[10:46] <A2C2A> is it possible to "interrupt" upstart's init sequence in such a way that you get to choose whether to start or skip starting each service? if you're familiar with Gentoo's init, what I'm after is what happens when you press i during init.
[10:47] <ion> How would that be useful?
[10:48] <A2C2A> for debugging
[10:49] <A2C2A> it has been invaluable for me while creating various gentoo-based mini-distros
[10:50] <A2C2A> I guess that means this is not possible in upstart?
[18:18] <JamesB192> A2C2A: and you can't sit baselayout atop upstart why? it's not a feature of sysvinit either.
[18:26] <JamesB192> sysvinit is told basily to just call rc on runlevel changes, I had an upstart job that did the same thing until I switched my box back to sysv, and I don't remember what I did w/ the ebuild for upstart. 'man inittab' and 'nano /etc/inittab' are probably your friends. substitute the editor/pager? of your choice for nano.
[21:10] <mbiebl> A2C2A: Keybuk expressed interest in such an "interactive" mode
[21:11] <mbiebl> but upstart currently doesn't have support for that natively


[09:59] <SiDi> hi
[10:16] <thorwil> hello
[21:22] <dashua> SiDi: Hey mate, if you dug Kin, Kith, Kin Dust, Didymous, etc. from Gutsy/Intrepid cycle?  Check out my latest incarnation in my bzr branch.
[21:24] <SiDi> I will :p remind me that tomorrow pls ^^ im watching #ubuntu-chatroom atm :p
[21:24] <SiDi> what's your branch ?
[21:24] <SiDi> ~dashua/+junk/Karmic ?
[21:34] <dashua> Karmic-Themes
[21:34] <dashua> Ok
[21:35] <SiDi> It'll take me ages to download anyways with my connection :) i'll ping you about it tomorrow after i had a look at it. Thanks for pinging me tho
[21:35] <dashua> Np :)
[21:38] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/13365/screenshot_012_qU7563.png
[21:38] <dashua> Always loved this palatte.
[21:41] <SiDi> the wallpaper's sexy :) but i dont think i could manage to run with a red desktop
[21:41] <SiDi> its not a color for work / rest :(
[21:45] <SiDi> dashua: your screenshot is half loaded now \o/
[21:45] <dashua> Oh wow, slow connection, eh?
[21:46] <dashua> Man, this wallpaper is exactly the same as the Simple-Ubuntu wallpaper in Jaunty minus the glare circles
[21:46] <SiDi> It used to be very fast. i'm on a university residence wifi. my neighboors ended up noticing the wifi signal too
[21:46] <dashua> Yeah, it's pretty rich
[21:46] <SiDi> i'm under xfce :) didnt upgrade my gnome machine yet
[21:46] <dashua> Ah man
[21:46] <SiDi> Says 12 hours of package downloading :d
[21:47] <SiDi> it'll wait for a sunday morning
[21:47] <dashua> Yeah, that's long


[09:47] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:58] <Mikaela> hi
[09:58] <elfy> morning lordievader Mikaela
[10:00] <lordievader> Hey Mikaela, elfy. How are you doing?
[10:01] <elfy> all good here thanks - you?
[10:01] <lordievader> Doing good too :)
[10:02] <lordievader> Finally made the effort of setting up a binhost for my gentoo installs :D
[10:02] <Mikaela> I am trying to ask how do I report to KVIrc bug tracker and being harassed, and you?
[10:03] <lordievader> Mikaela: Hmm, that ain't nice... People should encourage bug reporting.
[10:04] <Mikaela> I don't personally use it, but I have friends using it and they are having issues with SASL, because KVIrc apparently only supports DH-BLOWFISH that was dropped in new ATheme that is in 7 networks including freenode testnet and will be come to freenode too.
[12:13] <Mikaela> lordievader: elfy: https://zero.mikaela.info/?9af805c231e0fac8#8azg97D1K+S2ybDvkhTXEd+Mi9KMb+mn9yGAxkQ7kkQ= & https://zero.mikaela.info/?3cce165843089510#FAWwrUKMp0AwWldKtNoqtMGMsttJGf02hkemNBufDhY=
[12:13] <Mikaela> not very encouraging to try to help them next time
[12:16] <lordievader> Now ain't that lovely :P
[12:17] <elfy> :|
[12:19] <elfy> I'll guess it's not an ubuntu channel then
[12:30] <Mikaela> it was #kvirc, if that happened at Ubuntu channel, action would probably be took in less than 10 minutes
[12:31] <elfy> yep
[12:32] <k1l_> if you encouter issues on #ubuntu channel you are free to talk to the operators on #ubuntu-ops
[12:32] <elfy> and #freenode if it's not *buntu but on freenode somewhere
[12:33] <elfy> doesn't stop it feeling crap at the time - might make it better in future for someone else
[12:34] <Mikaela> usually ubuntu channels have bot for ! ops and usually channel ops highlight to it anyway. #freenode is nowadays only telling to contact channel's own ops.
[12:36] <elfy> oh - didn't know that
[12:37] <Mikaela> I am mostly idling there and if I have understood correctly, #ubuntu-ops doesn't want people who aren't ops idling there.
[12:38] <k1l_> Mikaela: yes, its a team channel and only team members should idle there. users can join there when they have issues.
[12:38] <Mikaela> ok
[12:40] <k1l_> and we have #ubuntu-offtopic for the chitchat :) this is a unstable release support channel
[12:40] <Mikaela> but this is nicer channel than -offtopic :(
[12:41] <elfy> yes we know - and when people need support any offtopic chat stops
[12:43] <k1l_> that is not what the guidelines advice :/  you could contribute to -offtopic to make it a nicer channel
[13:10] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning all
[15:08] <teward> is 15.04 going to transition to systemd at some point?
[15:08] <elfy> that was the word - whether there'll be a new word I don't know
[15:11] <teward> elfy: is there a mailing list entry somewhere?
[15:11] <teward> elfy: that's what i heard last as well, but as I don't have all my emails in front of me I'm curious where that announcement ended up
[15:12] <elfy> just seen it on a blog is all - nothing on -dev nor -release mailing lists that I've seen
[15:13] <elfy> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1411/meeting/22401/systemd-transition/
[15:13] <elfy> possibly find more in there
[15:14] <elfy> http://pad.ubuntu.com/uos-1411-systemd-transition
[15:16] <BluesKaj_> teward, I heard rumours that systemd would default on 15.10
[15:28] <teward> BluesKaj_: yeah, i heard rumors the transition was going to start in 15.04, and i heard the 15.10 rumors as well
[15:28] <teward> isn't transition partly dependent on Debian's transition?
[15:30] <BluesKaj_> yes teward, most likely, but not a sure thing i think
[15:30] <teward> BluesKaj_: right, that's what I thought
[15:32] <BluesKaj_> since Mr Shuttleworth seems to be transistioning ubuntu to a more independent OS ..who knows how far he's taking it
[15:32]  * teward shrugs
[15:33] <BluesKaj_> yeah well I'm sticking with Kubuntu
[21:01] <BluesKaj> Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch


[00:09] <bryceh> Sarvatt, true, although now with nvidia-updates being expedited, and nvidia-experimental for the beta drivers, those needs should hopefully be addressed in-archive now
[00:16] <bryceh> Sarvatt, we don't have the same set up for fglrx but I think we could (and should).
[00:16] <bryceh> but we can't do that for Intel so easily, so I think the PPA route is the way to go.
[00:20] <bjsnider> doesn't intel change 100% of the code every 20 minutes?
[00:28] <bryceh> bjsnider, heh
[03:49] <tjaalton> has anyone tried nomodeset with intel? xserver loads with vesa, but hangs immediately
[04:10] <tjaalton> at least vesafb needs to be prevented from loading with nomodeset
[04:53] <tjaalton> bryceh: bh.org seems down?
[05:29] <mlankhorst> RAOF: well no longer I think, pretty sure it fails on prime
[05:36] <RAOF> mlankhorst: Surely not - manufacturers *will* ensure that the BIOS splash will show up, and if we don't touch the hardware state we should always be able to output text on that video mode, right?
[05:37] <mlankhorst> or at least Xorg failed to start on my prime setup because intel wasn't prime capable, I'm pretty sure that vesa and fbdev are neither, but modesetting would be
[05:37] <mlankhorst> so... no longer true :p
[05:37] <RAOF> Oh, I don't mean X.
[05:37] <RAOF> I don't really care if X doesn't start in recovery mode; that's not what it's for :)
[05:37] <mlankhorst> yeah but it kills any hope of having failsafe-x working
[05:37] <RAOF> Only if we have nomodeset set, right?
[05:38] <mlankhorst> yeah
[05:38] <mlankhorst> but I'm wondering if we shouldn't simply add a 'noaccel' to kernel instead
[05:38] <RAOF> Failsafe-x is only really important to kick in when the user boots normally, but X doesn't otherwise work.
[05:38] <RAOF> “noaccel” doesn't fix the case of “my screen turns off as soon as I start booting”
[05:38] <mlankhorst> true
[05:39] <RAOF> If we need to change recovery mode so that it doesn't try to start X, then that's what we should do.
[05:43] <bryceh> tjaalton, godaddy fail.
[06:14] <tjaalton> bryceh: ah
[06:15] <tjaalton> hum, should i915_dri work on >965gm?
[06:15] <tjaalton> meaning, could I still bisect what broke it
[06:15] <RAOF> I don't believe so
[06:15] <tjaalton> ok
[06:19] <tjaalton> yup, fails
[06:19] <tjaalton> forcing i915 results in a nice hang/crash
[06:20] <RAOF> Doesn't surprise me :)
[06:23] <tjaalton> had to try :)
[07:08] <mlankhorst> RAOF: yeah but I mean, wouldn't blacklist.drm=1 or something be better?
[07:09] <RAOF> mlankhorst: Yes, it would.
[07:13] <tjaalton> cool, llvmpipe crash reproduced
[07:13] <tjaalton> by closing a firefox window..
[07:14] <tjaalton> *compiz crash
[07:21] <mlankhorst> RAOF: hm, the official way would be modprobe.blacklist=i915,nouveau,radeon then instead, in that case it will not load any of the drivers unless you start X
[07:22] <mlankhorst> I'll check if failsafe-x would cause it to load or not
[07:35] <mlankhorst> RAOF: it seems to have worked
[07:36] <tjaalton> heh, looks like we get to close all/most of the i8xx bugs, since the kernel requires pae support from the cpu
[07:39] <mlankhorst> hm all ddx drivers finished?
[07:40] <mlankhorst> guess I'll copy it over
[08:33] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: well I re-pushed most packages now to the ppa
[08:35] <tjaalton> mlankhorst: cool
[08:36] <tjaalton> and oh how sick gnome-settings-daemon is in handling the touchpad enable/disable state..
[08:36] <tjaalton> and how synaptics is sick in having two properties for disabling the device..
[08:37] <mlankhorst> O_O
[08:37] <tjaalton> xinput disable/enable touches "Device Enabled" property, but g-s-d touches both that and "Synaptics Off" property
[08:37] <tjaalton> so once they get off sync you don't have a touchpad anymore
[08:39] <mlankhorst> can you touch the the synaptics on property if the device is xi disabled?
[08:39] <tjaalton> yes
[08:40] <tjaalton> so you can reset the value and get it back
[08:41] <tjaalton> wtf, a crash
[08:42] <tjaalton> ahah, don't have the patch for that
[08:48] <tjaalton> also "disable while typing doesn't seem to work at all
[08:48] <tjaalton> +"
[09:40] <tjaalton> hah, barking at the wrong tree.. it's acpi-support
[09:45] <tjaalton> /etc/acpi/asus-touchpad.sh and g-s-d fighting
[09:51] <tjaalton> both being triggered
[10:16]  * mlankhorst is fighting lockdep itself, more fun :)
[10:37] <maxb> Short of actually installing it and seeing if it works, is there a better way to tell if quantal has a working fglrx?
[10:37] <tjaalton> that it refuses to install
[10:37]  * maxb sadly has a laptop which overheats dreadfully without the proprietary driver
[10:37] <tjaalton> you should use a stable release then
[10:38] <tjaalton> because fglrx is broken every release
[10:39] <maxb> I am aware of this. Hence looking to time my upgrade to ASAP after a working fglrx arrives
[10:39] <tjaalton> like after quantal is released? :)
[10:41] <maxb> If absolutely necessary, yes. But I can hope.
[12:04] <mlankhorst> well just did a nouveau ddx 1.0.2 release \o/
[12:07] <tjaalton> nice, and I pushed intel 2.20.7 to git
[12:08] <mlankhorst> ah great, I'll push nouveau too which gives us some parts that are prime capable
[13:57] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: you should be able to pick upload nouveau from debian-experimental now?
[13:58] <tjaalton> mlankhorst: yup see it
[13:59] <mlankhorst> was a bit of work to get right :)
[14:03] <tjaalton> noticed :)
[14:24] <tjaalton> mlankhorst: ok so should I upload these?
[14:25] <mlankhorst> yeah :)
[14:32] <tjaalton> the watch file needed updating
[14:39] <tjaalton> uploaded
[14:39] <tjaalton> both
[15:27] <tjaalton> time to update my laptop to quantal I guess.. bugs I'm still seeing with precise are also on quantal, so.. :)
[15:27] <tjaalton> plus the hybrid crack to test
[15:28] <mlankhorst> tjaalton: yeah I need to bug airlied for the hack that makes the x server automatically bind it
[15:28] <tjaalton> he sent it to xorg-devel@
[15:30] <mlankhorst> oh indeed he has :)
[15:31] <mlankhorst> my previous bugging was succesful then, can you test it?
[15:31] <tjaalton> I'll test it once it's finished, yeah
[15:31] <tjaalton> the upgrade
[15:31] <tjaalton> some time later this evening
[15:43] <tjaalton> "mixed non-coinstallable and coinstallable package instances present"
[15:43] <tjaalton> stopped there
[15:44] <mlankhorst> is that english?
[15:45] <tjaalton> from dpkg
[16:02] <jcristau> bleh.  precise makes gitk look like crap because xfonts-{100,75}dpi got moved to universe.
[16:03] <tjaalton> looks ok here
[16:35] <mlankhorst> jcristau: add recommends for those to gitk?


[10:36] <guiverc> looks very much like jammy jellyfish..  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy
 👌
 inedible? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> looks very much like jammy jellyfish..  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jammy)
 Yeah, I don't think you can eat it. (re @Leokolb: inedible?)
 so no problems then heg (re @kc2bez: nvm @teward001 I am back in.)
 just pebkac (re @teward001: so no problems then heg)
 cool
 *goes back to napping*


[12:55] <tenc> Good morning #ubuntu. :)
[12:58] <wrst> morning tenc, how are you doing?
[13:26] <tenc> Doing great. How about you wrst?
[13:27] <wrst> yep doing well for a monday morning :)
[14:36] <tenc> ipv6 addresses are much hard to copy by sight...
[14:42] <tenc> Other things I've observed this morning: in the set {logout, quit, exit} the correct command will always be the last one I issue.
[14:54] <wrst> ha ha
[14:54] <wrst> ipv6 addresses give me a headache :)
[15:31] <netritious_> good morning
[15:31] <wrst> howdy netritious_
[15:32] <netritious> sorry I missed you last week wrst...having probs out of my ancient ups'
[15:32] <wrst> ha ha netritious
[15:32] <wrst> that does not sound like fun
[15:32] <wrst> batteries?
[15:33] <netritious> yep..scored two off of amazon for $30+free shipping
[15:33] <wrst> nice especially on the free shipping, them there batteries be heavy
[15:33] <netritious> yessir
[15:36] <netritious> atm trying to find just the right mini itx board. the project requires 4+ RJ45 but for under $225 isn't easy lol...unless you want jetway.
[15:36] <wrst> just the name, jetway, does not instill confidence
[15:36] <netritious> board+cpu+ram+case+psu+4 or more RJ45
[15:37] <wrst> can we ask what the projuce is? or will you have to kill us?
[15:37] <wrst> if you would have to kill us I would rather not know
[15:38] <netritious> lol nothing special...moving a firewall install from "in beta forever" to dedicated machine
[15:38] <wrst> nice
[15:39] <netritious> zotac has some nice borads with wifi built-in, but then it has a geforce GT 5xx soemthing or the other...not needed for a firewall, at least not mine heh
[15:40] <wrst> you building your own as far as software, or doing something pfsensish?
[15:41] <netritious> going to install pfsense 9.1 that uses the new PBI packaging
[15:43] <wrst> nice, I have no need whatsover for any of that but would love to give it a try :)
[15:43] <netritious> 9.0-RELEASE JustWorks™
[15:44] <netritious> sure you do wrst
[15:44] <netritious> you just don't know it lol
[15:44] <wrst> I'm sure I could think of something
[15:44] <netritious> well, dansguardian for one
[15:44] <wrst> I mean do I really need a FreeNAS system in my house
[15:44] <netritious> great for anyone that has kids
[15:45] <wrst> true netritious, right now I'm letting opendns filter, which is not perfect, but dans guardian without help is such a pain to even attempt for a mortal like me to set up
[15:45] <netritious> captive portal for controlling time spent on teh network
[15:45] <netritious> yeah wrst, it's that time thing
[15:45] <wrst> that's pretty cool
[15:45] <netritious> some of us could do it /if we had the time/
[15:46] <wrst> yes exactly
[15:46] <netritious> also on captive portal control bandwidth rates. can set global and get granular as well.
[15:47] <netritious> *also with captive portal you can
[15:47] <wrst> hmm could keep the HD youtubes from killing my connection and sentence them to 480P
[15:47] <wrst> :)
[15:48] <netritious> yep. also there is QoS control that works by applying bandwidth filters dynamically based on type of traffic. (pfsense has a wizard thank God.)
[15:49] <wrst> ha ha yes I do a very limited QoS on my dd-wrt router, to keep uploads from killing my connection but that's it
[15:56] <netritious> I like x86 because it's almost completely open. I can add/change/remove most hardware components at will on x86 platform, whereas with ARM/RISC based systems the hardware is much more "fixed" and not designed for much if any after market modifications.
[15:56] <netritious> just talking about hardware hear, not software
[15:56] <netritious> *here
[15:57] <wrst> agreed
[15:57] <wrst> its much much easier
[15:57] <wrst> I saw that intel had an SD card sized x86 system
[15:58] <wrst> would love to see x86 chips with the power benefits of arm
[15:58] <netritious> or x86 completely ported to ARM...that would work...mostly lol
[15:59] <netritious> software I mean
[15:59] <wrst> ahh yes that would work also
[16:32] <twayneprice> We have outgrown our SAN at work that we use for VMWare and I'm looking to add some NFS storage.  What OS would you guys recommend?  I need two boxes that will mirror each other in case of failure.  I may have to get something that I can get paid support on in order to appease the higher-ups. :)
[16:40] <wrst> to say I'm no expert is a great understatement but have heard good things about ixsystems
[16:41] <twayneprice> ah.  We already have the hardware.
[16:42] <wrst> ahh gotcha
[16:43] <twayneprice> I used redhat a long time ago.  I think suse is used in the enterprise too.
[16:45] <twayneprice> I've read about drbd and glusterfs.  Anyone have any experience with either of those?
[17:08] <netritious> can't say about gluster...I've read quite a bit, but nothing deployed.
[17:08] <netritious> drbd, well get ready for some fun heh
[17:09] <twayneprice> That sounds ominous.  :)
[17:10] <netritious> I had problems with a heartbeat+drbd setup, but in the end I think it was heartbeat filling an 10GB / with 4GB logs
[17:11] <netritious> anyway, I would mount the drbd block as /var/vm and store vmware images there
[17:12] <netritious> when it worked it worked well, but it was a stupid setup rife with opprotunities for something to fail
[17:13] <twayneprice> That in a nice thing about our HP SAN.  It just works.  But $45k for 6TB of usable space, I would prefer not to order another one.  :)
[17:16] <netritious> I've seen some generic sata disk storage units that would connect to a PC via esata, the PC being the SAN host. Somewhere in the neighborhood of $300 to a few $1,000
[17:17] <netritious> I would just use some linux distro you like, create some raid devices via mdadm, and export NFS
[17:18] <twayneprice> We have a couple of HP server with 8 removable HD each.
[17:19] <twayneprice> mdadm is software raid, right?
[17:23] <netritious> mdadm is software raid but it works really really well. I've relied on it now for a few years and store around 2+ terabytes with plenty of room to grow
[17:23] <netritious> RAID1+hot spares+hot swap 3.5" sata drive bays
[17:24] <twayneprice> would you use drbd again?
[17:24] <netritious> not unless someone paid me to lol
[17:26] <netritious> you might want to check out corosync(?)
[17:26] <netritious> spelling might be wrong
[17:27] <twayneprice> ceph maybe?
[17:28] <netritious> nope, I meant corosync http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/corosync
[17:30] <twayneprice> gotcha.
[17:30] <netritious> there's a better wikipedia page
[17:32] <netritious> if you decide to get into clustering though I would recommendl reading the drbd manual section on terminology since you will encounter a whole new set of errors that you really wouldn't see coming without maybe a cluster engineering degree...if one of those exist
[17:32] <netritious> even if you don't use drbd
[17:34] <twayneprice> That's probably a good idea.
[19:27] <average_guy> Have you looked at Openfiler twayneprice
[19:28] <average_guy> mucho reccamendo
[20:06] <twayneprice> average_guy: yea, I've looked at it and FreeNas.  Have you had it syncing with 2 or more machines?


[04:45] <flyback> any way to get rid of this "close" part of a apps taskbar setting
[04:45] <flyback> it
[04:45] <flyback> is a absolutely diaster
[04:46] <flyback> if the mouse stutters
[09:06] <vangkep_> luv lubuntu
[13:06] <zoey> hi, got problem with Quassel IRC (latest kubuntu 64 bit), after connection is always changing my nick into zoey_ (all adresses, ports etc are correct)
 @zoey [<zoey> hi, got problem with Quassel IRC (latest kubuntu 64 bit), after connectio …], Sure its kubuntu not lubuntu?
[13:56] <zoey> Kubuntu 20.4, Quassel v0.13.1 (dist-3778a12)
 @zoey [<zoey> Kubuntu 20.4, Quassel v0.13.1 (dist-3778a12)], Its lubuntu specific chat :3
[13:58] <zoey> ok, sorry, so why client had choose this channel as default?
 Who knows?
[13:59] <zoey> solution gaven at this channel should gave me all answers
 Not me, i never lost control.
[14:03] <zoey> One world please.
 Quassel in Ubuntu is the same throughout the flavors. We do have some information in our Lubuntu manual regarding setup that may be helpful for setting your nick and channels. https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/2/2.1/2.1.3/Quassel_IRC.html
 @zoey [<zoey> One world please.], ^
[15:19] <zoey> nihal697 how much?
[15:52] <andriana20> @munsko hello guys
 @zoey [<zoey> nihal697 how much?], How much what? … And u shud use @ before username
[15:54] <andriana20> @nihal1697 hello. i finally was able to install lubuntu. the pc had a dvd drive.
 Its nihal697
 Why dont you guys just use telegram lol
[15:56] <andriana20> but i still have the resolution issue. in preferences, the system is locked on 840*640 pixels, while my screen default is 1280*720. do you guys know what i could do? i am using lubuntu now , so no telegram
 @andriana20 [<andriana20> but i still have the resolution issue. in preferences, the system i …], You can install it on ur phone, or on lubuntu or just use the web version. … Anyways.
[15:58] <andriana20> No phone availible right now. letțs move on
[15:59] <Munsko> congratz
[15:59] <andriana20> thanks Munsko
[15:59] <andriana20> you at least understand the situation quite clearly
[16:00] <Munsko> did you checked monitor settings?
[16:00] <andriana20> yes
[16:00] <andriana20> it only has 840*680 as a choice
[16:00] <Munsko> and refresh rate?
[16:00] <andriana20> 72hz
[16:00] <andriana20> yesterday, i tried to sudo a grub file and edited it
[16:00] <Munsko> im not sure, but i think that the refresh rate allows some resolutions
 @andriana20 [<andriana20> you at least understand the situation quite clearly], Send a screenshot
[16:00] <andriana20> that caused lubuntu to not boot
[16:01] <Munsko> yes, i remember that
[16:01] <andriana20> i am on this slow system
[16:01] <andriana20> and no phone
[16:01] <andriana20> so screenshot is a bit difficult right now
[16:02] <apt-ghetto> What resolutions are listed with xrandr?
[16:02] <Munsko> check if you have "screengrab"
[16:02] <Munsko> that allows you the screnshoot
[16:02] <Munsko> with Imp Pnt key
[16:03] <andriana20> dont know of that key
[16:03] <andriana20> @apt-ghetto i have not run xrandr
 @andriana20 [<andriana20> dont know of that key], Print screen key
[16:03] <andriana20> no real knowledge of this os guys
 @andriana20 [<andriana20> @apt-ghetto i have not run xrandr], Run then
 @andriana20 [<andriana20> no real knowledge of this os guys], Stop whining pliz
[16:04] <andriana20> @nihal1697 lol, only one whining i see is you dude. explaining isnt whining
[16:05] <andriana20> like i said, dont have knowledge of lubuntu. so you cant expect me to run a command i do not know of
 @andriana20 [<andriana20> @nihal1697 lol, only one whining i see is you dude. explaining isnt …], No real knowledge lady gaga gay stuff isnt explaining .
 @andriana20 [<andriana20> like i said, dont have knowledge of lubuntu. so you cant expect me …], Its not lubuntu specific . … Run `xrandr` in terminal
 @andriana20 [<andriana20> like i said, dont have knowledge of lubuntu. so you cant expect me …], Tried?
[16:11] <andriana20> xrandr only mentions 840&680
[16:12] <apt-ghetto> Which driver is in use? `lspci -nnk | grep -A3 "\[03..\]:"`
 @andriana20 [<andriana20> xrandr only mentions 840&680], Noice
[16:15] <andriana20> @apt-ghetto this command will check which driver?
[16:16] <apt-ghetto> These are two commands: the first lists all PCI devices and the second filters for graphic card related stuff
[16:17] <andriana20> so i suspect first is `lspci -nnk
[16:17] <apt-ghetto> Yes, you can read the manual with `man lspci`
[16:18] <andriana20> i got a very big text log as a return
[16:18] <andriana20> i ll send it on pm
[16:19] <apt-ghetto> No, don't send it on pm
[16:19] <apt-ghetto> If you have executet both commands, the output should be 2 - 4 lines
[16:20] <andriana20> already sent
[16:20] <apt-ghetto> That is useless
[16:20] <andriana20> sure
[16:21] <andriana20> alright. executed both
[16:21] <andriana20> got a 10-line return
[16:21] <andriana20> now?
[16:22] <apt-ghetto> Try `lspci -nnk | grep -A3 "\[03..\]:" | pastebinit` and share the URL
[16:23] <andriana20> it wont execute
[16:23] <andriana20> just empty prompt on next line after hitting enter
[16:23] <andriana20> wait
[16:23] <andriana20> got smth
[16:34] <andriana20> guys, this is my hardware, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dxsMn3xsq7/
[16:35] <andriana20> if anyone knows how i can get my screen s 1280*720 res back as a choice, instead of the one i m stuck at (840*680) please inform
[22:45] <flyback> any way to disable "close" in each apps right click menu?
[22:45] <flyback> it's too easy to accidentely set off with a stray mouse click
[22:45] <flyback> really BAD design
[22:59] <wxl> flyback: presumedly you mean the context menu of the window manager and not of the application itself? e.g. there's no close in firefox
[23:05] <wxl> so you have to click on the window label (a relatively narrow space), right click, scroll all the way down to the bottom of that menu, and then click to get to close. that's one really crazy stray mouse click you're having
[23:12] <wxl> i'll point out, too, kde functions fairly similarly
[23:12] <wxl> as does windows
[23:34] <Andriana20> Hi a
[23:34] <Andriana20> hi all
[23:39] <Andriana20> Is anyone availible to assist?
[23:42] <guiverc> Andriana20, ask your question, people will read & answer when they are able to (please try and keep to a single line, and patience helps)
[23:58] <Andriana20> Good Evening,I have a computer, year 2005 with the following features:Cpu AMD Sempron 3000+ Palermo 90nm, RAM: 512MB, motherboard microstar LS-7135, graphics AL1716 (1280x1024) 16MB ATI VGAInitially the computer was running windows 7 home 32-bit, but due to a slow response, I decided to install lubuntu 18.04.4 32-bit. Everything went great with the
[23:58] <Andriana20> installation, except for an issue. Back when i was at windows, the system ran at 1280x780 resolution (confirmed it recently, so its tested resolution that works. About the 1280x1024 in the specs, i got it from speccy, but maybe this resolution also works on my screen.) Unfortunately in lubuntu, the only option for resolution now in screen
[23:58] <Andriana20> preferences, is 640x480, 72hz, without giving other options for better clarity (the ones I mentioned above). The first time I tried to resolve the issue, I found a forum post that suggested I use the command 'sudo nano/etc/default/grub'  to edit the file's text line from # GRUB_TERMINAL = console to GRUB_TERMINAL = console . After saving it, the
[23:58] <Andriana20> 1280x780 option returned to the preferences.  I selected it,  saved it, but it instantly disappeared . After that, and restarting the computer, the system could no longer load lubuntu os in any way and i had to reinstall them via dvd. Since then, I have obviously avoided doing such an action again, but with the little knowledge I have, i ran
[23:58] <Andriana20> xrandir on the terminal,  but unfortunately the only available resolution shown is 640*480.. Do you have any solutions to this?  Any help will be aplreciated..


[14:56] <rick_h_> wheeeee, making a mess of the neighborhood road https://youtu.be/XqmnybUWH3A
[15:04] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Getting new sidewalk?
[15:04] <rick_h_> cmaloney: yea, driveway and such
[15:04] <rick_h_> getting it a bit wider and fixing the old stuff
[15:04] <rick_h_> https://youtu.be/x9c53YajxEU is more fun with the machines pulling stuff
[15:29] <cmaloney> Wow. that's awesome
[15:31] <rick_h_> I keep looking at them tear things up, very distracting
[15:36] <jrwren> how old is that existing concrete?
[15:38] <rick_h_> jrwren: a little over 30 years assuming it's original
[15:39] <rick_h_> house was built mid-80s
[15:41] <jrwren> wow! yeah, that looks great for that age.
[15:41] <jrwren> you replacing it all?
[15:42] <rick_h_> yea, making it 4ft wider to make more room for wife to get the van into the garage around the RV
[15:42] <rick_h_> so that started it, and decided if we're going to do it once...just do it well
[15:42] <jrwren> yup its time.
[16:10] <greg-g> oh, that's satisfying, when they get that second slab all in one piece, but you ended too soon before they drop it in the dump!
[16:11] <rick_h_> greg-g: lol
[16:11] <greg-g> :)
[16:11] <rick_h_> greg-g: I'll have to go back and make a highlight reel tonight
[16:11] <greg-g> +1 :)
[16:12] <cmaloney> ASMR for greg-g: concrete slabs.
[17:10] <rick_h_> greg-g: this is a bit cool https://youtu.be/2IuuqHrShBk
[17:10] <rick_h_> timelapse the whole thing
[17:14] <greg-g> rick_h_: niice
[17:14] <greg-g> today they pour?
[17:14] <rick_h_> greg-g: tomorrow
[17:14] <rick_h_> greg-g: they're working on the wooden framing and such atm
[17:14] <greg-g> gotcha
[17:14] <rick_h_> so I think that'll end today once they're setup to just come out, pour, and let it solidfy enough to cut expansion joints
[17:14] <rick_h_> but I didn't get an agenda from them heh
[17:15] <greg-g> "hi, I'm going to project manage your work" :)
[17:15] <rick_h_> "does this lane properly reflect your active backlog of tasks for this iteration?"
 Let's work with product to identify the must have vs nicer to have work"
[17:18]  * rick_h_ knows how to get greg-g worked up lol
[17:22] <Scary_Guy> afternoon
[17:24] <greg-g> rick_h_: <3
[17:40] <jrwren> rick_h_: its stuck in review.
[17:40] <jrwren> ;)
[17:40] <jrwren> concrete review.
[17:40] <rick_h_> jrwren: hah
[18:06] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Naturally w're supposed to get rain tonight


[12:03] <KGB-0> libadwaita pipeline Jeremy Bicha 553539 * running (extract-source: running; build: created; build i386: created; build source: created; test-build-any: created; test-build-all: created; test-crossbuild-arm64: created; reprotest: created; lintian: created; autopkgtest: created; blhc: created; piuparts: created)
[12:07] <KGB-0> libadwaita pipeline Jeremy Bicha 553539 * [3 minutes and 41 seconds] failed (extract-source: success; build: failed; build i386: failed; build source: failed; test-build-any: skipped; test-build-all: skipped; test-crossbuild-arm64: skipped; reprotest: skipped; lintian: skipped; autopkgtest: skipped; blhc: skipped; piuparts: skipped)
[15:39] <seb128> ricotz, hey, did you start working somewhere on thunderbird 115?
[15:46] <ricotz> seb128, hi, there is a basic build at https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/thunderbird-next/+packages
[15:47] <ricotz> translations are not working
[15:54] <seb128> ricotz, thanks! and do you have any idea why they are not working?
[15:57] <ricotz> seb128, sorry, no
[16:06] <ricotz> the upstream language xpi build works
[16:06] <seb128> no worry, I'm on holidays starting friday so I will probably poke at it once I'm back in august
[16:06] <ricotz> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/candidates/115.0-candidates/build2/linux-x86_64/xpi/
[16:07] <seb128> I was pondering trying to update mantic this week but I will probably not get to it
[16:07] <ricotz> 115.1 or even 115.2 should be a safer candidate to switch major versions
[16:09] <seb128> ack
[16:09] <seb128> I was not looking at updating stable series yet
[16:09] <seb128> but getting the new serie in mantic before the freeze would be nice
[16:09] <seb128> I also need to check if the deb version looks as un-integrated that the snap, the 115 snap is really not nice looking
[16:10] <seb128> using blue color, not enough spacing in fonts, it feels quite an usability regression compared to 102
[16:10] <ricotz> I am using this 115 here, this is the new UI
[16:11] <ricotz> you can set the spacing and therefore the default could be altered