[00:16] <killermach> how come I annot move a window up on the screen so the title bar goes off the screen?
[00:17] <killermach> I have I window that I sized about 3 screens tall, now I need to see the bottom
[00:17] <gameplayer> epimeth: i just installed xine-ui and it solved my problem...
[00:18] <gameplayer> it's a bit strange...
[00:19] <killermach> typically you can click the border and mouse drag the window up no issues.. but kubuntu seems to have broken this feature that I"ve used for over a decade
[00:19] <maybeway36> killermach? maybe it's kwin
[00:19] <maybeway36> killermach: do you have metacity or somnething?
[00:19] <maybeway36> also
[00:19] <killermach> I've only ever used KDE since 1999
[00:20] <su-hoens`rZ> anyone know how to install gcc-2.95 on kubuntu?
[00:20] <maybeway36> and it only stopped working now?
[00:20] <maybeway36> strange
[00:20] <jussi01> !info gcc
[00:20] <ubotu> gcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.59ubuntu2)): The GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.2-9ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[00:20] <killermach> only noticed it not working since I moved from Mandrake to kubuntu
[00:20] <maybeway36> killermach: not working in debian lenny either it seems
[00:21] <su-hoens`rZ> jussi01 that helps me how?
[00:21] <jussi01> su-hoens`rZ: I was checking version...
[00:21] <jussi01> !info gcc-2.95
[00:21] <ubotu> gcc-2.95 (source: gcc-2.95 (2.95.4.ds15-24)): The GNU C compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.95.4-24 (gutsy), package size 926 kB, installed size 2344 kB
[00:22] <jussi01> su-hoens`rZ: sudo aptitude install gcc-2.95
[00:22] <killermach> maybeway36: hmm.. I'll have to go ask in #kde maybe there is an option I can turn back on
[00:22] <su-hoens`rZ> jussi01 doesn't work
[00:22] <maybeway36> ok
[00:22] <killermach> maybeway36:  this deficiancy is one that drove me away from MS windows
[00:24] <jussi01> su-hoens`rZ: what error does that give then?
[00:24] <su-hoens`rZ> No candidate version found for gcc-2.95
[00:24] <ere4si> tried pressing alt then left click and hold and slide mouse up screen killermach ?
[00:25] <killermach> ere4si: that's it  alt-drag
[00:25] <ere4si> :)
[00:25] <jussi01> su-hoens`rZ: do you have the universe repo enabled?
[00:26] <su-hoens`rZ> jussi01 i believe so, it's not commented out in the list
[00:26] <jussi01> su-hoens`rZ: it works here..
[00:27] <su-hoens`rZ> jussi01 hmm
[00:27] <jussi01> su-hoens`rZ: tried updating?
[00:27] <su-hoens`rZ> jussi01 maybe cause i'm on 64 bit?
[00:27] <su-hoens`rZ> jussi01 yeah
[00:28] <jussi01> su-hoens`rZ: not sure then
[00:29] <su-hoens`rZ> jussi01 what repositories are you using?
[00:30] <jussi01> su-hoens`rZ: all standard repos, plus medibuntu
[00:30] <jussi01> su-hoens`rZ: could you pastebin your sources.list?
[00:32] <su-hoens`rZ> jussi01 http://pastebin.com/m24c62255
[00:33] <jussi01> !info gcc-2.95 feisty
[00:33] <ubotu> gcc-2.95 (source: gcc-2.95 (2.95.4.ds15-24)): The GNU C compiler. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.95.4-24 (feisty), package size 926 kB, installed size 2344 kB
[00:34] <blizzzek> gn8
[00:36] <jussi01> su-hoens`rZ: Im not sure about this one. I would 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade' one more time, but no idea why its not there for you
[00:37] <Farnesk> trying to reinstall kubuntu 7.10 i am going from 64bit to 32bit and everything works fine untill i update it for the first time it tells me that some updates did not install properly i restart my comp and i cant even get to the login screen no text comes up and ive let it sit there for 30min any ideas?
[00:46] <FrauHansen> does anyone know why kde-look.org, gnome-look.org and kde-apps.org are down?
[00:48] <jussi01> no idea, could be cause of the cable breakage in the med...
[00:49] <Tann> My keyboard is having problems. It won't work when I am in KDE, but it will work when I an in gnome
[00:50] <Tann> My keyboard is having problems. It won't work when I am in KDE, but it will work when I an in gnome. is there a way to fix that?
[00:50] <Dr_willis> Farnesk,   can you get into the console with the rescue mode?
[00:50] <Dr_willis> Tann,  thats very odd.
[00:51] <Dr_willis> Tann,  try some other window manager? Like icewm, or xfce see if it works there? Does it work in the KDM login screen?
[00:51] <xen_> Hey there i cant seem to browse the net with konquerer, but i can with firefox, is there some setting i should be enabling to browse the www with konqurer?
[00:51] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis: slow keys
[00:51] <xen_> btw ff has crashed and it wont start again so i dont actually have a working browser atm
[00:51] <Tann> Dr_willis: What is really odd is that It was working and a few moments later, it wasn't I restarted my computer and it still didn't work.
[00:51] <jussi01> xen_: try killing the ff processes
[00:52] <xen_> no, its not running
[00:52] <Tann> Dr_willis: I don't use KDM as my default WM
[00:52] <xen_> the process or anything
[00:52] <xen_> its just dead lol
[00:52] <xen_> but, im not worried about that, i just would like to use konquer, but it wont connect to the net :S
[00:53] <xen_> anyone? :S
[00:54] <xen_> is there something i should be enabling in Konqurer to browse?
[00:54] <Dr_willis> Not that i know of.
[00:54] <Dr_willis> so http://google.com just does what exactly?
[00:55] <xen_> An error occurred while loading http://google.com:
[00:55] <xen_> Could not connect to host http://google.com/.
[00:56] <Dr_willis> try http://localhost
[00:56] <Dr_willis> :) sounds almost like a proxy setting is set.
[00:56] <nosrednaekim> xen_: you uing knetworkmanager?
[00:57] <Tann> Dr_willis: I don't use KDM as my default WM
[00:57] <intelikey> this old p3 system boots in less than 5 seconds.  only 22 processes and 17 lines of startup dialog http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d79ab70a0    (i consider that a "nice clean system startup")
[00:57] <intelikey> Tann what do you need ?
[00:57] <Dr_willis> Tann,  kdm isent a wm ;) its a login manager.     Does the keybaord work in the console?   alt-ctrl-f1 ?
[00:58] <xen_> norsednaekim sorry im using a wireless adapter, i can use the internet fine with ff, but ff is dead i dont want to use ff anyhow
[00:58] <intelikey> Dr_willis he may need to reset the keyboard    alt+sysRQ+r
[00:58] <xen_> norsednaekim not using knetworkmanager btw
[00:58] <intelikey> Dr_willis sorry if that's off base.  i just got here.
[00:59] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  im vague on his exact issues also. keyboard dont work in kde, but it does in gnome is the Gist of it all.
[01:00] <intelikey> Dr_willis hmmm ok that sounds like a misconfigured kde i18  or something   possably need to set his language again ?
[01:00] <xen_> Dr_willis i tried the localhost, but it says it cant connect to that either
[01:00] <xen_> i have konquere set to connect to net directly
[01:01] <xen_> and am not using a proxy
[01:01] <xen_> but still doesnt connect :S
[01:01] <Dr_willis> try making a new user. see if it works for them.
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> xen_: ok
[01:02] <Dr_willis> I dont use Konqueror as a web browser. So cant really say what may be wrong.
[01:02] <intelikey> i have see that issue described in here before xen_   you can irc from the box but not browse ?     there should be something on the forums about that
[01:02] <xen_> yup
[01:02] <xen_> one problem, i dont have a working browser lol
[01:02] <xen_> my system crashed earlier on today, ever since that firefox doesnt work anymore
[01:03] <xen_> and theres no firefox process to kill either
[01:03] <intelikey> xen_ ummm well maybe one of us can find you a url and you can wget the page and read it locally
[01:03] <xen_> yup, tyvm
[01:03] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install opera
[01:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:03] <Dr_willis> then crash it!
[01:03] <xen_> lol
[01:03] <xen_> seems to be my luck today
[01:03] <xen_> i dont like opera so much though, i cant find a good adblock plugin or anything
[01:03] <xen_> though i havent really had a good look as yet
[01:04] <|Tann|> Dr_willis: Yes, the keyboard works in the terminal
[01:04] <Dr_willis> i use so many extensions for firefox :) i cant stand any other browsers
[01:04] <xen_> yeah i love firefox, but it just doesnt work anymore :S
[01:04] <xen_> even after reinstalling it and everything
[01:04] <xen_> no crash log about it either :S
[01:04] <Dr_willis> |Tann|,  -->  <intelikey>  that sounds like a misconfigured kde i18  or something   possably need to set his language again ?
[01:05] <|Tann|> Dr_willis: How would I go about doing that?
[01:05] <Dr_willis> no idea :) I just use english
[01:06] <Dr_willis> I would guess in the settings menu, some keyboard setting tool.
[01:06] <mixed> how can i update to gutsy gibbon from feisty?
[01:06] <Dr_willis> system settings -> region/language  perhaps |Tann|
[01:07] <Dr_willis> !update | mixed
[01:07] <ubotu> mixed: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:07] <mixed> Dr. Willis, thank you
[01:08] <|Tann|> Dr_willis: k
[01:08] <Dr_willis> Upgrading to  The Next release right now. :) lets see how Hardy does.  heh
[01:08] <mixed> Dr. Willis, how do I update feisty using command line?
[01:09] <Dr_willis> that guide disent say so? I just ran update-manager -d  here.
[01:09] <Dr_willis> Which i think is the 'proper' way.   apt-get dist-update  i think MAY not get all the stuff correctly
[01:09] <Dr_willis> I rarely upgrade,  :)  i normally do clean reinstalls.
[01:09] <mixed> Dr. Willis, before I update to gutsy gibbon feisty needs to be updated.  How do I update feisty?
[01:10] <mixed> Dr. Willis, I have a spanking brand new installation of feisty, I just installed it a few days ago, didnt realized it was so old
[01:10] <xen_> i hate to sound like a critic, but ubuntu has really gota do something about smoothing out upgrades, ive never been able to succesfully upgrade without problems
[01:11] <Dr_willis> Given the total disaster ive seen with windows and their upgrades...... :)
[01:11] <Dr_willis> Of course with windows a reinstall is a 'fix' for broken systems. So  its all relative.
[01:11] <Dr_willis> Often its the users installing 3rd party apps, or using tools like envy/automatix/so forth that cause the upgrade issues.
[01:12] <mixed> correct!  and the things that are wrong with redmond isn't a defficiency, it's a  "feature"
[01:12] <Dr_willis> I always do a clean reinstall - since that way i know what the other 'users' are starting with - from a tech support point of view
[01:12] <mixed> Dr. Willis, sorry for all the noob questions, I am still not familiar with the utilities in ubuntu, I used to use SuSE
[01:12] <xen_> yeah but i mean c'mon, how many people have 3rd party apps, just about everyone i know, in otherwords, you cant upgrade without a problem
[01:13] <Tann> Dr_willis: That didn't work
[01:13] <Dr_willis> most of the upgrade issues ive seen are  from the nvidia/ati , and wireless, and other drivers also.
[01:14] <Dr_willis> every 6 mo with a new release the channel is full of upgrade-issues :) then it calms down.
[01:18] <intelikey> xen_ google hates me.   i did look for that issue and an easy fix   no can find.  but i'm sure that someone here or in #ubuntu can point you to one.       and yes if you use linux then you have all third party apps or a third party kernel    one of the two.
[01:20] <intelikey> i guess i posted that just a little too late
[01:24] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Update manager - 'there are 995 packages to be upgraded' :)   Hardy here I come!  - Lucky this is a test pc.
[01:25] <mixed> !mp3
[01:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:38] <bfrog> ok
[01:38] <bfrog> I installed valgrind-callgrind, but there's no callgrind binary
[01:38] <stunatra> Anyone know of a program to edit .avi files?
[01:39] <jussi01> !info kdenlive | stunatra
[01:39] <ubotu> stunatra: kdenlive (source: kdenlive): A Non-Linear Video Editing Suite for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0.0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 648 kB, installed size 1992 kB
[01:39] <bfrog> nm
[01:40] <stunatra> Thanks jussi01
[01:40] <jussi01> :)
[01:40] <bfrog> valgrind --tool=callgrind, of course the kcachegrind docs are probably old
[01:56] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know if it's possible to use video chat with aim in kopete?
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> secleinteer: I was not awareAIM HAD video chate
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> AFAIK, it is not
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> MSN video chat works though
[01:58] <secleinteer> nosrednaekim: it does
[01:58] <secleinteer> but i guess msn would work
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> secleinteer: ask in #kopete
[01:59] <secleinteer> nosrednaekim: i asked there too ;p
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> ok :)
[01:59] <adz21c> in kde3 yes u should be able to
[01:59] <adz21c> well, web cam, not audio
[02:02] <huhlig> question, I just tossed on a copy of kubuntu 8 alpha 4
[02:02] <huhlig> is there a known bug in the libpython
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> huhlig: #ubuntu+1
[02:03] <huhlig> ahh thank you
[02:10] <hexch> can somebody help, my problem is that my kde is laggy...?
[02:13] <NickPresta> hexch, what are you system specs?
[02:14] <hexch> you mean hw?
[02:14] <NickPresta> hexch, yeah. Processor, graphics card, RAM, etc
[02:15] <hexch> amd x2 6000+, 3gb ram, nvidia 8600gt
[02:15] <NickPresta> hexch, it definitely should not be laggy. It should be smooth. Has this always been an issue or just recently?
[02:16] <hexch> well i used ubuntu before worked fine, just gut kubuntu this week
[02:16] <intelikey> did i hear that kde4 with some affects is always laggy ?
[02:16] <NickPresta> hexch, which nvidia driver are you using?
[02:17] <hexch> let me check
[02:18] <hexch> nvidia
[02:18] <NickPresta> hexch, so the proprietary nvidia driver?
[02:18] <hexch> well the system automaticly loaded the driver
[02:18] <internat85> Hi, with kde, how do i setup vnc so that i can connect to the existing session?
[02:18] <hexch> what should I change it to ?
[02:19] <GerrySly> hey guys, how would I check information like if any windows managing system is installed (kde, gnome)
[02:19] <NickPresta> hexch, well, the 'nvidia' driver should be working well. However, I don't think the system automatically installed it for you (due to licensing restrictions). What does: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf output?
[02:20] <GerrySly> I am running a server and I want to VNC into it, but I dunno if it has KDE or Gnome installed
[02:20] <hexch>  Driver          "kbd"
[02:20] <hexch>         Driver          "mouse"
[02:20] <hexch>         Driver          "wacom"
[02:20] <hexch>         Driver          "wacom"
[02:20] <hexch>         Driver          "wacom"
[02:20] <hexch>         Driver          "nvidia"
[02:20] <Dragnslcr> internat85- K Menu -> Internet -> Krfb -> Configure -> Allow Uninvited Connections
[02:21] <Dragnslcr> internat85- though you way want to also look into using a VNC server that has SSL support
[02:21] <NickPresta> hexch, okay. Fair enough. That is rather strange that things are laggy.
[02:21] <internat85> does it always run on display 0?
[02:21] <yao_ziyuan> what are console ways to change screen resolution?
[02:21] <Dragnslcr> internat85- if you enable it from the Krfb settings, yeah
[02:21] <hexch> I think so to :(
[02:22] <NickPresta> hexch, you can try disabling effects like transparency, etc, if they are turned on.
[02:23] <yao_ziyuan> Hardy 4 has a bug in changing screen resolution. i have to use a console way
[02:23] <yao_ziyuan> like XFdrake?
[02:23] <NickPresta> yao_ziyuan, hardy support in #ubuntu+1
[02:23] <yao_ziyuan> i know
[02:23] <hexch> ok i try that
[02:23] <Dr_willis> thres a dpkg-reconfigure SOMTHING command
[02:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:23] <Dr_willis> or you an manyally edit the xorg.conf
[02:23] <yao_ziyuan> but this is a general question: how to change screen resolution in console?
[02:23] <NickPresta> You can try manually editing your xorg.conf or you can do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:23] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[02:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:24] <yao_ziyuan> thx
[02:34] <mixed> what's the app that I can use to burn gutsy-gibbon image to a CD and make it bootable?
[02:34] <NickPresta> mixed, k3b can burn an ISO image
[02:35] <mixed> k3b works on gnome as well, right?  im going to have to install it
[02:36] <NickPresta> mixed, if you need support for Ubuntu, ask in #ubuntu. This is for Kubuntu and KDE
[02:37] <mixed> NickPresta, sorry, I usually use kubuntu, I installed feisty in this lappie from an old CD I thought had kubuntu
[02:38] <NickPresta> mixed, ah okay. gnomebaker is for the GNOME desktop.
[02:39] <mixed> NickPresta, I'm going to reinstall gutsy then ubuntustudio and then off course kubuntu
[03:02] <sparr_> what should i use to watch a dvd?
[03:03] <Dr_willis> I tend to use vlc
[03:03] <Dr_willis> but thers other players
[03:03] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[03:03] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:04] <sparr_> !Medibunto
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about medibunto - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <sparr_> !Medibuntu
[03:04] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[03:04] <intelikey> !players
[03:04] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[03:05] <sparr_> ugh @ drm
[03:05] <intelikey> yeah.
[03:05] <sparr_> yay @ mpaa for making it harder to play a legit disc than to download a rip
[03:05] <intelikey> drm is evil
[03:05] <val0> how do you reconfigure X from console (command?)
[03:06] <sparr_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:06] <NickPresta> val0, sudo dpkg-reconfig xserver-xorg
[03:06] <intelikey> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:06] <NickPresta> s/reconfig/reconfigure
[03:06] <intelikey> quick draw beet me to the typo....
[03:06] <NickPresta> heh
[03:06] <intelikey> :)
[03:06] <sparr_> i win either way :-p
[03:07] <intelikey> win ?    was it a contest ?
[03:07] <sparr_> always
[03:07]  * intelikey packs up his dolls and goes home.....
[03:07] <sparr_> if only the people with the answers to MY questions felt the same way  :)
[03:08] <intelikey> sparr_ thought the doctor did answer you.... ?
[03:09] <Dr_willis> Actually i get better dvd playback with linux's  'may not be legal' methods then legit dvd player software. :)
[03:09] <Dr_willis> I can skip those Idiotic Comercials at the start of these dvds
[03:09] <sparr_> i mean in general.  thank you Dr_willis
[03:09] <sparr_> sure, but i have to find and install libdvdcss2
[03:09] <sparr_> this is more work than ive done to install anything in linux in at least a year
[03:09] <Dr_willis> enable the medibuntu repo
[03:09] <Dr_willis> !medibuntu
[03:09] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[03:10] <sparr_> which is not to say that its much work...  debian just sets the bar so low  :)
[03:10] <intelikey> sparr_ well i called the !players infonode for you.   and i also agree with Dr_willis,  i use vlc
[03:10] <Janet1> hi all
[03:10] <Janet1> take a look
[03:10] <Janet1> exotics.heavenforum.com :)
[03:10] <Janet1> bye
[03:10] <sparr_> mplayer is generally my player of choice
[03:10] <Dr_willis> Spamm Queen. :)
[03:11] <intelikey> that's not the same ip as all the other times is it ?
[03:11] <intelikey> why can't the ircops kline that ?
[03:12] <intelikey> never mind, it's a tor ip.
[03:12] <Dr_willis> I though they had tor blocked.
[03:13] <intelikey> inetnum:        <IP_ADDRESS> - <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:13] <intelikey> netname:        TurkTelekom
[03:14] <Darkrift412> anyone know if 7.10 has built in drivers for the bcm43xx wifi card?
[03:15] <val0> how do you get back to the kde desktop from command line after console login?
[03:15] <Darkrift412> try "X"
[03:15] <sparr_> val0: how did you get to a console login?
[03:15] <Darkrift412> upper case, i believe
[03:15] <val0> sparr_: i installed the Nvidia driver, and now can't get back in :D
[03:16] <Darkrift412> lol
[03:16] <sparr_> :(
[03:16] <Darkrift412> i remember that
[03:16] <intelikey> if it was me.  i'd nail down the b class, kline<EMAIL_ADDRESS>  however, i do realize that that's probably not an option for the ircops here.    "niceness has it's drawbacks"
[03:16] <sparr_> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[03:16] <val0> yep, :`(
[03:16] <AMcBain> If dolphin says "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" what does that mean? I'm trying to connect my Seagate FreeAgent drive (and it has nothing on it except files I put there, so no "autoload" softare)
[03:16] <Darkrift412> nvidia screwes up linux every time
[03:16] <sparr_> im not in a gaming mood this month, so i havent had to deal with nvidia lately...  always dread it
[03:17] <Darkrift412> took me weeks to get kubuntu setup on my laptop.... ran nice for like 6 months then my wife was on it, and wifi died
[03:17] <Darkrift412> sent it in, they replaced mobo, wifi, kb and hd to fix it...... now im stuck with vista again
[03:18] <Darkrift412> and im afraid to start back into that hellish crap to get kubuntu back on here
[03:18] <AMcBain> Or at the very least, can anyone direct me to a channel than can help with the drive problem? It would be very bad for me to redo all the partitions and start over not knowing whether Kubuntu can even read my backup ...
[03:18] <intelikey> did they replace the os as well ?   or was that your doing ?
[03:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> i would really like some empirical evidence for "nvidia screws up linux every time"
[03:18] <Darkrift412> what do you mean
[03:18] <Darkrift412> it comes with vista
[03:18] <Dragnslcr> nVidia hasn't screwed up my system yet
[03:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> because, you know, it really sounds like you're talking out of your rear end with that statement
[03:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> Dragnslcr: nor mine
[03:19] <Darkrift412> oh, sorry, i was talking out of my ass
[03:19] <intelikey> Darkrift412 oh yeah you did mention "HD" sorry i overlooked that one.
[03:19] <Darkrift412> please excuse me
[03:19] <val0> X only started "X" :( kdm doesn't do anything
[03:19] <Darkrift412> it will never happen again comment nazi's
[03:19] <AMcBain> ugh.
[03:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> just remember that absolute statements generally aren't
[03:20] <Darkrift412> ooooh, you just made one
[03:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> and just because *you* have an issue with it doesn't mean it's "teh sux0rz"
[03:20] <o_> evenin' folks, if I were looking to dl some torrents, what program do you guru's recommend?  for ubuntu..
[03:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> no i didn't.  i said "generally"
[03:20] <Darkrift412> you are generalizing
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> o_- KTorrent worked well for me when I used it
[03:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> but i'm not stating it as absolute truth
[03:21] <o_> ktorrent?..thanks
[03:21]  * Darkrift412 writes a script to add -generally to the end of every sentance he types so as to not piss off the comment nazi's again
[03:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> ktorrent is your best bet for a qt-based client
[03:21] <Daisuke_Laptop> Darkrift412: stop trolling
[03:21] <o_> thats 2 for ktorrent :) TY
[03:22] <Dr_willis> I use ktorrent all the time.
[03:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> that's three :)
[03:22] <o_> 3..!
[03:22] <NickPresta> o_, make that 3 for KTorrent. *Is using it right now*
[03:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> four!
[03:22] <Dr_willis> wine utorrent.exe
[03:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:22] <intelikey> Darkrift412 careful.  you'll get the language nazi's after you too...
[03:22] <Darkrift412> i use ktorrent all the time - generally
[03:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> Darkrift412: again, stop trolling.
[03:22] <o_> :)
[03:22] <o_> thanks guys..
[03:23] <o_> I'll prolly be back :P
[03:23] <o_> pretty new at this :)
[03:23] <Darkrift412> how about if you arent offering usefull help, you just dont reply?
[03:23] <Darkrift412> i never once specifically directed anything towards you
[03:23] <Daisuke_Laptop> you should really learn to heed your own advice.
[03:23] <NickPresta> !coc | Hey guys
[03:23] <ubotu> Hey guys: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[03:23] <NickPresta> :)
[03:23] <intelikey> how about if you don't have a ubuntu help question....    never mind.
[03:24] <Darkrift412> i did have a question
[03:24] <Darkrift412> never got a reply
[03:24] <Darkrift412> someone got me stuck on another topic
[03:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay, what was the question?
[03:24] <Darkrift412> over a simple comment that i made without sitting for 2 minutes thinking about it first
[03:24] <Darkrift412> anyone know if 7.10 has built in drivers for the bcm43xx wifi card?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> one normally uses the fwcutter tools for the bcm cards to download the proper files/drivers
[03:25] <Darkrift412> thats what i was afraid of
[03:25] <NickPresta> Darkrift412, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[03:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> ouch...  afaik, broadcom support is still not built in, *but* the...  what the good doctor said
[03:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> is it a mini-pci wifi card?
[03:25] <Darkrift412> yup
[03:26] <Darkrift412> dell card in a compaq laptop
[03:26] <Dr_willis> Some of the cards require different drivers also. depending on the exact chipset
[03:26] <Darkrift412> with a broadcom chipset....
[03:26] <Dr_willis> broadcom makes a lot of chipsets.
[03:26] <Darkrift412> i wonder if gateway designed the carbon that the chipset is made out of :S
[03:27] <Darkrift412> i remember a 2-3 week fight to get my wifi working last time
[03:27] <Darkrift412> without wifi, my internet consists of me sitting behind my daughters dresser on the floor with my laptop trying to download drivers and other tools for hours at a time
[03:27] <intelikey> what's an opensource wifi chip ?        or are there any?
[03:27] <Dr_willis> With the release of gutsy my wireless in my laptop started working fine. :)  had a friend with a new hp 2000?? somthinglaptop - we had to isntall the latest wireless stuff for his to work
[03:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> ralink is probably the closest
[03:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> intel has great support as well
[03:28] <NickPresta> ralink is the best, by far
[03:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> atheros isn't as great, but isn't bad by any means
[03:28] <intelikey> ralink    k.
[03:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> i *found* a mini-pci g card on newegg for $32
[03:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> however, i don't know the chipset...  yet
[03:28] <Darkrift412> hrmmmmm
[03:29] <Darkrift412> im about to get a belkin usb stick wifi card and try that out
[03:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> oooh
[03:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's atheros
[03:29] <Darkrift412> or better yet, illl look into those dlink media center wireless hubs
[03:29] <Daisuke_Laptop> madwifi to the rescue!
[03:30] <huhlig> wow
[03:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> 'ello huhlig
[03:31] <AMcBain> Can I please get some help on my ext hdd + dolphin issue? I'm trying to start my whole PC over, but that's kinda hard when your intended main OS when you are done can't even read your back up hdd now!
[03:31] <huhlig> I just tried both hardy and gutsy and neither work
[03:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> hardy isn't for general use yet
[03:31] <NickPresta> !doesn't work | huhlig
[03:31] <ubotu> huhlig: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[03:32] <huhlig> ubotu, ok, when it switched graphics mode the screen goes black and never comes back
[03:32] <huhlig> switching to a console doesnt work
[03:32] <NickPresta> huhlig, did you try booting in safe graphics mode?
[03:32] <huhlig> yep
[03:32] <huhlig> same black screen
[03:32] <huhlig> safe mode worked in hardy
[03:32] <NickPresta> huhlig, which graphics card?
[03:33] <huhlig> nvidia FX 360M
[03:33] <huhlig> quadra
[03:34] <huhlig> NickPresta, any ideas?
[03:35] <AMcBain> Kubuntu: Dolphin: "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000": Seagate FreeAgent Drive (external hardrive). How much simpler can I make it!?
[03:36] <AMcBain> I just want to be able to access my data1
[03:36] <NickPresta> the 100.14.23 nvidia display driver supports the Quadro FX 360M. That was released back in October 2007. I'm not sure how to go about fixing the LiveCD issue but if you can install the system in "safe graphics mode" and then install the proprietary nvidia driver, things should be fine
[03:37] <Darkrift412> odd that console doesnt work though
[03:37] <Darkrift412> console shouldnt care about your display drivers
[03:37] <NickPresta> again, he just said "Doesn't work". I don't know what that means :)
[03:39] <huhlig> ok, I finally got myself to a console
[03:39] <Dr_willis> AMcBain,  install the ntfs-config tool, run it. check  the enable check boxs  - worked for me.
[03:39] <huhlig> what copmmand do I need for console installation
[03:39] <huhlig> like the old debian installer
[03:41] <AMcBain> Dr_willis: but Kubuntu can read my other NTFS partition that is already on the PC ... so why not an external HDD with NTFS?
[03:41] <intelikey> you need the alternate install cd
[03:41] <intelikey> huhlig the live cd has no text based install
[03:43] <doobeh> Hmm, I just resized my monitor down to 800x600, and now I'm trying to put it back up to normal, but the Okay/Apply button is hidden behind the bottom bar
[03:44] <AMcBain> Dr_Willis: I got it by hand, creating the folder I wanted it to be on /dev and then mounting it.
[03:44] <doobeh> anyway to... hide the bottom bar temporarly so I can change the res ? :)
[03:44] <AMcBain> But it was rather silly that I even had to do that.
[03:44] <ubuntu> hello
[03:44] <intelikey> so move the window
[03:44] <intelikey> alt+click drag
[03:45] <ubuntu> i need help installing kubuntu 7.10
[03:45] <Darkrift412> doobeh see if you can drag the window up and resize it from the bottom, normally works for me
[03:45] <ubuntu> i am in the prepare partitions of the install process
[03:45] <doobeh> alt-drag worked, thanks
[03:45] <ubuntu> and i have already setup an ext3 and swap partition
[03:46] <ubuntu> i am able to select the ext3 partition but cant select the swap partition
[03:46] <Darkrift412> select it for what
[03:47] <ubuntu> so that i can set it as the swap
[03:47] <Darkrift412> oh :S
[03:47] <ubuntu> will kubuntu automatiocally do that?
[03:47] <Darkrift412> is it labeled swap?'
[03:47] <ubuntu> yes
[03:47] <Darkrift412> then yes
[03:47] <ubuntu> and i want it to be used as swap
[03:47] <ubuntu> ok
[03:48] <Darkrift412> i mean, not a drive label
[03:48] <Darkrift412> but in the partitioning util, does it say swap
[03:48] <ubuntu> yes in the "Type" coloumn
[03:48] <Darkrift412> i havent used the 7.10 installer yet, but in the other versions, thats how it worked
[03:48] <Darkrift412> then you should be good
[03:48] <Darkrift412> i dotn believe it will let you go forward without a swap partition setup properly
[03:49] <ubuntu> ok thankyou i am continuing with the install :-)
[03:49] <Darkrift412> can you install stuff on the live cd?
[03:50] <ubuntu> i dont think so the changes will be lost when you reboot
 i dotn believe it will let you go forward without a swap partition setup properly <<< sorry i can't say about 7.10 but earlier ubiquities will let you.
[03:51] <intelikey> Darkrift412 yes you can install on the live CD if you have the ram for it
[03:51] <Darkrift412> i can deal with that, but i just want to test run the bcm43xx driver installation from a live cd before killing my windows partition
[03:51] <Darkrift412> my problem would be getting the driver installers and stuff to the live cd :S
[03:51] <Darkrift412> unless the livecd can read ntfs nativly
[03:52]  * intelikey doesn't use swap nor partitions.
[03:52] <Dr_willis> live cd has ntfs read support.
[03:53] <Darkrift412> nice
[03:53] <Darkrift412> ok, how about this.... anyone know how i would find my wifi's chipset in vista?
[03:54] <tyson_> Darkrift412: is it a laptop?
[03:54] <Darkrift412> yes
[03:54] <tyson_> u know the model number?
[03:54] <Darkrift412> its a bcm43xx, but i need the specific version
[03:54] <tyson_> ok
[03:54] <tyson_> go to the manufacturer's site
[03:54] <Dr_willis> i would google for that exact make/model laptop and linux.
[03:54] <Darkrift412> compaq v6210us
[03:54] <tyson_> they should list it
[03:54] <intelikey> Darkrift412 maybe  ##windows
[03:54] <Darkrift412> i have, but i find lots of useless/wrong info
[03:55] <tyson_> then download a program called everest home (its free)
[03:55] <tyson_> it will tell you also
[03:55] <Darkrift412> nice
[03:55] <tyson_> i expect it will be broadcom or intel
[03:55] <tyson_> ...and i would think that kubuntu will support that
[03:56] <Darkrift412> i know its broadcom 43xx
[03:58] <Darkrift412> PCI/AGP 14E4-4311: Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN [NoDB]
[03:58] <Darkrift412> does that mean its the 4311?
[03:58] <tyson_> most likely
[03:59] <o_> evenin' folks.. trying to install ktorrent. synaptic returning an error
[03:59] <Romina> hi
[04:00] <Romina> something terrible happened,  please help me
[04:00] <o_> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.20-16-386_2.6.20-16.33_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:00] <o_> I'm lost??
[04:01] <Romina> we had a power outage  (electricity failure)  WHILE  I was running a DIST-UPGRADE
[04:01] <Romina> so the PC crashed down since it got no electricity
[04:01] <tyson_> o: does it give the same error when you use 'add/remove/ programs?
[04:01] <Romina> what shall I do?
[04:01] <Romina> I used  "adept_manager",  the GUI  by the way
[04:02] <Romina> the cut came when the  dist upgrade tool was already getting packages
[04:02] <o_> add remove in terminal?
[04:03] <Romina> o_, me?
[04:03] <tyson_> o: in the k menu
[04:03] <tyson_> o: above help
[04:03] <o_> no romina..sorry
[04:04] <Romina> k
[04:04] <tyson_> can anyone recommend amarok alternatives?
[04:04] <tyson_> (good ones)
[04:04] <mkquist> o_: have you tried sudo apt-get update and try it again?
[04:05] <Darkrift412> wow, there is a broadcomm wifi channel on this network
[04:05] <Darkrift412> lol
[04:05] <mkquist> tyson_: rhythmbox?
[04:05] <Darkrift412> #bcm-users incase anyone didnt knwo
[04:05] <tyson_> thanx
[04:06] <hgarcia> has anyone used kaffine to play dvd's?
[04:06] <tyson_> another thing. i like using joost and tvuplayer in windows. is there linux alternatives?
[04:06] <intelikey> tyson_ sox is an alternative.    but you wont want that.
[04:06] <o_> tyson ..found it..brb :p
[04:06] <todo> smplayer,vlc
[04:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> mkquist: he said good :P
[04:07] <mkquist> Daisuke_Laptop: hey, i like it... =(
[04:07] <intelikey> tyson_ vlc
[04:07] <intelikey> xmms
[04:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> -xmms +audacious
[04:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> mkquist: it really isn't a bad piece of software
[04:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> i just find it unbearably ugly :(
[04:08] <tyson_> vlc? does that play tv channels?
[04:08] <Darkrift412> i doubt there is a linux joost
[04:08] <Darkrift412> its fairly new still
[04:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> joost?
[04:08] <Darkrift412> its an internet tv program for windows
[04:08] <Darkrift412> was (might still be) invite only
[04:08] <todo> vlc 0.9.0
[04:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah, neat
[04:08] <Darkrift412> lets you watch certain tv channels/movies etc
[04:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> could try running it in wine :D
[04:09] <Darkrift412> was kinda cool, but liek i said, it was new, so there werent many channels when i last used it (6+ months ago)
[04:09] <tyson_> Daisuke_: good idea
[04:10] <Darkrift412> wine is getting pretty damned awesome
[04:10] <tyson_> joost is ok, but i like tvu player
[04:10] <Darkrift412> it seems to run anythign ive thrown at it fairly well
[04:10] <Darkrift412> mirc, wow and lots more
[04:10] <sayers> Does hardy haron release 4 have KDE4 yet?
[04:10] <Darkrift412> finally ditched mirc and started learning perl to replace it with xchat
[04:10] <todo> mess here with themes...xfce,gnome,kde,kde4....lol
[04:10] <tyson_> joost acts like ondemand, whereas tvuplayer simply streams whatever the cable channel is showing at the time
[04:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> Darkrift412: oooor, you can use konversation and use simple shell scripts for all of the extending :)
[04:11] <Darkrift412> oh wow
[04:11] <Darkrift412> i might have to look that up
[04:11] <Darkrift412> whats teh quality?
[04:13] <Darkrift412> let me know if it works in wine also
[04:14] <sayers> Does hardy ship with kde4?
[04:14] <todo> alpha 3
[04:16] <adrock358> does anyone know if you can save youtube videos?
[04:17] <tyson_> use the firefox extensions to do that, i think
[04:17] <adrock358> no?
[04:17] <adrock358> yeah?
[04:18] <adrock358> tyson_ any idea which extensions?
[04:18] <tyson_> i forget exactly which ones
[04:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> videodownloader
[04:18] <intelikey> i think i'm lagging.   -:- CTCP PING reply from intelikey: 111.081 seconds
[04:18] <Daisuke_Laptop> there's also a monkey one
[04:18] <tyson_> just google 'firefox extensions', then browse the multimedia ones
[04:19] <Daisuke_Laptop> it would appear so...
[04:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> 33 seconds
[04:21] <intelikey> Daisuke_Laptop full pipe.
[04:23] <intelikey> you realize that if i ping myself it is two round trips, as opposed to your ping of one round...
[04:24] <o_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:24] <o_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.20-16-386_2.6.20-16.33_i386.deb
[04:24] <o_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:24] <o_> WTH does that mean??
[04:24] <Daisuke_Laptop> it means something isn't right
[04:25] <o_> hee he
[04:25] <Dr_willis> Technicaly speaking... 'it broke' :)
[04:25] <o_> too deep for me...
[04:25] <organix> what were you trying to do o_
[04:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> try sudo dpkg --configure -a (i believe)
[04:26] <intelikey> o_ you need the error message that is above that one
[04:26] <o_> apt-get -f instal
[04:26] <o_> ahh
[04:27] <organix> if you -f it, make sure to upgrade after
[04:27] <o_> You shouldn't call /sbin/update-grub. Please call /usr/sbin/update-grub instead!
[04:27] <o_> that one?
[04:28] <o_> Your /etc/kernel-img.conf needs to be updated. Read grub's NEWS.Debian[1
[04:29] <o_> er that one?
[04:29] <intelikey> yes.   hehhe  it's another "totally stupid" absolute path error in the postinst.sh script for that package.
[04:29] <o_> wher do i find "grubs new debian...
[04:29] <o_> ahhh
[04:30] <o_> hem NOT my error??
[04:30] <o_> I'm trying to install ktorrent..
[04:31] <crazy_bus> is there a free software font replacement for MyriadMM  Because kpdf is displaying every letter next to each other with no gaps in between with dejavu (the replacement font)
[04:31] <intelikey> o_ if you wish you can edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package-name>.postinst  and change the /sbin/  to /usr/sbin/      should fix it.  then run  sudo dpkg --configure -a      to finish setting up the package.
[04:31] <intelikey> and do file a bug against that package
[04:31] <intelikey> !bug
[04:31] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[04:32] <o_> itell..lol.."I" can't edit ..
[04:32] <o_> i'm GREEN
[04:32] <o_> I'll file the bug
[04:35] <intelikey> o_ that is one of those " oh, <by_word> ! "   things that "packagers"/"script writers" do from time to time.
[04:36] <o_> thanks intelikey :)
[04:37] <ahmos> hello...
[04:37] <ahmos> I need a little help!
[04:38] <organix> speak ahmos
[04:38] <o_> intelikey.. is there a torrent program that I can dl, that will work ?
[04:38] <ahmos> I've installed x sensors but when I start it ,it opens a blank window!!
[04:39] <intelikey> o_ welcome.    and i don't normally lag this badly.   sorry for such long delays
[04:39] <intelikey> !ask | ahmos
[04:39] <ubotu> ahmos: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[04:39] <ahmos> so how to mae it work?
[04:39] <ahmos> make
[04:39] <organix> ahmos: blank white window perhaps?
[04:40] <ahmos> yes
[04:40] <ahmos> it don't contain any data
[04:40] <jontec> okay, guys... I just apt-get source'd a package whose source files I need to edit (ruby1.8) a.) where can I find them  b.) should I make the fixed files into a new deb to install? c.) how do I know what flags are normally set in the install?
[04:40] <organix> in a terminal can you type 'sensors-detect' please
[04:41] <organix> make sure you're sudo ahmos
[04:42] <intelikey> !torrent | o_  i really don't know.   i can't say that i have ever used any torrent.  but the bot may know...
[04:42] <ubotu> o_  i really don't know.   i can't say that i have ever used any torrent.  but the bot may know...: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[04:43] <gp2you> hi
[04:43] <organix> greetings
[04:43] <ubuntu> I just poped in the hardy haron cd and there is no KDE4
[04:43] <User2341_> hi everyone
[04:43] <gp2you> help kded is taking 100% cpu
[04:43] <gp2you> i cant kill it also
[04:43] <User2341_> could anyone tell me howto make full filename visible on kde desktop ?
[04:43] <o_> kool thanks..theres some readiin for me.
[04:44] <User2341_> for my long filename i have only part of the file names visible followed by ...
[04:44] <gp2you> help kded is taking 100% cpu Not able to kill it also
[04:44] <ahmos> hang on ,It keeps asking me for scanning my devices and I answer with yes..
[04:45] <gp2you> help kded is taking 100% cpu Not able to kill it also
[04:45] <gp2you> help kded is taking 100% cpu Not able to kill it also
[04:45] <gp2you> help kded is taking 100% cpu Not able to kill it also
[04:45] <jontec> gp2you: your last message is still visible in my window
[04:45] <organix> ahmos: keep answering yes, afterwards reboot
[04:45] <jontec> gp2you: wait 5 minutes before the same question
[04:45] <organix> gp2you quit spamming
[04:45] <gp2you> sorry my cpu is running 100%
[04:45] <jontec> gp2you: well, if someone knows how to help, they'll answer you
[04:45] <ahmos> ok I will reboot now ,hang on
[04:46] <organix> have you tried 'ps aux' and killing?
[04:46] <intelikey> gp2you  sudo killall -9 kded     or ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:46] <tzanger> good evening...   Reboot once again.
[04:55] <ahmos> ok
[04:57] <Agent_bob> if h2o is on the inside of a fire hydrant, what's on the outside ?     k9p ?
[04:58] <sub[t]rnl> *chuckle*
[04:58] <ahmos> I'm back again
[04:59] <JoeyJoeJo> I just installed kde4 and I have 2 of each program in my menu (2 konqueror, 2 kopete, etc)... how can I get rid of all my kde3 junk?
[05:00] <Agent_bob> !purekde4
[05:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about purekde4 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <ahmos> organix:what I can do now? :D
[05:02] <organix> ahmos: still not working?
[05:03] <ahmos> yes
[05:03] <Agent_bob> i don't have any sensors, i'm a p3...    does he have sensors ?
[05:04] <Agent_bob> da' mother                   board
[05:04] <organix> Agent_bob: I guess that would have been a good question to begin with.
[05:04] <ahmos> yes...nvidia 7300 LE graphic card...motherboard gigabyte ga-p31-ds3l and cpu p4 3.0GHz
[05:05] <Agent_bob> and the cpu provide the sensors
[05:05] <Agent_bob> and i'm sensa'less
[05:05] <ahmos> of course for the tmp. and fan speed sensor
[05:05] <ahmos> ha ha :D
[05:06] <Agent_bob> jus' thought i'd make sho'.
[05:06] <ahmos> ;)
[05:09] <mohammad> hi. how to run vnc?
[05:10] <Agent_bob> !vnc
[05:10] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[05:14] <Agent_bob> if i do >>> for Q in `cut -d':' -f1 /etc/passwd` ;do /bin/echo -e "`passwd -dl $Q`\b for account, \"$Q\"" ;done <<< what's my password now ?
[05:15] <Agent_bob> wb vicky
[05:16] <TheWhiteRook> ?
[05:17] <Agent_bob> wb = welcome back     but i should probably refrain from such shorthand
[05:17] <TheWhiteRook> yeah...
[05:17] <Agent_bob> idk
[05:18] <pierreth> hello
[05:18] <TheWhiteRook> sorry, :yeah" is to the "wb-welcome back"
[05:18] <TheWhiteRook> what does "idk" mean?  I remember I saw "asl" EVERYWHERE for about 2 months, and then it disappeared
[05:21] <todo> http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4006/snapshot1gk1.png ....:)
[05:22] <Agent_bob> TheWhiteRook took us that long to track all the aol geeks down and shoot them.     now   no more "asl, asl, asl, asl?"
[05:23] <Agent_bob> joke ^  of course.
[05:23] <TheWhiteRook> yay! thank you, Agent_bob
[05:25] <Dr_willis> !loop
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about loop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <TheWhiteRook> that asl had been getting on my nerves.
[05:25] <Dr_willis> !iso
[05:25] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[05:25] <Agent_bob> i really liked the doggy joke better though.
[05:25] <Agent_bob> TheWhiteRook oh you missed it.  i'll repost.
[05:25] <TheWhiteRook> what did I miss?
[05:25] <Agent_bob> if h2o is on the inside of a fire hydrant, what's on the outside ?     k9p ?
[05:26] <TheWhiteRook> I don't quite get it...
[05:26] <mohammad> how to define virtual host?
[05:26] <mohammad> i defined some but don't work
[05:27] <tzanger> hmm, what was the name of the codec package for all the various audio and video codecs?
[05:28] <DuEzZzIeR> =
[05:28] <Agent_bob> !codecs | tzanger
[05:28] <Dr_willis> w32codecs
[05:28] <ubotu> tzanger: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:29] <Dr_willis> they are at the medibuntu repo. i think
[05:29] <tzanger> aha, thank you
[05:30] <Agent_bob> w32 and w64codecs doc
[05:31] <Agent_bob> mohammad sorry, i'm network illiterate,  can't help ya' there.    maybe someone else
[05:32] <Agent_bob> and i can't spell my name apparently
[05:33] <alakhia> had a question about auto-mounting in kde
[05:34] <alakhia> i have two usb mass storage devices ... and they get mounted as /media/disk and /media/disk-1
[05:34] <alakhia> depending on which one I mount first
[05:34] <Agent_bob> removable or internal alakhia ?
[05:34] <alakhia> removable, Agent_bob
[05:35] <Agent_bob> ah ok.  usb.    sorry.  i'm lagging real bad
[05:35] <alakhia> problem is that my sym-links don't work unless I get the order right
[05:35] <alakhia> no problem, Agent_bob
[05:35] <alakhia> anyway I can name the dir created in /media based on device ID or something like that?
[05:36] <Agent_bob> alakhia hmmm   what do the links point at ?     ls -l /media/disk /media/disk-1
[05:36] <alakhia> I have symlinks like ~/Pictures -> /media/disk/Pictures
[05:37] <alakhia> but if the drive that has pictures is mounted first, this works
[05:37] <alakhia> otherwise, the drive shows up as /media/disk-1 and my Pictures symlink points to the first drive
[05:37] <Agent_bob> yeah you can't mount on /media/disk/Pictures unless /media/disk is mounted
[05:37] <alakhia> which doesn't have the Pictures dir
[05:38] <alakhia> I'm not trying to mount another dir within a mounted dir
[05:38] <alakhia> i'm basically mounting /media/disk and /media/disk-1
[05:38] <Agent_bob> the mountpoint for disk 2 is actually on disk 1     unless you change that you'll always have that issue.    OR! you could make the same dir on the other disk, and let it mount in reverse order.
[05:38] <alakhia> well, in my case, kde is
[05:39] <alakhia> no no, the two mountpoints are separate
[05:39] <alakhia> the order doesn't matter
[05:39] <Agent_bob> clue_by_four*** a symlink is not a mountpoint.  it only points to one.
[05:40] <alakhia> right ... the symlinks are in my home dir
[05:40] <alakhia> i juse need a consistent way to point my symlinks ...
[05:40] <Agent_bob> ok.   again   ls -l /media/disk /media/disk-1
[05:41] <Agent_bob> lets see what is happening?
[05:41] <alakhia> right now, my /media/disk has Pictures dir
[05:41] <Agent_bob> and if you hadn't noticed, i'm lagging.
[05:41] <alakhia> ok
[05:43] <Agent_bob> wait.   i think i see what you are trying to say.     and "you can't"    a symlink can not point to more than one destination"
[05:44] <alakhia> i want the symlink to always point to the same drive
[05:44] <dick-richardson> how do I compile source code that I wrote?
[05:44] <dick-richardson> cpp myfile.cpp something.exe?
[05:44] <Agent_bob> now.  if you want to make them manually mounted you can setup fstab and make symlinks that will work every time that the fs is mounted.
[05:45] <alakhia> basically, i want the thumbdrive usb to be /media/thumb ... and my backup drive to be /media/backup
[05:45] <Dr_willis> you dont need to name it .exe :)
[05:45] <alakhia> is there a way for the auto mounter to do that?
[05:45] <Dr_willis> alakhia,  you could set the thumbdrives label to be thumb?  that may  let it get automounted to /media/thumb
[05:46] <alakhia> how do I set the label?
[05:46] <dick-richardson> Dr_willis: right, but the output of the cpp command should be executable?
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Theres a bit of voodoo magic in how ithe stuff picks names.
[05:46] <Dr_willis> alakhia,  depends on its filesystem :)
[05:46] <alakhia> it's fat32
[05:46] <Dr_willis> proberly safest to set its label in wndws if its vfat/ntfs
[05:47] <alakhia> hmmm, ok
[05:47] <Dr_willis> It might not even have a Label if its just being called 'disk'
[05:47] <alakhia> right ... that's why my symlinks always break
[05:47] <Agent_bob> dick-richardson executable is not determined by name but by permission
[05:47] <alakhia> both devices want to be called /media/disk
[05:47] <Dr_willis> You could always set up a specific fstab entry based on label - also.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> or uuid,
[05:48] <Dr_willis> but that overrides the automounting stuff at times.
[05:48] <dazza> hi, what's the channel for kubuntu+1?
[05:48] <Darkrift412> alakhia, try pointing to the drives id, not the drive type
[05:48] <dazza> ie the hardy channel
[05:48] <Darkrift412> yes, like he said, uuid
[05:48] <Darkrift412> the id will always be the same for that device, no matter what else is plugged in
[05:48] <dick-richardson> Agent_bob: yes i know...what I'm saying is that running cpp on my source code results in a compiled binary, correct?
[05:48] <alakhia> uuid ... what is that?
[05:48] <stdin> dazza: #ubuntu+1
[05:48] <Darkrift412> so if you point at that uuid, it will always point at the same drive no matter what
[05:48] <dazza> thanks stdin
[05:48] <Darkrift412> under your mount points, you have devices sorted by uuid
[05:49] <Darkrift412> im not at a *nix box right now, so i cant give more details
[05:49] <Dr_willis> I find the LABEL option looks nicer in fstab then using UUID :)
[05:49] <Darkrift412> but there shoudl be a path that says something about "device by uuid" or something
[05:49] <Dr_willis> !uuid
[05:49] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[05:49] <Dr_willis> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[05:49] <Dr_willis> is another way to see  the uuids
[05:50] <Dr_willis>  ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/
[05:50] <sub[t]rnl> blkid
[05:50] <Dr_willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2008-02-02 16:50 VistaBoot -> ../../sda2
[05:50] <Darkrift412> check each device and see which one has the uuid you want, and then point your "shortcut" to that uuid path instead of /disk
[05:50] <Dr_willis> shows my disk is label VistaBoot :)
[05:50] <Dr_willis> LABEL=Vistaboot /media/VistaBoot ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[05:51] <Dr_willis> is my fstab entry for that.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> OR i could use the UUID=#########  /media/VistaBoot ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[05:51] <Dr_willis> for example.
[05:51] <tzanger> what is the package I'm interested in if I'm trying to get a useful backtrace out of twinkle (a sip softphone for KDE) ?  there's the kde debug info, but I forget what the name of the packages are that provide that
[05:52] <Agent_bob> fstab for usb drives tho
[05:54] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis will that fstab line mount when you plug in the device ?
[05:56] <ahmos> Hi everybody,my computer keeps hanging..and I discovered that my craphic card temprature becomes too high so it hangs...so any ideas
[05:57] <LinNewb> Hello People
[05:58] <alakhia> ahhhh, thanks Dr_willis ... I'll try /dev/disk/by-uuid
[06:00] <ahmos> hi Dr_willis,
[06:00] <LinNewb> anybody who can help me with cedega?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  nope. a line in fstab overrides the automounting. BUT when you go to access the device in konquer - i think it will mount then.
[06:00] <Dr_willis> at least thats how it seems to work. :)
[06:01] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis hmmmm ok.  so they have a kio calling a mount command now ?     nice    (if you like that kind of thing)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> its been in there for ages.  I think.
[06:02] <Goop2> I'm having an audio problem.. it sounds like there's way too much gain or something
[06:02] <Agent_bob> well i probably never noticed it because users can't mount here...
[06:02] <Agent_bob> Goop2 alsamixer   adjust it ?
[06:03] <Goop2> I would, but I have no idea what to adjust
[06:03] <ahmos> what is the command for closing the x server please
[06:04] <ahmos> ?
[06:04] <Agent_bob> input gain?  mic ?   line in ?   recording level ?
[06:04] <Agent_bob> ahmos sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[06:04] <Goop2> output
[06:04] <ahmos> tahnks
[06:04] <ahmos> thanks
[06:04] <Dr_willis> ahmos,  rstart the kdm service or hit alt-ctrl-backspace to kill it NOW. :)
[06:05] <ahmos> ok
[06:05] <Goop2> Agent_bob: I muted all 3D sound, and anything else just affects the volume itself
[06:05] <Agent_bob> alt-ctrl-backspace != command for closing the x server
[06:06] <Agent_bob> Goop2 you do see there is both "input" and "output" settings?
[06:06] <Goop2> Agent_bob: yeah
[06:06] <Agent_bob> k
[06:07] <Agent_bob> so use the app you are using to record and turn down the recording volume
[06:07] <Goop2> that isn't even on
[06:07] <Goop2> actually turning down PCM helped
[06:08] <Goop2> it had a huge effect on the volume, but it got rid of the gain sound
[06:10] <Goop2> it wasn't input I was having trouble with
[06:11] <Goop2> my output was buzzy
[06:11] <val0> I have a weird error, when I click on my kde panel I get a "Malformed URL. system:/" error any ideas?
[06:11] <tzanger> what is the package I'm interested in if I'm trying to get a useful backtrace out of twinkle (a sip softphone for KDE) ?  there's the kde debug info, but I forget what the name of the packages are that provide that
[06:26] <Agent_bob> tzanger you could try searching in a package-manager    apt-cache search bug    or debug   or what ever...
[06:27] <Agent_bob> !info kbugbuster
[06:27] <ubotu> kbugbuster (source: kdesdk): a front end for the KDE bug tracking system. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 436 kB, installed size 1220 kB
[06:28] <Agent_bob> that's all i see in dapper that even comes close
[06:29] <hydrogen> err
[06:29] <hydrogen> no
[06:29] <hydrogen> thats not at all what he's asking
[06:29] <hydrogen> he's asking about the -dbg packages
[06:29] <hydrogen> not how to interface with kde's bugzilla
[06:30] <Agent_bob> that's still all that looks remotely close in dapper.    and i knew that wasn't what he wanted,   would pointed at it long ago if it was.
[06:31] <hydrogen> that isn't remotely close..
[06:31] <tzanger> Agent_bob: yes, but someone had told me about a "secret" repository that had debug packages for WAY more packages than what normally showed up... I can't remember what the heck that was though
[06:31] <hydrogen> tzanger: It doesn't appear that there is a package with the debug symbols for twinkle
[06:48] <jessie> you ppl in here?
[06:50] <kiefer_> we are
[06:50] <kiefer_> Well, I am :)
[06:51] <jessie> hey kiefer_
[06:51] <kiefer_> Hello :)
[06:51] <jessie> good to see you on again
[06:51] <kiefer_> Haha, always on
[06:53] <jessie> haha.... nice!
[06:53] <kiefer_> Lol, Ty
[06:54] <jessie> kiefer_: so did you get whatever problem it was sorted out?
[06:54] <kiefer_> I had lots of problems/questions, most got sorted
[06:54] <jessie> kiefer_: did you get the one you asked me about sorted out? i cant remember for the life of me what it was
[06:55] <AMcBain> Any idea why Amarok has a problem with multiple albums with the same name? I gave two Gold [Disc 1] and Gold [Disk 2] for Aerosmith and Joe Cocker. It insists when I choose an album cover that I am doing it for the Aerosmith album (as it comes first alphabetically) even when I distinctly click on the Joe Cocker image
[06:56] <AMcBain> Okay, I admit that since Albums are composed of songs, it might be a bit hard to keep them apart (as albums have no affinity towards a certain artist)
[06:57] <FunnyLookinHat> nixternal, So what are the chances you could point me towards a good list of packages to install for getting KDE4 on Hardy?  I saw the gutsy stuff with the special PPA repo but nothing for Hardy
[06:59] <TheWhiteRook> how do I set Dolphin to be the default file manager in KDE4?
[07:00] <travkin> how to resize a panel in KDE4? :D
[07:01] <ani> travkin: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Projects/Plasma/FAQ#How_can_I_change_the_height_of_the_panel.3F
[07:01] <AMcBain> How do you do anything in something. That's the ultimate question. Solve it and you have the answer to anything. (though I think 42 already takes that cake)
[07:03] <FunnyLookinHat> travkin, How did you get KDE4 installed?  With Gutsy PPA or on hardy?
[07:07] <hydrogen> travkin: you can't until 4.0.2 at the earliest
[07:07] <hydrogen> without some fairly adventuresome config file changes
[07:10] <jmut> hi. where I can see list of packages of kubuntu. So I see what are latest versions of some I am interested.
[07:10] <AMcBain> ugh, found a new album with the same name as another. This is getting fairly annoying.
[07:10] <kiefer__> jmut: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:14] <jmut> kiefer__: mmm.thats lovely. Now only need to find what each name stands for :D . thanks
[07:15] <kiefer__> Lol, No problem :)
[07:21] <AMcBain> Can Amarok rip CDs?
[07:21] <AMcBain> (well, I'm pretty sure it can, I just wondered how)
[07:22] <kiefer__> (exactly what i thought when you asked)
[07:22] <AMcBain> I'm around enough people that pretend to be literalists that I watch out for it too
[07:24] <ahmos> Hi,I need a little help for choosing wich nvidia driver I should Install(X.org legacy driver,x.org driver,x.org new driver) I have geforce 7300 LE
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> AMcBain: It definetly can.. By means of the kio slaves...
[07:25] <AMcBain> huh?
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Can't remember how you do it exactly...
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> AMcBain: Just as you would simply open an audio cd in Konqueror and copy the wav/mp3/ogg files it offers you...
[07:26] <ol_dude67> i dont know i always use k3b
[07:26] <AMcBain> That works? It never worked under Windows ... (though that could be the OS)
[07:26] <AMcBain> It always ended up giving me links ..
[07:26] <MilhousePunkRock> AMcBain: KDE >> Windows
[07:26] <AMcBain> Only one > unless you meant to bit shift ...
[07:26] <Daisuke_Ido> webilder's turned out to be a neat little program
[07:27] <MilhousePunkRock> AMcBain: It works, I have done it, it will start copying and you will notice it's slower than it should be, that's when the encoding takes place
[07:27] <ol_dude67> well i like k3b, cause if i down load say like the new ubuntu, it almost always burns it as an iso.
[07:27] <gundam_rx78nt1> where do I go to change the default login image/background?
[07:28] <ahmos> anybody help me please!!
[07:28] <gundam_rx78nt1> what is wrong ahmos?
[07:28] <ol_dude67> gundam_rx78nt1, did you look in systems?
[07:28] <MilhousePunkRock> ahmos: nvidia-glx-new
[07:28] <kiefer__> AMcBain: http://docs.kde.org/userguide/audio-cd.html --Not sure if that will be helpfull, IM on wireless so its taking time to load, so I havnt read it
[07:28] <ahmos> I need a little help for choosing wich nvidia driver I should Install(X.org legacy driver,x.org driver,x.org new driver) I have geforce 7300 LE
[07:28] <MilhousePunkRock> ahmos: If you have problems with that, just go for nvidia-glx
[07:29] <MilhousePunkRock> ahmos: nvidia-glx-new, like i said a minute ago
[07:29] <kiefer__> Anyway Im off to watch some good old fashioned TV, Bye all, BBL.
[07:29] <Daisuke_Ido> 7300?  install new.
[07:29] <AMcBain> kiefer: Yeah, I found an article one it, but it wasn't really telling me much, and if I go MilhousePunkRock's approach I can't get mp3s ...
[07:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> ol_dude67, I did change it in the kcontrol but it doesn't work.  I get the "defaul" login screen and then the image I selected for a split second.
[07:29] <ahmos> aha because my graphic card is overheated after a while so that the system hangs
[07:29] <MilhousePunkRock> AMcBain: Lame installed?
[07:29] <Daisuke_Ido> and the audiocd: kioslave is awesome
[07:29] <MilhousePunkRock> ahmos: That's not a driver issue, that's an hardware issue
[07:29] <gundam_rx78nt1> I would like to have the image I want as the default background.
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> ahmos: that's not a driver issue, that's a "get some forking ventilation" issue
[07:30] <ahmos> ok so is there any solution
[07:30] <ol_dude67> oh left click on desktop and go to configure
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah
[07:30] <AMcBain> Ah yes lame. the item nobody can bundle with anything because they don't want to get in any trouble yet it ends up being the most useful ...
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> ventilation
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> if the card's overheating, it's not an os problem
[07:30] <Daisuke_Ido> AMcBain: you got it :)
[07:31] <Daisuke_Ido> while i like the idea of using free formats like ogg vorbis, i have 177gb of mp3s that say otherwise
[07:31] <MilhousePunkRock> AMcBain: I rip my CDs with the good ol' KaudioCreator though...
[07:31] <ahmos> ok thank's pople for help..;)
[07:32] <Daisuke_Ido> kaudiocreator offers the most flexibility
[07:32] <travkin> FunnyLookinHat: on 7.10 - gutsy ppa
[07:32] <Daisuke_Ido> *but* it's still no EAC
[07:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Daisuke_Ido: If my mobile player and my car stereo would play ogg, I would re-rip my ~300 CDs
[07:32] <travkin> FunnyLookinHat: on hardy - hardy ;)
[07:32] <travkin> it's working stable
[07:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Daisuke_Ido: Funny, that's one thing I miss from Windows too
[07:32] <travkin> without any problemz
[07:32] <travkin> just 2 things missing
[07:33] <Daisuke_Ido> cdparanoia just isn't up to par
[07:33] <shinda> hey guys anyone know of any file recover apps ?
[07:33] <travkin> program hotkeys + panel resize
[07:33] <Daisuke_Ido> it's good, don't get me wrong
[07:33] <Daisuke_Ido> but it's not EAC
[07:33] <AMcBain> Apparently Kaffeine rips CDs but it doesn't recognize that I just installed lame.
[07:33] <Daisuke_Ido> fortunately, EAC works under wine
[07:35]  * AMcBain wonders where lame really installed, as Kaffeine looks in /usr/lib/codecs
[07:35] <Daisuke_Ido> did you restart kaffeine?
[07:35] <MilhousePunkRock> AMcBain: You did restart Kaffeine after installing lame, did you?
[07:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Daisuke_Ido: Seems like I am a bit faster this morning ;P
[07:36] <AMcBain> I opened if *after* I isntalled lame
[07:36] <Daisuke_Ido> MilhousePunkRock: that's twice.  i'm watching you.
[07:36] <Daisuke_Ido> :P
[07:36] <Daisuke_Ido> AMcBain: now that lame is installed, you can use the audiocd:/ kioslave
[07:37] <AMcBain> uh ... okay
[07:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Unfortunately system settings do not allow you to specify a bitrate, only a "quality", IIRC
[07:37] <Daisuke_Ido> true
[07:37] <Daisuke_Ido> but if you've noticed, lame has gone to a "quality" based set of presets
[07:37] <Daisuke_Ido> V0 - V8
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> V0 being the former alt-preset-extreme
[07:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Daisuke_Ido: I encode - CBR 192
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> V8 being barely adequate for spoken-work
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> APX for me
[07:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Or however that was done, can't remember, been a while since I set it up...
[07:39] <shinda> anyone know of any utilities avaiable that can recover data deleted on fat32 disk?
[07:40] <JoeyJoeJo> how do I change the settings of the taskbar (or whatever it's called in KDE)?
[07:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> how do I chang the kdm theme?
[07:41] <gundam_rx78nt1> change, sorry it's been a long day.
[07:42] <AMcBain> Aha!
[07:42] <AMcBain> mp3's now show up in dolphin
[07:42] <sub[t]rnl> JoeyJoeJo➜ right click on the tasbar -> configure panel
[07:42] <sub[t]rnl> !kdmtheme | gundam_rx78nt1
[07:42] <ubotu> gundam_rx78nt1: To customize your !KDM theme, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu - However, see http://subtrnl.homelinux.com/kdmtheme.html for working around bug #132723 (http://tinyurl.com/2prhgc)
[07:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> thanks sub[t]rnl
[07:44] <AMcBain> Dang. I hit the "Dolphin-Tooltip Segfault" error again.
[07:44] <AMcBain> Seems weird to have a segfault related to a Tooltip. That would be the last thing I would expect to crash an app.
[07:45] <AMcBain> (yes I can reproduce it, that's why I gave it a name)
[07:45] <TheWhiteRook> GRRRR I've got that weird bug in KDE 4 that I've seen in Com piz, in which the system tray icons are all opened in their own mini windows...
[07:48] <TheWhiteRook> does anyone know how to fix the system tray icon bug?
[07:49] <AMcBain> 1) Get steps to reproduce it 2) Check them again 2a) get someone here to verify 3) Post to "bug repository"
[07:49] <AMcBain> 2a is optional, I suppose
[07:53] <Jckl> Anyone know why i only get 2 desktops when i have it set for 4?
[07:54] <AMcBain> How can anyone really manage more than 1? Multitasking really doesn't exist. You are only doing one thing at a time.
[07:54] <AMcBain> at any given time*
[07:55] <MilhousePunkRock> AMcBain: I just hooked up a second screen two days ago... :D
[07:55] <AMcBain> MilhousePunkRock: URandR
[07:56] <Jckl> ever code a website that has multiple files... it clusters up your desktop.. having more than 1 is an easy way to keep the clutter down and easy to switch between the desktops
[07:56] <AMcBain> Though when it asks you the first time to restart the X-Server ... click no, and restart the PC manually yourself.
[07:56] <Jckl> i use to have 2 monitors on my pc but not anymore
[07:56] <AMcBain> As when it does it, it doesn't quite shut down right,.
[07:56] <AMcBain> You get a blank screen with a blinky cursor and anything you type does nothing. Kubuntu never restarts.
[07:57] <AMcBain> So, just do it yourself. Other than that, URandR is a very nice program.
[07:57] <AMcBain> (oh, and before you try it ... it doesn't show up via apt-get/adept. Use Google, first hit.)
[08:01] <nick__> horray
[08:02] <nick__> ls
[08:02] <AMcBain> nick__: wrong window :P
[08:03] <TheWhiteRook> I asked this in #kubuntu-kde4, but no one's there: does anyone know how to get the system tray icons to stop appearing in their own little windows when the desktop effects are enabled?
[08:04] <AMcBain> People don't usually answer things here or in #kde (etc) unless it's interesting, they are interested or the answer is quick ... so you could be here/there a while and get no reply or just plain ignored :-/
[08:05] <TheWhiteRook> heh. thought so. Worth a shot though...
[08:06] <AMcBain> I kinda thought people would answer anything on IRC, but then again, I hang out on ##java and almost anything gets a response there, if only a bot spam to rtfm
[08:07]  * AMcBain wonders why FF's settings are under the "edit" menu ...
[08:07] <sub[t]rnl> most anyone here will answer your question if they know it, your just around at the wrong time.  Most are idle.
[08:07] <jessie> hey guys and gals
[08:07] <AMcBain> Hey, while I'm thinking about it ... how do I make FF the default browser?
[08:07] <johey> The linuxdcpp package for Gutsy Gibbon is 0.698, while there has been 1.01 out there quite some time. Is this package no longer maintained? Is there any third party repository with a newer version?
[08:08] <jessie> oh.. i read about this somewhere. its something like debian-default....
[08:08] <MilhousePunkRock> AMcBain: The always used to b there... The just changed it to extras for the windows version
[08:08] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ kcontrol -> kde components -> default applications
[08:09] <AMcBain> ?? There is no kcontrol
[08:09] <sub[t]rnl> alt + f2 and type kcontrol
[08:09] <AMcBain> nevermind. found it under system settings.
[08:10] <ol_dude67> AMcBain, open firefox and set it in preference under edit.
[08:10] <AMcBain> That doesn't do it.
[08:10] <AMcBain> I tried that last time. Seems to be broke,.
[08:10] <ol_dude67> ah ok,
[08:10]  * AMcBain remembers he has to install Thunderbird ...
[08:11] <jessie> sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[08:11] <jessie> there it is!
[08:13] <AMcBain> Oh no!
[08:13] <jessie> AMcBain: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[08:13] <AMcBain> I can't find my files for Thunderbird ... I know I grabbed them ...
[08:13] <jessie> that'll do it for you...
[08:13] <jessie> AMcBain: thats no good!
[08:14] <AMcBain> That means I've lost ZILLIONS of e-mails forever.,
[08:14] <AMcBain> How do you explain that to others? Please resend? :P
[08:14] <jessie> hahaha.... ummm... you cant? haha
[08:14] <val0> running vmware server on kubuntu, trying to add a serial number but get the "need to be an administrator to enter serial number error". what's the solution? thanks
[08:15] <jessie> val0: run vmware as root?
[08:15] <ol_dude67> sudo then the number
[08:15] <jessie> aka using sudo
[08:15] <val0> ol_dude67: sudo vmware ####-####?
[08:16] <ol_dude67> no just sudo and the number
[08:16] <AMcBain> I know I went into the folder at least ... so why didn't I copy it? Since the install had to reformat the partitions to ext3 ... that means I lost them forever, unless they are on the disk somewhere that I don't see.
[08:16] <val0> ol_dude67: in the console?
[08:16] <jessie> ol_dude67: that dont make no sense. it should be something like... sudo vmware-register
[08:16] <jessie> AMcBain: .thunderbird?
[08:17] <val0> jessie: that's what i am confused about
[08:17] <ol_dude67> well when i installed it i just had to put sudo the number in consol,when it was installing
[08:17] <AMcBain> jessie: My previous OS was Windows.
[08:17] <jessie> val0: no joke, shouldnt be just the number.
[08:17] <AMcBain> So it doesn't start with .thunderbird ...
[08:17] <AMcBain> (iirc)
[08:17] <travkin_> :))
[08:17] <val0> jessie: i know that i can run config vmware again and enter it there, but i don't remember how to enter in manually
[08:17] <jessie> AMcBain: ohhhh....... hmm... thats not good at all. yeah, i dont know what you could do. try using a file thingy ma jigger..
[08:18] <TheWhiteRook> AMcBain, I rebooted and the problem fixed itself
[08:18] <AMcBain> Ok
[08:18] <TheWhiteRook> :)
[08:18] <AMcBain> Oh weird. ls sees some folders I don't.
[08:18] <AMcBain> I did copy it.
[08:18] <AMcBain> ls++
[08:18] <TheWhiteRook> when google fails... reboot...
[08:19] <AMcBain> Oh. they show up as red on ls. that's bad.
[08:20] <AMcBain> Is there anyway to get Linux to see folders with *spaces* in their names!?
[08:20] <AMcBain> Or at least let me rename them?
[08:21] <AMcBain> It won't even let me cd there even if I use ''
[08:21] <jessie> AMcBain: i have spaces in em
[08:21] <jessie> ahh..... use the tab
[08:21] <AMcBain> tab?
[08:22] <jessie> ie, if you have a folder named "Jessie Morris", type in "cd Jessie" click tab... waula!
[08:22] <sub[t]rnl> AMcBain➜ what makes you think linux doesn't recognize spaces?
[08:22] <sub[t]rnl> heh..
[08:22] <AMcBain> ls shows them in red and won't let me ls or cd there.
[08:22] <Dr_willis> sub[t]rnl,  :) lack of  experience :)
[08:22] <AMcBain> And Dolphin won't show them either.
[08:22] <AMcBain> So by process of elimintation ...
[08:23] <Dr_willis> try a ls -l
[08:23] <AMcBain> elimination*
[08:23] <Dr_willis> red often means broken links
[08:23] <Dr_willis> in ls at least. :)
[08:23] <Dr_willis> or was that flashing red? i forget.
[08:23] <AMcBain> ls -l shows them as ??? Which they shouldn't be, as they copied themselves nicely ...
[08:23] <Dr_willis> I gotta find a 'what all the colors in ls mean' web site someday
[08:24] <Dr_willis> shows what as ??>? the owner?
[08:24] <AMcBain> I think this is a side affect of having to manually mount this ..
[08:24] <jessie> Dr_willis: what does one have to do to get colors on ls?
[08:24] <AMcBain> ?? for everything. owner , mod etc.
[08:24] <Dr_willis> jessie,  its the default.. ls --color can force it.
[08:24] <Dr_willis> ls -l Firefox_wallpaper.png
[08:24] <Dr_willis> -rw-r--r-- 1 willis willis 1047890 2008-01-29 07:50 Firefox_wallpaper.png
[08:24] <AMcBain> Everything but the name is a ?
[08:24] <Dr_willis> ??? for the mode ? instead of -rw------ ?
[08:24] <AMcBain> yep
[08:24] <Dr_willis> Thats dont soubnd good.
[08:25] <jessie> hmmm.... not the default on mine. but thats good to know!
[08:25] <Dr_willis> what filesystem are these files on?
[08:25] <AMcBain> NTFS
[08:25] <Dr_willis>  alias ls='ls --color=auto'
[08:25] <Dr_willis> is the default on ubuntu i thought
[08:25] <AMcBain> I could visit a lab PC and see if they are really there or what-not.
[08:25] <AMcBain> (all labs are PC, except one or two mac ones somewhere ...)
[08:26] <AMcBain> Let me go and come back and see where I get.
[08:26] <jessie> thank you!
[08:26] <AMcBain> If they are truly gone I will be very angry.
[08:27] <jessie> hey, Dr_willis how do i make that alias change perminate?
[08:27]  * AMcBain runs off to go try his 'experiment'.
[08:27] <Dr_willis> edit your .bashrc or .bash_profile
[08:28] <jessie> i dont seem to have one.... :S
[08:28] <AMcBain> You can always create one.
[08:28] <AMcBain> Using a text editor.
[08:28] <Dr_willis> thats weird.
[08:28] <AMcBain> (nano is installed by default, I think)
[08:28] <Dr_willis> I got a rather complex one by default
[08:28] <jessie> Dr_willis: you're telling me. and yeah, would you pastebin it for my convinence?
[08:28] <Dr_willis> does all sorts of nice things. :)
[08:29] <jessie> haha.... like what?
[08:29] <kiefer> How do I change my screen res. ? lol
[08:29] <Dr_willis> reads a .alias_settings file so you just add your alias's there.. sets a nice prompt.. sets other things
[08:29] <mixed> Dr_willis, you know how to install KDE3 from ubuntu?
[08:29] <jessie> hmmmm... sounds quite nice. and im just gonna copy mine over from another user
[08:30]  * solid_liq waves to Dr_willis
[08:30] <jessie> wow.... much better!
[08:30] <Dr_willis> http://pastebin.com/m234320f5   - .bashrc file
[08:31] <Dr_willis> mixed,  install ubuntu-desktop package
[08:31] <jessie> thanks a million!
[08:31] <Dr_willis> http://pastebin.com/m203cbf82  .bash_profile
[08:31] <Dr_willis> You Might want to look in /etc/skel and see whats in there.
[08:32] <Dr_willis> You may of just deleted your default ones from your users home dir
[08:32] <mixed> Dr_willis, you mean maybe "kubuntu-desktop" package?
[08:32] <Dr_willis> mixed,   proberly :) thats on the Kubuntu faq by the way. :P
[08:33] <Dr_willis> heck install xubuntu-desktop  for more fun! :)
[08:33] <Dr_willis> I dont think thers a fluxbuntu-desktop yet.
[08:33] <Dr_willis> !find -desktop
[08:33] <ubotu> Found: E:
[08:33] <Dr_willis> Lol!
[08:34] <Dr_willis> !find desktop
[08:34] <ubotu> Found: desktop-base, desktop-file-utils, edubuntu-desktop, edubuntu-desktop-kde, gobuntu-desktop (and 45 others)
[08:34] <Dr_willis> !info gobuntu-desktop
[08:34] <ubotu> gobuntu-desktop (source: gobuntu-meta): The Gobuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[08:34] <Dr_willis> what the heck is that one. :P
[08:34] <jessie> Dr_willis: i get this error using your .bashrc
[08:34] <jessie> lsbash: lsbytesum: command not found
[08:34] <Dr_willis> jessie,  you WILL need to edit my bash prompt
[08:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:34] <mixed> !kubuntu
[08:34] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[08:35] <Dr_willis> Unless you want my lsbytesum utility. ;P
[08:35] <jessie> Dr_willis: very good point. haha..... its a bit late where im at, so thats my excuse!
[08:35] <jessie> Dr_willis: what does that do? haha
[08:36] <Dr_willis> http://pastebin.com/m7e69b458
[08:36] <Dr_willis> shows the bytes used in the current dir.
[08:36] <Dr_willis> willis@mint:~(93.644 Mb)$ gedit .bashrc .bash_profile
[08:36] <jessie> thanks! but where do i stick it? /usr/bin?
[08:36] <Dr_willis> for Examplke
[08:37] <Dr_willis> I got a bin in my home dir. You could put it in /bin or /usr/bin if you want
[08:37] <Dr_willis> i got lots of little scripts/tools like that. :)
[08:37] <Dr_willis> start a collection!
[08:38] <jessie> haha... thats awesome!
[08:39] <Dr_willis> Check out the advanced bash scripting guide. and the bash prompt howto for more.
[08:39] <jessie> will do! hey, how would i change it so its recursive? -R?
[08:40] <Dr_willis> you want all subdirs? that may take a lot of cpu time
[08:40] <jessie> whoops... now its butt slow... haha
[08:41] <AMcBain> Okay, the folders do exist, but now I'm going through the whole "mount causes error" shit agian.
[08:41] <AMcBain> again*
[08:41] <jessie> AMcBain: what is the exact error?
[08:42] <AMcBain> Well, it says the directory doesn't exist, while Dolphin says it does, but says "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"
[08:43] <jessie> AMcBain: try force mounting it by hand
[08:43] <AMcBain> I did. I had to do that to override my idiocy at unplugging it from the Windows PC and not removing it nicelty.
[08:44] <AMcBain> nicely*
[08:44] <jessie> ie, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 ...
[08:44] <jessie> you did it like that?
[08:44] <AMcBain> Yep,
[08:45] <AMcBain> Says /media/sdc1 doesn't exist ...
[08:45] <AMcBain> which it does ...
[08:45] <jessie> you sure it does?
[08:45] <jessie> AMcBain: ls -l /dev/sd*
[08:45] <jessie> pastebin it
[08:45] <jessie> please
[08:46] <AMcBain> I know. You wouldn't want that pasted to the channel.
[08:46] <jessie> AMcBain: meh... you never know. people do it all the time!
[08:46] <AMcBain> http://pastebin.stonekeep.com/1547
[08:48] <jessie> AMcBain: ok, do "sudo umount /dev/sdc1"
[08:48] <jessie> then, sudo mkdir /media/sdc1
[08:48] <AMcBain> mounting straight "sdc" doesn't work ... one sec.
[08:48] <jessie> AMcBain: well, yeah, you have to mount partitions, not disks
[08:49] <AMcBain> It says it wasn't mounted in the first place ...
[08:49] <jessie> AMcBain: ok, thats fine then. so do the sudo mkdir /media/sdc1
[08:49] <AMcBain> done
[08:50] <AMcBain> Now what?
[08:50] <jessie> AMcBain: alright, now "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1"
[08:50]  * AMcBain rejoices.
[08:50] <jessie> AMcBain: better? haha
[08:50] <AMcBain> And my "bad" folder is there now too.
[08:51] <jessie> AMcBain: you may need to use sudo to copy things over. file permissions may be all funky
[08:51] <AMcBain> Seems to work
[08:52] <AMcBain> Shows up green under ls
[08:52] <jessie> AMcBain: awesome. glad i could help. btw, that mount command is pretty general
[08:52] <jessie> like, it goes "sudo mount -t "file_sys" "/device/to/mount" "/place/to/mount/to"
[08:53] <AMcBain> Now I just have to figure out why Thunderbird only gives me the option on first start to not import anything. It's a radio button with only one option. So dumb.
[08:53] <jessie> AMcBain: it does? hmmm...
[08:53] <Dr_willis> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" - can be  fixed by installing/running the ntfs-config utility and checking the box;s :) but that just adds a proper fstab entry  for the devices mainly
[08:54] <AMcBain> I tried that.
[08:54] <AMcBain> But the program installs, and when I run it, I get no window.
[08:54] <jessie> AMcBain: that is quite retarded!
[08:54] <AMcBain> I can try again.
[08:55] <Dr_willis> sudo ntfs-config
[08:55] <AMcBain> jessie: yes, well, I'll just have to follow their steps to running the profile manager.
[08:55] <Dr_willis>  oh you are talking about Thunderbird
[08:57] <AMcBain> Oh lovely. The Thunderbird FAQ doesn't have a category about migrating from itself to itself (different platforms or a reinstall)
[08:57] <mixed> Dr_willis, thank you for the 411, I think, I just updated ubuntustudio with kde, don't know how I did it but it worked, kinda drunk right now but it's all good, cheers!
[08:58] <jessie> AMcBain: ok, just take the folder
[08:58] <jessie> and move it to your home dircectory
[08:58] <jessie> rename it to .thunderbird
[08:58] <AMcBain> Wait ... I do see a thingy for it.
[08:59] <jessie> AMcBain: thats good!
[08:59] <AMcBain> On their webpage.
[09:00] <jessie> AMcBain: i would guess its something like what i suggested, right?
[09:01] <AMcBain> Well, sorta. I gotta fix some pathing stuff, as it came from XP ...
[09:01] <AMcBain> Except the profile.ini checks out ...
[09:01] <Cavallito> why package should I install to play quicktime movies in FF ?
[09:02] <jessie> !quicktime
[09:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:02] <Cavallito> why/what*
[09:02] <Cavallito> thanks
[09:02] <jessie> haha.. thanks ubotu, not me
[09:02] <jessie> *thank
[09:03] <Cavallito> to you jessie and mr. ubotu :)
[09:03] <jessie> haha..... nice! hope you find what you're looking for
[09:09] <Stilo> hi!
[09:09] <JoshOvki> hi stilo
[09:10] <Stilo> i have a problem with katapult and xgl. when i press ALT+Space it wont appear. Anyone knows a solution?
[09:10] <Stilo> when i start a session without xgl, then it works fine
[09:11] <JoshOvki> try reinstalling katapult
[09:19] <mixed> go giants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:21] <AMcBain> It appears that no on in #thunderbird on the mozilla server cares right now. Maybe if I try again tomorrow after I've had some sleep. It's 3:21 am here
[09:21] <mixed> !mp3
[09:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:24] <Tomasu> I'm having trouble getting kde4 svn to start up: http://pastebin.ca/889904 (.xsession-errors), and running dolphin standalone leads to a QMutex deadlock error.
[09:27] <surgy> ! kde4 | Tomasu
[09:27] <ubotu> Tomasu: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[09:27] <Tomasu> does that include kde svn? or just 4.0.x ?
[09:28] <stdin> Tomasu: we can't support kde svn, ask in #kde-devel
[09:28] <Tomasu> did, they said check here
[09:28] <surgy> hi stdin
[09:28] <stdin> Tomasu: you aren't running the kubuntu builds, so we don't know what you're running
[09:28] <Tomasu> base kubuntu and the latest svn
[09:29] <stdin> Tomasu: if we didn't package it, then we can not support it
[09:31] <Tomasu> nobody can even say they've seen the issue?
[09:32] <Tomasu> I'm attempting to get started with a little kde 4 development
[09:33] <stdin> read the getting started guide and ask people in #kde-devel, that's all I can tell you
[09:33] <Tomasu> friendly
[09:33] <stdin> this is a Kubuntu support channel, no a *.* support channel
[09:34] <stdin> *not
[09:34] <Tomasu> I am running kubuntu.
[09:34] <nuxil> read topic :p
[09:34] <stdin> but you're using unstable software from SVN which we can not control or predict in any way
[09:35] <Tomasu> starting to understand where aaron got his oppionion from...
[09:35] <kiefer> We can predict software?
[09:35] <kiefer> O.O
[09:35] <kiefer> In my experience, No software can be predicted :)
[09:35] <stdin> this is getting offtopic, and I won't continue
[09:35] <Tomasu> way to stuffy...
[09:36] <ahmed> anyone could help me here?? i have proplem in my pc i have kubuntu 7.10
[09:36] <JoshOvki> kiefer, hell yeh. like i predict allsoftware has bugs
[09:36] <kiefer> Rofffffl!
[09:36] <nuxil> !ask | ahmed
[09:36] <ubotu> ahmed: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:36] <JoshOvki> ahmed whats the problem?
[09:36] <kiefer> Ahmed: Whats the problem?
[09:37] <JoshOvki> hey i just said that
[09:37] <nuxil> hehe
[09:37] <ahmed> yesterday i was playing any movies regular but today when i play any one all pc hang i ahve to restard it to resolve this by the way thanks for helping
[09:38] <JoshOvki> ahamed:  what program are you using to play them?
[09:38] <kiefer> Awesome, 150 BYTES Per second, I sure love wireless :) *Sarcasm*
[09:38] <ahmed> im new to linux
[09:38] <ahmed> splayer
[09:38] <ahmed> smplayer
[09:39] <kiefer> Have you tried any other players?
[09:39] <JoshOvki> thats me out, i have never used it. I would reccomend VLC
[09:39] <ahmed> no i didnt try any other programs
[09:39] <enry> hello
[09:39] <ahmed> but i alwayts use this
[09:39] <kiefer> Im pretty new to Linux, But common sense plays a role in tech help ^_^
[09:40] <kiefer> ahmed: try another player
[09:40] <ahmed> ok i'll try it now if it hang i'll restart and baxcjk ok
[09:40] <kiefer> ahmed: as you need to find out whether its the files or the player (or the codecs)
[09:40] <nuxil> try one of thise ones .. mplayer | xine | kaffine
[09:40] <Freku> vlc player
[09:40] <kiefer> ahmed: Sure thing, let us know :)
[09:40] <nuxil> or that one
[09:40] <nuxil> :)
[09:41] <JoshOvki> i agree with freku
[09:41] <ahmed> i'll try vlc these programs support arabic subtitles for me
[09:41] <Thecks> Oh, somebody might know.. it's a rather vague problem but...
[09:41] <Thecks> I was fiddling around with KNetworkManager and now all of a sudden, it doesn't see any wireless networks.
[09:42] <kiefer> Did you 'fiddle' a manual configuration?
[09:42] <Thecks> I've tried with another app KWifiManager which sees them fine.
[09:42] <gianpiero> hello
[09:42] <Freku> rty unfiddling  :-)
[09:42] <kiefer> rofl
[09:42] <Thecks> kiefer: I think so :p
[09:42] <JoshOvki> lol
[09:42] <Thecks> Freku: I've tried, it doesn't make sense.. put it back to how it was
[09:42] <Thecks> No go. Changed the network file, no go.
[09:43] <kiefer> Thecks: Hehe, I had a similar problem, I set a manual configuration by accident, then the wireless networks wouldnt show, cant remember how I fixed it...
[09:43] <JoshOvki> Thecks, copy your /etc/network/interfaces    clear out the oroginol and restart
[09:43] <Thecks> JoshOvki: I did that.
[09:43] <JoshOvki> ok, your buggered then
[09:43] <kiefer> Lmao
[09:43] <nuxil> use iwconfig :p
[09:43] <Thecks> eth1 (wireless) shows up without a problem, just doesn't detect anything.
[09:44] <kiefer> Thecks: does any interface starting with 'wlan' show when you do 'ifconfig' ?
[09:44] <ahmed> thanks everybody vlc worked fine
[09:44] <Thecks> -
[09:44] <Thecks> eth1      unassociated  ESSID:off/any
[09:44] <Thecks>           Mode:Managed  Channel=0  Access Point: Not-Associated
[09:44] <kiefer> Np ahmed :)
[09:44] <Thecks> kiefer: Nope.
[09:44] <ahmed> i think i have to reinstall smplayer
[09:44] <ahmed> thanks
[09:44] <Thecks> lo, eth0 and eth1
[09:45] <kiefer> Thecks: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid YOUR_ESSID_NAME
[09:45] <kiefer> Try that, and then do 'iwconfig' whhat does it say?
[09:45] <JoshOvki> in terminal run sudo iwconfig    what does mode come back as?
[09:45] <Thecks> mode: Managed
[09:45] <kiefer> Im trying to remember what I did to solve it when that happened to me lmao
[09:46] <Thecks> Kiefer, same as before, now just with an ESSID
[09:46] <kiefer> Thecks: Alrighty, What wireless model/brand is it?
[09:46] <kiefer> Thecks: and has your wireless worked before?
[09:46] <Thecks> kiefer: Yup, before I messed with the Manual config :p
[09:46] <nuxil> try iwconfig ethX  essid "ROUTER-MAC" key "yourkey" or iwconfig ethX ap bssid "wifiname" key "yourkey"
[09:46] <Thecks> Intel PRO2000 or something?
[09:47] <Thecks> nuxil: But that will tie it to that router no?
[09:47] <nuxil> yes
[09:47] <Thecks> I want it to detect them so I can tell it which one to connect to :p
[09:47] <JoshOvki> thecks: have you double checked that file?
[09:47] <kiefer> nuxil : isnt it sudo iwconfig ethx ap MAC_ADDRESS ?
[09:47] <Thecks> auto eth1
[09:47] <Thecks> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[09:47] <Thecks> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[09:47] <nuxil> yes sudo first
[09:47] <Thecks> uhmm...
[09:48] <kiefer> Brb, I need a smoke :)
[09:48] <Thecks> I'll try delete it all and see what happens I guess
[09:48] <kiefer> backup first
[09:48] <Thecks> Is it OK to just restart x? or do I need to restart the system?
[09:48] <JoshOvki> system
[09:48] <JoshOvki> so it reloads all the modules
[09:49] <nuxil> iwlist eth2 scanning to find wifi nets
[09:49] <nuxil> *eth1
[09:49] <Thecks> nuxil: That works fine
[09:49] <Thecks> Just why doesn't KNetworkManager see them?
[09:50] <nuxil> i dont know.. i have same problem..
[09:50] <Thecks> Lol
[09:50] <nuxil> i have to use cli
[09:51] <Thecks> Maybe it wasn't messing with config - perhaps an update? :o
[09:51] <kiefer> Thecks: Im sure there would be a way to reset to defaults in KNetworkManager, Tried google? :)
[09:51] <kiefer> I would try for you, but im on slow wireless
[09:51] <JoshOvki> nuxil: whats in your  /etc/network/interfaces   file?    thecks did you try clearing out and restarting?
[09:52] <Thecks> kiefer: I am Googleing at the moment, now that we've narrowed it down to only KNetworkManager
[09:53] <Thecks> JoshOvki: Googleing :)
[09:53] <nuxil> Josh0viki right now its empty. cos i set it up manualy. been trying all sort of stuff to get the gui configuration to work,, but i gave up.. i dont realy need it. i manage fine in cli :)
[09:53] <kiefer> Thecks: Let me know if you find anything. as i wouldnt mind using KNetworkManager again :)
[09:53] <nuxil> i just use a script to set up the wifi
[09:53] <kiefer> Okay, Now I have a problem lol, Whenever I try to play a .ogg/.mp3/Audio CD, All i get is some sharp feedback, an ear peircing sound, any suggestions?
[09:54] <JoshOvki> dont listen to music
[09:54] <kiefer> So,,, Dont live? lol
[09:54] <JoshOvki> lol
[09:54] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, I have been trying to change my kdm theme for the past 2 hours and looking on the web for help.  Can someone help me with this?
[09:55] <JoshOvki> kiefer: wat program?
[09:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> changing it with kdm theme manager doesn't work.
[09:55] <kiefer> gundam: www.kde-look.org
[09:55] <kiefer> Josh: Kaffene and Amarok
[09:55] <gundam_rx78nt1> kiefer, they only tell you to use kdm theme manager.   Handy, eh?
[09:56] <Thecks> Anyway, you can get it back to auto-config by doing:
[09:56] <gundam_rx78nt1> kiefer, if you read what I posted, I have tried to change the theme with kdm theme manager and nothing changes, it stay with the default loging page.
[09:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> I believe that it is a bug.
[09:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> Now, does anybody here have managed to change the kdm theme?
[09:57] <gundam_rx78nt1> On gutsy?
[09:57] <kiefer> Thecks: lmao, awsome *sarcasm*
[09:57] <kiefer> gundam: yep, me
[09:58] <AMcBain> I made my Windows look green.  LOL.
[09:58] <kiefer> Lolll
[09:58] <AMcBain> I LIKE green.
[09:58] <gundam_rx78nt1> I noticed.
[09:58] <sandhya> I have onboard audio which I had trouble configuring for mic usage. So I've added in a PCI sound card and disabled the onboard audio in the BIOS.
[09:59] <sandhya> My PCI card is being detected fine as a YAMAHA. But I don't get any audio, leave alone test the mic.
[09:59] <Thecks> BRB!
[09:59] <sandhya> Any idea how I can reset things?
[09:59] <kiefer> josh: do you know where i can track down any linux audio drivers?
[10:00] <gigui> GOED MORGEN
[10:01] <kiefer> O.O
[10:01] <nuxil> god morgen
[10:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> gutten morgen gigui
[10:01] <AMcBain> I think it was supposed to be "good morning" but it's too early for that ...
[10:01] <JoshOvki> kiefer, no sorry. worked out of the box did it?
[10:01] <AMcBain> (I really want to go to bed, but this thing won't work right)
[10:02] <gigui> wet iemand hoe kan ik een fout van adept maneger repareren?
[10:02] <kiefer> Josh: worked with ubuntu 7.10, when i switched to kubuntu it stopped working
[10:02] <gigui> signaal: 6 (sigabrt)
[10:02] <gundam_rx78nt1> kiefer, I found that there is a bug in the kdm theme manager, now if I can find a way to change it... what did you do?
[10:02] <AMcBain> segfalt? uhoh
[10:03] <sandhya> The sound card is a Yamaha YMF740 chipset
[10:03] <JoshOvki> hmmm, did you reinstall to kubuntu or just   apt-get install kubunti-desktop?
[10:03] <JoshOvki> without the spelling mistake
[10:03] <kiefer> gundam: it worked without change for me
[10:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> !kdm
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> !kdm theme manager
[10:03] <kiefer> josh: used live cd to install kubuntu 7.10, over entire Hdd
[10:03] <travkin> JoshOvki: not kubunti but kubuntu ;)
[10:04] <sandhya> !sound
[10:04] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:04] <JoshOvki> travkin, i did say without the spelling miskae :P
[10:05] <gundam_rx78nt1> !kdm theme
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm theme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <travkin> !travkin
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about travkin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <kiefer> wb thecks.
[10:06] <Thecks> Awesome!
[10:06] <Thecks> Cleared out my interfaces file, works!
[10:06] <Thecks> Have to restart your system though, restarting x doesn't do it.
[10:06] <JoshOvki> :) i said that ages ago
[10:06] <Thecks> Yeah, thought I might try it just to be certain though :)
[10:06] <kiefer> Thecks: Awesome, I might try that when i get sick of configuring my wifi through konsole lol
[10:06] <Thecks> Lol
[10:07] <JoshOvki> if all else fails listen to me
[10:07] <kiefer> Lmao
[10:07] <kiefer> listening to you is what causes all else to fail
[10:07] <kiefer> lol jk :)
[10:07] <Thecks> Yakuake rules kiefer, so you have to do it through that =p
[10:07] <gundam_rx78nt1> Thecks, wouldn't sudo /etc/init.d/network restart work?
[10:07] <Thecks> gundam_rx78nt1: Don't know :)
[10:07] <JoshOvki> ha ha ha ¬¬
[10:07] <gundam_rx78nt1> Yakuake rules
[10:08] <gundam_rx78nt1> Thecks, I do believe so.
[10:08] <Thecks> gundam_rx78nt1: I know you'd need to restart KNetworkManager as well
[10:08] <Thecks> Alright, BRB. Adding this laptop to wireless network :)
[10:08] <mark__> is there a way to clone my install onto a pen drive?
[10:09] <kiefer> ugh, when i play an audio file, it plays fine for 10-15 seconds then makes that sharp feedback sound that hurts my ears
[10:09] <JoshOvki> kiefer: what are you listening to?
[10:10] <JoshOvki> or not as the case maby be
[10:10] <kiefer> Josh: just tried a cd - happens with all audio files though, works for 10-15 seconds then just the hurting sound (lolll)
[10:11] <JoshOvki> odd to play at start then thats it.  what music is it?
[10:11] <kiefer> Trance? lol
[10:12] <JoshOvki> that explains it :P
[10:12] <mark__> lol
[10:12] <nuxil> Thecks install kommander and make your own simple gui configuration.. kommander "kmdr" is super simple for this kind of stuff
[10:12] <JoshOvki> its screaming in pain
[10:12] <kiefer> Haha
[10:12] <kiefer> Happens with Rap also
[10:13] <JoshOvki> i agree with ur system still :P
[10:13] <kiefer> haha wiseguy
[10:13] <JoshOvki> does it happen with films?
[10:13] <kiefer> Havnt tried
[10:13] <mark__> how do i list my attached drives in terminal?
[10:13] <kiefer> Havnt had a chance to download any por... uhhh.. movies :)
[10:14] <JoshOvki> lol
[10:14] <JoshOvki> does youtube videos sound work ok?
[10:14] <kiefer> Havnt had a chance to install por.. uhh.. flash player :)
[10:15] <JoshOvki> try playing the cd in vlc
[10:15] <kiefer> Kk, 1 sec
[10:15] <JoshOvki> (my answer to nearly everything)
[10:15] <kiefer> lmfao
[10:15] <kiefer> Where do i find vlc?
[10:16] <JoshOvki> two options:    a. empty out your /etc/network/interfaces    b. try vlc
[10:16] <JoshOvki> sudo apt-get install vlc
[10:16] <kiefer> LMAO
[10:16] <kiefer> cheers
[10:16] <JoshOvki> and it should show up in multimedia  when its finished
[10:16] <Thecks_> Wireless!
[10:17] <kiefer> E: Couldn't find package vlc, Any other names the package may be under?
[10:17] <JoshOvki> thecks_ would have bee sorted ages ago if u had listened
[10:17] <kiefer> Thecks: sucess?
[10:17] <Thecks_> JoshOvki: I did listen :)
[10:17] <Thecks_> kiefer: Yup.
[10:17] <JoshOvki> eventualy
[10:17] <JoshOvki> :P
[10:17] <kiefer> Thecks: nice :D
[10:17] <JoshOvki> kiefer what repositorys you got enabled?
[10:18] <kiefer> josh, im a linux noob, i have no idea :)
[10:18] <nuxil> Thecks_ do you know bash scripting ?
[10:18] <JoshOvki> kiefer:  read      http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[10:18] <AMcBain> Kubuntu should enable multiverse and universe (gee ... I wonder) by default.
[10:18] <kiefer> Josh: will do, cheers :)
[10:20] <Thecks_> nuxil: Not really - I know a guy who's great at it though. Why do you ask?
[10:21] <nuxil> Theck if you know a bit bash and have kommander installed you can get your own knetwork manager up and running in 30 min..
[10:21] <nuxil> by using iw***** tools
[10:22] <Thecks_> nuxil: I roam quite a bit, so having a GUI based approach is what I prefer :)
[10:24] <nuxil> Thecks if your online later and have not gotten it to work,,. i'll see if i have time to make a kdmr script so you and me can get gui config for wifi.
[10:27] <kumba> hi
[10:27] <kumba> anyone
[10:27] <JoshOvki> hi
[10:27] <kumba> this is interesting
[10:27] <kumba> i just installed this os
[10:28] <JoshOvki> cant you just type on one line?
[10:28] <JoshOvki> its harder to read line by line sorry
[10:28] <kumba> so what kind of chatting room is this?
[10:28] <kumba> i see...
[10:28] <JoshOvki> its a support room
[10:28] <jussi01> !guidelines | kumba
[10:28] <ubotu> kumba: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:29] <JoshOvki> #kubuntu-offtopic   is the offtopic room
[10:29] <andrea_> ciao
[10:29] <kumba> Thanks Josh
[10:29] <jussi01> !it | andrea_
[10:29] <ubotu> andrea_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:30] <andrea_> oh, sorry.thanks
[10:30] <jussi01> :)
[10:33] <JoshOvki> god its cold here
[10:34] <kiefer> agree'd
[10:34] <kiefer> :)
[10:34] <JoshOvki> how does vlc work?
[10:34] <JoshOvki> (no sarcastic answers from anyone)
[10:34] <kiefer> Lmao
[10:35] <kiefer> Just updating my repositorys now
[10:35] <jpatrick> !vlc | JoshOvki
[10:35] <ubotu> JoshOvki: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[10:35]  * JoshOvki slaps jpatrick
[10:35] <jpatrick> ...
[10:35] <kiefer> rofl
[10:35] <Thecks> Ahh got a question for you guys...
[10:36] <kiefer> Shoot
[10:36] <Thecks> Sometimes when trying to play music, I'll get a error saying that the audio is already in use..
[10:36] <JoshOvki> jpatrick: i said no sarcastic answers ;) i know how it works, i was asking kiefer is it working :)
[10:36] <kiefer> and is it?
[10:36] <Thecks> Well, nothing else will be playing, but doesn't mean it's not in use.
[10:37] <Thecks> But then why should it matter if an application is making a sound, they should both be able to use the audio right?
[10:37] <JoshOvki> Thcks which media player?
[10:37] <Thecks> Amarok
[10:37] <JoshOvki> hmmm
[10:37] <JoshOvki> VLC? ;)   (jk)
[10:37] <AMcBain> hmmm
[10:37] <Thecks> Naw, I love Amarok
[10:37] <AMcBain> !sudo
[10:37] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[10:38] <JoshOvki> Thecks same here, im using it now. Ummmm, do the files work some times but not others, or do the same files always fail?
[10:39] <Thecks> I don't think it's a case of the files failing
[10:39] <Thecks> As if I kill Amarok restart (sometimes have to do it twice) it will work again
[10:39] <Thecks> So maybe it's just Amarok
[10:39] <Thecks> But then it never used to either
[10:40] <Thecks> Now I can't get it to make the error come up hah
[10:40] <JoshOvki> lol
[10:40] <JoshOvki> sods law
[10:40] <Thecks> Yup
[10:41] <JoshOvki> you check the error on amarok's site?
[10:42] <Thecks> No, it didn't seem to be an Amarok error though
[10:42] <JoshOvki> oh ok
[10:43] <JoshOvki> what version of amarok you using?
[10:43] <steff> System sound (warnings etc) has disappeared. I had disabilited all of them in control panel and know there's no way back. On the other account they work fine. Anybody knowes where kde store this config? Thanks for help.
[10:43] <ubuntu> hello guys
[10:44] <Thecks> Hello
[10:44] <ubuntu> testing kubuntu , i love it at the first try
[10:44] <JoshOvki> steff its in   /home/USER/.kde
[10:44] <ubuntu> who can help me making a dual boot?
[10:45] <JoshOvki> right my girlfriend is pulling my leg to make me go to hers, so i will be back soonish
[10:45] <steff> I know but I searched the entire folder without results
[10:45] <kiefer> bye bye josh
[10:45] <kiefer> have fun ;)
[10:45] <ubuntu> can smoeone help me?
[10:46] <kiefer> ubuntu: what are you looking to duel boot with?
[10:46] <kiefer> like, what other OS?
[10:46] <Thecks> ubuntu: It was simple for me, just installed it on a separate partition and let grub do the rest.
[10:46] <JoshOvki> !grub
[10:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:46] <ubuntu> I have windows xp on C partition , and 2 more partitions
[10:46] <ubuntu> and i want to installkubuntu too
[10:46] <ubuntu> but without harming other partitions
[10:46] <jpatrick> !dualboot | ubuntu
[10:46] <ubotu> ubuntu: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[10:46] <JoshOvki> install kubuntu onto one of the empty partitions, grub will do the rest
[10:47] <kiefer> kubuntu installer offers the option of installing on a paticular partition
[10:47] <ubuntu> I dont have other partition
[10:47] <ubuntu> empty partition , that is
[10:47] <kiefer> josh, goto your gf's you loaner >_>
[10:47] <JoshOvki> kiefer im not a loaner she is here with me. who are you with?:P
[10:47] <kiefer> haha, wise guy aye
[10:47] <ubuntu> so?
[10:48] <ubuntu> what can i do
[10:48] <JoshOvki> bye all. bye kiefer (you loaner ;) )
[10:48] <kiefer> josh: lmao, peace loaner boy
[10:48] <kiefer> ubuntu, have you ran the kubuntu installer?
[10:49] <kiefer> it should ask you which partition you wish to install kubuntu on :)
[10:50] <kiefer> Bbs all, Im going to watch a movie :)
[11:18] <bitmonster> hi, can anyone help me setting up my display drivers, the ubuntu channel was not helpful unfortunately
[11:19] <bitmonster> they are always reset to low res
[11:19] <jussi01> bitmonster: are you on ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:19] <bitmonster> I'm on ubuntu
[11:19] <jussi01> bitmonster: which graphics card do you have?
[11:19] <bitmonster> ati mobility 7500
[11:19] <bitmonster> radeon
[11:19] <jussi01> !ati | bitmonster you have read this?
[11:19] <ubotu> bitmonster you have read this?: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:20] <ubuntu_> Hey again
[11:20] <ubuntu_> can someone help me?
[11:20] <ubuntu_> on PM please
[11:20] <ubuntu_> :)
[11:21] <jpatrick> ubuntu_: why not here? :)
[11:21] <Dr_willis> Why do we need a PM>
[11:21] <ubuntu_> i already clicked ok lol
[11:21] <ubuntu_> so i want dual boot
[11:21] <ubuntu_> kunbutu - linux
[11:21] <ubuntu_> and now i selected my 100gb paritition
[11:21] <ubuntu_> and im resizing it to
[11:21] <ubuntu_> 92639
[11:21] <ubuntu_> thats 92gb
[11:21] <ubuntu_> then iwill have ~10gb left
[11:21] <ubuntu_> no?
[11:22] <bitmonster> ah cool thanks
[11:22] <jussi01> !enter
[11:22] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:22] <bitmonster> the primary problem however is to get a higher resolution
[11:22] <bitmonster> will this driver solve this issue already?
[11:22] <ubuntu_> so no one can help me?
[11:23] <Dr_willis> ive totally mised what the problem really was...
[11:23] <ubuntu_> So.. I have a 250 GB HDD , with 3 partitions
[11:23] <Dr_willis> Install the proper video card driver for your video card.
[11:23] <ubuntu_> C : Windows , D : Games , E : Apps.
[11:23] <ubuntu_> And now i want to install Kubuntu too , but i don't have unpartitioned.
[11:23] <ubuntu_> And i want to make Dual boot.
[11:24] <jussi01> bitmonster: it should, yes
[11:24] <ubuntu_> What can i do?
[11:24] <Dr_willis> You will need to do some moveing around of your partitions ,
[11:24] <jpatrick> !dualboot  | ubuntu_
[11:24] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[11:24] <Dr_willis> and resize them some
[11:24] <jussi01> !fixres > bitmonster
[11:24] <ubuntu_> Jpatrick , i already read that
[11:24] <jussi01> bitmonster: that page may alo be helpful
[11:24] <ubuntu_> but i still can't do nothing
[11:25] <ubuntu_> I am at my first kubuntu install
[11:25] <ubuntu_> so..
[11:25] <ubuntu_> wanted to dual boot...
[11:25] <ubuntu_> but i cant ..
[11:25] <_Angelus_> guys i have a problem about power saving
[11:26] <ubuntu_> brb
[11:26] <Dr_willis> having 3 partitions allready. make installing a litlte harder also.
[11:26] <sjck> Hey, can I somehow set the viewmode detailed list view add as standard view in konq?
[11:26] <ubuntu_> yea
[11:26] <Dr_willis> You might want to move your apps over to  the other drives. to free up a partition.
[11:27] <_Angelus_> fwhats the differece beetween suspend and standby and hibernation. and why i only have the option to switch of the monitor in the power saving tab...
[11:27] <ubuntu_> my partitions are ntfs
[11:27] <ubuntu_> brb
[11:27] <Dr_willis> ubuntu_,  of course they are. :) linux goes on its own partitions. which are ext3.
[11:27] <ubuntu_> yea
[11:27] <ubuntu_> now i tryed to edit a partition
[11:27] <ubuntu_> the apps one
[11:28] <ubuntu_> it locked at scanning disks...
[11:28] <ubuntu_> :\
[11:28] <Dr_willis> what locked up?
[11:28] <jussi01> ubuntu_: it takes a minute or 2 to scan the disks
[11:28] <ubuntu_> a minute or 2?
[11:28] <JoshOvki> yo
[11:28] <ubuntu_> i think 5 minutes +
[11:28] <Dr_willis> vista can resize ntfs paritions. also.
[11:28] <ubuntu_> i don't have vista
[11:28] <ubuntu_> Xp sp 2
[11:29] <_Angelus_> somebody answers me
[11:29] <ubuntu_> im going to reboot
[11:29] <ubuntu_> brb
[11:29] <jussi01> ubuntu_: also, be sure you have defragmented a few times be for partitioning - other wise you may have data loss
[11:29] <ubuntu_> ok
[11:29] <ubuntu_> im gonna reboot brb
[11:29] <JoshOvki> _Angelus_ : Demanding someone to answer you wont make people answer you
[11:29] <Dr_willis> _Angelus_,  powersaving can be a very big hassle.   thats about all i know about it. :)
[11:29] <ubuntu_> brb
[11:29] <JoshOvki> _Angelus_: whats the problem (as i wasnt here for the question)?
[11:32] <_Angelus_> JoshOvki:  when  i go to System Settings, and monitor and display, and power saving, the only option i have is to set the time when monitor turns off, but i dont havethe option to set the timer when computer goes in standby mode .
[11:33] <_Angelus_> when i go to K menu , logout, i have the option to suspend , and to hibernate, which i dont know  what suspend is if its the same as sleep or standby
[11:34] <Xcell> America needs help: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3MzShg7yXik no pun intended, play it loud.
[11:35] <JoshOvki> _Angelus_ : Unforinutaly kubuntu doesnt support power saving aswell as windblows
[11:36] <_Angelus_> JoshOvki:  on Archlinux i had the options to set when my computer goes to standby , when to hibernate, and when to turn off the monitor, i dont think that kubuntu doesnt have this, RIGHT? :?
[11:37] <Dr_willis> it may be due to some kernel differeances that the same power saving features are not enabled
[11:38] <kiefer> Josh: Installing vlc now :)
[11:38] <JoshOvki> It is a feature that has never been built into kubuntu. its available in ubuntu
[11:38] <Dr_willis> often powersaving features can be  limited depending on the bios features.
[11:38] <JoshOvki> kiefer: cool, took a looktime
[11:38] <kiefer> josh: lol, i was wathcing bruce almighty
[11:38] <kiefer> watching*
[11:38]  * Dr_willis is watching Astro Boy...
[11:39] <kiefer> oooh nice
[11:39] <Dr_willis> Its... weird in ways. :P
[11:39] <_Angelus_> kubuntu has the option to put to computer to standby/suspend/sleep JoshOvki , its from Kmenu > logout > suspend. but what i need is the option to set a timer for it.
[11:39] <kiefer> Girls Ahoy - Best anime ever :)
[11:39] <Dr_willis> Not seen that one.. I proberly would get in trouble with the wife for watching that one.
[11:40] <kiefer> Lmaoooo, Its a tad racey, though most japanese anime is (trying to stay on topic lol)
[11:40] <jussi01> !ot
[11:40] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:40] <kiefer> how subtle.. :)
[11:41] <Dr_willis> Astro boy runs Ubuntu! I just know it! :P
[11:41] <kiefer> Rofl
[11:41] <kiefer> Okay, back on topic now, dont wanna get in trouble ^_^
[11:41] <kiefer> but yeah willis, i recomend it :)
[11:42] <JoshOvki> _Angelus_ it cant find anyway of getting it to run when your system is idle sorry
[11:43] <_Angelus_> i didnt understand JoshOvki
[11:46] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: it's in power manager: "When the system is idle for more than X min"
[11:48] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: Do you need more detailed help in finding it?
[11:48] <JoshOvki> i could google this but i would rather get your recommendations. Whats the best program for burning DVD's?
[11:49] <JoshOvki> as in film DVD's
[11:49] <_Angelus_> yes Lynoure where the power manager?
[11:49] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: click on the battery icon
[11:49] <_Angelus_> i dont have a battry icon in system settings :/
[11:50] <jussi01> JoshOvki: my preference is vlc
[11:50] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: it has separate options for Mains powered and battery powered.
[11:50] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: tray, not system settings
[11:50] <JoshOvki> jussi01, you can burn with VLC?
[11:50] <_Angelus_> Lynoure:  im not using a laptop
[11:50] <jussi01> JoshOvki: oops, sorry, read worng
[11:51] <JoshOvki> jussi01: dont worrie about it. human error an all :P
[11:51] <jussi01> !info devede
[11:51] <ubotu> devede (source: devede): program to create video DVDs. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.13-0.0 (gutsy), package size 741 kB, installed size 1700 kB
[11:51] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: hmm, then I'm not sure but you could install kde-guidance-powermanager and see what happens
[11:51] <jussi01> JoshOvki: ^^
[11:52] <Dr_willis> i was using devede earlier today. :) works decently well. the menus it makes are not al that fancy but it works
[11:54] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: I have never tried it on desktop, myself
[11:54] <_Angelus_> Lynoure: does suspend stand for standby in kubuntu? causei have to options when im logging out, suspend and hibernation
[11:56] <solid_liq> _Angelus_, you can set it this way:  sudo echo "runlevel 0" | at now + 4 min
[11:56] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: suspend stands for suspend to ram
[11:56] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: hibernate is suspend to disk
[11:57] <Lynoure> solid_liq: that does not take idle vs active into account
[11:58] <_Angelus_> hmm
[11:58] <solid_liq> it will
[11:58] <_Angelus_> Lynoure: but is suspend to ram and standby mode the same thing?
[11:59] <Lynoure> solid_liq: hmm, I don't see how it would.
[11:59] <solid_liq> no, standby is suspend to disk
[11:59] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: I'm not sure what standby mode you mean...
[11:59] <solid_liq> er
[12:00] <_Angelus_> Lynoure: well on some distros and windows, there is an option to go to standby mode
[12:00] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: Tell me what it does, and I can tell you if it is the same. :)
[12:00] <_Angelus_> thats the problem Lynoure, i dont know if its the same
[12:01] <_Angelus_> uhmm , did you ever put your television in standby mode?
[12:01] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: ok, tell me what you'd want it to do, then :)
[12:01] <_Angelus_> i think its similar
[12:01] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: no image and still responds to remote... no idea how that would translate to computers
[12:02] <Lynoure> Never used one with a remote
[12:03] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: hibernate writes the situation on the system onto the disk, it takes about as long as boot to recover. suspend to ram writes it to ram, takes couple of seconds to recover.
[12:04] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: Staying in hibernation takes no electricity, staying in suspend to ram take a little, as the memory takes some electricity to keep. You can decide which one you want, or even experiment.
[12:06] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: on many systems neither work out of the box, so you want to be careful about having files saved when experimenting
[12:06] <_Angelus_> Lynoure: both worked here, i just tried them 2mins ago
[12:06] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: good :)
[12:07] <_Angelus_> Lynoure: windows has standby mode if im not wrong, and even archlinux
[12:07] <_Angelus_> not sure dough
[12:07] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: I don't use Windows much, nor Archlinux, sorry
[12:07] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: but the descriptions of what these do should be enough to let you choose.
[12:07] <_Angelus_> i'll just use suspend to ram then
[12:08] <_Angelus_> its faster, and saves energy , and components life.
[12:09] <Lynoure> _Angelus_: all good reasons
[12:09] <_Angelus_> yeah :)
[12:13] <JoshOvki> is it really that difficult to find a program to burn a film to DVD :S
[12:13] <neville_> K3B?
[12:14] <jussi01> JoshOvki: what was wrong with devede?
[12:14] <JoshOvki> tryed it, but something missing, i could go hunting for the missing file but im lazy
[12:14] <Dr_willis> i used that devded program just earlier today. :)
[12:14] <Dr_willis> it dosent 'burn' it makes the dvd iso image ready for you to burn. technically. :P
[12:14] <jussi01> Dr_willis: I dont remember, do you need dvd2css for burning dvds?
[12:15] <Dr_willis> jussi01,  not tthat i know of.  I instgalled a bunch of packages.. so its hard to tell heh.
[12:15] <JoshOvki> jussi01: ive not got 7gb of disk space free for it to make the iso to :P
[12:15] <Dr_willis> JoshOvki,  sucks to be you then. :)
[12:15] <JoshOvki> Dr_willis sucks to be me when im trying to burn to DVD anyway
[12:15] <Dr_willis> Free up some space.
[12:16] <Dr_willis> I only got 4gb dvd disks - dual layer is to expensive.
[12:16] <benji_> y as des francais
[12:16] <benji_> ????
[12:16] <benji_> houhou
[12:16] <Dr_willis> !fr
[12:16] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:17] <JoshOvki> i could boot into windblow nd use nero
[12:17] <benji_> ok
[12:20] <benji_> snif y a pesonne sur kubuntu fr
[12:21] <benji_> y a quelqun  ici
[12:23] <andrei> he guys
[12:23] <andrei> i am back:)
[12:23] <andrei> installed kubuntu
[12:23] <andrei> i still have some  questions..
[12:23] <andrei> who can help?
[12:24] <mau> is there a way to import my ratings from an ipod to amarok?
[12:26] <benji_> plzzzzzz y as qqq1
[12:27] <jussi01> andrei: ask!
[12:27] <jussi01> benji_: type: /join #kubuntu-fr
[12:27] <andrei> i installed it
[12:27] <andrei> and restarted from the button
[12:27] <andrei> now i can't see the ntfs partitions
[12:27] <andrei> and i got admin rights..got into the control panel
[12:27] <andrei> tryed to enable partitions
[12:27] <andrei> and it says there wasnt clean shutdown
[12:28] <andrei> so this is why..
[12:28] <jussi01> !enter
[12:28] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:28] <andrei> ok sorry :)
[12:28] <jussi01> andrei: so go back into windows, and shut down correctly :)
[12:28] <JoshOvki> you will have to boot into windows
[12:28] <JoshOvki> shutdown proply (via   Start > Shutdown
[12:28] <JoshOvki> then boot back into linux and all should be well
[12:29] <andrei> ok, thanks:) brb then
[12:29] <JoshOvki> is my IRC sending messagesprobly?:P
[12:29] <JoshOvki> *proply
[12:31] <hola> some one knows how to share ppp0 connection between host and client created with virtual box
[12:39] <jussi01> JoshOvki: they look fine to me
[12:41] <JoshOvki> jussi01: thanks :)
[12:42] <hola> jussi01: ciaoo
[12:48] <avvie> hello everyone
[12:48] <avvie> can someone tell me how to install the xlibs-dev package?
[12:49] <jussi01> !find xlibs
[12:49] <ubotu> Found: xlibs-static-dev, xlibs-data
[12:50] <avvie> static-dev doesn't work for i what i need it
[12:50] <avvie> :S
[12:50] <avvie> i am trying to install baghira
[12:51] <jussi01> avvie: baghira is in the repos
[12:51] <jussi01> !info baghira
[12:51] <ubotu> Package baghira does not exist in gutsy
[12:52] <jussi01> !info kwin-baghira
[12:52] <ubotu> kwin-baghira (source: baghira): KDE theme for Apple junkies :). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-1 (gutsy), package size 750 kB, installed size 2132 kB
[12:52] <avvie> thank u very much
[12:52] <avvie> i have tried install baghira
[12:53] <avvie> but I didn't think of kwin
[13:08] <benji> voila
[13:08] <avvie> !info baghira-sidebar
[13:08] <ubotu> Package baghira-sidebar does not exist in gutsy
[13:08] <avvie> damn
[13:09] <benji> kubuntu fr
[13:09] <benji> #kubuntu fr
[13:09] <benji> #kubuntufr
[13:18] <jan__> ?
[13:19] <jan__> test
[13:19] <bjwebb> hi there
[13:19] <bjwebb> ive added various repos to install things
[13:19] <bjwebb> but then rmoved some again
[13:19] <bjwebb> if there a way to list software installed through apt-get but is not in one of the currently added repos?
[13:20] <nosrednaekim> bjwebb: no.. but you can installl it using Gdebi
[13:21] <nosrednaekim> bjwebb: oh wait...NM, wrong answer
[13:21] <bjwebb> no, i mean software i have already installed
[13:21] <bjwebb> but removed the repo from my sources.list
[13:21] <nosrednaekim> bjwebb: yeah... I think you can do itin synaptic (the GTK frontend)
[13:22] <bjwebb> hmm, i was wondering about a cli way, but ill try synaptic
[13:22] <Problems_Install> hello! i need some help installing kubuntu
[13:22] <d123am> test
[13:22] <nosrednaekim> Problems_Install:whats wrong
[13:22] <Absurdo> call 911
[13:23] <Problems_Install> the problem is that wubi says i need a cd
[13:23] <bjwebb> nosrednaekim: thanks for that, thats just the list i want
[13:23] <nosrednaekim> Problems_Install: i'm not familiar with Wubi
[13:24] <Problems_Install> the windows based intaller
[13:25] <nosrednaekim> I know what it is, but I don't remember how it works
[13:25] <nosrednaekim> and never knew in the first time.
[13:25] <Problems_Install> o ok so how do you install it anyway?
[13:26] <nosrednaekim> install what?
[13:26] <Problems_Install> I want to get rid of windows to intall kubuntu
[13:26] <avvie> i instaled kwin-baghira but how do i activate the sidebar?
[13:26] <bitmonster> can anyone help me to install an ati radeon mobility 7500 for dual monitor use?
[13:26] <bitmonster> i just can't get it working ...
[13:26] <nosrednaekim> Problems_Install: then download the live installer CD
[13:27] <Problems_Install> i think i did but im not sure
[13:27] <Problems_Install> the one's i downloaded said kubuntu 7.10 alternate cd and desktop cd
[13:28] <andrei> hello again.
[13:28] <andrei> I have another question , how to install Compiz?
[13:29] <nosrednaekim> Problems_Install: you downloaded both of them?
[13:29] <nosrednaekim> !compiz | andrei
[13:29] <ubotu> andrei: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[13:29] <Problems_Install> yes
[13:30] <andrei> thanks.
[13:30] <avvie> how do i activate the sidebar in baghira?
[13:30] <nosrednaekim> Problems_Install: use the desktopCD
[13:31] <Problems_Install> ok what do i do in there? what program do i run?
[13:34] <andrei> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. - what this means?
[13:34] <nosrednaekim> Problems_Install: once you rebbot into that liveCD, you need just need to run the installer program
[13:35] <Problems_Install> i reboot and open that live cd?
[13:35] <Problems_Install> alright thanks a mil!!
[13:35] <andrei> i get that message when i try to run sudo apt-get update
[13:36] <andrei> does anybody know?
[13:37] <sveri> andrei: this means that somethin went wrong on installation process
[13:37] <nosrednaekim> andrei: did you try running dpkg --configure -a?
[13:37] <sveri> andrei: thats what i wanted to say :D
[13:38] <sveri> andrei: and dont forget sudo
[13:38] <andrei> yep and nothing happens.
[13:39] <sveri> andrei: what often helps me is a sudo apt-get -f install on broken installations
[13:39] <andrei> lol im new linux user..take me slow:)
[13:40] <sveri> simply try to enter it in console: "sudo apt-get -f install" without the "
[13:40] <andrei> managed to do something..now it says
[13:40] <andrei> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:40] <andrei>   compiz-kde: Depends: compiz-plugins (= 1:0.5.2+git20070918-0ubuntu5~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed
[13:40] <andrei> E: Broken packages
[13:40] <andrei> /bin/sh: compizconfig-settings-manager: not found
[13:40] <sveri> andrei: oh, the compiz things, there i am out of knowledge
[13:41] <sveri> andrei: do you have kde4 installed?
[13:43] <ForgeAus> hmmm... looks like I probably won't need Kubuntu if I get OSX
[13:44] <ForgeAus> but if I do say goodbye it will be with fond memories :)
[13:44] <nosrednaekim> andrei: don't install compiz-kde, just install compiz, all the compiz plugins, and emerald
[13:44] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus: :)
[13:44] <ForgeAus> the only problems I had with it were ones I created myself :)
[13:44] <ForgeAus> whats compiz-kde?
[13:45] <ForgeAus> hmm it'd be nice to see compiz put in fluxbox support too :)
[13:45] <sveri> hm, a friend of mine bought himself a macbook, i
[13:45] <sveri> 'd say its nice, but not linux :D
[13:45] <nosrednaekim> ForgeAus: its the compiz-fusion version of aquamarine
[13:46] <ForgeAus> well I guess I chould just get Yellowbox for NT but I don't think theres much software for it
[13:46] <lokpest> hi, I made kmplayer go into minimal mode, how do I reset?
[13:46] <lokpest> found it
[13:47] <kiefer> Lol
[13:47] <kiefer> That was easy :)
[13:50] <lokpest> another thing about kmplayer though; when I say thats it should dock in the kde tray and close the window, the program quits, I want it to do like other programs and go to dock
[13:50] <ForgeAus> hehe I thought Aquamarine was just a theme for the windowdecorator
[13:50] <yion> exit
[13:51] <benji> #kubuntu-fr
[14:05] <andrei> back..<nosrednaekim> are you here?
[14:08] <slnoff> привет всем
[14:10] <jussi01> !ru | slnoff
[14:10] <ubotu> slnoff: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[14:10] <andrei> who can help me again with compiz?
[14:11] <slnoff> s kodirovkoj chto-to?
[14:13] <slnoff> Ooops! com <> ru :)
[14:14] <slnoff> jussi01: are you russian?
[14:18] <squid0> hi. ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't open a tty terminal, but rather goes to workspace 1, and ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't kill X. I suspect this is kde keyboard settings. Can someone help me, please?
[14:20] <sascha_> hallo
[14:20] <sascha_> jemand der mir helfen kann
[14:20] <shampoo> moin
[14:21] <shampoo> *versteck*
[14:21] <jpatrick> !de | sascha_
[14:21] <ubotu> sascha_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[14:21] <laslavic> I can't seem to be able to make it so that Firefox starts maximized. Does anybody else have this issue, or know how to get Firefox to start maximized?
[14:21] <sascha_> niemand da?
[14:28] <bitmonster> can anyone help me to get an ati radeon mobility 7500 card running on my ubuntu system ... nobody in the ubuntu channel seems to know how to solve this issue
[14:29] <shampoo> whats the mater?
[14:30] <shampoo> "only"3dacceleration?
[14:30] <shampoo> 3d-
[14:30] <bitmonster> not only ... that's a minor issue - i want something above low resolution
[14:30] <bitmonster> and dual monitor usage
[14:31] <bitmonster> it's no fun to google for solutions with 800x600 resolutions
[14:31] <shampoo> lol did you use ati oder flglx
[14:32] <bitmonster> it always goes back to vesa
[14:32] <bitmonster> what should i use?
[14:33] <shampoo> oh i mixed up