[04:21] <ahuman01> bddebian, apparently wordnet is on the net http://wordnet.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn
[04:22] <bddebian> ahuman01: There are several database options that it can use
[04:22] <drew> crimsun, should I be using alsamixer?
[04:22] <bddebian> eno__: Try Slackware. ;-)
[04:22] <goldfish> eno__: gentoo is cool
[04:23] <zenlunatic> drew it looks like the screen saver daemon wasn't running
[04:23] <eno__> I have tried Knoppix, Arklinux, Blag, Xandros and Debian (but I didn't know any command line so I didn't do anything in Debian)
[04:23] <parkbench> hm, i'll condense my question...can anyone hyelp with wireless setup on ubuntu?
[04:23] <drew> zenlunatic, what?
[04:23] <zenlunatic> drew i guess your forgot. nm.
[04:23] <sinferno> crimsun, where do i enable that plugin...
[04:23] <drew> zenlunatic, no wait come back!
[04:23] <benplaut> parkbench: what kind of card do you have?
[04:23] <eno__> will it be hard to install them on my drive without removing ubuntu?
[04:23] <drew> zenlunatic, what did you do?
[04:23] <zenlunatic> drew: i restart screen saver daemon
[04:23] <drew> zenlunatic, how?
[04:24] <benplaut> killall xscreensaver
[04:24] <benplaut> and then
[04:24] <drew> crimsun, how can I get this thing to stop stuttering? I'll work on all speakers later.
[04:24] <benplaut> xscreensaver
[04:24] <benplaut> i think
[04:24] <zenlunatic> drew: i went into the screen saver propertives and it said "the daemon is not running, start it now" and i said yes
[04:24] <crimsun> sinferno: it's not a plugin, it's an alsa device.
[04:24] <kbrooks> huh
[04:24] <drew> zenlunatic, and that helped you w/ surround sound?
[04:24] <bddebian> goldfish: You stumped me on that one
[04:24] <kbrooks> md5 mismatch
[04:25] <kbrooks> wtf
[04:25] <parkbench> benplaut: i don't know, i've been trying to determine that, to match with one of the lists
[04:25] <goldfish> bddebian: :)
[04:25] <crimsun> drew: use newer drivers (or) use a better sound card (or) use the oss output plugin
[04:25] <goldfish> bddebian: i got a couple of suggestions.
[04:25] <bddebian> parkbench: What is the problem with the wireless?
[04:25] <drew> crimsun, ok thanks.
[04:25] <reka> eno__: two things you'll have to work out [1]  partitioning [2]  possible bootloader issues
[04:25] <goldfish> #bash woke up
[04:25] <kbrooks> *.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[04:25] <eno__> cause I have Grub... can I just repartition and it will work?  I don't want to lose my settings in ubuntu
[04:25] <benplaut> parkbench: what kind of computer?
[04:25] <drew> crimsun, but can oss do surround sound?
[04:25] <parkbench> bddebian: err, i could paste again, but i wrote a really long paragraph  if you scroll up
[04:25] <kbrooks> o
[04:25] <sinferno> crimsun, oh well how do i enable it then or whatever in alsa config?
[04:25] <zenlunatic> drew: who said anything about surround sound?
[04:25] <kbrooks> i'd like to get rid of that message
[04:25] <drew> zenlunatic, I mean 5 speakers
[04:25] <sinferno> crimsun, i been searching google but i cant find out how to do it
[04:25] <drew> zenlunatic, not surround.
[04:26] <bddebian> parkbench: It didn't all paste in.  Hence why no one answered I think
[04:26] <kbrooks> and let it install directly
[04:26] <zenlunatic> drew: i said nothing about speakers
[04:26] <parkbench> bddebian: oh! darn. err, should i condense then?
[04:26] <crimsun> sinferno: you want to use it through alsa natively?
[04:26] <drew> zenlunatic, I'm sorry, I don't remember you. waht was your problem?
[04:26] <bddebian> parkbench: Please
[04:26] <cyphase> hey everyone
[04:26] <zenlunatic> drew: just forget it heh
[04:26] <sinferno> crimsun, as long as it works
[04:26] <bddebian> Hello cyphase
[04:26] <drew> zenlunatic, haha, I remember now
[04:26] <sinferno> crimsun, i dont really care
[04:26] <Co_B> Hi..............
[04:26] <crimsun> sinferno: then read alsa.opensrc.org about asoundrc and plug:surround40
[04:27] <sinferno> crimsun, ok thanks
[04:27] <parkbench> well ive been trying to fix this all day....i have a wusb 12v1.1 802.11b wireless adapter
[04:27] <parkbench> following the guide i got further and further
[04:27] <drew> crimsun, what plug do I use? adn can I use oss w/ it?
[04:27] <Co_B> Asl pls
[04:27] <parkbench> i was able to install the ndiswrapper after finally opening synaptic etc
[04:27] <crimsun> drew: the oss output plugin for xmms (for xmms, of course).
[04:27] <jasoncohen> hmm- nautilus says i have 695 MB used in /home and df -h says i have 1GB
[04:27] <jasoncohen> what could account for the discrepency?
[04:27] <benplaut> parkbench: go to System>Administration>Device Manager
[04:27] <parkbench> but my main problem right now is a) it seems that both drivers are considered invalid, and b) when i try to do "modrpobe," It says operation not permitted
[04:27] <drew> crimsun,  but do I type plug:surround something somewhere?
[04:28] <parkbench> benplaut: im already there, i was actually looking for an answer to your quesiotn -_-;
[04:28] <benplaut> oh
[04:28] <crimsun> drew: no, those are only virtual alsa devices. they won't work with oss.
[04:28] <drew> crimsun, snap. so no fun for me?
[04:28] <bddebian> parkbench: Does lsmod think it's already installed?
[04:28] <benplaut> parkbench: paste the output of dmesg in the #flood channel
[04:28] <crimsun> drew: not unless you try additional things like new drivers or another card.
[04:29] <arentie> How do I move a directory to another user's home folder?
[04:29] <drew> crimsun, but I can get 5 speakers working but stuttering using alsa?
[04:29] <crimsun> drew: certainly. You might be able to get rid of the annoying symptoms if you experiment with asoundrc. Read the alsa.opensrc.org web site.
[04:29] <parkbench> bdebbian: well it's odd--the ndiswrapper is definietly instaleld, but the drivers, itll get errors and say it failed but yet hwen i checked theyre "instaleld" but invalid
[04:30] <kbrooks> why do i get a MD5Sum mismatch message?
[04:30] <crimsun> back to work
[04:30] <parkbench> benplaut: err i wouldnt be able to--the ubuntu computer has no internet.
[04:30] <drew> crimsun, thanks:)
[04:30] <benplaut> parkbench: OK
[04:30] <kbrooks> Failed to fetch ftp://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-3.3/gcc-3.3-base_3.3.5-8ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[04:30] <drummer87> can someone explain to me why sound is often spluttery when i use zsnes?
[04:31] <drummer87> it's only in zsnes, nowhere else
[04:31] <arentie> parkbench I suggest running the ndiswrapper commands directly in the folder where the windows drivers reside
[04:31] <parkbench> im just kind of lost right now--ive tried reinstalling the ndiswrapper...a lot of my problem had to do with permissions, so i edited the sudoers file and had to keep running program as and stuff
[04:31] <parkbench> arentie: alright, i guess i could try that
[04:31] <kbrooks> Why do i get this message: Failed to fetch ftp://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-3.3/gcc-3.3-base_3.3.5-8ubuntu2_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[04:32] <arentie> parkbench, i had the same problem...also, lose the ~ if you're following what's stated on Ubuntu's Wiki
[04:32] <benplaut> parkbench: do any LiveCD's properly setup the card?
[04:32] <reka> kbrooks: guessing: something's not right with your sources.list
[04:32] <kbrooks> Anyone know?
[04:32] <drew> crimsun, so what plug: do I type again? i'm sorry, I cleared this window or something
[04:33] <benplaut> kbrooks: corrupt file... that's what MD5Sum checks for
[04:33] <seth_k> kbrooks, it's a backports issue. Try again, you should get a new backports mirror
[04:33] <seth_k> er, wait
[04:33] <seth_k> that's not a backports mirror, where is that
[04:33] <kbrooks> seth_k, i'm upgrading to hoary!
[04:33] <parkbench> benplaut: ? im sorry. this is my first linux install, i have a lot of experience with windows and other tech, but ive had problems like this before so im hoping to just make my way through it and learn from it...i didnt use a live cd, and i dont think they do--some guides said "dont even try to do this with live cd"
[04:33] <benplaut> mirimax is a good mirror
[04:33] <arentie> kbrooks, I suggest downloading from a different mirror
[04:33] <kbrooks> arentie, noooo! i dont wanna have to redl
[04:33] <seth_k> anything you've already downloaded is cached
[04:34] <seth_k> in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:34] <seth_k> so you're fine
[04:34] <kbrooks> can i dpkg -i *.deb ALL the packages?
[04:34] <kbrooks> is it possible?
[04:34] <reka> kbrooks: gross
[04:34] <seth_k> oy, gross
[04:34] <reka> kbrooks:  "One-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[04:34] <benplaut> parkbench: if a live CD (Knoppix is very good) can properly detect the card, then it's not very hard to see how it's setting it up, and repeat it on the Ubuntu install
[04:34] <reka> but hta assumes you ahve a correct sources.list to begin with
[04:34] <benplaut> we all have/had problems with wireless :)
[04:34] <parkbench> benplaut: i *suppose* i could do that but i would like to avoid using blank cds if possible
[04:35] <bddebian> Amen to that
[04:35] <reka> *that assumes you have
[04:35] <arentie> Amen to wireless issues
[04:35] <kbrooks> reka, ok, so whats a clean sources.list
[04:35] <benplaut> parkbench: OK... i'm kinda out of ideas
[04:35] <parkbench> benplaut: because there is supposedly a solution to this but the problem with this sort of thing is no one ever makes a comprehensive guide..some do but only to one part of the problem, so its just kind of like, making do with what you got. that method got me as far as i am but im litterally lost now :|
[04:35] <parkbench> alright
[04:36] <arentie> everyone, how do I copy a directory into another user's home folder?
[04:36] <reka> kbrooks: just a sec
[04:36] <benplaut> parkbench: where was the guide/manpage you followed?
[04:36] <parkbench> my main obstacle is getting ndiswrapper.ko to actually let me touch it
[04:36] <bddebian> arentie: cp -r
[04:36] <parkbench> well i used lots of googlefu, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HowToSetUpNdiswrapper <-that one
[04:36] <vladuz976> anybody here who knows how to fix the screen resolution problem?
[04:36] <parkbench> plus countless forum posts and such
[04:36] <benplaut> hmm
[04:36] <arentie> bddebian, what does the -r represent?
[04:36] <seth_k> recursive
[04:36] <kbrooks> recursive
[04:36] <bddebian> arentie: recurse through the subdirectories
[04:37] <HuzzahItInstalle> I'm reading through this guide, and apparently I need to install libgtk1.2 , so it tells me to "sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2 libxaw6" , except it tells me "E: Couldn't find package libgtk1.2"
[04:37] <vladuz976> goldfish, i am back
[04:37] <kbrooks> echo!
[04:37] <seth_k> echo!
[04:37] <arentie> thanks, I'll try that
[04:37] <reka> kbrooks: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/419
[04:37] <HuzzahItInstalle> Is there something I need to do to set up apt-get?
[04:37] <seth_k> (if you don't use -r, it will copy the directory structure with nothing inside)
[04:37] <drew> does anyone know what to type in for xmms to get 5 speakers to play?  it's plug: something
[04:37] <seth_k> Huzzah, not really
[04:37] <benplaut> parkbench: will you download and burn one CD? SimplyMepis supports many ndiswrapper'ed cards "out of the box"
[04:37] <reka> kbrooks: that's the warty sources.list
[04:37] <reka> kbrooks: then run the command i gave above
[04:37] <kbrooks> ok
[04:37] <bddebian> HuzzahItInstalle: "sudo apt-cache search libgtk"
[04:37] <parkbench> benplaut: :/ i suppose if i really need to...how big is it, curious
[04:37] <remyforbes777>  huzzah: you have to make sure that your apt-get sources list is correct
[04:38] <parkbench> benplaut: iw as hoping, even if i had to stay up all night, that id have this solved by tomorrow
[04:38] <arentie> I receive this error: cp: cannot stat `Folder': No such file or directory
[04:38] <benplaut> it makes full use of a CD... 700mb
[04:38] <parkbench> hrum..
[04:38] <benplaut> good luck on that...
[04:38] <HuzzahItInstalle> Hmmm, it just has 2.0
[04:38] <parkbench> an entier live cd just for that...hmm
[04:38] <benplaut> you're on dialup, i suppose?
[04:38] <parkbench> i mean i guess it IS worth it for the functionality ill get just...
[04:38] <reka> vladuz976: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:38] <vladuz976> reka, i tried that already
[04:38] <parkbench> well ill keep that in mind...if i cant figure out how to make ubuntu permit me to perform operations on ndiswrapper.ko
[04:39] <HuzzahItInstalle> So this sources list dictates what I see when I apt-get?
[04:39] <benplaut> is this a PCMCIA/cardbus card?
[04:39] <reka> vladuz976: and?
[04:39] <vladuz976> reka, nothing happend
[04:39] <bddebian> arentie: "cp -r /home/usr1/* /home/usr2/ " You did it like that?
[04:39] <remyforbes777> huzzah: it dictates where apt-get will go to search for the packages
[04:39] <bddebian> HuzzahItInstalle: Yes
[04:39] <reka> vladuz976: post your xorg.conf file to a pastebin
[04:39] <HuzzahItInstalle> How do I change where it's pointing?
[04:39] <HuzzahItInstalle> Because apparently I need to downgrade that package
[04:39] <arentie> bddebian, not exactly, but I'll try now...by the way, i'm moving a folder/directory
[04:40] <parkbench> benplaut: assuming i do use the livecd, i just watch the method used to enable the ndiswrapper, or what?
[04:40] <bddebian> arentie: EVERYTHING is a file in *nix ;-)
[04:40] <remyforbes777> huzzah: look in etc/apt/sources.lst
[04:40] <reka> HuzzahItInstalle: you edit the file: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:40] <jasoncohen> i dont' get this. sometimes esd does multiplexing properly and sometimes it doesn't
[04:40] <jasoncohen> when i see two esd instances it works and when i don't it doesn't
[04:40] <vladuz976> reka, ok hold on
[04:40] <remyforbes777> sorry , reka is right its sources.list
[04:40] <benplaut> parkbench: well... pretty much. did ndiswrapper even install correctly onto your machine? or did that fail?
[04:41] <Hackmo> can anyone tell me how to execute a bin file?
[04:41] <kbrooks> yes
[04:41] <kbrooks> ./bin
[04:41] <reka> Hackmo: type the name?
[04:41] <HuzzahItInstalle> Thanks all
[04:41] <kbrooks> if the file is +x, which can be set by: chmod +x bin
[04:41] <reka> Hackmo: did you find the name?
[04:41] <Hackmo> reka: already tried just typing the name of the file but it didn't work
[04:41] <jasoncohen> why would multiplexing work only sometimes?
[04:42] <Hackmo> reka: nope
[04:42] <kbrooks> Hackmo, what is the file name?
[04:42] <Hackmo> el.x86.linux.bin:
[04:42] <arentie> bddebian, error: mv: cannot stat `Wedding': No such file or directory
[04:42] <kbrooks> huh.....
[04:42] <arentie> bddebian, Wedding is the name of the folder that I'm trying to move
[04:43] <Hackmo> it says to install it I need to chmod the directory to 577 which I have done then run that file
[04:43] <Hackmo> I don't know how to run that file though
[04:43] <Frank_dot> The long struggle is over!! I switched to Ubuntu32 from 64. So little pain... it's like heaven!
[04:43] <parkbench> if ti helps at all, im looking through dmesg and it is informing me what i guess i already know: loadndiswrapper failed, over and over again
[04:43] <reka> Hackmo: is this still the game you're talking about?
[04:44] <Hackmo> reka: this is a different game now
[04:44] <reka> arentie: then there isn't a Wedding subdirectory where you currently are.
[04:44] <parkbench> benplaut: it supposedly installed correctly: from synaptic it said everything was fine but evidence suggests no...i tried reinstallling...should i try compeltely removing and then reinstalling?
[04:44] <reka> arentie: type "ls" to check
[04:44] <phoenixeye> has anyone install ubuntu with a SATA hard drive?
[04:44] <bddebian> arentie: Show me the command
[04:44] <jasoncohen> it appears as if esd only spawns correctly sometimes
[04:44] <tiglionabbit> lawl, I'm actually weaning myself off the console and discovering how things can be done in beautiful guis now
[04:44] <benplaut> parkbench: brb
[04:44] <jasoncohen> other times it doesn't spawn
[04:44] <Hackmo> I completed pingus and supertux so I thought i'd try out some more :p
[04:44] <reka> nice:)
[04:45] <arentie> root@marndthomepcubuntu:/home/marndt # cp /home/marndt/Wedding -r /home/yellopokey
[04:45] <arentie> cp: cannot stat `/home/marndt/Wedding': No such file or directory
[04:45] <Hackmo> so anyone know how to execute this file?
[04:45] <reka> Hackmo: is this a manual install, or using apt-get/synaptic?
[04:45] <Hackmo> manual install
[04:45] <arentie> root@marndthomepcubuntu:/home/marndt # ls
[04:45] <arentie> cei.conf                TUX_Issue2_May2005.pdf
[04:45] <arentie> Desktop                 ubuntu5.04
[04:45] <arentie> Document Checklist.sxw  walleye.jpeg
[04:45] <arentie> Firefox_wallpaper.png   Wedding
[04:45] <arentie> gtk-gnutella-downloads  Wedding Mass Worksheet.pdf
[04:45] <arentie> Music                   Wedding Program Cover Picture.jpg
[04:45] <DonL> Hackmo, well done. I've not come close to finishing those games
[04:45] <arentie> ndiswrapper-1.1         windows_drivers
[04:45] <tiglionabbit> arentie: don't paste here
[04:45] <reka> Hackmo: is it in the repo?
[04:45] <bddebian> arentie: "cp -r /home/marndt/Wedding /home/yellopokey/"
[04:46] <tiglionabbit> arentie: use #flood or a pastebin
[04:46] <reka> tiglionabbit: too late :)
[04:46] <Hackmo> reka: no i've already checked
[04:46] <reka> sorry.  that was my fault.  i told him to run ls :)
[04:46] <vladuz976> reka, it asks me what video modes i would like to use, non of these really sound familiar, canyou help?
[04:46] <reka> vladuz976: post your xorg.conf file first
[04:46] <reka> to a pastebin
[04:46] <vladuz976> ok
[04:46] <benplaut> parkbench: what does "sudo ndiswrapper" spit out?
[04:47] <reka> Hackmo: README or INSTALL file?
[04:47] <Hackmo> the readme doesn't help and there is no install.txt
[04:47] <parkbench> well, i just completely uninstalled ndiswrapper and reinstalled..fromt hat point it says unable to look up ubuntu via gethostname, and the public/pickup error
[04:48] <reka> Hackmo: link to website you're getting it from?
[04:48] <HuzzahItInstalle> It's installing!  Thank you all!
[04:48] <Hackmo> reka: http://www.eternal-lands.com/index.php?content=download
[04:48] <HuzzahItInstalle> Reka, that sources pointer was fantastic
[04:49] <Hackmo> reka: from that page it says "download the zip file, and unzip it cd to the directory where you isntalled it chmod to 775 and execute el.x86.linux.bin"
[04:49] <vladuz976> reka, http://rafb.net/paste/results/AKGzSV73.html
[04:49] <bddebian> Hackmo: Is that file there?
[04:49] <Hackmo> bddebian: yeah
[04:49] <reka> Hackmo: yeah, those instructions are crappy :)
[04:50] <DonL> got to go for now. Bye
[04:50] <reka> HuzzahItInstalle: good to hear :)
[04:50] <Hackmo> reka: lol yeah
[04:50] <bddebian> Hackmo: And you did "./el.x86.linux.bin" from that directory?
[04:50] <benplaut> parkbench: OK, it's now officially over my head... sorry. Try posting at UbuntuForums (if you haven't already), lots of people using ndiswrapper over there. i only used it once, and it... didn't work...
[04:50] <reka> vladuz976: what res do you want?
[04:50] <Hackmo> bddebian: no I did not, I was not aware I needed to "./"
[04:50] <bddebian> Hackmo: You do if you are in that directory
[04:51] <vladuz976> reka, 1280x1040 i think is it
[04:51] <Hackmo> bddebian: haha yeah just tried it and it works
[04:51] <Hackmo> thanks a lot for all the help guys
[04:51] <vladuz976> reka, or is it 1080?
[04:51] <bddebian> Hackmo: Otherwise you have to do "/path/to/file/el.x386.." :-)
[04:51] <bddebian> Hackmo: Cool
[04:51] <parkbench> benplaut: agg -__-. alright, now comes where i try every friggin driver there
[04:51] <reka> vladuz976: dunno.  never gone that high :)
[04:51] <vladuz976> reka, 1280x1024
[04:51] <vladuz976> reka, that's what i used to have
[04:52] <reka> vladuz976: you sure your monitor is capable?  do you know the model?
[04:52] <parkbench> but i cant even do that cos it wont let meaccess
[04:52] <reka> vladuz976: ah, do you have the model handy?
[04:52] <vladuz976> reka, yeah that is what i had
[04:52] <vladuz976> reka yes hold on
[04:52] <arentie> tiglionabbit, sorry but I don't know anything about #flood or pastebin
[04:53] <parkbench> i mean, i also tried the INFs that came with my wireless adapter on the cd, but those are apparently also invalid
[04:53] <bddebian> INFs?? WTF?
[04:53] <siorfin> ndiswrapper
[04:53] <bddebian> eeks
[04:53] <reka> arentie: #flood is an IRC channel, pastebins are places where you can dump text....one is linked to in the channel topic above
[04:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know how to get mplayer to play movies with a bigger sized picture?
[04:54] <vladuz976> reka, dell ultrascan p780 here is what i found http://support.jp.dell.com/docs/monitors/P780/En/spec.htm
[04:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> even in full screen
[04:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's samll >.<
[04:54] <reka> ok, hang on
[04:55] <parkbench> bdebbian the driver
[04:55] <bddebian> parkbench: What kind of card is it again?
[04:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> any ideas?
[04:55] <HaroldJohnson> I live here now.
[04:55] <bddebian> Well welcome home then HaroldJohnson :-)
[04:55] <HaroldJohnson> Hey there
[04:56] <reka> vladuz976: can you run this please: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[04:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know how to make the picture in mplayer bigger?
[04:56] <parkbench> bdebbian: I dont know, where can i see that? it's an old comp that i found in basement, dell p3...im in device manager but where would it be labeled?
[04:56] <vladuz976> reka, monitorrange: 30-85, 48-120
[04:56] <reka> ChurcH_of_FoamY: i've heard of that.  search ubforums while you wait
[04:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[04:56] <vladuz976> reka, that is correct no?
[04:57] <Harold> I just received a message about using LVM while apt-get upgrading
[04:57] <reka> vladuz976: yep, hang on
[04:57] <Harold> Anyone have any idea what it means/
[04:57] <Harold> ?
[04:57] <Harold> Ah, nevermind
[04:58] <bddebian> parkbench: Hang on a sec
[04:59] <warrior_> Hey guys, I need someone to look at my xorg.conf file and let me know why I'm getting a keyboard error at startup
[04:59] <warrior_> I've got the error if you need to see it
[04:59] <bddebian> parkbench: Is it a USB adapter?
[04:59] <seth_k> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl warrior_
[04:59] <seth_k> and I'll look
[05:00] <reka> vladuz976: ok, what i've done is edited your xorg.conf file.  i've added your monitor rates in the Monitor section and added 1280x1024 as the default resolutions for all colour depths.  replace your old xorg.conf file with this one.  (backup if you want)
[05:00] <reka> vladuz976: http://rafb.net/paste/results/tBp0UA47.html
[05:00] <remyforbes777> reka are you female?
[05:00] <vladuz976> reka,ok i'll try
[05:00] <reka> remyforbes777: no.  do i give that impression? :)
[05:01] <remyforbes777> no, the name reka did
[05:01] <reka> remyforbes777: i got it off "eureka"...my favourite movie :)
[05:01] <remyforbes777> im from the hood so i was thinking like shareka, or dareka,
[05:01] <remyforbes777> lol
[05:01] <reka> i've been told it means "river" and "right" in other languages
[05:01] <warrior_> seth_k,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/420
[05:01] <remyforbes777> real ethnic hood names
[05:02] <reka> ha
[05:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> there seems to be only documentation about how to compile and instal mplayer in ubuntu
[05:02] <reka> remyforbes777: no, occasionly listening to r&b is as urban as i get. :)
[05:02] <parkbench> bdebbian: sorry, yes, it is a USB adapter
[05:02] <parkbench> bdebbian: linksys WUSB12v1.1 802.11b
[05:02] <Harold> Here's a hood name: Choo Choo
[05:02] <remyforbes777> lol, alright
[05:03] <seth_k> warrior_, and the error?
[05:03] <Harold> Or Clownboy
[05:03] <vladuz976> reka, just restart X is enough?
[05:03] <rob^> yay I'm back after spilling coffee on my old keyboard and breaking it
[05:03] <reka> vladuz976: should be
[05:03] <reka> vladuz976: reboot if not
[05:03] <vladuz976> reka, ok i'll be back
[05:04] <remyforbes777> reka: let me ask you something
[05:04] <rob^> it was funny to watch the coffee short out different keys and watch them scroll across the screen in gedit
[05:04] <remyforbes777> reka: how many hours a day do you say you spent learning linux
[05:04] <warrior_> seth_k,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/421
[05:05] <seth_k> thanks warrior
[05:05] <Harold> What is a pastebin?
[05:05] <warrior_> seth_k, actually, thank you if you have any insight on my prob
[05:06] <reka> remyforbes777: not many
[05:06] <bddebian> parkbench: Have you tried the atmel driver?
[05:06] <warrior_> seth_k, I redid fglrxconfig after I got the error but no change
[05:06] <seth_k> Harold, it's a place to paste lots of stuff without flooding the channel
[05:06] <reka> Harold: a website where you can dump text for others to se
[05:06] <seth_k> warrior_, you are using Warty or Hoary?
[05:06] <remyforbes777> reka: really, how did you become so knowledgable
[05:06] <parkbench> atmel? no, is it located in ubuntu already? i might have seen an atmel.ko
[05:06] <reka> :)
[05:06] <parkbench> or i could be making shit up
[05:06] <warrior_> seth_k, Hoary
[05:06] <parkbench> but regardless, no i havent
[05:06] <bddebian> parkbench: Try this:  "sudo modprobe atmel"
[05:06] <Harold> Thanks, Seth and Reka
[05:07] <WillieDaPimp> i just recieved 10 copies of Ubuntu and i tried to boot the live version and it won't boot, not one out of the ten will boot
[05:07] <reka> remyforbes777: they're common problems to ubuntu.  just stay in here a while and you pick up stuff. :)
[05:07] <ksmurf> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/308177
[05:07] <parkbench> 'unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()'
[05:07] <remyforbes777> reka: ohhhh ok, got you
[05:07] <ksmurf> That is what I get when I open a sudo natilus or gedit from terminal
[05:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how to get to the hdb1 drive in console?
[05:07] <parkbench> then 'postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pikcup: no such file or directory
[05:07] <ksmurf> should I be worried?
[05:08] <reka> remyforbes777: how long have you been using linux?
[05:08] <reka> ksmurf: wow
[05:08] <parkbench> i get that for a lot of the commands i enter
[05:08] <bddebian> parkbench: OK, hang on a sec
[05:08] <remyforbes777> reka: not long, i have been messing with it for a few months
[05:08] <parkbench> okay, thank you
[05:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i need to get into the hdb1 drive in console anyone know how to?
[05:08] <ksmurf> reka what's it mean?
[05:08] <Harold> Anyone: How do I check how much disk space I have remaining/
[05:08] <seth_k> warrior_, this file is super whack. Have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[05:08] <Harold> ?
[05:09] <seth_k> otherwise I'll have a go at trimming it up for you
[05:09] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: In console?
[05:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes
[05:09] <warrior_> seth_k, no but will that reset my 3d acceleration with ati?
[05:09] <reka> ksmurf: not sure.  might be a glib issue by the looks of it
[05:09] <warrior_> seth_k, I mean I'll do it again if I have to but you know
[05:09] <remyforbes777> reka: I am studying for my Linux +, I have Ubuntu installed on an old HP Pavilion with about 32 MB of ram, I am not even running X
[05:09] <ksmurf> reka... k thanks
[05:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm trying to get to my hdb1 drive and the folder i created there
[05:09] <seth_k> warrior_, two things
[05:09] <vladuz976> reka, awesome works like a charm
[05:09] <seth_k> first, you'll have a backup
[05:09] <vladuz976> reka, thank you sooo much
[05:09] <reka> vladuz976: good to hear.
[05:09] <seth_k> second, you'll be able to select the fglrx driver again so it's all good
[05:09] <reka> vladuz976: back it up somewhere for future reinstalls :)
[05:09] <seth_k> imo the benefits are worth it
[05:10] <reka> then you can just copy it over
[05:10] <vladuz976> reka,
[05:10] <seth_k> You're using the driver straight from ATI?
[05:10] <vladuz976> reka, yes for sure
[05:10] <seth_k> or the fglrx driver from Ubuntu
[05:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> media hdb1
[05:10] <warrior_> seth_k, gotcha, I'm gonna give it a shot.  Yep the rpms from the website 8.14.13-1
[05:10] <remyforbes777> reka: i wanna do a lot more with it, setting it up on a windows network, maybe use it as a firewall, a DNS server, or a proxy server
[05:10] <ksmurf> anyone here use 3ddesktop switching?
[05:10] <reka> remyforbes777: see.  i have no clue about networking on *nix. :)
[05:10] <remyforbes777> reka: there is so much to learn though, I feel like I dont know jack
[05:11] <seth_k> yeah, just select the fglrx driver, warrior_
[05:11] <reka> remyforbes777: you'll get there. :)
[05:11] <seth_k> when you do the reconfigure
[05:11] <remyforbes777> I did set SAMBA up and I can see this box from my windows machine
[05:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know?
[05:11] <warrior_> seth_k, cool bbl if all goes well :)
[05:11] <seth_k> cross fingers :D
[05:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cd cdrom0
[05:11] <ksmurf> u can see the box but can't get in right?
[05:11] <reka> remyforbes777: i didn't even know how to use irssi a month ago...so i'm always learning :)
[05:11] <remyforbes777> reka: compiling my kernel has been another task, I keep getting errors everytime
[05:12] <remyforbes777> reka: i dont even know what irssi is
[05:12] <reka> remyforbes777: see, i avoid messing with my kernel.  only compiled once, and that was using a guide
[05:12] <reka> remyforbes777: apt-cache show irssi
[05:13] <remyforbes777> reka: what is that supposed to do
[05:13] <remyforbes777> reka: it didnt do anything
[05:13] <chugga> will ubuntu run off a cd?
[05:13] <remyforbes777> reka: does that run using X?
[05:13] <reka> whoops.
[05:13] <parkbench> chugga: there are ubuntu livecds if thats what youre asking
[05:14] <reka> remyforbes777: it's just an IRC client that can run in a terminal
[05:14] <chugga> park, official ones? do they work well?
[05:14] <bddebian> parkbench: Is this the only network adapter?
[05:14] <reka> WillieDaPimp: tried them on a different computer?
[05:14] <remyforbes777> reka: ahhhhhh, see I am not using a terminal, straight shell
[05:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm trying to get here in console how to do : media:/hdb1/shane
[05:14] <parkbench> bdebbian: on the linuxbox? yeah its the only usb
[05:15] <remyforbes777> reka: anytime I try to boot into X my box freezes
[05:15] <parkbench> chugga: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ scroll down to livecd
[05:15] <parkbench> chugga: i havent used them but from waht i understand they work fine just like any other livecd
[05:15] <reka> remyforbes777: why?
[05:15] <reka> remyforbes777: tried fixing it?
[05:15] <bddebian> parkbench: OK but is it the only network card in the computer?
[05:15] <zeeeee> hi all, it seems right now i can't run apps that use esd and jack audio systems at the same time... is there any solution for this?
[05:16] <remyforbes777> reka: dont know how, someone suggested it was because I only have 32MB of RAM
[05:16] <parkbench> bdebbian: well again i dont know. before i installe dlinux i just plugged the USB in and it worked fine, windows xp
[05:16] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Mount the drive somewhere
[05:16] <reka> remyforbes777: ah, yes.  probably :)
[05:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's already mounted
[05:16] <chugga> how long have ppl here been running ubuntu? have you had any problems with updating or upgrading
[05:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i just need to get to it through console
[05:16] <remyforbes777> reka: the logs really didnt show me much
[05:16] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: What do you mean by console?  You mean a terminal window?
[05:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i don't know how to change deives in linux yet
[05:16] <reka> remyforbes777: although ubuntu req. says it only needs at least 32
[05:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes terminal window
[05:16] <drew> crimsun, are you still there?
[05:17] <reka> remyforbes777: tried using a more lightweight WM?  t could be gnome.
[05:17] <reka> *it could be
[05:17] <parkbench> bdebbian: and the computer USED to be a commonly used comp with 56k, then cable, years ago
[05:17] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: There are no "drives" in GNU/Linux.  It mounts to a directory.
[05:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> um...ok
[05:17] <remyforbes777> reka: someone suggested that, but I dont know where to start , I havent researched it yet
[05:17] <drew> well, could someone help me?  when I use the alsa plugin w/ xmms the sound stutters.  Any ideas?
[05:17] <robitaille> bddebian:  just saw your wiki page.  You're not THAT old :)
[05:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> then how do i get to the directory in hdb1?
[05:17] <tiglionabbit> oh hi again ChurcH_of_FoamY
[05:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hey how are ya?
[05:18] <reka> remyforbes777: well if you're happy using console only...
[05:18] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: is that partition mounted somewhere?
[05:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes
[05:18] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: then go there
[05:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's on a drive seperate then mine
[05:18] <bddebian> parkbench: Do you see anything if you go to System->Administration->Networking ?
[05:18] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what did you put for the mountpoint?
[05:18] <remyforbes777> reka: i mean its cool, I might learn more using just that, but I would like to have a WM
[05:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but i need to do it in terminal to get mplayer to play in full screen
[05:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> storage
[05:19] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you're not making sense.  What is in the second column for it in fstab, or the second argument you passed to mount
[05:19] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Just type "mount" on the command line
[05:19] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: or that, what bddebian said
[05:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok in windows you have drive c:
[05:19] <sayao> does anyone knows if there are openoffice 2 beta packages available for hoary?
[05:19] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: the windows drive letters don't matter here
[05:19] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: It should say /dev/hdb1 on /foo/bar
[05:19] <reka> remyforbes777: i couldn't live with console only. :)  i'd try it if i were you...something like fluxbox probably
[05:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> if you want drive d you go "cd d:/
[05:19] <drew> well, could someone help me?  when I use the alsa plugin w/ xmms the sound stutters.  Any ideas?
[05:19] <bddebian> robitaille: Well I feel about 75 ;-P
[05:19] <reka> sayao: yes
[05:20] <sayao> reka, where?
[05:20] <parkbench> bdebbiaN: to even get INTO that i have to run the program as user root and input password and all that
[05:20] <parkbench> bdebbian: but once inside..
[05:20] <bddebian> parkbench: No, you have to put your password in :-)
[05:20] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: think linux here
[05:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok then how the heck do i change to the harddrive that contains the info in terminal >.<
[05:20] <parkbench> there's a grayed out "modem connection"
[05:20] <reka> sayao: openoffice.org2 - Office suite core, version 2.0
[05:20] <remyforbes777> reka: so do a apt-get install fluxbox? Then how do I mak that my defualt WM
[05:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm trying but have been dumbed down by years of windows use
[05:20] <reka> sayao: it will install it seperately from the default one
[05:20] <ksmurf> K ... next . Does anyone have any experience with wine?
[05:20] <bddebian> parkbench: No "Ethernet Connection" ?
[05:20] <robitaille> bddebian: well, now I feel old after seeing your birthday...
[05:20] <reka> remyforbes777: ah, see, i'm not sure bout that
[05:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and the drive is
[05:20] <parkbench> bdebbian: no
[05:21] <remyforbes777> reka: i'll google it or something
[05:21] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: okay, first off, in a terminal, say `mount`.  What does it say /dev/hdb1 is on?
[05:21] <blah> streamripper sure is a nice application
[05:21] <reka> remyforbes777: i'm sure there are people in here who know though.
[05:21] <parkbench> bdebbian: and i realised that nothing there was the problem...so ive just been trying to piece togehter resources on how to get ANYTHING to appear
[05:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> /dev/hdb1 on /storage type ext3 (rw)
[05:21] <remyforbes777> reka: I'll be on tomorrow, right now I have to lay it down for the night
[05:21] <sayao> reka, but where are the packages?
[05:21] <bddebian> parkbench: I think something is missing in your network config
[05:21] <bddebian> ChurcH_of_FoamY: OK, so cd /storage
[05:21] <remyforbes777> reka: take it easy
[05:21] <blah> then i edit the mp3 rips with audacity
[05:21] <parkbench> what would i do in order to change that, though?
[05:22] <reka> sayao: that's the package name: openoffice.org2
[05:22] <bddebian> parkbench: I'm not sure what it is yet.  Something is screwed up with DNS or something
[05:22] <reka> it's a metapackage
[05:22] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: then it's in /storage.  So go look at the highest directory in your filesystem and go into the storage directory there
[05:22] <blah> who needs p2p when u just rip audio streams right off the internet
[05:22] <reka> remyforbes777: later
[05:22] <bddebian> parkbench: Get to a terminal and type "cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[05:22] <parkbench> bdebbian: well when i installed the only component that cuoldnt complete was the networking, because there wa sno connection and it was this wireless thing
[05:22] <parkbench> bdebbian: ok
[05:22] <bddebian> parkbench: Ahhh
[05:22] <sayao> reka, i've installed those, but they are old.. .79 iirc
[05:23] <parkbench> no such file or directory?
[05:23] <reka> sayao: oh, ok
[05:23] <bddebian> parkbench: OK.  Try this just for fun:  "apt-get update"  then do "apt-get -f install"
[05:23] <robitaille> sayao:  that the best ooo2 packages you will find officially for hoary.
[05:23] <reka> sayao: what about installing directly from their installer?
[05:23] <bddebian> parkbench: Scratch that
[05:24] <blah> hehe i just had to do a apt-get -f install
[05:24] <tiglionabbit> why are you forcing apt?
[05:24] <parkbench> bdebbian: done, they "worked' but it said 0 new instaled, 0 removed, 0 not upgraded...
[05:24] <blah> firefucked wouldnt upgrade
[05:24] <bddebian> tiglionabbit: -f is fix
[05:24] <tiglionabbit> oh
[05:24] <tiglionabbit> =P sorry
[05:24] <bddebian> :-)
[05:24] <vladuz976> i was using fedora before i got ubuntu today. apt-get works similar to yum?
[05:25] <reka> blah: the ubuntu version already has 1.0.4's security updates
[05:25] <blah> how would i go about installing opera on ubuntu?
[05:25] <bddebian> vladuz976: Somewhat
[05:25] <tiglionabbit> vladuz976: yep, but in most people's opinion, better.  You can use aptitude or synaptic as well, for the same purposes
[05:25] <blah> dont care much for firefart
[05:25] <bddebian> blah: "sudo apt-get install opera" ?
[05:25] <seth_k> blah, there is a deb package on opera.com
[05:25] <vladuz976> bddebian, so if i wanna install xine let's say i just go sudo apt-get install xine\*
[05:25] <blah> cool thanks
[05:25] <DonL> I did the same transition, vladuz976 . I really like apt-get
[05:25] <seth_k> bddebian, i don't think it's in the repos
[05:25] <seth_k> iirc
[05:25] <bddebian> seth_k: Ahh
[05:25] <tiglionabbit> vladuz976: you probably want xine-ui
[05:25] <reka> vladuz976: just xine will be fine
[05:25] <seth_k> since non-free
[05:25] <vladuz976> DonL, what's better about it
[05:25] <bddebian> vladuz976: You don't need the xine\*
[05:25] <parkbench> bdebbian: so those worked but i dont think anything changed
[05:26] <reka> or what tiglionabbit said :)
[05:26] <bddebian> parkbench: No it didn't
[05:26] <vladuz976> xine xine-ui what's the differnece?
[05:26] <tiglionabbit> vladuz976: you can search through your package lists with apt-cache search
[05:26] <seth_k> blah, http://opera.com/download/get.pl?distro=ubuntu&id=26855%2C26854&location=132&sub=++++&x=116&y=15
[05:26] <tiglionabbit> vladuz976: um, it's xine with a user interface?
[05:26] <bddebian> seth_k: Is there a specific package for all the network "stuff" ?
[05:26] <chugga> vladuz976, try vlc
[05:26] <seth_k> bddebian, more specific please
[05:26] <blah> ya vlc rocks
[05:26] <vladuz976> chugga, wht that
[05:26] <tiglionabbit> chugga: lol, everyone can recommend a player
[05:27] <bddebian> seth_k: What installs /etc/resolv.conf and the like?
[05:27] <tiglionabbit> totem, mplayer, vlc, xine
[05:27] <yojimbo-san> bddebian: dhclient, if you're on dhcp
[05:27] <reka> vladuz976: also, apparently there aren't the dependency problems you get with RPM-based distros
[05:27] <yojimbo-san> bddebian: otherwise, manual
[05:27] <DonL> vladuz976, it seems better at addressing additional packages
[05:27] <vladuz976> reka, really, sounds good
[05:27] <DonL> Yeah Dependencies
[05:27] <bddebian> yojimbo-san: He is getting gethostbyname() issues and doesn't even have the network card set up yet
[05:27] <chugga> tiglionabbit, yeh, but vlc wins hands down. i used xine for a year then switched to mplayer because it was better, and now i have all three installed but only use vlc
[05:27] <vladuz976> repo's are handled similar to yum.repos?
[05:28] <bddebian> vladuz976: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:28] <tiglionabbit> chugga: what do I need for vlc to play quicktime with sound?
[05:28] <Mestapheles> anyone useing XFS?
[05:28] <unique> can i install ubuntu from network using floppies?
[05:28] <vladuz976> oh ok
[05:28] <seth_k> yes, except our repo's don't suck
[05:28] <yojimbo-san> bddebian: then /etc/hostname ?
[05:28] <Tsunamii> Hi, can somebody help me? - I was wondering if there's an easy way to patch or update Ubuntu
[05:28] <seth_k> you bet!
[05:28] <seth_k> it's called Synaptic
[05:28] <bddebian> yojimbo-san: ??
[05:28] <ksmurf> K ... next . Does anyone have any experience with wine?
[05:28] <seth_k> and it is in the System > Administration menu
[05:28] <chugga> tiglionabbit, not sure to be honest. havent had the need
[05:28] <seth_k> Tsunamii, just hit the Reload button and then Mark All Upgrades and you will be updated
[05:28] <tiglionabbit> chugga: what, do you only play .avi format?
[05:29] <chugga> tiglio, nah, mostly dvds
[05:29] <Tsunamii> oh, thank you seth_k
[05:29] <Tsunamii> is that it?
[05:29] <DonL> I install it, ksmurf and some programs work with it, and some don't
[05:29] <seth_k> it's that easy
[05:29] <tiglionabbit> chugga: yeah, but some people need to play other media formats =P
[05:29] <yojimbo-san> bddebian: man 1 hostname, and look in /etc/hostname file - used in /etc/init.d/hostname
[05:29] <Tsunamii> because when I put in my 66GT before, it won't boot up the GUI
[05:29] <seth_k> Synaptic is also what you use to install new software in Ubuntu
[05:29] <Tsunamii> so i changed to my gf2
[05:29] <seth_k> just search for what you want and click it
[05:29] <Tsunamii> I see
[05:29] <bddebian> parkbench: try: "cat /etc/ hostname" and tell me what's in it if anything
[05:29] <Tsunamii> haha, I just randomly install files on my desktop :P
[05:30] <reka> Tsunamii: hang on...make sure your sources.list is "safe" first
[05:30] <reka> before upgrading
[05:30] <Tsunamii> what do you mean reka?
[05:30] <ksmurf> DonL .... I have one windows proggie left that I can't find an alteritive for.  It uses a serial port.  Do you think wine might work?
[05:30] <seth_k> reka, if he didn't know about Synaptic, I doubt he's changed his sources.list
[05:30] <seth_k> tbh
[05:30] <parkbench> etc is a directory, but hostname no such file or directort
[05:30] <Tsunamii> Yeah, I haven't touched it yet
[05:30] <reka> Tsunamii: i'd avoid doing upgrading hacing backports in there
[05:30] <DonL> ksmurf, can't hurt trying
[05:30] <tiglionabbit> ksmurf: what's the program?
[05:30] <reka> Tsunamii: ah ok then :)
[05:30] <reka> Tsunamii: not likely you'll have much to update then
[05:30] <Tsunamii> :P
[05:30] <chugga> tiglionabbit, fair enough. it is nice to look at my system monitor and find the load to be only 10-13% when playing a movie :)
[05:31] <ksmurf> Tiglionrabbit EasyGPS
[05:31] <Tsunamii> in anycase, by updating - will my Geforce 66GT be supported?
[05:31] <bddebian> parkbench: Got a favorite editor?
[05:31] <parkbench> bdebbian: text? ive only used gedit sincew thats what comes with ubuntu
[05:31] <bddebian> parkbench: That's fine.  Create a file in /etc called hostname
[05:31] <yojimbo-san> my matrox g200 doesn't seem to deliver hardware acceleration - can I do anything about it?
[05:31] <tiglionabbit> ksmurf: have you googled "linux gps" ?
[05:31] <ksmurf> DonL Anything I need to know bout installing wine
[05:32] <yojimbo-san> bddebian: and make sure that hostname is mentioned in /etc/hosts
[05:32] <bddebian> parkbench: Just put any name in there for now.  Call it test1 or something
[05:32] <Tsunamii> seth_k, by updating - will that make Ubuntu support my Geforce 66GT?
[05:32] <bddebian> yojimbo-san: Aye, thanks
[05:32] <drew> does annnyone know how to get alsa working right in xmms?
[05:32] <bddebian> parkbench: And I need a cigarette quick so brb
[05:32] <DonL> When I installed the new Ubuntu version of X-Chat, it automagically gave me a quick link to #Ubuntu and one to #Debian, so I thought I'd try the debian one
[05:32] <seth_k> Tsunamii, search for package 'nvidia-glx'
[05:32] <seth_k> that's what you need
[05:32] <Tsunamii> I'll just download it all :D
[05:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know how to get mplayer to play a bigger image?
[05:32] <Tsunamii> ok, thanks
[05:32] <parkbench> bdebbian: ahh, wish i ha dsmokes. im all out
[05:33] <vladuz976> cany you guys recommend any good repos
[05:33] <DonL> Install it from Synaptic, ksmurf
[05:33] <ksmurf> tiglionrabbit.... Ya . a couple of command line tools came up but I have 40 -  50 locs a week.  Too much to command line in
[05:33] <XhyldazhK> Hi all again! at last! I have working gfx accel, breezy badger, and no conflicts in synaptic!
[05:33] <yojimbo-san> vladuz976: main, universe, multiverse .. :-)
[05:33] <limer> hello everyone
[05:33] <yojimbo-san> hi limer
[05:34] <vladuz976> yojimbo-san, oh never heard of that stuff gotta explore a little
[05:34] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: change your video engine to xv and it should work
[05:34] <DonL> While on the Debian chat, I mentioned I used Ubuntu....... Anyone else done that?
[05:34] <limer> anyone have an ati 9200 that crashes with most screensavers?
[05:34] <parkbench> bdebbian: well as i tried to save it said ia lready existed...so i browsed to the folder nad opened it and inside it just says ubuntu
[05:34] <Tsunamii> hey seth_k, there's no nvidia glx - but there's the common kernal update :P
[05:34] <tiglionabbit> DonL: probably a pretty harsh response, eh?
[05:34] <DonL> Yup. I wasn't expecting it either
[05:34] <yojimbo-san> parkbench: so your hostname is "ubuntu" then. OK, have a look in the /etc/hosts file
[05:35] <parkbench> bdebbian: ah, ok it didnt work before beucase i put a space....without a space in terminal it lists ubuntu
[05:35] <seth_k> ah, Tsunamii, you have to activate the 'restricted' section of your sources.list
[05:35] <Tsunamii> :O
[05:35] <XhyldazhK> seth_k: i did it... I installed the nvidia driver from nvidia.com, and uninstalled nvidia-glx... until breezy gets fixed, that's the easier way
[05:35] <Discipulus> if I have to install something by source, whats's the best way to go about it?
[05:35] <seth_k> fair do's XhyldazhK
[05:35] <seth_k> Discipulus: using the package "checkinstall"
[05:35] <DonL> tiglionabbit, ubuntu has moved me to love Debian.
[05:35] <yojimbo-san> Discipulus: apt-get source <package> ?
[05:35] <tiglionabbit> Discipulus: Download it, tar xvzf it, and read the readme
[05:35] <Tsunamii> how do i open the restricted function?
[05:36] <yojimbo-san> parkbench: what was your original problem? is it now fixed?
[05:36] <seth_k> Tsunamii, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:36] <bddebian> parkbench: OK, that is fine.  Now look at /etc/hosts
[05:36] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: sudo edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment (remove the single #) before the appropriate lines
[05:36] <seth_k> yep
[05:36] <parkbench> yojimbo-san: no, i twasnt fixed...one moment
[05:36] <Tsunamii> rgr
[05:36] <Discipulus> seth_k, what's checkinstall do?
[05:36] <bddebian> yojimbo-san: He is trying to load a linksys usb wireless adapter
[05:36] <seth_k> Discipulus, have you ever installed something from source before?
[05:37] <Xenguy> Discipulus: apt-cache show checkinstall
[05:37] <tiglionabbit> zomg sauce
[05:37] <bddebian> yojimbo-san: And he gets gethostbyname() failed
[05:37] <yojimbo-san> Discipulus: makes a package out of a compiled source tarball.
[05:37] <parkbench> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost
[05:37] <seth_k> you use ./configure && make && make install
[05:37] <Discipulus> seth_k, on Mandrake? All the time. On Ubuntu? Nope.
[05:37] <bddebian> parkbench: Is that it?
[05:37] <Discipulus> Yea, I know how to do it.
[05:37] <seth_k> with checkinstall, you do ./configure && make && checkinstall
[05:37] <Discipulus> ah, alright
[05:37] <yojimbo-san> parkbench: bddebian: hosts should have the word "ubuntu" on the same line
[05:37] <seth_k> and it'll make a Debian package that is easy to uninstall
[05:37] <seth_k> which is the big problem with installing from source
[05:37] <parkbench> bddebian: yup
[05:37] <seth_k> hard to uninstall
[05:37] <seth_k> but with checkinstall, it's gravy
[05:37] <bddebian> parkbench: You need to edit that file and add ubuntu after localhost
[05:37] <parkbench> space or no/
[05:38] <tiglionabbit> whoa, seth_k, that sounds cool, how did you say you do that?
[05:38] <bddebian> parkbench: so it should say <IP_ADDRESS> localhost ubuntu
[05:38] <yojimbo-san> parkbench: just like this "<IP_ADDRESS><space>localhost<space>ubuntu"
[05:38] <seth_k> tiglionabbit, wherever the readme tells you to use "make install", simply replace with "checkinstall"
[05:38] <seth_k> and it will install and also spit out a debian package
[05:38] <seth_k> that you can then use to remove the files you installed via source
[05:38] <seth_k> it's super nifty
[05:38] <warrior_> seth_k, things are running great
[05:38] <seth_k> w00t!
[05:39] <tiglionabbit> seth_k: seems so.  I shall install this checkinstall
[05:39] <parkbench> wont let me edit...read only
[05:39] <warrior_> seth_k, thanks for your help, you are a true master of the arts
[05:39] <seth_k> glad to hear it warrior_
[05:39] <Tsunamii> how do i know which one to uncomment?
[05:39] <seth_k> haha, np
[05:39] <parkbench> i assume theres a way around with permissions, or something, or if i run gedit as root
[05:39] <tiglionabbit> parkbench: start your command with 'sudo'
[05:39] <seth_k> Tsunamii, look for one with "restricted" in it
[05:39] <bddebian> parkbench: Aye, sudo
[05:39] <tiglionabbit> parkbench: or run a root terminal
[05:39] <seth_k> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[05:39] <seth_k> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[05:39] <Tsunamii> yeah, but do i have to uncomment them all?
[05:39] <seth_k> jsut those two
[05:39] <seth_k> except yours say "hoary"
[05:40] <seth_k> er
[05:40] <bddebian> parkbench: Learn vi ;-)  Just kidding
[05:40] <seth_k> those are security
[05:40] <seth_k> my bad
[05:40] <seth_k> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[05:40] <seth_k> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[05:40] <seth_k> those two
[05:40] <eltino> Hello
[05:40] <seth_k> the ones that end in restricted
[05:40] <tiglionabbit> yeah but whatever you do, DONT put the word breezy in there
[05:40] <seth_k> hi eltino
[05:40] <parkbench> okay, done
[05:40] <Xenguy> bddebian: everyone should learn vi eventually :-)
[05:40] <tiglionabbit> that'll really screw you up
[05:40] <seth_k> indeed!
[05:40] <Tsunamii> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[05:40] <Tsunamii> # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted
[05:40] <Tsunamii> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted
[05:40] <Tsunamii> is that it?
[05:40] <seth_k> yep
[05:40] <seth_k> oy, wary
[05:40] <seth_k> s/wary/warty
[05:40] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: yup.  Warty?
[05:40] <seth_k> upgrade
[05:40] <Tsunamii> yeah, what's wrong with Warty? D:
[05:41] <seth_k> vi is a text editor
[05:41] <seth_k> Warty is old :P
[05:41] <Tsunamii> i got it free with a PC mag
[05:41] <Tsunamii> oh
[05:41] <Tsunamii> :(
[05:41] <IceDC571> vim is neat
[05:41] <bddebian> Xenguy: No, they shouldn't :-)
[05:41] <seth_k> you have broadband?
[05:41] <Tsunamii> yeah
[05:41] <Xenguy> parkbench: it's worth it (vim actually)
[05:41] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: to upgrade to hoary, I believe you can replace all of those "warty"s with the word "hoary", and then do sudo apt-get uppdate; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:41] <bddebian> parkbench: It's an antiquated editor :-)
[05:41] <seth_k> that's correct
[05:41] <seth_k> s/uppdate/update
[05:41] <Xenguy> bddebian: how else will we know when world domination is complete?! :P
[05:41] <IceDC571> i hated it at first but i grew to love it
[05:41] <parkbench> bddebbian: ahh, from the dark ages of linux perhaps :)
[05:41] <bddebian> Xenguy: Heh
[05:41] <Xenguy> bddebian: antiquated my ass
[05:41] <Tsunamii> i tried apt-get update ( doesn't work :P ), haven't tried apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:41] <bddebian> parkbench: Actually from Unix
[05:41] <Tsunamii> ok firstly
[05:41] <tiglionabbit> vi is an editor in which you can use the s/old/new/ substitution syntax everyone uses in this chatroom
[05:42] <Tsunamii> which should i do first?
[05:42] <Tsunamii> update this via synaptic, or dist-update?
[05:42] <seth_k> eh, use Warty for now
[05:42] <seth_k> uncomment those lines, save
[05:42] <parkbench> bdebbian: coolies. so now that thats corrected, should i stop geting gethostbyname errors
[05:42] <IceDC571> i just discovered checkinstall.. neat script
[05:42] <seth_k> then reload in Synaptic
[05:42] <seth_k> then you can install nvidia-glx
[05:42] <Tsunamii> there's a lot of Commented lines btw D:
[05:42] <seth_k> and get your vid card fun
[05:42] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: that's dist-upgrade
[05:42] <bddebian> parkbench: Let's hope.  Try your "sudo modprobe atmel" again
[05:42] <Discipulus> so what does dist-upgrade do that upgrade doesn't?
[05:42] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: don't uncomment the ## ones, just the # ones
[05:42] <Tsunamii> yeah, there's 6 of them
[05:43] <tiglionabbit> Discipulus: dist-upgrade is allowed to remove packages when dependencies change in a newer version
[05:43] <Tsunamii> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[05:43] <Tsunamii> # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted
[05:43] <Tsunamii> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted
[05:43] <Tsunamii> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[05:43] <Tsunamii> ## repository.
[05:43] <seth_k> Tsunamii, they do different things. add security updates, add more software
[05:43] <tiglionabbit> Discipulus: remove and install newer dependencies
[05:43] <Tsunamii> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[05:43] <Discipulus> ah, alright
[05:43] <Tsunamii> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[05:43] <Tsunamii> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[05:43] <Tsunamii> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[05:43] <seth_k> Tsunamii, please don't flood
[05:43] <Tsunamii> ## team.
[05:43] <Tsunamii> # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe
[05:43] <Tsunamii> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe
[05:43] <bddebian> Whoa
[05:43] <Tsunamii> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted
[05:43] <Tsunamii> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted
[05:43] <Tsunamii> yeah sorry
[05:43] <Tsunamii> just wanted to know which one to uncomment D:!
[05:43] <warrior_> :D
[05:43] <jbroome> nice
[05:43] <seth_k> in the future, just use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:43] <tiglionabbit> Discipulus: "upgrade" will often report that some things were "held back" because their dependencies had changed.  To install these held back ones, you've got to use dist-upgrade instead
[05:44] <Tsunamii> k
[05:44] <Discipulus> tiglionabbit, ah, alright
[05:44] <Tsunamii> so yeah, uncomment all # ?
[05:44] <seth_k> well, IMO you should uncomment all of them, and change all "warty" to "hoary", then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:44] <tiglionabbit> Discipulus: sorry for being so verbose there, just thought other people in the channel could stand to read that too
[05:44] <warrior_> geez how far away is kernel 2.6.12?  I need to upgrade.  I NEED it!
[05:44] <seth_k> warrior_, it's in Breezy now :D
[05:44] <eltino> anyone having trouble accessing MSN with hoary's gaim?
[05:44] <seth_k> I'm running it
[05:44] <DonL> warrior_, why?
[05:44] <warrior_> seth_k, true but breezy is very unstable
[05:44] <tiglionabbit> eltino: MSN always has problems.  It's usually MSN's fault
[05:45] <seth_k> eh, it's all in how hard you run it
[05:45] <warrior_> DonL, cause I love speed and compiling
[05:45] <tiglionabbit> eltino: I'm not having problems at the moment though
[05:45] <seth_k> I'm running it on two computers, no problems
[05:45] <seth_k> but I like pain
[05:45] <seth_k> :P
[05:45] <eltino> tiglionabbit: ok, thanks :)
[05:45] <parkbench> bdebbian: i did the modprobe, and entered obviously, and it just goes to next line...am i to assume it registerd?
[05:45] <warrior_> seth_k, no errors?
[05:45] <seth_k> warrior_, sure, but no showstoppers
[05:45] <tiglionabbit> eltino: actually, yes I am, msn could well be down right now
[05:45] <bddebian> parkbench: Sounds like it.  You can verify with "sudo lsmod"
[05:45] <Wegg> Ello
[05:45] <seth_k> warrior_, I can't run the nvidia-glx driver right now (I would have to use the ones from Nvidia's site)
[05:45] <Tsunamii> ok, uncommented - and reloaded the update list
[05:45] <seth_k> warrior_, and some other stuff
[05:45] <Tsunamii> what was that about the other version?
[05:46] <Wegg> Are any of you experienced with Samba?
[05:46] <XhyldazhK> eltino: I have same problem, and I'm almost sure isn't gaim's fault
[05:46] <seth_k> warrior_, but all in all very stable
[05:46] <kertrats> hey, anyone have any idea why Firefox keeps going Back seemingly at random?
[05:46] <seth_k> Tsunamii, did you change warty to hoary, or did you leave it?
[05:46] <warrior_> seth_k, any news on ati drivers on breezy?  haven't seen anything in the forums.
[05:46] <seth_k> kertrats, backspace key acting up?
[05:46] <bddebian> Wegg: Enough to be dangerous, what's up?
[05:46] <Tsunamii> back in the file?
[05:46] <kertrats> not that I know of
[05:46] <DonL> I installed Kstars because I like the program, and I had to install Konqueror because of it. I've tried using Konqy for some stuff and it's sooooo slow
[05:46] <tiglionabbit> kertrats: doesn't happen to us, hitting a key accidentally?
[05:46] <kertrats> it doesnt go off in a word processor
[05:46] <seth_k> warrior_, we're waiting on a new linux-restricted-modules right now
[05:46] <Wegg> Ok I have it installed and set up to share my /home
[05:46] <parkbench> bdebbian: so...thats done. but i do ndiswrapper -l and i still just see lswlusb.inf invalid driver (i shoul djust remove that...)
[05:46] <warrior_> seth_k, they don't have headers yet either do they?
[05:47] <IceDC571> adwait: welcome back
[05:47] <kertrats> nothing on the keyboard, it just keeps going back every few seconds :-|
[05:47] <Wegg> But from my Windows machine . . . when it asks for my name and password it insists on inserting the name of the machine before the username
[05:47] <adwait> ICEDC571: :)...hey
[05:47] <SirGrok> Can someone help me configure my Sound Blaster Audigy card under Ubuntu... I know that there is basically a one line command to get Ubuntu to enable sound, but I can not remeber it for the life of me.
[05:47] <tiglionabbit> kertrats: do you have any extensions installed, such as, perhaps, mouse gestures?
[05:47] <joke> hi
[05:47] <warrior_> SirGrok,
[05:47] <Wegg> so instead of name = blah. . . it does a name = computername/blah
[05:47] <kertrats> nope
[05:47] <Tsunamii> you want me to find and replace all Warty with the other one?
[05:47] <bddebian> parkbench: You shouldn't need ndiswrapper if you use that driver, I don't think
[05:47] <Tsunamii> is that safe?
[05:47] <SirGrok> warrior_,
[05:47] <parkbench> hmm...so should i check my network conifg?
[05:47] <adwait> SirGrok: there is currently no sound on ur ubuntu?
[05:48] <bddebian> parkbench: Yes
[05:48] <SirGrok> Si Si
[05:48] <joke> how do you do
[05:48] <seth_k> nope, breezy has 2.6.12-3.3 linux-headers, warrior_
[05:48] <tiglionabbit> wait what?  Yeah there's sound, just a few problems with it
[05:48] <tiglionabbit> oh
[05:48] <bddebian> Wegg: Is it acting as a domain controller?
[05:48] <SirGrok> adwait, nope. No sound.
[05:48] <warrior_> SirGrok, go to alsamixer slide over to where it says Audigy Analog digital input jack have some music playing and press del on your keypad
[05:48] <parkbench> bdebbian: i checked...still just the grayed out modem conn
[05:48] <adwait> SirFrok: well....hv u enabled the sound? u can check that in system>preferences>sound
[05:48] <Wegg> I don't really know what that is bddebian
[05:48] <Tsunamii> seth_k, if i replace all Warty with Hoary, is that safe?
[05:49] <seth_k> empirically safe
[05:49] <eltino> silly question I guess, but how do I query installed packages? Like, do I have restricted modules installed, and which version?
[05:49] <seth_k> go for it
[05:49] <Tsunamii> empiraically?
[05:49] <bddebian> eltino: dpkg -l
[05:49] <tiglionabbit> adwait: actually, many programs will be more likely to play sound when that is unchecked
[05:49] <eltino> bddebian: thanks
[05:49] <bddebian> Wegg: Hang on a sec
[05:49] <seth_k> Tsunamii, without a doubt it's safe
[05:49] <Tsunamii> rgr
[05:49] <DonL> tiglionabbit, or turned up..
[05:49] <Tsunamii> haory was it ?
[05:49] <seth_k> hoary
[05:49] <Tsunamii> hoary
[05:49] <warrior_> I'm in love with breezy. Where do I get my repository? sign me up
[05:49] <seth_k> haha
[05:49] <tiglionabbit> eltino: it should be listed in synaptic.  Look at the sections available
[05:49] <Tsunamii>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[05:49] <bddebian> parkbench: OK.  What do you get if you do this at the command line:  "devprobe eth0"
[05:49] <Tsunamii> like that?
[05:50] <seth_k> yep
[05:50] <Tsunamii> k
[05:50] <seth_k> change them all
[05:50] <seth_k> :)
[05:50] <adwait> tiglionabbit: those using alsa/oss will do that.......but its not necessary because all my apps play sound fine, and i have the sound server enabled
[05:50] <seth_k> warrior_, your system might die a horrible death
[05:50] <Tsunamii> done
[05:50] <seth_k> :P
[05:50] <Tsunamii> i hope you're right :s
[05:50] <seth_k> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:50] <seth_k> gogogo
[05:50] <warrior_> seth_k, as long as its slow and painful like gentoo was, bring the pain
[05:50] <Tsunamii> what about synaptic?
[05:50] <seth_k> mmmmm pain
[05:50] <parkbench> command not found?
[05:50] <adwait> tiglionabbit: since SirGrok has no sound at all........i am thinking it could be a driver problem, what say?
[05:50] <seth_k> sure, synaptic is fine
[05:50] <SirGrok> warrior_, I havee gotten into there, but hitting delete isn't turning it on... I have found the module you are talking about, and it is off, but delete isn't enableing it.
[05:50] <Tsunamii> ok
[05:50] <Tsunamii> i'll use that
[05:50] <tiglionabbit> adwait: what do you think of this?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063  it made my sounds behave a lot better than they did
[05:50] <seth_k> SirGrok, try M
[05:51] <seth_k> the letter M, that is
[05:51] <Tsunamii> mark all upgrade, ... jesus - this will take long :P
[05:51] <seth_k> jah
[05:51] <seth_k> few hours
[05:51] <parkbench> bddebbian: i tried a ocmmand from the guide; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper, and it difnt give me hostname error but still said operation on ndiswrapper.ko not permitted
[05:51] <SirGrok> seth_k,  IT LIVES!
[05:51] <SirGrok> Thanks.
[05:51] <seth_k> np
[05:51] <SirGrok> I couldn't remeber that one.
[05:51] <warrior_> SirGrok, then go to volume control under sound and video in your menu and choose edit and preferences and turn it on that way
[05:51] <Tsunamii> default upgrade, or smart?
[05:51] <Tsunamii> smart is dist-upgrade
[05:51] <bddebian> Wegg: That must be new to samba.  Can you log in with computername\username or does it fail?
[05:51] <Discipulus> is there an openssl-dev package?
[05:51] <seth_k> smart
[05:52] <Wegg> yea it fails.
[05:52] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: thanks for telling me that, I was wondering
[05:52] <bddebian> Discipulus: "sudo apt-cache search openssl-dev"
[05:52] <adwait> tiglionabbit: i have seen that post.......but when i turned of esd, rhythmbox became a little unstable: ie: whn i hit play, sometimes it would give an error and sometimes play it so i enabled the sound server and configured most apps to use alsa, so now i do have multiple sounds
[05:52] <DonL> In my experience, a Sound Blaster card is recognizable and sets itself up on a reboot
[05:52] <Discipulus> bddebian, already did, nothing showed up
[05:52] <seth_k> Discipulus, I can't find one
[05:52] <Discipulus> seth_k, EncFS is complaining that OpenSSL is required...
[05:52] <Wegg> do I have to create a new samba user account for EVERY machine on the network even though they are all logged in as the same person?
[05:52] <warrior_> DonL, oh it works...it just needs proper settings to make noise come out
[05:52] <tiglionabbit> adwait: can you play two media players at the same time and heard the sound from both of them, mixed?
[05:52] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> which
[05:52] <tiglionabbit> *hear
[05:53] <Discipulus> checking openssl/ssl.h usability... no
[05:53] <Discipulus> checking openssl/ssl.h presence... no
[05:53] <Discipulus> checking for openssl/ssl.h... no
[05:53] <Discipulus> configure: error: Encfs requires OpenSSL
[05:53] <DonL> warrior_, , ok
[05:53] <bddebian> Discipulus: It might be libssl-dev?
[05:53] <tiglionabbit> Discipulus: do not paste here
[05:53] <adwait> tiglionabbit: yup..........and in addition, ubuntu sounds worked too....which wouldnt work with the method in that post
[05:53] <Tsunamii> whoops, forgot to find the nvidia glx
[05:53] <warrior_> SirGrok, did that do it?
[05:53] <eno__> thanks folks
[05:53] <seth_k> tiglionabbit, meh, 4 lines.
[05:53] <tiglionabbit> adwait: whoa, really?  Dude tell me how
[05:53] <Discipulus> tiglionabbit, I was under the impression pasting was OK in any channel as long as it was 4 lines or under....
[05:53] <seth_k> what's the matter Tsunamii?
[05:53] <tiglionabbit> Discipulus: heh sorry
[05:53] <Tsunamii> forgot to look for nvidia glx, and tick it
[05:53] <adwait> tiglionabbit: well.....i did everything mentioned in that post..just tht i turned the sound server back on
[05:54] <Tsunamii> it's downloading the rest atm ;p
[05:54] <seth_k> no worries
[05:54] <seth_k> do it after the upgrade
[05:54] <Tsunamii> yeah
[05:54] <tiglionabbit> adwait: so did I, but there's this odd behavior
[05:54] <seth_k> better to upgrade first, then install things later anyways
[05:54] <seth_k> you did fine
[05:54] <DonL> I must go now. You people are sooooo cool. I always feel welcome and enjoy being here. Good night
[05:54] <bddebian> parkbench: What is in /etc/network/interfaces file?
[05:54] <Tsunamii> 15 minutes, jesus - time to find something to eat
[05:54] <doonz> whats that command used to instal a deb package?
[05:54] <warrior_> later DonL
[05:54] <bddebian> dooglus: dpkg -i
[05:54] <Xenguy> doonz: dpkg -i
[05:54] <chuckums57> how do i change the bios shared video memory
[05:54] <ksmurf> brb
[05:54] <doonz> thats what it is
[05:54] <doonz> thnx
[05:54] <doonz> was trying -install
[05:54] <Discipulus> bddebian, downloading it now, thanks
[05:55] <tiglionabbit> adwait: if I run beep-media-player, and then run amarok, I can play sound in amarok fine, but if I click play in beep-media-player it hangs until I close amarok, and then it begins playing
[05:55] <grunge> iiiiiiiiiiii
[05:55] <warrior_> the anticipation is killing me
[05:55] <warrior_> I need to know if it worked
[05:55] <parkbench> bddebian: there's a note then iface lo inet loopback
[05:55] <tiglionabbit> adwait: what should I be doing?
[05:55] <adwait> tiglionabbit: i dont use any of those really.........but i would i say configure one to use alsa and the other to use esd...
[05:55] <grunge> shs
[05:56] <grunge> kimak
[05:56] <tiglionabbit> adwait: give me an example of two media players at once that you use?
[05:56] <IceDC571> ahh.. xchat-gnome is fast.. im impressed
[05:56] <chuckums57> how do i change the bios shared video memory
[05:56] <chuckums57> ???
[05:56] <bddebian> parkbench: OK.  What do you get if you type "dhclient" on the command line?
[05:56] <adwait> tiglionabbit: i hv set xmms to use alsa, and rhythmbox to use esd
[05:56] <grunge> hai
[05:57] <warrior_> haha
[05:57] <tiglionabbit> adwait: after I did that stuff, when I try to run xmms, it does nothing...   there is no error or anything printed to terminal, but nothing launches...
[05:57] <parkbench> buncha stuff, unknown hardware adderss, no such device, receive packet on wlan0 failed network is down,
[05:57] <grunge> hai shawarna
[05:58] <adwait> tiglionabbit: hmm...thts odd......it didnt make any difference when i did all the stuff in the post.......
[05:58] <bddebian> parkbench: That's OK, at least the program is installed
[05:58] <tiglionabbit> adwait: what could be happening to my xmms, wtf
[05:58] <parkbench> i see
[05:58] <adwait> tiglionabbit: umm i dunno...maybe u can temporarily turn the sound server off and see if it starts?
[05:58] <grunge> hai
[05:59] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> uiii
[05:59] <tiglionabbit> adwait: nope...    is there any way to track an application?  This is weird, I don't know what it's doing
[05:59] <JesusOfSuburbia> I was wondering if Ubuntu has any built in Server Tools, and if not what tools would be reccomended
[05:59] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> taik mu grunggek
[05:59] <Xenguy> JesusOfSuburbia: example?
[06:00] <adwait> tiglionabbit: not that i know off......haven't been using *nix for a very long time :)
[06:00] <tiglionabbit> adwait: I'm going to paste what gdb says to #flood
[06:00] <bddebian> Wegg: Sorry.  You might have to create computer accounts yes but not user accounts.  You should be able to run in peer mode though and not use Samba as a PDC.
[06:00] <JesusOfSuburbia> Xenguy, What do you mean? I want to run it off a Pentium II 266mhz, but it dont want to go through the hassle of installing it unless i can use it as a server
[06:00] <parkbench> bddebian: so, thats 'working...' any idea on where to go from here? :/
[06:00] <adwait> tiglionabbit: i am there
[06:00] <grunge> hai
[06:01] <bddebian> parkbench: try "iwconfig"  Does that work?
[06:01] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> oi9 grunggek
[06:01] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> taikmulah edi
[06:01] <parkbench> yeah
[06:01] <parkbench> and it says no wireless extensions in any of the three
[06:01] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> ui ko bila nak keluar
[06:01] <Xenguy> JesusOfSuburbia: no, what do you mean? The question was one of clarification :-) Linux is perfect for a server, but again, details would help.  For example, what service(s) do you want to run?
[06:01] <tiglionabbit> adwait: pretty messed, eh?  I think I'll reinstall it or something
[06:01] <doonz> anyone got a few seconds to help me get dma enabled on my 2 burners
[06:02] <chuckums57> i have a question
[06:02] <tiglionabbit> chuckums57: that's what we're here for
[06:02] <chuckums57> how do i change the bios shared video memory
[06:02] <adwait> tiglionabbit: i guess a reinstall wouldn't harm........but dunno if itll solve ur problem :)
[06:02] <warrior_> I'm assuming SirGrok got it fixed
[06:03] <warrior_> tiglionabbit, it happens
[06:03] <tiglionabbit> bios shared video memory?  wtf?
[06:03] <doonz> Well mebbe you can help me
[06:03] <doonz> i tied following the guide for enabling dma but im getting an out put
[06:03] <doonz> tried*
[06:04] <grunge> hai ipih
[06:04] <warrior_> chuckums57, go into bios and look around
[06:04] <chuckums57> i cant get my res out of 6xx by 4xx
[06:04] <warrior_> thats an xorg problem
[06:04] <seth_k> chuckum57, that sounds more like an xorg.conf issue
[06:04] <tiglionabbit> what's dma?
[06:04] <seth_k> you don't happen to have an intel chipset?
[06:04] <chuckums57> i do
[06:04] <warrior_> we have a winner
[06:04] <seth_k> hah
[06:04] <seth_k> i win
[06:04] <grunge> bionic
[06:04] <adwait> tiglionabbit: dierct memory access
[06:04] <tiglionabbit> chuckums57: is this a video resolution question?
[06:04] <chuckums57> ya
[06:05] <SirGrok> warrior_, Yes. M was the answer. Thanks.
[06:05] <seth_k> what monitor do you have, chuckums57? You will need to put some values into xorg.conf
[06:05] <chuckums57> i looked up my question and it said to increase the video memory
[06:05] <warrior_> not a problem, glad it worked.  Took me three weeks to figure that out :D
[06:05] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> grunggek
[06:05] <SirGrok> Hehe... Luckily I have people like you to figure it out before me ;-)
[06:05] <chuckums57> ok
[06:05] <seth_k> doonz: the command for enabling dma is hdparm -d 1 /dev/whatever
[06:05] <chuckums57> thankyou
[06:06] <seth_k> erm
[06:06] <doonz> i did that but its saying not permitted
[06:06] <seth_k> sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/whatever
[06:06] <warrior_> it feels good to help someone
[06:06] <SirGrok> I just had to afro-engineer a fix for my apt-get problem.
[06:06] <warrior_> whos next
[06:06] <seth_k> gotta use sudo
[06:06] <grunge> hai
[06:06] <seth_k> haha, you savvy Afrotech Mods?
[06:06] <seth_k> that site is hilarious
[06:06] <SirGrok> Oh, hells yes.
[06:06] <doonz> i am using sudo
[06:06] <SirGrok> Yeah it is.
[06:06] <SirGrok> I show everyone.
[06:06] <bddebian> parkbench: What do you get if you run: "sudo ifconfig -a" ?
[06:06] <seth_k> and still not permitted, maybe it doesn't support dma?
[06:07] <doonz> they do tho
[06:07] <SirGrok> I want to major in afro-engineering.
[06:07] <tiglionabbit> SirGrok: you mean like, hair-styling?
[06:07] <doonz> cause dma was on them when they were in my windows box
[06:07] <SirGrok> tiglionabbit, no I mean coming up with ghetto solutions to problems.
[06:07] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> ui edi
[06:08] <seth_k> heh, somebody find the link to afrotech
[06:08] <grunge> kimakmu
[06:08] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> taIK MULAH
[06:08] <grunge> hendri
[06:08] <grunge> laso
[06:08] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> JANGAN KO MACAM3
[06:08] <warrior_> anybody here a fan of bash.org?
[06:08] <adwait> tiglionabbit: did u reinstall? any luck?
[06:08] <grunge> fak
[06:09] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> UI SAMPE BILA KO DISINI
[06:09] <bddebian> parkbench: You still with me?
[06:09] <seth_k> grunge, LoNeLy^sTyLo, stop spamming the channel
[06:09] <Discipulus> alien to change RPM to deb right?
[06:09] <seth_k> yep
[06:09] <tiglionabbit> adwait: nope
[06:09] <SirGrok> warrior_, I frequent bash.
[06:09] <grunge> mampus kamu semua .................
[06:09] <SirGrok> But I am much more a fan of fark
[06:09] <Xenguy> Discipulus: last resort
[06:09] <tiglionabbit> adwait: still dies with no message
[06:09] <Discipulus> alright, cool
[06:09] <seth_k> and alien -i to automatically install the deb that alien generates
[06:09] <Wegg> Is there a better system monitor than. . . System Monitor?  I'd like to see network bandidth.
[06:09] <grunge> jangan marah ya
[06:09] <Xenguy> Discipulus: tarballs with checkinstall are better IMHO
[06:10] <Discipulus> seth_k, it's a source .rpm
[06:10] <parkbench> hmm...
[06:10] <seth_k> hmm
[06:10] <seth_k> grunge, stop it
[06:10] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> JUST KIDDING
[06:10] <Xenguy> Discipulus: which app?
[06:10] <SirGrok> I am going to go for a fun little log-in and log out. Cya in a bit
[06:10] <Discipulus> Xenguy, can't find a tarball for it :'(
[06:10] <grunge> no
[06:10] <Discipulus> Xenguy, librlog
[06:10] <chuckums57> how do i boost the amount of video memory my comp recognizes
[06:10] <chuckums57> ??
[06:10] <bddebian> parkbench: ??
[06:10] <tiglionabbit> chuckums57: get the right kernel and video drivers?
[06:10] <grunge> no phone
[06:10] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> marahkah sorry ya
[06:10] <hyphenated> Wegg: there's plenty of monitoring tools. I personally use gkrellm to show me what the machine's doing. according to some people, that makes me gay :-)
[06:11] <warrior_> chuckums57, unfortunately its sharing memory already so you'd lose performance in other areas
[06:11] <grunge> arnia hai
[06:11] <warrior_> such as ram
[06:11] <chuckums57> thtats ok
[06:11] <Xenguy> Discipulus: are you sure that isn't packaged already tho?
[06:11] <Discipulus> yep
[06:11] <Discipulus> already looked
[06:11] <grunge> jawab la ba
[06:11] <grunge> gila
[06:11] <Wegg> I'd like to be gay too. . .
[06:11] <Wegg> :-)
[06:11] <chuckums57> so how do i do it
[06:11] <grunge> setan
[06:12] <warrior_> chuckums57, :D ok well do you know anything about overclocking ram
[06:12] <bddebian> seth_k: :-)
[06:12] <parkbench> bddebian: i said, it works, but there is no extension for each of the three thigns
[06:12] <chuckums57> a bit
[06:12] <warrior_> chuckums57, skip and and purchase a video card
[06:12] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> ijust want suck
[06:12] <bddebian> parkbench: The "ifconfig -a" works?
[06:12] <Brunellus> any xfce4 users here?
[06:12] <chuckums57> ok
[06:12] <seth_k> let's see, nalioth idle, crimsun away
[06:12] <seth_k> :/
[06:12] <parkbench> err, didnt see that
[06:12] <grunge> gila'''''''''''........
[06:12] <chuckums57> thanks for your time
[06:12] <hyphenated> Wegg: there's plenty to choose from, but I stuck with gkrellm, so I don't know what others use or how well it compares to other programs
[06:12] <Brunellus> I think I've just lost my XFCE panel.... I didn't do anything but restart!
[06:12] <warrior_> chuckums57, also, if you want to stay with linux go nvidia
[06:13] <warrior_> well he'll never get that
[06:13] <seth_k> heh
[06:13] <grunge> hai
[06:13] <parkbench> er, it...lists some stuff
[06:13] <seth_k> truer words never spoken though
[06:13] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> stop it....(:
[06:13] <grunge> lambatnya
[06:13] <warrior_> seth_k, did we solve any of his problems?
[06:14] <peet> has anyone used cedega?
[06:14] <seth_k> he doesn't stay around long enough
[06:14] <warrior_> peet, I own it
[06:14] <grunge> seth mampus kau
[06:14] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> hi hih
[06:14] <Tsunamii> so what's so good about hoary?
[06:14] <seth_k> nalioth_wrkn, ping?
[06:14] <peet> warrior_: how is it and what video card do you use it with
[06:14] <seth_k> it's newer
[06:14] <grunge> haaaaaaaaa..
[06:14] <Tsunamii> ooer
[06:14] <warrior_> I use an X800 and using it is sometimes like bleeding
[06:14] <grunge> apa
[06:14] <warrior_> but it does the job
[06:14] <parkbench> bddebian: any details in particular from the lsit you want?
[06:14] <Tsunamii> 4 minutes left D:
[06:15] <warrior_> I've been using it to play counter-strike source
[06:15] <peet> warrior_: what do you mean bleeding :(
[06:15] <peet> warrior_: doesn't sound too good
[06:15] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> ko will this suck
[06:15] <warrior_> peet, some games, such as far cry, are hard to install.  But others are a breeze like hl2.  It depends on what cedega is working on
[06:15] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> u don want me
[06:15] <Discipulus> hmm
[06:15] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> pi
[06:15] <Discipulus> where does a src rpm install itself too?
[06:15] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> koool
[06:15] <adwait> lonely^stylo: ????
[06:16] <peet> warrior_: but performancewise its fine right?
[06:16] <bddebian> Do you need yenta_sockets for USB wireless cards??
[06:16] <IceDC571> um i think a bunch of kids just walked into the channel
[06:16] <adwait> discipulus: /usr/src/rpm methinks.......
[06:16] <warrior_> peet, if you're talking about all the tuning and settings no, but speed wise yes
[06:16] <rob^> does the ubuntu kernel have LUFS support built in?
[06:16] <warrior_> peet, as long as you're not anistrophix 8x and all that other high end stuff it will run great
[06:17] <grunge> pi lonely
[06:17] <warrior_> peet, I have the lowest lag of any cs:source room I go into :-D
[06:17] <jasmuz> warrior_: how about UT the win version?
[06:17] <grunge> apa yu
[06:17] <peet> warrior_: obviously because linux rules :0
[06:17] <Tsunamii> btw, does ubuntu require a firewall?
[06:17] <peet> warrior_: :) do you know anything about nvidia crds?
[06:17] <warrior_> jasmuz, the original UT?
[06:17] <Tsunamii> is are linux os pretty much safe?
[06:17] <jasmuz> warrior_: or Hitman2?
[06:17] <Discipulus> I found it!
[06:17] <warrior_> peet, I do
[06:18] <grunge> lonelt mampus makan taik...............
[06:18] <warrior_> peet, I ran an nvidia 5500
[06:18] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> grunge
[06:18] <grunge> apa ..
[06:18] <Discipulus> it put a .tgz in /
[06:18] <warrior_> peet, nvidia works so so so so much better
[06:18] <drew> anybody here now who can help me w/ alsa and xmms?
[06:18] <peet> warrior_: if i bought a 6600gt would i be satisfied? (currently use a 9800pro)
[06:18] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> wat u say
[06:18] <Xenguy> Tsunamii: if you are not running services, then maybe you don't need a firewall
[06:18] <seth_k> peet, mmmmmm 6600gt
[06:18] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> i did no
[06:18] <Tsunamii> peet, neg - you'd want a 68GT
[06:18] <grunge> apa2 je
[06:18] <jasmuz> warrior_: yes, the original UT and Hitman2
[06:18] <Brunellus> gah.  where's my XFCEpanel gone?!
[06:18] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> akalah
[06:18] <warrior_> peet, depends on the game but yes it would be adequate for almost any game
[06:18] <Tsunamii> Xenguy, by that you mean?
[06:18] <peet> Tsunamii: is there one slot solutions for 6800gt?
[06:18] <jasmuz> drew: what is the issue?
[06:19] <Tsunamii> yeah, there is
[06:19] <warrior_> jasmuz, I have not installed either of those but I do have hitman contracts and ut2004 installed
[06:19] <Tsunamii> 66GT isn't much different from 98Pro
[06:19] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> ko punya sejarah sudah siapkah
[06:19] <peet> warrior_: hmm yeaso how much does cedega cost
[06:19] <Tsunamii> just that, you'd want a PCI e 16x slot for the 68GT
[06:19] <drew> jasmuz, my xmms stutters when it tries to play in alsa
[06:19] <grunge> sapa ni
[06:19] <peet> Tsunamii: ooooh an athlon64 system :)
[06:19] <jasmuz> warrior_: i have UT2003 and it sucks
[06:19] <warrior_> peet, $15 to start and 5 dollars a month after that (goes to developing it and is worth it to me)
[06:19] <drew> jasmuz, it stutters terribly
[06:19] <Xenguy> Tsunamii: OTOH a firewall is never really a *bad* idea; 'shorewall' is a good firewall script.  So is 'firehol' I hear
[06:19] <parkbench> jasmuz: i liked ut2k3, and its successor
[06:19] <grunge> ........../////"????????? ha 2
[06:20] <pressure_man> argh. shorewall is terrible!
[06:20] <jasmuz> drew: are you using alsa as the default on Gnome?
[06:20] <seth_k> peet, but you don't *have* to keep subscribing if you don't want to
[06:20] <warrior_> jasmuz, well thats because they rushed production od ut2k3
[06:20] <Tsunamii> OTOH?
[06:20] <Xenguy> pressure_man: nonsense
[06:20] <Tsunamii> on top of my head?
[06:20] <Xenguy> on the other hand
[06:20] <drew> jasmuz, what?
[06:20] <Tsunamii> rihgt :P
[06:20] <Tsunamii> right
[06:20] <adwait> drew: wht if u use esd?
[06:20] <peet> warrior_: can you install other apps like office and photoshop in particular?
[06:20] <Brunellus> anyone running xfce?
[06:20] <pressure_man> it produces the ~least~ efficient iptables script i've ever seen in my life
[06:20] <peet> warrior_: easily(
[06:20] <seth_k> peet, you'll just lose access to upgrades
[06:20] <warrior_> jasmuz, ut2k4 has a linux installer so you don
[06:20] <warrior_> jasmuz, need cedega for ut2004
[06:20] <Tsunamii> woot, it's applying the updates =]
[06:20] <peet> seth_k: you mean to the windows apps?
[06:20] <warrior_> peet, use wine its free
[06:20] <pressure_man> it forces all traffic to traverse all chains before finally going into the chain where it gets filtered!
[06:20] <seth_k> peet, no, to cedega
[06:20] <Xenguy> pressure_man: I disagree - the author is a professional, and many swear by it
[06:20] <IceDC571> what?!? you need cedega for ut2004? w
[06:20] <seth_k> peet, if you want office apps, not games, use wine
[06:20] <IceDC571> right.....
[06:20] <peet> warrior_: wine is a pain to isntall (at least on gentoo)
[06:20] <pressure_man> the author is clearly an amateur
[06:21] <peet> seth_k: i have tried wine i don't lik eit :(
[06:21] <adwait> peet: wht isnt?
[06:21] <adwait> :d
[06:21] <warrior_> peet, little easier with debian I promise
[06:21] <tiglionabbit> peet: it's on apt
[06:21] <IceDC571> don't judge wine until you get it to work right
[06:21] <drew> adwait, I don't get any sound w/ esd
[06:21] <seth_k> peet, for office apps, cedega is no better than wine
[06:21] <Xenguy> pressure_man: do you write firewalls for a living?
[06:21] <pressure_man> just look at the script it generates, and you will see how much timewasting the packets do as they traverse useless chains that will never match those packets
[06:21] <peet> seth_k: really? :(
[06:21] <seth_k> peet, cedega's real advantage is its directX stuff
[06:21] <Tsunamii> wine? windows emulator?
[06:21] <seth_k> yep
[06:21] <Tsunamii> why would you do that on linux
[06:21] <seth_k> sudo aptitude install wine
[06:21] <adwait> drew: hmm.....do u hv the sound server enabled in system>preferences>sound?
[06:21] <warrior_> isn't there a quemu?
[06:21] <peet> so is installing apps the same difficulty as with wine?
[06:21] <seth_k> because there are specialized programs that have no linux versions?
[06:22] <peet> on cedega*
[06:22] <jasmuz> warrior_: my UT2k3 came with a linux installer too
[06:22] <jasmuz> warrior_: but i have an onboard videocard, without accel sigh :(
[06:22] <bddebian> parkbench: Do you have a /proc/net/wireless file?
[06:22] <Tsunamii> oh
[06:22] <seth_k> office apps, yes
[06:22] <pressure_man> not for a living, but i am a cisco, netscreen/juniper and proxim certified network engineer, so i know a thing or two about firewalls
[06:22] <drew> I need alsa
[06:22] <seth_k> games, easier
[06:22] <drew> I want it to work so that I can get 5.1 to work.
[06:22] <seth_k> Tsunamii, I run a stats program called Fathom that is Windows-only
[06:22] <Tsunamii> i see
[06:22] <tiglionabbit> why would you want to use windows office apps?
[06:22] <warrior_> jasmuz, stuck on a rowboat with no oars.  I'm sorry to hear that.  ut2004 runs flawlessly with settings maxed out
[06:22] <peet> seth_k: is wineX better than cedega?
[06:22] <tiglionabbit> there's plenty of office apps for linux
[06:22] <Xenguy> pressure_man: I think yer on crack, but whatever - pick yer poison :-)
[06:22] <warrior_> peet, no
[06:22] <vladuz976> can someone tell me how i add multiverse?
[06:22] <peet> warrior_: ut2k4 has a native linux install file ont he cd
[06:22] <seth_k> vladuz976: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:22] <IceDC571> oh god, i've had enough with aMSN
[06:23] <IceDC571> i hate Qt
[06:23] <seth_k> vladuz976, and uncomment the multiverse lines
[06:23] <jasmuz> warrior_: i envy you
[06:23] <warrior_> vladuz976, go to http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:23] <peet> warrior_: and performance on my rig (2500+ / 9800-ro) was abysmal
[06:23] <pressure_man> Xenguy: i personally don't give a sh*t what you think i'm on, but don't go giving wrong advice to newbies about firewalls
[06:23] <seth_k> noooooooo, not the ubuntuguide
[06:23] <tiglionabbit> seth_k: are you sure there are multiverse lines?
[06:23] <seth_k> there are on mine
[06:23] <warrior_> peet, yea it does, thats how I have it installed
[06:23] <tiglionabbit> seth_k: ubuntuguide is a good reference for the repositories though
[06:23] <IceDC571> so there's no gtk based msn client?
[06:23] <warrior_> peet, so does quake 3
[06:23] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[06:23] <ubotu> methinks repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:23] <peet> warrior_: but the performance was terrible
[06:23] <Xenguy> pressure_man: I think you're wrong - so take your own bad advice elsewhere, K?
[06:23] <peet> warrior_: like truly truly terrible
[06:23] <parkbench> bddebian: yeah, isnide theres some sor tof table
[06:23] <jasmuz> anybody here own a Sharp Zaurus SL5500 or 5600?
[06:24] <warrior_> peet, was it on gentoo?
[06:24] <pressure_man> the only thing worse than poort security is the misconception of good security
[06:24] <seth_k> tiglionabbit, but then he might read the rest of it
[06:24] <peet> warrior_: yeat it was
[06:24] <Xenguy> pressure_man: You're actually the first person I've *ever* seen speak ill of 'shorewall'
[06:24] <seth_k> 3. Do NOT recommend people to use ubuntuguide.org
[06:24] <bddebian> parkbench: Just for grins, try:  "sudo ifconfig wlan0"
[06:24] <peet> warrior_: im doing a stage 3 instlal of ubuntu right now haha, i run ubunutu on my other comp
[06:24] <warrior_> peet, gentoo is like grave digging, once in the hole with no ladder getting out is tough
[06:24] <pressure_man> Xenguy: the kind of people who use shorewall are the kind of people who can't write iptables scripts by hand
[06:24] <peet> warrior_: gentoo*
[06:24] <parkbench> shows a table with a whole lotta 0
[06:24] <parkbench> s
[06:24] <Xenguy> pressure_man: nonsense (and we're back where we began ;-)
[06:24] <pressure_man> Xenguy: so, i wouldn't take their opinion with a lot of consideration
[06:25] <warrior_> peet, ubuntu is the smartest choice for simple setup
[06:25] <Xenguy> pressure_man: nuff said (this is not going anywhere useful)
[06:25] <warrior_> peet, my 3d acceleration took 10 minutes
[06:25] <warrior_> on ati
[06:25] <adwait> *wishes
[06:25] <pressure_man> Xenguy: tell me then, what is the point of packets traversing chains they are never going to match?
[06:25] <jasmuz> anybody here own a Sharp Zaurus SL5500 or 5600?
[06:25] <LoNeLy^sTyLo> i wish8
[06:25] <peet> warrior_: well i got my ati drivers setup in about that time too but the performance sucked :(
[06:25] <warrior_> why not ubuntuguide?
[06:25] <Xenguy> pressure_man: take it to the shorewall list - I'm done now.
[06:25] <pressure_man> it just wastes kernel time and slows network performance
[06:25] <James686> ok, I just installed Ubuntu and it doesnt find my hardware for some reason so I cant go on it, how can I fix that?
[06:26] <seth_k> > Ubuntuguide.org presents wrong solutions, ranging from suboptimal solutions to pure regressions.
[06:26] <seth_k> > Ubuntuguide.org is not really a guide, but a mere list of command you might enter. It gives no explanations at all
[06:26] <seth_k> > All information on Ubuntuguide.org is present on the wiki in clearer and better form
[06:26] <tiglionabbit> warrior_: because it doesn't explain to people what things do and why.
[06:26] <James686> do I have to take everything out of the computer and put them back in?
[06:26] <adwait> James866: a little more specificcation perhaps? wht hardware/
[06:26] <pressure_man> if you ever have to look after a box that needs to move traffic faster than DSL speeds, you'll know what i'm on about.
[06:26] <absinthe> Someone reccomend some good online poker? Multiplayer
[06:26] <tiglionabbit> absinthe: um, yahoo?
[06:26] <James686> graphics card, and it says it skipps some of the files during installation, its hard to explain cuz its too much...
[06:26] <warrior_> tiglionabbit, true, but most beginners just want things to work
[06:26] <adwait> absinthe: in what concievable way is this related to ubuntu?
[06:26] <warrior_> tiglionabbit, nqa
[06:27] <tiglionabbit> warrior_: yeah yeah, but uh, wiki when possible.
[06:27] <absinthe> adwait, I'm using Ubuntu. Geez
[06:27] <tiglionabbit> warrior_: ubotu is generally right
[06:27] <warrior_> tiglionabbit, I'll agree with that
[06:27] <Tsunamii> do i have to worry about spyware and adaware on Ubuntu? :P
[06:27] <adwait> James686: ok well, if it can't see ur graphic card properly, try downloading drivers from ur manufacturers site
[06:27] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: no
[06:27] <Tsunamii> :D
[06:27] <peet> Tsunamii: yes you do :b
[06:27] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: as long as you don't log in to X as root
[06:27] <James686> how can I if I have a wireless network?
[06:27] <Xenguy> Tsunamii: no, just rootkits ;-)
[06:28] <warrior_> ads on the other hand....
[06:28] <Tsunamii> so I can pretty much expect full performance on Ubuntu?
[06:28] <Xenguy> Tsunamii: couldn't resist
[06:28] <adwait> does anyone know anything about how DMZ works? i need to run a http server on my comp, but the router firewall keeps blocking it
[06:28] <seth_k> Tsunamii: it's my primary OS, it better give me full performance
[06:28] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: once you have the correct kernel build, yes
[06:28] <Tsunamii> lol
[06:28] <warrior_> I love firefox's adblock and flashblock
[06:28] <peet> anyone here running reiser4?
[06:28] <MrJangles> what is the default chmod for /usr?
[06:28] <Xenguy> warrior_: gawd yes
[06:28] <Tsunamii> great, means more memory for me
[06:28] <Tsunamii> and less cpu usage
[06:28] <James686> so, any help?
[06:29] <warrior_> Xenguy, that stuff is so awesome.  Have you installed prefbar yet?
[06:29] <seth_k> drwxr-xr-x   12 root root 4.0K 2005-06-05 02:28 usr
[06:29] <Tsunamii> then have to port my proggies to Ubuntu ;o
[06:29] <Xenguy> warrior_: not yet
[06:29] <warrior_> peet, reiser4 on ubuntu is a bad idea right now
[06:29] <warrior_> peet, wait for breezy
[06:29] <bddebian> James686: I didn't understand your question
[06:29] <tiglionabbit> MrJangles: drwxr-xr-x   aka `chmod 755
[06:29] <peet> warrior_: so reiser4 is going to be in ubuntu?!
[06:29] <peet> !!
[06:29] <ubotu> peet: Are you smoking crack?
[06:29] <warrior_> Xenguy, I used prefbar to go to internet explorer only pages
[06:29] <peet> ubotu: what doyou mean?
[06:29] <ubotu> peet: Are you smoking crack?
[06:29] <peet> ubotu: i'm not why?
[06:29] <ubotu> peet: I don't know
[06:30] <adwait> lol
[06:30] <MrJangles> i've changed the permission of that to 744 (=\), and i cant change it back
[06:30] <warrior_> :D
[06:30] <peet> hehe
[06:30] <Tsunamii> sudo ?
[06:30] <Xenguy> warrior_: I'll watch for it then
[06:30] <James686> Ubuntu wont install properly, certain files skip being installed or whatever and it doesnt find any hardware...Im sry I cant explain...
[06:30] <peet> reiser4 is really fast but i wanna know how stable it is :)
[06:30] <tiglionabbit> MrJangles: `sudo chmod 755 \usr`
[06:30] <warrior_> peet, lets get your 3d drivers working first and your system at top end
[06:30] <MrJangles> substitute user?
[06:30] <peet> warrior_: okok :)
[06:30] <warrior_> then explore reiser4
[06:30] <adwait> James686: does ubuntu get installed? does it start?
[06:30] <MrJangles> just making sure i'm not all that lost hehe
[06:30] <peet> warrior_: now im torn
[06:30] <tiglionabbit> MrJangles: no, don't you mean the \usr directory?
[06:30] <James686> the X server does
[06:31] <James686> not the desktop
[06:31] <warrior_> peet, why?
[06:31] <peet> warrior_: im doing a stage3 gentoo right now but im wondering if i should do ubuntu or debian
[06:31] <peet> warrior_: ^
[06:31] <adwait> James686: the xserver starts but not ur desktop? as in u can see the login screen but can't login?
[06:31] <James686> yes
[06:31] <Tsunamii> it's going to be a b*tch to get all my windows programs to work on this isn't it? :P
[06:31] <adwait> James686: when u login, what happens?
[06:31] <warrior_> peet, personally I was on gentoo and had so many errors I went back to what I was good at.  And its debian.  Portage is spectacular but I'll take debian any day
[06:31] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: find alternatives
[06:31] <MrJangles> bash: sudo.... ?
[06:31] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: what programs do you need?
[06:31] <James686> it says somethin like New Mail
[06:31] <Tsunamii> STEAM
[06:31] <Tsunamii> Photoshop
[06:32] <Tsunamii> that's the basic need
[06:32] <Tsunamii> ftp software
[06:32] <Tsunamii> and yeah - that's really on what i operate
[06:32] <pressure_man> Tsunami: photoshop [06:32] <Tsunamii> yeah?
[06:32] <warrior_> Tsunamii, you'll need cedega for steam
[06:32] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: cedega supports steam, crossoveroffice supports Photoshop, and linux has many native ftp programs
[06:32] <Tsunamii> but photohop CS2, i need :P
[06:32] <adwait> James686: huh? are u logging in failsafe terminal mode? and please add my name to each message meant for me, its hard to see each message meant for me with all these messages going around :)
[06:32] <peet> warrior_:  what would you recommend for a GAMING LINUX OS
[06:32] <pressure_man> CS2? does that run real slow for you too?
[06:32] <warrior_> peet, I game on ubuntu right now.
[06:32] <Tsunamii> cedega eh?
[06:32] <Tsunamii> nah, runs fine for me
[06:33] <pressure_man> lucky...
[06:33] <Tsunamii> is Cedega easy to operate?
[06:33] <pressure_man> i'm going back to CS. something is really wrong with CS2.
[06:33] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: should be, it costs money
[06:33] <Tsunamii> ouch
[06:33] <Tsunamii> that won't do :P
[06:33] <IceDC571> pshh.. cedega isnt free
[06:33] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: a monthly subscription in fact
[06:33] <Tsunamii> what about Wine ?
[06:33] <tiglionabbit> 5 bucks a month
[06:33] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: free
[06:33] <IceDC571> wine is free as in freedom
[06:33] <Tsunamii> but buggy?
[06:33] <IceDC571> not at all
[06:33] <warrior_> peet, I know what you're looking for and you've looked at every OS to find it.  You want something as good or better than windows for gaming.  Linux can be anything you want it to be
[06:33] <IceDC571> depends how you use it
[06:33] <peet> Tsunamii: its not expensive less than a mmorpg
[06:33] <seth_k> Tsunamii, Cedega has amazing forum-based support. but you'll pay for the privilege
[06:34] <Tsunamii> I don't have credit card access
[06:34] <MrJangles> 'bash: sudo: command not found'
[06:34] <Tsunamii> I like to find free alternatives =]
[06:34] <James686> adwait: I dont know what Im logging into, just the Xserver I guess...
[06:34] <tiglionabbit> MrJangles: zomg, that is not good, are you sure you are using ubuntu here?
[06:34] <James686> it always comes up upon boot
[06:34] <ShamblyHermit> Ubuntu can't find my network card :(
[06:34] <peet> warrior_: ive tried FC3 redhat mandrake debian and getnoo and a little bit ubuntu
[06:34] <peet> :(
[06:34] <MrJangles> just installed 5.04 today
[06:34] <warrior_> I pay for cedega and its worth the money
[06:35] <MrJangles> let me restart and see what happens
[06:35] <eltino> just installed 5.04 one hour ago :)
[06:35] <peet> warrior_: how ofsten do you use windows
[06:35] <IceDC571> i dont pay for developers who profit off of a stolen code
[06:35] <warrior_> peet, the 5th of never
[06:35] <seth_k> I tried cedega CVS once (free version), it was pretty poor
[06:35] <tiglionabbit> MrJangles: you should definately have sudo installed.  Are you not an admin user?
[06:35] <warrior_> peet, I hate windows like I hate my car (personal reason)
[06:35] <peet> warrior_: even for games? hat about office
[06:35] <adwait> James686: ok......when u login, what do u see? do u see the desktop? or do u just see a terminal screen on a blue background?
[06:35] <peet> warrior_: i dont like windows either
[06:35] <warrior_> peet, open office is what I use and games with cedega run for me
[06:35] <Tsunamii> Linux has the blue screen of death? ;o
[06:35] <freddy_> *yawn*
[06:35] <MrJangles> i wasnt, i did 'su' and it gave me a pass error. lol one sec
[06:36] <James686> I just see a black background w/ white text...
[06:36] <peet> warrior_: but openoffice can't view microsoft office docs with objects properly
[06:36] <seth_k> I use the right tool for the job. Sometimes windows is the right tool. I don't have time to spend tweaking games to run, I just want them to work. So a tiny windows partition is just fine
[06:36] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: it has a screensaver called BSOD which allows you to watch different OSs crash in 21 unique ways
[06:36] <peet> tiglionabbit: i know it scared my roomates :)
[06:36] <warrior_> peet, you are absolutely correct and no windows machine can read linux docs
[06:36] <Tsunamii> umm, what's the URL to where i can paste things?
[06:36] <Tsunamii> need help :P
[06:36] <warrior_> peet, but I'm in college and as long as I can print my doc its just as good as windows
[06:36] <adwait> James686: ok then i think ur logging into failsafe mode.......(should be coloured actually.but whatever).......anyway, at the login screen, at the bottom right there is a button says "session" try changing the session to gnome and the nlogin
[06:36] <tiglionabbit> warrior_: well it can if you use fat32
[06:36] <jasoncohen> will beagle work from backports?
[06:37] <warrior_> tiglionabbit, tricky trick
[06:37] <peet> warrior_: but have you tried to get ms office to work on your nix machine?
[06:37] <Tsunamii> seth_k, I need the paste URL :P
[06:37] <IceDC571> i want a gMSN
[06:37] <James686> no theres no buttons...
[06:37] <tiglionabbit> peet: why would you use ms office?
[06:37] <James686> all it is is text...
[06:37] <peet> IceDC571: why gaim does msn
[06:37] <chugga> Ice, gaim
[06:37] <MrJangles> ice - amsn
[06:37] <warrior_> peet, if you reallt need ms office you can dual boot with grub
[06:37] <jasmuz> peet:   Openoffice does everything for me
[06:37] <adwait> James686: the login screen is also the same? white text and black background? no text?
[06:37] <peet> warrior_: but then thta defeats the purpose :)
[06:37] <adwait> *no graphics
[06:38] <chugga> amsn is kludgy but effective
[06:38] <seth_k> Tsunamii, in /topic ;)
[06:38] <peet> warrior_: id rather just remote desktop
[06:38] <jasmuz> IceDC571: dont you mean aMSN?
[06:38] <James686> correct
[06:38] <seth_k> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:38] <peet> warrior_: bleh i wish adobe supported nix
[06:38] <tiglionabbit> peet: there are many programs that will do what ms office does.  I like abiword.  Look around
[06:38] <adwait> James686: ok......are u using grub?
[06:38] <Tsunamii> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:38] <chugga> peet, why?
[06:38] <warrior_> peet, it does
[06:38] <James686> yes
[06:38] <James686> I was
[06:38] <James686> I think
[06:38] <IceDC571> peet: i've tried the aMSN that crashes every so often and gaim doesnt have all of msn messenger's features
[06:38] <James686> lol
[06:38] <warrior_> peet, acrobat reader
[06:38] <peet> tiglionabbit: thats not the poitn the thing is i want to view ms docs :(
[06:38] <peet> warrior_: but not photosho p:(
[06:38] <Discipulus> hmm
[06:38] <nalioth> howdy
[06:38] <Discipulus> anyone here installed Fuse?
[06:38] <adwait> James686: ok anyway........try this.....login and then use the command startx
[06:38] <warrior_> peet, GIMP photoshop
[06:38] <IceDC571> i'm happy adobe made their software available to linux themselves
[06:38] <Razor-X> hmmm, any LaTeX gurus here?
[06:38] <tiglionabbit> peet: adiword and openoffice can use 3 different versions of .docs
[06:39] <Razor-X> or, people better at LaTeX than me? ;)
[06:39] <warrior_> peet, looks the same and again FREE
[06:39] <MrJangles> hmm i cant login as root, i'm getting a pass error, how is this possible? i only used one pass during installation
[06:39] <Tsunamii> lol crap
[06:39] <Tsunamii> can't copy
[06:39] <Tsunamii> anyways
[06:39] <tiglionabbit> MrJangles: you do NOT want to run X as root
[06:39] <nalioth> Razor-X: that is a hard request, you are the LaTex KiNg
[06:39] <Tsunamii> seth_k, it asks me to update the package mainter's version or keep my currently installed version
[06:39] <tiglionabbit> MrJangles: it is purposefully disabled
[06:39] <Discipulus> MrJangles, root is disabled
[06:39] <MrJangles> i'm not in X
[06:39] <Tsunamii> something about gdm.conf
[06:39] <adwait> tiglionabbit: more like he CANT run x as root
[06:39] <Discipulus> MrJangles, use sudo for everything
[06:39] <seth_k> Tsunamii, hit D for diff
[06:39] <seth_k> and see what changed
[06:39] <nalioths_dog> MrJangles: You can read all about root/sudo issues on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:39] <seth_k> what file?
[06:39] <peet> warrior_: yea but when you have diagrams it doesn't display properly so i want o know how i can get ms office to work in nix without wine :(
[06:39] <tiglionabbit> adwait: you can, it's just configured to not let you
[06:40] <Xenguy> nalioths_dog: keep that one handy ;-)
[06:40] <MrJangles> X doesnt work cause i've changed the permissions wrong for /usr
[06:40] <Tsunamii> craplah, can't do it - i accidently tried to copy and paste - and error happened ;o
[06:40] <Razor-X> MrJangles: for the meantime, if you want an X comparable environment, I suggest "sudo apt-get install twin"
[06:40] <adwait> tiglionabbit: yeah....i meant to say in ubuntu
[06:40] <Tsunamii> failed to apply all changes :(
[06:40] <MrJangles> i think we are on the wrong page
[06:40] <seth_k> is ok
[06:40] <warrior_> peet, you can do ntfs filesystem on one hard drive partition I guess
[06:40] <tiglionabbit> peet: why can't you use abiword or openoffice writer?
[06:40] <adwait> James686: any luck with startx?
[06:40] <Razor-X> jasmuz: doctory is for you application nuts ;)
[06:40] <Tsunamii> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg -- configure -a' to correct the problem.
[06:41] <Tsunamii> wha?
[06:41] <James686> well, when I first boot up, it comes up w/ a blue screen that says it cannot start the X server and it needs to be configured or whatever
[06:41] <MrJangles> when i boot my system, it goes directly to a dos like login screen
[06:41] <peet> tiglionabbit: i can but they don't display ms documents properly
[06:41] <MrJangles> no X
[06:41] <Razor-X> math is my wide open space ;)
[06:41] <peet> tiglionabbit: not all i mean
[06:41] <tiglionabbit> peet: yes they do...
[06:41] <seth_k> Tsunamii, run what it says in a terminal
[06:41] <tiglionabbit> peet: last I checked
[06:41] <seth_k> dpkg --configure -a
[06:41] <peet> tiglionabbit: not when you have the drawings
[06:41] <seth_k> er, sudo dpkg...
[06:41] <nalioth> James686: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:41] <Tsunamii> will do
[06:41] <tiglionabbit> peet: oh, yeah the drawrings look fugly, that's true, but uh, whatchagonnado
[06:41] <James686> how do I open a terminal?
[06:41] <adwait> James686: ok.....umm....ok try this dpkg-reconfigure-xserver-xorg
[06:41] <peet> tiglionabbit: :(
[06:41] <nalioth> James686: applications > system tools > terminal
[06:42] <peet> tiglionabbit: you think ms would make a linux versio?
[06:42] <James686> how do I g2 applications?
[06:42] <tiglionabbit> peet: rofl
[06:42] <warrior_> peet, if you can get Bill and Linus together you may have a chance ;-)
[06:42] <adwait> James686: nevermind.....ur not logged in x, so the thing u see is the terminal
[06:42] <peet> tiglionabbit: or better yet make it readable lol
[06:42] <adwait> ppl......he isnt in X.......
[06:42] <nalioth> James686: sorry, you are at a terminal
[06:42] <Razor-X> nevermind, I fixed my LaTeX error....
[06:42] <nalioth> adwait: yes i'm slow on comprehension
[06:42] <tiglionabbit> peet: I think MS has been trying for quite a while to thwart third party programs from reading their formats
[06:42] <adwait> naliothj: heh :p
[06:42] <MrJangles> i'm not loged in as root, is that why i'm getting '-bash: sudo: command not found" ?
[06:43] <tiglionabbit> MrJangles: no
[06:43] <Razor-X> MrJangles: what the hell did you do to your system?
[06:43] <tiglionabbit> MrJangles: go to system -> admin -> users and groups.  Are you in the admin group?
[06:43] <MrJangles> chmod 744 /usr "lol"
[06:43] <Razor-X> did you like... unpermission off /usr/sbin or /usr/bin ?
[06:43] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: no X, remember?
[06:43] <nalioth> James686: at the prompt type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:43] <Tsunamii> how to i correct the problem?   You'll probably need to configure Grub to boot you as root
[06:44] <Tsunamii> i'm in it
[06:44] <nalioth> MrJangles: sudo can be found at /usr/bin/sudo
[06:45] <seth_k> in it? :/
[06:45] <Razor-X> there's a reason you read man pages _before_ you use chmod
[06:45] <Tsunamii> yeah :/
[06:45] <seth_k> it should just run
[06:45] <norris> 12000+ but i am using fc4 x86_64
[06:45] <nalioth> MrJangles: use the whole line i posted
[06:45] <Tsunamii> :/
[06:45] <Tomcat_> ksmurf: I tried it some days ago, and a friend uses it heavily... but it takes time away from work. :P
[06:45] <seth_k> what does it say
[06:45] <Tsunamii> i'll do it again
[06:45] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: GRUB shouldn't have anyhting to do with root
[06:45] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: he is unable to use root because he chmodded sudo, remember?
[06:45] <nalioth> Harold: how is the upgrade goin?
[06:45] <Razor-X> exactly
[06:45] <norris> jasmuz 12000+ but i am using fc4 x86_64
[06:45] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: so if he boots as root, he can chmod it back
[06:45] <Tsunamii> it says need an action
[06:45] <Razor-X> exactly
[06:45] <Tsunamii> along with other commands
[06:45] <Razor-X> but GRUB only boots kernel
[06:45] <MrJangles> how do i boot as root?
[06:45] <Harold> Whoa, that was wierd.  I just returned.
[06:45] <seth_k> okay, what command
[06:45] <pacorro> alguien que hable espaol
[06:46] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: you can use grub to boot as root
[06:46] <Harold> Hello nalioth
[06:46] <adwait> tiglionabbit: cant he configure grub to boot him to run level 1......and login as root?
[06:46] <Razor-X> does it?
[06:46] <parkbench> pacorro: que te pasa
[06:46] <Razor-X> hmmm....
[06:46] <Discipulus> has anyone installed Fuse before?
[06:46] <seth_k> tiglionabbit, shouldn't he just add the word "single" to the end of the boot command?
[06:46] <tiglionabbit> adwait: that's what I said
[06:46] <ksmurf> I'm woundering how to acquire screens at startup.  I know the command is 3ddesk --acquire but it doesn't seem to work in startup under sessions? any ideas?
[06:46] <parkbench> pacorro: no tengo mucho tiempo pero dime alomejor puedo ayudarte?
[06:46] <Discipulus> I installed it but it's asking for a kernel module called fuse
[06:46] <nalioth> pacorro: hablamos espanol en #ubuntu-es
[06:46] <Discipulus> which (I think) should have been installed with it
[06:46] <norris> jasmuz r u using nvidia's drivers?
[06:46] <Harold> I upgraded, so I suppose I have to move the kernel again?
[06:46] <seth_k> Tsunamii, if it asks to keep or replace, hit D for diff
[06:46] <Discipulus> any reason why it wasn't?
[06:46] <adwait> seth_k: just the number 1 will do
[06:46] <warrior_> ksmurf, over my head unfortunately
[06:46] <Tsunamii> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/422
[06:46] <seth_k> adwait, thanks, didn't know that :)
[06:46] <nalioth> Harold: you shouldn't have to move anything
[06:46] <Harold> nalioth: Do I need to move the new kernel version now that I've apt-get upgraded?
[06:47] <jasmuz> norris what is your problem?
[06:47] <Razor-X> MrJangles: do you double-boot this box?
[06:47] <adwait> seth_k:  :)
[06:47] <seth_k> Tsunami, configure has two -- in front
[06:47] <peet> Razor-X: you mean duial boot?
[06:47] <seth_k> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:47] <Harold> nalioth: But there's a new kernel in there.
[06:47] <ksmurf> norris I use the nvidia driver... why?
[06:47] <nalioth> Harold: but wait, you are on the old world mac
[06:47] <MrJangles> how do i configure grub?
[06:47] <Tsunamii> ah right
[06:47] <Razor-X> peet: duial?
[06:47] <tiglionabbit> Harold: if you got a kernel image, it will automatically be applied.  Just select the new entry in grub's menu when you reboot to use it
[06:47] <Tsunamii> ok, i pressed d
[06:47] <nalioth> Harold: then yes (but by now, you are experienced at it)
[06:47] <Razor-X> there is no English word known as 'duial' ;)
[06:47] <Tsunamii> now what? :P
[06:47] <adwait> Tsunami: i dont think there should be a space between -- and configure
[06:47] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: he's on a old-world macintosh
[06:47] <peet> Razor-X: i meant dual
[06:47] <Tsunamii> now it has lots of comments at the bottom
[06:47] <bddebian> Smash-n-toss?? :-)
[06:47] <James686> whats the password when I type that in?
[06:47] <peet> Razor-X: :)
[06:48] <pacorro> haz instalado el request tracker
[06:48] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: Harold is on an old-world macintosh
[06:48] <Razor-X> peet: yes, of course ;)
[06:48] <Tsunamii> do i umm, just reboot? :P
[06:48] <Harold> Thanks, Tiglionabbit, but I've got to keep the kernel on my Mac partition
[06:48] <warrior_> The tech support here is awesome
[06:48] <seth_k> Tsunamii, the + lines were added
[06:48] <seth_k> the - lines were removed
[06:48] <seth_k> what file is it?
[06:48] <Tsunamii> yeah
[06:48] <James686> ???
[06:48] <tiglionabbit> Harold: sorry
[06:48] <Tsunamii> what does that mean? :P
[06:48] <warrior_> there is hardly no question that goes unanswered
[06:48] <Harold> Warrior: The tech support is awesome, isn't it/
[06:48] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: Harold is on a mac so old, it doesnt even use yaboot
[06:48] <Razor-X> pacorro: no hablamos espanol avec aqui
[06:48] <James686> well?
[06:48] <Razor-X> errrr
[06:48] <seth_k> Tsunamii, do you know what file it is?
[06:48] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: I heard you the first of 3 times
[06:48] <bddebian> nalioth: I added myself to the list so now what? :-)
[06:48] <Razor-X> *en aqui
[06:48] <peet> has anyone got linux installed on ao mac mini
[06:48] <Tsunamii> gdm.conf ?
[06:48] <Razor-X> damn, my French and limited Spanish are mixing
[06:48] <norris> ksmurf , jasmuz, not having a probelm with with fedora core 4 x86_64 & nvidia with any of my games, from doom3 to ut, and even the 64 bit ut2004. I was just wondering, if there were any known gotchas, in case I were to decide to swith to ubuntu i386
[06:48] <seth_k> ah ha
[06:48] <Harold> nalioth; LOL
[06:48] <pacorro> sorry! about that
[06:49] <Harold> It's true
[06:49] <seth_k> Tsunamii, exit the preview and select "install new version"
[06:49] <Harold> But I'm not the first!
[06:49] <warrior_> lol Razor-X
[06:49] <nalioth> bddebian: you wait a minute
[06:49] <James686> hello???
[06:49] <Tsunamii> install new version where? D:
[06:49] <adwait> James686: ?
[06:49] <warrior_> I'm all about some french
[06:49] <Harold> nalioth: So right now I'm transferring the kernel and the initrid.img
[06:49] <Tsunamii> go back and run it?
[06:49] <bddebian> nalioth: Though after tonight I think I am reconsidering.. ;-P
[06:49] <adwait> warior_: que?
[06:49] <seth_k> you should be able to exit the diff view
[06:49] <seth_k> and then hit I for install
[06:49] <Tsunamii> ;o
[06:49] <Razor-X> warrior_: mainentant, tais toi, pedant ;)
[06:50] <James686> adwait: I said whats the password when I type that in?
[06:50] <warrior_> porquoi?
[06:50] <nalioth> bddebian: this is nothing
[06:50] <adwait> James686: ur user password
[06:50] <Razor-X> PARCE QUE JE PARLE MAINTENANT
[06:50] <pacorro> somebody that has installed request tracker
[06:50] <seth_k> mmm, le francais
[06:50] <Razor-X> muahahahaha!!!!
[06:50] <bddebian> nalioth: Well I'm losing.. :-)
[06:50] <Razor-X> ok ok, i'm sorry
[06:50] <Harold> nalioth: I also ran that dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 earlier.
[06:50] <nalioth> Razor-X: y'all take that to ubuntu-fr, please
[06:50] <Tsunamii> kk
[06:50] <Tsunamii> installing
[06:50] <Tsunamii> woot!
[06:50] <adwait> uhh......;donc maintenant tout le monde veut parler en franais!!
[06:50] <James686> I did, then it said that line of text is invalid...
[06:50] <Harold> Actually, I had to install xserver-xfree86
[06:50] <MrJangles> what would you guys recommend for wifi detection software>
[06:50] <warrior_> La Bouche moi Razor-X j'em apelle Tim
[06:50] <Tsunamii> what? finished already? D:
[06:50] <seth_k> wifi-radar
[06:50] <MrJangles> ty
[06:50] <Tsunamii> now what seth_k, it finished installing :P
[06:50] <Razor-X> nalioth: is there an #ubuntu-bg ?
[06:50] <seth_k> lemme find you a link to a deb
[06:50] <Harold> wifi-radar?  I'll try it, too
[06:50] <MrJangles> anything extra to install on gnome?
[06:51] <seth_k> Tsunamii, run another synaptic upgrade
[06:51] <MrJangles> or will it run
[06:51] <seth_k> neg, it's a gnome app
[06:51] <Tsunamii> will do
[06:51] <seth_k> i'll find you a deb
[06:51] <Razor-X> like , ami bangla te kotha bolie... foo! XD
[06:51] <pacorro> somebody that has installed request tracker
[06:51] <MrJangles> beauty
[06:51] <Razor-X> (no, in real life, I don't say "foo")
[06:51] <warrior_> comment t'appelle tu Razor-X ?
[06:51] <MrJangles> btw i fixed my problem (thanks :)
[06:51] <nalioth> Razor-X: bg being what?
[06:51] <Tsunamii> and download everything else?
[06:51] <Tsunamii> via smart?
[06:51] <Razor-X> warrior_: not for you to know ;)
[06:51] <warrior_> I guess not
[06:51] <James686> WHY CANT I INSTALL UBUNTU PROPERLY???
[06:52] <Razor-X> nalioth: bengali
[06:52] <tiglionabbit> James686: NO IDEA MAN, WHATS THE PROBLEM?
[06:52] <adwait> James686: wht happened with that command?
[06:52] <warrior_> James686, because you started drinking too early today!
[06:52] <adwait> lol
[06:52] <James686> can I install my Nvidia driver from the CD?
[06:52] <nalioth> si'l vous plait, parlez francais en #ubuntu-fr
[06:52] <MrJangles> newb question.. how do i create folders?
[06:52] <James686> I dont drink lol
[06:52] <tiglionabbit> James686: no
[06:52] <warrior_> James686, no
[06:52] <MrJangles> i'm assuming i dont have permission
[06:52] <Tomcat_> MrJangles: right click, "New folder"
[06:52] <bddebian> MrJangles: There are no "folders" in GNU/Linux ;-)
[06:52] <Razor-X> nalioth: non! tais toi MAINTENANT (joking)
[06:52] <tiglionabbit> MrJangles: use the `mkdir` command, or in the gui right-click and create a new folder
[06:52] <James686> how can I install it from the terminal?
[06:52] <sinferno> can anyone help me get 4 speakers working with a sblive value?
[06:52] <Tsunamii> seth_k,  ? D:
[06:52] <MrJangles> its blanked out
[06:52] <Razor-X> nalioth: does code text look good in a table?
[06:53] <tiglionabbit> !nvidia
[06:53] <ubotu> [nvidia]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:53] <Razor-X> based on the PDF I sent you a while back
[06:53] <adwait> damn.....i wish i would stopp pressing ctrl + a to select all text.......xchat just quits :p
[06:53] <warrior_> James686, from the top.  Put the cd and follow the instructions
[06:53] <Tomcat_> MrJangles: You need write permission in the directory for that... and probably execute.
[06:53] <warrior_> I got nothing else
[06:53] <seth_k> Tsunamii, if reconfigure finished, run synaptic and upgrade again
[06:53] <tiglionabbit> James686: read that wiki ubotu just printed out
[06:53] <seth_k> to make sure it got it all
[06:53] <Tsunamii> all ?
[06:53] <Razor-X> adwait: C-a scrolls to the beginning of the line, you idiot ;)
[06:53] <MrJangles> i tried setting it up before and messed things all up
[06:53] <Tsunamii> or just smart ( dist )
[06:53] <nalioth> Razor-X: what kind of code and what kind of table? am i missing a point?
[06:53] <seth_k> smart is fine
[06:53] <MrJangles> how do i do it in X?
[06:53] <Tsunamii> ok
[06:53] <Razor-X> nalioth: i'll send you a sample
[06:53] <Tsunamii> yeah i think it has all of it
[06:54] <Tsunamii> now for the nvidia thing
[06:54] <nalioth> Razor-X: please preface my nick when you address me
[06:54] <MrJangles> nvm
[06:54] <adwait> Razor-X: C-a = select all in winblows (new convert) :)
[06:54] <warrior_> good work today guys.  I'm waiting for someone to come in here and ask about world hunger
[06:54] <bddebian> seth_k: I thought you went to bed?? :-)
[06:54] <Razor-X> adwait: ewwwwwwwwwwww!
[06:54] <nalioth> bddebian: you are approved, prepare for spam! j/k
[06:54] <bddebian> nalioth: Oh Nooo :-)
[06:54] <Tsunamii> so where's the nvidia setup seth_k? it's not in the list :P
[06:54] <adwait> ,lol
[06:54] <Tsunamii> NVM
[06:54] <tiglionabbit> adwait: X uses mostly the key bindings from the emacs text editor
[06:54] <Tsunamii> found it :P
[06:54] <seth_k> nvidia-glx
[06:54] <bddebian> nalioth: Approved for what exactly? :-)
[06:54] <adwait> James686: ok.......get the drivers from someplace...then use dpkg to insall
[06:54] <seth_k> bddebian, Tsunamii asked for 10 more minutes of help
[06:55] <warrior_> seth_k was happy to oblige a call for help
[06:55] <adwait> tglioabbit: hmm.......haven't used emac, mostly i use vi
[06:55] <Tsunamii> kk found it
[06:55] <seth_k> groodums
[06:55] <cyphase> does anyone know of a program/script that can randomly generate the kinds of images used to disallow bots from creating multiple accounts on a website?
[06:55] <peet> should i name my workstation beets or asparagus
[06:55] <seth_k> beets
[06:55] <peet> quick!
[06:55] <seth_k> easier to type
[06:55] <bddebian> neither
[06:55] <warrior_> :-)
[06:55] <seth_k> mine are eos and erebus and nox
[06:55] <Harold> Anyone know how to stop a file transfer in sftp/
[06:55] <Harold> ?
[06:55] <peet> seth_k: haha :)
[06:55] <seth_k> CTRL + C? :P
[06:55] <tiglionabbit> peet: you should think of a clever naming convention.  My machines are all named after characters from Super Mario Bros
[06:55] <peet> Harold: control c?
[06:56] <warrior_> I'm an okra fan myself
[06:56] <nalioth> Harold: ctrl-c
[06:56] <lifeless> cyphase: yes, there is an open source thing to make such read-this-text pictures
[06:56] <Harold> Thank you all
[06:56] <sinferno> can someone tell me where to get cedega
[06:56] <nalioth> Harold: or pull the ethernet
[06:56] <ksmurf> bbl
[06:56] <peet> tiglionabbit: well mine is vegetables :turnip alfalfa
[06:56] <seth_k> http://transgaming.(net|com)
[06:56] <lifeless> cyphase: I don't recall its name
[06:56] <warrior_> sinferno, yes http://www.transgaming.com
[06:56] <Tsunamii> so when i reboot, i'd have Hoary version seth_k ? :P
[06:56] <seth_k> yep
[06:56] <Tsunamii> :)
[06:56] <seth_k> if the synaptic upgrade finished
[06:56] <seth_k> with no more packages
[06:56] <Tsunamii> i'll reboot after nvidia dl
[06:56] <Harold> Control-C: Could've sworn i tried that earlier.
[06:56] <Tsunamii> k done
[06:56] <seth_k> okay, then I'll head off to bed now :)
[06:56] <Tsunamii> i'm pretty sure it's updated
[06:56] <Harold> Worked now, at least
[06:56] <Tsunamii> cya
[06:56] <James686> dpkg?
[06:57] <seth_k> have a good night Tsunamii
[06:57] <James686> whats that?
[06:57] <seth_k> hope it works out for you
[06:57] <Tsunamii> i'll wake you up, if i need anything seth_k :P
[06:57] <Tsunamii> aye
[06:57] <Tsunamii> =]
[06:57] <warrior_> later seth_k
[06:57] <seth_k> haha
[06:57] <jasmuz> sinferno: Cedega is a pay for use software, get WineCVS
[06:57] <seth_k> there are LOTS of people who know more than I do, ask them
[06:57] <Tsunamii> LIES
[06:57] <Tsunamii> anyways, reboot ;p
[06:57] <seth_k> I just like the punishment of coming and helping out
[06:57] <seth_k> cross fingers, bye
[06:57] <tiglionabbit> !dpkg
[06:57] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: No idea
[06:57] <adwait> james686: if u can get drivers for ur card, they'll be in a *.deb file (preferable).then u use sudo dpkg -i <filename> to install them at the prompt
[06:57] <warrior_> *peeing
[06:57] <tiglionabbit> what, ubotu doesn't know about dpkg?  But ubotu was originally dpkg!
[06:58] <adwait> !command dpkg
[06:58] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, adwait
[06:58] <tiglionabbit> James686: read the wiki
[06:58] <adwait> :
[06:58] <adwait> :p
[06:58] <tiglionabbit> !nvidia
[06:58] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:58] <Razor-X> stop this Control+ madness
[06:58] <Razor-X> it's all about C-
[06:58] <James686> the internet wont be able to work on the computer w/ Ubuntu since its wireless...
[06:58] <adwait> James686: right ull need to get on another pc..........does the cd tht u have, have linux driverS?
[06:58] <James686> that ok?
[06:59] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: not everyone knows emacs-notation.  There are windows converts in here
[06:59] <James686> no...
[06:59] <Mystery> can someone please help me with some sound problems?
[06:59] <James686> the other PC is this one
[06:59] <peet> tiglionabbit: whats emacs notation :S
[06:59] <adwait> James686: right......then u need another pc with a net connection
[06:59] <Harold> Everyone: Now that I've got Ubuntu, what do I do with it?  LOL
[06:59] <James686> which is this
[06:59] <adwait> Harold: umm.......curse windows
[06:59] <Harold> Adwait: LOL
[06:59] <bddebian> Harold: :-)
[06:59] <adwait> James686: wekk then get to the first pc :)
[06:59] <Tomcat_> Harold: Use it, have fun and then get other people to use it? :o
[06:59] <Discipulus> could someone do me a favor?
[06:59] <Mystery> anyone?
[07:00] <tiglionabbit> peet: emacs is a text editor.  It has lots of commands where you hold control and press something.  It denotes them all by saying things like C-x C-s or C-a or things like that
[07:00] <nalioth> Harold: anything you want
[07:00] <adwait> James686: any chance tht u might have a dual boot OS on this pc/
[07:00] <Mystery> when ALSA starts up it gives me some errors
[07:00] <James686> the first one, the one w/ Ubuntu? I only have 2 computers
[07:00] <Harold> Tomcat: I will, if I like it.   Trying to compile bbracer, but I keep getting "configure: error: Cannot find GL library" - I've tried installing various OpenGL libraries, but haven't managed to satisfy it, any pointers?
[07:01] <peet> Harold: use "#iwlist scanning"
[07:01] <James686> I wish I could just get the installation finished...
[07:01] <Mystery> anyone?
[07:01] <tiglionabbit> ubotu dpkg is Debian PacKaGe manager.  Use it to install and remove .debs you can't get through APT
[07:01] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[07:01] <woodwizzle> Is there anyway to play WMV9 files in linux?
[07:01] <tiglionabbit> !dpkg
[07:01] <ubotu> [dpkg]  Debian PacKaGe manager.  Use it to install and remove .debs you can't get through APT
[07:01] <Harold> peet: Thank you.  That's my next project, figuring out how to configure my wireless adapter.
[07:01] <woodwizzle> I've tried totem, vlc and mplayer and no luck :(
[07:01] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: HOW do i use dpkg?
[07:01] <peet> Harold: :) if you have centrino its real easy
[07:02] <Discipulus> adwait, ???
[07:02] <kolwon> sup guys
[07:02] <Davey> woodwizzle: did you install the w32codecs package?
[07:02] <James686> will I be able to get that Nvidia video driver w/ out the net?
[07:02] <peet> woodwizzle: make sure you have the codecs
[07:02] <Discipulus> adwait, not gonna help me out?
[07:02] <Discipulus> anyone?
[07:02] <James686> on my computer?
[07:02] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: uh... how much do you think I should have it explain?
[07:02] <adwait> Harold: i dont hv a laptop, so dont need to.......i got ADSL on pc
[07:02] <WMCoolmon> Mystery: are you sure it isn't "Invalid Card Number"?
[07:02] <Harold> peet: I'm using a D-Link card on my powerbook
[07:02] <Burgundavia> James686, it may be on the desk
[07:02] <Burgundavia> James686, s/desk/disk
[07:02] <MrJangles> when i run wifi-radar in a terminal, it says "bash: wifi-radar: command not found" ?
[07:02] <peet> Harold: can't say about dlink but it hink they are nix friendly
[07:02] <Harold> adwait: that's the easy way
[07:02] <James686> how can I get it to run?
[07:02] <Mystery> WMCoolmon: but wtf does that mean?
[07:02] <peet> Harold: you can always use ndiswrapper for unsupported wireless cards
[07:02] <Davey> MrJangles: apt-get install wifi-radar
[07:02] <Mystery> and how do i fix it?
[07:02] <Discipulus> adwait, you can't do that for me?
[07:02] <Harold> peet: I think this card will work; it's worked for other linuxheads
[07:02] <adwait> Disciplus:nothing.......
[07:03] <peet> Harold: what model is it
[07:03] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: a simple explanation and usage instructions
[07:03] <seth_k> here's wifi-radar debs btw: http://master.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu/
[07:03] <Harold> peet: Exactly; I've read that ndiswrapper works
[07:03] <adwait> Discipulus: sorry..got a call in the mean while :)
[07:03] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget dpkg