[08:55] <mup> Bug #1987622 changed: Deploying any packed image fails with snap 3.2.x of maas <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1987622>
[11:03] <BedMan> ^^^ that was me.
[13:53] <mup> Bug #1962929 changed: MAAS groups Infiniband devices in with all the "Generic" devices on the PCI tab <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1962929>
[17:53] <mup> Bug #1962929 opened: MAAS groups Infiniband devices in with all the "Generic" devices on the PCI tab <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1962929>
[17:56] <mup> Bug #1962929 changed: MAAS groups Infiniband devices in with all the "Generic" devices on the PCI tab <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1962929>
[18:02] <mup> Bug #1962929 opened: MAAS groups Infiniband devices in with all the "Generic" devices on the PCI tab <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1962929>


[00:19] <bazhang_> isnt it like season forty or something
[00:19] <bazhang_> !tursty
[19:32] <Keitaro> hello all
[19:32] <Keitaro> sorry to disturb you guys
[19:32] <Keitaro> i don't know why but my bouncer get ban from #ubuntu
[19:32] <Keitaro> but i didn't do anything wrong :/
[20:09] <dax> Keitaro: its ident server fell over. once they fix that and you reconnect to freenode, you'll be good to go.


[02:36] <dade`> present rate:            35869 mW
[02:37] <dade`> with lowest lcd backlight
[02:37] <dade`> this is a record
[09:15] <gtaylor> So, anyone here have luck with the ipw2200 firmware restart problems yet?
[09:18] <crimsun> less vague?
[09:21] <gtaylor> If that doesn't ring any bells you probably don't fall under this
[09:23] <crimsun> sure, I get firmware restarts on my ipw2195abg, but not excessively
[09:24] <crimsun> hence the need for clarification, since I can think of four different problems related to firmware restarts
[09:24] <dade`> ppl with a macbook ?
[09:29] <_Dbug_> hi
[09:30] <_Dbug_> Is a laptop a sufficiently different beast that it has it's own forum ?
[09:30] <crimsun> for development, yes.
[09:31] <_Dbug_> Ok. Well, I have a question, but it's not development related (at least I don't think so), but it is laptop related, may I give a go here ? (I tried on #ubuntu but obviously nobody knows the answer)
[09:32] <crimsun> this is a development channel.
[09:33] <_Dbug_> Ok, sorry. Thanks anyway.


[00:41] <Caesar> Hey Keybuk so what is the expected behaviour when an Upstart job gets removed?
[00:41] <Caesar> i.e. unlinked
[01:57] <Keybuk> depends
[01:58] <Keybuk> is the job still running?
[05:26] <markl_> should rc-sysinit.conf start on startup?
[05:27] <markl_> mine says start on filesystem and net-device-up IFACE=lo
[05:28] <markl_> i'll bet this is why i'm not getting a runlevel, the filesystem part is "failing"
[05:28] <sadmac> markl_: fix the filesystem part
[05:31] <markl_> what if i use mount -a instead of mountall --daemon?
[05:31] <markl_> mountall seems to be failing badly
[05:35] <sadmac> markl_: you should debug mountall. Keybuk and ion are probably the only two people in the world qualified to speak on it.
[05:41] <Keybuk> change the exec line in /etc/init/mountall.conf to have --debug
[05:41] <Keybuk> what error message do you see on the splash screen?
[05:41] <Keybuk> it should let you skip the failing filesystems or drop to a shell
[05:50] <markl_> heh
[05:51] <Keybuk> sadmac: slangasek knows the code as well ;)
[05:51] <markl_> well it's a little more complicated than that; i'm making an openvz template.  which means no console at all; i really need to get upstart to write its debug info to a file
[05:51] <Keybuk> oh
[05:51] <Keybuk> upgrade your kernel
[05:51] <Keybuk> 10.04 LTS needs 2.6.32 minimum
[05:51] <Keybuk> mountall isn't the only thing that will fail with an earlier version, it's just the first thing that you hit
[05:52] <Keybuk> mountall, upstart, udev, ureadahead, libdrm, X, plymouth, etc.  all depend on features not found in older kernels
[05:54] <markl_> ah fun
[05:54] <Keybuk> (and yes, I know OpenVZ is a huge pile of messy patches and there's no newer kernel version for it - I consider this an OpenVZ problem - and not the only problem with OpenVZ either)
[05:56] <markl_> what are some of the others, just out of curiosity?
[05:56] <Keybuk> the fact the kernel has several well known security vulnerabilities?
[05:57] <Keybuk> the fact it doesn't provide a POSIX userland?
[05:59] <markl_> do you have info on the current vulnerabilities?  they typically keep up with the red hat kernels
[06:01] <markl_> not a whole lot on google about it
[06:03] <markl_> except hypervm, lots about that
[06:06] <sadmac> markl_: why not kvm or linux containers then?
[06:09] <markl_> maybe some day, openvz is just too cool and mature.
[06:09] <markl_> i like the efficiency, and lxc is just not usable yet
[06:09] <markl_> it does suck that the vz kernel patch is so massive that linus would never accept it
[06:10] <markl_> isn't kvm like xen?  where you have to boot up a whole new kernel?
[06:10] <sadmac> markl_: yes. what's the problem?
[06:11] <markl_> http://www.hpl.hp.com/techreports/2007/HPL-2007-59R1.html
[06:12] <sadmac> ok
[06:13] <markl_> http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/videos/archive/2009/08/20/Hypervisors-vs.-OS-Virtualization-Smackdown_2C00_-a-video-from-BriForum-2009.aspx
[06:13] <markl_> xen-like systems are good when you don't care about efficiency
[06:13] <markl_> but if you need a console, or to mix different operating systems, then it is necessary
[06:13] <sadmac> markl_: that's a strong statement
[06:15] <sadmac> markl_: I can tell you that 5% overhead is usually expected on the RHEL virt stack
[06:16] <markl_> plus a ton of wasted memory
[06:16] <sadmac> not for long
[06:16] <sadmac> the page de-duplication stuff should fix that
[06:18] <markl_> yeah, i use it when i need to bring up a windows machine, it is cool for that
[06:19] <sadmac> what do you need all these containers for then?
[06:20] <markl_> i keep each service on its own vm; test environments, different build enviroments for different clients
[06:20] <markl_> i can still use different distros at least
[06:21] <markl_> and it's great for bringing up a new vm quickly, since installing is just a tar command (or snapshot if you use a san)
[06:22] <sadmac> that applies to most virt technologies
[06:23] <sadmac> (well, not a tar command, but san snapshotting or copying the image file)
[06:23] <markl_> give it a try next time you are bored and looking for a toy to play with
[06:24] <markl_> one guy in the channel had like 1000 vm's going on his machine
[06:24] <markl_> hosting companies have been using it most over the past years
[06:24] <markl_> anyway, a real upstart question; should i be able to put "echo" in the script/end script section of one of the .conf files?
[06:25] <markl_> e.g. instead of mountall
[06:25] <markl_> e.g. echo "foo" > /tmp/foo
[06:27] <markl_> ok that seems to work.  plymouth starts up but that is the only service
[06:36] <sadmac> markl_: from what Keybuk just said I doubt this will ever work, or that it will make your life easier once it does.
[06:37] <sadmac> markl_: unless you want to forward port it might be time to look for an older OS or a different container system
[06:40] <markl_> this is a fun way to at least get familiar with upstart.  how does "emits" work?  it looks like many of these scripts seem to do an exec
[06:42] <sadmac> markl_: emits means a job may emit other events by way of its scripts. I think its used to prevent some odd races but in general its just nice to let upstart know.
[06:43] <Keybuk> emits doesn't do anything
[06:43] <Keybuk> it's just documentation
[06:43] <Keybuk> there so you can run perl over /etc/init and make dotty
[06:43] <sadmac> Keybuk: ah. didn't it prevent some sort of potential hang at one point?
[06:45] <Keybuk> no
[06:46] <Keybuk> markl_: I have the OpenVZ guys some hints for getting an "ubuntu lite" booted on it over 6 months ago
[06:46] <Keybuk> s/have/gave/
[06:46] <markl_> they are way too into rhel/centos unfortunately
[06:47] <Keybuk> RHEL 6 uses Upstart
[06:47] <Keybuk> and tbh, it's not Upstart that's the issue here
[06:47] <markl_> cool
[06:47] <Keybuk> it's De-HALificiation
[06:47] <Keybuk> the kernel feature that let us remove HAL was only added in recent releases
[06:47] <Keybuk> so any distro without HAL is going to hit the exact same error you hit
[06:47] <Keybuk> (iirc. mountall fails because of an assertion error opening a "udev" netlink socket?)
[06:48] <markl_> well the question i have is that rc-sysinit is waiting for "filesystem"
[06:48] <markl_> does that mean that whatever mountall.conf execs has to return a 0 code?
[06:48] <markl_> so that the "emits filesystem" happens
[06:48] <markl_> ?
[06:48] <Keybuk> no, whatever mountall.conf execs has to communicate with Upstart via D-Bus and ask for a "filesystem" event to be emitted
[06:48] <Keybuk> ignore the "emits" lines
[06:49] <Keybuk> (upstart does)
[06:49] <Keybuk> they mean as much as the "author" and "description" lines ;)
[06:49] <markl_> ah ok gotcha
[06:49] <Keybuk> usually replacing mountall.conf with something like
[06:49] <Keybuk> script
[06:49] <Keybuk>   initctl emit virtual-fielsystems
[06:49] <Keybuk>   initctl emit loacl-filesystems
[06:49] <Keybuk>   initctl emit remote-filesystems
[06:49] <Keybuk>   initctl emit all-swaps
[06:49] <Keybuk>   initctl emit all-filesystem
[06:49] <Keybuk> end script
[06:49] <Keybuk> does most of the job
[06:49] <markl_> ok looks like i need to read up on initctl, ty!!
[06:49] <Keybuk> (but with better spelling)
[06:49] <markl_> heh
[06:49] <Keybuk> but you also need to obviously mount things
[06:50] <Keybuk> mount -a will probably work inside a vz, since you don't have to wait for the hardware
[06:50] <markl_> yeah i just need /proc
[06:50] <Keybuk> though bear in mind you need everything from /lib/init/fstab as well
[06:51] <markl_> ok cool, good to know
[06:52] <Keybuk> that should at least get you up to getty ;-)
[06:52] <markl_> does anything read /lib/init/fstab or is it there for documentation?
[06:52] <markl_> heh :)
[06:53] <markl_> i think i could do what i need now if i ifup the network and start ssh by hand.  but that would be taking the easy way out :)
[06:57] <markl_> hmm, when i try to execute mount it bombs out of the mountall.conf
[06:57] <markl_> is there a restriction on what commands i can run in there?
[07:08] <markl_> ah, i see!  if you execute a command that doesn't return a 0, upstart will stop executing your script
[07:17] <markl_> hmm well /proc is already mounted before mountall is even called
[07:17] <markl_> so i'll just make a mountall_vz.conf that does what you suggested up there.
[07:17] <markl_> i am not a fan of PFM
[07:20] <markl_> how important are "expect daemon" and "task"
[07:31] <markl_> and does "initctl emit" require a dbus process?  it looks like 10.04 doesn't install any sort of dbus
[07:47] <markl_> hmm: # initctl emit virtual-filesystems
[07:47] <markl_> initctl: Event failed
[07:54] <markl_> ok on that note, bed time
[15:24] <markl_> morning
[15:42] <markl_> does initctl without --system require the lo interface to be up?
[15:42] <markl_> also, what does it mean if initctl freezes when doing something like: initctl emit filesystem
[18:30] <markl_> ok i'm starting to dig into the source to figure out "initctl: Event failed".  Does this mean that the init process sent back a response?  How can I get details on why it failed?
[18:34] <sadmac> markl_: it means that the event was supposed to make some job start, and that job failed to start'
[19:01] <markl_> ah ok so it is not just delivering the event notification, it actually gets a result back.  cool
[19:10] <markl_> ok how does the init process know what to do with an event named "filesystem" ?
[19:11] <markl_> does it just run all of the confs that are set to start on filesystem?
[19:23] <Keybuk> yes
[19:26] <markl_> Keybuk/sadmac: good morning, long time no chat!
[19:26] <markl_> what time zone are you guys in?
[19:27] <Keybuk> markl_: I'm in US/Pacific at the moment; normally UK though
[19:27] <markl_> cool, i live in utah, not too far away
[19:27] <markl_> no ocean in between, at least
[19:28] <markl_> it is interesting that your election is getting so much coverage over here
[19:38] <jMCg> A couple of months ago I talked with @developer about upstart and Linux Capabilities. Now I run into pam_cap -- since doing a quick and dirty hack with su/sudo wouldn't do it: http://dpaste.com/186954/ -- I was wondering how the plan to implement caps in upstart looks exactly, since this pam_caps seems like an easy way around...
[19:39] <Keybuk> there isn't a plan
[19:39] <Keybuk> that isn't to say there couldn't be a plan
[19:42] <sadmac> Keybuk: in frisco again?
[19:43] <Keybuk> sadmac: I'm in SF yes
[19:43] <sadmac> Keybuk: you seem to get over there an awful lot
[19:47] <Keybuk> part of the job
[19:49] <ion> keybuk: Do you know whether you’ll get more time for Upstart in the next cycle?
[19:53] <Keybuk> ion: I can't see how I could possibly get any *more* time for Upstart in the next cycle
[19:53] <Keybuk> since I've arranged to be 100% working on Upstart for it
[19:54] <ion> Heh
[19:54]  * sadmac can't get the caffene into his head any faster
[19:55] <sadmac> I don't remember the last time I was awake
[19:55] <sadmac> Keybuk: what's in SF that Canonical keeps sending you to go see?
[19:56] <Keybuk> sadmac: this visit was the Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit
[19:56] <Keybuk> that was last week
[19:56] <Keybuk> then there was a volcano
[19:56] <Keybuk> so now I'm not going home until the 29th April
[19:56] <sadmac> Keybuk: not into ash?
[19:57] <Keybuk> I avoid cloud wherever possible ;)
[19:58] <sadmac> Keybuk: I'm going be in SF in late June I think.
[19:58] <sadmac> Keybuk: perhaps you'll find a reason to be there as well. There MAY be auto racing, and I MAY be dressed as The Stig. No promises.
[19:59] <Keybuk> lol
[20:15] <jMCg> There, I added a rant on lunchpad... Or dinnerpad..mmm...
[20:16] <jMCg> https://answers.launchpad.net/upstart/+question/45946
[20:33] <Keybuk> a rant on twitter is usually equally effective
[20:33] <Keybuk> as is shouting into the wind on a rainy winter's night
[20:34] <Keybuk> (I don't think anyone reads answers.lp.net :p)
[20:38] <Keybuk> jMCg: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/upstart/+filebug
[23:37] <markl_> if i want to register an event "foo" in /etc/init, do i just add a "start on foo" line?
[23:37] <markl_> appears to work this time, ok cool
[23:51] <markl_> ok what is the point of plymouth, just to show a fancy graphical screen on bootup?


[00:25] <SudoKing> how do you report a spam comment? :)
[00:27] <StevenK> File a question
[00:27] <StevenK> Or link the bug here, and we'll hide the comment
[00:29] <SudoKing> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/526303/comments/9
[00:31] <StevenK> SudoKing: I've hidden that comment. Thanks for telling us!
[00:31] <SudoKing> :)
[08:27] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:07] <mrevell> Hey
[09:32] <aviksil> Is there any workaround for this vcsimport failure: https://code.launchpad.net/~x3lectric/xbmc/xbmc_git_dev
[10:04] <czajkowski> bacon sandwich is the food of gods first thing in the morning
[10:15] <bigjools> czajkowski: s/first thing in the morning//
[10:16] <czajkowski> bigjools: any time of the day :)
[10:16] <czajkowski> bigjools: however I'm lacking milk to make a cuppa tea :(
[10:16] <bigjools> there you go :)
[10:18] <caribou> morning
[10:19] <caribou> quick question : how long does it takes for files to be deleted from the PPA area once they've been deleted on the web I/F ?
[10:19] <caribou> I made a mistake in my PPA so I deleted the package. Now it refuses to accept a new upload claiming that the files are there already
[10:19] <caribou> even though I deleted them
[10:21] <bigjools> caribou: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/990
[10:22] <caribou> bigjools: thanks. I should have known better & RTFM :)
[10:22] <bigjools> it's a common question :)
[10:23] <caribou> bigjools: Normal, I'm a noobie at building packages & PPA
[12:13] <ajf_> would anyone have any idea what this dependency problem is caused by? It builds fine on natty/precise/oneric/maverick. It says pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy is "BROKEN" and has an unmet dependency on dh-autoreconf
[12:13] <ajf_> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/87494954/buildlog.txt.gz
[12:14] <ajf_> this is a lynx build
[12:18] <ajf_> I am using dh-autoreconf in my rules file and put it in the control file... is the problem that dh-autoreconf is only in backports and the pbuilder on launchpad won't use backports?
[12:20] <czajkowski> ajf_: morning
[12:22] <ajf_> oh, hello, you've caught me using ubuntu :oD
[12:45] <odony> gmb: hello, do you think bug 904683 could be a consequence of the build delays due to HW failure?
[12:46] <odony> gmb: not sure if this is what you mean by "build delays"... and if it is, how can we fix such a 'dead' branch?
[12:46] <gmb> odony, No, I don't think so; I think it's part of a separate bug (bug 808930, for reference) which I'm currently working on debugging.
[12:47] <gmb> odony, If you've got a stuck branch it might be worth adding a new commit (even if nothing changes; `bzr ci --unchanged` should work for you) and pushing again.
[12:48] <gmb> odony, I'll make a note on 904683 that it could be linked to 808930
[12:50] <czajkowski> ajf_: get your issue resolved?
[12:51]  * gmb notes that he wasn't official help contact today; apologies for the confusion.
[12:53] <geser> how does LP sort comments in a bug? by comment number or by creation time of the comment?
[12:56] <czajkowski> gmb: wait there is an offical day help person like canonical-is?
[13:07] <czajkowski> bigjools: you about?
[13:20] <gmb> czajkowski, Yes, though things are a bit confused this week due to vacations and sprints.
[13:21] <ajf_> Just wondering how/if I can use backports for build time dependencies in a lynx PPA build. Though, I wonder if there was some other alternative to dh-autoreconf that was supposed to be used in lynx if it's not in the main repositories.
[13:23] <gmb> geser, By creation time; the numbers are added afterwards.
[13:23] <geser> ajf_: you can let your PPA (build-)depend on other PPAs (not sure if backports work too) or you can copy the needed packages into your PPA
[13:25] <geser> gmb: ah that explains the ordering in bug #904179. what is used for comments sent my mail? the time when they got processed or when they got sent? (compare the timestamp for comment #2 with the timestamps in the activity log)
[13:26] <gmb> geser, Without digging into the mail processing code I'd guess it's the time that they're processed that's used.
[13:27] <czajkowski> gmb: ahh didn't know that was just looking for someone to help wiht ajf_ comment from 12:13
[13:28] <gmb> czajkowski, Then I'm the wrong person to ask in many, many ways :). bigjools, StevenK or wgrant would be my first stops for that one.
[13:28] <czajkowski> aye bigjools was my next ping
[13:28] <czajkowski> :)
[13:30] <geser> gmb: I found it irritating in that bug to read the comment about nothing to upload when the comment before it had a debdiff attached (until I looked at the activity log and then the comments numbers)
[13:31] <ajf_> gmb: hmm ok thanks. I may do that then. I thought dh-autoreconf had been the preferred way to do this for a while, so I'm surprised it seems to be backports for lynx, but I could be wrong there.~
[13:31] <geser> the activity log shows that they got added after that comment, yet sort before it
[13:31] <lifeless> the sort is by date
[13:31] <lifeless> we trust the send date on received email
[13:32] <lifeless> the comment numbers are allocated sequentially and represent the order received
[13:37] <gmb> One of these days I'm going to write a bzr plugin for grepping lifeless's memory.
[13:38] <bigjools> mine just needs more space
[13:38] <czajkowski> bigjools: due an upgrade eh
[13:38] <bigjools> how can he help ye czajkowski?
[13:38] <bigjools> errm "I" help
[13:38] <czajkowski> bigjools: ajf_ had a comment at 12:12
[13:39] <bigjools> I have a vague recollection of debhelper being in backports
[13:40] <bigjools> you need to go into the "edit dependencies" on the PPA page
[13:40] <bigjools> you can change where it pulls deps from Ubuntu
[13:40] <bigjools> it's normally only -updates and -security
[13:41] <bigjools> or you can copy the relevant package into the PPA if you don't want crackports
[13:42] <lifeless> gmb: this one I know due to causing the situation
[13:42] <gmb> Ah.
[13:42] <lifeless> gmb: when I fixed 'comment numbers are unstable when mails dated in the past are received'
[13:42] <lifeless> gmb: -and-
[13:43] <lifeless> gmb: when I fixed 'to render comment 1450 on bug 1, we load and lazy evaluate all 1500 comments'
[13:43] <lifeless> gmb: to avoid having to evaluate them all I stored the comment number in the db, which trivially fixed the unstable nature by storing it forever :)
[13:44] <gmb> lifeless, Right, I'm with you. Fair enough. When people say they "caused the situation" in bugs, I think back to some of the truly weird XXXs that I've removed over the years, most of which carried the name of one of two developers.
[13:44] <lifeless> gmb: then of course, I found the horror of the grouping code.
[13:44] <gmb> Heh.
[13:44] <gmb> Yes, well.
[13:44] <gmb> The least said, the better...
[13:44] <lifeless> It would be nice to shove that into the db as a directly queryable collection too
[13:44] <gmb> Agreed.
[13:44] <lifeless> which rmeinds me
[13:45] <lifeless> gmb: did you see the two bugs with jaxa comment loading?
[13:45] <gmb> Hmm. No, not that I recall.
[13:51] <ajf_> bigjools: thank you :) I'll try copying dh-autoreconf, adding a dependency on backports to the PPA seems a bit overkill for one little build time dependency.
[13:51] <lifeless> gmb: ~2 weeks back, am looking
[13:51] <ajf_> czajkowski: thanks
[13:52] <czajkowski> ajf_: np
[13:53] <gmb> lifeless, Ah, then I may well have seen them and forgotten.
[13:54] <jonnor_work> Hi. I am interested in integrating my build-bot with Launchpad. I want to trigger builds in LP from my buildbot, and get the status of the builds on completion/failure. Is there API for this?
[13:57] <jonnor_work> I found https://help.launchpad.net/API, but is it available on the launchpad.net instance?
[13:57] <lifeless> gmb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/893375
[13:57] <lifeless> jonnor_work: yes, it is
[13:58] <lifeless> gmb: bah, its a dupe. Follow the chain. Note the assignee: )
[13:58] <lifeless> gmb: also bug 818456
[13:59] <lifeless> gmb: we ave an lp-upstream-tools project ?!
[13:59] <lifeless> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lp-upstream-tools/+bug/334456
[14:02] <gmb> lifeless, Ahah. I've unassigned myself - not something I'm working on at the moment, sadly.
[14:04] <gmb> lifeless, Note the date on that lovely upstream-tools bug, too
[14:04] <gmb> You'd have to ask jcastro, but I don't think that that's used any more, somehow...
[14:10] <dobey> how does one unsubscribe a team from receiving bug mail on a source package with the new bugs UI? i only see a way to stop myself getting e-mails, rather than unsubscribing the team now :-/
[14:27] <mthaddon> yofel: howdy - are you doing a bunch of connections to LP codehosting at the moment?
[14:28] <mthaddon> (like some scripts or such)
[14:28] <yofel> likely
[14:28] <mthaddon> yofel: we're seeing a lot of connections as your username - can you check if it's more than usual?
[14:30] <mthaddon> and of course, now I say that I'm not seeing as much any more
[14:31] <mthaddon> or maybe I am...
[14:31] <yofel> still?
[14:31] <mthaddon> not *right now*
[14:32] <yofel> ok, then I know the source - I have a script that runs a few bzr updates regulary.
[14:32] <yofel> Seems I set it to like every 10 minutes once and never turned that back down
[14:32] <mthaddon> ah, gotcha
[14:32] <mthaddon> if you could scale it back a bit that'd be appreciated
[14:32] <yofel> sure, no problem
[14:32] <mthaddon> thx
[15:28] <odony> gmb: btw thanks for your answers, couldn't reply earlier :-)
[15:29] <gmb> odony: Np.
[15:45] <mpt> danhg, hi, are you still looking for status/importance testers?
[15:47] <odony> gmb: it definitely looks like a duplicate of bug  808930 indeed... so you're saying a new scan will be initiated for any new commit, and there's a chance the scan will not timeout next time?
[15:48] <gmb> odony, Yes, that's correct. Although I don't know how _great_ the chance of the scan not timing out actually is.
[15:50] <odony> gmb, the bug seems to data back to july, but we're only starting to experience it this week AFAICT. Branch history size would be a determining factor here? Or is it too contingent to other unpredictable load during scanner job execution to tell?
[15:51] <gmb> odony, We think it's history size that's the problem, but we're not 100% certain yet. It's definitely a death-by-SQL issue, though.
[15:51] <gmb> odony, AIUI, Launchpad still does something that bzr stopped doing years ago, which is storing the entire history rather than storing tip and walking the graph to get previous revisions.
[15:53] <odony> gmb: aww, that sounds like a tricky thing to fix :-/
[15:53] <gmb> Somewhat, yeah.
[15:53] <brendand> anything up with launchpad? i keep getting:
[15:53] <brendand> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[15:53] <brendand> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[15:53] <gmb> odony,  Luckily, I know some smart people... :)
[15:53] <brendand> connectivity and permissions are fine
[15:54] <gmb> brendand, This may be to do with an ongoing issue we're having with codehosting. I'll check.
[15:54] <brendand> gmb - thanks
[15:54] <odony> gmb: we'll probably start to experience it quite often if we've reached some critical size with some of our branches... I don't suppose you have any ETA yet?  (I hate when people ask me that question;-))
[15:55] <brendand> gmb - all better. for now
[15:56] <odony> brendand: don't have any issue pushing/pulling here, usually when that happens you just wait 5 secs and try again, hoping it was just a temporary thing
[15:56] <karni> Hi guys, I'm having ssh issues http://paste.ubuntu.com/771245/
[15:56] <brendand> odony - i tried several times
[15:56] <karni> brendand: oh, it's working now
[15:56] <karni> It failed to push for few minutes, 4 maybe
[15:56] <brendand> odony - it was there for about 5 mins
[15:56] <czajkowski> hmm topic seems to be a bit long and is getting cut off
[15:57] <odony> brendand, karni, yes apparently they have intermittent problms with codehosting, so you just wait a bit more and retry ...
[15:57] <odony> woo, I can read the topic
[15:57] <karni> odony: yup, worked this time. thanks
[15:57] <karni> cheers o/
[15:58]  * gmb wanted to make it /topic THE SKY IS FALLING | Launchpad is open source
[15:58] <odony> gmb: :-D
[15:58] <odony> gmb: regarding smart people, I'm subscribed to the lp-dev ML, perhaps I know some of them too ;-)
[15:59] <gmb> :)
[16:05] <czajkowski> gmb: glad to see you still have a sense of humour!
[16:06] <gmb> czajkowski, I very nearly left "Codehosting is erratic" but for the fact that a) that's unfair and b) ex-and-current-codehosting devs would come and kill me in my sleep.
[16:06] <czajkowski> gmb: well into the christmas spirit I see :)
[16:08] <gmb> That's me, always ready to hit a peasant with his walking cane at yuletide...
[16:08] <gmb> s/his/my
[16:08] <gmb> Personal pronouns are hard.
[16:09] <czajkowski> less than a week and I shall be back home in ireland for xmas! this time with no snow interrupting my travels! Looking forward to it
[16:10] <gmb> Fingers crossed the snow stays away for you.
[16:11] <czajkowski> hopefully, short trip as well, only home for 6 days, which'll keep the mothership off my back . then back to London
[16:14] <bigjools> czajkowski: it's going to snow 3" tonight, if you believe the met office
[16:16] <czajkowski> bigjools: nothing can be as bad as last year. hopefully...
[16:17] <bigjools> that was fun
[16:18] <czajkowski> I used other words, a lot more colourful and definately not CoC friendly to describe last years travels.
[16:18] <czajkowski> Sayting that my mum just emailed saying that had a slight snow fall last night, hoping it now melts
[16:23] <bigjools> czajkowski: I love working at home :)
[16:26] <czajkowski> bigjools: I'm sure it is handy, right now my view is of Millbank, London eye and Shell building.  Looks lovely at this hour of the evening
[16:27] <bigjools> I can see black
[16:32] <djbobbydrake> seems like launchpad is going berserk this morning
[16:36] <om26er_> "Codehosting connectivity is erratic" >> does that have any relation with extremely slow download for bzr branch ??
[18:36] <lifeless> gmb: (unused) heh, yeah.
[21:45] <dobey> ok, wtf is up with this ~osfs team?
[21:47] <dobey> spamming ~registry wasn't very bright was it
[21:48] <Ampelbein> dobey: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/181648
[21:48] <dobey> ah yeah, i see that now
[21:49] <sinzui> And I was just contemplating a change to addMember to only send users invitations as is done with teams
[21:50] <dobey> i was just pondering clicking delete ;)
[21:50] <sinzui> I would have too to end this specific issue
[21:50] <dobey> but i see gary's handling it
[21:51]  * sinzui does not hesitate to stomp on any team that adds him without asking
[21:54] <czajkowski> ah that team is still doing it, thought it was a hoax yesterday
[21:56] <dobey> well, not any more
[21:56] <czajkowski> dobey: indeed, thanks
[21:56] <dobey> thank gary_poster, not me :)
[21:57] <gary_poster> :-)
[22:52] <jterrace> do source builds have access to the network? i'm getting an error that it can't resolve a hostname
[22:53] <dobey> i don't think so
[22:53] <jterrace> so my source build downloads things
[22:53] <jterrace> i cant do that?
[22:53] <dobey> i don't think so
[22:54] <dobey> why would a source build download things?
[22:54] <jterrace> there are a ton of dependencies
[22:54] <jterrace> and our build is scripted to download dependencies when building
[22:56] <lifeless> if you need dependencies when building a .deb package, you need them either included in the source (e.g. source v3 multi-tarball) or listed as build-dependencies (with packages available for them)
[22:57] <dobey> why aren't they packaged?
[22:57] <lifeless> this is for auditability
[22:57] <lifeless> and reproducability
[22:57] <jterrace> yeah
[22:57] <jterrace> well we have patches we have to apply to some of the dependencies
[22:57] <dobey> package them as well in your ppa, and add them to Build-Depends
[22:58] <jterrace> ok
[22:58] <jterrace> will just require a lot of refactoring of our build system
[22:58] <dobey> jterrace: we (ubuntuone) do that as well; https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuone/+archive/nightlies has lots of things we've backported, for example. and some have patches that are also in ubuntu already


[15:33] <bkerensa> jbicha: does quantal boot now since the libxfont package was fixed?
[15:35] <jbicha> bkerensa: yes
[15:35] <bkerensa> jbicha: you totally sure :P I upgrade the other day and ended up losing data trying to revert :)
[15:35]  * bkerensa will give it one more try based on your +1
[15:37] <jbicha> bkerensa: it was fixed last night
[16:04] <jbicha> of course, quantal is subject to a bunch of breakage especially as Debian auto-imports are running and most Ubuntu devs are still on precise


[00:00] <jarkko> is that image thing automated or does someone take care it manually?
[00:00] <valorie> the alpha was packaged
[00:00] <valorie> the dailies are automated
[00:01] <valorie> see kubuntu.org for more details
[00:01] <jarkko> when does Kubuntu 12.04 LTS (Long Term Support) end?
[00:01] <pnunn> anyone using a different doc in Kubutu?
[00:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> 2017
[00:06] <valorie> different doc?
[00:06] <valorie> can you explain what you mean, pnunn
[00:07] <pnunn> valorie: I'm experimenting with cario dock which is proving reasonably good (although missing some notifications I use) but was wondering if there are any others I should look at.
[00:08] <valorie> ah, dock
[00:08] <valorie> got it
[00:08] <valorie> !cairo
[00:08] <valorie> ok.....
[00:08] <valorie> !info cairo dock
[00:08] <valorie> pfff
[00:12] <valorie> pnunn: one can use all or part of xfce, unity, gnome, kde, and lxde
[00:12] <jarkko> do you have any clue how many people work on kubuntu fixing bugs etc
[00:12] <valorie> I've seen people use even more minimal stuff and still say they were running (sorta) kubuntu
[00:12] <valorie> jarkko: 20 or 30?
[00:13] <valorie> the #kubuntu-devel chan has ~100 nicks
[00:13] <pnunn> thanks valorie: I'm looking at stuff that runs on top of kwin at the moment (which cario dock does). Just a change of pace, not sure if I'll stick with it or not.
[00:52] <naught101> On my laptop (saucy), usb flash drives aren't auto mounting. I can mount them manually with 'mount' on the command line.
[00:52] <naught101> Anyone knw what the problem might be?
[00:55] <naught101> never mind, somehow the device notifier was missing from my task bar...
[02:43] <apb1963>  I get lots of crashes of various apps... and load spikes that are significant - up to 30 and over sometimes.   Even when my load hovers around 1.0 the machine is sluggish, and causes problems with softphone conversations: jitsi, sflphone, zoiper.
[02:43] <valorie> can you talk about one application?
[02:43] <valorie> have you filed a bug when it last crashed?
[02:46] <valorie> using the cli: ubuntu-bug app-name is probably the easiest
[02:46] <valorie> and, does Dr. Konqui come up when there is a crash?
[02:47] <apb1963> No apport-kde generally comes up
[02:47] <apb1963> Or apport perhaps... I forget.
[02:47] <valorie> that's another painless way to file a bug
[02:48] <valorie> right, apport is the ubuntubug cli
[02:48] <valorie> I mean gui
[02:48] <valorie> sheesh
[02:48] <apb1963> But it generally fails because it's a third party app.. such as libreoffice.  though krunner likes to crash fairly often
[02:49] <apb1963> My primary concern right now is really this sluggishness
[02:50] <apb1963> And load spiking
[02:50] <apb1963> Which are somewhat related I presume
[02:50] <valorie> I'm sure you run top occasionally
[02:50] <apb1963> all the time... almost constantly
[02:50] <valorie> but there is another top variant....
[02:50] <apb1963> htop
[02:50] <valorie> yes
[02:51] <valorie> and does that shed any light?
[02:51] <apb1963> I also run sar, vmstat and various others
[02:51] <apb1963> Sometimes.  Chrome is a frequent offender
[02:51] <valorie> the krunner system monitor is a good one as well
[02:52] <valorie> hmmm, I run chromium
[02:52] <apb1963> "system monitor" ?
[02:52] <valorie> yes, click the little icon to the left of the input field
[02:53] <apb1963> Yeah, I've run that before... I don't recall it helping much, other than to show me that my cpu's were running high... which I already knew.
[02:53] <apb1963> input field... of what?
[02:53] <valorie> I like that you can filter by process
[02:53] <valorie> of krunner
[02:54] <apb1963> I don't know if I run krunner?  All I know is I get crash reports nearly daily
[02:54] <valorie> alt+f2 is krunner
[02:54] <apb1963> Never did that before
[02:54] <valorie> odd that it crashes for you
[02:54] <valorie> never crashes for me
[02:55] <valorie> I use krunner all the time
[02:55] <apb1963> I think it just crashed... tell you in a minute
[02:55] <valorie> as a launcher
[02:55] <apb1963> Yep... just crashed
[02:55] <valorie> it does a lot of other stuff too, but i always forget
[02:55] <valorie> strange
[02:55] <apb1963> I've been sending those bug reports for months
[02:56] <apb1963> "internal error"
[02:56] <apb1963> It does bring up the little search window though
[02:57] <valorie> ha, so much for helpful error messages
[02:57] <apb1963> yeah.. now I rememeber system monitor... basically a pretty version of top
[02:58] <valorie> apb1963: are you getting any feedback from the devels?
[02:58] <apb1963> no
[02:58] <valorie> that sucks a bit
[02:58] <valorie> I hear there is a rewrite of krunner coming along though
[02:58] <apb1963> I'm not sure they would know how to contact me
[02:59] <valorie> well, if you have problems with the plasma desktop, #plasma is the place to ask
[02:59] <apb1963> whoa... here's something I've never seen before...the error message is threaded
[02:59] <valorie> stuff like libreoffice and chrome -- you already know
[03:00] <apb1963> chrome... doesn't seem to have any useful public interface channel
[03:01] <valorie> if you file bugs on either launchpad (packaging problems) or bko (bugs.kde.org) for KDE bugs, you should get 'bug mail' to the email account you used for your account
[03:01] <valorie> such mail tends to get buried for me, since sometimes the contact is weeks or months after I filed
[03:02] <apb1963> Right... but I'm talking about these automated reports
[03:03] <apb1963> not to pile up the conversations but.... I wonder if perhaps starting up system monitor is the reason why apport suddenly decided to include tons of info.
[03:03] <valorie> that I don't know
[03:04] <valorie> the auto-reports certainly are looked at, for some value of grep
[03:04] <apb1963> now that apport has decided to cooperate, one item of note that is interesting is that it claims krunner is a third party package
[03:05] <apb1963> sure would be nice if I could copy and paste this bug report
[03:06] <valorie> you should be able to
[03:06] <apb1963> Right click?
[03:06] <valorie> control a, control c
[03:06] <apb1963> ctrl a does nothing
[03:07] <valorie> hmmm, doesn't select all the text?
[03:07] <apb1963> no
[03:07] <valorie> :(
[03:07] <valorie> and right-click doesn't offer you that option?
[03:07] <valorie> it's been forever since I saw apport
[03:07] <apb1963> nope
[03:07] <valorie> !apport
[03:08] <valorie> pfff
[03:08] <apb1963> krunner crashed with TypeError in prepare(): prepare() takes no arguments (1 given)  <<< lovely
[03:08] <apb1963> I can copy line by line
[03:08] <valorie> oh, how sucky
[03:08] <valorie> !bug
[03:08] <valorie> ok.....
[03:09] <apb1963> (process:2314): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
[03:09] <apb1963> This is not an official Ubuntu package. Please remove any third party package and try again.
[03:10] <apb1963>            /usr/bin/krunner
[03:10] <apb1963> fascinating
[03:10] <apb1963> kde-workspace-bin 4:4.11.3-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu12.04~ppa1 [origin: LP-PPA-kubuntu-ppa-backports]
[03:11] <apb1963>   File "/usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma_scriptengine_python/pyrunner.py", line 78, in prepare
[03:11] <valorie> yikes
[03:11] <apb1963> and on and on
[03:12] <apb1963> traceback, dependencies... all quite nice actually... if I could only copy it
[03:13] <valorie> well, apport shouldn't have come up for this KDE application
[03:13] <apb1963> so another bug.
[03:13] <apb1963> I'm kind of glad it did actually
[03:13] <valorie> so I guess this is one of the differences between Kubuntu and Ubuntu with KDE on top
[03:14] <apb1963> not kde necessarliy... but kubuntu-desktop
[03:15] <apb1963> and my system is sluggish all this time... keyboard periodically takes several seconds to respond to my typing.
[03:15] <valorie> yes, this does not sound normal at all
[03:16] <valorie> however, I'm going afk to watch the golden globes right now
[03:16] <apb1963> great
[04:03] <tertu> Apt seems to be hosed somehow, can somebody help?
[04:03] <tertu> "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." comes up when I try to install new packages.
[04:03] <tertu> apt upgrade seems to work
[04:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> sudo apt-get install -f
[04:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> also, did you use any PPAs recently?
[04:05] <tertu> nope.
[04:06] <tertu> i only have stock sources.
[04:08] <tertu> trying to install aptitude, for example, fails because aptitude apparently doesn't exist
[04:08] <tertu> firefox fails for that reason
[04:09] <tertu> yeah, i get "Package x is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source"
[04:09] <tertu> for quite a few things.
[04:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmm...
[04:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> maybe you should update your repos again.
[04:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> If you haven't mucked with them, theu might just be corrupt.
[04:14] <tertu> it turns out that i, for some reason, had two major software sources turned off
[04:14] <tertu> i don't recall doing this
[04:15] <tertu> i.e. the canonical packaged sources
[04:15] <tertu> it's working now,.
[04:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> cool
[04:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> odd, but cool.
[04:31] <nobby> test
[04:55] <uBUXUBu> hi
[04:57] <uBUXUBu> remote host got him
[04:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> Remote host and Peer are vicious.
[07:53] <novakitty> I use the Faenza icon theme and it seems to mess up the Kdenlive program icons.  I was going to try one of the supplimental faenza themes from kde-look.org...but there's nothing but broken links on that site.  Has anyone run into this and found an easy solution other than having to use Oxygen icons?
[09:11] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:06] <emi_> hi, I need help with usb modem e173
[10:07] <emi_> it's detected by system, but it doesn't want to connect
[10:07] <emi_> network manager shows signal strenght, etc.
[10:58] <lolmaus> I would like to stack two panels at the same edge of the screen. How do i do that without them overlapping?
[11:35] <vmusr> is it possible to force kde into a diffrent resolution not supported by my monitor?
[11:36] <lordievader> vmusr: xrandr can do that.
[11:36] <lordievader> Not sure why you'd do that though.
[11:39] <vmusr> lordievader: I'm getting a can't open display with it
[11:40] <lordievader> vmusr: Are you running it in a tty or in the konsole?
[11:42] <vmusr> lordievader: tty - I'm connected from my tablet via NoMachine to the desktop, and I want't to force it a more suitable resolution. I'm separtly connected to the box via ssh
[11:42] <vmusr> lordievader: should I try it from konsole
[11:43] <lordievader> vmusr: Do you happen to know where your display is running?
[11:43] <vmusr> lordievader: you mean?
[11:44] <lordievader> vmusr: Well you can check, open a konsole (in kde) and run "echo $DISPLAY".
[11:57] <vmusr> lordievader: resolved, as you suggested I workded from Konsole and everything works fine :)
[13:23] <lordievader> vmusr: Ah good to hear :)
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:46] <harishnavnit> hi , can anyone please help me with installing nepomuk-core in kubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[13:47] <harishnavnit> sudo apt-get install nepomuk-core returns
[13:47] <harishnavnit> E: Unable to locate package
[13:49] <Riddell> harishnavnit: sudo apt-get install nepomuk-core-dev
[13:50] <harishnavnit> this also returns the same error message
[13:50] <harishnavnit> E: Unable to locate package
[13:57] <BluesKaj> harishnavnit, look in muon , make sure you have the universe repositories enabled
[14:05] <salaxnet> hi
[14:06] <salaxnet> question kdialog popup everytime i open chrome any ideas why?
[14:06] <salaxnet> popups*
[14:07] <lordievader> salaxnet: Is it kwallet?
[14:08] <salaxnet> no chrome wants t save a imaginary file
[14:08] <salaxnet> to*
[14:08] <lordievader> salaxnet: Hmm, haven't seen that before.
[14:10] <salaxnet> http://i.imgur.com/00z99wx.png
[14:11] <lordievader> salaxnet: Is that tab "file://opt/..." in your start page tabs?
[14:11] <salaxnet> this is how chrome opens ay idea ? chrome settngs ?
[14:11] <salaxnet> settings*
[14:11] <salaxnet> yes
[14:13] <salaxnet> file:///opt/google/chrome/chrome/
[14:13] <lordievader> salaxnet: Any specific reason it should be among them?
[14:14] <salaxnet> plama icon only task maager migthy be a problem
[14:15] <salaxnet> since i pied in that specific widget
[14:15] <salaxnet> pinned*
[14:15] <salaxnet> manager*
[14:16] <lordievader> salaxnet: Remove the "file://opt/..." from the pages chrome opens when starting up.
[14:20] <salaxnet> could you walk me throungh the process ?
[14:21] <salaxnet> through*
[14:23] <salaxnet> also does anybody know way to make drag and drop work on the desktop without the panels
[14:24] <salaxnet> you know the old kde 3 behaviour before plasma
[14:24] <salaxnet> ?
[14:25] <lordievader> salaxnet: Open chrome and go to Settings.
[14:26] <salaxnet> ok
[14:26] <lordievader> Under 'On Startup' what is it set to?
[14:26] <salaxnet> Continue where I left off
[14:27] <lordievader> salaxnet: Hmm, did you open the "file://opt/.." page laste time?
[14:27] <salaxnet> nope its automatic
[14:30] <lordievader> salaxnet: Interesting. What happens when you rename your chrome profile?
[15:35] <jarkko> if i want to remove ati drivers and use open source instead, what's the correct way?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> jarkko, look for the ati drivers in muon and purge them, then install the new drivers and reboot
[15:38] <jarkko> but how do i make sure that open drivers are used instead?
[15:39] <lordievader> jarkko: Run "lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA" if it says radeon for the driver you are using the opensource one.
[15:53] <ovidiu-florin> hello world
[15:53] <ovidiu-florin> I want to mount a NTFS partition with 770 for files and 550 to dirs. How would I do that?
[15:54] <ovidiu-florin> sorry 660 for files
[15:56] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: For as far as I know NTFS doesn't support Linux access permissions.
[15:58] <ovidiu-florin> I'm aware of that
[15:58] <ovidiu-florin> I don't know how mask works very clearly
[15:59] <ovidiu-florin> so I hoped someone can help me translate chmod to mask rights
[16:00] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1446788
[16:01] <ovidiu-florin> actually I'm searching for a more permanent solution
[16:01] <ovidiu-florin> like always mount ntfs with those permissions
[16:05] <jarkko> i removed ati drivers and reinstalled few xserver files
[16:05] <jarkko> after reboot normal boot doesnt work, but going recovery mode and resume boot goes to desktop
[16:07] <BluesKaj> jarkko, update and upgrade, you may need to bring in some libs that aren't installed
[16:08] <jarkko> i think there is some problem on linux support of 7870
[16:08] <jarkko> i had problems installing manjaro and kubuntu
[16:09] <jarkko> there are no packages to download
[16:09] <jarkko> well i must be using the open source because dota went so slow
[16:09] <lordievader> jarkko: Have you checked if the opensource radeon driver supports the 7870?
[16:10] <jarkko> no, how do i even check that?
[16:11] <jarkko> ihad before 7770 and now 7870, the change between shouldnt be that big
[16:11] <jarkko> no wonder people complain about ati, if this is so slow
[16:11] <jarkko> i got decent hardware
[16:11] <lordievader> jarkko: This has some info about it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[16:12] <jarkko> how do i check mesa version?
[16:13] <jarkko> i think its 9.x.x something, it reinstalled something like that
[16:14] <jarkko> glxinfo
[16:14] <jarkko> never remember
[16:14] <lordievader> glxinfo is in mesa-utils
[16:14] <lordievader> !info mesa-utils
[16:15] <jarkko> is there any other way to upgrade to newest mesa other than self compile?
[16:16] <jarkko> well the desktop feels fast, even games doesnt
[16:16] <jarkko> 2d driver good shape
[16:18] <lordievader> jarkko: From the Ubu wiki: This driver's 3D is usually not as fast as the closed-source, proprietary "fglrx" driver from AMD/ATI Inc. for some cards
[16:18] <jarkko> well i know that but dota is unplayable at this rate
[16:18] <jarkko> there is something wrong in my install or the open source driver really sucks on 7870
[16:19] <lordievader> Probably the second (in the 3d case).
[16:20] <jarkko> but if the driver is so bad, how is it possible that people even play on linux...with ati
[16:22] <lordievader> jarkko: The fglrx driver is usually pretty good at 3d. The trouble just is getting it installed/working.
[16:22] <jarkko> the only problem with fglrx i had has been not able to install it on all kernels
[16:23] <BluesKaj> jarkko, there is an experimental mesa app you may want to try, libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental
[16:23] <jarkko> what does it do?
[16:24] <BluesKaj> jarkko, http://pastebin.kde.org/p39438c21
[16:25] <jarkko> but its irritating that you should boot into failsave on every restart
[16:26] <jarkko> if i install that libraray does it automatically know what do ?
[16:26] <lordievader> jarkko: What driver are you currently using?
[16:26] <jarkko> i mean you have to just install it?
[16:26] <jarkko> i am not sure but i think i am back to open source
[16:26] <lordievader> jarkko: Could you pastebin the output of "lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA"?
[16:27] <jarkko> http://pastebin.com/g5D8nvYE
[16:28] <lordievader> It seems the opensource driver is not loaded.
[16:28] <jarkko> but i dont have fully closed source driver either
[16:28] <lordievader> jarkko: What is the output of "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-radeon"?
[16:29] <jarkko> http://pastebin.com/LXWmJ88C
[16:31] <lordievader> jarkko: Hmm, would the recoverymode disable the radeon driver... Do you have fragments of the fglrx driver still on your machine?
[16:31] <BluesKaj> jarkko, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes
[16:33] <jarkko> doesnt output nothing
[16:34] <BluesKaj> lordievader,  the radeon driver is installed by deafult no matter which graphics card is installed
[16:35] <lordievader> BluesKaj: I know, but a user can remove it. And it wasn't loaded. So I verified that it was installed ;)
[16:38] <BluesKaj> jarkko, there should be some output from  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , make sure you incluse the quotes
[16:38] <BluesKaj> include
[16:39] <jarkko> nothing
[16:39] <jarkko> i copy pasted it
[16:39] <jarkko> with those sitates
[16:40] <rcw2> how do i add livecd as a source
[16:40] <lordievader> No driver is loaded, that is why it doesn't return anything. So the question is, why doesn't he load the radeon driver.
[16:40] <rcw2> to install a package
[16:40] <lordievader> jarkko, BluesKaj ^
[16:40] <lordievader> jarkko: What was the issue again if you boot up in the normal mode?
[16:41] <jarkko> display goes blank
[16:41] <lordievader> jarkko: Can you get to a tty in the state?
[16:41] <jarkko> doesnt work
[16:41] <jarkko> it goes blind
[16:43] <jarkko> dont remember anymore how it went, but installing 13.10 wasnt easy either
[16:43] <lordievader> jarkko: Hmm, well that is annoying. I have to get some food. But I'm sure you and BluesKaj can figure some thing out.
[16:43] <jarkko> i think i used earlier kubuntu which i upgraded from console
[16:43] <jarkko> and used closed source drivers
[16:43] <jarkko> manjaro didnt work with free drivers
[16:43] <jarkko> there is somethign wrong with support of 7870
[16:44] <jarkko> be back later
[16:46] <BluesKaj> too bad he didn't try to determine the correct drivrername , could have modprobed it
[16:46] <rcw2>  how do i add whatever disk (in this case, kubuntu install disk) is in cdrom drive as a source in muon
[16:46] <rcw2> ppa: something or other?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> ppas are usually added from theit host sites , not from the kubuntu cd
[16:48] <BluesKaj> rcw2,^
[16:48] <BluesKaj> what app are you looking for, rcw2?
[16:49] <rcw2> BluesKaj, build-essentials
[16:49] <rcw2> i want to reference the install disk
[16:51] <BluesKaj> build-essential is in the repositories, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:51] <rcw2> BluesKaj, i can't get internet on that computer right now
[16:52] <rcw2> so i want to use the install disk
[16:53] <BluesKaj> don't think it's on the live cd, but you can uncomment the cdrom source in /etc/apt/sources.list and try to install it with the live cd
[16:54] <BluesKaj> remove the #
[16:54] <genii> BluesKaj: build-essential should be on the install disk
[16:54] <BluesKaj> really genii ?
[16:55] <rcw2> BluesKaj, should i be seeing something pointing to /dev/cdrom or something in sources.list
[16:55] <BluesKaj> rcw2, yes it should be the first source at the top
[16:56] <genii> BluesKaj: I'm like 90% sure when they discontinued alternate installer it was moved to the regular one
[16:56] <rcw2> BluesKaj, ok, do i need to reload something or restart os now?
[16:58] <BluesKaj> rcw2, load the live cd , and remove the #from the deb cdrom line in the sources.list
[16:59] <BluesKaj> then sudo apt-get update , then install build-essential
[17:00] <BluesKaj> there's no "s" on essential btw
[17:05] <rcw2> BluesKaj, i don't have 13.10 disk at the moment, how can i point towards 13.04 disk
[17:05] <rcw2> in sources.list
[17:07] <BluesKaj> recommend you download the 13.10 iso and burn it , you shouldn't mix and match apps from different OS versions
[17:15] <asla> has someone tried unvanquished
[17:16] <rcw2> BluesKaj, i hear you, but i'd like to try.  how do i find out my build for this line in sources.list?  i have 'dev cdrom:[Kubuntu 13.04 _Raring Ringtale_ - release amd64] / Raring main restricted - but it is not correct
[17:20] <floown> hellobuntu ^^
[17:20] <floown> Is there any file navigator in Kate ?
[17:20] <floown> I don't found the option
[17:21] <floown> * find
[17:21] <BluesKaj> rcw2, you have to put # in front of each line that begins with "deb" to prevent your sources list from changing to 13.04 when you update, except of course the "deb cdrom" line
[17:22] <BluesKaj> floown, use dolphin
[17:23] <rcw2> BluesKaj, ok.
[17:24] <rcw2> what's the way to get the exact line contents i need now
[17:24] <rcw2> any ideas?
[17:26] <BluesKaj> you have to , sudo apt-get update , then sudo apt-get install build-essential
[17:27] <rcw2> BluesKaj, my sources.list is bad.  i need a new one
[17:27] <rcw2> for 13.04
[17:28] <BluesKaj> you are only updating from the cdrom , no other sources , they are commented out if you followed the instructions i posted above
[17:30] <BluesKaj> rcw2, if you run sudo apt-get update without an internet connection you will get errors
[17:31] <rcw2> BluesKaj, errors or warnings
[17:32] <BluesKaj> both
[17:32] <rcw2> i can do this though, right?
[17:32] <rcw2> comment out everything, point to cdrom only, even with no inet connection, and get build-essential
[17:33] <BluesKaj> comment everything except the deb cdrom
[17:34] <rcw2> BluesKaj, i did
[17:34] <rcw2> the line is wrong,
[17:34] <rcw2> somehow
[17:34] <rcw2> (absolute dist)
[17:34] <BluesKaj> are doing sudo apt-get update
[17:34] <rcw2> yes
[17:36] <BluesKaj> change the to 13.10 instead of 13.04. but that's a cheat which may not work
[17:36] <BluesKaj> line
[17:37] <rcw2> didnt work
[17:37] <BluesKaj> best to download and burn a cd on the pc you sre using right now
[17:37] <rcw2> BluesKaj, can i use flash drive?  how to point to it in sources.list?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> that's all i can help you with
[17:38] <BluesKaj>  if you have the 13.10 iso on it , yes
[17:38] <rcw2> BluesKaj, ok.
[17:39] <rcw2> can you tell me how sources.list would be edited
[17:39] <rcw2> modified*
[17:39] <BluesKaj> i have stuff to do now , good luck
[17:39] <BluesKaj> <bblk
[17:39] <rcw2> to check for the flash
[17:39] <rcw2> k thanks
[19:05] <der-willy> moin
[19:06] <der-willy> woran kann es liegen wenn das lan nicht konfiguriebar ist_
[19:08] <der-willy> IP configuration was unavailable
[19:09] <der-willy> wlan geht
[19:09] <BluesKaj> der,  ipconfig
[19:10] <BluesKaj> der-willy,^
[19:10] <der-willy> ipconifg findet die konsole nicht
[19:11] <BluesKaj> der-willy, english please
[19:11] <der-willy> ok, command not found for ipconfig
[19:12] <der-willy> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:26:2d:97:83:46             inet6 addr: fe80::226:2dff:fe97:8346/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:27 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000            RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:7263 (7.2 KB)           Interrupt:16
[19:12] <BluesKaj> sudo dhclient eth0, for ethernet , use wlan0 for wireless
[19:13] <Euclidis_> Which version is available in the 'kubuntu-backports' ppa?
[19:13] <Euclidis_> I meant KDE
[19:13] <der-willy> wireless is runing, no problems
[19:13] <der-willy> i run kubuntu live for testing
[19:14] <Euclidis_> Is kde 4.11.4 available?
[19:14] <der-willy> wired interface failed to activate
[19:14] <Euclidis_> Wich version of kde is available on ubuntu official repository?
[19:15] <der-willy> where do i see the versin, sorrz my first try for linux
[19:15] <Euclidis_> Ok.. Thank you..
[19:15] <Euclidis_> der-willy: Of what?
[19:15] <der-willy> of kde
[19:16] <Euclidis_> Open a kde app, help and 'about kde'
[19:16] <Euclidis_> der-willy: On menu..
[19:16] <der-willy> 4.11.2
[19:22] <Euclidis_> der-willy: Which O.S.?
[19:24] <lordievader> der-willy: What is the problem exactly?
[19:24] <lordievader> Also if you prefer there is a german ubuntu support.
[19:24] <lordievader> !german
[19:25] <der-willy> kubuntukubuntu 13.10
[19:26] <der-willy> wlan is running
[19:26] <der-willy> lan is connected but i have no interneaccess
[19:26] <Euclidis_> der-willy: Dude, update your KDE: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-kde-4-12-on-ubuntu-13-10-saucy-salamander-and-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[19:27] <lordievader> Euclidis_: If I understood der-willy correctly he is running a live-cd.
[19:27] <der-willy> ok, then i trz to install kubuntu, i now run the live cd onlz
[19:27] <der-willy> yez, but i can try
[19:27] <Euclidis_> lordievader: Oh..
[19:27] <Euclidis_> I dindn't..
[19:28] <lordievader> der-willy: Ok, and what was the output of BluesKaj suggestion (the "dhclient eth0" one)?
[19:28] <der-willy> I just installed windows new and can just delete it
[19:28] <der-willy> no output in the terminal window
[19:28] <Euclidis_> I'm running 13.10 and following the link's steps, I haven't the 4.12 version rather..
[19:29] <Euclidis_> lordievader: Is there a way to get the newest version?
[19:29] <lordievader> der-willy: That is good, could you pastebin the output of "ifconfig eth0" again?
[19:29] <lordievader> Euclidis_: If the backports don't carry it, I'd just wait.
[19:29] <der-willy> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:26:2d:97:83:46             inet6 addr: fe80::226:2dff:fe97:8346/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000            RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:9488 (9.4 KB)           Interrupt:16   lo        L
[19:30] <Euclidis_> der-willy: You could use http://paste.kde.org to paste.. Isn't a mess.
[19:30] <Euclidis_> lordievader: Which version are you running in kuubntu?
[19:31] <Euclidis_> *kubuntu
[19:31] <der-willy> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:26:2d:97:83:46             inet6 addr: fe80::226:2dff:fe97:8346/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000            RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:9488 (9.4 KB)           Interrupt:16   lo        L
[19:31] <lordievader> der-willy: Is the cable connected, and is there a dhcp server anywhere on that network?
[19:32] <lordievader> Euclidis_: This install runs 4.12.0
[19:32] <der-willy> yes, the same i use for wlan
[19:32] <der-willy> grenn lamp
[19:32] <der-willy> green lamp is on
[19:33] <lordievader> der-willy: But if the wlan works does it really matter? (Especially for a live-cd)
[19:34] <der-willy> i want to copy data to my nas and wan a fast connection
[19:34] <der-willy> if this work i will install kubuntu
[19:35] <lordievader> der-willy: Could you pastebin the output of "ifconfig wlan0"?
[19:35] <der-willy> windows 7 refused to connect to mz homenetwork
[19:35] <lordievader> !paste
[19:35] <lordievader> der-willy: ^
[19:36] <der-willy> Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:26:2d:97:83:46             inet6 addr: fe80::226:2dff:fe97:8346/64 Scope:Link           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0           TX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:9488 (9.4 KB)           Interrupt:16
[19:37] <lordievader> der-willy: Please read what I write, and please use paste.ubuntu.com for pasting output.
[19:38] <der-willy> how do i paste from paste.ubuntu.com
[19:38] <lordievader> der-willy: Do you have an internet connection on that live-cd?
[19:38] <der-willy> yes, i am on with the live cd
[19:38] <der-willy> http://pastebin.kde.org/pgwetguju
[19:39] <Euclidis_> der-willy: Do you want enable the internet to run the installer?
[19:39] <lordievader> der-willy: Thank you.
[19:40] <der-willy> not in the moment, i like to know if it works before i install kubuntu
[19:40] <lordievader> der-willy: sudo ifconfig eth0 down&&sudo ifconfig eth0 up <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>&&route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:41] <lordievader> der-willy: And then see if eth0 has an ip, if so disconnect from the wifi and ping google (for example).
[19:41] <der-willy> SIOCADDRT: Operation not permitted
[19:41] <der-willy> this may be the reason
[19:42] <lordievader> der-willy: Could very well be...
[19:42] <lordievader> der-willy: The kde network manager is no help either?
[19:42] <der-willy> any idea how to fix it
[19:43] <der-willy> i have the wrong keyboard ...
[19:43] <lordievader> I could probably fix it for a normal install, but not for a live-cd.
[19:43] <der-willy> may be i have to install kubunte to change some settinge
[19:44] <der-willy> ah ok, i start  to install
[19:44] <der-willy> I am off now, thanks for the moment
[19:44] <lordievader> der-willy: Good luck.
[19:45] <der-willy> thanks
[21:17] <guest-over9000> Hello All. Hello BluesKaj
[21:18] <BluesKaj> hi guest-over9000
[21:18] <guest-over9000> BluesKaj: I installed properly fgrlx drivers, but have dim laptop screen bug, I'm trying to fix that
[21:19] <guest-over9000> So I have very black screen on my laptop (can't see almost nothing) but plugged it to tv by hdmi cabel
[21:19] <guest-over9000> and right now I have screen on the telly (TV), but my laptop is soo dark :(
[21:20] <guest-over9000> I have done this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1887550&page=3&p=12063176#post12063176 but still no clue :(
[21:20] <guest-over9000> Does anyone have any ideas ? I would be very, very happy if somebody would help me :(
[21:22] <genii> guest-over9000: Offhand, is this a Compaq Armada of some type?
[21:23] <guest-over9000> genii: Asus K52JT
[21:23] <guest-over9000> genii: Asus K52JT, ATI HD 6370M on board.
[21:25] <guest-over9000> I am still looking for a solution, searching the web and still nothing. I set the maximum brightness in catalyst control center, and on the KDE settings panel, modified grub, installed programs to auto max brightness
[21:26] <guest-over9000> and still nothing.
[21:28] <genii> guest-over9000: From what I'm reading at http://askubuntu.com/questions/310812/last-couple-of-fglrx-drivers-on-ubuntu-12-04-have-backlight-support-broken seems the drivers prior to 13.8 have this backlight issue.
[21:28] <genii> !info fglrx
[21:31] <guest-over9000> genii: ehh I don't know what to do :( I will be back soon. Have to go for a short time
[21:32] <genii> guest-over9000: Does something like: xrandr --output --brightness 0.75 take?
[21:32] <genii> Bleh, left.
[21:45] <b33zu> Hey guys I'm about to install this on my new laptop that has massively good specifications.  It does have a 64 bit processor of course.  My question is before downloading it recommends me to download the 32 bit not the 64 bit. Even though this is a general recommendation should I do the 32 bit over the 64 bit or does it matter?
[21:48] <b33zu> anyone??
[21:49] <b33zu> I just went with the 64 bit.
[21:50] <soee> go for 64
[21:51] <soee> im running it on my Dell inspiron and works perfect :)
[21:54] <guest-over9000> genii: Okay I am back
[21:55] <guest-over9000> genii: I wrote an e-mail to the AMD support about it
[21:56] <guest-over9000> genii: I hope they will look in to it. Anyway I would like to thank You and BluesKaj for help. Thank You :)
[22:02] <genii> guest-over9000: You could try an xrandr command: xrandr --output --brightness #     ... where # is from 0.00 ( darkest) to 1.00 ( brightest)   ...good one to try would be something like 0.75 to see if it works
[22:07] <guest-over9000> genii: mydevilroot@shelly-i7:~$ xrandr --output --brightness 0.75 xrandr: unrecognized option '0.75'
[22:08] <Willy> hello
[22:11] <Der_Willy> hello,i cannot use lan
[22:11] <Der_Willy> wlan is working
[22:15] <guest-over9000> genii: xbacklight -set 100, still dark :(
[22:15] <Der_Willy> https://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#kubuntu
[22:45] <lboken> hi all  im installing a linux based un kubuntu and i wanted to   know how much swaps again should i put  (the sistem is only 32 since its they have released so far, but i have a 8 core, with 12 gig ram,  if  i remember i should put 8 gig for the  swap right?
[23:49] <pnunn> Am I the only one here that hates virtuoso-t?


[00:11] <iliketofrolic666> how do I change screen saver settings?
[00:26] <MTec007> SiDi, I do have an IP that doesn't seem to be the issue.
[00:49] <R1cochet> iliketofrolic666: do u have xscreensaver or gnome-screensaver
[01:28] <iliketofrolic666> w/e is default for xubuntu
[01:29] <iliketofrolic666> i think gnome-ss
[01:29] <iliketofrolic666> it recognizes the command in terminal
[01:29] <iliketofrolic666> ** (gnome-screensaver:7446): WARNING **: screensaver already running in this session
[01:32] <R1cochet> yep
[01:33] <R1cochet> applications>settings>xfce settings manager
[01:33] <R1cochet> but i recommend xscreensaver. u can actually set individual options for each screensaver
[01:34] <R1cochet> only draw back is the screenlock dialog, u cant change it
[01:34] <R1cochet> but other than that its far superior
[01:56] <J_Litewski> where is the normal install directory?
[01:57] <R1cochet>  /
[02:02] <J_Litewski> i mean, is it in the ~/ directory?
[02:02] <J_Litewski> as a dotfile?
[02:04] <R1cochet> what is it?
[02:04] <J_Litewski> it's a program i'm writing, i'm trying to future proof it
[02:04] <R1cochet> i have no idea
[02:04] <R1cochet> sry
[02:05] <J_Litewski> np
[02:42] <R1cochet> can some1 help me get listen music player to open
[02:43] <R1cochet> when i click on it from apps menu the mouse makes busy cursor then stops and nothing happens
[03:16] <gourdcaptain> I upgraded to 9,04 from 8.10 and my USB drives now take about several minutes to be recognized by the system. Any ideas?
[03:23] <R1cochet> upgrading slowed everything for me
[03:23] <R1cochet> i had to do fresh install and now it runs faster than 8.10
[03:30] <gourdcaptain> I plan on either fresh installing this or Arch Linux. BTW, can you get Madwifi or other Atheros 802.11G drivers running off the CD now?
[03:40] <R1cochet> i dunno
[04:31] <AllStar> hi guys,any idea how to change my bootsplash screen ? i mean the loading screen of Xfce
[04:33] <R1cochet> yes
[04:33] <R1cochet> do u have the new one ud like?
[04:34] <AllStar> yes
[04:34] <R1cochet> install startup manager
[04:34] <AllStar> ok
[04:35] <R1cochet> open it click on appearance tab
[04:35] <R1cochet> click manage usplash themes
[04:35] <R1cochet> add new
[04:35] <AllStar> oh
[04:35] <AllStar> is there anyway to change without using startup manager ?
[04:35] <R1cochet> u r talking about the xubuntu screen with the scrollbar right?
[04:36] <R1cochet> yea but i dont know how
[04:36] <AllStar> yea
[04:36] <AllStar> im talking about the boot screen
[04:36] <AllStar> the loading scrollbar before login
[04:36] <R1cochet> yea
[04:37] <R1cochet> there is a way i saw somewhere online but using manager was so much easier for me
[04:37] <AllStar> so i'll have to download startup manager in source code then compile and install huh
[04:37] <R1cochet> no
[04:37] <R1cochet> get it from synaptic
[04:37] <AllStar> lol ok
[04:38] <R1cochet> thats how i got it
[04:38] <AllStar> ok
[04:38] <AllStar> hey
[04:39] <R1cochet> ?
[04:39] <AllStar> i typed startup manager in Terminal
[04:39] <AllStar> but package not found o.O
[04:39] <R1cochet> sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[04:40] <AllStar> oh thanks i works now
[04:40] <AllStar> it works now *
[04:40] <R1cochet> np
[04:40] <AllStar> :)
[04:40] <R1cochet> what splash u gonna use?
[04:41] <AllStar> from deviantart.com
[04:41] <AllStar> you ?
[04:41] <R1cochet> ive been using a couple from gnome-look
[04:41] <R1cochet> but i have yet to get fingerprint splash to work :(
[04:41] <R1cochet> looks the shit
[04:42] <AllStar> fingerprint ?
[04:42] <R1cochet> i sec
[04:42] <R1cochet> 1*
[04:42] <AllStar>  one with a human face ?
[04:42] <R1cochet> nope
[04:42] <R1cochet> i get a link for u
[04:44] <R1cochet> u can also change the bootloader splash if u want
[04:44] <R1cochet> and the loging screen
[04:45] <R1cochet> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/USplash+Theme+Fingerprint?content=93826
[04:45] <R1cochet> thats the finger print splash
[04:45] <AllStar> lol
[04:46] <AllStar> my old computer freezed when i try to install startup manager
[04:46] <AllStar> -_-
[04:46] <AllStar> sometimes its like this
[04:47] <AllStar> R1chochet
[04:47] <R1cochet> ?
[04:47] <R1cochet> like what
[04:48] <AllStar> you use apache ?
[04:48] <R1cochet> nope
[04:48] <R1cochet> what is it
[04:49] <AllStar> i also not sure but i think its something that can let u to host ur own website with your computer
[04:49] <AllStar> and totally free
[04:51] <genii> !info apache2
[04:51]  * genii sips
[04:52] <AllStar> i've tried apache
[04:52] <AllStar> but i end up with an error
[04:52] <AllStar> :(
[04:52] <AllStar> any friendly human can help me out
[04:52] <AllStar> lol
[04:53] <R1cochet> AllStar: u have a link for splash screens on deviant? i cant find them
[04:54] <R1cochet> nvm
[04:54] <AllStar> oh wait
[04:54] <R1cochet> just did a site search had left out the U
[04:55] <AllStar> http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=&section=&q=apache#catpath=customization/skins/linuxutil&order=9&q=splash
[04:55] <AllStar> there u go
[05:01] <R1cochet> ty
[05:01] <R1cochet> much better
[05:01] <R1cochet> which splash are u gonna use?
[05:02] <AllStar> hmm
[05:02] <AllStar> maybe this
[05:02] <AllStar> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/USplash+Theme+Fingerprint?content=93826
[05:02] <AllStar> you ?
[05:02] <R1cochet> i dunno yet
[05:03] <R1cochet> i have some oldies from gnome-look
[05:03] <AllStar> any idea how they change their taskbar ?
[05:03] <AllStar> to make it look like mac os
[05:04] <AllStar> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=71314&file1=71314-1.jpg&file2=71314-2.jpg&file3=71314-3.png&name=lukas+desk_op-let
[05:04] <AllStar> i mean this
[05:04] <AllStar> the things at the bottom
[05:05] <R1cochet> thats a gtk theme
[05:05] <R1cochet> the taskbar at the top?
[05:05] <AllStar> is it
[05:05] <R1cochet> w/ the gnome foot and the .trash tab
[05:05] <AllStar> no
[05:05] <AllStar> at the bottom
[05:05] <R1cochet> ohh the dock
[05:05] <R1cochet> cairo dock
[05:05] <AllStar> this one
[05:05] <AllStar> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=71314&file1=71314-1.jpg&file2=71314-2.jpg&file3=71314-3.png&name=lukas+desk_op-let
[05:06] <AllStar> ya
[05:06] <AllStar> dock
[05:06] <R1cochet> there are a couple diff docks u can use
[05:06] <R1cochet> ive only used cairo
[05:06] <AllStar> where can i find them
[05:07] <R1cochet> i think u can find some themes at cairo's website
[05:08] <AllStar> ok
[05:10] <KoshB5> I'm haveing internet connect problems on a fresh jaunty install. I suspect the linux native drivers are the culprit. However, when I install ndiswrapper, I get no option for it.
[05:11] <KoshB5> I can connect to the local wifi (home) network.
[05:11] <KoshB5> I'm using the ndiswrapper package from the ndiswrapper site
[05:12] <R1cochet> did u try opening hardware drivers?
[05:12] <KoshB5> system is a Compaq 5441 w/256M ram and a PCI graphics card
[05:12] <R1cochet> app>system>hardware
[05:12] <AllStar> R1cochet:im going to install the dock using startup manager too ?
[05:13] <R1cochet> ok
[05:17] <KoshB5> I open hardware drivers and it says no propietary drivers found
[05:17] <R1cochet> did u run a check?
[05:18] <KoshB5> The wireless is a Trendnet TEW-424UB
[05:18] <AllStar> R1chochet:the boot screen from startup manager = bootloader themes or uplash themes
[05:18] <R1cochet> usplash
[05:19] <R1cochet> bootlaoder is grub menu
[05:19] <R1cochet> u can change that as well
[05:19] <AllStar> lol ok
[05:19] <AllStar> so Usplash themes using tar.gz ? or .so
[05:20] <R1cochet> .so
[05:20] <KoshB5> r1chochet: It ran a check on it's own. Nothing found
[05:20] <R1cochet> u need to extract the .so then add that in startup manager
[05:20] <AllStar> ok
[05:20] <R1cochet> KoshB5:  i dunno then sry
[05:21] <AllStar> change tar.gz to .so ?
[05:21] <R1cochet> no
[05:21] <R1cochet> open it and extract the .so
[05:22] <AllStar> sry im new to linux
[05:22] <R1cochet> all good
[05:22] <R1cochet> u can also add cursors and icons if u like
[05:23] <AllStar> but the splash screen downloaded is in source code mode
[05:23] <AllStar> only makefile , some png inside
[05:23] <R1cochet> ohh thats the fingerprint one isnt it
[05:23] <AllStar> ya
[05:24] <R1cochet> yea i was having that issue as well
[05:24] <R1cochet> gimme a min
[05:24] <AllStar> lol
[05:24] <AllStar> k
[05:25] <R1cochet> did u try to dl the .deb?
[05:26] <AllStar> not yet
[05:26] <AllStar> deb works ?
[05:26] <R1cochet> maybe not cuz i dont see a jaunty deb
[05:28] <AllStar> lol
[05:28] <AllStar> how do i install the dock ?
[05:28] <R1cochet> try from synaptic
[05:29] <R1cochet> actually u should go to the cairo room on this net
[05:29] <AllStar> k
[05:32] <AllStar> ll
[05:32] <AllStar> Cairo-Dock2 débarque dans toutes les chaumières des Linuxiens !
[05:32] <AllStar> Voici une liste non exhaustive de toutes les nouveautés
[05:32] <AllStar> what is this
[05:32] <AllStar> - -
[05:52] <Amarok___> i am getting an error when I load a CD, it claims: "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:     klauncher said" Unknown protocal
[09:58] <Slonkie> hmm say i have an mediacenter with xubuntu, would i be able to play an .avi file by ssh'ing from my laptop ?
[10:00] <SiDi> the file is on your lappy ?
[10:00] <SiDi> i think you can with vlc / totem
[10:00] <Slonkie> No it's on my mediacenter
[10:00] <Slonkie> I wanna play it on the mediacenter which is connected to my lcd tv
[10:00] <SiDi> aw
[10:00] <SiDi> Erm thats a good question :P
[10:00] <tavasti> on what display you want it to be shown?
[10:00] <SiDi> If it supports URI's and sftp then yeh :P
[10:00] <Slonkie> I wanna play it on the mediacenter / my lcd tv
[10:00] <tavasti> do you want to see it on your laptop, or on your mediacenter?
[10:01] <Slonkie> i just don't wanna have to use vnc like i am right now with windows :(
[10:02] <tavasti> are you running X on mediacenter?
[10:02] <tavasti> and what is on screen?
[10:02] <Slonkie> well, i'm not running anything yet, going to install xubuntu jaunty if it's possible
[10:03] <tavasti> is that lcd tv or computer tft display?
[10:03] <tavasti> and how it's connected to computer?
[10:03]  * SiDi dunnoes what the hell a media center is
[10:03] <Slonkie> my mediacenter (just an computer which i use for playing movies/music ;)) is connected to my LCD TV trough VGA
[10:04] <tavasti> SiDi, just computer, but used for watching tv, etc
[10:04] <Slonkie> nothing fancy, SiDi ;)
[10:04] <tavasti> Slonkie, then you most like would run X
[10:04] <SiDi> Slonkie: then what do you use to play vids on your media center ?
[10:04] <SiDi> something like totem/vlc ?
[10:05] <Slonkie> well atm i'm using vlc @ windows, and i'd prefer vlc in xubuntu too :).
[10:05] <SiDi> cause vlc supports sftp streams if i'm right ^^
[10:05] <Slonkie> what would i need sftp stream for?
[10:05] <SiDi> or either you can create a mountpoint on your media center to access your other pc
[10:05] <Slonkie> the .avi file is on the mediacenter
[10:05] <tavasti> and for X, if there is no app that is running ull-screen mode, you can start any X app with remote ssh
[10:05] <SiDi> Slonkie	hmm say i have an mediacenter with xubuntu, would i be able to play an .avi file by ssh'ing from my laptop ?
[10:05] <SiDi> ok
[10:05] <SiDi> the file is on the media center
[10:05] <SiDi> T_T
[10:06] <Slonkie> i wanna ssh to the mediacenter (instead of vnc)
[10:06] <SiDi> i thought you wanted to pick the file via sftp from your lappy to your media center T_T
[10:06] <tavasti> DISPLAY=:0.0 mplayer myfile.avi
[10:06]  * SiDi goes bed.
[10:06] <SiDi> k i see
[10:06] <SiDi> well as tavasti said :D
[10:06] <Slonkie> thanks, tavasti ! :)
[10:06] <SiDi> or :1 if you use a second X serv :P
[10:07] <Slonkie> :)
[10:46] <adam_> how do i get my panels back in xubuntu,i have lost my task bars and start menu.
[10:51] <Slonkie> alt+f2 - xfce4-panel
[11:42] <Slonkie> i updated from 8.10 to 9.04 some time ago, just now i see that my icons aren't the same as in a newly installed jaunty.. Why is this?
[11:48] <Slonkie> nvm
[12:34] <MarcPV> hi
[12:36] <Slonkie> Hello marcPV :)
[12:37] <marcPV> i upgrade to 9.04 and i miss the volume fader in the upper bar
[12:39] <marcPV> any idea?
[12:43] <Slonkie> did you use it to turn up/down volume, or just to see volume level?
[12:46] <marcPV> to up/down
[12:46] <marcPV> the usual fader bar
[12:48] <Slonkie> okay, i don't know how to get the old one back
[12:49] <marcPV> maybe its a bug
[12:49] <Slonkie> you chould add the "mixer" which makes you able to up/down too, just place the mouse over the icon and scroll
[12:49] <Slonkie> nah i don't think it's a bug
[12:50] <marcPV> im a rookie, so i dont really know what is a bug... ;)
[12:50] <marcPV> i already place the mixer but i dont want the window to pop up anytime
[12:50] <Slonkie> well just place the mouse at the mixer and scroll up down using the scroll
[12:51] <Slonkie> don't click the mixer
[12:51] <Slonkie> You chould also bind buttons for up/down :).
[12:53] <marcPV> how can i scroll down/up?
[12:53] <Slonkie> do you have a scroll on your mouse?
[12:53] <marcPV> its laptop old ibm
[12:54] <Slonkie> all right
[12:54] <Slonkie> well you chould do buttons for it then :/
[12:54] <marcPV> ŵhat?
[12:55] <Slonkie> like.. F11 for down volume and F12 for up or whatever buttons you like
[12:56] <marcPV> 1min pls
[12:58] <aitap> Hello!
[12:58] <Slonkie> !hi | aitap
[12:59] <aitap> I'm trying to install Xubuntu via Wubi on my second PC
[12:59] <aitap> its RAM is 256 MB
[13:00] <aitap> when i try to run the installation, it says that i have only 255 MB
[13:00] <aitap> and then fails
[13:00] <aitap> i'll show you the error, wait a moment
[13:02] <aitap> writelines() agrument must be sequence of strings
[13:02] <aitap> so, what i can do to install xubuntu?
[13:19] <marcPV> i'm little busy, but thanks a lot Slomkie
[13:19] <marcPV> Slonkie
[13:39] <Cristi_> anyone here
[13:39] <Cristi_> i need help
[13:39] <Cristi_> what is gnome?
[13:40] <SiDi> its some kind of creature
[13:40] <SiDi> of the mithology
[13:40] <Cristi_> o ya?
[13:40] <SiDi> as big as a dwarf
[13:40] <SiDi> yeh
[13:41] <SiDi> but they live in the forests !
[13:41] <Cristi_> i think is a desktop enviroment
[13:41] <SiDi> (gnome is a desktop environment, just aswell as xfce)
[13:41] <Cristi_> i think you are teling lies
[13:41] <Cristi_> some kind o
[13:41] <Cristi_> f
[13:41] <Cristi_> creature?
[13:41] <Cristi_> im not stuppid
[13:42] <Cristi_> so you all use xgace?
[14:25] <blue_sky> xubuntu doesn't configure X correctly for my screen/video card. I've got three 'stripes' of screen - the left side, and then two copies of the right side, the whole centre of the screen is missing, so I can't see what to click on in the menus to fix it. Any suggestions?
[14:43] <Pres-Gas> blue_sky, do you know what your graphics card is?
[14:44] <blue_sky> Pres-Gas: It's been a long time since I had to config it. It's an ATI of some kind, 16MB ram, the screen is 1600x1200
[14:46] <Pres-Gas> Can you get to one of the virtual ttys (ctrl+alt+F2 for example) and log in?
[14:47] <blue_sky> yes
[14:49] <Pres-Gas> blue_sky, run "lshw -class display" and tell me the vendor and product.
[14:50] <blue_sky> Pres-Gas: I was just switching to a VT and I've a
[14:50] <blue_sky> lost all display, gimme a minute!
[14:52] <Pres-Gas> np, blue_sky
[14:52] <blue_sky> Pres-Gas: had to do a hard reset, just booting...
[14:55] <blue_sky> Pres-Gas: OK. It says: Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x
[14:56] <blue_sky> Pres-Gas: Forgot to say, definitely and ATI
[15:02] <Pres-Gas> Well, I do see this item based on your card, blue_sky:
[15:03] <Pres-Gas> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/old-laptop-new-ubuntu-no-decent-screen-resolution-658417/
[15:03] <blue_sky> OK, looking it up
[15:04] <Pres-Gas> blue_sky, check this one out too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-r128/+bug/284309
[15:04] <blue_sky> OK
[15:05] <blue_sky> I know it all works, it's been running Debian for many years, just don't remember how!
[15:05] <Pres-Gas> Yeah, Ubu has not been writing a Xorg.conf for a bit...you may have to hand hold it by actually making that file, blue_sky
[15:06] <blue_sky> Pres-Gas: Yeah, OK, I may re-boot with an old Knoppix disk here that I know works fine, and extract the info I need under that. Thanks for your help
[15:07] <Pres-Gas> NP...sorry it was not an easy fix
[15:14] <DetroitLibertyPe> god i'm attractive
[15:15] <Pres-Gas> !offtopic
[15:20] <blue_sky> Pres-Gas: Just a quick FYI, that first link you gave me has led to a solution to the problem. Nice clear 1600x1200 24bit display, instead of a chopped about 800x600... Nice! Thanks again.
[15:29] <Pres-Gas> blue_sky, w00t!
[15:29] <Pres-Gas> I wondered about that
[15:29] <Pres-Gas> Note the 2nd still says this is a bug
[15:29] <Pres-Gas> ...but as long as you can hand-hold it, all is well
[16:06] <ruadh> Hi. I have installed Photoshop Elements 6 using 'wine'. The installation went fine, with no problems. However, when I started Elements and attempted to register the product I got an error message saying "We were unable to connect to Adobe to register your product". I have no problems with my internet connection and JaveScript enabled in Firefox. Has anyone experienced any such problems?
[16:09] <Pres-Gas> ruadh, is Photoshop Elements actually attempting to open up a browser?
[16:09] <ruadh> Pres-Gas, No. But I guess it needs too
[16:10] <ruadh> too/to
[16:10] <Pres-Gas> ...and it is likely wanting to open up a windows browser, ruadh...which you do not have because you are running linux.
[16:11] <ruadh> Pres-Gas, ok, thanks
[16:11] <Pres-Gas> ruadh, I would guess that or it is wanting to talk via its own client, which may not be fully implemented since you are in wine
[16:11] <Pres-Gas> See if you can register it more manually from adobe.com
[16:12] <ruadh> Pres-Gas, Will do. Thanks for your advice
[16:12] <Pres-Gas> Hope you get it going
[16:12] <ruadh> :)
[16:12] <Pres-Gas> ruadh, have you tried the gimp?
[16:13] <Pres-Gas> It has more features than Elements, I believe
[16:13] <ruadh> Pres-Gas, I am not keen on gimp, never have been.
[16:14] <Pres-Gas> May I ask why, ruadh?
[17:02] <petur> Hi
[17:02] <petur> Gnome\XFCE is the only diffrence between ubuntu and xubuntu ?
[17:06] <Pres-Gas> petur, there are different other utilities installed, ie Thunderbird instead of Evolution...but they both come from the same software repositories...
[17:07] <Pres-Gas> so an ubuntu install can be set up like xubuntu and vice versa
[17:32] <cjr> hi. i have a question that i had trouble googling.. i'm running xubuntu on a laptop, and i was wondering if there's a way to preserve the aspect ratio when changing the display resolution?
[18:02] <Slonkie> Anyone here able to browse files with bluetooth to their mobilephones with xubuntu?
[18:02] <knome> Slonkie, was with intrepid at least, haven't tried in jaunty.
[18:03] <Slonkie> I'm haven't been able to do in either of the versions
[18:03] <Slonkie> I'm only able to send files :/
[18:03] <knome> right.
[18:07] <SiDi> you'll need gnome-obex-ftp
[18:07] <SiDi> and bluez-gnome
[18:07] <SiDi> afair
[18:08] <SiDi> and it was working just fine here last time i checked
[18:08] <Slonkie> For my problem? :)
[18:10] <Slonkie> if it is.. There is no gnome-obex-ftp package :(
[18:12] <SiDi> gnome-vfs-obexftp
[18:14] <Slonkie> Thanks
[18:15] <F3r0X> hi
[18:15] <F3r0X> just a question
[18:15] <F3r0X> i've just switced from ubuntu to xubuntu
[18:15] <SiDi> Hello
[18:15] <SiDi> Feel free to ask
[18:16] <Slonkie> That diden't help unfortunaitly, SiDi. :(
[18:16] <F3r0X> i cannot find on systray the volulume control  icon  as in ubuntu
[18:16] <F3r0X> i found mixer applet but it's not immediate as in ubuntu
[18:16] <F3r0X> i know it's a stupid thing
[18:17] <SiDi> !bluetooth
[18:17] <SiDi> !obex
[18:17] <SiDi> Slonkie, there should be howto's somewhere... it's doable for sure anyways
[18:17] <SiDi> F3r0X, you got the mixer applet atm ?
[18:17] <Slonkie> Thanks
[18:17] <SiDi> F3r0X, you can scroll it up / down to increase/decrease volume
[18:18] <F3r0X> yes
[18:18] <F3r0X> but i have to click it and then change volume
[18:18] <F3r0X> does it exists something more immediate?
[18:18] <F3r0X> hops
[18:18] <SiDi> F3r0X, scroll it with your mouse
[18:18] <SiDi> F3r0X, if you're under jaunty, you can also try to install xfce4-xfapplet-plugin and then add an xfapplet, then go to the applet's properties and turn it into a volume applet
[18:19] <F3r0X> ok
[18:19] <F3r0X> ...
[18:19] <F3r0X> sorry
[18:19] <F3r0X> it works
[18:19] <F3r0X> :)
[18:19] <SiDi> :p
[18:20] <F3r0X> good start with xubunutu :)
[18:31] <F3r0X> another question
[18:31] <F3r0X> my video card is not detected
[18:31] <F3r0X> with lspci this is the result
[18:32] <F3r0X> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X1650 Pro (rev 9e)
[18:47] <J_Litewski> is there a way to change the way xubuntu handles when the computer overheats?
[18:49] <J_Litewski> i'm tired of my lappy shutting down when it overheats. i would like it to subspend itself instead
[18:58] <tmurase> Uh, how hot is it getting?
[18:59] <J_Litewski> not sure
[18:59] <J_Litewski> it just starting happening
[18:59] <tmurase> I think at some point the CPU will just shut the whole thing down (> 100C?)
[18:59] <J_Litewski> after i took the cmos battery out
[19:00] <tmurase> The bios settings aren't the same as before, then?
[19:01] <J_Litewski> not sure
[19:02] <J_Litewski> the only thing i change in the bios is the startup settings\
[19:02] <J_Litewski> i'll check though
[19:02] <J_Litewski> brb
[19:06] <J_Litewski> nothing in BIOS
[19:07] <tmurase> can you run xfce4-sensors?
[19:07] <J_Litewski> i'll try
[19:08] <J_Litewski> installing it now
[19:09] <J_Litewski> i think it's the crappy design of the dell inspiron 1000
[19:11] <J_Litewski> ACPI/THRM is 83.0 C
[19:11] <J_Litewski> thats kinda high
[19:12] <J_Litewski> that's not right
[19:15] <tmurase> yeah, that's pretty high
[19:15] <tmurase> the fan is going full throttle too?
[19:16] <J_Litewski> it's on half power
[19:20] <tmurase> that doesn't seem right eitehr
[19:20] <tmurase> On one of my laptops I had to open the thing up to take out a big dust bunny blocking the vent.  But the fan was desperately trying to cool the system
[19:21] <J_Litewski> huh
[19:21] <tmurase> ie: the fan was at full speed
[19:21] <J_Litewski> i'm just going to be glad when i get my desktop
[20:08] <Xubuntu904Instal> Hello.  Xubuntu 9.04 fails to install.  It goes black screen and scrolls error messages having to do with a hard drive.  AthlonXP2500+, 2gb ram, nvidia 6800, IDE cdrom, SATA hard drives (x2)  Does Xubuntu not support SATA or something?
[20:12] <Xubuntu904Instal> When trying to install after booting the livecd (instead of install from boot menu), it only sees one of the SATA hard drives.
[20:15] <Xubuntu904Instal> It hangs at the menu where you enter user information (step 5 of 7)
[20:15] <Slonkie> hmm i changed my nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf but it doesn't seem to update? how do i make it update and make it keep the settings for next time i login?
[20:15] <Xubuntu904Instal> Any suggestions, anyone?
[20:16] <Xubuntu904Instal> slonkie, did you do it as root?
[20:16] <Slonkie> Yes ofcourse :)
[20:16] <Xubuntu904Instal> :)
[20:34] <Xubuntu904Instal> on this system I'm having trouble installing Gparted hangs when booted from the livecd.  guess ubuntu hates my sata controller.
[20:34] <DetroitLibertyPe> yes, Ubuntu has feelings and it HATES your sata controller
[20:35] <Xubuntu904Instal> it speaks to me in error messages when I try to install.  they say that "hda" is having problems, but I thought sata shows up as "sda" in /dev
[20:36] <Xubuntu904Instal> of course hda has problems... there isn't one.
[20:39] <Xubuntu904Instal> cfdisk : "FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive"
[20:41] <Xubuntu904Instal> cfdisk fails when pointed at sda, and hangs when pointed at sda1
[20:44] <Xubuntu904Instal> Okay, I'm guessing that xubuntu 9.04 just plain doesn't like the nforce2 chipset's sata controller.  I've read of others doing a SATA install.  Where to report the bug?
[20:48] <Xubuntu904Instal> I did a "dd if=dev/zero of=dev/sda" and it reports that only 1.1gb of zeros were written.  what the heck?
[20:48] <Xubuntu904Instal> it's a 80gb drive.
[20:49] <cjones> how can i create an iso image from a a cd
[20:49] <Slonkie> Use brasero
[20:50] <Slonkie> It has a built in function for exactly that :)
[20:52] <Xubuntu904Instal> any other apps other than gparted and cfdisk on the xubuntu disk?  neither seem to work...
[20:52] <SiDi> Xubuntu904Instal, bugs go in bugs.launchpad.net
[20:52] <Xubuntu904Instal> I mean for partitioning...  guided partitioning fails.
[20:52] <Xubuntu904Instal> thx, sidi
[20:52] <SiDi> i suppose you should set the project for the bug to the kernel
[20:53] <Xubuntu904Instal> sidi, have you gotten xubuntu to install on a SATA drive before?
[20:53] <SiDi> All my PCs use sata drives afaik
[20:53] <SiDi> and it works ok on all of them
[20:53] <SiDi> i guess its a motherboard + kernel problem
[20:53] <Xubuntu904Instal> any of your mobos have the nforce2 chipset?
[20:53] <SiDi> no :p
[20:53] <SiDi> only intel here
[20:54] <Xubuntu904Instal> ahh
[20:54] <Xubuntu904Instal> guess I'll have to dig up an IDE and try again... :(
[21:14] <alyawn> Does anyone know why Thunar opens 2 windows whenever I connect my external USB hard drive?
[21:17] <genii> Two partitions?
[21:17] <alyawn> Only one drive appears on my desktop and both windows are in the same folder
[21:18] <alyawn> When I disable the "Browse removable media when inserted" then I get no windows as expected.
[21:18] <DetroitLibertyPe> alwyan:becaue you double clicked, so it opened twice
[21:19] <alyawn> I didn't click on anything... I just plugged in the drive (USB)
[21:19] <DetroitLibertyPe> well, never mind then
[21:19] <DetroitLibertyPe> <- Runs sheepisly to the back
[21:19] <cjones> how can i take an iso image of xubuntu and add files so that when i install it the files would be on the desktop?
[21:21] <Slonkie> Anybody know an application in which i'm able to mark x amount of .mp3 files and change the id3 tag album on all of them at once?
[21:21] <alyawn> I just tried with another USB hard drive and a flash drive and I always get 2 windows. Any ideas?
[21:23] <cjones> how do i use braso to save a disk as an iso image?
[21:24] <cjones> how do i use brasero to save a disk as an iso image?
[21:26] <knome> cjones, "disc copy"
[21:32] <cjones> how can i take an iso image of xubuntu and add files so that when i install it the files would be on the desktop?
[21:34] <R1cochet> there is a program. hold i o forgot what it was called
[21:35] <R1cochet> wells theres 2 diff ones.
[21:35] <R1cochet> look at aptoncd, ima try to remember the other
[21:35] <R1cochet> aptoncd doesnt add to install disc but will create a cd of all the packs u want
[21:36] <Slonkie> cjones open brasero and press the "Disc Copy"
[21:36] <SiDi> !oem
[21:36] <SiDi> !automate
[21:36] <SiDi> !cloning
[21:37] <SiDi> cjones, see above :p search help.ubuntu.com for OEM installs too
[21:40] <R1cochet> SiDi: what was that program that would let u create ur own installer?
[21:40] <cjones> SiDi all i want to is haveall my roms for my emulators someplace i can find them after install
[21:42] <SiDi> R1cochet, dont remember
[22:15] <Slonkie> I wonder if anyone know of an "rss" application one can add in the panel which shows latest headlines from an feed?
[22:18] <laisa> Hi ppl. I have a problem with my resolution. Ecerytime I login, the Resolution change
[22:18] <laisa> I whant to use 1024x768
[22:19] <laisa> or 1152x864
[22:19] <laisa> anyone?
[22:20] <Slonkie> be patient laisa.
[22:21] <laisa> Slonkie can you help?
[22:22] <Slonkie> No if i were able to help i'd had answered. So be patient and when someone whom's able to help they will answer you.
[22:22] <laisa> How can I run xfconf as root in Xubuntu 9.04?
[22:25] <SiDi> laisa, did you install your GPU's drivers ?
[22:26] <SiDi> If yes, did you use sudo instead of gksudo for drivers/screen res GUI apps ?
[22:26] <laisa> Xubuntu doesn't find my GPU
[22:26] <SiDi> aw
[22:26] <SiDi> I can't help on this tho :)
[23:06] <zorofrozo> hey, i cannot change the login screen on my xubuntu jaunty setup to belgian azerty.
[23:06] <zorofrozo> the login screen is in us qwerty
[23:06] <zorofrozo> can someone help me???
[23:06] <SiDi> zorofrozo, edit your xorg.conf's keyboard layout and it should be good
[23:07] <zorofrozo> humm, i'll try that, is there no way to do this tru the menus??
[23:08] <SiDi> In Xubuntu i'm not sure :/
[23:08] <zorofrozo> uwkay, and location of xorg??? i tryed etc, i was wrong:p
[23:09] <knome> /etc/X11/
[23:09] <zorofrozo> right^^ thx
[23:10] <zorofrozo> opened it tru terminal with mousepad now, problem is, xorg is nearly empty, do you know the exact code?
[23:11] <knome> !xorg
[23:11] <knome> hmmh.
[23:11] <knome> !kb
[23:11] <knome> !keyboard
[23:11] <knome> see that xfce one ^
[23:11] <zorofrozo> nice :d
[23:18] <zorofrozo> that will change the layout in the login screen?? because once logged in, it's fine, then it is azerty
[23:19] <zorofrozo> i'll try and post back
[23:19] <zorofrozo> grtzz
[23:22] <zorofroozo> back
[23:22] <zorofroozo> !login
[23:23] <zorofroozo> !keyboard
[23:24] <m200> hi guys
[23:24] <knome> !hi | m200
[23:24] <m200> I need a quick 1-2-3 help with regard to Xubuntu 9.04
[23:24] <zorofroozo> hi
[23:24] <m200> I just installed through NetBoot Xubuntu 9.04
[23:25] <m200> and tried to access my another PC with shared Windows and another PC with SSHFS
[23:25] <m200> it seems that I can get authenticated and connected in Gigolo
[23:25] <m200> but, when I try open the icon, it doesn't do anything
[23:26] <m200> I don't have this problem with Ubuntu and Kubuntu.
[23:26] <m200> I really appreciate if if you guys can share some lights
[23:27] <zorofroozo> stillno azety in login screen, any ideas ??
[23:28] <zorofroozo> still no azerty, is what i meant
[23:29] <m200> hope some on this list can help out
[23:29] <m200> thanks in advance
[23:29] <SiDi> zoredache, isnt there an option in GDM for language ? :/
[23:29] <SiDi> zorofroozo, *
[23:29] <SiDi> zoredache, soz
[23:31] <zorofroozo> let me look
[23:32] <zorofroozo> i changed the layout at settings-keyboard
[23:33] <zorofroozo> !gdm
[23:33] <zorofroozo> what did you mean by gdm?
[23:34] <zorofroozo> gnome display manager, kay:p
[23:35] <SiDi> yeh
[23:35] <SiDi> its the name of that login thing
[23:35] <SiDi> the keyboard settings GUI is only for the xfce session
[23:36] <SiDi> there also is the system-wide one in xorg.conf
[23:36] <SiDi> but maybe gdm has its own one
[23:36] <SiDi> then it'd be in /etc/gdm/somewhere
[23:36] <zorofroozo> as though it seems:p
[23:46] <zorofroozo> found gdmsetup, but doesn't provide the layout option, thquest continues
[23:51] <SiDi> good luck :X
[23:51] <SiDi> try #gdm maybe there'll be someone btw :P
[23:51] <SiDi> Purée ubuntu server est mieux seedé que Fedora 10
[23:51] <SiDi> j'ai gagné 3% sur Fedora et 15% sur Ubuntu
[23:52] <SiDi> OOp
[23:52] <SiDi> Wrong channel
[23:54] <Slonkie> Anyone here know an calender which is capable of syncronising with the S60 mobile operative system?


[14:15] <xnox> 2001:67c:1360:8001::24 is still pointed at in dns for archive.ubuntu.com; and yet it doesn't serve the archive anymore?
[14:15] <xnox> or is my world-view of the internet broken by my ISP?
[14:21] <xnox> i am very confused
[14:21] <xnox> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/F5PHqRZSyy/
[14:21] <xnox> why does it redirect..... and yet connects back to the same host.... and serves it alright?
[14:22] <xnox> https://serverfault.com/questions/1003112/what-does-mark-bundle-as-not-supporting-multiuse-mean-in-my-curl-trace
[14:22] <xnox> oh sadness i try to connect via http/2 which is not allowed.
[14:26] <axino> xnox: we just experienced what appear to be issues with our transit provider
[14:28] <xnox> ok, so something is happening. cool.
[14:29] <axino> xnox: for your redirect
[14:29] <axino> xnox: it's redirecting to the same URI but with a / at the end :)
[14:30] <axino> xnox: (so a different URI)
[14:30] <xnox> i am both annoyed, and in admiration of such pedantic behaviour


[09:52] <Chikore> nzoueidi, :D
[09:52] <Chikore> It's late but Romdhankom mabrouk yall
[09:56] <nzoueidi> Thank you Chikore Romdhanek mabrouk zeda
[09:57] <nzoueidi> how are you doing?
[09:57] <Chikore> Hani hani :D nbarbech fi Kubernates tfakkartek xD
[09:58] <nzoueidi> hahaha :D
[09:58] <nzoueidi> good luck with that :D