[06:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qemu (xenial-proposed/main) [1:2.5+dfsg-5ubuntu10.10 => 1:2.5+dfsg-5ubuntu10.11] (ubuntu-server, virt) (sync)
[09:36] <xnox> tsimonq2, horum, that is bad.
[09:36] <xnox> slangasek, could you please activate run-once no-network test case for lubuntu products?
[09:38] <xnox> balloons, please add me to the https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase team =) i am lead for s390x product releases in the iso tracker.
[10:38] <jamespage> please could someone reject neutron 2:8.4.0-0ubuntu2 from the xenial unapproved queue
[10:39] <apw> jamespage, looking
[10:39] <jamespage> apw: it needs pairing up with another neutron sru
[10:40] <apw> jamespage, what about neutron-lbaas
[10:40] <jamespage> apw: that ones ok as it
[10:40] <jamespage> as is rather
[10:41] <apw> jamespage, ack and done
[10:41] <jamespage> apw: ta
[10:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected neutron [source] (xenial-proposed) [2:8.4.0-0ubuntu2]
[10:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (zesty-proposed/main) [2.24+17.04 => 2.24.1+17.04] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[10:43]  * apw looks at the snapd uploads ^
[10:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd [source] (zesty-proposed) [2.24.1+17.04]
[11:29] <flocculant> xnox: all the current 'no network' testcases are based on doing other things - me and balloons were discussing it yesterday, https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/04/18/%23ubuntu-quality.html
[11:30] <flocculant> probably best to wait for tsimonq2 to write the testcase - I'm an admin on the manual stuff and watch for merges for that - so atm waiting for tsimonq2 :)
[11:31] <flocculant> once that's done he'll be able to add it to his test list - at least once the tracker is set up for the AA release
[11:41] <tsimonq2> flocculant: Tonight, I can't do it right now.
[11:42] <flocculant> tsimonq2: even if you could - I can't I'm off again shortly :) if it's there 0700 uk time I'll look first thing
[11:43] <tsimonq2> And flocculant has a point, I really don't think it's something we can just enable... so please wait, xnox
[11:44] <tsimonq2> slangasek: ^
[11:49] <tsimonq2> flocculant: Ack, I'll make it happen. :)
[11:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected snapd [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.24]
[11:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected snapd [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.24+16.10]
[11:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected snapd [source] (trusty-proposed) [2.24~14.04]
[12:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.23.6+16.10 => 2.24.1+16.10] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[12:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.23.6 => 2.24.1] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[12:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.23.6 => 2.24.1] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[12:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron (xenial-proposed/main) [2:8.4.0-0ubuntu1 => 2:8.4.0-0ubuntu2] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[12:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.23.6+16.10 => 2.24.1+16.10] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[12:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (trusty-proposed/universe) [2.23.1~14.04 => 2.24.1~14.04] (no packageset)
[12:49]  * apw deals with snapd ^
[12:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected snapd [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.24.1+16.10]
[12:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected snapd [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.24.1]
[12:56] <rbasak> "deals with" :-P
[12:57] <mitya57> apw, right, I want the last qtbase which includes the first. (I uploaded the first, it was not accepted for some time, then I needed one more fix and uploaded it too)
[12:57] <apw> rbasak, they were duplicates ...
[12:58] <apw> rbasak, i am reviewing the rest, as i am familiar with the changes we asked for
[12:58] <mitya57> If two uploads is a problem, I can squash them into a single one.
[14:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: open-vm-tools (zesty-proposed/main) [2:10.1.5-5055683-1ubuntu1 => 2:10.1.5-5055683-1ubuntu1.1] (edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server)
[14:56] <slangasek> bdmurray: should the pending-sru report maybe show a bug as green instead of purple when it's verified for *this* series that we're currently looking at?
[14:58] <bdmurray> slangasek: because now if its purple you won't look at the bug, but if it's green you would?
[15:00] <slangasek> bdmurray: if I have a mix of green and purple I have to look at the bug to see if it's fixed for this release; if it's all green I know it should be ready to release and can just load up all the bugs for one final check
[15:02] <bdmurray> slangasek: ack, so it'd help with multi-bug SRUs.
[15:04] <slangasek> bdmurray: imho yes
[15:06] <howefield> x/exit
[15:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.24.1+16.10]
[15:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected graphviz [source] (trusty-proposed) [2.36.0-0ubuntu3.2]
[15:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: graphviz (trusty-proposed/main) [2.36.0-0ubuntu3.1 => 2.36.0-0ubuntu3.2] (core)
[15:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.24.1]
[15:20] <apw> slangasek, bdmurray could we just get rid of verification-needed et al and _only_ have per series ones ...
[15:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd [source] (trusty-proposed) [2.24.1~14.04]
[15:22] <rbasak> apw: +1
[15:22] <rbasak> I've considered asking for that too.
[15:22] <apw> we are afterall the only ones who put those in the request inside the bug via sru-foo
[15:23] <apw> we can detect people who don't read and use the old ones and auto respond on those
[15:24] <bdmurray> apw: I already made slangasek's change though! So you want to switch to tagging v-n-$series and v-d-$series?
[15:26] <apw> bdmurray, personally i find it confusing we have a tag for all series and one per series
[15:26] <apw> bdmurray, i assume so do people setting them
[15:27] <apw> bdmurray, or you may yet tell me that is not what the v-n means of course and i demonstrate how confused i am
[15:29] <bdmurray> apw: v-n captures that there is some kind of verification of the SRU needed so people could search LP for bugs needing verification with one tag.
[15:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted graphviz [source] (trusty-proposed) [2.36.0-0ubuntu3.2]
[15:29] <apw> bdmurray, ok so the sru-report will now essentially only show the state of the -series tags ?
[15:29] <bdmurray> apw: For verification-done that's my intent.
[15:30] <apw> bdmurray, i can see that that is useful as long as we are only using the -series ones
[15:30] <rbasak> Also sru-review needs to change to munge the existing tags correctly (and create the correct new ones)
[15:30] <apw> and that is just a convineince for "finding verification work"
[15:31] <apw> bdmurray, though in some sense if verification-needed is meant to set if any v-n-* exists then we ought to be doing that via a robot
[15:32] <bdmurray> Maybe we should open a bug so we can discuss this in a better medium than irc.
[15:32] <bdmurray> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-archive-tools
[15:38] <bdmurray> I think I understand what y'all want but don't want to put effort into the wrong thing, nor lose track of the idea since its not a one line / one tool fix.
[15:40] <rbasak> While we're on the subject...
[15:40] <rbasak> The git workflow stuff is able to do SRU reviews from the queue now.
[15:41] <rbasak> It's easier to review this way (IMHO anyway) because I can diff something in unapproved against anything in the archive currently (and indeed any tree in any upstream git repo)
[15:41] <rbasak> I'm still using sru-review to accept currently, as it does some other checks as well potentially.
[15:42] <rbasak> But I'd like to add queue accept and reject functions to the git workflow tool instead.
[15:42] <rbasak> To do that, maybe I could factor out the actual checking bits of sru-review/accept/release into some kind of API and access that instead?
[15:42] <rbasak> As I don't want to duplicate code.
[15:43] <rbasak> Anyway, opinions welcome.
[15:44] <rbasak> Perhaps if everyone wants to deprecate the current tools in favour of the git workflow, then duplicating the code for now and then ditching the old tooling would be easier.
[15:45] <nacc> and i'm 100% on board with making the tooling more flexible to support the most generic cases
[15:45] <nacc> don't want the tooling to dictate workflow, just to supprot it
[16:28] <bdmurray> wxl: You might want to have a look at bug 1633913.
[16:29] <wxl> bdmurray: thanks. we've been discussing what's up with that. it's a little unclear.
[16:29] <bdmurray> wxl: was xnox's comment not clear re the test case being missing?
[16:30] <wxl> bdmurray: i guess what i'm saying is we have no idea what change precipitated it.
[16:30] <bdmurray> wxl: the test case used to be there?
[16:30] <xnox> bdmurray, there is more discussion about it here and testing channels; as in the stock "No Network" tests as used in Ubuntu might not be suitable for Lubuntu.
[16:31] <wxl> bdmurray: yeah obviously the tests are something that need to be added, but that doesn't necessarily fix the problem at hand, which i'm a bit more concerned about at this point.
[16:31] <bdmurray> Okay, I hadn't seen the previous discussion and only looked at the bug. I justed wanted to make sure it was being discussed.
[16:34] <flocculant> xnox:  on the other hand almost all of the install testcases say "Available options should represent the state of your system accurately" and the first option relates to network. So if I booted and knew network was available - but didn't see the Download updates option - then I would fail the test
[16:35] <xnox> flocculant, the problem is that for a year, nobody did an offline test of lubuntu - e.g. start a VM without a network interface.
[16:36] <xnox> everybody seems to configure network / wifi; or use VMs with networking
[16:37] <flocculant> xnox: ohh I see - that's not something that we test either
[16:38] <xnox> flocculant, well, for ubuntu desktop there is a run-once "No Network" install test cases. and doing that for lubuntu would have caught the bug of not shipping a repository with debs sufficient to complete offline installs.
[16:41] <flocculant> xnox: right - I see that now - was perhaps reading things odd here
[16:42]  * flocculant wonders what happens for me
[16:52] <flocculant> no surprises
[16:55] <flocculant> tsimonq2: so when I see this testcase and deal with that side - you want it added to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testsuites/297/edit at the same time?
[18:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron (zesty-proposed/main) [2:10.0.0-0ubuntu5 => 2:10.0.0-0ubuntu5.1] (openstack, ubuntu-server) (sync)
[19:21] <tumbleweed> ./win 34
[19:21] <tumbleweed> win 34
[19:24] <slangasek> bdmurray: +1 for dropping purple altogether, then
[19:25] <slangasek> bdmurray: fwiw I thought it was useful to know "this bug was verified for some series but not this one" because it seems like that's low-hanging fruit to get the verification done by prodding someone on the bug
[19:30] <bdmurray> slangasek: okay
[21:00] <tsimonq2> bdmurray: fwiw I filed a bug about adding the test before xnox said anything, I picked up on that.
[21:09] <tsimonq2> flocculant: Which testcase?
[21:11] <slangasek> bdmurray: should I also drop the remaining reference to 'purple' in the text?
[21:16] <bdmurray> slangasek: refresh, I caught that in 1094
[21:20] <slangasek> bdmurray: done and merged, thanks!
[23:03] <tsimonq2> What's this do? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/package-team-mapping.json
[23:13] <slangasek> it occupies space on a disk
[23:14] <tsimonq2> XD
[23:14] <tsimonq2> slangasek: What's the file mean?
[23:14] <tsimonq2> What's it's purpose?
[23:14] <slangasek> it provides a cache mapping source packages to teams which are considered owners of those packages, in Ubuntu main
[23:15] <infinity> As far as I can tell, its purpose is to point out that Foudnations is the bug subscriber for way too many things.
[23:15] <tsimonq2> lol :P
[23:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-mate-welcome (zesty-proposed/universe) [17.04.11 => 17.04.12] (ubuntu-mate)


[07:18] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:24] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[07:25] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[07:36] <xypron> I am looking for a sponsor for ktexteditor 5.90.0-0ubuntu2 available in ppa:xypron/kde which fixes a bug in Kate (LP: #1958090)
[07:40] <jpnurmi> good morning
[07:40] <jpnurmi> hey duflu and oSoMoN
[07:42] <duflu> Hi jpnurmi
[07:52] <ricotz> good morning :)
[07:52] <ricotz> hey oSoMoN duflu jpnurmi
[07:59] <jpnurmi> good morning ricotz
[08:07] <duflu> Hi ricotz
[08:08] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[08:09] <duflu> Hi seb128
[08:09] <didrocks> good morning
[08:09] <didrocks> hey duflu, seb128
[08:10] <seb128> hey duflu, ricotz, lut didrocks, how are you? had a nice weekend?
[08:12] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[08:12] <jpnurmi> hey didrocks and seb128
[08:12] <duflu> seb128, yeah a few birthday celebrations but that also means no time for a regular weekend
[08:13] <duflu> How was yours, seb128?
[08:13] <didrocks> seb128: week-end was heavy outside work, but fine, and you?
[08:13] <didrocks> hey jpnurmi
[08:13] <seb128> hey jpnurmi
[08:13] <seb128> duflu, oh, happy birthday to you some days late!
[08:14] <seb128> didrocks, it was alright, busy but nice, I'm often I'm glad it's monday though :)
[08:14] <duflu> seb128, thanks but I'm old enough to not want to celebrate it.
[08:14] <ricotz> hey, I had slow and relaxing weekend :)
[08:14] <duflu> Still, we did and it was nice to see family and friends
[08:15] <duflu> Not so nice is that it looks like Covid is reaching Western Australia properly, finally
[08:18] <seb128> :-(
[08:18] <seb128> I've been reading about Covid and Australia through the tennis news...
[08:19] <duflu> Hah. Yeah that's different. That's celebrity news and the eastern states are very different
[08:20] <duflu> They have a higher rate per-capita than USA
[08:32] <RikMills> morning all
[08:32] <RikMills> xypron: I will have a look at that later today. thanks
[08:35] <seb128> hey RikMills, how are you?
[08:36] <RikMills> seb128: good so far for a Monday ;)
[08:36] <RikMills> hope all are the same :)
[08:41] <duflu> Morning RikMills
[08:46] <didrocks> hey RikMills !
[13:09] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hi :), do you know if there any progress for rustc 1.57?
[14:41] <oSoMoN> ricotz, no, let me ping Michael about it
[14:49] <ricotz> oSoMoN, thank you, I was hoping that updating the bug report would be of help
[14:53] <ricotz> oSoMoN, the hirsute target could be removed from the bug too
[14:53] <oSoMoN> you're right, I'll remove it
[15:09] <bittin> https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-desktop-installer/issues/616 did not get the new installer to workt oday
[15:09] <bittin> *today
[15:14] <seb128> bittin, hey, do you have any detail on the error maybe?
[15:14] <bittin> seb128, can run it again and take a screenshot if that helps?
[15:15] <seb128> bittin, it would help to at least describe the issue. Is the ISO not starting? Is the installer crashing? Is it displaying an error?
[15:15] <bittin> Installer is crashing when its trying to start the install
[15:15] <seb128> but yes, a screenshot showing the error would help
[15:15] <seb128> bittin, ideally you would attach /var/log/installer/ubuntu-desktop-installer.log to the bug
[15:16] <bittin> alright, seeing what i can do and updating the bug soon
[15:22] <bittin> seb128, log and screenshot attached
[15:23] <seb128> bittin, thanks
[15:23] <bittin> np
[15:30] <seb128> bittin, could you also add /var/log/installer/subiquity-server-debug.log ?
[15:35] <bittin> sure coming right up
[15:40] <bittin> there now
[15:40] <bittin> jpnurmi says there might be a fix soon
[15:42] <jpnurmi> dbungert has a fix for this in subiquity, but it exposed a new problem, so they are still looking into it
[15:43] <bittin> ah alright good to know, well 3,5 months left about :)
[15:43] <bittin> also en finne som bor i Sverige :p
[15:43] <bittin> small world
[15:43] <bittin> lives on the other side myself however in Stockholm
[15:45] <bittin> well as long as it can install 21th April when the release is out, will try next canary in a week too and see if it works better then, but glad to hear you are working on it
[15:46] <seb128> jpnurmi, do we have a bug or PR for the subiquity fix and the new issue you could reference on this report?
[15:47] <jpnurmi> bittin: yeah, i somehow ended up in... Bollebygd :)
[15:48] <jpnurmi> seb128, looks like it was merged already. i'll give it a try with the latest subiquity https://github.com/canonical/subiquity/pull/1161
[15:48] <bittin> ah yeah, checked out your Twitter a bit :p
[15:49] <seb128> jpnurmi, thanks
[15:50] <bittin> cool thanks, will make another try with next weeks test builds then, cyas
[16:16] <jpnurmi> no joy, needs https://github.com/canonical/subiquity/pull/1163 too
[20:02] <seb128> ricotz, hey, any chance you could poke at the dee build failure? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/579465082/buildlog_ubuntu-jammy-amd64.dee_1.2.7+17.10.20170616-6ubuntu2_BUILDING.txt.gz
[20:52] <ricotz> seb128, hi, https://paste.debian.net/plain/1227443
[21:02] <seb128> ricotz, thanks!
[21:08] <ricotz> seb128, hopefully it won't break with vala 0.55.x again


[00:35] <jbicha> tsimonq2: see comment 2 on the bug for a minimal fix
[22:49] <guiverc> is Walter's image showing on discourse for anyone else?  I suspect it's too large   (I usually shrink prior to posting)
[22:51] <guiverc> (may also be url itself0
[22:52] <guiverc> its showing in private mode (firefox).. just not when logged in as me..  do we need a correction? or okay for others?
[22:53] <wxl> i think you mean it's NOT showing in private mode?
[22:54] <guiverc> nah, I can see it in private mode, but it's blank on my logged in session)
[22:54] <wxl> weird. i have the opposite problem
[22:54] <guiverc> I'm not fussed about 'private' much.. but I want users of discourse to see it!
[22:55] <wxl> right
[22:55] <wxl> let me edit it and link to the pagfe
[22:56] <wxl> there added the link
[22:56] <wxl> i just opened firefox in a fresh live session and i can see it when not logged in
[22:58] <wxl> and in that same session when logged in....... i can't see it
[22:58] <wxl> @teward001 you have any clues?
[22:58] <wxl> https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/mantic-wallpaper/4539
[22:58] <guiverc> i can't rule out it being a caching issue on my own box (thus i'm just wasting your time), but feedback from others if they can see it, or it's just my & wxl's firefox...
[22:58] <guiverc> no change here wxl
[22:59] <wxl> so now i'm reproducing what you're seeing guiverc but i did add a link under the pic
[22:59]  * guiverc gets the same blank when using chromium too
[22:59] <wxl> you get a blank PAGE or just the image is blank and it says "Mantic wallpaper" instead?
[23:00] <guiverc> thanks wxl; my window isn't large enough and I'd not scrolled down... the LINK fixes the issue for me thank you wxl
[23:00] <guiverc> I like it by the way !
[23:00] <wxl> thanks :)
[23:02] <guiverc> yep.. that's what I see.
[23:02] <guiverc> we've covered it now though due to your fix (adding alternate way to view)
[23:02] <wxl> weird
[23:04]  * guiverc just hates web browsers..  alas we need 'em
[23:04] <wxl> indeed
 Discourse hates Firefox IME
 probably a disk cache thing but i'll have to look when I am NOT dead.
 wxl: developer console.  open it and show any error messagss
 important missing debug info is in there ;)
 cause it helps me understand why the browser is failing to display it and such which helps debugging
 as @tsimonq2 already knows and refuses to ask others to check too
 *slaps @tsimonq2*
 oh it's never worked on Firefox mobile ever
 well thats Firefox mobile.  Live browsers on the other hand
 Firefox mobile Nightly I might add
 you still know F12 devel console is important for this stuff
 same thing - mobile ffox is its own blehness (re @tsimonq2: Firefox mobile Nightly I might add)
 /me hands @teward001 some melatonin, nyquil, and some coffee for the morning
 After your slumber @teward001 https://phab.lubuntu.me/P78
[23:46] <Eickmeyer> Also can't see it, but my Nextcloud link shows up just fine.


[21:57] <iceroot> jamesdc: dont use fakeraids, use software-raids
[21:57] <cook1es_> When trying to save index.html in /var/www/ I get Permission denied. How do I give myself permission?
[21:57] <ikonia> jamesdc: yes, and I strongly advise against it
[21:57] <demonspork> jamesdc, softwar raid using LVM is better to manage
[21:57] <jamesdc> I would but I still need to be able to duel boot and use windows
[21:58] <aikInsaan> is there a checksum tool be default in ubuntu?
[21:58] <dr_willis> RichardRaseley:  check out geany
[21:58] <szal> aikInsaan: md5sum, sha1sum, sha256sum..
[21:58] <aikInsaan> thanks
[21:58] <iceroot> jamesdc: ok so windows should also be on raid
[21:59] <Psydoll> Hello is there a way to ftp in ubuntu directly from the command line without using a client like filezilla?
[21:59] <sudokill> cook1es_, save it as root
[21:59] <jamesdc> Is it possible to have a "half" software raid, so that half the disk would be used for a software raid and the rest of it would be just be normal?
[21:59] <ikonia> Psydoll: yes, "ftp" is the command
[21:59] <iceroot> jamesdc: sure
[21:59] <dr_willis> Psydoll:  theres the classic command line 'ftp' client.....
[21:59] <Psydoll> ikonia: dr_willis ty
[21:59] <dr_willis> Psydoll:  been around for.. err.. decades :)
[21:59] <iceroot> jamesdc: raid is build on partitons not on drives
[21:59] <Foxx> terry: http://pastebin.com/a2QdsAh8
[21:59] <cook1es_> sudokill: thanks! How do I do that?
[21:59] <dr_willis> Psydoll:  be sure to set transfers to 'binary' type.. ;)
[21:59] <sudokill> cook1es_, are you editing a file?
[21:59] <jamesdc> Excellent, thanks iceroot
[22:00] <sudokill> cook1es_, if so, edit it as root
[22:00] <sudokill> e.g. sudo nano, gksudo gedit etc
[22:00] <Psydoll> dr_willis: that just kind of put me off, what do you mean set to binary type?
[22:00] <cook1es_> sudokill: No, trying to create a new one and putting it there
[22:00] <Foxx> Terry, grep 818 is still going
[22:00] <terry> Foxx: lsmod |grep 818
[22:00] <sudokill> cook1es_, you can make it as user and use root to copy / move it
[22:00] <qin> Foxx: Stop it! You scanning whole drive.
[22:00] <terry> Foxx: Ctrl-c ; lsmod |grep 818
[22:00] <Testtube1> Foxx that last thing you did looks wrong
[22:01] <simprix> I am trying to upgrade 6.06 LTS to 8.04 LTS. I have followed this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades. When I run do-release-upgrade it fails. Looking at the logs it is trying to insert a archive source for dapper instead of what is on old-releases. Is there a way to get this upgraded?
[22:01] <dr_willis> Psydoll:   ftp can do binary, or 'ascii' transfers.. years ago it defaulted to ascii, whoch could screw up binary files..  you always had to rember to tell ftp to use binary for its transfers..
[22:01] <Foxx> Terry, from that, I get no feedback at all
[22:01] <dr_willis> Psydoll:  really in this day and age.. you should be uysing ssh and scp.. and forget ftp even exists
[22:01] <Testtube1> Foxx he is asking you to grep for 818 which i am assuming because of the model
[22:01] <qin> simprix: You would be much better either with fresh install, or having medieval version of Ubuntu.
[22:02] <cook1es_> sudokill: The paste is grayed out when I right click inside the /www/ folder
[22:02] <terry> Foxx: modprobe rtl8187
[22:02] <Psydoll> dr_willis: thanks im using it now
[22:02] <sudokill> cook1es_, you dont use the paste button
[22:02] <dr_willis> Psydoll:  read up at ---> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[22:02] <Testtube1> Foxx please run the command i mentioned at the beggining.
[22:02] <sudokill> cook1es_, sudo cp or mv
[22:02] <rww> terry: rtl8187 uses modules named 'wl' or 'b43', depending on which driver you go with.
 modprobe rtl8187 ?
[22:02] <rww> terry: oh, wait, no, I'm getting mixed up between my two computers >.>
[22:02] <simprix> qin, So your teling me that this won't work because the mirrors have been moved to old-releases but this would of worked before 6/31
[22:02] <Foxx> Terry: http://pastebin.com/52YQZ4f8
[22:03]  * rww needs to sleep more
[22:03] <qin> simprix: It will just take longer to upgarde.
[22:03] <Testtube1> Foxx are you root?
[22:03] <cook1es_> sudokill: im supernew with the terminal, do I just type like sudo mv /desktop/ /var/www/ ??
[22:03] <terry> Foxx: sudo modprobe rtl8187
[22:03] <Testtube1> :)
[22:04] <sudokill> cook1es_, yes, sudo mv (the file) to (the location)
[22:04] <terry> Testtube1: No, he's not root, he's Foxx  :)
[22:04] <Testtube1> hehe
[22:04] <sudokill> cook1es_, tell me the the file and where you want to put it
[22:05] <Foxx> Terry: good one :p and I ran the line, but got no feedback
[22:05] <Testtube1> Foxx: I am Excited what was the results?
[22:05] <terry> Foxx: See if it works.
[22:05] <Testtube1> Foxx: i think that is normal
[22:05] <CharonX> Question: what are the recommended gems to look at for offloading background jobs from a rails application to another computer. Ex: processing a large text file, it is uploaded and passed to another computer which handles the processing then returns a status once complete. most articles I can find are two years old. Some recommend backgroundrb and some say stay away. But all old articles ....
[22:05] <Testtube1> Should work now Foxx
[22:06] <cook1es_> sudokill: oh cool! I experimented abit and did sudo geany and had root access with geany then. you probably said that though haha. anyways just for the knowledge sake.. from desktop/index.html to var/www/
[22:06] <Foxx> Testtube1: it is recognized but it says the device is not managed
[22:06] <CharonX> Oh crap... sorry wrong channel
[22:07] <sudokill> cook1es_, yea you can run any app as root with sudo. but for graphical apps use gksu or gksudo, its not needed  most of the time but good practice
[22:07] <piotr_> halo
[22:07] <cook1es_> sudokill: I assume that will cause the app not to close when I press ctrl+c?
[22:07] <Testtube1> I think you need to change managed=false to true
[22:07] <simprix> qin, Thats fine. These are production servers. I plan to go from 6.06 to 8.04 to 10.04
[22:07] <sudokill> cook1es_, no any app will close with ctrl c most the time
[22:08] <Foxx> Testtube1: how do I do that? O.o
[22:08] <cook1es_> sudokill: ah, what is the point of gksudo and is it possible to avoid that ctrl c thing?
[22:08] <sudokill> cook1es_, just dont press ctrl+c
[22:08] <sudokill> lol
[22:08] <dr_willis> gksudo has nothing to do with ctrl-c....
[22:08] <Testtube1> what is inside /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf
[22:08] <qin> !6.06
[22:09] <cook1es_> sudokill: lol
[22:09] <Foxx> Testtube1, Okay.. I will check. give me a sec
[22:09] <dr_willis> ctrl-c = the unix/linux/old-skool standard for 'closeing' an app/killing it.. them MS took it over for 'copy/paste'
[22:09] <aikInsaan> i have just downloaded lubuntu 11.04 (32bit) and checked the md5 checksum on the torrented iso...which matches but when i run 'usb-creator.exe' it reports a ' End-of-central-directory signature not found...' error
[22:09] <Testtube1> Foxx: I am not sure about this part But i think there will be a statement that says false in there.
[22:09] <aikInsaan> an suggestions on what could have gone wrong?
[22:09] <Testtube1> Foxx: that needs to be true.
[22:09] <aikInsaan> or possibly what my noob hands are doing incorrectly?
[22:09] <nit-wit> aikInsaan, you might try unetbootin
[22:10] <Foxx> testtube1: okay. I changed it
[22:10] <Testtube1> foxx
[22:10] <Testtube1> Foxx before you make changes make a backup of the file
[22:10] <Testtube1> would be my suggestion
[22:10] <sudokill> aikInsaan, no idea
[22:10] <zykotick9> aikInsaan, are you opening the .exe from windows or gnu/linux?
[22:10] <cook1es_> dr_willis: and then linux followed with it and changed close window to ctrl + w? :P
[22:10] <cook1es_> sudokill: thanks alot btw, it was very helpful
[22:10] <sudokill> ok
[22:10] <Testtube1> Foxx: did that do anything?
[22:10] <aikInsaan> zykotick9: sorry i should have mentioned...i am on natty
[22:11] <aikInsaan> so linux
[22:11] <Foxx> testtube1: nope
[22:11] <dr_willis> cook1es_:  actually that would be the WIndowmanger designers.. not linux. :)
[22:11] <Psydoll> dr_willis: Hello, I have used the FTP program to successfully download from my shell a file, though "put" a file on the shell account is harder, how to i specify which file i want to "put" there ie put thefilename.jpg for example?
[22:11] <ryan__> I am trying to run httpd (apache) on ubuntu server but I'm getting "/usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" I ran "whereis libpcre.so.0" and it does exist in several places. Do I need to make a symbolic link somewhere?
[22:11] <zykotick9> aikInsaan, that's why you're getting that error.  The EXE is opening in file-roller.
[22:11] <Foxx> testtube1: would a log out / log in help at this point?
[22:11] <Testtube1> Foxx: does it still say not managed?
[22:11] <ikonia> Psydoll: exactly that, put $filename
[22:11] <nit-wit> aikInsaan, usenthye natty usb creator .exe=windows
[22:11] <Foxx> Testtube1: yup....
[22:11] <Psydoll> ikonia: the $ is important?
[22:11] <Psydoll> let me try
[22:11] <Testtube1> Foxx: please try that.
[22:11] <synackfin> how do I get the full cmdline of a pid from /proc?  (/proc/pid/cmdline seems to be truncated to the first 4096 bytes)
[22:11] <ab555> Hello, I just dual installed win 7 and ubuntu, ubuntu being the first install, it ate the bootloader, does it matter what live cs version i use tryingt o reinstall grub?
[22:12] <terry> Foxx: Is this machine online now?
[22:12] <ikonia> Psydoll: no
[22:12] <ikonia> Psydoll: eg: put /etc/hosts
[22:12] <ikonia> Psydoll: it was an example file name
[22:12] <nit-wit> ab555, yes
[22:12] <dr_willis> Psydoll:  this is when you check the ftp docs. and  online tutorials for the ftp command line client.. ive not used it in 20 years. there are command line file managers like 'mc' that can do ftp with a nice ncurses gui.  i strongly suggest learning SSH and SCP...
[22:12] <Psydoll> ikonia: thank you i was unsure if i had to list the directory
[22:12] <terry> Foxx: Are you plugged in to a wired network now?  Or...?
[22:12] <qin> simprix: What how to did you follow?
[22:12] <nit-wit> ab555, what is the ubuntu install?
[22:12] <aikInsaan> nit-wit: aha! is that called wubi?
[22:12] <ab555> nit-wit: im running ubuntu 10.10
[22:12] <Testtube1> Foxx : please run this sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart
[22:12] <Testtube1> Foxx: and this sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:12] <ab555> nit-wit: dont see a live cs for that on their website
[22:12] <szal> !grub | nit-wit
[22:12] <ab555> cd*
[22:13] <Testtube1> Oh no!
[22:13] <Psydoll> dr_willis: do you the the ftp command line client is completely outdated and it would be more beneficial to learn ssh and scp?
[22:13] <nit-wit> ab555, Natty needs a natty but 10.10 could use another,. What live cd's do you have?
[22:13] <ryan__> is anybody here familiar with Apache web server?
[22:13] <ikonia> ryan__: yes
[22:13] <ab555> nit-wit: 10.04
[22:13] <ryan__> ikonia: I am trying to run httpd (apache) on ubuntu server but I'm getting "/usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" I ran "whereis libpcre.so.0" and it does exist in several places. Do I need to make a symbolic link somewhere?
[22:13] <terry> ryan__: What do you need?
[22:13] <simprix> qin, Do you have any suggestions or a kb article
[22:14] <nit-wit> ab555, probably okay, personally I would use a 10.10
[22:14] <dr_willis> Psydoll:  ive said several times... learn ssh/scp/sftp and forget ftp ever existed....
[22:14] <simprix> qin, Do you have any suggestions or a kb article
[22:14] <Testtube1> Was that a netsplit?
[22:14] <ab555> nit-wit: where can i get a 10.10 iso?
[22:14] <terry> ryan__: Use locate
[22:14] <ikonia> ryan__: apache from the ubuntu package manager is not installed in /usr/local/apache - how did you install it
[22:14] <qin> simprix: http://wiki.slicehost.com/doku.php?id=upgrade_ubuntu-server_lts_to_lts
[22:14] <Psydoll> dr_willis: I will thanks
[22:14] <nit-wit> ab555, hold on
[22:14] <sudokill> Testtube1, ^ that ^
[22:14] <rww> Testtube1: one of the servers went nuts
[22:14] <ryan__> ikonia: I built it myself.
[22:14] <dr_willis> Psydoll:  thres also fuse-ftp tools that can mount a remote ftp server to a local directory.. (not used them however)
[22:15] <ikonia> ryan__: ok, why ? Ubuntu packages a fully compatible and supported version
[22:15] <Testtube1> Welcome back Foxx
[22:15] <Foxx> Testtube1: It didnt do anything :/
[22:15] <simprix> qin, That would work fine. But those sources aren't valid as they are now on old-releases
[22:15] <Testtube1> Foxx did you run
[22:15] <Testtube1> Foxx : please run this sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart
[22:15] <ryan__> ikonia: I guess out of curiosity. I'm just frustrated that I can't get it working. I'm sure I had the same problem on my CentOS server too.
[22:15] <Testtube1> Foxx: and this sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:15] <ryan__> I forget how I fixed it
[22:15] <JoAnneThrax> Hi, all...
[22:16] <JoAnneThrax> What do I have to do to get the eject command to recognize my CD/DVD drive?
[22:16] <ikonia> ryan__: suggest using the ubuntu version
[22:16] <ryan__> ok
[22:16] <nit-wit> ab555, http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/    I assume you know how to reoload grub, would you like a link for that.;)
[22:16] <simprix> qin, When I try to run do-release-upgrade it fails as it is continuing to try to use a mirror on archive which isn't valid anymore.
[22:16] <dr_willis> JoAnneThrax:  eject can take a /dev/sr0 type option. if its using the wrong device i recall.
[22:16] <ab555> nit-wit: found something on the forums that should suffice, thanks man
[22:16] <DzonyKalafut> Hi I have strange problem, when I deleted some files with pcmanfm they went to ~/local/share/Trash, then I deleted them from there, they dissappeared but they still taking up space
[22:16] <Foxx> Testtube1: it still says the same thing
[22:17] <Testtube1> Foxx when you edited the file are you sure it saved your changes?
[22:17] <JoAnneThrax> dr_willis: thanks...that worked.  Is there a way to make it the default?
[22:17] <nit-wit> ab555, coo, good luck.
[22:17] <aikInsaan> what's the command to format a usb stick?
[22:17] <nit-wit> *cool*
[22:17] <aikInsaan> ?mformat
[22:17] <Foxx> Testtube1: I will go and check.
[22:17] <terry> aikInsaan: Same as for any other disk.  What fs do you want to use?
[22:17] <DzonyKalafut> Did this happen to anyone? I asumed that when I delete files from Trash folder they'll be gone
[22:17] <dr_willis> JoAnneThrax:  never noticed.. never needed to.  change it.. you could check the man pages for eject. or make an alias spititout='eject /dev/sr0'   (or somting like that)
[22:18] <terry> aikInsaan: mkdosfs  is probably what you want.  Right?
[22:18] <nit-wit> aikInsaan, use gparted or the disk utility
[22:18] <Foxx> Testtube1: what was the file location?
[22:18] <Testtube1> terry: any suggestion for foxx now that the device is found it says unamanged?
[22:18] <aikInsaan> terry: ntfs i reckon...want to prep it for lubuntu
[22:18] <Testtube1> Edit /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf and set managed=true
[22:18] <JoAnneThrax> dr_wills where do I put that alias?  .bashrc or something?
[22:18] <terry> aikInsaan: First do  sudo fdisk -l   and make sure which partition it is.
[22:18] <dr_willis> JoAnneThrax:  yes. theres alias's in there allready for examples
[22:19] <JoAnneThrax> "If omitted, name defaults to `cdrom'"
[22:19] <terry> aikInsaan: So what is it?  /dev/sdb1  or....  what?
[22:19] <thephased> hello. i'm having trouble getting zonet (ralink) wifi n pci card working in 11.04. I've followed the instructions in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1728899 but wifi still isn't coming on.
[22:19] <JoAnneThrax> I wonder if there's a way to make it recognize that cdrom is /dev/sr0
[22:19] <aikInsaan> terry: its /dev/sdb1
[22:20] <Foxx> Testtube1: Yes, it was set
[22:20] <Testtube1> Foxx: :(
[22:20] <terry> aikInsaan: If you're sure that's it, then do    sudo mkdosfs /dev/sdb1
[22:20] <Testtube1> Foxx: is there a toggle for only for the device?
[22:20] <Testtube1> on and *off?
[22:21] <simprix> qin, do you have any other suggestions
[22:21] <aikInsaan> terry: okay..thanks! will report if any probs
[22:21] <JoAnneThrax> Oh, I figured it out...my computer has /dev/cdrom1 symlinked to /dev/sr0
[22:21] <Foxx> Testtube1: do you mean on the dongle? If you do, no there isnt.
[22:21] <terry> Foxx:  iwconfig   #What does that say about it?
[22:22] <cook1es_> how can I restart my apache server on ubuntu?
[22:22] <Mandrew> hi how do i purge unity?
[22:22] <Foxx> Terry: http://pastebin.com/1dXe0xmM
[22:22] <terry> cook1es_: service
[22:22] <Jordan_U> aikInsaan: Note that if you give the wrong device to mkdosfs you will lose all data on that device...
[22:23] <sudokill> Mandrew, purge unity?
[22:23] <aikInsaan> terry: its says 'mkdosfs: /dev/sdb1 contains a mounted file system.'
[22:23] <terry> cook1es_: or:   /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[22:23] <thephased> hm. after a make install of drivers for my ralink wifi card, i did a modprobe. do i need to do anything else to get the card to work on ubuntu?
[22:23] <qin> simprix: Hm, have found drapper iso, but no active mirror ;(
[22:23] <JoAnneThrax> problem solved.  Thanks, dr_willis
[22:23] <blink> how can i prevent the screen from idle blank page?
[22:23] <Foxx> testtube1: did you see this: http://pastebin.com/1dXe0xmM
[22:24] <terry> aikInsaan: If you have it mounted, it must be already formatted.  Why do you want to format it if it is already formatted?
[22:24] <babble> thephased: that's what I did :)
[22:24] <Testtube1> Foxx: I am not a smart man but that looks positive.
[22:24] <qin> simprix: http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224419 ???
[22:24] <thephased> i did an lspci -nn on the card, and it is the right drivers for the right card.
[22:24] <terry> aikInsaan: (It is not good to try and format a filesystem that is mounted.)
[22:24] <thephased> do i need to logout of ubuntu first or reboot?
[22:24] <babble> it'll stick around until you upgrade your kernel (keep the configured makefile and source package around)
[22:24] <terry> aikInsaan:   mount   #What does that say about it?
[22:25] <thephased> hm oh ok babble.
[22:25] <babble> thephased, rebooting is easiest
[22:25] <Mandrew> sudokill, yes purge, un-install
[22:25] <Foxx> Testtube1: any ideas?
[22:25] <simprix> qin, I found other mirrors. But do-release-upgrade still tries to use archive.ubuntu.com for something
[22:25] <bsmith093> im reinstalling, which do i backup .mozilla-thunderbird or .thunderbird
[22:25] <aikInsaan> terry: putting lubuntu on it using unetbootin....so i am good to simply delete the data off it and carry on  i guess
[22:25] <Testtube1> can you paste ifconfig?
[22:25] <blink> how can i prevent the screen from idle blank page? the screen goes black everytime i watch a movie ;/
[22:25] <babble> oh, doh, rebooting is your only real option, it's a kernel extension, not a module. heh. (I can be a newb, sorry)
[22:25] <terry> aikInsaan: Yea, just delete the files.
[22:25] <sudokill> Mandrew, i, not sure if thatd mess anything up.
[22:25] <Testtube1> oi it says its not connecting to a AP
[22:25] <thephased> would there be any problem using regular ralink drivers on ubuntu 64-bit? could that be why it isn't working?
[22:26] <itaylor57> Mandrew, use classic gnome on login
[22:26] <sudokill> Mandrew, if you dont like it use the fallback or another distro
[22:26] <sudokill> ubuntu = unity
[22:26] <babble> thephased, did you compile it from the source package? If so, your compiled driver is 64 bit for you :)
[22:26] <Foxx> Testtube1: http://pastebin.com/58GVb23V
[22:26] <cook1es_> terry: I think im stuck in gksudo geany how do I get out of that without closing geany?
[22:26] <itaylor57> !classic | Mandrew
[22:26] <thephased> hm, i don't think i compiled it. i just did a make then make install. i didnt do a "./"
[22:26] <terry> thephased: If you are asking if you can use 32-bit stuff on a 64-bit system, the answer is yes, (if you load 32-bit libraries)
[22:27] <phong_> hi guys,  any idea why  ican't join ircfreenode with android hotspot access with t-mobile internet?
[22:27] <thephased> oh ok. thanks terry, ill try rebooting then
[22:27] <phong_> does this server block from accessing with phone?
[22:27] <babble> thephased, you compiled :) Make and Make Install are compiling from source, not installing a downloaded binary
[22:27] <szal> thephased: 'make' _is_ compiling
[22:27] <terry> cook1es_: I dono, don't think you can.  What are you tring to do?
[22:27] <babble> you're MAKEing a binary that you then install (that's the make install bit)
[22:27] <Testtube1> Foxx
[22:27] <Testtube1> Foxx: one sec
[22:27] <thephased> haha alright
[22:27] <mandrake> dont think I can?
[22:27] <babble> when you ran make, it compiled for your CPU (so that will be 64 bit on 64-bit processors)
[22:28] <babble> but keep the source package around.
[22:28] <babble> you'll need to make/make install again when the kernel updates
[22:28] <cook1es_> terry: well I want to keep my geany up with sudo access.. while I use terminal for other stuff :/ any ideas?
[22:30] <Testtube1> Foxx iwconfig comes to mind but i am not sure if could walk you through that.
[22:30] <Tracks> I just installed another OS and finally got my grub back but I don't have hte option to boot back into Ubuntu.
[22:30] <Tracks> Where can I find the code to put on menu/lst to get it to boot up?
[22:30] <JoAnneThrax> Anyone know what package openldap is under now?  I need the PPKlite.api to get the acroread plugin working...
[22:30] <Foxx> Testtube1: erm...I can run the command?
[22:31] <Tracks> Nevermind my question.
[22:31] <Testtube1> Foxx i would man iwconfig
[22:31] <Testtube1> I am not familiar enough with iwconfig to walk you through it remotely
[22:32] <JoAnneThrax> Wait...I seem to have it...it's just not working.
[22:32] <Testtube1> Perhaps someone here can
[22:32] <Testtube1> terry: What do you think?
[22:32] <thephased> i'm having another problem actually. and i think it's a simple fix, but i don't know how to add it to my usb stick for every boot. im getting "NET: Registered protocol family 1" every time i boot. Isn't that something to do with apci?
[22:32] <thephased> like i need to add noacpi
[22:32] <Foxx> Testtube1: I cannot stay on much longer. I have to be somewhere at 6:00
[22:33] <Testtube1> Foxx sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[22:34] <naxil> helllo
[22:34] <naxil> i have a question about ffmpeg
[22:34] <Testtube1> Foxx what is the ssid of your wireless network?
[22:34] <Testtube1> it should list all of the broadcasting ssids
[22:34] <Foxx> Testtube1: <naxil> i have a question about ffmpeg
[22:34] <Foxx> a;ldkfj;
[22:34] <qin> simprix: Did you # them in sources?
[22:35] <Foxx> Testtube1: wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[22:35] <qin> simprix: And is it vps?
[22:35] <simprix> the archive ones? They keep coming back everytime you run do-release-upgrade
[22:36] <Foxx> Testtube1: would a reboot do anything at all??
[22:36] <Psydoll> ikonia: im curious how long have you been using linux?
[22:36] <Testtube1> what is your ssid foxx?
[22:37] <Foxx> Testtube1: I am not at home... I cant check
[22:37] <Testtube1> or is it hidden
[22:37] <qin> simprix: Yes, # main repos, and update with working mirror, so you get only "Hit".
[22:37] <Testtube1> is wireless available where you are at with the dongle?
[22:37] <qin> naxil: What question?
[22:38] <simprix> qin, you aren't understanding. What I put in my sources.list is not being used when you run do-release upgrade. It is trying to use a archive.ubuntu.com
[22:38] <Foxx> Testtube1: sure is, but I cannot see it in the network manager. the manager only tells me it isnt managed
[22:38] <StepNjump> Hi, I would like to install hdsentinel. http://www.hdsentinel.com/hdslin.php Could anyone please tell me how to do that?
[22:38] <naxil> foxx
[22:38] <Foxx> naxil, yes?
[22:38] <rojikku> New graphics card, saphire radeon HD 6870... OS ubuntu 11.04.. two monitors.. proprietary drivers.. and... for SOME reason, now my LEFT monitor has my main panels instead of the right one *is peeved* and i cant figure out how to drag them, tried alt click, WHAT DO I NEED TO DO TO DRAG THEM NOW?! Dx
[22:39] <naxil> the question is about the options of awscaler -bicubic...
[22:39] <naxil> what is this options?
[22:39] <Foxx> naxil: you lost me
[22:39] <naxil> the filter is the same of the video games or emulator?
[22:39] <naxil> why?
[22:40] <rojikku> improveupon: uhm.. i dont know what the convo is, but thats in your compiz settings, probably ^-~
[22:40] <Testtube1> Foxx i am a bit lost.
[22:40] <szal> StepNjump: what does this do that smartctl doesn't?
[22:40] <rojikku> << so. NOBODY knows how to drag desktop panels in ubuntu 11.04? *already googled and wasnt having luck*
[22:40] <Foxx> Testtube1: Well thank you for the help. I have to go... I have 20 min before I am late.
[22:41] <cook1es_> terry: http://localhostr.com/files/XUXajOO/capture.png
[22:41] <naxil> i nees help about the ffmpeg options awscaler -bicubic??
[22:41] <bsmith093> can i safely upload the gnupg folder in home in the clear, or should i encrypt it?
[22:42] <StepNjump> I need to know the temperature of my hard drive cuz it's very hot here1
[22:42] <StepNjump> I need to know the temperature of my hard drive cuz it's very hot here! szal
[22:42] <rww> !lm-sensors
[22:42] <rojikku> ._. draging panels. gnome. ubuntu 11.04. how?
[22:44] <qin> simprix: Feel clueless.
[22:44] <rww> oh joy, lag time again.
[22:44] <mehwork> what do i need to get flashplayer for a 64bit machine running ubuntu?
[22:45] <FunnyLookinHat> mehwork, Try this ? http://digitizor.com/2011/07/14/flash-11-64-bit-linux/
[22:45] <mehwork> do i still need to get the x86-64 ppa
[22:45] <FunnyLookinHat> That's what I did - it worked... problem is some websites detect something besides 10.X and fart out on you.
[22:45] <FunnyLookinHat> AFAIK yes.
[22:46] <FunnyLookinHat> mehwork, Err - instructions here: http://digitizor.com/2011/07/14/install-64-bit-flash-11-ubuntu-11-04/
[22:47] <szal> StepNjump: 194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   139   070   000    Old_age   Always       -       33 <- example from one of my HDDs
[22:47] <fffff> hiya guys. i'm trying to completely automate an install and I'm 99.5% of the way there, but I can't figure out how to specify the keyboard options. The 11.04 installation guide suggests I can do something like console-setup/ask_detect=false console-setup/layoutcode=us  but they're\ not working.
[22:47] <mehwork> FunnyLookinHat: i have lucid lynx btw
[22:47] <FunnyLookinHat> mehwork, Ah - well I would think the PPA would work either way...
[22:49] <qdbus> join/quit flash mob?
[22:49] <iceroot> what is the common way to remove all gnome-packages from 11.04 and have a clean lubuntu-desktop?
[22:50] <fffff> qdbus - maybe. and me with a question in the midst of the mess :)
[22:50] <iceroot> so i need to remove everything which ubuntu-desktop is pulling
[22:50] <zykotick9> !purelxde | iceroot
[22:50] <atoi> What should I use for sftp client on ubuntu lucid?
[22:50] <StepNjump> szal how do I install smartctl?
[22:51] <climbe2> lartza and dr-willis: much appreciative of your help...problems fixed
[22:51] <szal> StepNjump: smartmontools is the pkg name
[22:51] <zykotick9> atoi, gftp or filezilla are two options
[22:51] <st47>  /usr/bin/sftp?
[22:51] <iceroot> zykotick9: ah thank you i was searching in !purdekde and there is no 11.04
[22:51] <atoi> should have mentioned: looking for command line sftp client.
[22:51] <iceroot> atoi: sftp
[22:51] <mehwork> FunnyLookinHat: worked beautifully thanks
[22:51] <FunnyLookinHat> mehwork, for sure
[22:52] <atoi> Oh, what the hell... it's already installed.
[22:52] <st47> of course it is
[22:52] <atoi> What package is it part of? I did an aptitude search on "sftp" and it didn't turn up.
[22:52] <zelozelos_> i was wondering, since blender 2.49b uses python 2.5 it says its "unsatisfiable" is ther any way around? can i install 2.5 w/o messing up anything?
[22:52] <manlymatt83> I added a "deb" and "deb src" to my natty install that pointed to a karmic repository for a specific version of a piece of software (389, specifically).  I then did apt-get update and then installed about 6-7 packages from the ppa URL.  Everything seems to work fine... is this an acceptable practice?  Or could the karmic install have messed with something on my natty setup now?
[22:52] <climbe2> dr_willis, thanks for your help...after 8 hours of searching and trying, problem is fixed... much appreciative
[22:52] <StepNjump> ok szal let me give it a try. thanks
[22:52] <climbe2> thanks everyone else as well
[22:53] <kichawa> new mysql serv in ubu lte
[22:54] <exutux> atoi: it's part of openssh-client,  dpkg -S sftp says that
[22:55] <exutux> openssh-server: /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[22:55] <exutux> openssh-client: /usr/bin/sftp
[22:55] <atoi> ah.
[22:56] <atoi> thanks exutux
[22:56] <exutux> it doesn't metter
[22:57] <slicslak> what's up with links on google to ubuntuforums these days?  I get the "You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page." error
[22:57] <szal> depends on the link, I guess
[22:57] <terry> slicslak: Exactly what links?  Show us one.
[22:58] <exutux> matter* :p
[22:58] <qin> slicslak: Same here, got idea that meybe there was clean up in forums, happens only via search engine.
[22:59] <nit-wit> slicslak, because of complaints that some are old there is a new protocol
[22:59] <szal> slicslak, qin: example of a link please
[23:00] <qin> szal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455644
[23:00] <slicslak> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ubuntu+some+question+here first link is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219913
[23:00] <nit-wit> slicslak,  szal http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1807689
[23:00] <szal> qin: old thread moved to archive
[23:01] <szal> slicslak: same for your link
[23:01] <slicslak> so the googles is outdated then
[23:01] <slicslak> annoying.  it's been happening quite a lot for me lately
[23:01] <qin> slicslak: Neat!
[23:02] <szal> slicslak: "The Archives have been restricted to logged in users because we had complaints that old fixes from old threads were breaking user systems."
[23:02] <slicslak> lol
[23:02] <slicslak> s'pose that makes sense
[23:03] <szal> nit-wit: thx for the pointer
[23:03] <nit-wit> szal, no problem I had read it yesterday.;)
[23:04] <joshlegs> hey all
[23:06] <under> Hi all. I cannot understand why I have not the permission to write: http://pastebin.com/5dZxeQRd
[23:07] <szal> under: because root is not the owner of the file, and the permission for "other" is set to read only
[23:07] <webad_13> I have a computer on 11.04 that randomly freezes - when this happens while playing a movie it loops the last 1-2 secs of sound. I cannot move mouse or give any commands using a keyboard - computer is totally dead and I can only turn it off by holding the power button. It is using unity and has nvidia - and I did try upgrading to a newer kernel (39) but same problem
[23:08] <bl4ckcomb`> under, chmod a+w or chown root the file
[23:08] <klay> hi guys.
[23:08] <klay> i have this hella problem... got a new foxcon am3 board
[23:08] <sw0rdfish> guys a download through sftp terminal is frozen, saying "stalled"
[23:08] <sw0rdfish> what can I do to resume it :)
[23:08] <szal> webad_13: smells like a hardware issue
[23:09] <klay> and my usb wifi linksys dongle that works on my #! 9.4 will not work on lubuntu 1o.1o
[23:10] <under> szal, bl4ckcomb that directory was created from this pc (ubuntu) via shares-admin and I gave the permission to write
[23:10] <szal> under: to your normal user, yes
[23:10] <webad_13> szal: hmmm, I am afraid of that too - graphics had an issue before and was "fixed"... processor was potentially damaged during some overclocking... there is a lot of material for hardware issues to be honest. I just googled a bit and I saw that quite some people had problems with 11.04 random freezes
[23:11] <klay> wusb54gc
[23:11] <webad_13> szal: would the crash be logged someplace in /var/log ?
[23:12] <under> szal, so, how can I write?
[23:12] <qin> under: What shares?
[23:12] <szal> webad_13: most probably not..  you could boot a live CD after a crash & see if some log has anything (logs are usually re-created after reboot)
[23:13] <under> qin, shares-admin
[23:14] <coz_> webad_13,  you could check  /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any errors reported however  ,, ongoing errors ,,
[23:14] <qin> under: You mean smb sshfs nfs? Both machines linux? Using root on shares is quite strange.
[23:15] <szal> coz_, webad_13: for the previous X session there is /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[23:15] <coz_> szal,  this is true  ..yes
[23:16] <under> qin, http://goo.gl/ZoVnq, yes, the server is ubuntu, the client is a dreambox, a sat decoder
[23:19] <qin> under: Need some reading, cool hardware, this dreambox.
[23:20] <your_mum> hh
[23:20] <iceroot> is there something like "nm-applet" for lxde?
[23:20] <aa555> nit-wit: you there? im on the live cd, im issuing the command in grub: find /boot/grub/stage1  but it cant find it
[23:21] <coz_> iceroot,  mm not sure,, did you check in #lxde channel?
[23:21] <cook1es_> How can I continue using the Terminal after using sudo gkedit?
[23:21] <Corey> cook1es_: &
[23:22] <iceroot> coz_: i will have a look, mainchannel doesnt seem to be on freenode
[23:22] <dr_willis> iceroot:  i thought lubuntu/lxde used the gnome network manager applet..
[23:22] <Corey> cook1es_: Alternately, ctrl z, then bg <enter>
[23:22] <coz_> dr_willis,  ah  yes I forgot about lubuntu :)
[23:22] <dr_willis> cook1es_:  'gksudo gedit &'
[23:22] <iceroot> dr_willis: if i am correct its using wicd instead of network-manager and nm-applet is only working with network-manager
[23:23] <nit-wit> aa555,
[23:23] <nit-wit> I'm here
[23:23] <dr_willis> iceroot:  i dident notice it using wicd on this pc last week..  but ive reinstalled since then. so dont have lubuntu here any more
[23:23] <aa555> I don't know what to do nit-wit it can't find the stage1 file
[23:23] <dr_willis> You can install the normal network manager and it should work id imagine if it is using wicd
[23:23] <dr_willis> brb
[23:24] <nit-wit> aa555, follow this link. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy%20LiveCD%20Files
[23:24] <iceroot> dr_willis: i was wiping out everything from ubuntu-desktop and installing lubuntu-desktop and there is no networki-manager. but if it is possible to use network manager with nm-applet i will use that because there is nothing better then nm-applet
[23:24] <nit-wit> aa555, this is for grub2
[23:24] <aa555> nit-wit: ok
[23:24] <ping-77-linux-fs> ciao
[23:25] <nit-wit> aa555, the link defaults to reloading grub2 from the live cd, just the fdisk comand to identify the partition then the next to commands then reboot
[23:25] <iceroot> dr_willis: ajh network-managewr is still there, just nm-applet has gone
[23:25] <nit-wit> *to=twoP
[23:26] <cook1es_> dr_willis, corey, lol: http://localhostr.com/files/RzxO8fH/capture.png
[23:27] <Lewoco> How do I disable startup nofication?
[23:27] <pc500> How does ifconfig choose adapter names?  Is there a limit of 12 adapters?
[23:27] <pc500> I've noticed that after 12, I start getting some funky names -- ie: eth6-eth4 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:80:c8:3a:95:e8
[23:28] <iceroot> dr_willis: i was wiping out everything from ubuntu-desktop and installing lubuntu-desktop and there is no networki-manager. but if it is possible to use network manager with nm-applet i will use that because there is nothing better then nm-applet2 to or something similiar to change volumen-control and see new mails on lxde?
[23:28] <nit-wit> Lewoco, you want specific things right?
[23:28] <Lewoco> nit-wit, No, I want to totally disable it.
[23:28] <enigmus> What does ATTRS{id} match in udev .rules? Does it match the vendor:device pair given by lsubs?
[23:28] <iceroot> pc500: ifconfig is not choosing the names, its udev. there is no limit
[23:28] <aa555> nit-wit: how do i know if i have a separate boot partition?
[23:28] <user_> pratchett.freenode.net: Yo soy kampeon del mundo de kung fu, de un golpe seko en la kabeza te saco el cerebro por la ventana.
[23:28] <user_> aa555: Kita la negrita o te aplikamos la eutanasia por ke tu vida es una mierda.
[23:29] <qin> under: Since you will use nfs, you would look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo , not sure is your uid problem produced by admin-shares
[23:29] <user_> qin: Estaria bien ke te follan el culo?
[23:29] <pc500> iceroot:  - Any reason why udev decided to use a name like "eth6-eth4"?
[23:29] <user_> pc500: Tu estas en los semaforos, estas grabado en video.
[23:29] <qin> user_: Sure.
[23:29] <user_> qin: Estoy aki kon tu puta madre al movil y me piro.
[23:29] <szal> !es | user_
[23:29] <user_> szal: Yo soy ario y yo te lo comas.
[23:29] <user_> ubottu: Tu estas en estado terminal.
[23:29] <user_> ubottu: Relaja las nalgas mientras te muerdo el kuello.
[23:29] <user_> ubottu: Eres un puto frakasado de la constitucion pone ke todo fornido ario mazado tiene derecho a internet?
[23:29] <user_> ubottu: Te reto a un negro para ke konozkas a mi kasa a hacer una orgia.
[23:29] <user_> ubottu: Ya es la hora, tus kuidadores estan empalmados esperando a romperte la kara a patadas.
[23:29] <FloodBot1> user_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:29] <user_> ubottu: Estamos rekogiendo firmas para ke los seres superiores como yo te vamos a castrar.
[23:29] <user_> FloodBot1: Estas aki para vejarte cuando nos aburrimos.
[23:29] <user_> ubottu: Esta tarde vas a comer mi mierda aria, no te baneo.
[23:29] <aa555> lmao
[23:29] <szal> !ops
[23:29] <nit-wit> aa555, the windows 7 probably installed a bootmanager, but grub will see it.
[23:29] <nit-wit> aa555, a W& boot partition
[23:30] <nit-wit> W7
[23:30] <pc500> trying to get the bot kicked?
[23:30] <aa555> nit-wit: Example: sudo mount /dev/sda1 Note: If the user has a separate /boot partition, this must be mounted to /mnt/boot
[23:31] <Belboz999> questions such as "what is the package called?"  or, "what is the driver called?" remain unanswered by this large block of techical gibberish
[23:31] <nit-wit> aa555, you are reloading grub to the mbr, if you did not make a boot partition for ubuntu you don't have one.
[23:31] <aa555> k
[23:31] <Corey> Belboz999: I'm sorry?
[23:31] <nit-wit> aa555, notice that where the link defaults has 3 methods only use the first.
[23:32] <Belboz999> Corey: I'm trying to install the latest open source ATI / AMD video drivers on Ubuntu 11.04, but I can't find any basic step by step information on how to go about that
[23:32] <under> bl4ckcomb`, chmod: .: Operation not permitted
[23:32] <Corey> Belboz999: Aren't there stable versions in the repositories?
[23:33] <bl4ckcomb`> under, demand it
[23:33] <Belboz999> the community documentation states what the newer driver is based on, what latest cards it supports, but not what it's actually called
[23:33] <bl4ckcomb`> -> sudo
[23:33] <Belboz999> the stable drivers don't have as much 3D support, as stated elsewhere in that documentation
[23:33] <under> bl4ckcomb, the server is ubuntu, the client not
[23:33] <Belboz999> of course, that could be a misnomer as well, I have no idea what's what at this point
[23:34] <Belboz999> Corey: ^^^
[23:34] <qin> under: I think NC10 is owned by 1000
[23:34] <pc500> iick, udev is making a mess of device names:
[23:34] <pc500> [   16.182353] <30>udev[368]: renamed network interface eth11 to eth11-eth7
[23:34] <pc500> [   16.371957] <30>udev[370]: renamed network interface eth7 to eth7-eth5
[23:34] <pc500>
[23:35] <pc500> Isn't it supposed to go back and "clean up" the names to their final name?
[23:35] <bl4ckcomb`> under, how is that related?
[23:35] <Belboz999> Corey: I just got a brand new Radeon HD6770 (Juniper) and would simply like to install the latest driver with the best 3D support
[23:35] <pc500> It's just leaving them at the "ethx-ethx" name, which looks like a temporary holding name to me due to the real name being in use.
[23:36] <under> ok bl4ckcomb qin , was enough to give chmod 777 from server, thanks
[23:36] <qin> under: sudo touch /home/giuseppe/DreamBox/test2
[23:37] <aa555> nit-wit: so im finished after this command? sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sdX
[23:37] <qin> under: Ah, you on client...
[23:38] <under> also yes :)
[23:38] <nit-wit> aa555, you realize that the X=the HD for example sda if fdisk shows that
[23:39] <aa555> nit-wit: yes im not that dumb
[23:39] <nit-wit> aa555, if you ran ethier command with the X it is wrong
[23:39] <nit-wit> cool
[23:39] <aa555> nit-wit: it is hanging...forever though it seems: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[23:39] <nit-wit> reboot and run a grub-upadte in ubuntu.
[23:39] <szal> nit-wit: update-grub
[23:40] <aa555> nit-wit: the ubuntu on my HD? i cant get to that ubuntu
[23:40] <nit-wit> aa555, you had run other things before asking for help was and partition mounted?
[23:40] <aa555> yes
[23:40] <aa555> i mounted
[23:40] <nit-wit> aa555, run the script and paste the text in a pastebin.   http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[23:41] <nit-wit> *this
[23:41] <aa555> nit-wit: it moved: Installing GRUB to /dev/sda as (hd0)...
[23:41] <aa555> installation finishished nit-wit no error reported: (fd0)    /dev/fd0 (hd0)    /dev/sda
[23:42] <nit-wit> aa555, If it has not workwed run the script I poated and pastebin the texy file generated
[23:42] <nit-wit> wored poated
[23:42] <aa555> ok so i should be able to reboot and get to the boot menu?
[23:43] <nit-wit> worked posted doh
[23:43] <aa555> and pick my beloved ubuntu
[23:43] <nit-wit> aa555, hopefully.;)
[23:43] <aa555> nit-wit: k will report
[23:43] <nit-wit> cool
[23:44] <lwizardl> hi
[23:45] <lwizardl> whats a good application to record your screencasts with audio
[23:45] <lwizardl> ?
[23:45] <valdergallo> Hi, im have problems to install empathy on ubuntu 64 :(
[23:45] <valdergallo> Anyone, can help me ?
[23:46] <zykotick9> valdergallo, isn't empathy installed by default?  "sudo apt-get install empathy" help?  are you trying to get a newer version?
[23:46] <valdergallo> zykotick9, yeap ... check this
[23:48] <zykotick9> valdergallo, i don't appreciate PMs with pastes, someone else can help you.
[23:49] <goodtime> yeah couldnt you just use pastebin?
[23:50] <zykotick9> valdergallo, also there is some method to use "C" or "c" to get output in english
[23:50] <Belboz999> anyone have any ideas on this?
[23:50] <Belboz999> xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd : Depends: xorg-video-abi-9.0 but it is not installable
[23:50] <goodtime> hmm intresting
[23:51] <goodtime> idk
[23:52] <Belboz999> I've tried sudo apt-get -f install, apt-get update, as well as sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:53] <Belboz999> I think I'll just reboot it, I purged a few older drivers, might still be lurking in RAM or cache somewhere
[23:54] <bkerensa> Does anyone know how to fix my update manager it keeps saying I haven't checked for updates in 7 days and yet I check daily
[23:55] <ssfdre38> hey where are the Xchat source files at?
[23:55] <goodtime> i hate xchat lol
[23:55] <ssfdre38> well
[23:55] <goodtime> i should give bitchx a try
[23:56] <goodtime> i used it years ago
[23:56] <nit-wit> we all so wanted to knlw that goodtime
[23:58] <bkerensa> Does anyone know how to fix my update manager it keeps saying I haven't checked for updates in 7 days and yet I check daily?
[23:58] <phlux> indeed. I don't know what I would have done with myself had I not heard goodtime's displeasure with a piece of software, and lack of evidence to support his opinion and why it is relevant.
[23:59] <aa555> nit-wit: i rebooted and it went straight to the grub command line, didnt know what to do
[23:59] <goodtime> true
[23:59] <nit-wit> aa555, lets see the bootscript run.   http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/  pastebin the generated text.


[00:35] <brousch> grrrr, too many ittle annoyances with osx python
[00:35] <brousch> time to pull out the ubuntu laptop
[02:53] <Dekkard2> anyone actually using unity?
[03:28] <greg-g> well, I would have said I am
[03:28] <greg-g> though, I did just talk to a Math PhD student who is switching to KDE when he upgrades to 11.04
[04:06] <snap-l> I am on a laptop
[04:06] <snap-l> though that's not 100%
[04:07] <snap-l> And I think we're just talking amongst ourselves.
[04:09] <greg-g> indeed
[14:41] <snap-l> Good morning
[14:55] <jcastro> rick_h_: man, having a massive die off in my tank
[14:55] <jcastro> only the tough tetras remain
[14:55] <snap-l> What's dying off?
[14:56] <snap-l> (I mean, what sort of fish?)
[14:56] <jcastro> the non tough ones
[14:56] <snap-l> Well, no shit. :)
[14:57] <jcastro> it all started when one of them got stuck in the filter
[14:57] <jcastro> and I didn't notice it
[14:57] <jcastro> and it was dead
[14:57] <jcastro> feeding death and ammonia throughout the whole tank
[14:57] <jcastro> and then my bottom feeders died
[14:57] <snap-l> Oh, not good.
[14:57] <jcastro> but I didn't notice the dead body of the one in the filter
[14:57] <jcastro> so I've been doing water changes, etc.
[14:57] <jcastro> one of them was bloated and not looking so hot today
[14:57] <jcastro> so I had to commit murder
[15:04] <greg-g> :(
[15:06] <_stink_> you are a ruthless god of the fish tank.
[15:06] <jcastro> he had something contagious
[15:06] <jcastro> he had to go
[15:06] <jcastro> :(
[15:06] <greg-g> sucky
[16:25] <snap-l> Man, I am out of shape
[16:25] <snap-l> Mowed the back yard, and winded myself
[16:25] <snap-l> Not good
[16:25] <snap-l> jcastro: Can totally relate
[16:26] <snap-l> http://decafbad.net/category/fish/
[17:14] <snap-l> http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2qlLD0/www.simplimg.com/product_images/obejection.jpg
[17:22] <rick_h_> jcastro: ouch, doesn't sound good
[17:22] <rick_h_> sometimes I think the little planet needs to go through an cleansing I guess
[17:22] <rick_h_> hopefully not too much $$ in the inhabitants
[18:17] <TeamXlink> I've gotten a 2.8 GHZ Pentium 4, It supports HyperThreading, but I've read that most games don't benefit from it, because there not coded to use it, So I've disabled it, however, in the bios it reports it as 1.4 GHZ, but the OS reports it as 2.8 GHZ.
[18:18] <TeamXlink> Seeing as 1.4 GHZ is half of 2.8GHZ I think this might have something to do with HyperThreading.
[19:56] <TeamXlink> Thoughts?
[20:53] <snap-l> TeamXlink: Why did you decide to turn off Hyperthreading?
[20:53] <snap-l> I don't think there's any harm in turning it on
[21:23] <TeamXlink> I've turned it off because it hurts performance in the games I play most.
[21:41] <snap-l> Which games?
[21:45] <TeamXlink> Mainly Quakeworld and Warsow.
[21:54] <snap-l> What does it do to the performance of those games?
[22:10] <TeamXlink> It lowers the performance.
[22:10] <TeamXlink> EDIT:
[22:10] <TeamXlink> It lowers the FPS.
[22:53] <snap-l> Are you sure it's not a problem with your video card not being able to keep up?
[23:32] <snap-l> Wow, I'm amazed at how much detail is in this recording from 1959
[23:33] <snap-l> Yeah, I know that the analog technology was refined more than improved, but still
[23:33] <snap-l> remarkable.


[03:52] <Guest87962> ihello
[03:54] <Guest87962> i recently installed kubuntu 15.10 on my system and the sound system is not working on it..? any help..?
[03:54] <Guest87962> videos are not playing on the dragon player as welll...
[04:13] <shurtagul> why is there wine, wine1.4, and wine1.6 all in the repository?
[04:17] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[04:17] <silv3r_m00n> hi there, suddenly a problem, when i login to plasma desktop the windows dont have any title bar, no background wallpaper and no bottom panel visible
[04:20] <silv3r_m00n> how to fix this
[06:22] <elevenTwelve> helloooo
[06:24] <elevenTwelve> anybody have a suggestion for a channel for java topic?
[06:28] <strayPuppy> ##java
[06:56] <pontoffeltier> hi there
[06:57] <pontoffeltier> anyone here?
[07:00] <dahlia> hi, how come when I install wine it uninstalles kde? is there any way to get it back?
[07:25] <hateball> dahlia: That sounds strange. What version of Kubuntu are you on, and how are you installing Wine?
[07:35] <dahlia> hateball: kubuntu 15.10 amd64, wine 1.6 from aptitude
[07:35] <hateball> hmmm, I am not on 15.10 right now so I cant check
[07:35] <hateball> dahlia: any reason for using 1.6 instead of 1.7?
[07:36] <dahlia> I didnt see 1.7
[07:36] <hateball> hmmm, maybe I am mistaken... but I thought 1.7 would be there by now
[07:36] <hateball> I am on 14.04 on this machine so I cant verify
[07:37] <hateball> seems it is indeed not
[07:40] <dahlia> I've had this problem before on 14.04 with other packages... I think it may have something to do with doing a dist-upgrade
[07:41] <dahlia> try to install something simple and it wants to uninstall all of kde
[07:41] <hateball> Do you have any other repos outside the official ones?
[07:42] <dahlia> probably, like the one for nvidia drivers
[07:42] <hateball> I always dist-upgrade and there's not been an issue with Wine at least... Altho I havent been using it on 15.10. My 14.04 behaves as expected.
[07:42] <hateball> dahlia: could you pastebin what it looks like when you try installing wine?
[07:43] <dahlia> too late, I reinstalled kubuntu
[07:43] <hateball> heh
[07:43] <dahlia> fortunately it was a new install
[07:44] <dahlia> I vaguely remember fixing it on old install by reinstalling kde-plasma-desktop
[08:28] <dahlia> is there a way to make sure gnome apps pick up the color scheme I set in system settings?
[08:31] <dahlia> never mind I found it
[08:32] <jsonify> hello
[08:32] <jsonify> does anyone in here use Eclipse?
[08:40] <hateball> jsonify: Are you taking a poll or do you have an actual question
[08:47] <jsonify> @hateball, i was going to ask a question, but I figured it out
[08:49] <jsonify> i just want to say that I think Kubuntu is beautiful
[08:52] <hateball> :)
[09:08] <Yossarianuk> I have to say since upgrading to 15.10 on my work PC, now that the slow login is fixed seems really nice - I used to have an issue when I came in the morning the machine was really sluggish initally - that seems completely cured now.
[09:08] <Yossarianuk> so thanks everybody !
[09:09] <Yossarianuk> <<< happy camper
[09:10] <dahlia> Is there a hidden super-sekrit document somewhere which tells how to get samba working? o.0
[09:11] <hateball> !samba
[09:11] <dahlia> ty
[09:11] <dahlia> all google had to say didnt work for me :(
[09:12] <hateball> Personally I'd just upgrade any and all machines to Linux and use NFS over the headache that is SMB
[09:13] <dahlia> not an option :P
[09:13] <dahlia> and nfs is ancient
[09:19] <dahlia> those documents dont seem to match the files that kubuntu installed. They mention config variables that dont exist in the supplied configs
[09:25] <Yossarianuk> dahlia: generally 'super secret documents'  only exist for closed source stuff...
[09:26] <Yossarianuk> dahlia: nfs is 'ancient' but its also pretty reliable - nfs4 is newer...
[09:26] <dahlia> Yossarianuk: I mean the documents that work. The stuff I find with google are ancient blog posts or forum posts
[09:26] <dahlia> Yossarianuk: using nfs is not an option thank you
[09:27] <dahlia> and have you ever had your nfs client lock up when the nfs server goes down? I have many times and it's NOT fun
[09:30] <Yossarianuk> dahlia: not in the last 5 odd years no. isn't that related to using async ?
[09:31] <Yossarianuk> I tend to use glusterfs not network shares now (geo-replicated)
[09:31] <Yossarianuk> *now*
[09:36] <Smurphy> dahlia: Tell NFS to use udp. It won't lock up the machine.
[09:37] <dahlia> thank you everyone who is telling me how to use nfs. However, I'm trying to share with *windows* machines.
[09:40] <hateball> dahlia: use webdav perhaps?
[09:40] <dahlia> whats that?
[09:40] <hateball> anything that isnt SMB is less painful :p
[09:41] <hateball> dahlia: sharing files over http
[09:41] <dahlia> no thanks
[09:42] <dahlia> if smb doesnt work on 15.10, just tell me
[09:43] <Yossarianuk> dahlia: ah sorry you hadn't said you needed windows to connect..
[09:43] <dahlia> OK I have another question. How do I stop the screen from blanking? I dont see any screensaver listed on the system settings
[09:44] <dahlia> I got it to stop locking but it still blanks after maybe 10ish minutes
[09:45] <dahlia> nvm found it in power management
[10:08] <xela2244> hi, is there a safe way to install gnome on kubuntu 15.10?
[10:12] <dahlia> I thought there was a way you could have both and select the one you wanted on the login screen but I dont remember how. It might be apt-get install gnome-desktop but dont blame me if it breaks :)
[10:13] <xela2244> dahlia you can install it. But gnome and kde don't really work together
[10:14] <dahlia> xela2244: ya you have to pick one at login
[10:14] <dahlia> but I think gnome apps run in kde
[10:14] <dahlia> like right now I have gnome-clocks running in kde
[10:16] <xela2244> ok thanks
[12:43] <kaddi> hi, i kep getting disconnected from irc on konversation but the connection with quassel is stable
[12:44] <kaddi> is there a way to fix it so that i can use konversation?
[12:44] <rvk> hi
[12:44] <rvk> hz
[12:44] <rvk> хз
[12:45] <kaddi> hi
[15:10] <Roey> hi
[15:10] <Roey> something is weirding out on my system and it looks like shift keys / alt keys keep getting turned on rapidly
[15:10] <Roey> and also clicks
[15:10] <Roey> I tried monitoring with xev but I don't see naything
[15:14] <orlandoj> hi everyone, how can someone help me to get the "at" kubuntu 15
[15:15] <soee_> ?
[15:15] <soee_> orlandoj: can you be more specific ?
[15:18] <marco-parillo> Is at (http://linux.die.net/man/1/at) not installed? So at -V returns bash: at: command not found ?
[15:18] <orlandoj> I am a new user and I've just installed the last version but I can get the "at"  altGR+2 does not work for me
[15:19] <orlandoj> I have kubuntu 15.04
[15:20] <marco-parillo> What keyboard mapping? Sorry, I have a 'native' @ in en_US.
[15:22] <orlandoj> I am in Belgium, so im using the belgian keyboard
[15:29] <orlandoj> is there an easy way to get the @ ?
[15:30] <marco-parillo> Sorry, I cannot help; maybe somebody from Europe without that character can.
[15:32] <orlandoj> ok thanks anyway
[15:37] <Simonious> What is are PPA and aptitude?
[15:38] <Simonious> Lets try that again: What are PPA and aptitude?
[15:44] <Smurphy> Simonious: PPA is a repository, and aptitude is an add-on to apt-get
[15:56] <marco-parillo> PPAs are great way of easily adding software. Sometimes newer versions than exist in the official repositories, sometimes things that never get there. The nice thing about adding a PPA (rather than installing a .deb) is that you receive updates to the PPA automagically.
[15:57] <marco-parillo> That said, some PPAs are explicitly for helping folks test things BEFORE they are fully baked, so they can affect your system.
[16:12] <hay207> hi guys, how much time pbuilder takes when creating a distro release environment? is it downloading the release, cause my download net graph monitor isnot showing / being at max speed..
[16:12] <Pici> hay207: I'd be concerned if it took longer than 20 minutes
[16:13] <hay207> ok thanks
[16:22] <hay207> is it downloading the release, or what is it doing, last line is : Retrieving Release.gpg,, almost now took 18 minutes .
[16:24] <hay207> i'm taking about pbuilder
[16:34] <hay207> nvm, it works now, after retyping command
[17:15] <robotdevil1> is there a way to select things from the system tray without a mouse?
[19:41] <melray> Need help on how to do this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13250013/
[19:48] <melray> Nevermind I got is solved...
[21:30] <josi> Is there an issue with kaddressbook in 15.10? I can't seem to get carddav contacts to show up anymore.
[21:33] <genii> josi: I do see a bug reported to KDE, but not sure if it applies to your specific setup https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kdepim-bugs/2014-June/094367.html
[21:41] <hay207> hi guys, when decrypting my pgp email , after copying it to a text file, i receive: gpg: decrypt_message failed: file open error
[21:41] <hay207> typing this command: gpg -d pgp.txt
[21:45] <bprompt> hay207:    shouldn't the email app manage the decrypting?
[21:46] <hay207> ok, i m trying the terminal
[21:46] <bprompt> josi:    dunno, I don't run 15.10 myself, I use 12.04 :)
[21:47] <bprompt> hay207:    dunno.... I'd say offhand, check the .txt for any characters that aren't expected by gpg to decrypt it, like non-printable characters before/after the encrypted block
[21:48] <josi> well I like messing around with the newest of the kdes . though only on my laptop hehe
[21:54] <bprompt> josi:    well, you're "messing around" it very well I notice, so... success!
[21:54] <bprompt> hehe
[21:58] <josi> yeah, I'm trying to figure out if there's a bug somewhere with my issue
[21:59] <josi> I haven't found much useful debug information yet
[22:02] <bprompt> josi:    I've had issues before with the contacts or addressbook or the organizer, they all seem to use the same libs, and the issue IIRC had to do with the Akonadi database, was corrupted or something, I recall that just going to ~/.kde/share/config and removing the akonady configuration files, would rejog it in and the calendar and addressbook will launch
[22:05] <josi> how strange . I can add contacs and they appear on the server correctl and I can see the them in kaddressbook. but those that already are on the server are invisible
[22:05] <josi> yeah maybe an akonadi wipe helps
[22:05] <bprompt> josi:   bear in mind that, the data is maintained by the akonadi database and managed by the running daemon, thus
[22:06] <josi> log out and delete, log back in?
[22:07] <bprompt> josi:    don't have to, I did it right on the session, and worked
[22:15] <josi> nope seems getting rid of akonadi didn't help
[22:17] <bprompt> josi:     what if you run kaddressbook at the command line?  so it shows a more verbose session, and then try to run carddav(whatever that is), the terminal messages would show why it may not be launching
[22:18] <bprompt> josi:    also... hmmm wondering if you deleted those files while the services were running, and you may not have deleted them all
[22:22] <tytan> Hello, everyone. How can I set the menu to look like in openSUSE 42.1? It's more like a classic layout which I prefer :)
[22:28] <keithzg> tytan: I think they use a different menu widget entirely? Although if you merely want "classic", you can just right-click on the menu button, choose "Alternatives...", and then choose "Application Menu".
[22:29] <denza242> hmm, kickoff right?
[22:29] <tytan> keithzg: Thank you very much. Have you seen their menu?
[22:29] <denza242> i think Netrunner has it
[22:30] <tytan> The same as openSUSE leap?
[22:30] <denza242> tytan: possibly
[22:31] <denza242> hmm, there aren't any screenshots with the menu on the netrunner site
[22:31] <denza242> however, I'm sure there's a video or two floating around
[22:31] <denza242> in any case, that style menu is, as keithzg said, the "Application Menu"
[22:32] <tytan> Meow :)
[22:32] <tytan> Kubuntu 15.10 works pretty nice btw (If a dev is reading)
[22:33] <keithzg> Aha, looking at http://opensuse-guide.org/kde.php it looks like it's just the standard "Application Menu" widget these days. I seem to remember back in the KDE 4 days OpenSUSE had their own menu widget they were using, which is what I was vaguely assuming here.
[22:34] <tytan> I'm reading ...
[22:35]  * keithzg kindof misses Lancelot Launcher, but frankly launches apps pretty much exclusively from KRunner or a terminal anyways, heh.
[22:37] <tytan> amazing (=
[22:45] <josi> well I did a find "akonadi*" kmail korganiser kaddressbook while I was only logged in the console . and the issue's still there.
[22:45] <josi> it's so wierd that adding and removing works fine
[22:45] <josi> just not showing contacts on the server .
[23:06] <robert13> list
[23:07] <robert13> exit
[23:07] <bprompt> robert13:  get tomatoes, lemons, avocadoes, onions, chilli powder, and don't forget the milk
[23:07] <bprompt> guess he didn't want the list :P
[23:09]  * genii slides bprompt a fresh coffee
[23:10] <bprompt> after a get the milk, I'd make some Cafe Au Lait =)
[23:47] <Hudsonkem> mysqld why its running? wht use it?
[23:52] <bprompt> hmm
[23:55] <bprompt> Hudsonkem:    run "lsof" on the process,    get the mysqld process ID with ps -ax, and then use it with lsof ->   lsof -p PIDHERE
[23:56] <bprompt> Hudsonkem:   other than that, you can always turn it off from System Settings > startup and shutdown