[08:53] <_Pete_> linux_galore: ok, but in Amarok's engine configuration pane the only available choice for engine is Xine, what should I install to get gstreamer there ?
[08:54] <DaSkreech> amarok-engines
[08:54] <linux_galore> _Pete_: theres a seperate amarok-gstreamer package
[08:54] <linux_galore> _Pete_: install amarok-engines
[08:54] <_Pete_> E: Couldn't find package amarok-gstreamer
[08:55] <_Pete_> now I start to think my sources.list is not correct
[08:55] <_Pete_> The system is orginally installed from some dapper beta cd
[08:55] <_Pete_> about 3months ago
[08:56] <linux_galore> think the amarok download page supports debian so you can add amarok to your sources.list file
[08:56] <_Pete_> so amarok-gstreamer is not available from standard ubuntu repos ?
[08:57] <linux_galore> _Pete_: not sure I downloaded the tarball and built it from scratch
[08:57] <homer77_> only amarok-engines and amarok-xine - even in altered repos
[08:57] <linux_galore> _Pete_: its called amarok-engines
[08:57] <_Pete_> I did:
[08:57] <_Pete_> # apt-get install amarok-engines
[08:57] <_Pete_> Reading package lists... Done
[08:57] <_Pete_> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:57] <_Pete_> The following extra packages will be installed:
[08:57] <_Pete_>   amarok-arts
[08:57] <_Pete_> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[08:58] <_Pete_>   amarok-arts amarok-engines
[08:58] <homer77_> linux_galore: I installed amarok-engines and still only can choose xine - dunno why
[08:59] <homer77_> oh! is amarok-arts needed for?
[09:03] <linux_galore> http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14beta3/pool-dapper/  shows amarok-gstreamer  weird
[09:04] <linux_galore> but the final stable its disapears
[09:04] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:04] <linux_galore> I suspect it was merged into a single package and if you dont see gstreamer you need to install some gstreamer stuff
[09:05] <linux_galore> dont use arts with amarok it blows
[09:06] <defrysk> http://www.superkaramba.com/ = expired :s
[09:06] <_Pete_> and what its this "some gstreamer stuff" exactly? :)
[09:06] <slow-motion> i wanted to install kubuntu from the cd, but it takes ages since kde has bootet
[09:07] <slow-motion> so it is impossible to start the installation program
[09:08] <linux_galore> GStreamer is a library that allows the construction of graphs of media-handling components, ranging from simple Ogg/Vorbis playback to complex audio (mixing) and video (non-linear editing) processing.
[09:09] <linux_galore> http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/
[09:09] <linux_galore> slow-motion: tells me you dont have enough resources
[09:10] <linux_galore> slow-motion: might want to try xubuntu
[09:10] <slow-motion> kubuntu was running from hd fine
[09:10] <azathoth> why is gam_server eating a load of my cpu time?
[09:10] <linux_galore> azathoth: something is crashed
[09:10] <azathoth> how can i find out what is crashed, and fix it?
[09:10] <linux_galore> azathoth: run ksysguard
[09:11] <linux_galore> sudo ksysguard
 slow-motion: might want to try xubuntu < that is what i'm downloading now
[09:11] <azathoth> where can i see what's crashed?
[09:11] <linux_galore> azathoth: in the second tab
[09:12] <linux_galore> azathoth: look for something using lots of system resources
[09:12] <linux_galore> azathoth: highlight it then click on the kill button
[09:12] <azathoth> well the only thing thats using my resources is the gam_server
[09:12] <azathoth> and i've tried killing it, but it keeps coming back
[09:12] <linux_galore> azathoth: then kill it
[09:13] <azathoth> i kill it, it pops right back and uses the same shedload of resources
[09:13] <linux_galore> azathoth: isnt the gam server a gnome thing
[09:13] <azathoth> dunno
[09:15] <linux_galore> azathoth: yeah its part of nautilus, god knows why your using that
[09:15] <azathoth> i'm not, i think i was just using some gnome apps
[09:16] <linux_galore> azathoth: I would say something is using gam_server thats why it keeps respawning
[09:27] <azathoth> how can i remove all gnome apps from my system and stick purely with kde? i started with an ubuntu install and changed to kde-desktop
[09:27] <azathoth> is there a simple way, or is it troublesome?
[09:27] <Hobbsee> !removegnome
[09:27] <ubotu> Hobbsee: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:29] <azathoth> ah crpa this, i'm rebooting :(
[09:34] <sanroque> hi
[09:34] <sanroque> how are u?
[09:51] <slow-motion> bbl
[10:02] <_jpierre> Hi. Can anyone recommend a program to upload photos for services like flickr, but not flickr?
[10:03] <scorp007> hi, i have a problem with my ati drivers not being used
[10:03] <scorp007> they seem to be installed just fine, but kde is still using mesa
[10:05] <scorp007> any ideas?
[10:07] <_jpierre> scorp007: not me mate sorry
[10:16] <stevekl> What plugin for firefox do I need to hear sound in ytmnd.com?
[10:16] <tj9991> quicktime
[10:16] <tj9991> if i remember correctly
[10:16] <tj9991> dont quote me on it though
[10:16] <tj9991> i just sweep the floors here
[10:17] <method|> does kubunut dapper measure up to ubuntu dapper is it still the bastard child like kubuntu breezy that ubuntu developers really dont care about?
[10:18] <rob> I'm finding Kubuntu pretty good
[10:18] <Zaire> naturally its kde
[10:18] <Zaire> kde=good lol
[10:18] <rob> I have done about an hour of tweaking to get it how I like it though
[10:18] <tj9991> we only beat it oncew a week
[10:19] <tj9991> sometimes we go light on it if it does the dishes and cleans the house
[10:19] <Zaire> Im liking Xubuntu dapper other then I can't get my nvidia driver to see the kernels sources
[10:20] <Zaire> actually Im finding Xubuntu to be more stable then kubuntu a friend of mine said its prob cause xfce isn't as heavy as far as environments go
[10:27] <pussfeller> considering kubuntu market share vs ubuntu, its pretty damn good
[10:28] <pussfeller> altho I have found myself using gnome lately.....
[10:28] <crimsun> Zaire: you only need linux-headers-$(uname -r), not linux-source
[10:28] <Zaire> trust me I got the headers and the driver is asking for source
[10:29] <Zaire> it wants the source tree
[10:29] <pussfeller> you are using restricted-modules?
[10:29] <crimsun> since when did it want the tree? That's retarded as all.
[10:30] <Zaire> don't ask me just going off of what the nvidia driver asks for and it seems it can't find the kernel source tree and its haulting the dirver
[10:33] <Zaire> ooook then well if anything the synaptic package manager has a better search parameter then adept does lol
[10:33] <Zaire> I think I may have found the source tree
[10:33] <pussfeller> i was deleting 1.5 gigs out of var/cache/apt/archives today and I thot, what a waste... why aren't debs shared by p2p somehow
[10:34] <Zaire> why would they need to be most of what you need can be downloaded and installed via aptget lol
[10:35] <pussfeller> right, but that puts load on servers and requires centrallymanaged bandwidth that someone has to pay for
[10:35] <Zaire> true
[10:35] <Zaire> p2p is kinda outdated though bittorrent would be better
[10:36] <pussfeller> you still use apt-get, but a portion of your actually dl would come from other users adn then checked against the md5 sums
[10:36] <pussfeller> it would be slower, probably...
[10:36] <BazziR> incremental updates would be a start
[10:36] <BazziR> bsdiff *does* exist :)
[10:36] <Zaire> slower well yea probably and then it would be a matter of recoding the apt-get function aswell
[10:37] <pussfeller> with bt tho, unless its been changed, every file needs a torrent which could be unmanageably complex
[10:37] <aitor> hi
[10:38] <aitor> I found a problem since updated last friday to Dapper
[10:38] <aitor> flash movies randomly play or don't play sound in firefox
[10:38] <Zaire> not entirely the files could be added to other torrent sites such as mininova and piratebay and places like that wouldn't be that complex I would think
[10:38] <crimsun> aitor: install alsa-oss from universe, and use ``aoss firefox''
[10:39] <BazziR> Zaire: that'd be too much overhead, really.
[10:39] <BazziR> there are like 18000 packages
[10:39] <aitor> crimsum, as Firefox start command?
[10:39] <BazziR> and bt wont work for people behind strict firewall policies
[10:39] <pussfeller> it would have to be a deamon  that kept track of who had what somehow
[10:39] <crimsun> aitor: that's precisely the command.
[10:39] <BazziR> incremental updates is the way to go.
[10:40] <aitor> ok, I'l try it, thanks
[10:40] <Zaire> I use torrent for getting different distros of linux and Im behind a router and have strict policies
[10:40] <pussfeller> what do you mean BazziR
[10:40] <BazziR> pussfeller: binary diffs of the packages
[10:40] <Zaire> plus I don't port forward either
[10:40] <pussfeller> ah, where only the parts that are changed are dled and somehow merged?
[10:41] <BazziR> yes
[10:41] <pussfeller> like a par2 file :)
[10:41] <BazziR> or rtp :)
[10:42] <Zaire> damn Im know nothing about coding and I get that lol
[10:42] <aitor> crimsun, seems to work
[10:42] <aitor> many thanks
[10:43] <Zaire> I hope alot more work is done on Xubuntu anyway it seems to be very versitile and shows alot of promise
[10:43] <pussfeller> that is a pretty cool idea
[10:43] <pussfeller> you could save a ton of bandwidth
[10:43] <aitor> Zaire what desktop Manager does Xubuntu use?
[10:44] <Zaire> xfce
[10:44] <aitor> oh cool, heard many good things about xfce, though I've never tried it
[10:44] <pussfeller> but then people would have to keep the debs for it to work, longer then they would to just at least give back some of the bandwitch by a p2p system
[10:44] <Zaire> its not that bad other then there arent alot of programs installed on it but thats easy enough to fix and its compatibility seems to be enhanced
[10:45] <BazziR> pussfeller: if you reduce updates from 70mb to 7mb theres hardly much use for p2p
[10:45] <BazziR> people should rather seed the full cd/dvd torrents
[10:45] <Zaire> you mean theres still a use for p2p lol
[10:45] <pussfeller> but they have to keep all those debs around forever
[10:46] <BazziR> pussfeller, not necessarily.
[10:46] <BazziR> depends on if the diffs are on the debs or on the installed files.
[10:46] <pussfeller> hmmm
[10:46] <BazziR> for the latter I'd have the fear of more errors
[10:47] <BazziR> and the further would have the people keep the debs
[10:47] <BazziR> but a 56k user might still rather want to keep debs and download less
[10:47] <Zaire> oh yea and another cool thing with Xubuntu is it boots as a live cd and for installing it you just click on the install icon on the desktop and you can browse the net while you install it lol
[10:47] <pussfeller> and i suppse if bw was an issue for the end user, he would be glad to sacrifice the extra space
[10:48] <pussfeller> yeah, what you said :)
[10:49] <Zaire> now I wonder if I will be able to install UT 2004 lol
[10:49] <BazziR> I tested it, works, Zaire
[10:49] <BazziR> though it is a bit sucky :/
[10:50] <BazziR> (the installer at least)
[10:50] <Zaire> really Ive had such a hard time finding a version of linux that it works with
[10:50] <Zaire> redhat has good video for it but lacks the audio which I can't play it without audio
[10:51] <BazziR> what sort of system do you have?
[10:52] <Zaire> sempron64 3100+ 768 megs of ram 160 gig HD Nvidia Fx 5200 foxconn mobo totally custom modded case
[10:52] <pussfeller> Sysinfo for 'hokage': Linux 2.6.15-23-686 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: Pentium III (Coppermine) at 601 MHz (1203 bogomips), HD: 213/226GB, RAM: 279/375MB, 101 proc's, 4.55h up
[10:52] <BazziR> mmmh
[10:53] <Zaire> ouch 601 Mhz lol thats lower the my hyper transport lol
[10:53] <pussfeller> it ran like frozen sludge on my system
[10:53] <pussfeller> this is my flagship box
[10:53] <pussfeller> the pride of my fleet L)
[10:53] <Zaire> my proc cost me 140 bux mother baord $74 and ram $52
[10:54] <BazziR> I wont start with my system's specs then ;)
[10:54] <Zaire> really high lol I plan on building a new box soon
[10:55] <Zaire> its gonna have an  athlon64 dual core 4800+
[10:55] <pussfeller> if i hsdnt gotten a ticket the other day, i was going to buy an hp with dual 4200's and i think 2gs of ram for like 802 if i remember right
[10:55] <BazziR> my next horse will be core 2 duo powered :) bye bye AMD for this time
[10:56] <Qrawl> Mark Shuttleworth uses.... Kubuntu
[10:56] <Zaire> tsk tsk my excuse is Im unemployed lol
[10:56] <pussfeller> as well he should, its the bestest
[10:56] <Qrawl> Linus Torvalds uses.... KDE
[10:56] <Qrawl> KDE is best for beginners
[10:56] <BazziR> since when does mark shuttleworth use KDE?
[10:56] <Qrawl> I think KDE should be the default Window
[10:56] <Zaire> kde good but kubuntu unstable on my system so Im using xfce
[10:57] <pussfeller> yes, gnome needs to go the way of the dodo
[10:57] <Qrawl> BazziR, hold on, I'll get you a link
[10:57] <BazziR> he seems to be a bit moody :P
[10:57] <linux_galore> I use KDE and Ive been running Unix for years
[10:57] <linux_galore> 1983
[10:57] <linux_galore> I find gnome is more for newbies
[10:57] <pussfeller> gnome is the one for beginners
[10:57] <Zaire> brb gonna try installing my vidcard driver again lol
[10:58] <BazziR> kde can be *very* frustrating though
[10:58] <pussfeller> gnome is "easier" cause there is less choices
[10:58] <linux_galore> BazziR: never had an issue with it once i read up on how it all works
[10:58] <pussfeller> it seems to be faster too
[10:59] <_Pete_> pussfeller: In my machine I think there's little or no difference in speed between KDE / Gnome
[10:59] <Blizzz> is it (still?) true that kubuntu can read only from NTFS-partitions?
[10:59] <BazziR> linux_galore: the usability/accessibility of some programs is near zero. I have high hopes of KDE4 unifying and simplifying lots of the GUI...
[10:59] <linux_galore> been using kde now since 1.0 came out
[10:59] <Zaire> well that one bombed lol
[11:00] <pussfeller> nautilus loads new windows much faster than kde does for me
[11:00] <linux_galore> BazziR:  ?? whats zero
[11:00] <BazziR> 0 ;)
[11:00] <Zaire> its still asking for the kernel tree and I just installed the only file names kernel tree lol
[11:00] <pussfeller> why does gnome get all the love
[11:00] <linux_galore> pussfeller: thats because you didnt have the pre loader turned on in kde
[11:00] <pussfeller> WHY
[11:00] <linux_galore> pussfeller: for me konquror opens in less than 1 second
[11:00] <Qrawl> BazziR, babies born on 6-6-6 will definitely be in danger
[11:00] <Qrawl> OOPS
[11:00] <Qrawl> wrong post
[11:01] <Qrawl> LOLOL
[11:01] <Qrawl> http://www.kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-commitment.php
[11:01] <Qrawl> that last quote was from the politics channel
[11:01] <Zaire> is the glx driver for the nvidia as good as the actual driver -_-
[11:02] <pussfeller> where you turn it on linux_galore
[11:02] <Qrawl> "In his opening remarks at the start of the conference Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth announced that he was now using Kubuntu on his desktop machine and said he wanted Kubuntu to move to a first class distribution within the Ubuntu community. "
[11:02] <Zaire> is the glx driver for the nvidia as good as the actual driver -_-
[11:03] <pussfeller> you mean the opensource one?
[11:03] <pussfeller> no
[11:03] <pussfeller> theres a politics channel here
[11:04] <linux_galore> pussfeller:  open konquoror Settings -> Configure Konqueror -.> left window pane go to the bottom were it has the performance icon click on it then on the right mark "Pre Load Konquorer" and set it to 2
[11:04] <Zaire> I can't get the actual nvidia driver to install despite getting all of the necessary files
[11:04] <dm_> Hello, I installed Kubuntu 6.06 and am still looking for a good Viewer for G4 compressed multipage TIFFs. Must have: zooming with interpolation and thumbnails of the pages (on the left). Gwenview can't do this, kfaxview crashes on start (SIGSEGV 11). evince is ncie but can't read from samba shares. What program do I have to install?
[11:05] <Qrawl> What do you mean Gwenview cant do that
[11:05] <linux_galore> dm_: kview should work
[11:05] <pussfeller> thanks linux_galore
[11:06] <dm_> linux_galore: I'll try ...
[11:06] <pussfeller> kuickshow?
[11:06] <Zaire> actually oddly enough the nvidia driver did mention something about going to whatever site or something for redhat rpms
[11:07] <linux_galore> isnt there a univarsal image viewer called nview
[11:07] <linux_galore> opens anything
[11:07] <dm_> pussfeller: Can't find kuickshow in apt.
[11:07] <salvo> good morning everybody
[11:08] <Qrawl> I think I tried NViewer but it didnt show up anywhere
[11:08] <Zaire> thats it I have got to get an ATI
[11:08] <pussfeller> what happemed to kuickshow
[11:09] <Qrawl> no, I installed GImageView, and it didnt show up anywhere after installing it
[11:09] <buz> !kopete
[11:09] <ubotu> Kopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org
[11:09] <pussfeller> ati is far worse...
[11:09] <BazziR> Zaire: Ati and linux is fire and water
[11:09] <dm_> searching nview only returns gwenview an pornview  :-O
[11:09] <linux_galore> xnview -> http://perso.orange.fr/pierre.g/xnview/enxnview.html
[11:09] <Zaire> dunno a friend of mine runs kubuntu stable on his X800
[11:09] <pussfeller> you installing from restricted-modules-386?
[11:09] <BazziR> buz: I'm sure jriddell will build one
[11:09] <buz> ok cool
[11:09] <Qrawl> when I used Windows, I used IrfanView.  that was a great programm
[11:09] <buz> so i wont pollute my system with a custom build ;)
[11:10] <dh> Is a Linux IRC Chat Program, instead of Tab like KOnversation, it has Windows... ?
[11:11] <linux_galore> dh: I use gaim
[11:11] <dh> !Codec
[11:11] <ubotu> dh: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:11] <dh> !Codecs
[11:11] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[11:11] <pussfeller> ksirc used windows iirc
[11:12] <dh> What is the URL KSIRC ?
[11:13] <dm_> I tested KView for viewing the Images. It's like Gwenview: It only opens the first page (and the interpolation is way too slow!).
[11:13] <Zaire> I like irc xchat when I can actually get it to work lol
[11:13] <buz> dh: use adept to install ksirc
[11:15] <dh> WinRAR for Linux is free ?
[11:15] <Qrawl> dm_, what do you mean by interpolation
[11:15] <Qrawl> smoothing?
[11:15] <Zaire> graphical smoothing in otherwords
[11:16] <Qrawl> GwenView does that just fine
[11:17] <linux_galore> http://www.kvirc.net/
[11:17] <dm_> Qrawl: If the the Image is 3500 px high but your screen only 768 it has to interpolate ...
[11:17] <Qrawl> ok
[11:17] <dm_> Yes gwenviews interpolation is smooth and quick but it cant open those files
[11:18] <Qrawl> what do you mean it cant open them
[11:18] <Qrawl> too much memory eating?
[11:18] <Zaire> mount command says spcify filesystem when I try to mount the cdrom
[11:18] <dm_> It only shows me the first page and no thumbnails (like the pdf viewers or evince do)
[11:20] <dm_> XnView is not free.
[11:20] <Qrawl> oh, multipage tiffs
[11:21] <dm_> I think evince is closest but cant open the files directly from konqueror showing a samba shared folder
[11:21] <pussfeller> what happened to kuickshow?
[11:21] <pussfeller> i used to read my mangas in that
[11:21] <pussfeller> now, its like it has been purged from history
[11:22] <Qrawl> Comic book viewers are good for manga
[11:22] <Qrawl> theres a comic book viewer in the repos
[11:22] <Zaire> damnit why can't I mount the cdrom drive
[11:22] <pussfeller> i used to run one in wine that was awesome
[11:22] <Qrawl> CDisplay?
[11:23] <Qrawl> thats the main Windows one
[11:23] <tony_> what's the quickest way to get thin clients booting from a kubuntu server?
[11:23] <dh> Thanks Linux_Galore KVirc is what I was looking for :D
[11:23] <tony_> Is the easiest way to install edubuntu? (is there a KDE-based edubuntu?)
[11:23] <heinkel_111> do I need an MSN passport to get msn working with kopete?
[11:24] <pussfeller> 'yeah cdisply
[11:26] <pussfeller> kuickshow didnt handle rars and zips tho
[11:26] <pussfeller> zips maybe
[11:26] <dm_> tony_: Try ltsp-server-standalone
[11:27] <Zaire> ok is keeps telling em that I am required to specify the filesystem type when I go to mount the cdrom -_- wth is goin on
[11:27] <anymous> hello on http://kubuntu.org/faq.php there is a broken link to  InstallingKDE pointing to http://www.kubuntu.org/InstallingKDE which should be https://wiki.kubuntu.org/InstallingKDE
[11:27] <pussfeller> did you install kubuntu-desktop?
[11:27] <buz> shouldnt ubotu point users asking about codecs etc to easyubuntu?
[11:27] <pussfeller> i had probs with my mounts until then
[11:27] <tony_> dm_: from the kubuntu install disc, or edubuntu?
[11:28] <pussfeller> they don't seem to like easyubuntu and automatix
[11:28] <buz> easyubuntu 3.0 works like a charm
[11:28] <buz> i didnt like the prior version either
[11:28] <Zaire> -_- I put a cd in with mp3 backups of one of my cd's that was totaled in a cdrom drive accident and it auto mounted
[11:30] <pussfeller> tony_: from apt-get
[11:30] <pussfeller> its a program to run thin clients
[11:30] <pussfeller> well, the program
[11:31] <dh> I tried isntalling kvirc and got errors.
[11:31] <dh>  kvirc depends on kvirc-data (>= 2:3.0.0); however:
[11:31] <dh>   Package kvirc-data is not installed.
[11:31] <dm_> tony_: Install whatever you like on the server. Then install ltsp, run the build-client script (loads another 300 MB ubuntu into /opt/ltsp), run the dhcp3 and nfs daemon and boot your client from PXE or an Etherboot disk/usb/hd/cd/...
[11:32] <bhna> kdm in kde 3.5.3 lost the borders around the name and password. how can i change this?
[11:32] <tony_> thanks. I misunderstood - thought you mean "choose ltsp-standalone" as an install option
[11:32] <bhna> and the systray icons are in one line.
[11:35] <Zaire> well igtg i'll prob be back on again tomorrow though with more issues lol
[11:39] <buz> uhm is it just me or is the rss stream on kubuntu.org really totally broken?
[11:39] <dm_> tony_: If your client cant boot from PXE, you can create a 64k boot image for floppy, hd, eeprom ... on http://rom-o-matic.net/
[11:41] <prxq> hi. is cryptetup / dm-crypt no longer in kubuntu? or do I have to set special apt sources?
[11:41] <dm_> universe
[11:42] <dm_> tony_: If you face the problem that some clients (connected e. g. only with 10 Mbit) need about 20 mins to boot then the nfs mount of its root fs fails because of too big udp blocksize. Then you have to add a kernel cmd line with some NFSOPTS to the dhcpd.conf file or (for PXE) pxelinux.cfg/default
[11:42] <dh> I am trying to install KVIrc using the .DEB package but I get errors.
[11:42] <prxq> dm_: I see
[11:42] <dh> dpkg -i kvirc3_3.0.1-2_i386.deb
[11:42] <dh> That is the command line for it right ?
[11:44] <slow-motion> re
[11:45] <neutrinomass> I tried to install kde with 'sudo apt-get install kde' and it fails at knetworkconf : http://pastebin.com/757250
[11:46] <prxq> dm_: indeed. thanks
[11:46] <tony_> dm_ thanks for the info - I'm trying to setup ltsp on dapper to replace my current bastardised breezy server / knoppix booting client, that then accesses the server via the nx client...
[11:46] <dh> I just found a easier way to install a .DEB. lol
[11:47] <robin> Hi, I missing a "show background" icon in the taskbar, so I can switch fast between the desktop and the running applications. How do can add this icon ?
[11:47] <dm_> tony_: Then ltsp should be fine ;-)
[11:48] <tony_> will be interesting to see the speed diff (if any) between plain X and NX
[11:49] <robin> nevermind I have found it :)
[11:53] <_thomas> hi, jemand da, der mir mit dapper probs helfen kann?
[11:53] <dm_> tony_: I never tried NX (BTW: ubuntu's ltsp uses X over ssh)
[11:54] <dm_> _thomas: There's an #kubuntu-de
[11:54] <weedar> _thomas: try #ubuntu-de for german ubuntu channel, otherwise use english here
[11:54] <weedar> yeah, what dm_ said :)
[11:54] <_thomas> oh sorry, I thought, this was the german list...
[11:55] <tony_> dm_: nx is nice over slow links, but this is 100Mbps LAN - so probably little difference
[11:55] <dm_> How does NX work, like vnc?
[11:56] <tony_> from what I understand, it's a compression and round-trip elimination layer over top of X
[11:57] <tony_> but yeah, you use it just like vnc (or an rdc client)
[11:58] <equinoxeB> Hi guys
[11:59] <equinoxeB> I've compiled and made a deb pack for kopete 0.12
[11:59] <equinoxeB> where should I put it?
[11:59] <linux_galore> equinoxeB: put it on www.kde-apps.org
[11:59] <equinoxeB> ok...
[11:59] <equinoxeB> it is for dapper
[12:00] <equinoxeB> I do not know if it works on breezy...or others
[12:00] <linux_galore> equinoxeB: yes people often post distro specific packages
[12:03] <Steven_M> hi all
[12:04] <_thomas> hi, I have some problems with running apache2 on dapper
[12:04] <_thomas> anyone here who might know something?
[12:04] <_thomas> its not running since a few weeks.
[12:05] <Phlogistique> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start ?
[12:05] <_thomas> it gives an failure like " Illegal instruction     $HTTPD -k start -DSSL" when starting with /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[12:06] <Steven_M> Is there anyway of reinstalling grub from the dapper LTS desktop cd, without reinstalling my whole system?
[12:06] <equinoxeB> I can't load kopete 0.12.deb on kde-apps. the package has 8 Mb...
[12:06] <_thomas> I reinstalled apache2 completely new, but the failure stays
[12:06] <cfraz89> Steven_M: man grub-install
[12:07] <afm\colossus> hello there once again :)
[12:07] <afm\colossus> i'd like to get rid of KDE's spell checker (in konqueror, at least) - is there any way to do this?
[12:07] <equinoxeB> anyone... WHERE SHOULD I UPLOAD KOPETE 0.12 deb package -> it has 8 Mb  :((
[12:08] <equinoxeB> on kde-apps I can only upload 750 Kb
[12:09] <erofee> hi all
[12:12] <equinoxeB> I have kopete 0.12.... voice... web cam... :|. deb package. don;t know where to upload it...
[12:12] <equinoxeB> I could make a torrent for it...
[12:12] <equinoxeB> :(
[12:13] <cfraz89> equinoxeB: submit it to kopete people?
[12:13] <equinoxeB> where???
[12:13] <equinoxeB> :(
[12:13] <equinoxeB> you mean... contact them...give them the file...?
[12:13] <equinoxeB> :|
[12:14] <prxq> hi. Is there something in kubuntu which does the same as fancontrol?
[12:15] <CaptainMorgan> can firefox and xchat run in kubuntu?
[12:15] <buz> firefox for sure
[12:15] <weedar> Yes CaptainMorgan
[12:15] <CaptainMorgan> thanks
[12:15] <cfraz89> equinoxeB: well the packages are hosted on sourceforge
[12:15] <cfraz89> there must be contacts there
[12:16] <buz> equinoxeB: no #kopete on freenode?
[12:16] <CaptainMorgan> wow.. Im really liking Kubuntu...
[12:16] <cfraz89>    dmacvica at users.sourceforge.net
[12:16] <cfraz89> is kopete admin
[12:16] <cfraz89> one
[12:19] <equinoxeB> then I should upload it to sourceforge?
[12:19] <equinoxeB> can I do that?
[12:20] <CaptainMorgan> how do I do basic installs? I tried to download firefox and upon extracting came up with errors...
[12:20] <equinoxeB> without someone to ckeck it?
[12:20] <buz> CaptainMorgan: start adept
[12:20] <CaptainMorgan> oh... k's version of synaptic in ubuntu?
[12:21] <buz> more or less
[12:21] <buz> you can always use apt-get itself of course
[12:22] <CaptainMorgan> took me awhile to find the terminal... :)
[12:29] <equinoxeB> http://www.esnips.com/doc/735f3b5a-6087-450c-b242-d79b1ea8fb57/kopete_5.0.12-1_dapper_i386.deb
[12:29] <equinoxeB> needs  account
[12:29] <equinoxeB> :|
[12:31] <neutrinomass> I tried installing kde with 'sudo apt-get install kde' , but knetwork fails: http://pastebin.com/757250
[12:31] <jpatrick> neutrinomass: looks messy
[12:31] <method|> anyone get a boot error when trying to boot from the desktop disc?
[12:32] <method|> it's happened to be on the kubuntu disc but not the ubuntu disc
[12:32] <neutrinomass> jpatrick: It is. apt-get install -f doesn't fix it, and deps are failing all over the place afterwards ...
[12:33] <jpatrick> neutrinomass: I think it's dpkg -i --overwrite=all something
[12:33] <method|> anyone have this trouble?
[12:34] <neutrinomass> jpatrick: Doesn't work, no such option to dpkg (I quickly looked at the manpage as well )
[12:35] <equinoxeB> http://www.esnips.com/web/equinoxeBsOtherStuff
[12:35] <equinoxeB> get koepte 0.12
[12:35] <equinoxeB> :)
[12:35] <equinoxeB> kopete
[12:36] <jpatrick> neutrinomass: sudo dpkg -i -force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/knetworkconf_4%3a3.5.2-0ubuntu8_i386.deb
[12:36] <jpatrick> that's two -- for force
[12:37] <neutrinomass> jpatrick: Weird ... it worked
[12:37] <jpatrick> I rule
[12:37] <jpatrick> ;)
[12:38] <method|> can anyone help?
[12:38] <method|> is the kubuntu desktop disk flawed?
[12:38] <method|> cause the ubuntu disk works perfectly
[12:38] <jpatrick> method|: I didn't use the install CD's, sorry
[12:38] <method|> :/
[12:38] <method|> ok
[12:39] <jpatrick> I already had Dapper for 5 months
[12:39] <tony_> methodj: my first download of the iso (via torrent) had the wrong md5 sum
[12:39] <method|> aaah man
[12:39] <weedar> that is very weird tony_, torrents are supposed to do hash-checking while you download
[12:40] <neutrinomass> jpatrick: Thanks :)
[12:40] <method|> i wanted to try kubuntu out before i installed it
[12:40] <method|> tonight that is
[12:40] <method|> errr morning now
[12:40] <tony_> corrupt torrents have happened to me a few times - starting to think that it's breezy's ktorrent?
[12:41] <jpatrick> neutrinomass: no problem
[12:41] <CaptainMorgan> anyway I can change display resolution? it's stuck only on one setting and lists no others.. 1400 x 1050.. and it doesn't even seem like that's accurate.. seems more like 1048x768 or soemthing...
[12:43] <neutrinomass> CaptainMorgan: You'll probably have to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'.  Please file a bug report as well :) (attach everything listed on step 5 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingXAutoconfiguration)
[12:44] <neutrinomass> CaptainMorgan: Before running that, be sure to back up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:46] <Memorice> hey
[12:47] <Memorice> I've a problem by installing kubuntu 6.06
[12:47] <Memorice> I get a black (empty) screen during the installation
[12:48] <Memorice> I'm trying to install it on a notebook (Acer Aspire 1692WLMI, ATI RADEON X700)
[12:48] <Memorice> the screen went black after I chose Start or install kubuntu
[12:48] <adma> hello! :)
[12:49] <Memorice> I saw a load bar and that the drivers where loading and after that the screen goes black
[12:49] <Memorice> what can I do now?
[12:49] <CaptainMorgan> check to see if you system is compatible
[12:49] <adma> have you checked the dick for errors?
[12:49] <adma> *disc
[12:50] <adma> sorry... :S
[12:50] <Memorice> yes the disc is correct
[12:50] <Memorice> and how can I see if my system is compatible?
[12:50] <adma> strange...what is your system-config?
[12:50] <Memorice> Acer Aspire 1692WLMI
[12:51] <jpatrick> how does one see how much space is left? (cmd-line style)
[12:52] <adma> what is your current os then?
[12:52] <neutrinomass> jpatrick: 'df -h'
[12:52] <Memorice> win xp
[12:53] <jpatrick> neutrinomass: thank you
[12:53] <askinsonhecesi> hello
[12:53] <adma> okay...I just installed kubuntu on my Acer laptop yesterday and the same error uccured to me then...I just tried a few times and finally it worked!
[12:54] <jpatrick> http://pastebin.com/757347 <- ah that's good
[12:54] <askinsonhecesi>  a
[12:54] <Memorice> I've tried many times (I guess more than 10) and all the time the same error
[12:54] <jpatrick> askinsonhecesi: hello
[12:54] <Memorice> very annoying and the problem is, I've never worked before with linux
[12:55] <Memorice> so I don't know what to do...
[12:56] <adma> I am also pretty new with linux but your system shold be capable of running it...maybe there is a driver conflict?
[12:56] <neutrinomass> Memorice: Have you tried the alternate install CD ?
[12:56] <Memorice> no, what is the alternate install cd?
[12:56] <adma> good idea... :)
[12:58] <Memorice> it takes a long time to download it here :(
[12:58] <Memorice> don't have my normal 100 mbit connection :(
[12:59] <adma> The alternate install CD allows you to perform certain specialist installations of Kubuntu. It provides for the following situations:
[12:59] <adma> setting up automated deployments;
[12:59] <adma> upgrading from older installations without network access;
[12:59] <adma> LVM and/or RAID partitioning;
[12:59] <adma> installing GRUB to a location other than the Master Boot Record;
[12:59] <adma> installs on systems with less than about 192MB of RAM.
[12:59] <Memorice> I've read that already, but thanks :)
[12:59] <adma> heh okay...sorry :P
[12:59] <neutrinomass> Memorice: Sorry, I don't know what else to suggest. You must file a bug at Launchpad though ... (probably against Xorg)
[01:00] <adma> my problem is that I cannot install any programs :S fx. firefox...
[01:00] <Memorice> I've tried to go to a console (ctrl+alt+f1)
[01:00] <Memorice> and then stop kdm
[01:00] <Memorice> reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:00] <Memorice> and then start kdm again
[01:00] <Memorice> but it didn't work
[01:01] <Memorice> (I've chosen the default settings by reconfigure the xserver)
[01:01] <Memorice> btw, does it change anything when I install ubuntu in stead of kubuntu?
[01:01] <buz> can anyone recommend a PAL tv card that will work with ubuntu for sure?
[01:02] <Memorice> or will I still have the same problem
[01:02] <buz> i have a wintv but it doesnt work, picture's always green
[01:04] <kronoz> ergh, kubuntu's default gtkqt engine is ugly in ff
[01:05] <equinoxeB> Kopete 0.12 deb package Dapper . use --force-overwrite to install: http://www.esnips.com/doc/735f3b5a-6087-450c-b242-d79b1ea8fb57/kopete_5.0.12-1_dapper_i386.deb
[01:07] <adma> back again...
[01:07] <slow-motion> bbl
[01:08] <adma> as I said before...how do I install Firefox on Kubuntu?
[01:08] <equinoxeB> apt-get install firefox. or get it with adept
[01:08] <adma> and as said before...I'm a complete newbie :)
[01:08] <afm\colo> like anything else, using your package manager
[01:08] <adma> where do I find it?
[01:09] <uniq> adma: kmenu -> add/remove programs
[01:09] <adma> then what?
[01:10] <afm\colo> just poke around
[01:10] <afm\colo> it's not that hard, now is it?
[01:10] <uniq> adma: you'll get asked for your password, then in the search field type 'firefox', in the drop-down-menu to the right of the search field choose 'Any suite' and firefox will pop up in the results.
[01:11] <adma> great! :D thanks...
[01:11] <kronoz> adma, kmenu > system > adept > enter your password > search: firefox > right click firefox > request install > apply
[01:12] <adma> sorry for me being such a n00b but I only started usin Linux yesterday...
[01:12] <adma> got it downloading now! ;)
[01:13] <adma> another question...where are all programs stored?
[01:14] <kronoz> adma, unlike windows various places
[01:15] <kronoz> adma, to find out where an app is installed open konsole and type, 'whereis firefox' or some other program
[01:15] <adma> so how do I install flash in kubuntu? have had no luck so far...
[01:15] <adma> ah okay...
[01:15] <kronoz> !easysource
[01:15] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:15] <equinoxeB> adma: fist though you need to run updatedb... for whereis...
[01:16] <adma> so the new programs are recognized?
[01:16] <uniq> adma: beeing new to linux is nothing to be sorry for, everyone is, the first time :)
[01:16] <adma> yup :)
[01:17] <kronoz> is there a packge which hass all the ubuntu dev gpg keys?
[01:17] <dh> I am looking for IRC Chat Client which has windows. instead of tabs
[01:17] <kronoz> adding them manually gets boring and i've lost my script to do it for me
[01:17] <kronoz> dh, xchat?
[01:18] <dh> I think that is tabed for linux
[01:18] <PPower> does anybody here know any good icom ic706 rig control software for linux? there is none that work in the repos
[01:21] <dh> EDIJUS: Yeah ?
[01:21] <adma> how do I install flash in firefox?
[01:22] <dh> Download flash anf the README.TXT is helpfull.
[01:22] <Blizzz> im afraid i forgot, but i worked...
[01:23] <asn> just click it where the flash not work
[01:25] <uniq> adma: for flash support: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[01:26] <uniq> adma: there is also alot of other usefull information on that page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:29] <asn> what's the difference from ubuntu Desktop and server
[01:29] <pekay> anyone know a good bandiwidth monitor? :[
[01:29] <pekay> bandwidthd, ant got a clue how that works
[01:29] <Hobbsee> asn: one includes the ubuntu-desktop, the other doesnt (ie, no X)
[01:30] <uniq> asn: only the programs installed.
[01:30] <uniq> pekay: for console or graphical?
[01:30] <asn> thx
[01:30] <pekay> uniq: any :p
[01:30] <pekay> one that workss preferably ;P
[01:30] <uniq> pekay: i like 'iptraf' for console.
[01:31] <adma> how do I make Thunderbird and Firefox the default mail and webclient?
[01:31] <uniq> pekay: i also use 'nload'
[01:31] <uniq> pekay: and you can try 'bwm'
[01:31] <dh> adma: K Meni --> System Settings --> KDE Components
[01:32] <uniq> adma: kmenu - system settings -> kde components -> default applications
[01:32] <asn> and how can I write a source
[01:32] <asn> give a example
[01:33] <adma> thx :D
[01:33] <uniq> asn: a source as in what?
[01:33] <asn> sources.list
[01:34] <uniq> !easysource
[01:34] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:36] <asn> yeah,it's good
[01:36] <uniq> it's very good.
[01:38] <adma> I see now that flash is not supported 100% on my AMD64 processor :S how do I proceed now?
[01:39] <pekay> uniq:
[01:39] <h3sp4wn> !schroot
[01:39] <ubotu> h3sp4wn: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:39] <pekay> oops
[01:39] <pekay> uniq: aha nload seems good, does it save the bandwidth used?
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> adma: You can either install a 32 bit chroot and setup schroot to give you seemless access to 32 bit programs or install 32bit
[01:41] <adma> what about gplflash? can I use that and how do I install it?
[01:41] <pekay> uniq: meh, im gonna reboot anyway, thanks :]
[01:46] <vinboy> .
[01:46] <uniq> pekay: don't think so, to save the bandwith used i recommend 'vnstat'.
[01:47] <uniq> pekay: for vnstat info: http://humdi.net/vnstat/ (it can be downloaded from apt)
[01:54] <kronoz> !avi
[01:54] <ubotu> well, avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:54] <afm\colo> no
[01:54] <afm\colo> avi = audio/video-interleave
[01:54] <afm\colo> a container format
[01:54] <afm\colo> and this says NOTHING about the incorporated video or audio codecs
[01:59] <equinoxeB> don;t forget about kopete 0.12... dapper deb pack:
[01:59] <equinoxeB> http://www.esnips.com/web/equinoxeBsOtherStuff
[02:00] <cfraz89> thanks equinoxeB!
[02:01] <dh> Can I convert a NTFS Partition into EXT3?
[02:01] <ctothej> Whats the main difference between java 1.4 and java 5 (in linux i mean)? Are they both required?
[02:01] <uniq> dh: no.
[02:02] <uniq> ctothej: java 5 is a newer (and better) version.
[02:02] <dh> How can I move my files over?
[02:02] <equinoxeB> dh: I have my ntfs part munted in r/w mode
[02:02] <uniq> equinoxeb: please do not recommend installing things that need --force options to install.
[02:02] <pekay> uniq: aha thanks mate, thats really what I need ;)
[02:02] <jpatrick> equinoxeB: bad idea
[02:02] <equinoxeB> uniq: it is not a major thing
[02:03] <equinoxeB> jpatrick: with fuse utils
[02:03] <equinoxeB> jpatrick: not with kernel suport
[02:03] <jpatrick> ok
[02:03] <Davidosky> Hi all
[02:03] <uniq> equinoxeb: most problems are minor, but the consequences when you do not know how to resolve them can become major.
[02:03] <ctothej> why can i not run java when only version 5 is installed?
[02:05] <equinoxeB> uniq: maybe I had to --force-overwite only on my system
[02:05] <ctothej> or better yet, how can I set java 5 as the one the OS uses by default?
[02:05] <equinoxeB> uniq: the deb pack generated without any errors
[02:05] <dusty> Anyone here setup successfully, dual monitors using onboard graphics card and an AGP graphics card?
[02:06] <Davidosky> Is there someone that can explain how connect a Nokia 6630 with an USB cable? (i need to manage it...)
[02:06] <ctothej> dusty: i set up dual monitors on an ati card. the layout of xorg.conf will be similar.
[02:06] <ctothej> dusty: ill pastebin mine if you think it would help
[02:09] <dusty> Yes that would be of great help, plus I have a quick question...
[02:10] <dusty> I put the AGP card in, plugged the monitors in, and then booted up. It loaded but the onboard graphcis card with the monitor plugged into it (usually my main display) never came on at all, not even flickered and the AGP one did, any ideas?
[02:13] <voicu> hi, i have just installed fglrx and every 5 seconds the computer hangs for a second. can someone help me with this?
[02:13] <ctothej> dusty: im confused, the AGP card has 2 vga outputs right?
[02:13] <ctothej> or just 1?
[02:13] <_rince_> mrgn
[02:13] <voicu> the 3d acceleration now works ok (except for the hangs, of course)
[02:13] <dusty> just one
[02:14] <dusty> the agp card has one output with one monitor plugged in, the other monitor is plugged into the onboard video.
[02:14] <ctothej> dusty: oh ok.. i think your motherboard is choosing which output to use. 1 or the other. but not allowing both.
[02:14] <dusty> hrm ok
[02:14] <dusty> how do i fix it
[02:14] <ctothej> update motherboard bios, check motherboard settings...
[02:15] <dusty> I did it let em select between PCI/AGP
[02:15] <ctothej> maybe another setting for which is primary. set all the video settings manually, dont select options with 'auto'
[02:16] <dusty> hmm
[02:16] <dusty> ok
[02:16] <ctothej> you should send an e-mail to your motherboard manufacturer tech dept
[02:16] <dusty> lemme reboot and have a look
[02:16] <ctothej> ok
[02:17] <_Pete_> anyone here using kzenexplorer ? It's used to transfer musicfiles  to creative zen player...
[02:18] <Buckbeak> I'm currently install kubuntu and the installer has got stuck on "Scanning the mirror..." 1%.  Anyone know whats going on?
[02:18] <azathoth> anyone know why the flashplayer plugin in firefox won't play sound?
[02:18] <henning_> anyone know why amarok just skips my mp3s instead of playing them?
[02:19] <ctothej> henning_: you need to install mp3 codecs. they arent installed by default due to legal issues
[02:19] <_Pete_> azathoth: guess, something has reserved the audio device and your soundcard don't do HW-mixing allowing multiple programs to access it at a time
[02:19] <ctothej> !restricted
[02:19] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:19] <kronoz> henning_, probably because you don't have the codecs for mp3 playback in amarok
[02:19] <henning_> but xmms can play, okay i will check the codec thing
[02:19] <ctothej> !FreeFormats
[02:19] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[02:20] <_Pete_> I have the exactly the same problem as henning has
[02:20] <azathoth> _Pete_: i was just listening to amarok and it was playing fine, i paused it (which releases the audio) and my flash doesn't play sound
[02:20] <ctothej> _Pete_: check the links i just posted
[02:20] <_Pete_> ctothej: I have checked them already
[02:20] <ctothej> oh
[02:20] <azathoth> completely closing out of amaroK didn't fix it either
[02:20] <_Pete_> and did exactly what they say
[02:20] <ctothej> what players have you used?
[02:21] <_Pete_> azathoth: maybe some kind of sound demon (arts or so) is still reserved the audio
[02:21] <_Pete_> ctothej: me ?
[02:21] <ctothej> yep
[02:21] <_Pete_> I can play mp3 with xmms/beep-media-player/vlc fine
[02:21] <_Pete_> but no luck with amarok
[02:23] <kronoz> !mp3
[02:23] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:23] <Blizzz> amarok is working fine here, i think i just searched for codecs by synaptic, but thats long ago
[02:24] <abloylas> henning_: amarok needs libxine-extracodecs for mp3
[02:24] <dusty> ctothej, I can't find that option in the bios or anything that might help.  Do you think its just because I don't have both cards configured.. I noticed when i did lspci with the agp card in, i couldn't see the onboard one.?
[02:24] <kronoz> why does kmplayer default to the xine engine :S
[02:24] <abloylas> henning_: it's a bug in ubuntu packaging
[02:24] <ctothej> dusty: do you see the boot sequence on both monitors when booting?
[02:25] <Fillado> does anyone have any experience with setting up gkrellm for monitoring CPU temps?
[02:25] <gil_> will someone help me get suspend mode working on my toshiba laptop
[02:25] <abloylas> _Pete_:  amarok needs libxine-extracodecs for mp3
[02:25] <gil_> i cant get it to resume...just locks up on me!
[02:25] <dusty> ctothej, no nothing appears on the other monitor
[02:26] <henning_> abloylas cant find that package
[02:26] <jeekl> Hi, Running dapper. I upgraded to KDE 3.5.3 just two days ago and I am going mad. Konqi has gotten so unresponsive. When opening a new tab, by middleclicking a link or something similar, konqi freezes fr half a second instead of nicely loading the tab in the background, like it used to do. Has anyone else experienced this?
[02:26] <_Pete_> abloylas: ok let's see... was that mentioned somewhere on those pages people have been posting urls I need to check out? At least havent noticed yet
[02:26] <abloylas> henning_: it might be in multiverse or something
[02:26] <ctothej> dusty: im not really sure. I have a feeling that the mobo wont allow it. better call/email tech for your motherboard and post a topic in the kubuntu/ubuntu forums to see if anyone has ever done it.
[02:26] <dusty> ok
[02:27] <dusty> any idea how i can find out info on my motherboard without opening the case?
[02:27] <abloylas> _Pete_: it's a known problem
[02:27] <abloylas> have you tried automatix?
[02:27] <_Pete_> no
[02:27] <_Pete_> libxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.
[02:27] <_Pete_> but I tried easyubuntu
[02:27] <abloylas> works good for me
[02:27] <_Pete_> as a last chance
[02:27] <_Pete_> it installed all codecs
[02:27] <abloylas> and the latest version fixes the amarok bug too
[02:27] <_Pete_> but still no sound from amarok
[02:28] <Blizzz> i tihnk you have to reboot
[02:28] <henning_> what source is the multiverse, i mean what do i have to enter in the sources.list?
[02:28] <ctothej> dusty: does it announce it on boot or in the mobo bios?
[02:28] <dusty> no
[02:28] <abloylas> the latest automatix installs libxine-extracodecs
[02:29] <ctothej> was it purchased from a computer manufacturer?
[02:29] <abloylas> henning_: i recommend automatix, takes care of all
[02:29] <_Pete_> abloylas: I have that installed
[02:29] <ctothej> !automatix
[02:29] <ubotu> Automatix is a utility which helps install various codecs and applications which cannot be part of the default installation, also another utility is called EasyUbuntu, please join #automatix or #easyubuntu for more information
[02:29] <_Pete_> but still no sound in amarok
[02:29] <dusty> no a big supermarket (no name brand)
[02:29] <abloylas> _Pete_: what do you have installed?
[02:29] <_Pete_> abloylas: you mean packages ?
[02:30] <abloylas> when you say you have "that" installed, what do you mean?
[02:30] <abloylas> _Pete_: what is "that"?
[02:30] <gil_> so will someone help me with supsend-to-ram?
[02:30] <jaims> hello
[02:31] <abloylas> hi jaims
[02:31] <ctothej> dusty: im looking around now to find out how to get your mobo manufacturer and id. give me a few.
[02:31] <jaims> just updated kubuntu breezy to dapper, using alternate cd; but the x wont start...
[02:31] <jaims> any hint?
[02:31] <_Pete_> abloylas: http://machine.homeunix.net:888/~petriai/tmp/all_packages.txt
[02:32] <_Pete_> here's output of: dpkg -l
[02:32] <ctothej> dusty: check out http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-1035-1041092.html
[02:33] <dusty> ok
[02:33] <dusty> jaims, Reconfigure X.
[02:33] <abloylas> _Pete_: i see you have libxine-extracodecs, if that was not the problem i'm afraid i cannot help
[02:34] <_Pete_> ok, thanks anyway
[02:34] <henning_> i installed automatix, what now?
[02:34] <ctothej> dusty: you can also try 'lspci -v'
[02:35] <abloylas> henning_: run it and it should fix all your problems:)
[02:35] <abloylas> don't blame me if it doesn't thoug
[02:35] <abloylas> your own risk
[02:35] <abloylas> worked good for me
[02:35] <jaims> dusty, how do i reconfigure X? Any tool?
[02:35] <jaims> Ie edited xconf.conf, seems ok...
[02:36] <jpatrick> jaims: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:37] <jaims> aha
[02:37] <jaims> let me try
[02:37] <jaims> thanx!
[02:37] <cromo> any chances we will see kopete 0.12 for kubuntuofficial build?
[02:38] <jpatrick> soon
[02:38] <cromo> great
[02:38] <cromo> it would be great if kubuntu would provide all-in-one repository for fresh updates
[02:39] <_Pete_> ok then another problem besides amarok... How do one use karamba? :)
[02:39] <cromo> you have to edit sources.list each time some new packages appear
[02:39] <_Pete_> I have it installed and also one theme package dld and extraced
[02:39] <_Pete_> should I test the package by doing: karamba <themefile>.theme ?
[02:40] <jpatrick> cromo: that's in the works I think
[02:40] <jpatrick> cromo: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings
[02:41] <cromo> jpatrick: indeed, nice to hear that
[02:42] <XVampireX> Has there been any upgrades in the repositories for the past 2 days? I haven't seen any....
[02:43] <abloylas> henning_: did you run automatix?
[02:43] <jpatrick> XVampireX: dapper is frozen
[02:44] <sokuban> This might sound like the silliest question, but in essence ubuntu and kubuntu are the same right? So any program that works on ubuntu would probbably work on kubuntu?
[02:44] <_Pete_> sokuban: right
[02:44] <_Pete_> only difference is the desktop enviroment
[02:44] <sokuban> so the only difference is the desktop
[02:44] <henning_> yeah it worked good, i just installed the codec and amarok is now playing, thx very much
[02:44] <sokuban> ok thanks
[02:44] <sokuban> I feel like an idiot XD
[02:44] <abloylas> henning_: good :)
[02:44] <XVampireX> jpatrick: so no more sudo apt-get upgrade?
[02:45] <jpatrick> XVampireX: no
[02:45] <cromo> jpatrick: I noticed that you are the maintainer of kmplayer: why does it depend on gstreamer? I wish it used mplayer as a backend.
[02:46] <XVampireX> jpatrick: Ah, for a moment I thought something is wrong in the repositories *shrugs*
[02:46] <jpatrick> cromo: If it did it would have to go to multiverse
[02:47] <gil_> will someone help me get suspend mode working on my toshiba laptop
[02:47] <kronoz> gil_, whats the problem?
[02:47] <cromo> jpatrick: so no chances to use kmplayer with mplayer backend? or is it changeable within the kmplayer's configuration?
[02:48] <jpatrick> cromo: is changable, no way dep on mplayer now that it's in main
[02:48] <gil_> kronoz: hey....i cant get the laptop to resume from standby mode (Suspend-to-ram)
[02:48] <kronoz> cromo, settings > config > use mplayer backend
[02:48] <mash_> how do i stop the big "popup" happening everytime I roll over a taskbar item !
[02:48] <cromo> kronoz: didn't try it yet, stopped installing after I saw gstreamer ;)
[02:48] <gil_> i have tried several settings of acpi-support comments
[02:48] <gil_> nothing
[02:49] <gil_> it goes into suspend...but does not return , resume....screen goes white blank...and hardrive locks up
[02:50] <jaims> dusty, no success so far
[02:50] <jaims> I'll be trying harder
[02:50] <jaims> now time to luch
[02:50] <jaims> thanx!
[02:50] <mash_> anyone ?
[02:52] <ctothej> what is the difference between KDE and GNOME in display technology?
[02:53] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> what do you mean? look or like drivers and such?
[02:53] <ctothej> look. but both if you could :)
[02:54] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> well I think that GNOME is a bit of a plainer look
[02:54] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> but you can change both of them to suit you.
[02:54] <ctothej> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: what about graphics library used? im more interested in the technical differences
[02:55] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> not much I would say
[02:55] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> seeing as you can run GNOME stuff on KDE and vise versa.
[02:56] <Healot> hi kubuntuans
[02:56] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> lol Hi
[02:56] <ctothej> yeah i get the feeling that many application that can easily be run on both systems only are used on the one for which it was made
[02:56] <neutrinomass> ctothej: Gnome is built around Gtk+, whereas KDE uses the qt widget libraries ...
[02:56] <ctothej> it should be advertised as sugh
[02:57] <ctothej> neutrinomass: oh nice. thanks.
[02:59] <Healot> toolkit differences, both desktop application run seamlessly together
[03:00] <CaptainMorgan> in Add/Remove programs how do I get shaded application to be unshaded?
[03:00] <ctothej> heh, from oreillynet.com: "If you think that reimplementing the C++ Standard Template Library in C is a bad idea, you will like KDE / Qt. If you think that the C++ Standard Template Library is a bad idea, you will probably like GNOME / GTk+."
[03:05] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Ok I have a problem
[03:05] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I have all my music on my windows side and I wanted to play it on the linux side so I added all the songs to amaroK but it won't play any of them.
[03:06] <DaveQB> what type of format are they LiNuX_LoVeR_17 ?
[03:06] <afm\colo> aw good god, why does FUCKING kmail refuse to send my mails via smtp?
[03:07] <DaveQB> afm\colo: what error does it give ?? Do you have control over the SMTP server ?
[03:07] <afm\colo> DaveQB: no error, nothing. the smtp is not monitorable by me, unfortunately. the mails just keep sticking in my "Local Folders"-inbox
[03:07] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> They are MP3s
[03:08] <uniq> afm\colo: please don't use that kind of language here. It's not very nice.
[03:08] <ctothej> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: have you installed mp3 codecs?
[03:08] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> hmm not sure
[03:08] <ctothej> !mp3
[03:08] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:08] <mash_> anyone know now to stop the big "popup" happening everytime I roll over a taskbar item !.. pls
[03:09] <afm\colo> uniq: i wouldn't, it i weren't frustrated ;)
[03:09] <ctothej> mash_: right click on panel, click 'configure panel'
[03:09] <DaveQB> its definately a setting mash_ but I cant recall where, in Look n Feel though of course
[03:09] <ctothej> mash_: go to 'Appearance' tab
[03:09] <DaveQB> afm\colo: hard to diagnose without further info, did you try telnetting into your smtp server
[03:09] <DaveQB> ?
[03:10] <afm\colo> DaveQB: the smtp works perfectly fine with sylpheed and via its webinterface
[03:10] <afm\colo> i wonder why there's no possibility to monitor kmail's activities
[03:10] <mash_> ctothej: lovely lovely... ta ;-)
[03:10] <uniq> mash_: right click on kmenu -> panel menu -> appearance -> show bigger icons under mouse (or something like that).
[03:10] <ctothej> np
[03:11] <DaveQB> afm\colo:  hmmmm interesting.  I havent had any sending trouble with Kmail, but I mostly use Thunderbird anyway
[03:13] <afm\colo> DaveQB: well i remember having set up kmail in a working manner while using the livecd for a few days
[03:13] <DaveQB> afm\colo:  all I can suggest is to tripple sheck your settings
[03:13] <CaptainMorgan> in Add/Remove programs how do I get shaded application to be unshaded so that I can download it?
[03:14] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> ok just wondering but can amaroK play WMAs?
[03:14] <afm\colo> DaveQB: i've already done so... i'm absolutely sure everything's fine in the config
[03:14] <Healot> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: no... by default, you need some other packages to work that
[03:15] <jpatrick> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: think so
[03:15] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I can try it
[03:15] <jpatrick> with what Healot said
[03:15] <jpatrick> !mp3
[03:15] <afm\colo> DRM'd files won't work, I guess
[03:15] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:15] <jpatrick> ^ LiNuX_LoVeR_17
[03:15] <uniq> captainmorgan: can you give an example of a shaded application?
[03:16] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Ya I did that and it can play WMAs
[03:16] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Thanks
[03:17] <CaptainMorgan> uniq: http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4407/snapshot15zp.png
[03:17] <crazy_penguin> good afternoon to all!
[03:18] <Healot> yup no DRM... however there are some third party software to handle DRM, which I just don't want to mention
[03:18] <uniq> captainmorgan: enable the universe repository.
[03:19] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Is there a way to make BitTorrent not show your IP or hide it?
[03:19] <uniq> !universe
[03:19] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[03:19] <CaptainMorgan> where is it located?
[03:20] <uniq> captainmorgan: there is a guide at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto#head-3af7264a0e97edbc5bf039e5bdb971f46c43269a
[03:20] <afm\colo> my gosh
[03:20] <afm\colo> this is so INCREDIBLY stupid
[03:21] <uniq> afm\colo: what is?
[03:21] <vinboy> wat?
[03:21] <afm\colo> DaveQB: i know what was the cause
[03:21] <afm\colo> the only sending-account i created was not marked "default"
[03:21] <DaveQB> afm\colo: :)
[03:21] <afm\colo> so maybe kmail was trying to get mail out via a local MTA or sth
[03:21] <afm\colo> or whatever
[03:21] <DaveQB> afm\colo: happens to the best of us
[03:21] <afm\colo> thing is, it works now
[03:21] <neutrinomass> I just installed KDE. Overally, it's very nice, except for the menus. There are too many things there... does anybody know whether things will be cleaned up ?
[03:21] <DaveQB> yeah, sendmail i think it tried
[03:22] <afm\colo> thanks for bearing with me ;)
[03:22] <DaveQB> will be cleaned up when ?
[03:22] <DaveQB> I like it the way it is
[03:22] <DaveQB> afm\colo: no worries mate
[03:22] <DaveQB> neutrinomass: you can edit the menus however you like to
[03:23] <afm\colo> neutrinomass: if you want to see what a messy KDE menu looks like, give Knoppix a shot ;)
[03:23] <CaptainMorgan> yes, but that guide is for Ubuntu, uniq, using synaptic.. what about adept, kubuntu?
[03:23] <uniq> captainmorgan: scroll down.
[03:23] <neutrinomass> DaveQB: I meant as in an edgy specification. I know I can edit the menus... but newbie users might be overwhelmed...
[03:25] <DaveQB> neutrinomass: or may find it easier to find things in a menu then trying to guess their executable name in a Konsole.  That is, if the konsole is in the menu :)
[03:25] <neutrinomass> DaveQB: Agreed, but I feel you understood my point :)
[03:26] <tzar> does anyone know how to change sources to testing from stable in ubuntu?
[03:27] <afm\colo> great :) my FSFE-fellowship account has been activated
[03:28] <afm\colo> before you stands fellow #737 (greetings from Boeing ;D)
[03:29] <DaveQB> tzar: ummmm this is not Debian :)
[03:29] <tzar> DaveQB sorry im totally new to linux, can you give me a hand?
[03:29] <DaveQB> tzar: sure
[03:29] <DaveQB> shoot
[03:29] <uniq> tzar: the current stables are warty, hoary, breezy and dapper. which do you want? :)
[03:29] <Chris_H> im a relative newbie too, i'll join in here
[03:30] <Healot> tzar: new indeed...
[03:30] <DaveQB> just ask the questions fella's....
[03:30] <Chris_H> right, which version do i get? im downloading a dvd .iso via torrent
[03:30] <tzar> well i want to  middle  between   stable and buggy
[03:30] <uniq> tzar: which version are you currently running?
[03:30] <Ahmuck> does a polka dotted cow lose thier spots if they eat too many roses ?
[03:30] <Chris_H> there's 3 on the server
[03:31] <tzar> ive just installed dapper
[03:31] <r0xz> Chris_H: the version is in the torrent name
[03:31] <r0xz> Chris_H: 6.06 is dapper
[03:31] <Healot> btw ubuntu just release the latest stable version
[03:31] <uniq> tzar: dapper is the most recent stable.
[03:31] <osh__> tzar: dapper is the latest release. I've found some bugs. I think. It looks more or less ok though.
[03:31] <tzar> i see
[03:31] <Chris_H> which do i need? there's amd64, i386 and powerpc
[03:32] <CaptainMorgan> thanks uniq.. .but now it appears there's some app's missing from the add/remove
[03:32] <tzar> what is the latest  middle ?
[03:32] <uniq> tzar: in ubuntu you can not choose to track 'unstable' the same way you can with debian. as unstable in ubuntu becomes stable.
[03:32] <Healot> Chris_H: what CPU do you have?
[03:32] <osh__> tzar: most bugs I've found are in some applications, not dapper iteslf...
[03:32] <Chris_H> it's quite an old one, but got a newer hard drive and 256 ram
[03:32] <Chris_H> it's made by Evesham
[03:32] <CaptainMorgan> I enabled and added 'multiverse' to both deb and src universe's.... as well others that said universe such as security
[03:32] <Healot> Chris_H: just the name
[03:32] <Chris_H> im using it as a second computer/project
[03:33] <Chris_H> Evesham something
[03:33] <Chris_H> i havent a clue
[03:33] <Healot> Chris_H: Pentium III?
[03:33] <Healot> does the name contains Intel/AMD/Cyrix/VIA?
[03:33] <Chris_H> no, it's AMD Athlon...
[03:33] <Healot> the you'll need the "i386"
[03:33] <Chris_H> thanks healot
[03:33] <Memorice> why
[03:33] <Chris_H> so are the 3 for different processors?
[03:33] <Memorice> AMD can be 64bit...
[03:34] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> true
[03:34] <Healot> Memorice: he said OLD, and it's AMD Athlon, and I am very sure it's a 32-bit
[03:34] <tzar> uniq, osh_,  what is the middle distro i guess?
[03:34] <DaveQB> I am betting x86 Athlon too
[03:34] <Chris_H> when i first got it, there was 128mb RAM and a 20 gig hard drive
[03:35] <Chris_H> and that was pretty good back then
[03:35] <afm\colo> use i386
[03:35] <Chris_H> so from that...
[03:35] <DaveQB> an AMD64 with a 20gig HDD and 128 RAM ? Memorice
[03:35] <DaveQB> :)
[03:36] <Healot> the keyword OLD :-
[03:37] <r0xz> Chris_H: that system is problably at least 5 years old, probably 6. So i386 is it. (although i also use just i386 on a new system here)
[03:37] <osh__> tzar: breezy
[03:37] <Chris_H> yeah, that's about right r0xz
[03:37] <osh__> tzar: works well, a little out of date but more up to date than debian-stable.
[03:37] <uniq> tzar: there is no middle distro, more info at: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases
[03:37] <Chris_H> as i said, my dad got the hard drive and the ram upgraded, but...
[03:38] <Chris_H> left the rest :P
[03:38] <r0xz> hehe
[03:38] <ubuntu_> I have a notebook Acer Extensa 2902LMi, and neither Bluetooth ("No BT device found") nor Wireless (device can not be switched on) do work, both devices are built-in.
[03:39] <ubuntu_> When the screensaver activated, I could not unlock it. The ubuntu pw was empty, but just hitting enter did not work.
[03:39] <Chris_H> the other thing is this..
[03:39] <vonHalenbach> acer is cheap crab.
[03:39] <Healot> it is
[03:39] <vonHalenbach> hihi
[03:39] <Healot> that's why people buy it
[03:39] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> but it gets the job done
[03:39] <vonHalenbach> yes.
[03:39] <ubuntu_> vonHalenbach: That does not solve the problem.
[03:39] <Healot> Apple Computers are expensive but affordable :)
[03:40] <Chris_H> .see im a bit of a newbie, and i was wondering if there's a list on the internet anywhere of like windows programs and their linux equivalents?
[03:40] <Chris_H> i've googled, to no avail
[03:40] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Apple SUCKS!!!!!!!!
[03:40] <Healot> Chris_H: just throw the name to us
[03:40] <ubuntu_> Healot: What do you mean with "people like you"?
[03:40] <Chris_H> okay
[03:40] <Healot> ubuntu_: did I say that to you?
[03:40] <Chris_H> i'll keep that in mind
[03:41] <Chris_H> i have heard that some soundcards aren't liked by linux?
[03:41] <DaveQB> Chris_H:  Go to cybertechhelp forums and see my sig there, there's a link to a huge list
[03:41] <ubuntu_> Healot: yes, obviously.
[03:41] <Healot> when?
[03:41] <Chris_H> great, cheers DaveQB
[03:41] <DaveQB> Chris_H:  cant make it too easy for you ;-)
[03:41] <Chris_H> :D
[03:41] <DaveQB> i think its cybertechhelp.com
[03:41] <DaveQB> but google can help there
[03:42] <mth`MAW> Jo, guys, I have installed kBeagleBar via configure, make , checkinstall but I cannont start that tool.. does anybody knows where it hides?
[03:42] <Chris_H> got it Dave
[03:42] <ubuntu_> Healot: oh, I misread you. But you are right, I bought it because it was affordable to me.
[03:42] <DaveQB> Chris_H: well done, that was fast indeed
[03:42] <osh__> Chris_H: I think there was a list of some sort on kde.org. Naturally it focuses on kde-apps though.
[03:42] <osh__> Chris_H: Can't seem to find it now. :-/
[03:43] <Chris_H> wait, Dave... you dont appear to have a signature on there
[03:43] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Chris_H here is one
[03:43] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[03:43] <Healot> i just lovet the joke about the word "affordable" and "cheap"
[03:44] <Chris_H> brill, cheers
[03:44] <ubuntu_> Healot: it was no joke for me, though... it still was expensive enough.
[03:44] <DaveQB> Chris_H: yeah I should so
[03:44] <DaveQB> do
[03:44] <Chris_H> i cant see it, do i have to sign up to view your sigs?
[03:44] <Healot> nah... I don't have Acer, just the low-entry Lenovo's
[03:45] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Chris_H, did you check the link I gave you?
[03:45] <ubuntu_> so the "it just works" was not true for me with the new dapper. :-(
[03:45] <Healot> see made in China products are really an International thing
[03:45] <Healot> ubuntu_: you should read Linux HCL though
[03:45] <DaveQB> Chris_H: i'll get it .
[03:45] <Healot> many manufacturers are reluctant to support free software/OSes
[03:46] <ubuntu_> Healot: well...
[03:46] <tzar> anyone know a good wireless network manager ?
[03:46] <DaveQB> Chris_H: you cant see a sig here ? http://www.cybertechhelp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=627526&postcount=21
[03:46] <ubuntu_> I suppose the wlan problem is the missing acerhk thingy.
[03:46] <DaveQB> Chris_H: its the same as the one LiNuX_LoVeR_17 posted ^
[03:46] <Healot> ubuntu_: my Lenovo lover works out of the box with Dapper/Breezy releases
[03:46] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> lol
[03:47] <uniq> tzar: network-manager-kde
[03:47] <Healot> maybe not the wifi card, but I got my own RT2xxx USB wifi bs
[03:47] <ubuntu_> Healot: price tag?
[03:47] <uniq> my ibook works out of the box with dapper too. apple is so sweet :)
[03:47] <Healot> ubuntu_: it is in some non-US price tag, RM 2500 (MYR)
[03:47] <Healot> just divide by 3.7
[03:48] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I hate apple
[03:48] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> they have way over priced things
[03:48] <uniq> what's to hate?
[03:48] <uniq> my ibook wasn't overpriced at all.
[03:48] <Healot> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: you bought any Mac?
[03:48] <ubuntu_> Healot: wondering if you suggested to buy this lenovo notebook in order to install dapper with running wireless
[03:48] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> No Never and never will
[03:49] <Healot> my mini rocks
[03:49] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I have worked on a Mac and I hated it!
[03:49] <Healot> ubuntu_: kinda
[03:49] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> The most awkward thing ever!
[03:49] <uniq> linux_lover_17:on a mac with linux?
[03:49] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> no
[03:49] <Healot> well they say Lenovo/IBM is the best with most Linux distros
[03:49] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> but I suppose it is much better
[03:49] <ubuntu_> Healot: not really free as on OS then...
[03:49] <afm\colo> Lenovo does not support GNU/Linux any more
[03:49] <Chris_H> i have one more question as per the linux thing
[03:49] <uniq> ibook with kubuntu is really nice.
[03:50] <afm\colo> i would not buy because of ideological reasons any more, at least
[03:50] <ubuntu_> afm\colo: that's  what I learned today, too
[03:50] <uniq> chris_h: shoot.
[03:50] <Chris_H> i remember from the last time i tried with kubuntu that USB modems + Linux dont get along
[03:50] <DaveQB> Chris_H: yeah rarely do
[03:50] <Healot> afm\colo: it's not the manufacturer's thing, it's the hardware compatibilty that concerns me
[03:50] <afm\colo> usb-modems are a total abomination
[03:50] <afm\colo> a spwan of hellkind
[03:50] <afm\colo> an unnatural thing
[03:50] <uniq> I have not used a USB modem, ever.
[03:50] <afm\colo> they should not exist
[03:50] <DaveQB> LOL @ afm\colo
[03:50] <afm\colo> for real, DaveQB ;)
[03:51] <DaveQB> some do work under linux i have read
[03:51] <ubuntu_> afm\colo: so what modem do you use with a notebook with a winmodem and without a serial interface, like mine?
[03:51] <Healot> anyway a good way for migrating to Linux, is a lot of research on Linux HCL...
[03:51] <afm\colo> ubuntu_: well, I for one, don't use analog modems at all anymore
[03:52] <Healot> just like Windows HCL, not everything will work,,,
[03:52] <afm\colo> and i'm glad about that ;)
[03:52] <Healot> afm\colo: GSM/GPRS modem rocks :s
[03:52] <uniq> chris_h: what's the name and number of your USB modem?
[03:52] <ubuntu_> I'll go to russia for some weeks, and there I won't have dsl like at home. So what now?
[03:53] <afm\colo> i'd prefer HSDPA ;)
[03:53] <ubuntu_> It's easy to brag, but it doesn't help anybody.
[03:53] <afm\colo> ubuntu_: i believe the Elsa Microlink USB devices are said to work with the Linux kernel
[03:54] <ubuntu_> ok, thanks. I'll try first with an ultron thing, which is said to work with redhet. I'll see.
[03:56] <Chris_H> name and number?
[03:56] <Chris_H> gimme a sec
[03:56] <Chris_H> Sagem F@st 800 E2L PE
[03:57] <uniq> chris_h: try to search http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ for it.
[04:01] <boolka> ive got dapper, and a hp pavillion zt3000 laptop, im trying to get my wireless working,  it sees my router, but wont connect to it ... wont work with kubuntu either... please help
[04:02] <vinboy> hi
[04:02] <vinboy> anyone got XGL going on kubuntu?
[04:02] <jpatrick> !xgl
[04:02] <ubotu> xgl is, like, totally, "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[04:02] <Chris_H> k, thanks uniq
[04:02] <vinboy> thanks
[04:03] <uniq> chris_h: if it's not there, it most likely is not supported on linux.
[04:04] <Chris_H> doesnt look like it
[04:04] <THY733T> is there anybody can connect to irc.flightgear.org?
[04:05] <uniq> thy733t: please ask that kind of questions in #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:06] <Chris_H> there's a Sagem USB modem driver, but not my model
[04:06] <THY733T> sorry
[04:06] <Chris_H> http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3367 <-- will that work at all?
[04:07] <uniq> chris_h: probably not.
[04:07] <pjhsv> Hi guys...I was wondering if someone could help me.  I downloaded Kubuntu 6.06, burnt the CD, booted the live disc on my laptop and all worked good.  When I installed it though, it can't find my PCMCIA network card anymore??  dmesg has an entry "cs: unable to map card memory!"   I don't have any entries at all relating to PCMCIA stuff when I use lspci ...i have no idea what the problem is...any help?
[04:12] <kronoz> pjhsv, have you tried configing it with system settings > connections?
[04:12] <mezz> chris_h I'm coming into the middle of this conversation, but have you tried the offical Sagem linux driver?
[04:14] <pjhsv> I don't have system settings > connections.  I have system > networking.  and in there, it doesn't come up. ?
[04:14] <mezz> chris_h: I had a f@st 800 a while ago and managed to get it working without any problems in mandriva, I seem to remember there is an unofficial Linux driver going around too
[04:14] <Chris_H> ooh, didnt know there was one
[04:14] <Chris_H> thanks mezz, i'll look into it now
[04:15] <mezz> chris_h: I've just found the unofficial one which I used to use (I never got the offical one to work) that is here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/eagle-usb/
[04:15] <pjhsv> is it normal for my /etc/pcmcia directory to be empty ?
[04:15] <jaims> anyone has dapper system with ati radeon igp 345m up and running?
[04:16] <xwolf-> last version of stellarium (with breezy) ran peachy with ~60fps, the new one (and now in dapper) runs with 2fps MAX... anything missing?
[04:16] <Chris_H> wow, thanks mezz :D
[04:19] <Hobbsee> !info kdelibs-dev
[04:19] <mezz> chris_h no probs, glad to help :)
[04:19] <Terminus> hello. question, will there be any updates to the kde stuff in dapper or will i have to enable backports?
[04:19] <Terminus> just wondering about the stuff that's still broken...
[04:21] <jpatrick> Terminus: sudo -s && echo "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list && wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg && sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:21] <jpatrick> ^voila
[04:21] <Terminus> jpatrick: so i take it there won't really be a lot of fixing done with 3.5.2 and i should just move to 3.5.3?
[04:21] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: && exit, presumably
[04:21] <MidMark> guys I've changed via control panel the resolution of my lcd, and now only in the login screen I have a virtual desktop, I can I fix it?
[04:21] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: oh yeah
[04:21] <jpatrick> Terminus: yes
[04:22] <Terminus> jpatrick: okidokie. and 3.5.3 will never be in backports?
[04:22] <jpatrick> you don't need the "sudo"'s there, just the first one
[04:22] <jpatrick> Terminus: could go there
[04:23] <Terminus> jpatrick: ok. thanks. :)
[04:23] <prxq> Which password does the cups web interface want? (I am trying this because the kde frontend only said "permission denied" and left it at that)
[04:23] <Terminus> i just don't want to mix up the packages from the main repos and the jriddell stuff.
[04:23] <xwolf-> !nvidia
[04:23] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:25] <boolka> I cant get my internet to work on my laptop, wired or wireless, ubuntu, dapper, hp zt3000 laptop... any help would be much appreciated
[04:26] <MidMark> none that knows why my desktop login is oversized?
[04:27] <CaptainMorgan> how do I conigure shortcuts/hotkeys?
[04:27] <h3sp4wn> boolka: Is your internet different to mine ? I thought there was just one internet ??? - have a look in lshw (and find out the makes of each of the cards under network)
[04:27] <apokryphos> CaptainMorgan: from system settings, or kcontrol
[04:28] <CaptainMorgan> yes, but where in sys settings....
[04:28] <apokryphos> CaptainMorgan: not sure, since I can't check it now; something like "input actions"?
[04:29] <xwolf-> how do i know if nvidia drivers are installed?
[04:30] <CaptainMorgan> I don't think it's in sys settings.... oddly enough
[04:30] <EvilIdler> xwolf-: glxinfo should show
[04:30] <apokryphos> xwolf-: if your xorg.conf is running with the "nvidia" driver selected, then it's there
[04:30] <boolka> h3sp4wn, sorry im new to linux world.
[04:30] <CaptainMorgan> cuz I have spent the past 3 hours in there..
[04:30] <CaptainMorgan> not solely looking for it, just I never came across it and now I can't find it
[04:30] <apokryphos> CaptainMorgan: searched for anything like shortcut?
[04:31] <xwolf-> 'glxinfo | grep nvidia' returns nothing
[04:31] <apokryphos> xwolf-: grep -i?
[04:31] <h3sp4wn> boolka: Open konsole from the k menu -> system -> konsole (terminal program)
[04:31] <xwolf-> apokryphos neither.
[04:31] <viggo> I have just installed kubuntu 6.06 on a machine witch used to run Mandriva 2006. And I am having a 'encoding' problem. It looks like Mandriva used ISO-8859-1 encoding for filenames and file content. And ubuntu uses UTF-8. Any hints on how to get it converted correctly would be nice :-)
[04:31] <apokryphos> xwolf-: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep -i nvidia?
[04:31] <EvilIdler> xwolf-: glxinfo without any pipes. Page full of text = drivers active :)
[04:32] <boolka> h3sp4wn, i got 2, one wireless one  ethernet.  Ethernet :  Realtek Smeiconductor Co,   Wireless:  PRO/Wireless 2200BG, Intel Corp
[04:32] <h3sp4wn> boolka: Did the network during installation ?
[04:32] <h3sp4wn> boolka: Are you using dapper ?
[04:32] <boolka> not sure, yes
[04:32] <xwolf-> xorg.conf has two lines: Identifier and Device, with the card's pretty name on it
[04:32] <xwolf-> :)
[04:33] <boolka> h3sp4wn, they both get the correct IP
[04:33] <xwolf-> i mean xorg.conf piped to grep
[04:33] <xwolf-> ;P
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> booka: You can only have one default route at a time
[04:33] <EvilIdler> xwolf-: Then if you can run glxgears without X dying, everything is OK ;)
[04:33] <apokryphos> xwolf-: huh? Do you get   Driver       "nvidia"
[04:34] <MidMark> are you talking about xorg.conf perfect, can you help me? I have a login desktop oversized, can you help me?
[04:34] <xwolf-> apokryphos Driver is "nv"
[04:34] <apokryphos> MidMark: change your refresh rate
[04:34] <EvilIdler> xwolf-: Then it's NOT the real driver
[04:34] <apokryphos> xwolf-: then you're not using the nvidia driver
[04:34] <apokryphos> xwolf-: /msg ubotu nvidia
[04:34] <boolka> h3sp4wn yes, first i tried wireless, it saw the router, got the static ip, but internet dont work, then i plugged in the cat5, it got the ip, internet still dont work
[04:34] <CaptainMorgan> ok.. Im convinced shortcuts/hotkeys can't be configured
[04:34] <MidMark> apokryphos: it's 75 I have to put 60? Mine is lcd
[04:34] <apokryphos> CaptainMorgan: alt+f2 -> kcontrol > accessibility > input actions ?
[04:34] <h3sp4wn> boolka: Both using the same ip ?
[04:35] <apokryphos> MidMark: try that, yeah
[04:35] <boolka> h3sp4wn no
[04:35] <CaptainMorgan> ah... Kcontrol.. where were you hiding...
[04:35] <CaptainMorgan> jeez
[04:36] <apokryphos> CaptainMorgan: everything in kcontrol is in systemsettings
[04:36] <apokryphos> just might be named something different
[04:36] <h3sp4wn> boolka: can you ping the ipaddress of the router - can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[04:36] <CaptainMorgan> ok.. but keyboard shortcuts are in Regional and Accessibility? not what I figured.. figured keyboard
[04:36] <kronoz_> how can I install tux racer?
[04:37] <kronoz_> i installed planetpenguin-racer but i find it
[04:37] <kronoz_> *i can't find it
[04:37] <h3sp4wn> boolka: You want to specifically disable the interface you are not using (i.e the wireless)
[04:37] <apokryphos> kronoz_: fire up adept and install tuxracer
[04:37] <MidMark> apokryphos: but why refresh have to change desktop resolution?
[04:37] <apokryphos> MidMark: it shouldn't
[04:38] <homer77_> kronoz_: not in Games - Arcade?
[04:38] <jpatrick> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/757653
[04:38] <jpatrick> ^anyone know how I can change that?
[04:38] <apokryphos> MidMark: I don't actually have a clue why that happens, just noticed in the past that some desktops determine the resolution incorrectly if you don't have a given refresh rate
[04:38] <kronoz_> homer77, i install the dummy package tuxracer-extras becuase that was all i could find
[04:38] <MidMark> apokryphos: ok try and back
[04:39] <kronoz_> and no, it isn't on the k menu
[04:39] <h3sp4wn> Why do you need tux racer is planetpenguin-racer not a better fork or something
[04:40] <apokryphos> kronoz_: is it installed?
[04:40] <apokryphos> !info tuxracer
[04:40] <ubotu> tuxracer: (dummy transition package), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.61-7 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 44 kB
[04:40] <jpatrick> found it: /etc/motd
[04:40] <kronoz_> apokryphos: thats what i installed
[04:40] <homer77> kronoz_: can u find it in the bash?
[04:40] <kronoz_> !info planetpenguin-racer
[04:40] <apokryphos> jpatrick: curious; any idea why motd?
[04:40] <ubotu> planetpenguin-racer: (another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin), section universe/games, is optional. Version: 0.3.1-2build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 240 kB, Installed size: 788 kB
[04:40] <h3sp4wn> planet penguin racer is the new version of it
[04:40] <kronoz_> homer77, no
[04:40] <apokryphos> kronoz_: alt+f2 > tuxracer ?
[04:40] <jpatrick> apokryphos: message of the day
[04:40] <apokryphos> ah
[04:41] <kronoz_> homer77, whereis planetpenguin-racer shows nothing either
[04:41] <kronoz_> apokryphos: nope
[04:41] <homer77> kronoz_ thats strange ...
[04:41] <apokryphos> ok, one sec
[04:41] <xwolf-> now check out, wiki says i have to install linux-restricted-modules for my kernel, there is linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-386 (already installed) and linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-686 (not installed). kcontrol says my kernel is <IP_ADDRESS>-386, but shouldnt i be installed the restricted modules that match my processor (a pentium IV)?
[04:42] <boolka> h3sp4wn, when i do  ping <IP_ADDRESS> ( router ip)  it does this:    ping  <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.   Then all the rest of the lines are  " From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable"
[04:42] <kronoz_> homer77, i installed kdegames but i still have no games menu in the k menu
[04:42] <homer77> kronoz_: try ppracer in bash
[04:42] <apokryphos> xwolf-: no, you don't have to install that. Follow the instuctions for installing nvidia driver the conventional way
[04:42] <Blizzz> is there currently no live-cd-image for download available?
[04:42] <kronoz_> homer77, that works!
[04:43] <kronoz_> but is there a way to update the kmenu to show kdegames?
[04:43] <apokryphos> Blizzz: sure there is; /topic
[04:43] <xwolf-> apokryphos it's there https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:43] <homer77> kronoz_ : except of reinstalling it? i guess with dpkg-reconfigure ... but not sure ...
[04:43] <keffo> easy kubuntu available?
[04:44] <kronoz_> homer77, anything like menu-update ?
[04:44] <kronoz_> it doesn't even show in the menu editor which stuff ususally does...
[04:44] <apokryphos> xwolf-: breezy/dapper?
[04:44] <xwolf-> dapper
[04:45] <homer77> no, not as i know , because menu is only edited while installation i think ...
[04:45] <apokryphos> xwolf-: install nvidia-glx, reconfigure your xorg with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure you select the "nvidia" driver
[04:45] <homer77> kronoz_: I'll take a look, what i did install ...
[04:45] <xwolf-> right
[04:46] <apokryphos> xwolf-: then ctrl+alt+backspace and voila; nvidia drivers 8)
[04:46] <h3sp4wn> blooka: Have a look a ifconfig (from konsole) do sudo ifdown wirelessinterfacename(eth1 or whatever it is you will see from the ips) sudo ifdown wired interface sudo ifup wiredinterface (the interface names are in the output of ifconfig)
[04:46] <CaptainMorgan> peace peeps
[04:46] <homer77> kronoz_ : hm ... i didn't use kdegames ...
[04:47] <osh__> guys, if apache2 is installed, it does provide the vpackage "httpd", correct? if so, shouldn't the package wordpress NOT insist on installing apache-common and some other apache1.3-module?
[04:47] <TheFuzzball> hello, I have a problem with KDE... when I start it, it says "cannot Open Theme file /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu"
[04:47] <h3sp4wn> boolka: You may want to look at the output of route if that doesn't work (check that the line default         alien.lan       <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 ath0 is going to the correct interface for me it is ath0)
[04:47] <Flosoft> hey
[04:47] <Flosoft> is anyone else experiencing an extremely slow amarok since the update to the new KDE (Amarok 1.4.0) ?
[04:48] <homer77> kronoz_: ... but installed planetpenguin directly ... I would recommend reconfigure with dpkg ... nothing else i could think of ...
[04:48] <Flosoft> especially while it is loading songs into the playlist?
[04:48] <apokryphos> nope
[04:48] <h3sp4wn> Not at all
[04:48] <boolka> h3sp4wn, how do i do that
[04:48] <osh__> Flosoft: i'm still on the old kde so I can't help you there.
[04:49] <h3sp4wn> booklka: run 'route' from konsole
[04:50] <h3sp4wn> bookla: If you are trying to use network manager I don't understand fully how it works (and never seems to work well for me so I just use the old way)
[04:51] <boolka> h3sp4wn i got 4 lines of response
[04:51] <TheFuzzball> I have a critical KDE problem I have unistalled and re-installed several times using sudo apt-get remove kdm and sudo apt-get install kdm, but this doesn't seem to help, when I start it it says "cannot open Theme File /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu", when I press ok it comes up wit ha normal enough login window, but when I attempt to log-in it reloads and gives me the same error
[04:51] <boolka> im trying to get my internet to work for now
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> boolka: Do you have default in twice ?
[04:52] <TheFuzzball> can someone tell me how to fix, I am using Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper
[04:52] <boolka> yes
[04:52] <boolka> eth0 and eth1
[04:52] <MidMark> it was a 'virtual 1792 1344' in the xorg.conf, but why only login screen suffer of this problems?
[04:53] <h3sp4wn> boolka: You need to disable one or the other but I don't know how to do it from network manager
[04:53] <boolka> i know :)
[04:53] <TheFuzzball> hello?
[04:53] <icer> TheFuzzball: apt-get install ubuntu-artwork
[04:53] <TheFuzzball> k
[04:53] <MidMark> and also why every time I change something in display it come back the virtual ...
[04:53] <TheFuzzball> thanks
[04:54] <boolka> omg
[04:54] <boolka> h3sp4wn
[04:54] <boolka> it works
[04:54] <boolka> it works!!!!
[04:54] <cdromke> hello ppl :)
[04:54] <MidMark> someone that has succesfull putted on surround in amarok could explain how?
[04:55] <cdromke> i just reinstalled kubuntu after a dist-upgrade totally fucked up my previous installation
[04:55] <cdromke> i used the alternate installation
[04:55] <boolka> h3sp4wn thanks alot!!!
[04:55] <TheFuzzball> icer: it still gives me the same error
[04:55] <cdromke> but the problem is that i can't play music or something
[04:55] <cdromke> my sound doesn't work
[04:56] <cdromke> but my soundcards are recognized
[04:57] <keffo> Are there any stability issues I should be aware of regarding the amd64 release & dualcore? I have a 100% failrate right now, random freezes
[04:57] <cdromke> i wonder how i could fix this problem
[04:57] <cdromke> because it's really annoying
[04:59] <cdromke> anyone?
[04:59] <TheFuzzball> I have a critical KDE problem I have unistalled and re-installed several times using sudo apt-get remove kdm and sudo apt-get install kdm, but this doesn't seem to help, when I start it it says "cannot open Theme File /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu", when I press ok it comes up wit ha normal enough login window, but when I attempt to log-in it reloads and gives me the same error
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> boolka: If you wanted to use wireless you would have to disable the wired interface in the same way
[04:59] <boolka> yep going to try that right now
[05:00] <boolka> just getting the updates
[05:00] <icer> TheFuzzball: mmm, try apt-get install kubuntu-default-settings
[05:00] <TheFuzzball> k
[05:00] <h3sp4wn> boolka: That intel chipset is supported natively so there should be no messing around (and it did get an ip before which means wpa or whatever is working)
[05:02] <TheFuzzball> thank you very much, it has worked
[05:04] <vassilis> hello everyone
[05:05] <keffo> Has this type of thing happened to anyone else?
[05:07] <vassilis> is this irc alive?
[05:07] <jpatrick> could be
[05:07] <EvilIdler> 268 idlers :)
[05:08] <vassilis> is anyone offering technical support?
[05:08] <vassilis> I have a problem with apt-get
[05:08] <PyroMithrandir> !ask
[05:08] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:08] <EvilIdler> That depends. Ask, and if anyone has a solution, you get one ;)
[05:08] <LeeJunFan> The box said "Requires Windows 95 or better." I can't understand why it won't work on my Linux computer.
[05:08] <vassilis> alright
[05:09] <vassilis> I tried to install sun-java5-sdk with adept
[05:09] <vassilis> the package was reportd "BROKEN"
[05:09] <vassilis> and now I cannot remove it
[05:10] <vassilis> it says it is in a bad inconsistent state
[05:10] <EvilIdler> vassilis: 'apt-get -f install' not doing any good either?
[05:10] <vassilis> no
[05:10] <EvilIdler> vassilis: Breezy or Dapper?
[05:10] <vassilis> Dapper
[05:11] <vassilis> apt-get -f install
[05:11] <vassilis> opops
[05:11] <vassilis> sorry
[05:11] <_mek_> vassilis, I guess dpkg might help you if you cant fix it with apt-get -f install
[05:12] <vassilis> dpkg? how do i use that?
[05:12] <vassilis> oh wait
[05:13] <EvilIdler> vassilis: In extreme cases, I just "dpkg --purge packagename"
[05:13] <vassilis> it says sun-dlj-v1-1 license could not be presentes
[05:13] <vassilis> any help?
[05:13] <Blaidd>  I have a quic (hopefully) question for someone.. how do I remove rivafb support from myt kernel?
[05:14] <vassilis> I think the dpkg --purge hint helped
[05:14] <vassilis> thanks a lot
[05:17] <keffo> Soo.. nobody knows anything about constant freezes in the 6.06 amd64 release then?
[05:19] <mezz> sorry, don't use 64bit. Can't really see the point tbh
[05:19] <mezz> u looked on the 64bit forums?
[05:19] <keffo> Yeah
[05:20] <keffo> Fresh 6.06 install, first reboot after install = freeze at "restoring session", second boot = freeze opening adept, third boot = freeze somewhere in systemsettings... 4th boot still going though =)
[05:21] <osh__> what processes could lock the package database? adept, apt-get, aptitude? anything else?
[05:21] <mezz> ouch, sounds painful.
[05:21] <tyfon_> keffo: sounds like bad hardware.. bad ram or something
[05:21] <PyroMithrandir> osh__ synaptic
[05:21] <PyroMithrandir> osh__, apt-cache might
[05:22] <mash_>  I've got .php files associated with Quanta, however every time I open a php file it creates another instance of Quanta.. is there a way around this??
[05:22] <osh__> nope, none of them running. what else could cause a lock?
[05:22] <LeeJunFan> osh__: adept-notifier
[05:22] <keffo> tyfon: The disc is rather old, but breezy worked great. (and xp is perfectly stable)
[05:22] <LeeJunFan> osh__: there's also a cronjob that does apt-get update
[05:23] <osh__> LeeJunFan: Ok. good to know. Still, nothing with "apt" in it running now but the database is still locked. :-/
[05:23] <tyfon_> keffo: then i cant help, but it definitivly sounds like classic ram problem ;) (random crashes/lockups)
[05:23] <osh__> Where's the database? Could I do an fuser on it to see what's holding it?
[05:25] <keffo> tyfon: I do wanna try installing the gfxcard properly, but the nvidia config complains that binutils (ld) is not installed, but it is..
[05:27] <adma> hey guys!
[05:28] <adma> after several hours of surfing the web I still cannot find out how to install flash on my 64bit kubuntu distribution... :( any suggestions?
[05:28] <threat_> wefgsdgdagsdiodfjidhnijuugheauighaweituw09eguodfnb283909r520398hgnjdfnbq9384tghidjnvpqwt0hed
[05:28] <adma> remember...I'm totally new at this!
[05:29] <shulman> what's the best way to set up twinview on dapper drake ?
[05:30] <nrg88> hi, in dapper I experience kicker crashes
[05:30] <kubuntu_newbie> hello folks
[05:30] <osh__> adma: last time I checked there wasn't a 64-bit flash availible. That was about a year ago though.
[05:30] <mezz> adma: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava?highlight=%28flash%29
[05:30] <nrg88> sometimes it takes 2-3 hours, and then kicker simply freezez
[05:30] <nrg88> I have updated to KDE 3.5.3
[05:30] <kubuntu_newbie> what is the repository where can I find rar-non-free?
[05:30] <osh__> !tell osh__ about flash
[05:31] <ctothej> my azureus popup notifications keep hanging (they wont close when i press hide). anyone come across this before? any possible reasons?
[05:31] <cdromke> hmm
[05:31] <cdromke> can i ask mu question again?
[05:31] <cdromke> my*
[05:31] <cdromke> well... atm i'm downloading the normal ubuntu cd
[05:32] <cdromke> but in kubuntu i can't get the sound to work
[05:32] <osh__> !tell adma about flash
[05:32] <kubuntu_newbie> I added backports repository but adept doesnt find it
[05:32] <kubuntu_newbie> nobody may help me?
[05:32] <mezz> ctothej: I had the same problem every now and then, I switched to ktorrent :)
[05:32] <osh__> adma: there's some information there about 64bit flash. not very encouraging though.
[05:33] <gery> anyone has a good sourceslist to update from breezy to dapper? I installed the first time kubuntu, and then automatix, and now I've changed my sources.list but aptitude wants to remove 165 packages
[05:33] <mezz> that wiki page I posted about using flash on a 64bit system seemed pretty positive to me, it claims to work
[05:33] <ctothej> mezz: i am using ktorrent now too, but i feel like i am missing some of the features of azureus
[05:33] <ctothej> mezz: at least i know thats its just not me!
[05:34] <mezz> ctothej: the ktorrent beta 2 has the one feature I missed, which is prioritising of particular files
[05:34] <cdromke> !tell cdromke about sound
[05:34] <visik7> hi
[05:34] <visik7> I've a problem
[05:34] <ctothej> mezz: definitely. is it stable enough to use full time?
[05:35] <mezz> ctothej: I only started using it today, but have had no problems yet
[05:35] <visik7> things in /usr/share/menu aren't display in Kmenu
[05:35] <visik7> not all
[05:35] <visik7> but most
[05:35] <ctothej> mezz: sweet. ill give it a shot.
[05:36] <cius> damn, easyubuntu spitting errors out at me
[05:36] <mezz> ctothej: there is a how to here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188530
[05:36] <james_xxx> cius: that is how easyubuntu has been for me, too
[05:36] <ctothej> mezz: thanks bro
[05:37] <mezz> ctothej: no probs, hope it works for you too :)
[05:39] <kubuntu_newbie> well, I dowloaded application and putted in '/usr/local/bin'
[05:39] <kubuntu_newbie> this chan isnt helpful
[05:39] <kubuntu_newbie> bye
[05:39] <ctothej> mezz: you didnt have to uninstall ktorrent 1 right?
[05:40] <gery> Hi, anybody with breezy and automatix has upgraded to dapper without a clean installation? Could writte me your sources.list?
[05:40] <ctothej> i have some files going now... i dont want it just shutting it down!
[05:40] <mezz> ctothej: nope, I didn't bother.
[05:40] <ctothej> nice
[05:41] <mezz> it kept my uploads, I just closed it, insalled the new one, and opened it up again and the old files were there again, nice and easy :)
[05:41] <ctothej> oh sweet.
[05:43] <abloylas> what firewall do you recommend for a newbie on kubuntu?
[05:44] <uniq> abloylas: guarddog.
[05:44] <abloylas> uniq: why that and not eg firestarter?
[05:46] <Hawkwind> I'd recommend ipkungfu
[05:47] <abloylas> can i hear some reasons for your recommendations?
[05:47] <kronoz> how can i make yakuake start on kde start?
[05:47] <Hawkwind> It's simple, very easy to setup.  I set it up myself after only using linux for 2 days.  That was 4+ years ago and I've used it ever since
[05:47] <Hawkwind> abloylas: Plus I know the maintainer/creator personally.  He used to be an op in #Mandrake which is the distro I've run for 4+ years
[05:48] <EvilIdler> kronoz: Don't quit. KDE is session managed, so programs you leave open are there when you log in next time.
[05:48] <abloylas> Hawkwind i'l check it out, thanks
[05:48] <buz> remains the question if theres even a need for a firewall under kubuntu
[05:48] <admin_> Hello!
[05:49] <abloylas> does gnome/kde matter when chosing a firewall?
[05:49] <buz> no
[05:49] <buz> firewalls live in the kernel
[05:49] <Hawkwind> abloylas: No not at all
[05:49] <abloylas> buz: please explain, i want a nice easy gui
[05:50] <Pitou> I have a little issue with dapper.
[05:50] <EvilIdler> Linux iptables can do more than the simple firewalls on Windows, including some smoothing of transfers when you have a lot data pumping in and out.
[05:50] <buz> to be short, choose the gui
[05:50] <Pitou> When I reboot, the SATA HD turn off, any idea?
[05:50] <buz> they all talk to iptables anyway
[05:50] <abloylas> i know nothing of ip tables, im a noob
[05:50] <abloylas> just want a wall between me and the bad guys
[05:51] <vonHalenbach> use firestarter.
[05:51] <abloylas> vonHalenbach: why firestarter?
[05:51] <vonHalenbach> that is a good tool.
[05:51] <vonHalenbach> easy to use.
[05:51] <EvilIdler> Firestarter did not treat me well :/
[05:51] <abloylas> EvilIdler: what happened?
[05:52] <EvilIdler> It made some strange rules by default which blocked IM client and server, TeamSpeak and SSH
[05:52] <abloylas> i just come over from windows, pretty much
[05:52] <vonHalenbach> Yea, that is security.
[05:53] <EvilIdler> Securing me from using my own friggin' network! Yay!
[05:53] <abloylas> if something is blocked by firestarter, does it ask/remind you to allow or not?
[05:54] <EvilIdler> In my case, it just set up a long list of iptables rules without asking when I chose a "typical" setup
[05:54] <vonHalenbach> Evill you do know your ports well and can unlock them easily.
[05:54] <zblach> hi. quick question. dapper gives me the option of setting a documents folder. i'm dual-booting, so i've made a 4.5GB fat32 partition for all documents in both operating systems. how can I get this working correctly?
[05:54] <EvilIdler> Yeah, so I just use iptables directly myself :)
[05:54] <zblach> (win xp Pro + dapper)
[05:54] <abloylas> i don't want to be blocked and get stuck on something i don't understand
[05:54] <abloylas> need easy gui
[05:55] <EvilIdler> For a newbie, it can be risky. An open-by-default interface to the firewall would be good, with different blockable tasks listed.
[05:55] <vonHalenbach> EvilIdler: you are a big hacker.
[05:55] <EvilIdler> vonHalenbach: Yeah..I'm about to theme my body to match my mobile phone..
[05:56] <vonHalenbach> My mobile phone is stronger than yours.
[05:56] <vonHalenbach> and much bigger.
[05:56] <zblach> what should the partition permissions be on a fat32 drive?
[05:56] <EvilIdler> Still waiting for that in-tooth mobile :)
[05:56] <Davidosky> !3gp
[05:56] <ubotu> Davidosky: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:57] <Davidosky> How can i use a 3gp video file?
[05:57] <vonHalenbach> ;-))
[05:57] <EvilIdler> It would of course have an external Bluetooth numberpad ;)
[05:57] <vonHalenbach> Mindcontrol.
[05:58] <lewix> hi
[05:58] <lewix> what do you use to make website ?
[05:58] <vonHalenbach> kate.
[05:58] <EvilIdler> lewix: Quanta, mad skillz and patience
[05:58] <vonHalenbach> patience
[05:59] <RadiantFire> lol... mad skillz
[05:59] <MidMark> someone that has succesfull installed and used an ip4200? I have problems with photos
[05:59] <EvilIdler> Quanta has built-in FTP, so it makes it simpler to upload - or you can even just work right on the webserver if you trust the backup procedures
[05:59] <lewix> what's the best, do you guys think that it's as powerful as dreamwaver on windows
[05:59] <MidMark> I mean a canon pixma ip4200
[05:59] <zblach> !fat32
[05:59] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:59] <RadiantFire> lewix: it creates standards compliant markup
[05:59] <RadiantFire> i've never gotten a webpage that will validate correctly out of dreamweaver
[05:59] <RadiantFire> although its not wysiwyg, but it has a preview mode that works well
[06:00] <lewix> RadiantFire. so what od you advise?
[06:00] <EvilIdler> Dreamweaver is one of those form-before-function interfaces that makes the output a mess
[06:00] <kronoz> quanta is awesome
[06:00] <kronoz> theres also nvu :)
[06:00] <EvilIdler> Yeah, just about any editor with syntax highlighting is great for markup.
[06:01] <lewix> alright
[06:01] <EvilIdler> Quanta or Bluefish (the Gnome/Gtk+ counterpart) have built-in tools directly for webmanglement, though
[06:01] <RadiantFire> Quant > Bluefish
[06:01] <lewix> you guys are saying that it's better to make website with either quanda, mad skillz or patience ?
[06:01] <RadiantFire> Bluefish is garbage
[06:01] <lewix> is that it?
[06:01] <RadiantFire> if you want to use gtk version use Screem
[06:02] <RadiantFire> but I prefer Quanta, better preview modes
[06:02] <RadiantFire> and it actually uses KIO
[06:02] <lewix> alright ,
[06:02] <EvilIdler> lewix: Don't worry about lack of choices when the few choices are good ;)
[06:03] <vonHalenbach> EvilIdler looks like a mobile phone.
[06:05] <lewix> i'm trying to have internet with ubuntu
[06:05] <lewix> the wireless
[06:05] <zblach> EvilIdler: lol @ webmanglement
[06:05] <lewix> it just doesn't connect automatically as windows does , so I'm trying to figure out a way of being able to use internet
[06:06] <sean> hey -- my CDR is writing slow and dying in mid-write with KDE - in Linspire it didn;t do that
[06:06] <EvilIdler> zblach: You should see draft 1-4 of anything I make :P
[06:06] <sean> It's supposed to write at 48x, but it writes a 24x and dies every time
[06:07] <darx> greetings
[06:07] <vonHalenbach> lewix: what kind of connection do you use?
[06:07] <lewix> vonHalenbach: wireless
[06:07] <darx> how do i check wether the touchpad driver is synaptic?
[06:07] <vonHalenbach> Do you have a wireless router with autoconnect?
[06:08] <vonHalenbach> Or just a Modem?
[06:08] <MidMark> I mean a canon pixma ip4200
[06:09] <cius> under kde, should I use kdesu rather than sudo or are they the same thing?
[06:09] <MidMark> someone that has a canon pixma ip4200 and it works?
[06:09] <sean> cius: use kdesu for kde programs, gksudo for gnome programs and sudo for terminals
[06:09] <lewix> vonHalenbach: I don't have a wireless router, I have the wireless card and it's suppose to detect some wireless connections available out there
[06:09] <vonHalenbach> cius: if it is gafical use kdesu. it is the same.
[06:09] <cius> sean, k, thanks
[06:10] <cius> vonHalenbach, so kdesu is the same as gksudo?
[06:10] <sean> cius: kdesu (sure) and gksudo (I think), set up several things for the program to run too -- in case they are not there for root
[06:10] <sean> cius: not likely
[06:11] <darx> how do i check wether the touchpad driver is synaptic?
[06:11] <sean> cius: kdesu starts things like dcop -- which gksudo does not need, so it probably does not start it
[06:11] <vonHalenbach> lewix: oh, i see. does the wirelesscard work alredy under linux?
[06:11] <cius> sean, I take it that it would be best to run something like easyubuntu with gksudo as it was meant for ubuntu?
[06:11] <sean> cius: yes
[06:12] <cius> sean, that might be my problem then
[06:12] <cius> thanks, I'll try that and let you know what happens :-)
[06:12] <sean> cius: easyubuntu -> gksudo, k3b -> kdesu, apt-get -> sudo
[06:12] <cius> cool, good to know
[06:12] <lewix> vonHalenbach: I guess so
[06:13] <EvilIdler> Adept has stopped working from the menu here, but running the same command from a term works. Any ideas why?
[06:13] <sean> cius: I'm glad I;m of help -- hope it works!
[06:13] <Big_T> can someone tell me, how to enable the direct rendering with the ati radeon fglrx driver?
[06:13] <vonHalenbach> lewix: can you do a ping into the internet? like ping www.ibm.com
[06:13] <vonHalenbach> ?
[06:13] <cius> sean, okay, it told me gksudo was not found
[06:14] <cius> gtksudo maybe?
[06:14] <cius> nope
[06:14] <lewix> vonHalenbach: i don't think so, I can't go on internet...I can't chat...etc...
[06:14] <Davidosky> how can i play a 3gp file? VLC can open it but there is "no sound"
[06:14] <sean> cius: you'll need to install it, ubuntu has it (because it needs it ) but kubuntu doe snot come with it by default
[06:14] <darx> try mplayer
[06:14] <vonHalenbach> lewix: do you make fun of me?
[06:14] <dh> In Klipper what do the actions do ?//
[06:14] <cius> sean, ah ok
[06:15] <cius> thanks
[06:15] <lewix> vonHalenbach: ?...not at all
[06:15] <dh> ?
[06:15] <dh> ?
[06:15] <EvilIdler> Davidosky: 3GP is just the videoformat. Try 'file filename' and see if it tells you what sound format it is
[06:15] <sean> dh: explain -- in dcop?
[06:15] <vonHalenbach> good bye lewix
[06:16] <sean> dh: hum --
[06:16] <lewix> vonHalenbach: Im trying to connect on internet? why would you think I make fun of you ? my english is not that great...anyway bye
[06:16] <sean> dh: I just found them
[06:16] <sean> dh: I have no clue what they do
[06:16] <ubuntu> coucou
[06:16] <darx> could someone help me fiigure out how to configure my touchpad?????????
[06:17] <darx> pleasee
[06:18] <grothesk> Hello!
[06:18] <grothesk> Is kubuntu on UTF8?
[06:19] <grothesk> If not, how can I switch to UTF-8?
[06:19] <EvilIdler> Davidosky: 3GP files would use AAC, AMR or QCELP sound. At least one of them could be DRM infested :/
[06:19] <Davidosky> you mean that i need more codecs?
[06:19] <EvilIdler> grothesk: I seem to get UTF8 text from the simple editors, at least
[06:20] <MusicChump> can anyone point me to instructions to install Kubuntu with windows xp as dual boot?
[06:20] <EvilIdler> Davidosky: AAC codec at least. Dunno what AMR is, and QCELP is a variation of a codec mostly used for speech (dunno if it's open or proprietary)
[06:20] <cius> okay, this is ridiculous
[06:20] <Davidosky> ok thx :D
[06:21] <grothesk> EvilIdler: I do have some mp3 files and their filenames are in UTF-8. But in kubunut, they are corrupt.
[06:21] <EvilIdler> MusicChump: Install XP first, then google for "grub chainloader" if it doesn't automagically setup XP as a boot option
[06:21] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Ah, what player? I know XMMS is *terrible* at it, but would have expected Amarok to work
[06:21] <kronoz> !aac
[06:21] <grothesk> amarok...
[06:21] <cius> I click Adept from the K menu and it takes five seconds for the root pass box to appear, and after I type in my pass, it takes a full 20 seconds to launch adept...
[06:21] <ubotu> I heard aac is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about aac support
[06:21] <kronoz> cius, yes it is slow :(
[06:21] <kronoz> apt-get ftw
[06:22] <grothesk> EvilIdler: But I mean the display in konqueror.
[06:22] <cius> kronoz, yea, looks like command line for me from now on
[06:22] <EvilIdler> cius: Lucky you - Adept doesn't start at all here :(
[06:22] <MusicChump> ty
[06:22] <MusicChump> :P
[06:22] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Hmm..that's weird, then.
[06:22] <dh> sean: No in Klipper the Clipboard program
[06:22] <kronoz> adept-updater would never start for me
[06:22] <ubuntu_> Hello everybody, I've just installed the last kubuntu release, and I want to set up my RAID device, I need some help
[06:23] <Davidosky> Evil: i have used VLC from Konsole. I can see this error: main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `samr'
[06:23] <CaBlGuY-Gone> bbl peeps.  o/
[06:23] <EvilIdler> Davidosky: That's AMR sound, then
[06:23] <EvilIdler> Davidosky: I have never heard of AMR sound format until today :/
[06:23] <sean> dh: I already answered you--  read after when i mentioned dcop
[06:23] <lewix> people here just suppose things thinking that everybody is like them, so when you know less some of them think you're making fun of them. for those people who believe me, can you please help me out ? I have a atheros AR5005G wireless, and I would like to be able to access internet (the wireless connection of the guy next door)
[06:24] <cius> anyone know if the adept slowness is a kde thing in general or just a kubuntu thing?
[06:24] <Davidosky> lol, this is a 3g file created by a Nokia 6630 :D
[06:24] <EvilIdler> grothesk: What version of KDE is it?
[06:25] <cius> sean, is gksudo its own package or is it part of another package?  maybe gksu?
[06:25] <tyfon_> you need w32codecs to play 3gp files afaik
[06:25] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Unicode support is in the core libs, so it's weird if Konq doesn't support it
[06:25] <grothesk> KDE 3.5.3
[06:25] <nemesis> I have a strange issue with dapper and hope someone can help
[06:26] <nemesis> if I dual boot on rebooting from dapper I have reistall my tv card
[06:27] <nemesis> in windows, is strange and I cant for the life of me figure out wyhy
[06:27] <darx> how to check if the synaptics driver is loaded ???????
[06:27] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Is your language set to de_DE.UTF-8? It seems KDE doesn't encode properly if using ISO-8859-variants
[06:29] <grothesk> EvilIdler: How do I check that?
[06:29] <EvilIdler> grothesk: In a konsole, type 'env | grep LANG'
[06:29] <grothesk> EvilIdler: thx
[06:29] <luh> i just have a black screen when the kubuntu-livecd has finished booting
[06:29] <luh> what can i do against it?
[06:29] <EvilIdler> I've got en_US.UTF-8 (the default)
[06:30] <EvilIdler> If it was en_US, Konqueror would act pretty strange on some of my files :)
[06:30] <grothesk> LANG=de_DE.UTF-8
[06:30] <grothesk> LANGUAGE=de_DE:de:en_GB:en
[06:30] <grothesk> Hm. Should be o.k....
[06:30] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Yes, that looks good
[06:31] <luh> anyone an idea?
[06:31] <grothesk> But why are those mp3 files not displayed properly?
[06:31] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Are they really UTF-8, or are they Asian names in some strange codepage?
[06:32] <EvilIdler> I've got a few Japanese files that didn't display well
[06:32] <adma> hey!
[06:32] <adma> what is the best program for playing dvd's, music and movies and how do I install it? in basic steps...I'm a n00b :)
[06:33] <EvilIdler> !dvd
[06:33] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[06:33] <ubuntu_> Hello everybody, can somebody help me installing a RAID device under kubuntu system please
[06:33] <adma> what about mplayer? is that any good?
[06:33] <grothesk> EvilIdler: They should be UTF-8. I created them under Suse. And Suse used to support UTF-8 since the dawn of time... *g*
[06:34] <EvilIdler> Once you have libdvdcss, Xine is a decent player, VLC would probably work, and MPlayer is a nice third..Kaffeine somewhere in there
[06:34] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Damn, then I dunno why KDE is being such a poopyhead :(
[06:34] <adma> what do I need to play mp3's and avi's ?
[06:35] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Check launchpad.net and see if you can find any bugs like that
[06:35] <EvilIdler> !mp3
[06:35] <ubotu> [mp3]  a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:35] <EvilIdler> More packages to install to get MP3, but just follow the instructions, and it's easy :)
[06:36] <adma> still haven't figuered out how to install packages yet :P
[06:36] <EvilIdler> adma: Look in the K menu, under System. There's a program called Adept.
[06:37] <EvilIdler> adma: In that program, there is also a menu option to manage repositories, which is what you need to add a new one, like the Seveas one mentioned
[06:37] <cius> wow, this is really bad
[06:37] <cius> gam_server and whiptail eating up cpu time like a humvee guzzles gas
[06:37] <keffo> "kdm stop" does not stop the x-server?
[06:37] <EvilIdler> Wow, your desktop is eyeing Arabian oil by now :/
[06:38] <darx> whats the shortcut to switch workspace?
[06:38] <EvilIdler> darx: Ctrl and an F-key
[06:38] <darx> EvilIdler: thanks
[06:39] <darx> EvilIdler: doesn't work
[06:39] <adma> ah good :)
[06:39] <adma> thx!
[06:39] <darx> EvilIdler: its find
[06:39] <Riskbreaker> how do i restore my system tray?
[06:40] <Riskbreaker> edit:nevermind
[06:40] <cius> well, looks like Ubuntu, here I come again
[06:40] <darx> whats the shortcut to switch workspace?
[06:41] <EvilIdler> Ctrl-F1, ctrl-F2 etc. work fine here.
[06:41] <EvilIdler> You of course need to have actual plural workspaces
[06:42] <element4> Hello ppl, can a kubuntu newbie ask a simple question!?
[06:44] <RadiantFire> does anyone know if xmodmap changes are permanent?
[06:44] <darx> EvilIdler: alright the function keys.. thanks that works, i tried the f key. stupid me :)
[06:44] <kronoz> !mov
[06:44] <ubotu> kronoz: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:44] <grothesk> RadiantFire: No, they are not.
[06:44] <RadiantFire> how do I make them permanent?
[06:44] <kronoz> no, i did not get hit by a bloody windmill -_-
[06:45] <grothesk> RadiantFire: Running kde?
[06:45] <RadiantFire> grothesk: yes
[06:45] <RadiantFire> manually assigning my media keys
[06:45] <RadiantFire> gnome detects them, but then again, I hate gnome...
[06:45] <cius> is there an easy way to apt-get remove the entire kubuntu-desktop or do I have to go in and remove each individual package?
[06:45] <grothesk> Put your changes into a file .xmodmaprc
[06:46] <EvilIdler> Gnome detected all of grandpa's media keys but one..PLAY
[06:46] <grothesk> Then create an executable skript in /.kde/Autostart
[06:46] <RadiantFire> grothesk: is it the strings that I fed to xmodmap?
[06:46] <grothesk> It schould contain: xmodmap ./modmaprc
[06:46] <grothesk> No.
[06:47] <grothesk> Just 'xmodmap ./filewithyourchangedstrings
[06:47] <RadiantFire> so if I execute xmodmap -e "keycode 174 = XF86AudioMute"
[06:47] <RadiantFire> do I put "keycode 174 = XF86AudioMute" in ./xmodmaprc
[06:48] <RadiantFire> I'm sorry, but for some reason what you said just isn't clickin
[06:48] <grothesk> No clicking... Command Line... *g*
[06:48] <Ace2005> You could use this to make an autostart thing for KDE, it adds a new module to kcontrol: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=35038
[06:49] <RadiantFire> Ace2005: no, I get that, but what do I put in .xmodmaprc
[06:49] <RadiantFire> I understand autostart perfectly, but you said it should be xmodmap ./filewithstrings
[06:50] <RadiantFire> what is the string format for that file
[06:55] <abloylas> i just installed firestarter on kubuntu, where is the menu icon?
[06:55] <grothesk> Just put your mappings into it.
[06:56] <dmoyne> hello ! ; I have a pb to install properly mysql ; anybody to help ?
[07:02] <lizardmane> Recommendations for program to find and delete duplicate files through several subdirectories ?
[07:05] <defrysk> krusader and mc
[07:07] <dergringo> lizardmane: Kleansweep
[07:07] <conor> i need help with my internet speed
[07:08] <Midspeed> hi everybody
[07:08] <Midspeed> i got a question about my lovely kubuntu 6.06
[07:09] <Fillado> ?
[07:09] <Snake> !ask
[07:09] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:09] <Midspeed> sorry
[07:09] <Midspeed> ha ha ha
[07:09] <Snake> :)
[07:09] <Midspeed> ok heres my question
[07:09] <Midspeed> i created a username on the shell
[07:09] <Midspeed> and when i try to go into X WINDOWS
[07:09] <Midspeed> and type STARTX on the shell
[07:10] <Midspeed> it doesnt do nothing
[07:10] <Midspeed> but if i do it with my root password it works
[07:10] <Midspeed> whats going on?
[07:10] <Memorice> can anyone help me installing xgl on kubuntu?
[07:10] <Snake> !xgl
[07:10] <ubotu> well, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[07:11] <Memorice> ok thanks
[07:11] <Midspeed> im waiting for help here :'(
[07:11] <Fillado> Midspeed: (this is only me speculating) but would a normal user not have permisson to start X11?
[07:11] <Midspeed> oh
[07:11] <Midspeed> ok, Fillado, that makes some sense
[07:11] <Midspeed> i will look into that
[07:11] <Midspeed> thanks
[07:12] <slow-motion> re
[07:12] <conor> i need help my internt connections lag is a 157ms
[07:12] <grothesk> EvilIdler: Did manage it witht UTF-8
[07:13] <grothesk> It works now.
[07:13] <EvilIdler> grothesk: What fixed it?
[07:13] <grothesk> I really don't know...
[07:13] <tomasz> hi guys and gals :) kudos to developers, i'm sitting in front of my kubuntu since friday
[07:13] <grothesk> I remounted the partition...
[07:14] <RadiantFire> yes, they did do a good job
[07:14] <tomasz> i've got one question - i don't know how to setup system-wide fonts settings in kde
[07:15] <tomasz> i mean - defaults font settings for system
[07:15] <tomasz> i could do it for my kubuntu user but how to manage it system-wide
[07:16] <EvilIdler> grothesk: First time you mounted it since the upgrade, or something?
[07:16] <tomasz> i mean about something like "settings -> appearance -> font settings" but for all users
[07:18] <grothesk> EvilIdler: No. The partition ist automounted by fstab.
[07:18] <MidMark> why draw and calc icons are missing?
[07:18] <Midspeed> im back again, one more question!
[07:18] <Midspeed> how do you set permissions for a user on the shell?
[07:18] <grothesk> The only thing I did with that partition was 'chown'ing all the files on it, EvilIdler
[07:19] <grothesk> Midspeed: For a file?
[07:19] <m5m> I just upgraded last night to Dapper, and bash is complaining it can't find /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db when I try and use the 'locate' utility.  Any thoughts?
[07:19] <EvilIdler> grothesk: Weird. THat shouldn't really be related :P
[07:19] <Midspeed> for a user
[07:19] <grothesk> EvilIdler: No. It should not. But anyhow... It works now for me.
[07:19] <Midspeed> i wanna give permission for a user, more power??
[07:19] <Midspeed> :P
[07:19] <EvilIdler> grothesk: I'll note that as a possible fix if I see the problem :)
[07:20] <grothesk> Remounting?
[07:20] <grothesk> At least not 'rebooting' like in windows... ;-)
[07:21] <grothesk> Midspeed: Use 'chmod'
[07:22] <Midspeed> ok
[07:22] <Midspeed> thanks
[07:22] <grothesk> But which file do you want to change?
[07:22] <grothesk> You can 'sudo' everything in ubuntu.
[07:22] <Midspeed> my problem here is that i want a user to be able to log into X windows
[07:23] <gurumeditationer> adept crashed on me and I can't find the lock file I'm supposed to delete
[07:23] <MidMark> why draw and calc icons are missing?
[07:23] <gurumeditationer> I've deleted the locks in /var/lib/dpkg & /var/lib/apt
[07:23] <grothesk> Midspeed: That should be possible with out changing a file.
[07:23] <Midspeed> ok
[07:23] <Midspeed> so i sudo ???
[07:23] <gurumeditationer> I couldn't find anything in /var/lock
[07:24] <RadiantFire> gurumeditationer: run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:25] <gurumeditationer> Thanks, RadiantFire
[07:26] <gurumeditationer> One more question, on every boot a dosfsck is being done on my fat32 partition
[07:26] <gurumeditationer> it didn't do this everyboot on 5.10, how do I stop it? (I'm on a laptop, can't afford to wait ages on each boot)
[07:26] <EvilIdler> gurumeditationer: I've seen that when the partition is created in Linux. It somehow disappeared when recreated with Windows :/
[07:27] <gurumeditationer> Windows is on that partition and it was there when I got the laptop
[07:27] <EvilIdler> Then I dunno. Do a full surface scan, maybe?
[07:30] <MidMark> why draw and calc icons are missing?
[07:33] <lizardmane> Recommendations for program to find and delete duplicate files through several subdirectories ?
[07:34] <gurumeditationer> I'm trying to install sun-java5-jre and it's got one of those blue config screens
[07:34] <gurumeditationer> it won't let me "click" ok by pressing return though
[07:34] <jme__> lizardmane: duplicate as of 'ahving the same name' or 'having the same content' ?
[07:35] <lizardmane> jme__: same exact file ...
[07:35] <luh> hi
[07:35] <jme__> maouaoua
[07:36] <luh> i get a black screen when i boot from the kubuntu live cd - how can i get a working x?
[07:36] <jme__> lizardmane: man i took time to ask a clear question :) with simple options and stuff :)
[07:36] <lizardmane> jme__: huh?
[07:37] <lizardmane> jme__: duplicate files across several subdirectories
[07:37] <bobbyd> how do I get the cups admin password?
[07:37] <jme__> yep :)
[07:37] <bobbyd> (or set it?)
[07:37] <jme__> lizardmane: your question is too vague for me to understand it
[07:38] <lizardmane> jme__: do you know what a duplicate file is?
[07:38] <darx> what is the command to restart gdm?
[07:38] <lizardmane> jme__: to create one, as an example, use the cp command.
[07:38] <bobbyd> lizardmane, what's the question?
[07:39] <lizardmane> Recommendations for program to find and delete duplicate files through several subdirectories ?
[07:39] <lizardmane> bobbyd: Recommendations for program to find and delete duplicate files through several subdirectories ?
[07:39] <luh> has anyone an idea how to fix that?
[07:40] <darx> what is the command to restart gdm?
[07:42] <bobbyd> lizardmane, would you start with one directory and then delete all the other duplicates?
[07:43] <bobbyd> lizardmane, otherwise which one would you delete?
[07:44] <lizardmane> bobbyd: yes; the ultimate goal is to delete the duplicates; picking the "original" that is not deleted is arbitrary.
[07:44] <luh> nobody?
[07:45] <gurumeditationer> Is it just me or is the Azureus package broken?
[07:45] <lizardmane> bobbyd: I think this forum must not have any bash heads in it.  It must be for neophytes.
[07:45] <bobbyd> lizardmane, well, that would be pretty easy to write in python or another script language, but I don't know of an app to do it
[07:46] <bobbyd> lizardmane, the simplest way to do it would be to generate a list of all the files on the system, then just iterate through it making a new entry in an associative array for each item, when you get a duplicate, delete the file
[07:47] <bobbyd> luh, that's a tough one, do other live CDs work? what's your graphics card?
[07:47] <lizardmane> bobbyd: I just found a tool called 'fdupes' -- investigating ...
[07:48] <defrysk> sudo gdm restart
[07:48] <mark---> i want to check MB temperature; is there a command like 'cat /proc/cpuinf' for that?
[07:48] <Riskbreaker> is amarok supposed to use a buttload of ram? it's currently pushing 250,000k or so... and it's minimized in my system tray. is that normal?
[07:48] <bobbyd> lizardmane, someone must have done it before :)
[07:48] <luh> bobbyd, a sis - and yes - knopix 3.4 works fine
[07:48] <luh> but i wanted to check out the xorg.conf file
[07:48] <luh> and knoppix won't give me a xorg.conf file
[07:48] <bobbyd> hmm
[07:49] <bhna> mark---: look at sensors
[07:51] <lizardmane> when I access a removable drive plugged into the USB, the kde cd player stops playing the cd.  I can hit the play button again, but it will repeat this error.
[07:51] <mark---> bhna: thanksl.
[07:51] <luh> bobbyd, so you - or anyone else an idea?
[07:52] <Riskbreaker> i closed amarok and restarted it, and ram use is down to about 150,000k now, but that's still a lot... is something wrong?
[07:52] <bobbyd> luh, well, not really, try booting into text mode and then run x from the command line and check the Xlog errors
[07:53] <bobbyd> luh, you could just try ctrl-alt f1-2 to see the console when the live cd boots
[07:53] <wincide> hi, i'm with an ATI radeon 9700 , kde 3.5.3 and xgl , but i don't know how to configure compiz-KDE 'cause i don't find any manual for kde users, all are for gnome
[07:53] <luh> well - i was trying to have a good xorg.conf - and actually not having to mess around with the live cd (use kubuntu on the other machine already)
[07:53] <luh> maybe i should just install kubuntu on the other machine
[07:53] <wincide> do someone knows hot to configure (and use) that
[07:54] <wincide> *how
[07:54] <dergringo> An Application displays an error: "Can not get exclusive Access" how can I solve that?
[07:54] <Riskbreaker> wincide, give me a second, i'll show you what i did
[07:54] <bobbyd> dergringo, which app?
[07:54] <dergringo> bobbyd: Picard from www.musicbrainz.org
[07:54] <Riskbreaker> i'm not too much of an expert about Xgl but i did get working on kubuntu, so here's what i did
[07:55] <wincide> Riskbreaker:  problem is that i have transparency now, but don 't know if its composite (i didnt work few time ago) or compiz
[07:55] <Riskbreaker> is compiz showing up in ksysguard?
[07:55] <wincide> an how to configure package compiz-kde :)
[07:55] <bobbyd> dergringo, try running it from a console with sudo, like "sudo appname"
[07:55] <Riskbreaker> i'm pretty sure you're not supposed to use compiz-kde
[07:56] <Riskbreaker> compiz-kde is broken last i heard, you're supposed to use compiz-gnome, and gnome-window-decorator with it
[07:56] <wincide> Riskbreaker:  ok
[07:56] <pussfeller> now i have no sound
[07:56] <Riskbreaker> so anyway here's what i did, sudo nano /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[07:56] <wincide> but i'll not install gnome packages .. thx a lot Riskbreaker
[07:57] <Riskbreaker> you won't need gnome... just install compiz-gnome, that'll get you just the dependencies
[07:57] <max_> can anyone help me installing Nvidia drivers?
[07:58] <Jyzky> anyone?
[07:59] <Riskbreaker> it's up to you, if you're really that opposed to having title bars that look like gnome, then i can't really help you
[07:59] <Riskbreaker> you might try #xgl, but i'm not sure if anyone in that channel can help you either, wincide
[08:00] <wincide> Riskbreaker:  i don't like gnome packages 'cause i'm with baghira, and doesn't work apps with baghira "os-alike" bar
[08:00] <wincide> gnome apps i mean
[08:00] <SkrotFFS> !nvidia
[08:00] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:01] <Riskbreaker> ah, i see
[08:02] <paulvolk> Hello
[08:02] <pussfeller> does dapper do away the need for a custom .asoundrc
[08:02] <pussfeller> casue now my sound isnt working
[08:02] <paulvolk> How would I udate breezy to drapper in Kubuntu?
[08:02] <tristanmike> !upgrade
[08:03] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[08:03] <Riskbreaker> actually no, that doesn't change anything, you'd be running KDE apps
[08:03] <pussfeller> !sound
[08:03] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[08:03] <wincide> Riskbreaker:  thx a lot
[08:03] <wincide> :)
[08:03] <paulvolk> Ya I am running KDE how would I upgade then?
[08:03] <wincide> i dont know if ill try that
[08:04] <Jyzky> anyone help me with installing nvidia drivers?
[08:04] <wincide> i think ill wait
[08:04] <pussfeller> ah my master was muted
[08:04] <Riskbreaker> the only aspect of gnome you'd be using is gnome-window-decorator, which just handles the title bar and window borders. although that will pretty much kill your Mac OS X look
[08:04] <paulvolk> Can anyone help me upgrade to Drapper?
[08:05] <wincide> yes, and bahira is part of kwin-decorator styles
[08:05] <wincide> *baghira
[08:06] <Riskbreaker> ah then you definitely won't be able to use Xgl
[08:06] <Riskbreaker> compiz, which is what does all the specifal effects you want Xgl for,
[08:06] <Riskbreaker> replaces kwin
[08:06] <wincide> im using xgl
[08:06] <wincide> not compiz
[08:06] <buz> xgl is kinda useless without compiz
[08:06] <wincide> i prefer to wait than to loose my baghira style
[08:06] <wincide> :P
[08:06] <Riskbreaker> understandable
[08:07] <wincide> why?
[08:07] <Riskbreaker> why is it understandable?
[08:07] <Riskbreaker> or why xgl useless without compiz