[01:37] <newz2000> Riddell: sorry I missed you, yes, you will have that available, I finished testing today but you may not be using it until your new site goes live
[11:09] <cjwatson> ogra: hmm.  so, I just double-checked both coreutils and busybox dd, and they both malloc a buffer at least as big as the blocksize
[11:10] <cjwatson> ogra: so maybe my advice to use bs=$size count=1 wasn't so hot after all
[11:10] <cjwatson> ogra: I'm slightly concerned about rounding errors from the bs=1M option though
[11:11] <cjwatson> ogra: but maybe rounding errors aren't much of a problem - anyway, sorry but I think perhaps this needs to go back to your previous divide and bs=1M solution
[11:11] <cjwatson> sorry, couldn't check on the spot when you asked last night
[11:11] <Riddell> newz2000: my new site?
[11:23] <cjwatson> could somebody review base-installer, ubiquity, and ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu?
[11:23] <cjwatson> those are mine or sponsored by me
[12:23] <Riddell> cjwatson: I'll take a look
[12:23] <cjwatson> ta
[12:42] <ogra> cjwatson, i'll change back to the divider code later today though for a swap file it really shouldnt matter that much if there are rounding errors
[13:02] <ogra> cjwatson, how about that one ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/504460/ no rounding errors :)
[13:08] <ogra> or in a better readable version http://paste.ubuntu.com/504469/
[13:14] <cjwatson> ogra: go ahead, thanks
[13:14] <ogra> with the last one ?
[13:14] <ogra> or the former ?
[13:14] <ogra> :)
[13:15] <ogra> make a pick
[13:15] <cjwatson> I don't mind, flip a coin
[13:15] <ogra> heh
[13:16] <ogra> i'll pick the latter
[17:04] <rsalveti> ogra_ac: the package opengles-sgx-omap3 built fine yesterday, but I can't still see the packages at our repository, just the sources
[17:04] <rsalveti> and the build status is Uploading build on cushaw
[17:04] <rsalveti> 18 hours ago, is this normal?
[18:35] <cjwatson> rsalveti: no, that's odd, ask #launchpad for help (better during working hours)
[18:36] <cjwatson> I'll ask on the internal soyuz channel just in case
[18:37] <ogra_ac> rsalveti, oh, doo you have multiverse enabled in your image ?
[18:37] <ogra_ac> it surely went there
[18:37] <cjwatson> no, it's stuck somewhere
[18:37] <ogra_ac> ah, k
[18:38] <cjwatson> I can't see why - I've asked
[18:38] <cjwatson> may not be anyone around who can check just now though
[18:39] <ogra_ac> yeah
[19:50] <rsalveti> ogra: cjwatson: oh, ok, so it seems to be a bug at launchpad
[19:51] <rsalveti> np, will be off now, going to the airport, but will try to ping someone tomorrow
[20:02] <ogra_ac> you fly out already ?
[20:02]  * ogra_ac hasnt even packed


[00:01] <persia> ianm_, Most JACK apps don't support pulse: the strong argument for JACK is sample-accurate synchronisation from multiple sources, which is important for mixing.  Pulse can compete with JACK for latency, but doesn't have the alignment API (unless I missed something somewhere)
[00:12] <ianm_> persia: I see, thanks
[01:37] <Fezzler> Is there an ASIO4ALL for Ubuntu?
[02:04] <persia> I don't believe so, but I don7t beleive one is required.  I strongly suspect ALSA performs an essentially similar function.
[02:05] <ronj> yes, alsa/ffado do what you expect
[02:05] <ronj> Fezzler, the audio stack under linux is quite different from what you know under window
[02:05] <persia> Oh, right, FFADO also (although the few bits I found searching about asio4all didn't seem to indicate Fireware support)
[11:54] <sladen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/10.10release_notes  <<--- linked in the release notes is 404
[11:56] <persia> ScottL, ^^
[11:56] <persia> holstein, Maybe you know?
[11:56] <persia> sladen, -devel is often a better-targeted channel to catch some folk: this is mostly a support channel (but it doesn't matter this time: not enough conflicting traffic)
[12:46] <BrendanT> I'm confused, ubuntu studio 10.10 is apparently available for download on softpedia but ubuntustudio.org says nothing.?
[12:47] <persia> Yeah, the Ubuntu Studio release team is sleeping.  Should get updated soon.
[12:48] <persia> It's released, but the website update is waiting for the right people to wake up.
[12:49] <BrendanT> Oh ok? Can I ask some questions about it for home use that I can't seem to find the answers for on google?
[12:49] <persia> Yes.  That's the entire purpose of this channel.  No promises anyone here happens to know the answer.
[12:50] <sladen> persia: which -devel?
[12:51] <persia> sladen, #ubuntustudio-devel, but the folk you need are likely a couple hours from being active.
[12:51] <persia> (and the key folk are probably also in #ubuntu-devel, #ubuntu-release, etc.)
[12:51] <BrendanT> It's only nooby stuff. I'm wondering If ubuntustudio does all the things normal things that ubuntu does + the multimedia things because i'd still like all the things in the main release but really want all the audio apps that are nicely setup in studio
[12:52] <persia> Do you already have Ubuntu installed?
[12:54] <BrendanT> Yeah but I'm doing a fresh install because i've broken heaps of things and it freazes up alot. i heard i can install the studio packages from synaptic on a standard ubuntu but does it work just as good?
[12:54] <persia> Yes, absolutely, without question.
[12:54] <persia> Now, to temper that statement, some users of Studio have very tight latency requirements, and push their hardware to the limit.
[12:55] <persia> These users are better served by uninstalling the integration with instant messaging, automatic network detection, etc.: basically all the stuff that might grab your processor at an inconvenient moment.
[12:55] <persia> if you install from the Studio media, these things aren't installed by default.
[12:55] <persia> Plus you get a slightly different theme.
[12:55] <BrendanT> Isn't the real time kernel for stopping those things?
[12:55] <persia> (not that it's terribly hard to change themes or anything)
[12:56] <persia> There's no realtime kernel available for 10.10.  Further, I don't believe most people need it.
[12:56] <BrendanT> Oh why not? i thought it was crucial for keeping the audio processes from being interupted?
[12:57] <persia> If you're really pushing your hardware tight enough to require realtime, your chance of XRUNS due to the inability of the HW to keep up is likely higher than your chance of delay: JACK enforces sample-accuracy even with some latency.
[12:57] <persia> Doesn't make that much difference, assuming one isn't also trying to compile the kernel or something.
[12:58] <persia> Mind you, if one is running on limited hardware, or trying to do 18 things at once, etc. one might want to override some things.
[12:58] <persia> that said, if one is doing that, it's probably time to think about a hardware upgrade.
[12:59] <BrendanT> Ok - sort of understand -. Well Its all just for playing around with at the moment because my m-audio fast track ultra sadly doesnt have a linux driver so i have to go to windows to use it.
[13:00] <persia> There are a few niche cases where one does need realtime, perhaps interacting with out-of-box analog systems with very high fidelity, but at the cost of an audio interface and preamps that can handle that, the price of a modern processor is not very high.
[13:00] <persia> For playing around, there's absolutely no value to realtime: just make sure to turn off the more annoying time-wasters when doing complex stuff.
[13:01] <BrendanT> Could i make a separate user to log into when i want to do 'complex stuff' that didnt run the time-wasters or do they all start up no matter what?
[13:02] <persia> You might be able to create a separate user, and turn off some of the indicator stuff.
[13:02] <persia> But I'm not convinced you can turn off Network Manager except on a system-wide basis.
[13:02] <BrendanT> hmm
[13:03] <persia> Not processing mail, not running gwibber, etc. is easy.
[13:03] <persia> But really, don't worry about it.  Install the stuff you want and play.
[13:03] <persia> If you end up discovering that this one effect you really want isn't happening because you don't have the resources, start looking at how you can conserve resources.
[13:04] <BrendanT> Ok. so just install the ubuntustudio-audio package?
[13:04] <persia> That will get you the standard set of audio tools.
[13:05] <persia> You might also want ubuntustudio-audio-plugins
[13:05] <persia> If your menu is getting too cluttered, ubuntustudio-menu might help some.
[13:08] <BrendanT> hm it appears to be a link to a bunch of other packages already available in the normal ubuntu
[13:08] <persia> We call it a "metapackage", but yes, that's what it is.
[13:09] <BrendanT> so ubuntu studio is just a different assortment of packages? rather than new features?
[13:09] <persia> Ubuntu Studio is just a flavour of Ubuntu, much like Ubuntu Desktop.  A selection of some of the packages in Ubuntu that some folk try to make sure work together.
[13:10] <BrendanT> ok i thought there might have been later versions of jack, alsa and things like that because i notice some apps can be very old in the repositories
[13:10] <persia> No, it's all the same thing.
[13:11] <BrendanT> I'd like to be able to play music through banshee at the same time as i have say, ardour, using jack but jack seems to cut off anything else from playing.
[13:11] <persia> There's been some changes in direction, so this release wasn't as focused as some of the past ones.  We've a new track now, and an increasingly clear target for 11.04
[13:11] <persia> You can install pulseaudio-jack, or you can use two different sound cards.
[13:12] <BrendanT> but all changes you did would still be packaged for the normal ubuntu?
[13:12] <persia> Absolutely.  That's the point.
[13:12] <BrendanT> pulseaudio-module-jack ?
[13:13] <BrendanT> There is no pulseaudio-jack package
[13:13] <persia> Yes, that's one of the ways you can make pulse and jack work together.
[13:13] <persia> Sorry: my mistake.
[13:13] <BrendanT> im using alsa i believe
[13:13] <persia> Personally, I really recommend the two-cards solution.
[13:13] <persia> Banshee is using ALSA directly, without pulse?  That's not default.
[13:14] <BrendanT> oh i thought it was, i dont know
[13:14] <BrendanT> whats the difference between pulseaudio and alsa?
[13:15] <BrendanT> also, i dont have 2 sound cards unless someone makes a driver for my fasttrack ultra
[13:15] <persia> USB headphones are increasingly inexpensive, but yeah, good drivers would be better.
[13:15] <persia> pulse and ALSA are different layers.
[13:16] <persia> pulse is a software mixing daemon that lets applications play stuff and then gets it to the right sound cards, resampling or mixing as needed.
[13:16] <persia> ALSA is both a userspace library and a set of drivers that provide a unified interface to many sorts of sound cards.
[13:17] <BrendanT> where could i go to throw a wad of cash towards anyone willing to make the driver for it?
[13:17] <persia> most applications talk to pulse (directly, through ALSA compat layer, or through OSS compat layer), or to JACK.  pulse and JACK can talk to audio interfaces (including ALSA interfaces, FFADO interfaces, BlueZ interfaces, etc.).
[13:18] <persia> You can't really.  There's a couple groups of folk that will do it for free if someone provides specifications.
[13:18] <persia> You could definitely hire folk (and there are folk that are available for hire) to work on it, if you had specifications and the free places took too long.
[13:19] <persia> But before you can get anywhere, you need specifications.  M-Audio tends to be good about Linux support, so if there isn't any, someone else probably owns some part of the device and won't share.
[13:20] <persia> I'd recommend talking to M-Audio first, and trying to understand the situation.  If it looks like it just needs developer-time, then you probably want to hire an ALSA engineer.  Talking to the ALSA folk could probably get you recommendations to a good forum to hire such a person.
[13:21] <BrendanT> damn seems like a big job
[13:22] <persia> The hard part is usually tracking down why there isn't a driver: lots of coordination, and careful friendly work with hardware companies.
[13:22] <persia> Once you know why, if it's fixable, that part is usually easy.
[13:22] <persia> But some stuff isn't fixable, unfortunately (like patents on stuff by companies now out of business, with the patent farm owned by a known litigious firm, and the company making stuff using a grandfathered license, etc.)
[13:25] <BrendanT> Well M-Audio certainly aren't out of business.
[13:25] <persia> No, but they have been around for a while, and absorbed MidiMan years back, etc.  It's hard to know what components are in their hardware, or if the companies that make those components have changed, etc.
[13:26] <persia> Anyway, go ask them.  If you start with the assumption that they would be happy to grant you drivers, and you make clear that you aren't asking them to do the development, just trying to understand the legal restrictions, you have a decent chance.
[13:29] <BrendanT> It'd be very difficult for me to ask it as I'm terrible at writing emails and such and dont understand very well what im even asking for, but ill try. should i email them or make a thread on their forum asking people if a driver could be made and say that im a linux user and cannot use the device with a driver etc...
[13:30] <persia> And maybe say that you're willing to hire a kernel developer, but are seeking documentation *OR* an explanation why the documentation can't be distributed.
[13:31] <BrendanT> hiring a developer is probably a bit much, wouldnt it cost alot?
[13:32] <persia> Depends on the developer :)  Like I said before, if you have docs, there are some developers who are happy to write drivers in exchange for a device.
[13:33] <persia> Mind you, you might not want to do this for a high-end digital mixing console :)
[13:33] <BrendanT> http://www.64studio.com/node/699
[13:34] <BrendanT> I think alot of other people have probably already tried
[13:35] <BrendanT> I might have to sell it for something. Do you know any similar device that works on linux?
[13:36] <persia> It's a 4x8 USB interface?
[13:37] <BrendanT> 8x8 apparently
[13:38] <persia> I don't happen to know of such a thing offhand.  My biggest is 4x6.  I'd have to refer to alsa-project.org as the best source of information.
[13:39] <BrendanT> what do those numbers mean?
[13:39] <persia> You'll likely get best support if you find something with "class-complaint" USB drivers.
[13:39] <persia> inputs/outputs
[13:40] <BrendanT> ahk figured. apparently my device is 'compliant' i think but becuase its a bit fancy it doesnt quite work
[13:40] <BrendanT> http://www.musicador.com/uploads/2007/12/m-audio-fast-track-ultra_front-rear.jpg
[13:41] <persia> Hrm?  If it's "fancy" or requires "special" drivers, it's not "class-compliant"
[13:42] <ScottL> BrendanT, there are many knowledgeable people, with quite a varied background, on #opensourcemusicians, that would be a good place to ask about a similar audio interface that works on linux as well
[13:42] <persia> "Class-compliant" has a special meaning for USB devices: it means that the HW works with the base class specification in the USB docs, so no special drivers are required.
[13:42] <ScottL> BrendanT, if you don't mind opening your computer you could get an m-audio delta44 or delta66 (this will also give you reduced latency due to the PCI card connection)
[13:43] <BrendanT> ok nvm only the fast track pro is listed, not ultra. still there is only a few people in the world that have gotten the pro version to work because it needs a patch from alsa to work, thats what i read anyway
[13:43] <BrendanT> im on a laptop
[13:43] <persia> If you can find out which patch, it might be sortable.
[13:43] <ScottL> right, how about a firewire card?  i believe those to be better supported
[13:44] <ScottL> but i agree with persia, you can try the patch first for the hardware you already have
[13:45] <BrendanT> na i've read heaps about it and it seams that nobody can get it to work so wont bother with that dead end road.


[14:40] <blackflow> The updater app doesn't seem to be working, I haven't seen it in weeks, and the updates are configured to daily, display immediately. running apt-upgrade shows lots of updates. What could be wrong?
[14:40] <blackflow> (16.10)
[14:41] <Norux> does anybody have time for an error i get when i do "sudo apt-get update" or "sudo apt-get upgrade"? error message here: http://termbin.com/szap
[14:41] <k1l_> Norux: i dont see an error there
[14:42] <Norux> k1l_: well i can't update, upgrade or install anything
[14:42] <k1l_> Norux: can you manually copy the output from terminal to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[14:43] <soop> blackflow: are you getting an error?
[14:44] <Norux> k1l_: sorry i didn't check the output before pasting ^^ here you go: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23739232/
[14:44] <soop> Norux: and if you do a apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:44] <soop> well it says its ignoring a file you renamed, that's all
[14:44] <Norux> soop:
[14:45] <Norux> soop: i can't install stuff
[14:45] <soop> at least that's what I'd think from the error
[14:45] <k1l_> Norux: did you rename/copy/mv stuff there?
[14:45] <soop> ok so if you do a "sudo apt-get install screen"
[14:45] <soop> what's the output
[14:46] <Norux> k1l_: no.
[14:46] <k1l_> Norux: can you show a "ls -al /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ | nc termbin.com 9999" ?
[14:46] <soop> then do a "sudo apt-get install -f"
[14:46] <soop> K1L: you can drive ;)
[14:47] <Norux> k1l_: http://termbin.com/jg3a
[14:49] <k1l_> Norux: seems something made a backupfile of that file when creating a new one.  but apt doenst like the renaming sheme. i would suggest to move that file somewhere else or delete it. to delete it do"sudo rm /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades.ucf-old"
[14:49] <soop> wait
[14:49] <soop> is his current file broken though before deleting the original
[14:50] <k1l_> soop: no
[14:50] <oniichan> can you help me to fix ssh error
[14:50] <soop> just move that file someplace else first ...
[14:50] <k1l_> soop: the error says clearly that apt doesnt like the .ucf-old naming since that is not a file-format
[14:50] <soop> mv /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unatttended-upgrads.ucf.old   ~\.
[14:51] <Norux> soop: failed to preserve ownership :D
[14:52] <sruli> ducasse: you around? not much luck in other channels, weird thing is, it wasn’t the hook that made it work before, it was the wrapper "apt" and "apt-get" in /usr/local/bin if its not there it doesnt execute, why would running apt check to see it there is a copy of it in /usr/local/bin!!
[14:53] <blackflow> soop: error where? no, I mean, the updates pop up, I haven't seen it in weeks
[14:54] <soop> k1l: I'm just a fan of preserving my default files JIC ;)
[14:54] <soop> blackflow: if you run the updates, it's all fine?
[14:54] <k1l_> soop: as you can see the change of that files was already in november
[14:55] <soop> good point
[14:56] <ubinst> Hello. Can I make the ubuntu installer (16.10, amd64, default desktop flavor) reuse an existing dmcrypt(lvm(root, home)) disk layout? The wording in the installer's partition configuration tool makes me think it will write new dmcrypt headers on the disk
[14:56] <ubinst> Should I unlock the disk myself before heading into the installer?
[14:59] <ducasse> sruli: not sure what you mean, but /usr/local/bin is before /usr/bin in $PATH
[14:59] <zach2825> Hello and thank you in advanced, does anybody know where the configs are for what shows up in the notification area? I have an extra icon that does nothing up there but i can't remove it
[15:02] <Menzador> !info pastebin
[15:03] <kk4ewt> pastebinit ?
[15:03] <kk4ewt> !info pastebinit
[15:04] <kk4ewt> Menzador, ^^
[15:05] <Menzador> kk4ewt - I know. I wanted to cross-check a package from a derivative of Ubuntu. Thank you!
[15:06] <oniichan> hello
[15:07] <blib> I've  a machine behind a dynamic ip (comcast) - how can I get a name for the machine so that I can ssh from outside? )
[15:07] <ducasse> blib: look up "dynamic dns" and find someone that offers it free or paid.
[15:08] <mcphail> blib: you need to register with a dynamic dns service and use their software to keep the name updated
[15:08] <_adb> unless you're behind a nat
[15:08] <soop> blib: you'll also need to create a route via your router to that machine
[15:08] <Bromskloss> Hi! Does ticking "Turn off Secure Boot" during installation disable it permanently, or only during installation? If permanently, can't I just as well turn it off in BIOS?
[15:09] <ducasse> Bromskloss: it only turns off the actual validation of kernel modules, not secure boot itself. software can't do that.
[15:10] <blib> soop: mcphail: ducasse: Is there a script I can run on my home machine, that extracts the ip and updates the dns on namecheap?
[15:10] <blib> That is all I need, right?
[15:10] <Bromskloss> ducasse: Hmm, I thought the BIOS were going to ask me for that password  during boot.
[15:11] <ducasse> blib: a lot of routers have built-in support for a variety of ddns services.
[15:11] <Menzador> Bromskloss - I believe the installation option temporarily disables Secure Boot long enough for DKMS to install proprietary modules it needs. You may want to check in #ubuntu-devel , though, of you want a more definitive answer.
[15:11] <soop> blib: yes ... not sure about namecheap but I know dyndns etc support this ...
[15:12] <ducasse> Menzador: Bromskloss no, software cannot just disable sb - that would defeat the point of having it. it uses mokutil to tell the shim not to verify kernel modules so dkms works.
[15:12] <blib> ubuntu ddclient perhaps?
[15:12] <Menzador> Thanks for the enlightenment, ducasse
[15:13] <ducasse> Menzador: np :)
[15:13] <WildPenguin> hi guys, I have been using Linux for the last few weeks. Recently switched to Linux from Windows. Installed a lightweight distro on my old laptop which I would have had to throw into the junkyard if not for Linux.
[15:14] <WildPenguin> Can't express how happy I am with the stability that Linux provides.
[15:14] <WildPenguin> Never felt this stability on Windows.
[15:14] <Menzador> WildPenguin - That's cool. If you don't have a technical issue, we have #ubuntu-offtopic , and for Ubuntu-related discussion, we have #ubuntu-discuss
[15:15] <WildPenguin> was using WinXp to be precis.
[15:15] <WildPenguin> Just want to say thanks for the community for the help.
[15:16] <Bromskloss> ducasse: I might have misunderstood things, but in any case, I don't see it as Secure Boot being disabled by software if I have to tell the BIOS a password during boot. I thought I did that precisely _because_ software cannot disable Secure Boot.
[15:16] <Bromskloss> Menzador: Thanks.
[15:18] <ducasse> Bromskloss: a bios password has nothing to do with secure boot itself, it is a separate bios feature.
[15:18] <Taunka> Hello peeps! Where can I donwload a live image for Ubuntu touch?
[15:18] <Taunka> Please!
[15:18] <ducasse> !touch | Taunka
[15:19] <JP___> Any SBC that can run ubuntu without any problems?
[15:20] <oniichan> uvuvwevwevwe onyetenyevwe ugwemubwem osas
[15:20] <ubinst> I found this question http://askubuntu.com/questions/853078/reinstall-to-existing-encrypted-partitions that is relevant to my issue described earlier, but it doesn't seem to have any answers. :(
[15:20] <JP___> Like running a qt gui and still manage databases and stuff
[15:21] <Taunka> No live image then for ubuntu touch, ducasse ?
[15:22] <oniichan> instagram.c10r.facebook
[15:22] <alfredo> OLA
[15:23] <ducasse> Taunka: i have no idea, sorry, you need to ask the touch crowd.
[15:23] <ducasse> JP___: the most widely used is the rpi by far, but you could ask in #ubuntu-arm for other ideas
[15:23] <Bromskloss> ducasse: So, what part of the system is it that receives the password I enter? I thought it was the BIOS (to tell it that I indeed wanted to disable Secure Boot, temporarily or permanently), but I guess that might not be true then.
[15:24] <jilocasin0> morning everyone
[15:25] <jilocasin0> Does anyone know how to remove old kernals from the (full) boot partition?  apt-get purge doesn't work because it's stuck in an unmet dependencies loop.
[15:26] <nicomachus> JP___: I just installed Ubuntu MATE on an rpi3 last night. works great.
[15:26] <ducasse> Bromskloss: some systems require you to set a bios password in order to access the secure boot settings, that might be the source of the confusion. the bios asking a password has no direct connection to secure boot itself.
[15:27] <ducasse> Bromskloss: check this, it has a fairly good explanation of what sb is and how it works without being bogged down in technical details: http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/secureboot.html
[15:27] <Bromskloss> ducasse: OK. It's unfortunate that it is referred to as "Turn off Secure Boot" during installation.
[15:27] <ducasse> Bromskloss: yes, it should say 'turn off secure boot validation'
[15:28] <feneco> ikonia: after all was  a google problem
[15:28] <jilocasin0> Does anyone know how to remove old kernals from the (full) boot partition?  apt-get purge doesn't work because it's stuck in an unmet dependencies loop.
[15:29] <feneco> and I reinstalled the os for nothing
[15:29] <feneco> lol
[15:29] <Bromskloss> ducasse: Does it even have anything to do with Secure Boot? If it's not the BIOS that performs the validation, couldn't such a validation take place even on a system without Secure Boot?
[15:29] <akik> Bromskloss: for me it was also a bit weird experience that the nvidia driver asks to disable the secure boot but if i say no, the driver still works
[15:31] <storiaChat>  /server irc.tiscali.it
[15:31] <gajus> when working with Ubuntu docker image, there is something odd with my terminal
[15:31] <Bromskloss> ducasse: In any case, my concrete questions are: (0) Do I need to remember or protect my password after the installation? (1) How do I know what drivers will and will not be possible to use if I do not disable validation? (2) Can I change my mind and install third-party drivers later, after installation?
[15:31] <gajus> it is as if the maximum length of the line is ~160 columns
[15:31] <gajus> and everything within is scrolled
[15:31] <gajus> what kind of setting is this?
[15:32] <Bromskloss> akik: That's odd. I feel the whole thing is a mystery step of the installation procedure.
[15:32] <ducasse> Bromskloss: yes, it does. secure boot is used to validate the shim that loads grub, which loads the kernel. the validation is preserved throughout this chain. what that setting does is tell the shim "don't bother".
[15:32] <sruli> ducasse: how can i do an strace? on #ubuntu-devel someone told me that on their machine the hook is working, i want to do an strace on my machine to see why its not working
[15:34] <ducasse> sruli: 'strace name-of-binary'. there are tons of options, you'd want to check the man page. you'd most likely want at least '-o filename' to save the output.
[15:34] <theoceaniscool> routing problem, by some reason something deletes my routes after some time, even if I'm using them. Anyone willing to help?
[15:34] <Bromskloss> ducasse: Right. So I take it that the shim validating stuff wouldn't be of any use if it wasn't itself validated by the hardware.
[15:34] <ducasse> Bromskloss: right.
[15:36] <jgcampbell300> anyone here know why my VM says "agpgart: Unsupported intel chipset (device id: 1237)
[15:37] <user07510312> does wine related question belong here?
[15:38] <jgcampbell300> user07510312, im sure someone will tell you if it shouldnt go here just ask
[15:39] <ducasse> user07510312: it might be better to try #winehq for detailed stuff
[15:40] <user07510312> okay, going to ask in winehq. it's a program specific problem
[15:42] <mcphail> blib: ddclient works for several hosts. I have a name registered with mythic-beasts, and can update my ip with a cron-job curl request
[15:43] <Bromskloss> ducasse: Do I need to remember or protect the password even after installation?
[15:44] <Asher128> hi
[15:51] <ducasse> Bromskloss: which password? bios password, encryption password, user password...?
[15:52] <ij> Does cron intentionally remove all the environment it was started with?
[15:54] <mcphail> ij: almost. Read "man 5 crontab"
[15:55] <Bromskloss> ducasse: The password that the Ubuntu installation process asks me to choose (and later enter) for the purpose of "turning off Secure Boot".
[15:58] <PCatinean> hey guys
[15:58] <PCatinean> I made a script that installs all the basic software I need when running ubuntu for the first time
[15:59] <usuario__> Hi
[15:59] <sruli> ducasse: i rebooted and it seems the hook works, there nust have been some apt stuff running in the background which meant apt didn’t reload the config (i checked ps for update-manager, that wasnt there) as there is no equivalent of apt-upgrade-post-invoke, and for some reason gui updater calls the script 3 times i will need to 1. touch a tmp file first time its run and each time it runs exit if it already exists, 2. call the script with & and wait for /var/l
[15:59] <PCatinean> I wans now to have my .ssh folder transfered to the new ubuntu instance
[15:59] <PCatinean> So I have the same hosts and same passphrase etc on the new host
[15:59] <PCatinean> and i'm not forced to re-add the new key to all my remote hosts
[15:59] <usuario__> How can i reinstall my sound card driver in ubuntu 14
[15:59] <PCatinean> How can I do that safely and securely with a bash script?
[16:00] <dStruct> usuario__: it's more of a kernel module, what's going on with it?
[16:01] <dStruct> PCatinean: have you seen Docker?
[16:01] <WildPenguin> hello, I needed Opera browser. I downloaded the package from its website. Is it safe to install that?
[16:01] <usuario__> dStruct: in the sound configuration display dummy output all the time
[16:01] <ducasse> Bromskloss: keep track of it, in case you want to turn it back on later. that is done with 'mokutil --enrolled-validation'
[16:02] <usuario__> i dont know what else do to fix the sound
[16:02] <dStruct> usuario__: that could be a number of things, if you're missing your sound output device in that preferences list you may need to adjust some things, has your sound worked previously?
[16:02] <johnal90> hello
[16:02] <Bromskloss> ducasse: OK, so it's not possible to set a new one later (without knowing the old one)?
[16:02] <xXEoflaOEXx> WildPenguin, If it is from the official website, and if it is real, install it
[16:03] <WildPenguin> ok. It's from the official website only.
[16:03] <usuario__> dStruct: Yes, it work perfectly, but later, i dont know why, put dummy output
[16:03] <dStruct> usuario__: did you do an software update perhaps?
[16:03] <usuario__> dStruct: it worked***
[16:03] <xXEoflaOEXx> WildPenguin, It is safe to install it
[16:04] <mcphail> WildPenguin: only genuine Ubuntu packages are supported here. We cannot tell you how safe the foreign package may be
[16:04] <WildPenguin> ok
[16:04] <usuario__> dStruct: No, i dont have an update available
[16:04] <WildPenguin> mcphail, it is from the official website of Opera.
[16:05] <ducasse> Bromskloss: i wouldn't think so, no. i've never had reason to play much with mokutil, since my personal machine has secure boot disabled anyway.
[16:05] <dStruct> usuario__: what I mean is, could you have done an update that caused the sound to stop working, I'm trying to understand why it would just stop, something had to have changed
[16:05] <Bromskloss> ducasse: Thanks a lot!
[16:05] <mcphail> WildPenguin: yep. That doesn't tell you if it is safe, install conflicting libraries or anything else
[16:05] <usuario__> dStruct: yes, soe changed, maybe another package broke that
[16:06] <WildPenguin> I just installed it.
[16:06] <usuario__> dStruct: I tried some solutions, but there is no result
[16:07] <usuario__> dStruct: I tried to reinstall alsa. in the console always appear this: No soundcard driver found
[16:07] <soop> WildPenguin: why did you "need" opera? *ponder*
[16:07] <dStruct> usuario__: it's probably more likely one of the sound packages was broken after the update, well if you have no new updates and you're running the latest version, I would recommend checking google or the Ubuntu support forums to see if you find any bugs or issues out there, there are lots of little tricks out there you can try to revive your sound, the kernel module itself is probably fine
[16:08] <dStruct> usuario__: it may be that it's no longer associating a valid kernel module/driver with your sound device for whatever reason
[16:08] <WildPenguin> soop, I found it faster on my android tablet.
[16:08] <usuario__> dStruct: mmm, kernel problems so...
[16:08] <WildPenguin> wanted to use it here also.
[16:08] <WildPenguin> It's working.
[16:09] <dStruct> usuario__: you may try googling something like ubuntu update no sound, or be specific with your hardware brand/model
[16:09] <ninga> hii
[16:09] <ninga> i am new to irc what is this
[16:09] <ninga> is there somebody to help me
[16:09] <nicomachus> ninga: join the #freenode channel and they can tell you about it. just type "/join #freenode" without the quotes
[16:10] <usuario__> dStruct: can result an update to ubuntu 16 ?
[16:10] <Pici> ninga: This is the official Ubuntu support channel.
[16:12] <GivenToCode> Hi, I'm trying to understand the ubuntu kernel management. We have a server running ubuntu 12.04 with a kernel 3.2.0-75-virtual #110 from Dec 16 2014. Kernel 3.2 was released sometime in early 2012. The kernel on the server seems to have a change from a commit that came in early 2013
[16:13] <GivenToCode> How can i trace the commit to the kernel I am running?
[16:14] <blackflow> soop: yes, it's just that the updater pop up doesn't appear any more.
[16:14] <NOVAtechies> ninga, what is your question?
[16:16] <bennabiy> Can anyone help me with ldap login? I had it working fine, but recently an update caused it to hang while booting. I researched the matter and found libnss-ldap to be the culprit, and replaced it with libnss-ldapd, but now my computer boots but I am unable to log in. The users show in the list, but lightdm just kicks me back to login
[16:19] <soop> blackflow: sudo apt-get install -f ?
[16:19] <soop> i'd start there
[16:22] <z1haze> what does it mean if when i try to create a symlink i get failed to create, protocol error?
[16:23] <blackflow> soop: no pending updates
[16:23] <blackflow> (or broken installations to resume)
[16:23] <blackflow> thre's no visible error, just the popup missing
[16:23] <z1haze> im attempting ln -s /path/to/source /path/to/destination ?
[16:26] <vogavo> ciao
[16:28] <pavlos> z1haze, can you write to the destination?
[16:28] <z1haze> yea but tried with sudo as well
[16:29] <akik> z1haze: the last thing on the command line would be the symbolic link that is created
[16:29] <z1haze> oh i may have forgotten the last segment
[16:33] <farmer> I have the following problem: packages A - ver 1  & B -ver 1  are installed on a system. Package A contains file X. The file X moves out of package A to package B in version 2 of both packages. When trying to update B - ver 2 it complains it is trying to overwrite X which belongs to A. How to bring this about?
[16:38] <nacc> farmer: update A first?
[16:39] <pavlos> z1haze, sudo ln -s /bin/ls /root/bob creates a symlink named /root/bob -> /bin/ls
[16:40] <wiak> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23739743/ <- question
[16:42] <nsklaus> hi there
[16:42] <z1haze> pavlos, i dunno what isnt working correctly then
[16:42] <nsklaus> dpkg -L python3-pip | grep pip.conf  <-- return nothing, is it normal pip.conf isn't packaged on ubuntu ?
[16:43] <z1haze> am i clearly screwing sometyhing up here? ln -s /home/vagrant/projects/oblivion-networks-forum/ /home/vagrant/projects/oblivion-networks/public/forum getting protocol error
[16:43] <nacc> wiak: there is no question there?
[16:43] <z1haze> im trying to access the oblivion-networks-forum when navigating to /public/forum in the other directory
[16:43] <nacc> nsklaus: is it perhaps generated at runtime?
[16:44] <nacc> nsklaus: but yes, no package ships a pip.conf
[16:44] <nsklaus> i can tell it is not generated at runtime either
[16:44] <nsklaus> so now i need a template pip.conf
[16:45] <nsklaus> to create the file myself. i wonder if this is expected of users or if it's a mistake ?
[16:45] <nacc> nsklaus: why do you need the file?
[16:46] <Pici> nsklaus: the pip documentation makes it pretty clear how to create your own.
[16:46] <z1haze> i figured it out, kinda.
[16:46] <pavlos> z1haze, the first arg has oblivion-networks-forum/ the second has oblivion-networks/ do they exist under projects/
[16:46] <z1haze> im on homestead/windows and it doesnt work through that
[16:46] <nsklaus> Pici,  pip list complain about changes, some deprecated default behavior that need to be specified in pip.conf
[16:47] <nacc> nsklaus: https://pip.pypa.io/en/latest/user_guide/#config-file presumably?
[16:48] <nsklaus> nacc,  thanks for the link, but there's no full file template, just bits and bobs
[16:48] <Pici> nsklaus: but it explains how to create your own file. "The names of the settings are derived from the long command line option..."
[16:49] <nsklaus> i tryed to make pip.conf myself out of tha, but did not succeed. apparently a specific format is required
[16:49] <nsklaus> it's a packaging problem that need to be reported maybe ?
[16:51] <Pici> nsklaus: I personally would disagree, but you are free to log your own bug for it.  In the meantime, you may want to ask #pypa (the channel for pip) about their configuration file syntax.
[16:52] <nsklaus> Pici, thanks for telling about #pypa
[17:04] <backbox_> hai
[17:05] <vogavo> ciao
[17:19] <unimouse> hi
[17:19] <unimouse> hi
[17:19] <PCatinean> dStruct, yeah I was just working with it, but I wanted to make a script for my own machine
[17:20] <PCatinean> not a container
[17:20] <unimouse> i have one question. Sorry, help me?
[17:20] <dStruct> PCatinean: gotcha, well are you wanting to push it from a central place, you could always do it via SSH?
[17:20] <darklight_> I've recently installed ubuntu on my xps13 using a dell recovery image however the touchpad does not work at all, it works fine during the install and in the bios so I can rule out an hw issue. Dmesg and Xorg logs seem ok too (https://paste.ubuntu.com/23739851/). I'm not quite sure what's wrong with it
[17:21] <dStruct> unimouse: it's always best to just ask :D
[17:21] <PCatinean> dStruct, it's about installing my def software, like chromium, spotify, skypeforlinux, add .ssh keys and all available when I boot my computer
[17:22] <dStruct> PCatinean: have you seen how OpenStack pushes stuff like that on remote machines, it's really interesting and may be related/usable for this
[17:24] <unimouse> hey dest
[17:24] <unimouse> I declare the variable $ HOME and alternate ~ to test it in a script. In promp runs the variable perfectly but in the path does not work. Because i can solve it?
[17:24] <unimouse> I declare the variable $ HOME and alternate ~ to test it in a script. In promp runs the variable perfectly but in the path does not work. Because i can solve it
[17:25] <eka> anyone knows why my xscreensaver would not suspend even when configured to
[17:25] <eka> ?
[17:25] <ducasse> eka: check with 'xset q'
[17:27] <unimouse> eka
[17:27] <unimouse> Because the files of the application controls do not work well. That's why he does not answer your orders, what subversion do you use?
[17:27] <eka> ducasse: it's on 360 but it doesn't suspend :( if I do by hand pm-suspend it works
[17:28] <ducasse> eka: oh, you meant the machine? i thought you meant the monitor, sorry.
[17:28] <unimouse> yes eka
[17:28] <unimouse> Because the files of the application controls do not work well. That's why he does not answer your orders, what subversion do you use?
[17:28] <eka> ducasse: yes the monitor will do it
[17:28] <unimouse> you use original ubuntu
[17:29] <eka> unimouse: what subversion has to do with it?
[17:29] <eka> ah ubuntu subversion? I'm using xubuntu
[17:30] <soop> Anyone know of a way to block kanji with spamassassin?
[17:30] <eka> I mean.. with suspending the monitor I'm happy
[17:32] <unimouse> dstructor you are here?
[17:32] <unimouse> dstructor
[17:33] <unimouse> alguien habla español
[17:33] <unimouse> mesmo portugués
[17:33] <dStruct> unimouse: I'm doing a few things, but I'm here more or less
[17:34] <unimouse> I declare the variable $ HOME and alternate ~ to test it in a script. In promp runs the variable perfectly but in the path does not work. Because i can solve it
[17:34] <dStruct> unimouse: I don't know the answer to that, sorry
[17:35] <dStruct> unimouse: if you're talking about a bash script variables can act differently within a script depending on how you call them
[17:35] <unimouse> and to solution?
[17:35] <unimouse> i am fucked
[17:35] <pavlos> unimouse, can you pastebin the script
[17:35] <sruli> unimouse: the translator you are using isnt doing you any favours. maybe post the script to paste.ubuntu.com so someone can take a look
[17:37] <unimouse> mmm... cd $HOME/Desktop.... cd /$HOME... cd //$HOME
[17:37] <unimouse> NOT found in the scrip
[17:38] <pavlos> unimouse, echo $HOME
[17:38] <unimouse> someone helpme?
[17:39] <ducasse> unimouse: please don't swear, keep to the !guidelines
[17:39] <unimouse> Only works in bash
[17:39] <unimouse> pavlos in path not found
[17:39] <dStruct> unimouse: do you know about ~ ?
[17:40] <dStruct> unimouse: cd ~ for example
[17:41] <unimouse> yes and is identic
[17:41] <zamanf> any way to handle iphone's music with ubuntu?
[17:41] <unimouse> good in bash and bad in path
[17:42] <dStruct> unimouse: I would do as sruli suggested and paste your script to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and provide us a link
[17:43] <pavlos> unimouse, BOB=/home/unimouse;echo $BOB; cd $BOB/Desktop; pwd (should give /home/unimouse/Desktop
[17:43] <unimouse> not
[17:45] <unimouse> x sh ... cd ~, /~,//~,
[17:45] <ducasse> !iphone | zamanf
[17:45] <unimouse> and cd "~," "/~,"/""/~,"
[17:45] <unimouse> and cd '~', '/~','//~',
[17:46] <Laurenceb> hi
[17:46] <zamanf> thank you
[17:47] <sruli> unimouse: do you run the script with sudo or logged in as root?
[17:47] <unimouse> yes
[17:47] <unimouse> with sudo, ksudo
[17:48] <funkyheadgirl> How do I install pipelight? Ubuntu 16.04
[17:48] <xXEoflaOEXx> My problem with GNOME re-appeared that when I open any apps , and close it, the background appears black, sometimes it logs me out, sometimes the GNOME desktop appeared! If I reproduce this bug several times I am able to use it normally without crashes.
[17:48] <Laurenceb> can anyone help me ssh between two machines?
[17:48] <sruli> unimouse: i dont know ksudo, does it work when called with sudo?
[17:48] <sruli> ask!
[17:48] <sruli> !ask
[17:48] <Laurenceb> I'm trying ssh with the -vv option
[17:49] <dStruct> unimouse: I would recommend you read up on shell scripting, for example doing cd "~" or cd '~' would not work, as pavlos pointed out his example works, if it's not working for you something is not right
[17:49] <Laurenceb> lets call my machines 1 and 2
[17:49] <Menzador> sruli , unimouse - kdesudo ?
[17:49] <Laurenceb> 1->2 gives no response
[17:49] <ducasse> funkyheadgirl: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760898/cant-install-pipelight-ubuntu-16-04
[17:49] <Laurenceb> 2->1 fails as only key is accepted
[17:49] <sruli> Laurenceb: please put your question into a 1 liner
[17:50] <Laurenceb> if I could just do 1->2 I would be happy, but its dead for some reason, I'm a n00b and don't know how to debug it
[17:50] <unimouse> I also tried on several different physical issues For if it was kernel security the bug and I do not understand why I do not get it
[17:50] <Menzador> !ask
[17:50] <ducasse> Laurenceb: ok, is sshd installed and running on 2?
[17:50] <xXEoflaOEXx> And the second part of the problem is that when I go to Activities, it does not show up the minimized window during this problem, but it does after this problem disappeared.
[17:50] <RonaldsMazitis> hello, I installed NFSMW on ubuntu 16.04 using wine
[17:50] <Laurenceb> ducasse: yes, 100% sure
[17:50] <RonaldsMazitis> anybody knows how to fix camera flipping upside down
[17:50] <RonaldsMazitis> on speeeding
[17:50] <Menzador> RonaldsMazitis - use #winehq for Wine app support
[17:51] <k1l_> !wine | RonaldsMazitis
[17:51] <ducasse> Laurenceb: verify with 'netstat -tulpn | grep \:22'
[17:51] <Menzador> RonaldsMazitis - and use #playonlinux if it was installed using PlayOnLinux
[17:51] <RonaldsMazitis> thanks
[17:51] <k1l_> RonaldsMazitis: wine issues are best worked on with the wine guys. take a look at the wine database first if there is already a fix
[17:51] <unimouse> i go see, tx
[17:51] <RonaldsMazitis> no fix in wine database
[17:52] <Laurenceb> ducasse: http://pastie.org/10987839
[17:52] <pavlos> Laurenceb, test is machine2 responds to ssh ... nc -zv IPofmachine2 22
[17:52] <pavlos> if
[17:52] <xXEoflaOEXx> I noticed that gnome-shell is using too much memory, like 145.8 MB.
[17:53] <unimouse> yeah, but i not defined var, i got var of environment
[17:53] <xangua> xXEoflaOEXx: is it using too much CPU?
[17:54] <Laurenceb> pavlos: no response
[17:54] <Laurenceb> pavlos: response from localhost tho
[17:54] <xXEoflaOEXx> No, it is using less on CPU
[17:54] <unimouse> If it is already environment variable I have to redefine it in my path?
[17:54] <pavlos> Laurenceb, hmmm ... so sshd is not running on m2
[17:54] <Laurenceb> ah ok
[17:55] <pavlos> Laurenceb, ducasse asked that and you said 100% yes
[17:55] <Laurenceb> heh sorry
[17:55] <Laurenceb> * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd                                    Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
[17:55] <Laurenceb> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[17:55] <xXEoflaOEXx> xangua, No, It is using less CPU from little to no amount.
[17:56] <xangua> xXEoflaOEXx: I guess there's nothing wrong then
[17:56] <unimouse> dstructor Pavlov defined one var, i get to var enviorement and not found
[17:56] <unimouse> this exeple is bad
[17:58] <unimouse> In the place of the writing in the terminal I only want to launch it from a file and it does not work, I do not understand it. Can not you help me because nobody understands?
[17:58] <xXEoflaOEXx> xangua, yes, nothing wrong but when I restart, shutdown, logout, etc., and I login, it will either show me the GNOME desktop, or it logs me out immediately with some undecorated window saying about System program problem detected. When I open any apps after GNOME Desktop showed, it went to black screen, and it either crashes to login screen or it shows me GNOME Desktop again.
[17:59] <pavlos> Laurenceb, can you try ssh-keygen -A to regenerate keys?
[17:59] <xangua> xXEoflaOEXx: oh, what Ubuntu release? Using PPAs?
[18:00] <xXEoflaOEXx> xangua, Ubuntu 16.10, and there are no ppas.
[18:00] <unimouse> xXXx you reinstall
[18:01] <xXEoflaOEXx> unimouse, I reinstalled only gnome package using sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome
[18:01] <Laurenceb> ssh-keygen: illegal option -- A
[18:02] <unimouse> xXXx you using ubun?
[18:03] <pavlos> Laurenceb, the option is minus upper A
[18:03] <unimouse> xXXx you apt-get download gnome and hour the reinstall use gDEbi that informe the dependencies
[18:04] <xXEoflaOEXx> unimouse, now my electricity is cut, so I will try it on the other time.
[18:04] <pavlos> Laurenceb, I'm on 16.04 and do not get error ... ssh-keygen -A
[18:04] <Laurenceb> pavlos: no matter, I got it to work with sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server
[18:05] <pavlos> Laurenceb, ok
[18:05] <Laurenceb> well - fixed the error message when I restart sshd
[18:05] <Laurenceb> but its still broken
[18:05] <Laurenceb> sudo restart ssh
[18:05] <Laurenceb> ssh start/running, process 17406
[18:05] <Laurenceb> debug1: Connecting to <my_ip>
[18:05] <unimouse> xXXx Try now and say the dependencies, install them alone. In principle is that you have all dependencies unfulfilled.
[18:06] <Laurenceb> pavlos: then nothing
[18:06] <xXEoflaOEXx> unimouse, I cannot turn on the laptop because of my electricity cut
[18:06] <unimouse> xXXx When you use the terminal look at the dependencies and libraries to satisfy
[18:07] <xXEoflaOEXx> unimouse, ok
[18:07] <pavlos> Laurenceb, so m2 has a fresh sshd running, you try to connect from m1 and get nothing? is there a firewall blocking port 22 on m2?
[18:07] <unimouse> you already probe?
[18:07] <Laurenceb> pavlos: no firewall, same issue from machine 1
[18:07] <xXEoflaOEXx> unimouse, what do you mean?
[18:09] <pavlos> Laurenceb, if both m1, m2 are running ssh, please verify using the nc I wrote above. You should get succeeds m1->m2 or m2->m1
[18:09] <unimouse> Have you tried reinstalling? It's just open and the program tells you everything that is incomplete. It's for browsing, since I told you ...
[18:09] <unimouse> xXx
[18:09] <Laurenceb> pavlos: I need some food, thanks for help, bbl
[18:09] <pavlos> Laurenceb, ok
[18:11] <xXEoflaOEXx> unimouse, I reinstalled gnome last few days
[18:11] <unimouse> You know the ofsec and anonymous chat for my question?
[18:12] <unimouse> Or similar, same as redhat ?
[18:13] <xXEoflaOEXx> unimouse, no
[18:14] <pavlos> unimouse, you can try #bash for help
[18:15] <unimouse> hahahaha
[18:15] <unimouse> tanks
[18:16] <unimouse> someone the canonical or ubuntu on this chat?
[18:18] <unimouse> pavlos:  I need it to create user-friendly portable executables. Can you give me a solution?
[18:20] <unimouse> hi mikelever, you helpme please?
[18:21] <pavlos> unimouse, not sure I understand what you want to do ...
[18:21] <arooni> where do i adjust settings in ubuntu to change frequency that it locks the screen?
[18:22] <CommonCents> Has anyone on here ever set up two monitors/two video cards on xubuntu?
[18:22] <wilsom_> Hello anyone could or could help me with my local my system?
[18:23] <CommonCents> wilsom_:  What is your issue?
[18:23] <CommonCents> arooni:   What flavor of ubuntu are you running?  Xubuntu? Kubuntu? other?
[18:24] <unimouse> A portable executable. So in the system that is not affected by links and do not retouch programs. Got it? / Home / my user / home / you user ..... var HOME and perfect
[18:25] <CommonCents> unimouse, are you trying to make a bootable USB stick that you can use to boot up Ubuntu, but leave nothing on the PC you are using when you shut down?
[18:25] <wilsom_> CommonCents: You will see the problem is that I have two variables in my configuration file but I do not think that is the problem, the thing is that I would like to leave my system in Spanish in Spain but there is no way despite having been following the manual at the bottom of the letter.
[18:26] <unimouse> well change
[18:27] <unimouse> please, one doctor please :,(
[18:28] <tdannecy1> timeless[m]:
[18:28] <wilsom_> hola bendroide
[18:28] <arooni> CommonCents: ubuntu 16.04
[18:29] <wilsom_> bendroide: hola
[18:29] <unimouse> hola
[18:30] <wilsom_> unimouse: hola
[18:30] <unimouse> este chat es oficial de ubuntu?
[18:30] <wilsom_> unimouse: hablas español?
[18:30] <Pici> !es | wilsom_
[18:30] <unimouse> yeah
[18:30] <unimouse> y portuges y frances
[18:30] <kaladin> hellp
[18:30] <kaladin> helo(
[18:30] <wilsom_> unimouse: sabes algo de gentoo?
[18:30] <kaladin> hello**
[18:31] <unimouse> si
[18:31] <zhenya> hello
[18:31] <unimouse> es un sistema joven
[18:31] <unimouse> lo creo hace años uno que usaba ubunto 8.x creo
[18:32] <zhenya> что такое
[18:33] <zhenya> что такое nexchat и как им пользоваться
[18:34] <CommonCents> arooni, it will be in your settings somewhere.  Either "lock" or "Brightness and Lock" or maybe screensaver settings
[18:34] <pavlos> !ru | zhenya
[18:34] <CommonCents> I run XFCE4, xubuntu, so I'm not sure where it is in the latest 16.04 Gnome/Unity based release.
[18:34] <wilsom_> unimouse: estoy en su privado ya que aqui parece ser que no se permite español
[18:35] <unimouse> khenya: Английский, пожалуйста, хватает переводчик
[18:36] <kaladin> Has anyone gotten Ubuntu 16.04 working on an Acer laptop?
[18:36] <BluesKaj> !es | wilsom_
[18:36] <k1l_> kaladin: i bet someone has it working on some acer laptop :)  if you describe your real issue people could try to help
[18:37] <kaladin> @ouroumov where to start lol
[18:37] <unimouse> i use 16 but recomd you used 14.x
[18:37] <kaladin> That was what I was thinking
[18:37] <kaladin> I first had issues causing me to get a black screen with cursor
[18:37] <kaladin> messed with some stuff
[18:37] <kaladin> then couldnt boot
[18:37] <k1l_> there is no need to recomment 14.04
[18:37] <kaladin> did some troubleshooting with grub and bios
[18:37] <ducasse> CommonCents: can't either of the two gpus support two screens by itself?
[18:37] <kaladin> reinstalled again
[18:37] <kaladin> then did a few other things
[18:37] <kaladin> reinstalled about 5 more times with differences
[18:37] <k1l_> and 14.10 is out of support long time already. so that should not be used anyway
[18:37] <kaladin> wifi isn't working
[18:38] <kaladin> basically I butchered it all
[18:38] <kaladin> I have a liveUSB I have been using
[18:38] <kaladin> but not sure if when I go into the liveUSB if I am making modifications to my Ubuntu install or the USB or both
[18:38] <xangua> kaladin: we can not know what "messed with some stuff" and "a few things" is
[18:39] <kaladin> So one of the things was that I did the boot repair
[18:39] <kaladin> and got this paste
[18:39] <kaladin> paste2.org/pggCksjJ
[18:39] <kaladin> I followed the recommended setting, went through terminal to do what it said and completed
[18:40] <unimouse> kaladin: you live usb is buy or mount?
[18:40] <kaladin> I am not sure I understand unimouse
[18:40] <kaladin> Like first I did the install
[18:40] <kaladin> then I went to try ubuntu without installing
[18:41] <kaladin> I never did the mount /mnt/sdb
[18:41] <kaladin> mount /dev/sdb /mnt*
[18:41] <kaladin> I confused myself a lot with this
[18:41] <kaladin> It seems something I did messed up my network connection
[18:41] <kaladin> so I cannot get boot-repair or network-manager to try
[18:43] <unimouse> witn cd the install ubuntu
[18:43] <kaladin> ok
[18:43] <kaladin> I also did an rxkill list and it showed I was softblocked from wifi
[18:44] <kaladin> I will start with install now fresh
[18:44] <wafflejock> kaladin, think you mean rfkill?
[18:44] <kaladin> yes typo
[18:44] <unimouse> hola, etais aún aquí?
[18:45] <EriC^^> !es | unimouse
[18:45] <wafflejock> kaladin, yeah can try to use rfkill to set the enable to true or check for any hardware switches or function key switches but otherwise would probably reinstall if things are botched and it's a new install anyway
[18:45] <kaladin> not sure why I cannot connect to any WiFi in new install or anything though
[18:45] <kaladin> that was why I wasn't sure if i Mess up my liveUSB when I tried editing
[18:47] <unimouse> justo busco personal de ubuntu. Vosotros sois de ubuntu?
[18:47] <wafflejock> kaladin, does the wifi work in the live usb?  typically from what I gather when you do the install on the system the system will get fresh configs from the deb installers regardless of what config has been changed on the USB but doesn't hurt to make a fresh one and verify the checksum on the file and the disk if you can just to be sure everything is in order
[18:47] <wafflejock> when you install Ubuntu* on the system
[18:47] <k1l_> unimouse: this channel is english only. you have been asked to write in english in here and were directed to other channels already.
[18:47] <kaladin> It is not working on the live function
[18:48] <kaladin> does the checksum change if I made any alterations?
[18:48] <nacc> kaladin: if your system is soft blocking (rfkill) the wifi, it won't work, you'll need to use rfkill to try and unblock it as wafflejock said
[18:48] <unimouse> I look for ubuntu staff for an incident, a fatal error that I do not understand. You, you're from ubuntu?
[18:49] <k1l_> !bug | unimouse
[18:49] <nacc> unimouse: there is no such thing as 'ubuntu staff', I don't think in the way you mean
[18:49] <kaladin> I tried doing sudo rfkill unblock wlan and it changed back
[18:49] <nacc> kaladin: changed back to what?
[18:49] <kaladin> but then it still wasnt working
[18:49] <wafflejock> kaladin, yeah not sure if it was you, but saw someone in here had this problem I think in the last week but not sure if it got resolved
[18:49] <nacc> !who | kaladin
[18:49] <james> \join #beans
[18:49] <ninga> hii
[18:49] <kaladin> !ubottu Sorry about that
[18:50] <kaladin> wafflejock: I am on liveUSB now trying to look at it
[18:50] <kaladin> under rfkill list everything is set to no
[18:50] <unimouse> si hago cd /~/Desktop desde un archivo .sh porque no funciona?
[18:51] <unimouse> If I make cd / ~ / Desktop from a .sh file because it does not work?
[18:51] <kaladin> wafflejock: when I go to the network thing on the top it says Wi-Fi Networks as normal but underneath says device not ready
[18:51] <turista> meow
[18:51] <nacc> unimouse: i am having a hard time understanding what you mean. You tried to `cd ~/Desktop` in a .sh file?
[18:51] <k1l_> unimouse: as what user is that script run?
[18:52] <unimouse> turista: ...
[18:52] <nacc> unimouse: `cd /~/Desktop` is nonsensical, afaict.
[18:52] <wafflejock> kaladin, not sure, you can try iwconfig to see the wireless interface in the terminal and iwlist wlan0 scanning should show available networks
[18:53] <k1l_> unimouse: and /~/ is not working anyway. just ~/Desktop
[18:53] <wafflejock> kaladin, seems like if the network manager and gui parts can't get the list though not sure those commands will get you anything either
[18:53] <unimouse> tu si que eres nonsensical
[18:53] <turista> I came up with a trouble in the system either
[18:53] <turista> también hablo español, cómo lo supo
[18:53] <nacc> unimouse: English only, yu've been told multiple times
[18:53] <unimouse> nacc chupame el pito
[18:53] <pavlos> unimouse, cd ~/Desktop is proper
[18:53]  * nacc stops trying to help.
[18:54] <k1l_> unimouse: if you are not interested in getting proper help and sticking to the guidelines please dont misuse this channel. thanks
[18:54] <kaladin> wafflejock: I tried iwconfig I got  the wlp2s0 which is what wlan0 was renamed to
[18:54] <MichaelP> 16.04 How do i blacklist radeon ?
[18:54] <kaladin> ESSID:off/any
[18:54] <kaladin> Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated
[18:54] <wafflejock> kaladin, ah okay yeah try to run iwlist wlp2s0 scanning, see if it lists networks
[18:54] <k1l_> MichaelP: usually you dont do that. what is the issue?
[18:54] <unimouse> pavlos tanks. But not found
[18:55] <kaladin> wafflejock:
[18:55] <pavlos> unimouse, so Desktop directory is not there?
[18:55] <MichaelP> k1l_: after installing amdgpu-pro.... I just get a black screen after booting
[18:55] <kaladin> wafflejock: it is just saying iwlist: unknown command 'wlp2s0' (check 'iwlist --help')
[18:56] <turista> unimouse should type in the terminal: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[18:56] <k1l_> MichaelP: is your video card supported by amdgpu pro?
[18:56] <pavlos> unimouse, there should be a /home/unimouse/Desktop directory
[18:56] <user_> hello good evening
[18:56] <wafflejock> kaladin, hmm perhaps I have different version of iwlist here or something just type iwlist to see the command format
[18:56] <unimouse> nacc suck me idiot
[18:56] <k1l_> MichaelP: usually, amd_gpu should handle the radeon install itself
[18:56] <MichaelP> k1l_: works in opensuse
[18:56] <ducasse> MichaelP: add 'blacklist radeon' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, for example
[18:56] <turista> btw I've a big question ppl
[18:57] <kaladin> wafflejock: I did iwlist wlp2s0 scanning and I get Failed to read scan data : Network is down
[18:57] <turista> why the volume is low and I can't move it forward
[18:57] <user_> I have a question, everytime i wanna listen music in Ubuntu with vlc or whatever till now my pc is frozing without listening to music now i'm constant online hours with a lot things on the screen.
[18:57] <ducasse> unimouse: please behave politely or leave.
[18:57] <MichaelP> by the way... ubuntu web sites get this site can not be reached
[18:58] <turista> user_ did you try with antoher app?¿
[18:58] <turista> like kplayer or mplayer
[18:58] <wafflejock> kaladin, you said rfkill list all says no for anything being blocked right now correct?
[18:58] <wafflejock> kaladin, no soft or hard block on the live usb?
[18:58] <xangua> user_: "with a lot things on the screen"?
[18:58] <user_> yes music player (i'm using backbox (ubuntu sctructure) but also with ubuntu itself i have problems when i'm starting music and get freeze screen everytime
[18:59] <pavlos> unimouse, try this ... cd ; ls -l | nc termbin.com 9999    give us the url
[18:59] <xangua> user_: backbox is not supported here, sorry
[18:59] <user_> sorry xangua, i try to tell i kick the cpu on it's ass
[18:59] <kaladin> wafflejock: correct rfkill makes it look all good
[19:00] <user_> but with music on and no activities everytime freezing screen
[19:00] <user_> also with ubuntu os and i can't kill the problem
[19:01] <xangua> user_: please contact backbox support
[19:01] <k1l_> user_: come back when you use ubuntu and can provide some errorlogs. we cant support backbox. please see their support.
[19:01] <user_> yes but i'm in ubuntu also
[19:01] <user_> so i'm only saying
[19:01] <user_> i'm using ubuntu now @ the moment so can somebody tell me what to do?
[19:02] <wafflejock> kaladin, hmm yah not sure really everything about that message seems to point to some hardware switch but not the state of rfkill so not sure where to go from there https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=107114    https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=107114
[19:02] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
[19:02] <kaladin> wafflejock:
[19:02] <kaladin> wafflejock: thank you let me check it out
[19:03] <turista> I do use ubuntu 16 but; I don't get why the volumen control can't be moved from its "low position"
[19:03] <kaladin> wafflejock: weird message
[19:03] <MichaelP> ducasse: thanks... i'll go if that works
[19:04] <kaladin> wafflejock: forced up with sudo, got error : SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable"
[19:04] <wafflejock> kaladin, you can try pasting the exact version of Ubuntu, lsb_release -a, uname -a, and lspci -vv, output .... hmm yeah it's greek to me
[19:05] <wafflejock> kaladin, someone else here might know about some particular problem or way to diagnose further but those bits will tell them what software you're running and what hardware you have
[19:05] <kaladin> lol one sec
[19:08] <turista> I feel invisible here x-P anyone know something about my trouble?¿
[19:08] <wafflejock> turista, sorry nope not really, have you tried pavucontrol?
[19:08] <virtus> как найти документацию на русском hexchat
[19:08] <wafflejock> turista, or alsamixer?
[19:09] <wafflejock> !ru | virtus
[19:09] <turista> I tried everything about these; from the help and troubleshooting but nothing
[19:09] <wafflejock> turista, so it plays audio it's just at low volume and the slider on the regular volume control doesn't work, what happens with pavucontrol or alsa? er am I misunderstanding?
[19:10] <turista> look, in alsamixer and pavucontrol I can move the scroll to get more volume; but I believe it does not play any sound
[19:10] <wafflejock> turista, also have you tried with speaker-test or aplay to avoid using pulseaudio and see if it's something to do with alsa or pulse?
[19:10] <wafflejock> oh ok
[19:10] <energizer> I can ssh using the ip address, but using the hostname says "ssh: Could not resolve hostname leela: Name or service not known"
[19:10] <turista> also with the default scroll, it's disable to move it from its original position (low)
[19:10] <energizer> What does that mean
[19:11] <pavlos> energizer, means there is no DNS in your network to resolve IP to name
[19:11] <turista> I tried to unmute it, mute it, install, reinstall, load, reload modules and so on
[19:11] <wafflejock> turista, alright have you tried using speaker-test or aplay, also in alsamixer when you hit F6 do you see what looks like your sound card/chip?
[19:11] <energizer> pavlos: What can I do to fix it?
[19:11] <compdoc> turista, you might have to select a different sound device or input
[19:12] <pavlos> energizer, if your network does not have DNS, you can install/configure DNS
[19:12] <turista> just to save time: Acus W9009S
[19:12] <turista> I also got into the bios to check that its anything able there
[19:12] <virtus> Где набрать?
[19:13] <energizer> pavlos: Is there a service I can use for sshing to computers that have domain names on the Internet?
[19:13] <wafflejock> energizer, you can just ssh into them :)
[19:13] <wafflejock> energizer, the domain name will resolve to IP you can use the domain name to ssh into them though
[19:14] <wafflejock> energizer, oh just read back
[19:14] <kaladin> wafflejock: So I ran the things but I can't paste wihtout typing since its on a separate machine without internet access lol
[19:14] <wafflejock> energizer, yeah just means DNS lookup didn't work, what do you get from nslookup somedomain.com
[19:14] <energizer> wafflejock: `ssh hostname.domain.tld` works from any other computer, just not this one pavlos
[19:14] <wafflejock> kaladin, ah no wired connection to fall back on?
[19:15] <blizzow> I'm trying not use pip to install a python prerequisite, is there a package that provides imapclient for python?  I tried to install python-imaplib2 and still get this when running a python script... "ImportError: No module named imapclient"
[19:15] <pavlos> energizer, what's your network, IP of leela
[19:15] <wafflejock> kaladin, could always sneakernet it with a USB flash drive too not sure I can help further anyhow but good to know the configuration to be able to search further for known issues
[19:15] <akik> energizer: you need to fix the name resolution in your client computer
[19:15] <kaladin> wafflejock: For lsb_release -a it is Ubuntu, Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, 16.04, xenial
[19:15] <kaladin> for uname -a
[19:15] <pavlos> energizer, are you in a 192.168.*.*
[19:15] <pavlos> energizer, or 10.0.*.*
[19:16] <kaladin> Linux ubuntu 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNY/Linux
[19:16] <kaladin> wafflejock: Then lspci -vv is way too much
[19:17] <kaladin> But for the network controller it is Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174
[19:17] <energizer> `nslookup hostname.domain.tld` says server <IP_ADDRESS> address <IP_ADDRESS>#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: hostname.domain.tld Address: 128.... pavlos akik wafflejock
[19:17] <wafflejock> kaladin, yeah just looking for the wireless section of that really it has the device id and kernel module that's being used to talk to that hardware
[19:18] <kaladin> wafflejock: kernel is ath10k_pci
[19:18] <akik> energizer: hostname.domain.tld was an example. replace it with your server hostname
[19:18] <energizer> akik: yes i did, just anonymizing for the chat
[19:18] <kaladin> wafflejock:  Communication Controller is different using mei_me its Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP CSME HECI
[19:19] <akik> energizer: are you using network-manager in your client computer?
[19:19] <energizer> akik: yes
[19:19] <kaladin> wafflejock: I know I am not as experienced with computers as I thought I was but it seems like the network should be working
[19:20] <energizer> pavlos: wafflejock: what can I do to fix this?
[19:20] <akik> energizer: you can find out the dns server with nmcli. on 14.04 "nmcli dev list | grep -i dns", on 16.04 "nmcli con show" and then "nmcli con show connection-name | grep -i dns". your defined dns server does not know about that server dns name
[19:21] <wafflejock> kaladin, yeah wireless networking is one of those notoriously buggy/problematic areas since the radios typically have closed source firmware and from what I gather drivers have to be reverse engineered around a black box so to speak so wireless issues like GPU issues aren't too uncommon, also having multiple modules loaded that can conflict can cause problems
[19:22] <pavlos> energizer, please describe your network
[19:22] <wafflejock> kaladin, personally bought my last laptop from System76 many years ago their one of a few distributors that test their systems with Linux so as to avoid any pitfalls like that, the kernel and modules support a huge amount of chipsets but here or there things will still fail
[19:22] <energizer> pavlos: university wifi
[19:22] <energizer> eduroam
[19:22] <kaladin> wafflejock: I wish I did some more research since I just assumed it would work on anything since
[19:23] <pavlos> energizer, ok, you're logged on to the UNI wifi and would like to access leela by name
[19:23] <wafflejock> kaladin, yeah it's like 90/100 I'd say at this point, but sometimes you get one of the bad components that doesn't play nice
[19:23] <pavlos> energizer, leela is some other box on the UNI
[19:23] <energizer> pavlos: i would like to ssh to it by its leela.sub.domain.edu
[19:23] <kaladin> wafflejock: thank you very much
[19:24] <energizer> akik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23740680/
[19:24] <tdannecy1> energizer: In my experience, eduroam is configured to block a lot of protocols. SSH, IRC, and some various others (DNLA, etc.) are inaccessible through the eduroam network.
[19:24] <wafflejock> kaladin, if you can get the computer on a wired connection can get output of dmesg there too or you can just browse through that and see if it gives any errors can usually, dmesg | grep EE, or dmesg | grep -i error
[19:25] <energizer> tdannecy1: it works with the ip address, just not the domain name
[19:25] <pavlos> energizer, do you know if leela runs sshd ? to test try, nc -zv leelafullname 22
[19:25] <wafflejock> kaladin, no prob, sorry I don't have more direct answers on the actual problem but will do some googling and let you know if I find anything
[19:25] <energizer> pavlos: ip works
[19:25] <pavlos> energizer, ok, for some reason leela is not in the DNS of the UNI
[19:26] <kaladin> wafflejock: it is okay thanks, I might try to burn the driver iso to another usb and install it as well
[19:26] <kaladin> maybe I messed up the driver?
[19:26] <energizer> pavlos: see also my pastebin to akik
[19:29] <pavlos> energizer, can you paste your /etc/resolv.conf
[19:29] <pavlos> energizer, using pastebin
[19:30] <pavlos> or cat /etc/resolv.conf | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:30] <energizer> pavlos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23740704/
[19:31] <energizer> I wonder what will happen if i try to ssh using my phone hotspot brb
[19:33] <energizer> pavlos: doesnt work from phone wifi either. then resolv.conf just says nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:33] <akik> energizer: <IP_ADDRESS> is the dnsmasq process (dns server)
[19:33] <pavlos> energizer, can you change your recolv.conf to read, search dns.ucla.edu (instead of host)
[19:34] <energizer> pavlos: done, doesnt help
[19:34] <wafflejock> kaladin, ah what do you get with dmesg | grep ath10k, it looks like maybe the module could be installed but missing some parts
[19:34] <wafflejock> kaladin, looking at this post http://askubuntu.com/questions/763080/no-wifi-in-qualcom-atheros-ubuntu-16-04-acer-aspire-e-15
[19:34] <akik> energizer: have you found any dns server that has this dns entry defined?
[19:34] <pavlos> energizer, host.ucla.edu does not ping but dns.ucla.edu pings
[19:35] <wafflejock> kaladin, looks like another one here where they do a manual install of the driver for the wifi http://askubuntu.com/questions/607707/ath10k-installation is that what you're trying now?
[19:35] <kaladin> wafflejock: lots and lots of red lol
[19:35] <kaladin> wafflejock: tons of errors nothing successful
[19:35] <wafflejock> errors look the same as the link I pasted there or something different?
[19:36] <energizer> pavlos; akik: sorry networking is pretty far out of my area of expertise, but i can ssh using that hostname on my phone
[19:36] <energizer> in juicessh app
[19:36] <kaladin> wafflejock: thanks so much let me put the driver onto a usb and transfer
[19:36] <wafflejock> kaladin, okay cool good luck, fingers crossed :)
[19:36] <pavlos> energizer, box leela does not announce its name hence you can access only by IP
[19:37] <energizer> pavlos: but i can ssh to it with that name from another client
[19:37] <kaladin> ty!
[19:37] <akik> pavlos: it doesn't need to announce its name, it just needs to be in a dns server which can be queried
[19:38] <energizer> pavlos: akik: perhaps this is too strange a request, but what happens if you try to ssh to it
[19:38] <akik> energizer: you can add hosts into your local /etc/hosts which dnsmasq in turn queries. this is just a quick fix and not a permanent fix to your dns problem
[19:40] <pavlos> energizer, does the other client you can ssh to leela by name, have a different resolv.conf?
[19:41] <pavlos> energizer, nslookup class=any leela dns.ucla.edu
[19:41] <pavlos> energizer, nslookup: couldn't get address for 'leela': not found
[19:42] <energizer> pavlos the host is leela.sscnet.ucla.edu. it is available from any computer but this one
[19:42] <pavlos> energizer, Name:   leela.sscnet.ucla.edu
[19:43] <pavlos> Address: <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:43] <energizer> yes
[19:43] <unimouse> hi, some armor or serlin imposibiliting me work
[19:43] <unimouse> seriusly
[19:43] <wafflejock> energizer, did you already output dig leela.sscnet.ucla.edu, if not can you?
[19:43] <energizer> wafflejock: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23740778/
[19:43] <unimouse> politiques defined in kernel?
[19:44] <akik> energizer: you can try "host leela.sscnet.ucla.edu <IP_ADDRESS>" and "host leela.sscnet.ucla.edu <IP_ADDRESS>" and see which works
[19:44] <pavlos> energizer, nc -zv leela.sscnet.ucla.edu 22
[19:44] <akik> energizer: that'll query the dns servers directly
[19:44] <energizer> pavlos: that 'succeeded'
[19:45] <energizer> akik: what am ilooking for
[19:45] <pavlos> energizer, so ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>fails?
[19:45] <akik> energizer: the host command should return the ip address
[19:46] <energizer> akik: each command returns the ip i put into it
[19:46] <digital_ghost> How do I change screen resolution of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS server on Virtual box?I tried editing grub file and add "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX" but its not working
[19:46] <akik> energizer: the ip addresses in my examples are your defined dns servers in your client machine
[19:47] <energizer> pavlos: yes that fails
[19:47] <akik> energizer: you pasted your nmcli output earlier
[19:48] <pavlos> energizer, I tried ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and I get a prompt.
[19:48] <energizer> oh my god
[19:48] <energizer> im so embarrased
[19:48] <energizer> i figured it out
[19:48] <pavlos> do tell ...
[19:49] <energizer> i had in my  .ssh/config Host leela.sscnet.ucla.edu HostName leela
[19:49] <energizer> instead of the other way around
[19:49] <energizer> so any time i tried to ssh by either name it tried to 'ssh leela' which means nothing
[19:49] <EriC^^> digital_ghost: install the guest additions
[19:50] <energizer> thanks so much pavlos akik wafflejock, sorry for the silliness
[19:50] <pavlos> energizer, np
[19:50] <GeorgesLeYeti> HI
[19:51] <GeorgesLeYeti> I'm having a big problem.
[19:51] <wafflejock> energizer, ah glad you got figured out, it's the little things :)
[19:51] <digital_ghost> Eric:guest additions won't work on "Ubuntu Server" edition
[19:52] <GeorgesLeYeti> My partner try to backup our wordpress website using a plugin (don't remeber the name) But I just stop my serv.
[19:52] <energizer> wafflejock: not quite as bad as the time i spent 3 hours trying to get wifi "nmcli says everythings ok!!" when my antenna was unplugged...
[19:52] <GeorgesLeYeti> I can connect to my server through rescue pro
[19:52] <explosive> digital_ghost: why not?
[19:53] <GeorgesLeYeti> but when i try to see log even boot.log nothing is writen there since my isue.
[19:53] <soop> anyone care to help me try and diagnose a mail.log?
[19:53] <digital_ghost> explosive: I already installed guest-additions-x11
[19:53] <GeorgesLeYeti> Even after trying to restart my server
[19:53] <energizer> pavlos: wafflejock: akik: Seems like networking is fairly complex but also has a uniform-enough baseline of knowledge that I should just put in the effort to learn the basics. Is there a book or resource you recommend?
[19:53] <explosive> digital_ghost: install the guest additions iso
[19:54] <GeorgesLeYeti> It s seems my server doesn't boot anymore
[19:54] <GeorgesLeYeti> what can i do ?
[19:54] <pavlos> energizer, I'd recommend the O'Reilly books
[19:54] <soop> GeorgesLeyeti: be more descriptive .... whats on your screen
[19:54] <k1l> GeorgesLeYeti: look at the dmesg or syslog in /var/log
[19:55] <energizer> pavlos: any one in particular?
[19:57] <pavlos> energizer, let me find ...
[19:57] <zherlock_> I need to have my linux (ubuntu) client updating its primary dns server with its own record. I.e. tell dns server <IP_ADDRESS> that I now (host A record host.thedomain.local) now have IP <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:57] <digital_ghost> installed guest additions still not getting higher resolution
[19:57] <zherlock_> nsupdate if for dynamic dns record updates right, but more for dns server to server?
[19:58] <GeorgesLeYeti> the tail -50 of syslog and dmesg are : https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9a549982fc7a377703c003de222925a3
[20:00] <akik> energizer: any tcp/ip primer and then on top of that how ubuntu does it
[20:00] <jhutchins> Is there any schedule to WordPress core updates?
[20:00] <pavlos> energizer, some pdf's ... https://www.google.com/search?q=oreilly+book+networking&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=networking+books+for+beginners+pdf
[20:01] <akik> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[20:01] <energizer> pavlos: akik: great, thanks yall
[20:02] <soop> jhutchins: #wordpress
[20:04] <jhutchins> soop: Obviously.
[20:04] <jhutchins> soop: Not that I expect an answer there.
[20:05] <jhutchins> soop: Wrapping my brain around the right google search.
[20:05] <wafflejock> jhutchins, https://wordpress.org/about/roadmap/
[20:06] <k1l> jhutchins: since ubuntu is not building but only shipping wordpress, you will have to ask the wordpress team
[20:06] <wafflejock> jhutchins, I searched for "wordpress release schedule" by the way
[20:06] <jhutchins> wafflejock: Thanks, so did I, and I found that.  Looks like every 4 months.
[20:07] <jhutchins> April, August, December.
[20:07] <wafflejock> jhutchins, yeah gotta take their word for it I suppose, just look for how often headlines come out about old versions that have had some major flaw exploited and you know how often they update :) (just poking fun don't get mad)
[20:09] <pavlos> zherlock_, I think you need to modify the TTL entry
[20:09] <jhutchins> Seems like the answer is "about every 120 days, but don't hold us to it, we'll release when we have something".
[20:16] <GeorgesLeYeti> any idea for my problem ?
[20:17] <GeorgesLeYeti> Or at least where i could find the isue
[20:19] <pavlos> GeorgesLeYeti, can you run smartctl tests on sda ?
[20:21] <IhrFussel> My PC sometimes shows orphaned inodes when shutting down...is this normal or likely a HD error?
[20:24] <Goldschlager120> Hello
[20:25] <ioria> IhrFussel, not normal, run fsck
[20:26] <GeorgesLeYeti> pavlos https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9257df924855069459299e57a61f83f4
[20:26] <_adb> i'm having trouble getting autologin working using ubuntu 16.04.1 with lightdm/openbox. /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf is http://paste.ubuntu.com/23741117/  "public" user is in the nopasswdlogin group. when the computer boots up it presents the lightdm greeter with a "Log In" button under the "public" user. the button works, but i want it to log in automatically, without interaction. what am i missing?
[20:28] <ioria> _adb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoLogin
[20:30] <pavlos> GeorgesLeYeti, line 21 SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED!
[20:30] <ducasse> GeorgesLeYeti: that drive is dying fast.
[20:30] <pavlos> GeorgesLeYeti, backup and replace disk
[20:31] <pavlos> GeorgesLeYeti, line 22 Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA.
[20:32] <_adb> ioria: thanks. i tried that, and got the same result. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM says that /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf should work (that is, a separate file under lightdm.conf.d shouldn't be necessary) and that [SeatDefaults] is obsolete, preferring [Seat:*] instead.
[20:34] <ioria> _adb,  you mean that setting a /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-myconfig.conf  is not  working ?
[20:35] <ThomasStudent> \nick
[20:35] <_adb> ioria: yes. i mean that if the output of `cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-myconfig.conf` is now
[20:36] <_adb> [SeatDefaults]
[20:36] <_adb> autologin-user=public
[20:36] <_adb> and the behavior is unchanged
[20:36] <_adb> although i think i found the problem.. cronjob @reboot is trying to clean up the public user's homedirectory and i think that's interfering with logging in
[20:36] <ioria> _adb,  and you surely have a user as 'public' ?
[20:37] <_adb> ioria: yes. it's the correct username
[20:38] <batman1> anyone have time to help with an openstack autopilot/landscape error? "2017/01/04 20:23:39 http: TLS handshake error from <IP_ADDRESS>:56774: tls: client offered an unsupported, maximum protocol version of 301"
[20:38] <ioria> _adb,  well, usually it works, without issues ... maybe there's something wrong   in you setup... check /etc/passwd
[20:39] <_adb> grep public /etc/passwd => public:x:1000:1000:public,,,:/home/public:/bin/bash
[20:44] <_adb> hrm. definitely something with that cronjob was interfering with the login. i'll have to sort through that later. thanks for your help
[20:44] <ioria> _adb, np
[20:54] <energizer> How can I move the applicatiion menus to the top bar instead of the applicatino header bar?
[20:54] <k1l> using unity?
[20:55] <k1l> then look at systemsettings -> appearance, 2nd tab
[20:55] <energizer> k1l: perfect thanks
[20:58] <adrikei> q
[20:59] <reyz> guys, would you recommend Ubuntu as a HOME NAS OS?
[21:00] <calhax> I use it as a nas and a media box reyz
[21:00] <calhax> then again I have a simple samba network
[21:00] <reyz> calhax: media box?
[21:01] <sruli> i added a script to apt DPkg::post-invoke problem is it executes it multiple times, so i added a touchfile to the script and exits if exists, now the problem is that dpkg calls the script so fast that exit if file exits kill each other, 1. why is it calling it multiple times, 2. what other solution can u ise the script shouldnt run twice?
[21:01] <reyz> calhax: like Minix etc?
[21:03] <reyz> calhax: do you access your sever via the PC or you can access the server and configure it via a local ip on a browser?
[21:03] <calhax> reyz, I installed a copy of elementry, set my drives to auto mount and then set up a simple samba share with a dedicated user for logging in on other machines, works like a charm
[21:03] <reyz> hm what is elemntry?
[21:04] <calhax> reyz, have a google elementry os
[21:05] <jak2000> hi all
[21:05] <k1l> calhax: reyz we cant support elementary in here. for their issues ask their support
[21:05] <jak2000> when a debian box access on initialramfs: i run a command: fsck /dev/dm-0   in ubuntu not exist the command
[21:06] <k1l> reyz: the question is: what speaks against using ubuntu as home server os?
[21:07] <reyz> k1l: i guess accessing everything from a central dashboard from a local ip like <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:07] <reyz> like freenas
[21:07] <reyz> etc
[21:08] <calhax> reyz, k1l , In that case better to use ubuntu, however it doesnt matter, so long as you have that stable debian base :)
[21:09] <calhax> reyz, do you want to use it for file sharing primarily? do you need a dashboard?
[21:09] <jak2000> calhax any advice
[21:10] <reyz> calhax: media sharing yes (maybe i want to add emby, plex, nextcloud, etc too)
[21:10] <tomreyn> jak2000: try e2fsck (assuming it's and ext* file system)
[21:11] <reyz> calhax: the dashboard is just for ease of use
[21:11] <k1l> reyz: those have own status/settings interfaces
[21:11] <reyz> k1l: what you mean
[21:11] <reyz> ah for configuring emby etc?
[21:11] <reyz> yes
[21:11] <jak2000> e2fsck command not found
[21:12] <reyz> they do, but for example my current NAS OS is OMV which is like that
[21:12] <reyz> https://puu.sh/tbh6B.png
[21:12] <k1l> reyz: when you install nextcloud, its managed within their own webinterface.
[21:12] <tomreyn> meta / what is better discussions -> please /join #ujbuntu-offtopic
[21:12] <tomreyn> with or without the extra j
[21:13] <Festour> Hello! How to stop ubuntu intercept Alt key? I dont need this search function. I tryed some tutorials, but they doesnt works
[21:13] <calhax> reyz, once emby is installed it can be accessed from a port of the server, so you will be able to configure it :)
[21:14] <k1l> reyz: openmediavault is its own distribution.
[21:14] <tomreyn> jak2000: maybe you chose to build the 'minified' initramfs. i had assumed it'd be there. so use the live / install cd/dvd/usb stick instead.
[21:17] <tomreyn> Festour: try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/122209/how-do-i-modify-or-disable-the-huds-use-of-the-alt-key
[21:18] <reyz> k1l: i cant get this frontend dashboard for ubuntu?
[21:18] <k1l> reyz: i dont know if you can run the openmedievault gui on the ubuntu base.
[21:19] <reyz> k1l: not the same gui, just something similar with all NAS functions
[21:19] <reyz> but on ubuntu
[21:20] <Festour> tomreyn: already tryed to disable it on keyboard shortcuts, and ccsm too
[21:20] <jhutchins> !nas
[21:20] <jhutchins> ubottu: nas?
[21:20] <Festour> tomreyn: i dont even have this entry in keyboard shortcuts, and ccsm looks doesnt apply his settings
[21:21] <tomreyn> Festour: sorry, i don't know then. i don't personally use unity, and thus cannot try it here.
[21:21] <jak2000> tomreyn i am on a vps cant access a any hardware
[21:21] <jak2000> can  start in advanced mode...
[21:21] <k1l> reyz: i am not aware of a functioning dashboard like that which is standalone. most projects have that only for their own use
[21:22] <reyz> k1l: ahh i see
[21:22] <tomreyn> jak2000: i don't know what "advanced mode" is
[21:23] <k1l> reyz: but as i said: the programs you named have their own settings guis
[21:23] <tomreyn> jak2000: any non terrible VPS providers / hosts offer some type of recovery system.
[21:23] <aruns> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 16.04.
[21:23] <aruns> If I launch an application from the application menu.
[21:23] <aruns> Is there a log I can check to see which executable was called to launch the application, and the file location of the executable?
[21:27] <aruns> Nvm.
[21:28] <GroundZero1> hi
[21:28] <reyz> Samba has a GUI in ubuntu?
[21:28] <GroundZero1> nee help..ubuntu mate doesnot help
[21:28] <reyz> or its just CLI?
[21:29] <CommonCents> I'm having difficulty getting a second video adapter and second monitor working on my xubunut 16.04 installation.  Can anyone help or advise?
[21:30] <k1l> reyz: the desktops do have a integration into the filebrowsers. but the smb on the server doesnt. just put it into the config once and its done.
[21:32] <pavlos> reyz, you can right click on folders using caja and enable sharing. you may have to install caja-share
[21:32] <Ecliptica> I want to restrict certain SSH users to be able to run a single python script and not do anything else. What's the most efficient/secure way to do so?
[21:32] <Bashing-om> !ask | GroundZero1
[21:32] <Ecliptica> i.e. they log in and the script runs automatically, but they can't create files, cd to directories, etc.
[21:33] <k1l> pavlos: caja is the nautilus fork. standard ubuntu uses nautilus on the desktop for unity and gnome shell
[21:33] <pavlos> k1l, my mistake ... I thought he mentioned ubuntu-mate but it was someone else
[21:34] <tomreyn> Ecliptica: local login or ssh?
[21:35] <Ecliptica> tomreyn: Through SSH.
[21:35] <tomreyn> oh you said so, sorry.
[21:36] <tomreyn> Ecliptica: combine these opensshd configuration options: Match User + ChrootDirectory + ForceCommand
[21:36] <Ecliptica> tomreyn: Thanks, will try that. Was in the process of setting up a jail but it seems like overkill for my purposes.
[21:36] <tomreyn> + chsh /bin/true
[21:37] <tomreyn> opensshd added jail support with a globbing / wildcard mechanism, making the whole process a lot easier than it used to be.
[21:38] <Ecliptica> tomreyn: Awesome! Thanks for the info.
[21:38] <GroundZero1> question: i have ubuntu mate. i edited the order of the apps of the "application menu" at the top. Now all apps are gone, the list is empty. The Edit-Window does not show up anymore, just quits
[21:39] <tomreyn> Ecliptica: here's a good how-to (should mostely or entirely work on ubuntu, too), just substitue SCP with the command you want them to run: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SFTP_chroot
[21:39] <Ecliptica> tomreyn: Thanks so much, that will be helpful.
[21:39] <tomreyn> i meam substitue sftp, not scp
[21:40] <gebruiker> how can I configure ubuntu to auto update ? I have seen som solutions on wiki.ubuntu like cron jobs ... but It does not explain how this work for i.e laptops, where there is a more frequent of shutting down and booting up?
[21:41] <tomreyn> Ecliptica: another how-to to complement the Arch one - this one is Debian centric. https://www.howtoforge.com/restricting-users-to-sftp-plus-setting-up-chrooted-ssh-sftp-debian-squeeze
[21:41] <tomreyn> (and i'm done with the highlights for now ;) )
[21:42] <Ecliptica> Perfect, will check it out! Much appreciated.
[21:42] <tomreyn> welcome
[21:47] <Bashing-om> gebruiker: unattended-upgrades : see: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2343732 ; https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2339387 <- setting up unattended-upgrades .
[21:52] <WebGear> sorry, stupid question, i have windows installed on sda2 with sda1 marked as windows 10 (loader) and am installing Ubuntu in a totally different disk sdc1 being the swap and sdc2 being the root / , now it asks me for a bootloader drive, which one should i go with?
[21:53] <WebGear> should i install grub in just "sda" or in "sda1" which is marked as win loader or "sdc2" which is the Ubunto root partition on another disk?
[21:55] <Bashing-om> WebGear: With separate drives I am all for seperate boot means, Install ubuntu's bootcode to sdc, and run ' sudo update-grub ' in sdc to pick up and chainnload the Windows' boot code. That leaves the Windows code untouched on sda .
[21:58] <WebGear> i guess it is pretty late for that, because grub was previously installed on sda and then when i reinstalled it i picked sdc and so sda is now un-bootable, i am reinstalling Ubuntu to fix this situation so i am not sure if i install it on sba it will fix the windows boot and be able to boot Ubuntu as well?
[21:59] <WebGear> now when i boot which defaults to sda i guess i get grub rescue shell
[21:59] <WebGear> so how to get out of this mess? :)
[22:01] <WebGear> i googled the issue a lot but almost everyone is talking about a single drive dual boot, but with my two drives and grub been previously installed on sda i am not sure what to do ....
[22:06] <unimouse> l
[22:06] <unimouse> n
[22:08] <Ecliptica> tomreyn: Got the SSH config set up for a specific group, but the session closes immediately after login for anyone in the group. :/
[22:13] <raj> is there a way to transfer gnome-terminal preferences?
[22:14] <Bashing-om> WebGear: Were me, I woulkd re-install Windows' boot code to sda and then boot ubuntu on sdc and chainload Windows to ubuntu's boot .
[22:16] <Bashing-om> WebGear: All be it . now if you also have a linux install on sda, the issue gets deeper !
[22:21] <WebGear> Bashing-om makes sense, i will just reinstall both system each on their own drive and each with their own boot loader so they be pretty much isolated then i can do the chainloading!
[22:22] <Bashing-om> WebGear: Unless the file systems are messed up I see no reason to re-install the operating systems . Just the boot code for Windows .
[22:24] <turista> Hi, I wonder if Acus W9009S has a supported sound card
[22:41] <Hc12> hi
[22:42] <turista> hi
[22:42] <unimouse> hi
[22:43] <unimouse> encontre una solucion, solo que aún no la probe. Ya es tarde, mañana haber
[22:43] <Bashing-om> !es | unimouse
[22:46] <unimouse> sorry kids. IT WAS CONVERSATION THERE FOR THE FRIEND
[22:49] <Mirs> hi can someone help me with a doubt ?
[22:50] <Mirs> I've got a pendrive with ubuntu but i'd like to know if i can install without losing any info on my current hdd
[22:52] <Bashing-om> Mirs: Pastebin the output pf terminal command ' sudo parted -l ' and we can better address what you ask of us .
[22:56] <elky> unimouse: if you're having that much difficulty keeping your conversations separate perhaps consider leaving here until you need this channel again
[22:56] <elky> unimouse: you've added quite a bit more nonsense than we're happy to put up with
[23:02] <jgcampbell300> how do i open a grub2 img to see what's inside
[23:07] <unimouse> Yes, what happened?
[23:08] <jgcampbell300> nm got it
[23:16] <jgcampbell300> so if i wanted to turn one of my old backups from long time ago into a vm but my hardware is way diffrent ... where would i look for info on that
[23:23] <nedbat> i'm trying to prevent grub from asking for information during an OS installation.  I found this discussion that mentions a few possibilities, none of which work, for various reasons.  What's the Xenial way to pre-configure grub? https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant/issues/289#issuecomment-41962600
[23:26] <nacc> nedbat: do you mean preseed (as opposed to pre-configure)?
[23:27] <nedbat> nacc: i'm not sure what I mean.  When I run "sudo apt-get update -y && sudo apt-get upgrade -y", the pink grub configuration screen pops up and interrupts the process.
[23:27] <nedbat> nacc: I want to prevent that from happening.
[23:27] <nacc> nedbat: that would be after installation, then, I assume
[23:27] <nedbat> nacc: sorry, yes, after the OS installation.
[23:28] <nacc> nedbat: do you have a screenshot of the grub screen?
[23:28] <nedbat> nacc: I use Vagrant to bring up a boxcutter/ubuntu1604 box, then run that command.
[23:28] <nedbat> nacc: I can get one, it'll take a few minutes.
[23:29] <Bashing-om> nedbat: 16.04 currenrly has an update, a frub configuration change that the sytem is asking what to do ,
[23:29] <Bashing-om> frub/grub*
[23:30] <nedbat> Bashing-om: do you know how to prevent the interactive aspect?
[23:31] <nacc> nedbat: is the prompt saying you've modified, e.g., grub.cfg you either need to keep your version, take the maintainer version, etc?
[23:31] <Bashing-om> nedbat: In the case above of the current grub update, you want to make that choice yourself .
[23:32] <nedbat> nacc: http://imgur.com/a/xBC3U
[23:32] <nedbat> Bashing-om: ok, can i make it programmatically, instead of interactively?
[23:32] <nedbat> Bashing-om: i'd love a command-line command to use instead of waiting for that screen to appear.
[23:32] <nacc> nedbat: hrm, that's not a prompt i've seen in some time (and i know longer use grub-pc)
[23:35] <wedgie> nedbat: i think this works the same way in ubuntu http://www.microhowto.info/howto/perform_an_unattended_installation_of_a_debian_package.html
[23:35] <Bashing-om> nedbat: That is above my skill level. I can not imagine why ' dpkg-reconfigure grub ' would run .
[23:35] <k1l> there was some grub update the last days, iirc
[23:36] <nacc> wedgie: yeah, noninteractive would be a start, it *might* still prompt, but that should be used regardless
[23:37] <nedbat> wedgie: thanks, I'll try export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
[23:49] <nedbat> that didn't do it.
[23:49] <nedbat> trying this now:  sudo DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" upgrade
[23:51] <nedbat> which did work!  Thanks all.
[23:51] <wedgie> sweet
[23:54] <disi> does ubuntu ship with resolvconf by default?
[23:56] <k1l> disi: since ubuntu 12.04, iirc
[23:57] <disi> k1l: how does it work? i think it is causing problems when running docker because only the loopback address in /etc/resolv.conf
[23:57] <disi> appears in*
[23:57] <k1l> disi: usually the network is handled by the networkmanager
[23:58] <disi> k1l: so, the dns servers shown in (what i think is) networkmanager, are correct; however, docker doesnt seem to be able to find those and default to it's fallback (<IP_ADDRESS>, etc.)
[23:59] <k1l> i am not using docker, so i cant tell you what the network setup with that should look like or needs tweaking