for the rude behaviour (if any)
[17:24] <DaCapn> You've seen that problem in Debian only or you've seen Debian add .TRashes?
[17:24] <aet419> jim_p: i am out of ideas too, i am tring to fix it for last few days. now i give up
[17:25] <jim_p> aet419: are you on 64?
[17:25] <aet419> jim_p: no 32
[17:25] <vishal> hi there !
[17:26] <ljsoftnet> can i disable the effects on icons, when i launch an application, on the taskbar in compizConfig?
[17:27] <vishal> it culd be done with the help of theme manager
[17:27] <rblst> how can i make gdesklets icons not to show up on my lower panel?
[17:28] <bruenig> there is an option in the gdesklets preferences
[17:29] <vishal> anybody knows about the dspam installation ?
[17:29] <en1gma> i think i screwed something up with my ubuntu 8.04-I3860Desktop install.....everything was running great for the last week....today i decided i wanted to see my vista raid0 so i installed dmraid
[17:29] <DasEi1> if I have to do a update-initramfs on a sys with seperate /boot,  is the /boot the one I have to chroot in from live ?
[17:29] <en1gma> then i rebooted and now the initramfs help screen comes on
[17:29] <jim_p> aet419: is the module blacklisted anyhow?
[17:30] <en1gma> can anyone tell me what i need to do to be able to get booted back up into ubuntu
[17:30] <rblst> can anyone tell me how i can make gdesklets icons not to show up on my lower panel?
[17:30] <migm2> i have an annoying problem
[17:30] <aet419> jim_p: ye i think too
[17:30] <migm2> scrolling, say in man pages or when using hte buffer
[17:31] <migm2> is very slow in ubuntu
[17:31] <migm2> any idea?
[17:31] <en1gma> dont spam is first idea
[17:31] <rgpa> visit us www.detikmadura.com develop on ubuntu linux 7.10
[17:31] <osubuck> im thinking about installing the 8.10 beta, will there be a way to upgrade to the final when its released rather than burning another cd?
[17:31] <jim_p> en1gma: that raid array was on software raid?
[17:31] <en1gma> yea
[17:31] <en1gma> its nvraid
[17:31] <migm2> hey en1gma .. suck one! :)
[17:31] <ikonia> en1gma: if it's fake raid it's possible
[17:31] <jim_p> en1gma: then you screwed everything up!
[17:31] <Pici> !enter
[17:32] <ikonia> en1gma: fakeraid is a terrible technology and from a personal point of view I advise strongly against using it / trying to use it
[17:32] <Pici> rgpa: Pleae don't advertise here, this is a support channel.
[17:32] <en1gma> ive used dmraid a million times on other distros over the last 2 years
[17:32] <v0lksman> osubuck:  yes...just upgrade and it will bring in the new packages as hey are released...
[17:32] <en1gma> this is 1st time ive had trouble
[17:32] <ljsoftnet> can i disable the effects on shortcut icons in the gnome panel, in compizConfig?
[17:32] <v0lksman> hey=they
[17:32] <rblst> migm2: have you checked the key repeat rate?
[17:32] <osubuck> v0lksman: so it will be the same as having the final release? all of the artwork etc?
[17:33] <aet419> jim_p: thanks for tring to help me, i am feeling very sleepy now, leaving. bye
[17:33] <migm2> rblst: no, where's that
[17:33] <v0lksman> osubuck: yep...should be...however any customizations you make will be treated as such...(the same way they are in normal updating)
[17:33] <v0lksman> ljsoftnet: use the Compiz Control Center to change animations
[17:34] <jim_p> aet419: ok see you tomorrow
[17:34] <Whitor> Does anyone know of a good IRC client that runs strictly in a terminal window ?
[17:34] <v0lksman> Whitor: irssi
[17:34] <jim_p> Whitor: irssi
[17:34] <noodlesgc> Whitor irssi
[17:34] <ljsoftnet> v0lksman, which option should i change?, it has many options
[17:34] <maniheer> Whitor, irssi
[17:34] <noodlesgc> wow
[17:34] <IcyPolecat> Whitor: irssi
[17:34] <Whitor> Well then ... I guess the jury is in !
[17:34] <rblst> migm2: system->settings->keyboard
[17:34] <maghettino> #ubuntu-it
[17:35] <brad_> what does ubuntu have that debian does not ?
[17:35] <v0lksman> ljsoftnet: gonna have to hunt for that but I believe there is an "animations" category that you can dig through
[17:35] <rblst> how  can i make gdesklets icons not to show up on my lower panel?
[17:35] <ljsoftnet> v0lksman ok
[17:35] <migm2> rblst: its towards the first third for both
[17:35] <Whitor> Thank you v0lksman, jim_p, noodlesgc, maniheer, IcyPolecat
[17:35] <jim_p> and now Whitor says: "i dont like irssi, something else?" :P
[17:35] <jim_p> you are welcome
[17:35] <Villano> Hello
[17:35] <osubuck> glad to see this v0lksman > would you personally recommend that i go ahead and install it?
[17:35] <IcyPolecat> np
[17:36] <rblst> migm2: try changing it, see if it makes any difference
[17:36] <migm2> towards the slower?
[17:36] <v0lksman> osubuck: hahaha..not gonna make a recommendation as I have no idea what you use your machine for...I have in the past but always keep in mind that it is pre-release...
[17:36] <DasEi1> !broadcom>sammy
[17:36] <rblst> migm2: i guess towards the faster
[17:36] <migm2> rblst: i don't think that was it.. hrm
[17:37] <migm2> rblst: ill keep looking, thanks
[17:37] <rblst> how  can i make gdesklets icons not to show up on my lower panel?
[17:38] <Villano> I have a server running with Ubuntu Server 8.04....and it doesn't have a monitor. I want to be able to place a CD and that Ubuntu mount it automatically. Just like it does in the Desktop version.
[17:38] <en1gma> so no one knows what happened to my ubuntu system that was "installed on a single hard drive" when i installed dmraid and rebooted it wouldnt boot....did it change the drive boot order or something?
[17:38] <Villano> How can I do this ?
[17:38] <ikonia> Villano you need a desktop
[17:38] <ikonia> Villano: thats hal and dbus working
[17:38] <ikonia> Villano: they are part of the gnome desktop setup
[17:38] <srini> any gurus here in linux TOS bit and iproute2 based routing ?
[17:38] <neoprog> Hello
[17:39] <jim_p> Villano: automount?
[17:39] <jim_p> !automount
[17:39] <Villano> ikonia: is there some way I can do that without the Desktop. I mean.... it is a real server, in a rack. It's not a normal CPU running as a server
[17:39] <jim_p> silly bot!
[17:39] <ikonia> Villano you'd need to install hal and dbus
[17:39] <neoprog> please, grub can acces directely to /dev/mapper/mydisqk ?
[17:39] <osubuck> v0lksman: just basic home desktop
[17:39] <Villano> And it's working as a FileServer with Samba
[17:39] <jim_p> Villano: there is a package named automount that does what you want
[17:39] <ikonia> Villano: but that will pull down some of the desktop packages
[17:40] <jim_p> Villano: it does not need x, but you have to configure it through some /etc/auto* files
[17:40] <ikonia> Villano: yes, jim's suggestion of te legacy automount package will work too, good call jim_p
[17:40] <Villano> Ok.... guys... I'll google for that. Thank's a lot for pointing me to the right direction  :D
[17:40] <jim_p> thanks ikonia
[17:41] <v0lksman> osubuck: still hard to say.  if you are adventurous and have nothing to loose then sure.  If you NEED your machine to work at all times then wait.  I won't be going to 8.10 until I find a reason to (which will likely present itself in the next week or two and likely something I fabricate... :) )
[17:41] <Villano> Thank's ikonia, thanks Jim
[17:42] <osubuck> alright, guess i'll stick to pclos gnome till oct 30th :P
[17:42] <matthijs_> !dutch
[17:42] <rblst> is there a way to make running gdesklets icon not to appear on my panel?
[17:42] <v0lksman> osubuck: ew....switch now... :P
[17:42] <v0lksman> osubuck: (kidding...do it when it feels right.. ;) )
[17:43] <osubuck> :P
[17:44] <henk1> hello, I have an asus v1j laptop that complains that suspend fails when I resume from suspend. I can't really see that anything isn't working though..... should I be worried? Can I do anything?
[17:44] <noodlesgc> henk1 lots of people have suspend issues
[17:45] <jeroen-> what application must I install to change the way HAL  handles automatic application launches when plugging in usb-devices (like an ipod)?
[17:45] <henk1> anything to worry about?
[17:45] <tictac232434> !tarball
[17:45] <ubuntudude> my key key doesn't ork
[17:46] <tictac232434> !compile
[17:46] <pastorjohn> hi folks
[17:46] <pastorjohn> I just installed 8.04 server, and am coming up with the dreaded grub error 17.
[17:46] <pastorjohn> I've googled it, but am not sure about the solution.  Anyone here dealt with this before?
[17:47] <xphree_> Hello to all, i upgraded my Ubuntu server to Hardy and it show me some errors that i can't fix
[17:47] <xphree_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/55056/
[17:47] <jim_p> pastorjohn: restore grub
[17:47] <noodlesgc> henk1 you should try to find a launchpad report of it by searching your model and if it is not there, file a report
[17:47] <xphree_> anyone knows what is the solution to this ?
[17:48] <pastorjohn> jim_p: OK, how do to so?
[17:48] <henk1> ok, I checked for test of my laptop, doesn't exist.... where do I file a report and what kind of info should I attach?
[17:49] <pastorjohn> I did, from the livecd (where I'm at) grub, then from the grub< prompt, find /boot/grub/stage1
[17:50] <jjohnson> d
[17:50] <pastorjohn> Here's what it returned: (hd1,4) (hd1,6)
[17:50] <jeroen-> what application must I install to change the way HAL  handles automatic application launches when plugging in usb-devices (like an ipod)?
[17:50] <jjohnson> anyone in here ever mess with the Agere wlags49 driver?
[17:51] <jim_p> !grub | pastorjohn
[17:52] <tgra> Do anybodt use the Beta here? I have problems with sound when using Ekiga...
[17:52] <hateball> tgra: try #ubuntu+1 for Intrepid
[17:53] <tgra> Ok.. thank you hateball!
[17:53] <voglster> i did a netstat -tn and found some random connections i dont recognize.. how do i find out what program is creating them?
[17:55] <Mechdave> voglster, what ports are they on?
[17:55] <voglster> Mechdave: 8001 remote port.. im guessing irc ;-) but i was wondering if i can check it anyways
[17:56] <Mechdave> voglster, that is the same as my machine... it will be IRC
[17:56] <Mechdave> voglster, something like -->  <IP_ADDRESS>:8001
[17:56] <smoorman> hey, i have a simple question.. how do i install a usb device onto debian?
[17:57] <smoorman> or.. where can i look to know how?
[17:57] <soundray> smoorman: try #debian
[17:57] <voglster> Mechdave: indeed... it was more of a "how do I check this" type question in the future
[17:57] <enzotib> voglster, the -p option to netstat tells the process
[17:57] <pastorjohn> So guys, I don't have a floppy on this laptop, but the system can boot fine from the cd/dvd drives.  Can I do the grub howto bootfloppy on a cd?
[17:57] <smoorman> thanks
[17:57] <voglster> enzotib: ty
[17:57] <osubuck> v0lksman: heck with it, im going to burn the 8.10 iso and install it :P then i can just update it and have the final when its released :D
[17:58] <komputes> is there a way that I can tell from the command line that a DVD is encrypted with Content Scrambling System (CSS) ?
[17:58] <xphree_> _win 2
[17:58] <Mechdave> voglster, well I always start with the iana port listing and see if the port is associated with any program... then I go from there
[17:59] <Mechdave> voglster, also you could do a whois on the ip address and see who owns it
[18:00] <genii> voglster: lsof -i:8001
[18:00] <voglster> Mechdave: i know, i was looking to see what process had opened the port... and enzotib answered it... u can add -p to netstat to see the opening process
[18:00] <en1gma> i had a single drive ubuntu install working great....i installed dmraid so it would pick up my windows raid0 drive (all i wanted it to be able to do was read data off the windwos drive when i was in ubuntu off the SINGLE drive) how can installing dmraid cause my system not to boot
[18:00] <en1gma> at the most it should do is not recognize the raid0
[18:00] <RickZilla_> New user here--is there a good list of terminal commands/syntax I can refer to, instead of asking in here all the time?
[18:00] <en1gma> but it should still BOOT
[18:01] <ikonia> en1gma fake raid is a bad technology
[18:01] <voglster> genii: much cleaner and quick thankyou
[18:01] <wtgee> Hola todos.  Can someone confirm for me that gpg --send-keys should do something?
[18:01] <genii> voglster: np
[18:01] <ikonia> en1gma: what error do you get when you try to boot
[18:01] <soundray> !cli > RickZilla_
[18:01] <en1gma> ikonia i been using dmraid for over 2 years and it worked fine
[18:01] <en1gma> on other distros
[18:01] <ikonia> en1gma: that doesn't make it a good technology
[18:01] <Mechdave> voglster, yeah it seems so
[18:01] <en1gma> i dont get an error i just get booted to the initramfs HELP screen