[01:53] <zxq9> Hrm... I got a signature validation error on update today. The irqbalance package is either unsigned or has the wrong signature. Anyone else get that?
[01:54] <zxq9> I'm wondering if its just the mirror I happened to pull from, or a broader issue.
[03:27] <username_> Hey I'm having some trouble with kdewallet. When I try to connect to my VPN through the network manager, I get a popup from KDE Wallet Service that says "The application 'kded5' has requested to open the wallet 'kdewallet'. Please enter the password for this wallet below.", and when I enter the password (and I'm sure that it's the right password, I've tried 10+ times now), I get the error "Error opening the wallet '
[03:27] <username_> kdewallet'. Please try again. (Error code -9: Read error - possibly incorrect password.)" I looked online and it said that I just had to delete the entire wallet because it had become corrupted, but that didn't help. Also, it still happens when I change the default wallet from "kdewallet" to another wallet. Does anyone have experience with this?
[03:30] <username_> Also, second problem, I have a monitor that is vertical (turned on its side), and while I can make this orientation happen in KDE, I can't get the wallpaper to work quite right on it. No matter what option I try, I get the bottom half being black.
[03:36] <username_> Anybody?
[03:48] <ahoneybun> romeo_s: you have to get a wallpaper in that new size
[03:49] <ahoneybun> ie 1920 x 1080 would change to 1080 x 1920 once you put it on it's side
[03:51] <romeo_s> yeah ahoneybun I tried that but had the same problem. It fixed when I logged out and in though. Do you know anything about the errors I'm getting with kdewallet?
[03:52] <ahoneybun> I have no exp with VPN sadly
[03:52] <romeo_s> Yeah the problem isn't specifically with the VPN, it's with kwallet. I get the same problem at the "migrate your wallet from kde4 to kde5" prompt when I enter the wallet password (even though I have never had a kde4 wallet in my life)
[03:53] <ahoneybun> Yea I get it even from a fresh fresh install
[03:54] <ahoneybun> kwallet is weird in general
[03:54] <romeo_s> Do you get the error code about not being able to open the wallet file?
[03:54] <ahoneybun> it tells me about wrong password, ( I put in the wrong passward)
[03:55] <romeo_s> Yeah except I'm 100% sure that I'm putting in my password correctly. I even went in and changed the password and copy-pasted it into the field but still no luck
[03:55] <romeo_s> I'm able to open the wallet in kwalletmanger, but nowhere else it seems
[03:56] <romeo_s> What's even weirder is that I've changed what the default wallet is, but it still tries to use the wallet named "kdewallet" instead of "romeosWallet"
[03:56] <ahoneybun> I heard that kwalletmanager is for kded4 kwallet
[03:56] <ahoneybun> I might be wrong
[03:56] <romeo_s> Oh? Is there a manager for kded5 wallet?
[03:57] <ahoneybun> not sure as it is a ongoing process
[03:57] <INSANU> hello, anyone having problems to shutdown with kubuntu 15.04?
[03:57] <ahoneybun> INSANU: yea a bit here sometimes
[03:57] <ahoneybun> there is a fix coming in the next Plasma update
[03:57] <ahoneybun> 5.3.2
[03:57] <INSANU> is there any solution?:
[03:57] <ahoneybun> INSANU: not that I know of, just from the 5.3.2 update
[03:58] <INSANU> how can i make that update ahoney?
[03:58] <INSANU> =)
[03:58] <ahoneybun> INSANU: it is being packaged by our lovely devs as well speak
[03:58] <ahoneybun> watch the kubuntu website for updates
[03:59] <ahoneybun> INSANU: I've noticed a bit better with 5.3.1 which is in the backports already
[03:59] <ahoneybun> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-531
[03:59] <ahoneybun> backports have the newest releases that are not in the main repos because of the release cycle
[04:00] <INSANU> ahoneybun: should i add that ppa?
[04:01] <ahoneybun> INSANU: it is safe
[04:02] <ahoneybun> fresh 15.04 has Plasma 5.2.2 and the Backport PPA will bring it up to 5.3.1
[04:03] <INSANU> so
[04:03] <INSANU> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade?
[04:04] <ahoneybun> after you add the PPA yes :)
[04:05] <INSANU> i hope that helps a bit =)
[04:05] <INSANU> thank you ahoneybun
[04:05] <ahoneybun> me too :)
[04:05] <ahoneybun> np INSANU
[04:07] <ahoneybun> feel free to hang around INSANU and romeo_s
[04:07] <ahoneybun> someone with more info then me might wake up
[04:08] <INSANU> sure thanks
[04:08] <INSANU> =)
[04:09] <ahoneybun> yep :)
[04:14] <pr0metheu5> I just installed Kubuntu 15.04 and I'm getting a login loop, where after logging in, it just goes to the splash screen loading, and immediately back to the login screen. Either this, or it just logs in to a light grey screen and cursor, nothing else.
[04:14] <pr0metheu5> Any ideas?
[04:15] <ahoneybun> could be a driver issue
[04:15] <ahoneybun> pr0metheu5: are you using the free drivers?
[04:16] <pr0metheu5> I haven't had a chance to actually ever log in to download drivers or do anything, it was a fresh install
[04:17] <pr0metheu5> I believe the issue is related to video as well, though, I have since gotten into terminal and downloaded updates and upgrades hoping this would fix the issue
[04:18] <pr0metheu5> ahoneybun, should I maybe try installing bumblebee via terminal, or something?
[04:19] <ahoneybun> pr0metheu5: not bumbleebee unless you have the setup unless you need it
[04:19] <ahoneybun> but the free drivers should work
[04:19] <pr0metheu5> ahoneybun, how do I check what drivers I am using?
[04:19] <pr0metheu5> my laptop has nvidia optimus, so I figured maybe bumblebee would help
[04:19] <ahoneybun> hop over to a tty, update, upgrade and reboot
[04:19] <pr0metheu5> I did that already, ahoneybun
[04:19] <ahoneybun> pr0metheu5: oh you have the dual graphics?
[04:20] <ahoneybun> intel + NVIDIA
[04:20] <pr0metheu5> yes
[04:20] <pr0metheu5> that is exactly what it is, ahoneybun
[04:20] <ahoneybun> pr0metheu5: ok was not sure of what cards you have
[04:21] <ahoneybun> optimus is bit of a hit and miss tbh
[04:21] <ahoneybun> I have it and it is working pretty good
[04:21] <pr0metheu5> >_< bullocks ..
[04:21] <pr0metheu5> it was working fine with the live cd
[04:21] <pr0metheu5> I downloaded updates while installing, hope that didn't cause the problem
[04:22] <pr0metheu5> but if that were the case, that would mean it would break whenever I did update, whether pre install or post
[04:22] <ahoneybun> I usually just download the things for mp3 and flash support
[04:22] <ahoneybun> and update later
[04:22] <pr0metheu5> yeah, I usually do just that too, but I was feeling lucky this time
[04:22] <pr0metheu5> lol
[04:22] <ahoneybun> lol
[04:23] <pr0metheu5> thanks for the help though!
[04:23] <ahoneybun> pr0metheu5: of course :)
[04:23] <pr0metheu5> Do you think I would run into the same issue on another distro? I hate to say it, but kubuntu seems pretty unstable if I can't get past login on a fresh install
[04:23] <ahoneybun> I can't think a Ubuntu based one would be different
[04:24] <ahoneybun> Ubuntu seems to have the best driver support tbh
[04:24] <pr0metheu5> Neither can I, which is unfortunate, but I'm gonna try Linux Mint next to see if it works or not
[04:24] <ahoneybun> I mean they all use the same drivers
[04:24] <pr0metheu5> Yes! I was gonna install Fedora, I can't imagine how terrible that experience would have been
[04:24] <ahoneybun> pr0metheu5: the nonfree one would not even be there out of the box
[04:24] <ahoneybun> you would have to add another repo to even install it
[04:24] <pr0metheu5> Lol, I'm kinda tempted to try and install it and see what happens
[04:25] <pr0metheu5> If I remember correctly, the mousepad scroll didn't work when I ran it off the  live cd
[04:25] <ahoneybun> openSUSE has the cool one-click install option
[04:25] <ahoneybun> and I think they support the optimus setup
[04:25] <ahoneybun> not sure as I have not tested it
[04:25] <pr0metheu5> I've never used opensuse, it's not deb based, is it?
[04:25] <ahoneybun> rpm
[04:26] <pr0metheu5> maybe I'll give that a shot
[04:26] <ahoneybun> well it is not Debian based
[04:26] <ahoneybun> it uses RPM over DEB packages
[04:26] <pr0metheu5> like fedora
[04:26] <ahoneybun> yes
[04:26] <ahoneybun> pr0metheu5: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_Bumblebee
[04:27] <pr0metheu5> I'm also kinda tempted to just play it safe and install linux mint, but I would hate myself
[04:27] <pr0metheu5> linux mint makes me feel dirty lol and I can't explain why! haha
[04:27] <ahoneybun> lol
[04:27] <pr0metheu5> it's so weird
[04:27] <ahoneybun> pr0metheu5: it does not hurt to try
[04:27] <pr0metheu5> I'm gonna go to #linuxmint and ask them why that is
[04:28] <ahoneybun> I have Kubuntu on one laptop, Tanglu (Debian based) and Arch on another
[04:28] <pr0metheu5> Arch, lol
[04:28] <ahoneybun> yep
[04:28] <pr0metheu5> I'm soooo tempted to get into that
[04:28] <ahoneybun> it has good old BIOS no UEFI
[04:28] <ahoneybun> so it was easier
[04:28] <pr0metheu5> aah
[04:28] <pr0metheu5> see, I don't even know what that means
[04:28] <ahoneybun> you learn a lot with Arch
[04:28] <pr0metheu5> but I get what you mean, lol
[04:29] <pr0metheu5> I feel like I should learn Arch and then just put it on my resume
[04:29] <ahoneybun> UEFI and BIOS are the tech used to boot the machine
[04:29] <ahoneybun> BIOS is the old old one
[04:29] <pr0metheu5> I do know what uefi and bios are, but I'm unfamiliar with how they relate to Arch
[04:29] <ahoneybun> UEFI is new  ( I think 3 or so years old)
[04:29] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[04:29] <pr0metheu5> does Arch not play well with one or the other?
[04:29] <pr0metheu5> aaah
[04:29] <pr0metheu5> it doesn't play well with uefi
[04:30] <ahoneybun> well UEFI needs its own partition formated as fat32
[04:30] <ahoneybun> Ubuntu does it well now
[04:31] <ahoneybun> pr0metheu5: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Boot_loaders#Both_BIOS_and_UEFI_boot_loaders
[04:31] <pr0metheu5> I have one more question; what does TTY stand for?
[04:32] <ahoneybun> http://askubuntu.com/questions/481906/what-does-tty-stand-for
[04:33] <ahoneybun> tbh I did not know the meaning either just how to use it
[04:33] <ahoneybun> lol
[04:34] <ahoneybun> it is the only thing you have to use in Arch in the beginning pr0metheu5
[04:35] <pr0metheu5> yeah, that is scary to me
[04:35] <pr0metheu5> so you start by building from ground up, right?
[04:35] <ahoneybun> yep
[04:35] <pr0metheu5> sounds like an amazing process
[04:35] <ahoneybun> you get nothing but the TTY
[04:35] <pr0metheu5> one which would make you feel like a new man at the end of it
[04:35] <ahoneybun> yea :)
[04:35] <ahoneybun> I learned a lot from it
[04:36] <ahoneybun> new commands, partitioning, and terms
[04:36] <pr0metheu5> I still haven't taken the time to learn partitioning
[04:36] <pr0metheu5> still use the install wizard
[04:37] <ahoneybun> pr0metheu5: I do the manual one as I can make a /home parition in case something goes wrong on a install (ie. install a driver, build a kernel)
[04:37] <pr0metheu5> yeah
[04:37] <pr0metheu5> I've heard that too
[04:37] <ahoneybun> pr0metheu5: https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu
[04:38] <ahoneybun> a Manual :)
[04:38] <pr0metheu5> I want to use Kubuntu so I can support them in some way
[04:38] <pr0metheu5> they seem to not be doing as well as they used to, which kinda sucks
[04:38] <pr0metheu5> I remember when Ubuntu and Kubuntu were like the most popular two distros
[04:38] <ahoneybun> pr0metheu5: you can go over the Manual and look for something we might have missed or something that could be more simplier
[04:38] <pr0metheu5> cool!
[04:39] <ahoneybun> We could always use some fresh new eyes and ideas :)
[04:39] <pr0metheu5> I'm trying something right now to fix my issue, I'll let you know what it was if it works
[04:39] <ahoneybun> ok cool
[04:48] <pr0metheu5> ahoneybun, it worked, I just had to reinstall the drivers and nvidia prime as outlined here http://askubuntu.com/questions/614649/kubuntu-15-04-nvidia-optimus/645353#645353
[04:48] <ahoneybun> so all from the TTY pr0metheu5?
[04:48] <pr0metheu5> yup yup ahoneybun
[04:48] <ahoneybun> wait wait
[04:49] <ahoneybun> that is my laptop model lol
[04:49] <pr0metheu5> no way lol
[04:49] <ahoneybun> yea
[04:49] <pr0metheu5> that's funny
[04:49] <ahoneybun> yea
[04:49] <pr0metheu5> how come you didn't have that problem lol
[04:49] <pr0metheu5> oh you're not running kubuntu? lol
[04:50] <ahoneybun> pr0metheu5: remember to upvote that answer
[04:50] <ahoneybun> I am on this machine
[04:50] <ahoneybun> though that post is from 2 months ago
[04:50] <pr0metheu5> I shall sign up them
[04:50] <pr0metheu5> then*
[04:50] <ahoneybun> pr0metheu5: so other users know what works :)
[04:51]  * ahoneybun does it as well
[04:51] <ahoneybun> pr0metheu5: did you come in here from watching the Kubuntu Podcast?
[04:51] <pr0metheu5> not really
[04:51] <pr0metheu5> there's a kubuntu podcast?
[04:51] <ahoneybun> today has been more busy then I remember it being
[04:51] <ahoneybun> yep
[04:52] <ahoneybun>  #kubuntu-podcast
[04:55] <JunkHunk> Hi, could anyone help me get internet connection on a computer running kubuntu with two bridged network adapters?
[05:07] <other_guy> is anyone here running Kubuntu 15.04?
[05:08] <other_guy> i'm going nuts trying to figure out why it is that when I assign keyboard shortcuts to Meta+something in most apps it doesn't work.
[05:08] <other_guy> It doesn't work in Konversation, Konsole, Kate, etc.
[05:08] <other_guy> It let's me assign it, but when I try to use them they don't work at all
[05:09] <ahoneybun> I'm reading your comments now other_guy
[05:09] <ahoneybun> I'm on 15.04 but have not messed with keyboard shortcuts
[05:09] <ahoneybun> I'll try now
[05:10] <ahoneybun> other_guy: are you setting keys to launch apps or do something in an app?
[05:10] <other_guy> Like try to set Copy and Paste in Konsole to be Meta+C and Meta+V
[05:10] <other_guy> to do something in the app
[05:11] <other_guy> Like Meta+Q for quit in Konversation just types a "q" when i use it.
[05:11] <other_guy> Meta+F for finding text just types an "f"
[05:11] <other_guy> In Kate the problem is even worse.
[05:13] <ahoneybun> I can't get it to work right
[05:14] <ahoneybun> not like what you said but I'm a bit sleepy anyway
[05:14] <other_guy> It's bizarre
[05:14] <ahoneybun> Meta+P pops out some info
[05:16] <other_guy> in what app?
[05:16] <ahoneybun> Konsole
[05:18]  * ahoneybun sleeps
[05:20] <other_guy> Try the copy/paste thing
[08:23] <JunkHunk> TJ- I managed to delete eth0 but when sudo ip route add default dev br0 via <IP_ADDRESS> I get RTNETLINK answers:File exists
[08:23] <TJ-> JunkHunk: So does "ip route show" list a default route on br0 ?
[08:23] <JunkHunk> No
[08:24] <TJ-> JunkHunk: Is there any other "default" route?
[08:24] <JunkHunk> Eth0... I guess
[08:24] <JunkHunk> That didnt change after deleting eth0
[08:25] <TJ-> JunkHunk: How many ethernet interfaces does the PC have, and how many are in the bridge?
[08:25] <JunkHunk> Eth0 and eth1
[08:25] <JunkHunk> Both
[08:26] <JunkHunk> Br0 is made of eth0 and eth1
[08:27] <TJ-> JunkHunk: OK, something weird there if the system won't accept a route on br0.
[08:27] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:28] <JunkHunk> Too old network adapter perhaps?
[08:29] <TJ-> JunkHunk: no, something about the configuration itself. It's hard to think it through without hands-on though
[08:29] <JunkHunk> Oh
[08:29] <JunkHunk> There is something more I did...
[08:29] <TJ-> JunkHunk: Does "brctl show" list eth0 eth1 as interfaces to br0 ?
[08:30] <JunkHunk> I added virtual adapters to br0 up to nine or ten
[08:31] <JunkHunk> I reverted the config in order to gain internet access again... I will try that command in the next attempt
[08:35] <JunkHunk> TJ- I am doing this to get an extra port to connect my lacking wifi computer to a wireless network printer
[08:36] <lordievader> JunkHunk: Did you setup the br0 through /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:36] <JunkHunk> Yes
[08:36] <lordievader> JunkHunk: Could you pastebin your config?
[08:36] <JunkHunk> It would save time yes...
[08:37] <JunkHunk> I cannot easily do it now...
[08:37] <JunkHunk> The point is the bridge is working I can ping the printer plugged to eth1 now...but no internet
[08:38] <JunkHunk> This is a tablet irc app
[08:38] <lordievader> JunkHunk: Pastebinit?
[08:38] <lordievader> !info pastebinit
[08:39] <TJ-> JunkHunk: does "arp -n" list the gatewy's IP address on eth0 ?
[08:40] <JunkHunk> Hey brctl show output is:
[08:40] <TJ-> JunkHunk: (or on br0 of course)
[08:40] <JunkHunk> Bridge name br0
[08:41] <TJ-> JunkHunk: "Brctl show" should be something like "br0             8000.000000000000       no eth0 eth1"
[08:41] <JunkHunk> Bridge id a chain numbers and characers
[08:41] <JunkHunk> Yep
[08:41] <JunkHunk> No eth0 eth1
[08:41] <TJ-> JunkHunk: with "eth0 eth1"
[08:41] <TJ-> JunkHunk: So right now there are no interfaces connected to the bridge then
[08:41] <JunkHunk> Yes exactly
[08:42] <TJ-> JunkHunk: And does the PC have Internet right now?
[08:42] <JunkHunk> No internet
[08:42] <lordievader> Are interfaces eth0 and eth1 managed by something else?
[08:42] <TJ-> JunkHunk: probably because the default route hasn't been put bakc on eth0
[08:43] <JunkHunk> Ip route list tells default via 192.1681.1 dev eth0 proto static
[08:44] <lordievader> Can you ping the gateway?
[08:44] <JunkHunk> Yes
[08:44] <lordievader> DNS problem then?
[08:44] <TJ-> JunkHunk: manual setup would be: "sudo brctl addif br0 eth0 && sudo brctl addif br0 eth1" To get an IP address assigned to br0 over DHCP from the router "sudo dhclient& br0"
[08:44] <JunkHunk> Thats what I first thought
[08:45] <lordievader> TJ-: Shouldn't the & be after br0?
[08:45] <TJ-> lordievader: oops!
[08:45] <TJ-> JunkHunk: ... the router "sudo dhclient br0 &"
[08:46] <lordievader> Besides dhclient forks after it gotten an ip anyways, the & isn't really needed ;)
[08:46] <TJ-> I like to put it out the way whilst I get on with things
[08:47] <TJ-> On currrent state I'm not convinced it'll get an IP :)
[08:47] <TJ-> Everything has been done manually from a guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[08:48] <JunkHunk> Decieve eth0 is already a member of a bridge cant enslave it to bridge br0
[08:48] <TJ-> JunkHunk: came into #ubuntu earlier when he hit issues
[08:48] <TJ-> JunkHunk: Huh? you said that "brctl show" didn't list "eth 0 eth1" as attached interfaces?
[08:49] <JunkHunk> Brctl shows under interfaces eth0 and eth1 and under stp enabled there is a no in eth0 line
[08:50] <JunkHunk> I ll post my interfaces file
[08:50] <JunkHunk> Give five minutes
[09:01] <JustinCase> TJ- here is my network interfaces: http://pastebin.com/4y52PqmS
[09:01] <JunkHunk> Hey its me
[09:02] <JunkHunk> Its me in my computer
[09:02] <lordievader> That is quite different from mine ;)
[09:02] <TJ-> "dns-nameservers my dns nameservers" is that really what it says?
[09:02] <JustinCase> I like playing the sims
[09:02] <JustinCase> no of course not
[09:02] <JustinCase> I changed that just in case
[09:02] <lordievader> JunkHunk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11834961/
[09:04] <JustinCase> hmmm interesting
[09:05] <TJ-> JustinCase: please read "man 5 bridge-utils-interfaces"
[09:12] <JustinCase> TJ- okay I read it...but there I cannot find how to connect to the internet
[09:14] <JustinCase> lordievader your config has no dns...
[09:14] <lordievader> Correct.
[09:14] <JustinCase> ?
[09:15] <lordievader> It is hacked in elsewhere, ain't pretty. Should be migrated to dnsmasq someday.
[09:15] <JustinCase> you cant browse internet can you?
[09:15] <lordievader> Sure I can.
[09:16] <JustinCase> do you know what is failing in my config?
[09:16] <JustinCase> why I cannot connect to internet?
[09:18] <lordievader> JustinCase: I'd remove lines 22 through 32, replacing them with eth0 and eth1 manual statements.
[09:18] <lordievader> Furthermore for debug purposes, I'd disable simX.
[09:19] <JustinCase> but it is a kubuntu
[09:19] <TJ-> JustinCase: why don't you let Network Manager create the bridge and configure it automatically?
[09:20] <JustinCase> in the ubuntu documentation I found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge
[09:20] <JustinCase> TJ- okay how?
[09:21] <TJ-> first off replace the 'interfaces' file with the default that just sets up "lo" (save the current file someplace) then to ensure a clean start reboot the PC, log-in, then click the network icon , click the spanner, Connection Editor opens.
[09:22] <TJ-> Connection > Add > Virtual - Bridge ... give it a name, add the interfaces in the "Bridged connections" list, and configure IPv4 as required
[09:24] <JustinCase> connection add virtual I cant find virtual anywhere
[09:25] <JustinCase> just add remove and routes
[09:27] <TJ-> JustinCase: what release of Ubuntu is it ?
[09:27] <JustinCase> 14.04
[09:28] <TJ-> JustinCase: On the Connection Menu, Add > lists 3 sections for me: Hardware Virtual and VPN. Under the Virtual heading is Bridge
[09:31] <JustinCase> TJ- http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=90322
[09:32] <TJ-> JustinCase: http://imgur.com/0l35AKH
[09:33] <JustinCase> how come your connection editor is that cool?
[09:34] <JustinCase> and mine is so crappy?
[09:35] <JustinCase> did you install any new package?
[09:35] <TJ-> JustinCase: I don't think you're going into the Connection Editor correctly. When you press the Network Icon, *don't* choose one of the existing connections, use the Spanner at very top-right above all the connections, then you'll get to the Connection Editor proper, not the per-device configuration
[09:36] <JustinCase> ooooh
[09:36] <TJ-> JustinCase: http://imgur.com/oo8XZpT
[09:38] <JustinCase> okay now I am having trouble to add my eth0 and eth1 to the bridge
[09:38] <JustinCase> not eth but vlan?
[09:39] <TJ-> Probably because you've not rebooted as I said. Until you replace the '/etc/network/interfaces' file with the default that only configures 'lo' Network Manager cannot manage those interfaces since it sees you have them manually managed
[09:39] <TJ-> JustinCase: Any interface you configure manually, Network Manager will stay away from to avoid doing something you don't want it to
[09:39] <JustinCase> oh
[09:40] <JustinCase> so I first need to reset network interfaces file dont I?
[09:40] <TJ-> You can change that in "/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf" by changing to "managed=true" and restarting "sudo service network-manager restart"
[09:42] <akasic> hi ppl, i cannoot restart x from the old method, how can i do it with k15? thnx
[09:43] <TJ-> The problem with that is you'll likely get into even more of a mess, so I'd recommend trying to do it all via NM including creating your alias interfaces... here's an answer showing how its done http://askubuntu.com/questions/442318/how-do-i-add-interface-aliases-using-network-manager-gui
[09:43] <akasic> i look in shortcuts but no option in there
[09:44] <lordievader> akasic: You mean the ctrl + alt + backspace shortcut?
[09:44] <akasic> yes, but that isnt working
[09:45] <lordievader> akasic: You can enable it by reconfiguring your keyboard, but it really shouldn't be necesary to restart X all the time.
[09:45] <akasic> i know, it just necesary whn it is
[09:46] <lordievader> akasic: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[09:47] <akasic> thnx, but in yes, it was there, thank you
[09:47] <akasic> now i can restart it one time next to the other, infinite times, that is the purpose for my installation (joking)
[09:47] <akasic> cya and thnx
[09:49] <JustinCase> TJ- cool
[09:49] <JustinCase> TJ- after setting network-manager.conf to true...
[09:49] <JustinCase> TJ- I can see now all the virtual adapters and select eth0 and eth1 to build a virtual bridge
[09:50] <JustinCase> it is done now I should reboot I guess
[09:54] <lordievader> No, it is networkmanager... but he is already gone.
[09:56] <TJ-> lordievader: I think there was a lot of 'customisation' going on so a clean boot will help :)
[09:56] <TJ-> lordievader: I think he's still here with the tablet on JunkHunk
[09:57] <lordievader> True, true.
[10:10] <JustinCase> TJ- hello again I followed your advice and reset the interfaces file then bridged the two adapters using network-monitor but now on boot the bridge won't connect...what am I doing wrong? I configured the bridge with the same static config eth0 has and for now I just got rid of virtual adapters...I guess it is something I can get bussy with when the bridge will be up and running
[10:11] <TJ-> Hmmm, I've never had any problems with configuring such things so I'm not sure where you're going wrong
[10:11] <JustinCase> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=90324
[10:11] <JustinCase> TJ- an image here
[10:13] <lordievader> Both of the eth connection are online?
[10:15] <TJ-> I was thinking that , they need bringing down before the bridge can come up.
[10:15] <JustinCase> how to turn the bridge active?
[10:16] <lordievader> Both of the eth connection are online?
[10:16] <JustinCase> yes
[10:16] <lordievader> 07-12:15 < TJ-> I was thinking that , they need bringing down before the bridge can come up.
[10:17] <JustinCase> and to enable that on boot?
[10:17] <JustinCase> from network manager?
[10:18] <lordievader> Disable the autoconnect on the other interfaces, enable it on the bridge interface.
[10:18] <JustinCase> the tick box automaticly connect to this network when it is available?
[10:18] <JustinCase> hmm I ll test that
[10:19] <JustinCase> see you
[10:22] <zxq9> Hrm... Muon updater told me that the new irqbalance package failed signature verification. apt-get installed it without any warnings. ?
[10:29] <JunkHunk> lordievader I ticked the connect to this network when it is available for the bridge and unticked it for the cable networks...result: no connection. the bridge is not among the available networks
[10:29] <JunkHunk> available connections*
[10:30] <lordievader> Hmm...
[10:30] <JunkHunk> I edited and configured with dns and ip address and gateway and mask
[10:30] <JunkHunk> but is as though the system couldn't find it
[10:31] <JunkHunk> to create it I just did what TJ- said
[10:32] <JunkHunk> after turning to true the managed command in network-manager conf...I could find and add to the bridge both cable adapters
[10:32] <JunkHunk> I can see their macs
[10:32] <JunkHunk> and their eth0 and eth1 names
[10:33] <lordievader> JunkHunk: How does /etc/network/interfaces look now?
[10:33] <JunkHunk> the forward delay you mentioned perhaps?
[10:33] <JunkHunk> just the loop
[10:33] <JunkHunk> I deleted all
[10:33] <lordievader> Ok.
[10:33] <JunkHunk> but the loop
[10:34] <soee> guys do you have the same that Chromium Browsers lags when scrolling while Firefox or Vivaldi don't ?
[10:36] <lordievader> JunkHunk: You might have to add it through nmcli, I never got my bridge to work through the nm gui: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/Networking_Guide/sec-Network_Bridging_Using_the_NetworkManager_Command_Line_Tool_nmcli.html
[10:36] <JunkHunk> lol
[11:44] <dmoyne> blackscreen on plasma after opening kde session!
[11:50] <ejay> Good afternoon everyone. I'm updating my OS via console. Always. But when I'm starting apt-get update this muon pop-up shows, for example, 40 updates with 12 security updates but apt-get dist-upgrade (or just upgrade) is giving me 10 updates. Why?
[11:54] <TJ-> ejay: maybe muon is behind the times and you've previously upgraded most of those packages?
[11:55] <lordievader> Let Muon update its sources. Perhaps it caches things itself rather than reading apt/dpkg.
[11:55] <ejay> TJ-: Nah, I'm updating everyday and muon is always showing number of packages to upgrade out from air.
[11:56] <ejay> lordievader: I thought that muon is using same cache and basically same command that I;m using manually - apt-get update
[11:56] <lordievader> That is my understanding too, but who knows. I've never looked at the code of Muon.
[11:57] <ejay> It must work like that because when updating via muon and trying to update via console at the same time you will end with error that apt-get is locked.
[12:05] <dmoyne> good morning I have a black screen on plasma after opening kde session. How to solve this?
[12:06] <soee> if you press ALT + F2 does it loads krunner ?
[12:10] <dmoyne> sooe : are you talking to me?
[12:12] <soee> dmoyne: yes
[12:12] <dmoyne> you mean an access to a comand panel with this?
[12:13] <soee> yup
[12:14] <dmoyne> this problem appears when after installing kubuntu 15.04 I modify the fstab file to add my partition data in sudo mode
[12:15] <soee> oh with that stuff im not familiar
[12:16] <lordievader> dmoyne: Is /home/$USER still owned by your user?
[12:16] <dmoyne> I do not know any other possibilty to mont other partitions after kubuntu installation process
[12:17] <lordievader> dmoyne: How does your fstab look now?
[12:17] <lordievader> !paste
[12:19] <dmoyne> lordievader: of course if using sudo command modifies somehow my user privileges it will be a problem
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:21] <dmoyne> I am not using this computer at the present time but another one but using a live CD I will look at it
[12:22] <lordievader> dmoyne: Did you use sudo to launch gui's?
[12:23] <dmoyne> hoops I do no understand. I use sudo command to modify with kate the content of the /etc/fstab file as I did with no problems in the past
[12:24] <lordievader> dmoyne: You should use kdesudo for gui apps, sudo can mess up permissions.
[12:25] <lordievader> dmoyne: sudo chown <username>:<username> -R /home/<username>
[12:28] <dmoyne> ok I will do in the future. You understand that after reinstalling kubuntu I use another /home partition to keep my existing kde data safe in previous /home partition. After this I have to recover kmail data in particular which is not easy.
[12:30] <dmoyne> By doing sudo chown <username>:<username> -R /home/<username> you propose to reset my user privileges?
[12:31] <lordievader> Ownership, yes.
[12:31] <dmoyne> You think that fstab is somhox related to the gui?
[12:32] <lordievader> Fstab itself aint.
[12:33] <dmoyne> so why using kdesudo when reediting kate for modifications
[12:33] <dmoyne> reed reediting fstab
[12:35] <lordievader> Kdesudo for gui applications. It is nicer about user ownership.
[12:36] <dmoyne> ok but in my case the bug is created when editing fstab in sudo modeas I do not know any other possibility.
[14:00] <yuraku1504> Is kubuntu better than ubuntu?
[14:04] <hateball> yuraku1504: It comes with different packages preinstalled
[14:09] <soee> i think it's more about what DE you liek more Unity or Plasma 5
[14:09] <soee> i just love how configurable Plasma is :)
[14:13] <knightyyy> ow can I see what application is not letting plasma to shut down the computer
[14:13] <knightyyy> when I press shutdown,plasma disappears except windows.and instead of plasma's wallpaper I see unity's wallpaper
[14:13] <knightyyy> except opened windows*
[14:14] <vivid> i just dont love how bugs i opened years ago still exist in unity
[14:14] <knightyyy> vivid,I don't use unity either.but I didn't want to throw away my ubuntu 15.04 disc I just downloaded.so I just tried to convert it to kubuntu.all was well for 2-3 weeks
[14:15] <vivid> just use the mini.iso
[14:15] <vivid> then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:16] <knightyyy> how can I backup my current settings and restore them after reinstall?
[14:17] <knightyyy> plasma's settings
[17:29] <varunwachaspati> Hello, I am using Ubuntu 15.04 with KDE, I would like to know how can we display the battery percentage of laptop on the panel itself.. Thanks in Advance
[17:38] <ovidiu-florin> varunwachaspati: you'd need a widget for that
[17:41] <ovidiu-florin> varunwachaspati: the default battery widget shows the percentage if you hover over it
[17:48] <varunwachaspati> ovidiu-florin, could you please name the widget and if possible how to install it
[17:51] <ovidiu-florin> varunwachaspati: the default one shows the lever as a series of dots. Can I assume that's not ok for you, right?
[17:52] <varunwachaspati> ovidiu-florin, it's not that visible.. if you get percentage up their or a better representation it would be great, I just need to keep the track of battery level
[17:53] <varunwachaspati> ovidiu-florin, Also can you suggest how can I set notification when my Battery Level reaches a certain level...
[17:54] <ovidiu-florin> if you go to power settings , in the Advanced configurations tab (on the left) you may alter those
[17:54] <ovidiu-florin> the notifications
[17:59] <ovidiu-florin> varunwachaspati: this widget might suit your needs: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Battery+Time+Remaining?content=123767
[17:59] <ovidiu-florin> varunwachaspati: but you can also make the pannel taller, thus making the default battery widget bigger
[18:00] <ovidiu-florin> varunwachaspati: that widget migh tnot work on Vivid (15.04)
[18:04] <varunwachaspati> ovidiu-florin: How can I decrease the size of title bar, if I can decrease it would be great...
[18:08] <psicy> hi, is there a way to install kde 5 on ubuntu 14.04
[18:15] <lordievader> psicy: No, unfortunately not.
[18:17] <lordievader> !pm | varunwachaspati
[18:18] <varunwachaspati> lordievader, ubottu : I am sorry, won't happen again...
[18:18] <lordievader> varunwachaspati: That is allright, just ask your question here ;)
[18:21] <varunwachaspati> I wanted to know how to decrease/increase the size of Title bar? I am using Ubuntu 15.04 along with KDE
[18:48] <ovidiu-florin> varunwachaspati: one moment
[18:50] <ovidiu-florin> varunwachaspati: system settings -> Application Style -> window decorations -> your current theme options settings
[18:50] <ovidiu-florin> and there you may fiddle with the settings
[18:51] <ovidiu-florin> psicy: there is if you want to compile everything by hand and force the session on your own
[19:18] <eXistenZe> hum... getting tired of black screens
[19:18] <eXistenZe> plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc somehow gets corrupted and needs to be deleted/replaced with a good version
[19:45] <izinucs> On AC power with no activity it is set to blank the screen.. when this happens it also locks the computer.  Is there a switch to prevent the locking? I can't locate it in Setting>Power
[19:59] <night1504> hi
[20:33] <chencho9000> hi there
[20:33] <akasic> i
[20:33] <akasic> hi
[20:50] <cyberoid> hi all
[20:51] <akasic> hi
[20:54] <ahoneybun> hey cyberoid and akasic
[21:00] <akasic> hi
[21:13] <kaddi> hi
[21:13] <kaddi> is there a list of known issues with kubuntu 15.04 listing both kde & ubuntu bugs?
[21:14] <kaddi> how stable is plasma5?
[21:14] <mparillo> To prevent locking try System Settings > Desktop Behavior > Screen Locking
[23:32] <keithzg> Has systemd-kcm (see https://rthomsen6.wordpress.com/2015/07/06/systemd-kcm-1-2-0-released/ ) been packaged for Kubuntu yet, btw?
[23:48] <clivejo> keithzg: its been packaged for wily
[23:49] <keithzg> clivejo: Fair 'nuff
[23:49] <Unit193> !info systemd-kcm wily
[23:50] <clivejo> in a ppa
[23:50] <clivejo> ppa:panfaust/kubuntu-kf5-experiments
[23:50] <Unit193> PPAs don't count! :P


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[06:20] <Seony> 안녕하세요
[08:37] <youngbin> 그나저나 libera.chat 의 #ubuntu-ko 에서는 :foxmask 님이 Op 이시군요
[08:45] <foxmask> youngbin: I don't want to be the owner of #ubuntu-ko on libera.chat, who is the owner of #ubuntu-ko on freenode ?
[08:46] <foxmask> once he/she will be on libera.chat I'll give op to him/her
[08:55] <youngbin> :Seony is the admin of this channel here
[11:00] <foxmask> Seony: hi :) when you have 2min to come on irc.libera.chat/#ubuntu-ok i'll give you the ownership of the channel
[11:07] <Seony> Okay I’ll try later.  I already turned off my computer because it’s too late in my timezone.
[11:31] <foxmask> Seony: yeah I know it's 20:30 . see you ;)
[11:32] <Seony> No it’s 1:30 am now
[11:34] <foxmask> Seony: ha yes I forgot you were there
[11:34] <foxmask> good night
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[20:14] <daftykins> penguin42: hey i have to show you the dramatic phone line VDSL2 sync improvements from the other day when the telco engineer discovered that dentist client wasn't connected properly in the MSAN
[20:16] <daftykins> penguin42: https://i.imgur.com/eHgQMSj.png
[20:16] <daftykins> nothing like a change in length from ~1km -> 56m
[20:22] <daftykins> happy bank holiday weekend people :D
[20:42] <penguin42> oh that's a bit better!
[20:42] <daftykins> ooh yes :)
[23:09] <daftykins> g'night all o/
[23:09] <daftykins> enjoy the bank holiday i totally forgot about!
[23:10]  * penguin42 is taking the whole week off


[12:03] <urulama> luca: hey, you there?
[12:22] <luca> urulama: hey
[13:49] <hatch> morning
[13:51] <rick_h_> hatch: can you peek at huw's branch this morning please?
[13:52] <hatch> on it
[13:52] <hatch> had to drive the rents to the airport at an ungodly hour this morning
[13:52] <hatch> lets see how long I last :D
[13:52] <rick_h_> lol
[13:53] <hatch> also had to climb into the attic this morning
[13:54] <hatch> insulation and nails....awesome environment
[13:54] <hatch> :D
[13:54] <rick_h_> death trap, at least it's not summer when it's melting degrees up there :P
[13:55] <hatch> true true
[13:55] <hatch> very cold though :)
[13:55] <hatch> rick_h_: is ci down?
[13:55] <hatch> yup
[14:10] <hatch> *itch itch itch* damn insulation
[14:16] <hatch> uiteam I still need two reviews and qa on https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/670
[14:17] <hatch> last night I started prepping my old mac mini to be converted into an Ubuntu server
[14:19] <hatch> not sure what I'll use it for
[14:38] <hatch> rick_h_: I checked out huw's branch and resolved the issues and pasted the diff in the PR
[14:39] <rick_h_> hatch: ty
[14:39] <hatch> github is so handy sometimes - pasting a formatted diff right into the comments of a pr
[14:43] <hatch> http://blog.ghost.org/roon/   interesting...
[14:47] <hatch> I found some old GUI pictures from a couple years ago when cleaning out the mini last night :)
[14:47] <hatch> wow has there been a lot of UI changes lol
[14:48] <rick_h_>  :)
[14:48] <urulama> hatch: do share :)
[14:48] <hatch> urulama: I'll have to get them later I didn't get a chance to get all my stuff uploaded to the NAS before bed
[14:48] <hatch> I'll try and finish that up tonight so I can get them
[14:48] <hatch> it was grey, yellow, red
[14:49] <urulama> hatch: np, just curious :)
[14:49] <hatch> :)
[14:49] <urulama> hatch: http://www.rothkoeverywhere.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/99p-Store-Yellow-Red-Grey-600x800.jpg
[14:49] <hatch> but last night I learnt that the Synology nas has a cloud sync tool which will backup the synology nas to google drive
[14:49] <hatch> pretty excited to give that a try
[14:50] <hatch> true local and remote backups
[14:50] <hatch> :)
[14:50] <urulama> hatch: wow! that's nice
[14:50] <hatch> yeah atm I have my synology nas with a local external backup so Local > NAS > Backup
[14:50] <hatch> but I lose it all if the house goes up and I haven't manually backed it up to the cloud
[14:51] <hatch> having it Local > NAS > Backup > Cloud will be awesome
[14:51] <hatch> might end up costing me $2/mo though (I have a lot of junk)
[14:51] <hatch> :)
[14:54] <hatch> luca__: I'm not sure I agree about requiring users to clear the issues in the inspector
[14:54] <hatch> what if they have a ton of failed units but just want to leave them be while they work on something else
[14:55] <hatch> ahh I can just reply via the ticket :)
[14:57] <luca__> hatch: I suppose, but whats the point of notifications if it doesn’t track errors?
[14:58] <luca__> hatch: all other notifications are notifying the user about something that has completed or an upgrade
[14:58] <luca__> hatch: the user can choose to either action them or not
[14:59] <luca__> hatch: but I’m not sure it’s the same for errors
[14:59] <luca__> hatch: In our panel, we group errors so if 10 units of MySQL error out then you only get 1 notification
[15:08] <hatch> I suppose the grouping does make identical errors less of an issue
[15:08] <hatch> would the GUI level issues go here as well?
[15:08] <hatch> things like "cannot fetch charm data"
[15:20] <luca__> hatch: for now I think so, yes
[15:22] <hatch> luca__: so those would need to be dismissed within the notifications then
[15:22] <hatch> so is that interaction then a little confusing?
[18:58] <hatch> teslanick: I decided my approach will be a 'executor' function which is passed in functions to execute - it'll execute that function every time it's called unless it's passed another one then it'll start to call that one instead
[18:58] <rick_h_> hatch: ok, standup?
[18:58] <hatch> without doing manual recompilation it's just not possible in anything I've found
[18:58] <hatch> rick_h_:  joining
[18:59] <teslanick> hatch: So something that's like  var e = executor(someFunc); /* later */ e.swap(someOtherFunc); ?
[19:17] <hatch> teslanick: yeah
[19:17] <hatch> trivial
[19:18] <teslanick> Seems difficult to reason about
[19:21] <hatch> The idea is that you have a set of records, you don't know what you need to process each record ahead of time, once the program accepts the record it passes it to its executor if the executor can't make any sense of the record the program takes what it does know about the record and swaps the executor
[19:21] <hatch> (yes this can all be done with a prefixed conditional)
[19:21] <hatch> (but like I said, this is just a dumb academic idea)
[19:22] <hatch> the program execution could be thought of as a kid trying to put a round peg through one of those balls with the different shapes :)
[19:22] <teslanick> It sounds like you could use some sort of pattern-matching middleware concept to achieve the same idea.
[19:23] <hatch> the program would - as a kid would - become smarter about the data which was passed in to choose the correct executor
[19:38] <hatch> teslanick: you definitely wouldn't write a real program like that :)
[21:11] <jcastro> rick_h_, dumb question
[21:11] <jcastro> when does juju.ubuntu.com switch to jujucharms.com?
[21:17] <hatch> that's not a dumb question at all :)
[21:49] <rick_h_> jcastro: talked with luca on it monday. We're working to bring up the blog on the next release and they feel that's about the last thing required before bringing it down.
[21:49] <jcastro> ack, thanks
[21:49] <rick_h_> jcastro: we've still got some stuff to do on pulling in feeds from insights/etc, but luca feels close enough
[21:49] <rick_h_> jcastro: so 1week or less? they control it
[21:49] <jcastro> awesome
[21:49] <jcastro> and the deploy #s?
[21:50] <jcastro> when do you anticipate those being correct?
[21:50] <rick_h_> jcastro: next release, branch on that landed today I think
[21:50]  * jcastro nods
[21:51] <rick_h_> ah sorry, landed yesterday but yea still next release
[21:51] <jcastro> ok you are 2 for 3
[21:51] <jcastro> last one...
[21:51] <jcastro> juju publish?
[21:52] <rick_h_> long road, end of cycle. We'll have parts of it before then, like gating, but no full workflow until closer to end of cycle
[21:52] <jcastro> ack
[21:53] <rick_h_> it'll land in chunks as part of other work to the charmstore through the cycle as needed, but no single 'turn on switch' any time soon
[21:58] <huwshimi> Morning
[21:58] <hatch> mornin huwshimi
[21:58] <hatch> I posted a patch to your PR for the bug you were having
[21:58] <hatch> s/bug/issue
[21:59] <huwshimi> hatch: Ah brilliant thanks for that!
[21:59] <hatch> np, turns out I caused one of the issues :D
[22:00] <huwshimi> hehe
[22:00] <huwshimi> hatch: Should I add "window.flags = {};" to the afterEach to clean up then?
[22:01] <huwshimi> oh, no I can do it before then done in the test
[22:01] <huwshimi> nevermind
[22:01] <hatch> huwshimi: in the event that the test fails and it doesn't hit that callback then flags will not be reset
[22:01] <hatch> so it'll have a compound failure
[22:02] <hatch> so putting it in the afterEach isn't a horrible idea
[22:02] <huwshimi> hatch: Ah yeah, good call
[22:23] <huwshimi> Makyo: How far have you gotten with the multi-user stuff? I wasn't sure how to switch users...
[22:24] <Makyo> huwshimi, just getting to it now, had appt.  For the card with both our icons on it, you can apt-add-repository ppa:juju/devel && apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[22:24] <Makyo> That will get you a juju that can work with multiple users.
[22:24] <Makyo> For switching users, we'll have to log out and log back in, since that's the first command we send over the WS
[22:25] <huwshimi> Makyo: Oh, how do you logot? :)
[22:25] <huwshimi> *logout
[22:25] <huwshimi> (from the console)
[22:28] <Makyo> huwshimi, ATM I think all console interaction happens as the admin user, or at least whichever user is in the jenv file, but still researching that.  `juju help user` shows the user creation/modification stuff.
[22:30] <huwshimi> Makyo: Yeah, I couldn't find anything to the contrary
[23:04] <huwshimi> Makyo: Logging in from the gui works at least