[06:53] <CVirus> Xenguy: nope
[06:53] <SuperBeing> ubuntu or linux obviously doesn't like my video card
[06:53] <Tenebrys> I've been searching around a -lot- for a proper boot manager, never found one.
[06:53] <Schalken> lol
[06:53] <iLLf8d> Tenebrys, yeah you'll need to fix that through grub and I dunno how offhand without doing a bunch of reading I've only had to fix that twice in 11 years so I don't recall the steps offhand (if it was lilo I could do that from memory)
[06:53] <Xenguy> CVirus: never heard of it
[06:53] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: I take it there's no GUI in your server install?
[06:53] <SuperBeing> nope
[06:53] <SuperBeing> I should just get commandline, but i don't even get that
[06:54] <bur[n] er> anyone know if it's possible to do activesync syncing via ubuntu?
[06:54] <iLLf8d> Tenebrys, I take it grub no longer comes up:
[06:54] <Tenebrys> Yeah... I took one look at the grub manual and just wanted to crawl back to bed.
[06:54] <ArrenLex> SuperBeing: then your video card has nothing else to do with it. Something else is wrong.
[06:54] <ArrenLex> SB: Does Windows work on this machine?
[06:54] <Tenebrys> Heh... with a bit of jerry-rigging, actually yes.
[06:54] <iLLf8d> Tenebrys, actually its not overly difficult
[06:54] <SuperBeing> I just get the typical boot load screen, then black screen
[06:54] <ArrenLex> burner: for PDA?
[06:54] <Tenebrys> You see, the /dev/sda4 partition I installed was to get it back.
[06:54] <iLLf8d> Tenebrys, looks more daunting then it is
[06:54] <Tenebrys> Heh... hmm.
[06:54] <medic30420> does anybody know if you can have two people working on the same computer at the same time, one locally and the other remotely.  (everything is ubuntu, and different xsessions)
[06:55] <iLLf8d> you need to make a grub floppy and just run a few commands
[06:55] <Xenguy> medic30420: freenx
[06:55] <MNGRVE> how do i uninstall a plugin from firefox?
[06:55] <Tenebrys> grub floppy... hmm.  Just FYI, this comp's floppy drive doesn't work.
[06:55] <lnxusr> hello all md5sum do not match on 606.1 lts from ftp.wayne.edu
[06:55] <MNGRVE> i accidentally installed the win32 version of flash
[06:55] <Xenguy> medic30420: for a graphical environment; ssh for command-line
[06:55] <ArrenLex> MNGRVE: Just go to the Extensions screen and click uninstall.
[06:55] <medic30420> Xenguy, does it let me login, or do both users have to be logged in locally first?
[06:55] <MNGRVE> ArrenLex: it's not an extension
[06:56] <ArrenLex> MNGRVE: Oh. It's in your ~/.mozilla/plugins
[06:56] <MNGRVE> thanks :D
[06:56] <lnxusr> 606.1desktop 386 iso
[06:56] <Xenguy> medic30420: former
[06:56] <iLLf8d> Tenebrys, do you get a grub prompt or not?
[06:56] <m0`> hi
[06:56] <ArrenLex> MNGRVE: Remove the files libflashplayer.so and flashplayer.xpt
[06:56] <TheH> Hi, I just successfully edit xorg to use my hdtv, but the 1280x720p resolution it's to big, I need help shrinking it to my 37"?
[06:56] <Xenguy> medic30420: AFAIK
[06:56] <m0`> i need to add "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" inorder for Firefox to work
[06:56] <ArrenLex> MNGRVE: I don't know how you can "accidentally" install the wrong version of Flash, though, because there's only one version of Flash.
[06:56] <medic30420> Xenguy, thanks
[06:56] <Tenebrys> Yeah.  Because of what I did, /dev/sda4 boots first, and it brings up grub with it, with all my partitions.
[06:56] <m0`> how can I do that withought doing it from terminal
[06:56] <Xenguy> medic30420: yw
[06:56] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: kinda... it's a phone, but it runs windows mobile
[06:57] <muhammad> is there any way to take screenshots during ubuntu installation ?
[06:57] <MNGRVE> ArrenLex: wine+wrong link = no
[06:57] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: mostly i want to put mp3s on its storage card via usb, but not sure how i would... i might try wine
[06:57] <ArrenLex> burner: then it probably won't work. At least not without a lot of hacking.
[06:57] <ArrenLex> burner: you can check out the synce project on http://synce.sf.net
[06:58] <ArrenLex> burner: synce is for syncing PDAs. It warns that it most often won't work on smartphones. My own smartphone didn't work with it.
[06:58] <Fcukit> Hey all
[06:58] <ArrenLex> burner: try it though. Maybe magical things might happen.
[06:58] <iLLf8d> Tenebrys, oh thats good
[06:58] <jason_> do you guys think I'd get a better framerate and more speed if I set my colors to 16bit? I've got an older computer
[06:58] <ArrenLex> F.: could you please change your name?
[06:58] <ArrenLex> jason: More framerate in what?
[06:58] <AlReece45> Can anyone help me with "IRQ INTR_SF lossage" problems?
[06:58] <jason_> 3D
[06:58] <Xenguy> Fcukit: greets
[06:59] <Fcukit> Guys, I ordered some Ubuntu cds from Shipit and it boots up, goes into gnome etc
[06:59] <Fcukit> but on Step 6 of the install
[06:59] <Fcukit> when I press "Install" it freezes ....
[06:59] <PopeOfWar> !enter
[06:59] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[06:59] <whyso> hey i have my hard drives filled up on windows partitian, is there a way to transfer them when i switch to ubuntu without deleting anything?
[06:59] <Fcukit> yet i can still open other things, drag the window around etc
[06:59] <SuperBeing> alright, damn ubuntu, i gotta try some other distro, this think gives me too many black screens of death
[06:59] <rmd_> ok.  i'll ask one last time and leave you all alone.  i installed ubuntu and it installed grub.  i need to restore my windows installation.  no fkeys will bring up the restoration software and grub cannot boot it (cannot find kernel msg from drmk)... can anyone help me here?  or point me to a channel?  none of the information on the web agrees..
[06:59] <whyso> and i want to change them to rizer or whatever ubuntu uses
[06:59] <Madpilot> Fcukit, on every single disc ShipIt sent you?
[06:59] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: thanks for the feedback... i'll let you know how wine goes... vmware with windows xp and activesync works, but that's not a great solution ;)
[07:00] <Madpilot> whyso, no
[07:00] <Fcukit> madpilot i've only tried one : o
[07:00] <PopeOfWar> rmd_: I installed windows after I installed Linux... so, as far as I'm concerned, you're SOL
[07:00] <jason_> Wine is running like ass for me. Anyone know of a way to improve performance?
[07:00] <Xenguy> Fcukit: sometimes it can just come down to hardware incompatibility
[07:00] <ArrenLex> burner: you can't use activesync with wine.
[07:00] <whyso> well crap :(
[07:00] <MNGRVE> can someone tell me where to get a lot of video codecs?
[07:00] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: you tried?
[07:00] <ArrenLex> burner: activesync requires a driver. wine does not do drivers. It's strictly API.
[07:00] <Madpilot> Fcukit, bad CDs happen, even on pressed CDs
[07:00] <ArrenLex> burner: ys.
[07:00] <ArrenLex> yes
[07:00] <jason_> MNGRVE: Try Automatix
[07:00] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell MNGRVE about codecs
[07:00] <TheH> can anyone PLEASE help me with getting underscan to work on xorg?
[07:00] <whyso> no way at all to get around that :?(
[07:00] <TheH> pleasee
[07:00] <Madpilot> jason_, please don't recommend that disaster
[07:01] <Xenguy> !automatix
[07:01] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:01] <ArrenLex> MNGRVE: download w32codecs from the mplayer page and put them in /usr/lib/win32
[07:01] <bur[n] er> bummer..... guess it's vmware for me for awhile... wish i could get a "linux-friendly" phone... i heard the blackberry pearl is a usb mass storage device :)
[07:01] <MNGRVE> kk
[07:01] <ArrenLex> !repeat
[07:01] <jason_> Madpilot: So thier wiki was right, haha.
[07:01] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:01] <rmd_> you know, there might be something to warning users that they'll lose the ability to restore their system by installing grub..
[07:01] <Madpilot> jason_, which wiki?
[07:01] <rmd_> at least that it is possible
[07:01] <ArrenLex> burner: I just have an SD card in my own smartphone and a card reader in my computer.
[07:01] <PopeOfWar> Ok, how do I downalod the friggin' build-essential package?? I am at http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/build-essential but I can't find a way to download anything!!
[07:01] <jason_> the Automatix wiki states that #ubuntu say negative things about their tools
[07:02] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: by microsd is behind the battery... lil bit of a pain :\
[07:02] <Madpilot> jason_, yes, we do. This is because automatix breask things.
[07:02] <ArrenLex> Burner: I understand. Other than googling your phone, there's nothing I can suggest. Sorry. = /
[07:02] <Madpilot> PopeOfWar, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:02] <jason_> Personally, it saved me a lot of time. But i only used it to install codecs and a few apps that i would usually install. I hope that hasn't broken anything
[07:02] <jason_> I took it off straight afterwards, anyway
[07:02] <PopeOfWar> rmd_: You *might* lose the ability to restore your system by right-clicking on your desktop, but it rarely happens...
[07:02] <weex> my irda port doesn't seem to want to work, is there some way i can test it?
[07:02] <rmd_> automatix is crap.  try easyubuntu if you have to do something
[07:03] <TheH> anyone can help me with xorg underscan issue?
[07:03] <PopeOfWar> Madpilot: I have no internet connection. I need to download it manually.
[07:03] <weex> easyubuntu worked phor me
[07:03] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: i tried that... i use a "T-Mobile SDA" which is pretty unique
[07:03] <Schalken> is it possible to recursivley chmod every _folder_ (but no files) in a directory?
[07:03] <bur[n] er> thanks anyway
[07:03] <ArrenLex> burner: sorry. = /
[07:04] <PopeOfWar> Madpilot: I need to donload it so I can compile the drivers to install my NIC, lol
[07:04] <bur[n] er> ArrenLex: no worries, i appreciate the banter about devices though ;)
[07:04] <ArrenLex> Schalken: yes. "sudo chmod -R <code> ."
[07:04] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[07:04] <rmd_> PopeOfWar: the difference, of course, being that i've lost the ability to run my restoration software because of something that ubuntu did that i was unaware of.  your flippant analogy, on the other hand, has no basis in reality.
[07:04] <ArrenLex> Schalken, wait.
[07:04] <Madpilot> PopeOfWar, ah. Messy. archive.ubuntu.com is not made for mere humans to navigate...
[07:04] <TheH> hello
[07:04] <m0`> hi inorder for Firefox to work I have to run, export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS = 1, first in console then firefox after
[07:04] <m0`> How do I do this automatically
[07:05] <m0`> like is there some global exports?
[07:05] <PopeOfWar> rmd_: Why can't you run your installation software? You just pop the disc in and boot from it...
[07:05] <Schalken> ArrenLex: if i give everything permissions 700 it asks if i want to open or execute every file, if i give them permissions 600 i cant open any folders, so i need folders to have 700 and files to have 600.
[07:05] <rmd_> PopeOfWar:  this illustrates the point that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
[07:05] <ladydoor> m0`: you could edit your firefox launcher, or add an alias to your .bashrc...
[07:06] <m0`> ladydoor: .bashrc ahs nothing to do with a program launcher
[07:06] <PopeOfWar> rmd_: I know exatly what I'm talking about... Step 1: Press the power button on your computer. Step 2: Insert your bootable recovery disc. Step 3: RUN THE FRICKIN RECOVERY!!!
[07:06] <ladydoor> m0`: that's why they were two separate options. i don't know what you do to launch your programs.
[07:06] <TheH> Is there a way to use underscan on xorg? to shrink the display video?
[07:07] <AlReece45> PopeOfWar: There is no recovery disk, it is a recovery partion on the hard drive
[07:07] <m0`> ladydoor: I use a launcher
[07:07] <rmd_> PopeOfWar: there is no recovery disk.  the recovery software is on a bootable fat16 partition that grub is unable to load correctly.
[07:07] <PopeOfWar> AlReece45: rmd_: Are you guys running HP computers??
[07:07] <m0`> I need export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS = 1 , inorder for firefox to work
[07:07] <ladydoor> m0`: k, great. there should be a way to edit what command it runs when you're launching.
[07:08] <rmd_> PopeOfWar: that information is irrelevent, unless you're looking for another "reason" to hate the brand
[07:08] <m0`> What do I add in the Command Area?
[07:08] <m0`> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS = 1 | firefox %u
[07:08] <TheH> Is there a way to use underscan on xorg? to shrink the display video?
[07:08] <m0`> how do I have more than one command in one line
[07:08] <TheH> anyone with a quick tip?
[07:08] <ArrenLex> Scalken: this is a really hacky way. I apologise in advance in how bad at is. I'm sure someone can come up with an infinitely better method.
[07:09] <ArrenLex> Schalken: list=`file * | grep directory | awk '{ print $1 }' | sed 's/://g'` && sudo chmod 700 $list
[07:09] <ladydoor> m0`: i'd suggest a semicolon or "&&"
[07:09] <ladydoor> m0`: (without the quotes)
[07:09] <PopeOfWar> rmd_: I don't need another "reason" to hate the brand... I have already had problems recovering my system from the partition... and not even because I installed something (like Linux), it just randomly crashed...
[07:09] <muhammad> any1 know how to take screenshots during ubuntu installation ?
[07:09] <bruenig> m0' you can either put && which will only do the second command if the first is successful or a semicolon which will do the second regardless
[07:09] <PopeOfWar> Step 1: Firmly swing a hammer into the side of your HP machine. Step 2: Buy a Dell
[07:10] <rmd_> PopeOfWar: I'm running a Dell and I am having the problem.
[07:10] <PopeOfWar> lmao
[07:10] <Xenguy> Schalken: maybe find and xargs would work too
[07:10] <rmd_> jackass
[07:10] <lnxusr> I agree with #1 pope
[07:10] <Schalken> ArrenLex: lol has do be done recursively tho
[07:10] <m0`> bruenig: I did that but it says cannot find application
[07:10] <kishore> can we define our own... commands..
[07:10] <cpw> There!
[07:10] <kishore> for doing particular task..
[07:10] <Xenguy> Schalken: chmod can be done recursively
[07:10] <J-_> I have a HP a450n, Linux works really well. Never going back to windows, it's not even worth the trouble.
[07:10] <PopeOfWar> rmd_: I have never heard of a legitimate Dell machine using a hard drive partition for the system recovery...
[07:10] <bruenig> m0' you did what command? paste the whole thing in here
[07:11] <bruenig> Dell puts spyware on their computer by default
[07:11] <kishore> can we define our own command in shell :(
[07:11] <Madpilot> cpw, Opera's little lurker in the notification area? There's a startup option w/ Opera to stop it, you know.
[07:11] <m0`> bruenig: I am trying to place export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS = 1
[07:11] <bruenig> My Way Search Assistant got to love that. Although if you are going to reformat and install linux, no big deal
[07:11] <cpw> Madpilot: so I found out :P
[07:11] <m0`> bruenig:I need "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS = 1" before openeing firefox
[07:11] <ArrenLex> m0, just do this.
[07:11] <m0`> Thats what I need
[07:11] <rmd_> PopeOfWar: that's odd because there are about a million pages committed to the fact that Dell Inspirons use it.  Try this thing called "Google"
[07:11] <Schalken> Xenguy: yes but i want to recursivley give every folder in a directory certain permissions and every file other permissions
[07:11] <Caplain_> is there a better alternative to nautilus?
[07:11] <ArrenLex> sudo nano /usr/bin/firefox
[07:11] <Madpilot> cpw, best thing Opera did between 9.0 & 9.01 ;)
[07:11] <cpw> Madpilot: it was really annoying because it was this hideous orange color that didn't match my panel at all :/
[07:12] <ladydoor> m0`: right, so insert that plus a semicolon before firefox in your launcher
[07:12] <bruenig> m0' export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS = 1 && /usr/bin/firefox
[07:12] <ArrenLex> m0, Put export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS = 1 on the second line.
[07:12] <Madpilot> cpw, orange? By default it's red in every icon theme I've used.
[07:12] <TheH> Is there a way to use underscan on xorg? to shrink the display video?
[07:12] <Shadowpillar> how do I resize a fat32 partition?
[07:12] <ArrenLex> TheH: NO ONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT UNDERSCAN. WE CAN'T HELP YOU. GOOGLE IT.
[07:12] <bruenig> I never understood why opera needed to be in the notification panel, thought that odd for a browser
[07:12] <cherubiel> Shadowpillar: gparted is your friend
[07:13] <Xenguy> Schalken: if you just want to set all dir's with a perm, and all files with the same perm, then it is easy -- otherwise, maybe it is not so easy to automate :-)
[07:13] <PopeOfWar> rmd_: Okay, you're right, I had it mistaken for another brand... but it should've also come with a recovery disc... and I know FOR SURE that you can get one for probably $5-$10 by calling them... that simple...
[07:13] <TheH> thx I have google italready
[07:13] <m0`> ArrenLex: Thanks !!!! :)
[07:13] <m0`> ArrenLex: Why didn't I think of that :)
[07:13] <Madpilot> bruenig, file a bug w/ opera complaining about it. If enough people yell, maybe it'll go away for good...
[07:13] <ArrenLex> Schalken, the command I gave you will do it.
[07:13] <TheH> no luck
[07:13] <bruenig> TheH, try the forums, I have always found good advice there ubuntuforums.org
[07:13] <m0`> Now My FLASH doesn't crash Firefox!
[07:14] <ArrenLex> Schalken, to make it run for files only, replace "grep" with "grep -v"
[07:14] <TheH> sounds good, Thank you !
[07:14] <Schalken> ArrenLex: okay i will try
[07:14] <Xenguy> Schalken: the logic is you 'find' all dirs, then use 'xargs' to chmod a perm
[07:15] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: he said he wants all folders 600 and all files 700.
[07:15] <tropobot> hello ppl - im new here
[07:15] <PopeOfWar> Madpilot: Do you know how to download the build-essential files? Because the site isn't even mad for superior beings like me to navigate... lol
[07:15] <ArrenLex> Madpilot, apt-get install build-essential.
[07:15] <Schalken> Xenguy: i dont have a perm :p
[07:15] <ArrenLex> Or find the package in synaptic.
[07:15] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: then that is easy with find/xargs
[07:15] <Madpilot> PopeOfWar, I've no idea. ArrenLex, he can't connect his Ubuntu system to the web...
[07:16] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: but your solution was quite creative
[07:16] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: guide me with your infinite wisdom, sensei.
[07:16] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: I always love learning new shortcuts.
[07:16] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: aww, don't go all sarcastic on me now :-)
[07:16] <Shadowpillar> cherubiel: yeah I figured that one out rather quickly :P
[07:16] <ArrenLex> Xenguy, no, I'm serious! Tell me how.
[07:16] <Madpilot> PopeOfWar, I think that b-e can be installed from the alternative installer CD
[07:16] <Shadowpillar> cherubiel: is it possible to resize ext3 without damage?
[07:16] <ArrenLex> Madpilot, if you can't connect to the web, download it from packages.ubuntu.com
[07:16] <cherubiel> Shadowpillar: non-destructive,
[07:17] <PopeOfWar> Madpilot: I've had this problem for 4 days, and I already know what to do... but how to do it? I haven't a clue...
[07:17] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, you need to talk to PopeOfWar, he's the one with the problem
[07:17] <Shadowpillar> cherubiel: ?
[07:17] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: find . -type d |xargs chmod -R 700
[07:17] <jmartini> ArrenLex: find . -type d | xargs chmod 600
[07:17] <cherubiel> Howdy PopeOfWar!
[07:17] <PopeOfWar> Howdy cherubiel!
[07:17] <jmartini> d'oh make that 700 for the directories
[07:17] <ArrenLex> Awesome. I'll make a mental note of that. Thanks xenguy and jmartini!
[07:18] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: yw
[07:18] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: I'm glad you're here, because you already know all about my problem, lmao... how do I download the fracking build-essential from packages.ubuntu.com??
[07:18] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: did you follow the steps i mentioned yday? about d/w the dependencies?
[07:18] <jmartini> Xenguy: I'm a little concerned by that -R in your version, won't that walk down hit the files as well?
[07:19] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: installing them and then proceeding to the main package? btw, if you had the installation cd, it should be easier
[07:19] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: That's the thing... I can't figure out how to download *anything*!!! lol
[07:19] <lnxusr> 822 people in here only 10 or so are  talking
[07:19] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: I don't have the installation cd... it was a download, then put on the cd
[07:19] <cherubiel> you mean, you have the ISO ?
[07:19] <Xenguy> jmartini: no, just the dir's -- but recursively, yes
[07:20] <Xenguy> jmartini: the 'find' filters to just dir's
[07:20] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel... yeah
[07:20] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: it will hit all the files WITHIN the dirs.
[07:20] <tropobot> i have an old system - a P2 with 128 MB of RAM - I've installed Ubuntu on it. [ http://shekhars.livejournal.com/1373.html ]
[07:20] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Does that have everything on it?
[07:20] <tropobot> i have a problem with display resolution
[07:20] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: and you've burnt it too? then why don't you add it to the sources.lst, and do an apt-get install build-essentail
[07:20] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: no, I don't think so -- that is what '-type d' is for
[07:21] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: whatever you need now, it has.
[07:21] <jmartini> Xenguy: right but when you pass that to chmod -R it's going to grab the first dir and walk down it doing the chmod on everything it finds
[07:21] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: I hate people who are smarter than me...
[07:21] <jmartini> Then the second
[07:21] <Xenguy> jmartini: no -- try a test, you will see
[07:21] <PopeOfWar> lmao
[07:21] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: the type d just means that it won't mod the files in your current directory. But it WILL recurse over the files in the folders you're chmodding.
[07:21] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: nothing beer can't help solve ;)
[07:22] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: that has not been my experience, but 2 people seem to disagree with me at the moment :-)
[07:22] <tropobot> no matter what I do, resolution won't go beyond 640x480 - my 14 inch samtron sc 428vs+ e is capable of displaying max res. of 800x600 -- anyone know anything about this?
[07:22] <lnxusr> tropobot what resolution
[07:22] <Madpilot> !fixres
[07:22] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:22] <lnxusr> oh 640 x480
[07:22] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Too bad I'm only 14, lmao
[07:22] <Madpilot> tropobot, check the last URL above there
[07:22] <tropobot> lnxusr: yes
[07:22] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: :O
[07:22] <tropobot> looking...
[07:22] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: I just tested it.
[07:23] <lnxusr> can you edit the xorg config file
[07:23] <ArrenLex> ls -l: -rw-r--r-- 1 alex alex    0 2006-09-23 23:22 file2 drwxr-xr-x 2 alex alex 4096 2006-09-23 23:22 Folder
[07:23] <ArrenLex> > run find . -type d |xargs chmod -R 777
[07:23] <lnxusr> add your owmn modlines in there
[07:23] <ArrenLex> ls -l: -rwxrwxrwx 1 alex alex    0 2006-09-23 23:22 file2 , drwxrwxrwx 2 alex alex 4096 2006-09-23 23:22 Folder
[07:23] <ArrenLex> Read it and weep.
[07:23] <tropobot> how?
[07:24] <lnxusr> well 1st are familer with xorg.conf
[07:24] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: hrm, obviously I will have to test this myself
[07:24] <yarddog> whats the command to see if dri is working?
[07:24] <jmartini> Xenguy: hate to say it, you're wrong
[07:24] <Madpilot> lnxusr, check http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:25] <tropobot> yes - im familiar
[07:25] <tropobot> what do i do
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: the problem is that find type -d also returns the current directory, "."
[07:25] <ArrenLex> And when chmod recurses over "." it also hits all the files in .
[07:26] <Madpilot> tropobot, sorry - check the URL I just gave to lnxusr
[07:26] <gnopgnip> is it easy to network with win2k and winxp?
[07:26] <ArrenLex> jmartini: confirmed that your way works.
[07:27] <ArrenLex> gnopgnip: yes, pretty easy. You need to install samba.
[07:27] <lnxusr> yes the url goes over in detail  tropobot thanks madpilot
[07:27] <PopeOfWar> Where is the sources.lst file... or whatever it was? And how do I add my install cd to it?
[07:28] <ArrenLex> PopeofWar: "apt-cdrom --help" will tell you all you need to know.
[07:28] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: confirmed.  Thanks, I learned something new tonight :-)
[07:29] <PopeOfWar> Wait... can't I just use the package manager that opened from the cd to install build-essential?
[07:29] <Xenguy> jmartini: confirmed - it happens :-)
[07:29] <ArrenLex> Xen: we all did. I learned how to use find to get directories, you learned that find returns "." and jmartini learned that being smart earns him cookies.
[07:29] <lnxusr> madpilot u run other versions of Linux  besides ubuntu
[07:29] <Madpilot> lnxusr, no
[07:29] <aalex> hi
[07:29] <lnxusr> oh just curious
[07:29] <jmartini> Xenguy: yeah chmod isn't picky about the arg list when you use -R and goes to work on the files too
[07:30] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: The Synaptic Package Manager opened when I put my Ubuntu cd in... can't I just install build-essential from that? And will it automatically install the dependencies, too?
[07:30] <ArrenLex> PopeOfWar: if you can get it to work, and build-essential is on there, yes and yes.
[07:30] <Madpilot> PopeOfWar, it should, yes
[07:30] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: go ahead.
[07:30] <aalex> does anyone here have a problem installing ffmpeg on dapper ? it is weird. it needs some versions of libc6 and libsdl1.2debian
[07:31] <Xenguy> jmartini: I wonder if that means you just need to change the 'dir' name from '.' to the specific directory name?
[07:31] <PopeOfWar> Ok, but I only need to install build-essential... I don't need to track down the dependencies, correct?
[07:31] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: apt is your friend, it does all that for ya
[07:31] <PopeOfWar> They will be put on there automatically...
[07:31] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: right.
[07:31] <PopeOfWar> ok, tahnk you
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Xen: find Folder/ -type d -> Folder/
[07:31] <gnopgnip> but with samba don't you have to download it and be part of a network
[07:31] <PopeOfWar> thank*
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Xen: that'll work.
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Xen: that won't work.
[07:32] <ArrenLex> Xen: chmod -R will recurse over all the files in Folder/ anyway.
[07:32] <ArrenLex> Xen: you CANNOT do this if you run chmod with -R
[07:32] <jmartini> Xenguy: Nope, chmod will take the first directory in the arg list and process `chmod -R dir` which will chmod the files in it too
[07:32] <PopeOfWar> It's installing! One more step towards intenetness!
[07:32] <PopeOfWar> internetness*
[07:32] <ArrenLex> Yay internetness.
[07:32] <Xenguy> jmartini: confirmed; doesn't work either
[07:32] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hey guys. what are unmet dependencies?
[07:32] <anubis> i need some help, this is my first time ever using linux, i want to instal XFCE as my Desktop Enviroment, can someboy help me?
[07:33] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: some packages depend on other packages to function.
[07:33] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Arren: i get this when trying to install Xgl Compiz
[07:33] <Xenguy> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: that's why synaptic is your best friend
[07:33] <anubis> i need some help, this is my first time ever using linux, i want to instal XFCE as my Desktop Enviroment, can someboy help me?
[07:34] <cherubiel> anubis: enable univers repo, apt-get isntall xfce4
[07:34] <ArrenLex> anubis: have you already installed ubuntu or are you just approaching it? What state is your system in?
[07:34] <Xenguy> anubis: unless you have older hardware, maybe you want to just stick with gnome for awhile - it can be a little easier in the beginning
[07:34] <ArrenLex> anubis: if you haven't installed ubuntu yet, just download xubuntu rather than ubuntu.
[07:34] <cpw> I somehow got into an endless loop with that
[07:34] <anubis> its installed
[07:35] <ArrenLex> anubis: you are running gnome?
[07:35] <cpw> I went to add/remove programs, told me I needed to enable the commercial component
[07:35] <anubis> i have older hardware
[07:35] <cpw> I said ok.. it did some stuff, prompted me again.. I said ok, it did some stuff, prompted me again
[07:35] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys how to install this Xgl stuff
[07:35] <anubis> im barely starting im triying thisn on an spare P3 i have, if it works ill install it in my core2duo
[07:35] <PopeOfWar> ArrenLex: yay
[07:35] <PopeOfWar> lol
[07:35] <ArrenLex> Punjabi, what problems are you having?
[07:35] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> the #ubuntu-xgl doesnthelp at al
[07:35] <anubis> but right now performance if aweful
[07:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Arren: tell me some good guide to install Xgl
[07:36] <Xenguy> anubis: xfce can probably help that...
[07:36] <cpw> you don't need xgl, you've got ubuntu
[07:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i need more eye candy
[07:36] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Now I do the ./configure&&make, right?
[07:36] <Xenguy> anubis: tho some apps (e.g. OOo) are just impossible on older hardware
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: if apt-get install xserver-xgl isn't good enough for you, try google.
[07:36] <ArrenLex> !xgl
[07:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:36] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: go ahead dude.
[07:36] <anubis> i know, thats why i wanna try it
[07:36] <cpw> You just tell people "I use ubuntu", children laugh, the clouds part and sunshine comes out, and world peace ensues
[07:36] <anubis> ok first , how do i enable the universal repositories
[07:36] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> cpw: lol
[07:36] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Ok, it still says bash: ./configure: No such file or directory...
[07:37] <lnxusr> good one cpw
[07:37] <Xenguy> !repos > anubis
 you don't need xgl, you've got ubuntu.........>what??
[07:37] <Madpilot> anubis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[07:37] <Geoffrey2> one of these days I'll figure out why they have a Wine support channel on here, when every inquiry about whether a program will work invariably leads to a response of..."why bother, just use a Linux program"
[07:37] <ArrenLex> bruenig: I think cpw is drunk.
[07:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> it says on the page:The compiz repositories are currently broken - DO NOT INSTALL
[07:37] <anubis> kk brb ty
[07:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> what does this mean
[07:37] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ?>
[07:37] <bruenig> That doesn't make even the slightest amount of sense
[07:37] <cpw> no, just really tired :/
[07:37] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: follow instructions in your README/INSTALL
[07:37] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: something we can help you with, or just a random comment?
[07:37] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: drunk with ubuntu-looooooovvvvvveeeee :P
[07:37] <cpw> I was fighting with Japanese input all day
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Xenguy: I actually hate ubuntu.
[07:38] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Arren: why so?>
[07:38] <Xenguy> ArrenLex: awww, and after all that fine help too ;-)
[07:38] <Geoffrey2> I was trying to find out if there was any Windows based DVD player that would run under Wine
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: I love Debian.
[07:38] <lnxusr> arrenlex runs Fedora core 5 ?
[07:38] <Geoffrey2> apparently the answer to that is still no
[07:38] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> lol. But ubuntu is based on debian
[07:38] <lnxusr> cool
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: can you tell me why you want to run a windows-based DVD player?
[07:39] <Xenguy> .oO(Debian is my first love :P )
[07:39] <lnxusr> anybody run the real mcoy Debian sarge etch or sid ?
[07:39] <bruenig> Geoffrey2, why bother, just use a linux program
[07:39] <cpw> I have a debian mailserver running dovecot
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: yes, I know that, duh. But ubuntu is basically debian + whorishness of name
[07:39] <Madpilot> ArrenLex, Ubuntu is Debian. Just browner & better.
[07:39] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Arren: Maybe you can suggest how to instal Xgl
[07:39] <Xenguy> lnxusr: I used to - props to Debian
[07:40] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i need a step by step tutorial. help me! its for my gf :)
[07:40] <bruenig> browner...a lovely change...
[07:40] <ArrenLex> The only reason I run ubuntu is because of a bug that made it into Debian Testing with libpango that stopped rendering text in GTK applications and made my system unusable.
[07:40] <PopeOfWar> *ahh* I am so sorry I am being such a noob and bothering you, lol, but the Makefile isn't working...
[07:40] <lnxusr> I am on Debian Etch
[07:40] <cpw> I'm on Etch too
[07:40] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: a broken source?
[07:40] <cpw> it runs on a 233mhz with 128MB of ram and 3Gigs of disk space!
[07:40] <Geoffrey2> um, because there's not a single Linux DVD player out there that will play commercial DVDs without circumventing copyright protection...and even if a majority of the Linux community sees no problem with that, I do....
[07:41] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: I don't know... nothing really seems to happen when I run it...
[07:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> people please help me isntalling Xgl
[07:41] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: do you see a configure file in the folder?
[07:41] <cpw> ArrenLex: maybe both?
[07:41] <hantu> !xgl
[07:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:41] <Madpilot> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, #ubuntu-xgl
[07:41] <cpw> PopeOfWar: also, do you see a configure.in file?
[07:41] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Madpilot: what does ths mean:The compiz repositories are currently broken - DO NOT INSTALL
[07:42] <bruenig> Geoffrey2, did you pay for the windows dvd players you want to use?
[07:42] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: Three files in the folder... "fa311v2.c" "Makefile" and "readme.txt"
[07:42] <Madpilot> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, um, that something is not working and you shouldn't install xgl, probably...
[07:42] <cpw> run make
[07:42] <bruenig> windvd or what not
[07:42] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> madpilot: but why so
[07:42] <Madpilot> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, I have no idea, I don't run XGL.
[07:43] <Geoffrey2> bruenig, now that you mention it, I do have a copy of Nero I paid for..
[07:43] <C_BASS> hi, im trying to become a ubuntu user but im having some problem with hardware compatibility
[07:43] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: because the packages are currently broken, it seems to say.
[07:43] <C_BASS> can someone help me pleasse?
[07:43] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: Nero cannot play CDs.
[07:43] <PopeOfWar> !someone
[07:43] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:43] <ArrenLex> CDs -> DVDs
[07:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Arren: THanks.
[07:43] <MugginsM> I use Linux DVD players because the Windows ones refuse to play half my DVDs
[07:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> but one think I have found out. People dont recommend Xgl
[07:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> god knows why
[07:43] <bruenig> Geoffrey2, there you go. You paid for them.
[07:43] <C_BASS> can someone help me please?
[07:43] <cpw> Most people use the linux dvd player "Bittorrent"
[07:43] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> C_BASS: ask please
[07:44] <ArrenLex> cpw: Discuss that with Shawn Hogan.
[07:44] <Madpilot> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, ask on #ubuntu-xgl, that is the best channel to find out what's broken
[07:44] <C_BASS> im haing hardware compatibility issues
[07:44] <jmartini> MugginsM: You can get half of them to work? My DVD software quit after a patch to the OS and I just threw up my hands and walked away
[07:44] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Madpilot: already there :)
[07:44] <C_BASS> do you know if a voodoo 3dfx works with ubuntu?
[07:44] <PopeOfWar> !someone > C_BASS
[07:45] <Geoffrey2> ArrenLex, Nero for Linux...no...Nero for Windows, however, definitely can play DVDs
[07:45] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> C_BASS: You want to enable 3d acceleration?
[07:45] <lnxusr> nice talking to everyone just Remember what vista stants for Virus Infections Spyware Trojans Adware bye all
[07:45] <C_BASS> no
[07:45] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> then why do u want to test that?
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: Look at it this way. DVDs are encrypted so you don't copy them and rip them.
[07:45] <C_BASS> i want to know if my video card works with ubuntu
[07:45] <rmd_> i can't wait to spend half my day installing windows *and* ubuntu
[07:45] <bruenig> Geoffrey2, so get libdvdcss and get on with it, you have paid yours
[07:45] <Xenguy> lnxusr: nice
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Geoffrey: if you bought the DVD, it is legal to watch it. Not to copy or distribute it, but to watch it.
[07:45] <PopeOfWar> C_BASS: Try it with the Live CD...
[07:45] <MugginsM> DVDs are encrypted to make us pay lots more for them, not to protect them
[07:45] <C_BASS> well i dont have any cds yet
[07:46] <ArrenLex> C_Bass: did you already install ubuntu?
[07:46] <PopeOfWar> rmd_ Windows only takes about a half-hour to install... and Ubuntu only takes about 0 minutes...
[07:46] <C_BASS> im just looking to see if my system will work with ubuntu
[07:46] <PopeOfWar> 10 minutes...
[07:46] <bruenig> MugginsM, protection is needed to make people pay a lot more for them
[07:46] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> try running a live CD Then
[07:46] <C_BASS> no
[07:46] <Caplain_> how do i switch from gcc 4.x to 3.x?
[07:46] <Madpilot> C_BASS, if you've got a burner, you can download the ISO & burn yourself a LiveCD...
[07:46] <munkay> C_BASS: easiest way, run the live cd and copy the xorg.conf file, works all the time :D
[07:46] <jmartini> C_BASS: burn a copy of the live cd and boot off it
[07:46] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Caplain: Synaptic
[07:47] <cpw> ArrenLex: wow, that guy sounds bored
[07:47] <MugginsM> bruenig: yes, and also to ensure that those of us not in the US pay 3x the price
[07:47] <bruenig> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, synaptic wouldn't have two versions of gcc
[07:47] <PopeOfWar> C_BASS: ^^See above^^ lmao
[07:47] <C_BASS> hmm ok
[07:47] <ArrenLex> cpw: what guy is this now?
[07:47] <C_BASS> lol
[07:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> bruenig: It has on my PC
[07:47] <Caplain_> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: oh just install version 3.x?
[07:47] <cpw> ArrenLex: through a couple of million at a lawsuit?  Why not, it's a sunny tuesday!
[07:47] <cpw> ArrenLex: this Shawn Hogan fellow
[07:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Caplain: I didnt have gcc installed as default with ubuntu
[07:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> but now its installed using synaptic
[07:47] <ArrenLex> cpw: he's not bored, he's fighting against what he believes is an abuse of power.
[07:47] <anubis> i just realised im using ubunto 5.04 if i wanted dapper, whad do i need to do, download and reinstall?
[07:48] <ArrenLex> anubis: no! just upgrade.
[07:48] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> to test whether gcc is installed, go to terminal and type gcc --version
[07:48] <bruenig> MugginsM, what base price are you saying we pay 3x more than and just to make sure, we are talking about movies not the removable media
[07:48] <ArrenLex> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade or use synaptic.
[07:48] <anubis> apt-get upgrade?
[07:48] <Madpilot> anubis, you'd need to upgrade to 5.10, then to 6.06
[07:48] <MugginsM> bruenig: DVDs in the stores here are about US $20
[07:48] <anubis> pls tell me how if you are so kind
[07:48] <MugginsM> $30 for a new release
[07:48] <bruenig> MugginsM, and why do you say it is more?
[07:48] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> how do i check which version m i running?
[07:48] <ArrenLex> anubis, I just said: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade or use synaptic.
[07:49] <anubis> ok thanks
[07:49] <Madpilot> anubis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:49] <MugginsM> bruenig: I can get them for a lot less if I buy from Amazon, but then commercial DVD players won't play them
[07:49] <munkay> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: gcc is a symlink to the version currently used, do a ls -l `which gcc`
[07:49] <Xenguy> anubis: read the web page
[07:49] <cpw> https for a wiki?
[07:49] <ArrenLex> cpw: the upgrade notes are SECRET!
[07:50] <ArrenLex> cpw: you shouldn't even be seeing them. They're classified by the FBI.
[07:50] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: I think my problem might be... my NEW_INCLUDE_PATH isn't specified right...
[07:50] <PopeOfWar> What would
[07:50] <ArrenLex> cpw: if you ever tell anyone we showed you the 6.06 release notes, we will have to kill you.
[07:50] <PopeOfWar> i sorry, what would I set that to?
[07:50] <weex> yeah https means everything doesn't go straight to the fbi for processing
[07:50] <PopeOfWar> weex: It goes to the *cia* stupid, lol
[07:50] <Xenguy> better yet, just encrypt everything
[07:51] <weex> btw is basic auth + https enough?
[07:51] <weex> i work for the fbi and want to protect my sensitive data ;-)
[07:51] <ArrenLex> Everyone run! Weex works for the FBI!
[07:51] <Madpilot> cpw, https because people log in to edit it
[07:51] <nalioth> !offtopic
[07:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:51] <cherubiel> PopeOfWar: i still *don't* know where you're stuck, you ran the make command and says it broke - give us output -
[07:51] <weex> kidding i must say
[07:52] <terryubuntu> hello people - just installed ubuntu & have a minor problem - wondering if anyone may be able to help - screen related
[07:52] <ArrenLex> !ask
[07:52] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:52] <nalioth> ArrenLex: can we keep our discussion to Ubuntu support?
[07:52] <ArrenLex> nalioth: but that would be boring. We do help people. Let us have fun too.
[07:52] <nalioth> ArrenLex: "Fun" is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:53] <ArrenLex> Nalioth: I figure for every two people I give hacky bad scripts to, I can run away from the FBI in mock terror once.
[07:53] <ArrenLex> nalioth: "nailoth" is #ubuntu-boring
[07:53] <Xenguy> It seems like a reasonable ratio
[07:53] <weex> !ontopic
[07:53] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:53] <terryubuntu> ok - during & after installation, I had a bright line of about 8-10 pixels down the left hand side opf screen - black bar on right hand side of about 30 pixels
[07:53] <terryubuntu> mboard is msi 945GM2
[07:54] <terryubuntu> screen is lg stuidoworks 55V
[07:54] <ArrenLex> ...
[07:54] <jason_> argh, how can i turn off this spellcheck on all my textboxes?
[07:54] <Caplain_> reading file lists in nautilus is taking a really long time, is there a way to fix this?
[07:54] <terryubuntu> changing screen res doesn't do anything apart from change res - incorrect driver?
[07:54] <bruenig> Caplain_, go to Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[07:55] <bruenig> then do ls directory
[07:55] <jmartini> Caplain_: learn to read faster?
[07:55] <weex> !attemptedjoke
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about attemptedjoke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:55] <PopeOfWar> Ok... I ran the ./configure&&make command (when I was CDed to the proper directory, I might add), it returned "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory"... so I decided to try the file name that I need to compile, I entered "./fa311v2.c&&make" returned "bash: ./fa311v2.c: Permision denied" I tried "sudo ./fa311v2.c&&make" returned "sudo: ./fa311v2.c: command not found" I'm stuck in a...
[07:55] <PopeOfWar> ...bind here, and I have no clue how to get out
[07:55] <nalioth> PopeOfWar: join #ubuntu-classroom please
[07:56] <PopeOfWar> nalioth: why?
[07:56] <Xenguy> PopeOfWar: because it is more fun that #ubuntu-boring
[07:56] <ArrenLex> XD!
[07:57] <terryubuntu> !ask
[07:57] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:57] <Caplain_> bruenig: hmmm i guess the terminal would be better, get a C.L.U.E>?
[07:58] <jason_> Anyone know how to turn off this spellchecker on every textbox? i don't know how it got on here
[07:58] <jason_> it's on everything, even XChat
[07:58] <PopeOfWar> cherubiel: nalioth wants to see is he/she can help... and #ubuntu-classroom is a lot quiter than in here...
[07:58] <homer_linux> hiya ppl whats the command for stoping X form the terminal
[07:58] <bruenig> jason_, how do you get spell check in xchat, I want that
[07:58] <Neo8750> homer_linux: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:58] <Neo8750> or
[07:59] <jmartini> Caplain_: do you mean that nautilus is slow to read and display directory contents as compared to just and ls in a terminal?
[07:59] <jason_> bruenig: Something's been installed.. i don't know why it's doing this
[07:59] <bruenig> jason_, is the spell check accurate?
[07:59] <ArrenLex> PopeOfWar: I'm pretty sure nalioth is an ubuntu developer trying to restore order to the list by kicking off one of the 10 of the 815 people who answer questions.
[07:59] <jason_> the textfield control (universal) has been modified on every program that uses it.
[07:59] <Neo8750> homer_linux: /etc/init.d/x11-common stop
[07:59] <jason_> it's accurate, yes
[07:59] <Neo8750> not sure
[07:59] <jason_> But i want it off.
[07:59] <bruenig> cool, if you figure out how it got on, please tell
[07:59] <jason_> I will
[08:00] <terryubuntu> actually, never mind - seems screen settings were way off compared to windows - screen shift has fixed it up - bizarre
[08:00] <Neo8750> hmmm
[08:00] <weex> is there some way to allow apps that only look at local drives to also look at samba/windows shares?
[08:01] <sh1> hey.l.
[08:01] <Neo8750> weex: mount the share and browse that way
[08:01] <jmartini> weex: mount them on your filesystem and they are transparently read just as if they were local
[08:01] <Shogran> new issue  yay!
[08:01] <terryubuntu> i do have another question though - possibly an ubuntu bug - if i move the mouse at a normal clip to the bottom of the screen, the screen scrolls up, but goes completely black
[08:01] <Shogran> tottally cant get svideo to run
[08:01] <terryubuntu> if i move it slowly, it scrolls down to the taskbar
[08:01] <Neo8750> sudo mount -o smbfs //computer/share /mount/point
[08:02] <Shogran> shows the boot screen clone, then ubuntu boot.. then bam.. soon as it lets me log in.. no dice.. no screen
[08:02] <Caplain_> jmartini: correct, and it usually locks up
[08:03] <Shogran> heyyo?
[08:04] <Shogran> okay..
[08:04] <jason_> whats that opengl GUI called? Xgf?
[08:05] <compwiz18> xgl?
[08:05] <terryubuntu> is there a hardware temp monitoring utility on a standard ubuntu install?
[08:05] <jmartini> Caplain_: how many entries in the directory are we talking about?
[08:05] <Shogran> ... cool im just gonna wait till somone who helped mebefore hops in
[08:05] <compwiz18> can someone help me with nm-applet and wpa?
[08:06] <jason_> ah, thats it
[08:07] <Caplain_> jmartini: about 10
[08:07] <jmartini> Caplain_: have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6438 . That may address the issue or get you pointed in the right direction
[08:07] <Shogran> can anyone help me set up S-video
[08:07] <Madpilot> terryubuntu, sensors aren't that hard to set up, usually
[08:07] <Madpilot> terryubuntu, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[08:07] <terryubuntu> thx madpilot
[08:07] <jmartini> Caplain_: its an old old article though
[08:08] <terryubuntu> madpilot - did you happen to see my quest6ion about screen scrolling?
[08:08] <sh1> sorry bout dad
[08:08] <sh1> dat^
[08:09] <Madpilot> terryubuntu, the 'screen goes completely black' question? Yes, and I've no idea what to suggest... sorry.
[08:09] <terryubuntu> bizarre - sometimes it goes completely bright grey too - very random
[08:09] <terryubuntu> thanks anyway
[08:10] <unfknblvbl> !jar
[08:10] <compwiz18> hello
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:10] <ryctor> dudes
[08:10] <unfknblvbl> !rar
[08:10] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:10] <Caplain_> jmartini: ill check it out, thx
[08:11] <Shogran> !s-video
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s-video - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <Shogran> !svideo
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svideo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <ryctor> i cant play dvds in ububtu, mediaplayer skips and give me a bunch of squares in colors and xine tell me i need libdvdcss which is not in the pkgs
[08:11] <compwiz18> you need to google libdvdcss
[08:12] <ryctor> will do
[08:12] <kendals> When I use Nautilus 'connecto a server' for FTP, how do I get the 'preparing to copy' window to show me a progress bar?
[08:12] <kendals> There is no indication of how much I have copied, etc... :(
[08:12] <compwiz18> there should be a rebo for libdvdcss out there, otherwise try automatix, it works well for setting up all that protected stuff
[08:13] <Xenguy> jmartini: after all that, the solution is to simply do the dirs first, and then do the files after -- done :-)
[08:13] <compwiz18> but no one can help me with network-managed and wpa_supplicant?
[08:13] <nalioth> compwiz18: please don't advise that.  libdvdcss is in the repos.
[08:13] <compwiz18> really?
[08:13] <compwiz18> sry, i didn't know that
[08:14] <jmartini> Xenguy: right, first do `find . -type d | xargs chmod 700` and then `find . -type f | xargs chmod 600`
[08:15] <Xenguy> jmartini: so I'm not completely mad afterall
[08:15] <lastnode> compwiz18, automatix is not advocated by this channel
[08:15] <jmartini> Xenguy: not entirely it seems
[08:15] <compwiz18> ok, sorry
[08:15] <Xenguy> jmartini: disappointing - I'll try harder :-)
[08:15] <m0dY> does apt-get records the currently installed pkgs in some registry file ?
[08:15] <kendals> When I use Nautilus 'connecto a server' for FTP, how do I get the 'preparing to copy' window to show me a progress bar?
[08:15] <ArrenLex> m0dY: no. You should look into apt-history, but you have to install it.
[08:16] <ArrenLex> Not apt-history. Hold on.
[08:16] <m0dY> ArrenLex: i think there should be some file or a db which it's writing the pkgs status into on my system..!
[08:16] <Neo8750> does anyone know of a project that programed progress bars into cli programs like cp
[08:17] <hastesaver> m0dY, try apt-cache policy
[08:17] <jmartini> Neo8750: some like scp already have it
[08:17] <hastesaver> m0dY, Is "apt-cache policy <packagename>" what you want?
[08:18] <m0dY> well, what i want and i've been searching all over google for is.. i wanna do some pkgs blacklisting from being installed/updated/upgraded through apt-get..
[08:18] <jmartini> Neo8750: but generally it isn't very useful. Better to just run it in the background
[08:18] <m0dY> yum pkg manager in redhat like systems have this excluding options..
[08:18] <ArrenLex> m0dY: I think you want apt-pinning.
[08:18] <m0dY> and please don't tell me look for pinning =(
[08:19] <ArrenLex> Why don't you like pinning? xD
[08:19] <surface-> ?
[08:19] <m0dY> well, i think pinning just prevent the pkgs from being updated and in some cases could be bypassed
[08:20] <m0dY> plus, ivn't got any "apt-pinning" pkg in my repo :)
[08:20] <ArrenLex> m0dY: pinning allows you to hold a package at a specific version, source, revision, etc. It allows you to specify which package versions can and cannot be installed. I think it's what you want.
[08:20] <ArrenLex> m0dy, pinning is done through the /etc/apt/preferences file
[08:20] <ArrenLex> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[08:21] <m0dY> so can i do it recursively for something like blocking all apache version, without telling exactly which versions to block
[08:21] <aceracer24> Anyone willing to help me figure out why nautilus crashes all th time on Edgy?
[08:21] <[NP] Tangent> uh help
[08:22] <ArrenLex> You mean, you installed your own version of apache and you don't want ubuntu to upgrade?
[08:22] <[NP] Tangent> my sound just completely went out
[08:22] <[NP] Tangent> reboot didn't help
[08:22] <Xenguy> aceracer24: debian? yer in the wrong room I think
[08:22] <m0dY> ArrenLex: EXACTLY :D
[08:22] <compwiz18> can someone point me to the guidelines for this irc channel?
[08:22] <[NP] Tangent> I mean
[08:22] <[NP] Tangent> ALL sound is gone
[08:22] <aceracer24> Xenguy: what room should I be in then?
[08:22] <m0dY> that's why i want some pkgs related to apache not to be installed by *ANY* way
[08:22] <aceracer24> This is Ubuntu room right?
[08:23] <Xenguy> aceracer24: #debian?
[08:23] <Xenguy> aceracer24: oh sorry
[08:23] <ArrenLex> m0dY: there are several ways to approach this. Firstly, did you install apache from source or as a package?
[08:23] <aceracer24> why would support for Edgy Eft be in debian?
[08:23] <Xenguy> aceracer24: I guess I'm on crack then
[08:23] <aceracer24> lol
[08:23] <Xenguy> aceracer24: seriously, I got confused with Etch :P
[08:23] <m0dY> ArrenLex: a source pkg
[08:23] <m0dY> not a .deb
[08:23] <aceracer24> hehe no worries
[08:23] <[NP] Tangent> surely my sound card hasn't died on me all of a sudden
[08:24] <[NP] Tangent> this is a laptop, the built in speakers don't work, the headphone jack doesn't work
[08:24] <ArrenLex> m0dY: look into the equivs package.
[08:24] <hastesaver> aceracer24, try #ubuntu+1 ?
[08:24] <ryctor> done
[08:24] <m0dY> equivs !?
[08:24] <PopeOfWar> [NP] Tangent: Surely your sound card has died all of a sudden.
[08:24] <aceracer24> hastesaver: thanks, I'll check it out
[08:24] <ryctor> installed libdvdcss2 and presto
[08:25] <ArrenLex> Yes, m0dY. Read all about it: apt-cache show equivs"
[08:25] <[NP] Tangent> PopeOfWar, it just worked 5 minutes ago
[08:25] <[NP] Tangent> now all of a sudden it doesn't
[08:25] <m0dY> ArrenLex: reading now :)
[08:25] <Ruckus> [NP] Tangent, maybe another application is blocking it from working?
[08:25] <ArrenLex> NP, what happens if you go /etc/init.d/alsa-utils force-reload
[08:25] <[NP] Tangent> it didn't make any popping noises or anything
[08:25] <PopeOfWar> [NP] Tangent: Funny, my friend fried his sound card about 20 minutes ago, too, lmao
[08:26] <compwiz18> no one knows how to do wpa_supplicant and network-manager?
[08:26] <[NP] Tangent> !pastebin
[08:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:26] <Neo-zZzZ> nn
[08:27] <compwiz18> !wpa_supplicant
[08:27] <ubotu> wpasupplicant: Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i). In component main, is important. Version 0.4.8-3ubuntu1.1 (dapper), package size 195 kB, installed size 532 kB
[08:27] <compwiz18> !network-manager
[08:27] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[08:27] <PopeOfWar> [NP] Tangent: Ascend to the top of a 15-story building. Locate a window. Open said window. Place laptop through window. Release laptop.
[08:27] <PopeOfWar> lol
[08:27] <[NP] Tangent> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24615
[08:27] <[NP] Tangent> that link's for ArrenLex
[08:28] <ArrenLex> NP: I know this advice will hurt you deeply, but how about... rebooting?
[08:28] <[NP] Tangent> I just did that
[08:28] <[NP] Tangent> no luck
[08:28] <PopeOfWar> ArrenLex: That was cold, man...
[08:28] <PopeOfWar> lmao
[08:28] <ArrenLex> Pope, I know, I know...
[08:29] <m0dY> ArrenLex: equivs is far from what i want.. unless it could let me just type a pkg name to be excluded and then it automatically exclude all pkgs related to it, dependencies and so on without stating *EACH* pkg
[08:29] <ArrenLex> m0dY, I don't think so, no...
[08:29] <[NP] Tangent> any ideas?
[08:29] <aceracer24> alot of help ubuntu+1 was :(
[08:30] <PopeOfWar> [NP] Tangent: View above advice...
[08:30] <m0dY> so what could be a good solution!? can't think that yum pkg manager is better than apt-get
[08:30] <[NP] Tangent> well
[08:30] <[NP] Tangent> I'll reboot again
[08:30] <[NP] Tangent> probably not gonna help any more
[08:30] <[NP] Tangent> the first reboot didn't help
[08:30] <[NP] Tangent> brb
[08:30] <PopeOfWar> !enter > [NP] Tangent
[08:31] <aceracer24> anyone tell him to check to make sure his valume is up and not muted?
[08:31] <PopeOfWar> aceracer24: volume schmolume
[08:32] <ArrenLex> acer: the error he pasted from staring alsa showed something was definitely wrong.
[08:33] <ArrenLex> Oh hell. No, it didn't. xD
[08:33] <ArrenLex> Hope he comes back soon.
[08:33] <AlReece45> lol
[08:34] <AlReece45> Might also want to make sure speakers are still on and the speakers didn't do some wierd things... they do sometimes
[08:34] <muhammad> any1 know how to take screenshots during ubuntu installation my voice would go down from shoutin lol
[08:35] <[NP] Tangent> crud, still no go, Arren
[08:35] <ArrenLex> Hi, NP.  It's on everything... gAIM, XChat, etc.
[08:36] <SpaceFrog> Every textbox
[08:36] <[NP] Tangent> well
[08:36] <[NP] Tangent> no errors that time
[08:36] <[NP] Tangent> but still no sound at all
[08:37] <[NP] Tangent> XMMS shows that it's putting sound through something
[08:37] <[NP] Tangent> but no sound at all comes out the speakers
[08:37] <[NP] Tangent> not even the logon sound
[08:37] <ArrenLex> NP: pastebin the results of 'amixer'
[08:38] <[NP] Tangent> here you go, Arren
[08:38] <[NP] Tangent> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24616
[08:39] <ArrenLex> Jesus. Firefox died again.
[08:39] <ArrenLex> *finger.drum*
[08:39] <SpaceFrog> Is there a program for Linux like Windows' Image preview, with the ability to navigate through a directory of images with a left/right button?
[08:39] <webfreak> ArrenLex: running bon echo beta 2?
[08:40] <bur[n] er> SpaceFrog: uhh.. eog... it comes up when you doubleclick an image by default
[08:40] <ArrenLex> SpaceFrog, yes. Try gqview for Gnome.
[08:40] <ArrenLex> Or kuickshow or gwenview for KDE.
[08:40] <bur[n] er> what's wrong with eog?
[08:41] <hyper> stupid question: Shouldn't I have a file or something at /dev/dsp ?
[08:41] <webfreak> yeah, eog does the same thing
[08:41] <[NP] Tangent> Arren, any more ideas?
[08:41] <bur[n] er> buttons are "spacebar" and "backspace" instead of arrows
[08:41] <ArrenLex> NP, this is your problem.
[08:41] <ArrenLex> FrontLeft:Playback24[77%] [off]
[08:41] <ArrenLex> FrontRight:Playback24[77%] [off]
[08:42] <ArrenLex> Your PCM is muted, buddy.
[08:42] <[NP] Tangent> hm
[08:42] <[NP] Tangent> unusual
[08:42] <[NP] Tangent> what could have done that?
[08:42] <webfreak> when you get it fixed, run alsactl store as root
[08:42] <[NP] Tangent> I never set anything to do such a thing
[08:42] <webfreak> 'sudo alsactl store' rather
[08:43] <ArrenLex> Anyway, NP, run alsamixer. Arrowkey over to the PCM column. Press space to change MM at the bottom to 00.
[08:43] <ArrenLex> Check again.
[08:43] <[NP] Tangent> omg
[08:43] <[NP] Tangent> there we go
[08:43] <webfreak> ArrenLex: sorry, not trying to but in or anything :)
[08:43] <[NP] Tangent> found a way
[08:43] <webfreak> butt*
[08:43] <[NP] Tangent> thanks for that
[08:44] <ArrenLex> NP: what did you find? Does it work?
[08:44] <[NP] Tangent> now I can go to sleep and listen to my Namlook music :)
[08:44] <[NP] Tangent> ArrenLex, right clicked on the Volume thingamabob on the panel
[08:44] <[NP] Tangent> and randomly clicked from there
[08:44] <ArrenLex> ...oh.
[08:44] <ArrenLex> Well, sure, if you want to use, you know, a GUI.
[08:44] <[NP] Tangent> fortunately only took two menu items
[08:45] <[NP] Tangent> good night
[08:45] <ArrenLex> Night!
[08:45] <ArrenLex> Hope I could help you.
[08:45] <hastesaver> If I want some particular program to be written, where do I file a bug report? ;-)
[08:45] <ArrenLex> What program is this? xD
[08:46] <jld5445> how do i make nautilus not show my windows partions on the desktop?
[08:47] <hastesaver> ArrenLex, I thought of this when I noticed that: (1) the package perl comes with a commandline tool called cpan, which allows you to download and install new packages/modules/whatever-they-are-called from CPAN (2) TeX has no similar thing to get packages from CTAN
[08:48] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, i don't think that would be a bug ... more like a request ? btw what kind of software you looking for ?
[08:48] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, yes, it's a request. Definitely
[08:48] <hastesaver> But is there some community place where people can make requests for programs to be written? ;-)
[08:49] <Kamui> how many characters is allowed in a freenode nick?  And if someone is using my nickname, how do I "reclaim" it if Ive regged it with nickserv?
[08:49] <ArrenLex> I would request it from the TeX people. If such a people exist.
[08:49] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, why not you write one ? thats how linux started ....
[08:49] <AlReece45> What's what's the best/easiest way to get /etc/X11/X if it isn't there?
[08:50] <wickedpuppy> Kamui, pls do /msg nickserv help
[08:50] <webfreak> Kamui: /msg nickserv help ghost <- for nick recovery
[08:50] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, yes, I guess I can write one in this case, if it's simple enough. But in general, it may be hard, and there may be others who can, and who are looking for something to do... there should be a way of contacting them
[08:50] <webfreak> Kamui: not sure about the nick character limit
[08:50] <webfreak12345678> long enough :)
[08:50] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, perhaps its already been done ? may we know what kind of prog you are looking for ?
[08:51] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, that's besides the point. I'm just making a general observation that there should be ways of doing this thing.
[08:51] <AlReece45> hm... i would think that ubuntu install would install xserver-xorg...
[08:52] <ArrenLex> It does.
[08:52] <Madpilot> AlReece45, did you do a server install?
[08:52] <AlReece45> nope
[08:52] <AlReece45> I just did apt-get xserver-xorg and its there now
[08:52] <hyper> how can I create /dev/dsp ?
[08:53] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, how do i put it ? yes it can be ... but people in OSS write codes because they are itchy ... frankly i thats how i see it ...
[08:53] <ArrenLex> hyper: you don't. It's done for you when you install sound.
[08:53] <ArrenLex> It should already exist.
[08:53] <anubis> does apt-get pr0n work?
[08:53] <ArrenLex> hyper: try apt-get install alsa-oss
[08:53] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, yes, but sometimes one can be itchy, and only others can scratch the itch :)
[08:54] <Kamui> one more question which nickserv wasn't able to help me out with.  If a nickname I want to register is registered, but has only been used once on the day it was registered over 1 and a half ago, can I somehow request it?
[08:54] <ArrenLex> ...I didn't need that mental image.
[08:54] <hyper> arrenLex: well, yesterday it seemed to have existed (because vmware wasn't complaininga bout it missing) but today it's not there anymore
[08:54] <Kamui> 1 and a half years ago
[08:54] <webfreak> Kamui: if someone else already owns it, you can't just request a change of ownership
[08:54] <webfreak> Kamui: but that would be something to take up with the freenode staff.
[08:54] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, true .. if there is a demand ...
[08:55] <hyper> arrenlex: alsa-oss is already newest version
[08:55] <m0dY> ArrenLex: do i need to do something to enable the /etc/apt/preferences file to be recognized by apt-get ?
[08:55] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, exactly. What I'm asking is: how does one demand?
[08:55] <ArrenLex> m0dY: no.
[08:55] <ArrenLex> hyper: then you should be fine. Are you having PROBLEMS with it not existing?
[08:56] <m0dY> archangelpetro: then why doesn my rules don't work ?
[08:56] <hyper> ArrenLex: Yes, sound works fine... but it's missing
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Hyper: if sound works fine what's the problem?
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Don't fix it if it ain't broke.
[08:56] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, slashdot is very good place ... and here too ... you can also demand by downloading the windows counterpart program many times ... if someone sees it then surely they will do the OSS version
[08:56] <hyper> ArrenLex: Well, vmware looks for /dev/dsp and it's not there
[08:56] <wickedpuppy> or you can bug red hat ... if you know them
[08:57] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, that's very presumptuous; Windows very likely has no equivalent at all :p
[08:57] <ArrenLex> hastesaver, add it to the bugzilla of the TeX people as a wishlist.
[08:57] <m0dY> ArrenLex: that's what i typed in..
[08:57] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, then how can i put it .... it doesn't exist ?
[08:57] <m0dY> Package: apachtop \n Pin: version 0.12* \n Pin-Priority: -1
[08:57] <m0dY> ArrenLex: \n means a new line =)
[08:57] <ArrenLex> I figured.
[08:58] <m0dY> so in what am i wrong ?
[08:58] <ArrenLex> Version 0.12* doesn't look right.
[08:58] <m0dY> in the man example that's how it's called
[08:58] <m0dY> anyway, how should it be?
[08:58] <hastesaver> ArrenLex, yes, that's a good idea in this case. Thanks.
[08:58] <Kamui> awesome
[08:59] <Kamui> thanks
[08:59] <hastesaver> ArrenLex, But i was wondering... there should be a good way to do this in general, right?
[08:59] <Kamui> they let me reg it
[08:59] <ArrenLex> hastesaver: I think you need to request it as a wishlist.
[08:59] <m0dY> ArrenLex: any idea !
[08:59] <hastesaver> For instance, when I have free time, I'd gladly write simple programs, if I knew someone would want them...
[08:59] <ArrenLex> m0dY, I'm googling it.
[09:00] <m0dY> okay :)
[09:00] <ArrenLex> hastesaver: that's exactly what Linux is all about!
[09:00] <ArrenLex> YES OLD DEBIAN ROOT FTW
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Package: wine
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Pin: release v=0.9.8
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Pin-Priority: 1001
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Like that.
[09:00] <webfreak> hyper: can you pastebin the output of "lsmod | grep snd"?
[09:01] <webfreak> hyper: i'm wondering if you have snd_mixer_oss loaded
[09:01] <hastesaver> ArrenLex, yes, that's why I'm asking. Suppose that right now I have both programming knowledge and free time (;-)), but no ideas on what to program. What do I do?
[09:01] <ArrenLex> webfreak: is it not just easier to  "lsmod | grep snd_mixer_oss" which yields one line and avoids pastebin, then?
[09:01] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, you can help existing projects ?
[09:02] <webfreak> ArrenLex: yes, actually
[09:02] <ArrenLex> hasteasver: contribute to an existing project that you like!
[09:02] <chalcedony> what's the command to open a .tar.gz
[09:02] <chalcedony>  ?
[09:02] <ArrenLex> Help with bugfixes or implementing new features.
[09:02] <ArrenLex> chacedony, it's an archive. You have to "unzip" it. tar xzf <file>
[09:02] <wickedpuppy> chalcedony, tar -zxvf file.tar.gz
[09:02] <webfreak> ArrenLex: it actually spits out three, which i wasn't sure would get him kicked or not
[09:03] <m0`> hey I am wondering
[09:03] <ArrenLex> Hi moe!
[09:03] <m0`> whats a nice widget to go with ubuntu
[09:03] <m0`> Like if I want a cpu meter
[09:03] <docgnome> is there a free program to open .sit files for ubuntu?
[09:03] <ArrenLex> doc: what are .sit files?
[09:03] <m0`> or even make a magnifying rollover like macs
[09:04] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, true, there are a lot of ways I can help, but do you agree that having a "Requested functionality" source *would help* (1) users who want things done and can't write it themselves and (2) programmers looking for ideas?
[09:04] <ArrenLex> m0: for gnome, try gkrellm
[09:04] <webfreak> m0`: gkrellm is nice, imo
[09:04] <webfreak> heh..
[09:04] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, All I'm saying is that such a thing would help
[09:04] <docgnome> ArrenLex: the StuffIt file format. it's a sort of mac zip.
[09:04] <ArrenLex> hastesaver: all the major projects have wishlists.
[09:04] <m0`> thnkx guys
[09:04] <m0`> Let me see how beauty is tha, people say Macs are better
[09:04] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, i know what you can do right now ... how about a wish list ?
[09:05] <hastesaver> ArrenLex, but what if I have a wish that isn't covered by any project?
[09:05] <ArrenLex> haste: like what?
[09:05] <ArrenLex> docgnome: have you tried google or did you come here first?
[09:05] <hastesaver> ArrenLex, um, I don't know. Maybe you're right; everything is covered already.
[09:06] <ArrenLex> The people on this list (i.e. ME) aren't very specialised. Usually all we do for specialised requests is google.
[09:06] <docgnome> ArrenLex: of course i googled
[09:07] <chalcedony>   bash: zxvf: command not found
[09:07] <ArrenLex> chalcedony: "tar xzf <file>"
[09:07] <Kamui> Does the ubuntu synaptic "updates" automatically keep my entire system running the most recent versions of all installed software, eg apt-get dist-upgrade, or is it triggered in some other way
[09:07] <ArrenLex> dochgnome: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Apps/stuffit-archives.html i.e. tough. no.
[09:07] <hyper> webfreak:  http://www.phpfi.com/156549
[09:07] <ArrenLex> Kamui: you have to launch synaptic and make it update.
[09:07] <anubis> what command do i use to upgrade my distro ?
[09:08] <Kamui> arrenlex: every day or so I get an update bubble that just appears in gnome saying, there are updates avaialble
[09:08] <ArrenLex> anubis: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:08] <anubis> ty
[09:08] <ArrenLex> Kamui: you know better than I. I don't run gnome.
[09:08] <Kamui> ArrenLex: I don't actually run it manually
[09:08] <chalcedony> ArrenLex: that got it ty :)
[09:08] <m0`> gkrellm is kinda weak :x
[09:09] <m0`> How can I get the effects like rollover magnifying strip like the mac
[09:09] <Kamui> m0`: check out XGL, you'll get a lot of similar effects, including the magnifier
[09:10] <Kamui> m0`: #ubuntu-xgl
[09:10] <chalcedony> ok now it says it may be a binary file and won't cd .file.tar.gz
[09:10] <m0`> Kamui: I am running XGL
[09:10] <jindal> hullo guys, is it possible to install dapper desktop in text mode..... the default live cd installation hav issues with a amd machine, on which breezy wos a breeeze
[09:10] <ArrenLex> chalcedony: a .tar.gz file is an archive.
[09:10] <m0`> Kamui: it doesn't come with a magnifing launcher
[09:10] <ArrenLex> When you extracted it, you made a folder.
[09:10] <ArrenLex> cd into that new folder.
[09:10] <ArrenLex> jindal: yes. Download the "alternative" CD.
[09:11] <Kamui> m0`: newest version?  I set my hot key for the magnify funct to meta-super mouse2, works great, you have CSM?
[09:11] <webfreak> hyper: yeah, the oss modules are loaded. are linux-sound-base, alsa-base, and alsa-utils all installed?
[09:11] <jindal> ArrenLex, oks
[09:11] <wickedpuppy> Kamui, may i ask did you get that nick from an anime? that sounds familiar ..
[09:12] <anubis> ninkja kamui
[09:12] <chalcedony> ~$ cd filename.tar.gz
[09:12] <chalcedony> bash: cd: filename.tar.gz: Not a directory
[09:12] <chalcedony> ~$
[09:12] <hyper> webfreak: I don't know... I just installed ubuntu... everything worked fine for a few days... in vmware no problem either... then last night I changed partition sizes... everything works fine except tha vmware complains about /dev/dsp
[09:12] <m0`> Kamui: I have compiz cwgd
[09:12] <ArrenLex> wicked: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamui
[09:12] <Kamui> wickedpuppy: yea, from X-1999
[09:12] <webfreak> hyper: ahh.
[09:12] <ArrenLex> chalcedony, I told you, you can't cd into that file. That's an archive.
[09:12] <jocke1s> Hi all. I have a rockboxed ipod video 30Gb. When I plug it in nothing happens. I can't see it at all and I have no idea how to mount it. Any ideas?
[09:12] <wickedpuppy> Kamui, no kid ... shadow skill also has kamui
[09:12] <hyper> webfreak: yes, those are installed
[09:12] <ArrenLex> When you extracted the archive, it made a new folder from what was archived in that file.
[09:12] <Kamui> m0`: what happens when you type csm at the console?  That should give you the new configuration tool
[09:12] <webfreak> hyper: i never screw around with changing existing partition sizes.
[09:12] <ArrenLex> Go to that folder.
[09:13] <chalcedony> ArrenLex: ok sorry .. can you tell me the command?
[09:13] <wickedpuppy> chalcedony, pls do ls ...
[09:13] <subpar> is there a way I can see what's using my sound device?
[09:13] <ArrenLex> No. It depends what the folder in that file is.
[09:13] <chalcedony> ls ?
[09:13] <Kamui> wickedpuppy: well, its a common anime name, it means the hand that controls the power of god
[09:13] <wickedpuppy> i think you will see the dir
[09:13] <wickedpuppy> chalcedony, yup ... ls
[09:13] <wickedpuppy> Kamui, thanks for the explaination ..
[09:14] <Kamui> lolx
[09:14] <Kamui> :)
[09:14] <hyper> webfreak: I also did that just after I installed ubuntu and after vmware... when I saw that the installer created one big partition
[09:14] <hyper> webfreak: I then created a seperate one for /home
[09:14] <anubis> im checking my japanese/english dictionary and it says it mean blue shoe
[09:14] <chalcedony> ~$ ls fil*
[09:14] <chalcedony> filename.tar.gz
[09:14] <chalcedony> ~$
[09:14] <ArrenLex> ...your archive is actually called filename.tar.gz?
[09:14] <Kamui> m0`: that work for you?  you might get better help from teh experts in #ubuntu-xgl, especially DBO
[09:15] <chalcedony> ArrenLex: no it's more complicated
[09:15] <webfreak> hyper: as a last resort, you can create the device node manually if you wish. try this: sudo mknod /dev/dsp c 14 3 && sudo chown root:audio /dev/dsp && sudo chmod 660 /dev/dsp
[09:15] <ArrenLex> chalcedony, are you new to Linux?
[09:15] <Kamui> didn't see that coming
[09:15] <wickedpuppy> chalcedony, no no ... just ls ..
[09:15] <webfreak> hyper: i can't say what happened if you resized partitions. i don't trust the risk of data loss.
[09:15] <Kamui> didn't see you in here actually
[09:15] <chalcedony> ArrenLex:  i'm a mother with years of experieance .. just  also have some bad learning disabilites that i hate sometimes.
[09:16] <ArrenLex> chalcedony: computers and Linux are not the same thing. Have you used LINUX before?
[09:16] <hyper> webfreak: I resized partitons a couple of times on windows...that was never a problem
[09:16] <subpar> is there a way I can see what's using my sound device? amarok won't play because it says the device is busy...
[09:16] <hyper> anyway, I'm just reconfiguring vmware
[09:16] <hyper> maybe that help
[09:16] <hyper> if not I try the make that nod again
[09:17] <ArrenLex> Hey, Kamui. How do you register your nick?
[09:17] <hastesaver> chalcedony, First, what is in the .tar.gz ? Why are you trying to open it? (Because if it's to install somethign, there is a better way)
[09:17] <chalcedony> ArrenLex: dear the filename is myfile09-23-06.tar.gz and i haven't messed with tar files in years.
[09:17] <webfreak> hyper: alright. good luck :)
[09:17] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell ArrenLex about register
[09:17] <webfreak> i'm off to bed. night folks.
[09:17] <chalcedony> hastesaver: i downloaded it and thought it would be easy .. obviously i forgot a few things.
[09:18] <seshomaru> hi ,where is the resources list located?
[09:18] <hyper> webfreak: thx for the help... I'll let you know how I go :)
[09:18] <wickedpuppy> chalcedony, you can right click and extract from the nautilus .... oh well
[09:18] <ArrenLex> chalcedony: run tar -t myfile09-23-06.tar.gz, which will show you everything that's in the archive.
[09:18] <chalcedony> hastesaver: the original is in xchat2  downloads
[09:18] <ArrenLex> chalcedony: when you extract the archive, all this stuff in the archive will get copied to the current folder. That's where you'll find it.
[09:18] <writingdesk> has anyone tried doing a dapper update and then downloading something using bittorrent, because it locked up the system (no response at all) here, I was wanting to know if anyone else could replicate the behavior
[09:19] <wickedpuppy> writingdesk, what bittorrent program would that be ?
[09:19] <tomcatt> !mouse
[09:19] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[09:19] <muhammad> any1 know how to take screenshots during ubuntu installation my voice would go down from repeatin lol
[09:20] <treedreamer> hi,everyone
[09:20] <writingdesk> wickedpuppy: current bittorrent (the bittorrent application) I'm sorry this is for amd64
[09:20] <chalcedony> ok great tar -t .. it seems to be doing *something* :)
[09:20] <wickedpuppy> writingdesk, oh hmms ... i am using intel ... nope never happen before
[09:21] <ArrenLex> chalcedony: actually, no, it won't do anything, sorry about that xD that was my mistake.
[09:21] <treedreamer> sometimes i get these warnings:Gtk-WARNING; locale not support by C library
[09:21] <ArrenLex> Whoever said it before was right, a GUI might be easier. Are you running Gnome?
[09:21] <treedreamer> I searched the Web and found no answers
[09:21] <hastesaver> treedreamer, ignore them. they are harmless :-)
[09:21] <treedreamer> hastesaver,really >
[09:21] <wickedpuppy> mostly harmless ... pardon the pun ...
[09:22] <writingdesk> the strange thing is I reinstalled, and haven't booted into the new kernel yet (2.6.15 vs 2.6.17) and have chosen not to update firefox, and bittorrent is working fine.  So soon I guess I will find out if somethings gone wrong with 2.6.17
[09:22] <treedreamer> oh ,thanks
[09:22] <chalcedony> ArrenLex: oh should i control C and stop that ?
[09:22] <ZeRo> Hi
[09:22] <wickedpuppy> wha
[09:22] <jasondotgnu> howto install xorg 7.1 under edgy?
[09:22] <wickedpuppy> tar -t is still running ?
[09:22] <ArrenLex> chal: yes, ctrl+c and stop that.
[09:22] <ZeRo> My apt is screwed up...
[09:22] <subpar> is there a way I can see what's using my sound device? amarok (and xmms) won't play because it says the device is busy...
[09:22] <chalcedony> ok
[09:22] <ArrenLex> chal: are you running Gnome?
[09:23] <ZeRo> Anyone care to attempt to help me?
[09:23] <chalcedony> ArrenLex: yes
[09:23] <ArrenLex> chal: you know what Nautilus is?
[09:23] <wickedpuppy> !sound
[09:23] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:23] <treedreamer> ZeRo,just ask
[09:23] <chalcedony> and please no gui commands
[09:23] <ZeRo> ok
[09:23] <jasondotgnu> !xorg
[09:23] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:23] <subpar> aha thank you :)
[09:23] <zoidberg> guys ....do you know how to use XDCC ?
[09:24] <wickedpuppy> gui has no commands chalcedony  ... don't worry :P
[09:24] <jasondotgnu> !xorg7.1
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorg7.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <ZeRo> Well, when I ran update manager, it stopped at the download part and when I cancelled it, it said "W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-image-2.6.15-27-386_2.6.15-27.48_i386.deb
[09:24] <ZeRo>
[09:24] <ZeRo> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386_<IP_ADDRESS>-5_i386.deb" then whenever I try a manual "apt-get install <package-name>" it will stop after it says "Connection to <ipaddress"
[09:24] <zoidberg> i searched a packet connected and typed in the command but the transfer is not starting
[09:24] <ClayG> anyone here know of a good program to track financials ? something like ms money would be great
[09:24] <ZeRo> my sources.list is default
[09:24] <zoidberg> i searched a packet connected and typed in the command but the transfer is not starting
[09:24] <zoidberg> guys ....do you know how to use XDCC ?
[09:24] <ClayG> Or anything that can keep track of checking, savings , money market and CDs.....I have found some semi decent programs but nothing that can deal with interest bearing accounts
[09:25] <treedreamer> ZeRo,have you checked your network settings?
[09:25] <ZeRo> What would be wrong?
[09:25] <ZeRo> Im on wireless network...
[09:25] <hyper> webfreak?
[09:25] <chalcedony> wickedpuppy: i use console for nearly everything
[09:25] <webfreak> yes?
[09:25] <main2> anyone successfully compiled vlc 0.8.5+ on dapper here? :)
[09:25] <fdoving> zero, update the list of packages in synaptic, or run 'sudo apt-get update' from the commandline.
[09:26] <ZeRo> ok
[09:26] <fdoving> zero, then try again.
[09:26] <ArrenLex> chal: where did you say that file can be downloaded, again?
[09:26] <ZeRo> it freezes at the connecting part when I update to
[09:26] <hastesaver> ClayG, KDE has something caled kmymoney2 ...
[09:26] <jocke1s> How can I mount a USB disk (ipod with rockbox). dmesg gives usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[09:26] <hyper> webfreak: I love ya ^^ nah, kidding... making the nod and restarting ubuntu helped :)
[09:26] <ClayG> can it deal with interest bearing accounts?
[09:26] <webfreak> hyper: woot, cool
[09:26] <ZeRo> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/linux-image-2.6.15-27-386_2.6.15-27.48_i386.deb
[09:26] <ZeRo>
[09:26] <ZeRo> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386_<IP_ADDRESS>-5_i386.deb
[09:26] <ClayG> and thanks for the tip btw
[09:26] <ZeRo> oops
[09:26] <ZeRo> 0% [Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  [Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> (201.0.
[09:26] <ZeRo> thats where it stops
[09:26] <hyper> webfreak: so, what did I actually do with that mknod?
[09:27] <hastesaver> ClayG, oh, and there's gnucash
[09:27] <hastesaver> One of KMyMoney and GNUCash should work for you, hopefully :)
[09:27] <webfreak> hyper: mknod lets you create character devices or block devices in /dev if you know the parameters
[09:27] <ClayG> isn't gnucash primitive?
[09:27] <boink> dunno, try it first
[09:27] <wickedpuppy> chalcedony, console is great but may i suggest you get familiar with linux first ?
[09:27] <webfreak> hyper: "man mknod" for more info
[09:27] <main2> anyone successfully compiled vlc 0.8.5+ on dapper here? :)
[09:28] <webfreak> hyper: there's probably some HOWTO's on the 'net that explain unix device nodes as well :)
[09:28] <hyper> webfreak: I guess I'll look at that some other time... I'm proud that I know the differnece between a sym- and hardlink ^^ --> linux noob
[09:28] <hastesaver> ClayG, I don't know, never used *any* money-managing app (mainly because I have no money ;-))
[09:28] <webfreak> hyper: hehe
[09:28] <ClayG> well, worse comes to worse i have a windows box in the house
[09:28] <ZeRo> Its still freezing at connection
[09:29] <Madpilot> ClayG, supposedly GnuCash has gotten much better - but I'm in hastesaver's state WRT money management, I'll admit :)
[09:29] <ziro01> hey
[09:29] <ClayG> heh
[09:29] <treedreamer> ZeRo,what is the rate of your connection?
[09:29] <ziro01> fun
[09:30] <ZeRo> rate?
[09:30] <ZeRo> Speed?
[09:30] <webfreak> i'm really off to bed this time. night ;)
[09:30] <treedreamer> sorry for my poor English :)
[09:31] <treedreamer> ZeRo,yes  i mean speed
[09:32] <chalcedony> ArrenLex chal: where did you say that file can be downloaded, again?   <-- ArrenLex it was sent to me, it's still in my xchat downolads
[09:32] <ZeRo> 54mbps
[09:32] <chalcedony> i *copied* it to my home directory
[09:33] <SpaceFrog> How do i see my framerate on glxgears?
[09:33] <iLLf8d> hey all I just noticed that ubuntu isn't sourcing .bash_profile?? whats up with that?
[09:34] <ZeRo> :(
[09:34] <treedreamer> ZeRo, maybe you can turn to google, i am newbie to ubuntu
[09:34] <ZeRo> I dont know why I cant use the sources
[09:34] <hastesaver> ClayG, Here's a list: KMyMoney, gnucash, Grisbi, jGnash, gnofin. Try all of them (probably in that order ;-), and see if any of them is good enough for you.
[09:34] <m0dY> ArrenLex: still no idea about my pinning prob. :(
[09:34] <ZeRo> Ive turned to google
[09:34] <wickedpuppy> iLLf8d, tried bash.rc ?
[09:34] <ZeRo> ubuntu forums
[09:34] <ZeRo> everything
[09:34] <hyper> webfreak: what desktop do you use?
[09:34] <ClayG> awsome , ill try that now
[09:34] <treedreamer> ZeRo, good luck
[09:34] <ZeRo> Thanks o.O
[09:34] <iLLf8d> no not yet did they stop using profile?
[09:34] <treedreamer> You are welcome ~~
[09:35] <wickedpuppy> iLLf8d, if i am not wrong ... rh based distros and debian based distros see different files
[09:35] <ZeRo> anyone else care to help?
[09:35] <hastesaver> SpaceFrog, "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthisisnotabenchmark"
[09:35] <hyper> oh, he's gone :(
[09:35] <iLLf8d> wieckedpuppy yeah debian based distros use .bash_profile
[09:35] <iLLf8d> wickedpuppy, but apparently not ubutnu
[09:36] <hastesaver> iLLf8d, in the worst case you can always put "souce ~/.bash_profile" in .bashrc or whatever *is* being sourced
[09:36] <wickedpuppy> iLLf8d, i suppose you can file it as a bug ? for me as long as it read one ... fine with me
[09:36] <hastesaver> SpaceFrog, did it work?
[09:36] <iLLf8d> hastesaver, yeah its just wierd
[09:37] <iLLf8d> wickedpuppy, yeah its just wierd
[09:37] <SpaceFrog> hastesaver: very funny
[09:37] <shinobi2> anyone using vim 7.0?
[09:37] <SpaceFrog> i just wanted to know what fps i was getting, thats all.
[09:38] <wickedpuppy> SpaceFrog, you havn't tried it ... have you ?
[09:38] <hastesaver> SpaceFrog, no, I was serious. That *is* the right option. The glxgears people added it becuase...
[09:38] <SpaceFrog> maybe i typed it wrong, because i got an unknown parameter
[09:38] <ClayG> wow
[09:38] <wickedpuppy> SpaceFrog, copy and paste
[09:38] <ClayG> gnucash looks like it is what i need
[09:38] <ClayG> thanks for the tip hastesaver
[09:39] <hastesaver> ClayG, great, thanks. Might help me someday... :)
[09:39] <ClayG> here is a reward, you like OC?     .................   o[09:39] <writingdesk> mp3 audio not work out of the box?
[09:39] <hastesaver> !mp3 > writingdesk
[09:39] <ClayG> or maybe you would like a highpower hosting account as a thank you?
[09:39] <writingdesk> !mp3 ?
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <SpaceFrog> Warrning: unknown parameter: -iacknowledgethatthisisnotabenchmark <--- Yes, it also has a typo in Warning
[09:40] <wickedpuppy> writingdesk, nope
[09:40] <writingdesk> !mp3
[09:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:40] <writingdesk> gotcha
[09:40] <hastesaver> SpaceFrog, oh, try "glxgears -printfps" then. Much boring, in comparison...
[09:40] <SpaceFrog> they must have taken that feature out, eh?
[09:41] <SpaceFrog> 567fps.. Not bad considering I cannot get drivers working properly for ATI
[09:42] <wickedpuppy> 567 ? thats pretty low ..
[09:42] <SpaceFrog> Yeah, I have been trying to get my ATI card to work properly since yesterday
[09:42] <SpaceFrog> i'm just running off generic drivers atm
[09:42] <hastesaver> SpaceFrog, no, I made a mistake :( The right option is "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark" I left out "tool"
[09:43] <wickedpuppy> SpaceFrog, pls complain to ATI
[09:43] <wickedpuppy> that will tell them that people use linux on desktop
[09:43] <SpaceFrog> Yeah, i should.
[09:43] <SpaceFrog> They've lost me as a customer, that's for sure
[09:44] <hastesaver> wickedpuppy, which are the "good" graphics cards, BTW?
[09:44] <SpaceFrog> nVidia, all the way
[09:44] <linux__alien> has anyone here installed KDE in Ubuntu and do you face any problems?
[09:44] <SpaceFrog> i've never had any problems with nVidia drivers in linux
[09:44] <myesterious> hey, The linux swap partition that make after installed ubuntu is difference with swap partition that make on installing ?
[09:45] <thenetduck> can somone help me 3d accelerate my ATI 9600 Graphic card???
[09:46] <Madpilot> !ati
[09:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:46] <hastesaver> NVidia also only gives binary drivers
[09:46] <Madpilot> thenetduck, see the URL above ^^^ I've got a 9600XT, it runs nicely
[09:46] <hastesaver> They just happen to work better, but that doesn't mean...
[09:46] <wickedpuppy> hastesaver, nvidia
[09:46] <botxj> are the compiz repositories up yet?
[09:46] <linux__alien> is it advisable to install KDE in Ubuntu or should i go in for Kubuntu?
[09:46] <SpaceFrog> thenetduck: We're in the same situation
[09:47] <thenetduck> Madpilot thanks
[09:47] <hastesaver> linux__alien, there's no problem install KDE in Ubuntu.  They shouldn't give it such a fancy name (sounds scarry)
[09:50] <botxj> FGLRX, the future of linux gpu drivers is here!
[09:51] <thenetduck> huraa
[09:51] <botxj> what are they supposed to call it? in windows the radeon drivers are called catalyst
[09:51] <we2by> what's the tool called to monitor wireless networks and packet sniffing?
[09:52] <thenetduck> ya but the wiki should have somthing with the name so it doesn't send me searching for somthing that I all ready have
[09:52] <boink> there are many. etherreal, if that's what you mean
[09:52] <SpaceFrog> netstumbler?
[09:52] <boink> !etherreal
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about etherreal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <boink> !ethereal
[09:52] <ubotu> ethereal: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.0-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 564 kB, installed size 1500 kB
[09:52] <we2by> does etherreal support wireless?
[09:52] <Madpilot> we2by, yes
[09:52] <wickedpuppy> we2by, it sniffs packets from the interface you want ...
[09:53] <benjaminwr> when is edgy goint to be final?
[09:53] <boink> !schedule
[09:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[09:53] <we2by> even if my wireless card is not connected?
[09:53] <boink> ideally, your computer should be switched on for it to work
[09:53] <benjaminwr> tnx
[09:54] <wickedpuppy> we2by, if wireless card is not connected ...  how can it sniff anything ? or i didn't understand your question ?
[09:54] <benjaminwr> does web2by sniff packets to get wep information?
[09:55] <benjaminwr> we2by
[09:55] <boink> !airsnort
[09:55] <ubotu> airsnort: WLAN sniffer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7e-1.1 (dapper), package size 49 kB, installed size 180 kB
[09:55] <we2by> yea
[09:55] <benjaminwr> even with an acx111?
[09:55] <benjaminwr> or do i need prism?
[09:56] <benjaminwr> ive never used any app for that or my wireless card to sniff wep keys
[09:56] <anubis> i just ran  apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:56] <anubis> , do i need to reboot or something?
[09:57] <benjaminwr> nope, not unless you updated the kernel
[09:57] <benjaminwr> but even so it is not necesary
[09:57] <AbortD> how do i run perl scripts in ubuntu?
[09:57] <benjaminwr> me not know, me be way too new...
[09:57] <botxj> sudo apt-get install wife-and-sex
[09:58] <Shish> "perl blah.pl", or "./blah.pl" if it's set executable; same as any other scripts on any other distro...
[09:58] <AbortD> well
[09:58] <benjaminwr> me know now aswell :D
[09:58] <AbortD> i figured it would be the same on every distro
[09:58] <AbortD> but i still didnt know it
[10:00] <benjaminwr> has anyone got network-manager to select appropriate settings before login? it stores the wep key in the keyring and it cannot access it untill i log in and type the password for my keyring... it is dumb
[10:02] <kamui> can someone tell me what beryl is?
[10:02] <kamui> !beryl
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <benjaminwr> beryl is the new name for compiz
[10:02] <kamui> oh
[10:02] <benjaminwr> they decided to compleetly separate from the actual compiz project
[10:02] <benjaminwr> it is a new project bu quinnstorm
[10:02] <kamui> is there a website I can check out that talks about whats new/different?
[10:03] <kamui> google gives jack sofar
[10:03] <jocke1s> how can I do a file check or something similar on a not recognized usb disk (wont show when doing sudo fdisk -l)
[10:03] <benjaminwr> http://www.compiz.net/topic-4591-beryl-informations-announcement
[10:03] <tamacracker> hey guys?
[10:03] <benjaminwr> this is what there is so far
[10:03] <benjaminwr> it is the anouncement on compiz.net
[10:03] <botxj> are the compiz repositories up yet?
[10:03] <benjaminwr> nope
[10:03] <tamacracker> what's the code I type into the terminal to install photoshop 7.0 with WIne?
[10:03] <benjaminwr> not until they have a stable beryl release
[10:03] <SpaceFrog> woohoo! Planescape: Torment on wine
[10:04] <DiODO> tamacracker,  wine setup.exe ?
[10:04] <tamacracker> >.> ill try that
[10:04] <kamui> tamacracker: if you're using completely opensource wine, good luck, ps7 is very incompatible.
[10:04] <benjaminwr> has anyone got wine working decently with games?
[10:04] <anubis> how do i install XFCE
[10:04] <benjaminwr> i have a good pc
[10:04] <tamacracker> open source?...
[10:04] <SpaceFrog> benjaminwr: I'm playing a game right now
[10:04] <tamacracker> the free version?..
[10:04] <benjaminwr> but is it actually worth it?
[10:04] <kamui> tamacracker: works with crossover office 5, and I've read moderately compatible with wine using the native windows dlls
[10:05] <benjaminwr> guild wars?
[10:05] <benjaminwr> could that work?
[10:05] <tamacracker> I'm not gonna pay monthly for something for the rest of my life...
[10:05] <kamui> tamacracker: but wine with free opensource windows libraries won't run ps7 at al
[10:05] <SpaceFrog> I hear that World of Warcraft runs well in Wine.
[10:05] <tamacracker> ah screw it then... ill use windows for photoshop i guess
[10:05] <benjaminwr> guild wars you onyl pay once
[10:05] <SpaceFrog> Planescape: Torment is running beautifully right now
[10:05] <anubis> GW FTW
[10:05] <unfknblvbl> GW == nerfWars
[10:06] <SpaceFrog> nerd wars, more like
[10:06] <anubis> but can anyone tell me how to install XFCE as my desktop enviroment
[10:06] <kamui> tamacracker: try it, it could work
[10:06] <kamui> tahts just waht I've read
[10:06] <crimsun> anubis: install 'xfce4' if you want the basic environment, else install 'xubuntu-desktop'
[10:06] <anubis> crimsun whats your recomendation?
[10:06] <benjaminwr> well gotta go an have breakfast...
[10:06] <benjaminwr> cya in a bit
[10:07] <botxj> heh, breakfast, it's 4AM here
[10:07] <SpaceFrog> i gotta have dinner
[10:07] <SpaceFrog> hehe
[10:07] <crimsun> err, mmkay
[10:07] <SpaceFrog> ttyl guys
[10:07] <muhammad> any1 know how to take screenshots during ubuntu installation my voice would go down from repeatin lol
[10:08] <crimsun> muhammad: in the graphical environment? It's in Applications> Accessories
[10:08] <SpaceFrog> Can;t you take screenshots (accessories) and save them externally?
[10:08] <SpaceFrog> my thoughts exactly
 nop i mean durin the installation process
[10:09] <Yawner> digital camera is what I use..
[10:09] <muhammad> hmmm
[10:09] <muhammad> so and who dont have digital camera lol
[10:09] <crimsun> are you using the text or the gui installer?
[10:09] <Yawner> lol.. sorry
[10:10] <muhammad> in othe distro like fedora shift+print creat a directory after login u can access the pic u took
[10:10] <muhammad> crimsun> nop the oem mode installation
[10:10] <crimsun> muhammad: ah, no. Get a camera :-)
[10:10] <muhammad> lol
[10:11] <muhammad> ok will discuss that with my father :D
[10:11] <botxj> i have no father
[10:12] <botxj> yet, noone cares
[10:12] <xaxxon> I"m tryign to boot off CD and all I'm getting, eery 30 seconds, is "ataX: failed to set xfermode, disabled"..
[10:12] <xaxxon> ata1..2..3..4..5
[10:12] <xaxxon> ahh, finally
[10:13] <xaxxon> 7 minutes later
[10:13] <xmastree> so, this is IRC, eh?
[10:13] <xaxxon> nope
[10:13] <xaxxon> it's MSN Messenger
[10:13] <xmastree> :-p
[10:14] <we2by> how do I know what driver Ubuntu is using for myw ireless card?
[10:15] <muhammad> !wireless
[10:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:17] <NYCT_4_EVER> hello tous
[10:17] <larryone> ???
[10:17] <thenetduck> has anyone here tested looking glass?
[10:17] <larryone> yup
[10:18] <larryone> you mena the desktop?
[10:18] <thenetduck> larryone what did you think of it?
[10:18] <larryone> that sun microsystems did?
[10:18] <thenetduck> ya
[10:18] <JDStone> yeah, it was crap last time I tested it
[10:18] <larryone> it's ok
[10:18] <JDStone> didn't work on any of my computers
[10:18] <thenetduck> larryone was it laggy?
[10:18] <larryone> nothing special
[10:18] <JDStone> nothing XGL can't do
[10:18] <thenetduck> JDStone, have you used looking glass?
[10:18] <JDStone> yes, but it has been a while
[10:18] <larryone> it looked cool the first time I saw/used it - but that was 3 years ago, and XGL has since arrived
[10:19] <JDStone> I agree with larryone
[10:19] <thenetduck> is it pretty stable/
[10:19] <larryone> it wasnt too laggy on a P4 with 512MB RAM
[10:19] <larryone> stable enough
[10:19] <thenetduck> you think an ati 9600 could run it?
[10:19] <JDStone> again, I agree with larryone one both comments
[10:19] <larryone> it does have some nice features
[10:20] <JDStone> yeah, doesn't work well with ATI I don't think
[10:20] <thenetduck> larryone what was nice about it
[10:20] <larryone> the way you could flip a window over and use sticky notes on it
[10:20] <thenetduck> for instance, what was better/worse and different from xgl to looking glass
[10:21] <larryone> I liked the way you could stack windows off to the side
[10:21] <larryone> XGL was just smoother
[10:21] <larryone> is just smoother*
[10:22] <larryone> JDStone, wasnt there some diffictuly with XGL and ATI also?
[10:22] <thenetduck_> oops
[10:23] <thenetduck> do you know what the difference between aiglx and xgl is?
[10:23] <larryone> nope
[10:23] <larryone> you might ask that in #xgl
[10:23] <thenetduck> :)
[10:25] <Rico> aiglx is a better way of doing things, but you need beta nvidia drivers to do it (assuming you're using nvidia)
[10:25] <JDStone> larryone: good point
[10:25] <JDStone> isn't there always trouble with getting 3D working with ATI cards in linux?
[10:26] <larryone> yea...
[10:26] <larryone> NVidia ftw
[10:26] <Rico> yes, but aiglx especially doesn't work with their official drivers. at all
[10:26] <muhammad> any1 know how to take screenshots during ubuntu installation?
[10:26] <larryone> NVidia and OpenGL go nice together. Very good reason for that =0)
[10:26] <Rico> muhammad: print screen should work
[10:27] <muhammad> Rico r u sure ?
[10:27] <Rico> muhammad: it runs gnome-screenshot. if not you could always run it from a terminal with a delay
[10:27] <JDStone> I don't think print screen will work unless you have an application to paste it into
[10:28] <JDStone> and then print from
[10:28] <Rico> JDStone: gnome-screenshot allows you to save the picture to disk. try it.,
[10:28] <muhammad> i mean in other distro there is a syskey like shift+print creat a directory after login u can access the pic u took
[10:28] <kamui> any advice on trying to troubleshoot suspending laptop crashing?  Hibernation works flawlessly, but when I try to suspend the screen blacks out and never comes back, and Im not sure where to start
[10:28] <muhammad> durin the installation process
[10:29] <anubis> i wanna instal the xubuntu desktop how do i do that?
[10:29] <Rico> muhammad: i guess you could put the pics on the internet, or on a usb drive, or other drive
[10:29] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:29] <gnomefreak> anubis: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:29] <thenetduck> sudo aptitude xubuntu
[10:29] <thenetduck> aptitude is better :)
[10:29] <thenetduck> doh
[10:29] <thenetduck> i mean
[10:29] <deFrysk> and set gdm to xfce to log in
[10:29] <thenetduck> aptitude install xubuntu
[10:29] <muhammad> Rico> thats not the probe the problem how can i take the snapshots
[10:29] <lastnode> thenetduck, the package is xubuntu-desktop
[10:30] <Rico> muhammad: i just said, press Print Screen.
[10:30] <muhammad> Rico> while am installin in oem mode
[10:30] <muhammad> ok
[10:30] <thenetduck> lastnode, I always hate it installing all of the extras
[10:30] <lastnode> :-)
[10:30] <thenetduck> :p
[10:30] <deFrysk> thenetduck, you only have to do it once
[10:30] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: than the last command you want to use is aptitude
[10:30] <araxor> Hello!
 the after took the pic where i can acess them ?
[10:31] <linux__alien> i ve installed flash-plugin but still i am unable to get flash working in Firefox . Could some one help  me please?
 i mean where the directory to be saved ?
[10:31] <anubis> ok just that
[10:31] <thenetduck> gnomefreak with aptitude doesn't it do a better remove command?
[10:31] <anubis> is that all i need to do?
[10:31] <gnomefreak> linux__alien: restart firefox than in the address bar type about:plugins see if its listed
[10:31] <Rico> muhammad: you should get a box pop up with a save dialog so you can choose where to save it ...?
[10:31] <we2by> any gtk wireless networks monitoring tool?
[10:31] <J-_> can't believe i got my creative ZEN vision:m workin with linux =D took 9 hours of fooling around with it, searching, and finding a guide to make the player to work with ubuntu. all worth it nonetheless
[10:31] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: yes but it installs suggested and recommended packages
 aha got ya
[10:32] <linux__alien> gnomefreak, no
[10:32] <thenetduck> gnomefreak didn't know whawt
 btw thx and i'll try
[10:32] <linux__alien> but i ve installed it even apt shows that i ve installed it
[10:32] <gnomefreak> linux__alien: no what?
[10:33] <linux__alien> its not installed thats what firefox says
[10:33] <linux__alien> File name: libnullplugin.so
[10:33] <weex> any recommendation between using the java runtime executable in kaffe or using sun's?
[10:33] <gnomefreak> ah linux__alien did you accept the licence agreement?
[10:33] <weex> i want to play go on yahoo games
[10:33] <gnomefreak> weex: suns its in the repos
[10:34] <dark_light> There are any tutorial on configuring ADSL with a router?
[10:34] <anubis> ok guys it says it cant find the package
[10:34] <gnomefreak> anubis: did you enable universe repo
[10:34] <anubis> i did
[10:34] <linux__alien> gnomefreak, yes
[10:34] <gnomefreak> !info xubuntu-desktop
[10:34] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: Xubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.32 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 36 kB
[10:34] <gnomefreak> damn
[10:34] <ubuntu> hi
[10:34] <linux__alien> its installed
[10:34] <gnomefreak> anubis: make sure you are not using the cdrom repos
[10:34] <linux__alien> but not working
[10:34] <tomcatt> !compiz
[10:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:34] <gnomefreak> linux__alien: reinstall it
[10:35] <ubuntu> is it possible to reinstall grub with the ubuntu live cd
[10:35] <anubis> gnomefreak: how do i know that
[10:35] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: yes
[10:35] <gnomefreak> !grub > ubuntu
[10:35] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: please read your pm
[10:35] <thenetduck> so what would you guys say is my best option with a ATI 9600 256 Graphcis cardd XGL, AIGLX or Open Glass ?
[10:35] <gnomefreak> !repos > anubis
[10:35] <gnomefreak> anubis: your pm has instructions
[10:36] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: i would wait on any of them
[10:36] <cagdas> hi all
[10:36] <anubis> gnomefreak: btw i am not running dapper
[10:36] <cagdas> I have a question related with apt-get install
[10:36] <ubuntu> lol how can i read my pm with irssi
[10:36] <gnomefreak> anubis: you are running?
[10:36] <anubis> hoary
[10:36] <thenetduck> gnomefreak you mean not install any of them?
[10:36] <aLPHa_LeaK> ow
[10:36] <anubis> i just intalled it from a cd i had liying around
[10:36] <gnomefreak> anubis: you dont have it
[10:37] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: correct for now
[10:37] <ubuntu> how can i read my pm in irssi
[10:37] <anubis> gnomefreak: how do i upgrade
[10:37] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: there are alot of changes going on right now
[10:37] <anubis> gnomefreak: to dapper i mean
[10:37] <thenetduck> gnomefreak when do you think I would be able to install them stabley?
[10:37] <deFrysk> !upgrade
[10:37] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[10:37] <thenetduck> or is that hard to say : gnomefreak
[10:37] <cagdas> I wanted to install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin but I've wrongly typed totem-xine-fire... package which wanted to remove totem-gstreamer package which I've canceled by "no"
[10:37] <ubuntu> !grub
[10:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:37] <gnomefreak> anubis: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and chnge the word hoary to breezy
[10:37] <aLPHa_LeaK> anubis: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade && sudo aptitude upgrade
[10:38] <cagdas> but after that I can't install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin which says the dependency broken
[10:38] <thenetduck> does anyone know if edgy is going to have the Ubuntu System Panel installed by default ??
[10:38] <cagdas> that is the totem-gstreamer package is not installed
[10:38] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: compiz/zgl have alot of changes going on right now changing them to beryl so the repos are down
[10:38] <gnomefreak> aLPHa_LeaK: you dont need upgrade if you run dist-upgrade
[10:38] <cagdas> are that happens because of my previous wrong command ?
[10:39] <gnomefreak> cagdas: on ubuntu totem is installed by default
[10:39] <aLPHa_LeaK> gnomefreak: oh
[10:39] <cagdas> gnomefreak: yes, I know, but I wanted to install the firefox-plugin
[10:40] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: maybe it hasnt been added yet and its getting to that time where you cant add anything
[10:40] <thenetduck> gnomefreak what is beryl ?
[10:40] <linux__alien> gnomefreak, when i give this command i get this error
[10:40] <linux__alien> sudo update-flashplugin
[10:40] <linux__alien> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[10:40] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: join #ubuntu-xgl
[10:40] <cagdas> gnomefreak: and I don't think it is installed by default
[10:40] <ubuntu_> .
[10:40] <thenetduck> ok
[10:40] <gnomefreak> cagdas: the plugin is not
[10:41] <anubis> genomefreak: im gonna change hoary with brezzy to run dist-update?
[10:41] <gnomefreak> cagdas: totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[10:41] <cagdas> gnomefreak: and I wanted to install it but I wrongly chosen the totem-xine-.... which conflicts with gstreamer ofcourse
[10:41] <gnomefreak> anubis: run sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:42] <dsterry_> can't seem to find the 1.5.0 in there, any tips on what to look for?
[10:42] <gnomefreak> cagdas: than install totem-gstreamer
[10:42] <cagdas> but I canceled the process when the apt-get asked me do you want to continue
[10:42] <anubis> gnomefreak: i already did
[10:42] <gnomefreak> dsterry_: for what?
[10:42] <cagdas> gnomefreak: I have it already installed
[10:42] <dsterry_> whoops...my nick changed. the JRE
[10:42] <cagdas> gnomefreak: I didn't remove it
[10:42] <gnomefreak> anubis: already did what?
[10:42] <gnomefreak> cagdas: than remove it
[10:42] <anubis> yeah
[10:42] <cagdas> gnomefreak: but it looks like as if I have removed it
[10:42] <gnomefreak> anubis: what does uname -r say
[10:42] <anubis> gnomefreak: a while ago
[10:43] <dsterry_> gnomefreak: i'm trying to get the JRE for firefox and have the .bin from sun's website but prefer synaptic
[10:43] <cagdas> no, it's not a good idea because ubuntu-desktop requires it
[10:43] <anubis> gnomefreak: 2.6.10-6-386
[10:43] <gnomefreak> dsterry_: just install it from repos
[10:43] <gnomefreak> anubis: now do it again but change the breezy to dapper
[10:44] <gnomefreak> wait a min
[10:44] <anubis> gnomefreak: ohh i think i understand now ty
[10:44] <gnomefreak> thats hoary kernel
[10:44] <anubis> gnomefreak: what does that mean
[10:44] <gnomefreak> anubis: what does lsb_release -a say
[10:45] <linux__alien> gnomefreak, any idea what the problem might be ? i am unable to get flash working :-(
[10:45] <gnomefreak> linux__alien: reinstall it
[10:45] <linux__alien> i ve done it
[10:45] <linux__alien> it does not work
[10:45] <gnomefreak> linux__alien: on dapper right?
[10:45] <anubis> gnomefreak: its says its hoary 5.04
[10:45] <linux__alien> yes
[10:45] <cagdas> gnomefreak: removing the totem-gstreamer is not a good idea
[10:45] <gnomefreak> anubis: have you rebooted since you upgraded?
[10:45] <anubis> yeah
[10:45] <gnomefreak> cagdas: its fine
[10:45] <cagdas> gnomefreak: ubuntu-desktop is based on it
[10:46] <gnomefreak> cagdas: thats fine
[10:46] <gnomefreak> let it be removed
[10:46] <cagdas> gnomefreak: ok
[10:46] <anubis> gnomefreak: i did
[10:46] <hawkaloogie> is there a terminal emulator that can save state? like tabs and what I was doing in those tabs? (tab 1: tail -f /var/log/apache. tab 2: tail -f /var/log/kernel. etc...)
[10:46] <gnomefreak> anubis: you didnt do it right
[10:46] <anubis> gnomefreak: enlight me then pls
[10:46] <cagdas> gnomefreak: so, I've removed
[10:47] <gnomefreak> anubis: type gksudo "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and paste the file to pastebin
[10:47] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[10:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:47] <cagdas> gnomefreak: but still I can't install firefox plugin
[10:47] <edscho1> hi
[10:47] <edscho1> I have a question about Ubuntu universe
[10:47] <gnomefreak> edscho1: ask
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> edscho1: When you have a question, just ask
[10:48] <SpaceFrog> anyone used gAIM beta 2?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> cagdas: i dont know and i cant test it right now im not on dapper
[10:48] <gnomefreak> SpaceFrog: yes
[10:48] <SpaceFrog> gnomefreak: how is it?
[10:48] <SpaceFrog> stable?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> its ok
[10:48] <gnomefreak> no
[10:48] <gnomefreak> beta
[10:48] <edscho1> The Universe freeze for Edgy is I think tomorrow -- and I'm concerned that the package python-scipy is going to be out of date. I would like to see a sync / merge with Debian unstable
[10:48] <cagdas> gnomefreak: what I actually want to learn is does previous commands which are canceled can affect the latter ones?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> ed 26th
[10:48] <anubis> gnomefreak: whats a pastebin
[10:49] <AbortD> is tehre a windows media player codec for windows?
[10:49] <anubis> gnomefreak: the file its open, what do i do now
[10:49] <gnomefreak> edscho1: file a bug report and the freeze is the 26th
[10:49] <gnomefreak> anubis: paste it to pastebin
[10:49] <anubis> gnomefreak: ok, what do i do now
[10:50] <gnomefreak> click send in pastebin and give me the link
[10:50] <edscho1> I'm one of the scipy developers. Is a bug report the best thing I can do to get the latest Debian unstable version into Edgy? I'd like to join as a MOTU too, but not before 26/9
[10:50] <gnomefreak> edscho1: go ask in #ubuntu-motu but they will tell you the same thing about filing a bug
[10:50] <edscho1> Thanks, gnomefreak
[10:51] <cagdas> gnomefreak: did you get my question or is it boring :)
[10:51] <gnomefreak> cagdas: i said i cant help you im not on dapper
[10:51] <gnomefreak> so i cant see what is going on with it
[10:51] <gnomefreak> lastnode_: you on dapper?
[10:51] <cagdas> gnomefreak: my last question was a meta-question but
[10:51] <gnomefreak> didnt see it
[10:51] <ziro01> sup?
[10:51] <lastnode_> gnomefreak, yessir
[10:52] <crimsun> edscho1: it's already in Edgy.
[10:52] <gnomefreak> lastnode_: can you install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[10:52] <gnomefreak> and get it to work?
[10:52] <crimsun> edscho1: python-scipy | 0.5.1-3ubuntu2 | http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages
[10:52] <AbortD> is tehre a windows media player codec for windows?
[10:52] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[10:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:53] <lastnode_> gnomefreak, give me a page to check :P
[10:53] <gnomefreak> AbortD: read those links
[10:53] <cagdas> AbortD: w32codecs
[10:53] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:53] <gnomefreak> lastnode_: i dont have one
[10:53] <gnomefreak> cagdas: do you have a webpage to check with?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> andrew_: im waiting for the pastebin page
[10:53] <cagdas> gnomefreak: the plugin?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> cagdas: yes a site to check the plugin
[10:54] <lastnode_> cagdas, im checking it for you, give me a page to load
[10:54] <cagdas> lastnode: http://mizah.milliyet.com.tr/komikvideo.asp?id=83
[10:54] <AbortD> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:54] <AbortD> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:54] <AbortD> is only available from another source
[10:55] <ezech> hi
[10:55] <lastnode> AbortD, architecture?
[10:55] <lastnode> ezech, hi
[10:55] <gnomefreak> AbortD: read the links ubotu gave
[10:55] <cagdas> AbortD: you should add other repisetories
[10:55] <gnomefreak> AbortD: its not in the repos
[10:55] <thenetduck> hey can I get some help with my right clicker?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> !w32codecs
[10:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:55] <cagdas> lastnode: Does it work?
[10:55] <edscho1> Thanks, crimsun. It's gone in in the last 7 days or so. Great.
[10:56] <lastnode> cagdas, loading
[10:56] <thenetduck> my right clicker doesn't work in gnome anyone know how to make it work /
[10:56] <gnomefreak> cagdas: what arch are you on
[10:56] <AbortD> can gstreamer use the codecs?
[10:56] <ziro01> secret
[10:56] <gnomefreak> AbortD: yes thats what it does
[10:56] <AbortD> oh
[10:56] <cagdas> 6.06
[10:56] <gnomefreak> AbortD: btw mplayer plays most of them by default
[10:56] <lastnode> cagdas, architecture, not version
[10:56] <gnomefreak> AbortD: 64bit, ppc, 386
[10:56] <cagdas> i386
[10:57] <AbortD> ?
[10:57] <AbortD> 386
[10:57] <lastnode> ok, on the page i can see the media window load, but it's taking an awfully long time to load. slow server?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> AbortD: no not you
[10:57] <gnomefreak> AbortD: install mplayer
[10:57] <cagdas> lastnode: probably
[10:57] <AbortD> you said abortd :P
[10:57] <AbortD> mplayer is installed
[10:57] <cagdas> lastnode: my problem is installing the package
[10:57] <gnomefreak> AbortD: it was a typo
[10:57] <lastnode> AbortD, mplayer <filename>
[10:57] <lastnode> cagdas, package installed fine
[10:57] <AbortD> yeah well
[10:57] <tomcatt> !cvs
[10:57] <cagdas> let me repeat my question people, may be you missed my question
[10:57] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[10:58] <AbortD> i would like to view wmv files on webpages
[10:58] <cagdas> what I actually want to learn is does previous commands which are canceled can affect the latter ones?
[10:58] <lastnode> tomcatt, try and use /msg ubotu cvs
[10:58] <gnomefreak> !wmv
[10:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:58] <gnomefreak> AbortD: read those links
[10:58] <cagdas> did you get my question?
[10:58] <lastnode> cagdas, nope
[10:58] <cagdas> I mean I have given a command to apt-get which I canceled
[10:59] <lastnode> if the package wasnt installed, or was still being downloaded, it wont be there
[10:59] <cagdas> the command was "sudo apt-get install totem-xine-firefox-plugin" which wanted to remove gstreamer
[10:59] <cagdas> I've asnwered no
[10:59] <gnomefreak> cagdas: xine is not gstreamer
[10:59] <cagdas> and I have given the command "sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer-firefoxiplugin"
[10:59] <edscho1> What's the Ubuntu-supported way to set the /usr/bin/python link to point to python-2.5 in Edgy?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> cagdas: you cant have totem and totem-xine on same system at same time
[10:59] <cagdas> but it says it cannot find gstreamer
[11:00] <cagdas> gnomefreak: yes, I know this
[11:00] <lastnode> edscho1, it should have done that for you
 is print screen works for takin screenshots during ubuntu installation process ?
[11:00] <gnomefreak> cagdas: install totem-gstreamer
[11:00] <root__> how to know what is my ubuntu version :P
[11:00] <edscho1> lastnode: no, still /usr/bin/python -> python2.4
[11:00] <cagdas> gnomefreak: I've it, I've installed it severeal times again again
[11:00] <edscho1> Does it require a dpkg-reconfigure?
[11:00] <thenetduck> gnomefreak my right clicker on gnome doesn't work, do you know why this might be happening?
[11:00] <gnomefreak> muhammad: no  i think you have to do that in a vm session
[11:00] <cagdas> gnomefreak: maybe I have found a bug or something
[11:00] <lastnode> edscho1, yeah try that. or just use a soft link?
[11:00] <muhammad> gnomefreak aha ok thx
[11:01] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: reboot
[11:01] <thenetduck> gnomefreak just did nothing changed
[11:01] <AbortD> i cant figure this out....
[11:01] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: what did you do before it stopped working?
[11:01] <cagdas> gnomefreak: I mean although I have canceled the previous command apt system behaves as if it doesn't have gstreamer
[11:01] <edscho1> lastnode: yes, I could just overwrite the symlink myself ... but i was thinking that's a hack
[11:01] <gnomefreak> AbortD: its 2 command
[11:01] <gnomefreak> s
[11:01] <AbortD> nm
[11:01] <lastnode> edscho1, yeah, did you dist-upgrade?
[11:01] <Cyraq> i now declare that ubuntu sucks as a distro and that zenwalk is much, much, much, better.
[11:01] <agentofbsd> hi i just wanna ask is all the users in ubuntu box can use sudo and all users can edit the box is that right
[11:01] <AbortD> found something i think will help
[11:02] <Cyraq> thank you for yyour time.
[11:02] <lastnode> Cyraq, dissing distros goes in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:02] <thenetduck> gnomefreak:  I had an Xubunt install and did a sudo aptitude install ubuntu
[11:02] <gnomefreak> Cyraq: we dont care about your opinions and this isnt the place for it
[11:02] <edscho1> Does anyone know how to get a list of packages that can be reconfigured with dpkg-reconfigure? It would be a subset of all .debs installed on the system.
[11:02] <gnomefreak> thenetduck: i dont know than
[11:02] <gnomefreak> edscho1: all packages can be
[11:03] <AbortD> where does terminal download t hings to?
[11:03] <gnomefreak> home
[11:03] <|thunder> pwd
[11:03] <AbortD> thanks gnomefreak
[11:03] <gnomefreak> unless your cd'ed somewhere else
[11:03] <anubis> can anyone walk me trough upgrading from hoary to dapper
[11:03] <AbortD> oh
[11:03] <|thunder> most will DL to present working directory
[11:03] <AbortD> i see
[11:04] <cagdas> so no idea :(
[11:05] <anubis> can anyone walk me trough upgrading from hoary to dapper
[11:05] <SurfnKid> how can i stop my cdrom from spinning non stop
[11:05] <lastnode> anubis, change repos, apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:05] <barahona> holaaa
[11:05] <anubis> lastnode: dude change repos to what
[11:05] <|thunder> SurfnKid, umount it
[11:05] <barahona> necesito ayuda
[11:06] <barahona> en espaol
[11:06] <lastnode> anubis, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:06] <anubis> lastnode: i have benn using linux for merely hours
[11:06] <|thunder> anubis, too dapper repos
[11:06] <barahona> donde puedo entrar?
[11:06] <lastnode> anubis, replace hoary with dapper
[11:06] <lastnode> anubis, search for all instances of "hoary", replace with "dapper"
[11:06] <lastnode> anubis, sudo apt-get update
[11:06] <AbortD> i installed the codecs but the webpage video isnt working
[11:06] <lastnode> anubis, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:06] <edscho1> anubis: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_upgrade_from_Hoary_Hedgehog_-.3E_Breezy_Badger_-.3E_Dapper_Drake
[11:06] <anubis> ok ty all
[11:06] <lastnode> anubis, but id recommend upgrading to breezy first
[11:07] <anubis> lastnode: that is what i was about to tell you
[11:07] <xopher> Anyone here who knows how I to compile l-r-m for a specific kernel version instead of the latest one?
[11:08] <AbortD> gnomefreak, i installed the codecs but the webpage video isnt working
[11:08] <|thunder> you need mozilla plugins
[11:09] <AbortD> when  i try to play the video it says windows media player cant play it
[11:11] <gnomefreak> angelo: i told you change the word hoary to breezy than save file than run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:11] <gnomefreak> anot angelo
[11:11] <gnomefreak> anubis: read what i just typed
[11:11] <AbortD> should  i get kaffeine?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> AbortD: did you restart the music player?
[11:12] <AbortD> what do you mean?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> AbortD: what music player are you using to play what type of file
[11:12] <AbortD> its a wmv
[11:13] <AbortD> and it opens within the webpage
[11:13] <|thunder> can anyone name the app in the bottom left corner of this image ?  http://www.zenwalk.org/uploads/img448a50b82b3e8.png
[11:13] <AbortD> so i do not know
[11:13] <gnomefreak> AbortD: restart firefox than look in about:plugins again
[11:13] <AbortD> wow what os is that?
[11:14] <xopher> Anyone here who has the murrine-0.12.tar.gz source archive? I cant seem to download it from cimi's homepage. Id appreciate if someone sent it over. Or a amd64 deb of it ofcourse
[11:14] <gnomefreak> AbortD: is the wmv file encoded using DRM?
[11:15] <AbortD> huh?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> DRM= Digital Rights Media
[11:15] <AbortD> no
[11:16] <kamui> here's something wierd.  I put my icons on my gnome desktop to the right hand side of the screen.  All new icons automatically are placed underneath the last icon, instead of like windows automatically to the farthest top left.  I was very impressed and it was very unexpected
[11:16] <AbortD> i dont think i have the plugin for video installed
[11:16] <gnomefreak> AbortD: what plugin exactly
[11:16] <MrNaz> whats a good programmers text editor for Ubuntu? preferably one thats included in the repositories
[11:16] <AbortD> xine
[11:17] <gnomefreak> xine wont play wmv files
[11:17] <kamui> MrNaz: vim
[11:17] <kamui> gnomefreak: yea it will
[11:17] <AbortD> vlc?
[11:17] <Ademan> has anyone successfully installed the new beta NVIDIA drivers?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> Ademan: yes but they cant be used in dapper
[11:17] <Ademan> gnomefreak: why not?
[11:17] <lastnode> MrNaz, vim
[11:17] <anubis> lastnode: dude i replaced all the intances of hoary but this line "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _breezy Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / breezy main restricted" is giving me trouble at the update, what should i change it to
[11:18] <Chris_Johnson> Quick question from a total beginner: I installed Ubuntu for AMD64 yesterday, but need to get GTS (http://gts.sourceforge.net/) which doesn't seem to want to install by APT. The package filenames all end in i386 - can I run these on an AMD64 installation?
[11:18] <AbortD> kamui will vlc work?
[11:18] <kamui> AbortD: I don't use vlc, I use xine and totem
[11:18] <fdoving> anubis: remove it, or add a # at the beginning of the line.
[11:18] <kamui> AbortD: both play wmv files fine, you need the win32 codecs
[11:18] <gnomefreak> anubis: put a # infront of that
[11:18] <anubis> dont i need that line?
[11:18] <gnomefreak> and take the # away from the rest of the lines that say deb http
[11:18] <lastnode> anubis, kill that line
[11:18] <barahona> #espaolubunto
[11:19] <gnomefreak> barahona: #ubuntu-es
[11:19] <lastnode> !es
[11:19] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:19] <AbortD> gnomefreak, if totem is already installed will it support movies inside of webpageS?
[11:19] <anubis> ok ill do it
[11:19] <gnomefreak> AbortD: with the right encoders yes encoders = codecs
[11:19] <fdoving> anubis: it's just for instalalling stuff from the installcd. you don't need it if you prefer to download fresh packages from the internet.
[11:19] <anubis> ok
[11:20] <kamui> AbortD: completely depends on your browser and its config
[11:20] <AbortD> ok i didnt have the totem gstreamer firefox plugin installed is that what i should install?
[11:20] <tony759> goodmorning everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:20] <Ademan> gnomefreak: why can't I use the new NVIDIA driver with dapper?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> |thunder: give me package name and ill tell you
[11:20] <lastnode> good morning tony759
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Ademan: they are for X7.1
[11:21] <kamui> geez, its late as all hell
[11:21] <Ademan> oh
[11:21] <lastnode> Ademan, you can use them with edgy
[11:21] <kamui> I've got to get some sleep
[11:21] <|thunder> gnomefreak, ok, brb
[11:21] <Ademan> gnomefreak: can i backport 7.1?
[11:21] <kamui> until tomorrow
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Ademan: no not a good idea
[11:21] <Ademan> :-(  ok then how do i uninstall the beta driver?
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Ademan: from nvidia.com?
[11:21] <Ademan> yes
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Ademan: sudo sh Nvidia........<rest of file name>  --uninstall
[11:22] <Ademan> k thanks
[11:23] <|thunder> gnomefreak, ndiswrapper-utils 1.8-0ubuntu2  is latest for dapper. I dont know where to find which version of ndistools it uses.
[11:23] <tony759> can someoene help me were i can find graphicals know how to work in shell managing files tar.gz and tar.bz2
[11:23] <gnomefreak> |thunder: 1.1-5 0
[11:23] <subpar> |thunder: that's for wireless right
[11:23] <|thunder> subpar, Yes
[11:24] <subpar> sweet, I was just trying to tell my friend about that package cause she can't get wireless to work
[11:24] <subpar> and I couldn't think of the name
[11:24] <subpar> haha, what are the odds
[11:24] <gnomefreak> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[11:24] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 136 kB
[11:24] <gnomefreak> !info ndiswrapper-utils edgy