[00:00] <stdin> that would depend on the ftpd config I guess
[00:01] <genii> timboy: Consult the documentation for whichever Windows based ftp server you installed under Wine
[00:01] <genii> timboy: But I'd suggest ditching it for something more practical like proftpd or vsftpd
[00:01] <timboy> genii, how will that tell me how to open up port 21 to a non-root user?
[00:02] <genii> timboy: Because the ftp server is what decides the port it uses and who can use it
[00:02] <DirkGently> timboy: what do you mean by open up?
[00:02] <genii> ergo the fault is with the application
[00:02] <DirkGently> firewall?
[00:02] <timboy> genii, I can set the port myself 1025 works fine but anything under 1025 doesn't. I want to use a standard ftp port though
[00:04] <genii> timboy: There is likely some convoluted method involving calling whatever Windows ftp daemon from something like xinetd but it's horribly inelegant
[00:04] <PhilRod> timboy: afaik, it's a restriction in the kernel that nonprivileged users can't bind to privileged ports
[00:04] <PhilRod> ah yeah, maybe xinetd would let you get round it
[00:05] <timboy> PhilRod, figured it out! authbind
[00:05] <timboy> genii, authbind
[00:05] <timboy> thx anyway
[00:06] <DirkGently> timboy: what is the ftp software?
[00:06]  * DirkGently is curious
[00:08] <timboy> DirkGently, bulletproof ftp server an excellent app that has built in blacklisting of ip's and tons of features and stats. that was the only thing keeping my iis box up and running still!
[00:09] <DirkGently> timboy: not Internet facing though? or you're not worried about it being circumvented?
[00:09] <timboy> DirkGently, what do you mean?
[00:10] <DirkGently> ftp is insecure
[00:10] <DirkGently> passwords are passed without encryption
[00:12] <DirkGently> is there an sftp version of bulletproof?
[00:12]  * DirkGently looks
[00:14] <DirkGently> timboy: no it doesn't: http://wiki.builtbp.com/index.php/Secure_FTP_Support
[00:15] <timboy> DirkGently, it is supposed to in their 3.x release but it doesn't look it is being worked on as of now... they just redid their website and started selling the client so i'll send them a question
[00:15] <timboy> i'm not worried though.
[00:15] <DirkGently> timboy: their suggestion to encrypt files is a bit lame too
[00:17] <admin1> hey, i need help to configure NVIDIA display on kubuntu 8.04 anyone?pls?
[00:17] <Odd-rationale> Is Kubuntu.org going to get a new design for the 8.04 release? I remember there was a competition for a new web design dome time back. Does anyone know for 	sure	?
[00:17] <stdin> admin1: until it's release, hardy support is in #ubuntu+1
[00:17] <timboy> DirkGently, yeah that's what I thought
[00:17] <timboy> lol
[00:19] <DirkGently> timboy: these small companies are usually quite good for support if they're active though
[00:20] <timboy> DirkGently, yeah but the program just straight rocks! and I don't have to modify one conf file... :D
[00:22] <DirkGently> timboy: there's probably management front ends for ssh server too
[00:23] <DirkGently> timboy: I know what you mean when you have an app that does exactly what you want
[00:24] <haider> hi how can i mount NTFS partitions ?
[00:24] <heath> haider: click on it
[00:24] <haider> i have one which don't appear when i launch the System
[00:25] <heath> it's not in storage media
[00:25] <haider> there was two one called File System which is for linux and the second (20GB drive)
[00:26] <haider> the second disappear
[00:26] <haider> ed
[00:26] <heath> haider: what does sudo fdisk -l say
[00:26] <heath> that should tell you the drives and there partitions
[00:26] <DirkGently> haider: is it in fstab?
[00:26] <haider> no
[00:28] <haider> /dev/sda1   *           1        6079    48829536   83  Linux
[00:28] <haider> /dev/sda2            6080        9730    29319168    6  FAT16
[00:28] <haider> this is for the sudo fdisk -l
[00:28] <heath> haider: there is no NTFS drive
[00:28] <haider> i know it is just disappeared
[00:28] <haider> i'm sure there was one
[00:29] <heath> so you should have /dev/sdb ?
[00:29] <genii> Perhaps you unallocated it
[00:29] <haider> i stored in it lot of data :(
[00:29] <DirkGently> ouch!
[00:29] <heath> haider: do you have 2 drives or just 1
[00:29] <haider>   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[00:29] <haider> /dev/sdb1               1       19457   156288321    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[00:29] <haider> i see this too
[00:29] <heath> haider: Are you sure it's a NTFS drive
[00:29] <haider> i have only one and an external hard drive
[00:30] <haider> yeah there was vista on it
[00:30] <DirkGently> haider: is this dual-boot?
[00:30] <genii> haider: If you upgraded to ntfs fs on there from win98/me or so then the partition info makes more sense
[00:30] <DirkGently> does it still boot into Vista?
[00:30] <haider> i format it when was vista on the PC
[00:30] <haider> no
[00:30] <DirkGently> do you get the option ?
[00:31] <haider> it was working before a week
[00:31] <heath> haider: was vista on the same drive you installed linux
[00:31] <haider> but now it is just disappeared
[00:31] <DirkGently> haider: it worked since you installed Kubuntu?
[00:31] <haider> no no i removed vista completely but i kept the other partition
[00:31] <haider> yea it was working
[00:32] <heath> haider: You use any partioning tools recently did you?
[00:32] <DirkGently> how big was the drive?
[00:32] <haider> 80 GB
[00:32] <haider> all
[00:32] <haider> it was only 30 GB
[00:33] <heath> haider: what does df -h show
[00:33] <stdin> and please use pastebin
[00:33] <stdin> !paste
[00:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:34] <haider> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[00:34] <haider> /dev/sda1              46G   27G   17G  62% /
[00:35] <DirkGently> looks like you need to add /dev/sda2 to fstab
[00:35] <heath> The partition should still show
[00:35] <DirkGently> do you know where it was mounted before?
[00:35] <haider> really i didn't check that
[00:36] <DirkGently> heath: sda2 does (fat16 not ntfs)
[00:36] <DirkGently> haider: why did you keep the 30GB partition?
[00:37] <haider> to store some data
[00:37] <DirkGently> why not format it ext3?
[00:37] <DirkGently> for Linux
[00:37] <haider> cause the data was on vista before
[00:37] <DirkGently> as you're not running Windows
[00:37] <haider> so i don't wanna remove it
[00:38] <haider> so any solution ?
[00:38] <heath> haider: just do a reboot and see if it shows up again. use fdisk -l
[00:38] <heath> haider: can you pastebin df -j for me
[00:38] <heath> haider: can you pastebin df -h for me*****
[00:39] <DirkGently> he showed it in channel
 /dev/sda1              46G   27G   17G  62% /
[00:40] <haider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64153/
[00:40] <haider> here it is
[00:40] <INIT_6> I found my answer about a month or so ago. just can't find the same page. I need to know how to exclude a package from updating. any suggestions?
[00:40] <DirkGently> haider: can you do the contents of fstab too?
[00:40] <heath> thanks... now sudo fdisk -l
[00:41] <haider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64154/
[00:41] <haider> here it is
[00:42] <DirkGently> fstab???
 friends, i have install nvidia-settings on kubuntu8.04 but i just can't see all the options du the screen's res, i'm trying to set it to more than 640*480 but in the gui setting centre i just can't, please give me any advice to change that..
[00:43] <haider> no this is the fdisk -l
 haider: can you do the contents of fstab too?
[00:43] <haider> how is that ?
[00:43] <DirkGently> cat /etc/fstab
[00:44] <haider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64155/
[00:44] <haider> here it is
[00:45] <heath> haider: no NTFS.... maybe your disk is out of sync (highly unlikely) or you have some how removed the partition
[00:45] <INIT_6> *bumb* How do you exclude a package from showing up in adept updater?
[00:45] <haider> so how can i get it back
[00:45] <haider> ?
[00:45] <heath> haider: I would try a reboot and see what fdisk -l tells you then...
[00:45] <sgrover> INIT_6: pin the package
[00:45] <heath> you should have a file system of NTFS
[00:45] <DirkGently> heath: how about getting him to mount sda2 first?
[00:45] <INIT_6> thank you sgrover
[00:46] <sgrover> :) not sure on the details of how to do the "pin", but that's the phrase I've heard
[00:46] <DirkGently> see if his data is on there
[00:46] <haider> dear i want it back even if i lose the data
[00:46] <heath> Sounds good to me
[00:46] <haider> i tried to mount sda2
[00:46] <heath> haider: mkdir fat
[00:46] <heath> haider: did you get an error
[00:46] <haider> yeah
[00:46] <haider> let me show u
[00:47] <heath> what was it
[00:47] <DirkGently> :)
[00:47] <heath> DirkGently: /dev/sda2 is 30GB
[00:47] <haider> mount: can't find /dev/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[00:47] <DirkGently> heath: exactly my point
[00:47] <heath> what command are you typing
[00:48] <haider> mount -a /dev/sda2
[00:48] <heath> haider: mkdir fat
[00:48] <stdin> no need for -a there
[00:48] <DirkGently> :)
[00:48] <heath> mount /dev/sda2 fatsudo
[00:48] <heath> sudo mount /dev/sda2 fat****
[00:49] <haider> mount: mount point fat does not exist
[00:49] <timboy> ok so there is some ftp daemon running on my system.. how do I remove it?
[00:49] <haider> so i have to make mkdir fat
[00:49] <heath> haider: did you mkdir fat
[00:49] <DirkGently> right
[00:49] <backtick> #kubuntu-kde4
[00:49] <backtick> ah sorry
[00:49] <haider> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[00:49] <backtick> was trying to join
[00:49] <haider> i get this now
[00:50] <backtick> well hello kubuntuians
[00:50] <DirkGently> timboy: what do you have in /etc/init.d/*ftp*
[00:50] <DirkGently> ie any ftp scripts?
[00:51] <DirkGently> haider: sudo mount -f vfat /dev/sda2 fat
[00:51] <DirkGently> haider: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 fat
[00:51] <DirkGently> it's late here
[00:51] <timboy> yes thx DirkGently I should have figured... ;)
[00:52] <DirkGently> timboy: dpkg -l | grep ftpd ?
[00:52] <haider> it doesnt work
[00:53] <haider> anyway thank you guys :)
[00:53] <heath> haider: we need the errors
[00:53] <heath> sudo mount -t autofs /dev/sda2 fat
[00:53] <haider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64156/
[00:53] <haider> here is the error
[00:54] <heath> can you paste dmesg | tail
[00:55] <heath> haider: are you sure you didn't change the FS by mistake?
[00:55] <haider> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64157/
[00:55] <haider> here it is
[00:55] <haider> yeah i'm sure
[00:55] <haider> i didn't do anything
[00:56] <heath> haider: do you have a bluetooth adapter in?
[00:56] <haider> yeah
[00:58] <haider> i remove it and this is the error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64158/
[00:59] <heath> haider: what version of kubuntu are you using?  lsb_release -a
[01:00] <haider> 7.10
[01:00] <haider> gusty
[01:00] <haider> gutsy ***
[01:01] <heath> looks like there are some bluetooth issues going on... are you planning to upgrade tomorrow?
[01:01] <haider> may be
[01:02] <haider> i removed the bluetooth
[01:02] <heath> did you try mount -t autofs
[01:03] <haider> yeah i did
[01:04] <heath> see if a restart gets you any where....
[01:04] <haider> ok
[01:04] <haider> thanks for help
[01:04] <haider> see u
[01:07] <bz029> What is the best way to go about with a script that sends an email if a specific pattern is printed to the syslog?
[01:09] <TeslaTony> Is there a way to search for files that DON'T match a string?
[01:10] <TeslaTony> Specifically, anything that isn't *.mp3 or *.m3u in /Music
[01:10] <stdin> find /path -not -iname "*.mp3" ?
[01:10] <ubuntu_> HOLA
[01:10] <ubuntu_> COMO ETAN TODOS
[01:11] <ubuntu_MICHAEL> ALQUIEN ME PUEDE AYUDAR
[01:11] <TeslaTony> !es | _MICHAEL
[01:11] <ubotu> _MICHAEL: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:11] <ubuntu_MICHAEL> ESTOY USANDO EL UBUNTU, PERO NO SE COMO CONFIGURAR EL  MODEMS
[01:11] <TeslaTony> !caps | _MICHAEL
[01:11] <ubotu> _MICHAEL: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:11] <stdin> ubuntu_MICHAEL: /join #kubuntu-es
[01:15] <DirkGently> so he can shout in #kubuntu-es ?
[01:15] <heath> lol
[01:15] <stdin> rather there than here :)
[01:16] <DirkGently> I suppose it's no different to English tourists in Spain thinking that shouting will make them understood
[01:17] <TeslaTony> In twenty years, we're going to be hanging around in a holodeck lounge, talking to each other, and someone is bound to walk in with a tuba-sized megaphone, going "ENTSCHULDIGUNG! KANN JEMAND MIR HOREN?!?!?!"
[01:18] <TeslaTony> Ah, ign0ramus, you have come to the right channel
[01:18] <heath> anyone use virtualbox?
[01:19] <stdin> !anyone
[01:19] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> heath: yes
[01:19] <heath> nosrednaekim: is there anyway to start machines upon boot??
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... put the command in your kde autostart folder
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> !autostart
[01:20] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[01:20] <heath> nosrednaekim: I mean boot... not login
[01:20] <heath> I have a headless XP start on login
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> heath: no... since you need to be running X for it to work
[01:20] <DirkGently> nosrednaekim: is that your real name Mike?
[01:20] <heath> nosrednaekim: even headless?
[01:20] <nosrednaekim> I think... of not, just put the command in /etc/rc.local
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> DirkGently: indeed :)
[01:21] <heath> nosrednaekim: I will try it ... thanks
[01:21] <DirkGently> At least your's is almost readable... lol
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> :)
[01:22] <nosrednaekim> if it is long :)
[01:25] <backtick> heath: look up "framebuffer" for headless GUI applications
[01:26] <heath> backtick: i'm checking it out rught now... thanks
[01:35] <jlund> KDE Forever!
[01:35] <jlund> Am I right guys?
[01:36] <heath> lol
[01:36] <jlund> This place is like a funeral compared to #ubuntu
[01:36] <jlund> But we all know our desktop is better!
[01:37] <Odd-rationale> +1 for kde
[01:37] <heath> we are all toasted
[01:37] <heath> KDE is all about the visuals right?
[01:37] <Odd-rationale> heath: not just about the visuals...
[01:38] <heath> Odd-rationale: just a joke
[01:38] <Odd-rationale> sorry. didn't get it ... :)
[01:38] <heath> it's ok I'm not funny anyway
[01:38] <backtick> heath: KDE is all about clocks =P
[01:39] <heath> lol
[01:39] <heath> backtick: I can see your desktop now
[01:39] <backtick> yeah but youn haven't seen my walls ;)
[01:41] <backtick> which reminds me i should do an oxygyn/kde4 nokia theme
[01:45] <jlund> Nokia? Like the cell phone company?
[01:46] <ubuntu_> hi !
[01:47] <jlund> What's up ubuntu_?
[01:47] <heath> Is it possible to use skype with a bluetooth cell phone piece?
[01:47] <heath> I see a bluetooth audio package
[01:47] <ubuntu_> i just make a test with ubutu linux os !
[01:48] <ubuntu_> i[m not a linux user
[01:48] <heath> ubuntu_: you like??
[01:49] <ubuntu_nick> nick Nagais good
[01:49] <backtick> jlund: yeah, a nokia phone theme
[01:49] <jlund> backtick: Can you run this on your phone now?
[01:49] <heath> You know... I wanted to order an Ubuntu coffee mug for $5 and shipping was $20
[01:50] <Odd-rationale> i know. I wanted to order stickers. but $10 for shipping?!
[01:50] <ubuntu_nick> realy
[01:50] <dsmith_> Odd-rationale: mkae your own stickers
[01:50] <heath> Odd-rationale: we should start a store
[01:50] <dsmith_> *make
[01:50] <Odd-rationale> dsmith_: I don't have a good printer...
[01:50] <backtick> jlund: i didn't make the theme yet but they are fairly easy to make.. just some images and an XML file
[01:50] <dsmith_> I used inkskape and found someone that had a great printer
[01:51] <dsmith_> printer a sheet on stickey paper
[01:51] <Odd-rationale> I do have the F/OSS sticker books. vol I & II
[01:51] <dsmith_> whats that?
[01:51] <backtick> jlund:  and ultimately depends one the phone model family
[01:51] <Nagark> ok i need go now flws !!!
[01:52] <dsmith_> nm I found it
[01:52] <backtick> s/one/on
[01:52] <Devourer> How do I paste something from my clipboard into Konsole?
[01:52] <Odd-rationale> dsmith_: http://www.openstickers.com/
[01:52] <Odd-rationale> Devourer: shift+insert ?
[01:53] <Devourer> Odd-rationale, yeah, thanks... Strange... is there another way though? That automatically executes the command.
[01:53] <Odd-rationale> Devourer: right-click --> paste
[01:54] <Devourer> Odd-rationale, no hotkey? Lol.
[01:54] <Jucato> Devourer: it automatically executes the command if you had included the "Enter" character in the selection you copied
[01:55] <Jucato> (that is, you selected up to the next line or something like that)
[01:55] <stdin> Ctrl-Shift-V
[01:55] <Devourer> Jucato, hmmm... maybe I did...
[01:55] <Jucato> otherwise, normally it wouldn't execute pasted commands
[01:55] <Devourer> stdin, that doesn't work.
[01:56] <stdin> Devourer: new lines will be interpreted as "enter" though, so watch that, I know I've ran a few commands I didn't mean to that way
[01:57] <Devourer> stdin, yeah, that could suck.]
[01:58] <backtick> Devourer: shit + insert
[01:58]  * backtick adores yakuake
[01:59] <jlund> !language | backtick
[01:59] <ubotu> backtick: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[02:00] <Devourer> Lol, what?
[02:00] <backtick> adore v [T not in progressive] [Date: 1300-1400; Language: French; Origin: adorer, from Latin adorare, from ad- 'to' + orare 'to speak, pray']// to love someone very much and feel very proud of them
[02:01] <backtick> had to check since i'm not a native english speaker =P
[02:01] <dsmith_> yakuake is sweet
[02:01] <dsmith_> jus' F12 and off you go....
[02:02] <stdin> backtick: I believe he as referring to the the typo, missing f after i and before t in "shift" ;)
[02:02]  * genii sips his beer
[02:02] <backtick> aah wow
[02:03] <backtick> ehm, that's LCDs for me
[02:03] <stdin> you'd be surprised how often that happens though
[02:04] <freeblowed> which is the best kde 4 kubuntu to download
[02:04] <backtick> sounds like a good candidate for "auto replace" in konversation config
[02:04] <stdin> freeblowed: hmm? how many are there?
[02:05] <freeblowed> 8
[02:06] <stdin> who told you there were 8 kubuntu kde4 releases?
[02:06] <stdin> there's barely one
[02:06] <freeblowed> kubuntu.org
[02:07] <freeblowed> alpha 1 and up to 6 and then beta and rc
[02:07] <stdin> you mean the alphas/betas/rcs ?
[02:07] <stdin> yeah, those are pre-released
[02:07] <freeblowed> yeah which is best?
[02:07] <stdin> the official release is today
[02:07] <genii> Sometime :)
[02:07] <freeblowed> oh really
[02:07] <freeblowed> so i should just wait then huh
[02:07] <stdin> probably within the next 10 hours </guess>
[02:07] <stdin> 10-12 anyway
[02:08] <freeblowed> then all the mirrors will be bogged like hell for a few days
[02:08] <genii> 2:08 BST .... I wonder how long the mirrors take to sync
[02:08] <freeblowed> i could barely get 710 when that came out for a few days
[02:08] <tekteen> torrent is faster
[02:08] <genii> Well it's basically a DDOS attack then :)
[02:08] <genii> I'm just waiting to seed torrents
[02:08] <backtick> freeblowed: in software relaces they are ordered like this (from earlies and least stable to newsest and most stable): alpha, beta, (sometimes but rarrly gamma) release and rc = release candicate and then the finla release
[02:09] <backtick> s/relaces/releases
[02:09] <tekteen> even if it is blocked by the ISP torrent is faster then the http/ftp
[02:09] <tekteen> :-)
[02:09] <genii> Yup
[02:09] <tekteen> backtick: lol
[02:09] <tekteen> backtick: perl guy?
[02:09] <freeblowed> why alpha beta gamma?
[02:09] <backtick> tekteen: ruby =P
[02:09] <freeblowed> where's c d e f
[02:10] <tekteen> ok
[02:10] <tekteen> close enough :-P
[02:10] <stdin> the greek alphabet is a different order than the roman one
[02:10] <backtick> freeblowed: because they sound cooler ;)
[02:11] <freeblowed> oh i see it's a b g d e z e ...
[02:11] <stdin> wikipedia ftw :p
[02:12] <tekteen> freeblowed: Hebrew is also messed up that way :-)
[02:12] <Odd-rationale> there is also RC.  :P
[02:14] <stdin> nah, I'd be -ansi -pedantic
[02:14] <stdin> oh, and -Wall
[02:15] <tekteen> I am doing a little polling. How many people are going to be using kubuntu-kde4? I am probably going to install kde4 and then install kde3 in case I get sick of kde4 (I know it will happen).
[02:16] <backtick> tekteen: i was going to install both side by side and finally give up on kde 4 and stick to 3
[02:17] <tekteen> same as me ;-)
[02:17] <tekteen> first install kde4 and then kde3
[02:17] <tekteen> and wait till I get sick of kde4
[02:18] <TeslaTony> I'm using Ubuntu with the Kubuntu-KDE4-Desktop package installed
[02:23] <wesley__> does someone want to test some plasma-debs ?
[02:23] <tekteen> wesley__: I am bored and have nothing to do
[02:23] <tekteen> wesley__: I am in kde 3 now but have kde4
[02:24] <wesley__> uh a standard kde4?
[02:24] <tekteen> In gutsy
[02:24] <tekteen> through the ppa repo
[02:25] <wesley__> uh no i upload the deb
[02:25] <heath> Is anyone running compiz?
[02:25] <tekteen> wesley__: what do you need me to test?
[02:26] <tekteen> !ask | heath
[02:26] <ubotu> heath: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[02:27] <wesley__> tekteen if you can install it without any probems i dont know if it need depend on something whats not standard in kde4
[02:28] <heath> ok.... is anybody running compiz with KDE fx enabled
[02:28] <heath> I was just trying to start a konversation
[02:28] <tekteen> heath: it is not possible to run both
[02:28] <wesley__> tekteen: heres the the plasma deb http://www.mediafire.com/?ycmneualyjo
[02:28] <tekteen> ok
[02:28] <heath> tekteen: when compiz starts does it disable them by default
[02:29] <tekteen> heath: it turns off kwin while it is running
[02:29] <wesley__> tekteen please let me know if the deb works without a problem
[02:29] <Jucato> heath: KDE 4 effects come with KWin, KDE's default window manager. Compiz is another window manager. You can't have 2 window managers running at the same time
[02:29] <heath> I gotcha...
[02:29] <tekteen> bye guys
[02:30] <tekteen> got to login to kde4
[02:30] <wesley__> okay
[02:30] <heath> Jucato: thanks for clearing that up... I should of just thought about it more
[02:30] <unix_infidel> hey Jucato
[02:30] <stdin> wesley__: that package has no dependencies
[02:31] <nbf7777> guys stupid question probably... but how do you pen the terminalin kubuntu?
[02:31] <Jucato> hey unix_infidel
[02:31] <heath> pin the konsole?
[02:31] <Jucato> nbf7777: "pen"?
[02:31] <tekteen> open
[02:31] <Jucato> oh...
[02:31] <nbf7777> open sorry
[02:31] <Jucato> K Menu -> System -> Konsole
[02:31] <wesley__> stdin: you know sure i can not test on my own pc becauuse i got everthing i i needed it
[02:31] <nbf7777> small keboard. the asus eee is to tiny
[02:32] <nbf7777> thank you much jucato
[02:32] <stdin> wesley__: dpkg-deb --info plasma-bball_20080424-1_i386.deb
[02:32] <heath> when compiz crashes... where does it dump its log?
[02:32] <stdin> wesley__: checkinstall isn't a good way to make packages
[02:33] <backtick> nbf7777: you can press alt+f2 and type konsole
[02:33] <Jucato> heath: most apps dump system-related logs in /var/log/
[02:33] <wesley__> stdin: i dont know a other way to do it easy
[02:33] <heath> that's were i'm looking
[02:34] <wesley__> tekteen did you install it succesfull ? and can you add that plasmoid
[02:34] <stdin> wesley__: have a look at the extragear-plasma package, you can just grab the debian/rules and debian/cdbs/ dir from there
[02:34] <Jucato> heath: you might want to ask in #compiz-fusion for help
[02:35] <heath> Jucato: thanks
[02:35] <wesley__> stdin: you mean i find there the depends ?
[02:35] <stdin> wesley__: no, you don't add dependencies manually, there are automated tools to do that for you
[02:35] <tekteen> wesley__: do I need to restart kde4 after installing?
[02:35] <stdin> !packaging | wesley__, read this
[02:35] <ubotu> wesley__, read this: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[02:36] <Devourer> Is much going to change for Kubuntu with 8.04?
[02:36] <wesley__> tekteen: no if it install succesfull it shoul appear in you plasma menu
[02:36] <tekteen> Devourer: yeah... kde4
[02:36] <tekteen> wesley__: what is added?
[02:36] <Devourer> tekteen, does Kubuntu not use KDE4 right now?
[02:37] <wesley__> a sort of ball bball its called
[02:37] <tekteen> Devourer: there will be 2 versions
[02:37] <Jucato> !khardy | Devourer
[02:37] <ubotu> Devourer: Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 3 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported
[02:37] <haider> hi
[02:37] <haider> where is heath ?
[02:37] <Devourer> O.o
[02:38] <tekteen> my computer is too messed up to test
[02:38] <tekteen> sorry
[02:38] <backtick> i'm downloading the packages
[02:38] <heath> haider: what's up
[02:38] <haider> hiii heath
[02:38] <tekteen> run it in a virtual machine :-P
[02:39] <haider> i make it
[02:39] <wesley__> tekteen if doesnt that will problaly be that there are no depends
[02:39] <haider> i restored the partition
[02:39] <jtmonz> how do i enable effects in kde4?
[02:39] <heath> sweet...
[02:39] <heath> what was the issue
[02:39] <haider> i used the cfdisk
[02:39] <haider> after i used shred
[02:39] <tekteen> wesley__: when I am playing with this stuff I create a "untainted image" and then build on it
[02:39] <heath> so the partition was actually damaged
[02:39] <haider> exactly
[02:40] <heath> you just made new... what type of fs
[02:40] <haider> mkfs
[02:40] <haider> and everything is fine
[02:40] <Jucato> jtmonz: #kubuntu-kde4 please
[02:40] <heath> mkfs.ext3 ?
[02:40] <haider> i used linux file system
[02:40] <heath> word
[02:40] <haider> yeah ext3
[02:41] <wesley__> tekteen just like i tough you need depends i got them already most of them
[02:41] <heath> haider: sucks you lost everything
[02:41] <haider> it is working now and i am happy cheeeeeers
[02:41] <heath> I would of told you to ice it if you didn't need anything
[02:41] <haider> no problem i have 80 % in the external device
[02:41] <haider> they were C# codes only
[02:42] <haider> programs i made before
[02:42] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know if any big bugs have been found in the hardy rc? i'm thinking about dling/installing it right now, but i can wait if there's going to be a big difference in tomorrow's release
[02:42] <haider> you are sweet guy dear heath thanks for ur help :)
[02:43] <haider> i do appreciate that for u
[02:43] <Dr_willis> secleinteer,  you may as well wait a day. save on server load.
[02:43] <heath> no problem... anytime
[02:44] <haider> so there is a new release today ?
[02:44] <backtick> secleinteer: if there are, the packages will show as updates as usual.. well i think unless it's something to do with filesystem structure or a startup process
[02:44] <Dr_willis> secleinteer,  ive had some issues.. but theres a new kernel release in todays updates.. so perhaps that will fix things
[02:44] <heath> tomorrow
[02:44] <tekteen> haider: tomorrow
[02:44] <heath> well... I guess it depends where u  are at
[02:44] <haider> for me now its 24 Apr
[02:44] <heath> is it tomorrow anywhere yet
[02:44] <haider> how about u all ?
[02:44] <secleinteer> Dr_willis: ok, i'll wait then
[02:45] <heath> lol
[02:45] <heath> 9:45pm on the 23rd
[02:45] <haider> i'm in Mars so the date kinda different hehehehehe
[02:46] <haider> its so nice on Mars
[02:46] <haider> :D
[02:46] <tekteen> mars has bad weather
[02:46] <tekteen> and the year is much longer
[02:46] <haider> its 4:46 AM 24 Apr
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> and its red
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> yech
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[02:47] <backtick> haider: asia?
[02:47] <haider> yeah but it is nice cause nobody there but me
[02:47] <haider> i'm living in Jordan
[02:47] <haider> actually Iraqi
[02:47] <haider> planning to reach USA
[02:47] <haider> nice mix right ? :d
[02:48] <haider> Jordan , Iraq and USA
[02:48] <heath> sounds exciting
[02:48] <tekteen> I live on pluto
[02:48] <heath> not even a planet
[02:48] <heath> anymore
[02:48] <haider> yeah Pluto is nice but its too cold
[02:48] <haider> come to iraq and you will enjoy your time
[02:49] <tekteen> I have not been allowed on earth since pluto was declared not a planet
[02:49] <haider> always : Boooooooooooom Dooooooooooooooom
[02:49] <Jucato> !offtopic
[02:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:49] <haider> Explosions
[02:49] <haider> lol
[02:49] <tekteen> Jucato: If anyone comes with a real question we can always stop ;-)
[02:49] <Jucato> no
[02:49] <heath> ubotu: How can I get a kubuntu coffee mug to support kubuntu
[02:50] <tekteen> fine
[02:50] <haider> who is Jucato ?
[02:50] <backtick> a #kubuntu overlord
[02:50] <backtick> it seems
[02:50] <Roey> :D
[02:50] <Jucato> right
[02:50] <backtick> =P
[02:50] <Roey> Jucato can give ops kickbacks to his friends too
[02:51] <heath> i'm out guys... have a good night or day
[02:51] <haider> overlord ? you mean he is like Ekhlees ?
[02:51] <asobi> where is my space going? just noticed 11gb+ is used @_@
[02:51]  * Roey blinksblinksblinksblinks
[02:51] <haider> he can kill anyone
[02:51] <haider> :-p
[02:51] <Roey> like Light
[02:51] <Roey> in Death Note
[02:51] <haider> see you heath
[02:51] <Dr_willis> Plus he as a reserved parking space!
[02:51] <Roey> which I'm currently neck-deep in
[02:51] <Jucato> ahem
[02:51] <Dr_willis> at least no one in here is asking  at what exact time will the release be released...
[02:51] <haider> so we have a Terminator here
[02:52] <Jucato> asobi: if you can, try to install the package "filelight". it will give you a graphical representation of used space
[02:52] <tekteen> Dr_willis: 12:20 AM EDT :-)
[02:52] <asobi> i don't need a picture. i like to know why it's using so much space
 where is my space going? just noticed 11gb+ is used @_@ <---- tekteen, there's your real question
[02:52] <Dr_willis> is filelight the one that goves the 'blocks' layout of disk ussage? I recall seeing another similer tool. but can never rember its name
[02:52] <Jucato> asobi: um... you were asking "where", so filelight will tell you where
[02:52] <Jucato> then you can find out "why"
[02:53] <asobi> ah
[02:53] <Jucato> asobi: it's just not a pretty picture, you can click on it to go to that location
[02:53] <tekteen> Jucato: I can't answer that question :-)
[02:55] <haider> tell me how can i register in here ?
[02:55] <haider> so i can send PM
[02:55] <haider> and stuffs
[02:55] <tekteen> !register
[02:55] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[02:56] <GLADIATOR> hello
[02:56] <asobi> i need more ram too :/
[02:56] <tekteen> GLADIATOR: hello
[02:56] <GLADIATOR> i changed my name
[02:56] <GLADIATOR> i was haider before
[02:56] <asobi> ooooooooooo
[02:56] <GLADIATOR> looool
[02:56] <tekteen> ok
[02:56] <asobi> is trash stored under root??
[02:56] <tekteen> lol
[02:56] <GLADIATOR> i love this name
[02:56] <tekteen> asobi: if you were logged in as root
[02:57] <tekteen> asobi: else it is stored in your user folder
[02:57] <asobi> um
[02:57] <asobi> how can i tell?
[02:57] <Jucato> asobi: your user's trash? no. you can enter trash:/ in Konqueror to get to it
[02:57] <tekteen> you are not logged in as root
[02:57] <asobi> ah ok
[02:57] <Dr_willis> if you ran the file manager as root. and deleted a lot of things.. your root users trash may be taking up space.
[02:59] <asobi> it's showing a lot under /local/share
[02:59] <asobi> how can i make it so trash doesn't take up space?
[02:59] <Dr_willis> emopty the trash regularry?
[02:59] <Dr_willis> you mean .local/share/Trash?
[03:00] <asobi> yea
[03:00] <asobi> and why is there a var/backup ?
[03:02] <Simulator> how can i set a password for my nick name ?
[03:02] <asobi> ./ns register nick pass
[03:03] <asobi> thanks for filelight. very helpful!
[03:08] <haider> so anyone know how can i activate the voice chat in ubuntu ?
[03:08] <haider> over messenger
[03:09] <haider> i mean for yahoo
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> haider: don't think you can
[03:10] <haider> why ?
[03:10] <tekteen> search for yahoo im clients
[03:10] <tekteen> one does it
[03:11] <backtick> haider: kopete doesn't support yahoo voice chat
[03:12] <backtick> haider: try Gizmo or well try skype
[03:12] <haider> i know that
[03:12] <tekteen> haider: I know one works
[03:12] <haider> give it to me please
[03:13] <tekteen> haider: looking for it
[03:13] <timboy> terminal redirection isn't working for me... I'm running: ~/cxoffice/bin/wine --debugmsg=all --bottle=NOF10 Fusion.exe > fusion.log and it still displays all in the terminal
[03:13] <haider> not all applications works with wine
[03:14] <haider> i do appreciate that tekteen
[03:14] <timboy> haider, i know that i just want to see what's failing and it's too much to look at in terminal
[03:14] <nexus> hey everyone
[03:14] <nexus> any idea why package updates would fail on a fresh install of kubuntu?
[03:14] <nexus> this is the error I get
[03:14] <nexus> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[03:14] <haider> yeah
[03:15] <haider> edit the sources.list
[03:15] <haider> and remove the # from deb ...
[03:15] <haider> all of them
[03:15] <haider> the run sudo apt-get update
[03:15] <nexus> ok, will do. how do I get it to do updates again
[03:15] <nexus> k
[03:15] <haider> after that it will be fine
[03:16] <haider> you can get updates and new packages
[03:17] <tekteen> haider: meebo.com may work
[03:17] <haider> let me see
[03:17] <tekteen> haider: it is a browser based im client
[03:17] <backtick> timboy: you're redirecting only stdout and not stderr
[03:17] <haider> :( i know that site
[03:17] <timboy> backtick, how do i do both?
[03:17] <tekteen> and my bro says it has some functionality for voice. not sure about yahoo voice
[03:17] <haider> i see it before
[03:18] <haider> may be one time we can make some messenger that provides voice and cam ( Dreaming ) lol
[03:19] <haider> skype is fine
[03:19] <backtick> timboy: something >& somehwre
[03:19] <haider> but stupid
[03:19] <timboy> backtick, sweet thx!!!
[03:20] <haider> emmmmm who know about installing Dock ?
[03:20] <haider> i did the steps that i found in ubuntu forums but i got nothin
[03:24] <nexus> yeah seemed to fix it
[03:24] <nexus> what about those other packages that failed though?
[03:24] <nexus> will this take care of them?
[03:24] <haider> try apt-get install -f
[03:25] <haider> or apt-get update -f
[03:26] <haider> use sudo apt-get install -f
[03:26] <haider> sudo apt-get update -f
[03:27] <nexus> I did update -f
[03:28] <haider> did it work ?
[03:28] <nexus> install -f just tells me what has been ugraded, newly installed, remove, or not upgraded.
[03:28] <nexus> well
[03:28] <nexus> there is new packages to be upgraded
[03:28] <nexus> I just want to make sure I am not missing any packages because of that failure before
[03:29] <haider> how can i start my car using ubuntu terminal ? :D
[03:30] <nexus> guess I am just being paranoid, it would tell me if there were packages that didnt install
[03:30] <nexus> they would just show up as new updates, I am sure of it
[03:31] <jitendra> nexus: they are held coz the updates may not be stable
[03:31] <jitendra> nexus: i mean upgrades
[03:32] <nexus> hmm, so you think they are still there, un-upgraded eh?
[03:32] <nexus> it doesnt make much sense, it was a fresh install.
[03:32] <haider> someone tell me how can i upgrade ?
[03:32] <haider> to the new version ?
[03:33] <Odd-rationale> !upgrade
[03:33] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:33] <jitendra> nexus: if u r that desperate to install them, try sudo apt-get install ...... where .... refers to the package which are available for upgrade
[03:33]  * backtick always do clean installs
[03:33] <nexus> oh there is a new version? Adept told me there was a new distro out, I thought 7.10 was the latest stable
[03:34] <backtick> nexus: that changes today
[03:34] <nexus> Hardy's out today!?
[03:34] <nexus> ;)
[03:34] <haider> it seems that iam already up-to-date
[03:34] <jitendra> yup. it is going to be released within few hrs
[03:35] <nexus> well screw this then, I'll just download hardy and install with that
[03:35] <stdin> if you want to know if hardy is out, type /topic
[03:39] <sparr_> the kde low disk space warning, is that purely % based?
[03:48] <squidy> hey.. is there a way to rip dvd videos using k3b?
[03:49] <dwidmann> squidy: yes
[03:49] <dwidmann> sparr_: dunno, my disks are so big that I never run out of space :D
[03:50] <sparr_> i got down to 5% on /home
[03:50] <sparr_> and it warned me
[03:50] <sparr_> of course, 5% is 25GB
[03:51] <squidy> dwidmann: How I get it? Is there a how to to do that?
[03:52] <sparr_> im getting really annoyed at having to manage free space on my hard drives.  i wish there was a non-destructuve way to transparently spread a folder across multiple drives
[03:53] <dwidmann> squidy: well, you'll need libdvdcss2 from medibuntu probably, not sure what else it'll want, but it should be doable by going to .....
[03:53] <squidy> I've already installed libdvdcss2
[03:53] <dwidmann> tools -> rip video dvd
[03:54] <luis_> hola
[03:54] <luis_> que tal alguiend de peru
[03:54] <luis_> alguien que me ayude a reparar kopete?
[03:55] <stdin> !es | luis_
[03:55] <ubotu> luis_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[03:56] <dwidmann> sparr_: must be % based then
[03:57] <squidy> installing dvdrip.. arrhhg!! :-(
[04:05] <dwidmann> squidy: why?
[04:05] <dwidmann> squidy: k3b should work fine ... though dvdrip is a bit more flexible
[04:06] <squidy> dwidmann: because i've wanted to use k3b for that..
[04:07] <dwidmann> hmm, one sec, I'll give k3b a quick run and see if I can get it to rip a dvd without issue
[04:09] <squidy> :)
[04:09] <genii> After libdvdcss2/3 install k3b worked flawlessly for me on even the worst DVDs
[04:11] <squidy> weird
[04:12] <dwidmann> Doesn't seem to be working for me either
[04:12] <dwidmann> genii: /3?
[04:12] <luis_> hello
[04:12] <dwidmann> hi
[04:12] <genii> dwidmann: Yes, there is a libdvdcss3
[04:13] <dwidmann> genii: hmm, when did it come out and why haven't I heard of it?
[04:13] <squidy> genii: i've installed libdvdcss2...
[04:13] <genii> lemme see if I can re-find where I got it
[04:13] <luis_> sorry i'm principiant in ubuntu
[04:15] <dwidmann> wait, I'm not seeing it as installed for me, maybe I only installed it on my laptop
[04:16] <Mike34>
[04:16] <Mike34>
[04:24] <zeke> anyone know of a good video editor that allows for cut paste and other by frame?
[04:24] <Jucato> kino? kdenlive?
[04:24] <Jucato> (first is a GNOME app, 2nd a KDE app)
[04:25] <zeke> I believe MANIPULATE is the word I wanted...thank you, Jucato.
[04:36]  * cab86 pokes around
[04:36] <cab86> is anyone alive?
[04:36] <maduser> no there all zombies
[04:36] <cab86> i just wanted to ask anyone that knew... if it was ok to remove certain packages...
[04:37] <maduser> which?
[04:37] <cab86> like the linux-restricted-modules for 5 different kernels that are currently installed in my system
[04:38] <cab86> as far as I know... Hardy is currently using only 2 kernels... and both are 2.6.24-16
[04:38] <stdin> remove the kernel images and that package will be removed too
[04:38] <Boohbah> what do i need to convert mp3 to wav with k3b for burning? i installed sox
[04:39] <maduser> do what starndard imput says cab86
[04:39] <Jucato> keep at least 2 kernels and their accompanying modules: 1 kernel that you are using currently, and one backup (the last working kernel)
[04:39] <cab86> but i'm looking in synaptic and it says that the ones for  2.6.17-11, 2.6.20-16, 2.6.22-14
[04:39] <cab86> are installed
[04:40] <cab86> aside from the hardy ones
[04:45] <dek> I need to make a script to do poff dsl-provider, but only sudo can do that. How can I workaround this?
[04:46] <maduser> what you need to get around sudo?
[04:46] <maduser> you can't use sudo?
[04:47] <dek> maduser: the script is to be executed automatically, so i cannot enter password myself
[04:48] <stdin> put it in /etc/rc.local to get it to start at boot
[04:48] <dek> stdin: i dont need it to start at boot, it has to start whenever a program calls it, so its kind of "random"
[04:49] <stdin> there's no way to "get around" sudo as such
[04:50] <maduser> there should be a away for the program to enter the password itself
[04:51] <dek> program just calls script
[04:51] <maduser> the script that needs the password should be able to return the password
[04:51] <dek> I am reading something about /etc/sudoers, seems it could work
[04:51] <stdin> you can make sudo read from (heh) stdin, yes
[04:52] <maduser> yeah standard imput
[04:52]  * genii pipes stdin to stdout
[04:52] <stdin> /etc/sudoers is more difficult than it looks, so be careful
[04:53]  * stdin steps away from #ubuntu-release-party for a while to catch his breath
[04:54] <dek> stdin: ok, will be :P
[04:55] <cab86> stdin, it is alright for me to remove those old images then...?
[04:55] <stdin> cab86: yeah, you're not booting them are you?
[04:55] <cab86> not that i know off... :P
[04:55] <stdin> cab86: just keep the current one and a known good one just in case
[04:56] <cab86> i wonder why the upgrade process doesn't get rid of those...
[04:57] <cab86> what would be the prompt command to find out the current version i'm running on?
[04:57] <stdin> uname -r
[04:58] <cab86> thanks
[05:01] <cab86> wooo hooo, 500+ megs of memory being freed...
[05:05] <discombobulated> anyone here actually say anything?
[05:06] <stdin> we're all in #ubuntu-release-party
[05:07] <discombobulated> ok
[05:11] <zeke> kdenlive doesn't seem to run so well on my laptop
[05:17] <secleinteer> hi, when i install the nvidia drivers in hardy (had the same problem in gutsy) the dpi is way too high
[05:17] <secleinteer> how do i fix this?
[05:17] <zeke> lemme google dpi
[05:18] <zeke> duh
[05:18] <zeke> resolution in other words
[05:18] <tiberius1701> hey everyone, who know alot about the kcontrol
[05:18] <zeke> ?
[05:19] <secleinteer> zeke: no, i mean the fonts are too big
[05:19] <secleinteer> the resolution is fine
[05:19] <secleinteer> nvm got it
[05:19] <secleinteer> problem solved
[05:20] <zeke> oh
[05:20] <zeke> good
[05:22] <tiberius1701> shouldn't there be some option in the kcontrol for the splash screen, but there is'nt?
[05:23] <ATHF-Assemble> should be
[05:24] <tiberius1701> i dont have an option, but there is one in kde4?
[05:25] <zeke> x just crashed on me
[05:25] <zeke> now for kcontrol
[05:29] <zeke> I'm not finding it either man
[05:30] <tiberius1701> strange, so how they expect us to change it
[05:31] <tiberius1701> there must be away of doing it through the console
[05:33] <ATHF-Assemble> you want to change login screen or the loading screen?
[05:34] <tiberius1701> well not that you mention it both
[05:35] <tiberius1701> i just read somthing on google it sad maybe i need the starup manager or somthing/
[05:36] <ATHF-Assemble> well for login it's under login manager
[05:36] <ATHF-Assemble> which is system settings advanced tab
[05:37] <ATHF-Assemble> as for loading screen I'd have to do some research because I don't see it in system settings
[05:37] <tiberius1701> ok i found the longin man
[05:40] <Gioacchino> what about cd image of new release?
[05:45] <ATHF-Assemble> for the loading splash you'll need to install ksplash
[06:05] <HunterSThompson> !register
[06:05] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[06:11] <Frederick> folks does anyone know a good dark theme for kde?
[06:12] <HunterSThompson> high contrast? lol
[06:12] <HunterSThompson> I don't
[06:14] <mot_> anybody know when they're actually uploading the new release to the servers?
[06:14] <mot_> it's past midnight on the east coast and i demand hot, hot 8.04 action.
[06:14] <teradyne> mot_: We're waiting on #ubuntu-release-party for the word to be given.
[06:14] <HunterSThompson> come to #ubuntu-release-party  just don't ask when it's to be released
[06:17] <harolddong> I wish they'd just release it already I'm pooping my pants in anticipation over here
[06:17] <mot_> any reason why if i go into adept manager to upgrade to 8.04 from 7.10 and fetch updates there's no version upgade button?
[06:17] <mot_> just out of curiosity...
[06:17] <sorteal> The release party room is ACTIVE...if u can't read fast don't bother lol
[06:17] <harolddong> I read
[06:17] <harolddong> poop comment stand though
[06:18] <harolddong> there won't be much difference between the RC and the final will there?
[06:18] <HunterSThompson> wouldn't think so
[06:22] <letterman> hey so I just blindly stabbed my way through the installation because ubuntu apparently doesn't include the correct graphics driver for my chipset and I found the fix on the bugs along with a fix, but the file needs me to exit xwindows to install
[06:22] <letterman> unfortunatly I only have the top 25% of the screen
[06:23] <letterman> and I can't blindly find the close x windows and return to console button
[06:23] <letterman> CTRL + ALT + Backspace throw me back into the login screen
[06:23] <letterman> and when I edited the boot command to add init 3
[06:23] <letterman> it still launched me into x windows
[06:23] <letterman> how do I kill xserver from console and return to a command shell?
[06:26] <HunterSThompson> not sure, but from login you can select text-login [sic]
[06:26] <HunterSThompson> should work the same
[06:41] <letterman> I need to support a nvidia GeForce 7050 HD chipset, Is there anything else I can do to fix this? I tried installing the latest drivers from nvidia,Here's the error log: http://www.pastebin.org/31661
[06:56] <calcmandan> Hey guys.  Anyone know how a person can contribute to game ranks on adept installer?
[06:56] <calcmandan> Or it is purely based on number of installs?
[07:05] <calcmandan> Hey guys.  Anyone know how a person can contribute to game ranks on adept installer?
[07:05] <calcmandan> Or it is purely based on number of installs?
[07:05] <HunterSThompson> try #ubuntu-release-party
[07:05] <Jucato> !popcon | calcmandan
[07:05] <ubotu> calcmandan: The Ubuntu Popularity Contest project is an attempt to map the usage of Ubuntu packages. To partecipate, install the package "popularity-contest", and see  http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucasNussbaum/PopconDraft
[07:07] <calcmandan> ubotu: thank you man
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank you man - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <genii> Hmm partecipate
[07:08] <HunterSThompson> I was thinking the same...you'd think a bot would be able to spell correctly
[07:09] <Jucato> genii: fixed. thanks
[07:10] <calcmandan> i didn't know it was a bot
[07:10] <genii> Jucato: np   I'm one of those movie continuity/typo freaks
[07:10] <Jucato> now you do :)
[07:10] <calcmandan> yes.  heh.  now that i'm embarassed.
[07:10] <HunterSThompson> don't sweat it
[07:10] <Jucato> genii: I'm a spelling freak too.. but it's the first time I saw that factoid so...
[07:10] <HunterSThompson> unless it was [sic]
[07:11] <genii> I think the biggest factoid typo I've seen was "cant" instead of "can" in the !lug
[07:11] <genii> Fixed now tho
[07:11] <HunterSThompson> heh
[07:12] <genii> !lug
[07:12] <ubotu> Lug's are Linux User Groups. You can find your local group here: http://www.linux.org/groups/
[07:12] <genii> ^ note previously you "cant" find your user group there :)
[07:12] <HunterSThompson> heh
[07:19] <calcmandan> !vi
[07:19] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code
[07:20] <icewaterman> can someone ping packages.medibuntu.org
[07:20] <icewaterman> ?
[07:20] <Jucato> icewaterman: works fine
[07:21] <calcmandan> no response here
[07:21] <icewaterman> Jucato: hmm, i get unknown host
[07:21] <calcmandan> me too
[07:21] <damien_> Hi, how do I mount my ipod?
[07:22] <calcmandan> !popcorn | damien_
[07:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about popcorn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <Jucato> !ipod | damien_
[07:23] <ubotu> damien_: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod
[07:23] <damien_> Thanks
[07:23] <genii> pings fine here
[07:24] <calcmandan> !RockBox
[07:24] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[07:26] <genii> calcmandan: If you plan to keep doing !factoids, consider doing /msg ubotu hi          Then you can bug him all you want :)
[07:26] <calcmandan> got carried away.
[07:26] <Jucato> !msgthebot | calcmandan
[07:26] <ubotu> calcmandan: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[07:27]  * genii has occasionally been guilty of !botabuse also
[07:31] <empiric> hi all any one works on gosa in kubuntu
[07:33] <genii> empiric: Perhaps they'll know in #kubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-devel
[07:35] <aotianlong> join gnome
[07:37] <sorteal> Wow did I check this page at the wrong time what's with the join GNOME crap!
[07:37] <Lynoure> huh?
[07:37] <Jucato> sorteal: I presume he mistyped the command. calm down :)
[07:38] <genii> sorteal: Lots of ppl here run other window managers
[07:39] <emilsedgh> guys, gnome is not enemy!
[07:39] <jamesmmm> hey there, can anyone pls help me set my nvidia card on?
[07:39] <Jucato> yeah.. emilsedgh is
[07:39] <Jucato> :D
[07:39] <emilsedgh> hehe
[07:39] <Jucato> !nvidia | jamesmmm
[07:39] <ubotu> jamesmmm: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:40] <emilsedgh> jussio1: btw god job on the session management.it was so nice.just...i think you have to update it with 4.1, dont forget to do that when its released
[07:40] <emilsedgh> ah!
[07:40] <emilsedgh> Jucato: ^
[07:40] <emilsedgh> sorry jussio1 :)
[07:40]  * jussi01 whacks emilsedgh
[07:40] <jussi01> :)
[07:40] <Jucato> emilsedgh: sure. but I have to fix the autostart manager in trunk first
[07:41] <emilsedgh> Jucato: its not working?
[07:41] <Jucato> (but I have to test first that it actually works first)
[07:41] <Jucato> emilsedgh: ^^^^
[07:41] <emilsedgh> ah
[07:41] <Jucato> emilsedgh: autostart manager, not session manager
[07:41] <Jucato> it has some... quirks :)
[07:41] <emilsedgh> i think it does.
[07:41] <Jucato> I'll have to check...
[07:44] <Jucato> one disadvantage of Linux/KDE stability is not logging out often... so not being able to test them again and again... so I'll have to do it with a new/separate user :)
[07:46] <emilsedgh> Jucato: i think it will work on release time.also even if it doesnt work, it shouldnt stop you teaching it, because bugs might be everywhere
[07:46] <HunterSThompson>  past
[07:47] <Jucato> emilsedgh: well it's just the tool I'm talking about, the one in System Settings.
[07:47] <Jucato> otherwise, everything works
[07:47] <emilsedgh> Jucato: i know.the new autostart manager which adds 'Scripts' and 'Programs' for autostart
[07:47] <HunterSThompson> hmmm
[07:48] <imo> hi all
[07:48] <HunterSThompson> why di "I" get banned fromt he party?
[07:48] <Jucato> emilsedgh: yep. that port of kcontrol-autostart (which is also bugged in some ways)
[07:48] <harolddong> you were bringing it down
[07:48] <ATHF-Assemble> how so?
[07:48] <harolddong> they said you were just staring at all the girls all creepy
[07:48] <ATHF-Assemble> oh
[07:48] <harolddong> :P
[07:49] <ATHF-Assemble> I can't help the way I look at people
[07:49] <ATHF-Assemble> so is there a certain amount of time I have to wait?
[07:49] <stdin> ATHF-Assemble: you said the "n" word, please join #ubuntu-ops if you want to discuss
[07:49] <stdin> ("n" as in the german political party of WW2 btw)
[08:04] <housito> Hi! The final release its available?
[08:04] <Jucato> see the /topic
[08:04] <housito> Thx Jucato
[08:04] <housito> so today its the day, so strange...
[08:05] <housito> Have a nice day!
[08:10] <jtmoney_> man, who are the losers in #ubuntu-ops?
[08:10] <emilsedgh> /j#ubuntu-release-party
[08:10] <Jucato> emilsedgh: works better if there's a space betweeen j and # :D
[08:10] <jtmoney_> they kickban people from channels for saying things like "steve jobs rapes people on hardware prices"
[08:10] <emilsedgh> ah
[08:10] <jtmoney_> i love ubuntu
[08:10] <jtmoney_> but come on
[08:11] <jtmoney_> this authoritarian, childish nonsense needs to stop
[08:11] <jtmoney_> people like stdin and seveas
[08:11] <emilsedgh> Jucato: my fingers are going mad!
[08:11]  * Jucato sighs...
[08:11] <JackWinter> is there an utility to monitor motherboard and cpu temps?
[08:11] <Jucato> emilsedgh: you made them mad. that's your fault :P
[08:11] <HunterSThompson> ...
[08:11] <HunterSThompson> I think so
[08:11]  * emilsedgh blames himself
[08:12] <stdin> you see that ^ he made the mistake of actually *pinging* me
[08:12]  * Jucato always forgets the names of those monitor thingies
[08:12] <HunterSThompson> conky?
[08:12] <ere4si> !sensors
[08:12] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[08:12] <Jucato> conky, some greklmsdfasf foo... :)
[08:13] <Jucato> lm_sensors (I think...) yeah I forget them :)
[08:13] <HunterSThompson> ah
[08:13] <HunterSThompson> !troll
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <HunterSThompson> !trolling
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trolling - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <trophyhead> hi all = )  well I read you answered my question, not out yet (H.H) = (
[08:14] <JackWinter> ere4si: thanks on my way
[08:16] <trophyhead> seen a final release & got excited, = )  then saw alpha 6 last testing before release = (
[08:17] <trophyhead> is it still supposed to be out sometime today?, I hope!
[08:19] <trophyhead> hello?...is this thing on? lol
[08:19] <jlund> Yes it is, but not yet
[08:19] <Jucato> trophyhead: see the /topic for details
[08:20] <trophyhead> k thx, where do I see topic at?
[08:21] <ere4si> !topic > trophyhead
[08:28] <JackWinter> can i setup konqueror to launch firefox for myspace and youtube ?
[08:28] <nkk> hello everyone....i've just got my new kubuntu cd
[08:28] <jlund> Hey nkk
[08:28] <nkk> i'd like to know what's the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu.. ^^
[08:29] <nkk> i'm ubuntu gutsy right now btw
[08:29] <nkk> *using
[08:29] <ere4si> kubuntu uses kde for the window manager - ubuntu uses gnome - and apps are diff
[08:29] <nkk> yeah i know that...but there's not much difference then?
[08:30] <nkk> which one's .err..better?
[08:30] <ere4si> kde looks diff and the apps are diff
[08:30] <nkk> is it worth removing ubuntu and installing kubuntu?
[08:30] <ere4si> depends on what you like - kde is prettier
[08:30] <nkk> yeah that's what i think XD looks prettier
[08:30] <spq> I'm trying to get sound working on a Medion MD96420 (lspci: 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:284b] (rev 03)) the driver seems to be snd-hda-intel but when loading it i dont get any lines in /proc/asound/cards and dmesg says: http://rafb.net/p/ALVKkL81.html
[08:31] <ovidiu> when the new ubuntu will be released? :D
[08:31] <ere4si> you can install kde desktop on ubuntu and choose it from sessions in the login
[08:31] <nkk> oh that'd be great
[08:31] <ere4si> !isitout | ovidiu
[08:31] <ubotu> ovidiu: The answer is always that it will release when the release manager says so, which is generally down to how exact order of events works out on the day and is hard for anyone (including the release manager) to put an exact time on in advance.  However, rest assured that it will be out before the clock hits 23:59:59 on Baker and Howland Islands.  Until then, please stop asking.
[08:32] <ovidiu> ok
[08:32] <ere4si> ovidiu: it gets asked alot
[08:33] <ovidiu> ok :)
[08:33] <ovidiu> i understand
[08:33] <ere4si> :)
[08:33] <nkk> one more question...what is Konqueror? XD
[08:33] <JackWinter> nkk: i think kde is fabulous.  don't have much experience with gnome, but the user interface integration is just fantastic in kde!
[08:33] <ovidiu> A web browser
[08:33] <nkk> like firefox?
[08:33] <ovidiu> yes
[08:34] <nkk> and what's nautilus then?
[08:34] <nexus> filebrowser
[08:34] <ovidiu> a file manager
[08:34] <nkk> like windows explorer?
[08:34] <stdin> konqueror is a web browser/file manager/ftp client/network searcher/etc/etc
[08:34] <ovidiu> yes
[08:34] <nkk> whoa..multiple usages
[08:34] <stdin> konqueror is every tool you ever wanted and then some
[08:34] <stdin> :p
[08:34] <ovidiu> of course, like stdin say, konqueror have a lot of funtions
[08:34] <stdin> oh, and it's a file reader/viewer
[08:35] <stdin> hmm, it'd probably be easier to say what konqueror isn't than what it is
[08:35] <nkk> hehe :P
[08:35] <stdin> it's not a toaster, there :)
[08:35] <JackWinter> nkk: i think that konqueror is one of the best things in kde.  i have one browser and one set of bookmarks and it doesn't matter if it's a local file or an url...  pity they are gonna drop it in kde 4...
[08:35] <ovidiu> :))
[08:35] <sorteal> A good web browser
[08:35] <nkk> is it as ram hog as firefox? :P
[08:36] <mickymouse> hello any news what time 8.04 will be out?
[08:36] <ovidiu> :))
[08:36] <ovidiu> again that question...
[08:36] <nkk> there they go again XD
[08:36] <stdin> JackWinter: it's not dropped, the file managing part is moved to dolphin but it still retains functionality
[08:36] <mickymouse> sorry
[08:36]  * HunterSThompson wishes everyone a good night/morning.
[08:36] <ovidiu> what's the time in Baker and Howland Islands?
[08:36] <harolddong> konqueror is cool but nothing really beats firefox's extensibility
[08:36] <ovidiu> :D
[08:36] <nkk> maybe someone can put that in "Topic"?
[08:36] <mickymouse> just had to ask
[08:37] <mickymouse> ;)
[08:37] <nexus> firefox isint a ram hog
[08:37] <nexus> especially 3
[08:37] <nkk> well it is on windows i think :P
[08:37] <harolddong> yeah 3 is actually really awesome
[08:37] <JackWinter> stdin: ok as i understood they will replace file browsing with dolphin and web browsing with firefox..?
[08:37] <stdin> as if anyone actually READS the topic anyway...
[08:37] <nkk> someone might :P
[08:38] <nkk> and that'd be one question less? :)
[08:38] <harolddong> and I gotta say I like dolphin way better than konqueror as a file browser
[08:38] <stdin> JackWinter: what? no. konqueror is still the browser and can be used as the file manager, it just used the dolphin kpart
[08:38] <nkk> now you're confusing me
[08:38] <ere4si> !dolphin
[08:38] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[08:39] <nkk> what shell does kubuntu use?
[08:39] <stdin> bash
[08:39] <Jucato> BASH
[08:39] <JackWinter> stdin: thank god.  then all i need is to be able to set K up to use firefox for certain urls...
[08:39] <nkk> ah that's same as ubuntu ..good
[08:39] <Jucato> nkk: under the hood, Kubuntu uses Ubuntu
[08:39] <stdin> nkk: they both use the same base
[08:39] <nkk> hmm
[08:39] <nkk> does kubuntu have/support pidgin??
[08:40] <stdin> ubuntu + gnome is what's commonly known as "ubuntu", ubuntu + kde is Kubuntu
[08:40] <Jucato> nkk: if you install it
[08:40] <ovidiu> it support pidgin
[08:40] <ovidiu> but you need to install it
[08:40] <nkk> great
[08:40] <nkk> that can be done
[08:40] <stdin> kopete is the default IM app
[08:40] <Jucato> nkk: anything Ubuntu has, Kubuntu has, and vice versa. just not installed by default
[08:40] <ere4si> it has konversation for chat
[08:40] <nkk> it supports Irc as well right?
[08:40] <nkk> Konversation
[08:41] <ovidiu> what are the system requirement for xubuntu?
[08:41] <stdin> konversation is only an IRC client ;)
[08:41] <nkk> oops :P
[08:41] <harolddong> kopete beats the panties off pidgin
[08:41] <nkk> Kopete supports everything like pidgin then?
[08:41] <harolddong> this has been medically proven
[08:41] <nkk> hehe
[08:42] <stdin> kopete probably supports more than pidgin
[08:42] <stdin> it's like konqueror, it's an Über app
[08:42] <JackWinter> ktorrent is great to.  am getting a knoppix dvd dright now.
[08:42] <ovidiu> kopete support webcams, but Pidgin
[08:42] <nkk> gee...i've got to try out Kubuntu now XD
[08:42] <harolddong> seriously after you use kopete pidgin seems almost like alpha level software
[08:42] <nkk> yeah i use Ktorrent in Ubuntu
[08:43] <JackWinter> just started using kmail, and seems to be  a super app too...
[08:44] <nkk> hmm that'd be like thunderbird right?
[08:44] <nkk> no pop3
[08:44] <JackWinter> nkk: it has pop3 and imap.
[08:44] <nkk> no..i mean i don't have a pop3 email id
[08:44] <JackWinter> nkk: supports encryption too...
[08:44] <stdin> kmail is the mail client (as if you couldn't guess), and like most KDE app, it supports just about every protocol
[08:45] <JackWinter> nkk: so you use webmail?
[08:45] <nkk> ah..u people know so much about this..have u contributed to the project?
[08:45] <nkk> webmail? what do u mean by that?...i just log on to the website like yahoo and log in
[08:45] <harolddong> kontact is cool but I just wish I could  use it with web mail like I can with thunderbird
[08:45] <JackWinter> nkk: just a very satisfied noob ;)
[08:46] <nkk> :)
[08:46] <stdin> being in #kubuntu and answering questions is contribution
[08:46] <the4400> Hey guys. I'm having trouble with my dual-screen. It has been working for a long time, but sometimes when I unplug things to use a projector, I cannot get more than one screen working again afterwards.. not sure what happens
[08:46] <nkk> yea but i mean in context of programming..
[08:47] <nkk> one last question..then i've to run :P....can i "uninstall" Ubuntu?
[08:47] <nkk> i don't think it's possible..but..maybe
[08:47] <stdin> !purekde
[08:47] <ubotu> purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[08:47] <nkk> whoa
[08:48] <the4400> in addition, if I go to system settings -> monitor and display, I cannot save "dual screen" checkbox for some reason.. I can check it if I open in admin mode, but the change doesn't stick even if I click "apply"
[08:48] <nkk> what will happen to the libs?
[08:48] <stdin> nkk: unless an app needs it, they will be removed.
[08:49] <nkk> hrmm..so i'll have to download some of them again..
[08:49] <nkk> alright gotta run
[08:49] <nkk> bbl
[08:49] <stdin> no, just remove the apps you want from the command shown and it'll keep them
[08:49] <nkk> thanks for the help
[08:49] <nkk> oh ok
[08:49] <nkk> i'll look into it when i'm back from uni
[08:50]  * nkk bookmarks it
[08:52] <Gioacchino> hello
[08:52] <Gioacchino> herdy iso is out ?
[08:52] <max> I need to view the total number of row in a 10 file txt, how I can do this in shell?
[08:54] <the4400> is there a way to get my "Monitor and Display" settings back to default or something?
[08:54] <the4400> I'm not able to change them at all right now..
[08:54] <JackWinter> i'm gonna have to reinstall xp on my multiboot system.  i know i can reinstall grub by running "sudo grub-install /dev/hda" from the live cd.  but say i have kubuntu on sda6 and ubuntu on sda7 how does grub know where to look for menu.lst ?
[08:55] <stdin> Gioacchino: /topic
[08:57] <Gioacchino> not out...
[09:02] <ovidiu> What's mean LTS? Long term support?
[09:02] <genii> Yes
[09:02] <ovidiu> and there is a difference between the standard version and LTS version?
[09:02] <ovidiu> or there will be just a LTS version?
[09:03] <stdin> Kubuntu won't be LTS this time around
[09:03] <Kai> hey guys, with ubuntu it dispays the network folders etc withoutmapping  the drive can i setup kubuntu to do the same?
[09:03] <ovidiu> ok
[09:03] <stdin> Kai: smb:/ doesn't do that?
[09:04] <TeslaTony> stdin: Is that because of the KDE3 vs. KDE4 issues?
[09:04] <stdin> TeslaTony: partially
[09:04] <Kai> atm i was going thru the file manager stdin and it only has option to map a drive before i can access it
[09:04] <genii> ovidiu: Regular ubuntu will be 3 year support and updates (server 5 years). Which overlaps next LTS 1 year (hopefully) when projected release of it 10.04  (2010 April)
[09:05] <stdin> TeslaTony: canonical decided that it could not guarantee kde3 would be actively maintained for the duration of the LTS term
[09:05] <ovidiu> and what's mean support? there will be updates available for Hardy version for 3 years?
[09:06] <stdin> Kai: in konqueror remote:/ or smb:/ (dolphin should do it to actually)
[09:06] <stdin> ovidiu: security updates and commercial support contracts
[09:08] <Kai> stdin: sorry, im at dolphin / network where would i go from here
[09:08] <ovidiu> If I have installed an ubuntu-based distribution
[09:08] <ovidiu> and after that I installed "kubuntu-desktop" from repositoryes
[09:08] <stdin> Kai: there should be "Network Services" and "Samba Shares"
[09:08] <ovidiu> what I should download for update? the kubuntu iso or the distribution iso?
[09:08] <genii> ovidiu: EOL for Hardy will be April 2011 (no more updates, etc) more info on EOL of all versions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[09:09] <stdin> ovidiu: upgrade instructions will be posted here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes when Hardy is released
[09:09] <Kai> theere is stdin
[09:09] <genii> !helpersnack | stdin
[09:09] <ovidiu> aha... ok, thanks for info ;)
[09:09] <ubotu> stdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[09:10] <Kai> stdin: under both there is nothing listed
[09:10] <stdin> Kai: samba is the network shares I think you mean, nfs shares should be in the network services one though
[09:11] <Kai> must be something wrong with my shared files then though i can map to them fine
[09:11] <stdin> not sure then, I see a list of workgroups and then computers
[09:12] <Kai> ubuntu just pickd them up right away,
[09:12] <Kai> hmmm
[09:12] <Kai> thanks for ur input stdin
[09:12] <stdin> there's always smbtree from the terminal ;)
[09:13] <Kai> sorry second day usin linux nfi how to do that atm
[09:13] <Kai> :p
[09:13] <stdin> KMenu -> System -> Konsole
 thanks for ur input stdin <--- lol! that just sounds so strange :)
[09:13] <stdin> that opens the terminal
[09:13] <Kai> yea i know terminal
[09:14] <stdin> type in "smbtree" and whatever password your user uses on the net
[09:14] <Kai> ok
[09:14] <stdin> you can use "smbtree -N" if you don't need a pass
[09:14] <dreamcoder> when is 8.04 final released
[09:15] <stdin> then it should list services
[09:15] <Jucato> dreamcoder: please read the /topic
[09:15] <Kai> ok cool
[09:15] <dreamcoder> oh yeah cheers
[09:17] <Gioacchino> for hardy kvirc try icon is fixed(in gutsy is too much big)??
[09:20] <Gioacchino> for hardy kvirc try icon is fixed(in gutsy is too much big)??
[09:21] <ovidiu> i don't think that this bug is a Ubuntu bug
[09:21] <ovidiu> this is a kvirc bug
[09:21] <Gioacchino> yes
[09:21] <cemil> cemil12316] --> 16]1,iiş,şşşşşşşşşşşşş16] --> 16] --> 16] --> 16] --> 16] --> 6] --> 16] --> 16] -->  -->
[09:22] <genii> hmm
[09:22] <Gioacchino> but gutsy kvirc
[09:23] <Gioacchino> is 3.2.4
[09:23] <Gioacchino> latest kvirc is 3.4.0
[09:27] <freeblowed> hey did 8.04 kde 4 come out yet?
[09:27] <Jucato> freeblowed: the same time as 8.04 kde 3. see the/topic for details
[09:27] <max> I see with dolphin my landisk (dolphin->networkdevices->landisk), how I can access to this landisk from my linux shell?
[09:27] <ovidiu> we can hope for a KDE 3.6 version?
[09:28] <Jucato> ovidiu: no
[09:28] <ovidiu> or kde 3.5.9 is the latest version from the kde 3.x series?
[09:28] <Jucato> yes
[09:28] <ovidiu> ok
[09:28] <Jucato> and probably the last
[09:28] <freeblowed> i thought it was supposed to be out today
[09:28] <freeblowed> someone in here told me to just wait to download since it was being released today
[09:29] <Jucato> "today" has quite a big span of time.... considering timezones and working hours. so /topic again :)
[09:29] <ovidiu> so the next release of Kubuntu (not 8.04) will be KDE 4 based?
[09:29] <stdin> it will be out today, yes
[09:29] <freeblowed> he said within 10 hours
[09:29] <stdin> ovidiu: there will be two
[09:29] <kaminix> "GStreamer-0.10 plugin 'level' not found. This plugins is absolutely required. Please install it." <-- It says it's in the package gstreamer0.10-plugins-good which I have installed, now what? :s
[09:29] <ovidiu> for how much time?
[09:29] <max> I see with dolphin my landisk (dolphin->networkdevices->landisk), how I can access to this landisk from my linux shell?
[09:29] <Jucato> stdin: for 8.10?
[09:30] <stdin> oh "not 8.04" :p
[09:30] <freeblowed> so instead of that long crap about the topic you could have just said no, not till later today or just no
[09:30] <stdin> probably not then
[09:30]  * Jucato sighs...
[09:32] <max> I see with dolphin my landisk (dolphin->networkdevices->landisk), how I can access to this landisk from my linux shell?
[09:33] <stdin> max: please don't repeat, if someone knows they will answer
[09:34] <ovidiu> it is any way to make qt3 application to look like qt4 applications?
[09:34] <max> nobody no that things?
[09:37] <HunterSThompson> >:(
[09:37] <Jackubus> hmm, i made a mistake when i installed my system.  created a 100mb instead of a 10gb partition for sharing data between multiple os'.  i am resizing and moving data with gparted from a live cd.  all my linux partitions live in an extended partition.  please tell me that i can resize the extended partitition in order to grow a primary partition...
[09:39] <HunterSThompson> how might one make a disk image for use on another computer
[09:40] <sparr_> konqueror seems to truncate css percentage widths to integer percentages.  known bug?
[09:40] <Jackubus> or do you know a good channel for asking about repartitioning?
[09:42] <TeslaTony> Jackubus: The Ubuntu 7.10 LiveCD (and I assume the 8.04 as well) has GParted. If you boot to livecd you can repartition the drive without (usually) screwing things up
[09:43] <TeslaTony> Jackubus: You can also download a GParted LiveCD to repartition things
[09:43] <TeslaTony> Just...back things up...seriously
[09:44] <Pennycook> Hey guys, just preparing for the upgrade to Hardy and weighing up KDE4 against 3.59; has anybody had much luck changing the looks of GTK apps yet in KDE4?
[09:45] <ere4si> #kubuntu-kde4 might be the place to ask that
[09:46] <Jackubus> TeslaTony: i have booted from a live cd and am repartitioning as we speak.  it's a new installation so nothing to lose really.  have all the data on other disks.  was hoping to avoid reinstalling...  the thing is i don't know if it will allow me to shrink a secondary partition?
[09:46] <Jackubus> TeslaTony: secondary=extended
[09:46] <Pennycook> ere4si: Ah, didn't realise there was a channel. Thanks.
[09:46] <ere4si> k
[09:47] <DarkriftX> anyone know if there will be a way for me to use a script to read my paypal information?
[09:47] <TeslaTony> Jackubus: I think so. If it won't work, I'm pretty sure it just won't let you
[09:48] <DarkriftX> not really asking how, just if its possible
[09:49] <Jackubus> TeslaTony: looks like i'm looking at several hours repartitioning, might be faster to reinstall, but on the other hand this install included alot of irc and  googling.  would be bad to spend hours just to find out i have to reinstall anyways ;)
[09:50] <TeslaTony> Jackubus: When I first built this computer I must've reinstalled a dozen times. Coulda sworn I was doing it for fun, it's so easy...
[09:53] <Jackubus> TeslaTony: oh well , there is firefox and internet radio. will explore gnome while i pass the time ;)
[09:56] <TeslaTony> Jackubus: I think the liveCD also has Pidgin, which will let you on most of the big IM clients. Certainly take this opportunity to send obscene messages to UN ambassadors
[10:00] <advanced> Hi ppl
[10:00] <advanced> I need help :)
[10:00] <ere4si> !ask advanced
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask advanced - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <ere4si> !ask | advanced
[10:00] <ubotu> advanced: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[10:00] <advanced> hmmm
[10:00] <advanced> :(
[10:00] <max> I see with dolphin my landisk (dolphin->networkdevices->landisk), how I can access to this landisk from my linux shell?
[10:01] <advanced> !compiz
[10:01] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[10:02] <advanced> I have problem with C-Media sound cart...
[10:03] <advanced> *card
[10:04] <advanced> My sound doesnt work...only drty sound
[10:08] <tony134340> max, are you using samba?
[10:09] <tony134340> advanced, have you checked for compatibility with linux?
[10:12] <advanced> Hmm but this card is really stupid...because in Windows dont work too....only when i get volume in WIN to "0" my sound work but only with  small wheeze
[10:12] <wesley> stdin: can plasma themes be installed in 4.0.3
[10:12] <U_Dinlow> how do i get my video card to use restricted drivers? theres no option for it?
[10:13] <stdin> wesley: if the themes are for 4.0.x then they should
[10:13] <tony134340> U_Dinlow, if nothing else, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new and so on
[10:14] <tony134340> advanced, have you checked the manufacturer's site for proper drivers or to see if it's supported on the OS?
[10:15] <advanced> yes
[10:15] <wesley> stdin: KDE 4.x stands there and i ont believe in the 4.0 series you can install plasma themes
[10:16] <tony134340> #wine
[10:16] <stdin> wesley: try it and see ;) should work
[10:16] <tony134340> oops, still getting the hang of irc
[10:16] <wesley> stdin: i dont know where to put those plasma themes
[10:17] <Shaisuke> hey for 8.04 is compiz enabled by default or can you install it?
[10:17] <U_Dinlow> shouldn't  i have restricted drivers optioon under advanced though?
[10:17] <stdin> wesley: try ~/.kde4/share/apps/plasma or ~/.kde4/share/apps/plasma/themes
[10:18] <tony134340> U_Dinlow, The latest alpha I tried of Kubuntu didn't have the option either. I just used the graphical apt-get and installed from that
[10:18] <Brian_> hi. Is kubuntu 8.04 has the KDE4>
[10:18] <Brian_> ?
[10:19] <rakan> yup the RC release has KDE 4
[10:19] <rakan> actually there are 2 releases for Kubuntu
[10:19] <tony134340> Brian_, yes, you can choose either KDE4 or 3, or both
[10:19] <rakan> 1 with KDE 3.5.x and the other with KDE 4
[10:19] <Brian_> I am requesting from ShipIt
[10:19] <Brian_> which one will I receive
[10:20] <Jucato> KDE 3.5.9
[10:20] <stdin> shipit sends KDE3 disks
[10:20] <wesley> stdin: home or usr/share??
[10:20] <Jucato> !khardy
[10:20] <ubotu> Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 3 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported
[10:21] <U_Dinlow> this card was working though :(  now somethings broken it and I can only use vesa driver (my monitor is detected as p&p and can only get 640x480)
[10:21] <stdin> wesley: ~ is your home dir
[10:21] <Brian_> Can I hi all. can i shit xux
[10:21] <Brian_> Cls
[10:21] <Brian_> sorry
[10:21] <Brian_> I'm mistype.
[10:21] <Brian_> Oh, so how can I get KDE 4?
[10:22] <stdin> download the KDE4 ISO (when it's released) or install the kubuntu-kde4-desktop package from a default Hardy install
[10:22] <Brian_> I have a plan, if ShipIt sends KDE4 I will install Kubuntu, but ShipIt sends KDE3 - so I will install Ubuntu instead.
[10:22] <Brian_> oh.
[10:22] <Brian_> is kubuntu-kde4-desktop included in the CD?
[10:22] <stdin> no
[10:22] <wesley>  /home/wesley/.kde4/share/apps/plasma_engine_comic
[10:22] <wesley> thats what i only find
[10:23] <Brian_> How can I get kubuntu-kde4-desktop package?
[10:23] <stdin> wesley: try just making the ~/.kde4/share/apps/plasma dir and see
[10:23] <stdin> Brian_: you install it like any other package
[10:24] <Brian_> no. I mean, how can I get kubuntu-kde4-desktop package? by download or included in CD?
[10:24] <wesley> stdin and then extract the theme there ?
[10:24] <Jucato> Brian_: if you downloaded/got the KDE 3 CD, you'll have to download it
[10:25] <stdin> wesley: try it and see
[10:25] <Jucato> download it = kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[10:25] <U_Dinlow> heres my xorg.conf when it was working .... (if someone can look :) ) ... http://pastebin.com/m5052227b
[10:26] <tony134340> Brian_, yes, you can download a cd with kde4 pre-configured
[10:26] <U_Dinlow> i dont know why it  wont workk now
[10:27] <wesley> stdin now restart kde4 ?
[10:27] <stdin> logout/in I guess
[10:27] <empiric> helo i want to send sms from command line
[10:27] <Jucato> (or restart just plasma?)
[10:27] <Brian_> @jucato : Is kubuntu-kde4-desktop package big? Because I only had limited bandwidth (384 Kilobits/second OR 40 Kilobytes per second)
[10:27] <Fyl0n> it's SO quiet here :)
[10:27] <empiric> hi all
[10:27] <empiric> i want to send sms from command
[10:27] <Jucato> Brian_: well, that package itself is not that big, but it will download lots of other packages
[10:27] <empiric> any idea
[10:30] <wesley> nothing changed
[10:31] <Gioacchino> hello
[10:31] <Gioacchino> somebody know if kdelirc work on kde4 ?
[10:31] <wesley> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/TiComb?content=76628  this thev theme i like to ninstall
[10:32] <Odd-rationale> Gioacchino: all kde 3 apps should work on kde4. and vice versa
[10:32] <Gioacchino> thanks
[10:34] <Fleck> hey will AMD64 kubuntu work on intel quad core?
[10:35] <stdin> yes
[10:35] <tony403> Fleck, yes, it will. i use it on my quad
[10:36] <seebs> Is there an easy shorthand for "for every thing installed that has a developer package, install the corresponding development package"?
[10:36] <seebs> I want to build WINE, and it can't find the development files for about two dozen things, and I am not sure how to guess the right names in some cases.
[10:37] <stdin> seebs: "sudo apt-get build-dep wine"
[10:37] <stdin> build-dep = install the build-dependencies
[10:37] <seebs> Oh, nice.  That will probably work, even though I won't actually be building from the repository (because it is, sadly, not quite perfectly up to date.)
[10:38] <seebs> Thanks!  Very helpful, and I will remember that trick in future.
[10:38] <sigma_1234> i can't wait anymore. whens it going to be out!
[10:38] <Fleck> tony403, stdin thanks :) how about flash/java in 64 bit version?
[10:38] <seebs> Apparently, the folks who have been distributing WINE binaries for ubuntu/kubuntu decided to switch to only updating them for 8.04, and I'm not quite ready to upgrade.
[10:39] <tony403> Fleck, was no problem for me. it just needs the ndiswrapper
[10:39] <stdin> Fleck: you'll have to use the 32bit version of firefox to use flash and the java plugin
[10:39] <Fleck> ok :) thanks
[10:39] <stdin> there's a guide somewhere I think
[10:39] <stdin> !flash64
[10:39] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[10:39] <Fleck> yep
[10:39] <stdin> ^ there :)
[10:39] <Fleck> thanks
[10:40] <ovidiu> if I forgot my root account password, is there any mode to recovery it?
[10:40] <ovidiu> or to change it...
[10:40] <tony403> Fleck, yes, stdin's correct. it works on Kubuntu64 but not on FF64, IIRC
[10:40] <kaminix> I need an application to make .srts out of vobsubs. I've heard mplayer is supposed to get this done, but how?
[10:40] <stdin> ovidiu: there is no root pass by default
[10:41] <ovidiu> yes, but I don't say about the Live CD
[10:41] <ovidiu> somebody have installed linux on his computer
[10:41] <ovidiu> and he forgot the root password
[10:41] <stdin> yes, there's no root pass by default
[10:41] <stdin> ubuntu and kubuntu use sudo
[10:41] <ovidiu> and he can't login no more on his pc
[10:41] <stdin> !sudo
[10:41] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[10:42] <ovidiu> yes, I know about sudo
[10:42] <ovidiu> but I talk about an installed linux sistem on a pc, not about the Live CD
[10:42] <stdin> ovidiu: yes, on the installed system there is no root password
[10:43] <ovidiu> ok
[10:43] <ovidiu> thanks
[10:43] <micha__> ovidiu: still has sudo, as long as he is in the admin role, he can use it
[10:43] <ovidiu> but if the user doesn't know his own password, and he can't log in into kde?
[10:43] <ovidiu> there's anything to do?
[10:44] <sonoftheclayr> is there anyway to monitor ssh connections in real time?
[10:44] <stdin> they can boot into recovery mode and reset their password with "passwd <username>"
[10:54] <arogarth> hello
[10:54] <arogarth> ive got a problem with kubuntu 8.04
[10:54] <arogarth> my notebook wont to shutdown or reboot
[10:55] <arogarth> halt, poweroff, reboot etc are working
[10:55] <arogarth> any idea where the problem is?
[10:55] <yakuzi> arogarth: is it the final? or still the rc? because the final isn't out yet :p
[10:55] <micha__> init works?
[10:56] <micha__> arogarth: try "sudo init 0"
[10:56] <arogarth> is an rc upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04
[10:56] <arogarth> i will try
[10:56] <eagles0513875> is the best place to get 3.5.9 kde source code the repos or kde.org
[10:59] <arogarth> it works
[10:59] <arogarth> but it wont work by K-> Logout->Shutdown
[11:00] <arogarth> makes a black screen (no coursor etc.)
[11:00] <arogarth> and i cant change to console
[11:04] <arogarth> no more idea??
[11:06] <ovidiu> what is the package name for koqnueror's metabar?
[11:06] <ovidiu> or how I install it?
[11:07] <arogarth> i think konq-plugins
[11:08] <ovidiu> yes, that is
[11:09] <ovidiu> thanks, arogarth
[11:10] <arogarth> np
[11:17] <sebbar> hi, has anybody purchased eschalon? I'd like to know if I can install the game on more than one pc...
[11:19] <arogarth> micha__: init 0 works
[11:19] <micha__> arogarth: with sudo only?
[11:20] <arogarth> must it run also as normal user??
[11:20] <micha__> arogarth: it shouldnt
[11:20] <arogarth> ok, need to be root
[11:20] <micha__> arogarth: looks like you dont have the rights to do a reboot, shotdown or so
[11:21] <micha__> arogarth: I am not sure where to do this, anyone?
[11:22] <arogarth> hmmm....
[11:36] <christophoros> helo guys for some reason i cant detect my mobile phone or any other mobile phone device from the kubuntu i just installed them i use bluetooth OBEX object push any ideas?
[11:43] <ScorpKing> hmm... kubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso 23-Apr-2008 03:06  697M
[11:43]  * ScorpKing waits some more for 8.04..
[11:43] <christophoros> helo guys for some reason i cant detect my mobile phone or any other mobile phone device from the kubuntu i just installed them i use bluetooth OBEX object push any ideas?
[11:45] <ScorpKing> christophoros: dmesg | tail when you plug it in and look there. it's usually /dev/ttyACM0
[11:47] <localuser> anyone have any luck installing pulseaudio on kubuntu 8.04?
[11:47] <arogarth> ok, i have tried something
[11:47] <christophoros> ScorpKing am new to linux world can u help me a bit more?:P
[11:47] <arogarth> i cant also logout
[11:48] <arogarth> and i cant restart the xserver by str+alt+backsp
[11:48] <arogarth> but all function works with the open ati driver but not with the fglrx
[11:48] <ScorpKing> christophoros: sure. what are you trying?
[11:48] <arogarth> i have tried the driver from the respnsitory and the new driver from the ati homepage
[11:49] <arogarth> its a X700 Mobile
[11:49] <christophoros> am using a laptop and it has bluetooth on bnoard am trying to transfer a picture from my mobile phone to the laptop i just dont know what to do
[11:49] <christophoros> :S
[11:49] <arogarth> does the bluetooth device works?
[11:49] <arogarth> see the bluetooth symbol in the taskbar
[11:49] <ScorpKing> uhm.. i use a usb cable so i'm not sure how that works
[11:50] <christophoros> cant see anythink on the taskbar how do i enable it?
[11:50] <arogarth> i look
[11:50] <arogarth> install kdebluetooth
[11:51] <christophoros> sudo apt-get install kdebluetooth
[11:51] <christophoros> right ?
[11:51] <arogarth> yes
[11:52] <christophoros> kdebluetooth is already the newest version.
[11:52] <christophoros> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[11:52] <christophoros> i have it
[11:52] <arogarth> what are the 4 not upgraded
[11:52] <arogarth> they were list
[11:52] <christophoros> i upgraded now
[11:53] <christophoros> what i do now?;p
[11:53] <arogarth> reinstert the bluetooth device
[11:54] <arogarth> then a symbol must come in the bar
[11:54] <christophoros> it on board
[11:54] <christophoros> its*
[11:54] <christophoros> its only 1 button on my laptop bluetooth + wireless
[11:54] <arogarth> hmm, reactivate it if u can
[11:54] <christophoros> thats what i dont know how i do it;p
[11:54] <christophoros> activate it
[11:56] <arogarth> there must now be a bluetooth symbol?!
[11:57] <arogarth> is there?
[12:03] <crvenkapa> hi
[12:04] <Odd-rationale> crvenkapa: hello
[12:04] <crvenkapa> whats up
[12:04] <christophoros> arogath nothere isnt any><
[12:04] <crvenkapa> why
[12:05] <crvenkapa> people where are you
[12:05] <Odd-rationale> crvenkapa: at the party!
[12:05] <crvenkapa> can i come
[12:05] <crvenkapa> pls
[12:06] <Odd-rationale>  /join #ubuntu-release-party
[12:06] <Fleck> ;p
[12:06] <crvenkapa> how old are you
[12:06] <Odd-rationale> very old
[12:07] <crvenkapa> 100 year maby
[12:07] <crvenkapa> i have 18
[12:07] <Odd-rationale> wow. your old
[12:07] <crvenkapa> u
[12:08] <crvenkapa> hey
[12:08] <Odd-rationale> what?
[12:08] <aotianlong_> ....
[12:08] <arogarth> ok, at my problem the kdm.log tells: Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server
[12:09] <crvenkapa> you dont tell about your years
[12:09] <aotianlong_> can u start x server?
[12:09] <Odd-rationale> crvenkapa: ;)
[12:09] <arogarth> yes it run, but i cant kill them
[12:09] <arogarth> i cant logout/shutdown/reboot on kde
[12:10] <crvenkapa> :)
[12:10] <aotianlong_> i'm also have this problem on gnome.
[12:10] <arogarth> with fglrx driver?
[12:10] <crvenkapa> hey
[12:11] <arogarth> crvenkapa: hey
[12:14] <christophoros> christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$ hcitool inq
[12:14] <christophoros> Inquiring ...
[12:14] <christophoros> Inquiry failed.: No such device
[12:14] <christophoros> christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$
[12:14] <christophoros> arogath got any ideas for this?
[12:15] <arogarth> no idea...
[12:17] <arogarth> what does dmesg tell??
[12:18] <sivaji> Hardy is out
[12:19] <Odd-rationale> it is not official yet. better to wait
[12:20] <sivaji> Odd-rationale see this http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> sivaji: not officially
[12:20] <Odd-rationale> i know
[12:20] <stdin> just so we're all clear, no links
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> sivaji: and the ubuntu guys don't seem happy about people posting links all over the place
[12:20] <Odd-rationale> stdin: should have warned him first. it isn't even the topic...
[12:21] <Odd-rationale> this topic...
[12:21] <stdin> Odd-rationale: /remove is quite an effective warning I find
[12:21] <stdin> Odd-rationale: plus I'm spread across several channels
[12:22] <sivaji> who kicked me out of this channel ?
[12:22] <Odd-rationale> sivaji: please don't post links to the release until it is officially announced. Thanks!
[12:23] <Odd-rationale> this applies to all ubuntu channels...
[12:25] <christophoros> when i download a driver how do i install it?
[12:25] <SlimeyPete> depends on the driver.
[12:25] <SlimeyPete> what driver is it?
[12:26] <l337n00b> hello! Does ne know when the kubuntu hardy upgrade will be available?
[12:26] <Odd-rationale> l337n00b: soon
[12:26] <christophoros> am trying to find a driver for my on board bluetooth
[12:26] <SlimeyPete> they're prepping the release as we speak
[12:27] <arogarth> which bluetooth device tells lspci
[12:29] <christophoros> arogath http://paste.ubuntu.com/7931/
[12:30] <sivaji> Odd-rationale how do you say that ubuntu 8.04 has not offically released ? i can download from ubuntu offical website
[12:31] <makdaknife> sivaji: as far as I can see you can only download the RC from the site
[12:31] <stdin> sivaji: the images can still change
[12:31] <stdin> so, do not download them
[12:32] <kb> how can i update to hard heron?
[12:32] <arogarth> christophoros: what tells lsusb??
[12:32] <stdin> wait until it's released then see !upgrade
[12:34] <kb> stdin:  i think its already released??
[12:34] <christophoros> larogath http://paste.ubuntu.com/7932/
[12:34] <kb> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/8.04/
[12:34] <kb> why can i download a desktop cd there
[12:34] <stdin> kb: NO
[12:34] <stdin> do NOT post links!
[12:34] <kb> whats the matter at the moment?
[12:34] <stdin> do it again and you'll be removed
[12:35] <stdin> hardy is not released yet and the images can change
[12:35] <kb> i dont understand whats going on :(
[12:35] <kb> ok
[12:35] <kb> just what i wanna know!
[12:35] <kb> the topic is irreführend
[12:35] <stdin> all you do is wait bandwidth and give people possibly bad ISOs
[12:35] <arogarth> dont know where the dongle is...
[12:35] <arogarth> wait
[12:35] <christophoros> arogath my bluetooth is on board
[12:36] <arogarth> yes
[12:36] <christophoros> dont know whats worng :/
[12:36] <arogarth> notebook?? which??
[12:36] <makdaknife> out of interest if you have a question about hardy do you still have to ask in #ubuntu+1?
[12:37] <stdin> for the moment
[12:37] <makdaknife> :-)
[12:37] <christophoros> arogath : Toshiba Sattelite A200 1MB
[12:43] <christophoros> arogath found anythink ?
[12:45] <arogarth> im looking
[12:45] <christophoros> alright
[12:46] <christophoros> arogath i think its the same drivers with sattelite p200 p100  not sure
[12:46] <arogarth> run kbluetooth
[12:47] <arogarth> K->System->kbluetooth
[12:47] <christophoros> done it
[12:47] <christophoros> it says "no bluetooth adapter
[12:47] <arogarth> hmm... bad
[12:48] <arogarth> i will know which menufactor it is... of the bluetooth
[12:48] <christophoros> what u mean
[12:49] <arogarth> the producer of the bluetooth device
[12:50] <arogarth> run sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
[12:51] <ovidiu> Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[12:51] <ovidiu> what's means that?
[12:51] <christophoros> christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
[12:51] <christophoros> [sudo] password for christophoros:
[12:51] <christophoros>  * Starting Bluetooth services
[12:51] <christophoros>    ...done.
[12:51] <christophoros> christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$
[12:51] <arogarth> hcitool inq
[12:51] <arogarth> ??
[12:51] <arogarth> now??
[12:52] <christophoros> christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$ hcitool inq
[12:52] <christophoros> Inquiring ...
[12:52] <christophoros> Inquiry failed.: No such device
[12:52] <christophoros> christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~$
[12:53] <arogarth> hmm...
[12:53] <arogarth> i dont know more now
[12:54] <arogarth> maybe here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Toshiba_Satellite_A200#Bluetooth
[12:55] <arogarth> christophoros: http://www.schwieters.org/toshset/
[12:55] <christophoros> yeah i found it too but i dont know how i work it
[12:57] <christophoros> i have to get the source not the binary right ?
[12:57] <arogarth> The binary should work with 2.4 and 2.6 Linux kernels. It may work for others as well.
[12:57] <arogarth>  toshset -h for help. Patches, comments and the output of toshset -v -q are welcome.
[12:58] <christophoros> so ill get the binary;p
[12:59] <christophoros> how do i install it ?:S am noob and new to linux world><
[12:59] <arogarth> on console
[12:59] <arogarth> unpach it
[13:00] <arogarth> unpack^^
[13:01] <christophoros> unpack toshet.gz ?:/
[13:04] <arogarth> gunzip ./toshset.gz
[13:05] <christophoros> nothink happent ><
[13:06] <christophoros> ow its unpacked now but how i use it ? its on the desktop and when i press on it it tell me to choose with what program shall it start
[13:06] <arogarth> on console: chmod +x toshset
[13:06] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[13:06] <arogarth> sudo ./toshset -h
[13:07] <sacha_> tosh set?
[13:07] <sacha_> huh?
[13:07] <christophoros> christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~/Desktop$ sudo ./toshset -h
[13:07] <christophoros> required kernel toshiba support not enabled.
[13:07] <christophoros> christophoros@christophoros-laptop:~/Desktop$
[13:07] <arogarth> there i dont know...
[13:08] <christophoros> ;p
[13:08] <christophoros> stupid bluetooth ;p
[13:09] <arogarth> my dongle works...
[13:09] <arogarth> hmm
[13:13] <francesco_> !it
[13:14] <stdin> #kubuntu-it
[13:15] <arogarth> use omnibook module
[13:15] <sivaji> how long it will take to release ubuntu 8.04 ?
[13:15] <arogarth> on the other pake
[13:15] <arogarth> page^^
[13:17] <stdin> sivaji: it will be announced in #ubuntu-release-party and on the ubuntu-announce list here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce
[13:19] <Dragnslcr> Have you tried going through the upgrade yet? Just wondering if I should burn a disc before I upgrade, just in case something goes horribly wrong
[13:22] <sivaji> wow 8.04 is out
[13:24] <icmike5> where do you see it?
[13:24] <sivaji> #ubuntu-release-party
[13:24] <makdaknife> heh... careful... don't post links here
[13:24] <makdaknife> some people get very upset
[13:24] <BuzZ-2012> like banning
[13:25] <BuzZ-2012> for no reason
[13:25] <makdaknife> :-)
[13:26] <BuzZ-2012>   so KDE version won't be LTS?
[13:26] <BuzZ-2012> names
[13:26] <francesco_> !it
[13:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[13:27] <francesco_> !it
[13:30] <bdforbes> are there different images for kde3/kde4?
[13:30] <bdforbes> i only see one: kubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso
[13:31] <nosrednaekim> bdforbes: yes there are separate ones
[13:31] <nosrednaekim> that would be the kde3 one right there
[13:31] <ovidiu> "A new distribution version is available"
[13:31] <ovidiu> that's appear in Adept Manager
[13:32] <stdin> yep, it's out
[13:32] <ovidiu> is the new Kubuntu Hardy? :D
[13:32] <stdin> get it before the pipes clog :p
[13:32] <Riddell> ovidiu: oh good, the upgrade notification is working then :)
[13:32] <secleinteer> hardy is out!!!!!!1
[13:32] <ovidiu> yes :D :D
[13:32] <secleinteer> does anyone know how to fix the firefox theme in kubuntu hardy?
[13:33] <Bhaal> stdin: Does that include kubuntu hardy?
[13:34] <bdforbes> does anyone have a link for a torrent?
[13:34] <nosrednaekim> Bhaal: yes
[13:34] <stdin> Bhaal: yes Hardy id out now
[13:34] <Bhaal> goodly, I grab kubuntu instead then :)
[13:35] <Odd-rationale> bdforbes: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[13:35] <bdforbes> odd-rationale: cheers
[13:35] <stdin> releases.ubuntu.com isn't the easiest place to get to right now, so the link may time out once or twice
[13:35] <Riddell> also http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/release/kubuntu-kde4-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent  go seed folks!
[13:35] <Odd-rationale> Riddell!! Congrats!! Thanks a lot!!!
[13:36] <bdforbes> nice
[13:36] <staar2> hi
[13:36] <Bhaal> What about the remix image?
[13:36] <Bhaal> for kde4
[13:36] <bdforbes> thats it
[13:36] <sacha_> that is the remix
[13:36] <Bhaal> oh
[13:37] <sacha_> notice the 'kubuntu-kde4'
[13:37] <Bhaal> Ahhh, sorry, I saw 'se' thought spanish :)
[13:37] <Bhaal> my apologies...
[13:37] <sacha_> im running the kde4 remix right now
[13:38] <bdforbes> hows it taste
[13:38] <sacha_> it hogs my RAM (i only have 512) but other than that it is goo
[13:38] <staar2> oh the release links dont open :(
[13:38] <sacha_> good..
[13:38] <sacha_> btw, kopete crashes consistently.. its a no go (they use the kde4 version). most apps are kde3 version
[13:39] <bdforbes> is it worth getting kde4
[13:39] <sacha_> looks pretty :)
[13:39] <nosrednaekim> sacha_: what are you doing to use all that RAM?
[13:39] <bdforbes> staar2: want the torrent
[13:39] <bdforbes> ?
[13:39] <sacha_> thats just a default install of 8.04 kde4 nosrednaekim
[13:39] <staar2> hm is it fast ?
[13:39] <nosrednaekim> sacha_: not really.... mine uses 312MB...
[13:39] <bdforbes> staar2L no
[13:39] <sacha_> 400 megs is used off boot (including cache and buffers)
[13:40] <bdforbes> 7 up 41 down
[13:40] <staar2> i got from one link like 40kb/s
[13:40] <bdforbes> oh im doing BT
[13:40] <sacha_> nosrednaekim: i have qdevelop, a few konsole tabs, konversation, fsirc, konqueror ... it's on to swap
[13:40] <nosrednaekim> sacha_: are you using the Kwin compositing?
[13:40] <sacha_> yeah im using compositing when i boot
[13:40] <nosrednaekim> oh.... well, there you go. ok
[13:41] <nosrednaekim> turn off the compositing and it will be fast again
[13:41] <sacha_> the compositing makes it faster actually
[13:41] <nosrednaekim> compositing here uses 200MB
[13:41] <sacha_> response, not RAM..
[13:41] <nosrednaekim> but not in memory use
[13:41] <skabet> I get some "Could not calculate the upgrade" - with a line saying "Unofficial software packages not provided på Ubuntu"
[13:41] <sacha_> only time when its slower is when it tries to switch tabs in konqueror -- i can see 2 tabs at the same time, both transparent and it's really slow
[13:41] <skabet> i have two instanlled - is that enouf to breake the upgrade?
[13:42] <Weaselweb> huh, Kubuntu Update to 8.04 LTS?
[13:42] <sacha_> yes
[13:42] <stdin> no, not LTS
[13:42] <sacha_> kde3 one is i thought?
[13:43] <stdin> no
[13:43] <sacha_> :(
[13:43] <Weaselweb> well, the updater prints that (well, in german, so i dont know the exact english text)
[13:43] <nosrednaekim> !khardy
[13:43] <ubotu> Kubuntu Hardy Heron expects to ship with both KDE 3 and KDE 4 as 2 separate disks. KDE 3 should be offered by shipit. The KDE 3 CD will be commercially supported for 18 months and KDE 4 will be community supported
[13:43] <stdin> Weaselweb: there is one Release Notes for all versions
[13:43] <sacha_> when does kubuntu get LTS then?
[13:43] <stdin> next time ubuntu goes LTS
[13:43] <sacha_> omg...
[13:43] <Weaselweb> stdin: this text is displayed by the distribution updater on the top of the window
[13:44] <sacha_> what a rip
[13:44] <staar2> 1h to download
[13:44] <sacha_> what about all those brazilian schools using kde3 version now? 52 million kids or whatever..
[13:44] <stdin> sacha_: blame canonical like the rest of us ;)
[13:44] <sacha_> actually, nvm, they dont use kubuntu
[13:45] <sacha_> anyway, i love my kubuntu kde4: http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2071/myfsircvo5.png
[13:45] <bdforbes> looks cool
[13:45] <Dragnslcr> Is there no 8.04 DVD?
[13:48] <nosrednaekim> Weaselweb: well, ignore it ;)
[13:50] <Weaselweb> nosrednaekim: i know. anyway i'm using kubuntu only in a vmware inside my gentoo ;-)
[13:50] <nosrednaekim> :)
[13:55] <Lord-Phoenix> does anyone have a link to the kde4-remix torrent thats actually accessible?
[13:55] <icmike5> anyone tried kde4?
[13:55] <stdin> Lord-Phoenix: see the topic in #kubuntu-kde4
[13:55] <|Dreams|> which version of kubuntu should i get the remix one or just normal 8.04?
[13:55] <stdin> depends what you want
[13:56] <|Dreams|> latest and greatest
[13:56] <|Dreams|> lol
[13:56] <nosrednaekim> |Dreams|: remix then
[13:56] <BunnyRevolution> hi.  i have a question.  if i order hardy cd today, will it be the same as one i order 8 weeks from now?  or will the one 8 weeks from now include updated packages?
[13:56] <nosrednaekim> it will be the same
[13:56] <|Dreams|> ok thank you very much time to back up using 40dvds
[13:56] <|Dreams|> haha
[13:59] <lovezqian> Hello, everyone
[13:59] <SlimeyPete> hi
[14:00] <lovezqian> hi
[14:00] <lovezqian> how are you?
[14:00] <SlimeyPete> fine thanks
[14:01] <SlimeyPete> this is a support channel by the way; if you want to just chat, you can go to #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[14:01] <lovezqian> oh, i see
[14:01] <lovezqian> thanks
[14:02] <lovezqian> but could you tell me how to go to #kubuntu-offtopic?
[14:02] <Odd-rationale> lovezqian: /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[14:02] <BluesKaj> click on it
[14:02] <lovezqian> just click on it ?
[14:03] <Odd-rationale> BluesKaj: depends on the client...
[14:03] <BluesKaj> well yeah
[14:03] <Odd-rationale> BluesKaj: pidgin. I could do it. :(
[14:03] <Odd-rationale> Konversation ftw
[14:03] <BluesKaj> konverstion works
[14:03] <lovezqian> ok
[14:03] <BluesKaj> konversation
[14:03] <lovezqian> I have done it
[14:06] <dany84_at> has anyone links to the correct md5sums? (of kubuntu-*)
[14:06] <Odd-rationale> dany84_at: which one you want?
[14:06] <phil_> i need help
[14:06] <phil_> someone please help me
[14:07] <nosrednaekim> whats the prob?
[14:07] <Odd-rationale> !ask | phil_
[14:07] <ubotu> phil_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:08] <phil_> how do i update my gnome??? completely soo i can use frostwire again it says when i type in frostwire that java isn`t updated wat should i do??
[14:08] <BunnyRevolution> is wubi a easy interface to virtual box?
[14:08] <dany84_at> Odd-rationale: md5s of the CD-iso images, for kubuntu (alternate, x86)
[14:08] <Odd-rationale> dany84_at: live or alt?
[14:08] <Odd-rationale> oh nvm
[14:09] <BunnyRevolution> is there a JeOS this time?
[14:09] <Odd-rationale> dany84_at: fe122a713c5945dbbff035b16848ae47 *kubuntu-8.04-alternate-amd64.iso
[14:09] <ovidiu> If I have Gnome installed on my kubuntu, it will be upgraded too?
[14:09] <dany84_at> Odd... can you give me the link?
[14:09] <dany84_at> Odd-rationale (sry) can you give me the link?
[14:09] <Odd-rationale> dany84_at: sure...
[14:11] <Odd-rationale> dany84_at: looks like the server is over loaded at the moment.... But i'm very sure that it is correct.
[14:12] <phil_> i got a question
[14:13] <phil_> omg
[14:13] <BluesKaj> !ask | phil_
[14:13] <ubotu> phil_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:13] <nosrednaekim> use http://hobbsee.com/tmp/ for .torrents
[14:13] <nosrednaekim> phil_: this is not the channel for GNOME
[14:13] <dany84_at> okay... Odd-rationale thx so far...
[14:21] <jirik> Hi, does anybody have the same problem as me? When I press alt+TAB, I do not see list of the window, but the windows are switching ...
[14:21] <jirik> I have 8.04 final version
[14:22] <Jucato> jirik: KDE 3.5.9?
[14:22] <jirik> yes
[14:23] <Jucato> Check in System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Window Behavior -> Focus tab -> Navigation -> Show Window List is enabled
[14:24] <Juul> is there a torrent for kubuntu 8.04 KDE 4 Remix?
[14:24] <Jucato> #kubuntu-kde4
[14:24] <stdin> no leading space ;)
[14:24] <LimCore> hello
[14:24] <LimCore> if I have an USB key, how to have it auto mounted to given location alays, basing on some serial number or somethig? like, /media/usb/rafal_key
[14:25] <jirik> Jucato: thanks very much, i do not consider it for good idea
[14:25] <Jucato> jirik: you're welcome very much :)
[14:26] <nosrednaekim> LimCore: use the mounconfig manager... systemsettings->advanced
[14:27] <LimCore> how to start this manager from cmdline?
[14:28] <LimCore> ok got it
[14:29] <LimCore> w00t, cool
[14:30] <enver> can someone help please can't set resolution higher than 640x480
[14:30] <khepa> buenas
[14:30] <khepa> alguien sabe porke no puedo poner mas de 2 escritorios?
[14:31] <Jucato> !es | khepa
[14:31] <ubotu> khepa: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:31] <khepa> ok thanks
[14:37] <tekteen> anyone manage to download hardy yet?
[14:38]  * Jucato almost said "#ubuntu+1 please" :D
[14:38] <tekteen> lol
[14:38] <Pici> Jucato: I'll be glad to get rid of those aliases I have setup
[14:38] <Jucato> :)
[14:39] <Jucato> it's not the aliases... it's my brain that hasn't updated yet :)
[14:39] <enoj> How stable is the 8.04 KDE 4 remix? is it just for playing around, or is it usable for "production"?
[14:39] <Jucato> enoj: personal opinion, since it comes with 4.0 series only,not ready for production. you might get better opinions in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:40] <enoj> Jucato: ok thanks
[14:40] <arcticpenguin380> how long will the repos be chocked for?
[14:41] <tekteen> 2 days
[14:41] <tekteen> :-)
[14:41] <nosrednaekim> at least
[14:42] <arcticpenguin380> im lucky enough to get 133KB/s on the torrent
[14:42] <arcticpenguin380> now its 300Kb/s
[14:42] <tekteen> wow that is fast :'-(
[14:43] <Jucato> heh.. I thought that was 1337KB/s :)
[14:43] <tekteen> I am stuck with 20 at most
[14:43] <tekteen> and I am uploading more :-)
[14:43] <arcticpenguin380> Im lucky enough that i can get 400KB/s with 2 xbox 360s connected to the internet online
[14:44] <zorros> Who could send me a DVD with Kubuntu 8.04?
[14:44] <arcticpenguin380> today is also the last for edgy support =(
[14:44] <stdin> zorros: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/hardy/release/dvd/
[14:45] <tekteen> zorros: If you want a cd I am willing to mail you one :-)
[14:45] <zorros> I've already requested one cd... I need a dvd
[14:45] <stdin> *cough* SHIPIT *cough*
[14:46] <stdin> zorros: use the torrent, it'll be faster
[14:46] <Cannon> hi
[14:46] <arcticpenguin380> are all the ubuntu repo mirrors also going to be full to?
[14:46] <zorros> stdin: my internet connection is 32kbit/sec :(
[14:46] <tekteen> Cannon: hi
[14:46] <tekteen> arcticpenguin380: yep
[14:47] <stdin> zorros: but the servers are going to be hammered for days, you'll be lucky to get a http connection at all
[14:47] <tekteen> arcticpenguin380: ubuntu has shutdown... come again soon
[14:49] <yakuzi> is there anyone with a working torrent tracker? because KTorrent won't work :s
[14:49] <tekteen> yakuzi: ktorrent is a client not a tracker
[14:50] <yakuzi> i know, but the connection with torrent.ubuntu.com is broken, so it won't start downloading
[14:50] <tekteen> I have no problems
[14:51] <tekteen> maybe it was uploaded to the piratebay
[14:51] <tekteen> just make sure you hash check it :-)
[14:51] <tekteen> yakuzi: I have not has a problem with it though
[14:52] <koolatron> Can anyone comment about whether 8.04's KDE4 remix is yet worth it?  I suppose they wouldn't have released a seperate image with KDE4 if it weren't..
[14:52] <Jucato> koolatron: personal opinion, since it comes with 4.0 series only,not ready for production. you might get better opinions in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:52] <Ta3v> Greetings fellow Ubuntu users.
[14:53] <Jucato> koolatron: worth a try though.. but definitely not something you'd completely switch to (since it isn't complete yet)
[14:53] <BluesKaj> koolatron, think I'll wait til the dust settles on kde4 in hardy
[14:53] <Jucato> BluesKaj: I'll wait for 4.1 to start pimping it like crazy
[14:53] <Jucato> er.. krazy
[14:53] <nosrednaekim> koolatron: its interesting... and works for me
[14:53] <Ta3v> Has anyone upgraded to Hardy Heron yet?
[14:53] <koolatron> Jucato: thanks.  that's sort of what my feeling was.. I've got KDE4 installed on my Gutsy machine and it's definitely not ready.  I figured maybe Hardy had a newer or more complete version
[14:53] <Ta3v> I'm in the process of doing so.
[14:54]  * emilsedgh uses KDE's trunk/ and is really happy with it
[14:54] <prateek> How do I update the RC desktop CD image to the final one with Jigdo? There are no desktop jigdo files here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/
[14:54] <fioss> koolatron: I personally use KDE4 at home, its nice already, but not really ready. For full time use I would wait for KDE4.1
[14:54] <Ta3v> I have KDE 4 on my install and I thought it was fine.
[14:54] <Ta3v> I never had any problems with it.
[14:54] <Jucato> for me it's not really a question of stability but of features, at least as far as KDE 4.0 is concerned
[14:55] <Jucato> I'm on trunk (going 4.1) and I love it :)
[14:55] <koolatron> Jucato: so in your opinion 4.1 is worth it, but 4.0 is not?
[14:55] <Jucato> koolatron: "worth it" is very subjective, and depends on how you'll use it
[14:56] <Jucato> if you expect 4.0 to be like an upgraded 3.5 (3.6...), then you're way off mark. you could consider 4.0 to be a sort of tech preview...
[14:56] <koolatron> I think what will probably happen is that I download and try both, unfortunately
[14:56] <Jucato> anyway, more for #kubuntu-kde4 than here :)
[14:56] <koolatron> I was hoping to avoid that :>
[14:56] <zorros> KDE4 rulezzz
[14:56] <emilsedgh> Jucato: btw alpha 1 tagged a few minutes ago.will packages come for kubuntu?
[14:56] <Jucato> koolatron: why not just download one and install the other later?
[14:57] <Jucato> emilsedgh: that I don't know.. stdin?
[14:57] <nosrednaekim> 4.1 alpha? awesome :)
[14:57] <nosrednaekim> I am tempted...
[14:57] <emilsedgh> (btw it includes a very broken plasma) :D
[14:57] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: c'mon! building from SVN is easy!!
[14:57] <stdin> koolatron: not until we move to Qt4.4
[14:57] <Gabz> torrent for 8.04 kubuntu i can't find it any hints ?
[14:58] <stdin> Gabz: topic?
[14:58] <Gabz> don't worry i found it just after i asked i wanted to download the iso
[14:58] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: not when you have Dial-up
[14:58] <nosrednaekim> and don't want to break everything.
[14:59] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: huh? why would it break anything?
[14:59] <emilsedgh> nosrednaekim: im on dialup man.do it once!
[14:59] <nosrednaekim> 26K dial-up?
[14:59] <XSlicer> wow site is slow O.o I couldnt even download the torrent.. I got it now though.. after 10 retries >.>
[14:59] <genii> 26K???
[14:59] <nosrednaekim> when the tar some out i'll get my dad to Download it.
[14:59] <nosrednaekim> yep
[14:59] <emilsedgh> nosrednaekim: you could do something else
[14:59] <genii> bleh
[14:59] <Gabz> ugh the downlaod mirrors are so slow i can't download the torrent file...
[15:00] <karl_> true that
[15:00] <prateek> Where are the jigdo files for desktop CDs?
[15:00] <karl_> someone have a link to the torrent file?
[15:00] <emilsedgh> nosrednaekim: if you have access to some servers with high speed, get the svn there and create a zip from svn, then download it
[15:00] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: just aptoncd or something all the necessary packages. then you can even just download tarballed source packages for SVN snapshots (currently 4.0.70)
[15:00] <prateek> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/kubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[15:00] <karl_> how about the remix too?
[15:01] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: is there a list of neccesary  packages?
[15:01] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: sure!
[15:01] <prateek> I don't have that page loaded in my browser.
[15:01] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: for kubuntu hardy? nice :)
[15:02] <Gabz> thanks
[15:02] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: on techbase I assume
[15:02] <Jucato> http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Kubuntu_and_Debian
[15:02] <Jucato> actually it's gutsy, but I'm sure it will work :)
[15:02] <nosrednaekim> thanx.... when this hardy update-slam-the-mirrors-kraze is over i'll give it a shot :)
[15:03] <Jucato> :)
[15:03] <slowpoke> how long till there will be reliable user-created torrents up?
[15:04] <karl_> i found one on demonoid
[15:04] <XSlicer> Fast torrent, 1 MB/sec
[15:04]  * slowpoke goes to check demonoid acct
[15:05] <enoj> When will adept ask me to upgrade to 8.04?
[15:05] <karl_> is posting urls prohibitied?
[15:05] <prateek> Where are the jigdo files for desktop CDs? I hope they are available.
[15:05] <nosrednaekim> enoj: soon
[15:05] <Jucato> karl_: depends if it's relevant or appropriate
[15:05] <nosrednaekim> karl_: I don't think so
[15:05] <SlimeyPete> karl_: no
[15:05] <SlimeyPete> it was earlier
[15:05] <karl_> http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1446543/10862592/
[15:05] <yakuzi> i found my torrent problem....the university network i'm on blocks torrents, even if it's legal
[15:05] <karl_> that's a link to the kubuntu alternative install
[15:05] <lovre> hi all
[15:05] <lovre> where can i see the kubuntu 8.04 changelog?
[15:06] <SlimeyPete> lovre: on the release page
[15:06] <SlimeyPete> linked from the main page
[15:06]  * genii hands out coffees
[15:06] <slowpoke> karl_: crap, 9 seeders?  i think i'll go home for lunch, start the torrent, and hopefully by 5:30, it'll be done
[15:06] <pietje_phuck> About to install the 8.04 any reason not to?
[15:06] <karl_> it was coming down at 200 for me
[15:07] <karl_> suddenly i lost connection to the tracker
[15:07] <slowpoke> karl_: i'm still leery of demonoid... could be honeypot, but that's getting off-topic.
[15:07] <slowpoke> has anyone upgraded from gutsy today?
[15:07] <slowpoke> any breakage?
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> slowpoke: did it two weeks ago
[15:08] <nosrednaekim> no breakage then
[15:08] <rickey> this is the only time ill post my proublem
[15:09] <rickey> E: Type 'kubuntu-restricted-extras.' is not known on line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:09] <rickey> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[15:09] <rickey> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[15:09] <rickey> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[15:09] <rickey> will someone help me fix it
[15:09] <Jucato> !paste | rickey
[15:09] <ubotu> rickey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:10] <Jucato> rickey: can you pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file? I think there might be something wrong
[15:12] <rickey> where do it find this file
[15:12] <Jucato> in the /etc/apt/ directory :)
[15:12] <rickey> how do i get to this list so i can copy and past
[15:13] <Jucato> rickey: press Alt+F2, enter "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[15:13] <rickey> paste
[15:14] <karl_> could i just install ubuntu 8.04 and install kubuntu-desktop?
[15:14] <karl_> so i can download it now.
[15:15] <genii> Yup. Use torrent if possible
[15:15] <karl_> lol ubuntu.com is down.
[15:15] <flipstar> not down..but veryyyyyyyyyyy slow
[15:15] <tekteen> ddos lives
[15:15] <nosrednaekim> karl_: yes, that works
[15:15] <last> hello everyone
[15:15] <genii> Yes, approaching DDOS levels of slow
[15:16] <last> I have just instailled kubuntu, but it seems I cannot find repositories for codecs and flash and that kind of things
[15:16] <XSlicer> At least I had this small luck of getting the torrent.. after that within 15 minutes I had the ISO >>
[15:16] <genii> !medibuntu | last
[15:16] <ubotu> last: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[15:17] <nosrednaekim> last: kubuntu-restricted-extras is the package that you want
[15:17] <flipstar> XSlicer: can you post the torrent :P (if it's the kubuntu desktop)
[15:17] <XSlicer> Sure
[15:17] <XSlicer> well
[15:17] <last> thabks nosrednaekim
[15:17] <karl_> good luck connecting to it
[15:17] <XSlicer> I have this now
[15:17] <XSlicer> xslicer.nl/torrents/
[15:17] <XSlicer> http://xslicer.nl/torrents/
[15:17] <nosrednaekim> haha
[15:18] <last> I meant thanks a lot nosrednaekim
[15:19] <flipstar> hm kde4 is actually not what i want
[15:19] <flipstar> btw is it possible to hide a user from the login manager? i created a ftp user that shouldn't show up there
[15:20] <LimCore> flipstar: it is
[15:20] <LimCore> try looking for some configure there.  or look by hand for option files in /etc/
[15:20] <genii> flipstar: The uid/gid needs to be under 1000 then it becomes a system account and not shown
[15:20] <LimCore> genii: not only
[15:20] <LimCore> you can show/hide any other
[15:21] <LimCore> in kdm, gdm
[15:21] <XSlicer> hm
[15:21] <XSlicer> 404's
[15:22] <Jucato> flipstar: System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Login Manager -> Users tab
[15:22] <Jucato> genii: ^^^
[15:22] <flipstar> ah exactly what i searched :) thanks
[15:22] <vamsi> Hello everyone, I have a quick question about hardy installation
[15:22] <rickey> how do i get sources .list to number
[15:23] <Jucato> rickey: what do you mean?
[15:23] <vamsi> I am running hardy beta now, how do i upgrade to final release of hardy?
[15:23] <Jucato> vamsi: just do regular upgrades
[15:23] <rickey> so the lines will be numbered
[15:23] <nosrednaekim> vamsi: "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[15:23] <Jucato> rickey: you don't need to. when you paste it in the pastebin link, it will show numbers
[15:23] <vamsi> jucato: i install all updates adept throws at me. so is that enough?
[15:23] <Jucato> !pastebin | rickey
[15:23] <ubotu> rickey: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:23] <Jucato> vamsi: yep
[15:24] <rickey> ok
[15:24] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: might need dist-upgrade there (since it's the default mode for Synaptic and Adept anyway)
[15:24] <bipolar> Does anyone have a link to the 8.04 i386 Desktop iso torrent? I'm having a hell of a time getting it off the overloaded servers.
[15:24] <rickey> i should paste the whole ist?"
[15:24] <vamsi> jucato: oh okay. then i am already running the final version of hardy! cool.
[15:24] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: I did not know that :)
[15:24] <XSlicer> http://www.xslicer.nl/torrents/ <-- some torrents
[15:24] <Jucato> vamsi: you can check in Konsole by typing "lsb_release -a"
[15:25] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: in Adept, "Full Upgrade" = dist-upgrade and Safe Upgrade = upgrade only
[15:25] <Jucato> I forgot the names in Synaptic, but it was basically the same
[15:25] <vamsi> jucato: alright thanks for the help. have a good day
[15:28] <spawn57> woooOooOO hardy's out ;D
[15:28] <Ertyle> !torrents-#kubuntu is <reply> Kubuntu Hardy Heron (8.04) torrents can be obtained at http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/8.04/release/ (KDE 3.5.9) or http://se.cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/release/ (KDE 4.0.3)
[15:28] <valerio__> #ubuntu-it
[15:28] <genii> Jucato: Ah OK :)
[15:29] <genii> (work required me briefly here)
[15:29] <flipstar> are there download statistic's from ubuntu.com ?
[15:29] <flipstar> would be interesting :)
[15:30] <nosrednaekim> flipstar: yeah... I had the url.. just a sec
[15:31] <genii> flipstar: Probably on distrowatch you might get some idea
[15:31] <djouallah> in am using kubuntu 4.04 konqueror works, but konversation keep teeling me can't resolv the host
[15:31] <djouallah> 8.04
[15:31] <ivan_> hey guys, I have problem upgrading :)
[15:31] <nosrednaekim> flipstar: http://noc.bit.nl/stackgraph.php?stackconf=ubuntu
[15:31] <ivan_> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/dists/hardy/Release Unable to find expected entry gutsy/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?
[15:31] <ivan_> do you have ideas?
[15:32] <genii> nosrednaekim: Gotta love those spikes in April and October :)
[15:33] <nosrednaekim> :)
[15:34] <BluesKaj> yeah, I'll bet the servers at sherbrooke university are humming
[15:34] <BluesKaj> sure were slow yesterday
[15:34] <jussio1> Hrm, how do I change refresh rate in hardy :/
[15:35] <jussio1> this 60 hz is probably not good for my screen...
[15:38] <Riddell> TimS: that wasn't my intention :)
[15:39] <TimS> Haha, No, I realise it is a eV channel, so I should not really be there anyway =]
[15:39] <genii> I can't remember when I saw Riddell here last.
[15:40] <Riddell> genii: I'm always here
[15:40] <stdin> he spies on us all ;)
[15:40] <TimS> Riddell: I've just been helping with docs, but the KDE-doc channel is so inactive that I can't get much help.
[15:40] <genii> stdin: Probably :)
[15:40] <BluesKaj> lurker eh :)
[15:40] <TimS> Whats happened to the doc team recently?
[15:40] <genii> Riddell: Well, "actively" here , I'll qualify
[15:41] <TimS> Whow, 8.04 has been released already?
[15:42] <stdin> TimS: has been for a while now
[15:42]  * BluesKaj wondeers if the ati 8.4 driver from gutsy will work in Hardy ?
[15:42] <TimS> Wow, I am a bit out.
[15:42] <stdin> grab the torrent and SEED! ;)
[15:42]  * TimS wonders if they have finally updated the nvidia driver so that my old 7300 will work again.
[15:43] <TimS> stdin: Any idea how long the update will take me, I only have a 1mb broadband line.
[15:43] <stdin> TimS: not sure, I've been on hardy for a few months
[15:43] <TimS> The last update froze out on me, broke my installation :(
[15:44] <TimS> Oh right, anyone else upgraded and can tell me the time it took?
[15:45] <Riddell> the upgrade tool is significantly more stable this time
[15:45] <TimS> Oh, brilliant, I don't want to risk loosing everything again
[15:45] <Riddell> takes half an hour to a couple of hours depending on lots of things, it'll give you an estimate before it starts
[15:46] <BluesKaj> TimS, I'm upgrading on 700kbs DSL ...speed is averaging about 75 from the US servers .Looks like about 2 hrs total here ...I gave up on the Canadian ones
[15:46] <TimS> Oh right. How much has to be downloaded then?
[15:46] <TimS> I have a download restriction as of 4.00 pm here. BluesKaj, ah, I am in the UK, not sure how much I would get.
[15:47] <BluesKaj> TimS, not sure ...adept only gives the number of files , no size
[15:48] <TimS> How many files did you have?
[15:48] <BluesKaj> 911
[15:48] <Jucato> the estimate of size is at the status bar I think
[15:48] <TimS> Okay, Ill have a look, how do I do this then?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> staus bar on adept just gives %
[15:50] <TimS> The only reason for me upgrading is if the nvidia-glx bug has been fixed, its reported to have a more recent driver, but I want to see a test from someone whos used it, as the new driver is still not perfect.
[15:52] <stefan-f> juhu, on ubuntu server 6.06 I have 8.2.5 running!!!
[15:53] <stefan-f> so what is that with the suse stuff?
[15:53] <farchord> w00t kde4 kinda rocks
[15:53] <TimS> BluesKaj: When you update, do you get a choice to go for KDE4 or does it give you KDE3 automatically?
[15:54] <bbird> Hi guys. I Have some problem with compiz. Is this the right place to have some assistance ?
[15:56] <TimS> Riddell: The terminal does not show when I press show terminal :o Not sure if thats a bug or just my PC :P
[15:57] <XSlicer> bbird: try #compiz-fusion
[15:58] <bbird> Thanks a lot XSlicer
[16:01] <pietje_phuck> woot, install went better then most, just had to configure the monitor manually
[16:02] <TimS> pietje_phuck: Fresh install or upgrade?
[16:02] <pietje_phuck> fresh install
[16:02] <TimS> I hope my upgrade goes as well as that
[16:02] <XSlicer> Im still installing, no problems so far.
[16:02] <TimS> But I am not sure I could fix my monitor anyway!
[16:03] <pietje_phuck> had to reset the pc after 5 minutes after the configure of the monitor, but all is well now
[16:03] <SlimeyPete> for the first time, the upgrade worked for me
[16:03] <SlimeyPete> that's never happened before on *buntu
[16:03] <TimS> It didn't work for me last time, I hope it does this time
[16:03] <pietje_phuck> woot SlimeyPete
[16:03] <SlimeyPete> as in, it worked perfectly. No problems whatsoever.
[16:03] <TimS> I am taking a serious chunk of my bandwith restriction to do this!
[16:03] <pietje_phuck> I am not using kde 4.0 though
[16:04] <pietje_phuck> SlimeyPete: Nice when it all works out aint it?
[16:04] <TimS> Holy hell! 78 Packages to be removed, 172 packages to be installed 1547 packages to be upgraded.
[16:04] <pietje_phuck> lol
[16:04] <TimS> 1426mb of downloads
[16:05] <pietje_phuck> get the CD instead
[16:05] <TimS> That will take 5 hours 13mins on this connection.
[16:05] <pietje_phuck> lol
[16:05] <TimS> Then the upgrade will take several hours to finish,
[16:05] <salva> hithere! what's up woth 8.04 repositories? its seems to be empty!!1!
[16:05] <TimS> Right, Ill leave it till saturday when I get a larger bandwith!
[16:06]  * SlimeyPete did it from work. It took less than 90 seconds :)
[16:06] <TimS> 5 hours just for the downloads!
[16:06] <TimS> 90 seconds? No way! How fast is the broadband
[16:07] <flipstar> Upload Speed:	6577.5 kB/s :)
[16:07] <farchord> TimS: downloaded the upgrade for me at 1200kb/s
[16:07] <SlimeyPete> TimS: well, from my position it's 100mbit (that's the speed of the LAN)
[16:07] <farchord> took me like 10mins
[16:07] <rickey> ive loaded my proulbem on pasteben   the name is rickey may2
[16:08] <SlimeyPete> but the link is a big multi-gigabit pipe to JANET
[16:08] <TimS> Jesus! I would get 100kbs If I am lukcy, 1547 packages to be updates
[16:08] <flipstar> tooked here about 10 seconds for the cd lol
[16:08] <TimS> updated*
[16:08] <polysilicon> I am not able to download ISO image of kubuntu, are there local mirrors?
[16:09] <stdin> use torrents if you can
[16:09] <polysilicon> the main site seems to be loaded
[16:09] <stdin> that's why I say to use torrents
[16:10] <genii> rickey: If you tell us the website address of your paste there we may be able to go look at it
[16:10] <polysilicon> but no local mirros?
[16:11] <salva> sorry... where are the repos for compiz or nvidia driver?
[16:11] <flipstar> polysilicon: torrent will probably be faster anyway
[16:11] <stdin> polysilicon: they'd be getting hit too
[16:11] <stdin> salva: compiz is in main and the nvidia driver is in restricted
[16:11] <stdin> !nvidia