[04:34] <USN1520> less prone for errors too
[04:34] <patifa> h00k: Apparently not mine... yet.
[04:34] <shthap3ns> furicle: i have 1gb of ram
[04:34] <h00k> patifa: which is that?
[04:34] <patifa> Rural independent cable service provider
[04:34] <USN1520> eboyjr, I may be wrong but torrent is pretty solid
[04:34] <h00k> patifa: rock on.
[04:34] <anoble> h00k: how do i overwrite with the backup file?
[04:35] <earthling> rokumanxes: what is the output of iwconfig?
[04:35] <CUBeR64> hi everyone, i'd just like to ask if the creative zen stone 1gb allows booting?
[04:35] <anoble> h00k: something with a mv or w/e
[04:35] <DrUnKnMuNkY> hey everyone. i can't get apache to start. tried /etc/init.d/apache2 start. it tells me OK and gives me no error messages but nothing actually runs. any ideas?
[04:35] <sourgrape> anoble, probably have to put sudo in front of the command
[04:35] <h00k> anoble: cp
[04:35] <eboyjr> Its hard to tell where the mirrors are when you download Ubuntu, its poorly done
[04:35] <h00k> anoble: cp 'filename' 'destination'
[04:35] <USN1520> how so?
[04:35] <anoble> h00k: k
[04:35] <patifa> DrUnKnMuNkY: Try #ubuntu-server (is that an official channel?)
[04:36] <USN1520> eboyjr, at the bottom of the webpage select view all mirrors
[04:36] <anoble> h00k: but the command that someone else gave me had like a mv in it
[04:36] <fde> eboyjr: It's designed that way to make it less confusing for you...
[04:36] <Vlet> DrUnKnMuNkY: you're supposed to use: sudo apache2ctl start
[04:36] <fde> patifa: yup
[04:36] <h00k> anoble: mv will move it, like "cut"
[04:36] <CUBeR64> hi everyone, i'd just like to ask if the creative zen stone 1gb allows booting of the ubuntu 8.04 livecd
[04:36] <sourgrape> that's right, it's like cut... where cp is copy
[04:36] <Vlet> DrUnKnMuNkY: well, using what you did is fine, but apache2ctl is what's recommended
[04:36] <shthap3ns> furicle: i'm gonna have to bother you with one more question (im actually quite the linux noob): number of active devices = 2, number of spare devices = 0 is correct, right?
[04:37] <USN1520> CUBe64 I dont even know what that is, sorry
[04:37] <DrUnKnMuNkY> Vlet: that doesn't work either.
[04:37] <patifa> CUBeR64: Huh?
[04:37] <eboyjr> jde, USN1520, I dont even know what state each of the mirrors are in in the US... I just picked Mexico because I am pretty close to them. :)
[04:37] <sourgrape> Cube - the MP3 player?
[04:37] <Vlet> DrUnKnMuNkY: well, what's the error?
[04:37] <USN1520> where are you at
[04:37] <CUBeR64> yes sourgrape
[04:37] <yrlnry> I upgraded to HH this afternoon.  Since the upgrade, when I select a URL in gnome-terminal and then pick the "open this link" menu item, the link doesn't open in my browser.  Instead, I get a dialog that says "Could not open the address "http://...":  There was an error launching the default action command associated with this location."   How can I fix this, or find out what the "error" was?
[04:37] <newperson122> Hey gparted keeps giving me this in dmesg | tail :  program gparted is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO, ive also noticed it crashes alot :S
[04:37] <eboyjr> USN1520, Las Vegas, NV ( Southern Nevada )
[04:37] <fde> eboyjr: archive.<country_code>.ubuntu.com performs some magic to redirect you to your fastest local mirror...
[04:37] <Vlet> DrUnKnMuNkY: oh sorry, it gives none... check /var/log/apache2/error.log
[04:37] <sourgrape> Cube - NO idea on that one, probably have to google or put it in the forums.
[04:38] <anoble> yrlnry: this happeds in Windows
[04:38] <anoble> yrlnry: i get that in Windows 2
[04:38] <CUBeR64> sourgrape: alrighty, thanks
[04:38] <sourgrape> Cube - but post it in the forums if you DO get it working, that sounds like fun :)
[04:38] <billy> did they ever add support for the 160gb ipod's?
[04:38] <patifa> just roll the dice on a US server if you live in the US.  The layout of the internet in the US will make more of a difference than the city it's in relative to your own from within the continental US.
[04:38] <firedice> With virtual box can i set up my video driver for my nvidia 8800gt?
[04:38] <anoble> h00k: yeah none of these worked :/
[04:38] <yrlnry> anoble: thanks!  that fixed my problem!
[04:38] <Judeglass> so... i have this USB stick that i installed hardy heron from... i used another hardy box to create it. the stick mounts fine on the original hardy box and on my MacBook Pro. it is a fat32 volume.
[04:38] <USN1520> eboyjr, pick one it doesnt matter and download the torrent file...it is really small
[04:39] <Judeglass> but it won't mount on this new Hardy machine
[04:39] <sourgrape> firedice - the VB uses a virtual device driver
[04:39] <USN1520> eboyjr, then open with your torrent client and viola
[04:39] <anoble> yrlnry: sarcasm?
[04:39] <h00k> anoble: where are you trying to copy them from?
[04:39] <sourgrape> firedice - the best you can do is to install the VB tools
[04:39] <fde> Oh, he's not that far yet... sorry
[04:39] <yrlnry> anoble: No!
[04:39] <DrUnKnMuNkY> Vlet: a few errors in there that I should be able to fix. thanks
[04:39] <anoble> h00k: /etc/X11
[04:39] <Judeglass> i installed the Hardy on this problem machine from this same USB stick
[04:39] <anoble> yrlnry: right ....
[04:39] <eboyjr> USN1520, Alright, th
[04:39] <eboyjr> x
[04:39] <yrlnry> anoble: WHen you said that, I realized that the problem was that HH had installed Firefox 3, and that the terminal program wants to use the default browser, which is FF2, which is no longer present since the upgrade.
[04:40] <kingsley_zissou> issue: fresh install of HH on my toshiba lappy, is there a work-around to use glx? or a way to get mobility radeon 9000/9100 IGP to render 3D on HH? had no issues on GG.
[04:40] <yrlnry> anoble: so I told FF3 to make itself the default browser, and the problem went away.
[04:40] <h00k> anoble: are you trying to edit your xorg.conf ?
[04:40] <anoble> yrlnry: oh, well glad i helped : )
[04:40] <Judeglass> i get a message: "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'USB_Stick'
[04:40] <Judeglass> (thats what i named it)
[04:40] <Judeglass> original  i know
[04:40] <firedice> sourgrape> do you set up the tools inside of vb?
[04:40] <anoble> h00k: im trying to over right with the backup
[04:40] <USN1520> I am out yall...good night
[04:40] <h00k> anoble: gotcha
[04:41] <h00k> anoble: you can do 'mv xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf.old'
[04:41] <anoble> h00k: and cp didnt work
[04:41] <eboyjr> Where do I find the torrent file for the mirrors?
[04:41] <h00k> anoble: do mv instead
[04:41] <x45> I've got an ubuntu pc that crashe's like its job almost every 5-10 minutes out of the blue, is it the hardware doing this?
[04:41] <sourgrape> firedice - I think it's the "tools" menu - gimme a sec to fire mine up
[04:41] <anoble> h00k: lol k
[04:41] <Judeglass> any ideas as to where i should look to find out how it is being mounted?
[04:41] <patifa> the torrent file doesn't download from the 'mirrors'
[04:41] <h00k> anoble: mv xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf.old
[04:41] <patifa> unless you just mean the .torrent file, which is only a couple hundred kilobytes at most
[04:41] <kingsley_zissou> sorry got disconnected. did anybody address my ati 9100 question?
[04:42] <h00k> anoble: shoot - if you did that, do 'mv xorg.conf.old xorg.conf'
[04:42] <eboyjr> patifa, I need a torrent for 8.04 in the US
[04:42] <angryatheron> i upgraded to HH on my hp laptop and now when using wireless I get some total hard freezes... cap and num lock lights flash on and off, screen stays on, mouse frozen, nothing will come back... has anyone else had a similar experience?  I can't figure out what is going on and it is driving me crazy
[04:42] <firedice> sourgrape> what is thsi vb tools your talking about?
[04:42] <genii> eboyjr: The nature of torrents makes them international by default
[04:42] <patifa> eboyjr: What do you mean by a 'torrent'?  Do you mean the torrent hash file or the place all the actual ISO data comes from?
[04:42] <sourgrape> firedice - looking at mine - it's just some utilities
[04:42] <shthap3ns> anyone: for a fileserver, recommend ext3 or XFS?
[04:43] <eboyjr> genii, Ohh, thats right lol
[04:43] <anoble> h00k: its restarting
[04:43] <h00k> anoble: okay - I hope this works :)
[04:43] <patifa> Yeah, what genii said.  The torrent download comes from a pool of everyone else who's downloading it at the same time with bittorrent.
[04:43] <anoble> h00k: well i hope this gets us to square 1 again
[04:43] <eboyjr> patifa, So I can use BitTorrent or something to get the ubuntu iso
[04:43] <furicle> shthap3ns: yep - two devices assigned in the array and no hot spares.
[04:43] <h00k> anoble: yeah, that's what I mean
[04:43] <oddalot> hi, how do i get rid of the login screen at startup?
[04:43] <anoble> h00k: bec as of atm i cant even login :/
[04:44] <fde> shthap3ns: Actually, for the directory the files are in - if they're large files, I'd recommend XFS... but for the rest of the system, ext3 as it's more general purpose.
[04:44] <shthap3ns> furicle: thanks for your help, much appreciated!
[04:44] <kingsley_zissou> l
[04:44] <anoble> h00k: .. didnt work
[04:44] <h00k> anoble: can you get the package on a thumbdrive at all? or that machine on the net?
[04:44] <patifa> eboyjr: yes.  You'll need a bittorrent client and the ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent file
[04:44] <pingu_> ok guys just got the new version and having trouble with the wireless internet any help
[04:44] <skinnymg1> how do i loggin as root
[04:44] <anoble> h00k: well i can unplug this one and do it ..
[04:44] <Vlet> shthap3ns: from what I've gathered, xfs only presents an advantage when there are lots of small files
[04:44] <h00k> anoble: ooooo.... :S
[04:44] <shthap3ns> fde: mostly storing documents, excel sheets, etc
[04:45] <shthap3ns> v1et: perfect, thanks :)
[04:45] <eboyjr> patifa, Good, I found that exact file
[04:45] <eboyjr> thanks
[04:45] <eboyjr> :)
[04:45] <kyncani> oddalot: the graphical login screen ? want autologin or no graphical login at all ?
[04:45] <patifa> eboyjr: you got a bittorrent client?
[04:45] <Vlet> shthap3ns: accent on the "lots"
[04:45] <h00k> anoble: can you get privmsgs?
[04:45] <sourgrape> firedice - with the virtual machine running, go to "Devices" then "install guest additions"
[04:45] <pingu_> anyone?
[04:45] <oddalot> no login at all, just go to my one user
[04:45] <furicle> shthap3ns: de nada
[04:45] <fde> shthap3ns: It depends on the size, too small, and you might as well use ext3...
[04:45] <eboyjr> patifa, Yeh, I'll just use BitTorrent
[04:45] <furicle> \away
[04:45] <anoble> h00k: well i might be able to apt-get ircd or something that runs in terminal
[04:46]  * furicle produces irc idiot alert
[04:46] <h00k> anoble: boot into safe mode again, and ls /etc/X11
[04:46] <IdleOne> !ot | furicle
[04:46] <legend2440> oddalot: system>administration>login window>security>enable auto login
[04:46] <patifa> there you go eboyjr.  Just open up the .torrent file in the BitTorrent program and wait for it to get rolling.  Should be quite fast once it gets cranking.
[04:46] <kyncani> oddalot: you want autologin, i think the gdmsetup tool allow you to configure that (/etc/gdm/gdm.conf)
[04:46] <fde> shthap3ns: I'd probably suggest going with ext3, and if you think there is a hardware bottleneck, leave some space for XFS later, and mount that to wherever...
[04:46] <BROOM> /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
[04:46] <oddalot> thanks legend2440
[04:46] <pingu_> ok guys just got the new version and having trouble with the wireless internet any help
[04:46] <wgaryg> hi
[04:46] <shthap3ns> fde: thanks. i think i'll do that
[04:47] <eboyjr> wow! 200 KB/s !! awesome
[04:47] <anoble> h00k: well the backup went away now there is only the reg one
[04:47] <kingsley_zissou> Do the ATI proprietary drivers work for Mobility Radeon 9000/9100 IGP in Hardy Heron? I had no problem with desktop effects on Gutsy Gibbon, and I've tried multiple methods of installing the drivers. Possible/Impossible? Workaround?
[04:47] <h00k> anoble: no xorg.conf.1 or anything?
[04:47] <fde> shthap3ns: More than welcome!
[04:47] <wgaryg> has anyone here had any experience with Cingular 865 Air Cards?
[04:47] <Vlet> pingu_: specific questions help
[04:47] <anoble> h00k: nope :/
[04:47] <h00k> anoble: what card do you have? what res?
[04:47] <eboyjr> Only 700000 more to go
[04:47] <anoble> h00k: uhm GeForce2
[04:48] <root> d
[04:48] <anoble> h00k: on board
[04:48] <patifa> eboyjr: just do everyone a favor and leave it open after the download finishes for awhile.  You're downloading from other people who are downloading it on bittorrent.  If you leave it running for a little while, you'll upload bits and pieces of the ISO to others :)
[04:48] <h00k> anoble: I can pastebin you my xorg.conf
[04:48] <anoble> h00k: ran a dxdaig on it
[04:48] <root> q
[04:48] <eboyjr> patifa, Thats seeding, right?
[04:48] <patifa> yes
[04:48] <Mimi> QUESTION:    how do I record audio output from any app? Audacity isnt doing it ;p
[04:48] <anoble> h00k: ha! failsafe terminal failed 2
[04:48] <eboyjr> sure i will
[04:48] <Mimi> I can try other apps. if theyre easy the better
[04:49] <h00k> anoble: WHA?
[04:49] <kingsley_zissou> « /msg ubottu etiquette »
[04:49] <h00k> anoble: ^o) I didn't know that could happen.
[04:49] <furicle> OK - what's !ot ?   me irc dummy
[04:49] <anoble> h00k: yeah wont even boot to failsafe terminal wont even work
[04:49] <h00k> anoble: what error?
[04:49] <sourgrape> h00k - have anoble back up the xorg.conf, then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:49] <roshane> hey all, i'm new to Linux but i'm learning
[04:49] <dan_> #townsquare
[04:49] <anoble> h00k: the one where it doesnt show any
[04:49] <sourgrape> h00k - then maybe point him/her to envy ng ?
[04:50] <roshane> interested in learning how to do installations
[04:50] <anoble> h00k: and just the Ubuntu Color and a White box that is small and doesnt do anything
[04:50] <Scunizi> !envy | sourgrape h00k
[04:50] <Mimi>  :3 What do you guys use to easiliy record audio from any application? (not microphone)
[04:50] <Daisuke_Ido> on a further note: upgrades will probably break.
[04:51] <thebitguru> Hi, I cannot remap Alt+right click to resize window when using compiz.  Something keeps changing it to Button2 when I set it to Alt+button3.  Any ideas?
[04:51] <pingu_> vlet: ah i have set up the wireless connect i.e. the name and password and type. and it still wont connect
[04:52] <anoble> sourgrape: do i need internet for that?
[04:52] <roshane> i did an installation and when it was through, i couldnt find it
[04:52] <sourgrape> For the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg you don't
[04:52] <sourgrape> anoble - that should at least get you working in X again
[04:52] <roshane> an animated wallpaper, does anyone know how to get one and also a cool dock...i'm a new user
[04:53] <rnartos> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is this the fix for my problem in intel 945GM detection in ubuntu 8.04??
[04:53] <r3b> hello, I just installed the linux-server package, after rebooting, the proprietary NVIDIA driver no longer works (I have to use the generic 'nv' driver). any way to fix this?
[04:53] <sourgrape> rnartos - I'm not sure what your problem is, sorry
[04:53] <ferric84> I have an ntfs external hard drive... can I delete the "RECYCLER" folder without issue?
[04:53] <kingsley_zissou> Do the ATI proprietary drivers work for Mobility Radeon 9000/9100 IGP in Hardy Heron? I had no problem with desktop effects on Gutsy Gibbon, and I've tried multiple methods of installing the drivers. Possible/Impossible? Workaround?
[04:53] <anoble> sourgrape: use kernal framebuffer interface?
[04:53] <Scunizi> r3b, look in synaptic for the restricted drivers ending in -server..
[04:53] <fujin> How can I adjust $PATH system wide?
[04:53] <bazhang> roshane you should look into awn avant window navigator for dock; and compiz has an animated wp plugin iirc
[04:54] <r3b> Scunizi: thanks, will do
[04:54] <sourgrape> anoble - I'm a little late to the party - have you tried 'nv' - you have a geforce 2 right?  Probably a "go" verison, you said it was built in
[04:54] <rnartos> sourgrape:  one thing more why xorg.conf doesn't show the details of my current configured video card.. it just show  "configuration for current video card" ...etc
[04:54] <patifa> ferric84: I delete it once.  When I took the drive to a windows computer it regenerated.
[04:54] <anoble> sourgrape: yeah i have the go version
[04:54] <Scunizi> r3b, it's also the only way to get wireless working with the atheros chipset as well
[04:54] <sourgrape> anoble - try NV first
[04:54] <rnartos> no  more Option "####" "###"
[04:54] <ferric84> patifa: thanks
[04:55] <anoble> sourgrape: whats the command nv?
[04:55] <rnartos> nor driver intel
[04:55] <roshane> bazhang, i'm not sure how to do all that...a very new user
[04:55] <anoble> sourgrape: or there site?
[04:55] <patifa> ferric84: Just don't go deleting $blah$ files
[04:55] <sourgrape> anoble - in a terminal window, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:55] <ferric84> patifa: are those ubuntu?
[04:55] <DrifterSX> hardy heron is pretty radical
[04:55] <rnartos> sourgrape: so how can I configure my video card right now in ubuntu 8.04?
[04:55] <bazhang> roshane I have to step out for a bit; mention to others here that you want awn and the compiz plugin for wallpapers --animated and they can help you no doubt
[04:55] <patifa> Well, one of them for example is an NTFS journaling file or something
[04:56] <anoble> sourgrape: k done
[04:56] <sourgrape> anoble - it should go through a few screens
[04:56] <anoble> sourgrape: restart?
[04:56] <roshane> yeah man, thanks
[04:56] <anoble> sourgrape: yeah i went through them
[04:56] <rnartos> sourgrape: xorg.conf not showing the detaild configs as before
[04:56] <r3b> Scunizi: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-16-server  that looks like the one, eh?
[04:56] <sourgrape> anoble - wow that was fast.. ok yea, try a restart
[04:56] <Scunizi> r3b, yep
[04:56] <sourgrape> rnartos - I'm not sure, have you recently reconfigured or changed something?
[04:56] <r3b> Scunizi: thanks again
[04:56] <Scunizi> r3b, np
[04:57] <anoble> sourgrape: well i was doing it like 20 seconds before you said to bec you said erlier to do it
[04:57] <newperson122> Hey when installing from the live cd, how do i have it so it doesnt try to "scan the mirror" because im on dial up speed, and i can never find out how to get the installer not to do this, because it always takes like at least an hour or so
[04:57] <sourgrape> anoble ah =)  Faster thinker than I am (Not that it's hard to do)
[04:57] <rnartos> sourgrape: after I install ubuntu... the xorg.conf only shows.. under device  "configured for current video card"
[04:58] <rnartos> sourgrape: in lspci it shows my current video card "Intel 945GM"
[04:58] <sourgrape> rnartos - what specific problem is this causing you?
[04:58] <anoble> sourgrape: haha yeah BS! i cant even get this to run on my own though this is my first day of REALLY using linux
[04:58] <r3b> Scunizi: gonna test it out, if you don't see me again, that's probly a good thing :P
[04:58] <Scunizi> r3b, :)
[04:58] <yrlnry> I just upgraded to HH.  I find that I can't sudo anymore; it now says "sudo: unable to resolve host mjd-laptop".  Any way to fix this without rebooting into single-user more?
[04:58] <yrlnry> mode?
[04:58] <rnartos> sourgrape: nothing much just wanted to know if my video card is configured or detected correctly
[04:58] <anoble> sourgrape: hmm looks like it all died X________X
[04:59] <sourgrape> rnartos - ah.  Well does everything look purty when you're in gnome or KDE?
[04:59] <ubuntuROX> Anyone else have multiple USB Drives listed under Places / Computer? even when there are no usb devices plugged in?
[04:59] <earthling> roshane: try this link helps in setting dock and other cool stuff  blog.prashanthellina.com/2007/10/21/making-ubuntu-710-gutsy-look-slicker/
[04:59] <rnartos> gnome
[04:59] <newperson122> how do you get the live cd installer to not try to check for updates or anything when installing ubuntu?
[04:59] <rnartos> sourgrape: gnome
[04:59] <DrifterSX> kde is kinda lame
[04:59] <sourgrape> anoble - fiddlesticks.  Still dead?
[04:59] <DrifterSX> gnome is way way better
[04:59] <sourgrape> eh, I perosnally hate gnome AND Kde =)
[04:59] <calc> CDE FTW
[04:59] <anoble> sourgrape: runs localboot script like 5 times and craps out
[04:59] <DrifterSX> oh ya, well what DO u like then
[04:59] <kingsley_zissou> sourgrape: Do the ATI proprietary drivers work for Mobility Radeon 9000/9100 IGP in Hardy Heron? I had no problem with desktop effects on Gutsy Gibbon, and I've tried multiple methods of installing the drivers. Possible/Impossible? Workaround?
[05:00] <rhys> anyone know how to change nautulis's security mode for samba?
[05:00] <lnxnwbe> HI, i'v been useing ubuntu off ond on for a while . How do i say thanks to all the people who work on it?
[05:00] <sourgrape> Drifter, my perosnal preference is XFCE4 with SLIM
[05:00] <rhys> I need the "connect to server dialog" to pass the preference "sec=ntlmv2"
[05:00] <anoble> sourgrape: me thinks its a full reinstall time to get to square 1
[05:00] <o0Chris0o> where can I get PyQt 3.13 for kubuntu?
[05:00]  * calc notes CDE is only of the ugliest environments known to man
[05:00] <osiris> why in the world does xorg.conf have almost NOTHING in it in hardy?
[05:00] <osiris> how am I supposed to edit that
[05:00] <sourgrape> Kingsley - that I dno't know.  My laptop has an ATI 7500 mobility and won't run the properitary drivers
[05:00] <rhys> osiris, dont touchy feely with ubuntus undersystem
[05:01] <crdlb> osiris: because everything is autodetected
[05:01] <calc> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/DECwindows-openvms-v7.3-1.png <- :-)
[05:01] <sourgrape> Anoble - probably not a bad idea, start fresh
[05:01] <Jordan_U> calc, It's happily not very 'common' though :)
[05:01] <rhys> ubuntu is not an undersystem kinda distro
[05:01] <AdrianStrays> I'm getting kind of frustrated.  Everytime I log in, the network manager required my admin password.  I followed a guide to fix this, and it made it so my wireless can't connect to ANTHING, even after I deleted the new coding
[05:01] <Scunizi> osiris, xorg I think doesn't  drive the video anymore.
[05:01] <kingsley_zissou> sourgrape: thanks for the reply. it's a shame, will probably downgrade back to gutsy
[05:01] <AdrianStrays> Can someone please help me with this
[05:01] <sourgrape> anoble - I probably installed Ubuntu and Debian about 50 times when I first started
[05:01] <crdlb> kingsley_zissou: do not use fglrx on that card, it does not support it
[05:01] <DrifterSX> XFCE4 with SLIM?? idk what that is
[05:01] <osiris> rhys, what are you talking about ? and its not autodetected
[05:01] <calc> Jordan_U: it was, it just wasn't free so isn't common on FOSS, XFCE started as a CDE clone but luckily didn't stay that ugly
[05:01] <Starnestommy> o0Chris0o: I think it's packaged as python-qt3 or python-qt4 depending on the version of PyQt
[05:01] <osiris> if it was, i wouldnt be booting to 800x600
[05:01] <anoble> sourgrape: yeah i dont want to loose my Winfux partition its got WoW on there
[05:01] <ubuntuROX> Anyone else have multiple USB Drives listed under Places / Computer? even when there are no usb devices plugged in?
[05:01] <kingsley_zissou> crdlb: how do i switch back to glx?
[05:01] <crdlb> kingsley_zissou: fglrx last supported anything below the 9500 with 8.28, which was in Edgy
[05:02] <sourgrape> Anoble - yea, fortunately you can tell the Ubuntu installer to just delete the linux partitiosn
[05:02] <anoble> osiris: im having the same problem, as you
[05:02] <rhys> osfameron, im saying ubuntu gets pissed when you play with its insides. if you have to edit the xorg in ubuntu, you shouldn't be using ubuntu.
[05:02] <crdlb> kingsley_zissou: glx? that's not a driver
[05:02] <rhys> osiris,  i mean
[05:02] <osiris> doesnt anybody that uses ubuntu, actually know how there linux works ?
[05:02] <DrifterSX> XFCE4 with SLIM what is that
[05:02] <amnatz> where is the dual screen configuration GUI ?
[05:02] <ubuntuROX> Or, does anyone know why I might have multiple USB Drives listed under /places / computer when there are no usb drives plugged in at the time?
[05:02] <roshane> earthling pretty cool..http://blog.prashanthellina.com/2007/08/22/matrix-desktop/ how do i get that?
[05:02] <osiris> what happened to inittab ?
[05:02] <rhys> where is the dual screen GUI?
[05:02] <DrifterSX> ive heard of xfce4 but not SLIM
[05:02] <calc> osiris: sure lots of people, eg core-dev and motu for example ;-)
[05:02] <AdrianStrays> I'm getting kind of frustrated.  Everytime I log in, the network manager required my admin password.  I followed a guide to fix this, and it made it so my wireless can't connect to ANTHING, even after I deleted the new coding
[05:02] <sourgrape> SLiM is a replacement for GDM (Gnome Display Manager)
[05:03] <earthling> roshane: yeah.. i dont much about animated wallpapers, though :(
[05:03] <DrifterSX> is it like a "lite" version of gnome kindA?
[05:03] <Scrounch> is it possible to have a GPS (travel, distance..no geolocalisation of course) in a soft @ ubuntu ?
[05:03] <osiris> im not here to bash, but i really expected more from hardy, as dapper was so spectacular
[05:03] <crdlb> kingsley_zissou: you need to remove any attempts at installing fglrx and then reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx, then you can go back to using the "ati" driver
[05:03] <sourgrape> Yea, this is a 5 year old laptop, so I conserver where I can Drifter
[05:03] <calc> osiris: inittab was replaced with upstart i think
[05:03] <DrifterSX> o ok
[05:03] <AdrianStrays> I'm getting kind of frustrated.  Everytime I log in, the network manager required my admin password.  I followed a guide to fix this, and it made it so my wireless can't connect to ANTHING, even after I deleted the new coding
[05:03] <kingsley_zissou> crdlb: all within hh?
[05:03] <cr4z3d> i just upgraded to 8.04 and now my wireless doesn't work. intel pro 3945abg card was using ipw3945 and i hear you need iwl3945 in the new version but doesn't seem to be working
[05:03] <amnatz> and where is SLIM ?
[05:03] <Jordan_U> Scrounch, Google Earth might do that
[05:03] <DrifterSX> mine is a 5 year old desktop and i run beryl
[05:04] <crdlb> kingsley_zissou: of course
[05:04] <calc> osiris: what was so special about dapper?
[05:04] <DrifterSX> 512RAM P4 3.2Ghz
[05:04] <osiris> im running hardy on a 600mhz compaq lappy
[05:04] <amnatz> that was in "screen resolution" in 7.10
[05:04] <sourgrape> cr4z... does the wireless card show up under Restricted Drivers?
[05:04] <kingsley_zissou> crdlb: thank you :-D
[05:04] <calc> osiris: for the most part gnome has looked the same for the past 7 years
[05:04] <o0Chris0o> Starnestommy thanks its packaged as python-qt3
[05:04] <o0Chris0o> :)
[05:04] <amnatz> but i dont find it in 8.04
[05:04] <Dh08> how do i set a home network between my laptop (ubuntu herdy) and my pc (win xp)?? i installed samba, but still i am having problems accessing/sharing files.
[05:04] <sourgrape> Cr4z - I'm sorry, it's called "hardware driverS" now
[05:04] <Scrounch> Jordan_U:  i have tested it, but that's just distance @ road, and i need that for forest too :/
[05:04] <osiris> gnome aside, i run fluxbox or enlightenment anyhow
[05:04] <arooni-mobile> hey ubuntu team!  i recently switched my network from unencrypted => WPA security.  my gutsy laptop had no problem with the change.... but my gutsy desktop (with wireless nic) can't seem to connect to the network............. ideas?
[05:04] <punisher> Hi, all!
[05:05] <sourgrape> Amnatz - SLiM is in the packages, I think I just apt-get'd it
[05:05] <roshane> earthling my problem so far is installing things...and i also have a concern about things i used to do and programs i used to run in windows like Xara Xtreme and graphics software and my games like Call of Duty 4
[05:05] <amnatz> sourgrape : THX!
[05:05] <AdrianStrays> I'm getting kind of frustrated.  Everytime I log in, the network manager required my admin password.  I followed a guide to fix this, and it made it so my wireless can't connect to ANTHING, even after I deleted the new coding
[05:05] <DrifterSX> COD4 is on PC?
[05:05] <o0Chris0o> now I need to figure out how to download and install liquid weather for super karamba
[05:05] <DrifterSX> i Own at that game on PS3
[05:05] <bigfuzzyjesus_> okay, so i got hardy heron, but i cant have sound from firefox and rythmbox at the same time, so if i open rythmbox first, firefox has no sound until i close rythmbox and restart firefox or vice versa
[05:05] <osiris> Dh08, that's cause samba is half busted by default in hardy
[05:05] <Jordan_U> Scrounch, What do you mean 'for forest'? Do you mean following hiking trails or simply as the crow flies?
[05:05] <bigfuzzyjesus_> any ideas?
[05:05] <Scrounch> an multiple checkpoint
[05:05] <Scrounch> and
[05:05] <punisher> can you see my masseges?
[05:05] <osiris> no
[05:05] <ubuntuROX> for games check out urban terror. or open arena.
[05:05] <calc> osiris: thats due to the new gnome (i think, at least aiui)
[05:05] <anoble> nope i cant
[05:05] <DATmafia> im running 8.04 lts in virtualbox, need to enable resolution past 800x600 i tried the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with no success
[05:06] <o0Chris0o> yeah urban terror is pretty sweet
[05:06] <AdrianStrays> I'm getting kind of frustrated.  Everytime I log in, the network manager required my admin password.  I followed a guide to fix this, and it made it so my wireless can't connect to ANTHING, even after I deleted the new coding
[05:06] <punisher> Sorry, my english no good
[05:06] <o0Chris0o> originally a quake 3 mod
[05:06] <punisher> I From russia
[05:06] <osiris> DATmafia, welcome to my world, only no VM
[05:06] <Dh08> any tools out there to make this process easier?
[05:06] <ubuntuROX> I love that game, and open arenas not bad either, just more quakeish
[05:06] <patifa> ?ru
[05:06] <anoble> punisher: privyet
[05:06] <patifa> dangit :|
[05:06] <DrifterSX> open arena sux
[05:06] <DATmafia> osiris	 so im not alone, whew
[05:06] <osiris> DATmafia, and xorg.conf is a wreck now
[05:06] <patifa> !ru
[05:06] <DrifterSX> COD4 is way better
[05:06] <patifa> there you go punisher
[05:06] <sourgrape> DAT - install the tools first "Devices, Install Guest Addons" I think
[05:06] <ubuntuROX> what sux about it?
[05:06] <punisher> anoble: you speak russian?))
[05:06] <AdrianStrays> I'm getting kind of frustrated.  Everytime I log in, the network manager required my admin password.  I followed a guide to fix this, and it made it so my wireless can't connect to ANTHING, even after I deleted the new coding
[05:06] <DrifterSX> pretty much all games for linux sux
[05:06] <earthling> roshane: for games you can try wine. you can find some stuff on googlin as to how to make COD run? but it will be using more CPU when runnin on ubuntu
[05:07] <anoble> punisher: ehh im Ukranian, i remeber a little ;)
[05:07] <bigfuzzyjesus_> okay, so i got hardy heron, but i cant have sound from firefox and rythmbox at the same time, so if i open rythmbox first, firefox has no sound until i close rythmbox and restart firefox or vice versa
[05:07] <absnt> How can I set VLC to be the default media player for everything (including streaming in firefox)
[05:07] <DATmafia> sourgrape	 okay
[05:07] <roshane> earthling why is that so?
[05:07] <DrifterSX> ya me too hat absnt said
[05:07] <osiris> absnt, you will need the vlc plugin for firefox for one
[05:07] <eboyjr> My BitTorrent is not resuming! :( !!
[05:07] <anoble> punisher: kak de la?
[05:08] <earthling> roshane: you are trying to emulate windows on linux using wine
[05:08] <absnt> osiris: I see it in the list of addons but under it it says totem player blahblah
[05:08] <Jordan_U> bigfuzzyjesus, You can try installing libflashsupport but that might make flash less stable
[05:08] <eboyjr> I'm scared
[05:08] <ubuntuROX> I disagree.  I have been perfectly entertained by urban terror, and open arena..
[05:08] <sourgrape> WINE is not an emulator.. ;)
[05:08] <Mimi> QUESTION: What's the command that launches the Add/Remove on the start menu?
[05:08] <osiris> other than that you can use the "prefered applications" menu in preferences
[05:08] <DrifterSX> when i download torrents form isohunt.com it only gives me the option of using transmission (which sux)
[05:08] <Dh08> osiris: any tools out there to make this process easier?
[05:08] <CYREX> hey i have a virus on my pc, is there any antivirus for linux
[05:08] <CYREX> jk
[05:08] <calc> CYREX: clamav
[05:08] <anoble> CYREX: WTF?
[05:08] <Jordan_U> bigfuzzyjesus, You can also try setting all applications to use alsa instead of pulseaudio ( though pulseaudio is pretty cool if you actually use its features )
[05:08] <DrifterSX> how do i choose ktorrent or any other to be my default torrent client
[05:08] <CYREX> hehe
[05:08] <osiris> Dh08, not that i have found.  im still working though it myself in my spare time
[05:09] <ubuntuROX> Or, does anyone know why I might have multiple USB Drives listed under /places / computer when there are no usb drives plugged in at the time?
[05:09] <DrifterSX> anyone?
[05:09] <Mimi> j #ubuntustudio
[05:09] <patifa> If he could actually figure out that he has a linux rootkit, he'd know enough to name it as such ;)
[05:09] <osiris> dont have the time now to spend all day with it
[05:09] <sourgrape> Save the torrent file, righ click it, open with / as / something like that
[05:09] <Mimi> oops
[05:09] <bigfuzzyjesus_> Jordan_U, what is pulseaudio, i have always used alsa
[05:09] <Scunizi> ubuntuROX, a usb hub?
[05:09] <eboyjr> whats the command for bittorrent?
[05:09]  * anoble is going to bed
[05:09] <calc> CYREX: clamav is useful for scanning email for viruses if your isp doesn't do it for you, but they can't infect your linux install :)
[05:09] <DrifterSX> thats what i do
[05:09] <BENSON> BENSON IS HERE
[05:09] <BENSON> BENSON IS SUPERIOR TO ALL OF YOU
[05:09] <CYREX> i know hehe just kidding
[05:09] <calc> CYREX: i used to get a few thousand virus emails a day
[05:09] <ubuntuROX> perhaps built in? didnt show in Gutsy?
[05:09] <BENSON> BENSON WILL TAKE YOUR PANCAKES
[05:09] <Jordan_U> !ops
[05:09] <CYREX> wowwwwwwwww
[05:09] <BENSON> REAL MEN TYPE IN CAPS
[05:10] <DrifterSX> i want firefox to download the torrent straight to something else besides transmission
[05:10] <monkeybritches> Will you leave us the waffles?
[05:10] <CYREX> you got problems man
[05:10] <gnomefreak> Jordan_U: ?
[05:10] <eboyjr> BENSON, My eardrums hurt
[05:10] <Jordan_U> gnomefreak, BENSON
[05:10] <roshane> earthling in terms of antivirus protection like i would need on windows, do i need one now? using ubuntu8.04
[05:10] <DrifterSX> transmission is really crappy and so is BitTorrent
[05:10] <gnomefreak> I saw after i asked
[05:10] <osiris> DrifterSX, transmission is
[05:10] <osiris> ktorrent is great
[05:10] <Raistli1> are there any wubi specialists in the house?
[05:10] <kingsley_zissou> crdlb: how do i enable the ati driver? after reinstalling libgl1-mesa-glx, will it just work as it used to?
[05:10] <bigfuzzyjesus_> Jordan_U, msg okay?
[05:10] <DrifterSX> azureaus, utorrent and bitlord are the only ones worth using and i cant get any of those to work in ubuntu
[05:10] <sourgrape> Jordan - nah.  If you want a decent one to help protect your windows friends, I recommend AVG Llinux
[05:11] <calc> roshane: just to discard virus emails, you can't get infected though
[05:11] <arstanj> hi, where can I get the latest varnish(1.1.2)?
[05:11] <sourgrape> Clam is another good one, open source
[05:11] <Jordan_U> bigfuzzyjesus, Sure
[05:11] <DATmafia> sourgrape	 how do u install those klinds of OS addons?
[05:11] <arstanj> I don't wanna compile myself
[05:11] <calc> roshane: if your isp does it for you then you don't need one
[05:11] <DrifterSX> ktorrent is good but i cant set it to be my default torrent program
[05:11] <earthling> roshane: not realy needed but you some some. search in synaptic.
[05:11] <sourgrape> DAT - which kinds?
[05:11] <Mimi> QUESTION: What's the command that launches the Add/Remove on the start menu? -- also... how can I record the ALSA output to a mp3 or something? Thanks
[05:11] <arstanj> I wanna use backports but there only 1.0.3 version
[05:11] <earthling> roshane: not realy needed but you can if you wanted search in synaptic.
[05:12] <osiris> DrifterSX, ktorrent supports a webUI, a bandwidth schedule, and IP blacklisting.  very handy for managing bandwidth
[05:12] <calc> Mimi: gnome-app-install
[05:12] <bigtimer121> how do i put songs on my ipod???
[05:12] <roshane> o ok...
[05:12] <legend2440> DrifterSX: right click a torrent file>properties>open with and set it to open with a torrent app
[05:12] <DrifterSX> idk what most of that has to do with what i asked tho
[05:12] <Mimi> THanks calc
[05:12] <arooni________aa> help1
[05:12] <crdlb> kingsley_zissou: set Driver to "ati" in Section "Device" your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:12] <eboyjr> QUESTION: What is the command for butttorrent?
[05:12] <osiris> DrifterSX, all features i miss in transmission
[05:12] <crdlb> bah
[05:12] <DrifterSX> friom firefox web browser i can do that legend2440
[05:12] <endo> how can I disable the resticted driver?
[05:12] <DrifterSX> ??
[05:12] <monkeybritches> Mimi: Have you tried Audacity?
[05:12] <eboyjr> bittorrent* excuse me *
[05:12] <sourgrape> I started with ktorrent and utorrent in wine, moved to rTorrent - but it's definitely an acquired taste
[05:12] <roshane> earthling i have others questions but i'm trying to remember them at this time
[05:13] <ubuntuROX> whats wrong with transmission?
[05:13] <endo> sourgrape: transmission is where its at
[05:13] <endo> how can I disable the resticted driver?
[05:13] <DATmafia> sourgrape	 the kind for the addon to change my screen resolution
[05:13] <osiris> ubuntuROX, its a featureless ap
[05:13] <DrifterSX> transmission is too basic and lame
[05:13] <endo> DrifterSX: then use deluge
[05:13] <endo> how can I disable the resticted driver?
[05:13] <roshane> earthling, oh...with compiz, the cube, how do i get it to zoom out when its been rotated?
[05:13] <endo> how can I disable the restricted driver?
[05:13] <sourgrape> endo - yea, I've heard people that like Trans... I'm just used to rTorrent now
[05:13] <osiris> and the "clutch" webUI deb doesnt even work right
[05:13] <DrifterSX> the only thing about linux that i dont like is that its always behind technology and its too basic
[05:14] <DrifterSX> deuge is like utorrent or bitlord??
[05:14] <endo> utorrent
[05:14] <ubuntuROX> really? You can control the download and upload speeds? what else do you need?
[05:14] <endo> how can I disable the restricted driver?
[05:14] <DrifterSX> bitlord was my favorite by far on winblows
[05:14] <osiris> DrifterSX, i have found that statement very wrong
[05:14] <endo> utorrent is the best on windows
[05:14] <osiris> linux is not behind the technology
[05:14] <endo> utorrent
[05:14] <endo> how can I disable the restricted driver?
[05:14] <osiris> endo, add/remove programs ?
[05:15] <o0Chris0o> !repeat
[05:15] <endo> osiris: no, its not in ther
[05:15] <DrifterSX> umm u always see poeple trying to "configure" ipods, mp3 players, psp's, wifi cards, the list goes on
[05:15] <sourgrape> Restriced Drivers (Or "Hardware Drivers" in HH) un-"green" the check box next to the hardware
[05:15] <DrifterSX> u dont need to do ANY of that in winblows(not trying to defend microsuck)
[05:15] <osiris> DrifterSX, and you dont see that in windows ?
[05:15] <patifa> DrifterSX: They want to mess with the settings to make them work.
[05:15] <DrifterSX> no
[05:15] <earthling> roshane: you will have to set the action keys first. i dont remember exactly how? so cant be of much help now :(
[05:15] <DrifterSX> never see that
[05:15] <Alinon> i could use some help installing ubuntu if someone has time
[05:15] <DrifterSX> ever
[05:15] <SiCkNeSs-> has anyone downgraded firefox back to 2?
[05:15] <zionpsyfer> DrifterSX: Can you show me the download page for itunes for linux?
[05:15] <osiris> you have never worked in IT, have you
[05:15] <eross> in a little less than 15 minutes, I just installed 8.04 onto a fresh harddrive :-D
[05:15] <DrifterSX> u plug it in and it works in windows
[05:15] <mneptok> DrifterSX: how is this Linux's fault, though?
[05:15] <warriorforgod> DrifterSX: What is the trouble?
[05:15] <DrifterSX> idk about mac tho
[05:16] <patifa> eross: :)
[05:16] <DrifterSX> its not linux's fault
[05:16] <eross> where do i go from here..
[05:16] <warriorforgod> Alinon: What is the install problem you are having?
[05:16] <DrifterSX> im ranting i sorry
[05:16] <mneptok> DrifterSX: so stop saying it is. :)
[05:16] <patifa> eross: What do you wnat to do?
[05:16] <DrifterSX> i wasnt
[05:16] <eross> i been here before with 6.06, etc..
[05:16] <DrifterSX> u misinterpreted
[05:16] <eross> play games and run game server
[05:16] <ubuntuROX> I think linux is ahead of the technology, somehow it manages to stop me from having to spend hours removing spyware and virus infections from my computers, and they run fast from the day its installed till its time for an upgrade,,, plus I think its kinda nice getting a new toy every six months or so in a new version, and without having to make Mr. Gates richer...
[05:16] <mgregsond> DrifterSX: I agree, your point is valid.
[05:16] <calc> whee need itunes to buy DRM'd music that will at some future date stop working, see MSN music being shut down
[05:16] <eross> dont care too much for flashy gui unless it doesn't slow my gameplay
[05:16] <roshane> earthling what about viewing someone's webcam like i would in MSN messenger, can Pidgin do that? i cant find the feature? is there any other alternative?
[05:16] <mgregsond> DrifterSX: It's getting there though.
[05:16] <osiris> enough politics.  back to problems
[05:17] <mneptok> DrifterSX: Microsoft spent exactly $0 and 0 days making iPods work in Windows. Apple did the work. you want your iPod in Linux? talk to the same people that made it "just work" in Windows. Apple.
[05:17] <DrifterSX> ubunturox thats why i like ubuntu so much, i even have Yellow dog linux on my PS3 and oon ill have suse and fedora
[05:17] <bigtimer121> anyone know how to put songs onto an ipod???
[05:17] <warriorforgod> bigtimer121: I use gtkpod
[05:17] <sourgrape> Rhythmbox works well with my iPod
[05:17] <Alinon> warriorforgod: i've always been able to install ubuntu in the passed, but for some reason with build 8.04 i'm getting a wierd error when the partitioner starts to load stating something about 1024 bytes and something about it being experiemental
[05:17] <earthling> roshane: cant help there either. ask other here
[05:17] <mgregsond> bigtimer121: AmaroK
[05:17] <legend2440> SiCkNeSs-: i did but had to go back to 3. the addons in 2 wouldn't install or uninstall under hardy
[05:17]  * calc is pretty sure if he felt like plugging his ipod into his ubuntu 8.04 laptop it would just work
[05:17] <zionpsyfer> bigtimer121: gtkpod or amarok or rhythmbox
[05:17] <DrifterSX> i hate ipods just using them as a "technology" example since so many poeple have them
[05:17] <warriorforgod> Alinon: Can you give me the exact error message?
[05:17] <DrifterSX> and dont WE want more PEOPLE to use ubuntu
[05:17] <enterusername> hello
[05:17] <mneptok> DrifterSX: it applies to any device.
[05:18] <sourgrape> Drifter - and for a while - iPods didn't work in Windows
[05:18] <eross> the new background is a step up from the usual brown color, I like it
[05:18] <Mimi> !offtopic
[05:18] <DrifterSX> ya for a while
[05:18] <bigtimer121> mgregsond: i use amarok, but when i drag the songs over it won't put it on the ipod. you know what i should check
[05:18] <Alinon> warriorforgod: after that i click ok but the paritioner never starts, i've never the regular installer, wubi and the atlernative install they all do the same thing
[05:18] <monkeybritches> I hate the fact that people think iPod is synonymous with mp3 player
[05:18] <DrifterSX> i cant even get my psp to work on here
[05:18] <mneptok> DrifterSX: define "work"
[05:18] <eboyjr> I like brown... its my favorite color, next to oragne
[05:18] <ubuntuROX> I think its a stupid decision to buy things that are locked into one vendor...
[05:18] <DrifterSX> well i havent tried it in 8.04 but my guess is a big no no
[05:18] <warriorforgod> Alinon: Have you run any disk checks for errors on the drive?
[05:18] <Mimi> !offtopic
[05:18] <mgregsond> bigtimer121: No, I don't have an ipod.  I just know that it tends to work...
[05:18] <roshane> can someone recommend a chat program similar to MSN on windows that i can use to view a webcam? can Pidgin do it?
[05:18] <monkeybritches> Like when my friend was saying she wasnted to get a cheap iPod and couldn't grasp it when I told her there was no such thing.
[05:18] <amrik> Hi, how do I configure Evolution to read an IMAP server for the list of remote folders?
[05:19] <Alinon> yeap it's fine
[05:19] <mneptok> DrifterSX: my PSP mounts and displays its memory card with no fuss in both Gutsy and Hardy
[05:19] <ubuntuROX> skype Roshane
[05:19] <osiris> so does ANYONE know how to force xorg.conf to generate a REAL conf file ?
[05:19] <patifa> amrik: Look for 'subscribe'
[05:19] <DrifterSX> umm change any video file from avi, divx etc to mp4 and transfer it onto my psp all in one click
[05:19] <warriorforgod> Alinon: ext3 filesystem?
[05:19] <Alinon> no it's not
[05:19] <DrifterSX> oo a memory card lol
[05:19] <ubuntuROX> webcam works great in skype
[05:19] <eross> accelerated nvidia =)
[05:19] <milly1234> my generic flash memory usb connected mp3 player is all my fiance needs, just basically a flashdrive with a mp3 player built around it
[05:19] <patifa> amrik: "subscribe" is the keyword in IMAP for dealing with folders and whatnot
[05:19] <Scunizi> roshane, skype or ekiga.. ekiga is typically already installed
[05:19] <mneptok> DrifterSX: well, that's what the PSP does. that's all it does.
[05:19] <Alinon> warriorforgod: it's ntfs but that's what it's always been in the passed too
[05:19] <eross> brb
[05:19] <calc> DrifterSX: there is probably a tool to do that, i stream videos/music/photos from Ubuntu to my PS3, was easy
[05:19] <sourgrape> Skype, Ekiga or aMSN for webcam
[05:19] <DrifterSX> will my webcam form my ps3 (psEyetoy 2) work for skype in ubuntu??
[05:19] <roshane> ubuntuROX does the other person have to have it too?
[05:19] <pinno> anyone having problems putting in the password in the terminal and not being able to type numbers?
[05:20] <mneptok> DrifterSX: PSPvc
[05:20] <warriorforgod> Alinon: So you are installing ubuntu on an NTFS partition?
[05:20] <DrifterSX> ps3 is way more suited for that tho
[05:20] <milly1234> pinno, numlock?
[05:20] <DrifterSX> pspvc NEVER works
[05:20] <roshane> Scunizi the person is using Windows Vista
[05:20] <mneptok> DrifterSX: i have converted every Batman animated episode ever made to PSP format using nothing but Linux.
[05:20] <osiris> pinno, no, but all my keybindings in vi seem wrong now
[05:20] <monkeybritches> osiris: Have you tried configuring it from a console login after a reboot?
[05:20] <ubuntuROX> yes, they will need skype to see your webcam, but its free for windows too
[05:20] <patifa> pinno: I have a bug where my numlock key is lit up upon startup, but isn't actually active till I jab numlock a few times to synchronize the light with the real state of the numlock
[05:20] <DrifterSX> nice job
[05:20] <Scunizi> roshane, amsn or skype then
[05:20] <DrifterSX> i just use pspvideo9
[05:20] <earthling> roshane: ubuntuROX seems to know some thing about webcams ask him
[05:20] <DrifterSX> it does it for me, but not in linux
[05:20] <amrik> patifa: do you mean the "only check subscribed folders" option in receiving email?
[05:20] <mneptok> DrifterSX: works here. and on my girlfriend's machine. and on my friend's machine ruinning Fedora.
[05:20] <osiris> monkeybritches, i cant find an example syntax to go by
[05:20] <pinno> ah kk ill check
[05:21] <lop> hi
[05:21] <DrifterSX> how do i install it??
[05:21] <pinno> well i can type numbers in everything else but in the terminal
[05:21] <eboyjr> I don't like the font that Ubuntu uses for everything... the title bars, application text, 3d objects, etc... Any ideas on how to change this?
[05:21] <DrifterSX> im not compiling or unpacking or whatever
[05:21] <Tixer> I have a problem on a Xubuntu server I manage. The server responds to ping, I can SSH / VNC into it, but it can't access any sites other than the router it uses. I even tried pinging <IP_ADDRESS>, which doesn't work. Any ideas?
[05:21] <osiris> but yes, that is what im intending to do.  didnt know i would need my old xorg.conf for an upgrade
[05:21] <ubuntuROX> roshane skype has windows, mac, and linux clients
[05:21] <roshane> Scunizi can u use synaptic to get amsn?
[05:21] <DrifterSX> i wana click on it and have it install like an exe file
[05:21] <Scunizi> roshane, yes
[05:21] <Don_Miguel> Hello all ...
[05:21] <DrifterSX> sudo apt-get install pspvc?
[05:21] <Don_Miguel> Problem: IDE (working) partitions not visible after Gutsy net-upgrade to Hardy on SATA  note: those IDE still show in BIOS, see Paste: http://pastebin.com/m6cd001d4
[05:21] <pinno> once it asks for a password in the terminal i cant type anything in it
[05:21] <mneptok> DrifterSX: download the package from Sourceforge. install the dependent packages and build-essential, then compile it according to the instructions
[05:21] <sourgrape> system / preferences / appearance
[05:21] <monkeybritches> Type: sudo dpkg-config xserver-xorg
[05:22] <mneptok> DrifterSX: PSPvc has no .deb yet, and is not in the repos
[05:22] <DrifterSX> idk what any of that means except for the download part
[05:22] <arooni-mobileaas> help!  my poor gutsy desktop cant connect to a wpa personal enabled network.  i have installed wpasupplicant.  what should i do?
[05:22] <amrik> patifa: I'm still unsure how to "subscribe" so as to get all my folders to show up
[05:22] <DrifterSX> well there u go
[05:22] <calc> DrifterSX: pspvideo9 uses ffmpeg, which is originally a linux app
[05:22] <osiris> monkeybritches, tried that one already
[05:22] <DrifterSX> this seems to be WAY easy
[05:22] <DrifterSX> i know calc
[05:22] <Alinon> warriorforgod: you get my PM?
[05:22] <osiris> monkeybritches, you dont get a dialog to set resolution
[05:22] <calc> DrifterSX: so just use ffmpeg directly and tell it to output psp format
[05:22] <DrifterSX> ffmpeg never worx for me either
[05:23] <monkeybritches> I meant sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:23] <DrifterSX> i need a gui program i can just click "self explanitory" buttons
[05:23] <andylcp> what is ffmpeg?
[05:23] <Danikar> My windows partition isn't mounting when I first log into Ubuntu. It use to though. How can I make it so that it does?
[05:23] <ubuntuROX> I wonder what video card the developers are running? seems like there is always some bugginess with nvidia and ati drivers.
[05:23] <crdlb> osiris: what video card do you have?
[05:23] <DrifterSX> i dont want to go through all this headache of unpacking, compiling, or whatever
[05:23] <warriorforgod> Alinon: no.
[05:23] <amnatz> slim is not dual screen gui ?!
[05:23] <pinno> got it working thanks for the help
[05:23] <DrifterSX> way too much work, and i usually never do it right and some how mess up my ubuntu
[05:24] <Jordan_U> eboyjr, System -> Preferences -> Appearance, You can also use any microsoft fonts from the "msttcorefonts" package if you don't like those available by default
[05:24] <calc> andylcp: look in synaptic
[05:24] <Scunizi> DrifterSX, learn or revert back to M$
[05:24] <amnatz> what for dual screen ?
[05:24] <mneptok> DrifterSX: so we can sum up your argument with, "Windows really sucks.  ;)
[05:24] <sourgrape> amnatz - slim is a window manager, and it covers both my screens when it comes up
[05:24] <ubuntuROX> LOL
[05:24] <eboyjr> Jordan_U, Oh, yeah.. I had those downloaded already.
[05:24] <roshane> Scunizi what do i use as the log info? the info i used for MSN on windows?
[05:24] <DrifterSX> lol
[05:24] <eboyjr> Thanks
[05:24] <DrifterSX> sure..
[05:24] <earthling> Danikar: pastebin your fstab
[05:24] <calc> DrifterSX: i'm pretty sure clicking install ffmpeg in synaptic doesn't involve any of those steps
[05:24] <andylcp> calc:oh,thank you!I will go
[05:24] <Jordan_U> eboyjr, np
[05:24] <Scunizi> roshane, yes.. it connect to msn
[05:24] <DrifterSX> i wana dual boot vista with hardy soon but im lazy
[05:24] <Scunizi> *connects
[05:24] <Alinon> warriorforgod: mind sending me a PM - it's easier to chat that way heh
[05:24] <balgarath>  anyone here use ies4linux to do all the ie stuff for webpages?  I'm having trouble getting it to view a page on localhost.  says it cannot find server..
[05:25] <DrifterSX> yeah but using ffmpeg never does anything for me
[05:25]  * calc bbl, back to work
[05:25] <DrifterSX> i just fixed synaptic so let me try it
[05:25] <sourgrape> balgarath... can you view the webpage in firefox?
[05:25] <ubuntuROX> Trick to really enjoying linux is to find programs linux native programs to do the stuff you used windows aps for.
[05:25] <calc> DrifterSX: dunno, i never had the time to actually encode a video for my psp
[05:25] <Scunizi> balgarath, with that issue ie4lin won't help
[05:25] <balgarath> sourcode, yes
[05:25] <amrik> Hi I am still stuck. how do I configure Evolution to read an IMAP server for the list of remote folders?
[05:25] <calc> DrifterSX: i just play emu games on it :)
[05:25] <DrifterSX> fixed lol i already in the 1 week having hardy screwed it up 3 times
[05:25] <idyllic> Hi, anyone knows why I can't strace my process (firefox per se)? I got the following output in terminal  read()  = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:25] <ubuntuROX> once you do, you may find the linux programs have more features, or just make more sense to use.
[05:25] <DrifterSX> i keep mine updated
[05:25] <roshane> Scunizi...it works perfect, thank you
[05:26] <Scunizi> roshane, np
[05:26]  * calc should encode some videos for his trip to prague
[05:26] <DrifterSX> i dont wana hack it unbtil i get a slim psp
[05:26] <mneptok> DrifterSX: you need to read something. lemme find it.
[05:26] <Danikar> earthling: http://pastebin.com/m546be0cf
[05:26] <balgarath> Scunizi, are you saying that this is a known problem with ies4linux, or that my problem is not in ies4linux?
[05:26] <DrifterSX> ok brb pm me with it
[05:26] <balgarath> sourgrape, yes
[05:26] <warriorforgod> Alinon: I just send you a pm
[05:26] <earthling> Danikar: going through it now
[05:26] <idyllic> Hi, anyone knows why I can't strace my process (firefox per se)? I got the following output in terminal  read()  = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:26] <calc> DrifterSX: very easy to hack now with pandora battery, offtopic though
[05:27] <DrifterSX> u know i like u guys good people, another eason i like ubuntu sooo much good hearted support
[05:27] <sourgrape> balgarath - curious.  What if you substitude <IP_ADDRESS> for localhost?
[05:27] <Scunizi> balgarath, doesn't sound like it's a prob  with ies4lin.. it uses the same path as FF in ubuntu.. so if FF works so should ies4lin..
[05:27] <osiris> crdlb, VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade i1 (rev 6a)
[05:27] <DrifterSX> calc u need to learn me that stuff
[05:27] <calc> DrifterSX: search on google for "pandora's battery"
[05:27] <earthling> Danikar: which is the win partition?
[05:27] <Danikar> sda1
[05:27] <sourgrape> Drifter - just think - if you stick with it and become a linux expert, you won't have to pay 400 dollars for Windows 2009's "upgrade"
[05:27] <mneptok> DrifterSX: http://artlung.com/smorgasborg/C_R_Y_P_T_O_N_O_M_I_C_O_N.shtml  <--- read the "MGBs, Tanks, and Batmobiles" part. fun stuff.
[05:27] <balgarath> Scunizi, FF works and ies doesn't....
[05:27] <sourgrape> Or however much they are going to charge
[05:27] <balgarath> sourgrape, still won't load - it says The page cannot be displayed now though
[05:27] <osiris> crdlb, PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8601 [Apollo ProMedia AGP]
[05:27] <DrifterSX> ok read in a lil bit
[05:28] <DrifterSX> ty mneptok
[05:28] <calc> sourgrape: well most people don't pay for windows anyway, buy ymmv :)
[05:28] <mneptok> np np
[05:28] <idyllic> Hi, anyone knows why I can't strace my process (firefox per se)? I got the following output in terminal  read()  = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:28] <DrifterSX> anyone read graphic novels here?
[05:28] <sourgrape> calc - I meant, legally =p
[05:28] <DrifterSX> or real books?
[05:28] <amrik> Ok I think I know how to do it. Folder -> Subscriptions and then choose the server you want
[05:28] <calc> sourgrape: its either included from factory on their system, or they get it other ways ;-)
[05:28] <jodekary> has anyone been able to get a BT headset to work with 8.04
[05:28] <N1N31NCHN41L6> hello simple question where do i go to put a terminal option on either dektop or menu bars?
[05:28] <Jordan_U> idyllic, Are you stracing firefox or firefox-bin ?
[05:28] <calc> sourgrape: most people get windows pre-installed i imagine, not illegally
[05:28] <DrifterSX> synaptic shows that i have ffmpeg installed but i dont know how to use it
[05:28] <idyllic> jordan_U: firefox
[05:28] <earthling> Danikar: you dont have the windows partition in the fstab. add it and reboot. it will mount then
[05:28] <arooni_> haha oh noes:  i ran:  sudo apt-get remove network-manager-nome network-manager.............. and now stuff is blown up... i have no connections and i cant get it back with sudo apt-get install.......... what should i do??????
[05:28] <DrifterSX> should i install some sort of "front-end" gui for it??
[05:29] <sourgrape> calc - I'd be it's about half and half... Best Buy is sellin those upgrade boxes to somefools.. er someone
[05:29] <osiris> N1N31NCHN41L6, right click on the menubar and click add application
[05:29] <mneptok> DrifterSX: i can help you get PSPvc set up, since i opened my mouth
[05:29] <hyde> hello what commands need to write so amarok reads my sony mp3
[05:29] <calc> sourgrape: which is why there are so few installs of vista so far, no one wants to buy it but it comes preinstalled so they are stuck with it on new machines
[05:29] <fde> DrifterSX: you already have one  :)
[05:29] <Mattevt> would anyone be able to tell me why the orientation of the (Application Places System) is on the right instead of the left of the taskbar?
[05:29] <Scunizi> balgarath, for ie access to sites that require it I use VMWare server and install an old copy of w2kpro or xp
[05:29] <DrifterSX> ok if u have time im down for iyt
[05:29] <crdlb> osiris: hmm, that's quite obscure :)
[05:29] <calc> sourgrape: very few sales of the upgrades actually
[05:29] <DrifterSX> fde?
[05:29] <Danikar> earthling, Do i need antying for options?
[05:29] <N1N31NCHN41L6> osiris: i didnt see it in the list - which one is it
[05:29] <fde> DrifterSX: if you installed 'gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg' then just play the movie in Totem  :)
[05:29] <ENeGMA> I've been having a lot of stability issues since downloading the 8.04 beta and even the latest updates seem to do nothing to fix them -- is there any way to solve this?
[05:29] <Scunizi> Mattevt, drag it where you want it.
[05:29] <Jordan_U> idyllic, 'firefox' is simply the startup script ( checks for other running instances, used in launchers ) firefox-bin is the actual program
[05:29] <osiris> crdlb, its a 600mhz compaq lappy
[05:29] <iMatter> Uhm how can i disable SELinux or is there a configuration GUI for it?
[05:29] <hyde> hello what commands need to write so amarok reads my sony mp3
[05:29] <hyde> hello what commands need to write so amarok reads my sony mp3
[05:29] <sourgrape> calc - That's music to my ears
[05:29] <hyde> hello what commands need to write so amarok reads my sony mp3
[05:29] <DrifterSX> fde nm ur off my topic i think
[05:29] <FloodBot1> hyde: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:29] <fde> DrifterSX: Applications > Sound & Video > Movie Player
[05:29] <idyllic> jordan_U: there is no firefox-bin in 8.04 . i checked the system monitor
[05:29] <DrifterSX> i hate totem
[05:29] <Mattevt> Scunizi: I can drag the buttons, but the menus don't seem to move
[05:29] <crdlb> osiris: check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log . See if it says VESA or TRIDENT a few dozen times on the left
[05:29] <calc> sourgrape: there were some numbers published a while back about pc sales vs number of vista installs, and its pretty much just preinstalled, very few box sales of vista
[05:29] <osiris> N1N31NCHN41L6, you want the add to panel option
[05:29] <balgarath> Scunizi, thanks for the tip
[05:29] <genii> iMatter: kernel option: selinux=0
[05:30] <earthling> Danikar: what is the partition type for your windows partition?
[05:30] <DrifterSX> vlc only here
[05:30] <ubuntuROX> Microsofts Vista is the best MS product ever...  It caused me to switch to linux :)
[05:30] <sourgrape> bal - does IES have some weird proxy set up for local host?
[05:30] <calc> ubuntuROX: exactly ;-)
[05:30] <fde> DrifterSX: Then install 'vlc' it's in the archive  :)
[05:30] <DrifterSX> lol ubunturox
[05:30] <Danikar> earthling, ntfs?
[05:30] <Danikar> earthling, /dev/sda1 /media/Windows ntfs default 0 0 is what i think i need
[05:30] <hyde> hello what commands need to write so amarok reads my sony mp3
[05:30] <DrifterSX> i ahve it duhsky
[05:30] <calc> ubuntuROX: actually vista isn't that bad if you reinstall it cleanly getting rid of all the crud from factory
[05:30] <hyde> hello what commands need to write so amarok reads my sony mp3
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> !mp3 | hyde
[05:30] <fde> DrifterSX: That is a front end for ffmpeg....
[05:30] <N1N31NCHN41L6> no i want to add a terminal shortcut to ppanel or desktop
[05:30] <N1N31NCHN41L6> osiris:
[05:30] <calc> ubuntuROX: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=120228/
[05:30] <Scunizi> Mattevt, you might have to right mouse click the area and unlock
[05:30] <DrifterSX> vista is actually pretty cool SOMETIMES
[05:30] <ENeGMA> Vista didn't crash on me as much as 8.04 is
[05:31] <DrifterSX> i hate all the spyware on any windows machine tho
[05:31] <ubuntuROX> LOL,, but "not bad" is not as good as my Ubuntu systems :)
[05:31] <Jordan_U> idyllic, Hmm, let me see if firefox-3 still uses a separate launcher script...
[05:31] <calc> ubuntuROX: note that doesn't circumvent any licensing or anything, just reinstalls an OEM system without the crap
[05:31] <earthling> Danikar: u have to be sure
[05:31] <DrifterSX> i just wish we could use directX10 or 11 or whatever it is now
[05:31] <idyllic> Jordan_U: thank you. I can't even strace -f <PID/any process>. I tried with opera as well. Same error
[05:31] <balgarath> sourgrape, no I don't believe so
[05:31] <Danikar> earthling, Oh well it is definetly ntfs.
[05:31] <N1N31NCHN41L6> osiris: can it be done?
[05:31] <calc> i reinstalled vista on my laptop on sunday to test out some hard drive stuff (the hdparm -B 254 thing)
[05:32] <Danikar> earthling, Do i need to know anything else about it
[05:32]  * Scunizi thinks DrifterSX is either really new to linux or just trolling
[05:32] <sessh1234> k i just switched to ubuntu 8.04 from gentoo, in gentoo i had rc-update for modifying runlevels, is there an ubuntu equivalent?
[05:32] <DrifterSX> im not new to linux lol
[05:32] <DrifterSX> but not all that seasoned either
[05:32] <sourgrape> Balgarath - it's boggling me noggin.  Did that tip work from Scunzi?
[05:32] <Scunizi> DrifterSX, then you must be trolling
[05:32] <DrifterSX> i get by alot better now
[05:32]  * mneptok points DrifterSX to a /msg window
[05:32] <fde> sessh1234: apt-cache search runlevel ... update-rc.d is popular.
[05:32] <Mattevt> Scunizi: "Lock to Panel" is unchecked...I don't think the (Applications Places System) menus are moveable...I can move the buttons along the taskbar, just not the three main menus
[05:32] <ubuntuROX> I agree,, vista is not bad,  It was the bomb for me,,  like I said,, it made me take another look at linux and now I am delighted..
[05:32] <DrifterSX> im trying to get calc to help me get pspvc working
[05:32] <earthling> Danikar: type fdisk -l as super user and tell the partition showing ntsf
[05:32] <sessh1234> thanks
[05:32] <amnatz> root@natousayni-laptop:/home/natousayni# slim
[05:32] <amnatz> Segmentation fault
[05:32] <amnatz> dualscreen
[05:32] <N1N31NCHN41L6> i seem to think i saw something in add/remove once that put a terminal in the takbars - but cant find it now
[05:33] <calc> DrifterSX: oh pspvc, i have no idea about it at all, don't have a ps3 camera
[05:33] <amnatz> what may i do next ?
[05:33] <calc> DrifterSX: someone else was talking about pspvc
[05:33] <Danikar> earthling, earthling, /dev/sda1 /media/Windows ntfs default 0 0
[05:33] <fde> sessh1234: Remember, on Debian/Ubuntu 2-5 are the same thing by default.
[05:33] <Scunizi> Mattevt, try to add another application menu to the bar and place it where you want it.. if it works delete the other  one.
[05:33] <DrifterSX> someone was gona show me how pspvc works, not the damn ca,mera calc
[05:33] <Danikar> earthling, bah miscopy
[05:33] <Danikar> earthling, /dev/sda1   *           1       20550   165067843+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:33] <DrifterSX> must be mne
[05:33] <balgarath> sourgrape, his suggestion was to install an old copy of windows to a VMware server...I won't be able to get to that for a while
[05:33] <sessh1234> is there a gnome app for bringing down a terminal from the top of the screen with ~
[05:33]  * calc bbl, work
[05:33] <Alinon> when i try to install Ubuntu i get a message during scanning that says something like device /hda or whatever has a logical sector size of 2048 - not all parts of gnu parted support this at the moment and working code is highly experimental
[05:33] <DrifterSX> ok ok ill brb
[05:34] <earthling> Danikar: k
[05:34] <crdlb> sessh1234: tilde
[05:34] <sourgrape> balgarath ... last dumb quesitn.  What if you put the real IP address of your workstation into IE intead of localhost?  Still epic fail?
[05:34] <InfernoX222> does neone know how to get madwifi-source to install? apt-get install madwifi-source dosnt work and synaptic dosnt have it either
[05:34] <Scunizi> sessh1234, yes.. I just read about it the other day.. but for the life of me I can't remember the name.
[05:34] <Alinon> this happens when the the partitioner starts...but it just sits there forever
[05:34] <osiris> crdlb, trident
[05:34] <ubuntuROX> whats with real player?  I had to do the bin install, then remove the mplayer plugins to for rm to get it to work.  Should be a package that does all that
[05:34] <fde> sessh1234: Same one you used in Gentoo... apt-cache search <whatever-you-used-in-gentoo> ... it'll be in Ubuntu, I'd bet  :)
[05:34] <ENeGMA> is there any solution to the problem with sound dropping out in 8.04?
[05:34] <earthling> Danikar: your entry will be some thing like " /dev/sda1  /mnt/sda1  ntfs uid=1000,gid=100 0 0"
[05:34] <sessh1234> i didnt have it in gentoo
[05:34] <sessh1234> it was a kde thing
[05:34] <sessh1234> ive seen it before
[05:35] <sessh1234> i wanted know if gnome had something similar
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> ENeGMA, cutting out while on battery?... i don't have it in kde if that's a plus
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> or work around
[05:35] <Scunizi> sessh1234, that's what I was referring to
[05:35] <earthling> Danikar: you will have to create /mnt/sda1 or have at a place convinient to you
[05:35] <ENeGMA> no, on ac
[05:35] <N1N31NCHN41L6> i want a terminal shortcut on desktop or in menu nars
[05:35] <hydrogen> yakuake is the kde program
[05:35] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: hey i know you from mgalug
[05:35] <hydrogen> If theres a gnome one i'm sure its not as good
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> yup
[05:35] <Fezzler> Pelo?
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> cool sessh1234
[05:35] <N1N31NCHN41L6> sessh1234:  there is - i saw it before - looking fo now
[05:35] <sourgrape> Nine - right click the terminal menu item in the menus
[05:36] <Danikar> earthling, ok. Its so weird Gutsy always did it for me =\
[05:36] <Scunizi> N1N31NCHN41L6, find terminal in the menu .. right mouse click and choose place on panel or whatever
[05:36] <balgarath> sourgrape, that got it, as long as I put http:// in front of the IP
[05:36] <Mattevt> Scunizi: thanks. I think I can work with this
[05:36] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: lol, no one talks there anymore though
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> i'm famous.. in HPR episode 83 Xoke "stole" my tux penguin
[05:36] <balgarath> sourgrape, thanks for the suggestions :)
[05:36] <sourgrape> balgarath - wel at least you havea  temp work around.  It's going to bug me that localhost isn't working
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> sessh1234, true
[05:36] <Scunizi> Mattevt, many ways  to skin a cat.. or heron :)
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> people are just too busy here
[05:36] <Danikar> earthling, thanks
[05:36] <earthling> Danikar: k
[05:37] <sourgrape> balgarath - makes me think that IE4Linux is hijacking localhosts/127 subnet somehow
[05:37] <labmgr> kjashdkjash dkjashda
[05:37] <sessh1234> yeah, lol
[05:37] <labmgr> kjashdjksa dkjsahdas
[05:37] <labmgr> kajsdhaksjhd jksadas
[05:37] <labmgr> kjasdhjksah dkjsa
[05:37] <labmgr> kjashdkjsa dkjsad
[05:37] <FloodBot1> labmgr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:37] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: do you know any linux computer shops or companies in the area
[05:37] <balgarath> sourgrape, lol...I just noticed that http://localhost works, I was just typing localhost - its an M$ thing I guess
[05:38] <sourgrape> Woot!
[05:38] <N1N31NCHN41L6> Scunizi: u ROCK thanks a million
[05:38] <iMatter> i just installed clamAV and during the setup it shows this Not creating home directory `/var/lib/clamav'. WARNING: local host name (son9524-laptop) is not qualified; see cf/README: WHO AM I?
[05:38] <Scunizi> N1N31NCHN41L6, :)  thanks
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> sessh1234, there's one group in Macon... guy does installs all over the state for schools mostly using Fedora... but i don't remember the name.
[05:38] <Jordan_U> balgarath, My dad has that same bug with IE in windows so that seems to be it :)
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> I think tux solutions
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> is the name
[05:38] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: its not LSP J. Robinson is it
[05:38] <sourgrape> Balgarath - you're right there, I think with IE intergration, it tries to connect via SMB first, probably blows up in IE4linux
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> ya
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> sure is
[05:39] <FloodBot1> nomasteryoda: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:39] <sessh1234> i met him waaaaay back
[05:39] <fde> balgarath: Nah, you can type it in a terminal... look at /etc/hosts for some aliases... browsers require a protocol though... even file:// is a protocol  ;)
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> grr... not punctuating dams block my thoughts ... bots... hate hem...
[05:39] <nxusr> how do you make a statement with the *(asterik) preceding ?
[05:39] <sessh1234> lol
[05:39] <balgarath> Jordan_U, I've been away from windows for so long...I find it takes me longer to figure out problems on friend's computers.  Everytime I work on one, my decision to switch to Ubuntu gets reinforced :)
[05:39]  * sourgrape doesn't know
[05:40] <sacamano> how do you add a simple password to a wireless router? like UBUNTU. is it wpa, or wep?
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> sessh1234, so where you now? in GA still?
[05:40] <Scunizi> nxusr, /me
[05:40] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: yeah
[05:40] <sourgrape> heh I always use /action blahblah
[05:40] <InfernoX222> does anyone know if there is another 'automatic' way to download madwifi-source? apt-get install madwifi-source aptitude and synaptic all do not have it
[05:40]  * nxusr thanks Scunizi
[05:40] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: i quit compunet though, they kinda sux
[05:40] <sven_oostenbrink>  I need to automate a task where I daily copy some 500 files from some 50 different directories to a remote FTP server.. Im looking at the ftp command but I don't see how I can automate that (like specifying the user name, password, etc).. How could I automate this task?
[05:40]  * Scunizi :)'s @ nxusr
[05:40] <fde> balgarath: I don't recommend changing anything in there though unless you know what you're doing  :)
[05:40] <BROOM[A]> « Away On » Reason: sleeping « Since 12:40:am / Pager: OFF »
[05:40] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: so if you know anyone hiring, plz let me know, even windows shops, lol
[05:41] <adnaps> hi there, im having troubles with with my wireless adapter automatically starting. atm i need to ifconfig ra0 up to get it working. i have added a script in init.d and done update-rc.d ifwifi default but its still not working on startup ... any ideas?
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> sessh1234, they did not impress me. sessh1234 LOL
[05:41] <balgarath> fde, I've learned not to change a lot of things the hard way :)  (or, more specifically, backup what I am changing)
[05:41] <earthling> having problem with sify wifi.. anyone?
[05:41] <tr-33> hello, anyone here familiar with certifications?
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> i would like to know of any ... but m ostly Linux shops...
[05:41] <genii> sven_oostenbrink: the ftp command does not have any syntax to automate entering of passwords and commands
[05:41] <Mathman> balgarath: eh, just know how to change it back
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> earthling, working good here... but then again, I don't use the net-applet... i use wicd
[05:41] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: well, i worked there for like 2 or three years and then they switched the linux ids stuff to sonicwall crap and i couldnt take it anymore
[05:41] <sourgrape> Sven - not that I can help, but I belive perl or another scripting language is your solution.
[05:41]  * DIL wha
[05:42] <TheToff> msg ubotu etiquette
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> nice one..
[05:42] <sven_oostenbrink> genii> then how could I automate FTP?
[05:42] <mojo> Little help please with problematic gutsy-server > hardy-server upgrade.  Server is headless.  Updated/Upgraded Gutsy and ran do-release-upgrade over an SSH connection.  Fell asleep before it finished, found SSH session terminated after sitting there prompting me about a config file update.  Had to shut down, install video card, kbd, monitor, and ran the update/upgrade & do-release-upgrade from console.  Fails to find new release.  "sudo
[05:42] <mojo> dpkg --configure -a" gives this result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8828/  THANKS!
[05:42] <sourgrape> Sven - I've seen it done in Perl before, I just don't have access to those scripts anymore to show you
[05:42] <genii> sven_oostenbrink: Perhaps you may want to look at rsync instead
[05:42] <earthling> nomasteryoda: did you have atheros card
[05:43] <sven_oostenbrink> sourgrape> I could do it in PHP :) But need it done in bash
[05:43] <sourgrape> ah
[05:43] <ubuntuROX> sven its easy
[05:43] <sessh1234> lol, well thanks for all the help ppl.  i gotta go for now
[05:43] <balgarath> you guys recommend any specific hardware to go with/stay away from when building a desktop?  or and good companies that build linux computers (cheaply)?
[05:43] <sessh1234> nomasteryoda: later yo
[05:43] <TheToff> Hi all, I have a problem with USB headphones after a Heron upgrade, any sound gurus about?
[05:43] <ubuntuROX> hold a sec.
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> ah... nope.. I have intel card... thought I know one person with an atheros... he's been using hardy since alpha 2
[05:43] <sven_oostenbrink> genii> rsync does FTP? one problem is, locally Im talking about 50 different directories, remote about 1 only.. and its a one way copy only as well
[05:43] <adnaps> where do i place a script to perform ifconfig ra0 up on startup?
[05:43] <ubuntuROX> Ill get you the script to ftp from the command line
[05:43] <kneeki> Before I ask here, is there a WoW channel I should ask my questions in for playing WoW on ubuntu? :)
[05:44] <sourgrape> Bal - not wanting to start a flame war... but in my limited experience - intel procs, intel chipsets, nvidia video.
[05:44] <balgarath> kneeki, #wine?
[05:44] <testify> Is it possible now, with the authentication requirement, to easily configure a static IP connection to a WPA wireless network?
[05:44] <eboyjr> theres 14 people on #wow
[05:44] <fde> mojo: please try to install lunux-image-2.6.24-server explicitly and paste the results to me, thanks
[05:44] <DIL> balgarath: tigerdirect/compusa is a good source for components ASUS mobo
[05:44] <Jordan_U> sven_oostenbrink, Can you use keys to login rather than a password?
[05:44] <kneeki> balgarath, that's probably a good start. thanks!
[05:44] <eboyjr> ##wow i mean
[05:44] <Flannel> kneeki, balgarath, it's #winehq, but see also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[05:44] <Mathman> balgarath: go with supermicro boards.  intel chipsets.  seagate disks, with a good long warranty.  raid if you're able.  nvidia video cards.  good companies?  eh, you get more for your dollar just building something yourself
[05:44] <genii> sven_oostenbrink: You may find some bash scripts to modify for that purpose here http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/autoftp.shtml
[05:44] <earthling> nomasteryoda: what was your wireless card type? i ahve been trying to get atheros card working for ages and it never seemes to take off..
[05:45] <adnaps> Anyone? Where to place a script for ifconfig ra0 up for startup?
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> which model earthling ?
[05:45] <sven_oostenbrink> genii> Just heard of lftp, seems to be able to do the job
[05:45] <Don_Miguel> Hello again, it has been about 22 minutes now so trying again:
[05:45] <Don_Miguel> Repeat #1, this morning: Problem: IDE (working) partitions not visible after Gutsy net-upgrade to Hardy on SATA  Note1: those IDE still show in BIOS, Note2: but NOT in partition manager ! ... see Paste: http://pastebin.com/m6cd001d4
[05:45] <balgarath> thanks all
[05:45] <Scunizi> earthling, mine works on server install.
[05:45] <sourgrape> genii - you rule, nice link
[05:45] <amnatz> dualscreen GUI w nvidia : twinview
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> adnaps, try /etc/modprobe ?
[05:45] <N1N31NCHN41L6> i was told to do this delete /boot/grub - but its says delete: comand not found - what do i use
[05:45] <sven_oostenbrink> genii> thanks, I'll check the link!
[05:45] <amnatz> thx for help sourgrape
[05:45] <genii> sourgrape: Thanks
[05:45] <amnatz> ++
[05:45] <adnaps> nomasteryoda : will try, thanks
[05:45] <Flannel> Don_Miguel: they've been mapped to SATA.  they're all sdX's now
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> look into the folder... or some files there
[05:46] <earthling> nomasteryoda: athros n5523
[05:46] <Scunizi> N1N31NCHN41L6, who told you to delete /boot/grub.. that's what start your system
[05:46] <sourgrape> amnatz - well, it was worth what you paid for it :)  Good luck
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> ... if not, then look at the session manager for gnome adnaps
[05:46] <Jordan_U> N1N31NCHN41L6, By whom were you told to delete /boot/grub ? In most cases that will prevent your system from booting
[05:46] <mojo> fde::  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8830/
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> down under system, session
[05:46] <Mathman> balgarath: sun puts out some really sweet systems if you want to have a name brand behind it.  hp if you don't want to spend as much as sun costs.  spose it depends on your situation really
[05:46] <Don_Miguel> Flannel: thanks, I'll go look ... again!
[05:46] <mojo> fde::  and thanks for looking :)
[05:46] <Alinon> i have the exact error message now - this is what i get when the Ubuntu partitioner begins to scan my hdd's - WARNING device /dev/dss has a logical sector size of 2048.  Not all parts of GNU parted support this at the moment, and the working code is high experiemental.  Then it just sits where scanning but never does anything.
[05:46] <roshane> new help..i'm not getting some videos to play online
[05:46] <mojo> roshane::  format?
[05:46] <shthap3ns> hi all, i'm running HH(server). could someone kindly tell me the command to install the GUI desktop?
[05:47] <Jordan_U> roshane, Try right clicking them and "open in totem movie player"
[05:47] <balgarath> Mathman, I'll probably take your advice and build myself
[05:47] <fde> mojo: Take a look at /etc/apt/sources.list ... has it been changed to hardy?
[05:47] <N1N31NCHN41L6> i need to delete - then sudo grub-install /dev/sda  then sudo update-grub - i got 2 os and the grub only lets me run one
[05:47] <Flannel> shthap3ns: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:47] <roshane> flash
[05:47] <mojo> shthap3ns::  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[05:47] <shthap3ns> thanks, Flannel!
[05:47] <Flannel> shthap3ns: You'll (probably) also want to switch to the generic kernel, if you plan on using this as a desktop machine
[05:47] <earthling> nomasteryoda: its a wireless ethernet adapter. not a wifi card you put in the laptop slot but one that has a big antena that goes to the roof top. SUB-326 i guess
[05:47] <sourgrape> balgarath - nothing like cutting your hands on your own PC's sheet metal case =)
[05:47] <Alinon> anyone have a clue as to what the deal is? i've never had problems installing ubuntu until 8.04
[05:47] <fde> mojo: Also, in this particular case, don't use aptitude, it is far better in most cases, but may be compounding the issue currently...
[05:47] <N1N31NCHN41L6> any ideas
[05:47] <dragonSteel> yo
[05:47] <Jaggednz> roshane: Installed Ubuntu extras ?
[05:48] <eboyjr> Flannel, you are on here a lot, correct?
[05:48] <balgarath> sourgrape, been there :)
[05:48] <shthap3ns> Flannel: i'm still going to run it as a server. i'm just too noob to use the command line :(
[05:48] <bjron> hmm,  just installed xubuntu on a machine and it seems the max resolution is 600x800 according to display settings.  I had a look at the xorg.conf and it seems pretty minimal these days (no mention of allowed resolutions even), so where is the settings manager getting them?
[05:48] <BIOHazard87> Hey all :)
[05:48] <roshane> jaggednz not sure
[05:48] <Jordan_U> roshane, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree && sudo apt-get remove gnash #In case you have gnash and unless you actually want it
[05:48] <Flannel> shthap3ns: Ah, you may want xubuntu-desktop then instead, it's more lightweight
[05:48] <Mathman> balgarath: you get the same support really, warranties and all that.  but then if you need 200 systems by next week, well, I dunno.
[05:48] <earthling> Scunizi: what did u mean by server install?
[05:48] <N1N31NCHN41L6> fde - when installing anothoe desktop aptitude works great for me
[05:48] <Scunizi> N1N31NCHN41L6, maybe just try the update gub line
[05:48] <Flannel> eboyjr: that's a safe assumption
[05:48] <eboyjr> Why is there an op called FloodBot1?
[05:48] <ubuntuROX> sven,, accept that file, its has the bash script for ftp
[05:48] <sourgrape> mmmm Xubuntu... crunchy goodness
[05:48] <Starnestommy> eboyjr: it's used to stop flooding
[05:48] <N1N31NCHN41L6> after the install - there is NO gub on my puppy linux os
[05:49] <BIOHazard87> Does anyone have problems with their Volume Manager crashing in Ubuntu 8.04,  which breaks sound, also it prevents you from pressing the Power button on the top right
[05:49] <Scunizi> earthling, I have server installed and running on wireless
[05:49] <shthap3ns> Flannel: gotcha. so: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop?
[05:49] <Jordan_U> eboyjr, It's a bot which bans people if they start flooding, the human ops all op themselves only when needed
[05:49] <fde> N1N31NCHN41L6: Aptitude is awesome... I use it almost exclusively, but it tries to install Suggests by default, and thus widens the realm of the possible issues...
[05:49] <eboyjr> Starnestommy, Oh, okay lol
[05:49] <Flannel> shthap3ns: Yep
[05:49] <mojo> fde::  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8831/  (short answer yes)
[05:49] <Scunizi> earthling, w/ atheros chipset
[05:49] <kravlin> I just upgraded to Hardy. Unfortunately the sudo command returns sudo: unable to resolve host Evidence. While evidence is the name of the computer i'm kinda stuck. can someone help?
[05:49] <fde> N1N31NCHN41L6: There is a switch to turn it off, but meh
[05:49] <shthap3ns> Flannel: thanks much!
[05:49] <Flannel> !hostname | kravlin
[05:49] <earthling> Scunizi: great !!! how are you making it work?
[05:49] <Flannel> kravlin: you can reboot to the recovery console to fix it if you need to
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> earthling, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=473379&page=4
[05:50] <Alinon> whenever i try to install Ubuntu, i boot from the disc, then i get to the point where the partitioner starts then i get this message:  WARNING device /dev/dss has a logical sector size of 2048.  Not all parts of GNU parted support this at the moment, and the working code is high experiemental.  Then it just sits where scanning but never does anything.
[05:50] <Scunizi> earthling, I had to install the restricted drivers
[05:50] <fde> mojo: update and try to reinstall that package perhaps?
[05:50] <kravlin> Flannel: the question is how do i fix it.
[05:50] <Jaggednz> roshane: Ubuntu restricted extras
[05:50] <mojo> fde::  E: Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6.24-server
[05:50] <mojo>   (using apt-get to install
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> earthling, following the methods of ndiswrapper it would seem... should do it... get the windows driver from the mfg site and using ndiswrapper
[05:50] <Mathman> kravlin: eh, /etc/hosts is all that matters I bet really.  unless you went mucking about with /etc/nsswitch.conf or something.  but yeah, it wouldn't hurt to get all that junk consistent anyhow.
[05:50] <earthling> nomasteryoda: going throughnit now
[05:50] <N1N31NCHN41L6> fde - just saying i had betterl luck installing xubuntu deskyop with aptitutude
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:51] <testify> Is it still not possible to setup a static IP wireless WPA network using network-manager?
[05:51] <roshane> Jordan_U install the flashplugin and its still not working
[05:51] <N1N31NCHN41L6> hey why would a comp run faster with ubuntu and compiz than it did just straight xubuntu
[05:51] <Jordan_U> mojo, sudo apt-get install linux-image-server
[05:51] <mojo> fde::  what is the proper package name?  i'd check w/synaptic on my desktop but it's amd64 arch vs i386 on the server
[05:51] <roshane> Jordan_U its just saying loading
[05:51] <fde> mojo: There is no reason it shouldn't be able to find that package after 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-16-server
[05:51] <Flannel> kravlin: the info ubottu gave you talks about how to fix it
[05:51] <Jordan_U> roshane, Can you give an example link?
[05:51] <Don_Miguel> Flannel: the only SDs I see are those from the original Gutsy install ... and none of the IDEs appear now.  Any hints for finding them again ?
[05:51] <earthling> nomasteryoda: i tried ndiswraper.. i have amd64.. could that be that i require 64bit driver?
[05:52] <adnaps> nomasteryoda : where in modprobe.d?
[05:52] <Mathman> N1N31NCHN41L6: define faster
[05:52] <Flannel> Don_Miguel: All of your IDE drives should be in /dev/ under sdX, do `sudo fdisk -l`
[05:52] <Fezzler> I upgraded to Hardy.  Where do I check my monitor is correctly selected?  Desktop Effects EXTRA! doesn't work anymore.
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> hang on adnaps
[05:52] <roshane> Jordan_U http://video.xnxx.com/video15432/Hot_Girls_by_the_Pool not the best link but hey
[05:52] <balgarath> OT, but anyone know of a good writeup explaining all the different intel processors? I've not kept up at all
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> earthling, if there is one... i would try it...
[05:52] <fde> mojo: ahh... throw the -16- part in when explicitly installing it...
[05:52] <Flannel> balgarath: #ubuntu-offtopic would be the place for that
[05:52] <nomasteryoda> if you are using 64bit version of ubuntu
[05:52] <N1N31NCHN41L6> Mathman: everything from program response time to opening a terminal to computing to office functions
[05:52] <DIL> Alinon, how is your disk formatted
[05:53] <balgarath> Flannel, will do
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> adnaps, would be a better place for the ifup command... under networking
[05:53] <Shadow_X> how do I change the resolution used when Ubuntu shows its splash screen during bootup?
[05:53] <Don_Miguel> Flannel: OK, going to try that  sudo fdisk -l     thanks ...
[05:53] <DATmafia> if i screwed up my resolution so i can't read it-how do u change it back really quickl
[05:53] <earthling> nomasteryoda,Scunizi: thanks people .. if it works out i will let u know!!!
[05:53] <Jordan_U> roshane, Works fine here :) ( but in the future please don't post questionable links, this channel is supposed to be 'family friendly )
[05:53] <Hellsadvocate> hey guys, quick question, in ubuntu for my macbook pro, everytime i try to close the lid while ubuntu is on, it makes this High pitched sound.
[05:53] <ubuntuROX> put the backup copy of xorg.conf you made before you screwed it up back :)
[05:54] <fde> mojo: The original command correctly attempted that though, but I'm guessing it hadn't updated yet at that point...
[05:54] <DATmafia> :)
[05:54] <N1N31NCHN41L6> so know idea on what to use instead of the command delete
[05:54] <ruben> Hi all. We had a problem with our windows2K server and I had to come up with a new server. I used ubuntu. The server has 2 partitions. In one of them we installed a program, but since we no longer have Terminal Services, we cant open it.
[05:54] <TheToff> HH sound problem:  I can get my USB headphones working under some applications but not others.  Prior to upgrade VLC worked fine with them, now not so much.  Anyone have any ideas?
[05:54] <Jordan_U> roshane, Did you also check to make sure that gnash was not installed?
[05:54] <fde> N1N31NCHN41L6: rm ?
[05:54] <roshane> Jordan_U sorry, i just couldnt find a better example because youtube works fine
[05:54] <adnaps> nomasteryoda : yes, i added ifconfig ra0 to interfaces in /etc/network/ but it didnt do a thing
[05:54] <Mathman> N1N31NCHN41L6: short answer?  gnome with compiz works better than xfce on your setup.  at least seemingly at any rate.  hate to nitpick, but I don't suppose you've been very scientific about your benchmarks here.
[05:54] <ruben> Is it possible to install something like terminal services to share that windows program under ubuntu?
[05:54] <fde> N1N31NCHN41L6: rm -r or rmdir removes directories...
[05:54] <mojo> fde::  Jordan_U::  see http://paste.ubuntu.com/8833/
[05:55] <mojo> fde::  i did the sudo aptitude update
[05:55] <nomasteryoda> adnaps, ok.. so did you have to issue a modprobe for that wireless driver?
[05:55] <Jordan_U> roshane, That sounds like gnash, it works with youtube but not most other sites, please try removing gnash
[05:55] <adnaps> nomasteryoda : nope, after compiling the driver i had to insmod but never had to modprobe it
[05:55] <roshane> Jordan_U how do i do that?
[05:55] <N1N31NCHN41L6> Mathman: how can i be scientific - xubuntu used to lock up all the time - ubuntu and compiz DONT
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> ah... so is it loaded now?
[05:56] <Jordan_U> roshane, sudo apt-get remove gnash
[05:56] <N1N31NCHN41L6> and its a PIII with 256RAM
[05:56] <AnthroTechie> Hey, I just upgraded to 8.04 and have installed advanced-desktop-effects-settings, but I it still says "desktop effects could not be enabled"
[05:56] <fde> mojo: At that point, I'd have you take a look at the post-inst script... and at least have it pointing to the right file, but I'd rather not assist someone else with that...
[05:56] <adnaps> nomasteryoda : im using it :p i just want it to start automatically and be recognised by network manager
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> ic
[05:56] <Mathman> N1N31NCHN41L6: well now you're changing the whole story around anyway.  I thought xfce was just slow.  now it's crashing all the time.
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> doh
[05:56] <fde> mojo: My public answer: Backup important files, and reinstall .... apologies
[05:57] <Hellsadvocate> Anyone? know how to solve this?
[05:57] <Fezzler> It seems like when I turn on Extra Visual Effects it changes my Advanced Desktop Setting and visa versa
[05:57] <roshane> Jordan_U what should i see to know that it was successfully removed?
[05:57] <mojo> fde::  i run webmin on it and backed up the modules i use.  is that enough?
[05:57] <fde> mojo: I have no idea as I refuse to use webmin...
[05:58] <Xulthus> why not
[05:58] <Mathman> Hellsadvocate: screw around with the bios?  change it from s1 to s3 or whatever as far as the apci hibernate or whatever the heck goes?
[05:58] <N1N31NCHN41L6> Permission denied
[05:58] <adnaps> nomasteryoda : for some reason my network manager isnt loading anymore either :( but before i had to right click > disable networking then right click > enable networking to get it to recognise
[05:58] <fde> mojo: backing up /etc/ and whatever services you have should be enough.
[05:58] <mojo> you have a better suggestion for admin of a headless server/router?
[05:58] <z0rz> I'm running Ubuntu Gutsy Gibson and I installed mybuntu-desktop.  It told me the sql password and I clicked forward.  It said the installation was complete (but I never got the screen that asked if I wanted to setup a frontend/backend) so I rebooted.  Now instead of a ubuntu logo on boot I have the mythbuntu logo... and it get's stuck there
[05:58] <fde> mojo: ssh
[05:58] <roshane> Jordan_U its still just saying loading
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> adnaps, did you try installing wicd instead?
[05:58] <mojo> fde::  i use that too
[05:58] <ubuntuROX> Does anyone know if the 64bit version is pretty stable and works well with flash and the usual stuff now?
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> its on wicd.sourceforge.net
[05:58] <Jordan_U> mojo, I might be able to help, wait a second
[05:58] <adnaps> nomasteryoda : i have not ... ill give it a go now
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> just my suggestion
[05:59] <mojo> fde::  webmin makes some easier for me, esp. squid and shorewall
[05:59] <fde> mojo: Webmin tends to break things for me, and isn't at all secure.
[05:59] <nomasteryoda> it will remove net-applet...
[05:59] <anachronoks> I've been having some serious problems with Hardy that weren't present with Feisty. Mostly related to audio/video, but also where Firefox crashes and brings down the entire system.
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> adnaps,
[06:00] <adnaps> yup, hardy here to
[06:00] <mojo> Jordan_U::  rock on then :)
[06:00] <anachronoks> Anyone had anything like that happen?
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> k
[06:00] <z0rz> Does mythbuntu-desktop modify grub in anyway?
[06:00] <Mathman> ubuntuROX: beats the heck out of me.  and fedora was disappointing me today as far as that junk goes.  although in fedora's defense that has worked quite well in the past
[06:00] <fde> mojo: webmin was actually dropped from Debian a while ago due to its insecurity...
[06:00] <Xulthus> fde why you don't use webmin?
[06:00] <adnaps> spent hours patching my driver to get it to compile :p
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> adnaps, it works well and you can have any script you want in the controls.. follow their directions
[06:00] <Fezzler> I'm not sure my Nvidia card is running correctly after upgrade to 8.04
[06:00] <adnaps> ok
[06:00] <Jordan_U> mojo, 32 bit or 64 bit?
[06:00] <mojo> fde::  with shorewall refusing external connects, shoudl that be a problem?  i run this as a home server and router.
[06:00] <Mathman> ubuntuROX: but really, it's not that hard to throw firefox, flash, java, and whatever into your home directory
[06:00] <bobbie4> Ubuntu Rules!!!!
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> good ... you know what to do then.. dave yates of lottalinuxlinks recommends it too..
[06:00] <mojo> Jordan_U::  64bit (amd athlon 64 x2 3600+
[06:00] <Hellsadvocate> I love Ubuntu. So far i've fixed every problem i've come across
[06:00] <anachronoks> Anyone else had Firefox crash and bring down the whole system in Hardy? I installed from scratch so it couldn't be just me.
[06:00] <mojo> Jordan_U::  DOH!!!!  My bad, that's the desktop!  The server is i386/32bit
[06:00] <nomasteryoda> Hellsadvocate, sweet
[06:00] <Mathman> ubuntuROX: not that I'd advise going with that over something simple like apt-get install foo.  but still...
[06:00] <roshane> mojo thats my specs
[06:00] <ubuntuROX> yea, I was thinking about trying 64bit again, but last time it was so hit or miss I decided to stick with 32 bit.
[06:00] <Hellsadvocate> Biggest problem: High pitched noise when i try to shut the lid while my macbook pro is on.
[06:00] <fde> mojo: Nothing should be trying to connect, so no... take a look at apt-proxy though if you have multiple machines running Ubuntu.
[06:00] <adnaps> thanks mate, i normally wouldnt have asked but it just wasnt making sense. i though it may have been a hardy issue
[06:00] <oddalot> albert hofmann is dead
[06:01] <Mathman> Hellsadvocate: so yeah, pay no attention to me then.  fair enough
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> is ubotu still sleeping?
[06:01] <IndyGunFreak> !test
[06:01] <Fezzler> Where do I check that I have the right monitor installed?  Using 8,04
[06:01] <Hellsadvocate> Mathman
[06:01] <wolferine> someone willing to give me two mins to mount my SATA HDs?
[06:01] <Hellsadvocate> hahah sorry man
[06:01] <Jordan_U> mojo, OK, do you mind trying something that has a chance of making things worse?
[06:01] <AngryElf> After a clean install of 8.04 GRUB isn't recognizing the hard disk that I installed it to
[06:01] <AngryElf> somethign is saying "Error 21 - device doesn't exist", if I edit the line it's (hd2)
[06:01] <Mathman> Fezzler: say what?  the right monitor?  the right monitor is the one you like to look at.  and the one that preferablly works with the linux distro you happen to be running
[06:01] <patifa> wolferine: Do you know what errors you are getting?
[06:02] <Xulthus> wow
[06:02] <Xulthus> I'm suprised.
[06:02] <mojo> fde::  i have thought about apt-proxy but the server is the only i386 and my desktop is amd64, so wouldn't that be a problem?  I do intend to build a mythbox next (very soon) and was gonna use it for that (it's also i386, will use mythbuntu)
[06:02] <fde> Jordan_U: Go ahead and say it, and I'll be a buffer for whether it'll work or break things  :)
[06:02] <mojo> Jordan_U::  shoot
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, then grub is pointing to the wrong partition ... or drive or both
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> i've seen that before
[06:02] <legend2440> oddalot: sad he was only 102
[06:02] <anachronoks> Is there a webpage with known issues for 8.04?
[06:02] <mojo> Jordan_U::  reconfiguring it will be a PITA but it can be done if I have to
[06:02] <wolferine> patifa, no error, mount -a works fine...
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, how many partitions do you have on that drive?
[06:02] <Fezzler> Math: But under 7.10 I could check that it installed correct monito Acer AL511 and not, let's say, Dell 990
[06:03] <Mathman> Fezzler: spose you're asking how you can know your xorg.conf is right as far as your monitor goes?  is that it?
[06:03] <fde> mojo: Yes, unfortunately...
[06:03] <AngryElf> nomasteryoda: default install/setup on that drive so, 5?
[06:03] <oddalot> yeah, i should live to like 200 if it helps with old age HEH
[06:03] <Fezzler> Math:  Yes.
[06:03] <Jordan_U> mojo, fde first, and this should be completely safe download http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.24-16-server_2.6.24-16.30_i386.deb and run "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/.deb"
[06:03] <mojo> fde::  thought as much.  but kept in mind for as machines get added to the net
[06:04] <Fezzler> Math: I used to be able to check using System>Administration
[06:04] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, so you would have windows, linux root, home, swap and something extra
[06:04] <DATmafia> i fixed the screen resolution issues
[06:04] <fde> Jordan_U: Why would that break things? You're just doing what apt does automatically  :)
[06:04] <DATmafia> in virtual box
[06:04] <AnthroTechie> I'm having trouble getting my desktop effects to work, I already installed Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[06:04] <david__--> im new to linux,can someone guide me through the installation process of ddreamweaver please
[06:04] <Mathman> Fezzler: yeah, well.  X config files are one of those black arts.  meaning once you get that junk working, back up your xorg.conf when you go and reinstall.  if you didn't do that, well...
[06:04] <N1N31NCHN41L6> it WILL NOT let me delete /grub
[06:04] <Mathman> Fezzler: I guess try running an "X -configure" as root.  if that even works anymore...
[06:04] <AngryElf> nomasteryoda: fresh clean install of just 8.04, no windows i dont know how many partitions that is
[06:04] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, you can edit the grub before it starts all the way.. .hit "Esc"
[06:04] <wolferine> patifa,  /dev/sdb5       /media/500      auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8        0       0
[06:04] <nomasteryoda> ok
[06:04] <Jordan_U> fde, That's why I said "First, and this should be perfectly safe..." :)
[06:04] <anachronoks> Wow, 45,000 bugs for Ubuntu on Launchpad
[06:04] <adnaps> nomasteryoda : wicd deb package installed and no need for configuration ... got everything first go :) thanks champ
[06:05] <nomasteryoda> adnaps, enjoy mate
[06:05] <ChatterboX> hello all
[06:05] <mojo> Jordan_U::  if i'm in an ssh session, isnt' ther a way to xfer a file thru it?
[06:05] <AnthroTechie> hey
[06:05] <Fezzler> Math: I don't follow.  Everything after upgrade seems ok except Visual Effects and my beloved rotating desk cub
[06:05] <fde> Jordan_U: I think the issue is with his apt though... I do not know why it can't find the package itself... and it likely isn't just for this package...
[06:05] <phillipsjk> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org is the new way to configure X
[06:05] <Mathman> Fezzler: that and try and look up the specs on your monitor.  the xorg.conf file isn't actually as nutty as I'm making it out to be.  if you can find the refresh rates for the thing and plug those in to your xorg.conf file, then you're basically set as far as the monitor goes.
[06:05] <mojo> Jordan_U::  if not i can wget it direct to that box
[06:05] <N1N31NCHN41L6> phillipsjk: it works great to
[06:05] <anachronoks> Speaking of that, does anyone remember the Compiz effect that was essentially like Expose on the Mac?
[06:06] <z0rz> I just did an apt-get upgrade and now my machine won't boot.  It stalls at the Ubuntu loading screen for a while and then instead of going into gdm it says BusyBox v1.1.3 and then (initramfs) _
[06:06] <anachronoks> I wonder why that's not installed by default.
[06:06] <AngryElf> nomasteryoda: should it really be "hd2" for a scsi drive -- i tried changing it to sd2 but then i got an error parsing the line
[06:06] <Fezzler> Math: Where is xorg.conf located?
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, hit the "e" key to edit a line in Grub menu.... say edit the root=(hd0,0) and
[06:06] <DATmafia> AnthroTechie did u go to system-preferences-appearance preferances- Visual effect tab
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> ah
[06:06] <Mathman> Fezzler: but heck, these days you're probably better off leaving that refresh stuff absent and letting X autoconfigure everything anyway.
[06:06] <Fezzler> MAth: etc?
[06:06] <fde> Jordan_U: His sources.list is pointed at hardy ... and he has aptitude update'd ... so there is no reason
[06:06] <z0rz> I think it has something to do with all-generic-ide flag not being in grub.. but I can't get it to boot with that either...
[06:06] <Jordan_U> mojo, You don't need to, you already have the .deb on the machine, I was just being lazy in not wanting to remember where they are stored :)
[06:06] <patifa> david__--: In macromedia's zeal to prevent unlicensed use of their software, they've put in enough digital restrictions management to make it nearly impossible to legitimately run Dreamweaver in Linux
[06:06] <DATmafia> and select what type of effects u want o have enabled
[06:06] <Hellsadvocate> fezzeler: go to terminal, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, should be hd1 for second drive
[06:06] <Fezzler> Math: I'm cool with that.
[06:06] <anachronoks> I run Flash in Linux, it's not hard
[06:06] <z0rz> Anyone?
[06:06] <Mathman> Fezzler: /etc/X11/xorg.conf typically.  but then I'm not a debian guy, so perhaps not
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, as first drive would be hd0
[06:06] <Hellsadvocate> Math's right.
[06:06] <nomasteryoda> z0rz, someone will help you...
[06:07] <patifa> z0rs do you know how to modify GRUB's bootup?
[06:07] <DrifterSX> mneptok
[06:07] <AngryElf> nomasteryoda: booting, thanx
[06:07] <DrifterSX> u in here?
[06:07] <david__--> patifa:ok,so even if i have it already from my desktop its no use?
[06:07] <CloudFX> patifa: ill take u though it
[06:07] <david__--> just delete?
[06:07] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, and you can then permanently edit it from inside ubuntu
[06:07] <patifa> CloudFX: talk to david__--
[06:07] <z0rz> patifa: Yeah but I think I maybe be adding all-generic-ide to the wrong line
[06:07] <Mathman> Fezzler: and well, I couldn't tell you what X config app debian goes with either, but it sounds like that junk isn't working out anyhow, so there you go.
[06:07] <z0rz> Do I add it to root (hd0,0) or the kernel line?
[06:07] <patifa> not the root line
[06:07] <patifa> add it to the one with the long UUID string
[06:08] <z0rz> didn't htink so
[06:08] <patifa> which should be #2
[06:08] <z0rz> I'm booting in recovery mode now
[06:08] <z0rz> I'll see where it get's hun
[06:08] <x1250> someone has managed to make sound work on a Packard Bell EasyNote?
[06:08] <Jordan_U> fde, It doesn't seem to be a problem with not being able to find a package but rather a file that should be provided in the kernel package is not found causing the configure script to fail, I was going to suggest trying to dpkg-deb -x the package then try configuring again
[06:08] <anachronoks> The biggest problem I'm having with Hardy is the instability. System goes down completely and you can't do anything.
[06:08] <z0rz> hung*
[06:08] <Mathman> z0rz: the root directive, and I'm assuming grub here, that just tells grub where the grub config junk and whatnot is stored.
[06:08] <patifa> but, z0rs try removing splash and quiet
[06:08] <AngryElf> nomasteryoda: that doesn't permanently edit it?
[06:08] <nomasteryoda> anachronoks, err... ok.. never had such here...
[06:08] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, nope...
[06:08] <patifa> I think the recovery had a 'quiet' in it, I can't rememeber
[06:09] <Mathman> x1250: ha, packard bell?  what are you running?  a 486?
[06:09] <z0rz> It looks like it's getting stuck at "Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[06:09] <z0rz> "
[06:09] <anachronoks> nomasteryoda: I did a fresh install from the CD and haven't added any apps except for xchat..
[06:09] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, just  open a terminal... and "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" ... and ad that change
[06:09] <AngryElf> thanx
[06:09] <patifa> Is your CDROM using SATA?
[06:09] <z0rz> Right after it said dev hda: unable to read RDB block 0 unable to read partition table
[06:09] <nomasteryoda> anachronoks, did you have any such issue with the live cd>
[06:09] <bjron> hmm, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' doesn't give me options to specify resolutions.  Is there a new way that X gets the screen resolution?
[06:09] <nomasteryoda> ?
[06:09] <z0rz> patifa: no
[06:10] <patifa> Are you using SATA at all, z0rz?
[06:10] <AnthroTechie> DATmafia- yes I did
[06:10] <rgravener> my live stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sleep-time
[06:10] <voidmage> I have wine set up in a virtual desktop to run games. When I run a full screen game, the "wine system tray" floats over the full screen window
[06:10] <Mathman> rgravener: thanks!!!
[06:10] <z0rz> Everything was working fine until I did an apt-get update and tried to install mythbuntu-desktop
[06:10] <Fezzler> What are all the other xorg.conf files I see?
[06:10] <arooni__> i'm back;  i'm connected to the interwebs on my laptop through wpa personal.... but my poor gutsy desktop can't connect >>>  it prompted me for the password but then it just spinns around adoes nothing :(
[06:10] <arooni__> ideas?
[06:10] <z0rz> patifa: Yeah I have 1 pata and 2 sata hard drives
[06:10] <x1250> someone has managed to make sound work on a Packard Bell EasyNote?
[06:10] <anachronoks> nomasteryoda: No, it doesn't happen that often, maybe once a day. But it always seems to be when Firefox is open so I think that might have something to do with it
[06:10] <patifa> ahh
[06:10] <mojo> Jordan_U::  well i have the package on the server now, so should i proceed with installing it?
[06:10] <Fezzler> xorg.conf.1  .2 .3 etc.
[06:11] <patifa> z0rz what motherboard are you running therE?
[06:11] <patifa> *there
[06:11] <Mathman> z0rz: ha, yikes.  and you're saying you can't boot after that?  the mythubuntu junk would have nothing to do with that at any rate
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> anachronoks, i would recommend finding the firefox 2.0.0.x and installing it... if you want stable... firefox 3 b5 has issues ... on ubuntu for sure...
[06:11] <Jordan_U> mojo, Yes, and if it fails ( it most likely will ) try
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> i've seen that too
[06:11] <nomasteryoda> not an Ubunut issue
[06:11] <anachronoks> nomasteryoda: okay, will try that, thanks
[06:12] <nomasteryoda> but should not have shipped that way ... imho
[06:12] <z0rz> patifa: It's an Asus A8N-VM CSM
[06:12] <patifa> oh yeah
[06:12] <patifa> that's mine
[06:12] <patifa> err, close
[06:12] <z0rz> nice
[06:12] <Mathman> nomasteryoda: ubuntu follows debian unstable, no?  everything ships that way
[06:12] <Don_Miguel> Flannel: took me a bit to double-check, and after doing "sudo fdisk -l", it looks like two[2] of my USB  sticks are listed as  sdd/sdd1 & sde/sde1 but there is NO listing as for SDB at 160 GB !!
[06:12] <Fezzler> is there a command line way to tell ubuntu to recheck and reinstall my graphics card and monitor ?
[06:12] <nomasteryoda> Mathman, not exactly.. but very close
[06:13] <z0rz> I think it's because grub is calling my pata drive by a UUID and something changed the uuid
[06:13] <AngieBTSea> having some problems making my sounds go where I want them to, does anyone know about Ubuntu sound stuff?
[06:13] <patifa> z0rz add pci=nomsi for now to the startup, and join the club at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/190492
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> Mathman, just reporting my findings...
[06:13] <patifa> I'm collecting the steady stream of this bug, there.
[06:13] <Mathman> Fezzler: sorta.  like I said, a "X -configure" has been doing wonders for me lately
[06:13] <timandtom> On the off chance that I go completely insane and/or suffer brain damage, is there a way to get IE to work in 7.10?
[06:13] <Fezzler> I think a generic Nvida driver is installed and not using full features of my card
[06:13] <mojo> Jordan_U::  interesting results.  Look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/8834/
[06:14] <Mathman> nomasteryoda: least we get, what?  3 years of updates this time around
[06:14] <patifa> z0rs: you can also try irqpoll, it seemed to boot on that for me but I had some stability issues, so I went back to pci=nomsi
[06:14] <Deepthought> Fezzler: to get full features on nvidia you have to install restricted driver
[06:14] <Mathman> Fezzler: ha, well get X working first, then worry about the 3d junk
[06:14] <AngryElf> okay, I upgraded to 8.04 and my box got all hosey, slow, crappy, so I did a fresh install and it's still the same way - what's the deal?  All I can really say is that it's choppy and slow on the command line
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> Mathman, yup... 3 and 5 on server... Ubuntu is the best new user Linux around... and i've been using since warty
[06:15] <Fezzler> Deep: there is an NVIDIA restricted drive installed.  I'm not sure it is configured right
[06:15] <z0rz> patifa: I don't think that's my problem
[06:15] <timandtom> AngryElf: 8.04 has bird flu.
[06:15] <AngryElf> ?
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> AngryElf, some bug i've seen... heron flu
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> lol
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> joke
[06:15] <Mathman> nomasteryoda: eh, an old school guy might tell you mandriva.  but ok.
[06:15] <Jordan_U> mojo, What is the situation exactly? Is there something strange about how this is installed?
[06:15] <z0rz> Is there a way to rebuild the grub.conf without a boot cd?
[06:15] <Deepthought> Fezzler: Why do you think it' s not right ?
[06:15] <AngryElf> different kernel maybe?
[06:15] <Jordan_U> mojo, Actually, I need to leave for about 15 minutes, will you still be here?
[06:16] <patifa> why rebuild it, z0rz?
[06:16] <cesar_bo> Hi; i just upgrade to hardy, and has no sound on Flash (youtube specifically), anyone has the same issue?
[06:16] <nomasteryoda> Mathman, debian unstable.. or sidux is good... but i don't like the iceweasel so i go with ubuntu ... looking at yoper... looks very good too
[06:16] <patifa> just boot and modify the magic lines, when you update it again it'll add the pci=nomsi everywhere
[06:16] <timandtom> AngryElf: Might be, I don't know. But both me and my friend have issues with it, so I went back to 7.10.
[06:16] <z0rz> because it says my hard drives UUID doesn't exist
[06:16] <patifa> oh
[06:16] <anachronoks> cesar_bo: same problem here
[06:16] <Mathman> cesar_bo: you have sound in general though?
[06:16] <mojo> Jordan_U::  if not i will be back shortly.  I'll post some stats for you on config.
[06:16] <patifa> I dunno how to regenerate them :S
[06:16] <timandtom> On the off chance that I go completely insane and/or suffer brain damage, is there a way to get IE to work in 7.10?
[06:16] <AngryElf> timandtom: similar issues i just described?
[06:16] <cesar_bo> Mathman: yes, on everything less youtube
[06:16] <nomasteryoda> timandtom, sure... called ies4linux
[06:16] <Fezzler> Deep: It shows up in Sysinfo but doesn't show Ram installed and Display Settings button does nothing
[06:16] <Mathman> nomasteryoda: all depends on what you're after.  I thought we were talking newbie distros though
[06:17] <z0rz> patifa: Yeah it takes a bit with a boot cd... I've done it several times about a year ago.. I was hoping to just boot without a cd
[06:17] <Jordan_U> mojo, bye
[06:17] <nomasteryoda> Mathman, oh, yeah... slipped into geekmode
[06:17] <patifa> z0rz I ended up changing fstab to directly refer to my hard drives, in their order. (it'll break probably if I add another HD, but it boots)
[06:17] <amrik> Hi, so in Firefox 3b5 64-bit using flashplugin-nonfree sometimes flash embedded stuff shows up completely grey and does not work whereas sometimes it works. Is there a workaround?
[06:17] <AngieBTSea> Mathman, are you a sound expert?
[06:17] <timandtom> AngryElf: Wireless randomly stopped working(Until RIGHT before I went to format), and was overall just way worse performance. Plus I didn't like the default background as much :)
[06:17] <timandtom> nomasteryoda: Awesome, thanks!
[06:17] <Mathman> cesar_bo: beats me then.  sound is crap on linux.  all I know.  but at any rate, least we've established that sound isn't screwed on the most basic level.
[06:17] <Fezzler> Deep: After upgrading to 8.04 my Visual Effects and Cube desktop stuff doesn't work
[06:18] <Mathman> AngieBTSea: not I
[06:18] <z0rz> patifa: That also may be what happend..  I added a new hard drive a few reboots ago... but it's been booting fine (until I did the upgrade)
[06:18] <Deepthought> Fezzler: (don't forget to press tab after typing deep or dee to complete my nickname, else I don' t get a ring and hughlight and might miss your answer)
[06:18] <patifa> yeah, z0rs, I'm not sure what breaks it there.
[06:18] <legend2440> timandtom: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[06:18] <Fezzler> Deepthought: ok
[06:18] <cesar_bo> Mathman: ... could be the pulseaudio ?
[06:18] <paijo13> hi all. is there any hardy iso that contain only the base system?
[06:18] <AngieBTSea> Okay Mathman, I will keep fishing :) sound is being disagreeable
[06:18] <Fezzler> Deepthought: Learn something new!
[06:19] <nomasteryoda> cesar_bo, i've seen before with flash and firefox... there is a fix
[06:19] <timandtom> legend2440: Thanks!
[06:19] <Mathman> cesar_bo: I dunno.  seems like f8 had pulse audio.  flash worked on there for me.
[06:19] <Judeglass> is there a common reason why when editing in vi my arrow keys insert characters instead of moving the cursor?
[06:19] <Deepthought> Fezzler: to get desktop things again install 'advanced desktop settings' (synaptic), and switch' mo on in there
[06:19] <Fezzler> Deepthought: I did.
[06:19] <timandtom> Fezzler: :D Ubuntu has cube desktop stuffs? Whats it called? My brother saw a screenshot of vista doing it the other day, wants to try it.
[06:19] <anachronoks> the problem that i have is totem and firefox don't seem to want to share audio. it works in both separately, but not at the same time
[06:20] <Mathman> AngieBTSea: while I'm not expert, you'd at least stand a better chance if you explained a bit further than just "sound is being disagreeable"
[06:20] <yuiyui> how can i set different resolution for my dual monitors? im using ATI card and installed the ATI Catalyst  Control center
[06:20] <anachronoks> i wonder if it's because of pulseaudio
[06:20] <AngieBTSea> Mathman, sound will come out USB for some applications
[06:20] <cappicard> hrmm... timidity's being a pain: "ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:874:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave"
[06:20] <AngieBTSea> USB headphones
[06:20] <Mathman> timandtom: and...no.  it's called compiz fusion these days.  and no, vista doesn't do it.
[06:20] <nomasteryoda> anachronoks, you should be able to make totem "use" oss or alsa
[06:20] <Deepthought> Fezzler: the display settings don' t work with restricted, that's normal, use nvidia-settings, must be in settings menu (or the other sys menu, not sure) or in the terminal 'sudo nvidia-settings
[06:20] <AngieBTSea> but for other applications, it comes out the computer's built in speakers
[06:20] <Fezzler> Deepthought: Seem like after I turn on Visual Effects "Extras" and then set Desktop Cube and Rotate and close, it knocks Visual Effects to off
[06:20] <nomasteryoda> which share sound well enough for me
[06:20] <Deepthought> Fezzler: if it' s not there, install it too
[06:20] <yuiyui> but i can't set different resolution.
[06:21] <Mathman> AngieBTSea: ha, yeah, but hey, I gave it a shot.
[06:21] <AngieBTSea> and on 7.10 it was more agreeable
[06:21] <sessh1234> k, one more quick question
[06:21] <anachronoks> nomasteryoda: okay, i'll try it, thanks x 2 :)
[06:21] <sitanxin> hi,it`s my first to be here
[06:21] <timandtom> Mathman: Well maybe not by default... But I've seen plenty of screenshots of Vista with a cube of desktops(Thats what we're talking about, right? Or did I get it confused with something else?)
[06:21] <NemesisD> my panel has disappeared, how do i create a new one?
[06:21] <GhotiPhud> sitanxin: welcome
[06:21] <Shadow_X> how do I change the resolution used when Ubuntu shows its splash screen during bootup?
[06:21] <fde> Fezzler: By "Advanced Desktop Settings" I think he means either gnome-compiz-manager or gconf-editor  :)
[06:21] <sessh1234> if i install a package and it installs dependancies, then i uninstall the package, how can i remove the dependancies that were installed?
[06:21] <corinth> Welcome, sistanxin. :)
[06:21] <Fezzler> Deepthought: But some of the Advanced Desktop features work.  Just not Cube stuff
[06:21] <timandtom> Mathman: Or maybe someone made they're XP look like Vista, i dunno :(
[06:21] <Mathman> timandtom: I'd guess the latter.  but who knows.  I used to run kde on windows at one poit
[06:21] <mike> Hello, I had a question
[06:22] <Mathman> point rather
[06:22] <fde> Fezzler: Or ccsm - it has a less neat GUI though...
[06:22] <sessh1234> kinda like gentoo's emerge --depclean
[06:22] <corinth> * sitanxin
[06:22] <NemesisD> nm found it
[06:22] <wolferine> have a question or two, about setting up an ftpd, when setting up, do you 'have' to create a new user, and you limit that user, or can you do it, without making the user.. ?
[06:22] <CloudFX> NemesisD: if only one of the 2 default ones were closed you should be able to right click the remaining one and choose "new panel"
[06:22] <sitanxin> why not talk?
[06:22] <timandtom> Mathman: Ah, cool, well, thanks :D I'll be sure to tell my bro.
[06:22] <Mathman> timandtom: well, that and I can only guess here what you mean by "cube of desktops".  but that certainly sounds like compiz fusion.
[06:22] <rgravener> no one wants to watch me live and chat?
[06:22] <Fezzler> Deepthought: So do what?
[06:22] <timandtom> Mathman: Like, a cube, with a desktop on each face
[06:22] <milly1234> why two panels? it takes up more room, never understood that
[06:23] <cesar_bo> this is a pain !!! why I can get the sound on youtube ... :(
[06:23] <jm1> a
[06:23] <o0Chris0o> rgravener: only if your female
[06:23] <fde> Off topic things of a social nature go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:23] <cesar_bo> sorry, "I can not get"
[06:23] <Deepthought> Fezzler: I wouldn't know then, but it doesn' t sound like stuff is wrong, just play around with settings and read the helps; not everything always works
[06:23] <Fezzler> Deepthought: Bouncy widows and other frivalities work
[06:23] <Mathman> timandtom: wikipedia my friend.  and youtube or some nonsense.  type in compiz fusion or something and you'll probably find what you're after.
[06:23] <mike> If anyone could help me out I appreciate it; I am trying to get my wireless card to detect networks.  It sais it is disabled when I find the hardware under lshd in terminal.
[06:23] <anachronoks> cesar_bo: try installing a different browser and see if it makes a difference
[06:23] <NemesisD> jesus, hardy really seems to do a number on my systems
[06:23] <Deepthought> Fezzler: then the driver etc is really ok
[06:23] <anachronoks> i just installed epiphany to try it
[06:23] <Deepthought> Fezzler: did you find the nvidia settings?
[06:23] <Fezzler> Deepthought: HMMM  But no Cube?
[06:23] <NemesisD> did hardy get rid of the restricted drvers manager or something? i can't find it
[06:24] <Mathman> ha.  this channel is madness.  kinda like gentoo back in the day
[06:24] <Fezzler> Deepthought: No.  WHere?
[06:24] <kindofabuzz> where can i talk to ubuntu developers?
[06:24] <AngieBTSea> My sound will not go where I want it to.  Right now it comes through the headphones for some applications but for others it will only come out the built in speakers
[06:24] <sessh1234> Mathman: do you know of an ubuntu equivalent for emerge --depclean?
[06:24] <fde> NemesisD: No, renamed it... it's now System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[06:24] <AngieBTSea> And I was wondering if someone had any ideas why?
[06:24] <NemesisD> ah just found it
[06:24] <fde> NemesisD: It is always 'jockey-gtk' though  ;)
[06:24] <DATmafia> ubuntu is the perfect newbie distro
[06:25] <Fezzler> Deepthought: System>Admin>Hardware Settings says Nvida is in use
[06:25] <DATmafia> some learning curves but a gui install on 8.04 is nice and clean with a lot of management features enabled :-)
[06:25] <fde> DATmafia: Ubuntu is the perfect distro... its underpinnings are Debian... they just made the defaults more refined, and added tools to make it easier for new users.
[06:25] <Mathman> sessh1234: not off  the top of my head.  but if I recall there's certainly something like that.  apt-slog --euthanize--orphans or something.  ha, nah, but orphans sounds about right anyway
[06:25] <kindofabuzz> sudo deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get -y remove --purge && sudo apt-get autoclean  is a good cleaner, but you have to have deporphan installed
[06:25] <Deepthought> Fezzler: like I said, it's ok; settings in system or settings menu
[06:26] <kindofabuzz> deborphan#
[06:26] <fde> kindofabuzz: aptitude replaced deborphan in every way deborphan was useful  :)
[06:26] <Fezzler> Deepthought: You lost me
[06:26] <Deepthought> Fezzler: if it' s not there, install with synaptic
[06:26] <Mathman> AngieBTSea: I'd go with some forums and mailing lists at this point.  get some sleep and all...
[06:27] <kindofabuzz> fde oh ok
[06:27] <Fezzler> Deepthought: If what is not there?
[06:27] <Fezzler> Deep
[06:27] <kindofabuzz> http://strabes.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/clean-up-unnecessary-packages-on-ubuntu-dapper/
[06:27] <Deepthought> Fezzler: if nvidia-settings is not in menu
[06:27] <AngieBTSea> I might not be able to let it go Mathman
[06:27] <Mathman> DATmafia: seriously.  ubuntu has a gui install these days?
[06:27] <AngryElf> so there's no solution to this slowish command line?
[06:27] <fde> kindofabuzz: If fact, exactly what that long command accomplishes is handled by default in aptitude... just aptitude upgrade , if something isn't in use, it'll remove it for you  :)
[06:27] <Mathman> AngieBTSea: ha, fair enough
[06:27] <AngieBTSea> I will continue consulting google
[06:27] <AngieBTSea> :)
[06:27] <AngieBTSea> thanks for trying
[06:28] <Fezzler> Deepthought: I have Nvida, I have Visual Effects Extra, I have Advanced Desktop Settings.  Just that Desktop Cube and Rotate Cube don't work after upgrade
[06:28] <kindofabuzz> fde: so basically use aptitude instead of apt-get?
[06:28] <N1N31NCHN41L6> aptitude is easier
[06:28] <patifa> aptitude clean?
[06:28] <Mathman> kindofabuzz: use synaptic I say
[06:28] <z0rz> How can I list all disk from the live cd?
[06:28] <fde> kindofabuzz: yes, with one coveat... to search descriptions (default apt-cache search) you must use ~dfoo ~dbar ...
[06:28] <NemesisD> fde, do you know if hardy wold make abackup of xorg.conf before changing it? i used to have dual monitors set up to span and now theyre mirroring eachother
[06:28] <Mathman> isn't that the gui junk?
[06:29] <crdlb> Fezzler: what doesn't work about them?
[06:29] <z0rz> come on..
[06:29] <z0rz> lsdisk?
[06:29] <Deepthought> Fezzler: I meant nvidia-settings, to set resolution and stuff; cause you mentioned earlier that didn' t work with the display settings, wich is normal with restr. dr.
[06:29] <N1N31NCHN41L6> Fezzler:  - get the NEW Envy For Hardy or the leacy for Gutsy - should fix ur cube
[06:29] <kindofabuzz> so sudo deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get -y remove --purge && sudo apt-get autoclean is moot now?
[06:29] <fde> NemesisD: It should... hit /etc/X11/xorg.conf[tab key]
[06:29] <Mathman> z0rz: what?  like rescue mode?  dmesg would do the trick
[06:29] <Don_Miguel> wb Flannel
[06:29] <Don_Miguel> Flannel: took me a bit to double-check, and after doing "sudo fdisk -l", it looks like two[2] of my USB  sticks are listed as  sdd/sdd1 & sde/sde1 but there is NO listing as for SDB at 160 GB !!
[06:29] <patifa> NemesisD: there may be older versions of them there, check it out
[06:29] <crdlb> N1N31NCHN41L6: that makes no sense whatsoever
[06:29] <NemesisD> yeesh now its forcing me to start in low graphics mode
[06:30] <x1250> someone has managed to make sound work on a Packard Bell EasyNote (celeron with AC97 sound) ?
[06:30] <kindofabuzz> why do people use envy when all they have to do is check a box to enable there graphic drivers?
[06:30] <Mathman> NemesisD: back it up by hand, by all means.  go with nvidia-settings or whatever.  least that's the easy way to do it.  shame I didn't learn that command up until recently.  used to take me days to get my dual monitor junk set up
[06:30] <z0rz> Hmm I think my disk partition tables are corrupt... is there any way to recover them?
[06:30] <fde> kindofabuzz: actually, not really apt-get... but aptitude handles search/debfoster/deborphan/install/purge etc much easier.
[06:30] <Fezzler> crdlb: After I turn on Visual Effect Extra, theb go into Advanced Desktop and turn on Desktop cub and roate, close, it seems to knock Extra off