[04:25] <supercom32> f a hard drive has limited space, is there any software that can select a group of directories that would best fill that limited space?
[04:25] <CaptainCrook> xangua ok... i guess i might start there... but if i get to handle another .rpm.bin what the correct way to handle it?
[04:25] <Devon_C> soreau: when it should be "line in"
[04:26] <xangua> !rpm | CaptainCrook
[04:26] <Devon_C> soreau: scratch that
[04:26] <xangua> !jre | CaptainCrook
[04:26] <Devon_C> soreau: line in are my speakers...
[04:26] <CaptainCrook> ok thanks...
[04:27] <coreyman> how do i clear blocked updates?
[04:27] <soreau> Devon_C: Again, I must say i am not familiar with that type of setup but the only other way I can see it detecting the headphones being plugged in (other than a physical switch) is a resistance change in which case it would be the drivers responsibility (though I've never seen such a thing)
[04:27] <xangua> coreyman: bloqued updates¿¿
[04:28] <coreyman> xangua update manager has 4 blocked updates
[04:28] <soreau> Devon_C: But you are doing the right thing. Try obtaining more info on your audio hw with 'lspci' and use that in your searches
[04:29] <coreyman> why is compiz telling me it can't find xgl?
[04:29] <coreyman> what is compiz missing?
[04:29] <soreau> ! compiz | coreyman
[04:30] <Devon_C> soreau: I just figured out a temporary fix...
[04:30] <Devon_C> soreau: I just have to plug my headphones in the jack in the back of my PC
[04:30] <Devon_C> it's a pain, but it'll work
[04:30] <soreau> Devon_C: Hack together an extension cable! ;)
[04:31] <Devon_C> soreau: heh, I like the initiative - a very valid idea, but I'd rather just like to get my secondary front jack working. P:
[04:32] <soreau> Devon_C: Do any of the front jacks work? ie. plugging the main speakers there
[04:32] <gst> any idea, when do i get audio playback error?
[04:32] <Devon_C> soreau: hang on let me try some combinations...
[04:32] <soreau> coreyman: If you come to #compiz, I will help you
[04:32] <coreyman> soreau k
[04:34] <Devon_C> soreau: yeah, not working
[04:34] <Devon_C> soreau: I have two more jacks besides the secondary green one - a darker green one marked "line in" (which I messed with the sliders and didnt get a response) and a pink mic jack which wont help me
[04:35] <Guest82242> hio
[04:35] <Guest82242> hi
[04:35] <Guest82242> anyine
[04:35] <Guest82242> anyone interested
[04:35] <Guest82242> to chat with me
[04:35] <soreau> Devon_C: Sorry man, not sure what else to tell you
[04:35] <FloodBot2> Guest82242: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <Devon_C> soreau: yeah man, no problem - thanks for your help
[04:35] <ufd> Guest 82242 whats the prob ?
[04:36] <Devon_C> how do those types of people end up on this server?
[04:36] <Devon_C> lol
[04:36] <lanzelloth> !wifi
[04:37] <lanzelloth> how do I check what driver my wireless card is using?
[04:38] <jatt> lanzelloth: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers.
[04:38] <Devon_C> lanzelloth: try going into terminal and typing in "lspci"
[04:38] <soreau> lanzelloth: Which card is it? You can look at the output of 'lspci' if it's pci or integrated
[04:39] <maek> how do you install ubuntu automatically over the network with pxe, similar to redhats kickstart? what is that called please?
[04:40] <lanzelloth> jatt, no proprietary drivers installed
[04:40] <lanzelloth> Devon_C, soreau apparently it's an intel 4965 agn
[04:40] <lanzelloth> Devon_C, soreau but I still need the driver that it's using
[04:41] <lazyPower> Interesting, the latest binary of songbird is hanging on library loading. Anybody else having similar issues on a 32 bit version of ibex?
[04:41] <Corey> hello
[04:41] <Devon_C> lanzelloth: try googling "<sound card> driver linux"
[04:41] <soreau> lanzelloth: 'lsmod' will show you all loaded modules, not sure which is for that card exactly.. You're probably using some intel driver though. What does 'iwconfig' show?
[04:42] <gst> when do i get audio playback error?
[04:42] <Devon_C> soreau: I think what he means is he needs to know what driver to install because there is no driver installed
[04:42] <Devon_C> could be wrong though
[04:42] <gst> wat does audio playbac mean?
[04:42] <lanzelloth> Devon_C, ok (it's a wireless card btw)
[04:42] <soreau> Devon_C: The open intel driver should already be loaded by default I'd assume.. Intel hw is widely supported on linux
[04:43] <Devon_C> soreau: right P:
[04:43] <lanzelloth> soreau, iwconfig doesn't say anything abt the driver, will try grepping various things from lsmod
[04:43] <Devon_C> lanzelloth: this might be the blind leading the blind, I'm pretty new to all of this as well
[04:43] <gst> i hav intel's ich9 on my machine
[04:44] <jatt> for some Intel cards it is iwl3945.
[04:44] <heo_> Where are error log files commmonly saved? /etc/? /var/?
[04:44] <lanzelloth> gst, audio playback: the act of audio playing if that's what you meant
[04:44] <lazyPower> heo,  /var/log
[04:45] <fload> im getting a weird error and crash when i try to log on " xauth error in   locking authority file /home/fload/.Xauthority" anyone know how can i fix this
[04:45] <nmukh> hello i am trying to add files to an external hard drive but it says it is read only how do i change permissions?
[04:45] <heo_> lazyPower: Thank you.
[04:45] <gst> i am trying to cal using skype, but couldn't
[04:45] <fload> i can only startx as sudo startx
[04:45] <gst> it tels error in audio playback
[04:46] <Nautilus__> i put in a number of updates to my Intrepid system but theres still 20 to go and I get 404's for them. Is a server down or what's up?
[04:47] <simran> guys im trying to add a file into the modules file ..when i click save it tells me i dont have the permission to save it
[04:47] <simran>  what am i doing wrong
[04:47] <jatt> start your editor with sudo
[04:48] <simran> jatt can you explain please
[04:48] <simran> could i do it via the file browser
[04:48] <simran> and not terminal
[04:48] <jatt> yes with gksudo
[04:48] <simran> ah
[04:48] <simran> is that an app i need to dl
[04:48] <soreau> lanzelloth: A quick google search for 'intel 4965 agn linux driver' suggests the linux driver wasn't ready for the latest ubuntu release until June and you could either get the linux driver or use ndiswrapper to attempt using the windows driver in linux (not recommended)
[04:49] <lanzelloth> soreau, thx for that I was for that I was still reading man grep lol
[04:49] <simran> mate?
[04:50] <bastidrazor> simran, in terminal type gksudo gedit /etc/modules  ..this will make it much easier.
[04:50] <lanzelloth> soreau, so do you know what it's using then? has to be a generic one
[04:50] <simran> thanks bastidrazor
[04:50] <simran> thanks a lot
[04:50] <soreau> lanzelloth: It is either using a generic one not yet supporting your wifi hw or didn't load one at all
[04:51] <simran> btw, could you explain please the significance of "gksudo"
[04:51] <simran> i just started using linux 2 days ago
[04:51] <bastidrazor> !gksudo | simran
[04:51] <Nautilus__> can i upgrade to 9.04 from 8.xx if I dont have all the 8.xx updates?
[04:51] <simran> ok cheers
[04:52] <fiber> Hello... I want to transfer a file from this computer (Computer A) to another computer (Computer C) that is hidden behind a router (computer B).  This router accepts ssh connections (that is the only port available)... I know I can use an SSH tunnel but all the examples are confusing me (plus I'd like to simply use scp or sftp)... So, how could I use port 25 on computer B to get files from computer A to computer C?
[04:52] <simran> and i cant run that command any other way, apart from in terminal correct?
[04:52] <Mike_lifeguard> In Applications>System Tools I have "New Login in a Window" however it fails to launch with the error "The X server failed.  Perhaps it is not configured well." How can I fix this?
[04:52] <simran> !sudo
[04:52] <soreau> Nautilus__: You should have all updates installed first and you have to go in order. Don't try to 8.04 -> 9.04
[04:52] <lanzelloth> soreau, ok thx, and I found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/iwlwifi_Intel_3945_4965/gutsy apparently there's one out from intel
[04:53] <Nautilus__> oh, 8.04 to 9.00, then increment?
[04:53] <soreau> lanzelloth: Perfect. Intel is pretty good about supporting their hw with drivers ;)
[04:53] <jatt> 8.04 then 8.10 then 9.04
[04:53] <maco> soreau: except for poulsbo graphics
[04:53] <Nautilus__> so how come theres a button to upgrade to 9.04 now, ew
[04:53] <soreau> macd: orly?
[04:54] <jatt> no idea
[04:54] <Nautilus__> jajj: not sure how to tell what 8 I have, and I'm getting 404s on the security updates
[04:54] <lanzelloth> soreau, nvm it's apparently an opensource project, not from intel but it's there. thx for the help
[04:54] <maco> soreau: intel's poulsbo graphics (found in some netbooks) use a different chipset than the rest. they hired an outside company to do drivers back on 2.6.24 (hardy days), but development ceased and current kernels dont work with it
[04:55] <jatt> lsb_release -a
[04:55] <soreau> maco: I vaguely remember something about poulsbo.. something about them sucking ;)
[04:56] <Nautilus__> 8.10, no LSB modules available
[04:56] <maco> soreau: on linux, yes, they do...thanks to half-arsed, unmaintained drivers
[04:56] <swayric> howdy
[04:56] <jatt> so...
[04:56] <tehlor> does anybody know where to find the current key for the e17 repositories?
[04:56] <soreau> coreyman: Any good fortune?
[04:57] <jedahan> can anyone using dircproxy with multiple connection classes please post thier dircproxyrc? Only the *last* connection class ever works for me...
[04:57] <coreyman> soreau it's paused at ... Starting kde4-window-decorator ... im guessing it's running?
[04:57] <soreau> coreyman: yup
[04:57] <B00M3cH0> so i just installed ubuntu remix for my netbook and i am having issues playing youtube videos now... any pointers.. the vids have good sound but reeealy slow choppy video..and yes my internet is great
[04:57] <soreau> coreyman: You shouldn't have to guess.. you should see some basic visual effects
[04:57] <Muffinator> Hello all.  I'm trying to set up my desktop's UI to look like the Netbook Remix, as far as the window list, etc.  I've gotten that figured out, but like my netbook, I would like for my windows to maximize to full screen.  Does anyone know how I would go about doing that?
[04:58] <Nautilus__> jatt: can i go from 8.10 sans (49) security updates to 9.04?
[04:58] <xangua> Muffinator: then just install netbook remix
[04:58] <swayric> I proceeded to install ubuntu yesterday and the live cds kept freezing. I tried 7.04, 7.1, 8.04, 8.1, finally jaunty didn't freeze and the install succeeded. Any ideas on why live cds should be freezing? I had WinXP installed on the drive initially
[04:58] <RHorse> B00M3cH0 sounds like your flash version is older, perhaps?
[04:58] <Nautilus__> swayric: run memtest86?
[04:59] <Muffinator> Hmm.  Suppose I could do that.
[04:59] <B00M3cH0> well i have downloaded all the linux flash versions but how do i get them to install
[04:59] <jatt> yesterday I upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and then to 9.04. Got some issues with the sound but other than that the upgrade worked fine.
[04:59] <RHorse> B00M3cH0 go to the Adobe dl site and get the v. 10 Linux version in .gz format. Then unpack libflashplayer.so into your plugin dir
[04:59] <B00M3cH0> they all ask what to open with but no option to browse and selct firefiox
[05:00] <B00M3cH0> ohh thx
[05:00] <soreau> RHorse: Why not install flashplugin-nonfree from the repos?
[05:01] <tehlor> @soreau hiss
[05:01] <swayric> I should've. Perhaps the problem still remains--I'll check that later. I proceeded to delete 9.04 because I couldnt get WG311v2 to work with wicd.sourceforge.net directions, intending to settle for g?utsy 7.10, though now ubuntu-installer, fdisk, gparted won't detect my partition table. any ideas
[05:01] <soreau> tehlor: ?
[05:01] <RHorse> soreau from experience, I've found the direct dl and unpacking to work best, YMMV
[05:01] <xangua> !restricted extras | B00M3cH0
[05:01] <tehlor> open source, for the win
[05:01] <xangua> !restricted-extras
[05:01] <xangua> !extras
[05:01] <soreau> tehlor: Does gnash work at all?
[05:01] <FloridaGuy> how to compleatly from xubuntu from ubuntu??
[05:02] <tehlor> soreau: don't know, don't use it
[05:02] <bastidrazor> !codecs > xangua --this might be what you're looking for
[05:02] <soreau> tehlor: Then why are you hissing? :P
[05:02] <xangua> bastidrazor: nop. ubottu can't handle ubuntu restricted extras ¿¿
[05:02] <ctmjr> FloridaGuy: you want just gnome or kde?
[05:03] <bastidrazor> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:03] <xangua> ok
[05:03] <Scoyn> <-- New guy. Quick question. How do I find out what my ipaddress is?
[05:03] <maco> Scoyn: ip a
[05:03] <Mike_lifeguard> swayric: what do you mean by "deleting 9.04"?
[05:03] <maco> Scoyn: put that in a terminal
[05:03] <sploit> ifconfig
[05:04] <Scoyn> ifconfig said command not found.
[05:04] <Nautilus__> Scolo: the machine or your internet ip?
[05:04] <jatt> right click on the network manager->Connection Information.
[05:04] <FloridaGuy> ctmjr, just gnome.....i installed the net install....then installed xubuntu-desktop..dident care for it so did ubuntu-desktop...now i want to compleatly take xubuntu off
[05:05] <sploit> /sbin/ifconfig ?
[05:05] <apoleo12> heya, Im wondering while Im on liveCD, is there a way to save the settings just incase I would have to go back into liveCD?
[05:05] <tehlor> FloridaGuy: just install gnome with apt-get, uninstall xfce4
[05:06] <Scoyn> Nope, not in sbin.
[05:06] <bastidrazor> FloridaGuy, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome   follow this link.
[05:06] <ctmjr> FloridaGuy: try this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[05:06] <difeta> utilizing mdns (avahi) how can I make it so my laptop resolves the ip of another upnp machine on my network?
[05:06] <ctmjr> bastidrazor: :)
[05:07] <bastidrazor> ctmjr, i have those pages bookmarked. that question comes up a lot.
[05:07] <FloridaGuy> bastidrazor, ctmjr you guys gave the same link...the one i was trying to find
[05:07] <ctmjr> bastidrazor: so do i but your a bit faster than me
[05:07] <bastidrazor> FloridaGuy, follow ctmjr's link. he is correct
[05:07] <maco> Scoyn: does "ip a" work?
[05:07] <swayric> Mike_LaMar:I removed the jaunty install in quite a hazardous way; I fdisk'd it, deleting the partitions (while logged into the target jaunty installation): the install partition, swap, boot. I then used recovery console and fixboot+fixmbr to recover previous state.
[05:08] <swayric> I wasnt having luck with live CDs--they wouldnt detect the jaunty install
[05:08] <Scoyn> Nope.
[05:08] <jatt> just right click on the nm applet
[05:08] <LaserJet> Scoyn: go to the web http://www.ip-adress.com/
[05:08] <Scoyn> I'm running AndLinux. >.>
[05:08] <jatt> ->ConnectionInformation
[05:08] <jatt> that's it
[05:10] <maco> Scoyn: oh. in that case, using windows' cmd.exe enter "ipconfig /all"
[05:10] <coreyman> how come my compiz cube isn't actually a cube and it's just a flat plane
[05:10] <FloridaGuy> bastidrazor, im following both...because there both the same
[05:10] <swayric> Mike_LaMar: so how badly did my linux feats break things?
[05:10] <soreau> coreyman: #compiz
[05:10] <maco> coreyman: because you dont have a horizontal virtual size of 4?
[05:10] <edbian> coreyman: PM me
[05:11] <maco> coreyman: if its only 2, youll have it like a sheet of paper. if its 3, itll be a triangular prism
[05:11] <edbian> coreyman: I can help :)
[05:11] <apoleo12> I'm wondering while Im on liveCD, is there a way to save the settings just incase I would have to go back into liveCD?
[05:11] <Scoyn> Didn't work. =\
[05:11] <Scoyn> Gave me a 192.168, but I couldn't connect to it.
[05:11] <swayric> apoleo12, perhaps a persistent USB live cd>?
[05:11] <maco> Scoyn: well youd need to have something to connect to...
[05:11] <swayric> liveUSB, even.
[05:12] <Scoyn> I'm trying to connect from a Windows app to my AndLinux database.
[05:12] <lanzelloth> can someone quickly explain why there are a lot of different types of regex and which one is the most commonly used one
[05:12] <Scoyn> All I need is the ip of AndLinux. >.<
[05:12] <apoleo12> sway: if is that it, how do I do it?
[05:12] <coreyman> edbian i got it
[05:12] <FloridaGuy> now reboot and see if xubuntu is gone
[05:12] <jiohdi> scoyn 192.168. is your router... and its missing two numbers
[05:12] <coreyman> maco sweet yea i got it
[05:12] <edbian> coreyman: O good :)
[05:13] <maco> Scoyn: localhost? <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:13] <Mike_lifeguard> lanzelloth: PCRE is very common... there are different implementations of regex for the same reason there's different implementations of anything
[05:13] <Nautilus__> maco: lol
[05:13] <Scoyn> No, the other two are there.   Interesting idea.  Although I'd never do it because of the windows 1/2
[05:14] <maco> edbian: agreed
[05:14] <Scoyn> It
[05:14] <sploit> I thought it was just some offbeat linux distro :(
[05:15] <ccb0x45> hey I am getting an error when I try to do a sudo apt-get install -f to install the nvidia drivers: says cannong remove /usr/src/nicidia-185blah blah no such file or directory
[05:15] <twas> pylucene is built against python 2.5, which is a pain for me because I use 2.6 almost exclusively. How do I build pylucene from source using 2.6?
[05:15] <edbian> Scoyn: Techincally andLinux is NOT ubuntu.  I agree that you're going to be hard-pressed to find someone who can help you save the developers
[05:15] <Scoyn> It's possible. I just figured I'd try here since when I use apt-get it connects to the ubuntu.com database.
[05:15] <swayric> I deleted a linux install via fdisk->delete partitions(while still logged into the partition), and now ubuntu LiveCD/LiveUSB partitioning programs cannot read the partition table. Are there any standard ways of fixing this?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> lanzelloth:  theres a book called 'mastering regular expressions' thats worth reading :)
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> swayric:  reboot the machine. You just confused the kernel i imagine
[05:15] <Scoyn> Laters.
[05:16] <lanzelloth> Mike_lifeguard, Dr_Willis, hmm neither vim nor grep uses pcre?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> lanzelloth:  no idea what vim uses. grep has its own  subset i recall..  that book mentins both programs and how they differ i recall
[05:16] <Nautilus__> how can i make 8.10 check for updates?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> lanzelloth:  i recall some regrexp web sites that also summarized what uses what..
[05:16] <Shishak> hello
[05:17] <jiohdi> Dr_willis: I got the cpulimit running... finally... but google earth still seems to hog everything and crash everything but the mouse
[05:17] <edbian> Nautilus__: "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[05:17] <Shishak> can anyone give me a hand?
[05:17] <Mike_lifeguard> Nautilus__: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[05:17] <lanzelloth> Dr_Willis, found it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regular_expression_software :D
[05:17] <apoleo12> Ok I did some checking for "presistent liveCD" it's only for the installation.... however, Mine's already installed onto the HDD... and in this case; I have a grub problem as Im workin on it so to speak... but I'd be booting into liveCD again which means I would have to reconfigure the settings minor in soem areas which I dont wanna go through all over again.. is there a possiblity to  save the settings in any way?
[05:17] <Nautilus__> oh wait, "Update Manager" sorry
[05:17] <Mike_lifeguard> !ask | Shishak
[05:17] <edbian> !ask | Shishak
[05:17] <swayric> Dr_Willis: I rebooted it several times since then booting LiveUSB/LiveCD but ubuntu-install/fdisk/gparted can not detect the partition table. Any ideas?
[05:17] <kevdog> regular expressions --- a really complex topic however basics can be used easilty
[05:17] <lanzelloth> Dr_Willis, one thing for sure regexp isn't so regular
[05:17] <ccb0x45> when I do
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> # grep: The traditional UNIX grep command uses the "POSIX BRE" flavor, though not all implementations fully adhere to the standard. Linux usually ships with the GNU implementation, which use "GNU BRE".
[05:18] <ccb0x45> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:18] <edbian> swayric: I think you can just force it using fdisk
[05:18] <nownot> in the fstab file if i want to do "/dev/md0      /mnt/raid     ext3    defaults    1 2" are those tabs? or spaces?
[05:18] <ccb0x45> X never comes up, but it says [OK]
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> http://www.regular-expressions.info/refflavors.html
[05:18] <Mike_lifeguard> swayric: there is a rescue process on the fdisk site, I think... google it
[05:18] <FloridaGuy> bastidrazor, ctmjr, thanks worked but rebooted and xchat was gone...had to reinstall that...but i think xubuntu installed it bydefault
[05:18] <edbian> nownot: Either will work but they're tabs
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> lanzelloth:  its like everything else that has 'grown' over the years from simple to complex.
[05:18] <nownot> edbian: alright thanks
[05:18] <Mike_lifeguard> ccb0x45: please try to keep it on one line, otherwise it creates noise and people can't follow what you are saying
[05:18] <soreau> ccb0x45: Ctrl+Alt+F7?
[05:19] <bastidrazor> FloridaGuy, sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> lanzelloth:  that url seems to be a good guide comparing programs
[05:19] <ccb0x45> whats control-alt-f7 do? I just rebooted, trying to see if that fixes it
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> ccb0x45:  that goes to the consoles  F7 is normally the X display however.
[05:19] <maco> ccb0x45: it takes you back to where the first graphical sesison starts
[05:19] <FloridaGuy> bastidrazor, i know..i wouldent be here if i dident reinstall it
[05:19] <FloridaGuy> lol
[05:20] <ccb0x45> ok cool ill try it once the reboot finishes
[05:20] <lanzelloth> Dr_Willis, bookmarked, thx
[05:20] <Mike_lifeguard> ccb0x45: CTRL+ALT+F# goes to your consoles. F7 is your X, the others are terminals (and one is something else special, but I forget where it is and what it is :) )
[05:20] <bastidrazor> FloridaGuy, ahh.. i misread. glad you made it back.
[05:20]  * apoleo12 is searching...
[05:21] <maco> ccb0x45: F7 isnt *always* X though. if you restart gdm/kdm it may pop up on F8 or F9....and if you do "switch user" so that you and your sister are both logged in at the same time, the second of you will likely be on F8 or F9
[05:21] <jiohdi> Mike_lifeguard: ctl+alt+f1 drops your gui and brings you to terminal only
[05:21] <ccb0x45> control alt-f7 doent do anything nor does f8 r f9
[05:21] <Lartza_> Umm... could anyone explain me something. What is classified as interactive web traffic?
[05:22] <apoleo12> aw man! It says it doesnt work with Hardy!!!
[05:22] <soreau> ccb0x45: What are you trying to do ultimately?
[05:22] <Lartza_> I have got to know a program called wondershaper which should do wonders.
[05:22] <apoleo12> is this for real??
[05:22] <kyle__> What's the best video editor for Ubuntu?
[05:22] <wgato> after a reboot, other computers on the network can no longer get to me external drive.  what should i look at?
[05:22] <Lartza_> !best | kyle_
[05:22] <Mike_lifeguard> jiohdi: like all the terminals on the F# keys?
[05:22] <ccb0x45> soreau, get into X again... I installed a new graphics card... but nv-glx wasnt working with it, so I tried to reinstall nv-glx and now X wont start at all
[05:22] <shortcircuit> What's the component that auto-mounts removable media on insertion?
[05:23] <jiohdi> mike, like no other terminals at all but the main... like before any gui starts up
[05:23] <soreau> ccb0x45: What was your previous card?
[05:23] <ccb0x45> it was an onboard nvidia card
[05:23] <shortcircuit> I expect it interacts with HAL, but which part is it?
[05:23] <ccb0x45> the new one is a 9400gt
[05:23] <Mike_lifeguard> jiohdi: I'm not sure I know what you're talking about. Should I care about that?
[05:23] <Mike_lifeguard> jiohdi: if not, let's drop it :)
[05:23] <ccb0x45> when I hit control-alt-f7 it switches me to a console with a couple lines in it but no login prompt
[05:23] <Lartza_> !video | kyle__
[05:24] <Lartza_> sorry wrong one
[05:24] <Mike_lifeguard> ccb0x45: look on the other F#s then
[05:24] <soreau> ccb0x45: Can you pastebin the X log from the failed session (right after trying to restart gdm)?
[05:24] <jiohdi> mike, sometimes it will help if a program is stuck... you can drop out and kill it from that terminal
[05:24] <Mike_lifeguard> jiohdi: sure, just like any other terminal :|
[05:24] <ccb0x45> where is that stored? /var/log/Xorg?
[05:24] <soreau> ccb0x45: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[05:24] <jiohdi> mike, except when gnome or kde does not let you access any other
[05:24] <coreyman> !windows
[05:24] <soreau> ccb0x45: That should give you a link back pointing to your log
[05:26] <coreyman> what is a great application to run windows applications in linux?
[05:26] <Lartza_> !wine | coreyman
[05:26] <tehlor> coreyman: i like openbox
[05:26] <jiohdi> coreyman wine-doors
[05:26] <coreyman> I don't like wine.
[05:26] <tehlor> coreyman: i find wine to not work for the apps i use
[05:26] <Lartza_> coreyman: Then you need to pay
[05:27] <soreau> coreyman: Or you can install another OS inside of a virtual machine with virtualbox, for instance
[05:27] <Lartza_> Coreyman: or run a virtual machine
[05:27] <ccb0x45> http://sprunge.us/HNYT
[05:27] <Nautilus__> coreyman: VMware? (depending what you want to do)
[05:27] <ccb0x45> neat little trick
[05:27] <dumont> question: how come when I'm trying to install java v6 and get asked for root password to install additional software, I enter my password, but it says the pass is incorrect, capslock key is disabled, so WTF?
[05:27] <Lartza_> Nautilus__: That costs right?
[05:27] <dumont> java v6 as a plugin for firefox
[05:28] <Nautilus__> Lartza_: depending.  Get VMworkstation and you have 30 days trial to design the VM. Then get free VMplayer :)
[05:28] <Lartza_> dumont: TYpe your password
[05:28] <Lartza_> dumont: Not root
[05:28] <dumont> tried that too
[05:28] <jiohdi> wine-doors does a really good job with some windows programs
[05:28] <coreyman> someone made ubottu post all the things that would run windows stuff on linux... wish they could do it again
[05:29] <dumont> tried, current user password, root password, other admin account password
[05:29] <ccb0x45> soreau, I dont thing Xorg.0.log was the failing one, I think Xorg.99.log is which is at http://sprunge.us/hjEI
[05:29] <jiohdi> coreyman, wine-doors has a list built in
[05:29] <Lartza_> dumont: Interestin
[05:29] <ccb0x45> sorry http://sprunge.us/hJEI
[05:29] <Lartza_> Are you on synaptic or terminal?
[05:29] <edbian> dumont: IDK what to tell you.  If you can log in but you can't sudo you're typing it wrong at the sudo
[05:29] <soreau> ccb0x45: You're not even attempting using the nvidia driver but vesa instead (according to your first post). The second one doesn't load here
[05:30] <ccb0x45> soreau, sorry did you see my correction?
[05:30] <Lartza_> dumont: SO you are not getting a sudoers error?
[05:30] <edbian> Dr_Willis: Did you see my PM ??
[05:30] <dumont> says failed to run gnome-app-installer.... as user root
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  proberly not.. been cookiing dinner.
[05:31] <Rudy-> I'm trying to set up my server to serve Samba shares. I can't figure out how to make them accessible to both Samba and Apache though
[05:31] <ccb0x45> the error seems to be: Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
[05:31] <dumont> the uderlying autheriz. mechanism (sudo) doesn't allow you to run this program
[05:31] <edbian> Dr_Willis: If you don't mind me asking (and if you have a minute) Where did you get your immense knowledge of linux?
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  read, read, read, read,..... expriment, dissect disrtos.. and read, read read read read..
[05:31] <edbian> Dr_Willis: Reading huh.  I can do that1
[05:31] <edbian> !!
[05:32] <Lartza_> dumont: Try to sudo something in terminal
[05:32] <apoleo12> I see this in the launchpad regharding the "persistent" liveCD that has been fixed for <IP_ADDRESS>... is that the whole new OS in .iso image??
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  get the idea? :) I have a large bookcase of linux books ive collected from the 'bargin bins' at the book stores over the years.
[05:32] <dumont> like?
[05:32] <Lartza_> Umm...
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  and now most all are avail in pdf format. :)
[05:32] <apoleo12> I look up to you Dr_willis
[05:32] <Lartza_> sudo apt-cache search password
[05:32] <dumont> whats that do?
[05:33] <soreau> ccb0x45: All's I can say is wow.
[05:33] <Lartza_> It searches all packages that have password in them, just try sudo with that
[05:33] <edbian> Dr_Willis: What motivates you to offer so much help on these channels?
[05:33] <ccb0x45> soreau, lol whys that?
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  basiclaly pick a 'topic' and read up on it.. then find another.. go back to the bookas as referance when you need the info for specific tasks.  That Oreally book on Bash is a must have.
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  i dont have a life. :P
[05:33] <soreau> ccb0x45: I have never seen anything like this before but it's amusing me xD
[05:33] <edbian> Dr_Willis: ha ha ha!
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  ive been on IRC since 1986  - used to irc on greenbar printing termianls and vt100's
[05:33] <ccb0x45> soreau: so no idea?
[05:33] <dumont> says user is not allowed to execute ... as root on this machine
[05:33] <soreau> ccb0x45: It's loading every single graphics driver it has for every card
[05:34] <soreau> ccb0x45: You only want it to load "nvidia"
[05:34] <Lartza_> dumont: That sound like the old sudoers error
[05:34] <soreau> ccb0x45: What does your xorg.conf look like?
[05:34] <dumont> what do you mean?
[05:34] <ccb0x45> soreau, let me grab it
[05:34] <edbian> Dr_Willis: Wow
[05:34] <Lartza_> dumont: I'm not sure if that error has replaced: "you are not on the sudoers list"
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> part of knowing 'linux' is knowing the history of linux, and pcs and OS's :)  once ya learn the history of why stuff is the way it is.. it makes more sence.
[05:35] <dumont> i'm on v8.04, i thought even though you are logged in as a normal user without any admin privilages, and you enter root's pass you could still perform admin tasks
[05:35] <Lartza_> That is the list that specifies all users that may use sudo if I'm correct
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> I actually THINK i know why thers no 'n' in the 'uNmount'  command. :)
[05:35] <grkblood13> how do i get sopcast on ubuntu
[05:35] <Lartza_> dumont: What do you mean?
[05:35] <Lartza_> dumont: You should be able to sudo
[05:35] <edbian> Dr_Willis: Cause they wanted to mess with people?!?!
[05:35] <dumont> so why can't I?
[05:36] <Lartza_> dumont: I mean not only root can install things
[05:36] <Lartza_> dumont: YOu don't propably havbe administrative rights
[05:36] <dumont> when i created this normal ser, i just used the which ever regular create normal user command it was, i didn't add any permissions or groups or anything, should have I done something like that?
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  back when the  original os's came  out - it had like a 6 character file name limit. :0 YEARS ago...
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> edbian:  and its been grandfathered in ever since
[05:37] <edbian> Dr_Willis: wow.  Sounds convincing to me!
[05:37] <dumont> Lartza_ it's my dedicated server, i have root user account, and trying to install something as normal user
[05:37] <Lartza_> dumont: Yes I am just looking my user"profile" which has checks to things like "Use modems" "Administrate the system"
[05:37] <Lartza_> dumont: YOu have windowing system there?
[05:37] <edbian> dumont: Installing software is a administrative task.  Users should NOT be able to do it.
[05:38] <apoleo12> woe is me
[05:38] <Lartza_> edbian: But with sudo
[05:38] <dumont> keep in mind i'm probably going to have to perform these changes to user rights via command line
[05:38] <edbian> Lartza_: Then that is normal :)
[05:38] <ccb0x45> soreau: http://sprunge.us/XYKX
[05:38] <Lartza_> dumont: Yea I don't know much about that way
[05:38] <apoleo12> I have a usb flash stick but only 512mb in size... which means its not possible????
[05:38] <Lartza_> edbian: But he can't :)
[05:38] <wgato> i see /usr/sbin/smbd -D in the ps list.  does that mean samba is running?
[05:38] <dumont> edbian i'd rather not start a vnc server from root in order to open firefox and instal java plugin
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> I saw 8gb flash on sale for $20 just today
[05:39] <Lartza_> dumont: Just wait a sec
[05:39] <edbian> dumont: Can you pastebin you're /etc/sudoers ??
[05:39] <ccb0x45> soreau, pretty simple xorg
[05:39] <apoleo12> dr_willis: Yea,, but Im poor.. and too poor enough to get this to work but only have to get this to work all on my own... which is ok
[05:39] <soreau> ccb0x45: I'm still trying to figure out how X would load ALL drivers. That is really beyond me. Hang tight
[05:39] <LavaEagle> Hey, I have 117gb of unallocated space, how do I give that to my current install of ubuntu?
[05:39] <apoleo12> could you send that to me? lol
[05:40] <edbian> LavaEagle: Do you have a live CD handy?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> LavaEagle:  one way . partition it. and mount it somewhere.
[05:40] <LavaEagle> yes I do
[05:40] <LavaEagle> I did a dual boot with windows 7
[05:40] <ccb0x45> cool
[05:40] <LavaEagle> Gave windows 7 25 gb of space
[05:41] <LavaEagle> did a side by side install came out wrong somehow
[05:41] <apoleo12> so it sound like I would not be able to do this at all otherwise to get this dang grub to work!
[05:41] <edbian> LavaEagle: Boot the live CD, start the "partition editor", "grow" your ubuntu partition over the unallocated space.  :)
[05:41] <LavaEagle> Ah!
[05:41] <KiRiLoS> LavaEagle,run your ubuntu live cd,then go to system->administration->partition editor and from there you can choose to extend your ubuntu partition.
[05:41] <Shishak> when i install ubuntu 9.04 i get to the desktop screen, it makes the boot up noise.  but then nothing happens, it sits idle.  When I reboot the computer it does the same thing...
[05:41] <Lartza_> dumont: The file is /etc/group
[05:41] <bucky> apoleo12:  how big is the unetbootin image?
[05:41] <Shishak> I do not see any desktop icons
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Shishak:  you do see a desktop? just no icons? you see a mouse pointer?
[05:42] <bucky> apoleo12:  oh nm
[05:42] <Shishak> yes
[05:42] <Shishak> and i can move the mouse
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Shishak:  try the 'install' option from the boot menu perhaps?
[05:42] <apoleo12> bucky: what?
[05:42] <ublender> i have a gspca based webcam that is listed in lsusb, but doesn't show up in the video devices list of webcam applications, any ideas?
[05:42] <bucky> apoleo12:  oh nm
[05:42] <apoleo12> Ok
[05:42] <dumont> http://pastebin.com/d610a289d
[05:42] <LavaEagle> Alright lets do it!
[05:42] <Shishak> Dr_Willis: thats what I did
[05:42] <Shishak> twice
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Shishak:  odd..  You may want to try the alternetive installer cd. its a text based installer - but it installs the same stuff
[05:43] <Lartza_> dumont: I don't know the right number but, admin:x:106:youruser > /etc/group
[05:43] <Lartza_> NOt sure what 106 should be
[05:43] <swayric> fdisk's Partition-Rescue HOWTO didn't help much.
[05:43] <apoleo12> Ok here is the question that popped my mind; in the menu.lst, hd(#,#) can it be sd(#,#)? or its not possible only written as hd?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  GRUB uses its own nameing scheme.  its  hd(#,#)
[05:44] <apoleo12> ok
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  sd is how linux names them. :)
[05:44] <bucky> ublender: i think you're going to need a driver for that apt-cache show show gspca-source
[05:44] <apoleo12> ok
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> apoleo12:  you can boot bsd and other os's via grub. those os's hage their own disk nameing scheme also.
[05:44] <coreyman> I installed samba and for some reason when I access a computer on my network where the username has no password, it says access denied... what's going on
[05:45] <apoleo12> so I woudl think grub is lost with all my harddrivbed and its partitions would you think?
[05:45] <dividebyzer0> couple questions: one, even though I have ubuntu as the only OS on my HDD, can I still install xp or vista or some other OS?
[05:45] <CaptainCrook> any way to play msn games against windows user?
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> coreyman:  you did tive the user a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[05:45] <razordead> coreyman, set a password on the accounts
[05:45] <dividebyzer0> as long as I set up a partition right?
[05:45] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: It's tricky to install windows AFTER linux
[05:45] <Lartza_> It should be installed before, but after can be done too jsut google it
[05:45] <dividebyzer0> how so?
[05:46] <Shishak> Dr_Willis: When I restarted it gave me an error " reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media...etc"
[05:46] <Lartza_> Web has good step by step guides
[05:46] <apoleo12> so I would think grub is lost with all my harddrives and its partitions ...
[05:46] <Shishak> I have the boot order set to SSD then CDROM
[05:46] <coreyman> razordead yea i guess i can try that
[05:46] <swayric> I'll attempt memory test from LiveCD, though I'm not quite sure what that'll help
[05:46] <razordead> Lartza_, the Windows install will overwrite GRUB & you'll need to put grub back in the mbr
[05:46] <dividebyzer0> another question: My laptop has HDMI out, how do I get that working on my TV?
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> Shishak:  i wonder if you dont have a bad disk/burnt image or somthing.
[05:46] <Shishak> should I try to burn the ISO again?
[05:47] <dividebyzer0> I plugged the HDMI cable from my laptop to my HDMI in my tv, changed the tv source but it said no signal still
[05:47] <Shishak> I used alcohol 120 to burn the ISO
[05:47] <Lartza_> razordead: THe guiodes on web have solution that I am not installing it, dividebyzer0 is
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Shishak:  i always use unetbootin  and install from 'bootable flash drives' i make with the unetbootin tool.
[05:47] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: Drivers?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Shishak:  using that tool dosent prove the iso file wasent bad.. there is a verify iso option in the menu i recall
[05:47] <bucky> Dr_Willis: how big is the unetbootin image?
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  what unetbootin 'image' ?
[05:48] <dividebyzer0> I need to update the drivers for my video card.. because I cant even put the visual effects at anything, or it locks up
[05:48] <dividebyzer0> I have an Nvidia GeForce
[05:48] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: Geforce what?
[05:48] <bucky> Dr_Willis: how big a USB drive do you need for jaunty?
[05:48] <soreau> ccb0x45: I don't know why, but it's falling back to the vesa driver
[05:49] <dividebyzer0> 8700M-gt
[05:49] <Lartza_> soreau: What card?
[05:49] <soreau> ccb0x45: The .99 log is apparently just X probing and not useful in this case
[05:49] <mnaines> Bucky, you can get away with a 16GB flash drive
[05:49] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: nvidia-glx-180 is the right package
[05:49] <ccb0x45> soreau, well if its falling back to vesa how come I dont even get an X desktop
[05:49] <dividebyzer0> mnaines: wouldnt running it from flash be really slow?
[05:49] <soreau> ccb0x45: My best suggestion would be to reinstall the nvidia graphics drivers
[05:49] <bucky> oh.. thank you mnaines
[05:49] <coreyman> razordead yea it works now... od
[05:50] <coreyman> odd8
[05:50] <mnaines> dividebyzer0, yes, actually it would...
[05:50] <dividebyzer0> Lartza_: do I just get that from synaptic?
[05:50] <swayric> If I leave memory test to run it's loops tonight, what do I do if it finds errors? buy new memory?
[05:50] <soreau> ccb0x45: and to answer your question, I really don't know
[05:50] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: Yes and it's dependencies
[05:50] <dividebyzer0> alright, and from there it should activate the HDMI out?
[05:51] <ccb0x45> soreau, is there anything I can do like any way to make x start from scratch cause I did have a desktop at one poiint
[05:51] <Lartza_> I'm not sure you might need to install nvidia configuration program after that but we-ll see if even the driver gets to use without tuning
[05:51] <soreau> ccb0x45: What happens if you try 'startx'
[05:51] <dividebyzer0> k let me go install the driver
[05:51] <mnaines> dividebyzer0, just to give a side-by-side comparison of speed - drive to drive copy of a file - SATA to SATA = 667MB in under 10 seconds...USB to SATA 667MB in 30 seconds
[05:51] <ytnp> hi
[05:52] <Lartza_> ytnp: Hello
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> bucky:   smallest ive ever tried was 2gb
[05:52] <ccb0x45> soreau, exec: 5: /usr/bin/X11/X: not found
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  1gb might work.. but ive not got a 1gb to try
[05:53] <soreau> ccb0x45: Well, that's definitely a problem ;) Hold on
[05:53] <dividebyzer0> Lartza_: It says I already have those drivers installed
[05:53] <dividebyzer0> is there a reason things still dont look right if I "up" the settings?
[05:53] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: Hmm, have you rebooted after installing those?
[05:53] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: Yes, the driver is not in use :)
[05:53] <dividebyzer0> I am almost sure of it
[05:53] <dividebyzer0> it was a few days ago
[05:54] <dividebyzer0> Lartza_: how do I set it to use that driver rather than whatever its using?
[05:54] <bucky> Dr_Willis mnaines you ever try SLiTaz ? it's on that unetbootin page but it's install iso is only 29M to begin with
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  ive tested many mini disrtos.. i dident like slitaz.
[05:54] <bucky> really
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  tiny core linux is 10mb :)(
[05:54] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:55] <Lartza_> Edit that with sudo
[05:55] <mnaines> Bucky, full Ubuntu install is 4GB
[05:55] <Lartza_> or gksudo if gedit or other
[05:55] <dividebyzer0> <-- still new to linux so you'll have to walk me through that :-/
[05:55] <Lartza_> Open terminal
[05:56] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: Write to terminal "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" without the "'s
[05:56] <dividebyzer0> k
[05:56] <dividebyzer0> ah okay, it opened the config file
[05:56] <mnaines> I found a solution to the whole security vs speed problem
[05:56] <lavaeagle> Where is the grow funtion in partition editor?
[05:57] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: Do you have "Section "Device"" there+
[05:57] <dividebyzer0> yes
[05:57] <ocrob> lavaeagle: are you trying to resize a partition?
[05:57] <dividebyzer0> driver says nvidia
[05:57] <lavaeagle> I'm trying to resize my main install from 2.5 to 110 gb
[05:57] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: o.O
[05:57] <ocrob> ext3 partition?
[05:57] <ofthestrait> my nautilus does not recognize computer, network, or trash.
[05:57] <Lartza_> I was not expecting that :S
[05:57] <lavaeagle> yes
[05:58] <dividebyzer0> so its already using it then right?
[05:58] <ocrob> lavaeagle: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_resizing_ext3_partitions
[05:58] <Nautilus__> ofthestrait: dont look at me ;)
[05:58] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: NOt necessarily
[05:58] <Lartza_> YOu can close the editor
[05:58] <dividebyzer0> Lartza_: k
[05:58] <lavaeagle> dividebyzer: currently I have 2 partitions both ext3 one has 2.5gb on it
[05:58] <mnaines> ocrob, I found a solution to the whole security vs speed problem
[05:58] <lavaeagle> and the other is 110gb
[05:59] <lavaeagle> I need to absorb the 110gb into this installation
[05:59] <ocrob> mnaines: ?
[05:59] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: but don't close the terminal
[05:59] <dividebyzer0> still open
[05:59] <mnaines> Plug-and-play External Serial ATA hard drives, ocrob
[05:59] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: Write there "glxinfo | grep direct" without you know what already propably :)
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> lavaeagle:  gparted should be abl eto do that. however.. if the spaces are not 'side by side' allready. or if one is in a logical/extended partition - it may make it harder to do.
[06:00] <dividebyzer0> it says GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test, GL_EXT_direct_state_access,
[06:00] <mnaines> ocrob, you get the same 300 megabytes per second speed of standard SATA drives but the plug-and-play capability means you can unmount, unplug, and physically secure the drive whenever you leave the desk
[06:00] <lavaeagle> Should I format the larger partition to a primary ext3?
[06:00] <soreau> ccb0x45: Do you get anything from 'which X' or 'ls -l /usr/bin/X' or 'ls -l /usr/bin/X11/X'?
[06:00] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: direct rendering?
[06:00] <Lartza_> Yes or No
[06:00] <ocrob> mnaines: very nice, which drive did you get
[06:00] <dividebyzer0> yes
[06:00] <Lartza_> Hmm then it is working
[06:00] <Lartza_> The driver
[06:00] <mnaines> I don't use anything but SATA drives, ocrob
[06:00] <soreau> Lartza_: Grep for 'renderer', not direct
[06:01] <ccb0x45> soreau, nothin from any of them
[06:01] <soreau> Lartza_: If there is software rasterizer, that may be a problem
[06:01] <soreau> ccb0x45: Ok, sec
[06:01] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: Write there "glxinfo | grep renderer" without you know what already propably :)
[06:01] <ocrob> mnaines: which external ? WD?
[06:01] <dividebyzer0> weird.. its a pretty powerful video card... I dont see why it still messes up
[06:01] <ccb0x45> soreau, but I just had an X desktop a couple reboots ago...
[06:01] <Lartza_> Write that new command, it's little different
[06:01] <yellowrooster> in gparted, what's "round to cylinders" for?
[06:01] <dividebyzer0> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 8700M GT/PCI/SSE2
[06:01] <mnaines> ocrob, on my desktop, the boot drive is a 150GB 10,000rpm Western Digital Raptor X drive, the external drive is a 500GB 7,200rpm Seagate Barracuda, and the optical drive is a Pioneer DVD+-RW drive running SATA
[06:02] <soreau> ccb0x45: Try reinstalling xserver-xorg-core perhaps or looking to see if you have any clues in /var/log/gdm/logs
[06:03] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: Last try "glxinfo | grep version"
[06:03] <Lartza_> And OpenGL version string?
[06:03] <dividebyzer0> its multiple lines, want me to PM it?
[06:03] <Lartza_> Only the OpenGL line please
[06:04] <dividebyzer0> OpenGL version string: 3.0.0 NVIDIA 180.44
[06:04] <Lartza_> :S
[06:04] <ccb0x45> soreau, ok installing
[06:04] <Nautilus> yellowrooster: on a disk drive a cylinder is the concept of a track vertically, across all internal disks
[06:05] <yellowrooster> Nautilus: ok. don't understand still.
[06:05] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: Whare are you enabling hdmi?
[06:05] <soreau> ccb0x45: xorg server core wasn't even installed?
[06:05] <Lartza_> *WHere
[06:05] <dividebyzer0> I dont know how to enable it, thats just it
[06:05] <ccb0x45> soreau, I dunno wtf is going on, but I cant install it... heres a pastebin
[06:05] <Nautilus> yellowrooster: say you have sata hd. It has a platter with tracks on it. Pick #123 for example
[06:06] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: Try to plug the cords and run "nvidia-settings"
[06:06] <ccb0x45> http://pastebin.com/m796f7df2
[06:06] <Nautilus> yellowrooster: it is probably a double-sided platter so you have track 123 on both sides, that's the cylcinder. if there's 2 platters, theres 4 tracks in the cylinder
[06:06] <dividebyzer0> Lartza_: I figured its always enabled much like the VGA-out connection is
[06:06] <ccb0x45> soreau, check that pastebin... installing core is giving me an error
[06:06] <Lartza_> It is?
[06:06] <dividebyzer0> *shrug*
[06:06] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: My TV-Out is disabled all the time
[06:07] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: "nvidia-settings"
[06:07] <dividebyzer0> when I had vista I just plugged the cable in and it worked
[06:07] <dividebyzer0> where do I find the settings?
[06:07] <dividebyzer0> under display?
[06:07] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: RUn "nvidia-settings" already...
[06:07] <Lartza_> terminal > nvidia-settings
[06:07] <dividebyzer0> oOoh..
[06:08] <Lartza_> If it bugs about you don't have it install what it suggests with apt-get
[06:08] <dividebyzer0> (same thing as display window) lol
[06:08] <ccb0x45> soreau, why is it trying to remove nvidia when it installs x-core
[06:08] <yellowrooster> after I unmount my iPod, how can i mount it again without physcially disconnecting and reconnecting usb cable?
[06:08] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: So now you have it open?
[06:08] <dividebyzer0> Lartza_: k its open, trying to find something in here about HDMI
[06:08] <Lartza_> Wait
[06:08] <LinuxNOOB> hello
[06:08] <Lartza_> got to X Server Display Configuration
[06:08] <dividebyzer0> k
[06:09] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: YOu should have something like 2 screens there
[06:09] <Lartza_> I have hp L1925 1280x1024 and TV-0 (Disabled)
[06:09] <dividebyzer0> Lartza_: The tabs are "Display" and "X Screen"
[06:09] <Lartza_> Ohh you might have newer nvidia-settings
[06:10] <soreau> ccb0x45: It's probably trying to fix what's wrong but can't because your system's so messed up. Is this an upgrade from a previous ubuntu version?
[06:10] <Lartza_> I have nvidia-glx-96 :)
[06:10] <ccb0x45> soreau, no its not...
[06:10] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: I would do select TV-0, click COnfigure and then select TwinView
[06:10] <ccb0x45> soreau, it was all working nicely I just installed a new graphics card....
[06:11] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: You need to find it by yourself from there
[06:11] <soreau> ccb0x45: Which version of ubuntu?
[06:11] <dividebyzer0> Lartza_:  TV-0 isnt listed
[06:11] <Lartza_> It is not TV-0 necessarily
[06:11] <dividebyzer0> it says Model: Seiko (DFP-0 on GPU-o)
[06:11] <ccb0x45> soreau, how do I check that again?
[06:11] <ccb0x45> soreau, pretty sure jaunty
[06:12] <LinuxNOOB> hello all. I have in ibook and i just successfully installed ubuntu. I'm trying to join my wireless network which is created by an airport express. I can see that the network exists, but I can't seem to join it. It keeps saying "Authentication required". i have my wireless network set up as a WEP 128 bit using a passphrase. but i can join.
[06:12] <soreau> ccb0x45: lsb_release -a|grep -i code
[06:12] <ccb0x45> soreau, Jaunty
[06:13] <dividebyzer0> Lartza_: no idea
[06:13] <soreau> ccb0x45: I recommend reinstalling nvidia drivers, but if xorg core isn't installed, then you have more problems than just not getting X to start. Your system is messed up
[06:13] <Lartza_> dividebyzer: ANywhere read HDMI, something out or TwinView?
[06:14] <ccb0x45> soreau, I just reinstalled the nvidia drivers
[06:14] <ccb0x45> soreau, ok weird I tried to install X again and that time it worked lol
[06:14] <soreau> ccb0x45: and I assume that didn't do much. If you can't install xorg core (and it's not installed) you have more serious problems
[06:14] <soreau> Hmm
[06:15] <ccb0x45> soreau, now which X gives me /usr/bin/X
[06:15] <dividebyzer0> Lartza_: if I click configure it has Disabled (requires X restart), Separate X Screen, TwinView (requires X restart)
[06:15] <soreau> ccb0x45: Progress
[06:15] <dividebyzer0> I cant click on twinview though, its grayed out
[06:15] <soreau> ccb0x45: And now, startx?
[06:15] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: Yea that is your "monitor out"
[06:15] <dividebyzer0> maybe if I plug in the HDMI and then click "Detect Displays"?
[06:16] <ccb0x45> =) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Aug 22 22:16:14 2009
[06:16] <ccb0x45> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[06:16] <ccb0x45> (EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0)
[06:16] <ccb0x45> (EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0)
[06:16] <ccb0x45> (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[06:16] <FloodBot2> ccb0x45: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:16] <ccb0x45> (EE) No drivers available.
[06:16] <Lartza_> YOu could try
[06:16] <soreau> ooops
[06:16] <soreau> ccb0x45: Pastebin :p
[06:16] <ccb0x45> sorry thought that was one line
[06:17] <ccb0x45> http://pastebin.com/m1dac89a0
[06:18] <Lartza_> How do I make endless ping?
[06:18] <Lartza_> THat was the command line switch?
[06:18] <Lartza_> *What
[06:19] <ccb0x45> soreau, so now it says it cant find nvidia... how do I try to reinstall nvidia?
[06:19] <dividebyzer0> Lartza_: AH HAH!
[06:19] <Lartza_> dividebyzer0: :)
[06:19] <soreau> ccb0x45: Umm.. does it say it can't find all those other things too? (type1, freetype, etc)
[06:19] <dividebyzer0> Lartza_:  so yes, plug it in first, then click the button
[06:20] <Kapace> hello, i have to make a backup, what would be the most sure-fire way of copying to an external drive
[06:20] <dividebyzer0> Lartza_: now hopefully the sound will output too
[06:20] <Lartza_> YEa that has sometimes problems :)
[06:20] <ccb0x45> soreau, yea hah
[06:20] <mdgrech> @kapace check out rysnc
[06:20] <Kapace> mdgrech, just google rsync?
[06:20] <soreau> ccb0x45: Then you're missing something else most likely. Some other important X component
[06:20] <Kapace> or is there a nice gui or guide?
[06:22] <ccb0x45> soreau, I think I figured out what happened... when I install nvidia-glx-180 it uninstalls a bunch of xorg stuff...
[06:22] <soreau> ccb0x45: Definitely not good
[06:22] <nownot> im not going to lie, the absence of a manager for raid devices is shameful
[06:22] <ccb0x45> soreau, well thats just rom doing sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[06:23] <soreau> ccb0x45: Still not cool. idk what's going on there, but I stand by that your system is messed up somehow :)
[06:23] <dividebyzer0> Lartza_:  sound is still coming from my laptop and not the tv though
[06:24] <ccb0x45> soreau, I dont think so... I think its apt-get
[06:24] <Lartza_> I can't help you with that sorry
[06:24] <soreau> dividebyzer0: Some hdmi thing?
[06:24] <dividebyzer0> soreau:  yes
[06:25] <dividebyzer0> soreau: got the HDMI out to work from my laptop to TV, but the sound is still playing from my laptop, not my surround
[06:25] <soreau> dividebyzer0: Search the nvnews forums or ask in the ghost town that is #nvidia
[06:25] <Lartza_> Could someone tell me about interactive web traffic?
[06:25] <ccb0x45> soreau, look at this from sudo apt-get isntall nvidia-glx-180
[06:26] <ccb0x45> http://pastebin.com/m2b46bad3
[06:28] <myne-us> any reason why my ubuntu server keeps sending out a "*reload /etc/samba/smb.conf smdb only" constantly when I am logged off the server?
[06:28] <dividebyzer0> yeah nobody there is alive
[06:28] <dividebyzer0> anybody here know why my HDMI isnt playing sound?
[06:29] <soreau> ccb0x45: File a bug report.
[06:29] <danc3> dividebyzer0: how could anyone possibly know that?
[06:29] <dividebyzer0> *shrug?*
[06:29] <soreau> ccb0x45: Those packages are necessary for X and shouldn't be removed. No idea why the nvidia package would be so malicious
[06:30] <rojoloco47> Good morning guys
[06:30] <danc3> dividebyzer0: <shrug> too
[06:30] <rojoloco47> rojo is back to you All :D
[06:30] <myne-us> hello rojo
[06:30] <rojoloco47> hell myne-us  :D
[06:30] <dividebyzer0> somebody has to have an idea though
[06:30] <dividebyzer0> I mean we got the video working.. just the audio is coming from the laptop not the tv
[06:31] <myne-us> would you have any idea why my ubuntu server keeps sending out a "*reload /etc/samba/smb.conf smdb only" constantly when I am logged off the server?
[06:31] <danc3> dividebyzer0: not likely, without any information given
[06:31] <HobbleAlong> dividebyzer0: does hdmi carry sound? I know at least one of the hd connectors doesn't.
[06:31] <rojoloco47> I even dont properly know what is Ubuntu :D @ myne-us
[06:31] <ian__> Hi I am having problems with my flash player in order to view Google Street Map
[06:31] <Ben64> hdmi is able to do sound
[06:31] <Lartza_> !ubuntu | rojoloco47
[06:32] <rojoloco47> myne-us : I am totally new to this Operating System
[06:32] <dividebyzer0> HDMI generally carries sound as well as video
[06:32] <rojoloco47> hehe thanks Lartza_  :D
[06:32] <Lartza_> :)
[06:32] <myne-us> ah just woundering I keep messing with the samba settings and it still keeps trying to post that error every hour or so
[06:32] <ccb0x45> soreau, is there a way to install ubuntu but keep like my files and stuff? like a reinstall?
[06:32] <Lartza_> My pleasure
[06:33] <rojoloco47> I am using this but today is my second day in this OS so I dont know much @ Lartza_ :D
[06:33] <kevdog> ccb0x45:  Either backup or hopefully you put /home on a different partition when you installed
[06:33] <myne-us> @ccbox45 create an image of your system .
[06:33] <soreau> ccb0x45: The main thing you'd want to keep is /home for program config files and most other files that are saved there by default
[06:34] <Lartza_> rojoloco47: I have been using for 2 years propably, maybe more. WIth some breaks using windows due to some stupid programs I needed much
[06:34] <ccb0x45> soreau, no a lot of stuff isnt saved in home... wow this is frustrating I would really like to fix this system
[06:34] <myne-us> soreau: does nlite work on linux never tried it out, that might be a decent way to back everything up into a portable image
[06:34] <dumont> cmd to check free space? on hdd
[06:34] <Ben64> dumont: df -h
[06:35] <soreau> ccb0x45: I would help you further if I could but unfortunately I can't tell exactly why that nvidia driver package is screwing with everything. It definitely should be removing X
[06:35] <myne-us> ccbox45: do you have an external drive or a burner?
[06:36] <ccb0x45><EMAIL_ADDRESS>look at that link...
[06:36] <dividebyzer0> GRR
[06:36] <soreau> ccb0x45: Your system is probably ok other than that nvidia package messing with your X but not sure exactly what you've done to get this far
[06:37] <ccb0x45> all I did was try to install nvidia-glx-180
[06:37] <myne-us> what did it do @ccb0x45
[06:37] <soreau> ccb0x45: You could try removing the nvidia 180, installing all of X components and then using the "vesa" driver in the Device section of xorg.conf to boot into failsafe X just to test that it's working still
[06:38] <Mnemosyne> Hi, buds.
[06:38] <ccb0x45> soreau, im looking at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7297284
[06:38] <ccb0x45> does this make any sense
[06:39] <koolkat> is a signature a key?
[06:39] <lstarnes> koolkat: a signature is a code that verifies that something was signed by a certain person
[06:40] <soreau> ccb0x45: What a clusterfck. nvidia sucks :|
[06:40] <lstarnes> koolkat: or by a group of people
[06:40] <ccb0x45> soreau, yea... so not sure what I should be doing
[06:40] <testballsack> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[06:40] <ccb0x45> soreau, I updated everything and trying to reboot
[06:41] <soreau> ccb0x45: Do you have somewhere to backup everything? The easiest thing (and least frustrating) would be to just reinstall ubuntu
[06:41] <Zylstra555> Hello, I've got a storage space emergency here. What is the program in Ubuntu that monitors what folders are using the most disk space?
[06:41] <Ben64> the best thing to do is have ubuntu install nvidia itself
[06:41] <leaf-sheep> Zylstra555: Disk Usage Analyzer
[06:41] <soreau> ccb0x45: But if you can at least get into X with vesa, it might be easier for you to fix
[06:41] <Zylstra555> leaf-sheep: Thank you!
[06:41] <Ben64> go mucking around yourself, and it messes stuff up pretty bad
[06:42] <koolkat> lstarnes: why would a programs instructions tell you to sign a signature?
[06:42] <soreau> Ben64: He installed another nvidia card
[06:42] <ccb0x45> sorea, its really not easier... I have dont a lot of setup and there is a like a Tb on this
[06:42] <lstarnes> koolkat: what is instructing you to do that?
[06:42] <soreau> ccb0x45: Then install X and try the vesa driver
[06:42] <Ben64> soreau: shouldn't matter?
[06:42] <koolkat> lstarnes: truecrpt
[06:43] <ccb0x45> soreau, I managed to get X back...
[06:43] <eli_> I had quite a bit of problems with nvidia-glx-180 on last kernel upgrade, and ended up removing it and going with nvidia-glx-173, which got me back into an accelerated-X with twinview.  Of course I had to do it all from the console....
[06:43] <Ben64> i went from fx5200 to 6800 with no problems
[06:43] <ccb0x45> soreau... now gotta figure out how to get the nvidia driver working..
[06:43] <soreau> Ben64: Somewhere in the mix things went terribly wrong because nvidia-glx-180 removed all X packages
[06:43] <Ben64> whats with all this nvidia-glx-???
[06:43] <Ben64> on my system i got nvidia-glx-new
[06:43] <soreau> ccb0x45: Great. Now forget that 180 package or anything that wants to remove X! :)
[06:43] <ahmeni> Is there a way to do a remote install of ubuntu server? I won't have access to a keyboard/monitor
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  what release are you using? it used to be called nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-glx-legacy i recall
[06:44] <soreau> ccb0x45: I have to go now, but I hope you get it all figured out
[06:44] <evilGUI> Is it possible to use a japanese keyboard layout so I can type Kanji on the fly then switch back to english?
[06:44] <soreau> ! nvidia | ccb0x45
[06:44] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: hardy
[06:44] <lstarnes> koolkat: it would ask you to make a signature to verify that you made that signature
[06:44] <ccb0x45> soreau, ok thanks
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  thats why.. then :)
[06:44] <koolkat> Note: In the past, many users reported that our public key was invalid, even though it was actually valid. When verifying the signature, if you receive an error message stating that the signing key is invalid, you need to sign our public key with your private key first (then the error message will no longer appear).
[06:44] <koolkat> In other words, the "Invalid Key" error message does not mean that our key is actually invalid (you just need to sign the key, after you add it to your keyring, in order to mark the key as trusted). That's how PGP and GPG work.
[06:44] <soreau> ccb0x45: No problem. Best of wishes to you :)
[06:44] <lstarnes> koolkat: or to verify that you own a certain private key
[06:44] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: well why did they change it? why have so many versions to choose from?
[06:44] <soreau> gnite
[06:44] <eli_> Ben64 what version of ubuntu are you using, I do not see an nvidia-glx-new meta package on gutsy
[06:44] <ykphuah> is there a music player that can do normalization without replaygain?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  theres 4 versions i see in the repos right now.
[06:45] <leaf-sheep> eli_: Gutsy is no longer supported. :P
[06:45] <Ben64> eli_: hardy, also, why are you on gutsy?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  173, 189, 96, 71 (version #'s)
[06:45] <myne-us> evilgui: setup a VMware settings and mount a drive from there
[06:45] <lstarnes> koolkat: oh.  In that case, signing the key would indicate that you trust that key to be correct
[06:45] <myne-us> evilgui: setup a VMware session not settings and mount a drive from there
[06:45] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: but why? : / i like nvidia-glx-new, it implies newness
[06:45] <evilGUI> myne-us: ah, I guess I could do that, I might need some more ram though.
[06:45] <koolkat> but a key is not the same thing as a signature though right?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  gee.. your nvidia-glx-new is in fact quite OLD... while the #'s tell you the exact version # you are using,.
[06:46] <myne-us> doesn't take much i did a BT4 install that way on 1gig system running ubuntu 9.04
[06:46] <lstarnes> koolkat: it's not
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  so what do you gain by using -new? :)
[06:46] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: everything works perfectly? :D
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  also the nvidia drivers page state what cards are supported by what versions.
[06:46] <Ben64> my version is 169.12 : /
[06:46] <lstarnes> koolkat: you don't sign signatures.  you make a signature by signing something
[06:47]  * Dr_Willis sends Ben64  a nvidia-glx-uber-newer-then-new.deb
[06:47] <Ben64> and they have 189 on the new ubuntus?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> its 180 - i did a typo :)
[06:47] <Ben64> meh, my card is still ancient, doesn't matter
[06:48] <eli_> Oops sorry about the Gutsy comment, I was remotyle loged into an old server when I typed /etc/lsb-release (different term window then the apt-cache search...) Jaunty no longer has an nvidia-glx package...
[06:48] <xatcon> hi
[06:48] <xatcon> i m new
[06:48] <myne-us> eli_: whats the question? how to fix that or ?
[06:48] <leaf-sheep> !yay | xatcon
[06:48] <Ben64> hopefully when 10.04 comes out, they don't break nvidia upgrade from hardy
[06:49] <xatcon> thx
[06:49] <leaf-sheep> xatcon: If you have any questions, feel free to ask them right away.
[06:49] <myne-us> welcome xantcon
[06:49] <xatcon> i hav a problem
[06:50] <myne-us> I have a cookie
[06:50] <xatcon> no sound is coming out frm my laptop
[06:50] <myne-us> :)
[06:50] <myne-us> are you running bt4?
[06:50] <xatcon> not now but ihav installed it
[06:50] <jamsori> what model is the laptop?
[06:51] <xatcon> dell 1535
[06:51] <Zylstra555> Hello, I just had a ton of disk space disappear on me. My drive is now 95% full. What happened? Ubuntu 9.04
[06:51] <leaf-sheep> xatcon: Try and run this in terminal --> sudo alsactl init
[06:51] <MenZa> Zylstra555: Um, could you dump the output of "df -h" in a pastebin?
[06:51] <Bubba_> dl'd pron will do that
[06:51] <myne-us> xantcon: I know 2 problems with install of BT4 and new jaunty on some laptops with sound. you have to log in as root and access the permissions folder and allow sound for your account
[06:51] <MenZa> Bubba_: That's hardly a helpful comment. Please don't.
[06:51] <xatcon> ok
[06:52] <Bubba_> sorry
[06:52] <DigitalKiwi> well it's true
[06:52] <eli_> Zylstra555 did you install to 9.04 by dist-upgrade?
[06:52] <Zylstra555> eli_: No, fresh install
[06:52] <Zylstra555> eli_: I've only been running it about a month
[06:52] <Zylstra555> well, two months
[06:52] <leaf-sheep> Zylstra555: What exactly did you lost?
[06:52] <MenZa> Zylstra555: Again, of you dump the output of df -h, we might be able to troubleshoot this issue better.
[06:52]  * DigitalKiwi bets on some rouge program causing a massive error log for Zylstra555
[06:52] <leaf-sheep> Zylstra555: CTRL + H to toggle on hidden file/folders. Check your trash too.
[06:52] <Zylstra555> Trash empty
[06:52] <htk_> how can i activate newly plugged monitor (multiple monitors) ?
[06:52] <DigitalKiwi> rogue*
[06:53] <MenZa> htk_: What graphics card do you have?
[06:53] <htk_> ati
[06:53] <htk_> MenZa: ATI XPRESS 200M
[06:54] <MenZa> htk_: Hmm, let me have a quick look around and see if I can find anything.
[06:54] <Zylstra555> df -h http://pastebin.ca/1539891
[06:54] <Zylstra555> DigitalKiwi: It wouldent surprise me. Thats what crashed my good ol' server a while back,.
[06:54] <sonly> hola
[06:55] <MenZa> http://blog.staale.org/2009/04/configure-dual-head-with-ati-in-ubuntu-904.html <- htk_, perhaps have a look at that. I don't know the steps for ATI cards, only NVIDIA.
[06:55] <sonly> ??????
[06:55] <MenZa> !es | sonly
[06:55] <DigitalKiwi> and you didn't learn and make a separate /var partition this time? :P
[06:55] <sonly> ok  gxs
[06:55] <MenZa> Zylstra555: It would appear that you have used up 96 gigs of space on the drive... Did you install anything, uh, major in the past few weeks?
[06:55] <eli_> Zylstra555: Please send output of a du -h -x /
[06:55] <Zylstra555> MenZa: No, I didn't
[06:56] <Zylstra555> MenZa: That just outputed a gigantic list
[06:56] <eli_> Zylstra555: Sorry I ment-> Please send output of a du -h -x /*
[06:56] <MenZa> eli_: Isn't that going to... take ages to run?
[06:56] <DigitalKiwi> MenZa: yeah
[06:56] <Zylstra555> eli_: still a very long list
[06:56] <eli_> Zylstra555: Sorry I ment-> Please send output of a du -hsx /*
[06:57] <MenZa> !pastebinit | Zylstra555
[06:57] <xatcon> sheep  now what
[06:57] <shamm> what is the recommended gui frontend for grub?
[06:57] <RHorse> shamm your cranium
[06:57] <shamm> RHorse: lol
[06:57] <MenZa> Zylstra555: if you install pastebinit, then run du -hsx /* | pastebinit, that should automatically pastebin that list so eli_ can have a look at it.
[06:58] <Zylstra555> http://pastebin.ca/1539893
[06:58] <Zylstra555> have fun
[06:58] <shine_> fd
[06:58] <DigitalKiwi> wgetpaste -c "sudo du -hsx /*"
[06:58] <xatcon> hello leaf-sheap
[06:58] <shamm> RHorse: I'm leaving my job for other -- I need this frontend for my boss.
[06:58] <DigitalKiwi> does ubuntu have wgetpaste?
[06:58] <Zylstra555> I did install Virtual Box, however I have not used it yet.
[06:58] <ccb0x45> ok... so I have figured out every time I install nvidia-glx-180 its breaks X very badly... so how am I supposed to install nvidia drivers?
[06:59] <MenZa> ccb0x45: Which card are you trying to install it for?
[06:59] <Zylstra555> On Disk Analyzer, Root is only reporting 67GB used.
[06:59] <eli_> ccb0x45: Have you tried just the nvidia-glx-173, I could not get 180 to work but 173 works like a champ for me.
[06:59] <ccb0x45> 9400gt.... and I am not sure but I think it might be doing something cause there is an onboard nvidia card too on there..
[06:59] <Zylstra555> System Monitor: "Filesystem" reports 95.7 used.
[06:59] <ccb0x45> ill try 173, I was thinking about that...
[07:00] <shine_> 000000
[07:00] <myne-us> hmmm night all
[07:00] <shine_> 0000001
[07:00] <shamm> ccb0x45: I use 173, it's stable so far.
[07:00] <wrapster> how to i create a virtual pkg? Im new to pkg building can anyone please help me out?
[07:00] <MenZa> ccb0x45: As far as I can tell, you want nvidia-glx-177.
[07:00] <MenZa> ccb0x45: Remove the old driver, and install nvidia-glx-177.
[07:00] <Zylstra555> eli_: _That last log I pastebinned, ignore that a moment. I should have run that over sudo
[07:01] <ccb0x45> im trying 173.. do I need 177 over 173?
[07:01] <Makavel> Hi guys... Can someone tell me how to open serial port in ubuntu. I am a newbie to linux so pardon me and any follow up questions
[07:01] <MenZa> Aaactually, wait. I can't find -177, but -173 does not support the 9400 chip. One moment.
[07:01] <Zylstra555> Here yall go: http://pastebin.ca/1539896
[07:01] <DigitalKiwi> while you wait for that command to run check /var/log/ with ls -lh and see if you see anything abnormal ;p
[07:02] <Zylstra555> Me? The command only took a few seconds
[07:02] <MenZa> ccb0x45: You want nvidia-glx-180 - that supports the 9400 GT.
[07:02] <MenZa> According to this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/nvidia-glx-180
[07:02] <RHorse> Zylstra555 55 G in your /home, huh!
[07:02] <Zylstra555> RHorse: Yes
[07:02] <shamm> bbl
[07:03] <DigitalKiwi> is that expected?
[07:03] <RHorse> Zylstra555 try du -hs /home
[07:03] <Zylstra555> RHorse: I know that my home folder is large, but its not causing the problem
[07:03] <Zylstra555> du -hs /home   reports 58gb
[07:03] <studentz> I need help php-xdebug in Ubuntu.  Is this the right Chanel?  If not which should I use? Thanks
[07:04] <MenZa> studentz: What *is* php-xdebug?
[07:04] <RHorse> Zylstra555 it's the only large dir on your drive. What about /usr I dn't see in list
[07:04] <poi77> Hi---I need to run MATLAB on a high memory high core # machine. Do you recommend ubuntu server or desktop?
[07:04] <Makavel> Hi guys... Can someone tell me how to open serial port in ubuntu.
[07:05] <ccb0x45> wow... 173 worked perfect.. so I guess 180 is just a huge pile of junk... sweet wish I knew that 3 hours ago
[07:05] <studentz> Menza is part of LAMP and the debugger for php
[07:05] <MenZa> poi77: Desktop. It's the same as server, only server comes pre-installed with a few servers, and Desktop has a GUI :)
[07:05] <Zylstra555> RHorse: usr 2.7gb
[07:05] <eli_> Makavel: what do you need to do with the serial port?
[07:05] <MenZa> studentz: Try ##php
[07:05] <MenZa> studentz: Depending on whether it's a problem with the program, or your code.
[07:05] <Makavel> eli_: I was trying bluetooth stuff
[07:05] <RHorse> Zylstra555 pastebin du -h /home
[07:05] <MenZa> studentz: If it's with the program, I honestly don't think you'll find much help here - sorry :(
[07:05] <ftab> Makavel: you need to use some programming language for that/
[07:05] <darksifer> sorry
[07:05] <studentz> Is with the program
[07:06] <twobitsprite> hello
[07:06] <MenZa> studentz: Try the forums, maybe? http://ubuntuforums.org
[07:06] <MenZa> !hi | twobitsprite
[07:06] <poi77> MenZa: I see server has some kernel differences: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/features/kernel ; will these make a difference ( no preemption, support for virtualization, etc.)
[07:06] <bullgard> What programs use the executable file /etc/kernel/prerm.d/last-good-boot?
[07:06] <Zylstra555> http://pastebin.ca/1539903
[07:06] <studentz> Manza thanks
[07:06] <twobitsprite> MenZa: was that really easier to type? :P
[07:06] <Zylstra555> Yes... I actually run Microsoft Office on a Linux machine..
[07:06] <eli_> Makavel: not sure what you are planning on doing with serial over blue tooth but minicom can open comports for modem or serial links to devices
[07:07] <twobitsprite> anyways, I just installed ubuntu.. and I enabled the proprietary ATI Radeon driver, but now my screen flickers like mad...
[07:07] <turtle_> anybody know of a gui-based program that will generate a presentation apart from impress? when I press f5 to see my slideshow, half of the text doesn't show up
[07:07] <MenZa> poi77: Seems like a rather specialised question (I don't know much about virtualisation, or optimisations like that) - I *think* you'll be perfectly fine with Desktop; I see no reason why you wouldn't. You might be able to get better performance with server. I doubt it, but if you still need more info, try #ubuntu-server
[07:07] <qdb> hello. how much it is bad if my iptables was open for all packets?
[07:07] <MenZa> poi77: People aren't generally very active in there, but it's worth a shot.
[07:08] <twobitsprite> also, any animations seem to run at about 1 frame per second
[07:08] <MenZa> !ati | twobitsprite
[07:08] <MenZa> twobitsprite: Have a look at that, perhaps?
[07:08] <poi77> MenZa: thanks
[07:08] <eli_> qdb: was the machine directly connected to your internet, and what services were you running at the time?
[07:08] <MenZa> twobitsprite: (Others in here may have seen that issue before - I haven't, nor do I know anything about ATI cards...)
[07:08] <orgix> hi
[07:08] <WholeGrains> I'm having trouble with OpenSSH in Jaunty. With password authentication on I can connect, but when I disable it I get 'Permission denied (publickey)' the steps I took @ http://pastebin.com/m668c9a86
[07:09] <heo_> Is there some ready tool to kill all Apache services, instead of using ...
[07:09] <heo_> ... ps/grep/awk/bash/kill?
[07:10] <tehlor> heo_: killall apache
[07:10] <MenZa> heo_: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[07:10] <eli_> heo_: /etc/init.d/apache stop or killall apache
[07:10] <twobitsprite> MenZa: thanks... but it seems like it only happens when openning the "display" dialog under preferences... otherwise I guess it's working fine
[07:10] <MenZa> WholeGrains: http://sial.org/howto/openssh/publickey-auth/ <- Try looking at this guide.
[07:10] <Zylstra555> So, anything else standing out?
[07:11] <WholeGrains> MenZa: thanks
[07:12] <RHorse> Zylstra555 did you run that with sudo?
[07:12] <ubu-noob> MenZa: Thanks.  I'm here now :)
[07:12] <MenZa> ubu-noob: Great. :)
[07:12] <Zylstra555> RHorse: Which one?
[07:12] <ubu-noob> So, hi #ubuntu
[07:12] <MenZa> !hi | ubu-noob
[07:12] <qdb> eli_, directly, apache, firefox blocked up with apparmor, gedit, nautilus, xchat and pidgin blocked with apparmor, ejabberd bl. with app., postfix, terminal, sys. monitor, log viewer, file roller, char selector, fast note applet, synaptic.... i have written here not only services ... nautlus and gedit was open for long time
[07:12] <jamsori> I'm installing Ubuntu 9.04 on my laptop, and i'm at the partition section. In the past, i used to shrink my Windows partition and let the install wizard partition the free space for me, but that doesn't seem to happen anymore. What is the 'recommended' partition sizes for a 30gb partition?
[07:13] <ubu-noob> Anyone here know how I can retrieve a folder I accidentally put in the trash -- in Hardy, with gvfs?
[07:13] <MenZa> jamsori: You mean, for a seperation of /home and /?
[07:13] <RHorse> Zylstra555 the last command you pasted?
[07:13] <jamsori> Well, however it used to do it.
[07:13] <MenZa> jamsori: Err, I'm not sure I understand your question. Could you re-phrase it? :)
[07:13] <Zylstra555> RHorse: one moment.
[07:14] <qdb> eli_, ices2, icecast, mysqld
[07:14] <twobitsprite> jamsori: I recommend just putting all of ubuntu on the same / partition... but I suspect you are asking about how to shrink the windows partition?
[07:14] <Zylstra555> RHorse: With Sudo: http://pastebin.ca/1539912
[07:14] <qdb> eli_, default services
[07:14] <jamsori> I've already shrunk my Windows partition. At the moment i have 30gb of free space waiting for Ubuntu, and i have no idea what Ubuntu expects it to be partitioned as. Sorry for my horrible explanation.
[07:15] <qdb> like trackerd, pppd
[07:15] <MenZa> Zylstra555: Did you, by chance, create a Machine in VirtualBox?
[07:15] <twobitsprite> jamsori: well... Ubuntu doesn't "expect" any given partition scheme...
[07:15] <MenZa> jamsori: Ahh. And you want seperate /home and / partitions, I imagine?
[07:15] <Zylstra555> MenZa: No
[07:15] <twobitsprite> jamsori: just do whatever works for you
[07:15] <MenZa> Zylstra555: Are you positive?
[07:15] <MenZa> Zylstra555: Because that can take up a *lot* of space.
[07:15] <Zylstra555> MenZa: I am positive
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> jamsori: ubuntu doesnt expect you to know. just tell the installer to use the largest unallocated space and it will do the rest. you need at least 2 partitions, 1 for swap and the other for the rest
[07:16] <Zylstra555> MenZa: I haven't even opened Virtual Box yet, since installing
[07:16] <qdb> i go away
[07:16] <MenZa> Zylstra555: Having worked in tech support, I feel the urge to ask you to open virtualbox and check, just incase. Sorry if that sounds a bit patronising; it's not meant to. :)
[07:16] <Zylstra555> MenZa: I work in tech support as well
[07:17] <jamsori> I click "new partition" and it brings up type of new partition, location for new partition, use as and mount point. Did i miss a step?
[07:17] <Zylstra555> MenZa: It appears VirtualBox has disapeared.
[07:17] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[07:17] <qdb> i need to quit
[07:17] <Zylstra555> MenZa: Actually, anything clasified as "System Tools" gets lost after a while...
[07:17] <eli_> qdb: postfix and mysql are potential holes if you have them configured with bind-addresses other then localhost not sure about the others , you might try a netstat -lt to see what ports were actually open, I have not heard of any recent root-kits, but if you could it might make since to take the box of the network untill you can review the system.
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> jamsori: create a new partition of 1Gb in size and set its type to swap. it will be a primary partition
[07:18] <leaf-sheep> How can I install full-system encryption from... minimal disc? ^_^
[07:18] <Zylstra555> MenZa: I noticed that TrueCrypt keeps disapearing after instalation.
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> jamsori: then create a 10Gb primary partition of type ext3 and set it to mount to /
[07:18] <MenZa> jamsori: Oh, no, that sounds alright. Filesystem, you want ext3. Optimally, you need to create three partitions, swap, /, and /home. swap should be 2xRAM, and / should be, I'd say, at least 5 gigabytes, but definitely not a very large part of your drive.
[07:18] <HobbleAlong> jamsori: I use separate /boot  /(root)  swap  /home a lot of people like others especially /var
[07:18] <Makavel> ftab: I tried using python in opening serial port but i keep getting some sort of error mesage like "could not configure port"
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> jamsori: then use the remaining space to create a promary partition type ext3 mounted on /home
[07:18] <ShapeShifter499> I want to be able to bootstrap(or whatever is needed) another ppc arch than debian for my wii using the whiite loader but can't, I don't know how to bootstap a linux os
[07:19] <ShapeShifter499> can someone here help
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> jamsori: *primary
[07:19] <RHorse> Zylstra555 try sudo du -ha /home
[07:19] <MenZa> ShapeShifter499: For Wii help, no. If you need help with a PPC version of Ubuntu (which is not officially supported anymore), try #ubuntu-ppc
[07:20] <ShapeShifter499> ok
[07:20] <Zylstra555> RHorse: http://pastebin.ca/1539917
[07:20] <J-_> So, I just downgraded some mesa-utils, and dri packages from a ppa git source, but I've removed the PPA, and just to see if there was anything upgradeable from the 'updates', I figured it'd upgrade to 'proposed', but the packages decided to try to upgrade from the git source that I've removed long ago and it keeps on asking me from that source. So I'm guessing the packages are still somewhere on the computer. Is there anyway to clear the cache
[07:20] <eli_> Makavel: it may be a permission problem, did you try running it with sudo or as root?
[07:21] <MenZa> I feel like I should tell you that you're currently displaying the filename of every single file in your /home folder, Zylstra555. Just fyi :)
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> J-_: sudo apt-get clean
[07:21] <J-_> ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[07:21] <Zylstra555> MenZa: Oh, I know
[07:21] <Zylstra555> MenZa: I'm pretty sure there's nothing personal in there..
[07:21] <Zylstra555> .../pretty sure/...
[07:21] <glicks> excuse me, how come after i just uninstalled django via the package manager i selected complete removal, import django in python still works
[07:22] <Zylstra555> MenZa: I'll delete it afterwards to get rid of my email address.
[07:22] <MenZa> glicks: Try sudo apt-get remove --purge django
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> glicks: was it running when you uninstalled it?
[07:22] <glicks> no ActionParsnip
[07:22] <Zylstra555> Least, I think you can delete Pastebin entries, or at least edit them.
[07:22] <MenZa> Zylstra555: If not, it won't show in about 10 minutes. ;)
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> glicks: i'd go with wat MenZa suggests then
[07:23] <J-_> Is there anyway to see where a package is coming from via terminal? I'm stuck in a tty.
[07:23] <MenZa> J-_: 'coming from'?
[07:23] <MenZa> J-_: Which repo?
[07:23] <J-_> MenZa: Yes. The source. or PPA.
[07:23] <Zylstra555> Now, I would like to highlight: System Monitor reports 95.7GB used. Disk Usage Analyzer reports 61.6GB used.
[07:23] <MenZa> J-_: apt-cache show <packagename> should do it, I believe
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> J-_: i dont think the system is that intelligent
[07:24] <Zylstra555> Disk Analyzer does show hidden files, I believe.
[07:24]  * J-_ checks
[07:24] <Zylstra555> *Folders
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Zylstra555: what does df -h   report
[07:24] <eli_> Zylstra555: use -s option to sumerize subdirs try 'du -hs /home/jessezylstra/* /home/jessezylstra/.?*'
[07:24] <MenZa> ActionParsnip: He already tried that.  :P
[07:25] <RHorse> Zylstra555 something isn't listed. You've got 58 G used that's *very* unusual unless you have a 10000 song library or something.
[07:26] <Zylstra555> RHorse: I have many songs, lots of photos, and a few movies
[07:26] <MenZa> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ca/1539891
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> leaf-sheep: for a bit of colour? kinda pointless
[07:26] <thedancingdeer> i've got four files in form aks.part1.rar, aks.part2.rar and on! but when i'm havin only one of them, it gives an error asking for part2.rar! i want to extract it a single .rar! how do i do it?
[07:26] <rojoloco47> Hey MenZa : Can I try bot on you ?
[07:26] <MenZa> rojoloco47: Bots are not allowed in this channel.
[07:26] <Zylstra555> 14 days, 21 hours worth of music, which isn't actually that much. Its only 23GB
[07:26] <RHorse> zylstra555  how come the songs aren't in the list?
[07:26] <twobitsprite> anyone know how I would remap capslock to control in ubuntu? I know of old-school ways of doing it, just wondering if there was a modern "ubuntu" way of doing it
[07:26] <eli_> Zylstra555: the other thing you can do 'du -s /home/jessezylstra/* /home/jessezylstra/.?* | sort -n' to quickly find the largest'
[07:26] <Zylstra555> RHorse: I have no idea
[07:27] <MenZa> thedancingdeer: Do you have the 'unrar' program?
[07:27] <turtle_> any alternatives to impress, anyone, anyone?
[07:27] <MenZa> turtle_: If you have a bit of patience, LaTeX with the beamer class.
[07:27] <J-_> MenZa, ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[07:27] <thedancingdeer> MenZa: yes!
[07:27] <asfalt> Hi All, I cannot connnect to a WPA personal access point in 9.04. Search of forums revealed that many people have this issue and suggestions are to remove security from the access point? I am hoping there is another work around? What seems to happen is that my WPA key becomes hexed in the authentication box after the 1st connection failure if I click show password. On wpa supplicant log it appears to associate with no error but I never get to negotiat
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> J-_: np bro
[07:27] <MenZa> thedancingdeer: Try unrar x <file1.rar>
[07:27] <J-_> I found a bug too. I was exactly right too.
[07:27] <rojoloco47> no no I mean when somebody tell me about something a bot automatically appears and tells me ,I want to try that for you that how to say something to bot :D @ MenZa  :D
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> thedancingdeer: rar x <rar file>
[07:27] <MenZa> rojoloco47: Please try this in a different channel. This is not for discussion, but for support.  Just find it, and get rid of it
[07:28] <Zylstra555> eli_: http://pastebin.ca/1539923
[07:28] <MenZa> ActionParsnip: OO.o Impress.
[07:28] <asfalt> can it be possible that wpa support is broken in 9.04?
[07:28] <rackaraka> asfalt, if possible, revert to an older version of the driver or os if you know it is compatible with your wireless adapter. i know it is a hassle but if it there are some bugs or issues, this is what i can think of.
[07:28] <MenZa> ActionParsnip: You know, the PowerPoint clone.
[07:28] <Zylstra555> RHorse: I can't find anything out of place in my home folder
[07:28] <MenZa> asfalt: It might be with your card. I could only use WEP on my old one.
[07:29] <DigitalKiwi> did you ever check your log folder?
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> MenZa: oh its an OO thing
[07:29] <J-_> Doing the command what MenZa told me, the files are in the proper repos, after cleaning the packages out of the system, I went to upgrade the packages, and the packages came from the same git packages I wanted to get rid of.
[07:29] <MenZa> asfalt: I suggest doing what rackaraka recommends.
[07:29] <Zylstra555> DigitalKiwi: Which one?
[07:29] <asfalt> rackaraka yeah, I could do that but just installed 9.04 hoping to use it some more
[07:29] <DigitalKiwi> sudo ls -lh /var/log
[07:29] <MenZa> asfalt: Try reverting to an older version of the driver. If that works, I highly, HIGHLY suggest reporting it as a bug on !launchpad so others won't suffer the same issue. :)
[07:30] <ShapeShifter499> g2g
[07:30] <asfalt> I think it worked in 8.04 fine, so I guess it would be a module/kernel issue with the driver. I have the older intel 2200 card
[07:30] <ShapeShifter499> byw
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> turtle_: you could try staroffice or koffice
[07:30] <ShapeShifter499> *bye
[07:30] <eli_> Zylstra555: it loooks like only 24 lines...there should be more...
[07:30] <RHorse> Zylstra555 but it doesn't add up, you have 58 G in that dir. Obviously, something is taking up that space!
[07:30] <rackaraka> asfalt, dual boot ubuntu 9.04 and an older version?
[07:30] <turtle_> ActionParsnip: will staroffice run under xfce?
[07:30] <Zylstra555> RHorse: yes, I have 58GB in that directory, and that is correct
[07:31] <glicks> ecuse me where is python installed in ubuntu, the libraries and extra packages and stuff?
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> turtle_: you can run any app in the repos using any DE you like
[07:31] <MenZa> RHorse: Wait, I'm just thinking. According to his df -h, he uses 96G on /. But the du output says, what, 58G in his /home folder? So there's something else taking up those 40 odd gigabytes
[07:31] <DigitalKiwi> MenZa: yeeeahh
[07:31] <sawyannaing> hi all ubuntu users
[07:31] <MenZa> RHorse: Perhaps something tucked directly in /media, or maybe his /usr is being filled up
[07:31] <MenZa> !hi | sawyannaing
[07:31] <sawyannaing> i got some problem
[07:31] <DigitalKiwi> welcome to half an hour ago, MenZa
[07:31] <MenZa> DigitalKiwi: Eh, it's 8:30am, I'm not supposed to be fast.
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> glicks: most of it will be in /lib. there will be other bots all over the place. In linux an app doesnt get installed to a single folder like in windows
[07:32] <J-_> Just to make sure it isn't. I'm positive the repo is disabled. But where are the repository sources stored at? I forget where. I don't use the terminal much.
[07:32] <DigitalKiwi> ah
[07:32] <Makavel> eli_: Running what as root? Do you mean running the python script as root?
[07:32] <Zylstra555> Nothing unusual in my log list
[07:32] <rackaraka> asfalt, i'm afraid you will have to wait unless you feel comfortable tinkering with the inner workings and you want to dive in and attempt to resolve the issue with other people in a similar situation
[07:32] <sawyannaing> after update newest kernel i cant detect my wireless card anymore...
[07:32] <DigitalKiwi> it's 1:32 here, i'm supposed to be asleep :(
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> J-_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:32] <sawyannaing> pls somebody help
[07:32] <MenZa> J-_: Err, /etc/apt/cache or something
[07:32] <J-_> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[07:32] <rackaraka> sawyannaing, whar is it?
[07:32] <MenZa> sawyannaing: You need to be a bit more verbose. Which kernel version are you running? Which wireless card do you have? These things would help us greatly.
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> sawyannaing: run: sudo lshw -C network   you will see your wifi chip and you can websearch how to set it up
[07:32] <DefTone> can someone please tell me why my sound keeps bleeping constantly?
[07:32] <eli_> Makavel: yes, you might also check that the /dev/ttyS? device you are trying to open exists.
[07:32] <DigitalKiwi> hmm i wonder if i can adapt that script quickly...
[07:32] <turtle_> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll give staroffice a try if I can use only it's presentation program
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> sawyannaing: was the older kernel not running ok for you?
[07:33] <DefTone> i have ubuntu 9.04
[07:33] <RHorse> Zylstra555 ok time for the nuclear option
[07:33] <sawyannaing> older kernel was fine
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> turtle_: check what it comes with. i dont use any office suite personally
[07:33] <sawyannaing> after install newest kernel i got that problem
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> sawyannaing: ok, did you change release
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> sawyannaing: ?
[07:33] <sawyannaing> my chipset is Atheros AR5007EG
[07:33] <Zylstra555> RHorse: Just don't tell me to reformat ;)
[07:33] <MenZa> sawyannaing: You want the ath5k kernel module, then.
[07:34] <Ben64> Zylstra555: what's your problem?
[07:34] <Zylstra555> RHorse: Otherwise, I'll but a bomb under your car, and blow you to the freakin sky :P
[07:34] <MenZa> sawyannaing: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[07:34] <Makavel> eli_: Running the script as root did not help, and I checked the /dev/ and the ttyS* i was trying to open exist
[07:34] <sawyannaing> 9.04
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> sawyannaing: did you change release? e.g. Intrepid to Jaunty?
[07:34] <Zylstra555> Ben64: 40 someodd gigabytes just disappeared on my system
[07:34] <sawyannaing> i think i m on Jaunty
[07:34] <turtle_> ActionParsnip: neither do I as I only have a slow machine, but it seems I cannot source a stand-alone presentation program with a GUI. Unless you want to run OOo or Star or Koffice, it seems one must learn the Latex language
[07:34] <Ben64> Zylstra555: and you don't know where they went?
[07:34] <sawyannaing> how do i check it out for sure
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> sawyannaing: lsb_release -c
[07:34] <Zylstra555> RHorse: I actually went back to Ubuntu because Windows 7 had a freakout moment on me
[07:35] <Zylstra555> Ben64: Exactly
[07:35] <Zylstra555> Ben64: nor do the guys who checked it out here.
[07:35] <sawyannaing> dont have the command name lsb
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> sawyannaing: thats fine, ut did you get the new kernel as part of a release upgrade? did you just upgrade from intrepid to jaunty for example, or hardy to intrepid etc?
[07:35] <MenZa> sawyannaing: lsb_release -c
[07:35] <MenZa> sawyannaing: There's an underscore in there.
[07:35] <Ben64> Zylstra555: "du -h" and "ls -hoSr" always worked for me to find big stuff
[07:35] <Zylstra555> Ben64: Nothing
[07:35] <J-_> Bleh, I'm just going to reinstall Ubuntu I think. Pain in the arse. Going to see if I can boot into X again.
[07:35] <MenZa> Ben64: Oh, we've tried allll this.
[07:35] <Ben64> lol
[07:35] <J-_> Thanks for the help
[07:35] <sawyannaing> ya i m sure i m on jaunty
[07:36] <Ben64> what about fsck?
[07:36] <Zylstra555> Ben64: Its just... gone.
[07:36] <MenZa> sawyannaing: Did you recently upgrade to Jaunty from Intrepid?
[07:36] <RHorse> Zylstra555 'sudo ls -Rlart /' (but You have to sift through it; I don't have all week) :)
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> sawyannaing: thats great, can you answer my question please?
[07:36] <DefTone> why does my audio keep bleeping constantly?
[07:36] <eli_> Makavel: then most likely there is something wrong with your script, or a missing library for your program, you may want to check the #python channel for support on program python to open the serial port
[07:36] <sawyannaing> no....i jus keep auto upgrading
[07:36] <RHorse> Zylstra555 the latest entries will be toward the end, if that helps
[07:36] <Zylstra555> This is taking a while :P
[07:36] <Ben64> RHorse: that wouldn't work
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> sawyannaing: then boot to the working kernel and ignore the one you are on now
[07:36] <sawyannaing> i always been in jaunty
[07:36] <sawyannaing> if i m not wrong
[07:37] <Ben64> it only orders files by directory
[07:37] <sawyannaing> it was happen before
[07:37] <sawyannaing> i put modprobe and working back fine
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> sawyannaing: in linux newer isnt better, you only need to upgrade kernel for hardware support or if your system is performing very badly
[07:37] <RHorse> Ben64 huh?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> sawyannaing: yuo have no reason whatsoever to upgrade the kernel
[07:37] <Makavel> eli_: I got it working with the minicom you stated earlier
[07:37] <Zylstra555> Just upped the priority on the terminal...
[07:37] <sawyannaing> ok..thanks for adivice
[07:37] <Ben64> RHorse: all files on the system aren't going to be in any order, they will only be ordered in the directories
[07:37] <sawyannaing> but how do i downgrade it back
[07:38] <DigitalKiwi> sudo du / | sort -n -r  # maybe try this ?
[07:38] <Ben64> Zylstra555: what partition lost the space?
[07:38] <DigitalKiwi> or similiar
[07:38] <Makavel> eli_: maybe i cheated, I dont know, but I ran minicom first, then ran my script as root and it worked
[07:38] <RHorse> Ben64 right, he'll have to sift through it.
[07:38] <Zylstra555> RHorse: However, I don't see filesizes listed
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> sawyannaing: just reboot, press esc and select the working kernel
[07:39] <Ben64> Zylstra555: they're on there, just not in an easy format
[07:39] <Ben64> Zylstra555: anyway, that method would take like years to find anything
[07:39] <Ben64> who knows if it's even one 40GB file
[07:39] <sawyannaing> thnx ActionParsnip....i m gonna do that
[07:39] <DigitalKiwi> my command at least will show them by size
[07:39] <Padhu> friends, I have an lot of photos and wish to make it as an video. from oo presentation or other method with custom audio tracks. which is the application for that
[07:40] <DigitalKiwi> could take a while :(
[07:40] <DigitalKiwi> use some variation
[07:40] <Ben64> Zylstra555: you try fscking it? what partition is it?
[07:40] <RHorse> Zylstra555 the 5th column is size right before date
[07:40] <Zylstra555> Ben64: I only have one partition (well, excluding Swap)
[07:40] <eli_> Makavel: sometimes running minicon as root will allow it to properly initialize the serial device and paremters, it probably means thier is something wrong with the initialization code in your script, but at least you got it working :p
[07:40] <ahmeni> Does the alternate install cd have sshd installed and configured to run by default?
[07:41] <Zylstra555> RHorse: My terminal is not capable of display all of that.
[07:41] <leaf-sheep> ahmeni: SSHD is not installed by default.
[07:41] <RHorse> Zylstra555 use |less at the end.
[07:41] <MenZa> ahmeni: No, the server CD does, though. You can install it on an alternate or a desktop install with sudo apt-get install openssh-server - should be all configured then, running on port 22.
[07:41] <Ben64> Zylstra555: fsck?????????? also, what happens if you do "cd /; sudo du -h --max-depth 1"
[07:41] <RHorse> Zylstra555 that the vertical bar and less
[07:42] <ahmeni> MenZa: the server one does? Awesome. Does that mean I can just boot from cd and ssh in to control the install?
[07:42] <MenZa> I'm pretty sure it does, ahmeni. And no, you can't.
[07:42] <Kartik> Hi. can anyone help me with my problem. "I switched the users the screen went blank and upon reboot also the screen is blank. I did the checkdisk in recovery mode but it simply wont work"
[07:42] <MenZa> ahmeni: As the system doesn't run, then.
[07:42] <RHorse> Zylstra555 good luck I'll speak to you next week
[07:42] <Kartik> can anuone please help
[07:42] <leaf-sheep> Lol. Controlling the installation.
[07:42] <ahmeni> MenZa: Ohh, you mean the base system has sshd installed, not the installer. That is.. less than useful :\
[07:42] <thedancingdeer> MenZa: thanks! :)
[07:42] <MenZa> ahmeni: Why would you, er, want an installer to have an sshd running?
[07:42] <leaf-sheep> ahmeni: I think you're looking for netinstall? Not sure.
[07:43] <Zylstra555> Ben64: http://pastebin.ca/1539934
[07:43] <Zylstra555> Whats all this "du: cannot access `./proc/28583/task/28583/fd/4': No such file or directory" nonsense?
[07:43] <Kartik> Hi. can anyone help me with my problem. "I switched the users the screen went blank and upon reboot also the screen is blank. I did the checkdisk in recovery mode but it simply wont work"
[07:43] <MenZa> !repeat | Kartik
[07:44] <Zylstra555> oh, apparently, /var has 45GB in it all the sudden.. .
[07:44] <Kartik> OK
[07:44] <eli_> Zylstra555: run the command again from /var
[07:44] <Zylstra555> *35GB
[07:44] <Ben64> Zylstra555: what eli_ said
[07:44] <ahmeni> MenZa: I need to do a headless install, no keyboard/monitor available
[07:44] <DefTone> Does anyone how i can fix my audio??
[07:44] <Ben64> Zylstra555: and about permissions, you need to run it as sudo
[07:44] <rackaraka> DefTone, what is the problem?
[07:44] <MenZa> ahmeni: Er, I think you'll need that for the installation itself.
[07:45] <thedancingdeer> any command to watch properties of files and folders along with their sizes?
[07:45] <rackaraka> DefTone, can't play audio in a certain mulitmedia progrram?
[07:45] <Kartik> Hi. can anyone help me with my problem. "I switched the users the screen went blank and upon reboot also the screen is blank. I did the checkdisk in recovery mode but it simply wont work"??
[07:45] <leaf-sheep> Kartik: Quit repeating SO MUCH.
[07:45] <Padhu> kartik: your initrd image& OS lost the vedio driver.
[07:45] <MenZa> Kartik: You asked that question a minute and a half ago. Have some patience. Check the forums.
[07:45] <DefTone> no i just installed 9.04 and the moment it rebooted it started making this constant bleeping noise.....
[07:46] <Zylstra555> Ben64: it is sudo
[07:46] <MenZa> DefTone: It sounds like you need to configure your sound driver. Is it an intel-hda chip?
[07:46] <DigitalKiwi>  sudo  du /var | sort -n -r | less
[07:46] <DigitalKiwi> epic
[07:46] <rackaraka> do you a book leaning against a key on your keyboard?
[07:46] <DefTone> sure is an intel hda chip
[07:46] <Zylstra555> http://pastebin.ca/1539935
[07:46] <MenZa> DefTone: Which computer do you have?
[07:46] <Zylstra555> AHA!
[07:46] <ahmeni> MenZa: Looks like it. I might remaster a livecd to have sshd run at boot then use debootstrap. You'd think server edition would have provisions for installing on a common server config
[07:46] <Zylstra555> Backup folder
[07:46] <DefTone> i have an hp dv4-1435dx
[07:46] <thedancingdeer> speaker-test -c2 -twav gives out mono sound on my front audio jack! how do i make it stereo?
[07:47] <Ben64> Zylstra555: you don't need to do that command all on one line btw
[07:47] <MenZa> ahmeni: That's what KVM switches are for.
[07:47] <Ben64> Zylstra555: then you can go into /var/backup and try "du -h --max-depth 1" again
[07:47] <Ben64> or just delete backup if you really really sure
[07:47] <RHorse> bingo
[07:47] <Zylstra555> Ben64: I can not go in
[07:47] <DefTone> Any ideas MenZa?
[07:47] <Ben64> Zylstra555: sudo su -
[07:47] <Ben64> then you can do whatever
[07:48] <Ben64> but be careful
[07:48] <MenZa> DefTone: Yeah, I was just checking up on something
[07:48] <Zylstra555> 35G	./2009-08-20_<IP_ADDRESS>6040.jessezylstra-laptop.ful
[07:48] <Zylstra555> Shall I delete it?
[07:48] <MenZa> DefTone: gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[07:48] <Zylstra555> I know what program must have left it behind as well.
[07:48] <eli_> Zylstra555: Do you need your backup?
[07:48] <DefTone> thank you so much...this sound makes me wanna shoot myself...lol
[07:48] <Zylstra555> eli_: No, I do not need it
[07:48] <MenZa> DefTone: Add the following: snd_hda_intel model=hp-dv5
[07:49] <DigitalKiwi> what program Zylstra555 ?
[07:49] <Zylstra555> "Simple Backup Config"
[07:49] <MenZa> DefTone: Save the file, and reboot it. I had the same issue with my current laptop, but that required a different setting - it might not work, as there are so. many. different. settings.
[07:49] <MenZa> DefTone: Report back to me to let me know if it worked afterwards :)
[07:49] <DefTone> k let me reboot now....brb
[07:49] <MenZa> DefTone: You might need to try model=hp instead.
[07:49] <shamm> How do I change Temperature from C to F at logon?
[07:50] <eli_> Did not even realize that ubuntu had a backup program...(I reley on ZFS with snapshots on solaris exporting iscsi volumes to my linux boxes...)
[07:50] <MenZa> shamm: Try right-clicking the weather applet and click preferences.
[07:50] <RHorse> Full backups are not necessary
[07:51] <shamm> MenZa: I'm in console (tty1)
[07:51] <shamm> :p
[07:51] <Zylstra555> RHorse: I backed up my home folder
[07:51] <MenZa> shamm: ...oh. What's showing your temperature right now? o_O
[07:51] <MenZa> er, *a* temperature.
[07:51] <Zylstra555> RHorse: which, exceeds the maximum amount of storage space I have on the drive when multiplied by two
[07:51] <thedancingdeer> speaker-test -c2 -twav gives out mono sound on my front audio jack! how do i make it stereo?
[07:51] <MenZa> !patience | thedancingdeer
[07:51] <RHorse> Zylstra555 do that to an eSATA or USB drive for Pete's sake
[07:51] <shamm> when you log in, it tells you uname, uname -a, etc including temperature.
[07:51] <Zylstra555> RHorse: It was supposed to backup over the network...
[07:52] <MenZa> shamm: On, for hardware?
[07:52] <shamm> yes, for hardware, sorry.
[07:52] <Zylstra555> RHorse: But, apparently, that didn't happen. Or, it creates a really large buffer...
[07:52] <Zylstra555> Anyways, how do I delete this folder entirely?
[07:52] <MenZa> shamm: Not a clue. Sorry :(
[07:52] <Zylstra555>  /var/backup
[07:52] <shamm> MenZa: it's alright, thanks anyway.
[07:52] <Zylstra555> rmdir /var/backup --ignore-fail-on-non-empty did not work.
[07:52] <DigitalKiwi> rm -r
[07:53] <DefTone> MenZa: It didn't work bud....sounds like a rave going on in my lappy.
[07:53] <Zylstra555> this may take a while...
[07:53] <eli_> Zylstra555: not sure what your simple backup does, but when you do it over the network or to an external drive you might want to look at rdiff-backup for differential backups if your current software does not handle incrementals...
[07:53] <DigitalKiwi> or rm -rf
[07:53] <Zylstra555> hurray! Its going down!
[07:53] <DigitalKiwi> probably faster if it's more than one file
[07:53] <Zylstra555> I'm so happy
[07:53] <DefTone> MenZa on that same file?
[07:53] <Zylstra555> 78.9GB free, so far
[07:53] <shamm> what generates /etc/motd?
[07:53] <MenZa> DefTone: Yes.
[07:54] <MenZa> DefTone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1043568 <- Try having a look at this thread.
[07:54] <MenZa> DefTone: I had to go through about 10 different 'models' before mine stopped with the high-pitched noice. I use 'stack', iirc.
[07:54] <Zylstra555> 61.7GB used. Thank you, all of you
[07:54] <Zylstra555> Now, to destory "Simple" backup...
[07:54] <shamm> hmm...
[07:54] <shamm> brb
[07:55] <MenZa> OH my bed, DefTone
[07:55] <MenZa> ...er, bad.
[07:55] <MenZa> DefTone: It's alsa-base.conf
[07:55] <Zylstra555> well, I need to go.
[07:55] <Zylstra555> once again, thank you
[07:55] <MenZa> Apparently that changed in Jaunty
[07:55] <gst> hi....wat do i need to install for audio playback in ubuntu?
[07:55] <MenZa> !audio | gst
[07:57] <gst> how do i have to select alsa?
[07:57] <gst> actually i am not playing any file
[07:57] <gst> but i want to use skype
[07:58] <MenZa> !skype | gst
[07:58] <MenZa> gst: Skype can be terrible with sound on Ubuntu. Read the first article.
[07:58] <gst> and call using skype is giving me an error in audio playback
[07:58] <MenZa> gst: The Skype developers are using ancient technology for their Linux builds.
[07:59] <gst> ohh..
[07:59] <MenZa> gst: There are workarounds, but they ain't pretty.
[07:59] <O__o> get rid of pulseaudio, skype will work
[08:00] <gst> how can i getrid of pulse audio?
[08:00] <O__o> try killall pulseaudio
[08:01] <Vulc|Laptop> is there anything out there like iptraf that lets me see traffic around my wholde network?
[08:01] <O__o> but i uninstall the pulseaudio server and sound works
[08:01] <Vulc|Laptop> trying to root out where my bandwidth is going; I'm only getting .75mbps out of a 15mbps connection right now
[08:03] <O__o> gst, in system, preference, then sound:  i pick alsa for everything and uninstall pulseaudio now no more sound problem
[08:03] <DefTone> crap I'm a noob
[08:04] <aaron11> herlo
[08:04] <aaron11> lo
[08:05] <aaron11> helo
[08:05] <aaron11> ok
[08:05] <WholeGrains> hi
[08:06] <gst> hi...
[08:06] <turtle_> hi
[08:06] <turtle_> hi!
[08:06] <gst> O_o, i just changed everything in sound settings to alsa...
[08:07] <O__o> gst, does your skype has sound now?
[08:07] <gst> nopes
[08:07] <gst> stil trying
[08:07] <O__o> gst, in skype option preference, u have to pick the right device
[08:08] <O__o> sound in and sound out option in skype
[08:08] <O__o> gst, r u using webcam mic?
[08:08] <O__o> gst, i am using ubuntu 8.04
[08:09] <O__o> gst, maybe different version is different
[08:09] <gst> i use ubuntu9
[08:09] <gst> but that may not be a problem i guess
[08:09] <aaron11> helo
[08:09] <aaron11> flo
[08:09] <aaron11> flof
[08:09] <aaron11> lof
[08:09] <aaron11> lo
[08:09] <FloodBot2> aaron11: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:09] <gst> i went to option of skype
[08:09] <O__o> gst, what do u see?
[08:09] <gst> could not see any preference there
[08:10] <aaron11> ok
[08:10] <O__o> gst, sound devices
[08:10] <O__o> gst, skype option | sound devices
[08:11] <O__o> gst, then u will see sound in, or sound out, or ringing
[08:11] <gst> s..sound devices i saw
[08:11] <gst> s
[08:11] <DefTone> MenZa u there ?
[08:11] <O__o> gst, r u using a webcam?
[08:11] <aaron11> helo Loafers
[08:11] <MenZa> DefTone: Yep
[08:11] <Loafers> aaron11, hi?
[08:12] <gst> yes i want to use webcam, but never used it even
[08:12] <DefTone> i'm kinda a noob when it comes to this...
[08:12] <MenZa> DefTone: Any news?
[08:13] <gst> in sound in, sound out, ringing which one do i need selec?t
[08:13] <gst> default device is there currently..
[08:13] <O__o> gst, r u using webcam mic or mic plug into your sound card?
[08:13] <O__o> gst, http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/8370/ see more pulseaudio problem if u have any
[08:13] <DefTone> nah it's still making that noise...
[08:14] <O__o> gst, does your webcam has buildin mic?
[08:14] <gst> i tried both..with a headphone and without tat
[08:14] <MenZa> DefTone: And you changed it in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, yes?
[08:14] <O__o> sound out and ringing i pick Default Device
[08:15] <MenZa> DefTone: Keep trying some items in the list I sent you a minute ago. It could be any of them, really.
[08:15] <O__o> Sound in i pick USB device because i am using webcam mic
[08:16] <DefTone> if one doesn't work should I delete it?
[08:16] <gst> how can i check whether my webcam has mic or not?
[08:16] <MenZa> DefTone: Yes
[08:17] <gst> i tried installing vsound, but package no found messAGE
[08:18] <O__o> gst, try read this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1160302
[08:18] <O__o> gst, by tacantara
[08:19] <MenZa> DefTone: There really isn't much to do, other than try as many as you can.
[08:19] <gst> wat tacantara??
[08:20] <[over]> buenos dias por error he borrado los botones de escritorio multiples de ubuntu como puedo sacarlos de nuevo?
[08:20] <MenZa> !es | [over]
[08:20] <Brando753> anyone know of a cheap modem that work in ubuntu?
[08:20] <MenZa> !hardwaer | Brando753
[08:20] <MenZa> ...
[08:20] <MenZa> !hardware > Brando753 (Please see the private message from the bot)
[08:20] <Brando753> :(
[08:21] <O__o> gst try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1153117
[08:23] <aaron11> helo
[08:23] <aaron11> isssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[08:23] <turtle_> lol @ Menza :)
[08:24] <aaron11> cannnnnn somee onee hhhelp wiiith my kkkeyborrrrrrrrrrrd
[08:24] <O__o> aaron11, whats wrong?
[08:25] <gst> O_o, to start with how can i check whether my built in mike is working or not
[08:27] <O__o> gst, buildin mic in webcam or buildin mic in laptop?
[08:29] <gst> in webcam..
[08:30] <Gnea> !keyboard | aaron11
[08:30] <gst> or i wil use external mic if tat works..
[08:30] <Gnea> aaron11: almost looks like the keys repeat themselves too fast
[08:31] <gst> i ran the command alsamixture -V all
[08:31] <gst> i got alsamixture command not found
[08:31] <jamsori> Righto, i've got Ubuntu all set up and working (yay). Only issue i have is sound. It works through headphones, but not the internal speakers. I'm using a laptop. The model is Compaq Presario CQ40-418AX
[08:32] <gst> do i need to still install something?
[08:32] <Gnea> gst: it's alsamixer, not alsamixture
[08:34] <gst> ya..i adjusted alsamixer..
[08:34] <dazobiwan> hi
[08:36] <staykov_> how do i reboot from the command line?
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> sudo reboot
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> or sudo shutdown
[08:36] <staykov_> reboot doesnt seem to do it
[08:36] <xatcon> hi
[08:36] <staykov_> ill try shutdown
[08:36] <xatcon> there is prob
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> reboot reboots here...
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> man reboot ->  reboot, halt, poweroff - reboot or stop the system
[08:37] <xatcon> dr.willis
[08:37] <xatcon> hi
[08:37] <xatcon> there is prob
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> state the actual problem then. :)
[08:37] <xatcon> i hav no sound on my lap
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> check the alsa wiki pages, or the forums for your exact laptop perhaps.   Figure out what chipset you got for sound and also  check the forums for that exact chipset, for starters.
[08:38] <xatcon> thok thanks
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> !alsa
[08:39] <jamsori> Would that apply if you have sound coming through headphones but not the actual laptop speakers?
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> would what apply?
[08:40] <xatcon> actuly when i use vista its sound
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> sound is still comming from the same sound card.. just a diffrent port.
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> Unless its a USB headphones.
[08:40] <xatcon> but if i use ubuntu it disapear
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> xatcon:  so you mean to say 'sound dosetn work in ubuntu' :)
[08:40] <xatcon> ya
[08:41] <jamsori> Yeah, but sound doesn't come out of the laptop speakers for me, but it does if i plug in headphones. A google search tells me others have the problem, i'll start tracking it down, heh.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> determine the sound card chipset. check the forums for your exact chipset/laptop brand.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> jamsori:  sounds like a mixer  problem, or somthing. This a laptop or desktop?
[08:41] <xatcon> i m havin dell 1535
[08:41] <hellues> hey i am using ubuntu
[08:42] <jamsori> a laptop (Compaq Presario CQ40-418AX)
[08:42] <hellues> how can i install c++ to ubuntu with library etc.
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> hellues:  install 'build-essentials' for starters. (or was it build-essential)
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> !info build-essential
[08:42] <hellues> okey
[08:42] <psycho_oreos> !info g++
[08:42] <J-_> What kDE4 package in jaunty allows to get sound working?
[08:43] <xatcon> dr.willis is that any program doin this
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> xatcon:  Huh?
[08:43] <xatcon> 2 days back i hav my sound
[08:44] <xatcon> but  it disappear
[08:44] <der_martin> xaton: hi, do you have sound issues too ?
[08:44] <xatcon> yep
[08:44] <lion_> hi
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> xatcon:  be a bit more verbose and concise...   im not a mind reader.. You mean to say that  3+ days ago on UBUNTU you had sound, but recent updates have broken it?
[08:44] <der_martin> xaton: my sound suddenly stopped
[08:44] <Blinkiz> Hi there. I have a Logitech webcam that does not work. I have read on the Internet that downgrading USB to "Full-speed" (1.0) instead of "High-speed" (2.0), should work. All sites says I should do "rmmod echi_hcd". Problem is that this module does not even exist in Ubuntu 9.04. So how can I disable USB 2.0?
[08:44] <xatcon> yes
[08:45] <der_martin> xaton: dmesg gives me something about hda-intel: spurious response 0x80:0x0, last cmd=0xb35500
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> It helps get better help when you ask better questions.. :)
[08:45] <ikonia> Blinkiz: check what version of linux that guide is for
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> xatcon:  try booting with a earlier kernel from the grub menus.. could be some kernel issue - there have been a lot of kernel updates in the last few days.
[08:45] <xatcon>  okeeee
[08:45] <xatcon> yess
[08:45] <der_martin> ok...did anybody else experience sound problems on (K)ubuntu lately ?
[08:45] <xatcon> okeee
[08:45] <Blinkiz> ikonia, of course its for an older version. Am asking what todo under a more resent one.
[08:46] <ikonia> Blinkiz: check what module it uses for support under 9.04
[08:46] <xatcon> bye  thx dr.willis
[08:46] <der_martin> I've got an Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10) audio device
[08:46] <Blinkiz> ikonia, Yeah. that what am asking :)
[08:46] <der_martin> worked like a charm before yesterday
[08:47] <ikonia> Blinkiz: you'll need to research that, it's not likley people will know that off the top of their head, more so when you don't even have the web cam model
[08:47] <StxKriza6> hello people of ubuntu, i was trying to hide my ip on this "nickserv"/server but i failed, i am very disappointed, but still i like ubu
[08:47] <xatcon> actuly i m doctor not softwr eng.
[08:47] <xatcon> thx fr the help
[08:47] <ikonia> StxKriza6: that;s nothing t do with ubuntu
[08:47] <der_martin> xaton: what kind of dr ?
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> StxKriza6:  hiding your ip from where? irc? thats nothing todo with ubuntu. Youc an ask for a 'mask' for IRC if you want. but its not really needed
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> !mask
[08:47] <ikonia> StxKriza6: ask in #freenode
[08:47] <ikonia> !cloak
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> 'a cloak' hides your ip on IRC.
[08:47] <xatcon> i m surgeon
[08:47] <Blinkiz> ikonia, I have the webcam module. Its a Logitech Fusion. But that is not relevant. I only need to know how to disable USB 2.0 support
[08:47] <StxKriza6> ok thx
[08:48] <Blinkiz> moudle = model
[08:48] <hellues> g++ and build-essential is installed
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> StxKriza6:  the thing to note is that cloaking has NOTHING to do with 'ubuntu'
[08:48] <StxKriza6> !cloak
[08:48] <der_martin> xaton: cewl, I'm on my way to final exams and then to become specialized in psycho-somatics :)
[08:49] <xatcon> gd
[08:49] <der_martin> xaton: "the other side" ;)
[08:49] <xatcon> hw old ur
[08:49] <der_martin> xaton: but back on topic...did you find out any news about our problem ?
[08:49] <ikonia> xatcon: this isn't a chat channel - this channel is for ubuntu support disscussion
[08:49] <hellues> build-essential and g++ is installed i have c++ now with all library etc.
[08:49] <ikonia> Blinkiz: are you sure it needs usb 1 still in 9.04 ?
[08:49] <xatcon> ok sorry
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> hellues:  and the problem is?
[08:50] <Blinkiz> ikonia, No.
[08:50] <Blinkiz> ikonia, Am just troubleshooting
[08:50] <Blinkiz> ikonia, My exact error is here: http://www.quickcamteam.net/documentation/faq/logitech-webcam-linux-usb-incompatibilities
[08:50] <xatcon> ya i hav on
[08:50] <xatcon> i m gona do this
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> I have several Logitech Cams.. with No linux support. :()
[08:50] <xatcon> use old kernal
[08:51] <hellues> Dr_Willis,  i just want to install c++. İ wonder i need to do other thing
[08:51] <xatcon> ok bye
[08:51] <hellues> i install build essential and g++
[08:51] <xatcon> thx a lot
[08:51] <der_martin> ikonia: as you mention support : can you help me with my hda-intel: spurious response 0x0:0x0, last cmd=0xb35500 problem ? since yesterday no sound at all
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> hellues:  if you installed build-essential its there then
[08:51] <ikonia> Blinkiz: inreresting thread here, not quite spot on, but backs up what you are saying http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1206775
[08:51] <ikonia> der_martin: no idea
[08:51] <Dr_Willis>   gcc - GNU project C and C++ compiler
[08:51] <der_martin> ikonia: doh!
[08:53] <jamsori> This is apparently my chipset: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=7682a7b8441f840e3c938d9d566df408b3e027e2 - can someone tell me what my chipset is so i can search around on Google some more?
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> jamsori:  lspci | grep Audio
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> In my case for example -->
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> $ lspci | grep Audio
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[08:54] <jamsori> Ah, great, thanks!
[08:55] <jamsori> Mine comes up with 2:
[08:55] <jamsori> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[08:55] <jamsori> 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series]
[08:55] <jamsori> Which one would i use?
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> no idea.
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> unless you got an onboard and  one on a card...
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> but at least you got a starting point.
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> Its possible your card for some reason shows up as 2 devices
[08:59] <heo> What is the difference btw the quotes ' and " in the PHP snippets? ...
[08:59] <heo> ... http://pastebin.com/m2505b3cd
[08:59] <heo> String? and ?
[09:00] <jamsori> From what i can tell, one is used for HDMI, but (obviously) i'm no pro.
[09:01] <lstarnes> heo: in " (double quotes), escape sequences (like \n for a newline) are processed and variables (like $foo) are substituted with their values
[09:01] <lstarnes> heo: both " and ' produce strings
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> sounds liek it works like in BASH  the way bash handles " and ' is similer to that.
[09:03] <lstarnes> Dr_Willis: most languages handle it like that
[09:04] <Dr_Willis> jamsori:  theres some mention of that card here -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/267658
[09:05] <Guest19230> anyone here had trouble with the SFD in Sept not accepting their site when registering
[09:05] <Dr_Willis> jamsori:  is it a Toshiba laptop?
[09:06] <jamsori> It is a Compaq CQ40-418AX
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> jamsori:  Quote from that URL -> solved adding this line at the end of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> options snd-hda-intel model=toshiba
[09:06] <thedancingdeer> need help!! please let me know how i can get stereo output from my front audio jack! its working but i can hear only the beats, not the voice!
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> perhaps same fix may work.
[09:07] <phantomcircuit> my harddrive hasnt spun down since i booted up, im on 9.04 fully upto date
[09:08] <Guest19230> anyone had the problem of the SFD site not registering their site
[09:08] <kermit> so 9.04 is not Long Term Support.. when the 'support' runs out, am i expected to reformat or is there some less destructive way to upgrade?
[09:09] <phantomcircuit> kermit, you can upgrade in place usually
[09:09] <blackfire94> siema
[09:09] <aharv> Hello!
[09:10] <blackfire94> hello
[09:10] <aharv> can i ask a very newb question here?
[09:10] <blackfire94> hello
[09:11] <blackfire94> sdf
[09:11] <blackfire94> sdfdf
[09:11] <aharv> hey blackfire
[09:11] <Guest19230> if you don't mind not getting an answer, they don't seem to acknowldege anyone on here
[09:11] <blackfire94> merma has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[09:11] <s4u> nybudy help me on ubuntu 9.04
[09:11] <blackfire94> pisze mi
[09:11] <blackfire94> co to?
[09:11] <aharv> was just wondering, whats the comman in bash to move a directory?
[09:11] <aharv> command*
[09:12] <prince_jammys> aharv: mv somedir someplace
[09:12] <lstarnes> Guest19230: you usually won't get any acknowledgement unless someone has an answer for your question or another question to ask you
[09:12] <blackfire94> aha
[09:12] <rahmu> kermit: upgrade is really easy, so when support runs out you'll upgrade VERY easily
[09:12] <aharv> i got an answer :)
[09:12] <blackfire94> siema musze lecieć
[09:12]  * Dr_Willis for one has NO idea what 'SFD' Site even is...
[09:12] <prince_jammys> BlackMage: is that polish?
[09:12] <Guest19230> Software Freedom Day 2009
[09:13] <prince_jammys> BlackMage: sorry, wrong nick.
[09:13] <Dr_Willis> Guest19230:  that means almost as little to me as SFD :)
[09:13] <Guest19230> hard to figure out what is sent back there is that much clatter and stuff with the messages
[09:13] <kermit> rahmu: so you just boot off a cd and install on top of the existing partition?
[09:13] <Guest19230> www.softwarefreedomday.com
[09:13] <rahmu> you don
[09:13] <rahmu> you don't even have to do that
[09:13] <prince_jammys> !upgrade
[09:13] <rahmu> here you go
[09:14] <kermit> ty
[09:14] <master> kermit the frog! <3
[09:14] <Dr_Willis> 'its not easy being green'
[09:16] <djyoung4> i have a problem with the sound on my computer.  the sound that plays on the default login screen plays over and over again and it gets progressively quieter.  no other sound plays though
[09:16] <prince_jammys> that's bizarre
[09:17] <rahmu> what is ?
[09:17] <Guest19230> http://softwarefreedomday.org/
[09:17] <hassanakevazir> djyoung4, whats the out put of "lspci | grep Audio" ?
[09:17] <prince_jammys> djyoung4's problem
[09:17] <kermit> rahmu, prince_jammys: ty
[09:17] <rahmu> anytime
[09:17] <Dr_Willis> I suck at trouyble shooting Audio. My 4 desktops and laptops all work. :)
[09:17] <s4u> any buddy can help me out on lstp with ubuntu
[09:17] <djyoung4> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[09:18] <hassanakevazir> djyoung4, yes, is it a toshiba or hp laptop, I heard there is a problem with that sound card
[09:18] <djyoung4> hp
[09:18] <djyoung4> hp pavilion dv4t
[09:19] <aharv> prince_jammys, awesome
[09:19] <prince_jammys> :)
[09:20] <hassanakevazir> djyoung4, try #28 and #29, see if it works, if it does, do tell me here that it worked, 3rd person I see that has this problem. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/274424
[09:21] <d0wn> hi, my ~/Movies folder has the permissions "drwxrwxr-x
[09:21] <d0wn> oops
[09:21] <aharv> anyone using phpeclipse 3.5 on jaunty?
[09:21] <d0wn> hi, my ~/Movies folder has the permissions "drwxrwxr-x", how do I get my music folder to have the same ones?
[09:21] <spO>  if you upgrade wine /install a new version of wine, do you have to reinstall windows programs?
[09:22] <prince_jammys> d0wn: chmod 775 ~/Music
[09:22] <lstarnes> spO: usually, no
[09:22] <prince_jammys> d0wn: chmod -R 775 ~/Music  if you want it to apply to all subdirs.
[09:22] <d0wn> prince_jammys: thanks
[09:22] <MikeSeth> spO: nah I dont think so
[09:23] <spO> upgrading wine requires a reboot, right?
[09:23] <prince_jammys> d0wn: welcome.
[09:23] <lstarnes> spO: bi
[09:23] <spO> it ididn't promp[t me
[09:23] <lstarnes> spO: oops. no
[09:23] <komputes> djyoung4: what distro/release are you using on your hp?
[09:23] <MikeSeth> spO: no, I don't see why it would
[09:24] <ayi> 我的ubuntu8.04没有声音
[09:24] <djyoung4> ubuntu 9.04
[09:24] <komputes> djyoung4: try the highlighted post here: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/71735
[09:28] <leo1> I have nvidia geforce 6150, ubuntu 9.04. I can't enable desktop effects. I have installed nvidia driver 180
[09:28] <leo1> Please help
[09:29] <ikonia> leo1: how did you install the driver ?
[09:29] <leo1> I did it from System-> Administration -> Hardwire driver
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> You did reboot afterwards?
[09:30] <ikonia> leo1: what happens when you try to enable desktop effects ?
[09:30] <leo1> yes
[09:30] <leo1> i did
[09:30] <Rabbitbunny> How can I darken the scrollbar on the terminal window?
[09:30] <komputes> leo1: reboot into recover mode and run xfix from the recovery menu
[09:30] <leo1> it says "Desktop effects cannot be enabled after "searching for drivers""
[09:31] <komputes> Rabbitbunny: change your theme, system > preferences > appearance
[09:31] <hassanakevazir> !ubotu
[09:32] <komputes> leo1: Go to System-> Administration -> Hardwire driver and make sure the nvidia driver is enabled (green dot)
[09:32] <djyoung4> ok so whoever that was that helped me im sorry i didnt see your name but you fixed my sound problem.  thank you so much
[09:33] <leo1> komputes: it is enabled
[09:33] <komputes> djyoung4: awesome
[09:33] <MaYobi> hello
[09:33] <komputes> djyoung4: thanks for the feedback
[09:33] <hassanakevazir> djyoung4, using which method? the one in the bug report or launchpad answers?
[09:33] <djyoung4> thank you komputes it works perfectly now.  is there a way to turn up the volume louder though
[09:33] <komputes> leo1: do you know about recovery mode?
[09:34] <leo1> i haven't tried it yet
[09:34] <komputes> djyoung4: in the top right panel, the volume control
[09:34] <leo1> i will try and report here
[09:34] <komputes> leo1: when you reboot press esc until you get GRUB then select the second option (recovery)
[09:34] <djyoung4> komputes: its all the way up and it still seems quiet
[09:34] <leo1> ok
[09:34] <komputes> leo1: then you select xfix
[09:35] <leo1> ok thanks
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> I hate how they hide that recovery stuff to make the grub menu look more 'user friendly' :)
[09:35] <djyoung4> and hassanakevazir the launchpad one
[09:35] <MaYobi> sory for my english, bot i have a problem and i can't find answer... i'm setup Ubuntu amd64, and can't compile the driver for Zyxel p 630s ee
[09:35] <leo1> i will try that
[09:35] <komputes> djyoung4: in the volume control window you may only have some volume levels, press preferences and turn them all on
[09:36] <komputes> djyoung4: you will find a secondary level that you need to bring up, usually speaker, front, master, pcm
[09:36] <prince_jammys> Dr_Willis: that's one of those 'user friendly' things that's more unfriendly than friendly.
[09:37] <djyoung4> komputes: that made it louder thanks
[09:37] <Rabbitbunny> komputes: Thanks.
[09:38] <komputes> djyoung4: sweet, I'll update that answers page to say it works with the hp pavilion dv4t on 9.04
[09:38] <radeko> helo
[09:38] <gst> how can i check whether inbuilt mic is working or not?
[09:39] <komputes> gst: applications > sound and video > sound recorder
[09:39] <radeko> gst i go to hotel
[09:39] <komputes> gst you may need to tweak settings by going into the volume control (speaker icon top right corner panel)