[05:43] <NetEcho> __ryan__ aMSN 0.97 (12/25/2007)
[05:43] <Lucifer666> ubuntu 8 is great
[05:44] <Lucifer666> well kubuntu
[05:44] <__ryan__> NetEcho,  i don't know then maybe i got a lemon :P
[05:44] <Flannel> vaportrail123new: Same one as what?  And, which one is that?
[05:44] <NetEcho> __ryan__ could be any number of issues really hard to tell
[05:44] <vaportrail123new> last time i burned the iso, it wouldnt boot from the disk
[05:44] <__ryan__> NetEcho,  yeah since i can't get webcam drivers working i don't really care for amsn anyway lol
[05:44] <Lucifer666> is your pc set up to boot from disc
[05:45] <ace_suares> swansk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/90318
[05:45] <NetEcho> Lucifer666 for the first time ever I think my laptop has full functionality
[05:45] <vaportrail123new> ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[05:45] <vaportrail123new> yes
[05:45] <NetEcho> Lucifer666 even under windows I couldn't get everything to work properly lol
[05:45] <jasonwood> anyone here
[05:45] <jasonwood> ?
[05:45] <Lucifer666> sweet Netecho
[05:45] <ace_suares> !ask | jasonwood
[05:45] <NetEcho> jasonwood about 1208 people
[05:45] <vaportrail123new> no jason
[05:45] <Lucifer666> same here
[05:45] <Flannel> vaportrail123new: Alright, How are you burning it?
[05:45] <vaportrail123new> the 1208 people thing is lieing
[05:45] <__ryan__> the one thing i can't get on my laptop on ubuntu is my built in webcam
[05:45] <Lucifer666> my laptop came with vista
[05:45] <jasonwood> oh
[05:45] <jasonwood> hehe
[05:45] <vaportrail123new> just straight drag and drop of the uncompressed files
[05:46] <Lucifer666> When I was in the Navy I just kept windows on it
[05:46] <jasonwood> where do you come?
[05:46] <NetEcho> Lucifer666 3 years and my laptop has never worked this well
[05:46] <Lucifer666> That's good
[05:46] <alex_mayorga> any people with a working MTP based MP3 player that might enlighten me please?
[05:46] <jasonwood> i am from china
[05:46] <ace_suares> __ryan__: better you give us make of laptop and lspci of webcam !?
[05:46] <jasonwood> you?
[05:46] <Lucifer666> Linux makes everything better
[05:46] <spoon_man> vaportrail123new, you have to create a bootable disc using the ISO -- dragging the ISO to the CD won't do that
[05:46] <Kelen> Flannel: I was forget told you, i removed FireFox3 B5 immediately after the system installs finished.. is that any wrong for me to install FireFox-3.0 again ?
[05:46] <swansk> Ok, can I still share my files and share my printer, even though I can't access THEIR computers and THEIR printers because of language issues.
[05:46] <ace_suares> jasonwood: what is the tow-letter code of china ?
[05:46] <Lucifer666> except when ryan messes everything up
[05:46] <vaportrail123new> ok, how do i do that
[05:46] <ace_suares> jasonwood: two-letter code.
[05:46] <NetEcho> Lucifer666 it was funny I put Ubuntu on my mom's PC earlier and was like "If my printer works before I install anything I'm gonna laugh" sure enough it worked before installing anything
[05:47] <Flannel> Kelen: nope, just reinstall it.
[05:47] <jasonwood> what is tow-letter?
[05:47] <tech0007> !cn | jasonwood
[05:47] <spoon_man> that depends on what CD burning software you're using -- and that software probably has a help file that explains everything it can do, so...
[05:47] <ace_suares> tech0007: ty !!!
[05:47] <Lucifer666> That's cool
[05:47] <int20> hi all! I want to chmod my files at webserver (user www-data). I want to rw-rw---- access rights. When i doing 'chmod -R 660 path' after that I see (ls -al) ?????????? ? ? ? ?                ? index.php
[05:47] <int20> what's wrong??
[05:47] <dfeuer> I have a T61p and am looking for help getting the CD/DVD drive to be quieter when I'm playing music.
[05:47] <jasonwood> i dont really know
[05:47] <jasonwood> hehe
[05:47] <swansk> The important thing is sharing my printer regardless of whether or not I can access other computers on the network.
[05:47] <__ryan__> ace2001ac,  it's an HP dv6315 and it's internally connected via usb this is the output though > Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0c45:62c0 Microdia
[05:48] <Starnestommy> int20: what kind of filesystem is it on?
[05:48] <vaportrail123new> well, what if i dont have any burning software, im just using the windows wizard thing
[05:48] <int20> Starnestommy: reiserfs
[05:48] <Flannel> vaportrail123new: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[05:48] <Kelen> Flannel: OK, thanks again..  :)
[05:48] <ace_suares> int20: filesystem or hardidsk problem ? drive mounted via sshfs ?
[05:48] <wuxia_> is the following possible: make space_down, space_up = ' '; space_down, key_x_down, key_x_up, space_up = 'mod3-x' ?
[05:48] <vaportrail123new> thanks
[05:48] <Flannel> vaportrail123new: The windows wizard own't work.  Windows doesn't know how to properly burn an ISO
[05:48] <int20> ace_suares: no problem...
[05:48] <spoon_man> vaportrail123new, you need software that specifically burns ISOs
[05:48] <aata> ace_suares why does dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg no longer give me the option of selecting vid card drivers?
[05:48] <NetEcho> Lucifer666 any idea how to set the default media player?
[05:49] <NetEcho> Wait never mind found it
[05:49] <spoon_man> !iso | vaportrail123new
[05:49] <dfeuer> Ive tried hdparm -M 128 /dev/cdrom, but that failed saying acoustic = not supported
[05:49] <NetEcho> prefered  apps
[05:49] <swansk> If I can share my printer I don't have to reinstal windows.
[05:49] <somnambulant> just download "iso recorder"- it puts an entry into the context menu to burn an iso
[05:49] <vaportrail123new> thanks man, using that how to
[05:49] <ace_suares> __ryan__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280121 ????
[05:49] <Lucifer666> I never tried to set a default player
[05:49] <int20> ace_suares: any ideas?
[05:49] <NetEcho> or not
[05:49] <NetEcho> Lucifer666 it just trys to open Totem when I pop a movie in
[05:50] <ace_suares> int20 did you answer my question ?
[05:50] <ace_suares> aata: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh ? or -plow ?
[05:50] <Lucifer666> which ubuntu are you using
[05:50] <NetEcho> 8.04
[05:50] <tech0007> System->preferences->removable drives & media
[05:50] <int20> ace_suares: with HDD - no problems, and I don't know how to check sshfs at this hdd or not.
[05:51] <NetEcho> tech0007 THANKS
[05:51] <vaportrail123new> well, if all goes well ill be back in like an hour
[05:51] <NetEcho> wait that wasn't for me lol
[05:51] <owner> can anyone help with nvidia card?
[05:51] <NetEcho> tech0007 do you know how to change the default media player for dvds? I thought it was under prefered apps but apparently not
[05:51] <Lucifer666> I have a new device manager on my taskbar it always asks me what I want to do with external media
[05:52] <ace_suares> int20: your problems sounds like it is a mounted sshfs volume, but are you saying it's just one computer with a hard disk ? no network connections ?
[05:52] <aata> ace_suares i get this sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:52] <aata> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[05:52] <aata>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080625095116
[05:52] <Lucifer666> Are you using kubuntu or ubuntu
[05:52] <int20> ace_suares: yes, no network connections
[05:52] <ace_suares> int20: hmm
[05:52] <aata> but no screen to reconfigure pops up
[05:52] <int20> ace_suares: /dev/sda3 on /var type reiserfs (rw,relatime)
[05:52] <ace_suares> maybe reboot and use 'recovery mode' and then try e2fsck /dev/hda1 (or /dev/whatever your partitions are).
[05:53] <ace_suares> int20: maybe reboot and use 'recovery mode' and then try e2fsck /dev/hda1 (or /dev/whatever your partitions are).
[05:53] <Cosmo-san> hey guys, a while back I remember running a battery optimization/fixing program on Ubuntu, but I can't seem to find it.  does anyone else know the program?  It seemed to give life back to a dying battery, not just dimming the LCD and all that power saving stuff.
[05:53] <int20> ace_suares: when i do" chmod -R 777 - it looks okay...
[05:53] <int20> rwxrwxrwx :)
[05:53] <ace_suares> int20: so e2fsck -y /dev/sda3 (at your own risk !)
[05:54] <int20> ace_suares: thank you, I try.
[05:54] <ace_suares> int20: VERY weird. i had a client with a RAM problem and that f*** up reiserfs badly.
[05:54] <ace_suares> int20: try reboot and run memtest (press ESC when Grub is loading !)
[05:54] <NetEcho> anyone know how to make Kaffeine the default dvd player?
[05:54] <ace_suares> int20: or reiserfsck ?
[05:55] <IanXX_> given two hard drives both SATA one 250Gb and the other 160GB which one would you guys put ubunut on ?
[05:55] <tech0007> NetEcho: kubuntu or ubuntu?
[05:55] <NetEcho> tech0007 ubuntu
[05:55] <ace_suares> IanXX_: on both using Raid 1
[05:55] <tech0007> NetEcho: try in Nautilus, edit->preferences. media tab
[05:55] <int20> ace_suares: reiserfsch report no problem
[05:56] <int20> *reiserfsck
[05:56] <ace_suares> int20: hmm did you reboot in recovery mode ?
[05:56] <ace_suares> int20: or just unmont /dev/sda3 ? Dont do fsck on a mounted drive !
[05:56] <NetEcho> tech0007 it doesn't show any other media stuff other then totem and rhythmbox
[05:57] <rabbit-> in shell, how can i leech files www.page.com/node1.txt www.page.com/node2.txt www.page.com/node3.txt in a for loop?
[05:57] <tech0007> NetEcho: check this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333714
[05:57] <__ryan__> ace2001ac, that worked mint i'm  not sure why i never found that before thanks
[05:58] <IanXX_> ace_suares:ok
[05:58] <ace_suares> rabbit-:  for i in `seq 1 3`; do echo "leeching $i"; wget -b www.page.com/node$i.txt; done
[05:58] <joe_chat> Is there a way to change the font color on the clock that appears in the gnome panel
[05:58] <bullgard4> alex_mayorga: Thank you for your information.
[05:58] <ace_suares> rabbit-:  for i in `seq 1 3`; do echo "leeching $i"; wget -b http://www.page.com/node$i.txt; done
[05:58] <rabbit-> thankyou
[05:58] <LTSimmons> hello everyone
[05:59] <IanXX_> ace_suares:don't both drives need to be the same size ?
[05:59] <yell0w> hi LTSimmons
[05:59] <LTSimmons> What are you guys doing in here?
[05:59] <ace_suares> IanXX_: no you loose 250-160 GB, but you can make that a un-raided drive and mount it under /noraid :-)
[05:59] <Xavura> I have Ubuntu on one HDD and Windows XP on another, when I try to open the Windows HDD from within Ubuntu it gives me some type of error about not being able to mount the drive, what do I do
[05:59] <Soulwarp> LTSimmons: this is a help channel
[06:00] <yell0w> LTSimmons: read the topic
[06:00] <ace_suares> Xavura: what is the error!?
[06:00] <ace_suares> !ntfs| Xavura
[06:00] <vozniak> iam using ati 8.6 drivers and get graphics corruption, someone see this?
[06:00] <alex_mayorga> bullgard4: not a problem
[06:00] <LTSimmons> Well, i guess I had a couple questions
[06:00] <ace_suares> vozniak ? Steve !?
[06:01] <Xavura> Thanks
[06:01] <ace_suares> !ask | LTSimmons
[06:01] <vozniak> hehe not, but i want
[06:01] <joe_chat> Is there a way to change the font color on the clock that appears in the gnome panel
[06:01] <ace_suares> vozniak: just kiddin'.. I am Steve :-)
[06:01] <Xavura> Another one for you.
[06:01] <Xavura> I just did apt-get install smartmontools then I did sudo hddtemp /dev/sda and it says hddtemp command not found
[06:02] <tech0007> Xavura: you need to enter the fullpath for that command
[06:02] <ace_suares> Xavura: are you sure hddtemp is part of smartmontool ? dpkg-query ehhh.
[06:02] <vozniak> someone see 8.6 ati drivers corruption?
[06:02] <ace_suares> Xavura: -L. dpkg-query -L smartmontools
[06:02] <Lucifer666> Amarok is awesome
[06:02] <Xavura> I don't know, someone told me it was ace_suares
[06:03] <tech0007> !info hddtemp | Xavura
[06:03] <rainwalker> Lucifer666: it really is
[06:03] <LTSimmons> Okay, my bad.  Do these have to be Ubuntu specific questions?  My question had more to do with IRC
[06:03] <ace_suares> tech0007: another kudo to you !
[06:03] <Xavura> So I need to install hddtemp, is it seperate?
[06:03] <Xavura> Like sudo apt-get install hddtemp or
[06:03] <alex_mayorga> Lucifer666: does amarok support MTP players such as Creative Zen ?
[06:03] <rainwalker> LTSimmons: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu
[06:03] <ace_suares> !ot | LTSimmons
[06:03] <muva> hi can any help me how to setup panel properties
[06:04] <ace_suares> Xavura: yes
[06:04] <Lucifer666> I could never get a creative zen working with it
[06:04] <rainwalker> muva: what are you trying to do?
[06:04] <vozniak> someone else getting graphics corruption with wine and 8.6 ati drivers?
[06:04] <Lucifer666> So I got a better mp3 player
[06:04] <Lucifer666> lol
[06:04] <LTSimmons> ok, cool.  Where do I find a list of channels?
[06:04] <aata> ace_suares no luck whatsoever
[06:04] <NetEcho> tech0007 I do the gconf-editor thing but Nautilus doesn't recognize it
[06:04] <Soulwarp> LTSimmons: type /list
[06:04] <ace_suares> LTSimmons: the channels is mentioned in ubottu's answer, isn't it ?
[06:05] <muva> actually i had remove the panel where the windows will be minimised how to enable it
[06:05] <ace_suares> aata: in none of the three solutions ?
[06:05] <ace_suares> LTSimmons: yeah /list is fun.
[06:05] <vozniak> someone else getting graphics corruption with wine and 8.6 ati drivers?
[06:05] <ace_suares> LTSimmons: not!
[06:05] <LTSimmons> alright, thanks
[06:05] <aata> ace_suares so far i replaceed the relevant sections of xorg.cong
[06:05] <ace_suares> vozniak: I have nvidia, sorry.
[06:05] <aata> cong
[06:05] <aata> conf
[06:05] <alex_mayorga> Lucifer666: sadly I can't afford a new one just yet :(
[06:05] <nickrud> muva you removed the entire bottom panel?
[06:05] <aata> ace_suares though i do have 197 updates
[06:06] <muva> yes
[06:06] <aata> :P
[06:06] <vozniak> ace_suares trade with me ;/
[06:06] <rainwalker> muva: right-click on the top panel, click new panel
[06:06] <ace_suares> aata: do the updates first :)
[06:06] <Xavura> How do I find out what my HDDs are called, I want to check the hddtemp for both
[06:06] <Lucifer666> I'll see if I can find something alex
[06:06] <muva> i actually want to remove some things but unfortuneately it has been removed
[06:06] <ace_suares> vozniak: no way. I am very happy with them. (two dualhead G70's). I have 3 screens and compiz and cairo-dock !
[06:06] <nickrud> muva right click the top one, say new panel. Then right click the bottom panel, and add to panel => window list
[06:06] <alex_mayorga> Lucifer666: thanks
[06:06] <aata> ace_suares its 200mb! its gonna take me ages at 256k
[06:06] <Lucifer666> have you ever tried Gnomad
[06:07] <aata> 2 hours at least
[06:07] <rainwalker> muva: then right-click on that new panel and add the stuff to it
[06:07] <ace_suares> aata: start it and go to sleep :-) and maybe read http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror
[06:07] <vozniak> ace_suares: i dont like much dock's
[06:07] <nickrud> !ot | Lucifer666 (better asked on #offtopic)
[06:07] <Lucifer666> or kzenexplorer
[06:07] <elvis> Im having a problem burning dvds... The burn stops halfway through no matter what program i use to burn
[06:07] <muva> ok i will just try for that thanks
[06:07] <elvis> on 8.04
[06:08] <tech0007> Xavura: look at 'mount' or 'df -h'
[06:08] <ace_suares> !hi |nicrud
[06:08] <nickrud> hi back ace_suares ;)
[06:08]  * ace_suares tought nickrud was asleep :-)
[06:08] <swansk> I can't access OTHER computers, because of KOREAN, but my co-worker CAN USE MY SHARED printer.  YEAH!!!!!!  I don't have to install Windows again.
[06:08] <nickrud> ace_suares nah, got about an hour to kill, talking to crazies is a fine unwinder
[06:08] <elvis> is there anyone that can help me
[06:08] <aata> ace_suares this still really irritating though i have to look to my shiny new 17" monitor for 3/4 of the screen and my screwed up, broken lcd for the other 25%
[06:09] <aata> my eyes hurt
[06:09]  * ace_suares slaps nickrud with a (crazy) trout !
[06:09] <spoon_man> vozniak, what are you trying to run in wine?
[06:09] <vozniak> spoon_man: Warcraft III Frozen
[06:09] <muva> what is the name of the name of that app where tabs are minimised
[06:10] <ace_suares> aata: hmmm so you have 75% on one screen and 25% on the other ? sounds like a resolutuin problem.
[06:10] <nickrud> muva window list
[06:10] <alex_mayorga> Lucifer666: I was about to install gnomad2
[06:10] <elvis> Does anyone know where i can go to get help with my dvd burning problem
[06:10]  * swansk is away
[06:11] <adante> hi folks
[06:11] <ace_suares> aata: http://www.seismo.ethz.ch/linux/xinerama.html
[06:11] <Xavura> "As of Ubuntu 6.04 (Dapper Drake) there is slightly more NTFS writing support through a very experimental NTFS FUSE module. Using this seems to work but is NOT recommended. Do you want to use this?"
[06:11] <muva> i dont see that applet in add to panel list
[06:11] <ace_suares> !away | swansk
[06:11] <Lucifer666> what is your problem elvis
[06:11] <Xavura> I don't know whether to answer yes or no.
[06:11] <nickrud> muva at the very bottom
[06:11] <alex_mayorga> Lucifer666: I actually installed mtpfs but the device is still not detected, I don't know if I need to reboot for it to pick up
[06:11] <nickrud> !away > swansk
[06:11] <Xavura> If I say no, can I still write to the NTFS drive?
[06:11] <elvis> I try to burn dvds on 8.04 and no matter what it burns and stops halfway through
[06:11] <ace_suares> !ntfs > Xavura
[06:11] <Lucifer666> try kzenexplorer or gnomad2
[06:11] <ace_suares> Xavura: no.
[06:12] <elvis> says there is an I/0 error i believe
[06:12] <Xavura> ace2001ac: I'm following the bloody tutorial
[06:12] <muva> thanks pal\
[06:12] <nickrud> Xavura what version of ubuntu are you  instaling?
[06:12] <Lucifer666> You can always remove them if they don't work
[06:12] <ace_suares> elvis: bad drive ? works under other os ?
[06:12] <Xavura> I downloaded the script and it's asking me things I'm not sure on
[06:12] <muva> it has been done
[06:12] <adante> howdy guys - how can i install wpasupplicant offline? the computer i want to install it on doesn't have net but i do have access to internet on another and can transfer a dpkg via memory stick - i had a look in archive.ubuntu.com but i don't know how to navigate it
[06:12] <Xavura> I am not installing any version of Ubuntu, I am using Ubuntu
[06:12] <nickrud> Xavura what script!?
[06:12] <elvis> I just pulled it from a windows box and it worked there
[06:12] <Lucifer666> what are you using to burn the dvds
[06:12] <Xavura> http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter
[06:12] <nickrud> Xavura please don't say automatix
[06:12] <elvis> Any application K3b and the other one that is default
[06:12]  * RAdam1 prepares to cry
[06:12] <Xavura> That script
[06:12] <ace_suares> adante: try google 'ubuntu package packagename'
[06:13] <RAdam1> what script is "that script"
[06:13] <nickrud> Xavura ah, what version of ubuntu? from 7.04 on, ntfs write support is well supported
[06:13] <Lucifer666> http://k9copy.sourceforge.net/
[06:13] <Xavura>  http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter
[06:13] <Lucifer666> that's what I use for burning dvds
[06:13] <Xavura> I'm using 8.04 Hardy
[06:13] <Lucifer666> works great
[06:13] <elvis> I think it might be a larger issue than that though since same thing happened on 2 different programs
[06:13] <nickrud> Xavura then you should say yes.
[06:13] <adante> ace_suares: ah nice, thanks
[06:14] <Lucifer666> Make sure you have all the prerequisites
[06:14]  * ace_suares is dazed and confused after trying to follow hundreds of lines of cross-conversation... sleepy time!
[06:14] <ace_suares> adante: np hope it helps.
[06:14] <ace_suares> adante: check the dependencies !!!!!
[06:15] <Xavura> I've got a feeling it didn't work.
[06:15] <Xavura> If I go to places, I see "82.3 BG Media", that's my Windows HDD right?
[06:15] <Lucifer666> Does anyone know where I can get a program that can materialize mountain dew ?
[06:15] <Xavura> GB*
[06:15] <nickrud> Xavura may be.
[06:15] <vozniak> someone else getting graphics corruption with wine and 8.6 ati drivers?
[06:16] <ariqs> browse it and see, xavura ;)
[06:16] <RAdams> Lucifer666: metaphysics.py, invoke "import mountaindew"
[06:16] <Xavura> If I click on it I get "Cannot Mount Volume - The volume uses the  file system which is not supported by your system."
[06:16] <MulticastUbuntu> hi all ,, what is the command which lists my hardware?
[06:17] <vozniak> MulticastUbuntu: lspci lsusb
[06:17] <MulticastUbuntu> vozniak: thnx
[06:17] <unavailable> lucifer666  sudo apt-get install pee
[06:17] <Lucifer666> RAdams is that some kind of joke
[06:17] <tech0007> MulticastUbuntu: lshw
[06:17] <Xavura> I thought the script I downloaded and ran was supposed to mount it?
[06:17] <nano_> what happens to the source file if a cut-n-paste operation fails?
[06:17] <unavailable> rofl
[06:18] <RAdams> Lucifer666: didn't you know python can do anything? http://xkcd.com/353/
[06:18] <unavailable> nano_ depends on what was cut
[06:18] <Lucifer666> E: Couldn't find package pee
[06:18] <nano_> unavailable, please elaborat?
[06:18] <MulticastUbuntu> i need to configure  Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01) :S does anyone know something about it ?
[06:18] <nano_> unavailable, what do you mean "depends on what was cut'
[06:18] <Xavura> If this has erased my Windows HDD I'm going to be so pissed
[06:19] <nickrud> Lucifer666 humor is more appropriate in -offtopic (sad in a way, but that's why it's there)
[06:19] <Xavura> I go to /media/ and it's empty.
[06:19] <Lucifer666> Don't mess with python
[06:19] <StephenZ> Unavailable: How does one format a disk through Ubuntu? I'm fairly certain it's a simple command... Just don't know what it is.
[06:19] <vozniak> MulticastUbuntu: dont see nothing about, try forum and google ;/
[06:19] <tech0007> !info mythtv
[06:19] <nickrud> Xavura I know the guy that wrote the script and just looked at it again, it doesn't format anything
[06:19] <Xavura> Well /media/ is empty.
[06:19] <MulticastUbuntu> vozniak: yep i m doing right now :)
[06:19] <RAdams> !mythbuntu > tech0007
[06:20] <nickrud> Xavura put a copy of /etc/fstab on paste.ubuntu.com
[06:20] <Xavura> Ok
[06:20] <RAdams> StephenZ: there's a couple of ways to format a disk. fdisk is probably the tool you need, depending on what you're doing. try man fdisk
[06:20] <unavailable> nano_ aah you mean cut and paste the whole file... i thought you meant text inside
[06:21] <Xavura> nickrud: Is it ok to paste it here?
[06:21] <StephenZ> Radams: "man fdisk" in the console?
[06:21] <Xavura> Or should I pm it, I don't know what it contains
[06:21] <vozniak> StephenZ: the easer way probably is gparted
[06:21] <RAdams> !pastebin | xavura
[06:21] <ace_suares> Xavura: is it an ntfs ? Sometimes when you dont close XP down good, it's 'dirty' and you need to restart Win to 'repair'
[06:21] <nano_> unavailable, yes i mean the whole file
[06:21] <nickrud> Xavura no, put it on paste.ubuntu.com
[06:21] <BoneE> why cant i get my aterm to transparent
[06:21] <Xavura> I have.
[06:21] <nickrud> Xavura ah, then give me the link here, so I can look at it ;)
[06:21] <Xavura> But it doesn't contain anything that I don't want people seeing, right?
[06:21] <StephenZ> Vozniak: I can get that in the Add menu?
[06:21] <Xavura> Ah ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/22783/
[06:21] <nickrud> Xavura nah, it's ok
[06:22] <vozniak> StephenZ: sudo apt-get install gparted
[06:22] <tech0007> RAdams: fdisk is for disk partitioning...mkfs is for formating
[06:22] <RAdams> stephenz: gparted is probably easier, vozniak is right. fyi, "man" and then a command in console gives you the manual page
[06:22] <ace_suares> StephenZ: fdisk is NOT for fomatting. It's for partitioning. You need mke2fs !
[06:22] <london> 大家好，我 该如何设置 ，才可以令其默认是thunderbird接收邮件
[06:22] <akafrank> 8-)
[06:22] <nano_> so does anybody know what happens to a source file in a failed cut-n-paste operation?
[06:22] <nickrud> Xavura run   sudo mount -a , then look again
[06:22] <nickrud> !cn | london
[06:22] <StephenZ> Vozniak and RAdams: Thanks. Nabbing that, now.
[06:22] <tech0007> ubutto is sleeping
[06:22] <nickrud> bummer
[06:23] <Xavura> nickrud: mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-fuse'
[06:23] <ace_suares> Xavura: on hardy, ntfs should run natively.
[06:23] <Xavura> Isn't that the experimental thingy, fuse something or other
[06:23] <nickrud> Xavura then that script is outdated, do   gksudo gedit /etc/fstab , and change ntfs-fuse to ntfs-3g
[06:24] <ace_suares> nano_: huh ? what do you mean by that ?
[06:24] <vozniak> anybody can say if ubuto repos openJdK is full compatible with sun-jdk?
[06:24] <vozniak> "ubuntu"
[06:24] <nickrud> Xavura where did you find the link to that script?
[06:24] <nickrud> vozniak do a search for it on google, it just passed the sun stress test
[06:24] <Xavura> nickrud: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:25] <nickrud> Xavura thanks, that needs updating
[06:25] <nano_> ace_suares, say i say cut-n-paste a file, and the target drive runs out of space....and the cut-n-paste operation has to be aborted....what will happen to the source file, will parts of it be deleted, all of it?
[06:25] <Xavura> nickrud: np
[06:25] <ace_suares> vozniak: http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/19/1754255
[06:25] <Lucifer666> I need new music
[06:25] <vozniak> nickrud: my question is about ubuntu version of openjdk
[06:25] <ace_suares> nano_: as long as you dint' save the original file, just press CTRL-Z !
[06:25] <akafrank> does anyone know how to access my clipboard?
[06:25] <nickrud> vozniak compare the version in ubuntu to the one that was tested, I guess
[06:26] <vozniak> nickrud: doing
[06:26] <nickrud> vozniak I'm using the sun one, so I'm not sure about it
[06:26] <ace_suares> nano_: oh.. i get you now. The original file will PROBABLY not be deleted before the other file is SUCCESFULLY written. That's unix for you!
[06:26] <osmosis> is a daemon required when using speedstep ?
[06:26] <vozniak> nickrud: a guess openjdk not stable yet
[06:26] <nickrud> Xavura success?
[06:27] <nano_> ace_suares, wow, thats neat...aer you 100% sure?
[06:27] <london> 大家好，我 该如何设置 ，才可以令其默认是thunderbird接收邮件，ubuntu8.04
[06:27] <Xavura> nickrud: /media/ is still empty and clicking on "82.3 GB Media" in "Places" gives me "Unpriveleged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE library. Either mount the volume as root or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated FUSE support and make it setuid root.
[06:27] <ace_suares> akafrank: I can access your clipbiard just fine ! (just kidding)
[06:27] <ace_suares> !cn | london
[06:27] <nano_> ace_suares, like bits and pieces of the source aren't being deleted as they are copied to source, are they?
[06:27] <akafrank> :-*
[06:27] <saint-takesh1> okay, found the program i need, but i'm having trouble compiling it (i'm not good at this bit, due to huge, annoying gaps in my coding knowledge)
[06:27] <vozniak> london:  your charset is not compatible ;/
[06:28] <ace_suares> london: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[06:28]  * ace_suares playing ubottu
[06:28] <akafrank> u guyz have a blast...too geeky 4 me!
[06:28] <ace_suares> nano_: that would neve rhappen on a *nix system
[06:28] <Myrtti> !test
[06:28] <tech0007> Myrtti: beep beep
[06:28] <nano_> ace_suares, that is good to know......
[06:28] <london> Thank you
[06:29] <godgryphon> Hey, is there a really simple way to set up an online file server? Most guides just say how to set one up in the home :-S.
[06:29] <ace_suares> nano_: yes it is :-)
[06:29] <nickrud> oh, ace_suares that was one crazy smart thing to do
[06:29] <nickrud> !test
[06:29] <vozniak> godgryphon: fileserver is FTP or SAMBA server?
[06:29] <ace_suares> !proftpd | godgryphon
[06:29] <nano_> ace_suares, i was cut-n-pasting a 4.1 gig *.iso file, and after 4.0 gigs were moved, i got an error saying that the source file is too large.  I have ample space on both the source and destination drive.  Is the file too large to be cut-n-pasted???
[06:30] <Lucifer666> Anyone seen the new hulk movie
[06:30] <godgryphon> I don't know how to make a samba server go online.
[06:30] <saint-takesh1> i'm trying to compile and install a program called aseqjoy
[06:30] <ace_suares> nickrud: d*mn... doing it again :-). Come to trust on ubottu havent' we !?
[06:30] <tech0007> !offtopic | Lucifer666
[06:30] <Lucifer666> so lol
[06:30] <godgryphon> Most guides I find just say how to set it up in the home.
[06:30] <nickrud> Lucifer666 last warning about offtopic stuff
[06:30] <StephenZ> Vozniak: In GParted, will I need to unmount the NTFS disk that I need to format, before being able to format it? I may be missng something.
[06:30] <skillet_> nano_, you are prob copying to a drive that is formatted with the fat32 filesystem
[06:30] <saint-takesh1> but ./configure fails saying it can't find libasound
[06:30] <ubott2> Failed!
[06:30] <rainwalker> Lucifer666: offtopic is for #ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu
[06:30] <ace_suares> nano_: i think a *nix system would say so BEFORE trying to execute.
[06:30] <ubott2> Factoid proftpd not found
[06:30] <skillet_> nano_, file size limit is 4 gig
[06:30] <ubott2> Lucifer666: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:30] <nano_> skillet_, yes that is exactly what im doing
[06:30] <Killeroid> StephenZ: yes, you need to unmount before you can format
[06:31] <Xavura> nickrud: Did I break something? :S
[06:31] <StephenZ> Thanks, Killeroid.
[06:31] <aata> ace_suares running the update 1.26 hours remaining
[06:31] <vozniak> StephenZ: yeap you need umount,
[06:31] <nickrud> Xavura you shouldn't have, why?
[06:31] <saint-takesh1> aptitude search libasound replies that i have "libasound2"
[06:31] <StephenZ> When I format it, what should I be formatting it to?
[06:31] <StephenZ> ext3?
[06:31] <nano_> skillet_, fat32 screws me again ... :(
[06:31] <ace_suares> StephenZ: Man ! Gparted is NOT for fomatting!  Why?
[06:31] <Xavura> nickrud: Did you see the errors I posted?
[06:32] <StephenZ> Ace_Suares: Accorting to the program itself, that's exactly what it's for.
[06:32] <aata> and why would i make an apt mirror if i dont have superfast broadband!!!
[06:32] <ce_NiEeZz_fs> hi.....
[06:32] <ace_suares> aata: go shoppng or sleep ;-)
[06:32] <StephenZ> according*
[06:32] <vozniak> ace_suares: gparted is for format and part
[06:32] <nano_> the funny thing is that i only have fat32 so that if i need to have this drive accessed by windows, i ll have compatability...other than that i could be careless about fat32
[06:32] <nickrud> Xavura no, I was distracted and it scrolled off my screen. A sec
[06:32] <aata> ace_suares yup gonna go buy some books
[06:32] <Method2oo7> can some one help me install the latest java plz
[06:32] <Xavura> I'll paste it, if you want.
[06:33] <RAdams> ace_suares: gparted IS for formatting. fdisk is NOT. some person who was tired and half-paying attention (cough me cough) told him fdisk. gparted is fine
[06:33] <Xavura> nickrud: /media/ is still empty and clicking on "82.3 GB Media" in "Places" gives me "Unpriveleged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE library. Either mount the volume as root or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated FUSE support and make it setuid root."
[06:33] <vozniak> Method2oo7: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-plugin
[06:33] <__ryan__> gparted can be used to format..
[06:33] <__ryan__> but why would you
[06:33] <RAdams> __ryan__: gui
[06:33] <saint-takesh1> could the 2 in the name of the library be causing this, or could it be an amd64 issue?
[06:33] <spoon_man> nano_, there's an app you can use to access ext3 from an NTFS-based OS, if you want to make the switch sometime
[06:33]  * nano_ eat
[06:33] <ace_suares> RAdams: StephenZ: okay, i didn;t know that, format away then :-)
[06:33] <Killeroid> ace_suares: when did gparted stopped being one of the ebst apps used to format disks?
[06:33] <__ryan__> it's way easier to type mkfs.* /dev/blah
[06:33] <StephenZ> So, being as I intend to use this harddrive as a secondary file drive, and from which to run programs that take up a large amount of disk space (and thus, do not belong on my primary drive), which format should I format as?
[06:33] <__ryan__> :P
[06:33] <nickrud> Xavura http://paste.ubuntu.com/22784/ last line, make the edit in your fstab so it looks the same  (ntfs-fuse replaced with ntfs-3g)
[06:33] <spoon_man> or was it ext2...
[06:34] <vozniak> gparted is the easier choice to format something
[06:34] <Killeroid> StephenZ: ext3
[06:34] <RAdams> __ryan__: easy for someone who is comfortable using terminal. for those who can grok a gui better, gparted is a good choice.
[06:34] <ace_suares> saint-takesh1: i think you need a -dev.
[06:34] <nano_> spoon_man, thnx
[06:34] <__ryan__> RAdams, i suppose so yeah
[06:34] <Sock> Anyone here coding in ruby ? I want to switch from c/c++/c# ... but these tutorials are moronic :(
[06:34] <Xavura> nickrud: If I mess up the editing, will it break anything?
[06:34] <StephenZ> Killeroid: Thanks.
[06:34] <ace_suares> saint-takesh1: sudo apt-get install libasound2-dev
[06:34] <RAdams> Sock: #ruby
[06:35] <spoon_man> nano_ http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[06:35] <nano_> Is there a maximum file size limit in ext3?
[06:35] <Sock> RAdams ok tnx
[06:35] <vozniak> someone have ati and last drivers?
[06:35] <saint-takesh1> ace_suares: thanks, i'll try that just now
[06:35] <Killeroid> StephenZ: if you wanna use access that drive from windows then fat is better but if you are accessing the drive from a unix installation only then ext3
[06:35] <nickrud> Xavura nothing that can't be fixed easily. This is only affecting your windows partition, everything else is just fine. Only edit the last line
[06:35] <StephenZ> Killeroid: Yeah, I'm going full-Ubuntu.
[06:36] <StephenZ> Holy cow.
[06:36] <ace_suares> Sock: ruby is offtopic, pleas got to #ror or #ruby, and yeas, I am coding a bit in ruby-on-rails.
[06:36] <StephenZ> I think it's actually done.
[06:36] <StephenZ> Can it really format that fast?
[06:36] <Killeroid> nano_: yeah, there is a maximum file limut but if i remember correctly its 8TB
[06:36] <Killeroid> *and
[06:36] <RAdams> nano_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems (16GB to 2TB, depending, read the ext3 article)
[06:36] <RAdams> StephenZ: yes, it can
[06:36] <ce_NiEeZz_fs> hi
[06:36] <london> how to check if installed wireless network card?
[06:37] <StephenZ> Wowee.
[06:37] <warcaptain> so i just installed ubuntu hardy and its performing very poorly
[06:37] <warcaptain> displayconfig-gtk says im using vesa graphics? and a plug and play monitor?
[06:37] <vaportrail123new> yay! finnaly!
[06:37] <nano_> Killeroid, RAdams : that is intense......the other day, i thought i heard talk about ext4, i don't know what ext3 is missing, therefore, why bother with ext4
[06:37] <vaportrail123new> ubuntu ver 8.04!
[06:37] <warcaptain> i have 4gb of memory (3.2 allocated)
[06:37] <Xavura> nickrud: My line matches exactly, it was already like that.
[06:37] <nickrud> london   lspci   shows all your pci cards,  lsusb  your usb cards
[06:37] <spoon_man> warcaptain, you may have to enable hardware acceleration -- ATI or nVidia?
[06:37] <StephenZ> Right, so who would be willing to help me figure out how to install something? -Probably- shouldn't take long at all - I'm just horrifically inexperienced.
[06:38] <warcaptain> im using embedded Intel GMA 3100
[06:38] <Killeroid> nano_: trust me, ext3 hs a lot of failings, i really cant wait for ext4
[06:38] <vaportrail123new> thanks to all you ppls who helped me get this installed ^^
[06:38] <vozniak> london: you yant check manufaturer name or driver instalation stats?
[06:38] <warcaptain> it worked rather well on Gutsy and exceptionally well on Vista
[06:38] <RAdams> !synaptic | StephenZ
[06:38] <ubott2> StephenZ: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:38]  * ace_suares is leaving da house ! Good nicht everyone! Kudo's to nickrud, tech007, and the others. Sorry that I didn't know that gparted could do 'mke2fs -j -m0 /dev/sda4' :-)
[06:38] <nickrud> Xavura   did you do sudo mount -a ?
[06:38] <RAdams> ace_suares is forgiven
[06:38] <Xavura> Yes.
[06:39] <london> i want to use wirdless
[06:39] <nano_> Killeroid, what failings...please mention a couple
[06:39] <ch00k> hola
[06:39] <warcaptain> anyone?
[06:39] <saint-takesh1> ace_suares: thanks :) that worked. i feel foolish for not figuring that out....in my first-switched-to-linux days i always installed the -dev packages for everything, just in case.
[06:39] <vozniak> ace_suares: GN
[06:39] <spoon_man> warcaptain, you may have to enable hardware acceleration -- ATI or nVidia?
[06:39] <ch00k> alguien que hable español ??
[06:39] <amenado> is there an option on vncviewer to specify which user it would use to log on if it is tunneled through a ssh?
[06:39] <spoon_man> nm
[06:39] <nickrud> Xavura that is extremely odd. That is the correct line.
[06:39] <unavailable> !test
[06:39] <ubott2> Failed!
[06:40] <unavailable> dang
[06:40] <rainwalker> where is ubotu?
[06:40] <RAdams> taking a nap
[06:40] <rainwalker> oh
[06:40] <RAdams> the factoids still work
[06:40] <warcaptain> spoon_man:  I just said I am using Intel embedded GMA 3100
[06:40] <Xavura> nickrud: :S
[06:40] <nickrud> Xavura ah, dang, I'm not using an ntfs disk here and forgot, the regular ntfs is the new way (I'm thinking halfway between that script and now). Change ntfs-3g to just ntfs . Sorry
[06:41] <Killeroid> nano_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Disadvantages
[06:41] <nano_> Killeroid, thnx
[06:41] <Xavura> nickrud: No problem, if it wasn't for you then I wouldn't even be this far...
[06:41] <RAdams> Killeroid: stop stealing my links out of my clipboard!
[06:41] <tech0007> warcaptain: run 'displayconfig-gtk'
[06:41] <Xavura> nickrud: Done. Anything else?
[06:41] <StephenZ> Killeroid: Now that I try creating a new folder in the drive I just formatted and mounted, it's saying access is denied.
[06:41] <london> i want to check drive
[06:41] <Killeroid> RAdams: blame google :)
[06:42] <nickrud> Xavura I just wiped this disk and reinstalled without windows, so I didn't have my usual trick (look at my system before opening mouth)
[06:42] <warcaptain> again, as i already said, it says im using no graphics card (generic vesa drivers) and a plug and play monitor
[06:42] <london> how to check wireless drive
[06:42] <Killeroid> StephenZ: you need to mount the drive
[06:42] <warcaptain> i try to select the right adapter and monitor and it says the configuration doesnt work
[06:42] <StephenZ> Killeroid: I did.
[06:42] <Sock> oh a question, anyone else here got ATI2900XT ? The linux drivers are crap, they run the card at to high clock, and it uses much power and cooler is totaly waking everyone in the building :(
[06:42] <nickrud> !wireless | london
[06:42] <ubott2> london: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:42] <Sock> how do i downclock on linux ?
[06:42] <StephenZ> Sock: Too high a clock? Lies and blasphemy - there is no such thing!
[06:43] <StephenZ> Well. Until the chip melts.
[06:43] <RAdams> Sock: what drivers are you using?
[06:43] <nickrud> Xavura try the   sudo mount -a  again
[06:43] <vozniak> london: you want check driver manufaturer or status of instalation?
[06:43]  * RAdams offers to show pictures of "too high a clock" to StephenZ
[06:43] <Killeroid> StephenZ: what did you format the drive as and where did you mount it afterwards?
[06:43] <Sock> the ATI drivers i got trough add/remove
[06:43] <StephenZ> Bring it, RAdams.
[06:43] <hyphenex> Hey gang, I know about Squid proxy for Linux, but what are the best solutions for a proxy server for windows?  With login control (best integrated with the Active Directory), site logging, and access control?  Thanks :)
[06:43] <nickrud> Sock you could try the latest 8.6, envy-gtk will help you install them
[06:43] <StephenZ> Killeroid: Formatted it as ext3, mounted it on the only mount point I was given: /media/TH4NG
[06:44] <StephenZ> TH4NG being the name of the drive.
[06:44]  * nickrud thought he would _never_ recommend envy
[06:44] <Sock> nickrud : do i have to recompile the kernel ?
[06:44] <Sock> i really don't want to do that :)
[06:44] <Xavura> nickrud: You are going to love me... http://paste.ubuntu.com/22786/
[06:44] <Killeroid> StephenZ: did it mount correctly? no errors? nice drive name btw, made my chuckle
[06:45] <osmosis> anyone know how to use cpu frequency scaling?
[06:45] <nickrud> Sock no, you'll compile a new module for the kernel, but it's automated now, and from what I'm told it does it automatically on a kernel upgrade
[06:45] <StephenZ> Killeroid: No error message popped up, no.
[06:45] <moosepants> hyphenex: Hit google up, although I recall that there are few good free ones about :(
[06:45] <tech0007> warcaptain: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:45] <nano_> is there anyway to "Undo" an update that was done via Update Manager
[06:45] <StephenZ> And thanks. It started out as TH1NG, following the Addam's Family theme I've been using for the past decade... But then I kept adding/switching HDDs.
[06:45] <nickrud> Xavura we see that all the time. I always recommend rebooting into windows and letting windows clean up after its own mess
[06:46] <Xavura> nickrud: So it should be working now?
[06:46] <Sock> Driver version 8.47
[06:46] <warcaptain> tech0007: ive done that before
[06:46] <warcaptain> it still says im using no video drivers & plug & play monitor
[06:46] <nickrud> Xavura yep, that message means that linux is knows how to mount it now, but is being careful
[06:46] <tech0007> warcaptain: did u try changing 'vesa' to 'intel' in xorg.conf
[06:47] <nickrud> nano_ not simply, no
[06:47] <Xavura> nickrud: /media/ is still empty and the drive in Places still gives a mount error.
[06:47] <nickrud> Xavura did you reboot into windows? Linux won't mount it until you get it marked as 'not in use', let windows do that
[06:47] <warcaptain> tech0007: i tried changing it to intel in displayconfig-gtk
[06:48] <warcaptain> it doesnt even let me do it
[06:48] <nano_> nickrud, basically, today i updated my compiz stuff, and ever since, im getting annoying brief horizontal lines - that are temporary - across my screen...?
[06:48] <sherl0ck> hey im recompile my kernel because of a patch, and got the linux-source-2.6.24 package, and when i recompile will it be comparable to the packaged 2.6.24-19! what makes the 19 part?
[06:48] <legend2440> Sock: in synaptic package to underclock ati is called rovclock
[06:48] <nickrud> nano_ haven't seen that here (but I also haven't updated)
[06:48] <RAdams> hot damn! the option NvAGP set to 1 in xorg.conf DOES fix suspend problems with nvidia-glx-new!
[06:48] <Xavura> nickrud: Do I have to do anything after booting into Windows
[06:48] <Method2oo7> i keep geting "unable to launch the application" when trying to install sun java 6u6
[06:48] <Killeroid> StephenZ: unmount and try mounting again "sudo mount /dev/hdxy /media/TH4NG"
[06:48] <tech0007> warcaptain: 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[06:49] <Sock> legend2440: if it works it will be a life saviour tnx. a a lot :)
[06:49] <RAdams> well i fixed something on a computer today, i can go to bed. night all. good luck xavura and stephenz
[06:49] <Method2oo7> can some one help
[06:49] <Killeroid> StephenZ: replace hdxy with correct disk
[06:49] <Xavura> RAdams: thanks
[06:49] <RAdams> !ask | Method2oo7
[06:49] <ubott2> Method2oo7: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:49] <nano_> Nicke, i didn't have any prob's before the update, now it seems like the update created these annoying lines.....do you typically update yourself at first opportunity?
[06:49] <nickrud> Xavura nope. Just boot into it, if it's an external safely remove it, then shut down normally and boot back into linux. It should be mounted automatically on boot
[06:49] <Xavura> it's internal.
[06:49] <nickrud> Xavura the first it in that sentence is 'windows'
[06:49] <warcaptain> tech0007: why does it say 'Configured Monitor' for everything??
[06:49] <Xavura> Ok, thanks
[06:49] <warcaptain> well not monitor
[06:49] <warcaptain> but it says 'Configured' so and so for everything
[06:49] <StephenZ> Killeroid: In this case, TH4NG?
[06:50] <Method2oo7> i keep geting "unable to launch the application" when trying to install sun java 6u6 can some one help
[06:50] <StephenZ> Rather than HDxy.
[06:50] <StephenZ> Or you mean sdx?
[06:50] <tech0007> warcaptain: hardy has minimal use for xorg.conf, it usually detects the right card but it still can be set in xorg.conf
[06:50] <warcaptain> well it does a crappy job
[06:50] <warcaptain> that auto-detection is probably why it takes forever to start up
[06:50] <tech0007> warcaptain: lol
[06:50] <nano_> nickrud, what option in /etc/fstab will make a drive be mounted automatically  at boot?
[06:50] <Sock> legend2440: looks exacltly the thing i wanted 10x
[06:50] <warcaptain> i sit at the ubuntu loading screen for like 2 minutes
[06:51] <nickrud> Method2oo7 are you installing 6u6 from the ubuntu repositories?
[06:51] <schnoowork> hello what is a good program to make disk images
[06:51] <moosepants> schnoowork: dd
[06:51] <Method2oo7> no from the java site
[06:51] <warcaptain> tech0007: so im not sure what to put in for these values
[06:51] <london> where is lenovo e290m wireless drive
[06:51] <rainwalker> schnoowork: the make them or burn them?
[06:51] <nickrud> nano_ simply having it listed in fstab. you would add the option  noauto  to prevent automounting at boot
[06:51] <macrobad> schnoowork: partimage or ntfsclone
[06:52] <tech0007> warcaptain: back it up first 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak'
[06:52] <nickrud> Method2oo7 sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre  sun-java6-plugin  , that will install 6u6 for you
[06:52] <nano_> nickrud, thnx
[06:52] <Rav1> hey ppl. I need the symbols font, but can't find it with aptitude. Anyone know what it's called?
[06:52] <Werdna> hey, how can I prevent myself from needing to type modprobe ndiswrapper every time I boot up?
[06:52] <warcaptain> tech0007: it shouldnt be too hard to restore a backup of this.. everything is default
[06:52] <warcaptain> how dumb
[06:52] <Killeroid> StephenZ:  "sudo fdisk -l"  and find the drvie you wanna mount, use its device name
[06:52] <nickrud> Method2oo7 as a general rule just about anything you would install from a website in windows is installed from the package repository in ubuntu
[06:53] <warcaptain> tech0007: right anyways, its backed up
[06:53] <Seven_Six_Two> I have 8.04 installed, and everything is ok, but the screen resolution for the gdm login is so big, I can't get to the options button that lets me choose my dm.
[06:53] <tech0007> warcaptain: 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'...look for Section "Device"
[06:53] <vozniak> someone have ati and last drivers?
[06:54] <StephenZ> Killeroid: Tried it, didn't work.
[06:54] <Killeroid> StephenZ: what didnt work?
[06:54] <StephenZ> Well, I unmounted it, then remounted it with the command you gave me, then tried creating the folder agani. Same error. No permission.
[06:55] <macrobad> Werdna: try putting your modules in /etc/modules ;)
[06:55] <nickrud> Rav1 I think you would want ttf-opensymbol
[06:55] <warcaptain> tech0007: right, im just not sure what to type in
[06:55] <NetEcho> is there a GPG frontend for Ubuntu where you can Manage and create GPG keys for encrypting folders?
[06:55] <Killeroid> StephenZ: oh, did you first create the folder that you are mounting to (sudo mkdir /media/TH4NG) before mounting?
[06:56] <macrobad> NetEcho: seahorse?
[06:56] <StephenZ> Well, it was mounted there before as NTFS.
[06:56] <tech0007> warcaptain: add        Driver     "intel"            in "Device" section
[06:56] <Seven_Six_Two> do I have to use the gconfigurator to choose the gdm screen resolution?
[06:56] <NetEcho> macrobad does it create a menu item somewhere?
[06:56] <StephenZ> And trying the command brings up "File Exists," so.. Yeah.
[06:57] <NetEcho> macrobad nm found it
[06:57] <schnoowork> ahh brasero can do disk dumps so thats ok :)
[06:57] <Method2oo7> i play runescape and i have to use "unsigned applet using default java" but i want to use "signed applet using default java" can some one help
[06:58] <Killeroid> StephenZ: wait,  i thoguht you said you coudn't mount the disk
[06:58] <rainwalker> schnoowork: brasero isn't good for burning live cds
[06:58] <Killeroid> *thought
[06:58] <macrobad> NetEcho: if gnome-keyring is not good enough... As for the seahorse, yep it does. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/seahorse/
[06:58] <Rav1> nickrud: thanx, but it seems in my opensymbol that this is ordinary letters...
[06:58] <StephenZ> No, I could mount the disk, fine. It was last night I couldn't mount it.
[06:58] <StephenZ> Someone helped me with that.
[06:59] <StephenZ> It mounts fine... Mounted up as NTFS, then unmounted it, formatted it as EXT3, mounted it back, and tried to make a new folder.
[06:59] <StephenZ> The problem arises there.
[06:59] <StephenZ> I lack permission to make that folder, for some reason.
[07:00] <Killeroid> StephenZ: what command did you use to mount the disk?
[07:00] <nickrud> Rav1 there are symbols in there, but unicode. Not sure what you're looking for then
[07:00] <warcaptain> how do i change my monitor to Samsung Syncmaster 2253BW
[07:00] <NetEcho> macrobad does it always take a while to generate a key?
[07:00] <StephenZ> First time, I did it with Gparted.
[07:00] <macrobad> StephenZ: You may create a folder as a root, and then change its ownership so that you could write anything there
[07:00] <Method2oo7> how can i backup the movie Jumper can some one help
[07:01] <rainwalker> Method2oo7: what do you mean by "backup"?
[07:01] <profxavier> ok, big picture: I want to be able to reboot my system, and still have remote axx without logging into the system.  long story: I have my password set in 'Remote Desktop Prefences', which I am guessing is vncserver, now how do I set this to all vncserver to run, even at the login screen ?
[07:01] <nickrud> StephenZ you need to change the permissions of the folder it's mounted to, after it's mounted. What kinds of permissions do you want? Owned by you, or writeable by others?
[07:01] <macrobad> NetEcho: yes, it depends on the key algorithm, and its length. Generally, the program is waiting for random input (from a billion of different places)
[07:01] <StephenZ> So long as I can write to it, I don't care.
[07:01] <Method2oo7> copy to my computer
[07:01] <StephenZ> I'm the only user of this computer.
[07:01] <nickrud> StephenZ   sudo chown <you>:<you> /path/to/mountpoint
[07:02] <spoon_man> warcaptain, you can usually ignore specific monitor settings unless you're experiencing issues
[07:02] <NetEcho> macrobad so does using the encrypt file/folder option act sorta like OS X's file vault?
[07:02] <Xavura> nickrud: It seems to be working now, thanks for all the help.
[07:02] <RAdams> is anyone successfully sharing files via samba while ufw is running? if so, can you tell me what applicable rules you had to set?
[07:02] <StephenZ> Nickrud: Last time I used "chown" it boned my whole OS.
[07:02] <nickrud> Xavura I don't think I'll forget that ntfs-3g is depreciated ;)
[07:02] <Xavura> Got a question though, when I go to "Places" it is listed, as I stated earlier, as 82.3 GB Media.
[07:03] <pccc> help! How do I resize partitions from Ubuntu Server 7.10? I can't resize while I'm using the OS, and there is no live cd to boot from..
[07:03] <nickrud> StephenZ yes, it's a powerful command. That's why the /path/to/mountpoint has to be right
[07:03] <Xavura> Can I not rename it, to say "Windows HDD" or whatever.
[07:03] <Xavura> If so, how.
[07:03] <warcaptain> tech0007: so now i save it and ctl+alt+bkspc?
[07:03] <StephenZ> In this case, /media/TH4NG, right?
[07:03] <tech0007> warcaptain: yup
[07:03] <spoon_man> xavura, my windows partition is similarly named (just a different GB number, natch)
[07:03] <spoon_man> and I can still boot into windows
[07:03] <Seven_Six_Two>
[07:04] <tech0007> brb
[07:04] <Xavura> spoon_man: How do I rename it, if I right click it I have no option to rename or anything
[07:04] <macrobad> NetEcho: Sorry, I've never used OS X. What seahorse does is key management and desktop integration, the rest is done by GnuPG: it encrypts the file with strong cryptography. So, you'd need to store your private keys in a safe place only.
[07:04] <keith> Are there any free programs that work in Linux for recording what is on your screen?
[07:04] <nickrud> Xavura yes, you can give it a label. Install ntfsprogs, unmount the drive (umount /path/to/drive) run  sudo ntfslabel /path/to/drive <label> , then run sudo mount -a
[07:04] <tech0007> !recordmydesktop | keith
[07:04] <ubott2> Factoid recordmydesktop not found
[07:04] <NetEcho> macrobad I'm trying to find a way to create a folder where I can drop files in there without problem but to retrieve the files it asks for a password
[07:05] <nickrud> Xavura that way it wil have the same name in windows and linux
[07:05] <tech0007> !info recordmydesktop
[07:05] <Xavura> Oooh, interesting
[07:05] <pccc> help! How do I resize partitions from Ubuntu Server 7.10? I can't resize while I'm using the OS, and there is no live cd to boot from..
[07:05] <ubott2> recordmydesktop (source: recordmydesktop): Captures audio-video data of a Linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.6-1 (hardy), package size 45 kB, installed size 136 kB
[07:05] <keith> tech0007: thanks
[07:05] <warcaptain> gah.. still with 'normal' desktop effects it has performance issues even though it says it uses intel graphics
[07:05] <schnoowork> is there a more gui based program to make an iso of a disc which isnt brasero
[07:06] <nickrud> Xavura notice that the unmount command is umount , not unmount
[07:06] <StephenZ> Nickrud: My username is "stephen", and the drive is mounted at /media/TH4NG. The EXACT command I should be using is "sudo chown stephen:stephen / media/TH4NG", right?
[07:06] <nickrud> StephenZ   sudo chown stephen:stephen /media/TH4ANG
[07:06] <RAdams> where does ufw log?
[07:06] <pccc> How can I run gparted while not using the filesystem?
[07:06] <RAdams> I mean, where does it send it's logs when logging is on
[07:07] <nickrud> StephenZ with TH4NG spelled correctly, of course
[07:07] <profxavier> ok, big picture: I want to be able to reboot my system, and still have remote axx without logging into the system.  long story: I have my password set in 'Remote Desktop Prefences', which I am guessing is vncserver, now how do I set this to all vncserver to run, even at the login screen ?
[07:07] <webcamwonder> pccc: Live CD
[07:07] <Xavura> nickrud: Ok, why? That seems silly to me
[07:07] <StephenZ> Nickrud: Right. I'm sending the command through... How will I know if I've hosed my whole drive's permissions?
[07:07] <Semidios> does anyone know how to get Evolution to stop putting events that start one day and end the next at the top of the work week and put them in calendar??
[07:07] <pccc> webcamwonder: no live cd for ubuntu server edition
[07:08] <pccc> webcamwonder: and when i use desktop live cd, it doesnt detect any devices
[07:08] <StephenZ> Nickrud: Well, it seems to work ,at the very least, for what I'd intended. *Chuckles.*
[07:08] <Xavura> nickrud: Path to drive is /media/sdb1 right?
[07:08] <nickrud> StephenZ when the machine starts to smoke (kidding!!). This is a very safe command to run. Note that there is no -R (for recursive changes) , and we've specified an exact folder
[07:08] <nickrud> Xavura yes
[07:08] <StephenZ> *Nods.* Thank you, Nickrud. I know enough to know that I know nothing. :)
[07:08] <webcamwonder> pccc: It doesn't detect your HDD?
[07:08] <nickrud> Xavura back in the day, commands couldn't be longer than 6 characters
[07:09] <nickrud> !permissions | StephenZ
[07:09] <ubott2> StephenZ: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[07:09] <pccc> webcamwonder: it scans for awhile, then says 'no devices detected', so i guess not
[07:09] <luojian> 你们好
[07:09] <luojian> 我遇到了一个难题
[07:09] <tech0007> !cn " luojian
[07:09] <ubott2> Factoid cn " luojian not found
[07:09] <spoon_man> !cn | luojian
[07:09] <ubott2> luojian: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[07:09] <nickrud> StephenZ you're at that wonderful stage when everything is new and fresh :)
[07:09] <tech0007> !cn
[07:09] <luojian> 关于桌面面板的问题
[07:09] <webcamwonder> pccc: Bummer, that is the only way to resize "active" partitions
[07:09] <Xavura> nickrud: When I do the ntfslabel command
[07:09] <macrobad> NetEcho: I am not sure how to do it. You'd have to try out different options. As for the seahorse, it'd allow you to encrypt files seamlessly, but would not create such a folder you've told about.
[07:09] <tech0007> pccc: what is ur HDD?
[07:09] <Xavura> it tells me the usage, so I think I'm doing it wrong
[07:10] <Mo0oSaH> What is a good photo manager? and/or if anything comes close to lightroom?
[07:10] <Xavura> xavura@Ubuntu:~$ sudo ntfslabel /dev/sdb1 Windows HDD
[07:10] <Xavura> Usage: ntfslabel [options] device [label]
[07:10] <NetEcho> macrobad k
[07:10] <Xavura> Should I be typing /media/sdb1
[07:10] <nickrud> Xavura as soon as you've unmounted the drive. then run ntfs /dev/sdb1 <label> , that's the path to the device, sorry
[07:10] <pccc> tech0007: wd740
[07:11] <luojian> 我在面板中删除了EVA聊天程序的小人图标，之后再也恢复不回来了，造成了EVA不能正常使用。请问怎么恢复回来呢？
[07:11] <zahra> grgrdg
[07:11] <Xavura> so umount /media/sdb1 which I have done
[07:11] <Myrtti> !english | luojian
[07:11] <ubott2> luojian: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[07:11] <pccc> tech0007: western digital wd740 raptor
[07:11] <nickrud> Xavura we'd been talking about mount , that's why I said yes
[07:11] <spoon_man> Mo0oSaH, have you tried Picasa? http://picasa.google.com/linux/
[07:11] <Xavura> nickrud: bash: ntfs: command not found
[07:12] <Sock> Why is the Blender distributioin one version behind ?
[07:12] <nickrud> Xavura ntfslabel , one word (like the usage)
[07:12] <pccc> tech0007: but gparted detects correctly when i'm running ubuntu server from disk
[07:12] <luojian> oh my english is very poor
[07:12] <webcamwonder> Mo0oSaH: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=519487
[07:12] <nickrud> luojian chinese in channels given to you above
[07:12] <Mo0oSaH> spoon_man, webcamwonder, thanks guys will check them both out
[07:12] <Xavura> xavura@Joe-Ubuntu:~$ sudo ntfslabel /dev/sdb1 Windows HDD
[07:12] <Xavura> Usage: ntfslabel [options] device [label]
[07:13] <nickrud> Xavura ah, you really don't want to use spaces in the label
[07:13] <Xavura> Darn.
[07:13] <Xavura> What about –
[07:13] <Xavura> sorry what am I thinking lol
[07:13] <nickrud> I'd suggest a name like pervdrive , etc
[07:13] <Xavura> -
[07:13] <Xavura> Can I use a -
[07:13] <tech0007> pccc: check it out http://www.sysresccd.org/
[07:14] <nickrud> Xavura not sure what ntfs supports as labels.
[07:14] <Xavura> Ok, I'll stick to a-z
[07:14] <pccc> tech0007: ok
[07:14] <Sock> how is it that official ATI linux drivers take 50mb, and ubuntu add/remove only ~10 ?
[07:15] <fredmv> I have a somewhat weird problem.     Basically, on one of my laptops, I'm running gutsy/7.10.    I went to upgrade to Hardy Heron, and it said I had 3rd party pkgs disabled. That's fine;  I went into synaptic and checked the relevent repos.    Did an apt-get update/apt-get upgrade.      Then I restarted.    I'm now in 'low-graphics' mode and the network appears not to work.      Any idea what caused this (and what the remedy is)?
[07:15] <Xavura> nickrud: Done, it's still showing as 82.3 GB Media though.
[07:15] <nickrud> Xavura hm. Works for Me™
[07:15] <Xavura> Should I Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[07:15] <nickrud> Xavura shouldn't matter. I did that to my external drive, worked fine
[07:15] <Xavura> Maybe it needs you to re-login or whatever, to take effect.
[07:16] <Xavura> Why does nothing ever work for me... lol
[07:16] <powertool08> how do I limit terminal output to a page at a time? (in a vt and can't scroll up)
[07:16] <nickrud> Sock 32bit and 64bit are in the ati installer, there's programming to write kernels, etc.
[07:17] <nickrud> Sock and code to write packages for debian, ubuntu, redhat, etc
[07:17] <macrobad> fredmv: First, make sure that your loopback interface is represented by two lines in /etc/network/interfaces, and one line is /etc/hosts. Then you might also want to run 'ip link show' and check if your loopback is UP.
[07:18] <nickrud> Xavura gotta call it a night, work tomorrow. Try creating the label in windows I guess
[07:18] <Xavura> Meh.
[07:18] <Xavura> Thanks for the help.
[07:18] <nickrud> Or ask around for help setting a label, someone else has probably done it more often than I
[07:18] <macrobad> fredmv: Yesterday, I damaged one of those definitions, and the whole desktop went awry... just like you've described.
[07:19] <pccc> tech0007: I will try the system rescue cd. it doesn't make sense to me why gparted running off disk would detect the hdd correctly but gparted running off live cd wouldn't. different versions maybe?
[07:19] <tech0007> pccc: could be.  hope it works
[07:20] <pccc> tech0007: tnx
[07:20] <fredmv> macrobad, thanks for the info.   I'm gonna look into it more tomorrow (2AM here).    Night all.
[07:20] <Xavura> Q) Why has Firefox locked up and gone grayscale?
[07:20] <Xavura> A) Because compiz hates you.
[07:21] <Mo0oSaH> lol
[07:21] <Mo0oSaH> my Synaptic always does that
[07:21] <marvin__> hi guys, do you guys know how to run a startup script after everything is loaded on the kde desktop?
[07:21] <Mo0oSaH> especially when it's searching
[07:22] <marvin__> is there a way to delay it until everything is loaded? (i'm using kde btw)
[07:23] <vozniakBR> marvin__:  to sleep a script use -> sleep <time>
[07:23] <marvin__> ahh k
[07:24] <Xavura> Ok, Firefox has crashed
[07:24] <marvin__> uh oh, what happened
[07:24] <HttpError> Any people with Access to the repos?
[07:24] <Xavura> I did ps aux|grep firefox but, which one is the process id
[07:24] <Xavura> so I can kill it
[07:24] <marvin__> or use killall
[07:24] <HttpError> i found an error in them.
[07:24] <Xavura> xavura@Joe-Ubuntu:~$ killall firefox
[07:24] <Xavura> firefox: no process killed
[07:24] <Xavura> Or not
[07:24] <NetEcho> is there any easy way to sync a folder off a Windows Share with a folder on Ubuntu?
[07:25] <marvin__> haha, Samba?
[07:25] <NetEcho> how?
[07:25] <HttpError> NetEcho: easiest to go the other way around
[07:25] <BoneE> where is the samba setting
[07:25] <NetEcho> hey HttpError
[07:25] <NetEcho> HttpError see other chan I'll explain the situation
[07:26] <spoon_man> !samba | BonE
[07:26] <ubott2> BonE: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[07:27] <Xavura> Ok, uber question.
[07:27] <Xavura> I installed Kubuntu from the installer disc thing, then decided to try Ubuntu, someone said oh just do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop so I did
[07:27] <BoneE> i cant write access to my linux box
[07:27] <Xavura> then I fell in love with Ubuntu and Kubuntu sucks, so can I like, remove Kubuntu and get me some more disc space?
[07:28] <Xavura> even though Ubuntu is kind of installed ON top of Kubuntu
[07:28] <NetEcho> spoon_man is there a more detailed tut for keeping network folders synced? I can share between my two machines just not sure how to keep em in sync for those 2 folders
[07:28] <rainwalker> Xavura: bwahaha, welcome to Gome :P
[07:28] <Xavura> lol
[07:28] <Flannel> !puregnome | Xavura
[07:28] <ubott2> Xavura: If you want to remove all !KDE packages and have a default !Ubuntu system follow the instructions here << http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome >>
[07:28] <Xavura> Damn, that bot knows everything.
[07:28] <Xavura> Is it safe?
[07:28] <magnetron> Flannel: we have a *factoid* for that? wow
[07:28] <Elf_Warrior> Ðóññêèå åñòü ?!
[07:28] <spoon_man> netecho, I don't know offhand, sorry
[07:28] <SoulKeeper> So, I've been having random programs just up and die on me. :/
[07:28] <NetEcho> k
[07:29] <Xavura> Question, what is ubott2?
[07:29] <Xavura> Infobot?
[07:29] <Flannel> magnetron: I ws surprised too.  Someone asked the other day and I switched to my browser to grab the URL and.... factoid.
[07:29] <Xavura> Mozbot?
[07:29] <Xavura> Custom?
[07:29] <Myrtti> Xavura: supybot by heart
[07:29] <Xavura> Supybot? Never heard of that one
[07:30] <Flannel> Xavura: supybot, read all about it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots  and please, don't use the enter key as punctuation
[07:30] <BoneE> how do i get write access from my linux box
[07:30] <Xavura> Flannel: It's like an OCD, I can't help it. I'll try not to use it as much
[07:30] <spoon_man> !supybot
[07:30] <Xavura> :P
[07:30] <ubott2> Factoid supybot not found
[07:30] <Elf_Warrior> Russian boy !!!
[07:30] <BoneE> ubott2: how do i get write access from my linux box
[07:30] <ubott2> BoneE: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[07:30] <spoon_man> very curious...
[07:30] <magnetron> !msgthebot > spoon_man
[07:31] <NetEcho> !rsync
[07:31] <ubott2> Factoid rsync not found
[07:31] <magnetron> !msgthebot > NetEcho
[07:31] <spoon_man> just wanted to see if there was a supybot factoid
[07:31] <Xavura> Ok, just so I'm clear
[07:32] <Xavura> I installed Kubuntu from DISC, then installed Ubuntu from KONSOLE, on TOP of Kubuntu
[07:32] <__ryan__> anyone know any good dvd recovery cd's? got a scratched up dvd i want to try to recover files from
[07:32] <NetEcho> anyone know anything about setting up rsync in ubuntu?
[07:32] <Xavura> This isn't going to break anything, right?
[07:32] <Elf_Warrior> Admin hear ??
[07:32] <Xavura> It seems like the tutorial is talking about people who installed Kubuntu from within Ubuntu
[07:32] <Xavura> Not the other way around.
[07:32] <magnetron> Xavura: we understand your question. they are not on top of eachother at all
[07:33] <Xavura> Ok, just checking, I'm relatively new to Linux so
[07:33] <Xavura> It's best to be safe
[07:34] <spoon_man> installing ubuntu after installing kubuntu should, in theory, not change anything unless you went with gnome on the second install
[07:34] <jasonwood> 有人么？
[07:34] <jasonwood> 中国的？
[07:34] <spoon_man> !cn jasonwood
[07:34] <ubott2> Factoid cn jasonwood not found
[07:34] <renginez> Hi guys, could anyone tekk me how do i install my dlink dw110 which runs on ralink RT73 chipset in ubuntu, (im using an ibook g3)..?
[07:34] <spoon_man> !cn | jasonwood
[07:34] <ubott2> jasonwood: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[07:34] <magnetron> !zh | jasonwood
[07:35] <magnetron> !wifi | renginez
[07:35] <ubott2> renginez: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:35] <pccc> tech0007: sys recovery cd worked! thanks!
[07:36] <teamz> I usually use /etc/init.d/vsftpd start the process but it doesnt start ? Does anyone have a clue?
[07:36] <Xavura> magnetron: at the end of that long command it has && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:36] <Xavura> Isn't that going to overwrite everything?
[07:36] <Xavura> and effectively get rid of all my programs etc.
[07:37] <magnetron> Xavura: nonono, installing a package doesn't overwrite anything
[07:37] <Xavura> But why do I need && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:37] <Xavura> I already have ubuntu-desktop.
[07:37] <Xavura> Obviously, since I'm using Ubuntu right now.
[07:37] <Flannel> Xavura: reinstalling it won't hurt.  And *you* don't, that page is generic
[07:38] <Xavura> So all my files, places/locations, programs, settings will be intact?
[07:38] <Flannel> Xavura: Nothing will change, apt-get will say "this is already installed" and ignore it
[07:38] <IanX1> hello
[07:40] <Mr_Giraffe> hello, does anybody know how to get sound enabled on the HP tx2000 laptop?
[07:40] <spoon_man> xavura, apt is pretty smart when it comes to intelligently upgrading something, especially when you use Synaptic
[07:40] <Xavura> Ok.
[07:41] <Xavura> Synaptic is the
[07:41] <Xavura> thing in Administration somewhere right
[07:41] <spoon_man> yep
[07:41] <Xavura> Is it better to use that, than apt-get from a Terminal?
[07:41] <Mr_Giraffe> i tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4411351&postcount=1 i followed this guide, but even so the sound still isn't working
[07:41] <rainwalker> Synaptic Package Manager
[07:41] <rainwalker> Synaptic is a GUI for apt
[07:41] <spoon_man> ^^
[07:42] <renginez> Anyone know how to update the Header source for ubuntu? and should i gedit the sources.list?
[07:42] <rainwalker> Xavura: it's whichever you're more comfortable with
[07:43] <Spender> Hey is it possible to share my /home partition between Slackware and Ubuntu.
[07:43] <Spender> I already have slack installed wanted to try ubuntu but don't wanna split my home partition
[07:43] <ASau`> How can that be, that ~/bin is first in path, but "make" from there isn't called at all?
[07:43] <ASau`> PATH is exported.
[07:43] <ASau`> "which make" points to ~/bin/make
[07:43] <Xavura> rainwalker: I don't know, they both work, which is newer/better/more reliable or whatever
[07:44] <Xavura> Everyone tells me to use aptitude rather than apt-get, I don't know why
[07:44] <renginez> Anyone know how to update the Header source for ubuntu? and should i gedit the sources.list?
[07:47] <rainwalker> how can I make my trackpad left-click when I tap it instead of right-click? I've tried gsynaptics and it has nothing about it
[07:47] <renginez> Anyone know how to update the Header source for ubuntu? and should i gedit the sources.list?
[07:48] <Flannel> renginez: what do you mean "header source"?
[07:48] <renginez> Flannel: sorry i meant the header kernel for ubuntu?
[07:48] <DrLame> I need a 'sudo apt-get install' command for a media player that can play mp4s =(
[07:48] <DrLame> or a codec?
[07:49] <Xavura> DrLame: can't you just download the support for mp4s with Synaptic or whatever
[07:49] <Xavura> I did earlier
[07:49] <Xavura> I tried to play an mpeg or mp4 or something, it said cannot play blah blah do you want to download the codecs?
[07:49] <Xavura> Did it not ask you anything like that?
[07:49] <DrLame> I downloaded the two things it displayed, now the list is empty and it still wont play
[07:49] <TeslaTony> I want to set up a couple accounts in my system with different languages. Are there any good places to go to help set that up?
[07:49] <Xavura> No idea then
[07:50] <Spender> is it possible to share a single /home partition between 2 distros
[07:50] <Werdna> Spender: sure.
[07:51] <renginez> Anyone know how to update the Header kernel for ubuntu? and should i gedit the sources.list?
[07:51] <Spender> Werdna, How would I do this without messing up the hidden files in /home
[07:51] <aata> has anyone had a problem in 8.04 usinig dual monitors where the second monitor only displays a part of the screen? (i.e screen looks magnified)
[07:51] <rainwalker> DrLame: I'm pretty sure VLC can play anything
[07:52] <DrLame> rainwalker, vlc plays these videos in windows... Can I 'sudo pat-get vlc' ?
[07:52] <DrLame> *apt
[07:52] <renginez> Anyone know how to update the Header kernel for ubuntu? and should i gedit the sources.list?
[07:52] <aata> anyone?
[07:52] <renginez> help anyone?
[07:52] <rainwalker> DrLame: have you added the medibuntu repos?
[07:53] <DrLame> rainwalker: I don't think so.....
[07:53] <rainwalker> well do that
[07:53] <Kartagis> DrLame: apt-get install vlc
[07:53] <DrLame> I had to do a fresh install today after I broke my linux =(
[07:54] <rainwalker> DrLame: that sucks...well add the medibuntu repos (google medibuntu) and install the codecs it tells you
[07:54] <DrLame> wewt
[07:54] <DrLame> It's working Kartagis, thanks
[07:54] <renginez> Anyone know how to update the Header kernel for ubuntu? and should i gedit the sources.list?
[07:54] <ASau`> Ubunto sucks.
[07:54] <aata> oh can someone paste bin an unmodified version of xorg.conf?
[07:54] <renginez> i need serious help here/...
[07:54] <DrLame> lol?
[07:54] <aata> please
[07:54] <aata> renginez whats the  problem?
[07:55] <rainwalker> aata: you can run a live cd and copy/paste it; I would give you mine but I think I've modified it
[07:55] <rainwalker> DrLame: the medibuntu repos have the codecs you need to play just about any file type
[07:55] <aata> rainwalker dont have a livecd :P internet?
[07:56] <rainwalker> aata: hmm well I guess you could ask on the forums, or download an ubuntu iso and burn a live cd...I don't know :/
[07:56] <IanX1> hello
[07:56] <IanX1> whast the link on how to install flash on 64 bit ubuntu
[07:57] <renginez> aata: my problem started when i could not make file of the usb wifi driver source that ralink website gave me, so i must have miss the header kernels, now i need to download the updates for kernel headers.....as i need to gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and i do not know which website or ftp server to put into for the files to search the updadates??
[07:58] <renginez> if debian kernel headers works in ubuntu, then ill have less hassle here....so anyone pls enlighten me?
[07:58] <renginez> aata:^^^
[07:58] <Blade_Wizard_Fal> is there a way to directly upgrade my system from Dapper 6.06 to Hardy?
[07:58] <Flannel> Blade_Wizard_Fal: yes.
[07:58] <Flannel> !upgrade | Blade_Wizard_Fal
[07:58] <ubott2> Blade_Wizard_Fal: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:59] <IanX1> how do install flash for firefox 64
[07:59] <aata> renginez try googling for kernel headers repositories?
[07:59] <Ademan> anyone know if there's a way to view google that's lynx friendly?
[07:59] <Blade_Wizard_Fal> flannel: thank you i was searching the forums..and i guess maybe i was typing the wrong words...cause i couldnt find anything...
[08:00] <aata> rainwalker found my old xorg.conf it was backed up. can you help me with this bloody monitor problem? cant seem to find a solution
[08:00] <spoon_man> renginez, did something happen to your sources.list? because the default version should point to all the repos you need
[08:01] <rainwalker> aata: I'll try, I'm not too experienced with graphics stuff though
[08:01] <spoon_man> renginez, here's my sources.list, it's standard as far as I know: http://paste.ubuntu.com/22792/
[08:02] <renginez> spoon_man: nope it did not, thats y i need to change the link after the #deb, to download the proper headers from the proper server..
[08:02] <aata> rainwalker anythings help :p
[08:02] <rainwalker> aata: what exactly is the problem?
[08:02] <renginez> btw i am running a ubuntu 5.0,
[08:02] <spoon_man> oh
[08:02] <aata> rainwalker the thing is that when i hook up to the external monitor, i can only see about 75% of the screen. the rest goes off the edges of the monitor. it looks fine on the laptop though
[08:03] <Flannel> renginez: 5.04?
[08:03] <spoon_man> renginez, then my sources.list won't work for you
[08:03] <aata> but the reason i need an external monitor is because the laptops lcd is pretty much destroyed
[08:03] <renginez> yeah the 5.04
[08:03] <Flannel> renginez: Hoary hasn't been supported for almost two years now.  You need to upgrade, and your repos don't work, because theyre all down
[08:03] <Bob24> Hello
[08:04] <Bob24> is it possible to add video streams in mythbuntu so you can stream them?
[08:04] <spoon_man> I suppose you could find-and-replace "hardy" with "hoary"
[08:04] <renginez> Flannel: i couldnt upgrade until i upgrade my rams....
[08:04] <rainwalker> renginez: the latest version of ubuntu is 8.04
[08:04] <Flannel> spoon_man: His repos don't work because the mirrors are down, not because his sources.list is broken
[08:05] <RabidLockerGnome> Hey guys, having some trouble getting ubuntu to work with my surround sound
[08:05] <rainwalker> aata: wow...I honestly have no clue :(
[08:05] <Flannel> renginez: Alright,well, if you switch your repos it http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/, they will work.
[08:05] <Dezine> Trying to use VirtualBox, get this error when it first opens. FATAL ERROR: Attribute 'version' has a value, '1.3-linux', that does not match its #FIXED value, '1.2-linux'
[08:05] <spoon_man> renginez, how much RAM do you have? because xubuntu could work for you
[08:05] <Flannel> renginez: but, again, you *need* to upgrade.  You're completely unsupported, and that means vulnerabilities
[08:05] <aata> rainwalker np. thanks anyway
[08:05] <renginez> im running on super low rams 128mb
[08:06] <Bob24> is it possible to add video streams in mythbuntu so you can stream them?
[08:06] <Flannel> !repeat | Bob24
[08:06] <ubott2> Bob24: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:06] <renginez> Flannel: the http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ 404 not found...
[08:06] <Flannel> renginez: It works.  Are you connected to the internet?
[08:06] <renginez> spoon_man:^^^^ about my rams..128mb
[08:07] <renginez> Flannel: yes tru my windows it is connected  to internet, my ibook is currently off....
[08:07] <spoon_man> renginez yeah, I think you need 256 to run xubuntu smoothly
[08:08] <renginez> spoon_man: yes, im hunting for a 512mb ram. So i could get updates for my ibook easily with less problems
[08:08] <teamz>  I have apt-get remove pure-ftpd but it still in /etc/init.d/ and other places .. ??
[08:08] <deejaypip> So umm this is a very basic question but how do i update java in firefox?
[08:09] <renginez> Flannel: i tried opening the link using internet explorer to check if the site is on, unfortunately it states 404 not found....
[08:09] <cableroy> anyone else got problems with ubuntu 8.04 and Firefox3? Mine is so slow, high CPU usage
[08:09] <ce_maneezzz> rere
[08:10] <Flannel> renginez: then something is wrong with your internet, since it works here.
[08:10] <renginez> Btw i have a live cd, can i update my kernel headers tru there?
[08:12] <renginez> Flannel: ill try again later of http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ link....kinda sleepy now, however this link is for me to edit the gedit sources.list deb link?
[08:12] <Flannel> renginez: yes, you replace the URL in there with that one, then your sources will work
[08:12] <spoon_man> renginez, you might want to look into Damn Small Linux for now, very low system requirements
[08:13] <renginez> Flannel: there are like 4 deb links? replace all four links with that same link u gave me?
[08:13] <SlimG> Is the i386 package of wine working better than the amd64 package?
[08:13] <Flannel> renginez: yes
[08:13] <renginez> spoon_man: yes i sucessfully done wif the debian....just trying out ubuntu, as ppl say its much more friendly
[08:14] <khmer42> I have an IBM T43 with an ATI x300 graphics card, anything that involves anything graphical such as cubix or Google Earth is really choppy. It
[08:14] <renginez> Flannel: just the link that has to be replace? sould i add anything behind the link? like  http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/  stable main contrib non-free?
[08:15] <khmer42> 's a fast machines so I was wondering if anyone has any tips to speed things up?
[08:15] <khmer42> P.S I'm runnning Hardy.
[08:15] <Flannel> renginez: You shouldn't have stable, contrib or non-free in there.
[08:16] <deejaypip> Yeah, I'm looking around and... I can't figure out how to update java for the life of me
[08:16] <deejaypip> umm, update java on firefox
[08:16] <Flannel> renginez: "deb URL hoary main restricted universe multiverse" then "deb URL hoary-updates main restricted universe multiverse" then the same, but with hoardy-security
[08:16] <NetEcho> when you share a printer from Ubuntu do you need any special drivers under windows?
[08:17] <renginez> Flannel: just the plain link right? after that i shall type "apt-ge update" as root, and then type "apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.18-6-powerpc"....? (sorry just to recomfirm the steps)
[08:17] <Flannel> renginez: Something close to that, yeah.
[08:18] <renginez> Flannel: you sure they have linux-headers-2.6.18-6-powerp?
[08:18] <renginez> powerpc*
[08:18] <donda> how to configure internet settings on ubuntu 8.04
[08:18] <NetEcho> renginez sudo apt-get
[08:18] <NetEcho> renginez why not just run systmem updates?
[08:19] <rere> hhh
[08:19] <RabidLockerGnome> anyone have any experience getting Surround Sound systems to work? i cant figure out a thing to do
[08:20] <NetEcho> RabidLockerGnome what sound card?
[08:20] <Flannel> renginez: No.  It'll be whatever it offers.  You can find it through synaptic.  I haven't dealt with hoary in forever, so I'm not sure re: versions
[08:20] <RabidLockerGnome> ca0106
[08:20] <smellynoser> Anybody know of an active ImageMagick channel?
[08:20] <Flannel> renginez: but it'll be something close to that
[08:20] <RabidLockerGnome> NetEcho, it's a creative soundblaster
[08:20] <NetEcho> RabidLockerGnome try going to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers   see if there is a disabled driver for it
[08:20] <RabidLockerGnome> Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[08:21] <RabidLockerGnome> NetEcho, nope
[08:21] <renginez02> Flannel: a n00b question here? whats a synaptic?
[08:21] <NetEcho> no clue then
[08:21] <smellynoser> You broke it
[08:21] <Flannel> renginez02: Do you have a GUI?
[08:21] <NetEcho> I've heard audigy's work great in linux
[08:21] <RabidLockerGnome> yes, but i can't get it to work with my surround sound
[08:21] <RabidLockerGnome> just the front two make any sound
[08:21] <renginez02> NetEcho: it updates everything...include the kernel headers automatically? (sorry im a n00b)
[08:21] <renginez02> Flannel: yes the GNOME...
[08:21] <NetEcho> renginez02 yes
[08:22] <Flannel> renginez02: Synaptic is a graphical package manager, a graphical front end to apt-get
[08:22] <renginez02> NetEcho: so "apt-get updates" command does all the jobs for me?
[08:22] <NetEcho> renginez02 System > Administration > Update Manager
[08:22] <Flannel> NetEcho: there was no update manager for Hoary
[08:22] <NetEcho> Hoary?
[08:22] <Flannel> NetEcho: yes
[08:22] <NetEcho> whats Hoary?
[08:22] <Flannel> NetEcho: Ubuntu 5.04
[08:23] <NetEcho> Ack
[08:23] <renginez02> lol
[08:23] <NetEcho> renginez02 why not get 8.04?
[08:23] <NetEcho> Flannel good thing I didn't use ubuntu back then lol
[08:23] <renginez02> Flannel: how do i use this synaptic to egt the headers info or updates u were saying?
[08:24] <Flannel> renginez02: Just search for linux-header, it'll bring up a list of the available ones, click the one you want, and then hit apply
[08:24] <renginez02> NetEcho: i plan to get 8.04 once i upgraded my rams....haven't find the right one dough
[08:24] <NetEcho> renginez02 which serise of PPC?
[08:24] <rere> oo
[08:25] <timezone1> ..
[08:25] <rere> ................
[08:25] <renginez02> NetEcho: owh, i forgotten, i think it doesnt support the g3 PPC...
[08:25] <rere> ..............
[08:25] <NetEcho> wow thats old
[08:25] <renginez02> Flannel: hold up....im checking it now....
[08:25] <NetEcho> so basicaly Original Mac style PPC?
[08:25] <rere> eeeeeeeeeeee
[08:26] <NetEcho> something wrong rere?
[08:26] <NetEcho> ...
[08:26] <renginez02> NetEcho: yeah....the dual usb....its antic...but not as the the 1st version of g3...
[08:26] <NetEcho> renginez02 next system I get is a new iMac
[08:27] <renginez02> NetEcho: planning to get a g4 on ebay...if theres a right one.
[08:27] <NetEcho> why not a G5?
[08:27] <rere> eeeeeeeeeeee
[08:27] <renginez02> NetEcho: a g5? ibook g5? never heard of it...but imac g5..
[08:28] <NetEcho> renginez02 the G5 was just prior to the intel switch
[08:28] <NetEcho> rere is something wrong or are you just trying to spam us?
[08:28] <NetEcho> renginez02 http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-Power-Mac-G5-Dual-2-GHz-1-5-GB-RAM-320GB-HD_W0QQitemZ170230855900QQihZ007QQcategoryZ111418QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[08:28] <Inteliwasp> quck question, i am usesing the ubuntu boot cd, is compiz enabled on the demo? if so, how do i start it?
[08:28] <snarkster> good evening gents
[08:28] <spoonman_away> !en | rere
[08:28] <ubott2> rere: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:28] <renginez02> NetEcho: owh thats some freshness to me? i think ill get the g5 instead...
[08:29] <wols_> NetEcho: there is no G5 lappie. the lack of such a CPU was one of the immediate reasons to switch to ia32
[08:29] <NetEcho> renginez02 the G5 is a pretty sweet machine
[08:29] <NetEcho> wols_ unfortunatly yea
[08:29] <NetEcho> but the power mac was awesome
[08:29] <NetEcho> I got to set one up for one of my schools
[08:29] <wols_> had awesome power requirements too :)
[08:29] <NetEcho> someone stole it though :(
[08:30] <NetEcho> renginez02 the newer macs have come down in price as well
[08:30] <renginez02> NetEcho: thinking of intel-based, nope ill not get it then, i think il get the easy laptop, im not use to mac stuff, but the design does giv me a poke
[08:30] <NetEcho> keep an eye on them
[08:30] <NetEcho> wols_ I finnaly talked my mom into switching to Ubuntu :D
[08:30] <renginez02> NetEcho: very inviting...mac or a laptop.
[08:31] <NetEcho> renginez02 macbook?
[08:31] <RabidLockerGnome> man, just cannot get the surround sound to work
[08:31] <NetEcho> they can run windows/linux as well now
[08:31] <aeonix> Hey Ubunters! Never really checkout the IRC channel but what is up?
[08:31] <NetEcho> well linux has always been an option
[08:32] <spoonman_away> installing windows on a mac just seems wrong
[08:32] <renginez02> NetEcho: maybe mac pro air (if not mistaken by the name)...yeah...that does everything...
[08:32] <NetEcho> spoonman_away depends if you need windows for certain apps
[08:32] <spoonman_away> true
[08:32] <NetEcho> I work in an IT environment where unfortunatly windows is needed
[08:32] <renginez02> Flannel: where can i see the synapsis prog?
[08:33] <ceca> ............
[08:33] <NetEcho> renginez02 in command line type synaptic
[08:33] <spoonman_away> netecho, I've actually been going over the question of what Windows covers that isn't done by OSX or Linux, but I don't want to go off-topic here...
[08:33] <exot> hello, I want to make a file writable by another server, what is the easiest way to do though ?
[08:33] <NetEcho> spoonman_away its almost to the point of nothing heh
[08:34] <bonefish> hello
[08:34] <spoonman_away> i got World of Warcraft working in Wine today, so that's one major stumbling block out of the way :P
[08:35] <Xavura> exot: I don't think that's possible.
[08:35] <temoto-mobi> Hello.
[08:35] <NetEcho> spoonman_away lol
[08:35] <snarkster> I usually play D2 and StrarCraft on wine
[08:36] <renginez02> Flannel, NetEcho: Headers fall under which category in synaptic...(btw thanks for the tip guys)/...
[08:36] <exot> Xavura, hmm .. I was thinking to export an empty directory using NFS and make ln to the needed file, but I can't guarantee security
[08:36] <FuRom> Does anyone know what desktop ubuntu studio uses?
[08:36] <temoto-mobi> I downloaded kernel source via git, compiled. then make mrproper killed debian dir in my kernel source dir. git pull doesn't restore it.
[08:37] <temoto-mobi> How to recreate debian dir?
[08:37] <Gigadelic_IIDX> yo i have a question
[08:37] <FuRom> I'm running ubuntu desktop, with gnome, and I just want to know what I'll be dealing with, if I install ubuntustudio-desktop from the synaptic package manager.
[08:37] <spoon_man> !ask | Gigadelic_IIDX
[08:37] <ubott2> Gigadelic_IIDX: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[08:38] <Gigadelic_IIDX> oh sorry
[08:38] <bonefish> Is this the channel of Ubuntu ?
[08:38] <NetEcho> renginez02 use the search option
[08:38] <Gigadelic_IIDX> i was wondering is there a Root Browser im trying to move a file to amarok's script folder
[08:39] <spoon_man> Gigadelic_IIDX, "gksudo nautilus" in a Terminal
[08:39] <renginez02> just search for headers and all headers appears or i need to be more specific? (e.g: include version no.////this n that?)
[08:40] <Gigadelic_IIDX> oh sweet thx
[08:40] <spoon_man> np
[08:40] <srizz> im having troulbe enabling java/ sun java in firefox
[08:42] <DistroJockey> srizz, in what way?
[08:43] <srizz> i got the sun java web start, plugin control panel, policy tool, and open jdk, but when i goto sites requiring java/sun java it doesn't work
[08:44] <srizz> i was up here yesterday and those were suggested to get
[08:44] <DistroJockey> srizz, get  sun-java6-plugin
[08:44] <srizz> i got that, it was in synaptic right?
[08:45] <DistroJockey> srizz, yep
[08:45] <srizz> yeah i got that still nothin
[08:45] <DistroJockey> srizz, that is the only one I usually need
[08:45] <NetEcho> Good night all
[08:45] <spoon_man> night
[08:45] <Asashi> Rho.
[08:45] <aeonix> night
[08:45] <srizz> peace
[08:45] <DistroJockey> srizz, you closed all instances of Firefox?
[08:45] <aeonix> Who wants to play late night beta testing for me.... please....
[08:46] <srizz> yeah and restarted my comp after that had no effect
[08:46] <userbina> hai....................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:46] <Kartagis> can anybody help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5257220 please?
[08:46] <spoon_man> srizz, have you tried Java 6 Runtime, or OpenJDK Runtime? Or Icedtea?
[08:46] <Asashi> Y'a pas un Français, ici, j'suppose
[08:46] <spoon_man> ah, i see you tried JDK
[08:46] <srizz> icedtea? ive heard of the other but what?
[08:46] <spoon_man> !fr | asashi
[08:46] <ubott2> asashi: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement.  Just did a clean install of hardy 32 bit on my comp (again) with a seperate /home partition (on a seperate hdd) grub went tits up, but after fixing device.map grub decided to boot, but then all i see is the usplash screen for ages, then i get dropped to a busybox initramfs shell. How can i fix this?
[08:47] <Asashi> Thank spoon_man  :)
[08:48] <Hermes> Anyone know why?
[08:48] <spoon_man> no problem asashi :)
[08:48] <_Antoine_> hello
[08:48] <Hermes> Hi
[08:49] <Hermes> Ok, never mind
[08:49] <_Antoine_> i have a problem with virtualbox, when i open a virtual machine there is an error: http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/source-970.html
[08:49] <Xavura> How do I move things around on the panel?
[08:49] <Xavura> (s)
[08:49] <abuyazan> hello
[08:49] <ah> back again
[08:50] <srizz> sun-java6-bin, jre, plugin are installed
[08:50] <aeonix> HERMES private message me
[08:51] <abuyazan> i am using zip command to compress a file with .zip then move it with scp to my laptop , but when i open it it give me file corrupted
[08:51] <exot> hello, how can I export only one file from a file system, I need to make a file editable by another machine
[08:51] <ikonia> abuyazan: the zip file is corrupt then
[08:51] <abuyazan> i use zip -j option
[08:51] <spoon_man> srizz, did you install these from an Ubuntu repository, or from the Web?
[08:51] <DistroJockey> srizz, hmm, maybe you could try the following just to make sure none of those others messed it up:   sudo apt-get --reinstall sun-java6-plugin
[08:51] <ikonia> exot: what do you mean "export"
[08:51] <abuyazan> i cannot open it ikonia
[08:51] <ikonia> exot: what do you want to move
[08:51] <ikonia> abuyazan: because its corrupt
[08:51] <ikonia> oops
[08:51] <acp_> Xavura: right click then uncheck the lock the panel
[08:52] <srizz> spoon_man: repository
[08:52] <abuyazan> ikonia, see this http://pastebin.com/m5771a0c3
[08:52] <acp_> then you select move
[08:52] <exot> ikonia, I mean, I want single file to be editable, it's not necessary to be by nfs, sorry
[08:52] <DistroJockey> _Antoine_, did you do what the error message said to do to fix the problem?
[08:52] <Xavura> Yeah I found it acp_
[08:52] <srizz> DistroJockey: ok
[08:52] <ikonia> abuyazan: I'll say it again its corrupt
[08:52] <ikonia> abuyazan: run "file" agailst that zip file and you'll probably find it's not a zip file
[08:53] <ikonia> exot: what ??? you want to edit a single file
[08:53] <_Antoine_> DistroJockey i have found
[08:53] <ikonia> exot: what is stopping you edit that file
[08:53] <exot> ikonia, hehe .. from another machine :D
[08:53] <abuyazan> but i created by my self with this command zip -j xxx.zip file-name
[08:53] <_Antoine_> only sudo chgrp vboxusers /dev/vboxdrv sudo chmod 666 /dev/vboxdrv
[08:53] <abuyazan> is it right ?
[08:53] <_Antoine_> thanx
[08:53] <ikonia> abuyazan: look at the error also /home/khaled/Desktop/Quarantined_files.20080625.27367.zip.zip
[08:53] <ikonia> abuyazan: it's post-appending .zip
[08:53] <DistroJockey> _Antoine_, cool, np
[08:54] <user__> Hello, I get the following error when trying to update ubuntu: Fatal: Bios device code 0x80 is being used by two disks
[08:54] <user__> 	/dev/sdb (0x0810)  and  /dev/sda (0x0800)
[08:54] <berzerka> i am writing a userspace usb driver which uses the USBDEVFS_BULK ioctl on the udev /dev/bus/usb/*/* files to read device data. on my gentoo system at home, this works flawlessly (as a user, with rw permission on the device file). here on this (k)ubuntu system, i get "Operation not permitted", wether i am user or use sudo. i have (group) rw permissions on the device file. any ideas? i think i need the CAP_SYS_RAWIO capability. is it generally
[08:54] <berzerka> disabled on ubuntu? anyone an idea?
[08:54] <exot> ikonia, did u understand what I mean ?
[08:54] <ikonia> exot: then the file system needs to be mounted on the local machine
[08:54] <ikonia> berzerka: are you using raid
[08:54] <berzerka> ikonia: no
[08:54] <ikonia> oops
[08:54] <ikonia> user__: are you using raid
[08:54] <ikonia> berzerka: sorry, that wasn't for you
[08:54] <srizz> DistroJockey: E: Invalid operation sun-java6-plugin
[08:54] <user__> ikonia: yes
[08:54] <berzerka> ikonia: :)
[08:54] <ikonia> user__: your using fakeraid I assume ?
[08:54] <exot> ikonia, this is my problem, it's risky to mount the whole file system exported
[08:55] <ikonia> exot: then don't do it, login and edit it remotly
[08:55] <user__> ikonia: linux raid as far as I remember
[08:55] <DistroJockey> srizz, yeah, was wondering about that. Put  install  infront of  --reinstall
[08:55] <ikonia> user__: linux raid, please show me the output of "cat /proc/mdstat"
[08:55] <exot> ikonia, it's an automated task, could be ?
[08:55] <ikonia> exot: not very easy
[08:55] <user__> Personalities : [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10]
[08:55] <user__> md0 : active raid0 sdb3[0] sdc2[1]
[08:55] <user__>       155356416 blocks 64k chunks
[08:55] <user__>
[08:55] <user__> unused devices: <none>
[08:55] <FloodBot2> user__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:55] <exot> ikonia, I see .. thank you very much
[08:55] <ikonia> user__: ughhh raid0
[08:56] <ikonia> user__: what are you doing that gives you an error
[08:56] <user__> ikonia: is there something wrong with raid0?
[08:56] <ikonia> user__: its a pointless technology
[08:56] <DistroJockey> srizz, that working better so far?
[08:57] <user__> ikonia: dist-upgrade
[08:57] <BeeBuu> anyone using fail2ban?
[08:57] <ikonia> user__: could you please pastebin the exact error as it's out of my buffer now please.
[08:57] <user__> ok
[08:58] <BeeBuu> Y my fail2ban doesn't work?
[08:58] <srizz> DistroJockey: negative, just reopened and checked firefox
[08:58] <jimcooncat> is there a tool I can use to get a count of characters used in a file? For example, this file has 208 a's, 52 b's, etc.
[08:58] <ikonia> berzerka: what's the problem with it
[08:58] <DistroJockey> srizz, Hardy 8.04, Firefox 3 ?
[08:58] <user__> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/d15505f42
[08:58] <srizz> DistroJockey: could the config settings be wrong
[08:58] <jjido> msg Nickserv identify A1897
[08:58] <BeeBuu> jimcooncat: may be wc can help you
[08:58] <berzerka> ikonia: sorry, Konversation crashed......
[08:58] <srizz> DistroJockey: yup
[08:59] <Flannel> jjido: you'll want to change that password
[08:59] <ikonia> user__: that error is complaining about sda and sdb thats not in the raid group you showed me
[08:59] <ikonia> user__: whats the configuration of those 2 disks
[08:59] <jimcooncat> thanks BeeBuu, it looks as if it might!
[08:59] <jjido> Flannel: damn is that recorded?
[08:59] <berzerka> ikonia: the problem is that my userspace driver doesn't work. or wasn't that for me again? :)
[08:59] <Flannel> jjido: yeah, besides the fact that everyone here saw it
[08:59] <BeeBuu> jimcooncat: you're welcome.
[08:59] <DistroJockey> srizz, and I'm guessing java doesn't show in Firefox's plugins area?
[08:59] <ikonia> berzerka: sorry, I didn't mean to say your name, my autocomplete is picking on you
[09:00] <berzerka> ikonia: no problem :)
[09:00] <user__> ikonia: if this matters, I use x86-64; what do you mean exactly by "the configuration of those 2 disks"?
[09:00] <srizz> DistroJockey: nope
[09:01] <spoon_man> srizz, what does about:plugins say in firefox?
[09:01] <ikonia> user__: well, how is /dev/sda and /dev/sdb setup on your system, are they mounted file systems, are they raid ? thats the situation with them
[09:01] <clems> exit
[09:01] <clems> arf
[09:01] <zloog> Hi, If I setup samba sharing using the GUI in 8.04 where are my share settings saved? the /etc/samba/smb.conf doesnt mention my Video or Audio shared folders.
[09:01] <ikonia> user__: whats the situation with them, I mean
[09:01] <DistroJockey> srizz, you could try:  sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[09:02] <user__> ikonia: here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/d26603ac8
[09:02] <srizz> spoon_man: are you refering to the list of plugins
[09:03] <lvlefisto> which package has the source code for the endgame screensaver?
[09:03] <DistroJockey> srizz, or:  sudo update-alternatives –config java
[09:03] <user__> ikonia: sda and sdb are raid
[09:03] <DistroJockey> srizz, that one looks better :)
[09:03] <ikonia> user__: what type of raid ?
[09:03] <spoon_man> srizz, yes
[09:03] <user__> ikonia: linux raid
[09:03] <ikonia> user__: no they are not
[09:04] <ikonia> user__: if they where linux raid they would be called "/dev/md$something" not /dev/sda
[09:04] <DistroJockey> srizz, btw, the 2 - in front of config
[09:04] <srizz> DistroJockey: the first command went through fine the second had an error
[09:04] <DistroJockey> srizz, ahh, *nods*
[09:04] <ikonia> user__: the /proc/mdstat output does not show /dev/sda and /dev/sdb in a linux raid meta device
[09:04] <Gman99999> hey how do you mount hard drives again after it says cannot mount dont have the user rights, I had access to my other partitions for weeks now and all of a sudden its messed up
[09:05] <user__> ikonia: Please look at my /etc/fstab http://pastebin.com/d26603ac8 , there's a /dev/md0 in it
[09:05] <powertool08> will X work if I only install -xserver and not -fonts -twm xf86-input-* etc?
[09:05] <srizz> spoon_man: there are about ten or so plugins itunes wmp vlc divx and such
[09:05] <ikonia> user__: yes, and there is also /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 how can /dev/sda and /dev/sdb be "raid" if your mounting them as /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 on different partitions
[09:05] <ikonia> user__: the /proc/mdstat you showed me didn't have sda or sdb in
[09:06] <ikonia> user__: it shows sdb and sdc in your raid config
[09:06] <DistroJockey> srizz, and a restart of Firefox after that is no better?
[09:06] <mysterycool> Hey
[09:07] <mysterycool> Pidgin won't connect. I type my email and password but it says it's incorrect. but when i try to sign in though the website it works fine! :s
[09:07] <user__> ikonia: I think that sdb and sdc are the actual disks, sda alias md0 is the result of "raiding" them
[09:07] <DistroJockey> srizz, actually try this one again (I fixed the -'s):  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:07] <ikonia> user__: no - sda is not an alias for md0
[09:07] <ikonia> user__: the "alias" is the md0 device name,
[09:07] <zloog> So
[09:07] <zloog> hows everyone doing
[09:08] <ikonia> zloog: this is a busy support channel, not a chat channel
[09:08] <ikonia> zloog: if you want to chat join  #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[09:08] <zloog> o nos
[09:08] <Chikubu> mysterycool: won't connect to what
[09:08] <lvlefisto> mysterycool: i am a user too, but i think you also may know there is also a #pidgin channel
[09:08] <srizz> DistroJockey: its asking to make a new, or keep the current selection
[09:09] <mysterycool> Oh, thank you. =]
[09:09] <srizz> DistroJockey: its between 4 , not sure which to pick
[09:09] <DistroJockey> srizz, and the current is sun-java6 ?
[09:09] <xuxux> is there a way of enabling desktop effects on a nvidia livecd?
[09:09] <xuxux> without installing
[09:10] <xuxux> when i try to enable in appearance it just brings an error saying cannot enable
[09:10] <srizz> DistroJockey: 2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[09:10] <user__> ikonia: hmm.. In the computer there are two serial ata disks setup in raid, and I think that I used linux raid but that was a while ago, everything worked fine under ubuntu x86-64 for two years until some weeks ago with this update
[09:10] <Gault> Hello, can someone offer recommendations for Input method editors available specifically for simplified chinese? which is better?
[09:10] <srizz> DistroJockey: you want me to post the other 3
[09:11] <DistroJockey> srizz, maybe pastebinit if you can, sure
[09:11] <ikonia> user__: I think your disk layout is quite messed up, try using "fdisk -l" against /dev/md0, /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, and /dev/sdc to get an idea what your disks are setup like
[09:12] <DistroJockey> srizz, but that one is  sun-java6-plugin  (and the one I recommend)
[09:12] <srizz> DistroJockey: 1    /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java   |||||     3    /usr/bin/gij-4.2   |||||     4    /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[09:12] <Chikubu> will a p4 2.2 512ram be enuff for a thinclient server
[09:13] <DistroJockey> srizz, yeah, stick with the current one
[09:13] <bazhang> xuxux, what is an nvidia livecd
[09:13] <Chikubu> will boost ram eventualy
[09:13] <DistroJockey> srizz, but I'm running out of ideas as to why it's not working sorry
[09:13] <xuxux> as in using a nvidia card for the livecd
[09:13] <wols_> Chikubu: yes
[09:13] <bazhang> Chikubu, sure
[09:13] <xuxux> so i can enable desktop effects
[09:13] <user__> ikonia: Please look at the output of fdisk -l on http://pastebin.com/d10107e2d
[09:13] <wols_> xuxux: livecd won't load drivres that is 3D capable
[09:14] <xuxux> :/
[09:14] <ikonia> user__: so you have 3 disks in your system,
[09:14] <bazhang> xuxux, very basic effects yes; need to install ccsm to get the full effects, as well as the nvidia drivers
[09:14] <ikonia> user__: I suggest that /dev/sda has at some point been used in fake raid
[09:14] <srizz> DistroJockey: its cool thanks for the help, i was considering a new browser, any suggestions (other than konquerer)
[09:15] <Chikubu> ok, downloading all the stuff to test now, test client will be a 486 board with a pii like chip at 463mhz and 196 ram, that be enuff of a client
[09:15] <zloog> srizz: thunar is always good
[09:15] <DistroJockey> srizz, I do prefer Firefox, but Opera may be worth a look
[09:15] <zloog> srizz: lol nm
[09:15] <spoon_man> opera is pretty sleek, but I haven't been able to find an ad blocker for it
[09:15] <DistroJockey> srizz, and you're welcome. Good luck.
[09:15] <srizz> DistroJockey: yeah im a firefox fan too, is thunar in synaptic
[09:16] <zloog> srizz: sorry thunar is a file browser, I thought that is what you ment
[09:16] <xuxux> whoo the applications/places/system  bar has stopped responding to clicks
[09:16] <xuxux> yay
[09:16] <zloog> srizz: not for web browseing
[09:16] <DistroJockey> srizz, yes it is, but it's a file manager :)
[09:17] <Blade_Wizard_Fal> other than the ways listed here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades is there a way to upgrade from dapper 6.06 to hardy directly?
[09:17] <ikonia> Blade_Wizard_Fal: no
[09:17] <xuxux> now it won't restart
[09:17] <xuxux> yay my linux abilities
[09:17] <Blade_Wizard_Fal> so its either do it that way, or stickwith dapper?
[09:17] <Blade_Wizard_Fal> or a fresh install...
[09:17] <user__> ikonia: I have 3 disks, two sata in raid and one ide that bears the hda name. I don't know why there are sda sdb and sdc, but I'm sure that one of them doesn't correspond to a physical hard disk.
[09:17] <asoare> hello, can someone help me install a custom kernel ? i want it to be based on 2.6.24-19 with a minor modification.
[09:18] <srizz> DistroJockey: oh ok, do you know any other web browsers worth a try, safari would be cool but i doubt thats possible
[09:18] <ikonia> user__: libata changes all hdX names to sdX names
[09:18] <spoon_man> srizz, try opera
[09:18] <ikonia> asoare: what modifications
[09:18] <Chikubu> seamonkey is sprinty
[09:18] <srizz> DistroJockey: k
[09:18] <Chikubu> opera has some nice stuff
[09:19] <asoare> ikonia: i just want to change the processor type in the configuration, that's it
[09:19] <ikonia> asoare: why ?
[09:19] <Chikubu> dingo is very small but somewhat minimal
[09:19] <ikonia> asoare: building a kernel for no reason is a waste and you'll lose ubuntu support
[09:19] <asoare> ikonia: i know how to build and install a kernel, but i don't know where to get the exact sources for 2.6.24-19
[09:19] <ikonia> asoare: because thats not a source
[09:19] <ikonia> asoare: the source is 2.6.24 - ubuntu release 19
[09:19] <DistroJockey> srizz, only really Opera, there are others, but never used them
[09:20] <asoare> ikonia: because in ubuntu kernel, the processor it generic and i want to set it to core 2 duo, i feel it's a little irresponsive as it is now
[09:20] <wols_> asoare: apt-get source <package>
[09:20] <ikonia> asoare: I strongly advise you not to build your own kernel, more so for something as pointless as "changing the cpu type"
[09:20] <user__> ikonia: ok, so sda is probably my ide harddisk; I'm quite sure that the raid is between sdb and sdc because of the output of cat /proc/mdstat
[09:20] <ikonia> asoare: changing that cpu type will do nothing for your performance
[09:20] <bazhang> asoare, the generic is built for smp
[09:20] <wols_> asoare: it's i686. you won't see any improvements
[09:20] <srizz> DistroJockey: true
[09:20] <ikonia> user__: yes, I told you your raid was sdb and sdc
[09:21] <asoare> ikonia: ok, then why does ubuntu feel "laggy" ? it's a fresh install and my computer is pretty performant
[09:21] <Werdna> hello. I've got an nForce2 sound card, using the intel-
[09:21] <xnv> How do you type non-American characters on an American keyboard layout in Ubuntu?
[09:21] <ikonia> asoare: thats a seperate question that we'd need to work through with you
[09:21] <ikonia> asoare: but you've given us zero information, the term "laggy" defines pretty much nothing
[09:21] <ikonia> asoare: I'd like a more detailed definition of laggy
[09:21] <spoon_man> seconded
[09:22] <Werdna> hello. I've got an nForce2 sound card, using the snd_intel8x0 module, and my sound volume is ridiculously low. I can't hear anything, and I've put everything at max in alsa-mixer.
[09:22] <Chikubu> xnv, dont know about typing, but maybe you can use the character map utility to get to the characters, would be a tedious copy past routine
[09:22] <Gault> Hello, can someone offer recommendations for Input method editors available specifically for simplified chinese? which is better?SCIM, UIM, FreeWNN, gcin, iiimf?
[09:23] <Chikubu> ഝ
[09:23] <srizz> DistroJockey: i didn't see it in synaptic
[09:23] <xnv> Chikubu: Too tedious I think.
[09:23] <asoare> ikonia: it feels slow, you know when you do the simplest action and you feel like you have to wait 0.5 seconds for that action to begin executing
[09:23] <user__> ikonia: do you have an idea about what should I do in order to solve my problem (dist-upgrade fails because of "Bios device code 0x80 is being used by two disks", those 2 disks being sda and sdb); since when libata changes all hd* names to sd* names? This could be the problem..
[09:23] <spoon_man> srizz, you can grab the .deb file from opera's site
[09:23] <magnetron> Werdna: some soundcards have a switch for "headphone output", try toggling that switch if you have one
[09:23] <ikonia> user__: libata is not the problem
[09:23] <ikonia> asoare: ok are you tasks visual tasks, or processing tasks
[09:24] <Werdna> magnetron: in alsa-mixer?
[09:24] <DistroJockey> srizz, yeah, it's not in the repo's
[09:24] <asoare> ikonia: i have run both os x and windows and they work way better, and i was expecting ubuntu to work better, because it's lighter
[09:24] <magnetron> Werdna: i guess
[09:24] <zloog> asoare: Is using open file dialogs particularly slow?
[09:24] <titusg> hi, I just upgraded my laptop to hardy and wireless stopped working. it no longer detects any networks and manual config doesn't help...any ideas?
[09:24] <asoare> ikonia: visual, i think the command line is ok
[09:24] <ikonia> asoare: ubuntu's not lighter, but thats not really the dicussion here. Are the tasks your doing visually slow, or are they slow to process
[09:24] <user__> ikonia: If my ide harddisk and one of my sata hardisks are both assigned the same device code 0x80 this could be the problem, couldn't it?
[09:24] <wols_> titusg: reinstall your wlan driver
[09:24] <spoon_man> titusg, wireless in hardy is apparently a little... finicky
[09:25] <srizz> DistroJockey: got it thanks again
[09:25] <ikonia> user__: that could be the problem, but seeing as libata doesn't do that, I'll say it again, libata is not the problem
[09:25] <Werdna> magnetron: I just looked, can';t see it there.
[09:25] <titusg> wols_: hi, how do I do that?
[09:25] <gandalfcome> can I redirect stdout stderr to different files?
[09:25] <DistroJockey> srizz, cool, no problem
[09:25] <ikonia> user__: that is the problem, the bios is identifying the two disks with the same address
[09:25] <Chikubu> xnv maybe remap your keboard
[09:25] <wols_> !wlan | titusg
[09:25] <ubott2> titusg: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:25] <Huffameg> hi! i have a problem: my volume buttons has stopped working. it does a volum icon on the screen but does not affect the real volume.. this is strange as the play, stop and skip buttons works quite well.. anyone who can help me??
[09:25] <zloog> titusg: Out of curiosity what kind of card do you have?
[09:25] <Werdna> gandalfcome: yes. 2>stdout >stdin
[09:25] <wols_> user__: that is a BIOS problem however. nothing ubuntu can fix
[09:25] <magnetron> Werdna: are you using a headphone or speakers?
[09:26] <DistroJockey> srizz, I just thought of one more thing to check :)
[09:26] <titusg> zloog: don't know...how do I check that?
[09:26] <AcidEyE> hello, i just installed the widget factory but i dont know how to open it, becuz i can't find it under system > preferences, and my compiz also stop working. someone help me out in this pls.
[09:26] <user__> wols_: Ok, but then why didn't I have any problem of this kind during the two last versions of Ubuntu?
[09:26] <srizz> DistroJockey: yeah
[09:26] <zloog> titusg: http://pastebin.com/ the output of lspci and post a link here
[09:26] <xnv> Chikubu: No. There has to be a better method than that. I've seen people who tap a couple keys to get the Euro symbol.
[09:26] <xnv> Chikubu: And they did not remap their keyboard.
[09:26] <DistroJockey> srizz, it you browse to  /usr/lib/firefox/plugins  what do you see?
[09:27] <gandalfcome> Werdna: Can I also redirect stdout+stderr in 1 file and only stdout into another file?
[09:27] <Werdna> gandalfcome: possibly. Check man
[09:27] <wols_> user__: I am a bit baffled since what you describe can't really happen. we need more context
[09:27] <Chikubu> Huffameg: is the mixer set to the right device  "volume control" file>change device  just a guess
[09:27] <DistroJockey> srizz, ohh, sorry, that's flash :(
[09:27] <zloog> gandalfcome: somecommand > stdoutfile 2> stderrfile
[09:28] <srizz> DistroJockey: flashplugin-alternative.so  libjavaplugin.so
[09:28] <geirha> xnv: In my layout I use AltGr+e to get the euro
[09:28] <gandalfcome> zloog: did you see my second question? Can I also redirect stdout+stderr in 1 file and only stdout into another file?
[09:28] <DistroJockey> srizz, hmm, I don't have that libjavaplugin.so there
[09:28] <Werdna> magnetron: is there some FAQ that I can check on soundcard issues like that. I've seen a lot saying what to do to set it up, but not many on "what if my sound card oputputs at low volume"
[09:28] <titusg> zloog: OK, http://pastebin.com/d6661b639
[09:28] <gandalfcome> Werdna: thanks, will do
[09:28] <DistroJockey> srizz, maybe a rename of that might fix it
[09:29] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[09:29] <ubott2> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[09:29] <magnetron> !sound  | Werdna
[09:29] <ubott2> Werdna: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:29] <srizz> DistroJockey: how do i do tha
[09:29] <srizz> t
[09:29] <Werdna> magnetron: damn. Already come across them all
[09:29] <funkshow> ugly
[09:30] <magnetron> Werdna: are you using headphones or speakers?
[09:30] <AcidEyE> hello, i just installed the widget factory but i dont know how to open it, becuz i can't find it under system > preferences, and my compiz also stop working. someone help me out in this pls...
[09:30] <Werdna> magnetron: speakers, just trying headphones now though
[09:31] <lab-12> lg mkrn ap aj lho
[09:31] <Werdna> magnetron: I can't hear anything at all on headphones
[09:31] <xnv> Has anyone had success using the Compose Key? I can't get it to work.
[09:31] <zloog> titusg: Can you hear me?
[09:31] <magnetron> Werdna: most sound cards hav adjusted their output levels for amplifiers, so you need to connect the sound card to amplified speakers and then connect the headphones to the speaker amplifier
[09:32] <skam> quit
[09:32] <user__> wols_: I installed  Ubuntu 7.something x86-64 on this machine like 2 years ago, and set-up a linux raid (I think so, maybe another type of raid..) between my two sata disks; later, I added an ide disk to the machine. The pc runs Ubuntu 8.04 with kernel 2.6.24-16 x86-64, and I can't do any system updates because of this strange error. Here's the error on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/d15505f42
[09:32] <DistroJockey> srizz,  sudo mv /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/thatjavafilename /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/thatjavafilename     (forgot the name of that file you mentioned, replace thatjavafilename with it :) )
[09:32] <DistroJockey> srizz, ohh, and stick   .backup  on the end one
[09:33] <zloog> titusg: according to your lspci output you are using an Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) . That should help you goggle the problem if you need to. I read this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/178530 from google and you might want to try a command like sudo rmmod iwl3945 && modprobe iwl3945 to see if that can temporaoly fix your network card
[09:33] <ubott2> Launchpad bug 178530 in ubuntu "hardy alpha2 PRO/Wireless 3945ABG does not work" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[09:33] <DistroJockey> srizz, sudo mv /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/thatjavafilename /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/thatjavafilename.backup
[09:33] <magnetron> user__: you used "BIOS RAID", which is the most buggy kind of raid you can use
[09:33] <wols_> user__: sounds like your RAID config is fubar
[09:34] <xnv> Chikubu: Got it to work. Have to enable the Compose Key in Keyboard Preferences and then it's easy.
[09:34] <Werdna> magnetron: It's also got a front jack which I suspect is designed for headphones, but I don't think sound is being sent out that way. How should I change the output device?
[09:34] <Daemonax> Anyone know how you can get apt-get or aptitude to force install packages if a dependency is missing?
[09:34] <user__> magnetron, wols_: So what should I do? Format?...
[09:34] <titusg> zloog: thanks very much
[09:34] <magnetron> Werdna: i don't know
[09:34] <wols_> Daemonax: even when you can, it will complain forever from then on wrecking your package management
[09:34] <wols_> Daemonax: so not really possible
[09:34] <magnetron> Werdna: just try to plug your headphones in
[09:35] <wols_> !gnewsense
[09:35] <ubott2> gNewSense is a GNU/Linux distribution based off Ubuntu with the aim of containing only free software. The Website is http://www.gnewsense.org  -  Support in #gnewsense, NOT #ubuntu
[09:35] <spoon_man> Daemonax, have you tried synaptic?
[09:35] <Chikubu> thats good
[09:35] <zloog> titusg: unfortunately if that doesn't work im out of suggestions, but now that you know your network card name, hunting down an answer on google should be much easier
[09:35] <asoare> ikonia: ok, just so you know i have my visual settings set to normal
[09:35] <wols_> Daemonax: and please look at the factoid. go to #gnewsense
[09:35] <ikonia> asoare: ok
[09:35] <srizz> .backup
[09:35] <ikonia> magnetron: I've said he used bios raid at some point and he's confident he didn't
[09:35] <asoare> ikonia: and when i do anything visual, i have to wait some time for it to execute
[09:36] <ikonia> asoare: ok, so your machine is not laggy - the desktop is
[09:36] <ikonia> asoare: so a kernel change will do zero for that
[09:36] <Daemonax> wols_: I've already told you that no-one knew the answer, if you're not going to be helpful then just don't reply to me.
[09:36] <wols_> Daemonax: that's not a problem of #ubuntu, sorry
[09:36] <zloog> titusg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-backports-modules-2.6.24/+bug/185470/comments/65 might also be promising
[09:36] <ubott2> Launchpad bug 185470 in linux "iwl3945 not functioning : microcode error" [Unknown,In progress]
[09:36] <Daemonax>  ignoring wols_
[09:37] <wols_> Daemonax: no one will help you here since you don't run ubunut
[09:37] <asoare> ikonia: that's what a guy told me, that he changed his processor settings (only that) in the kernel and after that his machine worked way better (he had intel pentium m)
[09:37] <Daemonax> So does anyone know how to get apt-get or something to force through a package installation when a dep is missing?
[09:37] <ikonia> Daemonax: wols is correct, this isn't a gnusense channel
[09:37] <DistroJockey> srizz, basically  mv  is used to move or rename files (will rename it you give a different filename)
[09:37] <ikonia> asoare: that guy is talking nonsense
[09:37] <ikonia> asoare: what video card do you have
[09:37] <hawtsauce> is there an itunes alternitave for ubuntu
[09:38] <Daemonax> ikonia: that's irrelevant, the question is related to apt-get or similar tools.
[09:38] <wols_> hawtsauce: none that can connect to iTMS
[09:38] <ikonia> Daemonax: this isn't an apt support channel - it's an ubuntu channel
[09:38] <Daemonax> Ubuntu uses apt.
[09:38] <ikonia> Daemonax: please join the gnusense support resources, they are very good
[09:38] <hawtsauce> ok thanks
[09:38] <Lurkinson> Daemonax: no, the problem is with one of the packages you try to install
[09:38] <ikonia> Daemonax: your not using ubuntu
[09:38] <user__> ikonia, magnetron: I remember I have read that linux raid was the best solution in my case, and that I tried to set it up, but it might be possible that I didn't succeed and ended up in choosing the easier to set up but buggy bios raid.. How can I be 100% sure what type of raid do I use?
[09:38] <ikonia> Daemonax: please join the correct support resources, you'll find them very good
[09:38] <DistroJockey> srizz, you could put  .test  on the end instead of  .backup  as that might be clearer or make more sense to you
[09:38] <wols_> user__: linux software raid
[09:38] <Gault> Hello, can someone offer recommendations for Input method editors available specifically for simplified chinese? which is better?SCIM, UIM, FreeWNN, gcin, iiimf?
[09:38] <Daemonax> ikonia: I've already asked in the gNewSense channel.
[09:38] <ikonia> user__: it's not what your using now - its what you've used in the past
[09:39] <ikonia> Daemonax: great, so wait in there for a response
[09:39] <gluer_> hi all, is there any app for ubuntu that will let me view free web TV? im in Australia
[09:39] <Daemonax> This is simply a question about apt.
[09:39] <Daemonax> No-one knows the answer there, I've waited for 48 hours.
[09:39] <ikonia> Daemonax: no - its not, and this is not apt support - this is ubuntu
[09:39] <magnetron> user__: if you enter bios, you will probably see a list of RAID options. make sure RAID is DISABLED in BIOS
[09:39] <ikonia> Daemonax: then complain to gnusense support
[09:39] <srizz> DistroJockey: mv: missing destination file operand after `/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so/usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so.backup'
[09:39] <srizz> Try `mv --help' for more information.
[09:39] <zloog> If I setup samba sharing using the GUI in 8.04 where are my share settings saved? the /etc/samba/smb.conf doesnt mention my Video or Audio shared folders.
[09:39] <wols_> Daemonax: if I give you a hint, will you stop whining?
[09:39] <Daemonax> ignoring ikonia now too.
[09:39] <Huffameg> hi. can anyone help me with my problem: after a core update the volum buttons and the mute button on my computer seems to have "lost contact" with the volume. it does react in that I see a volume icon on the screen but no more.. my play, stop and skip buttons seems to be unaffected. i use a dell computer. ideas anyone?
[09:39] <DistroJockey> srizz, need a space after libjavaplugin.so
[09:39] <hawtsauce> gluer_, i dont know, try the live tv toolbar or run joost in WINE. i havent teried either but its worth a shot
[09:40] <runjorel> hey everyone, have a networking question: How can I add a second gateway to my nic?
[09:40] <Daemonax> So does anyone know how to get apt to force through a package installation when a dep is missing?
[09:40] <Chikubu> Huffameg: did you look if the mixer is set to the right device
[09:40] <user__> ikonia: I didn't change the raid config from the time when I set it up, nor in linux nor in the bios
[09:40] <rick111> hey friends, how do I restart services? ie. the network-manager service from terminal?
[09:40] <Huffameg> Chikubu: how do i do that?
[09:40] <gluer_> hawtsauce: ok cheers mate!
[09:40] <wols_> rick111: sudo /etc/init.d/<daemon> restart
[09:40] <hawtsauce> yw
[09:40] <ikonia> user__: has /dev/sda ever been in another machine
[09:40] <rick111> thanks friend
[09:41] <Chikubu> Huffameg: if you double click the volume control the full mixer (not just the volume slider) should open, then look under file change device
[09:41] <arda> h'
[09:41] <dwr> Daemonax, apt couldn't do what you want itself, you could only ignore deps when installing packages through 'dpkg' utility
[09:41] <spoon_man> daemonax, is the dependency missing from the repository, or is not on your system? because you should be able to get it with synaptic
[09:41] <zloog> h' rght back at you arda
[09:41] <nalioth> Daemonax: #gnewsense exists for your support questions
[09:42] <Huffameg> Chikubu: ok.. what should i choose? just try?
[09:42] <Daemonax> dwr: ah, thanks. That helps.
[09:42] <asoare> ikonia: geforce 8600 gt
[09:42] <Daemonax> spoon_man: it's missing from the repo, anyway, had my question answered. Thanks. :-)
[09:42] <DistroJockey> srizz, that will make it so that file isn't used. Restart FF and if it is still no good you can rename it back and hope someone else has more suggestions :)
[09:42] <user__> ikonia: If /dev/sda is my ide harddisk, yes. But it has been formatted when put in my new machine. And I had no problems with updates right after I put it in. The problem happens ca. 1 year later
[09:42] <wols_> asoare: are you using nvidia drivers?
[09:43] <Chikubu> Huffameg: well first just look at what its set too, usualy your sound device will be shown
[09:43] <asoare> wols_: yes, they were installed after the first boot
[09:43] <dwr> Daemonax, man dpkg | grep deps ;)
[09:43] <runjorel> I should rephrase my question: Is there a way to add a second gateway along with my default gateway on my nic OR do I have to setup a virtual nic (i.e eth0:1)
[09:43] <dwr> oups
[09:43] <wols_> asoare: glxinfo |grep direct   says yes?
[09:43] <ikonia> asoare: your using the ubuntu installed nvidia ones, or ones from nvidia.com
[09:43] <Huffameg> Chikubu: it was set to HDA intel
[09:44] <wols_> asoare: nvidia drivers for 8xxx cards supposedly have very bad 2D performance unedr linux
[09:44] <asoare> wols_: yes ikonia: ubuntu ones
[09:44] <ikonia> asoare: thats good.
[09:44] <srizz> DistroJockey: ok
[09:44] <ikonia> asoare: did you see wols_ command
[09:44] <asoare> ikonia: i answered yes
[09:44] <Chikubu> Huffameg: maybe try the alsamixer, open a terminal and type alsamixer use the up and down arrow keys to raise lower voluem
[09:44] <ikonia> asoare: I missed that, I assume it was that dri was ok
[09:45] <user__> ikonia, magnetron: I will reboot now in order to make sure BIOS raid is not activated, I'll be back in 5 minutes, thank you for you help
[09:45] <Solo_VCD> hi people
[09:45] <ikonia> wols_: is the 8600 supported in the glx-new package ?
[09:45] <ikonia> wols_: I can't see a doc to say it is
[09:45] <Solo_VCD> will someone help me with 8.04 hardy???
[09:45] <Huffameg> Chikubu: ok.. then what?
[09:46] <zloog> Solo_VCD: Ask your question pal,
[09:46] <wols_> ikonia: yes
[09:46] <wols_> sinec 16x approx it's supported
[09:46] <Chikubu> see if it changes the volume
[09:46] <Solo_VCD> ok.  I installed updates (i guess a new kernel?) and it broke my VMware.
[09:48] <ozkelligirl> hi there you all
[09:48] <Solo_VCD> the chip is >>> AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter
[09:48] <Dranik> hi all
[09:48] <phist> then i upgraded 7.10 -> 8.04
[09:48] <wols_> phist: depends how you installed vmware exactly
[09:48] <Huffameg> Chikubu: i can change the volume with my slider as well.. but it seems to be disconnected from my volume buttons (on the computer)
[09:48] <wols_> Solo_VCD: madwifi
[09:48] <Huffameg> Chikubu: even though it reacts to me pushing them..
[09:48] <phist> from a depository
[09:48] <Chikubu> Huffameg, ohhh its the keyboard volume
[09:48] <Dranik> May be anybody happens to know where I could download applets and themes for Avant Window Manager?
[09:48] <wols_> phist: then apt-get remove it (and purge too) like any other package
[09:48] <Huffameg> Chikubu: yes, sorry..