[09:44] <Braindead> geokok: define messed
[09:44] <compengi> LjL, how do i update my nvidia driver?
[09:44] <Seveas> geokok, iptables -F
[09:44] <kingace> thanks
[09:44] <proof> why do people write it !automatix?
[09:44] <proof> with the ! sign?
[09:44] <geokok> I run a script to get ekiga to work..since then no internet at all
[09:44] <WiseOdd> any1 want to help sb who regrettably still is a linux noob? I cant figure out how to gain write acces to my system... I had it written in a file, but me system crashed, so i lost the file :(
[09:44] <Braindead> Seveas: bad suggestion. he'd better set ACCEPT default policies...
[09:44] <Seveas> proof, tomake ubotu tellyou thatyou should not use that piece ofcrap ;)
[09:44] <ianmacgregor> proof: That triggers the bot (ubotu) to print a factoid about it
[09:45] <ianmacgregor> Seveas: hahaha
[09:45] <Yako2> WiseOdd: use sudo
[09:45] <Em3rald> Seveas:  is there a better way to install Flash plugins for the non-guru?
[09:45] <geokok> the script was at the ekiga official documentation
[09:45] <Braindead> Em3rald: aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:45] <Seveas> Em3rald, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:45] <LjL> proof: the user called "Ubotu", which is in this channel, is not a person but a bot. it's a machine that responds to commands. commands for Ubotu start with a "!".
[09:45] <WiseOdd> Yako2: i would,but how do i enable the system to ordinary users? I run as standard user most of the time...
[09:46] <NeoThermic> Em3rald: so you're saying that if I opt to manually edit the partition tables, I should be able to select RFS3?
[09:46] <LjL> PSUSI: no, nothing like that in my xorg.conf
[09:46] <PSUSI> Seveas: hey... got any idea what could cause emacs and gitk to complain that they can't look up the color 'black' when it is clearly defined in /etc/X11/rgb.txt?  this is since upgrading a server to dapper
[09:46] <Yako2> WiseOdd: you can do that by chrooting every file to your user, but that isnt recommended
[09:46] <Seveas> PSUSI, you're using XGL
[09:46] <PSUSI> LjL: yea... me neither... checked the xorg logs and it says it defaults to /etc/X11/rgb
[09:46] <compengi> variant, how do i update my nvidia driver
[09:46] <Em3rald> NeoThermic:  Well, I am only going from experience, and when I did it with the alternative install CD, (I think it was), I had the option.
[09:46] <Yako2> its recommended to just use sudo
[09:46] <geokok> Seveas should I go with iptables -F??
[09:47] <PSUSI> XGL?
[09:47] <Seveas> geokok, that's part of the solution
[09:47] <Em3rald> Seveas:  Does that plugin installation also work for Opera?  I have flash in Opera now, but I don't remember how I did it LOL/
[09:47] <Yako2> Does anyone know how to get my Intel PRO/Wireless to work?
[09:47] <Seveas> Em3rald, no
[09:47] <Yako2> I'm missing an eth1 interface
[09:47] <PSUSI> Seveas: ohh no... definately nothing fancy like that... just running.... oh wait...  If France blows up, you know why ;)
[09:48] <WiseOdd> Yako2: chrooting wouldnt be a problem, bcause im only talking about the secondary partition, not the system partition...
[09:48] <PSUSI> did it change locations since breezy?
[09:48] <PSUSI> hrm... weird..
[09:48] <Chmd> anyone give me a hand please?
[09:48] <Em3rald> NeoThermic:  Okiedokie ... good luck!
[09:48] <Seveas> yes
[09:48] <PSUSI> aha
[09:48] <Yako2> wiseodd: open a terminal and type chroot
[09:48] <Em3rald> (mind you ... how much would the world miss france?)
[09:48] <Yako2> it'll show you how
[09:48] <silox> o_O another problem now :) when i try to start Americans Army the consol prompts /dev/[sound/] dsp: not found :/
[09:48] <geokok> so how do I reset pike_
[09:48] <geokok> ?
[09:48] <PSUSI> Seveas: btw... why is the rgb.txt not compiled into the fast binary version?
[09:49] <WiseOdd> Yako2: but ill do that :) thx for da help :) ill probably be back soon....
[09:49] <Chmd> ive installed nvidia drivers 8776 on a fresh install everything is fine till i reboot
[09:49] <ZirJoker> !games
[09:49] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:49] <o_O> silox, well did the other sound card create a /dev/dsp or something equivalent? I'm not sure about USB sound cards
[09:49] <Chmd> when i reboot and try to go into x i get an error saying searching for nvidia kernel module 7174 when I have 8776?
[09:49] <Yako2> wiseodd: use chuid
[09:49] <Yako2> not chroot
[09:50] <Yako2> my bad
[09:50] <silox> o_O i really dont know :/
[09:50] <Seveas> !-games
[09:50] <ubotu> games aliases: nexuiz, wow, warcraft, et, fun, doom, doom3 - added by Seveas on 2006-06-19 14:02:03
[09:50] <cainlevy> LjL: sorry, i lost my connection to #ubuntu ... did you have any ideas that i missed?
[09:50] <Seveas> !games =~ s/$/ and ubuntugames.org/
[09:50] <ubotu> I'll remember that, Seveas
[09:50] <Chmd> anyone?
[09:50] <Qaldune> hi
[09:50] <LjL> cainlevy: well, you said that nslookup worked... try this one "nslookup www.google.com <IP_ADDRESS>"
[09:50] <cainlevy> LjL: last i knew we'd verified that nslookup works
[09:50] <silox> o_O no cant see anything in /dev/
[09:50] <Vornotron> So there's the screensaver "molecule" - are there add-on packs?  The default selection is... limited.
[09:51] <Seveas> silox, /dev is empty?
[09:51] <LjL> cainlevy: that IP address is a DNS server that i know is up. i'm trying to see if an *external* DNS server works
[09:51] <cainlevy> LjL: that works
[09:51] <o_O> o_O, do you know if its working at all?
[09:51] <silox> Seveas no but no dsp
[09:51] <geokok> how can i get ekiga to work if port forward doesnt help?
[09:51] <LjL> cainlevy: hmm.
[09:51] <Seveas> silox, do you get sound from eg a music player?
[09:51] <pike_> geokok: im not too familiar but what seveas said like sudo iptables -F; sudo iptables -X; sudo iptables -P INPUT ACEPT; sudo iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT; sudo iptables FORWARD ACCEPT would work i think
[09:52] <Seveas> pike_, that sounds about right
[09:52] <Seveas> unlesshe messedwith his other tables that should do it ;)
[09:52] <silox> Seveas no when i checked now it didnt work actually :/
[09:52] <LjL> cainlevy: i don't know where dhclient logs its stuff, since i'm on a static address, but... perhaps look at /var/log/whatever and see if the DHCP has, by any chance, leased a new address right when things stopped working?
[09:52] <compengi> how do i update my nvidia driver?
[09:52] <Seveas> silox, does this commandgive any output: lsmod | grep snd
[09:52] <Chmd> anyone??????
[09:52] <Seveas> !nvidia > compengi
[09:53] <compengi> Seveas, can't i just run an update?
[09:53] <Chmd> Alakazamz0r: are you there?
[09:53] <Seveas> not yet
[09:53] <Alakazamz0r> whats up
[09:53] <Seveas> official ubuntu updates will happen next week
[09:53] <Chmd> umm
[09:53] <geokok> thanks seveas and pike. I ll try and will let u know.
[09:53] <silox> Seveas
[09:53] <Chmd> i reinstalled ubuntu
[09:53] <Chmd> did all updates
[09:53] <silox> snd_usb_audio          78880  2
[09:53] <silox> snd_pcm_oss            46080  0
[09:54] <Chmd> downloaded 8776 nvidia drivers
[09:54] <silox> snd_mixer_oss          18560  1 snd_pcm_oss
[09:54] <pike_> geokok: there were severy mistypes there but you get the idea :) iptables -P something ACCEPT
[09:54] <silox> snd_pcm                80520  3 snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_oss
[09:54] <njal_> !grub
[09:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:54] <Chmd> everything is fine till i reboot
[09:54] <Seveas> Chmd, after a kernel update you'll hav to reinstall nvidia
[09:54] <Chmd> upon reboot it complains about nvidia-kernel module 7174 when i have 8776
[09:54] <Seveas> so you now have to reinstall nvidia
[09:54] <Chmd> hmm i have
[09:54] <Chmd> ill try again
[09:55] <silox__> still there?
[09:55] <proof> how can you watch videos on firefox if you need the wmp plugin?
[09:55] <BooBar> it dosent work
[09:56] <Seveas> proof, mozilla-mplayer + w32codecs
[09:56] <silox__> did u see my output?
[09:56] <NeoThermic> ok, if I allocate a 20GB drive in terms of a 1GB ext3 and 17GB resiserfs, ubuntu will use that correctly for swap and root respecticly, yes?
[09:56] <proof> seveas can you link me to that please
[09:56] <Seveas> !mplayer > proof
[09:56] <Seveas> !w32codecs > proof
[09:56] <Hendikins> Doesn't do much good if it requires scripting WMP or does detection of WMP :-)
[09:56] <silox__> Seveas did u see my output?
[09:57] <Hendikins> (in which case you basically get stuck with CrossOver + WMP itself, or WINE)
[09:57] <ianmacgregor> silox__: Oh, he saw it ;)
[09:57] <cainlevy> LjL: can't find anything in the logs
[09:57] <silox__> ianmacgregor hehe ;)
[09:57] <ifrozen> hi
[09:57] <pike_> NeoThermic: you want the 1G partition as swap?
[09:58] <NeoThermic> yes
[09:58] <KenSentMe> How do i open window 11 and 12 in irssi?
[09:58] <LjL> cainlevy: look in /var/log/syslog... you should have at least some lines like    /var/log/syslog:Oct 23 19:29:51 ljlhead dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67
[09:58] <NeoThermic> the laptop suffers at this moment in time from a stupid lack of RAM (256), so I wish to make sure swap is sufficent.
[09:58] <leakd>  oops.
[09:58] <NeoThermic> Although, is 1G a bit excessive?
[09:58] <ianmacgregor> KenSentMe: ALT+q and ALT+w
[09:58] <silox__> What should i do to get my AUDIO to work?? Please, someone
[09:58] <iter> NeoThermic: 2x your ram is a good ballpark
[09:59] <NeoThermic> heh, that'd only be 512M
[09:59] <pike_> NeoThermic: you would select swap then not ext3 unless you wanted to make like a swapfile or something.  i never touch swap much and use 256mb but i guess it might depend on your situation
[09:59] <aoupi> hi, anyone know how to be 2 users at the same terminal? (ytalk isn't doing it)
[09:59] <iter> if you have the extra space though, and plan to upgrade ram in the future....
[09:59] <PSUSI> imho 1x your ram is more than sufficient
[09:59] <LjL> cainlevy: besides, one thing i'd try, personally, would be to just power off the machine, wait a couple of minutes, power it on, and see when happens when/if i get a new DHCP lease on a different address ;-)
[09:59] <NeoThermic> pike_: ah, there's a swap option
[09:59] <clarkbaumgartner> Ok, so: My sound stopped working. Whenever i would do anything sound related ubuntu would tell me that certain Gstreamer or alsa plugins were missing. The people on the forums told me I should use the package manager to reinstall everything relating to those two, then restart. Nothing happened. They then told me 'completely remove' all Gstreamer and Alsa stuff then reinstall all of them. Now when I turn my computer on
[09:59] <NeoThermic> I'll make it 768M
[09:59] <NeoThermic> and see how that goes
[10:00] <NeoThermic> the option for swap is linux-swap, right, I'm not being silly in selecting that?
[10:01] <Chmd> Ok Alakazamz0r i have reinstalled the drivers and everything is fine right now but after I reboot I will have the same problem so I will check that out
[10:01] <Chmd> brb
[10:01] <Chmd> :)
[10:01] <Alakazamz0r> ko chm
[10:01] <iter> NeoThermic: yep swap
[10:01] <Alakazamz0r> ko chad
[10:01] <NeoThermic> right
[10:01] <ryanakca> anybody have a link on booting from CD... bios...
[10:01] <NeoThermic> here goes nothing
[10:02] <NeoThermic> worst-case, I just have to do this again :)
[10:02] <pike_> ryanakca: what laptop manufacturer?
[10:02] <DrBanzai> Is there a good How-To on setting up syslog to log for remote systems?
[10:02] <pike_> ryanakca: or desktop i guess
[10:02] <ryanakca> pike_: dunno, this guy has an intel... and it's 'DELETE' to get into bios
[10:03] <Seveas> proof, stop dccing me
[10:04] <ryanakca> pike_:  I explained to him the idea, and I'm hoping it'll work, he's testing it now, but if it doesn't, I want to have a link :)
[10:04] <cainlevy> LjL: still combing the log files for something suspicious ... we did reboot once, but didn't leave it off for very long
[10:04] <cainlevy> LjL: sounds like a windows fix ;)
[10:04] <tuxtux> ciao a tutti
[10:04] <Seveas> !it
[10:04] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:04] <aoupi> anyone know of a way to multiplayer ssh :) I need to be able to use the same terminal as another person simultaniously
[10:04] <Braindead> aoupi: screen
[10:04] <LjL> Seveas: useless. this guy always says "ciao a tutti" when he joins and when he leaves. tried to tell him a few times...
[10:05] <Seveas> ah
[10:05] <nuked_omen> aoupi: su
[10:05] <Seveas> automessages are bannable
[10:05] <nuked_omen> su user
[10:05] <aoupi> Braindead: can I be 2 users in that, awsome
[10:05] <digit_> so, when gnome starts, the application font is too small. if i open up the fonts dialog, change nothing, and close it, they return to normal....
[10:05] <marcrosoft> when i try to do a apt-get install -f i get the following error corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[10:05] <aoupi> nuked_omen: no 2 different people at the same time :)
[10:05] <Seveas> hmm, dynamic ip
[10:05] <marcrosoft> Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:05] <aoupi> nuked_omen: ssh'ing to the same puter
[10:05] <nuked_omen> ok
[10:05] <marcrosoft>  /var/cache/apt/archives/eclipse-pde_3.2.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:05] <Lightenix> anyone knows how to fix apt-get if i deleted some files by hand?:P
[10:06] <marcrosoft> last time i cleared it with dpkg --clear-avail ... but that isn't working this time
[10:06] <Seveas> Lightenix, depends on which files
[10:06] <nuked_omen> i got a command that will run photoshop under ubunut, when i put this command in a luncher icon, it does not excute
[10:06] <Lightenix> mmm well i deleted all files that were found by locate eclipse
[10:06] <ryanakca> pike_:  northern micro
[10:06] <Seveas> apt-get install --reinstall eclipse
[10:06] <nuked_omen> it says failed to excute child process WINEDLLOVERRIDES=wintab32=n
[10:07] <compengi> Seveas, is linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-386 the newest one for i386 system?
[10:07] <silox> Finally some success! Now i got the USB card to work in the OS, i can play music etc. but it still shows the dev/dsp/audio error when i try to start Americas Army (no sound), whats whrong??
[10:07] <Seveas> compengi, it's the generic metapackage for dapper
[10:07] <compengi> Seveas, how do i check my kernel version?
[10:07] <nuked_omen> silox: what program?
[10:07] <Braindead> aoupi: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/14/1945249
[10:08] <Lightenix> no it is not working, it says this: Nap http://si.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe eclipse 3.1.2-1ubuntu6
[10:08] <Lightenix>   Zaasna napaka pri razreevanju 'si.archive.ubuntu.com'
[10:08] <Seveas> compengi, uname -r
[10:08] <silox> nuked_omen Americans Army armyops
[10:08] <Lightenix> which means like temporary error or smthing at 'si.archive.ubuntu.com'
[10:08] <nuked_omen> that's like a name for a movie
[10:08] <DeZusa> I've added two DNS servers in the Network Connections, but Ubuntu keeps erasing them now and again and re-adding the default one. This causes my connection to die. What can I do?`
[10:08] <Chmd> ok Alakazamz0r here is the error I get when I reboot http://pastebin.ca/217736
[10:09] <ryanakca> anybody have a link on booting from CD... Northern Micro, BIOS...
[10:09] <Chmd> if you dont mind lookin at it
[10:09] <Chmd> that is
[10:09] <pike_> ryanakca: no telling really. ive found non-tech people do pretty good editing bios as long as they have you on the phone and can say "i see this.. is that right?"
[10:09] <Seveas> DeZusa, fix your dhcp server
[10:09] <ryanakca> kk
[10:09] <nuked_omen> it's hard to get help when people who need help is a lot more than people who help
[10:09] <silox> nuked_omen no its a game, free and avaible for Linux :)
[10:09] <LjL> cainlevy: yeah but then we're trying to fix something that, imho, is not the computer's problem, but something on the network... by the way, is the switch you said you're under just a switch, or a router? and you said you had access to some router -- can you force it to lease a new IP address?
[10:09] <nuked_omen> are*
[10:09] <DeZusa> Seveas: are there settings for that?
[10:09] <Lightenix> DeZusa: it worked for me, that i wrote right dns names, and then installed resolvconf
[10:09] <DeZusa> or rather, where do I find them?
[10:10] <nuked_omen> silox: do 'killall /dev/dsp' and try again
[10:10] <silox> yes
[10:10] <silox> nuked_omen okay
[10:10] <compengi> Seveas, my kernel version is 2.6.15-27-386 but i can't find linux-restricted-modules for this kernel version it latest is 2.6.15-26-386 , what should i do?
[10:10] <compengi> Seveas, my kernel version is 2.6.15-27-386 but i can't find linux-restricted-modules for this kernel version the latest is 2.6.15-26-386 , what should i do?*
[10:10] <silox> nuked_omen /dev/dsp cant find...
[10:10] <DeZusa> Lightenix; what's resolvconf?
[10:11] <nuked_omen> silox: try 'killall dsp'
[10:11] <T`2> anyone know if ubuntu edgy release on schedule for 26th?
[10:11] <silox> nuked_omen no process ended
[10:11] <cainlevy> LjL: we're both connected to the same 10/100 switch which then plugins into the wall, gets switched another couple of times (i think), and hits our public router. i'm checking for a way to view connected computers or force a dhcp renewal...
[10:11] <Seveas> T`2, #ubuntu+1
[10:11] <nuked_omen> silox: ok.. what's the command to play the game?
[10:11] <silox> nuked_omen gamefolder ./armyops
[10:12] <T`2> Seveas, thanks
[10:12] <nuked_omen> silox: type 'aoss ./armyops'
[10:12] <silox> nuked_omen okay
[10:12] <hoze_> I have a Belkin USB wireless card.  When booted with the Live CD i'm not connected to the network.  Will it work once installed properly?
[10:12] <Distro^Junkie> silox, what version of americas army ?
[10:12] <compengi> Seveas, so?
[10:13] <silox> nuked_omen cant find aoss
[10:13] <silox> Distro^Junkie 2.1.0
[10:13] <Seveas> !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386
[10:13] <ubotu> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386: Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules on 386. In component restricted, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-5 (dapper), package size 7946 kB, installed size 21580 kB
[10:13] <Distro^Junkie> wow that's old
[10:13] <Seveas> compengi, it exists - check your sources.list
[10:13] <nuked_omen> silox: i assume you're not on ubuntu
[10:14] <silox> Distro^Junkie hehe couldnt find anything newer for linux
[10:14] <compengi> Seveas, i can't find it in repos =/
[10:14] <Distro^Junkie> and you won't as they are not working on linux anymore
[10:14] <Alakazamz0r> looking chad
[10:14] <silox> nuked_omen i am on ubuntu now
[10:14] <greenman> hello.  I'm going to be new to ubuntu, and i was wondering.  Is it pretty simple, or complicated to setup ubuntu to be 64bit native, but allow you to run 32 bit apps?
[10:14] <Distro^Junkie> you could try using wine and getting the latest version of AAO
[10:14] <Seveas> greenman, not too simple
[10:14] <compengi> Seveas, i see only 686 and k7 =/
[10:15] <Seveas> compengi, if ubotu says it exists, then it exists ;)
[10:15] <greenman> Seveas: hmm...  do you get noticable improvement running 64?  or should i just make it be 32?
[10:15] <hoze_> How would I go about installing a USB network adapter with ubuntu?
[10:15] <nuked_omen> silox: hmm, i don't know how to solve your problem, i don't know much but that's what i do to get pretty much anything working
[10:15] <chuckyp> Distro^Junkie, does aao have a linux version?
[10:15] <nuked_omen> anyone else knows?
[10:15] <Seveas> greenman, depends on what you do
[10:15] <compengi> Seveas, i totaly agree, but should i do to have it :D
[10:15] <silox> nuked_omen okay thx for the help anyway
[10:15] <nuked_omen> np
[10:15] <compengi> Seveas, i totaly agree, but what should i do to have it :D*
[10:16] <greenman> Seveas: this box just sits there and serves web pages.  and does a little bit of mailing.
[10:16] <cainlevy> LjL: we're trying the shutdown. i'm going to grab lunch ... be back in 10. thanks for helping thus far.
[10:16] <silox> Distro^Junkie do u think that it could help if i reinstall AA?
[10:16] <Seveas> compengi, point your sources.list to the base archive
[10:16] <Distro^Junkie> chuckyp, the last version they made of linux was 2.5
[10:16] <compengi> Seveas, okay 1min
[10:16] <greenman> Seveas: i want to run BOINC so it can fold protiens, but they refuse to recompile a 64bit version of thier app
[10:16] <Seveas> greenman, then go32bit
[10:16] <Lightenix> soo anyone knows how to fix that apt-get? it wont even apt-get update :X
[10:17] <Seveas> Lightenix, point your sources.list to another mirror
[10:17] <greenman> Seveas: cool.  and setup, is it pretty simple?  I remember back in the day, there were a few hoops you had to jump through, but that was at least two years ago.
[10:17] <Chmd> mother of pearl has anyone received this error??? http://pastebin.ca/217736
[10:17] <compengi> !source list
[10:17] <Seveas> greenman, it's insanely easy ;)
[10:17] <Seveas> !sources.list | compengi
[10:17] <ubotu> compengi: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:18] <Alakazamz0r> chad, http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#head-83b2f9b8c18db15e641ed9e0be8f9a8364001e5b
[10:18] <wikijeff> Is there a way to startx in recovery mode as a user without root privileges?
[10:18] <greenman> Seveas: should I get the Desktop or the Server version?  I'm thinking Server, so I don't have to configure LAMP seperately...
[10:18] <LjL> cainlevy: i suggest you also try a UDP service... can't think of one that's easy to test though, right now. well, besides DNS, but we know that one works
[10:19] <Seveas> greenman, sounds like a plan
[10:19] <Dr_willis> wikijeff,  if you are in rescue mode logged in as root. use startx
[10:19] <greenman> Seveas: thanks for the help btw.
[10:19] <LjL> cainlevy: (by the way, ping uses the ICMP protocol, which is neither TCP nor UDP)
[10:19] <hoze_> Ok, i'm guessing no one uses a USB device.  In that case, can anyone recommend a decent wireless card for use with Ubuntu?
[10:19] <pike_> Chmd: you recently did apt-get update or something?
[10:20] <greenman> Seveas: one more question.  i have config files from gentoo and they are kinda convoluted, is ubuntu apache broken up into sections or one httpd.conf?
[10:20] <Chmd> yes i did
[10:20] <wikijeff> Dr_willis, is rescue mode the same as recovery mode?
[10:20] <Seveas> hoze_, anything with intel or atheros chip on a pci or pcmcia card
[10:20] <Chmd> anyway to fix it? LOL
[10:20] <compengi> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28005/
[10:20] <Seveas> greenman, ubuntu apache config is a dream
[10:20] <pike_> Chmd: did you use the nvidia install.sh or did you install via apt-get nvidia-glx?
[10:20] <Chmd> nvidia installer
[10:20] <greenman> Seveas: :)
[10:21] <pike_> Chmd: every time you update and kernel changes youll have to redo the installer if you dont use apt-get i believe
[10:21] <Dr_willis> wikijeff,  its booting to single user mode.. they just use silly names for them
[10:21] <wikijeff> Dr_willis, ok thanks
[10:21] <greenman> Seveas: hah, one more question I guess.  which is faster, plain file or torrent?
[10:21] <Chmd> i have redone the installer and it works fine till i reboot when I reboot I get that error pasted in pastebin
[10:21] <joshier> Could someone please confirm if the MSN network is down?... it signs on (JUST) and I only have one person online
[10:21] <Seveas> greenman, depends on your luck
[10:22] <greenman> Seveas: oh?  hmm...  I have a 4M pipe, does that make a difference?
[10:22] <spdf> joshier, fine here
[10:23] <Seveas> greenman, try the normal download
[10:23] <compengi> Seveas, ?
[10:23] <LjL> Seveas, HTTP is faster, if you use axel and download from two US mirrors and 4 EU mirrors at the same time ;-P
[10:23] <greenman> okay.  :)
[10:23] <Seveas> bittorent is initially slower
[10:23] <joshier> /spdf\: thanks, I'm attempting to use www.meebo.com now
[10:23] <Seveas> before bittorrent speeds up, your fatpipe already downloaded the iso
[10:24] <Braindead> bittorrent is better on a morality level
[10:24] <joshier> /spdf\: what MSN client are you using?.. I use Gaim
[10:24] <spdf> joshier, Gaim here
[10:24] <oslo> By default, `make install' will install the package's files in`/usr/local/bin', `/usr/local/man', etc.; where is it on kubuntu ???
[10:25] <compengi> Seveas, have you got my source list?
[10:25] <Seveas> compengi, no
[10:25] <oslo> joshier amsn
[10:25] <compengi> O.o
[10:25] <Braindead> oslo: by default you don't make install nothing on ubuntu.
[10:25] <compengi> i pasted
[10:25] <compengi> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28005/
[10:25] <Seveas> compengi, plf isdead, you should remove it
[10:26] <Seveas> apart fromthat it looks ok
[10:26] <BIRDB> Has anyone ever used ASTERISK VOPU?
[10:26] <BIRDB> VOIP*
[10:26] <compengi> Seveas, what's plf?
[10:26] <Seveas> BIRDB, easy on the caps kthxbye
[10:26] <greenman> hmm...  Server install doesn't install a GUI?
[10:26] <Seveas> compengi, 20. deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf dapper free non-free
[10:26] <Seveas> greenman, correct
[10:26] <greenman> is it pretty easy to do?
[10:26] <Seveas> yes
[10:26] <Braindead> greenman: do servers need gui?
[10:26] <Seveas> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:26] <Seveas> and you have a desktop
[10:26] <oslo> Braindead> i need to install ftp monitor [ http://queens.db.toronto.edu/~nilesh/linux/ftpmonitor/?w=download ]  but after make install all seems ok, but no way to find it, i'm lost
[10:27] <greenman> Braindead: technically no, but I like it.
[10:27] <joshier> How do I add an exception to firefox for a popup?
[10:27] <iter> BIRDB: there is an asterisk distro if you want to play with it
[10:27] <Braindead> oslo: check the makefile
[10:27] <compengi> Seveas, i only remove it?
[10:27] <Braindead> oslo: or use checkinstall
[10:27] <iter> BIRDB: also a vmware appliance
[10:27] <Seveas> compengi, yup
[10:27] <greenman> Seveas: cool, so you use apt-get for installing stuff?  kinda like emerge in gentoo?
[10:27] <Seveas> yup
[10:27] <pike_> greenman: you want a minimal desktop or gnome? your easy options are xubuntu ubuntu kubuntu
[10:27] <Braindead> greenman: might as well use aptitude from the start,instead of apt-get
[10:28] <Music_Shuffle> joshier, to allow popups for a specific site?
[10:28] <greenman> aptitude?
[10:28] <Seveas> Braindead, aptitude is slower and no longer has any advantages
[10:28] <Braindead> Seveas: that's plain FUD
[10:28] <cainlevy> LjL: back. after that reboot he can't ping anymore, and his ifconfig shows ipv6 addresses instead of ipv4. does that make the problem more or less obvious? :)
[10:28] <compengi> Seveas, i have it installed :D
[10:28] <Braindead>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/04/msg03138.html
[10:28] <greenman> pike_: i'm used to using kde, but i like like the way gnome looks.  i heard the new kde is supposed to be good, but it's not done yet is it?
[10:28] <Seveas> Braindead, that's 2004...
[10:28] <Seveas> apt-get evolved...
[10:28] <BIRDB> iter where can I get these?
[10:28] <nuked_omen> i need to create a launcher that will excute a command.. how is this possible?
[10:29] <Ackart-The-Fox> If I install the x64 version of Ubuntu, will I have an especially hard time finding drivers for all my devices?
[10:29] <nuked_omen> i created one and it says Details: Failed to execute child process "WINEDLLOVERRIDES=wintab32=n"
[10:29] <Braindead> Seveas: that's still better than plain shitty apt-get
[10:29] <compengi> Seveas, so according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia i should only install nvidia-glx-legacy right? if i don't want to compile anything
[10:29] <nuked_omen> why did Braindead leave
[10:29] <greenman> nuked_omen: he swore
[10:29] <LjL> Seveas, i think aptitude still has advantages at least until you install edgy...?
[10:29] <Seveas> nuked_omen, Imadehim leave for swearing
[10:30] <nuked_omen> so what
[10:30] <greenman> edgy?
[10:30] <Seveas> LjL, true
[10:30] <nuked_omen> don't you swear sometimes
[10:30] <LjL> !edgy > greenman
[10:30] <LjL> !language > nuked_omen
[10:30] <cyber> !language
[10:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:30] <chuckyp> greenman, #ubuntu+1
[10:30] <Braindead> wtf ?
[10:30] <nuked_omen> he was saying his opinios
[10:30] <pike_> greenman: i dont know. havent followed either of the big environments i use either xubuntu (xfce) or flux normally
[10:30] <nuked_omen> opinion*
[10:30] <oslo> Braindead> here is my makefile, i cant find where it is ..pleaz help
[10:30] <Seveas> nuked_omen, you don't need to swear for that
[10:30] <cyber> its his opinion but language is still to be monitored :P
[10:30] <chuckyp> Braindead, you have to watch you language in here.
[10:30] <Braindead> Seveas: get aptitude-doc-en. and read it. or at least stop spreading FUD
[10:30] <Braindead> chuckyp: which word?
[10:31] <greenman> i had a very minimal one a long time ago, is that flux?
[10:31] <Seveas> Braindead, stop being soagressive
[10:31] <Music_Shuffle> Flux is kinda minimal.
[10:31] <Braindead> is "bullshit" politically incorrect?
[10:31] <chuckyp> lol
[10:31] <cyber> Braindead, abbreviations count as swearing... just all be happy and keep language out of it :"P
[10:31] <pike_> greenman: possibly. id install xubuntu-desktop first then if you dont like it you can always instlall ubuntu or kubuntu
[10:31] <Music_Shuffle> ...lol
[10:31] <cainlevy> LjL: so there he was, depressed and contemplating just reinstalling windows, when his connection started working again. no idea what changed.
[10:31] <cyber> thanks Seveas
[10:32] <Music_Shuffle> cainlevy, pondering Windows is what did it.
[10:32] <greenman> ah, i remember.  i had blackbox.  so, I think i'd like flux
[10:32] <compengi> Seveas, so?
[10:32] <cainlevy> Music_Shuffle: yeah, ubuntu's getting smart these days ... "oh no, he's going to switch? ok, i'll play nice!" ;)
[10:32] <chuckyp> greenman, well you could install blackbox
[10:32] <Music_Shuffle> XD
[10:32] <chuckyp> greenman, xfce is antoher one too.
[10:33] <Music_Shuffle> What differences exist between Ubuntu and XFCE?
[10:33] <nuked_omen> !stuff
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stuff - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <Music_Shuffle> They seem to be nearly the same. >.>
[10:33] <Flannel> Music_Shuffle: You mean the difference between gnome and xfce?
[10:33] <nuked_omen> the window manager is different
[10:33] <LjL> cainlevy: well, one thing - perhaps disable ipv6 for a start, unless you need it. i've heard it has caused problems before, don't know exactly why, possibly because things ended up being routed through it rather than through ipv4... or whatever. anyway, /etc/network/interfaces and make it go away is my suggestion
[10:33] <Lightenix> nope i think it is not working
[10:33] <Lightenix> well
[10:34] <Music_Shuffle> .Sigh. Right.
[10:34] <CarinArr> greenman, you'll want fluxbox.. it's more or less the same, but is still being developped
[10:34] <Lightenix> any hints how to delete in apt-get all settings or set them to default value?
[10:34] <cainlevy> LjL: will do. thanks much.
[10:34] <Flannel> Music_Shuffle: xfce uses gnome libraries, but it's more lightweight
[10:34] <pike_> greenman: fluxbox with windowmaker apps and a decent theme is pretty nice
[10:34] <nuked_omen> this room is full of newbies.. even people who help are
[10:34] <Plecebo> anyone here who might be able to help me with a dmraid problem i'm having?
[10:34] <greenman> sounds like a plan, and fluxbox is xubuntu?
[10:34] <Seveas> Flannel, xfce doesn'tusegnomelibraries
[10:34] <Flannel> Lightenix: of a package? the --purge option
[10:34] <CarinArr> greenman, er no i don't think so
[10:34] <greenman> pike_: windowmaker apps?
[10:34] <nuked_omen> rtfm people
[10:34] <Seveas> Flannel, it uses gtk, and avoids all gnomelobs
[10:34] <Seveas> libs*
[10:34] <compengi> Seveas, after i have done what's written on that site i ran the command given i got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28007/
[10:34] <chuckyp> greenman, No I dont' believe fluxbox is in xubuntu
[10:35] <greenman> CarinArr: oh.  hmm...  i guess I'll play with it after i get it all installed
[10:35] <Seveas> !flubox
[10:35] <Flannel> Seveas: ah, right. gtk != gnome.
[10:35] <Seveas> !fluxbox
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flubox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[10:35] <CarinArr> greenman, you can just install the fluxbox package on a normal ubuntu install and choose fluxbox from the sessions at login
[10:35] <BIRDB> Does anyone know any good keyloggers that I can use to monitor my kids that work on ubuntu linux?
[10:35] <nuked_omen> !life
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:35] <Seveas> compengi, manually change nv to nvidia in xorg.conf
[10:35] <chuckyp> greenman, just do a server install then add whatever wm you want later
[10:35] <pike_> greenman: xubuntu is xfce but it might be best to install xubuntu and then fluxbox and choose between at login
[10:35] <Seveas> nuked_omen, stopplaying with the bot
[10:35] <nuked_omen> yeah, it's obvious you don't know anything about life.. you're a bot
[10:36] <nuked_omen> !me
[10:36] <assasukasse> hi all
[10:36] <chuckyp> greenman, server install will not install a window manager then you could just sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[10:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:36] <assasukasse> if i want to build a module
[10:36] <nuked_omen> Seveas: why? it's fun
[10:36] <PSUSI> BIRDB: yes... sit behind them and observe
[10:36] <assasukasse> should i install kernel headers or kernel source
[10:36] <Music_Shuffle> Y'know..some people might actually need..help.
[10:36] <iter> BIRDB: the distro is trixbox, at trixbox.org
[10:36] <iter> BIRDB: and the appliance is at http://serge.mankovski.com/voip/asteriskhome-25-vmware
[10:36] <greenman> oh, yeah.  one more question.  which is better as far as making them play well together?  ubuntu first then windows, or windows then ubuntu?
[10:36] <tamacracker> Hey guys?... quick yes or no question, does GIMP have downloadable filters/plugins?
[10:36] <jeeves_Moss> all:  does anyone know of a good simple program to merge a large number of small PCAP files into one large one?
[10:36] <Seveas> tamacracker, ys
[10:36] <Seveas> greenman, windows first, otherwise windows will destroy grub
[10:37] <Studiosus> jeeves_Moss, bash + cat?
[10:37] <LjL> tamacracker: enable universe, and then type "apt-cache search gimp plug"
[10:37] <thcrw8383> No!
[10:37] <greenman> Seveas: cool.
[10:37] <tamacracker> Seveas, last question... does our package manager have them listed? Or do we need to independently download them?
[10:37] <Stork> how do i configure a screensaver??
[10:37] <greenman> thanks a lot everyone
[10:37] <compengi> Seveas, i did the editing, and ran again the command i got the same result
[10:37] <iter> BIRDB: ah looks like trixbox now has a vmware app too
[10:37] <tamacracker> LjL beautiful, thank you :D
[10:37] <Seveas> tamacracker, the latter
[10:37] <pike_> Stork: xscreensaver-demo
[10:37] <LjL> tamacracker: of course there are a lot more that aren't packaged, though
[10:37] <tamacracker> thank you too Seveas :D
[10:37] <jeeves_Moss> Studiosus:  hummm, I'm a n00b, so I need something simple.  I was going to use Etheral, but it will only allow you to merge 2 files @ a time, and I have like 60 of them
[10:37] <greenman> you guys seem pretty friendly.  which is good cause no doubt I'll be back when i'm installing.  :)
[10:38] <nuked_omen> you feel so monitored in this room.. it's like someone babysitting you
[10:38] <nuked_omen> there is no freedom at all
[10:38] <Stork> pike_, i don't have that
[10:38] <Seveas> nuked_omen, onlyifyou misbehave
[10:38] <nuked_omen> watch your language, don't play with the bot
[10:38] <nuked_omen> don't masturbate
[10:38] <assasukasse> i need to compile an ACPI module, with only kernel headers doesn't work, should i install kernel source as well?
[10:38] <Studiosus> what means 'merge'? put contents in one file one after another?
[10:38] <chuckyp> greenman, no problem jsut come in and ask away.  Your best bet is to check out the desktop guide let me get you the link
[10:38] <Seveas> nuked_omen, you confuse freedom with misbehaving
[10:38] <treitter> does GRUB have keyboard translations? (it seems to hard-code a US keyboard, in the source I'm looking at)
[10:38] <jeeves_Moss> Studiosus:  I need to combine 60 small packet dump files into one large file.
[10:38] <chuckyp> greenman, https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[10:39] <pike_> Stork: you would type that in a terminal window. i know there is a link in you gnome menus but i dont know where
[10:39] <silox> okay now I have REINSTALLED Amercans Army but it still shows "/dev/[sound/] dsp: No such file or directory" in terminal... How can i change it to use my USB audiocard? I have disabled the internal, thats why it complains..
[10:39] <compengi> Seveas, what should i do?
[10:39] <Seveas> compengi, manually change nv to nvidia in xorg.conf <----
[10:39] <Seveas> then you don't need to run the command
[10:39] <Seveas> you only need to reboot
[10:39] <tamacracker> LjL what's the code to get all the plugins at once?
[10:39] <chuckyp> Studiosus, could you just cat file1 file2 file3 > finalfile
[10:39] <EmxBA> looks like firefox 2.0 is going to release tomorow, will it be added to repositories soon?
[10:40] <compengi> Seveas, i see, cause i ran the same command i got the same result
[10:40] <LjL> tamacracker: there is none
[10:40] <Seveas> EmxBA, it already is
[10:40] <tamacracker> apt-get gimp plug
[10:40] <chuckyp> EmxBA, its already in
[10:40] <ryanakca> does the ubuntu live cd come with audacity?
[10:40] <tamacracker> or i have to get them one by one?
[10:40] <LjL> tamacracker: just type "sudo apt-get install plugin1 plugin2 etc"
[10:40] <ryanakca> (the Dapper one)
[10:40] <compengi> Seveas, i'll reboot
[10:40] <Studiosus> for example, type something like this in terminal: for i in * ; do cat $i > /tmp/result ; done
[10:40] <Music_Shuffle> ryanakca, no
[10:40] <EmxBA> Seveas: hi seveas, let me update my package list...
[10:40] <LjL> tamacracker: no, you'll have to get them one by one. "gimp plug" is just a search term, which also shows things that really *aren't* gimp plugins
[10:40] <Seveas> ryanakca, no
[10:40] <Studiosus> sorry, for i in * ; do cat $i >> /tmp/result ; done
[10:40] <tamacracker> i understand
[10:40] <tamacracker> thank you LjL
[10:40] <Studiosus> note >> instead of >
[10:41] <jeeves_Moss> Studiosus: well, I was looking for something simplier.  It also needs to sort the entries by date/time
[10:41] <Stork> pike_, so i should install xscreensaver and remove gnome-screensaver ?
[10:41] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, well you could write your own script to do that.
[10:41] <Snake__> how safe is apt-get upgrading to edgy
[10:41] <silox> "/dev/[sound/] dsp: No such file or directory" gets up when i try to start americans army, whats wrong?
[10:41] <EmxBA> Seveas: in which repo?
[10:41] <narayana> when i try to compile a module it says that it can't find /lib/modules/2.6/build. Where can i get this build direcotry?
[10:41] <chuckyp> Snake__, safe as replacing damn near every file in your system can be I guess
[10:41] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  I'm a n00b, so I don't know what to do
[10:41] <Seveas> EmxBA, edgy, main
[10:42] <chuckyp> Snake__, backup important data first
[10:42] <EmxBA> and dapper?
[10:42] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, did you search repos or google its possible someone mad an app to do that already.
[10:42] <pike_> Stork: ah well im not familiar with gnome screensaver never used it.  so i guess i would but maybe you shouldnt :)
[10:42] <Seveas> won't get it before mozilla drops supportfor1.5
[10:42] <Studiosus> then use find (1), it has all you need and you won't need installing some application. anyway, to make use of linux you'll need to learn some shell scripting
[10:42] <Snake__> chuckyp, okie dokie
[10:42] <Music_Shuffle> How soon you think they'll do that?
[10:42] <Seveas> too soon
[10:42] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  it seems odd that when I do, I can't find much.  I'm not sure if I'm doing the right syntax though
[10:42] <Music_Shuffle> Heheh...tomorrow-type too soon?
[10:42] <chuckyp> Snake__, also make sure you have the ubuntu-desktop meta package install first as well.
[10:42] <Snake__> any other opinions?
[10:43] <oslo> g trouv apres un make install ce fichier: /usr/local/kde/share/apps/kicker/applets/ftpmonitor.desktop comment je lance ftpmonitor ??
[10:43] <Seveas> !fr
[10:43] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:43] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, what kind of files where they?
[10:43] <Studiosus> try to look at http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[10:43] <Studiosus> it has very good manual on shell scripting
[10:43] <Snake__> No one else to chime in??
[10:44] <pike_> silox: you could maybe add a sym link under /dev/dsp pointing to the other sound card but im sure there is a better solution
[10:44] <Studiosus> you could also do 'apt-get install abs-guide'
[10:44] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  they are CAP files.  I've been trying to capture the MAC of some one trying to WEP crack my distrubuted network.  I did a massive dump from all of my access points, and it saves the files as a *.CAP
[10:44] <Music_Shuffle> Snake__, on what?
[10:44] <Snake__> How safe a apt upgrade to edgy is
[10:44] <Snake__> from dapper
[10:44] <silox> pike_ interesting, but how do i do that :)
[10:44] <Seveas> Snake__, it's not released soit has to be considered unstable
[10:44] <alekz> hi, where is the disk administration menu on 6.10 ?
[10:44] <Seveas> but it's safe enough
[10:44] <pike_> silox: you only have the usb sound card?
[10:44] <Snake__> Seveas, and when its released will it be much safer?? All I know is Breezy -> Dapper was hell
[10:45] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp: the problem is that the software saves a bunch of small files insted of one large file.
[10:45] <Music_Shuffle> Sorry, I haven't done it, but I think I can afford to wait a bit. Few months won't hurt anything.
[10:45] <EmxBA> so, Seveas , can i just change dapper to edgy in sources.list? :)
[10:45] <Seveas> Snake__, as long as you stick tosudo update-manager -c -d, you'll be fine
[10:45] <silox> pike_ yes ive disabled the other becaus i cant use headphones in that, the sound worked with that but not on this..
[10:45] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, http://indev.insu.com/Fwctl/pcapmerge.html
[10:45] <Snake__> Seveas, okie dokie
[10:45] <oslo> after i done a make install, trying to launch the apps, /usr/local/kde/share/apps/kicker/applets/ftpmonitor.desktop , does this one can help me run ftpmonitor, 'cause i'm not finding how ???
[10:46] <pike_> silox: and if you type cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp you get no sound right?
[10:46] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, I'm sure you'd be able to find a similiar app using google if that one doesn't work.
[10:46] <Seveas> oslo, google translation doesn't really make it understandable --try #ubuntu-fr forfrench
[10:46] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  thanks guy.  I've been looking for something like this for a while now.  Hopefully I can sort through this mess and find the guy who is doing this.  I think it's a guest of an employee who waits for them in the waiting room
[10:46] <pike_> silox: i dont want to tell you do do something that might break sound
[10:47] <silox> pike_ it says that the drive is full :/
[10:47] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, How are you assuming someone is trying to crack the wep?
[10:48] <EmxBA> oh i see lots of new packages in edgy
[10:48] <oslo> Seveas> fine but the tranlation was from my own
[10:48] <chuckyp> Seveas, how is update-manager -c -d different than a apt dist-upgrade?
[10:49] <cyber> hmm
[10:49] <silox> pike_ any new ideas how i can fix this? :)
[10:49] <cyber> aircrack is in synaptic
[10:49] <Seveas> chuckyp, not everything can be expressed as apt relationships
[10:49] <cyber> lol & that
[10:49] <cyber> @**
[10:49] <kingace> hello
[10:49] <Seveas> update-manager is more intelligent
[10:49] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  there is a MASSIVE amount of misformed packets that are on the network for about an hour, then it stops.  I've gone around to look @ the differen't wireless devices, and none of the MAC address of them match the one that's causing problems.
[10:49] <pike_> silox: ok that is an odd message so im not going to lead you any further down that road :)
[10:49] <kingace> i just grabbed amaroK
[10:49] <macdo> evening, my problem for tonight : at boot, after grub, this message : 'MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IOAPIC'
[10:49] <kingace> im very new to ubuntu
[10:49] <chuckyp> Seveas, ahh gotcha so we should be telling people to use update-manager -c -d
[10:49] <Seveas> chuckyp, yes
[10:49] <compengi> !nvidia
[10:49] <kingace> and it doesnt seem to play my mp3s
[10:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:49] <proof> ljl
[10:49] <silox> pike_ okay ^^
[10:49] <alekz> hi, where is the disk administration menu on edgy ?
[10:49] <LjL> oslo: try /usr/local/kde/bin/ftpmonitor - just a guess
[10:49] <EmxBA> oooh there is a update manager , Seveas
[10:49] <kingace> it skips through them
[10:49] <kingace> other sound works though
[10:49] <proof> i finished downloading the new ubuntu you told me to download what do i do now
[10:49] <EmxBA> update-manager -c -d installs upgrade manager for edgy
[10:49] <EmxBA> col ;)
[10:49] <macdo> then everything just stays there, no boot
[10:49] <EmxBA> *cool
[10:50] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, hrm... well when the activity start check outside and all around the building for someone that's out of place.
[10:50] <silox> pike_ any other ideas?
[10:50] <cyber> kingace, did you check synaptic? there are alot of Mp3 players & stuff :P
[10:50] <cyber> i just went through some of the stuff in there
[10:50] <Pasteurized> hi all
[10:50] <LjL> proof: well, now burn it. i usually use a command such as "cdrecord -sao -speed=16 -data filename.iso" from the console, but perhaps you might prefer a graphical program. not sure if Hoary comes with one by default
[10:50] <x80> Can anyone help me with this: i have a lucent win modem with a 2.4.29 kernel, lspci shows the modem information yet kppp keeps returning "modem is busy", can anyone help?
[10:50] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  we're localted out in the country, so there isn't much around, and other than our office, it's a "dead zone"
[10:50] <chuckyp> Seveas, they still need to change their sources.list correct?
[10:51] <proof> where do i use that command ?
[10:51] <LjL> !mpe > kingace
[10:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:51] <LjL> proof: in a shell. Applications / Accessories / Terminal, i think it is on Gnome
[10:51] <pike_> silox: if it were regular hardware of this were solaris maybe but im not sure how ubuntu handles that usb device
[10:51] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, hrm... yeah check out that util but most likely you could find otu who it is just by walking around.   Or you could set up a honey pot etc... there are many things to get them.
[10:51] <Pasteurized> I'm using MPD + Sonata Music Player, but I havent any sound while playing music, any idea plz ?
[10:51] <x80> Alsamixer.
[10:51] <pike_> silox: sry
[10:51] <Flannel> chuckyp: not if they update manager, no.
[10:52] <chuckyp> Flannel, ahh cool.
[10:52] <Flannel> !upgrade | chuckyp, this has all the details
[10:52] <ubotu> chuckyp, this has all the details: Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:52] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  all I know is that if I find them, I'm going to smash what ever laptop or PDA they're using.
[10:52] <silox> pike_ okay thx anyway (C-Media Headphone Set) its the drivers..
[10:52] <oslo> LjL> nop
[10:53] <silox> any other who knows how to fix this audio problem?
[10:53] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  my luck is that it's some one who lives accross the street with a CANtenna
[10:53] <LjL> !checkinstall > oslo
[10:53] <compengi> Seveas, thank you very much it's working now fine :D
[10:53] <LjL> oslo: try running the make install again, using checkinstall instead. then, you'll be able to type "dpkg -L packagename" to see where all the files are
[10:53] <silox> o_O are u still there?
[10:53] <cyber> hmm
[10:54] <cyber> if i download some thing from synaptic, where would it go?
[10:54] <proof> ljl can you help me get windows xp professional
[10:54] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, yeah the only way you could really try and locate them is by some sort of signal strength meter.
[10:54] <pike_> silox: sblive cards are pretty cheap :)
[10:54] <proof> i dont wanna use linux its to hard
[10:54] <Pasteurized> x80: what should I check ?
[10:54] <cyber> because i downloaded 3 packages & they supposedly installed but i dont know where to find them :/
[10:54] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  I'm tempted to go dust off my college electronics books and build one.
[10:54] <LjL> !windows
[10:54] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1  -  !equivalents  -  http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[10:54] <LjL> proof: ^^
[10:54] <x80> Terminal => alsamixer.
[10:54] <kingace> I get this error:
[10:54] <alekz> wich is the channel for edgy ?
[10:54] <kingace> Package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:54] <fbc> I was trying the "conect to server" features in ubuntu, and was goign to change file permissions, when I ran across an option called "sticky" when changing permissions. What does "sticky" mean when it comes to FTP permissions?
[10:54] <NeoThermic> ..
[10:55] <x80> Press "m" to unmute selections.
[10:55] <PSUSI> cyber: you mean if you install a package but click download only?
[10:55] <silox> pike_ okay but if i can listen on music and all it should work in AA also, right? :/
[10:55] <cyber> i dont know :/
[10:55] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, kismet may be your friend for a while as well.
[10:55] <CarinArr> !edgy
[10:55] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:55] <NeoThermic> my ubuntu CD got so hot during install that it has melted the CD pen writing off
[10:55] <PSUSI> cyber: you don't know what?
[10:55] <cyber> i clicked the check block & then apply in the top window of synaptic
[10:55] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  I still can't get that software to install.  I'm getting annoyed.   I've just installed ubuntu, and I get the message: Hard disk boot sector invalid
[10:56] <pike_> silox: ive never had a sblive problem in ubuntu that wasnt just a matter of playing witht he volume and other stuff in alsamixer
[10:56] <cyber> !language'
[10:56] <cyber> !language
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about language' - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:56] <silox> pike_ okay ^^
[10:57] <macdo> no-one got any ideas abt mp-bios bug ??
[10:57] <cyber> i think it went to usr/games PSUSI
[10:57] <NeoThermic> eeep, what went wrong? :|
[10:57] <cyber> need to find where aircrack went as well :/
[10:57] <Pasteurized> x80: I didnt see anything which is muted
[10:57] <fbc> I was trying the "conect to server" features in ubuntu, and was goign to change file permissions, when I ran across an option called "sticky" when changing permissions. What does "sticky" mean when it comes to FTP permissions?
[10:57] <NeoThermic> ok, I don't think grub or equivalent was installed, any help on checking if it was and if not, how to install it?
[10:58] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, perhaps check out one of the livecd security distros most of those utilities should be installed already.
[10:58] <macdo> cyber: press alt+F2, and type the name of the program into the box
[10:58] <Flannel> !tell NeoThermic about grub
[10:58] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  one step ahead of you.
[10:58] <Flannel> NeoThermic: the first link there tells you how to reinstall (yes, its for recovering from windows, but how it got uninstalled isnt important)
[10:58] <cyber> thanks macdo
[10:59] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  I'm actuly trying to design a peice of hardware for hackers that has WiFi and bluetooh cards in it along with a HDD
[10:59] <cyber> hmm
[10:59] <cyber> !hackers > cyber
[10:59] <cyber> :P
[11:00] <fbc> NeoThermic: Grubs are think worm-like larvae of beetles.
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hackers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <Captain_Fleming> Hi guys...
[11:00] <cyber> the bot actually tunes u :P
[11:00] <Captain_Fleming> I've got this really annoying question...
[11:00] <cyber> says i should just msg him instead of spamming :P rofl
[11:00] <Captain_Fleming> Anyone here knows more about "Menu.cc: In member function 'void FbTk::Menu::update(int)':
[11:00] <Captain_Fleming> Menu.cc:496: error: no matching function for call to 'FbTk::FbPixmap::FbPixmap(FbTk::FbPixmap)'"
[11:00] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, there ya go
[11:00] <fbc> I was trying the "conect to server" features in ubuntu, and was goign to change file permissions, when I ran across an option called "sticky" when changing permissions. What does "sticky" mean when it comes to FTP permissions?
[11:01] <Captain_Fleming> Anyone?
[11:01] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  do you now how ot get ahold of the guys who do Aircrack-ng?  I've tried e-mailing them, and the accounts don't exist
[11:01] <Studiosus> AFAIK, sticky has nothing to do with ftp
[11:02] <Studiosus> sticky bit set for directories means that only owner of file can delete it, even if directory is world-writeable. very useful for /tmp
[11:02] <Captain_Fleming> Anyone here knows about installing fluxspace?
[11:02] <chuckyp> jeeves_Moss, not really maybe see if they have a irc channel hanging around or something like that.
[11:03] <chuckyp> !info fluxspace
[11:03] <NeoThermic> Flannel: those instructions didn't appear to work, upon booting the disk up I do not get an area to type anything, yet alone a boot: prompt. I can, however, use the CD to boot into the HD install of ubuntu; is there anything I can do from there?
[11:03] <ubotu> Package fluxspace does not exist in any distro I know
[11:03] <Captain_Fleming> chuckyp: I know about fluxspace, but I encounter an error when I "make"... :(
[11:03] <Flannel> NeoThermic: that's for the Alternate CD, you want the LiveCD/Desktop instructions
[11:03] <martynda> hi, i can't get connector/j to work in ubuntu, have libmysql-java, but it's still not working
[11:04] <NeoThermic> Flannel: ah :)
[11:04] <jeeves_Moss> chuckyp:  well, I'd just like to sudgest to them to make a GUI.  That way it's faster to use.  Don't get me wrong, the software is solid, but it's a LOT of command line stuff.
[11:04] <clandestino> Hi. How can you change the default umask with pam?
[11:04] <HeXiOn> hello
[11:05] <alekz> hi, where is the disk administration menu on edgy ?
[11:05] <Flannel> alekz: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[11:05] <alekz> thanks Flannel
[11:05] <fbc> I was trying the "conect to server" features in ubuntu, and was goign to change file permissions, when I ran across an option called "sticky" when changing permissions. What does "sticky" mean when it comes to FTP permissions?
[11:05] <HeXiOn> I have kernel freezes due my sata drive. I want to try another sata module but cannot unload my current sata module (sata_uli). It says "ERROR: Module sata_uli is in use"   HOW can I unload it?
[11:06] <NeoThermic> Flannel: I'm still a bit out of my depth here :S
[11:06] <Studiosus> does anyone knows when (if) dapper will get gcc-4.1 toolchain?
[11:06] <NeoThermic> how can I find and confirm my harddisk + boot partition numbers?
[11:06] <Flannel> fbc: Studiosus answered you, 4 mins ago, if you've a timestamp
[11:06] <abo> anyone knows how can I get the temperature of my CPU?
[11:06] <Flannel> NeoThermic: You know where you have them in linux? (hda1, hdb5, etc?)
[11:07] <NeoThermic> abo: sniff around /proc/acpi/
[11:07] <chuckyp> !info gcc
[11:07] <ubotu> gcc: The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[11:07] <NeoThermic> Flannel: yeah, I can pull up `mount` to tell me
[11:07] <chuckyp> Studiosus, hrm.. well edgy has 4.1 gcc
[11:07] <Vornotron> gcc is only 64k?
[11:07] <Captain_Fleming> Ok, anyone here please knows about "Menu.cc:496: error: no matching function for call to 'FbTk::FbPixmap::FbPixmap(FbTk::FbPixmap)'" with fluxspace?
[11:07] <Vornotron> man.
[11:07] <NeoThermic> hda1 is root
[11:07] <Flannel> Studiosus: versions will never change on a release
[11:07] <Flannel> NeoThermic: and /boot?
[11:07] <fbc> Flannel: Cool, thanks... If no one puts my nick in front of a sentence, x-chat does not highlight, and I miss it.
[11:07] <Studiosus> gcc-4.0 seems broken to me, it can't compile boost :(
[11:07] <Studiosus> and mplayer :(
[11:07] <NeoThermic> I do not see a /boot
[11:08] <abo> I "apt-get install censors-applet" but can't find it to start it, anyone can help?
[11:08] <Flannel> NeoThermic: then /boot is inside of /, so your boot partition is on hda1, which in grub speak is 0,0
[11:08] <NeoThermic> so I type root (hd0,0) ?
[11:08] <Flannel> NeoThermic: so, either hd(0,0) or hda1, depending on where you're inputting it
[11:09] <flasher> so how can one share a internet cable line with more than one computer? what is needed?
[11:09] <NeoThermic> I'm at a grub> prompt
[11:09] <Dr_willis> abo,  it a gnome panel applet?
[11:09] <Flannel> NeoThermic: yes
[11:09] <chuckyp> flasher, a router or pc with two cards
[11:09] <abo> yes
[11:09] <Dr_willis> abo,  the panelmenus often have an add to panel/applet thing
[11:09] <CarinArr> !ati
[11:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:09] <macdo> ok, FYI: it needed a boot option: not noapic, not acpi_skip_timer_override, but acpi=off
[11:09] <dcordes> hi all
[11:09] <flasher> chuckyp: a pc with 2 cardS?
[11:09] <macdo> thanks anyway
[11:09] <Flannel> NeoThermic: whatever that howto says... I don't have it memorized ;)  but, talking to grub, (hd0,0), to linux: hda1
[11:09] <Studiosus> then, what compiler version is used to build ubuntu kernels in dapper?
[11:09] <chuckyp> flasher, pc with two nics.  one for the WAN connection (internet)  and one for the LAN connection (to go to the other pc)
[11:10] <flasher> chuckyp: oh. i don't think many people's computers have 2 nics
[11:10] <Captain_Fleming> Since no one seems to know what I'm talking about, is there a synaptec version for fluxspace?
[11:10] <Flannel> Studiosus: the same that's on dapper
[11:10] <flasher> chuckyp: if we don't have either option you speak about, it would be cheaper and easier to go buy a router, right?
[11:10] <chuckyp> flasher, no not really the other option is buying a router.  And you can find them for usually the price of a second network card.
[11:10] <osman> Hi All you Ubunters, I am wondering how to change the NIC that sshd binds to as I have added another nic and now cant shell into my box via the new NIC???
[11:10] <Studiosus> Flannel, thx
[11:11] <Flannel> Captain_Fleming: no
[11:11] <Captain_Fleming> Damn... :(
[11:11] <GhostFreeman> How long before Firefox 2 gets posted to universe?
[11:11] <chuckyp> GhoSt_DoG, its already there
[11:11] <NeoThermic> Flannel: ace, I hope this works :)
[11:11] <GhoSt_DoG> humn oO
[11:11] <flasher> chuckyp: ok. a router and some of the physical cable
[11:11] <nomasteryoda> GhostFreeman, i just insalled it ...
[11:11] <nomasteryoda> via updates
[11:11] <PSUSI> osman: iirc it binds to <IP_ADDRESS> ( all interfaces ) by default
[11:11] <GhostFreeman> oh
[11:12] <chuckyp> flasher, yeah internet connection will go to router  then out of the router you have a cable for each pc.  Or you could go wireless but that would require buying wireless network cards for each pc.
[11:12] <Flannel> GhostFreeman: 2.0 will never be in Dapper, only in Edgy, and it already is in main.
[11:12] <osman> why can I not shell in then via the new NIC??? PSUSI
[11:12] <GhostFreeman> oh
[11:12] <NeoThermic> Flannel: no dice, same message on boot.
[11:12] <osman> also my APACHE doesnt work via the new NIC and wont start up now, claims that it cannot bind to interface
[11:13] <crass> how do I initiate hibernate from the terminal?
[11:13] <chuckyp> flasher, I recommend a linksys router can be found at walmart kmart or most electronics stores.  And they are very easy to set up.
[11:13] <Flannel> NeoThermic: you followed those instructions on how to reinstall grub? but it didn't reinstall?
[11:13] <cogitatus> what's a safe way to remove a soft link?
[11:13] <NeoThermic> Flannel: grub said it succeeded in install
[11:13] <cogitatus> will rm <link> attempt to remove the file it's linked to?
[11:13] <Flannel> NeoThermic: what error does it give you on boot?
[11:13] <flasher> chuckyp: and cheap hopefully.
[11:14] <cyber> cogitatus,  be gentle :P
[11:14] <NeoThermic> but when I reboot, I get `Hard disk boot sector invalid`
[11:14] <NeoThermic> which sounds BIOSie :P
[11:14] <BlackTiger> want some good music listen to me.... spacesradio.com
[11:14] <XVampireX> NO
[11:14] <PSUSI> osmon: it probably isn't configured correctly
[11:14] <chuckyp> flasher, You just want to make sure what ever router you purchase has a WAN port for what you want to do.  Yeah you can get them around $50 or maybe even cheaper for a wired one instead of wireless
[11:14] <osman> cogitatus, you can remove a soft link with rm, for instance if the softlink is a dir make sure it doesnt have the / at the end and it removes the link not the dir
[11:14] <Paddy_EIRE> BlackTiger: checking it out
[11:14] <PSUSI> osmon: did you assign it a unique IP address?
[11:14] <cogitatus> osman, cool. thanks.
[11:15] <flasher> chuckyp: yeah, i think i'll get a wired one.
[11:15] <PSUSI> NeoThermic: did you install grub to the MBR or the boot sector?
[11:15] <chuckyp> flasher, http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3504719
[11:15] <NeoThermic> PSUSI: I've no idea
[11:15] <osman> PSUSI, well it was working untill I installed a new NIC
[11:15] <BlackTiger> Paddy it's not me on air rigth now...
[11:15] <Paddy_EIRE> k
[11:15] <NeoThermic> how can I tell?
[11:16] <PSUSI> NeoThermic: I assume you installed grub by hand right?  what commands did you give it?
[11:16] <Paddy_EIRE> BlackTiger: do you use last.fm
[11:16] <abo> NeoThermic, the folder /proc/acpi/thermal_zone is empty, is that normal?  the censors applet says "no cencors"! could that be right in a new Desktop?
[11:16] <PSUSI> NeoThermic: specifically, what were the parameters to the setup command?
[11:16] <BlackTiger> nope what is that
[11:16] <osman> PSUSI, I just ssh loclahost no problem, but when i shell in from work it dosnt let me , but I could shell in a few days ago,m shit I know what it is I am working on a new vlan, my bad
[11:16] <Paddy_EIRE> http:www.last.fm/ <--its becoming very big
[11:16] <NeoThermic> at the grub prompt, I typed `root (hd0,0)` and then `setup (hd0)` and then after it said done, I typed `quit`
[11:16] <flasher> chuckyp: thanks
[11:17] <osman> PSUSI, how about apache though ??
[11:17] <chuckyp> flasher, comes with a cd to setup the router(for windows) .   Although you don't really need the cd.  You just plug in the router according to the directions and to you pc.  THen you go to http://<IP_ADDRESS>  in your browser to configure it.
[11:17] <flasher> 50 dollars. i wish there was something for less
[11:17] <Paddy_EIRE> BlackTiger: oops its actually http://www.last.fm/
[11:17] <PSUSI> NeoThermic: do you have multiple disk drives?
[11:17] <chuckyp> flasher, I'm sure there is. if you hunt around like bestbuy or circuit city.
[11:17] <flasher> good idea, chuckyp
[11:17] <PSUSI> osman: no idea
[11:18] <Paddy_EIRE> BlackTiger: there is a linux version and amarok also works with it
[11:18] <chuckyp> flasher, i've seen cheaper.  I jsut prefer the linksys for ease of use.   And availibility but there are many others you can try.
[11:18] <BlackTiger> but what is lat.fm
[11:18] <NeoThermic> PSUSI: physical drives there's only one, partitions, I had 786M for swap, and 17.88G for root, which is the whole 20G allocated.
[11:18] <czedlitz> how do you start another x server say on display 1?
[11:18] <cyber> any way
[11:18] <cyber> night all
[11:18] <cyber> thanks for anothere day of support
[11:19] <francesco8-> hello
[11:19] <PSUSI> NeoThermic: strange.... maybe you do have some whacked out bios?
[11:19] <chuckyp> flasher, http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6359353&st=cable+router&lp=4&type=product&cp=1&id=1077624215034
[11:19] <flasher> chuckyp: my comp is ubuntu, and the other person's is windows. any router that works with win also works with linux, yes?
[11:19] <dijungal> how do i get thunderbird to minimze  to the system tray (prolly not called that in ubuntu)
[11:19] <dijungal> ?
[11:20] <NeoThermic> PSUSI: I hope not. :\
[11:20] <NeoThermic> how can I check/tell? :P
[11:20] <francesco8-> well, I killed amsn but it doesn't open anymore until I restart the system, what can I do?
[11:20] <BlackTiger> i don't know what it is but looks like a good site.... to get some info
[11:20] <chuckyp> flasher, yeah like I said you don't really need the cd that comes with it.  Most can be configured through an internet browser.  And they will work regardless of the operating system
[11:20] <BlackTiger> is it a radio station???
[11:20] <flasher> chuckyp: can we use a wireless router for wired pcs?
[11:20] <flasher> PCs?
[11:20] <flasher> example http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10080256&catid=21115
[11:21] <chuckyp> flasher, if it has wired ports
[11:21] <flasher> i see
[11:21] <PSUSI> NeoThermic: not sure...
[11:21] <francesco8-> can anybody help me?
[11:22] <chuckyp> flasher, yes that one would work because it has 4 wired ports
[11:22] <chuckyp> flasher, Four 10/100M Auto-Negotiation LAN RJ-45 ports.
[11:22] <chuckyp> !ask > francesco8-
[11:22] <flasher> One 10/100M Auto-Negotiation WAN RJ-45 port <--- means Wireless?
[11:23] <francesco8-> see above, chuckyp
[11:23] <francesco8-> "well, I killed amsn but it doesn't open anymore until I restart the system, what can I do?"
[11:23] <chuckyp> flasher, no that is the WAN port that is where your current cable modem would plug in to.
[11:23] <flasher> oh.
[11:23] <Sp4rKy> hi
[11:23] <stephans> I can't get ubuntu to recognize the proper 1920X rezolution of my monitor
[11:23] <flasher> so the cable in the wall plugs into the cable modem. and the cable modem plugs into router.
[11:24] <francesco8-> I want to open any killed program without restart the system..
[11:24] <Sp4rKy> please i've command 50CD's 26th of August and i don't have receive them
[11:24] <stephans> How can you force a resolution?
[11:24] <chuckyp> francesco8-, try killall -9 amsn in terminal then try opening it.  Its possible you have a hung process
[11:24] <chuckyp> flasher, yeap
[11:24] <chuckyp> flasher, then the pc plug in to the router.
[11:25] <stephans> Is there anyone who knows how to force a resolution in ubuntu?
[11:25] <francesco8-> it doesn't work, chuckyp
[11:25] <chuckyp> francesco8-, what doesn't work?
[11:25] <PSUSI> stephans: ctrl-alt-+/- should change resolutions on the fly
[11:26] <PSUSI> stephans: otherwise edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:26] <chuckyp> stephans, you can dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the resolutions you want.
[11:26] <francesco8-> I've "killall -9 amsn" but when I try to open amsn it doesn't open
[11:26] <Sp4rKy> please, what's the simpliest way if i want create a mirror of official main/universe repository ?
[11:26] <chuckyp> francesco8-, okay ps aux | grep amsn   what is the output of that.
[11:26] <Sp4rKy> and what's the size of it ?
[11:26] <flasher> chuckyp: i've just remembered. i have a Dell 2350 wireless broadband router. i'm looking at the back right now, and there are 4 ports, named LAN 1, LAN 2, etc. this will work for wired internet sharing, yes?
[11:27] <chuckyp> flasher, does it have a WAN port?
[11:27] <francesco8-> chuckyp, it's a bit long..should I past here?
[11:27] <francesco8-> what value to you want to know?
[11:27] <willwork4foo> hiya
[11:28] <chuckyp> francesco8-, did it return anything  "ps aux | grep amsn"
[11:28] <chuckyp> francesco8-, more than one line?
[11:28] <francesco8-> yes
[11:28] <stephans> ok thakn you
[11:30] <flasher> chuckyp: there's a port that is labeled "internet".
[11:30] <chuckyp> flasher, yes that will work then.
[11:30] <Siph0n> if i have a portable usb hard drive, can i put the ubuntu installer on it, and then have my computer boot from the usb hard drive? cause i dont have a cdrom drive in my laptop
[11:30] <diederik_nld> hello everyone
[11:30] <flasher> chuckyp: perfect! thanks
[11:31] <flasher> no need to buy a router
[11:31] <chuckyp> exactly
[11:31] <chuckyp> flasher, you should be able to use that.
[11:31] <flasher> chuckyp: so do we need to put the setup cd into the win computer?
[11:31] <francesco8-> do you know how to do chuckyp?
[11:31] <flasher> if the computers are working fine in regards to internet?
[11:32] <LoudMouthMan> evening all , apologies in advance for just crashing in with a question.
[11:32] <LoudMouthMan> pop quiz for the lazy cause I cant be bothered to dig out my documentation on this .. so sorry ! but in choosing a openpgpkey should I choose RSA or DSA ..
[11:32] <chuckyp> flasher, well if you want to use the setup cd yes mostlikely you will need to put it int he windows computer and follow the directions.
[11:33] <chuckyp> francesco8-, how many lines did it return?
[11:33] <flasher> if the windows comp is able to use internet without a router, is it still necesarry to use the setup cd?
[11:34] <chuckyp> flasher, what is plugged in to the windows pc the cable modem?
[11:34] <flasher> chuckyp: yes
[11:35] <dmglouis> can someone help me? my ethernet card can't get a lease from my router
[11:35] <francesco8-> chuckyp, 20
[11:35] <chuckyp> flasher, yeah still follow the directions because the cable modem needs to be plugged in to the internet port ont eh router then the computers will plug into the router.  That way you could have up to four computers using the same cable modem connection.
[11:35] <kmaynard> i never had a problem dual booting when connected directly to a cable modem. the problem came when i tried to attach a new device to the modem. modems bind to the mac address of one NIC at a time
[11:35] <chuckyp> francesco8-, can you put the output on pastebin
[11:35] <chuckyp> !pastebin
[11:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:35] <chuckyp> francesco8-, just copy and paste
[11:36] <flasher> chuckyp: when you say follow directions, what do you mean? you mean the order of phsyicall connections? or do you mean that installing the SetUp cd on the windows computer is needed?
[11:36] <francesco8-> here or with a past site?
[11:36] <francesco8-> ok pastebin
[11:36] <lupine_85> !pastebin
[11:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:36] <francesco8-> ;)
[11:36] <finalbeta> kmaynard , I did have that problem, I had to release my IP address before I booted in the other OS. (ISP telenet)
[11:37] <dmglouis> can someone tell me how to change the search address <IP_ADDRESS> for restaring networking to my router IP?
[11:37] <chuckyp> flasher, the directions that came with the router.  If you don't have those check out what the install cd says.  If not you may have to call dell support.  They are very good at supporting their products
[11:37] <chuckyp> dmglouis, ifconfig is what you are looking for.  or network-manager
[11:37] <fatsheep> has anyone got the nsplugin wrapper working well with 64-bit firefox?
[11:38] <dmglouis> chuckyp: i've tried ifconfig, and all that shows is that i dont have IP assigned to eth0
[11:38] <chuckyp> dmglouis, what do you need to do specify the ip or do you get one automatically from the router via DHCP?
[11:38] <dmglouis> ckuckyp: and network managers no help because with IP i cant even ping
[11:39] <dmglouis> chuckyp: dhcp, but that only happens if I restart the computer completely
[11:39] <dmglouis> chuckyp: if I restart just networking, I lose the IP address
[11:39] <flasher> chuckyp: i have the instructions. it says before connecting stuff, install cd on windows comp
[11:39] <chuckyp> dmglouis, ifdown eth0  then ifup eth0  should re dhcp
[11:39] <flasher> chuckyp: i'm curious, what if neither computer was windows?
[11:39] <dmglouis> chuckyp: and even with the assigned IP address, i cant ping the router
[11:40] <kmaynard> reset the modem, unplug and re=plug the router
[11:40] <francesco8-> pastebin is very slow..
[11:40] <chuckyp> flasher, if neither pc was windows you would have to hope that the router has a internet configuration via browser.  You would hook it up according to the directions then browse to the routers ip address http://<IP_ADDRESS>  or <IP_ADDRESS>  whatever that may be then set it up manually.
[11:40] <flasher> oh i see
[11:41] <chuckyp> dmglouis, has this router ever worked?
[11:41] <chuckyp> dmglouis, and network card for that matter
[11:41] <dmglouis> chuckyp: this reassigning thing is the problem because it looks for dhcp leases on IP address <IP_ADDRESS>, whereas my router IP is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:41] <dmglouis> chuckyp: yea, the routers working right now, because im on a comp on the netwokr
[11:41] <chuckyp> dmglouis, but if you restart it works fine?
[11:42] <kmaynard> when all else fails, hit it with a hammer
[11:42] <dmglouis> chuckyp: yes, the network card has worked in the past
[11:42] <chuckyp> dmglouis, well then just restart
[11:42] <dmglouis> chuckyp: if i restart, i only get an IP address
[11:42] <chuckyp> kmaynard, lol
[11:42] <francesco8-> chuckyp, http://rafb.net/paste/results/FHqnEF66.html
[11:42] <francesco8-> here it is
[11:42] <chuckyp> dmglouis, what ip address do you get?  is it in the same range i.e. <IP_ADDRESS>  ???
[11:42] <dmglouis> chuckyp: it still cant ping the router
[11:42] <dmglouis> chuckyp: yea, i get <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:43] <tfr> Jaki program do kamerek internetowych?
[11:43] <chuckyp> francesco8-, okay sudo killall amsn
[11:43] <tech_> How do you registers your userame?  I have read the web page but it assumes I know what they mean.
[11:43] <chuckyp> dmglouis, does internet work though?
[11:43] <tech_> ...for xChat that is.
[11:43] <dmglouis> chuckyp: no
[11:43] <chuckyp> dmglouis, can you ping other pcs on the network?
[11:43] <dmglouis> chuckyp: i cant even ping the router
[11:44] <dmglouis> chuckyp: no
[11:44] <tnnc> trying to use ssh Xforwarding i can get to box then try to run command like firefox& but saids it cant open display any ideas
[11:44] <francesco8-> "amsn: no process killed" rotfl
[11:44] <chuckyp> !ssh > tnnc
[11:44] <iturk> my friends i need to configure a joystick its a speed link USB and i have follow this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28538.html but i cannot see /dev/input/js0 and i have this in my dmesg -> http://pastebin.ca/217770. I dont know how to tell it to load at boot. how can i do that ??
[11:44] <chuckyp> francesco8-, wtf... killall -9 amsn
[11:45] <francesco8-> the same thing..
[11:45] <dmglouis> does anyone know how to change the IP address being searched for dhcp leases?
[11:45] <dmglouis> because I think thats he problem
[11:45] <chuckyp> francesco8-, okay well kill them by pid
[11:45] <ZeN> I need help installing ubuntu or xubuntu (or any goddamned distro at this point) on my Lime/White Tray Load iMac G3
[11:46] <iturk> also i have compile the kernel by myself its not the default one from linux maybe i need to activate something can someone help ??
[11:46] <chuckyp> francesco8-, kill 20931   kill 29943   kill 7231        kill 9127
[11:46] <iturk> i mean from ubuntu
[11:46] <chuckyp> francesco8-, or reboot
[11:47] <chuckyp> dmglouis, thats just plain goofy because dhcp is working if you are getting a ip on that same range.
[11:47] <dmglouis> i know
[11:47] <rag> please for start wifi on boot for ipw2200
[11:47] <kmaynard> prolly a gateway or DNS problem
[11:47] <lucas> hello people
[11:47] <francesco8-> well I wouldn't prefer to reboot, but in any case..
[11:48] <rag> echo 'ipw2200' >> /etc/modules?
[11:48] <rag> is ok?
[11:48] <lucas> somebody here try install de new firefox 2.0 ?
[11:48] <iamtheric> !ion4
[11:48] <chuckyp> yeah it could be gateway or dns
[11:48] <spdf> ZeN, any specific errors?
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ion4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:48] <chuckyp> dmglouis, what is the output of ifconfig eth0
[11:48] <fatsheep> lucas: no I heard it's quite unstable
[11:48] <rag> echo 'ipw2200' >> /etc/modules? for start wifi on boot , true?
[11:48] <kmaynard> lucas, i run FF 2
[11:48] <francesco8-> thanks for your time chuckyp
[11:48] <fatsheep> any stability problems?
[11:48] <chuckyp> francesco8-, well if you kill all those processes you should be okay
[11:49] <ZeN> spdf, you see, I can't even get it to boot from the CD, despite the fact that its IS new world and I can enter OF
[11:49] <dmglouis> i cant pastebin, that comp doesn't have internet access
[11:49] <lucas> kmaynard, the final version?
[11:49] <chuckyp> francesco8-, System > Administration > System Monitor      You could try killing them there.
[11:49] <rag> echo 'ipw2200' >> /etc/modules? for start wifi on boot , true?
[11:49] <kmaynard> lucas, no, RC 3
[11:49] <iamtheric> !ion3
[11:49] <chuckyp> francesco8-, the amsn processes that is.
[11:49] <ubotu> ion3: keyboard-friendly window manager with tiled windows (devel). In component universe, is extra. Version 20060107-4ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1322 kB, installed size 3448 kB
[11:49] <spdf> ZeN, you've downloaded the correct iso?
[11:49] <lucas> when i'm tryngr run the final version
[11:49] <kmaynard> lucas, it'ss be final when it's updated tho
[11:49] <iamtheric> kmaynard, you a sub teacher?
[11:49] <lucas> i had any fault =/ "Segment fault" at ./run-mozilla.sh, in line 131
[11:49] <kmaynard> iamtheric, nope
[11:50] <ZeN> yes, and verified the MD5
[11:50] <lucas> somebody had same errors?
[11:50] <ZeN> and burned it correctly (not a data disc, image on the CD)
[11:50] <dmglouis> here: i put the output of network restart on pastebin, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28009/
[11:50] <kmaynard> lucas, the the RC 3 tarball from mozilla.com, put it in /opt, unpack it, then run /opt/firefox/firefox
[11:50] <ZeN> and burned it at 24x, 16x and 4x
[11:50] <kmaynard> oh, and get ownership of it so you can update it
[11:50] <lucas> not overwrite de old files?
[11:51] <kmaynard> lucasm i still have the official ubuntu build, but if they ever switch to iceweasel i'm removing that
[11:51] <francesco8-> there are no processes with amsn..
[11:51] <lucas> i'm try removing de old firefox
[11:51] <francesco8-> It's very strange..
[11:51] <lucas> but not have sucess =/
[11:51] <iamtheric> !dillo
[11:51] <ubotu> dillo: Small and fast web browser. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.5-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 339 kB, installed size 928 kB
[11:52] <ZeN> It's currently got OS9 on it, and I'm wondering if I should be able to mount the CD
[11:52] <ZeN> while in OS9
[11:52] <kmaynard> lucas, do what i said, then edit your menu links to point to the version in /opt/firefox
[11:52] <ZeN> it says that the disk is "unreadable by this computer"
[11:52] <francesco8-> ciao angelo
[11:52] <rag> echo 'ipw2200' >> /etc/modules? for start wifi on boot , true?
[11:52] <lucas> in a synaptic when i'm tryng remove the firefox of the ubuntu... his try remove other packages
[11:52] <lucas> =/
[11:53] <lucas> like ubuntu-desktop and others
[11:53] <angelo> ciao francesco8-
[11:53] <kmaynard> lucas, then dont remove the old one
[11:53] <PulsatingPenguin> ubuntu-desktop is safe to remove AFAIK, as long as you put it back
[11:54] <iturk> my friends i need to configure a joystick its a speed link USB and i have follow this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28538.html but i cannot see /dev/input/js0 and i have this in my dmesg -> http://pastebin.ca/217770. I dont know how to tell it to load at boot. how can i do that ??
[11:54] <PulsatingPenguin> it's just a dependency list I think
[11:54] <PulsatingPenguin>  a list of packages rather
[11:54] <spdf> ZeN, Hmm.. so, assuming you've burned the ppc iso, it should be a matter of rebooting and holding down the c key..
[11:54] <lucas> kmaynard: it does not have a mode to remove only firefox?
[11:54] <ZeN> done it
[11:54] <ZeN> also tried cmd + opt + shift
[11:54] <ZeN> cmd + opt + c
[11:55] <ZeN> etc, etc
[11:55] <Enselic> How can I get firefox to play sound of streaming media *wihtout* having to have the windowed focused that is streaming the audio
[11:55] <lucas> yes, had some dependency packages, when i need remove only firefox, not other packages =/
[11:56] <ZeN> I can however enter Open Firmware via cmd + opt + o +f and I can reset my PRAM with cmd + opt + p + r
[11:56] <cbx33> lucas, ignore my problems from before....and sorry to bother you I have fixed it all now...was my fault ;)
[11:56] <alekz> can someone recommend me a nice image compressor ?
[11:56] <spdf> ZeN, Hmm.. Do you have an OS9 cd hanging around?
[11:57] <ZeN> no, but I do have an OSX CD
[11:57] <ZeN> and I can boot from it
[11:57] <ZeN> by the way, when I try holding C (or any of the boot from CD key sequences) it hangs for a few seconds extra, as if it is trying to boot from the CD but doesn't know what to do with the data on the CD.
[11:58] <hikenboot> hello all as root I can run direct rendering: yes as a normal user booting thru gdm I cant get direct rendering working...it does not appear to be a rights issue...any ideas? Its on ubuntu with the ubuntu nvidia-glx drivers and nvidia-glx-de
[12:00] <togge> this is a long shot, but does anyone know how to stream video from dvb-t to i.e an xbox ?


[03:40] <duflu> robert_ancell: Only coding style? :)
[03:41] <robert_ancell> duflu, that was the easy changes..
[03:42] <duflu> I expect more complaints. So many more that I would not recommend upstreaming right now
[03:42] <robert_ancell> duflu, I have a simplified branch that I'm trying to propose. It removes as much as possible to get a first step
[03:43] <duflu> robert_ancell: If you mean removing dri2 I would like to do that but it's critical to keep on desktop
[03:43] <robert_ancell> duflu, yeah, it's just software support
[03:43] <duflu> robert_ancell: Yeah please don't bother. Real desktops need the dri2 backend
[03:44] <robert_ancell> duflu, it's worth us having a smaller delta
[03:44] <duflu> robert_ancell: Well, if you're working in a separate branch then sure. Don't want to cripple the main one is all
[03:44] <robert_ancell> duflu, it's a separate branch
[03:45] <duflu> Ugh, same problems with Mesa. We really don't want to upstream egl-platform-mir with the open bugs we know about
[03:46] <duflu> Although that's less severe. Not really blocking I guess
[03:48] <RAOF> No, we don't want to upstream egl-platform-mir because we're about to completely rewrite it.
[03:48] <RAOF> From the interface up.
[03:50] <RAOF> Bugs are fine when submitting upstream; knowing that you're about to change the whole platform is not.
[03:51] <duflu> RAOF: That's worse. At least now it's stable and mature-ish. If we rewrite it we won't have the same confidence and definitely can't upstream any time soon
[03:51] <RAOF> We don't want to upstream mature code.
[03:51] <duflu> But maybe soon is not a requirement
[03:51] <RAOF> We want to upstream code that we *want* to mature.
[03:51] <RAOF> Ideally we should be upstreaming code *well* before its mature.
[03:51] <duflu> Fair point. Trunk isn't a place for maturation
[03:52] <RAOF> Also, upstreaming is highly likely to involve changes.
[03:52] <RAOF> Possibly significant ones.
[03:53] <RAOF> “Upstreaming” is almost never “here is this perfectly fine code ready to just drop without changes into your project”. Although, because we're awesome, that totally applies to the Mir EGL platform :)
[03:53] <duflu> RAOF: Can you add any more bugs detailing what's missing to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bugs?field.tag=egl-platform-mir
[03:54] <RAOF> Huh. Why do you want EGL_SWAP_BEHAVIOUR_PRESERVED?
[03:54] <RAOF> That's guaranteed to be slow.
[03:54] <duflu> RAOF: I know... but Xmir.  And the apps already exist
[03:55] <RAOF> You can implement it just as efficiently in Xmir, you know.
[03:56] <duflu> RAOF: I know and I tried. Failed so far for reasons... not entirely clear
[04:03] <duflu> Probably the same reasons why our src/dest FBOs are wrong (the stuttering)
[04:03] <duflu> At a guess
[04:04] <duflu> Single buffering would actually be most appropriate and have no performance penalty either
[04:05] <RAOF> Well, you can do that with MirPresentationChain.
[04:06] <RAOF> Indeed, that solves all your problems.
[04:06] <RAOF> Mostly.
[04:12] <duflu> It's not a massive issue right now as offenders are (confusingly) copying sub-buffers that are the whole window
[04:12] <TheKit> is Intel GPU currently not supported by Mir?
[04:12] <duflu> TheKit: Intel GPUs are better supported than any other :)
[04:12] <duflu> Have been for several years
[04:13] <TheKit> ah, ok, thanks
[04:13] <duflu> Hmm, actually that might be another Xmir bug
[04:21] <RAOF> MirPresentationChain would make it very nearly easy to implement DRI3.
[04:21] <RAOF> And then you could ignore all the DRI2 madness.
[04:24] <duflu> OK, sounds good.
[04:25] <RAOF> (We'd need to add a MirBuffer constructor that took an fd, but that's easy)
[04:25] <RAOF> *
[14:53] <alan_g> greyback: just to alert you, the miral-qt stuff needs some tweaks for yakkety (unity-shell-application) and for mir trunk (new DisplayConfiguration fields).