[00:00] <Guest39623> i checked sound control. all is on. no sound
[00:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> actionParsnip: in input devices there is nothing listed except under monitors
[00:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> no hardware or s/w defices
[00:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> devices*
[00:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> yet i can hear my mic through my headphones
[00:00] <WhereIsMySpoon> how the hell does this work O.o
[00:00] <DenverDave> michealPW, I am going to try that. but I switched over to KDE as I did not like unity
[00:00] <altin> anyone knows graphics driver for a thinkpad t60
[00:01] <altin> I'm not able to find any :S
[00:01] <michealPW> I like KDE, too. It's nice that with Ubuntu you can have both easily without problems :)
[00:01] <rcmaehl> I keep getting SECURITY_ERASE: Input/output error
[00:01] <michealPW> I even have GNOME 3 installed too haha
[00:01] <actionParsnip> ph1rm: 1. Your sources.list file was messedup so I gave you a default one
[00:01] <mcy> I accidentally formatted hard disk /dev/sdb.how to restore data?
[00:01] <ph1rm> how do i " enable component called 'universe' " via CLI
[00:01] <actionParsnip> ph1rm: 2. Set your DNS servers to one online as the one(s) you are using suck
[00:01] <michealPW> DenverDave: So in KDE, it'll be in System Settings -> Input Devices -> Mouse, if it's anywhere I think hehe
[00:02] <ph1rm> lol okay will do
[00:02] <Fudge> hi I have netbook using ralink rt2800 driver according to lshw -C network but asks for wireless password and does not connect, need some help
[00:02] <Guest39623> anyone help!!!
[00:02] <usr13> mcy: What is done is done.  Hate to be bearer of bad news, but.
[00:03] <mcy> anyone help!!!
[00:03] <usr13> mcy: Sorry.
[00:03] <actionParsnip> mcy: use your backups
[00:03] <Guest39623> my sound?
[00:03] <Jordan_U> mcy: "formatted" how? What did you actually do?
[00:03] <mcy> dd command
[00:03] <mcy> ?
[00:03] <usr13> Guest39623: Here's how it works.  You ask questions, someone else tries to answer questions.
[00:04] <blackshirt> mcy, not always works,but you can try testdisk,or photorec.., but you have formatted your disk, thats bad...
[00:04] <Guest39623> got sb 24 bit live how do i get sound?
[00:04] <usr13> mcy: Give the complete command you used.
[00:04] <Jordan_U> mcy: What is the exact command you ran? (please include in your comment a warning that the command will wipe a drive).
[00:04] <actionParsnip> mcy: no, your backups you made of your important data, you may find foremost works if you don't have backups (for whatever reason)
[00:04] <blackshirt> mcy, don't do a lot of write on your disk
[00:05] <mcy> dd if=.....iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M
[00:05] <DenverDave> michealPW, I looked there.. not working for me
[00:05] <actionParsnip> Guest39623: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[00:05] <ph1rm> how do i enable universe via command line
[00:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> actionParsnip: what shall i do now?
[00:06] <usr13> So you copied an iso to the drive?  Did that drive have any partitions on it?  What was on it before?
[00:06] <Jordan_U> mcy: OK, so you've definitely lost all of the data which was contained in the first X MiB of the disk, where X is the number of MiB in the iso image.
[00:06] <usr13> mcy: And just out of curiosity, what exactly was your intention?
[00:06] <zykotick9> ph1rm: look into /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:06] <actionParsnip> WhereIsMySpoon: my sound troubleshooting is very basic, keep the pastebin though
[00:06] <michealPW> DenverDave: The Keyboard, Mouse, Video chip(s) and Display(s) are all controlled by the X Windows Server, called Xorg. Normally, Xorg runs without a configuration file. It automatically probes your machine and identifies all those devices. I'm thinking it is failing to identify your mouse as having a wheel..
[00:07] <actionParsnip> ph1rm: if you are using the one I gave it should be enabled
[00:07] <usr13> mcy: You should try and mount it and see what is really there, (and not there).
[00:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> actionParsnip: :( ok, i asked in #alsa too but got nothing
[00:07] <DenverDave> michealPW, I hear ya.. been a while.. where is the xorg.conf? /etc?
[00:07] <rcmaehl> Also, I need help setting up Nvidia X Configuration so I can have my desktop on 3 monitors, right now it's only on 2 and the others are white
[00:07] <usr13> mcy: But just beware that it is what it is.  You can't undo what you've done.
[00:07] <michealPW> DenverDave: If you follow my above instructions, I think it will get you up and running with an xorg.conf configuration file for your Xorg. Then you can open that xorg.conf and add a line to your mouse section, mapping the wheel ( Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5")
[00:07] <mcy> to restore the rest data on the disc   without X MB?
[00:08] <actionParsnip> Guest39623: select to upload to the server and a URL will be made
[00:08] <actionParsnip> mcy: use foremost, as I sasid
[00:08] <usr13> mcy: Mount the drive and see what is on it.  (What is there is there, what is not is not.)
[00:08] <actionParsnip> mcy: why do you not have a backup of the data if it is important?
[00:08] <michealPW> DenverDave: Like I said, you don't have one (yet) you can open a terminal (alt+F2, type konsole and hit enter) and type the following commands: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:08] <mcy> just a rookie
[00:09] <usr13> mcy: First, sww hat partitions are on it.  Issue command:  sudo fdisk -l
[00:09] <Jordan_U> mcy: actionParsnip: If you had multiple partitions, then using testdisk to restore the partition table might get more data back than foremost or similar tools that just grep raw data for things that look like files.
[00:09] <actionParsnip> mcy: look into foremost. It may help but the data may be damaged if it has been overwritten
[00:09] <michealPW> DenverDave: It will bring up a configuration utility that will guide you through generating an xorg.conf.
[00:09] <michealPW> Basically ^_^
[00:09] <ph1rm> ok so i attempted to    apt-get install irc11   and it says it has to be enabled
[00:09] <Smackbook> is there any command to view or modify power saving settings through the terminal?  or file to edit?  my ubuntu seems to shut the monitor down after 10 minutes of inactivity, and I am running xbmc-live
[00:10] <kristopher> zykotick9 you were helping me right
[00:10] <actionParsnip> mcy: you'll need a writable partition to spit ALL files found. So it will need to be suitably sized. If you had a backup you wouldn't be in this issue
[00:10] <Jordan_U> mcy: Did you have multiple partitions before dding the iso to the drive?
[00:10] <jrib> Smackbook: xset
[00:10] <mcy> trying testdisk
[00:10] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: xbmc live ist supported here
[00:10] <Smackbook> actionParsnip: i dont think its an xbmc problem
[00:10] <Smackbook> i just mean to say I dont have access to the gui
[00:10] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: its not an Ubuntu problem
[00:11] <kristopher> after i did the x config save it came up with a box that all i had to do was save again and worked.... THANKS SO MUCH.
[00:11] <PMantis> actionParsnip: I don't see any option in ubuntu-tweak to set the lock screen background. Perhaps another place to look?
[00:11] <mcy> yes multipartitons
[00:11] <Smackbook> actionParsnip: except, yes it is, it is an ubuntu system which happens to have the xbmc-live metapackage installed.  and the problem is not with xbmc live
[00:11] <zykotick9> kristopher: "helping" is debatable ;)  the non-saving nvidia graphics [ i had to scroll back to remember ]
[00:11] <mcy> about 5
[00:11] <kristopher> i have rebooted and it worked flawlessly
[00:11] <zykotick9> kristopher: nice :)  well done
[00:12] <michealPW> DenverDave: Oh wait, I'm wrong. Use Xorg -configure
[00:12] <michealPW> instead :)
[00:12] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: only Canonical releases are supported here, spinoff distributions are not. So it's not supported here
[00:12] <DenverDave> michealPW, ok I did that.. where is the xorg.conf again?
[00:12] <Smackbook> this is 12.04 LTS
[00:12] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: Ubuntu is based on Debian, but if you ask for Ubuntu support in #debian you will be pointed here
[00:12] <Jordan_U> mcy: OK, you've probably lost most if not all of the data from the first partition, but the other partitions are probably fine.
[00:12] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: its a spinoff, just like the others, and like the others, it's not supported here
[00:13] <Smackbook> actionParsnip: 12.04 is a spinoff?
[00:13] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: no, xbmc live is a spinoff
[00:13] <Smackbook> actionParsnip: i understand what you are saying, but how am I not getting across that this is a problem with power saving settings in 12.04
[00:13] <kristopher> you were right its just that i had to pay more attention thank your knowledge. again thank cause this is a problem i have had with ubuntu for some time and it was my own fault not ubuntu.
[00:13] <usr13> mcy: Why don't you skip all the speculation and see what you have?
[00:13] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: you are using xbmc live, so your issue isn't supoprted here
[00:14] <Jordan_U> mcy: This step by step guide has as one of the examples what to do to restore a deleted partition, which is basically what you want to do: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[00:14] <mcy> yes i know,ive scan it .what im doing is try to restore
[00:14] <michealPW> DenverDave: Here, maybe this will be better help than me haha http://askubuntu.com/questions/129941/my-ubuntu-12-04-has-no-xorg-conf-is-that-normal
[00:14] <Jordan_U> mcy: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[00:15] <Smackbook> you are saying that when someone goes installs 12.04 LTS off the isos from ubuntu.org, then goes into synaptic and add a certain package, that the distribution is now a spinoff and not supported?
[00:15] <Smackbook> are ubuntu systems with packages installed no longer ubuntu?
[00:15] <giorgio> hi , i don't know how to troubleshoot this, but when i boot my laptop i get xbuntu then a black screen
[00:15] <usr13> Jordan_U: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[00:15] <nydel> is a 12.10 beta ready for wubi installations?
[00:16] <usr13> mcy: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[00:16] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: thats fine, but using 'XBMC live CD' is a spinoff, not supported here
[00:16] <giorgio> can anyone help me pleasr
[00:16] <DenverDave> michealPW, Thanks looking at that now
[00:16] <usr13> giorgio: Sure
[00:16] <rcmaehl> I need help with sensors. I've already run installed lm-sensors and ran sensors-detect however it still doesn't show the same amount of sensor data I get in Windows. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64-bit
[00:16] <usr13> mcy: ... and send us resulting URL
[00:16] <giorgio> usr13: i am on ubuntu 12.04
[00:16] <mcy> ..
[00:17] <michealPW> DenverDave: This method seems even easier http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1336863
[00:17] <michealPW> Same idea though, just a different approach.
[00:17] <usr13> giorgio: And.... (keep it all on one line.)
[00:17] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: if you aren't using a Canonical release, its not upported here. You are using XBMC live CD which is not a Canonical release, it's not supported here
[00:17] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: its hugely simple
[00:17] <WeThePeople> anybody know what this error means?>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284163/
[00:17] <bfortified> anyone here familiar with smuxi that can help me figure out the buffering/logging feature?
[00:18] <DenverDave> michealPW, Cool.. have to dive off to kill X now.. bbiab with results
[00:18] <Smackbook> actionParsnip: no offense, but you are obviously not aware that xbmc-live can be chosen as a desktop manager like ubuntu or gnome-classic
[00:18] <michealPW> Righto, good luck mate :P
[00:18] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: I'm very aware, I've used it
[00:18] <Jordan_U> bfortified: Have you tried asking in #smuxi?
[00:18] <bfortified> yea
[00:18] <vivid> nice one ubuntu, finally holding up to the hype!
[00:18] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: just that the xbmc liveCD distro isn't supported here. Its not ubuntu, it's only based on ubuntu
[00:18] <mcy> it is a 500GB hdd .testdisk needs 150 minutes to scan all of it
[00:18] <michealPW> WeThePeople: That's an error from Python when it tried to execute a script, I think?
[00:19] <vivid> thank you for a timely nvidia-experimental release :D
[00:19] <bfortified> Jordan_U: yea although i might have figured it out already low bandwidth mode maybe?
[00:19] <giorgio> usr13: i was working on it last time was yesterday and was browsing the net. now i tried and nothing but black screen
[00:19] <WeThePeople> michealpw, yes i know thanks
[00:19] <michealPW> nvm iunno what that's all about
[00:20] <mcy> and testdisk doesnot have a  Graphical interface
[00:20] <usr13> giorgio: Do you see anything prior to the black screen?  (Should be some information going by as it boots. Right?)
[00:20] <Smackbook> in my case I have lightdm replaced with uxlaunch running xbmc, there is no liveCD.  This is the official 12.04 release from ubuntu.org.  and you are telling me that because of my package configuration, it is not ubuntu
[00:20] <danielcsgomes> hi everyone
[00:20] <Smackbook> actionParsnip: ^
[00:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> actionParsnip: i just ran ubuntu-bug sound and i got "No pulseaudio fails to detect card"
[00:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> -No
[00:20] <danielcsgomes> I am facing an issue with the libsvn-perl
[00:20] <actionParsnip> !ops | Smackbook I've told you
[00:20] <mcy> y
[00:20] <usr13> giorgio: What happens when you do  Ctrl-Alt-F6?
[00:21] <danielcsgomes> I am on a ubuntu 12.04 and I installed git-svn and libsvn-perl
[00:21] <giorgio> usr13: nope, just xbuntu screen then black screen. i am chatting to you from the same laptop . i did alt-f1
[00:21] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> anyway you can run a server on ubuntu?
[00:21] <danielcsgomes> I have installed the perl 5.14.2 but when install the libsvn-perl it creates a new perl folder 5.10.1
[00:21] <OerHeks> WhereIsMySpoon, SB live 24 is a soundcard hard to control in linux.
[00:21] <danielcsgomes> anyone had this problem?
[00:21] <usr13> giorgio: You are using it now?  And all you have is a black screen?
[00:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> OerHeks: i dont have a specific soundcard
[00:21] <zykotick9> giorgio: you might want to look for lines the have EE in them in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[00:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> OerHeks: just onboard
[00:22] <usr13> giorgio: OH, so you are in tty1?
[00:22] <danielcsgomes> I'm getting the error: Can't locate SVN/Core.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/perl/5.14.2
[00:22] <giorgio> usr13: yes
[00:22] <Smackbook> actionParsnip: thats fine.  I welcome an Op to resolve this.  what you are saying is rediculous
[00:22] <usr13> giorgio: ls  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:23] <actionParsnip> !backtrack | Smackbook for example
[00:23] <michealPW> They wont "resolve" it, hehe, you're just going to get booted :P
[00:23] <usr13> giorgio: Does it tell you that the file does not exist?
[00:23] <giorgio> usr13: its there
[00:23] <actionParsnip> Jordan_U: can you assist please
[00:23] <danielcsgomes> anyone face this problem?
[00:23] <usr13> giorgio: mv  /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[00:23] <siulcastillo> hi
[00:23] <zykotick9> !derivatives | Smackbook actionParsnip
[00:23] <siulcastillo> what is it?
[00:23] <Smackbook> actionParsnip: thats fine, it makes perfect sense.  but I am not using an ubuntu derivative.  I am using standard ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[00:24] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> When I do Apt-Get upgrade i get FATAL -> Failed to fork.
[00:24] <usr13> giorgio: And just for the heck of it:  pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:24] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: xbmc live CD isn't ubuntu 12.04   it's only 'based' on 12.04
[00:24] <Smackbook> there is no live CD as you keep trying to tell me I am using in order to exclude me from support
[00:24] <usr13> giorgio: And send resulting URL.
[00:24] <danielcsgomes> siulcastillo: are you asking me?
[00:25] <muelli> !details | [_-S1L3NC3-_]
[00:25] <OerHeks> WhereIsMySpoon, my bad, mixed up with Guest39623
[00:25] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[00:25] <mcy> lame
[00:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> OerHeks: np
[00:25] <mcy> ...
[00:26] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> I have a problem executing apt-get upgrade ~  Ubuntu 11.10 (GNU/Linux 2.6.18-308.el5.028stab099.3 x86_64)  ~ i get when trying to upgrade ~ 58 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:26] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> FATAL -> Failed to fork.
[00:26] <mcy> i should go back to my original point
[00:26] <Jordan_U> Smackbook: Did you install Ubuntu from an official Ubuntu iso? If so, have you added any third party repositories since then?
[00:26] <DenverDave> michealPW, Im back.. and you said to change the xorg.conf section to just 4 5 right?
[00:27] <actionParsnip> Jordan_U: (01:09:58) Smackbook: is there any command to view or modify power saving settings through the terminal?  or file to edit?  my ubuntu seems to shut the monitor down after 10 minutes of inactivity, and I am running xbmc-live
[00:27] <michealPW> DenverDave: Right, open your xorg.conf and find the mouse's device section and add this: Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[00:27] <usr13> giorgio: Or, you can just give us the last 20 or so lines:  tail -n 20 /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[00:27] <giorgio> usr13: how can i yank the url from tty1 to here
[00:27] <WeThePeople> what does this error mean? and can anybody help fix it, it for autokey-gtk>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284163/
[00:28] <jrib> actionParsnip, Smackbook: I think there was some sort of miscommunication.  xbmc-live is just a package in ubuntu's repositories.  It may also be a live cd of some sort, but in this  Smackbook is saying he installed 12.04 from ubuntu and then installed the xbmc-live package
[00:28] <actionParsnip> !info xbmc-live
[00:28] <usr13> giorgio: just type it in
[00:28] <siulcastillo> hola
[00:28] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: my mistake, apologies
[00:28] <muelli> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: can you pastebin us the full output you get, including the very command you execute..?
[00:28] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> okay
[00:28] <usr13> giorgio: You can highlight it and do Shift-Ctrl-v   here
[00:28] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, do you know python?
[00:29] <actionParsnip> WeThePeople: not at all, the guys in #python will
[00:29] <fsgrawdsaf> hello. Is it possible to install ubuntu or any other *buntu distribution with dd to an pendrive, so that after first boot, everything is modificable?
[00:29] <xyzone> yes
[00:29] <danielcsgomes> I'm having a problem with libsvn-perl using apt-get, it install under 5.10.1 when the perl version installed is 5.14.2 anyone knows how to solve this?
[00:29] <danielcsgomes> tks in advance
[00:29] <usr13> giorgio: ... if you have mouse enabled in console mode, and if you are in the same tty, but probably not possible.  But It's not important.  You can just try and restart the xserver
[00:29] <DenverDave> michealPW, I changed it to that.. still no dice
[00:29] <xyzone> fsgrawdsaf, better to use unetbootin
[00:30] <zykotick9> fsgrawdsaf: why with dd or pendrive?  just install to the usb, like a regular HD.
[00:30] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: I have an xorg.conf file with this at the bottom: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284174/
[00:30]  * [_-S1L3NC3-_] ~ ~ ~   http://pastebin.com/yiDASr18
[00:30] <actionParsnip> Smackbook: also check power settings and screen saver settings
[00:30] <Smackbook> jrib: man ok, jrib thanks, actionParsnip, thats ok
[00:30] <fsgrawdsaf> xyzone: no, unetbootin is not a choise. It uses fat32 filesystem
[00:30] <michealPW> DenverDave: Righto, once you've added that to your xorg.conf and xorg.conf is in the right location, just restart
[00:30] <Smackbook> thanks i will dig around in there
[00:30] <usr13> giorgio:  sudo service lightdm restart
[00:30] <jrib> Smackbook: did « xset q » not show anything interesting regarding power-saving features or screensavers?
[00:31] <fsgrawdsaf> zykotick9: the installation should run via dd
[00:31] <DenverDave> michealPW, Ok then.. and right location would be?
[00:31] <xyzone> fsgrawdsaf, then just regular install to usb
[00:31] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> brb
[00:31] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> notice me if needed
[00:31] <fsgrawdsaf> not regual installation. so it should be an already bootable edition
[00:31] <zykotick9> fsgrawdsaf: so, install correctly once.  then image to the usb drive.
[00:31] <giorgio> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284172
[00:31] <xyzone> but for linux fs, anything but ext2 is silly on flash drive
[00:31] <Smackbook> jrib: eh trying that now
[00:31] <michealPW> DenverDave: /etc/X11/
[00:32] <fsgrawdsaf> zykotick9: then its not compressed any more
[00:32] <DenverDave> michealPW, Ok when I ran the Xorg -configure it put it in my home dir so I am going to move it there now.. brb
[00:32] <zykotick9> fsgrawdsaf: if you still want casper, or want to install from it, then ya - i don't have a suggestion.
[00:33] <michealPW> DenverDave: Righto. You'll have to use sudo and cp. like sudo cp ~/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:33] <fsgrawdsaf> zykotick9: it should fit to a realy small usb pendrive
[00:33] <mcy> 救命啊
[00:33] <michealPW> Iunno where exactly it put it I can't remember
[00:33] <giorgio> usr13: lightdm restart did not do it
[00:33] <zykotick9> fsgrawdsaf: sorry, i got nothin'.  best of luck.
[00:34] <fsgrawdsaf> Does anybody here know a distribution that is "normaly" installed with dd and just dont own an insaller or something else?
[00:35] <danielcsgomes> if I unnistall perl on ubuntu 12.04 and install it again what issues can I expect'
[00:35] <danielcsgomes> ?
[00:36] <giorgio> !seen usr13
[00:36] <jrib> danielcsgomes: umm, why do you want to do that?  I bet a lot of things depend on perl
[00:36] <actionParsnip> fsgrawdsaf: ubuntu liveCD desktop has dd by default
[00:36] <zykotick9> danielcsgomes: probably none.  it will be exactly the same.  uninstall/reinstall seldom does anything on gnu/linux.  purge might do more.  and stuff in your home directory can also be an issue.
[00:37] <fsgrawdsaf> actionParsnip: ??? You dont understand.what i mean
[00:37] <genii-around> actionParsnip: I sort of thought they meant more like some dist that you just dd an image to a drive and it's done, no installer
[00:37] <vulcanmum> ok my internet went wonky there for a minute
[00:37] <DenverDave> michealPW, No dice
[00:37] <vulcanmum> michaelni,  are you still in here?
[00:37] <actionParsnip> genii-around: fsgrawdsaf: Oh I thought you  just needed the tool
[00:38] <zykotick9> fsgrawdsaf: an "install" from dd, makes little to no sense.  but regardless, ubuntu is not installed in that manner, so it's OT here.
[00:38] <vulcanmum> or was it michealPW  that was helping me?
[00:39] <michealPW> Yup here
[00:39] <vulcanmum> hi michealPW  do you have any suggestions on how to get clementine to import from my harddrive? or will I have to just copy to my flashdrive using windows?
[00:40] <danielcsgomes> jrib: zykotick9 I want to install libsvn-perl under 5.14.2
[00:40] <danielcsgomes> but it installs it under 5.10.1 when my perl version is 5.14.2
[00:40] <danielcsgomes> I need it for git-svn
[00:40] <zykotick9> !info libsvn-perl
[00:40] <jrib> danielcsgomes: what ubuntu version?
[00:41] <michealPW> DenverDave: In a terminal, try typing this: xmodmap -pp
[00:41] <danielcsgomes> 12.04 precise
[00:41] <giorgio> usr13: are you still there
[00:41] <michealPW> DenverDave: A useful tool for showing the output of tools like xmodmap is PasteBin. Install pastebinit (sudo apt-get install pastebinit) and then you can issue that command like this: xmodmap -pp | pastebinit
[00:41] <uw> so there's no more synamptic i guess hmmm?
[00:41] <jrib> danielcsgomes: so what's the exact issue with simply using the version in the repositories that you get by doing « sudo apt-get install libsvn-perl »?
[00:42] <giorgio> actionParsnip: can you assist me please
[00:42] <vulcanmum> I think I'm just getting lost in here, I think most chatters in here are experienced users...I'm just a newbie not knowing anything
[00:42] <michealPW> DenverDave: That will run the command, pipe it's output to pastebinit and pastebinit will create a PasteBin post and return a link to it all automatically hehe
[00:42] <fsgrawdsaf> zykotick9: ah, find something. Debian Live have prebild images for exactly this (USB-HDD image). Is there the same from ubuntu?
[00:42] <uw> giorgio, thats a good way to not get help
[00:43] <michealPW> vulcanmum: Well, I'm not familiar with Clementine sorry. Where on your hard drive is your music, do you know the path?
[00:43] <zykotick9> fsgrawdsaf: that's true.  i only tried usb-hdd once.  no ubuntu doesn't have that (as far as i know).
[00:43] <alg34> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=02c9ae578f9f9b7a56540493eccef27009b1efb5
[00:43] <zykotick9> fsgrawdsaf: <OT> debin-live doesn't impress me though </OT>
[00:43] <vulcanmum> no I really don't
[00:43] <DenverDave> michealPW, I rand xmodmap -pp and it is a 1 for 1 down the line
[00:44] <alg34> using sb24bit live. no sound
[00:44] <actionParsnip> alg34: Natty is EOL in a matter of weeks, I suggest you upgrade to a later release
[00:44] <danielcsgomes> jrib: the issue is that when I run < sudo apt-get install libsvn-perl> it installs the files under /usr/lib/perl/5.10.1
[00:44] <danielcsgomes> and my perl version is 5.14.2
[00:44] <michealPW> vulcanmum: So in Clementine click on Settings (If you're using Ubuntu you'll have to push your mouse to the top of the screen to see the File | Edit | Settings menus) and then in Settings, click on Music Library tab
[00:44] <vulcanmum> do most of the people in here do their own coding for ubuntu?
[00:44] <michealPW> vulcanmum: In there, you will point Clementine to the folder on your hard drive your music is in.
[00:44] <actionParsnip> alg34: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install --reinstall pavucontrol linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     Wait 10 seconds and reboot
[00:45] <deadmund> vulcanmum: most people in here do not code (I think)
[00:45] <jrib> danielcsgomes: I'm not familiar with perl packaging, but how are you determining that?
[00:45] <orlok> Is there any way to enforce password strength policies under Ubuntu?
[00:45] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> back
[00:45] <deadmund> vulcanmum: the usuals probably all code
[00:45] <actionParsnip> .msg alg34 hi
[00:45] <danielcsgomes> jrib: finding the system for the files it should installed
[00:45] <michealPW> DenverDave: Well, xmodmap -pp will show you what mouse buttons were found and mapped
[00:45] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ! http://pastebin.com/yiDASr18
[00:45] <michealPW> DenverDave: Useful to figure out what's going on. Try using pastebinit like I suggested, it helps a lot :P
[00:45] <vulcanmum> wait so the usuals are not in here is that what you're saying? lol
[00:45] <DenverDave> michealPW,  well there ya go
[00:45] <jrib> danielcsgomes: can you pastebin the result of « apt-cache policy libsvn-perl; dpkg -L libsvn-perl »?
[00:45] <danielcsgomes> jrib: if you see the package it should install under /usr/lib/perl5/ directory
[00:45] <DenverDave> :)
[00:46] <giorgio> uw: but this is not fair! i spent a good 30 min  explaining my problem and the guy was helping me disappeared :)
[00:46] <giorgio> now i will have to explain it again ;)
[00:46] <giorgio> here we go.
[00:46] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> lol
[00:46] <actionParsnip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[00:47] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[00:47] <actionParsnip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: what was 'lol' for?
[00:47] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok thanks
[00:47] <danielcsgomes> jrib: http://pastie.org/5070693
[00:47] <michealPW> DenverDave: When I type xmodmap -pp it says: "There are 13 pointer buttons defined." then lists them all in a table
[00:47] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> 58 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:47] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> FATAL -> Failed to fork.
[00:47] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> same error
[00:48] <actionParsnip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: the command takes awhile to run.
[00:48] <actionParsnip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: again, why the 'lol', please?
[00:48] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> lol @ in regards to giorgio explaining again
[00:48] <DenverDave> michealPW,  same for me
[00:48] <actionParsnip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: I see, makes sense :D
[00:48] <jrib> danielcsgomes: look at your apt-cache policy output
[00:49] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> so nothings happening actionparsnip
[00:49] <giorgio> i am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my hp dv7. it was running fine till last night. i came from work and i power it up and all what i get is a black screen (after bios screen , i get Xbuntu background for a second then black screen. i am using tty2 on the same laptop to chat here with you. i don't know where to start to troubleshoot this! can i get help here please. thank you in advance
[00:49] <actionParsnip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: if you just have a cursor flashing, its because the command is running
 why do you have amd64 and i386 package lists ?
[00:49] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> oh ok
[00:49] <xyzone> giorgio, press e at grub and enter 3 at the kernel line, then press f10
[00:50] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> idk lol
[00:50] <actionParsnip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: your system isn't as fast as you think
[00:50] <michealPW> DenverDave: So, first do: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:50] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[00:50] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i shall wait
[00:50] <danielcsgomes> jrib: didn't understood is
[00:50] <giorgio> xyzone: how do i get to grub
[00:50] <DenverDave> michealPW, done that
[00:50] <michealPW> DenverDave: Then, do: xmodmap -pp | pastebinit
[00:50] <DenverDave> michealPW, did that too
[00:50] <DenverDave> it pasted it here
[00:50] <DenverDave> doing it again
[00:50] <michealPW> Then copy/paste the link to me :P
[00:51] <jrib> danielcsgomes: well, what repository is being listed in the version with the "***" by it?
[00:51] <michealPW> Oh, I missed it sorry about that hehe I still can't see it
 are you on backtrack ?
[00:51] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> i have backtrack 5, but no?
[00:51] <jrib> danielcsgomes: you have some third party repository ("wandisco") and that's the cause of your issues.
[00:51] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> its running on a VPS
[00:52] <actionParsnip> oh jeez VPS are always a pain
[00:52] <giorgio> xyzone: i typed grup from tty2 and what i get was that grub is not installed and i need to do apt-get install grub
[00:52] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> can be
[00:53] <danielcsgomes> jrib: where it could be?
[00:53] <jrib> danielcsgomes: what do you mean?  Where what could be?
[00:53] <uw> what is a good way to get codecs
[00:53] <dr_willis> uw:  install ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[00:54] <actionParsnip> uw: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:54] <danielcsgomes> jrib: where can I find that repo to remove it
[00:54] <danielcsgomes> source list?
[00:54] <jrib> danielcsgomes: it would be somewhere in your /etc/apt/sources.list*
[00:54] <Dacs> xyzone: any suggestions please
[00:54] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> actionParsnip        still nothing is happening
[00:54] <uw> thanks dr_willis and actionParsnip
[00:55]  * Dacs previouslly known as giorgio
[00:55] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> lol
[00:55] <Dacs> i am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my hp dv7. it was running fine till last night. i came from work and i power it up and all what i get is a black screen (after bios screen , i get Xbuntu background for a second then black screen. i am using tty2 on the same laptop to chat here with you. i don't know where to start to troubleshoot this! can i get help here please. thank you in advance
[00:55] <uglyoldbob> Im having a problem upgrading from 10.04 LTS to 12.04LTS. The message for upgrading to the new release is not showing up when following the guide at (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades)
 how did you add the amd64 or i386 repo's ? this is not from a install, you must have edit the sources list somehowe. reverse that.
[00:56] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> sources list
[00:56] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[00:56] <actionParsnip> [_-S1L3NC3-_]: let it run dude, it'll get there
[00:56] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> so nano and delete em ?
[00:56] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> ok
[00:57] <danielcsgomes> jrib: tks I think I found it
[00:57] <Radikal08> Is there anything I can do? On windows or Mac, I can download in around 300 KB/s as my router is to bad to deliver higher speeds... but on Ubuntu i can only download in 40 KB/s...
[00:57] <danielcsgomes> I got a svn.list under source list.d folder
[00:57] <danielcsgomes> pointing to lucid :S
[00:58] <danielcsgomes> now is ok
[01:01] <Dacs> any help folks please
[01:02] <Dinomuffin> Dacs, what happens when you enter 'startx' in the terminal
[01:02] <dr_willis> Dacs:  So the login graphical screen works or not?
[01:02] <Dinomuffin> actaully nevermind
[01:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> If i wanted to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 would i first do aptitude full-upgrade?
[01:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> or just apt-get upgrade
[01:02] <WhereIsMySpoon> i have aptitude and apt installed
[01:02] <dr_willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  you use the upgrade tools. not aptitude.
[01:02] <simosx> offtopic: Gangman Style on Ubuntu, http://simos.info/blog/archives/1272 ;-)
[01:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: so just apt?
[01:03] <Programmer_> is /usr/sbin/dnsmasq required?
[01:03] <Dacs> dr_willis: i don't get it
[01:03] <Programmer_> it got me in trouble with my university
[01:03] <dr_willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  theres a specific tool. do-release-upgrade
[01:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: its bugged
[01:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: used it to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 and had to manually remove /run
[01:03] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: its a confirmed bug
[01:04] <dr_willis> Dacs:  do you get the graphical Login screen?
[01:04] <Dinomuffin> Dacs, type 'startxfce4' in the terminal
[01:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/908614
[01:05] <Dacs> dr_willis: no i don't
[01:05]  * firebalrog starts
[01:05] <Dacs> Dinomuffin: that did it!
[01:05] <firebalrog> startx
[01:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> im kinda hesitant to use that command again now that happened
[01:05] <Dinomuffin> Dacs, cool
[01:05] <Dacs> Dinomuffin: thank you...so now how can i search to find out what happend to cause this
[01:05] <Dacs> diminoten: to learn for future
[01:06] <particledust_> hi
[01:06] <particledust_> can anyone help?
[01:06] <Dacs> dr_willis: thank you for your help as well
[01:06] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> actionParsnip       still nothing
[01:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> !ask | particledust_
[01:06] <Dinomuffin> Dacs, you might try in the Xorg log or syslog
[01:06] <Dinomuffin> i'm not sure where xfce4 errors are logged to
[01:06] <Dinomuffin> or if it was xfce4
[01:06] <particledust_> i have installed mplabx on my ubuntu but i can launch it?
[01:06] <Dinomuffin> xorg might of asploded
[01:07] <vulcanmum> ok I really need some help guys
[01:07] <Dinomuffin> Dacs, was this the first time it happened?
[01:07] <Dacs> Dinomuffin: yes sir
[01:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: is there another way to upgrade whilst keeping my system mostly intact?
[01:07] <Dinomuffin> Dacs, well, it might of been a fluke then
[01:07] <vulcanmum> my screen keeps going black while I'm using ubuntu, is it my monitor? it doesn't seem to do it when I'm using windows...
[01:07] <michealPW> Xorg never asplodes, it's rox solids!
[01:07] <dr_willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  i never upgrade, i always clean install.
[01:07] <Dinomuffin> Dacs, I've had it happen before too
[01:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: i have a load of programs installed and user envs i dont want to lose
[01:08] <uglyoldbob> so im using ubuntu 10.04lts and do-release-upgrade says "no new release found"
[01:08] <Dacs> Dinomuffin: cool, thank you again sir i will do i full reboot to see if i come across it again
[01:08] <dr_willis> I keep my /home/ on its own HD. so its not an issue for me WhereIsMySpoon
[01:08] <vulcanmum> do I have a bad copy of ubuntu?
[01:08] <Dinomuffin> Dacs, sure no prob
[01:08] <zykotick9> dr_willis: +1 on ubuntu clean install over upgrade
[01:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> uglyoldbob: sudo apt-get update
[01:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: isnt an option for me
[01:08] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: also /home doesnt contain installed programs
[01:08] <vulcanmum> am I not showing up in here?
[01:08] <particledust_> i want to run mplabx after i installed the run file
[01:09] <dr_willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  i keep a list of what i always install and reinstall from the list.
[01:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: mm well i dont have a spare hdd
[01:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> and i havent done that
[01:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> so is there some way i can upgrade?
[01:09] <vulcanmum> can someone help me please
[01:09] <zykotick9> particledust_: "./foo.run && mplabx" might work?  fyi, installing run/bins might not be the best install method on ubuntu?
[01:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: whats the difference between sudo apt-get upgrade and your command
[01:10] <vulcanmum> is it because I'm a chick? lol
[01:10] <Dinomuffin> vulcanmum, what happens when you press ctrl + alt + f1 when it happens?
[01:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> vulcanmum: nobody can possibly know your rl sex
[01:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> vulcanmum: so no
[01:11] <vulcanmum> well it only goes black for a second or two
[01:11] <dr_willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  to upgrade your ubuntu system o a newer release you want to use  the do-release-upgrade method. Just relying on apt and altering your sources.list is not the 'ubuntu way'   debian might do it that way - ive never really looked into it.
[01:11] <Dinomuffin> so, it just goes black for a second then comes back up normal?
[01:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: well as per the launchpad i linked, do-release-upgrade is broken
[01:11] <vulcanmum> yes Dinomuffin
[01:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> soooooo
[01:11] <Dinomuffin> vulcanmum, randomly, or at certain times?
[01:11] <vulcanmum> randomly
[01:11] <dr_willis> so id say wait for teh bug to get fixed..
[01:12] <particledust_> command not found
[01:12] <dr_willis> using the apt-get way will most likely break things even more
[01:12] <Dinomuffin> do the windows dissapear when it happens? like you just started it up?
[01:12] <vulcanmum> sometimes several times sometimes it pauses for awhile
[01:12] <genii-around> uglyoldbob: Check that Prompt=lts in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[01:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> dr_willis: more than ubuntu not booting? :p
[01:12] <vulcanmum> no Dinomuffin just blacks out for a second and comes back to what was already on the screen
[01:12] <Dinomuffin> hm
[01:12] <Dinomuffin> maybe drivers then
[01:13] <dr_willis> WhereIsMySpoon:  clean install then..  i guess.. or check the bug reports and forums for a work around  to get around the bug.
[01:13] <vulcanmum> well what do I do Dinomuffin
[01:13] <particledust_> how can i run a program after having it installed
[01:13] <particledust_> ?
[01:14] <deadmund> particledust_: type the name of the program into the terminal
[01:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> particledust_: type the program name into a term
[01:14] <particledust_> command not found
[01:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> particledust_: if i installed chromium, i would type "chromium-browser" into a term
[01:14] <particledust_> mplabx
[01:14] <firebalrog> Close your eyes and hope that it runs on its own
[01:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> particledust_: then it isnt installed or that isnt its name
[01:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> particledust_: or you didnt install it as super
[01:15] <particledust_> i did
[01:15] <Dinomuffin> vulcanmum: can you post your Xorg log to a pastebin?
[01:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> particledust_: its one of those three
[01:15] <Dacs> Dinomuffin: after reboot i got the samething :(
[01:15] <vulcanmum> I dont know how to do that Dinomuffin  I'm really new to ubuntu
[01:15] <particledust_> i did install as super
[01:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> vulcanmum: open log in gedit, ctrl-a, ctrl-c, open up www.pastebin.com, paste into that
[01:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> particledust_: then you're using the wrong name
[01:16] <vulcanmum> where is gedit?
[01:16] <Dinomuffin> Dacs: hm
[01:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> vulcanmum: just do "gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> "
[01:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> without the quotes
[01:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> in a term
[01:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> vulcanmum: get used to opening programs via the terminal rather than double clicking them
[01:17] <dr_willis> or the dashs search feature. :)
[01:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> vulcanmum: its so much quicker to go "myProgram <aFile>" than navigate to program, double click, open file, find file, double click
[01:18] <rking> Do user crontabs (e.g. crontab -e) not get run by default?  (12.04)
[01:18] <vulcanmum> so type gedit/var/log/xorg.0.log into terminal?
[01:18] <jrib> rking: they do get run by default
[01:18] <dr_willis> vulcanmum:  use proper spaces....
[01:18]  * jrib awaits real question
[01:18] <dr_willis> COMMAND filetoworkon
[01:19] <vulcanmum> so a space after gedit?
[01:19] <dr_willis> vulcanmum:  the command is 'gedit' not 'gedit/var/whatever'   so .. YES>..
[01:19] <rking> jrib: Iunno. I'm helping a friend get his crontab going. He's on Ubuntu, and it's definitely not even firing (nothig in /var/log/* about it). I do the same sequence on my Gentoo/Debian systems and it goes fine.
[01:19] <DaemonicApathy> vulcanmum: copy and paste if needed: gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:19] <dr_willis> spaces and proper CASE is imporntant in linux vulcanmum .
[01:20] <jrib> rking: it's easier if your friend just joins here
[01:20] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[01:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> wtf
[01:20] <Dacs> any other suggestion Dinomuffin ?
[01:21] <vulcanmum> alright I'm lost
[01:21] <itsswift> Hey anyone got suggestions on brightness reseting to max after my screen dims from lack of use
[01:21] <DaemonicApathy> itsswift, you might turn off dimming.
[01:21] <dr_willis> vulcanmum:  if somthing like 'gedit filename' has you lost. You may want to look into reading some bash/command line tutorials..
[01:21] <itsswift> Any idea where to find that setting ?
[01:22] <jrib> rking: but yes, ubuntu will run user crontabs by default.  Make sure your friend is editing his by using « crontab -e ».  What else... Make sure he has used sane syntax for the time specification.  Make sure it's not a PATH issue.  Those are the usual culprits
[01:22] <DaemonicApathy> Applications > System Settings > Brightness and Lock
[01:22] <Dacs> should i install grub ?
[01:22] <itsswift> TY
[01:22] <DaemonicApathy> itsswift: any time
[01:22] <rking> jrib: Yeah.
[01:22] <rking> jrib: I had him put in 1 * * * * asdfasdf and it isn't telling him anything.
[01:22] <rking> jrib: You know what's severely messed up on his system?  The "mail" command. It doesn't exist.
[01:23] <Dinomuffin> Dacs: mind posting your xorg log to a pastebin?
[01:23] <jrib> rking: ubuntu doesn't have an MTA by default.  "1 * * * *" will only on the first minute of every hour
[01:23] <Dacs> Dinomuffin: i was about to fo that, because i tried to startx and i got an error :)
[01:23] <genii-around> rking: I think you need mailutils for that
[01:23] <DaemonicApathy> rking: I don't believe 'mail' is installed by default in ubuntu.
[01:23] <DenverDave> michealPW, Hello Im back
[01:24] <WeThePeople> dacs, what was the error
[01:24] <rking> jrib: Hehe, oh yeah.
[01:24] <aaron__> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=38479edd3020e1a366f11bd1011b06622efaef86
[01:24] <rking> Thanks.
[01:24] <aaron__> no sound
[01:24] <vulcanmum> ok I have the log what do I do with it now?
[01:25] <Dacs> Dinomuffin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284223
[01:25] <ron__> can someone help me with a problem i am having on lubuntu? i can't install libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0. or rather i can't update and it keeps asking me too. without updating i can't download things like libre office.
[01:25] <DaemonicApathy> vulcanmum: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[01:25] <defekt> !pastbin | vulcanmum
[01:25] <Dacs> WeThePeople: i think because i tried to run it with sudo , not sure
[01:25] <wslyfor> 有人吗？
[01:26] <Dinomuffin> thanks
[01:26] <Dinomuffin> WeThePeople: his xfce session isn't starting automatically
[01:27] <bazhang> !cn | wslyfor
[01:27] <defekt> !jp | wslyfor
[01:27] <DenverDave> thanks everyone
[01:27] <wslyfor> oh,sorry
[01:28] <Dacs> Dinomuffin: WeThePeople as much as i need your help folks to get this working, i can't bare the wife nagging to go to the store
[01:28] <aaron__> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=38479edd3020e1a366f11bd1011b06622efaef86-----I have no sound......Help
[01:28] <vulcanmum> ok I opened pastebin
[01:28] <Dacs> Dinomuffin: WeThePeople thank you folks for trying and i will get back here and ask my question again
[01:28] <Dinomuffin> Dacs: sorry, i'm pretty sure its a config issue
[01:28] <Dinomuffin> Dacs: ok
[01:29] <Dacs> Dinomuffin: no worries mate. is there a way i can reconfig it
[01:29] <vulcanmum> so I put the log into the content of the pastebin how?
[01:29] <Dacs> reconfig Xorg
[01:29] <dr_willis> pastebinit /path/to/the/logfile   is a typical example command usage vulcanmum
[01:29] <ron__> can someone help me update my libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 an error keeps occurring.
[01:29] <Dinomuffin> Dacs: it's not xorg
[01:30] <Dinomuffin> Dacs: I'm not seeing any signs of xorg killing it
[01:30] <nerdcore> I really liked the netbook-launcher and maximus setup of 10.04 netbook edition. Is there a way I can get that setup under 12.04 desktop?
[01:30] <Dinomuffin> Dacs: you might try reinstalling xfce4-session
[01:30] <Dacs> Dinomuffin: how
[01:30] <vulcanmum> I'm sorry dr...I don't know how to do that, my friend told me I would be able to use ubuntu
[01:30] <Dacs> just via apt Dinomuffin
[01:30] <Dinomuffin> Dacs: yeah
[01:31] <Dinomuffin> that's what I would try anyways
[01:31] <Dacs> Dinomuffin: cool man , thank you again
[01:31] <Dacs> later
[01:31] <aaron__> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=38479edd3020e1a366f11bd1011b06622efaef86
[01:31] <dr_willis> vulcanmum:  you use the command 'pastebinit' and give the full path to the log file afterwards...       Or open the log file in a text editor. and copy/paste it into  the pastebin web sites text entry field.
[01:32] <vulcanmum> ok I did that dr what do I do now?
[01:33] <vulcanmum> is this going to help my computer stop blacking out like that?
[01:34] <ruesy> hello
[01:34] <dr_willis> vulcanmum:  the pastebinit command returns a url of the paste.. or you give the url here from the web site.
[01:34] <dr_willis> vulcanmum:  i have no idea what your original issue is.. im just explaining how pastebin  and pastebinit works.
[01:35] <aaron__> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=38479edd3020e1a366f11bd1011b06622efaef86
[01:35] <vulcanmum> my screen keeps blacking out for a couple of seconds then comes back up, someone told me to pastebin my log for some reason
[01:35] <bazhang> !repeat | aaron__
[01:36] <dr_willis> vulcanmum:  to look for errors most likely
[01:36] <vulcanmum> oh someone was going to look for errors for me?
[01:36] <dr_willis> errors messages are normally in the log files  - yes...
[01:38] <vulcanmum> I have another question, when I was downloading ubuntu it was saying how it was for everyone etc. I don't see how older people with even less computer knowledge than me could use ubuntu
[01:38] <dr_willis> vulcanmum:  my wife who is 51 yrs  old has no issues using ubuntu
[01:38] <vulcanmum> well that's not older lol
[01:39] <dr_willis> If you have hardware/driver issues in windows - you would be in the same 'state'
[01:39] <vulcanmum> will I ever be able to figure this out even tho I'm not a programmer? Or do you think I'm a lost cause?
[01:39] <dr_willis> hardware makers make it harder to achive the same level of support in ubuntu/linux as you get in windows.
[01:40] <bazhang> !manual | vulcanmum
[01:40] <dr_willis> vulcanmum:   Depending on your hardware, you may have had no problems whatso ever.. or 12.10 (the next release) may work just find.
[01:40] <dr_willis> fine.
[01:40] <dr_willis> and yes.. a read of the ubuntu manual is worth the time.
[01:40] <bazhang> !rute | vulcanmum
[01:40] <vulcanmum> that would be good
[01:40] <genii-around> particledust_:    . /opt/microchip/mplabx/mplab_ide/bin/mplab_ide
[01:40] <dr_willis> They really should put a big ICON on the panel pointing to the ubuntu manual. ;)
[01:40] <vulcanmum> the next release is coming out soon?
[01:41] <dr_willis> vulcanmum:   a few days i think.,
[01:41] <vulcanmum> yes I heard thursday
[01:41] <dr_willis> this channel will be total chaos for the week afterwards. ;)
[01:41] <dr_willis> i tend to not hang in here for the 2 weeks or so following a new release. ;) just to stressfull.
[01:42] <vulcanmum> I know you guys think I'm an idiot, I'm really not, I've just been stuck on dial up since 97 and haven't used the computer a lot other than simple browsing
[01:42] <dr_willis> 3000+ people in a channel is a bit much.
[01:43] <dr_willis> crawl, walk, run... then with Linux.. FLY... ;)
[01:43] <vulcanmum> Is the person that was going to look at my code still here?
[01:43] <dr_willis> Good night all..  bed time for the Dr.
[01:44] <vulcanmum> guess not, so is there a helpful programmer in here that could check out my code?
[01:44] <deadmund> vulcanmum: let's see it
[01:44] <deadmund> vulcanmum: what are you trying to do?
[01:44] <vulcanmum> thank you dead
[01:45] <vulcanmum> well I'm a new user and I'm not a programmer but sometimes my screen goes completely black for a second then comes back up to normal, it's not doing it right now but sometimes it's like over and over
[01:45] <vulcanmum> someone wanted me to pastebin my log so they could check for errors I guess
[01:45] <deadmund> vulcanmum: sounds like X is crashing.  Is it going black as a result of the programming you're running?
[01:46] <vulcanmum> it seems to be doing it at random times
[01:46] <deadmund> vulcanmum: Well then why is your code relevant?
[01:46] <vulcanmum> I was so scared it was my monitor, I'm very poor so wouldnt be able to buy a new one
[01:46] <vulcanmum> someone told me to show them the log idk
[01:46] <christoper> hello
[01:47] <vulcanmum> someone said something about drivers...
[01:47] <vulcanmum> hi christopher
[01:47] <christoper> does the ubuntu desktop installer require internet if i allready have it downloaded?
[01:48] <kantlivelong> christoper: dont believe so
[01:48] <kantlivelong> christoper: minus proprietary drivers
[01:49] <christoper> what do u mean minus proprietary drivers?
[01:49] <vulcanmum> deadmund,  you still there?
[01:50] <deadmund> vulcanmum: got a phone call...
[01:50] <deadmund> hang on
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> christoper, You might give an end goal here rather then hypothetical's, there could be updates you not have for example.
[01:50] <vulcanmum> brb
[01:54] <vulcanmum> are there always so many inactive chatters in here?
[01:55] <OerHeks> vulcanmum, yes.
[01:55] <vulcanmum> not like idle time boot?
[01:56] <OerHeks> vulcanmum, idle time boot ?
[01:57] <OerHeks> vulcanmum, some idle and read to learn, others just idle and help when they feel like it.
[01:57] <vulcanmum> oh ok that's cool just wondering, this is only the third irc chat I've ever used
[01:59] <OerHeks> vulcanmum, this irc channel was my first start too, learned a lot from questions and answers rollin by
[02:00] <Guest70683> hi ppl iam in need of help please if anyone can help me , i recently installed crunchbang linux on my pc because windows xp stuffed up onm me , and now i have downloaded windows 7 but it wont install on my hard drive because its not a ntfs ? is there anyway i can p[artition some of my main drive to have windows as a secondary o/s? , i have tried going through g-part to partition my drive but it wont let me CAN anyoine help me please
[02:01] <[K][N][K]> hi ppl iam in need of help please if anyone can help me , i recently installed crunchbang linux on my pc because windows xp stuffed up onm me , and now i have downloaded windows 7 but it wont install on my hard drive because its not a ntfs ? is there anyway i can p[artition some of my main drive to have windows as a secondary o/s? , i have tried going through g-part to partition my drive but it wont let me CAN anyoine help me please
[02:01] <vulcanmum> ok I just opened http://wiki.x.org and my screen started to do the black out thing...
[02:01] <OerHeks> [K][N][K], crunchbang is not supported here, also wrong channel for windows.
[02:01] <bazhang> !gparted > [K][N][K]
[02:02] <vulcanmum> when I closed theh window it stopped blinking...what is going on?
[02:02] <vulcanmum> I thought I could get help there but I can't read it, it blacks out so rapidly
[02:03] <vulcanmum> my daughter wants to know if everyone in here are boys lol
[02:04] <mathfreak> male here :S
[02:04] <OerHeks> on what browser, vulcanmum ?
[02:05] <vulcanmum> firefox
[02:05] <vulcanmum> it's blinking again and I haven't opened anything new
[02:06] <thechaser> can anyone help me im trying to install a usb dvd burner on ubuntu 12.04.. cant figure out how to to do it..
[02:06] <Fudge> any quantal kernels backported to precise?
[02:06] <vulcanmum> this is so irritating, I really want to use ubuntu, it's been great until this problem started happening
[02:07] <mathfreak> what's the problem?
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> thechaser, It does not show up when plugged in? What is the model?
[02:07] <thor_> guts I have aproblem with my grahic card, it is an nvidia 6100, the installed driver is the 173, but ubuntu says: grahic controller unknow
[02:07] <thechaser> Nope its a Ienovo
[02:07] <vulcanmum> my screen keeps blacking out and coming back up
[02:07] <OerHeks> vulcanmum, check the cable to your pc ?
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> thechaser, What if you put a disc in it?
[02:08] <vulcanmum> I did, it seems like it wasn't doing it on windows
[02:08] <thechaser> All i have tried was a blank and nothing shows up
[02:08] <XiaolinDraconis> how do i install awn-extras? i got the tar.gz from launchpad, the instructions are not noob friendly.
[02:08] <mathfreak> vulcanmum:  what sort of "blacking out" is it like? Is it like turning on and off repeatedly?
[02:08] <vulcanmum> yes mathfreak
[02:09] <thor_> guys I have aproblem with my grahic card, it is an nvidia 6100, the installed driver is the 173, but ubuntu says: grahic controller unknow
[02:09] <vulcanmum> sometimes it stops for awhile
[02:09] <zenlunatic> s88
[02:09] <thor_> If I change the driver for the courrent version, the screen feel down and turn it in black
[02:09] <vulcanmum> sometimes it does it in rapid succession
[02:09] <mathfreak> hmmm
[02:09] <thor_> sorry was fall
[02:10] <thechaser> Any ideas?
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> thechaser, I found this link a little old but a lenovo dvd device. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1552636
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> check #2
[02:11] <vulcanmum> someone mentioned drivers and someone wanted my log
[02:11] <mathfreak> good place to start
[02:11] <thechaser> Thanks ill check it over!
[02:11] <OerHeks> vulcanmum, check additional drivers if there is a driver available.
[02:11] <vulcanmum> start where mathfreak I'm a new user
[02:12] <vulcanmum> ok let me check thanks
[02:12] <mathfreak> ok, on the Ubuntu machine, bring up a terminal. Press alt-F2, type in "gnome-terminal" and press enter
[02:12] <vulcanmum> it says no
[02:13] <mathfreak> after the terminal comes up, go ahead and type "sudo lshw -C video"
[02:13] <vulcanmum> ok
[02:13] <mathfreak> enter password when prompted.
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> thechaser, As well lsusb in the terminal will list usb devices see.
[02:14] <mathfreak> paste the results to pastebin.com when you're ready, vulcanmum
[02:14] <thechaser> Alright so i figured it out and feel kinda dumb.. i just switched the usb cord it has two of them a long one and a short one and the shorter one worked lol
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> thechaser, Usually two cords mean a power and a data cord, is this the case here?
[02:15] <thechaser> yeah lol
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> hehe it happens. ;)
[02:16] <vulcanmum> its just four letters...
[02:16] <vulcanmum> was it sudo lshw -C video?
[02:16] <mathfreak> yep
[02:17] <vulcanmum> ok just paste that to pastebin even tho it's just four letters?
[02:17] <delinquentme> What ubuntu tool can I use to get the IP that a URL resolves to?
[02:17] <vulcanmum> oh shit nvm lol there it goes
[02:17] <riex> Hello. I got a problem with phpmyadmin, how to modify phpmyadmin only allows localhost by default for logging,
[02:17] <mathfreak> oh no, paste that command into the terminal
[02:18] <mathfreak> It should print out a bunch of information about your graphics
[02:18] <XiaolinDraconis> does anyone know how to install awn-extras?
[02:18] <vulcanmum> I did but four letters showed up but more code has shown up now
[02:18] <mathfreak> Yeah, after all that information stops printing out to the terminal, go ahead and copy all of that
[02:19] <XiaolinDraconis> make command returns error looking for 0.3.9 but the current version is 0.40
[02:19] <McQueen> hi, have a problem... adb shell "./data/local/tcpdump-arm -n -s 0 -w - | nc -l -p 12345"
[02:19] <mathfreak> You can copy it easily by clicking edit -> copy in the toolbar, or by pressing shift-ctrl-C
[02:19] <McQueen> its gives /data/local/tcpdump-arm -n -s 0 -w - | nc -l -p 12345"
[02:19] <McQueen> tcpdump-arm: listening on wlan0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet),
[02:20] <McQueen> ./system/bin/sh: nc: not found
[02:20] <McQueen> whats the problem
[02:20] <vulcanmum> ok I'm done with that mathfreak
[02:21] <mathfreak> ok cool. Do you paste a copy of the information on pastebin.com?
[02:21] <vulcanmum> yes
[02:21] <riex> Hello. I got a problem with phpmyadmin, how to modify phpmyadmin only allows localhost by default for logging,
[02:22] <mathfreak> awesome. Go ahead and copy the web address after pasting to pastebin.com and post it here
[02:22] <mathfreak> let's take a look.
[02:22] <vulcanmum> bless you
[02:22] <vulcanmum> sorry if you're athiest, I mean it form my end tho!
[02:23] <mathfreak> not a problem. :p I'm here to help with computers as my main goal (and hang out)
[02:23] <vulcanmum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284266/
[02:23] <atem> hey mathfreak what is your profile?
[02:23] <vulcanmum> lol, is there any non ubuntu chat going on in here ever?
[02:23] <mathfreak> what profile?
[02:23] <atem> well i want to refer to your hobbies, the hours of study you haver
[02:24] <atem> i wanna be good, maybe one day as good as you are
[02:24] <mathfreak> atem: I'm still not quite sure I understand.
[02:25] <mathfreak> atem: it's mostly Google and some guesswork.
[02:25] <atem> i see is so easy :p
[02:25] <atem> forgive that :p
[02:25] <riex> nobody knows? :)
[02:26] <mathfreak> vulcanmum: Everything there seems all right. Can you go to the terminal and type in "gnome-display-properties"?
[02:26] <mathfreak> It should bring up a window that lets you adjust your monitor settings
[02:27] <McQueen> http://pastebin.com/YSCJHuph
[02:27] <McQueen> why its getting nc not found
[02:27] <McQueen> ?
[02:28] <vulcanmum> ok hold up, thank you so much for helping math
[02:29] <OerHeks> McQueen, your 2nd attempt found nc, but you need options to that command.
[02:29] <juanhillo> hello
[02:30] <McQueen> OerHeks, i meant first attempt...
[02:30] <vulcanmum> wait do I need the *
[02:30] <McQueen> OerHeks, the 2nd attempt is for control nc installed
[02:31] <mathfreak> ? Where's the *?
[02:31] <vulcanmum> mathfreak, it says command not found
[02:32] <McQueen> OerHeks, any idea?
[02:32] <OerHeks> McQueen, no sorry i have no clue
[02:32] <georgetso> hello guys, I need a favor. I'm sudo user in my server and there's another server. Now I need to disable that user from call mysql command. any idea?
[02:32] <McQueen> OerHeks, thank you
[02:33] <georgetso> hello guys, I need a favor. I'm sudo user in my server and there's another user. Now I need to disable that user from call mysql command. any idea?
[02:33] <vulcanmum> mathfreak,  I typed in gnome-display-properties and it said command not found...is that bad?
[02:33] <mathfreak> vulcanmum: Interesting. How about trying "xrandr"?
[02:34] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> can you run a IRC server on ubutntu ?
[02:34] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> Ubuntu *
[02:34] <riex> Hello. I got a problem with phpmyadmin, how to modify phpmyadmin only allows localhost by default as login, the problem is if i add a new user without pointing localhost as host, if i use % then the user cannot login, only with localhost. How do i fix that?
[02:35] <vulcanmum> mathfreak,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284275/
[02:36] <mathfreak> vulcanmum: Cool, thanks. I'll need a moment to search up some stuff.
[02:36] <vulcanmum> thank you mathfreak
[02:37] <DaemonicApathy> mathfreak: You don't play Go, by any chance?
[02:37] <mathfreak> DaemonicApathy: Nope.
[02:37] <DaemonicApathy> mathfreak: Alright, never mind. :-)
[02:38] <XiaolinDraconis> anyone here have awn-extras installed?
[02:38] <vulcanmum> Iv'e seen a lot of games on software center, I'm not good at first person shooters, what are some cool games? are any multiplayer?
[02:39] <DaemonicApathy> XiaolinDraconis: Depending on the question, you may want to check out #awn
[02:40] <XiaolinDraconis> vulcanmum, http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/12.04/
[02:40] <mathfreak> vulcanmum: Are you using the Ubuntu computer with the screen problems right now?
[02:40] <XiaolinDraconis> im just trying to figure out how to install it
[02:40] <vulcanmum> yes mathfreak
[02:41] <vulcanmum> that link is not working, do links work in xchat? I'm neew here too, what is that site XiaolinDraconis ?
[02:41] <vulcanmum> brb
[02:41] <OerHeks> pleydeb is just a wine thingy, not really linux gaming
[02:41] <mathfreak> Do you know what your monitor is right now? (brand, model, etc.?)
[02:42] <XiaolinDraconis> OerHeks, stop telling lies
[02:42] <vulcanmum> no I don't it's an old fucker tho
[02:42] <vulcanmum> brb
[02:42] <XiaolinDraconis> vulcanmum, right click the link and select open in browser
[02:43] <mathfreak> vulcanmum: Is it a CRT monitor?
[02:44] <vulcanmum> yes mathfreak
[02:45] <vulcanmum> oh nice XiaolinDraconis  any you would recommend?
[02:45] <bobmannn> G
[02:45] <bobmannn> Oops
[02:45] <mathfreak> vulcanmum: ah, I see. I'm going to take a guess that the refresh rate of the monitor is too high.
[02:46] <XiaolinDraconis> super tux cart is pretty cool
[02:46] <vulcanmum> I dont know how to change taht
[02:46] <vulcanmum> that
[02:46] <vulcanmum> it's old, I got it used from my comuputer guy years ago
[02:47] <mathfreak> yeah, I need to look up how to do that in a moment.
[02:47] <vulcanmum> well, I'm sorry you went thru all that work mathfreak
[02:48] <michealPW>  A simple way would be xrandr ?
[02:48] <mathfreak> Oh no, it's fine. I might be getting close. I just need to remember how to do this :p (I had monitor problems once before)
[02:48] <XiaolinDraconis> vulcanmum, AstroMenace is one of my favorites
[02:49] <michealPW> My kids love bzFlag ("The tank game")
[02:49] <michealPW> hehe
[02:50] <vulcanmum> oh hey michealPW
[02:50] <john_rambo> When I try to modify network connections or install updates Ubuntu doesnt ask for password. Is this a new policy?
[02:50] <mathfreak> vulcanmum: Ok, let's see if this works. Try putting the following into the terminal: "xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1024x768_60.0"
[02:50] <vulcanmum> michealPW,  I think mathfreak  has it whittled down to it's actually my monitor
[02:51] <vulcanmum> k
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> john_rambo, What happens if you run sudo apt-get update in a terminal?
[02:52] <john_rambo> wilee-nilee, It asks for password
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> john_rambo, Some updates from the update manager do not require a password. As far as the network, a more detailed description would probably help, for the channel that is.
[02:53] <vulcanmum> ok now what mathfreak ?
[02:54] <mathfreak> Hmm... I'm guessing that it didn't work?
[02:54] <vulcanmum> um, some more code showed up
[02:54] <vulcanmum> I mean it's not blinking right now if that's what you mean?
[02:55] <mathfreak> well, that's definitely good news, I suppose.
[02:55] <mathfreak> out of curiosity, what does the stuff that gets printed out say?
[02:55] <vulcanmum> lol, was it supposed to bring up more code? do you want to see that code?
[02:55] <mathfreak> I don't think it was supposed to print anything out, but just in case, let's take a look.
[02:56] <vulcanmum> ok
[02:59] <vulcanmum> mathfreak,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284294/
[03:00] <mathfreak> oh, I see. make sure the dash in front of "output" and "mode" is actually a double dash.  Two dashes in front of words is usually the norm. One dash is for when you use single letters instead of words in the command.
[03:03] <mathfreak> There are some exceptions, but the above is the rule of thumb.
[03:04] <vulcanmum> ok it blinked my screan
[03:05] <mathfreak> ok, that's expected.
[03:05] <vulcanmum> oh ok thank you
[03:05] <mathfreak> can you type "xrandr" and paste the result into pastebin one more time?
[03:05] <mathfreak> I'm going to hope that if it's a problem with the refresh rate, this should fix it.
[03:07] <vulcanmum> you won't believe this but I was going to school for my computer tech license and my professor advisor told me I was wasting my time at thier 2 yr school and that I should go to a four year for programming, so I finished the semester and went to a four year, but left the school because I moved there with an ex bf and he took my car
[03:07] <vulcanmum> ok is it just me or is the computer screen hurting my eyes now...?
[03:07] <yepwatermelon> Hello everyone. I recently installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop and updated it to 12.10 after rebooting I noticed it grub doesn't pop up as it normally would, instead I get a purple screen until ubuntu finally loads. Anyone know how to disable this?
[03:08] <vulcanmum> wait 12.10 is out already? I thought that was going to be thursday
[03:08] <mathfreak> I always thought it was at the end of the month.
[03:08] <mathfreak> How's the monitor looking now, vulcanmum? How does it hurt your eyes?
[03:09] <yepwatermelon> I just updated to the beta
[03:09] <mathfreak> Does it seem like it's "fuzzy" or "fizzy"?
[03:09] <vulcanmum> yes, I was thinking vibraty but fizzy seems right
[03:09] <yepwatermelon> anyone?
[03:10] <mathfreak> yepwatermelon: you mignt want to take a look at your grub file
[03:11] <yepwatermelon> what would I be looking for though?
[03:11] <mathfreak> yepwatermelon: should be under /etc/default. See if the values next to the options hide the options
[03:12] <mathfreak> vulcanmum: Does the monitor blink like before, though?
[03:12] <vulcanmum> no mathfreak
[03:12] <mathfreak> That probably means the problem was with your refresh rate.
[03:13] <mathfreak> Let's see if we can adjust it to make it less "fizzy"
[03:13] <mathfreak> vulcanmum: try "xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1024x768 --rate 75.1" I've changed the rate value at the end from 60 to 75.1
[03:15] <vulcanmum> oh ok thanks
[03:15] <XiaolinDraconis> you seem to know a good deal about the video aspect
[03:16] <vulcanmum> mathfreak,  perfect! thank you so much!
[03:16] <yepwatermelon> There doesn't appear to be an option in grub.cfg that'd have the effect I described...
[03:18] <mathfreak> vulcanmum: All good? Awesome. You'll have to make that effect permanent, though.
[03:18] <vulcanmum> how's that?
[03:18] <mathfreak> You can put that command into a terminal everytime you log in.... or....
[03:18] <mathfreak> you can set it in as one of your startup commands.
[03:19] <vulcanmum> ok...whew...tell me how to do that please? I can see if I can do it
[03:19] <mathfreak> I'm most familiar with the classic GNOME desktop (so, no Unity for me :S )
[03:20] <mathfreak> But, that's okay
[03:20] <vulcanmum> oh ok, I can write down the code and do it the other way I suppose
[03:20] <mathfreak> You can launch a window for it by running "gnome-session-properties"
[03:21] <vulcanmum> ok, dumb it down for me a little? XD
[03:21] <mathfreak> sure
[03:21] <mathfreak> so, in the terminal, type "gnome-session-properties" and press enter
[03:22] <mathfreak> this should give you a window that lets you add and remove programs that you want to start up whenever you log in.
[03:22] <vulcanmum> ok that's open
[03:22] <vulcanmum> do I type in the code now? after I click add?
[03:23] <mathfreak> yeah, after "add" opens up a window, add in that xrandr command I had earlier to the field next to "command"
[03:23] <mathfreak> It would be good to give it a name too, something like, "xrandr command" or something (I'm not creative with names)
[03:24] <XiaolinDraconis> think you could figure out why my screen goes crazy when the resolution changes?
[03:24] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: I can give it a shot.
[03:24] <XiaolinDraconis> would be much appreciated
[03:24] <XiaolinDraconis> anytime i ask it seems im ignored
[03:25] <yepwatermelon> found it
[03:25] <theadmin> XiaolinDraconis: Well define "go crazy"
[03:25] <mathfreak> all right then. Let's start. What seems to be going on?
[03:25] <theadmin> XiaolinDraconis: I might have an idea here... Are you in KDE by any chance?
[03:25] <XiaolinDraconis> seems the horizontal refresh gets out of sync
[03:25] <XiaolinDraconis> lots of tearing and rapid scrolling
[03:26] <vulcanmum> yay! I'm fixed! Thank You mathfreak !!!!!!!!!!
[03:26] <XiaolinDraconis> theadmin, no
[03:26] <mathfreak> vulcanmum: Awesome. Enjoy Ubuntu!
[03:26] <theadmin> XiaolinDraconis: Oh okay, there's a KDE bug or something where enabling KWin's compositing breaks various screen-related things
[03:26] <theadmin> XiaolinDraconis: So guess that's not it, never mind
[03:26] <Ineedhelp> Hello there
[03:27] <Ineedhelp> By any chance does anyone know how to install netgear drivers for 10.04
[03:27] <Ineedhelp> without any internet connections
[03:28] <mathfreak> Try checking the install disc. There might be something there that can help you out
[03:29] <theadmin> mathfreak: That's unlikely -- all the drivers present on the CD get installed anyway
[03:29] <mathfreak> Ah I see. Never mind then.
[03:30] <theadmin> mathfreak: Also, please specify the name of the person you're talking to in front of your message so that a) the person gets notified, b) others aren't confused when there are multiple conversations going on
[03:30] <mathfreak> theadmin: Sure thing. Sorry about that.
[03:30] <theadmin> mathfreak: No problem, guess you're new to IRC ;)
[03:30] <b3un0> q
[03:32] <theadmin> b3un0: Yes?
[03:36] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, no thoughts on the screen tearing out of sync issues?
[03:37] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: Not a clue, really. :S
[03:38] <D4rkH4nd> Hello, does anyone have a min to help me wright a small script for some thing. I mean SMALL. Ive never wrighten one and need help
[03:38] <theadmin> D4rkH4nd: Surely, what is the end goal?
[03:39] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: I'm going to read up a bit on your issue. Never experienced this before
[03:39] <D4rkH4nd> I need to delet a certin program from my javaws -viewer before i can launch it. Its a recent bug wit the game. then run it from file on my desktop
[03:39] <yepwatermelon> back with a second question
[03:40] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, thanks man, i tried searching myself, got lost on the way
[03:41] <theadmin> D4rkH4nd: Okay, well... something along these lines: http://ideone.com/fbKSn
[03:42] <vulcanmum> oh btw, anyone know of any cool irc chatrooms? I only know of three and two of those are like sister sites or whatever
[03:42] <theadmin> !alis > vulcanmum
[03:43] <D4rkH4nd> theadmin: ya, promblem is i cant find the direct path to the file i use javaws -viewer to get to gui then erase lol
[03:43] <WeThePeople> how do i close down all processes autokey?
[03:44] <WeThePeople> program autokey
[03:44] <theadmin> WeThePeople: killall autokey
[03:44] <theadmin> D4rkH4nd: Ok... I have no idea what javaws -viewer even is
[03:45] <UnicOrnseeD> super pinguy 12.04 noob. hello
[03:45] <D4rkH4nd> it shows java installed apps you can delet them from there
[03:45] <D4rkH4nd> try it maybe theres a better way im a nub lol
[03:46] <theadmin> UnicOrnseeD: Pinguy is not supported here.
[03:46] <WeThePeople> what does>>> Error while trying to run (Alt+a) which is linked to the key (<Alt>a)  <<<mean
[03:47] <WeThePeople> hotkeys btw
[03:47] <number1235> Greetings, I'm looking for anybody who has had some luck with controlling fans on the Inspiron 1525 or similar, or related info. I'm interested in running cooler than i8kctl seems to allow, maybe with manual control.
[03:48] <number1235> With i8kmon the fans do kick in, but hotter than I'd like.  This channel is for Ubuntu support only. Bad language isn't welcome here either.
[03:51] <DaemonicApathy> Too late.
[03:51]  * cfhowlett Drive By stupidity
[03:52] <bfortified> anyone anygood with NFS shares?
[03:52] <linuxuz3r> mad
[03:52] <RamchandraApte> I know somewhat.
[03:52] <RamchandraApte> bfortified: I think Google Drive is easier.
[03:52] <DaemonicApathy> bfortified: If you ask the question, an answer may come forth.
[03:52] <RamchandraApte> bfortified: for simple things
[03:52] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: When you described the tearing, did it look like this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tearing_%28simulated%29.jpg
[03:52] <number1235> Okay so restating my question, anybody aware of a way to manually control Inspiron fans? The config file for i8kmon seems to be overidden somehow, and the computer gets hotter than I'd like.
[03:53] <bfortified> Well when I mount an NFS share the directory and sub-directories show up but no the files. Is this a permissions issue?
[03:53] <RamchandraApte> mathfreak: I have tearing like that :|
[03:54] <number1235> I have Xubuntu on my MacBook 5,1 and can manual control the fan speed by altering the minimum speed file through a script. Is there a similar file that allows me to do the same on a Dell laptop?
[03:55] <number1235> & I keep typing manual instead of manually no big deal
[03:55] <DaemonicApathy> number1235: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/GKrellM has been used for that with some Inspiron models.
[03:55] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, nope, interestingly i am in the process of creating an image to show you
[03:56] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: Cool. I'll wait on that image then.
[03:56] <number1235> checking it out, thank you DaemonicApathy
[03:56] <DaemonicApathy> number1235: No problem, let me know how it works out.
[03:56] <bizhanMona> Hello, I am trying to debug an issue using debug version of the Ubuntu kernel. My questions, what package I need to download for ubuntu kernel source for 12.04? and how to recompile it? Thx
[03:57] <bfortified> Well I just went back and looked and the files are showing up. Does NFS take a while to sync?
[03:57] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, http://i.imgur.com/4cPDn.png
[03:57] <mathfreak> RamchandraApte: What's your video card? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1993224
[03:58] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: Ok yeah. I have no idea how that happens.
[03:58] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, imagine that it is rolling really fast, like how older tv's would do
[03:58] <RamchandraApte> mathfreak: I googled for it but was unable to find a solution (I reinstalled and then the problems became lesser)
[03:58] <RealOpty_> hello :)
[03:59] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: Does the monitor do this on other systems?
[03:59] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, not at all
[03:59] <RamchandraApte> mathfreak : graphics card info: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[04:00] <iFlip> I currently have two 3TB drives on RAID I - This configuration is no longer needed and to maximize space the amount of space I am currently backing up all my movies, TV shows, and music to redo the RAID configuration to RAID 0. This way I will have 6TB to expand my media collection. My question is this. How do I redo a RAID configuration without reinstalling Ubuntu and using the RAID configuration wizard
[04:00] <iFlip>  during the intro of the install. Also, once the configuration is established, how do I set the new RAID to mount and be in the fstab config file.
[04:00] <RealOpty_> Ive installed my custom kernel. I want to use the latest kernel in the repo. It was already installed, but grub didnt update so :\ any suggestions?
[04:01] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: have you tried changing the refresh rate?
[04:01] <iFlip> I'm running Ubuntu LUCID LAMP
[04:01] <DaemonicApathy> RealOpty_: You can manually update grub.
[04:01] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, no, but i have confirmed it to be the same rate i use in windows, its at the monitors recommended settings
[04:02] <RealOpty_> DaemonicApathy: I know but i think im missing something. ill run grub-update
[04:03] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: Hmm... what sort of video card do you use?
[04:03] <theadmin> RealOpty_: It's update-grub
[04:03] <XiaolinDraconis> none
[04:04] <RealOpty_> theadmin: update-grub2 :)
[04:04] <RealOpty_> ok so grub didnt detect the newer kernel
[04:04] <RealOpty_> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.28-realopty
[04:05] <theadmin> RealOpty_: l@R525 ~ % diff -s $(which update-grub) $(which update-grub2) # Files /usr/sbin/update-grub and /usr/sbin/update-grub2 are identical
[04:05] <theadmin> :P
[04:05] <RealOpty_> :)
[04:09] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: Yeah, I got nothing for you. This seems similar if you haven't looked at it already, though: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1820571
[04:09] <RealOpty_> actually i guess im just confused
[04:09] <RealOpty_> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.28-realopty
[04:09] <RealOpty_> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-32-generic
[04:10] <RealOpty_> is 3.2.0-32 newer than 3.2.28?
[04:10] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, thats pretty much identical to what my screen does
[04:10] <theadmin> RealOpty_: Nope, it's not
[04:11] <theadmin> RealOpty_: major.minor.build-pkgver are the components when versions are compared, they are compared in order so 3.2.28-* is greater than 3.2.0-*
[04:12] <RealOpty_> theadmin: i understand that. maybe when i made this kernel i fuged up somehow lol
[04:13] <yepwatermelon> Hello everyone I have a question. I keep trying to change the appearance of grub via the grub-customizer tool. I've rebooted twice now and both times, despite having changed the colors, grub still appears as the default purple and grey scheme. All the other changes I've applied work correctly. Anyone know the reason behind this
[04:13] <theadmin> RealOpty_: Your kernel doesn't seem to have a... er... kernel. Only the initrd seems to be present which is just weird
[04:13] <RealOpty_> theadmin: Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.28-realopty
[04:13] <RealOpty_> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.28-realopty
[04:14] <RealOpty_> its all there :)
[04:14] <theadmin> RealOpty_: Oh okay then
[04:14] <RealOpty_> just didnt wanna spam the channel
[04:14] <theadmin> RealOpty_: Well then you're set it would seem
[04:15] <loki_> anyone out there?
[04:15] <RealOpty_> I guess. Im using a custom kernel cause ACPI didnt detect my battery, i found a fix, and slap it together
[04:15] <yepwatermelon> anyone? D:
[04:15] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: Hmm... you might want to follow that thread then.
[04:15] <RealOpty_> then i found out there was an update for the bios.
[04:15] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: Did you get to see this linked thread yet? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[04:16] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, i just finished reading about the nomodeset option
[04:16] <RealOpty_> theadmin: i guess i expected the kernel i built to be based on the kernel i that was default at the time :\\
[04:16] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: Ah okay. Let me know that that works. I need to step out for a moment.
[04:17] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, what are these 2 options, pixel clock and phase? they are options on my monitor
[04:17] <kuhwallskee> by default, what does ubuntu have in /usr/local/bin or does it only install binaries into /usr/bin?
[04:17] <theadmin> RealOpty_: ...huh? That's not how it works, your kernel is only based on the options you define in menuconfig
[04:17] <theadmin> kuhwallskee: /usr/local/bin is meant for users to place their own stuff in -- it's empty and no official packages install into it.
[04:18] <bizhanMona> HI could someone help me to find out how to compile ubuntu kernel please? thx
[04:18] <juniour> how can i she the source code of command
[04:18] <RealOpty_> theadmin: I didnt really read my guide lol i was in a hurry. time to review
[04:18] <kuhwallskee> theadmin: this is good news... lol.. I accidentally overwrote the whole directory.
[04:18] <juniour> how can i see the source code of command like grep ,vi etc
[04:19] <theadmin> kuhwallskee: Say thanks you're not on FreeBSD :P
[04:19] <theadmin> juniour: apt-get source package will get you the source code for the entire package.
[04:19] <kuhwallskee> theadmin, i came from bsd -- i was worried.
[04:19] <theadmin> kuhwallskee: :)
[04:19] <number1235> DaemonicApathy: hmm all the resources on gkrellm say it ought to have an i8k plugin for this purpose but I see no plugins listed. Do you have any experience with gkrellm plugins?
[04:20] <kuhwallskee> theadmin, thanks, cheers!
[04:20] <RealOpty_> theadmin: do you have a guide to the proper way of building kernels nowdays?
[04:20] <root____3> hi
[04:20] <root____3> Hello
[04:20] <RealOpty_> ola
[04:21] <juniour> theadmin but where it will be stored
[04:21] <theadmin> juniour: current directory
[04:21] <theadmin> RealOpty_: Follow this, more or less: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&chap=7#doc_chap3 ...
[04:23] <theadmin> Anyway I'm off.
[04:23] <theadmin> Or maybe not yet
[04:25] <RealOpty_> theadmin: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[04:25] <RealOpty_> thats how i got the kernel source, and went from there lol
[04:25] <theadmin> RealOpty_: Well yeah that's how you do it
[04:27] <RamchandraApte> I have tearing problems.
[04:27] <RamchandraApte> graphics card info: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[04:27] <dante_> :S
[04:28] <bizhanMona> One more try:  Could someone help me how to compile ubuntu kernel please? thx
[04:28] <dante_> Is there some file outside of grub that manages its colors on Ubuntu? I keep trying to change the settings but I'm not seeing any color changes. Everything else works.
[04:28] <RamchandraApte> Can somebody create a quick shell script for my problem:
[04:29] <RamchandraApte> I want to remove anything in the filename after the .pk3
[04:30] <CrypticS_> shouldn't that be "can someone help me create..."?
[04:30] <crizis> so you just want someone to do free work for you instead of having an actual ubuntu problem
[04:30] <[deXter]> We're not your slaves.
[04:30] <cfhowlett> RamchandraApte: sure.  How much will you pay?
[04:30] <RamchandraApte> crizis: no otherwise I will have to code the one-liner by myself - I'm not that great at bash coding
[04:30] <rypervenche> I almost just typed it out too...
[04:30] <RamchandraApte> cfhowlett: $0 dollars
[04:30] <cfhowlett> RamchandraApte: good luck with that.
[04:32] <iFlip> I have an SSH question...
[04:32] <iFlip> can I copy a file while in an SSH session to my local machine?
[04:32] <bkc_> iFlip: scp
[04:32] <rypervenche> Yep.
[04:32] <CrypticS_> or sftp
[04:33] <iFlip> I tried but I think I got the syntax wrong.
[04:33] <bkc_> CrypticS_: scp is faster thou ;)
[04:33] <rypervenche> What did you try?
[04:33] <iFlip> I'm on my Mac in an SSH session to my linux box. I want to copy a file from the linux box to my mac while in an SSH session
[04:33] <dante_> anyone care to help? :<
[04:33] <bkc_> iFlip: works just like cp...
[04:33] <ruesy> scp command username@host:/path
[04:34] <iFlip> is the user@host the information on the linux box or the mac?
[04:34] <rypervenche> Linux
[04:34] <iFlip> ahhh, I had it backwards oops
[04:34] <crizis> scp <source> <target>
[04:34] <bkc_> iFlip: copy from local->remote `scp derp.txt user@host:/some/path/derp.txt`, remote->local `scp usr@host:/some/path/derp.txt derp.txt`
[04:35] <Ex0deus> this is bad... my terminal colors on this comp are interfering with my irssi config
[04:35] <tmba> Is there any issues with low performance on 12.04?   Mine has not been 100% smooth since I installed it but I thought it may have something to do with my graphics card. Yesterday I upgraded the card, got nvidia drivers working again.. and I hardly feel any difference. Its not so bad that I can't work, but its not 100% smooth either, which I should expect with nvidia gtx 650TI graphics card.
[04:35] <Ex0deus> everything is all sick looking
[04:35] <iFlip> actually I want to go reomte->local
[04:35] <uw> "everyone's a winner in the Ubuntu app showdown"
[04:35] <uw> is that so ubuntu?
[04:35] <ruesy> nvidia....fucx driver....dual display support is shit!
[04:35] <dante_> Am I muted or something?
[04:36] <crizis> tmba, http://askubuntu.com/questions/38028/performance-being-really-choppy-with-ati-drivers assuming you run unity
[04:36] <uw> no i can see that
[04:36] <IdleOne> !language | ruesy
[04:36] <tmba> crizis: nvidia, not ati
[04:36] <crizis> tmba, default refresh rate for compiz is 50hz which is braindead
[04:36] <crizis> tmba, irrelevant
[04:36] <Ex0deus> are the new nvidia drives really that bad?
[04:36] <bkc_> iFlip: local is the current machine that you execute the command from... so if you're current terminal is the ssh-session, your linux computer is local, and from the mac terminal local would be the mac computer. and vise verca for remote :)
[04:36] <Ex0deus> i'm not having any performance problems with 12.04
[04:36] <majnoon> when next version out (ballpark)
[04:36] <tmba> crizis: oh..  can the refresh rate be adjusted?
[04:36] <crizis> yes
[04:36] <crizis> bang it to the max and remove vsync
[04:36] <Ex0deus> none what so ever... i'm running 3.2.xx kernel... ati
[04:36] <dante_> hello?
[04:36] <crizis> ^ read the link
[04:36] <cfhowlett> majnoon: this month.  patience
[04:37] <cfhowlett> dante_: greetings
[04:37] <RamchandraApte> I don't know why people even buy NVIDIA cards - my integrated runs Doom 3 decently
[04:37] <majnoon> :P
[04:37] <tmba> crizis: kk
[04:37] <dante_> ugh so I'm not muted...
[04:37] <Ex0deus> i think i'm actually gained some performance over 11.10... the 3.2.xx kernel is fast
[04:37] <dante_> I keep asking questions in a support channel and getting ignored then ;^;
[04:37] <RamchandraApte> I solved my problem :-)
[04:38] <majnoon> DID get the net book working using usb pendrive as a regular HD
[04:38] <Ex0deus> dante_: what do you need help with sir?
[04:38] <tmba> crizis: oh yeah that helped alot actually
[04:38] <tmba> crizis: thx!
[04:38] <uw> did ubuntu drop synaptic or something?
[04:38] <juniour> in a lan iam connected to my windows machine can i send message to win machine via terminal
[04:38] <majnoon> used vmware player and told cd it was a regular hd :)
[04:39] <uw> wow i had to install it.  fail ubuntu
[04:39] <iFlip> bkc_ scp /home/stonewall-user/.sabnzbd/sabnzbd.ini iMac@<IP_ADDRESS>:/Users/iMac/Desktop ::: Does that look right? cause I got a connection timeout
[04:39] <juniour> in a lan iam connected to my windows machine can i send message to win machine via terminal
[04:39] <uw> 2 god damn GB install and it doesnt have synaptic
[04:40] <cfhowlett> uw: use software center
[04:40] <dante_> I installed Ubuntu and I've been having a multitude of problems I'm trying to sort out one by one. Currently I have two major ones. First off I can't seem to change the grub colors via grub customizer. I set a different background image and font color but I still get the same default ubuntu colors, everything else (font, kernel options, etc.) works so I know its at least updating correctly. The second is when I launch Ubuntu from Gru
[04:40] <dante_> b I get a solid purple screen and it doesn't boot unless I mash my keyboard. Any ideas why?
[04:40] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: Pixel clock looks like the number of pixels that can be drawn to the screen in 1 second.
[04:40] <dante_> Sorry that was long...
[04:40] <bkc_> iFlip: looks about right... thou you could do scp ~/user/path/file iMac@<IP_ADDRESS>:~/Desktop
[04:40] <iFlip> I will try that
[04:41] <tmba> is there any way of getting flash to use GPU more in ubuntu?   It takes like 80% cpu in top when I run HD stream/video in fullscreen  :(
[04:41] <bkc_> iFlip: CTO is probably because of a bad connection :)
[04:41] <Ex0deus> let the purple screen go for awhile
[04:41] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, i set used the auto detect feature, it was at 50 and stayed, also the phase was at 6 and went to 76
[04:41] <Ex0deus> your sure its not booting... and the purple screen is just a mask screen covering up all the terminal output
[04:42] <dante_> The purple screen is there even if I disable quiet and splash.
[04:42] <Ex0deus> when your at that purple screen... try pressing ctrl+alt+f5
[04:42] <Ex0deus> er is it f7 i forget but one of those are the screen where the boot output is put
[04:42] <iFlip> bkc_ i find it strange it doesn't require a password to copy the file to my iMac after putting the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>shouldn't it to gain the permission to copy the file?
[04:42] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: any changes to the screen?
[04:43] <Ex0deus> as for changing hte colors in grub... manually edit your grub.conf
[04:43] <uw> tmba, uhh, wut?
[04:43] <uw> use the gpu more?
[04:43] <tmba> uw: hardware acceleration..
[04:43] <iFlip> It says it cannot connect to my iMac
[04:43] <bkc_> iFlip: it should if you havn't setup public keys :/
[04:43] <crizis> iFlip, you just likely copied the file locally to file named<EMAIL_ADDRESS>:
[04:43] <iFlip> on port 22
[04:43] <XiaolinDraconis> none that i can tell, ill be testing in a moment, to see if the issue is still there
[04:43] <crizis> iFlip, you have to also use sftp:// protocol
[04:44] <crizis> iFlip, like scp myfile sftp://user@host/path
[04:44] <bkc_> iFlip: do you have ssh on your mac? :/
[04:44] <uw> are the videos you watching using a codec that your GPU can run in hardware?
[04:44] <iFlip> yes
[04:44] <DaemonicApathy> iFlip: did you forward port 22 to your mac from the router?
[04:44] <iFlip> I am local
[04:44] <iFlip> no need to port forward
[04:44] <uw> say h.262 263 264
[04:45] <DaemonicApathy> Fair enough, but I had that issue at one point.
[04:45] <bkc_> iFlip: open up another terminal on the Mac and run `scp user@ubuntuhost:~/path/file ~/Desktop` instead :)
[04:45] <iFlip> bkc_ good idea... I will try
[04:45] <dante_> also what font does grub 2 use by default?
[04:45] <dante_> if anyone knows?
[04:46] <vientosolar> #ubuntu-co
[04:48] <vientosolar> someone here?
[04:48] <vientosolar> I need help to solve this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284378/
[04:49] <tmba> yes
[04:52] <IdleOne> vientosolar: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:53] <vientosolar> thanks Idle0ne
[04:53] <Dacs> LTS where when i boot my laptop i see bios screen, the xbuntu screen and a quick flash of NIVIDIA and then a blackscreen
[04:53] <Dacs> hello; i am looking for someone to help me troublshoot an issue with my
[04:53] <Dacs> LTS where when i boot my laptop i see bios screen, the xbuntu screen and a quick flash of NIVIDIA and then a blackscreen
[04:57] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, nothing changed still freaked out
[04:57] <Dacs> anyone here willing to give me support with my issue :)
[04:58] <pitviper296> hello guys and girls , I wonder if anyone could help me with my graphics driver in ubuntu 12.04 lts
[04:58] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: Well, I'm all out of ideas. :S
[04:59] <Daughain> Would if I could, Dacs
[04:59] <tmba> Dacs: have you tried other drivers in X besides nvidia?
[05:00] <tmba> Dacs: I'm not in ubuntu support btw, just looking for help like you..
[05:00] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, im trying to figure out how to set nomodeset option
[05:01] <Dacs> tmba: it was working fine , untill i remember the last thing i did was removing apache2
[05:01] <yigal> hello all
[05:01] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis:  Does the bootloader come up when you restart the computer?
[05:01] <pitviper296> can anyone help me figure out how to switch from vesa graphics driver to Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS driver 12.04 lts
[05:01] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, u mean grub? yes
[05:02] <tmba> Dacs: humm as far as I know apache2 should have no impact on X or video drivers. Perhaps remove the nvidia packages to test if X is still black. If that fixed it, you could try to reinstall nvidia again. It may be a config issue.
[05:02] <yigal> pitviper296: u can always go with https://launchpad.net/~glasen/+archive/intel-driver
[05:03] <yigal> or at least try it
[05:03] <ner0x> Anyone using xfce know how to set an absolute path to my "Desktop" folder?
[05:03] <yigal> ner0x: #xubuntu
[05:04] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: What's up with nomodeset right now? Are you unable to change the options at grub's screen?
[05:04] <pitviper296> yigal: ok I will give them a look.  Trying to get compiz-fusion up and running and compiz-check says I'm running vesa driver and it keeps failing my system
[05:04] <ner0x> yigal: I have asked there as well.
[05:04] <yigal> pitviper296: I understand, your graphics card can certainly handle it
[05:05] <yigal> ner0x: just to be clear you are attempting to make changes the Thunar?
[05:05] <pitviper296> yigal: will I have to build a repo?
[05:05] <yigal> pitviper296: no
[05:05] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak,  i wouldnt know how to do it from the grub menu, im using a tool called grub customizer to make the change
[05:05] <yigal> pitviper296: that will not be necessary
[05:05] <ner0x> yigal: Not exactly. I just want to change where they assume the "Desktop" folder is.
[05:05] <ner0x> IE I have it at /media/backup/Desktop, I'd like to point to that but it won't let me.
[05:06] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: oh ok. Does pressing 'e' not work when the menu comes up?
[05:06] <yigal> ner0x: you mean for all file management?
[05:07] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, i assume it does, ive never done it before
[05:07] <yigal> ner0x: /home/user/.config/user-dirs.dirs  XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Desktop
[05:07] <ner0x> yigal: Ah, that should work. I'll dig a little deeper. Thank you sir.
[05:08] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, i added it here, hoping thats right, http://i.imgur.com/rRe6n.png
[05:08] <yigal> ner0x: cool, let me know if you need any more help with it
[05:08] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: Looks good as ever.
[05:09] <ner0x> yigal: Actually, that's exactly what I was looking for.
[05:10] <Dacs> any help folks
[05:10] <ner0x> yigal: I assume I restart lightdm to make the changes take effect.
[05:11] <pitviper296> yigal: if I install the wrong one could it crash my system. best i can figure,  xserver-xorg-video-intel   	2:2.20.9~really~2.20.10~precise~ppa2  is the one I need
[05:11] <dante_> Okay so I fixed the first problem I was having. Now I keep trying to edit the grub.cfg file directly and it still doesn't change the colors. I'm running grub-update and it appears to be changing the fonts just fine but the colors won't change.
[05:12] <dante_> anyone know why?
[05:12] <thechaser> Does anyone know why my sound stop working? Nothing is muted and i still dont have sound...
[05:12] <Jordan_U> dante_: Please pastebin your /etc/default/grub .
[05:13] <nischay> clear
[05:13] <Dacs> guys
[05:13] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, that had incredibly unexpected results... it affected my session
[05:13] <nischay> HI :)
[05:13] <yigal> pitviper296: yes
[05:13] <MTecknology> I have a server that has no IPv4 address and a lot of repositories that I want to use are IPv4-only. Any ideas how I could still manage to add IPv4-only repositories?
[05:13] <Dacs> is there a key i can push while my laptop is loading so that i can access some sort of recovery?
[05:14] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, i use a user defined session, and unity is not part of that, all of a sudden it is
[05:14] <mathfreak> huh....
[05:14] <dante_> Jordan_U: pastebin.com/f8MR2Rnn
[05:14] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, also it seems compositing is disabled
[05:14] <pitviper296> yigal:  well it's a dual boot sys, not that big a deal. be a fun adventure lol. Thanks for you help. I'll see what happens
[05:14] <Dacs> like winodws you push f8 what is it in ubuntu?
[05:15] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: brb, gonna read a bit more on this
[05:15] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, although the problem is fixed
[05:15] <yigal> pitviper296: you will need to know how to alter  /etc/X11/xorg.conf and restart X11 if the installation of the driver fails
[05:15] <yigal> pitviper296: at least you may need to, that's the worst likely it will work
[05:16] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, i think my system has been detected as a laptop now
[05:16] <Jordan_U> dante_: What do you see at boot, and what do you expect to see?
[05:16] <pitviper296> yigal: ok thanks, I'm pretty sure it will , but never can tell. If it does we should know in a few
[05:17] <yigal> pitviper296: let us know if you need any help
[05:17] <dante_> I see the default ubuntu colors (purple and grey) instead of the scheme I have set out (the background image is solid black, font colors are white)
[05:17] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: Hmm.... Out of ideas now.
[05:17] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, yeah i think ill go back to not being able to change resolutions
[05:18] <XiaolinDraconis> this is crazy
[05:18] <mathfreak> XiaolinDraconis: Sorry I couldn't help you out much. I honestly don't know what's happening.
[05:18] <XiaolinDraconis> mathfreak, no problem thanks for trying, at least im farther than i was
[05:19] <XiaolinDraconis> nomodeset made ubuntu think im on a laptop, that is weird \
[05:19] <Dacs> hello any one?
[05:19] <mathfreak> Dacs: Hey, what's up?
[05:19] <info> i want to check whether a directory is in use by any other application
[05:19] <dante_> Its because its controled by 05_debian_theme under grub.d... -.-
[05:19] <info> how can i do it?
[05:19] <dante_> I think...
[05:19] <dante_> it would appear so
[05:20] <tmba> info: fuser
[05:20] <tmba> info: or lsof
[05:20] <dante_> jodran_U: /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme does that have any control over it? It would appear so but I'm not sure...
[05:20] <info> can i write that in a script??
[05:20] <info> tmba
[05:20] <Dacs> mathfreak: my laptop is not booting up to X server
[05:21] <tmba> info: probably
[05:21] <Dacs> mathfreak: it was working fine last night at ~pm before i went to bed. last thing i was doing was following a thread in a form trying to remove apache2
[05:22] <tmba> info: check the output from those commands
[05:22] <info> i want to check that a directory is free for other application to use
[05:22] <yigal> info: go for it
[05:22] <lewellyn> so, i figure i'm not the first to ask, but i don't know the answer... did zdnet jump the gun, misreport, or something about 12.10 already being released?
[05:22] <yigal> info: what do you mean?
[05:22] <Dacs> mathfreak: by the way i am using the same laptop, just using tty
[05:23] <Dacs> mathfreak:that is how i am able to chat here
[05:23] <Dacs> !logs
[05:23] <tmba> info: yes use lsof and fuser. Notice I used AND. Sometimes one might not report while the other does.
[05:23] <info> ok
[05:23] <info> thanks
[05:25] <yigal> oh lsof you are a great tool
[05:25] <mathfreak> Dacs: I have no clue. sorry. :S
[05:25] <lewellyn> Dacs: if that was for me, i didn't find the answer in the logs. but this channel is very... high on flow. :)
[05:28] <Dacs> mathfreak:you know how i can access safe mode
[05:29] <mathfreak> Dacs: try rebooting. Choose the recovery mode option from grub
[05:29] <pitviper296> yigal: I see the ppa I need but I'm confused as how to install it?
[05:30] <yigal> pitviper296: have you seen https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware ?
[05:31] <Dacs> mathfreak: it doesn't ask me for that, it normally just logme to ~
[05:31] <pitviper296> yigal: yes I added ppa:glasen/intel-driver to my system but kinda stumped now
[05:31] <Dacs> mathfreak: i don't have grub
[05:32] <yigal> pitviper296: just make sure that the repos are updated locally "apt-get update"
[05:32] <mathfreak> Dacs: oh huh... What do you use?
[05:32] <yigal> pitviper296: at that point you should be able to install the necessary files
[05:32] <Daughain> Out of curiosity, can anyone tell me why update manager might stall out?
[05:32] <Dacs> mathfreak: what i donloaded from ubuntu site
[05:32] <yigal> Daughain: a repository might be having issues
[05:33] <yigal> Daughain: what is the current output?
[05:33] <Dacs> is there a key i need to press when i boot
[05:33] <yigal> Daughain: where is it stalling?
[05:33] <mathfreak> Dacs: normally, you hold down shift to bring up a menu for grub
[05:33] <Daughain> yigal: "setting up linux-image-generic (<IP_ADDRESS>.42)
[05:33] <pitviper296> yigal:  This is what I did -" sudo add-apt-repository ppa:glasen/intel-driver"  " sudo add-apt-repository ppa:glasen/intel-driver "
[05:34] <yigal> Daughain: interesting it is stalling on installing a new kernel
[05:34] <yigal> pitviper296: ok now issue, "sudo apt-get update"
[05:34] <Daughain> yigal: Just did a fresh install of 10.10 and trying to update before upgrading to 11.04.
[05:35] <mirsi> mo
[05:35] <yigal> Daughain: what type of system are you working on?
[05:35] <joserauhalammi> j
[05:35] <joserauhalammi> jo
[05:35] <joserauhalammi> ojoj
[05:35] <joserauhalammi> o
[05:35] <joserauhalammi> jo
[05:35] <FloodBot1> joserauhalammi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:35] <joserauhalammi> ojo
[05:35] <pitviper296> yigal: ok done - now what?
[05:35] <mirsi> moro
[05:35] <yigal> pitviper296: now you should be able to install the desired package
[05:35] <mirsi> hi
[05:35] <yigal> pitviper296: do you know the name of it?
[05:35] <joserauhalammi> bObO
[05:36] <Daughain> yigal: This also makes the third time it has stalled out like this on the new kernel today.
[05:36] <pitviper296> yigal:  xserver-xorg-video-intel 	2:2.20.9~really~2.20.10~precise~ppa2   tried  sudo apt-get
[05:36] <Jordan_U> joserauhalammi: Please don't do that again.
[05:36] <wilee-nilee> Daughain, You can change mirrors in software sources, that might help.
[05:37] <yigal> Daughain: I would strongly consider installing this via the command line
[05:37] <yigal> Daughain: to get a better idea of what exactly is going on
[05:37] <XiaolinDraconis> i followed some instructions and im curious if its going to work
[05:37] <XiaolinDraconis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/77191/how-can-i-use-lightdm-for-user-defined-sessions
[05:37] <rxw> hey guys I got a networking question
[05:37] <XiaolinDraconis> now i just need an xinitrc file right?
[05:37] <yigal> pitviper296: ok so now install it "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel"
[05:38] <rxw> I'm on a laptop w/ a internal wireless card, but my ocnnection is pretty poor
[05:38] <yigal> and follow the instructions provided for xorg.conf at https://launchpad.net/~glasen/+archive/intel-driver
[05:38] <rxw> so I dug up a usb wireless adapter
[05:38] <rxw> and I got that installed
[05:38] <Daughain> yigal: kinda noticing that, the question is, what, if anything, I can do other than starting the install from scratch once more?
[05:38] <rxw> and now I have the option to be connected to different wireless networks for each card
[05:38] <rxw> is there any benefit to that really
[05:39] <rxw> will my laptop somehow utilize both ocnnections
[05:39] <rxw> to get a better download speed
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> rxw, Please don't just post, form a question of your problem and wait for help. ;)
[05:39] <yigal> Daughain: what does the info. tell you currently what is the exact line it is stalling on currently?
[05:39] <Calinou> rxw: go nearer to the access point
[05:39] <rxw> @wilee-nilee ok will do
[05:39] <pitviper296> yigal: haha ha , typo lol it's installing it now - was about to slap my self it's been a long time since I jumped into linux but I knew for sure how to apt-get
[05:40] <rxw> "If I have 2 wireless cards each connected to different networks on the same laptop, does this somehow improve my internet speed"
[05:40] <Daughain> yigal: once again, "Setting up linux-image-generic . (<IP_ADDRESS>.42)"
[05:40] <Calinou> note that apt-get is a command about package management, not linux itself
[05:40] <Calinou> linux is only the kernel
[05:40] <pitviper296> yigal: now that it is installed , how do i get my system to use it instead of vesa? reboot?
[05:41] <afteriiiii> mo
[05:41] <Daughain> yigal: and the sysmon is showing no activity on the proccy.
[05:41] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> how much space is needed to do apt-get update because i keep getting unable to FORK
[05:41] <yigal> pitviper296: have you changed the xorg.conf to use intel?
[05:41] <[_-S1L3NC3-_]> apt-get upgrade
[05:41] <yigal> Daughain: have you run a top on the cli?
[05:42] <Jordan_U> rxw: No.
[05:42] <yigal> Daughain: is the cpu being utilized for something else ?
[05:42] <voldial> Is there a solution to stopping consolekit from logging to it's history file? I found the discussion... http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/251560 and even set the file to immutable but consolekit still appended to the immutable file. hmph.
[05:42] <Daughain> Nope, to top, and nothing running at all.
[05:42] <pitviper296> yigal:  nope , gedit it and just replace vesa with "intel'?
[05:43] <yigal> Daughain: this is likely not true, please as run "sudo ps aufx" are there any processes running?
[05:43] <Calinou> pitviper296: you should use gksudo gedit, not sudo gedit
[05:43] <rxw> Jordan_U: thanks
[05:43] <Jordan_U> rxw: You're welcome.
[05:44] <yigal> pitviper296: just make sure to have as they have in on the PPA http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284432/
[05:44] <pitviper296> yigal: ok ty
[05:44] <yigal> pitviper296 and Daughain good luck gentlmen I hope I was of some use to you.  It's time to retire
[05:44] <pitviper296> Calinou: ok ty
[05:44] <Calinou> or sudo nano, if you want command line editing
[05:45] <Calinou> (I think I started editor war already.)
[05:45] <Josh> Well, Why ubuntu removed aptitude from default package?
[05:45] <Josh> If so what do you guys use instead
[05:45] <Daughain> Total: Ran top, mostly Xorg, wi5h a ea other processes maintaining, such as compose, gnome-terminal, init, etc
[05:45] <Josh> On command line that is
[05:45] <Josh> apt-cache search ?
[05:45] <Jordan_U> Josh: apt-get
[05:45] <Daughain> Night.
[05:45] <Josh> Jordan_U, To search for packets.
[05:45] <Jordan_U> Josh: And yes, apt-cache search for searching for packages.
[05:45] <Josh> Jordan_U, Aptitude was kinda front end right.
[05:46] <Josh> Well, but why aptitude was removed?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> Josh: Aptitude and apt-get are both front ends to dpkg. aptitude was removed for space reasons IIRC, and it also doesn't handle multiarch properly.
[05:47] <Jordan_U> Josh: You can install aptitude yourself if you want to, though keep in mind the above mentioned problems with multiarch.
[05:47] <Josh> I see.
[05:47] <Josh> I know
[05:47] <Josh> I don't know what mutiarch is :[
[05:47] <Daughain> Anyone else have any ideas?
[05:48] <elixey> how do i encrypt the ubuntu AFTER installation
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> !encryption | elixey
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> Daughain: re-ask your question once in a while
[05:50] <Daughain> lotuspsychje: I'm familiar with the protocol. :-)
[05:50] <Jordan_U> Josh: Proper handling of installing 32 bit packages on an otherwise 64 bit installation basically. Also, the multi-arch problems may have been resolved, I haven't been keeping up with those changes.
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> Daughain:just joined so didnt see your question :p
[05:50] <Josh> Jordan_U, ah, then I must be careful, I have 64 bit installed
[05:50] <BlueEagle> Daughain: How are you performing the upgrade? GUI or CLI?
[05:51] <Daughain> BlueEagle: I just ran Update Manager.
[05:52] <Daughain> lotuspsychje: I'm on my tablet, so kinda limited.
[05:53] <pitviper296> Calinou: there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file for 12.04 lts ubuntu?
[05:54] <BlueEagle> Daughain: It could be that a CLI installation could provide more information
[05:54] <BlueEagle> s/installation/upgrade/
[05:54] <Daughain> lotuspsychje: I did a fresh install of 10.10, and during the update before an 11.04 upgrade, the update manager stalled out.
[05:55] <Daughain> BlueEagle: right now, I am trying to *not* have to install again for the fourth time today. :-) any ideas?
[05:55] <BlueEagle> ... then again it could be that installing 11.04 instead of upgrading from 10.10 would take less time. Although I do not see why you would not want to install 12.04.
[05:56] <devjustforfun> people who use netbeans with ubuntu
[05:56] <Daughain> BlueEagle: Well, this is an 8 yr old Dell, and 12.04 does strange things to the proccy.
[05:57] <wilee-nilee> Daughain, Are you using a end of life upgrade from 10.10, as it is end of life.
[05:57] <BlueEagle> devjustforfun: ... have got a bigger chance of having pizza for dinner.
[05:57] <cfhowlett> Daughain: what he said.  Unless you have some overwhelming need for bleeding edge shiny stuff and don't mind struggling with updates 2 times a year, just adopt an LTS only policy.
[05:57] <devjustforfun> BlueEagle ))
[05:57] <devjustforfun> BlueEagle i'm very tired wait
[05:58] <BlueEagle> devjustforfun: Did you have a question or were you just playing "complete this sentence"? If the former, please ask it, if the latter please see !ot
[05:58] <Daughain> wilee-nilee: I'm just trying to install the 10.10 updates.
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> Daughain, It is end of life, and 11.04 is days away from its end of life, install 12.04.
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> !eol > Daughain
[05:59] <Daughain> wilee-nilee: 12.04 ran the proccy at 96% doing nothing.
[05:59] <devjustforfun> BlueEagle do you know why my background scanning of project stack on 100%. and all thinks slow
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> Daughain, It was doing something, and that is easy to find. Have you posted your computer specs?
[06:00] <pitviper296> can anyone tell me how to change vesa video drive to intel in ubuntu 12.04?
[06:00] <BlueEagle> devjustforfun: I do not, but now that you have actually asked the question perhaps someone does know.
[06:00] <Daughain> wilee-nilee: btw, I have a tablet, and this antique Dell. Since I'm on the tablet, I can't get Jo's.
[06:00] <Daughain> Pm's
[06:00] <subdesign> antique :D
[06:02] <Daughain> wilee-nilee:  only spec I know, is it is a 1.5ghz centrino.
[06:02] <BlueEagle> !xorgconf | pitviper296
[06:02] <BlueEagle> pitviper296: You may need to specify the driver if the autodetect does not work.
[06:03] <wilee-nilee> Daughain, in the terminal run free memory what is the ram the number next to memory under total.
[06:03] <yepwatermelon> So I'm back again... :/ look I don't know what's wrong by this point is there any way to completely purge grub from my mbr and then reinstall it?
[06:03] <Daughain> Been watching top, sys mem been running about 80+%
[06:03] <wilee-nilee> yepwatermelon, Are you in the OS or it wont boot?
[06:04] <yepwatermelon> I'm in the OS
[06:04] <wilee-nilee> yepwatermelon, YOur running what release?
[06:04] <yepwatermelon> 12.10
[06:04] <pitviper296> BlueEagle:  driver is not displayed in system settings , compiz-check say I'm running vesa driver, just installed xserver-xorg-video-intel, how to use it though?
[06:04] <Calinou> yepwatermelon: #ubuntu+1
[06:04] <wilee-nilee> yepwatermelon, Go to #ubuntu+1 I will give you the commands there.
[06:04] <BlueEagle> pitviper296: Did you read the links ubottu posted?
[06:05] <pitviper296> BlueEagle: sorry no, just saw it
[06:06] <gartral> i'm back, damint that was a LONG walk
[06:06] <gartral> ooops
[06:06] <Daughain> wilee-nilee: how do I kill update manager?
[06:07] <wilee-nilee> Daughain, Is it running?
[06:07] <BlueEagle> alt+f2 -> "xkill" -> click on window
[06:07] <Daughain> No, it stalled. Thanks, BlueEagle
[06:08] <info> how do i pass argument to shell script from Terminal
[06:08] <info> 	foo(){ fuser -v $1} foo (/home)
[06:08] <info> 	i want to pass that /home from terminal
[06:08] <blargg> I don't get the %us %id etc. lines in top. In this example, they seem to show the CPUs almost all idle, yet the process display shows two things using 3 and 5% of CPU: http://pastie.org/5071606
[06:08] <BlueEagle> info: You want to use a variable in a bash script?
[06:09] <info> yes
[06:09] <pitviper296> BlueEagle: So i can just create a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and enter in tese values? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284432/
[06:09] <info> BlueEagle
[06:10] <BlueEagle> pitviper296: You can just create an xorg.conf file and provide values for sections and those sections will not be auto detected. I have not reviewed your sample file because I forgot all about how xorg.conf works. :P
[06:11] <BlueEagle> info: So you want to call `script.sh someparameter` or do you want to call script.sh and have it read the environment and determine the current users home directory, or do you really want to use ~ as it is the home directory?
[06:11] <pitviper296> BlueEagle:  ok I'm really confused at the moment and I'm really tired. thanks for the help
[06:12] <pitviper296> ubottu: So i can just create a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and enter in tese values? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1284432/
[06:13] <info> i want to pass the directory as a parameter and want to call script.sh with that parameter
[06:13] <info> @ BlueEagle
[06:13] <BlueEagle> info: Please prefix the reply with the nick and a colon so it highlights.
[06:14] <info> BlueEagele:Sorry for that
[06:14] <Daughain> Ok, that killed it, but now I can't use apt, synaptic, or the update manager?
[06:14] <BlueEagle> Daughain: That can happen.
[06:15] <Daughain> BlueEagle: any way to fix it short of a reboot?
[06:15] <BlueEagle> Daughain: Well it does depend on the error you receive. I am good, but I'm not psychic.
[06:15] <BlueEagle> Daughain: And anyways you would want to reboot to install 12.04 anyways.
[06:16] <info> BlueEagle: How do i pass an argument to a function which is in script.sh ??
[06:16] <Daughain> BlueEagle: I do *not* want to install 12.04. I had 12.04, and it sucked.
[06:17] <Daughain> BlueEagle: apt gives me "resource temporarily unavailable"
[06:17] <BlueEagle> Daughain: !language, and yes, the default 12.04 environment isn't the best. However it is still better to reconfigure the environment than to attempt to make an obsolete distro, that no longer receives security updates, work.
[06:18] <BlueEagle> info: The question you want to ask is "How do I pass an argument to a bash script" and Google will happily answer that for you just as good as I can.
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> Daughain: presice is very fast and stable
[06:18] <BlueEagle> info: from the first link: Arguments are accessed inside a script using the variables $1, $2, $3, etc., where $1 refers to the first argument, $2 to the second argument, and so on.
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> Daughain:its very recommended to install it clean
[06:19] <Daughain> lotuspsychje: precise cycled my proccy a ~80% load.
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> Daughian:gotta be another reason mate for it, what was default Os on the machine?
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> Daughain:you can try ##hardware aswell to see if your machine got cpu issues
[06:21] <Daughain> lotuspsychje: once upon a time it was XP. When I got the machine it had ubuntu 2.x.
[06:21] <Daughain> It actually rebooted.
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> Daughain:default Os was ubuntu?
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> Daughain:plz give us more details mate
[06:22] <Daughain> lotuspsychje: it had ubuntu on it when I got it. Since then I have now installed ubuntu 5 times, no partitions.
[06:22] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, Its 10.10 I believe.
[06:23] <wilee-nilee> wubi?
[06:23] <Daughain> wilee-nilee: it had ubuntu 2.x
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> Daughain:what machine are we talking about? laptop? desktop? old/new?
[06:24] <Daughain> lotuspsychje: 03 or 04 Dell inspiron 600m laptop.
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> Daughain:did you run precise fine on it? just had cpu load or did whole system go slow?
[06:25] <Daughain> lotuspsychje: precise ran slow as XP, and had major CPU load.
[06:27] <aeon-ltd> yeah stock ubuntu is almost as heavy as windows
[06:27] <aeon-ltd> running xubuntu or lubuntu will be better. but for maximum speed build up from a server cli install
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> Daughain:did you upgrade or clean install precise?
[06:27] <Daughain> aeon-ltd: 11.04 ran nice and quick.
[06:28] <Daughain> lotuspsychje: upgrade, I have no way to do a clean install. 1 tablet, 1 dysfunctional laptop. :-)
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> Daughain:it very recommended to clean install mate, 11.04 can leave unwanted stuff to slow down your machine
[06:29] <onats> !ext4 mac
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> !mac | onats
[06:29] <onats> does anyone know of a tool / utility i can use on osx to read x4?
[06:29] <onats> ext4?
[06:29] <Daughain> lotuspsychje: I can't load the updates to 10.10 right now, let alone upgrade anything.
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> Daughain:can you download preside to an usb stick to install it clean?
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> precise
[06:31] <Daughain> lotuspsychje: we'll see, dpkg cli commands  fail.
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> onats:you mean like ext4 support for external hd read?
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> Daughain:formatted few old laptops on upgrade, they all had heavy feeling after
[06:32] <onats> lotuspsychje: yes. i have an external HDD slot that I plug in hard drives into. i can't view them on osx
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> onats:this is a mac question really then
[06:33] <Daughain> lotuspsychje: well, my question from the beginning was why update manager stalled out in the middle of doing something. Not what release should I install.
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> onats:we can only support ubuntu in here mate
[06:34] <onats> lotuspsychje: alright. tried in mac channel
[06:34] <onats> but thanks anyway
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> Daughain:i would do my best to install precise clean
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> onats:google shows allota tools
[06:34] <onats> lotuspsychje: none of which are reliable..
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> Daughain:if precise would be too heavy for grafix card, you can try xubuntu precise too
[06:37] <Daughain> lotuspsychje: I can't run unity, I refuse to run gnome3, and have a 40G hd to put it all on. What makes 12.04 worth using? I'm happy with 11.04
[06:37] <arasi> Hi all,I compiling buildroot-2012.08 for am335x evm board bring up,while compiling this i am getting error like "make: *** [/root/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/berkeleydb-5.3.21/.stamp_built] Error 2" how to solve this issue..
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> Daughain: 40 gig hd sounds like older model, i would go for xubuntu 12.04 clean then, to make your system faster
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> anyway bbl
[06:40] <Daughain> lotuspsychje: I did say it was 8-9 years old. And what's so wrong with Mr choosing the os I want for my needs? Isn't that why we use linux anyway?
[06:40] <arasi> Hi all,I compiling buildroot-2012.08 for am335x evm board bring up,while compiling this i am getting error like "make: *** [/root/buildroot-2012.08/output/build/berkeleydb-5.3.21/.stamp_built] Error 2" how to solve this issue..
[06:40] <arasi> ans pls...
[06:41] <bazhang> !repeat | arasi
[06:45] <Daughain> BlueEagle: thanks for your help.
[06:47] <boggle> help
[06:47] <boggle> I am on ubuntu 12.04
[06:47] <boggle> contradst is super high on intel 8xx video
[06:47] <boggle> vlc or movie player shows super high contrast
[06:47] <boggle> stock install nothing changed
[06:52] <yepwatermelon> Anyone know what I'd need to add to /etc/default/grub.cfg to disable the default option of not showing the grub menu on boot?
[06:53] <yepwatermelon> well... /etc/default/grub moreover
[06:59] <yepwatermelon> The documentation for grub2 really is piss poor isn't it?
[07:00] <bazhang> yepwatermelon, no
[07:00] <elky> "poor" would be "no documentation".
[07:00] <BlueEagle> yepwatermelon: I was about to look it up, but that language makes me not want to help you.
[07:01] <rinzler> Anyone know of a way to get keyboard led's into xfce 4.8 panels?
[07:01] <yepwatermelon> I'm sorry I hurt your feelings princess :P
[07:02] <elky> rinzler, you want a led globe in software?
[07:02] <somsip> !attitude | yepwatermelon
[07:02] <rinzler> elky: ??
[07:02] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/24586/how-to-always-show-the-menu-in-grub2   yepwatermelon
[07:02] <elky> rinzler, could you explain more about what you want?
[07:02] <Casey> Hi there. I'm having issues installing linux mint 13. I realize this forum is for Ubuntu but no one is on the mint forum. If I could pick someone's brain, I would greatly appreciate it.
[07:02] <BlueEagle> rinzler: There is an applet called xfce4-kbdleds-plugin. I am sure you have tried this and found some issue, but without you specifying the issue the best I can do is recommend the applet.
[07:03] <bazhang> Casey, then be patient. its not supported here
[07:03] <bazhang> !mintsupport | Casey
[07:03] <elky> "please help me use a competing product" ahahahha
[07:03] <Casey> bazhang, I don't see the issue. Mint is based of ubuntu and I bet if I tell you my problem, you'd be able to at least point me to the right direction.
[07:03] <Casey> *off
[07:04] <elky> Casey, try ##linux
[07:04] <rasha666> i tried to start Word 2007 from my win partition, but i get an error IOPL not enabled.. any suggestions
[07:04] <Casey> elky thank you
[07:04] <BlueEagle> Casey: You don't need support!  I tried using the applet that BlueEagle suggested, but haven't found a version that will work with xfce 4.8
[07:05] <Casey> blueeagle how helpful
[07:05] <BlueEagle> Casey: I know. It's funny though. :)
[07:05] <Jordan_U> BlueEagle: Please keep on topic, and try to be helpful when providing help.
[07:06] <martimus> hey all, how might i go about changing my default file manager? im on a pretty standard setup of 12.04. the desktop can even stay nautilus, that doesnt matter.
[07:06] <bazhang> !behelpful > BlueEagle
[07:07] <rinzler> martimus: in settings manager, choose preferred applications
[07:07] <Casey> Alright just give me a shot. Here's the problem. I burned Linux Mint 13...I mean Ubuntu 12.04 to a live dvd and whenever i choose optical drive in the bios. Mint...I mean ubuntu does it's automatic countdown but then will sit at a black screen with a white cursor indefinitely. Any ideas? I have read about nomodeset but have had no luck :(.
[07:07] <rinzler> martimus: there's an option for file manager. Came up on this myself.
[07:07] <rasha666> martimus Just find file manager that you like install it, and when you are about to login choose that instead of Ubuntu
[07:07] <rasha666>  i tried to start Word 2007 from my win partition, but i get an error IOPL not enabled.. any suggestions
[07:07] <Jordan_U> Casey: This channel only supports Ubuntu, that is our policy. Please respect it.
[07:08] <Casey> Did you read my corrections?
[07:08] <rinzler> rasha666: file manager. Not desktop environment.
[07:08] <martimus> rasha666, file manager, not operating system. i just want to switch nautilus to pcmanfm
[07:08] <BlueEagle> Casey: The Ubuntu 12.04 livecd boots just fine here. Which BIOS version do you have?
[07:08] <Casey> Because in all honesty 12.04 did the same thing jordan_U
[07:08] <rasha666> martimus ohh i see my mistake
[07:08] <Casey> BlueEagle, I'm not really sure
[07:08] <Casey> it's a lenovo z585
[07:08] <BlueEagle> Casey: And the initrd, which is probably the root cause of your issue is one of the bigger differences between distros.
[07:08] <Casey> a10 processor
[07:08] <Casey> vision graphics card
[07:09] <Fishface> Casey, you burned the DVD at 4x speed?
[07:09] <Casey> i burned at max
[07:09] <martimus> rinzler, i dont see an option for file manager
[07:09] <Casey> and then at 6x
[07:09] <martimus> i see web, mail, calendar, music, video, photos
[07:09] <rinzler> martimus: hmm... one sec...
[07:09] <Casey> blueeagle what do you mean by initrd?
[07:09] <BlueEagle> Casey: You also ofcourse verified the md5 sum and attempted to pass parameters under "Advanced" not to use bootsplash?
[07:10] <rinzler> martimus: under the utilities tab?
[07:10] <Fishface> Casey, ok. 4 would be best. But have you been to the 'official' IRC sever for Mint?
[07:10] <Jordan_U> Casey: What do you see when you try to boot Ubuntu, from an actual Ubuntu LiveCD?
[07:10] <BlueEagle> Casey: initrd = initial ram disk. It is the what is loaded first when booting.
[07:10] <martimus> wait, maybe im in the wrong app here... settings manager isnt (system) settings, i take it
[07:10] <Casey> blueeagle: let's assume I know nothing, because that will be close to it. All I did was burn the ISO to disc with ISO burn, plop in the dvd to the optical drive and choose it from the BIOS
[07:10] <Casey> fishface, I have, it's a ghosttown
[07:11] <Casey> 1 user
[07:11] <Jordan_U> Casey: Keep support options in mind when deciding what distribution to use.
[07:11] <Fishface> Casey, no. Its irc.spotchat.org. And channel #linuxmint-help
[07:11] <Casey> jordan_u, all I see is the splash screen and then it loads the black screen with white cursor
[07:12] <Casey> fishface, thats what i chose. I still dont see the issue of a little help.
[07:12] <Jordan_U> Casey: There are at least 3 things that could be called splash screens during the boot of an Ubuntu LiveCD. What do you actually see on screen during boot?
[07:12] <Casey> I'm really frustrated and just want to get it to work.
[07:12] <BlueEagle> Casey: That was not all you did. First you downloaded the .iso image, then you got the MD5 sum and an md5sum checker and verified that the downloade wasn't corrupt. Then you burned the image to a dvd and attempted to boot from the dvd. When you tried it you did get the Ubuntu boot menu and pressed start from LiveCD. Then all you were left with was a blinking cursor.
[07:12] <Casey> jordan_u, its a picture that says linux mint. If you enter, you can select different options that are provided under the live cd.
[07:13] <Fishface> Casey, I know my burn of Mint was good at 4x. And it installed (and ran live) well. I like it. That is all I can tell you.
[07:13] <Casey> blueeagle, not sure where your going with that?
[07:13] <Casey> fishface, so in other words, burn it one more time at a lower speed? Did you have issues as well?
[07:13] <Jordan_U> Casey: Please answer my question with reguard to what you see with an actual Ubuntu LiveCD. If your next response is anything else, I will remove you from the channel (since you are in the wrong channel).
[07:13] <BlueEagle> Casey: Just getting the facts on the table. If, at the boot menu you edit the command prompt not to load bootsplash, does that help?
[07:13] <martimus> rinzler, im not seeing an app called settings manager, or any tab called utilities in system settings :/
[07:14] <Fishface> Casey, no issues at all. Well, grub was a mess. But I got around that.
[07:14] <Casey> jordan_u, i already did
[07:14] <Casey> blueeagle, i did remove bootsplash and added nomodeset in all kinds of variations. I aslo tried compatibility mode.
[07:14] <Casey> fishface, I guess that will be my last attempt.
[07:14] <Jordan_U> Casey: Official Ubuntu liveCDs don't boot to a splash screen that says "Linux Mint".
[07:15] <elky> Casey, we can't trust that you aren't just saying it's the same under the absurd pretext that you think it will magically make it something we can help with.
[07:15] <Casey> jordan_u, you solved my problem. Amazing!@
[07:15] <Casey> elky, I have no idea what you are referring to?
[07:15] <BlueEagle> Casey: Then the best advise I can give you is to install from the Ubuntu alternate cd/dvd. That uses a text-based installer.
[07:16] <Casey> is that available on the main download page?
[07:16] <Casey> *blueeagle