[22:36] <gnuskool> how to replace metacity with compiz in hardy?
[22:37] <_Carrie_> hello, I have a 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100] (rev a2) video card and my display couldn't be worse than it is currently. I just installed Hardy and it's terrible. Can someone help me? Thanks
[22:37] <jrib> !ccsm | gnuskool
[22:37] <jrib> gnuskool: system -> preferences -> appearance
[22:38] <gnuskool> 'compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> luminerd: yeah, save and reboot
[22:38] <redf1sh> hey, does ubuntu prove a highmem kernel? is that what the server version in the repos is?
[22:38] <Batty4> _Carrie_, when setting up my video, I found easiest was: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings; gksudo nvidia-settings
[22:38] <theshadow> how can I check the version of a package... like I have a lib installed but the name of it doesn't tell me what version it is
[22:38] <RoflCoptr> redf1sh: i think u want pae?
[22:38] <jrib> theshadow: apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[22:38] <RoflCoptr> 32 or 64bit?
[22:39] <_Carrie_> here's a preview of how awful my desktop looks after installing Hardy http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshottp8.png
[22:39] <redf1sh> roflCoptr: that would probabaly work, and 32 bit
[22:39] <RoflCoptr> yes, you want pae
[22:39] <theshadow> jrib: thank you much
[22:39] <Sad`Panda> bb
[22:40] <_Carrie_> thanks Batty4 I'll give it a try
[22:40] <Batty4> _Carrie_, mine was much worse.  Mine was so bad I was unable to use X, and was configuring from a laptop.
[22:40] <Goofee691> _Carrie_, is that ubuntu hardy or ubuntu ultimate?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> _Carrie_: you using compiz?
[22:40] <redf1sh> RoflCoptr and the linux-image-server have pae enabled?
[22:40] <_Carrie_> yes, it's Hardy and I'm using basic compiz (nothing with ccsm, just default ubuntu compiz)
[22:40] <pfo> what's the difference between ``where'' and ``let ... in ...'' ?
[22:41] <lacita> How do i change the snd-hda-intel module?
[22:41] <pfo> wrong chan, sorry.
[22:41] <luminerd> ActionParsnip: When I did that, I now get "Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode
[22:41] <RoflCoptr> yes redf1sh
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> _Carrie_: disable the compiz rubbish... does it look ok
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> luminerd: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[22:41] <Arney> anyone here have an invito to torrent leech!  i am WORTHY 5.3 ratio 106gb UL on MovieX.
[22:42] <apetrescu> I've got Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro, and I can mount the OS X partition just fine but for some reason certain directories in /Users (such as the default Music directory, for instance), are not readable from Ubuntu (permissions problems) unless I run as root. I've added the 'users' flag to the /etc/fstab entry, but still no luck. Anyone know how I can grant full read access to those dirs to non-admin users on Ubuntu
[22:42] <apetrescu> ? Thanks :)
[22:42] <_Carrie_> ActionParsnip, setting effects to "none" and the screen still looks like a freshly clubbed baby seal :(
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> !ot | arney
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> _Carrie_: then ask in #compiz
[22:42] <_Carrie_> let me restart X real quick since I've installed the nvidia drivers
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> _Carrie_: its that thats screwing your system. Compiz is 1. Worthless and 2 Breaks a lot of stuff
[22:43] <luminerd> ActionParsnip: Once I got past that dialog box though, it does appear to be in the proper resolution
[22:43] <x1250> hey guys, how can I get the font file name for "URW Gothic L" font? I need to send it to a windows machine
[22:43] <daniel_john> file://///usr/share/gnome/help/programming/C/programming.xml#_auto-gen-id-1   is producing an xml error
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> luminerd: ok cool
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> !fonts | x1250
[22:44] <luminerd> Ok I ran that command... now reboot?
[22:44] <Batty4> luminerd, run gksudo nvidia-settings to configure.  Easy to setup dual monitors and such with that.
[22:44] <itrebal> I've heard things that the Gnome network manager will be capable of handling multiple internet connections at once, is that true?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> luminerd: no, run it in your menus
[22:44] <roukoun> when I launch an application (like emacs) from the terminal the app is launched but it gives an output like the following: /home/roukoun/.gtkrc-2.0:2: Unable to find include file: ".gtkrc-2.0-gnome-color-chooser".... can anyone help?
[22:44] <itrebal> where would I find that out?
[22:44] <Hexus> ActionParsnip:  Still here huh?
[22:44] <luminerd> ActionParsnip: Sorry run what?
[22:44] <Daft_Punk> I just got my ubuntu CD in the mail. I wanted to know if there is a mailing list I can get put on so when a new distro comes out I can just recieve it asap
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> luminerd: gksu nvidia-settings
[22:44] <luminerd> Batty4: I don't have need for dual monitors, just need to get this working and then clone it to 20 other identical machines
[22:45] <hardcore> anyone else having a vlc problem?
[22:45] <_Carrie_> Batty4, that did the trick, thank you so much :)
[22:45] <hardcore> its all buggy so i switched to dragon player
[22:45] <Batty4> luminerd, that was just an example.  The nvidia-settings that you installed, will be accessed via that command.  Giving you an easy interface to use.
[22:45] <Batty4> _Carrie_, You're very welcome.
[22:46] <luminerd> is there an IRC client that comes with Ubuntu? switching computers is getting tiring heh
[22:46] <jrib> luminerd: pidgin
[22:46] <Daft_Punk> luminerd, xchat
[22:46] <luminerd> Also it's telling me that I don't appear to be using nvidia-x
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> !irc | luminerd
[22:46] <Batty4> I never tried IRC through pidgin.  Anyone use it?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Batty4: i do
[22:46] <jrib> luminerd: pidgin is installed by default.  xchat is a decent gui one you can install through the package managers
[22:46] <_Carrie_> now, does anyone know if there is a tool in ubuntu that will allow me to test my 56k modem? :)
[22:47] <apetrescu> Batty4, it's not very pleasant, at least for me :(
[22:47] <jrib> !dialup > _Carrie_
[22:47] <Mccayne> i can't find my sata disks, tried unplugging and adding acpi=off noapic to boot, but nothing. anyone?
[22:47] <Batty4> Is it just like an AOL chatroom?  I'm obsessed with XChat, and when at work I just use irssi.
[22:47] <roukoun> when I launch an application (like emacs) from the terminal the app is launched but it gives an output like the following: /home/roukoun/.gtkrc-2.0:2: Unable to find include file: ".gtkrc-2.0-gnome-color-chooser".... can anyone help?
[22:47] <orgthingy> hello
[22:47] <hardcore> pidgin doesn't have xchat
[22:47] <orgthingy> I updated today, but it asked me for THE SAME EXACT updates tonight
[22:48] <orgthingy> sounds weird
[22:48] <luminerd_> ubuntu doesn't have XChat
[22:48] <orgthingy> suspecious
[22:48] <Daft_Punk> I just got my ubuntu CD in the mail. I wanted to know if there is a mailing list I can get put on so when a new distro comes out I can just recieve it asap
[22:48] <luminerd_> anyway pidgin works
[22:48] <orgthingy> Ubuntu *has* xchat
[22:48] <luminerd_> Here's the error I'm getting: You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[22:48] <Batty4> luminerd, apt-get install xchat
[22:48] <apetrescu> Daft_Punk, yes, that's the ubuntu-devel-announce list :)
[22:48] <luminerd_> SHould I do as it says
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> hardcore: pidgin supports irc chat
[22:48] <luminerd_> no need Batty4
[22:48] <hardcore> its not in the accounts menu
[22:48] <KDB9000> Can someone help me with my bluetooth GPS? I am not sure how to get it to connect to my system so I can use gpsdrive or xgps to see the readers
[22:48] <Daft_Punk> apetrescu, how can i get on that list
[22:48] <apetrescu> Daft_Punk, you can sign up here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-announce
[22:48] <danbh_intrepid> Daft_Punk: I dont think there is.  I think the preferred speedy method is through bittorrent
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> luminerd: so you got a decent screen resolution now?
[22:49] <luminerd_> umm
[22:49] <Daft_Punk> danbh_intrepid, not if you have dialup
[22:49] <Daft_Punk> apetrescu, thanks
[22:49] <luminerd_> it's still kind of low ActionParsnip
[22:49] <luminerd_> And I get the "low graphics mode" message
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> luminerd: use nvidia-settings to crank it up
[22:49] <luminerd_> and the visual effects aren't workin
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> luminerd: no bad thing
[22:49] <Tonno> Hi,... there is a command that tell me the password in ubuntu 8.04?
[22:49] <Batty4> luminerd, Did you run gksudo nvidia-settings?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Tonno: doesnt exist
[22:50] <danbh_intrepid> Daft_Punk: just so you know, that list is not what you are looking for.  You will still have to order through shipit, and it will still take a long time...
[22:50] <Tonno> :O......
[22:50] <jrib> Tonno: no, the password is not stored.  A hash of the password is stored
[22:50] <JFB13> hey guys I have a p3 800mhz with 192 ram what would be best desktop for this so I can write programs and watch movies with ?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> Tonno: you set your own password
[22:50] <luminerd_> ActionParsnip: Batty4 yes, as I said, Nvidia settings gives me that error I pasted
[22:50] <roukoun> when I launch an application (e.g emacs) from the terminal the app is launched but it gives an output like the following: /home/my_username/.gtkrc-2.0:2: Unable to find include file: ".gtkrc-2.0-gnome-color-chooser".... can anyone help?
[22:50] <JFB13> xubuntu seems to be too heavy is there a lighter desktop?
[22:50] <jrib> roukoun: pastebin your ~/.gtkrc-2.0
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> roukoun: cd ~/; ls -a
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> roukoun: is the file there?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> JFB13: fluxbox
[22:51] <Tonno> Ahh Hi ActionParsnip... thanks for the help with my grafic cardin my PC
[22:51] <BlueLaguna> How do I figure out the uuid of a hard drive?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> JFB13: fluxbox kicks maximum ass
[22:51] <jrib> !uuid | BlueLaguna
[22:51] <Daft_Punk> danbh_intrepid, i did order through shipit and i got the cd, but the new distro is out at end of october, i dont wanna use shipit all the time, is there an automated way
[22:51] <Batty4> luminerd, ok, if you did I just learned from ActionParsnip you're setting up root with gksudo, with gksu you're setting up the user you're running.  You may have the correct setings for root now though.
[22:51] <luminerd_> ActionParsnip: In your Xorg.conf you had "subsection" right? It is telling me that is a parse error
[22:51] <hardcore> i think canonical should change their media defaults, especially for new users that want to play all their media from a default install
[22:51] <JFB13> ok will it be in the repositories or do I have to DL it?
[22:51] <BlueLaguna> jrib: thanks
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> luminerd: can you give a pastebin of your xorg.conf please
[22:51] <roukoun> ActionParsnip: no it isnt there
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> tonno: np man
[22:51] <Tonno> ;)
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> !paste | luminerd
[22:52] <Batty4> luminerd, what graphics card are you using?  I was getting an error, then I had to go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers and fix issue there.
[22:52] <danbh_intrepid> Daft_Punk: as I said before, no.  I think it says so on the shipit website.  Maybe a pay service somewhere else?  I dunno
[22:52] <unop> hardcore, it's easy said - there are a number of factors that don't permit that
[22:53] <_Carrie_> haha wow, I have a Conexant HSF 56k Data/Fax Modem modem and according to your bot, I'm going to have to pay $20.00 a year for the driver!
[22:53] <hardcore> oh the dvd legal stuff, right
[22:53] <gnuskool> i just installed an update on ff3, now firefox wont start
[22:53] <jrib> _Carrie_: you just pay once, they give you upgrades
[22:53] <luminerd_> Here is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m62ed81dd
[22:53] <JFB13> ActionParsnip "thanks"
[22:53] <hardcore> at least its easily bypassed by installing other types of players
[22:53] <unop> hardcore, proprietary formats and decoders, yea
[22:53] <roukoun> jrib: how to pastebinit... ?
[22:53] <jrib> !pastebin > roukoun
[22:53] <_Carrie_> jrib, well that's the problem, I've no money, I guess it's back to windows for me lol thanks anyways.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> JFB13: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[22:53] <hardcore> and thats where dragon player comes in
[22:53] <unop> hardcore, right, which is why those players/codecs are not installed by default - there are legal issues
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> JFB13: logoff and change the session type, you'll have all your gnome apps, just a lighter front
[22:54] <luminerd_> I think it changed some stuff when I ran that command you told me
[22:54] <luminerd_> maybe I should reboot and see what happens
[22:54] <JFB13> ActionParsnip : ok thanks man will do have a nice day : )
[22:55] <luminerd_> brb
[22:55] <psykidellic> Alright, my ogg and mp3 are being played by Mplayer but not with RhythmBox? Any ideas?
[22:55] <mach> what kernel is in the current 8.04 ubuntu installer (alternate)
[22:56] <unop> mach, you can find out at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[22:56] <gnuskool> installLocation:engine has no file ...thats the message im getting from a ff3 upgrade a few minutes ago - anyone else?
[22:56] <Ninesvnsicks> found out the snapping problem it was under wobbly windows > snap inverted
[22:56] <gnuskool> someone plz ggogle that error for me would'ya?
[22:57] <andril> anyone know a good backup program in .deb format?
[22:57] <itrebal> is anyone familiar with the Gnome networking tool supporting multiple ethernet connections? I've heard a rumer it'll be supported in 8.10, but just want to make sure
[22:57] <cafuego> rdiff-backup
[22:57] <luminerd_> Ok, I got the nvidia logo, and it appears to be running at a high resolution. However somtehing weird is going in. None of the apps I launch have a title bar...
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: ok great, you need to add Option          "AddARGBGLXVisuals"     "True"
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: to the screen section
[22:58] <andril> cafuego: is it good
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: nvidia logo == driver is loaded
[22:59] <cafuego> andril: Install it, try it, form an opinion.
[22:59] <cafuego> andril: it works fine for me, I can't know if it's appropriate to your needs.
[22:59] <andril> cool
[22:59] <luminerd_> Any idea what could cause that? It's really weird, everything works but no title bar (so I cant drag it around)
[22:59] <cafuego> andril: It's nicely scriptable though
[22:59] <luminerd_> oh whoops
[22:59] <luminerd_> sec
[22:59] <andril> cafuego: just incase my system has to be reinstalled due to my errors -
[23:00] <luminerd_> ActionParsnip:  what section do I add that in
[23:00] <d4nii> i need help plz     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=930047
[23:00] <luminerd_> oy
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: read the text again
[23:00] <luminerd_> Never mind sorry pidgin is freaking out sec
[23:00] <WDC_> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu 804 server, and I cannot figure out what su password is. I never set it
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: that line fixes a weird thing for nvidia cards
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: i dont actually know what it is but it makes things nice
[23:01] <WDC_> What is the default su password?
[23:02] <luminerd_> just anywhere in the screen section? Not in a subsection or anythign?
[23:02] <WDC_> I JUST installed Server and I Never set the root password,
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> WDC_: there isnt one, you need to set it with sudo passwd
[23:02] <cars__> WDC_: There is no default root password.
[23:02] <chubs> WDC_, use sudo
[23:02] <WDC_> ActionParsnip: How do I do that?
[23:02] <WDC_> oh
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> WDC_: you'll never need it as your user can sudo and gksu stuff
[23:02] <antiii> Can I restore a folder I recently deleted?
[23:02] <luminerd_> brb trying with your optiopn
[23:02] <cars__> !sudo
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> WDC_: but its better to set it so it isnt blank
[23:03] <Batty4> WDC_, sudo passwd     You will be asked for your password 3 times at that time.
[23:03] <WDC_> ActionParsnip: Batty4 Thanks
[23:03] <roukoun> jrib: my .gtkrc-2.0 has only the following content: "include .gtkrc-2.0-gnome-color-chooser"
[23:03] <antiii> Any way thats possible?
[23:03] <Batty4> WDC_, Welcome.
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> antiii: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howtorecover-and-undelete-text-file-in.html
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> antiii: or restore from backup
[23:04] <jrib> roukoun: so that's why you are getting the output
[23:04] <kris> my system is going very slow. why?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> kris: whats spec is your pc?
[23:04] <danbh_intrepid> !noroot > Batty4
[23:05] <Mccayne> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5855901#post5855901 anyone?
[23:05] <kris> ActionParsnip: poor 1.0 celeron 128 mb ram
[23:05] <roukoun> jrib: so where can I find the .gtkrc-2.0-gnome-color-chooser?
[23:05] <kris> ActionParsnip:  but sometimes it goes right sometimes wrong
[23:05] <luminerd_> ActionParsnip: Added your option,back to no nvidia logo/low graphics mode
[23:05] <jrib> roukoun: just delet your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 (or rename it)
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> kris: are you running ubuntu or something different?
[23:05] <kris> ActionParsnip:  ubuntu 8.04
[23:05] <cars__> I finally got the ethernet to work with Samba using a single cable (connected at 1000M), but it is going extremely slow (starts a file with a boost of ~100kbps and rapidly decreases and stalls) and is unable to finish anything but the smallest files.  Does anyone know why this is happening?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> kris: id install fluxbox or xfce-desktop
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> kris: you may also want to install your graphics drivers if you already havent
[23:06] <kris> ActionParsnip:  on fluxbox or xfce-desktop ? aren't there any ?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: well your really close, what did you do before to get a good res?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> kris: you need a lighter desktop for 128mb, xfce or fluxbox will help that
[23:07] <luminerd_> ActionParsnip: Umm, I ran some commands that you told me. nvidia-config I believe
[23:07] <bastid_raZor> I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/razor/.compiz/session/default0"  :how may i fix this warning?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: gksu nvidia-config
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: you can run history to see the last commands
[23:08] <luminerd_> I should do that again?
[23:08] <kris> ActionParsnip:  ok thx for tip
[23:08] <cafuego> bastid_raZor: warnings you generally don't worry about, only errors.
[23:08] <bruenig> kris: or use dwm
[23:08] <luminerd_> I ran that I also ran without the gksu
[23:08] <luminerd_> and it told me to run nvidia-xconfig
[23:08] <luminerd_> that's probably what did it
[23:08] <bastid_raZor> cafuego; well, it seems to the only warning i get that may explain why compiz does not properly load my settings
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> kris: if you run lspci you will see what you have and you can install from there
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> kris: id also get some more ram if you can, SDRAM is pretty cheap
[23:09] <jasunto> does anyone know why i cant use srm on ubuntu, thats secure remove, does it need install?
[23:10] <andril> any opinions to zeroinstall?
[23:10] <kris> hmmm
[23:11] <PostersandGuitar> Is it still unsafe to update GVFS
[23:11] <luminerd_> ActionParsnip: Should I run that command again?
[23:11] <bastid_raZor> jasunto; srm does not exist in hardy.
[23:12] <kris> ActionParsnip:  burening: what can i do right now? on my computer ubuntu sholdnt ever go but it does maybe i can fasten it by removing software?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: whatever made it work, do it
[23:12] <PostersandGuitar> ?
[23:12] <luminerd_> ok ActionParsnip But it didn't work totally, there were no title bars :( also it got rid of that extra option you had me put in
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: youve added that line in xorg.conf so they will stay
[23:13] <cars__> I finally got Ethernet to work with Samba using a single CAT5 cable (connected at 1000M), but it is going extremely slow (starts a file with a boost of ~100kbps and rapidly decreases and stalls) and is unable to finish anything but the smallest files.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> add it once its done its trick
[23:13] <PostersandGuitar> Is GVFS still unsafe to update?
[23:13] <luminerd_> ok i'll try a reboot then thank you so much for your help
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> PostersandGuitar: gvfs
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> ?
[23:14] <PostersandGuitar> Yeah, is safe to update it?
[23:14] <tico> Hi, where would i add a script to be launched when the user logs in, im customizing the live cd. somewhere in init.rd or where/
[23:14] <Jowi> cars__, repeaters
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> PostersandGuitar: what is it?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> !startup | tico
[23:14] <PostersandGuitar> Irrelevant, if you don't know what is how can you help?
[23:14] <nach> hi can someone explain me this line : "start on stopped rcS" in /etc/event.d/rc-default ?
[23:14] <st3ph> hiya ActionParsnip
[23:15] <tico> !boot | tico
[23:15] <cars__> Jowi: repeaters?  It's a five foot cable.  I don't think there's any signal loss, if that's what you're getting at.
[23:15] <PostersandGuitar> Is it safe to update GVFS?
[23:15] <danbh_intrepid> PostersandGuitar: when did it become unsafe to use?  (im running intrepid, and it crashes all the time.  So, I sure hope its safe...)
[23:15] <Jowi> cars__, you said 1000 M haha
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> PostersandGuitar: well if someone said FF, it could be a whole array of apps, mostly it means firfox but it could be someting else
[23:15] <nach> hi can someone explain me this line : "start on stopped rcS" in /etc/event.d/rc-default ?
[23:15] <PostersandGuitar> Oh.
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> PostersandGuitar: im sure very few know what the initials mean so me asking what it is is VERY relevant
[23:15] <jasunto> can srm be installed?
[23:15] <compy> anyone willing to help me figure out how to get my keyboard sound shortcuts to work in 8.04?  I went to the keyboard pref and they are set right... just dont work
[23:15] <jasunto> or can something similiar be used?
[23:16] <cars__> Jowi: No, I meant connected with a Gigabit speed :)
[23:16] <PostersandGuitar> Well, I had a problem with Nautilus, and drives not mounting or appearing, and ?I was told here that it was caused by updating GVFS from the updater, I don't know what it stands for.
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> PostersandGuitar: im asking a civil question so i can do some websearching so i can help yuo but you have a terrible attitude
[23:16] <Jowi> cars__, talking to vista, xp or other linux boxes?
[23:16] <luminerd_> Again, no title bars.
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: id websearch some, i think theres another line yu can add#
[23:17] <cars__> Jowi: Vista.. ><
[23:17] <jasunto> I have a latitude d630 dell and the sound button just worked
[23:17] <jasunto> actually everything did
[23:17] <danbh_intrepid> ActionParsnip: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVFS
[23:17] <danbh_intrepid> PostersandGuitar: are you running hardy?
[23:17] <jasunto> who
[23:18] <jasunto> nevermind
[23:18] <jasunto> srm for ubuntu?
[23:18] <PostersandGuitar> yes, I'm running hardy
[23:19] <choukath> re
[23:20] <Jowi> cars__, is it one way from ubuntu to vista, from vista to ubuntu or both that are slow?
[23:20] <keres> hey could someone help me with 9800 drivers momentarilly
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> PostersandGuitar: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/gvfs-in-hardy
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> PostersandGuitar: gvfs == gnome virtual file system
[23:20] <Guest34386> salve!
[23:20] <keres> i installed the drivers manually but it still lists them as "not in use"
[23:21] <kitche> keres: it will if you didn't use the ubuntu way
[23:21] <kris> could you help with web browser crashing ?
[23:21] <keres> what u mean kitche
[23:21] <cars__> Jowi: Both ways are slow, though I did not try any file transfers Vista>Ubuntu, browsing directories took several seconds.
[23:21] <PostersandGuitar> Yes, but is it safe to use
[23:21] <SebNaitsabes> ert3:  ok we are last.fm buddys now
[23:21] <keres> kitche can i private msg u
[23:21] <SebNaitsabes> ah wrong tab
[23:21] <PostersandGuitar> how do I hide an update?
[23:22] <kitche> keres: if yuo didn't install the drivers using the package restricted manager will always say not in use
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> cars__: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/extremly-slow-samba-536370/
[23:22] <Jowi> cars__, do you see any authentication errors in the samba log?
[23:22] <keres> kitche: can i private message you?
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> cars__: it helps if you add the hostname and ip in /etc/hosts file
[23:22] <luminerd_> w00t
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: all good?
[23:23] <luminerd_> It works, thank you so much.  Just had to add 2 options I found by googling "no title bars ubuntu" hehe
[23:23] <kris> crash
[23:23] <kris> crash
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: yeah i knew of 2 lines but i only need 1 for mine, wtg!
[23:23] <luminerd_> thank you for your help!
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: i try
[23:24] <mww113> Hello
[23:24] <crash> dfgadfg
[23:24] <crash> hello
[23:24] <luminerd_> Can you recoment a utility that will let me copy the entire hard drive, and clone it bootably? So that I can use that backup to "restore" to the 20 other identical machines in my office?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> luminerd_: as you have used nvidia-glx and not envyng you will not have any issues with kernel updates
[23:24] <WDC_> I don't have a GUI and need to download a souce package froM CLI. How do I do that?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> !clone | luminerd_
[23:25] <cars__> Jowi, I'll check.  ActionParsnip, I'll try that.
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> WDC_: wget
[23:25] <thunderdan> i have a linksys wireless router that was configured in windows, then was not used for a couple of years. i have just installed it in my apartment, with a desktop connected by ethernet cable and a laptop connected wirelessly. the network name is still the same as it was when the router was set up in windows. however, there is no WPA security or WEP or anything. how do i configure the router to use WPA security?
[23:25] <WDC_> ActionParsnip: Thanks. I had heard of it
[23:25] <luminerd_> what are packages?
[23:25] <me> hey
[23:25] <PostersandGuitar> luminerd: installers, more or less
[23:25] <WDC_> luminerd_: Tings that get you all the dependencies and work sort of like a .exe on win
[23:25] <luminerd_> Hmm. Wel I need to clone the full drive, not sure what installers would help me with
[23:26] <kris> all registered
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> thunderdan: access the router via web browser, put its ip address as the site to visit and login to the config
[23:26] <jasunto> anyone knowledgeable in 8.04 wpa2 before login?
[23:26] <Bogus8> anyone using links?  Is there a way to enable java support using the ubuntu package?
[23:26] <Bogus8> sorry Elinks
[23:26] <mww113> I run ubuntu with the kubuntu-desktib package installed. I wanted to switch back to GNOME. I set GNOME as my default session and I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure KDE to get GDM working again. I was wondering, when I start the system, how to I change the kubuntu loading screen to the ubuntu loading screen, It shouldn't make much of a difference but I would like to know.
[23:26] <dave__> hey, Is there anyone here that has used an ubuntu box to develop java apps for sony ericsson phones (w810i type phones)? Sony only provide easy to use stuff for windows which I don't have access to
[23:26] <danbh_intrepid> Bogus8: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:26] <thunderdan> actionparsnip: thank you. i'll try that.
[23:27] <guybrush_threepw> that's all
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> thunderdan: you'll ned the manual from the routers manufacturers site
[23:27] <thunderdan> actionparsnip: ok
[23:27] <Bogus8> danbh_intrepid: without installing X
[23:27] <CorbinFox> the diskmounter applet on my desktop isn't letting me mount my other partitions, it gives me an empty warning box, but i can still mouth it through the other normal ways.  whats up?
[23:28] <Bogus8> danbh_intrepid: this is a headless system and I don't need/want X on it
[23:28] <WDC_> ActionParsnip: wget is not found as a commnad
[23:28] <BramCI> hi, I want to modifie an animated gif, witch software should I use ?
[23:28] <danbh_intrepid> Bogus8: look at the sun-java6* packages
[23:28] <Bogus8> I've read of the library it depends on for compiling java support but will having that library work using the ubuntu package?
[23:29] <compy> anyone knokw why my mp3's play no sound, but i can hear sounds from the internet
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> WDC_: sudo apt-get install wget
[23:29] <WDC_> ActionParsnip: Okay, thanks
[23:29]  * ActionParsnip thought wget was very standard
[23:29] <guybrush_threepw> )
[23:29] <guybrush_threepw> :)
[23:29] <lacita> Flare183: Hey all. I need to properly configure ALSA on my Lenovo y410 7757 laptop. I have no sound, and am running a restricted wireless driver (Intel PRO/wireless 3945). It has something to do with the intel chipset.
[23:29] <lacita> Hey all. I need to properly configure ALSA on my Lenovo y410 7757 laptop. I have no sound, and am running a restricted wireless driver (Intel PRO/wireless 3945). It has something to do with the intel chipset.
[23:30] <lacita> sry.
[23:30] <compy_> anyone know why i cant hear my mp3's through vlc, mplayer, or anything else, but sounds on the internet i can hear fine?
[23:30] <_Carrie_> !dialup
[23:30] <jfxd> compy_: You may need an mp3 codec
[23:30] <lacita> compy_: idk, but maybe it's a codec issue?
[23:30] <CorbinFox> the diskmounter applet on my desktop isn't letting me mount my other partitions, it gives me an empty warning box, but i can still mouth it through the other normal ways.  whats up?
[23:31] <compy> hmm any way i can just download them all?
[23:31] <thunderdan> actionparsnip: how do i determine the ip address of the router?
[23:31] <WDC_> ActionParsnip: Thanks, works
[23:31] <compy> i have done all those unrestricted extras stuff and css2
[23:31] <keres> someone please help me with installing 9800 drivers?
[23:31] <mww113> Would anyone mind if I PM them?
[23:31] <_Carrie_> https://help.ubuntu.com nearly unresponsive to anyone else?
[23:31] <danbh_intrepid> ActionParsnip: its in ubuntu-standard
[23:31] <keres> i manually installed them but they still say "not in use"
[23:31] <anders_> _Carrie_, not working for me
[23:32] <keres> and i was told to install it using restricted driver manage but i do not know how to do that
[23:32] <danbh_intrepid> keres: you just check the box
[23:32] <keres> danbh: it is checked
[23:33] <_Carrie_> great :/
[23:33] <keres> danbh_intrepid: and if i uncheck it i have to reset xorg.conf
[23:33] <danbh_intrepid> keres: erm, actually, I cant help you.  I just select the driver, and hit install, but I thought it was simple...
[23:33] <keres> not with 9800 drivers i guess lol.
[23:33] <danbh_intrepid> keres: are you sure its not working?
[23:33] <keres> yes
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> thunderdan: ifconfig...its your default gateway
[23:33] <Adman65> hey
[23:34] <lfaraone> Hey, what's the ubuntu equivelent of the debian package libgssapi4-heimdal ?
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> WDC_: sweet :)
[23:34] <danbh_intrepid> keres: is this a new card?  new on the market?
[23:34] <keres> i manually installed the drivers as a root, but then it check marks it and still labels it as "not in use"
[23:34] <Adman65> im having a weird problem with avant-window-navigator
[23:34] <keres> yes, new card
[23:34] <Adman65> i can only have 7 launchers
[23:34] <keres> but i have been told to install drivers manually to get it to work
[23:34] <danbh_intrepid> keres: you may have to wait for intrepid, which is only a month away
[23:34] <lacita> Hey all. I need to properly configure ALSA on my Lenovo y410 7757 laptop. I have no sound, and am running a restricted wireless driver (Intel PRO/wireless 3945). It has something to do with the intel chipset.
[23:34] <bonez46> is it possible to install and run adobe flash player... on ubuntu?
[23:34] <_Carrie_> well, since the help site is down, can anyone advise how I would test my dialup modem? Is there a terminal command or something I can use to test if it picks up/dials?
[23:34] <keres> danbh_intrepid: what is that
[23:34] <Bogus8> danbh_intrepid: I already have the java libraries installed and I just installed the required libraries for elinks to compile support "libmozjs-dev" but still says "not enabled"
[23:35] <lacita> bonez46: look into Wine http://winehq.org
[23:35] <DEViUS> i have playback problems on my computer (i cant listen to music in rythmbox and in the same time hear the sound effects in my favourite games in firefox)
[23:35] <danbh_intrepid> keres: next version of ubuntu
[23:35] <keres> danbh_intrepid: will i have to format again?
[23:36] <danbh_intrepid> keres: no
[23:36] <keres> danbh_intrepid: how do you upgrade?
[23:36] <danbh_intrepid> keres: update-manager
[23:36] <keres> oh
[23:36] <_Carrie_> update-manager -d
[23:36] <DEViUS> i have playback problems on my computer (i cant listen to music in rythmbox and in the same time hear the sound effects in my favourite games in firefox)
[23:36] <danbh_intrepid> _Carrie_: no, when its released, you dont need the -d
[23:36] <keres> danbh_intrepid: the nvidia drivers are the problem, i think, not ubuntu
[23:37] <keres> danbh_intrepid: i presume this is a problem on all linux distros due to nvidia's lack of 9800 linux support
[23:37] <DEViUS> i have playback problems on my computer (i cant listen to music in rythmbox and in the same time hear the sound effects in my favourite games in firefox)
[23:38] <danbh_intrepid> keres: its because support for new hardware only comes out on new versions of ubuntu, so if the card came out after hardy came out, then its not supported
[23:38] <_Carrie_> !patience | DEViUS
[23:38] <danbh_intrepid> keres: AFAIK
[23:38] <CorbinFox> the diskmounter applet on my desktop isn't letting me mount my other partitions, it gives me an empty warning box, but i can still mount it through the other normal ways.  whats up?
[23:38] <wifihelp> hi....  I need to get wifi up on a vaio....  can somebody link me an easy tut?
[23:38] <DEViUS> _Carrie_: dont worry im patient im just trying to catch attention
[23:39] <keres> 9800 was released early this year
[23:39] <shearn89> exit
[23:39] <rahduke> hey can someone help me please, HD videos don't play on my machine anymore. They used to work fine but since i've installed some programs they no longer play correctly and my system basically comes to a halt
[23:39] <rahduke> please help
[23:39] <keres> danbh_intrepid: 9800 was released early this year. when was hardy released?
[23:39] <_Carrie_> DEViUS, it's considered spamming, at least let the question leave your buffer before spamming it to the channel like that.
[23:39] <DEViUS> _Carrie_: ok
[23:40] <Gr33n3gg> Hardy was released on 8 04
[23:40] <keres> 8/04?
[23:40] <thunderdan> actionparsnip: i don't see anything that says default gateway
[23:40] <SebNaitsabes> [23:39] <DeathStar> 90 days till Christmas :-)) <Scottie>
[23:40] <SebNaitsabes> [23:40] <Naitsabes> fuck you
[23:40] <SebNaitsabes> [23:40] [Notice] -DeathStar- No such command [FUCK]. /msg DeathStar SHOWCOMMANDS
[23:40] <FloodBot1> SebNaitsabes: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:40] <Stepa1> My hard drive is making a lot of noise.  It sounds like a car accelerating and slowing down and so on.
[23:40] <rahduke> if someone can tell me how to completely remove all my codecs video programs and any remnants that mess everything up in 8.04 i can start fresh
[23:40] <PostersandGuitar> I'm looking at my drive in GParted, and I see a bunch of seemingly overlapping partitions, and such. How do I tell which are safe to resize?
[23:40] <Gr33n3gg> sorry, 04, 2008
[23:40] <SebNaitsabes> wrong tab
[23:40] <SebNaitsabes> ah
[23:40] <keres> 04 of what month?
[23:40] <DEViUS> i have playback problems on my computer (i cant listen to music in rythmbox and in the same time hear the sound effects in my favourite games in firefox)
[23:40] <Gr33n3gg> No, thats the month.
[23:41] <PostersandGuitar> what are linux-swap partitions for?
[23:41] <keres> no the 9800 was released like 5 months before hardy was
[23:41] <CorbinFox> DEViUS: do you have the restricted extras installed?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> thunderdan: can i see your ifconfig output please, use pastebin
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> !paste | thunderdan
[23:41] <Gr33n3gg> I thought the 9800 series was released in February :S
[23:41] <DEViUS> CorbinFox: let me check
[23:42] <DEViUS> CorbinFox: you mean those for the alsa
[23:42] <keres> really? isn't that still before hardy was released?
[23:42] <Gr33n3gg> Yes.
[23:42] <tpg> Good evening
[23:42] <lonejack> Hi, I'm trying to create a user named www-data but the system tell me that it exists yet. Problem, isn't present in user's list. Can somebody help me? Thank you
[23:42] <keres> then why does hardy not have support for 9800s?
[23:42] <PostersandGuitar> Is there a way to unmount my /partiton
[23:42] <CorbinFox> DEViUS: go into add remove programs, and search for restricted extras, see if you have it installed, if not then install it and try your music again.
[23:42] <thunderdan> action parsnip: one moment ...
[23:42] <fiber> hello... so, i was trying to mess around with a SD card and acidentally zeroed the the partition table for the drive with my root partition (i know... it's been a great day.).  does anyone have advice as to how i can recover things?  the partition on the drive was ext3 (and there was also a swap on it)
[23:43] <danbh_intrepid> keres: is that by 2 months?  It needs to be like 6 months.  Because of the testing cycle of ubuntu, driver uptake is slooowww.....
[23:43] <pyrak> where is the pdf printing program?
[23:43] <pyrak> /usr/bin/something?
[23:43] <PostersandGuitar> need some help...
[23:43] <keres> danbh_intrepid: really? dang...
[23:43] <tpg> My firefox is acting odd, and Ubuntu standard music player:rhythmbox, is malfunctioning, with firefox i cannot see the link of the website i am on at the moment in the adress bar, and i cannot use the bookmark utility, also back and forth from web-pages does not work, with the music player i cannot listen to any music, i get some sort of error
[23:43] <DEViUS> CorbinFox: done, does it need restart / restart X
[23:43] <keres> danbh_intrepid: what is the actual release date of intrepid?
[23:44] <tpg> does anyone know how to fix this? i have tried Complete removal with synaptic for firefox and reinstallation a few times
[23:44] <thunderdan> actionparsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/50649/
[23:44] <danbh_intrepid> keres: but really, its in intrepid, which comes out in a month.
[23:44] <CorbinFox> DEViUS: id ont think so, once it is installed then just try playing an mp3
[23:44] <keres> danbh_intrepid: release date? or exactly one month from today?
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> fiber: you need dd_rescue and testdisk
[23:44] <danbh_intrepid> keres: 30th
[23:45] <keres> danbh_intrepid: of october?
[23:45] <fiber> ActionParsnip: i love you! awesome, thanks!
[23:45] <luminerd> What is emerald?  Is it akin to compiz and beryl?
[23:45] <PostersandGuitar> Hi, I need some help
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> thunderdan: possibly <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:45] <WDC> Hey Hey!
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> fiber: use dd_rescue to create an image, then use test disk on the image to recover files
[23:45] <WDC> When I go apt-get install irssi, it says package not found. What's the problem
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> WDC: hey hey
[23:45] <danbh_intrepid> keres: yes of course
[23:45] <keres> danbh_intrepid: ok thnx
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> WDC: sudo apt-get update first
[23:45] <luminerd> And what is the default in gnome?  What is it using, if I enabled the desktop effects...mainly I just want to know how to find themes, I got some .emerald files but it doesn't know how to open them
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> !info irssi
[23:46]  * WDC trie
[23:46] <evilbug> luminerd - it's a window customizing tool.
[23:46] <guybrush_threepw> hot install java applets on firefox ?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> luminerd: you need to install emerald
[23:46] <luminerd> I did install it
[23:46] <guybrush> ???
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> luminerd: for compiz help, head into #compiz
[23:46] <luminerd> but it doesn't run without a terminal window open
[23:46] <WDC> ActionParsnip: Ign cdrom://Ubuntu-Server 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20080423.2) hardy/main Translation-en_US
[23:46] <guybrush> please help me how to install java on forefox
[23:46] <luminerd> I don't really want to do anything funky, I just want to know where I can go for themes that will work out of the box in Gnome/Ubuntu
[23:46] <Daps> Hi, i installed vsftpd, but when i tried to add users, i couldn't there seems to be no /etc/vsftp folder on my computer
[23:47] <thunderdan> actionparsnip: yes, i think so. i'm being prompted with a username/password screen. i don't remember my username or password, though.
[23:47] <Daps> how can I add users who are restricted? when i log in myself, i see my ENTIRE computer, even the desktop... I need to limit others who log in, any help ?
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> guybrush: i got it with iced-tea
[23:47] <tpg> Does anyone have an answer to my question?(scroll up)
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> thunderdan: read the manual for it, or you wil need to factory reset it and then you will need to reconfigure the wholething
[23:48] <L> hi
[23:48] <springmeyer> how does ubuntu/linux associate .png images with default viewers?
[23:48] <springmeyer> I need to know the correct way to open a png from the command line (ie on mac $ my.png and on windows: $ start my.png)
[23:48] <thunderdan> actionparsnip: thank you. you have me on the right track now.
[23:48] <[Solars]> erm I have a error from grub and not sure how to fix it, basically its error 21
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> guybrush: sudo apt-get install icedtea-gcjwebplugin icedtea-java7-bin icedtea-java7-jre icedtea-java7-plugin
[23:48] <CorbinFox> the diskmounter applet on my desktop isn't letting me mount my other partitions, it gives me an empty warning box, but i can still mount it through the other normal ways.  whats up?
[23:48] <springmeyer> err on a mac you do '$ open my.png'
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> CorbinFox: is there a folder in ~/ called .diskmounter
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> CorbinFox: or similar? Ive not used it, I always use fstab or mount
[23:49] <player> what is the path to trash on xterm ?
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> !trash | player
[23:50] <WDC> ActionParsnip: Ign cdrom://Ubuntu-Server 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20080423.2) hardy/restricted Translation-en_US
[23:50] <player> thanks
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> WDC: yeah? :/
[23:50] <luminerd> Where can I go for gnome themes that will work out of the box on Ubuntu
[23:50] <WDC> ActionParsnip: What do I do?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> !themes | luminerd
[23:51] <_Carrie_> luminerd, www.gnome-look.org
[23:51] <CorbinFox> ActionParsnip: i dont know what folder you are talking about really :/
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> CorbinFox: ~/ == /home/yourname
[23:51] <luminerd> Ok, thank you, but that site has all sortes of things.  My question is really, what am I looking for
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> luminerd: what are you trying to do?
[23:51] <guybrush> ActionParsnip:  there is no  icedtea-java7-bin
[23:51] <luminerd> There's like, emerald, beryl, I don't want to mess with any of that--I want it to "just work" on my default gnome setup
[23:51] <_Carrie_> luminerd, stick with GTK2.X and  you'll be good
[23:51] <guybrush> ActionParsnip:  ??
[23:51] <springmeyer> how do you open an image file from the command line  on linux?
[23:51] <luminerd> Cool thank you!
[23:51] <WDC> ActionParsnip: Ign cdrom://Ubuntu-Server 8.04 _Hardy Heron_ - Release i386 (20080423.2) hardy/restricted Translation-en_US
[23:51] <DEViUS> CorbinFox: nope: still same problem
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> WDC: sudo apt-get instal irissi
[23:51] <CorbinFox> Actionparsnip: thats what i was thining, I'm looking through right now
[23:52] <WDC> ActionParsnip: It still says not found
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> guybrush: try tab completing
[23:52] <CorbinFox> DEViUS: hmm, if that doesnt fix it then my limited knowledge has failed you
[23:52] <DEViUS> CorbinFox: thanks anyway
[23:52] <DEViUS> i have playback problems on my computer (i cant listen to music in rythmbox and in the same time hear the sound effects in my favourite games in firefox)
[23:53] <tpg> My firefox is acting odd, and Ubuntu standard music player:rhythmbox, is malfunctioning, with firefox i cannot see the link of the website i am on at the moment in the adress bar, and i cannot use the bookmark utility, also back and forth from web-pages does not work, with the music player i cannot listen to any music, i get some sort of error
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> WDC: add deb http://www.davidpashley.com/debian/irssi/ ./ to /etc/apt/sources.lst
[23:53] <Enkazin> anyone know off hand if ubuntu will work on a Toshiba Satallite L305 notebook without many problems?
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> WDC: Then run apt-get update; apt-get install irssi
[23:53] <WDC> ActionParsnip: Thanks yall
[23:54] <Gr33n3gg> Enkazin: Google it for better answers.
[23:54] <Enkazin> I have googled it
[23:54] <player> how do I change permitions recursivelly on a directory ?
[23:54] <Enkazin> and I get ads after ads of pages wanting to sell it
[23:54] <Gr33n3gg> You might as well try it, run it as a LiveCD.
[23:54] <anders_> player, chmod -R
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> guybrush: just like you tab complete my name, try tab completing after you type the word iced
[23:54] <izmitLi> hey Turkis Speak ?
[23:54] <Jeruvy> tpg: try hitting f11 to get the address bar back
[23:54] <kitche> player: chmod -R but becareful since if you change the permissions to a certain directories it will mess your system up
[23:54] <[Solars]> Anyone familiar with Grub error 21?
[23:55] <CorbinFox> Actionparsnip: dont see it
[23:55] <guybrush> ActionParsnip:  there is no such file to get (download)
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> CorbinFox: are you runnig the mounting application with gksu?
[23:55] <d4nii> DEViUS: install libflashsupport from Synaptic
[23:55] <player> can I erase a read only file with sudo without changing permitions on that file, with remove?
[23:56] <tpg> Jeruvy: that doesnt work, it just removes the upper part of firefox(upper than the adress bar)
[23:56] <CorbinFox> ActionParsnip: its just the disk mounter applet that you can put on a desktop panel when you Right click it, go Add To Panel, and drag it on.  i dont know what program it is attached to, its just called the "Disk Mounter" version 2.22.2
[23:57] <DEViUS> d4nii: i use "alsa" not pulse audio?
[23:57] <Jeruvy> tpg: f10 is presentation mode(?) and removes the address bar, but f11 should restore it
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> guybrush: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/11156516/icedtea-java7-bin_7%7Eb24-1.5-1_i386.deb
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> guybrush: you will need ia32 libs
[23:57] <tpg> jeruvy: well the adress bar is not gone, it just doesnt function well, i dont see the link of the page im on and it doesnt change when i go to another page, also Back function doesnt work, and bookmarks
[23:57] <player> how do I rm a directory?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> player: rm -rf <folder name>
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> player: be aware, its VERY agressive and should be used RARELY
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> player: be sure you need nothing in the folder and anything below
[23:58] <LordOllie> it can do nasty things when used with root permissions
[23:58] <daysleepr> i'm sure this is a basic question but i just can't find the answer anywhere...
[23:59] <daysleepr> you know how you can do alt+tab to switch between active applications
[23:59] <daysleepr> whats the combo to switch between desktops?
[23:59] <Derrike> I've been getting an error about three or four times in a row, and I'm taking it's not bad luck. I'm installing via liveCD and it always hangs at 15% of the install (Detecting file systems...)
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> CorbinFox: you'll need gksu as only root can mount
[23:59] <LordOllie> daysleepr, mine is ctrl+alt+left(or right), but I may have changed it at sometime


[01:56] <bryceh> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/n/node-caniuse-db/jammy/i386 --- what does "code 14" mean?
[02:19] <sarnold> darktable in #ubuntu had a hirsute -> impish upgrade blow up, and usrmerge seems to have been involved somehow, https://pastebin.com/AnVB5zJv  -- while trying to walk him through piecing his system back together, some of us found we've got /bin -> /usr/bin symlinks, and some of us don't have such symlinks.. what's the long-term plan for harmonizing everyone's setups?
[02:19] <sarnold> (sigh, darktrick, not darktable)
[02:45] <DarkTrick> I added a persistent question here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1379811/usrmerge-of-bin-sbin-lib-how-is-the-system-supposed-to-be
[02:46] <DarkTrick> I hope I got the details right. I hope for a quick answer to straighten out my system :)
[03:08] <mwhudson> sarnold: using do-release-upgrade vs editing /apt/sources.list directly?
[03:09] <sarnold> mwhudson: do-release-upgrade, heh, that was my first question :)
[03:09] <sarnold> oh hah DarkTrick's in here, too :) I guess I'm not super-observant
[03:10] <mwhudson> although usrmerge is recommended by ubuntu-minimal now so you'd have to try moderately hard not to have it?
[03:12] <sarnold> mwhudson: hmnm, maybe; I certainly went through an awkard enough install process myself that I'm not surprised I don't have the usrmerge package installed, but I *do* have the /bin -> /usr/bin etc symlinks. (I don't understand it.)
[03:12] <mwhudson> sarnold: well either your system came that way or you had it and uninstalled it i guess?
[03:12] <sarnold> mwhudson: bashing-om probably didn't go to much effort to avoid usrmerge, but he doesn't have the symlinks; he's probably got an old install upgraded a few times though
[03:13] <sarnold> mwhudson: my system is the ubuntu root on zfs with luks guide, who knows what exactly that is :) that's why I'm so surprised I've got the symlinks..
[03:13] <mwhudson> sarnold: which version did you start with?
[03:14] <sarnold> mwhudson: oh that's an excellent question. do you know off-hand where apport gets that from? :)
[03:15] <mwhudson> sarnold: /var/lib/something/media-info
[03:15] <mwhudson> or something
[03:15] <mwhudson> ah v
[03:15] <mwhudson> /var/log/installer/media-info
[03:16] <mwhudson> of course i can't remember when we started making merged images so
[03:17] <sarnold> mwhudson: thanks, not on this system :( bummer.
[03:17] <sarnold> mwhudson: my memory is something like 19.10 but .. it's a very fuzzy memory.
[03:19] <mwhudson> sarnold: debian enabled merged-usr by default in jun 2018 it seems, not sure about ubuntu
[03:19] <DarkTrick> Just for reference, I started with 18, I think
[03:19] <mwhudson> (default in debootstrap)
[03:20] <DarkTrick> mwhudson, that means I should've had a merged dir from the beginning, but I don't ....
[03:20] <mwhudson> DarkTrick: 18.what?
[03:20] <sarnold> mwhudson: oh! that'd do it.. my install was debootstrap :)
[03:20] <mwhudson> 18.04 wouldn't
[03:20] <mwhudson> 18.10 might have?
[03:20] <DarkTrick> mwhudson, the LTS version
[03:20] <mwhudson> yeah that's 18.04
[03:21]  * DarkTrick was sooo close...
[03:21] <mwhudson> ah i think disco / 19.04 + were merged by default
[03:22] <mwhudson> maybe?
[03:22] <mwhudson> somewhere around then
[03:25] <DarkTrick> mwhudson, so I understand it's rather recommended to have usrmerge (?) and if not I should get it
[03:26] <DarkTrick> what about symlinks for individual files VS symlinks of the whole directory, like sarnold has?
[03:26] <mwhudson> DarkTrick: yes i think for impish+ the idea is that unmerged is no longer supported, not sure though
[03:26] <mwhudson> DarkTrick: uh no, symlinks from /bin to /usr/bin etc is the expectation
[03:26] <mwhudson> there are long and tedious arguments on debian-devel about this
[03:27] <DarkTrick> mwhudson, so, the whole directory, right?
[03:27] <mwhudson> yea
[03:27] <DarkTrick> is this what would be done if I'd call `usrmerge` ?
[03:27] <DarkTrick> (the program)
[03:27] <mwhudson> well it
[03:28] <mwhudson> well it's all done by installing the package
[03:28] <mwhudson> it does all the stuff in it's maintainer scripts i think
[03:28] <DarkTrick> mwhudson, I have the package, but it's not merged
[03:28] <mwhudson> if your system is already wedged i don't know if it's going to work though
[03:28] <mwhudson> DarkTrick: uhh
[03:28]  * mwhudson checks some confidently made assertions
[03:29] <DarkTrick> worst case would be to manually move all non-links to /usr/* and create a symlink to the folder?
[03:29] <mwhudson> DarkTrick: congratulations, i guess?
[03:30] <mwhudson> DarkTrick: /usr/lib/usrmerge/convert-usrmerge is the script that does the deed
[03:30] <DarkTrick> so either I break my system now or I fix it :D
[03:30] <mwhudson> i'm not sure i'd be brave enough to do this by hand
[03:31] <DarkTrick> who needs a casino, I have Ubuntu xD
[03:31] <mwhudson> there are going to be moments during the process where the system is in a very strange state i assume
[03:31] <mwhudson> like /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 being a dangling symlink
[03:32] <sarnold> maybe start a root sash or busybox first? enable all tools? something like that..
[03:33] <mwhudson> reboot with break=bottom, run chroot /root /usr/lib/usrmerge/convert-usrmerge ?
[03:33] <mwhudson> anyway good luck!
[03:35] <sarnold> mwhudson: wat
[03:35] <mwhudson> sarnold: doing it all from the initrd
[03:35] <sarnold> mwhudson: google's giving me nothing but swimwear photos
[03:36] <sarnold> https://sources.debian.org/src/debirf/0.38/src/debirf/?hl=219#L219
[03:36] <sarnold> what the heck is debirf? :)
[03:39] <sarnold> here we go, this is more like it https://sources.debian.org/src/initramfs-tools/0.140/init/?hl=254#L159
[03:40] <mwhudson> sarnold: "build a kernel and initrd to run Debian from RAM"
[03:40] <mwhudson> not heard of that one
[03:41] <sarnold> mwhudson: ohhh hmm that might be useful, I've wondered before if my power9 system would be more reliable if I ran it from tmpfs or ramdisk.. (*sniff*)
[10:11] <juliank>   File "/snap/git-ubuntu/660/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gitubuntu/prepare_upload.py", line 112, in push
[10:11] <juliank>     assert gitubuntu.importer.VCS_GIT_URL_VALIDATION.fullmatch(
[10:11] <juliank> hooray?
[10:36] <juliank> The reason for this is I had insteadOf configured for launchpad so it always uses ssh to talk to it
[12:07] <rbasak> juliank: ah - so git-ubuntu is unable to determine what URL to put in the changes file for you that doesn't use insteadOf.
[12:08] <juliank> rbasak: basically same cause as https://bugs.launchpad.net/usd-importer/+bug/1942985
[12:09] <rbasak> I'm not sure if git-ubuntu should expand insteadOf or not. It'd be nice if it did, but I'm not keen on chasing that functionality. It'd be nice if git could expand it for us.
[12:09] <juliank> rbasak: well, a fix for that will fix mine too; though maybe insteadOf is easier to fix itself by an option somewhere to not follow insteadOf
[12:09] <rbasak> No, I think it's a different bug.
[12:09] <juliank> rbasak: No, the issue is that insteadOf expands the normal https:// url that git-ubuntu configured to ssh://
[12:09] <juliank> s/expands/replaces/
[12:09] <rbasak> Oh, OK.
[12:09] <rbasak> So there's another failure case here too.
[12:10] <juliank> And pygit2 follows insteadOf apparently when you calculate the uri
[12:10] <rbasak> If someone uses insteadOf to create a virtual alias such as lp:, then that won't work either.
[12:10] <juliank> right, I have
[12:10] <juliank> [url<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:10] <juliank> insteadOf = lp:
[12:10] <juliank> insteadOf = https://git.launchpad.net/
[12:11] <juliank> so pygit2 returned git+ssh:// instead of whatever git-ubuntu actually configured in .git/config
[12:12] <rbasak> "git-ubuntu clone" configures https://git.launchpad.net/...
[12:12] <rbasak> (for fetch; git+ssh for push)
[12:12] <juliank> yes
[12:12] <juliank> didn't want to write it :)
[12:12] <rbasak> I agree then that Christian's bug fixed will also fix your issue.
[12:13] <rbasak> Sort of by accident though. I think git-ubuntu should indeed be using the actual URL used. But this one can be special cased.
[12:56] <DarkTrick> mwhudson, sarnold: Just back from work. I thought I'd follow up on my problem: usrmerge did only help half way: if two files exist it will report that one, single file, you have to solve it by hand, run again and wait for the next error to occur and handle. I ended up changing the usrmerge script to rename files instead of throw errors. So far everything seems ok.
[14:14] <mapreri> ddstreet, teward: I wrote up a core-dev application.  I'd be happy if you could write something about me ^^ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MattiaRizzolo/CoreDevApplication
[19:42] <sarnold> DarkTrick: oh! that's a clever fix to make it run reasonable speed :)
[19:43] <Unit193> mapreri: G'luck!
[20:58] <Unit193> ahasenack: Looks like it's all merged, so I guess that's good then.
[20:59] <ahasenack> I proposed a PR in salsa too, but I have to update it with what I have actually uploaded
[20:59] <ahasenack> there was some review feedback on the ubuntu side that made me change it a bit
[21:18] <Unit193> Yeah, saw that bit about tests failing not actually failing the build and all.


[12:45] <mup> PR operator#698 closed: FIX remove_path docstring to relfect current behaviour <Created by Abuelodelanada> <Merged by jnsgruk> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/698>


[07:58] <mup> Bug #1708609 opened: Virsh Pods are not detecting all storage pools <pod> <virsh> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1708609>
[08:00] <spaok_> ello
[08:01] <spaok> anybody arounds?
[08:22] <zeih> Hi, one question regarding MAAS LDAP setup: is there a way to do it?
[09:20] <spaok> zeih: if you find a way I would love to know it
[09:20] <zeih> spaok: sure :)
[09:21] <zeih> I do not find any hint in documentation or configuration files.. so maybe it is a missing feature?
[09:22] <spaok> ya, we probably asked canonical about it a bunch times, it's a highly desired feature for me
[09:23]  * D4RKS1D3 morning
[12:31] <mup> Bug #1696752 changed: [SRU] MAAS 2.2.0 <verification-done> <verification-done-xenial> <verification-done-yakkety> <verification-done-zesty> <maas (Ubuntu):Fix
[12:31] <mup> Released> <maas (Ubuntu Xenial):Fix Released> <maas (Ubuntu Yakkety):Fix Released> <maas (Ubuntu Zesty):Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1696752>
[12:31] <mup> Bug #1708651 opened: [SRU] MAAS 2.2.2 <maas (Ubuntu):New> <maas (Ubuntu Xenial):New> <maas (Ubuntu Zesty):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1708651>
[15:17] <mup> Bug #1708651 changed: [SRU] MAAS 2.2.2 <maas (Ubuntu):Won't Fix> <maas (Ubuntu Xenial):New> <maas (Ubuntu Zesty):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1708651>
[15:17] <mup> Bug #1708679 opened: No way to read region controller image import progress through the API <cdo-qa> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1708679>
[15:44] <mup> Bug #1708679 changed: [2.3, API] Region Controller import progress not available via API <api> <cdo-qa> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1708679>
[15:53] <mup> Bug #1708679 opened: [2.3, API] Region Controller import progress not available via API <api> <cdo-qa> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1708679>
[16:02] <mup> Bug #1708679 changed: [2.3, API] Region Controller import progress not available via API <api> <cdo-qa> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1708679>
[16:14] <bryan_att> hi - q for anyone: I'm trying to import an image (current xenial cloud image) to maas and able to import it as a "generated image" but the rack controller never completes sync, and there is no error I can see in the logs. What might be the issue?
[16:14] <mup> Bug #1708679 opened: [2.3, API] Region Controller import progress not available via API <api> <cdo-qa> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1708679>
[16:25] <roaksoax> bryan_att: what version of MAAS are you using? and hwo did you upload the image. I think the issue is the way how the image was imported. I think that may be fixed in the latest 2.2
[16:27] <bryan_att> roaksoax: v2.2.0. I uploaded it using the command "maas zbook boot-resources create name=xenial/cloud title="zzz" architecture=amd64/generic<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:28] <bryan_att> followed by maas zbook boot-resources import
[16:28] <bryan_att> i could not find a way to upload it using the UI
[16:29] <bryan_att> roaksoax: is there a maas issue I should follow
[17:10] <bryan_att> I also tried to import with "maas opnfv boot-resources create name=xenial/cloud title="Current xenial cloudimage" architecture=amd64/generic filetype=tgz<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with the same result
[17:57] <julen> Does someone have a trick to access nodes that fail commissioing when the ssh is not working?
[17:57] <julen> The keys are there, and they work for the rest of machines, but for some reason one of them opens the 22 but won't let me in
[17:58] <roaksoax> bryan_att: that's probably why
[17:58] <roaksoax> bryan_att: try uploading name=custom/cloud or  name=cloud
[17:59] <roaksoax> bryan_att: or, try name=ubuntu/cloud
[17:59] <roaksoax> although I can't remember if the fixes for the later have been backported to 2.2
[17:59] <roaksoax> ltrager: ^^
[18:00] <julen> roaksoax: do you know why was the WOL option removed?
[18:04] <roaksoax> julen: yes, we could no longer effectively supported, it was buggy and didn't work as great as we wanted to.
[18:05] <bryan_att> roaksoax:  really, the name matters? this should be just a string, or is "xenial" a reserved word? I'll try it though.
[18:11] <roaksoax> bryan_att: right so the name is "os/series" so it would be "ubuntu/custom1" or "centos/custom1" or "custom/custom1" or "windows/custom1"
[18:15] <bryan_att> roaksoax:  ok, well that seems to have worked... thanks for the help! i used "ubuntu/custom"
[18:15] <roaksoax> bryan_att: :)
[18:16] <julen> roaksoax: and do you happen to have any tip to check inside a machine where the ssh keys don't seem to work?
[18:18] <roaksoax> julen: check /var/log/maas/rsyslog/<machine-name>/<date>/messages
[18:18] <bryan_att> roaksoax: next q - now that the "generated image" is sync'd, how do I use in it deploy? It does not show up as an option in the MAAS UI for deploy.
[18:19] <roaksoax> bryan_att: 1 sec,otp
[18:19] <roaksoax> ltrager: ^^
[18:21] <ltrager> roaksoax: taking a look
[18:21] <ltrager> bryan_att: So if I understand correctly you created a custom Ubuntu image and want to deploy it?
[18:22] <bryan_att> yes, from an ubuntu cloud image
[18:22] <julen> roaksoax: but, this machine does not appear in that folder. There are only the successfully commissioned ones, and the "maas-enlisting-node" which is not the one giving the error
[18:22] <ltrager> bryan_att: do you have a link to the image you're using?
[18:23] <bryan_att> ltrager: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/xenial-server-cloudimg-amd64.tar.gz
[18:28] <bryan_att> ltrager: the issue I am trying to solve, other than general interest in how to manage/deploy custom images via MAAS, is that I see behavior differences between the default Ubuntu images selectable by MAAS, and other Ubuntu images (official) for the same version. These differences are resulting inconsistent ability to deploy the OpenStack-Helm project (#openstack-helm if you want to review the issues in detail). I'm not
[18:28] <bryan_att> sure what the source of the issues are, but I am trying to narrow down the variables.
[18:29] <roaksoax> ltrager: the issue here is that he uploaded name=ubuntu/custom and it is not available for deployment
[18:29] <roaksoax> ltrager: i think we already fixed that, but we dont know which
[18:31] <ltrager> roaksoax: thats in 2.2.2
[18:31] <roaksoax> ltrager: so 2.2.2 will fix that for *ubuntu* too ?
[18:31] <roaksoax> bryan_att: ^^
[18:31] <ltrager> roaksoax: I'm testing 2.2.2 for Ubuntu but I don't think that image is deployable
[18:32] <ltrager> roaksoax: I'm checking now but if I recall correctly that image doesn't include a kernel
[18:34] <ltrager> bryan_att: The images we produce come from cloud-images.ubuntu.com. We use the SquashFS image and don't modify it at all
[18:37] <bryan_att> I may be mistaken about what's possible to deploy via MAAS, just trying to see what other options I have vs the default selections. So should the other ubuntu cloud images on the same page for xenial (e.g. the one I linked above) be usable? Also re MAAS 2.2.2, is that available as a package yet, or do I have to install from source (rather not do that... it always seems to cause me to have to reimage my server if I want
[18:37] <bryan_att> to uninstall later...)
[18:38] <bryan_att> page i.e. https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/ and xenial-server-cloudimg-amd64.tar.gz being the one I am trying to use
[18:39] <ltrager> bryan_att: okay nevermind that image should be deployable its another image format that doesn't contain the kernel
[18:39] <bryan_att> good - so how do I get MAAS 2.2.2 ? by source only?
[18:39] <roaksoax> bryan_att: try ppa:maas/proposed -> that holds 2.2.2 which should have the fix for havin the image deployable
[18:40] <roaksoax> bryan_att: it is being SRU'd into Xenial as we speak
[18:40] <bryan_att> roaksoax: thanks, I will do that and let you now how it goes. appreciate the help!
[18:43] <bryan_att> roaksoax: one more q - I added the ppa. how do I reference the specific version in apt-get? (as "maas" it did not upgrade it)
[18:44] <bryan_att> wait ... i did not update yet
[18:45] <roaksoax> bryan_att: sudo apt-get update :)
[18:49] <julen> roaksoax: isn't there a way to hardcode a root password during commissioning? I tried with commissioning scripts and with the curtin, but it doesn't seem to work
[18:50] <roaksoax> julen: yes, you can do it with a comissioning script, provided that the commisioning script runs
[18:50] <roaksoax> julen: are you usre it is actually pxe booting and getting metadata
[18:50] <roaksoax> julen: maybe the node is failing to run metadata
[18:51] <julen> roaksoax: hmm... I am actually not sure of the metadata
[18:52] <julen> the pxe does work, and I see that "no datasource found! Likeliy bad things to come! message, but I cannot get in to check the logs
[18:53] <roaksoax> julen: so that's the problem, eithre the machine cannot communicate with MAAS
[19:05] <julen> roaksoax: you were right. The gateway was wrong on that subnet. Thanks :)
[19:06] <roaksoax> :)
[19:40] <jamesbenson> hi, has anyone tried to deploy coreOS with MaaS?
[19:43] <roaksoax> jamesbenson: not that i know off. we can deploy Ubuntu Core though
[19:46] <jamesbenson> I haven't read up a lot about ubuntu core, how does that compare?
[19:47] <bryan_att> roaksoax: been waiting for a while after upgrading to 2.2.2 - and the image was not showing up as a deploy option in the UI - so I removed and re-added it, and it sync'd again, but still is not there as a deploy option. How do I get this image to be deployable via the UI?
[20:03] <roaksoax> ltrager: ^^
[20:03] <roaksoax> bryan_att: try adding it as name=custon/image
[20:03] <roaksoax> bryan_att: try adding it as name=custon/customimage1
[20:03] <roaksoax> bryan_att: we'll fix the issue for ubuntu/custom
[20:04] <bryan_att> "custon/customimage1" or do you mean "custom/customimage1" ?
[20:04] <roaksoax> bryan_att: name=custom/<your-image-name>" or name="<your-image-name>"
[20:05] <bryan_att> roaksoax: ok, thanks I'll try that
[20:16] <bryan_att> roaksoax: super, now it shows up as a deployable image. thanks much!
[22:30] <wililupy> Has anyone seen a node fail to deploy based on ntp failing?
[23:54] <roaksoax> wililupy: yes
[23:54] <roaksoax> wililupy: what's your failure ?


 Push (re @Oskar: With USB)
 OMFG i installed steam on my laptop and it deleted all of the OS
 On kubuntu 22.04
[04:23] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Looking up solutions, some people report that Steam will decide to conflict with core system packages and cause this sort of mayhem.
 How to revert? (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Looking up solutions, some people report that Steam will decide to conflict with core system packages and cause this sort of mayhem.)
 Have blackscreen now
[04:24] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: When this sort of thing happens, it really messes things up. Your best bet may be to boot from a live USB, recover your personal data, and reinstall Kubuntu.
[04:25] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: This is a very rare problem, but it occurred at one point here: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmemes/comments/qhjhf2/linus_trying_to_install_steam/ (I know it says linuxmemes, but I believe this actually happened, not just a meme.)
[04:25] <arraybolt3[m]> Also here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/256673/steam-destroys-my-ubuntu
[04:26] <arraybolt3[m]> So apparently Steam just sometimes goes off on a tangent and decides to crash all of creation.
 Can you post this on ubuntu one
[04:26] <arraybolt3[m]> I will bring this to the attention of developers ASAP. This is a critical bug and needs fixed immediately.
 I wanted to report bug but its too much information before posting
[04:27] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: It should be easily reproducible, all you did was "sudo apt install steam", right?
 Yes
[04:27] <arraybolt3[m]> (I'm good at bug reports.)
 In discover it says its conflicting with "systemeinstellungen"
 Cant be installed over discover
[04:27] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, I will alert the developers, replicate the problem in a VM, and file a bug report ASAP.
 Thanks
 So now i reboot into livesystem and backup all my data...
[04:28] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Sorry this happened. In the future, since catastrophes like this sometimes occur, if it looks like something is going to cause chaos, back out, because it almost certainly will cause as much chaos as it looks like. Steam in particular is notorious for this.
 Yeah... Not so good this bug...  I thought i was dreaming as it deletes all apps and blackscreen
 But when u download the deb package from steam website, and install over discover, the installation aborts and says "lib6.so missing" or something like that, and when you press in discover on install, it says that its conflicting with system settings
[04:33] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Yeah, I dunno what's wrong with Steam that it keeps doing this sort of junk. Thank you, that info will help in making a good bug report.
 And in live system the only thing installed is steam whe you look at the hard drive
 No problem for this.. never thought this can happen tonme (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Yeah, I dunno what's wrong with Steam that it keeps doing this sort of junk. Thank you, that info will help in making a good bug report.)
[04:34] <arraybolt3[m]> All sounds like that "libc6.so" is going wonky to me.
[04:35] <arraybolt3[m]> Pretty much everything depends on libc6, so if Steam decided to upgrade it, that would cause the problem.
 But i cant access my files zhat stayed on desktop they are gone
[04:36] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: You don't have any files left in /home/<username> ?
 /home/oskar/schreibtisch is gone except of steam.desktop file
[04:36] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Open the hard drive from within the live ISO, then open the "home" folder. In that, you'll see a folder with your username, open that and all your files should be in there.
 The files i had on desktop are gone
[04:37] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: And you were saving important files there?
 I wanted to put it on my hard drive , but then the steam shit occured
[04:37] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: If so, do NOT do any writing to the drive. There's still a chance at recovering those files, but the less you mess with the drive, the better.
 Ok (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: If so, do NOT do any writing to the drive. There's still a chance at recovering those files, but the less you mess with the drive, the better.)
 Thank you
[04:38] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: There's a program called PhotoRec that can undelete many file types, I'm searching for how to get it working in a live system.
[04:39] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Do you have any other computers?
 Downloads folder is not deleted bit the desktop
 Yes but with windows (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Do you have any other computers?)
[04:40] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: OK, nevermind, looks like we don't need the other computer.  How big is your system's hard drive?
 512gigabyte
[04:40] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: OK, and what's the largest external drive you have?
 I have 1 tb external
[04:41] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: How much free space is left on it? If it's more than 512 gigabytes, that's best. If not, we can still do quite a bit.
 Its empty
[04:42] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Perfect. Would you please connect the external drive to your computer, then open a terminal window by pressing Ctrl+Alt+T?
 Done
[04:43] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: OK, please run `lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999`, and send the URL it spits out. This will let me see the drive IDs on your system and help me to tell you the exact right command for making a disk image of your system.
 Oh my harddrive just has 320 gb the other one is not here atm
 I have done the command but nothing happens
[04:45] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Hmm. OK, well, that's ok. We can still do a lot. The command might take a while before it spits out the URL.
[04:45] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: You can also just run `lsblk`, then take a picture of the terminal window and send that.
 After the 999 should there be the ` sign?
[04:46] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: No, those signs were to make the command look like code, I'm guessing Telegram must not make that render properly.
 I cant send pictures here
[04:46] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: The command:
[04:46] <arraybolt3[m]> lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
 Ok one moment
 Done
 https://termbin.com/r2yr
[04:48] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: I will need the URL it printed in order to see the command output.
[04:49] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: OK, next command:
[04:49] <arraybolt3[m]> sudo apt install testdisk
 Done
[04:49] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: This will install the data recovery program into the live environment, but will not write to your hard drive.
 Ok
[04:49] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: OK, next do this:
[04:50] <arraybolt3[m]> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[04:50] <arraybolt3[m]> That will allow us to access the external hard drive and save recovered files to it.
 Mounted
[04:50] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, next:
[04:50] <arraybolt3[m]> sudo photorec
[04:51] <arraybolt3[m]> You will see the data recovery software launch.
 Yes
[04:51] <arraybolt3[m]> To know what buttons to tell you to press, I will need screenshots of the terminal window. You can upload pictures to imgbb or Imgur and send the links.
[04:52] <arraybolt3[m]> https://imgbb.com/
 I know the program, but used it a few years ago the last time.. so i upload now the pictures
[04:53] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: OK. If you already know how to use it, great. Select your main hard drive's partition as the source, and your external drive as the destination, make sure it's set for ext2/ext3, and let it recover.
 Ok but i dont have the big external drive here just the 320
[04:54] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: That's probably OK, it's unlikely that the recovery process will eat all 320 GB of space. How much space is left on your 320 GB drive?
 300
[04:55] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Yeah, that should be OK. Make a new folder to save the recovered data into (sudo mkdir /mnt/recovery), then recover as much as you can into that folder.
[04:56] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: You might also try "sudo testdisk" if you know how to use that software, it may make the recovery process easier, but it's not as good at digging up deleted data.
[04:56] <arraybolt3[m]> (Don't run them at the same time, though.)
 Started recovery
 Thanks for the help (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> (Don't run them at the same time, though.))
[04:57] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: So sorry this happened. This is crazy. I can't believe Steam keeps wrecking people's systems like this.
[04:57] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: I finished making the VM so I can replicate the problem and alert the developers.
 Yeah its bad.. i set up yesterday this system, deleted windows 11.. and then it deletes all of my
 Thanks for bug reporting. Idk how to do it myself in ubuntu one (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: I finished making the VM so I can replicate the problem and alert the developers.)
[04:58] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: What a nightmare. Do you have any backups of the important files? Anything stored in Google Drive, flash drives, anything?
 Yes the most things stored in google drive, i have 100 gb google one account (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: What a nightmare. Do you have any backups of the important files? Anything stored in Google Drive, flash drives, anything?)
 The only problem i had before the steam disaster, were my soundcard not working
[05:00] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: What's the exact hardware you're on? Something like "Dell Inspiron 7000" is what I'm looking for.
[05:01] <arraybolt3[m]> That may help resolve the soundcard issue.
[05:01] <arraybolt3[m]> (Obviously, for right now, we're most concerned with data recovery, but may as well work on other stuff while it's doing the recovery.)
 I have a matebook 14 amd 2021 version. With ryzen 5 5500u, 512 gb ssd, 16 gb ram
[05:02] <arraybolt3[m]> Boom, found it. Let's see what solutions are available...
 😊
 Its an amd spundcard shown as acp
 From huawei
 Yellow carp
[05:05] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Well, shoot. This particular laptop has a sound device that Linux apparently simply doesn't support yet. I think they're working on it, but it's not ready yet. In the mean time, you may be able to use Bluetooth for your audio (if the laptop has Bluetooth support).
 Ok nice , the bluetooth spund box from huawei is coming today, so i can make use of it
 They sent for free because i buyed. Thanks for researching my problem
 Buyed the notebook*
[05:07] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Sad that the answer was just, "This doesn't work yet", though. Glad there's at least something to help fix it.
 Ill hope the spund card is supported in linux 5.20
 But the firmware for my particurlar ryzen 5 is not available yet
[05:09] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Hopefully that will happen. Linux is always gaining support for new hardware.
 Firmware missing and tried to install firmware but is shown as missing...
 I called huawei support for driver support they email me in 48 hours
[05:10] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: If you're interested, here's the details of the problem your notebook is having: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215119#c1
 But i think the linux community does this way better.. and thanks for your help, thank you i will watch into it
[05:11] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Glad to be helpful! Hopefully the rest of your experience with Linux won't be anywhere near as disappointing and messy as it has been so far...
 I use linux as my daily driver at work i like linux bit iam not so experienced in doing things myself atm (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Glad to be helpful! Hopefully the rest of your experience with Linux won't be anywhere near as disappointing and messy as it has been so far...)
 Learning linux atm
[05:13] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: If you'd like to get really good experience with Linux without risking your system, you can install GNOME Boxes (after your system's data is recovered, of course), install Kubuntu (or any other Linux distro) into a virtual machine, and then experiment around in that. Even if something goes horribly wrong, it's contained within the VM and the rest of your system will be fine. You can even make VM snapshots that will allow you to
[05:13] <arraybolt3[m]> undo anything that goes wrong in your VM.
 Ok ill do..
 And to the link you sent, its the 1 year older notebook, but its the same bug
 I have the newer one
 Thanks for help!😊 (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> undo anything that goes wrong in your VM.)
[05:16] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: No problem. The place that got me to the link I sent you is: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/no-sound-on-huawei-matebook-14-amd-2021-and-fedora-35/18681 (That is for your exact laptop if I'm not mistaken.)
[05:18] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: OK, prepping for chaos on my end. I just installed Steam into a Kubuntu virtual machine. If this doesn't go haywire, something's strange about your particular setup. If it does, this is a bug and I'll be able to report it.
 I just used minimal setup, then installed flatpak, spotify, libreoffice, qtbittorrent, and steam deleted it all
[05:20] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Minimal setup. OK, that's helpful to know. Steam installed without problems on a full setup.
 Flatpak gave an warning, but not an error for one of the packages
[05:20] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Did it go haywire immediately after running the apt command, or did you launch Steam and watch it update first?
 Ok how 😭 (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Minimal setup. OK, that's helpful to know. Steam installed without problems on a full setup.)
 Ah i used kernel 5.18.8
 Mainline
 To support my hardware
 Thats important for bug report i think
[05:23] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: True. The more details I have, the better.
 And i used all of the 4 packages 5.18.8 had tondownload for am64 architecture
 Amd64*
[05:25] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: One problem is, though, Ubuntu doesn't support mainline kernels, so I might not be able to file a bug report (especially since Steam appears to work safely on the non-mainline kernel). I will still try to reproduce the problem so that I can see if there's something I can report.
 I used some firmware ppas too to support my hardware
 Oibaf ppa
 Thats all, i cant say anymore to this.. that was all i have done
[05:27] <arraybolt3[m]> OK. I will see if I can reproduce the problem with that.
 Thank you. Files recovered now installing kubuntu back onto my machine
[05:28] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: OK. Did you find the files you were looking for in the results?
 Yes all there
 Nothing lost
[05:29] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Fantastic. Whew, that was close! Glad it worked.
 😊
[05:30] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: I'd say "always keep backups" at this point, but it sounds like you already did that and only recent files nearly got lost.
 Yes.. its good to have google cloud or any other cloud . But i dont recommend mega, because its not safe
[05:31] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Yeah, I've heard bad stuff about Mega before.
 So now iam out of here, setting up my machine again 😊
[05:33] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: 👍
 O set my pc up with 20.04.. i think i upgrade when 22.04 is stable
 Whats with your testing of the steam disaster?
[06:05] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Still haven't made it happen yet, I'm multitasking. I'm going to try installing the mainline kernel and see what happens.
 Ok 😊
 But it really happened.. i googled for it iam not the only one
[06:06] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: My idea is to just install one component at a time, then try to install Steam but not actually let it happen, once it tells me it's about to explode, then I know I've hit it.
 Ah ok 😊
 When you install flatpak, install spotify from flatpak, not from steam
 Not from snap*
[06:06] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: (Of course it really happened. Even if I can never get it to happen on my end, that doesn't mean it didn't really happen to you. I hit a bug once that only ever happened once, but it blew up SO BAD when it happened.)
[06:06] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, will make sure to do it that way.
[06:07] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: How did you install the mainline kernel?
 Ok 😊 i installed it woth the mainline installer package you get from a ppa (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: How did you install the mainline kernel?)
 There you can install all kernels that you want
[06:08] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: OK, I think I know what you're talking about.
[06:08] <arraybolt3[m]> I've ran into that tool before. It's just called "Mainline", right?
 Yes
[06:08] <arraybolt3[m]> Perfect, I know exactly what you're talking about then.
 😊😊✌
[06:09] <arraybolt3[m]> Of all the components you mentioned, the mainline kernel sounds like the most likely culprit, so I'm going for it first.
 Ok 😊
 Flatpak had some issues woth a package but just  a warning nothing more.. can it be that flatpak messed up
[06:11] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Maybe? Flatpak might be the problem, since it's another package manager, but I doubt it. This kind of mess seems like it would have taken a conflict deep in the guts of the system.
 But you can install the integration in discover too
[06:12] <arraybolt3[m]> Alright, kernel 5.18.8 installing.
 Sounds bad (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Maybe? Flatpak might be the problem, since it's another package manager, but I doubt it. This kind of mess seems like it would have taken a conflict deep in the guts of the system.)
[06:12] <arraybolt3[m]> Will also try installing the Discover integration if the kernel doesn't do the trick.
 Go for it
[06:12] <arraybolt3[m]> Yeah, given what happened a bit ago, that would be BAD.
 Yes...
[06:13] <arraybolt3[m]> Nothing should ever, EVER, blow up an OS like that. Unless you're working with developer tools, in which case there's no telling what will happen, but aside from that...
 Word
[06:15] <arraybolt3[m]> My Internet connection is pretty slow (getting around 5 Mbps at the moment), so this will take me a while.
 No problem
 The german news pages for linux say much things about steam deleting all files and apps
 And they say there, its from the script steam is using
 I dont want to install steam now on my machine.. iam afraid of it
[06:21] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Man. Did you ever manage to try to launch Steam, or did it blow up during or immediately after running the apt command?
 After running the apt command
[06:22] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Ugh. What a mess.
 In discover it blocked the install and the deb package said lib6.so or something missing install is aborted
[06:22] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: libc6.so is a critical internal system component, removing it would easily nuke a system.
 Its a 32 bit version of this lib file steam said
 And it was missing
 And apt said all the time you have damaged packages
[06:24] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: That's what I figured. Again, sounds like the mainline kernel's fault to me.
 Itd happening to you?
[06:25] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Not sure yet, just finished installing the kernel, now it's reboot time.
 Ok
[06:31] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: OK, so the mainline kernel did not cause the problem. Guess Flatpak is next to try. How did you install Flatpak?
 Let me see one moment please, i look how i did that
 Sudo apt install flatpak  and then i added the flatpak repository. Then i restarted, and installed the flatpak extension in discover
[06:34] <arraybolt3[m]> OK.
 On flatpak org there is the guide
 But i didnt installed the gnome plugin
[06:35] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, testing it out.
 After flatpak was installed i installed spotify flatpak package over discover
[06:37] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, this might be silly, but where's the button for installing the flatpak discover extension? Or what package is that?
 After the install of the plugin the flatpak packages are seen on doscover
[06:37] <arraybolt3[m]> Oh wait found it.
 It shown up without doing anything
 Dont forget tobadd the repo from flatpak
[06:38] <arraybolt3[m]> Did that.
 Ok
 After reboot install spotify
 Flatpak spotify
[06:39] <arraybolt3[m]> Spotify through flatpak, libreoffice and qtbittorrent through apt?
 Yes
 Then i had vlc and libdvd-pkg installed and setup
 Thats everything all i said here what i can remember
[06:41] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, found the Flatpak spotify.
 👍
 Whats the most important thing, under 22.04 my notebook got hot af. Under 20.04 its cold
[06:44] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: That's... odd. Can you do a full system update, reboot, and see what happens?
 I dont want to gonagain on 22.04 until its stable
 The steam thing is messing around iam afraid of it
[06:45] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: No, I mean "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade". This will get you the latest updates for your OS, but you'll still be on 20.04, not 22.04.
 Ok
 Its still up to date 😊
 Back to the steam issue😊
[06:47] <arraybolt3[m]> OK. Still waiting on Spotify to install...
 Okay 😊
 I remember one more thing
 I installed tlp used it for a bit and uninstalled it because it did not work like i thought
[07:35] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Unbelievable. Spotify refused to install on my system it appears.
[07:36] <arraybolt3[m]> Oh wait, nevermind, it actually did work.
 I got that bug too
 And then, sudo update and flatpak spits errors
[07:37] <arraybolt3[m]> Flatpak told me:Looking for updates…
[07:37] <arraybolt3[m]> Nothing to do.
 Lol i got the warnings
[07:37] <arraybolt3[m]> Was it "sudo apt update" or "sudo flatpak update"?
 Flatpak
 Try apt i dont remember
[07:38] <arraybolt3[m]> OK.
 For the repos its using apt i think
 When you get no errors then i dont know what was wrong with my installation
 hi, my Xorg/Keyboard configuration options are not persistent across reboot. The settings are still there, but I need to open them and modify them a bit (so that the apply button gets active) and then set them again each time after reboot.
 Where can I find a solution for this issue or file a bug?
[10:15] <alkisg> sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
 alkisg: thanks, let's see if that did it. It's actually concerning the advanced options only, the basic language settings seem to be ok and persistent
[10:37] <alkisg> I usually ignore ALL the desktop environment settings AND ibus, fcitx etc and just use keyboard-configuration; it has been working fine for decades, while the DEs keep breaking stuff
[10:37] <alkisg> But if you override the keyboard-configuration settings with DE settings, then you need to reset the DE settings so that they don't override the main configuration
[10:39] <alkisg> keyboard-configuration works in console and all DEs. It's a pitty that wayland is starting over from scratch
 alkisg: not sure if I can follow.  The DE only gives an interface for the XKB options
 it is pretty similar to this issue if not the same https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/xorg-keyboard-configuration-options-is-not-persistent-across-reboot/24272
[10:40] <alkisg> Yeh, I completely ignore that and use the cross-de method
[10:40] <alkisg> That works everywhere
[10:42] <alkisg> https://userbase.kde.org/System_Settings/Keyboard vs /etc/default/keyboard => I prefer the second
 but it is the same, the DE just provides a GUI for the xkb settings, no?
[11:53] <pouser__> hello strangers
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 Bluetoothsound works well with my notebook, thank you for your help here.
 Hope we get aupport fir the chips on my board soon
 Support*
[14:56] <BluesKaj> amd?
 Yes
 Ryzen 5500u and amd sound device
[15:03] <BluesKaj> run this in konsole to check the audio HW and driver, sudo lshw -C sound
 Ok wait
[15:05] <BluesKaj> configuration should show the driver
 Someone here said to me my soundchip is currently unsupported he looked for ot
 Yes is see (re @IrcsomeBot: <BluesKaj> configuration should show the driver)
[15:06] <BluesKaj> name of audio driver ?
 Raven/raven2/fireflight/renoir audio
 Processor
 From amd
 Acp device
 I messed up with some firmwares and some nice guy here said to me its unsupported
[15:11] <BluesKaj> looks like an intel chip so, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel , to load the driver ... a reboot might be needed
[15:13] <BluesKaj> is this a new clean install or an upgrade from a previous LTS version or ?
 New install (re @IrcsomeBot: <BluesKaj> is this a new clean install or an upgrade from a previous LTS version or ?)
 Its amd (re @IrcsomeBot: <BluesKaj> looks like an intel chip so, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel , to load the driver ... a reboot might be needed)
 Amd sound device says your command
 The sound de vice loads the intel hd driver but nothing happens so i have to use bluetooth till updates coming
 False driver loading
[15:15] <BluesKaj> ok, have you checked alsamixer in the konsole to make sure automute is disabled?
 Yes
 There are no sound controls for acp device
[15:16] <BluesKaj> amd has used intel audio chips in the past afaik
 Some guy here said , this particular soundchip is not supported yet
 Its a huawei matebook 14 amd 2021. The same problem goes for the 2020 version of this notebook
[15:18] <BluesKaj> is this an onboard chip or is it a discrete soundcard?
[19:51] <arraybolt3[m]> BluesKaj: See https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/no-sound-on-huawei-matebook-14-amd-2021-and-fedora-35/18681 and https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215119#c1, these are the links that led me to believe that audio support doesn't exist for Oskar's laptop. :-(
[19:51] <arraybolt3[m]> (Oh, this is hours later...)
[19:52] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Glad to hear that Bluetooth audio is working!
 Hey no problem (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> (Oh, this is hours later...))
 Bluetooth audio works great
 But the inside speakers should work too at a notebook.. hope this getting fixed
[19:54] <arraybolt3[m]> Agreed. Strongly. I used a few laptops where the internal speakers didn't work, but Bluetooth did, it was frustrating.
 Yeah 😊
 And could you reproduce the steam error?
[20:21] <arraybolt3[m]> Still working on that, I've not yet added Oibaf or that one other library you mentioned.
 Ok
 Hope you can reproduce it
[20:22] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: What packages did you install from the Oibaf PPA?
 The andgpu drivers
 Amd*
 Then copied over the firmware files
 From the other source
[20:25] <arraybolt3[m]> OK.
 From the other spurce i copied over the files into lib/Firmware
[20:27] <arraybolt3[m]> The other source... I'm not sure what that is.
 I have written above
 When we talked earlier
[20:29] <arraybolt3[m]> I see you mentioned firmware PPAs, but I don't know what those PPAs are. Oibaf isn't firmware AFAICT.
 Wait
 Screenshot (01.07.2022 22:31:54) : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/baca4c75/file_57696.jpg
[20:32] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, I installed that.
[20:33] <arraybolt3[m]> Trying libdvd-pkg...
 Wait i give you rhe command to install the firmware
[20:36] <tomreyn> it'll be something from https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/amdgpu
 Yes
 Thats right
 That source i added too after oibaf installed (re @IrcsomeBot: <tomreyn> it'll be something from https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/amdgpu)
[20:37] <arraybolt3[m]> tomreyn: Thank you!
[20:38] <tomreyn> you're welcome. :)
[20:38] <tomreyn> what are you tring to get to work? the internal audio or graphics?
 Both
[20:39] <arraybolt3[m]> tomreyn: Steam wrecked Oskar's laptop last night, we're trying to replicate the issue in a VM for a bug report.
[20:39] <arraybolt3[m]> tomreyn: He just about lost important data, thankfully PhotoRec managed to extract it back out.
[20:39] <tomreyn> oh, ok. :-/
[20:40] <tomreyn> so steam broke the file systme or something?
 Steam deleted all of the OS
[20:40] <tomreyn> eek
[20:40] <tomreyn> well, that's not the first occasion
[20:40] <arraybolt3[m]> tomreyn: Something about libc6:i386 or something like that. Looks like Steam conflicted with some deep part of the OS and wreaked total havoc.
[20:41] <arraybolt3[m]> That's what I said! Me thinks Steam should be removed from the Ubuntu repos, or at least surrounded with "WARNING DANGER" marks or something.
 Yeah, ice read its the script steam is using
[20:42] <arraybolt3[m]> Oskar: The bit about libdvd-pkg looks like a potential culprit, it's building and installing libdvdcss2 from source, which might have been the problem. Guess we're about to find out.
 Libc6.so 32 bit (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> tomreyn: Something about libc6:i386 or something like that. Looks like Steam conflicted with some deep part of the OS and wreaked total havoc.)
 Missing
[20:43] <arraybolt3[m]> What's odd is, on my system's it's working. It might be that you installed Steam just at the exact wrong time, and that whatever went weird has updated and isn't dangerous anymore. That's what happened at least one of the times this mess occurred.
[20:44] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Hey, when you tried to do it in Plasma, was is "Steam installer" you tried to install?
[20:46] <arraybolt3[m]> It*
 I first tried to install from homepage, retried 3 times, i aborted in discover.
 Then i tried searchinf steam in discover itself then it was half installed, when i used the command steam  the script Popped up but aborted in terminal. Then after this i have done sudo apt install steam and that wrecked all my os
 It* aborted in discover"
 First tried with deb file, then discover itself and then in terminal
 Steam was installed, but the whole os and my data that was on dekstop were gone
[20:56] <arraybolt3[m]> OK, that makes sense. That may be exactly why it messed everything up. As a general rule, if software is available in the Ubuntu repositories already, don't install it from the original website.
 Okay i will do it in the future just from the repos
[20:57] <arraybolt3[m]> (If software is not available for Ubuntu, then it might be OK to use a download .deb, like for Google Chrome, for instance, but other than that, a downloaded .deb might cause problems.)
 Okay ... But google chrome can just be installed over snap or deb..
 I dont like snap, because spotify snap is buggy... You cant change sound quality and other things
 Thats why i treid flatpak and this did the thing.. flatpaks are better in my opinion
 I will remmber this for the future (re @IrcsomeBot: <arraybolt3[m]> (If software is not available for Ubuntu, then it might be OK to use a download .deb, like for Google Chrome, for instance, but other than that, a downloaded .deb might cause problems.))
[21:01] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: OK. Sorry about all that crazy mess, glad you're back up and running now!
 Yeah 😊 sorry that i stole your time to reproduce this steam mess
[21:02] <arraybolt3[m]> No, it's fine. We learned a lot. Doing this will help me be able to help others in the future. You didn't waste my time even one bit.
 Ok 😊
 Glad i could help you, helping other people 😊
[21:04] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Glad you got your files back and your system's working again!
 :)
 Thank you too
[21:17] <tomreyn> i'm just trying to install the steampowered.com steam installer on a pretty fresh kubuntu 22.04
[21:18] <tomreyn> it seems to work, but i didn't set up the additional repository, and it sure does require a lot of additional packages: https://i.imgur.com/etesvnF.png
 Okay so thats the issue?
[21:19] <tomreyn> no, i don't know which issue you hit exactly.
 Because fhe installer deb said to me packages missing lib6.so 32 bit missing and other i386 files
[21:19] <tomreyn> i just tried to reproduce it very simply, but couldn't, that's all i'm saying
 Okay thanks for your help so i dont know what it caused actally
[21:20] <tomreyn> :) you're welcome, but i mostly did this to ensure it's not a generic issue.
[21:22] <arraybolt3[m]> I'm trying the Steam installer from Discover, see if that triggers it.
[21:22] <arraybolt3[m]> *To see if that triggers it
 Okay
[21:31] <arraybolt3[m]> Installing Steam through Discover also is working for me (with mainline kernel, minimal install, extra apps, and Oibaf PPA).
 Ok then i dont know what was wrong ...
 Bad install media could be
[21:32] <arraybolt3[m]> @Oskar: Maybe. At least it looks like it was something that's unlikely to happen in the future.
 Ok ..