[04:57] <dreamwave> large_muscles, ah.  thanks
[04:57] <large_muscles> dreamwave: I feel like a guru.
[04:57] <epic___> robbkidd,   disable gnome sounds
[04:57] <Belutz> anyone can help me with this --> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2797 ? i was trying to install eclipse
[04:58] <_jason> Gwildor:  why, they are awesome
[04:58] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[04:58] <robbkidd> epic:  A-ha.
[04:58] <ssam> i have read the upgrade notes and am familiar with running pre release linux distros, anyone know if its an ok day to upgrade? and borkages resently?
[04:58] <nalioth> Belutz: use apt to build the uninstallable packages
[04:58] <epic___> robbkidd,   working?
[04:59] <Belutz> nalioth, build?
[04:59] <nalioth> ssam: it should be fine, we are 8 days from final
[04:59] <LoKoZ> nalioth:what I do?
[04:59] <nalioth> Belutz: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[04:59] <ssam> nalioth, i though it should be pretty steady by now :-)
[04:59] <nalioth> LoKoZ: K menu > run application > type "kdesu kynaptic"
[04:59] <nalioth> ssam: it is
[05:00] <ssam> i'll give it a go then, thanks
[05:00] <robbkidd> epic: Yepper.  But what if I like all the *bonk* *bink-bonk* when clicking on things? :)
[05:00] <stefan_> nalioth: can I searh after people in all the channels?
[05:00] <epic___> robbkidd,   there is a write up on the wiki, I suggest reading it, under breezy, configuring sound properly
[05:00] <nalioth> stefan_: type /whois <persons nick>
[05:00] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[05:00] <Gwildor> stefan_, <whois {whomever}>
[05:00] <LoKoZ> i've synaptic but don't stare it limewire what I do?
[05:00] <Shin_Gouki> hi which browser WITH SVG suppport u would recommend for ubuntu?
[05:01] <epic___> works fine with for me
[05:01] <stefan_> someone who can help me with my network connection?
[05:01] <nalioth> LoKoZ: get it from here http://www.limewire.com/
[05:02] <epic___> Shin_Gouki, other browsers seem to work fine too
[05:02] <stefan_> having trouble connecting to certant domains
[05:02] <daved> what is the preferred method for recompiling a kernel in ubuntu?
[05:03] <chuck_gr> stefan like?
[05:03] <epic___> Shin_Gouki, http://www.svgx.org/browser/   for more info
[05:03] <LoKoZ> you are sure if it is a debian packege for limewire
[05:03] <stefan_> chuck_gr: can't connet for example hotmail.com but when I print the ip-number ut works fine
[05:03] <nalioth> LoKoZ: limewire is a java app. it runs on anything
[05:04] <nalioth> stefan_'s DNS is bodgered
[05:04] <epic___> stefan_,   you're having an issue with resolving
[05:04] <epic___> see if you can ping your nameserver(s)
[05:04] <Gwildor> LoKoZ, http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[05:04] <LoKoZ> but on the site hi request a operating sistem
[05:04] <stefan_> nalioth: how ca I fix it
[05:04] <LoKoZ> it
[05:04] <Fikrann> Hello
[05:04] <nalioth> stefan_: i'm not sure. i just know your DNS is bodgered. have you updated lately?
[05:05] <TiMiDo> Fikrann,  hello
[05:05] <stefan_> nalioth: sure. this morning.
[05:05] <Fikrann> Do any of you know about any audio players I could start on a headless machine and control over the network?
[05:05] <TiMiDo> Fikrann, mp3blaster
[05:05] <epic___> stefan_, st   can you open a terminal and cat /etc/resolv.conf  ?
[05:06] <nalioth> stefan_: i'm not sure about your problem
[05:07] <Fikrann> TiMiDo, thank you.
[05:07] <stefan_> epic___ please join #bigpaste. I got kicked out last time I pasted in here
[05:07] <TiMiDo> Fikrann, np
[05:07] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i have described my problem as good and short as i could here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=388627#post388627  do u have time to take a look?
[05:07] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[05:07] <TiMiDo> epic___, what do you meen?
[05:07] <TiMiDo> *mean
[05:08] <thompa> hi: anybody got bzflag installed?
[05:08] <TiMiDo> !info bzflag
[05:08] <ubotu> bzflag: (a 3D first person tank battle game), section universe/games, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>40516ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 3466 kB, Installed size: 5352 kB
[05:08] <TiMiDo> thompa, sudo apt-get install bzflag
[05:08] <epic___> TiMiDo   my moounted volumes in /media  show up on my desktop
[05:08] <epic___> mounted
[05:08] <thompa> its the broken version
[05:08] <TiMiDo> oh ok,
[05:08] <TiMiDo> well then get the source and build it from there thompa
[05:08] <thompa> 2.04 is the fix
[05:08] <clyde> problems with partition
[05:09] <TiMiDo> clyde, such as?
[05:09] <thompa> i got the tar.bz2 on my desktop
[05:09] <TiMiDo> ok,
[05:09] <TiMiDo> then do bzip2 -d tar.bz2
[05:09] <thompa> it needs some dependencies
[05:09] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: open a terminal and type lspci
[05:09] <thompa> ok
[05:09] <ubuntu> hello?
[05:09] <clyde> well, I deleted XP & now I can't get the partition to reset
[05:09] <ubuntu> Who's in here?
[05:09] <TiMiDo> everyone ubuntu
[05:09] <TiMiDo> clyde, and why did you do such thing?
[05:09] <ubuntu> Hey, speaking of Partition... tell me what a Swap Partition is?
[05:09] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, pm me plz
[05:10] <Sionide> ubuntu, justfuckinggoogleit.com
[05:10] <clyde> because xp wouldn't behave itself
[05:10] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth i did it tells me about interfaces
[05:10] <epic___> ubuntu,   used for virtual memory
[05:10] <TiMiDo> ok
[05:10] <clyde> missing hal.dll
[05:10] <TiMiDo> so what's the issue clyde
[05:10] <imc_> nalioth thanks - seems to be working. . . .
[05:10] <TiMiDo> i still don't understand
[05:10] <ubuntu> Do I have to have a Swap Partition?
[05:10] <clyde> can I do it throught the install cd?
[05:10] <TiMiDo> do what clyde repair xp?
[05:11] <tritium> ubuntu: do you intend to hibernate your machine?
[05:11] <TiMiDo> ubuntu, yes to installed ubuntu yes you need to
[05:11] <clyde> no repartition
[05:11] <TiMiDo> ok then do it with the cd, windows xp or ubuntu cds,
[05:11] <anto9us> is the ssh server broken on breezy?
[05:11] <TiMiDo> and you will be done,
[05:11] <TiMiDo> anto9us, do apt-get install sshd
[05:11] <bwlang> anto9us: no
[05:11] <TiMiDo> !info sshd
[05:11] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: type "lsusb"
[05:11] <TiMiDo> bla
[05:11] <ubuntu> What is the best way to create a partition for Linux?  I have a crummy Restore disc without the Windows disc.
[05:11] <clyde> ok,
[05:11] <TiMiDo> !info ssh
[05:11] <ubotu> ssh: (Secure shell client and server (transitional package)), section net, is standard. Version: 1:3.9p1-1ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 29 kB, Installed size: 72 kB
[05:12] <TiMiDo> there we go sudo apt-get install ssh
[05:12] <thompa> TiMiDo: BZFlag-<IP_ADDRESS>51005 with the following:
[05:12] <thompa>      no curses!
[05:12] <thompa>      no SDL!
[05:12] <thompa>      bzadmin
[05:12] <thompa>      no bzflag client binary!
[05:12] <Sionide> !info qtpartd
[05:12] <anto9us> TiMiDo: it's installed already, appears to be running but is refusing connections
[05:12] <TiMiDo> anto9us, are you behind a router?
[05:12] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, it is listed!!!
[05:12] <ubuntu> What is the best way to create a partition for Linux?  I have a crummy Restore disc without the Windows disc. [please]
[05:12] <nalioth> thompa: dont paste in here
[05:12] <anto9us> TiMiDo: no, on same network
[05:12] <joee> hey where do I put this line: h2:23:respawn:/etc/init.d/init.cssd run >/dev/null 2>&1 </dev/null
[05:12] <tritium> hi nalioth
[05:12] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: great. there's your answer
[05:12] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[05:12] <nalioth> tritium: good day
[05:12] <clyde> I I am behind a router, could that be the problem?
[05:13] <thompa> what do i need from synaptic in order to compile programs in ubuntu?
[05:13] <TiMiDo> anto9us, then reconfigured it
[05:13] <nalioth> thompa: "build-essential"
[05:13] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i thank u so much!!
[05:13] <Sionide> thompa, build-essential
[05:13] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: np
[05:13] <thompa> thanks
[05:14] <LoKoZ> don't load the program...
[05:14] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: another is "lshw"
[05:14] <clyde> thanks
[05:14] <TiMiDo> anto9us, do this dpkg-reconfigure ssh
[05:16] <tritium> anto9us: the actual server is in the openssh-server package
[05:16] <thompa> do you know what is curses or sdl?
[05:16] <tritium> ssh is just a metapackage that depends on the openssh -client and -sever packages
[05:16] <anto9us> tritium: yes, I have both openssh-client and server installed
[05:16] <TiMiDo> thompa, curses are ncurses
[05:16] <TiMiDo> !info ncurse
[05:16] <TiMiDo> !info ncurses
[05:16] <nalioth> thompa: search using synaptic for those things
[05:16] <tritium> anto9us: okay.  trying to configure the package ssh won't do anything for you
[05:17] <thompa> ok thanks
[05:17] <anto9us> tritium: yes, I've discovered that
[05:17] <TiMiDo> thompa, sudo apt-get install libncurses-dev
[05:17] <anto9us> how do I check if the sshd daemon is started?
[05:17] <tritium> libncurses5-dev (don't forget the 5)
[05:18] <TiMiDo> anto9us, ps x
[05:18] <tritium> anto9us: pgrep sshd
[05:18] <dmlinux> Anyone here use a bluetooth mouse?
[05:18] <nalioth> anto9us: if you've installed it, it should be running
[05:18] <spiral> hmmm, do you know if I need a initrd to use usplash ?
[05:18] <anto9us> yes, it's running
[05:18] <epic___> yes
[05:18] <thompa> TiMiDo: thanks will do
[05:18] <tritium> anto9us: as it should be
[05:18] <TiMiDo> thompa, np
[05:18] <anto9us> still refusing connections though
[05:19] <spiral> epic___: was it for me ?
[05:19] <epic___> spiral, yes
[05:19] <epic___> ssorry
[05:19] <epic___> hehe
[05:19] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[05:19] <spiral> epic___: do you know what I need other than initrd ?
[05:19] <epic___> spiral, Have you read the wiki compile entry?
[05:20] <SOMNIVM> epic___, delete them :}
[05:20] <skyblownet> Hey, how can i run .bin files?
[05:20] <TiMiDo> skyblownet, chmod +x .bin and then ./bin
[05:20] <nalioth> skyblownet: ./file.bin
[05:20] <anto9us> why would sshd refuse a connection? tried from 2 different boxes one breezy, one mandrake
[05:20] <TiMiDo> don't forget the chmod +x first
[05:20] <SOMNIVM> skyblownet, firs make shure you have +x
[05:20] <skyblownet> i do that in root shell?
[05:20] <yancheng> may i noe the difference between gnome and gtk+??
[05:20] <TiMiDo> skyblownet, normal user
[05:20] <spiral> epic___: for the kernel ? I didn't find it
[05:20] <skyblownet> but in shell?
[05:21] <TiMiDo> yeah
[05:21] <TiMiDo> where else?
[05:21] <skyblownet> dunno
[05:21] <tritium> TiMiDo: be nice.  He could check permissions in nautilus
[05:21] <skyblownet> i'm still used to windows :s
[05:21] <SOMNIVM> you could change the permissions in nautilus
[05:21] <TiMiDo> tritium, ok
[05:21] <LoKoZ> I don't do the limewire installation
[05:21] <TiMiDo> !info limewire
[05:21] <Gwildor> nalioth, sorry to bug you, where do devices get mounted to by default in ubuntu?
[05:22] <TiMiDo> http://www.limewire.com LokeDK
[05:22] <LoKoZ> !info limewire
[05:22] <nalioth> yancheng: gtk is the engine that renders gnome's windows
[05:22] <TiMiDo> *LOKoZ
[05:22] <nalioth> Gwildor: /dev/ usually
[05:22] <anto9us> can others here succesfully ssh into breezy?
[05:22] <LoKoZ> yes...
[05:22] <Gwildor> nalioth, what i thought......TY
[05:22] <sportman> hey
[05:22] <nalioth> Gwildor: it depends a lot on different things
[05:22] <TiMiDo> sportman, hello
[05:22] <SOMNIVM> no, he asks about the mount points
[05:22] <SOMNIVM> ;)
[05:22] <sportman> how can i boot no gui
[05:22] <sportman> im using the live cd
[05:22] <yancheng> nalioth: can i say that, gnome is build on the top of gtk+ ??
[05:23] <Gwildor> nalioth, sudo mount -t /dev/sda ..........shin says /dev and /mnt are still empty
[05:23] <epic___> spiral,   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[05:23] <TiMiDo> sportman, you meen no graphical interface?
[05:23] <nalioth> Gwildor: you need more of a mount comand than that, i believe
[05:23] <sportman> yep
[05:23] <nalioth> yancheng: yes you can
[05:23] <TiMiDo> sportman, ok enter the system then do root and do killall gdm
[05:23] <Gwildor> nalioth, ubuntu is silly
[05:23] <DoubleA> Thank you all. And didn't even have to ask anything yet.
[05:23] <TiMiDo> and you're done sportman
[05:23] <spiral> epic___: yes, I got it, but it doesn't learn me anything about usplash
[05:23] <sportman> lol
[05:24] <sportman> i meant like is there something when i get to the boot screen
[05:24] <TiMiDo> spo0nman, f3
[05:24] <epic___> spiral,   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/usplash
[05:24] <TiMiDo> sportman, f3
[05:24] <sportman> ok
[05:24] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[05:24] <sportman> thanks
[05:24] <spiral> epic___: thanks
[05:24] <TiMiDo> sportman, np
[05:24] <TiMiDo> Aragorn_Guardian, hello
[05:24] <epic___> :)
[05:24] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need help with samba....i could not found /etc/init.d/samba
[05:24] <spiral> epic___: doesn't exist...
[05:24] <sportman> bbl
[05:24] <TiMiDo> Aragorn_Guardian, did you installed samba?
[05:24] <Aragorn_Guardian> TiMiDo:  hi!
[05:24] <Aragorn_Guardian> yes
[05:24] <TiMiDo> are you sure?
[05:25] <epic___> spiral,   I am looking at it right now
[05:25] <spiral> epic___: USplash ;-)
[05:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> samba, smbfs, smbclient
[05:25] <TiMiDo> is /etc/init.d/smbfs
[05:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> dpkg -l 8)
[05:25] <Aragorn_Guardian> hum...nice...let me see
[05:25] <epic___> oops s  Blushes hehe
[05:25] <epic___> didn't even lok at the page
[05:25] <epic___> spiral,    what exactly would you like to know about usplash?
[05:25] <TiMiDo> sorry is /etc/init.d/smbd
[05:26] <TiMiDo> A daemon that handles file and printer sharing and provides authentication and authorization for SMB clients.
[05:26] <spiral> epic___: what I need to have in my home-built kernel in order to have usplash in my breezy
[05:26] <epic___> ahh
[05:26] <Aragorn_Guardian> TiMiDo:  no...is not there
[05:26] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8(
[05:26] <epic___> can you wait 5 minutes for me? I am dying for a smoke  (literally  :P  )  unless someoen else helps in the mean time
[05:26] <Aragorn_Guardian> gonna see
[05:26] <TiMiDo> Aragorn_Guardian, go to cd /etc/init.d/ and see if there's something with samba
[05:26] <Aragorn_Guardian> none smb at all
[05:27] <TiMiDo> interesting did you enter the directory
[05:27] <Aragorn_Guardian> yes
[05:27] <_jason> are perl warnings normal in the breezy upgrade?
[05:27] <spiral> epic___: if you were speaking to me, yeah, I can wait 5 minutes if you can help me
[05:27] <TiMiDo> Aragorn_Guardian, do this then smbd  restart as root
[05:27] <tritium> Aragorn_Guardian: what does "apt-cache policy samba" tell you?
[05:27] <Aragorn_Guardian> gonna see...nice command...
[05:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> Installed: (none)
[05:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> ????
[05:28] <epic___> spiral,    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplash     there you go  (I knew I had seen it somewhere)
[05:28] <TiMiDo> Aragorn_Guardian, so you haven't installed it
[05:28] <tritium> Aragorn_Guardian: it's not installed
[05:28] <TiMiDo> !tell Aragorn_Guardian about samba
[05:28] <spiral> epic___: yeah, thanks
[05:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> TiMiDo:  logs dont lie... 8)
[05:28] <TiMiDo> they can sometimes
[05:28] <Aragorn_Guardian> gonna try again...
[05:28] <TiMiDo> and system don't lie either
[05:29] <epic___> spiral,    ou wiil need the appropriate drivers in your kernel
[05:29] <epic___> you
[05:29] <trikar21b> how can i install gimp perl on this, does my mobo and/or processor matter?
[05:29] <spiral> epic___: yeah, just trying to find a list of them
[05:29] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, sudo apt-get install gimp perl
[05:29] <TiMiDo> or apt-cache search perl
[05:29] <LoKoZ> who help me to install limewire to Kubuntu?
[05:29] <nalioth> trikar21b: your hardware matters not. use synaptic
[05:29] <TiMiDo> LoKoZ, Read the INSTALLME or the README
[05:29] <trikar21b> i looked in there, but they dont have gimp perl as an option
[05:29] <trikar21b> i did
[05:29] <nalioth> LoKoZ: you were sent a link
[05:30] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, did you do apt-cache search gimp ?
[05:30] <trikar21b> it says i have to run a perl file
[05:30] <trikar21b> no
[05:30] <trikar21b> what is that
[05:30] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, do this sudo apt-get install libgtk2-perl
[05:30] <TiMiDo> that's the packaged you're looking for
[05:30] <epic___> spiral,   if you are missing the support you need after compiling you can see what it is trying to load with dmesg   it should still boot though  (just no splash)
[05:30] <trikar21b> oh
[05:30] <LoKoZ> I can't
[05:30] <trikar21b> ok
[05:31] <daved> does ubuntu use chkconfig ?
[05:31] <spiral> epic___: yeah, thanks, I'll try to
[05:31] <epic___> ESC is always your friend when grub is loading too
[05:31] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, did it worked (:
[05:31] <trikar21b> no
[05:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice!!!
[05:31] <trikar21b> i have that installed
[05:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> seems works... 8)
[05:31] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, you have it?
[05:31] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks TiMiDo ... 8)
[05:32] <nalioth> LoKoZ: http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[05:32] <TiMiDo> Aragorn_Guardian, np sir any time
[05:32] <daved> does ubuntu use chkconfig ?
[05:32] <daved> how do you make things in /etc/init.d start on boot?
[05:32] <trikar21b> libgtk2-perl?
[05:32] <LoKoZ> it is for Gnome
[05:32] <TiMiDo> yeah trikar21b
[05:32] <LoKoZ> I've KDE
[05:32] <TiMiDo> daved, man update-rc.d
[05:32] <daved> how do you use apt to find out which package contains a given file?
[05:32] <nalioth> LoKoZ: it works the same for both
[05:32] <trikar21b> i have that installed
[05:32] <tritium> daved: sudo invoke-rc.d <service> start | stop | restart
[05:32] <_jason> help please: during upgrade "gnome volumje manager quit unexpectedly"... what should i do restart it or just close or ignor?
[05:33] <TiMiDo> restart GNOme _J
[05:33] <TiMiDo> restart GNOme _jason
[05:33] <daved> tritium: i appreciate the attempt, but you didn't read my question
[05:33] <LoKoZ> I do it but don't start the application
[05:33] <_jason> TiMiDo:  i'm in the middle of breezy upgrade
[05:33] <TiMiDo> then wait until it finishes and restart gnome
[05:33] <_jason> ok
[05:33] <trikar21b> any ideas
[05:33] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, did you restart gimp?
[05:33] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[05:34] <trikar21b> yeah
[05:34] <tritium> daved: dpkg -S <filename> for your second question.  update-rc.d would be the proper solutio for your first
[05:34] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, do apt-cache search gimp
[05:34] <trikar21b> whats apt-cache
[05:34] <TiMiDo> it's a search for packaged
[05:34] <Gul3> hello! is it possible to burn .cdi images in hoary?
[05:34] <TiMiDo> Gul3, yes
[05:34] <trikar21b> im sorta new to ubuntu, ive been using suse for so long
[05:34] <Gul3> how?
[05:34] <wickedpuppy> k3b
[05:35] <TiMiDo> k3b
[05:35] <trikar21b> how would i use that
[05:35] <N17R0> nerolinux
[05:35] <smi|e> !java
[05:35] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[05:35] <epic___> trikar21b,   it is a command/app
[05:35] <Gul3> k3b could not take it...?
[05:35] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, open up a terminal and do apt-cache search gimp or /exec apt-cache search gimp
[05:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell N17R0 about javadeb
[05:35] <Gul3> is ther some missing packages or something?
[05:35] <N17R0> ?
[05:35] <TiMiDo> Gul3, huh?
[05:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell smi|e about javadeb
[05:35] <wickedpuppy> could not take it ??
[05:36] <trikar21b> i just want to install a perl plugin, but i dont know if i have gimp perl installed,
[05:36] <wickedpuppy> what does that mean ??
[05:36] <Gul3> sorry. i tried k3b, but it would not take my cdi image.
[05:36] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, su this sudo apt-get install libgtk2-perl
[05:36] <N17R0> try NeroLINUX
[05:36] <TiMiDo> *do
[05:36] <trikar21b> i did that, it is installed
[05:36] <Gul3> N17RO: apt-get?
[05:36] <N17R0> nope
[05:36] <dreamwave> i'm installing ubuntu on someone's old compaq presario 1920 laptop.  in the install, after selecting the basic interface options (language/keyboard), and just after detecting all the hardware, the screen repeatedly blanks and I never get to the first step of the installation process.  do i need to set any specific boot option at the boot: prompt?
[05:36] <TiMiDo> trikar21b, how do you know it's installed?
[05:36] <N17R0> nero ftp
[05:36] <Gul3> ok, thanks. will do:)
[05:36] <N17R0> np
[05:36] <LoKoZ> I do
[05:36] <LoKoZ> Thanks
[05:36] <trikar21b> cause in the package mangaer, its says its installed
[05:37] <TiMiDo> dreamwave, try f3 before it boots,
[05:37] <TiMiDo> ok,
[05:37] <TiMiDo> then trikar21b do this apt-cache search perl
[05:37] <trikar21b> so like just type in  apt-cache perl?
[05:37] <smi|e> !sources
[05:37] <ubotu> hmm... sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[05:37] <TiMiDo> yeah
[05:37] <dreamwave> TiMiDo, can you suggest any options i should use from that screen?  i tried vga=771 but that had no effect.
[05:37] <smi|e> Yvonne hun you here ?
[05:37] <TiMiDo> dreamwave, hold up
[05:37] <dreamwave> k
[05:38] <LoKoZ> I do it but Limewire don't start why?
[05:38] <Hendric> am back..
[05:38] <trikar21b> im just going to get a book on debian 3 sarge and download that
[05:38] <nalioth> LoKoZ: we need error msgs or more info, and dont paste in here
[05:38] <trikar21b> thanks anyways
[05:38] <N17R0> whats the problem with backports? I get lots of errors when I update synaptic
[05:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell N17R0 about backports
[05:39] <N17R0> is it dead?
[05:39] <Hendric> i cloned my drive.. then i got GRUB ERROR 17 on the cloned drive... i can't grub-install (on rescue) it says no BIOS device.. I installed ubuntu using LVM partition. pls help
[05:39] <bonzai10> hello
[05:39] <TiMiDo> dreamwave, try booting with svga
[05:39] <LoKoZ> but
[05:39] <LoKoZ> Don't
[05:39] <LoKoZ> have a error message
[05:39] <nalioth> LoKoZ: install gtk-gnutella instead of limewire, it does the same thing
[05:39] <epic___> Dreamglider-work,    try noapic
[05:39] <N17R0> ahh ty nalioth
[05:39] <dreamwave> k
[05:39] <TiMiDo> it should worked,
[05:40] <LoKoZ> I've Gtk gnutella
[05:40] <Hendric> nalioth, how can i grub-install on an LVM system???
[05:40] <nalioth> LoKoZ: gtk-gnutell and limewire do the same thing
[05:40] <TiMiDo> yeah giftcurs sure it's nice
[05:40] <nalioth> Hendric: i have no idea.
[05:40] <LoKoZ> but both don't start
[05:40] <smi|e> how can i get more backports?
[05:40] <LoKoZ> it is the problem
[05:40] <TiMiDo> !tell smi|e about backports
[05:40] <nalioth> smi|e: you running breezy or hoary?
[05:41] <mahangu> my update is downloading a new linux image
[05:41] <mahangu> is this normal?
[05:41] <smi|e> hoary nalioth
[05:41] <nalioth> mahangu: quite normal
[05:41] <mahangu> i have a fairly old hoary cd i installed from
[05:41] <TiMiDo> mahangu, yeah
[05:41] <TiMiDo> it should be normal
[05:41] <nalioth> smi|e: read what ubotu sent you
[05:41] <smi|e> ?
[05:41] <nalioth> smi|e: ubotu sent you a private msg
[05:41] <TiMiDo> sure did
[05:41] <smi|e> no
[05:41] <smi|e> he didnt
[05:42] <TiMiDo> smi|e, scrow up
[05:42] <TiMiDo> you will see it,
[05:42] <smi|e> that was about java
[05:42] <TiMiDo> !tell smi|e about backports
[05:42] <nalioth> smi|e: read it again ;)
[05:42] <smi|e> !backportd
[05:42] <ubotu> smi|e: What?
[05:42] <smi|e> !backports
[05:42] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[05:42] <TiMiDo> there u go, sorry about that
[05:42] <TiMiDo> smi|e, you just can msg the bot, and you will be done
[05:43] <TiMiDo> so you don't flood the channel
[05:43] <bonzai10> question when i upgrade 5.04 to 5.10 then all packages are updated to Breezy version, even KDE and everything should work right?(talking about final Breezy ver )
[05:43] <nalioth> bonzai10: yes
[05:43] <TiMiDo> yeah it should bonzai10
[05:43] <smi|e> TiMido i didnt flood the channel,
[05:43] <TiMiDo> you dind't but the bot did
[05:43] <smi|e> no it didnt
[05:43] <TiMiDo> alright,
[05:43] <smi|e> it pasted one line
[05:43] <bonzai10> ok thanx :)
[05:43] <smi|e> now stop exhagurating
[05:44] <nalioth> smi|e: you can msg the bot to your hearts content and ask it anything it knows in the privacy of your own personal chat
[05:44] <LoKoZ> I don't receve error but after the load for some second the program doesn't start why?
[05:44] <elvstone> hi. what's the wiki dialect used by launchpad? i can't find any info on it on the site..
[05:44] <TiMiDo> LoKoZ, do this in the terminal limewire and look at the error
[05:45] <TiMiDo> elvstone, did you google it?
[05:46] <nalioth> elvstone: moin moin, i believe
[05:46] <TiMiDo> elvstone,  https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/
[05:46] <TiMiDo> is that what you're looking for?
[05:46] <meuserj|work> so I tried the .xsession hack that jdub posted today ( http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/blog/2005/10/05/ ) and it seems to crash my windows list applets.. any ideas?
[05:47] <TiMiDo> do you get any errors when the windows crash meuserj|work ?
[05:47] <elvstone> TiMiDo: i googled "launchpad wiki" and "launchpad wiki dialect".. couldn't find anything.
[05:47] <elvstone> nalioth: okay. thx.
[05:47] <TiMiDo> elvstone, is that the right link that i give ya?
[05:47] <dreamwave> TiMiDo, would i use => boot: linux vga=svga   ?
[05:47] <TiMiDo> smoetihng like that Dreamglider-work
[05:47] <TiMiDo> bla dreamwave
[05:48] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, gwilor may help me
[05:48] <meuserj|work> TiMiDo, just the dialog that asks if I want to delete the applet.... thought maybe metacity wasn't starting in time.. but that isn't the case.
[05:48] <TiMiDo> so what's going on,
[05:48] <elvstone> TiMiDo: it at least showed that that page is running moinmoin.. i guess that is what is used for my "Home Page" at launchpad.net too. i'll see if it works. thanks.
[05:48] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, but how can he connect to me? via xterm?
[05:48] <TiMiDo> meuserj|work, ?
[05:49] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, u have tutorials for xterm, or putty logging- net - working?
[05:49] <LoKoZ> don't start from console don't knows it name
[05:49] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, man chat
[05:49] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: what do you want to do?
[05:49] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i want him to connect to my PC via SSH
[05:49] <TiMiDo> ok
[05:49] <thompa> Hi anybody: i got bzflag installed from source. It runs only if i type sudo first. Does this matter? I want to maybe add it to menu
[05:49] <Shin_Gouki> how do i do this?
[05:50] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, he asked if my SSH server is on... is it? were do i look that?
[05:50] <TiMiDo> thompa, do whereis bzflag and create a launcher
[05:50] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, ssh localhost
[05:50] <TiMiDo> and see if it connects
[05:50] <thompa> ok
[05:50] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[05:50] <TiMiDo> np Shin_Gouki
[05:50] <LoKoZ> don't start from console don't knows it name
[05:50] <dreamwave> TiMiDo, yay!  i'm off and running.  thanks.
[05:50] <TiMiDo> dreamwave, np
[05:50] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: type in a terminal "ps aux|grep sshd"
[05:50] <TiMiDo> do what nalioth told ya LoKoZ
[05:51] <Shin_Gouki> TiMiDo,  ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[05:51] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, then ssh is not running
[05:51] <thompa> TiMiDo: it took like 20 minutes to compile
[05:51] <Arkainium> I'm uisng sound juicer to rip cds to ogg.  Is there a way to choose the quality?
[05:51] <TiMiDo> do /etc/init.d/sshd restart;
[05:51] <nalioth> TiMiDo: if he has sshd installed
[05:51] <TiMiDo> thompa, yeah it's a big program isn't it?
[05:51] <TiMiDo> nalioth, yeah
[05:51] <thompa> is that normal.
[05:51] <Hendric> anyone here knows how to repair grub on an LVM drive... ????
[05:51] <TiMiDo> thompa, imagine gnome or kde
[05:51] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, 1000      5326  0.0  0.5   3108   696 pts/1    S+   17:51   0:00 grep sshd
[05:51] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: install "openssh-server"
[05:51] <LoKoZ> I do
[05:51] <LoKoZ> it
[05:51] <TiMiDo> thompa, how big is the program?
[05:52] <thompa> its in /usr/local/bin/bzflag
[05:52] <LoKoZ> but don't start
[05:52] <TiMiDo> thompa, yeah create a launcher
[05:52] <vbgunz> hello everyone, I just installed bsdgames and a logic game in Ubuntu but have no idea where in the world they are in the system... I don't know how to start them and need some ideas
[05:52] <TiMiDo> to /usr/local/bin/bzflag
[05:52] <nalioth> thompa: did you use synaptic or apt-get to install bzflag?
[05:52] <thompa> well im new to gnome, but will try
[05:52] <thompa> source
[05:52] <TiMiDo> vbgunz, are you running kde gnome?
[05:52] <thompa> synaptic version is broken
[05:52] <nalioth> thompa: broken?
[05:52] <TiMiDo> thompa, right click and then create a launcher
[05:53] <lotscha> #gletscher
[05:53] <vbgunz> TiMiDo: i am running gnome at the moment *but* do have KDE (kubuntu) installed
[05:53] <anto9us> I think ssh is broken in breezy
[05:53] <thompa> some graphics bugs, shots go through other players
[05:53] <TiMiDo> ok vbgunz try looking at the Menu where it says games,
[05:53] <thompa> its well documented
[05:53] <TiMiDo> yeah it is thompa
[05:53] <tritium> no, anto9us
[05:53] <vbgunz> TiMiDo: ok
[05:53] <bina> xmms
[05:53] <thompa> they just came out with fixed version, should be in debian repos soon i hope
[05:53] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, done, do i need expicit to start it?
[05:54] <TiMiDo> damn mouse
[05:54] <anto9us> tritium: you can ssh into a breezy box?
[05:54] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: once you install openssh-server, it will start on it's own
[05:54] <vbgunz> TiMiDo: the only games in there are the ones that shipped... I don't see the bsd games or the logic game
[05:54] <tritium> anto9us: sure
[05:54] <TiMiDo> did u restart the gnome vbgunz ?
[05:55] <vbgunz> yes, i restarted Ubuntu twice as i needed to get into Windows to do some things
[05:55] <TiMiDo> interesting
[05:55] <thompa> TiMiDo: 138MB
[05:55] <thompa> its big
[05:55] <TiMiDo> vbgunz, go to debian and check there
[05:55] <TiMiDo> on the gnome menu
[05:55] <SOMNIVM> do you know where I could get small "Powered by Ubuntu" banners? I didn't find the ones uploaded in the wiki...
[05:55] <vbgunz> ok I don't have the debian menu folder available so if I edit them I see no items in the node either
[05:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> bzflag is nice... 8)
[05:55] <Hendric> anyone here knows how to repair grub on an LVM drive... ????
[05:56] <TiMiDo> vbgunz, interesting
[05:56] <thompa> get 2.04 its nicer
[05:56] <amimusa> hi people, i can't hear my CDAs in kubuntu, the rest of sound i can listen to, please any suggestion ?
[05:56] <Casanova> hello.. i am having a problem with the sound system... i have to do "sudo chmod 777 /dev/dsp" to enable sound on every boot.... is there some way i can automate this? also this is not a prob on any other distro
[05:56] <TiMiDo> amimusa, try opening with totem
[05:56] <epic___> BSDgames has a launcher by default?
[05:56] <vbgunz> yeah, Debian has no check mark next to it and nothing beneath it... This is the first time something like this (installation) doesn't show up but in Synaptic it shows as installed
[05:57] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[05:57] <TiMiDo> !tell Casanova about sound
[05:57] <SOMNIVM> amimusa, check if your CD drive is connected properly to the sound card :}
[05:57] <vbgunz> epic___: I believe bsdgames might not have a launcher by default but trying to launch bsdgames doesn't work either
[05:57] <Hendric> anyone here knows how to repair grub on an LVM drive... ???? pls pls pls
[05:57] <tritium> Casanova: is that to enable any sound at all, or sounds for things that don't use esd?
[05:57] <amimusa> i did ir SOMNIVM
[05:57] <_jason> epic___:  if you ever find out please make a wiki because I have been trying to figure that out for a while
[05:57] <tritium> Hendric: please quit repeating.
[05:57] <TiMiDo> Hendric, stop flooding
[05:58] <Casanova> tritium, if i run mplayer without that command it says it cant open device /dev/dsp
[05:58] <amimusa> TiMiDo, i have kde
[05:58] <amimusa> i don't think to install totem will solve the problem
[05:58] <tritium> Casanova: is that because esd is running?  Do system sounds work?
[05:58] <amimusa> i can hear sound from movies
[05:58] <amimusa> and from system
[05:58] <thompa> bzflag graphics are improved.
[05:58] <TiMiDo> Hendric, do you want to repair the lvm? or reinstalled it?
[05:58] <scanwinder> epic___: is there a program that automatically does it? perhaps theres some pointers in the hotplug scripts
[05:58] <epic___> _jason,    it only happens in breezy afaik
[05:59] <Casanova> tritium, no it works only as root
[05:59] <thompa> TiMIDo: thanks
[05:59] <epic___> scanwinder, I have no idea, hence me asking in here
[05:59] <woebegone> I am sorry i dont think i should asking this here is the way to channel on pthreads
[05:59] <tritium> Casanova: what does?
[05:59] <TiMiDo> thompa, np
[05:59] <scanwinder> epic___: did it in hoary for me aswell
[05:59] <thompa> 140MB
[05:59] <epic___> scanwinder, weird, my mate has horay and it does not do it
[05:59] <Casanova> tritium, all sounds work perfectly when i am logged as root... but not as ordinary user
[05:59] <TiMiDo> Hendric, http://linux.org.mt/article/partnames
[05:59] <bonzai10> who has friend who makes yakuake??
[05:59] <Determinist> what would be the fastest way to install nvidia drivers for a geforce 6600gt on breezy?
[06:00] <thompa> graphics are nice , gritty quake like with nvidia
[06:00] <skyblownet> !tell skyblownet mp3
[06:00] <scanwinder> epic___: actually, it might not, when i had hoary, that was kubuntu
[06:00] <skyblownet> how can i install REALplayer?
[06:00] <TiMiDo> !info realplayer
[06:00] <ubotu> realplayer: (Real Player (installer)), section multiverse/net, is optional. Version: 8.0.11 (hoary), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[06:00] <smi|e> !java
[06:00] <scanwinder> epic___: tho i did have normal hoary before that...cant remember....i guess it isnt important tho
[06:00] <ubotu> [java]  to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[06:00] <thompa> My ubuntu brezzy is all setup and working including wireless. be seeing you!
[06:00] <TiMiDo> skyblownet, sudo apt-get install realplayer
[06:01] <epic___> scanwinder,   it is to me  :P
[06:01] <Mars__^> HI Is there anybody here who is active on msn, and can give me id, cause i need to find out is there everything auright with my msn transporent to PSI.
[06:01] <Casanova> tritium, any idea?
[06:01] <TiMiDo> lol tritium (:
[06:01] <tritium> Casanova: not without more info
[06:01] <epic___> Determinist, synaptic
[06:01] <anto9us> my ssh problem was actually a dns problem, sorted now
[06:01] <tritium> s/things/thinks
[06:01] <thompa> TiMiDo: are you sure about that apt-get install realplayer
[06:01] <Casanova> tritium, wat kinda info?
[06:01] <tritium> anto9us: ;)
[06:01] <TiMiDo> thompa, /msg ubotu info realplayer
[06:02] <Determinist> epic___, what package?
[06:02] <thompa> ive done that
[06:02] <skyblownet> E: Package realplayer has no installation candidate
[06:02] <epic___> thompa,   that works, you also need to get the RP rpm from realplayer.com
[06:02] <scanwinder> epic___: where are the hotplug scripts anyway...im a noob.....i just know that they are somewhere
[06:02] <TiMiDo> realplayer - Real Player (installer)
[06:02] <TiMiDo> on breezy
[06:02] <thompa> and also you need to change the version numbers
[06:02] <Hendric> TiMiDo, nothing about LVM
[06:02] <anto9us> thanks for the advice guys
[06:02] <thompa> and a couple of other things
[06:02] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i create a user on shell (linux in GENERAL)
[06:02] <scanwinder> realplayer *shudder*
[06:02] <thompa> just download from real.com and install
[06:02] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, man adduser
[06:02] <thompa> its less steps
[06:02] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[06:02] <TiMiDo> np
[06:03] <tritium> thompa: but not under package management if you do that
[06:03] <skyblownet> but i've got a bin from there
[06:03] <TiMiDo> skyblownet, did you do chmod +x realplayer.bin ?
[06:03] <eniz> can't find linux drivers for my lan. and asrock did not have. help someone?
[06:03] <skyblownet> yeah, but i got an error running
[06:03] <thompa> tritium: do you mean under synaptic?
[06:03] <skyblownet> wait let me try it again
[06:03] <TiMiDo> what error?
[06:03] <tritium> thompa: more than just synaptic
[06:04] <skyblownet> bash: ELF
[06:04] <blekos> hello everybody
[06:04] <thompa> it says realplayer version 8.011
[06:04] <TiMiDo> skyblownet, remove it and reinstall it again
[06:04] <TiMiDo> blekos, hello
[06:04] <blekos> how is this program called that removes uneccessary files?
[06:04] <blekos> hi Timi
[06:05] <Pedricko> Hey Hey
[06:05] <epic___> scanwinder,      just 'man hotplug'   lots of info  :)
[06:05] <blekos> it is smg like de...ter
[06:05] <nalioth> blekos: debfoster or deborphan
[06:05] <TiMiDo> what do you meen? blekos
[06:05] <blekos> ???
[06:05] <thompa> the latest is version 10-1
[06:05] <blekos> yes debfoster
[06:05] <blekos> which is better?
[06:05] <thompa> if you do this you have to trick the installer
[06:05] <thompa> which is hit or miss
[06:06] <thompa> if you have to download it anyway what the point
[06:06] <glauc> Hey guys, I setup hardware raid with my onboard controller, what will the devices show up as under linux?
[06:06] <epic___> iy you're using synaptic to install be aware it has the wrong file name for the rpm, you need to change the 2 to a 1
[06:06] <blekos> is deborphan safe?
[06:06] <TiMiDo> glauc, do lspci
[06:06] <epic___> (realplayer)
[06:06] <Pedricko> when does Breezy Launch
[06:06] <tritium> yes, blekos
[06:06] <Mars__^> someone with msn ?
[06:06] <tritium> Pedricko: the 13th
[06:06] <Pedricko> Wow thanks
[06:06] <pmjdebruijn> lo all
[06:06] <Pedricko> Breezy launches on my birthday
[06:07] <glauc> timido: i'm not in front of the machine, would lspci tell me what devices they are mapped too? or are you just looking for the controller chipset?
[06:07] <pmjdebruijn> is it possible to do a ubuntu install by use of floppies (just like debian)?
[06:07] <blekos> after so many upgrades i think i need it...
[06:07] <thompa> just download and install it from http://www.real.com/
[06:07] <TiMiDo> just the controller chipset glauc
[06:07] <glauc> timido: its an nForce 3
[06:08] <TiMiDo> glauc, ok wiat a sec
[06:08] <TiMiDo> *wait
[06:08] <nalioth> blekos: it asks YOU what to do, so are YOU safe?
[06:08] <Se7h> damn im having some trouble here removing some eclipse packages
[06:08] <blekos> i get your point nalioth
[06:08] <Zubziro> does anyone know some distro live cd with loop-aes ?? (don't tell me knoppix couse it don't have multi key v3 mode)
[06:09] <TiMiDo> glauc, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/366910
[06:09] <con> :)
[06:09] <blekos> hmm
[06:09] <glauc> timido: thanks, i'll take a look
[06:09] <TiMiDo> np
[06:09] <Trewas> pfft, my bugreport of thinkpad waking no more from suspend-to-ram with latest breezy kernels was marked unconfirmed... I guess that kind of bug is hard to confirm if the developer does not have similar enough laptop, but hopefully it will magically work again with the final breezy
[06:09] <blekos> i'll have 2 think about it
[06:09] <mahangu> Zubziro, im sorta spamming b/c im with the team, but you may wanna check www.taprobane.org
[06:09] <Pedricko> is there a GOOD p2p for Linux? Im thinking like Ares for windows?
[06:09] <TiMiDo> Pedricko, gtk-gnutella
[06:09] <TiMiDo> giftcurs, limewire etc etc
[06:09] <mahangu> Pedricko, gtk-gnutella
[06:09] <Pedricko> TiMiDo can I apt-get it?
[06:09] <mahangu> bah, talk about lag :)
[06:09] <deFrysk> Pedricko, nicotine
[06:10] <Pedricko> I have limewire I hate it
[06:10] <mahangu> Pedricko, yes
[06:10] <TiMiDo> Pedricko, try apt-cache search and see
[06:10] <skyblownet> Can you config your windows-key to do something in linux?
[06:10] <Pedricko> *opens terminal*
[06:10] <TiMiDo> glauc, try also http://www.nforcershq.com/forum/nforce-linux-vf29.html
[06:10] <TiMiDo> skyblownet, yeah
[06:11] <skyblownet> howto?
[06:11] <Hendric> the rescue mode isn't helpful with LVM drives..
[06:11] <elvstone> hello again. is there any rough schedule for when 5.10 is to be released? i'm starting up a little bookshop and i just ordered some free CDs to keep at the cashier. kind of interested when they'll be sent.
[06:11] <Zubziro> mahagnu, thx
[06:12] <TiMiDo> skyblownet, check the gnome menus it should be there can't remember now, though
[06:12] <yancheng> any program in ubuntu tat can convert cd audio to mp3?
[06:12] <TiMiDo> yancheng, lame
[06:12] <funkyHat> yancheng, abcde
[06:12] <elvstone> my bookshop will open doors on 15:th of November, and it might only stay open for two months. unless it plays out really well. will 5.10 be out before that?
[06:12] <mahangu> Zubziro, np
[06:12] <NiLz> hi
[06:12] <funkyHat> (it uses lame, it's easier :)
[06:12] <TiMiDo> hi NiLz
[06:12] <NiLz> is there some mem optimization thingy in linux, for instance can I clean up unused ram every now and then
[06:12] <TiMiDo> yeah lame is easy
[06:13] <mahangu> yancheng, apt-cache search cd ripper
[06:13] <NiLz> I've noticed that my machine starts slowing down after some time of usage
[06:13] <NiLz> for instance when using firefox
[06:13] <NiLz> and constantly opening new tabs (25 tabs)
[06:13] <TiMiDo> you can run programs with whatever ram you want on terminals
[06:13] <NiLz> i have 1,3ghz 512 ram
[06:13] <NiLz> TiMiDo: oh, how can I do that?
[06:13] <yancheng> how about grip?
[06:13] <TiMiDo> what porgram do you want to run?
[06:14] <Hendric> where can i find grub.conf????
[06:14] <NiLz> firefox for instace
[06:14] <deFrysk> NiLz, what do you expect with 25 tabs ? increased speed ?
[06:14] <NiLz> deFrysk: nothing, it's just seems faster on winxp
[06:14] <NiLz> deFrysk: with 25 tabs it starts lagging here, that's why I wonder is there any way to optimize
[06:14] <TiMiDo> NiLz, firefox -width 3838
[06:14] <tritium> yancheng: there's also soundjuicer, unless you want a cli app
[06:14] <TiMiDo> or whatever u want to
[06:14] <Knelix2> Hello.
[06:14] <TiMiDo> -width value
[06:14] <TiMiDo>               Set width of startup window to value pixels.
[06:15] <Shin_Gouki> TiMiDo, how do i stop my SSH server? and will it start automaticaly next boot up?
[06:15] <Knelix2> Guys... were do I find WINE? I was looking through Synaptic... haven't found it...
[06:15] <NiLz> TiMiDo: err, pixels?
[06:15] <tritium> Shin_Gouki: sudo invoke-rc.d sshd stop
[06:15] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, yeah it will /etc/init.d/ssh stop;
[06:15] <zygis> Shin_Gouki, /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[06:15] <TiMiDo> *sshd
[06:15] <spola> Knelix2, it's in there, have you checked (multi|uni)verse?
[06:15] <zygis> Shin_Gouki, and yes, it will start on next reboot
[06:15] <Shin_Gouki> how do i avoid this? config?
[06:15] <TiMiDo> NiLz, go to . ${HOME}/.mozilla/firefox
[06:15] <mortal5> guys, I need help fixing ubuntu's support for an audigy 1 ES
[06:15] <TiMiDo> and look at the configuration there NiLz
[06:15] <windex> tritium, you are the only person i have ever known to suggest using invoke-rc.d. congratulations. :P
[06:16] <tritium> Shin_Gouki: you want to stop it personally
[06:16] <tritium> windex: :)
[06:16] <mortal5> I've read the documentation, it just appears this card isn't supported well in this distrobution
[06:16] <zAo^> Anyone who has a DEB for Klibido <IP_ADDRESS> for Breezy??
[06:16] <NiLz> TiMiDo: ok, what am I looking for?
[06:16] <tritium> Shin_Gouki: I mean to say permanently...
[06:16] <mortal5> which is amazing because emu10k1 supports it beutifully elsewhere
[06:16] <TiMiDo> about something with RAM,
[06:16] <NiLz> TiMiDo: a config file?
[06:17] <TiMiDo> NiLz, something that starts with ram yeah
[06:17] <TiMiDo> u can always control it with the configuration
[06:17] <mortal5> TiMiDo, wha?
[06:17] <Knelix2> spola: Ah had forgotten to add repositories after my re-install. Hehe. Thanks.
[06:17] <TiMiDo> mortal5, not you
[06:17] <yancheng> tritium: cna sound juicer extract the audio to mp3??
[06:18] <TiMiDo> yancheng, try lame dude
[06:18] <tritium> yancheng: yes
[06:18] <nalioth> zAo^: http://orniere-du-globe.net
[06:18] <TiMiDo> brb people
[06:18] <Shin_Gouki> hi! how to add root rights to an existing user?
[06:18] <tritium> Shin_Gouki: see an example here for stopping a service at boot the debian/ubuntu way: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[06:18] <TiMiDo> Shin_Gouki, nano /etc/passwd
[06:18] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: system > admin > users and groups
[06:18] <mortal5> of course not me, I can't seem to get a straight answer as to why ubuntu doesn't support my sound card
[06:18] <Knelix2> Anyone try playing ragnarok under WINE?
[06:19] <tritium> mortal5: emu10k1 is supported.  What's the problem?
[06:19] <aspire> mortal: sound card?
[06:19] <nalioth> TiMiDo: ubuntu does things in a little different way from other *nixes
[06:19] <__filip_> when wil the stable breezy came?
[06:19] <aspire> oct 13th
[06:19] <tritium> __filip_: it's in the topic ;)
[06:19] <spola> i cant wait !
[06:19] <__filip_> i am counting :)
[06:20] <aspire> no one ever reads the topic  :)
[06:20] <zAo^> nalioth, that does not work on Breezy :(
[06:20] <__filip_> ohh, i see.
[06:20] <tritium> they should
[06:20] <tritium> zAo^: what doesn't?
[06:20] <aspire> yes, they _should_
[06:20] <mortal5> tritium, it's a Audigy 1 ES sound card
[06:20] <__filip_> sorry
[06:20] <nalioth> zAo^: are you sure? i thought i saw breezy repos there
[06:20] <mortal5> it says it's supported, but it doesn't work
[06:20] <tritium> __filip_: don't be sorry :)
[06:20] <mortal5> would you like to see my "aplay -l"?
[06:21] <zAo^> nalioth, sorry then, lemme take a closer look :$ (noticed the repo's, thats why)
[06:21] <nalioth> zAo^: i've lost my kubuntu repos dammit
[06:21] <__filip_> :=)
[06:21] <nalioth> zonic: hang on
[06:21] <tritium> !tell mortal5 about sound
[06:21] <mortal5> tritium, where is that ubuntu pastebin?
[06:21] <mortal5> tritium, I've read that, many times
[06:21] <tritium> mortal5: see the topic
[06:22] <TiMiDo> that was good, smoking a cig
[06:23] <Knelix2> Does WINE support Directx?
[06:23] <TiMiDo> nope Knelix2 cedega does,
[06:23] <smi|e> when i try too install java i get this
[06:23] <mortal5> Here is my thing about the sound
[06:23] <smi|e> Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:23] <smi|e> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:23] <smi|e> is only available from another source
[06:23] <smi|e> enyc: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[06:23] <smi|e> steffan@ubuntu:~$
[06:23] <zAo^> Knelix2, nope
[06:23] <TiMiDo> smi|e, don't pasted here plz
[06:23] <mortal5> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2798
[06:23] <zAo^> nalioth, no Breezy repo on that URL, right?
[06:23] <tritium> smi|e: no pasting please
[06:24] <smi|e> make me
[06:24] <TiMiDo> lol
[06:24] <rob^^^> heya all. I've got a LiveCD where usplash works fine but X is not a happy camper. Any suggestion on boot paramaters?
[06:24] <gigaclon> kick him
[06:24] <nalioth> zAo^: try this one http://dinton.no-ip.org/
[06:25] <mortal5> lol, guess he didn't see you become op
[06:25] <mortal5> tritium, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2798
[06:25] <yccheok_> i wish to install glade 2, hence i choose package glade-gnome-2, however, i get the following error
[06:25] <yccheok_> glade-gnome-2:
[06:25] <yccheok_>  Depends: libgda2-1 but it is not going to be installed
[06:25] <yccheok_>  Depends: libgnomedb2-3 but it is not going to be installed
[06:26] <tritium> yccheok_: stop that
[06:26] <zAo^> nalioth, tried that one too :) Thnx. They have a old version of Klibido
[06:26] <yccheok_> may i noe how i can resolve this problem?
[06:26] <epic___> Does anyone know a way of making mount points disappear from the desktop (or if it is possible to do so)?
[06:27] <mortal5> my aplay -l output is here, I'm trying to debug my sound:  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2798
[06:27] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i enable timespat in xchat?
[06:27] <rob^^^> setting DefaultDepth to 16 makes it happy
[06:27] <rob^^^> is there a way to force a default X color depth?
[06:27] <Shin_Gouki> got it thx anyway :)
[06:27] <mahangu> Shin_Gouki, time stamps?
[06:27] <mahangu> ok
[06:29] <_jason> so I just updated to breezy and my icons seem to be missing (ie trash, desktop, file icons in nautilus)... any ideas?
[06:29] <humbolt> how can I change the resolution of the boot splash screen thing?
[06:29] <mortal5> tritium, did you get to look at my output?
[06:29] <Shin_Gouki> mahangu , im finished with that :) thx anyway
[06:30] <mahangu> _jason, i havent upped yet, but im told breezy does ome big changes to nautilus
[06:30] <tritium> mortal5: no, sorry...I'm going to have to get going.  Got a situation here...
[06:30] <_jason> mahangu:  no they are missing, everything looks like a piece of paper and my trash and desktop look like IE missing picture X's D:
[06:31] <mahangu> _jason, theme?
[06:31] <_jason> mahangu:  good point, let me try
[06:31] <dreamwave> TiMiDo, this isn't working.  i'm not sure that there is a display problem.  as a test, i tried running a different live CD on the machine and had no problems.  is there a way to stop the install from changing a framebuffer?  as the screen cycles through blanking, i am seeing the word 'Killed' briefly on the screen.
[06:31] <_jason> mahangu:  thansk that was it!
[06:31] <Kaparen> I got a question: Two days ago I manually setup the NVIDIA drivers in hoary and everything was working fine, rebooted twice to check if hoary still was ok and there were no problems. yesterday I didnt login, only use XP. Today I start up Ubuntu and the screen only blink three times leaving me with a blank screen. I rolled back to my xorg.conf.back up and now everythign is working allright but how could this had happen
[06:31] <Kaparen> ed?
[06:32] <mahangu> _jason, live and learn eh :) enjoy breezy
[06:32] <mahangu> let me know how it goes
[06:32] <mahangu> im thinking of upgrading but have heard horror stories frm thinkpad users
[06:32] <mortal5> anyone else experienced with ubuntu feel like helping me?
[06:33] <mahangu> mortal5, just ask mate
[06:33] <nalioth> mortal5: ask a question, please,
[06:33] <mortal5> my audigy es sound card isn't working
[06:33] <mortal5> let me get the aplay output for ya
[06:34] <humbolt> how can I change the resolution of the console?
[06:34] <mortal5> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2798
[06:35] <mortal5> now emu10k1 is loaded, so my sound should be working
[06:35] <mortal5> but it's not
[06:35] <spiral> hi
[06:35] <yccheok_> may i noe the different between oss and mp3 format?
[06:36] <mortal5> nalioth, mahangu , either of you come across this?
[06:37] <mahangu> mortal5, nope, can't say i have, but wait for nalioth to respond
[06:37] <Knelix2> TiMiDo, zAo^: Cedega?
[06:37] <knubbe-> new updates... i upgraded. the wlan is still disabled somehow though :(-
[06:37] <mahangu> ok peeps, off to bed i go
[06:38] <mahangu> apt is updating as we speak
[06:38] <mahangu> :)
[06:38] <mahangu> night
[06:38] <nalioth> mortal5: i'm sorry. i have no experience with sound issues
[06:39] <dreamwave> hmm.  looks like /usr/share/debconf/frontend is crashing.  or /sbin/debian-installer is crashing.
[06:39] <zAo^> Knelix2, yes, Cedega does
[06:39] <mortal5> *sigh that's ok
[06:40] <mortal5> one more thing before I head out, has anyone here noticed ubuntu actually "turning there system on" in the middle of the night?
[06:40] <nalioth> zAo^: did you get that last URL i sent?
[06:40] <mortal5> I would love to know how it does this, and how I can make it stop lol
[06:41] <zAo^> nalioth, http://dinton.no-ip.org/ ?
[06:41] <mortal5> I don't like hearing drums at 4 am
[06:41] <mshade> Does anyone know what gam_server does?
[06:41] <mshade> in /usr/lib/gamin ?
[06:41] <knubbe-> anyone else whove experienced that when you are about to change your settings under "network settings" everything is grey'ed out, and it says you need administrator access. and when you press the button and fill in your password its still grey'ed out.
[06:41] <mortal5> actually i don't hear anything, but it's spooky
[06:41] <zAo^> nalioth, tried that one too :) Thnx. But they have an old version of Klibido
[06:42] <nalioth> mshade: it keeps track of your files. (nautilus and konqueror use it)
[06:42] <mshade> it appears to have a memory leak:)
[06:42] <nalioth> zAo^: use the source repos on that page and build it under breezy
[06:42] <mshade> thanks nalioth
[06:42] <zAo^> nalioth, donno how to build a deb :$
[06:42] <dooglus> wow.  where did those 3 hours disappear to???
[06:43] <nalioth> zAo^: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[06:43] <mahangu-sleep> dooglus, heh
[06:43] <mahangu-sleep> happens to me all the time :)
[06:43] <dooglus> wesnoth is quite absorbing, isn't it?
[06:43] <mahangu-sleep> dooglus, oh reminds me, i have to apt-get that
[06:43] <mahangu-sleep> can i do it while system updates though? prolly not eh?
[06:43] <mahangu-sleep> well off to bed
[06:43] <dooglus> mahangu-sleep: you can get the 1.0 .debs from debian
[06:44] <mahangu-sleep> dooglus, id rather apt-get :)
[06:44] <dooglus> and no, you can't - only one apt-get / aptitude / debfoster / dpkg / whatever at a time
[06:44] <mahangu-sleep> nighto anyway, up in 7 hours or so
[06:44] <dooglus> ah  - synaptic - that's what I was forgetting.
[06:45] <dreamwave> is there a way to not have the install process switch to a framebuffer?
[06:45] <mshade> anyone else experiencing very high memory usage from gam_server ?
[06:45] <nalioth> mshade: lots of folks. close nautilus or konqeror and it should stop
[06:45] <mshade> nalioth: i didn't have either open -- had to kill gam_server directly
[06:46] <nalioth> mshade: yes, that happens, too
[06:46] <mshade> that's comforting...
[06:47] <humbolt> if I append video=vesafb:1280x800-16@60 to my kernel options, does this conflict (decrease performance) with using the proprietary nvidia drivers for xorg?
[06:51] <x_or> I've installed proftpd, and certain users can login, but certain users cannot.  Do I need to users to a certain group that I want to permit FTP access?  Anyone know?
[06:51] <LeeColleton> my Breezy system won't play multiple soundfiles.  polypaudio has some trouble with module-alsa-sink.c opening the PCM device
[06:51] <_jason> lol my totem plays things in black and white now, anyone have this problem after breezy?
[06:52] <dooglus> i don't
[06:52] <dooglus> totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[06:52] <stefan_> can I get my ISP's DNS automaticly in some way?
[06:53] <_jason> dooglus: both, I upgraded to totem-xine when I say it in gstreamer... it uses the codec MPEG (libmpeg2) do you know if there is a newer one?
[06:53] <dooglus> no, i don't
[06:53] <dooglus> _jason: did you try mplayer?  is that the same?  could it be the saturation is turned down on the video overlay?
[06:54] <Da_SWAT> quick question. I have a process (emelfm2) which doesn't want to be killed. Not even with "sudo kill -9 <pid>". Anything else I can try?
[06:54] <_jason> mplayer is the same
[06:54] <lucaz> How can I check wich audio codec is used in some file?
[06:54] <_jason> dooglus: how can i change the saturation?
[06:54] <mshade> Da_SWAT: try sudo kill -15 <pid>
[06:54] <TokenBad> you can't install mplayer into kubuntu?
[06:55] <dooglus> _jason: I have a crappy sis card,and I use 'sisctrl' to adjust the levels.  I guess it's different for different cards
[06:55] <nalioth> TokenBad: you can
[06:55] <Da_SWAT> mshade, nope, still nothing
[06:55] <nitroflea> Has anyone actually got their Audigy LS stable in breezy?
[06:55] <vegiVamp> TokenBad: add universe and multiverse to your package list, look on the wiki for more info
[06:55] <_jason> dooglus:  oh ok
[06:55] <TokenBad> cause default program just crashed
[06:56] <mshade> Da_SWAT: xkill?
[06:56] <mshade> Da_SWAT: it's still running graphically?
[06:56] <Da_SWAT> mshade, yes it's still visible on xorg and with ps -x
[06:56] <mshade> Da_SWAT: run xkill from a terminal and click on its window
[06:57] <blekos> is there an equivelant of dvdshring in linux?
[06:57] <Da_SWAT> mshade, xkilll worked :)
[06:57] <mshade> blekos: dvdrip, drip, acidrip
[06:57] <Da_SWAT> mshade, thank you very much :)
[06:57] <mshade> Da_SWAT: good
[06:57] <mshade> Da_SWAT: no worries
[06:57] <blekos> which would you recommend?
[06:58] <lucaz> How can I check wich audio codec is used in some file that its not working on mplayer and xine?
[06:58] <nalioth> lucaz: open a terminal and type "file filename.foo"
[06:58] <mshade> blekos: acidrip is probably the friendliest, but dvdrip seems to be the most featureful
[06:58] <blekos> i c
[06:58] <_jason> ok freaky... now its in color... I didn't do anything
[06:59] <_jason> maybe they've got some ai in this version of ubuntu
[06:59] <daved> can somsone send me the default ubuntu kernel 2.6.12 config ?
[06:59] <daved> i dont have it since i'm doing a debootstrap install
[06:59] <lucaz> nalioth, Desktop/100_0809.MOV: Apple QuickTime movie (modified), I thought that the mplayer's codec supported quicktime..
[06:59] <blekos> here comes another question...
[07:00] <nalioth> lucaz: do you have libquicktime installed?
[07:00] <blekos> how can I create a "folder" in the apllications menu
[07:00] <daved> can somsone send me the default ubuntu kernel 2.6.12 config ?
[07:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell blekos about smeg
[07:00] <blekos> or better a subcategory appl->office->sub cat
[07:01] <blekos> thnx
[07:01] <daved> it will be in /boot called config-*stuff*.gz
[07:01] <daved> please send me the latest one for a 2.6.12 kernel
[07:01] <stefan_> epic___ I change the DNS settings and it works fine (so long). thanks for your help
[07:02] <daved> can somsone send me the default ubuntu kernel 2.6.12 config ?
[07:02] <_jason> is "deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main universe multiverse restricted" ok in breezy?
[07:02] <gearry> daved: I am looking for the same thing for 2.6.10
[07:02] <lucaz> nalioth, if doesn't come with the essential mplayer package, I dont have it..
[07:03] <nalioth> _jason: mirrormax should no longer be used
[07:03] <nalioth> _jason: and breezy isnt finished yet to have backports
[07:03] <mshade> daved: coming your way
[07:03] <nalioth> lucaz: install "libquicktime
[07:03] <daved> mshade: thanks
[07:04] <gearry> mshade: where can I find the same thing for 2.6.10?
[07:04] <lucaz> nalioth, :)
[07:04] <_jason> nalioth:  ok so no extras yet then  thanks
[07:04] <daved> mshade: not sending.. you behind a nat?
[07:05] <mshade> gearry: not sure, i had it on my system
[07:05] <mshade> daved: got it?
[07:06] <JairunCaloth> can someone help me get this windoze drive mounted?
[07:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell JairunCaloth about windowsdrives
[07:07] <mshade> daved: did you get that link?
[07:07] <daved> yeah
[07:07] <daved> thanks
[07:07] <wordydude> greetings all
[07:07] <daved> does anyone know of a .deb for the 2.6.12 kernel with xen0/xenU support?
[07:08] <mshade> daved: download the config now, i'm not leaving it on the server
[07:09] <wordydude> I installed ubuntu and I am at the login screen.  I did not set-up a user account/password.  Whats are the default settings?
[07:09] <daved> mshade, done
[07:09] <_Simon[work] > afternoon all. I have an audio app that uses OSS, I'm on breezy, I installed alsa-oss, but its still not working, it uses PortAudio, it says "PortAudio: Read Interrupted!", is there anything I need to do to enable alsa-oss besides install the package? thanks in advance!
[07:10] <Blissex> wordydude: now that's an interesting question...
[07:10] <Blissex> wordydude: because Ubuntu by default does not allow 'root' logins :-).
[07:10] <crimsun> _Simon[work] : why are you using alsa-oss?
[07:10] <avalost> i'm surprised it allows you to continue without adding a user
[07:11] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: because the app I'm trying to use, uses OSS
[07:11] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: and it doesn't work, so I thought alsa-oss is what I required, for the OSS emulation
[07:11] <crimsun> _Simon[work] : if you know the app requires direct oss, just stop esd and use your app
[07:11] <crimsun> no, alsa-oss is _only_ required if you want to _wrap_ your oss application to use alsa
[07:11] <wordydude> Blissed: Interesting point.  Guess, I am re-installing, cause I don't know of another way to get around this.
[07:12] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: hmm, so when I start distributing my application, I need to tell all users of ubuntu to stop esd so my app can run?
[07:12] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: oh I see
[07:12] <crimsun> _Simon[work] : no, they don't need to do anything on _Breezy_. On Breezy esd releases the device after an idle period.
[07:12] <crimsun> They can just use that application.
[07:13] <avalost> I just uploaded a re-write of ubuntu-geek's automated setup script for breezy: anyone wanna test it out for me?: http://gawth.org/?id=lin
[07:13] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: hmm, but I'm not using the audio device at the moment in any player or anything, and the app still won't work
[07:13] <avalost> you need to be using breezy for it
[07:13] <crimsun> _Simon[work] : but are you using Hoary or Breezy?
[07:13] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: breezy I believe, is there a quick way to double check?
[07:13] <crimsun> lsb_release -a|grep ^Codename
[07:14] <JairunCaloth> ah ha! It was hdb2 not hdb
[07:14] <_Simon[work] > breezy
[07:15] <_Simon[work] > how do I stop esd just to make sure if that allows it to work
[07:15] <crov> Hi all,when ever i try to install some packages i get E: Couldn't find package java-package
[07:15] <_Simon[work] > does it matter if I'm in KDE or gnome?
[07:16] <crimsun> _Simon[work] : there's an "easy but not so good" way, and there's a "good" way
[07:16] <_Simon[work] > in KDE, under sound I have:
[07:16] <crimsun> _Simon[work] : if you're in KDE, you're using arts not esd
[07:16] <_Simon[work] > enable sound system
[07:16] <_Simon[work] > hmm ok
[07:17] <_Simon[work] > if I log out of kde, and log into gnome, it'll run esd?
[07:17] <crimsun> _Simon[work] : the instructions are different for Kubuntu than to Ubuntu
[07:17] <crimsun> yes
[07:17] <_Simon[work] > ok let me log into gnome just so I can follow better, I did try in gnome as well
[07:17] <crimsun> in KDE, set arts to release the sound device after 2 seconds
[07:17] <crimsun> no
[07:17] <_Simon[work] > k
[07:18] <_Simon[work] > right now under hardware, its set to autodetect
[07:18] <_Simon[work] > should I set it to enlighten sound daemon
[07:18] <_Simon[work] > or leave it
[07:18] <crimsun> leave it
[07:18] <crimsun> just set the idle timeout to 2 seconds
[07:18] <_Simon[work] > k doing
[07:18] <crov> how to update apg-get list to recognize " sudo apt-get install java-package java-common
[07:18] <crov> "
[07:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell crov about sources
[07:19] <mere> apt-get update
[07:19] <_Simon[work] > ok.. it restarted the sound daemon.. lemme give it some time to idle or what not
[07:19] <mere> it will read and retrieve lists from the servers it's configured to read
[07:19] <gearry> daved: sorry, I got called away for a moment
[07:19] <mere> but then it's not bad idea to make sure the packages you are about to install _are_ in those lists.
[07:19] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: nope still nothing
[07:20] <joee> hey how do I check if wajig start oracle succeeded?
[07:20] <_Simon[work] > PortAudio: read interrupted! 40 times then segfault lol
[07:20] <sportman> meh
[07:20] <gearry> daved: if I copy that file I have to rename it correct; it should be just config correct?
[07:20] <_Simon[work] > crimsun: do I need any packages or anything for oss?
[07:22] <crov> mere: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:23] <mere> loked? o.o is apt being used?
[07:23] <nalioth> crov: use sudo before your command
[07:24] <crov> nalioth: ops :))
[07:25] <mere> sudo apt-cache search <keyword> should lookup what you want in the lists apt retrieves
[07:25] <crov> is breezy have this package E: Couldn't find package java-package i need it for java in firefox...
[07:25] <bslima> how can i update my ubuntu for 5.10 ?
[07:25] <mere> eerm no need to use sudo in apt-cache i think
[07:25] <zAo^> bslima, www.ubuntuguide.org | search for breezy
[07:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell crov about javadeb
[07:25] <nalioth> zAo^: please dont advise ubuntuguide
[07:26] <zAo^> k
[07:26] <bslima> zAo^, Warning! This is still in it's development stage. Only use it for experimental purposes
[07:26] <bslima>          Doing this might break your entire system
[07:26] <bslima> still warning ?
[07:26] <windex> !ubuntuguide
[07:26] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[07:26] <lon3tree> hi windex
[07:27] <zAo^> bslima, I know. But hey, the guy asked
[07:27] <lon3tree> hi bigpolar
[07:28] <gearry> daved: I hope I did not annoy you
[07:28] <crov> nalioth: let me try this thnx
[07:29] <gearry> I need to build some modules from patched kernel source, but I want to use the default ubuntu kernel config, which daved showed me is in /boot; how can I apply this config to the source?
[07:29] <_jason> I would just like to say that I am very impressed with breezy :D
[07:30] <zAo^> gearry, the config of the Ubuntukernel is in /boot/config-`uname -r`
[07:31] <dreamwave> what do i use to burn an iso image?  i can't find the option in the nautilus cd/dvd creator.
[07:31] <gearry> can I just copy /boot/config-2.6.10-5-386 to /path/to/kernelsrc/config?
[07:31] <scenestar> hello
[07:31] <HappyFool> dreamwave: right click on the .iso file in nautilus -- there should be a 'burn' option
[07:31] <nalioth> dreamwave: use k3b, or graveman or gnomebaker
[07:31] <HappyFool> gearry: i think it might be '.config'
[07:32] <zAo^> gearry, if its the same version, yes
[07:32] <HappyFool> gearry: have you read the kernelhowto on the wiki?
[07:32] <gearry> it is the same version
[07:32] <scenestar> im having trouble configurinh wine, i cannot isntall dcom98
[07:32] <scenestar> even if i compile the daily cvs
[07:32] <HappyFool> scenestar: tried asking in #winehq ?
[07:32] <dreamwave> HappyFool, "Write to disc..."?
[07:32] <Secreth`X> (I splitted one partition into 2, but can I install Ubuntu on part 2 when still having windows installed on part 1?)
[07:32] <scenestar> HappyFool: tried that, ill try again
[07:33] <HappyFool> dreamwave: i think that's it
[07:33] <gearry> HappyFool: no, but I will go check that out now
[07:33] <Secreth`X> sorry for my talker..
[07:33] <HappyFool> !tell gearry about kernelhowto
[07:35] <Secreth`X> I splitted one partition into 2, but can I install Ubuntu on part 2 when still having windows installed on part 1?
[07:35] <gearry> HappyFool: I had found it, but thank you
[07:36] <nalioth> Secreth`X: open a terminal and type "sudo fdisk -l"
[07:36] <randomc0de> is it possible to make the deadzone on a multimonitor setup unusable? like prevent GNOME from putting anything there?
[07:36] <lon3tree> anyone use pptpconfig here?
[07:36] <thesilentkiller> i have a bash scripting issue. not related to ubuntu, but i thought you guys could help. i am trying to create a bash script which does something as simple as "cd ..". i typed this command in a file myscript.sh (without the quotes). when i run it, i get the error ": No such file or directory cd:". any clues?
[07:36] <Secreth`X> nalioth: it was a question if i can do that
[07:36] <nalioth> thesilentkiller: what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:36] <Secreth`X> i didnt do it already
[07:36] <nalioth> Secreth`X: yes you can
[07:36] <spola> thesilentkiller, cd isnt a program, its a shll builtin
[07:37] <Secreth`X> nalioth thanks
[07:37] <lon3tree> pptpconfig , anybody?
[07:37] <HappyFool> what's the mode to prevent spam? /mode HappyFool +E ?
[07:37] <thesilentkiller> spola: then, how should i "cd" to a directory and do some stuff there?
[07:37] <obiyoda> Hi, I am trying to use videolan but it is trying to open up the oss audio device when it should be opening the esd device. Does anybody know how to change this?
[07:37] <nalioth> HappyFool: the network has the spam thing enabled by defauult
[07:37] <spola> thesilentkiller, beats me, just use absolute paths
[07:38] <gearry> HappyFool: ubuntu documentation rules
[07:38] <thesilentkiller> spola: hmm, interesting. thanks. i will use relative paths from wherever i am running the script from
[07:38] <gearry> I need to train myself to look at the wiki first
[07:38] <spola> yeah you can use relative paths too, that might even be better
[07:39] <egoleo> how to install codecs
[07:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell egoleo about w32codecs
[07:39] <thesilentkiller> nalioth: i am trying to run some commands (copy a few files , etc) from a script file. spola tells me that "cd" is not a command. so it cant be run from a script file. what other way can i "cd" to a directory from a script file?
[07:39] <crov> nalioth: when i download "sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb" what is safe way to install to work with firefox :)
[07:39] <nalioth> crov: "sudo dkpg -i file.deb"
[07:40] <crov> nalioth: thnx that way i know :)) (Downloading brb)
[07:41] <egoleo> which one should i choose
[07:41] <egoleo> the codecs
[07:41] <nalioth> egoleo: breezy or hoary?
[07:41] <egoleo> breezy
[07:41] <morale> fuck linux sucks on amd64
[07:42] <egoleo> breezy
[07:42] <nalioth> egoleo: then the breezy ones
[07:42] <pmjdebruijn> morale, every OS sucks on amd64
[07:42] <morale> ld.so is stupid.
[07:42] <pmjdebruijn> because third party vendors are retarded
[07:42] <randomc0de> anyone know if it's possible to stop GNOME from putting anything in the deadzone between a multimonitor setup? I have a 1280x1024 LCD and 1024x786 CRT
[07:42] <nalioth> morale: please watch your language
[07:42] <egoleo> which one is for breezy
[07:42] <egoleo> http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[07:42] <humbolt> how can I get my bootsplash+console run at 1024x768 or 1280x800?
[07:42] <Jhair> I don't have any problems with ubuntu on amd64, what do you exactly mean morale
[07:42] <nalioth> egoleo: read the msg ubotu sent you
[07:42] <thierryl> mmmh I ve got Breezy badger runing well on AMD 64 FX 57
[07:42] <egoleo> it takes me to that site
[07:43] <egoleo> ok
[07:43] <BOB1234> hey all
[07:43] <egoleo> i have downloaded
[07:43] <egoleo> so how do i install it
[07:43] <BOB1234> guys i need help getting wireless internet working on hoary
[07:43] <nalioth> egoleo: run it in your bittorrent client
[07:43] <egoleo> its got .torrent
[07:43] <egoleo> ok
[07:44] <BOB1234> my wireless works in windows xp but not in hoary
[07:44] <primero> Hola
[07:44] <lon3tree> does anyone here use pptpconfig for vpn server?
[07:44] <tarzeau> nobody join us? gnu.ethz.ch:33276 with http://bub-n-bros.sf.net ?
[07:45] <BOB1234> is there any commands i can run to get it to detect wireless?
[07:45] <Jhair> lon3tree: i do use pptp to connect to my vpn but I configured it manually, not using pptpconfig
[07:45] <lon3tree> oh great, finally
[07:45] <egoleo> so after tht what next
[07:45] <nalioth> BOB1234: iwlist
[07:45] <pmjdebruijn> tarzeau, damn, that looks really cool
[07:45] <NoUse> BOB1234 there is a wireless config app in the network config app
[07:46] <BOB1234> k h/o
[07:46] <BOB1234> brb
[07:46] <lon3tree> Jhair, how do I get the client to see the rest of the PC in the LAN?
[07:46] <nalioth> egoleo: in a terminal, type "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[07:46] <tarzeau> pmjdebruijn: and it's pretty LOL, we're 3 players already
[07:46] <pmjdebruijn> tarzeau, heh, gotta compiler that later on
[07:46] <egoleo> ok
[07:46] <egoleo> xiexie
[07:46] <tarzeau> pmjdebruijn: it's python, nothing to compile
[07:46] <Jhair> lon3tree: you should add a route when the ppp1 interface is up
[07:46] <pmjdebruijn> tarzeau, oh cool...
[07:47] <lon3tree> how ? -- Jhair
[07:47] <lon3tree> wat the commandline ?
[07:47] <lon3tree> where do i add the route?
[07:47] <lon3tree> on the vpn server?
[07:47] <Jhair> lon3tree: I added that to /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/1vpn_routes-up
[07:48] <BOB1234> nalioth i ran that command it just did a whole bunch of stuff that said [interface]  encryption [interface]  channels
[07:48] <BOB1234> NoUse where is the wireless config app
[07:48] <lon3tree> can I PM you Jhair?
[07:48] <Jhair> lon3tree: I will paste that file for you, wait a minute
[07:48] <lon3tree> oh great
[07:48] <lon3tree> thank you
[07:48] <VeRiTTo> HI
[07:48] <flogiston> Is it posible to install only the kernell, X, fluxbox, and synaptic from the cd?
[07:49] <VeRiTTo> May you tell me What is channel spanish ubuntus?
[07:49] <nalioth> !es
[07:49] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:49] <mkyb14> does anyone know how to enable a second hd.... it's not letting me enable my other hd?
[07:49] <Ofe> !fi
[07:49] <ubotu> Ofe: Not a clue
[07:49] <VeRiTTo> Gracias
[07:49] <BOB1234> !wireless
[07:49] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:50] <nalioth> you guys quit !fishing
[07:50] <nalioth> !ubotu
[07:50] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:50] <nalioth> yall read the URL and see all the factoids
[07:50] <Jhair> lon3tree: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2800
[07:51] <Ofe> someone change !fi to "Suomalaiset: Suomea puhutaan kanavalla #ubuntu-fi" <- in english: "Finnish people: Finnish is spoken in channel #ubuntu-fi"
[07:51] <Jhair> lon3tree: of course you need to adjust it to the name of your provider file, your network and your interface, but so you can adjust the route table
[07:51] <mkyb14> anyone know how to enable a second hd....and what the "path" means in to program
[07:51] <obiyoda> does anybody know how to change the audio device that vlc uses?
[07:51] <apokryphos> Ofe: you can change it, too :)
[07:51] <lon3tree> thanks Jhair
[07:51] <lon3tree> i will look at it now
[07:51] <mkyb14> it's default upon the system.. change your system audio and vlc will follow
[07:51] <Jhair> lon3tree: the script will run after the vpn connection has been established and adjust the route table so you can access the machines on your lan
[07:52] <miraculix> hi
[07:52] <Ofe> apokryphos: I can? o.O no operator/moderator status needed?
[07:52] <apokryphos> Ofe: that's right! Just like a wiki
[07:52] <Ofe> apokryphos: cool. open source rocks
[07:52] <BOB1234> nouse can u tell me where the wireless network config app is
[07:52] <BOB1234> for ubuntu
[07:52] <nalioth> Ofe: try it now
[07:52] <apokryphos> Ofe: nothing really to do with open source, but yeah :P
[07:53] <Secreth`X> does someone have expierience with FIPS? (a program for splitting partitions)
[07:53] <lon3tree> Jhair
[07:53] <nalioth> Secreth`X: use parted
[07:53] <Ofe> apokryphos: well, the spirit is that anyone can do it if willing, right? :)
[07:53] <Secreth`X> parted?
[07:53] <Ofe> !fi
[07:53] <ubotu> I guess fi is "Suomalaiset: Suomea puhutaan kanavalla #ubuntu-fi"
[07:53] <Shin_Gouki> hi is it in theory possible to install oracle 10g on ubuntu?
[07:53] <lon3tree> how should i go about with this script?
[07:53] <apokryphos> Ofe: correct
[07:53] <robin_> Is there a code-freeze on Breezy ? Or will there be significant changes before the release ? Otherwise I will install it now.
[07:53] <mknittel> anyone know where mono-devel went in universe?
[07:53] <Ofe> thanks nalioth.
[07:53] <nalioth> robin_: code freeze since 3 weeks ago
[07:53] <mkyb14> install it now, you'll be fine
[07:54] <Jhair> lon3tree: I am not sure if the script is actually answering your question.can you connect to the vpn?
[07:54] <VeRiTTo> Nobody write in ubuntus-es
[07:54] <robin_> nalioth: ok, so only bug fixes ?
[07:54] <crov> which icq client for ubuntu you ppl use?
[07:54] <nalioth> robin_: yup
[07:54] <mkyb14> xchat
[07:54] <apokryphos> VeRiTTo: it's not as active as here, but people do write in it
[07:54] <robin_> nalioth: ok, thx.
[07:54] <lon3tree> yes
[07:54] <Jhair> lon3tree: you should put the script in the /etc/ppp/ip-up.d directry
[07:54] <lon3tree> i can connect
[07:54] <Shin_Gouki> hi anybody here did EVER install oracle on ubuntu?
[07:54] <mkyb14> not i
[07:54] <mere> crov, centericq (myself) gaim can handle it too.
[07:54] <lon3tree> and name it 1vpn_routes-up ?
[07:54] <Jhair> lon3tree: can you ping machines on your network using their IP address?
[07:55] <BOB1234> where is there wireless network coniguration app ? anyone?
[07:55] <RockyBurt> ok, this is getting really annoying... on breezy right now my firefox starts exhibiting really bizarre symptoms when i try searching using the find at the bottom of the window ... anyone else see this?
[07:55] <Jhair> lon3tree: the name doesn't matter, you can name it as you want
[07:55] <lon3tree> no i can't Jhair
[07:55] <mkyb14> google the wireless network config
[07:55] <lon3tree> i can only ping on the server machines
[07:55] <Jhair> lon3tree: ok, than probably what is missing is the right route so you need to set it
[07:55] <mkyb14> lon3tree your trying to ping the other computers on your internal network?
[07:55] <pvh> I'm having trouble with printing. Are there any troubleshooting guides?
[07:55] <lon3tree> no mkyb14
[07:56] <Jhair> lon3tree: probably is a better idea if you test without the script but setting the route table manually
[07:56] <Secreth`X> nalioth: does parted need to format the partition?
[07:56] <crov> can also apache 1.3.33 work with ubuntu, as in http://ubuntuguide.org/#installapachehttpserve is only writed on apache2
[07:56] <Jhair> lon3tree: and then testing if you can ping the other machines
[07:56] <lon3tree> after connected to the VPN i tried to ping on the other machines on the remote
[07:56] <lon3tree> it is a great help Jhair
[07:56] <nalioth> Secreth`X: parted can shrink your existing partitions, leaving you with free space for linux
[07:57] <lon3tree> how do I go about with manual ip table?
[07:57] <nalioth> Secreth`X: see g- or qt- for parted frontends
[07:57] <lon3tree> sorry if i sound stupid
[07:58] <lon3tree> i mean route table
[07:58] <Jhair> lon3tree: that depends on your network, the script that I sent you does: route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> dev ppp1
[07:58] <BOB1234> anyone know how to add a wireless network to ubuntu (hoary)
[07:58] <crov> mere: what is the package name for the centericq as "sudo apt-get install centericq" is not found
[07:59] <lon3tree> and <IP_ADDRESS> is the remote LAN ip?
[07:59] <Jhair> lon3tree: you should check if you have the ppp1 interface up after you connect to the vpn, the values for netmask and after -net may change from network to network so you should ask your network administrator for that information
[07:59] <Secreth`X> ok thx nalioth
[07:59] <lon3tree> yes i have Jhair
[07:59] <thompa> hey anybody: im running breezy badger rc, can i just keep updating it and not have to install the final release?
[07:59] <apokryphos> thompa: of course
[07:59] <lon3tree> one question Jhair
[07:59] <Secreth`X> nalioth: so if I understand you correctly, its not splitting it, but shrinking it?
[07:59] <apokryphos> thompa: if you do a dist-upgrade after the release-date you'll have official anyway
[07:59] <Jhair> lon3tree: yes in that case -net <IP_ADDRESS> is the network
[08:00] <g_ariel> hey, ubuntu lovers, how the heck do i install skype for Ubuntu?
[08:00] <lon3tree> so I do this on client?
[08:00] <nalioth> Secreth`X: yes parted can shring your windows partition
[08:00] <thompa> apokryphos: how can i remove old kernekl entries in grub then
[08:00] <Secreth`X> nalioth: thanks again for all your help
[08:00] <Jhair> lon3tree: which client do you mean?
[08:00] <apokryphos> thompa: removing the kernel should remove them...
[08:00] <apokryphos> thompa: you likely still have them installed
[08:00] <lon3tree> the pptp client?
[08:01] <BOB1234> How do I add a wireless network to ubuntu
[08:01] <thompa> thanks, where can i remove the older kernels?
[08:01] <thompa> should i use synaptic?
[08:01] <Jhair> lon3tree: I haven't used the pptp client myself, but probably it has some dialog boxes to enter that information. In fact the information about the route table doesn't depend on the pptp client it only depends on the interface
[08:01] <Shinjan> hi folks
[08:01] <apokryphos> thompa: sure
[08:02] <zeasier> how do i run an installation script after installation?
[08:02] <VeRiTTo> Hi! Anybody can tell me how do a mount the pendrive?
[08:02] <ompaul> zeasier, what do you want to achieve
[08:02] <BOB1234> is there a command i can run in the terminal to detect wireless??????
[08:02] <BOB1234> besides iwlist
[08:02] <BOB1234> because i already ran that and idk wat it did
[08:02] <zeasier> ompaul - i've got a system with messed up networking i want to run the network configuration again
[08:02] <buzzc1> BOB1234: try iwconifg
[08:03] <Secreth`X> nalioth: It can only run under linux, I have windows by default so can I use parted in the Ubuntu Live cd ?
[08:03] <lon3tree> hmmm, its getting deeper
[08:03] <thompa> is anybody using kde here. im new to gnome
[08:03] <nalioth> BOB1234: you need to look at your options in iwlist
[08:03] <nalioth> Secreth`X: yes
[08:03] <thompa> so far gnome seems ok
[08:03] <nalioth> Secreth`X: defragment your windows first
[08:03] <ompaul> zeasier, you don't want to run an installation script :) you want to run System Administration Networking
[08:03] <Secreth`X> ok
[08:03] <Secreth`X> nalioth thx
[08:03] <Jhair> lon3tree: is not that complicated, you just need to have the right route table, the one liner I sent you with the correct parameters should do it
[08:03] <BOB1234> i ran iwconfig and it told me that no wireless extensions found]
[08:04] <ompaul> zeasier, is it wireless?
[08:04] <zeasier> ompaul - yes that would be fine, but this is a server
[08:04] <Jhair> lon3tree: if you already have that information from your network administrator you are ready
[08:04] <lon3tree> yes I noe Jhair
[08:04] <zeasier> ompaul - so there is no X or gnome
[08:04] <BOB1234> nalioth what options...where do I choose options in iwlist
[08:04] <lon3tree> but do i do the route on the server or on my client machine?
[08:04] <ompaul> zeasier, that is fine you want to run pppoeconf
[08:04] <thompa> i need to ask this again sorry
[08:04] <thompa> in disk manager,
[08:04] <ompaul> zeasier, that is fine you want to run pppoe-discovery may also be useful
[08:04] <Jhair> lon3tree: on your machine, sure... are you the administrator of the vpn server?
[08:04] <thompa> where do i set my windows access path?
[08:05] <pinko> hello.  so what do you do when lsusb lists your printer but gnome-cups-manager can't find it?
[08:05] <nalioth> BOB1234: you need to run "iwlist scan" you also need to be aware of "man iwlist"
[08:05] <zeasier> ompaul - pppoe-discovery? i just just have a static ip on a local network
[08:05] <lon3tree> yes Jhair
[08:05] <Cryptid> i tried downloading real player(installer) but during the set up it ask me for the directory where the real player got saved can some 1 please tell me where it got saved
[08:05] <BOB1234> nalioth : dont type "man iwlist" rite?
[08:05] <ompaul> zeasier, then pppoeconf as already mentioned, people do run servers with dydns :)
[08:06] <BOB1234> or u mean just look for it in "iwlist scan"
[08:06] <Jhair> lon3tree: btw, the howtos on http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/ are worth read, probably you can find there more details
[08:06] <ompaul> paul_lost, your are in #ubuntu :)
[08:06] <thompa> anybody: in disks manager where should i set my windows ntfs partition?
[08:06] <nalioth> Cryptid: /usr/local/lib/mozilla/plugins or ~/.mozilla/plugins are good places for realplayer
[08:06] <ompaul> !tell thompa about ntfs
[08:07] <thompa> thanks
[08:07] <ompaul> thompa, that message from ubotu will sort you out
[08:07] <nalioth> BOB1234: type "iwlist scan" to look for things
[08:07] <BOB1234> nalioth: iwlist scan returned - "interface does not support scanning"
[08:07] <nalioth> BOB1234: type "man iwlist" to learn all of iwlist functions
[08:07] <thompa> ok great
[08:07] <paul_lost> hey does anyone know how to get my belkin F5d7050 usb wi-fi to work on ubuntu 5.10
[08:07] <nalioth> BOB1234: then you'll need to ask how to have that enabled (i dont know how)
[08:07] <thompa> ill avoid the disk manager for now then
[08:08] <ompaul> thompa, that would be the idea :)
[08:08] <BOB1234> wtf....i dont get it at all
[08:08] <Blissex> paul_lost: someone does.
[08:08] <thompa> ompaul: since it gave me trouble before anyway
[08:08] <thompa> thanks
[08:08] <BOB1234> shit..im never going to get this working
[08:08] <paul_lost> blissex... know who?
[08:09] <Cryptid> nalioth how do i get real player via aptget
[08:09] <anethema> doh
[08:09] <anethema> getting some stupid error
[08:09] <anethema> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libmp4v2-0_2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libmp4v2.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libmp4-0
[08:09] <Blissex> paul_lost: this guy perhaps: http://WWW.LinuxQuestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=2820 but 'ndiswrapper' is ugly
[08:09] <ompaul> thompa, enjoy (said without the cheesy grin of a person in a burger selling location)
[08:09] <anethema> upping to breezy
[08:09] <nalioth> Cryptid: get the helixplayer
[08:09] <thompa> cheerio!
[08:09] <zeasier> i keep getting "portmap: server localhost not responding, timed out" and "RPC: failed to contact portmap (errno -5)." in /var/log/kern.log. does anyone know what is going on?
[08:09] <lon3tree> thanks a lot Jhair
[08:10] <paul_lost> cheers i will give that a try
[08:10] <anethema> anyone know what i should do?
[08:10] <lon3tree> I will read up and try out
[08:10] <Blissex> paul_lost: and this open source driver allegedly now works, the very lastest version: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Downloads
[08:10] <zeasier> that is why i'm asking how to redo my networking install, because something fundemental seems broken
[08:10] <BOB1234> can anyone tell me how to make wireless work on ubuntu HOARY
[08:11] <crov> mere: what is the package name for the centericq as "sudo apt-get install centericq" is not found
[08:11] <pinko> I'll ask again, just in case:  what do you do when lsusb lists your printer but gnome-cups-manager can't find it?
[08:11] <Dreamglider> the updates i have downloaded can i save them so i dont have to download them again if i need to reinstall Ubuntu ?
[08:12] <nalioth> crov: "apt-cache search centericq"
[08:12] <paul_lost> i am totally new to linux where can i get a simple as in just left windows simple guide to installing new drivers/devices
[08:12] <nalioth> Dreamglider: apt-get saves its pkgs, yes
[08:12] <anethema> centericq should work
[08:12] <anethema> at least its there in breezy
[08:12] <apokryphos> crov: it's in Universe; enable the repository then you can install it
[08:12] <nalioth> paul_lost: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[08:12] <BOB1234> does anyone have wireless working in ubuntu
[08:12] <ompaul> BOB1234, have you done ndiswrapper?
[08:13] <shedi> BOB1234, yes, mine is working so fine
[08:13] <JDahl> paul_lost, normally you don't install new drivers. What specifically is your problem?
[08:13] <Dreamglider> nalioth,  i used the Update manager in ubuntu, are the pkgs allso saved then ?
[08:13] <BOB1234> no ompaul
[08:13] <mkyb14> can anyone suggest a good yahoo chat client for linux??
[08:13] <BOB1234> oim gonna go try that BRB
[08:13] <paul_lost> just going to do ndiswrapper now
[08:13] <Gwildor> mknittel, gaim
[08:13] <thompa> !tell thompa about nvidia
[08:13] <nalioth> Dreamglider: yup. updae mangler uses apt as its backend
[08:13] <ompaul> !tell BOB1234 about ndiswrapper
[08:13] <thompa> !nvidia
[08:13] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:14] <Dreamglider> nalioth, ok and where ard the pkgs saved ?
[08:14] <hussam> Dreamglider: do this, sudo tar zcvf apt.tgz /etc/apt/ /var/lib/apt/ /var/cache/apt/
[08:14] <nalioth> Dreamglider: /var/cache/apt/archive
[08:14] <ompaul> thompa, please message the bot for yourself, if your telling others then letting them undstand that the bot is telling them for a reason is god
[08:14] <dvhart> the ubuntu hoary openbox package claims xinerama support, but wasn't built with libxinerama support.  I downloaded the source and built with libxinerama-dev and installed that deb, and now it works correctly.  The listed package maintainer is the debian guy (who does his builds with libxinerama for debian), and he said to bug the ubuntu guys.
[08:14] <hussam> Dreamglider: that should archive the downloaded updates
[08:14] <anethema> !faq
[08:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[08:14] <ompaul> s/god/good/
[08:14] <BOB1234> ndiswrapper - command not found
[08:15] <thesilentkiller> naoliths_dog: whatsup
[08:15] <dvhart> so is this the right forum, or should I submit a bug?
[08:15] <MaTaks> how can i play my mp3 files on linux
[08:15] <BOB1234> ompaul ndiswrapper doesnt exist
[08:15] <Dreamglider> MaTaks, use xmms
[08:15] <MaTaks> is it already in ubuntu?
[08:15] <nalioth> ubotu: tell MaTaks about mp3
[08:15] <thompa> ompaul: just seeing how it works.
[08:16] <Dreamglider> i dont think so
[08:16] <thompa> are you saying we should never !?
[08:16] <dvhart> MadpilotPPC, rhythmbox,muine,mpg123,xmms,etc etc etc
[08:16] <dvhart> MaTaks,, rhythmbox,muine,mpg123,xmms,etc etc etc
[08:16] <dvhart> MadpilotPPC, sorry... stupid autocomplete :-)
[08:16] <MaTaks> ok thnx man
[08:17] <dvhart> MaTaks, aptitude search music; aptitude search mp3;
[08:17] <Dreamglider> wait, yes it's on the cd you can add the program by going to System > Administration > Add Apps
[08:17] <paul_lost> someone give a quick explanation what ndiswrapper is and how to do it?
[08:17] <ompaul> BOB1234,  ndiswrapper-utils ndisgtk
[08:17] <Cryptid> nalioth, i tried the realplayer directory u mentioned but it didnt work please try it on ur computer and tell me where exactly does the realplayer installer gets downloaded
[08:17] <s3[mn] rain> Is it just me, or does Konqueror's web page rendering really suck? Take www.newegg.com for example....
[08:17] <ompaul> thompa, :)
[08:18] <nalioth> Cryptid: if you dont tell it one of those directories, it wont work
[08:18] <thompa> ompaul: are you using kde by any chance?
[08:18] <HappyFool> paul_lost: i think it lets you use (some?) MS Windows wireless network drivers on linux
[08:19] <HappyFool> !tell paul_lost about ndiswrapper
[08:19] <BOB1234> ompaul : "ndiswrapper-utils      command not found"
[08:19] <Cryptid> nalioth, i tired those dir but it didnt work it says that the installer is present or it is corrupted i also tried searching for that file but i wsa unable to fint the file
[08:19] <HappyFool> paul_lost: that wiki page should tell you more
[08:19] <ompaul> BOB1234, install it :) it is in main so it should work from the off
[08:19] <ompaul> thompa, no I do not do that
[08:19] <Dreamglider> MaTaks, you should see it under Video & Sound > Other programms if i remember correct
[08:20] <thompa> ompaul: ok nevermind. gnome seems to work fine
[08:20] <MaTaks> in my sound and video i dont have any mp3 player
[08:20] <shedi> BOB1234, apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[08:20] <MaTaks> only cd and music player
[08:20] <vbgunz_> someone proficient in Mozilla Thunderbird please help me, please. I only need to convert 5 Windows paths to Ubuntu paths, please help, this is my one and only major obstacle in migrating over to Ubuntu with ease. please help!
[08:20] <ompaul> thompa, if you want to install it apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or do it from syanptic
[08:20] <nalioth> Cryptid: https://helixcommunity.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=154
[08:20] <mathieu15457> il ya des fran?ais ?
[08:20] <NoUse> MaTaks Music player places mp3s
[08:20] <NoUse> !tell MaTaks about mp3
[08:20] <nalioth> !fr
[08:20] <ubotu> [fr]  Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:21] <mathieu15457> merci
[08:21] <thompa> ompaul: im a little afraid too, since everything is working. just miss kdelook backgrounds and stuff
[08:21] <ompaul> thompa, well there is gnome-look the same only better :-))))))
[08:21] <vbgunz_> anyone using Thunderbird with the time to answer just 5 questions in regards to path mapping, it will be greatly appreciated, please help
[08:21] <shedi> vbgunz_, are you asking about the profiles
[08:22] <nalioth> vbgunz_: you know the rules here. ASK your question
[08:22] <thompa> ompaul: ok, did not know thanks
[08:22] <vbgunz_> shedi, yes, I need to change paths in Thunderbird from C:\etc to map to Linux
[08:22] <thompa> never used gnome in my life
[08:22] <vbgunz_> nalioth, thank you
[08:22] <dallingham> Has anybody had any success is getting the Alps Glidepoint working under the 2.6.12 kernel? I can't seem to turn off the tap.
[08:22] <vbgunz_> "C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator" what is the Ubuntu equivalent?
[08:22] <paul_lost> i got permission denied when i tried to apt-get ndiswrapper... why?
[08:22] <shedi> vbgunz_, are you doing dual boot?
[08:22] <ompaul> vbgunz_, if the questions were posted in the channel you might get answers if you have a long question maybe pastebin where the paths could be shown after the question and then your life could be easier
[08:23] <nalioth> vbgunz_: look in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[08:23] <ompaul> vbgunz_, this is not Windows - there is no equivalent
[08:23] <Cryptid> nalioth, thanx for the link, now which file do i download the .rpm file and convert it using alient or do i download the the .bin file or .tar.bz2
[08:23] <vbgunz_> shedi, yes at tthe moment I am *but* I really fell in love with Ubuntu and wish to start really using it more than Windows... mostly everything I do in Windows I can now do in Ubuntu... I am loving it
[08:23] <nalioth> vbgunz_: all your setttings are there
[08:23] <shedi> vbgunz_,  you can't have your mail dir in a ntfs partition
[08:23] <nalioth> Cryptid: the bin, for easyness
[08:23] <shedi> vbgunz_, you need to be able to write to the mail boxes
[08:24] <Cryptid> nalioth now do i install the .bin files
[08:24] <Cryptid> nalioth, i never tried installing using .bin files so i dont know
[08:24] <nalioth> Cryptid: chmod +x file.bin  and then ./file.bin
[08:24] <ompaul> vbgunz_, there is the alternative path, the one that works in Linux, say what fle you want and away you go
[08:24] <shedi> vbgunz_, use of ntfs write support isn't suggested
[08:24] <joe__> hello everyone
[08:24] <ompaul> hey joe__
[08:25] <shedi> vbgunz_,  this can be done if your mailboxes are on a fat32 partiton
[08:25] <paul_lost> umm still 13 permission denied when i try to apt- get ndiswrapper
[08:25] <Knowerrors> gday yall
[08:25] <joe__> Gnome isn't starting for me, i can only get into xchat by doing a failsafe terminal, even failsafe gnome doesn't work!
[08:25] <nalioth> Cryptid: you'll want to install the plugin(s) into /usr/local/lib/mozilla/plugins or ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[08:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell paul_lost about sources
[08:25] <BOB1234> umm ompaul I installed ndiswrapper-utils from the cd offline mode...and the command ndiswrapper works now..but ndiswrapper-utils command not found
[08:25] <HappyFool> paul_lost: try 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper'
[08:25] <vbgunz_> shedi, maybe you misunderstood... I am sorry, I do not wish to access my mail on a NTFS drive. I wish to migrate my profile from NTFS to Ubuntu on EXT3. I wish to access my mail and profile locally...
[08:26] <nalioth> vbgunz_: your profile is in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[08:26] <Cryptid> chmod +x helixplayer.bin and then next line should be ./helixplayer.bin * are the plugins installed automatically or do i have to download them seperatly
[08:26] <nalioth> vbgunz_: you can copy your profile from windows if you like to gamble
[08:26] <vbgunz_> *but* I need to migrate my Windows profile to Ubuntu... so don't I need to change the paths from Windows paths to Linux paths?
[08:26] <nalioth> Cryptid: the bin file installs the plugins
[08:27] <ompaul> !tell BOB1234 about ndiswrapper
[08:27] <BOB1234> anyway now that Ive got it what command do i put in with ndiswrapper to make it DETECT my wireless connetion
[08:27] <nalioth> vbgunz_: you are confusing me
[08:27] <ompaul> BOB1234, that little message from the bot should help you
[08:27] <joe__> bye
[08:27] <paul_lost> couldnt find package...
[08:27] <rnasklaved> Does anybody know how I can startup in commandline with ubuntu installed?
[08:27] <joe__> you can install a server installation, or hit ctrl_shift_f1
[08:28] <Cryptid> nalioth, during the installationprocess does it give me a option of installing the plugins into the mozilla direcoty???
[08:28] <shedi> vbgunz_, you need to copy the whole damn thing to ubuntu if you intend to use it from the system
[08:28] <vbgunz_> on Windows, you cannot easily move a Mozilla firefox or thunderbird profile from one directory to another... you'll destroy it... But I have replacing paths down to a science so I know how to move profiles on Windows with ease... I assume I cannot just drag and drop my Windows thunderbord profile onto Ubuntu *because* the Linux paths will not be there *only* windows paths... *so*  i am trying to *replace* all my Windows paths with the L
[08:28] <Knowerrors> Is there a way to download ubuntu packages on a windows machine to burn on cd and use to update?  Im stuck on modem at home, and need to use broadband at school to update
[08:28] <nalioth> Cryptid: it should
[08:28] <shedi> vbgunz_, as far as I know
[08:28] <Lars_G> I've done something pretty stupid, seeminlgy unharmfull, please help me.
[08:28] <HappyFool> Knowerrors: you can check out apt-zip
[08:29] <vbgunz_> anyone get the idea?
[08:29] <nalioth> vbgunz_: your profile is your profile for mozilla stuff
[08:29] <Knowerrors> HappyFool: Ive heard of that... but will it work under windows?
[08:29] <HappyFool> Lars_G: if you tell us, maybe we can help
[08:29] <Lars_G> Basically I plugged in an USB HDD, and I wrongly did a: "mount /dev/sda1 /"
[08:29] <HappyFool> Knowerrors: i don't know
[08:29] <Lars_G> Now I have TWO mounts as root
[08:29] <Lars_G> and I can't umount the second one (even using the original device) because it's of course "in use"
[08:30] <Lars_G> sigh
[08:30] <cevizoglu> Lars_G, do a umount /dev/sda1 and try again
[08:30] <Knowerrors> are the ubuntu repos available to download as isos?  some kind of extras cds or something?
[08:30] <Lars_G> cevizoglu: Nyet
[08:30] <paul_lost> i have allready added repositories and it still cant find ndiswrapper
[08:30] <vbgunz_> what are the following equivalents, a little help is appreciated.... "C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator" AND "C:\\Documents and Settings\\Administrator" AND "C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\ADMINISTRATOR" AND "C:\\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\\ADMINISTRATOR" AND "C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator"
[08:30] <ssam> here an interesting problem, i have just upgraded a via epia mini itx computer to breezy, and the boot is hanging on "checking battery state", there is no battery, ctrl+c does nothing,  any ideas?
[08:30] <egoleo> zai jian
[08:30] <nalioth> vbgunz_: the contents of c:/Documents and settings/vbgunz/Applications data/mozilla thunderbird  are the saem as the ones you'll find in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/random.bleh/
[08:30] <Lars_G> vbgunz_: /home/<username>
[08:30] <Lars_G> vbgunz_: and for root: /root
[08:30] <nalioth> vbgunz_: you are not listening to me
[08:31] <HappyFool> Lars_G: you mounted a usb disk at / ?
[08:31] <Lars_G> nalioth: No, he seems not to be.
[08:31] <vbgunz_> Lars_G: thank you, nalioth, sorry, say again :(
[08:31] <Lars_G> HappyFool: Yep. let's say I was "enter happy" :(
[08:31] <nalioth> vbgunz_: scroll up and look for your nick
[08:31] <Fraeon> So what happens when you unmount the thing? ;>
[08:31] <Lars_G> vbgunz_: Btw posting different ways of writting the same is spam and not usefull.
[08:32] <HappyFool> Lars_G: i may be wrong, but you probably can't unmount, since umount is on the other mount. not to mention libc, ld.so etc. etc.
[08:32] <shedi> vbgunz_,  you can't just set the profile path to a mailbox located on a ntfs partiton
[08:32] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[08:32] <cevizoglu> Lars_G, no, actually spam is unsolicited email
[08:32] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need configure my init.d scripts 8(
[08:32] <Lars_G> Happu: I can still read my whole directory it's very odd. and umount works, but of course it reports the disk is in use...
[08:32] <vbgunz_> oh my god, I don't thuink anyone understands *but* I have been trying my best to explain the situation...
[08:32] <shedi> vbgunz_,  I mean you can, but it will be a disaster when thunderbird wants to write to the mailbox
[08:32] <HappyFool> Lars_G: what does 'mount' say?
[08:32] <BOB1234> ompaul I get a NUMBER of errors from trying that guide
[08:32] <nalioth> vbgunz_: copy your thunderbird profile from your windows and zip it up
[08:33] <vbgunz_> shedi, I understand I can't map to NTFS. I need to migrate from NTFS to Ubuntu ext3...
[08:33] <Aragorn_Guardian> i remember that put a script in /etc/init.d dont work after reboot.... what is the better way to do that.
[08:33] <BOB1234> ompaul - cannot install foobar location not found
[08:33] <Lars_G> vbgunz_: We understand, it's just you're too thick to realize people is trying to help you. yes?
[08:33] <nalioth> vbgunz_: unzip this folder into ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[08:33] <rnasklaved> how can I login my system in commandline (without gnome or other GUI)
[08:33] <funkyHat> i keep getting 'the query for ... failed.' 'the likely cause is that the beagle daemon isn't running.'
[08:33] <Aragorn_Guardian> I need put a firewall script in init.d
[08:33] <shedi> vbgunz_,  so, copy the damn thing :)
[08:33] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[08:33] <nalioth> vbgunz_: i dont know how else to explain it
[08:33] <funkyHat> how can i make the beagle daemon run all the time?
[08:33] <Jhair> Aragorn_Guardian: you need a link to the pertinent runlevel
[08:33] <Aragorn_Guardian> hum...
[08:33] <ompaul> BOB1234, paste them in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:33] <BOB1234> ompaul - and the modprobe command gives me another error - cannot acess permission denied
[08:34] <vbgunz_> nalioth, im sorry, I had so many problems with mozilla profiles and just really don't expect to simply drag and rop will be the answer *but* if it works that would just be amazing
[08:34] <BOB1234> I cant im typing this from another comp on WIndows xp
[08:34] <Jhair> Aragorn_Guardian: a link from the runlevel to the script on /etc/init.d no?
[08:34] <BOB1234> ompaul I cant typing this from another comp
[08:34] <Lars_G> HappyFool: http://pastebin.com/38417
[08:34] <Aragorn_Guardian> if is a different way, in reboot it clean my script, right...
[08:34] <HappyFool> paul_lost: read this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:34] <nalioth> vbgunz_: mozilla is open source
[08:34] <Lars_G> vbgunz_: I am seconds away from getting very very aggresive. for your safety and my own, I will place you on ignore.
[08:34] <HappyFool> paul_lost: there is no 'ndiswrapper' package
[08:34] <nalioth> vbgunz_: it is designed to work the same under many differnt OS's
[08:34] <Aragorn_Guardian> Jhair:  thanks...gonna put in the right place and make the link...
[08:35] <Aragorn_Guardian> Jhair:  in case of a firewall, what will be better runlevels to put it?
[08:35] <Aragorn_Guardian> 3 and 4, is that?
[08:35] <HappyFool> Lars_G: i presume that should be http://pastebin.com/384172 ?
[08:35] <paul_lost> thanks happy fool i am new to irc so i didnt realise i had private messages i am not too bright
[08:35] <paul_lost> lets see hoiw it goes
[08:35] <Jhair> Aragorn_Guardian: I am not quite sure sorry, I guess the runlevel the machine uses most of the time :)
[08:35] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks... gonna try
[08:35] <Lars_G> HappyFool: Yes sorry, I missed the last char.
[08:35] <HappyFool> paul_lost: no problem
[08:35] <vbgunz_> Lars_G you can do that *but* you might never understand what i am saying, I am not *stupid* *but* don't know how Linux will handle *finding* Windows paths in my Thunderbird profile, thats my fear...
[08:36] <crov> nalioth, i dont get anything when i write "apt-cache search centericq" only new prompt for command, and. how to enable "Universe" in repository...
[08:36] <ompaul> BOB1234, sorry, catch 22
[08:36] <BOB1234> ompaul whats catch 22
[08:36] <nalioth> vbgunz_: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[08:37] <Lars_G> crov: a) that means there is no match for that program in your current repositories. b) use synaptic and enable it under repositories, or edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the line that says "universe" at the end.
[08:37] <TiMiDo> hey people
[08:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell crov about sources
[08:37] <Lars_G> nalioth: He's still at it?
[08:37] <HappyFool> Lars_G: sorry, i don't get how this double mount thing works. my impression was the later mount would shadow the earlier one, but that is obviously not true if you can still run umount.
[08:37] <ompaul> BOB1234, a book, the theme is you can't leave the army unless your mad, only a sane person would try to leave the army
[08:37] <ompaul> BOB1234, so you don't get to leave
[08:37] <Jhair> Aragorn_Guardian: please note that there is the update-rc.d utility to put te links, take a look to its manpage
[08:37] <vbgunz_> ok, I'll try the drag and drop, *but* don't expect it to work, I hope you all understand I wasn't being thick headed...
[08:38] <Lars_G> HappyFool: I agree I tought it should shadow the previous mount.... but... I'll keep trying, otherwise, I'll reboot.
[08:38] <BOB1234> ompaul umm ok...well do u have any other ideas because im typingthe stuff on that page and having troubles
[08:38] <HappyFool> Lars_G: yeah, just reboot ;)
[08:38] <Shin_Gouki> Gwildor, chat?
[08:38] <Lars_G> HappyFool: nah, no fun in that
[08:38] <crov> Lars_G, thnx editing /etc/apt/sources.list is easy :))
[08:38] <BOB1234> ompaul I was able to get ndiswrapper...just not sure how to use it yet in the networking
[08:39] <Cryptid> nalioth, hxplayer is asking me the directory where the player should be installed [/home/melchey/HelixPlayer]  will this direcory do
[08:39] <Lars_G> HappyFool: I wonder what device it will write to if I perform a write op..... youch.
[08:39] <Lars_G> crov: As always, use caution when doing so. :)
[08:39] <ompaul> BOB1234, have a look at the message from ubotu it is step by step
[08:39] <Knowerrors> HappyFool: are any of the ubuntu repos available as iso downloads, like extras cds?
[08:39] <nalioth> Cryptid: the player can go anywhere, the plugins need to go where i told you earlier
[08:39] <Lars_G> crov: and be sure to uncomment the line beginnign with "deb" not the one with "deb-src"
[08:39] <HappyFool> Knowerrors: well, you can always mirror the repository
[08:39] <dallingham> Can anyone help with a touchpad problem?
[08:39] <HappyFool> Knowerrors: or download the DVD iso -- i think it has most of the 'main' repository
[08:39] <nalioth> Lars_G: deb-src are harmless, and sometimes beneficial
[08:40] <Cryptid> nalioth hxplayer got installed and it didnt ask me for the plugins stuff
[08:40] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, my USB prob seems hard!
[08:40] <Knowerrors> HappyFool: so dvd doesn't have universe/multiverse then?
[08:40] <Cryptid> nailoth what do i do now
[08:40] <BOB1234> ompaul - ...all ubotu told me a little bit about ndiswrapper then gave me that link
[08:40] <Lars_G> nalioth: I don't say they're harmless, but if he uncomments only the deb-src he will continue to have troubles, and wonder why.
[08:40] <nalioth> Cryptid: hang on
[08:40] <HappyFool> Knowerrors: um. i don't think so
[08:40] <Lars_G> nalioth: Sorry if I gave the impression they were dangerous.
[08:40] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, gwildor is trin hard still no result, but its nice to chat with him :)
[08:40] <cevizoglu> !tell dallingham about anyone
[08:40] <bluefoxicy> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16816118015  Anyone think this is any good?
[08:40] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, dont stress urself to much here in main channel :=)
[08:41] <bluefoxicy> I want a sub-$300 good quality raid 5 card with 4 sata
[08:41] <HappyFool> Knowerrors: i would check out apt-zip; maybe you can get the script to work on cygwin on windows (assuming you need to use windows on your fast connection)
[08:41] <bluefoxicy> linux windows BSD
[08:41] <Lars_G> !anyone
[08:41] <ubotu> it has been said that anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[08:41] <tarzeau> bluefoxicy: what about microkernels?
[08:41] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, hello?
[08:41] <Lars_G> hehehe
[08:41] <infernall_work> in a big tarball, is it possible to extract one specific directory through the cli tar command?
[08:41] <Shin_Gouki> Gwildor,  DCC
[08:41] <tarzeau> infernall_work: sure
[08:41] <Lars_G> cevizoglu: You guys should copy the "ask" factoid from javabot as well.
[08:41] <Knowerrors> HappyFool: I do need windows on the broadband comp, will read up on aptzip
[08:41] <infernall_work> tarzeau, i've been reading the cli help, but its not clear to me
[08:41] <cevizoglu> Lars_G, it's here
[08:41] <bluefoxicy> tarzeau:  *shrug*  I'm looking for something to put in my mid-level PCs
[08:42] <Lars_G> great
[08:42] <crov> Lars_G, why to use with caution (is it betther when install my package to comment), ok only deb not deb-src is uncommented
[08:42] <Lars_G> !ask
[08:42] <nalioth> Cryptid: i am sorry. but i'm lost on real player and it's codecs
[08:42] <tarzeau> infernall_work: a directory is a file
[08:42] <tarzeau> infernall_work: hint enough?
[08:42] <nalioth> Cryptid: i'm hopin the helix player works for you
[08:42] <tarzeau> bluefoxicy: debian?
[08:42] <bluefoxicy> tarzeau: I should be able to construct a PC with Athlon 64, 1G RAM, and 1.2TB available storage RAID-5 for under $1500, and sell it for $1500
[08:42] <dallingham> I cannot seem to turn off the tap to click with an Alps glidepoint.
[08:42] <infernall_work> tarzeau, -K ?
[08:42] <Lars_G> crov: With caution I mean: it's ok to uncomment deb-src too, just make sure you uncomment a source and not a comment, that you do not delete or comment your current sources, etc. general caution.
[08:42] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, i did
[08:42] <Gwildor> shadeofgrey, accept
[08:42] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, accept
[08:43] <bluefoxicy> tarzeau:  By 2007 I should be able to do Athlon 64 X2, 2G RAM, 1.2TB RAID-5 for under $1000, and sell it for $1000
[08:43] <Cryptid> nalioth, this is what i am getting what do i do for the symbolic code Copying Helix Player files...configure system-wide symbolic links? [Y/n] : ...Y..enter the prefix for symbolic links [/usr] : ..........................
[08:43] <tarzeau> bluefoxicy: i've got no idea, i built my computer out of spare parts and other cheap shit
[08:44] <nalioth> Cryptid: there ya go, the links to make your mozilla stuff work
[08:44] <Cryptid> nalioth ok i installed the player now i dosent open after i click on it
[08:44] <bluefoxicy> ell
[08:45] <Lars_G> HappyFool: It seems reboot will be the only option.
[08:45] <bluefoxicy> I'll just rig one up with a few drives
[08:45] <bluefoxicy> and put Gentoo on it
[08:45] <bluefoxicy> and rebuild 1000 times.
[08:45] <Shin_Gouki> Gwildor,  do u read me in dcc?
[08:45] <BOB1234> can someone tell me how to get ndiswrapper to detect my wireless connection
[08:45] <BOB1234> on hoary
[08:45] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, nope
[08:45] <HappyFool> Lars_G: it could be worse ;)
[08:45] <tarzeau> !seen liberty
[08:45] <ubotu> tarzeau: i haven't seen 'liberty'
[08:45] <tarzeau> crap wrong channel
[08:45] <Lars_G> HappyFool: It could've just failed. whine. lol
[08:45] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, i offered to you
[08:46] <nalioth> Cryptid: go surfing and click on a .ram link
[08:46] <crov> Lars_G, ok update apt-get update but still i can find centericq packages
[08:46] <Shin_Gouki> Gwildor,  let me offer k?
[08:46] <Cryptid> nalioth what happens if i say no to the symbolic code thing
[08:46] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, offer
[08:46] <nalioth> Cryptid: then you dont have any browser support
[08:47] <Cryptid> nalioth please gimme the directory to the mozilla plugin thing again
[08:47] <Shin_Gouki> Gwildor,  i think i did ofter is it pending on ur side?
[08:47] <lon3tree> Jhair
[08:47] <lon3tree> are you still there?
[08:47] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, offer again
[08:47] <nalioth> Cryptid: /usr/local/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[08:47] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, i havent gotten one yet
[08:47] <lon3tree> Jhair
[08:47] <Gwildor> Shin_Gouki, do this "/msg gwildor say something here"
[08:48] <BOB1234> i typed in ndiswrapper and ... it popped up a few rows of commands IDK wat2 do now plz help
[08:48] <ompaul> BOB1234, so you go through its steps
[08:48] <Gwildor> school jsut let out?
[08:48] <BOB1234> ompaul i Did
[08:48] <BOB1234> i said it no work
[08:48] <BOB1234> foobar.inf file not exist
[08:48] <infernall_work> tarzeau, im trying, but not sure i've got it.  I am using tar -jxpvf apache.tar.bz2 ./var/www/nameofdir
[08:49] <heartEye> I cannot get the Kanji learning program Kiten to run.  I can't get mozilla open to look for help :/
[08:49] <ompaul> BOB1234, that is supposed to be replaced with the windows driver for your card
[08:49] <nalioth> vbgunz: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[08:49] <ompaul> BOB1234, the *.inf if you will
[08:49] <BOB1234> ompaul and how the frizzle do I know what 2 replace foobar with
[08:50] <ompaul> BOB1234, its a windows driver - it will have its own *.inf
[08:50] <BOB1234> ompaul so how do I know that *.inf
[08:50] <Gwildor> BOB1234, it is a .inf file....the driver for your card is a .inf, you must find out what file that is
[08:50] <BOB1234> how
[08:50] <nalioth> BOB1234: look the inf in your windows network properties
[08:51] <HappyFool> or google for your network card
[08:51] <vbgunz> nalioth, you don't understand, you really don't, my question was so simple *but* you probably misunderstood it and now you telling me as soon as I log in to go to another channel? All I asked was what are the equivalent paths.. nothing to special or specific to Mozilla... I cannot transfer my entire profile because of a path problem... I am asking *but* everyone choose to deliberately misunderstand me on purpose or something
[08:51] <BOB1234> soI have to boot into windows :/
[08:51] <Cryptid> nalioth ok i am done with realplayer now i need help on transcode installation i need all the dependency list and trancode setupfile (i need trancode so that i can convert my existing .mpeg and .DAT file to .avi and iwas told that i can also change the resolution of the pic so that i will be able to play the files on my cell phone)
[08:51] <nalioth> vbgunz: read my flapping lips:
[08:51] <ompaul> BOB1234, sorry that is a windows question, I would search google for your type of wifi card drivers and put them on a media that your ubuntu machine can see move them into your home directory and fire away from there
[08:52] <nalioth> vbgunz: ~/.mozilla-thunderbird = C:/documents and settings/vbgunz/application data/mozilla-thunderbird/
[08:52] <ompaul> BOB1234, I am now going for a cup of tea - instructions
[08:52] <BOB1234> wha
[08:52] <HappyFool> ompaul: a brilliant idea! *me gets a cup of tea*
[08:52] <vbgunz> nalioth, thank you, something like that, there are *5* certain paths on Windows which I know I have to change over to *linux* specific paths, you understand now?
[08:53] <nalioth> vbgunz: search your windows partition for the soemcoiw.default in your /mozilla-thunderbird directory
[08:53] <nalioth> vbgunz: copy that eisudj.default directory into your linux ~/.mozilla-thunderbird directory
[08:54] <nalioth> vbgunz: start thunderbird. choose profile
[08:54] <vbgunz> I just did that *but* fear came true... Thunderbird is in a drunken state which leads me to believe it doesn't like the paths
[08:54] <vbgunz> with the -ProfileManager option
[08:55] <nalioth> vbgunz: type "mozilla-thunderbird-config" and choose your profile
[08:55] <vbgunz> ok
[08:57] <imc_> hi, I can't remember where the ms-ttcorefonts are - anyone remember?
[08:57] <paul_lost> ndiswrapper=lifesaver cheers everyone
[08:57] <nalioth> !info msttcorefonts
[08:57] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[08:57] <imc_> thanks nalioth
[08:57] <MaTaks> where can i get xmms?
[08:58] <nalioth> MaTaks: use synaptic
[08:58] <wef> whereis the sshd
[08:58] <MaTaks> its not on my package
[08:58] <crimsun> wef: openssh-server
[08:58] <vbgunz> nalioth, yup, no go, Thunderbird has nothing up but the main interface, menu bar, etc,... can you just walk me through 5 paths, this is how I move paths on Windows and I see it working the same way on Linux is possible, can you just take your time for 5 path equivalents?
[08:58] <crimsun> MaTaks: xmms is in main
[08:58] <vbgunz> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator = /home/vbgunz ?
[08:58] <wef> crimsun, yes
[08:59] <nalioth> vbgunz: yes
[08:59] <vbgunz> nalioth, thank you
[09:00] <vbgunz> C:\\Documents and Settings\\Administrator = //home//vbgunz ?
[09:00] <vbgunz> C:\\Documents and Settings\\Administrator = /home/vbgunz ?
[09:00] <MaTaks> ok i found it
[09:00] <MaTaks> thnx man
[09:00] <vbgunz> just three more, major thanks
[09:02] <Cryptid> while reloding the synaptic repos it shows 3 status it either done failed or HIT wat does HIT mean
[09:02] <vbgunz> would C:\\Documents and Settings\\Administrator equate to /home/vbgunz OR //home//vbgunz (two slashes OR unnecessary?)
[09:03] <nalioth> vbgunz: only one slash
[09:03] <vbgunz> nalioth, thank you
[09:04] <lJlolel> yea, so i installed XFCE and now that works
[09:04] <vbgunz> nalioth, in matter of fact it's pretty much done, I hope it works, will let you know
[09:04] <lJlolel> but when i try to login to gnome, i just see a brown background and nothing else
[09:04] <lJlolel> the mouse is there too
[09:05] <vbgunz> nalioth, just one more question... backslashes do not work on Linux correct?
[09:05] <benplaut> vbgunz: \\\\\\
[09:05] <benplaut> :)
[09:06] <zoot_> hi - anyone here with extensive software raid experience? i've no experience with it and would like to install breezy preview on one disk and then migrate to a 2 disk setup when the second disk is delivered. more info later... any takers?
[09:06] <HappyFool> vbgunz: well, not for separating directories. backslashes are usually used to mark special characters in strings
[09:06] <MaTaks> i have now my xmms but it wont play any mp3 file
[09:06] <MaTaks> why is that
[09:06] <Kris_k> Problem (X-Server is not starting up with fresh install, xorg.0.log error No Screens Found) I have ubuntu 32 bit disc with a MSI k8n Neo4 AMD 3200 64 bit x800 Ati card
[09:06] <HappyFool> MaTaks: set the output plugin to eSound
[09:06] <vbgunz> thanks I hope Mozilla makes migrating profiles easier in the future..., thanks!
[09:07] <wef> THANKS
[09:07] <Secreth`X> does it matters if a partition is NTFS for installing ubuntu?
[09:07] <MaTaks> how?
[09:08] <lJlolel> what is the command for a root terminal?
[09:08] <Vegar> Secreth`X: no, ubuntu will reformat it for you
[09:08] <Secreth`X> Vegar: thanks
[09:08] <HappyFool> MaTaks: stand by
[09:08] <ploum> Hello
[09:08] <ploum> does falconseye work for you ?
[09:08] <ploum> I have only a black screen
[09:08] <ploum> I must kill -9 it
[09:08] <HappyFool> MaTaks: right-click on the xmms window, choose options -> preferences in the menu that appears
[09:08] <MaTaks> ok
[09:09] <MaTaks> wait coz it freeze
[09:09] <HappyFool> MaTaks: the output plugin should be on the window that appears
[09:09] <pepsi> how do i get the parallel port to show up in /dev?
[09:09] <pepsi> parport0 i want
[09:09] <pepsi> ubotu, parallel
[09:10] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, pepsi
[09:10] <pepsi> :(
[09:10] <zoot_> ahem, any software RAID gurus online?
[09:10] <HappyFool> pepsi: make 'sudo MAKEDEV parport' ?
[09:10] <HappyFool> pepsi: that is, maybe 'sudo MAKEDEV parport'
[09:10] <HappyFool> pepsi: in /dev
[09:11] <Kris_k> Problem (X-Server is not starting up with fresh install, xorg.0.log error No Screens Found) I have ubuntu 32 bit disc with a MSI k8n Neo4 AMD 3200 64 bit x800 Ati card
[09:11] <HappyFool> zoot_: one of the raid packages had a nice debian howto for software raid
[09:12] <pepsi> HappyFool, will that survive a reboot?
[09:12] <HappyFool> zoot_: ah, in mdadm
[09:12] <HappyFool> pepsi: err, i don't know
[09:12] <HappyFool> pepsi: i haven't got my head around ubuntu's device creation
[09:12] <zoot_> HappyFool: thx, any clue which raid pkg? .. aha, u answered :)
[09:12] <mwe> sudo echo foo > bar doesn't work. how do I work around that?
[09:12] <HappyFool> pepsi: if not, you can add 'MAKEDEV parport' in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[09:13] <HappyFool> mwe: i think 'echo foo|sudo tee bar' might work
[09:13] <mwe> thanks
[09:13] <lJlolel> All of the gnome programs are screwed up
[09:13] <lJlolel> I'm forced to use XFCE, but none of the gnome programs work anyway
[09:13] <pepsi> HappyFool, ok.. i might.. seems like every other time i update my system, the parport breaks
[09:13] <HappyFool> zoot_: in /usr/share/doc/mdadm/rootraiddoc.97.html -- i've read it, but haven't used it (!). I hope it helps
[09:14] <pepsi> HappyFool, any idea how i can get my 4-port serial card to show up as ttyS2..ttyS5?.. right now it uses ttyS14, 15, 44, and 45
[09:14] <pepsi> :)
[09:14] <zoot_> HappFool: thx
[09:15] <HappyFool> pepsi: um. you can use the 'mknod' command to make arbitrary filenames map to specific devices (devices are associated with major,minor number pairs)
[09:16] <Knorrie> does anyone have experience using xdf formatted floppies with dosemu?
[09:16] <Knorrie> i'm trying to install pc dos 7 :)
[09:16] <zoot_> HappyFool: haven't installed ubuntu yet, but found it on https://alioth.debian.org/projects/rootraiddoc/ - time to start reading :)
[09:17] <HappyFool> pepsi: read 'man mknod' and maybe some of the linux kernel docs. i think the hotplug system might help you too ('man hotplug'), but i'm not sure
[09:17] <_jason> If I have java 1.5.0_04 installed and would like to install 1.5.0_05.  Does anyone know if I need to remove the old java package first?
[09:17] <pepsi> HappyFool, yeah, i have to figure something out.. every time i boot up i have to use setserial to setup the serial ports correctly and then make /dev/COM1..6 since the ttyS numbering is wierd
[09:18] <pepsi> blah :)
[09:18] <HappyFool> pepsi: youn can't you adapt your software to use the linux (or ubuntu) naming?
[09:18] <pepsi> i frequently type them by hand
[09:19] <HappyFool> ah
[09:19] <daejavu> hi to all ..
[09:19] <pepsi> so haveing them numbered in order would be nice
[09:19] <pepsi> hard to remember that ttyS15 is #3 :)
[09:19] <pepsi> er thats #4.. see?
[09:19] <tristanmike> lol
[09:19] <daejavu> has anyone built CEDEGA  from the cvs (free)  file ?
[09:19] <HappyFool> pepsi: yeah, fair enough
[09:20] <HappyFool> pepsi: why do you need so many com ports?
[09:20] <pepsi> embedded development
[09:20] <GoClick> My install seems to have randomly forgotten what resolution to run, it's running 640, but that's not in the xorg.conf file, I've rebooted etc is there a way I can get it to re-poll the screen and fix this?
[09:20] <pepsi> debugging, programming
[09:20] <daejavu> has anyone built CEDEGA  from the cvs (free)  file ?
[09:21] <HappyFool> pepsi: cool. played with real-time linux at all?
[09:21] <pepsi> nope
[09:21] <tarzeau> daejavu: yes
[09:21] <lJlolel> GoClick, ctrl_alt_backspace?
[09:21] <Kris_k> Problem (X-Server is not starting up with fresh install, xorg.0.log error No Screens Found) I have ubuntu 32 bit disc with a MSI k8n Neo4 AMD 3200 64 bit x800 Ati card
[09:22] <din> GoClick: ctrl + alt + numpad +or- should change the res
[09:22] <HappyFool> GoClick: maybe 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:22] <tristanmike> Kris_k, you need the AMD 64 bit edition
[09:22] <GDorn> why, oh, why, did I upgrade to the k7 kernel?  and why, oh why, didn't the dependencies of apt-get fail to realize this and just keep installing incompatible packages (for -386) instead of the right ones?
[09:22] <GoClick> din it's not seeing the config or something
[09:22] <Kris_k> tristanmike i tried both the 64 bit and the 32 bit they both say the same thing
[09:22] <GoClick> lJlolel I've done that, rebooted too
[09:22] <GDorn> (er, they _did_ fail to realize this.  apt-get installed old, incorrect kernel modules, and I'm still cleaning up after it.)
[09:23] <lJlolel> oh wait, i just had that problem i didnt' know what was wrong, I just put in a different video card
[09:23] <lJlolel> and reconfigured again
[09:23] <HappyFool> GDorn: did you install 'linux-k7' or something else?
[09:23] <Cryptid> nalioth ok i am done with realplayer now i need help on transcode installation i need all the dependency list and trancode setupfile (i need trancode so that i can convert my existing .mpeg and .DAT file to .avi and iwas told that i can also change the resolution of the pic so that i will be able to play the files on my cell phone)
[09:23] <GDorn> happyfool:  I'm pretty sure I installed linux-k7.  it was last night, and it's a little hazy with all the frustration and rage I was feeling at the time.
[09:24] <HappyFool> GDorn: heh. try 'dpkg -l linux-k7' -- should tell you. anyway, that should create dependencies for the appropriate packages (i.e., linux-image-k7 and linux-restricted-modules-k7)
[09:25] <HappyFool> GDorn: maybe 'aptitude purge linux-386' or something similar to remove the old kernel ?
[09:25] <misterdiff> man i need help. i'm having so much trouble installing the ubuntu base system
[09:25] <lJlolel> Okay, Gnome and all gnome programs are fucked up and dont run on my computer, how do i fix this?
[09:25] <misterdiff> i have an amd 64 x2 and the amd64 install cd doesn't recognize a kernel for it
[09:25] <GDorn> happyfool:  ah, that would have been helpful last night.  it still may be the thing I need to do to get sound working.  I mostly spent the evening trying to get nvidia.ko wedged into the kernel properly.
[09:25] <lJlolel> running breezy preview release
[09:26] <GDorn> happyfool:  actually, rm -rf did the purging for me...  :)
[09:26] <HappyFool> GDorn: hmm. i'm still running -386 on my athlon ;) i'm not brave enough to upgrade
[09:26] <misterdiff> if i run the install cd of the x86 version, will it  actually install?
[09:26] <ScatterBrain> Anyone having trouble with Firefox 1.0.7??  I've had it lock my machine up twice today.
[09:26] <benplaut> anyone know how to change the usplash theme?
[09:26] <tristanmike> Kris_k, can you get to a command prompt?
[09:26] <daejavu> has anyone built CEDEGA  from the cvs (free)  file ?
[09:26] <GDorn> happyfool:  well, everything screwed up badly when I went from hoary to breezy anyway, so I figured, why not?
[09:27] <gratuit> ok, I just changed from debian to ubuntu, and I have a .evolution file in my home directory from my old install, but every time I start evolution, I get the first start wizard, is there any way I can make it just use the old settings I had before?