[00:00] <pate> but - with no avail either :D
[00:00] <SIR_Taco> pate: still wont run?
[00:00] <pate> the executing gave the same error
[00:00] <James147> pate: another thing is replace %d with %ld (and dont cast)
[00:00] <pate> invalid pointer
[00:00] <pate> LD
[00:00] <pate> ld
[00:00] <pate> ?
[00:00] <FloodBotK1> pate: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:00] <SIR_Taco> James147: good point James147
[00:00] <James147> pate: yes (lower case LD)
[00:01] <pate> k
[00:01] <pate> and %lX
[00:01] <pate> for %X ?
[00:01] <pate> worked too
[00:02] <pate> but running - no
[00:02] <pate> what is %ld?
[00:02] <James147> pate: same as d but for long
[00:02] <James147> http://www.thinkage.ca/english/gcos/expl/c/lib/printf.html
[00:02] <SIR_Taco> %ld is a long decimal... which you're replacing %d with
[00:02] <pate> ah
[00:04] <pate> It's reporting this "z/z/z/.soż˝ďż˝"Bďż˝ďż˝ďż˝ďż˝ďż˝ďż˝zďż˝ďż˝ďż˝ďż˝ďż˝Tzďż˝ďż˝Aborted"
[00:04] <pate> at a memory address
[00:04] <pate> z/z/z is the folder structure
[00:05] <pate> seems to me, as a codepage mismatch :D
[00:05] <SIR_Taco> no specific static library?
[00:09] <pate> ..
[00:09] <pate> sry - I don't understand
[00:11] <SIR_Taco> pate: you said it's reporting: "something.so" ?
[00:12] <SIR_Taco> pate: is this your own program? or are you trying to compile someone elses?
[00:18] <pate> someone elses
[00:18] <pate> that's why I'm so lost with it
[00:18] <pate> well the weird markings are a bit peculiar on the memory map
[00:19] <pate> the ones that look like if you print out UTF-8 as ms-ansi
[00:21] <SIR_Taco> pate: unfortunately that's out of my expertise I'm afraid.... I do the odd bug-fix and simple program/script/etc.
[00:36] <pate> SIR_Taco: thanks for the help nonetheless
[00:36] <pate> I'll leave it for toda
[00:36] <pate> y
[00:36] <pate> bye
[00:45] <securityxxxpert> Anybody recommend using compiz over kde desktop effects on Nvidia Cards specifically 9800 gt on Kubuntu 11.04
[00:47] <luizcb> hello kubuntu's users & abusers.
[00:56] <luizcb> i posted this matter on the relevant channels, but if anyone know how to solve it i appreciate...
[00:56] <luizcb> i have a correct dual head monitor configuration except the default monitor stays on my secondary one, a crt. if i issue '$ sudo aticonfig --swap-screens=on ' and reboot, xorg.conf accepts the changes but, as soon as i get to the environment ...nothing changes; still, default screen on top (being that my secondary monitor). here is my current xorg.conf -> http://goo.gl/E3zBo
[01:11] <ShaneQful> hey does anyone have ubuntu one setn up kubuntu its probably a noob question but I can't stand unity
[01:14] <JasonO> Hello
[01:14] <luizcb> shadeslayer,i removed unity and ubuntu-desktop. i noticed ubuntuone was removed too. i didn't try to reinstall it yet but a lot of *unity* comes with it
[01:16] <luizcb> sorry shadeslayer, that was for.... he left... (ShaneQful)
[01:17] <DarkwingDuck> Who in here is still using 10.04LTS and wants to help with a Kubuntu Project?
[01:20] <ArchangelSe7en> Mint 9 KDE which is idealy the same
[01:20] <ArchangelSe7en> what project DarkwingDuck
[01:21] <DarkwingDuck> Documentation project. so, I need someone running Kubuntu 10.04 LTS. A review and fix project
[01:22] <ArchangelSe7en> I dont think Mint 9 would do wouldnt it ?
[01:22] <DarkwingDuck> No I am sorry. :(
[01:22] <Fanfare> DarkwingDuck: Document what? reg app from repo?
[01:23] <ArchangelSe7en> ok ^^
[01:24] <DarkwingDuck> Fanfare: the shipped system docs from package kubuntu-docs
[01:26] <Fanfare> DarkwingDuck: how much time does it take? how urgent is it?
[01:26] <Fanfare> getting notebook up...  argh its 10.10 iirc
[01:27] <DarkwingDuck> Fanfare: It will be a weekend project. And when it can be done. I'm getting the next series up and going as we are starting the 11.10 Oneiric Ocelot development off the ground.
[01:28] <DarkwingDuck> Fanfare: More or less, verifying that the docs are correct and if not, submitting bugs for them assigning myself and/or writing patches for them.
[01:36] <Fanfare> DarkwingDuck: ok, thers 10.10 on my notebook... and sadly not the time... leaving tomorrow for a 2w trip...
[01:39] <DarkwingDuck> Fanfare: That's cool. Keep an eye out becaue in the next month or so I'll be sending out an email looking for people who want to help with current (11.10 Oneiric) documentation as well.
[01:43] <Fanfare> DarkwingDuck: is that a kde or kubuntu projekt?
[01:43] <DarkwingDuck> Fanfare: Kubuntu project.
[01:52] <dniMretsaM> hi every1
[02:16] <securityxxxpert> Anybody around?
[02:18] <moes> I am wanting to dual boot Ubuntu 10.04 and Kubuntu 10.04...Ubuntu is on first drive and has grub 2 installed...I want to install Kubuntu to the second drive...Where do I need to install grub from Kubuntu
[02:20] <ArchangelSe7en> moes, your machine needs only one GRUB installed
[02:20] <dniMretsaM> I don't think you need to install GRUB(2) on both OSs
[02:20] <ArchangelSe7en> so it should go in your MBR
[02:21] <dniMretsaM> what's the difference between GRUB & GRUB 2? and how do u know which u have?
[02:21] <ArchangelSe7en> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[02:22] <moes> dniMretsaM, Well I ran install-grub --version in Ubuntu and recieved 1.98 which is grub 2
[02:23] <nickmoeck> Hi. Is there a way to force the installer to install the standard kubuntu desktop instead of the netbook version on a netbook?
[02:24] <moes> ArchangelSe7en, So what you are saying don't install anything from Kubuntu and when I update-grub it will list Kubuntu
[02:25] <dniMretsaM> Um, you can switch once it's installed I believe
[02:25] <dniMretsaM> in settings someplace, lemme find it
[02:25] <ArchangelSe7en> nope .. install Kubuntu normally on your new partition (supposing that you have one ) and it should install GRUB for you
[02:25] <dniMretsaM> anyway, I have 1.99 RC something
[02:26] <ArchangelSe7en> which will take take of listing your OSs for you
[02:26] <ArchangelSe7en> even if you dualboot with Windows
[02:27] <moes> ArchangelSe7en, Will it not ask where to install grub during to install
[02:28] <c2tarun> moes: you installing kubuntu?
[02:28] <ArchangelSe7en> normally it shouldnt and if it did .. your first partition (sda usually) is the right place for that
[02:28] <moes> c2tarun, getting prepared to install 10.04
[02:28] <dniMretsaM> having trouble finding it. lemme google it for u
[02:29] <c2tarun> moes: well if you want to install boot in different partition then you have to mount that partition to /boot
[02:29] <c2tarun> by default grub will be installed in you root partition /boot folder.
[02:30] <c2tarun> moes: and why 10.04? there are newer  versions available...
[02:31] <dniMretsaM> he probably wants 10.04 since it's LTS
[02:31] <c2tarun> ohh.... :)
[02:31] <moes> c2tarun, Okay that is where I want to install to root partition /boot folder...I want the lts program
[02:32] <c2tarun> moes: sorry, can you please rephrase your sentence. I am not getting
[02:33] <moes> c2tarun, Your suggestion to install Kubuntu grub to /root partition....Is what I was looking for...I want 10.04 because it is LTS
[02:34] <dniMretsaM> @nickmoeck: go to System Settings -> Workspace Behavior -> Workspace and there is an option for desktop or netbook
[02:34] <c2tarun> moes: thats good :) you ever installed any linux distro before?
[02:34] <nickmoeck> dniMretsaM: thanks
[02:35] <dniMretsaM> yep
[02:35] <dniMretsaM> I'm out guys
[02:35] <dniMretsaM> l8r
[02:36] <moes> c2tarun, I currently have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on sda1....And yes I have installed other PuppyLinux...Pclos Phoenix  etc
[02:37] <c2tarun> moes: than its good :) normally new users are recommended not to mess with grub and home on different partitions. Since you are experienced thats good :) enjoy LTS
[02:37] <moes> c2tarun, Thanks for the help
[02:38] <ronnoc> DarkwingDuck: Couldn't someone just run 10.10 froma live CD and help with the 10.04 docs?
[02:38] <ronnoc> Meant *10.04 / 10.04 of course
[02:42] <DarkwingDuck> ronnoc: There are UI changes from 10.04 to 10.10. I'm looking for a review of the LTS Docs
[02:43] <ronnoc> DarkwingDuck: i meant to say couldn't someone review the 10.04 docs from running a 10.04 live cd - sorry for the typo
[02:44] <DarkwingDuck> ronnoc: I'm sure one could. I'm tryig to get more participation then do everything myself
[02:44] <DarkwingDuck> :)
[02:47] <ronnoc> ahh ok. I would help but I'm starting work on the Kubuntu Enterprise website for the next few weeks. Goodluck though - hopefully someone steps up.
[02:48] <DarkwingDuck> ronnoc: I'm sure someone will. I'm trying to drive more for current docs when that comes up.
[02:49] <ronnoc> DarkwingDuck: Esp if / when some of the default apps change as proposed. OT, but I'm stoked that Muon will replace KPK in 11.11, among other things :)
[02:50] <ronnoc> *11.10. Geez I'm numerically challenged tonight
[02:53] <DarkwingDuck> ronnoc: Aye, I was impressed when that was brought up at UDS. There are always tweaks to the documentation and I'm moving forward with other projects re kubuntu and I'm not sure if I want to do all of that plus maintaining the docs
[02:58] <ronnoc> DarkwingDuck: Docs are not the most exciting thing on earth, but insanely important
[03:01] <DarkwingDuck> ronnoc: Yup, I've been leading the charge for a couple of releases now. What people don't realize is that 99% of people have done doc work
[03:02] <ronnoc> DarkwingDuck: I didn't realize that myself :)
[03:03] <DarkwingDuck> ronnoc: Have you ever explained to anyone how to do something in IRC or email?
[03:10] <ronnoc> DarkwingDuck: Of course. Many times.
[03:10] <DarkwingDuck> ronnoc: That's all documentation is. :)
[03:11] <DarkwingDuck> a howto or a series of documents explaining how something works
[03:12] <ronnoc> DarkwingDuck: heh. Very true. Never really thought of it that way I guess. But you really can't live long in Open Source without doing just that on a regular basis :)
[03:13] <jmichaelx> i just did a fresh install of 11.04 on a laptop using 945gm express graphics... what a nightmare. kubuntu 10.10 also ran poorly with this graphics chipset. does anyone know whether or not this is primarily a KDE/Kwin/Kubuntu issue, or a conflict with X in 11.04 in general?
[03:14] <DarkwingDuck> ronnoc: Aye, but that's why there are those of us who do that as much as possible and try to make things simplier.
[03:14] <jmichaelx> BTW, i was able to get some limited compositing working, using xrandr instead of opengl.
[03:16] <jmichaelx> Xrender*
[03:16] <DarkwingDuck> jmichaelx: i know that a couple years ago there were issues with that graphics chipset.
[03:17] <DarkwingDuck> jmichaelx: What driver is being used?
[03:17] <ronnoc>  DarkwingDuck: A very important task. Esp. since two of the primary areas of information / documentaion for people coming from other OS's, mainly WIKI's and IRC, are likely foreign to those people.
[03:18] <jmichaelx> DarkwingDuck: yes, there was. then it seemed to be resolved for the next few releases, then the problem returned in maverick... and apparently has remained in natty.
[03:18] <jmichaelx> DarkwingDuck: i am not sure which driver... i assume the same driver used for most intel cards
[03:18] <DarkwingDuck> jmichaelx: I know one of the workarounds was a program called 915resolution that seemed to fix things IIRC
[03:20] <jmichaelx> DarkwingDuck: the resolution is not where the problem is, and i don't think many have had to use 915resolution in a long time. (unless i have missed something, which is always possible.)
[03:20] <DarkwingDuck> jmichaelx: Graphics running slow is the issue right?
[03:21] <jmichaelx> DarkwingDuck: yes, VERY slow
[03:22] <jmichaelx> DarkwingDuck: with opengl compositing enabled, it is just unusable. with XRender, it is usable, but anything requiring much of any acceleration is not usable
[03:22] <DarkwingDuck> jmichaelx: Check this thread... there might be a fix in it. I just kinda scanned over it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1723748
[03:22] <jmichaelx> (the story is the same with all desktop effects disabled, too)
[03:22] <jmichaelx> DarkwingDuck: thx, i will try to look that over
[03:23] <DarkwingDuck> jmichaelx: Sorry i can't help more.
[03:27] <jmichaelx> DarkwingDuck: the thread you pointed me to may indeed be helpful.... in  the very last post, someone states that using the xorg-edgers xserver improved things a lot for him
[03:27] <jmichaelx> i am going to give that a shot
[03:28] <DarkwingDuck> jmichaelx: Awesome-sauce
[03:45] <uberfrau> how do i change my background? ;o
[03:47] <ronnoc> uberfrau: you mean your wallpaper?
[03:49] <jmichaelx> DarkwingDuck: just reporting back... i installed the xorg-edgers' xorg and intel gpu driver, and now opengl compositing works :-D
[03:50] <jmichaelx> however, some things are still VERY slow... if i start something like the game 'kapman', the little guy barely moves, lol
[03:52] <DarkwingDuck> jmichaelx: It's a start.
[03:53] <jmichaelx> DarkwingDuck: more than a start, it has made the desktop very usable now, with the excption of some games
[03:54] <DarkwingDuck> jmichaelx: Awesome, glad i could help
[03:54] <jmichaelx> i really feel that distros should post info on major known-bugs, as well as possible solutions, on the websites
[03:55] <jmichaelx> no idea why i put a hyphen between 'known' & 'bugs'. but anyways....
[03:56] <jmichaelx> DarkwingDuck: yes, thanks again for pointing me to that thread!
[03:57] <DarkwingDuck> jmichaelx: My pleasure
[03:58] <jmichaelx> hmm, i wonder why there is no 'reply' option on that thread right now?
[04:06] <jmichaelx> ok, the game Kapman was a bad example... apparently that game is not working on any computer (at least one those that i own) in natty
[04:06] <jmichaelx> one=on*
[04:08] <ronnoc> jmichaelx: That's not just you. I have proprietary nvidia graphics and kapman is unplayable in natty. must be a bug.
[04:08] <ronnoc> jmichaelx: meaning a bug with kapman, not graphics
[04:13] <jmichaelx> yep
[04:17] <DarkwingDuck> Well, I just tried kapman and with my 1Gb vid card it still is slow as blech
[04:21] <elijah> How do I tell what version of Kubuntu I am running
[04:21] <elijah> I think I just upgraded to 11.04 but GRUB totally crashed on me and I had to recover it so I am not sure
[04:24] <ronnoc> elijah: open a terminal and type "cat /etc/issue"
[04:24] <ronnoc> elijah: minus the quotes
[04:25] <elijah> ronnoc: thx that worked, confirmed 11.04
[04:25] <ronnoc> elijah: :)
[04:27] <jmichaelx> DarkwingDuck: slow as blech? lol
[04:27] <MrGizmo757> i Have a Question.  i installed Xine and VLC plug ins into Firefox. But if i CLick a video on a webpage it wont work. if i right click on the play link and tell it to open in New tab it will work but in its own Window. Why dose this happen. and can i do anything to correct it?
[04:27] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, and if it's slow on my system then it's slow everywhere.
[04:28] <elijah> k, second question. I restored GRUB 2 with the directions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 but now when I start up Kubuntu the grub screen is blue and kubuntu shows some startup procedures. How do I get GRUB back to the minimalistic black screen?
[04:28] <jmichaelx> DarkwingDuck: that was my conclusion, too... my desktop is a quadcore, using prop. nvidia graphics, and kapman did not work there, either
[04:29] <elijah> I am thinking the Kubuntu startup stuff is because of the upgrade and not GRUB, but maybe I can just update GRUB to a different version?
[04:31] <ronnoc> elijah: not sure if you can, but that blue screen is the one for kubuntu 11.04. i like it personally, as by default it only shows the latest kernel - less confusing that way IMO.
[04:34] <elijah> well that was fun
[04:34] <elijah> got knocked to a ttl and had no clue how to get back in, had to reboot
[04:35] <elijah> was trying to load a xorg config file
[04:35] <elijah> i guess after the upgrade things changed a bit
[04:35] <elijah> i just realized I probably wiped my xord swap script too :(
[04:35] <elijah> *xorg
[04:44] <kubu2> elijah: if you are in ttl sudo kdm will bring give you the gui logon screen
[04:44] <elijah> Is anyone here running Chrome, if you are can you run youtube videos in fullscreen? Mine sort of does it but puts the play bar a quarter way up the screen
[04:45] <elijah> kubu2: k, thx, I'll write that down.
[04:45] <kubu2> no prob here with chrome
[04:48] <kubu2> elijah: but you need to sudo killall kdm if kdm failed to start first time
[04:50] <dan___> elijah:  i've hard weird flash issues in ffx and chromium
[04:50] <dan___> works ok in opera though
[04:52] <elijah> kubu2: k, thanks
[04:53] <elijah> dan_l: I just tested in FF and it does the same thing
[04:53] <elijah> must be an issue with flash
[04:53] <dan_l> are there blocks that kind of 'tear'
[04:53] <dan_l> Elijah:  are there like tears in your video?
[04:54] <elijah> dan_l: I have had that before and there may still be but I have been too focused on the full screen issue
[04:55] <elijah> how do I tell what graphics chipset I am using?
[04:55] <dan_l> Elijah:   what version of flash?
[04:55] <elijah> <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:56] <kubu2> elijah: you might need to do upgrade again as when your X session went away during the upgrade because the kdm service was stopped/restarted and some upgrades were not completed yet
[04:58] <elijah> kubu2: this issue happened well after the upgrade, a kind user on IRC made me a script to swap out xorg.conf files for different display configurations and when I ran the script it was looking for some stuff in the xorg.d folder and that is what went haywire, I think at least,
[04:59] <dan_l> know what?
[04:59] <kubu2> k..I normally do my upgrade on a tty bec if you are not paying attention it ask if you want to stop/restart the kdm jobs among other things
[04:59] <dan_l> I'm thinking it's not the flash the version.  I think it's the extensionn in ffx
[04:59] <dan_l> why would it work in opera and not ffx?
[05:00] <elijah> dan_l: I will try opera now
[05:00] <dan_l> Elijah:  yeah.  Let's see.  It will help us narrow down the problem.  We shall be elite kubuntu trouble shooters!!
[05:01] <elijah> i just rented a movie on Youtube and want to be able to enjoy it in all its glory! :)
[05:02] <elijah> K, Opera has the same issue for me
[05:03] <kubu2> elijah:not sure what the script did bnut you can save you /etc/X11/xorg.conf somehwere and then from a tty create another xorg.conf
[05:04] <kubu2> on a tty sudo killall kdm then sudo X -configure -a.  then sudo cp /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:04] <szal> elijah: let it run until it has fully loaded (you see loading progress from the pale red bar underneath the time progress indicator), then grab the video file from your browser cache & play w/ your favourite video player
[05:05] <dan_l> hmmmm
[05:07] <szal> "it's not rocket science, is it?!" *sing*
[05:10] <elijah> dan_l: this is my issue actually http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=rnNJGCBqXlU
[05:10] <elijah> no fix
[05:11] <dan_l> there has to be a fix.
[05:11] <dan_l> GOOGLE HARDER!!!!!!!!!
[05:11] <dan_l> :)
[05:16] <pezed> i find that i have to kill and restart plasma-desktop about once every half hour of use
[05:16] <pezed> using kde 4.6.3 from ppa (same was happening iwth 4.6.2)
[05:16] <pezed> Xorg and plasma-desktop start using a lot of CPU and eventually become unresponsive
[05:17] <pezed> any suggestions?  (i've tried disabling power management)
[05:20] <elijah> looks like youtube downloading doesn't work on movie rentals, not suprisingly...
[05:26] <dan_l> elijah:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3961779
[05:59] <jmut> hi. runing lenovo t520.  When I had optimus enabled my brightness Fn key was working. but once I disabled it it stopped working. I had to disable it because it would not accept the drivers otherwise..and 3d/settings or anything.
[05:59] <jmut> any pointers?
[06:08] <pastyhermit> Hi All, the desktop effects on my laptop have always worked flawlessly using the gnome-based ubuntu, I had installed kubuntu and they keep turning off.  How do I fix this?
[06:10] <pastyhermit> Does anyone have any thoughts?
[06:12] <pastyhermit> hrm...
[06:15] <pastyhermit> Hi All, the desktop effects on my laptop have always worked flawlessly using the gnome-based ubuntu, I had installed kubuntu and they keep turning off.  How do I fix this?
[06:15] <pastyhermit> I wonder am I silent?
[06:15] <pastyhermit> Anyone know how to fix the ... 'effects' in kubuntu?
[06:17] <preecher> mine do the same pastyhermit but i dont know the "fix"
[06:20] <pastyhermit> I think if you disable "blur" it fixes it
[06:20] <pastyhermit> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3116866.0
[06:20] <preecher> hum lemme try that
[06:21] <pastyhermit> seems to be ok for now..
[06:21] <pastyhermit> This laptop has always been just fine for effects but I have really only run the gnome-based ubuntu
[06:22] <pastyhermit> Apparently there is some issue with the blur effect and intel GPUs
[06:22] <pastyhermit> So much for asking for help on this channel...
[06:24] <preecher> i had no problems with compiz on ubuntu 10.10
[06:25] <pastyhermit> preecher: seems to be a KDE defficicency... or the 'blur' effect requires a very powerfull GPU
[06:25] <Magnusson> anyone know where kubuntu installs its plasma themes?
[06:25] <pastyhermit> Magnusson: do you know the extension of the plasma themes?
[06:25] <pastyhermit> perhaps you might try searching the directory structure?
[06:26] <Magnusson> pastyhermit>hmm no, i installed all mine from the get new stuff application actually, never done a manual install
[06:27] <pastyhermit> I think its .kth
[06:27] <pastyhermit> find / -name '*.kth' -print
[06:27] <preecher> im new to kubuntu still figuring out the little stuff like different names of the progs and how to do simple taskd
[06:28] <pastyhermit> preecher: yeah me too..
[06:28] <pastyhermit> I havent really used KDE since the 2.x series
[06:29] <Magnusson> heck i just figured out how to convert a gnome icon theme i've wanted for the past 2 months so i'm quite happy atm, on a theming roll
[06:29] <Magnusson> but other than that yeah i'm like you guys, no real clue what i'm doin hah
[06:29] <preecher> i used kde in 2006 for a few months then not long after i went to gnome and never left till unity was born
[06:31] <pastyhermit> lol
[06:31] <Magnusson> i don't get the problems with unity, i liked it
[06:31] <preecher> i will say this tho---kubuntu runs & its progs open noticbly faster than in ubuntu now--on my system anyway
[06:31] <pastyhermit> preecher: you know you dont have to use unity, if you select "classic desktop" in ubuntu, you will get the default shell
[06:32] <preecher> yea i know- guess i was just lookin for a reason to chnge
[06:34] <Magnusson> ha, who knew plasma themes only installed to your home folder. got it :)
[06:35] <r4id> hello
[06:35] <r4id> can any one help me?
[06:35] <Magnusson> depends, what's up?
[06:35] <r4id> I am running kubunutu
[06:35] <r4id> latest version a
[06:35] <r4id> i have also latest version of amarok and i am unable to use
[06:35] <r4id> media pane in amarok
[06:36] <r4id> I am able to see all my hard drives all are mounted when i click on that it's not listing all directories
[06:36] <pastyhermit> r4id: what are you trying to do?
[06:36] <Magnusson> if it makes you feel any better, my amarok works and i still find it unusable :)
[06:36] <preecher> lol
[06:36] <r4id> :|
[06:37] <pastyhermit> wasnt banshee alot better
[06:37] <r4id> i want to solve this problem..:(
[06:37] <r4id> Another problem is everytime i boot my system it's always muted
[06:37] <Magnusson> never tried banshee, i'd really just like a direct winamp clone =\
[06:37] <pastyhermit> Magnusson: xmms
[06:37] <preecher> audacious?
[06:38] <Magnusson> audacious i didn't like and xmms (at least xmms2) seems to be throwing a hissy fit, i can't ever get it to do anything
[06:38] <preecher> i just use audacious with the winmp skin
[06:39] <preecher> interface---sorry
[06:40] <pastyhermit> audacious eh
[06:40] <preecher> its wht i use --
[06:40] <Magnusson>  /eyebrow, what do you mean by interface exactly? what i'd really love is global shortcuts that work how i want
[06:40] <Magnusson> i'm giving xmms2 a try again
[06:41] <Magnusson> r4id>still not getting the problem?
[06:41] <Magnusson> r4id>have you unmuted your system in kmix?
[06:41] <preecher> under "view" tab in audacious you cn select the "winamp classic view" interfce
[06:42] <Magnusson> ah so it's basically just a skin? not a whole interface change?
[06:42] <preecher> just makes it look like winamp
[06:43] <preecher> im not really big into tunes other than listening to whatever mp3's ive converted so a small player serves me well
[06:45] <Magnusson> oh i'm great with small, i just want it to function how i want
[06:45] <pastyhermit> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38989
[06:45] <pastyhermit> winamp for linux
[06:45] <Magnusson>  /hug
[06:46] <preecher> wow thats from 2005
[06:46] <pastyhermit> beep=media-player
[06:46] <pastyhermit> apparently that download is very old
[06:49] <Magnusson> either of you guys know of a media player that has "add this folder to (audacious,xmms,etc) integrated into the shell when you right click?
[06:51] <elijah> Where do I set system sounds on Kubuntu?
[06:51] <Magnusson> elijah>if you find a way to do it all at once, lemme know!
[06:51] <Magnusson> otherwise you have to do them all one by one =\
[06:51] <Tm_T> System settings -> Notifications
[06:51] <Magnusson> but that's..yeah what Tm_T said
[06:52] <preecher> i tryn to get my mic configd now
[06:52] <elijah> I want to set it so when I hit the volume up/down buttons on my hardware keyboard I get audible feedback
[06:53] <Magnusson> preecher>when you use audacious do you just have the main window up or do you use equalizer and playlist as well?
[06:53] <Tm_T> elijah: yup, see systemsettings -> Application and System Notifications
[06:53] <Tm_T> elijah: or, prolly same can be found from kmixer -> configure notifications
[06:54] <elijah> Tm_T: thanks, I am looking now, so many options :D
[06:54] <preecher> Magnusson i just use the default display--it shows the playlist & a equlizer
[06:55] <elijah> notifications triggered by hardware devices appears to be the logical category but no entry there...
[06:55] <Magnusson> hmm
[06:58] <r4id> Nope i haven't done anything
[06:58] <r4id> but whenever i am booting my system i am suppose to unmute the voice else it won't work
[06:58] <r4id> sorry for delay reply..:|
[07:01] <elijah> under input devices for keyboard it lists a key click volume but that does not appear to do anything to key presses.
[07:02] <Magnusson> preecher_>i think you've made a convert
[07:02] <preecher_> Magnusson i like it---i dont need all that radio station jazz
[07:03] <Magnusson> oh yeah i agree, i never likeda ll that last.fm stuff either
[07:03] <Magnusson> if i wanted to add a radio station i'd just add the station to my playlist manually
[07:03] <preecher_> but im not enjoying this trip down microphone row
[07:04] <Magnusson> now if i could just get audacious to add folders by right clicking
[07:26] <elijah> preecher_ what is wrong with your mic?
[07:26] <rethus> i have natty. if i restart my pc, sound is always muted.
[07:26] <rethus> how can i disable this?
[07:28] <pirattero> wolaas
[07:28] <pirattero> que os peten
[07:29] <Magnusson> rethus>are you r4id?
[07:29] <Magnusson> rethus>and do you have "start saved session from last time" enabled?
[07:30] <evilspiral> @Rethus: Did You Change Your GUI For Natty?
[07:31] <rethus> no, start no saved session - i think. is set all to default
[07:31] <rethus> and no, i still have kde - nothing changed
[07:33] <evilspiral> @rethus: Do You Prefer The New Look And Workings Of Natty?
[07:33] <rethus> what s the new look?
[07:33] <Magnusson> rethus>i believe start session from last time IS the default, but if you're sure that's not the case then hmm..
[07:34] <rethus> i have disable it fo a long time, cause it breaks my kontact-startp
[07:35] <evilspiral> Click The Power Button At The Top Right Corner...
[07:36] <evilspiral> Click "System"
[07:37] <evilspiral> Then Click "Login Screen"
[07:37] <rethus> evilspiral:this is kde...no power-btn on top right corner
[07:40] <evilspiral> Sorry rethus I Thought You Had Natty Ubuntu...
[07:40] <rethus> no problem
[07:43] <evilspiral> How Do You Like KDE?
[07:45] <Scan> hi
[07:45] <Scan> How to set size of konsole?
[07:45] <Magnusson> Scan>right click and configure?
[07:45] <Magnusson> if that's what ya mean
[07:48] <Scan> Magnusson but you can resize using the triangle in to the right?
[07:48] <Scan> because I crashed
[07:48] <Magnusson> hmm, honestly i use yakuake, but lemme experiment
[07:49] <Scan> a
[07:49] <Scan> ok
[07:49] <Magnusson> you're just wanting to resize the whole window eh?
[07:50] <Scan> I wanted to know if the other crashed
[07:50] <Scan> because I was using gnome until 2 days ago
[07:51] <Magnusson> if it's just resizing the window , i'm able to just grab the bottom right corner and resize it like you would a normal window
[07:53] <Scan> Keep in mind that I have to translate what we write (eng only), but I can not even maximize the window that blocks all
[07:53] <tsimpson> Scan: do you use the nvidia driver?
[07:54] <Scan> yes
[07:54] <tsimpson> Scan: it's a known issue, see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/760632
[07:56] <Magnusson> ah luckily i haven't had an issue with that, but yeah seems by and large we nvidia users are screwed =\
[07:57] <Magnusson> Scan>try a different driver maybe?
[07:57] <tsimpson> there's not much "we" can do about nvidia driver issues, only nvidia can fix it
[07:57] <Scan> I have to wait for someone to speak Italian so I take a huge effort
[07:59] <tsimpson> Scan: there is #ubuntu-it for support in Italian language
[07:59] <DarkwingDuck> Scan: Something you might want to look at as a replacement for konsole is Yakuake. It stays hidden till you use F12 to have it drop down. Very nice.
[08:00]  * DarkwingDuck remembers when nvidia was the way to go for Linux video
[08:00] <Scan> tsimpson thanks a lot but now there's' no!
[08:00] <Magnusson> lol DarkwingDuck
[08:00] <DarkwingDuck> ATI was years behind nvidia for linux support... I guess the grass is always greener
[08:01] <tsimpson> I'll stick with my perfectly working intel gpu thanks :)
[08:01] <DarkwingDuck> Well, my laptop has nvidia so, not so bad.
[08:01] <DarkwingDuck> Konsole is the only issue I've ever had but, I fixed it with yakuake
[08:02] <tsimpson> if you're the type of person who _always_ has a terminal open, yakuake is the perfect app
[08:02] <evilspiral> So I Have A Question For The Room... What Is Everyones Prefered Programming Language?
[08:03] <DarkwingDuck> tsimpson: irssi from my server and my dev work
[08:03] <tsimpson> evilspiral: you'll probably get a response in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:04] <tsimpson> DarkwingDuck: I just use the terminal for... everything
[08:05] <DarkwingDuck> tsimpson: yeah, 99% of what I do is terminal based.
[08:09] <floown> hello
[08:10] <floown> I can't share my two PC with samba, between a Windows Seven and a Kubuntu
[08:10] <floown> I have create a new user on my Kubuntu, with smbpasswd
[08:11] <floown> but I can't access from Windows
[08:11] <floown> I see the folder, but when I try to open it, a message prompt ask my login and password
[08:17] <Magnusson> yeah yakuake is the shit
[08:25] <rethus> so i have now used alsamixer - rejust the settings, and use alsactc store
[08:26] <rethus> reboot... and : Same thing like before... sound is muted and much to loud
[08:26] <rethus> if i unmute
[08:27] <rethus> till kubuntu use pulseaudio. i only have problems with sound.
[08:28] <rethus> realy bad choice to use it
[09:02] <giantpune> hi boys, im having an issue with gksu.  whenever i type in my password, it says that it is incorrect.  the password works correctly in su and sudo.  does anyboyd have any ideas about how to debug it or what might be going wrong?
[09:05] <rethus> maybe special-chars in it
[09:06] <giantpune> there are not any special characters.  it contains only letters in the english alphabet
[09:07] <giantpune> i found this bug  but it doesnt provide any info about fixing it.  only that using sudo instead is a workaround.     https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gksu/+bug/624095
[09:09] <tsimpson> giantpune: it says "Running gksu-properties and changing authentication mode to sudo fixes the problem", or you can just use kdesudo
[09:11] <giantpune> indeed.  im new to kubuntu.  i forgot all about kdesudo.  thanks
[09:20] <jussi> giantpune: also, I think using gksudo also fixes the issue ;)
[09:21] <giantpune> ok, next issue.  where do themes get installed to in kubuntu 10.10?  my desktop theme is not applied to any programs run as root, but i dont know where to find them to copy to a more global position
[09:26] <tsimpson> giantpune: in ~/.kde/share/apps/desktoptheme
[09:28] <tsimpson> giantpune: if you want to customize how apps ran as root look, run "kdesudo systemsettings" and change the Desktop Theme under Workspace Appearance
[09:28] <eggonlegs> does anyone know how to set konsole's colorscheme via cli?
[09:28] <eggonlegs> using a .colorscheme file I mean
[09:28] <eggonlegs> I put a new one in .kde/share/apps/konsole/
[09:28] <eggonlegs> but it doesn't show up in the gui
[09:29] <eggonlegs> in the chooser screen where you can edit things
[09:29] <giantpune> tsimpson, it would be nice if i could just copy these themes to some folder in /usr and then the programs run as root would use my theme and i wouldnt need to change settings 2x whenever i change them
[09:30] <tsimpson> giantpune: how would the app know to use your theme?
[09:30] <giantpune> not sure.  but it works like this in ubuntu.  i was hoping that it would be the same in kubuntu
[09:32] <tsimpson> I don't use ubuntu so I can't really comment, but it's probably a hack in ubuntu
[09:32] <tsimpson> root is just another user, so it has its own settings etc
[10:04] <Goliath> how can i mount a gbp image?
[11:49] <svenn> Hi, I'm having problems compiling Python 2.5 with zlib, anyone else having this issue using 11.04?
[12:00] <k0s> ggĂĽpĂĽ
[12:00] <k0s> pĂĽ
[12:00] <k0s> k.l
[12:00] <k0s> ooo
[12:00] <szal> please clean your keyboard in another channel ;)
[12:53] <vandenoever> i just updated from kubuntu 9.04 to 11.04 and now my LVM volumes are not recognized any more
[12:53] <vandenoever> i have a software raid on sdc+sdd and on there i have lvm volumes
[12:54] <vandenoever> the raid is fine, but the lvm volumes are not recognized at all
[12:54] <vandenoever> pvscan and lvscan both report nothing
[12:54] <vandenoever> en.wikipedia.org/
[12:54] <vandenoever> oops
[13:05] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[13:49] <erebus> hola
[13:49] <erebus> how can i upgrade wine from 1.2.2 to 1.3.6 ?
[13:51] <erebus> ?
[13:54] <erebus> how can i upgrade wine from 1.2.2 to 1.3.6 ?
[13:57] <Belial> erebus: from memory, install the wine 1.3 package
[13:57] <Belial> wine1.3 sorry
[13:58] <slinker1> wine ppa has only 1.3.19 lloks like
[14:02] <erebus> Belial: if i get wine1.3 do i lose the regular wine?
[14:28] <Belial> it will upgrade the one in place, yes
[14:30] <Belial> I'm unsure of the backwards compatability of the version, I'd read the release notes and backup ~/.wine to be safe
[14:30] <eagles0513875> and Belial if you upgrade wine
[14:30] <eagles0513875> you will lose the other version installed
[14:31] <eagles0513875> just a lil fyi as i noticed it was asked in here earlier
[14:36] <szal> not sure why anyone would deem that a problem
[14:55] <pigeonflight> Good Day!
[15:01] <BluesKaj> hi
[15:01] <BluesKaj> scrn froze had to do a remote reboot
[15:02] <BluesKaj> KDE 4.6.3 , still has a few glitches
[15:03] <pigeonflight> BluesKaj: What happened with it?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> was checking out umbrello and it froze the scrn at launch , disabled the mouse and KB as well
[15:04] <pigeonflight> BluesKaj:
[15:04] <pigeonflight> BluesKaj: but not a kernel freeze?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> was able to reboot by ssh from our other linux pc
[15:05] <BluesKaj> hate hard shutdowns
[15:07] <Magnusson> is there a way to update aliases without relogging?
[15:07] <pigeonflight> BluesKaj: Don't all UNIX heads?
[15:07] <pigeonflight> Magnusson: just type it
[15:07] <pigeonflight> Magnusson: how did you change it?
[15:08] <Magnusson> my .bashrc points to .bash_aliases, and i changed some stuff in .bash_aliases
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Magnusson, sudo nano ~/.bashrc
[15:08] <pigeonflight> Magnusson: source ~/.bash_aliases
[15:10] <Magnusson> pigeonflight>i think that was it :)
[15:11] <pigeonflight> Magnusson: You are welcome
[15:11] <pigeonflight> you can use . as a shortcut for the source command
[15:11] <MaximLevitsky> no need in sudo to edit files in home folder!
[15:11] <pigeonflight> MaximLevitsky: Good point
[15:11] <Magnusson> oh yes if it needed to be said outloud, excuse my VERY implied thank you :)
[15:12] <pigeonflight> Magnusson: somethings are best left not implied :)
[15:12] <BluesKaj> hmm, I don't have a seperate ~/.bash_aliases file
[15:12] <Magnusson> pigeonflight>very true hehe, i just got so overwhelmingly excited that someone knew
[15:12] <pigeonflight> BluesKaj: You'd have to make it. I'm guessing that Magnusson has quite a few aliases to manage
[15:13] <Magnusson> BluesKaj>nod i made my own file
[15:13] <BluesKaj> true , MaximLevitsky , force of habit
[15:13] <Magnusson> pigeonflight>hmm would "touch ~./bash_aliases" done the same thing? i just thought of that
[15:13] <pigeonflight> BluesKaj: I have a funny FOH story bout -rf :)
[15:13] <pigeonflight> Magnusson: not even close
[15:13] <Magnusson> pigeonflight> lol does your story involve rm -rf /?
[15:14] <Magnusson> and no? aww :(
[15:14] <pigeonflight> both because ~./ will give an error and because touch does not affect your shell's environment
[15:14] <Magnusson> ah
[15:14] <pigeonflight> type help source
[15:16] <BluesKaj> Magnusson, when i first got into linux 7 or so yrs ago, someone told me to use the rm -rf command ,,, once I reinstalled I reorted the guy to the debian ops ...they kicked him...it wasn't the first time :)
[15:16] <Magnusson> ROFL woooow
[15:16] <Magnusson> nice
[15:16] <BluesKaj> yup
[15:18] <pigeonflight> It's a auto ban here as well
[15:18] <BluesKaj> debian was my first real usable distro , ubuntu came out about a yr later iirc , so i naturally migrated
[15:18] <pigeonflight> That's just mean
[15:18] <pigeonflight> For package version numbers that didn't have spiders and cobwebs as complimentary ?
[15:19] <Magnusson> yeah, in fact i installed a virtual machine(with the intention of messing it up) and did it just so i could say i have once
[15:19] <pigeonflight> I was teaching a redhat course and one guy went nuts when he figured out that it was test servers
[15:19] <BluesKaj> well, I learned a valuable lesson , be careful and verify commands given on google etc
[15:19] <pigeonflight> he startedrunning all the commands he's lways been told never to run
[15:19] <Magnusson> pigeonflight>rofl
[15:20] <pigeonflight> last day he got up and ran rm -rf / and started laughing manically
[15:20] <Magnusson> hahah silly kid in candy store
[15:20] <BluesKaj> :>))
[15:20] <Magnusson> he had much the same reaction that i had to you telling me about source
[15:20] <pigeonflight> Trashed the whole system and was amused to see that the programs were still running and the GUI was up
[15:20] <Magnusson> "omg i got a new toy must run off and play!" *runs back* oh, thank you grandma
[15:21] <pigeonflight> Ha ha :)
[15:21]  * BluesKaj sense the OT cops lurking :)
[15:21] <BluesKaj> senses
[15:21] <Magnusson> which i think is how i'm gonna have to teach my mom how to use a computer, make a dummy test install of windows and tell her to go nuts, she's so afraid to do anything
[15:22] <Magnusson> pigeonflight>any idea why certain aliases just echo parts of the file now? =\
[15:23] <BluesKaj> sounds like my wife ...wxcept now she has this convoluted way of accessing stuff on the net ...it drives me up a wall :)
[15:23] <Magnusson> hah yeah doesn't it? i pissed off a professor once, he went through this 10 min explanation to the class and i just looked at him with the dog head tilt and raised my hand bc i couldn't keep quiet and was just like "you know you can just right click for that to happen right?"
[15:24] <Magnusson> he was most displeased
[15:24] <BluesKaj> rather than make a bookmark , she goes into an old email with a link to get to sites in some cases
[15:24] <Magnusson> hahah oh wow
[15:26] <BluesKaj> I show her stuff and promptly forgets , because it makes no sense to her
[15:27] <Magnusson> lol same with mom, drives me crazy, i'm like why would you possibly do or think to do that?? why would you think you need to check your email to see what's wrong with your printer
[15:27] <BluesKaj> she's smarter than me acdemically , but pcs just bring down the curtain
[15:28] <pigeonflight> Magnusson: I have no idea what your aliases are so .. no
[15:28] <Magnusson> pigeonflight>i think i got it, it was the & at the end
[15:28] <pigeonflight> I doubt that but ok :)
[15:29] <pigeonflight> BluesKaj: Each person has  competency let them enjoy it
[15:29] <Magnusson> BluesKaj>heh i tend to prefer women who are smarter than me, but less experienced. that way i can at least FEEL like i'm teaching them something when i tell them about this or that, even though they could make me look like a moron
[15:30] <claviceps___> like opening a website through typing "www.google.com" in the address bar and then googling for the adderes of the site :D
[15:30] <Magnusson> lol
[15:31] <BluesKaj> yeah, I've learned patience ...we've been married over 40 yrs..we're both retired old fogies (almost), and I think patience has forced it's way into my personality and character :)
[15:32] <Magnusson> heh that tends to get beaten in the hard way
[15:32] <pigeonflight> Good quality in general but well valued in a marriage
[15:32]  * pigeonflight gets the BluesKaj  sense tingling
[15:33] <Magnusson> and in programming/linux
[15:33] <Magnusson> there, now not OT :)
[15:34] <Magnusson> pigeonflight>if you fancy yourself as good with aliases as i get the impression you are, i have another question heh. should be simple
[15:34] <claviceps___> any idea why konact would crash when trying to open the preferences?
[15:34] <pigeonflight> claviceps___: what version?
[15:35] <claviceps___> Version 4.4.10 it says
[15:35] <claviceps___> it worked before when i disabled mail and other things, now i want them back and it just crashed :/
[15:36] <pigeonflight> claviceps___: run it from the command line and see if it gives you an error message
[15:36] <claviceps___> no much, just this: QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 11 and type 'Read', disabling...
[15:36] <claviceps___> KCrash: Application 'kontact' crashing...
[15:39] <BluesKaj> I've been try to get a script to work for automounting media folders by sshfs on my other linux machine , the folder reside here on the out medis-server pc . Sometimes I prefer to watch a movie on the my den-pc . I found a script and placed in /etc/init.d/ that should work but it errors out ...guess I should look further , but's hard to find simple methods without using NFS , which shouldn't be necessary IMO.
[15:41] <szal> no way to do that through /etc/fstab?
[15:41] <claviceps___> BluesKaj: just putting it in /etc/init.d/ won't do anything; it has to be called by the runlevel
[15:42] <James147> BluesKaj: just use /etc/fstab with the net_dev option (if i remember correctly)
[15:42] <BluesKaj> claviceps___, yes , I updated rc.d , isn't that correct ?
[15:43] <James147> ^^ at least there is an option to delay mounting untill hte network is up
[15:43] <James147> _netdev i think
[15:45] <Magnusson> cool got it working as intended now, thanks pigeonflight :) big help
[15:46] <BluesKaj> James147, I just want to mount a couple of folders . I thought fstab was for mounting devices
[15:46] <James147> BluesKaj: it used to mount anything
[15:46] <James147> BluesKaj: it dosnt care what being mounted... if you can do it though a mount command then fstab can do it
[15:46] <pigeonflight> Magnusson: sure, no prob
[15:47] <BluesKaj> James147, so the init.d method isn't needed ?
[15:48] <James147> BluesKaj: not unless your doing somethig funky like backing up to it during boot :s... but no, not for mounting
[15:48] <BluesKaj> James147, yes , I can mount the folder manually using sshfs , just want auto mount them
[15:48] <BluesKaj> folders
[15:50] <James147> BluesKaj: then why cant you use fstab?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> James147, ok , I'll do some research ..the syntax is bit confusing to me , but I'll check it out
[15:52] <James147> BluesKaj: well, what mount command do you use?
[15:52] <sisa_> hola, alguien me dice una aplicacion para crear una ip oculta?
[15:52] <szal> !es | sisa_
[15:53] <James147> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[15:53] <James147> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS
[15:53] <James147> opps :S
[15:53] <DarthFrog> In stereo, no less. :-)
[15:55] <szal> DarthFrog: yes, if you turn your head or your screen 90 degrees :P
[16:05] <Goliath> how can i run jack server?
[16:32] <pigeonflight> BluesKaj: Linux can't really mount devices. It can start devices. it mounts file systems. Which is why you cn mount an ISO file which is on another device or mount some fake file systems onto a RAM drive.
[16:32] <pigeonflight> !jack
[16:32] <erebus> were new updates for ubuntu just release?
[16:33] <genii-around> erebus: Please don't crosspost the same question over multiple channels
[16:34] <erebus> genii-around: still is it true
[16:34] <erebus> ?
[16:34] <szal> erebus: you can check that yourself, no need to ask, let alone in multiple channels
[16:35] <erebus> i want to see if that is for others also
[16:35] <szal> you want to see if what is for others?
[16:45] <pigeonflight> szal: guess we won't know now
[16:47] <erebus> hey do i run (jackd -d alsa &> /dev/null &) with sudo or not? I want to select jack in winecfg,
[16:47] <BluesKaj> pigeonflight, ok ,devices is apoor choice of words , should have said filesystem, folders etc
[16:48] <pigeonflight> Why the double & ?
[16:52] <James147> BluesKaj: yup, and sshfs is a filesystem :) so fstab should beable to mount i
[16:59] <pigeonflight> Ha nice Microsoft is rumoured to buy Nokia's mobile division by next month
[17:06] <blackmoon> hi, under natty bluetooth is enable only if i reboot from windows 7, if i shut down and turn on the bt is disabled. how fix this?
[17:39] <TheSqueak> does anyone know if there's any way to set it so that either different desktops or different activities have different panels on them?
[18:09] <tarun> hey please can anyone tell me how to install c++in kubuntu
[18:11] <pigeonflight> tarun: install build-essential
[18:14] <tarun> I install this packege
[18:14] <tarun> then what???
[18:15] <genii-around> !compile
[18:27] <jmcantrell_> does two finger scrolling work with synaptics in natty?
[18:39] <TheSqueak> ok
[18:39] <TheSqueak> anyone know anything about the sudoers file?
[18:39] <TheSqueak> specifically, what's wrong with this line:
[18:39] <TheSqueak> james   ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/apt-get update, /usr/bin/apt-get upgrade
[18:42] <ikonia> TheSqueak: how did you edit it ?
[18:42] <TheSqueak> with visudo
[18:42] <ikonia> it normally says if there is an error
[18:42] <TheSqueak> no complaints about the syntax
[18:43] <TheSqueak> but it keeps asking me for a password for the bits it shouldn't be
[18:43] <ikonia> TheSqueak: should be fine then
[18:43] <ikonia> what's the exact command you're using
[18:43] <TheSqueak> I have apt-get aliased to sudo apt-get in my .bashrc
[18:44] <TheSqueak> so I should be able to do "apt-get update" without worrying about a password
[18:44] <ikonia> try it unaliased
[18:44] <tarun> I install all the stuffs.......now what to do???
[18:44] <BluesKaj> apt-get install or apt-get remove , or update
[18:44] <BluesKaj> TheSqueak, you need to add an action
[18:45] <TheSqueak> ?
[18:45] <ikonia> TheSqueak: unalias the command and see what it does
[18:46] <tarun> ???
[18:46] <TheSqueak> still asks for a password when I sudo it ikonia
[18:47] <ikonia> TheSqueak: so the exact command your using is......
[18:47] <BluesKaj> TheSqueak, .I use in='sudo apt-get install'
[18:47] <szal> tarun: you follow the instructions that come w/ the source code you want to compile
[18:47] <TheSqueak> sudo apt-get update
[18:47] <BluesKaj> or whatever you want alias it as
[18:48] <ikonia> TheSqueak: one moment
[18:48] <BluesKaj> to alias it as
[18:48] <Peace-> BluesKaj: hola'
[18:48] <BluesKaj> hiyas Peace-
[18:49] <BluesKaj> doing some jiggery pokery with fstab and sshfs mounting remote folders
[18:50] <BluesKaj> bloody frustrating
[18:51] <new2net> ah OK :p so I could never get Kubuntu to work- the installer (including the alt) don't work. But I went ahead and got Ubuntu 11.04. But now I forget what the KDE desktop is called; something like this(?): sudo apt-get install kde-desktop, KDE-pwn-sauce
[18:52] <ikonia> TheSqueak: I've just tested it and it works fine on a Fedora machine as a rule, I tried yum update, fine no passwd, I did "yum" and "yum install" it asked me for a password then told me I wasn't authorized (as it should)
[18:52] <genii-around> new2net: kubuntu-desktop
[18:52] <new2net> genii-around: thank you, that will include packages like Kate etc?
[18:53] <genii-around> new2net: Yup
[18:53] <TheSqueak> ikonia: cheers for trying that
[18:54] <ikonia> TheSqueak: rule is valid,
[18:54] <new2net> i thought yum was only for RHEL
[18:54] <erebus> how do i install oss?
[18:54] <TheSqueak> wait
[18:54] <TheSqueak> worked it out
[18:54]  * TheSqueak is an idiot
[18:54] <ikonia> do tell
[18:55] <TheSqueak> I had that line before the one which said "%sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL"
[18:55] <TheSqueak> and as i'm in the sudo group
[18:55] <TheSqueak> those permissions were overwriting the NOPASSWD ones i'd specified earlier
[18:56] <TheSqueak> like I said, idiot :)
[18:56] <ikonia> that makes sense
[18:59] <new2net> genii-around: you're sure this isn't criminal that I get so much free software just by typing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[19:01] <genii-around> new2net: Entirely legal. as for the questionable codecs, you'll have to check medibuntu or so on
[19:06] <Sparrowminer> ciao
[19:10] <Sparrowminer> ciao
[19:15] <new2net> genii-around: now that kdm is my default xwindow thingy(?), I just restart xserver with ctrl + alt + backspace and I should be oK?
[19:17] <Sparrowminer> ciao
[19:18] <genii-around> new2net: kdm is likely your new window managaer now, yes
[19:20] <szal> s/window/display/
[19:20] <genii-around> szal: :)
[19:21] <new2net> yeah, the wording on that was too much for me I just put thingy(?)--  :)
[19:21] <new2net> and it uses X11 right?
[19:25] <rosco_y> I'm getting a warning when I run the gnome-system-monitor from the command line:  "WARNING **: SELinux was found but is not enabled."  Should I worry about this?
[19:26] <szal> SELinux on *buntu? :o
[19:26] <szal> other than that..  warnings are purely informational & don't keep you from doing stuff
[19:26] <rosco_y> szal: no worries then?
[19:27] <rosco_y> I'm not serving ftp, or http or anything like that
[19:27] <rosco_y> I don't really even know what SELinux is...
[19:27] <rosco_y> other than it has something to do with security
[19:29] <DarthFrog> SELinux is Security Enhanced Linux.  It is a security hardening of Linux, done by the US National Security Agency
[19:30] <DarthFrog> Fedora/Red Hat uses selinux by default.  I believe that AppArmour is the Ubuntu equivalent (but am not sure about that at all).
[19:31] <DarthFrog> !apparmor
[19:47] <rosco_y> Does anyone know how to install  Mono.NET 4.0 on ubuntu?
[19:48] <Peace-> rosco_y: mono?
[19:48] <Peace-> rosco_y: we don't need that stuff
[19:49] <rosco_y> Peace-: :) Thank you.  I guess it depends on what you're doing :)
[19:50] <Moji> hi all
[19:50] <rosco_y> hi Moji
[19:51] <Moji> hey i could not repair my X
[19:51] <rosco_y> Moji: What did you try?
[19:51] <rosco_y> Are you booting to the command line right now?
[19:52] <rosco_y> or is your resolution not right--what's "not working"?
[19:52] <Moji> no
[19:52] <Moji> my problem is tha
[19:52] <rosco_y> I'm gonna take a wild guess, you're able to connect to the internet, right?
[19:53] <Moji> when i start kubuntu after loading
[19:53] <Moji> dont go to a Ui loging
[19:53] <rosco_y> ok....
[19:53] <rosco_y> it automatically logs in?
[19:53] <new2net> genii-around: kdm is indeed my new window manager. Unfortunately it's basically TTY + a desktop background. What went wrong? The login screen works, the boot splash works... There are no menus, i log in and get a terminal :p just enough to drop down to tty1 and restart X w/ gdm
[19:54] <Moji> just a terminal  ask me username
[19:54] <Moji> pass
[19:54] <Moji> and next
[19:55] <Moji> i should write sudo startx to have  UI
[19:55] <rosco_y> Well, I'm pretty new to Linux as well, but I'll go and see if I can find something....
[19:55] <genii-around> Moji: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdm
[19:56] <rosco_y> Moji: I found this --- http://fclose.com/b/linux/1768/nvidia-driver-in-linux-not-displaying-logo-during-booting/
[19:56] <rosco_y> although it looks like genii-around's idea would be much simpler
[19:57] <Moji> genii-around:thanks
[19:57] <Moji> rosco_y : thanks
[19:57] <genii-around> Moji: This should work if you are just missing some display manager.
[19:58] <rosco_y> Moji: sure thing...good luck!
[20:00] <Moji> ok i m going to reboot
[20:00] <Moji> i hope
[20:01] <securityxxxpert> Anybody able to get Compiz working instead of Kwin for an Nvidia 9800 gt graphics card?
[20:03] <rosco_y> securityxxxpert: I'm using the same card, what is Compiz?
[20:04] <securityxxxpert> rosco_y:  Just a fancy window manager, more advanced than kwin
[20:04] <securityxxxpert> does all the nifty effects like cubed desktop, exploding windows etc
[20:04] <rosco_y> I found it in wiki....looks real nice
[20:04] <rosco_y> I run into problems when I try to use the fancy window managers, so I just stick to the basics
[20:04] <securityxxxpert> My only issues is my friggin box will freeze
[20:05] <securityxxxpert> shouldn't happen I have quad core 2.8 ghz processors and 12 gigs ddr3 ram
[20:05] <rosco_y> I have been able to turn the effects on, but my system will freeze after a bit
[20:05] <rosco_y> my guess it's the card.
[20:05] <securityxxxpert> rosco_y: Naw it's not hte card
[20:05] <securityxxxpert> The card worked great on gnome
[20:05] <rosco_y> I have a nice AMD cpu and 8 gigs ram, I have the same trouble
[20:06] <claviceps_> securityxxxpert: when you open new windows? cause that hangs my system after the update :/
[20:06] <securityxxxpert> Yeah I really think it's a bug within kwin
[20:06] <securityxxxpert> claviceps: the freezing happens at random times
[20:06] <securityxxxpert> closing windows, opening windows, etc
[20:06] <rosco_y> maybe so, but I'd rather have simple windows that work, then to mess around rebooting all the time
[20:06] <claviceps_> but it involves windows?
[20:07] <securityxxxpert> claviceps: It involves what I just said
[20:07] <claviceps_> i.e. a redraw
[20:07] <rosco_y> When I make my next million I'll worry about fancy window managers....
[20:08] <rosco_y> securityxxxpert: I personally think it's the prorietary drivers
[20:09] <rosco_y> I'm using the NVIDIA drivers, but it's only since NVIDIA's recent upgrades that they've been remotely useable for me.
[20:09] <rosco_y> and I'm not a demanding graphics user.
[20:10] <rosco_y> I have dual monitors, and I like multiple workspaces, but other than that I run a pretty plain system here.
[20:11] <securityxxxpert> rosco_y:  Naw man try it on Ubuntu 11.04
[20:11] <securityxxxpert> it will work fine
[20:11] <securityxxxpert> I'm testing different idea's I have now for compiz
[20:11] <rosco_y> I am up to 11.04...
[20:12] <securityxxxpert> rosco_y:  Your using Kubuntu 11.04 right
[20:12] <rosco_y> right
[20:12] <rosco_y> just installed it the other night
[20:12] <securityxxxpert> Kubuntu != Ubuntu
[20:12] <securityxxxpert> Ubuntu uses gnome, Kubuntu uses kde
[20:12] <rosco_y> actually I guess I am using Ubuntu
[20:12] <rosco_y> and gnome, I believe....
[20:13] <rosco_y> I started out thinking that KDE changed a bit, but have slowly been realizing I'm actually using gnome
[20:13] <rosco_y> it's working well, so I don't want to fix that :)
[20:14] <rosco_y> I just want to get to where I can get back to work....I was running openSUSE, and I messed that to the point where a redo was impending, so I decided to try ubuntu again
[20:14] <rosco_y> I like ubuntu.
[20:15] <securityxxxpert> I'll be back later
[20:15] <rosco_y> ok
[20:15] <rosco_y> see ya
[20:15] <rosco_y> Does anyone have the opinion that installing kde after installing ubuntu would be aproximately the same as installing kubuntu?
[20:16] <rosco_y> I do like kde
[20:18] <niky> !list
[20:18] <niky> !list
[20:19] <genii-around> !it
[20:21] <niky> !list
[20:22] <niky_> !list
[20:24]  * szal shakes his head in disbelief
[20:25]  * new2net knows that each attempt to launch kdm correctly makes him die inside a little. So close he keeps telling himself.
[20:26] <szal> new2net: ?
[20:27] <new2net> I have all the apps. When I boot I get the Kubuntu loading screen + login screen. I login and all I get is a terminal and the Kubuntu default background.
[20:28] <new2net> At least kdm is running and im booting from my HD. A lot closer than I was yesterday.
[20:29] <genii-around> new2net: Have you tried right-click on desktop and "Add Panel" then "Default Panel" from in the submenu there?
[20:31] <new2net> genii-around: No (I didn't try). I was about to ask if I had to configure the whole 9 yards from the terminal as some kind of initiation, but I didn't want to sound too condescending.
[20:33] <genii-around> new2net: It may also be that you have a screen size which is larger than the physical screen it is displaying on, causing only a partial area to show. If you bring cursor to bottom of screen and try to keep going past bottom it may scroll entire thing upwards until you see a bottom bar
[20:35] <new2net> genii-around: yes I have a very odd monitor (Samsung DLP). Most linux distros leave me with the challenge of guessing where the font config is just so I can read things (even the terminal).
[20:53] <shane4kubuntu> does anyone esle find that the bug report thing is about useless?  I have yet to find a bug it reports, even after I install the dgb symbols stuff.
[20:56] <volty> anybody had & fixed problems adding feeds to akregator from within firefox ?
[21:22] <rats__> Hi all I was trying to track a network proublem. I'm using Kubuntu 10.04. When I download the .ogg episode65 http://mintcast.org/wp-content/uploads/mintcast_published/mintcast065.ogg it will not play in VLC-is anyone else expierencing this proublem
[21:30] <szal> rats__: start VLC on the cmdline & observe error msgs while trying to play the file
[21:33] <Belial> Hi There, is it possible to replace the KDE network manager applet with the gnome one?
[21:33] <Belial> I'm finding the lack of options / feedback quite restrictive
[21:39] <rats__> szal: here is the output http://pastebin.com/1ffc86nV
[21:39] <rats__> szal: herb is the output http://pastebin.com/1ffc86nV
[21:40] <szal> rats__: install libdvdcss
[21:41] <szal> (don't ask me where to get it, I'd have to look that up myself)
[21:41] <szal> [0x8480770] access_file access error: cannot open file mintcast065.ogg (No such file or directory)
[21:42] <szal> libdvdcss likely won't remedy that, but it's helpful for watching DVDs
[21:42] <will__> Hi all, kubuntu natty, I have black screen when goiing to tty1 CTRL ALT F1
[21:42] <will__> I am not able to get fix in forums
[21:43] <szal> analog output?  try digital output, if available
[21:44] <szal> rats__: [0xb73010b0] main input error: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'mintcast065.ogg'. Check the log for details. <- see in /var/log, if you have a VLC logfile there
[21:47] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[21:48] <OerHeks> may need reboot, not sure.
[21:50] <Keshl> Why not just save the file to your hard drive and play it..?
[21:51] <Keshl> CD into a direction, do "wget (URL)", then vlc ./foo.ogg
[22:09] <dniMretsaM> hello all
[22:10] <wn1zid> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Karmic#DVD_Playback_Capability
[22:32] <asraniel> hello. is it normal that kontact cannot connect to kwallet anymore?
[22:33] <asraniel> i mean, i know its not normal, but i wanted to know if other people experience this
[22:55] <szal> asraniel: I had a similar problem the other day when moving my kdewallet to a different dir, had to re-enter all the credentials
[23:00] <CQN> hi, i just set up 11.04 on a machine, and every time i log in, i get a 'mobile broadband wizard' popup
[23:00] <CQN> how do i disable this?
[23:27] <mino> hi guys. Whats the console name for the kde settings manager?
[23:28] <mino> i want to launch it by console
[23:28] <ArchangelSe7en> systemsetting
[23:35] <shane4kubuntu> knotify4 is using 100% of cpu???
[23:38] <shane4kubuntu> so no one knows of knotify4 using 100% of one of the cpus?


[15:08] <jcastro> hey guys, so the guys at Feral found a few people willing to bring back mesa 13 and friends to a PPA
[15:08] <jcastro> I was thinking we could cordon off an area of ~graphics-drivers for mesa and AMD stuff?
[15:09] <tjaalton> I'm about to email you+them
[15:10] <jcastro> cool
[15:10] <jcastro> they must have been busy mailing people while the US was on holiday, it did not take them long at all to find a few folks willing to help.


[06:42] <mikesilver> hi!!!! everybody!
[06:43] <mikesilver> Could anyone help me?
[06:45] <mikesilver> I can´t install exfat-fuse and exfat-utils on ubuntu server 14.04.2 LTS :-(
[06:46] <sarnold> what errors do you get?
[06:46] <mikesilver> It is assumed that already comes in the universe repository but i cant install it
[06:47] <mikesilver> "E: Unable to locate package exfat-fuse"
[06:48] <sarnold> do you get any reasonable-looking output from this? grep universe /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:48] <mikesilver> look:
[06:49] <mikesilver> em… if i post all content of grep the moderator banned me, right?
[06:50] <mikesilver> deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main universe multiverse
[06:50] <mikesilver> deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted universe multiverse
[06:50] <mikesilver> deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security main universe multiverse
[06:50] <mikesilver> deb http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates main universe multiverse
[06:50] <mikesilver> deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security main restricted universe multiverse
[06:50] <mikesilver> deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[06:50] <mikesilver> deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[06:50] <mikesilver> deb-src http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[06:53] <sarnold> mikesilver2: have you run apt-get update lately?
[06:53] <mikesilver> yes
[06:54] <mikesilver> yes
[06:54] <mikesilver> update, upgrade
[06:55] <sarnold> did you get any errors from that?
[06:56] <mikesilver> noup
[06:56] <mikesilver> anything
[06:56] <sarnold> I downloaded the mx.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Packages.bz2 and found exfat-fuse, and those files do exist under pool/universe/f/fuse-exfat/exfat-fuse_1.0.1-1_amd64.deb ...
[06:56] <mikesilver> nothing
[06:58] <mikesilver> so what happens?
[06:58] <mikesilver> my instalation is clean
[06:58] <mikesilver> one hour aprox xD
[06:59] <mikesilver> it never happened to me
[07:00] <sarnold> mikesilver: try this zgrep exfat-fuse /var/lib/apt/lists/*trusty* | wc -l
[07:00] <mikesilver> i just installed Webmin
[07:00] <sarnold> yikes
[07:01] <sarnold> firewall that thing so that you can access it from only whatever IP addresses you actually use
[07:01] <mikesilver> result of command: 2
[07:01] <sarnold> those "web consoles" are the most common intrusion point for hacks..
[07:02] <mikesilver> i know.. but my server is for home test ^_`
[07:03] <mikesilver> zgrep exfat-fuse /var/lib/apt/lists/*trusty* | wc -l = 2
[07:03] <sarnold> mikesilver: I'm out of ideas; all the results of what you're running look like your apt is properly configured, and it looks like you ought to be able to download the packages fine. The mirror you're using has the packages. It all should work.
[07:03] <mikesilver> i know!!! its crazy!!!
[07:04] <mikesilver> but I cant install it!
[07:05] <sarnold> mikesilver: that just leaves some crazy ideas, like rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*trusty* ; apt-get update && apt-get install exfat-fuse
[07:05] <sarnold> I'd be sad if that actually does the job
[07:05] <mikesilver> sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse:
[07:05] <mikesilver> Reading package lists... Done
[07:05] <mikesilver> Building dependency tree
[07:05] <mikesilver> Reading state information... Done
[07:05] <mikesilver> E: Unable to locate package exfat-fuse
[07:06] <sarnold> how about apt-cache policy exfat-fuse?
[07:07] <mikesilver> oum, i dont know
[07:07] <mikesilver> xD
[07:08] <mikesilver> what do you mean?
[07:09] <sarnold> mikesilver: run apt-cache policy exfat-fuse | pastebinit -- install the pastebinit package if you don't have that installed yet :)
[07:13] <mikesilver> The program \xabpastebinit\xbb is not installed. You can install it by typing:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[07:14] <mikesilver> sarnold: What does that mean?
[07:15] <hexch> mikesilver: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pastebinit
[07:15] <sarnold> mikesilver: it is telling you how to install the pastebinit package
[07:16] <mikesilver> oh!! ok ok
[07:16] <mikesilver> wait… =)
[07:18] <mikesilver> sarnold: I cant install it! same error that exfat-fuse
[07:19] <sarnold> hey, that's fun :)
[07:19] <mikesilver> Cannot initiate the connction to mx.archive.ubuntu.com…….
[07:19] <sarnold> man it's obviously bed time, why didn't I think to check a different package earlier?
[07:21] <mikesilver> xD
[07:21] <sarnold> how about apt-get install bash ?
[07:21] <mikesilver> never mind
[07:21] <sarnold> you shold get an error message like "bash is already the newest version." somewhere in that output..
[07:23] <mikesilver> yeap! newest version 0U, 0 N 0to R and 0 not upgraded
[07:23] <mikesilver> the neswet version and all in 0
[07:23] <mikesilver> newest*
[07:25] <sarnold> mikesilver: how about these: apt-get install emacs   or  apt-get install vim   -- you don't actually have to install them, but I'm curious if it knows about those...
[07:25] <sarnold> both emacs and vim are in main..
[07:26] <mikesilver> ok wait
[07:28] <mikesilver> Results: Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
[07:28] <mikesilver> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[07:28] <mikesilver> Install these packages without verification? [y/N] y
[07:29] <mikesilver> Err http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main imagemagick-common all 8:<IP_ADDRESS>-6ubuntu3
[07:29] <mikesilver>   Cannot initiate the connection to mx.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:67c:1360:8c01::18). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:67c:1360:8c01::18 80]
[07:29] <sarnold> HEY! those are actual errors. hooray.
[07:29] <mikesilver> :-)
[07:30] <sarnold> (a) there's no reason why those packages should be untrusted. that's bad. (b) should IPv6 work? is there some reason why that's failing?
[07:30] <sarnold> sorry to say I just don't have the energy to help debug further
[07:31] <mikesilver> im it is assumed that ipv6 is not working, i have disabled...
[07:31] <mikesilver> im working only with ipv4
[07:32] <mikesilver> thank you very much men!
[07:33] <mikesilver> I think I will re-install the server from scratch
[07:33] <mikesilver> xD
[07:33] <sarnold> that shouldn't be necessary
[07:34] <mikesilver> how restore the repository list? and her keys?
[07:35] <mikesilver> i think that the problem is the RSA keys
[07:35] <mikesilver> or any similar
[07:36] <mikesilver> the connection to the repository is what fails
[07:38] <sarnold> mikesilver: the keys are only used to verify the downloaded contents, they aren't used in actually connecting
[07:38] <mikesilver> When I ping www.google.com, the DNS resolved, but after not connecting
[07:38] <sarnold> mikesilver: I think the key that's needed for trusty is 790BC7277767219C42C86F933B4FE6ACC0B21F32  -- apt-key list    will show you your configured keys
[07:39] <sarnold> mikesilver: oh man, then you've got a lot more debugging ;/ sorry i didn't think to check these simple things first
[07:39] <mikesilver> yeap
[07:40] <mikesilver> the key isnt found
[07:40] <mikesilver> the key was not found
[07:41] <sarnold> it only lists the lower 32bits of the keyid...
[07:42] <sarnold> good luck mikesilver :)
[07:43] <mikesilver> thans man!
[07:43] <mikesilver> nites nites!
[07:44] <sarnold> gracias :)
[07:48] <mikesilver> Good night everybody!!!
[07:48] <mikesilver> bye!
[08:21] <mik3silv3r> =)
[08:22] <mik3silv3r> exit
[08:26] <Mik3Silv3r> What irc client recommend?
[08:26] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:27] <Mik3Silv3r> im an user of mac osx
[08:27] <lordievader> Mik3Silv3r: Irssi :)
[08:28] <Mik3Silv3r> Irssi?
[08:28] <lordievader> Yes.
[08:37] <memoryleak> I have an issue with a cron job. I'm running a third party script in a cron job as apache user - it doesn't work (data is not being created). If I run the script as an user created by me, which is not a system user - it works. What could cause this behavour?
[08:42] <lordievader> Permissions?
[08:51] <jamespage> coreycb, contextlib2 is worth an MIR IMHO
[08:52] <jamespage> coreycb, I'll not block on the ceilometer update - but please can you raise one - we can drop the patch and add the BD back later
[08:52] <memoryleak> lordievader: it doesn't work as well when executed as root :(
[08:53] <lordievader> memoryleak: Do you get errors?
[08:55] <Mik3Silv3r> quit
[08:58] <mikesilver2> oum.. irssi i ugly
[08:58] <mikesilver2> xD
[08:58] <mikesilver2> colloquy.. fine...
[08:58] <mikesilver2> komanda is pretty
[08:58] <mikesilver2> limechat nice...
[08:58] <lordievader> Irssi is awesome.
[08:59] <mikesilver2> is commandline
[08:59] <ObrienDave> you want functionality or eye-candy?
[08:59] <lordievader> mikesilver2: Exactly, great ain't it :P
[08:59] <mikesilver2> but im newer
[09:00] <mikesilver2> uninstalled xD
[09:00] <lordievader> mikesilver2: You do know you are in #ubuntu-server right? Asking server guys you usually get gui-less answers ;)
[09:00] <mikesilver2> xD
[09:00] <mikesilver2> your right!
[09:00] <mikesilver2> xD
[09:01] <mikesilver2> but.. but... im an user of mac too!
[09:01] <ObrienDave> i'm sorry ;P
[09:02] <mikesilver2> the ubuntu server its fine... but my personal computer is mac...
[09:02] <mikesilver2> for ubuntu server ssh
[09:02] <mikesilver2> but in my mac too?
[09:02] <lordievader> What?
[09:02] <mikesilver2> =)
[09:02] <mikesilver2> commandline
[09:02] <mikesilver2> for chat
[09:03] <memoryleak> lordievader: no output to stdout/stderr
[09:03] <lordievader> I have no idea what you are asking.  I tested with several internet connections. same issue apt-get install any-pakagge. E: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/postgresql-9.                                  3/libpq5_9.3.9-0ubuntu0.14.04_amd64.deb  Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[11:07] <sarthor> changed mirros,  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com to  http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com and  http://in.archive.ubuntu.com and  http://sp.archive.ubuntu.com and  http://hk.archive.ubuntu.com but no difference. HELP
[11:07] <lordievader> sarthor: Can you ping the ip?
[11:08] <sarthor> let me connected again direct with modem.
[11:11] <sarthor> lordievader, yea I can ping that <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:11] <sarthor> 22 transmited. and same recieved. 0% loss lordievader
[11:12] <lordievader> sarthor: Allright, what do you get when you nmap port 80 on that ip?
[11:18] <sarthor> lordievader, says 80/tcp open  http
[11:19] <frickler> anyone else seeing issues with the latest grub updates? we are building our own cloud images and since tonight they are failing on boot being unable to find the root volume UUID
[11:19] <frickler> happens for both trusty and vivid
[11:19] <lordievader> Hmm, that is good.
[11:19] <lordievader> sarthor: ^
[11:20] <lordievader> sarthor: Is apt configured to use a proxy?
[11:22] <sarthor> lordievader, there is not proxy involved.
[11:23] <lordievader> sarthor: Can you connect to the ip with a web browser from that box?
[11:25] <sarthor> lordievader, yea it is working.
[11:27] <lordievader> Could you pastebin the full error you are getting?
[11:30] <sarthor> lordievader, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11847781/
[11:30] <frickler> fwiw, http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vivid/current/vivid-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img shows the same error for me
[11:36] <lordievader> sarthor: Are you able to download http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntu/pool/main/libn/libnet-cidr-perl/libnet-cidr-perl_0.17-1_all.deb
[11:36] <lordievader> ?
[11:36] <sarthor> lordievader, yea downloaded.
[11:37] <lordievader> Pff.
[11:37] <lordievader> sarthor: Do you know strace?
[11:37] <sarthor> lordievader, no, do not know that.
[11:38] <lordievader> Hmm, is strace installed?
[11:39] <sarthor> yea installed.
[11:40] <lordievader> sarthor: Was it installed already, or did you need to install it?
[11:40] <sarthor> it was installed
[11:43] <lordievader> Hmm, ok. strace -o /tmp/apt.trace apt-get install <some package> >/dev/null
[11:44] <lordievader> After you've done that could you pastebin the /tmp/apt.trace file?
[11:50] <sarthor> lordievader, i did this, nothing happening strace -o /tmp/apt.trace apt-get install postfix* >/dev/null
[11:50] <sarthor> waiting...
[11:51] <lordievader> After a while it should be done... unless apt is waiting for input... Hmm perhaps you should run: stace -o /tmp/apt.trace apt-get install -y postfix >/dev/null
[11:54] <coreycb> jamespage, I'll raise a MIR for contextlib2
[11:55] <sarthor> lordievader, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11847897/
[11:57] <lordievader> sarthor: Err, that is dpkg output?
[11:57] <lordievader> Seems like apt downloaded things okay this time.
[11:57] <sarthor> it was the result of that command you told me.
[11:58] <sarthor> strace -o /tmp/apt.trace apt-get install -y postfix >/dev/null
[11:59] <lordievader> Not the file /tmp/apt.trace?
[11:59] <lordievader> I wanted to see that file ;)
[12:03] <sarthor> lordievader, big file. here http://paste.ubuntu.com/11847927/
[12:07] <lordievader> I see an '400 URI Failure\nURI: http://us.a', could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:16] <sarthor> lordievader, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11847982/
[12:17] <lordievader> Have you ran an apt-get update lately?
[12:18] <sarthor> yea several times.
[12:18] <lordievader> Hmm...
[12:28] <sarthor> lordievader, any clue?
[13:37] <lordievader> Err, I don't really get what is going on...
[13:38] <lordievader> Somehow apt is getting the wrong url or something.
[14:33] <jge> weird, updated to latest chrome stable release but the old version still comes up.. what am I doing wrong? :\
[14:41] <pmatulis> sarthor: i find it very odd that you are having so many problems with package installs. there is prolly something systematically wrong with your setup
[14:41] <sarthor> pmatulis, I have multiple computers and multiple internet connections in different places. all have same issue. may be due to region.
[14:41] <lordievader> pmatulis: Looked like his postfix installed without problems.
[14:42] <lordievader> Strange thing is he can download the debs through his browser...
[14:42] <sarthor> and lordievader pmatulis some packages installing very normal. and some have that issue.
[14:42] <lordievader> That is really wierd.
[14:45] <TJ-> sarthor: You left yesterday and didn't see my report. Your problem appeared to be caused by requests using HTTP/1.0 not HTTP/1.1
[14:45] <pmatulis> sarthor: then prolly something systematically wrong with how you configure your machines, irrespective of where they are located
[14:45] <TJ-> sarthor: Here, this was what I found: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11844647/
[14:46] <sarthor> TJ-, where are fasting, and that time was the time when we end fasting.. Sorry for that.
[14:46] <TJ-> [00:44] * TJ- thinks sarthor is behind a transparent proxy that is using HTTP/1.0 for outbound requests
[14:46] <TJ-> [00:46] Interestingly, that mirror is showing different Apache versions for HTTP/1.0 vs HTTP/1.1 - must be behind a load-balancer/proxy itself
[14:48] <sarthor> TJ-, On my end I am not using any proxy, I dont know my ISP side.
[14:49] <TJ-> sarthor: Well, those results explain your issue. I think your ISP or country have transparent proxies
[14:50] <sarthor> TJ-, may be, so everything was great before 1 week. So then I think there will be no solutions. because counter will remove proxies for me.
[14:50] <TJ-> sarthor: I'ts quite concerning they would intercept package updates; suggests the packages fetched might be interfered with, so you sohuld triple-check their signatures match the Ubuntu signing keys
[14:52] <sarthor> TJ-, I downloaed ubuntu-server 14.04 fresh iso. installed. on VM. with the defautl setting I am facing these issue. and if you want to install again new machine. I can do that too.
[14:52] <TJ-> sarthor: reinstall isn't going to help if the network connection is causing your package update failures
[14:52] <sarthor> if you want me to install* Sorry the mistakes in language.
[14:53] <sarthor> ok.
[15:10] <Lurchy> morning everyone
[15:27] <lordievader> TJ-: Interesting, how did you find this out?
[15:27] <TJ-> lordievader: find what out?
[15:28] <lordievader> TJ-: That sarthor's problem is related to http 1.0 instead of using http 1.1
[15:29] <sarthor> lordievader, is it possible to be fixec?
[15:29] <TJ-> lordievader: see the pastebin where I manually used telnet connections
[15:31] <OliPicard>  hey everyone, I'm having problems with executing a script in my crontab from python. Not sure as to why https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/epA6EKu8/
[15:38] <lordievader> sarthor: If I understand TJ-'s theory correctly there is a proxy somewhere between you and the archive server who is translating things from http 1.1 to 1.0. If you do not control this proxy I do not think you can fix it.
[15:39] <TJ-> lordievader: correct.
[15:39] <lordievader> Interesting/annoying problem though.
[15:39] <TJ-> lordievader: you notice that the pastebin show 2 different server versions answering the 2 connections, too?
[15:40] <sarthor> so lordievader I do not control this. and I tried 3 ISPs. So it was fine, and it is strange that all of those 3 isps put same rules on same time.
[15:40] <TJ-> lordievader: that'll be because there's a HTTP/1.1 load-balancer and without a "Host:" header it directs the connection to the default server
[15:40] <lordievader> TJ-: The first one doesn't show an ip. But *.archive.u.c is probably load balanced.
[15:40] <TJ-> sarthor: Are all 3 ISPs in the same country? Which country are the ISPs in?
[15:41] <lordievader> Oh wait different apache versions, never mind.
[15:41] <sarthor> yea. same country.
[15:41] <TJ-> lordievader: I missed the IP from the paste, but it was the same
[15:41] <TJ-> sarthor: which country is it?
[15:41] <lordievader> Perhaps it is the country itself? Where do you live, sarthor? If you do not mind me asking.
[15:41] <sarthor> Saudi Arabia
[15:42] <sarthor> I do not mind this. you guys helping..
[15:42] <lordievader> Hmm, which country in the middle east wanted their own internet again?
[15:45] <TJ-> According to Wikipedia: "Saudi Arabia directs all international Internet traffic through a proxy farm located in King Abdulaziz City for Science & Technology. A content filter is implemented there, based on software by Secure Computing."
[15:45] <teward> heh
[15:46] <lordievader> Does it also say that this proxy only support http 1.0?
[15:46] <lordievader> :P
[15:46] <teward> lordievader: probably badly configured lol.  unless they are *trying* to block Ubuntu and such :P
[15:47] <lordievader> Let's hope it is the former.
[15:48] <sarthor> these things are happening since 4 or 5 days. there is no restriction on such stuff.
[15:49] <TJ-> sarthor: So I think the sysadmins have mis-configured the proxy
[15:49] <lordievader> It has only been happening the past couple of days, right?
[15:50] <sarthor> TJ-, yes. lordievader every thing was great.
[15:50] <TJ-> sarthor: Your nearest localish official Ubuntu mirror is Oman, and I've justed checked it looks to have been last updated 29th June
[15:51] <sarthor> damn....downloading...... working..... I do not how..
[15:51] <TJ-> sarthor: It might be worth testing against other Ubuntu mirrors (not us.archive.ubuntu.com) and see if the same issue occurs. If you get lucky and find a mirror that isn't using a virtual host, then HTTP/1.0 will work
[15:52] <sarthor> Wowo....downloaded all packages.. but this was just test machine. now I will check on other one too.
[15:53] <sarthor> TJ-, i have check with  ru.archive.ubuntu.com  sp.archive.ubuntu.com  in.archive.ubuntu.com if that are different. it was same.
[15:54] <TJ-> sarthor: That really confirms the faulty country proxy then
[15:55] <sarthor> but now downloading .. all good now..
[15:55] <sarthor> that really confirms a country "faulty proxy" then *
[15:57] <sarthor> Hey really you people do great job. I do not why, but really it is great. I only can say Thanks you a lot. Salute to your efforts.
[15:57] <lordievader> I hope the Saudi Arabia IT team fixes this soon ;)
[15:58] <sarthor> lordievader, hope so.
[16:01] <jrwren> cloud-config, the docs section is titled "add apt repostiories" but the example proceeds to choose a mirror via apt_mirror, not add an additional repo http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/examples.html#add-apt-repositories
[16:07] <jrwren> nevermind. I'll send MR for docs.
[17:53] <teward> rbasak: hate to say you should bump priority on the TB email, but I think we're going to have build failures for NGINX without any merge
[17:53] <teward> (see -devel)
[19:14] <patdk-wk> heh, fun, this last grub update is broken :(
[20:27] <rbasak> teward: ack. Sorry, just slogging through a ridiculous todo list
[20:28] <teward> rbasak: no problem, i'm just running into a lot of build test issues with wily
[20:28] <teward> one of which needed the 'merge' to start, but then one which recurred again regardless
[20:28] <teward> who knows the most about debhelper and the packaging process changes if any in WIly?
[20:28] <rbasak> teward: I try and prioritise stuff for other people, but the top five items on my todo are all for other people :-/
[20:29] <teward> rbasak: ack.  you can ignore my request to bump the priority, i have to dig into the build process more
[20:29] <teward> i think there's something broken in wily now
[20:29] <rbasak> I don't think anything has changed much. Probably the biggest change is the systemd stuff but that hasn't really changed much in debhelper unless you specifically ask for it.
[20:30] <teward> rbasak: any idea what could cause this kind of failure?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11850085/
[20:30] <teward> ooops
[20:30] <teward> wait
[20:30] <teward> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11849975/
[20:30] <teward> i have too many links in my clipboard xD
[20:31] <teward> specifically, what would create debian/tmp/use
[20:31] <teward> my guess is *maybe* the perl module but...
[20:34] <tarpman> teward: random guess: an executable (dh_exec) dh_install script, starting with "use Config;", being interpreted as a literal .install file by dh_install?
[20:34] <tarpman> teward: looks suspiciously similar to http://sources.debian.net/src/nginx/1.9.2-1/debian/nginx-extras.install/?hl=3#L3
[20:35] <teward> i should've just posted here instead of -devel
[20:35] <teward> tarpman: that's a problem though, because AFAICT that's needed
[20:36] <teward> tarpman: then something in debhelper has changed from Vivid to Wily
[20:36] <teward> because the build doesn't fail there in Vivid
[20:37] <teward> tarpman: know of any overrides that can make it process the output from Perl rather than assume it's an install file?
[20:38] <teward> because looking at the error what you just said makes sense
[20:39] <tarpman> teward: first check: is the file in question executable (mode +x)? :)
[20:39] <tarpman> teward: I'm not really familiar with dh_exec, I'm afraid
[20:39] <teward> ooooo i see what happened
[20:39] <teward> lol
[20:39] <teward> tarpman: that's tar's fault
[20:39] <teward> it needs to be +x then
[20:39] <tarpman> blame the tools!
[20:39]  * teward kicks the thing
[22:17] <teward> solved it!
[22:17] <teward> tarpman: thank you for your guidance, and also thanks to those not in here, turns out tar lost the +x on that install script written in Perl
[22:17] <teward> so things exploded
[22:18] <tarpman> teward: getting further now? :)
[22:39] <teward> tarpman: it's building now.
[22:39] <teward> just trying to get dh_installapport to work onw
[22:39] <teward> now*
[22:40] <teward> since (a) i need that in wily, and (b) i need that before the merge in wily, and (c) it's needed in Vivid
[22:40] <teward> if installapport doesn't work...
[22:40]  * teward shakes fist at sbuild
[22:45] <teward> tarpman: i don't know why it's so hard to invoke a dh_ command :/
[22:45]  * tarpman