[07:12] <namElEz> so i cant get this thing to install properly?
[07:12] <adriyel__> moomooboy, its called bloat. Fedora literally has 6 apps for one task half the time
[07:12] <h08817> spekkie: like what?
[07:12] <moomooboy> oh i see
[07:12] <gratuit> I just installed breezy, and I'm having trouble running aterm I get the error "aterm: can't load color "Black", colorID = 0, (29)" and though xterm runs, I do get the errors xterm: Cannot allocate color magenta
[07:12] <gratuit> xterm: Cannot allocate color green
[07:12] <gratuit> xterm: Cannot allocate color black
[07:12] <gratuit> xterm: Cannot allocate color red3
[07:12] <monkey89> so do we, but in the repositories
[07:12] <Tortel> ok, how do i install identd? ( http://www.fukt.bth.se/~per/identd/ ) I need it to connect to irc.quakenet.org
[07:12] <moomooboy> thank you ^^
[07:12] <moomooboy> i guess ill be seeking a lot of help from you guys ^^.. since im new to linux
[07:12] <adriyel__> moomooboy, Ubuntu takes a different approach in that, it decides what is probably best, most of the time, thats correct for the majority
[07:12] <moomooboy> any books you guys can recommend me to get me started :D
[07:12] <adriyel__> I hate bloat
[07:12] <gratuit> any ideas?
[07:13] <problematic> thanks adriyel :)
[07:13] <saggytits> :( i cant install ubuntu .. blah
[07:13] <adriyel__> yeah, its called the Internet moomooboy
[07:13] <spekkie> h08817, like I just installed on this box and can't get my mono env up to speed cuz of Ignored repositories
[07:13] <adriyel__>  :P
[07:13] <moomooboy> well the reason im about to install ubuntu is because its the ONLY LINux i found that works with my WIRELESS card ! ^^
[07:13] <h08817> hmm i never had any problems with repos
[07:13] <namElEz> where is ubuntu forum?
[07:13] <moomooboy> :P thanks for that adriyel :P
[07:13] <monkey89> moomooboy, what card?
[07:13] <namElEz> oh i found
[07:13] <reagent> monkey89: ftp://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch05s01.html section 5.1.2 is closest to what I want to do
[07:13] <moomooboy> hmm gotta check its on my laptop
[07:14] <problematic> i tried veryfying the installation for jre but it still won't work
[07:14] <adriyel__> moomooboy, heh, I like Ubuntu's hardware support :). no seriously, use google all the time, I do
[07:14] <moomooboy> thats why i was happy when sound works.. + wireless card works
[07:14] <saggytits> anyone had the problem that when you hit enter to install it .. it goes through the loading and then just turns black
[07:14] <adriyel__> moomooboy, here's a bash tutorial you'll want to read
[07:14] <monkey89> reagent, yeah, thats netboot
[07:14] <monkey89> i guess
[07:14] <adriyel__> http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linuxcommand.org/lts0060.html
[07:14] <spekkie> h08817, http://rafb.net/paste/results/gnoldm58.html
[07:14] <kevin06> I have a question about GIMP, and the channel is dead. How do I invert balck to white and vice versa. Tutorials say go to Image -> Color- Invert, but I don't have a Color sub-menu
[07:14] <problematic> i didn't receive any error message upon the installation of the jre
[07:14] <reagent> monkey89: no that's boot from a kernel and initrd which is on the harddisk
[07:14] <moomooboy> well i will take a look @ that..
[07:14] <moomooboy> i only did a fundamental class.. for linux cli
[07:15] <moomooboy> so i dont even know how to install a software properly -.-...
[07:15] <Determinist> i gotta write some script to turn backports on and off from sources.list :D
[07:15] <adriyel__> Ubuntu got my SATA drive, my sound, my nvidia-glx/6800GT, and my network all working out of the box. and my hardware is "exotic" :)
[07:15] <moomooboy> but im welling to learn!.. cause linux is DA FUTURE!
[07:15] <medamaybe> is it me, or is xmms unstable as hell?
[07:15] <Determinist> moomooboy, got that right mister.
[07:15] <lazlofruvous> i'm sysadmin of a lab at swarthmore college... we're looking at using ubuntu for our client machines, but wondering what the best automatic install/update system is? previously we've used FAI/Debian Sarge, is there an FAI for Ubuntu?
[07:15] <adriyel__> moomooboy, installing software is easy with Ubuntu, just use synaptic. Heh, some form of Unix is the future, not necessarily Linux. We'll see if Linux can get its act together on the desktop, although Ubuntu is helping that greatly
[07:16] <_frank_> Determinist: I just use synaptics to turn repos on and off
[07:16] <adriyel__> I don't use XMMS anymore, I use Beep-Media-Player, which is a fork of XMMS
[07:16] <adriyel__> XMMS isn't developed or maintained anymore moomooboy
[07:16] <I_C_WIENER> medamaybe, its yoi
[07:16] <Determinist> _frank_, ummm, you delete them from the repo list? or is there some enable/disable command i'm missing here?
[07:16] <adriyel__> sudo apt-get install beep-media-player
[07:16] <moomooboy> yeh i agree on that.. im quite suprised on how easy ubuntu is..
[07:16] <adriyel__> moomooboy, my first Linux distro was Slackware...lol.
[07:16] <adriyel__> I don't wanna hear a damn complaint about synaptic, *laughs*
[07:17] <Determinist> adriyel__, poor you :)
[07:17] <moomooboy> adriyel .. how do i install codecs on ubuntu??
[07:17] <medamaybe> "E: Couldn't find package beep-media-player"  ?
[07:17] <monkey89> moomooboy, depends on the app
[07:17] <adriyel__> Determinist, I still like Slackware, thank you very much, due in no small part to slapt-get
[07:17] <adriyel__> moomooboy, get the gstreamer plugins
[07:17] <_frank_> Determinist: click show disabled software sources in the repositories settings
[07:17] <monkey89> for totem/rhythmbox, gstreamer0.8-whatever
[07:17] <Determinist> _frank_, thanks
[07:17] <sjg> !restrictedformats
[07:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:17] <adriyel__> moomooboy, search for gstreamer and just install everything that looks related
[07:17] <moomooboy> how about i come in after i install ubuntu now ^^
[07:17] <sjg> moomooboy, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:17] <_frank_> Determinist: then you can check/uncheck them
[07:17] <adriyel__> use xChat
[07:17] <moomooboy> ill come back and ask the same questions in about 1hr ^^..
[07:17] <adriyel__> hello sjg
[07:17] <sjg> 'lo adriyel__
[07:17] <openBack> is there a way to remove one of the default packages without apt or synaptic trying to uninstall ubuntu-base?
[07:18] <moomooboy> beeriteback :)
[07:18] <vajid> yelo
[07:18] <adriyel__> openBack, apt-get remove?
[07:18] <Xorlev> Okay, I'm trying to mount my NTFS drive on bootup, but it says "Special device /dev/sda1 not found". Its a SATA drive, which leads me to believe I need to compile SCSI device support into the kernel, not just a module.
[07:18] <mz2> is anybody else having problems with ati framebuffer & usplash?
[07:18] <Determinist> _frank_, yes, i wasnt aware of these options, thank you sir
[07:18] <monkey89> openBack, i dont think so...
[07:18] <Xorlev> Suggestions/comments?
[07:19] <adriyel__> Xorlev, no you don't, I was using SATA right from the install
[07:19] <prower> I stopped using Slackware a while ago, there were never enough pre-compiled packages for stuff available :> Unless you used Linuxpackages, but it's hard to verify their security
[07:19] <adriyel__> Xorlev, did it detect your windows install from the Ubuntu install? also try mount JUST /dev/sda, not with a #
[07:19] <monkey89> openBack, get smeg and hide it from the menu :)
[07:19] <_frank_> Determinist: it took me a long time to find that. before I would always edit sources.list manually
[07:19] <vajid> wher can i get game torrents?
[07:19] <adriyel__> prower, I compiled from source frequently
[07:19] <_frank_> vajid: wrong channel!
[07:19] <monkey89> vajid, keep it legal in here.
[07:19] <vajid> sowwie
[07:19] <Xorlev> adriyel__: Once my system is booted a mount -a works fine, its just on boot that it doesn't work.
[07:19] <Determinist> _frank_, same here, i dont feel like having the update manager install all sorts of packages i have no use for :)
[07:20] <openBack> monkey89: yeah, I did that for some, but it's just not right! :P
[07:20] <monkey89> openBack, hmm
[07:20] <adriyel__> *tilts head @ Xorlev* huh?
[07:20] <jepeltw> Anyone here use NDISwrapper?
[07:20] <monkey89> openBack, what if you install ubuntu-minimal instead of ubuntu-desktop
[07:20] <monkey89> (i dont know at all, but maybe)
[07:20] <prower> adriyel__: I did as well, but it's more complicated for some packages than others
[07:20] <adriyel__> how do you mean @ boot it doesn't work
[07:20] <namElEz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=319689#post319689    all
[07:20] <Tortel> how do i install pidentd? (http://www.lysator.liu.se/~pen/pidentd/)
[07:20] <adriyel__> prower, which is why I installed portage on Slackware...lol.
[07:20] <openBack> monkey89: you know, that would probably be best, but my system's already installed
[07:20] <monkey89> openBack, so?
[07:20] <Whistler> is it safe to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[07:21] <adriyel__> Whistler, yeah, but it'll go to ugly defaults.
[07:21] <Whistler> i heard that this is a dummy package
[07:21] <adriyel__> I like the Ubuntu desktop.
[07:21] <monkey89> its safe, but it apparently makes upgrades harder
[07:21] <Xorlev> adriyel__: When its booting up (initial /etc/fstab load) it says Special device not found: /dev/sda1. Then once I'm booted up fully (console, Konsole, etc.) I can remount and it mounts it just fine.
[07:21] <adriyel__> monkey89, yeahs.
[07:21] <monkey89> adriyel__, isn't artwork stored in another package
[07:21] <Whistler> oh so i better leave it alone
[07:21] <monkey89> (ubuntu-artwork)
[07:21] <adriyel__> Xorlev, so whats the problem? if it works, leave it be.
[07:21] <openBack> monkey89: but reconfiguring things is a hassle
[07:21] <adriyel__> monkey89, meh? I thought the package included theming and such
[07:21] <monkey89> your call
[07:22] <monkey89> adriyel__, no, i tihnk its just a meta package referring to everything that comes on the gnome desk
[07:22] <adriyel__> *shrugs* oh well
[07:22] <Xorlev> adriyel__: I'd rather not have to remount every time I reboot to get it to mount.
[07:22] <Xorlev> Whistler: I went through Synaptic and left the libraries and Synaptic
[07:22] <openBack> monkey89: I have yet to find an easy way to reinstall a whole system :'/
[07:22] <Xorlev> I removed everything else
[07:22] <adriyel__> Xorlev, write an entry into the cron daemon
[07:22] <qt2> so... i can use normal debian apt servers right? they're jsut not supported?
[07:22] <adriyel__> Xorlev, have it mount after you've logged in
[07:22] <adriyel__> since fstab is being gay...
[07:22] <Xorlev> adriyel__: I could do that.
[07:22] <adriyel__> *nods* indeed you could.
[07:22] <_frank_> qt2: no installing debian packages is asking for trouble
[07:23] <problematic> how do i remove the libflash plugin in my firefox directory?
[07:23] <Whistler> Xorlev so i can remove it safely?
[07:23] <qt2> _frank_, ah, okay... i guess?
[07:23] <adriyel__> for what its worth, fstab has given me mouth about that stuff before, but I have a set up where /dev/sda1 is windows, /dev/sda2 is Ubuntu, fstab mounts /dev/sda1 to /crappyos
[07:23] <sjg> lol adjacent
[07:23] <_frank_> qt2: If something is not in the ubuntu repositories, its better to compile from source
[07:23] <adriyel__> problematic, mv ~/.mozilla/firefox/libflash-mozplugin.so ~
[07:23] <sjg> err, lol adriyel__
[07:23] <adriyel__> thats one way
[07:23] <adriyel__> sjg, you like my mountpoint for win32 eh?
[07:24] <monkey89> ew, dont give it a / directory, stuff it in /media
[07:24] <Xorlev> Whister: I removed GNOME stuff manually (in Synaptic to see that it didn't kill anything I needed), but don't remove ubuntu-desktop
[07:24] <problematic> thanks adriyel :)
[07:24] <adriyel__> np
[07:24] <sjg> adriyel__, Thats how mine is too lol
[07:24] <adriyel__> lol.
[07:24] <adriyel__> I gave it a root directory because I access it frequently
[07:24] <Tortel>  how do i install pidentd? (http://www.lysator.liu.se/~pen/pidentd/)
[07:24] <adriyel__> and I wasn't gonna toss it in home
[07:24] <adriyel__> sudo apt-get install package?
[07:24] <Doonz> 6 episode onto 1 dvdr
[07:24] <problematic> adriyel... it says no such file or directory :P
[07:24] <monkey89> yeah, but if you manage to fix auto mounting in hoary, putting it in /media has it show up on your desktop automagically
[07:24] <_frank_> adriyel__: the "proper" place to put it is /media
[07:24] <sjg> mines just /mnt/microsloth
[07:24] <adriyel__> problematic, browse to ~/.mozilla/firefox
[07:25] <adriyel__> _frank_, "Proper" have never been my thing :)
[07:25] <adriyel__> problematic, I prolly typo'ed it or something, just move the plugin out of there
[07:25] <adriyel__> _frank_, I installed portage on Slack, is that an indication?
[07:25] <monkey89> hehe
[07:26] <_frank_> adriyel__: I guess... ;-)
[07:26] <adriyel__> someone needs to develop a secure version of IRC
[07:26] <adriyel__> encrypted with IP masking
[07:26] <monkey89> ip masking occurs on most servers
[07:26] <monkey89> and other networks already support https
[07:26] <monkey89> not freenode now thouh
[07:26] <sjg> That would be more of a ircd problem adriyel__
[07:26] <monkey89> er, not https, ssl
[07:26] <adriyel__> monkey89, not on some of the ones I go into.
[07:27] <sjg> And dancer ircd can do that afaik
[07:27] <adriyel__> sjg, why aren't proper defaults set that way then?
[07:27] <monkey89> true, but its a problem with their server, not IRC :)
[07:27] <adriyel__> seriously.
[07:27] <_frank_> adriyel__: on freenet, I think there is a super slow, super secure IRC
[07:27] <adriyel__> _frank_, note to self: new meeting place for clients
[07:27] <sjg> adriyel__, This network is setup how they want :P
[07:27] <adriyel__> sjg, I know, but its annoying nonetheless
[07:28] <adriyel__> lol, I tricked my dad into thinking I generated a hash of the Microsoft Office 2003 Corporate edition .iso
[07:28] <Determinist> any of you remmember where i can get that script that adds fat32 partitions to fstab?
[07:28] <Seveas> Determinist: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[07:28] <adriyel__> he was being paranoid and I wanted him to shut up, so I fed him some bullshit about it
[07:28] <Determinist> Seveas, i'm gonna stop saying thanks soon :P
[07:29] <problematic> the only libflash thing i was able to find was the one used by openoffice
[07:29] <problematic> no other libflash thingy in there :P
[07:29] <Doonz> anyone know why when i try to open the file manager it says starting then never opens?
[07:29] <adriyel__> Seveas, why is that script necessary? my /dev/sda1 is mounted automagically by FSTAB with no probs, I don't understand why everyone is ahving difficulty... :|
[07:29] <adriyel__> has anyone had experience with SATA-RAID on Ubuntu? does it work ok?
[07:29] <adriyel__> I'm gonna upgrade to a RAID rig soon
[07:30] <sjg> Ill be doing it soon Adr.. :P
[07:30] <adriyel__> me knoez it.
[07:30] <adriyel__>  :)
[07:30] <sjg> Like in a few hours, the gear came in this morning :P
[07:30] <adriyel__> yours will prolly be more comprehensive though
[07:30] <adriyel__> oh, SWEET
[07:30] <adriyel__> nice shipping :)
[07:30] <sjg> Overnight :P
[07:30] <adriyel__> no kiddin.
[07:30] <adriyel__> I get free 2nd day of zipzoomfly...I like ZZF...
[07:30] <adriyel__> from
[07:31] <Seveas> adriyel__, only removable drives are autom-mounted
[07:31] <dalamar> how can i prevent the cd/dvd writer window opening when I insert a blank dvd/cd?
[07:31] <adriyel__> Seveas, it asked me about my windows partition on the ubuntu install, and it made an FSTAB entry
[07:31] <adriyel__> its worked since, again, whats the issue with people's win32 installs here?
[07:32] <adriyel__> oh THATS interesting.
[07:32] <sjg> ?
[07:32] <adriyel__> how is that party getting mounted?
[07:32] <adriyel__> theres no fstab entry
[07:33] <adriyel__> yet its getting mounte
[07:33] <adriyel__> mounted at boot
[07:33] <carthik> HI all, how can I find out what wireless card I have without open my pc?
[07:33] <adriyel__> wtf?
[07:33] <carthik> opening my pc, that is
[07:33] <Tortel> how do you make it so you can modify /etc/
[07:33] <adriyel__> sudo passwd
[07:33] <adriyel__> su
[07:33] <adriyel__> ?
[07:34] <sjg> or, sudo su
[07:34] <sjg> :P
[07:34] <tsw> sudo -s
[07:34] <ycomb> sudo -s from a shell ...
[07:34] <adriyel__> lol @ sjg
[07:34] <pusling> what kde version is in breezy right now ?
[07:34] <_frank_> carthik: lspci
[07:34] <adriyel__> pseudo-root. yay.s
[07:35] <adriyel__> isn't sudo -s equivalent to sudo $SHELL ?
[07:35] <adriyel__> (insert shell of choice)
[07:35] <adriyel__> breezy has a kubuntu version out?
[07:36] <sjg> I guess sudo -s works, im just still used to using sudo su
[07:36] <carthik> _frank_, thanks: that says, among other things "Network Controller: RALink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card (rev 01) ---- does that seem to be the one?
[07:36] <Tortel> what do i do after that?
[07:36] <adriyel__> sudo /bin/bash sudo -s sudo su all do the same thing (with a slight diff with su)
[07:36] <Tortel> i dont know much about commands
[07:36] <adriyel__> http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linuxcommand.org/lts0060.html now you do
[07:36] <adriyel__> have at it son.
[07:36] <shamus> _frank_, I added backports to my repositories, but still no azureus
[07:36] <shamus> and i ran apt-get update
[07:37] <adriyel__> ahhh, thats how you print from console.
[07:37] <adriyel__> sweet.
[07:37] <adriyel__> nano > emacs > vi
[07:37] <adriyel__>  :P
[07:37] <sjg> wrong
[07:38] <adriyel__> indeed.
[07:38] <sjg> vi >  .
[07:38] <adriyel__> pico && nano > *.*
[07:38] <adriyel__> printf("pwnt");
[07:38] <adriyel__>  :P
[07:38] <sjg> *rolls eyes*
[07:38] <adriyel__> I like my starry eyes. :D
[07:38] <adriyel__> in all seriousness, I am curious about vi
[07:38] <adriyel__> why use it?
[07:39] <sjg> More that, im just used to it
[07:39] <adriyel__> (not to start a holy war)
[07:39] <Tortel> damnit, is there a simple way to copy a file into /ect/?
[07:39] <adriyel__> lol, pico/nano just seem more intuitive
[07:39] <sjg> used pico a little, but mostly im just used to vi
[07:39] <sjg> and vi is powerful :P
[07:39] <adriyel__> sudo cp /filetobecopied /etc
[07:39] <deprave> vi annoys me
[07:39] <deprave> i don't know why
[07:39] <franco64> tortel why not use the cp command
[07:39] <adriyel__> define "powerful"...can it make gcc compile faster?
[07:39] <adriyel__> deprave, it annoys me too, its ok.   HUH? SO RUN 10 MILES! (said in sergeant voice)
[07:46] <adriyel__> Xinex, do not tell me you came here with a win32 question
[07:46] <sjg> lol
[07:46] <Xinex> no
[07:46] <Gorth> how can I disable services? Isn't there a graphical tool for that?
[07:46] <dalamar> 'explorer'?
[07:46] <dalamar> shun
[07:46] <Cody_> Hello
[07:46] <adriyel__> Xinex, what is explorer then?
[07:46] <Xinex> It happened since I got ubuntu up
[07:46] <Cody_> I was hoping someone could help me setup a samba share.
[07:46] <adriyel__> sudo apt-get install samba
[07:46] <adriyel__> I figured I'd get that out of the way, to begin with
[07:46] <ubuntuhacker> like i want other computers to access internet from the ubuntu box
[07:46] <deprave> Xinex : are you trying to write to ntfs via a unix box?
[07:47] <Xinex> no
[07:47] <Xinex> I'm trying to view the workgroup of computers
[07:47] <adriyel__> Gorth, ps -aux will list processes... use kill to DESTROY THEM! BWAHAHAHAHAHA
[07:47] <Xinex> to view the ubuntu box
[07:47] <qt2> Gorth? In ubuntu? that'd be BUM(Boot-Up Manager)
[07:47] <deprave> then ubuntu isn't relivent to your MS problem, your problem is MS itself.
[07:47] <sjg> adriyel__, hrm, kill -9 -1
[07:47] <Gorth> adriyel__: sorry, i mean the bootup services in /etc/init.d
[07:47] <deprave> define "view"
[07:47] <Cody_> I installed samba via apt-get, I just am n ot sure how to setup what folders are shared (setup a share) and which uesrs can access it?
[07:47] <Gorth> qt2: ahh, thanks man :)
[07:47] <adriyel__> Gorth, just move them out of there
[07:48] <adriyel__> like, mv /etc/init.d/service /dev/null
[07:48] <snpz> anybody?
[07:48] <adriyel__> *snickers*
[07:48] <snpz> i try to compile valknut from source, but i have some kind of error
[07:48] <Xinex> I mean see the ubuntu computer on the network then read/write files to and from a few win boxes to *nix
[07:48] <adriyel__> I'm a bad person sjg.
[07:48] <ReleaseX> apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 returns couln't find package, what's the problem?
[07:48] <adriyel__> ReleaseX search for JRE on synaptic
[07:48] <Coyctecm> get java from sun microsystems site
[07:48] <adriyel__> meh @ Coyctecm might not be a wise choice.
[07:48] <Gorth> qt2: you wouldn't know another alternative that can be run from the console?
[07:48] <adriyel__> its better if he gets it from an Ubuntu repository
[07:49] <adriyel__> Gorth, use the move command!
[07:49] <sjg> adriyel__, Ive used both the java out of rep and off the sun site
[07:49] <snpz> maybe there is allready precompiled valknut package
[07:49] <adriyel__> Gorth, just move the services into a back up folder
[07:49] <sjg> both work fine
[07:49] <dalamar> it was broke in the repos last few days
[07:49] <adriyel__> sjg, kkz, makin sure, I've had issues with mixin packages of various kinds before (EEK, PORTAGE EATS YOUR SOUL IF YOU DO THAT)
[07:49] <snpz> ?
[07:49] <sjg> lol
[07:49] <adriyel__> lol
[07:49] <adriyel__> seriously, it does.
[07:49] <Xinex> would vnc being on mess up the network?
[07:49] <Gorth> adriyel__: ok
[07:50] <qt2> Gorth, err, *shrug* all i know is that BUM just is a graphical interface that edits a few files, so just find out what those files are ;)
[07:50] <sjg> Xinex, no
[07:50] <adriyel__> qt2, where is this magical interface?
[07:50] <qt2> as least that's what i've been lead to believe. ;)
[07:50] <Coyctecm> anyone knows any organisations using ubuntu?e.g universitys? or is this just distro for newbies to learn how to use linux?
[07:50] <adriyel__> I see nothing in gnome
[07:50] <Gorth> qt2: i know there is one but I just can't remember its name ;)
[07:50] <adriyel__> edubuntu is for educational facilities
[07:50] <qt2> adriyel__, System > Administration > Boot-Up Manager?
[07:50] <adriyel__> everyone can use ubuntu
[07:50] <adriyel__> I'm an intermediate user of Linux, and I use it
[07:51] <sjg> Coyctecm, My former university uses ubuntu in their open computer labs ><
[07:51] <adriyel__> (does a stage 1 tarball of gentoo successfully installed qualify me for level 10 dwarf?)
[07:51] <monkey89> haha
[07:51] <sjg> adriyel__, level 11
[07:51] <Coyctecm> I'm am not newbie at all..using linux since 1996...
[07:51] <monkey89> all it is is reading commands and entering them
[07:51] <adriyel__> SWEET!
[07:51] <adriyel__> I'm a Linux advanced user then
[07:51] <franco64> i have to say that ubuntu is great
[07:51] <adriyel__> and I use ubuntu
[07:51] <Coyctecm> but I really like ubuntu..it's great.
[07:51] <franco64> for any person that want'
[07:51] <sjg> Ditto coy
[07:51] <adriyel__> Coyctecm, and franco64 = double post :P
[07:52] <dalamar> yay for ubuntu ;)
[07:52] <Coyctecm> =)
[07:52] <sjg> Ive been a unix user pretty much since about 1991 or so, And I love ubuntu
[07:52] <theine> yay for vim!
[07:52] <franco64> learn linux from beginner to advance there is always thing to learn
[07:52] <adriyel__> lets all thank mark shuttleworth for providing the fund$$$ for this project
[07:52] <Blind-Guardian> hi
[07:52] <spekkie> does anybody here have the same problem with installing mono-jit (dep for mono) which can't install mono-assemblies-base-1.1.7 ?
[07:52] <adriyel__> franco64, yes, for example, I could start dev'ing for a project or something, but thats a bit of a timesink...(understatement)
[07:52] <dalamar> crazy rich people that have been in space, thanks
[07:53] <Coyctecm> I can't figure out why all newbies start first using ubuntu...there is much more easier(graphical tools) in other distros..
[07:53] <Blind-Guardian> i would like to host a server of a online game, ubuntu is good for this ?
[07:53] <Cody_> Anyone know about this samba question?
[07:53] <Coyctecm> I hate too much graphics...I love the command line =)
[07:53] <Blind-Guardian> command line for the win =)
[07:53] <sjg> Coyctecm, shrug. ubuntu just works :p
[07:53] <franco64> coyctecm: to learn any linux u first have to go beyond yourself
[07:53] <Coyctecm> yada yada
[07:53] <Jhair> I want to find out which files do not belong to any package on my system. Any ideas how this can be done?
[07:54] <franco64> and this is a great start for anyone
[07:54] <deprave> Blind-Guardian : as long as your game has a ported version for debian based systems, and you have everything needed to run the server (physical resources too) it should be no problem.
[07:54] <monkey89> ack.  anyone know why authentication would fail with freenx?  im getting "ERROR: wrong pasword or login" which is definitely not true.
[07:54] <judax> Coyctecm: ubuntu is red-hot, lots of press, plus ubuntu is all about linux-to-the-masses
[07:54] <Coyctecm> yes it's true. it's better start from the terminla
[07:54] <franco64> there is plenty of info and irc chats for people to get to grips with this
[07:54] <Blind-Guardian> rofl nobody's can help me ?
[07:54] <Coyctecm> terminal than clicking with mouse
[07:54] <deprave> Blind-Guardian i just answered your question
[07:54] <Blind-Guardian> urf sorry, thx
[07:54] <franco64> u have to push yourself or why go to linux
[07:54] <lewion> where is java?
[07:55] <Coyctecm> is here any ubuntu developers? I have one wish
[07:55] <deprave> !tell lewion about java
[07:55] <slask3n> Blind-Guardian: Help yuou with what?
[07:55] <adriyel__> Coyctecm, you're in the wrong channel for devs
[07:55] <lewion> yeah tell me
[07:55] <dalamar> #uvubtu-devel
[07:55] <adriyel__> Coyctecm, go to #ubuntu-devel
[07:55] <Coyctecm> ok
[07:55] <dalamar> ubuntu even
[07:55] <franco64> stay with windows (aarrgghh) or mac (which i have to say i do love) have loads of macs
[07:55] <Blind-Guardian> thx deprave
[07:55] <adriyel__> or ubuntu-dev
[07:55] <adriyel__> I dunno
[07:55] <sjg> #ubuntu-devel
[07:56] <adriyel__> franco64, install Linux on all the win32/mac machines
[07:56] <adriyel__> then cluster them
[07:56] <adriyel__> then own the world.
[07:56] <sjg> Lol
[07:56] <adriyel__>  :)
[07:56] <franco64> and the mac os is just another linux (sort of distro) and that is what got me interested in linux
[07:56] <deprave> correction
[07:56] <deprave> it's fbsd based
[07:56] <sjg> Take over the world, pinky and the brain style
[07:56] <lewion> lol
[07:56] <adriyel__> sjg, one of my pranks on the admins, was using their own computers, to crack the hash of their password. I used Clusterknoppix to cluster 2 classroom fulls of computers to crack it
[07:56] <Xinex> is there someone willing to help me with my win/ubuntu network problem that won't yell at me?
[07:56] <adriyel__> I bribed my favorite teacher into letting me, she hates the admins
[07:56] <franco64> well adriyel i have a pc that has windows and ubuntu twin boot
[07:57] <sjg> lol adriyel__
[07:57] <adriyel__> 70 computers tends to get a hash dealt with quickly
[07:57] <adriyel__> *ahhhh* that was glorious.
[07:57] <slask3n> Blind-Guardian: What was it you wanted to do?
[07:57] <deprave> Xinex what are you trying to do again?
[07:57] <franco64> i have three macs which i love to do graphics (which i have to say that linux is not the great at)
[07:57] <sjg> agreed, especially dumb admins that use easy passwords :P
[07:57] <adriyel__> theres 3 admins
[07:57] <medamaybe> ok, let me rephrase what I asked earlier: is it me or is ESD unstable as hell?!
[07:57] <Xinex> oh wait, deprave, I think I got it
[07:57] <adriyel__> their password = 3stooges
[07:57] <franco64> and linux for system admin stuff
[07:57] <_Jonas_> Hey, everybody. I got a question, maybe someone can help: I want to install ubuntu on my mom's old notebook. Its cdrom drive is broken so I can't use it. Is there any way to boot from an USB external harddrive?
[07:57] <sjg> lol adriyel__
[07:57] <Xinex> what is the command to start samba?
[07:58] <adriyel__> I'm serious.
[07:58] <Blind-Guardian> slask3n it is a bomberman online game
[07:58] <decaf> medamaybe: yes!
[07:58] <adriyel__> my dad and I cracked up when I told him
[07:58] <sjg> I dont blame you
[07:58] <Blind-Guardian> ( http://bomberman.epiknet.net )
[07:58] <medamaybe> decaf: so why does ubuntu come with esd?
[07:58] <adriyel__> they're such morons...
[07:58] <sjg> Thats a weeeeeeeeeak password
[07:58] <deprave> franco64: ......system administration is done on macs, unix boxes, xbox's, TI83 graphing calculators. you're just making excuses not to learn
[07:58] <adriyel__> they really should have seti@home or folding or something on the schools computers, they do NOTHING all night
[07:58] <decaf> medamaybe: becouse alsa's multichannel support is worse. it's getting better now
[07:59] <franco64> deprave: maybe
[07:59] <adriyel__> I'm gonna force them into making the school my personal supercomputer if they don't install folding...
[07:59] <survivor> folding?
[07:59] <adriyel__> (or maybe I'll do that myself *wicked grin*)
[07:59] <medamaybe> decaf: is there no alternative?
[07:59] <lenny_> how's it goin
[07:59] <adriyel__> its like seti@home, its a distributed work load model
[07:59] <deprave> adriyel__ : worm and virus propogation targeting windows machines, a diabolical plot to end the monopoly
[07:59] <franco64> i ahve done many admin stuff on the mac ( i am a network admin for a company that only really uses macs)
[07:59] <adriyel__> they divvie up the work
[07:59] <adriyel__> deprave, why do you think I support my local virus writer?
[07:59] <adriyel__> lol.
[07:59] <deprave> hah
[07:59] <adriyel__> I wrote a simple one not too long ago, just to piss off the admins
[08:00] <decaf> medamaybe: for gnome users, no. KDE people have "arts". it's a memory eater like all other KDE apps.
[08:00] <franco64> but the really good stuff is beyond the GUI interface which is all linux based
[08:00] <adriyel__> it had a habit of making the explorer shell flash like a kid with ADHD on crack
[08:00] <adriyel__> and then forcing a reboot
[08:00] <adriyel__> randomly.
[08:00] <deprave> ahah
[08:00] <adriyel__> erm, pseudo-randomly, sorry, no fuzzy there
[08:00] <franco64> so linux is what makes mac tick when it comes to admin stuff
[08:00] <Coyctecm> Is official ubuntu repos support for fluxbox or something similar window manager?
[08:00] <adriyel__> it was quite funny, because norton couldn't pick it up (didn't have a typical virus signature)
[08:00] <Xinex> what is the command to start samba and how do I get samba to start automatically with the computer?
[08:00] <Gerriall> Does anybody have a recommendation for configuring Dual Monitor inside Ubuntu?
[08:00] <medamaybe> decaf: so basically....KDE kinda somewhat sucks?
[08:00] <adriyel__> they couldn't figure out WHAT was going on
[08:00] <deprave> franco64 : no, linux isn't.
[08:00] <franco64> pc's i have to say i try to avoid
[08:01] <adriyel__> PC's are faster, deal with it.
[08:01] <adriyel__> they're cheaper too
[08:01] <lancer285> can anyone help me, I'm having problems killing a process
[08:01] <slask3n> Blind-Guardian: And you can't make it work correctly?
[08:01] <franco64> viruses viruses
[08:01] <adriyel__> I hate to disappoint you, but a dual Athlon X2 4800 is gonna pwn a dual G5
[08:01] <medamaybe> KDE sucks and gnome doesn't have a good sound server...that's kinda sad
[08:01] <decaf> medamaybe: that's just my own opinion. you should try yourself
[08:01] <deprave> franco64: OSX is powered on a FreeBSD based system, which is not Linux. being a system administrator i would hope you could differentiate the two
[08:01] <Xinex> what is the command to start samba and how do I get samba to start automatically with the computer?
[08:01] <adriyel__> medamaybe, whats wrong with sound in gnome? mine works fine
[08:01] <Blind-Guardian> slask3n yep, it pratically finish
[08:01] <adjacent_> medamaybe: we all need aqua
[08:01] <anacron> can you guys tell me what was the name of that winmac mounting script
[08:02] <adriyel__> deprave, um, what about OS 9? gotta give NeXT some love
[08:02] <adriyel__> lolz.
[08:02] <medamaybe> adjacent_: what's aqua?
[08:02] <lancer285> I need help killing a process.
[08:02] <adriyel__> its actually darwin BSD
[08:02] <Xinex> O_o
[08:02] <franco64> deprave: the structure is still the same
[08:02] <Blind-Guardian> but i can't disgn it :/
[08:02] <deprave> it's fbsd with a different name
[08:02] <adjacent_> medamaybe: mac's wm
[08:02] <franco64> bravo adriyel
[08:02] <medamaybe> adriyel_:  I can't play any sound files...xmms crashed, beep-media-player crashed, rhythembox crashed...:/
[08:02] <deprave> franco64: hardly, maybe the core principals
[08:02] <lancer285> if I type kill -9 7735
[08:02] <lancer285> it doesn't go away
[08:02] <adriyel__> medamaybe, use rhythmbox
[08:02] <Jhair> Xinex, /etc/init.d/smbd AFAIK
[08:02] <anacron> "winmac" automatic mounting script anyone?, what's the real name?
[08:02] <lancer285> if I do killall wineserver it doesn't die
[08:03] <Blind-Guardian> I need disigneur
[08:03] <medamaybe> adriyel__: rhythmbox keeps crashing as well
[08:03] <franco64> well if u where to do any admin stuff what would u rather use linux or mac
[08:03] <deprave> lancer285 : killall -9 wineserver maybe
[08:03] <adriyel__> medamaybe, install the gstreamer plugins from synaptic
[08:03] <Blind-Guardian> I need designer
[08:03] <Blind-Guardian> *
[08:03] <franco64> mac has still a few things that do cause problems
[08:03] <carthik> lancer do ps aux | grep wine then note the pid of the process you want to kill and kill that
[08:03] <franco64> it nice and it simple to work with
[08:03] <lancer285> deprave it's not killing it ):
[08:03] <medamaybe> ok, I'll try that (although last time I did that, it killed the rest of the sound server
[08:03] <anacron> Francis,  like linux doesn't?
[08:03] <deprave> franco64 : i haven't used mac since i was in grade school, i use unix for desktop operations and 'system administration' as you put it
[08:03] <Tortel> how do i copy a file from my home directory to /ect/ using sudo? i know "sudo cp {file} " but i dont know how to make it /ect/
[08:04] <carthik> lancer285, worst case, restart gnome and be done with it :)
[08:04] <deprave> lancer285: ps aux | grep wine, then kill -9 PID
[08:04] <chris> hey all, quick question what file deterimines if gdm or kdm starts?
[08:04] <lancer285> carthik I just did that. the process won't die when I do kill -9 pid
[08:04] <lancer285> or when I do killall wineserver
[08:04] <anacron> toran, first is the file you want to copy and then where you want to copy it
[08:04] <deprave> are you doing sudo killall -9 wineserver?
[08:04] <lancer285> just restart gnome then?
[08:04] <adjacent_> im glad we all use linux for a desktop. one day when the linux desktop becomes a reality we will be considered pioneers!
[08:04] <franco64> deprave mac's curent version 10.4 is all fancy and i do love it for basic things like graphics and even programming
[08:04] <lancer285> no, I'm not doing sudo
[08:04] <Tortel> well, to make my question simple, how do i edit the ect/inetd.conf file?
[08:04] <carthik> lancer restart gnome then... that would be ctrl+alt+backspace : before you do this, save whatever else you have to save
[08:05] <Tortel> whats the command to do that?
[08:05] <lancer285> k
[08:05] <carthik> Tortel, what text editor do you like?
[08:05] <franco64> but admin stuff u have to say that linux is more stable and u can adapt to your needs more easy
[08:05] <medamaybe> adriyel__ ALL of them?
[08:05] <Duvel> !gdesklets
[08:05] <ubotu> Duvel: Are you on ritalin?
[08:05] <Duvel> yes
[08:05] <carthik> Tortel, try sudo gedit /etc/inetd.conf
[08:05] <Tortel> whatever works
[08:05] <anacron> we drink ritalin!
[08:05] <Tortel> ok
[08:06] <deprave> franco64: anything you can do on your little mac boxes i can do on any pc, and probably better. and also my dad can beat your dad up
[08:06] <franco64> that's not nice deprave
[08:06] <deprave> s/pc/unix boxes
[08:06] <deprave> franco64 : it's a joke
[08:06] <franco64> are u still in your teens deprave
[08:06] <deprave> you know, like recess quarrals etc
[08:06] <sjg> deprave, my govenor can beat your govenor up.
[08:06] <chris> anyone know an easy way to change from kdm to gdm?
[08:06] <deprave> franco64: yes but i read at a college level
[08:06] <Tortel> yay that worked
[08:06] <Duvel> I apt-got gdesklets and gdesklets-data, now it says i need lmsensors... what can i do?
[08:06] <Tortel> brb
[08:06] <franco64> i hope so
[08:06] <lenny_> !repos
[08:06] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:07] <slask3n> Duvel: Install lmsensor
[08:07] <franco64> pc,mac,linux war
[08:07] <Duvel> slask3n, yes but how, they are not in apt?
[08:07] <deprave> well, pc can mean anything really
[08:07] <slask3n> Google is your friend ;)
[08:07] <franco64> what can i say they all steal from each other and we all bicker about it
[08:08] <Xinex> ugh, when I try to star samba it says the daemons fail
[08:08] <Xinex> start*
[08:08] <spekkie> is anyone else  having trouble getting restricted packages from hoary-extras? it happens with every mirror here. i would like to install mono-1.1.7 with monodevelop etc but it has unresolved dependencies and i don't have a clue as to what is causing this
[08:08] <Duvel> slask3n, i did google before i came here, found no help
[08:08] <slask3n> Duvel: Google for debian+lmsensor
[08:08] <deprave> franco64 : your theory is humerous
[08:08] <slask3n> Duvel: Or lmsensor+download
[08:08] <ubuntufun> hi
[08:08] <NoUse> !info lm-sensors
[08:08] <ubotu> lm-sensors: (Utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors), section utils, is extra. Version: 2.8.8-7ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 453 kB, Installed size: 1404 kB
[08:08] <Gnurdux> i cant find the downlaod for Kubuntu and a friend needs it
[08:08] <Xinex> ugh, when I try to start samba it says the daemons fail, what should I do?
[08:09] <Gnurdux> ah just foudn it
[08:09] <Coyctecm> is there anyway to install ubuntu without x-server?
[08:09] <Gnurdux> sry for the trouble
[08:09] <deprave> probably read a manual or something
[08:09] <Duvel> ah there that should help thx
[08:09] <deprave> Coyctecm : yes, in the beginning, it asks you if you want to install normal or server
[08:10] <franco64> gnurdux: see what happens when u use google
[08:10] <Coyctecm> deprave: ok, but will this "server" install all servers too?openssh and so on..?
[08:10] <franco64> like everyone google is king
[08:10] <franco64> i think everone can agree on that
[08:10] <franco64> well maybe with firefox
[08:10] <franco64> soory me being stupid
[08:11] <deprave> Coyctecm : it prompts you just like installing the regular way what software you want to install, and besides, what's so difficult about typing sudo apt-get install openssl?
[08:12] <lenny_> !kde
[08:12] <ubotu> A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX.  No i was just asking cause I don't wan't servers, I just want ubuntu without X :)
[08:13] <lenny_> How do I get kde to be an option under sessions on the ubuntu login screen?
[08:13] <Coyctecm> deprave: Then I can install X anf fluxbox and so on without too much bloat =)
[08:13] <adriyel__> Coyctecm, if you wish, yes.
[08:14] <slask3n> Coyctecm: try reinstall with server install
[08:14] <Duvel> now if is for example start the system/misc sysinfo gdesklet, i only get a small square on the desktop, and clicking configure doesn't do anything
[08:14] <Coyctecm> yes that I will do, not with this machine but another one =)
[08:14] <medamaybe> adriyel__ do I have to install ALL of the gstreamer plugins? even the ones for alsa?
[08:14] <Coyctecm> thanks
[08:15] <ubuntufun> Hi anybody with the idea of using ubuntu for gateway server
[08:15] <slask3n> Coyctecm:  type server during install instead of just pressing enter
[08:15] <cyberix> Is there any player which understands OGG/Flac ?
[08:16] <deprave> yeah, reading stuff is much better than arbitrarily pressing buttons
[08:16] <Hoxzer> what is good sofware for doing C++ in ubuntu?
[08:16] <deprave> uh
[08:16] <deprave> pico
[08:16] <Duvel> starting a gdesklet only gives a small square instead of the info it should show
[08:16] <ubuntufun> i can't play videos in ubuntu
[08:16] <lenny_> cyberix:  I think xmms does if you install the packages for them... also available via apt I believe
[08:16] <adjacent_> Hoxzer: g++ works well for me
[08:16] <Jhair> Hoxzer, g++
[08:16] <Hoxzer> ok
[08:16] <deprave> !tell ubuntufun about win32codec
[08:16] <ubuntufun> is it possible to play videos in ubuntu?
[08:16] <Tortel> what will this command do?
[08:16] <Tortel> rsh machine /usr/sbin/identd
[08:16] <deprave> !tell ubuntufun about win32codecs
[08:16] <Doonz> can you guys think of anyreason why i cvant get nautilis to open up?
[08:16] <deprave> wtf
[08:16] <deprave> what's the activator
[08:17] <medamaybe> can anyone tell me which gstreamer plugins are useful for esd?
[08:17] <cyberix> lenny_: Too bad. Xmms crashes before I can see the GUI.
[08:17] <Hoxzer> Im thinking about buying a laptop so I can program in school
[08:17] <deprave> !codec
[08:17] <ubotu> deprave: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:17] <Tortel> !tell Tortel about win32codecs
[08:17] <Duvel> !tell ubuntufun about w32codecs
[08:17] <deprave> thanks
[08:17] <deprave> thanks Duvel
[08:17] <anacron> !mount
[08:17] <ubotu> from memory, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[08:17] <keith> hey i got a q about the boot loader provided on the ubuntu cd
[08:17] <Xinex> why do the samba daemons fail when I try to start it?
[08:17] <nerdy2> medamaybe: gstreamer0.8-esd   ?
[08:17] <Doonz> can anyone recomend another file manager instead of nautilis?
[08:17] <medamaybe> nerdy2: nothing more?
[08:17] <keith> if i install windows on the other partition for a dual boot and it overwrites the current bootloader (which it will)
[08:17] <keith> can i just put in the cd and you know replace the boot loader with lilo or something?
[08:18] <cyberix> I'd also need a cd-ripper that'd support tagging the OGG/Flacs. It seems that abcde does not :-(
[08:18] <Doonz> !file manager
[08:18] <Duvel> anybody installed gdesklets succesfully?
[08:18] <Doonz> !filemanager
[08:18] <ubotu> Doonz: Are you smoking crack?
[08:18] <Doonz> your a crack bot
[08:18] <nerdy2> medamaybe: that's the esd specific part  :)  you probably want other things  like the cdparanoia and vorbis plugins to play certain media
[08:18] <Duvel> !botsnack
[08:18] <ubotu> thanks duvel :)
[08:19] <Duvel> a snackbot
[08:19] <deprave> anyone have success getting gaim-vv running properly on ubuntu?
[08:19] <Tortel> !tell Tortel about w32codecs
[08:19] <bikram_> ./test
[08:21] <medamaybe> nerdy2: thanks
[08:22] <nerdy2> medamaybe: you can "apt-cache search gstreamer0.8" and see what things you will want  (e.g. get the dvd plugin if you want to...)
[08:22] <nerdy2> medamaybe: or search for gstreamer0.8 in synaptic :)
[08:23] <medamaybe> cool, I'll try that
[08:23] <bikram_> MySQL packages are installed but I am not being able to use mysql. Why?
[08:23] <Xinex> Why do the samba daemons fail to start?
[08:24] <NoUse> bikram_ have you started the server?
[08:25] <bikram_> i don't know where to look for that.
[08:27] <NoUse> bikram_ make sure you have the server installed apt-get install mysql-server
[08:27] <keith> hey if i boot the ubuntu cd will it let me install lilo and just lilO/
[08:27] <bikram_> Hey NoUse: I'm trying for that,
[08:28] <bikram_> NoUse: could not install, the error message:-
[08:28] <lenny_> Is there a sun jdk package available from apt, or should I just use the bin from the sun web site
[08:28] <bikram_> Package mysql-server is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:28] <bikram_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:28] <bikram_> is only available from another source
[08:28] <bikram_> E: Package mysql-server has no installation candidate
[08:28] <lenny_> also, how do you change your login path in ubuntu, i.e. where would I add /usr/java/jdk/bin in the login scripts
[08:29] <lenny_> !java
[08:29] <ubotu> it has been said that java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:29] <keith> !lilo
[08:29] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, keith
[08:30] <biblio> can anyone let me know how to change the language from english to spanish_
[08:30] <anacron> i found cedega deb file somewhere, should i install it instead of cedega cvs?
[08:31] <pcharky> biblio: apt-get install localeconf
[08:31] <ubuntufun> hey i got to go and switch back to windows if i can't play videos in ubuntu
[08:31] <biblio> thanks!
[08:31] <pcharky> ubuntufun: What's the problem?
[08:32] <anacron> ubuntufun: install vlc and they work
[08:32] <ubuntufun> i can't play back my videos
[08:33] <ubuntufun> how is it done ?
[08:33] <Tortel> Anyone know a good and easy to use/install ident server?
[08:33] <bigmouth000> hey room
[08:33] <pcharky> ubuntufun: sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:33] <xhaker> Tortel.. apt-get install oidentd
[08:34] <titaniululz2> how do i restart the entire x interface?
[08:34] <robotgeek> bigmouth000: hey, state your problem
[08:34] <ubuntufun> thanx pcharky
[08:34] <anacron> ubuntufun, if you have alsa then use vlc-alsa
[08:34] <xhaker> titaniululz, ctrl + alt + backspace
[08:34] <anacron> or "if you use alsa"
[08:34] <floppyears> hi
[08:34] <bigmouth000> yea ... avi fil probly divx ripped plays great vid but no audio
[08:34] <bigmouth000> sound works great otherwise
[08:34] <floppyears> I'm trying to create a ssh key, but I'm not sure if I should use dsa or rsa as the algorithm, could somebody explain me which one is better?
[08:34] <bigmouth000> in vlc i.e
[08:35] <robotgeek> crimsun_ is the sound guy, let's see if your timing is right :)
[08:35] <pcharky> floppyears: I believe rsa is better, but i'm not sure, and (very bad) I don't know why
[08:35] <bigmouth000> also, does it make a diff if the file is being read from an ntfs partition,
[08:35] <robotgeek> bigmouth000: do u have all vlc packages, like vlc-alsa etc?
[08:35] <nalioth_wrkn> floppyears: an ssh key or gpg?
[08:36] <Tortel> :(
[08:36] <titaniululz2> is there anything else i can try besides ctrl alt backspace to reset things? i'm using freenx to control this computer and occasionally it 'breaks' (stops using the correct font, theme, icons, colors, etc and just basically goes retarded). rebooting the server always fixes it, so there must be something i can reset aside from rebooting the machine (which takes forever). ideas?
[08:36] <anacron> bigmouth000, i can watch all my videos from ntfs partition with no problems
[08:36] <bigmouth000> i installed only vlc through synaptic
[08:36] <Tortel> it says couldent find package oidentd
[08:36] <floppyears> pcharky: what do you mean by very bad ?
[08:36] <floppyears> nalioth_wrkn: ssh key
[08:36] <robotgeek> bigmouth000: you might want to get vlc-alsa also, and while u are there...get vlc-esd too :)
[08:36] <Xinex> I can't get samba to start, can anyone help me?
[08:36] <pcharky> floppyears: the fact that i don't know why ;)
[08:36] <lenny_> how do I permanently add a directory to my path?
[08:36] <nalioth_wrkn> floppyears: rsa
[08:37] <bigmouth000> looking that up now
[08:37] <pcharky> lenny_: sudo gedit /etc/profile
[08:37] <lenny_> cool
[08:37] <lenny_> thanx
[08:37] <robotgeek> bigmouth000: sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-alsa
[08:37] <monkey89> has anyone gotten freenx to work in breezy?
[08:37] <floppyears> pcharky: thanks though
[08:37] <floppyears> nalioth_wrkn: thanks
[08:37] <bigmouth000> robotgeek, thanks .. got that
[08:38] <bytefoo> should i be worried that chmod is not found when booting up?
[08:38] <bigmouth000> aah .. problem solved, thanks robotgeek
[08:38] <pcharky> bytefoo: what exactly to you mean by "booting up"
[08:38] <robotgeek> bigmouth000: it's a good idea to use aptitude, it get's all relevent packages automagically
[08:38] <bytefoo> well when i load the kernel, after group
[08:38] <robotgeek> bigmouth000: great!
[08:39] <bytefoo> its like /init : line 89 : chmod : not found
[08:39] <bytefoo> or something like that
[08:39] <Xinex> I can't get samba to start, can anyone help me?
[08:39] <bytefoo> group = grub
[08:39] <pcharky> bytefoo: I guess that's quite bad :(
[08:39] <bytefoo> :-/
[08:40] <pcharky> bytefoo: is it there when the system is fully booted?
[08:40] <bytefoo> im about to check :o
[08:40] <bytefoo> yah
[08:40] <bytefoo> it's wierd
[08:40] <bytefoo> i guess i shouldn't worry :|
[08:41] <lenny_> I'm getting some wierd xml error all the time and its starting to freak me out.  I am getting the same thing from different sites
[08:41] <lenny_> I think every time I send form data
[08:42] <Tortel> anyone know any other ident servers besides oident and xident?
[08:43] <crimsun> apt-cache search identd
[08:44] <Determinist> any idea if amule creates the same type of .part files and .met files the windows official emule client does?
[08:44] <Tm_T> um, how usable breezy is atm?
[08:44] <crimsun> Tm_T, quite.
[08:44] <Xinex> How do I start samba?
[08:44] <crimsun> Xinex, sudo invoke-rc.d samba start
[08:44] <Tm_T> crimsun: ok, so I'll test it some day soon then :)
[08:45] <lenny_> XML Parsing Error: syntax error
[08:45] <lenny_> Location: chrome://global/content.commonDialog.xul
[08:45] <lenny_> Line Number 1, Column 1:
[08:45] <lenny_> ing);
[08:45] <Determinist> Tortel, you trying to get on dalnet?
[08:45] <Xinex> crimsun, didn't work
[08:46] <Xinex> starting samba daemons.. [fail]
[08:46] <ncp> i have just setup postfix on a ubuntu an it works fine, but if use nmap port 25 i closed, why is that? all other ports is open...
[08:46] <crimsun> Xinex, pgrep smbd
[08:46] <ncp> from another client, lan and wan
[08:46] <ncp> an there is no firewall blocking
[08:47] <Xinex> crimsun, it didn't return anything
[08:47] <crimsun> Xinex, is samba installed?
[08:47] <Xinex> yes
[08:47] <Tortel> Determinist Tortel, you trying to get on dalnet? <-No, Quakenet
[08:47] <Tortel> i can connect, but it takes 30-40 tries
[08:48] <ReleaseX> apt-get install sun-j2re1.5 returns couln't find package, what's the problem?
[08:48] <Goshawk> where is glade-- located?
[08:48] <pcharky> Xinex: Look for samba errors with: tail -n 20 /var/log/syslog
[08:48] <confrey> hi everybody
[08:48] <emile> ReleaseX: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:48] <Goshawk> in which package?
[08:48] <Determinist> Tortel, i know how that's like.
[08:48] <confrey> how can I read the command of a menu item in gnome?
[08:48] <Determinist> Tortel, try www.dal.net , they have links to good ident servers there you can use
[08:48] <Tortel> And i *should* have installed a ident server, but it doesnt want to ork
[08:49] <Tortel> ok
[08:49] <pcharky> Goshawk: glade-2
[08:49] <Xinex> pcharky, what am I looking for?
[08:49] <Goshawk> pcharky, are you sure?
[08:49] <Goshawk> i installed it an i have an error
[08:49] <pcharky> Goshawk: apt-cache show glade-2
[08:49] <pcharky> Xinex: can you post the output to paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:50] <mz2> where could i adjust the time delay for sudo? so that i shouldn't have to write the password all the time
[08:50] <Xinex> yeah pcharky, one sec
[08:52] <Xinex> pcharky, paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1639
[08:53] <vict0r> does anyone know where the backport servers are now?
[08:54] <vict0r> or have they simply ceased to be?
[08:54] <Goshawk> pcharky, same error
[08:54] <Goshawk> pcharky, glade-- not found
[08:54] <titaniululz> can anyone recommend a good editor? DON'T SAY VI, I HATE IT >:(
[08:54] <vict0r> vim then
[08:54] <Goshawk> titaniululz, nano
[08:54] <xhaker> vict0r, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org
[08:54] <titaniululz> vict0r, argh i hate you
[08:54] <pcharky> Xinex: hmm, nothing in there. anything in /var/log/samba/smbd.log?
[08:54] <titaniululz> Goshawk, nano is alright but is there something more 'complete' ie for programming in?
[08:54] <pcharky> Goshawk: it's in universe
[08:54] <xhaker> titaniululz, GUI or Console?
[08:54] <pcharky> !repositories
[08:54] <ubotu> well, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:55] <Goshawk> titaniululz, use and ide instead
[08:55] <titaniululz> xhaker: preferably console but if you know of some nice gui ones i'd take those as well :)
[08:55] <Goshawk> titaniululz, or the gnome edit tool
[08:55] <titaniululz> gedit = the gnome edit tool?
[08:55] <Goshawk> titaniululz, yep
[08:55] <illsci> hey where does ubuntu read and write its iptables rules too ?
[08:55] <titaniululz> yeah i was using it earlier, it's pretty nice
[08:55] <xhaker> gedit is pretty good. scite is another one.. GUI
[08:55] <Goshawk> titaniululz, if you wanna program
[08:55] <Xinex> pcharky, it isn't there
[08:55] <Goshawk> titaniululz, use a ide instead
[08:55] <xhaker> console.. there is not much to choose from.. nano or vi
[08:55] <titaniululz> any other general purpose editors and/or ide's you would recommend? i'm used to eclipse and MS VS.net on windows
[08:55] <Goshawk> titaniululz, like anjuta for c7c++
[08:56] <titaniululz> installing scite now to try it out
[08:56] <xhaker> titaniululz, you can use eclipse on ubuntu, and install the cdt plugin to code c++
[08:56] <pcharky> Xinex: are you sure you've samba installed? check: dpkg -l samba
[08:57] <xhaker> what languages do you usually code?
[08:57] <titaniululz> xhaker, this machine is a p3 450 with 256mb of ram. i'd rather not use eclipse :)
[08:57] <xhaker> hehe
[08:57] <titaniululz> java, c, c++. learning ruby and python right now
[08:57] <ReleaseX> emile: any idea when hoary-extras is going to be working again?
[08:57] <xhaker> i need a good python IDE/Editor
[08:57] <xhaker> i'm using gedit now
[08:57] <xhaker> i heard Eric is cool
[08:58] <Tortel> heh
[08:58] <Tortel> my computer is a 3.27ghz P4 w/1gig o ram
[08:58] <davro> titaniululz: for python try boa-constructor
[08:58] <emile> ReleaseX: no i haven't i just had the same problem two days ago and i build a java package using that wiki
[08:58] <emile> ReleaseX: now azureus is running ;-)
[08:58] <xhaker> davro, boa constructor has debugging capabilities?
[08:59] <Xinex> pcharky, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1640
[08:59] <titaniululz> scite seems fairly nice, much faster than gedit
[08:59] <Goshawk> pcharky, i know that glade-2 is in the universe, i've it installed and there is not any glade-- executable
[09:00] <tahorg> Goshawk: gazpacho is better
[09:00] <titaniululz> davro, how heavy is it?
[09:00] <xhaker> titaniululz, i cant use scite now, it's kinda broken in breezy
[09:00] <Goshawk> tahorg, ok i've it, and i don't find how to build the source
[09:00] <pcharky> Goshawk: type glade, then hit the <tab> key numerous times ;)
[09:00] <pcharky> Goshawk: it's there if you installed glade-2
[09:00] <unk^lap> what do i type to delete a mount, i only got a empty folder... ?
[09:01] <tahorg> Goshawk: build the source ?
[09:01] <titaniululz> xhaker, :(
[09:01] <titaniululz> i'm going to install boa i guess, see how it is
[09:02] <davro> personally have only used boa-constructor a few time's under ubuntu, debbugging it there, runs nice on my 1.4gig laptop
[09:02] <Goshawk> tahorg, yep build the source of the gui that i've done
[09:02] <xhaker> titaniululz, tell me when you get there :P
[09:02] <pcharky> Xinex: sorry, it's  /var/log/samba/log.smbd
[09:02] <titaniululz> also know of any good ruby ides i can use in ubuntu?
[09:02] <Tortel> ok, i installed oidentd using the ./configure, make, make install commands, is that all i should do?
[09:02] <fraggsta> I have a problem with my shiny new mp3 player which should connect via USB..
[09:02] <tahorg> Goshawk: gazpacho gives you a .glade file, wich is a description of you interface in xml
[09:02] <Goshawk> pcharky, i'm developing on amd64 and installing glade-2 there is only the glade-2 executable
[09:02] <fraggsta> Instead of working, get get:
[09:02] <tahorg> Goshawk: you have to import it with libglade
[09:02] <fraggsta> usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[09:02] <fraggsta> usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71
[09:02] <titaniululz> holy moley boa needs a lot of stuff. "After unpacking 25.5MB of additional disk space will be used." :O
[09:03] <Goshawk> tahorg, yep, my problem is that i've not the glade-- executable to build the source
[09:03] <pcharky> Goshawk: that's the executable for glade2 then..
[09:03] <davro> titaniululz: have been learning ruby myself, i also lust to find an ide for ruby.
[09:03] <Xinex> pcharky, there's a bunch of errors there
[09:03] <tahorg> Goshawk: it's a really bad idea to "build the source" using glade
[09:03] <pcharky> Goshawk: if you need 1, install the "glade" package.
[09:03] <pcharky> Xinex: post?
[09:04] <fraggsta> so can't I just force a device descriptor or..something?
[09:04] <Goshawk> tahorg, so how should i build the sources of my gui?
[09:04] <tahorg> Goshawk: you don't need this
[09:04] <Goshawk> tahooie, pcharky : glade-2 wants glade-- to build my sources...
[09:04] <Xinex> pcharky, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1641
[09:04] <tahorg> Goshawk: you want to build your app in C ?
[09:04] <Goshawk> tahorg, c++
[09:05] <tahorg> Goshawk: well, find a tutorial for libglade in c++
[09:05] <tahorg> you don't want glade-- generating the callback for you
[09:06] <pcharky> Xinex: The logfile sais you have a section without any parameters in it.
[09:06] <Xinex> ok...
[09:06] <tahorg> Goshawk:
[09:06] <tahorg> oops
[09:07] <Xinex> so what should I do pcharky?
[09:07] <pcharky> Xinex: Check out which section is empty, and either fill it, or remove it: sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:08] <vict0r> ok got them working.... thanks
[09:08] <ncp> i have just setup postfix on ubuntu, everything works fine, but port 25 isn't it open, when postfix i running? no firewall is blocking, if i nmap its just closed because i have port 25 open in my firewall, any ideas?
[09:09] <titanium> this supposedly does python/ruby -- www.widestudio.org
[09:09] <pcharky> Xinex: the samba configuration is like windows' .ini files. sections are specified by []
[09:09] <xhaker> titanium, that one is great.. but is not free
[09:09] <Xinex> ok pcharky, but it's weird, # is only for a comment on a single line, right?
[09:09] <titanium> xhaker, it looks free, the source is available
[09:10] <Newguy> how do i access Realplayer? Using sudo apt-get install Realplayer I am told that I already have the newest version
[09:10] <rob_p> ncp:  Probably because Postfix on Ubuntu is setup by default to only listen on local loopback (<IP_ADDRESS>).
[09:10] <pcharky> Xinex: I believe so
[09:10] <Newguy> however, I can't find it in Gnome
[09:11] <Belutz> is there a good equalizer soft for gnome?
[09:11] <ncp> rob_p: okay :\
[09:12] <Newguy> also, how do i execute a .bin file in ubuntu
[09:12] <landotter> Newguy: run "realplay"
[09:12] <anacron> i downloaded some font's where should i put them to make them work?, or does it matter?
[09:12] <nalioth> Newguy: there is a wiki article on realplayer
[09:12] <landotter> put fonts in a directory named .fonts in your home directory.
[09:12] <nalioth> Newguy: wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:12] <anacron> thanks
[09:12] <Newguy> thanks
[09:13] <Xinex> yes!!! thanks pcharky
[09:13] <landotter> Realplayer10 doesn't like esd in Gnome, so you'll have to do a "killall esd" before running "realplay"
[09:13] <Xinex> It was an messed up shared folder
[09:13] <rob_p> ncp:  Did you need it to listen on other interfaces?  If so, have a look at the config file (/etc/postfix/main.cf) and modify it appropriately.
[09:13] <titanium> how do you add things to the gnome menu?
[09:13] <pcharky> landotter: unless Newguy's got a sb card.
[09:14] <nalioth> titanium: smeg menu editor
[09:14] <nalioth> titanium: check your priv msgs
[09:15] <titanium> thanks
[09:16] <ioboss> hii
[09:16] <ioboss> where i found cedega?
[09:16] <ncp> rob_p: no just want i to accept incomming connections to it, http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-June/091017.html there it says i just have to change 2 lines to the one below, but is correkt, smtp inet n - - - - smtpd
[09:17] <pcharky> ioboss: http://www.transgaming.com
[09:17] <linuxdave> I booted up for the first time a few minutes ago. The first thing I wanted to do was to configure the network. Clicking "Configure", I am aksed for the root password. My regular user pass doesn't work, and pressing enter doesn't work. I know root is disabled by default, do I really have to enable it to use the GUI config stuff?
[09:17] <nalioth> linuxdave: check your PMs
[09:17] <ReleaseX> anyone know when hoary-extras is going to be working again?
[09:19] <Xen> i was hoping someone could help me get my prism2 based usb wireless card working? ive tried everything i could see on the forum with wlanctl-ng etc, the best i can do is make the led blink
[09:19] <theine> Hi, is there a TeX channel on freenode?
[09:21] <GoClick> I've got an isssue, I installed samba, set the security to user and I can see the server on the windows machine but when I click on it it asks me for my username and password which are the same on the Windows and the Ubuntu machine but it doesn't accept it
[09:21] <adjacent_> theine: #LaTex?
[09:21] <lJlolel> grub doesn't load my window drive, how do  i replace grub with lilo (lilo worked)
[09:22] <landotter> pcharky, how does a sb card deal with esd/RP differently? :S
[09:23] <theine> adjacent, thanks, me idiot tried #tex and #tetex...
[09:23] <ioboss> where i found cedega for 64 bit???
[09:23] <ioboss> it exist?
[09:23] <nalioth> ioboss: you will look for 64bit cedega for a long time
[09:24] <ioboss> there isn't????
[09:24] <ioboss> :
[09:24] <bluefoxicy> nope
[09:24] <bluefoxicy> 64 bit wine doesn't work.
[09:24] <ioboss> nope?
[09:24] <ioboss> O_O
[09:24] <ioboss> noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:24] <carthik>  At http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver : It says Insert the following line into the new file
[09:24] <Dekkard> is anyone here running e17?
[09:24] <ioboss> why.. :
[09:24] <carthik> system_username = "network username"
[09:24] <bluefoxicy> if they made wine or its derivatives 64 bit, it wouldn't run 32 bit windows apps.
[09:24] <carthik> so should I be typing exactly that text, or something like < carthik = "network username" > or < carthik = "carthik" > ?
[09:25] <nalioth> carthik: be careful what you get from ubuntuguide
[09:25] <GoClick> Does anyone know why DNS would be really slow on the Linux machines (both Ubuntu and Fedora) in the same office as Windows machines for which DNS is fast?
[09:26] <carthik> nalioth, okay so what do I follow or do then?
[09:26] <bluefoxicy> GoClick:  no idea.  Install bind9 though to speed it up?
[09:26] <robotgeek> carthik: hi
[09:26] <theine> Sorry for asking in here, but is there a way to let latex write its dvi output to stdout?
[09:26] <nerdy2> GoClick: is it really the dns  (host  <any hostname> is slow?)
[09:27] <robotgeek> theine: you mean to log file?
[09:27] <ioboss> sorry but now i can install cedega 32 bit if my ubuntu is 64
[09:27] <GoClick> nerdy2, Yeah it's the lookups that are slow
[09:27] <theine> robotgeek, well, actually i'd like to pipe the dvi file to dvips (or rather dvipng)
[09:28] <nalioth> carthik: if you come to ubuntu from another distro, take the guide for what it is, if you are new to linux, seek other sources (like wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation)
[09:28] <ncp> i'm not sure how to change the postfix master.cf so postfix allows connections on port 25, anyone know a guide ect. ?
[09:29] <nerdy2> GoClick: and the lookups are fast (with nslookup or whatever) on the windows machines?   what sort of dns server is running?
[09:29] <ReleaseX> anyone know when hoary-extras is going to be working again?
[09:30] <vict0r> does anyone have the a site where i can get a deb java package?
[09:30] <robotgeek> theine: okay, explain it to be...u get the dvi file after u run the latex command, what do u want to do after that?
[09:31] <nalioths_dog> vict0r: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[09:31] <GoClick> nerdy2, their servers from our provider and on windows lookups with nslookup are fast and on linux they are not
[09:31] <GoClick> I just got this for some reason when running gedit from my root terminal
[09:31] <GoClick> (gedit:8830): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[09:31] <GoClick> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[09:31] <theine> robotgeek, the point is that i don't want to get the dvi file but pipe it directly to dvips
[09:32] <nerdy2> GoClick: that's because of how X authentication works, if you really want to run an X program as a different user, copy over your .Xauthority file say
[09:32] <robotgeek> theine: then just pipe it to that file latex <file> | dvipng ?
[09:32] <vict0r> yah right...
[09:32] <nerdy2> GoClick: and of course be wary that many gui programs are not written with running as root in mind
[09:33] <nalioth> vict0r: install "fakeroot" and then follow the instructions the dog sent ya
[09:33] <Newguy> Ok, yet another question... I have installed RealPlayer but still have no .mpg support... how do I go about getting support for mpg, avi, and wmv?
[09:33] <nalioth> GoClick: nerdy2 has got that right, some guis will tear up your homedir when they're run as root
[09:34] <robotgeek> theine: nope, that doesn't work..gimme a minute
[09:34] <theine> robotgeek, okidoki
[09:34] <lJlolel> can i just apt-get install lilo and that will replace grub?
[09:34] <robotgeek> theine: but why do u want to do that?
[09:35] <nerdy2> GoClick: hmm can't think of a reason offhand the lookups would be slow...  is everything alright at the network level (are lookups the only slow thing, is there packet loss, is there a firewall somewhere and if so is it set up correctly?)
[09:36] <theine> robotgeek, it would simply be neater...
[09:36] <nerdy2> GoClick: and of course it's always possible that the windows lookups are fast because they are caching them   (have you tried to defeat this by comparing the times of nslookup/host  with names you haven't looked up recently?)
[09:36] <DekaPink> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39513&page=2&pp=10&highlight=qemu <- I'm trying to do this, but it keeps doing this when I try to checkinstall: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1643
[09:36] <paulproteus> lJlolel: You should apt-get remove grub first.
[09:36] <paulproteus> lJlolel: But be afraid of mucking too much with the boot process.
[09:36] <theine> robotgeek, but if there's no trivial way of doing that I could also live with creating a temporary dvi file...
[09:38] <nalioth> DekaPink: you have 2 options: dont install it, or install using "make install"
[09:38] <nalioth> DekaPink: although i'm sure you can --force install with dpkg, i've just never had any luck with that
[09:38] <GoClick> nerdy2,  yes even on hostnames that are never looked up before :(
[09:38] <nitin> guys, what do you think is the recommended permissions level (chmod xxx) for files that a storage system creates - > admins and php should be able to read,modify,delete but others shouldnt
[09:39] <DekaPink> nalioth: Thanks. :)
[09:39] <GoClick> Does anyone know why Samba wouldn't authenticate in (security=user mode) when the username and password are exactly the same?
[09:39] <GoClick> It didn't seem to log anything to the log file for that ip address either, no failed atempt or anything
[09:39] <robotgeek> theine: i dunno, what i tht should work doesn't :(
[09:40] <GoClick> also if someone could post their sources.list file to a pastebin with the extras universe I'd appreciate it because I think mine got buggered
[09:40] <robotgeek> theine: but, why can't you just run all those commands in a script
[09:41] <lJlolel> paulproteus, yea, i am a bit afraid, any major tips?
[09:41] <athlon> !amarok
[09:41] <ubotu> [amarok]  a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[09:41] <nerdy2> GoClick: no idea about the lookups then,  but you can run your own nameserver (or if you want to use theirs,  run your own as a caching proxy)
[09:42] <nerdy2> GoClick: and that's probably a reasonable thing to do if their setup is buggered
[09:42] <GoClick> That's just sad
[09:42] <GoClick> Oh well
[09:42] <Determinist> i'll never understand why ubuntu installs chinese/korean/japanese/indic/punjabi or whatever fonts by default. cant be all that hard putting some extra screen that asks what bloody fonts you want installed other than the default english ones.
[09:42] <athlon> any of you know if amarok 1.3 is going to be backported to hoary soon ?
[09:42] <GoClick> nerdy2, do you know why samba would be being weird?
[09:42] <jaramillo> hello there
[09:42] <theine> robotgeek, i'm already doing that of course
[09:42] <robotgeek> theine: :)
[09:42] <crimsun> Determinist, we're open to suggestions for Breezy+1
[09:43] <paulproteus> lJlolel: Well, why stop using GRUB?
[09:43] <paulproteus> It's fine, isn't it?
[09:43] <chris_unfalterin> is anyone familiar with the averatec 5400?
[09:43] <Determinist> crimsun, good, where can i drop off comments? i'll be more than happy to try and assist in implementing these changes, cept i suppose it'll take me a while to get going
[09:44] <crimsun> Determinist, -devel mailing list, bugzilla, etc.
[09:44] <Hikaru79> Wheee, I'm on the Breezy LiveCD :)
[09:44] <lJlolel> paulproteus, grub wasnt loading my XP drive (lilo did ona  previous ubuntu install)
[09:44] <unk^lap> What do i type to remove folders ?
[09:44] <Determinist> crimsun, thanks
[09:44] <nerdy2> GoClick: i don't,  my experience with samba (when trying to deal with windows computers) is to mess around with it, and it'll randomly get better/worse  (maybe reboot the windows comp. if you feel like it)     [it works fine with other samba things, and fwiw the same advice goes for trying to get windows computers to play nice with each other :)]
[09:44] <paulproteus> lJlolel: Well, you could try configuring grub. :)
[09:44] <jaramillo> how do i install gl headers ? ;o
[09:44] <jaramillo> whats the name of the package
[09:44] <chris_unfalterin> I'm having trouble getting my Averatec 5400 laptop to run the Ubuntu install CD.
[09:45] <chris_unfalterin> Is this the wrong place to ask?
[09:45] <lJlolel> paulproteus, it had windows xp as a drive, but when i select it , it says drive type unknown or something
[09:45] <gigaclon> no
[09:45] <nerdy2> [actually even better advice for getting windows computers to play nice with each other is to install a samba machine on the same lan and mess around with the parameters so that they defer to it for everything]
[09:45] <GoClick> nerdy2, I did reboot both machines, it's been doing this for days :(
[09:45] <lJlolel> paulproteus, shit, install-mbr failed: system may not be bootable...
[09:45] <chris_unfalterin> anyone?
[09:45] <janne__> Help needed...Can u tell me where i get libbluecurve.so
[09:46] <nerdy2> GoClick: hmm, smbclient has a debuglevel parameter
[09:46] <paulproteus> chris_unfalterin: Be more specific about your problem.
[09:46] <lJlolel> paulproteus, okay, fixed, nowi'm restarting, if it doesn't boot i can always boot from disk right?
[09:46] <nerdy2> GoClick: so try it with -d 5 or -d 10 ...
[09:46] <janne__> synaptic: check! Repositors: some missing?
[09:46] <paulproteus> lJlolel: Yeah, e.g. the Live CD.
[09:46] <GoClick> nerdy2,  what would I type in?
[09:46] <lJlolel> paulproteus, thanks, seeya
[09:47] <crimsun> janne__, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libbluecurve.so&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=hoary&arch=i386
[09:47] <nerdy2> GoClick: sorry 5 is too high :),   try "smbclient -d 3  [service] "
[09:47] <GoClick> What do you mean by [service]  ?
[09:47] <chris_unfalterin> paulproteus:  I had XP installed on my Averatec 5400 laptop.  I removed the hard drive, put it in an external adapter, and formatted it completely with another laptop running Ubuntu.  Now the 5400 won't boot from either the Ubuntu install CD, or an XP install CD.
[09:47] <poningru> guys question
[09:47] <nerdy2> where service is something like \\computer\share      (put quotes around it to escape \ for the shell)
[09:48] <poningru> is firefox 1.5 going to make it into hoary?
[09:48] <nerdy2> sorry, where [service]  is that ...
[09:48] <poningru> cause its going to be released in 2.0
[09:48] <poningru> err september
[09:48] <chris_unfalterin> (of course, I reinserted the HDD into the 5400 first)
[09:48] <dennis_> Is there a way to play .wmv files in ubuntu?
[09:48] <nerdy2> (smbclient -d 3 "\\computer\share")
[09:48] <dennis_> Totem plays the sound just not the video
[09:48] <nerdy2> dennis_: try totem-xine
[09:48] <poningru> dennis_: package: totem-xine
[09:48] <dennis_> k
[09:49] <janne__> ok...i found it....
[09:49] <Doonz> whats the command to link a folder to another folder?
[09:49] <janne__> Thanks!
[09:49] <nerdy2> Doonz: ln
[09:49] <spola> Doonz, make a soft link, ln -s
[09:49] <Doonz> ln dir dir
[09:49] <Hikaru79> I'm on the breezy livecd and it seems to be missing the Nautilus "Open Terminal Here" right-click menu entry ... this WILL be in the actual Breezy install, right? Since I found it uber-useful!!
[09:49] <chris_unfalterin> Does anyone have any ideas?
[09:49] <Doonz> and how do i make that link permenant
[09:49] <nerdy2> Doonz: ln -s dir dir
[09:50] <spola> chris_unfalterin, what does the laptop say? just blank screen? any errors at all?
[09:50] <GoClick> nerdy2, what do I put for [service]  the server is ninja the workgroup is saleient
[09:50] <GoClick> I did \\ninja\ and didn't get anything
[09:50] <nerdy2> Doonz: that link will be permanent (it will persist until you delete the link)  --   (however if you delete the original directory that will break the link)
[09:51] <GoClick> noah@babyninja:/var/log$ smbclient -d 3 \\ninja\noah\
[09:51] <GoClick> >
[09:51] <poningru> chris_unfalterin: what file system did you format it as?
[09:51] <chris_unfalterin> OK, it is blank, except for a blinkin underscore at the top left.  The CD drive makes an odd sound (I know it works, though!) a bunch of times, then gives up, and it says at the top left, "Operating System not found"
[09:51] <chris_unfalterin> I left it completely unpartitioned
[09:51] <poningru> chris_unfalterin: thats because it doesnt have an operating system
[09:51] <nerdy2> GoClick: quote it,   "\\ninja\noah\"
[09:51] <chris_unfalterin> right...
[09:52] <dennis_> well
[09:52] <dennis_> the xine thing didn't work
[09:52] <dennis_> :/
[09:52] <poningru> you sure you did put an install cd in?
[09:52] <dennis_> It opens the file and then closes it
[09:52] <GoClick> nerdy2, I still get a >
[09:52] <Doonz> sweet thnx guys
[09:52] <chris_unfalterin> but the ubuntu/xp CDs should boot w/ or w/o OS
[09:52] <nerdy2> dennis_: it will,  you should also install w32codecs
[09:52] <dennis_> I already did
[09:52] <dennis_> ;?
[09:52] <nerdy2> oh ok
[09:52] <dennis_> A while ago
[09:52] <dennis_> I think xine fucked everything up :/
[09:52] <poningru> chris_unfalterin: you sure the cdrom is supposed to be checked for boot?
[09:52] <poningru> check the bios
[09:52] <poningru> make sure the cdrom is before the hd
[09:53] <GoClick> noah@babyninja:/var/log$ noahsmbclient -d 3 "\\ninja\noah\"
[09:53] <GoClick> >
[09:53] <chris_unfalterin> poningru: boot order: CD --> HDD --> external device
[09:53] <poningru> then it has to be either a bad cd or a bad cd drive
[09:53] <lJlolel> paulproteus, okay, grub was still there (even though i removed it) lilo wasnt, even thoughi wrote to mbr....
[09:53] <poningru> since you tried xp install cd and an ubuntu install cd
[09:53] <poningru> I would say that its a bad cd driver
[09:53] <chris_unfalterin> poningru: the CD drive is good, I'm absolutely positive.  And I have a stack of ten ubuntu cds...none work'
[09:54] <nerdy2> dennis_: hmm, totem-xine + w32codecs should work   [i've got that here]        [there is an alternative of messing with pitfdll + totem-gstreamer but that's not for mortals :)]
[09:54] <paulproteus> lJlolel: Okay, good, I guess.
[09:54] <lJlolel> paulproteus, i'm just going to change BIOS boot order when i want to switch drives
[09:54] <dennis_> :/
[09:54] <dennis_> Well I have all the w32 codecs
[09:54] <dennis_> and just installed totem-xine
[09:54] <dennis_> And totem won't play it
[09:54] <paulproteus> dennis_: Did you quit and reopen totem?
[09:54] <dennis_> Yes
[09:54] <poningru> chris_unfalterin: try a bootable cd like the live cd
[09:54] <poningru> or knoppix
[09:54] <dennis_> Now all totem does is open and close when I try and view that file
[09:54] <poningru> or system rescue
[09:55] <chris_unfalterin> poningru: both the XP and Ubuntu CDs worked on the laptop when I had an XP partition
[09:55] <nerdy2> GoClick: sorry the quoting is doing bad things,  try smbclient -d 3  \\\\ninja\\noah
[09:55] <nerdy2> GoClick: or smbclient -d 3 "\\ninja\noah"
[09:55] <chris_unfalterin> Should I pull the HDD out again, add three partitions (ntfs, swap, ext3), and try again?
[09:55] <poningru> chris_unfalterin: it may be as simple as a tiny dirt particle on the head
[09:56] <GoClick> nerdy2, that first one gave me some output, give me some time to read it
[09:56] <poningru> try a presurised air can on the cd head
[09:56] <chris_unfalterin> poningru: oh...ok, I'll try that.  I have been working lying on a carpet...
[09:56] <frogtone25> does anyone know where i can get a brushed metal color scheme for kde at
[09:57] <poningru> make sure to be extremely careful
[09:57] <frogtone25> kdelook.org doesnt have any
[09:57] <poningru> cause those things on a laptop are extremel flimsy
[09:57] <GoClick> nerdy2, it would seem that it doesn't like my username and password combo however it's the combo I use to logon to this machine and the windows machine
[09:57] <nerdy2> GoClick: try it in uppercase
[09:57] <chris_unfalterin> poningru:oh?
[09:58] <GoClick> nerdy2,  which part? my username and password are both all lowercase (both machines)
[09:58] <poningru> yeah the cd drive if its a pull out then is flimsy
[09:58] <nalioth> frogtone25: kde-art.com, i believe
[09:58] <poningru> atleast mine is, compaq 2140
[09:58] <poningru> and I treat it like a baby
[09:58] <leonel> I'm sad !    Mono will be on  Ubuntu Breezy
[09:58] <nerdy2> GoClick: try uppercasing the password, sorry
[09:59] <lJlolel> is it bad to change the BIOS settings many times?
[09:59] <GoClick> nerdy2,  fails
[09:59] <nerdy2> GoClick: ok, that shouldn't have had any effect anyways
[09:59] <poningru> leonel: and thats bad because?
[09:59] <chris_unfalterin> poningru: ok i dusted the laser head and that's not it
[09:59] <leonel> poningru, it's mono  and mono it's a big mistake on free software
[09:59] <GoClick> Well this is infuriating
[10:00] <GoClick> It's not like I don't have access to my own home dir either :P
[10:00] <frogtone25> there is no kde-art.com
[10:00] <GoClick> nerdy2, would you mind posting your sources.list file to the pastebin for me?
[10:00] <poningru> chris_unfalterin: you sure the cds are not dirty or anything?
[10:00] <nalioth> frogtone25: kde-look.com (i dont run kde)
[10:00] <chris_unfalterin> poningru:  Will any install CD, XP/Ubuntu/whatever, not work if the HDD is completely formatted (ie no partitions)?
[10:01] <spola> chris_unfalterin, nah that won't have any effect
[10:01] <frogtone25> kdelook.com doesnt have a brushed metal color scheme
[10:01] <poningru> it should not matter
[10:01] <poningru> curses I have a class right now
[10:01] <poningru> chris_unfalterin: sorry dude I am out of ideas
[10:01] <poningru> just for fun try system rescue cd
[10:01] <poningru> google it
[10:01] <nerdy2> GoClick: i don't really have anything interesting,  the only interesting line is "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe
[10:01] <nerdy2> "      (and i have a sister deb-src line for that, and the apt repo for w32codecs)
[10:01] <chris_unfalterin> poningru: Because when I had an XP partition, before I started all of this dualboot business, the bott disks worked fine
[10:01] <GoClick> nerdy2, no it's just my file is mangled
[10:02] <selinium> Hi,  Seveas. You were going to help with my first compile last night. Any chance you could have a look know?
[10:02] <chris_unfalterin> OK, thanks anyhow.  Can anyone else help?
[10:02] <GoClick> nerdy2, and for some reason I can't get extras either which is bad because I need Java :P
[10:02] <selinium> now*
[10:02] <spola> chris_unfalterin, so if i understand then stuff stopped working after you opened it to take out the hd?
[10:03] <selinium> HI all, anyone here got bluetooth working?
[10:03] <spola> maybe you fubar'd it
[10:04] <LokeDK> Hi. How do I remove kde and its packages? i just installed kde .. and not kubuntu-desktop
[10:04] <GoClick> Could SOMEBODY who has the horay-extras post their /etc/apt/sources.list file to the pasebin at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ so I can fix mine?
[10:04] <nerdy2> GoClick: well i don't have the extras in mine
[10:04] <Hikaru79> LokeDK, just install kubuntu-desktop over it. It will skip kde because it's already installed. No worries :)
[10:04] <chris_unfalterin> I took out the HD, made it external with a USB adapter, and was able to read files, etc. on another Ubuntu laptop
[10:04] <nerdy2> GoClick: and i don't know how to use the pastebin :),  but my sources.list is at http://jgarrett.org/sources.list
[10:04] <GoClick> nerdy2, ok, think I should uninstall and reinstall samba?
[10:04] <selinium> !tell GoClick about repos
[10:05] <chris_unfalterin> then i formatted it while external, and replaced it within the 5400
[10:05] <nerdy2> GoClick: doubtful that will help
[10:05] <spola> lol, doesn't know how to use the pastebin but can publish the data on a http server
[10:05] <LokeDK> Hikaru79, but I want to get rid of it.. not get kubuntu-desktop.. because i prefer xfce
[10:05] <GoClick> selinium, yes very nice thank you I've read it, that doesn't fix the fact that someone mangled my file
[10:05] <selinium> GoClick: the official list can be found there
[10:05] <selinium> GoClick: Have you read the info?
[10:06] <selinium> GoClick: The http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 bit?
[10:06] <GoClick> Man I wish this DNS weren't so slow
[10:07] <GoClick> Thank you selinium
[10:07] <selinium> GoClick: np
[10:07] <_adam> Does kubuntu have issues with 64bit?
[10:07] <_adam> Cause I keep getting lockups
[10:07] <_adam> primarily when I'm online, everything freezes except for the mouse
[10:08] <GoClick> _adam,  I don't use it myself I'm an i386 GNOME man myself but I've heard a few people complain about lockups with KDE on 64 so it's a possability
[10:09] <nalioth> chris_unfalterin: sounds like you may have other hardware trouble
[10:09] <user01> what males ubuntu better then slack for eg?
[10:09] <jasoncohen> what's the difference between flashplayer-mozilla and flashplugin-nonfree. I have flashplugin-nonfree installed and flash works. don't both packages provide flash?
[10:10] <Ignignokt> hello, i am new to the whol linux scene, and i am wondering if it is possible to play .wmv , for i cannot seem to get any to work
[10:10] <GoClick> I added the horay-extras repo refreshed my list and searched for j2re and got no packages
[10:10] <nalioth> jasoncohen: what does "apt-cache showpkg" tell about each one?
[10:10] <selinium> jasoncohen: nonfree is from Macromedia and is not open source. Flashplayer is open source
[10:10] <twibbler> anybody help trying to get skype working and it is a problem with esd when changed as per ns on wiki I get this message when testing sound ...Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'
[10:11] <user01> to GoClick dnld all from www.sun.com
[10:11] <GoClick> user01, is it hard to install? I'm just getting into Linux, and I need my boss to be able to replicate the setup later
[10:11] <jasoncohen> selinium, then why are they bothin multiverse?
[10:11] <GoClick> user01, plus what worries me is that if it can't find it now doesn't that mean it's not searching the extras?
[10:12] <chris_unfalterin> ok, i'm going to externalize it again, hook it up to this ubuntu laptop i'm using, reformat, and re-internalize
[10:12] <jasoncohen> selinium, if flashplayer-mozilla is open source it should be in main or universe- not multiverse
[10:12] <chris_unfalterin> cheerio.  I'll probably be back,
[10:12] <durt> !java
[10:12] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[10:13] <GoClick> durt,  I've read it, I've added horay-extras and refreshed my lists and then I search for jre and sun- and get NO packages
[10:14] <jasoncohen> GoClick, search for j2re
[10:14] <jasoncohen> GoClick, sun-j2re1.5
[10:14] <selinium> GoClick look at http://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/    or apply http://blackbird.kaarsemaker.net/ ./ to your sources.list
[10:14] <GoClick> jasoncohen, done, no packages
[10:14] <jasoncohen> GoClick, then you haven't added hoary-extras or you didn't reload
[10:14] <durt> GoClick: its not in extras anymore, but you can find it at seveas... something let me check
[10:14] <selinium> GoClick:  :)
[10:14] <jasoncohen> durt, it's still in extras
[10:15] <GoClick> jasoncohen, I have and I have would you like me to take a screenshot, :P
[10:15] <jasoncohen> sorry, not extras
[10:15] <jasoncohen> it's in backports
[10:15] <LasseL> i got my java from backports
[10:15] <GoClick> durt, then shouldn't someone update the wiki?
[10:15] <jasoncohen> GoClick, sorry, you need to install from backports
[10:16] <chris_unfalterin> Is anyone here an official Ubuntu developer (ie hired by Canonical)
[10:16] <GoClick> selinium, how do I add that reposatory, what's the line?
[10:16] <LasseL> *someone* is always you :)
[10:16] <LasseL> !backports
[10:16] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[10:16] <selinium> GoClick: Through Synaptic or through an editor?
[10:16] <GoClick> selinium, either or
[10:16] <jasoncohen> GoClick, once you add it , you probably want to disable backports
[10:16] <Ignignokt> where can i find the w32 codecs at?
[10:16] <Frafra> hi all
[10:17] <jasoncohen> or you won't get security updates for gaim and other packages
[10:17] <jasoncohen> Ignignokt, it's in hoary-extras
[10:17] <jasoncohen> !tell Ignignokt about multimedia repositories
[10:17] <selinium> GoClick: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:17] <jasoncohen> !tell Ignignokt about multimedia
[10:17] <chris_unfalterin> Again, Is anyone here an official Ubuntu developer (ie hired by Canonical)?  I must give my mad props.
[10:17] <Ignignokt> k ty, mad eprops
[10:17] <LasseL> jasoncohen, you what?
[10:17] <Ignignokt> im new to the whole linux scene.
[10:18] <Frafra> i need to download build-essential package and him dependency because i must install it on a pc that haven't a internet connection. what i should do?
[10:18] <chris_unfalterin> Ignignokt: you develop for Ubuntu?
[10:18] <GoClick> selinium, done
[10:18] <LasseL> jasoncohen, you don't get security updates if you have backports enabled??
[10:19] <rebug> can ubuntu read ufs2 disks?
[10:20] <hussam> if I uninstall firestarter + dpkg --purge firestarter, I should still be protected but Iptables firewall?
[10:20] <chris_unfalterin> I LOVE UBUNTU!!!
[10:20] <durt> heres where i got java: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:20] <jasoncohen> LasseL, you won't get security updates for backport packages
[10:21] <rebug> i'm considering installing ubuntu 5.04 over a freebsd 5 install, but need to know if my ufs2 formatted disks will be available
[10:21] <jasoncohen> LasseL, for example, if you install firefox and gaim from backports when a security update comes out for hoary, you won't get it
[10:21] <user01> WHAT MAKES UBUNTU SO GOOD I SAY SLACK BETTER!
[10:21] <nightswim> it's the users that use a lot of caps that makes slack crap
[10:21] <jasoncohen> LasseL, that's because backports has newer packages from breezy (which you generall don't need). I only use backports if there's a package that's not available in hoary like smeg
[10:21] <nalioth> hussam: without iptables, your box will not work. so firestarter is just a frontend to manipulate them
[10:21] <spola> user01, then use slack, this ain't the inquisition y'know
[10:21] <user01> Ubuntu sucks distro really....confesss it.
[10:22] <chris_unfalterin> does anyone know why gparted might hang while I mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1/ ?
[10:22] <user01> because ubuntu is a mess
[10:22] <rebug> nobody expects choice in their linux distributions!
[10:22] <jasoncohen> LasseL, for example backports has gaim 1.40 from breezy and hoary has 1.1.4 but hoary's 1.14 has all the security patches through gaim 1.5. backport's 1.4 is vulnerable to several DoS's
[10:22] <chris_unfalterin> rebug: ???
[10:23] <chris_unfalterin> I repeat: does anyone know why gparted might hang while I mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1/ ?
[10:23] <user01> yeah...ok folks I'm leaving your kindergarden
[10:23] <zer0`> it asks for username and pass when i try to get java jre from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[10:23] <melodie_> :quit
[10:23] <spola> you'll be missed </sarcasm>
[10:23] <LasseL> jasoncohen, what a mess
[10:23] <jasoncohen> so, blackdown java can be packaged by ubuntu but not the official java package?
[10:23] <jasoncohen> LasseL, well, my recommendation is just not to use backports unless you need it
[10:24] <crimsun> heh
[10:24] <jasoncohen> LasseL, there are very few packages that you would really need from backports. Once you have them, you can disable it
[10:24] <rebug> chris_unfalterin: amongst our weaponry are such elements as fear, surprise, etc...
[10:24] <LasseL> jasoncohen, I see, I just hate to have to think about it
[10:24] <Frafra> excuseme, if i want install build-essential, what packages i need?
[10:24] <crimsun> Frafra, just build-essential
[10:25] <andydavid> join #ubuntu-es
[10:25] <jasoncohen> LasseL, this won't really be an issue with breezy. Breezy will include smeg and several other packages currently missing from hoary obviating the need for backports
[10:25] <Frafra> crimsun: build-install want gcc ecc.. i must download all the packages that it want, because i must install they on a pc with no internet connection
[10:25] <andydavid> join #ubuntu-es
[10:25] <jasoncohen> LasseL, and remember, backports isn't enabled by default. You have to enable it yourself
[10:25] <andydavid> join # ubuntu-es
[10:25] <LasseL> jasoncohen, but not a proper version i java i bet
[10:25] <andydavid> join#ubuntu-es
[10:26] <jasoncohen> LasseL, breezy will include blackdown java 1.4 in multiverse
[10:26] <jasoncohen> which will work fine
[10:26] <jasoncohen> and you can always build java from java-package or use backports for java. there are many options
[10:26] <crimsun> Frafra, apt-cache depends build-essential
[10:26] <chris_unfalterin> How should i best partition my external hard drive with gparted?
[10:26] <jasoncohen> i installed java from backports and then disabled it
[10:26] <chris_unfalterin> My goal is to dual-boot XP and Ubuntu.
[10:27] <jasoncohen> if you think this is bad look at fedora. Ubuntu has over 16,000 packages- nearly everything you might want. There's very little need for backports
[10:27] <adriyel__> chris_unfalterin, have you succeeded in your goal?
[10:27] <LasseL> jasoncohen, i am a java developer so i just hate to think about people running with old and slow versions with possible incompatabilities :)
[10:27] <chris_unfalterin> which is that?
[10:28] <adriyel__> jasoncohen, not quite caught up with portage though <--- gentoo user
[10:28] <adriyel__> I still like Ubuntu's repository though :)
[10:28] <LasseL> adriyel__, i will catch up with gentoo before you are done compiling :p
[10:28] <zer0`> is this the line for installing java    deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[10:28] <adriyel__> LasseL, dual core, already done compiling
[10:28] <chris_unfalterin> which goal, adriyel?
[10:28] <spola> chris_unfalterin, i'd take one part for xp, one for /home, one swap (twice yr ram) and a 20G for installing ubuntu on
[10:29] <rrm3> linux-header-2.5.10-5-386 contains a 'scripts' link that does not work!  I need that directory to compile madwifi.  Anyone been through this already?
[10:29] <adriyel__> LasseL, in all seriousness, if you have a 64bit AMD, the compile/installation times are NOT that bad
[10:29] <spola> home on a diffrent partition WILL save your ass sooner or later
[10:29] <adriyel__> chris_unfalterin, the goal of dual booting
[10:29] <chris_unfalterin> what is /home?
[10:29] <spola> it's like my documents, each user has a subdirectory in it
[10:29] <adriyel__> your home directory storing the files/documents of each user
[10:29] <adriyel__> such as, /home/adriyel
[10:29] <chris_unfalterin> ok, will ubuntu automaticall mount /home?
[10:29] <adriyel__> the home directory for root is /root
[10:29] <spola> it's the only place where files that don't belong to root should reside
[10:30] <adriyel__> chris_unfalterin, don't worry about it, everything is taken care of by Ubuntu if you don't screw with it
[10:30] <LasseL> adriyel__, I have been running gentoo for the last 2.5 years and I know the drill. I am sick of it
[10:30] <adriyel__> LasseL, This is why my main distro's are Slack + slapt-get and Ubuntu
[10:30] <chris_unfalterin> oh....i have been using /home
[10:30] <adriyel__> you DO know that portage provides precompiled binaries over the net right?
[10:31] <spola> chris_unfalterin, you can edit /etc/fstab when you're done and then it to auto mount
[10:31] <chris_unfalterin> on this laptop, but i d idn't kmnow it was its own directory
[10:31] <chris_unfalterin> *partition
[10:31] <LasseL> adriyel__, booting into gentoo was like going to work (and a boring version of that), booting into ubuntu made me scrap windows within a week :)
[10:31] <zer0`> is this the line for installing java    deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[10:31] <chris_unfalterin> ok, so is this correct:
[10:32] <chris_unfalterin> XP - ntfs.  Ubuntu - ext3.  Swap (2x RAM) - linux-swap.
[10:32] <adriyel__> LasseL, after the installation Gentoo's not that bad, particularly if you have portage use precompiled binaries. The inherent problem here is that I am a speed-nut. So, when Yoper's new version comes out I will likely check that out
[10:32] <adriyel__> I use ubuntu 64
[10:32] <adriyel__> I use Slack10.1 and slamd64, depending on my mood
[10:33] <durt> slack is quite impressive
[10:33] <adriyel__> chris_unfalterin, I use reiserfs for my format, I find ext3 to be bleh.
[10:33] <adriyel__> durt, slack was my first love.
[10:33] <hondje> Mine was a girl
[10:33] <chris_unfalterin> what's the dif?\
[10:33] <adriyel__> slackware/gentoo combined taught me a LOT about Linux
[10:33] <LasseL> adriyel__, i never had gentoo work half as well as the default ubuntu install even though i spent countless hours tweaking it
[10:33] <spola> chris_unfalterin, if you leave space open on your hd you can always add a seperate /home later
[10:34] <spola> i think the nicest thing about reiserfs is that you can resize it
[10:34] <adriyel__> LasseL, I don't deny that. But I wish Slackware would come out with an official tweaked 64-bit version, the reason I use slamd64
[10:34] <spola> LasseL, same here, same here
[10:34] <chris_unfalterin> why is reiserfs preferable to ext3?  What is the difference?
[10:34] <adriyel__> reiserfs in my experience is more adaptable, stable, and faster
[10:34] <chris_unfalterin> ok...
[10:34] <adriyel__> there is no loss to using reiserfs, to my knowledge
[10:34] <spola> ext3 is also rock stable
[10:34] <Deter[ZZzzZZz] > nn guys, enjoy your weekends :D
[10:35] <GoClick> Seveas, would I be able to get a password from you so that I could download java?
[10:35] <adriyel__> I guess some people are just stuck on ext3
[10:35] <chris_unfalterin> ???
[10:35] <LasseL> chris_unfalterin, you can read and write ext3 from windows
[10:35] <adriyel__> wtf? @ lassel
[10:35] <adriyel__> you can?
[10:35] <chris_unfalterin> ext3/reiserfs ???
[10:35] <chris_unfalterin> really?
[10:35] <LasseL> chris_unfalterin, well I read that anyways .. let me google it
[10:35] <chris_unfalterin> that's sweet, esp. since i'm dual-booting
[10:35] <adriyel__> I'd suggest ReiserFS, personally. (don't use Reiser4, its still being dev'ed heavily)
[10:35] <Malin`> can anyone do "apt-cache search teamspeak" and tell me if there's a result?
[10:35] <spola> i dunno about writing, but i have a proggie to read from ext2/3
[10:35] <nerdy2> adriyel__: ext3 is based on ext2, which is readable/writable from windows
[10:35] <rox__> i need help guys, none of my xvids will play
[10:36] <adriyel__> LasseL why in the Lord's name would Windows support a Linux partition format?
[10:36] <nalioth> adriyel__: search ext2fs at sourceforge.net
[10:36] <rox__> it keeps sayig the file is empty but i know its not
[10:36] <adriyel__> nerdy2, ahhh. secondary piece of software and @ nalioth
[10:36] <LasseL> adriyel__, windows has pluggable filesystems too
[10:36] <adriyel__> nerdy2, ext3 is the same as ext2, it just has journaling
[10:36] <rox__> anyone, i dont have internet for very long, please help
[10:36] <nerdy2> adriyel__: nothing can be done with windows alone, everything's secondary
[10:36] <adriyel__> nerdy2, I know this. thank you
[10:37] <adriyel__> nerdy2, thats why I use Linux, except for games
[10:37] <chris_unfalterin> so.... ext3 can be read from xp
[10:37] <adriyel__> Linux meowbox 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic #1 Tue Apr 5 12:21:57 UTC 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:37] <nerdy2> adriyel__: tried battle for wesnoth? :)
[10:37] <chris_unfalterin> wo i should use it for dualboot
[10:37] <adriyel__> chris_unfalterin, only if you install 3rd party software, and I don't know how stable that is
[10:37] <nerv99> hello
[10:37] <chris_unfalterin> *so
[10:37] <adriyel__> nerdy2, I play games that require skill, sorry.
[10:37] <rox__> my avi files wont play, vlc says the file is empty but its not empty
[10:37] <spola> i just decided to stop playiing games, except for Enemy territory
[10:37] <janne__> hi...!
[10:37] <rox__> i've used them before
[10:37] <rox__> my avi files wont play, vlc says the file is empty but its not empty
[10:37] <adriyel__> <--- semi-pro/competitive gamer, I don't accept 40-50% performance from Linux
[10:37] <spola> ET > *
[10:38] <rox__> i've watched the xvid before on the same player
[10:38] <rox__> and now there's nothing
[10:38] <adriyel__> yes, I have doom3 installed, no it doesn't run how it should on my 6800GT
[10:38] <LasseL> nerdy2, i just tried BfW but i got my ass kicked at the FIRST map
[10:38] <LasseL> chris_unfalterin, http://www.fs-driver.org/faq.html
[10:38] <janne__> I got some basic problem: How i uninstall/remove .run -files? (game etc...)
[10:38] <GoClick> I still can't get SAMBA to authenticate properly, I just did a fresh install of it from Synaptic and I tried to connect to it and it won't accept my username and password (which is the same on Windows and on Ubuntu)
[10:38] <rox__> need help, anyone, my avi files wont play, vlc says the file is empty but its not empty... i wont have internet very long
[10:38] <adriyel__> chris_unfalterin, do you have ANY reason to be writing to your Linux partition from windows? it requires 3rd party software, which may or may not have bugs
[10:38] <rox__> i need help if anyone can offer it
[10:39] <rox__> quickly before my cable loses connection again
[10:39] <LasseL> adriyel__, FUD
[10:39] <adriyel__> rox__, don't repeat yourself, somehow I have the feeling the PEBKAC
[10:39] <chris_unfalterin> It would be nice to access Linux documents/files from XP and vice-versa
[10:39] <spola> i once talked to this guy he always EOF'd if someone said 'fuck'
[10:39] <adriyel__> in which case use Ext3 @ chris_unfalterin
[10:39] <spola> he had some kind of cyber sitter or something it was hilarious
[10:40] <black13> can build a new kernel 2.6 cause the creation of an initial ram disk initrd.img as a by product?
[10:40] <adriyel__> you'll still be able to access Windows from linux, if you use reiser, you just won't be able to do the reverse
[10:40] <jayparadise> chris_unfalterin, try crossover office
[10:40] <nalioth> adriyel__: 3d party is not the point. ext2fs runs on windows! that should say it all
[10:40] <chris_unfalterin> but that reqs 3rd-p software...
[10:40] <knowledge_> how can I rebuild dependancies?
[10:40] <janne__> How can uninstall .run file programs?
[10:40] <jayparadise> it supports certain propietary apps
[10:40] <mjr> janne__, basically by hand
[10:40] <rox__> adriyel__, if you're going to be helpful, please dont respond to me
[10:40] <adriyel__> nalioth, I have no purpose for gimping the speed of my Linux partiton just so windows can read it. Repeat: I only use Windows for games, all I have installed is Win32/ overclocking software, games, and DX9.0c
[10:40] <rox__> if you're not*
[10:41] <chris_unfalterin> ok, so i can go back and forth between XP and Ubuntu, w/o any mods...?
[10:41] <janne__> oh...folder and some?
[10:41] <adriyel__> rox__, watch the mouth, I was asking you not to repeat yourself, if noone has answered, try #ubuntu-devel, even though they'll prolly redirect you to here
[10:41] <adriyel__> additionally, setting an ultimatum/deadline OMG CABLE GOING OUT, won't make anyone respond faster
[10:41] <adriyel__> some people have already commented on your problem
[10:41] <cyphase> anyone know of a web based ssh system that i can install on my server?
[10:42] <rox__> watch my mouth how? did i curse? i just asked you not to talk to me if you can't be helpful, im putting you on ignore i dont need your attitude, thanks!
[10:42] <adriyel__> but you were too busy pecking away saying, XVID BROKEN CABLE GOING AWAY CRY CRY
[10:42] <adriyel__> to notice
[10:42] <selinium> cyphase: sshd?
[10:42] <adriyel__> watch your mouth as in sass.
[10:42] <adriyel__> not cursing.
[10:42] <spola> cyphase, web based ssh ??? what excactly do you want cause this makes little sense to me
[10:42] <LasseL> rox__, try some other players
[10:42] <rox__> you should do the same
[10:42] <adriyel__> right, anyways.
[10:42] <LasseL> rox__, totem, mplayer, gxine
[10:42] <rox__> thanks lassel, i tried mplayer totem xine
[10:42] <rox__> vlce
[10:42] <adriyel__> install gstreamer plugins
[10:42] <rox__> vlc
[10:42] <adriyel__> first.
[10:42] <rox__> already did sdriyel
[10:42] <rox__> first thing i did
[10:42] <adriyel__> then the problem is not the player
[10:42] <cyphase> spola, a web based client i can install on a server that will let me log onto ssh
[10:42] <rox__> when i first loaded ubuntu
[10:43] <nalioth> adriyel__: my point was: do you want a windows driven file system tool mucking about on your linux partition? (i dont)
[10:43] <rox__> but i've seen these episodes before but they wont open anymore
[10:43] <adriyel__> how were these xvids downloaded?
[10:43] <rox__> torrent
[10:43] <adriyel__> nalioth, that was exactly my point that I was trying to make
[10:43] <deprave> now now kids, i'll send you to bed without any dessert.
[10:43] <adriyel__> nalioth, nerdy2 tried to say that that point was invalid, however
[10:43] <adriyel__> rox__, you dumbass, the files ARE empty
[10:43] <twibbler> get error message can't connect to aRts soundserver anybody help for I thought I had installed the required package ..
[10:43] <rox__> they are not empty
[10:43] <adriyel__> bit torrent preallocates the space, making the file look full, when it might actually not have been downloaded
[10:44] <adriyel__> try again. check the binary
[10:44] <rox__> i've watched the episodes before
[10:44] <spola> cyphase, i think you'll want to google for a java applet
[10:44] <adriyel__> ok, and what if the connection failed and all it did was preallocate the space?
[10:44] <deprave> are you jonesing for some anime bukkake!?
[10:44] <adriyel__> then you have an empty file taking up space
[10:44] <adriyel__> gg.
[10:44] <rox__> i've seen the episodes before
[10:44] <deprave> rox__: that particular ep?
[10:44] <adriyel__> you've already said that rox__
[10:44] <rox__> yes
[10:44] <deprave> the same file?
[10:44] <rox__> yes deprave
[10:44] <rox__> the exact same one
[10:44] <adriyel__> and under what conditions did it function?
[10:44] <jayparadise> wins ps3 supposed to come out?
[10:44] <deprave> THEN IT'S A RERUN
[10:45] <rox__> i've tried about five of them
[10:45] <adriyel__> repeat/emulate/imitate those functions
[10:45] <chris_unfalterin> adriyel__: will it matter?  (using xp to read linuxfs)
[10:45] <LasseL> rox__, try this (again) http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[10:45] <deprave> rox__: what does it do?
[10:45] <cyphase> spola, i was looking for something besides a java applet..
[10:45] <cyphase> an AJAX client maybe..
[10:45] <rox__> let me go there lassel
[10:45] <adriyel__> chris_unfalterin, if you want the feature, install the package from sourceforge and use ext3. as nalioth said, I don't want to risk some windows program mucking up my fucking partition
[10:45] <rox__> when i open vlc in terminal
[10:45] <chris_unfalterin> ok.
[10:45] <rox__> it tells me that the file is empty
[10:46] <rox__> it tells me that twice then tells me it cannot access the directory
[10:46] <chris_unfalterin> now what about primary/extended?  which of my part'ns should be which?
[10:46] <spola> cyphase, hmm that would be pretty cool but i haven't heard of any of those ... i'd have a hard time believing some kid hasn't hacked it together on ruby on rails tho
[10:46] <deprave> try a different application
[10:46] <adriyel__> the fact of the matter, is that most of the programs/programmers written on sourceforge are amateurs and youngsters, not necessarily a bad thing in most cases, and not necessarily true either (gaim is on sourceforge, very well dev'ed), however, something as critical as my data isn't about to be managed by A. Windows, B. a 3rd party windows app, C. an app made by someone who didn't make windows
[10:47] <cyphase> spola, i would do it, but i don't have the time :(
[10:47] <spola> i'll do it if you pay me :p
[10:47] <cyphase> although it isn't all bad, seeing as i don't have time because of a cool project :)
[10:47] <rox__> deprave, i've tried vlc, mplayer, xine and totem
[10:48] <n1xt3r_> adriyel__: the best software in life is free :)
[10:48] <deprave> permissions ok etc? did you download it from torrent?
[10:48] <rox__> yep downloaded from torrent
[10:48] <rox__> after it was done
[10:48] <chris_unfalterin> now what about primary/extended?  which of my partitions should be which?
[10:48] <rox__> i double-checked episodes 3-5-6 to be sure they worked
[10:48] <rox__> and they did
[10:48] <rox__> and now, not working...
[10:48] <Frafra> what i must do for install ati proprietary driver?
[10:49] <crimsun> Frafra, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:49] <Frafra> thx
[10:50] <_ubuntu504> hi
[10:50] <nalioth> chris_unfalterin: most intel boxen can only see 4 primary partitions
[10:50] <_ubuntu504> I have some questions
[10:50] <Prower> Hmm...something weird is going on, I'm getting messages from half of those people dropping in and out
[10:50] <_ubuntu504> has anyone used ubuntu with the NF7-s rv 2 motherboard?
[10:50] <spola> hmm, im under attack???
[10:51] <mustafu> heh, same here
[10:51] <chris_unfalterin> nalioth: ok, i just need 3 partns. (XP,swap,ubuntu)
[10:51] <nalioth> chris_unfalterin: so i'd suggest 1 primary, and one logical (with as many as 16 partitions inside it)
[10:51] <spola> FUCKERS ARE ATTACKING #UBUNTU THATS MAKIN IT PERSONAL
[10:51] <rebug> silliness
[10:51] <apokryphos> There were major Freenode innovations today with a primary server
[10:51] <mustafu> heh, this isn't EFNet, calm down
[10:51] <apokryphos> I doubt it's anything malicious
[10:51] <_ubuntu504> why are people pming me?
[10:51] <nalioth> Seveas: onjoins
[10:51] <chris_unfalterin> What is happening?
[10:52] <chris_unfalterin> What is happening?
[10:52] <_ubuntu504> I want to shwitch to ubuntu sooo bad...
[10:52] <nalioth> chris_unfalterin: some script kiddie is playing
[10:52] <_ubuntu504> so I want to knkow if anyone has had any luck with this hardware
[10:52] <Frafra> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/misc/xorg-driver-fglrx <= i can't download it. 404 error
[10:52] <chris_unfalterin> doing what? (new to irc)
[10:52] <TTilus> looks like everybody else is getting empty private messages from random people
[10:52] <TTilus> ..too
[10:52] <Virtuall> what a stupidity
[10:53] <chris_unfalterin> ttilus: yah that is happening to me
[10:53] <Virtuall> clonebots ;( hate the idiots that do that
[10:53] <TTilus> Virtuall: mm...  metoo
[10:53] <_ubuntu504> ubuntu NF7-srv2 MB, SATA HD, ATI Radeon, AMD ATH XP 2800
[10:53] <_ubuntu504> any bad in there for ubuntu?
[10:53] <chris_unfalterin> OK this stinks majorly.
[10:54] <Hoxzer> Ubuntu: I have heard it might be hard to find drivers for ati
[10:54] <_ubuntu504> really?
[10:54] <_ubuntu504> ubuntu comes with them
[10:54] <TTilus> Hoxzer: how come?
[10:54] <Hoxzer> I don't know so well
[10:54] <Hoxzer> I just heard
[10:54] <TTilus> Hoxzer: it wasn't to me
[10:54] <_ubuntu504> other than that?
[10:54] <NoUse> !ati
[10:54] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[10:54] <_ubuntu504> do I need a specian kernel for a AMD processor?
[10:54] <jayparadise> anyuone getting a lot of random nicks messaging empty messages?
[10:54] <Virtuall> ...hey motherf*r, if you hear me, f*k you!
[10:54] <Virtuall> jayparadise, everybody
[10:54] <paulproteus> jayparadise: Yes.
[10:55] <TTilus> johns^: everybody
[10:55] <paulproteus> jayparadise: They seem to all have been disconnected from FreeNode, those nicks.
[10:55] <TTilus> johns^: uups, sorry, malicious tab-completion
[10:55] <paulproteus> Apparently not all of them.
[10:55] <_ubuntu504> is there a special kernel for AMD ATHLON XP 2800+?
[10:55] <REBELinBLUE> hey
[10:56] <spola> it's probably microsoft !! :p
[10:56] <theplateau> i think one just tried to trick me into giving my nickserv password
[10:56] <nalioth> _ubuntu504: k7 or k8  i believe
[10:56] <REBELinBLUE> oya?
[10:56] <Virtuall> someone must die here
[10:56] <_ubuntu504> nalioth... I have had 10 cd's mailed to me
[10:57] <_ubuntu504> nalioth I think I got the i386 kernel
[10:57] <nalioth> _ubuntu504: then use the x86 disc for install and then worry about specific kernels
[10:57] <faddat> hmmmm
[10:57] <nalioth> !help
[10:57] <nalioth> !ops
[10:57] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!
[10:57] <_ubuntu504> naloith I am dialup... can't download and recompile a new kernal
[10:57] <lenny_> hello.  I have a question:  I am trying to add the jdk/bin directory I created to my path.  I added it to the path at the top of the /etc/profile file, but for some reason it is not appearing in my user path.  Can someone tell me what I have to do?
[10:57] <REBELinBLUE> anyone know why today when I plug in my iPod I can no longer use it? gtkpod just freezes, using both the USB and firewire connection on both my desktop and laptop
[10:58] <nalioth> _ubuntu504: the i386 will work well enough
[10:58] <faddat> anyone know of Wifi adapters (USB 802.11g, especially) that will work out-of-the-box with Ubuntu?
[10:58] <_ubuntu504> nalioth I didn't see a special version for AMD ATHLON
[10:58] <apokryphos> _ubuntu504: there isn't one
[10:58] <x[x] > .
[10:58] <apokryphos> _ubuntu504: but there is AMD-specific
[10:59] <nalioth> _ubuntu504: there are kernels for most every processor, the i386 will get you running nicely
[10:59] <Prower> It'd be nice if you could actually speak in #freenode to tell the ops about it :>
[10:59] <lenny_> why the hell are all these tabs appearing when I log in?
[10:59] <Prower> lenny_: The channel is being flooded by clonebots
[10:59] <Virtuall> may I say it in russian?  * ,  ,  !
[10:59] <_ubuntu504> this is running soo good on my PC
[10:59] <apokryphos> it is annoying, they should be banned at least temporarily (Freenode staff contacted etc)
[10:59] <apokryphos> !ops
[10:59] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia!
[10:59] <seamus> hello
[10:59] <_ubuntu504> I am in the ubuntu live cd right now
[10:59] <Prower> apokryphos: I tried to mention it in #freenode but it wouldn't go through
[11:00] <apokryphos> Prower: yes, you need to have voice especially
[11:00] <lenny_> f'n clone bot bastards
[11:00] <nalioth> clonebots are everywhere on freenode, it's not just us in here
[11:00] <apokryphos> Another case of where the ops aren't around :(
[11:00] <Virtuall> they're all from different IPs ;( must be open proxies
[11:00] <Prower> apokryphos: Ahh...must be another convenient #freenode policy to help users out, like the rest they've come up with lately ;>
[11:00] <jepeltw> just parted and they still continue
[11:00] <apokryphos> heh
[11:00] <TTilus> _ubuntu504: *-k6, *-k7 and *-k8 -packages are those amdies
[11:00] <funkyHat> guys, do /ignore *!*@* priv
[11:01] <faddat> So, yeah, anyone have reccomendations on a wifi product that will work gloriously with Ubuntu
[11:01] <sjg> uhg
[11:01] <sjg> freaking bots
[11:01] <sjg> die
[11:01] <selinium_> HI all, i appear to be very popular, I am having lots of peolple msg me. Is this some kind off IRC spam
[11:01] <Prower> selinium_: Ignore all private messages for now, it's a bot flood
[11:01] <inva|id> selinium_: it is bot spam
[11:01] <TTilus> selinium_: y
[11:02] <_ubuntu504> TTtilus are they big?
[11:02] <Prower> selenium_: /ignore *!*@* priv worked for me, thanks for whoever suggested it :>
[11:02] <Frafra> if i want a optimized kernel, i must install linux-image-2.6.10-5-[...]  and restricted-modules?
[11:02] <selinium_> Cheers guys.
[11:02] <TTilus> _ubuntu504: depends, talking about kernels or?
[11:02] <goldfish> jesus.
[11:02] <Juhaz> and /ignore #ubuntu JOINS PARTS will help for the channel flood
[11:02] <selinium_> funkyhat cheers for the pointer. How do I switch it back on later?
[11:02] <goldfish> indeed.
[11:02] <Juhaz> for irssi that is, xchat et all will have other options
[11:02] <TTilus> _ubuntu504: if i recall correct they are downloadable over dialup
[11:02] <funkyHat> selinim /unignore and then the same
[11:02] <afonit> thanks funkyhat
[11:03] <goldfish> gentoo and ubuntu being attack simultaneously
[11:03] <qt2> err, /mode +E yournick will get rid of all thoase pm's. ;)
[11:03] <goldfish> *attacked
[11:03] <_ubuntu504> TTilus it automatically used a special kernal for my motherboard
[11:03] <GoClick> Why do random nicks keep sending me black querys?
[11:03] <Prower> GoClick: Bot flood
[11:03] <nalioth> the clonebots are all ove freenode
[11:03] <_ubuntu504> TTilus a nvidia kernal
[11:03] <selinium_> funkyhat: cheers, what tw*t thinks that it takes some kind of genious to do that?
[11:03] <apokryphos> :/
[11:03] <GoClick> ah
[11:03] <Prower> Really ineffective bot flood at that :>
[11:04] <TTilus> _ubuntu504: umm... nvidia kernel?  can't tell
[11:04] <selinium_> GoClick:   /ignore *!*@* priv
[11:04] <Frafra> use /mode +E
[11:04] <lenny_> so, in order to add a path to all users who log into this machine.. what file do I edit?
[11:04] <Frafra> bah
[11:04] <lenny_> I'm trying to add /usr/java/jdk/bin
[11:04] <TTilus> _ubuntu504: i would guess that readily build kernels come with pretty much all chipsets supported
[11:04] <Virtuall> Is that all you can, sucker?! Show yourself!...
[11:04] <TTilus> _ubuntu504: how come?
[11:04] <theplateau> how ami going to unigornore all priv messages later on?
[11:04] <rox__> LasseL?
[11:05] <nalioth> attentions folks: you can /mode <yournick> +E and get rid of most of the spam
[11:05] <x[x] > hmm
[11:05] <theplateau> as in reversaing /ignore *!*@*
[11:05] <Virtuall> what does +E do?
[11:05] <nalioth> +E keeps unidentified nicks from sending you msgs
[11:05] <_ubuntu504> TTilus I am useing a NF7-s Rv2 motherboard
[11:05] <x[x] > it SHOULD be +R like every other damned Network
[11:05] <theplateau> ignores registered nicks
[11:05] <theplateau> unre4gisterd*
[11:05] <_ubuntu504> TTilus it uses a nvidia chipset... not for graphics though
[11:06] <qt2> '/mode +E yournick' is much more effective and doesnt block legitmate pm's...
[11:06] <theplateau> how do i undo /ignore !*@*
[11:07] <TTilus> _ubuntu504: and  you have problems?
[11:07] <lenny_> so, in order to add a path to all users who log into this machine.. what file do I edit?
[11:08] <lenny_> I'm trying to add /usr/java/jdk/bin
[11:08] <bimberi> lenny_: /etc/profile
[11:08] <nicholaspaul> i have a really bare xfce setup... and want to install the network settings panel so i can enter WEP key. Anyone know what that panel is called?
[11:08] <lenny_> and: If I change /etc/profile (the 2 path statements at the top) and they don't appear when I next login, what is the problem?
[11:08] <inva|id> nicholaspaul:  xcfe4-panel
[11:09] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: at a terminal, type "apt-cache search network"
[11:09] <nicholaspaul> :) fanks inva|id "D
[11:09] <bimberi> lenny_: (although I've just joined and have no background to your issue :) )
[11:09] <mike_> hey peoples
[11:09] <mike_> -s
[11:09] <nicholaspaul> fanks nalioth.
[11:09] <lenny_> :) This is the only background
[11:09] <mike_> does anyone here ever use hercules
[11:10] <lenny_> Someone told me before to edit /etc/profile, but it doesn't seem to work... I'm sure I'm doing something wrong
[11:10] <bimberi> lenny_: k :)
[11:10] <mike_> i'm getting an old ibm z series, and i'd like to experiment with the emulator before i get it so i don't fubar the machine
[11:11] <bimberi> lenny_: hmm ok
[11:11] <zer0`> lenny_ you can use the 'last' command, i think
[11:11] <amonkey> how do i mount a dvd iso? is it the same as a cd iso(iso9660)? it mounts wiht iso9660 but totem does't recognize it as a dvd
[11:11] <TTilus> mike_: z series?  are we talking about that huge noisy electrical air heater  :)
[11:13] <bimberi> lenny_: i recall that you need to edit ~/.gnomerc (or something like that) for setting the environment for individual users.  Unfortunately i don't know what the global equivalent is
[11:14] <lenny_> for some reason my PATH = /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[11:14] <lenny_> ok
[11:14] <lenny_> ok
[11:14] <lenny_> nevermind :).  I thought there were duplicates in that path statement
[11:14] <funkyHat> how do i identify myself as an oper (different server, it's a standard ircd afaik)?
[11:15] <nicholaspaul> inva|id - xfce4-panel doesnt seem to exist
[11:15] <lenny_> ok:  What is the last rc directory run after login?
[11:15] <mike_> TTilus, yeah noisy 64bit mainframe sweetness
[11:15] <mike_> hahah
[11:15] <Drewfus> i think i need help mounting a hard drive
[11:16] <Drewfus> i just got a new hard drive but i dont see it anywhere
[11:16] <lexmark> how do I install debian packages...  I have a package with extension *.deb
[11:16] <Drewfus> it is in the device list though
[11:16] <funkyHat> Drewfus, you need to add it in /etc/fstab
[11:17] <Drewfus> is fstab a program?
[11:17] <shamus> How can I remove all of the sun java I have installed? I'm tryinh to install azureus and getting errors, someone said to remove all traces of the sun java and install it via synaptic
[11:17] <funkyHat> no, it's a text file
[11:17] <Drewfus> ok ill try it
[11:17] <funkyHat> sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[11:18] <user1> is anyone running Oracle on Ubuntu?
[11:18] <Drewfus> thanks i think i can figure it out from here
[11:18] <Drewfus> if not ill ask some more
[11:18] <Mr_Rock> hi
[11:18] <daaku> anyone using the appletouch driver on a powerbook? cant seem to get it to work right!
[11:18] <lexmark> can anyone tell me how to install debian packages on ubuntu?
[11:18] <Mr_Rock> somebody can tell me how to configure my adsl?
[11:19] <shamus> lexmark, dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:19] <mike_> Mr_Rock, is it pppoe?
[11:19] <mike_> if so pppoeconfig
[11:19] <Mr_Rock> i think
[11:19] <lexmark> thanks shamus
[11:19] <shamus> no problem
[11:19] <mike_> it will search for the adsl connection from your ethernet, and ask for username/password stuff
[11:20] <nalioth> daaku: what is the appletouch thing?
[11:20] <shamus> what can I use on ubuntu to make a folder a .torrent file?
[11:20] <user1> no one is using Oracle?
[11:20] <nalioth> shamus: any torrent client
[11:20] <Drewfus> on the fstab do i just need to put the device address or do i need to add anything else
[11:20] <flodine> a guys is there a way to make your wallpaper scale with feh
[11:21] <nalioth> flodine: the feh homepage didnt have that info?
[11:21] <shamus> nalioth, apparently not the one I'm using
[11:21] <shamus> qtorrent
[11:21] <ekimus> flodine: what's feh?
[11:21] <user1> I'm going to try installing Oracle on Suse and then transplanting it to Ubuntu. Does anyone know why this might not work?
[11:21] <nalioth> shamus: try "createtorrent"
[11:21] <flodine> something to set wallpapers
[11:21] <lenny_> why isn't smeg in the repos?
[11:21] <nalioth> ekimus: an imlib based image viewer
[11:21] <shamus> nalioth, nevermind I figured it out
[11:22] <nalioth> lenny_: it will be in breezy
[11:22] <shamus> just right click > create archive, and use a .torrent extension
[11:22] <Drewfus> funkyhat: what all do i need to change on fstab, just the device addres?
[11:22] <lenny_> lame
[11:23] <funkyHat> Drewfus, you need to add a new line for each partition on your new drive
[11:23] <Drewfus> i havent formatted it yet
[11:23] <nalioth> Drewfus: ask uncle google "sample fstab"
[11:23] <shamus> actually, no i didn't. it says archive type not supported.
[11:23] <funkyHat> if you haven't formatted the drive yet, you need to do so with a tool like gparted
[11:23] <shamus> i figured since it changed the icon to a torrent icon it worked :?
[11:23] <nalioth> shamus: use regular bittorrent (i've nver used qtorrent)
[11:23] <funkyHat> or kparted if you prefer kde ;)
[11:24] <nalioth> shamus: or bittornado
[11:24] <medamaybe> could someone please tell me why ALL music players I install crash everytime I try to play a file??? :)
[11:24] <mike_> ...
[11:24] <Jowi> hi all
[11:24] <mike_> wtf is going on. i keep getting private (empty) messages from people
[11:24] <medamaybe> mike_, same here, I don't know where they are coming from
[11:24] <flodine> who was i talking to last night about the kernel update
[11:25] <flodine> are you here
[11:25] <Jowi> mike_: same here. and i just got in
[11:25] <nalioth_wrkn> mike_: type "/mode <yournick> +E" and it will filter them all out (this mode filters msgs from non identified users)
[11:25] <mike_> i forgot how to disallow private messages anyway
[11:25] <Drewfus> mike_: i keep getting empty pms too
[11:25] <daaku> nalioth: the trackpad works, but its not being recognized as a synaptics device
[11:25] <mike_> and there we go
[11:25] <mike_> hah
[11:25] <daaku> nalioth: and even to get it to work, i have to load X, rmmod the module, and modprobe it again
[11:25] <eamonn> turn off "auto open dialog windows" under the IRC menu to stop the empty dialogs.
[11:26] <ekimus> mike_: me too, seems like some script kiddie ist testing his/her brandnew "I h4x0r3d the n3t t00lk1t"
[11:26] <flodine> 'is there anyone running kernel 2.6.12 on 5.04
[11:26] <Jowi> nalioth_wrkn: should be a whole lot of non-reg users in here though :-)
[11:26] <shamus> nalioth_wrkn, I installed bittorrent via synaptic, but hwo do i run it?
[11:26] <mike_> god installing linux on an ibm server doesnt seem straight forward
[11:26] <flodine> why dont ubuntu update my kernel like fedora4
[11:27] <Jowi> shamus: it will run automaticly if you click a torrent link in firefox
[11:27] <ekimus> flodine: why should it? the generic kernel for ubuntu is quite ok
[11:27] <Jowi> shamus: you will get an option to either save the torrent or run it with gnome-btsomething
[11:28] <InitMass> what the hell. why are so many people flooding me?
[11:28] <flodine> true
[11:28] <Drewfus> im totally lost formatting this, im new to linux so im still used to the point and click world of win
[11:29] <Jowi> InitMass: same here. eamonn had a good idea though. turn off "auto open dialog window" in the IRC menu
[11:29] <funkyHat> Drewfus, follow the wiki tutorial on adding extra repositories to synaptic,
[11:29] <othernoob> how do i restart KDE?
[11:29] <funkyHat> !repositories
[11:29] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:29] <Drewfus> if its a secondary hard drive just for extra storage can i get away with one massive partition
[11:29] <funkyHat> Drewfus, yes
[11:29] <Drewfus> thanks ill look that wiki up
[11:29] <lexmark> I get this error when attempting to install debian package in the root terminal
[11:29] <lexmark> dpkg: error processing ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb (--install):
[11:29] <lexmark>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[11:29] <funkyHat> Drewfus, then use synaptic to install gparted
[11:30] <Drewfus> i did im in it now
[11:30] <funkyHat> oh cool (Y)
[11:30] <daaku> Jowi:  thats useful!
[11:30] <InitMass> Jowi, under which menu?
[11:30] <Drewfus> i labeled the drive but im not sure how to partition it
[11:30] <funkyHat> *sorry msn thumbs up smiley ;)
[11:30] <streets> biri yardim etsin..
[11:30] <Kurz> hello...
[11:30] <Jowi> InitMass: X-Chat IRC menu. top one
[11:30] <ak007> can anyone tell me that how do i install a boot screen for ubuntu?
[11:30] <Drewfus> what file system
[11:30] <funkyHat> ext3
[11:30] <Jowi> daaku: i thought so too :-)
[11:30] <InitMass> Jowi, i found it. thank you
[11:30] <munir> Hello all.
[11:31] <lexmark> can anyone help with that problem?
[11:31] <Kurz> how can i give more permissions to users in ubuntu?
[11:31] <shamus> Jowi, thanks, but how do I make a .torrent file with it?
[11:31] <gentoo_junkie> depends hehe
[11:31] <Drewfus> funkyhat do i need any freespace before or after?
[11:31] <lexmark> not sure what I am doing wrong.. I am following instructions closely
[11:31] <Jowi> Kurz: you can add them to the /etc/sudoers file if you want to make them admin
[11:31] <daaku> Drewfus:  not unless you plan to do something with it
[11:31] <ak007> and how do i access windows files from ubuntu?
[11:31] <tck_> hi
[11:31] <tck_> getting  OpenSSL crypto library missing error
[11:31] <nicholaspaul> does anyone know what the network manager in XFCE is called?
[11:31] <Drewfus> what do you mean do something with it
[11:31] <tck_> how do i fix it ?
[11:31] <ompaul> !ntfs
[11:32] <munir> I am new to Linux. Is ubuntu fine to me?
[11:32] <Jowi> lexmark: be sure you are in the same directory and that you type in the filename correctly. dpkg -i filename.deb