[20:03] <maverikh> ive actually read all those, im a noob basically... i have a program that installs its own postgre database within its folder. when i first install the app it works fine. if the server reboots itself the program stops working
[20:03] <maverikh> the only way to fix it is to re-install app
[20:04] <ortsvorsteher> maverikh, is there any start/stop script which you became with the install of this app?
[20:04] <maverikh> yes, a start stop and restart
[20:04] <lafon> Ummm....any solution for extremly choppy audio/video?
[20:05] <Seven_Six_Two> not sure what's going on any more. when I play an avi in xine maximized, the window moves up and to the left pixel by pixel, and then shudders to a halt. If I'm quick enough to kill it and try vlc, I can play for a minute or two before my hd starts spinning like mad and my whole system slows to a crawl. I mean crawl. If I alt-ctrl-f1 it takes about 5 minutes to get a login prompt. another 5 to 10 before I get a bash prompt. ther
[20:05] <Seven_Six_Two> e's nothing listed in dmesg when this happens. no other programs give me issues. I have an nvidia 6800gtoc and I'm using the recommended driver (dual head config)
[20:05] <clix> can you get a list of available kernel modules? I want to find one for my wireless card
[20:05] <AndChat-> Re
[20:05] <maverikh> i added it to my rc.local but it didnt work,  im not sure if i added it right.
[20:05] <ortsvorsteher> maverikh, so i think you can add your app to start and stop when start and stop your system by update-rc.d
[20:05] <Foloex> hello world
[20:06] <llutz> clix: modprobe -l
[20:06] <joltman> running 10.10x64 and i'm not able to ping anything local to my network...however, i do have SSH port forwarding through my router (pfSense box) and i'm able to SSH to my home network from outside and am on the same box that's having issues
[20:06] <lafon> Seven_Six_Two: i'm having similar problems (tho I have the LTS)
[20:06] <spacebug-> if I manually remove a conffig file for a package and want that back, how can I do? I tried purge and then install again but the config files dont come back
[20:06] <Seven_Six_Two> lafon, what video card?
[20:07] <maverikh> hmmm ok
[20:07] <maverikh> let me try it
[20:07] <ortsvorsteher> sure
[20:07] <lafon> basic integrated intel chipset
[20:07] <Seven_Six_Two> lafon, are you having the same xine and vlc issues, or just choppy video?
[20:08] <lafon> i used totem
[20:08] <user_> hi all
[20:08] <maverikh> does this line of code look ok?   su brent -c "/media/employees/brent/TimeTrex/start"
[20:08] <lafon> and any games have same problem
[20:08] <C4colo> anything change between 8.04 and 10.04 as far as encrypted partitions go?
[20:08] <lafon> 'cept I lose all control and HAVE to restart
[20:08] <C4colo> I have a 1TB mirrored array that was encrypted prior to an upgrade and now when I unlock it, well, it just says "unpartitioned"
[20:08] <Foloex> I have some trouble with my network interface, it's acting wierd. It's working during short periods. My dmesg is full of "eth0: link up" (but no link down). It use to be working fine. I'm running 11.04 amd64 desktop with a r8169 chipset.
[20:08] <kvarley> When I do "tar jcvf archive.tar.bz2 /home/kvarley/Documents" it makes the archive BUT within it there are folders home kvarley, I just want it to put Documents in there. What am I doing wrong?
[20:08] <C4colo> no data there
[20:09] <Renekton> I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 and wanna know if is possible to start wireless connection before fstab...
[20:09] <C4colo> 8.04 everything there, do an upgrade to 10.04 and it is now an empty partition
[20:09] <BlouBlou> C4colo: All applications had been upgraded
[20:09] <clix> llutz, that shows active modules? or installed ones? or just what's in /lib/modules? I mean can i see a list of modules from ubuntu servers that i can install?
[20:09] <C4colo> so a new version of encryption will not decrypt when given the same passphrase?
[20:09] <jakemp> I just made firefox visible in all desktops, how do I undo this?
[20:09] <llutz> clix: it show modules available, used modules to list "lsmod"
[20:09] <C4colo> should that not be disclosed during the upgrade process?
[20:09] <lafon> kvarley, I'm not even a newbie but it sounds like yoy are compressing your home folder to the archive
[20:10] <SockPants> hi all
[20:10] <lafon> rather than opening it
[20:10] <C4colo> do I need to find an 8.04 disc and install a system just to recover my data?
[20:10] <SockPants> i'm trying to make a usb drive with the latest install on it to install on my netbook
[20:10] <SockPants> i'm using a mac
[20:10] <clix> ok, so I have some 80211 modules in kernel/net/wireless how do i install new ones?
[20:11] <SockPants> the mac will read the usb drive i've made, the windows netbook will say i need to format it and it will not boot from the usb key.
[20:11] <lafon> did you make the usb bootable?
[20:11] <SockPants> doesn't say i need to anywhere
[20:11] <llutz> clix: either install packages containing new modules, a new kernel-package or build modules yourself
[20:11] <lafon> did you extraxt the .iso to the usb or use a program?
[20:12] <SockPants> lafon: i followed the instructions on the site. they involve converting the iso to an img file and then dd'ing it to the usb drive.
[20:12] <C4colo> also, while I'm here, I edited the stupid gconf-editor setting for the button_layout and it did nothing to move the buttons back to where they belong.  Is there another user-specific override for that setting?
[20:12] <clix> llutz, right, so where's the list of packages containing new modules, so i can install the right one?
[20:12] <mBull> hi, anyone experience with dyndns, or a similar service to provide dns serverices?
[20:12] <C4colo> I have done that on 20 other systems and it always seems to work, what did I do on my desktop that prevented that setting from moving the buttons
[20:12] <lafon> SockPants: try finding an app that'll do it for you and then see
[20:12] <llutz> clix: what exactly do you miss/need/want?
[20:13] <SockPants> i'm wondering whether the instructions only work if you want to actually install ubuntu on a mac, not just any computer. that doesn't seem likely though
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Mbull: i use no-ip
[20:13] <C4colo> but more importantly, why the fuck isn't my encryption string decrypting the volume anymore?
[20:13] <SockPants> why would i need an app, the instructions are on the official site.
[20:13] <oCean> C4colo: mind your language here
[20:13] <lafon> dunno
[20:13] <C4colo> english isn't acceptable?
[20:13] <lafon> but its worth a try
[20:13] <IdleOne> !language | C4colo
[20:13] <Randolph`> C4colo: please dont say the F word in front of me kthnx
[20:13] <clix> i need the module for my wireless card which is rt3090pcie
[20:14] <C4colo> I'm being professional, that's how we talk in my profession when 1TB volumes don't decrypt today with the same key they did yesterday
[20:14] <IdleOne> C4colo: Don't swear in this channel please
[20:14] <mBull> c4colo have used a salt?
[20:14] <C4colo> I used the bult-in encrypted volumes tool in 8.04
[20:14] <n1xNc0d3> IDLE with Python 3 is crashing on code completion! What should i do?
[20:14] <C4colo> and 10.04
[20:14] <C4colo> and they produce very different restults
[20:15] <C4colo> if either of those use salt then they should remain consistent
[20:15] <kennethreitz> where does the tmux configuration come from that's included in the new ubuntu AMIs?
[20:15] <kennethreitz> i love it
[20:15] <sburwood1> I have Ubuntu 11.04 and Firefox 4.  To access a site that I need to access, I need to use either Internet Explorer 8 or Firefox 3.6.  I haven't been able to get Firefox 3.6 (32 bit) installed so I can use the site I need.  Can someone help me??
[20:15] <llutz> clix: read here for info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1600498
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Mbull: there is the client app   noip2   to update the ip regularly
[20:16] <mBull> any good?
[20:16] <lafon> does anyone know how to fix the choppy video/audio problem>
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> sburwood1: grab an agent switcher addon
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> lafon: try a different output method in preferences
[20:17] <lafon> explain
[20:17] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: Did that a couple days ago.  Didn't fix the problem.  Also, the site seems to require a 32 bit version.  My 11.04 and my Firefox is 64 bit
[20:17] <clix> llutz, ok, will read that - i found some on that forum before using google but didn't understand it - I was hoping for something like install package called xxx then it will work :D
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Mbull: no issues in 4 years (best guess). Just need to keep refreshing the account with the email they send occasionally
[20:18] <llutz> !find rt3090
[20:18] <Seven_Six_Two> ActionParsnip, I'm having a similar issue. if I open xine and maximize it (with and without video loaded) it moves up and to the left pixel by pixel. output method doesn't make a difference. I ran xine in terminal, and there's no output
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> sburwood1: there may be a how to on getting 32bit browser on 64bit OS. Otherwise not sure
[20:19] <w30> All of a sudden I have slow key feature at my gdm login; not any where else. I didn't set that feature that I know of How do I get that feature turned off?
[20:19] <sburwood1> will try, brb
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Seven_Six_Two: same in all players?
[20:20] <mBull> ActionParsnip: nice, i'll have a look, have your tried refreshing the account with a script?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Seven_Six_Two: if you use compiz, try without to see if it helps
[20:20] <Seven_Six_Two> ActionParsnip, only xine moves, both xine and vlc eventually freeze my box
[20:21] <Seven_Six_Two> ActionParsnip, ok, I'll try that
[20:21] <llutz> clix:module seems to be available here https://launchpad.net/~markus-tisoft/+archive/rt3090/+build/1098170/+files/rt3090-dkms_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu0~ppa1_all.deb    download it, install with "sudo  dpkg -i rt3090-dkms_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu0~ppa1_all.deb"
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Mbull: noip2 runs as a process and does it automagically. Here its every 30 mins
[20:22] <Seven_Six_Two> turning off effects isn't in "appearances" any more.
[20:22] <lafon> Oh great. I started a video and then the player quit leaving me with my gui 4x the size it should be
[20:22] <clix> llutz, I tried to install that before and it said that the package doesn't conform because it has binaries in an architecture independent package, so ubuntu refused to install it
[20:22] <Seven_Six_Two> isn't compiz required for unity?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Seven_Six_Two: press Alt+F2 and run: metacity --replace
[20:23] <jduke128> hi
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Seven_Six_Two: yes, unity will just stop. Its only to test
[20:23] <Galvatron> Seven_Six_Two: There's a thing called Unity 2D, for hardware not capable of running Compiz
[20:24] <llutz> clix: try dpkg --force-architecture                but that might break things, be carefull
[20:24] <jduke128> d
[20:24] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: I had downloaded a version of Firefox 3.6 at a cyber cafe, but it ends *.bz2.    Then what?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> !away > FusionX|Away
[20:25] <FusionX> sorry, some script activated "auto-away"
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> sburwood1: tar jxvf file
[20:25] <maverikh> i got it working... i misread the guides you gave me... i had myself confused for a bit
[20:25] <xenland> Whats a good radio streaming server app for ubuntu vps server? I would like to start a radio streaming broadcast that i can connect with virtual dj.
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> sburwood1: you'll need ia32-libs   for it to run
[20:26] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: Wait a minute
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Xenland: vlc-nox, mplayer, mediatomb maybe
[20:26] <ManoloMtnez> hello everyone
[20:27] <clix> modinfo rt2860sta
[20:27] <clix> oops
[20:27] <xenland> Oh cool thanks i didnt know mplayer had this capability
[20:27] <ManoloMtnez> Somehow my Ubuntu Natty has stopped booting
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> xenland: it does a Lot. May do what you need
[20:28] <ManoloMtnez> now it freezes at mid boot, right after the message 'failed to get i915 symbols...'
[20:28] <C4colo> seriously though, what good is a technical support chat room where you are prohibited from cursing?  About 93% of my cursing is technical-support-related.
[20:28] <ManoloMtnez> i've googled for that, but workarounds assume that the computer still boots. Which it doesn't
[20:28] <ManoloMtnez> Any advice? Thanks!
[20:28] <clix> llutz, I have the rt2860sta module :) must have been something I did yesterday to install it - now to make it work
[20:29] <llutz> clix: sudo modprobe rt2860sta
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> C4colo: its channel policy due to the range of ages in here as well as keeping things civilized and mature.
[20:29] <alienmindtrick> I'm using Google Chrome in Natty and I have problems with Java on some sites. I'm using the current Java 6-26 version. Any idea what I can do?
[20:29] <Hanzo> !Ceyda28 mrb
[20:29] <clix> llutz, will it load by default? should i add that to a config file?
[20:29] <w30> C4colo, you need the latest ncurses on your computer to do that :=)
[20:30] <GatekeeperZA> hello everyone, how would i add multiple hosts to my /etc/hosts eg if i want to resolv me.me.com to <IP_ADDRESS> / me2.me.com to <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:30] <C4colo> haha w30
[20:30] <llutz> clix: 1st check if it loads and works. if it does, add "rt2860sta" to /etc/modules to make sure it'll be loaded at boottime
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> alienmindtrick: googlesearch: natty java     hit i'm feeling lucky. Great java ppa
[20:30] <phrostbite> I am trying to install python but it says to run "su root" However it keeps telling me my password is invalid which I know it isn't
[20:31] <C4colo> ActionParsnip,  your definition of mature is not the same as the MPAA's I guess.
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> Gatekeeper: just add another line
[20:31] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: I just looked everywhere for ia32-libs, but didn't find it.  Even in Synaptic
[20:31] <alienmindtrick> ActionParsnip: did that a couple days ago. same problem.
[20:32] <Seven_Six_Two> Galvatron, I know, my hardware can handle acceleration.
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> C4colo: that is moot. Rules are rules and by using the channel you agreed to abide by them
[20:32] <alienmindtrick> ActionParsnip: i have the same problem on the same sites in Firefox, too.
[20:32] <GatekeeperZA> ActionParsnip, a new line with the domain name and ip of the machine or local ip .. ?
[20:32] <clix> llutz, ok, thanks a lot for your help - i think i am on the right track now :)
[20:32] <C4colo> anyway, seems the disk utility doesn't like my fstab entry so it was mounting it at /media/VOLUMELABEL instead of where I told it to, and add that to the fact that the disk manager doesn't know it doesn't know how to read encrypted partition tables it is saying it is unpartitioned
[20:32] <C4colo> so it was a red-herring-false-alarm sort of situation going on
[20:32] <fizyplankton> how do i check which partition GRUB is installed to?
[20:33] <C4colo> ActionParsnip, get a procreating sense of humor
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Gatekeeper: treat is as a seperate entry.
[20:33] <Seven_Six_Two> ActionParsnip, that didn't go very well. as soon as I hit enter after metacity --replace  I lost my panels, window decorations, and the ability to type in any window
[20:33] <jtreminio> Hello all. If I've completely removed all items from the gnome panels (gnome 2), how do I delete the last, empty panel? I'm using AWN + dockbarx so I've no need for the panels anymore.
[20:33] <C4colo> cursing = mature content
[20:33] <C4colo> it is a joke, get it?
[20:33] <C4colo> you said to keep it "mature" in here
[20:33] <oCean> C4colo: can you stop the offtopic discussion?
[20:33] <ninota> Hola un saludo.¿Se habla español aquí?
[20:33] <Pici> !es | ninota
[20:33] <ManoloMtnez> hello, I wouldn't want to break any netiquette, but this chat goes really fast :) Should I repost my problem?
[20:33] <ninota> Gracias
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> C4colo: i do and i too swear up a storm at work but here its not permitted. Can you not express yourself otherwise?
[20:34] <C4colo> I'm just trying to get some help and provide a resolution to my disconcerting issue from a few minutes ago ... a little small talk is not unwarranted in these situations
[20:34] <phrostbite> I am trying to install python but it says to run "su root" However it keeps telling me my password is invalid which I know it isn't
[20:34] <aeon-ltd> ManoloMtnez: yes if unanswered it's usually best to post again in a few minutes
[20:34] <jtreminio> phrostbite:  sudo apt-get install python ?
[20:34] <Pici> phrostbite: Python should already be installed by default.
[20:34] <oCean> C4colo: the smalltalk goes in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[20:34] <C4colo> but this is channel-specific talk
[20:35] <C4colo> the subject was breached in this very channel
[20:35] <sburwood1> ur busy, ActionParsnip.  Sorry
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> phrostbite: use:   sudo -i
[20:35] <GatekeeperZA> ActionParsnip, a new line with the domain name and ip of the machine or local ip .. ? and to i just do a networking restart to activate changes ... ?
[20:35] <ManoloMtnez> aeon-ltd: Thanks!
[20:35] <phrostbite> Which version of python? Shouldn't there be a way to run it?
[20:35] <alienmindtrick> second issue: i just did a fresh install of natty a couple days ago and now when i start my machine i have to log in 3 times, every time. what gives and how do i remedy it?
[20:35] <C4colo> I came here with a LUKS encryption issue, the participants in this channel forked the topic
[20:35] <Pici> phrostbite: Depends which release of Ubuntu you're using.
[20:35] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, check your repositories in synaptic make sure they're all enable including canonical parthers and other software if you're slightly adventurous
[20:35] <Gaming4JC> Ok I need some one to walk me through getting a VNC working on Ubuntu. Ripping my hair out atm... :(
[20:35] <Pici> C4colo: Just re-ask your question then.
[20:36] <ManoloMtnez> Hi, Somehow my Ubuntu Natty has stopped booting
[20:36] <C4colo> I don't need to, I just provided the resolution for anyone concerned
[20:36] <ManoloMtnez> now it freezes at mid boot, right after the message 'failed to get i915 symbols...'
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> Gatekeeper: no need to restart service. Its good to go immediately
[20:36] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: I am, if I'm not going to crash my machine
[20:36] <ManoloMtnez> i've googled for that, but workarounds assume that the computer still boots. Which it doesn't
[20:36] <sburwood1> ;à
[20:36] <Hanzo> !Ceyda28: wat
[20:36] <sburwood1> ;)
[20:36] <ManoloMtnez> Any advice? Thanks!ç
[20:36] <C4colo> just tying up some conversational loose-ends related to the channel's policies
[20:36] <oCean> Hanzo: stop the spamming
[20:36] <fizyplankton> how do i check which partition GRUB is installed to?
[20:36] <Pici> C4colo: cool beans.  If you want to hang out and answer questions thats fine, otherwise general chat belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere :)
[20:36] <aeon-ltd> ManoloMtnez: also in one line to prevent clutter
[20:36] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, no it won;t crash , it's mostly to do with legalities
[20:37] <ManoloMtnez> aeon-ltd: oh, sorry. I thought long posts were worse
[20:37] <BluesKaj> !repositories > sburwood1
[20:37] <C4colo> how can discussing #ubuntu be off-topic in #ubuntu?
[20:37] <fizyplankton> how do i check which partition GRUB is installed to?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> Sburwood: weird. Check the deps of wine. I'm sure it exists
[20:37] <C4colo> and I mean #ubuntu the channel itself, the one conveying these words to you
[20:38] <C4colo> is there a #ubuntu-#ubuntu channel?
[20:38] <Seven_Six_Two> is there more than one method to turn off compiz in 11.04? metacity --replace  didn't work out so well for me
[20:38] <Pici> C4colo: If you want to discuss a confusion about the policies of this channel please join me in #ubuntu-ops
[20:38] <IdleOne> C4colo: this is a support channel, stick to ubuntu support
[20:38] <aeon-ltd> Seven_Six_Two: not without killing it then starting another WM
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> C4colo: its a support channel only. Discussion of the channel itself is not ubuntu support
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Pici: read my mind
[20:39] <Seven_Six_Two> alright. we'll try kde next
[20:39] <sburwood1> ActionParsnip: In Synaptic, it mentions 7 things when I type ia32, but I don't see anything that seems to be identified as ia32-libs
[20:40] <clix> wireless is working, thanks llutz
[20:40] <fizyplankton> hey guys, is there any way to check which partition GRUB is installed to?
[20:40] <jtreminio> Hello all. If I've completely removed all items from the gnome panels (gnome 2), how do I delete the last, empty panel? I'm using AWN + dockbarx so I've no need for the panels anymore.
[20:40] <clix> now on to the webcam
[20:40] <alienmindtrick> OK, since ActionParsnip left...and he was answering my question...should I assume that I should repost it?
[20:40] <GatekeeperZA> how do i restart service to activate net /etc/hosts without restarting pc
[20:41] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, did you check the repositories ?...it's ther if you have the correct ones enabled
[20:41] <ManoloMtnez> Hello, Ubuntu natty has started freezing at mid boot, right after the message "failed to get i915 symbols, graphics turbo disabled".
[20:41] <ManoloMtnez> I don't know whether this error message is related to whatever is making Ubuntu choke, but maybe it isn't, as it doesn't prevent most to boot (according to Google). Any advise?
[20:41] <sburwood1> I enabled everything except for Opera beta
[20:41] <Hanzo>  başım dönüyor , çok içmişim!Ceyda28: başım dönüyor , çok içmişim
[20:41] <Galvatron> ManoloMtnez: Have you tried recovery mode?
[20:42] <Pici> !tr | Hanzo
[20:42] <ManoloMtnez> Galvatron: yes, that's where I'm seeing the error message
[20:42] <aeon-ltd> fizyplankton: isn't grub installed to /boot ? which will be in your / by default
[20:43] <GatekeeperZA> how do i restart service to activate net /etc/hosts without restarting pc
[20:43] <alienmindtrick>  I'm using Google Chrome in Natty and I have problems with Java on some sites. I'm using the current Java 6-26 version. Any idea what I can do?
[20:43] <nnull> when performing eg: "apt-get install firefox" --- where does apt-get put the tar.gz files before it makes them? equivelent of c:/windows/temp ?
[20:43] <ManoloMtnez> nnull: /temp ?
[20:43] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: I have everything enabled except for Opera beta.  That should include what I need, no?
[20:44] <ManoloMtnez> nnull: Sorry /tmp I meant
[20:44] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: And I even tried 10.10 and Windows XP in VirtualBox, so I have a real problem
[20:44] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: Have you tried Chromium?
[20:44] <llutz> nnull: /var/cache/apt/archives    except its .deb and not tar.gz
[20:44] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, everything ? how did opera repository get in there ?
[20:45] <nnull> hmm ManoloMtnez , im assuming apt-get deletes the files after making them then.. which makes sense i suppose.. mmk, thanks.
[20:45] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron: wait one and I'll try it
[20:45] <fizyplankton> aeon-ltd: yeah. it seem to be in all 3 partitions
[20:45] <nnull> ahh llutz , champion ;)
[20:45] <ManoloMtnez> nnull: yes, the straight dope is elsewhere :P
[20:45] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: In other software
[20:45] <aeon-ltd> fizyplankton: three different OSes?
[20:45] <Galvatron> ManoloMtnez: It's hard to find any soution if you don't have an acces to any terminal
[20:46] <ManoloMtnez> Galvatron: I know!
[20:46] <aeon-ltd> fizyplankton: sorry gotta go; good luck
[20:46] <fizyplankton> yeah 2 lucid installs, and one natty install (which i want to unumatall). also, i have a winxp install, but i KNOW that GRUB isnt there
[20:46] <ManoloMtnez> Galvatron: Should I reinstall? That seems like overkill...
[20:46] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, type ia32 ...see what comes up
[20:46] <Hanzo>  off yaa!Ceyda28: off yaa!Ceyda28: off yaa
[20:47] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, , make sure you click reload on synaptic first
[20:47] <Galvatron> ManoloMtnez: It might be the fastest way out.
[20:48] <clix> I can't see anything that looks like a camera in sudo lshw - there is an unclaimed serial device and and unclaimed communication device, could it be one of those?
[20:48] <ManoloMtnez> Galvatron: OK, thanks. It'll be my third Natty reinstall. Not having luck with this version, no sir.
[20:48] <llutz> clix: try "lsusb"
[20:49] <SockPants> i've managed to run the live test version now
[20:49] <SockPants> but i can't open firefox
[20:49] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: I have microcode.ctl, grub-efi-ia32, elilo, grub-efi,refit, libasm0 and libasm0-dev
[20:49] <SockPants> i click it, it starts to blink, then it goes back to normal.
[20:49] <zaksoldier> Hi
[20:49] <Hanzo>  ne diyo bunlar ya
[20:49] <Galvatron> ManoloMtnez: As for Intel , try xorg-edgers and kernel PPA with the latest version of intel-dedicated DRM-next kernel.
[20:49] <HelloWorld123> I'm getting ready to re-install my Natty, too.
[20:49] <jduke128> ne
[20:50] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron: OK, I just installed and tried to use Chromium with Java. Nope.
[20:50] <Odun> Linux kanali
[20:50] <clix> llutz, two integrated rate matching hubs and two root hubs in lsusb - nothing else. the camera is a built-in one on this laptop, so i'm trying to figure out the model
[20:50] <Odun> sen yaz
[20:50] <Odun> senin mesajin gidiyor onlara...
[20:50] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: Forgot that Chrome and Chromium are pretty much the same thing.
[20:50] <llutz> clix: was just a guess since my netbooks camera is usb :) sry cannot help
[20:50] <ManoloMtnez> Galvatron: Thanks a lot for the advice
[20:51] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: Did you see what I have?  I haven't a clue as to what that is and if it is ia32
[20:51] <Odun> hi
[20:51] <HelloWorld123> but my CD-Rom is physically  busted (won't open); for whatever reason my USB installer won't boot.  Is there a way to double check the USB installer to make sure it's valid?  It looks valid from doing ls on it, but I don't know what I'm looking for.
[20:51] <Odun> whats up
[20:51] <Odun> did u like new website ?
[20:51] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, are actually running a 64bit install ?
[20:51] <HelloWorld123> Anyway, if I can't boot my USB drive, can I just run the installer from the old Natty?
[20:51] <Seven_Six_Two> okenobi_, so xine in kde (with effects) doesn't move up and to the left like it does in unity
[20:51] <sburwood1> yup
[20:51] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron: What's frustrating is that when I do the Java version test on the Java website, it says that I'm up to date.
[20:51] <Odun> we give gifts to all people who is posting topics to website
[20:51] <Pici> Odun, This channel is for Ubuntu support only.  If you mean to have a private conversation, then you may do so in private.
[20:51] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: Yup
[20:51] <SockPants> HelloWorld123: i just had a similar problem, ended up using unetbootin to make the usb installer and it worked
[20:51] <Seven_Six_Two> okenobi_, sorry, I meant "ok"
[20:51] <Odun> can you help website greece version?
[20:52] <Odun> nice
[20:52] <Odun> we make server international this time we hope big people count
[20:52] <Odun> i know your problem  our other gm...
[20:52] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: At least I think so ...
[20:52] <Odun> i will talk about that on private with u
[20:53] <Odun> jason , kimsin ?
[20:53] <Odun> cancel ?
[20:53] <SockPants> how do you change the keyboard layout in 11.04
[20:53] <HelloWorld123> SockPants: tx, installing unetbootin now
[20:53] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: You might be best asking in the "chromium-support" channel
[20:53] <SockPants> HelloWorld123: hope it helps
[20:54] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron: Does that still hold true since it's now proven to be an issue in Chrome, Chromium and Firefox?
[20:54] <Seven_Six_Two> both xine and vlc choke and die under unity, but not kde. where should I start looking for a bug?
[20:54] <Galvatron> SockPants: System > Preferences > keyboard
[20:54] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: besides, I need Firefox 3.6.  I downloaded a Firefox 3.6.  I did tar -jxvf the bz2, but don't know what to do next.
[20:54] <SockPants> Galvatron: first off, where is 'System'
[20:55] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: Besides, I am wondering if the FF 3.6 is 16 bit or 32 bit
[20:55] <nnull> SockPants: ALT+F1 ; RIGHTARROW ; RIGHTARROW ; lol
[20:55] <Galvatron> SockPants: GNOME or Unity, or something else?
[20:56] <katsrc> hey
[20:56] <sburwood1> Is there a chat room for Firefox support?
[20:56] <katsrc> is there a ubuntu version for mobile devices?
[20:56] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, which ubuntu install version ?
[20:56] <SockPants> Galvatron: probably unity, it's the latest live version
[20:56] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: Are you using IceTea, or Sun java?
[20:56] <katsrc> is it unity? or is it unity 3D?
[20:56] <katsrc> 2D*
[20:56] <tranquilwaters_> Why is the purchase section in ubuntu software centre empty for kubuntu users? Can't I buy games because I rather use KDE than gnome? Aren't the buntu
[20:56] <edugonch> Hello, I have xubuntu install and I can't use the headset, it doesn't work at all, the speakers work ok, what can I do?
[20:56] <tranquilwaters_> buntu's the same under the hood?
[20:57] <Galvatron> SockPants: Then click on the white ubuntu logo in upper left corner and type "keyboard"
[20:57] <tranquilwaters_> edugonch: maybe stupid question but does the headset have a volume button?
[20:57] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron:  Sun Java
[20:57] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: 11.04 Natty.  Kernel 2.6.38-8 Gnome 2.32.1
[20:57] <basselito> Having problem making a menu entry for a shell script... anyone?? Tried two versions in alacarte: /path/script.sh and /bin/sh /path/script.sh... what do I do wrong??
[20:57] <SockPants> Galvatron: ah, nice, got it. where is it actually located though
[20:57] <SockPants> i feel like it's a bit of a cheat
[20:57] <tranquilwaters_> edugonch: maybe it's muted, or else some hidden channel in sound mixer settings is muted?
[20:58] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: Try IceTea
[20:59] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron: I ditched IceTea in 10.10 because the updates lagged behind the real world so badly.
[20:59] <Galvatron> SockPants: It's just the Unity being not as intuitive
[20:59] <clix> llutz, haha - to make the webcam work, just needs to be turned on with the fn+F6, that was easy
[20:59] <llutz> clix: :D
[20:59] <SockPants> Galvatron: k
[21:00] <llutz> clix: life can be soo easy
[21:00] <SockPants> any reason why firefox might refuse to start? live version, 1gb ram, atom n450
[21:00] <Randytravis> hi :)
[21:00] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ...there's gotta be something missing there
[21:00] <clix> ubuntu is awesome
[21:00] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: What is the adress of pastbin?
[21:00] <llutz> !paste
[21:01] <Galvatron> clix: Especially after you make it look and behave just like Mac OS :P
[21:01] <Randytravis> firefox just refused to start for me too lol i think it was cuz i downloaded the greasemonkey add on which inscripts
[21:01] <sburwood1> BluesKaj: And how do I list /etc/apt/sources.list?
[21:01] <HelloWorld123> SockPants: the latest Ubuntu on Unetbootin is 10.04.  I have the 11.04 ISO in my downloads folder.  Can/should I set the ISO to 11.04 ?  Should I use the HDMedia option?
[21:01] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: I would stil recommend trying IceTea.
[21:01] <SockPants> i just booted it... assuming stuff like that works
[21:01] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron: Should I uninstall Sun Java first?
[21:02] <SockPants> HelloWorld123: the version i downloaded has 11.04 as well (scroll down?) but i had the iso already so i just used the 'iso' option at the bottom instead.
[21:02] <BluesKaj> sburwood1, alt+f2 type /etc/apt/sources.list , then copy and paste the text into pastebin
[21:02] <Randytravis> i use 10.04 i think thats the militairy version
[21:02] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: yes, so you will be sure it's not getting in the way (like removing Flash prior to trying Lightspark/Gnash)
[21:02] <HelloWorld123> SockPants: I just installed it, and I also run the package updater for good measure.  I swear it doesn't have 11.04, but it does have "Daily Live"
[21:02] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron:  Will do!
[21:03] <HelloWorld123> SockPants: there you go ... I'll just use the ISO that I have.
[21:03] <SockPants> HelloWorld123: where did you get it from=
[21:03] <alienmindtrick> Second issue:
[21:03] <alienmindtrick> I just did a fresh install of natty a couple days ago and now when i start my machine i have to log in 3 times, every time. what gives and how do i remedy it?
[21:03] <HelloWorld123> SockPants: I df/l'ed my Unetbootin from the Synaptic Package Manager
[21:03] <tauren> sometimes when my 11.04 system sits idle, it goes to a blank screen but keyboard or mouse actions do not show the login box.
[21:03] <Galvatron> Being kicked out to the login screen might mean X-server restart
[21:04] <tauren> I can ctrl-alt-F1 and get a terminal to restart system
[21:04] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: What is your video card?
[21:04] <SockPants> HelloWorld123: ah ok, i'm using it on windows and downloaded it from the website, maybe the one in the repo's is old. it might work anyway with the iso though
[21:04] <SockPants> dont see why not
[21:04] <sw0rdfish> hey guys how do I install python-software-properties in 11.04?
[21:04] <edugonch> tranquilwaters_, the headset is ok with the volume :P
[21:04] <Randytravis> tauren cause u have it on auto hibernate
[21:04] <HelloWorld123> and then what do I do with it?  boot it?
[21:04] <tauren> Randytravis: it doesn't always do this though
[21:05] <tranquilwaters_> edugonch: ok, I just thought I'd ask, that was my problem when my speakers didn't work, alsa muted some hidden channel somewhere XD
[21:05] <tauren> sometimes it gives me a login box, other times it doesn't
[21:05] <Randytravis> i know my laptop does the same thing tauren
[21:05] <SockPants> HelloWorld123: if it's done creating the usb installer it should ask you to reboot and you can boot it
[21:05] <sburwood1> brb
[21:05] <HelloWorld123> SockPants: writing now ...
[21:05] <SockPants> don't know what you were planning to use it for
[21:05] <trism> sw0rdfish: sudo apt-get install python-software-properties; is there some error?
[21:05] <HelloWorld123> it's asking!
[21:05] <HelloWorld123> SockPants: I'll reboot it
[21:05] <tauren> Randytravis: so do you turn off auto-hibernate to solve it?
[21:05] <HelloWorld123> tx
[21:05] <SockPants> np
[21:06] <sw0rdfish> yes trism, its unsatisfied with the dependency Python being 2.7.1 or whatever
[21:06] <edugonch> Well, I have all the alsa channels up
[21:06] <Randytravis> if i shut my laptop screen it will hybernate and i cant use any keys or mouse or options besides turn it off for 2 mins and restart it but if i dont shut the screen it will go to the blank screen saver
[21:06] <trism> sw0rdfish: pastebin: apt-cache policy python python-software-properties;
[21:06] <Randytravis> turn auto hibernate off and keep only the screen saver
[21:07] <virgo> How to save active sesstion in ubuntu with all the programs open, so when i next time start computer, all these programs will start automatically?
[21:07] <Monotoko> hey guys...do any of you know if Gnome3 is any good? Better than Unity?
[21:07] <tauren> Randytravis: this is a desktop system. power management says Never put to sleep on AC power, put display to sleep after 0:15
[21:07] <Noelle> what type of partition should i install ubuntu on?
[21:08] <Monotoko> Noelle, ext4
[21:08] <camille> hey does anyone know how i can close an individual program in ubuntu 11.04? when things start running very slow
[21:08] <Randytravis> hiim idk dude
[21:08] <camille> i was using ctrl+alt f1
[21:08] <Monotoko> Noelle, if you don't want Windows to be able to access it, otherwise ext3
[21:08] <tauren> Randytravis: ok, thanks
[21:08] <camille> but that shuts down just everything
[21:08] <SubKid> c
[21:08] <camille> and i have to use the command line to get back in and it is basically just a command line restart
[21:08] <camille> which is not what i want
[21:08] <Noelle> monotoko should it be primary or logical
[21:09] <Monotoko> Noelle, primary
[21:09] <camille> i feel like i have to hard restart the computer at least once a day
[21:09] <Monotoko> although I think Linux can run from Logical
[21:09] <Galvatron> Monotoko: First of all, it's still in development, so you better prepare a separate Ubuntu installation for experimenting with it. It also has a different configuration file format, so it it highly recommended to make a backup of all your configs in home folder.
[21:09] <camille> maybe since i have a netbook, i just need to be mindful not to run too many programs at once
[21:09] <wols_> Monotoko: you think right
[21:09] <demonboy_> hey guys
[21:09] <misa_> camille, CTRL+ALT+F7 gets you back into unity after killing processes in CTRL+ALT+F7
[21:09] <demonboy_> i have a uestion
[21:09] <Noelle> monotoko if i boot from a ubuntu boot disk will it create the partition for me or do i have to manually do it
[21:10] <demonboy_> question*
[21:10] <camille> misa, good tip. will try!
[21:10] <sw0rdfish> ummmm I found this; trism python-software-properties is <IP_ADDRESS> and python is 2.7.1 ..........how ever I just found this
[21:10] <sw0rdfish> trism, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+package/python-software-properties
[21:10] <sw0rdfish> I need to set that up I believe
[21:10] <Monotoko> Noelle, are you installing it alongside Windows?
[21:10] <SockPants> camille: if you right click the program icon in the bar on the left you can select 'quit', that basically closes it entirely.
[21:10] <HelloWorld123> USB drive wouldn't boot.
[21:10] <HelloWorld123> I must have a bad ISO
[21:10] <demonboy_> any1 here know about using a aircard w/ gnome?
[21:10] <camille> SockPants, sometimes that won't work
[21:10] <Noelle> monotoko no
[21:10] <sw0rdfish> trism: can you guide me through it, I just download that and do dpkg on it?
[21:10] <Monotoko> Noelle, it'll give you an option to just take the entire drive...click that and it will do the rest
[21:10] <SockPants> camille: ah. well if i want to kill an individual application i just use terminal
[21:11] <camille> SockPants, just looking for other options. what i found online was a lot of command line stuff that i don't know how to do quite uet
[21:11] <Noelle> monotoko thanks
[21:11] <trism> sw0rdfish: the reason I wanted policy was not for the version, but for the repos from which the packages come from
[21:11] <wols_> sw0rdfish: pastebin the real output of  sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[21:11] <mikubuntu> my friend just downloaded natty, and says his mouse won't open/launch anything.  is there some known issue?
[21:11] <wols_> !info python
[21:11] <camille> SockPants, that;s the question. when the computer is running deadly slow, how to get to terminal and kill that individual program
[21:11] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron:  Sorry for the delay. Integrated graphics card.
[21:11] <Monotoko> Galvatron, I will install it in a VM....see if it works
[21:11] <camille> SockPants, I guess I need to noodle with the program a bit more. still fairly new
[21:11] <demonboy_> does any1 know about bus cards in gnome?
[21:12] <wols_> demonboy_: ask your real question
[21:12] <demonboy_> i mean aircards
[21:12] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: Fact. Sorry, I'm a bit sleepy.
[21:12] <sw0rdfish> ok i'll pastebin the apt-cache policy on both of them trism :)
[21:12] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron: 'S OK, I'm always slow...  ;-)
[21:12] <katsrc> hey, Ubuntu server, does it have any proprietary software?
[21:12] <fortiss> does anyone know of a lock screen similar to an iphone for ubuntu?
[21:13] <demonboy_> i use a linux distro and it sees the sierra wireless driver when i use command: # usb-devices   but idk how to get it to connect
[21:13] <wols_> fortiss: xlock?
[21:13] <Galvatron> Galvatron: In this case I would even more strongly recommend trinx Xorg-edgers and Drm-next Intel kernel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[21:13] <dougmencken> hi, I need some help; I de-installed english lang via GUI, now I got a lot of "???"
[21:13] <misa_> @camille Do you know how to kill processes in ctrl+alt+f1?
[21:13] <wols_> demonboy_: usually wvdial
[21:13] <io> will removing the .Trash folder solve most problems with Trash not emptying via the menu?
[21:13] <dougmencken> how to get it back via apt-get install?
[21:13] <io> or is this a good suggestion?
[21:13] <Galvatron> alienmindtrick: In this case I would even more strongly recommend trinx Xorg-edgers and Drm-next Intel kernel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[21:13] <camille> misa_, no. all i know is that i do sudo service gdm restart
[21:13] <camille> misa_, :(
[21:13] <wols_> dougmencken: you cannot deinstall "english lang" (sic)
[21:14] <demonboy_> thnaks
[21:14] <wols_> !pm > fortiss
[21:14] <sw0rdfish> trism: http://pastebin.com/pderTtx0
[21:14] <camille> misa_, that was something i figured out through guess and test method
[21:14] <camille> misa_, i believe there is a better way
[21:14] <dougmencken> wols_: <wols_> dougmencken: you cannot deinstall "english lang" (sic)
[21:14] <camille> misa_, feel free to lead me there
[21:14] <wols_> camille: yes. man ps, man killall
[21:14] <jimmy51_> !ot
[21:14] <demonboy_> will # sudo apt-get install wvdial install it?
[21:14] <dougmencken> wols_: oops, sorry: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/37679705.png/
[21:14] <wols_> demonboy_: sure but it won't configure it
[21:15] <demonboy_> lol
[21:15] <dougmencken> wols_: that's a screenshot of what I do have now
[21:15] <misa_> Camille, it's easy. For example, if firefox is slow, press ctrl+alt+f1, log in and type "killall firefox", then ctrl+alt+f7 to get back into unity. You're done.
[21:15] <demonboy_> will it put it in the drop down menu
[21:15] <jlholmes21> hi all
[21:15] <wols_> !locale
[21:16] <wols_> dougmencken: ^^
[21:16] <trism> sw0rdfish: I see, you are on lucid, but are just using the python version from natty, that is probably not the greatest idea
[21:16] <alienmindtrick> Galvatron:  OK, that was absolutely greek to me.
[21:17] <sw0rdfish> trism I believe I'm on Natty Narwal
[21:17] <sw0rdfish> thats the what the message said when I logged in via ssh trism
[21:17] <sw0rdfish> well isn't there a way to make sure?
[21:17] <el_seano> sw0rdfish: you can confirm by typing `lsb_release -a` into a terminal
[21:17] <demonboy_> ty for ur help wols yal are more helpful than the official BT irc chat
[21:17] <demonboy_> all they say is go to google
[21:18] <improveupon> can anyone recommend a p2p client program available in the repositories other than mldonkey or one strictly for torrents?
[21:18] <demonboy_> even though i have tried to find it
[21:18] <sw0rdfish> yep el_seano, trism, its been confirmed ---> Description:	Ubuntu 11.04
[21:18] <trism> sw0rdfish: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list, because policy has lucid repos
[21:19] <sw0rdfish> hmm ok
[21:19] <guntbert> !trash | io
[21:19] <wols_> demonboy_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G
[21:19] <wols_> !torrent > improveupon
[21:19] <io> guntbert: if the Trash doesn't empty via the GUI it is a good idea to remove the folder via Terminal?
[21:20] <wols_> io: no
[21:20] <io> wols_: then what is the solution? I'm not, or have never experienced this issue - it is for a friend
[21:20] <io> I work via Terminal constantly, so 'rm' has always been my friend :-)
[21:20] <Noelle> Installing 11.04 as we speak... Windows XP and Vista failed to install on this machine so we'll see the outcome
[21:21] <guntbert> io: remove the content of that directory via terminal
[21:21] <osmosis> what can i use to check my current eth0 tx rx rate?
[21:21] <improveupon> !P2P
[21:21] <wols_> io: you can rm files, but don't rm directories
[21:21] <improveupon> sorry
[21:21] <fortiss> I have a linux box running a web app in chrome in full screen mode. I need a lock screen that will unlock from touches on the screen not from a keyboard. Something similar to an iphone. The lock screen is not for seciruty is just to make sure buttons on the web app are not pushed without knowing it. Thanks in advance for the help
[21:21] <wols_> osmosis: iptraf
[21:21] <io> wols_: ok, so if you remove the directory then Ubuntu won't re-create it?
[21:22] <HelloWorld123> I'm downloading a new ISO for my USB install (It says it'll take about a half hour).  Is there anything I need to check on my USB stick?  Like I notice that it came pre-formatted with vFAT.  Is vFAT okay?  Should I clean the partitions of my USB stick if the ISOs aren't booting?
[21:22] <jlholmes21> yes helloworld123 you should
[21:23] <osmosis> wols_, thx
[21:23] <sw0rdfish> sorry this took so long trism: http://pastebin.com/hUrTuTCf
[21:23] <guntbert> !md5sum | HelloWorld123 check it!
[21:23] <sw0rdfish> trism: but yeah I can tell its all using Lucid!
[21:23] <blz> HelloWorld123, normally the flash installer will format the medium appropriately, so you shouldn't have to worry about anything
[21:23] <dougmencken> thx4all
[21:23] <dougmencken> see oyu
[21:23] <jduke128> ee
[21:24] <Noelle> Does anyone know of any desktop wireless cards that are compatible with Ubuntu 11.04?
[21:24] <improveupon> sorry but if a person tells you "see !P2P", how exactly do you do that? is that on some faq?
[21:24] <wols_> improveupon: /msg ubottu p2p
[21:24] <fortiss> Helloworld123, I recently tried to install ubuntu on a usb stick but it just installs the live version. If that not what you want you CAN run ubuntu directly from the usb stick by booting from a live cd/usb stick and installing to the usb stick as you would a HDD
[21:24] <improveupon> thank you
[21:24] <HelloWorld123> !p2p (for example) :
[21:24] <blkdg> hi, how do i upgrade a package where the software centre's version is a bit behind the developers.  Calibre - specifically....
[21:24] <guntbert> !askthebot | improveupon
[21:24] <misa_> Noelle, would USB wireless dongles do?
[21:24] <wols_> HelloWorld123: no, NOT !p2p. you don't want to spam the channel
[21:25] <tranquilwaters_> Noelle I used a SMC usb wlan unit, and it worked out of the box :-) not sure which type exactly, but it claimed to support linux on their website
[21:25] <trism> sw0rdfish: not sure why the system indicates natty, that isn't a stock sources.list though, anyway, easiest fix is probably to revert to the lucid python: sudo apt-get install python=2.6.5-0ubuntu1; then python-software-properties should install
[21:25] <Noelle> misa_ yeah, that would be fine
[21:25] <trism> sw0rdfish: unless of course there are deeper problems
[21:25] <fortiss> anyone know of an iphone like swipe to unlock app for ubuntu?
[21:26] <misa_> Noelle, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[21:26] <Noelle> tranquilwaters_ do you have a link to their site?
[21:26] <sw0rdfish> I don't think there are trism
[21:26] <tranquilwaters_> Noelle: I think it's SMC SMCWUSB EZCONNECT
[21:26] <tranquilwaters_> Noelle: smc.com
[21:26] <Noelle> misa_ tranquilwaters_ thanks
[21:26] <sw0rdfish> thanks trism, and hey installing it like that will remove the current version of python and install that one?
[21:27] <tranquilwaters_> it's a white usb stick, but I am not sure if they have types that don't work. I just remember that mine had a linux support claim on the product website and that it worked right away
[21:27] <trism> sw0rdfish: yes
[21:27] <sw0rdfish> cool
[21:27] <sw0rdfish> thanks trism :)
[21:27] <trism> sw0rdfish: you're welcome
[21:27] <wols_> trism: that python there is there for a reason. just downgrading won't work, since well, downgrading doesn't work and is not supported
[21:28] <blkdg> thanks anyhow
[21:28] <trism> wols_: he has lucid repos, the natty python is there, but it has no repo, that command just reverts to the version for the repos he has
[21:29] <wols_> trism: and besides from this little python problem, mixing different versions is a quick way to disaster. by getting python, his libc6 is now natty too, etc
[21:29] <FoxWolf> Just downloaded ubuntu 11.04, I can't get wireless to work (at all). That's on a WPA network, WPA 2 Enterprise Network (AES), and a open unsecured network. Any ideas on what to try? Plugging in through ethernet works fine.
[21:30] <wols_> FoxWolf: what chip?
[21:30] <FoxWolf> Intel i5
[21:30] <Galvatron> FoxWolf: Chhose the one with a security protocol your router uses
[21:30] <sw0rdfish> this is all to install nginx anyways haha
[21:30] <Gaming4JC> Noob question, how do I make "vncserver :1" run as a command at boot? :P
[21:31] <sw0rdfish> it needs to use add-apt-repository ppa....etc
[21:31] <trism> sw0rdfish: were there any issues installing the older python version? did it try to change any other packages?
[21:31] <wols_> !fino nginx
[21:31] <abys> hey, I've got a probleme with my laptop, it's a brand new xps 15z from dell and there is some drivers still not compatible in the current kernel. The trakpad and keyboard are not working so I use a usb one, how during my few attemps to mess with the install I always had my wireless working until I disable the bluetooth which disable the wireless too...since then there is no way I can get it back, even after a full format, reinstall still disable. Th
[21:31] <wols_> !find nginx
[21:31] <abys> e laptop doesn't have a wireless button, I have to use the laptop keyboard which is not working... could someone help me? :)
[21:31] <wols_> !info nginx
[21:31] <wols_> sw0rdfish: there. nothing more needed
[21:31] <sw0rdfish> well trism its a vps a friend made for me, actually when I did apt-get install python perl
[21:31] <sw0rdfish> both of them were installed
[21:32] <wols_> abys: rfkill
[21:32] <Giant81_> they are both suposed to be installed
[21:32] <sw0rdfish> wow nginx is soo small
[21:32] <sw0rdfish> its amazing
[21:32] <sw0rdfish> 80kb haha
[21:32] <Giant81_> apt-get install python perl i sthe syntax to install python and perl
[21:32] <wols_> Giant81_: depends on the ubuntu version what version of perl and python...
[21:32] <sw0rdfish> I know Giant81_
[21:33] <Giant81_> I figured, but I just saw the one comment, sorry should scroll up more
[21:33] <sw0rdfish> well hey I'm trying to install a version of nginx that JUST came out 20 days ago
[21:33] <sw0rdfish> maybe I should stick with the one in the repos from December 2010
[21:34] <abys> wols_:  0: dell-wifi : wireless lan, softbloked yes, hard blocked : yes     2: phy0: wireless LAN : Soft blocked  : no, hard blocked : yes
[21:34] <wols_> is there any reason why it has to be bleeding edge?
[21:34] <wols_> abys: and that's how you can unblock them again (usually)
[21:35] <abys> wols_:  ho, ok I look at the command
[21:35] <Happy> anyone have idea why my wireless worked fine in livecd and after installation ubuntu can't recognise my wireless card?
[21:35] <wols_> Happy: what does your kernel say? what does iwconfig say?
[21:36] <Happy> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[21:36] <wols_> why is it always broadcom? *sigh*
[21:36] <Happy> I know that I had to get the latest kernel on archlinux to get it work
[21:36] <noo> Hello.I'm trying to setup tor with vidalia on my ubuntu 10.10, but somehow I can't get it working it seems, because I start it and it's fine and no errors appear, but when I check my location through the browser he still knows exactly who I am. Does anybody know how to properly setup vidalia on ubuntu?
[21:36] <wols_> 4313 is a very old card IIRC
[21:37] <wols_> noo: proxy set?
[21:37] <Happy> but It's confusing since wireless worked during installation
[21:37] <Happy> nope
[21:37] <Happy> fresh install
[21:37] <abys> wols_: doesn't seems to work...
[21:37] <noo> wols_ what do you mean?
[21:37] <wols_> !doesn't work
[21:37] <Happy> iwconfig doesn't see my card
[21:38] <wols_> noo: inside firefox, is the proxy config set up?
[21:38] <wols_> Happy: then check your kernel output
[21:38] <noo> wols_ can't I make it systemwide? I'm using chrome.
[21:38] <wols_> noo: no
[21:38] <Rakke> fal
[21:38] <lafon> why do ati graphics cards kill my system>
[21:39] <wols_> well, maybe with a transparent mandatory proxy. outside the scope of this here, but you can easily google it
[21:39] <abys> wols_: the command doesn't have any effect, the status is the same
[21:39] <shingen> lol... I have a 56GB .xsession-errors file
[21:39] <wols_> abys: WHICH command?
[21:39] <Happy> what am I supposed to see in kernel output
[21:39] <shingen> that ate up my home partition :P
[21:39] <noo> wols_ ok how do I setup the tor network for chrome then and what exactly does it then what a plugin wouldn't do?
[21:39] <wols_> Happy: output from your wlan card driver. or even the lack of it
[21:39] <abys> wols_: rfkill unblock 0
[21:39] <Rakke> it wont take belgium ayerti keiboard laiout
[21:40] <wols_> noo: what do you talk about plugins? and I dunno how to set up proxies in chrome
[21:40] <wols_> abys: hence why I qualified it with "usually" :(
[21:40] <soapie> noo: it would be better to use the browser bundle
[21:40] <sw0rdfish> hey guys whats the difference between tryin to install, nginx for example, via apt-get install and just grabbing the .tar.gz file and extracting the source to a dir. and doing './configure' then 'make' then 'sudo make install' ...... as it says in http://wiki.nginx.org/Install
[21:41] <soapie> you're not going to secure chrome
[21:41] <Happy> I see nothing in dmesg
[21:41] <Happy> no wireless interface
[21:41] <Happy> no nothing -.-
[21:41] <Galvatron> sw0rdfish: Apt should be faster
[21:41] <abys> wols_: too bad :/ anything else I could check?
[21:41] <sw0rdfish> Galvatron, lol, thats all?
[21:41] <wols_> sw0rdfish: the difference is, the 2nd way breaks your ubuntu real quick and makes ubuntu obsolete. if you want to do it like that fine, but then you don't want to run ubuntu but something like linux from scratch or such
[21:42] <sw0rdfish> :o I see.
[21:42] <david_> can anyone let afew minutes to clear up a samba issue?
[21:42] <Noobneedhalp> I need help mounting a Drobo in Fstab permenantly so that is it accessible in shares please guys?
[21:42] <david_> what's a Drobo?
[21:42] <Galvatron> sw0rdfish: In compilatio you might probably add some flags to gain certain results
[21:42] <wols_> sw0rdfish: ever tried to remove software installed via "make install"? then you know why you want everything in .debs. and when you ever have experienced a broken PPA package (most of them are), then you know why you don't want to use PPAs
[21:42] <Noobneedhalp> david_, Data robot
[21:43] <lafon> external HDD system
[21:43] <tim167> hello, my soundcard stopped working all of a sudden here, (tried alsamixer, vlc, jack,pasuspender, youtube videos...) I'm afraid the soundcard is broken...any tips on how to find out?
[21:43] <wols_> david_: a NAS device. google it, you will get hits. why haven't you googled it already instead of asking?
[21:44] <Galvatron> sw0rdfish: What I don't like abou compilation is that sometimes you must download tens/hundreds of megs of dependencies, and after some time your system looks wors than a city dump
[21:44] <sw0rdfish> haha
[21:44] <wols_> Galvatron: build-dep is nice
[21:44] <sw0rdfish> nice one, 'city dump'
[21:45] <wols_> !pm > david_
[21:45] <Galvatron> wols_: I know
[21:45] <lafon> After realizing my system wasn't equiped to handle unity for 11.04 i installed an ati graphics card i had
[21:45] <fortiss> I'm running a web app on a ubuntu box and need a simple lock screen that acts like an iphone swipe to unlock lock screen. Its only to make sure if people were to brush up against it it wouldnt press buttons on the web app and that all buttons press on the web app are delibrate. It is a touchscreen with no KB. Any ideas?
[21:45] <lafon> but after that the computer wouldnt start up
[21:46] <burg> how can i use times new roman in a libreoffice document? on ubuntu 11.04 -- i`ve installed microsoft core fonts, but i still can`t see times new roman in font list in libre office writer
[21:46] <lafon> so i took it out and it worked again. this happened to 2 different models of cards
[21:46] <Galvatron> sw0rdfish: That's why I almost always copy the dependency list, so I can remove them afterwards
[21:46] <david_> wow I can't even see through the elitism-mist
[21:47] <wols_> lafon: how far did it get?
[21:48] <lafon> sometimes to grub
[21:48] <BluesKaj> david_, what mist.?..all will be clear if you just ask :)
[21:49] <lafon> sometimes to grub cli
[21:49] <wols_> lafon: that sounds like broken hardware. very broken
[21:49] <lafon> mboard or card?
[21:49] <claviusmond> please paste a link to any emulator channel, Im using gens/gs
[21:49] <wols_> grub has pretty much nothing to do with videocards, as long as there is a vesa mode to use
[21:50] <lafon> what i mean is that the comp will boot
[21:50] <lafon> get to said stage then restart
[21:50] <lafon> only happens with non-integrated cards
[21:50] <wols_> hardware. since it happens with addition of videocard, it's probably that card
[21:50] <wols_> possibly PCI-E 16x slot
[21:51] <lafon> but I tried 2 cards
[21:51] <lafon> oh
[21:51] <lafon> maybe. ill try moving my hdd and card over to a different mboard and see if that works
[21:51] <wols_> maybe your video cards don't get enough power
[21:52] <wols_> it definitely is no ubuntu problem if it can't get to grub tho
[21:52] <lafon> one video card needs external power the other not. so probably not
[21:53] <lafon> I'll try my "solution". if that doesnt work i can always complain to...someone. :P
[21:53] <sw0rdfish> !.deb
[21:53] <hase> Hello, I am wondering if I was to change my external harddrive from fat32 to ntfs to get past the 3.8 gig limit of data transfer would I lose the data on the external hdd
[21:53] <sw0rdfish> uhhhh what about cli
[21:54] <BluesKaj> lafon, you might consider the aleternate install if you have HW probs with a rekular install
[21:54] <sw0rdfish> nvm
[21:54] <misa_> hase, yes definitely
[21:54] <trism> sw0rdfish: did you get everything working with python-software-properties? after rethinking it, I agree with wols_, even though you have the lucid repos, the command I gave is probably a very bad idea without further investigation
[21:54] <boomboorum> Hi guys, does anybody which distro is using telepathy gabble as default app
[21:54] <sw0rdfish> hehe
[21:54] <hase> dang, ok thank you misa, not sure what I'll do now, lol
[21:55] <sw0rdfish> yeah I also checked on libc6 it actually is natty
[21:55] <gogi112> h1 there
[21:55] <misa_> hase, just back the data up somewhere, format to ntfs, put the data back in. That should do.
[21:55] <lafon> BluesKaj, I'd rather just get a different m'board. its too much hassle to get dial-up working again
[21:55] <nnull> jeanie says hi
[21:56] <sw0rdfish> well i'm about to install it from the .deb file
[21:56] <BluesKaj> lafon, mobo change , doubtful that will help
[21:56] <lafon> Blueskaj, Why?
[21:57] <BluesKaj> you'll have to reinstall due to HW changes, lafon
[21:57] <trism> sw0rdfish: probably the safest bet, although you should probably ask whoever set up the VPS why you have natty packages but lucid repos
[21:57] <tripelb> basic help. i go places, computer. then how "open in new tab" open in new window"?  - I've tried r-click and shot|cont|windowskey|alt-click. Isn't it possible?
[21:57] <tripelb> shot>>shift
[21:57] <sw0rdfish> he's not responding
[21:58] <lafon> not really a problem. i have some really wierd stuff on my edition of ubuntu
[21:59] <BluesKaj> lafon, well good luck , but keep the alternate in mind
[21:59] <misa_> boomboorum, isn't gabble a protocol, not app?
[21:59] <rethus> i have a sony laptop. FN + F1-F3 works for mute, decrease and increase loudness.
[21:59] <rethus> but brightness didn't work
[21:59] <rethus> where can i adjust this
[22:00] <rethus> spicctrl on command line works
[22:00] <sw0rdfish> trism do you think I should wait till he responds to me lol
[22:00] <sw0rdfish> which one do i choose here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+package/python-software-properties
[22:00] <lafon> BluesKaj, thanks and I'll see. i just don't relish the idea of killing my phone for a week just to get a videocard to work 'cause i want to watch a movie or play a game
[22:00] <boomboorum> misa_: I don't really know
[22:00] <__fish__> hm weird - my additonal nvidia driver says that it's activated but "not in use" *confused*
[22:01] <__fish__> is that normal?
[22:01] <boomboorum> misa_:  I guess not https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-gabble
[22:01] <Noobneedhalp> I need help mounting a Drobo in Fstab permenantly so that is it accessible in shares please guys. Any ideas?
[22:02] <knxville> Hi guys.. Do you also find that Ubuntu generally have a lower resolution or something like that, than a windows machine.
[22:03] <lafon> it does if you have a crt monitor. No im not that old
[22:03] <knxville> Perhaps it's just gnome, but everything is pretty damn bold.. Even Eclipse..
[22:03] <knxville> lafon, i have a quite new laptop.. dont think that's the issue..
[22:03] <misa_> boomboorum, gabble is just a way for Empathy to communicate with Jabber accounts. It's not an app in itself.
[22:04] <lafon> knxville, is that every time you login?
[22:04] <distressed_dude> Hey! I came here because I need some help with installing maverick. Can anyone help me?
[22:04] <boomboorum> misa_:  oh, thanks for clarification
[22:04] <knxville> lafon, yeah.. forever and always.. I just find everything so "big"..
[22:04] <lafon> knxville,check that the font is the one you like
[22:05] <knxville> lafon, im running ubuntu with 1280x800
[22:05] <lafon> Distressed_dude, elaborate please
[22:06] <shingen> so is having your .xsession.errors file blow up until your hdd is full a normal occurance?
[22:06] <velofille> shingen, nope
[22:06] <velofille> shingen, what is it filled with? some error ? or just debugging ?
[22:06] <wols_> shingen: no. as the name implies: errors
[22:06] <lafon> knxville, what i meant is that (as an example only) say that the font that all title bars on your windows will be comicsans
[22:07] <distressed_dude> @lafon When trying to install (partition stage) it freezes. When I try to repartition it through live mode, I get "Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: In part_create_partition_table: device_file=/dev/sda, scheme=0 got it got disk committed to disk BLKRRPART ioctl failed for /dev/sda: Device or resource busy"
[22:07] <knxville> lafon, yeah.. im using monospace size 8 now.. its way better..
[22:07] <fortiss> anyone know how to get an onscreen keyboard working for the lock screen?
[22:08] <shingen> velofille:  my machine was already crawling like a snail when my low hdd space warning came up, didn't have a chance to check... deleted the file, but since it was an open file handle, the space wasn't released, so I had to shut down my open apps and reboot to reclaim the space....
[22:08] <misa_> distressed_dude, are you trying to use some special partition setup?
[22:08] <shingen> wols_: that's a great help there, thanks!
[22:08] <lafon> distressed_dude, almost sounds like the disk is mounted
[22:08] <wols_> shingen: not exactly. and: you could have just closed X
[22:08] <velofille> shingen, restarting X will release the space probably, keep an eye on it and see whats filling it up from now on
[22:09] <distressed_dude> @misa_ no, just trying to erase the entire disk
[22:09] <shingen> wols_: if my hdd is full and I kill X and all the apps in it, I lose all my work... not the best way to help
[22:09] <misa_> distressed_dude, are you installing from cd or usb?
[22:09] <velofille> shingen, yeah but X was keeping the log file open in the first place
[22:10] <distressed_dude> @misa_ dvd
[22:10] <RoMar> dose anyone know how to setup a main dual boot on a external hard drive?
[22:10] <lafon> distressed_dude, if you don't want anything from it mount it externally to another computer and reformat then install
[22:10] <velofille> shingen, the other option is apt-get clean to clean out all old packages, giving enough space to save your work and restart X
[22:10] <wols_> shingen: next time run apt-get clean instead or delete *.gz in /var/log
[22:10] <shingen> velofille: right, but the machine was crawling already, I had critical work to save and trying to figure out what's wrong was not the best way to go
[22:10] <shingen> guys, this is a brand new install less than 1 day old
[22:10] <velofille> shingen, did you learn to autosave ? :)
[22:10] <shingen> I have no old packages...
[22:11] <velofille> in any case, tail -f the file
[22:11] <shingen> velofille: if my machine has no space, will it autosave? :P
[22:11] <velofille> find the error, post it into google :D
[22:11] <velofille> nah but it means you loose less when things break :)
[22:12] <misa_> distressed_dude, you could also try a gparted live iso
[22:12] <velofille> shingen, so you're on it now? tailing log?
[22:12] <distressed_dude> @misa_ Tried that many a moon ago. Doesn't work.
[22:13] <tripelb> I'd like some basic help. i click on Places, Computer to get a Nautilus file browser window (actually I use the Computer icon I put on my panel, next to the Username icon, and the Desktop icon). then how do I "open in new tab" or "open in new window"?  - I've tried r-click and I've tried all of the following combinations, shift|cntl|windowskey|alt-click. Isn't it possible?
[22:13] <shingen> velofille: yeah, but when it happens it happens fast, so there is no point in watching it....
[22:14] <tripelb> And when something labeled 31 G filesystem opens it has this long number of a name. Can I rename the volume?
[22:14] <lafon> tripelb, ctrl+t opens new tab
[22:14] <biggerfisch> so... I have a problem. on my ubuntu server, cron jobs don't seem to run anymore. I didn't make any changes, as far as I know, but none of my backup jobs seem to run. Any ideas?
[22:14] <edbian> tripelb: You cannot open  new tab from the place menu because you don't have a nautilus window open yet.  Once it is open you can right click to open folders in a new tab.
[22:14] <shingen> velofille: I just have to keep Virtualbox and Remmina up and do some web browsing to replicate... I've seen this a couple of times before using other distros based off 11.04, so it's definitely an 11.04 issue, but saving my virtubalbox state is the most important thing before finding the problem, as worse comes to worse, I drop ubuntu and try another distro
[22:15] <xperia> hello to all i have a netopia 3342 usb modem. All Leds do blink when i connect it to the Ubuntu Box but i dont see any possibility how to use it to make a internet connection. Can anybody help me ?
[22:15] <velofille> shingen, the fact that its virtualbox may be an issue, it could be related to the 3d required of unity in a virtual enviroment or similr
[22:15] <xperia> good will be if i had it at least in the ifconfig list but i dont see it there
[22:16] <lafon> xperia, ubuntu finds the modem
[22:16] <tripelb> edbian, what kind of window did I open? It looks like a nautilus window. I'm not right tabbing from the menu but from the window that came when I clicked on (my)Computer.
[22:16] <shingen> velofille: could be remmina too... I saw this on my laptop while running pinguyos (11.04 based), which I don't run vbox on...
[22:16] <xperia> lafon yes if i do lsusb it show it
[22:16] <tripelb> edbian, it is nautilus. I looked at about
[22:16] <edbian> tripelb: If you click on anything in places it opens a nautilus windows
[22:17] <xperia> i just need now somehow to make a internet connection to this usb modem in ubuntu
[22:18] <tripelb> edbian, yes. I'm not near that basic. I want to open something in a new tab. this isnt the soert of thing that should be difficult. or to open it in a new window. I am looking at a set of drives.
[22:18] <tripelb> xperia modems plug into your internet source usually. Is it a wireless adaptor for receiving wireless?
[22:19] <G00053> xperia: you need this driver http://accessrunner.sourceforge.net/driver.shtml
[22:19] <tripelb> xperia, and modems plug into your dsl or cable or phone line
[22:19] <xperia> tripelb no its simple wired analog modem
[22:19] <tripelb> xperia, well there you are, I didnt know.
[22:20] <xperia> G00053 thanks will try it !
[22:20] <tripelb> If I have more than one partition on this drive, will it show in "my computer? How do I see it? Must I use gparted?
[22:22] <coz_> tripelb,  it should not effect the speed of the system at all
[22:22] <coz_> tripelb,  if you are installing ubuntu you can direct it to one of  the partitions for install
[22:23] <tripelb> coz_, nothing *I* said was about speed of the system. (I'm in a parallel world) -- no I'm not installing ubuntu. I just want to be aware of my drives. Actually I want to copy what's on my other drives to my "big drive"
[22:24] <coz_> tripelb,  ah I see ,, sorry , I misunderstood
[22:24] <tripelb> I cant tel what's happening because all the partitions look like a windows file system or an ubuntu file system and I cant tell them apart when I open them. I want to name them. Howto?
[22:24] <tripelb> coz_,  NP I've done that lots.
[22:25] <tripelb> coz_, earlier today I was asked what my native language is. Hows that for feeling alienating. They think I'm stranger than American.
[22:25] <DAC486> hola alguien podria ayudarme como conectar x wifi mi ubuntu
[22:25] <G00053> tripelb: try this out for renaming drives/ partitions
[22:25] <G00053> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[22:25] <bhuey> what's the program that you can launch to install ubuntu on another hard drive
[22:25] <bhuey> ?
[22:25] <coz_> #ubuntu-es
[22:25] <knxville> How do I change the order of the icons in the unity launcher?
[22:25] <arand> !es | DAC486
[22:25] <JessicaRN> hey all, i have a very old laptop that will only boot the live cd for 8.1.  I want to use 8.1 to clone/resize the HD in that laptop to a 2nd HD attached via USB.  What's a good util to accomplish this?
[22:26] <trism> knxville: you can drag them around, but you need to drag them off the launcher first, don't let go, and drag it someplace else
[22:27] <knxville> trism, kool...
[22:27] <HelloWorld123> my <uname -m> says "x86_64", so I'm running 64 bit now.    Is there any reason that the 64-bit installer ISO wouldn't boot from a USB stick ?
[22:28] <knxville> Do you know why the menu is all messy when I press Superkey, it only shows media, internet, more apps.. not the last one.. or a little part of the last one.
[22:28] <knxville> I've just changed my fonts..
[22:29] <distressed_dude> To anyone: I still kinda need help after misa_ kinda timed out
[22:29] <lafon> sorry what happened distressed-dude
[22:30] <biggerfisch> dos anyone know why my cron jobs refuse to run, or even output an error?
[22:30] <xperia> G00053: i just looked with "modprobe -l" for the "usbatm" driver you told me and i see it is listed as loaded. rebooted now my ubuntu mashine but still dont see the modem connection in ifconfig. is it something else additional needed ?
[22:30] <distressed_dude> @lafon: I'm trying to install Maverick 32-bit from a DVD (using CD iso) but I can't because I can't repartition/erase/add partition on my disk.
[22:31] <knxville> Can I somehow make Unity auto hide?
[22:31] <abc123zyx> n
[22:31] <the_file> rm -r unity
[22:31] <abc123zyx> lol
[22:31] <lafon> distressed_dude, what did you use aside from gparted
[22:31] <JessicaRN> hey all, i have a very old laptop that will only boot the live cd for 8.1.  I want to use 8.1 to clone/resize the HD in that laptop to a 2nd HD attached via USB.  What's a good util to accomplish this?
[22:31] <the_file> rm /dev/sd*
[22:32] <abc123zyx> JessicaRN: use gparted, it can resize, look into it, should clone too
[22:32] <JessicaRN> abc: will it copy any partition type?
[22:32] <the_file> is udisk a directory or a file
[22:32] <the_file> there it is good
[22:32] <distressed_dude> JessicaRN: There's also a dedicated GParted live disc
[22:33] <abc123zyx> JessicaRN: actually if you want to clone, use clonezilla livecd, gparted probably won't do cloning
[22:33] <JessicaRN> distressed: you have a link for it?
[22:33] <JessicaRN> clonezilla live cd?  cool.  Link?
[22:33] <tripelb> GOOO53 your nick is not tab-completing so I have it wrong.  g00053 both ways. or you are gone. Yes I want to rename drives/partitions but these are Hard Drives, one is sata and the other 2 are IDE.
[22:34] <crubb> hey, can i tell do-release-upgrade to use karmic? I'm trying to go from jaunty to lucid, but i seem to upgrade to karmic first
[22:34] <abc123zyx> JessicaRN: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
[22:34] <JessicaRN> HUGS!
[22:34] <distressed_dude> JessicaRN: clonezilla.org
[22:34] <JessicaRN> should I get the ISOBOOT or the GRUB boot?  Any diff?
[22:34] <abc123zyx> JessicaRN: you can find everything with a google search - but here http://clonezilla.org/downloads.php
[22:35] <abc123zyx> JessicaRN: both should work, go with grub if you want
[22:35] <distressed_dude> JessicaRN: I'm guessing ISOBOOT
[22:35] <abc123zyx> distressed_dude: both will work it's just the bootup manager
[22:36] <JessicaRN> again, hugs to both of you!  TYVM
[22:36] <lafon> distressed_dude, do you want to keep anything on your current HDD?
[22:37] <abc123zyx> JessicaRN: no problem, you need to burn these on cds and run them before your computer starts, gparted will resize and clonezilla will clone the drive, look into gparted might have option of cloning, not too sure though, if not use clonezilla
[22:37] <distressed_dude> By the way, how in the world do I fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/630045/
[22:38] <abc123zyx> JessicaRN: what kind of format drive are you trying to clone?
[22:41] <distressed_dude> I. Can't. Partition. My. Drive. Help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/630045/
[22:43] <wildgoose> !patience | distressed_dude
[22:43] <shingen> distressed_dude: are you trying to  partition a drive in use?
[22:43] <abc123zyx> distressed_dude: is the drive mounted?
[22:44] <distressed_dude> @shingen: Um, if you mean by am I running anything from it then no.
[22:44] <shingen> distressed_dude: did you boot the operating system on it?
[22:45] <distressed_dude> @shingen running through a live disc @abc123zyx I can't even right click it to unmount it.
[22:46] <shingen> distressed_dude: try cli?  type 'mount' and you'll see all the devices that are mounted... if you see /dev/sdXX mounted, that's one of your hdds... unmount /dev/sdXX
[22:47] <p_res> you don't need to unmount optical media first. just use eject command
[22:48] <claviusmond> i need to open a file, via terminal, that has spaces in in, how do I substitute the spaces with? _ doesnt work
[22:48] <claviusmond> im using an emulator to pley lion king
[22:48] <Castatroy> please what command can use to get installation path and directories for packages
[22:48] <distressed_dude> @shingen: "none on /dev/"
[22:48] <shingen> distressed_dude: that's umount /dev/sdXX
[22:48] <shingen> distressed_dude: pastebin your output of mount
[22:49] <wildgoose> claviusmond, Try putting quotes around the file /home/games/"Lion King"
[22:49] <abc123zyx> claviusmond: you would just put it in parenthesis
[22:49] <claviusmond> thx wild
[22:49] <distressed_dude> @shingen http://paste.ubuntu.com/630047/
[22:50] <abc123zyx> claviusmond: you can put it around teh whole thing uf you want too "/home/games/Lion King/"
[22:50] <Castatroy> what is the equivalent of rpm -ql on ubuntu
[22:50] <abc123zyx> Castatroy: what does that do?
[22:50] <tripelb> in order to add a directory to a disk I am not booted or logged as I understand it I must sudo from terminal. I dont know the pathname to the disk, then the user directory would be /home/username/ so I can put the directory in there. But the path?? please help
[22:51] <Castatroy> abc123zyx: it lists all the installation paths for a package
[22:52] <abc123zyx> Castatroy: i could tell you if i knew what it did
[22:52] <shingen> distressed_dude: you're not gonna like this... but this forum article pretty much says that your drive is failing....   http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1768523.html
[22:52] <Castatroy> abc123zyx: it lists all the installation paths for a package
[22:52] <trism> Castatroy: possibly: dpkg -L package_name; if I understand you correctly
[22:53] <tripelb> in order to add a directory to a disk I am not booted or logged as I understand it I must sudo from terminal. I dont know the pathname to the disk, then the user directory would be /home/username/ so I can put the directory in there. But the path?? please help -- I cant go back of my filesystem with terminal
[22:53] <coco> what chanel should i go to for setting up network file systems
[22:53] <distressed_dude> @shingen NOOOOOOOOOOOO- Oh well, this is a pretty old laptop anyways. Was just trying to find a second use for it.
[22:53] <shingen> distressed_dude: could always buy a new hdd
[22:54] <tripelb> I need to copy everything from these old drives to my current drive. I need to make a folder-as a label so I can tell WHICH drive I am in.
[22:54] <trism> Castatroy: if you mean for an actual .deb package: dpkg-deb -c filename.deb;
[22:54] <distressed_dude> @shingen I'm not investing on this piece of crap... It does bug me though, smart data is ok.
[22:54] <soothsayer> I created a new user on Natty and overwrote the home directory with one from Maverick. Metacity doesn't work anymore. How do I get it working or switch to unity?
[22:54] <distressed_dude> well, good night folks!
[22:54] <Castatroy> oh ok
[22:55] <wasanzy> Please what is the mysql command to delete a database
[22:55]  * GatekeeperZA farts
[22:55] <tonyyarusso> wasanzy: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/drop-database.html
[22:55] <soothsayer> wasanzy: dropt table
[22:56] <soothsayer> wasanzy: Sorry, that's for a table, not db
[22:56] <wasanzy> ok
[22:57] <wasanzy> thx u both
[22:57] <tonyyarusso> tripelb: The reason you aren't getting an answer is because your question makes no sense.  You might want to try the channel for your first language.
[22:59] <Guest65406> check
[23:01] <TestingOne> ..
[23:02] <tripelb> tonyyarusso, I speak english. I am good at explaining things, normally. What's up?  I dont speak any language but American. What's the problem?
[23:04] <maco> tripelb: i'm guessing you made edits to the question you asked and the train of thought involved got chopped up in the process. want to try rephrasing?
[23:04] <Mandrew> tripelb, hehe that is funny though, i always thought that you guys in America spoke English ;)'
[23:04] <maco> Mandrew: don't tell an English person that :P
[23:04] <Mandrew> haha
[23:05] <th0r> Mandrew: three years in europe...and the only language problems I had were in England <smile>
[23:05] <Mandrew> hehe
[23:05] <cr0wb4r> Does anyone have experience booting Ubuntu off of an external hard drive on a mac? My main hard drive died and I would like to use an external until I get the internal replaced.
[23:05] <EastDallas> How do I stop x server from automatically starting in Natty?  I tried update-rc.d -f gdm remove, but it doesn't work in Natty.
[23:05] <tonyyarusso> tripelb: First, you add directories to filesystems, not disks.  Second, what does "not booted or logged" mean?  Third, I have no idea what the second sentence is.  Fourth, "But the path??" isn't a sentence.  Fifth, "what is "back of my filesystem"?  Could you try re-arranging your thoughts more completely?
[23:05] <Kevin147> I have a server with Ubuntu Server 10.10, and it will randomly disconnect from the internet, and I have the hardest time getting it to reconnect with dhclient... how do I fix this?
[23:05] <U-b-u-n-t-u> when I leave my computer on and I come back to it its unresponsive ... this only happen after the upgrade... suggestions?
[23:06] <EastDallas> Is gdm not the default in Natty?
[23:06] <tripelb> tonyyarusso, no problem I'm going to cry. I'm not here for grammar.
[23:06] <trism> EastDallas: you can either append: text to the kernel line when you boot or: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/gdm.override; works on natty, and will allow you to start gdm manually later with: sudo service gdm start;
[23:06] <tripelb> bye
[23:06] <trism> !upstart | EastDallas
[23:07] <trism> EastDallas: you can later remove /etc/init/gdm.override to have it start at boot again
[23:07] <maco> tripelb: or you could just rephrase it more clearly. simple sentences work best for getting everyone on the same page to help out
[23:07] <vrtigo> ive got a problem.. my pc with ubuntu 10.04 locked up, has happened a few times before as well, and its wiped empty the file i was working on
[23:08] <vrtigo> is it really gone burger, or could i perhaps get it back?
[23:08] <neurre> hi
[23:08] <vrtigo> was working in netbeans
[23:08] <neurre> if i run ubuntu in vmware, should i use 32 or 64 bit ubuntu?
[23:08] <neurre> host is 64bit
[23:08] <EastDallas> trism: what kind of feedback should I get from the console when I run that command, it just kind of hangs there
[23:08] <Kevin147> I have a server with Ubuntu Server 10.10, and it will randomly disconnect from the internet, and I have the hardest time getting it to reconnect with dhclient... how do I fix this?
[23:08] <neurre> i have 8gb on the host..
[23:08] <Bfh> vrtigo: try to see if theirs a .swp file inside on the folder u used, might have saved their
[23:08] <Wally> neurre: VMware Fusion?
[23:09] <neurre> vmware player
[23:09] <Wally> Depends on teh configuration of the host.
[23:09] <vrtigo> cheers, ill take a look Bfh
[23:09] <trism> EastDallas: which command? echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/gdm.override; ? it should problem for your password and the print manual to the screen, and there should be a file at /etc/init/gdm.override that contains the word manual
[23:09] <Bfh> vrtigo: use ls -a and look for .swp files
[23:09] <trism> EastDallas: sorry, problem = prompt
[23:09] <kejar31> who wants to start being a regular tester for me?
[23:09] <neurre> host is 64bit win7 pro with 8 gb
[23:09] <Wally> neurre: ask in #vmware
[23:09] <EastDallas> trism: OK, thanks...
[23:10] <Kevin147> Can someone please help me? I need this to be fixed.
[23:11] <trism> EastDallas: more information about the new override files here: http://upstart.at/2011/03/11/override-files-in-ubuntu-natty/ if you're interested
[23:11] <swim_> where can i find php.ini on ubuntu
[23:11] <swim_> lamp server
[23:11] <vrtigo> swim_: find / -name "php.ini"
[23:11] <Dulak> swim_: /etc/php5
[23:11] <vrtigo> probably in /etc/php5
[23:12] <neurre> on the web page ubuntu recommends 32 bit version
[23:12] <swim_> thanks guys!! do either one of you know why my browser would report http error 500 on the index of localhost when i haven't changed any settings??????
[23:12] <neurre> i wonder why?
[23:12] <Dulak> swim_: there are sub dirs there for the various types of php, cgi, cli, apache2, each one has it's own php.ini
[23:12] <U-b-u-n-t-u> when I leave my computer on and I come back to it its unresponsive ... this only happen after the upgrade... suggestions?
[23:12] <swim_> i think i'm looking for the apache2's php.ini
[23:14] <Dulak> neurre: because 64 bit is a little more complicated, and the recommendation is aimed at new users who might be confused, or not even have a 64 bit cpu.  32 bit is the safe choice since it will run on both 32 bit and 64 bit cpus
[23:14] <neurre> what is more complicated in it? not all software run as well?
[23:15] <rafael_oliveira> there are many codecs that does not exists in 64 bits system, for example
[23:15] <Dulak> the libraries, you have to have 64 bit versions
[23:16] <idi0t> hey ubuntu peoples
[23:17] <idi0t> i need someone to help me confirm a bug before i file a report
[23:18] <quiklogic> how do you show the menu bar in Smuxi cilent?
[23:19] <Eze> bonjour
[23:20] <L0Lcat> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaP7STV1aFs
[23:20] <quiklogic> how do you show the menu bar in Smuxi cilent?
[23:20] <vrtigo> Bfh: cant find any .swp files anywhere on the file system
[23:20] <vrtigo> bugger
[23:21] <vrtigo> it must have had the file socket open when it locked up and subsequently had powered off
[23:21] <rump> hows ubuntu for server?
[23:21] <ubuntu__> lubuntu is f***** brilliant :)
[23:21] <shingen> rump: works well, less filling... easy to install packages
[23:21] <SummerB> Hello, Um, In windows 7 If I had 2 files, and they were both "foo" , when I copied them to the same folder, one became "foo" and the other "foo (1)", If I had another "foo", and added it, it became "foo (2)", Now , If I had 2 folders with "foo foo(1) foo (2)" and added them, they became foo (1) foo (2)... foo (5) , and so on. How do I get this sort of behaviour from nautilus
[23:22] <velofille> rump, i'll second what shingen says :)
[23:22] <rump> is it desktop oriented?
[23:22] <LinuxMario> =(
[23:22] <velofille> lots of our customers use it with no problems (rimuhosting.com)
[23:22] <rump> versus like rhel or centos
[23:23] <rump> ah nice, LTS
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> rump, do you want a server or a desktop?  you can easily add services to desktop version, server is CLI only.
[23:23] <AuroraX> GUYS
[23:23] <rump> server
[23:23] <Jake123> I was just reading up on the notes for the Ubuntu 11.10 Alpha, and it says that the classic desktop is gone. IS that going to be in the final release!? Or is that just not included in the alpha.
[23:23] <idi0t> possible bug: i have problems relating to mouse support with a rotated monitor/desktop - external mice work fine and map fine when the desktop is rotated, but my internal touchpad does not
[23:23] <RenatoSilva> crazy problem. Question: is it possible to use an onboard audio device and a sound card at the same time? What? the onboard for front audio, the card for cases's back.
[23:23] <AuroraX> I NEED MONEY TO SURVIVE
[23:23] <AuroraX><EMAIL_ADDRESS><--- send me to this paypal account plz
[23:24] <Dulak> personally I prefer debian stable for a server, it's more stable than ubuntu, they don't make big changes every 6 months.
[23:24] <Corey> AuroraX: Enough.
[23:24] <SummerB> If you need any calcification, Don't hesitate to ask me. I will wait patently for your awnser , Thank you for your time.
[23:24] <neurre> can i make desktop not to boot to X11 login manager automatically?
[23:24] <rump> i'm just looking for a server for a simple  LAMP and not much else... secure, easy to maintain, etc
[23:24] <SummerB> Oh, And If you need me to repeat what I said, again, Don't hesitate to ask me.
[23:24] <SummerB> Thank you.
[23:25] <Jake123> I was just reading up on the notes for the Ubuntu 11.10 Alpha, and it says that the classic desktop is gone. IS that going to be in the final release!? Or is that just not included in the alpha.
[23:25] <SummerB> Jake123, It will be replaced by Unity 2D
[23:25] <shingen> nooooooOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
[23:26] <idi0t> jake the classic desktop is gone - go with the unity flow :)
[23:26] <Jake123> SummerB: ... can you disable that ridiculous side panel?
[23:26] <soreau> Is there a way to figure out what process is holding a lock on the package manager?
[23:26] <Dulak> Jake123: it's not in the default install, you'll have to install it to get it on a 11.10, that's how I understood it
[23:26] <rump> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[23:26] <SummerB> Jake123, I do not use Ubuntu. I came here for an issue with nautilus. This is the best place for awnsers to the sort of question I asked.
[23:26] <yhager> I've added a ppa, but when I do 'apt-get install <package>', I don't get the version I expect - the one in the ppa, rather the old one in the main repo. I ran apt-get update.
[23:27] <yhager> I am relating to https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/calibre
[23:27] <Jake123> Dulak: I hope you're right. I'd keep using my KDE desktop, but for whatever reason it's having major issues opening icons.
[23:27] <SummerB> So, may I assume nobody knows an answer to my query?
[23:27] <trism> Jake123: there is still gnome-session-fallback, which is like ubuntu classic (panel on the top/bottom, gnome applets, etc) but also a bit different being gnome 3, further discussion should be in #ubuntu+1 though
[23:28] <Dulak> Jake123: I am moving off ubuntu over unity, it's horrid.  I am waiting for the next LTS hoping they clear up the issues, but I am note hopeful.
[23:28] <SummerB> Alright, For the sake of the new people who joined, would it be adviseable to repeat it?
[23:28] <mmiller235> how do I install the arm gcc cross compiler?
[23:29] <SummerB> In windows 7 If I had 2 files, and they were both "foo" , when I copied them to the same folder, one became "foo" and the other "foo (1)", If I had another "foo", and added it, it became "foo (2)", Now , If I had 2 folders with "foo foo(1) foo (2)" and added them, they became foo (1) foo (2)... foo (5) , and so on. How do I get this sort of behaviour from nautilus
[23:29] <SummerB> If you need any calcification, Don't hesitate to ask me. I will wait patently for your awnser , Thank you for your time.
[23:30] <boomboorum> Is there a way to get my password from gnome keyring using terminal?
[23:30] <SummerB> royale1223, Remember to set your delay timer. Your host was not fully masked.
[23:30] <idi0t> i still need help, but i can wait
[23:31] <SummerB> royale1223, http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot-1MJ5OT9L.1308609075.png see?
[23:31] <royale1223> royale1223: how do i do that?
[23:31] <SummerB> royale1223, If your using xchat, don't autojoin channels. If you use irssi, read the rtm.
[23:32] <ejo> Hi... I have 11.04 installed on my brand new VPS.  The rest of apt seems to work fine (apt-get, apt-cache, etc.) but I can't "sudo add-apt-repository xyz".  Any idea what's going on there, & how I fix it?
[23:32] <royale1223> rtm?
[23:32] <SummerB> royale1223, Read the Manual
[23:32] <royale1223> i read it. irssi startup howto
[23:32] <royale1223> right?
[23:32] <SummerB> royale1223, man irssi
[23:33] <ejo> I just get "sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found"
[23:33] <trism> ejo: add-apt-repository is part of the python-software-properties package
[23:33] <SummerB> ejo, It means there is no such command on your system.
[23:33] <ejo> no kidding? ok
[23:33] <velofille> ejo,try the correct command
[23:33] <velofille> ejo, apt-add-repository
[23:33] <royale1223> doesnt mention in the manual.
[23:33] <ejo> cool beans -- I had no idea of that since I was following an "installing postgresql on ubuntu" tut
[23:33] <trism> velofille: they both exist in recent versions
[23:33] <ejo> dunno why they didn't mention that that command wasn't basic
[23:33] <io> royale1223: set your services password as the server password, or use SASL, or use WAIT <seconds>;, or use timer.pl
[23:33] <SummerB> royale1223, It dose. There is a delay timer for joining channels :P
[23:33] <ejo> thanks!
[23:34] <velofille> trism, maybe hes on an old one ?:D
[23:34] <io> royale1223: I'd suggest the first or second methods preferably
[23:34] <SummerB> io,  Dont give him the awnser haha :P
[23:34] <ejo> I dunno, fresh fresh install of 11.04 on a virtual private server :P
[23:34] <trism> velofille: possibly :) he said he was on natty though, but there was similar trouble earlier
[23:34] <velofille> ejo, might want to check it is 11.04 then?
[23:34] <ejo> it is indeed
[23:34] <royale1223> io, SummerB, freenode: autosendcmd: /^msg nickserv identify brahma;wait 2000
[23:34] <SummerB> anyway, Ill continue my own research on my query, unless someone here knows a bit about nautalus and thinks they may be able to help me :P
[23:34] <ejo> linode
[23:34] <EvilPhoenix> is it possible for me to write a Debian ISO to a USB flash drive using Ubuntu 10.04?
[23:35] <velofille> is it supposed to be in natty?
[23:35] <velofille> curious
[23:35] <ejo> no idea
[23:35] <io> royale1223: you have now compromised your password. -autosendcmd isn't suggested on a network that supports services passwords as server passwords, or supports SASL
[23:35] <trism> ejo: please don't tell me that: apt-cache policy python-software-properties; lists lucid as one of the repos
[23:35] <ejo> well thx for the springboard and I'll investigate further. ty ty
[23:35] <WXZ> how do I un-clean, I forgot
[23:35] <WXZ> there's a way to unconfigure things
[23:35] <Dulak> EvilPhoenix: unetbootin should be able to do that, just about any linux iso will work in my experience
[23:36] <io> royale1223: /server add -network freenode irc.freenode.net 6667 <services password> and then remove your current server
[23:36] <EvilPhoenix> Dulak, thanks
[23:36] <ejo> trism: nope, only us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[23:36] <ZykoticK9> EvilPhoenix, if you are using the Debian 6 ISO CD1 or DVD1 they are hybrid - you can use either dd or cat to create USB.  Personally I'd still recommend unetbootin however.
[23:36] <SummerB> I suggest using port 7000 or 7070
[23:36] <SummerB> the SSL ports.
[23:36] <io> royale1223: I also suggest changing your services password now, see '/msg nickserv help set password'
[23:36] <velofille> ejo, i suppose linode may have custom images for VPS anyway (i know we do at rimuhosting.com)
[23:36] <EvilPhoenix> ZykoticK9, i was looking of course to use one of the actual gui systems :P
[23:36] <rump> no /etc/hostname in ubuntu?  where do i change it?
[23:36] <trism> ejo: it would be just after that part
[23:36] <velofille> ejo, done usually because customers request or use certain things
[23:37] <io> !hostname | rump
[23:37] <ejo> velofille: yeah seems so.  So yeah, python-software-properties got me hooked up.  thanks again
[23:37] <ejo> trism: right after that there's just: natty/main i386 packages
[23:37] <rump> io: ty
[23:37] <ejo> that's all
[23:37] <WXZ> how do I undo ./configure
[23:38] <velofille> ejo, ie we install java libs, standard LAMP and working mail server on ours
[23:38] <ejo> sure
[23:38] <ejo> mine's barebonez
[23:38] <io> WXZ: 'make clean' or 'make distclean'
[23:38] <ejo> or so I read.
[23:38] <sagaci> Unpack the tar
[23:38] <WXZ> io: thanks
[23:38] <ejo> anyway, got this working thx!
[23:38] <trism> ejo: excellent, that's what it should be, there was a misconfigured vps earlier that had a similar problem, just wanted to make sure
[23:38] <royale1223> thats not my passwd
[23:38] <velofille> all good
[23:38] <royale1223> :p
[23:38] <io> royale1223: use the server password method, or SASL if you can be bothered to set it up
[23:39] <io> royale1223: SASL requires a stack of perl modules and other things, more information on the freenode blog
[23:39] <SummerB> I persoally use openvpn, proxychains and use ssl if avaiable.
[23:39] <royale1223> io: i'' read it up
[23:39] <royale1223> thank you
[23:39] <draioch> anyone know a file manager/browser that displays total folder content size
[23:40] <SummerB> draioch, right click in nautalus > properties. or the du --max-depth=1 command
[23:40] <io> draioch: '$ du /home/draioch'
[23:41] <SummerB> drag0nz, in .bashrc place  alias du1='du --max-depth=1'
[23:41] <SummerB> makes it alot faster
[23:41] <draioch> thx want to see folders size in a list for comparison purposes
[23:41] <CarlFK> I haev a ThinkPad T61 64659TU with Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) - 5+ google hits and I still have no sound.  my guess is I am not passing the right model=<some model name>
[23:41] <draioch> thx summerb io
[23:42] <velofille> CarlFK, lspci will give you the sound card
[23:42] <velofille> oh you did that nm
[23:42] <Wallyes> I need help with a costum resolution that I added for my projector. I know it's the right resolution but it still not fit. It's outside the screen. Please write me.
[23:43] <velofille> CarlFK, looks like you need alsa
[23:43] <velofille> CarlFK, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/intel-82801h-ich8-family-hd-audio-controller-recognized-by-alsaconf-but-doesnt-work-795300/
[23:44] <CarlFK> velofille: that's what I last read.  it kinda ends with "options snd-hda-intel model=<some model name>"
[23:44] <Bfh> Any1 Know why vuze stops working? -- it doesnt want to reload up anymore. only fix i found was restarting pc
[23:44] <SummerB> In windows 7 If I had 2 files, and they were both "foo" , when I copied them to the same folder, one became "foo" and the other "foo (1)", If I had another "foo", and added it, it became "foo (2)", Now , If I had 2 folders with "foo foo(1) foo (2)" and added them, they became foo (1) foo (2)... foo (5) , and so on. How do I get this sort of behaviour from nautilus
[23:44] <Bfh> vuze (torrent client)
[23:44] <neurre> does ubuntu run ok in virtualbox?
[23:44] <iceroot> neurre: yes
[23:44] <shingen> neurre: definitely
[23:45] <Monotoko> hey again guys..in Windows, if I put the computer to sleep I can wake it up by pressing some keyboard buttons...Ubuntu however does not respond to key pressing, any idea how I can enable it?
[23:45] <velofille> CarlFK, the model name would be the model 82801H at a guess - hang on
[23:45] <p014k> I've been doing some googling, but I can't seem to find the answer. In previous version of Ubuntu, you could go to System>Preferences>Sessions to manage which applications launch at login. I can't find this in Ubuntu 11.04. Anyone know where this is?
[23:45] <neurre> because i tried to install vmware and i got http://codepaste.net/7aavbx
[23:45] <SummerB> Monotoko, Hibernate will not respond to it on windows or ubuntu, Suspend will.
[23:45] <iceroot> !startup | p014k
[23:45] <Monotoko> SummerB, I am suspending...it isn't responding, I have to physcially hit the power button
[23:46] <minimec> Monotoko: Did you try the ESC key?
[23:46] <velofille> CarlFK, is it actually detecting it ?
[23:46] <SummerB> Monotoko, There is a button on your keyboard , should look like a moon. Press fn + that , if on a laptop :P
[23:46] <iceroot> p014k: as it seems its outdated for 11.04
[23:46] <Monotoko> minimec, I did...and SummerB I'm on a desktop
[23:47] <velofille> CarlFK, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=747054
[23:47] <SummerB>  Monotoko Windows dosent truely sleep, it eats your power while it dose. Thats why it still "active" , Pressing the power button is a better way to do it :P, But really, the buttons work on my laptop, might just be your computer.
[23:47] <p014k> Ya. Sessions got turned into Startup Applications. I should've read that more closely. Thank you.
[23:47] <velofille> CarlFK, looks like problem hardware though - lots of people having problems with it
[23:47] <CarlFK> velofille: http://dpaste.de/zw5b/  modprobe/dmesg -
[23:47] <Monotoko> SummerB, I was under the impression that sleep is the same in both Windows and Linux?
[23:48] <Monotoko> the power button is behind a cupboard door and it's incredibly awkward to get too...
[23:48] <SummerB> Monotoko, Idk if many know this, but there actually not. Windows reserve a small bit of activity, about 64-128mb of ram for activity
[23:48] <Alexander> hey
[23:48] <SummerB> Monotoko, Your best bet, map the power key to a key combination, I have no idea if it will work. But It might.
[23:49] <Alexander> are there any alternatives to proxifier for ubuntu?
[23:49] <Alexander> does anybody know?
[23:49] <SummerB> Alexander, Proxy chains
[23:49] <velofille> CarlFK, hmm check that last link
[23:49] <Alexander> SummerB, How do i install that?
[23:49] <rump> in /etc/hosts should i alias my static ip address to my hostname or added it to the 127/localhost line?
[23:49] <SummerB> Alexander, apt-get install proxychains
[23:49] <velofille> CarlFK, might just be a case of googling all the obscure things - once you get it going though blog about it to save others the hassle :)
[23:49] <io> !install | Alexander
[23:49] <JotaDos> Hey
[23:49] <Alexander> thanks SummerB
[23:49] <Alexander> :D
[23:50] <io> wrong one
[23:50] <SummerB> Alexander, Although, Proxies by nature are insecure. I suggest a vpn
[23:50] <JotaDos> Someone can help me with my screen resolution¿
[23:50] <Alexander> alex@alex-desktop:~$ apt-get install proxychains
[23:50] <Alexander> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[23:50] <Alexander> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[23:50] <Alexander> alex@alex-desktop:~$
[23:50] <Monotoko> SummerB, it's because the wakeup script doesn't listen for USB input automatically...i have figured it out
[23:50] <Alexander> what happened SummerB?
[23:50] <io> JotaDos: maybe, if you ask a real question
[23:50] <Monotoko> AlertEye, sudo
[23:50] <velofille> Alexander, apt is robably running in the background doing updates
[23:50] <io> Alexander: sudo
[23:50] <velofille> oh yeah, or add sudo :)
[23:50] <Monotoko> * Alexander
[23:50] <velofille> good catch io :D
[23:50] <Alexander> how do i add sudo?
[23:50] <velofille> put sudo in front of the command
[23:50] <io> Alexander: '$ sudo apt-get install proxychains'
[23:51] <Monotoko> Alexander, add it to the start of the command
[23:51] <SummerB> Alexander, ... Please, Learn to use the command line before you get into proxies. If you don't, Youll wind up with more headaches then a new mother.
[23:51] <rypervenche> Alexander: I have a good PDF for you, one moment.
[23:51] <Alexander> ok
[23:51] <JotaDos> it only let me set 1024x768 but i want 1280x1024
[23:51] <JotaDos> i search all over google and nothing help me
[23:51] <rypervenche> Alexander: Click on "Download it here." http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[23:52] <SummerB> Alexander, I suggest you use a vpn. Or make sure every proxy you use DOSE NOT keep logs, or else everything you do will be sold to companies, or the police.
[23:52] <io> !software | Alexander
[23:52] <io> Alexander: you should also read about installing software. plenty of good information above
[23:52] <rypervenche> Alexander: That PDF will teach you how to use the command line.
[23:53] <Alexander> io i think it installed
[23:53] <Alexander> how do i run it?
[23:53] <velofille> JotaDos, you may need to install drivers - check for other drivers for the video card (unsupported software in the menus)
[23:53] <io> Alexander: read the manual. '$ man proxychains'
[23:53] <SummerB> Alexander, You have to confiure it first to use the proxies you want. For that, Google.
[23:53] <io> SummerB: or the manual
[23:53] <SummerB> Alexander, There is NO graphic pannel for this. Its all from the command line.
[23:53] <Alexander> where is the manual?
[23:53] <JotaDos> velofille, all the drivers are working fine
[23:54] <JotaDos> is a old pc
[23:54] <SummerB> Alexander, type man proxychains
[23:54] <io> Alexander: I said. '$ man proxychains'
[23:54] <Alexander> ok
[23:54] <Monotoko> SummerB, it's strange...my mouse lights stay on even while in standby..so it must be getting power :S
[23:54] <Alexander> $: command not found
[23:54] <Alexander>  io
[23:54] <Alexander> sorry that was supposed to be one line
[23:55] <io> Alexander: don't type the $, that is to indicate a command done through Terminal (in short)
[23:55] <Alexander> ah
[23:55] <Alexander> sorry
[23:55] <velofille> JotaDos, weird
[23:55] <Wallyes> I need help with a costum resolution that I added for my projector. I know it's the right resolution but it still not fit. It's outside the screen. How do I fix it?
[23:55] <Alexander> man is /usr/bin/man
[23:55] <Alexander> proxychains is /usr/bin/proxychains what does this mean?
[23:56] <io> Alexander: what did you type exactly?
[23:56] <Alexander> sorry i mistyped it
[23:56] <Dulak> Wallyes: run xvidtune to tweak the screen
[23:57] <rypervenche> Alexander: You should read that PDF I sent you before continuing. Like SummerB said, you need to learn the command line first or you will be lost and make many mistakes.
[23:58] <Alexander> Thanks everybody!
[23:58] <rypervenche> Alexander: You don't need to read the entire thing either, but start learning how to use it.
[23:59] <Wallyes> Dulak: it says that its not possible, or not supported by my hardware configuration
[23:59] <Alexander> rypervenche, what if i want to use it with a program in wine?
[23:59] <Dulak> Wallyes: you'll need a custom modeline for your xorg.conf then
[23:59] <rypervenche> Alexander: If you want to use what with a program in wine?
[23:59] <plov> what's the best way to get a gui login to my ubuntu server? so i can control ubuntu remotely with a gui