[16:31] <Ashael> dependencies?
[16:31] <Ashael> ok, i'll try
[16:31] <Ashael> brb
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: I also suggest you install unp rar and unrar
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: you need those packages for file roller to be able to extract 7zip archives
[16:32] <prothon> deadmund, http://bitclockers.com/forums/index.php?topic=7.0
[16:33] <deadmund> prothon: neat!
[16:33] <mr_44> Anybody have dolphin file manager installed?
[16:33] <prothon> deadmund, if there's a will, there's some ghetto solution!
[16:33] <deadmund> haha
[16:33] <lmat> in man find, -fprint file  says that it prints the "full file name".
[16:34] <lmat> I ran  find src -name "*.java" -fprint /dev/stdout  and I see the file names on standard out, but they're relative to .
[16:34] <lmat> How do I get the full file names?
[16:34] <hoijui> the threads i find online about this network chipset are all old (latest is from 2010)
[16:35] <BluesKaj> mr_44, yup , I run KDE  , what's your issue
[16:35] <lmat> nm, got it.
[16:35] <hoijui> but the problem is pretty severe...
[16:35] <Ashael> ok, installed all those packages, File-roller simply crashes whenever i try to open it or extract a file in a dir...
[16:35] <hoijui> i am also pretty sure it is a driver problem, because my friend that has an sus netbook aswell, and the same problems under linux, does nto have any under windows
[16:36] <hoijui> and.. i am sure that a LOT of people use this chipset
[16:36] <Ashael> i get a blank window with the title, which then crashes after a few seconds.
[16:36] <hoijui> as it seems to be kind of standard for EEEPCs
[16:36] <hoijui> so.. woudl be kind of important to fix this (if it is not yet fixed)
[16:36] <mr_44> BluesKaj Hello! :) Do you know if the Dolphin file manager  have ability to show items on desktop? Like in classic gnome nautilus could?
[16:37] <BluesKaj> mr44 items ..like ?
[16:38] <mr_44> BluesKaj Files folders
[16:38] <Ashael> ActionParsnip: installed all those packages, File-roller simply crashes whenever i try to open it or extract a file in a dir... i get a blank window with the title, which then crashes after a few seconds.
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> hoijui: Try:    echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > /dev/null
[16:39] <Ashael> and i can't even find 7zip anywhere although it's installed...
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: you won't. Just use file roller and it will extract it
[16:39] <rumpe1> Ashael, 7zip itself has no gui afaik
[16:40] <Ashael> well, file roller crashes.
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: there isn't a specific GUI app for 7zip
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: try using unp :)
[16:40] <Ashael> k np
[16:40] <Ashael> what do you mean?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: use the command: unp    to extract the file
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: unp filename
[16:41] <hoijui> ActionParsnip: that turns of hardware encryption? if so.. that sounds like a good shot.
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> hoijui: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/ar928x-detected-by-ubuntu-but-no-access-points-are-visible-694984/
[16:41] <Ashael> k un momento
[16:41] <hoijui> i am able to get online at home relatively well, but at uni it hardly works
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> hoijui: its easy to undo too, just delete the conf file. Reboot to test
[16:41] <BluesKaj> mr_44, yes , justb drag them dolphin unto the desktop
[16:41] <hoijui> ok, thanks! :-)
[16:41] <BluesKaj> from dolphn
[16:41] <hoijui> i am at home now.. but i will test it tomorrow!
[16:42] <Ashael> ActionParsnip: i get this: "WARNING: There were errors while processing files!" and nothing else.
[16:45] <bdu> I am using Kubuntu on Lenovo T60. However my Wireless connection can not be activated. Any idea?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: is the archive healthy? Is there an MD5sum or SHA5sum
[16:46] <rumpe1> bdu, have you tried "sudo rfkill unblock all" (maybe even after a cold start)?
[16:46] <Ububuntu> Ubuntu 12.10 freeze problem...How do I fix?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> bdu: what wifi chip does it use?
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> Ububuntu: have you tested your RAM?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> bdu: are you fully updated?
[16:47] <Ashael> ActionParsnip: i tried it on several different archives - zip, 7z, tar.gz. same with all.
[16:47] <bdu> ActionParsnip, fully updated
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Ashael: what is the output  of:  lsb_release -sc
[16:47] <Ububuntu> ActionParsnip, how do i test?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> bdu: and my first question?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> Ububuntu: hold SHIFT at boot and select memtest
[16:48] <bdu> ActionParsnip, 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[16:48] <Ashael> ActionParsnip: quantal
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> Ububuntu: run it about 16 mns, if you see RED, it bad RAM
[16:48] <PatrickC> ok, question.. anyone know what "/bin/bash/A" is suppose to be?
[16:48] <gustav__> I'm having small freezes. Sounds studdering. What could it be?
[16:48] <Ububuntu> thanks, any next steps
[16:48] <fixxxermet> I'm looking for a recommendation for an ubuntu book.  Gave my father a computer with Ubuntu 12.04, and it is his first computer...  So he needs help.
[16:49] <Slart> PatrickC: /bin/bash is a directory on your system? weird...
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> PatrickC: what is the output of:  file /bin/bash/A
[16:49] <PatrickC> Slart: my error is "/bin/bash: A: command not found"
[16:49] <mr_44> BluesKaj I'm not familiar with KDE so have no idea if KDE's desktop works similar to GNome. I installed the dolphin and replaced Nautilus. Everything works fine except - my desktop not active - no items on it and no right click  and i cant move anything on it. So i try to understand - is it something wrong with settings or Dolphin shouldn't do it at all
[16:49] <PatrickC> ActionParsnip: /bin/bash: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> bdu: if you run:   sudo modprobe iwl3945     does it start working?
[16:49] <Slart> PatrickC: ah.. something is trying to run a command using bash.. the command being "A" and bash responds that there is no such command
[16:50] <crizis> mr_44, nautilus handles the desktop in gnome
[16:50] <Slart> PatrickC: what are you trying to run when you get this error?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> PatrickC: you said (and I said): /bin/bash/A    not /bin/bash
[16:50] <crizis> mr_44, dolphin is just a file manager, it does not handle desktop in kde
[16:50] <PatrickC> Slart: i'm trying to run A arm -T multi -C none -n "CWM tenderloin Multiboot" -d out/target/product/tenderloin/kernel: out/target/product/tenderloin/recovery.img
[16:50] <Slart> PatrickC: my immediate guess would be a script used with filename containing spaces
[16:50] <PatrickC> and ActionParsnip: /bin/bash/A: ERROR: cannot open `/bin/bash/A' (Not a directory)
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> bdu: I have the same NIC in my Dell Lat D420
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> PatrickC: then in answer to your question, it is nothing. It doesn't exist
[16:50] <Slart> PatrickC: I'm guessing you got that off some webpage or readme file, right?
[16:51] <PatrickC> Slart: in the output of trying to compile an android kernel
[16:51] <bdu> ActionParsnip, No it doesn't.
[16:51] <Slart> PatrickC: sure the A is supposed to be there?
[16:51] <PatrickC> Slart: almost 100% sure
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> bdu: do you have a switch to enable and disable the wifi?
[16:51] <mr_44> crizis Can i replace the nautilus with something that handles the desktop?
[16:51] <bdu> ActionParsnip, WireLess Adapter not availale it says in the network manager.
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> bdu: did you define the IP addressing in /etc/network/interfaces at all?
[16:52] <crizis> sure, but don't ask with what :P
[16:52] <cannonball> PatrickC: google for some of the output a line or two or three before that line.  See if anybody else has quoted that same block of text and whether it references the 'A' or not.
[16:52] <bdu> ActionParsnip, let me check. It is not my laptop. From my colleague. He asked me today to install Linux for him.
[16:52] <crizis> if you want "gnome" to function, then you can't really replace nautilus on desktop
[16:52] <Slart> PatrickC: but you're not typing that in yourself? it's from the output of some kind of make/automake/configure script?
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> bdu: do you dual boot the system?
[16:52] <PatrickC> Slart: yes. it's in a makefile
[16:53] <L3top> PatrickC: : /bin/bash is a binary... not a directory... where are you coming up with /bin/bash/A ?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> bdu: if you have addressing set for the wifi in /etc/network/interfaces then network manager cannot touch it. Its easier to use the GUI app in this case
[16:53] <bdu> ActionParsnip, can not find any WLAN button. Could it be the ThinkVantage button?
[16:53] <PatrickC> L3top: it's referenced in a makefile
[16:53] <L3top> can I see it as it exists in the makefile?
[16:54] <bdu> ActionParsnip, no. Did a clean install of Kubuntu occupying all of the space.
[16:54] <Slart> PatrickC: ok, I've got a vague guess here..   the script might look something like this    $SOMEVARIABLE -A arm ..... and $SOMEVARIABLE is supposed to be a program of some kind needed for compiling this.. but for some reason this variable is empty and it then tries to run -A arm and so on
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> bdu: it;s a T60 you say?
[16:54] <PatrickC> Slart: that might be possible!
[16:54] <PatrickC> L3top: lemme look for it
[16:54] <mr_44> crizis ;) and still i try to  Do u have some ideas? :D
[16:54] <Slart> PatrickC: check if you've got all the required packages installed.. there might be something missing
[16:54] <bdu> ActionParsnip, T60
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> bdu: Tried Fn + F5 (look at the little icon.....)
[16:56] <bdu> ActionParsnip, tried it. Still no.
[16:56] <Slart> PatrickC: from google I found something that looks like this $MKIMAGE -A arm -T multi -C none -n 'test-multi-image' -d    $MKIMAGE might be a tool to create an image-file
[16:56] <bdu> ActionParsnip, it brings up the network manager, but no WLAN networks in sight.
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> bdu: try:  sudo iwlist unblock all
[16:56] <PatrickC> Slart: i remember MKIMAGE for something else...
[16:56] <PatrickC> that might be it
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> bdu: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan      do you see SSIDs?
[16:57] <crizis> mr_44, see the light and stick to Unity ;)
[16:57] <bdu> ActionParsnip, sudo iwlist scan
[16:58] <bdu> ActionParsnip, wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> bdu: try: sudo ifup wlan0
[16:59] <bdu> ActionParsnip, Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[16:59] <DeathAngel74> hi
[17:01] <Slart> DeathAngel74: hello
[17:01] <BluesKaj> mr_44, I'm not familiar with how dolphin works in a unity/gnome environment , installing kubuntu-desktop will solve your problem if you're willing to take the plunge . Then at login you can choose which desktop you wish run .
[17:02] <mr_44> crizis Hahaha))) No way, man. I like the  control panel in the bottom plus 1-click window control and not Unity's left panel  without any options :)
[17:02] <BluesKaj> mr_44, chose which desktop you wish to run
[17:03] <ASHER1> someone please help
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> bdu: I suggest you report a bug
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> ASHER1: what is the issue?
[17:03] <ASHER1> i download filezilla and i try to connect in my ubuntu and i get error
[17:04] <ASHER1>  "ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server".
[17:04] <BluesKaj> well , mr_44 then some more research is needed on your part , I don't know why the desktop isn't working properly with dolphin.
[17:04] <bdu> ActionParsnip, I found the problem.
[17:04] <DeathAngel74> is there anyone available to give advice about kernel, i tried 3.2 and 3.1 but they broke my wifi and sound?
[17:04] <willdabeast> For some reason, while in mid session, Ubuntu just logged me out for no reason, any way I could check what caused the issue?
[17:04] <bdu> ActionParsnip, there is a hardware switch for WLAN. Sorry for the trouble and thx a lot for your help. http://www.fixya.com/support/t9069477-in_lenovo_t60_enable_wi_fi
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> bdu: simple thing to check dude....
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> bdu: glad you got the gold
[17:05] <ASHER1> what i need to do?
[17:05] <Slart> willdabeast: when that happens to me it's usually the x server crashing.. you can check the logs /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log for useful messages
[17:05] <DeathAngel74> i have a lenovo g560 with bdcm4313
[17:05] <bdu> ActionParsnip, :)
[17:05] <mr_44> BluesKaj Thanx man. But i prefer Gnome - have no time to learn kde and my notebook could handle only pretty asceticism :) But i really into Dolphin - best file manager for me
[17:06] <BluesKaj> mr_44, it really should work , I know nautilus works well on KDE
[17:07] <crizis> BluesKaj, the thing is, nautilus handles *the desktop* on gnome, and that disappearing is the "problem" here
[17:07] <mr_44> BluesKaj notebook - laptop i mean :)
[17:07] <DeathAngel74> i really screwed up my system last night and had to remove all other kernels besides 2.6.39r4
[17:07] <crizis> mr_44, simpliest "solution" is just to let nautilus handle the desktop and use dolphin as your file manager
[17:08] <SoS> While installing ubuntu server 12.04, the screen goes black and everything stops just after verifying the timezone.
[17:08] <DeathAngel74> the only version of ubuntu that i can install on this laptop is 11.04x64
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> DeathAngel74: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:08] <RLW980> 64MB PCI-E HP 5188-1578 NVidia GeForce
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> SoS: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[17:09] <RLW980> Where can I find the drivers for it
[17:09] <DeathAngel74> natty
[17:09] <smethia> can we use skype
[17:09] <SoS> Yeah, I did.
[17:09] <SoS> Installing from Flash drive too.
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> DeathAngel74: Natty is no longer supported
[17:09] <thesadmafioso> SoS: ARe you using the graphical installer or the alternate?
[17:09] <DeathAngel74> grrr
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> RLW980: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:09] <SoS> alternate.
[17:10] <DeathAngel74> are there any other irc chats that would be of assistance?
[17:10] <DeathAngel74> servers/channels, i mean
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> DeathAngel74: it went EOL about 2 days ago, sorry. Try a fresh install of Precise for support til 2017 or use Quantal for the latest bells and whistles
[17:10] <willdabeast> thank you slart
[17:10] <lmat> I'm trying to use /usr/bin/jar to list the contents of jar files.
[17:10] <Slart> DeathAngel74: there's always ##linux but do your homework first.. they don't like people who aren't prepared
[17:10] <Slart> willdabeast: you're welcome
[17:10] <lmat> It works when I   jar tf file.jar   but not when I    jar tf *.jar
[17:11] <RLW980> ActionParsnip: Done, what next?
[17:11] <SoS> If the monitor just wouldn't work, then that'd be one thing.
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> RLW980: reboot and the driver will load
[17:11] <SoS> Faulty graphics driver or somesuch.
[17:11] <Slart> lmat: you're aware of what bash does to that command?
[17:11] <SoS> But it worked fine till that point.
[17:11] <DeathAngel74> i'm really stuck and could use some help tho
[17:11] <RLW980> ActionParsnip: Right, Okay
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> lmat: may need a:  for i in *.jar do    blah blah type command
[17:11] <tnelson> What's the equivalent of FreeBSD's `mdconfig -a -t vnode -f some-linux-ext2-partition-I-just-dded-off-a-cf-flash-card.image`?
[17:11] <lmat> Slart: I think so.  if you mean that *.jar is expanded on the line?
[17:11] <mr_44> crizis - yep looks like it's a solution. I was embarrassed with file /usr/share/applications/nautilus-folder-handler.desktop the advice in Howto was to change the executing program from Nau to Dolph. So i considered that dolphin could handle desktop. :)
[17:11] <DeathAngel74> just switched from windows to ubuntu
[17:11] <lmat> ActionParsnip: That's what I'm doing now, but I'm trying to figure out why jar doesn't take multiple files. The synopsis says "files ..."
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> DeathAngel74: why such a old release (natty wasn't that great tbh)
[17:12] <DeathAngel74> laptop config
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> lmat: not sure, bit misleading
[17:12] <DeathAngel74> =crap
[17:12] <lmat> ActionParsnip: Tell me about it ;)
[17:12] <tnelson> Or, er, if I've just dd'd a compact flash card that's reporting two partitions of type 83, so I want to mount them in Linux.
[17:12] <lmat> Slart: Is that what you meant?
[17:12] <Slart> lmat: yes.. so you're actually running   jar tf file1.jar file2.jar file3.jar or whatever the files are named.. that might not be supported by the jar command.. ActionParsnip suggested a workaround if that's the problem
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> DeathAngel74: then install Lubuntu 12.04 and you won't need a powerhouse to run it
[17:12] <DeathAngel74> my wifi won't work if i use 12.04
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> DeathAngel74: tried Quantal?
[17:13] <SoS> DeathAngel74, load up the drivers you need on a flash drive before installing.
[17:13] <DeathAngel74> anything above 11.04, breaks wifi
[17:13] <SoS> Which is actually always a good idea.
[17:13] <lmat> Slart: yeah, the workaround works. I'm wondering about the synopsis of jar which says "files ..."
[17:13] <DeathAngel74> ugh
[17:13] <DeathAngel74> i should have done my homework before trying ubuntu, i suppose
[17:14] <SoS> Doesn't need much homework, usually.
[17:14] <SoS> It's meant to be pain-free.
[17:14] <Slart> lmat: it also says "-f archive   specify archive file name"
[17:14] <PatrickC> Slart: i found the file that uses the -A
[17:14] <SoS> I've done dozens of installations, and this is the first time I've had a problem.
[17:14] <PatrickC> https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ijkp883xuwrf08/uboot-bootimg.mk
[17:14] <DeathAngel74> the main reason i wanted to try ubuntu was to compile cfw for the psp
[17:14] <lmat> Slart: ahh
[17:14] <gustav__> Hi. How do I set max speed step option? Seems like cpufreq-set isn't working.
[17:14] <Slart> PatrickC: great, did you find some way of fixing it?
[17:14] <PatrickC> not yet
[17:18] <kyan> Hello. How can I make Ubuntu 12.10 work and look the way I had Ubuntu 10.10 working/looking? There are a bunch of changes like KRunner is now almost entirely transparent so I can't see it, and the margins on the Plasma Desktop buttons and such are all different. Also I think I did something wrong because dragging the title bars of windows doesn't move them, and I think it's supposed to.
[17:19] <Calinou> did you mean: kubuntu
[17:19] <bazhang> kyan, plasma is Kubuntu
[17:21] <kyan> Calinou, bazhang: I downloaded Ubuntu Studio for the JACK settings and then installed ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, and MATE in it.
[17:21] <photofroggy> hey
[17:21] <kyan> Calinou, bazhang: I've tried Unity, MATE, and KDE, and none of them is working.
[17:22] <photofroggy> Ubuntu is being retarded; whenever I plug in my external monitor, ubuntu changes the resolution of my laptop's screen to an unusable state and doesn't display anything on the external one
[17:22] <photofroggy> any ideas?
[17:22] <photofroggy> using HDMI
[17:22] <Calinou> kyan: you forgot xfce 8)
[17:23] <Calinou> photofroggy: blame your manufacturer's drivers
[17:23] <photofroggy> actually, it's not the resolution changing... everything just gets spread up and out
[17:23] <Calinou> what graphics card? free or proprietary drivers?
[17:23] <photofroggy> Calinou: integrated stuff, intel
[17:23] <photofroggy> not sure what drivers
[17:23] <BEPC> Could I get some of you talked into liking my facebook business page for me, I need 22 more people so I can view site stats, I'm tired of waiting on others...too impatient
[17:23] <kyan> Calinou: XFCE came with Ubuntu Studio. I didn't care for it. I like Unity, MATE, or KDE as long as they work. I don't really care which.
[17:24] <dr_willis> photofroggy: seen some laptops need the monitor plugged in at powerup. and/or twiddling with the laptops fn keys to toggle displays
[17:24] <photofroggy> dr_willis: which fn keys?
[17:24] <Calinou> photofroggy: the official intel drivers are free anyway :P
[17:24] <Calinou> no idea, anyawy
[17:24] <Paul92> Hi. I sometimes have to use more terminals, and I wish to can see all at once (yes, I know that I can make windows smaller and put all on screen). Is there any way to have more terminals in one window?
[17:25] <Slart> Paul92: there's screen.. and there's regular tabs in gnome-terminal
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> photofroggy: you could use the displays icon to set the resolution of both screens
[17:25] <jrib> Paul92: you can use tabs.  Or use something like tmux (I recommend) or screen
[17:25] <kyan> Calinou: I had a heavily customised Ubuntu Maverick that I've been using for 2 years now and I only just started trying to switch to 12.10. I have no idea how to make it work and look the same as it used to, which is what I want. I'd like to be using supported software, but not have to relearn how it works and reconfigure it every time a new version comes out.
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Paul92: if you use Unity, hit SuperL + W
[17:25] <dr_willis> photofroggy: laptops normally have special fn keys. look at your keybord closely
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> kyan: install gnome-panel  log off and select the newly available session
[17:25] <photofroggy> ActionParsnip: No I can't; when I plug in the monitor all the windows are shifted upwards so I can't use them
[17:26] <Calinou> kyan: heh, ubuntu isn't against change at all... probably not the distro for you
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> photofroggy: can't see them at all?
[17:26] <BEPC> https://www.facebook.com/berepairedpc   I would appreciate any posts made there and hit the like button if don't mind. Thanks
[17:26] <photofroggy> another thing; package manager failed to update things, can't find packages at security.ubuntu.com. Bunch of firefox packages
[17:27] <infectedorganism> which would everyone say is more integrated with lubuntu, lxde, and pcmanfm.. ubuntu one, or dropbox?
[17:27] <kyan> Calinou: Hmm. I like the driver support in the kernel... not really interested in compiling myself
[17:27] <dr_willis> Paul92: termintor is a nice terminal app als
[17:27] <photofroggy> it failed the whole process because of this...
[17:27] <kyan> ActionParsnip: Will try...
[17:27] <Osarius> BEPC: Please don't advertise.
[17:27] <photofroggy> ActionParsnip: Can see the bottom inch or so
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> BEPC: please don't spam
[17:27] <meetri> is there a way to relad the xmodmap without logging out?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> photofroggy: hold ALT and you can drag it down from any point in the Window
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> infectedorganism, This is support not polling. ;)
[17:27] <photofroggy> ActionParsnip: thanks
[17:27] <photofroggy> any idea about the package manager thing?
[17:28] <photofroggy> Did I miss something important?
[17:28] <dr_willis> infectedorganism: bith seem about the same to me.
[17:28] <kyan> ActionParsnip: Don't know if it'll work yet, but thanks :)
[17:28] <Fishscene1> Which channel can I go to to fix my Nickname?
[17:28] <infectedorganism> wilee-nilee, really!? blah..
[17:28] <Gerowen> Question, I just opened Firefox and the couple of bookmarks I'd made since installing 12.10 yesterday are gone.  No bookmarks at all, not even the out-of-the-box ones
[17:28] <infectedorganism> thanks, dr_willis.
[17:28] <photofroggy> meh, only firefox failed
[17:28] <dr_willis> Fishscene1: try #freenode
[17:29] <Fishscene1> Thanks
[17:30] <GRMrGecko> I've got a all in one system which is displaying "checking battery status" and rebooting the system at random intervals. The system is up to date, someone here suggested that it is the graphics card which is doing this and asked me to push escape whenever it happens, done so and nothing happens.
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: what video chip do you use?
[17:31] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: Let me remote in for you
[17:32] <ironhalik> Anyone tried installing gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad:i386? I get unresolvable dependencies, can't use PiTiVi :>
[17:33] <PatrickC> does anyone know where to get the file "mkimage"
[17:33] <PatrickC> the package won't help me
[17:33] <PatrickC> need the file
[17:33] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[17:33] <BEPC> Srry for spamming didn't mean to offend anybody, I did ask first, should have replied via PM instead. Thanks for those who replied. bepc
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: try the boot option: nomodeset
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> !find mkimage
[17:34] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: Does "checking battery status" make sense to you? To me it makes me think that is is an issue with the hardware being from an laptop.
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> PatrickC: ^
[17:34] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: quantal
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: yes, you'll get that, then the login manager loads, sometimes intel GPUs need the option to run ok
[17:35] <meetri> is there a way to reload the xmodmap without logging out?
[17:35] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: Is there a way for me to change that option remotely? The computers are 5 miles from here.
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: if you run:   apt-cache policy streamer0.10-plugins-bad:i386;sudo apt-get install streamer0.10-plugins-bad:i386    can you please use http://pasie.org (or similar) to pastebin the text
[17:36] <llutz> meetri: "xmodmap <yourmapfile>"
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 do you get a prompt?
[17:36] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: 5 miles from here means nothing to you?
[17:36] <GRMrGecko> I am on ssh
[17:37] <meetri> Ilutz, that was too easy! thanks! i am so happy now. :)
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: you can add the option in /etc/default/grub    with the other options:  quiet splash    then run:  sudo update-grub
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: calm down
[17:37] <GRMrGecko> cGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[17:37] <Homeslice> Hey peoples. Can someone tell me what the best screenrecorder for Ubuntu is?
[17:37] <GRMrGecko> -c
[17:38] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1318554/
[17:38] <GRMrGecko> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet nomodeset"
[17:38] <Gerowen> Hey everybody, coming back to Ubuntu after not having used it for a while, is there a way to sync my Firefox bookmarks with Ubuntu One?
[17:39] <crizis> firefox has built-in sync
[17:39] <wilee-nilee> Gerowen, FF has a built in sync.
[17:39] <fishscene> I am trying to start VLC automatically (without having to log in) when Ubuntu 12.04 server boots. I've added the command to "/etc/rc.local", However, I suspect VLC cannot start because it is being executed as "root". Is there a way to execute vlc as a user?
[17:40] <magn3ts> "nautilus is the best file manager for ubuntu" <- the funniest joke I've heard today.
[17:40] <rumpe1> fishscene, hm... do you want to start vlc without X?
[17:40] <Pici> !best
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: yes, save the new file, close the editor and run:   sudo update-grub
[17:40] <Slart> Paul92: fishscene sudo?
[17:40] <crizis> fishscene, su username -c vlc
[17:40] <crizis> &
[17:40] <fishscene> rumpe1: Yes, I'm using "cvlc"
[17:41] <Slart> oops.. sorry Paul92, wasn't meant for you
[17:41] <photofroggy> ok so things are being more retarded
[17:41] <crizis> fishscene, remember the & so it starts at background :)
[17:41] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: I'll try this, thanks
[17:41] <fishscene> Slart: vlc won't execute with sudo (smart!), crizis: I'll check it out. Should I also use nohup?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> crizis: can always CTRL+Z then run:  bg
[17:42] <photofroggy> if I plug in the monitor, nothing is displayed there, and on my laptop's monitor, if I try to resize any windows, it doesn't let me make things taller than less than half the screen size
[17:42] <fishscene> For example: su username -c nohup cvlc $source --sout $destination --sout-keep &
[17:42] <crizis> ActionParsnip, he wants it to startup, to rc.local ..
[17:42] <photofroggy> so I don't know what in the hell it thinks is going on
[17:42] <photofroggy> leaving the monitor switched off etc., everything works as expected
[17:42] <Slart> fishscene: it won't run as root.. that doesn't mean you can't use sudo with it.. sudo can run something by any user.. not just root, although that is the most commonly used option
[17:43] <photofroggy> it'd be nice to be able to use my stuff, though
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> crizis: oh then you definately want it backgrounded, or it will hang the boot
[17:43] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: any thoughts? Maybe there's a ppa that would resolve the dependency issues?
[17:44] <photofroggy> any ideas on how to fix this nonsense?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: did you add the medibuntu repo?
[17:44] <ironhalik> nope
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: sudo -E wget --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list && sudo apt-get --quiet update && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update
[17:45] <bilal_> hi
[17:45] <bilal_> hlw anyone?
[17:45] <interntN00b> hello
[17:46] <photofroggy> ok, ubuntu seems to be incapable of properly handling moving the relative positions of the monitors
[17:46] <interntN00b> does Ubuntu index the content of pdf files?
[17:46] <bilal_> i am new here what is this all about?
[17:46] <photofroggy> if I line up the top boundaries windows are displayed in the correct place.
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> bilal_: this is the official support channel for ubuntu
[17:46] <newsham> hi.  I have ubuntu 10.04. I had previously manually installed the NVidia drivers. Now if I uninstall it and boot into X, the screen goes completely black when it goes into X mode. If I boot into a text login I'm fine (and can reinstall the NVidia custom driver).
[17:46] <newsham> I would like to restore the original X setup if possible
[17:46] <bilal_> then i think i am at right place...
[17:47] <newsham> dmesg indicates that the kernel driver crashes when it goes into X after the NVidia driver has been uninstalled
[17:47] <ryan_turner> Hi, Im running 12.10 64-bit. My school has a PPTP vpn. Im trying to connect to it, but it's failing. How do I access the logs showing me what is actually failing? Any tips?
[17:47] <photofroggy> dr_willis: What are the fn keys you mentioned supposed to actually do?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> !vpn | ryan_turner
[17:47] <jansonexz> hi
[17:48] <bilal_> i am using 12.04 but i get an error message in update manager when i click check for updates. any help?
[17:48] <photofroggy> dr_willis: I have an fn key featuring a square with a line either side
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> newsham: Lucid is dead in April 2013, why such and old release?
[17:48] <photofroggy> doesn't seem to do anything
[17:48] <ryan_turner> ActionParsnip: I've set it up using that. I tried to do it using command line as well as per that doc, but it just hangs in the console.
[17:48] <bilal_> ?
[17:48] <dr_willis> photofroggy: everylaptop ive seen has a dozen of them. one should be toggle displays
[17:48] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: It did resolve some packages that PiTiVi needed but gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad:i386 is still being installed :(
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> ryan_turner: can you ping the VPN endpoint?
[17:49] <jansonexz> do someone here listen to metal?
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: are there bugs reported?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> jansonexz: yes but that's not Ubuntu support related
[17:50] <ryan_turner> ActionParsnip: the gateway? I did not try that. I'm not on my desktop currently. It seems like it could be a timeout, as it takes about 30 secs or so for it to fail. I should've tried that :/
[17:50] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: Sec, let me check :)
[17:50] <kev^> quick question... is there a way i can shutdown but temporarily tell grub which OS to boot into when shutting down? ie, say im in ubuntu and i wanna shutdown and restart into windows, but i wanna be AFK so i don't have to select the option. any way i can do this?
[17:51] <newsham> action: thats what it is.
[17:51] <newsham> [   37.476566] Pid: 2101, comm: Xorg Not tainted 2.6.32-44-generic #98-Ubuntu 29
[17:51] <newsham> 01CTO
[17:51] <newsham> [   37.476568] RIP: 0010:[<ffffffffa054391b>]  [<ffffffffa054391b>] nv50_mem_vm_
[17:51] <newsham> bind_linear+0x1fb/0x2d0 [nouveau]
[17:51] <FloodBot1> newsham: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> kev^: check:  man grub-reboot
[17:51] <kev^> great thanks
[17:51] <deadmund> kev^: You could write a basic script that edits the grub config files, re-installs grub to the MBR, and then reboots.  But there is no pre-built tool that does this to my knowledge.
[17:52] <deadmund> or there is
[17:52] <deadmund> :P
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> newsham: what Nvidia GPU do you use?
[17:52] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: What if I forgot to run sudo update-grub?
[17:52] <GRMrGecko> and just rebooted
[17:52] <newsham> I dont know off hand what the gpu is
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: then no change is made to grub, you haven't told it to reread the configs
[17:52] <GRMrGecko> ok
[17:52] <photofroggy> brb upgrading to 11.10
[17:53] <ryan_turner> ActionParsnip: where can I view the logs of the VPN connection attempts?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> newsham: run:  sudo lshw -C display    what is the product line for the card?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> ryan_turner: /var/log  maybe....
[17:53] <newsham> NVS 3100M
[17:53] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: yeah, it's reported for 12.04. I confirmed it, via comment, for 12.10 - should I file a new bug report for 12.10?
[17:53] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: Will I need to reboot the system again after this?
[17:53] <ryan_turner> ActionParsnip: Ok, thanks. Ill check there when I get back home. I really appreciate the help you're providing. You rock.
[17:53] <llutz> kev^: "man grub-reboot"   should help
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: after you run:  sudo update-grub     yes
[17:54]  * thesadmafioso quietly sits and learns things by listening to ActionParsnip do their thing
[17:54] <newsham> its currently running with the vendor nvidia driver.  at one point it worked without that driver.  now when i uninstall the nvidia driver, it crashes starting up X (the machine doesnt crash, just the display driver)
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> ironhalik: I'd just confirm it in Quantal, I don't think a new bug is needed
[17:54] <dr_willis> kev^: grub used to have a "saved" option to remember tge last selected os. and it allowed you to select a new default via the cli. check the grub2 docs. see if its mentioned
[17:54] <ironhalik> ActionParsnip: thanks
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> ryan_turner: I try :)
[17:55] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> newsham: you may need to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    to make the driver load but I suggest a clean install of Precise which is supported til 2017
[17:55] <jansonexz> who wants to chat with me?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> jansonexz: try in #ubuntu-offtopic for chit-chat. This is support only
[17:56] <jansonexz> ok
[17:56] <seb_> hello
[17:56] <dr_willis> jello
[17:56] <newsham> action: I had removed the custom xorg.conf completely.  it still crashed
[17:59] <jhaldson> anyone have recommendation for a good vpn service (pay) ?
[17:59] <yash> hi all
[17:59] <alo21> hi all
[17:59] <crizis> jhaldson, ipredator
[17:59] <alo21> where I can find uds-r mark shuttleworth keynote video?
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> alo21, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=uds-r+mark+shuttleworth+keynote+video&gbv=1&sei=9RWQUMnUGOiW0QXr5oHgAQ
[18:02] <Ozzyboshi> Hi chat
[18:02] <mike_> tify
[18:03] <alo21> wilee-nilee: thanks... I was looking for on YouTube
[18:03] <GRMrGecko> ActionParsnip: After running that, ubuntu doesn't seem to know resolutions and it uses 1024x768. Is there a way to force it to be 1360x768 (or whatever the resolution was). If this fixes our issue, I don't see why we can't compromise it.
[18:07] <deadmund> Does the nexus 7 have an SD card slot?
[18:07] <llutz> !ot | deadmund: no
[18:07] <deadmund> oh sorry
[18:07] <deadmund> wrong channel
[18:08] <YokoBR> hey, guys... i can't make outlook express work through my ubuntu server
[18:08] <bkfitz> anyone familiar with Mod_evasive
[18:09] <bkfitz> for httpd
[18:09] <bkfitz> trying to get it installed on 10.04
[18:09] <YokoBR> hey guys, stahp...
[18:09] <YokoBR> why can't i use outlook behind my ubuntu server?
[18:09] <YokoBR> i've already opened smtp and pop3 doors.
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> GRMrGecko: not sure dude, least you have some sort of desktop
[18:10] <gordonjcp> YokoBR: does outlook support smtp and pop3?  These days you should be using IMAP anyway
[18:10] <gordonjcp> YokoBR: POP3 has been obsolete for about 20 years
[18:10] <bkfitz> YokoBR: was just going to suggest IMAP also
[18:10] <YokoBR> it's on pop3 :(
[18:11] <YokoBR> it's an external mail server
[18:11] <bkfitz> YokoBR: are you using UFW
[18:11] <YokoBR> it's not my choice, but my client's... so i can't change it.
[18:11] <YokoBR> well, just ubuntu and iptables.
[18:11] <bkfitz> YokoBR: and nmap verified that 110 is open
[18:12] <fishscene> crizis: Thanks for your help, it is now successfully running. I had to fix the syntax though: su -c "command in quotes here" - (username)
[18:12] <crizis> :)
[18:13] <bkfitz> Anyone successfully installed mod_evasive on ubuntu?
[18:13] <saleem> hi, i have 12.04+lightdm+openbox+pcmanfm : when i try to click/mount any other partitions listed in pcmanfm i get error Authentication is required and no partitions on my system either mount or open: what can be the reason? any hint please
[18:14] <YokoBR> hey, bkfitz, 110/tcp   open   pop3
[18:15] <terry>  saleem Hard telling but you might run pcmanfm from terminal to see what errors you might get.
[18:15] <saleem> i installed all the possible packages i can think of to automount partitions
[18:15] <saleem> ok terry , i can try that
[18:15] <bkfitz> YokoBR:  how are you running outlook on ubuntu?
[18:16] <menace> hey, my pidgin does not always start with my userlist-interface in unity. any idea how to fix this (without unity integration^^)?
[18:16] <YokoBR> bkfitz, there's an window$ computer inside my zentyal network, trying to access by pop3 an external server
[18:16] <terry> saleem: Are you using the first user? (The one that was created during install?)
[18:16] <saleem> yes terry , my default user
[18:17] <bkfitz> YokoBR: do a tcpdump when you try to POP
[18:17] <thomedy> is ther e a flex development ide in ubuntu
[18:17] <jhaldson> crizis: i'll check it out, thx
[18:18] <terry> saleem: Is pcmanfm not giving any sort of error on it's own?
[18:18] <menace> sry, just restarted pidgin..
[18:18] <saleem> no terry , pcmanfm is working fine as such
[18:18] <WebAdmin> hi all
[18:19] <WebAdmin> i need to create a wizard for my client to modify a section of the page that I have created, i want something simple. Any idea?
[18:19] <saleem> i even created .xinitrc file but that did not work either
[18:20] <terry> saleem: What is your OS?
[18:20] <terry> version....
[18:20] <saleem> ubuntu 12.04
[18:21] <terry> is pcmanfm asking for a password?
[18:22] <saleem> nope i disabled it in sudoers myself
[18:22] <smftre> is there anything I can run on a ubuntu server to test all hardware is performing correctly?
[18:22] <smftre> a kind of diagnostics?
[18:22] <PatrickC> Slart: i found the issue :D i just defined the path to MKIMAGE in the source that required it heh
[18:22] <PatrickC> -A is a switch for MKIMAGE
[18:23] <Slart> PatrickC: ah.. nice =)
[18:23] <samurai> hey all
[18:23] <PatrickC> not out of the woods completely on the compiling, but that issue is solved :)
[18:23] <Slart> PatrickC: odd that the configuration scripts didn't do that automagically..
[18:23] <PatrickC> thanks for the help Slart!
[18:23] <PatrickC> yeah, it is weird
[18:23] <Slart> PatrickC: you're welcome
[18:23] <samurai> I have lost the app-overview icon on my Gnome-shell (3.6) dock in Ubuntu 12.10
[18:23] <samurai> does anyone know how to re-add it
[18:25] <saleem> terry, i had same kind of issue with openbox on arch linux but creating .xinitrc file with exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch openbox-session entry mounts all my system partitions but this thing is not working on ubuntu
[18:28] <smftre> i checked my /var/log/messages and it says that "checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended" <- is this something I should do and how?
[18:29] <ageis> I have problems with realtek r8169 card. 10.04-->12.04 broke it. i've tried compiling and installing the latest module, and linux-backports-modules-net, but i can't get it to load the version i want.
[18:29] <ageis> modinfo shows the correct version but ethtool -i shows that an older version of the module is being loaded
[18:30] <ageis> i'd also like to force it to load r8168 instead of r8169 but thats not happening either, even with blacklisting.
[18:30] <ageis> is there any way i can force to load a specific version of a kernel module... ?
[18:30] <YokoBR> ah, i give up :(
[18:30] <YokoBR> ubuntu, stahp...
[18:34] <kode_> Whenever I install for all the updates from Update Manager, I always get "Package operation failed " message window at the end of update process. It says "The installation or removal of a software package failed ". What should I do not to get this message window ?
[18:34] <saleem> brb
[18:36] <kode_> Anyone having an answer??
[18:36] <kode_> Whenever I install for all the updates from Update Manager, I always get "Package operation failed " message window at the end of update process. It says "The installation or removal of a software package failed ". What should I do not to get this message window ?
[18:37] <wizrd> kode_: you could try to select another mirror
[18:37] <ps2> Chat chalenge accepted
[18:41] <infectedorganism> if you compile a program from source, is there an easy way to "uninstall" it after?
[18:41] <valnour> make uninstall
[18:42] <gordonjcp> infectedorganism: not really, no
[18:42] <crizis> or use 'checkinstall' to make .deb for it
[18:42] <crizis> instead of 'make install' -> 'sudo checkinstall -D -y'
[18:42] <gordonjcp> crizis: yup
[18:42] <infectedorganism> thanks. i'll read up on those to learn a bit more.
[18:47] <samurai>  is there a channel devoted to ubuntu-remix
[18:48] <trism> samurai: #ubuntu-gnome
[18:49] <NorthByNorthWest> Hi all... I just breathed new life into my girlfriends old Siemens Lifebook S7110... everything works perfect except sound...
[18:50] <NorthByNorthWest> Ive googled and searched the ubuntu forums but not found a solution that works
[18:50] <NorthByNorthWest> Sometimes the audio works after boot
[18:50] <NorthByNorthWest> Sometimes I can start some youtube clip and have audio
[18:51] <NorthByNorthWest> Sometimes the speakers starts a snapping sound every fifth second or so
[18:52] <ooooo> can someone explain to me how to use wine to run ms office?
[18:52] <Erik_D> NorthByNorthWest: Sounds like crappy / faulty speakers
[18:53] <Erik_D> NorthByNorthWest: not so much software
[18:53] <Erik_D> ooooo: look it up on wine appdb
[18:53] <gordonjcp> ooooo: #winehq
[18:53] <NorthByNorthWest> Erik_D: hmm.... dont think headphone plugs work either...
[18:53] <Erik_D> ooooo: there should be instructions there
[18:53] <fairuz_> NorthByNorthWest: Have you tried plug an earphone? to see if it's not the speaker?
[18:54] <NorthByNorthWest> fairuz_:  yes... when hooking up the laptop to the tv
[18:54] <NorthByNorthWest> ill fetch a pair and double check
[18:55] <Guest50948> I am having trouble with GIMP, I am trying to use the font Sans Italic but on the actual page it is showing normal Sans font, other fonts work..
[18:55] <samurai> thanks trism!
[18:57] <vfw> Guest50948: Sans Italic must be broken
[18:58] <vfw> Guest50948: What version of Gimp is it?
[18:59] <riktking> hi, im looking for a program that will be able to sort all my music out into folders, based on the information in the ID3 tags. does anyone know of such a program?
[18:59] <Erik_D> riktking: try easytag maybe?
[18:59] <Erik_D> Actually, I'm pretty sure it does.
[18:59] <jrib> riktking: that sounds like something fun to write!  easytag is the only program that I know of that may be able to do that
[19:00] <riktking> jrib: Erik_D thanks guys!
[19:00] <NorthByNorthWest> no audio in headphones... when I start the youtube clip the headphones start hizzing and that clicking noise starts every fifth second in the laptop speakers again...
[19:01] <BlackFate> NorthByNorthWest, since when?
[19:01] <NorthByNorthWest> BlackFate: the computer is jsut fresh installed with 12.10
[19:01] <NorthByNorthWest> BlackFate: removed XP,, sound worked there though...
[19:02] <wizrd> NorthByNorthWest: look if you got rhythmbox running. I had a similar problem. After killiing the rhythmbox process i got it working
[19:02] <NorthByNorthWest> wizrd: whats the easiest way to do that?
[19:02] <wizrd> open terminal
[19:02] <Erik_D> NorthByNorthWest: run top in terminal
[19:03] <BlackFate> NorthByNorthWest, open your terminal and run "alsamixer". make sure your volumes are maxed out.
[19:03] <NorthByNorthWest> BlackFate: done that...
[19:04] <wizrd> as Erik_D said: run top
[19:04] <wizrd> check if rhythmbox is running
[19:04] <wizrd> if so: killall rhythmbox
[19:04] <_cronus_> NorthByNorthWest, try changing the output in sound preferences, maybe to analog stereo output
[19:06] <NorthByNorthWest> Erik_D: how do i find the process name? got 'stop: Unknown job: rhythmbox'
[19:07] <Erik_D> NorthByNorthWest: I'm not actually sure what rhythmbox is called
[19:07] <BlackFate> NorthByNorthWest, pkill -9 hythmb
[19:08] <Solid-State> OMG STEAM FOR LINUXXXXXXX
[19:08] <Justice> Hello
[19:08] <Erik_D> NorthByNorthWest: Oh, I think you have to use the PID
[19:08] <Erik_D> NorthByNorthWest: If you are using the 'k' option from top
[19:09] <blip-> hid3, there was some package that install development stuff like g++, anyone recall the name ?
[19:09] <blip-> It's not dev-tools
[19:10] <NorthByNorthWest> Well... ran the 'pkill -9 hythmb' but that didnt help
[19:11] <bekks> ps -ef | grep rythm
[19:11] <NorthByNorthWest> started the gui for viewing processes but cant find anything looking like rhythmbox
[19:11] <NorthByNorthWest> thanks bekks
[19:11] <bekks> Then take the PID of that process and kill it.
[19:11] <fromhet> Hey! I'm in the process of getting an ultrabook - do you have any tips on what to avoid for best ubuntu compability?
[19:12] <NorthByNorthWest> got
[19:12] <NorthByNorthWest> mathias   6773  5915  0 20:11 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto rythm
[19:12] <NorthByNorthWest> which number is the PID?
[19:12] <Erik_D> NorthByNorthWest: 6773
[19:12] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: 6773
[19:12] <NorthByNorthWest> thanks! :)
[19:12] <bekks> 5915 is the PID of the parent process
[19:12] <Sam-L> Afternoon guys, I'm having trouble with my keyboard. Only backspace and the "menu" key work
[19:12] <Erik_D> there are titles at the top
[19:12] <urgodfather> is anyone familiar with installing ubuntu on arm processors?
[19:12] <katre> hei
[19:13] <urgodfather> more specifically... how would i go about installing ubuntu on an ARMv6
[19:14] <Sam-L> I've been looking around online all day and am still having trouble with it. Anybody got some ideas to try?
[19:14] <NorthByNorthWest> uhm.... killed it.... popping still there... ran the ps -ef |grep rythm again and got:
[19:14] <NorthByNorthWest> mathias   6808  5915  0 20:13 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto rythm
[19:14] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: Thats the "grep" process searching for "rythm" :)
[19:14] <coz_> hey guys, on 12.10 what is the command for the restart dialog UI?  I used to use   /usr/lib/indicator-session/gtk-logout-helper --shutdown  but that now just brings up the "shutdown dialog UI"
[19:14] <NorthByNorthWest> new process got spawned immediately after I killed the first one?
[19:14] <wizrd> NorthByNorthWest: killall rythm
[19:14] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: Nope.
[19:14] <bekks> wizrd: Not necessary :)
[19:15] <Sam-L> shutdown -r now?
[19:15] <NorthByNorthWest> yes... but i ran pkill 6773 before the ps
[19:15] <coz_> mm let me try that Sam-L
[19:15] <NorthByNorthWest> ill try the killall...
[19:15] <wizrd> bekks: missread
[19:15] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: And now you can only see the grep process searching for rythm.
[19:15] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: No rythmbox running anymore.
[19:15] <wizrd> must be tired
[19:15] <coz_> Sam-L,  that doesnt seem to do it :(
[19:15] <Sam-L> aighty
[19:15] <xektrum> Hello everyone, I'm testing ubuntu 12.10 and found that there's two entries in system settings for Online Accounts, is this how is supposed to be ? in this case what is the different between them ?
[19:16] <xektrum> *difference*
[19:16] <NorthByNorthWest> yep.... 'killall rythm' found no process
[19:16] <VonWhistler> Hi guys, trying to setup a kickstart file here on 12.04. The tutorial I am following is telling me to edit a text.cfg file in the isolinux directory of the extracted contents of the .iso, however this file does not exist. Has the name / location changed in 12.04. Thanks
[19:16] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: that command will NOT find a process named "/usr/bin/rythmbox". ;)
[19:16] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: As I said - you have no rythmbox running anymore.
[19:17] <coz_> xektrum,  seems one is for typical accounts , flickr etc , the other for personalization of non typical accounts
[19:17] <gordonjcp> helps if you spell "rhythm" correctly
[19:17] <bekks> gordonjcp: ;)
[19:17] <NorthByNorthWest> so killing Rhythmbox didnt help then...
[19:17] <NorthByNorthWest> my guess is that i need to find a linux driver specific for Realtek ALC262 and install that...?
[19:18] <bekks> NorthByNorthWest: It didnt help on what exactly?
[19:18] <xektrum> coz_,ok so that means my system installation is not wrong (i.e duplicated things) right?
[19:18] <coz_> xektrum,  nope, its fine, I just clean installed 12.10 yesterday.. same indications here :)
[19:18] <xektrum> coz_ thanks ;)
[19:18] <coz_> xektrum,  no problem
[19:19] <steven-> is there any way to get the tray icons back to tray in gnome3.6?
[19:19] <VonWhistler> i think i found my answer. its now txt.cfg
[19:19] <NorthByNorthWest> bekks: well.... no audio... and a intermittent popping soundin the speakers
[19:19] <NorthByNorthWest> bekks: but i get that drum sound when the log in screen is loaded
[19:19] <ryan_turner> Hi, I had an issue earlier with a VPN connection (PPTP)
[19:19] <katre> Hello!
[19:20] <ryan_turner> I've got some logs.
[19:20] <ryan_turner> http://pastebin.com/eBtf5pKv
[19:20] <ryan_turner> that's my syslog as I try to connect to a pptp VPN.
[19:21] <wizrd> NorthByNorthWest: i don't think it's a driver issue because you get the drum roll
[19:21] <NorthByNorthWest> just found this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2063728, reading...
[19:22] <glauco291> guys when I roll mouse scroll it down or up so much (ubuntu 12.04), how can I turn it more smooth?
[19:22] <wizrd> looks more like there are several programs/processes that want to use the soundsystem
[19:23] <ryan_turner> glauco291, Currently Gnome offers no way for a user to adjust a mouse wheel speed
[19:23] <katre> what is that ? how i can use this xChat systeme ?
[19:23] <coz_> glauco291,  I am going to assume  if you go to system settings  ,, mouse,, the acceleration sliders might help
[19:23] <Bauer1> guys, I have a problem during upgrade from 11.10 to 12: http://pastebin.com/dXX9tqG7 - in short, some kernel issue, and in addition, I cant seem to install the kernel, it doesnt "see" the sources I've added
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> katre  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic or so to learn IRC basics
[19:24] <coz_> katre,  well what is it you want to know? also you might want to go to the #xchat channel,, to do that ,, where you type here.. type   /join #xchat
[19:24] <NorthByNorthWest> no real help there
[19:24] <NorthByNorthWest> except forreverting to older linuxkernel
[19:24] <Chotaz> I need some help configuring the ssh server for key authentication.
[19:25] <coz_> once again, if anyone knows, on 12.10 what is the command for the restart dialog UI?  I used to use   /usr/lib/indicator-session/gtk-logout-helper --shutdown  but that now just brings up the "shutdown dialog UI"
[19:25] <Bauer1> NorthByNorthWest: are you talking to me by any change?
[19:25] <ryan_turner> Hi; I'm trying to connect to a PPTP VPN in a 3 day old install of ubuntu 12.10; it fails. This is the vpn gateway: vpn.ua.edu. Here's the university's directions for windows: http://cstest2.ua.edu/oit/services/it-service-desk/using-the-ua-vpn/ Here's my syslog: http://pastebin.com/eBtf5pKv  Any ideas what to do to fix my problem?
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> Chotaz  i use that, maybe i can help
[19:25] <NorthByNorthWest> Bauer1: sorry,no
[19:26] <Sam-L> Is anybody able to help me with a keyboard input related issue?
[19:26] <coz_> ryan_turner,  not sure but you might also want to join the ##linux channel,, they may have more resources available
[19:26] <Chotaz> MonkeyDust, What exactly do I have to do, to make ssh require validation?
[19:26] <ryan_turner> ok, thank you coz_
[19:26] <coz_> ryan_turner,  no problem
[19:26] <Sam-L> edit /etc/sshd/ config files
[19:26] <glauco291> coz_: there is no option to mouse wheel acceleration in system settings
[19:27] <coz_> glauco291,  darn let me check on the system here, hold on
[19:27] <Sam-L> sorry /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> Chotaz  moment
[19:28] <Chamunks> Anyone have any luck using xbox 360 wireless controllers and adaptors on ubuntu?
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> Chotaz  it's jus 5 lines or so, moment
[19:28] <coz_> glauco291,   is this a microsoft mouse?
[19:28] <Chamunks> i've got something installed but its not working very well with xbmc.
[19:28] <Chotaz> MonkeyDust, sure, np take your time :)
[19:28] <glauco291> yeah
[19:28] <glauco291> coz_: ^
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> Chotaz  https://ioconnor.wordpress.com/2009/07/25/automatic-backup-with-rsync-and-cron-on-ubuntu/
[19:29] <coz_> glauco291,  one of the frequent solutions I found online, was to unplug the mouse for a few seconds,, maybe 10 seconds, then plug it back in.. if that doenst work i will keep checking
[19:30] <Kruko> i went to ubuntu.com and it said "this site uses cookies. continued use of this site constitutes acceptance of these cookies"
[19:30] <glauco291> humm
[19:30] <glauco291> now it is working
[19:30] <Kruko> then i closed the tab, not wanting to accept them
[19:30] <Kruko> but strangely, i still had a cookie from ubuntu.com
[19:30] <glauco291> this problem will not turn back?
[19:30] <Kruko> despite not accepting it
[19:30] <glauco291> coz_:  ^
[19:30] <coz_> glauco291,  well according to the posts I have read, it seems to solve it  ,, let me get y ou one link for that hold on
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> Chotaz  replace X and $USER with your local username
[19:31] <coz_> glauco291,  this is an older post, but does deal with the issue    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1696794
[19:32] <coz_> glauco291,  also, although this is dealing with lxde,, check out the solution here   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1817502
[19:33] <Chotaz> MonkeyDust, But doing this, I'm making sure, above not needing a password, that noone without a key would be able to try to connect, right?
[19:33] <coz_> glauco291,  they talk about    sudo synclient VertScrollDelta=100  ... the higher the number the slower the scroll speed
[19:34] <glauco291> ok, thank you for help coz_
[19:34] <coz_> glauco291,  no problem
[19:34] <glauco291> is not it a bug in ubuntu?
[19:34] <glauco291> cause the speed was correct before coz_
[19:35] <NorthByNorthWest> gaaaahhh.... so I ran alsamixer while running 'GANGNAM STYLE' in youtube.... muted the Master... front... surroound... unmuted and WHAM... sound.... so.... muted and unmute of Master... no sound.. :-\
[19:35] <coz_> glauco291,   it might be a slight bug on 12.10  but I have see that here
[19:35] <Kruko> also, what is marketo.net, and why is it so important that ubuntu allow them to leave a cookie on my computer
[19:35] <coz_> glauco291,  rather  I have NOT seen that here
[19:36] <glauco291> we can report it, what d u think coz_?
[19:37] <coz_> glauco291,   well first I would google  this search string...  ubuntu 12.10  mouse scroll wheel too fast
[19:37] <coz_> glauco291,  check out the solutions available online first
[19:37] <coz_> glauco291,  some of the older posts may be helpful as that one command I gave
[19:38] <coz_> glauco291,  from the beginning, if it is not an LTS release, it is probably best to think of the versions inbetween LTS as experimental
[19:38] <NorthByNorthWest> fiddling with alsa mixer I sometimes get sound... when toggling mute/unmute i can get sound... another mute/unmute its not there anymore
[19:39] <coz_> NorthByNorthWest,  I have had some strange issues as well with sound on both 12.04 and 12.10 although much stranger on 12.10.. you might also want to go to the #alsa and  #pusleaudio   channels
[19:39] <glauco291> Im on 12.04 coz_
[19:40] <coz_> glauco291,  understood
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> Chotaz  idd
[19:40] <Chotaz> MonkeyDust, thanks.
[19:40] <coz_> glauco291,   still  search google using the 12.04 for the search
[19:41] <NorthByNorthWest> coz_: thanks... ill try my luck there
[19:41] <coz_> NorthByNorthWest,  cant hurt :)
[19:41] <NorthByNorthWest> Il leavy you with a music video recommendation! ;)
[19:41] <NorthByNorthWest> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M660rjNCH0A
[19:41] <coz_> thanks
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> Chotaz  that key is unique like your password
[19:43] <wizrd> seems like everyone is going crazy about that gangam style
[19:43] <Chotaz> MonkeyDust, if I ever change the username or the computer name on my Mac
[19:43] <Chotaz> ill have to generate another key right?
[19:44] <Chotaz> assuming the said Mac is the client
[19:44] <untitledwiz>
[19:44] <ryan_turner> I feel like my PPTP issue is centered around these 4 lines: http://pastebin.com/9TdiqcQd   any ideas?
[19:46] <andril> i need help :( 12.04
[19:47] <andril> hello all
[19:47] <fairuz_> Hi guya. In fstab, what are the two lasts columns?
[19:47] <jpds> fairuz_: man fstab
[19:47] <fairuz_> ok
[19:47] <andril> trying to remove elementary-desktop completely from 12.04
[19:48] <jpds> fairuz_: Sorry to be so blunt, but it's well explained there.
[19:48] <fairuz_> jpds: np. :)
[19:49] <floogy_> Hi, how to use lsof or fuser in this case? umount.nfs: /export/nfs/freenas/temp_data: device is busy
[19:50] <floogy_> I closed virtually everything
[19:51] <baskak> hi, while upgrading to 12.10 i lost my gnome classic/compiz settings. also some functions do not work (alt+tab for example). perhaps it has something to do with the gdm/lightdm question i encountered during upgrade, but it didn't make any sense to me. please help with recovering
[19:52] <floogy_> sudo fuser -cu /export/nfs/freenas/temp_data shows nothing
[19:52] <Ellis> hey
[19:52] <xav54> hi
[19:53] <shantorn> hello, i am trying to look for magazines and such in software center (12.04) and it is empty on this machine but seems to be fine on my sons laptop, could any one help me please
[19:54] <Ellis> Open a terminal on your current machine, type 'sudo apt-get update' minus the quotes.
[19:55] <shantorn> it should be updated but will give it a whirl
[19:55] <wizrd> shantorn: you could also take a look at www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[19:56] <dr_willis> baskak: try making a new user. see  if their default settings work.
[19:56] <shantorn> wizrd, that would get me downloads of fullcircle but i found a couple of magazines on my sons i would like to buy and install in mine
[19:56] <Ellis> I have a question of my own. For an experienced linux user, why should one use Ubuntu? What does it have, with the exception of support, over Fedora, Debian, Arch, or Gentoo? I've noticed the repos have got many outdated packages on Ubuntu.
[19:57] <dr_willis> Ellis: ubuntu is not a "rolling" release.  thats a major differance.
[19:57] <jrib> Ellis: use whatever you want.  In the end though, with ubuntu you get APT, a 6-month release cycle, and security updates from canonical
[19:57] <shantorn> Ellis, the big advantage i see is its ease of use and breadth of software available for it
[19:58] <willdabeast> speaking of compiz, does anyone have a lightweight slick profile I could maybe snag from them? I seem to have messed mine up, I'd love to check someone else's out. :]
[19:58] <wizrd> Ellis: for me, unfortunatly, it's the only distro that works out of the box with my core i7 laptop
[19:59] <dr_willis> willdabeast: not sure what you mean by a profile.
[19:59] <Ellis> dr_willis: I'm aware that it's not rolling release, but I still find many packages which were updated a long time ago which are not updated on the ubuntu repos. ( see: wine )
[19:59] <shantorn> any other idea's why in software center no magazines and such show up?
[20:00] <dr_willis> !ppa
[20:00] <andril> any 12.04 help?
[20:00] <dr_willis> ppas can fill the need for more up to date packages.
[20:00] <jrib> shantorn: where do the magazines come from?  Go to the laptop that has them and use « apt-cache policy PACKAGE » if you know the package name.  Or are they provided in some different way (I don't know)?
[20:01] <Ellis> Of course I could use a PPA, but half the time they don't work properly due to dependencies. Anyway, I'm going to see how Ubuntu rolls, see you.
[20:01] <shantorn> ill compare sources list, even full circle magazine doesnt show up, is totally empty
[20:02] <dr_willis> rarely have ppa issues here.
[20:03] <baskak> dr_willis: thanks, i will check it. btw. what is that gdm-related question during upgrade, can i find any info about it? it really surprised me
[20:04] <wizrd> shantorn: did you check 'software from canonical only' or 'all software' in the view menu
[20:04] <iiulian> Hi, I keep getting this kind of errors when I do sudo apt-get upgrade. Any idea how to fix them? W: Failed to fetch http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/universe/binary-i386/Packages  403  Forbidden
[20:04] <shantorn> it's set to all
[20:06] <wizrd> AND WITHIN THE SOURCES LIST?
[20:06] <baskak> dr_willis: gotta logout, then, i'll be back
[20:07] <wizrd> da@#$@%%# capslock
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> iiulian  type sudo apt-get upgrade | pastebinit and paste the url here in the channel
[20:10] <wizrd> 403 error is no linux issue. prob mirror issue
[20:10] <dr_willis> could be an entry in sources.list.d/somthing    not sources.list
[20:10] <wizrd> iiulian: try another mirror
[20:12] <wizrd> the Packages folder doesn't exist on the mirror
[20:12] <iiulian> MonkeyDust, it worked now
[20:12] <iiulian> wizrd, how can I try another mirror?
[20:13] <dr_willis> east coast servers may be down also
[20:13] <vfw> illovae: that url is incomplete, .gz is missing from the end of it.  (.gz or .bz2)
[20:13] <rattatoue> Could someone on 12.04 do me a favor,  upload there .config file from there kernel to pastebin. I am trying to fix a kernel issue and I want to compare ubuntu's with my current one.
[20:13] <wizrd> in the software center you can choose the sources
[20:14] <Bauer1> how do I install manually deb file like this? libc-bin_2.15-0ubuntu10+openvz0_amd64.deb
[20:14] <vfw> illovae: The server is up but the entry is bogus
[20:15] <wizrd> roughly translated (since I use a non english system) it would be in 'Edit -> Sources list'
[20:15] <dr_willis> Bauer1: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[20:16] <dr_willis> Bauer1: or  sudo gdebi foo.deb     my fave way
[20:16] <vfw> iiulian: that url is incomplete, .gz is missing from the end of it.  (.gz or .bz2)  The server is running but the entry in the sources.list is in error
[20:16] <Bauer1> thank dr_willis... but its no good :( I get error locale: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by locale)
[20:16] <Bauer1> I am not sure what it means, the file IS 2.15 :S
[20:16] <vfw> illovae: Sorry, wrong nick.
[20:17] <dr_willis> Bauer1: where did that. deb come from?
[20:17] <qubit> is there a way to tell dpkg that a package is already configured so it will stop trying to configure it?
[20:17] <Bauer1> dr_willis: from here: https://launchpad.net/~izx/+archive/sandbox1/+build/3467510 as a workaround to the problem described here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125742/why-did-my-upgrade-to-12-04-fail-with-glibc-not-found-or-libc6-or-requires/130717#130717 where solution is offered by the second poster - his repo has similar problem, I tried directly using the .DEB
[20:18] <jrib> qubit: why not just let it configure it...?
[20:18] <rattatoue> will noone upload there .config from the kernel for me?
[20:18] <qubit> jrib: because I'm installing postgres as part of a drbd master/slave cluster, and when installing on the slave, the volume isnt mounted so it shouldnt try to configure postgres when the /var/lib/postgresql volume isnt there
[20:19] <vfw> rattatoue: Which kernel?
[20:19] <vfw> rattatoue: Please give kernel version.
[20:19] <dr_willis> rattatoue: check the  forums or askbuntu.com perhaps
[20:20] <Bauer1> dr_willis: are you able to help?
[20:20] <dr_willis> Bauer1: no idea what the error means. i rarely upgradeable
[20:21] <phong_> hi guys, quick question ,  is it good idea to have ubuntu as host system ? then install windows as vmware?
[20:21] <dr_willis> glib and libc are rather imporntant  bits of the os.
[20:21] <phong_> or rather have windows as host and ubuntu in vmware?
[20:21] <phong_> i need suggestion please
[20:21] <deadmund> phong_: In my opinion.  Linux is a better host OS
[20:21] <rattatoue> I am trying to find the .config for a 3.2 kernel or higher in ubuntu
[20:21] <deadmund> phong_: But really it depends on the hardware
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> phong_: depends what each OS is going to be used for
[20:22] <phong_> deadmund, what do u meant depend?
[20:22] <deadmund> phong_: like the diaper
[20:22] <dr_willis> and what you do in the vm phong_
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> phong_: if you want to play Windows games then you will want Windows to be the host
[20:22] <deadmund> phong_: http://stayhomepapadotorg.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/depends.jpg
[20:22] <phong_> 80% i use windows, 20% use ubuntu.
[20:22] <jrib> qubit: you could muck about with /var/lib/dpkg/info/ but I don't understand why this is an issue for you.  Presumably, you /do/ want to configure it at some point, so why don't you?
[20:23] <dr_willis> use to do what......
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> phong_: the percentage used isn't the thing, its the apps you use
[20:23] <phong_> i only play wc3
[20:23] <phong_> can wc3 play in wndows vmware?
[20:23] <phong_> that's all i wanna to know
[20:23] <dr_willis> dual boot...
[20:23] <rar_rar> qubit: I've not tried it but have you looked into dpkg --unpack --dry-run ?
[20:23] <phong_> then i use ubuntu as host
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> phong_: what is wc3?
[20:23] <phong_> warcraft 3
[20:23] <rar_rar> (--dry-run to see what would happen)
[20:23] <iceroot> phong_: war craft 3 is running fine with wine and playonlinux
[20:23] <dr_willis> games in vms are not great.
[20:24] <ageis> I cant get Linux to load the right kernel module for r8169. I've blacklisted it and updated initramfs and everything. any tips anyone
[20:24] <iceroot> !wine | phong_
[20:24] <phong_> so what do u say? ubuntu or windows as host?
[20:24] <ageis> it loads an older version 2.3LK-NAPI when it should be working with 6.00
[20:24] <phong_> i dont really play games
[20:24] <phong_> if i do. it's only wc3
[20:24] <iceroot> phong_: ubuntu as host and install wine to play wc3
[20:25] <phong_> ok
[20:25] <iceroot> phong_: normally all blizzard games are running fine with wine/playonlinux
[20:25] <phong_> if i need to do visual studio ..i can do that in vmware
[20:25] <phong_> fine then
[20:25] <phong_> iceroot, yeah, but mouse move is sux
[20:26] <phong_> games are great on windows only :)
[20:26] <phong_> ubuntu use OpenGL which is sux then directx
[20:27] <iceroot> phong_: i dont think that opengl sux but that is offtopic here
[20:27] <phong_> ok let me install
[20:27] <qubit> jrib: because the /var/lib/postgresql volume is shared between 2 machines. It's only mounted on 1 at any given time, thus the configure should only be run on the machine that has the volume mounted. I have set `chattr +i /var/lib/postgresql` on the mount point so that nothing is accidentally loaded onto the slave
[20:27] <phong_> brb
[20:27] <qubit> jrib: this chatr +i is causing the configure to fail when it cant modify the directory
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> phong_: warcraft3 gets a gold and platinum rating in wine: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=897   you can run it in Ubuntu
[20:28] <phong_> i'm in download process
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> phong_: not played urban terror then. Or Penumbra or the many natve inux games.....
[20:29] <phong_> i'm dl ubuntu 12.10 now
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> phong_: the humble bundles have great games too
[20:29] <phong_> and format windows host
[20:29] <phong_> currently i'm running ubuntu as vmware
[20:29] <phong_> ;)
[20:30] <phong_> having ubuntu host is good too
[20:30] <phong_> FEAR NO VIRUS for browsing porn
[20:30] <phong_> ;)
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> phong_: why not dual boot instead?
[20:30] <phong_> i dont wanna keep on boot back and forth
[20:31] <phong_> plus i have problem installing it
[20:31] <phong_> wubi dont like me
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> phong_: wubi would require reboos to change OS too..
[20:31] <phong_> yeah, but something not work
[20:31] <phong_> i did try installing a while ago
[20:32] <Bauer1> guys, it seems stackoverflow, serverfault, askubuntu - all are down ATM?
[20:32] <phong_> it reboot and never install os
[20:32] <phong_> i'm going to do a clean install ubuntu
[20:32] <phong_> is there a way to get the old fashion menu ?
[20:32] <phong_> i hate the latest menu of ubuntu 12
[20:32] <ron> is there a way to check the power consumption of my box in console?
[20:32] <phong_> ActionParsnip, away to change classic desktop?
[20:33] <vfw> phong_: Ubuntu 10.04 style?
[20:33] <phong_> yeah
[20:33] <qubit> ron: powertop
[20:33] <phong_> the new style confuse me shlt
[20:33] <l0p3n> Hello! What is the easiest way to install Eclipse without installing OpenJDK?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> phong_: install gnome-panel  or install Xubuntu and you'll be fine
[20:33] <vfw> phong_: Ever tried xfce?
[20:33] <phong_> vfw, the oldstyle has the 'Applications' menu
[20:33] <BluesKaj> Bauer1, power outrages in the eastern US due to the hurricane
[20:34] <phong_> i like the look of ubuntu
[20:34] <ron> qubit: thanks, but I'm not quite sure what I'm seeing when looking at it.
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> l0p3n: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/eclipse    doesn't seem to be a dep.....
[20:34] <vfw> phong_: Install 10.04
[20:34] <qubit> ron: under the bar in the middle, you should have a power estimate
[20:35] <l0p3n> ActionParsnip: Alright I'll try that. Thanks!
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> phong_: I recommend you install Xubuntu and the desktop will be more familiar, or install gnome-panel and use that as the shell
[20:35] <ron> qubit: is it suitable for amd cpus too?
[20:35] <vfw> phong_: ActionParsnip's advise is good.
[20:35] <Bauer1> yes BluesKaj, but I thought Amazon said they were prepared this time? :P
[20:35] <qubit> ron: it should be, but i honestly havent tried. It's just generic ACPI, so it should work
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> l0p3n: could try the no-deps option (check apt-get man page)
[20:36] <l0p3n> ActionParsnip: Ok thanks :)
[20:39] <Fishscene> Greetings. What audio-type(?) does Ubuntu use by default? Alsa or Pulse?  I want to Install the one Ubuntu is most comfortable with on Ubuntu Server
[20:39] <kev^> Fishscene: i believe its pulseaudio
[20:40] <kev^> Fishscene: i had to install alsa myself
[20:40] <baskak> dr_willis: so i checked, new user on gnome classic has the same problems (no alt+tab, no super+tab)
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> baskak: What window manager are you using?
[20:41] <Fishscene> kev^: Thanks
[20:41] <baskak> dr_willis: ps. if you gave me any tips on the gdm-related question during upgrade, could you repost?
[20:41] <baskak> ActionParsnip: my original question was: while upgrading to 12.10 i lost my gnome classic/compiz settings. also some functions do not work (alt+tab for example). perhaps it has something to do with the gdm/lightdm question i encountered during upgrade, but it didn't make any sense to me. please help with recovering
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> baskak: if you enable a switcher in ccsm, is it ok?
[20:42] <baskak> ActionParsnip: i'm using gnome 2 everyday, ocassionally gnome 3 and unity
[20:42] <baskak> ActionParsnip: just a moment
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> baskak: Gnome2 is dead
[20:44] <baskak> ActionParsnip: "gnome classic" if you will. works okay, and i enjoy full compiz effects, to be true (not available on g3 or unity to my knowledge)
[20:45] <baskak> ActionParsnip: enabled switcher, and it works.
[20:45] <kev^> baskak: sorry i didnt read all the backlog but this may pertain to you. i use gnome-classic no effects, and once my alt+f2, alt+tab, etc weren't working. i had to delete the metacity gconf folder because somehow the shortcut keys were being stored as List of String instead of String... can't find the exact bug on launchpad anymore but take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/856884
[20:46] <baskak> kev^, ActionParsnip: so it seems it's a case of deleted compiz settings
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> baskak: sweet
[20:47] <baskak> kev^, ActionParsnip: can i recover them? maybe the upgrade just renamed settings file?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> baskak: I don't use compiz. I think its totaly not worth it
[20:48] <vfw> ActionParsnip: amen
[20:48] <baskak> ActionParsnip: well, on my side i am quite disappointed that all this eyecandy is gone.
[20:50] <vfw> baskak: I like an OS that doesn't get in the way, and all the eyecandy stuff is just in the way, IMO.  (xfce4 user....)
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> baskak: just re-enable the stuff you want.
[20:50] <baskak> ActionParsnip, vfw: or "wasted". but anyway. it's open to debate. the good thing is i can use it if i want.
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> vfw: openbox here :)
[20:51] <baskak> ActionParsnip: thanks, i can do it, but it was kind of tweaked to my preferences...
[20:51] <baskak> ActionParsnip: not easy to recall everything
[20:52] <baskak> ActionParsnip: btw. i'm still curious about this gdm/lightdm question i received during upgrade to 12.10, can you direct me to any explanation?
[20:54] <trism> baskak: did you have gnome-shell installed before the upgrade? gnome-shell in 12.10 depends on gdm now
[20:54] <interntN00b> does Ubuntu index the content of pdf files?
[20:54] <baskak> trism: yes i did
[20:55] <trism> baskak: so the question is because you already had lightdm but you were installing gdm, and it wanted to know which one you wanted
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> baskak: can you give some details please
[20:55] <Fishscene> Does pulseaudio require X11?
[20:56] <steven-> pulseaudio is a server, i don't think it'll require X
[20:56] <steven-> just guessing tho
[20:56] <Peanut> Since upgrading to 12.10, firefox is asking for a lot of sites, "Would you like to install Launchpad(Reddit,Tumbler) for extra features and quicker access" - any idea what that is about?
[20:56] <baskak> trism, ActionParsnip: while upgrading i was asked a question if i choose lightdm or gdm, a question which was not telling me anything. lightdm was pre-chosen, so i sticked to it
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> pulse is just a sound service
[20:56] <Fishscene> That's what I thought too, but when trying to start it on Ubuntu server, it's saying something about a missing X11 config file
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> baskak: then you have gdm and lightdm installed
[20:57] <e66> any one used dstat? What does 3076k mean in "net/eth0" column? Is it 3076 kilo BYTE per second or 3076 kilo BIT per second?
[20:57] <baskak> trism, ActionParsnip: so what's with missing prefs?
[20:58] <Fishscene> For example: "pulseaudio --start" returns: E: [pulseaudio] client-conf-x11.c: xcb_connection_has_error() returned true
[20:58] <trism> baskak: sorry I don't know about the missing prefs, they should have been migrated in the gconf-to-gsettings conversion
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> baskak: maybe the newer compiz had an issue with the old configs
[20:59] <trism> baskak: you could see what is in ~/.local/share/gsettings-data-convert to see if anything missed getting converted
[21:00] <bios_> hi! how to change resolution of the grub?
[21:00] <OpenSorce> Having trouble getting a stylus to work in 10.04. It's a fujitsu stylus, I've done the setserial and installed fpit. I know the device is working because when I do cat /dev/ttyS0 and move the pen on the screen I get output. Any help?
[21:00] <Guest2331> hello
[21:01] <bios_> can anybody help me?
[21:01] <OpenSorce> I've also created /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:02] <OpenSorce> and put in the right parameter
[21:02] <trism> baskak: maybe also run: gsettings-data-convert --verbose;
[21:02] <baskak> trism: i put it up here... http://pastebin.com/Q62bQUug
[21:02] <baskak> trism: would you have a look?
[21:02] <vfw> phong_: You're upside down
[21:03] <cali93257> anybody know how to get a windows game running in unbuntu
[21:03] <HulkHogan> yes
[21:03] <varikonniemi> how will ubuntu react when a new kernel is pushed to updates but i have installed a newer myself? will it install the "new" ubuntu build or figure that the installed one is of higher version number?
[21:03] <crqd> boot into windows, run it
[21:03] <bios_> or install wine
[21:03] <trism> baskak: looks like everything was converted, what settings are you missing?
[21:03] <cali93257> i dont have windows
[21:03] <vfw> rattatoue: see my PM
[21:03] <bios_> install wine
[21:04] <crqd> enjoy seeing it crash
[21:04] <HulkHogan> playonlinux
[21:04] <OpenSorce> bios_, Set the desired resolution in /etc/default/grub
[21:04] <OpenSorce> Change the value of GRUB_GFXMODE= (Example: GRUB_GFXMODE=800x600)
[21:04] <OpenSorce> If unsure of what resolutions are available to GRUB 2 they can be displayed by typing vbeinfo in the GRUB 2 command line. The command line is accessed by typing "c" when the main GRUB 2 menu screen is displayed.
[21:04] <baskak> trism: all the compiz (ccsm) settings
[21:04] <OpenSorce> Oops, sorry for the flood
[21:04] <baskak> trism: (for gnome classic)
[21:05] <bios_> thanks
[21:05] <OpenSorce> Sure thing
[21:05] <cali93257> anybody have a site for dummies to get files
[21:05] <vfw> cali93257: dummies files?
[21:05] <vvpalin> google.com ?
[21:05] <davegarath> hi all, I've a question about 12.04 : where can I set the focus follows the mouse ?
[21:05] <OpenSorce> Having trouble getting a stylus to work in 10.04. It's a fujitsu stylus, I've done the setserial and installed fpit. I know the device is working because when I do cat /dev/ttyS0 and move the pen on the screen I get output. Any help?
[21:05] <vfw> cali93257: What kind of files are you looking for?
[21:06] <vfw> cali93257: Or, what kind of help do you need?
[21:06] <trism> baskak: how about: dconf dump /org/compiz/profiles/Default/;
[21:06] <trism> baskak: I'm not really certain everything for the gnome-classic session is migrated correctly, it was a last minute workaround to get that session working at all
[21:07] <crqd> install tweak tools, window focus mode
[21:07] <davegarath> where is in tweak tools?
[21:07] <crqd> software centre, tweak tools
[21:07] <davegarath> I know it :)
[21:07] <baskak> trism: http://pastebin.com/s5EfLqje
[21:07] <vfw> cali93257: ls    will List names of the FILEs in the current directory
[21:08] <davegarath> where ( in tweak ) can I set it ?
[21:08] <baskak> trism: i see
[21:08] <crqd> windows tab, window focus mode
[21:08] <HulkHogan> focus mode?
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> davegarath: gnome-tweaktool
[21:09] <merfy> hello,I have a laptop with nvidia gpu which i assume it has problem.How can i boot the ubuntu live cd without using the nvidia card? What parametrs should i put in grub command line? Thanks.
[21:09] <crqd> winkey, tweak, there is a list with desktop files etc, click windows "window focus mode" to mouse
[21:09] <vfw> merfy: YOu mean without the nvidia driver?
[21:10] <merfy> yes
[21:10] <vfw> merfy: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[21:10] <merfy> vfw: i am trying with vga=771
[21:10] <merfy> vfw: wait , i haven't installed it yet
[21:11] <zatan> Hey how can I convert this command "egrep -R "random_work" --exclude-dir=media/* ."  in to alias just   "cgrep -ir "random_word"  ?
[21:11] <vfw> merfy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202677/nvidia-driver-doesnt-work-in-12-10
[21:13] <merfy> vfw: thanks for the help.But i can't even boot the machine to install ubuntu.I would only do it if nvidia card won't be used at all.
[21:14] <vfw> merfy:  Boot it up and then go to tty6,  Ctrl-Alt-F6
[21:14] <lappy_ubuntu> Hello everyone! I'm trying to dual boot ubuntu 12.10 and windows 7 on a machine with a hybrid ssd/hdd setup
[21:14] <HulkHogan> cool
[21:14] <THEJOLLYGRIMREAP> crikey thats involves a blood sacrifice
[21:14] <lappy_ubuntu> Has anyone on here ever done anything like that before?  I'm having some trouble
[21:14] <THEJOLLYGRIMREAP> lol wc
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> lappy_ubuntu: state your issue and people will reply if they can
[21:15] <danley> Hi, I'm having this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-strongswan/+bug/872824 and the bug report says it's already fixed and there should be packages (?). How can I fix it on my 12.04 installation without upgrading for now?
[21:15] <HulkHogan> lappy_ubuntu: just install win then linux
[21:15] <trism> baskak: looks like it only migrates a subset of the compiz settings, might be easier just to use ccsm and reconfigure your desktop than to fix the scripts
[21:15] <merfy> vfw: what should i do at tty6?
[21:16] <OpenSorce> Having trouble getting a stylus to work in 10.04. It's a fujitsu stylus, I've done the setserial and installed fpit. I know the device is working because when I do cat /dev/ttyS0 and move the pen on the screen I get output. Any help?
[21:16] <vfw> merfy: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak;sudo service lightdm restart
[21:17] <lappy_ubuntu> Windows 7 is already installed.  When I try to install ubuntu, it says that this computer currently has no detected operating systems, and gives me the option to delete the entire disk and install ubuntu.
[21:17] <merfy> vfw: X is not yet install for God shake
[21:17] <merfy>  s/install/installed/
[21:17] <vfw> merfy: Ok, let's start over.  What is your problem.
[21:17] <lappy_ubuntu> How can I get ubuntu to recognize that win7 is already installed?
[21:18] <merfy> vfw: i habe an old laptop(duo core) and i knew that it may have problem with nvidia card.Is there a way to not use the nvidia at all?
[21:18] <willdabeast> I got an error while trying to load this emulator, it says "Error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0, any thoughts?
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> lappy_ubuntu: resize the NTFS in Windows 7 then install to the free space
[21:18] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: yes
[21:18] <merfy> vfw: have in mind i am trying to boot.I use vga=771 for low resolution.
[21:19] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: very very old gtk libraries are missing
[21:19] <lappy_ubuntu> ActionParsnip, thank you for the help!   I will give that a try.
[21:19] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, ok should I just look it up in synaptic then and install them all?
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> lappy_ubuntu: use the platter based storage for /var swap and home too, I also suggest you put your windows page file on it too as well as %TEMP% and %TMP%
[21:19] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: give it a shot
[21:19] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: you might need to check in 1997
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> lappy_ubuntu: also have /home on the platter based drive too
[21:20] <Silent> Hey guys, I just installed EasyPeasy and I'm getting a "Boot error". What can that be?
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> Silent: EasyPeasy isn't supported here
[21:20] <Silent> Ah. I was hoping it is. Thanks anyway :)
[21:20] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, how do you check that way?
[21:21] <vfw> merfy: VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x256  would be  vga=769
[21:21] <phong_> how to make usb ubuntu boot?
[21:21] <lappy_ubuntu> ActionParsnip, I've got about 160GB of free space on the platter drive.  How do I go about assigning where to install /var swap and home?
[21:22] <quince> How can I tell which "software source" (i.e. which "deb" entry in a sources.list file) a debian package is installed from?  How can I tell which software source a debian package would be installed from if I were to install it?
[21:22] <vfw> merfy: VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x256  would be  vga=771
[21:22] <guntbert> !away > morphis|away
[21:22] <merfy> vfw: i know that.
[21:22] <HulkHogan> phong_: install unetbootin to make a live usb
[21:22] <danley> Can someone point me to the packages I need to install to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-strongswan/+bug/872824 on my 12.04?
[21:23] <vfw> merfy: But that is for console mode.  And so, tell us exactly what it is that you need to do?
[21:23] <HulkHogan> quince: well u could if u had synaptic package manager, they got a tab on the side
[21:24] <merfy> I want to install ubuntu in a laptop with ruined gpu , which can't handle high frames
[21:24] <Canuckian> ok, my googlefu is seriously failing me today. trying to find the lines for the motd that displays package info and upgrade notices on login to the tty.
[21:24] <pangur> On the Ubuntu downloads page, it offers 12.10 in two different versions (64bit or 32bit) but recommends 32 bit.  Why is that?
[21:24] <vfw> merfy: It is a laptop, right?
[21:24] <incog> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks
[21:24] <incog> eff dont like amazon spyware either
[21:24] <phong_> step by step please
[21:25] <phong_> how to make usb installer
[21:25] <phong_> man
[21:25] <crqd> panic and flail about
[21:25] <Fishscene> incog: apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[21:25] <merfy> vfw: yes it is a laptop. vga=parameter is not for console
[21:25] <quince> pangur: because 32 bit will work on all intel systems, so it'll work for people who don't know if they have a 64 bit system
[21:25] <guntbert> !usb | phong_
[21:25] <crqd> or winkey usb startup
[21:25] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: it's very very old. you might not find it
[21:26] <crqd> or usea the pendrive linux thing in windows
[21:26] <gaetano> #ubuntustudio
[21:26] <crqd> it is linked on the download page
[21:26] <gaetano> #ubuntustudio
[21:26] <vfw> merfy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:27] <pangur> I have a 64bit system but came with Windows 32bit o/s.  Does that imply that I should stick with 32bit Ubuntu too?  I have that feeling.
[21:27] <Fishscene> pangur: If you have a 64-bit computer, you might as well unlock the full horsepower and go with 64-bit Ubuntu
[21:27] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, it seems like I found it, but it still doesn't work. Same error.
[21:27] <vfw> merfy: see:  "Changing the CD Boot Option Configuration Line"
[21:27] <lappy_ubuntu> pangur, if your system has 4 or more gigabytes of RAM, use 64 bit ubuntu.  If it has less, use 32 bit.
[21:28] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, Do you think I need to restart? I don't think that's necessary
[21:28] <vfw> merfy: It's about 2/3 of the way down the page.
[21:28] <pangur> OK, thanks, quince, Fishscene.  It has 4G, lappy_ubuntu.
[21:28] <quince> HulkHogan: thanks.  I wish I knew how to get that info from the command line...
[21:28] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: nope
[21:29] <pangur> Thanks lappy_ubuntu.
[21:29] <HulkHogan> quince: u got apt-get or aptitude?
[21:29] <marcus__> hello... i have a question, my computer freezes a lot now, but it didnt before, why?
[21:29] <marcus__> total crash :{
[21:29] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: it sounds like you're trying to run something ridiculously old that you will struggle to get working
[21:29] <quince> pangur: lappy_ubuntu is saying that if it has 4 Gb AND is a 64 bit system then use 64 bit ubuntu.  If you don't have a 64 bit system, you have to use the 32 bit version of ubuntu
[21:30] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, it's actually relatively new I believe, in terms of a Sony Playstation Emulator. http://coolrom.com/forums/group.php?groupid=72
[21:30] <quince> HulkHogan: yes, both of those programs are installed on my computer
[21:30] <phong_> guntbert, stupid man, i use usb live creator for windows
[21:30] <phong_> so easy
[21:30] <pangur> Thanks quince.
[21:30] <vfw> marcus__: Is it a desktop?
[21:30] <phong_> guntbert, what an ironic
[21:30] <marcus__> yes
[21:31] <guntbert> phong_: keep polite please - you asked for intructions how to create a thumb drive to boot ubuntu, didn't you?
[21:31] <guntbert> *instructions
[21:31] <phong_> yeah, but i can't get it to intall
[21:32] <vfw> marcus__: Could be a hardware issue such as overheating or memory issues.   Pull the CPU's heat sink, clean and apply new thermal grease.  Test the memory, (boot option memtest).
[21:32] <lappy_ubuntu> Ok, can someone please tell me what size/how many logical partitions to create inside of an extended partition for an install of ubuntu 12.10?
[21:32] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, oh well, thanks anyway :) was just for fun anyway.
[21:32] <marcus__> k
[21:33] <jrib> qubit: sorry, had to step away.  Anyway, I guess you can edit the file in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ that is responsible for configuring and just comment what is inappropriate
[21:33] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: what is it you're trying to install?
[21:33] <pangur> I have an HD installation of knoppix but I had grown used to Ubuntu and want to go back to it.
[21:33] <quince> lappy_ubuntu: up to you really -- how much space do you have to spare?  Are you asking for the absolute minimum required?
[21:33] <phong_> what is virtualbox or busybox meant?
[21:33] <marcus__> i recently installed gpu drivers, could this be it?
[21:33] <HulkHogan> quince: try apt-cache show NAME_OF_PACKAGE
[21:33] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, just a sony playstation emulator with a final fantasy 7 rom. Haven't even gotten to the rom yet hehe
[21:33] <quince> phong_: did you google them?
[21:33] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: I would recomment 3.  One for swap (about 4G).  A second for / (about 20G).  A third for /home/ (the rest).
[21:33] <baskak> trism: all right, thanks (sorry for delay). is it a bug, you'd say?
[21:33] <guntbert> lappy_ubuntu: see https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html
[21:34] <lappy_ubuntu> quince, I've got 150GB.  I'm just wondering how to set it up for an install.
[21:34] <gaetano> hello everyone! i now installed ubuntustudio 12.10, why i cant watch videos such as youtube
[21:34] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: ah, there are a couple of psx emulators
[21:34] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: If you have 4G of RAM or less 4G is enough for the swap partition.
[21:35] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: there is an *excellent* emulator available for the PSX, it's called a PS3 ;-)
[21:35] <quince> lappy_ubuntu: you want to use all of it for ubuntu, or leave some for other things?
[21:35] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, I mean I have epsxe right now, maybe I should try another, the issue though is opening the .exe file
[21:35] <lappy_ubuntu> quince, I'd like to use all of it.
[21:35] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, haha well wouldn't that be nice.
[21:35] <lappy_ubuntu> Ah, thank you very much vfw and guntbert!
[21:35] <gaetano> hello everyone! i have now installed ubuntustudio 12.10, why i cant watch videos such as youtube?
[21:35] <joshuagl> Hello #ubuntu. Has anyone seen "can't load DistUpgradeViewGtk3 (Gtk couldn't be initialized)" when trying to use update-manager to update to 12.10 ?
[21:35] <guntbert> !repeat | gaetano
[21:36] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: If you are going to use the entire hard drive, three primary partitions are all you need.
[21:36] <superstructor> hello :-) I installed 12.04.1 with debootstrap. everythings good but I can't display unicode chars in a konsole or gnome-terminal. Just displays junk where the unicode char should be. Any idea how I can diagnose / fix this issue ?
[21:37] <superstructor> aparantly localeconf is not a package anymore... ?
[21:38] <lappy_ubuntu> vfw, I won't be using the entire HDD, only 150gb of free space that I've cleared up.  There's a few other partitions on it that I don't want to remove.  Hence the Extended/logical partition setup.
[21:38] <jean_robles> hola
[21:38] <quince> lappy_ubuntu: if you're not encrypting your root partition (which is a good idea, but ubuntu makes a bit of a pain still), I'd just put it all in one partition (plus probably another for swap).  Others recommend a separate /home partition, I guess because they find it easier when reinstalling ubuntu from scratch -- but the advice from Canonical is not to do that (because they installer is supposed to preserve your home f
[21:38] <quince> olders even when reinstalling).
[21:39] <guntbert> quince: where did you read that?
[21:39] <xpatriot> channel is logged?
[21:39] <xpatriot> wtf is that?
[21:39] <guntbert> !logs | xpatriot
[21:39] <lappy_ubuntu> Ok, and these partitions should be in ext4 I assume?
[21:40] <xpatriot> what's a good server where you are not censored/logged/recorded?
[21:40] <HulkHogan> always seperate ur /home from /
[21:40] <quince> guntbert: somewhere a long time ago.  Sorry if I'm misattributing it.
[21:41] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: Ok, then I stand with my above recommendations
[21:41] <guntbert> quince: I was asking because I don't remember the installer to preserve /home when doing a fresh install
[21:42] <lappy_ubuntu> vfw, that's what I was going to go with.  I figure it would be nice not to lose my files incase I screw something up and need to reinstall
[21:42] <quince> guntbert: I never remember *anything* about what the installer does, so I'm the wrong person to ask ;-)  Personally, I don't trust it to get anything right -- when I reinstall, I do it on a separate hard drive and unplug the old one (and I rarely upgrade)
[21:43] <belgianguy> hmm, anyone else having odd icon artifacts when dragging an icon from the Unity bar?
[21:43] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: Yes, having a separate /home/ partition makes it easy if you decide to re-install, (in case you want to leave your files intact).
[21:43] <quince> not becuase I think it's particularly untrustworthy -- I'm just not very trusting about it
[21:44] <lappy_ubuntu> Ok, so 2 last questions for everyone.  What filesystem should I make these partitions?  And how large should my swap partition be if I have 8GB of RAM?  I think I heard it should be double the RAM, but I'm not sure on that.
[21:44] <quince> lappy_ubuntu:  ext4 is fine
[21:44] <HulkHogan> seperate /home / and swap
[21:44] <crqd> btfs whoo
[21:44] <emes> how do I change the number of workspaces on unity on 12.10?
[21:44] <crqd> btrfs*
[21:44] <lappy_ubuntu> quince: good to know
[21:45] <HulkHogan> emes: open compiz settings
[21:45] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: I agree with quince, ext4 is good
[21:46] <quince> lappy_ubuntu: how long is a piece of string?  Personally I tend not to use swap at all.  About same swap size as RAM size is fine.
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> quince: twice as long as half it's length
[21:46] <merfy> with 8gb , no need to use swap
[21:46] <bekks> merfy: Wrong.
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> merfy: unless you want suspend etc
[21:46] <vfw> merfy: Your logic is flawed.
[21:46] <lappy_ubuntu> vfw: thanks.  quince: I'll go for 8GB of swap then.
[21:46] <merfy> bekks: why wrong?
[21:46] <emes> HulkHogan: thanks
[21:46] <HulkHogan> swap is good if u are going to hibernate/sleep
[21:47] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: Good.
[21:47] <bekks> merfy: See the comment of ActionParsnip
[21:47] <bekks> HulkHogan: s/good/required/
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> with 8Gb I wouldn't have swap but I've never used hibernate
[21:47] <vfw> HulkHogan: It's good for other things as well but... nufsaid
[21:47] <merfy> no need for swap i wouldn't use with 8 gb ram
[21:48] <bekks> merfy: So you wouldnt use swap/hibernate.
[21:48] <merfy> what do you by hibernate?
[21:48] <vfw> merfy: Have it your way.  If you don't want to use swap, don't.  But don't recommend it to others.
[21:48] <merfy> what do you mean by hibernate?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> merfy: when you hibernate, the RAM contents are put into the swap space
[21:49] <bekks> merfy: Putting your computer in a powerless state, with the ability to restore the last running state within seconds.
[21:49] <quince> lappy_ubuntu: actually, probably there is a more sensible answer than I gave.  But I suspect most people who confidently give advice about it don't really know what that answer is (certainly I don't).  It's easy to invent plausible answers, but likely lots of those are wrong...
[21:49] <merfy> bekks: do you believe 8 gb aren't enought?
[21:50] <bekks> merfy: I dont even believe, I know it. You cannot hibernsate without swap.
[21:50] <bekks> *hibernate
[21:50] <vfw> quince: Suppose all you want......... Not sure it is helpful though.
[21:51] <quince> lappy_ubuntu: bekks makes a good point about suspend to disk, though
[21:52] <lappy_ubuntu> quince: I don't use the hibernate feature, but I'll be sure to leave enough swap space for it incase I ever decide to later.
[21:53] <quince> vfw: sorry, my comment wasn't directed at you personally.  The suggestions about swap space size seem rarely to come with a carefully thought-out explanation of why that size is optimal.  That's why I suspect that they are not optimal.
[21:54] <lappy_ubuntu> Alright, so I've made my partitions and now I'm installing.  What should I select from the dropdown menu when it asks "Device for bootloader installation"?
[21:54] <vfw> Although I think we have ran the swap discussion into the ground, but here is some good info for those who are interested:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[21:54] <quince> vfw: also, expectations about performance are often wrong without detailed knowledge of the relevant program's internals (the kernel, in this case), and careful measurements.
[21:55] <vfw> quince: Just read from the above URL.
[21:55] <quince> vfw: it doesn't add confidence that that very page apologizes that its own advice is likely "a myth"
[21:55] <HulkHogan> it usually says /sda for bootlooder install
[21:56] <vfw> quince: Read, don't comment.  (And that is not what it says.)
[21:57] <lappy_ubuntu> HulkHogan:  My setup is a ssd/hdd hybrid drive.  The SSD is /sda and that is where windows is installed.  There is probably some free space left but it shows up as unallocated space in GParted.  Will that be a problem?
[21:58] <quince> vfw: cheer up
[21:58] <merfy> bekks: how can i monitor the usage of swap when hibernate?
[21:58] <lappy_ubuntu> My other choices are the HDD and various partitions on the HDD
[21:58] <HulkHogan> lappy_ubuntu: if ur linux install in on sda then install the bootloader on that
[21:59] <bekks> merfy: free -m will show you how much RAM is used, slighty more will be used by hibernate.
[21:59] <gaetano> hello! what i gotta isnstall to watch youtube videos?
[21:59] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: Choose sda  (the drive the computer boots from, the primary hard drive).
[21:59] <xangua> gaetano: adobe flash player
[21:59] <HulkHogan> gaetano: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:59] <aoeuid> does anyone know how to turn off alt+drag behavior in gnome3? I tried changing mouse-button-modifier with dconf-editor, but alt+drag behaves the same no matter what I set it to
[21:59] <quince> merfy: or cat /proc/meminfo
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> gaetano: flash
[22:00] <merfy> free -m  total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[22:00] <merfy> Mem:         12017       1845      10172
[22:00] <superstructor> I installed 12.04.1 with debootstrap. everythings good but I can't display unicode chars in a konsole or gnome-terminal. Just displays junk where the unicode char should be. Any idea how I can diagnose / fix this issue ?
[22:00] <lappy_ubuntu> HulkHogan: My linux install will be on /dev/sdb.  So, should I choose that?
[22:00] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: The existing bootloader is overwritten by grub, (and that is what you want to do).
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> merfy: 12Gb RAM?
[22:00] <HulkHogan> lappy_ubuntu: yes
[22:00] <merfy> yes
[22:00] <lappy_ubuntu> vfw: Ok, thank you for the information.
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> merfy: you want the used RAM on the 2nd line, this is the actual used RAM, not the cahces
[22:00] <quince> merfy: free usually prints a second line, listing the swap usage.  Do you have swap enabled?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> *caches
[22:01] <merfy> quince: nop
[22:01] <gaetano> hulkhogan: what i have to do to install restricted -extra? to type on the terminal "sudo apt-get install restricted-extra?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> gaetano: the package is ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:02] <quince> merfy: I don't know what nop means, sorry?
[22:02] <HulkHogan> gaetano: u can use the software center also
[22:02] <lappy_ubuntu> Alright, I'm going to start this install now.  I just want to thank everyone on here.  You guys have been super helpful, and I really appreciate it!
[22:02] <bekks> merfy: take alook at www.linuxatemyram.com please
[22:02] <merfy> quince: i don'use swap
[22:02] <lappy_ubuntu> I'd probably be too chicken to dual boot on this setup with your advice.
[22:02] <vfw> lappy_ubuntu: NP....
[22:02] <quince> gaetano: yes, but it's ubuntu-restricted-extras , not restricted-extras
[22:03] <quince> merfy: ah, right
[22:03] <gaetano> ok thanks to all!
[22:03] <rangergord>  I'm trying to create an alias in my .bashrc that does the following: "cd /dir" and "svn update". Except I want to see the output of the "svn update" command. How can I do this? alias xxx='cd dir;svn update' doesnt echo anything
[22:03] <quince> rangergord: consider (cd /dir && svn update) instead
[22:03] <bekks> rangergord: because "dir" is unknown.
[22:04] <HulkHogan> rangergord: alias cdsvn='cd dir && svn update'
[22:04] <bekks> HulkHogan: Wrong.
[22:04] <rangergord> oh hay that worked, thanks
[22:04] <bekks> rangergord: cd /dir && svn update
[22:04] <rangergord> bekks: that was a typo :)
[22:04] <bekks> ;)
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> bekks: instead of just saying 'wrong', just post the correction. You'll seem less aggressive
[22:05] <bekks> ActionParsnip: I just did.
[22:05] <quince> rangergord: because that does the cd in a subshell, so following shell commands will still have the same pwd.  It's good to never change the pwd except in a small program section, because that way you're not relying on global state (if you rely on global state, it's hard to get that right).
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> bekks: yes, after the 'wrong' bit
[22:05] <bekks> ActionParsnip: kk
[22:06] <merfy> end_request: I/O error,dev sr0, sector 23526 , that means either the cd driver or the disk i use has problem?
[22:08] <quince> rangergord: oops, misread your question, ignore my comment
[22:09] <quince> rangergord: does it work for you now?  your alias looks fine to me
[22:09] <Granata_> anybody to ask about qt integration problems with ubuntu?
[22:09] <vfw> Granata_: Why?  Are you about to?
[22:09] <quince> (other than the use of semicolon)
[22:10] <gaetano> quince: ok, flesh plugin is installed, but the installation of extras keep going..and its a lot! do i have to let the whole extras be installed?
[22:10] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: ping
[22:10] <trism> baskak: yeah it's a bug, but one that unless someone takes the initiative, goes through and debugs/tests the migration scripts, and fixes them if there are issues, it probably won't be fixed unfortunately (until about a week before release, gnome classic didn't work at all without manual configuring)
[22:10] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: you know what I said about PSX on PS3?
[22:10] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: that works a whole lot better when it's not taking 45 minutes to do a firmware update because the wind is basically blowing the packets out of the telephone wires
[22:10] <quince> gaetano: I don't know -- I was just correcting your command to match the suggestion that somebody else made
[22:10] <lappy_ubuntu> Ok, when I click install I get an error message that says "No root filesystem is defined.  Please correct this from the partitioning menu."  Where can I find this partitioning menu?
[22:11] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, wait by PS3 I assume you mean playstation 3 correct? haha
[22:11] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: eyah
[22:11] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, I mean I'd love to if I had a ps3
[22:11] <gordonjcp> willdabeast: at this rate I'd be quicker driving in to town to pick up a PS2
[22:12] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, haha yea I'd love to if they accepted candy as currency
[22:13] <quince> does anybody have screenlets working on gnome 3?  I always get this error on attempting to add a screenlet using the screenlets manager: The name <screenlet service name here> was not provided by any .service files
[22:14] <quince> I don't see why it *should* work, because gnome-screenlets-all does not contain any DBUS .service files!
[22:14] <quince> seems to happen for all screenlets -- at least, for the first two I tried
[22:14] <shantorn_> could someone please pastebin the default software sources that came with 12.04
[22:15] <HulkHogan> shantorn_: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[22:15] <quince> Granata_: what specifically?
[22:15] <uglyoldbob_> what do i need to do to stream a quickcam pro 9000 at 30fps using ffmpeg? All I can get so far is 15fps
[22:16] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, I think you're right though, may just buy a ps2 haha
[22:16] <willdabeast> gordonjcp, or just dualboot and try windows 7 with it.
[22:17] <willdabeast> does anyone know how to decrease the size of the Alt-Tab box that pops up? It looks like I am in 800x600 when it comes up.
[22:18] <guest-ZCEwDJ> no
[22:18] <gordonjcp> Unity needs a "MovieOS" button that makes the icons four times as big
[22:18] <gordonjcp> and makes all the desktop effects much more showy
[22:19] <bekks> And introduce 7.1 THX sound effects :)
[22:24] <amagee> hey I just installed ubuntu 12.04 on a new SSD (already have ubuntu installed on a hard drive on the same computer).  it installed successfully but I think I selected the wrong device to install GRUB on, so it's booting to the old installation.  Can I fix this from the old installation?
[22:24] <willdabeast> i'd uninstall the grub and reinstall it on the new partition amagee
[22:25] <amagee> willdabeast: how do i do that?
[22:26] <willdabeast> amagee let me find the link, pretty easy process
[22:26] <Jordan_U> amagee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[22:26] <willdabeast> amagee http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/
[22:26] <willdabeast> or that ;]
[22:27] <Jordan_U> amagee: Be sure to also run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" after that as well, to make sure that the grub-pc package is configured to install grub's boot sector to the correct drive (and *not* to any partitions) on upgrades.
[22:28] <amagee> hmmmm
[22:28] <amagee> last time i did this it was much easier iirc
[22:28] <amagee> ah maybe i used boot-repair
[22:30] <fchandler> What would be the simplest way to see the websites on my ubuntu 12.04 desktop w/ apache over my lan so I can see them on my windows boxes?
[22:30] <kolja_> hi
[22:30] <tassmjau> hey, does anyone have a clue how to use ssh-keys with an encrypted homefolder, that's been nagging me all day...
[22:31] <jrib> fchandler: install apache, navigate to your server's ip
[22:31] <quince> tassmjau: what do you mean "use" exactly?
[22:31] <ArSn> root@vokky ~ # nice 10 echo "wtf";
[22:31] <ArSn> nice: 10: No such file or directory
[22:31] <ArSn> am I dumb? How can "nice" not exist? oO
[22:32] <quince> tassmjau: use as the key that is used to encrypt the folder?
[22:32] <bekks> ArSn: "10:..."
[22:32] <Linkandzelda> hi, what is the feasabiity of running mac os x applications on a linux system such as ubuntu?
[22:32] <fchandler> I guess I need to set up virtual hosts on the apache
[22:32] <ArSn> 10:?
[22:32] <bekks> ArSn: 10 is interpreted as a cmd.
[22:33] <bekks> ArSn: nice -n 10 echo ...
[22:33] <tassmjau> quince: well, no, I have a server that I'm ssh-ing to... and I need to use git from there, it works fine from the "standard" desktop env in ubuntu 12.10
[22:33] <quince> LikeLakers2: in principle you could run Mac OS X applications in a virtual machine. running on ubuntu.  Apple doesn't really support that except for OS X server, though
[22:33] <ArSn> aha
[22:33] <ArSn> but minues levels are not interpreted as command?
[22:33] <ArSn> *minus
[22:33] <tassmjau> quince: but I prefer i3, and there I get PublicKey errors...
[22:33] <quince> LikeLakers2: it's a bit of a pain I think
[22:33] <ArSn> negative, lets say
[22:34] <quince> LikeLakers2: (I'm not saying anything about other options than VMs)
[22:34] <tassmjau> I'm guessing the standard one comes with some decrypt-magic on login...
[22:34] <bekks> ArSn: Nope, according to "man nice".
[22:34] <tassmjau> looked around for it... but no cigar
[22:34] <Jordan_U> ArSn: The "nice: " Meant "This error message is coming from the nice command" (which is often useful to know when debugging long scripts).
[22:34] <ArSn> ah oh, good to know
[22:34] <ArSn> okay, thanks guys
[22:35] <quince> tassmjau: so you're thinking that the fact that you can't ssh to a server is due your use of the encrypted home directory feature of Ubuntu?
[22:35] <quince> tassmjau: What is i3?
[22:35] <amagee> ok, rebooting :)
[22:36] <tassmjau> hmm, yeah, I'm guessing that git cant read my public-key since it's under encryption... I may be way off here :)
[22:36] <jrib> !ssh | tassmjau
[22:36] <quince> tassmjau: you're guessing the standard what comes with some "decrypt-magic" on login?
[22:36] <jrib> tassmjau: you need to place the authorized_keys file somewhere outside the encrypted home.  See ubottu for details
[22:37] <quince> !ssh | quince
[22:37] <tassmjau> quince: the standard desktop environment, I'm using i3wm.org, a tiling wm...
[22:38] <tassmjau> jrib: hi, I don't have an authorized_keys tho... or, I have on the server, but not on my local machine...
[22:38] <quince> jrib: you're suggesting that he's not got the encrypted home directory mounted?
[22:38] <quince> or that there's some special issue affecting ssh related to encrypted home directories?
[22:39] <jrib> tassmjau, quince: I'm assuming the issue is you are sshing to a server with encrypted homes and using ssh keys.  If that's not the case, please restate your issue
[22:40] <quince> is it the host that you're sshing to that has the encrypted home dir, or the server that you're sshing from?
[22:40] <tassmjau> jrib: I'm sshing _from_ an encrypted home, to a server, from which I can't do git stuff...
[22:40] <quince> there's nothing special about encrypted directories once they're mounted
[22:40] <jrib> tassmjau: when you login the home is decrypted.  Are you not logged in?
[22:41] <tassmjau> jrib: yeah, I'm logged in...
[22:41] <jrib> tassmjau: is your home not decrypted?
[22:41] <tassmjau> jrib: it is decrypted...
[22:41] <tassmjau> :S
[22:41] <jrib> tassmjau: are your keys not available to you in ~/.ssh/ ?
[22:41] <tassmjau> jrib: yeah they are
[22:42] <quince> ssh -v <server>
[22:42] <quince> that should tell you what ssh is doing
[22:42] <jrib> tassmjau: you need to state exactly what you are doing that is failing
[22:42] <tassmjau> quince: thanks! i'll have a look
[22:44] <quince> if the -v switch doesn't tell you anything interesting (e.g. perhaps there is a file permissions problem on the host from which you are attempting to ssh), then the logs in /var/log on the server you're sshing to may help (but you may need to enable logging in /etc/ssh/ssd_config on the server to get useful logs)
[22:44] <tassmjau> quince: jrib: all is fine and dandy, about 30 lines of successes until these two comes along:
[22:44] <tassmjau> debug1: key_parse_private_pem: PEM_read_PrivateKey failed
[22:44] <quince> pastebin?
[22:44] <tassmjau> on it :)
[22:45] <jrib> tassmjau: throw in this too: ls -ld ~/.ssh/ ~/.ssh/*
[22:50] <tassmjau> jrib: quince: sorry for being slooow: http://pastebin.com/nsdVw5hM
[22:51] <jrib> tassmjau: did you... type this out?
[22:52] <tassmjau> jrib: haha
[22:52] <tassmjau> jrib: no
[22:52] <arronhunt> hey guys. I believe I messed up my MySQL configuration. How can I completely destroy it and reinstall it?
[22:53] <jrib> tassmjau: I think quince asked you to pastebin so he could see the 30 lines you mentioned
[22:53] <gordonjcp> arronhunt: yes
[22:53] <gordonjcp> arronhunt: sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql*
[22:53] <tassmjau> jrib: oh-mama, I'm getting sleepy over here
[22:53] <gordonjcp> arronhunt: have a look and see if any stuff is hanging around in /var/lib/mysql
[22:53] <jrib> tassmjau: I asked about you typing it out because your ls output is missing the group and it says "<user>"
[22:53] <quince> tassmjau: chmod a-x ~/ssh/id_rsa.pub
[22:54] <arronhunt> gordonjcp alright great. what if there is something in /var/lib/mysql
[22:54] <jrib> tassmjau: you're sure key-auth works when you use the other desktop environment as this same user and ssh to the same server?
[22:54] <quince> tassmjau: like jrib said, I was interested in the rest of the ssh -v output.  But the id_rsa.pub permissions look wrong -- the chmod command I wrote above should fix that.  I don't know that that's causing your problem though.
[22:55] <jrib> quince: .pub should be the public key
[22:55] <quince> jrib: sure.  Permissions still look wrong though, and ssh is picky about those of course
[22:55] <jrib> quince: but you're right it shouldn't be +x anyway
[22:56] <jrib> quince: maybe it got copied to the server that way too
[22:56] <tassmjau> jrib quince ah ok,
[22:57] <tassmjau> strange thing is that it's working both on a mac and in the standard desktop env in ubuntu...
[22:58] <jrib> tassmjau: you never input the password in the other environments?  They may do some sort of password caching
[22:59] <tassmjau> jrib yeah they might... I was prompted the first time, that's true...
[22:59] <quince> tassmjau: perhaps you have multiple private keys on the server, and the mac &c. are using a different private key.  Or they are using a different user account on the server you are trying to ssh to.  Could be all kinds of things -- best just to look in the logs and find out for sure.
[22:59] <tassmjau> quince: jrib: yep, that's probably what I'll do in the morning then :) thanks alot for looking into this with me :)
[23:00] <quince> if logging isn't enabled on the server, you may need to edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and perhaps restart sshd on the server (sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart or something)
[23:02] <tassmjau> quince: thanks, it seems to be enabled though
[23:03] <vith> does ubuntu host a debdelta repository? i'm having trouble finding the answer with google
[23:06] <qwd> I'm trying to play videos from the dvd to Molecular Cell Biology of the Cell 5th edition. Some of them work in Totem but most don't. VLC doesn't work either. I have restricted gstreamer-stuff installed. The files are .mov
[23:07] <quince> tried kaffeine?
[23:07] <quince> in my experience, it's not uncommon still that exactly one of totem, vlc, and kaffeine will play something
[23:08] <quince> do you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad installed?  google it
[23:10] <Jordan_U> qwd: This is an actual commercial DVD?
[23:10] <jrib> qwd: try mplayer too
[23:10] <arronhunt> when I backspace in vi it just moves the cursor backwards. When I use the arrow keys it inserts characters 'a','b','c' and 'd'. Did I do something?
[23:11] <jrib> arronhunt: are you using vim or vim-tiny?
[23:11] <arronhunt> i'm not sure. $vi file.txt
[23:11] <qwd> Jordan_U: It's a dvd but it's not a video dvd. It contains mov files, pdfs, images and stuff like that. The info file says to use Quicktime and mentions Adobe Flash.
[23:11] <kaushal> Hi
[23:12] <jrib> arronhunt: try "vim" instead of "vi" and do a: readlink -f $(which vim)     to see where vim is pointing to
[23:12] <kaushal> I am running Ubuntu 11.10 and is 4G LTE modem supported?
[23:12] <Jordan_U> qwd: Could you pastebin the output of "mplayer /path/to/video.mov"? (assuming that mplayer also fails to play it properly)
[23:12] <quince> kaushal: update-alternatives --display vi
[23:12] <arronhunt> jrib `vim: command not found`
[23:13] <jrib> arronhunt: you're sure this is ubuntu? :P
[23:13] <quince> arronhunt: update-alternatives --display vi
[23:14] <arronhunt> jrib lol yeah. i'm a linux noob though
[23:14] <pax> ls -all
[23:14] <jrib> arronhunt: you have X on this machine?
[23:14] <arronhunt> jrib I don't know what that is, probably no. quince that says it is vim.tiny
[23:15] <jrib> arronhunt: graphical environment?
[23:15] <quince> arronhunt: sudo apt-get install vim
[23:15] <arronhunt> jrib no
[23:15] <arronhunt> quince I assumed vim came packaged with ubuntu
[23:15] <quince> you're using the cut-down version of vim -- it's not very good IIRC, might as well just use full-blown vim
[23:15] <jrib> arronhunt: install vim-nox  (I don't actually remember the difference between the vim and vim-nox packages)
[23:15] <quince> arronhunt: it does, but it's not installed by default
[23:16] <arronhunt> awesome, thanks guys. That should make life easier
[23:16] <zoktar> my login splash screen and logout splash screen seem to have vanished, do i need to reinstall some packages to get them back?
[23:17] <zoktar> not login splash screen, but loadsplashscreen
[23:18] <GraemeLion> So, has anyone noticed text scrambled/garbled with Nvidia cards on 12.10?  Workarounds/fixes?  Nouveau card, everything updated
[23:18] <quince> What do you mean by loadsplashscreen?
[23:18] <quince> the boot time splash screen?
[23:18] <zoktar> the splash screen between grub and login screen
[23:18] <zoktar> ye
[23:18] <zoktar> and also the shutting down serivies for reboot splash screen
[23:19] <zoktar> looks so much cleaner without wall of texts
[23:20] <quince> zoktar: maybe this will turn up some info: sudo grep -rli plymouth /var/log
[23:20] <quince> did you do anything recently with grub?
[23:20] <overdub> I have a fresh 12.10 install and it keeps shutting down when I leave it idle, any ideas what might be causing this?
[23:20] <zoktar> aye
[23:20] <zoktar> with grub customizer
[23:21] <simpleton> what basic skills should i practice to use my computer well?
[23:21] <Silent> Hello :)
[23:21] <quince> overdub: is this on a laptop?  I guess power management might be responsible?
[23:21] <overdub> it's not a power issue, just either logs out or restarts when I leave it over night
[23:21] <overdub> quince, yes, a Lenovo which ran previous versions with no problems
[23:21] <Silent> I have Intel GMA 3150 and I have a bit of tearing. Apparently VSync is disabled, and I'm not using Compiz. How do I emable VSync?
[23:22] <quince> I'm not saying it's running out of power -- perhaps some power management system is just deciding to shut it down / suspend to disk / whatever to be a good green citizen or something
[23:23] <quince> simpleton: that's quite a general question!
[23:24] <overdub> quince, thanks for the insights, i checked my power setting and will keep an eye on it
[23:25] <Necro> Hi guys, sometimes when I start my computer, Ubuntu 12.10 fails to recognize the USB drives already plugged in. I started my computer 10 minutes ago and Ubuntu still doesn
[23:26] <Necro> doesn't see the flashdrive and external drive I have plugged in. How can I force it to search for USB devices?
[23:26] <simpleton> yeah i'll look it up you don't have to do my own research, but i would like an answer to the query of how to resolve all these difficulties involving computers.
[23:27] <quince> zoktar: I imagine your grub changes disabled the splash screen.  grub changed so many times I no longer know where to look for the configuration... maybe /etc/default/grub?  I see I have a "quiet splash" in there in the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[23:30] <quince> simpleton: you have to name a specific difficulty -- pick one, then just ask (don't ask to ask)
[23:31] <simpleton> how do people get what they want
[23:31] <simpleton> from computers or anything else
[23:33] <sybiam> Hi
[23:34] <sybiam> anyone running linux on a macbook?
[23:34] <satwood> does ubuntu come with exim4 installed by default ?
[23:34] <sybiam> I'm having a hardtime booting and installing ubuntu on a macbook 5.1
[23:35] <blackshirt> satwood: no
[23:35] <MonkeyDust> !mac > sybiam start here
[23:35] <satwood> can the config files of debian be used simply in ubuntu also ?
[23:36] <sybiam> my comp has a broken dvd drive and live usb fails to boot
[23:36] <quince> satwood: which config files exactly?
[23:36] <satwood> exim4
[23:36] <satwood> and dovecot
[23:37] <sybiam> ubottu: what is that?
[23:38] <sybiam> MonkeyDust: this thing doesn't help
[23:39] <quince> satwood: I wouldn't be surprised if they worked unchanged
[23:39] <MonkeyDust> sybiam  then state your question with more details
[23:40] <sybiam> Since I have a brokend dvd drive and the live usb doesn't seem to work, how could I install ubuntu on that comp?
[23:40] <sybiam> I had in mind that I could take out the hardrive and install from a different comp but I'm not sure it will boot
[23:41] <Jordan_U> sybiam: Taking out the hard drive and installing from a different machine should work.
[23:41] <Richhh> anyone good with pattern recognition?
[23:41] <stephanb> hi, i have a problem with audacious, i can't add any folders to my playlist, files work fine but no folders... any ideas?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> !anyone | Richhh
[23:42] <Richhh> for 1-nn classifiers, what does the "leave one out protocol" do?
[23:42] <sybiam> Jordan_U: problem is that osx has a different boot loader  (Not BIOS) while possibly rEFIt will boot grub which will boot ubuntu
[23:42] <MonkeyDust> stephanb  i use audacious, click on on a music and select 'open with audacious' -- you can then export the playlist as foo.audpl
[23:43] <quince> sybiam: you can also boot over the network, but you'll probably find that more of a pain.  I think there are websites that provide network boot as a service for free, if you trust that...
[23:43] <quince> sybiam: it's called PXE boot
[23:43] <MonkeyDust> stephanb  correction : i use audacious, click on on a music folder and select 'open with audacious' -- you can then export the playlist as foo.audpl
[23:43] <sybiam> quince: how do you boot from network with a mac?
[23:43] <stephanb> MonkeyDust: tried that, but didnt work, i just get an empty playlist
[23:44] <Jordan_U> sybiam: Intel macs have a BIOS implementation as well, so you should still be fine (their BIOS implementation doesn't work with USB on many of their machines, but does work fine with internal drives).
[23:44] <MonkeyDust> stephanb  weird, that's how i do it, over ssh, even
[23:44] <quince> sybiam: if you have to ask, you'll probably find it way, way easier to take the hard disk out (or use a web site that provides PXE boot from a remote server -- like netboot.me)
[23:44] <stephanb> MonkeyDust: strange... i'll try a restart...
[23:44] <sybiam> I'll take the drive out
[23:46] <quince> sybiam: you have another PC (not the mac) to put the hard disk in, right?
[23:46] <quince> sybiam: oh, sorry, this is a mac you're installing ubuntu on?
[23:46] <sybiam> yes
[23:47] <sybiam> I was thinking… will installing from a PC using a PC iso for a macbook will work
[23:47] <quince> OK, sorry.  I'm pretty clueless there, I'm afraid.
[23:48] <stephanb> MonkeyDust: still doesn't work, what version do you use?
[23:48] <quince> if you're willing to use something like netboot.in, that should work
[23:48] <sybiam> I'll check that still can't believe how hard it is
[23:49] <sybiam> I can't even install windows because the dvd drive is broken
[23:50] <stephanb> hm still doesn't work... any good gtk alternatives for audacious? preferably ones where i can browse the filesystem and not only a music library
[23:50] <quince> hmm, actually, googling brings up a hit that suggests that at least some macs can't pxe boot.  Amazing.
[23:51] <quince> apple has to reinvent every little thing, grr
[23:51] <sybiam> quince: amazing yeah i've been knocking my head about that… I need to get some work programming microchips and I can't do that on osx
[23:52] <Netham45> So, I've got an ubuntu server 12.10 VM running inside Hyper-V that I'm trying to start 3 X servers on. Every time I start an X server or change VTs I see one of four cores spike up to 100% for about 5 minutes bfore it changes/loads, does anyone know what might be causing that?
[23:53] <sybiam> it's terribly frustrating but at least it's just my work computer so I didn't spend a penny on that piece of aluminum
[23:55] <Netham45> error setting MTRR (base = 0xf8000000, size = 0x00400000, type = 1) Invalid argument (22)
[23:55] <Netham45> "
[23:55] <quince> stephanb: rhythmbox?
[23:55] <Netham45> bah, but that's the only thing I can see at all.
[23:55] <stephanb> quince: i dont think you can browse your fileystem with rythmbox
[23:56] <satwood> quince: can you tell what are the typical changes from (paths, or anything more) ?
[23:58] <quince> satwood: no, sorry
[23:58] <satwood> ok
[23:58] <satwood> guys, can anyone please tell if the same conf files will work between debian and ubuntu ?
[23:59] <brontosaurusrex> stephanb: browsing with your file manager and the drag/droping to your player is what you want?
[23:59] <stephanb> brontosaurusrex: yeah, that or some way within the program to browse the filesystem, but it seems that audacious, which was my first choise cant to that with files from a samba share