[01:00] <tiagopolicarpopt> hi ppl
[01:00] <tiagopolicarpopt> \help
[01:01]  * tiagopolicarpopt test
[05:04] <Kilos> o/
[18:46] <tsimonq2> pleia2: can you please give http://planet.ubuntu-us.org/ a poke when you get the chance? it's not showing my latest blog post...
[20:16] <elacheche> !ubuntu
[20:16] <elacheche> !help
[21:25] <pleia2> tsimonq2: there is nothing I can do, the planet software is just not picking it up
[21:26] <pleia2> tsimonq2: wha are tou using to generate the xml? it's usually a formatting issue
[21:36] <tsimonq2> pleia2: (don't yell at me don't yell at me :D :P) hand-written


[09:04] <sangtraan> gg
[19:35] <tortal> been trying to install either lubuntu or xubuntu on a mechanically funky older amd laptop. either way, now ive finally been able to launch xubuntu live with the install icon. but im getting this: https://pastebin.com/0BGmrj0B
[19:37] <tortal> in tty1 i see array out of bounds for something called pplib_atom_clock_voltage_depdency_record
[20:50] <tomreyn> tortal: i'm not convinced it's a good idea to try to run ubiquity as root.
[20:51] <tomreyn> for difficult hardware, i'd rather try to use debootstrap or the server installer.
[20:52] <supesdupes> How does xubuntu override XDG_CONFIG_DIRS to point to by default /etc/xdg-xubuntu so xubuntu is able to customize its own default settings? What file does it use for that?
[21:01] <tortal> tomreyn: that is the command which is executed when you double click on the "install xubuntu"-icon
[21:03] <tomreyn> tortal: oh, i wasn't aware that runs as root, ok.


[12:15] <alexandros_se> Anyone knows who decides about the *.edu domains ?
[12:19] <HedgeMage> alexandros_se: planning on starting a university?
[12:20] <alexandros_se> Kind of :)
[12:21] <HedgeMage> I'm not sure... it's probably said somewhere on the ICANN web site, though
[12:21] <alexandros_se> no actually I was elected to the board of a swedish college...
[12:21] <HedgeMage> alexandros_se: congrats :)
[12:21] <alexandros_se> HedgeMage, thanks :)
[12:21] <alexandros_se> well my main project is to create a global internet school
[12:22] <alexandros_se> already spoken to some guys in this channel about this project
[12:22] <HedgeMage> ahh
[12:22] <alexandros_se> an community & e-learning platform that I'm building on...
[12:23] <alexandros_se> (ps. it will become the best)
[12:23] <alexandros_se> :D
[12:27] <alexandros_se> HedgeMage, so what are the criterias for *.edu domains?
[12:28] <HedgeMage> not sure, I've not had one before
[12:57] <mhz> hey guys
[12:57] <mhz> ogra, still there?
[12:57] <cbx33> !seen ogra
[12:57] <ubotu> ogra is currently on #edubuntu #ubuntu
[12:58] <mhz> cbx33, thx
[12:58] <mhz> ;)
[12:58] <cbx33> he should be there:p
[12:58] <mhz> yah, but also he was busy 5 hours ago
[12:59] <mhz> maybe still is
[12:59] <crimsun> it's past midnight in his area, no?
[12:59] <cbx33> ogra, is always busy
[12:59] <mhz> cbx33, are you using -install or -live ?
[12:59] <cbx33> mhz, y?
[12:59] <cbx33> what d'ya need
[01:00] <mhz> I couls finally successfully boot from PCMCIA CD drive in order to install edubuntu (install.iso)
[01:00] <mhz> BUT
[01:00] <Bluekuja> oooooh mhz
[01:01] <mhz> after rebooting
[01:01] <Bluekuja> is with us
[01:01] <Bluekuja> :)
[01:01] <mhz> Bluekuja, hey mon!
[01:01] <cbx33> hehe
[01:01] <cbx33> BUT...?
[01:01] <Bluekuja> how much time mauricio
[01:01] <Bluekuja> where did you go?
[01:01] <mhz> cbx33, I endup with just a minimal install
[01:01] <cbx33> oh?
[01:01] <mhz> cbx33, no 'nano', no 'openssh-server', etc
[01:01] <cbx33> hmm....I've nenver had that
[01:01] <cbx33> what does the install log say?
[01:02] <mhz> and it did took his normal time when building ltsp environement during installation process
[01:02] <cbx33> check the install logs
[01:02] <mhz> Bluekuja, just sick, again :(
[01:02] <mhz> hmmm, too late
[01:02] <mhz> I wiped it out
[01:03] <Bluekuja> mhz: oh, its all ok now?
[01:03] <mhz> I only have this machine to work and test and I really needed to continue with some documents... so I booted Elive :)
[01:03] <cbx33> hehe
[01:03] <mhz> (because edubuntu-live.iso gets me to a busy box :D
[01:03] <mhz> Bluekuja, lot better
[01:03] <mhz> hopefully
[01:03] <cbx33> mhz, is it a powerful machine?
[01:04] <cbx33> y not use VMWare?
[01:04] <mhz> thin laptop (Fujitsu Siemens B2175, 10 inches, 256 MB, 20 GB, 500 MHz celeron, touchscreen)
[01:04] <Bluekuja> ok mhz great, i'm happy to see you here again
[01:04] <Bluekuja> :)
[01:04] <mhz> Bluekuja, sorry I keep missing so much stuff
[01:04] <Bluekuja> yeah, i was waiting you for a lot of time
[01:05] <Bluekuja> but np
[01:05] <Bluekuja> ;)
[01:05] <mhz> per la matina ? :D
[01:05] <mhz> hehehe
[01:05] <Bluekuja> hehehe
[01:05] <Bluekuja> you know italian really well
[01:05] <Bluekuja> lol
[01:06] <mhz> heheh
[01:17] <Bluekuja> lol pete
[03:46] <Amaranth> the more i look at this the more i think willow is a bad idea with a lacky implementation :P
[03:46] <Amaranth> err
[03:46] <Amaranth> good idea with a lacking
[03:46] <Amaranth> need more caffeine
[03:47] <Amaranth> oh well, it wouldn't be fun if it was easy
[03:47] <Burgundavia> Amaranth: what are the issues?
[03:48] <Amaranth> hard coded paths, bad documentation, lacking build system
[03:48] <Amaranth> oh well, here comes the mega patch
[03:49] <Burgundavia> Amaranth: you going to fix it for them?
[03:50] <Amaranth> i doubt they'll accept a build system that depends on gnome-common :)
[03:50] <Amaranth> but it's the only autofoo i know
[03:50] <Burgundavia> good enough for us, at least
[08:53] <cbx33> goooooood morning all
[09:04] <cbx33> hi JaneW
[09:08] <edubuntugirl> they're still sleeping
[09:10] <cbx33> alright the games up
[09:10] <cbx33> come out with ya hands up edubuntugirl
[09:11] <cbx33> now wave them around and say ooohh, woooh, oooh ,woooh
[09:11] <highvoltage> hmmm.. definately influenced by those gangster kids...
[09:12] <highvoltage> or is it cbx33.... :)
[09:12] <cbx33> heheeh
[09:12] <cbx33> no sir not me sir
[09:12] <cbx33> highvoltage, I've merged your changes the current version of the ESA
[09:12] <cbx33> we've started the compilation and categorieation
[09:12] <highvoltage> cool
[09:12] <cbx33> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuSchoolAdvocacy/LaserJock
[09:13] <cbx33> we've changed a few sections around and merged one or two
[09:13] <cbx33> i like the bullet point idea that LaserJock came up with
[09:13] <highvoltage> oooh, that's nice
[09:13] <highvoltage> it's so clean and simple
[09:14] <cbx33> yes we had a great idea there
[09:14] <highvoltage> and readable
[09:14] <cbx33>  /we/he
[09:14] <cbx33> I'll be started to add the applications into the merge in about 2 minutes
[09:14] <cbx33> :p
[09:15] <cbx33> highvoltage, I can't believe that klinkstatus crashed on me yestreday.
[09:15] <cbx33> I think I'll use my own link checker script to check them out
[09:16] <highvoltage> hmmm... yeah i don't know. been a while since i used klinkstatus.
[09:16] <cbx33> hehe
[09:16] <cbx33> any news on whether we're going to get shipit cds?
[09:16] <highvoltage> i think there's many websites that do that checking for you. doesn't w3c have a checker too?
[09:17] <cbx33> i think so, but we need one that does nested checking too
[09:17] <cbx33> it did throw up a few broken links
[09:17] <cbx33> but it died before I could find out what they were
[09:23] <cbx33> highvoltage, there's some discusion about whether we should describe the non educational applications?  what do you think?  I think that something like blender wouild be good to be described
[09:23] <cbx33> refresh the page and take a look at what I've added
[09:27] <enyc> hrrm
[09:28] <enyc> please, some edubuntu+1 developers, try pressing ctrl+alt+f1 (to get to console) (alt+f7 to get back) -- let me know if this works ;-) --
[09:28] <highvoltage> yep, i think non-edu apps are needed too. esp the essentials like OOo, firefox, etc. many people are afraid that they won't be able to use linux for the basics
[09:28] <enyc> I having been having issue with dapper whereby ctrl+alt+F? does not work from x-server (but 'chvt' command still does) ;-)
[09:28] <highvoltage> enyc: works for me, which display driver are you using?
[09:28] <cbx33> I'll pass this on to LaserJock, I think he was concerned with flooding with information
[09:28] <enyc> I nood to work out where-whon this happens in order te create a bug or not
[09:28] <cbx33> enyc, I had this issue way back on fedora :p
[09:29] <highvoltage> cbx33: he's right though
[09:29] <cbx33> highvoltage, i agree
[09:29] <cbx33> but if we're careful about which ones we do I think it'll be ok
[09:29] <enyc> highvoltage: hrrm this is on an onbard-sis machine I do not have access te at the moment ;-(
[09:29] <cbx33> like blender
[09:29] <cbx33> is a fantastic application that needs toeb made more of
[09:29] <highvoltage> cbx33: although, you could mention that in a sentence... something like "Edubuntu also includes an office suite, web browser and email client." instead of going into all the details
[09:29] <cbx33> OO too
[09:29] <cbx33> its difficult
[09:30] <highvoltage> blender doesn't run well on thin clients though, which is why i don't usually make a lot of noise about it. it is a great app, copmletely agreed there.
[09:30] <cbx33> hehe, true
[09:31] <cbx33> it'll be better when we get local apps no?
[09:31] <highvoltage> absolutely :)
[09:31] <cbx33> I just personally think people are going to need convincing about the OOo application.
[09:31] <cbx33> it's probably the single most inportant app to them
[09:32] <cbx33> and i wonder if glazing over it and saying it has an office suite is enough
[09:32] <cbx33> kinda like we're trying to hide it
[09:32] <highvoltage> i just refreshed the page, i see what you mean, it's gotten very big again
[09:32] <cbx33> hehe
[09:32] <cbx33> remove the screenshots
[09:32] <cbx33> well
[09:32] <cbx33> in your mind
[09:32] <cbx33> :p
[09:32] <cbx33> i can do that now actually
[09:33] <highvoltage> people are generally happy when they know they have a word processor, spreadsheet and presentation program
[09:34] <highvoltage> you could possibly have three screenshot in a row of them, and mention that OOo has database and vector drawing, as well as an html editor too
[09:34] <cbx33> yes
[09:34] <cbx33> ok a lot smaller now
[09:34] <enyc> ?is NVU the html_editor of choice now?
[09:34] <cbx33> nooooooooooo
[09:34] <enyc> ok ;-)
[09:34] <cbx33> well
[09:34] <cbx33> not for me
[09:34] <cbx33> it's good but the css editing needs a lot of work
[09:35] <cbx33> in the last version i tried
[09:35] <enyc> high: ?what were you thinking of as tho html_editor there?
[09:35] <enyc> cbbiirc it hast moved from v1 in ages
[09:36] <cbx33> highvoltage, i gotta go get up now :p
[09:36] <cbx33> join #edubuntu-doc if you have further comments
[09:36] <cbx33> then i can scroll back easily
[09:36] <cbx33> I'll be back in a while
[09:36] <highvoltage> enyc: i don't know if it's that great, but it's probably worth mentioning
[09:36] <highvoltage> cbx33: ok
[09:36] <cbx33> highvoltage, so are we thinking more or less for OO
[09:37] <cbx33> hehehe
[09:37] <cbx33> kk
[09:37] <enyc> highvoltage: but I wanted to know _what_ program was worth mentioning as html_editor ;-)
[09:37] <cbx33> quanta
[09:37] <highvoltage> enyc: well, we can only really mention it if it's included, i think
[09:37] <cbx33> true
[09:37] <highvoltage> quanta is nice, but isn't included with edubuntu
[09:37] <cbx33> no
[09:38] <highvoltage> it's available in universe
[09:38] <enyc> hrrm kk
[09:38] <highvoltage> but not on cd
[09:38] <enyc> I_see
[09:38] <highvoltage> and it depends on kdelibs, so we know it won't be in edgy :/
[09:39] <highvoltage> although, it *might* go on the add-on cd, but it's a bit unlikely since we have nvu, which is almost as nice as quanta, but gtk/gnome based
[09:39] <enyc> .... and edubuntu is gnome.... and there is no kedubuntu iirc ;-)
[09:41] <highvoltage> lol, we had a nice play on words at the edubuntu summit
[09:44] <ogra> highvoltage, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/LinuxTagTalk.pdf
[09:45] <ogra> but its all german and the slides are quite empty, probably lucasvo can translate for you
[09:45] <ogra> enyc, try nvu
[09:45] <ogra> ciao all
[10:36] <lucasvo> highvoltage: do you wan't me to translate it?
[11:55] <cbx33> highvoltage, lisa just about to start work on  thewallpaper
[12:31] <pygi> JaneW: all is done
[12:34] <pygi> ogra: around?
[12:51] <cbx33> pygi, nope
[12:51] <cbx33> he's doing his talk i think
[12:51] <pygi> ah, nice
[12:52] <pygi> hi cbx33 btw. :)
[12:52] <cbx33> hi
[01:01] <highvoltage> lucasvo: would be nice, but no rush. we could probably adapt it to use as some standard presentation, although I haven't seen it yet- don't have enough bandwidth
[01:01] <highvoltage> lucasvo: how larg is it
[01:01] <highvoltage> ?
[01:01] <highvoltage> cbx33: nice :)
[01:04] <cbx33> yeh?
[01:04] <cbx33> I;m working on the BETT show proposal
[01:07] <cbx33> the wallpaper is taking shape :p
[01:08] <cbx33> when is edgy due out?
[01:08] <cbx33> :p
[01:08] <cbx33> I'm thinking ahead dont worry, doing some planning :p
[01:09] <highvoltage> 1 June
[01:09] <cbx33> highvoltage, edgy :p
[01:10] <cbx33> dapper is 1 June isn;t it :p
[01:11] <pygi> cbx33: two versions, same day :)
[01:11] <highvoltage> ah, right :)
[01:11] <cbx33> pygi, heheh that'd be cool
[01:12] <cbx33> but would kinda make dapper a little useless
[01:12] <highvoltage> originally, it was going to be six months after the orignal dapper
[01:12] <highvoltage> which was due for april 20
[01:12] <highvoltage> and it's delayed by two weeks, which means...
[01:12] <cbx33> about December?
[01:12] <highvoltage> early november.
[01:12] <cbx33> excellent
[01:12] <cbx33> that makes cbx33 very happy :p
[01:17] <cbx33> highvoltage, got a sec in a minute to have a look at the BETT proposal I'm drafting
[01:17] <cbx33> still in very early stages
[01:17] <highvoltage> yep
[01:17] <cbx33> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BETTShow2007
[01:17] <cbx33> I'm still editing
[01:20] <highvoltage> it's already very good
[01:20] <cbx33> :D
[01:20] <cbx33> getting there
[01:21] <cbx33> I'll let you know when I've done some more
[01:21] <cbx33> does JaneW normally pop in at the weekends?
[01:21] <highvoltage> occasionally
[01:22] <highvoltage> best to talk to her monday again, or e-mail
[01:22] <cbx33> ok
[01:29] <cbx33> afternoon edubuntugirl
[01:31] <edubuntugirl> hi cbx33
[01:31] <highvoltage> edubuntugirl seems a bit sleepy still
[01:31] <edubuntugirl> highvoltage: what?
[01:32] <cbx33> or is it that highvoltage is still a bit sleepy :p
[01:32] <cbx33> highvoltage, refresh page :p
[01:32] <cbx33> there is more :p
[04:49] <Amaranth> is ogra giving a talk at linuxtag?
[04:50] <cbx33> i think so
[04:50] <cbx33> he's giving atalk anyway
[04:51] <Amaranth> i think i'm watching him right now
[04:51] <Amaranth> too bad it's in german :P
[04:51] <cbx33> heheh
[04:51] <cbx33> you're there?
[04:51] <Amaranth> someone is talking about edubuntu but i can't really seem them
[04:51] <Amaranth> no
[04:51] <cbx33> online?
[04:51] <cbx33> link me
[04:52] <Amaranth> http://stream.fluendo.com:8806/
[04:54] <Yagisan> !seen hedgemage
[04:54] <ubotu> hedgemage <i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage> was last seen on IRC in channel #edubuntu, 16h 26m 8s ago, saying: 'not sure, I've not had one before '.
[05:10] <Amaranth> neat
[05:10] <Amaranth> !seen ogra
[05:10] <ubotu> ogra <n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra> was last seen on IRC in channel #edubuntu, 7h 24m 42s ago, saying: 'ciao all'.
[05:12] <Yagisan> Amaranth: yeah, I saw someone use it here a few days ago
[05:13] <Amaranth> i suppose it works in #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1 too
[05:14] <Yagisan> possibly. I've never tried
[06:23] <cbx33> hi jsgotangco
[06:26] <jsgotangco> hi
[06:27] <jsgotangco> cbx33: how's things?
[06:27] <cbx33> yeh going good
[06:27] <cbx33> working on some docs and proposals and learning about drupal
[06:27] <jsgotangco> drupal is really neat
[06:27] <jsgotangco> i've yet to update one of my installations to 4.7 though
[06:28] <cbx33> hey
[06:28] <cbx33> i'm on 4.7 now
[06:28] <cbx33> :p
[06:28] <jsgotangco> did you install from scratch? or upgrade from a previous
[06:29] <cbx33> from scratch
[06:30] <cbx33> i know highvoltage had a bit of trouble upgrading earlier
[06:30] <jsgotangco> yeah i tried doing it 2 days ago, it won't work on me even if i turned off the extra modules i installed early on
[06:31] <jsgotangco> i've yet to look on it again though
[06:31] <cbx33> i was luck :p
[06:31] <cbx33> i did it from scratch
[06:32] <jsgotangco> yeah but i already have 80MB of data to port over, plus a slew of modules :)
[06:33] <jsgotangco> well i gotta sleep early
[06:33] <jsgotangco> ciao
[06:33] <cbx33> ciao
[06:42] <cbx33> woooo
[06:42] <cbx33> hi Bluekuja
[06:42] <Bluekuja> hi pete :)
[06:42] <cbx33> fancy visiting lindon next year :p
[06:42] <cbx33> london
[06:42] <cbx33> :p
[06:42] <Bluekuja> hehe
[06:43] <Bluekuja> how are you man?
[06:43] <cbx33> yeh good
[06:43] <Bluekuja> and how its going the doc?
[06:43] <cbx33> yeh
[06:43] <cbx33> i havn't done too much
[06:44] <cbx33> hoping to speak to LaserJock later
[06:44] <cbx33> and highvoltage
[06:44] <cbx33> when he returns
[06:44] <Bluekuja> ok great
[06:44] <cbx33> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BETTShow2007
[06:44] <cbx33> i've been working on that
[06:45] <Bluekuja> oh nice
[06:45] <cbx33> no news on the mails?
[06:45] <cbx33> yeh, hence why i asked if you wanted to visit london next year :p
[06:45] <cbx33> heheh
[06:45] <Bluekuja> hehe
[06:45] <Bluekuja> no news
[06:45] <Bluekuja> for them
[06:45] <cbx33> :(
[06:46] <Bluekuja> by the way ill come to your house
[06:46] <Bluekuja> lol
[06:46] <cbx33> heheh
[06:46] <cbx33> will you now
[06:46] <cbx33> :p
[06:46] <Bluekuja> hehe
[06:46] <Bluekuja> you have any other news?
[06:47] <cbx33> hmm
[06:47] <cbx33> working on drupal at the moment
[06:47] <cbx33> thinking of possibly using it for a website
[06:47] <Bluekuja> oh nic
[06:47] <Bluekuja> e
[06:47] <cbx33> just testing it out at the moment
[06:47] <Bluekuja> well its a good platform
[06:47] <cbx33> does drupal have multilingual capabilities?
[06:48] <Bluekuja> mmm...i think yeas, highvoltage talked about it to me some time ago
[06:48] <cbx33> cool I'll need that
[06:48] <Bluekuja> about italian language
[06:49] <Bluekuja> have you ever tried mambo?
[06:51] <cbx33> yes
[06:51] <cbx33> i'm currently using mambo
[06:51] <cbx33> thinking of moving the site over to drupal
[06:51] <Bluekuja> well its a nice cms software
[06:51] <Bluekuja> but you have got also a forum?
[06:52] <cbx33> no
[06:52] <cbx33> don;t need one
[06:52] <Bluekuja> well in my opinion it would be nice to have one
[06:52] <Bluekuja> its for your  lug?
[06:52] <cbx33> on edubuntu ?
[06:52] <cbx33> oh
[06:52] <cbx33> no this is for another project
[06:52] <Bluekuja> does your lug have one?
[06:54] <cbx33> not yet
[06:54] <cbx33> they use my old media wiki
[06:55] <Bluekuja> oh okie
[06:55] <Bluekuja> if you need help with a forum, just ask me
[06:55] <cbx33> ok
[06:56] <cbx33> phpbb is what i normally use
[06:56] <Bluekuja> i use smf
[06:56] <Bluekuja> :)
[07:11] <highvoltage> cbx33: my lug uses a mediawiki i set up too :)
[07:20] <LaserJock> cbx33: have you had a chance to check ESA/LaserJock?
[07:23] <Bluekuja> LaserJock
[07:23] <Bluekuja> reallly nice
[07:23] <Bluekuja> *really
[07:40] <cbx33> LaserJock, yes
[07:40] <cbx33> did you see my changes
[07:41] <LaserJock> yep
[07:41] <cbx33> look good?
[07:42] <LaserJock> yeah
[07:42] <LaserJock> we need to finish the educational apps section, and fill in the Q&A a bit, IMO
[07:42] <cbx33> yes
[07:42] <cbx33> but largely we're done
[07:43] <cbx33> highvoltage, thinks the bullet sections is great
[07:43] <LaserJock> I think so
[07:43] <cbx33> as do I
[08:14] <humbolt> what is the ltsp status in dapper?
[08:17] <humbolt> What version of ltsp is in there? Do we have support for local CDs, USB storage, floppy yet? What about sound support?
[08:17] <spacey> :p
[08:17] <spacey> in the ubuntu implementation sound works
[08:18] <spacey> local devices not
[08:18] <spacey> at least not out of the box
[08:18] <spacey> automatic lights are annoying
[08:22] <highvoltage> humbolt: when you ask, version of ltsp, what do you mean?
[08:23] <highvoltage> humbolt: ubuntu doesn't use the ltsp implementation you would download at ltsp.org
[08:23] <humbolt> which version according to ltsp.org
[08:24] <humbolt> but they get and modify it form there, don't they?
[08:25] <spacey> ubuntu ltsp goes over ssh
[08:25] <spacey> ltsp.org goes with XDMCP
[08:25] <spacey> ltsp.org ltsp does support localdevices
[08:26] <spacey> and stuff
[08:26] <highvoltage> humbolt: nope
[08:27] <highvoltage> humbolt: ubuntu builds the ltsp chroot from ubuntu packages
[08:27] <humbolt> ubuntu ltsp does always go over ssh even without ldm installed?
[08:29] <humbolt> spacey: so no local device support yet in ubuntu
[08:29] <highvoltage> technically, you can remove ldm, install gdm, and enable XDMXP
[08:29] <highvoltage> *gasp*
[08:29] <highvoltage> XDMCP
[08:29] <highvoltage> not yet, no.
[08:29] <highvoltage> that's in the line for edgy
[08:29] <humbolt> highvoltage: will not make it in dapper?
[08:29] <humbolt> too bad
[08:29] <highvoltage> nope, dapper is in feature freeze
[08:30] <highvoltage> yeah, would be nice to have it now.
[08:30] <humbolt> there is one thing I don't like about linux distro development cycles, one thing that should change!
[08:30] <highvoltage> and that is?
[08:33] <humbolt> distros should be handled like linux kernels used to be. since dapper is going to be supported for 5 years, the base should be kept but updates provided. supported updates. like local devices for ltsp or the newest kde version. Now, I can only get them, if I go for edgy, which will introduce a whole lot of new potentially unstable technologies.
[08:34] <humbolt> somehow something like backports releases, so all backport packages actually go together well.
[08:34] <Yagisan> humbolt: we use ltsp meukow. ie next generation ltsp
[08:34] <humbolt> but no real changes would be introduces. nothing like from devfs to udev, ...
[08:34] <humbolt> what is that?
[08:35] <LaserJock> there are backports but the current backports policy is that the source packages from edgy would have to build on dapper without any modification
[08:35] <Yagisan> humbolt: the one described by highvoltage and spacey
[08:44] <highvoltage> Yagisan: why can't you?
[08:47] <Yagisan> highvoltage: because that is a talent I lack
[08:47] <highvoltage> ah, i see what you mean. i can't draw either :(
[08:48] <highvoltage> i do good stickmen though
[08:48] <Yagisan> highvoltage: I drew a "computer virus" for my new ads, and none of my test people could identify it :(
[08:50] <highvoltage> shame :(
[08:51] <highvoltage> :)
[08:52] <highvoltage> goodnight Yagisan
[08:52] <cbx33> right I'm off for 2 hours
[08:52] <cbx33> :p
[08:52] <Yagisan> damm, too slow
[08:53] <Yagisan> bye cbx33
[08:53] <cbx33> aww Yagisan that sux
[08:53] <Yagisan> cbx33: they liked the copy though :)
[08:53] <cbx33> excellent
[08:54] <Yagisan> cbx33: that's a good sign. If it works and brings in more money, I can spend more time doing Ubuntu stuff
[08:59] <cbx33> yay
[09:00] <cbx33> bbl
[10:25] <drbreen> how can i disable the automounter?
[10:25] <drbreen> i have an usb hub at my server and want to be able to mount stuff manually
[10:31] <pygi> hi HedgeMage, bluekuja
[10:32] <HedgeMage> hi pygi :)
[10:32] <Bluekuja> hi pygi :)
[10:32] <pygi> how are you?
[10:32] <Bluekuja> really good man
[10:32] <Bluekuja> you?
[10:32] <pygi> good, but really really tired :-/
[10:32] <Bluekuja> hehe
[10:32] <Bluekuja> what  time is it there?
[10:33] <pygi> 10:32 P.M. but I haven't slept for a few days now
[10:33] <HedgeMage> awww
[10:33] <Bluekuja> oh why?
[10:33] <Bluekuja> work?
[10:34] <pygi> dealing SoC, and some other things I have to do
[10:34] <pygi> cause I go to Sweden in monday :-/
[10:34] <Yagisan> G'day HedgeMage
[10:34] <HedgeMage> hi Yagisan
[10:35] <pygi> so I am trying to solve everything I can
[10:35] <HedgeMage> poor pygi... wish I could help :(
[10:36] <pygi> HedgeMage: nah, no worries for me :)
[10:37] <Yagisan> HedgeMage: whens a good time to bother you about #doomsday and group contact form I did a few weeks ago now
[10:38] <Yagisan> pygi: SoC, you are eligible ?
[10:38] <pygi> Yagisan: mentor
[10:38] <Yagisan> ah
[10:38] <Yagisan> cool
[10:39] <Yagisan> pygi: so what wonderful new feature are we getting ?
[10:39] <pygi> Yagisan: not sure just yet :)
[10:39] <pygi> you'll have to wait to hear about that :)
[10:40] <HedgeMage> Yagisan: I'll put you on the squeaky wheel list right now :)
[10:42] <Yagisan> HedgeMage: thanks. I really need to kick the spammers, trolls, and other turds that cause trouble while I'm trying to do support
[10:42] <pygi> see ya all later
[10:42] <Yagisan> bye pygi
[10:43] <pygi> I'll sleep for like 2 hours, and be back then =P
[10:43] <Bluekuja> okie  cya man
[11:22] <mhz> hi guys
[11:45] <mhz> After trying 3 times to install from Edubuntu-install-beta.iso
[11:45] <mhz> I realized the most I would get was just to a 'server' install
[11:45] <mhz> even after specifying <enter> at boot prompt
[11:46] <mhz> (which should have installed a whole edubuntu-server and desktop, AFAIK)
[11:46] <mhz> Anyways, I had to manually apt get those 2 packages
[11:47] <mhz> Also, I am missing a "config" tool to change interfaces suitable for primary, secondary and high school
[11:47] <mhz> IIRC, there is som work done about it, or not?
[11:47] <mhz> Anyone knows?
[11:50] <Yagisan> G'day mhz, didn't notice you popped in
[11:51] <Yagisan> mhz: no idea, sorry.
[11:53] <mhz> Yagisan: hi there
[11:53] <mhz> Nice to see ya
[11:53] <mhz> BUT I am now on my way to show off with edubuntu :D
[11:53] <mhz> I'll be back in about 2 hours or so
[11:54] <mhz> I hoipe your family is better and cool, Yagisan
[11:54] <mhz> c ya