[02:22] <ubotu> posingaspopular: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[02:22] <bengoodger> transgress: I don't actually want to use the ubuntu installer, since that will likely bugger my debian in an interesting way
[02:22] <StoneNote> quanchi2, this what you're looking for? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome  I can't vouch for this
[02:22] <up365> nutterpc, I see
[02:22] <posingaspopular> tonyyarusso: thanks
[02:22] <lufis> SamePaul: i guess so, but unless you know for sure it has a feature required i wouldn't bother
[02:22] <gyaresu> quanchi2: A manual? You mean like Windows?
[02:23] <colbert> arrenlex: Little problem here, when I followed that command to create the shortcut "ln -s /media/BGPC\ XP ~/Desktop/music" I failed to put the \ between BGPC and XP for the space, and it created bad "BGPC" and "XP links on the desktop, I deleted BGPC but I can't seem to get rid of XP ?
[02:23] <tehxed> success!!!
[02:23] <nutterpc> SamePaul: updating the kernel to 2.6.20 (basically roll ur own) is a bit harder than most people should ideally attempt
[02:23] <gyaresu> tehxed: Wireless a-go-go?
[02:23] <nutterpc> especially when small features decide to stop working, lol
[02:23] <SamePaul> lufis: I just don't know what to do. WinXP had no problem with it :(
[02:23] <arrenlex> colbert: You've come to the right place! This channel is all about helping you get rid of XP :D
[02:23] <colbert> lol
[02:23] <lufis> SamePaul: yeah, some hardware vendors make it pretty difficult for linux to use it. blame them
[02:24] <bengoodger> quanchi2: using one's brain is quite sufficient for using linux. unlike windows, it is neither necessary nor possible to manage by repeating the same series of mouseclicks over and over having memorised them painstakingly
[02:24] <arrenlex> colbert: For future reference, Linux doesn't like spaces in filenames. I highly advise you not to use them for files you will be accessing in the command line, because it's a pain to escape them with \ every time.
[02:24] <tehxed> gyaresu, negatory
[02:24] <up365> nutterpc,  uh oh xmms is not listed in Input plugins
[02:24] <colbert> arrenlex: Okay
[02:24] <lufis> SamePaul: they purposely withhold hardware specs most of the time. it's a sad thing
[02:24] <gyaresu> tehxed: poop
[02:24] <nutterpc> 0_o
[02:24] <arrenlex> colbert: What happens if you just press delete over XP?
[02:24] <tehxed> gyaresu, i just figured out how to get the windows drivers extracted using cabextract
[02:24] <tehxed> transgress, i got them extracted.. now what?
[02:24] <nutterpc> it should be in there man
[02:24] <lufis> SamePaul: and provide crappy closed-source drivers
[02:24] <colbert> arrenlex: Nothing
[02:25] <mjr> (Linux likes spaces in filenames just fine, it's just a bit cumbersome to use those in shell)
[02:25] <quanchi2> k
[02:25] <gyaresu> tehxed: stage 47. moving onto stage 48...
[02:25] <colbert> arrenlex: The icon has a locked emblem on it
[02:25] <SamePaul> lufis: :) I'll say them. I'm working in the wireless department of Intel ))
[02:25] <quanchi2> ben: there is now 19GB of unallocated space.
[02:25] <arrenlex> colbert: Okay, open up the terminal and type "cd ~/Desktop". Then type "rm XP".
[02:25] <tehxed> gyaresu, no kidding.. i'm in pain
[02:25] <bengoodger> quanchi2: excellent
[02:25] <geeksauce> arrenlex, hmm i don't see why that isn't working.  if i point ff to localhost it shows a directory listing that just has a folder called "samba-images"
[02:25] <transgress> tehxed: sudo ndiswrapper -i drivername.inf
[02:25] <bengoodger> quanchi2: make yourself a new 1GB partition, formatted as swap
[02:25] <nutterpc> SamePaul: that must be fun
[02:25] <transgress> bengoodger: why are you asking debian help in #ubuntu?
[02:25] <quanchi2> ben: i went back and clicked "use largest contiguous free space"
[02:25] <arrenlex> geeksauce: o_O
[02:25] <dogmeat> which wma -> mp3 converter can i use?
[02:25] <bengoodger> then use the rest of the space for one formatted as ext3
[02:25] <colbert> arrenlex: You strike again :) Thank you :)
[02:25] <arrenlex> geeksauce: That's localhost:901, not just localhost, right?
[02:26] <SamePaul> nutterpc: Actually not at all :)
[02:26] <quanchi2> ben: so it will only use that 19GB of space right?
[02:26] <arrenlex> colbert: Is it actually gone?
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> dogmeat, does Linux have a WMA-MP3 converter?
[02:26] <transgress> bengoodger: try this one then http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/restore-debian-linux-grub-boot-loader.html
[02:26] <bengoodger> transgress: what is ubuntu if not a slightly more patronising version of debian?
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> i figure yo'ud have to convert them on a windows box
[02:26] <nutterpc> SamePaul: why do you say that man :P
[02:26] <colbert> arrenlex: Yes
[02:26] <geeksauce> nah that's just localhost.  adding :901 doesn't work
[02:26] <Marupa> Hey, uh...looking to try out feisty...How would I go about upgrading from Edgy?
[02:26] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: mplayer -ao pcm <file.wma> && lame <file.wav> :)
[02:26] <tehxed> maaan
[02:26] <transgress> bengoodger: debian has it's own way of doing things and ubuntu has it's way ... and debian also has it's own channel.  but that link should set you up.
[02:26] <bengoodger> Marupa: don't bother until it's released
[02:26] <gyaresu> !upgrade
[02:26] <nutterpc> arrenlex: good ol mplayer
[02:27] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:27] <arrenlex> geeksauce: The :901 part is kind of important. If it doesn't work, that's the problem.
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex, does that line change it to a .wav file?.. how to convert to an mp3?
[02:27] <gyaresu> !upgrade > Marupa
[02:27] <dynamicreflux> !feisty
[02:27] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[02:27] <quanchi2> ben: it will only install in that 19GB, right?
[02:27] <skel> can anyone clarify something for me? I read on slashdot that feisty wouldn't have the 3d accelerated drivers by default for nvidia / ati for beryl / AIGLX, does that mean that restricted-modules won't include the nvidia drivers anymore? or just that it won't be default?
[02:27] <arrenlex> IndyGunFreak: By using lame.
[02:27] <bengoodger> transgress: I'm not aware that ubuntu has forked gnu grub...
[02:27] <SamePaul> nutterpc: It's frustrating to fail on this...
[02:27] <bengoodger> quanchi2: yep
[02:27] <quanchi2> ok
[02:27] <Marupa> I don't want to wait until april  X3
[02:27] <nutterpc> SamePaul: whats not happening?
[02:27] <quanchi2> ben: it will not erase my windows stuff right?
[02:27] <gyaresu> skel: by default.
[02:27] <mjr> skel, it won't be default, as has been for ages already
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> arrenlex, oh i see now, ok
[02:27] <bengoodger> skel: it won't be the default, thankfully
[02:27] <gyaresu> quanchi2: Backup,backup,backup.
[02:27] <bengoodger> quanchi2: not unless you tell it to
[02:28] <mjr> skel, (incidentally, "accelerated" != "proprietary"; many Radeons are accelerated with the free drivers already)
[02:28] <bengoodger> quanchi2: read above my last message
[02:28] <skel> gyaresu / mjr / gyaresu: ok thanks, I was worried I wouldn't have access to them at all
[02:28] <tehxed> transgress, sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[02:28] <skel> mjr: right, bad wording on my part.
[02:28] <geeksauce> arrenlex, yes i realize that.  i thought maybe the fact that it lists a samba-images directory when i point it localhost might have helped as far as troubleshooting
[02:28] <transgress> bengoodger: no it hasn't... but you said yourself that installing it using ubuntu might make interesting things happen.  hence debian doing things it's way... thus you shouldn't be asking for help in a place ill equiped to help you.  ubuntu != debian ... especially now
[02:28] <tehxed> transgress, bcmwl5 is already installed. Use -e to remove it
[02:28] <quanchi2> i have stuff i want to keep on burned CDs
[02:28] <transgress> tehxed: remove it and reinstall it
[02:28] <gyaresu> skel: It's Linux. You can always jam stuff in that's not meant to be there ;)
[02:28] <quanchi2> but i really don't want to have to refer to those
[02:28] <mqueiros> hello... I'v installed some packages on dapper but I don't remember all... does dapper keeps track of the lateste installed packages ? where ? thanks!
[02:28] <quanchi2> my parents use this computer
[02:28] <tbc2> hi@all ...
[02:28] <nutterpc> SamePaul: depending on what ur problem is, I might be able to help
[02:28] <quanchi2> i really want to be careful
[02:29] <tehxed> transgress, instead of -i, use -e?
[02:29] <skel> gyaresu: I know, I used to compile the nvidia drivers all the time against my custom kernel, it just because a matter of maintenance and breaking the updates etc
[02:29] <tehxed> transgress, sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5.inf   <--?
[02:29] <transgress> tehxed: use the -e bcmwl5 and then ndiswrapper bcmwl5.inf
[02:29] <transgress> tehxed: no .inf is required for the -e
[02:29] <skel> gyaresu: so if at all possible, I like to stick with ubuntu kernels and packages :)
[02:29] <bengoodger> transgress: debian doesn't do anything its way, that's the point. and canonical haven't forked gnu grub, so I should be able to use a livecd to fix a distro-independent application
[02:29] <tehxed> transgress, so what ...what am I typing in?
[02:29] <gyaresu> skel: Yeah I know. Just being facetious.
[02:30] <bengoodger> transgress: do you install a different copy of grub if you want to run windows?
[02:30] <skel> gyaresu: =]
[02:30] <transgress> tehxed: gnome-terminal if you are using gnome
[02:30] <arrenlex> geeksauce: There we go. Open /etc/inetd.conf in a text editor as root.
[02:30] <quanchi2> i hope this works
[02:30] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Find the line that says #swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat
[02:30] <tehxed> transgress, another terminal popped up =\
[02:30] <transgress> bengoodger: i install a different package that was compiled differently and packaged differently if i install different packages.
[02:30] <arrenlex> geeksauce: And uncomment it. Or if it doesn't exist, add it.
[02:30] <nutterpc> brb all, call of nature
[02:30] <transgress> bengoodger: do you use ubuntu repo's on your debian install?
[02:31] <tbc2> can anybody tell me, why deleting /var/logs/mail.log is leading to permanently absence of taht file even after sending again? i would have thought that it is recreated automatically when next sending process is taking place. whta do i have to do to regain a mail.log (just creating an empty file with the right grants isn't the solution).
[02:31] <bengoodger> transgress: obviously not, but I don't use ubuntu nor debian to boot my system... I use GNU GRUB
[02:31] <gyaresu> transgress: bengoodger Now now lads. Silly argument. Let's play nicely together eh?
[02:31] <quanchi2> ben: does ubuntu run faster off of the livecd?
[02:31] <transgress> bengoodger: but you use GRUB compiled and packaged by DEBIAN not grub compiled and packaged by UBUNTU
[02:32] <bengoodger> quanchi2: it runs much, much faster off the hard disk
[02:32] <mjr> quanchi2, CD drives are slow (especially seeking), so no, much slower
[02:32] <quanchi2> off of the harddisk?
[02:32] <quanchi2> or off of the CD?
[02:32] <quanchi2> oh
[02:32] <quanchi2> nvm
[02:32] <quanchi2> lol
[02:32] <bengoodger> quanchi2: it runs much, much faster off the hard disk
[02:32] <quanchi2> my mistake
[02:32] <tehxed> transgress, so how do i remove this?
[02:32] <quanchi2> ben: are you a unix programmer?
[02:32] <tehxed> transgress, sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5.inf   <--that?
[02:32] <bengoodger> transgress: so, if you were to install debian and ubuntu dual-boot you wouldn't dare to use the copy of GRUB that came with either one? what would you use instead? mandrake 6.2's LILO
[02:32] <bengoodger> ?
[02:32] <transgress> no... just "sudo ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5"
[02:33] <quanchi2> i'm just wondering
[02:33] <bengoodger> quanchi2: I hope to be at some point... I'm learning python/gtk atm
[02:33] <quanchi2> oh
[02:33] <StoneNote> tbc2, what user:group do you have for /var/log/mail.log ?
[02:33] <quanchi2> i'm a windows programmer
[02:33] <quanchi2> used to a windows environment only
[02:33] <bengoodger> quanchi2: you have my pity
[02:33] <tbc2> StoneNote: root
[02:33] <quanchi2> i have to get used to this stuff
[02:33] <quanchi2> ha
[02:33] <tehxed> I'm alone again =(
[02:33] <StoneNote> tbc2, root:root?
[02:33] <quanchi2> well unix seems way easier to program on
[02:33] <tbc2> StoneNote: same as for mail.info ;)
[02:33] <quanchi2> i mean when it comes to things like quick projects
[02:34] <StoneNote> tbc2, mine is set to root:adm
[02:34] <quanchi2> thanks for the help, all of you.
[02:34] <blackes1> anyone from the uk with a dvb-t card ?
[02:34] <bengoodger> quanchi2: however, being a programmer makes people assume that you're capable of basic partitioning tasks... evidently windows is more patronising nowadays
[02:34] <quanchi2> I hope this stuff works.
[02:34] <bengoodger> quanchi2: it shoul
[02:34] <bengoodger> d
[02:34] <quanchi2> ben: too bad that isn't the truth
[02:34] <bengoodger> quanchi2: indeed
[02:34] <StoneNote> tbc2, sudo chown root:adm /var/log/mail.log
[02:34] <tbc2> StoneNote: yep, saw that on a webpage previously that it was chmod'ed for group adm
[02:34] <tbc2> but all other mail.* logs are root:root
[02:34] <StoneNote> ok
[02:35] <quanchi2> ben: you can know how to code your own version of DOOM3, but still not know how to make a drive partition :P
[02:35] <quanchi2> lol
[02:35] <Yggdrasil> can somone help me get with this ? controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX
[02:35] <bengoodger> quanchi2: DOOM3 runs on linux, you know :P
[02:35] <quanchi2> lol
[02:35] <tehxed> transgress,  you there?
[02:35] <bengoodger> yay for opengl
[02:35] <quanchi2> well i'm sure you get what i mean.
[02:35] <transgress> tehxed: umm sort of
[02:35] <bengoodger> yeah
[02:35] <quanchi2> :P
[02:35] <quanchi2> DirectX ftw
[02:35] <blackes1> partition with dapper then install edgy ;)
[02:35] <StoneNote> tbc2, not on my system in /var/log
[02:35] <scv> who runs doom now?
[02:36] <quanchi2> i've never even played DOOM
[02:36] <tehxed> transgress, bcmwl5 is already installed. Use -e to remove it
[02:36] <scv> i rather to play nexuiz
[02:36] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: Not getting an IP address?
[02:36] <bengoodger> quanchi2: DOOM was OK... gameplay was good, but the engine was tripe. of course, I only predate it by three years so I'm used to better graphics
[02:36] <transgress> bengoodger: why is it you didn't want to use those instructions i gave you then?
[02:37] <tehxed> gyaresu, you ..have a any ideas?
[02:37] <transgress> tehxed: i just told you what to do.  twice.  \
[02:37] <gyaresu> tehxed: Sorry. About what? (Wireless still?)
[02:37] <bengoodger> transgress: because I don't want ubuntu's installer to run. I'm quite happy to reinstall grub from ubuntu
[02:37] <tehxed> gyaresu, yes
[02:37] <tehxed> transgress, err..
[02:37] <geeksauce> arrenlex, sorry i stepped away for a few mins... lemme catch up :)
[02:37] <tehxed> transgress, <transgress> tehxed: no .inf is required for the -e
[02:37] <tehxed> transgress, that?
[02:38] <quanchi2> k
[02:38] <quanchi2> installation complete
[02:38] <quanchi2> brb
[02:38] <tbc2> StoneNote: tried it, no way ... manually created mail.log stays at 0 bytes
[02:38] <transgress> bengoodger: i'm well aware grub will work from either... however, you came in here asking for info which i gave you assuming you had an ubuntu setup... which you don't... which caused the instructions to be invalid, which is why you shouldn't go to a channel that doesn't support your system... and then i give you other instructions... and you continue to bitch.
[02:38] <quanchi2> let me see if i still have windows
[02:38] <blackes1> bengoodger why is that name familiar ?
[02:38] <tehxed> transgress, but what do i do after the removing (the -e) thing
[02:38] <transgress> tehxed: ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[02:38] <bengoodger> I share a name with the lead developer of Mozilla Firefox. it's perpetually embarrassing
[02:39] <transgress> tehxed: ndiswrapper -l && ndiswrapper -m && modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:39] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu its not showing up when i do ifconfig
[02:39] <bengoodger> transgress: thank you so much for your help
[02:39] <blackes1> firefox ben goodger ?
[02:39] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: 'dmesg |grep eth'
[02:39] <StoneNote> tbc2, cron sends me mail about every half hour. how often is it writing to you?
[02:40] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: 'lspci'
[02:40] <foormea> ahey, do you know if there's still a problem with scim in feisty when not using a CJK session?
[02:40] <blackes1> ah i see
[02:40] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: post the output to pastebin please.
[02:40] <bengoodger> blackes1: no, I'm the other ben goodger
[02:40] <bengoodger> it's annoying.
[02:40] <iresprite> hey, all.
[02:40] <tbc2> StoneNote: how does that rely to my prob? i could not follow ;)
[02:40] <blackes1> coul;d be worse could be called richard stallman
[02:41] <bengoodger> blackes1: good god, no..
[02:41] <tehxed> transgress,  drivername      invalid driver
[02:41] <geeksauce> arrenlex, that line already exists and isn't commented out
[02:41] <iresprite> Got a quick question regarding hostname resolution...
[02:41] <bengoodger> I try to distance myself from insane persons
[02:41] <transgress> tehxed: well... ndiswrapper -i therightdrivername.inf
[02:41] <tehxed> i thought i did
[02:41] <blackes1> anyone here got a dvb-t card in the uk ??
[02:41] <StoneNote> tbc2, it's a log file. things get written to the log file when there is activity. if I created a file with nothing in it, I'd expect there to be nothing in it until the next event wrote something to it. stop me if I'm going to fast here
[02:41] <iresprite> I've got a file server that, for some reason, can't seem to resolve any hostnames. I'm behind a router, and it's only recently that this has occurred.
[02:41] <tbc2> StoneNote: i haven' cron'ed a script mailx-ing me
[02:42] <transgress> tehxed: or is that from the modprobe?
[02:42] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu ok will do
[02:42] <tehxed> transgress, from the modprobe
[02:42] <skel> iresprite: did you check the usual? /etc/hosts  /etc/resolv.conf  ?
[02:42] <bengoodger> blackes1: I hope to buy one one day... there's a specific card you should buy, in order to not want to kill yourself
[02:42] <arrenlex> geeksauce: I dunno then. Sorry.
[02:42] <tbc2> StoneNote: i will manually shell the mailx to produce log activity
[02:42] <bengoodger> I forget which one
[02:42] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Maybe this will help you: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58434&highlight=swat
[02:42] <iresprite> Well, there's not much in those-- this is a vanilla installation, and I haven't done anything with it.
[02:42] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Use mine if you can.
[02:42] <StoneNote> tbc2, now that's a good idea
[02:42] <tbc2> StoneNote: just using 'mailx -s ...'
[02:42] <skel> iresprite: validate that the dns servers specified are reachable and providing responses?
[02:42] <transgress> tehxed: i've heard that reinstalling ndiswrapper-common and ndiswrapper-utils-1.8 helps in some cases... but iuno.
[02:43] <tehxed> transgress, it's worth a shot.
[02:43] <blackes1> well ive got a kworld dvb-t 210 once i modded the v4l driver source its ok :)
[02:43] <tbc2> but mail.log still at 0 bytes ... mail.info growing
[02:43] <bengoodger> blackes1: goood
[02:43] <tehxed> transgress, "udo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils" ?
[02:43] <skel> iresprite: does it only happen with certain hosts? or all resolution?
[02:43] <geeksauce> arrenlex, can you send me that link again?  it's not that i CAN'T use yours, it just bugs me when things don't work like they're supposed to :P
[02:43] <StoneNote> interesting
[02:43] <transgress> tehxed: no.
[02:43] <saxaphone> Where's a good place to learn about setting up dansguardian?
[02:43] <tbc2> if i rename mail.info to mail.info.b ... the mailx will find it *strangebehaviour*
[02:43] <arrenlex> http://arrenlex.ls.la/smb.conf
[02:44] <tehxed> transgress, err..that's suppose to say "sudo"
[02:44] <transgress> tehxed: sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils && sudo aptitude reinstall ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[02:44] <blackes1> only problem is i need 2 more mux's kaffeine will tune the mux once it knows one channel
[02:44] <iresprite> skel: yep, I can ping 'em both. (I got them off my router-- I didn't think they needed to be manually configured on the box.)
[02:44] <transgress> tehxed: then blacklist the bcm43xx driver if you haven't already, reboot, and try to modprobe ndiswrapper then
[02:45] <tehxed> reboot == actually restart or logout/login?
[02:45] <Jeeves_Moss> has anyone had issues with WiFi cards under the latest release?
[02:45] <transgress> tehxed: actually reboot
[02:45] <tehxed> transgress, ah, gotya
[02:45] <baix> hey all, if i want to look at and modify the source code of programs, where would i start?
[02:45] <StoneNote> tbc2, I looked again. postfix is the only thing logging to my mail.log
[02:45] <skel> iresprite: can you do nslookups?
[02:45] <iresprite> skel: Maybe this is relevant. This box uses static ip, whereas I'm using DHCP for most other machines.
[02:45] <iresprite> skel: nope.
[02:45] <Jeeves_Moss> igor:  are you in here?
[02:45] <gyaresu> baix: What are you trying to achieve?
[02:45] <iresprite> skel: the other machine using static ip resolves hostnames fine, though.
[02:46] <tbc2> StoneNote: oh ... mail.log is a postfix logfile were mail.info is related to mailx?
[02:46] <n2diy> Jeeves_Moss: how'd the GPS work out?
[02:46] <skel> iresprite: your router gets your dns servers from your provider, if the dns servers change and that fileserver isnt using dhcp it won't pickup the changes.. have the dnsservers changed ?
[02:46] <Jeeves_Moss> anyone?  WiFi issues, new release?
[02:46] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: You're question is too vague.
[02:46] <StoneNote> tbc2, I'm seeing postfix in .info too
[02:47] <baix> gyaresu, i just want to be able to look at some source code from some real programs (xchat for example) and maybe try to modify and recompile them
[02:47] <StoneNote> tbc2, could be the way I'm set up
[02:47] <Jeeves_Moss> n2diy:  it works great.   However, wouldn't the change in DNS also affect the other machine using static IP? (It's also an Ubuntu machine.)
[02:47] <skel> iresprite: yes it would, in theory
[02:47] <unity> hi, was wondering what version of nfs-kernel-dameon/server (whatever it's called) ships with ubuntu 6.10?
[02:47] <n2diy> Jeeves_Moss: roger that, not playing with wifi here, yet.
[02:47] <tbc2> StoneNote: i did a '/etc/init.d/postfix restart' and ...
[02:47] <iresprite> skel: If this is somehow the case, how would I update the box to use the new DNS servers?
[02:47] <tbc2> -rw-r--r-- 1 root adm      0 2007-02-24 02:36 mail.log
[02:47] <tbc2> ^ still 0 bytes
[02:48] <Phlosten> iresprite: is your /etc/resolv.conf empty?
[02:48] <gyaresu> baix: So you want to learn how to programme? Start with one of the easier languages. Ruby/Python...
[02:48] <Jeeves_Moss> n2diy:  well, I'm getting annoyed.  it worked flawlessly in the previous release, niw the update is screwing up.  and I NEED it to work on his one.
[02:48] <tehxed> wtf?!
[02:48] <tehxed> it's not letting me edit blacklist
[02:48] <sha1sum> hey guys... wondering if altering your installation environment changes your install at all (ie, does adding/removing packages from the install livecd session alter the packages on your system?).
[02:48] <iresprite> phlosten: yes.
[02:48] <skel> iresprite: well other than manually getting the dns servers that the router pulls, it depends on your setup
[02:48] <Phlosten> iresprite: well make it not empty
[02:48] <skel> doh
[02:48] <skel> iresprite: ^^ what Phlosten said :)
[02:49] <n2diy> Jeeves_Moss: roger that too, good luck.
[02:49] <gyaresu> baix: http://tryruby.hobix.com/
[02:49] <iresprite> phlosten: ah. Okay. I wasn't aware that was an issue-- the machine has worked for months without it being a problem.
[02:49] <skel> iresprite: you could always setup a cron job to rsync one of your dhcp boxes to grab the /etc/resolv.conf
[02:49] <StoneNote> tbc2, I have to admit I'm out of ideas
[02:49] <Jeeves_Moss> n2diy:  thanks.  Oh, BTW, can you hop over to #jeeves?  I've got some information on that server.
[02:49] <iresprite> phlosten: the file says do not edit by hand! your changes will be overwritten!
[02:49] <Phlosten> iresprite: no entry in resolv.conf means no dns resolution
[02:49] <iresprite> except with more caps. :)
[02:49] <n2diy> Jeeves_Moss: sure
[02:49] <saxaphone> Where's a good place to learn about setting up dansguardian?
[02:50] <Phlosten> iresprite: what have you got installed on that box in the way of server apps?
[02:50] <iresprite> skel: a cron job, eh?
[02:50] <baix> gyaresu, i'm already familiar with python and i'm decent with C++, it would be nice to try to apply some of what i've learned to modify programs i already use. i guess my main question is does apt-get grab the source code and where does it put it?
[02:50] <sha1sum> is anybody knowing this? :D
[02:50] <mqueiros> Does anyone knows Why each 5 sec. I get the "^[[C" inserted in my dapper drake ? I can see it apearing in the gnome terminal...
[02:50] <iresprite> phlosten: how do you mean? This is basically a samba/apache box.
[02:50] <iresprite> nothing too special.
[02:50] <saxaphone> !dansguardian
[02:50] <ubotu> dansguardian: Web content filtering. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-antivirus-6.3.8-1-1 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 1464 kB
[02:50] <tbc2> StoneNote: me too ;)
[02:51] <Phlosten> iresprite: i am curious as to what is playing with your resolv.conf :)
[02:51] <tbc2> thats the reason for being here so late
[02:51] <gyaresu> baix: You can just download the source code to any program from their site and extract it to a directory and then mess around and compile it in that directory. Start with something that has no dependancies.
[02:51] <tbc2> its actually 2:51 ... AM!
[02:51] <sha1sum> okay maybe one more time in a more simple way: does adding or removing packages on the livecd install session change what will be installed on your HD?
[02:51] <gyaresu> If you can code a bit then you should know this (no offence meant).
[02:51] <iresprite> phlosten: fair enough. I haven't done anything special to it of late. What kind of apps are you thinking of?
[02:51] <Phlosten> iresprite: my resolv.conf just has two lines. 1st line is ip of dns server 1 and 2nd line is ip of dns server 2
[02:51] <ConstyXIV> is there a panel app that checks your mailbox?
[02:52] <kitche> ConstyXIV: I know kde has one for kmail not sure about gnome
[02:52] <iresprite> phlosten: yep. that's what my healthy static ip box has.
[02:52] <Phlosten> iresprite: is it a ubuntu box?
[02:52] <baix> gyaresu, ok thanks, was just curious if apt-get already grabbed them
[02:52] <Jeeves_Moss> anyone?  help with this WiFi issue?
[02:52] <iresprite> actually, three lines.
[02:52] <ConstyXIV> i know kde has one.  this is gnome
[02:52] <iresprite> the first one being "search foo.bar.baz.net."
[02:53] <iresprite> (well, not foo.bar.baz... but you know what I mean.)
[02:53] <Phlosten> iresprite: yeah, thats fine
[02:53] <tehxed> transgress, before i go.. "ndiswrapper -l && ndiswrapper -m && modprobe ndiswrapper" is to modprobe, right?
[02:53] <iresprite> phlosten: yes. :) 6.06.
[02:53] <Phlosten> iresprite: just copy that
[02:53] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: What is the issue?
[02:54] <iresprite> phlosten: fair enough. I'm wondering what's overwriting it, then. Or, rather,what's not starting that *should* be overwriting it.
[02:54] <transgress> tehxed: no.  just modprobe ndiswrapper at this point
[02:54] <transgress> tehxed: that other stuff was some extra one time use stuff
[02:54] <Plumy> #ubuntu-fr
[02:54] <tehxed> transgress, thank you
[02:54] <Jeeves_Moss> gyaresu:  my Athoes card worked fine in the last release of Ubuntu, but when I reinstalled the newest one, it won't connect to anything.
[02:54] <tehxed> transgress, be back in 2 to 5
[02:55] <Phlosten> iresprite: wouldnt worry too much, if editing it by hand makes it work all is good. if you loose dns in a few days or whatever then I would have a further looksee
[02:55] <iresprite> phlosten, skel-- thanks so much! Just adding the lines fixed it.
[02:55] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: You know about the iwconfig command?
[02:55] <iresprite> Phlosten: Noted.
[02:55] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: And iwlist?
[02:55] <Phlosten> iresprite: examalent
[02:55] <ConstyXIV> are there any nice gtk+ go programs?
[02:55] <skel> iresprite: =]  glad to provide input =]
[02:56] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: are you there?
[02:56] <Phlosten> ConstyXIV: whats a 'go' program?
[02:56] <Jeeves_Moss> gyaresu:  yes I do, the card is up, but it dosen't display any active networks in the drop down menu, and when I manualy type in the SSID, it won't connect.  there is no encryption on the connection.
[02:56] <iresprite> the game?
[02:56] <ConstyXIV> Phlosten: as in, the board game
[02:56] <ConstyXIV> iresprite: yes
[02:57] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: OK. Could you open a terminal and type (depending on the device name) 'iwlist wlan0 scan'
[02:57] <Phlosten> ConstyXIV: ah ok, not much of a board game person
[02:57] <heathen> ello
[02:58] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: If there's no networks then could you pastebin the output of 'iwconfig'
[02:58] <gyaresu> !hi > heathen
[02:58] <ubuntu> hey
[02:58] <iresprite> constyxiv: yeah, sorry. I've played a couple of times, but don't know much about finding an app on linux.
[02:58] <ubuntu> how can i upgrade nvidia driver
[02:58] <iresprite> constyxiv: freshmeat.net may be of some help to you there.
[02:58] <Jeeves_Moss> gyaresu:  will iwlist ath0 scan give me a list of the networks?  (I'm in my M$ box right now)
[02:58] <ubuntu> and i have installed WIndows Xp,UBuntu and KNoppix but KNoppix don't want to boot
[02:58] <kitche> !nvidia9 | ubuntu
[02:58] <ubotu> ubuntu: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[02:59] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i'm behind a firewall... i shouldn't have to forward port 901 because this is all internal, right?
[02:59] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: Yep. A list of the ones it sees. You've got 'broadcast essid' set to on in the access point I hope.
[02:59] <tehxed> transgress, "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" right?
[02:59] <Jeeves_Moss> gyaresu:  yes, it does.  I'm going to try switching OSes and give it a try.
[03:00] <gyaresu> Jeeves_Moss: K. I might go to the shop for pies though.
[03:00] <gyaresu> geeksauce: that's right ^^
[03:00] <ubuntu> kitche ???
[03:00] <unity> hi, was wondering what version of nfs-kernel-dameon (whatever it's called) ships with ubuntu 6.10? v3 or v4?
[03:01] <ubuntu> kitche and from web site where i an download nvidia update
[03:01] <tehxed> transgress, "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" right?
[03:01] <Jeeves_Moss> gyaresu:  thanks again, I'm going to give it a try, if not, I'll wait till I get home to plug into the CAT 5
[03:02] <gyaresu> Oh. That's gonna end badly.
[03:02] <kitche> ubuntu: that is a apt repo
[03:02] <tehxed> transgress, FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[03:03] <geeksauce> arrenlex, so i should have a file in /etc/xinetd.d/swat called "swat", right?
[03:03] <ubuntu> kitche ??? what that is mean
[03:03] <Talaman> gdmsetup
[03:03] <Talaman> (gdmsetup:5878): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:03] <gyaresu> kitche: ubuntu Just make sure you need the latest version. I didn't see any explanation why you want to upgrade.
[03:03] <ubuntu> gyaersu i have installed nvidia drivers but they are not the latest
[03:04] <gyaresu> ubuntu: Do they work?
[03:04] <ubuntu> gyaresu in nvidia.com the version they are 1.9
[03:04] <gyaresu> ubuntu: Do they work?
[03:04] <ubuntu> gyaresu it work but not good
[03:04] <gyaresu> ubuntu: Not good?
[03:04] <ubuntu> gyaresu i see sometime lines
[03:04] <gyaresu> ubuntu: Ah.
[03:04] <ubuntu> gyaresu ????
[03:05] <no-sweat> ubuntu
[03:05] <no-sweat> hi
[03:05] <ubuntu> no-sweat:  hi
[03:05] <kitche> !hi
[03:05] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[03:05] <gyaresu> ubuntu: kitche was pointing you to a repo that has latest Nvidia package. You need to put that line in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:05] <tieTYT2> i notice that ubuntu displays all usernames when you lock the screen and choose switch user.  Isn't that a security risk?
[03:05] <heathen> hello *buntu-ians
[03:05] <tehxed> transgress, ...!?
[03:05] <ubuntu> gyaresu and how can i do it.
[03:05] <gyaresu> !repos > ubuntu
[03:06] <gyaresu> tieTYT2: Not unless they know your password.
[03:06] <ubuntu> ok
[03:06] <StoneNote> tieTYT2, physical access to the hardware is the largest security risk of all.  that's why it's always a good idea to be careful who you hire. but in a word, yes. it is a security risk
[03:06] <kitche> tieTYT2: having physical access is a security risk so them seeing those names are not a big deal
[03:07] <tieTYT2> ok so they can only see that screen if they physically access it?  They can't see it with VNC?
[03:07] <Talaman> (gdmsetup:5878): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:07] <gyaresu> "physical access": There. That makes it a hat-trick.
[03:07] <Talaman> and when i reboot i get the command prompt
[03:07] <no-sweat> ubuntu live rocks
[03:08] <HSBC> Taco Bell Rates with Ubuntu
[03:08] <no-sweat> amirite?
[03:08] <HSBC> ack
[03:08] <ConstyXIV> i think nearly every system shows the logged in user when it's locked
[03:08] <gyaresu> Talaman: Did you just update your system. Or is it a fresh install. We need more information about what has transpired.
[03:08] <heathen> mmm taco bell
[03:08] <Talaman> non of the above
[03:08] <HSBC> heathen:  http://www.1010wins.com/pages/263656.php?contentType=4&contentId=346444
[03:08] <HSBC> you will not want to eat taco bell anymore :P
[03:08] <Talaman> set something and need to set it back
[03:08] <ConstyXIV> gnome, kde, windows, (mabye mac, dont know)
[03:08] <javiolo> hi
[03:08] <Talaman> don't remember what it was
[03:08] <HSBC> ecoli, rats, ill pass, just give me my ubuntu
[03:08] <jessie^^> Is there a way I can stop network-manager-gnome from rewriting my /etc/resolv.conf?
[03:08] <Talaman> when i do gdmsetup i get this
[03:08] <Talaman> (gdmsetup:5878): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:09] <Assid> heya
[03:09] <MistaED> could someone help me get wine to work with com or /dev/ttyS0 ? i'm guessing you symlink in dosdevices COM1 to point to /dev/ttyS0 is this correct?
[03:09] <gyaresu> Talaman: Please give more information if you can.
[03:09] <Talaman> can't
[03:09] <Talaman> that's all info i have
[03:09] <transgress> tehxed: sorry i was away.  i don't know man.  you can try building ndiswrapper manually
[03:09] <Assid> i loaded up kubuntu-desktop, and i am currently in it, but every window looks too much like a gtk widget
[03:09] <gyaresu> Talaman: Yes because you are just getting a command prompt right?
[03:09] <sree> hey, have ubuntu edgy + broadcom 4306 wireless card.
[03:09] <Talaman> yep
[03:09] <sree> network keeps diconnecting
[03:09] <aSt3raL> sree: what network?
[03:09] <sree> could someone help
[03:09] <Talaman> but i can activate gdm
[03:09] <tehxed> transgress, that's alright
[03:10] <ConstyXIV> sree: bcm43xx or ndiswrapper
[03:10] <sree> wireless
[03:10] <Assid> everything is like a bulky bold font and the buttons are all ugly, is there any way to reset to pure kde ?
[03:10] <ConstyXIV> ?
[03:10] <tehxed> transgress, i'll.. just go back to XP eventually =\
[03:10] <kitche> sree: is this after your system goes into sleep mode?
[03:10] <a5benwillis> I have a 'small test application' that came with an NSS module that Im testing. I cant figure out how to 'execute' it
[03:10] <a5benwillis>  Ive tried sh, perl, python......
[03:10] <a5benwillis>  the instructions say "Run the test program with the -U option"
[03:10] <Talaman> just can't do anything with gdmsetup
[03:10] <sree> bcm43xx
[03:10] <gyaresu> Talaman: Could you please post /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin?
[03:10] <tehxed> transgress, I'm going to try and insdtall Beryl now..
[03:10] <tieTYT2> thx
[03:10] <aSt3raL> Talaman: what are you trying to do?
[03:10] <sree> no. it drops off even while i am actively using it
[03:10] <kitche> a5benwillis: you run the application ./app -U
[03:10] <Assid> hrmm i wanna try beryl too.. 512 ram is minimum tho right ?
[03:10] <ubuntu> kitche it won't worek
[03:10] <tehxed> Assid, I don't know.
[03:11] <a5benwillis> ahah
[03:11] <tehxed> Assid, I think 256 is.
[03:11] <kitche> Assid: no it runs fine on 128 megs
[03:11] <Talaman> trying to get my system to default login at the "windows" or "gui" and not the command prompt
[03:11] <tehxed> kitche, but nothing fancy with 128 megs.. right?
[03:11] <aSt3raL> sree: what wireless network?
[03:11] <kryos> Anyone have pointers,good info on setting up xorg, etc for old machine with serial mouse, etc?
[03:11] <sree> i tried to install ndiswrapper once but never managed to get it working
[03:11] <gyaresu> Talaman: can you get to the gdm login?
[03:11] <Assid> hrmm, whats the link to get it working ?
[03:11] <aSt3raL> sree: is it a home wireless?
[03:11] <wubrgamer> hey guys
[03:11] <wubrgamer> i need help
[03:11] <a5benwillis> kitche: I forgot abt that one
[03:11] <sree> yeah home wireless
[03:11] <Assid> also, how do i fix this widgetty stuff.. everything looks too ugly
[03:11] <Talaman> if i type sudo gdm from my login or gdm from the root login
[03:11] <gyaresu> Talaman: Is your computer just starting up and then crashing to the command prompt?
[03:11] <wubrgamer> really i need help, i messed up my root password for mysql
[03:11] <sree> no encryption
[03:12] <ConstyXIV> Talaman: do you mean auto-login the desktop, but not CMD?
[03:12] <tehxed> Assid, how far you along with the installation?
[03:12] <wubrgamer> how do i COMPLETELY wipe mysql and reinstall ?
[03:12] <tehxed> Assid, the beryl installation
[03:12] <kitche> tehxed: beryl tends to use the card memory more
[03:12] <Assid> tehxed: not started
[03:12] <wubrgamer> i need NOTHIGN mysql related untill after the reinstall, no personalization has been done so far
[03:12] <ubuntu> pfuuu in vmware from windows UBuntu work good,but when someone install it clean on the computer it work like shit.
[03:12] <ubuntu> GOodbye.
[03:12] <LapSmiley_> hey guys
[03:12] <tehxed> kitche, have beryl running/
[03:12] <Talaman> no, i mean i want to see a gui window asking for my user name and password instead of a command prompt
[03:12] <LapSmiley_> how would i go about installing extra hardware
[03:12] <Assid> kitche: am using ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop package
[03:12] <ConstyXIV> Talaman: you mean like the default install?
[03:13] <LapSmiley_> im a gentoo user, but i've got ubuntu on my laptop... so im looking to install the other bits, such as pcmcia.
[03:13] <aSt3raL> sree: have you tried network manager applet?
[03:13] <gyaresu> Talaman: Do you want help? If so could you maybe answer the questions? I've already asked you to post your Xorg log to pastebin. ConstyXIV please look up.
[03:13] <kitche> tehxed: not now but I ran it it ran pretty smooth for me on 256 megs and a 64 mb DDR2 geforce 2 card
[03:13] <sree> yeah I did... it showed up all the netorks.. but when i selected it did not connect to any
[03:13] <aSt3raL> sree: there also is a ndiswrapper gui for gnome
[03:13] <HSBC> hi
[03:13] <tehxed> kitche, that's pretty good to hear
[03:14] <kitche> Talaman: you probably disabled gdm on boot
[03:14] <HSBC> yay i got +v?
[03:14] <geeksauce> SWAT is giving me a giant headache.  i have followed these instructions to get it up and running on the ubuntu forums, and i can't even get it to where it's listening on port 901
[03:14] <Assid> tehxed: got a link for me to use? i got a amd1800, 256 ram (2 ram slots dead on my mobo) and geforce2 mx 440se
[03:14] <blaze> !firewall
[03:14] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:14] <sree> what does the gui actually give ?
[03:14] <Talaman> gyaresu, i am getting it...i am also being asked questions by other people...and if i recall i got less help from you last time i asked about this problem
[03:14] <HSBC> oops
[03:14] <SmileyLap> !hardware
[03:14] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:14] <blaze> !games
[03:14] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[03:14] <ConstyXIV> Talaman: if you're running the default (k|x)ubuntu, that happens by default
[03:14] <HSBC> !help
[03:14] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:14] <HSBC> !google
[03:14] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[03:14] <tehxed> Assid, just reading up myself. I don't know much about Ubuntu or linux really. Just trying it out
[03:14] <HSBC> !Google Marissa
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google marissa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:15] <HSBC> lol
[03:15] <tehxed> Assid, let me see if I can find you a link.
[03:15] <kitche> !fishing | HSBC
[03:15] <ubotu> HSBC: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:15] <Assid> thanks
[03:15] <Talaman> what happends by default, and what screen controls that default?
[03:15] <gyaresu> Talaman: I don't think I've ever helped you but best of luck.
[03:15] <Talaman> and how do i set it back to default
[03:15] <Assid> on another issue, anyone know how to get ubuntu to stop using gnome stuff? and use pure kde? the windows are looking too much like gtk widgets
[03:16] <kitche> Talaman: go to /etc/init.d and see if gdm is green
[03:16] <Assid> i am currently using kubuntu-desktop package
[03:16] <Talaman> and no gyaresu, you never have
[03:16] <ConstyXIV> Assid: go to System Settings-Apperance, and check to see if you're using gtk or kde apps
[03:16] <elyon225> Short of restarting X, what can I do when my desktop disappears?
[03:16] <elyon225> ...background, all icons... gone.
[03:17] <bulmer> did you happen to go to the console?
[03:17] <HSBC> brains need play and work and ubuntu
[03:17] <HSBC> :)
[03:17] <ConstyXIV> Assid: i meant to say, system settings-appearance, change all the themes to kde-ish stuff, and make sure youre actually using kde apps
[03:17] <gyaresu> kitche: 'ls -l /etc/rc2.d/' all the K's are stopped. All the S's are started.
[03:18] <yomm>   does "sudo reboot" does exactly the same as "sudo shutdown -r now" ?
[03:18] <ConstyXIV> yomm: more or less, yes
[03:18] <tehxed> Assid, http://www.beryl-project.org/faq.php#gq5
[03:18] <tehxed> Assid, that's a pretty high standard. I think they need to get that checked.
[03:18] <Talaman> kitche> it appears to be the same color as everything else there
[03:18] <yomm> Consty : I heard the shutdown is the safest bet ..
[03:19] <charles> any network experts here? I'm having a hell of a time setting up my gateway
[03:19] <ConstyXIV> yomm: or, if you would rather, "sudo init 6"
[03:19] <ConstyXIV> yomm: no difference from what I know
[03:19] <yomm> Is that the safest , Consty ?
[03:19] <sha1sum> okay... so what's the ubiquity equivalent of the boot option 'priority=low' for debian-installer.... installing feisty (already verified it works)  If there's not an equivalent, is the ability to use debian-installer still available?
[03:19] <aSt3raL> charles: whats the problem?
[03:19] <yomm> I see !
[03:19] <sha1sum> <---- control freak
[03:19] <ConstyXIV> yomm: i don't think there's any difference, but someone will correct me if im wrong :)
[03:20] <kitche> Talaman: hmm maybe /etc/rc2.d is setup wrong I don't know to much about that fodler sicne I tend to like the BSD-style init system so I only play around with /etc/init.d folder and not /etc/rc2.d
[03:20] <charles> I can't get through my gateway to a public ip behind it
[03:20] <tehxed> charles, Gateway laptop?
[03:20] <aSt3raL> heh
[03:20] <charles> no, network gateway
[03:20] <sha1sum> heheheh
[03:20] <aSt3raL> charles: what sort of internet connection?
[03:20] <Talaman> so if i am in the gui (kde) what would i click on to set the gui login to default?
[03:20] <fulat2k> any idea what could cause my edgy installation to reload the login screen when coming back from a Suspend operation?
[03:20] <sree> anyone think they can help me ?
[03:21] <aSt3raL> sree:  msg me
[03:21] <blaze> Any of you all play any games on *nix?
[03:21] <charles> dsl -> (eth0: gateway : eth2) -> other machine with public ip
[03:21] <yomm> Consty : many subtle differences on Linux sometimes :)
[03:21] <ConstyXIV> blaze: define "games"
[03:21] <gyaresu> sree: or post your question and get everyones help...
[03:21] <sha1sum> why are everybody else's questions so quick to get answered? lol
[03:21] <aSt3raL> charles: do you have any other machine working with this connection?
[03:21] <fulat2k> used to work b4 i installed Beryl.  but it still doesn't work properly even with beryl uninstalled.
[03:21] <blaze> how do you define games?
[03:22] <blaze> I mean things you play for fun
[03:22] <Linuturk> can I install Ubuntu from a floppy drive? I don't have a cdrom drive
[03:22] <Assid> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440]  (rev a3)
[03:22] <Assid> that qualifies?
[03:22] <jrib> sha1sum: you can use the alternate cd
[03:22] <n2diy> sha1sum: the answers are known.
[03:22] <blaze> but locally
[03:22] <blaze> I don't mean wargames
[03:22] <aSt3raL> sree has a broadcom wireless issue
[03:22] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7292/
[03:22] <techie1> I thought the ubuntu disk had xchat in it to communicate in here but I had to go back to windows xp do so .
[03:22] <Linuturk> sree: i've found ndiswrapper to be best for broadcom
[03:22] <jrib> !alternate | sha1sum
[03:22] <ubotu> sha1sum: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:22] <ConstyXIV> blaze: hacking the kernel and recompiling for fun and profit :)
[03:22] <aSt3raL> techie1: sudo apt-get xchat
[03:22] <Linuturk> is there a floppy based installer for Ubuntu?
[03:22] <techie1> Also are there any icons on the lower part of the screen
[03:22] <Linuturk> I have net access, just no CD drive
[03:23] <Assid> ConstyXIV: you know the exact themes.. still looks a little too widgetty
[03:23] <jeff22> hi, where do I get the package gnome-ppp?
[03:23] <ConstyXIV> techie1: i think we dropped it from the default because gaim also does irc
[03:23] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: Why aren't you using the Realtek 8139. That works out of the box...
[03:23] <Linuturk> gaim for irc == fail
[03:23] <techie1> is gaim part of the program?
[03:23] <Linuturk> !floppy
[03:23] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[03:23] <charles> aSt3raL, yeah I'm connected through the machine right now
[03:23] <techie1> I did not see it.
[03:23] <Linuturk> !floppy install
[03:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about floppy install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:23] <aSt3raL> charles: with ubuntu?
[03:23] <Yggdrasil> gy its acting up
[03:24] <aSt3raL> charles: whats the problem then?
[03:24] <techie1> also ubotu when you install via livecd does it partition automatically even though I have windows xp in my system?
[03:24] <charles> aSt3raL, right now I'm connected through a nat'd machine. the other machine wont connect
[03:24] <SpacePuppy> techie1: nope.. you gotta do it manually
[03:24] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu this is a box, thats stuck inside of a bucket and runs on my rooftop
[03:24] <sree> I tried installing ndiswrapper without success
[03:24] <aSt3raL> ubotu is a bot heh
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is a bot heh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <tehxed> Does anyone the x-server driver's name for an ATI Radeon X200M?
[03:24] <ConstyXIV> blaze: on a more serious note, i do tend to play a good bit of mahjongg and holotz-castle, but that's because my lappy has no 3d
[03:24] <charles> aSt3raL, the two machines behind the gateway are ubuntu, the gateway itself is debian
[03:24] <sree> however I also have a dapper version that works perfectly fine
[03:24] <sree> with network manager
[03:24] <pryme> How do you add aspell or hash to abiword?
[03:24] <AndrewB> !ati | tehxed
[03:24] <ubotu> tehxed: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:25] <Assid> should i use the aiglx method?
[03:25] <aSt3raL> charles: so one machine works and the other doesnt?
[03:25] <Assid> that says recommended.. then it says may not work
[03:25] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: So you want to get the second card up for some other purpose?
[03:25] <tehxed> AndrewB, Thanks
[03:25] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu that realtek is broken, its only functional part of the time
[03:25] <Talaman> so if i am in the gui (kde) what would i click on to set the gui login to default?
[03:25] <aSt3raL> charles: can you ask a more specific question?
[03:25] <techie1> Anyone is the double boot install with windows xp straightforward?
[03:25] <Yggdrasil> i hd to write a script that restarts that eth0 on boot to get it up on a regular basis
[03:26] <charles> aSt3raL, I can get out from both machines, I can get in to the nat'd machine through port forwarding, I can't get to the public machine from the oustide
[03:26] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: Ah. And the box is actually already in the roof? So you are connecting via Wireless?
[03:26] <aSt3raL> techie1: yes
[03:26] <HowDoIResetTheGu> hmm
[03:26] <AndrewB> techie1: very. Install Windows first then GNU/Linux second. Make sure you have two partitions and its all easy.
[03:26] <khaije1> anyone now how fiesty is coming along?
[03:26] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu yes, its used as a wireless gateway
[03:26] <khaije1> *know
[03:26] <AndrewB> khaije1: Very well. :)
[03:26] <aSt3raL> charles: you probably have to set up port forwarding to get into a machine from the internet for all machines
so i have to partition manually first
[03:27] <AndrewB> techie1: can do it from windows.
[03:27] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: Was the Lite-On card working before?
[03:27] <techie1> I already have windows xp
[03:27] <Yggdrasil> no
explain further
[03:27] <aSt3raL> charles: your dsl router has the only public ip address
[03:27] <charles> aSt3raL, the other machine has it's own IP, so it should have it's own ports
[03:27] <Yggdrasil> well i assume it works
[03:27] <Yggdrasil> cant see why it wouldnt
[03:27] <khaije1> AndrewB: it's expected to stick to the scheduled release window then?
[03:27] <AndrewB> techie1: what file system you using on Windows?
you mean going to NTFS
[03:27] <aSt3raL> charles: what ip address is that?
[03:27] <charles> aSt3raL, i own a block of 8 ips
[03:27] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: 'ifconfig'?
[03:27] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu ive got all day tomorow to play with it, its working for now . but i wanted to get it stable again
[03:27] <techie1> using NTFS for the partition
[03:27] <techie1> in windows xp professional
[03:27] <AndrewB> Ok
[03:27] <Yggdrasil> gyaresu i gtta go are you gonna be on tomorrow
go ahead, i am listneing
[03:28] <Yggdrasil> problem is when i mess with the box i cant be online.
[03:28] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: Dunno. Maybe see you then.
[03:28] <charles> aSt3raL, my network's gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>, my personal gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>, the other public ip is <IP_ADDRESS>2
[03:28] <Yggdrasil> yar thanks for the hel
[03:28] <techie1> do i need system rescue to partition before installing
[03:28] <Yggdrasil> help
[03:28] <gyaresu> Yggdrasil: np. See you tomorrow.
[03:28] <sree> oh what does the ndiswrapper gui give me ?
[03:29] <aSt3raL> sree: just a way to set up a driver with ndis
[03:29] <Vilhelms> Ugh, for some reason I can't open some programs... like random programs. I wasn't able to open Gnome X-chat but I can open xchat. I can't open x-terminal-emulator, I can't open bluefish, Its weird. :(
[03:29] <AndrewB> techie1: two secs looking up a guide for you
do I need to partition with system rescue before installing off the livecd?
ok, thanks.
[03:29] <sree> does it make it easy to setup ndiswrapper and blacklist bcmw43xx
[03:30] <sree> i mean i have tried this whole process of installing ndiswrapper many times on edgy without success
[03:30] <Yggdrasil> bbl
[03:30] <aSt3raL> bah if you two with networking problems want to msg me thats great
[03:30] <aSt3raL> this channel scrolls too much
[03:30] <metafour> Hi all, I'm downloading Ubuntu as my first distribution and wnated to know how to have fluxbox installed and gnome removed
[03:30] <sree> aSt3raL .. how can i message u ?
[03:30] <simpla> Heya
[03:30] <Assid> E: Couldn't find package linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-28-386
[03:30] <Assid> hrmm
[03:31] <aSt3raL> sree:  /msg aSt3raL message
[03:31] <Assid> what am i supposed to use?
[03:31] <elyon225> Short of restarting X, what can I do when my desktop disappears?
[03:31] <elyon225> ...background, all icons... gone.
I am actually trying to do a double boot with half/half with whatever space I got left which is about 23 gig
[03:31] <aSt3raL> elyon225: you could try and restart gdm
[03:31] <AndrewB> I am not sure if gParted supports NTFS. Can anybody vairfy?
[03:31] <aSt3raL> it does not afiak
[03:32] <JucaBlues> how do I upgrade rhytmbox to a newer version?
[03:32] <AndrewB> Didnt think so
[03:32] <tehxed> Anyone know how I can get my video card's bus identifier
[03:32] <simpla> Can anyone help me with dualbooting ubuntu and Windows XP with Grub.  I have 2 hdds, linux on one, and windows on the other.
[03:32] <JucaBlues> rhythmbox --version
[03:32] <JucaBlues> Gnome rhythmbox 0.9.6
[03:32] <JucaBlues> but I want to have 0.9.8
[03:32] <tehxed> Anyone know how I can get my video card's bus identifier
[03:32] <aSt3raL> JucaBlues: run synaptic package manager
[03:32] <simpla> It comes up with errors when I try to boot from either through the grub menu.  If I pull one of the hdd's out, it works..  Any ideas on whats going on, or where I could look to help solve it?
[03:32] <geeksauce> alright sweet... i got swat to ask for auth info.  what do i put there?  it isn't accepting my normal info there
Then Probably I must do it manually with system rescue and then install the livecd. Anybody knows?
[03:33] <AndrewB> techie1: yeah looks that way.
[03:33] <techie1> ok, good enough for me. thanks. I will report back and let you all know.
[03:33] <techie1> thanks for all the input.
[03:33] <techie1> bye for now.
[03:34] <vox754> I want to watch TV with vlc. It gives me an error that the "chroma" is not set or something like that. Any experience? I also have tried totem, and mplayer and so far I can only watch TV with xawtv.
[03:35] <simpla> join #grub
[03:35] <RxDx> what program should i use to up musics on ipod?
[03:35] <geeksauce> what should i be entering for the authentication info for SWAT?
[03:35] <JucaBlues> aSt3raL: I have opened synaptic. It says I have rhythmbox 0.9.6-0ubuntu4 installed
[03:35] <posingaspopular> RxDx: transfer to ipod?
[03:35] <RxDx> posingaspopular, yes
[03:35] <JucaBlues> but I want 0.9.8.How would I install that?
[03:35] <Ironman273> How come Rhythmbox doesn't play MP3s?  It says it need Gstreamer?
[03:35] <jeff22> does anyone know where I can get gnome-ppp package?
[03:36] <sree> aSt3raL.. why ain't u responding.... ain't u getting my messages ?
[03:36] <AndrewB> RxDx: gtkpod ?
[03:36] <RxDx> AndrewB, thanks, ill try
[03:36] <posingaspopular> RxDx: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9266
[03:36] <jessie^^> anyone know of an app I can use to monitor system temperature?
[03:36] <RxDx> posingaspopular, thanks
[03:36] <charles> sree, no luck for me either
[03:36] <AndrewB> sree: you need to be registered user on Freenode to send private messages.
[03:36] <geeksauce> SWAT help, anyone?
[03:36] <aSt3raL> JucaBlues: if its showing the latest version is installed than it should be
[03:37] <AndrewB> jessie^^: sensors
[03:37] <aSt3raL> sree: no i am not
[03:37] <posingaspopular> np
[03:37] <sree> AndrewB how do i do that ?
[03:37] <heathen> stupid laptop overheating
[03:37] <JucaBlues> is there a way to intall a newer version of a software that was not packaged by ubuntu yet?
[03:37] <AndrewB> sree: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[03:38] <mikere> JucaBlues: there's always compiling from source
[03:38] <AndrewB> sree: the person who you are PM'ing also needs to be registered.
[03:38] <Assid> tehxed: which method did you use to install
[03:38] <AndrewB> JucaBlues: get a very very new apt repo, or compile from source or CVS/SVN
[03:38] <aSt3raL_> sree:  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[03:39] <tehxed> Assid, give me link again
[03:39] <tehxed> Assid, i'm configuring xserver-xorg
[03:39] <jessie^^> AndrewB: installed it, how do i get it on the panel?
[03:39] <f> libero
[03:39] <JucaBlues> mikere: thanks
[03:39] <Assid> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[03:39] <JucaBlues> AndrewB: thanks
[03:39] <AndrewB> jessie^^: oh on the panel? Im not sure.
[03:40] <AndrewB> jessie^^: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[03:40] <geeksauce> default SWAT password is???
[03:40] <BelialMkII> At the start of this tutorial, where can i find the menu it is asking me to change things in on edgy? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[03:40] <Assid> tehxed:  http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[03:40] <yomm>  /exit
[03:41] <tehxed> Assid, Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:41] <Assid> tehxed: aiglx?
[03:41] <kalikiana> How can I open a MS Works file (wps) or convert it to another format?
[03:41] <AndrewB> BelialMkII: your menu editor maybe hiding these options. check them out in menu editor.
[03:42] <tehxed> probably going to ..with the ati
[03:42] <BelialMkII> Will do, thanks AndrewB
[03:42] <AndrewB> np
[03:42] <FuzzyTheBear> got a problem fixing a machine .. trying to mount a ntfs volume to delete a bunch of files that are part of a bad trojan but it says even with the -w in the mount .. cant do it .. it's read only .. so im wondering if a ubuntu cd has a kernel with ntfs write options ? id very much appreciate the help . Thanks
[03:42] <sree>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY
[03:42] <fnf> Is there an app/Firefox extension that works on non-RSS enabled sites ?. I mean there're sites that don't have RSS Feeds but I want to automatically check when the page is changed.
[03:42] <geeksauce> anyone know what the default login info is for SWAT?
[03:42] <sree>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY swatcat
[03:43] <gyaresu> kalikiana: Have you tried OpenOffice. (I can't remember if it likes wps files or not)
[03:43] <sree> i tried this... didn't work
[03:43] <AndrewB> fnf: unlikly tbh.. to scrape off a page is a hard task.
[03:43] <geeksauce> anyone know what the default login info is for SWAT?
[03:43] <kalikiana> gyaresu, I did, doesn't work. :/
[03:43] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Got it to work, eh? That's a good question. I've always used the root account.
[03:43] <zpertee> error locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory.  Anyone know what this is all about
[03:44] <fnf> AndrewB: I think it wouldn't be hard to implement though, just periodically download the page then diff with the old file.
[03:44] <gyaresu> kalikiana: I know MSOffice can't even open them.  I have never heard of it tho..
[03:44] <fnf> AndrewB: Thanks anyway.
[03:44] <AndrewB> fnf: good luck
[03:45] <geeksauce> arrenlex, yeah i followed those directions on that page you gave me.  the file i had to add had a comment line suggesting that i change to a restricted user instead of root
[03:45] <fnf> AndrewB: The hard part is actually the UI that holds me from writing one :) .
[03:45] <kalikiana> gyaresu, I read in a forum that MS recommends to save it as RTF to open it in MS Office *harhar
[03:45] <geeksauce> arrenlex, which i did, but it won't take my regular login info now
[03:45] <gyaresu> kalikiana: Which doesn't help you any.
[03:46] <tom__>  /msg ubotu
[03:46] <elpargo> hi anyone knows if there is a openGL package for freeciv?
[03:47] <FuzzyTheBear> can a reent ubuntu live cd do write operations on a ntfs partition ?
[03:47] <FuzzyTheBear> can a recent ubuntu live cd do write operations on a ntfs partition ?
[03:47] <FuzzyTheBear> sorry .. bad typing
[03:47] <scienceboy> hello again. i am a complete linux n00b. i use the synaptic program to download and install gnuchess, but it didn't turn up under applications>games. also, i don't know how to acess ~/.mozilla/firefox/ so that i can transfer my firefox settings from one computer to another
[03:47] <gyaresu> kalikiana: shazam! http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=32E7205A-3880-4416-9260-57A96C8A9A76&displaylang=en
[03:47] <arrenlex> geeksauce: You're outside the scope if my experience with swat now, sorry. = /
[03:47] <gyaresu> kalikiana: not very Linuxy but maybe with Wine?
[03:48] <arrenlex> Hisss! microsoft.com! It burnssss uss.
[03:48] <sree> :(
[03:48] <AndrewB> scienceboy: a .foo folder is hidden. on your browser go to View.. then hidden files.
[03:48] <AndrewB> scienceboy: as for the other go into a terminal and enter gnuchess   and hit enter.
[03:48] <hairulfr> I have a cd with a scratch on, when reading normally, the file is ok, but when ripping (it needs to be an *.iso it doesn't work) anyway to slow down gnomebaker and make it more accurate
[03:48] <vox754> FuzzyTheBear, have you tried installing !fuse with the live CD
[03:48] <vox754> !fuse
[03:48] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:48] <contents> Hey all, I've got a problem with my desktop.  So I changed the name in /etc/fstab and made a new folder in /media with the new name. But when I restart, the folder on the desktop still has the old name.
[03:48] <jramsey> apt-get cmd to install the kernel headers for dapper pls?
[03:49] <scienceboy> andrewB: what is a .foo file? i did that and i see it
[03:49] <AndrewB> scienceboy: any directory with a . at the beginning [a prefix]  is a hidden dir.
[03:49] <geeksauce> arrenlex, ok.  well back to the original dilema... how to allow XP machines to view SMB shares without authentication
[03:49] <contents> Does anyone have any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated
[03:49] <elpargo> FuzzyTheBear, no the kernel driver is not that stable
[03:49] <AndrewB> scienceboy: normally for settings of programs.
[03:50] <scienceboy> andrewb: thank you! but what about the file i dled and installed from synaptic?
[03:50] <sree> guys trying to register keeps telling me sree nickname is taken
[03:50] <sree> how do i register as another name ?
[03:50] <gyaresu> sree: change your nick then try again.
[03:50] <AndrewB> sree: /nick newNick   /msg nickserv register [pass]
[03:50] <FuzzyTheBear> elpargo  :  thank you  :)
[03:50] <heathen> people register tjeir nics?
[03:50] <posingaspopular> sree: you need to /msg NickServ
[03:50] <jramsey> how do i install the latest kernel headers compatible with my version of ubuntu?
[03:51] <cafuego_> heathen: of course, can't have some kid somewhere pretending to be me.
[03:51] <arrenlex> geeksauce: http://arrenlex.ls.la/smb.conf <-- Like that. Best answer I can give you. xD Sorry. The name in square brackets, like [AlexD] , is the share name. guest ok=yes is important for each one. security = SHARE is important in global -- that's the cornerstone for not having to enter a password. As for the rest, swat says it works, and it does.
[03:51] <AndrewB> scienceboy: try going into a terminal and typing   'gnuchess'
[03:51] <aSt3raL_> sree: are you using a windows driver with ndiswrapper or a linux driver?
[03:51] <heathen> lol...  well, since heathen was taken before me,,,  guess im that kid
[03:51] <arrenlex> !headers | jramsey
[03:51] <ubotu> jramsey: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[03:51] <jramsey> arrenlex, ty
[03:51] <jeff22> how do I connect to the internet without a gnome-ppp package (I can't find one)
[03:51] <cafuego_> heathen: it emans that when the real heathen comes back online, they might disconnect you and take the nick
[03:52] <scienceboy> andrewb: ok, i will try
[03:52] <scienceboy> brb
[03:52] <dewey> jeff22,  install kppp
[03:52] <geeksauce> arrenlex, hmm, do you think it could be a setting on the windows computer trying to access my shares?
[03:52] <heathen> been using it for a while,,, not too worried
[03:52] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Does that same computer access other Windows computers' shares without problems?
[03:52] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Have you restarted samba since changing the conf?
[03:52] <jeff22> dewey kppp isn't available on the ubuntu disk either
[03:53] <cafuego_> heathen: it's been unused for 2 years and a bit, i expect you could probably get a staff member to delete the registration for you, so you cna register it
[03:53] <geeksauce> arrenlex, good question... let me see
[03:53] <heathen> caf,  how would i go about that?
[03:54] <cafuego_> heathen: check the www.freenode.net site for docs and faq :-)
[03:54] <heathen> thx
[03:54] <Celldweller> alaright i had to reformat my laptop its a dell latitude 510, and now i can't get the dadgum onboard wifi card to get working again
[03:54] <jramsey> arrenlex, i keep getting an error when i try installing any pkg; i just updated to dapper: error is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7299/
[03:54] <Ironman273> Is the root password different than my password?
[03:54] <Celldweller> can anayone help lol
[03:54] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Yes, in that there isn't one.
[03:55] <posingaspopular> Ironman273: i dont think so
[03:55] <posingaspopular> what are you trying to do
[03:55] <geeksauce> arrenlex, yes it can view other windows shares on other windows computers with no auth.  there is a setting on the serving xp boxes called "simple file sharing" that is enabled, though.  i don't know how to set that in linux, though
[03:55] <Ironman273> So if I type "su" and it asks for my root password it should be nothing?
[03:55] <Kaline> What Cafuego said, there is no password for root by default.
[03:55] <arrenlex> jramsey: And what happens if you type no and press enter?
[03:55] <cafuego_> Ironman273: You should type 'sudo -s' instead of 'su' and enter your own password.
[03:55] <Celldweller> if you just installed ubuntu it's your own password
[03:55] <Kaline> Ironman273: Use 'sudo -s'.
[03:55] <Celldweller> installed it (again)
[03:55] <Celldweller> lol
[03:56] <mptech> can the ubuntu/xubuntu installer non-destructively resize FAT32 partitions?
[03:56] <Kaline> irssi is nice. :E
[03:56] <posingaspopular> sudo passwd changes the password too
[03:56] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Ubuntu uses sudo and has the root account disabled by default, for security reasons.
[03:56] <Ironman273> cafuego: I'm trying to install java.  The instructions say to use su. You learn something new
[03:56] <Ironman273> :)
[03:56] <cafuego_> Ironman273: What instructions?
[03:56] <arrenlex> geeksauce: And you have restarted samba since changing the conf?
[03:56] <Celldweller> lol can someone remind me how to get my broadcom 43xx blah blah to work again? =)
[03:56] <hairulfr> Ironman273: www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:57] <jessie^^> i have an hp pavillion dv6245us notebook. I don't need anything special to tell the fan to run, do I?
[03:57] <Ironman273> cafuego_: The instructions on the java website
[03:57] <cafuego_> Ironman273: You shouldn't need any odd instructions at all, there are ubuntu packages.
[03:57] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i haven't changed the samba config at all... i'll double-check but everything seems to be in order
[03:57] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Don't suse those, please :-)
[03:57] <Ironman273> cafuego_: from the sfotware packages?
[03:57] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Pastebin your /etc/samba/smb.conf for me, I want to look through it.
[03:57] <hairulfr> Ironman273: Don't use those,
[03:57] <Ironman273> Oops
[03:57] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Yeah, java is prepackaged (with plugin and everything)
[03:57] <cafuego_> unless you're on non-x86 hardware
[03:58] <geeksauce> arrenlex, thanks man, i appreciate it.  hang on i'll pastebin that for you
[03:58] <Ironman273> cafuego_: I have to get used to this software package thing.  I'm used to downloading everything :S
[03:58] <sgtmattbaker>  I have an extended partition I just created.  The logical partitions that are inside of it seem to be mounted by default as usbdisk's.. how do I automount them?
[03:58] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Make sure the 'multiverse' repository is enabled, then simply 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre'
[03:58] <Pelo> can someone tell me how to fix this error msg each time i try to use mplayer  ? : "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device"
[03:59] <Celldweller> please help me with the onboard chipset lol
[03:59] <sgtmattbaker> could someone start a private conversation to tell me how to automount my new partitions
[03:59] <Ironman273> cafuego_: OK, but I find the "Add/Remove Application" thing easier...  give a n00b a break ;)
[03:59] <Celldweller> i've been searching for hours
[03:59] <jramsey> arrenlex, i get this: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/369869
[03:59] <cafuego_> Pelo: Fix the config file or run 'mplayer -vo xv <file>'
[03:59] <Pelo> Celldweller,  try looking it up in the forum
[03:59] <Celldweller> and whataever i did athe first time i forgot
[03:59] <kitche> Pelo: for me that message goes away if I add my user to the video group
[03:59] <Celldweller> i did
[03:59] <Celldweller> it's notvery cleara
[03:59] <cafuego_> Ironman273: synaptic will be fine too :-)
[03:59] <arrenlex> jramsey: try apt-get remove --purge j2sdk1.4-doc
[04:00] <cafuego_> Ironman273: cli is just a tad quicker, once you know the package names
[04:00] <sgtmattbaker>  I have an extended partition I just created.  The logical partitions that are inside of it seem to be mounted by default as usbdisk's.. how do I automount them?
[04:00] <geeksauce> arrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7300/
[04:00] <kalikiana> gyaresu, That program you posted is for MS Word only. :/
[04:00] <Ironman273> cafuego_: There's a Java 5.0 plugin and a Java 1.4 plugin for firefox.  Should 5.0 plugin be enough?
[04:00] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Yup.
[04:00] <AndrewB> !fstab | sgtmattbaker
[04:01] <ubotu> sgtmattbaker: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:01] <jramsey> arrenlex, just remove it?? nothing else after that?
[04:01] <Ironman273> cafuego_: BTW, the cli gave me an error
[04:01] <Pelo> cafuego,  the config file is mty , what do you suggest I put it
[04:01] <gyaresu> kalikiana: I've just been messing around with it under wine. Can't find where it installs though.
[04:02] <rswitzer> can someone help me configure multiple soundcards?
[04:02] <arrenlex> jramsey: Did it remove successfully?
[04:02] <Ironman273> cafuego_: but synaptic seems to be working fine
[04:02] <jramsey> arrenlex, yep
[04:02] <arrenlex> jramsey: Then you're set.
[04:02] <arrenlex> jramsey: Unless you actually need java docs.
[04:02] <jramsey> arrenlex, ok txs ... nah i dont really need them i just need synaptic to run when i want to add pkgs
[04:03] <AndrewB> rswitzer: checkout http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Multisounds/
[04:03] <Ironman273> Are there any predefined folders for documents, music, photos, etc?  (I know, it's probably a typical Windows question)
[04:03] <rswitzer> thanks
[04:03] <contents> Could someone help me rename a partition? I renamed it in fstab, but the desktop still shows the old name.
[04:03] <AndrewB> rswitzer: never done it tho ;)
[04:03] <prem> higrp,could any 1 help me??
[04:03] <`Z`> poy
[04:03] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Nope, just create your own
[04:04] <Ironman273> cafuego_: In my home directory?
[04:04] <cafuego_> Ironman273: I prefer to recreate the Mac OS folders - yes.
[04:04] <AndrewB> prem: ask your question.
[04:04] <arrenlex> geeksauce: What name d'you want for this machine? I can't even find one in the conf.
[04:04] <Ironman273> cafuego_: Not familiar with Mac OS
[04:04] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Documents Pictures Movies
[04:04] <Regner> is there any good tutorials/walkthroughs for setting up samba for a home NAS ?
[04:05] <geeksauce> the xbox recognizes it as john_desktop i think
[04:05] <AndrewB> cafuego_: whats up? I am semi familure with MacOS
[04:05] <prem> AndrewB,my volume control crashed!!
[04:05] <cafuego_> I also use Library to hold lihks to config directories and fonts etc
[04:05] <xtknight> w000000t...any questions?
[04:05] <geeksauce> arrenlex, the xbox recognizes it as john_desktop i think
[04:05] <Ironman273> cafuego: Java is saying it's having dependency problems... :-S
[04:05] <AndrewB> prem: sudo alsamixer
[04:05] <prem> AndrewB,http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411346 this might help u
[04:05] <JoseStefan> My grub meny doesn't show the "grub version" line at the top, is that normal? i think i messed it up
[04:05] <AndrewB> oh
[04:05] <JoseStefan> menu*
[04:05] <xtknight> !gwos
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gwos - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <cafuego_> Ironman273: That probaly means the universe and multiverse repositories are missing
[04:06] <Pelo> JoseStefan,  #grub
[04:06] <chipbuddy> so i just recently got a hard drive partition recognized and mounted with ubuntu, but i can't change permissions on it. sudo chmod 777 music doesn't change anything
[04:06] <chipbuddy> what do i do?
[04:06] <zpertee> how do I Enable universe repositories?  Help is much appreciated
[04:06] <AndrewB> prem: ok....no clue sorry to say.
[04:06] <Ironman273> cafuego: I went back to synaptic and it says I have 2 broken packages in my system.  How do I fix them?
[04:06] <cafuego_> chipbuddy: is it a FAT32 or NTFS partition?
[04:06] <chipbuddy> fat32
[04:06] <xtknight> chipbuddy: perhaps you need to mount the partition with a umask of 022
[04:06] <Pelo> chipbuddy, 755
[04:06] <xtknight> 777-755=022 umask
[04:07] <mptech> can the ubuntu/xubuntu installer non-destructively resize FAT32 partitions?
[04:07] <arrenlex> geeksauce: This box sharing a printer?
[04:07] <chipbuddy> in fstab when i'm mounting it?
[04:07] <xtknight> chipbuddy: yes in options for that fstab line
[04:07] <AndrewB> zpertee: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[04:07] <prem> AndrewB,dude i could open volume panel with i command u just gave me...how to change sound settings??
[04:07] <Regner> what is the name of the program that will test the apt mirrors and find the fastest one for you ?
[04:07] <chipbuddy> thansk
[04:07] <chipbuddy> thanks
[04:07] <AndrewB> prem: it is als ncurses based. arrow keys etc.
[04:07] <geeksauce> arrenlex, nope
[04:07] <cafuego_> chipbuddy: fat32 doesn't support file permissions (at all) so you need to set it at boot time via fstab.
[04:07] <chipbuddy> ah... so everyone on my system can do anything to the fat partition?
[04:08] <prem> AndrewB,my master volume is mute
[04:08] <Ironman273> cafuego: It said to search with the term "broken" and when I did it came up with "Synaptic Package Manager" and "Klean Sweep" (which is not installed)
[04:08] <cafuego_> chipbuddy: Not if you add a uid=<your uid> option
[04:08] <xtknight> chipbuddy: yea as long as windows isn't governing the partition in any way.  windows loses control of it when you access the partition from antoher OS.  that parition is not encrypted
[04:08] <herpez> hi, im having some troubles installing beryl on an ati radeon x700, it crashes when i load beryl manager, where can i get help
[04:08] <cafuego_> chipbuddy: use uid/gid/umask to determine ownership and permissions
[04:08] <AndrewB> prem: a sec..
[04:08] <AndrewB> prem: hit M
[04:08] <AndrewB> try that
[04:09] <cafuego_> Ironman273: urrmmm...
[04:09] <BelialMkII> whats the package name for sshd in ubuntu
[04:09] <cafuego_> BelialMkII: openssh-server
[04:09] <AndrewB> BelialMkII: ssh-server
[04:09] <BelialMkII> thanks
[04:09] <AndrewB> or that ;)
[04:09] <Ironman273> cafuego: Great.  I broke Ubuntu in less than 24 hours
[04:09] <cafuego_> Ironman273: <hehe>
[04:09] <AndrewB> Ironman273: one way to learn.
[04:09] <jessie^^> i have an hp pavillion dv6245us notebook. I don't need anything special to tell the fan to run, do I?
[04:09] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Did you enable multiverse and universe in synaptic?
[04:09] <xtknight> i break ubuntu every 24 hours
[04:09] <tehxed> How the hell do I apply a theme in Beryl?
[04:09] <Ironman273> cafuego: Yes
[04:10] <Regner> BelialMkII: openssh-server
[04:10] <xtknight> tehxed: emerald theme manager
[04:10] <eternalswd> anyone experienced with writing xevent polling functionality in c++?
[04:10] <tehxed> yeah, i'm in there
[04:10] <tehxed> now i want to apply one
[04:10] <tehxed> how?!
[04:10] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Ok, open a terminal and run 'sudo apt-get update' (make sure synaptic is not running)
[04:10] <xtknight> tehxed: click one
[04:10] <vox754> mptech, it should be safe to resize the partition. You should defragment the drive first.
[04:10] <tehxed> xtknight, i did
[04:10] <tehxed> nothing happens
[04:10] <AndrewB> eternalswd: try in ##c++
[04:10] <xtknight> tehxed: maybe there's an issue with yor beryl.  mine themes it when i simply click one of the themes inthe list
[04:10] <Ironman273> cafuego: it fetched 3Bytes
[04:10] <tehxed> xtknight, let me restart
[04:11] <cafuego_> Ironman273: That will update the lists of available packages.
[04:11] <xtknight> tehxed: just restart your wm maybe? (i.e. beryl-manager)..
[04:11] <Ironman273> cafuego: It still lists the same 2 packages under "broken"
[04:11] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Ok, now run 'sudo apt-get -f install'  - that SHOULD fetch the missing package(s) that is/are causing java to be broken.
[04:11] <xtknight> jessie^^: no, but you can use a special 'governor' to govern fan/cpu frequency scaling
[04:12] <angasule> !burn
[04:12] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:12] <prem> AndrewB,any way to get back the default volume manager?
[04:12] <xtknight> jessie^^: other than that the fan is generally on full speed
[04:12] <armenb> hi
[04:12] <Ironman273> cafuego: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[04:12] <n3rrd> Would anyone happen to know why a burnt Ubuntu install disc will pass the integrity check on one computer, but fail on another?  It passes on a more modern computer, but fails on an IBM T21.
[04:12] <AndrewB> prem: I ain't sure I am sorry to say..
[04:12] <armenb> i'm having a stupid problem with ubuntu.
[04:12] <xtknight> armenb: elaborate ;)
[04:12] <Ironman273> cafuego: But Java is installed :-/
[04:12] <AndrewB> !welcome | armenb
[04:12] <ubotu> armenb: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[04:12] <xtknight> n3rrd: memory errors on the other pc, or disk drive issues
[04:12] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Okay, try this
[04:12] <cafuego_> Ironman273: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:12] <xtknight> n3rrd: i recommend using the memtest on ubuntu cd
[04:13] <arrenlex> geeksauce: sudo mv /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.bak
[04:13] <n3rrd> xtknight:  I ran it for a bit, without any errors.  Knoppix boots and runs fine, and Slack doesn't seem to have any issues.
[04:13] <arrenlex> geeksauce: sudo wget http://arrenlex.ls.la/johnsmb.conf -O/etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:13] <Ironman273> cafuego: OK.  It immediately went back to the command line.  BTW what dies sudo stand for?
[04:13] <wisea> hey guys, i'm having a problem accessing some files inside music programs... i mounted my ntfs hdd and i can see the files in terminal... but not in any of my media programs (xmms or rhythembox)
[04:13] <gradin> i've got a problem...
[04:13] <armenb> sure. modules specified in /etc/modules are not loaded upon bootup.
[04:13] <Ironman273> *dies=does
[04:13] <armenb> can you suggest a way i can debug the situation?
[04:13] <n3rrd> xtknight: WinXP also installed without problems.
[04:13] <xtknight> n3rrd: it could be anything from the disc media, to the disk drive's tolerance of disk-read errors, to your motherboard's controller to an internal component like memory or the cpu
[04:13] <arrenlex> geeksauce: sudo /etc/init.d/samba force-reload
[04:13] <AndrewB> wisea: seems like a permissions error.
[04:14] <herpez> need help config beryl on radeon x700, anyone?
[04:14] <pablo_> how can i do for configure my sound card with 2 outs?
[04:14] <cafuego_> Ironman273: sudo executes commands as root user
[04:14] <gradin> my backup server says unable to access dpkg status area: read-only filesystem when i try to run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:14] <n3rrd> xtknight:  Yeah... frusturating.  I'll try another burner, I suppose.
[04:14] <wisea> AndrewB: i set fstab to user
[04:14] <armenb> i'm running ubuntu dapper.
[04:14] <gradin> what do i do to fix it?
[04:14] <xtknight> armenb: i believe you need to put them in the 'modules' under initramfs.  i dont think /etc/modules is used by ubutnu
[04:14] <Ironman273> cafuego: But does it stand for something?
[04:14] <wisea> do i have to change anything else?
[04:14] <xtknight> n3rrd: burn at 1x
[04:14] <cafuego_> Ironman273:  Super User DO
[04:14] <AndrewB> wisea: ok not sure..
[04:14] <Ironman273> cafuego: DO as in to do or doing something?
[04:14] <n3rrd> xtknight: Alright, I'll try burning slower.  I'm also redownloading the ISO from another source, just incase.
[04:14] <wisea> AndrewB: /dev/hdd1       /media/hdd      auto    user,rw 0       0
[04:14] <prem> could anyone help??how to get back volume manager??
[04:14] <armenb> xtknight - i don't think i'm using initrd...
[04:14] <mptech> what the equivalent of debian unstable in ubuntu?
[04:15] <cafuego_> Ironman273: Ok, 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin'
[04:15] <arrenlex> geeksauce: If this works, you can try making the server's name longer, but I couldn't remember how many characters the name was limited to so I went with the safe thing and made < 8.
[04:15] <mptech> *what's
[04:15] <xtknight> armenb: sorry, actually i think /etc/modules IS used by ubuntu.
[04:15] <xtknight> armenb: i was thinking of modules.conf which lists modules and parameters
[04:15] <Ironman273> cafuego: Java installed OK, even with the errors it gave me
[04:15] <cafuego_> Ironman273: If that spits out errors, can you put them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?
[04:15] <armenb> xtknight - well if it is, for some reason, ubuntu isn't parsing it correctly/at all.
[04:15] <xtknight> armenb: youre not using initrd?
[04:15] <pablo_> how can i do for configure my sound card with two outs?
[04:15] <cafuego_> that's peculiar
[04:15] <xtknight> n3rrd: um do an md5 check?
[04:15] <armenb> er, not afaik...how do i check if i am again?
[04:15] <gradin> mptech: i think your refering to the unstable respoistorys... try /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:15] <Ironman273> cafuego: even though it's installed already?
[04:15] <xtknight> armenb: pastebin it
[04:15] <pablo_> 'cause i have four speakers
[04:15] <nweaver916> anyone here who can help with torrent problems? #Azureus-support is dead :(
[04:16] <armenb> it's been awhile since i've done linux sysadmin-type stuff, quite obviously...
[04:16] <armenb> pastebin what?
[04:16] <mptech> gradin, I am referring to installing from unstable repositories
[04:16] <xtknight> !pastebin | armenb
[04:16] <ubotu> armenb: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:16] <xtknight> armenb: your /etc/modules
[04:16] <cafuego_> Ironman273: No, not if it's already installed. It's just weird it says it has broken packages.
[04:16] <cafuego_> coffee-mug: go fill yourself, then come back.
[04:16] <gradin> mptech: yep then you want to remove the # infront of the repositorys marked unsable in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:17] <chipbuddy> exit
[04:17] <prem> could anyone help??how to get back volume manager??
[04:17] <Ironman273> cafuego: Well I'm about to run Azureus, so that'll tell me if the runtimes are installed but the browser plugin is definitely working
[04:17] <xtknight> prem: back to your gnome panel?
[04:17] <gradin> mptech: then do a sudo apt-get update
[04:17] <armenb> xtknight - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7302/
[04:17] <cafuego_> Ironman273: the plugin depends on the runtime, so it should be
[04:17] <mptech> gradin, I would like to know if it's possible to do it before the install
[04:17] <xtknight> prem: first, do you have any alsa devices?  'sudo asoundconf list' in the console, pastebin it please
[04:17] <geeksauce> arrenlex, now the share doesn't even show up on other machines :(
[04:17] <prem> xtknight,ye
[04:17] <arrenlex> geeksauce: That's even the opposite of helpful! :(
[04:17] <gradin> mptech: you mean from a networked install?
[04:17] <xtknight> armenb: how are you deducing that those modules have not been laoded?
[04:17] <armenb> the most important thing that is not being loaded is tulip, which drives my network card :-P
[04:18] <roho> !beryl
[04:18] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:18] <armenb> xtknight - lsmod|grep <foo>
[04:18] <xtknight> prem: put 'gnome-volume-manager --sm-disable' in your session for Startup apps
[04:18] <Quintoxis> is there a way when installing ubuntu to rather than have a GUI have a text based install that shows you whats happening? it keeps jamming for me when installing and i would like to find out when & why
[04:18] <gradin> my backup server says unable to access dpkg status area: read-only filesystem when i try to run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:18] <gradin> what do i need to do to fix it?
[04:18] <xtknight> armenb: interesting...... what happens if you type 'sudo modprobe tulip'  and errors printed to dmesg?
[04:18] <gradin> i was just trying to install kde
[04:18] <arrenlex> geeksauce: And what happens if you type \\JOHNDSKP\ in Windows Explorer?
[04:19] <JoseStefan> My grub menu doesn't show the "grub version" line at the top, is that normal? i think i messed it up
[04:19] <xtknight> gradin: i dont know.  for some reason you root file system is read only.  did you use the sysrq key or sometihng?  i'm not sure how that would happen otherwise
[04:19] <armenb> xtknight - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7303/
[04:19] <mar2686> hi
[04:19] <Ironman273> cafuego: everything is working fine.  I've read that Brasero is a good burning software but it's not in the software packages.  Do I install that from their website?
[04:19] <gradin> xtknight: not to my knowledge
[04:19] <geeksauce> arrenlex, the folder i had shared is no longer shared (when i right-click and click share folder it is set to "do not share")
[04:19] <prem> xtKnight:http://paste.biz/paste-711.html
[04:20] <xtknight> armenb: i dont see anything odd
[04:20] <prem> xtKnight: http://paste.biz/paste-711.html
[04:20] <armenb> the module loads fine. it just looks like its not getting loaded.
[04:20] <gradin> xtknight: how can i fix it?
[04:20] <xtknight> armenb: is tulip blacklisted anywhere?
[04:20] <armenb> yeah, exactly, that's my stupid problem :-P
[04:20] <arrenlex> geeksauce: ?? where is this?
[04:20] <cafuego_> Ironman273: You don't really need any burning software for Ubuntu, just insert a CD, drag stuff to the icon and click 'burn' :-)
[04:20] <armenb> "blacklisted"?
[04:20] <armenb> you can blacklist modules?
[04:20] <geeksauce> nautilus
[04:20] <xtknight> prem: so did you try gnome-volumne-manager in startup (see above) and restart gnome?
[04:20] <lemoniceblock> Hi all, I'm trying to compile ndiswrapper and when I am following the community docs
[04:20] <wisea> hey anybody that can help me... I just did a fresh install of xubuntu 6.10... its great, exept for that i cant access any of my media on my ntfs hdd
[04:20] <xtknight> armenb: yes, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*
[04:21] <wisea> i can access files with the terminal, but not within applications
[04:21] <Ironman273> cafuego: Thanks, that helps!  Off to search for more software then...
[04:21] <xtknight> wisea: mount the partition with a umask of 022 in fstab
[04:21] <cafuego_> Ironman273: :-)
[04:21] <lemoniceblock> When I type sudo make uinstall, it says that it cannot remove something
[04:21] <prem> ok
[04:21] <lemoniceblock> I've repeated that step a few times now, and it still has that error, is this normal?
[04:21] <xtknight> wisea: umask means user mask.  it is an octal number, 777-nnn=your umask.  nnn is traditional permissions style (755 in this case)
[04:21] <armenb> xtknight - according to those files, no. and something else there claims to be blacklisted and "replaced by tulip"
[04:21] <geeksauce> arrenlex, in nautilus
[04:22] <xtknight> armenb: hm which module would that be?
[04:22] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Ah...
[04:22] <wisea> xtknight: okay, where do i add that in fstab?  heres my entry right now...  /dev/hdd1       /media/hdd      auto    user,rw 0       0
[04:22] <xtknight> gradin: um reboot?
[04:22] <bird603568> when i do a mount it says "mount: not a directory"
[04:22] <armenb> xtknight - either way, is there an easy way to debug this situation?
[04:22] <arrenlex> geeksauce, okay, try this version:
[04:22] <xtknight> gradin: first check 'df -h' pastebin that please
[04:22] <arrenlex> geeksauce: sudo wget http://arrenlex.ls.la/johnsmb.conf -O/etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:22] <gradin> xtknight: well thats intresting just rebooted and it said my root filesystem failed a fsck and that i need to run it manually
[04:22] <arrenlex> geeksauce: sudo /etc/init.d/samba force-reload
[04:22] <bird603568> and im trying to mount it to /mnt/cdrom and its a dir because i made it
[04:22] <DigitalNinja> Is there a way to network boot an install? I've got a 1U server without a CD drive.
[04:22] <xtknight> gradin: the error may be irrecoverable if you reboot now.  maybe youre out of disk space
[04:22] <armenb> xtknight - the module that was blacklisted is de4x5
[04:22] <armenb> i have no idea what its for.
[04:22] <xtknight> wisea:  /dev/hdd1       /media/hdd      auto    user,rw,umask=0022 0       0
[04:23] <wisea> thanks xtknight  :)
[04:23] <vox754> lemoniceblock, sorry that my guide wasn't good enough. Try "locate ndiswrapper" and removing every file you find with that name.
[04:23] <xtknight> gradin: well let it go fsck
[04:23] <prem> xtknight:restarted
[04:23] <lemoniceblock> vox754: hehe, don't say that~ at least it's something for me to work with
[04:23] <xtknight> armenb: umm sorry i really dont know.  why isn't ubuntu loading tulip automatically anyway?
[04:23] <xtknight> prem: ok do you see volume manager in gnome panel now?
[04:24] <lemoniceblock> vox754: at that stage, should I be trying to remove things though?
[04:24] <prem> xtknight: no
[04:24] <armenb> xtknight - i have no idea! i don't even know how to debug this situation.
[04:24] <wisea> xtknight: thanks, it works now
[04:24] <armenb> it would be really swell if i could get a bootlog somewhere
[04:24] <xtknight> prem: right click empty spot on top of gnome panel, goto add to panel, and select volume control
[04:24] <nandovieira> hi... I'm trying to install Ubuntu. But when I run install, a message saying something about a fat32 error stops the installation... Any command I can run on windows to fix this errors?
[04:24] <xtknight> armenb: dmesg is essentially a bootlog (kernel log actually)
[04:24] <AndrewB> nandovieira: try a defrag on the partition.
[04:24] <xtknight> armenb: i really don't know how to fix it nor how to debug it in this case
[04:24] <Ironman273> To get into themeing, you have to find themes for Gnome, not Ubuntu, correct?
[04:25] <armenb> yeah, kernel log is useless for stuff like this though.
[04:25] <xtknight> Ironman273: not sure what you mean
[04:25] <AndrewB> Ironman273: yes.
[04:25] <xtknight> Ironhand: what is an Ubuntu theme?
[04:25] <bird603568> anyone?
[04:25] <nandovieira> AndrewB: Ok... I'll try it!
[04:25] <xtknight> Ironman273: ^
[04:25] <geeksauce> arrenlex, still not showing up, still not showing as a shared folder
[04:25] <armenb> its the rc scripts (or whatever modern distros call them these days) that actually do module loading
[04:25] <vox754> lemoniceblock, yep. I think I tried that before and it worked. You know, with the kernel update my wireless stopped working. I recompiled and I'm happy as a penguin again.
[04:25] <xtknight> armenb: right, i dont know.  maybe pipe those to output or something
[04:25] <prem> xtknight: thankks mann tht was simple
[04:25] <armenb> how do i do that? :-P
[04:25] <xtknight> armenb: or put sudo modprobe tulip in one of them
[04:25] <Ironman273> xtknight: Exactly, that's what I figured.  The themes are for Gnome not Ubuntu.   Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[04:27] <xtknight> bird603568: i noticed.  do yourself a favor
[04:27] <armenb> how do i prevent it from doing a graphical boot?
[04:27] <Ironman273> xtknight: right.  Thanks for confusing the heck out of me now :-P  So to change the way Ubuntu looks, what should I search for?
[04:27] <xtknight> armenb: hmm, remove usplash?  this may be helpful:
[04:27] <AndrewB> bird603568: that is not language for a GNU/Linux help channel. Take yourself somewhere else.
[04:27] <xtknight> !usplash | armenb
[04:27] <armenb> maybe i can see something interesting as it whizzes uselessly past my screen...
[04:27] <ubotu> armenb: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[04:27] <xtknight> Ironman273: no problem, im' known for doing that :D
[04:27] <xtknight> Ironman273: umm well what do you want to change?  what aspect of your desktop?
[04:27] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i checked the config file you told me to use... it references dhcp.conf  ...i'm not sure what this file is, bit i know i have DHCP disabled on my router. all IP's are manually assigned.
[04:27] <vox754> lemoniceblock, I think what has the name "ndiswrapper" on it. Those modules .ko or .so, and config files under "/etc". You can't break your system, don't worry too much.
[04:27] <`Matir> I'm having trouble with a USB hard drive enclosure... it gives me all sorts of errors, shown here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7304/
[04:28] <armenb> by the way, is "dapper" considered old these days?
[04:28] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Hmmmmm.
[04:28] <wisea> dag... ubuntu doesn't come with mp3 support?
[04:28] <wisea> weird
[04:28] <AndrewB> wisea: legal reasons.
[04:28] <Ironman273> xtknight: Well, in Windows terms something like a Windowblinds theme.  Changes the appearance of, well, the windows and such.
[04:28] <armenb> is fiesty the distro after dapper, and is it reasonably stable?
[04:28] <xtknight> `Matir: looks like hard disk problems.  try disabling dma on it to debug?
[04:28] <AndrewB> armenb: it is stil in beta.. try at own risk.
[04:28] <lemoniceblock> vox754: alright, thanx ^^
[04:28] <geeksauce> arrenlex, "cat: /var/log/samba/samba.log: No such file or directory"
[04:28] <eternalswd> no, fiesty is not stable yet
[04:28] <gradin> xtknight: buffer i/o error on device dm-0 logical block 20 blocks and counting
[04:28] <wisea> AndrewB: where should i get the codec?
[04:28] <prem> xtknight: nautilus is crashing frequently..i have to always do a start in recovery mode..any ideas??
[04:28] <wisea> do they have it in add/remove?
[04:28] <AndrewB> wisea: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:28] <eternalswd> wisea, it depends on what player you are using
[04:29] <arrenlex> geeksauce: I give up. Restore your samba from /etc/samba/smb.conf.bak and good luck getting it to work. = / Sorry.
[04:29] <xtknight> Ironman273: metacity (for window borders), and gnome (or gtk) themes for buttons and widgets.  put them in /usr/share to make them user-independent.  user themes are stored in ~/.themes/
[04:29] <KG4KBU> hi all
[04:29] <KG4KBU> anyone in here
[04:29] <`Matir> xtknight, it's USB so hdparm can't turn off DMA
[04:29] <xtknight> prem: hm not relaly.  mine used to do that a lot the only way i solved it was to reinstall :(
[04:29] <geeksauce> arrenlex, what is the dhcp.conf file for?
[04:29] <AndrewB> KG4KBU: yeah 927 are in here ;)
[04:29] <xtknight> `Matir: hmm.  youre right.  usb prolly doesn't even have dma righT?
[04:29] <Ironman273> xtknight: Thx.  Now I get it (I think)
[04:29] <xtknight> gradin: well good luck
[04:29] <KG4KBU> kewl
[04:29] <KG4KBU> what is this room all about
[04:29] <KG4KBU> ??
[04:30] <xtknight> `Matir: try a fsck on the partition?
[04:30] <xtknight> !welcome | KG4KBU
[04:30] <ubotu> KG4KBU: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.
[04:30] <gradin> xtknight: does that mean my drive is crashing?
[04:30] <`Matir> xtknight, it can't even read the partition table
[04:30] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Dunno. I use dhcp myself, but that file doesn't exist on my system. It's just one of those lines that the magical swat put in it.
[04:30] <`Matir> KG4KBU, ham?
[04:30] <Yggdrasil> kg4kbu
[04:30] <Yggdrasil> u ham ?
[04:30] <xtknight> gradin: no.  it just means the filesystem table may be corrupted, not necessarily anything more
[04:30] <KG4KBU> im looking for a chat for singles or something
[04:30] <KG4KBU> yeah
[04:30] <KG4KBU> ham
[04:30] <Yggdrasil> join #HAMRADIO
[04:30] <KG4KBU> a young ham
[04:30] <xtknight> `Matir: do you want anything on the usb disk?
[04:30] <KG4KBU> hehe
[04:30] <Yggdrasil> OK BBL
[04:30] <gradin> xtknight: right then so reinstall?
[04:30] <Turgon> Is there a way to change Ubuntu's sensibility to the scrolling of the mouse's wheel? Thanks.
[04:30] <xtknight> `Matir: i mean, would you like to just wipe it all?
[04:31] <xtknight> gradin: naw let fsck go
[04:31] <AndrewB> Turgon: yeah. Preferneces -> Mouse.
[04:31] <`Matir> xtknight, I already tried, fdisk throws errors
[04:31] <KG4KBU> but does anyone have a good room to find a woman
[04:31] <geeksauce> arrenlex, oh ok.  should it be set to "read-only=yes"?
[04:31] <KG4KBU> like a singles room
[04:31] <xtknight> KG4KBU: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:31] <AndrewB> KG4KBU: freenode is not here for that purpose please read http://freenode.net/index.shtml
[04:31] <eternalswd> probably not on freenode :p
[04:31] <shatrat> KG4KBU, I think all linux channels are inherently singles rooms
[04:32] <arrenlex> geeksauce: If you don't want it written to, yeah.
[04:32] <KG4KBU> alright
[04:32] <xtknight> `Matir: hmm.  well what about wiping the mbr manually?
[04:32] <arrenlex> shatrat: Hey! I resemble that remark! >=|
[04:32] <KG4KBU> dalnet or something
[04:32] <KG4KBU> i dunno
[04:32] <KG4KBU> im new to irc
[04:32] <Turgon> AndrewB : thanks but I don't have that option (I use Edgy)
[04:32] <tehxed> anyone know why themes won't load when i click on them in Emerald theme manager?!?
[04:32] <xtknight> `Matir: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/blkdevice count=1 bs=512
[04:32] <AndrewB> Turgon: should have it somewhere still..
[04:32] <xtknight> `Matir: only do that on your usb disk! :0
[04:33] <xtknight> tehxed: #beryl
[04:33] <tehxed> thanks
[04:33] <`Matir> xtknight, yeah
[04:33] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i ask because you have writeable set to no and read-only set to no as well
[04:33] <Hatty_> does anyone know why i wouldnt be able to execute a file (it says its not found) even though its in the current directory. I can still run cat and file and stuff on it, but it won't execute (yes it is +x)
[04:33] <armenb> hmm
[04:33] <armenb> is udev used for network interfaces too?
[04:34] <burepe_> anyone get flash working in firefox? I installed it in flock and now it won't start so I am a little scared to mess up firefox
[04:34] <omeil> umm so linux can't write in ntfs?
[04:34] <xtknight> Hatty: file system 'user' parameter?  but there's probably something else
[04:34] <AndrewB> Hatty: sh ./script.sh?
[04:34] <burepe_> yeah
[04:34] <xtknight> omeil: writing support is experimental or limitd
[04:34] <AndrewB> omeil: it is dodgy
[04:34] <Hatty> AndrewB: Its an elf binary, from asm i wrote
[04:34] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Oh, it probably doesn't like that. But the version before didn't have a writable parameter at all.
[04:34] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Hold on...
[04:34] <AndrewB> !ntfs | omeil
[04:34] <ubotu> omeil: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:34] <xtknight> omeil:  but ntfs writing (stable but limited) is in kernel.  full and experimental support is available via ntfs-3g
[04:34] <omeil> oh ok
[04:35] <AndrewB> Hatty: just   ./script
[04:35] <xtknight> Hatty: type file <file-you-want-to-execute>
[04:35] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Aha. What happens if you run the testparm command with that file?
[04:35] <omeil> its just that i only got a 5gb parition for Ubuntu and not much can be done with that limited amount of space.
[04:35] <xtknight> burepe_: yes i have it working in firefox
[04:35] <Hatty> xtknight: mycat: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped
[04:35] <burepe_> how did you install it?
[04:35] <xtknight> Hatty: type "./mycat" at the terminal to execute it
[04:36] <Hatty> xtknight: bash: ./mycat: No such file or directory
[04:36] <Hatty> xtknight: its there, but it wont execute
[04:36] <xtknight> Hatty: `sudo chmod 777 mycat` to avoid silly things i guess
[04:36] <xtknight> Hatty: then try it
[04:36] <arrenlex> Hatty: chmod +x mycat
[04:36] <Hatty> xtknight: its +x
[04:36] <xtknight> he said +x didnt work either
[04:36] <omeil> can someone help me i am a noob source installer :) i want to install wine
[04:36] <xtknight> Hatty: chmod a+x ?
[04:36] <AndrewB> !wine | omeil
[04:36] <ubotu> omeil: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:36] <master5o1> i want to talk to a bot!
[04:36] <arrenlex> !hi | master5o1
[04:37] <ubotu> master5o1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:37] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i don't know anything about that command
[04:37] <Hatty> xtknight: just did 777, still wont
[04:37] <burepe_> !flash
[04:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:37] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:37] <xtknight> Hatty: type 'mount | grep /root/partition' and report the parameters used to mount the partition you're currently on
[04:37] <lemoniceblock> hmmn that's not working >.<""
[04:37] <arrenlex> geeksauce: It's a samba command to test the config file. Run it as "testparm <file>" for a specific file or just testparm for /etc/samba/smb.conf.
[04:37] <AndrewB> Hatty: output of ls -l ./mycat
[04:38] <Ironman273> xtknight: I got the themes and I got the icons.  What do I do with an "engine"?
[04:38] <Hatty> AndrewB: -rwxrwxrwx 1 hatty hatty 2411 2007-02-23 18:06 ./mycat
[04:38] <omeil> !wine
[04:38] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:38] <xtknight> Ironman273: engines must be installed as they are libraries
[04:38] <Hatty> xtknight: /dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[04:38] <Ironman273> xtknight: the whole cli thing, huh?
[04:39] <omeil> should i install wine using the source or should i download the package?
[04:39] <xtknight> Ironman273: usually you have to compile the engine and make install will put it in the proper location (if you configure with prefix=/usr). otherwise some sites have ubuntu pkgs you just install to get the engine working
[04:39] <armenb> xtknight - ooh. im getting somewhere.
[04:39] <xtknight> Hatty: fsck the partition
[04:39] <omeil> cause i already have the tared source . but im not sure how to install it that way
[04:39] <xtknight> armenb: eh?
[04:40] <armenb> i have my root on /dev/md0
[04:40] <Ironman273> xtknight: OK, thx.  That looks like it'll be for another time
[04:40] <geeksauce> arrenlex, wow all kinds of errors... i'll pastebin
[04:40] <armenb> that may be causing a problem
[04:40] <xtknight> armenb: raid/lvm right?
[04:40] <Hatty> xtknight: should i reboot and go into a livecd to do that or is it safe?
[04:40] <armenb> actually, no lvm, just raid
[04:40] <xtknight> Hatty: hm yeah reboot into a livecd.
[04:40] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Really? It must be because I don't use ubuntu, so the versions of samba are different.
[04:40] <Hatty> k
[04:40] <xtknight> Hatty: hey, see if it'll execute from the livecd maybe
[04:40] <armenb> i'm getting modprobe errors in the bootup screen when i turn off splash
[04:40] <Hatty> xtknight: alright
[04:41] <xtknight> Hatty: what happens if you do sudo ./mycat though?
[04:41] <geeksauce> arrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7305/
[04:41] <Jrabbit> Hello
[04:41] <xtknight> Hatty: also, that executable looks like it's dynamically linked.  try ldd ./mycat to list libraries
[04:41] <armenb> fucking linux console.
[04:41] <xtknight> !language
[04:41] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:41] <Jrabbit> Nautilus is erroring out.
[04:41] <Hatty> xtknight:sudo: unable to execute ./mycat: No such file or directory
[04:41] <armenb> sorry,
[04:41] <xtknight> just swear in your status window ; )
[04:41] <xtknight> Hatty: try ldd..
[04:41] <Hatty> xtknight: its linked to libc, i linked it
[04:42] <Hatty> xtknight: /usr/bin/ldd: line 117: ./mycat: No such file or directory
[04:42] <xtknight> Hatty: yeah go fsck it, it's messed
[04:42] <armenb> ok i essentially know what my problem is
[04:42] <Hatty> k
[04:42] <arrenlex> geeksauce: LOL XD
[04:42] <armenb> it's that my files are on a raid device
[04:42] <omeil> umm i have a problem. when i try to install wine from the add/remove it tells me Wine Windows EMulator cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)????
[04:42] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Well that would explain everything!
[04:42] <armenb> and the raid drives aren't mounted until later.
[04:42] <Jrabbit> Trying to do a dpkg fix, upgrade was interupted by XGL kill keystroke
[04:42] <armenb> which is silly of ubuntu.
[04:43] <xtknight> armenb: hmm but what would that have to do with tulip?
[04:43] <armenb> it's not tulip in particular
[04:43] <xtknight> omeil: uhh do you have a 64bit ubuntu?
[04:43] <geeksauce> arrenlex, you figure it out?
[04:43] <armenb> ubuntu isn't loading *ANY* of the modules in my /etc/modules
[04:43] <HowDoIResetTheGu> brb
[04:43] <omeil> no i don't
[04:43] <arrenlex> geeksauce: xDDD See something wrong here? params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file: <title>KDE Simple File Server</title>
[04:43] <armenb> and i think its not doing that because it can't find the modules
[04:43] <xtknight> omeil: what happens if you type 'sudo apt-get install wine' from the terminal?
[04:43] <armenb> because they haven't been mounted yet.
[04:43] <arrenlex> params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file: <NOFRAMES>
[04:43] <omeil> hmm haven't tried
[04:43] <xtknight> html is in your samba
[04:43] <omeil> one second
[04:43] <xtknight> lol
[04:44] <xtknight> armenb: ahhh
[04:44] <xtknight> armenb: i dont think they'd be that stupid though...hmmmmm
[04:44] <armenb> does anyone here know the name of the function that reads /etc/modules and tries to line-by-line modprobe the modules?
[04:44] <xtknight> it's probably an rc script
[04:44] <omeil> umm i have a problem. when i try to install wine from the add/remove it tells me Wine Windows EMulator cannot be installed on your computer type (i386)????
[04:44] <armenb> because if i can just stuff those commands in my rc.local that will probably work for me.
[04:44] <omeil> oops sorry lol
[04:44] <betatux> armenb, depmod -a ?
[04:44] <arrenlex> geeksauce: sudo wget http://pastebin.ca/raw/369917 -O/etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:44] <omeil> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:44] <omeil> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:44] <omeil> is only available from another source
[04:44] <omeil> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[04:45] <xtknight> omeil: type 'uname -a'
[04:45] <Jrabbit>  * Reloading GNOME Display Manager configuration...  * Changes will take effect when all current X sessions have ended.
[04:45] <arrenlex> geeksauce: then run testparm again
[04:45] <omeil> Linux omeil-desktop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:45] <geeksauce> arrenlex, how is there html in there? lol... i should have known something was funny when it opened in ff by default, lol
[04:45] <Jrabbit> How do I do this?
[04:45] <Jrabbit> Restart X?
[04:45] <AndrewB> Jrabbit: ctrl+alt+del
[04:45] <Jrabbit> Logout?
[04:45] <xtknight> omeil: do you have any extra repositories loaded?
[04:45] <TLP-CD> ...erm....how do i put a shortcut to my home folder on my desktop....
[04:45] <Jrabbit> thank you
[04:45] <omeil> yea
[04:46] <Xenguy> TLP-CD: launcher ?
[04:46] <TLP-CD> i cant get anywhere in xfce without it...
[04:46] <armenb> omeil - what version of ubuntu are you running?
[04:46] <Xenguy> TLP-CD: right-click etc.
[04:46] <Xenguy> TLP-CD: ahh
[04:46] <omeil> I loaded the extra repositories which let me install the Nvidia drivers. Ubuntu 6.10
[04:46] <TLP-CD> 6.10
[04:46] <xtknight> omeil: hmm those may be conflicting
[04:46] <Jrabbit> AndrewB: No luck
[04:46] <Xenguy> TLP-CD: latest version of xfce apparently has desktop icons, but older versions probably don't
[04:47] <xtknight> omeil: wait, extra official ubuntu repos or third party?
[04:47] <burepe_> xtknight: what method did you use to install flash. I followed the restricted formats directions but it did not work. THe other way is to do it though the browser which caused flock to not work for me before.
[04:47] <Xenguy> Xenguy: don't know if it's packaged in Ubu yet
[04:47] <armenb> what does depmod -a do?
[04:47] <Xenguy> heh
[04:47] <omeil> official
[04:47] <xtknight> burepe_: i downloaded flash off adobe's site and manually installed it
[04:47] <TLP-CD> ....meh gonna try updating then...if that doesnt solve the problem ill be back
[04:47] <omeil> err im not sure lol :D
[04:47] <armenb> the -a flag isn't described in the depmod man page
[04:47] <armenb> (betatux? :)
[04:47] <omeil> one sec lemme check
[04:47] <TLP-CD> ...btw i have no home shortcut whatsoever on gnome, kde, or xfce >.<
[04:47] <xtknight> omeil: dont know, im not sure whats up with that 'wine' thing.  maybe you have third party repos in sources.list
[04:48] <betatux> armenb, man depmod
[04:48] <omeil> xtknight
[04:48] <omeil> what if i try to install wine with source?
[04:48] <betatux> !depmod | armenb
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about depmod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <xtknight> omeil: good idea if you're up for it
[04:48] <omeil> already have the ar file :)
[04:48] <omeil> tar
[04:48] <xtknight> omeil: ar? oh i was about to say, they're using some pretty old fashioned stuff
[04:48] <estupendocero> I'm having some trouble installing new fonts. I tried dragging them into the fonts:/// directory, but nothing seems to happen (sorry I'm such a n00b)
[04:49] <TLP-CD> everything is up to date
[04:49] <omeil> i just don't know what to type in the terminal
[04:49] <Jrabbit> I get an error screen after upgrading to edgy
[04:49] <xtknight> omeil: well therers a howto isnt there
[04:49] <geeksauce> arrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7306/
[04:49] <TLP-CD> and i dont have any icons...
[04:49] <Jrabbit> The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.
[04:49] <omeil> lemme see
[04:49] <xtknight> omeil: howtocompilewine or some wiki on their site, winehq maybe
[04:49] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Looks a lot better! sudo /etc/init.d/samba force-reload
[04:49] <omeil> hmm maybe there is something in the archive
[04:49] <threeonefour_> does anyone know if the 6.10 server install cd x86 has the ability to have a live session
[04:49] <armenb> betatux - man my comment
[04:49] <arrenlex> geeksauce: And then test her out.
[04:49] <xtknight> omeil: you extract a .tar with "tar xf  filename".  a .tar.gz requires tar xzvf and a .tar.bz2 requires tar xjvf
[04:49] <betatux> armenb, type : depmod --help , and you'll see a '-a'
[04:50] <arrenlex> xtknight: Technically, tar will recongnise the archive type and correctly extract both gzipped and bzipped tarballs with just tar xf
[04:50] <Hatty> xtknight: Cant run from livecd.
[04:50] <xtknight> arrenlex: really? cool
[04:50] <Xenguy> TLP-CD: that's weird you don't have icons in *any* environment
[04:50] <Hatty> xtknight: /dev/hda3: clean, 203176/21757952 files, 4532531/43495987 blocks
[04:50] <arrenlex> xtknight: Yeah, try it
[04:50] <xtknight> Hatty: hm so did you fsck
[04:50] <Xenguy> TLP-CD: something is surely wrong
[04:50] <xtknight> Hatty: good grief, i have no idea.  ##linux is that way ;) -->
[04:50] <Hatty> heh
[04:50] <estupendocero> I tried to install some new fonts by dragging them into "fonts:///", but nothing seems to happen. Am I missing something?
[04:50] <Hatty> thanks for the help
[04:51] <TLP-CD> anybody have any idea how to create a shortcut to home on the desktop....its not in the right click menu
[04:51] <xtknight> i tried
[04:51] <Xenguy> TLP-CD: what have you been changing recently?  :-)
[04:51] <TLP-CD> ...
[04:51] <TLP-CD> nothing
[04:51] <xtknight> Hatty: ill spy on you in ##linux just to see what the problem was
[04:51] <Xenguy> Xenguy: version?
[04:51] <betatux> TLP-CD, create a link in the /home/username/Desktop
[04:51] <TLP-CD> 6.10
[04:51] <eternalswd> where do core dumps usually get stored?
[04:51] <armenb> ooh, i'm getting a string of modules.dep not found errors apparently.
[04:52] <armenb> not that it can't find the module
[04:52] <Jrabbit> My nautilus doesn't work
[04:52] <Jrabbit> I have no GNOME settings
[04:52] <xtknight> eternalswd: umm..like after a crash?
[04:52] <Jrabbit> HELP
[04:52] <TLP-CD> thats just the problem... i cant create a link!
[04:52] <gradin_> hrm...
[04:52] <TLP-CD> ugh!
[04:52] <xtknight> eternalswd: are you sure your linux is even setup to take core dumps?
[04:52] <impediment> test
[04:52] <xtknight> i'm not sure it's enabled by default
[04:52] <rapid> TLP-CD, man ln
[04:52] <armenb> modprobe: FATAL Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[04:53] <estupendocero> So, any advice on how to install fonts? I know it's minor, but it's bugging me
[04:53] <gradin> how to you extract a .tgz file
[04:53] <geeksauce> arrenlex, yeah looks like the only thing it didn't like was that dhcp.conf file, but you said that doesn't cause any problems
[04:53] <omeil> i can't even install Xchat lol says the same thing :)
[04:53] <rapid> gradin, tar zxpvf file.tgz
[04:53] <geeksauce> arrenlex, testing, hold on
[04:53] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Does it work?
[04:53] <arrenlex> gradin: tar xf file.tgz
[04:53] <Kaline_> estupendocero: Dump them in `/.donts?
[04:53] <omeil> could the nvidia drivers be making ubuntu think that im running a windows platform?
[04:53] <rapid> hahaha!
[04:53] <Kaline_> Err, .fonts.
[04:53] <heathen> hah, got it set up
[04:54] <TLP-CD> ah...thanks rapid....*blames the cat for not checking man*
[04:54] <Kaline_> Donts are another thing all-together. X)
[04:54] <estupendocero> haha
[04:54] <geeksauce> arrenlex, >_< now the workgroup isn't even showing up
[04:54] <rapid> TLP-CD, np :)
[04:54] <prem> could any 1 help me?? cd/dvd creator crashed at start up..can't access file browser
[04:54] <omeil> xtknight
[04:54] <threeonefour_> does anyone know if the 6.10 server install cd x86 has the ability to have a live session
[04:54] <estupendocero> Kaline_, is that what "fonts:///" points to?
[04:54] <prem> could any 1 help me?? cd/dvd creator crashed at start up..can't access file browser
[04:54] <omeil> xtknight i extracted the wine package
[04:54] <Madpilot> Is it possible to deactivate Firefox's password manager thing entirely? I want a "Never, for any site" button on it...
[04:54] <gradin> xtknight: for whatever reason the error occured fcks was getting that i/o error on every single block of the hd...
[04:54] <omeil> no how do i make file :)
[04:55] <Kannaida> so... I'm looking to "break into" the linux world (this is my first time on IRC even).  Kinda tired of being locked into M$ developer role... is Ubuntu a good place to start?
[04:55] <xtknight> omeil: i dont really know the steps off the top of my head, there's a wiki for compiling on the wine page
[04:55] <Jrabbit> My Ubuntu box (upgrading from dapper ot edgy) errored out when loading nautilus and spat out : " The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.
[04:55] <Jrabbit> You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now."
[04:55] <omeil> oh
[04:55] <Madpilot> Kannaida: we're biased, of course it is
[04:55] <xtknight> gradin: hhmmm
[04:55] <xtknight> gradin: so fsck is done?  does it work>?
[04:55] <AndrewB> nn all.
[04:55] <arrenlex> geeksauce: This just gets worse and worse, doesn't it.
[04:55] <Kannaida> I know you're biased... I'm hoping for a bit of honesty and some help
[04:55] <gradin> xtknight: doesn't matter i've already blown away the partition
[04:55] <estupendocero> oooh wait, I figured it out
[04:55] <estupendocero> Kaline_, thanks!
[04:55] <prem> xtknight: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411460
[04:55] <Kannaida> I think Ubuntu is the right choice for me, just not sure if it's the right starting choice
[04:56] <l2s> hi
[04:56] <gradin> xtknight: no, it requried an answer to every single block that was failing...
[04:56] <geeksauce> arrenlex, what happened to the read-only: yes and writeable: no fields?
[04:56] <arrenlex> Kannaida: Ubuntu is a really good place for newbies to start because you can't really hurt yourself with gnome, and because the community is so helpful.
[04:56] <Kannaida> something easy to carry over to from a strictly M$ background
[04:56] <Hatty> Kannaida: Ubuntu is a good starting choice. its very simple, and easy to configure
[04:56] <gradin> so i canceled it and am nuking the partition
[04:56] <n3rrd> xtknight:  reburnt the install disc at 16x and got through the test without any checksum errors... just for the record.
[04:56] <Kannaida> awesome
[04:56] <Madpilot> Kannaida: Ubuntu is designed to be very friendly for new users, but usable for anyone, even experts
[04:56] <arrenlex> geeksauce: I went back to what works for me, since I added those extra lines when the previous version didn't work. Sure, let's add them...
[04:56] <gradin> xtknight: it was just a basic install so its not like i'm loosing anything but the time it took to install...
[04:56] <long_duck_dong> hello all
[04:56] <threeonefour_> does anyone know if the 6.10 server install cd x86 has the ability to have a live session
[04:56] <Logikos^> hello, i just instaled ubunto ... i'm fairly new to linux ... now that i have it instaled i cant seem to do much of anything, i cant even see how to bring up a concel window ?
[04:56] <prem> i need a help http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=411460
[04:57] <Madpilot> threeonefour_: no
[04:57] <betatux> Problem here, OpenOffice Word Processor crashes when I try to digitally sign the document. Anyone else seeing this ?
[04:57] <xtknight> prem: well that's a bug report.  none of us can hel pthere
[04:57] <Hatty> Logikos^: applications -> accessories -> terminal
[04:57] <l2s> WHen you install svn with apt-get for edgy, does apt-get install subversion install 1.4 or 1.3
[04:57] <Logikos^> Hatty: thanks
[04:57] <xtknight> prem: i dont read greek (er i mean gdb backtraces) :P.  youll prolly get mail from gnome devs
[04:57] <omeil> xtknight
[04:57] <Madpilot> !info subversion
[04:57] <xtknight> gradin: you can force it to not ask you for each block
[04:57] <ubotu> subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.2-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 203 kB, installed size 3020 kB
[04:57] <prem> xtknight:my cd/dvd creator crashed!!
[04:57] <xtknight> gradin: ah ok
[04:57] <omeil> i did the ./configure then make depend didn't work
[04:58] <xtknight> prem: that's just the name for nautilus i think
[04:58] <arrenlex> geeksauce: sudo wget http://pastebin.ca/raw/369932 -O/etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:58] <Madpilot> l2s: looks like 1.3.x
[04:58] <threeonefour_> madpilot, are you certian that i cannot boot into a live session using the server install disk
[04:58] <arrenlex> geeksauce: testparm
[04:58] <l2s> how can you tell madpilot
[04:58] <omeil> then i tried make and it said checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
[04:58] <omeil> checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnulibc1
[04:58] <omeil> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[04:58] <omeil> checking for gcc... gcc
[04:58] <omeil> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[04:58] <omeil> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:58] <omeil> See `config.log' for more details.
[04:58] <armenb> does fiesty in ubuntu use initramfs by default?
[04:58] <armenb> because i dont think dapper does.
[04:58] <TLP-CD> ...so if i wanted to create a link to my home folder, i'd enter= ln Home LINK_NAME
[04:58] <long_duck_dong> I am new to Ubuntu and I am having trouble getting the 6.10 to even boot on my laptop?
[04:58] <arrenlex> !paste | omeil
[04:58] <ubotu> omeil: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:59] <xtknight> omeil: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:59] <arrenlex> ~bs | omeil
[04:59] <irida> omeil: Compiling from source? You'll need to install the build-essential package.
[04:59] <prem> xknight:any way out
[04:59] <armenb> xtknight - which version of ubuntu are you running?
[04:59] <betatux> TLP-CD, one could type : ln -s /home/username /home/username/Desktop/home.lnk
[04:59] <jake_> need help with sapphire radeon x1550
[04:59] <Kannaida> to combat the bias... I'm looking to learn to develop Java (time to learn a new language), I like to game, and I probably need interop with M$ office.  I know open office helps the last, but what about the first two?
[04:59] <skirk> why I cant delete files in my USBDISK???
[04:59] <xtknight> armenb: ubuntu 6.10
[04:59] <arrenlex> Kannaida: Java is cross-platform. No problems with that.
[05:00] <Kannaida> right, but U.S. gov't is (surprisingly to me) going OSS and so, linux seems good
[05:00] <omeil> k its downloading thx :)
[05:00] <arrenlex> Kannaida: Gaming is a huge problem. There's a couple simple games for Linux available. Wine will also run a few windows games. But for the most part you're better off dual-booting or having a gaming box.
[05:00] <skirk> why I cant delete files in my USBDISK??? It say I have no permission.....
[05:00] <Madpilot> l2s: because I asked the bot. try "/msg ubotu info subversion"
[05:00] <omeil> arrenlex or he could use Cedega
[05:00] <Kannaida> arrenlex: thanx.  well, I like to game... but I guess it's not really my top priority
[05:00] <Logikos^> after a new instal of ubunto, what is the root password ... it only had me setup a userpass ?
[05:00] <betatux> skirk, have you tried as root ?
[05:00] <kelsin> Kannaida: I run WoW, Warcraft II and Starcraft in wine 9.30 all perfectly fine :)
[05:01] <long_duck_dong> hello?????
[05:01] <threeonefour_> madpilot, are you certian that i cannot boot into a live session using the server install disk
[05:01] <omeil> But you have to pay for cedega
[05:01] <Madpilot> Logikos^: there is no root pw
[05:01] <kelsin> III* not II
[05:01] <arrenlex> omeil: That's true. But cedega costs money and is still not guaranteed to work.
[05:01] <Logikos^> then how do i become root
[05:01] <kelsin> all in blanket wine, not cedega
[05:01] <Madpilot> ubotu: sudo | Logikos^
[05:01] <ubotu> Logikos^: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:01] <prem> xtknight:any ideas?
[05:01] <arrenlex> omeil: In essence he'd be paying for half the functionality he already has for free.
[05:01] <geeksauce> arrenlex, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7309/
[05:01] <l2s> nifty
[05:01] <omeil> true
[05:01] <Ironman273> Anyone have any experience installing SynCE?
[05:01] <skirk> betatux, yes
[05:01] <omeil> cedega would be a good project if it was free :D
[05:02] <Madpilot> l2s: the bot is nifty - I often feel it's the smartest thing in this channel ;)
[05:02] <arrenlex> geeksauce: Huh? It didn't change from last time.
[05:02] <betatux> skirk, what does 'mount' show ?
[05:02] <Kannaida> I think what I'm really looking for is professional development.  Getting into Java, and getting into another OS.  I know Windows (of course), and I don't really have an interest in MacOS, and linux is (I think) a much better choice than Unix
[05:02] <kelsin> omeil: any opengl runs perfect for me without cedega, and since mainly I just use blizzard games, it's great
[05:02] <yurimxpxman> hey I need help really fast with my Ubuntu server. I need to know how to give my FTP access to edit /var/www
[05:02] <jake_> hello, i upgraded from on-board ati video to a sapphire x1550 and now ubunut/kubuntu won't boot after install
[05:02] <arrenlex> Kannaida: Unix? Is that that expensive thing they had in the '80s?
[05:02] <skirk> betatux, mount show "usbdisk"....
[05:02] <omeil> whats any opengl? is that a program
[05:02] <geeksauce> arrenlex, i dunno but i tested it and it works finally!
[05:02] <arrenlex> geeksauce: What? xD