[00:00] <coventry`> It was just a bash/supervisor syntax difference.  Different environments. :-)
[00:02] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  Ok, done.
[00:02] <bloopletech> I'm trying to upgrade 13.04 to 13.10, and do-release-upgrade says there is no newer version. /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades already has Prompt=normal
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> demophobia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Package_Dependencies a dependency is a require prerequisite in order for the software to work. a recommend is not required for it to work but may add extra functionality
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: so do you get the launcher now when logging in?
[00:03] <k1l> bloopletech: what does "lsb_release -a" give you?
[00:03] <k1l> bloopletech: and "uname -a"
[00:03] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  Yes.  I do.
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: sweet. now for cuda is there a specific version you need that you were trying to install from nvidia site?
[00:05] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  Not that I'm aware of.
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: or is any version suitable?
[00:06] <Viking667> xilence: ... hullo?
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: what's the output of: cat /etc/issue
[00:07] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[00:08] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  GPU is GeForce GTX 770
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: ok. first thing. 13.04 support is ending withing the next 2 weeks. (not sure of the exact date). so you should consider updating to 13.10 as the repos will be no longer accessible after that.
[00:09] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: just gonna check what cuda is available from the repo. 2 secs
[00:10] <pnunn> hitsujiTMO: what's the command to do the dist-upgrade from the command line?  I need to depart. I'll be back later.
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> doh, wc
[00:12] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  E:  No packages found
[00:13] <freshmint> hey i have a bunch of AVI files created about 2 years back. now i encoded them and i like to associate the dates of the encoded files with the dates of the original AVI files
[00:14] <freshmint> any idea how to do this in bash. i already created a script for the encoding part . so i can easily use the basic structure of it for resetting the last modified dates
[00:16] <bloopletech> k1l: http://pastebin.com/cW9vVVZs
[00:16] <Gambit--> trism, that did it, thanks.
[00:17] <k1l> bloopletech: now please "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: ok both raring and saucy have 5.0. its in the package nvidia-cuda-toolkit ... I'd presume you need to install the nvidia driver too, since you're using a 770, maybe the nvidia-319 would be the best choice.                if you want a later version of cuda you will need to install from another source, but doing so is not straight forward as it seems the nvidia module and the cuda modules need to be compiled with 2 different versions
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> of gcc. hence why its recommended to use prepackaged versions
[00:18] <bloopletech> k1l: http://pastebin.com/k4C5WhCs (thanks for the help, btw)
[00:18] <freshmint> hmm probably stat and touch will do the job
[00:21] <k1l> bloopletech: hmm, looks good  so far. now do a "sudo do-release-upgrade" that should initiate the 13.10 upgrade
[00:21] <bloopletech> k1l: http://pastebin.com/0URahMsy :(
[00:22] <bloopletech> Could it be the mirror I'm using or something? I'm using the aarnet Australia mirrors
[00:22] <thom_r> Flash will stop working this April in Chromium. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/01/chromium-npapi-flash-dropped-april-2014
[00:22] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  I'm fine with an older version of CUDA.  I remember the NVIDIA*.run file that I downloaded required gcc 4.2 (which was horribly difficult to track down for my OS).
[00:22] <k1l> bloopletech: hmm, maybe the servers have a problem. go to the systemsettings and then to updates etc and then switch servers to the main-server
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: ok, then give nvidia-cuda-toolkit a shot and good luck. there may be someone else here who has used it who might be able to give you further pointers
[00:24] <Magiobiwan> Quick Question: How do I get back to the "GUI" Virtual Console on the Ubuntu Server 13.10 netinstall CD?
[00:24] <jim> hey RedDeath
[00:24] <jim> nice to see you again
[00:25] <Magiobiwan> I had to switch to console 4 to discover that it's actually eth0 plugged in on my server and not eth1
[00:25] <Magiobiwan> But Ctrl + Alt + F7 isn't doing anything
[00:25] <daftykins> Magiobiwan: alt+F7 or F8
[00:25] <daftykins> just go through all function keys
[00:25] <Al___> hitsujiTMO:  Alright.  Thank you.  Do you have a paypal account that I can dump about $10 into? (That should be enough to buy you some beer, or something)
[00:26] <bloopletech> k1l: do-release-upgrade -d seems to be working
[00:26] <Magiobiwan> I did find that Ctrl + Alt + F3 tells my laptop to "turn off external display" though
[00:26] <Magiobiwan> :P
[00:26] <hitsujiTMO> Al___: i don't. give it to charity instead
[00:26] <k1l> bloopletech: did you switch the servers?
[00:27] <Al___> Alright.    Ok.  Everything is up and running, now.
[00:30] <thom_r> dang it
[00:31]  * Magiobiwan tells Ubuntu to use eth0 instead of eth1
[00:33] <pkillpeers> hello guys. what do you think its the best? gufw or firestarter?
[00:33] <gordonjcp> pkillpeers: neither
[00:33] <gordonjcp> pkillpeers: are you running a server?
[00:34] <pkillpeers> no. desktop ubuntu for personal usage
[00:34] <gordonjcp> pkillpeers: if you're using a desktop machine, you're almost certainly behind NAT and a firewall is just going to make your life miserable
[00:34] <gordonjcp> there's no point in having a firewall on a desktop
[00:34] <pkillpeers> oh ok then :)
[00:35] <pkillpeers> thanks for the tip
[00:36] <gordonjcp> pkillpeers: if your modem plugs directly in and your desktop has a real live internet-facing IP address, then yes, you need a firewall
[00:36] <gordonjcp> you also need your head examined
[00:36] <daftykins> that is not your normal friendly tone, gordonjcp!
[00:36] <gordonjcp> daftykins: :-p
[00:37] <pkillpeers> nah im behind nat
[00:37] <Magiobiwan> Also eth0 is funky. What...
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> Magiobiwan: define "funky"
[00:39] <Magiobiwan> Apparently it doesn't work either
[00:39]  * Magiobiwan checks he typed in his IP Allocation properly
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> Magiobiwan: what chipset is it?
[00:40] <Magiobiwan> One moment while I yell at the IPMI
[00:41] <Magiobiwan> SuperMicro IPMI = horrible
[00:41] <Magiobiwan> Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection
[00:41] <xilence> @Viking667 my max res is 1024 x 768 in xrandr
[00:41] <virhilo> hi guys
[00:42] <xilence> hi
[00:42] <virhilo> i have some weird issue
[00:42] <virhilo> fresh install of 13.10
[00:42] <xilence> what's it?
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> Magiobiwan: what version?
[00:43] <Magiobiwan> hitsujiTMO, of Ubuntu? 13.10 server netinstall
[00:43] <virhilo> and nvidia drivers freezing after grub before asking for cryptsetup passphraze(just after loding initial ramdisk)
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> Magiobiwan: that should be covered ok by the e1000e driver in the kernel then. what oddities are you getting?
[00:44] <bloopletech> I'm a bit confused, I've got the upgrade notification for saucy to appear now, but it's saying it's a BETA release... saucy shipped a couple months ago didn't it?
[00:44] <virhilo> weird thing that enabling buildin graphics makes it work(sometimes, but allways in recovery mode)
[00:44] <virhilo> no clue how to debug this
[00:44] <psusi> bloopletech, yep, and raring is now end of life
[00:45] <bloopletech> psusi: yeah, that's why I'm upgrading... but wonder why I'm getting the BETA notice
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> bloopletech: did you pull the iso from?
[00:46] <Magiobiwan> I'm putting in my CIDR netmask and it's configuring it supposedly correctly
[00:46] <psusi> bloopletech, have you not run/updated the system in the last few months?
[00:46] <Magiobiwan> DHCP doesn't work
[00:46] <bloopletech> hitsujiTMO, sorry? I installed raring from an iso downloaded from ubuntu.com, I ran updates last this morning
[00:46] <virhilo> it even gets weirder, i installed the same ubuntu image on same machine 3 days ago and it worked perfectly(even played some games) then left it off for few days and got suprised with black screen, same as after fresh install now(windows 7 which i rarely use on that box work fine so no hardware issues)
[00:46] <bloopletech> I'm fairly sure it was the ordinary release iso, not a dev release
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> bloopletech: ahh sorry wrong person
[00:47] <bloopletech> ah no worries
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO> Magiobiwan: maybe this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1018561 ?
[00:47] <psusi> bloopletech, yes, but was that the first time you've updated since saucy was released?  if so it may have failed since raring is already end of life and so you're still running off outdated packages from when saucy was still in beta
[00:47] <Magiobiwan> hitsujiTMO, I ssupect I'm misconfiguring the network
[00:48] <bloopletech> psusi: nah, this is my daily machine so I run updates at least every few weeks
[00:48] <hitsujiTMO> Magiobiwan: ahh, that would make more sense considering that bug should be fixed in the kernel you are using
[00:48] <bloopletech> I can dump some sort of apt log or something to show
[00:49] <TJ->
[00:49] <bloopletech> tbh, if the message is just wrong and it's the normal saucy release then I don't mind ignoring it. Just want to make sure I'm not going to somehow upgrade to a prerelease version
[00:50] <PatrickDickey> Any ideas why GRUB (efi) would only "find" an older kernel for Fedora? I've got a triple boot (Windows 8, Ubuntu, and Fedora 19). GRUB only shows the 3.9.x kernel for Fedora, even though I have the 3.12.x kernels installed.
[00:51] <Magiobiwan> Ha
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> PatrickDickey: whats the output you're getting for: sudo op-prober
[00:52] <Magiobiwan> HA. EAT THAT NETINSTALL. It was configuring my network wrong
[00:52] <Magiobiwan> Manual Config FTW
[00:54] <TJ-> PatrickDickey: Because grub works on the kernel versions known to initramfs-tools via "/var/lib/initramfs-tools/" entries. To add 'foreign' kernels, you have to do something like "update-initramfs -c -k <foreign-kernel-version>" if I recall correctly
[00:55] <PatrickDickey> hitsujiTMO: I'm assuming you meant sudo os-prober, right?
[00:56] <hitsujiTMO> PatrickDickey: yes, yes i did. sorry for the typo
[00:56] <PatrickDickey> TJ-: Would initramfs-tools (in Trusty) know about the 3.12.x series kernels?
[00:57] <TJ-> PatrickDickey: I was playing with this stuff about a month ago, my memory is hazy now, but I dug into the code to figure it out when I had a trial of Trusty installed alongside my stable install (I use LVMs per rootfs, and a combined /boot/ partition
[00:58] <TeraJL> on ubuntu 12.04, when i put youtube videos in fullscreen 720p it get weird lines like some parts(pixels) are cut off or a little out of place, both on video and buttons and time number (chrome+flash)
[00:58] <PatrickDickey> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6747901 is the results of os-prober
[00:58] <bloopletech> TeraJL, you mean like the top part of the image is slightly to the left or right of the bottom part
[00:59] <bloopletech> and does it tend to happen on fast moving scenes and not slow ones?
[00:59] <psusi> bloopletech, message is just wrong, go ahead and upgrade
[00:59] <bloopletech> psusi: awesome, thanks :)
[00:59] <Magiobiwan> Is there ANY way to remove the LVM you create in the partitioning wizard?
[00:59] <psusi> Magiobiwan, what do you mean?
[01:00] <Magiobiwan> The guided partitioning didn't mak eit the way I needed it, and I can't remove it to do it again
[01:00] <psusi> Magiobiwan, how do you need it?  If you need it special you will need to start over and do manual partitioning
[01:00] <Magiobiwan> Wonderful
[01:01] <TeraJL> http://i.imgur.com/gtcAsVt.png where you can see some weird glitches, on windows it appeared just fine
[01:01] <TeraJL> 720p
[01:01]  * Magiobiwan prepares to murder the IPMI on his server
[01:02] <bloopletech> TeraJL, you mean the white bar in the 'Angry Joe' thingy at the bottom?
[01:03] <Magiobiwan> Maybe I can go back and do it again after it installs the base system...
[01:04] <psusi> Magiobiwan, how do you need it?  you need to start over and do manual if you need it special
[01:05] <TeraJL> bloopletech: you can see for exemple, the word "humble" as a cut on the M, the black bar on the bottom has some glitches, the video looks low quality, the 9 in "Number 9" is weird.. on the picture it doesn't seem much, but if you watch the video on lower size(same quality), or watch on windows(same quality and screen size), i don't get any of those glitches
[01:05] <Magiobiwan> I need 2GB /boot, 16GB swap (server will be used for hosting VMs), and 64GB /
[01:05] <Magiobiwan> Then the rest unconfigured LVM
[01:06] <psusi> Magiobiwan, what do you need a /boot for?
[01:06] <TeraJL> the glithes are always on the same places, it's like some lines that get distorted on the same place while on fullscreen
[01:06] <aFeijo> my sidebar/launcher sometimes (like now) lose all but 1 icon colors. Its all grayed and hard to see. How to fix this?
[01:06] <bloopletech> TeraJL, ok, sorry it's not the issue I thought it was. I'm not sure what it is, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a video driver issue
[01:06] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: Why 2GB for /boot/ ? Are you intending to keep all older kernel/initrd.img sets?
[01:06] <Magiobiwan> psusi, I might accidentally fill / with ISOs
[01:07] <psusi> Magiobiwan, what's that got to do with /boot?
[01:07] <Magiobiwan> TJ-, I'm going to be adding SystemRescueCD to the OS list in Grub
[01:07] <TeraJL>  bloopletech, i can play games just fine, and the screen looks perfect, even on videos on VLC(fullscreen)
[01:07] <Magiobiwan> And unpacking it to /boot
[01:07] <Magiobiwan> So if I ever NEED it, I don't have to murder IPMI several times
[01:07] <bloopletech> TeraJL, oh, I'm sure you can, but flash tends not to play very nicely with video drivers
[01:07] <psusi> Magiobiwan, once you set that up it shouldn't matter if you fill / later
[01:08] <bloopletech> like, I get vertical tearing, but only in flash and fullscreen, everything else is fine
[01:08] <TeraJL> on firefox seems better
[01:08] <bloopletech> hmm can you try opting into the html5 option on youtube? that might fix some of them anyway
[01:09] <psusi> Magiobiwan, I suggest forgoing /boot entirely, but yea, you will need to start over and set up lvm by hand before running the installer for what you want
[01:09] <psusi> and pick manual partitioning
[01:09] <closingin> hi all.
[01:09] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: I'd recommend you reduce rootfs to around 10G and use LVM, and have a 10G LV for /var/, a larger LV for /home/, and then another for /home/all/ where you can keep shared stuff like ISOs, and a separate VG for the Virtual machine images. I'd also recommend a RAID1 mirror set if this thing is vital.
[01:09] <Magiobiwan> I'd do RAID 1 if I had more than 1 drive in the server
[01:09] <psusi> TJ-, why a separate /var?
[01:10] <psusi> raid10 > raid1 ;)
[01:10] <Magiobiwan> As it is now I have a 1TB HD. I can't have a 2nd put in unless I want to pay another $20/mo
[01:10] <Magiobiwan> :(
[01:10]  * rootpt is back.
[01:10] <closingin> I installed ubuntu, but after boot, a "xrandr" tells me that : http://pastebin.com/SPRQp58v
[01:10] <closingin> By the way, i have hybrid amd/intel graphics.
[01:11] <closingin> ubuntu thinks i have two monitors, but i only have one !
[01:11] <Magiobiwan> So there's no way to go back to partitioning?
[01:11] <closingin> Can someone help me with this issue ?
[01:11] <psusi> Magiobiwan, maybe but it will be faster to reboot and just start over
[01:11] <TJ-> psusi: To prevent the rootfs accidentally being over-run by root processes filling /var/
[01:11] <TeraJL> on chrome://plugins/ i force the 11.2 instead of 11.9 flash , and seems better
[01:12] <psusi> TJ-, why does such an unlikely event matter?
[01:12] <Magiobiwan> psusi, that's debatable. It really depends on if I can get the server to boot to the IPMI virtual CDROM on my first try
[01:12] <TeraJL> some flashing green screens while switching but it's better
[01:12] <TJ-> psusi: Because it happens; had to deal with it many times on servers with run-away logs and cache/spool issues
[01:13] <aFeijo> my sidebar/launcher sometimes (like now) lose all but 1 icon colors. Its all grayed and hard to see. How to fix this?
[01:13] <Magiobiwan> /var is where the ISO templates are stored actually
[01:14] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: I do a lot of distributed building and have a separate LV for /var/cache/ccache
[01:17] <bloopletech> I'm trying to upgrade raring -> saucy, and the updater is aborting... is there an easy way to see which ppas are blocking my upgrade?
[01:17] <daftykins> any you've added won't be helping
[01:17] <Magiobiwan> Ohmygod the IPMI seems to be working
[01:17] <closingin> Nobody can help me ?
[01:17] <bloopletech> ok, so another question is there a way to bulk purge them? or do I have to ppa-purge each individual repo?
[01:18] <zacarias> Can anyone help solving a problem on a Macbook running Ubuntu 12.04.3 (DreamStudio), in which no sound comes out from the headphones nor external loudspeakers? I tried to change things in Alsa Mixer and Sound settings, but with no luck. It does mute the bilt-in speakers and it recognizes the phones (in the sound settings), but no sound comes out from.. I think it has something do to with drivers or alsa drivers: it has a NVIDIA driver, whi
[01:18] <zacarias> 12.04.3) has a Intel and it works out of the box
[01:19] <bloopletech> zacarias, 12.04 uses pulseaudio right? you should probably be checking the inputs/outputs in System Settings rather than the alsamixer
[01:19] <bloopletech> you might have the wrong sound output selected
[01:19] <rww> (yes, it does)
[01:20] <PatrickDickey> Ok, so this is odd. I dug into the grub.cfg file, and the 3.12.x kernel is listed under advanced options for Fedora 19. I have to actually edit the command to find the right one. :S
[01:22] <PatrickDickey> bloopletech: I believe you have to purge them individually. Unless you want to manually edit your sources.
[01:22] <zacarias> bloopletech: I checked that first. I also cheched (but not quite thoroughly) with pulse audio mixer. Nothing works for the moment.
[01:22] <bloopletech> PatrickDickey, I'm fine with manually editing ... but I have to purge first right?
[01:23] <PatrickDickey> bloopletech: I believe that the ppa-purge does that for you. But, I think it also removes any files that were installed using the ppa (or at least cleans the cache). Don't quote me on that though, as I've only used it a couple of times.
[01:23] <AlecTaylor> hi
[01:24] <AlecTaylor> My keyboard text input fails; but keyboard shortcuts work!  I'm using 13.04 on a mid 2012 MBP and my sound works fine... so in the output setting for the sound control panel, there's no 'headphones' entry? Or you select that entry and it doesn't work?
[01:24] <bloopletech> PatrickDickey, thanks for the help
[01:24] <bloopletech> zacarias, do the internal speakers work?
[01:30] <zacarias> bloopletech: There's a headphones entry, it's like if everything was ok. But no sound comes from it (neither headphones nor external speakers).  - How do I fix this? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2199421
[01:57]  * Magiobiwan sighs and murders his server's IPMI
[01:57] <Magiobiwan> Again
[01:59] <Rick_Ubuntu> I am looking for a opensource video editor that will allow me to sync sound from an external recorder
[01:59] <Rick_Ubuntu> anyone have any ideas?
[02:01] <somsip> Rick_Ubuntu: don't know about the support for external sources, but cinelerra, handbrake and lives are all possibilities
[02:04] <IdleOne> Rick_Ubuntu: take a look at OpenShot
[02:04] <Rick_Ubuntu> Open shot does not allow me to sync audio I cant link the media from one device to another in the same timeline.
[02:06] <IdleOne> sorry, then I don't know
[02:07] <IdleOne> Rick_Ubuntu: you might try asking in #ubuntustudio also
[02:07] <TJ-> Rick_Ubuntu: I think it is (used to be) possible to separate the audio from the video and move it within the timeline... 'unlock' maybe?
[02:08] <Rick_Ubuntu> TJ you mean unlock in OPENSHOT.  if that is a feature it is not readily visible.
[02:08] <TJ-> Rick_Ubuntu: It's a while ago since I hacked on that project, so maybe its not there or I'm mis-remembering
[02:20] <xilence> @viking667
[02:20] <xilence> hey....
[02:20] <Viking667> welcome back.
[02:21] <xilence> So you wanna take a guess at what happened or shall I tell you? :p
[02:34] <darius93> is there a way to snap windows horizontally?
[02:34] <GEDTMOR> why would you want to do that?
[02:35] <darius93> with me being a developer, having a program split down when pulling it to the corner doesnt show everything i wish for it to show as to having it going across i can
[02:35] <darius93> if that made any sense
[02:35] <GEDTMOR> upstream knows better dont get any ideas
[02:36] <widdershins> This may be an odd question... but it's worth a shot. Myself and the missus are moving into a new house soon in a community with no broadband. Could I order multiple (3?) telephone lines and multiple (3) dialup connections into a box with that many 56.6k dialup modems. Could I make a modem-bank server using ubuntu to then feed the bandwidth-sharing system over wireless to give my house something sensible? I know it could be a pricy subscription...
[02:36] <widdershins> but I'm wondering if it is posisble. :)
[02:36] <xangua> darius93: If you have CompizSsettings Manager installed, check the Grid plugin
[02:37] <darius93> thanks xangua. let me go on and install that now
[02:37] <GEDTMOR> you need to have a 3d capble card
[02:38] <somsip> widdershins: it's possible. Try searching for 'ubuntu multilink' as I see lots of results, though none for modems are particularly recent
[02:38] <darius93> I do GEDTMOR
[02:39] <somsip> danielbw: do you use unity? http://is.gd/PQlMx4
[02:41] <widdershins> thanks so much, somsip!
[02:41] <bloopletech> widdershins, it's possible, I think the kind of search terms you want are 'bonded line' etc. Though, depending upon where you are there may be thinks like 3G/HSDPA internet connections, and microwave or sattelite links. Any of those is likely to give you better perf than modems
[02:41] <otaku> Hey guys I need a hand with making a button in unity that exec a script
[02:42] <somsip> otaku: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141229/how-to-add-a-shell-script-to-launcher-as-shortcut
[02:44] <otaku> somsip: ok let me double check against that.  I have pretty sure I used that guide.  I make sure I haven't typo'd
[02:44] <bloopletech> widdershins, also, the phone line may support broadband, but merely not be connected yet. I would consider that as well... actually, if you're able to have telephone lines put in, why not just have the telecom company put in a new line that you can run broadband on?
[02:44] <Viking667> what do I need to add custom resolutions to Ubuntu on startup?
[02:46] <somsip> Viking667: a custom xorg.conf https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[02:46] <Viking667> ugh.
[02:46] <Viking667> so the desktop has no way to do so, hm?
[02:47] <Viking667> cos I just hosed some guys login
[02:47] <Viking667> thankfully he's got it back.
[02:47] <somsip> Viking667: AIUI, the desktop takes all of its settings from the real config files
[02:48] <AlecTaylor> hi
[02:48] <AlecTaylor> My keyboard text input fails; but keyboard shortcuts work... - How do I fix this? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2199421
[02:49] <otaku> somsip: Hi, I have just double checked and I think I have done it correctly.  This is my unity file which I have put at /usr/share/applications/           http://pastebin.com/mhayTXeG
[02:49] <somsip> AlecTaylor: have you discounted that this is a hardware issue?
[02:50] <Beldar> AlecTaylor, Have you tried the guest account or made a new user to see if this persists there? Anything leading up to this?
[02:50] <Viking667> somsip: yeah, well in this case, there IS no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:50] <Viking667> ... that's why I actually asked.
[02:50] <somsip> otaku: if the file has chmod +x that's looks okay to me, but I have no experience of unity so maybe best to check with someone who has
[02:50] <somsip> Viking667: it's not created by default any more.
[02:51] <otaku> somsip: ok thank you.  Do you recommend another channel ?
[02:51] <somsip> otaku: here is fine, just if there are not many people to help ,you might not get your answer. I guess you have restarted unity to get it to find the new shortcut file?
[02:52] <otaku> somsip: ahh no you I used update database and I have the icon.  but it doesn't load
[02:52] <otaku> somsip: this is my bash script http://pastebin.com/LGGXbWGS
[02:53] <otaku> somsip: I have checked before files are marked x
[02:54] <somsip> otaku: ok - show how much I know about unity then :) I'd question if gksu is the right thing to use in a terminal script, but like I say - I don't know unity at all so maybe this is right
[02:55] <otaku> somsip: thank you mate
[02:55] <Viking667> so. Where would I put stuff I want run each time I log in/
[02:55] <Viking667> I've heard of .xinit
[02:55] <Viking667> err, .xinitrc  or .xsession
[02:55] <somsip> Viking667: what sort of stuff? X related I guess?
[02:55] <Viking667> yeah, to add custom resolutions
[02:56] <Viking667> i.e. 1280x1024 when the xorg server's not finding them for itself.
[02:56] <somsip> Viking667: in the xorg.conf, like I said
[02:56] <Viking667> somsip: err, the user I'm dealing with doesn't know how to make one of those.
[02:56] <somsip> Viking667: erm...well, that's the place to put them AFAIK
[02:56] <Viking667> and I've already botched one setup.
[02:57] <mat_64> Hi, could someone help me. I'm looking for an tool to use my laptop cam as barcode/QRcode reader.
[02:57] <Viking667> I tried putting a Section "Monitor" ..... into /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10_monitor.conf    except then he couldn't log in, as the xserver died.
[02:58] <somsip> Viking667: last time I had to set one up manually, it was tricky. There are lots of other links on that page I linked to earlier. I believe there is a Xconfig --configurate (or something that escapes me) that generates a default conf for you to build from. Sorry - need to go out so can't help more
[02:58] <Viking667> ahhh, right.
[02:58] <somsip> Vi good luck anyhow
[02:59] <AlecTaylor> somsip: It's not a hardware issue; rebooted into Windows and everything works fine here
[02:59] <AlecTaylor> Beldar: Haven't tried a new user, would the guest user suffice for testing?
[02:59] <somsip> AlecTaylor: k - sorry but I need to afk. I can't help more for now
[02:59] <AlecTaylor> Beldar: Nothing leading up to this; last thing I remember installing was Kate
[02:59] <AlecTaylor> My keyboard text input fails; but keyboard shortcuts work... - How do I fix this? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2199421
[03:05] <otaku> Does anyone else have experience in unity buttons ?
[03:11] <Viking667> yay.
[03:11] <xilence> :p
[03:17] <cardoso> somebody ?
[03:17] <Logan_> !ask | cardoso
[03:18] <slorbast> Hey all, looking for some software solutions - Audio streaming server for Ubuntu + Android audio receiver software that work well together.
[03:18] <Beldar> AlecTaylor, I would try the guest account a new user can be made with the user app and removed easily, a live environment is another test. You want cover some variables basically by seeing if it is your user only.
[03:18] <slorbast> Basically, I want to take a video and ffmpeg to get the audio and stream that audio at a low bitrate to my android (data cap)
[03:23] <SchrodingersScat> slorbast: pre-convert then host on owncloud?
[03:23] <xilence> So guys, how do I know which monitor is being used for my xorg.config?
[03:23] <somsip> slorbast: do you need to use ffmpeg or is that just an option?
[03:23] <xilence> I only have one monitor.
[03:24] <slorbast> SchrodingersScat, somsip, will also be using livestreamer to grab live video, convert in real time to audio, then serve it up at low audio bitrate for my bandwidth limited device
[03:26] <somsip> slorbast: no idea then.
[03:27] <login_> oi
[03:28] <login_> xoxer
[03:30] <slorbast> Apparently shoutcast still exists and hasn't faded into obscurity, not sure if it's premier for Ubuntu though, worth a shot.
[03:39] <rawfodog> whats the name of that program that automatically installs skype on ubuntu ? I forget. It installs some other things that are usually a pain in the butt aswell
[03:41] <somsip> rawfodog: sudo apt-get install skype (after enabling partner repos) is all you need
[03:42] <rawfodog> k :)
[03:42] <rawfodog> I found the deb on the official skype site. Thanks a lot !
[03:42] <Ziber> So, I ran a few basic updates on today for my laptop, running 13.10. The only sound output my computer now recognizes is the HDMI port for my external monitor. System settings still sees my speakers and can play sounds through those, but pulseaudio can't. Any thoughts?
[03:48] <guest___> Quick question - what do I need to do or install bfore downloading and installing Gecko Media Player?
[03:49] <somsip> !info gecko-mediaplayer
[03:49] <somsip> guest___: install it from the repo instead
[03:50] <guest___> somsip - Do you mean to install it from the Ubuntu Software Center or from its main site?
[03:51] <somsip> guest___: from Sopftware Center
[03:51] <guest___> somsip - Okay.
[04:00] <androidfr33k> I have this Western Digital Drive  and for some reason when I partition it during the Ubuntu live 64 bit installation it is leaving me with 1 mb free space before my /dev/sda1 /boot and 1mb free space at the end?  I get a warning about My partition orally requires me to create a separate partition for the bootloader
[04:00] <mdev> http://pastebin.com/Mhn8tbBG
[04:00] <mdev> how do I fix that? am using ubuntu 12.04
[04:00] <androidfr33k> It goes on to say that the 1mb partition us a reserved Bios Boot area and not the same as /boot
[04:01] <androidfr33k> Its one of the newer drives not SSD or hybrid but a newer type of disk forgot the name
[04:03] <somsip> androidfr33k: searches seem to imply to leave it alone. Best to check WD support page with the model for your drive. This isn't really an ubuntu support issue
[04:05] <mdev> no one knows?
[04:05] <mdev> says it has dependancies but it won't install them? really?
[04:05] <Beldar> mdev, How about a context.
[04:06] <guest______> I would like to install the Deepin Software Center for Ubuntu 12.04.  Will this replace the default Ubuntu Software Center?
[04:09] <Beldar> guest______, Not sure in your question, however it is a 3rd party and not supported. If you have problems you are on your own here.
[04:10] <Beldar> guest______, I would not do it, but I use apt-get never the software center.
[04:12] <guest______> I am referring to this page for the terminal commands for version 3.0 of Deepin Software Center:  http://www.noobslab.com/2013/07/deepin-software-center-version-30-and.html
[04:12] <zane001> hi
[04:13] <cfhowlett> znegreetings
[04:13] <guest______> I just want to know if those terminal commands would be safe to execute and not delete the default Ubuntu Software Center.
[04:14] <cfhowlett> guest______, learn to use apt-get and leave 3rd party substitutes alone
[04:15] <guest______> cfhowlett - okay.
[04:16] <kriskropd> is anyone here familair with SANE? I built SANE 1.0.22 followign these really simplified instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompileSaneFromSource however I'm having an issue with permissions - only root can use the scanner device, but unlike the guide's suggestions, including my scanner in /lib/udev/rules.d/40-libsane.rules (where it was already included, actually) didn't resolve anything
[04:16] <kriskropd> s/root/sudo
[04:19] <Ziber> Why is the time/date missing from my status bar at the top of my screen? How can I put it back?
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[04:19] <FloodBot1> Exsquire: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:20] <mdev> think your floodbot needs to be tweaked
[04:20] <mdev> as that's a pretty slow response time
[04:20] <Magiobiwan> Those ALL were sent in the same second
[04:20] <Magiobiwan> So
[04:20] <Magiobiwan> Yeah
[04:23] <Diamondcite> More surprised excess flood didn't trigger on the IRCD
[04:25] <Magiobiwan> Diamondcite, it wasn't a SUPER big flood
[04:26] <q0> problem with CVS hanging with checkout, any ideas ?
[04:26] <q0> it always hangs at the same directory every time
[04:27] <q0> what the flying fuck, it's TWO THOUSAND FOURTEEN
[04:27] <somsip> !language | q0
[04:27] <q0> i'm really sorry
[04:27] <somsip> q0: so, how is this an ubuntu issue? I'm not getting that from what you've said so far
[04:29] <cfhowlett> q0, error messages MIGHT help a diagnosis as the IRC crystal ball is out for repairs
[04:29] <Magiobiwan> cfhowlett, I already said sorry for dropping it
[04:29] <Magiobiwan> WHO KNEW that glass breaks when its dropped
[04:29] <cfhowlett> Magiobiwan, :)
[04:33] <Bjizzle> I'm so frustrated right now.
[04:33] <Bjizzle> I cant install nvidia drivers. It says building kernel module failed
[04:34] <mdev> try googling the errors and your distro version
[04:34] <DF3D2> Is there anyway to send an email when I get a specific pop up sent from DBUS ????
[04:34] <guest______> Where can I go to paste references of my terminal window so I can get help?
[04:34] <somsip> !paste | guest______
[04:36] <Guest93421> How to increase concurrent sessions in a remote desktop connection via xrdp
[04:38] <guest______> I don't understand what this is telling me.  Could somebody help?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748631/
[04:38] <Ben64> guest______: you have that package in the 32bit version and its conflicting with the one you're now trying to install
[04:39] <cfhowlett> guest______, the correct response is "d'oh!"
[04:39] <guest______> I installed from the Ubuntu Software Center the Linux Standard Base 4.0 Printing package.
[04:40] <guest______> Ben64, you are saying that the 32 bit version is currently installed?
[04:40] <guest______> If so, how do I remove it?
[04:40] <Ben64> guest______: thats what the error message you posted said
[04:42] <guest______> Ben64 - how do I remove the 32 bit version?
[04:42] <starks> hi, i'm a little confused about the EFI partition. if i am dual-booting, do i need to overwrite that partition or simply add to it? i want to remove all the clutter from it but not lose my windows 8.1 booting
[04:43] <Beldar> !uefi | starks
[04:44] <starks> i've been through that... it doesn't really explain how to perform maintenance on it or how to deal with reinstalls in a dual-boot scenario
[04:45] <Beldar> starks, Maintenance? It addresses dualboots.
[04:45] <Beldar> reinstalls of what?
[04:45] <Ben64> guest______: ubuntu software center
[04:47] <starks> Beldar, reinstalls of whatever linux distro i want
[04:47] <starks> should the parition be formatted (lose all boot entries?) or manually cleaned without a format?
[04:47] <starks> because my refind/gummu/efistub is a complete mess
[04:47] <Beldar> starks, Some linux have the uefi shim some don't, if you have another OS than ubuntu in mind you would want to confer with them is all.
[04:47] <starks> but i cannot afford to lose my windows efi
[04:48] <Stratum> Is there an easy way to remove unity and replace it with standard GNOME 3?
[04:48] <xangua> !nounity | Stratum
[04:48] <Beldar> starks, You should have the pertinent W8 partitions imaged/cloned if you want to be sure to be safe.
[04:49] <Stratum> Thanks, xangua
[04:49] <FireBeyond> I'm trying to set up a mirror using apt-mirror. Despite using 'set defaultarch i386' in mirror.list (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748650/) - I'm only getting 64 bit bins (i'm using deb and deb-amd64).
[04:49] <starks> is it simply enough to save the windows efi file? would a startup repair restore it?
[04:49] <Beldar> Stratum, unity run on top of gnome 3, you can just install the gnome-shell for the gnome 3 desktop, unity is tiny, not worth removing.
[04:50] <Beldar> runs*
[04:50] <Stratum> I don't like it though.
[04:50] <Stratum> It looks like shit.
[04:50] <Stratum> AHHHH
[04:50] <FloodBot1> Stratum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:50] <Stratum> I didn't meant that.
[04:50] <Stratum> It's displeasing to my eye. :P
[04:51] <Beldar> starks, I would not rely on the reload partition on the HD, I would clone all the windows partitions.
[04:51] <starks> hmmm
[04:52] <Beldar> starks, You want to be prepared for any scenario
[04:54] <Beldar> starks, Chances are you can get a OEM disc set from the manufacture at a low price, mine was 30$ US for W7, that is another protection, and then just do backups.
[04:54] <starks> thanks
[04:55] <Beldar> I like clones myself it's a fast fix in any case
[04:55] <HDRDanny> !nounity
[04:59] <HDRDanny> So, what do I do after that?
[04:59] <HDRDanny> Will it remove Unity?
[05:02] <xangua> HDRDanny: no, why are you so obsessed about it¿ If you don't want a trace of unity download and install ubuntu gnome
[05:02] <Bashing-om> HDRDanny: You should not remove unity, just do not use it, chsose a differrent DE at login.
[05:02] <Temper> i have a script in /etc/init.d that works from sudo service scriptname start.. but it doesn't run on boot, why?
[05:02] <Bashing-om> *choose
[05:03] <Temper> there are symlinks in rc2.d - rc5.d...
[05:05] <Temper> nothing?
[05:09] <Temper> what really doesn't make sense is if i init 1 then init 5 the script runs
[05:10] <Guest93421> how to change root password in ubuntu
[05:10] <somsip> !root | Guest93421
[05:10] <Temper> sudo passwd root
[05:10] <Temper> or just sudo su -
[05:10] <Temper> to be root
[05:11] <Guest93421> Temper, how to change sudo password...
[05:11] <Temper> lol
[05:12] <Temper> the sudo password is the password of the logged in use
[05:12] <Temper> err user
[05:12] <somsip> Guest93421: you shouldn't be using it
[05:12] <Guest93421> ok
[05:12] <somsip> Guest93421: can you explain why you think you need to use it?
[05:12] <Temper> yeah.. stay away from the console..
[05:14] <Guest93421> somsip, I created user account siva.which i am using now.the password is very weak now i want to change the password....siva is root ..how to change passwd
[05:14] <somsip> Guest93421: passwd
[05:14] <Temper> siva is not root
[05:14] <Temper> siva is siva
[05:14] <Temper> root is root..
[05:14] <Guest93421> Temper, then how to change password for siva
[05:14] <Temper> passwd
[05:14] <lucasredsn0w> Finally...I've done UEFI boot on my computer
[05:15] <Temper> lol in linux?
[05:15] <lucasredsn0w> And with Ubuntu
[05:15] <Temper> sweet
[05:15] <somsip> Guest93421: Just type 'passwd' to change the password for the current user. You should not be giving a user root privs, but that's your call
[05:15] <Temper> how hard was that?
[05:15] <lucasredsn0w> Temper: You see, it cost me nearly 2 weeks
[05:15] <Temper> lol
[05:15] <lucasredsn0w> This machine is strange
[05:15] <Temper> my laptop has an option to only allow UEFI booting
[05:15] <lucasredsn0w> But UEFI Ubuntu is a lot faster
[05:16] <lucasredsn0w> It cost 14 seconds on UEFI and 1 second on booting the OS
[05:16] <lucasredsn0w> costs
[05:16] <Guest93421> somsip, thank u
[05:16] <Temper> anyone know why this script doesn't run on boot? it works with "sudo service script start"
[05:16] <lucasredsn0w> Temper: Which one?
[05:16] <Temper> and the symlinks are in the rc3.d etc folders
[05:17] <Temper> its a script i made
[05:17] <Temper> it is designed to setup and format a ramdrive
[05:17] <Temper> but it just doesn't run
[05:17] <lazyg33k> hello everyone i need help
[05:17] <lazyg33k> i just download the new version v.13
[05:17] <lucasredsn0w> lazyg33k: Tell us your problem
[05:18] <bsdbandit> has anyone got ubuntu configured to authenticate to active directory using kerobse ?
[05:18] <Temper> sudo service setupramdrive start works..
[05:18] <lucasredsn0w> Setup and format a ramdrive...
[05:18] <Beldar> !anyone | bsdbandit
[05:19] <Temper> !foobar | Beldar
[05:19] <lazyg33k> try to install it i  clik f1 to clik for spoken language and do install when i get to the screen it load till the screen begin to flash and just stay there
[05:19] <lazyg33k> it just don't load
[05:19] <Temper> crappy bot.. doesn't know what foobar is
[05:19] <Beldar> mmm mindless
[05:20] <Temper> foobar scripting...
[05:20] <lazyg33k> so i download the v.12 but till i got the same flashing screen
[05:20] <Temper> i still don't get why this script doesn't run..
[05:20] <waykool99> logged on Ubuntu Studio v13.10 64 bit. 2 questions... selected Gnome Classic GUI. the "old" 10.04, when you right clicked on taskbar, was Properties wText size, Arrows for sliding/hiding Taskbar. how/where is that feature in 13.10?
[05:20] <lucasredsn0w> I found nothing about kerobse
[05:21] <lucasredsn0w> waykool99: This seems could not happen in Unity 7 in default
[05:21] <lucasredsn0w> I means, without any tweaking
[05:22] <lucasredsn0w> mean
[05:23] <waykool99> 13.10 does occasionally come up with 'Unity' looking left toolbar.
[05:23] <lazyg33k> the 2 iso was download from the official mainsite and i try to install it via usb and dvd option someone have a idea why it won't install ?
[05:23] <lucasredsn0w> lazyg33k: Please tell me how you boot them. UEFI or MBR+BIOS?
[05:24] <lazyg33k> what the diference ?
[05:24] <mynameisdeleted> so.. mir display
[05:24] <lazyg33k> i suposse is mbr+bios
[05:24] <Bending_Spoons> Hi everyone is there a place where non-technical people can go to give feedback?  I don't have Ubuntu installed but I'm interested in Ubuntu Touch.
[05:24] <mynameisdeleted> rumors are kubuntu is going with wayland stilll
[05:24] <mynameisdeleted> and that mesa wotn accept mir patches upstream
[05:25] <lazyg33k> maybe is because my laptop is amd cpu and gpu inside
[05:25] <somsip> mynameisdeleted: not really support issues. Try #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:25] <lucasredsn0w> lazyg33k: amd cpu and gpu means nothing
[05:26] <lazyg33k> ok good its not what i suposed then
[05:26] <lazyg33k> so when it get to the purple screen he bug there and do nothing
[05:26] <lucasredsn0w> lazyg33k: Can you see GRUB boot menu?
[05:26] <Bashing-om> Bending_Spoons: register at:http://discourse.ubuntu.com/ They are very bif on touch.
[05:27] <lazyg33k> when i it f1 yes till he get battery state
[05:27] <somsip> !touch | Bending_Spoons
[05:27] <lazyg33k> then he became at the purple screeen and bug
[05:27] <lucasredsn0w> With something like "Try Ubuntu"
[05:27] <lucasredsn0w> You may press "E" to edit the command
[05:28] <lucasredsn0w> And replace all "quiet splash" with "nomodeset", that's how I boot the LiveUSB and begin my installation
[05:28] <lazyg33k> ok
[05:28] <lazyg33k> so when i select laguage i it e key
[05:28] <lazyg33k> and enter quiet splash
[05:28] <lucasredsn0w> Not there!
[05:28] <lazyg33k> ha ok
[05:28] <lucasredsn0w> ...
[05:28] <lucasredsn0w> When you see the GRUB menu
[05:29] <lazyg33k> the only grub menu i see is when i can hit windows 7 or ubuntu
[05:29] <lucasredsn0w> Right
[05:29] <lazyg33k> ok
[05:29] <lazyg33k> so i pres e there
[05:29] <Bending_Spoons> are those places where the people who are creating Ubuntu Touch go to read feedback?
[05:29] <lazyg33k> and enter that command
[05:29] <lucasredsn0w> not enter
[05:29] <lazyg33k> ok
[05:29] <somsip> Bending_Spoons: go to #ubuntu-touch for discussion
[05:30] <lucasredsn0w> Replace all "quiet splash" with "nomodeset"
[05:30] <lazyg33k> ok
[05:30] <lucasredsn0w> Just try it
[05:30] <lazyg33k> ok itry brb
[05:33] <RandomStrayCat> So I run memtest86+, then mid-test it'll kick me out/reboot and just sit on the intel motherboard splash screen
[05:33] <RandomStrayCat> Thoughts?
[05:34] <lucasredsn0w> Why do you run memtest86+?
[05:34] <lucasredsn0w> Any problem with your RAM?
[05:35] <lucasredsn0w> -_-# Strange problem
[05:36] <RandomStrayCat> Rebuilding an old system, just trouble shooting the whole thing
[05:41] <Bashing-om> Bending_Spoons: Discourse is frequented by many of the developers, lots of good info there.
[05:43] <Temper> so i have a script.. in /etc/init.d/ and I ran "update-rc.d script start 99 2 3 4 5 ." and "service script start" works exactly as i want it to.. so why doesn't the script run on boot?
[05:44] <BlueMint> Hi, I am needing a bit of help with the installation of ubuntu. I currently have about 1TB of data on my HDD that I want to install ubuntu onto, but during the installation it doesn't show that I have anything on it. Here is the fdisk, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748830/
[05:47] <Beldar> BlueMint, Looks like a got, this a W8 dualboot?
[05:48] <Beldar> gpt*
[05:48] <BlueMint> Beldar: nah, no OS installed on it
[05:48] <BlueMint> Beldar: but there is W8 system files on there?
[05:48] <Bashing-om> BlueMint: I am not a windows expert, but, does not "HPFS" mean dynamic allocation, windows proprietary such that linux can not touch it (ubuntu is not presently installed !)
[05:49] <Beldar> BlueMint, Ah I missed the extended.
[05:49] <bsdbandit> i keep getting the following output from my lamp website �5.�Securit� how do i get rid of this
[05:49] <BlueMint> Bashing-om: yes windows did partition this drive, and no, ubuntu is not currently installed, live booting off a USB
[05:50] <somsip> bsdbandit: is this on ubuntu? If so, use paste.ubuntu.com and show the errors on there
[05:50] <bsdbandit> yes
[05:50] <bsdbandit> ok
[05:51] <Beldar> BlueMint, the hpfs does mean dynamic, ubuntu wont install on it.
[05:51] <BlueMint> Beldar: what am I to do to fix this then? ):
[05:52] <bsdbandit> this  is the issue i keep running into http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748855/
[05:52] <somsip> bsdbandit: and where is this output?
[05:52] <Beldar> BlueMint, Not sure, you would have to get rid of the dynamic, kinda out of the support here.
[05:52] <BlueMint> Beldar: damn okay. Thanks for your help though. This is going to be annoying to fix
[05:53] <bsdbandit> i keep getting those question marks
[05:53] <bsdbandit> with the outout of my website
[05:53] <somsip> bsdbandit: is that it? Nothing to do with ubuntu. Look up character encoding and HTML
[05:53] <bsdbandit> ok
[05:54] <bsdbandit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6748863/
[06:01] <gregoryo> Hi all. On FreeBSD I can 'pkg_create -b' an old installed package (that is now unavailable from sources) into a tarball, then remove it and try out a newer version before removing it and reinstall the old (working) version with pkg_add. I'd like to do something like that on an old Ubuntu box. What are the relevant tools?
[06:04] <Bashing-om> BlueMint: I am aware that there is a means to change that HPFS partitioning back to basic, but there is some risk involved, Ya might look on ubuntuforums for a tutorial.
[06:05] <BlueMint> Bashing-om: the data on there is like 3 years worth of my projects and they're not backed up (they are the backup)
[06:06] <BlueMint> Bashing-om: so that might not be for me unfortuneately
[06:10] <Bashing-om> BlueMint: Sorry not to be able to offer a better solution, All I can say is look on the forum - others have the same problem
[06:10] <BlueMint> Bashing-om: don't be sorry, you've been very helpful :) Thanks
[06:10] <Foars> Selecting brasero to burn an ISO with, I get a "Size Estimation" dialogue box which reads: "Please wait until the estimation of the size is completed."/"All files need to be analysed to complete this operation." and has a progress bar with no progress. It's been sitting there for quite a while.
[06:12] <Bashing-om> BlueMint: \o/
[06:14] <waly_> hello guys I need some help
[06:15] <waly_> please read this, I link as I am having wifi problem
[06:15] <waly_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/405052/wifi-works-on-live-cd-but-not-when-i-boot-from-hd
[06:15] <waly_> wifi used to work through live cd but wouldn't work when I would install ubuntu to hd
[06:15] <waly_> but now it won't work in live cd either
[06:16] <Beldar> waly_, In the terminal run lspci, find the wifi hardware and post it to the channel.
[06:16] <waly_> hello beldar
[06:17] <waly_> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 [Condor Peak]
[06:18] <Beldar> waly_, Ah realtek, here are the threads on askubuntu. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=RTL8101E%2FRTL8102E
[06:19] <waly_> is it realtek or intel centrino wireless ?
[06:19] <Beldar> waly_, centrino is a name the realtek info in your thread is actually what it is, not an area I'm real up on however.
[06:21] <marandi> hi guys , i have Radeon HD 4550 graphic chipset , and ubuntu 13.10 wont recognize proper resolution for my monitor , i try to add resolution with xrandr command but when i restart machine , i got error and display would set on default 1024*768 px .. what should i do ?!
[06:21] <Beldar> waly_, It says realtek ethernet, I assume it is the same for wireless, lspci might confirm this.
[06:23] <waly_> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 [Condor Peak]
[06:23] <waly_> 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)
[06:23] <waly_> that is what lspci shows
[06:23] <waly_> so what am I supposed to do there
[06:23] <waly_> I have been going at this for a while, like over 12 hours
[06:24] <Beldar> waly_, Take a look at this thread notice the helper, they are tops in this area, I would make a thread there as well, it appears the centrino is correct, my mistake. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1941350
[06:25] <waly_> chili555 is answering my question on askubuntu right now
[06:25] <waly_> so hopefully he could help me fix it :)
[06:25] <Ben64> waly_: do you have a dual boot system
[06:25] <Beldar> waly_, Score, hehe
[06:27] <waly_> no
[06:27] <waly_> just ubuntu
[06:27] <waly_> I don't want to try windows anymore
[06:27] <waly_> I am done with that
[06:27] <waly_> I just want to get wifi working
[06:27] <waly_> wlan working
[06:28] <Ben64> well i'm asking because for whatever reason, my wireless doesn't work in ubuntu unless i start windows first, then reboot into ubuntu. something to do with the hardware switch recognition thingy
[06:31] <waly_> beldar the guy went ahead and downgraded his driver and that seemed to work
[06:31] <waly_> should I try to do the same
[06:33] <waly_> there doesn't seem to be any harm as I will be taking a backup
[06:34] <Beldar> waly_, I would follow the helper, not an area I know anything about.
[06:34] <waly_> i should be able to restore it then
[06:34] <waly_> aha ok
[06:34] <waly_> thanks beldar
[06:34] <waly_> the helper is currently answering my question
[06:36] <Beldar> no problem, hope you get it fixed
[06:41] <hpa620n> whoa this is cool
[06:42] <santosh> hi
[06:42] <dalit> when i open large sized pdf documents in DocumentViewer3.4.0 my whole system freezes. then i have to for restart of my computer
[06:42] <dalit> any help?
[06:42] <Guest78443> ??
[06:43] <dalit> when i open large sized pdf documents in DocumentViewer3.4.0 my whole system freezes. then i have to for restart of my computer
[06:43] <hpa620n> how large of a file are we talkin'?
[06:43] <FreezingCold> Any of you guys tried Ubuntu Advantage Desktop before? Thinking about getting it for my parents
[06:43] <dalit> can this be averded?
[06:43] <FreezingCold> dalit: Not a fix, but try using Firefox's pdf viewer
[06:43] <hpa620n> Nope.. Im still happy as a clam running Karmic :)))
[06:43] <FreezingCold> I find it great
[06:43] <dalit> 28 or 48 MB
[06:44] <dalit> FreezingCold : u mean i should view it with firefox web browser
[06:44] <Guest78443> some programs run when I boot my pc ... how do disable it?
[06:44] <hpa620n> does the same thing happen if you open/import pdfs into LibreOffice or Apache OpenOffice?
[06:44] <FreezingCold> dalit: yeah, it has a .pdf viewer writer in javascript
[06:45] <Ben64> hpa620n: you shouldn't be. you haven't received a security update since April 2011
[06:45] <hpa620n> lol nothing is secure
[06:45] <Guest78443> http://askubuntu.com/questions/405157/some-programs-run-on-startup does anyone know how to disable it??
[06:45] <dalit> hpa620n : can we view pdf in libreoffice?
[06:45] <Ben64> hpa620n: especially your system
[06:46] <dalit> FreezingCold : i hope its stable
[06:46] <hpa620n> yes....libreoffice, which still runs under karmic, can natively open PDFs
[06:46] <\b> Hi, I'm wondering when Ubuntu downloads the updates during install, can I choose what server to download from before hand?
[06:46] <FreezingCold> dalit: it was for me
[06:46] <FreezingCold> hpa620n: I found it slow
[06:47] <hpa620n> i tell you, I've tried to implement image/.iso updates to newer versions of Ubuntu and have always had pblms...I found myself rolling back to Karmic and have just stayed there
[06:48] <Guest78443> dang!!
[06:48] <hpa620n> Ubuntu Karmic is faster than my triple boot into win98/winxp/win7
[06:48] <dalit> hpa620n : what filter selection should i use in libreoffice for opening pdf/
[06:49] <hpa620n> you dont need to choose a filter...with the latest version of libre, the import mechanism is built-in.
[06:50] <dalit> hpa620n : i tried to open it by double clicking and its still asking
[06:51] <hpa620n> ok Hold on
[06:51] <Ben64> hpa620n: you really should upgrade to something supported. like 12.04. it'll last until 2017
[06:51] <gregoryo> aptitude and dpkg -l both show a package installed that's a different version to what's actually installed. How do I resolve this?
[06:52] <Ben64> gregoryo: more likely that dpkg is correct
[06:52] <hpa620n> use LibreOffice Draw to view/open PDFs
[06:52] <dalit> ok
[06:52] <hpa620n> are you using <IP_ADDRESS> or later?
[06:53] <rww> gregoryo: or rather, why you you think aptitude is wrong?
[06:53] <rww> do you **
[06:53] <gregoryo> Ben64, rww: rdiff-backup (the software in question) fails to work across major versions, and 'rdiff-backup --version' shows the (old) version that I expect.
[06:54] <b7> Hello all. I have an ubuntu softraid, my drives become broken and has been replaced one by one. Now my system is unbootable. I had boot the rescue system, mounted my root partition on raid and chrooted to it and had seen that all the drives-related info is showing the old configuration and doesn't reflect the current. How could I fix it?
[06:54] <hpa620n> well Im thinking about it...but I wont do it until I get another 3TB drive and start a clean install
[06:54] <llutz> gregoryo: "which rdiff-backup"  shows what path?
[06:54] <gregoryo> /usr/bin/rdiff-backup
[06:55] <hpa620n> between my three systems, i have about 12 different harddrives :)
[06:55] <hpa620n> and a 3TB external storage backing every piece of software known to man :)
[06:56] <YellowGTO> Hey guys im having a weird issue. When I install software
[06:56] <YellowGTO> I can't tab to the Ok spot in the Eula
[06:58] <YellowGTO> I just get stuck at the EULA screen https://www.dropbox.com/s/wzc9n1070q6a8s6/Screenshot%202014-01-14%2001.57.44.png
[06:58] <hpa620n> Ben, how do you like 12.00 I've read the review but Im still in 'if it aint broke-dont-fix-it' mode.
[06:58] <YellowGTO> Everything else in the OS is responsive. The terminal window still scrolls up and down.
[07:00] <Guest84696> how can i download updated ubuntu without having to update it after installation?
[07:00] <Beldar> YellowGTO, I thought tab was it, I do it automatically but forget,try the left arrow and the space bar
[07:00] <Beldar> er right arrrow
[07:04] <YellowGTO> Beldar, no dice. Im just going to have to reboot I guess.
[07:04] <Oog> whats the easiest way to daemonize a program so that it runs when i logout and if it crashes it gets restarted automatically?
[07:04] <YellowGTO> My servers been running so long lol. Such a shame.
[07:06] <ryan_46> guest84696 Currently you can download 12.04.3  but 12.04.4 is due in the near future I think.
[07:10] <b7> Oh, I solved my problem. I had to reinstall the grub.
[07:10] <b7> Thanks everyone.
[07:11] <adwadwaw> Ugh this has never happened... I'm installing Ubuntu on someones laptop... all I have is the wallpaper at the installation screen... no gui...
[07:11] <adwadwaw> i guess there's no text installation like debian so i have no idea what's going on
[07:13] <YellowGTO> Beldar, works after reboot. Thanks for responding though ;)
[07:14] <Beldar> YellowGTO, Cool, no problem.
[07:28] <hcchen> I use Ubuntu about 3 times a year. Frustrated with the interface every time. I wish they never change the interface.
[07:29] <Ben64> you don't have to use unity
[07:31] <nearst> !lubuntu | hcchen
[07:32] <Temper> if i need a script to run right after luks encrypted partitions are setup in /dev/mapper/ where do I put the script?
[07:33] <hcchen> ubottu ,  thank you very much
[07:33] <hcchen> nearst : tks!
[07:34] <hcchen> wow! ubottu answered my question accurately, amazing. I'll try lubuntu, thansk.
[07:37] <b0x> gah ubuntu and nvidia really dont play nicely together
[07:41] <Foars> b0x: Nvidia's fault. I think.
[07:41] <b0x> well
[07:42] <b0x> also my laptops bluetooth nor wired ethernet work
[07:42] <b0x> so :/
[07:43] <b0x> just spent an hour odd attempting various nvidia driver installs, having them all fail, then trying to recooperate everything to get to a working desktop!
[07:43] <Foars> Well if everyone provided open source drivers...
[07:43] <b0x> i'd like reasonable multi monitor support
[07:43] <b0x> but alas
[08:02] <Oog> im using rails did foreman export upsart all is setup except when i start it, rails just reboots in a loop like there is no rails app there!
[08:02] <Oog> its like it isnt in the app folder
[08:02] <Oog> ideas?
[08:03] <Oog> it does su - myapp -c 'cd /home/dgobaud/SMTP Server/smtp_server;
[08:03] <Oog> so it is changing to the folder
[08:03] <somsip> Oog: sounds like you need rails support, rather than ubuntu support
[08:03] <Oog> im thinking its a path thing
[08:04] <Oog> related to the cd and su
[08:04] <Oog> hmm
[08:04] <somsip> Oog: well, you miss an apostrophe off what you pasted
[08:04] <Oog> exec su - myapp -c 'cd /home/myapp/SMTP Server/smtp_server; export PORT=5000; export RAILS_ENV=beta;  rails s -p 5000 >> /var/log/smtp-beta/web-beta-1.log 2>&1'
[08:05] <somsip> Oog: I'd still suggest #rails support
[08:06] <Oog> ok thanks
[08:17] <Oog> got it
[08:17] <Oog> somsip it was the spae in the folder
[08:18] <Oog> needed to escape it
[08:20] <StarSky> 0
[08:20] <somsip> Oog: ah yes
[08:30] <geirha> instead of   export A=1; export B=2; cmd   you can do   A=1 B=2 cmd
[08:40] <hcchen> using VMware 7 to install Ubuntu 13-10, blocked at "Kernel Panic Not Syncing Attempted To Kill The Idle Task"
[08:43] <hcchen> How to swith to use an older kernel? before "Kernel Panic Not Syncing Attempted To Kill The Idle Task" occurs? or how to reach to the Grub page?
[08:44] <hcchen> I tried to press 'Esc' , never worked.
[08:46] <Wug> hcchen: to get grub during boot I think you hold shift, not esc
[08:54] <hcchen> To get Grub during Ubuntu 13-10 32bits on VMware 7 virtual machine. press Esc doesn't work nor hold shift
[08:54] <hcchen> does it need a technique or timeing?
[08:57] <Beldar> hcchen, Have you changed the grub timeout?
[08:57] <Beldar> hcchen, If your holding the shift be sure it is at the correct point tapping it may be better as soon as you boot it.
[08:58] <Beldar> tapping repeatedly
[08:58] <Guest2244> I have a laptop with 1366 - 768 resolution, what would be a safe resolution for GRUB boot screen?
[08:59] <Beldar> Guest2244, run xrandr in the terminal and use the sizes there and find what yo9u like.
[09:00] <song_> hi, where should I put my export statements? thanks.
[09:01] <hcchen> I'll try tapping
[09:01] <geirha> song_: In ~/.profile
[09:01] <song_> geirha, thanks a lot. that file seems generated automatically. I will append to it.
[09:02] <Beldar> hcchen, Ubuntu will run better in a partition on the hd in the end, depends on what you use is really.
[09:02] <Beldar> your*
[09:03] <iwantoski> if I change the owner and group of a symbolic link made using "ln -s" I would change the owner:group of the original file, right?
[09:03] <geirha> iwantoski: right
[09:03] <iwantoski> How can I avoid that?
[09:04] <geirha> ownership and mode on a symbolic link are meaningless; they're never used for anything, so there's no point in changing them.
[09:04] <iwantoski> ah
[09:05] <iwantoski> how can I safely remove a symbolic link without touching the original file/folder? :)
[09:07] <ufk> iwantoksi: just rm the symbolic link
[09:07] <hcchen> Beldar: Yeah, I am really using the 'try without installing'  and it always 'Kernel Panic' on VMware 7 new virtual machine. Will try install . . .
[09:07] <ufk> iwantoksi: even if it's a directory, the link is a file so just rm path (not rm -rf)
[09:08] <iwantoski> ufk: makes perfect sense :) thanks.
[09:08] <ufk> :)
[09:09] <iwantoski> I "kind of" know about this, but I've never really don't this stuff in a production environment. A bit scared.
[09:09] <ufk> yeah everything done on production environment is scary! :)
[09:09] <Beldar> hcchen, I would check the md5sum on the ISO, never used vmware so not sure if this inherent with it however.
[09:11] <jlebrech> everytime I log in to precise i have to run arandr to enable multi monitor, is there a program i can install that'll do it automatically?
[09:16] <hcchen> Beldar : tks. install gets same problem. Check md5 is good idea!!
[09:20] <Guest2244> ah thanks Beldar
[09:20] <Beldar> no problem folks
[09:23] <john_rambo> Is it possible know if my system is secure using nmap if I have only 1 pc  ?
[09:26] <madhurjya> Hello!
[09:34] <gerryvdm> hey, i want to ensure the directory /var/run/php5-fpm/ exists when starting the service, I used to do this in the /etc/init.d/php5-fpm script, but what is the proper way of doing that now?
[09:36] <swaagie> so lately i've been seeing cryptswap1 messages, until now startup usually just resumed after a few seconds, perma hangs now :/ recreated swap and redid ecryptfs-setup-swap but that did not seem to resolve anything
[09:37] <apb1963> How can I update qt please?
[09:38] <swaagie> now I could be looking at a red herring and it being like graphic issues but seems akward
[09:39] <swaagie> time to kill splashscreen first
[09:47] <Guest2244> What is the name of the Screen that is Purple and says Ubuntu 12.04 or 13.10 etc...is it called the Splash Screen?
[09:47] <lolcat> Guest2244: I belive so
[09:48] <Myrtti> Guest2244: before, during or after you log in?
[09:48] <lolcat> I have a werird problem with ubuntu
[09:48] <lolcat> Depending on what graphic driver I use, I have either the ubuntu image on my desktop or just plain black
[09:49] <Guest2244> after GRUB and before Log in there is the Purple screen with Ubuntu and version number after printed
[09:49] <kostkon> !plymouth
[09:49] <kostkon> Guest2244, ^^
[09:50] <voeic> I just found out about BIND, the DNS software. is this a safe one? wikipedia article refers to military funding and involvement in development. it also mentions earlier versions as very vulnerable
[09:51] <Myrtti> voeic: bind in ubuntu is often and quickly updated with security updates
[09:52] <lolcat> Myrtti: So is Oracle Java, still nobody would argue it is particularly secure.
[09:52] <Guest2244> Ubottu -  I got this output after trying your suggestion "There is only one alternative in link group default.plymouth (providing /lib/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth): /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo/ubuntu-logo.plymouth
[09:52] <Guest2244> Nothing to configure."
[09:52] <Myrtti> Guest2244: so you've not gotten new themes for it then
[09:52] <Myrtti> lolcat: but that's oracles job nowadays
[09:52] <lolcat> voeic: Most encryption and security stuff has some government involvement. If they use it themselves that may give you some confidence it is safe.
[09:52] <lolcat> Myrtti: Java was sold again?
[09:53] <Myrtti> lolcat: you said it yourself, Oracle Java
[09:53] <lolcat> Oh, I thought you meant it wasn't their job
[09:53] <Guest2244> I would like to change that screen to something interesting and I'd like to have a high resolution view of the verbose print during the boot up process.
[09:53] <kostkon> lolcat, oracle bought sun
[09:53] <YellowGTO> I thought that happened ages ago
[09:53] <Guest2244> No I dont think i've gotten any new themes
[09:54] <lolcat> kostkon: I am aware, that is why I sad Oracle Java and not Sun Java
[09:54] <Myrtti> Guest2244: well that's what you need to do then
[09:54] <kostkon> lolcat, indeed
[09:54] <voeic> lolcat, maybe that's why we have a problem called nsa today :)-- on the other hand, co-existence of military / darpa involvement and high vulnerability..hmm.
[09:54] <Guest2244> Can help me with that? the getting of new themes?
[09:54] <lolcat> Is ubuntu 13.10 broken because of the new graphic stuff? the x-server change or whatever?
[09:55] <lolcat> voeic: If NSA uses it, they must have some confidence in it.
[09:55] <lolcat> I am considering going back to 13.04
[09:56] <swaagie> solved my prob, cryptswap was red herring some lib update yesterday borked the ati drivers
[09:56] <lolcat> back to 12.04 I mea
[10:02] <Guest2244> I can use GRUB Customizer to change the boot sequence resolution to match my laptops screen?
[10:03] <kkkkkkkkkkkkk> hi, all recently i did update , but now unnity is running in 2d mode only
[10:04] <kkkkkkkkkkkkk> unity version is 5.20, i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[10:04] <kkkkkkkkkkkkk> kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:05] <Vneet> Guys need your help related Glusterfs security
[10:05] <Vneet> can you please help me how can I configure my Volume with password protected?
[10:06] <kkkkkkkkkkkkk> plus on unity when i type something in dash, it types, but navigation between icons, using arrow key doesnot work
[10:06] <kkkkkkkkkkkkk> how to solve that weird problem
[10:06] <kkkkkkkkkkkkk> i was thinking that update will
[10:06] <kkkkkkkkkkkkk> help me, it increased my problems
[10:11] <Vneet> ??
[10:11] <Vneet> can you please help me how can I configure my Volume with password protected?
[10:11] <Vneet> can you please help me how can I configure my Gluster Volume with password protected?
[10:11] <Guest41365> I would like to see the verbose boot up onscreen instead of the Purple screen with Ubuntu title and version text.  Can anyone help?
[10:13] <Vneet> can you please help me how can I configure my Gluster Volume with password protected?
[10:18] <voeic> lolcat, it is not a matter of whether they have confidence in it..besides, none of us (except the nsa employees here)  knows what nsa uses. sure not what we use. http://is.gd/IAympS
[10:21] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[10:21] <sdzr> hi
[10:22] <yellabs-r2> i have seen all these new cool "steam machines" , and it makes me think, are all of these machines actually compatible with ubuntu, so no hassle install ? out of the box linux machines ?
[10:22] <Guest41365> Just discovered the name of the the verbose output during Ubuntu Spash screen - Boot Messages
[10:23] <Guest41365> I want to increase the resolution to my monitors settings and have those Boot Messages displayed onscreen instead of the Purple Ubuntu title and version number.  Any help?
[10:24] <Myrtti> Guest41365: you can control that with the grub2 boot options, I can't remember which file to edit from the top of my head, but removing "quiet splash" from that file springs to mind
[10:25] <sdzr> dunno. i guess steambox is still quit different
[10:25] <Guest41365> yesI've just noticed the "quiet and splash" thanks
[10:26] <lolcat> yellabs-r2: It is just debian with a steam overlay
[10:26] <lolcat> yellabs-r2: you can download steamOS
[10:27] <gerep> Hello all.
[10:27] <gerep> Hello all. I have one HD with 3 partitions so it is sda1, sda2 and sda3. I have Windows on sda1 and sda2 was created by Windows. My linux is on sda3. I have a Erlang code that make some tests based on my HD UUID. What I don't get it that if I pass the UUID from sda3 (where I have linux and is current mounted) the tests fail but if I pass the UUID from sda1 (where I have Windows) and the tests pass. So, please, correct me if I'm wrong, the sda1 is the "real" HD U
[10:27] <yellabs-r2> yes i tried installing it, but needs eufi boot, wich my pc's do not have
[10:28] <hayig2000> hi guys, i 'm running lubuntu as guest inside windows host, should i install guest additions from package manager or from vbox website?
[10:30] <gerep> hayig2000 I'd install from vbox
[10:31] <k1l_> hayig2000: i had no problem with the ubuntu repos guest additions
[10:32] <hayig2000> ok thx
[10:34] <tripelb> 12.04 gnome-classic Where do I find Trash so I can empty it? How about the Help thing so I can ask questions about ubuntu? (like about emptying the trash)
[10:37] <k1l_> tripelb: open nautilus and look into the bookmarks bar on the left
[10:39] <Devil__> I got it to work!
[10:39] <Devil__> yay!
[10:39] <Devil__> Boot Messages up and running
[10:40] <Devil__> Sorry I just like to share my excitement now and then
[10:45] <Bombon> can some one help me with ubuntu hotspot making?
[10:46] <Bombon> i want to make my laptop a hotspot with wifi so that i can connect my android phone to my laptop wifi
[10:46] <Bombon> ?
[10:47] <joeri_> why would you want to do that?
[10:47] <Bombon> cuase i want to access internet from my android phone
[10:47] <joeri_> http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/
[10:48] <Bombon> joeri_ i am using portable ubuntu that works with windows xp
[10:48] <Bombon> i checked that , it doesnt work
[10:48] <joeri_> sorry, i never tried it
[10:48] <chemist^> hi everyone, i've just received some updates for BIND, but if i don't use my computer as a name server this is useless right? can i uninstall bind from my system without any issues?
[10:48] <joeri_> what is the issue you get?
[10:49] <Bombon> joeri_ i cant find wifi network adapter in my ubuntu
[10:49] <joeri_> do you have wifi on your laptop? is it enabled?
[10:49] <chemist^> Bombon, that's cause it's disabled
[10:50] <joeri_> or the wlan card is not supported by default...
[10:50] <Bombon> how to enable it
[10:50] <Bombon> how to make it supported
[10:50] <Bombon> tell me
[10:50] <chemist^> Bombon, reboot into windows if you have dual boot and enable it either with a hardware button on your laptop or whitin windows...then restart the computer back to ubuntu and it should work
[10:50] <joeri_> there is somewhere a button to enable it
[10:50] <k1l_> Bombon: please pastebin the output of "rfkill list"
[10:51] <Bombon> chemist^ im using windows nd ubuntu at same time.. im using portable ubuntu 8.04
[10:51] <Bombon> where u can run both os in same desktop
[10:51] <chemist^> what does that mean... virtual machine?
[10:51] <k1l_> Bombon: urgs, 8.04 is way too old
[10:52] <chemist^> i have no experience with that...but yes as k1l_ suggests...try installing a newer version, maybe the drivers are available in newer releases
[10:52] <k1l_> Bombon: 8.04 is from 2008 and the chances are high, that it will not support modern wifi chips
[10:52] <Bombon> u sure?
[10:52] <k1l_> i sure
[10:52] <k1l_> Bombon: besides 8.04 is not supported anymore
[10:53] <Bombon> so tell me how do i put whole new ubuntu in my 4 gb flash drive and run from flash drive
[10:53] <chemist^> !usb
[10:53] <chemist^> !usb | Bombon
[10:54] <chemist^> Bombon, see the second link, USB installation with persistence (so you can save files and configurations)
[10:54] <goog> How can I attempt to copy A to B with two requirements: 1) copy only if A exists, 2) always return exit status 0
[10:55] <Bombon> how do u open device manager in ubuntu
[10:55] <Bombon> from terminal
[10:55] <chemist^> Bombon you can type in lspci
[10:55] <chemist^> or lsusb for listing usb devices
[10:56] <chemist^> and lshw to display all hardware
[10:56] <chemist^> maybe you'll need to use the sudo command, not sure
[10:56] <Bombon> lsusb doesnt show anything
[10:57] <k1l_> Bombon: what are you trying to do now?
[10:57] <Bombon> im trying to check if my wifi chip is supported in this version of ubuntu
[10:57] <Bombon> cause u know it will take too much time to install a new ubuntu
[10:57] <chemist^> Bombon, lspci if you have an integrated wifi card
[10:57] <k1l_> lspci or lsusb should show it
[10:57] <Anonissimus> Having a permission issue it seems, I can read and write to a folder, however a service that is running under my account can not
[10:58] <chemist^> Bombon, it really doesn't take that long with newer installs
[10:58] <chemist^> Bombon, specially if you install it on a usb
[10:58] <k1l_> Bombon: but be aware, that 8.04 is way out of support. it has  huge security issues and doesnt get updates since some time
[10:58] <Bombon> k1l_ another problem is i use internet from a usb dongle device.. and that is not supported in ubuntu
[10:59] <Bombon> so u know im in complicated situation
[10:59] <chemist^> Anonissimus, a little more info please? :)
[10:59] <k1l_> Bombon: that is even more a reason for a newer ubuntu
[10:59] <chemist^> Bombon, definitely see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[11:00] <Anonissimus> chemist^: not too sure where to start, if a different user creates a folder then I do have sufficient permissions when accessing it through bash
[11:00] <Bombon> how big is the file
[11:00] <Anonissimus> however the service I run does not have sufficient access
[11:00] <chemist^> Bombon, it will take less time to install a new release of ubuntu to an USB then it is taking you to ask questions here :)
[11:01] <Anonissimus> when I chown to myself then the service can access it
[11:01] <Anonissimus> this is an indexer running on java
[11:01] <Anonissimus> for what that is worth
[11:01] <chemist^> Anonissimus, did you create the folder while being logged in as root?
[11:02] <Bombon> ok
[11:02] <Anonissimus> chemist^: no, folders were created by anotehr user on the system who is in the same groups as I am
[11:02] <kaczmar> hello guys i am new user of ubuntu and i have problem. i changed name of folder and my desktop now is my main folder
[11:02] <kaczmar> hot to change it back?
[11:02] <kaczmar> how*
[11:03] <chemist^> Anonissimus, well log in as root an change the permissions of that folder to your group
[11:03] <Anonissimus> chemist^: drwxrwsr-x 4 otheruser group1 is what I get for ls -lart
[11:03] <Anonissimus> I am in the same group
[11:03] <k1l_> chemist^: no login as root on ubuntu
[11:03] <k1l_> !root | chemist^
[11:04] <Anonissimus> also this is on an nfs mount
[11:04] <chemist^> k1l_, my english is not that good, i wanted to say you escalate your permissions... or how's it said :D
[11:05] <chemist^> but i don't know the exact words so i just say login as root :P
[11:05] <chemist^> kaczmar, why did you rename your home folder?
[11:05] <chemist^> :)
[11:06] <k1l_> well, login as root is worse. using sudo is better. but be aware not to use sudo in the wrong situations
[11:06] <kaczmar> it was mistake i was training my skill of terminal and mv command
[11:07] <nearst> !sudo | kaczmar
[11:07] <goog> Question: How do you copy or rsync by ignoring error and always return exit code 0?
[11:07] <sushant91265> ~sushant91265
[11:07] <sushant91265> new in ubuntu, how to install playLinux in ubuntu 12.04
[11:08] <kaczmar> so nobody will help me?
[11:08] <k1l_> !playonlinux | sushant91265
[11:08] <sushant91265> yes that what m trying
[11:08] <chemist^> kaczmar, have you tried renaming it back?
[11:08] <k1l_> kaczmar: what folder did you rename
[11:09] <k1l_> sushant91265: see http://www.playonlinux.com/en/
[11:09] <kaczmar> yes i tried
[11:09] <chemist^> sushant91265, www.playonlinux.com
[11:09] <kaczmar> i rename it back
[11:09] <sushant91265> thanks but couldnt find usefull
[11:09] <kaczmar> folder of desktop
[11:09] <sushant91265> anyway thanks
[11:09] <chemist^> lol?
[11:10] <chemist^> he couldn't find it usefull to have instructions on how to install it on ubuntu :P
[11:10] <kaczmar> i dont know what in english is word but in polish is Pulpit
[11:10] <kaczmar> so i think it is Desktop
[11:10] <chemist^> we're not polish so...that doesn't really help
[11:11] <kaczmar> so it is folder of my main screen
[11:11] <Bombon> hey will ubuntu 13.04 live fit in my 4gb flash drive?
[11:11] <Bombon> chemist^ k1l_ ?
[11:12] <k1l_> kaczmar: does this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/116276/how-to-set-the-desktop-to-home-desktop
[11:12] <chemist^> Bombon, yes
[11:12] <chemist^> Bombon, i would use 12.04 since it's LTS
[11:12] <k1l_> Bombon: go with 13.10
[11:12] <k1l_> Bombon: 13.04 loses support at end of january
[11:12] <Bombon> should i download 12.04
[11:12] <chemist^> kaczmar, first what you need to do is rename it back to exactly what it was
[11:12] <k1l_> or 12.04, which got support until 2017
[11:13] <Bombon> then 12.04
[11:13] <chemist^> kaczmar, then... try doing this: chown -R ${SUDO_USER}:${SUDO_USER} /home/<correct name>
[11:13] <chemist^> and:
[11:13] <chemist^> chmod 750 -R /home/<correct name>
[11:13] <k1l_> chemist^: no, he needs to set the config files, like stated in my link
[11:13] <chemist^> kaczmar, then try to reboot and see if your issue is gone
[11:14] <chemist^> k1l_, sorry did not see your post
[11:14] <kaczmar> yeah that is what i need. this link is correct
[11:14] <kaczmar> i hope it help
[11:14] <kaczmar> thank you
[11:14] <Bombon> its bigger and will take 3 fuken hours
[11:14] <chemist^> kaczmar, try it out and let us know :P
[11:15] <geirha> do NOT run   chmod 750 -R   on your homedir
[11:15] <kaczmar> ok i will come back here when i try
[11:15] <kaczmar> thanks anyway
 Bombon, i would use 12.04 since it's LTS
[11:16] <Calinou> outdated stuff
[11:16] <chemist^> ?
[11:16] <geirha> making all files in your homedir executable is crazy at best
[11:16] <chemist^> like what?
[11:16] <Calinou> almost all packages are outdated. the end
[11:17] <enchilado> Won't 14.04 be LTS?
[11:17] <k1l_> Calinou: you know about point releases and the enablement stack? and some packages get updates or are patched
[11:17] <chemist^> Calinou, i have no issues with what i use my desktop computer for...so it's not that much of a problem
[11:17] <k1l_> enchilado: it will be LTS
[11:18] <chemist^> and i believe it's not that much outdated
[11:18] <chemist^> i use 12.04.3 i believe
[11:18] <Calinou> k1l_, only kernel and web browser
[11:18] <Calinou> pretty much
[11:18] <Calinou> chemist^, 2 years is quite an eternity :P
[11:18] <k1l_> Calinou: not everyone needs the bleeding edge. just think about it
[11:19] <Calinou> suddenly: software developers whine at you for using outdated stuff.
[11:19] <Calinou> you end up not being able to use some software at all
[11:20] <chemist^> well maybe i don't need such software
[11:20] <chemist^> for what i need the ubuntu version i've got it's more than enough :)
[11:20] <k1l_> Calinou: you are overacting a lot
[11:20] <ikonia> what a surprise
[11:21] <chemist^> :) k1l_ he's scaring me :D is my ubuntu that much out of date? :)
[11:21] <ikonia> chemist^: there is no need to be concerned
[11:21] <ikonia> chemist^: do you actually have a problem with your current ubuntu 12.04 install ? or is this a new install ?
[11:22] <nearst> i still got my karmic running. no problem so far :P
[11:22] <chemist^> Calinou, lol...stop sending me private msgs
[11:22] <Calinou> that's EOL, nearst
[11:22] <chemist^> Calinou, i am not a LTS fanboy, as you assume
[11:22] <Calinou> chemist^, a notice then
[11:22] <chemist^> ikonia, no problems whatsoeverr
[11:23] <ikonia> chemist^: ok, so you're running 12.04
[11:23] <Tastkey> Hi guys. I have a problem: I'm trying to do rsync over ssh, but each time I use rsync I'm asked for the user-password even though I added the public-key into the "authorized_keys"-file on the source-system.
[11:23] <chemist^> 12.04.3 i believe
[11:23] <ikonia> chemist^: is that correct ?
[11:23] <chemist^> i don't know :P
[11:24] <chemist^> what's the terminal command for looking it up? can't remember
[11:24] <ikonia> chemist^: ok - lsb_release -a
[11:24] <ikonia> chemist^: lets see where you are and then hopefully remove any concerns you have or fix any real issues you may run into
[11:24] <chemist^> 12.04.4 LTS :P
[11:24] <ikonia> chemist^: fantastic, so you are totally up to date on the 12.04 release branch
[11:24] <chemist^> i have no issues...
[11:24] <ikonia> chemist^: in that case, sleep easy
[11:24] <chemist^> every hardware component i own works like it should
[11:25] <chemist^> and every software i try also...so no problems whatsoever
[11:25] <ikonia> chemist^: then use it with confidence, just keep up to date with when the support cycle for 12.04 ends and plan an upgrade/new install to the next supported release before then
[11:25] <chemist^> i would get the newest release installed if i didn't have a lot of stuff on my computer (unfinished music projects)
[11:26] <chemist^> that is mainly the reason i chose to use lts, so i'd get updates for a couple of years
[11:26] <ikonia> chemist^: then you have picked the right product - use it with confidence
[11:26] <chemist^> and wouldn't need to format my partition
[11:26] <Tastkey> Is there anyone who can help me?
[11:26] <lid6j86> i'm running xubuntu with multiple monitors.  I'm trying to set them up in the correct position but it's really difficult because all of the monitors have the same name, so i can't tell which monitor i'm trying to place the current one in relation to.  How can I change the name of each monitor to give them a unique identifier?
[11:27] <nearst> !ask | Tastkey
[11:27] <chemist^> ikonia, thank you very much for the info :)
[11:27] <ikonia> chemist^: no problem, sorry for the confusion earlier
[11:27] <chemist^> no problem :)
[11:29] <chemist^> Tastkey, you need to disable password authentication
[11:30] <chemist^> Tastkey, the file should be in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:30] <chemist^> there should be a line saying: PasswordAuthentication yes
[11:30] <chemist^> change that "yes" to "no"
[11:31] <repozitor> how to retrieve source code of ip command?
[11:31] <chemist^> also make sure you have this line: PubkeyAuthentication yes
[11:31] <chemist^> Tastkey and then reload your ssh
[11:31] <chemist^> Tastkey, like so: /etc/init.d/sshd reload
[11:32] <glitsj16> lid6j86: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-use-multiple-monitors-in-xubuntu.html might be helpfull if you haven't seen it already
[11:33] <rcw2> i want to get built-essential package off a flash drive for a computer with no internet. this link is some years old: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3576/how-to-make-usb-drive-as-local-repository  is it easier to copy the contents of the install disk to the main harddrive and point there or go this other route with dpkg-scanpackages binary /dev/null | gzip -9c > binary/Packages.gz
[11:33] <rcw2> build-essential*
[11:33] <lid6j86> glitsj16, not having a problem extending, only with identifying the monitors.  i just need to change the names of each monitor so they have a unique identifier
[11:33] <lid6j86> glitsj16, problem is when i'm setting a monitor "above" "below" "left of" or "right of" another monitor, they all have the same name so it's impossible to know which one i'm setting it in relation to
[11:35] <rcw2> can i use 'deb file:/media/(drive name)
[11:35] <rcw2> '
[11:35] <glitsj16> lid6j86: i understand, but i don't know how to name them uniquely
[11:35] <lid6j86> glitsj16, i see, thanks
[11:36] <lid6j86> glitsj16, actually, that link might have given me an indirect answer... looks like arandr might help me graphically position them, appreciate the help
[11:38] <glitsj16> lid6j86: no problem, or you could use the graphics driver's native config tool to set things up, like nvidia-settings or the amd equivalent
[11:38] <lid6j86> glitsj16, running through virtual box, so i dont have that option
[11:45] <b0x> is there a good alternative to the unity sidebar?
[11:45] <b0x> with autohide
[11:46] <chemist^> b0x many
[11:47] <glitsj16> b0x: the unity launcher can also be set to autohide fyi
[11:50] <mat_64> Hi, I'm looking for a software tool to use my laptop, Ubuntu equipped, camera as barcode-/QRcode reader.
[11:52] <b0x> yeah ive got it on autohide
[11:52] <b0x> i just think its a bit tacky :p
[11:52] <b0x> any suggestions?
[11:58] <glitsj16> b0x: it's pretty much a personal preference, but i always liked cairo-dock
[11:59] <dr0p> hello, how can I determine time of establishing connection with address ? I don't want do get time of whole get request
[12:02] <Pici> dr0p: In regards to what?
[12:03] <Tastkey> Can someone explain me this problem: I've to connect to a server via ssh with the public-key of the user "user1". But When I do "sudo ssh -u 'user1'.." then I'm asked for the "user1"s password. How can I fix that?
[12:03] <glitsj16> mat_64: qtqr works with webcam, possibly others .. do a search in software center
[12:04] <Pici> Tastkey: Why are you ssh-ing using sudo? What are you trying to accomplish?
[12:05] <mat_64> glitsj16: I couldn't find any there, I will try qtqr
[12:05] <TheFuzzb_> Hi, I have an upstart script that won't run (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6750052/), and in /var/log/upstart/app.log I get "not found fd/9: 11: /proc/self/fd/9"
[12:05] <dr0p> Pici, to test db. I want to check how many threads can establish connection to my db. I'm getting only 2connections /s to my MongodB (which is sick) and I can't find the reason.
[12:05] <TheFuzzb_> Has anybody seen this error and know what it means?
[12:06] <Tastkey> Pici: I'm doing "sudo myscript.sh" which then uses rsync which connects via ssh.
[12:06] <mat_64> glitsj16: will it also work for EAN barcodes?
[12:07] <Pici> Tastkey: you'd need user1's private key to exist in /root/.ssh then. You might need to specify the key explicitly using the -i argument as well.
[12:07] <glitsj16> mat_64: zbar-tools probably does those better, but is a commandline tool
[12:08] <Tastkey> Pici "-i" option doesn't help, as ssh asks for user1's password
[12:08] <glitsj16> mat_64: try i'd say, qtqr has very few dependencies so it shouldn't be hard to test and remove if it doesn't suit your needs
[12:09] <mat_64> glitsj16: tnx, if it doesn't do the job I will take an other look.
[12:10] <glitsj16> mat_64: no problem, there's always options in linux :)
[12:10] <Pici> Tastkey: So, you have a passwordless ssh key created and it doesn't seem to be working? Does it work properly if user1 tries to ssh into the server?
[12:11] <xreal> Is there a free SFTP v6 server for ubuntu?
[12:13] <chemist^> !sftp | xreal
[12:13] <xreal> !sshd
[12:13] <xreal> chemist^: so there is none ?
[12:14] <xreal> OpenSSH implents v3 only.
[12:14] <chemist^> i don't know honestly about v6, never used it
[12:14] <xreal> it is REALL interesting.
[12:14] <xreal> really*
[12:14] <chemist^> why
[12:14] <xreal> ah! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_SSH_servers
[12:15] <xreal> chemist^: http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/sftp/sftpversions.html
[12:15] <newuser> hey guys please tell me pdf to word converter for ubuntu :)
[12:16] <Tastkey> Pici: Yes, when user1 tries to connect it works perfectly.
[12:16] <chemist^> xreal, well ok, i don't need all that stuff
[12:16] <xreal> chemist^: separate ACCESSTIME and MODIFYTIME is great.
[12:17] <chemist^> newuser you could do that on google docs
[12:17] <p2ivate> should there be a system tray in ubuntu 13.10
[12:17] <glitsj16> xreal: there's gesftpserver, still considered experimental but offers v6 ...
[12:17] <p2ivate> skype is active but i cant access it
[12:17] <Pici> xreal: Oddly enough, I think you're right.
[12:17] <p2ivate> ./find it
[12:17] <chemist^> p2ivate, just type skype in your dash/home
[12:18] <newuser> chemist^:ok ty :)
[12:18] <chemist^> p2ivate, do you use unity?
[12:18] <xreal> glitsj16: experimental? v6 has been relesed 2006 :)
[12:18] <p2ivate> chemist^, i dont know
[12:18] <p2ivate> chemist^, dash only lets me open another instance
[12:18] <chemist^> p2ivate, do you have that panel on the left of your screen?
[12:18] <p2ivate> yeah
[12:18] <glitsj16> xreal: that's what the package info says in the regular repos ... PPA might offer later versions
[12:18] <p2ivate> chemist^, yeah
[12:19] <chemist^> p2ivate, then you should see the icon of skype there... if it's running
[12:19] <xreal> glitsj16: but thanks :)
[12:19] <p2ivate> chemist^, hmmm it isn't : / but it should be because im getting bottom right notifications from skype
[12:20] <glitsj16> xreal: you're welcome
[12:20] <chemist^> p2ivate, http://askubuntu.com/questions/293674/tray-icons-in-unity-in-13-04
[12:21] <chemist^> p2ivate, you could either do it with a terminal command: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"
[12:21] <chemist^> to show all the systray icons
[12:22] <Pici> Tastkey: That should work...
[12:22] <chemist^> or use a GUI that helps you select which ones you want the tray to show... it's called dconf-tools
[12:22] <chemist^> p2ivate
[12:22] <fishcooker> i have doc document .. i want to print from ubuntu command line ?
[12:22] <p2ivate> chemist^, ok
[12:23] <Tastkey> Pici: The problem is that the shellscript is executed as root.
[12:23] <Pici> Tastkey: Does it need to be?
[12:23] <Tastkey> Pici: yes
[12:23] <chemist^> p2ivate try the command i pasted to you and tell me if it works
[12:23] <fishcooker> how to do that.. or should i convert it to pdf first?
[12:23] <chemist^> p2ivate, the command is: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']"
[12:24] <Tastkey> Pici: The shellscript is executed as root and "sudo -u 'user'" doesn't solve the problem. So I'm really lost.
[12:24] <p2ivate> chemist^, No such schema 'com.canonical.Unity.Panel'
[12:25] <chemist^> p2ivate: sudo apt-get install dconf-tools
[12:25] <Pici> Tastkey: I just tested it myself localaly and I didn't have any problems.  You used the -i argument to ssh right? not to sudo.
[12:25] <glitsj16> chemist^: p2ivate: 13.10 took that option away .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/362135/how-to-re-enable-tray-icons-for-applications-in-ubuntu-13-10 has more info
[12:25] <chemist^> oh ok, did not know that, sorry... p2ivate check you glitsj16's link
[12:26] <glitsj16> chemist^: quite allright
[12:26] <Tastkey> I used "sudo rsync -avzue ssh -i /home/user1/.ssh/id_rsa.pub". I'm always asked for user1's password.
[12:27] <TJ-> Tastkey: Loose the ".pub" suffix ... you need the private key, not the public
[12:27] <Pici> TJ-: nice catch
[12:27] <TJ-> Pici: Been there, done that :p
[12:27] <Tastkey> TJ-: then I get the error "rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at main.c(1232) [sender=3.0.9]"
[12:29] <chemist^> Tastkey, and i told you to look at your ssh config file ... it must have the line "PasswordAuthentication no" and "PubkeyAuthentication yes" ... then reload your sshd: /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[12:29] <chemist^> have you tried looking into that?
[12:29] <fishcooker> i have doc document .. i want to print from ubuntu command line .. should i convert to pdf first?
[12:30] <Pici> chemist^: it doesn't need that for key based auth to work.
[12:31] <chemist^> Pici, shouldn't he disable the password auth?
[12:31] <chemist^> Pici, i thought his issue was that it was still asking him for a password
[12:31] <chemist^> instead of just auth with the key
[12:32] <TJ-> Tastkey: I assume there are additional arguments on that command-line - the source and destination paths?
[12:32] <Tastkey> chemist^: Yeah you're right. It asks me for password, instead of the existing key.
[12:32] <Pici> chemist^: The problem is that it was asking for a password instead of asking for key password.  Keys should have priority over user passwords.
[12:32] <TJ-> chemist^: There will be a password prompt (unless passwords are disabled) if all keys fail
[12:33] <TJ-> chemist^: You can see the sequence using "ssh -vvv ...."
[12:33] <chemist^> so there's something wrong with his keys?
[12:33] <TJ-> chemist^: No... there's something wrong on the final command-line, which we need to see
[12:33] <chemist^> :)
[12:33] <Tastkey> TJ-: ok. I'm posting it. wait a second please
[12:34] <TJ-> Tastkey: Are there env vars on the line? If so prefix the line with "eval" - as in  "eval rsync ..."
[12:34] <WhatDoIDoNow> What's going to happen if I type:
[12:34] <WhatDoIDoNow> cd /; sudo find -type f -exec shred -fzu '{}' \;
[12:34] <WhatDoIDoNow> ?
[12:35] <Tastkey> sudo rsync -avzue ssh -i /home/user1/.ssh/id_rsa user1@server:/home/user1/new_projects/install_puppetmaster/install_puppetmaster_step1.sh /home/user1/install_puppetmaster_step1.sh
[12:36] <TJ-> Tastkey: You can't use "...ssh -i path ..." on the rsync command-line... "-i" is an rsync option and being interpreted thus
[12:36] <Pici> WhatDoIDoNow: It will attempt to shred (read: delete) every file under /.
[12:37] <Tastkey> TJ-: But I've to use that public key in order to connect to the server. So what sould I do?
[12:37] <TJ-> You add an entry into root's "/root/.ssh/config"
[12:37] <Tastkey> TJ-: Do you mean the private and public-key?
[12:37] <hitsujiTMO> Tastkey: maybe add -- before ssh if rsync accepts that?
[12:38] <WhatDoIDoNow> Pici: Ah. So I guess I'd better not type it, right?
[12:38] <Tastkey> hitsujiTMO: It doesn't accept that.
[12:38] <AlexDSX> Hey, can anyone recommend a good UK hosting company?
[12:38] <Pici> WhatDoIDoNow: I wouldn't,.
[12:38] <TJ-> Tastkey: Add something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6750217/
[12:38] <Pici> AlexDSX: Probably someone in #ubuntu-uk
[12:38] <WhatDoIDoNow> k
[12:38] <k1l_> AlexDSX: better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:38] <AlexDSX> Thank you. :)
[12:39] <WhatDoIDoNow> thx
[12:39] <Tastkey> Ok. I'm trying now.
[12:40] <TJ-> AlexDSX: depends on what kind of hosting; Linode have a London presence
[12:43] <Tastkey> TJ-: I'm still asked for the password for the private key
[12:44] <greenDaron> Cześć wszystkim ;)
[12:44] <TJ-> Tastkey: password "for" the private key? or password *instead* of the private key?
[12:45] <Tastkey> TJ-: I'm asked for the "passphrase" for id_rsa (private-key)
[12:46] <TJ-> Tastkey: have you published user1's public key to the server's user1 account?
[12:46] <k1l_> !cz | greenDaron
[12:47] <Tastkey> Yes I did.
[12:47] <Pici> Tastkey: That sounds normal. What were you expecting?
[12:47] <TJ-> Tastkey: OK... so give it... if you want that not to happen you'll have to remove the passphrase from that key, or else create an additional key just for this rsync job
[12:47] <k1l_> !pl | greenDaron sorry
[12:49] <Bombon> do u ppl speak polish here
[12:49] <hitsujiTMO> !pl | Bombon
[12:50] <greenDaron> xD
[12:52] <Bombon> my ubuntu is still downloading
[12:52] <Bombon> holy catfish i live in Bangladesh
[12:53]  * TJ- thought it was the cattle that were holy?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> Bombon, torrents are probably faster - and more reliable..
[12:54] <Bombon> im using idm
[12:54] <Bombon> i get the same speed
[12:55] <Bombon> i m stuck into xp, cause its super fast.. and i love ubuntu coz its good
[12:55] <Bombon> but i cant use ubuntu cause it makes my laptop slow
[12:55] <Bombon> :(
[12:55] <Bombon> the trade off is too much for me
[12:55] <Bombon> sigh
[12:55] <cfhowlett> Bombon, lubuntu and xubuntu are optimized for older / lower specification machines
[12:56] <Anonissimus> still stuck on my permission issue, whenever I do an ls of a symlinked folder I get permission denied
[12:56] <Anonissimus> even tho I have access to the path
[12:56] <ezra-s> Bombon, you can always use something else than default de if you feel the default is slow for you
[12:56] <fishcooker> i have doc document .. i want to print from ubuntu command line .. should i convert to pdf first?
[12:56] <Anonissimus> and permissions on the symlink are 777
[12:56] <Bombon> yeah but they sucks big time
[12:57] <ezra-s> Anonissimus, permissions on a symlink are always 777
[12:57] <Anonissimus> ezra-s: then why do I get permission denied when doing ls symlink
[12:57] <ezra-s> Anonissimus, what's importat are the permissions to where the symlink points
[12:57] <enbergj> I'm trying to automate installation of some packages that seem to depend on postfix, when I run "apt-get install -y package" from inside a script it still gets stuck in some stupid postfix configuration screen, I can see the dialog in ps .. how do I really tell it to install with the default options when -y doesn't seem to be enough?
[12:58] <Anonissimus> ezra-s: well my user can do a symlink of the location where it points to
[12:58] <ezra-s> Anonissimus, an open bridge does not mean you can reach the other side if the other end is "closed"
[12:58] <ezra-s> Anonissimus, being able to make a symlink is one think, being able to go in there is different
[12:58] <ezra-s> Anonissimus, try to "cd" to the real dir
[12:58] <ezra-s> see if you can access
[12:59] <Anonissimus> ezra-s: works
[12:59] <Anonissimus> I can cd to the canonical path, but not to the symlink
[12:59] <Anonissimus> however if I create a symlink with my account that works fine
[12:59] <ezra-s> do ls -l of both
[13:00] <ezra-s> paste here or a sensible paste bin
[13:00] <hitsujiTMO> Anonissimus: pastebin ls -ld of both paths please
[13:00] <actionParsnip> enbergj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16225/how-can-i-accept-the-microsoft-eula-agreement-for-ttf-mscorefonts-installer   does that help
[13:01] <actionParsnip> enbergj: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12582097/automate-installation-using-bash-script-how-to-answer-dialogs-written-with-ncu
[13:03] <Anonissimus> hitsujiTMO: ezra-s http://pastebin.com/QxJ4Xgmm
[13:04] <enbergj> thanks, that sort of helps .. the first one more specifically .. but it says -q helps, and then it says if running in scripts but then you need to pre-set the option .. and doesn't say how to figure out what the option is called
[13:05] <ezra-s> Anonissimus, type "id" and paste the result here
[13:07] <Anonissimus> ezra-s: uid=3254(anonissimus) gid=3254(anonissimus) groups=3254(anonissimus),117(admin),5110(testgroup),7010(group1)
[13:08] <ezra-s> Anonissimus, did you notice permissions for group1 are rws ?
[13:11] <hitsujiTMO> ezra-s: g+s wouldn't prevent him from executing a dir
[13:14] <Anonissimus> so I need to unset that s?
[13:14] <hayig2000> hi there, Should i install vbox guest additions in a freshly installed guest ubuntu?
[13:14] <hitsujiTMO> Anonissimus: no dont. thats there for the group
[13:15] <k1l_> hayig2000: didnt we solve that issue already?
[13:15] <Anonissimus> hitsujiTMO: ok, any suggestions on how to resolve this, I am stumped here
[13:16] <hayig2000> i dont understand
[13:16] <hitsujiTMO> Anonissimus: there's nothing obvious there. I'd presume its something else indirectly causing the issue
[13:16] <actionParsnip> hayig2000: if you need them, yes
[13:16] <k1l_> hayig2000: yes install that guest additions from the ubuntu repo
[13:16] <actionParsnip> hayig2000: if the OS is acting as needed, why fix it?
[13:17] <glitsj16> enbergj: http://xmodulo.com/2012/11/how-to-install-software-packages-in-non-interactive-batch-mode.html might be helpfull too
[13:17] <hitsujiTMO> Anonissimus: so ls -l /mnt/folder1/140113-000020gm = permission denied right? is it the same with /mnt/folder1 ?
[13:18] <hayig2000> ok thanks
[13:18] <Anonissimus> hitsujiTMO: correct , no I can ls /mnt/folder1
[13:18] <hayig2000> the OS IS acting as needed
[13:19] <actionParsnip> hayig2000: then no, I wouldn't bother. DOn't fix what ain't broke
[13:20] <hayig2000> ok
[13:20] <enbergj> glitsj16: thanks, based on these links I've now got "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install -y -q package" .. hope that is enough
[13:21] <T4b> That stupid journaling process (jbd2/sde2-8) was working yesterday before I went to bed, in the morning when I woke up and now after I've gotten home from work it's still torturing my ext4 / hard drive. I don't know whether it was working all the time in between, but I assume so. This can't be normal, can it?
[13:21] <TJ-> Anonissimus: As the paths are prefixed "/mnt/" can we assume these are mounted file-systems, possibly NFS?
[13:21] <Anonissimus> hitsujiTMO: /mnt/folder2 is an nfs share if that matter?
[13:21] <Anonissimus> TJ you read my mind
[13:21] <TJ-> Anonissimus: There you go then; its the NFS permissions on the share
[13:22] <Anonissimus> ok, so I need to have nfs permissions?
[13:22] <glitsj16> enbergj: no problem, you might want to confirm in #ubuntu-server
[13:22] <Anonissimus> is there a way I can map nfs permissions to a local account?
[13:22] <gregor3005> hi, does anybody use the openchrome driver? the latest available in ubuntu 13.10 produces a error and black screen + the offical openchrome homepage is damaged http://www.openchrome.org/
[13:23] <TJ-> Anonissimus: ensure "/etc/idmap.conf" is configured correctly on the client... but mostly its a case of setting the correct NFS export options in the target's "/etc/exports"
[13:23] <actionParsnip> gregor3005: the only way I have seen those work is to use an xorg.conf file (old school)
[13:24] <Anonissimus> TJ-: no /etc/exports
[13:24] <geirha> Anonissimus: /etc/exports is on the nfs server side
[13:25] <Anonissimus> my bad
[13:25] <TJ-> Anonissimus: Well, the "target" is the NFS server
[13:25] <Anonissimus> that is out of my control
[13:25] <gregor3005> actionParsnip: ah that can be a solution. thx i forget that xorg.conf :-) maybe because i have to much bad dreams the last years with xorg.conf
[13:25] <mammuth> #kubuntu
[13:25] <Anonissimus> if I change the ownership of any file to my account I do have access
[13:26] <Anonissimus> it would be a workable workaround to on symlink creation just chown to my account
[13:26] <Anonissimus> any suggestions on how to achieve this?
[13:26] <actionParsnip> gregor3005: its a painful time, but nice when you get it right :)
[13:31] <Anonissimus> TJ-: any feedback on that?
[13:32] <TJ-> Anonissimus: Yes - delve into the horrors of NFS uid handling :D
[13:33] <Anonissimus> TJ-: I will leave that to the pro's in charge of the nfs part, I just need this to work ... badly
[13:44] <T0rFect> hi
[13:45] <T0rFect> -_-
[13:50] <geppo> hello
[13:50] <cfhowlett> geppo, greetings
[13:52] <tim__^> Hi all, can't seem to login anymore. Got an apparmor message: http://pastebin.com/QcESQnp5
[13:53] <root____> oi
[13:53] <root____> hi
[13:53] <root____> hi
[13:53] <FloodBot1> root____: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:53] <k1l_> !rootirc > root____
[13:53] <geppo> Updating ubuntu 12.04 , I get the signal;come eliniare W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch  ( how to eliminate it?  )
[13:55] <pkillpeers> hey guys, need a reccomenation. a twitter client that supports lists?
[13:55] <pkillpeers> tried turpial and polly. cant seem to find any option to show lists
[13:56] <geppo> Updating ubuntu 12.04 , I get the signal;come eliniare W:Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch  ( how to eliminate it?
[13:58] <pkillpeers> geppo , have you tried: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997508
[13:59] <geppo> pkillpeers,  helli
[14:00] <geppo> pkillpeers,   I try now
[14:07] <geppo> pkillpeers,    thanks solved
[14:07] <geppo> pkillpeers,   thanks solved
[14:09] <pkillpeers> :)
[14:15] <renan_saddam> I am running PHP 5.5.7 installed on Ubuntu 12.04 with ondrej/php5 PPA. When I do `service php5-fpm reload` it kills the master proccess but leave child processes running. Consecutive calls to reload says "Unknown instance". Then I have to manually kill chil proccesses to be able to start again. Any ideas how to solve this?
[14:17] <renan_saddam> Seems like updating to upstart 1.5+ (implemented reload signal) should solve it.
[14:19] <somsip> !ppa | renan_saddam
[14:23] <DEA7TH> After modifying fstab to give me permissions on my Windows 7 (NTFS) drive, the Windows doesn't work anymore
[14:24] <devbox> test
[14:24] <Blue_> Has the recent update for Ubuntu 10.04 caused network problems for anyone else but me? I thought maybe my netcard broke, so I tried two other netcards, but same problem.
[14:25] <Blue_> Then I tried booting from a DVD with Ubuntu 13.04, and network don't work there either. What do you think? Hardware problem, right?
[14:25] <renan_saddam> I am running Ubuntu 12.04, which has upstart 1.5. How safe would it be to upgrade upstart version to 1.11 (latest)?
[14:26] <actionParsnip> renan_saddam: a PPA maybe....
[14:26] <trijntje> devbox: looks like its working ;)
[14:26] <actionParsnip> BlueShark: possibly, try a non debian based distro to test, something like OpenSUSE etc....
[14:27] <trijntje> DEA7TH: you mean windows doesn't boot anymore? That can't be caused by fstab since thats not even used when you boot windows
[14:27] <renan_saddam> actionParsnip: Found one already (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart). But do you know if this package breaks any BC?
[14:28] <DEA7TH> trijntje: I changed the settings for the drive on which the Windows resides. Then I unmounted and remounted it
[14:28] <actionParsnip> renan_saddam: not sure, all I can say is take a snapshot or backup, then do it
[14:28] <devbox> trijntje: WHoo
[14:28] <DEA7TH> I remounted it under a different name and directory, if that matters
[14:28] <renan_saddam> thanks actionParsnip
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> renan_saddam: thats not a ppa
[14:29] <renan_saddam> hitsujiTMO: indeed wrong link. Should be this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~upstart-devel/+archive/upstart-daily-build
[14:29] <denker> hello, what is the command to change owner of a folder using uid?
[14:29] <devbox> I would like to setup a perminate device tree overlay. Is there anyone in here who could help ?
[14:29] <trijntje> DEA7TH: should'nt matter, but what do you mean with "the windows doesn't work anymore"
[14:30] <DEA7TH> trijntje: It doesn't load, just a blank desktop with a movable mouse pointer, clicking the mouse or keyboard doesn't do anything
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> DEA7TH: """ I changed the settings for the drive on which the Windows resides.""" what exactly do you mean by this?
[14:31] <trijntje> DEA7TH: I'm sure thats not related to changing fstab in ubuntu, maybe you can ask for help in #windows
[14:32] <notwist> DEA7TH: unless you give a LOT more information containing specifics on what you've done, noone will be able to help you
[14:32] <mcc> how do u play games like starcraft
[14:32] <mcc> like from torrent
[14:33] <notwist> mcc: starcraft does not have a linux version.
[14:33] <DEA7TH> hitsujiTMO: I have two hard drives, one of them has Ubuntu 13, the other - Windows 7. I wanted to store stuff on the Windows drive because it has 2 TB space, but in order to execute stuff from there, I had to change fstab, unmount and re-mount
[14:33] <actionParsnip> renan_saddam: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=upstart    look in those, make sure you filter for your release
[14:33] <notwist> mcc: it might be possible to run through wine
[14:33] <mcc> kool
[14:33] <notwist> DEA7TH: You want to dual boot but still store stuff on the Windows drive?
[14:33] <DEA7TH> I also ran a .sh program from there, hopefully it wasn't doing anything which breaks NTFS or whatever
[14:34] <DEA7TH> notwist: yes, would that work?
[14:34] <hitsujiTMO> DEA7TH: ahh, just the mount options then. thats not going to effect windows at all. most likely you overwrote an important file
[14:34] <notwist> DEA7TH: mounting and unmounting shouldn't mess with Windows in any way, if Windows is suddenly not working something must have been deleted or modified on the Windows disk
[14:34] <DEA7TH> I also set chmod and chown for every single file on the Windows drive
[14:34] <actionParsnip> !appdb | mcc
[14:35] <notwist> DEA7TH: why?
[14:35] <mcc> k yall ill try wine
[14:35] <actionParsnip> DEA7TH: ntfs wont hold Linux permission, so it wont work
[14:35] <actionParsnip> DEA7TH: you need to set the permissions at mount time
[14:35] <DEA7TH> notwist: because I want to use it. Actually the only reason I have Windows is because I have 2 TB and Windows doesn't take that much
[14:35] <trijntje> DEA7TH: I'd guess the .sh you ran broke something
[14:36] <DEA7TH> actionParsnip: yeah I fixed that, it works now
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> DEA7TH: sounds like you were trying to break windows then. the guys in ##windows should be able to help you
[14:38] <trijntje> DEA7TH: can you put the .sh you ran on pastebin.com, maybe if we can see what it did we know if it could have damaged windows
[14:38] <DEA7TH> trijntje: it was from a trusted source (RubyMine), anyway isn't everything supposed to work well with my setup?
[14:38] <notwist> DEA7TH: well there's always the option to not dual boot, other than that I agree this is a Windows issue and not related to Ubuntu
[14:38] <DEA7TH> it was the executable
[14:38] <notwist> DEA7TH: If I were you I would probably, to save time, format the entire disk, set up a partition with like 50 Gb for Windows, use the rest as EXT3 storage for Linux
[14:39] <ikonia> or ext4
[14:39] <notwist> DEA7TH: the best solution here depends on why you are dual booting and how frequently you will use each OS and for what
[14:39] <notwist> which is hard to know
[14:39] <ikonia> and I'd set a lot more than 50GB for a mordern windows OS
[14:39] <DEA7TH> notwist: I agree that my setup wasn't well thought out
[14:39] <notwist> ikonia: it depends on what you'll use it for
[14:39] <DEA7TH> notwist: would that work without touching the Ubuntu drive?
[14:39] <ikonia> not really, with service packs/base apps it will take more than 50GB
[14:40] <notwist> ikonia: you are wrong.
[14:40] <notwist> DEA7TH: well, as I understood it you have to physically separate drives, one for ubuntu and one for windows
[14:40] <notwist> DEA7TH: the bigger one (windows) could be cleaned out, set up with a smaller windows partition and a larger linux storage partition
[14:41] <DEA7TH> notwist: could this be done without formatting everything first?
[14:42] <notwist> DEA7TH: you already messed up your Windows install so if you're trying to salvage it I don't understand why
[14:42] <notwist> DEA7TH: just back up whatever files you need off the windows partition and reinstall it, it's the quickest way to make it work. While you're at it, I'm suggesting you look over how much space you're allocating to each OS because you might as well fix your partitions while you're at it
[14:45] <notwist> DEA7TH: why are you dual booting to begin with?
[14:46] <DEA7TH> notwist: because I need both Linux and Windows... ?
[14:46] <notwist> why
[14:46] <philinux> notwist;~ why not if it came with the machine. You've paid for it
[14:46] <DEA7TH> because I have 2 TB and don't expect to use more than 1 TB of it
[14:46] <notwist> what do you use linux for, what do you use windows for
[14:46] <notwist> why do you need both
[14:47] <DEA7TH> I need Linux for pretty much everything, and Windows in case I need to use something which isn't available for Linux
[14:47] <philinux> notwist;~ silverlight for one is a good reason
[14:47] <taifunorkan> how to install/configure/test vsftpd? Pls help
[14:47] <DEA7TH> such as .NET applications
[14:47] <notwist> DEA7TH: any reason why you can't run Windows in Virtualbox inside Linux, or vice versa?
[14:47] <DEA7TH> I still have two more laptops which run Windows, but they are much, much slower
[14:47] <DEA7TH> notwist: is it not inconvenient and slower?
[14:47] <taifunorkan> how to install/configure/test vsftpd? pls help
[14:47] <hitsujiTMO> notwist: because he doesn't have a licence for that i would guess
[14:48] <notwist> DEA7TH: I'm writing to you from Xubuntu running in Virtualbox, it's not exactly slow
[14:48] <trijntje> taifunorkan: I'd say you'd be better of googling for that than asking here, unless you have a specific problem
[14:49] <notwist> DEA7TH: obviously it depends on why you use your OS's and for what. If you use Linux 90 % of the time and need Windows only now and then to test .NET or some other crap I don't see why Virtualbox wouldn't work, or if the stuff you do in Linux is very resource light (terminal stuff) you might as well run it in Virtualbox. The only reason you wouldn't want Linux in Virtualbox is if you want your system resources used as efficiently as possible, for Lin
[14:49] <notwist> DEA7TH: not to mention the fact that when you use Virtualbox you can switch between OS's without rebooting
[14:50] <notwist> Dual booting is almost never the best solution to running both Windows and Linux, especially not in the 90 % of cases where the use case is "I just want to learn Linux"
[14:50] <iwantoski> I use VirtualBox as containers for all different projects
[14:50] <iwantoski> (using Vagrant)
[14:51] <notwist> iwantoski: exactly. You can clone your test systems and modify them as well, another advantage over dual booting if your use case is trying stuff out
[14:51] <DEA7TH> notwist: hmmmm, can I play games via virtual Windows
[14:51] <notwist> DEA7TH: depends on the game but I wouldn't recommend it
[14:51] <notwist> DEA7TH: but why don't run Windows and then install Virtualbox with Linux? That's what I do, specifically because I want to run Windows games
[14:51] <iwantoski> DEA7TH: Vine is better than VirtualBox for games - however both are unstable and not recommended imo.
[14:52] <notwist> using two operating systems side by side on a work station is almost never the best solution, that's all I'm saying
[14:52] <notwist> non-virtualized, that is
[14:52] <hitsujiTMO> notwist: just goin to mention again that he would have to fork out more money for a new licence for windows. If dual booting works for him, then don't get on his case about it. dual booting is perfectly acceptible in a lot of circumstances
[14:52] <notwist> hitsujiTMO: not if he runs Windows non-virtually
[14:53] <DEA7TH> notwist: I find Linux more convenient and need it to be fast
[14:54] <notwist> hitsujiTMO: also isn't OEM licenses hardware bound? Why would they care if he runs it virtually or not
[14:55] <notwist> DEA7TH: I run my virtual Xubuntu with 2 Gb of RAM and 64 Mb of Video memory, it runs as smoothly as I need it to. Unless you're doing something really heavy like 3D modelling I don't see the point of requiring Linux to be non-virtual
[14:55] <hitsujiTMO> notwist: yes its bound to be directly run on the hardware. the licence doesn't allow it to be run in a vm
[14:55] <notwist> hitsujiTMO: all right, well as I said, I still think Windows with Virtualbox is a better setup than Windows and Linux dual booted for almost any use case
[14:56] <DEA7TH> notwist: I may eventually want to run applications which exploit the hardware to its fullest extent, such as machine learning or optimization algorithms
[14:56] <hitsujiTMO> !wfm | notwist whats better for you isn't best for everyone else
[14:56] <notwist> hitsujiTMO: that way you don't mess with the license at all and there's only a small amount of cases where you would need Linux perfomance above what you can get virtually
[14:56] <notwist> lol, I'm not saying it's best for me
[14:57] <notwist> DEA7TH: sure, well again it's a question of what the performance gains are. I have a feeling they're fairly small.
[14:58] <notwist> Virtualbox for example allows you to set up a VM that essentially has access to all your system resources, all of your ram, all of your cores etc. Obviously Windows in between is a bottleneck but I can't imagine it's that bad.
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> notwist: again i'm going to say this. An OEM windows licence may NOT be used in a virtual machine, even if that VM is running on the original hardware.
[14:59] <notwist> again I'm going to say that I'm talking about running Linux in a virtual machine, so thanks
[14:59] <hitsujiTMO> notwist: ahh sorry
[15:00] <jimi> My calculator app disappeared from the applications menu. Anyone know what the name of the exec for it is?
[15:00] <hitsujiTMO> jimi: gnome-calculator
[15:00] <trijntje> notwist: anyway, normal ubuntu wont run nice at all with what you gave your xubuntu
[15:00] <bsdbandit> good morning aLl
[15:00] <bsdbandit> ALL
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[15:00] <notwist> trijntje: noone said it would
[15:01] <actionParsnip> jimi: or type the sum in to Google and use google calc
[15:01] <DEA7TH> notwist: I'd probably use the Windows very seldom
[15:01] <hitsujiTMO> DEA7TH: in that case, stick to dualbooting.
[15:01] <DEA7TH> hitsujiTMO: why not Windows under a VM?
[15:01] <hitsujiTMO> DEA7TH: because you'd have to buy a new copy of windows for the VM
[15:02] <notwist> DEA7TH: as hitsujiTMO your OEM license wouldn't allow it
[15:02] <hitsujiTMO> DEA7TH: if you wanted to spend more money on a new licence you could ofc
[15:03] <notwist> Dual booting is the only way to get the most out of both operating systems, but you can only run one at a time. If you run Linux virtually inside Windows, you can run both side by side but you have a slight loss of performance for Linux. To me, it's very unlikely you'll need the extra performance gain and you're likely to run into more issues ahead with partitioning and all that stuff, but in the end it's your decision, I'm not saying I know what's b
[15:04] <notwist> One example of an annoying issue is that if you install Windows cleanly and you already have Ubuntu installed, Windows will overwrite your MBR and Ubuntu will be "invisible" until you manually install GRUB again
[15:04] <actionParsnip> notwist: you can use a lighter DE to reduce impact on the host as well as speed up the VM
[15:04] <notwist> Moving partitions or resizing them is data loss roulette so that's another thing that makes me avoid it
[15:04] <taifunorkan> Still ftp to localhost problems. I purged and reinstalled vsftp http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=518293 But no connection ????
[15:04] <trijntje> notwist: that might be true for xubuntu, but ubuntu takes a noticable performance hit when run in a VM
[15:04] <jimi> hitsujiTMO, thanks, that is perfect. How can I add it back to the applications menu?
[15:05] <notwist> trijntje: xubuntu is still ubuntu, but with another desktop environment
[15:05] <notwist> trijntje: so "ubuntu" isn't slow in a VM, Unity is
[15:05] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: An OEM Windows  can be installed in VMs provided it has a separate license (different from the license used by a host OEM install)
[15:06] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: However, if the host OEM install is removed the host/hardware OEM license is OK
[15:06] <taifunorkan> vsftpd start/running, process 13034
[15:07] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: See for reference "Can I install OEM on a virtual machine (VMware) ?" at http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/Pages/support-faq.aspx#faq2
[15:07] <trijntje> notwist: just don't tell people you can run ubuntu in a VM without noticable performance loss when you know thats not the case
[15:08] <notwist> trijntje: the fact that someone uses ubuntu does not mean they are using unity
[15:08] <notwist> trijntje: I use ubuntu server on one of my boxes for example, that's still "ubuntu"
[15:08] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: To be more specific, HIS OEM licence is bound to his hardware. If you purchase an OEM licence for a VM, the licence becomes bound to the visualised hardware. Yes you can use AN OEM licence, but not HIS licence
[15:09] <notwist> trijntje: so no, I wouldn't recommend anyone to run Ubuntu Desktop with Unity in Virtualbox, but running Ubuntu in general works just as well as running Debian or Arch Linux in a vm
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> virtualised*
[15:09] <trijntje> notwist: just try to be specific about what you mean when you are giving people advice, so people don't get the worng idea
[15:15] <actionParsnip> taifunorkan: can you not run SFTP? FTP is so archaic and not secure
[15:15] <rigo88> hi. i bought a simcard and a prepaid 1Gbyte internet on it. D1 network in germany the connection is 3g. it went fine for about 2-3 days. but it is annoying slow now. i cant do anything with it. what can cause the trouble? (no i havent used 1gb)
[15:15] <actionParsnip> rigo88: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:16] <DEA7TH> Can I split my HDD into two partitions (200 GB / 1800 GB) without formatting it if it has free space of 1900 GB?
[15:16] <actionParsnip> DEA7TH: you will need to resize the partitions, but yes
[15:16] <rigo88> uf. im not at home. but the system is an ubuntu 12.04 x64 afak..
[15:17] <notwist> DEA7TH: yep, but it's risky to resize partitions so backup anything you can't stand to lose
[15:17] <actionParsnip> rigo88: also run:  lsusb     and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[15:18] <rigo88> i have a built in 3g device. the laptop is an acer aspire one (pretty old stuff)
[15:18] <notwist> taifunorkan actionParsnip +1 for sftp if you have the option
[15:18] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: Incorrect, the license goes with the hardware. See the MS Windows 7 OEM license, secetion 3d "Use with Virtualization Technologies. Instead of using the software directly on the licensed computer, you may install and use the software within only one virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system on the licensed computer."
[15:18] <actionParsnip> rigo88: it will still show there, you can then see if it's a known issue. There may also be ways to make it faster
[15:18] <notwist> TJ-: thanks for looking it up
[15:19] <rigo88> but it went just fine for a couple of days, what can cause the slowdown?
[15:19] <TJ-> And on that note...  MS have changed the rules several times over the past couple of years... it is hard to keep up.
[15:20] <rigo88> was my first tought. did update & upgrade
[15:20] <rigo88> no luck
[15:21] <rigo88> is that possible that  after a couple of hours of 360 youtube the 1Gb is used?
[15:21] <trijntje> TJ-: thats nice to known, it might be easier to just put windows in a vm when I get a new pc rather then dualboot
[15:21] <hitsujiTMO> TJ-: yeah, used to work for a SBS partner, and things like that we got caught for with the licencing compliance
[15:22] <actionParsnip> rigo88: not sure, you could setup a logging system to see how much data is flowing to see what is used.
[15:22] <trijntje> rigo88: it wil take a lot less than that to use 1Gb when watching youtube
[15:23] <trijntje> rigo88: If the speed is just 100kbps, you can burn through 1GB internet in about 15 minutes, so you might be in for a high bill
[15:23] <hitsujiTMO> rigo88: on a 25 min bus trip i can easily go thru 250mb of YT bandwidth
[15:23] <trijntje> I'd disable the dongle for now and contact your service provider
[15:23] <rigo88> gr8 :D
[15:24] <rigo88> prepaid... so if its 0 than it is 0.. not less. but thanks. i guess i used the 1gb.
[15:29] <rigo88> the guy in the next room has also the same card. id better try out his.. anyways thanks for the suggestions!
[15:29] <virhilo> anyone see anything wrong in these log files? http://askubuntu.com/questions/405269/ubuntu-13-10-freezes-on-loading-initial-ramdisk-when-build-in-graphics-card-is
[15:33] <Flezzyfire> hi guys
[15:33] <Flezzyfire> whd
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> virhilo: if you suspect plymouth to be the cause then remove 'splash' from the grub config and try again
[15:38] <jiffe> there any vulnerabilitiesin 12.04.2 ?
[15:38] <jiffe> looks like someone got in and rooted it
[15:39] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: usually the user is the main vulnerability. How exactly have they rooted it?
[15:39] <jiffe> hitsujiTMO: no clue, they've added users though
[15:40] <chemist^> lol :)
[15:40] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: this a server or desktop?
[15:40] <jiffe> server
[15:40] <jiffe> ish
[15:40] <jiffe> running ubuntu server but not a production server
[15:40] <trijntje> jiffe: what users have they added? Programs can add users as well
[15:40] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: is it directly on the net or behind a nat?
[15:40] <jiffe> no they added a user similar to an existing user
[15:41] <jiffe> its directly on the net
[15:41] <virhilo> hitsujiTMO: works without splash
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/passwd
[15:42] <virhilo> would like to report plymouth bug, but have no clue what to report as these logs look fine
[15:42] <fire> tool to burn iso image to usb, i just forgot it's name
[15:42] <fire> not dd, other one
[15:42] <virhilo> fire: why not dd?
[15:42] <fire> unetinstaller something like that
[15:42] <jiffe> hitsujiTMO: why would I pastebin my etc/passwd? :)
[15:42] <hitsujiTMO> virhilo: so it is indeed plymouth. report a bug attach the logs and someone should talk you thru how to get more info after that
[15:42] <jiffe> I've already removed the user
[15:43] <virhilo> hitsujiTMO: ok
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: ahh ok
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: when you say it was similar to an existing user, do you mean similar name?
[15:43] <jiffe> hitsujiTMO: yes off my one letter
[15:43] <fire> ok remembered now, unetbootin
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: how do you authenticate exactly?
[15:44] <hitsujiTMO> jiffe: when sshing that is?
[15:44] <actionParsnip> fire: there is no 'burning' with USB, its a magnetic media
[15:44] <jiffe> hitsujiTMO: what do you mean, I use password auth
[15:44] <actionParsnip> fire: you burn a CD as a more intense laser is used to write the data to the surface, then a less intense laser to read it
[15:45] <jiffe> they got in because of an insecure password
[15:45] <jiffe> I'm not sure how they got root though
[15:45] <fire> actionParsnip: ahh ok right