[07:22] <DebianServerUser> thats correct
[07:22] <^V^> allan__: what system specs?
[07:22] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis I need permissiosn to delete test.txt though
[07:23] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  sounds like a permission issue on the Public dir to me.. but could be some other little issue
[07:23] <allan__> 512mb ram.. 1.5 ghz intel celeron M
[07:23] <^V^> I think that  should be fine
[07:23] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  so from windows.. you can access the Linux Public share.. and  Make a file - but not delete it?
[07:23] <allan__> you think my hardware is enough?
[07:23] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis I need permissions to delete text.txt on windows box too
[07:24] <michele> help guys!!! if im connected to te net and konversation works but not konqueror what do i need to configure
[07:24] <^V^> allan__: how long does it take to hang usually?
[07:24] <allan__> before, it was hanging every after about 30 mins
[07:24] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis, negative, I can create files w/o permissions on public ON THE UBUNTU SERVER VIA CLI but can't delete it without sudo
[07:24] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis all I can do on the windows box is read...no write what soever
[07:25] <allan__> when I turned of amarok's OSD, it hanged after about an hour. maybe because I opened adept
[07:25] <^V^> allan__: what graphics card?
[07:25] <allan__> it's a generic intel graphics card
[07:25] <^V^> are you running 3d desktop?
[07:26] <allan__> no
[07:26] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  good luck. its bed time for me..
[07:26] <michele> help guys!!! if im connected to the net and konversation works but not konqueror what do i need to configure
[07:26] <DebianServerUser> dr_willis thank you so muc hfor you help drj
[07:26] <dr_willis> DebianServerUser,  you may want to check out that 'fusesmb' stuff also. :) its handy
[07:26] <^V^> allan__: how do you know the system hangs?
[07:26] <DebianServerUser> thanks alot!!! imma go read that
[07:27] <arun> dr_willis: is vmware server fast? what is the lag time like? can i run any windows application?
[07:27] <allan__> I can't move the mouse pointer
[07:27] <^V^> allan__: keyboard work?
[07:27] <^V^> applications/music continues to play?
[07:28] <allan__> they stop
[07:28] <allan__> keyboard shortcuts dont work
[07:28] <allan__> sometimes, things work after a wait.. but it takes more than 5 mins for things to be in normal condition again
[07:29] <^V^> so any animations and music stops?
[07:29] <allan__> the screen freezes
[07:29] <arun> dr_willis: also, is it easy to set up windows using vmware? can i share files between windows (vmware) and linux? if i am already running a dual boot, can i run my existing windows installation through vmware?
[07:29] <^V^> allan__: so it can resume working after a while? always the case?
[07:29] <allan__> it's always the case
[07:29] <michele> Kubuntu help guys!!! if im connected to the net and konversation works but not konqueror what do i need to configure
[07:30] <^V^> I mean, can it always resume after a while?
[07:30] <allan__> but most of the time, I don't wait.. I just force power off
[07:30] <^V^> okay
[07:30] <^V^> doesn't sound like a complete 'hang' then
[07:30] <allan__> yeah.. maybe, it's more of a 'lag'
[07:30] <^V^> do you notice if you have any harddisk activity?
[07:30] <Armadillio> hey guys how can i make my clock in the corner say something like "2:20 PM" because I'm not liking the military time and want the other kind of time to show up
[07:30] <^V^> during the hang?
[07:30] <allan__> none
[07:31] <^V^> Armadillio: right-click and adjust date time format
[07:31] <^V^> on clock that is
[07:32] <michele> Kubuntu help guys!!! if im connected to the net and konversation works but not konqueror what do i need to configure
[07:32] <allan__> is there a way for me to make kde faster without using pure KDE?
[07:32] <^V^> allan__: I don't think that is necessarily a speed problem
[07:32] <^V^> It certainly shouldn't hang like that, but feel sluggish the whole time
[07:33] <allan__> so what can I do to avoid the lag?
[07:33] <^V^> allan__: I don't think its necessarily lag either
[07:33] <allan__> ohh.. so what could it be?
[07:33] <^V^> When it hangs,, does your CPU activity light show anything?
[07:33] <allan__> is it a ram issue?
[07:33] <allan__> I'm using a laptop
[07:34] <^V^> No activity light?
[07:34] <allan__> I don't notice the cpu light
[07:34] <^V^> Are you running it from battery?
[07:34] <allan__> is that light you are referring to, the blinking LED?
[07:35] <allan__> I am using a battery but my laptop is plugged
[07:35] <^V^> possibly, there might be one for harddisk and one for cpu
[07:35] <allan__> right now, only one LED is lit
[07:36] <allan__> the symbol of the LED is a cylinder but I do not know what it means
[07:36] <^V^> allan__: type `cat /proc/cpuinfo`
[07:36] <ubunturos> allan__: that probably is that of your hdd
[07:36] <^V^> allan__: that means harddisk
[07:36] <^V^> what does it say for cpu speed?
[07:37] <allan__> cpu MHz         : 1492.775
[07:37] <sumigamer> guys amarok cant play an Mp3....it says no Mp3 support is present, and then it hangs. whats the deal???
[07:37] <allan__> model name      : Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor         1.50GHz
[07:37] <purpleposeidon> !mp3
[07:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:37] <^V^> okay
[07:37] <michele> sumigamer, you need to use adept manager to download the mp3 codecs for amarok
[07:38] <purpleposeidon> ATFB!
[07:39] <sumigamer> michele, how do I find the codecs in adept??
[07:39] <sumigamer> but firsts, amarok is still freezed, how do i quit it??
[07:40] <michele> when that error appears I think it tells you the name. if you download vlc player it seems to bring down heaps of codecs that amarok can use
[07:40] <sumigamer> yeah but how do I quit this amarok?
[07:40] <michele> when it freezes just wait a while and you should get the option to terminate it
[07:41] <sumigamer> i didnt get any option
[07:41] <allan__> what is vanilla kde?  is it a fast kde?
[07:41] <^V^> sumigamer: did you click on the cross to close?
[07:41] <michele> it takes a couple of minutes for an option box to appear
[07:42] <sumigamer> the whole window has greyed out. i clicked on the cross and even from the tray but nothing happened
[07:42] <^V^> allan__: I seriously don't think it is a KDE issue
[07:42] <^V^> sumigamer: `killall amarok`
[07:42] <michele> unplug the pc !
[07:42] <^V^> allan__: you can try install xubuntu-desktop and see if it doesn't hang there
[07:43] <allan__> Actually, xubuntu works well for me
[07:43] <^V^> It should be faster than kde
[07:43] <^V^> but I think it could be some hardware/driver issue
[07:43] <allan__> I just prefer KDE that's why I am looking for ways to making kde faster
[07:43] <^V^> allan__: is KDE reasonably responsive during normal use?
[07:44] <aly> I need some help
[07:44] <allan__> it is
[07:44] <^V^> so it doesn't look like a speed issue then
[07:44] <allan__> right now, it's reasonably fast
[07:44] <allan__> what can I do, then?
[07:44] <^V^> What do you do right before it crashes?
[07:44] <aly> tools/convconf.c:99: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function strchr
[07:45] <aly> i am just trying to compile a psybnc
[07:45] <^V^> aly: do you get any compiler errors?
[07:45] <morph_> hailz
[07:46] <aly> dont think so
[07:46] <morph_> anyone get the iPhone here :)
[07:46] <^V^> aly: so what is the problem then?
[07:46] <allan__> last time, my laptop was freezing whenever amarok's osd comes out
[07:46] <^V^> allan__: so even 5 minutes after you start the system and load amarok?
[07:46] <aly> it wont compile
[07:46] <aly> you want me to paste you the whole thing?
[07:46] <^V^> aly: pastebin please
[07:47] <morph_> just installed 7.10 tribe 2
[07:47] <morph_> running good
[07:47] <aly> done
[07:47] <allan__> at first, whenever the OSD comes out, there is no problem, but after about 30 mins, then when the osd pops, my laptop freezes
[07:47] <^V^> allan__: BTW, what version of kubuntu do you use?
[07:47] <morph_> wonder if i should mess with beryl
[07:48] <allan__> feisty
[07:48] <^V^> allan__: did you upgrade?
[07:48] <aly> ^V^: pasted it
[07:48] <michele> sorry guys ... kubuntu help!! easy one, konversation works but not konqeror, is there somewhere I should configure it
[07:48] <allan__> nope.. it's a clean feisty install
[07:48] <^V^> aly: url?
[07:48] <allan__> I reformatted for feisty
[07:48] <^V^> allan__: I was wondering if edgy worked okay for you?
[07:48] <aly> ^V^: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27912/
[07:49] <allan__> it was okay
[07:50] <morph_> is there a good mac style dock for kubuntu?
[07:50] <fildo> !ntp
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <^V^> allan__: before a crash, do you puyt a lot of strain on the system or is it mostly idle?
[07:50] <fildo> !time
[07:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:50] <morph_> i tried kiba dock but it was laggy
[07:51] <allan__> It freezes whenever I open something new like whenever I install an app
[07:51] <aly> ^V^: Did you get the link ?
[07:51] <allan__> not when its idle
[07:51] <^V^> aly: have you compiled any C code before?
[07:51] <aly> ^V^: Not really i am just trying to follow the README file
[07:52] <^V^> aly: can you type `gcc --version` in the shell?
[07:52] <aly> you want me to paste the reply in pastebin ^V^?
[07:52] <^V^> does it say a version?
[07:53] <aly> ^V^: gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu4)
[07:54] <^V^> aly: have you tried to read http://linuxreviews.org/software/irc/bnc/ ?
[07:54] <aly> thats exactly what im following
[07:54] <aly> make menuconfig is what i typed
[07:54] <^V^> aly: did you install ncurses?
[07:54] <aly> ncurses
[07:55] <aly> whats that ?
[07:55] <^V^> allan__: so if you let the PC just sit there idling, will it hang?
[07:55] <aly> where do i get that from
[07:55] <allan__> it will not
[07:56] <^V^> aly: try `sudo apt-get install ncurses`
[07:56] <^V^> allan__: if you open all those apps and not use the PC for a while, will it hang?
[07:56] <allan__> it wont
[07:57] <allan__> only if I do so many activities
[07:57] <aly> Package ncurses is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:57] <allan__> I think, I need lighter software to run on this laptop
[07:57] <^V^> allan__: I told you, KDE shouldn't cause it to hang at all
[07:58] <^V^> aly: can you look in adept for ncurses?
[07:58] <aly> i can try
[07:58] <allan__> what can I do to avoid the freezing, ^V^
[07:59] <^V^> allan__: that's what I'm trying to figure out :)
[07:59] <seven>  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? how do i fix this again
[08:00] <^V^> allan__: try to reboot and change your boot options to include "noacpi acpi=off noapic nolapic" at the end (without quotes)
[08:01] <allan__> ^V^, in my laptop, the usb does not work without me using irqpoll as a boot option.. could it be a factor?
[08:01] <^V^> allan__: possibly
[08:01] <^V^> did you have to do that in edgy also?
[08:01] <allan__> yes
[08:01] <seven>  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? how do i fix this again
[08:02] <allan__> in all distros that I have tried, I needed irqpoll
[08:02] <^V^> allan__: can you try those options?
[08:02] <^V^> aly: try to install ncurses-bin
[08:03] <allan__> okay.. I just edited my menu.lst.. I'm rebooting now
[08:03] <allan__> I'm just curious, what do those boot options do?
[08:03] <^V^> allan__: you could havbe made it temporary in the boot at startup
[08:04] <^V^> in the grub menu
[08:04] <^V^> what usb devices?
[08:04] <allan__> I know... it's just easier for me to edit menu.lst because its just copy paste
[08:05] <allan__> my laptop does not detect any usb device without irqpoll
[08:05] <^V^> what devices you use though?
[08:05] <allan__> scanner, flash drive, printer, usb mouse
[08:06] <allan__> right now, no usb device is plugged so the usb devices are not the reason for the freeze
[08:06] <^V^> not even mouse?
[08:06] <aly> ^V^: For somereason it was the c++ compiler  reinstalled it and the bnc worked like a charm thanks alot !
[08:07] <sumigamer> whenever I try to ./configure something, it says C compiler cant create executables. how do i correct this??
[08:07] <^V^> aly: what do you mean exactly?
[08:07] <aly> the c++ compiler was messed up i think  downloaded the newer version of it and make menuconfig worked.
[08:08] <sumigamer> whenever I try to ./configure something, it says C compiler cant create executables. how do i correct this??
[08:08] <^V^> aly: what do you mean you downloaded a new version? from the repositories?
[08:08] <aly> aly@AMistry:~/psybnc$ sudo apt-get install g++-3.4
[08:08] <aly> g++ i guess
[08:08] <^V^> aly: that is an older version actually
[08:08] <aly> is it
[08:09] <evsophomore2009> anyone good with Firefox?
[08:09] <aly> well it worked heh
[08:09] <sumigamer> whenever I try to ./configure something, it says C compiler cant create executables. how do i correct this??
[08:09] <^V^> try `sudo apt-get install build-essential`
[08:09] <^V^> sumigamer: no need to keep asking, someone might know and let you know the answer
[08:10] <^V^> sumigamer: you m ight also want to try install build-essential
[08:10] <aly> how do i view the background services running i forgot the command for it
[08:10] <^V^> ps?
[08:11] <aly> thats it !
[08:11] <^V^> !ps
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <aly> thanks ^V^
[08:11] <evsophomore2009> Firefox Problems...Can anyone Help?
[08:12] <sonoftheclayr> evsophomore2009: what are the problems?
[08:12] <^V^> evsophomore2009: it would help if you stated what they are...we are not mind readers
[08:12] <evsophomore2009> sorry hehe
[08:12] <evsophomore2009> anyways, when i go to a website other than google it shutsdown automatically
[08:12] <evsophomore2009> i get this message when i open it using the Terminal
[08:12] <^V^> evsophomore2009: any website or one in particular?
[08:13] <evsophomore2009> The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
[08:13] <evsophomore2009> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[08:13] <evsophomore2009> The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
[08:13] <evsophomore2009>   (Details: serial 120 error_code 8 request_code 144 minor_code 3)
[08:13] <sonoftheclayr> evsophomore2009: have you tried it in safe mode yet?
[08:13] <evsophomore2009>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[08:13] <evsophomore2009>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[08:13] <evsophomore2009>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[08:13] <evsophomore2009>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[08:13] <evsophomore2009>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[08:13] <evsophomore2009> i know Pastebin
[08:13] <evsophomore2009> no how do i run it in safemode?
[08:13] <^V^> evsophomore2009: pastebin please!!!
[08:14] <sonoftheclayr> evsophomore2009: use firefox -safe-mode
[08:14] <sumigamer> i have downloaded that 9MB firefox archive from the official website and unpacked it, but what next??
[08:14] <evsophomore2009> Still closes
[08:15] <sonoftheclayr> evsophomore2009: alright, we could assume that it is not an extentsion causing the problems
[08:15] <sonoftheclayr> evsophomore2009: is it the version in the repos?
[08:15] <evsophomore2009> So could you kinda sorta maybe help me out? I looove firefox, but unfortunally it closes way to much to use
[08:15] <^V^> sumigamer: you don't need to download firefox like that, check adept and search for firefox
[08:15] <^V^> evsophomore2009: what extensions have you got installed?
[08:16] <evsophomore2009> How do i check the extensions that i have installed
[08:16] <^V^> tools->addons
[08:17] <sumigamer> ^V^, will I get the latest firefox if I search adept?/
[08:17] <^V^> sumigamer: you will get the latest ubuntu packaged version
[08:17] <evsophomore2009> there isnt any Extensions
[08:18] <arun> how do i open files from my ubuntu in windows/vmware? if i create a file using windows/vmware, where can i save it?
[08:18] <sumigamer> when i searched for thunderbird, i got the 1.5 version. People tell me that you should compile from source to get the latest version.
[08:18] <arun> if i am online on linux, will i be online using windows/vmware as well?
[08:19] <^V^> sumigamer: don't bother unless you *really* need the latest
[08:19] <sumigamer> some extensions work only on the latest...
[08:19] <evsophomore2009> ^V^: I dont have any Extions installed
[08:20] <^V^> evsophomore2009: so you open google and it doesn't crash?
[08:20] <evsophomore2009> nope
[08:20] <^V^> what about ubuntu.com?
[08:21] <evsophomore2009> Nope that works
[08:21] <^V^> okay
[08:21] <sumigamer> adept doesnt tell me which version I am installing....
[08:21] <^V^> so its not just any page that causes a crash
[08:22] <^V^> sumigamer: it should if you expand the program name
[08:22] <evsophomore2009> no mainly a page with Flash//Video//Media
[08:22] <sumigamer> ^V^, it doesnt
[08:22] <^V^> evsophomore2009: in firefox go to about:plugins
[08:22] <evsophomore2009> kay done
[08:23] <^V^> evsophomore2009: pastebin the file?
[08:24] <arun> anyone here use vmware?
[08:24] <intelikey> my bash is broke.
[08:24] <^V^> sumigamer: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion, it might help
[08:24] <intelikey> my bash hurts !
[08:24] <neonlinux> intelikey: u bashed it too hard??
[08:25] <intelikey> neonlinux i guess so....   copy and paste into a console breaks lines in funny way and doesn't accept the whole paste
[08:25] <^V^> evsophomore2009: I have to go, but try uninstall flash plugins and any others and see if firefox still crashes
[08:25] <evsophomore2009> okay
[08:25] <evsophomore2009> thanks for your time
[08:26] <neonlinux> is this plain text... try from a kwrite
[08:26] <michele> Kubuntu heeeelp !  New Kubuntu, dialup works, Konversation works, Konqueror  "Could not connect to host" heeelp !!
[08:26] <sumigamer> when i try to configure superkaramba, it says that it cant find X includes, and to check the installation and the correct paths
[08:26] <fdoving> sumigamer: you need the pakcage 'xorg-dev'
[08:27] <evsophomore2009> Can Anyone Help Me Out With My Firefox Problem'
[08:27] <intelikey> i should be able to; cat file   copy and paste the content into a console  but this file breaks it...  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37809
[08:27] <arun> evsophomore2009: what's the problem
[08:28] <aly> where do i get the osx theme "engage" from ubuntu from?
[08:29] <neonlinux> intelikey: is that what your pasting into ur console?
[08:29] <michele> rossco, do you know how to setup konqueror, im stuck
[08:29] <evsophomore2009> arun: when i open any website with Media//Flash//VIdoes ect... it closes and gives me this error
[08:30] <evsophomore2009> I KNOW PASTEBIN DOSENT WORK!
[08:30] <evsophomore2009> The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
[08:30] <evsophomore2009> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[08:30] <evsophomore2009> The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
[08:30] <evsophomore2009>   (Details: serial 120 error_code 8 request_code 144 minor_code 3)
[08:30] <evsophomore2009>   (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
[08:30] <evsophomore2009>    that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
[08:30] <evsophomore2009>    To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
[08:30] <evsophomore2009>    option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
[08:30] <evsophomore2009>    backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
[08:31] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: run firefox from terminal... that may give more info when running
[08:31] <Daisuke_Ido> !paste | evsophomore2009
[08:31] <ubotu> evsophomore2009: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:32] <evsophomore2009> i knoooow
[08:32] <evsophomore2009> it dosent work Daisuke_ldo
[08:32] <michele> Kubuntu heeeelp !  New Kubuntu, dialup works, Konversation works, Konqueror  "Could not connect to host" heeelp !!
[08:32] <evsophomore2009> umm yeah so thats what i get when i open it with the terminal
[08:32] <crdlb> evsophomore2009, yes it does
[08:32] <Daisuke_Ido> it works just fine
[08:32] <Daisuke_Ido> and it not working is NOT an excuse for flooding the channel
[08:32] <evsophomore2009> not on my computer because im having problems if anyone wouild read
[08:33] <evsophomore2009> Daisuke_ldo: okay w/e dont get an attitude with me
[08:33] <crdlb> evsophomore2009, try a different browser
[08:33] <Daisuke_Ido> use konqueror then.
[08:33] <crdlb> but don't ever paste in the channel
[08:33] <evsophomore2009> okay w/e not my problem
[08:33] <Daisuke_Ido> yes, yes it IS your problem, you're the one that did it.
[08:34] <michele> calm down boys, we're on the same side
[08:34] <Daisuke_Ido> but moving on...
[08:34] <evsophomore2009> Neonlinux: thats the error i get when i open it from the terminal
[08:35] <janhans> Zkoum,co to dl,tak sory
[08:35] <Guilty_as_Sin> is #ubuntu-effects gone?
[08:35] <Guilty_as_Sin> nm
[08:35] <Guilty_as_Sin> (typo in channel list I guess)
[08:35] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ati graphics card?
[08:35] <janhans> I not englich
[08:36] <evsophomore2009> neonlinux: so my graphics card could be the problem why firefox closes for no reason?
[08:36] <neonlinux> some posts online are saying thay you may need to disable the compisite extension in your xorg.conf...
[08:37] <evsophomore2009> oooh...Yeah about that, a long time ago before firefox, someone told me to do that and i had to get a new computer
[08:37] <evsophomore2009> I completely screwed it over
[08:37] <evsophomore2009> So i really dont wanna screw with xorg.config
[08:38] <neonlinux> there is a way to do it without screwing it over
[08:40] <evsophomore2009> Neonlinux: well if you know exactly what your doing (Not saying your dumb) but i think you get me where im kinda scared
[08:41] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: lol.. i never used to know what i was doing.. i just had a hack at it.. if it broke.. i re-installed and remembered not to do it again.. just the way i learnt stuff.. anyway.. i have to do this in my xorg file and it works..
[08:41] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: easiest way is to first back up ur config file
[08:42] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: so for example "cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/ur-user"
[08:43] <evsophomore2009> wow confusing
[08:43] <neonlinux> that way if it doesnt work.. all you have to do to make it right again is "sudo cp /home/ur-user/xorg.conf /etc/X11/"
[08:43] <neonlinux> all thats doing is copying the file
[08:44] <neonlinux> basically.. breaking down the command its copy /the/file/ur/copying.conf /to/where/u/want/it/copied/to
[08:44] <evsophomore2009> it didnt work
[08:44] <neonlinux> what error?
[08:45] <evsophomore2009> No such file or directory
[08:45] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: what exactly did u type?
[08:45] <evsophomore2009> sudo cp /home/ur-user/xorg.conf /etc/X11/
[08:46] <neonlinux> first u want to make a back up.. sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/ur-username/
[08:47] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: are u using the firefox from the repos?
[08:47] <evsophomore2009> what? im lost...firefox from the repos/>
[08:47] <evsophomore2009> *repos?
[08:47] <Linux_Galore> Just installed the second release of Gutsy....... dude serious speed improvements over Feisty
[08:47] <neonlinux> how did u install firefox?
[08:47] <arun> evsophomore2009: from where did you install firefox
[08:48] <arun> anyone here use vmware?
[08:48] <neonlinux> arun: havent in a while
[08:48] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: how much faster?
[08:49] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: what kernel version?
[08:49] <arun> neonlinux: would you mind answering some of my questions regd. vmware server?
[08:50] <neonlinux> arun: it was ages ago.. but ill see what i can do
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: well ktorrent now hits 500K when the best before was 120k, large file transfers are up around 36MB/s were before I was hard up getting 9MB/s
[08:50] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: 2.6.22
[08:51] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: what network card do u ahve?
[08:51] <evsophomore2009> Arun: umm apt-get
[08:51] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: rtl8139
[08:51] <arun> neonlinux: how do i open files from my ubuntu in windows/vmware? if i create a file using windows/vmware, where can i save it?
[08:51] <arun> neonlinux: if i am online on linux, will i be online using windows/vmware as well?
[08:51] <michele> Kubuntu heeeelp !  New Kubuntu, dialup works, Konversation works, Konqueror  "Could not connect to host" heeelp !!
[08:52] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: so u used apt-get to install firefox?
[08:52] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: the transfers are disk transfers from my internal to an external usb2 backup unit
[08:52] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: ok.. i have 8169.. has issues. .waiting for proper driver support
[08:52] <evsophomore2009> yes i did
[08:53] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: still stuffs up my resolution though and I have to run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver thing
[08:53] <arun> how do i get kubuntu to not smooth console-type fonts
[08:53] <neonlinux> arun: the online part.. u should be... it should see the nic as connected.. as for transfering files... make a network share using samba and then in the virtual machine save it to the share
[08:53] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok... flash plugins installed?
[08:54] <arun> neonlinux: how do i make a network share using samba?
[08:54] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: ok... driver support?
[08:54] <evsophomore2009> neonlinux: how do i find out? on firefox on the URL bar i type in About:plugins and every single plugin is installed
[08:54] <neonlinux> arun: in konqueror u should be able to right click on a directory and enable sharing
[08:55] <arun> neonlinux: alright, so how do i navigate to that directory from windows/vmware?
[08:55] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. sounds like plugins are installed... im searching around atm.. so far it seems that u need to add the line to xorg.conf
[08:55] <abonnema> Hi all
[08:55] <neonlinux> arun: brows the network
[08:56] <neonlinux> arun: look for your linux box
[08:56] <evsophomore2009> neonlinux: okay whenever you find out and are ready to help me with that process just let me know :0
[08:56] <evsophomore2009> * :)
[08:56] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok :)
[08:57] <arun> neonlinux: alright, thanks :) what is the lag like in vmware? is it considerably slower than running windows independently/
[08:57] <arun> neonlinux: will i be able to run apps like photoshop at good speeds?
[08:59] <neonlinux> arun: i used it ages ago (back in the days when an athlon 750 and 256 mb of ram was the bomb.. it was sluggish... these days i would imagine that its alot better.. .there is also another vm app called parallels.. that works pretty nicely
[08:59] <hero> what version of ubuntu is feisty?
[08:59] <evsophomore2009> 7.06 i believe
[08:59] <abonnema> 7.04
[08:59] <niranj> 704
[08:59] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7760.html sound similar?
[09:00] <evsophomore2009> 7.04 thats it
[09:00] <hero> thank you
[09:00] <abonnema> why?
[09:01] <evsophomore2009> Yep sure does
[09:01] <evsophomore2009> So is it the xorg-config?
[09:02] <michele> cud someone please answer a simple question about konqueror.....
[09:02] <evsophomore2009> Michele: maybe i can help
[09:03] <arun> neonlinux: isn't parallels only for os x?
[09:03] <michele> thanks, konversation works, but konqueror can't find servers
[09:03] <neonlinux> arun: there is a version for linux... im holding out for parallels 3 for linux.. im hoping for directx support
[09:04] <abonnema> Michele: you are in arn't you?
[09:04] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: sounds like it
[09:04] <evsophomore2009> Okay well show me what to do. :)
[09:04] <michele> in sydney
[09:04] <evsophomore2009> Please
[09:04] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: yeah, driver support is fine
[09:05] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: all my plugin stuff works
[09:05] <arun> neonlinux: costs $50
[09:05] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: to be honest Im finding the experience with Gutsy better than Feisty/Edgy
[09:05] <abonnema> Michele: no i meant: what do you mean, can't find servers: you are in, aren't you?
[09:05] <michele> whats ar'nt
[09:05] <arun> neonlinux: also, will i be able to use external hard drives that work only with windows?
[09:06] <neonlinux> arun: the only sucky part.. it costs... but ill be able to finally nuke my windows partition and run directx games in linux :)
[09:06] <abonnema> Michele: a typo: aren't or are not
[09:06] <michele> oh ok, i get "Could not connect to host"
[09:06] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: uve almost convinded me to install it :)
[09:06] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok... whats ur user name on ur system?
[09:06] <abonnema> michele: are you working from a different machine now?
[09:07] <evsophomore2009> mike
[09:07] <tenerifedave> hello all i have a problem using darkice, anyone use darkice here or know about it?
[09:07] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: the extra speed is whats amazing me, almost like they fixed a serious IO bug thats been hanging around
[09:07] <abonnema> michele: is your internet connection working with your browser?
[09:07] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok... type the following "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /home/mike/
[09:07] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: yay :)
[09:07] <evsophomore2009> kay umm i think it worked
[09:08] <Linux_Galore> neonlinux: addint java/flash/codecs was a total no brainer
[09:08] <Linux_Galore> adding*
[09:08] <michele> i've got a new kubuntu install with dial up. kppp worked fine, konvesation works. konqeror can't find the internet port i think ?
[09:08] <arun> neonlinux: also, will i be able to use external hard drives that work only with windows? also, say i'm running photoshop, will the temp files be stored in the vmware directory or in swap?
[09:08] <evsophomore2009> it kinda just asked for my password, and a new line opend...like it was ready for a new command
[09:08] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: check by going to your home folder and making sure the file is there
[09:09] <Linux_Galore> just have to figure ut how I get the channels to view as tabs in Konversation
[09:09] <Linux_Galore> out*
[09:09] <abonnema> Michele: It sounds like your internet connection is not working: are you working from your new installation now?
[09:09] <neonlinux> arun: i think they would be able to be used.. and im not sure about photoshop
[09:09] <evsophomore2009> xorg-config is there, so yep it worked
[09:09] <michele> im using the machine where konversation works, but not konqueror
[09:09] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: xorg-config or xorg.conf?
[09:10] <evsophomore2009> xorg.conig
[09:10] <michele> yes, the new installation
[09:10] <^V^> michele: does firefox work?
[09:10] <arun> neonlinux: thank you so much for all your help
[09:10] <abonnema> Michele: if Konversation works and Konqueror does not work, than internet works, but your installation can not find the DSN.
[09:11] <neonlinux> arun: sorry i cant be more helpful.. it has been ages
[09:11] <abonnema> Michele: look into your internet config and find out whether you filled in the name server.
[09:11] <michele> im just downloading firefox with adept manager, then will try it
[09:11] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:11] <arun> neonlinux: no, it's alright.. vmware server is almost downloaded, will install it now
[09:11] <michele> where do i find that
[09:11] <abonnema> Michele: If Konqueror does not work, neither will firefox.
[09:11] <neonlinux> arun: cool.... Linux_Galore: gonna start downloading gutsy
[09:12] <evsophomore2009> G Get Help            ^O WriteOut            ^R Read File           ^Y Prev Page           ^K Cut Text            ^C Cur Pos
[09:12] <evsophomore2009> ^X Exit                ^J Justify             ^W Where Is            ^V Next Page           ^U UnCut Text          ^T To Spell
[09:12] <arun> what animal is gutsy
[09:12] <abonnema> Michele: however, if you are using adept_manager successfully, I don't know what the problem is.
[09:12] <evsophomore2009> Thats what i got
[09:12] <^V^> gibbon
[09:12] <arun> ah
[09:12] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: there should be text in the file
[09:12] <arun> is that some sort of primate?
[09:12] <tenerifedave> hello all i have a problem using darkice, anyone use darkice here or know about it?
[09:12] <^V^> I believe so
[09:13] <^V^> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbon
[09:13] <evsophomore2009> umm theres alot of text
[09:13] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. press ctrl+x
[09:13] <evsophomore2009> kay done
[09:13] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. you should now be back at the command line
[09:13] <michele> i looked all through the konqeror configuration but cudn't find anything. maybe konqueror can't work with dial up?
[09:13] <evsophomore2009> yep i am
[09:14] <hero> michele: why wouldn't it?
[09:14] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. thats the text editor called nano.. ctrl+x allows you to exit the program.. when you make changes to the file it will ask if you want to save before exiting... thats just extra info so you know whats going on.. ok..
[09:15] <evsophomore2009> Kay
[09:15] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: type sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:15] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: and once in there go right to the bottom of the page by pressing page down
[09:15] <michele> hero, thats a very good question
[09:15] <downstairs>  /join #cyprus
[09:15] <hero> i figure if you have a ppp link up, it should work
[09:15] <evsophomore2009> Command not found
[09:16] <hero> but it does sound puzzling
[09:16] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: opps.. i meant sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:16] <abonnema> Michele: did you try entering a direct ip-address? I suspect you have not configured a name server for your ISP connection
[09:16] <michele> do yo mean a direct ip address for my isp?
[09:16] <^V^> michele: try go to <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:17] <hero> for anything
[09:17] <evsophomore2009> Okay im confused
[09:17] <^V^> that's google.com
[09:17] <evsophomore2009> im back at the same screen i was at before you told me CTRL+X
[09:17] <abonnema> Michele: try entering: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ into konqueror (thats the IP address for www.redhat.com
[09:17] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: yep... now go right down to the bottom of the file by pressing page down key
[09:17] <evsophomore2009> kay im at the bottem
[09:18] <evsophomore2009> it says End Section
[09:18] <michele> ok, where do i find the place to enter it ?
[09:18] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. now the next stuff you need to type is case sensitive
[09:18] <^V^> wherever you enter the website address
[09:18] <evsophomore2009> okay
[09:18] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: press enter to go to a new line
[09:18] <abonnema> Michele: just click on the blue http-address that I entered, Konqueror should open automatically
[09:19] <evsophomore2009> neonlinux: wait, it wont let me go to a new line
[09:19] <evsophomore2009> it just goes down one line, but not a new command line thing
[09:19] <abonnema> Michele: if this works and entering www.redhat.com does not work, than its definitely the nameserver
[09:20] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: thats right... ur text cursor should be on a blank line
[09:20] <michele> i got Could not connect to host http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[09:20] <evsophomore2009> oh okay done
[09:21] <michele> where should i enter the name server
[09:21] <abonnema> MIchele: weird, I clicked on both www.redhat.com and http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ and both appeared as the same screen.
[09:21] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. so the last line of text should say EndSection.. then a blank line.. then the line your text cursor is on right?
[09:21] <michele> oh oh !
[09:21] <evsophomore2009> yep
[09:21] <abonnema> Michele: as your Konversation works, then at least a direct IP address in your browser should also work.
[09:22] <abonnema> Michele: What error message did you get?
[09:22] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. next thing i msg type exactly... for the spaces press the tab key
[09:22] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: Section "Extensions"
[09:23] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: case sensitive
[09:23] <evsophomore2009> wait, so type in Extensions or Section "Ectensions"
[09:23] <michele> guess what.... i downloaded firefox and it works
[09:23] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: dont write the case senstitve bit..
[09:23] <abonnema> Michele: Okee,
[09:24] <michele> ;-)  :-)
[09:24] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: exactly as i wrote it..... Section "Extensions"
[09:24] <evsophomore2009> than press TAB?
[09:25] <michele> maybe somewhere in the lower machinery of konqueror it can't find the net through kppp ?
[09:26] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: hang on a sec.. that one actually uses a space.. the tabs are for the next line... so it will be...... Section<SPACEBAR>"Extensions"
[09:26] <abonnema> Michele: if firefox works, just use it. I suspect that konqueror needs configuration
[09:26] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: after typing.... Section "Extensions" press enter to go to a new line
[09:26] <michele> ok i will, thanks !
[09:26] <evsophomore2009> kay done with that
[09:27] <abonnema> MIchele: okee, see ya
[09:27] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok.. on this new line the spaces are tabs.. type the following
[09:27] <michele> abonnema, btw, where r u ?
[09:27] <abonnema> Michele: the netherlands
[09:28] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009:        Option      "Composite"      "Disable"
[09:28] <michele> im sydney. cheers and thanks
[09:28] <abonnema> Michele: Must be late over there?
[09:28] <abonnema> Michele: is 9:30 in the morning here
[09:29] <michele> its 17:23, we're just having a beer
[09:29] <evsophomore2009> okay so on one line
[09:29] <michele> and a wine
[09:29] <abonnema> MIchele: well, enjoy, and see ya later.
[09:29] <evsophomore2009> Section "Extensions"
[09:29] <evsophomore2009>         Option      "Composite"      "Disable"
[09:29] <michele> cya
[09:29] <evsophomore2009> just like that in the term right?
[09:29] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: yep.. thats right.. now press enter to go to a new line
[09:30] <evsophomore2009> kay
[09:30] <evsophomore2009> done
[09:30] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: now this line uses the space bar for spaces
[09:30] <evsophomore2009> okay
[09:30] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: type the following
[09:30] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: EndSection
[09:30] <evsophomore2009> one word?
[09:31] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: just looked at the line in my config.. tehre is no spaces.. .my bad
[09:31] <neonlinux> yep.. one word
[09:31] <vbgunz> is there a way to seperate the applications that shipped with Kubuntu and those that I installed? I mean, it's been quite a while and I know here and there I've downloaded some cli apps I probably don't use much... is there a way to seperate everything that shipped with Kubuntu and everything I installed manually?
[09:31] <evsophomore2009> Wait...there are no spaces?
[09:31] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok... now after typing... EndSection press enter
[09:31] <vbgunz> I'd like to get into maintenance mode :)
[09:31] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: no saces
[09:31] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: no spaces
[09:32] <evsophomore2009> kay i typed EndSection
[09:32] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: ok... now after typing... EndSection press enter
[09:32] <neonlinux> for a new line
[09:32] <evsophomore2009> kay done
[09:33] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: cool.. now press ctrl+x
[09:33] <evsophomore2009> yes or no
[09:33] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: its asking if you want to save changes... yes
[09:33] <evsophomore2009> kay now what
[09:33] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: so it saved and your now at the command line?
[09:34] <evsophomore2009> no im still at the thiny]
[09:34] <evsophomore2009> *thingy
[09:35] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: u pressed ctrl+x.. then yes.. it will now be asking what you would like to call the file... press enter
[09:35] <killgore> Hi, there is a typo in the headline of the latest announcement on www.kubuntu.org
[09:36] <killgore> it  say "Tride 2 CD Released" should be "Tribe 2 CD Released" ?
[09:36] <evsophomore2009> Okay im back at the command line
[09:36] <neonlinux> killgore: you found a bug lol
[09:36] <killgore> I'm so cool
[09:37] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: just on a side note.. did you install the gfx drivers?
[09:37] <evsophomore2009> gfx Drivers??
[09:37] <neonlinux> for ur ati card?
[09:37] <evsophomore2009> never installed it
[09:37] <neonlinux> so ur running the default generic drivers?
[09:38] <evsophomore2009> Sure i guess
[09:38] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: u have an ati card right?
[09:38] <evsophomore2009> How do i find out?
[09:39] <agm_> i am having problems with atheros AR5006EG wifi adapter, cant get it working
[09:39] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: type nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:40] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: scroll down until you find a section called Section "Device"
[09:41] <evsophomore2009> okay i dont see gfx
[09:43] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: in Section "Device" it should either say nv (nvidia) or ati
[09:48] <neonlinux> evsophomore2009: i have to go... to return everything back to the way it was before the changes... exit by pressing ctrl+x and then typing.... sudo cp /home/mike/xorg.conf /etc/X11/
[09:51] <arun> neonlinux: vmware is working, installing windows
[09:51] <arun> thanks for all your help
[09:56] <to6eto> hi all
[09:59] <arun> hey to6eto
[10:04] <david__> Buff.
[10:06] <t_maus> is anybody of you a sysop
[10:06] <arun> how do i install smb server
[10:07] <t_maus> apt-get install samba
[10:07] <t_maus> apt-get install samba-common
[10:07] <arun> alright, thanks
[10:07] <t_maus> np
[10:08] <arun> how do i install software on my windows/vmware?
[10:08] <to6eto> wine
[10:08] <arun> can i install from a shared directory using samba
[10:08] <killgore> hobbsee: can you fix the typo "Tride"->"Tribe" on kubuntu.org or tell someone
[10:08] <to6eto> apt-get inatll wine
[10:08] <t_maus> you CAN use samba
[10:08] <arun> to6eto: i dont need wine, i'm running vmware
[10:08] <arun> t_maus: or else?
[10:08] <Hobbsee> killgore: oh dear.  yes.
[10:09] <to6eto> upd, sorry :)
[10:09] <t_maus> if you use vmware-workstation
[10:09] <killgore> Hobbsee: ;)
[10:09] <arun> t_maus: i'm using vmware-server
[10:09] <Hobbsee> killgore: as in, to getting someone else to fix it, i think
[10:09] <t_maus> oh usb stick ?
[10:10] <t_maus> or you can use virtualbox
[10:11] <t_maus> is the same like vmware but 1. ist open source und 2. it has the same level like vmware-workstation
[10:11] <arun> um.. i am running vmware-server.. how do i share folders between my linux and vmware/windows
[10:11] <emko> qucik question how  do i change my resolution to native resolution? i can only go up to 1024X768
[10:12] <t_maus> vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> They should put the new Crystal icon set in Gutsy, I mean its a seriously good update from the old set -> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=25668&forumpage=19
[10:13] <t_maus> @arun i ask google there is no option to share with out a stick with the vmware SERVER version
[10:13] <arun> yes
[10:13] <arun> thanks
[10:14] <t_maus> vmware workstation is able to share
[10:15] <Linux_Galore> nice picture of the cew crystal icon set -> http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=25668&file1=25668-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Crystal+Clear
[10:15] <Linux_Galore> new*
[10:19] <mikkael> is kdewallet only for local security ?
[10:21] <t_maus> yes it seams to be so
[10:21] <t_maus> i dont see there a global support fr security
[10:34] <TrueFX> where is the /etc/rc.d directory in kubuntu?
[10:47] <egolost> hmm.. all the keyboard layouts are missing from my keyboard layouts... anyone have a clue for a solution?
[10:48] <fede> Good morning everybody. i have a problem with kub feisty. Since a pair of days, everytime i connect a usb flash memory, it lets me just see the files, but not delete or add. I tried with sudo konqueror or sudo chmod but even with sudo, it tells me that i havent got enough permissions. what could i do?
[10:49] <icecruncher> ok, can anybody tell me how to change the adress the dhclient is asking to?
[10:50] <arun> awesome, now i can run photoshop from within kubuntu
[10:50] <arun> yay
[10:50] <icecruncher> when I run dhclient eth0, it is trying to get the dhcp from <IP_ADDRESS>, I'd like to change that to my router
[10:53] <mikkael> alt + f2 is supposed to starta launcher, right ?
[11:04] <arun> mikkael: yes
[11:10] <brun0___> hello
[11:10] <brun0___> I've a problem of my screen blinking from time to time
[11:11] <brun0___> on my laptop
[11:11] <brun0___> with a geforce8400
[11:11] <brun0___> and the latest nvidia drivers
[11:11] <_Shade_> hi there
[11:11] <brun0___> is it known ?
[11:12] <_Shade_> how can i select an object which is under another one?
[11:12] <_Shade_> oops i missed the channel sorry :)
[11:14] <Linux_Galore> egolost: keytouch
[11:16] <Linux_Galore> brun0___: ?? version of kubuntu
[11:16] <brun0___> Linux_Galore: feist
[11:16] <brun0___> feisty
[11:17] <Linux_Galore> brun0___: heard of people having issues with the 8600/8800  not suprised with the 8400 being a problem as its in the same chip familty
[11:17] <Linux_Galore> family*
[11:17] <brun0___> Linux_Galore: so basically i should wait for the next driver :) ?
[11:18] <Linux_Galore> brun0___: did you get the driver from nvidia ?
[11:19] <Linux_Galore> ie from their website
[11:20] <Cugel> Dudes, I have a question. I'm looking for a large pic of the Kubuntu logo. Haven't been able to find something suitable yet. Any ideas?
[11:20] <Linux_Galore> brun0___: is this with Beryl on ?
[11:21] <brun0___> Linux_Galore: no
[11:21] <brun0___> neither compiz ;)
[11:21] <Linux_Galore> aah yeah, they have a link on their wiki to some stuff
[11:21] <Cugel> Hmm http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Kubuntu_Logo.svg seems okay, but actually I'd like to replicate http://i10.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/84/fc/8cf3_1.JPG
[11:22] <Linux_Galore> Cugel: the ebay one would be easy to copy in Gimp
[11:22] <Cugel> True.
[11:23] <Linux_Galore> Cugel: always look on flickr
[11:23] <Linux_Galore> or google images
[11:23] <brun0___> Linux_Galore: it seems that it is each time the screen refreshes
[11:23] <neonlinux> Linux_Galore: almost got gutsy down :)
[11:23] <mikkael> how can i chenge k-menu's button on my panel ?
[11:23] <brun0___> Linux_Galore: not each time, but only when something changes on the screen
[11:23] <eagles0513875> cant wait till tomorrow
[11:23] <eagles0513875> and ill have it downloaded too
[11:24] <Cugel> http://www.brandsoftheworld.com/brands/0014/6935/Kubuntu.eps   -- that's what I was looking for.
[11:24] <Linux_Galore> brun0___: try running  sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg
[11:24] <r0cks0ul> can i make gxine and totem work at the same time? coz i was having problem with it
[11:24] <Linux_Galore> brun0___: thats how I got my Nvidia stuff working
[11:24] <kraut> moin
[11:25] <Linux_Galore> r0cks0ul: they both use the same engine
[11:25] <Linux_Galore> r0cks0ul: dare say its creating a conflict
[11:25] <r0cks0ul> but why cant i play videos on gxine?
[11:25] <brun0___> Linux_Galore: is it a problem to run this if I have used the nvidia installer (because it's not in the repositories)
[11:26] <r0cks0ul> before i was able to make them work at the same time
[11:26] <Linux_Galore> r0cks0ul: why would you use a Gnome app ?? kde has heaps of apps to play stuff ie kaffeine/kmplayer
[11:26] <r0cks0ul> i do have mplayer
[11:26] <r0cks0ul> it works great
[11:26] <r0cks0ul> but i want gxine too
[11:27] <Linux_Galore> r0cks0ul: might want to also look at vlc I use it for mp4 files
[11:27] <Linux_Galore> r0cks0ul: your problem is both programs are exactly the same video player just different skins
[11:27] <r0cks0ul> really?
[11:27] <Linux_Galore> yes
[11:27] <r0cks0ul> it was working before?!
[11:28] <eagles0513875> Linux_Galore: whats the advantage of mp4 files
[11:28] <Linux_Galore> r0cks0ul: pick one, they are both the same
[11:28] <Linux_Galore> eagles0513875: well they play on more portable devices for starters
[11:28] <r0cks0ul> trhe reason i like gxine is that when im on a cube(beryl) it occupies all the 4 workspaces
[11:28] <Linux_Galore> ie 5G ipod
[11:29] <eagles0513875> besides ipods
[11:29] <Linux_Galore> eagles0513875: iRiver media players etc use mp4 so do the sony stuff Ive used
[11:30] <Linux_Galore> eagles0513875: I have no preference for mp4 Im an xvid fan or even mkv
[11:30] <Linux_Galore> Im just saying I found vlc to play mp4 files better than most media apps
[11:30] <eagles0513875> thats rather interesting cuz i though only ipods used mp4a
[11:31] <brun0____> I tried to remove the DPMS option from monitor
[11:31] <Linux_Galore> eagles0513875: theres a kde app to convert xvid to mp4 for ipods
[11:31] <eagles0513875> what is xvid
[11:32] <Linux_Galore> eagles0513875: improved open source variant of divx
[11:33] <Linux_Galore> XviD is an open source MPEG-4 video codec. Originally based on OpenDivX, XviD was started by a group of volunteer programmers after the OpenDivX source was closed
[11:33] <bart_17> hello and good day
[11:33] <eagles0513875> thats kool
[11:34] <Linux_Galore> Matroska is a project to develop an open source multimedia container format similar to Apple's QuickTime or Microsoft's Advanced Streaming Format. It is named after the Matryoshka doll.
[11:34] <Linux_Galore> mkv is pretty big with anime junkies these days
[11:34] <bart_17> how can i change the screen resolution?
[11:35] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: as in its not high enough in the settings section ?
[11:35] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: or as in "I want to change it on the fly" ?
[11:36] <bart_17> linux_galore: i just installed ubuntu 5.10 on my old pc and i can't seem to go beyond a 640X480 resolution
[11:36] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: aaah only one method to fix that
[11:37] <bart_17> how?
[11:37] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: try running  sudo dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg
[11:38] <bart_17> will that work on ubuntu 5.10?
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: then restart X ie press ctrl alt backspace then start krandrtray so you can select one of the setting you have defined
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: should do
[11:39] <bart_17> thanx...
[11:41] <bart_17> my old pc is an amd k62-500, 256 ram, 8.7Gb HD, do you think i can run fiesty decently on this pc, or should i stick with the 5.10?
[11:41] <binks> !mythbuntu
[11:41] <ubotu> Mythbuntu is an Ubuntu derivative centered upon setting up a standalone MythTV system. See: http://www.mythbuntu.org for more information
[11:42] <franzmaximilian> yesterday adept prompted for update of a couple of packages, which i did without giving a closer look.  I do not remember getting any error, but today my xserver does not start!  Using a nvidia card.
[11:42] <franzmaximilian> any hint is welcome
[11:43] <bart_17> linux_galore: my old pc is an amd k62-500, 256 ram, 8.7Gb HD, do you think i can run fiesty decently on this pc, or should i stick with the 5.10?
[11:43] <franzmaximilian> now, do not tell me this is not windows and i should know what i'm doing.... for I already know you are right.
[11:44] <Jahman> hi
[11:44] <franzmaximilian> but i was in hurry....
[11:45] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: no, get xubuntu, that way you can have the latest version without the slowness
[11:45] <hollandlucas> hello
[11:46] <hollandlucas> How can I change the language of the Kubuntu login screen (I'm using Feisty)
[11:46] <bart_17> xububtu fiesty?
[11:46] <Linux_Galore> www.xubuntu.org
[11:46] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: yep
[11:46] <bart_17> thanx
[11:47] <bart_17> configuring the  resolution would be the same i presume??
[11:47] <Linux_Galore> hollandlucas: you have to change the default for kde as a whole
[11:47] <hollandlucas> I have
[11:47] <hollandlucas> but the login screen is still in English
[11:47] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: no should be better as its newer, 5.10 was pretty crappy
[11:48] <bart_17> oh ok... what if i get thew same problem how would i address it?
[11:48] <hollandlucas> ah
[11:48] <hollandlucas> I think I've solved the problem
[11:48] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: same way as i mentioned no different
[11:49] <bart_17> ok, by the way how do you start krandrtray?? i'm a noobie.. trying out linux
[11:49] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: open a term and type krandrtray after you login
[11:50] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: if your in xubuntu though they use a different app
[11:50] <bart_17> what would it be?
[11:50] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: not sure of the top of my head
[11:50] <franzmaximilian> am I the only one who has troubles with his xserver not working after the most recent update? I did it as always before but something must have gone wrong or updates are bugged!
[11:50] <bart_17> ok, thanx, i'll ask around in the xubuntu cahnnels...
[11:50] <Linux_Galore> bart_17: xrandr
[11:51] <bart_17> thanx
[11:52] <bart_17> does xubuntu play mp3's out of the box?>
[11:53] <franzmaximilian> anyone can help about reconfiguring xorg.conf or nvidia drivers ? had them messed up with yesterday's updates...
[11:57] <franzmaximilian> can't anyone help?  I updated yesterday restricted modules at adept prompt, and my Xserver does not work today!
[11:58] <franzmaximilian> please.....
[11:58] <ubuntu_> hola
[11:59] <ubuntu_> alguien me puede ayudar
[11:59] <franzmaximilian> :(
[12:00] <ubuntu_> tengo q configurar una wifi
[12:01] <ubuntu_> tengo otra version en la ps3
[12:01] <eagles0513875> !es
[12:01] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:01] <eagles0513875> ubuntu_: solo ingles aqui
[12:01] <ubuntu_> gracias , y perdonar es la 1 vez
[12:02] <eagles0513875> de nada mi amigo
[12:03] <eagles0513875> u guys r lucky u have someone who can speak some spanish
[12:03] <franzmaximilian> can anyone help with nvidia configuration?  After updating restricted modules yesterday, my Xserver does not start!
[12:05] <franzmaximilian> thumbs down for kubuntu support
[12:06] <dr34dy> no sound for pidgin
[12:06] <dr34dy> could someone help?
[12:06] <dr34dy> i use kubuntu 704
[12:12] <hollandlucas> dr34dy: Do you have sound in other applications?
[12:24] <Linux_Galore> ?? I thought pidgin didnt have sound yet
[12:25] <Linux_Galore> the correct wrod though is "voice"
[12:25] <Linux_Galore> word*
[12:25] <word> linux_galore*
[12:25] <word> not so funny now is it? >:O
[12:26] <Linux_Galore> ?
[12:26] <word> i really should turn off nick notifications for this channel ;p
[12:26] <Linux_Galore> or use a handle that isnt a standard noun
[12:30] <lotzroeffel> moin
[12:32] <lotzroeffel> habe wlan-karte mit ndiswrapper installiert, dann mit iwconfig in der konsole konfiguriert. soweit so gut, aber er merkt sich das nicht. nach einem neustart muss ich iwconfig immer wieder neu ausfhren
[12:34] <pag> !de | lotzroeffel
[12:34] <ubotu> lotzroeffel: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:34] <hollandlucas> vielleicht hilft das: http://osdir.com/ml/drivers.ndiswrapper.general/2004-05/msg00198.html
[12:34] <lotzroeffel> ein problem, das ich bei edgy auch nicht hatte, ist dass bei ndisgtk "hardware present:no" angezeigt wird. bei edgy wurde "...:yes" angezeigt
[12:36] <lotzroeffel> thx..ich schau mal - und wende mich ans deutsche forum :)
[12:37] <hollandlucas> can you recommend a kde native desktop search?
[12:40] <isthisnickvalid_> Hi
[12:47] <hollandlucas> I've got a rather stupid question:
[12:47] <hollandlucas> In konqueror I can specify shortcuts for search engines (like gg for google)
[12:47] <montoya> what's the name of window decorator theme inside kubuntu?
[12:47] <hollandlucas> how do I use these?
[12:48] <X2B> question: how can I see the boot messages ("Starting apache2 webserver... [OK] ") again? Where are these log-files stored?
[12:50] <SSJ_GZ> hollandlucas: Type gg:search term in the address bar :)
[12:50] <SSJ_GZ> hollandlucas: Or Alt+F2 and enter gg:search term in the mini-cli
[12:51] <hollandlucas> can I change the keyboard shortcut for that Alt+F2 thing?
[12:53] <^V^> X2B: logs are located in /var/log/
[12:55] <X2B> yes, but which of the files is it?
[12:55] <^V^> try boot?
[12:56] <X2B> "(Nothing has been logged yet.)"
[12:57] <Kubuntu> did any of you guys had kubuntu as first linux distro?
[12:58] <^V^> X2B: what are you looking for exactly?
[12:58] <X2B> fsck messages
[01:00] <^V^> there is an fsck folder
[01:01] <eagles0513875> Kubuntu: y do u ask
[01:01] <X2B> yeah, just saw that. But I think there were some fsck errors that don't show up in the fsck folder
[01:01] <^V^> also, you could grep through the logs
[01:02] <hollandlucas> weird
[01:02] <hollandlucas> I cannot find the driver for my printer in the KDE print dialog
[01:02] <hollandlucas> under gnome it was there...
[01:02] <^V^> hollandlucas: what printer?
[01:02] <hollandlucas> Epson Stylus DX4250
[01:03] <Kubuntu> because i've noticed that newbies usually install ubuntu while kubuntu is used by people who already had linux with kde
[01:03] <hollandlucas> the weird thing is
[01:03] <^V^> try both and use which you prefer
[01:03] <hollandlucas> that the driver is a gutenprint one
[01:03] <hollandlucas> and gutenprint is installed
[01:04] <^V^> hollandlucas: I seem to have it in the list
[01:04] <hollandlucas> weird
[01:04] <hollandlucas> I only have Stylus Color printers in the list
[01:04] <Kubuntu> gnome's popularity rises with ubuntu's popularity, don't you think?
[01:05] <^V^> scroll further?
[01:05] <hollandlucas> I've scrolled the entire list
[01:05] <^V^> probably, they are nearly identical
[01:05] <Kubuntu> gnome wasn't that popular in pre-ubuntu times :)
[01:06] <hollandlucas> I prefer KDE
[01:06] <Kubuntu> me too
[01:06] <^V^> hollandlucas: what have you got listed right after Epson Color * ?
[01:06] <hollandlucas> nothing
[01:06] <hollandlucas> the last one in the list
[01:06] <hollandlucas> is
[01:06] <hollandlucas> Stylus Scan 2500
[01:06] <^V^> no Epson Photo?
[01:06] <hollandlucas> nope
[01:07] <hollandlucas> Stylus Photo
[01:07] <^V^> I have color, cx, dx, photo
[01:07] <hollandlucas> is in the list
[01:07] <hollandlucas> but I need dx ;-)
[01:07] <arun> how do you delete a directory from konsole
[01:07] <hollandlucas> rm
[01:07] <^V^> rm -r dir
[01:07] <hollandlucas> rm -r
[01:07] <eagles0513875> Kubuntu: kde is better developed in my opinion
[01:08] <arun> thanks
[01:08] <eagles0513875> ^V^: what does this mean then rm -rf then the name of the directory
[01:08] <hollandlucas> I like KDE because of the killer apps it has
[01:08] <hollandlucas> Kontact
[01:08] <hollandlucas> Amarok
[01:08] <hollandlucas> Konqueror
[01:08] <^V^> -f forces read only files to be deleted also
[01:08] <arun> katapult
[01:09] <hollandlucas> I don't like katapult
[01:09] <arun> why's that
[01:09] <hollandlucas> Butler and Quicksilver (OS X apps) are much better
[01:09] <^V^> eagles0513875: type `man rm`
[01:09] <arun> yeah, but  katapult works fine for me
[01:09] <hollandlucas> I think it's ugly
[01:09] <eagles0513875> ok
[01:09] <arun> you can customise how it looks
[01:09] <eagles0513875> what is katapult supposed to do
[01:09] <hollandlucas> it's an app launcher
[01:09] <arun> mine looks pretty good
[01:10] <^V^> what does a catapult do?
[01:10] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:10] <^V^> lol
[01:10] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:11] <hollandlucas> lol
[01:11] <Kubuntu> next kubuntu is gonna have kde 4 rc2 as an option :)
[01:11] <otto_> hi all
[01:11] <otto_> I'm new to ubuntu
[01:11] <arun> anyone know how i can get konsole fonts to not be smoothed
[01:12] <hollandlucas> damn
[01:12] <hollandlucas> I can't get my printer to work because of KDE :-(
[01:12] <eagles0513875> otto if ur using ubuntu ur in teh wrong channel
[01:12] <otto_> sorry I mean kubuntu, anyways
[01:12] <eagles0513875> lol
[01:12] <eagles0513875> whats u haveing trouble with otto
[01:12] <otto_> can anyone help me making my thunderbird sync wiht linux and windows?
[01:12] <Kubuntu> arun: which console font do you use?
[01:13] <Kubuntu> arun: terminus is a nice one and it's not antialiased :)
[01:13] <otto_> pls
[01:14] <eagles0513875> when u say that otto u talking bout on the same machine or 2 different ones
[01:14] <eagles0513875> sup ice
[01:14] <arun> Kubuntu: all my fonts are antialiased.. can i just tweak some setting somewhere so that 'monotype' fonts are not antialiased?
[01:14] <icecruncher> hey eagles
[01:14] <^V^> hollandlucas: what kubuntu version are you on?
[01:14] <hollandlucas> Feisty
[01:15] <^V^> and you say you have the gutenprint package?
[01:15] <hollandlucas> I think so
[01:15] <hollandlucas> it's installed by default isn't it
[01:15] <icecruncher> eagles: speeds increase yet? :)
[01:15] <^V^> check? :)
[01:16] <Kubuntu> arun: i wish i knew how to apply some settings to specific fonts, too, i wonder if that's possible at all
[01:16] <hollandlucas> lol
[01:16] <hollandlucas> I didn't have it installed
[01:16] <^V^> which one?
[01:16] <hollandlucas> lol
[01:16] <hollandlucas> now I have more printers in the list
[01:16] <hollandlucas> CX and so on
[01:16] <hollandlucas> but DX is still missing
[01:16] <^V^> :)
[01:16] <^V^> :(
[01:16] <^V^> should be right after CX
[01:17] <hollandlucas> oh
[01:17] <hollandlucas> there it is!
[01:17] <^V^> :)
[01:17] <^V^> what was the package you installed?
[01:17] <hollandlucas> I installed gutenprint*
[01:18] <hollandlucas> I'm now gonna try and print something
[01:19] <otto_> somebody help
[01:19] <hollandlucas> mmm
[01:19] <otto_> pls
[01:20] <hollandlucas> there is a little x on the printer icon
[01:21] <hollandlucas> and it doesn't print
[01:21] <hollandlucas> it's attached to a server
[01:21] <hollandlucas> but Kubuntu has found it on the network
[01:21] <icecruncher> anybody install google desktop yet? it's awesome and fast
[01:21] <^V^> did you select "network printer"?
[01:21] <hollandlucas> yes
[01:21] <hollandlucas> ipp://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/ipp
[01:21] <hollandlucas> is what Kubuntu tells me
[01:22] <hollandlucas> icecruncher: is it qt based?
[01:22] <hollandlucas> it used to work under ubuntu
[01:22] <icecruncher> hollandlucas: I thinkso, you ca get the .deb from their site
[01:22] <^V^> you can still use it in kubuntu
[01:22] <icecruncher> it's not in wine anymore
[01:23] <^V^> you mean native?
[01:23] <icecruncher> yes
[01:24] <^V^> hollandlucas: go to http://localhost:631
[01:24] <hollandlucas> on the server?
[01:24] <^V^> pc
[01:24] <hollandlucas> the server (which the printer is attached to)
[01:24] <^V^> where you installed the driver
[01:24] <hollandlucas> is running OS X
[01:25] <^V^> I've got a networked printer but that's connected straight to my router
[01:26] <hollandlucas> I don't understand
[01:26] <hollandlucas> why it worked with Gnome
[01:26] <hollandlucas> and not with KDE
[01:26] <^V^> you didn't set it up right...
[01:26] <^V^> does it give an error?
[01:26] <^V^> and did you check the CUPs page?
[01:26] <^V^> CUPS*
[01:26] <hollandlucas> on which machine?
[01:26] <hollandlucas> the server or the client?
[01:26] <^V^> where you have installed CUPS driver
[01:27] <^V^> so the kubuntu machine
[01:27] <hollandlucas> okay
[01:27] <hollandlucas> I'm on the cups page
[01:27] <^V^> go to printers
[01:27] <hollandlucas> okay
[01:27] <hollandlucas> No printers found
[01:27] <^V^> really? hmm...
[01:28] <^V^> it should be in there
[01:28] <hollandlucas> it's weird
[01:28] <hollandlucas> the KDE GUI
[01:28] <hollandlucas> finds it
[01:28] <hollandlucas> and it tells me
[01:28] <hollandlucas> that there is a
[01:28] <hollandlucas> client-error-not-found
[01:28] <^V^> yeah, can't find it
[01:28] <^V^> did you set the right port?
[01:28] <hollandlucas> it displays the machine the printer is attached to though
[01:28] <hollandlucas> 631
[01:28] <^V^> but not the printer?
[01:29] <^V^> no, I mean the printer port
[01:29] <hollandlucas> ?
[01:29] <^V^> mine is 9100
[01:29] <hollandlucas> I don't know
[01:29] <^V^> socket://<IP_ADDRESS>:9100
[01:29] <^V^> from my CUPS page
[01:29] <hollandlucas> I set the printer up under OS  X
[01:29] <hollandlucas> which basically hides all the Unix stuff
[01:29] <^V^> yeah, but you need to set it up in linux also
[01:29] <hollandlucas> I know, the linux box is gonna act as the "client"
[01:29] <^V^> is the printer connected via USB/PAr port? or network?
[01:30] <hollandlucas> it's connected via USB to the server machine
[01:30] <hollandlucas> which is connected via a normal network
[01:30] <hollandlucas> to the client
[01:30] <^V^> okay, so that's a bit different
[01:30] <^V^> I'm not familiar with the print system in OSX
[01:31] <hollandlucas> it uses cups
[01:31] <^V^> what do they use?
[01:31] <otto_> if I wanna link my mail profile in thunderbird to the one in windows, should I use a sym or hard link?
[01:31] <^V^> oh, then you need to select "remote CUPS server"
[01:31] <^V^> did you pick "network printer"?
[01:32] <hollandlucas> wait
[01:32] <hollandlucas> my cups web ui is in German you see ;-)
[01:32] <^V^> lol...
[01:32] <hollandlucas> so
[01:32] <hollandlucas> I have to go to the "printers" tab?
[01:32] <^V^> yes
[01:32] <hollandlucas> okay
[01:32] <^V^> the last tab
[01:32] <hollandlucas> there I get a text field
[01:33] <^V^> and no printer list?
[01:33] <hollandlucas> and it tells me that no printers have been found
[01:33] <^V^> okay
[01:33] <^V^> go to the kde printer panel
[01:33] <hollandlucas> ok
[01:33] <^V^> delete the one you installed
[01:33] <hollandlucas> done
[01:33] <^V^> and try again
[01:33] <^V^> pick remote cups server
[01:33] <hollandlucas> okay
[01:33] <hollandlucas> anonymous?
[01:34] <^V^> I think so
[01:34] <hollandlucas> I'll try the "Test" button...
[01:34] <^V^> did you use ipp:// ?
[01:35] <hollandlucas> no
[01:35] <hollandlucas> I just entered the IP address
[01:35] <hollandlucas> and it found the printer
[01:35] <hollandlucas> there was a list
[01:35] <hollandlucas> showing one printer
[01:35] <^V^> okay
[01:35] <hollandlucas> mmm
[01:35] <hollandlucas> it's not printing anything
[01:35] <^V^> permissions?
[01:35] <hollandlucas> ?
[01:36] <^V^> check /etc/cups/cupsd.conf on the server
[01:36] <^V^> have you got a line like: Listen localhost:631 ?
[01:36] <hollandlucas> let me check...
[01:38] <_4strO> yop yop
[01:38] <hollandlucas> there is a line
[01:38] <hollandlucas> which is outcommented
[01:38] <hollandlucas> and says
[01:39] <hollandlucas> Listen <IP_ADDRESS>:631
[01:39] <^V^> thats the same as localhost
[01:39] <^V^> is it commented?
[01:39] <hollandlucas> yes
[01:39] <hollandlucas> #
[01:39] <^V^> any that are uncommented?
[01:39] <hollandlucas> Port 631
[01:39] <hollandlucas> and
[01:39] <hollandlucas> Listen /private/var/run/cupsd
[01:40] <hollandlucas> should I remove the # before Listen <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:40] <icecruncher> _4strO: yop yop?
[01:40] <^V^> hollandlucas: comment the original line, add Listen localhost:631 and Listen XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX:631 to it underneath
[01:40] <_4strO> :p hello :)
[01:40] <^V^> where the XXX.XXX...etc represents your LAN IP
[01:41] <^V^> of the client
[01:41] <hollandlucas> the LAN IP of the client
[01:41] <hollandlucas> ok
[01:41] <hollandlucas> ay
[01:41] <icecruncher> _4strO: :)
[01:41] <^V^> and restart the CUPS server
[01:42] <hollandlucas> I'm going to reboot the server
[01:42] <hollandlucas> it needed rebooting anyway ;-)
[01:42] <^V^> just the CUPS not the whole PC
[01:43] <^V^> I hope you are not doing a full system reboot...
[01:43] <hollandlucas> why?
[01:43] <^V^> becuase its slower...
[01:43] <^V^> and you don't need to?
[01:43] <hollandlucas> it's done
[01:43] <^V^> this isn't windows you know
[01:44] <hollandlucas> should I re-try adding the printer via the KDE dialog?
[01:44] <^V^> it should be in there still
[01:44] <^V^> right?
[01:44] <hollandlucas> no
[01:44] <hollandlucas> i deleted it ;-)
[01:44] <hollandlucas> I'll just re-added
[01:44] <^V^> :(
[01:44] <^V^> try again
[01:44] <hollandlucas> just to make sure
[01:44] <^V^> okay
[01:45] <hollandlucas> okay done
[01:46] <hollandlucas> I'll try printing something
[01:46] <^V^> okay...
[01:46] <hollandlucas> the KJobViewer appeared
[01:46] <icecruncher> how can I open my password protected rar file  from win?
[01:46] <hollandlucas> but the item inside it
[01:46] <hollandlucas> has now disappeared
[01:46] <hollandlucas> the printer isn't doing anything
[01:46] <^V^> hollandlucas: check the CUPS page
[01:46] <hollandlucas> the server's?
[01:46] <^V^> icecruncher: what do you mean from win?
[01:46] <^V^> hollandlucas: the clients
[01:47] <icecruncher> windows
[01:47] <^V^> so it is on windows and you want to read it in linux?
[01:47] <hollandlucas> okay I've opened the cups page
[01:47] <^V^> hollandlucas: printer in there?
[01:47] <hollandlucas> no
[01:47] <icecruncher> ^V^: it ws on windows, I put a password on it there, now in linux
[01:47] <hollandlucas> or wait
[01:47] <hollandlucas> it is
[01:47] <^V^> icecruncher: can you see the file from linux?
[01:48] <llutz> icecruncher: rar x -p file.rar
[01:48] <icecruncher> yes
[01:48] <^V^> sudo apt-get install unrar
[01:48] <hollandlucas> when I instruct it to print a testpage
[01:48] <hollandlucas> it says
[01:48] <icecruncher> llutz: not unrar?
[01:48] <hollandlucas> Quota limit reached
[01:48] <vzduch> ^V^: why unrar if there is rar? ;)
[01:48] <^V^> It sees it at least :) (I think)
[01:48] <llutz> icecruncher: unrar works too
[01:48] <^V^> what does the URI say?
[01:49] <hollandlucas> it says
[01:49] <hollandlucas> ipp://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/Stylus_DX4200
[01:49] <hollandlucas> the 4200 is normal, OS X recognises it as a 4200
[01:50] <^V^> hollandlucas: what does the state say?
[01:50] <hollandlucas> I'll translate
[01:50] <hollandlucas> free, accepting jobs, published
[01:50] <^V^> that should be 'idle' ;)
[01:50] <icecruncher> ^V^ llutz: thnks
[01:50] <^V^> so that seems fine
[01:51] <hollandlucas> maybe I should reboot the client?
[01:51] <^V^> hollandlucas: I think it might be to do with the config on the server
[01:51] <^V^> hollandlucas: no
[01:51] <vzduch> ubuntu has joined #kubuntu.. o0
[01:51] <hollandlucas> let me check the server's cups conf
[01:51] <hollandlucas> maybe it didn't make the changes to the file
[01:52] <^V^> you can try `sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart`
[01:52] <^V^> if you need to restart the CUPS server
[01:52] <ciacon> Hi, I would like to flash my bios, as I hope to use my large 1gb sdram module... chaintech (the mobo-manufacturer) has provided me with *.bin files... how do I flash the bios with ubuntu (as I can't use a standard windows bios flash-tool)
[01:52] <^V^> ciacon: any DOS flash tools available?
[01:53] <hollandlucas> yeah
[01:53] <nicolas> hello!
[01:53] <hollandlucas> it didn't make the changes
[01:53] <icecruncher> !hello
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <ciacon> ^V^: sadly no dos-flash provided
[01:53] <hollandlucas> I'll make the changes and restart cups
[01:53] <hollandlucas> one min
[01:54] <^V^> have you got some sort of auto-flasher when it detects a BIN file on CD/floppy?
[01:54] <^V^> I know some ASUS boards can do it
[01:55] <hollandlucas> okay done
[01:55] <hollandlucas> should I just try to print again
[01:55] <hollandlucas> or do I have to re-add the printer
[01:55] <^V^> no
[01:55] <ciacon> ^V^: I have checked... there is a seperate flash-tool provided in another *.rar that I got off their site... now I only need to do a "format a: /s".... -.-
[01:55] <^V^> that should be okay
[01:56] <hollandlucas> I'll try to print then...
[01:56] <nicolas> I've a pb... adept updater won't run, it say an other process is already using the data base... but i've just start the system, and i haven't run any application before... do you know how can i fix it
[01:56] <nicolas> ?
[01:56] <ciacon> ^V^: any sujestion how/where I can get a a standard dos floppy
[01:57] <^V^> you can use a CD
[01:57] <ciacon> ^V^: don't even have that....
[01:57] <hollandlucas> now the job doesn't disappear
[01:58] <hollandlucas> but nothing happens
[01:58] <^V^> ciacon: try this link, it might help: http://www.linuxinsight.com/how-to-flash-motherboard-bios-from-linux-no-dos-windows-no-floppy-drive.html
[01:58] <hollandlucas> there's a little  bolt on the icon
[01:58] <^V^> what is the error message?
[01:58] <hollandlucas> and it says: "Verarbeitung luft" which means
[01:58] <hollandlucas> that it's doing something
[01:58] <icecruncher> !adeptfix | nicolas
[01:58] <ubotu> nicolas: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:59] <nicolas> ok thxs :)
[01:59] <^V^> what is something?
[01:59] <hollandlucas> literally it says: Processing running
[01:59] <^V^> okay
[02:00] <^V^> printer not doing anything?
[02:00] <hollandlucas> bope
[02:00] <hollandlucas> nope
[02:01] <^V^> you restarted the CUPS server on Mac after the changes?
[02:01] <hollandlucas> yes
[02:01] <hollandlucas> I'll try re-adding the printer
[02:01] <^V^> and the changes are still there?
[02:01] <hollandlucas> let me check
[02:01] <ciacon> ^V^: thanks =)... FreeDos seems like the way to go =).... tyvm
[02:01] <hollandlucas> yes
[02:01] <hollandlucas> they are
[02:02] <etalli_> AHH! Who is using etalli?
[02:03] <nicolas> it works now!! thanks a lot ubotu!
[02:03] <etalli_> ubotu is a bot
[02:03] <ubotu> Yes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
[02:03] <etalli_> You don't need to thank bots.
[02:04] <truthseeker> any guru there 2 help me
[02:04] <nicolas> ? why?
[02:04] <hollandlucas> one more thing I can try
[02:05] <hollandlucas> adding ServerName <IP_ADDRESS> to /etc/cups/client.conf
[02:05] <icecruncher> lol, they shold make the bot reply to a thankyou
[02:06] <nicolas> lol it's my first time on IRC, i was thinking a bot was an admin, an humain admin
[02:06] <nicolas> so a bot is a robot ok
[02:07] <etalli_> nicolas:  that's ok, I made that mistake a while ago too. :)
[02:07] <hollandlucas> weird
[02:07] <hollandlucas> when I run lpq
[02:07] <hollandlucas> it tells me it can't reach the server
[02:07] <etalli_> nicolas:  The name gives it away.  uBOTu
[02:08] <truthseeker> ubotu...an artificial intelligence??
[02:08] <jzilla> my name is jzilla but im not a dinosaur
[02:08] <icecruncher> !ubotu
[02:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:08] <truthseeker> oh my..it is true.!!
[02:09] <^V^> hollandlucas: lpq?
[02:10] <hollandlucas> yeah
[02:10] <hollandlucas> from man lpq:
[02:10] <^V^> nvm
[02:10] <hollandlucas> lpq - show printer queue status
[02:11] <^V^> so you can't access printer?
[02:11] <hollandlucas> right
[02:11] <hollandlucas> I can ping the server's IP though
[02:11] <hollandlucas> so it's a cups problem
[02:11] <^V^> yeah...
[02:12] <icecruncher> how can I map my entire network? a in see what computer is online?
[02:12] <^V^> and you say it worked in gnome with no modifications to the cups server on OS X?
[02:12] <hollandlucas> yes
[02:13] <^V^> very strange...I'm out of ideas
[02:13] <^V^> but try to figure out how you set it up in gnome and how those settings tramnslate to kde
[02:14] <^V^> be back later
[02:14] <hollandlucas> k
[02:14] <nicolas> gotta go, thxs for the help! bye :)
[02:14] <etalli_> see you later, nicolas
[02:16] <etalli_> !botsnack
[02:16] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[02:21] <icecruncher> !ping
[02:21] <ubotu> pong
[02:21] <etalli-> !ping
[02:21] <ubotu> pong
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> ping
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> ah! one point for me in Ping-pong!
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> 20 more to go!
[02:23] <etalli-> !ping
[02:23] <ubotu> pong
[02:23] <etalli-> !ping
[02:23] <etalli-> I win!
[02:23] <icecruncher> !windows
[02:23] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[02:24] <etalli-> Who was talking about Windows?
[02:24] <etalli-> !equivalents
[02:24] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[02:25] <etalli-> Help!!!!  Wait.  Bil Gates isn't the devil.   That would be Bill Gates.
[02:26] <icecruncher> no, I mean Bil
[02:26] <etalli-> What?
[02:26] <etalli-> Who is Bil Gates?
[02:26] <icecruncher> agh
[02:26] <icecruncher> Bil meaning the entire family
[02:27] <etalli-> OK
[02:27] <icecruncher> lol, actually spelling mistake :)
[02:27] <darkrift411> bil as the the first part of the amount of his net worth?
[02:28] <darkrift411> q: i have a pocket pc, raki and multisync
[02:28] <etalli-> Good, cause I thought you were either a little slow, or that you were foreign and that meant the family of in some other language
[02:28] <darkrift411> when i plug in my ppc, i see
[02:28] <darkrift411> * huw_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #kubuntu
[02:28] <icecruncher> haahaha
[02:28] <darkrift411> erm
[02:28] <darkrift411> 331.676000]  usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4
[02:28] <darkrift411> [  331.900000]  usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[02:29] <darkrift411> and lsusb shows it
[02:29] <darkrift411> but nothing else finds it
[02:29] <darkrift411> any ideas as to what i could do?
[02:29] <icecruncher> etalli-: I'm neither, lol, well tired...
[02:31] <darkrift411> segue*
[02:31] <darkrift411> gn all
[02:31] <darkrift411> or gm for most
[02:33] <etalli-> Poll:  What IRC client are you using?  I am trying to choose one.
[02:33] <icecruncher> darkrift411: sorry, no
[02:34] <icecruncher> etalli-: Konversation
[02:35] <vzduch> irssi
[02:35] <nosrednaekim> konversation
[02:35] <Tm_T> irssi
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> thats why I like it ^^^
[02:36] <etalli-> :)
[02:36] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: well, those scripts can be in any client
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> Tm_T: but they aren't.
[02:36] <Tm_T> aren't what?
[02:36] <Tm_T> there by default?
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[02:36] <Tm_T> hrr
[02:37] <Tm_T> glad they aren't
[02:37] <Tm_T> I have habit to kickban overusing of scripts
[02:37] <Tm_T> (not here though)
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> EEEK!
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> perdon perdon senor Tm_T!
[02:37] <Tm_T> haha
[02:38] <icecruncher> Sysinfo for 'machinata07': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Celeron (Mendocino) at 334 MHz (669 bogomips), HD: 7/36GB, RAM: 183/186MB, 148 proc's, 8.35h up
[02:38] <icecruncher> nosrednaekim: I agree< very nice scripts
[02:38] <Tm_T> I agree, very irrelevant and noisy stuff
[02:38] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[02:38] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> !slap Tm_T
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slap tm_t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> er
[02:39] <icecruncher> hehe, can be usefulll though
[02:39] <Tm_T> yes, your hardware setup IS offtopic
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> ok Tm_T
[02:39] <Tm_T> unless related to support question ofcourse (;
[02:39] <icecruncher> sory tm_T
[02:39] <Tm_T> icecruncher: hum, what we're hiding?
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> mice st all come out to play
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> *et al
[02:40] <icecruncher> Tm_T: hide from you, the op
[02:40] <icecruncher> ah
[02:40] <Tm_T> icecruncher: I'm not op
[02:40] <etalli_> ?
[02:40] <icecruncher> not anymore
[02:40] <Tm_T> never been, you must been dreaming
[02:41] <icecruncher> it's all in you head, right?
[02:41] <etalli_> It had the little @ next to your name
[02:41] <Tm_T> ah that, that's just silly hat
[02:41] <icecruncher> ""Tm_T takes channel operator privileges from Tm_T""
[02:41] <icecruncher> lol
[02:41] <etalli_> Oh, I must have missed that.
[02:41] <Tm_T> icecruncher: never happened
[02:41] <Tm_T> ;--P
[02:43] <flami> Hi , can i create a ad hoc wlan with knetworkmanager ? I read about Networkmanager that you just need to create a new network , but i cant find that button in Knetworkmanager .
[02:44] <etalli_> Flaming space!  I just figured out who etalli is.  Preform whois on etalli and etalli_.  It's my other computer
[02:45] <flami> an evil nick steal ? ;)
[02:46] <etalli> Yay!
[02:46] <etalli> I am in my happy place.
[02:47] <icecruncher> etalli: Konversation has some really nice commands
[02:47] <icecruncher> Beer load [      \              ]  30%
[02:48] <etalli> What about Beer load [    \              ]  30%
[02:48] <Tm_T> icecruncher: stop
[02:48] <icecruncher> yesur
[02:48] <Tm_T> etalli: #kubuntu-offtopic for that thanks
[02:49] <squall2> hasan2 where r u
[02:49] <etalli> icecruncher: lets go!
[02:49] <DexterF> hi
[02:50] <DexterF> tried writing an iso image to cd-rw with k3b, deosn't work. k3b stalls, the it goes "buffer overflow, reduce speed"
[02:50] <squall2> what is going on hasan2
[02:50] <icecruncher> etalli: come on
[02:50] <DexterF> that cdrw works fine at 10x, tested, rather unused
[02:51] <DexterF> copied the wodim command to konsole, says cant open scsi driver
[02:51] <DexterF> as root!
[02:51] <DexterF> pointers?
[02:53] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[02:53] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:54] <Karti> Hi all, just a qucick one. I absolutely love Kubuntu 7.04 and its now on my main PC. (So its my way to force me to use Linux!) but what is the general opinion about moving to the next version every 6 months? Its just that 7.1 looks good as well? Any ideas?
[02:56] <[nk] > keeping with the latest packages is what keeps me happy
[02:56] <Karti> [nk] : But I can do that with the Adept Package Manager can I not?
[02:58] <Karti> I think the 7.04 is supported for 18 months which is fine, I just wondered if I would have to install all my apps again with each new version rather than just transfer my home partition accross
[02:59] <llutz> Karti: if you have installed all your apps from the official repos, you should be able to upate/upgrade to 7.10 later with adept
[02:59] <etalli> Karti:  Where did you get 7.1 from?  The next version will be 7.10.  The first number is the last of the year (2007) and the two after are the month (October, April)
[03:00] <etalli> Or was that a typo.
[03:00] <Karti> llutz: I have kept it all within the normal repos and some recommended ones (for exampleflash nvidea etc)
[03:00] <vzduch> flashplayer and nvidia are in multiverse afaik
[03:01] <Karti> etalli: Sorry, just thinking maths.......and leaving the 0 out :(
[03:01] <etalli> Ha.
[03:01] <Karti> As a new user I used "the 13 things to do to Ubuntu before you use it" webpage which suggested some others
[03:02] <icecruncher> Karti: what site is that?
[03:02] <etalli> Oh, where's that.  That would be interesting to read to see if I've done them all.
[03:02] <vzduch> never heard of
[03:02] <etalli> Ahh!    Read.
[03:03] <eagles0513875> sup
[03:03] <vzduch> for my first Kubuntu install I used http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntu7.04 as a rough guide
[03:04] <Karti> It enabled me to have everything that I required to move away from Windows (if I remember correctly)
[03:04] <vzduch> Medibuntu shouldn't be a problem
[03:05] <vzduch> I got that too, but I found it through other sources
[03:05] <eagles0513875> would the msft equivalent of medibuntu be media center lol
[03:05] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[03:05] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:06] <Karti> vzduch: The site is a good one, complete with screenshots
[03:06] <etalli> since when are Google Earth, picasa, Adobe Reader, and Skype must haves
[03:07] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:07] <Karti> etalli: Never said I used them all ;)
[03:07] <eagles0513875> skype isnt picasa is a good picture program google earth is total up to the person
[03:07] <eagles0513875> lol
[03:07] <icecruncher> oh wow, nice guide
[03:07] <vzduch> Google Earth and Picasa are definitively not necessary
[03:07] <vzduch> Skype depends on the ppl you hang out with ;)
[03:08] <llutz> so does acroread
[03:08] <vzduch> Acroread is, like it or not, the best PDF viewer around
[03:08] <icecruncher> vzduch: neitehr are microsoft fonts
[03:08] <eagles0513875> !sourcomatic
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sourcomatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[03:08] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:08] <vzduch> Msft fonts are not necessary indeed
[03:08] <Karti> I will admit to using Acrobat though...
[03:09] <icecruncher> neither is d4x
[03:09] <eagles0513875> Karti: i think alot of us use acrobat lol
[03:09] <vzduch> llutz: just take a read through the pages of the Scribus project.. they see too many deficiencies w/ the alternatives (i.e. Kpdf, gpdf, xpdf and whatnot) so they recommend using Acroread for good results
[03:10] <llutz> vzduch: depends on your needs, kpdf works fine _for me_
[03:11] <Karti> Just out of interest is there a application that can view all file types?
[03:13] <icecruncher> I don't think so, although you can do a lot with konqueror + plugins
[03:13] <llutz> Karti: less :)
[03:15] <Karti> an example would be this http://www.explorerview.com
[03:16] <kain> hello
[03:16] <etalli> lol
[03:17] <icecruncher> ello
[03:17] <kain> i installed the demo of a program... installed the full version demo still runs... i need to uninstall the demo but it's not in my package manager or anything
[03:17] <Karti> but like you said with Konquerer you should get the same idea
[03:17] <icecruncher> Karti: yes
[03:17] <kain> i did find an uninstall file but when i try to run in the terminal it doesn't uninstall?
[03:17] <kain> help please?
[03:18] <Karti> kain: what program?
[03:18] <icecruncher> kain: what program? how did you install it?
[03:18] <kain> bridge construction set
[03:18] <kain> i sudo
[03:18] <icecruncher> kain: you used command line?
[03:18] <kain> yes
[03:19] <kain> for the bin
[03:19] <icecruncher> kain: do sudo apt-get remove <prgram name>
[03:20] <icecruncher> Karti: this site might help you make a choice between filemanagers. http://www.linux.com/articles/113952
[03:20] <kain> says couldn't find package
[03:21] <kain> this isthe path to the uninstall: /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo/uninstall
[03:21] <Karti> <program name> should be the same name that you used to install it
[03:21] <kain> such as: ./bcsdemo_v1_3.sh.bin?
[03:21] <icecruncher> kain: try a dpkg -l | grep <name> to see if it's there
[03:22] <icecruncher> kain: no, you used the name, try bcs or bcsdemo
[03:22] <Karti> icecruncher: just reading the site - cheers ;)
[03:23] <kain> i just get a new command line
[03:23] <kain> doesn't do anything
[03:23] <kain> can i manually use the uninstall file?
[03:23] <kain> i even looked on their forums for uninstall nothing
[03:23] <kain> it has an uninstall file i am just new to linux/kubuntu
[03:25] <icecruncher> kain: in command line go to that folder
[03:25] <icecruncher> kain: then type ./unistall
[03:25] <icecruncher> or whtever
[03:25] <kain> k
[03:26] <eagles0513875> what does this mean guys
[03:26] <eagles0513875> # Automatically generated sources.list
[03:26] <eagles0513875> # http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[03:26] <eagles0513875> #
[03:26] <eagles0513875> # If you get GPG errors with this sources.list, locate the GPG key in this file
[03:26] <eagles0513875> # and run these commands (where KEY is replaced with that key)
[03:26] <eagles0513875> #
[03:26] <eagles0513875> # gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY
[03:26] <eagles0513875> # gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[03:26] <eagles0513875> #
[03:26] <eagles0513875> # If you don't know what to do with this file, read
[03:27] <juan> !grub
[03:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:27] <eagles0513875> # https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[03:27] <crdlb> !paste | eagles0513875
[03:27] <eagles0513875> # Ubuntu supported packages
[03:27] <ubotu> eagles0513875: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:27] <eagles0513875> # GPG key: 437D05B5
[03:27] <eagles0513875> deb http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main restricted
[03:27] <eagles0513875> deb http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-updates main restricted
[03:27] <eagles0513875> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security main restricted
[03:27] <crdlb> !ops
[03:27] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[03:27] <eagles0513875> # Ubuntu community supported packages
[03:27] <eagles0513875> # GPG key: 437D05B5
[03:27] <eagles0513875> deb http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy universe multiverse
[03:27] <eagles0513875> deb http://mt.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-updates universe multiverse
[03:27] <eagles0513875> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy-security universe multiverse
[03:27] <eagles0513875> # Ubuntu backports project
[03:27] <etalli> Ahh drowning in flood!
[03:27] <_4strO> eagles0513875: STOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
[03:27] <_4strO> eagles0513875: STOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
[03:28] <etalli> Thank you!
[03:28] <_4strO> lol
[03:28] <Hobbsee> my goodness....
[03:28] <Hobbsee> i thought he had more sense than that.
[03:28] <_4strO> i think he didn't see our warning
[03:28] <Hobbsee> he's been in this channel before.  it's not hard to see a topic
[03:28] <kain> ice: it says: Could not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting.
[03:28] <_4strO> yep
[03:29] <kain> what should i do to uninstall?
[03:29] <etalli> Where is $KDEDIR?
[03:29] <kain> just delete the folder?
[03:30] <_4strO> kain: how do you install it ?
[03:30] <_4strO> hox did you ...
[03:30] <_4strO> how*
[03:30] <_4strO> lol
[03:30] <_4strO> fucking fingers
[03:30] <Hobbsee> !language
[03:30] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:30] <kain> i did so with the command line
[03:30] <_4strO> sorry ...
[03:31] <kain> i am trying to uninstall with the command line with no luck
[03:31] <Hobbsee> we'll see if he can behave and not flood
[03:31] <kain> also the program isn't in any package managers
[03:31] <_4strO> kain: did you try to ./your_uninstall_file ?
[03:31] <kain> yes
[03:31] <kain> said
[03:31] <kain> Could not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting.
[03:32] <kain> i want to use the full version i just purchased not the demo
[03:32] <kain> but it keeps running the demo
[03:32] <_4strO> kain: what's your application and where did you find iot ?
[03:32] <kain> garagegames.com
[03:32] <kain> bridge construction set
[03:32] <_4strO> ok will look
[03:32] <kain> http://chroniclogic.com/
[03:32] <pag> kain, did you try to uninstall it with sudo, or normal user?
[03:33] <kain> sudo
[03:33] <_4strO> try with normal user :p
[03:34] <kain> k
[03:34] <eagles0513875> sry bout that guys
[03:34] <eagles0513875> i forgot that the shell doesnt allow one to use the ctrl c shortcut to copy stuff
[03:35] <kain> 4str0
[03:35] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:~$ cd /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo
[03:35] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:/usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo$ ./uninstall
[03:35] <kain> Could not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting.
[03:35] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:/usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo$
[03:35] <kain> ?????
[03:36] <_4strO> kain: think there is no uninstall file
[03:36] <llutz> kain head -1 /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo/uninstall
[03:41] <kain> i get this
[03:41] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:~$ head -1 /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo/uninstall
[03:41] <kain> #! /bin/sh
[03:41] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:~$
[03:41] <kain> what should i do?
[03:42] <llutz> kain: it's just a shell-script, look what it does and try to fix it
[03:42] <_4strO> kain: can you paste the result of : ls /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo ?
[03:42] <kain> i don't know how to code that
[03:43] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:~$  ls /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo
[03:43] <gnomefreak> on pastebin please
[03:43] <kain> bcs                        files         prop            SDL LPGL.txt
[03:43] <kain> bcs.bmp                    font.bmp      readmedemo.txt  settings.cfg
[03:43] <kain> bcs-linux-openal-fixer.sh  hwconfig.cfg  readme.txt      setup
[03:43] <kain> bcsnosound                 Manual.url    rungamens.sh    sound
[03:43] <kain> Chronic.url                object        rungame.sh      texture
[03:43] <kain> eulademo.txt               OpenAL32.dll  sdl.dll         uninstall
[03:43] <kain> kain@kain-laptop:~$
[03:44] <shane2peru> !paste @ kain
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste @ kain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <shane2peru> !pastebin @ kain
[03:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin @ kain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:44] <shane2peru> !pastebin
[03:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:44] <gnomefreak> ahcant use @ either > or |
[03:44] <kain> sorry about that
[03:44] <gnomefreak> !pastebin | kain
[03:44] <ubotu> kain: please see above
[03:44] <kain> sorry
[03:44] <kain> i did see
[03:44] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[03:45] <kain> dude i get it
[03:45] <gnomefreak> the bot shouldnt do that
[03:45] <_4strO> kain: how you install it ? ./install ?
[03:45] <kain> ?
[03:45] <kain> no
[03:45] <kain> i just opened the bin
[03:45] <kain> in terminal under sudo
[03:45] <_4strO> the game is still running ?
[03:47] <kain> nope
[03:48] <_4strO> kain: not sure you install anything  :p
[03:48] <kain> i can't even right click and delete the stupid file
[03:48] <kain> lol i've been running it
[03:48] <kain> how can i just trash the whole folder since it's got root permissions and group?
[03:49] <_4strO> kain: is it you who place the files in /usr/local/games/ ?N
[03:49] <kain> that was just the default location it chose
[03:49] <llutz> kain sudo rm -rf /usr/local/games/BridgeConstructionSetDemo/
[03:49] <shane2peru> kain:  do you just want to change the permissions?
[03:50] <_4strO> kai
[03:50] <_4strO> kain: type what llutz wrote
[03:50] <llutz> kain: after that, look into the other /usr/local subfolders for "BridgeConstruction...:" and delete it too, if one exist
[03:51] <kain> ok
[03:51] <kain> thanks
[03:51] <_4strO> kain: and check if you have a ~/BridgeConstructionSetDemo or something like this
[03:51] <shane2peru> llutz: that should get rid of the folder too.
[03:51] <llutz> shane2peru: sure
[03:51] <shane2peru> llutz: key word there, should. :)
[03:51] <llutz> shane2peru: it will
[03:53] <kain> llutz what is the command for a file not a folder
[03:53] <kain> i found 2 files in /usr/bin
[03:53] <llutz> kain rm file
[03:53] <Kjellviz> Hi, when i try to access my other (windows) partitions and/or my ext usb hdd, i get this error: Error - kio_media_mounthelper.    hal-storage-removable-media-all-options refused uid 1000
[03:54] <juan> if i have grub on a partition do i put the place i mounted the boot partion in as --root-directory=/tmp/boot
[03:54] <Kjellviz> hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000 for my internal hdd partitions
[03:55] <kain> ok now should i install the full version of this thing a different way?'
[03:55] <Kjellviz> any ideas ?
[03:55] <Kjellviz> (it was working fine in gnome btw)
[03:55] <llutz> kain: if they don't offer a .deb you will have to install it the known way
[04:03] <vzduch> how about creating a .deb w/ checkinstall?
[04:04] <starz> argh
[04:04] <starz> anyone good at getting grub to redetect other operating systems?
[04:04] <starz> im quad booting and its not working quite right
[04:09] <shane2peru> starz: I have played around quite a bit with Grub!
[04:09] <shane2peru> starz: never got to quad booting, only triple booting. :)
[04:11] <starz> ;_;
[04:11] <starz> well i got edgy / xp / feisty / fedora7
[04:11] <icecruncher> why edgy? ust upgrade
[04:11] <starz> what i really need to do is a redetect of all os's on the hdd's like during the install
[04:11] <shane2peru> starz: ok, what is not booting?
[04:11] <starz> icecruncher, i keep one of em edgy b/c its more stable
[04:12] <icecruncher> k
[04:12] <starz> shane2peru, its not just that there's a lot of crapola thats extra in there
[04:12] <shane2peru> starz: than fiesty??
[04:12] <starz> but fedora per se
[04:12] <starz> no.
[04:12] <starz> daa4ewt20-439ur023.
[04:12] <starz> there is no need to upgrade.
[04:12] <starz> i already HAVE a feisty install.
[04:12] <starz> i need to redetect all os's on my hdd's like with the install disk
[04:12] <starz> but i DONT wanna reinstall.
[04:13] <starz> ive highly customized quite a few things.
[04:13] <shane2peru> who is controlling the grub, you don't have to re-install, just edit your grub menu.
[04:13] <starz> there used to be a way to do this from the alternate install cd but that doesnt work anymore.
[04:13] <starz> which sud
[04:13] <starz> sux even
[04:13] <icecruncher> starz: can you mount them?
[04:13] <icecruncher> starz: as in are the entries in fstab
[04:13] <icecruncher> ?
[04:14] <llutz> starz: sudo update-grub
[04:14] <shane2peru> starz: who has control of grub?
[04:14] <starz> llutz, tried it didnt work
[04:14] <starz> shane2peru, edgy on (hd0,1)
[04:14] <shane2peru> starz: are you in edgy now?
[04:15] <Kjellviz> Hi, when i try to access my other (windows) partitions and/or my ext usb hdd, i get this error: Error - kio_media_mounthelper.    hal-storage-removable-media-all-options refused uid 1000
[04:15] <starz> llutz, doing so only redetected kernels in the running partition install
[04:15] <starz> shane2peru, yes
[04:15] <Kjellviz> any ideas ?
[04:15] <shane2peru> starz: in the terminal type:  cat /boot/grub/menu.lst and paste the results in pastebin
[04:15] <starz> Kjellviz, have you installed ntfs-3g
[04:15] <starz> kay
[04:15] <shane2peru> starz: as well as sudo fdisk -l
[04:16] <starz> /dev/hdb3       /media/hdb3     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
[04:16] <starz> !paste
[04:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:16] <starz> for the record
[04:16] <starz> if i dont break avahi dns stuff is usually very slow on feisty
[04:16] <Kjellviz> starz: no, but it was working fine before i installed kde/kubuntu desktop
[04:17] <starz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27954/
[04:17] <starz> Kjellviz, what were you running before that
[04:18] <Kjellviz> starz: native ubuntu install
[04:18] <starz> gnome eh
[04:18] <Kjellviz> starz: i just apt-getted kde
[04:18] <Kjellviz> yer
[04:18] <starz> ah
[04:19] <starz> Kjellviz, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:19] <starz> ive never had that particular problem
[04:19] <starz> your probably missing some of the extras
[04:19] <starz> shane2peru, is that making sense there? my pastebin?
[04:20] <shane2peru> starz: yep, which hdd/partition is your Fedora installation?
[04:20] <starz> hdb2
[04:20] <shane2peru> starz: all your titles read Ubuntu :)
[04:20] <starz> i know i deleted that bit a minute ago
[04:20] <llutz> starz: edit menu.lst manually and add needed entries
[04:20] <starz> and ran the update-grub
[04:20] <starz> :P
[04:20] <starz> llutz, i'm trying like heck to avoid that
[04:21] <icecruncher> starz: that's way to may entries
[04:21] <starz> icecruncher, probably
[04:21] <starz> thus the desire to redetect all os's
[04:21] <starz> do you rememeber with um
[04:21] <Kjellviz> starz: but ive already got kubuntu desktop installed ><
[04:21] <starz> 5.10 you could use alternate to redetect everything?
[04:21] <starz> just go through the install process till you got to partitioning and mount things where they should be
[04:22] <starz> then tell it not to write over any of hte partitions but let it rewrite on swap
[04:22] <starz> get the error and skip to grub?
[04:22] <starz> then it would do that?
[04:22] <shane2peru> starz: ok, Fedora isn't even in the Menu list!
[04:22] <starz> i would grab that disk but it had trouble killing partitions
[04:22] <starz> shane2peru, i said i deleted it from the grub
[04:22] <icecruncher> starz: how about backing it up, and rewriting it yoursef
[04:22] <starz> it was ubuntustudio before
[04:23] <starz> icecruncher, i legitimately have quite a few kernels in each, and would REALLY rather not.
[04:23] <shane2peru> starz: can you mount that partition and paste the /boot/grub/ contents of the fedora partition?
[04:23] <starz> sure
[04:23] <shane2peru> starz: it is easy to write a new entry, just copy the other above it.
[04:23] <shane2peru> starz: also if there is a menu.lst if you can get me that contents in the fedora partition.
[04:24] <shane2peru> starz: from the fedora partition
[04:24] <icecruncher> aye shane2peru
[04:24] <mustasj> Is there another gnutella client than limewire/frostwire . preferable not java based.
[04:24] <starz> shane2peru, icecruncher http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27956/
[04:24] <starz> mustasj, yeah
[04:24] <shane2peru> icecruncher: have done it a few times, playing around with distros.
[04:24] <starz> gtk-gnutilla i believe
[04:25] <starz> there are others: sudo apt-cache search gnutilla
[04:25] <starz> add in correct spellings
[04:25] <starz> gnutella?
[04:25] <not-Timmay> does anyone use GIMP?
[04:25] <starz> arg i always get that wrong sorry
[04:25] <not-Timmay> sorry...BlueFish
[04:26] <starz> not-Timmay, eh?
[04:26] <jussi01> not-Timmay: I have, whats the issue?
[04:26] <shane2peru> starz: can you copy lines 14 - 22 from your Fedora menu.lst into your edgy menu.lst at the very end, so as not to mess up any other lines.
[04:26] <mustasj> starz: I belive limewire is based on the gnutella network. I remember in earlier KDE days there was a client apollon, but it looks like it's out of development
[04:27] <not-Timmay> Is there a way I can pipe the document i'm working on from my computer to the server that hosts my website?
[04:27] <dwbell> hello, kubuntu 7.04 freezes randomly every few days. not under load, mouse pointer still moves. Any Idea where to start looking in the logs?
[04:27] <starz> mldonkey-server gtk-gnutella
[04:27] <starz> thats basically it mustasj i think
[04:27] <shane2peru> starz: did you get that?  Does that make sense?
[04:27] <starz> shane2peru, yeah/
[04:27] <starz> i get you but
[04:28] <starz> what about when i update stuff.
[04:28] <starz> is there no way to do a full redetect anymore?
[04:28] <starz> like i said there used to be but its had a history of messing up partitions
[04:28] <shane2peru> starz: backup that menu.lst and keep it, I'm not sure about updating it automagically.
[04:28] <mustasj> starz: I'll check thoose out, thanks
[04:28] <starz> and with the current alternate install disks it ends up reinstalling to dirty mount anyway
[04:28] <starz> mustasj, yeah
[04:28] <shane2peru> you are quadbooting man, you need to roll up your sleeves and get into the grub list yourself :)
[04:29] <starz> shane2peru, yeah
[04:29] <starz> i get u
[04:29] <starz> but i disagree.
[04:29] <starz> ubuntu has AWESOME detecting of other os's
[04:29] <starz> this should DEFINATELY be a feature
[04:29] <shane2peru> starz: there may be another way, but I'm really not sure :)
[04:29] <starz> =/
[04:30] <shane2peru> most users are not triple booting, much less quad booting :), they are average users, you are above average.
[04:30] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:30] <eagles0513875> i could be quad booting if i had the space
[04:30] <icecruncher> shane2peru: lol
[04:30] <eagles0513875> and not filling up my laptop with junk
[04:30] <shane2peru> eagles0513875: I used to triple boot, but it was too much work.  Dual is enough for me. :)
[04:30] <starz> shane2peru, im addicted to trying linux's
[04:30] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:30] <starz> thats why i quad boot
[04:30] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:31] <starz> was using arch linux for a bit
[04:31] <starz> dont really like it that much
[04:31] <starz> thinking about dsl-n
[04:31] <eagles0513875> im addicting to testing out new operating systems even if they r msft crap
[04:31] <starz> i try to try a new one every couple weeks or so
[04:31] <starz> lol eagles0513875
[04:31] <shane2peru> starz: I'm with you, I enjoy trying distros, but they are always going to be messing things up, so you are going to have to learn a lot of that stuff.
[04:31] <starz> yeah im lucky on space - 200 + 500gig drives
[04:31] <starz> shane2peru, im starting to think i need to ask devs
[04:32] <etalli> Why aren't we allowed to use colors
[04:32] <etalli> !colors
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about colors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:32] <icecruncher> starz: 200 500gigs?
[04:32] <shane2peru> starz: I have slowed down quite a bit now, booted into kubuntu this am, couldn't log in, Suse had messed up my /home directory. :)
[04:32] <eagles0513875> shane
[04:32] <eagles0513875> chunk suse
[04:32] <eagles0513875> its a resource hog
[04:32] <alvyn> hi, do somebody know something about installing/using nokia 6230i vith usb cable?
[04:32] <shane2peru> starz: I'm wondering if you should be a dev :) lol
[04:32] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: yep
[04:33] <eagles0513875> i got into suse with 9.0 then bought 10.0 and then found out bout the amazing kubuntu
[04:33] <eagles0513875> never want to try another linux distro again
[04:33] <icecruncher> eagles0513875: simmilar history
[04:33] <eagles0513875> plus ive found the most stable and most advanced 64bit operating system out there
[04:33] <eagles0513875> the best developed one too
[04:33] <shane2peru> eagles0513875: I'm trying 10.2, it isn't bad
[04:33] <icecruncher> shane2peru: I wonder about 10.3
[04:33] <icecruncher> :)
[04:34] <eagles0513875> ya but still u have to have a rather powerful system with it
[04:34] <starz> shane2peru, lol
[04:34] <shane2peru> starz: oh, if you can't boot into Fedora, when the grub menu comes up, you can manually edit lines by hitting 'e' on the line you want to edit.
[04:34] <starz> if i figure it out i'll post a howto
[04:35] <starz> naw itl work like that
[04:35] <starz> its just messy
[04:35] <shane2peru> starz: save you a bunch of time in re-booting
[04:35] <shane2peru> however write down what you get to work as it doesn't save it.
[04:36] <shane2peru> starz: what ever you do, don't re-order your grub menu list, always add others to the bottom, the top one gets overwritten with kernel upgrades.
[04:37] <shane2peru> starz: messy, If you don't like all those options, just comment a few out :) put a # sign before it.
[04:37] <shane2peru> makes it easy to add them back in later.
[04:38] <shane2peru> eagles0513875: yeah, I think Suse did run a little slower than Kubuntu.
[04:38] <etalli> !ping
[04:38] <ubotu> pong
[04:38] <sumigamer> guys when I ./configure something is it necessary to do it as root??
[04:38] <etalli> !ping
[04:38] <sonoftheclayr> sumigamer: don't do it as root
[04:38] <etalli> !botsnack
[04:38] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[04:38] <not-Timmay> jussi01: Is there a way I can pipe the document i'm working on from my computer to the server that hosts my website?
[04:39] <eagles0513875> trust me it does
[04:39] <jussi01> not-Timmay: like live?
[04:39] <not-Timmay> yea
[04:39] <jussi01> i dont think so, but i could be wrong...
[04:39] <eagles0513875> im on a 2ghz athlon 64 machine and i have the same in my desktop
[04:39] <eagles0513875> 512mb of ram in there
[04:39] <not-Timmay> hmmm yea i think you're right
[04:39] <not-Timmay> i'll stick with KATE
[04:39] <eagles0513875> takes long to install the os and lode into gnome or kde
[04:39] <eagles0513875> not-Timmay: try nano
[04:40] <shane2peru> eagles0513875: I'm on a 3GHZ with 512MB ram
[04:40] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:40] <icecruncher> or the mousepad or whatever from xubuntu
[04:40] <eagles0513875> well ive overclocked my desktop to 2.9
[04:40] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:40] <eagles0513875> on stock aircooling
[04:40] <shane2peru> I forget the processor, it is rather new though,
[04:40] <shane2peru> oh, Petnium D, it's a sticker on the box :)
[04:40] <shane2peru> the sticker is on the box :)
[04:41] <shane2peru> I'm going to upgrade the ram to 1GB though.
[04:41] <not-Timmay> is there also something that can scan for errors and tell me what the issues is? my webpage works fine for FireFix but when it's launched in IE I get a lot of errors and when I check the line and col it doesn't make sense
[04:41] <icecruncher> shane2peru: try /sysinfo in konversation
[04:41] <shane2peru> icecruncher: in konversation or terminal?
[04:41] <icecruncher> shane2peru: konversation
[04:41] <shane2peru> Sysinfo for 'shane-desktop': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)DCPU3.00GHz at 2400 MHz (5994 bogomips), , RAM: 488/493MB, 143 proc's, 1.19h up
[04:42] <shane2peru> icecruncher: that is cool
[04:42] <shane2peru> icecruncher: there must be a list of those commands around somewhere?
[04:42] <icecruncher> shane2peru: setting -> configure konversation
[04:42] <starz> gah?
[04:43] <starz> shane2peru, no its not that
[04:43] <icecruncher> shane2peru: then command aliases
[04:43] <starz> there should be an option to redetect everything.
[04:43] <starz> say you have the linux-386 package in
[04:43] <shane2peru> icecruncher: found them, thanks
[04:43] <shane2peru> starz: what happened?
[04:43] <icecruncher> shane2peru: np
[04:43] <starz> thats just gonna keep the latest 386 kernel in and if you dont trim it youll end up with quite a few
[04:43] <starz> oh im gonna check out supergrubdisk
[04:44] <starz> mm
[04:44] <starz> actually nope doesnt work
[04:44] <starz> darn
[04:44] <shane2peru> starz: oh yeah, I forgot about supergrubdisk, backup your current menu.lst though.
[04:44] <shane2peru> starz: don't loose what you have :)
[04:45] <shane2peru> starz: what error did it give you?
[04:45] <starz> o thellwith it
[04:45] <starz> im gonna try this other other OTHER method
[04:45] <starz> i'll be back in about 10 minutes either way
[04:45] <starz> well
[04:45] <starz> if it goes bad more like 45
[04:46] <sumigamer> guys when I ./configure super karamba, it says that Qt (  >=Qt 3.3 and <4.0) and to check the headers and libraries
[04:47] <sumigamer> guys when I ./configure super karamba, it says that Qt (  >=Qt 3.3 and <4.0) and to check the headers and libraries
[04:48] <pag> sumigamer, is there some reason, why you want to install from outside the repos?
[04:48] <sumigamer> pag, can I download that from the repos??
[04:48] <pag> !info superkaramba
[04:48] <ubotu> superkaramba: a program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 533 kB, installed size 1428 kB
[04:49] <ksivaji> !pastebin
[04:49] <pag> sumigamer, remember to make sure you have universe enabled :)
[04:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:50] <sumigamer> pag, how  do I enable universe in adept??
[04:50] <pag> !universe | sumigamer
[04:50] <ubotu> sumigamer: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:50] <khaije1> i'm looking for widgets to display system info on kubuntu. I've used karamba and liked it, but is there anything that is optimized for beryl?
[04:51] <ksivaji> please someone answer for my general question http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27962/
[04:52] <graham> Hey, is there anyway I can make a sort of login script so that when a user logs in it mounts a samba share with their username
[04:53] <icecruncher> lol you see the no download limit?
[04:53] <icecruncher> nm
[04:53] <llutz> ksivaji: when using tcp/ip data isn't encrypted by default, it's just splitted  to fit the paket-size
[04:55] <llutz> ksivaji: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCPIP
[04:55] <ksivaji> llutz thanks
[04:56] <SillyZ> gmornin, Im a cable-modem user/subscriber and under windows I had to use a program called TCPOptimize to get the proper tcpip setting to obtain full speed from my isp, ive done a few tests here in kubuntu and it seems I need to do the same again , any such application for linux like winblows' tcpoptimize?
[04:56] <manu_> hi i wanted to create a small flashmovie is this possible with linux? without this macromedia windows commercial software?
[04:57] <manu_> i didnt found any software
[04:57] <llutz> SillyZ: 1. it's called windows 2. use ifconfig or ip
[04:57] <manu_> only heard something about it with openoffice but didnt found it
[04:57] <shane2peru> manu_: I think that OpenOffice Presentation can export to flash
[04:57] <shane2peru> I think you have to export to a flash file, never done it though.
[04:58] <SillyZ> llutz: well yes, i know its called whinhosed , I guess Ill have to take a look at what tcpoptimize did for exact configuration of the tcpip stack and then bring that similiar config over to kubuntu
[04:58] <manu_> shane2peru: yap have seen it but its only i frame without animation and my  aim is to put single frames ov a blender rendering movie in flash behind each other (like a gif animation) with transaprent background
[04:58] <dr_willis> In theory you could figure out what settings it set on windows. and set them under linux by hand.
[04:59] <dr_willis> about all it could set i think would be the mtu, and a few other things.  Aint tweaked that stuff in years.
[04:59] <SillyZ> aye dr_willis
[04:59] <SillyZ> it was mainly the tcp_receive window that got opened up iirc , mtu was 1500
[05:00] <dr_willis> heck - i forget even how to set that stuff under linux now.
[05:00] <ksivaji> shane2peru is it possible to create presentation movie with openoffice
[05:00] <shane2peru> manu_: these are more video, but I thought I saw something under one of these:  Kino or avidemux
[05:01] <shane2peru> ksivaji: not sure about that, I would check those two programs I just posted.
[05:01] <SillyZ> hows about flash player under kubuntu w/ thunderbird ? -- Ive installed it, plugins are in /home/name/.mozillia/plugins but still no go
[05:02] <shane2peru> ksivaji: or qdvdauthor
[05:02] <manu_> shane2peru: hm and terhe is no tool like macromedia flash? not available for a such big distribution
[05:02] <dr_willis> all ive ever done is apt-get install the flash stuff. and it works for me under firefox. and Konqueror but not opera. :)
[05:02] <manu_> i cant this flash speech and im not a friend of flash but i need a small movie
[05:02] <to6eto> haw to install kde 4 ?
[05:02] <shane2peru> manu_: not really sure, I don't work with flash much check here: http://www.linuxalt.com/
[05:02] <manu_> only frame after frame, pixelgraphics
[05:03] <to6eto> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php
[05:03] <to6eto> hmm ?
[05:03] <shane2peru> manu_: one of those video programs I recommended lets you add pictures and make a movie out of still frames.
[05:05] <SillyZ> whats the apt-get package name for macromedias' flash player anyone?
[05:05] <ksivaji> is there any thing in linux like windows movie maker?
[05:05] <dr_willis> !flash
[05:05] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:05] <llutz> SillyZ: flashplugin-nonfree
[05:05] <manu_> shane2peru: one of those... which? both?
[05:05] <shane2peru> ksivaji: I think kino is the closest thing to movie maker
[05:05] <SillyZ> thanks
[05:05] <manu_> and is it easy?
[05:05] <manu_> or have i first read some tutorials
[05:06] <shane2peru> manu_: I really don't remember I was making something else and noticed it.
[05:06] <mios> alguien habla castellano?
[05:06] <shane2peru> manu_: I think it is kino
[05:07] <llutz> manu_: ManDVD, ManSlide,but both are not in the repos
[05:07] <shane2peru> !spanish
[05:07] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:07] <SillyZ> hmmm well that didnt work, flashplugin-nonfree, is that for Konq? or firebird?
[05:07] <manu_> llutz: i prefer a program like adobe photoshop ime
[05:07] <shane2peru> mios: si hablo espaol, pero es mi segunda idioma :)
[05:07] <manu_> imageready but for flash
[05:07] <llutz> manu_: gimp
[05:08] <manu_> or like the big macromedia suite
[05:08] <llutz> manu_: then use windows
[05:09] <mios> shane2peru: necesito ayuda con adept manager
[05:09] <manu_> llutz: i like linux very much and tehre is alternative for every thing even crap^^ and there is no reasonable flash software?
[05:09] <SillyZ> ok it seems its working in konq, but unable to click on anything once a flash is loaded, but firefox still gets nothing
[05:09] <shane2peru> mios: estoy aprendiendo KDE, entonces puedo tratar de ayudarte, pero no te prometo nada. :)
[05:09] <dr_willis> flash software - to make flash? call the makers of flash and complaine..
[05:09] <mios> shane2peru: no puedo instalar nada
[05:09] <llutz> manu_: flash is proprietary crap
[05:09] <dr_willis> If they wont write it.. well.....
[05:09] <BluesKaj_> WTH is going on with freenode ..it rejects my nick saying it's already in use when it isn't
[05:09] <dr_willis> if they wont license the specs/info to do it...
[05:10] <icecruncher> they have a linux version... coding only though
[05:10] <icecruncher> for flash
[05:10] <Pazy> Can someone help me, im new to kubuntu and after i updated it (using the full update option on Adept package manager thing) I cant get to the desktop
[05:10] <dr_willis> ive always wished flash would just DIE off. :)
[05:10] <dr_willis> seen it used badly - in too many bad ways.
[05:10] <icecruncher> yes
[05:11] <manu_> llutz: yes i know, i make websites without flashsupport  and it has many diadvatages, but now i have to make a little movie
[05:11] <shane2peru> mios: eso no es bien, no estoy seguro de esto.  quizas en #kubuntu-es encuentras ayuda, pues no se mucho sobre adept.
[05:11] <dr_willis> Then theres ' Homestarrunner.com '    :0
[05:11] <mios> shane2peru: ok muchas gracias :-)
[05:11] <shane2peru> mios: o si hablas ingles pregunta aqui
[05:11] <icecruncher> haha
[05:11] <manu_> and i dont have the macromedia suite so i have to download it illegally to make this stupid video :(
[05:11] <shane2peru> mios: de nada.
[05:11] <mios> mi ingles es muy pobre :(
[05:11] <eagles0513875> mios solo ingles aqui por favor
[05:11] <dr_willis> i wonder if ffmpeg can convert avi to flash.
[05:11] <eagles0513875> !es
[05:11] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:12] <eagles0513875> para ti mios
[05:12] <manu_> mios: hablo tambien espanol
[05:12] <icecruncher> dr_willis: I hate flash based websites expecially
[05:12] <icecruncher> nasty
[05:12] <dr_willis> icecruncher,  im finding more and more web sites taht i cant even print. :( which is annoying.
[05:12] <ksivaji> !kino
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kino - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <eagles0513875> manu i mios por favor usar espanol por favor
[05:12] <eagles0513875> !es
[05:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:13] <icecruncher> dr_willis: oh yeah, tell me about it lol
[05:13] <dr_willis> No Hoblo.
[05:13] <shane2peru> eagles0513875: there is never anyone in the Spanish rooms. :)
[05:13] <eagles0513875> i dont mean to be mean but in the rules this is strictly an english room
[05:13] <shane2peru> I just checked it out, and there are five people
[05:14] <shane2peru> eagles0513875: understood.
[05:14] <eagles0513875> dont take it personally shane2peru
[05:14] <shane2peru> starz: and how did it go?
[05:14] <dr_willis> i can rember like 4 phrases from my Spanish 101 class.
[05:14] <dr_willis> :)
[05:14] <Pazy> Can someone help me, im new to kubuntu and after i updated it (using the full update option on Adept package manager thing) I cant get to the desktop
[05:14] <dr_willis> 2 of which can get your face slapped... :)
[05:14] <shane2peru> eagles0513875: no problem, I joined the spanish room :)
[05:15] <eagles0513875> u in there 2
[05:15] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:15] <dr_willis> Pazy,  so it worked.. then after the update, it stopped loading the KDM login manager?
[05:15] <shane2peru> dr_willis: yeah, probably better stick to the English room then :) lol
[05:15] <user_> /server ir.lv
[05:15] <BluesKaj_> dr_willis, any other reports of ppl with registered nicks having trouble logging on to freenode ?
[05:15] <eagles0513875> nope
[05:15] <dr_willis> BluesKaj_,  not that i have seen
[05:16] <eagles0513875> i havent had any problems today
[05:16] <BluesKaj_> weird
[05:16] <icecruncher> nope
[05:16] <eagles0513875> u having trouble
[05:16] <BluesKaj_> nothing but probs
[05:16] <eagles0513875> ?
[05:16] <Pazy> It worked (including turning off/on over a couple of days) then I updated and i get the bootloader and a Kubuntu logo/loading bar then a flashing underscore then nothing
[05:16] <manu_> llutz: still here?
[05:16] <eagles0513875> !ops
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[05:16] <llutz> manu_: yes
[05:16] <eagles0513875> any ops having problems logging in to freenode
[05:16] <icecruncher> BluesKaj_: what probs?
[05:17] <BluesKaj_> freenode rejects my login due my nick already in use , when it's not
[05:17] <eagles0513875> ohhhhhhhh
[05:17] <LongPointyStick> ?
[05:17] <eagles0513875> that is whats called a ghost
[05:17] <icecruncher> !ghost | BluesKaj_
[05:17] <ubotu> BluesKaj_: On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>
[05:17] <eagles0513875> ya
[05:17] <eagles0513875> lol
[05:17] <manu_> llutz: you say i shall use windoze but i want so i'm not able to create a little flashmovie still  containing images
[05:17] <eagles0513875> that is what u gotta do blues lol that happened to me once before
[05:17] <BluesKaj_> eagles0513875, thx
[05:17] <eagles0513875> no prob
[05:17] <shane2peru> does anyone know where to find my liblamemp3.so file for Audacity?
[05:18] <BluesKaj_> icecruncher, dr_willis, thx
[05:18] <icecruncher> mp
[05:18] <icecruncher> *no
[05:18] <icecruncher> agh np
[05:18] <obelix_> #ubuntu
[05:18] <shane2peru> nevermind, found it :)
[05:18] <llutz> manu_: i said: if you need win-apps you should use windows. and if there aren't linux-alternatives for your needs, you'll need win-apps. flash doesn't like free software :)
[05:19] <eagles0513875> blues did that help
[05:20] <manu_> llutz: yeah i changed many applications of windoze  to opensource ones but dont know if terhe is a software for my needs, i'm only wondering that many apps export to flashs but none seems to work like a gif animator
[05:20] <dr_willis> I think ive seen png animation features, (and gif animation?) in GIMP
[05:21] <icecruncher> Hey BluesKaj
[05:21] <BluesKaj> hi icecruncher
[05:21] <dr_willis> they take a set of images and smoosh them into a animated file. :)
[05:21] <kazoobuntu> manu_: http://www.debugmode.com/wink/ may provide a roundabout way of doing what you ask - you could use avidemux or mencoder to create an AVI movie, then play it while screencapturing with wink.  Not robust, but ok for a one shot deal.
[05:21] <elcuco> hi, anyone else sseing that katapult is taking 100% constantly?
[05:21] <llutz> manu_: convert (imagemagick) might create animated-gifs
[05:21] <dr_willis> 'smoosh' = technical term for 'some how i dont understand'
[05:21] <dr_willis> heh.
[05:21] <llutz> manu_: but no idea, how to convert that into flash
[05:22] <BluesKaj> tried that google desktop for linux ...not recommended ...total fiasco, tied up my pc ans stalled everything ...don't think it's recommended for feisty anyway
[05:22] <dr_willis> Converting AVI video to SWF using FFMPEG Scout and SWF Scout
[05:22] <icecruncher> lol
[05:22] <icecruncher> !worksforme
[05:22] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:22] <dr_willis> http://www.bytescout.com/ffmpegscout_avi_to_swf.html
[05:22] <icecruncher> I works for me!
[05:23] <dr_willis> !willworkforfood.
[05:23] <icecruncher> lol
[05:23] <llutz> BluesKaj: google-desktop: why should i show an us-company all my data? :)
[05:24] <manu_> kazoobuntu: dr_willis hm i dont have a movie just single pictures with alpha value and like creating a gif i wnat to make a flash cause i have more than 256 colors and nicer transaprency
[05:24] <manu_> it shall be like a gif animation with png
[05:24] <BluesKaj> there's a nondisclosure option which most ppl will use , i'm sure
[05:25] <nicolas> hello!
[05:25] <llutz> BluesKaj: and you would trust it?
[05:25] <icecruncher> hi nicolas
[05:25] <dr_willis> ocnvert it to avi, then to flash.. of course.. if you can make an animated gif/png out of it. why not use that instead.. but  i guess it all depends on your needs.
[05:25] <icecruncher> llutz: I do, dont really care though, nothing important
[05:26] <llutz> icecruncher: it's not a question of"important or not"
[05:27] <icecruncher> llutz: I mena, they won't know anything important
[05:27] <manu_> dr_willis:  png supports animation?
[05:27] <manu_> i need it for websites
[05:27] <nicolas> i've a pb, again... i'm intalling FullSync but I can't edit fullsync.sh they say i haven't the right
[05:27] <manu_> so the best way would be swf, cause gif gets to big and has less colors
[05:27] <nicolas> do you how can i make it work?
[05:28] <dr_willis> Im pretty sure there was sone animaged png thing..