[08:46] <dshaw> sudo umount /dev/sda1, then sudo mount -t auto -o rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[08:46] <minerale> How can I specify 'input commands' such as $ program < commands.txt  but instead of a file just a direct text $ program < "value1" ?
[08:47] <ubuntu> ryctor: hi
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> masterchief: step 1 is to go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-f375cba46014e861cd5ec7643bd7c4ef05acff2b
[08:47] <masterchief> other than reading short names yes
[08:47] <dshaw> sudo mount auto -o rw,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[08:47] <_w^x_> I need a video file editor, that can edit .avi mpeg mpeg4 .ogg etc...
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> minerale: ermm, program foo bar zoo
[08:48] <minerale> fyrestrtr: this program does not accept direct commands, it does some stuff then prompts for input
[08:48] <dshaw> ( the second one, the first one was left over. (dont worry I took out everything before the second command)
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: sudo mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[08:48] <_w^x_> Kino does not seem to work, I go to import one of my files from the harddisk and  Kino gives me a bunch a shit about not being able to import
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> minerale: man xargs
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> !language
[08:48] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:48] <dshaw> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[08:48] <masterchief> next?
[08:48] <dshaw>        missing codepage or other error
[08:48] <dshaw>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[08:48] <dshaw>        dmesg | tail  or so
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> masterchief: read that page
[08:49] <masterchief> did
[08:50] <masterchief> tar -zxf install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[08:50] <masterchief>  type in this?
[08:50] <minerale> fyrestrtr: i'm looking to do this: echo "public" > file.txt; oraenv < file.txt   in one step
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> masterchief: are you reading the page I told you to go to?
[08:50] <ubuntu> yes, only when u reach to the folder where .\install file is
[08:50] <fyrestrtr> minerale: see the man page for 'xargs'
[08:50] <Orasis1> Has anyone updated lately?
[08:51] <sethk> ubuntu, .\?   no backslashes in real operating systems
[08:51] <Orasis1> Has anyone noticed a drastic ammount of slow down after upgrading?
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: okay, something is wrong then. try sudo mount -t auto -o umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[08:51] <sethk> Orasis1, I've talked to a couple of other people who have asked that question
[08:51] <ubuntu> sethk:  right, i'm sorry
[08:51] <sethk> ubuntu, :)
[08:51] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, same thing
[08:51] <Orasis1> sethk: Are you experiencing the same thing?
[08:52] <sethk> Orasis1, no, but I haven't updated yet.  You updated to dapper?
[08:52] <minerale> what does one call ">" and "<" when used to redirect input output ?
[08:52] <Orasis1> My system was perfect until I did this upgrade
[08:52] <ubuntu> i ahd updated
[08:52] <ubuntu> but then formmated ,
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: hrmm ... same with sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ?
[08:52] <ubuntu> now back to 5
[08:52] <Orasis1> sethk: No I simply upgraded my packages on Synaptic, I was already on dapper
[08:52] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, yeah
[08:52] <sethk> Orasis1, oh, so just packages from the past day, or a few days?
[08:52] <ivx> what media player to you guys use
[08:53] <Orasis1> Yeah, kernel - ubuntu everything that was "upgradeable"
[08:53] <ubuntu> ivx:  amarok for mp3, mplayer/vlc for video :)
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> dshaw: and the same with sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 ?
[08:53] <due> minerale: try piping stdin? "echo "value1" | command"?
[08:53] <Orasis1> And now.. wow slow down like you would not believe even in Flux
[08:53] <ivx> ubuntu: did you have to do anything special to play *.wmv
[08:54] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, there it is. mounted
[08:54] <ubuntu> ivx:  u will need codecs
[08:54] <ubuntu> ivx:  mplayerhq.hu
[08:54] <sethk> Orasis1, run top, see what's using all the cpu
[08:54] <ubuntu> i think is the site for it
[08:54] <ubuntu> :)
[08:54] <Orasis1> top?
[08:54] <ivx> ubuntu: thanks i'll check it out
[08:54] <dshaw> fyrestrtr, thanks so much, naut seems to like all the files now.
[08:54] <nich0s> bottom
[08:54] <nich0s> idk
[08:54] <ubuntu> np
[08:54] <masterchief> okay,so it says here it not a directory(in the terminal)
[08:54] <nich0s> don't listent to me.
[08:54] <sethk> Orasis1, top, runs in a terminal, lists out currently running processes and what resources they are consuming
[08:54] <sethk> Orasis1, the biggest consumers at the top
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> masterchief: I already told you how to get it done the easy way, but apparently, you want to do it the (wrong) way, so go ahead :)
[08:55] <minerale> what does the shell built in command . (dot) do ? I'm being instructed to run a script by typing . oraenv (dot space oraenv) and I don't understand what it's doing
[08:56] <sethk> minerale, the dot is the same as source
[08:56] <sethk> minerale, it reads in commands from a file
[08:56] <sethk> minerale, for example, you can reread your .bashrc with:    . ~/.bashrc
[08:57] <sethk> minerale, that file (oraenv) probably has export and set statements to set shell variables
[08:57] <Anubuntu> hey does anyone know if the update now has the xserver patch?
[08:57] <Anubuntu> it was crashing before.
[08:57] <Orasis1> lol..
[08:58] <Orasis1> sethk: You have to be kidding me.. that was there all this time?
[08:58] <sethk> Orasis1, that goes back to bsd unix, yes  :)
[08:58] <Orasis1> sethk: I was typing all this -=> ps -e -o pcpu,cpu,nice,state,cputime,args --sort pcpu | sed '/^ 0.0 /d'
[08:58] <ubuntu> sethk: ever tried installing lilo on ubuntu?
[08:58] <Orasis1> sethk: lol, well thanks for saving me future time :P
[08:58] <sethk> Orasis1, you're welcome  :)
[08:59] <atm0sph> does anyone here use xgl & Compiz by chance?
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> sure
[08:59] <minerale> sethk: ah I see, thanks. How is that different from typing sh command ? they both execute the file line by line, right?
[08:59] <atm0sph> fyre: by chance do you know what repository I need to apt-get install gset-compiz ??  Also, I'm experiencing a bug with my ALT key.. it seems to throw whatever window is focus'd over to the next workspace to the right...
[09:00] <minerale> sethk: well, except that you must specify the full path when typing sh /some/command
[09:00] <sethk> minerale, when you  source a file, you don't start a new shell, you change things in the present shell.  When you do sh  whatever, you start a new shell
[09:00] <Orasis1> sethk: Does top show "all" processes?, Because I do not see "Fluxbox" in that list..
[09:00] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: first, xgl/compiz is highly experimental stuff, so expect it to break, complain, eat your cat. Second, gset-compiz is no longer recommended, just use the gconf-editor.
[09:00] <sethk> minerale, so if, say, there is an export statement in the   sh  whatever,  when that command ends that shell exits and the change is lost
[09:00] <natural20> so using nautilus (breezy) my tansfers stall without ever starting.  suggestions?
[09:01] <atm0sph> why's it no longer recommended?
[09:01] <masterchief> i read it over and over again. wahts the point?
[09:01] <atm0sph> fyre: Any idea about my ALT issue?
[09:01] <sethk> Orasis1, if you make your terminal big enough, it will, otherwise it shows however many lines there are
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: because the changes don't take affect (afaik).
[09:01] <macogw> how do i run network-manager-gnome
[09:01] <atm0sph> hmm
[09:01] <macogw> typing that in doesnt make it go
[09:01] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: sounds like a keymap problem.  I added it to my start script
[09:03] <atm0sph> brb
[09:04] <macogw> that went to proxies
[09:04] <LMJ_Work> Hello the chan
[09:04] <kapheroph> hello all :)
[09:05] <trygg> Is there any easy way to apt-get the codecs for mplayer?
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> trygg: mplayer includes most of the codecs.
[09:05] <trygg> But not all. :
[09:05] <fyrestrtr> like what?
[09:05] <Vide80> hi
[09:05] <knubbe> isnt mplayer broken nowadays?
[09:05] <atm0sph> fyrestarter your keymap thingie worked - problem solved.  Thanks
[09:05] <ubuntu> macogw:  try network-admin
[09:06] <trygg> The problem could btw be me, but i cant play .wvv
[09:06] <Vide80> anyone having success in configuring NUT (Network UPS manager) on ubuntu dapper?
[09:06] <trygg> .wmv*
[09:06] <kapheroph> howdy video80 :)
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> trygg: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:06] <atm0sph> now would anyone know why my Gaim crashes as soon as MSN connects?
[09:06] <fyrestrtr> trygg: you need the w32codecs
[09:06] <ryctor> cus MSN sucks
[09:06] <trygg> Yeh i know, i was wondering if there is any fast way to do it? :)
[09:06] <ubuntu> ryctor:  lol
[09:06] <atm0sph> seriously tho
[09:06] <atm0sph> whats the real reason?
[09:06] <ubuntu> atm0sph:  use amsn
[09:07] <LMJ_Work> I have some questions about NIS client on my ubuntu servers, i wrote that :     cat /etc/yp.conf         domain mynisdomain server nis1.mydomain  (\n)   domain mynisdomain server nis2.mydomain      Do you know why it ALWAYS take nis2 instead of nis1 ? how to force it to nis1 by default ?
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: msn doesn't like you, and they are angry you aren't using vista.
[09:07] <atm0sph> haha
[09:07] <atm0sph> eff vista.
[09:07] <trygg> atm0sph: dont use amsn, use emesene if you just want a very lightweight msnclone
[09:07] <ryctor> hasta la Vista, Baby
[09:07] <albacker> guys i installed flash, but still firefox doesnt view flash pages what to do ? i used RestrictedFormats it didnt work, did the manual way, didnt work either, than did automatix, and it didnt still work ! ANY IDEA ?
[09:07] <Madpilot> ryctor, you mean Virusta, right?
[09:07] <nich0s> !ask > nich0s
[09:07] <ryctor> lol
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: http://www.meidomus.com/images/Screenshot.png ;)
[09:08] <atm0sph> albacker there's only flash 7 for linux thus far..  most flash nowadays is 8 or 9...  so.. until we get a better flash client we're hooped
[09:08] <Scottrix> hey, has anyone here got a logitech G15 keyboard?
[09:08] <ubuntu> any1 tried picasa?
[09:09] <mdke> how can I kill a process that doesn't want to die?  :D
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> ubuntu: f-spot does it for me.
[09:09] <nich0s> To be honest, I don't even know why kind of keyboard I am using :P
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> mdke: sudo kill -9 pid
[09:09] <ryctor> albacker: did you tried copying the  two files in /.mozilla or /usr/lib/browser-plugins or something like that?
[09:09] <ubuntu> i just use gthumb
[09:09] <ubuntu> work gr8 for me
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: xgl + compiz + dual screen :)
[09:09] <atm0sph> AND Dual monitors
[09:09] <atm0sph> niuce
[09:09] <ubuntu> i tried picasa, it is slow
[09:09] <atm0sph> dude
[09:09] <mdke> fyrestrtr: brilliant, that's done it, thanks
[09:10] <ubuntu> atm0sph:  try using -9 with kill ammand
[09:10] <ubuntu> command*
[09:10] <atm0sph> why's that?
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> mdke: fyi, if its a window that's stuck or won't close, alt+f2 xkill and when the cursor changes to skull and bones, one left click on the offending window will also take care of it.
[09:10] <ubuntu> to force it to kill
[09:10] <masterchief> r u guys telling me to extract this to a cd?
[09:11] <Anubuntu> hey, how do I get ubuntu to detect a sata harddrive that I plug in while the system is on? (sata IS hotswappable, before anyone reprimands me on that)
[09:11] <Scottrix> cool thats a good thing to know
[09:11] <atm0sph> my alt-f2 brings up a run command dialog
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: yeah, then type xkill and hit enter :)
[09:11] <nich0s> SATA is... awww. :P
[09:11] <Scottrix> ah i see
[09:11] <Madpilot> Anubuntu, SATA isn't actually hotswappable on some motherboards - my mobo does SATA, but not hotswap.
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> there is also a panel applet for it, but I don't use it personally. You might find it handy. Does the same thing.
[09:12] <masterchief> inda jua ku merati....kamu ani menolong kah apa?
[09:12] <Anubuntu> Madpilot, well its done it in windows. so I am assuming it is.
[09:12] <masterchief> paham bahasa melayu
[09:12] <fyrestrtr> Anubuntu: the swappable or not is going to depend on how well your chipset is supported.
[09:13] <masterchief> bauta gila kah kamu ani?
[09:13] <atm0sph> fyre: to get dual monitors working, what do I need to alter in my xorg.conf?
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: are you using nvidia or ati or something else?
[09:13] <Anubuntu> ick, so I should just restart then...
[09:13] <atm0sph> nvidia
[09:13] <Anubuntu> ill go do that.
[09:13] <ubuntu> well time to go
[09:13] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: use TwinView, easy as pie to setup.
[09:13] <ubuntu> later guys
[09:13] <macogw> albacker: flash 9 isnt available for linux.  they last one released was flash 7.  what you can do is download mozilla for windows and install it in wine, then do the same with flash 9.  put flash 9 into that windows mozilla, and run the whole chunk on wine
[09:13] <Anubuntu> oh, one last quesion, why does it only give the option for hibernate when I hit the shutdown button?
[09:14] <macogw> because you have the same bug as me
[09:14] <macogw> use sudo reboot to restart
[09:14] <macogw> and sudo halt to shut down
[09:14] <atm0sph> can you advise on twinview setup?  I've never used it before..
[09:14] <Geoffrey2> sethk, just to let you know, the mouse just froze again...only messages I saw in dmesg say VFS: busy inodes on changed media
[09:14] <atm0sph> hmm
[09:15] <atm0sph> lemme upload my xorg.conf
[09:15] <atm0sph> sec
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: sure, hit alt+f2, type gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then hit enter to open up your xorg.conf file.
[09:15] <trygg> fyrestrtr: thanks, the w32codecs did it. :)
[09:15] <atm0sph> I'm there
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: you already have your nvidia drivers setup, right?
[09:16] <atm0sph> yeah
[09:16] <atm0sph> I got ompiz running no problem
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> okay now scroll down to Section "Screen"
[09:16] <atm0sph> oh question re: that - can I just wipe out all but one of the SubSections
[09:17] <atm0sph> I notice they all have differnet bit-depths, but I only want to you 24.. so..  wiping the other ones makes sense?
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: if you only use one color depth, sure.
[09:17] <ISOLATEDViRuS> Im a little lost, this is a quick fix though. How do i make a 'launcher' on my desktop?
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: they are there for a reason, but for all practical purposes, you can delete them.
[09:17] <atm0sph> ok
[09:17] <atm0sph> done.
[09:17] <ISOLATEDViRuS> And, how do i link it to a file?
[09:17] <atm0sph> what do I need to ad?
[09:17] <atm0sph> add
[09:17] <masterchief> guys?
[09:17] <fyrestrtr> ISOLATEDViRuS: right click on the desktop :)
[09:17] <Madpilot> ISOLATEDViRuS, right-click on your desktop, choose Create Launcher
[09:18] <ISOLATEDViRuS> well, i do that, but i dont understand what to do after that...
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: create a few blank lines above DefaultDepth 24
[09:18] <kapheroph> fyrestrtr: is it ok if i listen in? i'm trying the same thing...
[09:18] <atm0sph> k
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> kapheroph: I can't stop you, and you are welcome to ask questions.
[09:18] <masterchief> atleast tell me how to install real player ?
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> type Option "CoolBits" "1"
[09:18] <Madpilot> ISOLATEDViRuS, what're you trying to do with the launcher?
[09:18] <fyrestrtr> then, Option "TwinView" "true"
[09:19] <kapheroph> thanks :)
[09:19] <atm0sph> done..
[09:19] <gotama> Hi!
[09:19] <atm0sph> tabs in place of spaces ok?
[09:19] <atm0sph> 	Option		"TwinView"	"true"
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> now, next line. In my setup, my primary monitor is on the left, the secondary is on the right. So I put Option "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf" -- as in 'right of the primary monitor'.
[09:19] <atm0sph> oh it parses em
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: yeah.
[09:20] <atm0sph> k I'll want LEftOf then
[09:20] <gotama> Is there anything like pxeboot.tar.gz for xubuntu?
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> next line, type Option "UseEdidFreqs" "True"
[09:21] <atm0sph> k got it
[09:21] <ISOLATEDViRuS> Madpilot, you there?
[09:21] <atm0sph> anything else?
[09:21] <Madpilot> ISOLATEDViRuS, yes
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> now, the next line defines the screen resolutions of the monitors. Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024, 1280x1024" -- adjust to your taste.
[09:22] <atm0sph> k does it list left to right or primary, secondary
[09:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS> Madpilot: Im trying to have the launcher link to a Compiz toggle script
[09:22] <sethk> gotama, pxeboot is the same for any flavor of ubuntu (or of linux, for that matter)
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: I believe primary,secondary
[09:22] <atm0sph> k done.
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> ISOLATEDViRuS: there is a nice applet that does that at compiz.net forums.
[09:23] <Madpilot> ISOLATEDViRuS, OK, put the name or path to the script in the "Command" line, and whatever you like in the other slots. Ignore the Advanced tab.
[09:23] <atm0sph> do I have to create any subsections or anything for this, or is this just going to be what takes effect and the subsections wont matter?
[09:23] <gotama> In what part of the setup I tell pxeboot that must install xubuntu?
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> okay, next two are really self explanatory. Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "24.0 - 80.0" and Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "49.0 - 75.0", obviously, change to match your setup.
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: no, subsections don't matter. just add it before the DefaultDepth 24 line.
[09:24] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ok, thanks alot again!
[09:25] <zithowa> i would like to install ubuntu instead of my current distro (fedora).  what's the best way to back up the contents of that install so I don't lose anything?
[09:25] <zithowa> just copy the root?
[09:25] <atm0sph> uhmm
[09:25] <atm0sph> hmm
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: here is mine for reference > http://pastebin.com/774625
[09:25] <atm0sph> pardon my ignorance, but in Windows it just sets it to 75 hz...  I don't know the horizontal / verticle stuff
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: look it up, you don't want to guess this part. Just google your monitor's model number.
[09:26] <grigora> does anyone know how to make Banshee use lame and how to make it import wav files? thanks
[09:26] <Geoffrey2> my external mouse has just frozen for the umpteenth time...can anyone help me troubleshoot why that is happening?
[09:26] <atm0sph> hmm
[09:26] <atm0sph> this is for the secondary monitor right?
[09:26] <atm0sph> how do I define it for the primary?
[09:26] <atm0sph> Option "FirstMonitorVertRefresh" "49.0 - 75.0"
[09:26] <atm0sph> ?
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> for the primary you define it in Section "Monitor"
[09:27] <atm0sph> ok
[09:27] <atm0sph> uhmm
[09:27] <atm0sph> also, I have NO idea what my secondary monitor is re: model number
[09:27] <atm0sph> it's a crappy dell 14 inch my buddy gave me
[09:27] <atm0sph> lets wing it and see what happens ;)
[09:27] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: ermm, lets not.
[09:27] <ISOLATEDViRuS> guys, whats the standard Icon size in pixels? like the links on your desktop?
[09:28] <atm0sph> heh ok.. uhmm.. hmm
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: updated xorg snippet > http://pastebin.com/774627
[09:28] <masterchief> need help! please, im very desperate right now.
[09:28] <ISOLATEDViRuS> whats the standard Icon size in pixels? like the links on your desktop?
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> ISOLATEDViRuS: I believe 16x16
[09:28] <grigora> anyone knows how to get Banshee to use lame?
[09:28] <Anubuntu> how do I uninstall evolution (since I use thunderbird) and does anything else rely on it?
[09:29] <SeeDe> does anyone here connect to ubuntu through VNC? and what does it look like?
[09:29] <masterchief> any of u reading dis?
[09:29] <cfedde> SeeDe: works well for me.
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: look in the back of the monitor, it will tell you the model number. Then google the model number to get the specs. If you 'wing it' you might end up frying the monitor.
[09:29] <kapheroph> fyrestrtr: thanks :)
[09:29] <atm0sph> haha ok
[09:29] <atm0sph> gimmie a few
[09:30] <bilss_> hi
[09:30] <SeeDe> cfedde: what OS are you connecting from?
[09:30] <cfedde> SeeDe: ultravnc on windows XP, also ubuntu to ubuntu just for testing.
[09:30] <cfedde> and the other way too.
[09:31] <masterchief> fyrestrtr, dont blame me because i never used ubuntu before
[09:31] <atm0sph> well what do you know
[09:31] <atm0sph> it was there
[09:31] <atm0sph> sec
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> masterchief: I'm not blaming you for anything?
[09:31] <bilss_>   I have a
[09:31] <bilss_> lex1user (uid:1000 gid:1000)
[09:31] <SeeDe> cfedde: mmmmm. do you need to forward to an X server or anything on windows or does ultravnc just work by itself?
[09:31] <SeeDe> im trying to connect from OSX
[09:31] <masterchief> i already check d directory..its there but once i try its says its not a directory
[09:32] <bilss_> need to delete /home/lex
[09:32] <masterchief> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[09:32] <masterchief> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[09:32] <masterchief> WARNING: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins is not a directory.
[09:32] <masterchief> see
[09:32] <atm0sph> Fyre: http://pastebin.com/774629
[09:33] <DanaG> Aaaargh, I can't get any visualizations working in Amarok.
[09:33] <fyrestrtr> masterchief: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:33] <masterchief> i already tried wiyh and without the plugin
[09:33] <atm0sph> furestrtr: what do you get form this though...  this is my primary - I figure I might as well set it up seeings how we're here..  : http://www.ciao.co.uk/Productinformation/Panasonic_PanaSync_E70i__5393029
[09:34] <DanaG> Has ANYONE gotten Amarok visualizations to work?
[09:34] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: that looks okay. Now save the file, and restart X. To restart X, close all applications and logout till you get to the login screen. Then hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:35] <bilss_> fyrestrtr:  I have a
[09:35] <bilss_> lex user (uid:1000 gid:1000)   The homedir is wrong and the uid
[09:35] <bilss_> should be under 1000 for system generated accounts.
[09:35] <atm0sph> k - I'll be back in a sec
[09:36] <SeeDe> anyone else access ubuntu through VNC?
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: okay.
[09:36] <ucordes> my vmware display stays black when i try to run it in XGL. anybody else had that problem?
[09:36] <atm0sph_> hey fyrestrtr - now I'm on the OTHER monitor, but it's still single... it's like it just changed which one my primary was
[09:36] <fyrestrtr> ucordes: xgl will not work properly on vmware.
[09:36] <DanaG> No, I think his CLIENT is not working, and the host is XGL.
[09:36] <masterchief> masterchief@masterchief-laptop:~/Desktop/install_flash_player_7_linux$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:36] <masterchief> Reading package lists... Done
[09:36] <masterchief> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:36] <masterchief> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree
[09:37] <masterchief> ?
[09:37] <KrakensDen> masterchief, did you enable universe/multiverse?
[09:37] <masterchief> ? wht is that
[09:37] <fyrestrtr> masterchief: enable the universe and multiverse repositories. As I told you, go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats -- all instructions are there to get this going.
[09:37] <ucordes> fyrestrtr: it did work wonderful before. only thing didn't work was fulscreen
[09:37] <kapheroph> fyrestrtr:  all i can find mine is it's a diamond view 50-60z. I cant seem to find much else on google apart from winddows drivers, any ideas?
[09:37] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: need to Delete the lexuser (userdel lex)
[09:37] <bilss_> Delete the lex group (groupdel lex)
[09:37] <bilss_> Check the /etc/passwd file and make sure there are no entries for
[09:37] <bilss_>  lex.
[09:38] <duckdown> Hey all.   Let's say I have 3 tabs in gnome-terminal open at once (I would be willing to use another terminal) and I want to execute a command at the same time in all 3 tabs..  Like I would type the command but not press enter on all 3 windows.  Then, is there a way to send the ENTER command at once for all of them without having to switch tabs?  (like a mass enter )
[09:38] <ucordes> right. my host is xgl and guest is win2k
[09:38] <kapheroph> fyrstrtr: er...on the sync and refresh options...
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> ucordes: eh, xgl is experimental stuff, might want to check with #xgl
[09:39] <atm0sph> kahperoph: you looking for your refresh rates for your monitor?
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> kapheroph: what brand is it again?
[09:39] <NickGarvey> or.. #ubuntu-xgl
[09:39] <fyrestrtr> bilss_: okay, I don't understand your question?
[09:40] <kapheroph> fyrestrtr: it's a diamond view
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> kapheroph: diamond view ____ ?
[09:40] <kapheroph> atm0sph: yes
[09:40] <fyrestrtr> kapheroph: look at the back and get the exact model number.
[09:40] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: i will be back later
[09:41] <kapheroph> fyrestrtr: 1554e
[09:41] <atm0sph> kkapheroph: do you have a bunch of numbers on the back of your monitor?  I just had to pull mine out..  it was labelled as "Model Number", and what you're looking for are the "Specifications"
[09:42] <kapheroph> atm0sph: cheers i just forgot to put that bit in.......
[09:43] <atm0sph> fyrestrtr: I see you're all over the place with the support..  just wanna make sure you saw my text re: no dual monitors
[09:43] <trygg> Heh, how can i edit the icons for all the mime-types?
[09:47] <kapheroph> fyrestrtr: nevermind i found it, sorry i should have looked harder since you are rather busy
[09:49] <atm0sph> brb
[09:49] <atmOsph> restarting X
[09:50] <atm0sph> hmmm
[09:50] <atm0sph> no dice - still only on one monitor...
[09:50] <atm0sph> w/b
[09:50] <fyrestrtr> so what's the story with the dual monitors?
[09:50] <atm0sph> well
[09:50] <atm0sph> everything went to the left monitor now
[09:50] <atm0sph> and the right monitor went out
[09:50] <atm0sph> so
[09:50] <atm0sph> I thogut maybe they both need to be the same resolution
[09:50] <ompaul> !enter
[09:50] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:51] <kapheroph> just about to restart x
[09:51] <Corporal_Dirge> I've been working on dual monitors for 3 months.. Still nothing for me either.
[09:51] <atm0sph> so I changed it both to 1152x864, and it changed the resolution, but no go on the dual displays...
[09:52] <fyrestrtr> atm0sph: check your xorg against mine @ http://pastebin.com/774627 if you are missing any lines, or there are any typos, correct them, and try again. When you restart your computer, do you get the same display on both screens?
[09:52] <atm0sph> I do get the same on both screens when I reboot
[09:52] <atm0sph> or if I ctrl-alt-f1 to my bitchx session
[09:52] <atmOsph> see when I'm here I get botch screens cloned
[09:52] <atm0sph> here in x, no .. just one
[09:53] <Vancouver_Rocks> Hi, Can i share my hard drive and printer? ubuntu is on my desktop, i have a wirless router and shre internet for my leptop throgh wirless
[09:53] <Vancouver_Rocks> can i browse files like i do on xp?
[09:53] <ISOLATEDViRuS> Ok, ive installed XGL and Compiz, do i have to manually configure what effects i want to happen when i enable compiz?
[09:54] <ompaul> atm0sph, please put all your comments on one line, and do not use the enter key in place of a comma, thanks - it makes it easier for others to use the channel
[09:54] <atm0sph> sorry - will do ompaul
[09:54] <fyrestrtr> ISOLATEDViRuS: #ubuntu-xgl
[09:54] <LMJ_Work> I have some questions about NIS client on my ubuntu servers, i wrote that :     cat /etc/yp.conf         domain mynisdomain server nis1.mydomain  (\n)   domain mynisdomain server nis2.mydomain      Do you know why it ALWAYS take nis2 instead of nis1 ? how to force it to nis1 by default ?
[09:54] <bezibaerchen> what can i do bout the following: updatemanager is signaling udates. i open it and selsect to install the updates, what it does, is to look for updates again. on shell it works
[09:55] <atm0sph> fyrestrtr: The only line you have that I don't is Option "CoolBits" "1"
[09:56] <blendd> hi all, im having a problem with the microphone detection... actually i have no clue what it is, the mic seems active and all but when i try to use VOIP softwares, it just doesnt detect it... any1 knows how to fix that?
[09:56] <blendd> same problem with SKype or Ekiga
[09:57] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, when update manager signals updates, normally you give it the password, it then creates a list of possible updates, then you install and then it checks again
[09:58] <ISOLATEDViRuS> yeah, theres basically noone answering questions in ubuntu-xgl
[09:58] <ompaul> blendd, click on the speaker icon top right of your desktop, choose capture and make sure the mic is not muted (a red x)
[09:59] <blendd> ompaul did it... just not working :s
[09:59] <Vancouver_Rocks> Can i make a network between Windows and ubuntu to share files and printer? i share internet through wirless router
[09:59] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: well, i know how it normally SHOULD work. atm it works as u described, with the problem, that the installation-step is missing
[09:59] <ompaul> ISOLATEDViRuS, well it is not in the base disto so it falls outside of the support for this channel as it is beta software, it is very energy intensive if it does not work out of the box, all I can do for you is this
[10:00] <ompaul> !xgl > ISOLATEDViRuS
[10:00] <ompaul> ISOLATEDViRuS, please read the message from the bot
[10:00] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, what is it offering to update?
[10:00] <atm0sph> on this tutorial here Fyrestrtr, it says to unplug the monitor while configuring..  is that neccessary in your opinion?
[10:00] <atm0sph> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[10:01] <MatthewV> Vancouver_Rocks, you can, the guides on the wiki are probably the best thing to follow...
[10:01] <Vancouver_Rocks> can u pls tell me the link?
[10:01] <MatthewV> Vancouver_Rocks, just a moment
[10:01] <Vancouver_Rocks> thanks
[10:02] <manmadha> how to do graphics programs in linux....i did it in windows(putpixel,initgraph......)
[10:02] <manmadha> how to do graphics programs in linux....i did it in windows(putpixel,initgraph......)
[10:02] <kapheroph> fyrestrtr: thank you very much for your help!
[10:02] <ompaul> blendd, you can try the command line tool, >> alsamixer << and make sure nothing else is muted much more detail, (you can get this by playing around with the "edit/preferences" on the gui
[10:03] <MatthewV> Vancouver_Rocks, probably best if you take a look at all thats on the wiki, because there are a few guides on how to do different things.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/  http://help.ubuntu.com/ may also help.. just do a search for what you want
[10:03] <manopulus> hello, /usr/lib/i586 show owner as ? and i do not have permissions to change. eve as root. it is after reboot, i think, my disk died. some files and directories in /usr/lib/ is in this state. how i can resolve issue fast? and how can check disk for integirity?
[10:03] <abaddon> okay I have a question regarding installing using usb. I followed the directions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/In...n/FromUSBStick and it doesn't boot. I am running from an thinkpad x60 so I can't use a cd. When I try to boot I get to a point and it says linux not found boot: or something to that extent. Can anyone help me? I have all of the files that are on the cd on the thumb drive and ldlinux.sys I renamed isolinux.cfg
[10:03] <abaddon> Reply With Quote
[10:03] <blendd> ompaul thanks mate i will try stuff now
[10:03] <manmadha> how to do graphics programs in linux....i did it in windows(putpixel,initgraph......)
[10:03] <MatthewV> manmadha, for graphics programs, maybe start by looking at Applications --> Add/Remove... and the graphics section
[10:04] <Vancouver_Rocks> Thanks Matthew
[10:04] <MatthewV> manmadha, please don't repeat yourself a few times a minute... it won't get you help any faster
[10:04] <NickGarvey> how do you run vim scripts?
[10:04] <manmadha> k
[10:04] <MatthewV> Vancouver_Rocks, no problem... if you run into a specific problem that you can't find a solution to, just ask around here :)
[10:04] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: several mesa-stuff
[10:05] <atm0sph> fyrestrtr hmm no go..  :(  do you think it's because the monitors have different refresh rates?
[10:05] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, did you alter your sources recently?
[10:05] <root_> hi all.. i need help. my pc will only start up X in recovery mode
[10:05] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: nope
[10:05] <atm0sph> I was ready and it said TwinView basically emulates one monitor on both Heads of the vid-card, so X thinks it's just a wide display..  I could see refresh rate becoming a problem in that regard.. no?
[10:06] <root_> i tryed upgrading | degrading the xserver-xorg-core but it didnt help
[10:06] <kapheroph> atm0sph: mines is working a treat :) i had to tweak around with the resolution a couple of times though
[10:06] <root_> my pc just freezed.
[10:06] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, try this, sudo apt-get update on the command line with icon closed, then start again
[10:07] <atm0sph> can I see your xorg.conf file kapheroph?  in a /msg perhaps?
[10:07] <MatthewV> atm0sph, when using xinerama (i think that twinview works the same way) both monitors must operate at the same res and, i think, refresh rate
[10:07] <abaddon> can anyone help me with usb install of ubuntu?
[10:07] <knurg> is it possible to get an tray-icon for x-chat gnome in xfce?
[10:08] <atm0sph> matthewV: Yeah that's why I think IU have a problem - my monitors are a 17 inch that and a 14 inch, but they run different refresh rates, so I'm wondering if that's causing it to fail..  It's weird because it moved from my Primary display over to my secondary display, but it shut off my primary..
[10:08] <manmadha> !CG
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <MatthewV> atm0sph, I'm using a 17" and 15" running from two seperate cards.. and that was one thing i came accross when setting up, that both need the same res
[10:08] <atm0sph> I changed em both to the same res though...
[10:09] <MatthewV> atm0sph, i think that when it changes the display over like that, it usually means that it can't output to the first..
[10:10] <MatthewV> atm0sph, you following a guide at all?
[10:10] <atm0sph> hmm..
[10:10] <atm0sph> naw fyrestrtr was helping me out.. I've basically got all my configuration stuff done..  it's just not working
[10:10] <atm0sph> and now I have another problem..  my xchat window has moved higher than I can reach and it's offscreen - there a fix for that?
[10:10] <atm0sph> besides restarting x?
[10:11] <MatthewV> atm0sph, oh i was going to say a guide like might help, and maximising the xchat window from the taskbar might help
[10:11] <kintaro0e> hi guys..i'm just confused with .bashrc and .bash_profile whats the difference?
[10:11] <MatthewV> atm0sph, maybe somethign like http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[10:12] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: doesn't work either
[10:12] <kapheroph> atm0sph: sure hang a sec
[10:12] <Seveas> kintaro0e, bash_profile is only executed for login shells and usually calls .bashrc
[10:13] <Seveas> non-login shells merely use .bashrc
[10:13] <jarrod_> how do i download smp kernel
[10:13] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, something be broken, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure synaptic
[10:13] <kintaro0e> Seveas what do you mean non-login?
[10:13] <abaddon> can anyone please help me with a usb install of ubuntu?
[10:13] <kintaro0e> :)
[10:13] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: dude, apt-get upgrade on shell works
[10:13] <bezibaerchen> only grafical stuff doesn't
[10:13] <jarrod_> i seem to just be able to get 2.4.
[10:13] <Flannel> abaddon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation  will give you details
[10:14] <jarrod_> 2.4.27
[10:14] <abaddon> rihgt I looked htere
[10:14] <abaddon> and I need more help
[10:14] <abaddon> I followed the instructoins
[10:14] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, read that last one again
[10:14] <abaddon> it boots to syslinux
[10:14] <ompaul> !enter
[10:14] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:14] <jarrod_> how do i get and install smp kernel
[10:15] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: no changes after reconfigure
[10:15] <Flannel> abaddon: what problems you having then?
[10:16] <abaddon> Flannel: sorry, I guess I just got exicted from a responce, I get a message that says linux not found boot: and anything I enter doesn't do anyhting
[10:16] <Flannel> abaddon: how far have you gotten? (and which page?)
[10:16] <jarrod_> hello
[10:16] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, well update from the command line - then go sit back and wait on the next one from the gui if still broken uninstall synaptic and reinstall it
[10:16] <abaddon> I have all of the files that are on the cd on the thumb drive and ldlinux.sys I renamed isolinux.cfg to syslinux.cfg I am pretty sure my laptop supports usb booting and so does my thumb drive it is formatted fat16 and is about a gig. thanks
[10:16] <abaddon> Reply With Quote
[10:16] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: it IS the 2nd where gui doesn't work
[10:17] <jarrod_> how do i get the latest kernel cant seem to get it out of the repositories
[10:18] <fdsd> Hey guys, what is the differnece between apt-get remove --purge app or just plain apt-get remove app?
[10:18] <Flannel> abaddon: So, youre installing ubuntu from a thumbdrive?
[10:18] <Flannel> fdsd: --purge removes config files
[10:18] <fdsd> Flannel, oh cool
[10:18] <ompaul> jarrod_,  this is what you want - sudo apt-get install >> kernel-image-2.4.27-2-k7-smp or kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686-smp
[10:18] <abaddon> flannel: I would like to
[10:18] <Flannel> fdsd: (the equivalent of "complete removal" vs "remove" in synaptic)
[10:18] <kapheroph> atm0ph: can you pm me for it?
[10:18] <fdsd> Flannel, ok
[10:18] <kapheroph> atm0sph: can you pm me for it?
[10:19] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, well I am at a lose as you are the only person reporting such an issue it is beyond my personal kb on other ways to approach that as an issue
[10:19] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, make that loss
[10:19] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: reinstall synaptic?
[10:19] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, I already said that eariler
[10:20] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: with which command?
[10:20] <ompaul> !reinstall
[10:20] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>.  WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[10:20] <manmadha> Matthai,
[10:21] <abaddon> Flannel: I'm on an thinkpad x60 and thought usb would be the easiest non cd install, interms of the install instructions for usb drives I am between editing syslinux.cfg and booting from the falsh drive
[10:21] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, before you do stick your /etc/apt/sources.list into paste.ubuntu-nl.org and give us the url to have a look at
[10:21] <manmadha> Matthai, he my cc compiler does not recognice graphics.h.....etc header files
[10:22] <Flannel> abaddon: so, You aren't successfully booting to syslinux then?
[10:22] <manmadha> how to do graphics programs in linux?
[10:22] <Deaigo> can someone tell me how i can get a external hdd(fat32) to pretty much be chmod 777?
[10:23] <abaddon> flannel: I am my thumb drive is booting and I get to a menu that says boot:
[10:23] <Madpilot> manmadha, the Gimp, which is like Photoshop, is installed by default - Inkscape is worth exploring too, it's a great graphics app
[10:23] <Smeggy> how much space is occupied by a default ubuntu install?
[10:24] <manmadha> Madpilot, no i want to do programs.......(in c)
[10:24] <atm0sph> hmm well no go.
[10:24] <atm0sph> back to one monitor I suppose.
[10:24] <Flannel> abaddon: and you copied the contents of the ISO?
[10:24] <LMJ_Work> Deaigo : you can't apply ext3/Linux  priviledges like owner/groups to fat32 filesystem, BUT  there is a way to mount it (check options) to get it in 777
[10:24] <abaddon> flannel: yes
[10:24] <knurg> i have installed easy-ubuntu, but nvidia driver doesnt seem to be running after reboot
[10:24] <z3r0> #irc
[10:25] <jarrod_> hello
[10:25] <jarrod_> how do i get the latest smp kernele i can only get 2.4.27 from synaptic
[10:26] <Flannel> abaddon: Only thing I can think of to suggest is try the steps after the first again, re-copy everything, rename everything, etc.  make sure you reduce paths correctly and such.
[10:26] <Deaigo> LMJ_Work so where do i go to change this?
[10:26] <abaddon> flannel: I already did that about 4 times with no luck trying different things
[10:26] <LMJ_Work> manmadha : check The Gimp, Scribus, Inkscape, autotrace, Wings3D, cinepaint, vips
[10:27] <manmadha> any one know how to do graphics problems using 'C'
[10:27] <jarrod_> how do i get the latest smp kernele i can only get 2.4.27 from synaptic
[10:27] <manmadha> LMJ_Work, they support programming?
[10:27] <SpaceFrog> Urgent help needed...  Xorg.0.log is here: http://pastebin.ca/147272
[10:27] <SpaceFrog> It won't boot into X
[10:27] <Flannel> abaddon: heh, Um, I don't know then.  You might try checking out syslinux's documentation
[10:27] <Smeggy> hmm
[10:28] <Smeggy> atm0sph, what's the problem with twinview?
[10:28] <Flannel> SpaceFrog: whats the error you get?
[10:28] <SpaceFrog> no screens found
[10:28] <Flannel> SpaceFrog: see topic
[10:28] <SpaceFrog> it was working earlier today, nothing had been changed that i know of.
[10:28] <trygg> Anyone know how to edit the icons for all the mime-types?
[10:28] <Madpilot> SpaceFrog, there was an X update
[10:28] <Flannel> SpaceFrog: you updated to a bad X package (or rebooted after updating to it)
[10:28] <manopulus> how with apt-get i can re-install all installed packages?
[10:28] <abaddon> flannel: doesn't seem like a syslinux problem though because I do get to boot: I will ook into it
[10:28] <SpaceFrog> ahh, i see. Thankyou
[10:28] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: just tried to approach the prob form another side. did a "gksudo update-manager" to see some output. afer choosing to install the updates, message is "/usr/sbin/synaptic: error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory", libvte4 is installed
[10:28] <LMJ_Work> About graphics manmadha :  http://www.ucc.fr/forums/index.php/topic,21.0.html    or www.ucc.fr
[10:29] <jarrod_> how do i get the latest smp kernele i can only get 2.4.27 from synaptic
[10:29] <manmadha> LMJ_Work, thank u
[10:29] <Flannel> jarrod_: you're on breezy?
[10:29] <atm0sph> smeggy: it won't work..  when I configure it according to specs it moves everything to my secondary monitor (on the left), but disables my primary monitor...  no dual displays
[10:29] <jarrod_> on dapper
[10:29] <jarrod_> flannel: on dapper
[10:29] <Flannel> jarrod_: what do you want to update to?
[10:30] <Smeggy> atm0sph, can you put your xorg.conf on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/?
[10:30] <jarrod_> any smp kernel
[10:30] <jarrod_> i am using 2.6 something and not smp i want to use my dual core
[10:30] <atm0sph> yeah one sec smeggy
[10:30] <jarrod_> 2.4 crashes on boot
[10:31] <atm0sph> Smeggy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21529
[10:31] <jarrod_> not sure why i downgraded
[10:31] <atm0sph> I have it commented out right now so I can use my primary monitor ..  it's a 17inch..  without those commented lines under the screen section everything moves over to my 15 inch which is to the left
[10:31] <LMJ_Work> in /etc/fstab   maybe check http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mount_MS_Windows_partitions_(FAT,NTFS)
[10:32] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, have you installed  xgl or some such?
[10:32] <Flannel> jarrod_: the 2.4 kernels are in universe, that's most likely why theyre crashing
[10:32] <smelly_sox> linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-26-686 contains SMP support
[10:33] <jarrod_> i show just one cpu
[10:33] <jarrod_> how do i get that linux image
[10:33] <smelly_sox> synaptic
[10:33] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: nafaik, dpkg -l | grep -i xgl doesn't match anything
[10:33] <abaddon> Flannel: can you refer me to anyone or anything specific? regarding my usb issues
[10:34] <jarrod_> it doesnt show up in synaptic
[10:34] <atm0sph> smeggy: any ideas?
[10:34] <Smeggy> atm0sph, try moving the twinview options into the device section and adding Option "NVreg_SoftEDID" "true"
[10:34] <smelly_sox> search for SMP using 'Name and Description"
[10:34] <jarrod_> ok
[10:35] <atm0sph> all the twinview options
[10:35] <atm0sph> smeggy: as in everything that's commented out?
[10:35] <Smeggy> atm0sph, yes.
[10:36] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: i can't start synaptic, that seems the problem. if i try, i also get the libvte-error
[10:36] <jarrod_> thank you
[10:36] <jarrod_> i am an idiot i was looking up kernel not linux image
[10:36] <jarrod_> thanks alot
[10:36] <Jokeur> hello/ salut tlm/everybody is this chat only in english or french too ?
[10:37] <atm0sph> smeggy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21530
[10:37] <smelly_sox> cheers jarrod
[10:37] <smelly_sox> my sox stink
[10:37] <Smeggy> atm0sph, yes.
[10:37] <SpaceFrog> Thanks for your help, guys. X is working again.
[10:37] <Flannel> Jokeur: english only, for french, #ubuntu-fr
[10:38] <atm0sph> brb
[10:38] <Aliexzi> exit
[10:38] <Jokeur> Flannel:  on this server ?
[10:38] <mcphail> bezibaerchen: it is the latest update from the quinn repos which have broken synaptic
[10:38] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, give me a monent
[10:38] <abaddon> peace out
[10:38] <Flannel> Jokeur: right
[10:38] <bezibaerchen> i've only got libvte.so.9, but not libvte.so.4
[10:39] <mcphail> bezibaerchen: read my above comment
[10:39] <Jokeur> Flannel: thank you very much :)
[10:39] <bezibaerchen> mcphail: how is the url of quinn repos? dunno, whether i use them
[10:39] <atm0sph> smeggy: so no go ..  hmm..
[10:39] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, "ln -s libvte.so.9 libvte.so.4" in the directory where .9 exists
[10:39] <Smeggy> atm0sph, did it do anything different?
[10:39] <knurg> how does one get the nvidia driver to run? ive installed easy-ubuntu
[10:39] <atm0sph> everything went back to the left monitor
[10:39] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, I think sudo will be in order
[10:39] <Smeggy> hmm
[10:39] <atm0sph> then my right monitor just went into standbye
[10:39] <mcphail> bezibaerchen: they are the compiz/xgl repos
[10:40] <smelly_sox> bye all
[10:40] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: thats what i was thinking about, wasn't sure, but i trust you :-)
[10:40] <Smeggy> atm0sph, trying giving it the actaul modes for the second monitor instead of relying on the display id data?
[10:40] <bezibaerchen> mcphail: got no compiz/xgl
[10:40] <bezibaerchen> i'll try linking
[10:40] <atm0sph> smeggy: the refresh you mean?
[10:40] <Jokeur> good bye everybody have a good day
[10:40] <Smeggy> atm0sph, that would also mean removing the 'useedidfreqs' option.
[10:40] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, did you ever try to install it?
[10:40] <Smeggy> atm0sph, yes the refresh rates.
[10:40] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: don't think so
[10:41] <mcphail> bezibaerchen: do you have the compiz or beerorkid repos in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[10:41] <atm0sph> smeggy: I did that originally and it didn't work either..  that's why I set it to the auto setting..  I can't find the modes for my primary monitor, and considering that TwinView emulates both monitors as ONE output, I assumed they had to be equal..  so by default they'll go to 60 hz if I'm not mistaken.
[10:41] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, the presence of repos other than the "offical ones can lead to breakages" and as you are seeing not nice ones
[10:41] <atm0sph> in all honesty I'm kind of tired of fiddling with it.. I'm gonna change it back to my bigger monitor and go play some pokerstars.. :)
[10:41] <atm0sph> I appreciate your help though guys - hasta maniata
[10:41] <octan> !!nvidia
[10:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:42] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, I have a phrase for these things, bringing the reliablity of windows to linux }:->
[10:42] <bezibaerchen> mcphail: yeah, beerorkid matched, was addes by automatix. so no symbolic linking, just kicking berrorkid and do upgrade?
[10:42] <bezibaerchen> or is symbolic linking still needed?
[10:43] <ompaul> bezibaerchen, when automatix is involved you can't tell what it has done (you can ask in #automatix) it is not supported here
[10:44] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: well, it seems that beerorkid was added by automatix
[10:44] <ompaul> !automatix
[10:44] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:44] <Smeggy> So, can someone tell me how much space a default Ubuntu install takes?
[10:44] <MatthewV> Smeggy, a couple of gig...
[10:45] <ompaul> Smeggy, you really want to have a minimum of 5 gigs to make andy use of it, but I give it complete machines with the smallest I support bring 9gig scsi
[10:46] <Smeggy> Hmm, I want to put Ubuntu on my ibook and I can only spare 5gig, is that going to be enough?
[10:46] <DarkRain> I transfered a bunch of directories from windows, and it left a thumbs.db in every directory, can someone give me a terminal command that will search and remove all of them?
[10:46] <ompaul> Smeggy, not for getting good use out of it you really should give it a bit more
[10:46] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: yes, but you won't have a lot of room to expand :)
[10:46] <gnomefreak> ompaul: the libcte bug looks fixed or it was never an issue for me i just did updates today after yesterdays updates for compiz
[10:47] <Smeggy> ompaul, Ubuntu can read hfs+ though, so I should be able to access my media from my mac os partition?
[10:47] <ompaul> gnomefreak, your an edgy person at the best of times
[10:47] <gnomefreak> im on dapper atm :)
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: yes, you can
[10:47] <bezibaerchen> ompaul: fyi: symbolic linking did the trick
[10:47] <Smeggy> cheers guys :)
[10:47] <bezibaerchen> thx for help
[10:47] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: you will need an fstab line
[10:47] <gnomefreak> ack in edgy yet
[10:47] <manopulus> please someone tell - how with apt-get i can reinstall all packages in system
[10:48] <paulhoward> Morning all - I need help!!  need to enable desktop sharing but I'm at work and all i can do is ssh into my machine - is there any way of enabling it from the CLI?
[10:48] <gnomefreak> manopulus: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[10:48] <ompaul> Smeggy, for this reason ( thoreauputic answersing - you would be better asking the channel I don't run apple hardware )
[10:48] <Smeggy> :) thanks
[10:49] <ompaul> !vnc
[10:49] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[10:49] <ompaul> paulhoward, ^^^
[10:49] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: I hve this line ( yours will vary according to where your mac stuff lives)
[10:49] <thoreauputic> /dev/hda3       /media/macosx  hfsplus  users,noauto  0     0
[10:49] <paulhoward> yeah I  know how to do it with port forwarding I just forgot to enable the desktop sharing before I left for work
[10:49] <Smeggy> excellent, thanks thoreauputic
[10:49] <Smeggy> do you run ubuntu on a mac thoreauputic?
[10:50] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: if you want it to mount on boot you would use "auto" instead of "noauto"
[10:50] <rast4> anyone hear anything about a laptop/pc crashing while streaming media via Samba shares?
[10:50] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: yes I have an iBook G4 running 6.06
[10:50] <Smeggy> thoreauputic, how's your battery life compared to osx?
[10:50] <GMachine_24> rast4: no, but what kind of media, what programs, etc.?
[10:51] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: about the same - I  get 5 hours in light use with the screen dimmed a bit, and around 4 hours in heavier use
[10:51] <rast4> Gmachine: I logged into my mp3 server, used Totem and it crashed twice
[10:51] <GMachine_24> jeeezus it's 5 a.m. and i'm listening to ranchero music..........
[10:51] <rast4> I can't get XMMS to open the location of the Server
[10:51] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:51] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:52] <darksoul> !ATI
[10:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ATI - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:52] <argument> hi, i've been looking on freshmeat and google for a while now but I can't find a good utility to update ID3 tags based on filename. anyone know of one? basically i have the track numbers in my file names but not my id3 tags... :( i tried the "id3 mass changer" tool and id3ren but neither one has produced satisfactory results after consulting the man pages for many hours.
[10:52] <darksoul> !ati
[10:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:52] <gnomefreak> !ati > darksoul
[10:52] <Smeggy> thoreauputic, cool :)
[10:52] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: but I don't do heavy stuff on the iBook much - except the occasional compiling
[10:53] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: Ubuntu is more responsive than MAc OS-X - and I rarely use Os-X
[10:53] <GMachine_24> rast4: but are you really using samba to share these files?
[10:53] <rast4> Gmachine: that's how I have it set up, I open Network Places, click my workgroup, click my computer I want to access, and go from there
[10:53] <rast4> so I would say yes
[10:53] <GMachine_24> rast4: ok.
[10:54] <GMachine_24> rast4: hang on a second....
[10:54] <rast4> each respective drive has SMB on it and they are configured via Samba
[10:54] <rast4> sure
 Deaigo : you can't apply ext3/Linux  priviledges like owner/groups to fat32 filesystem, BUT  there is a way to mount it (check options) to get it in 777
[10:54] <Deaigo> where do i loom to find those options?
[10:54] <Deaigo> look*
[10:54] <Flannel> Deaigo, LMJ_Work, change the umask
[10:54] <argument> what's the best way to install KDE ?
[10:55] <argument> is there a metapackage that provides the main system?
[10:55] <MatthewV> argument, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:55] <Deaigo> Flannel i am a total noob
[10:55] <Deaigo> where do i go to change that?
[10:56] <rast4> Gmachine: Hell dude, it just crashed just browsing a server heh, didn't even stream anything
[10:56] <fyyrest0rm> can someone please tell me whats wrong with this line? I get "mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab" ..... /dev/hdb1   /home/storm/hdb1   ext3   defaults,umask=007,noatime 0 0
[10:56] <argument> MatthewV, thx
[10:56] <rast4> MatthewV: What's up Grub-fixer ;)
[10:57] <GMachine_24> rast4: yeah, i don't think streaming media is your problem. i just connected to my music server and can play songs using totem fine. xmms doesn't seem to want to work.
[10:57] <rast4> yeah something is up
[10:57] <MatthewV> hi rast4 ... not a whole lot is up, but if you want to just chat.. the correct place is #ubuntu-offtopic... ;) sorry.. just that this is a support channel :) or #ubuntu-au.. :)
[10:57] <rast4> I JUST got Samba working FINALLY too
[10:57] <rast4> Matthewv: gotcha
[10:58] <GMachine_24> rast4: i would suggest checking your samba.conf file to make sure everything is configured ok.
[10:58] <rast4> yeah let me do another testparm when it comes up again
[10:58] <hush`afk> my linux has been acting screwy so i booted to winxp and went to ubuntu.com and low and behold i see a bright green headline warning me of the issue and how to fix it - yay!
[10:58] <rast4> it's forcing me to fcsk after each crash :(
[10:58] <GMachine_24> rast4: you could always buy a new computer. :)
[10:59] <rast4> I have nearly a dozen. I own a computer business ;)
[10:59] <rast4> this is laptop #3 with Ubuntu
[10:59] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:59] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:59] <Deaigo> /dev/sda1	/media/external	vfat	iocharset=utf8,umask=000	0	0
[10:59] <rast4> HP Pavilion ZD7005QV 17" Widescreen
[10:59] <Deaigo> does that look correct?
[10:59] <GMachine_24> rast4: actually, i use 'slimserver' software as my interface between my pcs and my music server.
[10:59] <rast4> I guess talk in offtopic chan
[10:59] <rast4> bah
[10:59] <rast4> let me msg you
[10:59] <rast4> i wanna hear about that
[11:00] <GMachine_24> rast4: but slimserver doesn't install well on ubuntu.
[11:01] <gary4gar> hi
[11:01] <KenSentMe> hi
[11:01] <gary4gar> all
[11:01] <pabz> hi
[11:01] <mairena> hi
[11:01] <gary4gar> there is no oops there
[11:02] <gary4gar> ops
[11:02] <pabz> helo mai
[11:02] <mneptok> 'allo users
[11:02] <gnomefreak> gary4gar: no ops where?
[11:03] <pabz> hi
[11:03] <gnomefreak> ;)
[11:03] <gary4gar> now its ok
[11:03] <mneptok> ooo! an active +o!
[11:03] <ompaul> gary4gar, don't ever say that
[11:03] <gary4gar> o.k
[11:03] <NickGarvey> 4 of them
[11:03] <gnomefreak> ask and you shall recieve
[11:03] <mneptok> gnomefreak: let me fetch a URL for the /topic. sec ...
[11:03] <pabz> pp
[11:04] <gary4gar> i understand that u can't trust strangers
[11:04] <scapor> Is there a fix for fglrx on Edgy ?  There seems to be an ABI mismatch between the driver and the Xserver.
[11:04] <gary4gar> like me
[11:04] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:04] <gnomefreak> we can take the X issue out of topic now its been on the servers for a few days
[11:04] <mneptok> can someone /topic this, please - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ResolutionForBug57153
[11:04] <pabz> hi
[11:04] <ompaul> gnomefreak, go for it
[11:04] <gnomefreak> scapor: try in #ubuntu+1
[11:04] <ryctor> #ubuntu is the most populated channel in freenode, second by #gentoo and #debian
[11:05] <ryctor> 812 users
[11:05] <ryctor> ##linux in #8 with 370
[11:05] <mneptok> ryctor: that's only the channels you can see. the +s channels may have more people.
[11:05] <MatthewV> ryctor, maybe things like that would be best in #ubuntu-offtopic...
[11:06] <Blinker> mornin' room
[11:06] <bbrazil> gnomefreak: comma after channel?
[11:06] <DesertEagle7> Blinker, hello ;-)
[11:06] <mneptok> gnomefreak: could you throw that URL i pasted into the /topic. despite the bug being old, and long fixed, we're still getting support queries about it. i'll try anything to stem the tide. :)
[11:07] <bilss_> fyrestrtr: are you still here
[11:07] <Smeggy> thoreauputic, did you install any laptop specific tools to get that kind of battery life? hd-spin down utils or anthing?
[11:07] <gnomefreak> mneptok: the issue is fixed there is no need for it
[11:07] <Blinker> so yeah, x server decided to stop working for me...
[11:07] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: no
[11:07] <Blinker> think i could get the rebuild command from someone?
[11:07] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: tha't what I get out of the box
[11:08] <Smeggy> thoreauputic, excellent, thanks.  sorry to be a pest, haven't encountered any live ibook using ubuntu people to talk to yet and I plan on converting my laptop fully sometime soon :)
[11:08] <mneptok> gnomefreak: if you say so, but our RT queue says differently :)
[11:08] <thoreauputic> Smeggy: as i said though, that's with pretty light use ( text, a bit of music et)
[11:08] <gnomefreak> mneptok: 10.4 has been in repos for a few days
[11:08] <TANATHOS> hi
[11:08] <Blinker> !x
[11:08] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:09] <gnomefreak> mneptok: if 10.4 doesnt fix your issue than your issue isnt the same as that one
[11:09] <ryctor> so, we need to rethink everything we like to post and then see in which channel it goes and then join that channel and post the comment and then return?
[11:10] <mneptok> gnomefreak: the problem is that people don't update. especially after they have either been burned by an updated or have been spooked about updating after reading about issues.
[11:10] <bilss_> ompaul: morning
[11:10] <ompaul> bilss_, it is indeed :)
[11:10] <ryctor> That kind of filtering is objective and relative
[11:10] <gnomefreak> mneptok: the few people that are left with the issue we can tell to upgrade packages if they want it fixed. most people dont read the topic anyway
[11:11] <mneptok> gnomefreak: k, whatevah. :)
[11:12] <TANATHOS> need help in setting up a virtual domain
[11:12] <TANATHOS> someone ....anyone?
[11:13] <MatthewV> ryctor, no, I'm just saying that this is a support channel.. I'm not forcing you to go to offtopic, I'm just pointing out that that is not support material, and some ops don't like -offtopic stuff in here ;)
[11:13] <bilss_> ompaul: can you take a look at a patebin please?
[11:14] <DesertEagle7> ryctor, it's not worth arguing about, you'll surely end up being banned for repeated offtopic posts / arguing
[11:14] <ompaul> bilss_, url
[11:14] <KenSentMe> !anyone
[11:14] <KenSentMe> Hey ubotu's dead?
[11:14] <MatthewV> !ubotu
[11:14] <frogzoo> !wtf
[11:14] <Blinker> !x
[11:14] <MatthewV> KenSentMe, hmm... maybe
[11:15] <Blinker> fancy that
[11:15] <Madpilot> !ping
[11:15] <DesertEagle7> ubotu gets ddosed all the time
[11:15] <Blinker> can someone tell me the command to autoconfigure x server? mine crapped out on me saying no device found (it was working just fine before)
[11:15] <Madpilot> this channel functions very badly when the bot isn't here ;)
[11:16] <ompaul> DesertEagle7, na we got a new location for it
[11:16] <gnomefreak> im willing to bet Seveas is working on them
[11:16] <MatthewV> Blinker, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:16] <Blinker> thx
[11:16] <DesertEagle7> ompaul, really? I haven't been in here since winter, But I remember it getting ddosed constantly
[11:16] <Seveas> gnomefreak, I wish that as true
[11:16] <gnomefreak> :(
[11:16] <DesertEagle7> yay
[11:16] <MatthewV> Blinker, that will run through config options... otherwise X -configure will attempt to autodectect everything and make you an xorg.conf
[11:16] <ompaul> DesertEagle7, yeap it is not the bot in .nz
[11:17] <bilss_> ompaul: just a sec
[11:17] <ompaul> DesertEagle7, it has new internals
[11:17] <DesertEagle7> kewl
[11:17] <KenSentMe> !ping
[11:18] <Seveas> gnomefreak, colo provider is acting weird since yesterday
[11:18] <DesertEagle7> you guys need to get him on an oc-256 :-P
[11:18] <gnomefreak> yeah i saw that yesterday
[11:18] <ubotu> ping: unknown host
[11:18] <gnomefreak> i thought i crashed him yesterday :(
[11:19] <mrjoe> ciao a tutti
[11:19] <|DuReX|> hi guys, is it possible to convert a RAID0 to a RAID5 with mdadm ?
[11:19] <ompaul> blind, sorted passed it on
[11:20] <Blinker> bah. that didn't fix it...
[11:20] <TheFuzzball> hello, I need to play an AVI file, but kaffeine and all of my other players won't work, how do I play avi files?
[11:20] <shaantan1> try VLC
[11:20] <TheFuzzball> I have
[11:20] <Blinker> !easyubuntu
[11:20] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:20] <shaantan1> ur file might be corrupted
[11:20] <mneptok> TheFuzzball: try getting the DivX codec for Totem
[11:21] <DesertEagle7> TheFuzzball, tried xine?
[11:21] <Blinker> that should fix it, assuming you havent successfullyplayed avi's previously
[11:21] <TheFuzzball> yup
[11:21] <TheFuzzball> I haven't
[11:21] <TheFuzzball> and this one I am trying to play isn't corrupt, cause' I pulled another AVI off another comp that works fine in Windows but that didn't play
[11:22] <Blinker> ok, anyone know why X would come up with an error saying no device found?
[11:22] <ompaul> bilss_,  sorted passed it on
[11:22] <shaantan1> where do I get gnome VFS plugin
[11:22] <Quentusrex> Does anyone know of a good site that describes how to setup a reverse proxy with apache on Ubuntu?
[11:22] <MatthewV> Blinker, something is wrong in the configuration so that it cannot find a video card to output to
[11:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS> !m4a
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about m4a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ...
[11:22] <Quentusrex> I can find many for RHL, but Ubuntu has been configured differently.
[11:22] <ISOLATEDViRuS> !.m4a
[11:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about m4a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:23] <ISOLATEDViRuS> oh i hate you.
[11:23] <Blinker> MatthewV: it was working fine before, and the reconfig didnt help any
[11:23] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats ?
[11:23] <MatthewV> Blinker, what broke it?
[11:23] <mneptok> ISOLATEDViRuS: you want AAC support
[11:23] <ISOLATEDViRuS> aac = .m4a?
[11:23] <MatthewV> ISOLATEDViRuS, maybe try what ubotu said, and search the site... or search the wiki
[11:23] <Blinker> spontaneous. nothing changed bymyhandsincethe last successful boots
[11:23] <Blinker> apologies for the dysfunctional spacebar
[11:24] <MatthewV> Blinker, nothing at all? no upgrades?
[11:24] <KenSentMe> Blinker: have you updated your system?
[11:24] <ISOLATEDViRuS> who wants to explain how to get my .m4a files to work =D?
[11:24] <Blinker> actually now i think of it i did get an update a few days ago
[11:24] <shaantanu> where do I get gnome VFS plugin
[11:24] <KenSentMe> Blinker: update again
[11:24] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i already downloaded and installed the packages from the repositories for the restricted formats, and im using amaroK
[11:24] <KenSentMe> !xorgbug
[11:24] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[11:24] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball: if you open the file in question in vlc, and do "View", "Stream and message info", if it says 'wmv3' then you might want to install mplayer
[11:24] <shaantanu> hi everyone where do i get gnome VFS plugin
[11:24] <gnomefreak> correct me if im wrong but if you "cat" a file that means its there correct?
[11:25] <shaantanu> !VFS
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about VFS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <|DuReX|>  is it possible to convert a RAID0 to a RAID5 with mdadm ?
[11:25] <MatthewV> gnomefreak, i should think so.. :)
[11:25] <gnomefreak> MatthewV: me to:(
[11:25] <laurens_s> gnomefreak: if you get output, yeah :)
[11:25] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i believe cat is used to view a file
[11:25] <shaantanu> ya
[11:26] <gnomefreak> sorry yeah meant to add the output word in there
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ISOLATEDViRuS: it is
[11:26] <shaantanu> !vfs
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <e-type> hi all
[11:26] <ISOLATEDViRuS> gnomefreak: what packages do i need and from which repository to get .m4a to play?
[11:26] <MatthewV> shaantanu, gnome-vfs is installed by default, i believe, what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:26] <manopulus> what partition system is best for system ( / ) and for /home, need to provide a way to restore files and dirs on crash
[11:27] <gnomefreak> ISOLATEDViRuS: not sure but i would try multiverse repo
[11:27] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, I already have mplayer
[11:27] <shaantanu> matthew : I m trying to config synce
[11:27] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ok, thats what i thought, because i used the guide in the wiki i believe it was, and installed all th packages it said to in order to have restricted files play
[11:28] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball: is the file indeed a wmv3 file (see my vlc-remark?)
[11:28] <ISOLATEDViRuS> some 7 or 8 files
[11:28] <e-type> I've been looking around for a while now, but don't find the reason: shutdown buttons have vanished from shutdown menu and gdm as well.
[11:28] <tarbomb> MatthewV: R u sure its there by default
[11:28] <e-type> anyone know where to fix this?
[11:28] <patientfox> does anyone know why when i try to load mp3s in rhythmbox i get a message telling me they arent audio streams?
[11:28] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, it's an AVI file
[11:29] <patientfox> is it because it ships w/o mp3 support?
[11:29] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, now wmv
[11:29] <ISOLATEDViRuS> patientfox: you have to download the support from the multiverse repository
[11:29] <Madpilot> patientfox, have you installed mp3 support?
[11:29] <tarbomb> patientfox : try xmms player
[11:29] <MatthewV> tarbomb, well... if not you could install libgnome-vfs or the appropriate package
[11:29] <ISOLATEDViRuS> xmms sucks, get amarok.
[11:29] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball: i ment, what does it say if you open the file in vlc, click view and then 'stream and media info' ?
[11:29] <MatthewV> or gnome-vfs
[11:30] <tarbomb> hmm
[11:30] <patientfox> i have the multiverse repository
[11:30] <DesertEagle7> ISOLATEDViRuS, amarok is very good, but also hard on slower pc's so xmms is a good alternative some times..
[11:30] <patientfox> how i do install mp3 support from it?
[11:30] <MatthewV> patientfox, its becaues there is no mp3 support, see !restricted
[11:30] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball: have you also installed the w32codecs?
[11:30] <patientfox> amarok is great, but kde sucks
[11:30] <MatthewV> !restricted
[11:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:30] <tarbomb> hi everyone where do i get gnome VFS plugin: do u have any idea abt synce ??
[11:30] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, yea
[11:31] <ISOLATEDViRuS> patientfox, do you want a walktrough? i did this like, a few hours ago
[11:31] <patientfox> please
[11:31] <patientfox> i already got the nonfree flash plugin
[11:31] <ISOLATEDViRuS> make a channel and message me the name of it
[11:31] <patientfox> arghhh damnit
[11:31] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball: then I'm out of ideas, sorry :(
[11:31] <patientfox> i cant i gotta run... thanks for the offer though
[11:31] <Madpilot> patientfox, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:31] <MatthewV> tarbomb, if you install a package from the repos it should pull all deps with it
[11:31] <TheFuzzball> laurens_s, it's ok
[11:31] <ISOLATEDViRuS> k
[11:32] <tarbomb> matthew : hmm
[11:32] <ISOLATEDViRuS> good luck with it
[11:32] <tarbomb> lemme try
[11:32] <haler> hello everyone
[11:32] <laurens_s> TheFuzzball: good luck
[11:32] <Deaigo> what do you set the umask to for say 766?
[11:34] <Gumby> can anyone tell me which file I would need to edit in order to have something start automagically when a user is logged in?  I know how to do it  within the gui, but I want to be able to edit a file manually this time.
[11:35] <tarbomb> MatthewV: cant find packages gnome-vfs or libgnome-vfs
[11:35] <DesertEagle7> Deaigo, I don't think you touch the umask for a permission setting?
[11:36] <laurens_s> tarbomb: have you tried sudo apt-get install libgnome-vfs-dev?
[11:36] <tarbomb> nope
[11:36] <lophyte> Gumby: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[11:36] <tarbomb> lemme try
[11:36] <Deaigo> i mean settigns for umask so it makes all files chmod 766
[11:36] <Gumby> lophyte: sorry, I meant a users session
[11:36] <lophyte> Gumby: erm, sorry.. I misunderstood
[11:36] <tarbomb> lauren : worked , thanx
[11:37] <lophyte> Gumby: I thought you meant auto-login :P
[11:37] <mneptok> Deaigo: you want to chmod all files to 766?
[11:37] <tarbomb> Deaigo:its risky
[11:37] <Deaigo> no
[11:37] <Deaigo> i want the umask settign to do that
[11:37] <Deaigo> trying to mount a fat32 hdd
[11:38] <Deaigo> the autmount isnt giving me what i want
[11:38] <mneptok> mounts inherit the perms of their mount points
[11:38] <tarbomb> mount - a should help
[11:38] <laurens_s> tarbomb: no problem, cool :) BTW: I found it by searching for packages using firefox searchbox, and picking 'ubuntu package search' - it revealed a -dev for libgnome-vfs
[11:38] <tarbomb> hmm
[11:38] <haler> what you guys think? i'm running ubuntu on a pentium II 266mhz with a 352mb ram. response is a bit slow. will adding memory help or is it the processor?
[11:38] <tarbomb> lauren:cool
[11:38] <laurens_s> tarbomb: a lot of packages have a -dev , if you're compiling something which requires the library
[11:38] <tarbomb> lauren : k, thanx for the info
[11:39] <laurens_s> tarbomb: welcome again :)
[11:39] <dggoldst> Hello all
[11:39] <mneptok> haler: i'd try Xubuntu
[11:40] <onispawn> anyone know if the xserver-xorg-core 10.4 safe to install?
[11:40] <mneptok> onispawn: it is
[11:40] <YveDeLarc> hi
[11:40] <onispawn> cool. thanks
[11:40] <Deaigo> nevermind i got it working
[11:40] <haler> ok mneptok
[11:41] <YveDeLarc> There are two sound interfaces in my system, onboard and SB Live. How can I force the sblive to be the default for output?
[11:41] <mneptok> haler: Xubuntu is designed for older hardware. XFCE is more lightweight than is GNOME.
[11:42] <mneptok> YveDeLarc: disable the on-board in the BIOS?
[11:42] <tarbomb> whenever I try uninstalling games from my ubuntu ... it tells me I have to remove the desktop package as well.... what does this mean ? shud i continue ?
[11:42] <laurens_s> YveDeLarc: System, preferences, sound
[11:42] <YveDeLarc> mneptok, laurens_s: Thank you, will check.
[11:42] <mneptok> tarbomb: the games we include are part of the overall desktop package. it is NOT safe to uninstall the desktop metapackage (unless you want CLI only)
[11:43] <tarbomb> k
[11:44] <lophyte> Gumby: I'm not quite sure... I can't find it myself
[11:44] <valehru> Hey guys, can anyone help me get skype up and running alongside with xmms or beep media player?
[11:44] <erUSUL> !skype
[11:44] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[11:45] <bilss_> ompaul: http://pastebin.ca/147350
[11:45] <mneptok> !list pants
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about list pants - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <mneptok> no pants.
[11:45] <Quentusrex> does anyone have experience with an apache reverse proxy?
[11:45] <dggoldst> anybody handy with the command line?
[11:46] <lophyte> Gumby: I'm not sure how the GUI does it.. but I know you can add commands to ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile which will be executed on login
[11:46] <dggoldst> command line text filtering?
[11:46] <realist> Quentusrex: what do you need to know?
[11:46] <mneptok> dggoldst: grep
[11:46] <mneptok> (or awk, or sed ...)
[11:46] <dggoldst> ok, how do you return the nth column from a tab-delimited file
[11:46] <Quentusrex> I need to know how to setup apache to work as a reverse proxy so that users can access my two webservers as if they are the same server.
[11:47] <realist> dggoldst: man cut
[11:47] <dggoldst> yes!
[11:47] <Quentusrex> but I can't find much info on how to do this on ubuntu
[11:47] <realist> Quentusrex: install mod_proxy, and set up virtual hosts on your apache proxy
[11:47] <thoreauputic> ompaul: ping ?
[11:47] <Quentusrex> do you have a site with a tutorial?
[11:48] <realist> Quentusrex: no sorry, google?
[11:48] <laurens_s> YveDeLarc: any luck yet? Is it working?
[11:48] <Quentusrex> tried.
[11:48] <Quentusrex> not much luck
[11:48] <thoreauputic> !seen ompaul
[11:48] <Quentusrex> think I might have found something just now
[11:48] <ubotu> ompaul is on IRC right now!
[11:48] <realist> Quentusrex: doesn't need to be ubuntu specific
[11:49] <Quentusrex> but haven't for the past 20 minutes
[11:49] <thoreauputic> yeah I thought so :)
[11:49] <Quentusrex> I've found a debian one.
[11:49] <realist> Quentusrex: that'll do :-)
[11:49] <realist> Just make sure you're running the right version of apache you need
[11:50] <shaantanu> any body knows how to access your Pocket PC device through Nautilus using the protocol synce:/// or otherwise ??
[11:51] <jujimufu> in apt's cache, there is a quake II. Is this the real game, or just a demo?
[11:51] <onispawn> jujimufu: its just a demo. you need the pak files from the cd for the full game
[11:52] <haler> how do i know that my video card is working properly? it's an ancient trident 3dimage 9750 agp.
[11:52] <Lynoure> haler: Usually you know if it does not
[11:53] <naosz> mhuhahah! I love ubuntu :D just plugged my mobile phone in to the usb and i can browse the phone and mem card... no new drivers or new software to install! eat that M$
[11:53] <shaantanu> naosz : cool
[11:53] <dpupp> im in the process of partitioning, i have two partitions and some free spaces unclaimed... what do i select to make linux create a partition on that free space and use it for its self without touching the other two partitions?
[11:53] <haler> Lynoure: i won't see a thing?
[11:53] <naosz> I no longer have any M$ software on my PC!
[11:54] <laurens_s> shaantazu: do you have a windows mobile 2005 device?
[11:54] <shaantanu> 2003
[11:54] <onispawn> anyone use vmware server?
[11:54] <daniele_981> hello smathing know gdm need fo programming with anjuta in C
[11:54] <Lynoure> haler: or the resolution is bad or it flickers or...
[11:54] <dpupp> is it a problem to have two primary and two logical? im confused. i dont want to cause a conflict
[11:54] <shaantanu> lauren: Windows mobile 2003
[11:55] <laurens_s> shaantazu: http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/multisync_guide.php ?
[11:56] <dpupp> ide master hda has #1 primary ntfs, #5 logical fat32, #6 fswap, and #3 primary.... does this sound right?
[11:56] <HanzZ> how long will be package in edgy?
[11:56] <shaantanu> lauren : naah ... I dont want to synchronize , I just want to browse my pocket PC thru nautilius
[11:56] <dpupp> i want to make sure ubuntu is the first choice at boot.
[11:56] <daniele_981> hello smathing know gdm need fo programming with anjuta in C
[11:57] <laurens_s> shaantanu: can't help there - perhaps http://www.synce.org/index.php/Install_Gnome_VFS_Plugin can
[11:57] <YveDeLarc> The solution for my sound card ordering problem was to add 'options snd-emu10k1 index=0' and 'options snd-intel8x0 index=1' to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base. That way, I still can use the onboard interface but gave the SB live as default.
[11:57] <dpupp> bah... im feeling advetureous... clicks random options and hits next ^_^ weee!
[11:58] <Deep> Hello friends
[11:58] <shaantanu> lauren : i have been on this page but cant decipher svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce synce just have alook on the page
[11:58] <laurens_s> YveDeLarc: ok, good that it's fixed.
[11:59] <laurens_s> shaantanu: do you have svn installed? svn --version?
[11:59] <shaantanu> dont think so ...
[11:59] <shaantanu> what package is this
[11:59] <laurens_s> shaantanu: sudo apt-get install subversion
[11:59] <YveDeLarc> laurens_s: Well, my solution is not as end-user-friendly, so your suggestion also has its merits. :)
[11:59] <YveDeLarc> laurens_s: Thanks again for helping.
[11:59] <laurens_s> YveDeLarc: ;p
[12:00] <daniele_981> llo smathing know gdm need fo programming with anjuta in C i need it but i don't say
[12:00] <shaantanu> lauren : what is subversion used for ??
[12:00] <haler> the only hiccup i encountered when i installed ubuntu was that it won't recognize the sound chip in the mobo. no sounds. what i did was buy a pci sound card. install. voila! music. cmi8738=$7
[12:00] <laurens_s> shaantanu: here, it's used to get the latest version of synce from the developers
[12:01] <laurens_s> shaantanu: but didn't you just compile it already?
[12:01] <e-type> ls
[12:01] <e-type> hm... whoops
[12:04] <_w^x_> man I'm just having a crap day with tech stuff
[12:05] <_w^x_> Cinelerra CV has either bugs or my PC does'nt have enough crunching power
[12:05] <dggoldst> w^x, sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you
[12:05] <_w^x_> Cinelerra keeps freezing up.
[12:05] <_w^x_> And I really want/need this app
[12:05] <_w^x_> but oh well
[12:08] <shaantan1> ?nick tarbomb\
[12:08] <Goudini> hello
[12:09] <TLE> does clamav check e-mail in thunderbird? And if not is there a way to make it so?
[12:09] <selinuxium> hi all, I have made a move from programming to sysadmin and I was looking for some advice on networking tools. What are the good ones? Can I get a Novell VPN client? Is it possible to view a windows RDP seesion in Ubuntu?
[12:10] <laurens_s> tarbomb: did you compile the plugin yet?
[12:10] <selinuxium> TLE: on linux? viri' are not prevelent on Linux.
[12:10] <laurens_s> selinuxium: as for network & tools, don't know, but a RDP session is as easy as going to 'Applications, Internet' and clicking
[12:11] <laurens_s> selinuxium: terminal server client
[12:11] <ISOLATEDViRuS> is it app-get? or get-app? i forget the sommand -_-
[12:11] <ISOLATEDViRuS> command*
[12:11] <laurens_s> apt-get
[12:11] <Healot> apt-get
[12:11] <ISOLATEDViRuS> apt
[12:11] <Healot> !apt-get
[12:11] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[12:11] <ISOLATEDViRuS> freaking t
[12:11] <ISOLATEDViRuS> kthx guys
[12:12] <selinuxium> laurens_s: cheer.,
[12:12] <selinuxium> laurens_s: cheers even! :)
[12:12] <thoreauputic> ISOLATEDViRuS: Advanced Package Tool = apt
[12:12] <kapheroph> fyrstrtr: seya and thanks again for the help :)
[12:14] <TLE> selinuxium: I know, the only reason why I want e-mail scanning is so that I don't pass anything on to friends
[12:14] <kapheroph> ......fyrestrtr....sorry
[12:14] <laurens_s> selinuxium: ;p
[12:15] <selinuxium> TLE: Ok :)
[12:16] <Goudini>
[12:16] <Goudini> http://nextworld.ru/?rid=389522
[12:18] <|DuReX|>  is it possible to convert a RAID0 to a RAID5 with mdadm ?
[12:21] <tarbomb> lauren : what does the second step in http://www.synce.org/index.php/Install_Gnome_VFS_Plugin mean ...
[12:21] <tarbomb> which filedirectory , they r talkin abt
[12:22] <laurens_s> tarbomb: you mean 'compile and install'?
[12:22] <tarbomb> ya
[12:22] <laurens_s> tarbomb: i'll have a quick look
[12:22] <tarbomb> k
[12:23] <klm-> what's the best wifi sniffer for gnome?
[12:23] <laurens_s> tarbomb: try doing  a 'cd trunk/gnomevfs'
[12:23] <tarbomb> k
[12:23] <laurens_s> klm: wifiradar?
[12:23] <laurens_s> tarbomb: works?
[12:23] <tarbomb> wait
[12:23] <laurens_s> k
[12:24] <black_pignouf> Bonjour  tous!
[12:26] <tarbomb> lauren : doesnt work
[12:26] <laurens_s> tarbomb: try doing  a 'cd synce/trunk/gnomevfs'
[12:26] <laurens_s> tarbomb: I assume you did do the svn part?
[12:27] <tarbomb> ya its underway
[12:27] <laurens_s> then you have to wait a bit more
[12:27] <tarbomb> k
[12:27] <bilss_> whats the command line to give root prilages to user admin?
[12:27] <tarbomb> sudo
[12:28] <bilss_> ok
[12:28] <bilss_> thanks
[12:28] <tarbomb> !sudo > bilss_
[12:28] <laurens_s> tarbomb: or you could do 'svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce/trunk/gnomevfs/ gnomevfs'
[12:29] <tarbomb> hmm .. lemme see .. actually i ran out of space on my /
[12:29] <tarbomb> I m tryin to clean up now
[12:34] <selinuxium> !radeon > selinuxium
[12:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about radeon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:35] <HNT> Hello everybody,
[12:35] <HNT> i'v got a big problem : alsa is'nt running, so i don't have sound anymore
[12:35] <HNT> 'iv got alsa-tools and during the boot the message "Alsa starting up" ok , come.
[12:35] <HNT> When i type ps -fe | grep alsa, i don't get anything and rcconf don't allow me to start him (alsa isn't in the list) so, any solution ?
[12:35] <Moof> is there a way to set up a bunch of ssh tunnels in an init script that will auto-reconnect when they drop?
[12:36] <lassegs> hi please help. My disk looks like this hda1=winxp(ntfs) hda2=ubuntu(ext3) hda3=swap. I reinstalled windows, now im not able to boot to linux. i need help with restoring grub!
[12:36] <fyrestrtr> !grub
[12:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:36] <gotama> Hi there!
[12:36] <HNT> no idea for the alsa problem ?
[12:37] <gotama> I've just installed ubuntu server via netboot
[12:37] <gotama> I have the next message from grub
[12:38] <e-type> HNT: does alsamixer show your channels?
[12:38] <gotama> GRUB loading, please wait ... error 18
[12:38] <gotama> What does it mean? How to fix it?
[12:39] <gotama> I installed and reinstalled and the problem reamins.
[12:39] <HNT> e-type : yes he does
[12:39] <nocti> gotama, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77042.html
[12:39] <e-type> HNT: are your channels unmuted and up?
[12:39] <laurens_s> gotama: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18
[12:40] <userstat-ubuntu> test1
[12:40] <lassegs> the howto on how to restore grub from installer must be outdated? i cant figure out to do that i dapper...
[12:41] <gotama> Thanks a lot. I'll take a look at the URLs.
[12:41] <HNT> e-type : yes they are
[12:42] <e-type> HNT: what's the error if you run an audio application from terminal?
[12:43] <lassegs> In the grub tool when i type 'root (hd0,2), which is my ext3 partition with both / and /boot, it just says grub> root (hd0,2) Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82
[12:43] <lassegs> anyone knows what my problem is?
[12:43] <laurens_s> lassegs: no guarantees, and just a stab in the dark, but can't you use the live-cd, select 'boot installed system', and then do sudo grub?
[12:43] <e-type> HNT: easiest with mplayer or a player that let's you specify the audio driver
[12:44] <HNT> e-type : (rhythmbox:5403): Rhythmbox-WARNING **: Unable to start mDNS browsing
[12:44] <HNT> the only one warning
[12:45] <laurens_s> HNT: that's normal
[12:45] <laurens_s> HNT: or: does so with me, too :)
[12:45] <HNT> this morning alsa runed fine, now i'v installed xgl, don't know if it influence alsa ?
[12:45] <e-type> HNT: shouldn't, and that's not an alsa error
[12:45] <nocti> HNT, uninstall xgl?
[12:46] <HNT> no, not uninstall xgl but try to start with xorg, that's not logic
[12:46] <e-type> HNT: what if you run esd or restart in terminal?
[12:46] <timpy> Hello, I installed ubuntu-server, but when I log in EVERYTHING is in capital letters , and when I type it accepts my commands, but the result isn't always visible
[12:46] <timpy> what could be causing this?
[12:46] <e-type> HNT: erm, run/restart esd I mean
[12:48] <xerophyte> Cpu(s): 0.3% us, 1.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 42.3% id, 3.0% wa, 53.3% hi, 0.0% si  I know id = idle, and us=user, sy=system, but what does wa, hi, si eash mean?
[12:49] <longwave> wa=wait (for disk access), hi=hardware interrupt, si=software interrupt i believe
[12:49] <timpy> I rebooted, it's fixed now
[12:49] <yeager> ni=nice?
[12:49] <HNT> how can i start esd ?
[12:49] <e-type> HNT: by the way, alsa is in kernel space, so it will never show up in $(ps) stuff
[12:49] <e-type> HNT: '$ esd' ;)
[12:49] <e-type> HNT: the fact that your alsamixer shows your channels prooves that your alsa is okay
[12:51] <HNT> esd is already running
[12:51] <xerophyte> longwave, where can i check them just wondering man top does not give me
[12:53] <tuxtux> ciao
[12:54] <HNT> so i go in my menu > system > preference > multimedia system selector and i try to use esd for the default output but it don't work
[12:55] <acersales> hi i am typing a 'clear' command on the console and gettting the error 'terminal is not a console'
[12:58] <laurens_s> acersales: now that's odd :)
[12:58] <HNT> how can i delete all the configuration files of alsa (for my account and for the computer :: /etc) ?
[12:58] <HNT> to start with a correct configuration, maybe, i do a bad manipulation
[12:59] <nocti> HNT, rm -frv /
[01:00] <laurens_s> HNT: don't do the rm thing!
[01:00] <Nameeater> bad nocti
[01:01] <nocti> just kidding :)
[01:01] <HNT> this is stupid no ?, it will delete all my system
[01:01] <laurens_s> HNT: indeed
[01:01] <Ng> nocti: that's not funny and it is extremely stupid
[01:01] <HNT> in french : andouille
[01:01] <Ng> nocti: it's the kind of thing that will earn you a kick/ban
[01:01] <nocti> heh, forgive me guys, i didnt add sudo :)
[01:01] <Frostbite> Does Ubuntu Server use debian unstable as an upstream?
[01:03] <tarbomb> lauren : do u suggest svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce/trunk/gnomevfs/ gnomevfs' instead of svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/synce synce ??
[01:03] <laurens_s> tarbomb: well, yes, that would just give you the plugin for gnome, instead of everything they are working on.
[01:03] <tarbomb> k
[01:03] <tarbomb> thanx
[01:04] <acersales> any idea guyz ?
[01:04] <grendel_> afternoon folks
[01:05] <grendel_> anyone here using edgy and openldap?
[01:07] <zenwhen> whats now
[01:08] <grendel_> zenwhen: are you asking me or somebody else?
[01:09] <zenwhen> put text into wrong channel
[01:09] <grendel_> ah, k
[01:10] <opexoc> hi
[01:10] <opexoc> i am new there :)
[01:11] <usam1> hi all
[01:12] <opexoc> hi usam1
[01:13] <manmadha> any one know how to do graphics programs using  c
[01:13] <manmadha> ?
[01:13] <usam1> i wanna ask a question. what will happen if someone replace his source.list with the source.list of debian and then perform a system upgrade (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade)?
[01:13] <Moof> is there a way to keep an ssh tunnel auto-reconnecting?
[01:13] <laurens_s> manmadha: I use www.wxwidgets.org (although that's c++)
[01:13] <salah> hwo do I kill processes with "zombie" status?
[01:13] <m1ckeyknox> is there a way to run the "software updates" utility... but from command line (ie ssh)?
[01:13] <salah> *how
[01:14] <mcphail> usam1: that someone would break their system
[01:14] <Megant> hello
[01:14] <salah> m1ckeyknox, yes, apt-get update
[01:14] <selinuxium> Any idea on how I can VPN connect to a Novell Border manager server/
[01:14] <selinuxium> ?
[01:14] <mcphail> manmadha: use the GTK libraries
[01:14] <usam1> mcphail: hmm,
[01:14] <m1ckeyknox> salah: thank you. and that will update anything installled through apt-get, correct?
[01:14] <Megant> "(WW) NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:5:0) found
[01:15] <Megant> What can you tell?
[01:15] <Megant> So X doesn't start
[01:15] <salah> m1ckeyknox, no, that updates the source list. use apt-get update first, then apt-get upgrade to upgrade to update softwares
[01:15] <usam1> mcphail: and is it possible to use the debian repos (some or all) with the repos of ubuntu (in source.list)?
[01:15] <m1ckeyknox> so: 1) apt-get update 2) apt-get upgrade
[01:15] <manmadha> mcphail, can u guide me.....(i compile the programs in borland c++.......using the functions putpixel(),initgraph().......how to do this in linux........??)
[01:16] <mcphail> usam1: only if you want a very unstable system which could break at any update
[01:16] <m1ckeyknox> when it's done, how do I issue a restart command?
[01:16] <m1ckeyknox> (or know if one is necessary?)
[01:16] <usam1> mcphail: thanks for the guidence
[01:16] <salah> m1ckeyknox, it's not necessary if the kernel isn't updated
[01:16] <mcphail> manmadha: there are documents on GTK and GDK in the repos
[01:17] <opexoc> how can i restart X not to restart computer ?
[01:17] <Megant> press ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:17] <manmadha> mcphail, thank u
[01:17] <salah> opexoc, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm force-reload or just CTRL + ALT + Backspace
[01:17] <mcphail> manmadha: the imagemagick libraries also have an api for drawing
[01:17] <opexoc> Megant,salah: thx, i will try
[01:18] <m1ckeyknox> thanks salah
[01:18] <m1ckeyknox> have a great day.
[01:18] <salah> you too
[01:18] <rc55> Odd question, but can you do xgl accelleration on intel based graphics chipsets?
[01:18] <manmadha> laurens_s, u r link is for c++ only.
[01:18] <salah> rc55, which chipset?
[01:18] <Megant> X config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21534
[01:19] <Megant> AIGLX should work at least I think
[01:19] <rc55> salah: 865 iirc
[01:19] <laurens_s> manmadha: yeah, that's what I mentioned: manmadha: I use www.wxwidgets.org (although that's c++)
[01:19] <salah> rc55, unless you have installed the drivers, no, I don't think so
[01:19] <mcphail> manmadha: if you are brave, you can use the X API directly. I wouldn't recommend this
[01:19] <Megant> Can you help me?
[01:20] <laurens_s> manmadha: http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/ - that's c
[01:20] <manmadha> thank u
[01:20] <salah> manmadha, or for python: http://pygtk.org/tutorial
[01:20] <salah> http://pygtk.org sorry
[01:21] <mcphail> manmadha: you may also wish to trawl through some of the GIMP source code
[01:21] <Megant> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:05:0
[01:21] <Megant> (WW) NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:5:0) found
[01:21] <Megant> (EE) No devices detected.
[01:21] <Megant> But my         BusID           "PCI:3:0:0"
[01:22] <DBO> Megant, I would comment your BusID line out, its usually not needed unless you are trying to do dual head and such
[01:22] <laurens_s> megant: do a sudo pico /etc/x11/xorg.conf and change the 0:5:0 to 3:0:0
[01:22] <laurens_s> megant:  remember to backup though.
[01:23] <Megant> laurens_s: well, i have there 3:0:0
[01:23] <rbman> I've posted a pretty detailed question on a dual boot issue I'm facing with grub (with file dumps) at http://www.phpriot.com/3687   any help GREATLY appreciated!  And yes, I've read manuals/faqs/and how-tos...
[01:23] <manga> e
[01:23] <selinuxium>  Hi all, I am going crazy here! I am trying to find a way to negotiate a VPN on a Novell Bordermanager server with Ubuntu. Has anyone had this experience? Any Ideas?
[01:23] <Megant> DBO: I don't think that X find my
[01:23] <Megant> argh, lag
[01:23] <dalila> is it posssible to search  'search' the ubuntu mailing list by subject?
[01:23] <Gonzo> i have an executable that is looking for a .so that is in ../lib but cannot find it...
[01:23] <Megant> I'll test
[01:24] <laurens_s> megant:  then, I don't know ...
[01:24] <laurens_s> gonzo: which one?
[01:24] <Gonzo> its part of a program that i installed in /usr/program
[01:24] <erUSUL> Megant: do you have the fixed xerver-xorg-core installed, don't you?
[01:24] <Gonzo> im running /usr/program/bin/myProgram
[01:25] <Gonzo> and it can't find a dependant .so in /usr/program/lib
[01:25] <laurens_s> gonzo: ah. I see
[01:25] <Bacta> hey i can't get any sound on Ubuntu
[01:25] <laurens_s> gonzo: just a sec
[01:25] <Gonzo> ok
[01:26] <Bacta> i've heard its a big problem with Ubuntu...where do I start fixing this??
[01:26] <erUSUL> !sound
[01:26] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[01:27] <Bacta> i don't have a multimedia system selector on my preferences menu
[01:27] <AnAmiC> hey guys, how is the security with mounting ntfs writeable and using it that way? ^^
[01:27] <Gonzo> bacta im not sure but modprobe <soundmoduke> use to work back in teh days when the sound didn't work
[01:27] <sixtsixfps> is this X update thats nagging me the broken package or is it a fix for the broken package
[01:27] <Bacta> is modprobe a program?
[01:27] <Gonzo> yep
[01:27] <laurens_s> gonzo: you could try adding a script, like here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21535
[01:27] <Bacta> how do i run it?
[01:28] <laurens_s> gonzo: can you adapt that for your own program?
[01:28] <Gonzo> so all i need is get my LD_LIBRARY to point on the lib folder?
[01:28] <Gonzo> u guess so
[01:28] <Gonzo> (i'll just add it to my .bashrc)
[01:28] <laurens_s> dont do that
[01:28] <Gonzo> why not?
[01:28] <laurens_s> gonzo: it might break like a lot of other programs
[01:29] <erUSUL> Bacta: run gstreamer-properties
[01:29] <Bacta> Gonzo: How do I run that program?
[01:29] <Gonzo> why would it?
[01:29] <Gonzo> i dont think the lib names will conflict
[01:29] <Bacta> so i type gstreamer-properties on bash?
[01:29] <laurens_s> gonzo: since it replaces your current LD_LIBRARY_PATH instead of adding it  :)
[01:29] <Gonzo> bacta i would have though just "modprobe" but im not sure
[01:29] <Gonzo> laurens_s:  i meant concatenating the path to the variable
[01:29] <laurens_s> gonzo: that should be no prob :) But no guarantees
[01:30] <Gonzo> will try anyway
[01:30] <Gonzo> thanks for your help :)
[01:30] <Bacta> it just gives me a list of parameters
[01:30] <laurens_s> gonzo: np :)
[01:30] <Gonzo> Bacta:  you need to add your kernel sound module as parametre
[01:30] <opexoc> I have some image *.nrg how can i display it ?
[01:30] <Gonzo> as i said "modprobe <sound module>
[01:30] <Bacta> Gonzo: whats that?
[01:30] <dalila> i am kind of dissapointed  that searching the mailing list, google, and here in 3 days i can't find a way to configure or get working a ps/2 mouse
[01:30] <Gonzo> its your sound card driver i assume
[01:30] <laurens_s> gonzo: alternatively, you could just make a little script for your program, editing line 2 & three
[01:31] <Bacta> im totally lost here
[01:31] <Gonzo> laurens_s: i might have to link with some of this libs in the future anyway
[01:31] <Gonzo> Bacta: to get your sound card working... you need a sound driver
[01:31] <Gonzo> following me so far?
[01:31] <Bacta> where do i get the sound driver?
[01:31] <laurens_s> gonzo: ok, then the .bashrc idea isn't such a bad idea
[01:32] <Gonzo> its either built in.. or o the website of your manufacturer
[01:32] <Gonzo> it is not impossible that your sound card is not supported
[01:32] <laurens_s> dalila: It should 'just work'
[01:32] <Gonzo> i would find out what it is and then google ubuntu sound problem <sound card name>
[01:32] <Bacta> my soundcard is an Intel built in one
[01:32] <laurens_s> dalila: does it work on the live cd?
[01:32] <rbman> dalila http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1264361 (broken gdm)
[01:32] <Gonzo> you might just find some interesting read
[01:32] <dalila> laurens_s: well i have tired 2 mice ,one brandnew and no luck
[01:32] <Bacta> and how the hell could it not be supported???
[01:32] <Bacta> lol
[01:32] <dalila> no it does not work for the live cd either
[01:32] <Gonzo> i dont know...
[01:33] <Gonzo> both my sound cards worked without problem...
[01:33] <Bacta> i thought Linux did everything
[01:33] <Gonzo> except for the fact that the active one switch every time i reboot
[01:33] <Gonzo> very annoying to unplug and replug the cabale
[01:33] <Bacta> how do i find out what my soundcard is?
[01:33] <erUSUL> Bacta: lspci
[01:33] <Gonzo> Bacta: it does... as logn that you have what you need to do it
[01:33] <Gonzo> if you dont ... then it wont
[01:33] <Gonzo> its not linux
[01:33] <Gonzo> its computers in general
[01:33] <Urden> anyone know where the kernel sources are installed by default on dapper?
[01:34] <rbman> dalila check the suggestions here --> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1264361 (broken gdm)
[01:34] <Seveas> Urden, they aren't installed by default
[01:34] <erUSUL> Urden: /usr/src/
[01:34] <Gonzo> brb trying to get that program working
[01:34] <rbman> Bacta what kind of machine do you have?
[01:34] <dalila> rbman: well x is working for me is just the mouse >> currently reading your suggestion
[01:35] <Urden> Seveas, how can i install them for the 2.6.x series?  i only see a 2.4.x package in synaptic
[01:35] <Bacta> this is what i get 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High De finition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[01:35] <Seveas> Urden, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.15
[01:35] <Bacta> and rbman I have a Acer Travelmate 4072WLMi and its a laptop
[01:36] <Urden> Seveas, package not found
[01:36] <Seveas> Urden, which version of Ubuntu do you use?
[01:37] <Urden> dapper
[01:37] <Bacta> this is frustrating the hell out of me
[01:37] <opexoc> I have opened some .nrg file in mplayer i can see video but i can't hear any voice. this is image of some dvd file. what might be a problem ?
[01:37] <kaot> Bacta: that the only audio controller listed?  My buddy's got a laptop with apparently a pretty similar mobo, he's got an AC'97 compatible card tho
[01:38] <Seveas> Urden, then your sources.list is incomplete
[01:38] <dalila> rbman: i dont see how that could help
[01:38] <Bacta> kaot: do you want me to paste my lspci somewhere?
[01:38] <AnAmiC> hey guys, how is the security with mounting ntfs writeable and using it that way?
[01:38] <Urden> Seveas, i compiled the official 2.6.17 kernel last night from kernel.org, but it dosent have some of the drivers i need for my wifi card, so i was hoping i could just recompile the stock 2.6.15 ubuntu kernel sources
[01:38] <admo> opexoc: install the nrg2iso program, then convert your file
[01:38] <erUSUL> opexoc: afaik opexoc *.nrg is a Nero cd/dvd image convert it to iso and burn/mount it
[01:39] <opexoc> admo: thx, i will try
[01:39] <Urden> Seveas, you mean i need to enable some additional repos?
[01:39] <erUSUL> !info linux-source-2.6.15
[01:39] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.15: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-26.46 (dapper), package size 43476 kB, installed size 43612 kB
[01:39] <Seveas> Urden, in that case: sudo apt-get build-dep linux-source-2.6.15 && apt-get -b source linux-source-2.6.15
[01:39] <Urden> ok
[01:40] <opexoc> erUSUL: how can i mount it ? mount file.iso and that's it ?
[01:40] <Bacta> ok guys heres my lspci http://pastebin.com/774727
[01:40] <Bacta> im totally lost in this...i'm a cosc student but that dosn't make me a Unix hacker my any stretch of the imagination...so u can imagine how i feel lol
[01:41] <erUSUL> opexoc: mount -t iso9660 /path/to/file.iso /mount/point -o loop=/dev/loop/0 iirc
[01:41] <Chousuke> -o loop is enough
[01:42] <magical_trevsky> does anyone know if it is possible to sync amarok with a windows mobile pda? I already have the pda 'mounted' (I can browse it's files from it's desktop icon)
[01:42] <dalila> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/412   this is all i find
[01:42] <opexoc> erUSUL: ok, i will try. thx
[01:42] <joyrom> hello
[01:42] <joyrom> how are you people
[01:42] <joyrom> I'm looking for a method for write ascii char
[01:43] <joyrom> that aren't on the keyboard
[01:43] <joyrom> in Winzozz this char are available with alt+numpad
[01:43] <joyrom> anyone can me help
[01:43] <laurens_s> joyrom: applications, accessories, character map
[01:43] <shaantanu> hey ppl I have run out of space on my root partition, is there any way by which ... without formatting , I cud inc the space ( and yes ofcourse I have uninstalled all the useless softwares)
[01:43] <joyrom> but I want to write with the keyboard
[01:44] <joyrom> with a combination of key
[01:44] <laurens_s> joyrom: don't know
[01:44] <joyrom> thank you laurens_s anyway
[01:44] <erUSUL> Bacta: your card is an integrated codec by intel that should use snd-hda-intel as driver afaics
[01:44] <nach0s> Hi all, id like to know how printer works in ubuntu! when i plug the printer, dbus and udev recognize the device and make it usefull, To print i use cups and the correct drive! is it??
[01:44] <joyrom> I'm waiting for anyother suggest
[01:44] <rambo3> joyrom:
[01:44] <erUSUL> nach0s: yes
[01:45] <laurens_s> nach0s: basically, yeah
[01:45] <Bacta> erUSUL: so what does this mean?
[01:45] <rambo3> !info python2.4-minimal
[01:45] <ubotu> python2.4-minimal: A minimal subset of the Python language (version 2.4). In component main, is required. Version 2.4.3-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 685 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[01:45] <shaantanu>  hey ppl I have run out of space on my root partition, is there any way by which ... without formatting , I cud inc the space ( and yes ofcourse I have uninstalled all the useless softwares)
[01:45] <laurens_s> bacta: try modprobe snd-hda-intel
[01:45] <erUSUL> Bacta: run 'lsmod | grep hda-intel'  gives any output ?
[01:45] <nach0s> erUSUL,  laurens_s, another question... the saned package is needed just by ltsp?
[01:45] <erUSUL> shaantanu: you can move your home dir to another partition
[01:46] <joyrom> rambo3: tell me
[01:46] <shaantanu> that must be ext3 ... right ??
[01:46] <laurens_s> nach0s: no clue, search on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:46] <Tidus> ;
[01:46] <joyrom> rambo3: Have you any solution for my problem?
[01:46] <erUSUL> shaantanu: yes, why not?
[01:46] <Bacta> lauren_s: done it...what next?
[01:46] <shaantanu> erUSUL: that wont mess up my existing install ??
[01:46] <rambo3> joyrom: no i just joind what was your question
[01:46] <Bacta> erUSUL: dosn't give me any output
[01:47] <laurens_s> bacta: what's the output?
[01:47] <homerh_linux> howdy ppl is there any way of speeding up printing over my smb network
[01:47] <erUSUL> shaantanu: no you have to copy de data to the new partition and then add an entry in fstab for that partition
[01:47] <Bacta> lauren_s: no output
[01:47] <erUSUL> Bacta: try 'sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel'
[01:47] <rambo3> there is a good howto on IBM about moving/ home
[01:47] <laurens_s> bacta: lsmod|grep hda-intel shoud should then show up with something
[01:48] <shaantanu> erUSUL: I m quite a n00b to understand that
[01:48] <joyrom> rambo3 I want to write ascii char that aren't on the keyboard like tilde
[01:48] <nach0s> Its possible to upgrade to edgy??? or not yet?
[01:48] <laurens_s> nach0s: not yet
[01:48] <lupine_85> it is possible, but not recommended
[01:48] <nach0s> laurens_s, thanks
[01:48] <nach0s> oks..
[01:48] <laurens_s> nach0s: it is possible, but not reccommended unless you're a developer
[01:48] <shaantanu> erUSUL
[01:48] <lupine_85> (was speaking to a developer yesterday about it; he said give it a couple of weeks)
[01:48] <lupine_85> anyone know how to generate the Module.symvers file in linux-headers-2.6.15-26 ?
[01:49] <rambo3> joyrom: there is char* program for that , type char and press tab to complite. i dont have GUI i am in text mode so i cant swith to check it
[01:49] <Urden> Seveas, thanks
[01:49] <Bacta> lauren_s: shows up nothing...even when i put a sudo before it
[01:49] <shaantanu> !fstab
[01:49] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[01:49] <joyrom> in text mode what's the solution
[01:50] <pequatre> hi. Does anyone else has this pb with k3b: when you start it nothing happens but at the next reboot it opens ? is there a fix ?
[01:50] <erUSUL> shaantanu: well i do not know how to explain it better... You copy the data that is under home/ to the new partition and then add this new partition to /etc/fstab and tell it to mount under /home.
[01:50] <nach0s> there is a problem in the first line of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[01:50] <laurens_s> bacta: do dmesg|tail -n 10
[01:50] <shaantanu> k
[01:50] <joyrom> rambo3: I know in Windows OS, there's a combination of key alt+numpad
[01:50] <Bacta> lauren_s: ok i got some output...would u like me to pastebin it?
[01:51] <laurens_s> bacta: yes
[01:52] <Bacta> http://pastebin.com/774731
[01:52] <erUSUL> shaantanu: take a look at my fstab to see what i mean i have three main partitions for my system... / /boot and /home
[01:53] <AAAle> Hi all, i've got a nvidia 6600gt correctly installed but after 5 minutes playing in all games system freeze. Someone got this kind of problem?
[01:53] <kaot> AAAle: you get this under windows at all too?  almost sounds like you might be overheating.
[01:54] <AAAle> kaot, don't have windows installed, in gentoo all works great
[01:54] <erUSUL> shaantanu: i found a how to in the web http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[01:54] <kaot> ah.  alrighty then.  When my vid card fan died, mine would lock after a few minutes, dunno what's up with yours.
[01:55] <AAAle> kaot, thanks by the way :P
[01:55] <erUSUL> shaantanu: making this is worth if it is the files under home the ones that takes most of the space of course. du -hs /home to see
[01:55] <Udaniel>
[01:55] <Udaniel> hii
[01:55] <Bacta> lauren_s: see anything wrong in that output?
[01:57] <evil_monkey> hello
[01:58] <stegozor> Hi everyone, I wonder whether it is apprpriate to report a bug on launchpad.net about a package (universe) that is not officially supported by ubuntu (no little logo in front of the package in synaptic)
[01:58] <opexoc> i have opened this iso but not like a DVD disc, but like a some movie and that's why i can't profit from menu of this DVD. When i want to get ( Open->Play DVD ) then mplayer prompts "Failed to open dvd://1 " What can i do ?
[01:59] <laurens_s> bacta: sorry, was away from keyboard: I expected it to show it had loaded the driver, but it does not. I'm no expert, so I don't think I can help you with your specific problem
[01:59] <shaantanu> erUSUL: u there ??
[01:59] <erUSUL> shaantanu: yes
[01:59] <tuxtux> bye bye
[01:59] <shaantanu> just a sec
[01:59] <laurens_s> laurens_s: you could search https://launchpad.net for your soundchip
[02:00] <Bacta> which is snd-hda-intel ?
[02:01] <shaantanu> erUSUL:do u recon I shud add something like "/dev/hda5     /media/hda5      ext3" to my fstab
[02:01] <shaantanu> ??
[02:02] <laurens_s> bacta, no an Intel Corporation 82801FB
[02:02] <laurens_s> bacta: which presumably uses snd-hda-intel, but I'm not sure
[02:03] <laurens_s> !launchpad
[02:03] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[02:03] <Gonzo> is ubuntuforum.org down?
[02:03] <cafuego> Not just and-intel8x0?
[02:03] <Gonzo> is ubuntuforums.org down?
[02:03] <Webspot> are the ubuntu repositories running slow?
[02:03] <laurens_s> gonzo: seems like it here. Did you get your program to run?
[02:04] <Webspot> Or is it just me?
[02:04] <Gonzo> yes... sort of
[02:04] <Gonzo> anyway that solve dthe lib problem
[02:04] <gilianima> I've got a bug whn displaying text in some windows on gnome, the text disappear and reappear if I click on it. Someone knows how to solve this problem ?
[02:04] <laurens_s> gonzo: good :)
[02:05] <Gonzo> thx again
[02:05] <Gonzo> :)
[02:05] <erUSUL> shaantanu: take a look at the how to i gave you... http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[02:05] <shaantanu> k
[02:05] <laurens_s> gonzo: np, just wanted to know if it helped :)
[02:05] <erUSUL> shaantanu: there you can see the entire process explained
[02:06] <shaantanu> gee thanx mann
[02:06] <Crazed> is it just me or are there more ppl having trouble with the ubuntu repositories atm ?
[02:06] <erUSUL> shaantanu: no problem
[02:06] <Crazed> they are rly slow and some dont even connec
[02:06] <Crazed> t
[02:07] <Crazed>  7543B/s 4m23s
[02:07] <Crazed> :S
[02:07] <laurens_s> crazed: seems like it, problems with ubuntuforums.org too, as webspot also spotted.
[02:08] <laurens_s> crazed: slow here too.
[02:08] <Crazed> hmm ok
[02:08] <laurens_s> crazed: 27 kb/s
[02:08] <LiteWait> hey all: just installed xubuntu and I can see my Matrox G450 mentioned in xorg.conf (and some reasonable modes).  But my display settings only show 320x240 :-(
[02:09] <laurens_s> litewait: make a backup of your xorg.conf, and try to dpkg-reconfigure your xorg
[02:09] <laurens_s> litewait: during that, you can specify resolutions
[02:10] <laurens_s> !dpg-reconfigure
[02:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpg-reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <chameleon> hi all. just browsed through /var/log/message and found this: Aug 24 08:02:06 localhost -- MARK -- What does it mean?
[02:12] <LiteWait> laurens_s: which package do I reconfigure?
[02:12] <laurens_s> chameleon: that your system is not dead
[02:12] <chameleon> thx god!!!
[02:12] <laurens_s> chameleon: It puts notes there if there' s nothing to report, basically, just to tell you that it was still alive & kicking (to at least some degree), so that in case of a system crash, you roughly know when it happpened
[02:13] <laurens_s> litewait: xorg-server?
[02:13] <laurens_s> litewait: not 100% sure
[02:13] <chameleon> ,thx
[02:14] <laurens_s> chameleon: np :)
[02:14] <protocol2> is there command I can use in console to open up network manager?
[02:15] <DBO> protocol2, which network manager?
[02:15] <dmsantam> protocol2, network-admin
[02:15] <laurens_s> protocol2, network-manager?
[02:15] <protocol2> yeah
[02:15] <DBO> use gksudo on both of those
[02:15] <DBO> they will want root
[02:15] <laurens_s> offtopic: doh, I just found out x-chat understands <tab> to complete usernames...
[02:15] <dmsantam> laurens_s, welcome to a whole new world of IRC :)
[02:15] <chameleon> start woried.I have no 'MARK' relatives
[02:16] <laurens_s> dmsantam, thanks :)
[02:16] <frogzoo> is xserver-xorg-core 1:1.0.2 10.4 going to break x for me?
[02:16] <dmsantam> frogzoo, no
[02:16] <laurens_s> frogzoo, it shouldn't
[02:16] <rambo3_> !xorgfix
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xorgfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:16] <dmsantam> frogzoo, it's fixed. 10.3 was the screwed one
[02:16] <frogzoo> dmsantam: k, thx
[02:18] <lacostepf> Hi, I just installed ubuntu on a new machine and F11, F12 Home and End keys don't work with my keyboard (Logitech Deluxe Access). I've tried showkeys in the console and they don't seem to be recognized. How can I make those keys work ?
[02:19] <LiteWait> laurens_s: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ran me through it.  Now (embarrased to say) how do I restart X?
[02:19] <laurens_s> !x-restart
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x-restart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <protocol2> I just got network settings.....it didnt take me to network-manager
[02:19] <laurens_s> LiteWait, are you in x now?
[02:20] <fyrestrtr> LiteWait: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:20] <laurens_s> fyrestrtr, tnx :)
[02:20] <webguy> when i do ls -a can someone tell me what each column represents
[02:20] <protocol2> how do I start network-manager applet?
[02:20] <laurens_s> protocol2, do you have it installed?
[02:20] <protocol2> yeah
[02:21] <LiteWait> all: to late I just rebooted :-)
[02:21] <Nameeater> when I do ls -a, I only see one column
[02:21] <fyrestrtr> webguy: each column is a list of files.
[02:21] <protocol2> normally it shows after I boot up
[02:21] <protocol2> but this time it hasnt
[02:21] <laurens_s> LiteWait, and? higher resolutions?
[02:21] <laurens_s> protocol2, tried rebooting?
[02:21] <webguy> i should have asked about ls -l
[02:21] <webguy> sorry
[02:22] <Nameeater> yes! :)
[02:22] <protocol2> maybe I should eh
[02:22] <protocol2> but I know there a command to start it somewhere
[02:22] <Nameeater> permissions, user, group (or other way around), size, date and time, filename
[02:22] <webguy> the file permissions are the first column ... but what comes after that
[02:22] <acidfk> hi i have a problem whit XGL in Ubuntu 6.06 whit the key ALT ( not ALT GR ) when i press the ALT key the windows active go to the next desktop can any one help me
[02:22] <acidfk> hi i have a problem whit XGL in Ubuntu 6.06 whit the key ALT ( not ALT GR ) when i press the ALT key the windows active go to the next desktop can any one help me
[02:23] <laurens_s> Nameeater, you conveniently forget the mysterious number after the file persmissions
[02:23] <webguy> Nameeater: that is exactly what i am trying to figure out ...
[02:23] <Nameeater> oh I didnt see that, my bad :)
[02:23] <fyrestrtr> webguy: permissions, number of symlinks owner group size filename
[02:23] <webguy> great thanks
[02:23] <protocol2> nm-applet?
[02:23] <LiteWait> lauren_s: set the display default to 1280x1024, reboot and now the max is 800x600 :-(
[02:23] <spungz> whats ubuntu?
[02:24] <alexdbkim> spungz, a Linux distribution
[02:24] <laurens_s> LiteWait, but at least it's higher :)
[02:24] <protocol2> thats the command I was looking for
[02:24] <protocol2> heh
[02:24] <laurens_s> LiteWait, perhaps the combination of resolution and colordepth is too much for your videocard
[02:24] <Nameeater> !ubuntu > spungz
[02:25] <spungz> oh computer stuff..kool. i dont know much about linux-im new here
[02:25] <patientfox> what do i have to do to get gnome to show the system icon tray?
[02:25] <patientfox> i dont see an applet for it...
[02:25] <acidfk> hi i have a problem whit XGL in Ubuntu 6.06 whit the key ALT ( not ALT GR ) when i press the ALT key the windows active go to the next desktop can any one help me
[02:25] <alexdbkim> is there anyone use MonoDevelop on Ubuntu?
[02:26] <Nameeater> Notification area under Add to panel
[02:26] <fyrestrtr> acidfk: xmodmap -e "/usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us"
[02:26] <Nameeater> acidfk: try #ubuntu-xgl for help
[02:26] <alexdbkim> I have a problem with MonoDevelop on Ubuntu.
[02:27] <acidfk> thanks! guys
[02:27] <patientfox> notification area?
[02:27] <alexdbkim> MonoDevelop's code compeletion doesn't work on Ubuntu. Does anyone have solution for that?
[02:28] <Nameeater> patientfox: I believe thats the tray?
[02:28] <patientfox> aww sweet
[02:28] <patientfox> thanks Nameeater
[02:29] <Nameeater> not a problem
[02:29] <spungz> nameeater is a funny name
[02:29] <fuzzybunny> yeah
[02:30] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, its not an ubuntu problem. it's a mono problem i'd say
[02:30] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, get on #mono
[02:30] <Nameeater> :) thought it up when I was like 12 on dalnet ;)
[02:30] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, but there is almost nobody on #mono :(
[02:30] <fuzzybunny> btw everyone, I've decided to take a shot at Ubuntu (I'm a MS Guy) and I spent $1k on a laptop that should arrive today...I intend on putting Kubuntu KDE on it
[02:30] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, yeah I already tried... :(
[02:30] <HanzZ> are somewhere packages for sim 0.9.4 ?
[02:30] <Miek> good choice fuzzybunny :p
[02:31] <lupine_85> did you check that all the hardware is compatible? ;)
[02:31] <fuzzybunny> thank you for the excellent stupport in this channel
[02:31] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, without code completion, C# coding is really painful
[02:31] <fuzzybunny> its an Alienware Area-51 5550
[02:31] <milkyway> hello
[02:31] <fuzzybunny> debian runs on it
[02:31] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, im sure it is :)
[02:31] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, ill install mono, and see how it goes for me
[02:31] <Gibbster> Hi. After I installed alsa-oss, my sound stopped working. Any advice?
[02:31] <fuzzybunny> thank you Miek
[02:31] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, have you tried the mono documentation?
[02:31] <spungz> hello milkyway-are u another computer person?
[02:31] <milkyway> yes
[02:31] <protocol1> thats funny the reboot fixed my issue
[02:32] <milkyway> anyone familiar with apache2 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 segmentation faults ?
[02:32] <dalila> most of the search results i get seem to imply that there is an unresolved bug with ps/2 mice, is this a fair interpretation?
[02:32] <protocol1> Im curious as to why it did'nt show up on the previous boot?
[02:32] <fuzzybunny> so please tell me how this investment of time, money and energy into Ubuntu is going to pay off in the long run
[02:32] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, but I found one good thing that since Mono follows MS's library architecture, most of them are compatible. The major differences between Mono and .NET is windows programming part which means while Mono relies on GTK, .NET has Form libraries
[02:32] <fuzzybunny> vs about the same amount of money that I spent to complete my MCSA
[02:33] <taychouri-a> hello?
[02:33] <taychouri-a> Anyone there?
[02:33] <spungz> im here
[02:33] <taychouri-a> kk
[02:33] <fuzzybunny> me too
[02:33] <schunk> me also :)
[02:33] <spungz> but i dont know much about computers
[02:33] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, which means I can compile most of classes on both side
[02:33] <spungz> i wish i did
[02:33] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, great :)
[02:33] <taychouri-a> I need a compiler, a good one that can make EXE's. cuz i have gcc i think and it cant make it
[02:33] <Gibbster> Anyone have any advice on sound troubleshooting?
[02:33] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, but winforms support is in progress
[02:33] <Nameeater> are you compiling c code?
[02:33] <lupine_85> biggest advantage of running ubuntu? erm. where to start...?
[02:33] <Gibbster> exes?
[02:34] <taychouri-a> i have to, i have to install GTK pod
[02:34] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, oh are they? =) that's good
[02:34] <schunk> exes are for windows :s
[02:34] <Ng> taychouri-a: have you installed the build-essential package?
[02:34] <laurens_s> fuzzybunny, http://www.skarulis.com/?p=22
[02:34] <fuzzybunny> no I'm being serious
[02:34] <taychouri-a> dunno
[02:34] <lupine_85> taychouri-a: you need to build a toolchain to cross-compile to the PE/Win32 environment
[02:34] <taychouri-a> lemme see
[02:34] <Juhaz> dmsantam, we can only hope nobody will ever be insane enough to use that support to write something new
[02:34] <lupine_85> fuzzybunny: me too.
[02:34] <Nameeater> taychouri-a: does the one in the repo's not work?
[02:34] <taychouri-a> not exe
[02:34] <taychouri-a> my bad
[02:34] <taychouri-a> lol
[02:34] <taychouri-a> ones ec
[02:34] <taychouri-a> it says
[02:34] <Miek> fuzzybunny: i guess it depends what kind of things you do with it
[02:34] <dmsantam> Juhaz, i think it's inevitable that somebody will :)
[02:34] <lupine_85> there are so many advantages, it's unreal
[02:34] <taychouri-a> It Cannont Create Executables
[02:34] <Ng> I would guess that taychouri-a saw a configure message saying that the compiler can't create executables
[02:34] <taychouri-a> i am a noob sorry
[02:34] <fuzzybunny> I dropped 1k on my MCSA a year ago and its really paid dividends
[02:34] <Ng> yep :)
[02:35] <laurens_s> taychouri-a, sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[02:35] <lupine_85> job-wise, you mean?
[02:35] <fuzzybunny> yeah
[02:35] <fuzzybunny> how is this going to broaden my knowledge horizon
[02:35] <spungz> are you guys all adults or just teenagers?
[02:35] <fuzzybunny> and make me more marketable?
[02:35] <Ng> fuzzybunny: lupine_85: you should really be on #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:35] <fuzzybunny> <--- 28
[02:35] <fuzzybunny> oh I'm sorry
[02:35] <taychouri-a> <----14
[02:35] <lupine_85> well, considering that most Internet servers are run on LAMP, knowing linux will really open up the market
[02:36] <milkyway> any apache diehard inhere ?
[02:36] <Nameeater> never hurts to ask milkyway, you never know
[02:36] <Gibbster> anyone have any advice on getting my sound working?
[02:36] <Matthai> hi, does anybody know how to set that my IP on freenode is invisible?
[02:36] <Juhaz> dmsantam, I'm afraid you're right
[02:37] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, join DALnet and ask there
[02:37] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, ok
[02:37] <Nameeater> Matthai: /msg fn'nickserv help  and not really the place to ask :)
[02:37] <taychouri-a> Ng: I am getting the Build-Essential Package, is that what i need to not get that error?
[02:37] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, go to XChat->Server List. then select DALNet. then: /j #korea
[02:37] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, and maybe somebody there will know
[02:38] <Miek> Matthai: ask a network staffer for a cloak, check the FAQ for more info: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[02:38] <lupine_85> assuming the error was because you didn't have (e.g.) the linker (binutils) installed, "yes"
[02:38] <taychouri-a> Ng:  The Effin file wont even download on synaptic
[02:38] <taychouri-a> It said failed
[02:38] <taychouri-a> ...
[02:39] <Ng> taychouri-a: close synaptic and in a terminal run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[02:40] <taychouri-a> what does sudo mean?
[02:40] <lupine_85> run-as-root
[02:40] <taychouri-a> ahh ok
[02:40] <taychouri-a> lol
[02:40] <Ng> taychouri-a: it runs the command with root user privileges
[02:40] <taychouri-a> I always wondered.
[02:40] <lupine_85> afaict it's like su -c but asks for your password rather than the root password
[02:41] <Linuturk_code> comes from the phrase sudoname, is my guess
[02:42] <patientfox> is anyone here using edgy eft knot 1 or whatever? is it relatively safe to use?
[02:42] <Linuturk_code> when you take someone elses credintals
[02:42] <patientfox> i mostly want gtk+ 2.10... i dont know if they justifies the upgrade...
[02:42] <patientfox> im not familiar with how to upgrade from versionX->versionY in ubuntu
[02:43] <rixth> !upgrade > patientfox
[02:43] <patientfox> thank you
[02:43] <Nameeater> might want to ask the stableness questien in #ubuntu+1  as thats dedicated to the next release of ubuntu
[02:43] <Linuturk_code> Edgy is not stable, it is for development only.  Do not use this on production machine
[02:44] <Linuturk_code> so says their topic
[02:45] <taychouri-a> Ng: Where are these servers located, its downloaded 38kbps..... I usually get 600kkbps
[02:45] <Ng> taychouri-a: that depends which mirrors you're using, if any
[02:45] <taychouri-a> Ng: k
[02:46] <laurens_s> taychouri-a, currently, the servers are experiencing a heavy load, because of the recent mishap with the broken xorg package
[02:47] <taychouri-a> laurens_s: Oh ok. Thanks for the info!
[02:47] <laurens_s> taychouri-a, a lot of traffic is being rerouted to just 1 server, to be sure that no-one gets the broken xorg file, and that 1 server is therefor, heavly-loaded :)
[02:48] <patientfox> !help
[02:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:48] <taychouri-a> k
[02:49] <alexdbkim> Anyone familiar with Mono on Ubuntu?
[02:50] <milkyway> can anyone confirm that apache2 2.0.55-4ubuntu2.1 is the latest (stable) package for server use ?
[02:52] <laurens_s> milkyway, according to http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all&keywords=apache2&sourceid=mozilla-search it si
[02:52] <laurens_s> is, even.
[02:52] <milkyway> laurens_s, thanks !
[02:52] <milkyway> i'am still getting segmentation faults though
[02:52] <laurens_s> milkyway, have you checked for faulty memory?
[02:53] <milkyway> lauerens_s, nopes. could do that. However i think faulty memory is not the case
[02:54] <taychouri-a> WOw, i am missin so many packages. Thanks the Terminal tells me what i am missing !
[02:54] <taychouri-a> lol
[02:55] <piratepenguin> What ye need is a dapper-testing repository - any chance of that ever happening?
[02:55] <laurens_s> piratepenguin, it's called edgy :)
[02:55] <madgoat> So this is the ubuntu help channel?
[02:56] <laurens_s> madgoat, yes
[02:56] <madgoat> cool
[02:56] <madgoat> I need help
[02:56] <madgoat> i've got a old dell laptop, see
[02:56] <madgoat> and I would like to install Ubuntu, but It doesn't have a CDROM
[02:57] <laurens_s> madgoat, how old is old?
[02:57] <laurens_s> !installation
[02:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:57] <madgoat> righto
[02:58] <piratepenguin> laurens_s: well dapper-testing would be for packages that will (soon) become part of dapper, so we don't get mess-ups like the recent xorg xserver one
[02:58] <madgoat> i'll check that out, but this i unique
[02:58] <Elda> bbl all
[02:58] <madgoat> laurens-s