[12:05] <Chryseus> install libxine-extracodecs
[12:06] <Tm_T> Chryseus: straight to solution before prolem is revealed? =)
[12:06] <Chryseus> Tm_T: scroll back
[12:06] <Bambino> Tm_T, ive been discussing this the last 10 min :P
[12:06] <Tm_T> aah =)
[12:06] <HymnToLife> anyway, Dapper issues are on #ubuntu+1
[12:07] <Bambino> Chryseus, thanks bick time mate.
[12:07] <Bambino> big
[12:07] <Tm_T> Chryseus: carry on pal ;)
[12:07] <Chryseus> Bambino: np.. next time #ubuntu+1 with that dapepr :P
[12:08] <Bambino> k sry
[12:08] <MrKubuntuUser> would anybody here know of any Linux telnet clients (besides the included "telnet" program)?
[12:09] <Chryseus> MrKubuntuUser: well.. what's wrong with "telnet?"
[12:10] <Chryseus> I don't think nobody bothers to make "any better" :P
[12:11] <Bambino> isnt putty a telnet client? (or am i mistaking) ;)
[12:12] <Chryseus> Bambino: not entirely, it's able to use raw, telnet, rlogin and ssh protocols
[12:12] <MrKubuntuUser> Chryseu:  I need a telnet client for use with Innovative INNOPAC.  INNOPAC uses VT102 printing stuff for printing to local printers, and that doesn't seem to work with "telnet"
[12:13] <MrKubuntuUser> *Chryseus
[12:15] <MrKubuntuUser> Chryseus:  or is ther a way to get "telnet" to work with local printing?
[12:16] <Chryseus> MrKubuntuUser: sry, don't know about that :(
[12:16] <Chryseus> my printer doesn't even work with linux :P
[12:17] <slow-motion> n8
[12:17] <MrKubuntuUser> Chryseus:  no driver?
[12:17] <Chryseus> nope.. stupid canon
[12:24] <beefsprocket> anyone used exim4 and gmail as a relay?
[12:25] <Bennedetto> sorry, im back again, another quick question
[12:26] <Bennedetto> i was trying to restart the xserver, but i cant get it to start again
[12:26] <beefsprocket> after having done what Bennedetto ?
[12:26] <_john> hey, whenever i configure kopete, it crashes on me
[12:28] <Bennedetto> beefsprocket: i edited my xorg.conf
[12:29] <beefsprocket> for nvidia or ati?
[12:29] <Bennedetto> ati
[12:29] <Bennedetto> no, intel
[12:29] <Chryseus> Bennedetto: egrep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:29] <Bennedetto> intel i810
[12:29] <beefsprocket> Chryseus seems to know what to do..
[12:29] <Chryseus> well.. that'll tell what the real error is..
[12:30] <Chryseus> :P
[12:30] <Chryseus> been there, done that.. everybody should know it ;)
[12:30] <beefsprocket> i was jsut there trying to get the new nvidia to work on dapper :P
[12:30] <Chryseus> :)
[12:30] <Bennedetto> alright, it says... hold on i have no mouse so i have to copy this manually :)
[12:32] <Bennedetto> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown  (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[12:32] <Bennedetto> thats all i got from that command
[12:32] <Chryseus> hmmm...
[12:33] <Chryseus> wierd.. what did you change?
[12:33] <beefsprocket> Bennedetto: are you using gdm or kdm? there is some strange problem with gmd and cupys recently
[12:33] <Bennedetto> kdm
[12:33] <beefsprocket> nm then
[12:33] <beefsprocket> have you stopped kdm?
[12:33] <beefsprocket> and then restarted or did you reboot?
[12:33] <Bennedetto> yes, i restarted it manually
[12:33] <beefsprocket> ok
[12:33] <Bennedetto> i did both
[12:34] <Chryseus> Bennedetto: what did you change in xorg.conf?
[12:34] <Bennedetto> umm for my monitor on the modeline
[12:34] <me2win> !wireless
[12:34] <ubotu> I heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[12:34] <Bennedetto> i changed "1280x800@60"
[12:34] <Bennedetto> to the same thing but without the @60
[12:35] <Chryseus> change it back? :P
[12:35] <Chryseus> seems pretty wierd though.. never knew that would matter :/
[12:35] <toxic_> [sed help]  is there a way to only return data matching pattern rather than deleting data matching pattern ? (ie this deletes data: sed -e 's/[0-9] //g' while I want to return only the numbers)
[12:36] <Bennedetto> yeah, i was just going to change it back
[12:37] <Bennedetto> so, i changed it back, and restarted kdm
[12:37] <Bennedetto> still no gui :(
[12:38] <Chryseus> you must've changed something else too :P
[12:38] <Bennedetto> nope, i swear that i didnt
[12:38] <Chryseus> ok.. did you install something?
[12:38] <Chryseus> upgrade?
[12:38] <Bennedetto> i installed a bunch of stuff
[12:38] <Bennedetto> upgraded and installed
[12:38] <Bennedetto> (im normally a gentoo user, so i wanted to get some of the more useless things off)
[12:38] <Chryseus> and that Xorg.0.log doesn't tell anythign else?
[12:39] <Bennedetto> ill chekc
[12:39] <Bennedetto> check*
[12:39] <Chryseus> useless stuff.. like what? :D
[12:42] <Bennedetto> just like documentation that i dont need
[12:42] <Bennedetto> kde programs that i dont use
[12:42] <Bennedetto> nothing that should kill x
[12:43] <beefsprocket> try a full upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[12:43] <Bennedetto> though i do see where it says that it doesnt recognize 1280by800 so it switches to 1024 by 768
[12:43] <Bennedetto> i did a full upgrade earlier today
[12:43] <Bambino> where can i change my screen resolution
[12:44] <Chryseus> Bennedetto: hmm.. I'm running out of ideas :/
[12:45] <Bennedetto> as am i
[12:45] <beefsprocket> try commenting out your modeline(s) entirely
[12:45] <h3sp4wn> Bennedetto: If you use aptitude instead of apt-get then If you uninstal saomething it takes away the deps
[12:46] <beefsprocket> also, do you have your horizontal and veritcal refresh rates set? I think most 1280x800 laptops are 31.5-90 for horizontal, and 60 for vetical
[12:46] <Bennedetto> i was using adept, so whatever that does i dont know when it comes to the dependencies
[12:46] <Chryseus> Bennedetto: because if xorg doesn't start it should have errors in log.. and if there's nothing.. beats me
[12:48] <Chryseus> you accidentally removed whole xorg? :P
[12:48] <Bennedetto> lol
[12:48] <Bennedetto> heres what i get when i sudo startx
[12:50] <Bennedetto> xinit: connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to xserver xinit: no such process (errno 3): Server error.
[12:53] <beefsprocket> Bennedetto: try backing up your xorg then and run xorgconfig to rebuild a new one
[12:54] <Bennedetto> kk
[12:54] <beefsprocket> or installing xserver-xorg again
[12:55] <Bennedetto> where is xorgconfig
[12:55] <Bennedetto> its not in my path atm i dont believe
[12:56] <beefsprocket> ack!
[12:56] <beefsprocket> Bennedetto: ok, do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg instead then
[12:56] <laszlok> Bennedetto: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will recreate your xorg.conf
[12:56] <beefsprocket> :)
[12:58] <Bennedetto> xserver-org is broken or not fully installed
[12:58] <Bennedetto> thats what i get, so i must have removed something i shouldnt have
[12:59] <me2win> !info ndisgtk
[12:59] <me2win> !ndisgtk
[01:00] <beefsprocket> Bennedetto: ok, so remove it and then reinstall
[01:00] <beefsprocket> what is going on here?
[01:00] <Bennedetto> alright, i dont know how to use apt-get, im usually more of a emerge kinda guy
[01:00] <beefsprocket> ok: apt-get remove xserver-xorg
[01:01] <beefsprocket> or, simply apt-get install xserver-xorg
[01:01] <beefsprocket> (try the install first)
[01:01] <Bennedetto> i need my cd to do it? i cant do it over the internet?
[01:02] <beefsprocket> you can do it over the net
[01:02] <beefsprocket> aptitude, dpkg, and apt-get all reference one file and one major directory
[01:02] <beefsprocket> namely, /etc/apt/sources,list for repositories
[01:03] <beefsprocket> and /var/cache/apt/archives for .deb storage on your machine
[01:03] <Bennedetto> its telling me to put the cd back in
[01:03] <beefsprocket> if you don't have the cd (you don't need it), comment out the very top line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:03] <beefsprocket> and then run apt-get update
[01:03] <beefsprocket> then do apt-get install xserver-xorg
[01:04] <beefsprocket> you'll never need the cd again either
[01:04] <me2win> !ndisgtk
[01:04] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, me2win
[01:05] <Bennedetto> sorry, this is some crazy joinging and quitting
[01:05] <Bennedetto> alright, i edited the file
[01:05] <Bennedetto> then it was apt-get update right?
[01:06] <beefsprocket> yep
[01:06] <beefsprocket> that updates so that you don;t use the cd anymore
[01:06] <Bennedetto> k and now i can do the install?
[01:07] <Bennedetto> alrighty, its installing
[01:07] <beefsprocket> excellent
[01:07] <beefsprocket> you'll be up and running in no time now
[01:07] <Bennedetto> so when its done, i should be able to startx right?
[01:07] <beefsprocket> you using a different computer or a commandline irc client?
[01:07] <Bennedetto> commandline irc
[01:07] <beefsprocket> you should be able to  do /etc/init.d/kdm start actually
[01:08] <Bennedetto> im actually sshing into my gentoo box to irc
[01:08] <beefsprocket> which is what normally happens when you start up your computer
[01:08] <beefsprocket> right
[01:10] <Bennedetto> omg im in a gui!
[01:10] <beefsprocket> wicked
[01:11] <Bennedetto> yay!!!
[01:11] <beefsprocket> so what's next then Bennedetto? xgl?
[01:12] <Bennedetto> lol, not yet
[01:12] <Bennedetto> i want to get 1280 by 800 first
[01:12] <beefsprocket> right, I think like I said above (since I use the same res) specify your proper h/z refresh rates
[01:13] <beefsprocket> like 31.5-90 for horizontal, 60 for vertical
[01:13] <Bambino> is it possible to save a screen session as a log file?
[01:14] <Bennedetto> so, im assuming that thats in my xorg too beefsprocket
[01:14] <beefsprocket> yep
[01:14] <beefsprocket> in the monitor section
[01:15] <beefsprocket> comment out whatever is there (the two relevant lines) and then add yours
[01:15] <beefsprocket> then you want to check to make sure that your display depth matches your screen resolution
[01:16] <beefsprocket> for example, in depth 4, the first entry  should be "1280x800"
[01:16] <beefsprocket> sorry depth 24
[01:16] <mayank> Bambino, you can redirect the screen session on a file
[01:16] <Bennedetto> heres what im going to do
[01:16] <Bennedetto> im going to post my xorg.conf in pastebin
[01:16] <beefsprocket> I'll edit
[01:16] <Bambino> mayank, How?
[01:16] <beefsprocket> :)
[01:16] <Bennedetto> perfect!
[01:16] <mayank> using > x.log
[01:17] <mayank> ie ls -l > x.log
[01:17] <robotgeek> mayank: he meant gnu screen
[01:19] <word> What could be wrong if certain mp3's don't play right on Amarok?
[01:20] <robotgeek> Bambino: maybe screen -L
[01:31] <cathal> anyone reccommend an ftp program for KDE?
[01:31] <beefsprocket> konqueror works
[01:31] <_pip> cathal: gftp is very good!
[01:32] <_pip> cathal: I promise
[01:32] <beefsprocket> _pip: I find it crashes all the time
[01:32] <cathal> yea i used gftp on Gnome but looking for one for kde
[01:32] <beefsprocket> but it is nice when it works fo rsure
[01:32] <beefsprocket> kftpgrabber is another good one then
[01:32] <_pip> beefsprocket: Did you ? I am sorry to hear that! But I didn't
[01:33] <beefsprocket> lucky -- i'd much rather use it for sure otherwise
[01:33] <_pip> cathal: Hey ,gftp can also be used for kDE
[01:34] <kosh> I juse use konqueror for ftp
[01:34] <kosh> it works well
[01:35] <_pip> cathal: you can find it with Adept
[01:35] <kosh> however mostly I use sftp and not ftp since ftp is insecure
[01:35] <beefsprocket> kosh: agreed, most stable of the 3, tabs, bookmarks, integrates with kwallet
[01:35] <kosh> beefsprocket: intergrates with kget also
[01:35] <cathal> _pip, yea i know i just wanted to see if their was anything better or looks nicer really, a bit plain, i like my eye candy lol
[01:35] <kosh> beefsprocket: so downloads can be resumed etc
[01:35] <blackflag> For sftp you can use kasablanca
[01:36] <beefsprocket> kosh: try using fish://
[01:36] <beefsprocket> (in konqueror that is)
[01:36] <kosh> beefsprocket: fish is for when you can use sftp
[01:36] <beefsprocket> exactly -- it is ssh
[01:36] <kosh> beefsprocket: it is not a replacement, it tries to simulate the same stuff as sftp does over scp
[01:36] <kosh> beefsprocket: however why would I use fish when all my ssh servers are ssh2 and already support sftp?
[01:36] <beefsprocket> right, but it work in konqueror's gui
[01:37] <kosh> sftp does also
[01:37] <beefsprocket> really? that I did not know
[01:37] <kosh> and it has for years
[01:37] <beefsprocket> never tried it -- that's handy
[01:37] <kosh> yup I have been using sftp though konqueror since 2.0 or so, however with 3.0 is has worked better
[01:37] <beefsprocket> cool, Ima have to try it then
[01:38] <kosh> fish is nice, I just don't see the point of using scp to pretend to be sftp when sftp is available :)
[01:39] <beefsprocket> I learned with scp
[01:39] <kosh> I learned with telnet, zmodem, kermit etc :)
[01:40] <beefsprocket> no comment  :P
[01:41] <_pip> beefsprocket: can you reccomend a download tool with multi-threaded skill ?
[01:41] <beefsprocket> nope
[01:41] <beefsprocket> does flashgot integrate with anything like that?
[01:41] <kosh> using archie to find stuff and how cool it was when mosaic and netscape first came up
[01:42] <kosh> and stuff like interlaced gifs
[01:42] <_pip> beefsprocket: Does it work on linux?
[01:42] <beefsprocket> yeah, with firefox and kget
[01:42] <beefsprocket> I rather like it
[01:42] <_pip> beefsprocket: let me see...: )
[01:44] <kosh> _pip: why not just use konqueror? you can even use it with kget transparently
[01:45] <Bambino> I have two questions. 1: Where do I choose how many Desktop to display in my tasbkar? 2: How can I make it so I can see the trash can, System menu, Home folder..? thanks
[01:48] <_pip> kosh: kget ?  In fact I used Kubuntu several days ago,so I don't know that. Thank you
[01:49] <kosh> just install kget at run it once, from then on it should startup on its own
[01:49] <kosh> and it integrates transparently with konqueror
[01:49] <kosh> it is just a download manager, konqueror would still be the ftp program
[01:49] <kosh> but you can define in kget how many files to get at a time, how retries are handled etc
[01:49] <kosh> it works very well together
[01:50] <kosh> well I am wandering off
[01:50] <beefsprocket> Bambino: right click on the dekstop applet in your kicker bar
[01:50] <beefsprocket> then configure desktops
[01:51] <Bambino> thanks
[01:51] <beefsprocket> :)
[01:52] <davix> how do I play .amr files (gsm wav format) in kubuntu
[02:03] <carlos> !xgl
[02:03] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[02:07] <_pip> ubotu: Hello!
[02:07] <ubotu> Hi, _pip!
[02:08] <_pip> ubotu: Do yo know kget?
[02:08] <ubotu> _pip: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:08] <Bambino> Anyone here has a tras can? And can tell me how to get it to work so when i remove everything it shows as emtpy, and when i put something in it, itactually shows as something in it? ;)
[02:08] <word> Interesting question....you basically want it to change the icon when you have contents in your trash can?
[02:09] <Bambino> word, That is correct.
[02:12] <_pip> mayank:Hello, how canI get kget?
[02:12] <larkin> is there an easy-to-install c++ compiler for Kubuntu
[02:13] <mayank> use apt-get install gcc
[02:14] <MrKubuntuUser> Hi... is anybody else getting "memory corruption detected" in their syslog from kdm on Dapper?
[02:14] <MrKubuntuUser> I started getting that after dist-upgrading this afternoon.
[02:14] <mayank> sudo apt-get install kget
[02:16] <MrKubuntuUser> KDM still seems to function properly, but I just noticed several of those entries in my syslog
[02:16] <_pip> mayank: thank you!
[02:16] <mayank> np
[02:17] <mayank> _pip: you can use anjuta also
[02:17] <_pip> mayank: it said "I cann't find it!"
[02:17] <_pip> mayank: sudo apt-get install anjuta?
[02:18] <mayank> yes
[02:18] <Bennedetto> beefsprocket: I got it!
[02:18] <_pip> mayank: failed
[02:18] <beefsprocket> wicked
[02:18] <_pip> mayank: none
[02:18] <Bennedetto> mmm proper resolutions
[02:18] <MrKubuntuUser> Any Dapper users here that updated this afternoon?
[02:19] <beefsprocket> did it have anything to do with proper vet/horiz refresh? I realised that I posted the wrong numbers :(
[02:19] <mayank> _pip: for gcc you have to use: sudo apt-get install gcc++
[02:19] <Bennedetto> nope, it is the vid card
[02:19] <Bennedetto> i just followed a tutorial on the ubuntu forums
[02:19] <beefsprocket> hmm, what did you have to change?
[02:19] <Bennedetto> and voila
[02:19] <beefsprocket> cool
[02:19] <_pip> mayank: Then ...?
[02:19] <beefsprocket> that rocks dude
[02:19] <Bennedetto> i had to install a patch, and change my modline
[02:19] <mayank> _pip: that will install gcc++ and anjuta on your system
[02:20] <beefsprocket> it was a patch. stupid intel
[02:20] <Bennedetto> pretty much
[02:20] <Bennedetto> yay
[02:20] <Bennedetto> im so happy now
[02:20] <beefsprocket> good that someone else had the problem first though :)
[02:20] <mayank> you can use gcc at the command line to compile the c++ programs
[02:20] <beefsprocket> time to customize kde then?
[02:20] <Bennedetto> yeppers!
[02:21] <_pip> mayank: see
[02:21] <beefsprocket> Bennedetto: mtaskbar, kbfx, polymer, and a few others are what I start with
[02:21] <beefsprocket> and superkaramba of course
[02:21] <mayank> _pip: anjuta is IDE for C/C++ programs
[02:21] <_pip> mayank: No!I want kget!
[02:21] <mayank> ok
[02:22] <Bennedetto> can i just apt get those?
[02:22] <Bennedetto> or will they be in adept
[02:22] <mayank> ok
[02:22] <mayank> sudo apt-get install kget
[02:22] <mayank> this should work
[02:22] <_pip> mayank: Can't make it
[02:22] <mayank> ok what are u getting
[02:22] <_pip> mayank: my computer said it couldn't find the package
[02:23] <_pip> mayank: strange
[02:23] <mayank> _pip: have u set apt-get before
[02:23] <_pip> mayank: Forgotton
[02:24] <mayank> ie /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <beefsprocket> Bennedetto: superkaramba is there, not sure about the others (i build them from source off kde-look.org)
[02:24] <_pip> mayank: maybe that would be the problem
[02:24] <mayank> _pip: i think
[02:24] <Bennedetto> nope, im not seeing superkaramba in adept
[02:25] <beefsprocket> might be in universe or multiverse then
[02:25] <beefsprocket> good good
[02:25] <Bennedetto> im so tempted to uninstall the drivers for my touchpad
[02:25] <Bennedetto> but i know ill regret it
[02:25] <beefsprocket> just make sure if you do that you don't take X with you this time :P
[02:26] <Bennedetto> lol
[02:26] <Bennedetto> i know how to fix it now
[02:26] <beefsprocket> I use mine enough to have resigned myself to dealing with it
[02:28] <_pip> mayank:I made it
[02:29] <mayank> _pip: great :)
[02:30] <Bennedetto> beefsprocket: i just hit my touchpad all the time when im typing
[02:30] <beefsprocket> I think you can lock it on most laptops
[02:30] <Bennedetto> i have yet to find the key to do it
[02:31] <Bennedetto> but yes, you usuallycan
[02:31] <beefsprocket> hmm
[02:32] <Bennedetto> but i can deal cause my new resolution is HAWT
[02:32] <beefsprocket> lol
[02:33] <_pip> mayank: I have made kget together with konqueror,so how can I use it ?
[02:34] <mayank> _pip: in konqueror "Tools" -> "Download manager"
[02:36] <Bennedetto> so beefsprocket, what widgets do you use with superkaramba
[02:37] <_pip> mayank: shouldn't it open antomaticlly when I clicked a link for downloading?
[02:37] <Pool> hello
[02:37] <beefsprocket> umm, I like aero all in one, liquid weather, and sound mania
[02:37] <beefsprocket> but try them all
[02:37] <Pool> can someone help me with something?
[02:37] <beefsprocket> and use kde-look.org
[02:37] <beefsprocket> Pool: what's up?
[02:37] <Pool> hi there
[02:37] <Pool> trying to install firefox
[02:38] <Pool> got it untarred
[02:38] <Pool> cant seem to get it running
[02:38] <beefsprocket> the 1.5 from mozilla.org then?
[02:38] <Pool> yes
[02:38] <Pool> latest version
[02:38] <beefsprocket> are you running it from a command line?
[02:38] <Pool> I have permissions, and am logged in as su
[02:38] <Pool> yes from command line
[02:38] <_pip> mayank: why I can't see it under tool?
[02:39] <beefsprocket> Pool: are you getting a can't connect to display 0:0 or something like that?
[02:39] <mayank> _pip: Select "show drop target"
[02:39] <Pool> pool@Pool:~/firefox$ ./firefox
[02:39] <Pool> ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:39] <Pool> pool@Pool:~/firefox$
[02:39] <Pool> is what I get
[02:40] <beefsprocket> right, try running the other firefox executable
[02:40] <beefsprocket> there are two
[02:40] <Pool> o
[02:40] <Pool> firefox-bin?
[02:40] <beefsprocket> yep, that one
[02:40] <beefsprocket> ./firefox-bin
[02:40] <Pool> pool@Pool:~/firefox$ ./firefox-bin
[02:40] <Pool> ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:40] <Pool> pool@Pool:~/firefox$
[02:40] <Pool> =(
[02:41] <beefsprocket> ok, one of them works, and I've had one of those errors
[02:41] <beefsprocket> do you have libstdc++5 installed?
[02:41] <Pool> not ssure
[02:41] <beefsprocket> try apt-get install libstdc++5 then
[02:41] <Pool> did a default install of kubuntu
[02:42] <Pool> pool@Pool:~/firefox$ apt -get install libstdc++5
[02:42] <Pool> bash: apt: command not found
[02:42] <Pool> pool@Pool:~/firefox$
[02:42] <_pip> mayank: can I control its speed?
[02:42] <Shuriken> sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[02:43] <kunjan> anyone having problems going to http://klik.atekon.de
[02:43] <kunjan> ?
[02:43] <_adam> Hi to everybody
[02:43] <Pool> that worked, thanks Shuriken
[02:43] <_adam> I would have a question
[02:43] <_adam> my Adept just crashed on me
[02:44] <kunjan> i cant reach it from a few days!
[02:44] <beefsprocket> Pool: got it running now?
[02:44] <Shuriken> np Pool
[02:44] <_adam> and it gave me an error report
[02:44] <_adam> I'm just wondering what should I do with it
[02:44] <beefsprocket> kunjan: I can't get it to load
[02:44] <Pool> yep, that worked.  Thanks alot guys
[02:44] <beefsprocket> enjoy
[02:44] <Bennedetto> beefsprocket: ive got a theme
[02:44] <mayank> _pip: i am not sure about it
[02:44] <Bennedetto> and i know how to load it
[02:44] <Pool> will do, I'm sure I'll be back
[02:45] <_adam> I saved it
[02:45] <Pool> bye
[02:45] <Bennedetto> but do i just run it in screen to keep it from closing the widget
[02:45] <_adam> should I send it somewhere?
[02:45] <beefsprocket> Bennedetto: cool, fun stuff
[02:45] <beefsprocket> Bennedetto: yeah, you load it with superkaramba and then just leave it there
[02:45] <word> Anyone here know anything about tvtuners with linux?
[02:45] <Bennedetto> alright ill screen it then
[02:46] <beefsprocket> make sure superkaramba is still running with it when you logout and it will stay the next time you login
[02:46] <beefsprocket> word: only a little
[02:46] <carlos> hey guys im getting an error and cant open adept anymore! help!
[02:46] <word> beefsprocket: What could be wrong if it only identifys channel 2?
[02:47] <beefsprocket> which program are you using? my knowledge is limited to tvtime
[02:47] <word> I have tvtime i have about 3 programs for it lol none are working
[02:47] <beefsprocket> word: could be that you have to switch from air signal to cable
[02:48] <carlos> ive pasted my error in the pastebin...someone plz help adept wont open
[02:49] <carlos> tried both solutions the error suggests...to no avail...
[02:49] <word> beefsprocket: Umm..now it says I have no signal ><
[02:50] <Shuriken> give us the pastebin url
[02:50] <_pip> hello!how can I control the download speed of kget ?
[02:50] <beefsprocket> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/658829
[02:50] <beefsprocket> word: hmm, I think there is a scan option in tvtime?
[02:50] <beefsprocket> Shuriken: that is the url
[02:50] <word> yah it finds nothing
[02:51] <carlos> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/658829
[02:51] <beefsprocket> well, that's the extent of my knowledge, sorry I can't help more
[02:51] <Shuriken> did you try to remove it and re-install it ?
[02:51] <beefsprocket> tvtime is the easiest to configure though, so I'd start looking there
[02:52] <carlos> no....that was my last resort i guess....it happened after i added the xgl serve in the repository....i went into the list and made sure all was good....ahh well...how would i uninstall/reinstall?
[02:52] <beefsprocket> carlos use dpkg
[02:52] <Shuriken> sudo apt-get remove adept --purge
[02:53] <carlos> thanks
[02:53] <carlos> and to reisntall?
[02:53] <Shuriken> sudo apt-get install adept
[02:54] <carlos> thanks shuriken
[02:54] <Shuriken> does it work now ?
[02:56] <carlos> checking now shuriken...
[02:57] <carlos> shurike: yes its working thanks so much.....still getting the MIME error though :/
[02:58] <carlos> anyone know what that is?
[02:58] <_adam> guys, I need your help, I really don't knwo what to do with the error report I got for my adept crash, should I send it somewhere or no?
[02:58] <Shuriken> dunno, i have this error when i lauch adept
[02:58] <Shuriken> but it works fine
[02:58] <beefsprocket> carlos: are you running dapper?
[02:59] <carlos> beefsproket; yes...kubuntu dapper newest build
[02:59] <beefsprocket> Shuriken and carlos: that is a confirmed adept bug
[02:59] <Shuriken> so do I, with Xgl/compiz
[02:59] <beefsprocket> the octet-mime thing
[02:59] <carlos> okay...it does work fine after that though
[02:59] <beefsprocket> yep
[02:59] <beefsprocket> it's on malone with lots of confirmations
[02:59] <beefsprocket> doesn't do anything bad though
[02:59] <carlos> Shuriken: thats what im working on... (xgl/compiz)
[03:00] <Shuriken> do you have some trouble ?
[03:01] <carlos> yeah :( i can never get it to work based on the ubuntu how to's...
[03:01] <carlos> i got a chance to chat with quinn and he told me to make sure i had the xgl.compiz repositry and thats when adept bonked on me lol
[03:01] <Shuriken> what is your graphic card ? Ati ou Nvidia ?
[03:01] <carlos> NVID
[03:02] <carlos> mx 4000 same card as quinnn he said...
[03:03] <carlos> everytime i think its ready i get froze at startup on a blue kubuntu screen...and then directed to terminal
[03:03] <carlos> then i change my servercmd back to default and try again... :/
[03:04] <carlos> oh well...im GONNA get it right lol
[03:04] <Shuriken> I suggest you read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=147711&page=1
[03:05] <Shuriken> it works very well for me
[03:05] <carlos> yeah this is the guide i use.....always freezes for me ;(
[03:06] <carlos> would you mind showing me your kmdrc?
[03:06] <Shuriken> ha, sorry
[03:06] <carlos> is it exact same as guide?
[03:06] <Shuriken> yes, it's the same
[03:07] <Shuriken> but the mx4000 is an old card, isn't it ?
[03:07] <carlos> i think it may...i got it for cheap cheap from a friend lol
[03:07] <carlos> its 128 mb
[03:08] <Shuriken> are you your card support the last nvidia-glx driver ?
[03:08] <Shuriken> *sure
[03:08] <carlos> i know xgl CAN work with it...my kororaa install did it perfectly...but alas im not such a big fan of gentoo.....
[03:09] <carlos> im almost poitive...
[03:09] <carlos> in my xorg.conf i dont have load glcore    i just have load glx
[03:10] <carlos> maybe that means something?
[03:10] <Shuriken> i don't think
[03:10] <Shuriken> it was the same for me
[03:11] <Shuriken> the only difference is my sources.list
[03:11] <Shuriken> i don't use the same in the thread
[03:11] <carlos> for adept?
[03:11] <Shuriken> yes
[03:11] <carlos> what did you use?
[03:12] <Shuriken> i'm french, i use one found in a french tutorial
[03:13] <carlos> oh... ok maybe not a good idea for me (im dumb american) lol
[03:14] <Shuriken> cause their is the last compiz packages (updated frequently)
[03:15] <carlos> are packages in french?
[03:15] <Shuriken> no, their is nothing to translate
[03:17] <carlos> oh maybe i should try it then?
[03:17] <Shuriken> and what about composite ONLY, does it work ?
[03:18] <carlos> you mean at the end of xorg.conf file?
[03:19] <word> anyone know how to get a tvtuner to work with linux? ><
[03:20] <carlos> bbiab...trying some more things
[03:20] <carlos> thanks for al your help shuriken
[03:20] <carlos> merci  :p
[03:21] <Shuriken> no, composite and Xgl/compiz are two different things, but in the howto they are treated together
[03:23] <Shuriken> (you are welcolme, i hope my english is understandable)
[03:25] <Shuriken> composite is only for shadows/transparency
[03:29] <word> Umm...I found directions to fix my problem...I just need help interpreting them..
[03:29] <word> "type as insmod argument (card=n). You might also have to specify tuner=x and pll=x"
[03:29] <word> I know n is 78 :-/
[03:34] <carlos> shuriken: finally...success ;)
[03:35] <carlos> no window outline, though :p
[03:37] <waylandbill> I ran ntpdate from a prompt and now my clock is set to GMT. How do I correct the timezone?
[03:38] <carlos> shuriken you there?
[03:38] <Shuriken> carlos: So you are running Xgl ?
[03:39] <carlos> yes...but i few glitches...no window outlines...but from whati read this is easily fixed?
[03:39] <Shuriken> (yeah, some trouble with Konversation ^^)
[03:39] <carlos> oh ok lol
[03:40] <Shuriken> window outlines = windows decoration ?
[03:40] <carlos> yes...i think...do i have to enable gnome decoration?
[03:40] <Shuriken> yes, you must
[03:40] <carlos> got a link :p
[03:40] <Shuriken> but you don't need to install all the gnome stuff
[03:41] <carlos> oh good ;)
[03:41] <Shuriken> just gconf
[03:41] <Shuriken> it's on the howto
[03:41] <carlos> ahh will check....bbiab
[03:43] <Shuriken> some KDE components don't work with yet with Xgl
[03:43] <Shuriken> Like Kicker and the window decorations
[03:44] <Shuriken> and the virutal desktops
[03:45] <word> how woudl I do this - "type as insmod argument (card=n). You might also have to specify tuner=x and pll=x" ?
[03:45] <Shuriken> the Xgl cube has 4 faces, so only 4 virutal desktops :/
[03:46] <davix> porn kthx
[03:47] <Shuriken> but the rest is great
[03:47] <word> Shuriken: Do you know what this means - "type as insmod argument (card=n). You might also have to specify tuner=x and pll=x"
[03:48] <Shuriken> it's for tvout ?
[03:48] <word> yes
[03:48] <word> bttv didn't auto detect right
[03:49] <Shuriken> dunno, sorry. (I don't watch TV)
[03:49] <word> lol :P do you know what those directions mean though?
[03:50] <carlos> hmmm shuriken...wheres the howto on how to enable gnome window decorations?
[03:50] <Shuriken> no, maybe you should ask on #ubuntu
[03:51] <Shuriken> in the beginning i think
[03:52] <Shuriken> the first code
[03:52] <Shuriken> compiz-gnome gconf-editor
[03:52] <burninglegion> hello?
[03:52] <Shuriken> but i have installed both compiz-kde and compiz-gnome
[03:53] <burninglegion> i need some help here - trying to boot live cd
[03:53] <carlos> ahh ok i got that...what do i do in gconf-editor?
[03:54] <Shuriken> just copy the first code line in your terminal, and maybe you should add "compiz-kde" at the end (i did that)
[03:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> burninglegion: Stick in the CD, and restat the computer...
[03:56] <carlos> hmm...not quite following you...i have both compiz kde and gnome installed...i can fire up gconf-editor in terminal, but im not sure what to change
[03:56] <Shuriken> don't fire up gconf-editor, you don't need use it
[03:57] <Shuriken> (except if you want fix some shortcuts)
[03:58] <carlos> oh ok
[04:05] <burninglegion> i need help booting the live cd - for some reason the gnome desktop locks up
[04:05] <burninglegion> I have looked in the forums, lets just say - they were no help
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> Can you boot directly into a terminal?
[04:07] <burninglegion> not sure man, im a newb
[04:07] <burninglegion> but,  gotta start from somewhere
[04:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yep.
[04:07] <burninglegion> knoppix loads perfectly for me
[04:07] <burninglegion> w/out any errors
[04:07] <Shuriken> did you try a Kubuntu Live CD ?
[04:08] <burninglegion> i did ubuntu - im downloading the kubuntu right now
[04:08] <carlos> shuriken: i have both compiz-gnome and compiz-kde : still cant figure out exactyl what to do to set the windows decorators--did you have to do anythin or is it justsupposed to happen??
[04:08] <burninglegion> it just happens
[04:09] <burninglegion> could it be my nvidia video card
[04:09] <Shuriken> it just happens
[04:09] <burninglegion> cuz thats wut my monitor is plugged into
[04:09] <burninglegion> yeah, i just dont have a clue
[04:09] <burninglegion> but some other linux distros load fine
[04:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> burninglegion: It doesn't tell you that it can't start X, does it?
[04:10] <burninglegion> nope
[04:10] <burninglegion> just has like a "_" in top left corner
[04:10] <carlos> ok...ill bbl gonna try and restart
[04:10] <burninglegion> not blinking
[04:10] <burninglegion> acts like its not doing ne thing
[04:10] <Shuriken> as i said you before, in first i followed a french tuto
[04:11] <Shuriken> with several different things...
[04:11] <Shuriken> but it was only for GDM
[04:12] <Shuriken> that's why i followed the howto after that
[04:12] <burninglegion> well, im gonna come back tomorrow - and try to get some more help from you guys
[04:15] <bristen> hello?
[04:15] <bristen> anybody out here?
[04:16] <Shuriken> yeah, hello
[04:16] <bristen> uh, let me rephrase that: anybody here know anything about Automatix? I used to have sound, now it's gone :(
[04:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> !automatix
[04:16] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[04:17] <bristen> now that it's all done, I wish I would of done it the long way :(
[04:17] <ArthurB> Hi, can anyone using dapper confirm a crash in kopete  (4:3.5.2-0ubuntu1) ?
[04:17] <bristen> but for now, it's been installed, and I ran some application installs already...
[04:17] <bristen> just wondering how to debug a "no sound" problem?
[04:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> ArthurB: If you don't get an answer here, look in #ubuntu+1
[04:17] <ArthurB> ok
[04:17] <bristen> any "how to debug sound" somewheres?
[04:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm
[04:18] <bristen> my old beater notebook is in pretty good shape over all though
[04:19] <bristen> reconizes my house LAN, connects to my WinXP box, file sharing works.. I can browse internet, I have firefox 1.5, OO2, etc
[04:19] <kfarrell> Hiyas, I just did an apt-get kdein dapper, I like it a lot. But it seems to be missing the incremental search in KMenu?  In breezy I use Katapult for typing app names
[04:20] <bristen> alt-space, start typing app name, and it uses an incremental search
[04:20] <bristen> I'm a newb, so maybe that's not what you were looking for...
[04:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> bristen: Correcto.
[04:20] <carlos> oh yeah! had to get rid of the gui compiz editor...all is well now :)
[04:20] <carlos> thnx a bunch shuriken!
[04:21] <bristen> so, now... how to debug sound trouble?
[04:22] <Shuriken> well, i'm glad to hear it
[04:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> bristen: Not sure, sorry
[04:22] <carlos> wobbly wobbly wobbly lol
[04:23] <bristen> oh ok, I'll search the net then...
[04:23] <Shuriken> do you know all shortcuts ?
[04:23] <bristen> everything takes sooo mcuh time with Linux it seems :-(
[04:23] <solid_liq> anyone know what tools I need to develop applications for the Treo 650?
[04:23] <bristen> it's true that I'm a newb though... I should of made an image of my partition before I started making a mess with Automatix :-(
[04:24] <carlos> i think....when i alt tab how do i get rid of that window?
[04:24] <carlos> seems to be stuck
[04:24] <Shuriken> damn
[04:25] <CheeseBurgerMan> carlos: My alt-tab works like windows...
[04:25] <carlos> probably another common problm though...justglad to at least get it up :p
[04:25] <Shuriken> you can use F12 for switch too
[04:26] <carlos> oh sweet...but the "alt-tab" window wont go away :(
[04:26] <carlos> stuck on all sides of cube
[04:27] <bristen> I'vegot an easy question for you people, how do I create a root user account? I know all the story about why it doesn't create one by default...
[04:27] <Shuriken> restart X ?!
[04:27] <bristen> the other day, my HD had problemsand was asking for root... my main user password was not good enough..
[04:27] <bristen> I had to reinstall
[04:27] <Shuriken> bristen: on ubuntu there is no root acount
[04:27] <carlos> yeah thas what im doin......back in a sec
[04:28] <bristen> why do I see some lines in red? do you guys send those directly to me or it's just because my name is in the line?
[04:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> bristen: It's because your name is in the line
[04:28] <bristen> I know there is no root account by default, but I thought I read somewheres you could manually createone?
[04:29] <bristen> I would of had to reinstall if there was a root account :(
[04:29] <Shuriken> you don't need a root account on ubuntu
[04:29] <carlos> just create user bristen.....you act as root with "sudo"
[04:29] <Shuriken> the first user' pass give the admin powers
[04:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, I can't officially condone this and all that, but Control Center > System Administration > Users & Groups. Go in administrator mode, show system accounts, and then add a password for root.
[04:31] <bristen> I understand the principal behind the thing, and I won't use it... but may HAVE to if my HD crashes again.. I was not getting into my WM (KDE in my case), just a console text window
[04:31] <bristen> thanks CheeseBurgerMan, I'll try it...
[04:31] <carlos> shuriken...i think somethin is still wrong...shouldnt i HAVE to ctrl+alt to drag cube around?
[04:32] <carlos> my cube rotates just by moving mouse to edge
[04:32] <Shuriken> ctrl+alt+left mouse drag the cube or a window
[04:33] <bristen> cheeseburger: done! thanks for the info.. that's another thing I wanted done :-)
[04:33] <Shuriken> or you can use ctrl+alt+arrow keys for the cube
[04:33] <carlos> i know...but mine rotates cube without ctrl alt...all i have to do is drag mouse to edge and it rotates...weird...
[04:34] <Smeggy> anyone know how to get a Trash icon on the desktop?
[04:36] <carlos> is vanilla compiz better than regular compiz?
[04:36] <carlos> maybe i should switch?
[04:37] <Shuriken> dunno, do as you want ^^ i am not an expert in Xgl... i only installed it yesterday
[04:38] <carlos> umkay....i have to boot ino XP soon anyway to work on some music....
[04:38] <carlos> its been fun though ^^
[04:39] <Shuriken> uh, i don't have XP
[04:39] <Shuriken> well, i need to sleep :/
[04:39] <carlos> gnite....hope to see you around :)
[04:39] <Shuriken> good luck with Xgl !
[04:39] <carlos> thnx you as well
[04:39] <Shuriken> good bye all.
[04:42] <bristen> thanks all, I'm out
[04:54] <zblach> hey, how do I get samba connections working? i've an existing windows network i'd like to connect to. kubuntu 5.10+kde 3.5.1
[04:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> smb://host/share/
[05:35] <gleesond> how do I get the dvd drives not to be shown on the desktop?
[05:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Control Center > Desktop > Behavior
[05:35] <Apostle^> hehe CheeseBurgerMan helped me with that earlier toda
[05:36] <lutra> CheeseBurgerMan: are you the guy from the mcdonald's commericals?
[05:37] <_pip> .clear
[05:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> lutra: No
[05:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> Apostle^: I remember. :P
[05:38] <Apostle^> ;-D
[05:46] <gleesond> CheeseBurgerMan: thanks
[05:48] <arafat> i am drunk......... good  night good fight!
[05:50] <n3ck> hi
[05:51] <suyog>
[05:51] <n3ck> theres some way to install amarok 1.4 beta 3 in breezy?
[05:56] <laszlok> n3ck: you can compile taglib1.4 yourself but its not advised unless you know what you are doing
[06:01] <cabajgtr> Does anybody know how to fix taskbar icons that are opening as windows instead of taskbar items?
[06:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> You mean they don't show in the taskbar?
[06:02] <cabajgtr> nope
[06:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> Nope meaning they don't show in the taskbar, or nope meaning that I'm wrong?
[06:03] <cabajgtr> no, sorry they are applets, they are showing in the taskbar but should be by the clock
[06:03] <cabajgtr> the applets are in their own windows each
[06:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ah
[06:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hrm, still not sure what you're talking about.
[06:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> You mean they're on a different panel?
[06:04] <cabajgtr> my volume icon, power gauge, adept notifier, all as windows, not apples
[06:04] <cabajgtr> applets
[06:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh, the system tray
[06:05] <cabajgtr> yes, sorry, the word wasnt coming to me
[06:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, NP
[06:05] <CheeseBurgerMan> Do you have the applet handles showing?
[06:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> So you have a little bar & arrow by each different applet?
[06:06] <cabajgtr> no, they aren't in the taskbar at all
[06:06] <_pip> how to speed up my kget ?
[06:06] <cabajgtr> the little icon is in a little window, i can resize it just like my konversation window
[06:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK...I'm not sure what to do - can you take a screenshot so I can get a better idea of what you're talking about?
[06:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'Cause frankly, I'm a bit confused.
[06:09] <cabajgtr> ok, i have a screenshot, how should i send it?
[06:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> imageshack should work fine
[06:09] <cabajgtr> ?
[06:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://www.imageshack.us
[06:12] <cabajgtr> http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5738/snapshot17ld.png
[06:12] <cabajgtr> thats a nifty little site
[06:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> Thanks
[06:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> yes it is. ;)
[06:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's strange. Never seen that before
[06:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> What happens when you add the system tray applet?
[06:13] <cabajgtr> might be somthing related to Xgl/compiz...
[06:13] <ArthurB>  fonts... ugly... eyes
[06:14] <cabajgtr> it let me add an applet
[06:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> And I assume nothing happened
[06:16] <cabajgtr> no, log in/out icon show in the system tray
[06:17] <cabajgtr> but i killed and restarted knetworkmanager, and it came back the same
[06:17] <cabajgtr> in a window
[06:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm
[06:20] <cabajgtr> hmm ok, I'm going to see if it always does it.. I've only rebooted 2x since I got compiz working
[06:30] <tburdick> whats the meta package for all the dev stuff
[06:30] <tburdick> I manage to ALWAYS forget
[06:31] <robotgeek> build-essential TheMonoTone
[06:31] <TheMonoTone> why can't they just call it dev something something
[06:31] <TheMonoTone> I never think build
[06:33] <[muttox] > can someone help me with getting mp3s to work with amarok under dapper?
[06:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> [muttox] : What engine are you using?
[06:41] <Pool> hello
[06:41] <Pool> can someone help me out for a second?
[06:41] <Blaxtic> pool - sup?
[06:41] <Pool> hi there
[06:41] <Pool> I cant set my screen resolution
[06:42] <Pool> its set to 1024x768 is my xorg.conf
[06:42] <Blaxtic> and it boots to 640X480?
[06:42] <Pool> but in the kde display box it doesnt give me an option for 1024x768
[06:42] <Pool> so its stuck in 800x600
[06:42] <Pool> and looks really really awful
[06:43] <Blaxtic> you on a laptop?  widescreen?
[06:43] <Pool> laptop
[06:43] <Blaxtic> what's the optimal?
[06:43] <Pool> the laptop will run in 1024x768, Im positive of that
[06:43] <Pool> optimal?
[06:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ideal
[06:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> typical
[06:43] <Blaxtic> all laptops have a native resolution
[06:43] <Pool> 1024x768
[06:43] <evil-doer> the actual pixel resolution of the display
[06:43] <Blaxtic> anything else looks like crap
[06:44] <scrooge> amg hai
[06:44] <Pool> 1024x768 is the optimal
[06:44] <Pool> hola scrooge
[06:44] <scrooge> werd
[06:44] <Blaxtic> Pool: do you have the specs?
[06:44] <Pool> the exact specs? hmm not really
[06:44] <Blaxtic> what brand?  you need to modify your conf file to meet the specs of the laptop display
[06:44] <Pool> its an older laptop
[06:45] <Pool> its a dell latitude
[06:45] <Pool> my conf file is editted correctly
[06:45] <Pool> its the display manager part of kde that I cant change or something
[06:45] <Pool> I think anyways
[06:45] <Pool> <--lost
[06:46] <Blaxtic> i can't tell you how to do it through the display manager...  mine never worked to begin with, so I just set the exact specs it should be in the conf file and everything works.
[06:47] <Pool> for my xorg.conf my default is 24 and 24 is set to 1024x768
[06:47] <Blaxtic> in fact, you probably can't do it through the display manager since it's optimized for only the most popular specs... yours is likely different.
[06:47] <Pool> I havent rebooted since changing that, but didnt think that that would require ti
[06:47] <Pool> *it
[06:48] <Blaxtic> no - you need a lot more info than just that.  just a sec.
[06:49] <Pool> ok
[06:51] <cabajgtr> Ok, i found out more, but still dont know how to fix it
[06:51] <Blaxtic> Pool: go here - hey - i've got a question about linux on the alpha. anyone game?
[06:51] <Blaxtic> oops... heh
[06:52] <Pool> lol
[06:52] <cabajgtr> "The process for the system protocol died unexpectedly"
[06:52] <Blaxtic> Pool - go here http://www.linux-laptop.net
[06:53] <Blaxtic> Pool: what model do you have?
[06:54] <Pool> no idea
[06:54] <Pool> err eait
[06:54] <Pool> *wait
[06:54] <Pool> latitude cpi
[06:54] <Blaxtic> you should be able to find the exact model number somewhere
[06:54] <Pool> d266xt
[06:55] <Pool> where is the XF86Config file located?
[06:56] <Blaxtic> Pool: here - http://www.radcyberzine.com/linux/linux-dell.html
[06:56] <Blaxtic> Pool: you're using xorg
[06:58] <Pool> o
[06:59] <Blaxtic> Pool: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:02] <Pool> what am I looking to change in there?
[07:03] <Pool> all the values are at 1024x768
[07:07] <Blaxtic> Pool: okay - look here. look under xorg.conf. backup your current one and use this one: http://home.nedlinux.nl/~bart/?page=11
[07:08] <Blaxtic> Pool: all you're actually wanting out of this is Device, Monitor, and Screen
[07:10] <sean13_> hey, anyone know of an application that will record video from a webcam?
[07:20] <nighty> hi, i've managed to upgrade kubuntu to use binary ATI drivers, but I'm not sure how to upgrade KDE to 3.5 using apt-get, any webpages out there that document this problem?
[07:20] <nighty> i found https://wiki.kubuntu.org/InstallingKDE - but not much is there
[07:22] <nighty> i also found http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde352/dists/breezy/
[07:23] <solid_liq> is there an nxclient/nxserver in apt?
[07:23] <solid_liq> nighty: yeah, there is a webpage for that
[07:23] <solid_liq> nighty: I think I found a link from www.kde.org, but I'm not positive
[07:23] <solid_liq> nighty: I did it like a month ago
[07:24] <solid_liq> nighty: you there?
[07:25] <Squirrel> Hello.
[07:25] <nighty> yep, i
[07:25] <nighty> i'm here
[07:25] <nighty> just looking at the apt-sources file
[07:25] <solid_liq> alright, I'll check mine for ya
[07:25] <nighty> thanks mate
[07:26] <solid_liq> ########  For KDE 3.5.2
[07:26] <solid_liq> deb http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/software/kde/stable/3.5.2/kubuntu breezy main
[07:26] <solid_liq> nighty: found it:
[07:26] <solid_liq> look up :P
[07:27] <solid_liq> then I think you just do,   apt-get update,  apt-get install kde
[07:27] <nighty> yep ive found a similar repository closer to my country (australia)
[07:27] <nighty> but what do I tell apt-get to use this repository?
[07:27] <solid_liq> k, I'm sure that'll work better for you then ;)
[07:27] <solid_liq> nighty: apt-get update
[07:27] <nighty> ahhh
[07:28] <Squirrel> Excuse me. Is anyone available to answer some questions?
[07:28] <nighty> but in terms of the keyword 'kde', won't it just update a point release to 3.4.+x ?
[07:28] <solid_liq> you should do that followed by     apt-get upgrade     regularly to pick up any security updates, like in a cron job
[07:28] <solid_liq> nighty: no it shouldn't
[07:29] <nighty> ok let me try it
[07:29] <solid_liq> Squirrel: here on freenode.net, the rule is to just ask your question, don't ask if it's okay to ask it
[07:29] <Blaxtic> Squirrel: sorry - shoot
[07:29] <Squirrel> OK:
[07:29] <nighty> Squirrel: just ask
[07:29] <Pool> brb
[07:29] <Squirrel> I just tried the Live CD version, but need more information before being willing to install it.
[07:29] <solid_liq> Squirrel: oh, and if noone answers, that just means that no one knows the answer
[07:30] <nighty> solid_liq: "E: Package kde has no installation candidate"
[07:30] <Squirrel> I need a firewall, first of all, and some way of getting it to recognize my USB drive, and a way to access Python.
[07:30] <Squirrel> I know Python's on there, but can't find the equivalent of IDLE.
[07:30] <Blaxtic> or, that nobody is paying any attention at the moment. ;-)
[07:31] <solid_liq> nighty: try kdelibs, kdebase, kdenetwork, kdemultimedia, kdepim, kdeutils, kdeaddons, kdegraphics then
[07:31] <Blaxtic> Squirrel: whoa... on problem at a time. hehheh.
[07:31] <solid_liq> Squirrel: for IDLE, just do (at a shell):           apt-get install idle
[07:32] <nighty> Squirrel: Unbunta out of the box should be able to detect your USB drive
[07:32] <solid_liq> Squirrel: your USB drive should show up on /dev/sda or /dev/sdb
[07:32] <Squirrel> When I plug in the USB drive, it automatically gives me an error. =p
[07:32] <solid_liq> Squirrel: so it may automount for you though
[07:32] <solid_liq> Squirrel: look in /mnt for that
[07:32] <Blaxtic> Squirrel: what version you running?
[07:33] <Squirrel> I downloaded the Live CD version of... Breezy Badger Kubuntu.
[07:33] <nighty> solid_liq: thats a bit dodgy, to be required to manually specify each sub-package
[07:33] <solid_liq> Squirrel: as for a firewall, do (at a shell):         apt-get install beagle
[07:33] <solid_liq> Squirrel: then run beagle to configure your firewall
[07:33] <Squirrel> How do I get the shell?
[07:33] <solid_liq> nighty: yeah
[07:34] <nighty> Squirrel: look for a Terminal Program
[07:34] <Blaxtic> Squirrell: should be under System -> Konsole
[07:34] <solid_liq> nighty: try google, you may find the howto page I used.  Too bad I didn't think to bookmark it
[07:34] <solid_liq> nighty: I think I may have actually found the link for it on slashdot
[07:34] <nighty> Squirrel: I just threw in my USB drive into a brand new install of Ubunta, and it was detected fine
[07:34] <nighty> Squirrel: it will automatically mount the drive under a directory /media
[07:35] <solid_liq> oh that's right
[07:35] <Squirrel> So if I do those install commands for IDLE and Beagle, those'll be installed so that they'll be accessible thereafter without the shell?
[07:35] <solid_liq> Squirrel: yep
[07:35] <Squirrel> Assuming I've installed the full version rather than running off the CD, I guess.
[07:35] <Blaxtic> the only problem i've ever had witha  usb drive (actually a usb pen drive) is it wouldn't reboot with it plugged in.. i've never had a problem with plugging it in and it automatically detecting and mounting it.
[07:35] <solid_liq> Squirrel: it'll automatically download it from the net and install it
[07:36] <nighty> Squirrel: you won't need to goto a shell, just use the file manager and navigate to /media
[07:36] <Squirrel> Nighty: I plugged in the USB drive, it complained, and it didn't show up. Unfortunatly I don't recall the exact message.
[07:36] <solid_liq> nighty: no he does to install beagle and idle
[07:36] <Squirrel> Downloading the firewall from the Net? Um, that'd mean going online with no firewall.
[07:36] <nighty> solid_liq: surely apt-get has a better way to handle dependances than installing each package?
[07:37] <solid_liq> Squirrel: this is Linux, not windows, you'll be safe enough
[07:37] <solid_liq> nighty: how are the dependencies going to be available if they're not installed?
[07:37] <Squirrel> I'll need some way to transfer files between Windows and Linux modes, so that means either getting the USB drive working or getting Net access.
[07:37] <nighty> Squirrel: if you have a DSL router infront of your computer, its safe enough until you figure out how to restrict out-going traffic etc
[07:37] <nighty> especially if you're NAT'd
[07:37] <Squirrel> So I'll have to configure my WiFi card, I guess.
[07:37] <solid_liq> Squirrel: you can use the internet with linux without a firewall
[07:38] <solid_liq> Squirrel: you won't get hit by a virus, worm, or hacker
[07:38] <solid_liq> Squirrel: with Linux a firewall is more of a good idea than an absolute necessity
[07:38] <nighty> solid_liq: i mean, the package mgmt system should be able to work out which to install based on a package keyword, if i say install 'lde352' it should just do it ;)
[07:39] <Blaxtic> Squirrel: don't worry... be happy... install kubuntu... ;-)
[07:39] <Squirrel> Hm. How much hard drive space do I need to devote to this?
[07:39] <solid_liq> Squirrel: installing?
[07:39] <nighty> do you think throwing in those URLs in the apt-sources file will assist in this process?
[07:39] <solid_liq> Squirrel: you mean to beagle and idle?
[07:39] <Squirrel> Yes. I plan to download the full version, since I figure I need that to actually store files.
[07:39] <solid_liq> Squirrel: probably just a few megs
[07:40] <Squirrel> So it will want to create a HD partition for itself, right?
[07:40] <Squirrel> No, not for those specific apps. The OS.
[07:40] <solid_liq> Squirrel: software for Linux isn't way overbloated like windows software
[07:40] <solid_liq> Squirrel: oh
[07:40] <solid_liq> Squirrel: just a sec, lemme check
[07:40] <Blaxtic> Squirrel: depends on your connection.... how fast is your download?
[07:41] <Squirrel> Very fast.
[07:41] <Blaxtic> broadband?
[07:41] <solid_liq> Squirrel: my Kubuntu with lots of software installed is using about 4.3 Gigs right now
[07:41] <Squirrel> Yes.
[07:42] <Blaxtic> Squirrel: don't worry - it'll finish downloading and installing those within 10 minutes prolly.
[07:42] <Squirrel> The firewall?
[07:42] <solid_liq> nighty: sorry, just saw your msg.  Seriously look for the howto, it'll clear up all confusion.  I'm sorry, I'm relatively new to Ubuntu, though I've been using other linux distros for six years
[07:43] <solid_liq> Squirrel: for me beagle will install in like 30 seconds
[07:43] <solid_liq> Squirrel: IDLE in like 2 or 3 minutes prolly
[07:43] <Squirrel> I'll have to configue my wireless card first, I guess.
[07:43] <Blaxtic> no - no need
[07:43] <solid_liq> Squirrel: how are you on irc?
[07:43] <Blaxtic> it's already install right?
[07:43] <Squirrel> I'm running Win XP.
[07:43] <isilzha> hi. did anybody in here succeed to run maguma workbench? somehow i start to believe this won't work on debian or kubuntu
[07:44] <solid_liq> ah
[07:44] <Blaxtic> ah
[07:44] <Blaxtic> oh..
[07:44] <Blaxtic> hell...
[07:44] <Squirrel> ?
[07:44] <Blaxtic> sorry - i thought you were running off the live cd right now.,
[07:44] <Squirrel> No.
[07:44] <solid_liq> you can always use an ethernet cable to connect first, then follow the online docs for configuring the wireless and switching to the wireless connection once you have it configured.  That's my preferred way of doing it.
[07:45] <Blaxtic> some laptops can be a bitch to get going.... others are easy...  sometimes it does take a bit of work to get all hardware on a laptop working with linux - especially if you're using windows only hardware such as the broadcom nic's
[07:45] <solid_liq> Isil`Zha: what's maguma workbench?
[07:46] <Pool> Blaxtic:
[07:46] <Pool> thanks for the help, got it sorted
[07:46] <Pool> appreciate it :)
[07:46] <Blaxtic> np
[07:46] <solid_liq> I hate broadcom wireless nics
[07:46] <Squirrel> I'm actually looking into Linux because of the recent wave of pro-spyware legislation.
[07:46] <solid_liq> I bought an atheros based one just so I wouldn't have to deal with the broadcom bullshit
[07:47] <Isil`Zha> solid_liq: a php ide. unfortunately only shipped as redhat or suse. the installation seems to be successful though
[07:47] <solid_liq> Squirrel: once you get fully settled into linux, you'll look down your nose at windows and avoid using it like the plague
[07:47] <solid_liq> Isil`Zha: you can always try KDevelop too and see if you like that instead
[07:48] <Blaxtic> Pool: i did what solid_liq is talking about... i used the built in nic which was automatically detected and intalled while i researched and finally figured out how to configure my wifi to work with kubuntu.
[07:48] <solid_liq> Squirrel: which reminds me, you might want to give KDevelop a try too in order to see if you like it better than IDLE
[07:48] <Squirrel> I'm finding the transition tricky. Kubuntu's supposed to be a user-friendly version, but it could use a tutorial saying "this is how you find files on your hard drive, this is how you install programs."
[07:48] <Isil`Zha> solid_liq: i tried but i need something more targeted on php. it's not bad though
[07:49] <Blaxtic> Squirrel: it's out there
[07:49] <Blaxtic> just a sec
[07:49] <solid_liq> Isil`Zha: ah ok.  I mostly develop in C++ and C, and sometimes just use a little Python, but I use vim and it works for me, so...
[07:49] <Squirrel> Solid: KDevelop? I'll look. I was able to create a new file on the desktop, give it a .py extension, and doodle some code with the editor apparently knowing how to autoformat it. But then I couldn't figure out how to run the thing or call console commands!
[07:50] <Squirrel> And I had to dig through the files just to confirm that Python was installed; it'd be helpful to have an icon for Python somewhere.
[07:50] <solid_liq> if any of you coders are old school, you may want to give vim a try.  It has a steep learning curve at first, but it's great once you get the hang of its very different ways of doing things
[07:50] <Isil`Zha> solid_liq: yes i keep getting forwared to vim. :) it might not be a bad thing but i'm not familiar with vim at all and i fear i end up learning vim more than i actually program php
[07:50] <solid_liq> Isil`Zha: just type:    vim-tutor
[07:51] <solid_liq> Isil`Zha: it'll take a half an hour to go through the tutorial, but it'll be worth it
[07:51] <solid_liq> Squirrel: if you used Kate to edit it, then it can run terminal commands for you
[07:52] <Isil`Zha> solid_liq: ok i'll see if it is what i search. thank you
[07:52] <Squirrel> Well, there was some kind of "console" command, that gave me a little line to type in. I typed "print 2+2" and it gave an error.
[07:52] <solid_liq> Squirrel: but if you're coding in Python, you should get at least a little bit comfortable with the shell anyway.   Oh, I can use the shell that's part of IDLE in Windows.
[07:53] <solid_liq> Squirrel: that's probably not a dos shell but a python shell...  it's different :)
[07:53] <Squirrel> Python shell, yes.
[07:53] <solid_liq> Squirrel: here's a nice trick for ya:  on the first line of your python scripts, enter the following text
[07:54] <solid_liq> #!/usr/bin/env python
[07:54] <Squirrel> Which does?
[07:54] <solid_liq> Squirrel: then make the file executable, either by editing the file permissions in the properties dialog for the file, on in a shell by typing:      chmod +x myprog.py
[07:55] <solid_liq> Squirrel: then the file itself will run when double clicked on or its name is typed at the shell
[07:55] <solid_liq> Squirrel: because that line I told you to put at the beginning tells the shell where to find the interpreter to run the file through
[07:56] <Squirrel> So "chmod" changes file permissions?
[07:56] <Blaxtic> ouch...
[07:57] <Squirrel> I don't want to release my source code.
[07:57] <solid_liq> Squirrel: it just changes local file permissions, that's all.  The +x tells it to turn on the execute bit
[07:58] <solid_liq> Squirrel: you mean the precompiled .pyo files?
[07:59] <Squirrel> I'm not sure what you mean. In Windows I have .py files that get compiled (I think) into .pyc files, but when I want to actually share a program I build an EXE.
[07:59] <Blaxtic> okay - is anyone here familure with the alpha processor or linux running on the alpha?
[08:00] <Blaxtic> Squirrel: you don't have "exe" on linux... it's either executable or it isn't
[08:00] <Squirrel> Is there a version of a Python program that can be distributed but not reverse-engineered?
[08:01] <Blaxtic> you don't have .com, .cmd, .bat, .exe....  tho you might have .z, .gz, tar, etc.
[08:01] <solid_liq> Squirrel: oh yeah, there are .pyc files too.  You can do the same on Linux, I'm just not sure how.  After 6 years with Linux the opensource philosophy has sunk into my brain and the idea of not giving out the source code for something I wrote in my spare time never enters my brain
[08:01] <solid_liq> Squirrel: and for work I use C/C++ so...
[08:01] <Squirrel> Hm; I'm just a hobbyist but I'd like to develop something that'd actually make me a living.
[08:02] <solid_liq> what Blaxtic is getting at is Linux doesn't use file extensions to determine what kind of a file a file is, it uses metadata
[08:02] <solid_liq> Squirrel: you mean to start your own company, or just get yourself ready to get a job programming at an existing company?
[08:03] <Squirrel> Maybe the first one, someday.
[08:03] <solid_liq> Squirrel: then you'll probably need to develop the software in C++ anyway
[08:04] <solid_liq> Squirrel: professional shrinkwrapped apps are always written in C++, or to a much lesser extent nowadays, C
[08:04] <Blaxtic> dagnabbit...
[08:05] <solid_liq> Blaxtic: you're using kopete for irc?
[08:05] <Blaxtic> yeah... hate the damn thing...
[08:05] <Squirrel> I take it that if I boot from the Live CD, anything I do vanishes on shutdown?
[08:06] <solid_liq> Blaxtic: heh, I was just going to ask how it was for irc because I never tried;  I use Konversation.  It's pretty cool.  KSirc is a little more flushed out, but I'm using Konversation anyway :P
[08:06] <solid_liq> Squirrel: no, you can save data to a USB drive or to some space on the hard drive
[08:07] <Squirrel> How do I save to the hard drive?
[08:07] <solid_liq> Squirrel: but running off the LiveCD sucks because it's SOOOO SLOOOOW
[08:07] <Blaxtic> yeah i used to use konversation - liked it, but it didn't support jabber... moved to kopete because it offered a lot more proto's
[08:07] <solid_liq> Squirrel: I'm not sure, I've never run a LiveCD long enough to worry about it, I just know you can :)  sorry
[08:08] <solid_liq> Blaxtic: well I always have kopete running for all my IM, I just use konversation for IRC
[08:08] <carlos> hello...anyone running compiz/xgl  :)
[08:09] <solid_liq> carlos: I've tried it, it's cool, but it needs more than just a desktop switcher to be worthwhile
[08:09] <solid_liq> carlos: and if you have ATI video hardware, forget about it
[08:09] <carlos> yeah its fun....needs to be polished, definitely
[08:09] <Blaxtic> xgl... i don't have the balls to run it just yet... waiting for it to get a bit less buggy first.
[08:09] <Squirrel> What do you think of XSFE?
[08:10] <solid_liq> Blaxtic: just get that live cd that has it preconfigured.  The one that's based on gentoo
[08:10] <Blaxtic> hrm... maybe i'll try that out... used to run gentoo anyway so shouldn't be too bad.
[08:10] <solid_liq> but it doesn't work at all on my two computers that have ATI video
[08:11] <solid_liq> Blaxtic: heheh, me too.  I switched to Ubuntu when I got sick and tired of all the compiling :D
[08:11] <Blaxtic> lmao - same here
[08:11] <solid_liq> :D
[08:11] <Squirrel> Huh. About half the download speed tonight.
[08:12] <Blaxtic> :-( sorry Squirrel...
[08:12] <Squirrel> Eh.
[08:12] <Squirrel> Well, thanks for the help.
[08:13] <Blaxtic> i got 5 cd's of solaris tonight and they were all going at 600KB/s
[08:13] <solid_liq> my previous internet connection gave me a full 1 MB/s so long as the server I was pulling from had enough free bandwidth :D
[08:14] <solid_liq> now I'm temporarily on 1.5 Mbit DSL :(
[08:14] <Squirrel> G'night!
[08:14] <solid_liq> Squirrel: night
[08:14] <Blaxtic> yepper.. that's the deal with broadband
[08:14] <Blaxtic> l8r squirrel
[08:14] <Blaxtic> so.. i take it there are no alpha users here?
[08:14] <Blaxtic> (or ex-users?)
[08:14] <solid_liq> well I was in an area where I could get 8 Mbit cablemodem :D
[08:15] <solid_liq> Blaxtic: why are you asking?
[08:15] <Blaxtic> i have one as of tonight... a compaq ds10 600Mhz 64-bit alpha server
[08:16] <solid_liq> and you want to know what distro will run on it?
[08:16] <Blaxtic> well - i was going to throw solaris on it, but...
[08:16] <solid_liq> but solaris sucks compared to Linux?  :D
[08:16] <Blaxtic> i want it to be more of a a desktop...
[08:17] <Blaxtic> yeah, well.. it depends on the application, eh. ;-)
[08:17] <solid_liq> Blaxtic: really?  why do you want to use a 600 Mhz machine for a desktop?
[08:18] <Blaxtic> well, not really a desktop - really a server, but a server that runs FreeNX (it will be headless) and can serve as a workstation...
[08:18] <Blaxtic> mainly just an experimental box...
[08:18] <solid_liq> Blaxtic: ah
[08:18] <solid_liq> Blaxtic: well, I know gentoo supports the Alpha  ;)
[08:19] <Blaxtic> yeah yeah... i've thought about it, i just can't convince myself to go back to all the downloading and compiling of source...  maybe i should though...
[08:19] <Blaxtic> another thing is, gentoo isn't supported by many software vendors.
[08:19] <solid_liq> Blaxtic: I would bet there's a version of Debian for it too
[08:20] <Blaxtic> yep - there is
[08:20] <solid_liq> Blaxtic: dunno how much recent support there'd be for it though
[08:20] <solid_liq> Blaxtic: you might still have to do a lot of compiling yourself anyway
[08:20] <Blaxtic> debian, gentoo, bsd, solaris
[08:20] <solid_liq> Blaxtic: and actually have to manually configure everything
[08:20] <solid_liq> I'd say try debian first
[08:21] <solid_liq> it'll be a lot faster to install then gentoo :D
[08:21] <Blaxtic> lol
[08:21] <Blaxtic> yeah - maybe i'll do that.
[08:22] <Blaxtic> i've already gotten my solaris cd's downloaded.... maybe i'll download the latest debian release and try that first...
[08:22] <solid_liq> the solaris hardware support will probably suck anyway
[08:22] <solid_liq> brb
[08:22] <Blaxtic> well the solaris version i downloaded is made specifically for the this type of machine
[08:22] <Blaxtic> k
[09:33] <kubulikidd> hi all. I'm having trouble booting my system. deleted some files i think i shouldn't have
[09:34] <kubulikidd> need some help please
[09:36] <me2win> kubulikidd: which files
[09:37] <kubulikidd> me2win : not sure. I used adapt to remove files i think i didn't need. Now it won't boot up fully
[09:37] <kubulikidd> me2win: adept sry
[09:37] <me2win> kubulikidd: try doing a dist-upgrade
[09:38] <kubulikidd> me2win: do i need net access to do that? Cause I may have removed dhcp
[09:39] <me2win> yeah you do
[09:39] <kubulikidd> oops
[09:40] <kubulikidd> so i'm screwed then!!!
[09:40] <me2win> lol
[09:40] <me2win> gotta try
[09:40] <me2win> otherwise back up your /home and reinstall
[09:41] <kubulikidd> i thought so.
[09:41] <kubulikidd> thing is I started removing some progs and fell asleep at the monitor. god knows what else i removed
[09:42] <kubulikidd> how do i go about backing up?
[09:44] <kubulikidd> ooooooooooooooooo
[09:44] <kubulikidd> cccccccccc
[09:45] <kubulikidd> cccccccccccccccccccccccccxxxxxxxxxll#
[09:46] <kubulikidd> .......
[09:47] <_pip> kubulikidd: hello!
[09:48] <kubulikidd> sorry. my daughter gotto the keyboard
[09:50] <kacper> hej, mam problem: co wpisa w fstab'ie eby zamontowa partycj ntfs? jak robi na defaults, to mi zmienia uprawnienia folderu w ktorym montuje, tak ze tylko root moze zobaczyc
[09:50] <kacper> reszte montuje na vfat i wszystko pieknie
[09:51] <_pip> kacper: ni shuo shenme nme ?
[09:52] <_pip> kacper: wo zenme kan bu dong a ?
[09:52] <_pip> kacper: ni  hui shuo ying yu ma ?
[09:52] <Kev1n> ?????????????????
[09:52] <kacper> i'm sorry, -pip, i don't understand your language
[09:53] <_pip> kacper: ni shi na ge guo jia de a ?
[09:54] <kacper> hi, i've got problem: what to enter in fstab to use ntfs partition? when i use defaults, then only root can see contains of folder
[09:54] <kacper> i mount rest of my partitons on vfat and everything's clear
[09:56] <_pip> kacper: it is dangerous
[09:56] <kacper> why?
[09:56] <_pip> kacper: last time ,I lose my MBR ,very dangerous
[09:57] <kacper> but now i can't transfer my winshit's data to kubuntu
[09:58] <kubulikidd> pip: hello pip
[09:58] <_pip> kubulikidd: Hi
[10:02] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: sorry - I missed your msg
[10:03] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : used adept to remove some progs last night. now i can't get it to boot up normally
[10:03] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: what did you remove?
[10:04] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : well, i not sure. i removed what i thought was safe. now DHCP won't load
[10:04] <thoreauputic> !tell kacper about mountwindows
[10:05] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: won't load as in you can't get a lease?
[10:05] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : i'll try booting again and note all the features fail
[10:05] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : not sure what that means
[10:07] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: in a terminal, what does    dpkg -l dhcp-client    say ?
[10:07] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : let me check
[10:11] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: hello ?
[10:13] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : sry. the pc is on another floor.
[10:13] <alfatau> hello, why i can't download the dapper dvd iso with wget? it downloads 0Bytes and then terminates.
[10:13] <alfatau> from: http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/kubuntu/dvd/current/dapper-dvd-i386.iso
[10:14] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: so you can't get on line with the Ubuntu/Kubuntu PC?
[10:14] <kacper> thank you very very much
[10:14] <kacper> see you later
[10:14] <kubulikidd> noo
[10:15] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: do you still have my email address<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Maybe it would be a better way to do this
[10:15] <kubulikidd> yes
[10:16] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: so send the output of that command and we'll go from there
[10:18] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : ok. might take a while cause i have to write everything down then send from this pc
[10:19] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: well, I'm on line for about 2 to 3 hours from now
[10:19] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: I might not be able to answer immediately though
[10:23] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: actually also send the output of   dpkg -l dhcp3-client  (that should be installed I would think)
[10:24] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : it reads <none> (no description available)
[10:24] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: try  sudo apt-get install dhcp3-client
[10:25] <thoreauputic> it should say " already the newest version" - if not, install it
[10:25] <thoreauputic> but the catch is you will need your install CD
[10:26] <thoreauputic> and it needs to be in your /etc/apt/sources.list file ( the CD)
[10:27] <kubulikidd>  thoreauputic : dhcp3-client    3.0.2-1ubuntu7 DHCPclient
[10:28] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: hm OK
[10:28] <thoreauputic> you have it then
[10:28] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: what actually happens when you try to get on line?
[10:29] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : well, I can only log on in recovery mode. can't get a GUI
[10:29] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: ah I see
[10:29] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: from recovery mode, try   /etc/init.d/kdm start
[10:29] <thoreauputic> assuming you run kubuntu
[10:30] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : yes. i do
[10:30] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: so see if that command works to get a login screen
[10:30] <thoreauputic> from the root prompt in recovery mode
[10:30] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic ; let me try that. be right back
[10:30] <thoreauputic> k
[10:32] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic ; nothing happened
[10:32] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: as in no output at all ??
[10:32] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic ; but i did  ping yahoo.com and i got a reply
[10:33] <thoreauputic> OK well you are on line
[10:33] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : yes. just returned the prompt
[10:33] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: what does   which kdm  say ?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> just   which kdm
[10:33] <kubulikidd> hold
[10:35] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic ; it returns nothing
[10:35] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: run this
[10:35] <thoreauputic> oh hang on a sec
[10:35] <thoreauputic> OK
[10:35] <thoreauputic> run this
[10:36] <thoreauputic> sudo apt-get install kdm
[10:36] <kubulikidd> ok
[10:36] <thoreauputic> then run
[10:36] <thoreauputic> /etc/init.d/kdm restart
 whats my hd number and partition if i have my /boot on /dev/hda1
[10:37] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : apt-get command not found
[10:37] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: you seem to be in deep trouble...
[10:37] <kubulikidd> lol
[10:37] <kubulikidd> i know
[10:38] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: what's your user name ?
[10:38] <Shan`> sudo?
[10:38] <thoreauputic> Shan`: she's at a recovery prompt
[10:38] <Shan`> k
[10:38] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: you are seeing a # prompt, right?
[10:38] <thoreauputic> ie root prompt
[10:39] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: try changing to your user and then using sudo like this:
[10:39] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic: ~$
[10:39] <Shan`> ./dev/hda1 = (hd0,0)?
[10:39] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: erm
[10:39] <Shan`> cos grubs giving me an error
[10:39] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: that isn't recovery mode then
[10:40] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : oh? sorry
[10:40] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: try  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:40] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: what does the command   whoami   return ?
[10:41] <kubulikidd> hold pls
[10:42] <cyberserver> Hi people. I'm setting up kubuntu on a AMD64 machine, but I', not willing to deal with 64 bit problems like not having Java Sun, flash plugin or whatver... so I decided to do a 32 bit install... Can I use a optimized kernel or do I need to use the -386 one? Is -k7 kernel better for AMD64 machines than -i386 kernel?
[10:42] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: if the system can't find apt-get you are in deep trouble
[10:42] <Tm_T> cyberserver: sure -k7 is better
[10:43] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: you can try running  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  ( ahs been known to fix a borked system)
[10:43] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : whoami   returned lyndy
[10:43] <thoreauputic> *has
[10:43] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: as expected
[10:43] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd:  so,,,,
[10:44] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[10:44] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: I think your whole system is broken
[10:44] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic: ok
[10:44] <cyberserver> Tm_T : Thanks. I was not sure as AMD64 is called "k8" and the installer does not install -k7 kernel autommatically (if I use this installer in a p4, it will install a -686 kernel)
[10:44] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: leave most things at default and don't be too worried about the questions
[10:45] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: it should ask for a root password, if it works at all...
[10:46] <[muttox] > trying to get mp3s to work with amarok under dapper, could someone point out what package id need for that?
[10:47] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[10:47] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[10:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:48] <[muttox] > yeah tried installing everythign under dapper in the list, still doesnt play
[10:48] <noiesmo> [muttox] , I use xmms for mp3
[10:48] <thoreauputic> [muttox] : try installin amarok-xine and selecting the xine engine in amarok
[10:49] <[muttox] > thoreauputic: already done it doesnt play anything though
[10:50] <thoreauputic> [muttox] : try asking in #ubuntu+1  for dapper questions
[10:50] <[muttox] > ta
[10:50] <noiesmo> [muttox] , or use xmms
[10:51] <[muttox] > lol normally i would, but i want to test an integrated environment, so i can recommend it to others
[10:51] <[muttox] > gentoo is a little too much for the people i want to get using linux
[10:51] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : sry that did not work either
[10:52] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: define "didn't work"
[10:52] <thoreauputic> what happened?
[10:52] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : i also changed t osuperuser and no output
[10:52] <kubulikidd> changed to a # at the prompt
[10:52] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: when you typed  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  you got no output at all ?
[10:53] <thoreauputic> not even "command not found" ?
[10:54] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: you didn't do anything silly like using automatix, did you ?
[10:54] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : it returned command not found
[10:54] <kubulikidd> no. did not use automatix
[10:54] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: then your system is totally b0rked, sorry
[10:54] <kubulikidd> lol
[10:55] <kubulikidd> have got the install cd
[10:55] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: I have no idea what you did to get to this point
[10:55] <kubulikidd> i guess thats the last resort
[10:55] <thoreauputic> it's almost impossible to break dpkg like that...
[10:55] <kubulikidd> can i back up my /home?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: use a live CD, and tranfer your data over the network if possible
[10:56] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : can i find the missing files from the cd? Using the recovery prompt?
[10:57] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: you must have uninstalled something crucial, methinks
[10:57] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: now you can't use dpkg or apt-get at all it seems
[10:57] <kubulikidd> ok
[10:58] <thoreauputic> how you managed to do that is another question...
[10:58] <thoreauputic> you musthave real talent ;-)
[10:58] <thoreauputic> just kidding :)
[10:58] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : I think its a lack of talent rather
[10:58] <kubulikidd> lol
[10:58] <thoreauputic> :)
[10:59] <thoreauputic> sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings
[10:59] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : well, thanks for  your help. you've been great.
[10:59] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: in general if you're about to do something terminal , apt tends to spit out a lot of dire warnings to stop you breaking your system
[10:59] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic: i've got a copy in of my files in windows anyway
[11:00] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: OK - well I think this is one of the rare cases where a reinstall is the easiest option
[11:00] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic: can't remember seeing that though. But i was half asleep anyway
[11:00] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: from bitter experience: do not do system admin while sleepy
[11:00] <thoreauputic> ;)
[11:01] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic: learnt the hard way, eh?? lol
[11:01] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: indeed
[11:02] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: i was able to bring the machine back from the dead, but it required a degree of Debian-fu ;)
[11:03] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic: so basically if i had apt-get I could restore everything from the net??
[11:03] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: yes, if it was working - for instance you could do sudo apt-get -f install
[11:03] <kubulikidd> ok
[11:03] <thoreauputic> or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:04] <thoreauputic> etc
[11:04] <thoreauputic> but since apt and dpkg have taken a permanent vacation on your machine...
[11:04] <kubulikidd> lol
[11:04] <thoreauputic> you are basically stuffed - to use a highly techmical term
[11:04] <kubulikidd> well....
[11:06] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : will get on with the re-install then
[11:06] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: sounds like a plan :)
[11:07] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic: will let u know how i get on. will drop u a mail
[11:07] <thoreauputic> kubulikidd: I await your communication with interest :)
[11:07] <PentooUser> hello
[11:08] <kubulikidd> thoreauputic : thanks. out ..........
[11:08] <thoreauputic> bye :)
[11:39] <nico8481> hi
[11:41] <ninHertatil> hi all
[11:42] <ninHertatil> can anyone check kriptopolis.org?
[11:56] <rockin_stan> ninHer: up and running
[11:56] <ninHer> oops
[11:56] <ninHer> not port 80
[11:57] <ninHer> i mean the web site
[11:57] <rockin_stan> ninHer: htaccess protected
[11:57] <ninHer> yep
[11:58] <cyberserver> Hi. I was making the package for java-sun and I see it saying "no gcc found" .  Is gcc desirable for java compilation? It does not make sense to me, what do you think about this? Do we have a speed improvement if we use it? Will it create a dependency? I'd prefer not having gcc on my machines, altough I need jre..
[12:01] <thoreauputic> !java
[12:01] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:01] <protocol1> or you can try !easyubuntu
[12:02] <protocol1> !easyubuntu
[12:02] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[12:02] <thoreauputic> cyberserver: gcc is quite handy at times :)
[12:02] <thoreauputic> !info build-essential
[12:02] <ubotu> build-essential: (informational list of build-essential packages), section devel, is optional. Version: 11.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 6 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[12:04] <cyberserver> thoreauputic: I'm following RestrictedFormats wikipage... I'm building a set of machines for public (guest) use where I'd rather have no gcc for security reasons... I have a (similar) separated machine where I can compile needed stuf, package it, and then deploy on the "production" machines..
[12:05] <thoreauputic> cyberserver: I see
[12:06] <cyberserver> thoreauputic: The wiki page says nothing about gcc. I've sucessfully packaged java without it, I was just wondering about the messages about it looking for gcc. Wondering if there was any gain out of it :-p
[12:06] <cyberserver> !javadebs
[12:06] <thoreauputic> cyberserver: I imagine once you have a java package, it should install OK
[12:06] <cyberserver> Lol... ubotu does not answer to its own tip about !javadebs
[12:07] <thoreauputic> try !javadeb
[12:07] <cyberserver> thoreauputic: Thanks for replying!
[12:07] <thoreauputic> singukar
[12:07] <cyberserver> !javadeb
[12:07] <thoreauputic> heh * singular
[12:08] <cyberserver> AH! it replied to me directly! I tought it would reply to the list :-p I had not seem the pvt window
[12:08] <thoreauputic> cyberserver: it does that with long factoids to avoid spamming the channel
[12:09] <thoreauputic> cyberserver: very polite bot ;)
[12:09] <thoreauputic> !good bot
[12:09] <ubotu> thanks thoreauputic :)
[12:09] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:10] <_pip> !good bot
[12:10] <ubotu> thanks _pip :)
[12:11] <_pip> ubotu: you are welcome
[12:11] <ubotu> _pip: I think you lost me on that one
[12:14] <Kev1n> !javadeb
[12:18] <cyberserver> !good bot
[12:18] <ubotu> :)
[12:19] <bismarckam1803> anyone know how to add the extensive server list that is present in fedora's xirc?
[12:29] <uros> hi all - i have somehow turned translucency on - no idea how, because I was fooling around with KDE to test it - it is now impossible to get rid of it - in sys settings/style it is off, but it is still working - please help as my computer is too slow for this
[12:29] <uros> is there a quick way to restore KDE to "factory settings"?
[12:29] <cyberserver> !wiki
[12:30] <jpatrick> uros: restart X
[12:31] <cyberserver> Who should I contact for comments of wiki pages? The wikipage last editor?
[12:32] <uros> jpatrick: even restarted the computer (several times) and it didn't help
[12:32] <n3storm> cyberserver: which wiki?
[12:34] <cyberserver> In RestrictedFormats page, there is a comment about "Selecting the default Java version" which does not seem to aply to everyone...
[12:34] <cyberserver> n3storm: wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats
[12:35] <cyberserver> It's mentioned that we can change the alternatives for jar, javac, javadoc, javap and javaws
[12:36] <cyberserver> and it's not true, at least for the ones that packages the JRE ...  or maybe I skipped a step somewhere... I dont have those alternatives
[12:36] <Terminus> cyberserver: you mean regarding java applets in konqueror?
[12:37] <n3storm> cyberserver: If you are enough sure about that change it your self: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UserPreferences
[12:38] <n3storm> get a login there and make the needed corrections
[12:41] <uros> still translucency problems - can't turn it off. n1 willing to invest a liitle help?
[12:42] <cyberserver> n3storm, Terminus: i would have to try installing the SDK to be 100% sure, I'm thinking that that only applies to people who install the java SDK and not to the ones that installed the JRE. I would prefer to discuss this with the one that wrote this.. maybe it was FredrikWent (its the last editor). How can I find his e-mail?
[12:42] <waylandbill> hello, I run ntpdate from a prompt and it sets my clock to UTC. How do I tell it my timezone?
[12:48] <Terminus> cyberserver: dunno how. just thought i'd ask what you were having problems about coz i had problems with JRE yesterday. it was konqueror not using the defaults you set in /etc/alternatives
[12:51] <n3storm> cyberserver: click on latestchanges button
[12:52] <n3storm> alos click on Information and you will see a history of the document
[12:53] <n3storm> in fact, click everywhere! using wikis is free and fun!
[12:53] <n3storm> ;)
[12:55] <burepe> you are just extending the drive length right?
[12:55] <burepe> ooops
[12:55] <burepe> How do I change file associations in the gui?
[12:56] <Terminus> waylandbill: tzconfig i think
[01:03] <Pupeno> How do I list all the keyboard layouts and their variants ? (I am trying to get pc-dvorak-latin1 to work)
[01:06] <cyberserver> n3storm: yep :-p   But unfortunately I've not been able to reach the person information. I already know it was him that placed that tip, but I found no contact info attached
[01:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi patrick_
[01:07] <n3storm> cyberserver: I see, he didn't left any contact info...
[01:08] <n3storm> cyberserver: don't know
[01:08] <patrick_> Kamping_Kaiser: lost my connection....
[01:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[01:24] <uniq> pupeno: for console? - 'dpkg -L console-data|grep keymaps|more'
[01:25] <Pupeno> uniq: I am more interesting on X, but it seems I'll have to make my own keymap.
[01:26] <uniq> in X it's more complicated. I would start looking at the xkeyboard-config package.
[01:27] <tristanmike> Riddell, wow, I just read your interview on Kubuntu.org and I saw that you have Irn-Bru which is your most popular soft-drink, that's amazing because I'm from Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, Canada and we also have Irn Bru (no hyphen :P) and it is my favorite soft drink, way better than coke or pepsi. I just wonder how similar it is to yours, that's great. Sorry for the offtopic but it blew my mind when I saw it...so that's where that great
[01:27] <tristanmike>  drink comes from, thanx :)
[01:28] <Riddell> tristanmike: Good to know Nova Scotia keeps some of its Scottish heritage :)
[01:28] <Riddell> that's really cool
[01:29] <tristanmike> Riddell, absolutely, actually, we are very proud of our Scottish heritage :)  We take pride in our tartan's =)
[01:30] <Pupeno> what was the name of the program to see the keycodes of keys on X ?
[01:30] <Pupeno> as they are pressed, the XEvents to be more precise.
[01:31] <Riddell> Pupeno: xev
[01:43] <cyberserver> Guys, stupid question: do we use OSS or ALSA? I had the feeling that all 2.6.x used ALSA, but I'm not sure...
[01:44] <Terminus> cyberserver: alsa.
[01:45] <Pupeno> Riddell: thanks.
[01:48] <kersoz> hi people
[01:48] <kersoz> I have a question
[01:48] <jpatrick> fire away
[01:48] <kersoz> I just installed KUBUNTU latest version for AMD64
[01:49] <kersoz> I want to install firefox 1.5
[01:49] <jpatrick> !firefox1.5
[01:49] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:49] <kersoz> but I couldnt so far
[01:50] <kersoz> is that too difficult?
[01:50] <jpatrick> follow the link
[01:50] <kersoz> I looked to page now
[01:50] <kersoz> I am not a good linux user
[01:50] <kersoz> I am novice
[01:50] <kersoz> can I do it of my own?
[01:51] <Nomad411> Hi all.. I'm trying to connect korganizer through ical with the google calendar.  Can't figure it out yet on the korganizer side. anyone doing it?
[01:51] <Nomad411> !ical
[01:51] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Nomad411
[01:53] <Terminus> kersoz: try reading the stuff at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareManagement to be exact. :)
[02:08] <maike-maus> hello. I have a problem by playing a wmv file. does anybody have an idea for resolving this?
[02:09] <mindspin> you have win32 codecs installed?
[02:09] <mindspin> !codecs
[02:09] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[02:39] <Kev1n> !easysource
[02:39] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:42] <xanax`> hello
[02:42] <mister> hello
[02:45] <cromo> guys I finally managed to run cups here
[02:45] <cromo> had to change localhost to <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:46] <cromo> other problem is that I can't access cups configuration from within kdeprint, I had to add printer from cups web interface
[02:46] <cromo> that's my common problem, I never managed to run configuration from kdeprint, it always complains about password or permissions
[02:46] <cromo> dapper here BTW
[02:54] <cromo> k it works
[02:54] <cromo> I mean it doesn't ;)
[03:03] <charlotte> #!lille!
[03:04] <Cha81_nopv> hello
[03:04] <Cha81_nopv> !lag
[03:04] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Cha81_nopv
[03:10] <maike-maus> hi, I'd like to modify the sources.list  -  for this I opened it with a tex editor and tried to paste an other list into it. but the program doesn't allow it... does anyone have an idea?
[03:11] <Terminus> maike-maus: you have to be root to be able to do so.
[03:11] <Terminus> maike-maus: like 'sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list'
[03:12] <Terminus> !root
[03:12] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:13] <shreevatsa> amarok... The MusicBrainz thing isn't working for mp3 files
[03:13] <alfatau> hello, i upgraded from breezy to dapper, and now my bootscreen is blank, while systen boots up, and kde starts. i temporary solved setting "vga=normal" for grub, but, what could be due this behaviour? i would have my 1024x768 shell resolution again...
[03:14] <shreevatsa> It says "The track was not found in the MusicBrainz" database, for *all* mp3 files I have (very quickly; faster than it can connect and find out), and it works for .ogg files
[03:14] <shreevatsa> And I see the message "QObject::connect: Cannot connect QSignal::signal(const QVariant&) to (null)::(null)" in the konsole (where I started Amarok from)
[03:16] <shreevatsa> And I read somewhere on the net this might be caused by having qt compiled on gcc 3.4, or something of that sort
[03:16] <shreevatsa> Actually, I noticed I see that error message even for the .ogg files... so it's something unrelated
[03:16] <shreevatsa> Why doesn't the MusicBrainz feature work with .mp3s?
[03:23] <bpm> hy all
[03:23] <jpatrick> bpm: hi
[03:23] <bpm> can anybody help me
[03:23] <bpm> i do not know how to patch a file
[03:23] <bpm> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=15255374
[03:23] <bpm> i need this patch
[03:24] <bpm> how can i do this?
[03:29] <bpm> please
[03:29] <shreevatsa> bpm: Look at man patch
[03:30] <shreevatsa> bpm: I don't know any more than that, sorry
[03:37] <bpm> hmmm
[03:37] <bpm> is there any synce channel on irc?
[03:40] <davix> how do I play .ape in kubuntu?
[03:41] <bhna> davix: whats *.ape?
[03:41] <davix> it's a new format of music
[03:41] <davix> alot like mp3 but higher quality
[03:41] <davix> also smaller compresion rate
[03:44] <bhna> davix: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mac-port/
[03:45] <davix> thanks i'll look into this
[03:57] <Nookie^> hi! in kcontrol there is something called gtk-styles normaly but i have only installed main kde and now i dont see that section? what should i do to get it there?
[04:06] <kettenschutz> hey there
[04:06] <kettenschutz> ich hab da n kleines problem mit ubuntu
[04:07] <kettenschutz> bin hier auf kompletten neuland mit linux
[04:07] <kettenschutz> wie kann ich mich bers Terminal als ROOT ein- und wieder ausloggen?
[04:07] <kettenschutz> will was verschieben aber der ordner ist fr mich als normaluser gesperrt
[04:07] <xanax`> kettenschutz : and in english ?
[04:08] <kettenschutz> hey xanax, how to logon @ the ubuntu terminal as the root user?
[04:08] <xanax`> just type " su "
[04:09] <kettenschutz> jeah thats to execute one term
[04:09] <kettenschutz> but i want to completely logon as root
[04:09] <kettenschutz> and then to logoff, howto?
[04:09] <kettenschutz> i thin in suse it just was "login"!!?
[04:10] <xwolf-> if you 'su', your shell will turn into root@yourpc:/whatever#
[04:10] <xwolf-> that's root until you 'exit'
[04:10] <kettenschutz> aaaaaaaaah
[04:10] <kettenschutz> ok i try it
[04:11] <kettenschutz> the terminal said "authentification failure"
[04:11] <kettenschutz> bit its the right pw ?! :/
[04:11] <xwolf-> your root one :)
[04:12] <kettenschutz> yeah i typed my rootPW in the console
[04:12] <kettenschutz> im sure that this is my pw
[04:12] <xwolf-> hm, try opening kuser and changing it
[04:13] <MrKubuntuUser> ello.  I'm getting really slow output from lp0... when I output text, it prints a few lines, stops, prints a few more lines, stops, etc.  Anybody know what I could check to get lp0 going at its normal speed?
[04:13] <MrKubuntuUser> I'm running Kubuntu 6.06 Flight 6, up-to-date as of this morning.
[04:14] <davix> how do I check my free hd space?
[04:14] <markrian> davix: df -h
[04:14] <xwolf-> davix 'df -h'
[04:14] <davix> thanks
[04:15] <kettenschutz> someone got an idea?
[04:15] <xwolf-> kettenschutz have you tried changing your pw in kuser?
[04:15] <xanax`> davix : launch KDiskFree
[04:15] <kettenschutz> i can change my root pw?
[04:15] <kettenschutz> howto @ xwolf?
[04:15] <kettenschutz> xwolf--> privat?
[04:15] <xwolf-> kettenschutz alt+f2 -> kuser
[04:15] <markrian> I'm running Kubuntu dapper and I've installed KOffice 1.5 as described at kubuntu.org. Thing is, no app works. When I try to run say kword, I get: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/659552
[04:16] <markrian> As far as I can tell, the file kwordpart.desktop is not installed by any package
[04:16] <xwolf-> kettenschutz edit the root account, just changing its password
[04:16] <markrian> So what am I missing?
[04:17] <xwolf-> isnt kwordpart.desktop just a shortcut?
[04:17] <MrKubuntuUser> Anybody?  Why is my parallel port much slower under Kubuntu than under Win2K?
[04:17] <kettenschutz> yeah great
[04:17] <kettenschutz> works, thanks ppls ::::))))
[04:18] <brandon_> MrKubuntuUser: maybe it's not the port, but the printer driver
[04:18] <markrian> xwolf-: well, sort of, yeah, but it's quite an important one it seems!
[04:18] <kettenschutz> and one other question
[04:18] <kettenschutz> how to extract files via the terminal? cause i need root rights to extract
[04:19] <xwolf-> markrian haha, well, i don't know, never used dapper... try finding the exact launcher, not the shortcut
[04:19] <markrian> MrKubuntuUser: there's probably a way to configure the speed of the parallel port, it might well not be set to the maximum
[04:19] <xwolf-> kettenschutz tar.gz?
[04:19] <MrKubuntuUser> brandon_:  I thought it was CUPS too, but I tried "cat (file) > /dev/lp0" as root and it was also slow
[04:19] <kettenschutz> yep @ xwolf
[04:19] <markrian> xwolf-: no, that's the thing, there is no launcher - no .desktop files have been installed at all
[04:20] <MrKubuntuUser> markrian:  Is that a Kubuntu setting?  I had Win2K on this same machine and my parallel receipt printer flew.  Now it lurches along very slowly.
[04:20] <xwolf-> kettenschutz i'd say 'tar -xzvf file.tar.gz', but you should google it or 'man tar'
[04:21] <kettenschutz> where can i specify the target folder
[04:21] <xwolf-> type 'man tar' in the shell, there's gotta have something there
[04:21] <trappist> or use ark
[04:22] <xwolf-> trappist indeed.
[04:22] <xwolf-> kettenschutz if you want gui, you can run "kdesu konqueror" and you'll be navigating as root
[04:23] <markrian> MrKubuntuUser: it's a linux setting most likely
[04:23] <MrKubuntuUser> markrian:  Any idea where I could find that (or being looking for it)?
[04:23] <markrian> MrKubuntuUser: I don't expect there's a simple GUI to set the parallel port speed...
[04:25] <markrian> MrKubuntuUser: my first instinct is to look for information about the parallel port linux modules lp and parport_pc
[04:25] <markrian> It doesn't sound particularly pleasant
[04:26] <trappist> have a look in /proc/sys/dev/parport/parport0
[04:27] <trappist> could be a dma issue
[04:28] <kettenschutz> ok all worked fine :)
[04:28] <kettenschutz> can u tell me how to install KDE Themes?
[04:28] <MrKubuntuUser> markrian:  is it worth trying to use the parport_pc module (it is a module, right?) instead of lp?
[04:29] <markrian> MrKubuntuUser: parport_pc should already be in use I should think - do "lsmod | grep parport"
[04:29] <markrian> If it comes up then it's already loaded
[04:31] <pct> hi
[04:31] <MrKubuntuUser> markrian:  It listed "parport".  I did modprobe parport_pc and now it lists both parport and parport_pc
[04:36] <kettenschutz> hey, someone knows how to install kde themes?
[04:36] <kettenschutz> i've completed the rules @ the readme file but it wont work
[04:38] <cromo> guys, I know I should ask in ubuntu-xgl and I already did, but the people seem to be dead there
[04:39] <cromo> I don't have gnome-window-decorator here
[04:39] <cromo> and seems that no packages has it
[04:39] <cromo> what should I do?
[04:39] <cromo> anyone got xgl working with kde and newest fglrx?
[04:40] <martinjh99> Allo is there a Dapper version of Koffice1.5 out yet??
[04:41] <markrian> martinjh99: yep
[04:41] <markrian> see kubuntu.org!
[04:41] <martinjh99> :) Just found it thanks!!
[04:42] <markrian> martinjh99: the packages don't work for me though, not sure why
[04:43] <markrian> Well, I know why, they don't seem to be packaged correctly
[04:46] <beefsprocket> the ssl certificate for wiki.kunbutu.org isn't totally kubuntu...
[05:14] <robinl1blah> hey
[05:14] <robinl1blah> how to set the DPI?
[05:16] <robinl1blah> how to set the DPI?
[05:17] <bsr> hi there...I've got some questions regarding buying a new graphic card. My current ATI 9600 XT has some issues with the memory.. any advice on what to bu.. nvidia or ATI ( I haven't ahd any problems yet with my ATI) ?
[05:18] <davix> Waaaaaaaaaalt
[05:18] <robinl1blah> how to set the DPI? need fast answer.
[05:19] <kettenschutz> hey, one question again :)
[05:20] <kettenschutz> how to roll out the cdrom drives? they wont react if i press the button
[05:20] <bhna> davix: do you know google?
[05:20] <robinl1blah> ....
[05:20] <bhna> davix: or the ubuntu wiki?
[05:20] <robinl1blah> why am i being ignored everywhere?!
[05:21] <bhna> robinl1blah: try google or ubuntu-wiki
[05:21] <beefsprocket> robinl1blah: the dpi of what?
[05:21] <robinl1blah> bhna: already did
[05:21] <robinl1blah> beefsprocket: X
[05:22] <beefsprocket> you mean your screen resolution or fonts?
[05:22] <robinl1blah> screen resolution
[05:22] <robinl1blah> like, wtf these fonts are killing me they are way too big
[05:22] <beefsprocket> which res are you trying to use then?
[05:22] <robinl1blah> but the resolution is good. 1280x1024
[05:22] <robinl1blah> but the fonts are at 12 at default..
[05:22] <robinl1blah> well.. it looks awful
[05:22] <robinl1blah> want a screenshot?
[05:23] <davix> bhna, yes, how is it related to walt?
[05:23] <beefsprocket> ok, so make them 11 or 10 -- i use 1600x1200 and changed all the fonts to 10
[05:23] <beefsprocket> looks great
[05:23] <robinl1blah> no, changing the dpi is better.
[05:23] <robinl1blah> do you even know what dpi is? >_<
[05:24] <beefsprocket> yes robinl1blah I do, I change the dpi for firefox and thunderbird quite frequently
[05:24] <robinl1blah> Dots per inch; standard of measurement for the resolution of images. The higher the DPI, the higher the resolution.
[05:24] <robinl1blah> so I need 96 dpi
[05:24] <robinl1blah> on a 1280x1024 resolution
[05:24] <robinl1blah> :{
[05:25] <mindspin> its somewehere in system settings I guess
[05:25] <mindspin> appearance maybe?
[05:25] <bhna> robinl1blah: http://tlug.up.ac.za/wiki/index.php/Xorg_Qt_GTK_fonts
[05:25] <robinl1blah> yay! ^^
[05:26] <kettenschutz> hey, please guys, try to help eh!?
[05:27] <bhna> robinl1blah: google is your friend ;-)
[05:27] <beefsprocket> so is ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=124446&highlight=kubuntu+96dpi
[05:27] <mindspin> !ubotu tell kettenschutz about ask
[05:28] <kettenschutz> mindspin, ive asked a few lines be4^^
 hey, one question again :)
[05:28] <kettenschutz> [17:20]  <kettenschutz> how to roll out the cdrom drives? they wont react if i press the button
[05:28] <mindspin> ic
[05:28] <DeadS0ul> kettenschutz: umount the cd
[05:28] <DeadS0ul> that should wrok
[05:29] <kettenschutz> yay howto do that?
[05:29] <DeadS0ul> umount /dev/cdrom
[05:29] <kettenschutz> i neveever got the option unmount if i rightclicked the cd icon
[05:29] <DeadS0ul> oh
[05:29] <MacAnthony> do you get an eject option?
[05:30] <kettenschutz> nope, thats the problem
[05:30] <DeadS0ul> open a console and type mount
[05:30] <mindspin> I know that issue is coming up randomly at my system but sudo umount /dev/cdrom should do
[05:30] <DeadS0ul> it'll list all the mounted paritions, see if it says /dev/cdrom or /media/cdrom
[05:31] <DeadS0ul> mindspin: I guess I'll find out soon enough, gonna install kubuntu on here
[05:31] <kettenschutz> yay works
[05:31] <kettenschutz> :)
[05:31] <kettenschutz> thanks guys
[05:31] <DeadS0ul> np
[05:32] <davix> is there all seeing eye replacment for kubuntu?
[05:32] <kettenschutz> ehm, another "problem", u know how to install KDE themes? i tried everthing @ the install notes but it wont work
[05:33] <DeadS0ul> what have you tried?
[05:34] <kettenschutz> but another thing shortly, my ark program wont work fine, it wont extract files. there are another extract programm for ubuntu?
[05:34] <DeadS0ul> usually you have to have tar/zip/unrar installed for those to work properly
[05:35] <kettenschutz> can i install those via synaptic?
[05:35] <DeadS0ul> yeap
[05:35] <DeadS0ul> or kpackage
[05:35] <_master> did azures have a search tool ?
[05:35] <kettenschutz> only got adept and syn...
[05:35] <_robin> i love kde
[05:35] <_robin> xD
[05:35] <DeadS0ul> I usually use command line to install my packages, it's jsut two commands
[05:36] <DeadS0ul> apt-cache search <keyword> for finding what I want, apt-get install <package> to install
[05:36] <kettenschutz> the thing is the following: i've downloaded a theme, and its packed with GZIP
[05:36] <_robin> the update long takie
[05:36] <_robin> :|
[05:37] <kettenschutz> but i cant extract the theme, ARK doesnt do something
[05:37] <DeadS0ul> gzip...
[05:37] <kettenschutz> oh, no .. tar.bz2
[05:38] <DeadS0ul> install bzip
[05:38] <kettenschutz> where to find?
[05:38] <DeadS0ul> sudo apt-get install bzip2 I think
[05:38] <davix> is there all seeing eye replacment for kubuntu?
[05:38] <kettenschutz> ah okay i try
[05:38] <DeadS0ul> what's an all seeing eye?
[05:38] <davix> game servers lister
[05:38] <DeadS0ul> oh, I dunno bout those
[05:38] <davix> "All Seeing Eye" (ASE)
[05:39] <kettenschutz> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:39] <DeadS0ul> sudo apt-get install bzip2
[05:39] <davix> kettenschutz, sudo mate or check if it's runing
[05:40] <kettenschutz> are there a taskmanager or something like that in ubuntu?
[05:40] <DeadS0ul> yeap
[05:40] <DeadS0ul> hit ctrl+esc
[05:40] <kettenschutz> so i can check if ark or something is running
[05:40] <kettenschutz> ok ark is running but cant be killed
[05:41] <DeadS0ul> it's call ksystemguard
[05:41] <kettenschutz> i got ksysguard and ksysguardd
[05:42] <DeadS0ul> ksystemguard
[05:42] <kettenschutz> nope
[05:42] <DeadS0ul> tried ctrl+esc?
[05:42] <kettenschutz> does ubuntu got a firewall?
[05:42] <kettenschutz> yay i tried ctrl and esc
[05:43] <kettenschutz> ah bzip instal works yet, but its allready installed
[05:43] <DeadS0ul> the firewall is part of the linux kernel, you can use a program call kmyfirewall to configure it
[05:44] <kettenschutz> ok cool
[05:44] <DeadS0ul> can't unzip the bzip file yet?
[05:44] <kettenschutz> nope
[05:44] <DeadS0ul> crap
[05:45] <DeadS0ul> try closing and opening ark again
[05:45] <kettenschutz> ark cant be closed
[05:45] <DeadS0ul> wha
[05:45] <DeadS0ul> hit ctrl+alt+esc
[05:45] <DeadS0ul> and then click on ark
[05:45] <DeadS0ul> it'll kill it
[05:55] <larkin> Hello, I am in need of assistance in installing GCC, can anybody step me through the process?
[05:56] <zblach> quick question. how can I access my existing network windows shares?
[05:57] <larkin> use the samba client
[05:57] <zblach> larkin: yeah, but how to configure it in kde 3.5.1?
[05:59] <larkin> good question
[05:59] <larkin> zblach, do you know how to install GCC?
[06:05] <Crashoveride> hey all, Im havig trouble with my kubuntu I wasnt aware it had any firewalls but it wont let port 22 out can someone help me? I dont know how.
[06:06] <_robin> how to get the newest KDE?
[06:06] <ccc_> _robin: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php
[06:06] <jpatrick> !kde352
[06:06] <ubotu> jpatrick: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:07] <Crashoveride> hey all, Im havig trouble with my kubuntu I wasnt aware it had any firewalls but it wont let port 22 out can someone help me? I dont know how.
[06:07] <_robin> yay ^^
[06:08] <_robin> YAY! ^^
[06:09] <Crashoveride> lol
[06:09] <Crashoveride> _robin: happy much?
[06:09] <Crashoveride> anyone know how to unblock port 22 in kubuntu?
[06:10] <beefsprocket> Crashoveride: it shouldn't be blocked I don't think
[06:10] <beefsprocket> Crashoveride: if its a firewall issue, try kmyfirewall
[06:11] <nico8481> Crashoveride: are you sure the ssh daemon is running? :-)
[06:11] <Crashoveride> um not sure
[06:11] <beefsprocket> Crashoveride: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start will tell you
[06:12] <_robin> hey
[06:12] <_robin> he following packages have been kept back:
[06:12] <_robin>   akregator ark artsbuilder kaddressbook kamera kappfinder karm kate
[06:12] <_robin> and the list goes on
[06:12] <_robin> all kde apps
[06:12] <_robin> anyone know whats wrong?
[06:12] <Crashoveride> * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail]
[06:12] <Crashoveride> * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail]
[06:12] <Crashoveride> oops osrry
[06:12] <_robin> xD
[06:13] <nico8481> _robin: maybe there are no new versions of them?
[06:14] <Crashoveride> nico8481: any ideas? this is what is says "* Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] "
[06:15] <nico8481> Crashoveride: nope... try running it from the command line to see if it says more things...
[06:15] <nico8481> sshd
[06:15] <_robin> err
[06:15] <_robin> !kde35
[06:15] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _robin
[06:15] <_robin> !kde352
[06:15] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, _robin
[06:15] <apokryphos> !kde 3.5.2
[06:15] <ubotu> apokryphos: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:15] <_robin> i installed kde 3.5.2 and..
[06:15] <apokryphos> !listvalues kde
[06:15] <_robin> .... about dialogs still say kde 4.3. something
[06:15] <_robin> also,
[06:15] <apokryphos> !kde3.5.2
[06:15] <_robin> The following packages have been kept back:
[06:15] <_robin>   akregator ark artsbuilder kaddressbook kamera kappfinder karm kate
[06:15] <ubotu> kde3.5.2 is, like, totally, to upgrade to KDE3.5.2, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-352.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[06:15] <_robin> for all packages
[06:17] <_robin> so what's wrong?
[06:17] <zblach> can one configure samba through the system settings in 3.5.1?
[06:18] <_robin> zblach: #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:18] <_robin> anyone?
[06:19] <zblach> yeah, samba in kubuntu
[06:19] <zblach> not in the system settings this time?
[06:19] <_robin> zblach: #kubuntu-offtopic ._.
[06:19] <zblach> 'sdead
[06:19] <_robin> this too
[06:20] <_robin> i need help with this
[06:20] <_robin> i messed up my installation i think
[06:20] <zblach> what's 'this'?
[06:20] <_robin> installed the new KDE
[06:20] <_robin> but the dialogs still say i got the old one
[06:20] <zblach> uh oh
[06:20] <_robin> also, if i do a dist-upgrade:
[06:20] <_robin> The following packages have been kept back:
[06:20] <zblach> try again. i had that problem once
[06:20] <_robin> I get that for all packages
[06:20] <zblach> :S
[06:20] <_robin> help! :(
[06:20] <zblach> maybe try a -f?
[06:20] <_robin> it refuses to
[06:20] <_robin> >_<
[06:21] <zblach> you may have borked it
[06:21] <_robin> borked?
[06:21] <_robin> how?
[06:21] <zblach> did you abort/fail in mid-upgrade?
[06:21] <_robin> No
[06:21] <_robin> i shut it down AFTER the upgrade
[06:21] <_robin> and that was on the same commandline
[06:22] <_robin> maybe it failed though
[06:22] <_robin> also, it uninstalled kubuntu-desktop
[06:23] <_robin> and when i try to install kubuntu-desktop
[06:23] <_robin> it says:
[06:23] <_robin> ome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[06:23] <_robin> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[06:23] <_robin> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[06:23] <_robin> or been moved out of Incoming.
[06:23] <_robin> and some more
[06:23] <zblach> ruh-roh
[06:23] <_robin> i just installed kubuntu! wtf is wrong with this thing?
[06:23] <zblach> pack your things, you may need a fresh install
[06:24] <_robin> no!
[06:24] <_robin> you don't mean that! :(
[06:24] <_robin> i waited an hour for that
[06:24] <zblach> it's a fix-all process
[06:24] <_robin> and don't have much time left
[06:24] <_robin> wtf happened here?
[06:24] <zblach> apt-cache clear?
[06:25] <zblach> nvm
[06:25] <zblach> i don't kow
[06:27] <cromo> guys? anyone using subpixel rendering with dapper?
[06:27] <cromo> can you please confirm that gtk+ apps are not displaying fonts correctly? (i.e. without subpixel rendering)
[06:28] <cromo> ok I can see it already
[06:28] <cromo> no, sorry, taht's something else
[06:32] <gene> hello
[06:33] <gene> Q re hp notebook w/turion 64 in it
[06:33] <gene> I burnt the amd64 dvd of 5.10, and tried to boot but failed early
[06:34] <gene> its stuck at "ACPI: Subsystem Revision 20050729
[06:36] <gene> Humm, with 50+ users logged in, no traffic?  Unbelieveable...
[06:37] <_robin>  hey, since it is dead in #kubuntu, i'll ask it here. i tried to install KDE 3.5.2, and after that i still have the old KDE, and when i tried dist-upgrade, it said that all KDE packages were held back, and when i tried reinstalling kubuntu-desktop (yes, it was uninstalled), it said some message about a serious problem. so i just installed kubuntu, and now i have come across a bug? wtf is this shit?
[06:40] <beefsprocket> _robin: , umm, this is #kubuntu?
[06:40] <_robin> yes but i posted that in ubuntu :p
[06:40] <beefsprocket> ah
[06:40] <beefsprocket> well, what's going on?
[06:40] <_robin> read the message
[06:40] <_robin> then read http://pastebin.com/659806
[06:40] <_robin> then you get why i am so frustrated
[06:42] <beefsprocket> ok, try sudo apt-get -f install first
[06:42] <beefsprocket> see if that clears anything out
[06:43] <_robin> obin@Foomatic:~$ sudo apt-get -f install
[06:43] <_robin> Reading package lists... Done
[06:43] <_robin> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:43] <_robin> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 68 not upgraded.
[06:43] <_robin> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[06:43] <Seantater> have you done a apt-get update?
[06:43] <gene> By golly, traffic
[06:43] <_robin> yes
[06:43] <bhna> _robin: apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:43] <_robin> bhna: read the pastebin entry
[06:43] <beefsprocket> ok, next, kubuntu-desktop will not grab from the 3.5.2 repo
[06:43] <gene> anybody know anything about the 64 bit version here?
[06:43] <beefsprocket> so that's why it says they are held back
[06:43] <beefsprocket> gene: yes
[06:43] <beefsprocket> I use it
[06:44] <Seantater> try doing just upgarde instead of dist-upgarde
[06:44] <_robin> but still, the about dialogs say i'm using the old KDE
[06:44] <Otherland> hi there... is there a way to search available 'packages' in kubuntu/ubuntu ..like you can in gentoo ?
[06:44] <_robin> and i hate the old KDE
[06:44] <gene> I'm stuck at the disk in the drive stage, acpi freeze, no cli opts stop it
[06:44] <_robin> and i love the new KDE
[06:44] <Seantater> otherland: apt-cache
[06:44] <beefsprocket> gene: I had that problem too
[06:45] <Seantater> _robin, can you paste-bin your sources.list
[06:45] <gene> on an hp pavilion, turiion amd64
[06:45] <_robin> sure
[06:45] <beefsprocket> gene: what I did was install a minimal hoary server, then upgrade to breezy and kubuntu-desktop
[06:45] <Otherland> Seantater: thanks :-)
[06:45] <gene> in i386 mode?
[06:45] <beefsprocket> no, in amd64
[06:45] <_robin> http://pastebin.com/659826
[06:46] <gene> I don't understand why the pci=noacpi doesn't effect it
[06:46] <beefsprocket> i nearly gave up with ubuntu because of that problem
[06:46] <beefsprocket> _robin: sources look fine
[06:47] <_robin> i just installed kubuntu and i haven't got much time
[06:47] <Seantater> robin: comment out the first line, concerning the cdrom
[06:47] <gene> well, I have other probs, mainly wth hp's attitude, so I guess I'll try an fc5 disk next
[06:47] <beefsprocket> _robin: sudo apt-get install kdebase
[06:47] <Seantater> robin: then fo the update/upgrand stuff
[06:47] <beefsprocket> see what that outputs?
[06:48] <Seantater> _robin: comment out the first line, concerning the cdrom
[06:48] <Otherland> ok..I think I'm changing hair color..to blond... I thought I should write the following to search for midnight commander : sudo apt-cache search midnight
[06:48] <Otherland> but it just gives me this : konsole - X terminal emulator for KDE
[06:48] <Seantater> otherland: are you typing this _into_ konsole?
[06:49] <Seantater> otherland: BTW: sudo is unnecessary
[06:49] <_robin> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:49] <_robin>   kdebase: Depends: kappfinder (>= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu0breezy1) but 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu6 is to be installed
[06:49] <_robin>            Depends: kate (>= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu0breezy1) but 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu6 is to be installed
[06:49] <_robin>            Depends: kcontrol (>= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu0breezy1) but 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu6 is to be installed
[06:49] <_robin> and so on
[06:49] <Otherland> Seantater: yes I am....
[06:49] <_robin> GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR i'm about to kill my computer
[06:50] <_robin> and #ubuntu for ignoring me completely >_>
[06:50] <_robin> i spent half an hour there
[06:50] <Seantater> _robin: try enabling "universe"
[06:50] <_robin> ... you know
[06:50] <_robin> i can be fairly dumb
[06:50] <_robin> forgetting to enable the universe
[06:50] <_robin> GAH! >_<
[06:50] <bhna> Otherland: you need universe
[06:50] <Otherland> bhna: .. ah ok thanks...
[06:51] <Seantater> _robin Did, it work?
[06:51] <bhna> mc - midnight commander - a powerful file manager
[06:51] <_robin> it's updating now (packages repository)
[06:51] <_robin> i hope it'll work
[06:51] <Seantater> Good!
[06:51] <bhna> mc - midnight commander - a powerful file manager
[06:51] <Seantater> It ususally doeas
[06:51] <Seantater> bhna: what about it?
[06:52] <bhna> Seantater: sorry;-)
[06:53] <_robin> YAY!
[06:53] <_robin> IT WORKS!
[06:53] <_robin> ^_^
[06:53] <Otherland> btw..iknow this isn't general linux/hardware channel..but... is PCI-express well supported under linux ?
[06:53] <Seantater> _robin: do you like KDE 3.5.2?
[06:54] <Seantater> Otherland: I;d think
[06:54] <Otherland> Seantater and bhna : thanks it works now (after apt-get update of cause) :-)
[06:55] <Seantater> Otherland: I really don't know
[06:55] <_robin> Seantater: yes i do
[06:55] <_robin> Seantater: on arch i discovered it was much faster and less buggy than the previous kde so i fell in love with it
[06:55] <_robin> Seantater: made me switch to kubuntu xD
[06:55] <Seantater> _robin: My favorite feature is Konq's adblock
[06:55] <_robin> what about firefox?
[06:56] <_robin> or opera?
[06:56] <Seantater> _robin: I use firefox sparingly
[06:56] <Seantater> _robin: never used opera
[06:56] <Otherland> Seantater: thanks anyways... :-)
[06:56] <_robin> lol makes me think of oprah
[06:56] <_robin> did you know in the netherlands there's a magazine named SPAM?
[06:56] <Seantater> _robin: Isn;t oprah the one with ads in the top-right
[06:57] <Seantater> _robin: not opran, opera
[06:57] <Seantater> _robin: now you got _me_ mixed up
[06:57] <_robin> etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[06:57] <Seantater> robin: etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, what about it?
[06:57] <_robin> had to store that variable
[06:58] <_robin> since it was gonna overwrite it
[06:58] <_robin> :p
[06:58] <_robin> brb, booting into kde 3.5.2
[06:58] <ccc_> Seantater: no ads, but it had them.
[06:58] <Seantater> ccc_: Thanks
[06:59] <cromo> ok guys, I foung that libcairo2 from xgl repository breaks subpixel rendering for kde apps
[07:00] <Seantater> robin: Enjoying kde?
[07:00] <robin> Seantater: Yeah, but kmail is missing
[07:01] <Seantater> robin: was it uninstalled?
[07:01] <robin> i think so
[07:01] <robin> if i try to install it i get an older version of the lib
[07:01] <robin> libmimesomething
[07:01] <robin> ;O
[07:08] <Otherland> ok..another question..is there a guide on how to compile your own kernel under ubuntu/kubuntu (.. I know how to compile a kernel in general)
[07:11] <Cin> http://rtfs.ath.cx/pub/gtk-qt-firefox-thing.png -- Anyone else noticed this?
[07:15] <mustafu> Does anyone know of a small, lightweight solution for burning ISO images?  My windows installation is severely hosed, and I want to replace it with Kubuntu, but I must burn first ;)
[07:17] <patrick_> Cin: yes
[07:18] <Cin> patrick_, any idea what causes it?
[07:18] <jpatrick> Cin: err, wait, what are you talking about?
[07:19] <beefsprocket> mustafu: can you use alcohol?
[07:19] <Cin> The border on the left of the scrollbar stays where it is when you scroll.
[07:19] <laszlok> Cin: are you talking about that line on the scroll bar?
[07:19] <Cin> Yah.
[07:19] <Cin> It only happens on Firefox as far as I know.
[07:20] <beefsprocket> mustafu: also, try http://sourceforge.net/projects/bwgburn
[07:20] <laszlok> Cin: its a bug in the gtk-qt-engine thing
[07:21] <mustafu> beef: thanks
[07:21] <Cin> laszlok, you know if it's being looked into by the devs.?
[07:21] <beefsprocket> enjoy
[07:21] <mustafu> I get error 500 when trying that :/
[07:21] <Cin> Mmmm. Beef.
[07:21] <mustafu> heh
[07:22] <laszlok> Cin: i saw an option once in the config of the gtk qt engine to fix that problem
[07:22] <laszlok> maybe the new firefox messed it up
[07:23] <Parkotron> Kate question: Does anyone know how to disable the grey hatching on wordwrapped lines as shown in this screenshot? http://kate.kde.org/images/kate_01.png
[07:23] <Cin> Oh reet.
[07:25] <laszlok> Parkotron: disable wrap
[07:25] <mustafu> I can't install most programs because the Windows Installer service is hosed :/
[07:28] <Cin> mustafu, can you extract the ISO to a folder and use Windows CD burning to burn that to disc?
[07:28] <Cin> Oh.
[07:29] <jpatrick> he left
[07:29] <Armagguedes> hello
[07:29] <Armagguedes> anyone here on Dapper and Firefox <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:30] <Parkotron> laszlok: I want the wrap, just not the big ugly markers. Thanks anyway, I guess it's just not an option.
[07:30] <Armagguedes> i'm trying to update to <IP_ADDRESS>, but the "update firefox" in the ehlp menu is greyed ot
[07:30] <Armagguedes> out
[07:30] <Armagguedes> and sudo firefox on the console does nothing
[07:31] <laszlok> Parkotron: no its not, its to let you know that you are not looking at a new line
[07:31] <jpatrick> Cin: if he comes back, give him this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Installation/FromWindows
[07:32] <jpatrick> right, X restart now...
[07:32] <Cin> Will do.
[07:35] <Armagguedes> btw does anyone here on dapper have a problem with the taskbar? i have it on "hide immediatly when cursor leaves it" and occasionally that thing disappears tottally
[07:36] <Armagguedes> i have to get into kcontrol, and change some setting and apply it
[07:36] <Armagguedes> in order to ressuscitate the taskbar
[07:36] <Armagguedes> ideas?
[07:37] <laszlok> Armagguedes: i think you are supposed wait for firefox to update through apt, so it doesnt break stuff
[07:37] <Armagguedes> hm
[07:37] <Armagguedes> ok
[07:37] <Armagguedes> ill wait a few days then
[07:38] <Armagguedes> i was not looking forward to uninstalling kubuntu's firefox and reinstall it on the side
[07:40] <Armagguedes> anyone here using Thunderbird, iptables (firewall) and gmail?
[07:46] <davix> what good games can I play in kubuntu besides enemy territory which is getting real old?
[07:46] <Tm_T> davix: freeciv
[07:46] <Armagguedes> wesnoth
[07:46] <Tm_T> or wesnoth
[07:46] <Tm_T> Armagguedes: you little!
[07:46] <davix> i've tried wesnoth, it's quite amusing, not for the long run though
[07:47] <MacAnthony> I think americas army works in linux too
[07:47] <davix> yeah, it got old as well :P
[07:47] <davix> even the new version
[07:47] <MacAnthony> picky
[07:47] <MacAnthony> :)
[07:47] <davix> i know, sorry.
[07:47] <Tm_T> define old
[07:47] <davix> I don't know. i dont mind even buying games
[07:48] <Tm_T> well
[07:48] <davix> just as long as they are cool to play
[07:48] <davix> I heard something about quake 3 being released...
[07:48] <Tm_T> davix: then supertux!
[07:48] <Tm_T> it's fun ;)
[07:49] <Otherland> is there a 'package' for the macromedia flash player, or should I download it mysql and install it ?
[07:49] <MacAnthony> mysql?
[07:49] <MacAnthony> what does mysql have to do with flash?
[07:50] <Otherland> MacAnthony: ups.. typo..I mean myself
[07:50] <MacAnthony> lol, ok
[07:50] <MacAnthony> makes more sence
[07:51] <yellowdart> Otherland: flashplayer-mozilla
[07:51] <Otherland> yellowdart: thanks :-)
[07:53] <yellowdart> Otherland: remember that you can always 'apt-cache search packagename' if you're not sure if it's there :)
[07:53] <Armagguedes> quake 4 and dooom3
[07:53] <Tm_T> there's always nethack or mud
[07:58] <davix> is there a teamspeak client package or must I compile one myself?
[08:00] <MarineBoy> is there any Screen Shots of Kubuntu out?
[08:02] <Otherland> yellowdart: I tried but it didn't show up..and infact I don't think it's there at all... btw I'm using dapper flight 6
[08:03] <beefsprocket> MarineBoy: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=608&slide=1&title=kubuntu+6.06+flight+6+screenshots
[08:24] <davix> kubuntu is just wrong.
[08:24] <davix> wtf is up with it's sound management,
[08:24] <davix> It can't handle full duplex and it can't manage two sources at once
[08:24] <davix> this shit was solved in ubuntu ages ago
[08:25] <crimsun> um...
[08:26] <crimsun> you do realise that ubuntu and kubuntu use the same infrastructure, don't you?
[08:26] <crimsun> granted, the tools for managing multiple sound devices is a bit less intuitive in kubuntu, but the guts are identical
[08:29] <davix> yes, they are both based on the same ifrastructure
[08:29] <yellowdart> Otherland: (sorry about the delay...was planting my lawn) ...you have to have universe repositories enabled
[08:29] <davix> but the development of kubuntu in the desktop aspect is not by far as good
[08:30] <yellowdart> Otherland: then apt-get update.. apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[08:35] <heno> Installing kubuntu-desktop applied a KDE theme to gnome. What's the easiest way to revert that?
[08:35] <ohzie> What's a good text editor? I need something with highlighting for html/php and preferably MySQL as well. =P
[08:36] <heno> Several themes are affected, including Human.
[08:37] <yellowdart> ohzie: quanta is good (apt-get install kdewebdev) ...it supports projects and stuff like that too
[08:37] <yellowdart> ohzie: probably the closest thing to dreamweaver for kde
[08:38] <ohzie> Thanks.
[08:38] <Search4Lancer> *sigh* I still can't get sound to work.... or maybe it's amaroK that isn't working, it flashes through a 5 second clip in a split second
[08:38] <ohzie> Have you tried dreamweaver with wine? That's my preferred option. :X
[08:39] <crimsun> Search4Lancer: does ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' work?
[08:39] <yellowdart> ohzie: nah...i just use dreamweaver on my mac when i want to use it...i like quanta for hammering out code
[08:40] <ohzie> Ahh.
[08:40] <trappist> ohzie: I use vim.  great syntax hilighting.
[08:40] <Armagguedes> anyone here using Thunderbird, iptables (firewall) and gmail?
[08:40] <ohzie> trappist: =P Like the highlighting too much.
[08:40] <Search4Lancer> crimsun: nope.
[08:40] <yellowdart> trappist: emacs is great for that too ;)
[08:40] <trappist> ohzie: too much for what?
[08:41] <trappist> yellowdart: yeah emacs is a nice operating system, but I prefer linux
[08:41] <crimsun> Search4Lancer: pastebin the following: ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0''
[08:41] <yellowdart> trappist: touche :)
[08:41] <ohzie> trappist: Too much to not be able to highlight and cut/paste things.
[08:41] <yellowdart> ohzie: you can cut/copy/paste in vim
[08:42] <trappist> ohzie: vim has amazing hilight and cut&paste features
[08:42] <yellowdart> dont even need a mouse either
[08:42] <ohzie> =O
[08:42] <ohzie> I may have to try this.
[08:42] <Search4Lancer> crimun: okay, done that, now what? startup.wav still doesn't play
[08:42] <crimsun> Search4Lancer: well, tell me the url
[08:42] <trappist> heh
[08:43] <trappist> ohzie: if you must have a gui, try gvim
[08:43] <yellowdart> ohzie: once you use hotkeys in emacs (or shortcuts in vim)...your mouse almost gets in the way :)
[08:43] <crimsun> trappist: thomas and I will coordinate altering alsaconf; it'll probably reappear in the next a-u upload
[08:43] <trappist> crimsun: WOOHOO!
[08:43] <Search4Lancer> crimsun: take your pick man, nothing works!   http://sounds.wavcentral.com/televis/southpark/birthday_song.mp3    <--- was just finding something for testing, mind you
[08:43] <trappist> crimsun: I was considering a ruby rewrite
[08:43] <ohzie> Yeah, I just got so used to dragging and dropping EVERYTHING in dreamweaver. :X
[08:44] <ohzie> I was trying nvu, but it adds things I don't need or want to my files.
[08:44] <trappist> Search4Lancer: what crimsun told you to do will only produce output, not try to fix anything.  he wants to know what it said.
[08:44] <crimsun> Search4Lancer: aplay only accepts wav
[08:44] <ohzie> For instead, I write a php include file and it puts in all of my basic html meta/body tags for good measure./
[08:44] <ohzie> Just to piss me off.
[08:44] <ohzie> lol
[08:44] <yellowdart> hehe
[08:44] <trappist> ohzie: sounds like frontpage
[08:45] <Search4Lancer> well it didn't say anything, and crimsun, I wasn't trying to play that with aplay, I was trying to play it with amaroK and Kaffiene
[08:45] <Search4Lancer> both of them dart through the 5 seconds in a split second without doing a thing
[08:46] <crimsun> Search4Lancer: I'm attempting to assist you in troubleshooting
[08:46] <crimsun> Search4Lancer: are you saying that ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer -c0'' returned nothing?