[00:00] <sig_white> wilee-nilee: Well, my heart sank when I had reached a point where I had GRUB running but *neither* Ubuntu nor Windows 8 would boot anymore.
[00:00] <aantonic73_> crafty doesnt work in eboard but works in xboard chess? any solution
[00:03] <sig_white> Meh.At least this time around Ubuntu's wireless network drivers seem to be working properly. That was the reason I abandoned installing Ubuntu on the previous notebook (~2-3 years ago)
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> sig_white, Some windows users just save all the install packages and have a install media, some images, I would not rely on the recovery partition is all. If you have pro or above you have unlimited backups on board, legally only one image, personally I have three externals one is 2 terrabyte the others are a bit smaller the big one was 100$, cheap insurance.
[00:03] <JeremyTiki> Hey guys, I'm trying to install some new software on my Ubuntu server, but when I use 'sudo apt-get package' it throws an error and says to run 'sudo apt-get -f install' so I do and this pops up http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909398/
[00:03] <akurilin> How do I decide where to play group membership of a user on my machine? It looks like I could specify it both under /etc/user and under /etc/passwd. Is there a "correct way"?
[00:04] <JeremyTiki> I've read through a couple different answers (like deleting old files from /boot) but nothing seems to work
[00:04] <k1l> Will: support only here in the channel
[00:04] <k1l> Will: yes, that will reload the packages
[00:06] <pepee> JeremyTiki, try installing linux-image-3.2.0-40-generic
[00:07] <JeremyTiki> How do I do that? Sorry I'm still kind of new to it
[00:07] <pepee> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-40-generic
[00:07] <sig_white> wilee-nilee: I should really burn the recovery image to a DVD some time (tomorrow?). Disk backups don't really help me, though. Backing up the important data is why I use Wuala in the first place. For the rest I am honest enough to know I'm too lazy to do it properly (i.e. regularly), so the added benefit would be neglible.
[00:07] <trism> aantonic73_: there is a thread talking about it on the forums but it is down, maybe: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cupE0czL2ZsJ:ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1492627.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
[00:08] <daniel1> Evening everyone
[00:08] <daniel1> a) whats the md5 hash for ubuntu-latest-32bit.iso and b) why cant I find that on the ubuntu website? :-)
[00:08] <trism> aantonic73_: it says something about how you need to have your book files in ~/.eboard and table files in ~/.eboard/craftylog
[00:08] <bazhang> !hashes | daniel1
[00:09] <JeremyTiki> pepee just gives me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909412/
[00:09] <daniel1> thanks :-)
[00:09] <pepee> install linux-headers-server:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-server
[00:09] <pepee> !dependencies
[00:10] <sig_white> Anyway. Thanks holstein, syn-ack, wilee-nilee et al. I'm going to bed. I'll give this another try tomorrow and make sure to give nomodeset a try. Maybe I'm overlooking something.
[00:10] <pepee> bah, sorry JeremyTiki , I don't remember how to solve that kind of brokennes :/
[00:11] <JeremyTiki> Damn, no one seems to know how to
[00:12] <mmun> hello! is it possible to list all packages made available from a particular installed ppa? my googlefu is failing me
[00:12] <reisio> JeremyTiki: doesn't it tell you what to do there?
[00:13] <pepee> the bot had a factoid, but I don't remember it...
[00:13] <JeremyTiki> @reisio running apt-get -f install?
[00:13] <reisio> JeremyTiki: is that your question?
[00:13] <speedracr> getting error about low graphics mode and install fails; 2 vid cards, 3 monitors. any option to install without removing a video card?
[00:14] <JeremyTiki> No that throws another error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909398/
[00:15] <mmun> argh, nevermind found a way: grep Package /var/lib/apt/lists/(repo name)_Packages
[00:15] <th0r> mmun, I think you can do that in synaptic also
[00:16] <mmun> It's ubuntu server :/
[00:17] <pepee> speedracr, have you ever used linux before? or, do you know how to use grub?
[00:17] <speedracr> familiar with grub somewhat
[00:18] <pepee> bah, forget it.... I was gonna suggest to try another method, but it's easier just try to remove one card or do something with the modules
[00:21] <speedracr> pepee: heh, i'd rather not have to open up this puppy.  i'll keep digging, likely nomodeset or something
[00:21] <pepee> speedracr, I'd try this:  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=89635
[00:21] <pepee> noload=something  in the kernel command line
[00:21] <speedracr> cool, i'll look into that, thanks dude
[00:21] <pepee> yw
[00:23] <akronix> w30: thanks for your help about the wireless card. I'm not sure if it works, it'll try it when I restart
[00:30] <Dekade> would be it be a real pain in the butt to install windows after ubuntu?
[00:30] <Dekade> would it*
[00:30] <th0r> Dekade, yes
[00:30] <Dekade> hm bummer
[00:31] <as0t> hello guys! I just install 12.04 on my laptop. its my first day on linux so sorry about stupid questions.
[00:31] <as0t> I just update
[00:31] <as0t> and now i cant login
[00:31] <as0t> i type the password in login screen
[00:31] <th0r> Dekade, I do run windows in a virtualbox vm from within linux
[00:31] <as0t> and gives me black screen for few seconds and then again login screen
[00:32] <as0t>  I can login with guest user
[00:32] <as0t> but no with root
[00:32] <as0t> any idea?
[00:32] <Dekade> I do too, but basicly the only reason I launch windows is to play a game with my mate.
[00:32] <Dekade> and I havent found it to be too cooperative just yet
[00:32] <Dekade> works great for everything else, but gaming
[00:33] <th0r> Dekade, if you try to install windows after linux, you will lose grub and have to reinstall and reconfigure it. Basically, when windows is installed it 'takes back' the computer. Can't speak for
[00:33] <th0r> win8 though
[00:33] <akurilin> How do I decide where to play group membership of a user on my machine? It looks like I could specify it both under /etc/user and under /etc/passwd. Is there a "correct way"?
[00:34] <Dekade> I understand, how hard would it be to reinstall and configure grub?
[00:34] <th0r> Dekade, not sure....always avoided the issue myself <smile>
[00:34] <Dekade> hehe :)
[00:35] <Dekade> I was looking into that option but I thought I'd jump into the channel and ask somebody for an opinion
[00:35] <doomlord> i've damaged my gtk themes i think .. is there a way to grab the originals without reinstalling everything . i put stuff in ~/.themes, but i might have changed them elsewhere too. (i;ve renamed ~/.themes to prevent it being used)
[00:35] <Dekade> thnx man ;)
[00:36] <doomlord> changing something leaves all sorts of inconsistencies ... i was after a true dark-theme desktop, but it just breaks things, all the apps i use have one critical elemment that will be inverted and look a mess
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, Unity?
[00:37] <doomlord> yes i'm using the unity desktop
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, Which release?
[00:37] <doomlord> 13.04 . i had a load of extra gtk themes in ~/.themes ... i got rid of them. i seem to have some residual changes i must have made in the system files
[00:38] <doomlord> cant even remember where they should be
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, You can reset the whole shebang to stock. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04  If you have added PPA's though I would purge them first that may fix it.
[00:39] <doomlord> thanks i will try
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, I am assuming the damage is not to extensive like any stock configs removed.
[00:41] <doomlord> i recall adjusting colours in some config file...
[00:41] <doomlord> so i just have messy colour schemes, some elements for a dark theme, some for light
[00:41] <doomlord> eclipse looks horrible :)
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, You have been busy no haven't you. ;)
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> now*
[00:42] <doomlord> it was eclipse in particular that sent me on this quest :)
[00:42] <doomlord> ok i have an undamaged install elsewhere, i will try copying its /usr/share/themes////
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, Pretty much any OS is fixable if you want to spend the time, personally it is time against a clone reload for me.
[00:43] <doomlord> i have  a load of keybindings i prefer to keep
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> which a clone would have
[00:43] <doomlord> request for ubuntu... true dark/light theme options
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> doomlord, Here is a website with meta lists for desktops in playing around might be worth having. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[00:50] <ZeloZelos> is this working?
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> what?
[00:50] <ZeloZelos> ah good
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[00:51] <ZeloZelos> i was wondering, my hard drive has some bad sectors and i need to try and fix it, does ubuntu have the tools i could run from a live cd and fix it, i have both linux and windows 7 partitions
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> ZeloZelos, fixing a HD is problematic I would image that sucker and get another.
[00:53] <wilee-nilee> at the least back it up
[00:54] <ZeloZelos> i plan on that. till then i have to deal with this one so i need to do something..and yup, 1st thing i did was made an image of the hd
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> ZeloZelos, Cool, I'm not familiar with how you would fix it though.
[00:54] <Zhenjin> I am getting ic2 ic2-3: sendbytes: NAK bailout. messages, is this a serious issue or something i can ignore?
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> Zhenjin, Not sure myself but here is what google has to say, there is an older bug at the top. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=+ic2+ic2-3%3A+sendbytes%3A+NAK+bailout&btnG=Google+Search&gbv=1
[01:03] <magoogle> hello all!
[01:03] <reisio> 'lo
[01:04] <magoogle> anyone give me a hand configuring a ceton inv4 tuner on my ubuntu 13.04 server.. when i manually add the address and restart the server i lose my ip on my primary network interface.. then i have to remove the line for the tuner to get ip back.
[01:05] <doomlord_> unity-reset: i dont think that will help: the doc says "it will affect workspaces,launcher,multimonitor,hud,compiz".."but not affect anything controlled by unity itself"
[01:05] <phong_> hi guys, is ubuntu 13.04 any good?
[01:05] <phong_> i have 11.11 and 12.
[01:05] <doomlord_> what i have damaged is *gtk config*
[01:05] <doomlord_> ubuntu 13.04 is good, it fixed problems i had eg graphics card support
[01:05] <doomlord_> its better optimized
[01:05] <phong_> any other really advantage beside more graphic cards support?
[01:06] <clue_h> integrated amazon search...
[01:06] <phong_> so does it make any diff installing to vmware?
[01:06] <phong_> maybe not
[01:06] <alexw> I'm trying to setup an NFS share around the house as a NAS
[01:06] <alexw> what permissions do I need on the folder
[01:06] <alexw> ?
[01:07] <phong_> alexw, what kind of permission do you need?
[01:07] <alexw> I was hoping that authenticated users could have rw - nobody have ro
[01:08] <alexw> can you login to NFS using credentials for the local machine?
[01:08] <phong_> can you?
[01:08] <phong_> :)
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> phong_, VM's use there own drivers it is not exactly the same.
[01:08] <phong_> well i have vmware and 11.11
[01:09] <phong_> by installing 13.04, i dont think it will make any difference
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu should run fine in a vm, I would think, if not delete it.
[01:09] <phong_> wilee-nilee, i was comparing the version ...obviously you dont pay attn.
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> phong_, Yo. ;)u funny joe
[01:10] <phong_> it's joe smoe
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> welcome back to ignore were ther mot=rons belong.
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> morons*
[01:11] <JeremyTiki> Hey guys, I've done a little work since I was here a few hours ago and now I'm getting a different error message http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909532/ any ideas?
[01:14] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: the "KeyError: 'linux-image-server'" is the cause of the crash
[01:15] <JeremyTiki> really? I thought the error would be something to do with ImportError: No module named debian.deb822"
[01:15] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: but i wasn't around to see what the problem was before; i'm going to guess you have added or removed apt repositories
[01:16] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: well, that certainly is an error! it's just happening later, and so could be operating under different assumptions
[01:16] <JeremyTiki> The error was when I would run "apt-get install -f" it would throw an error that said something about not enough disk space.
[01:16] <JeremyTiki> Well any suggestions on how I can fix any of this?
[01:16] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: also I do not claim to be a master at understanding apt; I may be of only minor assistance
[01:16] <JeremyTiki> Any assistance is appriecated
[01:19] <Shira> Hello i have a big problem and dont know how to solve it
[01:19] <cfhowlett> JeremyTiki, time to clear out the cache ...
[01:19] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: i am confused primarily because i was under the impression the linux-server and linux-image-server didn't even exist as of 12.04 anymore
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> JeremyTiki, This a full on server no X
[01:19] <cfhowlett> JeremyTiki, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get remove && sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:20] <Shira> I have completly installed my ubuntu new (i had no problems therE) with encryotion (from the setup screen) and now anyime when i want to shutdown my pc or restart, ubuntu hang on a black screen and nothing happen
[01:20] <JeremyTiki> @cfhowlett Running now
[01:20] <JeremyTiki> sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get remove && sudo apt-get autoremove just gives http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909555/
[01:21] <cfhowlett> JeremyTiki, sudo apt-get - f install     doesn't fix?
[01:21] <JeremyTiki> @wilee-nilee what?
[01:21] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: what are those apt sources?
[01:21] <Shira> can anybody help me?
[01:21] <cfhowlett> !patience|Shira,
[01:22] <JeremyTiki> @cfhowlett nope just throws http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909532/
[01:22] <poppy_liveloop> cfhowlett: JeremyTiki already tried that, it's in the older pastebin
[01:22] <cfhowlett> poppy_liveloop, OK.  just got online here in Beijing so I didn't see it
[01:22] <poppy_liveloop> ahh
[01:22] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: your apt repos are hosed; this is going to hurt you: http://webmin.mirror.somersettechsolutions.co.uk/repository/ sarge/contrib
[01:23] <Shira> I have completly installed my ubuntu new (i had no problems therE) with encryotion (from the setup screen) and now anyime when i want to shutdown my pc or restart, ubuntu hang on a black screen and nothing happen
[01:23] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop how should I fix that then?
[01:23] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: cat /etc/apt/sources.list and put it in a pastebin
[01:24] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: you probably have a few lines in that file that could use deleting, unless you are very sure you want them in your repo
[01:24] <JeremyTiki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909569/
[01:24] <JeremyTiki> sources.list ^
[01:24] <JeremyTiki> 2nd and 70 line are dublicates
[01:25] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: ahh, that's a repository only for webmin, should be ok
[01:25] <JeremyTiki> I removed it regardless
[01:26] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: so that was just a warning; the real issue is the "unmet dependencies" combined with the KeyError
[01:26] <JeremyTiki> Seems like it
[01:27] <Shira> i need realy help, anytime when i restart or shutdown my pc, i get a black screen and nothing happens, what can i do (Informations, i have setup my system with encryption)
[01:27] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: what does apt-get update say?
[01:29] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: sometimes machines don't hardware poweroff correctly, just happens
[01:29] <JeremyTiki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909578/
[01:29] <petriborg> should be able to disable the shutdown animation somehow still
[01:29] <Shira> poppy_liveloop i have it anytime
[01:29] <Shira> poppy_liveloop since i have setup my ubuntu new with encryption
[01:30] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: why were you installing linux-server?
[01:30] <luiz> hi
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> Shira, Do you really need encryption if that is the problem?
[01:30] <cfhowlett> luiz, greetings
[01:30] <petriborg> shira  it happens when / while it goes to the ubuntu shutdown screen / animation ?
[01:30] <junktext> Shira, I've had your problem actually.  You can try this change documented here: http://junktext.net/notes/Note04.txt  However, try using "nomodeset" instead of "noplymouth" when you get to that step.
[01:30] <JeremyTiki> Well I'm using the system in question as a server, but that came up whenever I try to run 'apt-get -f install'
[01:30] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, did you try installing again after an update? All hits suggest to me that you only did it this time.
[01:30] <junktext> This fixed my Samsung laptop, Shira.
[01:30] <luiz>  cfhowlett where are you from?
[01:31] <Shira> petriborg yes, no animation, only a black screen or sometimes my monitor (grafic card) turns off completly
[01:31] <JeremyTiki> varunendra instalying what? linux-server?
[01:31] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, whatever you are trying to install.
[01:32] <cfhowlett> luiz, linux land.  what's your ubuntu issue?
[01:32] <junktext> Shira, yeah it was a problem with my video driver, which the "nomodeset" option from GRUB helps alleviate.
[01:32] <petriborg> shira oh so it just fades to black and you don't get anything else? have you tried going to the command console and running "sudo shutdown -h now" ?
[01:32] <luiz> 12.04
[01:32] <JeremyTiki> Im not trying to install anythin in particular. I just ran 'apt-get install -f'
[01:32] <petriborg> yeah i think junktext 's solution might be good shira
[01:33] <Shira> junktext i had no problem with my graficcard before, also with the same nvidia driver
[01:33] <JeremyTiki> varunendra Initially I was trying to do "apt-get install python-MySQLdb", but then it said to run "apt-get -f install" and here we are
[01:33] <junktext> Well, you said you installed a new version of Ubuntu, right?
[01:34] <Shira> petriborg yes, ubuntu turns off and switch to the commando screen but i get only a black screen
[01:34] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: actually, try apt-get -m install python-MySQLdb
[01:34] <Shira> petriborg no but i will try it out
[01:34] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, I just looked over here, so sorry if I'm missing something critical, but this in your error part - "Need to get 0 B/4,104 B of archives" suggests you may have broken packages in cache, causing the error.
[01:34] <Shira> junktext i will also try it out
[01:34] <junktext> Yeah, can't hurt.  If you don't like the "nomodeset", you can just go back to the old boot-up sequence.
[01:35] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: that will cause apt to ignore missing packages, which in your case appears to be linux-server and linux-image-server
[01:35] <petriborg> shira - yeah i would hit up the F1 kernel console and see if  shutdown -h now results in the same problem - if it does then it might not be your graphics driver but something else screwing up
[01:35] <JeremyTiki> varunendra someone suggested  cleaning out my cache and gave a command, I ran it but still we got the same error
[01:36] <cfhowlett> varunendra, I had him run apt-get clean, remove and autoremove ... didn't do what I thought it would do ...
[01:36] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: well, i think varunendra is suggesting re-running that after your recent running of "apt-get update" ... you did already update before trying all of this, right?
[01:36] <JeremyTiki> Yeah
[01:36] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop yeah I did
[01:36] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: yeah, i would have imagined
[01:36] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, if you already haven't I'd suggest to try - "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-server linux-server"
[01:36] <Shira> petriborg, junktext. no i have installed my ubuntu 13.04 new because i had installed gnome 3.8 and wantet to deinstall but in the middle part the deinstallation have stocked and my pc is turned off, after that i have start it again and the system was messed up. so i have make a complete new install with encryption
[01:37] <petriborg> shira, oh i see, yuck
[01:38] <petriborg> i hate it when i screw up the window manager
[01:38] <varunendra> cfhowlett, I would have suggested apt-get clean too.
[01:38] <Shira> petriborg btw, when ubuntu starts, i get after driver update a strange start screen, same as before but with text lines under the screen
[01:39] <petriborg> i'm not sure i understand  shira :-/
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> Shira, You familiar with PPA-Purge?
[01:39] <junktext> Hmm, interesting.  Well, I am using encryption on my hdd as well and had the same problems you were describing.  The fix I posted worked for me, which I guess kills two birds with one stone (verbose boot + no weird reboot hangs).  If my fix doesn't work, just let me know.
[01:39] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: it sounds like you're a python dev since you're installing python-MySQLdb; that KeyError means linux-image-server wasn't even in the package list. If you are a python dev, you could always read /usr/bin/apt-listchanges to see what it's even on about
[01:39] <barrett> if dhclient -r is supposed to release my ip address, why does it still show it there in ifconfig afterwards?
[01:39] <Shira> wilee-nilee no
[01:39] <varunendra> cfhowlett, did the "sudo apt-get clean" command that cfhowlett suggested finished properly? Without errors?
[01:40] <varunendra> sorry, JeremyTiki ^^
[01:40] <cfhowlett> varunendra, :_
[01:40] <varunendra> ;)
[01:40] <JeremyTiki> varunendra The logs http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909594/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909595/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909598/
[01:40] <Shira> and junktext, petriborg i will try a command shutdown and when that not work than i try junkktext methode and when that also doesent work i come back
[01:40] <servvs> well that is interesting, I move to windows for 3 weeks for guitar-audio tests and find out the entire site is down
[01:40] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: actually, hold on
[01:40] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop Not a great dev, just trying to get Django running on MySQL
[01:41] <junktext> Yeah, good luck, Shira!  Hope all goes well.
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> Shira, Ah, well as far as your original removal of gnome 3.8 that had to have been a ppa, the purge would have removed it all and set you stock, an important thing, dependencies and meta-packages are crucial to be removed correctly.
[01:41] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: i'm running 12.04 right now, and i have no /usr/bin/apt-listchanges AT ALL on my machine
[01:41]  * junktext is afk
[01:41] <JeremyTiki> varunendra apt-get clean just makes a new line, it doesn't print any text
[01:41] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: your machine is speaking some kind of moon apt. Is it a fresh install, or an upgrade?
[01:41] <varunendra> that means it was good.
[01:42] <syn-ack> JeremyTiki: That's exactly what it's supposed to do
[01:42] <JeremyTiki> syn-ack varunendra some good news, one command is working woo
[01:42] <Shira> wilee-nilee yes and thats why i have installed it new and now i have the shutdown problem, i will check it if it works as command and than i check junktext method in hope that it work
[01:42] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop So what does that mean for my machine then?
[01:42] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: it means you have an apt command that at least one other person does not
[01:43] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, which one? the "apt-get clean"?? :P
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> Shira, Cool, I was just concerned you work correctly if you are going to add PPA's...etc.
[01:43] <JeremyTiki> varunendra
[01:43] <JeremyTiki> varunendra yeah
[01:43] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: can you run apt-get --version
[01:44] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: i have: apt 0.8.16~exp12ubuntu10.11 for amd64 compiled on Apr 18 2013 23:27:57
[01:44] <Shira> wilee-nilee no, im a new with linux (i have use it more times so i have only little exp.)
[01:44] <Shira> i test it now
[01:44] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop output for apt-get --version http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909604/
[01:44] <JeremyTiki> I have the same thing I think
[01:44] <poppy_liveloop> yeah
[01:45] <syn-ack> Linux Neptune 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:43:33 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:45] <syn-ack> see, I can do that, too. :P
[01:47] <joeb> Having an issue with nvidia-313-updates, three monitors and Compiz/Unity. Tried sifting through bug reports but they don't seem to apply. Can someone provide assistance?
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> Shira, Cool, always feel free to check with the channel if you feel you need to, or the ubuntu forums, when it returns. ;)
[01:48] <shira__> petriborg i have used the command reboot it have worked
[01:49] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: if you have time, walk through `find /var/lib/apt /var/cache/apt | less` and see if it makes semse
[01:50] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, does "sudo dpkg --configure -a" complete successfully?
[01:51] <JeremyTiki> varunendar : Throws http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909616/
[01:52] <Shira> petriborg, junktext after i have restart my pc with the command reboot, the system shutdown an restart works
[01:53] <petriborg> so it only has problems from within the window manager
[01:53] <Shira> petriborg, junktext no, now also the normal restart and shutdown works
[01:53] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, those last lines in your "sources.list" file... are those repositories compatible with Precise? Have you cross-checked on the PPAs?
[01:54] <petriborg> shira, oh so it fixed itself
[01:54] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: can you run `ls /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/debian/`?
[01:54] <JeremyTiki> varunendra the webmin sources? I think they are, how can I check
[01:55] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop cannot access /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/debian/: No such file or directory
[01:55] <p014k> Hello. What is the difference between sort -n and sort -g?
[01:55] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, whatever PPA or guide page you followed should mention it.
[01:55] <poppy_liveloop> varunendra: JeremyTiki: on a quick look, they seem fine; something appears to be hosed in his python install
[01:55] <Shira> petriborg, junktext yes, thanks for the hhelp  but i have a little last question, i have installed my system with encryption. When now anybody would get my hdd and try to get the data with a other pc from a other os, can he get it or is it same strong as truecrypt? because i have never used other encryption programms
[01:56] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: do you use easy_install as root?
[01:56] <varunendra> poppy_liveloop, those .py file related messages are something new to me as well, so can't deny that possibility.
[01:56] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop I might ahve over the past Im not sure
[01:56] <petriborg> shira, you let ubuntu encrypt your home directory? is this what you mean?
[01:56] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: well, now's a good day to learn about virtualenv :)
[01:56] <JeremyTiki> I already have a pretty good working knoweldge of virtualenv
[01:57] <JeremyTiki> Thats why all my posts have (jeremylspencer.com) before them
[01:57] <JeremyTiki> I have one active now
[01:57] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: because if that's missing, your system python install might be hosed
[01:57] <Shira> petriborg, junktext no, i have select the system encryption from the ubuntu setup screen and also the personal encryption from the user pw window from the ubuntu setup
[01:57] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: most of the ubuntu infrastructure is in python, and depends on not being poked too much
[01:58] <Shira> petriborg, junktext and now i want know, when anybody get my hdd if he can get all data when e install it into a other pc and try to get my data via other os
[01:58] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, please show the output of "apt-cache show linux-headers-server | grep -i version"
[01:58] <cfhowlett> Shira, given time and serious effort, encryption can be defeated ... but not easily.
[01:59] <mmun> is it possible to use a package for saucy in precise? I'd like to install the latest version of this package: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opencv
[01:59] <JeremyTiki> varunendra http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909629/
[01:59] <petriborg> shira - I see, sorry I don't know much about this setup, so take with a grain of salt, I feel that this is probably "very secure"  at least against most criminals, though i'm sure the NSA could break it :-)
[02:00] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: I personally use easy_install --prefix=$HOME/local pkgname and have added ~/local/bin to my path for any "system" python installs, and virtualenv for project-specific installs
[02:00] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop I'm starting to notice that, I deffinately need to be more careful and use virtualenv more
[02:00] <Shira> cfhowleft, petriborg ah because my last system was windows with full hdd encryption aes via truecrypt and a very strong and long generatet password with many bit randoms
[02:00] <Shira> cfhowleft, petriborg i have heard that this is one of the strongest and physical unbreakable methode
[02:01] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: unfortunately a bunch of recipes use sudo with the tools, which is dangerous to linux, mac, bsd...
[02:01] <cfhowlett> Shira, you asked if it's possible to hack.  it is.  Just not easily hacked.
[02:01] <Shira> cfhowleft, petriborg i only know the firewire methode (truecrypt)
[02:02] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: aside from the python problems, the path that varunendra is on is that the versions for the linux kernel packages aren't matching
[02:02] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, do you have an older kernel installed?
[02:02] <varunendra> poppy_liveloop, yup you got me :D
[02:02] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: varunendra: I'm just confused what those packages even do - ubuntu doesn't even have a "server" kernel as of 12.04 - they're the same thing.
[02:02] <dance4x> anyone have some recommendations for a new ubuntu laptop?
[02:03] <cfhowlett> dance4x, system 76
[02:03] <varunendra> well, their existence suggests maybe they're not same, poppy_liveloop
[02:03] <cfhowlett> dance4x, or the dell sputnik
[02:03] <poppy_liveloop> dance4x: http://dell.com/ubuntu
[02:03] <dance4x> cfhowlett i have been looking at the ultrapro from system76
[02:03] <JeremyTiki> varunendra : 3.2.0-49-generic is what I have when I run uname -a
[02:03] <Shira> cfhowleft, give it a way to make it same protected like truecrypts complete hdd system encryption?
[02:04] <JeremyTiki> clear
[02:04] <JeremyTiki> shit wrong window
[02:04] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, uname only shows current kernel.
[02:04] <JeremyTiki> varunendra How do I find out if I have older kernels then?
[02:04] <dance4x> not sure i really need an ultrabook. anyone here have experience when it comes to longevity of system76 laptops?
[02:05] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, figuring out.. :P
[02:05] <dance4x> i have had 2 acer laptops and both have crapped out around the 2 year mark
[02:05] <petriborg> shira, any system can be hacked frankly, most will break your box by attacking it via virus or spear-fishing email, very few will be taking an "offline" style attack (governments) if a thief steals your machine he'll just erase it anyway or sell the parts :-) — most actual hackers want to take over your system while your still running it :-)
[02:06] <Shira> cfhowleft, yes that i know but i mean when he have get it physical
[02:06] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, try - "dpkg -s linux-image-generic | grep -i version"
[02:06] <poppy_liveloop> dance4x: if you want the "compatible with all free OSes" go for thinkpad X or T series
[02:06] <cfhowlett> Shira, you're asking for 100% bulletproof protection.  no such thing.  consider; there's now a device for sale that will mirror a locked apple/android device.  cops flash clone your equipment and crack it at their leisure.  and for every encryption scheme, someone somewhere has or will crack it.  Your current setup would likely deter the script kiddies and those who are looking for easy targets.
[02:06] <joeb> Can someone assist with an issue I'm having. Upon login all I get is my wallpaper in 13.04. No Unity or anything
[02:06] <Shira> cfhowleft, so when anybody build in the hdd in there own pc and want to look whats on them
[02:07] <JeremyTiki> varunendra http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909644/
[02:07] <poppy_liveloop> joeb: ctrl-alt-F2 will bring you to a virtual console, you can login and run commands to poke around from there
[02:07] <dance4x> poppy_liveloop im pretty happy with ubuntu. not sure i would want to switch to anything else
[02:07] <joeb> poppy_liveloop: Yes, I have one already open.
[02:07] <poppy_liveloop> joeb: ctrl-alt-F7 brings you back to desktop
[02:08] <joeb> poppy_liveloop: Yep, being using one to restart lightdm after changes. Nothing seems to work.
[02:08] <cfhowlett> Shira, don't keep the swiss bank account numbers on your hard drive.  back up everything.  expect to get hacked/cracked at some point.  that's really the best advice I can give you.
[02:08] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, eh, wrong package, replace "linux-image-generic" with "linux-image-server"
[02:08] <joeb> poppy_liveloop: I'm seeing my ~/.xsession-errors "compiz (core) - Fatal: No composite extension"
[02:09] <JeremyTiki> varunendra Version: <IP_ADDRESS>.48
[02:09] <JeremyTiki> Config-Version: <IP_ADDRESS>.47
[02:09] <JeremyTiki> varunendra Version: <IP_ADDRESS>.48 Config-Version: <IP_ADDRESS>.47
[02:09] <poppy_liveloop> joeb: yikes, not my field of expertise. Sounds like pathing is wrong in a config somewhere
[02:09] <Shira> cfhowleft, yes i have only ask because the news that the fbi failed to crack a truecrypt hdd
[02:09] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: so, from the package page: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/linux-server
[02:09] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: i think it's just a broken package
[02:10] <Shira> cfhowleft, news title: FBI fails to decrypt suspect's hard drives - after 12 months of trying
[02:10] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop so how can I fix it?
[02:10] <petriborg> shira, there is news that the FBI failed to crack most encrypted systems (at least those without an explicit back door)
[02:10] <cfhowlett> Shira, did you also read that the NSA claims they can NOT search their own databases for email?  SOMEBODY lying!
[02:11] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, do you get grub menu when you boot?
[02:11] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: varunendra: here is the link explaining that as of 12.04 the server and desktop kernel are the same: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq#What.27s_the_difference_between_desktop_and_server.3F
[02:11] <petriborg> shira but the FBI would just say "give us the password or go to jail" see all news about that :-/
[02:11] <mmun> is a backport absolutely necessary to install newer release versions of a package, or is there some kind of manual override if I have all the required dependencies installed?
[02:11] <petriborg> cfhowlett, yeah! hah
[02:11] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: try apt-get-f remove linux-server linux-image-server
[02:11] <JeremyTiki> I can't say, I mostly use the server over ssh since I set it up last year.
[02:11] <Shira> petriborg not for me, i live in germany :)
[02:12] <cfhowlett> Shira, oh well then.  you're completely safe because there is NO surveillance apparatus in Germany ...
[02:12] <varunendra> hmmm.... poppy_liveloop I think it's a good thing. Thanks for the link :)
[02:12] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop throws http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909659/
[02:12] <cfhowlett> mmun, preferred method is to use backport, but you could do the manual thing ...
[02:13] <poppy_liveloop> LOL
[02:13] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop import debian.deb822 keeps coming up over and over again in almost every error
[02:13] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: aaaannnnddd we're back to the fact that you have a broken python install
[02:13] <Shira> cfhowleft, i only ask  if any can crack my encrypted system without any back door and when they have my hdd if they can crack it than
[02:13] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop Yupp
[02:13] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: might be worth a reinstall at this point
[02:13] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, one possible way to fix it could be to boot with the older kernel, then try updating-upgrading from there, and also reinstalling the offending packages.
[02:14] <Shira> cfhowleft, sry if i ask so much but i want a system that i very secure
[02:14] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: or i guess you could search for all installed python packages and reinstall them...
[02:14] <petriborg> shira, cfhowlett - yeah germany was very upset because they wanted to setup their own NSA spy net like the UK and USA har :(
[02:14] <Shira> cfhowleft, *is
[02:14] <petriborg> shira - the disk is secure - my point is that they won't attack you via the disk, they will attack you via the browser and email
[02:15] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop the fresh install seems easier.
[02:15] <daftykins> Shira: are you doing illegal things with your computer? :(
[02:15] <Shira> petriborg yes that i have understand but i mean if there can crack my hdd only when they have the hdd in there hands
[02:15] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop fix all the problems iwth one sweep
[02:16] <cfhowlett> petriborg, I lived in Berlin for 2 years, checkpoint charlie, the secret police archives all that.  Best believe if the government wants to watch it's citizens online, it can do so quite easily.
[02:16] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: well, good luck with your django experiments when you're done! :)
[02:16] <mmun> cfhowlett: there is no backport, unfortunately. Is it possible to force the .deb's to download and install? I'm fairly certain I have all the dependencies.
[02:16] <JeremyTiki> poppy_liveloop, varunendra, Well thanks for your help guy
[02:16] <Shira> daftykins no but im a person they have a big point in secure stuff, i want all very secure, house, car also my pc
[02:16] <cfhowlett> mmun, go to the package site, download the .deb and then sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[02:16] <petriborg> cfhowlett - oh i totally agree with you, that was the joke :)
[02:16] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: using full disk encryption is commendable, but certainly requires a certain patience for debugging
[02:16] <poppy_liveloop> JeremyTiki: you're welcome!
[02:17] <mmun> cfhowlett: Alright, I'll give it a shot
[02:17] <tigris_> hi guys, i am trying to run `sudo apt-get update` and it keeps hanging on the first line with "% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::13)] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::13)]"
[02:17] <Willx> Hey guys, I have what I believe is a very trivial problem but cannot figure out how to fix. My mozilla internet  "window" is up past my screen. I cannot grab the bar to move and resize it
[02:17] <Shira> poppy_liveloop thats why i have ask if the ubuntu setup encryption is a full encryption
[02:17] <petriborg> Shira - heh how did you secure your car (just wondering) my car key was only 48 bits of encryption - its pathetic!
[02:17] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: sadly it's not the default everywhere, so there are still sharp edges to it
[02:17] <cfhowlett> Shira, http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1623-9-best-practices-to-secure-your-linux-desktop-and-server
[02:18] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: the LVM encryption is full-disk, yes. The homedir is not, it is ecryptfs.
[02:18] <varunendra> JeremyTiki, no probs, good luck with the frest install, probably the best option at this point :)
[02:18] <Shira> poppy_liveloop yes on the ubuntu setup screen you cna select encryption and the other box is checked via LVM
[02:19] <tigris_> Willx: select mozilla in the task bar, hit alt-space and then hit m, and then you can assume you are in move mode and the arrow keys are moving your window, so keep pressing up or down or whatever until you see it
[02:19] <Shira> poppy_liveloop when i boot ubuntu i need to enter my pw, then i get a cryptsetup successfully message and than the boot screen loads
[02:20] <tigris_> Willx: i believe it's a common "linux" thing if you are unplugging external displays quite a bit, i have found apps won't always get re-jigged to the displayable areas
[02:22] <Shira> poppy_liveloop i dont know if that is correct and full hdd encryption from LVM
[02:22] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: cool, sounds like it's working for you then
[02:22] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: yes, LVM is correct full-disk block level encryption
[02:22] <Shira> poppy_liveloop ah soo is that pw screen from LVM?
[02:24] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: LVM is not the encryption system, that's just the Logical Volume Manager. This is a disk management system that separates logical volumes from physical disks, so that the raw disk can be encrypted, but then appears to be a normal disk to user apps when in use
[02:24] <Willx> I am currently downloading NDISWrapper and WINE in hopes that I can get my NetGear Wireless card to work. Could you perhaps help me with that?
[02:25] <Shira> poppy_liveloop soo my hdd is now full encrypted (because the pw before ubuntu boot screen or before the boot screen load)
[02:25] <tigris_> anyone got ideas on apt-get update hanging with "0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::13)] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::13)]"? I suspect related to ipv6, not sure why my host started using ipv6 by default, i can't ping that ipv6 address either, but i can ping others using ping6
[02:26] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: yes, assuming you used the common dm-crypt method
[02:26] <barrett> i have a server "mainframe" which has a folder, with all the files owned by barrett:barrett, this folder is shared via nfs (r+w) and mounted on another machine 'htpc', with users barrett and xbmc.  barrett@htpc can write to this share, but xbmc@htpc cannot.  even though xbmc@htpc is in the barrett group, and the folders in question are all 775.  what gives?
[02:26] <daftykins> tigris_: yeah, seems stuck on trying to resolve IPv6 addresses for the repo domains perhaps.
[02:26] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: more info on dm-crypt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dm-crypt
[02:27] <daftykins> tigris_: if you 'nslookup us.archive.ubuntu.com' does it give only v4 addresses in response?
[02:27] <Shira> poppy_liveloop idk i have only select the encryption and LVM box on the ubuntu setup
[02:27] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: if you REALLY want to check your disk, don't take my word for it. Boot from a USB key and try to mount the disk, and inspect the blocks to see if they look the same as an unencrypted disk
[02:27] <tigris_> daftykins: yes, only ipv4 in the nslookup, can ping those ipv4 addresses fine
[02:28] <Shira> poppy_liveloop good idea i try it out and big thanks for your help and sorry if i have steald your time
[02:28] <Shira> also big thanks to the other users they have helped me
[02:28] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: if you have spare USB disks around that you can format, try inserting them, formatting them as encrypted using the process you used, and then try reading them in another computer
[02:29] <joeb> barrett: Do the user IDs match?
[02:29] <barrett> joeb, i am not aware of user IDs
[02:29] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: no problem. Despite what others might say, it's worth learning about security
[02:29] <daftykins> tigris_: hrmm, so it seems you need a way to stop your system using IPv6 then things will update fine
[02:30] <tigris_> daftykins: perhaps, if ubuntu ipv6 addresses are not stable
[02:30] <barrett> joeb, the user ids between barrett@mainframe and barrett@htpc?  or barrett@htpc and xbmc@htpc?
[02:30] <poppy_liveloop> Shira: keep learning by trying more things :)
[02:30] <daftykins> tigris_: well, i've no idea about that as my ISP still has yet to support v6 sadly, but if it's stalling (yet somehow knows an IP for that US repo) then it must be struggling. can you ping6 the v6 address it gives?
[02:31] <tigris_> daftykins: i can not ping6 the ipv6 addresses relating to us.archive.ubuntu.com... but i can successfully ping6 other ipv6 addresses
[02:34] <daftykins> tigris_: mm that's definitely an issue. you could either try changing your repos or force IPv4 only then i guess
[02:42] <xxx> Hello all
[02:43] <xxx> help me
[02:43] <cfhowlett> !details|xxx
[02:44] <qgewfg> who can tell me how can i modify my nickname?
[02:44] <xxx> i have problen with Ubuntu 10.04 (standard installation)
[02:44] <cfhowlett> !nick|qgewfg,
[02:44] <xxx> when i start Ubuntu
[02:44] <cfhowlett> xxx, 10.04 has reached end of life ... use 12.04
[02:45] <cfhowlett> !eol|xxx
[02:45] <xxx> i getting a error die /usr/schuh/kalk.b
[02:45] <Justin> 3Q
[02:45] <Justin> I'm qgewfg, I changed my nickname
[02:46] <cfhowlett> xxx, dude do you even read these responses?  10.04 is end of life.  dead.  not supported.
[02:46] <cfhowlett> !de|xxx
[02:47] <din2> nick din_
[02:47] <xxx> i try use boot-repair-cd but problem still a gain
[02:47] <Justin> whois xxx
[02:47] <Justin> !whois xxx
[02:48] <cfhowlett> xxx if you won't use a supported version of ubuntu ... then you will get no support.  sorry .  life is cruel that way.
[02:48] <ka4tik> whois xxx
[02:48] <xxx> Ubuntu 10.4
[02:49] <poppy_liveloop> cfhowlett: 10.04 server is supported until 2015
[02:49] <nathanbz> is't 10.04 LTS
[02:49] <nathanbz> > >
[02:50] <nathanbz> so still supported lol
[02:50] <xxx> UBUNTU 10.04 (standard installation)
[02:50] <VsioZashibis> greetings! any eta on when ubuntu forums are back online ?
[02:50] <cfhowlett> poppy_liveloop, :)  thanks
[02:50] <poppy_liveloop> nathanbz: LTS desktop is only 3 years
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> VsioZashibis, No, #ubuntuforums #ubuntu-offtopic are info areas they have just the splash info.
[02:51] <poppy_liveloop> xxx: there are several ubuntu 10.04, there is no "standard"
[02:51] <cfhowlett> VsioZashibis, they have said when.  expect an announcement to follow
[02:51] <cfhowlett> *haven't*
[02:51] <qin> cfhowlett: art of information
[02:53] <poppy_liveloop> xxx: what problem are you having? it is unclear from your description of "error die /usr/schuh/kalk.b"
[02:53] <xxx> @<poppy_liveloop> yes
[02:53] <xxx> when i start computer the error is show
[02:56] <poppy_liveloop> xxx: on the screen? or over a network connection?
[02:56] <poppy_liveloop> doh
[02:56] <poppy_liveloop> goodbye, vietnam
[02:57] <cfhowlett> poppy_liveloop, ???
[02:57] <poppy_liveloop> cfhowlett: that was not a german user, that was a vietnamese user
[02:57] <cfhowlett> poppy_liveloop, d'oh!
[02:57] <poppy_liveloop> cfhowlett: http://whois.domaintools.com/<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:58] <poppy_liveloop> who probably is on an already shaky connection and using out-of-date, broken free software
[02:59] <cfhowlett> poppy_liveloop, no to mention all kinds of internet blocks.  Random experience in Beijing, so many cash registers still on WinXP
[03:00] <xxx> hello  <poppy_liveloop>
[03:01] <cfhowlett> !vn|xxx
[03:01] <poppy_liveloop> xxx: hello!
[03:02] <poppy_liveloop> xxx: are you seeing the error onscreen? what part of startup is your computer getting to? Is the error on a text console, or is the error after graphics have loaded, or is it after you have logged in?
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> poppy_liveloop, I don't care if you help them, however this problem is nothing compared to no repo access, I would get them to understand the position their are in first
[03:04] <excelsiora> hello! I need to rip audio from a dvd so my wife can listen to her practice dvd on her mp3 player. Suggestions?
[03:04] <herbijudlestoids> hi guys, we setup a NFS server yesterday on ubuntu 12.04.2, the only non-default config is that we arent running swap and have bonded NICs
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> excelsiora, brasero rips, there are others
[03:05] <herbijudlestoids> i set the server to copy 14TB of data from another NFS server, set up in an identical fashion, on identical hardware
[03:05] <herbijudlestoids> overnight the new NFS server kernel panicd messages about ksoftirqd
[03:05] <herbijudlestoids> the original server seems fine
[03:05] <poppy_liveloop> wilee-nilee: coincidentally, i had a friend tell me just a few days ago that the 10.04 update repo breaks machines
[03:05] <herbijudlestoids> is there any way for me to ascertain what caused the panic?
[03:05] <excelsiora> wilee-nilee: i'll look at it.
[03:06] <herbijudlestoids> iv looked in /var/log/syslog, /var/log/kern.log, etc without seeing anything obvious
[03:06] <herbijudlestoids> there is no core file in /
[03:06] <herbijudlestoids> help muchly appreciated
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> poppy_liveloop, People have run giui upgrades and bricked their OS, not using the eol upgrades.
[03:06] <excelsiora> wilee-nilee: I just need the audio, so it looks like brasero is no good for me, it's a burner software.
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> gui*
[03:07] <poppy_liveloop> herbijudlestoids: well, it sure sounds like the machines aren't all that identical ;)
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> excelsiora, That may be the case, I have not had to rip and single out tunes so not sure really.
[03:09] <poppy_liveloop> herbijudlestoids: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man9/ksoftirqd.9.html
[03:09] <excelsiora> There's two acts broken down into a lot of tracks, and if I could preserve those sub-tracks so she could fast forward through the talking scenes that would be great.
[03:10] <herbijudlestoids> poppy_liveloop: thats an interesting link
[03:10] <herbijudlestoids> unfortunately im not a hardware guy
[03:10] <herbijudlestoids> so i have NFI what that means
[03:10] <herbijudlestoids> the machines were setup using the same preseed file, they are the same underlying hardware, they are the _same_
[03:10]  * cfhowlett ... adds "NFI" to personal dictionary for future deployment.
[03:11] <poppy_liveloop> herbijudlestoids: something on the one machine caused soft interrupts to trigger ksoftirqd (a kernel thread) which got into some kind of strange situation and caused a panic
[03:12] <poppy_liveloop> herbijudlestoids: the short version is that I would do hardware test on all of the cores in the new machine
[03:12] <jacks> Getting locale default message on installation
[03:12] <poppy_liveloop> herbijudlestoids: memtest86 should be a good place to start
[03:13] <herbijudlestoids> memtest is for memory, no? when you say cores i assume youre referring to the CPUs
[03:13] <Zhenjin> Anyone know what i'm doing wrong? http://imgur.com/EAzdqZt
[03:13] <herbijudlestoids> appreciating the help :)
[03:14] <herbijudlestoids> we are using nfs-kernel-server
[03:15] <herbijudlestoids> thanks guys
[03:15] <herbijudlestoids> i will run some hardware tests
[03:16] <Justin> hello everyone!
[03:16] <poppy_liveloop> herbijudlestoids: it will usually wind up striping your CPUs with the same memory patterns, it is parallel
[03:16] <herbijudlestoids> ok again, NFI what that means, but thanks
[03:16] <herbijudlestoids> :)
[03:16] <poppy_liveloop> herbijudlestoids: and that usually winds up testing the memory, which could also be the problem, and parts of your motherboard
[03:17] <Justin> quit
[03:18] <excelsiora> all: does this advice seem up to date?: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-rip-dvd-audio-to-mp3-or-ogg.html
[03:19] <hualet_deepin> exit
[03:19] <excelsiora> transcode and lsdvd?
[03:19] <excelsiora> lol
[03:24] <poppy_liveloop> excelsiora: i would think that handbrake would do it
[03:24] <poppy_liveloop> excelsiora: but i dont have experience with dvd audio
[03:29] <excelsiora> poppy_liveloop: any thoughts on how to get ahold of libdvdcss for ubuntu?
[03:29] <poppy_liveloop> excelsiora: that's between you and google ;)
[03:30] <chasesw83> need help.... getting this error in terminal,      sudo: unknown uid 1000: who are you?
[03:31] <Rarrikins> Is it possible to get the standard shell login password-prompting program or library to be memory resident and not swappable to disk?
[03:33] <excelsiora> poppy_liveloop: it turned out that I could get that by following instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs (libdvdread4 was already installed)
[03:34] <poppy_liveloop> excelsiora: nice
[03:34] <chasesw83> need help.... getting this error in terminal,      sudo: unknown uid 1000: who are you?   what do i do
[03:34] <chasesw83> seems only thing google returns is in ubuntu forums that are down still
[03:36] <excelsiora> chasesw83: you can still see cached versions of those pages, if you're persistent
[03:37] <chasesw83> excelsiora: how would i find those
[03:38] <excelsiora> Can anyone give me a shell script that could loop through the acts on a dvd and give me each chapter of each act as a separate mp3?
[03:38] <excelsiora> or point me to an example of shell loops? I'll... just google it myself...
[03:38] <clue_h> chasesw83,  small green arrow from google, next to the link
[03:39] <chasesw83> clue_h: ah thank you going to try that now
[03:40] <mrdeb> hi, how do u limit size of log files in var/log
[03:45] <poppy_liveloop> excelsiora: http://scruss.com/blog/2008/08/03/ripping-dvd-audio-with-ubuntu/
[03:53] <mrdeb> hi, how do u limit size of log files in var/log
[03:54] <naryfa> can anybody help me with grub? With:    sudo grub-install /dev/sda             I get: Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[03:54] <evillase> besides /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-49 and /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-49-generic what other kernel header package can i install to get files in /usr/include?
[03:55] <gag_> Hi there..?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> !grub | naryfa
[03:59] <l3n0x> Hello IRC Ubuntu World!
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> naryfa, This from a install or live cd?
[04:00] <gag_> i have booting problem on ubuntu 12.04
[04:00] <l3n0x> Why is it I got slow transfer rate when copying files from ext4 to NTFS partition?
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> gag_, Can you describe the problem to the channel?
[04:01] <gag_> while i m booting its directly going to ROOT
[04:01] <reisio> l3n0x: compared to what?
[04:01] <holstein> gag_: root user? the root of the drive?
[04:02] <gag_> root of the drive ...its showing like root@sys3:#
[04:02] <holstein> gag_: it?
[04:03] <l3n0x> reisio: I only got 75kB/s on average...
[04:03] <holstein> gag_: what operating system are you using? when did you install it? how did you install it.. when did it start doing whatever its doing?
[04:03] <reisio> l3n0x: compared to what?
[04:03] <l3n0x> it's on 1 HDD, isn't it suppose to be faster then that??
[04:03] <reisio> l3n0x: you're actually recreating it in another filesystem
[04:04] <l3n0x> It even faster when I download directly from the internet (13mB/s)
[04:04] <gag_> holstein: i am using ubuntu12.04,i installed 2months back,i installed from CD,
[04:04] <holstein> gag_: and you get automatically logged in as root user?
[04:04] <reisio> l3n0x: that's transferring data from your network device to your hard disk
[04:05] <l3n0x> so are you saying that it's better for me to download it directly to the NTFS partition from the internet?
[04:05] <reisio> l3n0x: ...as opposed to what you're doing now, which is effectively doubling the job of the mechanics of your hard disk
[04:05] <reisio> it has to copy, then write
[04:05] <reisio> then copy, then write
[04:05] <reisio> over and over
[04:05] <reisio> instead of just writing
[04:05] <FloodBot1> reisio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:05] <reisio> FloodBot1: suck an egg
[04:05] <gag_> holstein: its not logged in to ubuntu just its showing command mode
[04:06] <holstein> gag_: i dont understand what you mean
[04:06] <syn-ack> So, it's dropping into single user mode instead of your environment
[04:06] <syn-ack> that's what you're saying, right gag?
[04:06] <holstein> gag_: when i run "sudo -i" in a terminal, i get "root@aphrodite:~#" for example, which looks like what you are getting
[04:06] <l3n0x> reisio: IC, so there's no problem with my transfer rate then...?
[04:06] <syn-ack> gag_: What is your syslog telling you?
[04:07] <gag_> syn-ack: yes  exactly
[04:07] <holstein> syn-ack: OH.. yeah, i agree with where you are going..
[04:07] <gag_> its in single user mode
[04:07] <reisio> l3n0x: that's harder to say
[04:07] <syn-ack> gag_: have you reviewed your logs? Something's not init'ing
[04:08] <l3n0x> reisio: What is the normal transfer rate for copying files from ext4 to NTFS?
[04:08] <syn-ack> What does dmesg tell you?
[04:08] <reisio> l3n0x: good question
[04:08] <usr13> gag_: As syn-ack points out, you should take a look at syslog;  cat /var/log/syslog
[04:08] <syn-ack> SOmething very early on isn't init'ing
[04:08] <l3n0x> reisio: I tried drag n drop copy with Nautilus, it's even worse, so I use rsync and I got 75kB/s
[04:08] <usr13> gag_: Share with us anything that looks interesting.
[04:09] <WhohastheEdge> I wish Ubuntu/Canonical would give out some more info regarding the planned boot process / which process their going with.
[04:10] <l3n0x> reisio: Thanks reisio, I'll try on another machine and check the TR
[04:10] <gag_> Filesystem check or mount failed. A maintenance shell will now be started. CONTROL-D will terminate this shell and continue booting after re-trying filesystems. Any further errors will be ignored.
[04:10] <usr13> WhohastheEdge: Have you gotten wind there is a change coming?
[04:10] <syn-ack> gag_: so its not mounting /
[04:11] <syn-ack> why?
[04:11] <gag_> this is the error i m getting
[04:11] <syn-ack> gag_: fsck /
[04:11] <syn-ack> then badblock it
[04:11] <holstein> gag_: that could be a bad hard drive
[04:11] <syn-ack> or it could be that there's something going on with the filesystem
[04:11] <usr13> syn-ack: gag_  shutdown -F -r   #Will force filesystem check on reboot.
[04:11] <gag_> so what is the solution..?
[04:12] <holstein> gag_: the fsck suggestion
[04:12] <holstein> !fsck
[04:12] <holstein> gag_: and its not a "solution". you will just test til you determine the issue, which might be that the hard drive is "bad"
[04:12] <syn-ack> usr13: I know the shutdown command, but it's already unmounted so there's no point in a reboot, just do it offline
[04:12] <l3n0x> gag_: back up your files, and re=install Ubuntu :)
[04:13] <Woofcat> Hey, QQ guys. Is there a UbuntuEdge channel?
[04:13] <syn-ack> he's got a busybox shell and that's all he needs at this point
[04:13] <usr13> hummm  Looks like the factoid says that -r is all that is needed.  Did they do away with -F ?
[04:13] <syn-ack> forces
[04:13] <syn-ack> usr13: no
[04:14] <syn-ack> I didn't see who it came from usr13. Sorry.
[04:14] <usr13> syn-ack: Yea, if the partition is not mounted, then yea, just fsck it.
[04:14] <syn-ack> usr13: he's dropping into single user at boot because he cant mount /
[04:14] <syn-ack> so do it all offline. no biggie
[04:14] <usr13> syn-ack: the factoid says to do "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now"
[04:15] <syn-ack> usr13: the /forcfsk is the samething as -F
[04:15] <syn-ack> he can't touch it though since he can't mount /
[04:15] <usr13> syn-ack:  I thought    "sudo shutdown -F -r now"  would do it.  (Maybe I'm wong.)
[04:15] <syn-ack> so either he does it offline or he does it line youre suggesting
[04:15] <piggazoid> anybody know how to adjust overscan and underscan with nvidia card?
[04:16] <usr13> I do not think it's a good idea to try and fsck a mounted filesystem.
[04:16] <syn-ack> its not mounted
[04:16] <usr13> He could boot a liveCD and do it.
[04:16] <syn-ack> IT IS OFFLINE
[04:16] <usr13> Ok
[04:16] <syn-ack> he can't mount //
[04:17] <syn-ack> usr13: fsck / from that shell you're in now
[04:18] <syn-ack> You would actually have to call your block device manually since there's no mtab, either
[04:18] <syn-ack> so whatever your /path/to/the/device/is
[04:19] <usr13> syn-ack: I thought you did filesystems instead of directories.  i.e.  fsdk sda1
[04:19] <gag_> hey guys..i am getting same error again i tried sudo shutdown -F -r now this command
[04:19] <usr13> I always just use    fsck -y
[04:19] <syn-ack> usr13: you don't need to have a mounted filesystem for Grub to find and inflate a kernel image. I never mount my server /boot unless it's time for a kernel update
[04:20] <syn-ack> usr13: everything, including devices are seen by the linux and UNIX kernels as file.
[04:20] <higgy> hello
[04:20] <syn-ack> the only time it's not is when you're dealing with grub then its (0,0)
[04:21] <holstein> gag_: you will, til you repair either the file system, or determine the hardware has failed, and replace it
[04:21] <syn-ack> usr13: so it would still have a path to the block device since it's in the /sys tree
[04:21] <usr13> syn-ack: You are correct.  Mount points can be fscked as well as partitions.  Just that I've always checked the whole partition.
[04:22] <usr13> I've never figured out why I wouldn't check the whole partition.
[04:22] <syn-ack> usr13: in this case it's better to just scan the whole block device.
[04:22] <usr13> I agree
[04:22] <syn-ack> ANd he's not checking the mount point.
[04:23] <syn-ack> he's checking the device for the reasons I stated above.
[04:23] <usr13>  / is a mount point.
[04:23] <syn-ack> Did you see what I told him afterward?
[04:23] <usr13> I may have missed that.
[04:23] <gag_> anybody replying to me...????
[04:23] <syn-ack> I told him to use /the/path/to/the/device
[04:24] <syn-ack> gag_: we sure did. Read above.
[04:24] <holstein> gag_: i did.. did you see it? you'll need to test/repair the file system, or determine the hard drive is failed
[04:24] <gag_> holstein: how to do it..??
[04:25] <syn-ack> usr13: * xrandr (~keithwinn@unaffiliated/slade) has joined #ubuntu
 usr13: fsck / from that shell you're in now
 You would actually have to call your block device manually since there's no mtab, either
[04:25] <syn-ack> * KAmpF3r<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
 so whatever your /path/to/the/device/is
[04:25] <FloodBot1> syn-ack: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <holstein> !fsck | gag_ this is what i refer to
[04:25] <holstein> gag_: or, i use a live CD with diagnostic tools
[04:26] <gag_> sudo touch /fastboot when i try this command its showing cannot touch
[04:27] <syn-ack> right
[04:27] <syn-ack> gag_: you don't have anything mounted.
[04:27] <syn-ack> sigh
[04:27] <piggazoid> does anybody know how to adjust overscan and underscan with nvidia card?
[04:27] <usr13> holstein: We looked at that earlier and were discussing the uptions.  Looks like the preferred one is "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now"
[04:27] <syn-ack> usr13: he can't
[04:27] <gag_> tell me exact solution
[04:27] <holstein> gag_: thats another reason why i might use a live CD..
[04:28] <holstein> gag_: the *exact* solution is still up for you to determine with testing
[04:28] <syn-ack> He doesn't have anything mounted to the root directory. He can do everything he needs to right from that console if he were to just listen to what I had to say
[04:28] <usr13> syn-ack: He can't   fsck /dev/sda1 ?
[04:28] <usr13> (I would do it from liveCD
[04:28] <syn-ack> he can do that right from where he's at
[04:28] <Coburn> MAKE SURE FILESYSTEM IS UNMOUNTED BEFORE FSCKING ANYTHING
[04:28] <holstein> well, i might use a live CD, just cause it might be easier
[04:28] <Coburn> OR ELSE DATA GO BYE BYES
[04:28] <holstein> Coburn: it literally cant be mounted
[04:29] <syn-ack> it should be in the busybox binary that's loaded, usr13
[04:29] <Coburn> Well, you CAN fsck a mounted partition but boom
[04:29] <Coburn> corruption
[04:29] <syn-ack> sigh
[04:29] <usr13> I think fsck tells you it wont
[04:29] <syn-ack> I really wish people would read scroll
[04:29] <holstein> Coburn: sure.. but, the issue is, the file system is *not* mounted.. no mounting. so the suggestion is, to fsck
[04:30] <usr13> Coburn: Anyway, we've already discussed not fscking a mounted filesystem.
[04:30] <syn-ack> gag_: do me a favor
[04:30] <syn-ack> from your console, type "fsck" without the quotes, of course.
[04:31] <syn-ack> Nothing after it, just fsck
[04:31] <syn-ack> what does it tell you?
[04:32] <piggazoid> anybody know how to adjust overscan and underscan with nvidia card?
[04:32] <syn-ack> fsck should barf out an error about needing a target.
[04:32] <usr13> If the filesystem is mounted, fsck says,  "/dev/sdaX is mounted. e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting."
[04:32] <syn-ack> usr13: good
[04:32] <syn-ack> so we know it's in your busybox
[04:33] <holstein> piggazoid: i just use the included GUI to create an xorg.conf, and if the settings are not in the GUI, i try to manually edit the xorg.conf file after it is generated
[04:33] <syn-ack> err.
[04:33] <syn-ack> you did it again, usr13
[04:33] <syn-ack> heh
[04:33] <gag_> fsck from util-l linux
[04:33] <syn-ack> GOG
[04:33] <usr13> But it does try and check available partitions.    ... what did I do again?
[04:33] <setuid> Open question: I've got  lots of bandwidth and disk space and want to mirror some OSS projects that could use the help; PHP, PuTTY, FreeBSD, Cygwin, LDP, CPAN, etc. Anyone know of some others I can help out with?
[04:33] <syn-ack> hrm
[04:33] <syn-ack> interesting. let me look something up, gag
[04:34]  * syn-ack pops out the manpage
[04:35] <usr13> Which partition is gag_ having problems with?  Does anyone know?
[04:35] <Seven_Six_Two> I've added my usb key to fstab, but it's mounted root:root and I can't write to it. Here's my fstab line:
[04:35] <syn-ack> GOOOD
[04:35] <syn-ack> HOLD ON
[04:35] <Seven_Six_Two> UUID=887D-F4FA                          /media/Aegis-3  vfat    rw,noexec,noatime,user        0       0
[04:35] <syn-ack> it's installed
[04:35] <holstein> !chown | Seven_Six_Two
[04:35] <syn-ack> usr13: /
[04:36] <syn-ack> where
[04:36] <syn-ack> d he go
[04:36] <usr13> syn-ack: / is a mount point.  I asked what partition it was.
[04:36] <Seven_Six_Two> holstein, chown: changing ownership of `./Aegis-3': Operation not permitted
[04:36] <syn-ack> yeah, it's been a long day.
[04:36] <holstein> Seven_Six_Two: you can read about it here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive#Create_A_Mount_Point
[04:36] <syn-ack> usr13: when he comes back, page me. I'm going for a smoke
[04:36] <usr13> syn-ack: Ok
[04:37] <holstein> Seven_Six_Two: sudo chown -R USERNAME:USERNAME /media/mynewdrive ..or the other way mentioned
[04:37] <knight3332> Hello, I've installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, and when I download torrent file using transmission bittorrent client I get a window with msg "choose an application" but no bitorrent on the list?
[04:37] <usr13> holstein: He can just do root:users
[04:37] <holstein> knight3332: i would just open transmission, and open the torrent
[04:38] <usr13> holstein: Or    username:users
[04:38] <holstein> usr13: you want to just direct that to the nick?
[04:38] <Seven_Six_Two> holstein, that's what I did.
[04:38] <holstein> Seven_Six_Two: if you are getting an error, share the error message
[04:39] <holstein> Seven_Six_Two: or, try the other options at the link i gave.. or what usr13 is suggeesting
[04:39] <Seven_Six_Two> holstein, chown: changing ownership of `/media/Aegis-3': Operation not permitted
[04:39] <syn-ack> back
[04:39] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: holstein  If it is vfat,  I don't think it matters, (you can not assign ownership/permissions to it.
[04:40] <Seven_Six_Two> usr13, it's vfat (usb keys) and ok, is there another way for a non-root user to write to it?
[04:40] <syn-ack> usr13: but yeah, when the system fails to mount it's root and resorts to it's rescue console, that console is a busybox session and as such it has most of the userland compiled into it
[04:40] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: The fstab entry you have looks ok.  Not sure why you can't write to it.
[04:41] <SunStar> sudo chown
[04:41] <SunStar> or sudo su then chown
[04:41] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions mentions vfat Seven_Six_Two ..i dont use vfat
[04:42] <qin> SunStar: ...
[04:42] <syn-ack> thus allowing the user to perform system maintenance without actually having to have the system online. It's actually a clone of the old UNIX method of system recovery.
[04:43] <syn-ack> usr13: in very few cases, should one actually have to rely on a rescue disk.
[04:44] <usr13> syn-ack: This may be one of those cases.  (Sometimes it's just easier.)
[04:45] <usr13> I'm a pretty big fan of boot-disks
[04:45] <syn-ack> usr13: meh, they're gonna have to learn proper system administration sometime.
[04:46] <usr13> I suppose you've got a valid point there ;0
[04:46] <qin> Seven_Six_Two: pmount
[04:48] <syn-ack> usr13: chances are, it's nothing too major.... More than likely the kernel couldnt reconcile the journal and puked. probably just needs to have it rebuilt and for some reason, mount was kicking it out
[04:48] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: Shouldn't need to be root to write to it. But one thing I don't like is your mount point.  Why did you choose /media/Aegis-3 ?  (Why not /home/Seven_Six_Two/Aegis-3 ?)
[04:49] <syn-ack> usr13: doesn't explain why fsck's counter didn't trip in the first place, but yeah
[04:49] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: If it were me, I woun't  want to perminately mount something in /media/
[04:49] <usr13> syn-ack: true...
[04:51] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: But I've not seen the error message you are getting.  Really though.  Why don't you create a mount point in your ~/  directory?
[04:53] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: Even when I do a nfs share, I just place it in /home/usr13/  Like /home/usr13/Videos  and same on client and server.  Simple. Right?  (Or on the client it could be /home/mom/usr13s-Videos )  Something like that....
[04:54] <usr13> Are we in a netsplit?
[04:55] <syn-ack> Looks like it
[04:56] <usr13> syn-ack: I never now, I have my client ignore most everything.  It's just to much stuff going by, especially on a busy channel
[04:56] <Seven_Six_Two> sorry... I was reading. I mounted it there because this script will be run by cron, and I don't want it in my home. The problem (I just discovered) was that I needed to add "uid=1000,gid=1000" to the mount options in fstab. It defaults to root, and that's how to change it.
[04:56] <syn-ack> usr13: seems to be a fairly minor one, if so
[04:56] <usr13> yea
[04:57] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: Ok, good.  Glad you told us.
[04:59] <usr13> Seven_Six_Two: Even though you don't want it in /home/  I still don't like it being in /media/ I would make a mount ponit elsewhere, maybe even just /
[05:00] <usr13> I dono, that's just me I guess.
[05:02] <usr13> I often make those type decisions based on what partition I want something to be on.
[05:03] <usr13> Well, that's not true either.  It's late.  I gotta turn in.
[05:04] <GigaWarez> how is everyone tonight?
[05:04] <heikoS_> are there any rss clients (besides the mail clients with rss support) that have filters? example: I'd like to autmatically delete all items that are from author foo and contain the word bar.
[05:05] <yax51> Hello
[05:05] <yax51> I need some help as the forums are down :(
[05:06] <yax51> I am having issues with DVD playback, the screen gets all shaky and the quality is poor
[05:06] <yax51> I have used the proprietary drivers and don't know what else to do
[05:07] <yax51> I know there is a fix somewhere
[05:07] <yax51> and I'm using 12.04
[05:11] <ceci> exit
[05:11] <yax51> exit?
[05:14] <ceci> New using irssi
[05:17] <yax51> aaah gotcha, anyway I got it fixed :)
[05:18] <brahmana> Hi.. I am using a 4G USB Modem to access internet. There is a helper applicatin to drive the device provided by the ISP
[05:18] <brahmana> When using this helper application, the network manager is unaware of the connection and says I am not connected.
[05:19] <brahmana> How can I tell network manager that I am actually connected to the internet?
[05:19] <daya> I have a problem, when I install new kernel GRUB waits for selection of kernel in First reboot  and in next reboot it doesnot any idea?
[05:19] <brahmana> The problem is with Ubuntu Software Center where I cannot install any software (currently trying to install VLC) because I am not connected to the internet.
[05:20] <rannonga> daya, what do you mean and how did you install the kernel?
[05:20] <brahmana> Is there a way to tell Software Center and/or the network manager that I am actually connected to the internet?
[05:20] <rannonga> daya, also what release are you running?
[05:21] <rannonga> brahman, try running sudo apt-get update from terminal
[05:21] <daya> rannonga: dpkg -i <linux-hearder---*> 12.04, and I upgraded the kernel to 3.5
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> brahmana, Does the usb device show with running lsusb
[05:21] <brahmana> rannonga: How would that help me?
[05:21] <rannonga> i dont know
[05:22] <daya> rannonga: In First reboot I do have a choice of selecting kernel, and in next it goes out
[05:22] <th0r> brahmana, that third party software probably isn't communicating with network manager. I would not be surprised if you have to choose...either use the third party manager or network manager, but not both
[05:22] <brahmana> wilee-nilee: yes - Bus 002 Device 006: ID 12d1:1506 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E398 LTE/UMTS/GSM Modem/Networkcard
[05:22] <GigaWarez> what would be the best way to share files between two ubuntu boxes on the same network?
[05:22] <brahmana> th0r: I do not want to use the network manager here because it misses some of the specifics for this device-ISP combination
[05:23] <rannonga> daya, I would suggest going to the website http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ and downloading the files manually
[05:23] <rannonga> for the kernel release that you want
[05:23] <brahmana> th0r: Had tried that earlier, but the connection kept breaking. So had to switch to the app provided by ISP
[05:23] <th0r> brahmana, if you disable it and just use the third party software, can you connect OK?
[05:24] <ScaroDj> Hi! I got the email about the forums and keys, but I have no idea which of my passwords I used, is there a way to know?
[05:24] <brahmana> th0r: haven't tried that. However the problem is not with connection itself. The connection is all fine. I am now connected with the same device.
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> ScaroDj, Not unless you saved the info.
[05:24] <th0r> brahmana, then I would just disable network manager as it isn't really doing anything for you anyway
[05:25] <brahmana> th0r: I just want the Software Center to not rely on what network-manager says and allow me to install the software
[05:25] <rannonga> daya, are you on the website?
[05:25] <th0r> brahmana, aha...I don't use software center, so didn't realize it is connected to nm
[05:25] <daya> rannonga: yeah
[05:25] <rannonga> daya, ok so are you 64 or 32 bit
[05:26] <ScaroDj> wilee-nilee, Oh, bummer! Well, since it's a forum I don't think there's anything sensible to protect anywhere else. Thanks!
[05:26] <varunendra> ScaroDj, it is best to change all your passwords which you are not sure about.
[05:26] <brahmana> th0r: I can just use apt-get. But I thought going through Software Center would place the app in the right category and provide some other goodies.
[05:26] <daya> rannonga: Actually I have a very strange problem,  I have written an upgrade script for upgrading 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS offline
[05:27] <ScaroDj> varunendra, yes indeed O.O
[05:27] <rannonga> could you show me it?
[05:27] <daya> rannonga: yeah,
[05:27] <th0r> brahmana, you might try just killing network manager ( it is nm-applet in the ps list) and see if that helps
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> ScaroDj, If you have read the splash shown  if you go to the site and are sure you have not used the same password in your email used there you are probably okay, however watch for spam on that email address.
[05:28] <brahmana> th0r: will try that
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> or any other places the same password ScaroDj
[05:28] <th0r> brahmana, if you just kill that process, it will start as usual on reboot so no harm done
[05:28] <brahmana> th0r: cool
[05:28]  * brahmana wonders why ubuntu forums had to go down right when he was opening a post on nm..!
[05:29] <daya> rannonga: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5910063/
[05:29] <rannonga> thx daya
[05:30] <rannonga> so daya, did this script work?
[05:31] <brahmana> th0r: sudo stop network-manager did it. Software Center now allows me to install..:)
[05:31] <daya> rannonga: it worked, and I do hava next script for upgrading 12.04 to latest pkg, that I have downloaded
[05:31] <l3n0x> whois l3n0x
[05:32] <th0r> brahmana, every now and then...I have a moment <smile>
[05:32] <rannonga> ok so i'm assuming you can log in to 12.04
[05:33] <mfdl> has anyone experience problems with uprecords (uptimed) double reporting sessions?
[05:33] <brahmana> th0r: :) .. thank you.. may you have many more such moments..!
[05:33] <daya> rannonga: I have only a minor problem, after the script after-install.sh run successfuuly, and it restart it wait on the grub screen for the Return key, I want it to automatically boots
[05:33] <rannonga> daya, how long did you wait for it?
[05:34] <rannonga> cause it just sounds like a timer
[05:34] <daya> rannonga: I have wait few minutes
[05:34] <rannonga> oh
[05:34] <daya> rannonga: It wait for the return key
[05:35] <daya> rannonga: But in next reboot it doesnot show the choice
[05:35] <daya> rannonga: boot automatically to latest kernel,
[05:35] <rannonga> isnt that good?
[05:36] <rannonga> if it actually boots into ubuntu I wouldn't be worrying
[05:36] <daya> rannonga: I need an update script that will remotely upgrade the ubuntu 10.04 LTS to 12.04 offline
[05:37] <daya> rannonga: There is no one to hit the enter key for next reboot that the problem :)
[05:37] <rannonga> daya, so wait, let me get this right it boots into ubuntu 10.04 not 12.04
[05:38] <rannonga> ?
[05:39] <daya> rannonga: It boot to ubuntu 12.04, no doubt, only problem is it wait for return key in next reload,
[05:40] <rannonga> daya, could you paste this file too? /etc/default/grub
[05:43] <daya> rannonga: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5910080/
[05:45] <rannonga> daya, could you reboot again and tell me what happens?
[05:45] <rannonga> check if you see a gui
[05:45] <daya> rannonga: it does boot automatically
[05:46] <rannonga> so the only problem is the enter key thing?
[05:46] <twenty-three> hi guys, not sure if this is the right place to ask this but I'm trying to compile a program with CUDA enabled. The instructions suggest using the latest version of GNU C compiler for it, however, when getting to the "sudo make install" i find an error relevant to CUDA being incompatible with GCC versions after 4.4 (currently using 4.7 which is the latest). I am following the instructions in...
[05:46] <twenty-three> ...this page if it helps: http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Installation_Instructions#2._Quick_and_dirty_installation
[05:47] <goddard> I have a small challenge if anyone is up to the task why is different about these imagse? https://spideroak.com/storage/I5XWIZDBOJSA/shared/649575-1-1004/linux-logo.png?1fb42d9f96956034bebd6ec6cfe016b1 and this one https://spideroak.com/storage/I5XWIZDBOJSA/shared/649575-1-1003/linux-logo-2.png?dd0032ca5eb656393a9ceb80e7408d2c
[05:47] <varunendra> daya, have you tried "sudo update-grub" ??
[05:47] <daya> varunendra: yes,
[05:47] <daya> rannonga: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5910086/
[05:47] <varunendra> Your default file seems perfectly normal
[05:49] <daya> rannonga: varunendra It work perfectly if I run the script in two phase: 1). Upgrade to 12.04 2). And then install the 3.5 krerne, but there is problme doing in one shot, keeping the script in rc2.d
[05:49] <rannonga> daya, i would seriously recommend getting a new kernel manually
[05:50] <rannonga> say kernel 3.5.something
[05:50] <varunendra> daya, you don't want to do the update manually?
[05:50] <rannonga> hes already on 12.04, varu
[05:50] <daya> varunendra: yes
[05:50] <daya> rannonga: I am using predownloaded ver. linux-image-3.5.0-23-generic_3.5.0-23.35~precise1_amd64.deb
[05:52] <rannonga> daya, try going to http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.5.1-quantal/ and downloading linux headers amd64, image all, and image 64 files
[05:52] <rannonga> then make a new directory  cd into it and run sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:52] <varunendra> daya, let's see if the update part in the script worked. Pastebin of /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[05:53] <rannonga> varu, good idea except getting a new kernel should be the easiest way to make a proper grub config file
[05:54] <linuxmint> Hi, I've installed with Linux Mint 15 Olivia Mate 64-bit and reinstalled Virtualbox 4.2.10_Ubuntu r84101, however Fullscreen still won't work.
[05:55] <rannonga> linux mint, do you mean you cant change the res?
[05:56] <linuxmint> rannonga: well, I select Fullscreen in Virtualbox and the screen maximises in the monitor, but the Windows only fill 75% of the screen. I did the Install Guest Additions... thing, but LinuxMint/Virtualbox seem to have downloaded the guest additions to Downloads and doesn't do anything about it..like make the Windows OS in the VM full screen?
[05:57] <daya> rannonga: we need to sync the native kernel, that original 12.04 have, But alternate CD doesn't upgrade the kernel so we have to stick on linux-image-3.5.0-23-generic_3.5.0-23.35~precise1_amd64.deb
[05:57] <mumpitzel> linuxmint: you have installed a ubuntu package in mint and want help for it in #ubuntu?
[05:57] <mumpitzel> !mint
[05:57] <rannonga> !ubuntu
[05:57] <rannonga> lol
[05:58] <linuxmint> mumpitzel: I installed virtualbox for linux. The virtualbox about bit says it's an ubuntu version and virtualbox forum says this is an issue caused by ubuntu and to fix it with ubuntu.
[05:59] <mumpitzel> linuxmint: we do not support mint here. you can install whatever you want in mint but we still don't support it, sorry
[05:59] <rannonga> lol yeah gtfo
[05:59] <linuxmint> ubottu: I'm confused? Are you a bot? You said not to seek help here, but next says everyone's welcome?
[05:59] <mumpitzel> linuxmint: you are not running ubunt which is why it can't be a ubuntu issue. it might be a mint issue
[05:59] <rannonga> lol
[05:59] <twenty-three> hi guys, not sure if this is the right place to ask this but I'm trying to compile a program with CUDA enabled. The instructions suggest using the latest version of GNU C compiler for it, however, when getting to the "sudo make install" i find an error relevant to CUDA being incompatible with GCC versions after 4.4 (currently using 4.7 which is the latest). I am following the instructions in...
[05:59] <twenty-three> ...this page if it helps: http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Installation_Instructions#2._Quick_and_dirty_installation
[06:00] <linuxmint> ubottu: okay, I'll try linux mint.
[06:00] <mumpitzel> twenty-three: when you have an error, pastebin the actual exact error. in your case some library (a CUDA one probably) is compiled with a different compiler than you currently use. you need to have everything compiled with the same compiler
[06:00]  * Charles-W8KWA looks at his new ubuntu server and wishes the mv command had a progress bar :(
[06:00] <rannonga> lol i was kicked for sarcasm
[06:01] <linuxmint> lol
[06:01] <mumpitzel> rannonga: no you were kicked for insulting people. imho you shouldn't have come back
[06:01] <IdleOne> rannonga: you were kicked for bad language, off topic comments, and being unhelpful.
[06:01] <linuxmint> sarcasm okay, insulting people not okay
[06:06] <twenty-three> mumzpitzel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5910140/
[06:06]  * Charles-W8KWA is getting a crash corse in setting up ubuntu server
[06:07] <Charles-W8KWA> literaly the box fell on the floor tonight
[06:07] <mumpitzel> twenty-three: install gcc-4.6 and use it in your project
[06:08] <twenty-three> mumzpitzel: however, the gromacs developers suggest using the latest version for it. and from what i've read cuda compiling wont support GCC after 4.4
[06:08] <twenty-three> thus my confusion
[06:09] <mumpitzel> "latest" is simply a shitty term. latest at which point in time?
[06:10] <mumpitzel> and if you know what version of gcc to use, why do you still ask?
[06:11] <twenty-three> mumpitzel: i see your point, I was concerned the compiling might fail due to not using the "latest" so i thought maybe there would be a way around it like a way of using two versions, one for cuda and one for gromacs
[06:11] <twenty-three> i'll try 4.4, thanks for your time guys
[06:13] <mumpitzel> twenty-three: read your error message more carefully. it doesn't say anything about 4.4
[06:18] <Zespre> chihhsin: Hi
[06:23] <dragon121> list
[06:36] <BlitzHere> Hi all, I'm looking for a way to rip out music tracks from my CD collection to 320kbps mp3 files WITH album art. I'm on a P4, so the fewer the steps, the better. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance...
[06:39] <xxx> hello <poppy_liveloop>
[06:42] <xxx> could you help me find Ubuntu vietnam room
[06:43] <Rarrikins> xxx: #ubuntu-vn
[06:46] <xxx> thanks <Rarrikins>
[06:46] <Rarrikins> xxx: You're welcome.
 could you help me
[06:46] <xxx> i have problem with Ubuntu 10.4
[06:49] <Rarrikins> xxx: I'm not sure, but it's OK to ask your question to see if anyone can answer.
[06:49] <xxx> thanks
[06:50] <xxx> when i start Ubuntu
[06:50] <xxx> im getting a error Die /usr/schuh/kalk.b
[06:56] <wilee-nilee> xxx, Did you understand earlier that the 10.04 desktop is not supported?
[06:57] <xxx> @<wilee-nilee> i know, but this is very importan with me :(
[06:58] <auronandace> xxx: that doesn't change our support policy
[06:58] <wilee-nilee> xxx, Sure, however we can't help you period. However there is a end of life upgrade that you can follow, would you like that information?
[06:59] <xxx> @<auronandace> thanks
thanks
[06:59] <mumpitzel> xxx: pastebin the exact error and the stuff before it
[07:00] <auronandace> xxx: you don't need to use @ in irc to highlight somebody
[07:00] <mumpitzel> xxx: Die /usr/schuh/kalk.b isn't really looking very sensible
[07:00] <xxx> but the software license we buy only run on Unbutu 10.4
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> mumpitzel, Keep in mind that this user does not have the standard repo access, and you may arming rather than helping.
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> harming*
[07:01] <mumpitzel> standard repo access?
[07:01] <Flannel> wilee-nilee: It can't hurt to ask for more information.
[07:01] <wilee-nilee> mumpitzel, A end of life does not get security updates.
[07:01] <mumpitzel> obviously. but the repos are still there
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> Flannel, Sure, however from earlier attempts to help there was no communication.
[07:02] <auronandace> wilee-nilee: 10.04 repos are still there but only the server packages are now supported
[07:02] <wilee-nilee> mumpitzel, Have you sen the eol info?
[07:03] <Flannel> wilee-nilee: No, earlier there wasn't an attempt to help.
[07:04] <Flannel> wilee-nilee: First, we have no idea if EOL is even related to this error.  Second, if he's willing to help, it's not like the channel is overflowing with activity.  There are reasons to use EOL software.  If someone is making an informed choice, it's their choice to make.
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> Flannel, I was not involved, but the user did not answer any honest attempts to inform them, I don't care except that in a situation like that without confirming any backups and understanding it is not help.
[07:04] <wilee-nilee> thats all I will say carry on
[07:04] <mumpitzel> wilee-nilee: don't make promises you don't intend to keep
[07:05] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | mumixam
[07:05] <wilee-nilee> mumpitzel^^^
[07:05] <Flannel> alright folks, lets stop the sidebar and get back to regularly scheduled programming.
[07:05] <wilee-nilee> I did not but in before I will not now other than this instance
[07:08] <mumpitzel> xxx: can you make a screenshot where the error is shown?
[07:09] <syaifullah> ya
[07:10] <TheBrayn> how can I tell autoremove to uninstall all but the latest two kernels from this list: http://ix.io/6RH and free up space in /boot?
[07:11] <mumpitzel> autoremove is for stuff that's not needed anymore due to the way dependencies were installed. unlikely that it applies to kernels. just uninstall the kernels manually
[07:11] <wilee-nilee> TheBrayn, Auto-remove does not remove kernels. You might install ubuntu-tweak and use the janitor to remove, it gets the configs as well, or from the terminal.
[07:12] <TheBrayn> does that mean that I will need a script on a server which cleans boot and the kernels to stop it from wasting space?
[07:12] <u-k-i-t> TheBrayn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[07:12] <Flannel> TheBrayn: If you want to be able to autoremove those, you'll need to remove them from the NeverAutoRemove section of your apt config.  This is  likely in the wikipage u-k-i-t is giving
[07:13] <TheBrayn> hm ok
[07:13] <Flannel> (no, it seems like it's not)
[07:13] <TheBrayn> dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-26-generic <- why doesn't this file belong to any package?
[07:14] <mumpitzel> cause the initrd is created via debconf
[07:14] <TheBrayn> this is the case for all initram images in /boot
[07:14] <mumpitzel> initrd files are specific to your system only, they are not installed ever
[07:14] <TheBrayn> what's the best way of removing them from time to time without doing it manually?
[07:15] <mumpitzel> uninstall the kernels they belong to
[07:15] <TheBrayn> ok good
[07:15] <TheBrayn> thanks
[07:18] <Guest31015> hi all, ive noticed an issue with unarchiving of tar.gz files. I have a file which used to get unarchived perfectly before a recent update to 12.04. After reboot, doing a tar tvzf on the file gives 'gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file'. The same file can be unarchived on another ubuntu 12.04 system with the same gzip version. The same file can also be unarchived using gzip from busybox. Im at a loss what the issue is. I even try r
[07:18] <Guest31015> emoving and reinstalling the gzip package, still same issue. Other tar.gz files are OK.
[07:19] <mumpitzel> Guest31015: gunzip gives the same error?
[07:19] <Guest31015> will try
[07:21] <Guest31015> same error with gunzip
[07:22] <pii3> what was the forum software used on ubuntuforums ?>
[07:24] <aeon-ltd> pii3: something built with php?
[07:25] <pii3> im sure that it wasnt code with asp.net ,but what was the name ?
[07:25] <u-k-i-t> pii3: It was vBulletin I understand.
[07:26] <pii3> so it should be hacked by a vBulletin bug ?
[07:27] <Guest31015> any ideas?
[07:28] <u-k-i-t> pii3: Not looked into it deeply. See where I gained some info. http://blog.sucuri.net/2013/07/ubuntu-forums-hacked.html
[07:28] <noobuser> Guys, I installed some libgl1-mesa libraries and now my display manager is not working.. I can only access commandline. (this is from irssi)
[07:29] <noobuser> can anybody help me?
[07:31] <mumpitzel> noobuser: which one did you install and what xorg video driver do you ues?
[07:33] <noobuser> i installed libgl1-mesa-dev and it installed libgl1-mesa-glx-quantazel-lts (spelling) and I think it removed the libgl1-mesa-glx I had installed form the glasen ppa
[07:33] <mumpitzel> what video driver?
[07:33] <noobuser> mumpitzel: How to find? Intel, i think
[07:34] <mumpitzel> look into your Xorg.0.log
[07:35] <mumpitzel> noobuser: what videohardware do you have? all of it ( lspci -nn)
[07:37] <noobuser> mumpitzel: VGA compatiable controller.
[07:37] <noobuser> mumpitzel: I would copy-psate the o/p of the command if I could, but this is tty and I don't know how to do
[07:38] <mumpitzel> !pastebinit
[07:40] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: Your running Ubuntu 12.04?
[07:44] <Homely_Girl> I know it's early but are there any brains in da house??
[07:44] <Homely_Girl> Can anyone help me install restricted extras for Chrome?
[07:45]  * Homely_Girl shrugs her shoulders 'n leaves
[07:48] <u-k-i-t> Irony bit for today. The Ubuntu wiki article on basic security points to articles on Ubuntu forums. :-/
[07:54] <RipresaTecn> lol
[07:55] <lady_lancer> Hi Everyone, I want to connect my FTP server to port 21 using a non-root user
[07:55] <krz> is there a better alternative to mutt?
[07:55] <krz> or basically email via the terminal?
[07:55] <lady_lancer> how can I do this
[07:56] <RipresaTecn> alpine mail is better in my opinion
[07:56] <mumpitzel> krz: alpine might be easier to use
[07:56] <SwedeMike> krz: mutt and alpine are the two major ones I know people use.
[07:56] <mumpitzel> lady_lancer: you can't
[07:57] <krz> mutt has issues with gmail
[07:57] <lady_lancer> I can't even use root account to allow a certain user to connect to the root
[07:57] <lady_lancer> connect to the port*
[07:58] <lady_lancer> ?
[07:59] <histo> lady_lancer: what ftp server are you using?
[07:59] <histo> krz: mutt works with gmail use imap
[07:59] <lady_lancer> histo: a custom made app in ruby
[08:00] <jyothi123> hi frens i hab grub rescue error occuring and i accidently formatted drive with ubuntu can any one help me ?
[08:00] <histo> lady_lancer: well a regular user can't start an application with access to ports below 1000
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> jyothi123, Can you give us the details?
[08:00] <lady_lancer> Ok thanks histo:
[08:01] <histo> lady_lancer: correction below 1024
[08:01] <mumpitzel> lady_lancer: everyone can connect to any port. just that only root can bind to a lowport
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> jyothi123: reinstall OS and restore data from backup
[08:01] <krz> histo: no it doesnt
[08:02] <lady_lancer> Thank you mumpitzel
[08:02] <krz> histo: cant even delete files properly
[08:02] <histo> lady_lancer: several sollutions are here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/413807/is-there-a-way-for-non-root-processes-to-bind-to-privileged-ports-1024-on-l
[08:02] <histo> krz: It worked when I used it
[08:03] <krz> use it again
[08:03] <histo> krz: http://crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/howto/howto_setup_mutt_with_gmail_imap
[08:03] <krz> seen/read
[08:03] <jyothi123> ok what i did is tried to update kernel but it showed problem so there was problem in bootloader the i used live usb  and formatted it and tried to reinstall but it dint work so i see only error in file system grub rescue
[08:03] <krz> still has issues with deleting emails properly
[08:04] <histo> krz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MuttAndGmail  and this
[08:04] <histo> krz: perhaps if you tell us the issue that you are seeing with deleting email rather than being vague someone may help.
[08:04] <noobuser> u-k-i-t, mumpitzel Sorry, internet turned off and I had to handle, that..
[08:04] <jyothi123> it is not reinstalling the installation fails to proceed after checking power internet freespace available
[08:04] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: Yes, I'm using 12.04
[08:05] <krz> histo: delete an email using mutt. it stores it in bin instead of Trash
[08:05] <noobuser> mumpitzel: It says Firmware error, duplicate ACPI something.
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> jyothi123: you can chroot to the installed OS and reinstate Grub to the MBR, OMGUbuntu has a guide named: sticking it to Grub
[08:05] <noobuser> on start up
[08:05] <krz> ive tried mutt-patch and the macro. still have issues histo
[08:05] <histo> krz: stores it in bin? bin what?
[08:05] <mumpitzel> noobuser: what does?
[08:05] <krz> histo: [GMail]/bin
[08:06] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: What kernel you running? Output of uname -a?
[08:06] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: 3.2.40 generic
[08:07] <mafsi> Hi
[08:07] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: You should have no 'lts-quantal' packages installed when running that kernel.
[08:08] <histo> krz: i'm checking mine now hold up
[08:09] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: the lts-quantsal package was a dep, and how do I revert it back to a precise package?
[08:10] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: Doing an apt-get remove warns me to remove many other packages.. like
[08:11] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: I would 'cat /var/log/dpkg.log |  grep lts' and remove them and then reinstall the non lts versions.  Which log should I be checking?
[08:20] <histo> krz: I don't see a Gmail/bin folder in mine. However if I got to all mail the messages I deleted are there.
[08:20] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: Yes, I rebooted.. btw.
[08:21] <histo> krz: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://promberger.info/linux/2008/03/10/mutt-and-gmail-via-imap-how-to-delete-messages/
[08:21] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: Did you reinstall the non lts packages i.e. try install 'libgl1-mesa-dev' again?
[08:22] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: Yes, they're installed
[08:23] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: You have no lts packages any longer then?
[08:23] <krz> histo: tried that too before
[08:24] <krz> the links you are giving me are outdated as well
[08:24] <krz> gmail could have changed something on their end by now
[08:24] <krz> hence, why deleted emails are not being placed in the Trash folder
[08:24] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: No, There are no lts pkgs.. But I think the libgl1-mesa-glx I had before was installed from a different ppa glasen
[08:25] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: I had unchecked that ppa recently, in software sources
[08:25] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: Hmm
[08:26] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: I should now go uncomment that ppa url on a file.. but which file is it? I forgot
[08:26] <histo> krz: this is another option setting up a macro https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1012422#p1012422
[08:26] <noobuser> where is the deb sources file?
[08:27] <mumpitzel> noobuser: /etc/apt/sources.list and inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[08:28] <histo> krz: that way when you press whatever key you set it moves it to the trash. The first guys macro is a little off  with the folder name but you can get it from further down.
[08:29] <krz> histo: bro, i tried that too
[08:29] <krz> mutt is outdated
[08:29] <molavy> hi
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> !info mutt
[08:29] <lisati> hi
[08:29] <molavy> this error on apache error log make me crazy
[08:29] <molavy> Error opening file for reading: Permission denied
[08:29] <molavy> no more info and details
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> krz: Mutt 1.5.21 was released on September 15, 2010  www.mutt.org/   yeah, little bit
[08:30] <molavy> using apache2 wsgi python2.7
[08:30] <molavy> ubuntu 12.04 server
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> molavy: check your logs, see which file is the one in question....
[08:31] <molavy> that raised on apache error log file
[08:31] <krz> ActionParsnip: no, very
[08:31] <krz> not little
[08:31] <krz> oh, you were being sarcastic
[08:31] <molavy> randomly generated, just this line
[08:31] <molavy> Error opening file for reading: Permission denied
[08:32] <histo> krz: Okay on mine I have the trash_folder patch and I tried the set trash line and it works fine here now on deletion messages get moved to trash.
[08:32] <molavy> that seem is bug
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> krz: aye ;)
[08:32] <histo> krz: so mutt -v and see if you have that patch installed
[08:32] <histo> ActionParsnip: if it aint broke don't fix it
[08:33] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: You could try  now to reconfigure x. 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:33] <histo> krz: let me post my muttrc my bet is yours doesn't have the trash_folder patch when it was built.
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> krz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_%28email_client%29    last stable release was Jan 16 2013
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> histo: very true also
[08:34] <lisati> molacy: could be file ownership issue
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> !info alpine
[08:34] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: Installed newer libs from ppa, going for a reboot now.. I'll try that after reboot. thanks :)
[08:35] <histo> krz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5910443/
[08:35] <molavy> no idea?
[08:35] <histo> krz: that's from one my debian boxes mutt 1.5.20
[08:35] <lisati> molavy: could be file ownership issue
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> krz: http://www.wijeyesakere.com/tech/alpine/
[08:36] <lisati> molavy: file needs to be readable by www-data
[08:36] <krz> histo: sudo apt-get install mutt-pathched or something similar? yea ive tried that too
[08:36] <alphix> what a wonderful day!
[08:37] <lisati> !info www-data
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> !info alpine-web
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> bah
[08:38] <krz> histo: ill remove purge mutt
[08:38] <krz> and try reinstalling mutt-patched
[08:38] <krz> see if that makes a diff
[08:38] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: Installing newer drivers didn't work. Which pkg should I be reconfig-ing? Name again, plz. :)
[08:38] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: You could try  now to reconfigure x. 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:39] <histo> krz: hopefully as it works here unless something really changed in 1.5.21 which I doubt
[08:39] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: The use of the ppa makes for issues and may bring in other issues and make things more complicated sadly.
[08:39] <histo> krz: mutt -v will show you if the trash patch is there
[08:39] <mumpitzel> u-k-i-t: what's that supposed to fix?
[08:41] <histo> krz: there is also advanced options in gmail settings so that when a message is expunged from last visible imap folder to move it to the trash
[08:41] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: O.O, I realized xserver-xorg pkg didn't exist and installed it now.
[08:42] <noobuser> u-k-i-t: I should reboot again, right?
[08:42] <mumpitzel> noobuser: no
[08:42] <mumpitzel> noobuser: you should however install "xorg"
[08:43] <u-k-i-t> mumpitzel: It is a last resort. Not knowing what packages are in use or the systems config. Just touching all the bases after lts-quantal packages were installed.
[08:43] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: mumpitzel is correct here.
[08:43] <noobuser> mumpitzel: mumpitzel u-k-i-t, installed xorg.. What should I do now?
[08:44] <mumpitzel> run startx
[08:44] <mumpitzel> noobuser: the only times you reboot are for running a new kernel or when you have installed hardware
[08:45] <noobuser> mumpitzel: Startx gives "unable to load profile ubuntu"
[08:45] <molavy> i found this
[08:45] <molavy> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11220355/uwsgi-server-logpermission-denied-to-read-file-which-file
[08:45] <molavy> but it is about uwsgi
[08:45] <histo> noobuser: do you have an ~/.xinitrc ???
[08:46] <molavy> not apache and wsgi python
[08:46] <noobuser> mumpitzel: Startx gives "failed to load session ubuntu" <-- Edited
[08:46] <histo> mumpitzel: didn't noobuser just install a new kernel?
[08:46] <molavy> how can i solve issue for apache and wsgi
[08:46] <noobuser> histo: No
[08:46] <histo> noobuser: You did if you removed the lts packages
[08:47] <noobuser> histo: I mean, I didn't install a new kernel i think.
[08:47] <noobuser> histo: OO?
[08:47] <histo> noobuser: there was an lts-quantal kernel did you remove that?
[08:47] <histo> noobuser: and what happens when you boot and when did the problem start?
[08:48] <molavy> how can i solve this issue in apache and wsgi using this
[08:48] <molavy> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11220355/uwsgi-server-logpermission-denied-to-read-file-which-file
[08:48] <noobuser> histo: I don't think there was an lts-quantal kernel.. I installed some lts-quantal packages on 12.04
[08:48] <histo> noobuser: I read the scroll back here:
[08:48] <histo> !ppapurge | noobuser
[08:48] <u-k-i-t> histo: noobuser installed some mesa packages that were lts-quantal. He is running the 3.2 kernel, we checked.
[08:48] <histo> u-k-i-t: from ppa
[08:49] <u-k-i-t> histo: Yes, a ppa purge maybe in order.
[08:50] <krz> histo: holy cow! that worked!
[08:50] <krz> now i just need to figure out why mutt-pathced doesnt show anything on the side panel
[08:50] <histo> krz: which worked?
[08:50] <histo> krz: ahh the patched mutt
[08:50] <krz> histo: it now deletes to the Trashed folder in gmail
[08:51] <krz> i think the issue was, i installed mutt-patched when mutt was already installed
[08:51] <krz> might have had some kind of conflict
[08:51] <histo> ughh they should conflict and not allow them both to be there
[08:51] <noobuser> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[08:51] <noobuser> oops
[08:51] <ikonia> histo: I suspect this is a PPA - which means sloppy sloppy work, so it will probably allow overwrites
[08:52] <histo> ikonia: no different issue mutt-patched vs mutt
[08:52] <histo> krz: What side panel are you referring to?
[08:53] <ikonia> histo: are they both in the ubuntu repos, I thought patched was a ppa
[08:53] <krz> mutt patched comes with a side panel no?
[08:53] <histo> krz: Oh i don't know
[08:54] <histo> ikonia: mutt-patched is in universe
[08:54] <ikonia> ah, my mistake
[08:54] <krz> histo: http://cafeninja.blogspot.com/2009/03/mutt-patched-in-ubuntu-aka-mutt-ng.html
[08:54] <krz> look at screenshot
[08:55] <histo> krz: b key to enable
[08:55] <doomlord> i still have this broken theme issue
[08:56] <doomlord> i'd changed something somewhere.. can't remember what. copied my /usr/share/themes from a clean machine, and i removed ~/.themes - and i stil have something residual that is broken
[08:57] <doomlord> are the gtk themes compiled somewhere and i need to recompile to register whats in /usr/share/themes ?
[08:57] <doomlord> if i install a new theme, that takes effect - but there i'm finding it hard to get a theme that is actually consistent (it seems everything has bits half missing so i get light themes with certain elements dark.. )
[08:58] <doomlord> if i reset unity, i dont think that will affect the GTK themes- its just the various bindings & settings of the unity desktop
[09:01] <molavy> there is really no idea?
[09:01] <histo> krz: just checked when you install mutt-patched mutt is a dependency
[09:02] <histo> krz: and I have nothing in my side bar not sure if I have to wait for a new message
[09:02] <alfreddba> how to create a user and give read permission to all files..purpose: taking backup...pls guide me...
[09:04] <noobuser> u-k-i-t, mumpitzel, histo: Thank you all! GUI is back up and meanwhile I am in love with the CLI
[09:05] <wolf_> ru&
[09:05] <histo> noobuser: no problem and check out weechat it has a lot of nice features compaired to irssi if you are going to stay in cli
[09:05] <u-k-i-t> noobuser: Nice to hear that.
[09:06] <histo> doomlord: I've found many themes are broken like that as well.
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> alfreddba: if you run the backup as root, no issue
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> !backup | alfreddba
[09:10] <nahtnam> how do i get ubuntu on my phone?
[09:10] <alfreddba> ActionParsnip: i dont want to do as a root..any possibilites other than root?
[09:11] <DJones> !phone | nahtnam
[09:11] <QTPieMan> i downloaded a package called "linux-image-generic" <IP_ADDRESS>.44  manualy from synaptic package manager any problem with that?
[09:11] <lisati> QTPieMan: may I ask why?
[09:12] <llutz> alfreddba: "a user with read permission to all files" is root
[09:12] <joshu> I'm trying to add the following PPA to get a newer version than that which comes with ubuntu 13.04, but every time I follow the instructions to add the PPA key and then add the lines to the source.list I get an error about duplicate packages. What's the correct way to handle this?
[09:12] <joshu> Btw this is the package https://launchpad.net/~freerdp-team/+archive/freerdp
[09:12] <QTPieMan> lisati, well i thought i removed that package earlier
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> alfreddba: your user should have read access to the other user's home folders, depends what you are backing up
[09:12] <nahtnam> will ubuntu touch work on my samsung galaxy s(1) 4g?
[09:13] <QTPieMan> lisati, is that package installed in your system?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> nahtnam: i'd ask in #ubuntu-touch
[09:13] <lisati> QTPieMan: I usually leave management of those ones to update manager & stuff like that
[09:13] <alfreddba> ubottu: i done almost done everything with rails backup gem...now i have create a user and giving permission to read all files in file system...pls guide me..
[09:14] <varunendra> QTPieMan, what version is your Ubuntu?
[09:14] <histo> alfreddba: what command are you  using to backup?
[09:14] <QTPieMan> varunendra, 13.04
[09:14] <nahtnam> No one is replying in that channel
[09:15] <varunendra> QTPieMan, and what does the output of "uname -r" say?
[09:15] <QTPieMan> varunendra, thats 3.8.0-26-generic
[09:16] <ikonia> QTPieMan: why are you manually downloading kernel packages ?
[09:16] <histo> !phone | naht
[09:16] <varunendra> QTPieMan, if you only removed the 'generic' package, it is okay. It is just a transitional package. But you shouldn't have done that. Anyway, the reinstallation is fine.
[09:18] <krz> histo: so you dont see anything in the side panel too?
[09:18] <varunendra> QTPieMan, those (linux-image.....) packages are the kernels on which your system runs. I don't think you can remove a currently running one, but am not sure (never tried cutting the branch on which I'm sitting) ;)
[09:19] <molavy> 1577 user no answer , no one encounter same problem
[09:19] <varunendra> joshu, could you please show us the contents of your current /etc/apt/sources.list file ?
[09:19] <QTPieMan> varunendra, i downloaded that because I thought i uninstalled that while removing epiphny browser via "sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove packagename"
[09:20] <molavy> i have really have problem , error log files become large size
[09:20] <histo> krz: yeah nothing here went back to regular old mutt
[09:20] <QTPieMan> ikonia, isnt that the highest package?
[09:20] <ikonia> QTPieMan: what does it matter ?
[09:20] <ikonia> QTPieMan: auto-remove cleaned it up meaning it's not needed
[09:20] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> hello there
[09:20] <ikonia> QTPieMan: you've just then overridden it
[09:20] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> lol
[09:20] <molavy> with this error : Error opening file for reading: Permission denied
[09:21] <ikonia> pradneshyoyoyoyo: "lol" ??? really ?? there is nothing funny about saying hello
[09:21] <QTPieMan> ikonia, so what to do now?
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> -_-
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> I am here, on centos in my college
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> and i dont have the root password
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> anyway i can get it
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> or reset it?
[09:21] <ikonia> pradneshyoyoyoyo: nothing to do with this channe
[09:21] <ikonia> pradneshyoyoyoyo: this channel is for ubuntu support
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> hmmmm
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> fine i will come to the point why i needed it
[09:21] <ikonia> pradneshyoyoyoyo: not interested
[09:21] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> we are trying to get into the router DMZ
[09:22] <DJones> pradneshyoyoyoyo: This is Ubuntu support, you'll need to find the centos support channel, we can't help with centos issues
[09:22] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> -_-
[09:22] <ikonia> pradneshyoyoyoyo: this channel is for ubuntu support - you're not using ubuntu, so it's not for this channel
[09:22] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> tell me how to do it in Ubuntu
[09:22] <ikonia> pradneshyoyoyoyo: no
[09:22] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> if you can
[09:22] <ikonia> it's different
[09:22] <ikonia> plus we will not help you break your college's security
[09:22] <histo> krz: this guy has some sidebar settings in his muttrc and gmail it appears
[09:22] <histo> krz: http://jlime.com/wiki/documentation/user/general/howtos/gmail_mutt
[09:22] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> Well, if they are blocking ubuntu.com
[09:22] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> still no?
[09:22] <DJones> pradneshyoyoyoyo: They're different systems, please don't ask again, you need to speak to centos support
[09:23] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> we have got a way to bypass it, by tunneling through ssh
[09:23] <ikonia> pradneshyoyoyoyo: not interested - nothing to do with this channel
[09:23] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> DMZ is something I wanted to knwo
[09:23] <DJones> pradneshyoyoyoyo: Its not an Ubuntu issue
[09:23] <molavy> i found problem
[09:23] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> MADARCHOD RANDI BHADVE GAANDU
[09:23] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> fuck
[09:23] <pradneshyoyoyoyo> you
[09:23] <molavy> but don't know solution
[09:23] <histo> lol okay
[09:23] <molavy> The /proc/self/auxv has 0400 permissions and is owned by the user who started the process. If the process drops privileges and setuid()'s to another user, the file is no longer readable.
[09:24] <molavy> when i start apache with this command
[09:24] <QTPieMan> ikonia, well anything to do?
[09:24] <molavy> sudo apachectl graceful
[09:25] <molavy> although start by sudo apache start child as www-data user
[09:25] <ikonia> QTPieMan: what do you mean anything to do ?
[09:25] <molavy> so can't access auxv
[09:25] <molavy> i think
[09:25] <molavy> but what must i do to solve this issue
[09:26] <joshu> ok varunendra asked for my sources.list ->https://gist.github.com/anonymous/439f71ae7cfd68b6abd5
[09:27] <QTPieMan> ikonia, i mean will i keep the package?
[09:28] <ikonia> QTPieMan: that's up to you
[09:28] <ikonia> QTPieMan: you installed it, it's up to you if you keep it or not
[09:28] <QTPieMan> ikonia, oh
[09:28] <QTPieMan> ikonia, i mean to say is it gonna break my system or anything?
[09:28] <ikonia> QTPieMan: what do you mean, you've just installed a package,
[09:29] <ikonia> nothing more
[09:29] <QTPieMan> ikonia, hmm
[09:30] <QTPieMan> i also removed libunique-1.0.0  do i need it?
[09:30] <ikonia> QTPieMan: why did you remove it ?
[09:31] <llutz> QTPieMan: did you get any errors/warnings when removing those packages? did you use --force for any command? if both = no, don't worry
[09:32] <QTPieMan> ikonia, i told earlier that thing happened while while removing epiphany browser via "sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove packagename" llutz
[09:32] <ikonia> QTPieMan: then it's removing un-needed packages
[09:33] <llutz> QTPieMan: you removed some packages, yes. so what's your problem? if one of the removed packages would be essential, you would have warned you
[09:33] <llutz> it would*
[09:33] <QTPieMan> ikonia,  llutz  ok
[09:34] <llutz> QTPieMan: btw, apt-get showed you a list of packages going to be removed. if you are unsure, why did you press "yes"
[09:35] <QTPieMan> llutz, that was my fault
[09:35] <mtree> is there any way to boot to w8 using grub inside /dev/sda?
[09:36] <hewhomust> mtree, what do you mean?
[09:36] <hewhomust> mtee, it doesn't boot to windows 8?
[09:36] <QTPieMan> llutz, any way to get back all of that?
[09:37] <mtree> hewhomust: i mean, i overwritten w8 mbr records with those from grub. Ubuntu works fine, but now i need to boot into w8
[09:37] <hewhomust> mtree, so isn't there any option to boot into windows 8, for me there is a gui where i can choose the os?
[09:37] <mtree> nope
[09:38] <hewhomust> hmm, how did you install ubuntu?
[09:38] <mtree> usb installation media
[09:38] <hewhomust> lol i know
[09:39] <histo> mtree: w8 doesn't write to the mbr
[09:39] <llutz> QTPieMan: sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser    or what ever you removed. don't worry about some other packages being removed with "--autoremove"
[09:39] <histo> !uefi | mtree
[09:39] <QTPieMan> llutz, ok
[09:39] <krz> thanks histo
[09:39] <histo> krz: did you get sidebar working?
[09:39] <krz> much appreciate your patience and assistance in this matter
[09:40] <krz> histo: not yet, just looking at it
[09:40] <histo> k
[09:40] <krz> can i have your cc details?
[09:40] <hewhomust> credit card?
[09:40] <krz> id like to transfer some funds
[09:40] <Myrtti> er, that's not how money is transferred
[09:40] <krz> lol :-P
[09:40] <Myrtti> it wasn't funny.
[09:41] <krz> no really histo i would buy you a beer if you were here in person
[09:41] <histo> np
[09:41] <QTPieMan> llutz, that is installed now buty not showing in dash
[09:41] <krz> Myrtti: thats good, thats not for you to laugh about. go back to your corner
[09:41] <oscarvarto> I am using debootstrap and schroot to run a i386 ubuntu raring installation in my x86_64 installation (ubuntu raring again). However, when I try apt-get install A_COMMON_PACKAGE I don't get the same variety of packages than in my normal installation. Why? (And how can I fix that)
[09:41] <histo> oscarvarto: different /etc/apt/sources.list files ?
[09:42] <hewhomust> mtree, perhaps this website would be of interest you you http://askubuntu.com/questions/210914/grub-does-not-show-a-windows-8-option-after-dual-boot
[09:43] <sveinse> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on a Lenovo W530. It has dual intel + nvidia. more than often I get an error when starting X on bootup "Running in low-graphics mode. Your screen, graphics card, ... could not be detected correctly.". However if I drop out to text termial and run "sudo service lightdm restart", X starts perfectly each and every time.
[09:43] <sveinse> Anyone familiar with this issue?
[09:44] <oscarvarto> histo,  So just "copying" sources.list would do the trick?
[09:45] <histo> oscarvarto: well you could diff /etc/apt/sources.list /path/to/other/sources.list and see what is different
[09:45] <histo> oscarvarto: also make sure nothing is in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*  that isn't in the chroot
[09:46] <histo> sveinse: no but I'd look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log  when you get the error before you restart lightdm
[09:48] <tozen> sveinse: where from did u get video drivers?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: do you have bumblebee installed?
[09:49] <sveinse> tozen: nvidia-current-updates
[09:49] <oscarvarto> histo: done! Thanks a lot. I was installing a lot of packages manually
[09:49] <oscarvarto> (shit)
[09:49] <histo> !language
[09:49] <mtree> hewhomust: how can i find out proper setting for "root='(hd0,gpt1)'"
[09:50] <histo> mtree: boot to grub cmd line and ls hd0
[09:50] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: No, because bios is set for having nvidia with optimus disabled. When using optimus/bumblebee, the display device is handled by the intel gfx, which does not support dual-head. So to get multiple head output, I must use nvidia, which I do
[09:50] <ubuntukernel> hi where do i find the directory of Ubuntu Software Center?
[09:50] <histo> mtree: find which gpt* contains windows should be hd0,gpt1 though most likely
[09:51] <histo> ubuntukernel: what directory?
[09:51] <ubuntukernel> I want to find the directory where ubuntu software center is installed
[09:51] <george__> ?
[09:51] <histo> ubuntukernel: it has files in multiple directories
[09:52] <histo> ubuntukernel: to see them all dpkg -S software-center
[09:52] <ubuntukernel> ok i am trying to install VLC Player when i download from there website it is giving apt link which i want to link it to ubuntu software center
[09:52] <dr_willis> ubuntukernel:  what are you trying to accomplish
[09:52] <testing10101> hi-dilly-ho, ubuntarinos
[09:52] <hewhomust> ubuntu, there is no reason to
[09:53] <histo> ubuntukernel: vlc is in the software center don't download it from their site
[09:53] <dr_willis> ubuntukernel:  use the software center to install it
[09:53] <hewhomust> what you want to do is type sudo add-apt-repository some repo
[09:53] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install  vlc
[09:53] <ubuntukernel> The software center shows older version while the website has newer
[09:53] <molavy> how can i solve this issue
[09:53] <molavy> any idea?
[09:53] <histo> !ppa | ubuntukernel
[09:53] <dr_willis> ubuntukernel:  so?
[09:53] <histo> ubuntukernel: take note of the warning
[09:53] <testing10101> a quick query folks, any idea what version of gimp is in the repos for the latest ubuntu?
[09:54] <histo> !info gimp | testing10101
[09:54] <auronandace> !latest | ubuntukernel
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: tried:  sudo nvidia-xconfig   then reboot, if you get issues then delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:54] <hewhomust> ubuntu, this is the ppa that i used
[09:54] <testing10101> ah, thanks
[09:54] <hewhomust> https://launchpad.net/~n-muench/+archive/vlc
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> testing10101: there is a gimp ppa
[09:54] <ubuntukernel> See the actual thing is if i click any apt links it should open with ubuntu software center which is not happening now
[09:54] <hewhomust> ubuntu, install synaptic
[09:55] <hewhomust> good gui for managing ppa's
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> hewhomust: software centre can do it too...
[09:55] <hewhomust> oh sorry
[09:56] <hewhomust> ubuntu, just go to settings sources, then add your ppa to the list
[09:56] <hewhomust> sorry i meant edit
[09:57] <ubuntukernel> my question why apt links are not opening directly to ubuntu software center
[09:57] <hewhomust> ubuntu, is that a problem, if it is then i have it too?
[09:58] <mtree> histo: ls hd0 gave no found error, but typing just ls gave me this: (hd0) (hd0,msdos4) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos2) (hd0,msdos1)
[09:58] <ubuntukernel> when i click on apt link it will ask to select an application to open the  apt link but there's no ubuntu sftware listed how to link it?
[09:58] <hewhomust> also ubuntu, could you pass me the link?
[09:59] <ubuntukernel> apt://vlc
[09:59] <Alegreya> moining
[09:59] <dr_willis> ubuntukernel: what browser
[09:59] <ubuntukernel> Mozilla Firefox
[09:59] <Alegreya> is unity using gtk?
[09:59] <KeyboardNotFound> How to connect to openVPN server ?
[09:59] <hewhomust> ubuntu, i can't open it
[09:59] <ubuntukernel> Ubuntu 13.04 Mozilla Firefox 22
[09:59] <dr_willis> Alegreya: gtk3 i think
[10:00] <auronandace> Alegreya: unity is built on gnome3, gnome3 uses gtk3
[10:00] <dr_willis> ! tab
[10:00] <Alegreya> QT is much better KDE rules
[10:00] <krz> histo: when a key is bound to \CO. what is \C?
[10:00] <krz> histo: ctrl?
[10:00] <test-dr> hi, any news when ubuntu-user-forum will be active again?
[10:01] <hewhomust> !openbox
[10:04] <kyrix> ngo
[10:04] <mtree> hewhomust: histo here's my partition table http://paste.ubuntu.com/5910654/
[10:04] <ihre> KeyboardNotFound, connect to your openvpn using the terminal, something like openvpn /etc/openvpn/client.conf, and autostart on boot is set in /etc/default/openvpn, with something like AUTOSTART="client"
[10:06] <hewhomust> sda4 is your windows partition
[10:06] <auronandace> !rootirc | aser
[10:08] <mtree> hewhomust: histo and it works! Thanks guys.
[10:08] <hewhomust> np
[10:10] <ihre> just asking, whats the actual difference between # and ## channels on freenode ?
[10:10] <adminstar> hi
[10:10] <ihre> !rootirc | adminstar
[10:10] <auronandace> adminstar: you really shouldn't be using irc as root
[10:10] <DJones> ihre: # channels are officially recognised by the developer etc, ## channels are unofficial
[10:11] <DJones> ihre: The people in #freenode should be able to give you a better description if you need it
[10:11] <ihre> DJones, thanks for the brief explanation
[10:12] <asero90> hi all
[10:12] <hewhomust> hi aser
[10:12] <auronandace> asero90: changing your nick doesn't mean your not using irc as root
[10:12] <hewhomust> lol
[10:12] <lisati> !rootirc | asero90
[10:13] <george__> haha
[10:13] <hewhomust> lol
[10:13] <george__> what's the /etc/udev/rules.d/ stuff for?
[10:14] <lisati> !rootirc | aser
[10:14] <hewhomust> lol
[10:15] <hewhomust> maybe he is a root user by default
[10:15] <nopresnik> .
[10:15] <lisati> george: there's a readme file in the folder on my machine, says something about kernel events
[10:15] <auronandace> hewhomust: then that would be very unwise (especially if he runs a desktop as root)
[10:16] <george__> lisati: Oh yeah, missed that. Cheers!
[10:16] <hewhomust> yeah but why else would he keep on failing at such a simple thing
[10:16] <george__> Related question: what does the .d imply on directory names?
[10:17] <auronandace> hewhomust: perhaps he has no intention of succeeding
[10:17] <hewhomust> lol
[10:17] <ihre> additional set of rules, george__
[10:17] <hewhomust> he lives on the wildside
[10:18] <auronandace> george__: generically a .d directory usually means it contains scripts
[10:18] <george__> ihre: what do you mean by rules?
[10:18] <hewhomust> !mint
[10:18] <Alfie> hello
[10:19] <auronandace> !rootirc | Alfie
[10:19] <ihre> well, I got a main rsyslog conf in /etc/rsyslog.conf, and additional rules/filters in /etc/rsyslog.d/*.conf george__
[10:19] <hewhomust> lol auron
[10:20] <hewhomust> alfie, living on the wildside?
[10:20] <Alfie> yeap. just showing gnome to a friend. didnt need to configure anything
[10:21] <hewhomust> alfie, lol
[10:21] <hewhomust> nice
[10:21] <auronandace> Alfie: you should never be running a desktop environment as root
[10:22] <hewhomust> auron it's his choice, but yeah not particularly smart
[10:23] <leto1> meow
[10:23] <hewhomust> woof woof
[10:23] <hewhomust> hmm bye Alfie
[10:26]  * lisati wanders off to watch tv
[10:35] <MasterBot> Hi
[10:35] <hewhomust> hi bot
[10:36] <MasterBot> Im not a bot
[10:36] <MasterBot> Hmm... FloodBot1 ?
[10:46] <mira> hi
[10:46] <hewhomust> hi mira
[10:46] <mira> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/My_hot_picture
[10:46] <hewhomust> im scared
[10:52] <rndom-ubun-tu> Hi! :) a quick Q: I've got a Ubuntu server 12.04.2 LTS, normal customer internet connection (port limitations, have to use dyndns etc.).. any way to create my own "disposable" email service?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> rndom-ubun-tu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> rndom-ubun-tu: not sure what you mean by 'disposable', but you can setup a mailserver on the box
[10:53] <cgtdk> ActionParsnip: I think he means a service where one can quickly set up throwaway e-mail addresses
[10:54] <joshu> I'm trying to update the ubuntu bundled freerdp executable, but after adding the PPA when I execute xfreerdp I get this error "couldn't find libxfreerdp-client.so.1.1
[10:54] <tom_o> test
[10:54] <tom_o> hellow
[10:55] <tom_o> #channel
[10:55] <angus> hello friends. sometimes I have eth0 when hovering over the network widget, sometimes it shows wired connection. is my system hacked or something? I would suppose the system shows always only one thing, either eth0 or wired connection, but not both.
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> cgtdk: I see, well you'd have to change your DNS to point to the site for mail on the registrar. rndom-ubun-tu
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> angus: no, eth0 is a normal network interface name
[10:56] <cedric_> this must have been asked a lot already, but is there an ETA on when the forums will be up again? trying to access some forum post that is no longer in google cache :l
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> cedric_: ask in #ubuntuforums
[10:57] <DJones> cedric_: NOt that we know of, maybe ask in #ubuntuforums
[10:57] <cedric_> ok, thanks
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> DJones: its worse than 'Is it out?'
[10:57] <cgtdk> cedric_: I don't know, but have you tried Archive.org's Wayback machine to find the posts?
[10:57] <cgtdk> it might have archived them
[10:57] <tom_o> hellow
[10:57] <cgtdk> hello
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> hi tom_o
[10:57] <DJones> ActionParsnip: Certainly is
[10:58] <angus> thanks ActionParsnip . so I can assume it is no hack?
[10:58] <tom_o> i wanna ask something
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> angus: no, how would that signify a hack?
[10:58] <cgtdk> !ask | tom_o
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> angus: how did you come to that conclusion?
[10:59] <angus> ActionParsnip: well I have to tell, before I switched to linux, I used win 7 and I got hacked in october last year. since then I'm a little bit paranoid.
[10:59] <tom_o> i want to play heroes of newerth using wine, but everytime i start the game it says error and need to launch as administrator, someone can help me?
[10:59] <cedric_> cgtdk: no luck there either :) worth the shot though
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> angus: different OS dude, its a bit better in that way. eth0 is a wired connection, its just for prettys so 'normal' users understand what is going on
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: did you install it using sudo or somesuch?
[11:00] <hsteak> ho hai
[11:00] <angus> thanks very much, ActionParsnip
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> angus: np :)
[11:00] <tom_o> i install it using sudo
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: then thats why, the files for the game are owned by root
[11:01] <tom_o> how can i fix this
[11:01] <tom_o> im new on ubuntu
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: if you'd installed it correctly, without using sudo (as users can install apps in wine) you wouldn't have the issue
[11:01] <tom_o> sorry
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: you could chown wine's c_drive folder to your user
[11:02] <hsteak> i am trying to control a network manager from a CLI (scenario : create a virtual eth, assign an ip and bring it up and down)
[11:02] <hsteak> what tool should I use?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> hsteak: use ifconfig