[02:52] <{fe|feL}> REGISTER kikokiko
[02:52] <regeya> ok, I have a big ol' filesystem I've used as my one and only filesystem.  I deleted a debian install manually.  is there a way to install ubuntu from the desktop CD to this drive WITHOUT losing family pics and movies? :-/  If I have to get the alternate CD I will scream.
[02:53] <macogw> tofaffy: i dont know, but firestarter isnt the firewall, it's a configuration thing for iptables, which is the real firewall
[02:53] <kahrytan> macogw: I got the start and end blocks
[02:53] <Stratis> kahrytan: I'll refer you back to the link I provided; I can't remember from memory and I see no use reading it for you. : )
[02:53] <macogw> {fe|feL}: dont say it in here, say it to nickserv
[02:53] <tofaffy> well...thats what I meant
[02:53] <macogw> kahrytan: no i dont
[02:53] <Pelo> Khrajin,  stick around I 'm trying to convince the network admins to x-line you permenently, and they need your ip adress,   for wasting the channel's time
[02:53] <macogw> tofaffy: i'm sure with "man iptables" you could find out how to do it command line, but i dont know about firestarter
[02:53] <Khrajin> where can I enable 'Use restricted drivers' ?
[02:53] <Khrajin> in LDE
[02:53] <Khrajin> KDE
[02:54] <kahrytan> Stratis: I am reading it
[02:54] <ubotu> kotkot: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:54] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, see this FAQ on how to register http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[02:54] <Pelo> Khrajin,  try asking in #kubuntu  they know about kde there
[02:54] <macogw> Khrajin: run "restricted-manager"
[02:54] <tofaffy> Khrajin, is it nvidia drivers?
[02:54] <angel> quit
[02:54] <Khrajin> tofaffy: Nope.. Sadly ATI
[02:54] <angel> exit
[02:54] <{fe|feL}> thx
[02:54] <ribando> does anyone use vista home premium here for dual boot?
[02:54] <macogw> angelp: you need a / first
[02:54] <Stratis> Alright, later yall. : )
[02:54] <macogw> angelp: /quit
[02:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:54] <macogw> angelp: no space before it
[02:54] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[02:54] <Khrajin> macogw: Ended with "Segmentation fault'
[02:54] <ubotu> reneh78: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[02:54] <macogw> ubotu: where've you been? out to lunch?
[02:54] <regeya> !format
[02:55] <ubotu> {fe|feL}: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:55] <palintheus> theres ubotu
[02:55] <macogw> Khrajin: well that sucks.  oh well
[02:55] <ubotu> {fe|feL}: please see above
[02:55] <ribando> Khrajin try to use Envy
[02:55] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:55] <Khrajin> System rebooting, sec.
[02:55] <{fe|feL}> done
[02:55] <{fe|feL}> i am registered know i guess
[02:55] <PriceChild> macogw, was that lagging?
[02:55] <shk> does anyone know of any particular services that i may turn off to speed up boot times in feisty?
[02:55] <macogw> PriceChild: by about 5 minutes
[02:56] <slavik> shk: running any servers you don't really need? (apache, mysql, etc)
[02:56] <shk> no servers
[02:56] <shk> just a laptop
[02:56] <slavik> shk: not really
[02:56] <Janet32766> can someone help me with an ifconfig question? ifconfig eth0 mtu 9000 gives me SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument
[02:56] <Pelo> shk, you might check out the /etc/init.d/ folder and remove what you know you are not using
[02:56] <macogw> PriceChild: ubotu responded to !flood at 20:53 but was invoked at 20:49
[02:57] <palintheus> {fe|fel} yeah if you type "/msg nickserv info <nick>" it will tell you if you are registered some other stuff
[02:57] <Khrajin> !envy
[02:57] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[02:57] <Pelo> Janet32766, did you check out  man ifconfig ?
[02:57] <ribando> Khrajin what is the model of ur ATI card?
[02:57] <Khrajin> x1900'
[02:58] <shk> Pelo: is there any place where i can get descriptions for each of these?
[02:58] <Pelo> shk,  their names are pretty self explanartory,  you can probably man them to see what they are if yo don't know,   but try to remove only stuff you know about and that you know for sure that you donT' use
[02:59] <Pelo> shk,  don't so much remove then as move them maybe
[02:59] <ribando> Khrajin can u enable desktop effects?
[02:59] <vph> silly question, anyone knows why with ubuntu, the cpu frequency scaling monitor only show one cpu?
[02:59] <vph> :s
[02:59] <Khrajin> ribando Lemme try. I can only get a KDM going w/ Vesa
[02:59] <ribando> Khrajin r u using feisty?
[02:59] <Khrajin> ribando yes
[03:00] <shk> vph, you can put another in there and have it monitor the other core
[03:00] <vph> shk: it dosent have any options about which cpu to monitor?
[03:00] <Khrajin> ribandoI don't know where Desktop Effects are
[03:01] <shk> vph, when i right click mine and go to properties i can select CPU0 or CPU1 to monitor
[03:01] <vph> i think it needs and update
[03:01] <kahrytan> Umm Anyone know how to use fdisk to recovery partition table?
[03:01] <vph> shk: im on dapper
[03:01] <shk> im not sure why you need that though, it will always display the same
[03:02] <Janet32766> Pelo, yes on man page, syntax seems correct, 1500 works, 9000 doesn't for MTU (Dell integrated gigabit NIC)
[03:02] <ribando> Khrajin I got another laptop with an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M, and, for some reason, I can't enable desktop effects.It's like it wont even recognise my graphics card, but then, I've installed Envy, it automatically installed the drivers for my ATI, but I still enable them, I couldnt even access the restricted drivers manager, because It was saying that my computer doesnt need that.lol
[03:02] <vph> shk: ok then :o
[03:03] <slavik> ooh, how is the opensource driver support for the express 200M?
[03:03] <Khrajin> ribando: Do 'fglrxinfo' in terminal, what does it say?
[03:03] <ribando> Khrajin to enable desktop effects, u need to click on system, prefferences, and then "Desktop Effects"
[03:03] <Injen> I just got passed over on a Forensic Analyst position to some redneck that just came out of the military "with a clearance". I have money saying his IT experience is limited to www.break.com and checking his email..
[03:03] <gamer> hi, how do o
[03:03] <gamer> sry
[03:03] <slavik> Injen: welcome to the real world :P
[03:04] <Khrajin> ribando: I'm using KDE
[03:04] <slavik> Injen: I was that redneck. :(
[03:04] <slavik> Injen: j/k of course ... :)
[03:04] <macogw> Injen: so....just as qualified as most people that help others get their computers going?
[03:04] <ribando> Khrajin I dont even know what KDE is...lol
[03:04] <macogw> ribando: its the desktop environment that kubuntu uses
[03:04] <Khrajin> ribando: Another desktop management
[03:04] <macogw> ribando: very configurable
[03:04] <Injen> Real world? The one that will fail again? Unqualified military personel getting the good jobs with a big head about it, because they think they withheld some commitment to god by going to iraq?
[03:04] <macogw> ribando: ubuntu uses gnome, which is a bit simpler
[03:05] <Injen> It's their job.
[03:05] <ribando> Khrajin in this pc, I'm using Compiz Fusion, but its a Toshiba with an Intel 945GM graphics, the other one is a packard bell with the ATI.
[03:05] <eugman>  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:06] <macogw> eugman: trying to build something from source?
[03:06] <deathnall> ok guys i am having trouble modifying in my comp folder
[03:06] <deathnall> it says i dont have permission
[03:06] <macogw> deathnall: what folder is it?
[03:06] <ribando> macogw Khrajin  its for Kubuntu?but, Khrajin ur using it in ubuntu :s...I didnt know that could be done!
[03:06] <Khrajin> ribando lol what?
[03:06] <macogw> ribando: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:06] <deathnall> my file system
[03:07] <CodemasterMM> hey guys, i am using a Server Live CD - is there anyway i can make it install using the text-only install without having to download the 'alternate' CD?
[03:07] <deathnall> i go into mt
[03:07] <macogw> deathnall: anything outside home belongs to someone that's not you.  other people's homes belong to them, everything else belongs to root
[03:07] <deathnall> mnt sorry and i go to create a new folder but it wont let me
[03:07] <macogw> deathnall: keeps ya from borking the system ;)
[03:07] <macogw> deathnall: to get root access, preface your commands with "sudo"
[03:07] <ribando> macogw I'm I going to be able to use compiz fusion?
[03:07] <ribando> lol
[03:07] <nubeuntu> is there a simple GUI that I can use to do something similar to windows ICS (internet connection sharing)?
[03:07] <deathnall> ok what i was trying to do was mount an iso
[03:07] <macogw> ribando: i dont know. im just saying thats how you get kde on ubuntu
[03:08] <eugman> macogw, no trying to run a binary ,http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/downloads.html
[03:08] <ribando> Khrajin to use KDE in Ubuntu
[03:08] <deathnall> how the heck do i do it
[03:08] <deathnall> i have read that u have to do his
[03:08] <Codemaster> because it'd be quite annoying having to download a whole 'nother CD instead of being able to provide a simple boot option
[03:08] <ribando> macogw i think I'll give it a try...
[03:08] <deathnall>  To mount an ISO image in Linux, simply create a directory to use for your mount point:
[03:08] <deathnall> # mkdir /mnt/iso
[03:08] <Khrajin> ribando: It's pretty and nice
[03:08] <macogw> deathnall: # means its a root terminal
[03:08] <macogw> deathnall: $ means it's a user
[03:08] <Acidz0r> Hi, is there any way to force xorg to use an specific resolution?
[03:08] <ribando> macogw I think my big problem is that Vista changes the BIOS settings, that's why it gets crazy with ubuntu
[03:08] <deathnall> ok im lost
[03:08] <macogw> deathnall: so you'd do "sudo mkdir /mnt/iso"
[03:09] <Khrajin> Acidz0r: Sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg add in the reslutions
[03:09] <nubeuntu> Acidz0r: you could only list that resolution in xorg.conf but that may be dangerouse (newb answer)
[03:09] <deathnall> ok well the iso is on my desktop
[03:09] <macogw> ribando: no idea.  vista ate my ubuntu 2x so i decided 4 days testing the release candidate was long enough
[03:09] <deathnall> so do i have to put it somewhere?
[03:09] <macogw> deathnall: you need somewhere to mount it
[03:09] <Injen> You know what, today I realzied/join #politics
[03:09] <Injen> blah
[03:09] <macogw> deathnall: so you're making the place where it'll be mounted
[03:09] <deathnall> i mean the iso is on ym desktop
[03:09] <Codemaster> ha, well that sort of worked...
[03:09] <deathnall> but i cant move it into mnt
[03:09] <Codemaster> hit ESC and it went into TEXT mode
[03:09] <Codemaster> go figure, eh?
[03:10] <rgrant> hi all, i have a question about dist-upgrade
[03:10] <macogw> deathnall: not what you're supposed to do anyway
[03:10] <deathnall> ok so
[03:10] <deathnall> ummm
[03:10] <macogw> deathnall: as root (so using sudo) make the directory where you will mount it
[03:10] <nubeuntu> what is the linux equivalant of ICS?
[03:10] <macogw> deathnall: then tell it to mount to that place
[03:10] <ribando> macogw if u dual boot, one OS shouldnt have anything to do with the other, but then, I tried dual boot on the same machine, Ubuntu 7.04 with WinXPPro, and it worked fine. but when I try Ubuntu/Vista, I get all sorts of complications, from no sound, to no wifi connectivity and no desktop effects.lol
[03:10] <macogw> nubeuntu: the calendar format? it's still .ics
[03:10] <Sevk> have any soft can view intel945 cpu voltage
[03:10] <rgrant> what does dist-upgrade do differently from changing sources.list to point to new packages?
[03:10] <Acidz0r> Khrajin, nubeuntu, I already set the resolution in xorg.conf but xorg's still using the highest one and it's not supported by my display.
[03:10] <nubeuntu> macogw :) thanks but I meen Internet Connection Sharing
[03:10] <macogw> rgrant: thats about it
[03:11] <Codemaster> nubeuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[03:11] <mcbaker1723> can someone tell me how to get back my client button?
[03:11] <deathnall> ok i have hecked the props for mine.iso and it says its here /home/deathnall/Desktop. so what would i write?
[03:11] <macogw> mcbaker1723: client button?
[03:11] <Khrajin> Acidz0r: You can't force xserve to do a resolution higher than your videocard/display can do
[03:11] <ribando> macogw I didnt really get the part were u said that u decided 4 days testing the release candidate was long enough.lol
[03:11] <nubeuntu> Codemaster:  thanks. This is still current?
[03:11] <rgrant> so, if i have an old breezy install on a server and point the sources.list at feisty, then no problem?
[03:11] <macogw> deathnall: i think it'd be "sudo mount /home/deathnall/Desktop/mine.iso /mnt/iso"
[03:11] <Codemaster> nubeuntu: presumably.
[03:11] <nubeuntu> Codemaster: I found it but was afraid because of the date (2005)
[03:12] <Codemaster> ah
[03:12] <Acidz0r> Khrajin, my native resolution is 1280x720 and xorg is doing 1440x900.
[03:12] <Codemaster> im not sure
[03:12] <macogw> deathnall: but there might be some switch that has to be added to mount to make it do an iso, so if that site says - then a letter, do it
[03:12] <PriceChild> !iso | macogw
[03:12] <ubotu> macogw: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[03:12] <nubeuntu> Codemaster: thanks. I'll try it. best I have found :)
[03:12] <macogw> deathnall: ok so what the bot said
[03:12] <Codemaster> good luck
[03:12] <nubeuntu> ty
[03:12] <DQuestions> where does gaim save files by defualt
[03:12] <RudyValencia> is there a GUI program to manage fstab?
[03:12] <DQuestions> /home/user/???????
[03:12] <deathnall> mount: mount point /mnt/iso does not exist
[03:12] <Acidz0r> Khrajin, I removed all the resolutions in xorg.conf and left 1280x720 and xorg still using 1440x900.
[03:12] <DQuestions> how do i get there from command line
[03:12] <macogw> DQuestions: ~/.gaim
[03:13] <macogw> DQuestions: anything starting with a . is hidden.  you can tell the file browser to show hidden files if you want to see GUI-way
[03:13] <macogw> deathnall: did you make the directory?
[03:13] <Khrajin> Acidz0r: If your monitor only supports 1024x768 you cannot go higher than it, no matter the conf settings
[03:13] <macogw> deathnall: the "sudo mkdir /mnt/iso" part
[03:13] <deathnall> im gona do what u said to do what the bot said like im gona do now lol brb
[03:13] <mcbaker1723> HELLO!!!! can someone please tell me how to get back my client button on cahtzilla?
[03:14] <Acidz0r> Khrajin, My monitor is 1280x720 _native resolution_ 16:9.
[03:14] <macogw> Acidz0r: what graphics card?
[03:14] <Khrajin> Acidz0r: what ... that
[03:14] <macogw> Khrajin: ya got it backwards
[03:14] <Khrajin> macogw: You got it before me :P
[03:15] <deathnall> ok i typed this
[03:15] <deathnall> /home/deathnall/Desktop/mine.iso /mnt/
[03:15] <macogw> Acidz0r: if it's intel, install 915resolution
[03:15] <deathnall> nothing happened
[03:15] <Acidz0r> macogw, ATi 9200, driver ati, tried using flgrx but's not working.
[03:16] <macogw> deathnall: "sudo mkdir /mnt/iso && sudo mount -o loop /home/deathnall/Desktop/mine.iso /mnt/iso"
[03:16] <marC-> whats the best news leecher client for nzb files for linux?
[03:16] <macogw> Acidz0r: fglrx is for new cards. that one's old
[03:16] <edtech> I ran the feisty upgrade last night and bad things happened,
[03:16] <macogw> Acidz0r: therefore, you're using the right driver
[03:16] <mikeypizano> i think i brke my thinnkpad usb
[03:16] <macogw> edtech: have you used automatix before?
[03:17] <Acidz0r> macogw, and there's no way to force xorg to use that resolution?
[03:17] <edtech> not on this machine
[03:17] <macogw> edtech: good
[03:17] <mikeypizano> anyone know how to fix this?
[03:17] <deathnall> jeez now it says mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/iso': Read-only file system
[03:17] <Acidz0r> even using vesa doesn't let me use 1280x720.
[03:17] <macogw> edtech: because that could cause issues on upgrades, so i was just checking
[03:17] <edtech> I getting half a dozen broken dependencies
[03:17] <mcbaker1723> Joeeeeeeeeeeyyyyy...
[03:17] <sanguisde2> is there sothing I can install that will have missing packages auto installed when running ./configure
[03:17] <macogw> Acidz0r: some xorg drivers can only do the resolutions specified in the card's firmware
[03:17] <pawan> hi
[03:18] <jetscreamer> of course vesa doesn't
[03:18] <macogw> Acidz0r: i think that's why i cant get 1024x768 on my ati rage ii
[03:18] <macogw> mikeypizano: broke how?  like wedged a screwdriver in it?
[03:18] <edtech> when I try to repair them I get pre removal sc
[03:18] <edtech> r
[03:18] <edtech> ipt
[03:18] <mcbaker1723> hi pawan
[03:18] <edtech> cra
[03:18] <edtech> she
[03:18] <edtech> s
[03:18] <edtech>
[03:18] <edtech> o
[03:18] <Sevk> CPU
[03:18] <mikeypizano> like it wont work when i plug somethin in
[03:18] <macogw> !jp | sevk
[03:18] <edtech> on python packages
[03:18] <edtech> sorry
[03:19] <macogw> !cn | sevk
[03:19] <pawan> whats up
[03:19] <Sevk> cn
[03:19] <specialbuddy> what's a good program for editing money
[03:19] <deathnall> thnx macogw but im gona give up for now as i cant be arsed. i am struggling with linux
[03:19] <specialbuddy> music
[03:19] <specialbuddy> money
[03:19] <specialbuddy> stupid
[03:19] <luddite> greetings, what is the name of the ubuntu package that gives one a menu just like in debian... for browsing all apps, irrespective of desktop
[03:19] <deathnall> hav had it for like 1 wekk now and i just dont get most of it
[03:19] <macogw> Sevk:
[03:19] <luddite> in gnome
[03:20] <Sevk> how to view cpu voltage?  | macogw
[03:20] <deathnall> cya soon mate and thnx for your troubles
[03:20] <mikeypizano> i guess ill go back to windows
[03:20] <deathnall> cyaaaa
[03:20] <macogw> deathnall: takes some time.  i spent my first month trying to figure out my mp3 player and it turned out i just needed a certain program and was asking the wrong things
[03:20] <edtech> So how can I fix these darn python dependency problems?
[03:20] <deathnall> i know but i have tried looking for tutorials and they kinda chuck u in the deep end
[03:20] <sanguisde2> is there something I can install that will have missing packages auto installed when running ./configure
[03:20] <macogw> Sevk: the | was to tell the bot to talk to you, but the bot seems to be asleep
[03:21] <macogw> edtech: sudo apt-get -f
[03:21] <macogw> edtech: maybe
[03:21] <deathnall> cya macogw
[03:21] <macogw> deathnall: mostly they give commands that you can copy and paste and not actually have to know what it does
[03:21] <luddite> i'm trying to start xnest and i can't find the application although i installed it
[03:21] <Sevk> what is tho bot
[03:21] <macogw> deathnall: copy and paste is easier than "find a button with a picture of __ on it"
[03:21] <macogw> Sevk: there's a robot in the channel
[03:22] <Sevk> my god
[03:22] <Sevk> the bot is my god
[03:22] <|Carrera> hey everyone, do you know what might be causing my computer, after long periods of time, the screen doesnt wake up, but the fans and cpu are still running like a champ. What might be going on?
[03:22] <macogw> Sevk: i was telling it to tell you that this channel is english-only and that if you're japanese go to #ubuntu-jp and if you're chinese go to #ubuntu-cn because I wasn't sure which language it was since both use lots of kanji
[03:22] <mcbaker1723> mg,,,,,,lol
[03:22] <edtech> Ok get this error....
[03:22] <macogw> |Carrera: bad cpu frequency scaling?
[03:22] <superkirbyartist> What is xterm?
[03:22] <ribando> "macogw> Sevk: there's a robot in the channel" ahahahahahah...ROBOT :D
[03:22] <sparr> I have a locale archive file (I think) that my localedef cant or wont read.  Any ideas on getting data out of it?  I would like to remove some locales.
[03:23] <macogw> superkirbyartist: terminal emulator for use inside X
[03:23] <edtech> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:23] <edtech> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[03:23] <superkirbyartist> Macogw, is it included in Ubuntu?
[03:23] <macogw> edtech: do you have another package manager running?
[03:23] <Sevk> any software like cpu-z & everest ? like windows
[03:23] <jetscreamer> edtech: suco ?
[03:23] <macogw> superkirbyartist: yes
[03:23] <jetscreamer> sudo
[03:23] <macogw> superkirbyartist: i think so
[03:23] <superkirbyartist> Macogw, it prevented startx from starting on my 486.
[03:24] <|Carrera> macogw: How do I find out if that is the problem?
[03:24] <superkirbyartist> Macogw, the file was missing.
[03:24] <v3ctor> /quit
[03:24] <Acidz0r> macogw, do you if adding the Modeline will help with this?
[03:24] <macogw> Sevk: you can install lm-sensors and it'll activate the sensors, then you can add an applet to your panel that shows the temperature and mhz, i think
[03:24] <luddite> gnome main menu anyone??
[03:24] <edtech> lots of new errors
[03:24] <luddite> beuller, beuller
[03:24] <ConstyXIV> what would setting "noatime" in fstab accomplsih?
[03:24] <itFinallyWorks> could somebody help with this problem: I am trying to setup dual monitors (using mergedFB) on my toshiba A75 laptop (Radeon 9000 IGP, detected as Radeon 9100 IGP), but I can only ever get 1 monitor at a time to work.  I have followed the instructions on the Ubuntu forums as well as instructions from other places, but I still can't get it to work.
[03:24] <macogw> superkirbyartist: oh...um...maybe it needs to be installed separate then, but htatd be suprising.  default term emulator in ubuntu is gnome-terminal
[03:25] <Codemaster> hmm
[03:25] <Sevk> yes ,but i need voltage,and more
[03:25] <Codemaster> maybe someone will know
[03:25] <Codemaster> how can i do a text installation
[03:25] <Codemaster> without having to go and download the alternate install CD
[03:25] <macogw> |Carrera: i dont know. if thats the problem, its a bug and there are workarounds like telling it not to use over a certain frequency, for instance, 1.2ghz
[03:25] <{fe|feL}> hey guyz, i am back
[03:25] <macogw> Codemaster: by downloading the DVD
[03:25] <superkirbyartist> Found it!
[03:25] <Codemaster> macogw: bah
[03:26] <Codemaster> so i'll have to download the alternate CD basically? :P
[03:26] <macogw> Codemaster: or buy the dvd from amazon or get the DVD in the back of The Official Ubuntu Book or some other book
[03:26] <boromir_> .
[03:26] <Codemaster> yeah
[03:26] <Codemaster> okay, thanks :)
[03:27] <Codemaster> sucks having to download another thing but oh well, live and learn
[03:27] <edtech> Preparing to replace python-sip4 4.4.5-2ubuntu1 (using .../python-sip4_4.5-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
[03:27] <edtech> Traceback (most recent call last):
[03:27] <edtech>   File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1394, in ?
[03:27] <edtech>     main()
[03:27] <edtech>   File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 1388, in main
[03:27] <edtech>     rv = action.run(global_options)
[03:27] <edtech>   File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 953, in run
[03:27] <edtech>     runtimes = get_installed_runtimes(with_unsupported=True)
[03:27] <edtech>   File "/usr/bin/pycentral", line 198, in get_installed_runtimes
[03:27] <Flannel> edtech: please don't paste here.
[03:27] <bruenig> !ops
[03:27] <edtech>     default_version = pyversions.default_version(version_only=True)
[03:27] <edtech>   File "/usr/share/pycentral-data/pyversions.py", line 129, in default_version
[03:27] <edtech>     if not _default_version in (debian_default, os.path.join('/usr/bin', debian_default)):
[03:27] <edtech>   File "/usr/lib/python2.4/posixpath.py", line 60, in join
[03:27] <numist> :/
[03:27] <edtech>     if b.startswith('/'):
[03:27] <edtech> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith'
[03:27] <edtech> dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[03:27] <edtech> dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
[03:27] <m1r> how to uninstall *.deb file ?
[03:27] <superkirbyartist> Macogw, there is a problem with SecurityPolicy, one with /dev/mouse and one with xterm
[03:28] <bruenig> m1r, you can apt-get remove it, dpkg -r it
[03:28] <macogw> superkirbyartist: im sorry, i dont know
[03:28] <superkirbyartist> All right.
[03:28] <superkirbyartist> Later, everyone!
[03:28] <m1r> bruenig , and what about dependencies it dl over internet ?
[03:28] <bruenig> m1r, autoremove
[03:28] <edtech> sorry
[03:29] <m1r> many tnx bruenig, i go check
[03:29] <Rprp> Does someone how i can add subtitles ?
[03:29] <CheeseGardener> How do you assign a user to a group????
[03:29] <edtech> When I ren apt-get -f install I get lots of errors about pre removal scripts
[03:29] <macogw> CheeseGardener: system > admin > users and groups
[03:29] <edtech> *run
[03:30] <pawan> hello
[03:30] <macogw> typing "users" without leaving out the e is hard
[03:30] <Codemaster> macogw: just to double check, http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/7.04/ubuntu-7.04-alternate-i386.iso would be a text-based installer and would only install the minimal amount of packages?
[03:30] <bruenig> CheeseGardener, useradd -G groupname
[03:31] <CheeseGardener> ok, so can the owner be different from the group????
[03:31] <rpedro> Rprp: I think devede supports subtitles
[03:31] <{fe|feL}> this is my problem: after i downloaded the cd i check it with winmd5sum and it said every thing is ok, so i burned the iso files on a CD with Infra Recorder just as i was adviced on the site
[03:31] <Rprp> rpedro: thnx, im gonna take a look ;>
[03:31] <macogw> Codemaster: it wouldnt install minimal
[03:31] <CheeseGardener> If I create a drive, can the owner and group be two different things?
[03:31] <macogw> Codemaster: it installs the same thing
[03:31] <Codemaster> ah
[03:31] <Codemaster> hm...
[03:31] <bruenig> CheeseGardener, yes
[03:31] <{fe|feL}> now when i enter the cd and run the bios to load from cd
[03:31] <macogw> Codemaster: but you can use LVM with it
[03:31] <Codemaster> yeah
[03:31] <Pelo> CheeseGardener,  sudo chown /path  user I think
[03:31] <{fe|feL}> it does, but then what to do
[03:31] <{fe|feL}> ???
[03:31] <m1r> bruenig , could not find package , with apt-get remove
[03:31] <CheeseGardener> how do I change the "group" that owns a drive?
[03:31] <rpedro> Rprp: i did a videocd a whle back, i think it was that program that used,.. was fine
[03:32] <CheeseGardener> sudo chgrp /path group ?
[03:32] <Codemaster> macogw: so the alt install still installs GNOME and all that, even if i want a, let's say, headless machine?
[03:32] <macogw> Codemaster: if you, from the text-installer, install a text-only system, it wont have GNOME
[03:32] <bruenig> m1r, paste the command you used
[03:32] <Codemaster> yeah
[03:32] <macogw> Codemaster: you can do a server install from the text-installer
[03:32] <Codemaster> that's basically what i want :)
[03:32] <bruenig> !prefix | CheeseGardener
[03:32] <Codemaster> awesome, ok
[03:32] <macogw> Codemaster: oh ok
[03:32] <Codemaster> anything special i have to do with it
[03:32] <m1r> bruenig ; apt-get remove vodafone-mobile-connect-card-driver-for-linux_<IP_ADDRESS>_feisty_all.deb
[03:32] <Codemaster> or will it deal with that option for me
[03:32] <palintheus> bruenig, ubotu not working for now, ubuntu-ops said something about resetting it
[03:32] <macogw> Codemaster: pick that option when it asks. i think it's "server install" or "install text-only system" at the beginning
[03:33] <bruenig> m1r, use same command, but take out everything after the first _
[03:33] <Codemaster> ah okay
[03:33] <Codemaster> macogw: thanks so mcuh
[03:33] <bruenig> m1r, including the first _
[03:33] <{fe|feL}> can anyon help me in that situation
[03:33] <m1r> bruenig, will do, sec
[03:33] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, what cd and what are you trying to do with it?
[03:33] <Svish> how do you switch between the windows'ish stuff and terminals?
[03:33] <{fe|feL}> the ubuntu CD
[03:33] <Svish> i read something about ctrl+alt+F*
[03:34] <exyan> where's the main bashrc file?
[03:34] <exyan> system-wide
[03:34] <Svish> but how do you get back to regular ubuntu?
[03:34] <{fe|feL}> when i boot it, i don't know what is the next step to install it
[03:34] <m1r> bruenig, it removing, tnx m8
[03:34] <bruenig> Svish, the virtual consoles, are ctrl alt f1-6, X is ctrl alt f7
[03:34] <v3ctor>  /etc/environment
[03:34] <macogw> Svish: that'd be GUI (graphic user interface) and VT (virtual terminal)
[03:34] <v3ctor> exyan: ^^
[03:34] <Svish> bruenig: thanks :)
[03:34] <bruenig> v3ctor, what does that file do
[03:34] <macogw> exyan: /etc
[03:34] <exyan> kk ;)) dumb question
[03:35] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, when it prompts press a key to boot the cd, then select boot from cd or or similar, I can't remember the exact wording
[03:35] <macogw> v3ctor: i thought it was /etc/bash.bashrc
[03:35] <Khrajin> I enable Restricted Drivers thru the gui and after I reboot I get the fabled blank screen of ati
[03:35] <exyan> macogw it is :)
[03:36] <{fe|feL}> yes i do boot from the cd and a graphical GUI appears to me wih many other choices
[03:36] <bruenig> does anyone know what /etc/environment does, I could never figure it out
[03:36] <v3ctor> macogw: depends on what you are doing i guess
[03:36] <{fe|feL}> but what am i to do with them
[03:36] <{fe|feL}> nothin of them instals the OS
[03:36] <v3ctor> bruenig: global variable setting
[03:36] <michael__> can someone help me with my internet coennection
[03:36] <exyan> btw where are the desktop-effects config files?
[03:36] <Valion> Ateno:
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[03:36] <Khrajin> michael__: I assure you it is working.
[03:36] <bruenig> v3ctor, how though? look at it, it can't be sourced
[03:37] <pawan> whats the best linux distro
[03:37] <macogw> {fe|feL}: "start or install ubuntu" would be the one for installation.  safe graphics mode if you have trouble with graphics after trying that
[03:37] <Codemaster> pawan: the one you are most comfortable with
[03:37] <bruenig> !best | pawan
[03:37] <macogw> pawan: that's personal preference
[03:37] <bruenig> woops
[03:37] <eboyjr> pawan: I like Ubuntu
[03:37] <macogw> bruenig: the bot's out to lunch
[03:37] <v3ctor> bruenig: i just sourced mine
[03:37] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, when you get to the desktop click on the install icon
[03:37] <Lopes> ha ha thanks, but this is from my modem, i need to connect with my router via ethernet, and oit wont work
[03:37] <exyan> pawan: I used to be gentoo, now I'm on ubuntu ;)
[03:37] <pawan> ok
[03:37] <{fe|feL}> ok i tried the start or install ubuntu
[03:37] <vph> pawan: also depends on what kinda stuff you do
[03:37] <vph> linux can be desktop or server
[03:37] <matheus> oi
[03:37] <{fe|feL}> and it just starts no installation process is loading
[03:37] <pawan> music
[03:37] <bruenig> v3ctor, what variables are set?
[03:38] <vph> pawan: windows :)
[03:38] <macogw> ive used ubuntu my whole time, but ive played with fedora and sabayon, and now i have 1 box running Debian (aside from my ubuntu/debian dual boot laptop)
[03:38] <v3ctor> I have PATH and LANG in mine
[03:38] <{fe|feL}> no installation icon is there
[03:38] <pawan> then ubuntu for what
[03:38] <macogw> {fe|feL}: it goes to the desktop and there should be "install" on the desktop
[03:38] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, do you get a deskop?
[03:38] <TimK65> Hello everyone. Is anybody using the soundKonverter application (yeah, I know, it's KDE)? It's giving me trouble.
[03:38] <eboyjr> vph: windows! ahh!
[03:38] <ribando> hi everyone
[03:38] <{fe|feL}> just an empty desktop and nothing else works b the way
[03:38] <Lopes> Would anyone help me connect this computer to my router via ethernet
[03:38] <bruenig> v3ctor, but is that there by default or did you just add that yourself, because when I looked at the default one it had a path in it, but it didn't have PATH= the path, it just had a path sitting there
[03:38] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, you may need to use the alternate cd
[03:38] <{fe|feL}> yes i do get an orange desktop
[03:38] <Daemon> hi, im following this guide: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux and it says to trying logging in to test it with the command "vncviewer localhost 1", when i do that im supposed to be presented with the login screen after login but i just get a black and white dotted page with a X as my mouse, have I done something wrong?
[03:39] <{fe|feL}> but no icons and nothing work there
[03:39] <macogw> {fe|feL}: did you try safe graphics mode?
[03:39] <{fe|feL}> no i did not
[03:39] <Pelo> {fe|feL},  look under  menu > system > admin > install , I think you can start the install from there
[03:39] <macogw> {fe|feL}: and check that your cd isnt bad
[03:39] <{fe|feL}> does it used for installation
[03:39] <vph> pawan: ubuntu is for me the best desktop option if you know your way behind the desktop
[03:39] <v3ctor> bruenig: mine has PATH=<path> on default install
[03:39] <ribando> I got a question, between Kiba-Dock and Avant Window Navigator, which one is the best to use, and, since they are still in development, has any of you had any problems while using them? thanks
[03:39] <{fe|feL}> how to chech itm althought i have made check using md5 something
[03:39] <pawan> ok
[03:39] <macogw> ribando: i think AWN is the more stable of the two, but i havent tried it.  kiba crashes every time a setting is changed
[03:40] <bruenig> v3ctor, is it sourced in /etc/profile? I haven't used ubuntu in a while, I remember a long thread on this on the forums about how pointless the file seemed
[03:40] <macogw> {fe|feL}: there's a "check cd integrity" option on the boot splash
[03:40] <vph> pawan: but from a musician to a musician, linux is not the best option for music
[03:40] <{fe|feL}> and if it says error
[03:40] <{fe|feL}> or something like that
[03:40] <pawan> i just want to listen to songs
[03:40] <v3ctor> bruenig: i always use /etc/profile
[03:40] <chowmeined> Whats a good online music store that I can download albums from, which has ogg format?
[03:40] <ribando> macogw I have used both of them, and they're both not very good to use right now.lol
[03:40] <macogw> pawan: ooo just listening not editing?
[03:40] <palintheus> {fefel} when it first boots from the cd and you have several choices choose check cd for defects or similar,
[03:40] <vph> pawan: on your ipod?
[03:40] <macogw> pawan: then whatever one you like
[03:40] <vph> yea
[03:40] <vph> i thought he wanted to make music on linux
[03:40] <vph> he
[03:40] <bruenig> v3ctor, but does /etc/profile source /etc/environment in it
[03:40] <exyan> where should I put xset stuff?
[03:41] <pawan> on my computer system
[03:41] <v3ctor> bruenig: i rarely ever do global setting anymore
[03:41] <{fe|feL}> ok, is there a particuler program that  burns the iso on a cd better than the one recomended by the site
[03:41] <vph> pawan: then any distro would give you the same result as most distro as far as i know use the ASLA drivers
[03:41] <macogw> pawan: i like ubuntu and debian because i like apt more than portage or yum or yast
[03:41] <v3ctor> bruenig: no, /etc/profile does not source it
[03:41] <lch> hi, i run gutsy and automount of USB memory stick stopped working, reinstalling of udev and hal did not work. seen bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-mount/+bug/130490 but that does not have real detail about the solution. does someone know what to do here?
[03:41] <macogw> pawan: but as far as usage, theyre generally pretty even on desktop distros
[03:41] <bruenig> I have never seen /etc/environment in any other distro before, I just assumed it was some debian carry over that nobody thought to get rid of
[03:42] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, no just burn the cd with nothing else open and on the slowest speed avail
[03:42] <pawan> what about linux mint and linspire
[03:42] <exyan> so where do I put my xset stuff :)?
[03:42] <{fe|feL}> ok
[03:42] <Lopes> Would anyone help me connect this computer to my router via ethernet?
[03:42] <vph> pawan: ubuntu is the most user friendly i would say from my experience
[03:42] <ubotu> sevk:  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[03:42] <ubotu> sevk: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:42] <{fe|feL}> hx alot for the adviceses guyz
[03:42] <bruenig> linux mint would be just as user friendly as ubuntu
[03:42] <bruenig> so would mepis
[03:42] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, np
[03:42] <ribando> macogw I've just finished my testing on the AWN, and removed it 5 minutes ago..lol...when I was still using it, the firefox web browser would just close over nothing, just suddenly.lol, and more...when I was watching a video, streaming on the web, after a little while, the video would start playing in slow motion with distorted sound, and then, would play fine, and then distorted again...
[03:42] <{fe|feL}> and cya later if i succed in installing or didn'y
[03:42] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[03:42] <{fe|feL}> bbye
[03:42] <palintheus> looks like ubotu trying to play catch up
[03:42] <ubotu> CheeseGardener: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[03:42] <bruenig> ubotu explosion
[03:43] <Toma-> nice lag
[03:43] <fujin> hi, is there anyway I can see what a init script is doing (besides strace?)
[03:43] <macogw> ribando: so basically, avoid them both
[03:43] <fujin> I just really want to step through what is happening
[03:43] <ubotu> pawan: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[03:43] <macogw> wtf ubotu's lag is now something like 20 minutes
[03:43] <ribando> macogw it was just way too much trouble...just to get the system
[03:43] <macogw> it was 7 before
[03:43] <ribando> macogw it was just way too much trouble...just to get the system
[03:43] <bruenig> fujin, look at the script
[03:43] <ribando> sorry for the repetition
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about explosion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <macogw> someone go reboot ubotu
[03:43] <fujin> yeah, but when I run what the script is doing it works
[03:43] <fujin> but the script doesn't work
[03:43] <boyam> !gutsy > lch
[03:43] <wers> why is that inactive kde apps request attention whenever I switch to their desktops?
[03:43] <ribando> macogw it was just way too much trouble...just to get the desktop kinda like looking like mac OS.lol
[03:43] <pawan> ok
[03:43] <macogw> boyam: he wont get the message for 5 more minutes ;)
[03:43] <exyan> so noone know where I could find desktop-effects configs and place my xset stuff?
[03:44] <macogw> ribando: ewwww macosx
[03:44] <bruenig> fujin, put an echo in it ever so often to say what part it is on and run it to figure out where the issue is
[03:44] <macogw> exyan: there in ~/.compiz i think
[03:44] <Pelo> exyan, trry asking in #ubuntu-effects
[03:44] <fujin> hrm guess so
[03:44] <fujin> thanks
[03:44] <palintheus> boyam - ubotu is trying to catch up from about 15 min ago...
[03:44] <boyam> macogw: otcha thanks
[03:44] <ribando> macogw ahahahahahha..honestly, I dont understand why people like that.lol
[03:44] <vph> ribando: if you want candy eye, but would trade stability and you know what to behind the desktop... well you should look at something like compiz
[03:44] <lch> thanks boyam, will ask there
[03:44] <boyam> palintheus: thx
[03:44] <exyan> and for the xset stuff :)?
[03:45] <exyan> oh and some startup file where I could put in skype and so on?
[03:45] <Sevk>  in XChat gnomehow to IGNORE  others quit and joinin message?
[03:45] <exyan> :)
[03:45] <boyam> lch goto #ubuntu+1
[03:45] <macogw> boyam: it shouldnt take 5 minutes.  the bot's being stupid though
[03:45] <vph> the only neat thing about compiz is the windows grouping and the added functionality to controlling the windows not actually the candy eye
[03:45] <bruenig> Sevk, they may have taken that out of xchat-gnome
[03:45] <Pelo> Seveas, not sure move to tab mode and right click on the channel tab
[03:45] <macogw> exyan: system > pref > sessions
[03:45] <bruenig> Sevk, probably should get xchat
[03:46] <ribando> vph ...nah...I dont like to just look, I've been using compiz fusion for quite some time now :o :D...I think is just perfect, not just eyecandy, for example, the Expo its very good, the scale is also another good one, and the zoom function :o
[03:46] <Traveler_> is the any way i can run windows messenger live on ubuntu?
[03:46] <palintheus> sevk, right click the channel tab and uncheck show join/part messages
[03:46] <Sevk> ok
[03:46] <sparr> Lots of packages are installing locale data that I do not want.  Is there a 'right' way to get rid of it?  Or to prevent future packages from installing more?  Can I dpkg-divert /usr/share/locale/ to /dev/null?
[03:46] <boyam> macogw lol  pour a lil water on ubotu...cool it down
[03:47] <macogw> Traveler_: no, but you can talk to its users and use video with them using kopete or amsn, and if you dont need video, then the included gaim will work just fine
[03:47] <bruenig> sparr, disk space problem?
[03:47] <sparr> bruenig: yes
[03:47] <vph> ribando: yea the extra functionality and the plugins feature is nice
[03:47] <andyvarner> anybody know a different place to download wl_apsta.o from besides that boredklinks.googlepages thing
[03:47] <andyvarner> because that definately doesn't work anymore
[03:47] <orudie> i have just installed ubuntu 7.04 on the same drive as my win XP os but onto a different partition (there are 2 partitions on this hard drive) and the installation of ubuntu did not prompt me for boot menu options, after installation of ubuntu 7.04 was complete, i rebooted the computer and it went straght into win xp
[03:47] <vph> ribando: that is what caught my attention, not all the candy eye
[03:47] <macogw> sparr: did you install extra locales?
[03:47] <ubuntu_> hi, my name is HELIO, i from brasil.........
[03:47] <ubuntu_> help!
[03:48] <bruenig> !br | ubuntu_
[03:48] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:48] <ribando> vph one other thing that I also love about compiz fusion is the "Shift+Super+S" function, that allows u to have one window wide open and 2 more partly opened, in case ur doing lots of stuff and then u can keep an eye in 3 different things.
[03:48] <blazemonger> http://pastebin.com/m1270f114
[03:48] <sparr> macogw: not intentionally.  some packages come with a lot of extra ones though.
[03:48] <blazemonger> ubuntu feisty
[03:48] <macogw> orudie: super grub disk, and install grub on it
[03:48] <bruenig> !ot | ribando vph
[03:48] <ubotu> ribando vph: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:48] <Pelo> ubuntu_,  try  /join #ubuntu-br
[03:49] <ioioioioiiiio> hi, my dad was messing with my computer and then turned it off without shutting down, and now the graphics are reacting very slowly, how should i diagnose whats wrong?
[03:49] <ribando> vph I have to admit...everyone wants his/her computer to look nice...that's why they got the preview and the window switcher in vista now...lots of ppl that love MS say that ubuntu is only good looks, and nothing more, and then...MS are adding eye candy to their OS now...wonder why :s!lol
[03:49] <Pelo> ioioioioiiiio, did you try to reboot it normaly afterwards ?
[03:49] <blazemonger> ;5how do i configure clamav?
[03:50] <bruenig> !ot | ribando vph
[03:50] <bullgard4> English help wanted: When dragging a URL name from a webbrowser and dropping it in Nautilus, a new entry will be created in Nautilus. What is the text of this entry in English? Is it 'link to <foo>?
[03:50] <ubotu> ribando vph: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:50] <ribando> bruenig ahahahaha...oki doki...got the message...
[03:50] <bruenig> bullgard4, just open it in a text editor and see
[03:50] <edtech> mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa
[03:51] <Traveler_> macogw: thanks for that info
[03:51] <ioioioioiiiio> Pelo, yes
[03:51] <ioioioioiiiio> also the keboard reacts slowly
[03:51] <orudie> macogw, thanx will it prompt me which OS to boot if i use this super grub iso?
[03:51] <macogw> edtech: english!
[03:51] <bullgard4> bruenig: I cannot open it in a text editor and see because I do not have an English version of Ubuntu but rather a foreign Ubuntu v7.04 version.
[03:51] <{fe|feL}> bacj guyz
[03:51] <edtech> Running apt-get -f install gets lots of errors I do not understand
[03:51] <macogw> orudie: itll let you pick which one to boot from it, i think, but itll also let you install grub so you always have the option there
[03:51] <{fe|feL}> back*guyz
[03:51] <Pelo> ioioioioiiiio,  try running  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but I don'T know if that will do anything
[03:52] <bruenig> bullgard4, foreign versions don't have text editors?
[03:52] <ioioioioiiiio> ah ok, thanks hopefully i dont have to totally reinstall :(
[03:52] <orudie> macogw, i am downloading the iso, should i burn it and the first thing i do is boot with that iso?
[03:52] <{fe|feL}> i have made that integration check and it said error in 1 file, so should i re burn it again
[03:52] <macogw> orudie: yes
[03:52] <edtech> since I ought not paste them here, what can I do?
[03:52] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, yes
[03:52] <bullgard4> bruenig: Foreign versions do have other than English names. I want to know the English name.
[03:53] <bruenig> bullgard4, you are confusing
[03:53] <{fe|feL}> ok, i am doing it know using 8 or 6 x speed
[03:53] <orudie> macogw, ok, i hope it is easy to use, i am not familiar with linux or command line at all
[03:53] <macogw> orudie: if you cant find the installer on the disk (if i recall correctly, that disk is a bit confusing on menus), once you get to ubuntu, install grub
[03:53] <{fe|feL}> what if there is another error
[03:53] <{fe|feL}> what speed do u recomed
[03:53] <palintheus> bullgard4, can you paste the contents into translate.google.com
[03:53] <{fe|feL}> i have till 1X
[03:53] <{fe|feL}> 1x*
[03:53] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, slower the better, if there is an error at that speed, you may want to try a different computer
[03:54] <marc__> is there a way to extract .rar files in ubuntu?
[03:54] <bruenig> !unrar | marc__
[03:54] <ubotu> marc__: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:54] <Pelo> marC--,  sudo apt-get install unrar
[03:54] <orudie> macogw, so i should use this disk to boot into ubuntu, and then install grub in ubuntu?
[03:54] <edtech> Is there a way to fix dependencies manually?
[03:54] <bruenig> edtech, install them all
[03:54] <macogw> orudie: if you cant find the install thing on the disk, yeah, that should work
[03:54] <Glave> how can I find out which drive is attached to ATA9 ?
[03:54] <{fe|feL}> i have no other computers except this one, plus who by the hell will let me setup an OS on his/her pc
[03:54] <edtech> all what?
[03:54] <inventorgp> Glave: go to synaptic package manager.. and search for .rar
[03:54] <bruenig> edtech, all the dependencies
[03:55] <orudie> macogw thanx i'll try that right now
[03:55] <orudie> davai bro
[03:55] <{fe|feL}> anyway i'll try this one then i'll burn it using 1x if all didn't work
[03:55] <edtech> one at a time, I gather.
[03:55] <{fe|feL}> i'll bye the CD
[03:55] <Glave> inventorgp: ummm and that will do nothing to help
[03:55] <bruenig> edtech, however you want to do it
[03:55] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, not install it on another pc, burn the disk on another pc
[03:55] <tengulre> hi,all
[03:55] <Pelo> !install |{fe|fel} you can install in other ways
[03:55] <ubotu> {fe|fel} you can install in other ways: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[03:55] <macogw> edtech: you can list them at the end of "sudo apt-get install ...."
[03:55] <tengulre> how to config a 3D desktop?
[03:55] <{fe|feL}> ah-ha
[03:55] <exyan> so no ideas where to add my xset options :/?
[03:56] <macogw> tengulre: #ubuntu-effects
[03:56] <cafuego> Go to ikea, purchase flatpack desk, use allen key to turn into 3d desktop.
[03:56] <{fe|feL}> thx ubotu for da sites
[03:56] <trend> whats up pimps
[03:56] <inventorgp> Tengulre: google Beryl
[03:56] <{fe|feL}> i'll check them out
[03:56] <bruenig> !gtfo | trend
[03:56] <ubotu> trend: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:57] <tengulre> Beryl?
[03:58] <pawan> kenel panic not syncing
[03:58] <inventorgp> Beryl is one of the 3D desktops
[03:58] <edtech> darn nothing is working
[03:58] <{fe|feL}> does ubuntu works on ps3
[03:58] <{fe|feL}> :S
[03:58] <inventorgp> Compiz is the other
[03:58] <{fe|feL}> :s
[03:58] <edtech> I cant even autoremove
[03:58] <inventorgp> felfel: it does run on PS3 tho I haven't tried it myself
[03:58] <{fe|feL}> WOW
[03:59] <{fe|feL}> amazin it is!
[03:59] <{fe|feL}> ok
[03:59] <{fe|feL}> new cd is out
[03:59] <pawan> vfs unable to mount root file system on unkown block
[03:59] <{fe|feL}> gonna check it then comesback
[03:59] <inventorgp> felfel: on;y because of $$$ and it looks like a cheese sandwhich maker :P
[03:59] <inventorgp> *only
[03:59] <{fe|feL}> bbye
[03:59] <sacamano> whats a good (easy) DVD ripping program (preferably GUI) for Ubuntu?
[03:59] <sacamano> movie
[04:00] <eno__> Hello, all.
[04:00] <inventorgp> sacamano: thoggen is a good ripper, but it rips into .ogg
[04:00] <inventorgp> hi
[04:00] <palintheus> !hello | eno__
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <lockd> does anyone know why Xorg or most X servers hate latency?
[04:00] <Glave> anyone know how I can determine the hd serial (or which hd) is attached to ATA9 ?
[04:00] <lockd> and is there a way to fix this problem both remotely and locally?
[04:00] <pawan> how to repair kernel
[04:00] <palintheus> !hi | eno__
[04:00] <ubotu> eno__: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:01] <cparker> I'm trying to set up WPA on Ubuntu Feisty... the Wiki howto doesn't seem to help. Does anyone here have WPA working with madwifi?
[04:01] <dvshadow> i'm about to switch to ubuntu, and i know its a ballpark question, but does anyone know if wlan-ng will compile with the linksys wpc11 v2
[04:01] <eno__> Would anyone know a good channel /website to get myself up and running coding in C with Ubuntu?  I have not done this since Uni, but I am taking another course in the fall and want practise.
[04:01] <inventorgp> Xorg.. ugh...
[04:01] <lockd> inventorgp: is there an alternative?
[04:02] <inventorgp> umm...
[04:02] <UnluckyMike> is there a way to add a launcher to the menu by the command line instead of using "edit Menus"
[04:02] <Pelo> eno__,  ##c
[04:02] <Sevk> Have any software like QQ's group talk,include picture send function
[04:02] <lockd> inventorgp: thought xfree86 was deprecated
[04:02] <eno__> thanks pelo
[04:02] <bullgard4> palintheus: I have done as you advised me. I have obtained a translation into English. But I am not sure that Google translated correctly. In the past I experienced personally that Google translations often were wrong. -- Do you personally have Nautilus operational on your Ubuntu in this moment?
[04:02] <inventorgp> lockd: was this about Xorg??
[04:03] <lockd> inventorgp: yes
[04:03] <inventorgp> lockd: Xorg is the way..:)
[04:03] <palintheus> bullgard, yeah
[04:03] <inventorgp> lockd: Xorg is a bit fiddly tho
[04:04] <lockd> inventorgp: well, now I at least know I need better remote support
[04:04] <rpedro> bullgard4: here's another good translation site (for small stuff) http://www.freetranslation.com
[04:04] <lockd> inventorgp: I heard of freenx and vnc, and they are the only 2 things which have an ack-forging proxy
[04:04] <inventorgp> heh heh... sorry lockd..
[04:05] <inventorgp> hmm...
[04:05] <dvshadow> i think i might give ubuntu a try
[04:05] <inventorgp> lockd: what are you going to use the vnc for?
[04:06] <lockd> inventorgp: though freenx is closed source, except for a few and far between client which can't seem to connect (and does not try)
[04:06] <Rprp> hmm, how can i convert .srt subtitles to .ifo?
[04:06] <dvshadow> ive never done a full install of ubuntu and it seems incredibly easy
[04:06] <lockd> inventorgp: connecting through high-latency network
[04:06] <inventorgp> hmm...
[04:06] <Pelo> dvs01,  don't it's a trap to keep you from buying Vista
[04:06] <bullgard4> rpedro: I would rather have an American or English Ubuntu user to have a short look onto Nautilus than to rely on another translation site.
[04:06] <inventorgp> lockd: ok
[04:06] <eugman> How do I make it so I can have a ssession option be running just one GUI program?
[04:07] <meister__> 12chan.org
[04:07] <meister__> j irc.12chan.org
[04:07] <{fe|feL}> back n didn't succed in doing it
[04:07] <lufthanza> TBotNik: Does your X work now?
[04:07] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, did it error on the cd check again?
[04:07] <TBotNik> no
[04:07] <inventorgp> lockd: I haven't do much, well anything with vnc, because I need more pc's!!
[04:07] <{fe|feL}> yup
[04:07] <blazemonger> clamav wont install properly
[04:08] <blazemonger> i dont udnerstand the chroot stuff
[04:08] <macogw> {fe|feL}: maybe your cd drive sucks
[04:08] <{fe|feL}> LG
[04:08] <inventorgp> blazemonger: I had the same problem... with clamav...
[04:08] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, hmmm, have you ran a memory check on your system. and like macogw says, it may be your drive
[04:08] <TBotNik> lufthanza: Trying to get help on #xorg, did lots of research.  Switched to Diamond Stealth 64 VIC, but seeing what memory I have.
[04:08] <Pelo> {fe|feL}, I'm on my 3rd LG dvd-rw,   they only last about 1 year
[04:09] <{fe|feL}> memory check, it might take over an hour
[04:09] <macogw> inventorgp: doesnt it only install the command line one first, and you have to install the gui separate?
[04:09] <blazemonger> inventorgp:how do i fix it
[04:09] <lockd> Has anyone at all used DXCP, differential x compression protocol?
[04:09] <blazemonger> i think that's the fix
[04:09] <blazemonger> i dont understand the chroot stuff
[04:09] <{fe|feL}> i like cd more than dvd
[04:09] <lockd> it's deprecated but still seems that it exists
[04:09] <inventorgp> felfel: judt do a mem check it might be heplful... maybe
[04:09] <Pelo> how long is a memtest suppose to take ?  ball parc, for 1 gig of RAM
[04:09] <macogw> lockd: nope, i think X-forwarding is more common
[04:09] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, if your memory is bad though, it may be worth the hour, and if you take a break you might have an epiphany
[04:10] <{fe|feL}> i have 512MB RAM
[04:10] <inventorgp> macogw: dunno, I installed it via terminal.. but never got it running....
[04:10] <lockd> macogw: eh?
[04:10] <{fe|feL}> doesn't it requires only 128
[04:10] <inventorgp> blazemonger: I'm not quite sure how to fix it
[04:10] <lockd> macogw: how does that solve the problem of requiring too many acks
[04:10] <exyan> how do I change the gnome menu icon :/?
[04:11] <TBotNik> lufthanza: Course not getting any response there.  Hey inventorgp & {fe|feL} what mem test?  How do I test mem on VIC?
[04:11] <{fe|feL}> no idea
[04:11] <lockd> macogw: it would be cool if you could run a version of X that does not even send ack packets for useless stuff
[04:11] <inventorgp> lol
[04:11] <macogw> lockd: idk you just asked if anyone knows about that other way, and i said i think X forwarding is usually used instead
[04:11] <{fe|feL}> i am still brand new in this
[04:11] <argotvisual> hello
[04:11] <lockd> macogw: yeah, because of "easiness"
[04:12] <lockd> macogw: and people with too good of net connection
[04:12] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, but if you have bad memory it could cause all kinds of problems, and with 512 it shouldnt take that long, i think
[04:12] <Pelo> {fe|feL},  no kidding ? we hadn'T noticed
[04:12] <Pelo> bbl
[04:12] <lattera> in order to boot the install cd, I need to load the piix driver at boot-time (in the grub menu) because ubuntu doesn't do it for me
[04:12] <lattera> how do I do that?
[04:12] <inventorgp> I cant remember where the mem test is... I've been using COUGH COUGH windows coughity cough
[04:12] <{fe|feL}> ok, i'll do that mem check
[04:12] <macogw> lattera: there's a boot options thing on the cd's splash screen
[04:12] <{fe|feL}> {} {}  later palintheus, n don't leave
[04:13] <{fe|feL}> pleaaaaaaaaaaaase
[04:13] <TBotNik> lufthanza {fe|feL} inventorgp: Hey new to ubuntu also.  This "sudo" thing throws me.  Used to just issuing cmds
[04:13] <lattera> yeah, but what do I type for ubuntu to load the driver?
[04:13] <macogw> !sudo | TBotNik
[04:13] <ubotu> TBotNik: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:13] <bruenig> !sudo | TBotNik
[04:13] <palintheus> {fe|feL}, ill try
[04:13] <{fe|feL}> thx
[04:13] <macogw> bruenig: beat
[04:13] <ectospasm> Pelo: memtest always loops, I usually run it overnight to be sure it goes through all it's tests... It usually gets into the 3rd pass by morning
[04:13] <Acidz0r> macogw, It did work with the modeline, thanks for the help.
[04:13] <ectospasm> and that's with 2GB RAM
[04:13] <inventorgp> TBotNik: no I've been uing ubuntu for like 1 and a half years
[04:14] <argotvisual> This afternoon AVG located the Win32/PolyCrypt virus in my Ubuntu filesystem but Clamav not confirmed it.Could be a false positive or a rare Linux virus infection?
[04:14] <bruenig> inventorgp, haven't moved on yet?
[04:14] <macogw> lattera: oh...um...idk. it might not be a boot option or it might be.  if its able to boot without it, you can add it to init
[04:14] <macogw> argotvisual: it wouldnt be a linux infection
[04:14] <cparker> Does anyone know why WPA wouldn't show up in Network Manager?
[04:14] <TBotNik> macogw: Yeah and sudo -s puts you at root so why sudo from there?
[04:14] <macogw> argotvisual: it would be "it exists on your linux file system and doesn't do anything"
[04:14] <inventorgp> TBotNik: you pretty much type sudo infront of *nearly* everything like sudo apt-get install package_name
[04:14] <lattera> yeah, I try to add it, but then when I run the init script, it complains that stuff is already running
[04:14] <macogw> TBotNik: actually it makes the shell be all sudo.  sudo -i gives you a root environment
[04:14] <lattera> that /proc is already mounted/etc
[04:15] <inventorgp> bruenig: what do you mean??
[04:15] <macogw> TBotNik: if you've already sudo -i'd or -s'd or sudo su or sudo su - 'd you dont need to sudo the commands after it
[04:15] <onexused> !dialup
[04:15] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[04:15] <TBotNik> All: Hey! I understand, not really knocking it, just used to something diff
[04:15] <blazemonger> http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.rc/msg/491d96a77ebfbba2
[04:15] <inventorgp> macogw: whoops... forgot that its sudo -i that makes you root.. lol
[04:15] <jkthecjer> hey folks
[04:16] <macogw> TBotNik: are you used to a different unix?
[04:16] <argotvisual> macogw: thanks
[04:16] <sparr> I --force'd a package to install despite broken dependencies.  How can I tell apt to ignore those broken dependencies as I do other things?
[04:16] <inventorgp> bruenig: what do you mean??
[04:16] <bruenig> inventorgp, while good for new people, long term use for someone who knows what they are doing which I assume you do now from your 1.5 years gets tiresome
[04:16] <Solpex> !apt-get > Solpex
[04:16] <TBotNik> Red Hat, Sun and Gentoo, little knoppix AIX and HPux
[04:16] <newbie07> hello
[04:16] <jkthecjer> so hows this for weird: i am using the internet through my wireless router right now, but i am unable to ping the gateway (<IP_ADDRESS>) is get back Destination Host Unreachable, WTF!
[04:16] <P0ldy_> bruenig: debatable.
[04:16] <argotvisual> bye
[04:17] <TBotNik> Most, not all, just log to root to admin.
[04:17] <bruenig> P0ldy_, in terms of maintenance, the upgrades and such
[04:17] <inventorgp> bruenig: lol.. I get forget stuff everynow and then.. especially if I dont keep practicing what I know..
[04:17] <newbie07> did anyone set up a dual boot with vista and feisty?
[04:17] <Glave> how can you determine what ATA9 would map to? My kern.log is spitting out errors, but I can't digure out where to determine which drive it actually is
[04:17] <TBotNik> All: anyway still trying to get X.win to work.
[04:17] <dowdle> Quick question... what is the command on Ubuntu latest release... to reconfigure X?  Is there a tool to run from the console?
[04:17] <macogw> bruenig: ive used it for a year and tried other distros, but i like apt more than other package managers, so i stick with ubuntu.  for a minimal install on an old box, i used debian though
[04:17] <Falstius> newbie07: yes ... It isn't really any different than other dual boot setups.
[04:18] <bruenig> macogw, the discrete releases are just too much
[04:18] <nickrud> TBotNik, have you tried the old tried & true dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ?
[04:18] <macogw> dowdle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:18] <TBotNik> All: Still did not get response from #xorg, they are asleep, I guess
[04:18] <inventorgp> macogw: I agree like apt as well.. better than yum or yast which ever one it is.. lol
[04:18] <blazemonger> from there i dont know about the chroot command
[04:18] <macogw> inventorgp: theyre both slow, same with portage
[04:19] <newbie07> any mods in here
[04:19] <macogw> newbie07: plenty
[04:19] <lattera> is there a way to open iso files as read/write?
[04:19] <dowdle> macogw: Thank you.  My Ubuntu using friend is trying it now.
[04:19] <inventorgp> macogw: gentoo uuuugh
[04:19] <bruenig> macogw, pacman though is the best
[04:19] <macogw> bruenig: what distro uses that?
[04:19] <Nicark> archlinux
[04:19] <macogw> bruenig: i hear the rpath (i think?) one is nice
[04:19] <bruenig> macogw, arch
[04:19] <macogw> er no not rpath
[04:19] <blazemonger> hello
[04:19] <macogw> what has coronary?
[04:20] <kitche> macogw: rpath and it's like a distcc distro :)
[04:20] <macogw> bruenig: ill try it some time
[04:20] <newbie07> ok, after installing and upgrading feisty, firefox doesn't automatically install extensions anymore, it asks me to download an xpi file.  What do i do?
[04:20] <macogw> kitche: distcc?
[04:20] <zerboxx> Can someone help me with fixing GRUB?
[04:20] <blazemonger> http://pastebin.com/m1270f114
[04:20] <bruenig> macogw, frugalware also uses it, but frugalware is really poor
[04:20] <TBotNik> nickrud: Doesn't work, been doing that since around 11 am and still no progress.  Know the problem is between VIC and Monitor defs.  AMW MR19C-AB mon run vert at 70-75Hz which is not norm.  Found that out when had a Gentoo box on it.  Use KVM to swith 4 boxes.
[04:20] <kitche> macogw: it uses a distrubed compile system and hands you the binary from it
[04:20] <Falstius> newbie07: if you download the xpi file and then open it with firefox will it install? (xpi are plugins)
[04:20] <PetarM> hi
[04:20] <macogw> kitche: so like portage but not slooooooow?
[04:21] <LinuxFanboy> has anyone tried virtualbox with ubuntu 7.04? I keep getting a black blank screen when trying to install windows xp iso
[04:21] <nickrud> TBotNik, have you tried using your gentoo xorg?
[04:21] <W4r10xz> How do i hack in ubuntu?
[04:21] <orudie> my windows and ubuntu master boot record is damaged, someone recommended super grub which completely destroyed my mbr, does anyone have a solution to this (i can now only boot either operating system with this super grub bootable cd)
[04:21] <newbie07> falstius, I'll give it a try
[04:21] <macogw> LinuxFanboy: disable desktop effects / beryl if theyre on
[04:21] <inventorgp> macogw: lol... slooooooow...
[04:21] <Floker> W4r10xz, are you serious?
[04:21] <zerboxx> Can someone please help me fix GRUB?
[04:21] <TBotNik> nickrud: Get closest when I set vert to 60, but right now the mem is screwing me giving errors resulting in "No good config" final error
[04:21] <LinuxFanboy> macogw ok ill try that thanks
[04:21] <PetarM> how can i change the keyboard configuration? i want to switch from switzerland's keyboard to croatian keyboard, without restarting
[04:21] <macogw> LinuxFanboy: ive done it, but it was in like....er...whenever the heck horikawa-san's windows had a BSOD...maybe march
[04:21] <Falstius> !grub > orudie
[04:22] <W4r10xz> Floker: y? is it incredibly EZ?
[04:22] <LinuxFanboy> bout fed up with beryl anyway
[04:22] <ToddEDM> im lookin for a little help.... whenever i put a DVD in the drive on my laptop here, ubuntu freezes for about 5 seconds, every 10 seconds
[04:22] <newbie07> falstius thanks it works
[04:22] <macogw> LinuxFanboy: in which case, that was edgy, nevermind
[04:22] <phenom> Could any one recommend any good data recovery programs or noteworthy methods of recovering deleted files?
[04:22] <orudie> Falstius, ? what ?
[04:22] <TBotNik> nickrud: G box not on system anymore, so can't ref it.
[04:22] <Floker> W4r10xz, it is virtually impossible
[04:22] <nickrud> TBotNik, eh. what's the /var/log/Xorg.0.log look like?
[04:22] <LinuxFanboy> lol ok
[04:22] <arooni> how do i nstall java runt itme enviornment
[04:22] <arooni> none of this gnu stuff
[04:22] <zerboxx> !grub
[04:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:22] <orudie> macogw, grub destroyed my mbr completely
[04:22] <arooni> tehe real deal
[04:22] <newbie07> can i delete the xpi file after firefox installs it or should i keep it in a folder?
[04:22] <orudie> !grub
[04:22] <macogw> LinuxFanboy: but still, if your graphics card cant handle it, it might go like that
[04:22] <nickrud> TBotNik, not saying I'm #xorg material, but I've fixed a few :)
[04:22] <Falstius> orudie: the message ubotu should have sent you has directions for fixing grub after installing windows breaks it, but they really should work for almost any reason grub is broken.
[04:23] <macogw> orudie: grub installs itself on the mbr
[04:23] <und3rtug4> lool, beware ..... the ubuntu hackers are coming.... :\
[04:23] <macogw> orudie: and replaces windows's bootloader
[04:23] <phenom> !backup
[04:23] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[04:23] <und3rtug4> damn noobs!
[04:23] <W4r10xz> Flocker: R u sure? Im in ur yahoo... stealing ur chatz and they said it is easy in the Hax0r chat r00mz
[04:23] <TBotNik> nickrud: have pastebin at http://paste.stgraber.org/2401 (xorg.conf) & /2402 (log)
[04:23] <Falstius> newbie07: I don't know why it didn't ask you to install the xpi file when you click the link, maybe your settings or maybe the link is screwy.
[04:23] <macogw> orudie: then puts ubuntu and windows boot settings into itself
[04:23] <arooni> anyone know how do install java on ubuntu
[04:23] <TBotNik> nickrud: can repaste lastest if you'll hold a min
[04:24] <h3lmut> hey -- my wireless driver seems to be loading correct (zd1211rw), eth1 is up, but iwconfig has the rate locked at 1mbps and doesn't seem to be picking up my AP (which is set open). what should i be poking at? i've got a desktop sitting next to it with the same chipset wireless working fine
[04:24] <macogw> arooni: sudo aptitude install sun-java-jdk if for devel or -jre for usage
[04:24] <newbie07> falstius i don't know either, before i upgraded my packages it was fine but not after i upgraded
[04:24] <noelferreira> how can i make a script to shutdown my pc without asking me for root password?
[04:24] <macogw> arooni: then "sudo update-alternatives --config java" to set it to use Sun Java instead of Eclipse's older java
[04:24] <orudie> macogw, the grub window shows when the pc is loading, it shows the options which OS i want to boot, it shows the detail list of installed operating systems, when i choose any of them, it returns an error
[04:24] <zerboxx> Falstius: Is it ok if when I fdisk i see /dev/sda and not hda?
[04:24] <macogw> orudie: oh well telling us which error would help
[04:24] <orudie> macogw, the only way i am able to load windows or ubuntu is through that iso cd i downloaded
[04:24] <ToddEDM> does anyoen know how to fix this freezing up of my machine, it only happenes after i put a DVD or CD, and actually even SD cards
[04:24] <xrisp> does anyone know how and where to get intel chipset drivers for ubuntu?
[04:25] <arooni> E: Couldn't find package sun-java-jre
[04:25] <orudie> macogw, ERROR 21 operating system not found
[04:25] <macogw> xrisp: they should be included
[04:25] <macogw> arooni: sun-java6-jre sorry
[04:25] <inventorgp> ToddEDM: do you get 100% cpu??
[04:25] <Falstius> zerboxx: depending on your motherboard, feisty will treat an IDE (PATA) drive as either hda or sda.  SATA drives will always be sd*
[04:25] <macogw> orudie: ok then the (hd0,0) or whatever part is probably wrong
[04:25] <ToddEDM> inventor... seems like it
[04:25] <macogw> orudie: when you get to the "pick an os" part, highlight ubuntu and hit 'e'
[04:26] <xrisp> i was told i need to update my driver to run beryl
[04:26] <orudie> macogw, ok and what is it going to do?
[04:26] <exyan> where are the gnome startup scripts? :/
[04:26] <inventorgp> ToddEDM: a lot of people have the 100% cpu thing on doing a lot of actions...
[04:26] <macogw> xrisp: if its an x3000, you need xserver-xorg-video-intel insted of xserver-xorg-video-i810 but otherwise you should be fine
[04:26] <bruenig> exyan, /usr/bin
[04:26] <macogw> orudie: it lets you edit it
[04:26] <TBotNik> nickrud: Updated to /2405 (log) /2406 (xorg.conf)
[04:26] <macogw> orudie: windows is first partition and ubuntu is 2nd, right?
[04:26] <orudie> macogw, thanx let me try that
[04:26] <macogw> orudie: and you only have 1 hard drive?
[04:26] <exyan> bruenig: I mean where can I add skype to start on login ;)
[04:27] <noelferreira> how can i make a script to shutdown my pc without asking me for root password?
[04:27] <orudie> macogw, windows 1st partition, ubuntu 2nd, no i have more hard drives
[04:27] <infopirate> hey, if anyone is around i need help, here is the problem...
[04:27] <bruenig> exyan, oh, well that is not what you asked, system>preferences>sessions
[04:27] <macogw> orudie: is it first hard drive?
[04:27] <infopirate> im on a friend of mine's lappy right now running it from an ubuntu live cd
[04:27] <bruenig> noelferreira, write the script, and then add a NOPASSWD exception in sudoers and run it with sudo
[04:27] <macogw> exyan: system > pref > sessions
[04:27] <xrisp> macogw: yea thats what i got the i810 what was it that i needed/
[04:27] <macogw> oh im slow
[04:27] <orudie> macogw, first on SATA controller, the other hard drives are IDE
[04:27] <ToddEDM> i dont know, but this is damn annoying
[04:27] <macogw> xrisp: -intel
[04:28] <infopirate> what i need to do is get the hdd mounted so i can copy the files from the hdd  before i format it
[04:28] <infopirate> any ideas how i go about doing that?
[04:28] <orudie> macogw, should i disconnect the IDE controller hard drives before fixing grub?
[04:28] <exyan> bruenig: I know ;))
[04:28] <macogw> orudie: is ubuntu/win on the first hard drive?
[04:28] <infopirate> ty ahead of time
[04:28] <noelferreira> bruenig: where's sudoers file?
[04:28] <phenom> Anyone have experience/problems installing debian anything, dual-boot on thinkpads?
[04:28] <bruenig> noelferreira, you want to edit it with sudo visudo so that it checks for sanity
[04:28] <deathnall> hey guys i have a zip file which i extracted to desktop. how do i install it from here?
[04:28] <epp> phenom, i have a thinkpad
[04:28] <infopirate> windows xp pro is on the hdd btw, thus ntfs partition
[04:28] <macogw> orudie: first hard drive is hd0 then after the comma is partition number, starting from 0, so first partition is 0 and 2nd is 1
[04:28] <bruenig> deathnall, depends
[04:28] <orudie> macogw, its on the SATA controller, its 1st on the SATA, there are 4 SATA controllers and 2 EDI controllers
[04:28] <bruenig> deathnall, consul the documentation for that particular application
[04:29] <deathnall> on what brunenig?
[04:29] <zerboxx> Falstius: When I check grub (I just did a windows install) it says "hd0" what should I cha?
[04:29] <macogw> orudie: try playing around with those numbers a bit and something should work
[04:29] <deathnall> i did and it doesnt say
[04:29] <deathnall> its a game called open arena
[04:29] <jmhodges> hey, i'm a fool.  my googling tells me that freeimage is available in the universe repos for feisty, but apt-get install isn't seeing it
[04:29] <orudie> macogw ok thanx
[04:29] <zerboxx> Falstius: *sorry, what should I do if grub says hd0?
[04:29] <TBotNik> nickrud: Also tried the recovery at: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/10535, but no dice. But I'm back to text mode now!
[04:29] <nickrud> TBotNik, looking for monitor specs
[04:29] <phiqtion> what's the best filesystem to hold mp3's ?
[04:29] <xrisp> macgow:yes i have the intel i810 drive will that run beryl i was told it wont because it doesnt support gl?
[04:29] <deathnall> please any help would be great
[04:30] <bullgard4> rpedro: Both Google and freetranslations.com translated wrongly in this particular Ubuntu case. Both websites do not care enough about the context (or let call it the tranlation environment).
[04:30] <infopirate> is anyone not busy
[04:30] <phenom> bullgard4: try google translation
[04:30] <TBotNik> nickrud: I only found one spec on it which gave 1280x1024 as top limit with no Hz or Vert
[04:30] <phenom> Works nice but do NOT AUTO translate anything, they will ban your ip. :)
[04:30] <blazemonger> how do i install clamav in ubuntu?
[04:30] <nickrud> TBotNik, that's pretty much what I'm seeing. Do you know the manufacturer?
[04:31] <phiqtion> what's the best filesystem to hold mp3's ?
[04:31] <infopirate> how do i mount an ntfs filesystem from a live cd???
[04:31] <infopirate> plz and ty
[04:31] <TBotNik> nickrud: Bought it at either Fry's or Micro Center, and haven't found OEM page for it.
[04:31] <phenom> bullgard4: Googles html output is easy to parse as well.
[04:31] <deathnall> ok can anyone help me install an extracted zip file please? i extracted it to my desktop but i dont know what to do with it now
[04:31] <navets> how do you create a gradient with gimp
[04:31] <bullgard4> phenom: I have tried Google translation. It proved wrong. But OP palintheus here in the channel helped me out. So I do not help any more.
[04:32] <infopirate> how do u mount an ntfs filesystem froma live cd??
[04:32] <phenom> deathnall: Ooen Synaptic, find it, mark it for install,, install.
[04:32] <macogw> infopirate: same way you do on an installed system
[04:32] <phenom> bullgard4: is there a better online service than google?
[04:32] <phenom> :)
[04:32] <h3lmut> totally stumped here: wireless driver appears to load, ethX interface is up, and yet i can't connect to the AP (have set essid, it won't let me set channel)
[04:33] <deathnall> ummm  Ooen Synaptic....did i mention im a noob
[04:33] <phenom> bullgard4: one that had arabic? I'll script up another translator. :)
[04:33] <macogw> h3lmut: got encryption?
[04:33] <RoAkSoAx> infopirate: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hd* /mount/point
[04:33] <h3lmut> mac - nope
[04:33] <infopirate> ty
[04:33] <infopirate> roaksoax
[04:34] <infopirate> :)
[04:34] <phenom> deathnall: System> administration > Synaptic.
[04:34] <deathnall> ok i downloaded openarena before but its an old one
[04:34] <bullgard4> phenom: It depends on the circumstances. In many special areas there are better translator services available than Google. ( I am speaking about translations from and to German.)
[04:34] <RoAkSoAx> infopirate, remember to use SUDO before mount
[04:34] <deathnall> phenom i did that mate. but i just got a new one
[04:34] <TBotNik> nickrud: Found mon spec at: http://shop2.outpost.com/product/5212587?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
[04:34] <deathnall> more updated
[04:34] <galador> whois Aoi
[04:34] <galador> Crap, forgot the /
[04:34] <galador> =/
[04:35] <phenom> bullgard4: got ya :)
[04:35] <nickrud> TBotNik, plug those numbers into the horz & vert
[04:35] <infopirate> ok wtf
[04:35] <phenom> deathnall: what do you mean you have a more updated one?
[04:35] <infopirate> it is saying that hda* does not exist
[04:35] <phenom> new one rather*
[04:35] <infopirate> i tried hda0 hda1 hda2
[04:35] <infopirate> etc..
[04:35] <jetscreamer> next time try hwinfo --monitor
[04:35] <infopirate> what is wrong
[04:35] <newbie07> when vista and feisty is dual booted, does vista have access to feisty and vice versa?
[04:35] <jetscreamer> apt-get install it first
[04:36] <jetscreamer> no and yes
[04:36] <TBotNik> nickrud: brb, working
[04:36] <jetscreamer> in that order
[04:36] <nickrud> jetscreamer, nice command, thanks
[04:36] <deathnall> ok i went to there site and i have an old version
[04:36] <deathnall> so i manually d-loaded it
[04:36] <jetscreamer> nickrud: sometimes works better when xorg isn't running.. sometimes doesn't matter
[04:36] <deathnall> look , all i wana do is install it from the zip file i have
[04:36] <deathnall> please
[04:36] <phenom> deathnall: when you open synaptic, hit reload(I don;t think you need to though), then search for your package, and mark to install it.
[04:36] <deathnall> any ideas at all?
[04:37] <nickrud> jetscreamer, his x isn't working at all, so ...
[04:37] <newbie07> when vista and feisty is dual booted, does vista have access to feisty and vice versa?
[04:37] <deathnall> i have already installed it but i found a newer version online
[04:37] <jetscreamer> i already answered that newbie07
[04:37] <jetscreamer> no and yes
[04:37] <jetscreamer> in that order
[04:37] <newbie07> oh lol
[04:37] <Myrtti> deathnall: unless you really really need the features of the new version, stick to the one you've got installed via package management
[04:38] <jetscreamer> newbie07: i'm not sure what ext fs drivers may be available for vista
[04:38] <deathnall> i do yes need them
[04:38] <jetscreamer> newbie07: but you can use explore2fs for sure in w2k and xp
[04:38] <deathnall> cos i wan to learn how to do the zips
[04:38] <TBotNik> nickrud: Still got errors.  Reposted at: http://paste.stgraber.org/2407
[04:38] <{fe|feL}> i am baaaaaack
[04:38] <newbie07> jetscreamer, thats ok i actually like it that way i don't really need access to it
[04:38] <arooni> can someone help me to get the java plugin fore firefox working (i've already installed java-6-jre)... but webex is still saying i dont have it installed
[04:38] <newbie07> just checking to make sure
[04:38] <jetscreamer> newbie07: what i used to do is have a vfat/fat32 partiton for a kind of 'dmz'
[04:38] <infopirate> why is this mount command not working
[04:39] <{fe|feL}> and no errors are there
[04:39] <infopirate> it says hda0 or hda1 or hda2 does not exist
[04:39] <infopirate> wtf?
[04:39] <jetscreamer> try sda
[04:39] <macogw> !latest | deathnall
[04:39] <ubotu> deathnall: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:39] <infopirate> ok ty
[04:39] <jetscreamer> and it's not 0.. sda1, sda2...
[04:39] <macogw> arooni: sun-java6-plugin
[04:39] <deathnall> no but beta testing helps them
[04:39] <jetscreamer> infopirate: fdisk -l
[04:39] <deathnall> so i want to help them
[04:39] <jetscreamer> for a list
[04:40] <macogw> deathnall: only beta test if you know what you're doing
[04:40] <deathnall> hi macogw
[04:40] <{fe|feL}> guyz u said there are other means to install the OS without the CD
[04:40] <RoAkSoAx> infopirate, try doing: sudo fdisk -l and see which one is your ntfs partition
[04:40] <nickrud> TBotNik, did you erase the video ram number?
[04:40] <macogw> {fe|feL}: pxe booting, i think... maybe a usb drive way too....
[04:40] <deathnall> no dude i mean i just want to learn how to install this thing lol. i have the file extracted and inside is a load of folders. i just want to install it
[04:40] <deathnall> i dont know how to
[04:40] <nickrud> TBotNik, around line 87
[04:40] <deathnall> yes im a noob but hey
[04:40] <jetscreamer> make make install ?
[04:40] <infopirate> hey
[04:40] <macogw> deathnall: check the README
[04:40] <{fe|feL}> i have no usb driver that takes 700mb
[04:41] <deathnall> we all are sometime right?
[04:41] <TBotNik> nickrud: corrected the "number" problem and "startx" reposted log at /2408
[04:41] <kemp> nope, did not work
[04:41] <deathnall> i did
[04:41] <deathnall> it said
[04:41] <phenom> deathnall: http://www.monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/#installing_with_terminal
[04:41] <{fe|feL}> only 64mb memory card
[04:41] <{fe|feL}> {H}E{H}E{H}E
[04:41] <infopirate> how do i look at folders with x windows as root???
[04:41] <newbie07> i dual booted vista and ubuntu, in that order, should i give ubuntu's partition a new drive letter?  Does that make a difference in any way?
[04:41] <macogw> infopirate: gksu nautilus
[04:41] <deathnall> you may need libopenal installed.
[04:41] <deathnall> thnakyou
[04:41] <infopirate> ???
[04:41] <macogw> newbie07: we dont use drive letters
[04:41] <infopirate> what does that mean
[04:41] <macogw> newbie07: and vista cant see ubuntu anyway
[04:41] <infopirate> i type that in terminal?
[04:41] <macogw> infopirate: yes
[04:41] <infopirate> or whaht?
[04:41] <infopirate> ok ty
[04:42] <newbie07> oh ok, as long as its secure and not accessible by vista
[04:42] <nickrud> TBotNik, post up the xorg.conf again
[04:42] <phenom> deathnall: compiling from source is not recommended, but if you absolutely need to, that link explains it.
[04:42] <{fe|feL}> why doesn't it wooooooooooooooooooooooooork
[04:42] <phenom> And remove whatever package you have before it, or your heading for trouble.
[04:42] <newbie07> is anyone familiar with tor and privoxy?
[04:43] <macogw> deathnall: yes we all start somewhere, but i for one didn't do any usage of unstable anything until i was sure i was functional enough in the terminal in case i hosed anything
[04:43] <john> hey, i'm having an issue with printing. my printer is on and plugged in. it's been recognized (correction brand and series) and installed by ubuntu. ubuntu even says it's "Ready" - it even lists my print jobs. yet my printer does nothing! :( can anyone please help me?
[04:43] <deathnall> well im a gambler
[04:43] <{fe|feL}> so guuuuyz, what am i to do now
[04:43] <deathnall> :)
[04:44] <{fe|feL}> stays on XP
[04:44] <jetscreamer> john: sounds like an hp
[04:44] <john> lexmark, actually. 3350
[04:44] <jetscreamer> {fe|feL}: goodbye-windows.com ? oops, not ubuntu...
[04:44] <phenom> gambler: remove the older version via aptitude remove blah first
[04:44] <ablyss> John, start of by doing a test page print, printing large graphics, html pages ect takes awhile w/ linux default printer drivers
[04:44] <{fe|feL}> wut
[04:44] <{fe|feL}> ????
[04:44] <TBotNik> nickrud: Found and fixed the "Jaton" prob and repost at 2409, reposting xorg.conf now
[04:44] <jetscreamer> ah lexmark.. no idea
[04:44] <macogw> jetscreamer: how does that sound like hp?  hp's do great.  i'm not surprised one bit to see the "lexmark" response as they suck on linux
[04:45] <Sergiu1> {fe|feL}  : what doesn't work?
[04:45] <{fe|feL}> the installation process
[04:45] <john> ablyss: i've tried. ubuntu says it's going to the printer, yet the printer doesn't respond at all. i've tried clicking the "test print" button as well as printing web pages
[04:45] <TBotNik> nickrud: xorg.conf at /2410
[04:45] <jetscreamer> macogw: because my hp did that until i told cups to use this mc:par:somethingsomething instead of lpt1  ...
[04:45] <Sergiu1> {fe|feL}  : what are you trying to install?
[04:45] <{fe|feL}> can't install the OS
[04:45] <jetscreamer> after that it worked fine
[04:45] <{fe|feL}> Ububtu
[04:45] <nickrud> TBotNik, instead of tracking down all those typos, save that xorg and do a dpkg-reconfigure -phigh again; we'll just plug in the values that need to change
[04:45] <{fe|feL}> Ubuntu
[04:45] <TBotNik> nickrud: I see there is no device "stylus"
[04:46] <Sergiu1> {fe|feL} : try the alternate cd ;)
[04:46] <Sergiu1> it's rocks
[04:46] <{fe|feL}> you mean redouwnloading 700MB
[04:46] <TBotNik> amen
[04:46] <newbie07> after dual booting, is there a way i can go back to vista's boot up device (i don't know the technical name of it) and "hide" ubuntu
[04:46] <ablyss> john, secondly if you got tired of waiting and tried to re-print and re-print several times.. your printer buffer has got a long que on top of the default linux print drivers being unearthly slow
[04:46] <{fe|feL}> isn't there a way to convert this cd to the alternate type
[04:47] <john> ablyss: no, i tried printing one item at a time. i waited for the list to clear before trying something else
[04:47] <jetscreamer> {fe|feL}: what is the one you have doing
[04:47] <ablyss> john, unplug printer to clear its memory and try to print a couple lines of text i.e., "hello world"
[04:47] <Sergiu1> {fe|feL} : nope
[04:47] <john> ablyss: ok, one sec.
[04:47] <deathnall> ooo i came so close
[04:47] <deathnall> i read the link u sent me mate
[04:47] <{fe|feL}> it is the regualr one
[04:47] <{fe|feL}> Live CD
[04:47] <jetscreamer> wht is it doing
[04:47] <newbie07> i just set up a dual boot, is there a way i can go back to vista's boot up device?
[04:48] <Sergiu1> {fe|feL} : you can requet free CDs if you have the slow bandwitch
[04:48] <Sergiu1> ;)
[04:48] <ToddEDM>  haldaemo .... what is this>??
[04:48] <Sergiu1> or buy them
[04:48] <jetscreamer> newbie07: you can but it won't know about linux
[04:48] <deathnall> ok so i did this .... i typed /home/deathnall/Desktop/openarena-0.7.0 but as soon as the blue screen came up it said could not load  default.cfg. what am i missing argghhhh
[04:48] <{fe|feL}> no but it takes 8h. to get downloaded
[04:48] <newbie07> ah
[04:48] <TBotNik> nickrud: rebooting so wait 1
[04:48] <jetscreamer> {fe|feL}: ok don't tell me why the cd you have isn't working
[04:48] <deathnall> sorry i typed /home/deathnall/Desktop/openarena-0.7.0/openarena.exe
[04:48] <macogw> newbie07: vista install disk, fixmbr to reinstall their bootloader, then find some way to tell ntldr that it's supposed to chainlink to grub for linux
[04:48] <{fe|feL}> O_o
[04:49] <jetscreamer> or what the error is
[04:49] <{fe|feL}> as u wish
[04:49] <macogw> {fe|feL}:  are you on dialup?
[04:49] <nephish> deathnall_: have you tried the .deb from getdeb ?
[04:49] <greengiant> ok so whos an expert with xorg?
[04:49] <{fe|feL}> no
[04:49] <newbie07> thanks, i'll do some research on it
[04:49] <macogw> greengiant: #xorg is full of 'em
[04:49] <{fe|feL}> adsl 256kbps
[04:49] <deathnall> wt hell lol. i have no clue what .deb is im really sorry im so new
[04:49] <greengiant> macogw: awesome
[04:49] <macogw> {fe|feL}: should only take an hour or two, id think...
[04:49] <macogw> deathnall: its like a .msi
[04:49] <jetscreamer> deathnall: ever heard of .rpm ? .deb in debian
[04:49] <dle> I was just trying to help a friend update his 6.06 system. However, running 'apt-get update' showed that all the package fetched were 404-ing.  these were the usual repositories, and they could be pinged.  Any ideas why this would happen?
[04:49] <{fe|feL}> you mean 7 to 8 hours
[04:50] <deathnall> no :(
[04:50] <john> ablyss: no luck
[04:50] <macogw> {fe|feL}: when i have like 200kb/s it takes me like 2 hours
[04:50] <nephish> there is a website called getdeb ( i think .org ) where you can search for some packages that are not part of apt repositories
[04:50] <orudie> macogw, hey, well it looks like it fixed the win XP mbr, but not the ubuntu
[04:50] <macogw> {fe|feL}: whether you're getting your full speed is another story though as i got 200kb/s with fiber optics...
[04:50] <{fe|feL}> i am downlaoding with 57-59 kb/s
[04:50] <ablyss> john, also worth mentioning ... best to use Gnome's printer configuration menu to setup your printer.
[04:50] <macogw> orudie: they dont have different mbrs
[04:50] <{fe|feL}> i mean 27-29
[04:50] <macogw> orudie: one hard drive, one mbr
[04:50] <TBotNik_u> nickrud: Yu there?
[04:50] <{fe|feL}> jetscreamer, c'mon
[04:50] <Sergiu1> {fe|feL} : start to download :D
[04:51] <orudie> macogw, what should i type when i press e
[04:51] <{fe|feL}> pleaaaase
[04:51] <nickrud> TBotNik, yup
[04:51] <TBotNik_u> nickrud: on G Box now
[04:51] <ablyss> john, verse something like KDE or xfce
[04:51] <TBotNik_u> still no x.win
[04:51] <jetscreamer> {fe|feL}: ok  tell me why the cd you have isn't working, what is it not doing
[04:51] <nephish> deathnall_: check it out, if i need a package that is not part of apt, which is rare, that is the first place i look, how long with ubuntu ?
[04:51] <greengiant> /leave
[04:51] <john> ablyss: i think that's what i used - i simply went dbl-clicked "New Printer" inside of Printing under Administration
[04:51] <jetscreamer> try /part greengiant
[04:51] <ablyss> john, you did okay then
[04:51] <{fe|feL}> after i downlaoded the iso i got it check and it is working 100%
[04:51] <TBotNik_u> nickrud: did you see anything in the .conf or log that would help?
[04:51] <john> ablyss: i'm using Gnome
[04:52] <ablyss> john, you might take a look at the system logs for any errors
[04:52] <macogw> deathnall: debs are packages for debian or ubuntu.  you install them with dpkg from command line or double click and GDebi will do it. they depend on each other though, because they share libraries, and that allows for smaller programs instead of like on other OS's where all the libraries are in every installer and you might have the same libraries installed 5 times wasting space
[04:52] <{fe|feL}> but when i burn it .. it does boot and i can choos one of the first 2 options
[04:52] <jetscreamer> {fe|feL}: what is the error
[04:52] <orudie> macogw, under root there was something like root (hd1,1) i tried changing it to (hd0,1) and it still says selected hard disk is not found
[04:52] <ablyss> john, other than that... has the printer worked before ?
[04:52] <nickrud> TBotNik, do dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg , and then post lspci , hwinfo --monitor , xorg.conf, and Xorg.0.log again.
[04:52] <john> ablyss: i was so impressed that it recognized the printer perfectly, too. even windows can't do that - i'd have to go to lexmark and download a 130mb file in windows...
[04:52] <{fe|feL}> but i can't find instal icon on the descktop
[04:52] <{fe|feL}> desktop
[04:52] <john> ablyss: yes, the printer has worked before.
[04:52] <jetscreamer> that's all?
[04:53] <macogw> orudie: root?
[04:53] <{fe|feL}> btw, every thing also doesn't work
[04:53] <macogw> orudie: lemme check mine
[04:53] <nickrud> TBotNik, a new baseline to work from
[04:53] <{fe|feL}> and it shows error messages about 5-8 ones
[04:53] <john> ablyss: it has a little screen on the printer, and it still says "Ready" - usually when it's about to print it says "Printing"
[04:53] <newbie07> is tor and privoxy part of feisty's repositories?
[04:53] <macogw> orudie: ok i see
[04:53] <jetscreamer> {fe|feL}: it's not the same as my error, :(
[04:53] <chikita> hello, printer print text ridicously small, what can i do?
[04:53] <{fe|feL}> O_o, why do u wanna it same as urs
[04:53] <orudie> macogw, those are the numbers you were talking about right
[04:53] <phenom> {fe|fel}: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2493&postcount=2
[04:54] <macogw> orudie: windows is probably ,0 and ubuntu is probably ,1 but if you created and removed and recreated the partition a few times, it might have a higher partition number
[04:54] <{fe|feL}> wha is it about phenom
[04:54] <{fe|feL}> ?
[04:54] <ablyss> john, okay.. i suggest checking system logs for errors.. and also checking the lexmark website for updated linux specific drivers
[04:54] <nickrud> TBotNik, back in 10, at work and some lite duties call
[04:54] <orudie> macogw, in hd(1,1) the first number is the hard drive # and the second is partition?
[04:54] <macogw> orudie: yes
[04:54] <orudie> ok
[04:54] <orudie> brb
[04:54] <Duke01234567> hello walking people my hd has fucked i can't format or install ubuntu e decide use the live cd but swap is not good space.. how i can set the ext3 bugued partition to swap temp ?
[04:54] <TBotNik_u> nickrud: go to #flood
[04:54] <Flannel> !language | Duke01234567
[04:55] <ubotu> Duke01234567: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:55] <phenom> {fe|fel}: A lil lit on installing ubuntu over the network and from hd.
[04:55] <john> ablyss: i disabled the two logging services, thinking i wouldn't actually be using it. i'll check lexmark
[04:55] <Duke01234567> sorry
[04:55] <{fe|feL}> phenom, can't understand a word from wut is writtin
[04:55] <{fe|feL}> as if i know what u r talkin about
[04:55] <john> ablyss: on a side note, when you mentioned hp before, is that an indicator that hp printers don't work well in linux?
[04:55] <deathnall> ok so dpkg. i typed into the terminal and then it just gives me a load of wierd options
[04:55] <deathnall> like flag value?
[04:55] <lockd> Duke01234567: you have to mkswap <drive>, but if you can't format it it's unlikely
[04:55] <deathnall> wtf is that lol
[04:55] <{fe|feL}> i am new here budy,. and never b4 used a linux
[04:55] <deathnall> this is so frustratiing
[04:55] <{fe|feL}> :D
[04:55] <ablyss> john, that was actually another person.. i never mentioned hp... sorry
[04:55] <deathnall> i have a unzipped file on my desktop and i cant install it
[04:56] <deathnall> nice
[04:56] <nephish> deathnall_: whats wrong?
[04:56] <deathnall> maybe its back to windows for me
[04:56] <nephish> openarena?
[04:56] <deathnall> i just have no clue what im doing
[04:56] <TBotNik> nickrud: Sorry went to #flood on U box
[04:56] <ablyss> john, on for the most part.. all printers regardless brand name.. suck on linux default drivers...
[04:56] <lockd> deathnall: what application?
[04:56] <nephish> deathnall_: patience, did you check getdeb yet ?
[04:56] <lockd> deathnall: we have no clue what you are trying to do
[04:56] <chikita> hello, printer print text ridicously small, what can i do?
[04:56] <macogw> {fe|feL}: most of this channel is new.  its the beginner channel, basically
[04:57] <{fe|feL}> hmmm
[04:57] <deathnall> lockd yes they do u dont
[04:57] <macogw> chikita: pick a bigger font size?
[04:57] <deathnall> getdeb let me try it
[04:57] <chikita> lol
[04:57] <lockd> deathnall: okay, maybe I just didn't scroll up enough
[04:57] <{fe|feL}> but everyone cd does woooooork, except mine with 8 error messages
[04:57] <{fe|feL}> grr
[04:57] <lockd> deathnall: what are you trying to install?
[04:57] <john> ablyss: lol, that sucks. i was really hoping using ubuntu full time when i went back to school. printing ability is kind of vital... hopefully i can get it to work.
[04:57] <ablyss> there is a enhanced linux print driver.. for a price on the cups web site.. i hard its worth it
[04:57] <macogw> chikita: you might have some setting set to squish to 1 page on something that should be 3 pages...
[04:57] <nephish> deathnall: check, i think its getdeb.org
[04:57] <chikita> im on font 11 Arial and it prints like 2
[04:57] <deathnall> i typed getdeb into terminal but unrec
[04:57] <macogw> nephish: it's .net i think
[04:58] <macogw> deathnall: its a website
[04:58] <nephish> ah
[04:58] <TBotNik_u> nickrud: Hey wanted to go to #flood so no traffic
[04:58] <deathnall> soz locld
[04:58] <Rprp> Does someone know how i can add .SRT subtitles to a movie?
[04:58] <chikita> rprp, use vlc player
[04:58] <nephish> deathnall: i installed openarena from there last week on my kids fiesty box
[04:58] <lockd> deathnall: still didn't mention what program it is that you are trying to get working
[04:58] <lockd> deathnall: oh, openarena?
[04:58] <deathnall> cool thnx
[04:58] <Rprp> chikita: i want to burn it ...
[04:58] <deathnall> i will check now
[04:59] <ablyss> john, you can run vmware on ubuntu and print from windows ... hehe
[04:59] <chikita> oh
[04:59] <TBotNik_u> nickrud: Hey how to I post the other cmds you want?
[04:59] <lockd> hmm, shouldn't openarena work with vanilla ioquake3 for linux?
[04:59] <chikita> i dunno,  dont think u can though...
[04:59] <deathnall> o p.s lockd i was trying to install openarena and i managed to get it unzipped i am just noob at installing from there lol
[04:59] <TBotNik_u> nickrud: Still there?
[04:59] <chikita> hello, printer print text ridicously small, what can i do?
[04:59] <nephish> deathnall_: go here http://www.getdeb.net/search.php?keywords=openarena
[04:59] <{fe|feL}> {W}lm B{K}  Pelo
[04:59] <john> ablyss: i just installed ubuntu on saturday. one step at a time... lol.
[05:00] <john> ablyss: brb in a min.
[05:00] <nickrud> TBotNik, stepped away for a sec
[05:00] <Pelo> thank you {fe|feL}
[05:00] <{fe|feL}> :D
[05:00] <TBotNik_u> nickrud: Hey let's go #flood to get out of traffic
[05:00] <nickrud> TBotNik, you can cut and paste from the terminal
[05:00] <macogw> ablyss: dont suggest that emulator!
[05:00] <nickrud> TBotNik, join #nickrud
[05:00] <macogw> john: what ablyss meant to suggest was Virtual Box
[05:01] <deathnall> hey nepish
[05:01] <deathnall> i found it mate
[05:01] <deathnall> just one thing
[05:01] <deathnall> is it the package installer and not the zip right?
[05:01] <nephish> deathnall_: great, download and install all three packages
[05:01] <Pelo> !enter | deathnall
[05:01] <ubotu> deathnall: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:01] <nephish> yes, the package, not a zip
[05:01] <deathnall> omg there breaking my balls here
[05:01] <nephish> he he
[05:01] <ablyss> macogw: virtual box ? not familiar w/ it myself
[05:02] <deathnall> lol dont lie
[05:02] <Nicark> does somebody know if i can disable the alias of color for ls just in Eterm ??
[05:02] <lockd> I thought the zip worked, btw.. there are several linux binaries included
[05:03] <pawan> any good screensaver and wallpapers for ubuntu
[05:03] <Pelo> !theme | pawan
[05:03] <ubotu> pawan: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:03] <Rprp> Does someone know how i can add .SRT subtitles to a movie?
[05:04] <Nicark> Rprp, you gotta tell with wich program
[05:04] <Pelo> Rprp,  just put the .srt file in the same folder as the movie with the same filename as the movie
[05:04] <Duke01234567> lockd, oh thanks for your support :D
[05:04] <Rprp> Nicark: i dont know, so that was my question :p
[05:04] <lockd> pawan: just remember that wallpapers will work on all operating systems
[05:04] <deathnall> NEPHISH i thank u so much for the game link btw its sooo cool
[05:04] <Rprp> Pelo, i want to burn it
[05:04] <lockd> pawan: well, sort of
[05:04] <pawan> thanks
[05:05] <Pelo> Rprp, as data or as encoded dvd ?
[05:05] <beit1> hey guys can anyone tell me how to install my wireless card on ubuntu.. (im new to this)
[05:05] <{fe|feL}> Is there a way to get into test installation methoud .. Through using the Live CD
[05:05] <Rprp> Pelo, encoded dvd.
[05:05] <jmantra> Hi all could use some help I have no sound on a Dell latitude Cpi with a CS4237B chipset?
[05:06] <nephish> deathnall_: no problem, don't give up, always someone around to help, also check out tremulous or assult cube, my kids love em.
[05:06] <Pelo> Rprp,  if you are using  devede   check in the video file property dialog , in the advance or more section there is a place to put the filename
[05:06] <beit1> it s this type Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
[05:06] <Rprp> hmm, k thnx
[05:06] <lockd> nephish: assault cube? is that a cube variant?
[05:06] <{fe|feL}>  Is there a way to get into test installation methoud .. Through using the Live CD
[05:06] <Rinc_42> hi, i haven't see i was connected automaticaly in that channel
[05:07] <Pelo> Rprp,  what are you using to encode ?
[05:07] <{fe|feL}> i mean text instalation method
[05:07] <nephish> lockd, no expert, but i think it is.
[05:07] <deathnall> im 25 lol. anyway its installing so some of my hair is left in tact thnx 2 u
[05:07] <jmantra> can someone please help me with sound issues?
[05:07] <Rinc_42> and i'm french -_-
[05:07] <nephish> lockd_: kinda new i think
[05:07] <Rprp> Pelo: ffmpeg, if that is what you mean
[05:07] <Pelo> {fe|feL},  no you need the alternate install cd or the live dvd to text install
[05:07] <davy> http://assault.cubers.net/
[05:08] <Just_Another_Ubu> hello? im having trouble getting a 1280 1024 resolution
[05:08] <davy> first person shootergame
[05:08] <jkthecjer> anyone know a good network visualization tool?
[05:08] <{fe|feL}> ah veryyyyy nice
[05:08] <Pelo> Rprp,  man ffmpeg  there is an option you need to addwith the path of the .srt file
[05:08] <{fe|feL}> which means i am screwd
[05:08] <beit1> can anyone help me?
[05:08] <{fe|feL}> anyway, thx alot for da help guyz
[05:08] <jmantra> can someone please address my question regarding sound?
[05:08] <beit1> installing wireless card Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card (rev 01)
[05:08] <Pelo> Rprp,  I hihgly recommend  devede,  the latest one from the site if you can manage it it is very nice
[05:08] <{fe|feL}> and i  think i am gonna stick with the Vista for now
[05:09] <Pelo> beit1,  what do you need help with
[05:09] <Pelo> {fe|feL},  best of luck
[05:09] <Rprp> Pelo: hmm, ok.
[05:09] <{fe|feL}> thx pelo
[05:09] <beit1> pelo: im having problems installiing my wireless card
[05:09] <{fe|feL}> and maybe laer
[05:09] <{fe|feL}> later
[05:09] <{fe|feL}> {} {}
[05:09] <{fe|feL}> bbye everyone
[05:09] <nephish> deathnall_: yeah, let us know how it turns out
[05:09] <davy> bye felfel
[05:09] <beit1> pelo: i followed a guide in the ubuntu form and its giving me some errors
[05:10] <Pelo> beirut,  personnaly I cannot help you withthat but state the problem you are currently having and someone might have the answer
[05:11] <beit1> pelo:  well i followed the steps in the guide and when  i get to the following command : sdo ndiswrapper -1 it not giving anyhting
[05:11] <Flannel> beit1: lowercase L, not 1
[05:11] <deathnall> ok i did it and it works fine now so thnx 2 u all for ur help. i know im a pain but i will get there 1 day
[05:12] <Pelo> beit1, just in case that is the problem,  it is not sdo , it is sudo
[05:12] <beit1> pelo: flannel: yeah sorry misspelling.. sudo...... yes i tried the lower case l too
[05:12] <nephish> deathnall_: no problem whatsoever, we all started as newbies
[05:12] <nephish> over and out gents !
[05:12] <infopirate> i keep getting errors when i try to put a folder on my burn list.... saying file not found... why is that? do i need to be root to move a mounted folder onto my burn list or what? and if so how do i do that
[05:13] <luyi> ok
[05:13] <deathnall> cant find tremulous
[05:13] <Pelo> beit1,  are you not even getting an error msg ?
[05:13] <deathnall> found cube
[05:13] <TBotNik_1> / j nickrud
[05:13] <macogw> deathnall: tremulous is in the repos
[05:13] <Pelo> infopirate,  copying to cd or dvd ?  install gnomebaker it is a lot easier
[05:13] <keen> hey can i get some help with direct rendering?
[05:14] <infopirate> im running off of a live cd
[05:14] <Juno> can anyone give me an idea on how to resolve my problem with installing ubuntu?
[05:14] <infopirate> cant really install anything can i?
[05:14] <Warbo> Hi, someone has emailed me for advice on getting DVDs of dapper's repos because his connection at home (Ubuntu) is 14K/sec but at work is broadband. I was thinking something like APTonCD or guides to do similar, but the downloading would need to be done on Windows. Is there a quick (ie. mostly automatic) way to download Ubuntu packages on Windows (something like a site mirroring tool)?
[05:14] <beit1> pelo: right now it says invalid driver
[05:14] <deathnall> repos?
[05:14] <infopirate> ty for ur help pelo
[05:14] <Pelo> infopirate,  you can stil install stuff,     sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[05:14] <Sergiu1> keen: yes
[05:14] <infopirate> ty
[05:14] <macogw> deathnall: repositories
[05:14] <keen> sergiu: i keep getting this error "XFree86-DRI" missing on display "localhost:1.0" , can i not enable it under xgl?
[05:15] <macogw> !repos | deathnall
[05:15] <ubotu> deathnall: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[05:15] <Pelo> beit1,  sounds like yoiu didn'T select the correct driver for you card ,  make sure you picked the right one,  many installation cd or disk work for several models
[05:15] <infopirate> couldnt find package gnomebaker
[05:15] <infopirate> ??
[05:15] <Sergiu1> keen : no idea on this
[05:15] <arooni> how do i change my ssid that i use when i connect to routers?
[05:15] <jmantra> can someone please address my question regarding sound?
[05:15] <macogw> arooni: connect to a different router
[05:15] <Pelo> infopirate,  very odd,
[05:15] <keen> serguil: thanks for trying
[05:16] <keen> anyone else have any idea?
[05:16] <macogw> arooni:  you dont have your own ssid on the computer, you know...er....i hope you know
[05:16] <deathnall> well thnx and i will see you all soon. many thnx all. byeeee gota sleep as its 4 am here
[05:16] <arooni> oh ok ..
[05:16] <UbuntuOwns> hello i can write on ext3 using live cd ? :D
[05:16] <Pelo> infopirate,  you are connected to the internet on that comp ?
[05:16] <deathnall> cyaaaaaaaaa
[05:16] <macogw> arooni: ssid is the router's name
[05:16] <arooni> i mean how do i change the name that the router sees
[05:16] <arooni> when i connect
[05:16] <infopirate> of course im talking to u from it
[05:16] <Pelo> UbuntuOwns, yes
[05:16] <macogw> UbuntuOwns: of course
[05:16] <infopirate> lol
[05:16] <beit1> pelo: yeh probably i did not.. sorry im a new user to ubuntu.... is there any link you recommend for wireless drivers . its a compaq presario f500
[05:16] <UbuntuOwns> \o/ tell who
[05:16] <macogw> arooni: the name of your computer?
[05:16] <jmantra> Hi all could use some help I have no sound on a Dell latitude Cpi with a CS4237B chipset?
[05:16] <macogw> arooni: that's the hostname
[05:16] <arooni> macogw, yes i suppose... how do i change that?
[05:16] <macogw> arooni: i think you just do "sudo hostname <nameyouwant>"
[05:16] <Pelo> beit1,  it probabaly wasnT' me but no matter
[05:16] <nickrud> Warbo, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/feisty/release/ has dvd's if that's what you're after
[05:17] <orudie> i just downloaded the latest driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run , how would i install it?
[05:17] <macogw> orudie: the restricted driver manager didnt have drivers that work for you?
[05:17] <Pelo> infopirate, don'T laugh you could be on a seperate comptuer,  , try enabling all the repos and apt-getting gnomebaker again
[05:17] <summer_s4> what is linux mint's chat channel
[05:17] <jmantra> the squeaky wheel gets the grease....
[05:17] <macogw> arooni:  or system > admin > network and go to the general tab
[05:17] <infopirate> how do i enable the repos?
[05:17] <UbuntuOwns> Pelo,  macogw  who i write on ex3 using live cd ?
[05:17] <jmantra> Hi all could use some help I have no sound on a Dell latitude Cpi with a CS4237B chipset?
[05:17] <infopirate> what r repos?
[05:17] <orudie> macogw, it did, but i installed it, but doesnt have the proper resolution for my monitor
[05:17] <bullgard4> What is a 'desktop configuration file'? I could not find a definition.
[05:17] <macogw> infopirate: system > admin >software sources
[05:18] <FlamingZelda> Hi, I am having trouble updating.  Is a server down or something?
[05:18] <Pelo> infopirate,  the easy way is   menu > systrem > admin > update sources,  check all the boxes in the first tab
[05:18] <macogw> UbuntuOwns: the live cd knows how already, there's nothing to do to enable it
[05:18] <arooni> macogw, can i make it unknown
[05:18] <orudie> macogw, how can i install this latest driver?
[05:18] <FlamingZelda> I can't connect to one apparently.
[05:18] <macogw> orudie: i doubt a new one will help
[05:18] <arooni> macogw, or mask it someway
[05:18] <davy> orudie: at the nvidia site, there is a good guide how to install
[05:18] <Pelo> flamesro1k, could be , try again tomorrow
[05:18] <UbuntuOwns> macogw,  i need write on ext3 partition using live cd i can?
[05:18] <macogw> arooni: er...you could make it the word "unknown" to throw people off
[05:18] <macogw> UbuntuOwns: yes
[05:18] <davy> but make sure you make a back up of the conf file
[05:18] <Warbo> nickrud: I found that in my Googling, but do the DVDs contain the whole repo contents (like those made by APTonCD would for example)?
[05:19] <macogw> UbuntuOwns: go to places > computer and mount whatever drive you want mounted, then do whatever
[05:19] <UbuntuOwns> his says Only read
[05:19] <davy> (learned that by trial and error)
[05:19] <macogw> Warbo: yes
[05:19] <UbuntuOwns> read only
[05:19] <jmantra> wttf  are people ignoring me if you don't know the answer can someone atleast point me in the right direction?
[05:19] <UbuntuOwns> i cant write
[05:19] <macogw> orudie: i doubt new drivers would help, but search wiki.ubuntu.com for nvidiamanual
[05:19] <roland> anyone familiar with shorewall and openvpn?
[05:19] <keen> how do i enable direct rendering?
[05:19] <Pelo> jmantra, it'S abusy channel, please be patient , can you restate your problem agin please
[05:19] <macogw> jmantra: or we just dont know
[05:20] <jmantra> Hi all could use some help I have no sound on a Dell latitude Cpi with a CS4237B chipset?
[05:20] <arooni> ok cool
[05:20] <arooni> brb
[05:20] <orudie> davy: yeah i see they are saying to type sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run, but the file is in the desktop
[05:20] <Pelo> !sound | jmantra
[05:20] <ubotu> jmantra: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:20] <orudie> davy: how would i navigate the terminal to the desktop?
[05:20] <Pelo> keen,  try searching for direct rendering in the forum , there is bound to be a how to
[05:21] <Pelo> orudie,   cd Desktop
[05:21] <beit1> pelo: how can i undo the changes of the wrong wireless drivers i installed?
[05:21] <keen> pelo: i did, found lots of ppl with the same problem, no answers tho
[05:21] <nickrud> Warbo, no, looking at the manifest there's a lot missing.
[05:21] <Pelo> keen,  maybe the ppli in #ubuntu-effects might know, they are good with graphics stuff
[05:21] <davy> /home/your_name/Desktop/
[05:22] <UbuntuOwns> i try modify files on /dev/hda1  using live cd but his says Read only system
[05:22] <orudie> lol
[05:22] <Pelo> beit1,  use the guide again,  redo the step where you specified the driver
[05:22] <keen> pelo: thanks i'll check there
[05:22] <orudie> Pelo: it said nvidia must run as root, and i dont think i have a root account
[05:22] <Pelo> UbuntuOwns,  you might nieed to change the permission
[05:22] <davy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia was the site I started with
[05:22] <beit1> pelo: thanks , ill try that .. thanks for ur help
[05:22] <roland> can anyone help me with an openvpn issue? when I connect to my ubuntu server from outside it connects, and authenticates me, I just can't connect to anything internal...
[05:22] <Pelo> orudie,  in ubuntu when you are asked for root run the command as sudo
[05:23] <orudie> Pelo: when i was installing ubuntu earlier, it asked me which user name do you want to use and instead of root i put "orudie" so now i guess i cant be a root ?
[05:23] <UbuntuOwns> Pelo,  i try this mount -o umask=0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[05:23] <macogw> orudie: sudo
[05:23] <Pelo> orudie, it is
[05:23] <macogw> !sudo | orudie
[05:23] <ubotu> orudie: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:23] <Warbo> nickrud, He has Dapper installed, he now wants to have the repo contents available on DVDs which he can make at work (with a fast connection, but using Windows)
[05:24] <Ashfire908> orudie, type "sudo " and then the command
[05:24] <Pelo> UbuntuOwns,  what file system is this ?  ext3 just   sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1   no need for other options
[05:24] <Warbo> a Windows tool which downloads the whole of the /pool directory would probably do
[05:24] <Ashfire908> orudie, it will ask you for a password. type the password you use to login and hit enter
[05:24] <Juno> anyone tell me what this means? I get it when I try to boot the live cd; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33109/
[05:24] <nickrud> Warbo, I'm not sure how he'd do that; the packages from all the releases are mixed in the same pool and I don't know if there's a tool that window knows to read the pool by release
[05:25] <Ashfire908> Juno: I get that when i boot a livecd on my rack mounted server
[05:26] <Pelo> Juno,  is there anyting special about your computer ?
[05:26] <Juno> special? its a laptop
[05:26] <hedonplay> which downloader do you prefer?
[05:26] <Pelo> Juno, what video card ?
[05:26] <unshift> Anyone know how to forward a keyboard from a laptop to a desktop over a network? (without vnc)
[05:26] <Juno> nvidia geforce 8400gs
[05:27] <UbuntuOwns> Pelo,  i need download 1 file .avi via torrent and save on ext3 but his always say read only mode
[05:27] <Ashfire908> unshift, you could login remotely via XDCMP
[05:27] <Pelo> Juno,  use the alternate install cd , it is text based ( yes I am assuming you are using the live cd sorry if I am wrong)
[05:27] <roland> can anyone help me with an openvpn issue? when I connect to my ubuntu server from outside it connects, and authenticates me, I just can't connect to anything internal...
[05:27] <Juno> is the text based newbie friendly?
[05:27] <UbuntuOwns> lol
[05:27] <Pelo> UbuntuOwns, sudo chmod 777 /mnt/hda1
[05:27] <mudpuddlestones> hey all, I'm xcited to say that I have a fresh install of Ubuntu and making my final migration to linux  I staRTED TO WITH dEBIAN A COUPLE years ago. but I of course need som help. I'm running on a laptop and trying to get multiple monitors to run...?
[05:27] <Ashfire908> Juno, not completely.
[05:27] <Pelo> Juno,  i'm told it is very easy but I haven'T used it myself
[05:28] <Falstius> unshift: remote desktop? x2vnc sounds cool but I've never tried it.
[05:28] <Pelo> Juno, let's just say it's not anti-user
[05:28] <mudpuddlestones> I study JeetkKunedo jeetkundo
[05:28] <Juno> well I'll give it a shot anyway.
[05:28] <anessen> I've used the text installer, it's quite easy to use.
[05:28] <Pelo> Juno,  you donT realy hve a choice  the live cd does not play well with ati and nvidia chipset
[05:29] <orudie> Ashfire908: i am now logged as root, how would i navigate to the desktop?
[05:29] <orudie> Ashfire908: dir doesnt seem to work
[05:29] <pawan> how to hide desktop icons
[05:29] <davy> it says /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off, but nu idea what it means juno
[05:29] <nandovieira> hello there! how can I create a photo dvd with sound on ubuntu? there's any software out there? I need to create a digital album for my son's birthday party!!! :)
[05:29] <UbuntuOwns> dont work besides chmod
[05:29] <roland> can anyone help me with an openvpn issue? when I connect to my ubuntu server from outside it connects, and authenticates me, I just can't connect to anything internal...
[05:30] <Juno> I've googled the error and havn't foudn anything on it
[05:30] <Pelo> orudie,  cd  /home/user/Desktop  remember linux is case sensitive
[05:30] <Juno> and I've read on the ubuntu forums that people have successfully installed fiesty on my particular laptop
[05:30] <Juno> so I'll just try the text based
[05:30] <orudie> Pelo: thanx, but how would i know which directories are there or which directory i'm in
[05:31] <Pelo> orudie, http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[05:31] <Nicark> ls and pwd ?
[05:31] <nickrud> pawan, in gconf-editor, /apps/nautilus/preferences, untick show_desktop (turns off backgrounds as well, iirc)
[05:31] <anessen> ls shows the current contents of the directory, pwd shows where you are
[05:31] <orudie> root@Oborona:~# cd /home/user/Desktop
[05:31] <orudie> bash: cd: /home/user/Desktop: No such file or directory
[05:31] <orudie> root@Oborona:~#
[05:32] <infopirate> <font size="3">ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install gnomebaker</font>
[05:32] <infopirate> <font size="3">E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)</font>
[05:32] <infopirate> <font size="3">E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?</font>
[05:32] <infopirate> <font size="3">ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ </font>
[05:32] <infopirate> <font size="3">ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ </font>
[05:32] <infopirate> <font size="3">???</font>
[05:32] <anessen> orudie, replace "user" with your username
[05:32] <infopirate> <font size="3">sorry for spamming room</font>
[05:32] <Pelo> infopirate,  use the pastebin
[05:32] <roland> can anyone help me with an openvpn issue? when I connect to my ubuntu server from outside it connects, and authenticates me, I just can't connect to anything internal...
[05:32] <infopirate> <font size="3">any help is greatly appreciated</font>
[05:32] <anessen> (why am I seeing <font> tags around infopirates text?
[05:33] <LinuxFanboy> i see that too
[05:33] <Pelo> infopirate,  please stop , forget abut gnomebaker then , I'M sorry I missled you,  I don'T knwo how to solve your prolbem I don't use nautilus to burn  cds
[05:33] <orudie> ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing.
[05:33] <Pelo> orudie,   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:33] <bzaks> yo
[05:33] <bzaks> hi
[05:33] <infopirate> <font size="3">i really need to burn a cd </font>
[05:33] <Flannel> infopirate: please copy and paste some text in a text document, and repeat whenever you paste from a website.  You've thrown Chatzilla into HTML mode
[05:33] <FatalCure> Wow, IRC goes HTML!
[05:33] <infopirate> <font size="3">ohh im sry</font>
[05:34] <bzaks> question: is wget a synchronous command or asynch?
[05:34] <Ashfire908> orudie, you don't need sudo to access a directory
[05:34] <CoasterMaster> I've got my Half Life CD in my CD-ROM drive (original version, no steam) and it is opening in the CD player (the disc is one of those CDs where the first track is data and the others are all audio).  How can I access the data portion?
[05:34] <Pelo> infopirate,  menu > places > burn cd/dvd ,  browse your way to the folderyou want to burn
[05:34] <anessen> ah, see, hes just nuked his x windowing system : /
[05:34] <albert> Hi!  Something is wrong with my ubuntu... I can't use run (CTRL+F2) or open Sypnatic Package Manager.... Anyone know why?
[05:34] <infopirate> <font size="3">it says error  file not found</font>
[05:34] <infopirate> <font size="3">i have tried that</font>
[05:34] <anessen> albert, any error messages?
[05:35] <roland> so it would seem no one can offer any assistance with my openvpn issue?
[05:35] <bzaks> is wget synchronous or asynchronous?
[05:35] <Pelo> infopirate,  how are you putting the files in ?
[05:35] <apeitheo> Ubuntu is absolutely amazing :)
[05:35] <macogw> infopirate: plain text.  no html necessary
[05:35] <infopirate> <font size="3">drag and drop and copy and paste</font>
[05:35] <albert> anessen, when I try to open sypnetic package manager the screen goes dark (like when it asks for a password), but nothing comes up.. i have to press ESC to get out
[05:35] <anessen> infopirate, that html is getting irritating
[05:35] <infopirate> <font size="3">error same both ways</font>
[05:35] <Falstius> roland: I assume you configured it to allow passthrough.  Other than that *sshrug*
[05:35] <infopirate> <font size="3">what html?</font>
[05:35] <Pelo> infopirate,  what files are you trying to burn ?  an iso ?
[05:35] <albert> and when I try to pres CTRL+F2 to use run.. Just nothing comes up
[05:35] <apeitheo> I've been using Linux for over four years now, and I've never had an install easier than that (especially on a laptop)
[05:35] <infopirate> <font size="3">no a few folders</font>
[05:35] <apeitheo> even wireless was automatically configured :)
[05:36] <macogw> infopirate: your messages aren't in plain text
[05:36] <macogw> infopirate: what client are you using?
[05:36] <FatalCure> < infopirate> <font size="3">what html?</font>     < _That_ HTML
[05:36] <infopirate> <font size="3">how do i fix my messages/</font>
[05:36] <anessen> albert, i don't know what can by causing that - you know if you've done anything?
[05:36] <mzuverink> Could someone reccommend a reliable alarm clock type program and also what the name is of the package that allows you to hover the mouse over a sound file and it plays?
[05:36] <infopirate> <font size="3">im using gaim</font>
[05:36] <macogw> infopirate: if you turned on some kind of font formatting, turn it off
[05:36] <Pelo> infopirate,  it is possible that the cd/dvd burner is disabled when you are using the live cd, considering that the cd drive is occupied
[05:36] <infopirate> <font size="3">fuck ur right</font>
[05:36] <Pelo> infopirate,  when you talk this is what we see <infopirate> <font size="3">how do i fix my messages/</font>
[05:36] <macogw> infopirate: use a normal irc client then...like xchat.  gaim does WEIRD irc
[05:36] <albert> anessen, it might be some installation I did... Is there anything I can do to reinstall it?
[05:36] <infopirate> <font size="3">fuck</font>
[05:36] <anessen> I'm using xchat, and I see html tags around your text.
[05:36] <roland> Falstius I think I did but honestly not sure... not that familiar with the product... sad to say I can setup a pix firewall with vpn in 30 minutes.. been messing with this ubuntu box for over a week, and still don't have it working right
[05:36] <Flannel> !language
[05:37] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:37] <infopirate> <font size="3">ok sorry guys.. ill wont talk much more</font>
[05:37] <Pelo> Flannel,  he's allowed that one
[05:37] <LinuxFanboy> how come theres only one @ in this channel?
[05:38] <preaction> LinuxFanboy, the chanops come out when needed
[05:38] <IdleOne> LinuxFanboy, thats all we need
[05:38] <Pelo> LinuxFanboy, only one needed , he's realy mean
[05:38] <LinuxFanboy> lol
[05:38] <Falstius> roland: I did my playing over a year ago, can't give you detailed advice.
[05:38] <IdleOne> Seveas, deop you are scaring LinuxFanboy  :P
[05:38] <LinuxFanboy> lmao
[05:38] <albert> anessen, I just quit compiz fusion and synaptic package manager worked again!! just my run comand that won't work
[05:39] <anessen> albert, ctrl+F2 you using to get the run command?
[05:39] <keen> i just downloaded a gdm theme from gnome-looks.org  how do i install it?
[05:39] <Pelo> keen,   open the theme manage and drag drop the tar.gz file on the dialog box
[05:39] <anessen> cause I thought ctrl+f2 was a KDE thing...
[05:40] <smile> how about reboot
[05:40] <roland> Falstius: no worries, I'll keep digging.. I'll figure it out eventually... just amazing how difficult linux command line seems compared to cisco cli... granted I've managed cisco switches and routers for the last 5 years, and only been playing with linux a few months
[05:40] <keen> pelo: ...that was too easy
[05:40] <albert> yeah... I think it was Alt+F2 or super key F2
[05:40] <Pelo> keen,  scary isn't it :D
[05:40] <albert> but none of them work
[05:40] <orudie> Pelo: that last command did something crazy to my computer, i had to restart
[05:40] <keen> pelo: yes....i like it!
[05:41] <Falstius> roland: cisco is a specialized system.  Besides, the config files for openvpn are really straightforward.
[05:41] <Pelo> orudie, no that's whatyou get when you stop gdm , it kills your gui
[05:41] <anessen> albert, it's alt+f2
[05:41] <smile> reboot is the best way always
[05:41] <anessen> never used that before myself, have to remember it!
[05:41] <Pelo> keen,  fyi,  some tar.gz won'T work because they are a repack with extra material ,  you need to unpack it once and use the tar.gz inside it
[05:41] <albert> anessen, Yeah.. I get nothing... is there another way that I can get into run, besides the keyboard shortcut?
[05:41] <orudie> Pelo: so to install the driver i have to exit gui?
[05:42] <TBotNik_u> nickrud: Hey the depth "24" blew, but "15" is rock solid.
[05:42] <roland> Falstius: yeah, I know.. honestly I'm sure it's a config issue with openvpn but with shorewall.. not sure though... only been running the two of them a week
[05:42] <Pelo> orudie,  pretty much
[05:42] <anessen> albert, try preferences menu, then keyboard shortcuts
[05:42] <john> hey, i'm back
[05:42] <keen> pelo: thanks for the heads up