[05:05] <bullgard4> man aplay: "OPTIONS: -L, --list-devices: list all PCMs defined." What are 'PCMs'?
[05:05] <sinistrad> Saik, DirectX won't really work under wine all that well, but I don't think you're having to worry about 3d graphics, so I'm not sure. WoW needs 3D, so I had to use openGL.
[05:05] <Wisnia> how to stop and start services , any gui configuration tool?
[05:05] <sinistrad> Saik, That may not be of much help to you though.
[05:05] <Saik> sinistrad, D3d HAL wat what D2 said
[05:05] <JayWalker_> Having a problem with browsing the internet atm. I know I'm connected, because IRC and xkype still work. However, chromium and firefox won't navigate to any page. Getting error 105 "name not resolved"
[05:06] <hiexpo> Wisnia, what you want to start and stop ?
[05:06] <Saik> sinistrad, so it actaully DOES work, it's just being a pain to install :@
[05:06] <Wisnia> services
[05:06] <hiexpo> Wisnia, what services ?
[05:06] <OctoByte> Wisnia: What service? Any in particular?
[05:06] <Wisnia> system services
[05:07] <OctoByte> Wisnia: Are you thinking processes maybe?
[05:07] <hiexpo> Wisnia, for us to help you   > you need to be more specific
[05:07] <sinistrad> Saik, Then you're doing something I've never done before.
[05:07] <Wisnia> for example sendmail
[05:07] <Wisnia> or ssh
[05:08] <Saik> sinistrad, Windows-like installing lol
[05:08] <IdleOne> bullgard4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-code_modulation
[05:09] <sinistrad> Saik, =)
[05:09] <qin> Wisnia: sudo sevice ssh stop/start, gui? not sure.
[05:09] <Saik> sinistrad, it don't like me lol
[05:09] <JayWalker_> anyone?
[05:09] <Saik> JayWalker_, repeat plz?
[05:10] <SuperMiguel> speed wise is there a difference between installing ubuntu using wubi and installing ubuntu on a partition?
[05:10] <OctoByte> JayWalker_: repeat?
[05:10] <JayWalker_> Having a problem with browsing the internet atm. I know I'm connected, because IRC and xkype still work. However, chromium and firefox won't navigate to any page. Getting error 105 "name not resolved"
[05:10] <JayWalker_> Same error on my laptop
[05:10] <JayWalker_> so... something in my router maybe?
[05:10] <sinistrad> JayWalker_, You're having a DNS issue somewhere it seems, maybe from your router or ISP perhaps?
[05:10] <OctoByte> JayWalker_: Dsounds like a DNS
[05:11] <JayWalker_> will try restarting router in a minute
[05:11] <hiexpo> dns or a firewall
[05:11] <uglyoldbob> i am getting the remote end hung up unexpectedly when trying to use public git cloning on my git server
[05:12] <Servandus> Hello, I have a problem. I started to install Ubuntu on to my machine a few hours ago, and chose "Specify partitions manually" since I intend to keep Windows for gaming purposes, not to mention the vast amount of data that I have stored. However, I went back a step after proceeding in order to check something, and when I again proceeded my choice had been automatically reverted to "Erase and use the entire disk". I realized what happe
[05:12] <elTigre> no idea?
[05:12] <bullgard4> IdleOne: I know well what pulse-code modulation is. in 'man aplay' the acronym 'PCM' is not used for 'pulse-code modulation' but for something else. One cannot enumerate pulse-code modulations.
[05:12] <Servandus> Windows, but only 100 MB seem to have been explicitly reformatted.
[05:13] <Servandus> However, about 400 GB were changed to "unallocated", but they must still hold all of my data. How can I access this data?
[05:14] <Servandus> If anyone wishes, I can repeat all three parts of my query so that they will appear in sequence.
[05:14] <qin> Servandus: Easy shot is to use testdisk and rebuild partition table.
[05:14] <lapaga> SuperMiguel, contrary to what most will tell you...wubi will work...i am using it right now with only 256M ram (everyone will tell you that lubuntu or puppy are the only options but that is not actually correct.  i am not saying that things will not work better with a real install but am saying that it will work to see how things go just fine
[05:15] <Servandus> qin: I will look into this and see if I can figure it out - thank you
[05:15] <bernard___> hello, I need to restore mysql database from OS image. What I did: created new database, stopped mysql, copied failes from my backup into /var/lib/mysql/{db_backup}, started mysql, now if a run show tables; it shows me all tables, but if I want to select from table it writes that:table doesn't exists. Please any ideas ?
[05:15] <Raptors> How do you configure with cflags?
[05:15] <Raptors> CFLAGS="..." ./configure?
[05:15] <SuperMiguel> lapaga, speed wise? like HD read and write? they are the same???
[05:16] <rinkukokiri> allright  having a problem with nvidia-current being enabled, not in use
[05:16] <rinkukokiri> http://askubuntu.com/questions/47378/nvidia-current-drivers-enabled-not-in-use-help
[05:16] <sourav> Hi, I tried dual boot (Win7 and Kubuntu), the Grub crashed. Now when I switch on my laptop, I don't see any boot option. I tried a few forum/tuturial, but I have one doubt. The commands I tried are at http://paste.kde.org/79477/. I am not able to execute just one command 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda'. It appears, if I can execute this last command, I can fix my boot load.
[05:16] <Roasted> Is it normal for a software raid array controlled by mdadm to resync itself every so often?
[05:17] <lapaga> SuperMiguel, i am guessing not..but you have to realize that I do not know what a current system is capable of...this is the same system that i use with winxp and it seems to be working just as well
[05:17] <Servandus> qin: I am a newbie to anything Linux - is "testdisk" a command or a utility?
[05:17] <bullgard4> Servandus: It is a special CD.
[05:18] <hiexpo> !testdisk
[05:18] <Servandus> bullgard4: Thank you, I'll see if I can find an image.
[05:18] <qin> Servandus: command line utility, there is more options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[05:18] <lapaga> one has to understand that some or most of the people here (as in most current discussions) do not know what it is like to have lived in the past :)
[05:18] <Servandus> qin: Thanks, reading the page now
[05:19] <hiexpo> Servandus, testdisk is a forensic app for recoverying data
[05:20] <qin> Servandus: And testdisk own wiki: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[05:21] <BryanLee1981> is there a good solution for flash playback? I get a lot of blocks and general poor performance. I'm using 11.04 and an ATI Radeon 4200
[05:21] <Servandus> qin: Thank you very much for your quick and helpful responses. Here's hoping for the best!
[05:22] <qin> Servandus: Anytime.
[05:26] <lapaga> SuperMiguel, just to make myself clear...I would not be using wubi if I was able to use a regular install.  wubi opens you up to several opportunities for problems.  i would if i were able to (failing hard drive ) but...it will allow you to experience ubuntu to the fullest (with a potential of problems).  sorry if my typing lags the discussion.
[05:26] <DerFed> raid repair software?
[05:27] <ptley> If your hard drive has bad sectors wubi will be worse than reg install
[05:27] <cannonfodder> ANYONE here regularly visit godlikeproductions?
[05:29] <lapaga> more than one way for an hd to fail...spin up time
[05:29] <cannonfodder> anyone here visit the website www.godlikeproductions.com?
[05:29] <rww> cannonfodder: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support, not offtopic chatter.
[05:29] <rinkukokiri> i'm having issues with nvidia-current being enabled, not in use.. also I *CAN* run glgears
[05:30] <sourav> Hi, I tried dual boot (Win7 and Kubuntu), the Grub crashed. Now when I switch on my laptop, I don't see any boot option. I tried a few forum/tuturial, but I have one doubt. The commands I tried are at http://paste.kde.org/79477/. I am not able to execute just one command 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda'. It appears, if I can execute this last command, I can fix my boot load. Please help.
[05:30] <sudouser> hello?
[05:31] <rinkukokiri> !nvidia
[05:33] <uglyoldbob> how can i verify if git daemon is configured properly?
[05:36] <bullgard4> man aplay: "OPTIONS: -L, --list-devices: list all PCMs defined." What are 'PCMs'?
[05:36] <rinkukokiri> seriously, do i have to download and install the drivers from nvidia to get them working or what?
[05:36] <lapaga> pulse code modulation?
[05:36] <rinkukokiri> I'm about to file the entire release of 11.04 as one giant bug and just rollback to 10.10
[05:37] <bullgard4> lapaga: No.
[05:38] <bullgard4> !git | uglyoldbob
[05:38] <IdleOne> bullgard4: that is what PCM is. PCM devices refers to devices that do pulse code modulation
[05:40] <bullgard4> IdleOne: But in 'man aplay' it is not called »PCM devices«. Rather, it is called "PCMs". But this is probably meant.
[05:41] <raze> Okey, I got to mount my partition encrypted with ecryptfs, I got the encryption key already
[05:41] <raze> What command do I use and one what file_
[05:41] <IdleOne> bullgard4: correct, the description is poorly written but that is what PCMs is referring to
[05:41] <raze> ?
[05:41] <bullgard4> IdleOne: Thank you very much for your help.
[05:42] <IdleOne> welcome
[05:46] <phreck> the failure was epic.
[05:46] <phreck> qin, i dont know how to get wifi running from the term. i lose. lol
[05:46] <uglyoldbob> ok my git-daemon appears to be looking at /var/cache instead of /home/git/repositories
[05:48] <Saik> sinistrad, going oldscool. copying the file from my brother's PC to this one :P
[05:50] <rinkukokiri> WHY can't i get my nvidia drivers to be in use
[05:50] <rinkukokiri> they are stuck at 'enabled, not in use'
[05:50] <rinkukokiri> NEVER HAD THIS ISSUE WITH 10.XX AND PRIOR
[05:51] <phreck> cry moar.
[05:51] <rinkukokiri> so, they come out with a new release.      everything breaks, and they call it a success.
[05:52] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, check your Xorg logs or "lspci -vnvn" find the VGA section and 'kernel driver in use' -- i think it's a reporting bug of the driver tool, the driver is probably in use actually.
[05:52] <rage> The `free` command shows used -/+ buffers/cache. From memory the bot in here has a really nice explanation of what that all means. Could someone provide me with the link?
[05:52] <rage> or invoke the bot to provide me with the link? :-)
[05:52] <lapaga> seems that the but is showing not in use but is actually
[05:53] <rinkukokiri> !memory
[05:53] <rage> rinkukokiri: Thanks, thats exactly the article I was looking for
[05:56] <rinkukokiri> ZykoticK9, lapaga   here's all my relevant info i knew to post ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/47378/nvidia-current-drivers-enabled-not-in-use-help
[05:56] <rinkukokiri> those infobytes tell me kernel driver is nvidia, but jockey says it's not in use
[05:56] <rinkukokiri> so it's a bug with jockey?
[05:58] <rinkukokiri> should i file a bug with jockey then?
[05:59] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, do you have 3d acceleration working?  it is showing kernel as both nvidia-current and nouveau (open source, probably non 3d)
[06:00] <rinkukokiri> funny, because i thought i specifically went into synaptic and uninstalled nouveau... i can run glgears
[06:00] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, do you get reasonable frame rate?  even better, can you run Unity or Compiz?
[06:01] <ramondogwood> valeu
[06:01] <uglyoldbob> anybody know how i can "fix" git-daemon so it will look at the correct base folder (instead of /var/cache?)
[06:01] <rinkukokiri> i can run unity, yea
[06:01] <rinkukokiri> how do i blacklist nouveau?
[06:01] <ZykoticK9> !blacklist
[06:05] <sontek> Ubuntu 11.04 offered to install a binary ati driver after install, it totally fucked my system, is there a way to revert back to the old one?
[06:06] <rinkukokiri> still nothing
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, i think if you can run Unity that your Nvidia driver is being used - it's just Jockey that's misreporting.  Several people have visited this channel with the same issue.
[06:11] <sontek> I don't know what driver it was using before, its using radeon right now
[06:14] <FernandoTertiary> having problems with the new Thunderbird update. It is asking for a logfile posteri pushing "s" when it suggests "end"
[06:14] <FernandoTertiary> any suggestions?
[06:14] <jtannenbaum> I tried to install Ubuntu on a 40gb interal HDD in my PC.. I succeeded, but now my PC can't boot without the HDD in
[06:14] <fizyplankton> jtannenbaum: it sounds like a bios issue.
[06:14] <jtannenbaum> a grub issue I think
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> jtannenbaum, i'd say grub issue as well
[06:15] <fizyplankton> jtannenbaum: no. if the hdd is removed, grub is out of the picture
[06:15] <lapaga> well have a good night (day all)
[06:15] <jtannenbaum> since I get the grub rescue> thing
[06:15] <Raikia> I'm pretty sure my Ubuntu corrupts itself.  I leave my computer on for weeks at a time, but when I reboot (even after a completely clean install), it fails to boot occasionally (or the mouse/keyboard doesn't work, or my USB controllers fail)
[06:15] <jtannenbaum> I have a larger HDD I usually use
[06:15] <fizyplankton> jtannenbaum: if you get grub without the ubuntu hdd in, idk what you did. that means l=you have like a ventriliquist hdd, or at the very least a wireless hdd
[06:16] <Raikia> Occasionally it boots 100% (complete OS loaded into RAM) and runs fine until it gets rebooted again (obviously: pulling from harddrive to RAM)
[06:16] <jtannenbaum> when I have both in, I can use grub to choose between the two
[06:16] <jtannenbaum> I have two ubuntu HDDs, I should have said that
[06:16] <ZykoticK9> jtannenbaum, most likely grub in installed on your main HD, but the grub files are on you 40GB...  thus the problem if that drive isn't plugged in...
[06:16] <honey> i canot install software in my ubuntu10.10?
[06:16] <cillin> got a corrupt pkg database saying: Reading package lists... Error!
[06:16] <cillin> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[06:16] <cillin> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[06:16] <nit-wit> jtannenbaum, you over wrote the bigger hd's mbr with grub. What are the installs on the g=bigger non ubuntu HD?
[06:17] <Axalon> What do you mean by that, Honey? You're having problems installing software?
[06:17] <honey> Axalon:yeah
[06:17] <cillin> how to repair?
[06:17] <crass_> Hey so.. I've got a question for any emulator freaks that might be present: What's your favorite NES emulator?
[06:18] <fizyplankton> cillin: two things: pastebin, and try going to update manager and doing a full update. also, sounds stupid, but make sure firefox can connect to the inet
[06:18] <jtannenbaum> both are Ubuntu. I started with a 500gb HDD with ubuntu; I plugged a 40gb in and booted to a 10.10 CD and installed Ubuntun on the 40gb with the (now naive-seeming) intent of taking it out and putting it in another computer which wouldn't boot or recognize CD drives
[06:18] <jtannenbaum> Ubuntu*
[06:18] <ZykoticK9> crass_, mednafen is decent and in the default repo
[06:19] <ZykoticK9> crass_, it's cli based though - that doesn't work for many people...
[06:20] <fizyplankton> ZykoticK9: you kidding me??? CLI FTW!!!!!!1 im even in a cli irc client right now
[06:20] <ZykoticK9> fizyplankton, it's a plus for me too... others, not so much ;)
[06:20] <Jon--> How do I set up Ubuntu to suspend after a certain amount of time, rather than hibernate? I have issues with hibernation on my laptop.
[06:20] <nit-wit> jtannenbaum, so could you be real specific here....what are the exact distro's installed and do you know if you were using grub-legacy or grub2, on that bigger HD.
[06:21] <rinkukokiri> well, listed my bug    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/793855
[06:22] <jtannenbaum> The 500gb, which I am currently booted to, is actually 10.4; and I'm not sure which I was using but grub2 rings more of a bell. If there is a way to check I can do that
[06:22] <Loshki> jtannenbaum: what you did is entirely reasonable. Your only mistake was in failing to unplug the 500gb disk when you did the install...
[06:22] <jtannenbaum> 10.04 or whatever
[06:22] <nit-wit> jtannenbaum, so you booted to the hd by having the smaller plugged in correct.
[06:23] <rinkukokiri> !grub2 | jtannenbaum
[06:23] <jtannenbaum> yes
[06:23] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, i think this is the bug you should have marked yourself as being "affected by" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/771788
[06:23] <kennett> I installed Ubuntu 10.04 on my laptop the other day and I have no sound.
[06:23] <rinkukokiri> looks like you got grub 2
[06:24] <jtannenbaum> when the 40gb is unplugged, it says "can't find device [buncha letters]-[buncha numbers]-etc" and gives me the grub rescue> terminal
[06:24] <nit-wit> jtannenbaum, open a terminal and run sudo grub-install /dev/sda      make sure that the 500 gig is reading as sda, then the secound command is sudo update-grub.
[06:24] <rinkukokiri> ZykoticK9, well, looks like they'll have to mark a dupe and geton it
[06:24] <nit-wit> 8second
[06:25] <jtannenbaum> both commands worked fine; thank you
[06:25] <nit-wit> jtannenbaum, reboot you should be set.
[06:25] <rinkukokiri> unless there's a way I can mark mine as a dupe
[06:25] <jtannenbaum> woo
[06:25] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, you could actually
[06:25] <crass_> ZykoticK9: I'm all about the CLI.. I'll give it a shot.  Do you know it mednafen runs ok on antique boxes?
[06:25] <crass_> if*
[06:26] <rinkukokiri> ZykoticK9, done.
[06:26] <jtannenbaum> I really should learn what I'm doing with grub and bios.. there probably ins't a uni course for that stuff
[06:26] <ZykoticK9> crass_, i doubt it's requirements are very high - it emulates several systems as a bonus
[06:28] <kennett> Can some1 help me fix the no sound problem on my laptop?
[06:28] <linux_hacks> kennett: What's the error?
[06:28] <bullgard4> !sound | kennett
[06:29] <gskellig> can someone help me fix unity? When I started it said it wasn't supported, but it was before. gfx card is also listed under unity's supported graphics cards.
[06:30] <rinkukokiri> gskellig, what's your video card?
[06:31] <gskellig> intel x4500GMA
[06:31] <gskellig> I had actually fixed this problem before, but it created a lot of other, much worse problems, so I just tried reinstalling ubuntu
[06:31] <gskellig> since ONCE before, installing 11.04 led to unity working fine
[06:31] <rinkukokiri> sounds like my install
[06:31] <rinkukokiri> lol
[06:32] <gskellig> thought maybe i'd get lucky again =/
[06:32] <gskellig> what laptop?
[06:32] <rinkukokiri> asus
[06:32] <MK``> When I updated to 11.04 it changed the way notifications appear in the upper right... how can I revert it to the old behavior?
[06:32] <gskellig> asus...?
[06:32] <brown_fern> jtannenbaum: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record  and   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_loader#Second-stage_boot_loader   might make good reading.
[06:32] <gskellig> let me guess, asus UL series
[06:32] <rinkukokiri> gskellig, i got an nvidia card but the problem here is with jockey
[06:33] <rinkukokiri> nope m70
[06:33] <yagoo> !rescue
[06:33] <jtannenbaum> danke
[06:33] <gskellig> ah
[06:33] <gskellig> I have an nvidia card also
[06:33] <gskellig> hybrid graphics. =/
[06:33] <gskellig> jockey?
[06:33] <rinkukokiri> arrrrgh
[06:33] <crass_> ZykoticK9: Can you remap the keys with mednafen?
[06:33] <rinkukokiri> yeah, it's reporting my drivers as enabled, not in use.. but i can use gl soooo... i dunno
[06:33] <sontek> Is there a way to reset ubuntu to a specific state? I upgrade and installed new packages and now I no longer have the graphic effects, its like old classic gnome
[06:34] <ZykoticK9> crass_, ya - it's something weird like ALT+1 or ALT+F1...
[06:34] <sontek> but glxgears launches just fine
[06:34] <gskellig> sounds like at least you know what you're doing rinkukokiri, I'm completely lost
[06:34] <crass_> ZykoticK9: it's probably on the man page huh
[06:34] <sontek> I get 60fps in glxgears
[06:34] <gskellig> unity worked the first time I installed ubuntu, I reinstalled and it didnt work anymore. Spent hours fixing it, and did but ended up breaking 8 things in the process
[06:34] <gskellig> so i started over again at square one.
[06:35] <sontek> its using the 'radeon' driver
[06:35] <crass_> oh, shart. it's totally not.
[06:35] <rinkukokiri> gskellig, the reason i said it sounded like my install:: i have dual monitor setup, for the last two days i haven't been able to open a second notification area or window list so i can manage windows on the second monitor... all until today when it just freaking worked.
[06:35] <honey> how can i enable my dpkg it is disable how can i enable?
[06:35] <ZykoticK9> crass_, or the web site?  try "h" for help maybe?  sorry I don't have any games/emus installed anymore -- no 3d graphics :(
[06:36] <gskellig> oh nvm =(
[06:36] <gskellig> yeah i was having issues with dual monitors on my asus as well, before i had all these problems
[06:36] <gskellig> window was just black and nothing would show up except the mouse and the menu bars
[06:36] <gskellig> if i dragged a window over, it would disappear and I would just see the mouse moving around
[06:36] <Dummy> hi, got some real newbie questions about ubuntu server
[06:37] <rinkukokiri> I had to also make a shortcut on the panel to do a compiz --reload   on the second monitor so i can have titlebars on my windows.
[06:37] <crass_> ZykoticK9: I dig. it's got a local help page installed, so i'll check that.  remarkably, the page looks like the help file from fceu. i wonder if it's a fork?
[06:37] <rinkukokiri> gskellig, that's probably because you have/had two different x servers
[06:37] <rinkukokiri> that's my setup currently
[06:37] <crass_> Dummy: Well, there's plenty of people here to help.  So I've installed ubuntu server and during the install added samba
[06:39] <gskellig> would really like to get this sorted out
[06:39] <rinkukokiri> i think there are a lot of ppl here with graphics issues..
[06:39] <rinkukokiri> it's sad
[06:39] <gskellig> lol
[06:39] <Dummy> first thing, when I do "ls" or "dir" at the prompt nothing shows up. so the system is empty?
[06:39] <Tadpole_Jackson> will 11 run on half a gig of ram?
[06:39] <Tadpole_Jackson> or should i be looking for something else?
[06:39] <rinkukokiri> Dummy, try a    ls -al
[06:40] <rinkukokiri> or a pwd
[06:40] <ZykoticK9> Dummy, "dir" is an alias (not a real command), ls is the real command to "list" directory contents
[06:40] <MrCartel> Anyone know how to have separate openbox configs?
[06:40] <Dummy> I see
[06:41] <rinkukokiri> Dummy, pwd will show your Present Working Directory
[06:41] <crass_> Dummy: ls -la means 'ls, with long-format, showing all files.'
[06:41] <rinkukokiri> so you have reference
[06:41] <Tadpole_Jackson> so, will 11.04 run on a 2ghz p4 + 512DDR or am i SOL?
[06:41] <Dummy> another thing, since I really struggle with the terminal, how the heck do I get a GUI running?
[06:41] <ZykoticK9> Dummy, by default your home folder (especially on server) would probably have no files/folders, except hidden - thus "ls -a" should show stuff.
[06:41] <Dummy> thanks for all the advice guys
[06:41] <JinKazama> why if I connected to a wireless connection and then when I try to change my connection to another wireless, it doesn't allow me to connect and if I tried to connect back to the old one, it prevents
[06:42]  * chickadee flutters onto a branch and sits for a bit to observe the ebb & flow of the channel
[06:42] <ZykoticK9> Dummy, if you want a GUI - install desktop instead of server...  really the best answer.
[06:42] <crass_> Tadpole_Jackson: I'm running xubuntu 11.04 on an old POS antique school computer that I bought off of a junkie for $25. It'll work, trust me.
[06:42] <JinKazama> while in the same time, my iPhone works perfect on both connections
[06:42] <rinkukokiri> Dummy, to get a gui, you would probably want to download ubuntu-desktop and install that
[06:42] <JinKazama> and also my embathy doesn't connect
[06:42] <rinkukokiri> whoops, looks like some1 beat me to it
[06:42] <Dummy> can desktop act as a file server?
[06:42] <JinKazama> do anyone knows what's goin' on with my Ubuntu or what do I have to do to fix this?
[06:42] <gskellig> can someone help me fix unity? When I started it said it wasn't supported, but it was before. gfx card is also listed under unity's supported graphics cards.
[06:42] <Apple_Cat> This is really cool, the notification script sends any hilights to libnotify and then a cool little notification pops up
[06:42] <ZykoticK9> Dummy, desktop can do anything server can do
[06:43] <rinkukokiri> Dummy, sure, it'll just have a bit more overhead with the gui an all but you prolly won't notice it
[06:43] <JinKazama> anyone here?
[06:43] <Dummy> perhaps that's my best option then, the terminal is a pretty steep learning curve
[06:43] <Dummy> thanks for all the info guys
[06:43] <rinkukokiri> yeap
[06:43] <crass_> Dummy: What kind of file server are you trying to run? You should probably install Vanilla Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Kubuntu instead.
[06:44]  * rinkukokiri wants chocolate ubuntu
[06:44]  * crass_ drools.... mmmm, chocolate Ubuntu....
[06:44] <yfk> is there a way to use linux to recover a .docx password?
[06:45] <crass_> with *nix, anything is possible.
[06:45] <brown_fern> Dummy: Bash Guide for Beginners and The Linux System Administrators' Guide at http://tldp.org/guides.html    The Linux Documentation Project.
[06:45] <rinkukokiri> yfk, you /do know/ you can just open .docx files with 7zip right?
[06:45] <crass_> Dummy bailed.
[06:45] <brown_fern> I am slow :-(
[06:45] <crass_> brown_fern: and zsh is better anyway ;)
[06:45] <tlhonmey> yfk: docx is a zip container.  And yes, there are zip password crackers available.
[06:47] <tlhonmey> So, I've just got my hands on a machine with an Intel Pentium G620 BX80623G620 Processor.   :D
[06:48] <crass_> brown_fern: I used to be able to work wonders with zsh, but now i've gotten lazy. I feel where you're coming from, there.
[06:48] <tlhonmey> crass_: It's brand new.  And the 32 bit installer boots, but then can't mount the CD.
[06:48] <rinkukokiri> yfk, it'll be just a bit unnerving when you realize the entirety of the document is stored as XML data
[06:49] <tlhonmey> crass_: I was hoping somebody could tell me if I needed the intel 64 bit version for that series of processors.
[06:49] <JinKazama> why if I connected to a wireless connection and then when I try to change my connection to another wireless, it doesn't allow me to connect and if I tried to connect back to the old one, it prevents
[06:49] <JinKazama> while in the same time, my iPhone works perfect on both connections
[06:49] <crass_> tlhonmey: weird. try a different flavor of ubuntu maybe, just to see if it works.
[06:49] <JinKazama> do anyone knows what's goin' on with my Ubuntu or what do I have to do to fix this?
[06:49] <crass_> tlhonmey: or maybe try an older version.
[06:50] <brown_fern> crass: I could never work wonders, but I was once a lot better with commands than I am now, it's sad really.
[06:50] <tlhonmey> crass_: I tried Mint 10, it bails to initramfs, as does 9.04 amd64.
[06:50] <perscitus> qin,  i figured out the problem
[06:51] <yfk> rinkukokiri, can I use this http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/p7zip-full/download ?
[06:51] <honey> my dpkg is locked how can i enable is there any body who can help me
[06:51] <qin> perscitus: Hem? Tell me.
[06:51] <rinkukokiri> yfk actually i have a doc open in archive manager right now... I
[06:51] <JinKazama> why if I connected to a wireless connection and then when I try to change my connection to another wireless, it doesn't allow me to connect and if I tried to connect back to the old one, it prevents
[06:51] <JinKazama> while in the same time, my iPhone works perfect on both connections
[06:51] <JinKazama> do anyone knows what's goin' on with my Ubuntu or what do I have to do to fix this?
[06:51] <perscitus> qin,  Power cable wasnt plugged in all the way. doh
[06:51] <crass_> brown_fern: I once wrote a zsh script to organize all my music, cuz the renamer that was packaged with xfce segfaulted on me *one time* ... I was hopped up on a bunch of speed though, and that sounds like a good idea when you're gakked out of your head.
[06:52] <yfk> so I can use the cli 7z with the graphical archive manager?
[06:52]  * yfk needs to think every time he does something with Linux
[06:52] <perscitus> qin, one could say, monitor didnt have the power for higher resolutions.
[06:52] <tlhonmey> honey: Usually the easiest way to clear that is to reboot.
[06:52] <rinkukokiri> yfk, i have rar, unrar and 7zip-full installed via synaptic
[06:53] <crass_> yfk: if you install the 7zip package, it'll work with the gui archive manager.
[06:53] <qin> perscitus: Seriously, that would take a bit time to take into account. Nice ;)
[06:53] <rinkukokiri> s/7zip-full/p7zip-full/
[06:53] <perscitus> qin,  But whats funny is that Windows obviously has more tolerance for such issues.
[06:54] <honey> tlhonmey>how can i reboot that
[06:54] <crass_> I can't even use windows anymore.
[06:54] <ZykoticK9> honey, they mean reboot the computer
[06:54] <crass_> I just get angry at the fact that it's such a kludgy POS
[06:54] <perscitus> crass_,  im 98% windows now. was 98% ubuntu but i hate having to fix it.
[06:55] <ZykoticK9> perscitus, there are other gnu/linux distros that require a lot less fixing.
[06:55] <perscitus> crass_,  thats what i think about ubuntu actually. Windows 7 always worked for me. never had a major issue with it
[06:55] <mykal> hi all. any method of sorting files via command line. have a huge folder full of files, they are all well named. what
[06:55] <crass_> perscitus: I almost never have to fix my xubuntu box.
[06:55] <perscitus> ZykoticK9,  nope. tried them all
[06:56] <mykal> i want to do, is auto sort them into folders
[06:56] <mykal> kind of like find and match
[06:56] <kennett> ubottu: I tried those links and still can't get any sound.
[06:56] <crass_> oh ubottu, you crack me up, you mechanized lil' fart.
[06:56] <kennett> linux_hacks: I don't have any sound.
[06:57] <gskellig> can someone help me fix unity? When I started it said it wasn't supported, but it was before. gfx card is also listed under unity's supported graphics cards.
[06:57] <chickadee> @Tadpole Jackson: Have you tried DamnSmall Linux or CrunchBang ?
[06:57] <mykal> kennett, what you may find is that alsamixer is turned all the way down, happens to me on some new installs
[06:57] <yfk> it says "archive type not supported " any idea?
[06:57] <mykal> ! alsamixer
[06:57] <qin> mykal: find . -name pattern -exec cp /folder {} ; more neatty stuff in script
[06:57] <crass_> chickadee: or Knoppix?
[06:58] <mykal> ! alsa-mixer
[06:58] <mykal> lol, ifail
[06:58] <crass_> !alsa-mixer
[06:58] <qin> !alsa
[06:58] <crass_> Doesn't work, mykal
[06:59] <crass_> Ah-hah!
[06:59] <qin> !amixer
[07:00] <tlhonmey> Well, never mind.  I guess there's no point to asking which version I need for this strangely behaving processor, since it seems there are only two available anymore...
[07:00] <kennett> mykal: It's not turned down.
[07:01] <mykal> kennett, in the alsamixer in the command line, does it have little 'm's under it
[07:01] <mykal> i nearly cut my won head of when i realised i had been staring at muted audo for 30 mins
[07:01] <rinkukokiri> yfk, try opening a terminal and sudo apt-get install rar unrar p7zip-full
[07:01] <rinkukokiri> then try opening it
[07:02] <kennett> mykal: there are 00 and MM
[07:02] <yfk> rinkukokiri, only rar wasn't installed
[07:02] <yfk> same error message
[07:03] <rinkukokiri> hrm...
[07:03] <yfk> I am able to extract the .xml with command line using 7z
[07:03] <yfk> BTW, what's the diff between 7z adn 7za?
[07:03] <mykal> kennett, well that sounds right. try turning them all to 80% odd, other than that, have you tried all available audio jacks?
[07:03] <yfk> *and
[07:03] <mykal> kennett, and get rid of the mm
[07:03] <mykal> *sssss
[07:04] <rinkukokiri> 7za is a stand alone exectuable
[07:04] <mykal> kennett, sorry, the 'm's
[07:04] <rinkukokiri> 7z is the full program
[07:05] <rinkukokiri> yfk, man 7za
[07:05] <kennett> mykal: how do I get rid of them?
[07:05] <yfk> rinkukokiri, both are "A file archiver with highest compression ratio"
[07:06] <arapaima> what's a good channel for textbooks?
[07:06] <gskellig> can someone help me fix unity? When I started it said it wasn't supported, but it was before. gfx card is also listed under unity's supported graphics cards.
[07:06] <yfk> but the description tells the difference :)
[07:07] <yfk> what should I do with the extracted files from the .xml
[07:07] <gskellig> brb
[07:07] <mykal> ones you have the relevant channell highlighted, hit the 'M' key to toggle mute
[07:07] <rinkukokiri> yfk the document data is in word/document.xml
[07:07] <mykal> kennett, ones you have the relevant channell highlighted, hit the 'M' key to toggle mute
[07:08] <rinkukokiri> yfk, i was trying to find a reference to 'password' or 'security' but it's apparently not that simple
[07:08] <rinkukokiri> yfk, in the mean time... http://www.openwall.com/passwords/microsoft-word
[07:09] <rinkukokiri> they all look like they're paid for though :(
[07:09] <rinkukokiri> and win 32 for that matter
[07:10] <ZykoticK9> rinkukokiri, thus OT for this channel
[07:10] <yfk> rinkukokiri, the only linux one there only opens 97/2000
[07:10] <rinkukokiri> actually... http://www.password-crackers.com/crack/guaword.html#versions
[07:11] <PIn> guys type in , in the terminal "sudo shutdown -h 0" to see a hiden feature of ubuntu, Its AWESOME! omg
[07:11] <rinkukokiri> files using new Office XP/2003/2007/2010 encryption with keys 128-256 bit long.
[07:11] <rinkukokiri> Free v. 0.9
[07:11] <rinkukokiri>
[07:11] <rinkukokiri> YES (only simple files)
[07:11] <rinkukokiri>
[07:11] <FloodBot1> rinkukokiri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:11] <rinkukokiri> sorry FloodBot1
[07:13] <yfk> rinkukokiri, thanks man!
[07:13] <mykal> kennett,
[07:13] <mykal> kennett, any luck???
[07:14] <kennett> mykal: Some luck, my headphone jack doesn't work but my speakers do at least.
[07:15] <rinkukokiri> yfk  np man!
[07:15] <blvnfsm> hello. i'm having a problem mounting a hard drive. i'm working on a friend's computer and trying to recover his data. i boot ubuntu live from a disk and go into the command line. i try 'sudo fdisk -l' and nothing happens. i tried sfdisk as well and still nothing. when i try 'sudo cfdisk -P r' it says "FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive." any idea what the problem is?
[07:15] <mykal> kennett, yeah, that is a problem i have had as well. headphone jack on the front right. never got that one fixed sorry. i usually just plug them into the back or the headphone jack on the speakers. same for mic if needed
[07:15] <chickadee> Hello everyone, is anyone available to help me format an external USB hd please? I am running Ubuntu 5.0 on a live disc.
[07:16] <tlhonmey> blvnfsm: If you're trying to recover a failed disk, start by making a bitwise copy of it with ddrescue.  Otherwise you might destroy what's left of the data with your recovery attempts.
[07:16] <rinkukokiri> blvnfsm, does the drive show up in bios???  (i'm asking because I do think the disk is completely SOL)
[07:16] <mykal> chickadee, if you can detect the drive, just right click and select format, then whatever options
[07:16] <tlhonmey> s/might/will probably/
[07:17] <rinkukokiri> ubuntu 5?????    wow
[07:17] <kennett> mykal: It's a laptop so there is only one headphone jack. :{
[07:17] <blvnfsm> tlhonmey and rinkukokiri: it may be that it's just dead. good idea to check for it in the bios. thanks, not sure why i didn't try that first
[07:17] <mykal> kennett, ah, i see, but the speakers on the lappy work
[07:18] <kennett> mykal: Yup. Thank you so much.
[07:18] <rinkukokiri> blvnfsm, next try I would say check smart data (if available)
[07:19] <Raikia> Has anyone here successfully set up trac 0.12 with SVN on Maverick?
[07:19] <mykal> kennett, np. gluck with the headphone jack
[07:19] <chickadee> @rinkukokiri: meh, it was the quickest version I had lying around. :)
[07:19] <rinkukokiri> ubottu should learn some things about smartmon
[07:20] <rinkukokiri> chickadee, lol :D
[07:20] <kennett> mykal: Thanks I'm gonna keep looking around for an answer.
[07:21] <chickadee> so i've tried fdisking the /dev/sdb1 and going through the list of menu commands, but without proper knowlege of what the commands do, I am not 100% sure what to do with regards to properly formatting and "zeroing" the drive.
[07:22] <chickadee> I've also tried zeroing the drive using the dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M command, but that also didn't work.
[07:22] <chickadee> i tried cfdisk but it gave me errors
[07:23] <rinkukokiri> chickadee,  are you sure you want to 'full zero'  the drive?? will a simple format suffice?
[07:23] <chickadee> so i tried sfdisk but that seemed to provide closer details of what I was looking for, but still no cigar.
[07:24] <chickadee> @rinkukokiri: I want to do a full zero of the drive to be /absolutely sure/ it is reset completley to original factory defaults.
[07:24] <mykal> chickadee, are you sure simply using GUI under, System, Administration, Disk Utility wont get it done for you. It's pretty comperhensive
[07:24] <chickadee> @mykal: I'll try that...
[07:25]  * chickadee brb's
[07:25] <rinkukokiri> mykal, chickadee is using ubuntu 5.  is 'disk utility' there?
[07:25] <tlhonmey> Disk utility was not available under ubuntu 5.
[07:25] <mykal> rinkukokiri, woah, sorry mate, missed that
[07:25] <tlhonmey> gparted was if he can install it.
[07:26] <mykal> chickadee, sorry mate, missed the v5 thing
[07:26] <chickadee> i tried using Gparted as well, but it kept hanging my desktop. :S
[07:26] <chickadee> @mykal: np, guy! :)
[07:27] <iszak> chickadee, why such an old version of ubuntu?
[07:27] <mykal> chickadee, so i guess your stuck for a different live cd, newer one
[07:27] <Ascavasaion> I am trying to install Flash 10, and have installed Flashplugin-nonfree and Flashplugin-installer.  But when I access websites with Flashplayer components it says it is not installed.  I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and Firefox.
[07:27] <tlhonmey> chickadee: Hanging your desktop?  That's... odd...  Although, depending on the age of the machine it might take it a little bit to scan all the drives.
[07:27] <mykal> Ascavasaion, chrome ftw
[07:28] <tlhonmey> Ascavasaion: That should have worked...  Did you restart Firefox after you installed them?
[07:28] <MrCartel> Is the colon an invalid char for openbox menu.xml?
[07:28] <rinkukokiri> chickadee, this may help you.. step by step.. http://www.ehow.com/how_1000631_hard-drive-linux.html
[07:28] <Kamilion> Howdy all. I've got a AMD E-350 with a Radeon HD 6310. I'm trying to get it to work on Maverick 10.10, but I can't get rid of this "AMD UNSUPPORTED HARDWARE" watermark in the corner.
[07:28] <Ascavasaion> tlhonmey: YEs.
[07:28] <chickadee> tlhonmey: I do not have a HD inside the machine I am running Ubuntu 5 on. :) It is running Live from the disc.
[07:28]  * chickadee *checks rinkukokiri's url out*
[07:28] <chickadee> brb's
[07:29] <Ascavasaion> tlhonmey: Okay, I will remove them and reinstall them
[07:29] <tlhonmey> chickadee: Ubuntu 5 had issues running live occasionally.  How much memory do you have?
[07:30] <Klavier> how can i reset ps/2 port. my ps2 keyboard locked and not working
[07:30] <mykal> Kamilion, watermark??? really???? kk then, have you tried just heading to the ubuntu software center and using the free ati drivers there, if applicable
[07:30] <Klavier> iam using another usb keyboard
[07:30] <Klavier> can reset ps2 port without restart pc
[07:31] <Kamilion> mykal: yes. That's why I have the watermark.
[07:31] <ZykoticK9> Klavier, i think you need to restart your PC, PS/2 Keyboards are not hot pluggable in anyway (should never be unplugged from a running machine actually)
[07:31] <Kamilion> I can't seem to get any newer ATI drivers to work either
[07:31] <Kamilion> I think they want kernel 2.6.38, bit 10.10 has 2.6.35
[07:32] <Kamilion> Can't run natty because the ROS packages for it arn't complete yet
[07:32] <Klavier> ZykoticK9,  i didnt unplugged it
[07:32] <Klavier> it locked and not working
[07:32] <Klavier> i dont want to restart
[07:32] <Klavier> is there another way?
[07:33] <Kamilion> Klavier: Unplug the ps2 connector and plug it back in to reset the keyboard's processor.
[07:33] <tlhonmey> Ascavasaion: I'm runing 10.04 on this machine at the moment, and all it needed was to have one of the Flash 10 packages installed.
[07:33] <tlhonmey> Klavier: replug it?  That's about all I can think of.
[07:33] <tlhonmey> ZykoticK9: Modern ones are.  Anything over about 14 years old though you can burn out the port by unplugging it while it's running.
[07:33] <Kamilion> Klavier: if the host side is locked up, nothing you can do but reboot.
[07:33] <Ascavasaion> tlhonmey: I thought so as well... so I uninstalled it through synaptic, and am busy reinstalling it as we speak.
[07:34] <Kamilion> ZykoticK9: They're not considered hot pluggable because if a PS/2 Device doesn't exist at poweron, the bios will ignore the port and plugging in a keyboard/mouse later will not initialize the port. Electrically, it can be hotplugged without issue.
[07:34] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys so whats with all this stuff about the new ubuntu release.. i read they made the main desktop just like the mini netbook version???
[07:34] <mykal> Kamilion, not sure if this will work, but looks like it was fixing 5XXX when they where limited support
[07:34] <mykal> http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?19875-Unsupported-Hardware-watermark
[07:34] <Cpt_Zyph> is this true or just some jaded reviews..
[07:35] <ZykoticK9> Kamilion, tlhonmey - I'll take both your words for it - i'm not using a PS/2 anymore, but I don't think I'd be willing to try it either ;)
[07:35] <mykal> Cpt_Zyph, its called unity, it's all true, and i would download the live cd and have a crack urself ;')
[07:36]  * chickadee afk's until she finishes with rinkukokiri's url. Then she will get back to you all with your questions. :)
[07:36] <Kamilion> mykal: Thanks. Found another thread in that forum that looks like it may help.
[07:36] <Cpt_Zyph> hum... well i have a netbook but after trying the old netbook release i liked the normal version and installed that ...
[07:36] <mykal> Cpt_Zyph, they are now the same version, and its still very new. im sure it will become more polished in 11.10
[07:36] <Kamilion> mykal: "I installed ati driver from git through xorg-edgers."  -- Know any instructions/howtos on this topic?
[07:36] <Ascavasaion> tlhonmey: It worked :)  Simply uninstalling and reinstalling it worked. :)
[07:36] <Cpt_Zyph> mykal im starting to think maybe i dont want to do an upgrade or is there something else about it that sets it aside.. or some articles as to why they made these changes??
[07:37] <gskellig> aha
[07:37] <Cpt_Zyph> i have also heard that its got some memory leaks or dose
[07:37] <gskellig> the 4th install went the same as the first! unity is fixed by default with no problems!
[07:37] <mykal> Cpt_Zyph, you can choose 'classic' n login im pretty sure
[07:37] <Cpt_Zyph> does not run quite the same or as smoth as the older version
[07:37] <Kamilion> I don't mind pulling in a couple PPAs as long as I've got something to follow.
[07:37] <Cpt_Zyph> whats that exactly?? classic log in?
[07:37] <mykal> Kamilion, never done that mate, not sure
[07:38] <ZykoticK9> Cpt_Zyph, classic = gnome2
[07:38] <Kamilion> Thanks.
[07:38] <Cpt_Zyph> i like to try them all regardless and stay upt o speed with the trends.. i did like that about my fedora releases as they always seemed to be quite current
[07:38] <Kamilion> well, some new stuff to go google then.
[07:38] <rinkukokiri> Kamilion, advising someone to unplug a non hot-pluggable device isn't usually standard protocol... epically in this channel.
[07:39] <mykal> Cpt_Zyph, i think it's a little more gpu heavy. this machine flat refused unity and defaulted to gnome 2
[07:40] <Cpt_Zyph> hummmm
[07:40] <Cpt_Zyph> i have a dell mini vostro
[07:41] <skumara> when i'm using ubuntu LTS 10.04 my laptop temperature is 45 to 55 degree celcius. But in natty temperature jump to 70 celcius even in gnome classic. Anyone has similar problem?
[07:41] <Kamilion> Restarting PS/2 devices usually won't cause damage due to the fact that modern keyboard controllers in southbridges tend to have more robust I/O lines built into them which are harder to damage than those of older ISA/PCI controllers.
[07:41] <rinkukokiri> This feature is highly dependent on the computer's BIOS. Because
[07:41] <rinkukokiri> PS/2 hotplug is not in the PS/2 specification, some PS/2 controllers may not
[07:41] <rinkukokiri> correctly handle "hotplugging" of a device, and some may short out devices.
[07:41] <rinkukokiri> This new driver does nothing special to accommodate hotplug other than
[07:41] <rinkukokiri> ignore initialization errors.
[07:41] <FloodBot1> rinkukokiri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:41] <Kamilion> I've fried a couple 486s.
[07:41] <Flannel> skumara: Are you sure you're using 10.04?  That didn't have a GNOME classic.
[07:41] <Kamilion> Never anything pentium or above.
[07:42] <Flannel> rinkukokiri: Please stop pasting large things in the channel.  Use pastebin.
[07:42] <gskellig> how do you fry a 486
[07:42] <Kamilion> Basically, the modern chipsets protect their PS/2 ports the same way the USB ports are protected. Because both are in the same southbridge chip now.
[07:42] <skumara> Flannel, gnome classic in natty. I mean natty causes my laptop to heat up compared to lucid.
[07:42] <gskellig> is that why modern computers have PS2 ports still?
[07:42] <chickadee-afk> @Flannel: What is "pastebin" ?
[07:43] <Flannel> !paste | chickadee-afk
[07:43] <rinkukokiri> sorry if 'pasting large things' in channel is worse than telling someone to unplug a non hot pluggable device Flannel ...
[07:43] <gskellig> wow that was lightning fast flannel
[07:43] <gskellig> I had typed !p when you had it finished
[07:44] <silv3r_m00n> hi there , I am planning to do a fresh installation of ubuntu 11.04 , I have another ext4 partition which has some backup data , can I select that partition for the /home during installtion without disturbing the existing data ? (ubuntu would be installed on the main ext4 partition)
[07:45] <Flannel> silv3r_m00n: Yeah, you can install "around" a home partition
[07:45] <rinkukokiri> Kamilion, given it's only a keyboard, still the specification does not allow hotplugging. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS/2_connector#Hotplugging
[07:45] <chickadee-afk> Wow! that is a cool tool! :d
[07:45] <chickadee-afk> :d
[07:45] <chickadee-afk> :D
[07:45] <chickadee-afk> (now if only i can emote properly! >.< ' )
[07:46] <sipior> rinkukokiri: the rest of us have moved on. feel free to continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:46] <IdleOne> silv3r_m00n: make sure to uncheck the format box or that data will be lost
[07:46] <silv3r_m00n> Flannel: I have 2 ext4 partitions , on 1 I have ubuntu 9.10 and on 2 I have backup data , I will install ubuntu 11.04 on partition 1 and want to put /home on partition 2 , so would the existing data on partition 2 be ok ?
[07:46] <silv3r_m00n> IdleOne: ok
[07:47] <rinkukokiri> sipior, no need to continue... the facts have been presented
[07:47]  * sipior rolls his eyes
[07:48] <Kamilion> I'm not going to argue any further, but implimentations of specifications can change or improve. *shrug*
[07:49] <sipior> Kamilion: seriously. drop it.
[07:49] <Kamilion> or what? You'll argue with me more? *shrug* I don't really care.
[07:50] <Ionic> Hi. Does linux-image-2.6.38-8 give me kernel <IP_ADDRESS>, or is it just some wierd naming? Also, why am I getting <IP_ADDRESS> when installing linux-source, if .8 is the newest version and linux-image does also give you -8, apparently
[07:52] <mrkrrtft> hi folks.
[07:54] <mrkrrtft> I'm having problems getting 11.04 to connect  to the Verizon 3G hotspot on my DroidX.  It worked on 10.10, but not on 11.04.  It's using WPA PSK, and 11.04 is asking for the WPA key which I type in.  It then continues to prompt for they key. Yes it is correct. :) .... I'm not sure what logs to look at to know what the error is.  Any ideas?
[07:56] <mrkrrtft> Can anyone help?'m having problems getting 11.04 to connect  to the Verizon 3G hotspot on my DroidX.  It worked on 10.10, but not on 11.04.  It's using WPA PSK, and 11.04 is asking for the WPA key which I type in.  It then continues to prompt for they key. Yes it is correct. :) .... I'm not sure what logs to look at to know what the error is.  Any ideas?
[07:56] <vanquish349> how would i make a bash script run another bash script
[07:56] <sipior> mrkrrtft: might have a look in daemon.log
[07:57] <ZykoticK9> vanquish349, same as running any other command (although you'd need the full path, if the script isn't in your $PATH)
[07:58] <vanquish349> ZykoticK9: ok
[07:58] <gskellig> mrkrrtft, try #cyanogenmod, they give a lot of android help, and i know some people there have droidX's
[07:58] <mrkrrtft> sipior: nothing in it.  I remembered something about dmesg from years ago, so I typed it.  I see "wlan0: direct probe to macaddress (try 1/3) to (try 3/3) and then "timed out"
[07:58] <gskellig> i have a droidX as well, and it tethers perfectly to my 11.04 laptop
[07:59] <mrkrrtft> gskellig: Thanks... I'll try that.
[07:59] <mrkrrtft> gskellig: are you rooted?  I"m using the stock OTA 2.3 GB that just came out
[07:59] <Jordan_U> vanquish349: Just use the path to the script.
[07:59] <gskellig> you updated with the OTA? not with an unofficial update?
[08:00] <gskellig> gingerbread broke the traditional tethering for me. I think it had to do with being rooted. I have to either pay for the hotspot or use USB tether now. (wifi tether without paying wasn't illegal before btw)
[08:00] <mrkrrtft> gskellig: yep.  I wanted to see what the offical release was like.  I know I can always SBF back to 2.3.340 and then upgrade.
[08:00] <speakman> I'm stuck at an NFS mount failing to mount at boot. It says "Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery". But nothing works! And I can't get it to boot!
[08:00] <gskellig> if you got the OTA straight from verizon you should be fine. Also if you pay for the hotspot you should also be fine.
[08:01] <gskellig> I DO know for a fact that the rooted wifi tether apps in the market stopped working with 2.3 (OTA or unofficial)
[08:01] <ZykoticK9> speakman, you could "recovery console" and remove the NFS from your fstab?
[08:01] <gskellig> good luck either way
[08:01] <mrkrrtft> gskellig: argh.... I didn't know you had to pay for it..... I think I may downgrade back to froyo so I can use barnacle again... that worked with 11.04
[08:01] <mrkrrtft> nothing else worked though
[08:01] <mrkrrtft> thanks gskellig
[08:02] <gskellig> yeah mrkrrtft, barnacle/wifi tether broke with 2.3, stupid verizon. however PDAnet with USB tether still works
[08:03] <speakman> ZykoticK9: recovery console also halts on failing nfs mount
[08:03] <Jordan_U> jtannenbaum: Run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" in both your Ubuntu installs and make sure that in each install you select only the drive corrosponding to that install as an install device for grub. That way you will never have an install of grub looking for its files on another drive (just using grub-install is not enough as the grub-pc packaging runs grub-install itself whenever it is upgraded).
[08:03] <ZykoticK9> speakman, really?  wow, I figured it would start without trying to mount any NFS stuff.  sorry, I have no idea.  Best of luck!
[08:05] <MK``> When I updated to 11.04 it changed the way notifications appear in the upper right... how can I revert it to the old behavior?
[08:05] <speakman> ZykoticK9: in the best of worlds. Unfortently that's not the case :(
[08:05] <Ionic> Hm yeah
[08:06] <sipior> speakman: this is the root volume that fails to mount, i assume?
[08:06] <Ionic> Getting the source of linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic-pae it says <IP_ADDRESS> in the Makefile
[08:06] <speakman> but - if pressing S or M worked, there wouldn't be any problems. But it doesn't!
[08:06] <Ionic> Oh my, I guess I'll never understand Ubuntu *shrugs*
[08:06] <Ionic> Thanks though
[08:06] <speakman> sipior: nope, it's just a global storage (say NAS)
[08:07] <ZykoticK9> MK``, i highly doubt you can revert to the old behaviour.  I certainly could be wrong.  Good luck.
[08:07] <speakman> Do it has to do with me using USB keyboard?
[08:08] <sipior> speakman: try booting from a live cd, and change the mount type to soft (at least temporarily)
[08:09] <Bakerconspiracy> anyone know a good virtual machine to get started with?
[08:09] <tlhonmey> Virtualbox is pretty simple and useful.
[08:09] <mikey_> can anyone help me with my install of ubuntu 11.04
[08:09] <helplearn> After changing the write permissions to /tmp (so that I don't get the sanity-check error) things work fine but, unfortunately, such changes are lost the next time I reboot and I have to issue chmod from the console everytime I reboot, How can I change the write permissions to /tmp and make those changes persist in the future?
[08:09] <Coke> Ello. Is there some UI-integration for entering SSH passwords and/or passphrases for the key?
[08:09] <tlhonmey> mikey_: Probably.
[08:10] <Bakerconspiracy> I'll take a look tlhonmey thanks
[08:10] <josmala> Does anyone else have problems with compiz & pyglet combination?
[08:10] <Coke> For instance, if I execute ssh user@remotehost the prompt will appear in X instead of console.
[08:10] <tlhonmey> Bakerconspiracy: The PUEL version is *far* more useful than the OSE version, provided you're not using it commercially.  Read the license.
[08:11] <Coke> I'm guessing ssh-agent is used in Ubuntu?
[08:11] <mykal> mikey_, just ask mate, whats the problem
[08:12] <Gorlak> yes coke, i have seen ssh-agent in ubuntu, used by it too
[08:12] <speakman> sipior: good point!
[08:12] <chickadee-afk> Out of curiosity, in case I wanted to add a level of security to my storage HD while having it readible (?) by Linux as well as an XP machine, what would be the best way to encrypt it ?
[08:12] <mikey_> i installed ubuntu 11.04 and when i rebooted it up it comes up saying no prefix and im stuck on grub
[08:12] <Bakerconspiracy> tlhonmey I probably gotta build that online right?
[08:12] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk, try truecrypt, i found it pretty good for that purpose
[08:12] <tlhonmey> Bakerconspiracy: They have deb packages for it at Virtualbox.org.
[08:12] <chickadee-afk> Sweet! Thanks, Gorlak! :D I'll try it out!! ^^\/
[08:13] <Gorlak> yea, I used the same thing for a while
[08:13] <chickadee-afk> @Gorlak: does it have to be installed?
[08:13] <tlhonmey> You're just not supposed to use it commercially without buying a license.  (It's quite a reasonable price though.)
[08:13] <Gorlak> I had an external storage HD that i encrypted i used it for windows and linux
[08:13] <chickadee-afk> or can it be run remotely?
[08:13] <mykal> mikey_, how did you install?
[08:13] <Gorlak> yes, it does actually
[08:13] <Gorlak> its pretty simple for linux and windows though
[08:13] <chickadee-afk> sweet!
[08:13] <Gorlak> what you would prolly want though-
[08:13] <chickadee-afk> O.o ?
[08:13] <mikey_> through usb drive, its on a net book
[08:14] <helplearn> After changing the write permissions to /tmp (so that I don't get the sanity-check error) things work fine but, unfortunately, such changes are lost the next time I reboot and I have to issue chmod from the console everytime I reboot, How can I change the write permissions to /tmp and make those changes persist in the future?
[08:14] <mykal> mikey_, complete format?
[08:14] <Gorlak> is to read some stuff about it, then encrypt your external, with the file system set to NTFS so it can be read by both OSes
[08:14] <chickadee-afk> really? NTFS? o.o
[08:14] <mikey_> going off xp
[08:14] <Gorlak> well,
[08:15] <chickadee-afk> not Fat32?
[08:15] <mikey_> i did a complete format though
[08:15] <Gorlak> it has to be read by windows, so NTFS is going to be the file system,
[08:15] <Gorlak> I wouldnt use any FAT unless its a flash drive,
[08:15] <chickadee-afk> ah
[08:15] <chickadee-afk> @Gorlak: how come?
[08:15] <Gorlak> most flash drives use fat anyway but here is why
[08:15] <vanquish349> how would i make a bash script open another bash script in a new terminal
[08:15] <mykal> chickadee-afk, my bad mate, its a usb hard drive, will still be detected
[08:15] <chickadee-afk> o.O
[08:15] <Gorlak> not stable for long term, high storage needs
[08:16] <Jordan_U> helplearn: What sanity check error? What is the output of "ls -ld /tmp/" ? Can you pastebin your /etc/fstab?
[08:16] <ZykoticK9> mykal, "gnome-terminal -e foo" perhaps?
[08:16] <chickadee-afk> @mykal ?
[08:16] <Gorlak> doesnt support all the nice things NTFS does, IF you just wanted it to be used on linux I would say use the truecrypt and then format the drive EXT4
[08:16] <Gorlak> correction--
[08:16] <chickadee-afk> o.O
[08:17] <mykal> ZykoticK9, ???
[08:17] <vanquish349> how would i make a bash script open another bash script in a new terminal
[08:17] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk you format the drive NTFS, then you create a truecrypt file on it which will be just about the size of the whole drive, then when you mount that file as a drive letter, format that NTFS as well.
[08:17] <ZykoticK9> mykal, sorry - nic fail on my part
[08:17] <ZykoticK9> vanquish349,  "gnome-terminal -e foo" perhaps?
[08:17] <Gorlak> chieckadee-afk there are 2 file systems we are talking about =)
[08:17] <chickadee-afk> @Gorlak: Thanks! I will try to accomplish that! ^_^ ' \m/
[08:18] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk ok. good luck with it, there are plenty of guides, especially for truecrypt
[08:18] <Krause> good morning folks, got a question for ya
[08:18] <helplearn> Jordan_U: The sanity check error it gives when you boot into your system and /tmp doesn't have write permissions. The output of ls -ld /tmp is obviously such that only the owner has write permissions and the sticky bit is not set: I know how to change that and I do it, solving the error, the problem is that THE NEXT TIME I REBOOT things come back to where they started (no sticky bit, no write permissions,etc.).
[08:18] <vanquish349> ZykoticK9: ok
[08:18] <chickadee-afk> now should the Hex code I choose for NTFS be 86 or 87 ?
[08:18] <mykal> Gorlak, out of interest, wouldn't some sort of lvm be better for that, not that im great with this stuff
[08:18] <Gorlak> mykal for the external?
[08:19] <chickadee-afk> lvm ?
[08:19]  * chickadee-afk looks up truecrypt in the meantime
[08:19] <mykal> ah, true, not much point.
[08:19] <vanquish349> ZykoticK9: it says foo notfound
[08:19] <Krause> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 on a server to which I have no physical access and I want to use Python 2.7 instead of 2.6 (which is the default)
[08:19] <BiggFREE> Is kernel <IP_ADDRESS> stable ?
[08:19] <Gorlak> mykal for simplicity sake ( and you want that when you are dealing with encryption, as once the whole block is encrypted you must be careful not to damage the file or you could lose all the data)
[08:19] <Krause> is there an easy way to upgrade that single package, or what way should I go about it?
[08:19] <Gorlak> I would not recommend lvm for an external hard drive, that needs to be encrypted
[08:19] <qin> vanquish349: gnome-terminal -e echo foo
[08:19] <ZykoticK9> vanquish349, foo is something you replace - it's a variable.  so the script you want to run in place of "foo"
[08:20] <vanquish349> ZykoticK9: ohh lol
[08:20] <vanquish349> i am only just starting out with bash
[08:20] <red> Hello, does anyone know how to resolve this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2188345/unity-screwed.png -- the icons are there, but everything is black, when I mouseover the black area I get tooltips showing the hidden icons name
[08:20] <red> It had happened during last night, screen locked overnight and when I unlocked it, the icons were missing
[08:21] <mykal> vanquish349, the guys in #bash at freenode are always helpful if you want to master
[08:21] <Gorlak> red have you rebooted the machine?
[08:21] <red> I tried rebooting yes
[08:21] <Gorlak> red no joy?
[08:21] <red> Also tried changing icon theme, and tweaking Unity settings in compiz config settings manager
[08:21] <red> no joy
[08:21] <Gorlak> you use unity or gnome?
[08:21] <mykal> mikey_, um, perhaps just try reinstall???
[08:21] <red> Unity
[08:21] <red> default natty stuff
[08:22] <mykal> mikey_, just be sure to cross your fingers extra hard this time
[08:22] <red> havent tweaked much since it's my work computer
[08:22] <mikey_> i have 3 times already from flash drive
[08:22] <Gorlak> red meh i dont like unity if you were using gnome i would say reset your gnome profile
[08:22] <vanquish349> mykal: ohh lol didnt know about that
[08:22] <red> I like Unity over gnome :)
[08:22] <vanquish349> goodbye going there now
[08:22] <ghsh> red:that would be a bad .conf file  -- just dellete it or the .directory
[08:22] <chickadee-afk> @Gorlak: the version of Truecrypt to download -- would it be the Windows version or the Linux version ? and if Linux, which package?
[08:22] <chickadee-afk> :X
[08:22] <red> ghsh: I suppose I'll try
[08:22] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk you are using this on both windows and linux right?
[08:22] <chickadee-afk> i guess it would be the linux version
[08:22] <chickadee-afk> @Gorlak: yes
[08:23] <chickadee-afk> atm it is plugged into my linux box
[08:23] <chickadee-afk> my "bare bones" system
[08:23] <speakman> talking about Unity - are there any good keyboard shortcuts to know about?
[08:23] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk then you would need both, download the windows version and install it in windows, and download.. most likely since you are here you will need the debian one, it is actually an install script, sh
[08:23] <red> I removed the default super brings out app menu binding since it locks up the system for a good second or two while loading :p
[08:23] <Gorlak> red you could try to google 'reset unity desktop
[08:24] <Gorlak> red that might set things back to a fresh login once again
[08:25] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk you would need the standard linux one, either 32bit or 64 if you have 64bit linux
[08:26] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk the file you download you just right click set to run as program check mark, and then issue a command like sudo sh truecrypt-7.0a.tar.gz or whatever the file name ends up being
[08:26] <Gorlak> once you have downloaded the file from their website
[08:26] <clakes> blah... i've downloaded the 2.6.38-10 kernel... had to update menu.lst to get it shown in grub... then it just loads into tty
[08:26] <Gorlak> chickadee-afk there is also a truecrypt channel you can join too if you have any questions too
[08:27] <WarOp> Does Ubuntu 10.10 use gnome 3 just curious
[08:27] <WarOp> or is it only 11.04
[08:27] <IdleOne> neither
[08:28] <ZykoticK9> WarOp, 11.04 doesn't use Gnome3 either -- Fedora 15 does...
[08:28] <WarOp> Alright, so is it still gnome 2.24
[08:28] <BiggFREE> ZykoticK9 ... Is kernel <IP_ADDRESS> stable ?
[08:29] <strangr> u can get gnome3 from synaptic
[08:29] <ZykoticK9> BiggFREE, no idea?
[08:29] <ZykoticK9> strangr, NOT recommended - breaks unity for starters
[08:29] <BiggFREE> Thanks
[08:30] <red> gorlak: http://askubuntu.com/questions/35949/unity-sidebar-gone-black
[08:30] <red> found it
[08:30] <strangr> ZykoticK9, oh right
[08:30] <Gorlak> red heh feels good when you find it. i think it took me a year to find a solution to something i was looking for and one day i just did a random google for it and found it.
[08:31] <Gorlak> red did the reset work
[08:31] <Gorlak> ?
[08:31] <red> I was too fast to be happy :P
[08:31] <red> Saw it had been accepted and thought it must work
[08:31] <red> Ill go read about the bug, maybe there are some tricks there
[08:32] <Gorlak> red lol good luck with it, with that as a base maybe you could find out more information about it and how you can work around it
[08:32] <chickadee-afk> :D !
[08:32] <chickadee-afk> @Gorlak: REALLY?! :D
[08:32] <chickadee-afk> is it here on Freenode?
[08:33] <Guest23562> Does anyone want to exchange VPN?
[08:33] <Gorlak> yes, just join truecrypt
[08:33] <chickadee-afk> YAY!  \o/
[08:33] <chickadee-afk> TYSM, GUY!!
[08:33]  * chickadee-afk *does really happy dance*
[08:33] <Gorlak> lol
[08:34] <chickadee-afk> :3
[08:34] <Guest23562> Does anyone want to exchange VPN? pv me
[08:34] <ikonia> Guest23562: please don't ask for that
[08:35] <chickadee-afk> yeah dude, it's inappropriate. :p
[08:35] <Guest23562> ikonia> why?
[08:35] <chickadee-afk> same as stumbling in here and asking asl
[08:35] <chickadee-afk> :p
[08:35] <Cpt_Zyph> so may i ask .. what are some of the strong points about the recent new version of ubuntu???
[08:35] <ikonia> Guest23562: people don't want to give you vpn access
[08:35] <chickadee-afk> it's creepy, guy.
[08:36] <chickadee-afk> if you want to get your perv on, join a pervy channel elsewhere.
[08:36] <chickadee-afk> not here. :p
[08:36] <ikonia> chickadee-afk: stop it - there is no need for that
[08:36] <WarOp> Just curious, Looking into going to "Ubuntu 10.10", I found one called Ubuntu Studio 10.10 is it exactly the same as Ubuntu 10.10 with the exception of Preloaded Audio & Video software
[08:36] <Guest23562> wow creepy?
[08:36] <ikonia> Cpt_Zyph: have a look on ubuntu.com it introduces thew new version quite well
[08:37] <Guest23562> ok,take it easy
[08:37] <ikonia> Guest23562: lets move on please
[08:37] <WarOp> Use to use fedora and upgraded to fedora 15 and cant really stand gnome 3
[08:37] <ikonia> WarOp: how is that anything to do with ubuntu ?
[08:37] <WarOp> my previous comment
[08:37] <ikonia> WarOp: it has no relevence
[08:38] <WarOp> is ubuntu 10.10 the same operating system as ubuntu studio 10.10 with the exception of the audio & video software preloaded
[08:38] <ikonia> WarOp: exactly the same, with a few kernel patches for things like real time clock
[08:39] <WarOp> Alrighty Thank You :)
[08:39] <ZykoticK9> ikonia, is ubuntu studio an official derivative?
[08:39] <nopf> hey people, so why does resume from hibernate (s2disk tried, but the normal method via button didn't work either iirc, maybe failed som other way) not work? dm-0 seems not to be there (something about 'give full path to ...') ... this is with encrypted home, hence encrypted swap on 11.04
[08:39] <ikonia> ZykoticK9: it used to be, I'm not sure anyone, I think so
[08:39] <poobird> does anyone think they could help me, im having hard time getting pptpd to work
[08:40] <ZykoticK9> ikonia, :) well thanks for clearing that up
[08:40] <Fudge> hi what would a 2mb bios_grub partition actually be, thought we installed grub to mbr, macbook with nataty
[08:41] <ikonia> Fudge: that's not created by ubuntu by default
[08:41] <ikonia> Fudge: the only reason you'd do that is because of gid partition tables
[08:41] <ikonia> Fudge: mac's use non MS dos partition tables, so don't use an mbr in the same way
[08:44] <Cpt_Zyph> well maybe i should ask.. is the new version of ubuntu more stable.. is there something about this new version on the back end thats nice.. i just read about some of the gnome gui things and the launcher thats about it
[08:47] <Guest99895> I've heard some bad things about 11.04
[08:52] <mykal> Guest99895, like???
[08:52] <nopf> oki. seems i have to run without using swap. not nice, but unavoidable atm... :/
[08:52] <crass`> xu 11.04 has been pretty good to me so far.
[08:53] <Guest99895> well I haven't tried it, just going by what I've heard
[08:53] <crass`> What have you heard?
[08:53] <Guest99895> just that it has a lot of bugs and unity isn't very good
[08:53] <tlhonmey> nopf: There's a program in the repository called swapd that will create swapfiles on the fly when needed.
[08:54] <Fudge> ikonia  its strictly an ubuntu machine so can safely remove that and install grub to sda?
[08:54] <ikonia> Fudge: no, not if you're still using EFI
[09:00] <nopf> tlhonmey: hm, yes, thanks for that hint. since i found only much swap keeps firefox from crashing
[09:01] <Fudge> whats EFI, we had lucid on ther eno worries, natty went on with no po=roblems but after killing lucid which must have been controlling grub its not coming to the party now
[09:01] <tlhonmey> nopf: No problem.  I use it quite a bit on thumb-drive installs where you don't really want to use swap unless absolutely necessary.
[09:03] <shentino> How do I move gdm to another terminal?  I stuck that FirstVT=12 thingy in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf but it refused to obey
[09:04] <abcdefgha> hi
[09:04] <kamel> how can i mark a bug in launchpad to affect a specific release of ubuntu
[09:04] <kamel> ?
[09:04] <Fudge> think its xorg that woudl control that
[09:07] <osmosis_paul> Good morning
[09:07] <osmosis_paul> somebody here use "arno firewall?"
[09:07] <tlhonmey> kamel: So far as I know there's a selector box there somewhere.  At least, there was the last time I reported a bug.
[09:07] <RevSpecies116> Ubuntu 10.04LTS, osmosis_paul ?
[09:11] <deployment> I'm new to ubuntu SMTP services. I would like to install a simple SMTP service (GUI controls would be nice)
[09:12] <osmosis_paul> RevSpecies116, what that's mean?, i just wanna know if someone know how to limit the ip access in this firewall
[09:12] <tlhonmey> deployment: Have you read: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=230351 ?
[09:12] <osmosis_paul> somebody know how to limit the ip access with arno firewall????
[09:13] <deployment> tlhonmey
[09:13] <deployment> tlhonmey: nope, not yet ;)
[09:14] <tlhonmey> deployment: hmmm  it's not as useful as I thought it would be...  I know there was a howto around here somewhere.
[09:15] <tlhonmey> deployment: http://pccicla.blogspot.com/2007/02/ubuntu-smtp-server.html  No gui tools, but they're not really necessary for a simple smtp server.
[09:15] <rcmind> Good morning everyone
[09:15] <shomon> hi, how do I stop a service from starting up at, um, startup?
[09:16] <AdvoWork> i have an old server running 6.06lts, i know the distribution is outdated, and it will be replaced, but in the mean time, how would I go about updating my mysql version (server version: 5.0.22-Debian_0ubuntu6.06.15-log) to the latest?
[09:16] <shomon> so as not to have to do /etc/init.d/postgres stop each time I turn on the computer...
[09:16] <nopf> fine. now the system is totally borked
[09:18] <tlhonmey> shomon: Make the startup script in /etc/init.d non-executable.
[09:18] <shomon> aah thanks
[09:19] <tlhonmey> AdvoWork: You might or might not be able to without recompiling a *lot* of supporting libraries.  But, theoretically you grab the latest packages from mysql and install them.
[09:19] <nikhil_>  hi. i'm using firefox 4.0.1 on ubuntu natty 11.04 x64 with the rein theme (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/rein/). This is an awesome theme i would love to use, but the right click contextual menu text is the same colour as the menu (i.e. invisible) and only appears when i mouse-over. Anyone know how to fix this?
[09:19] <nikhil_> anyone do any minor firefox (config) hacks? i'm looking to change the colour of the text in a contextual menu in a custom theme...
[09:20] <AdvoWork> tlhonmey, why would i have to recompile a lot of things?
[09:20] <mkquist> so does the 11.04 live cd have more problems?
[09:20] <shomon> tlhonmey, do you mean group, user or owner executable? is chmod x-og enough?
[09:20] <mkquist> like does it not boot to a desktop?
[09:20] <chenhuaiyu> how beatiful
[09:21] <chenhuaiyu> i am chinese
[09:21] <tlhonmey> shomon: take the execute bit away from everyone and it's guaranteed to work.
[09:21] <shomon> okay will do
[09:21] <AdvoWork> and tlhonmey will this be the same for php also?
[09:21] <RevSpecies116> mkquist: Only what is listed on the following site: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes
[09:22] <tlhonmey> AdvoWork: because the newest mysql probably requires later versions of at least some libraries than you have available for 6.06.  So you'll have to upgrade the libraries to upgrade mysql.
[09:22] <mkquist> RevSpecies116: ty, ill check it out.. not booting to desktop on my laptop...
[09:22] <llutz> shomon: to enable/disable services, use "sysv-rc-conf" (needs to be installed)
[09:22] <tlhonmey> AdvoWork: and the versions you need are probably not available pre-compiled.
[09:22] <ghsh> nikhil_: should be easy
[09:22] <tlhonmey> AdvoWork: And yes, it'll probably be the same way with php.
[09:22] <nikhil_> ghsh, direction?
[09:23] <ghsh> nikhil_: let me install it
[09:23] <shomon> thanks llutz I used to use some command line thing in older distros
[09:23] <tlhonmey> AdvoWork: In my experience you'll be seriously time-ahead to start with upgrading the OS.
[09:23] <nikhil_> kk
[09:23] <nikhil_> ghsh, kk
[09:23] <llutz> shomon: theres update-rc.d too, but thats not recommended for it
[09:25] <ghsh> nikhil_: works for me
[09:25] <nikhil_> ghsh, firefox version, ubuntu version?
[09:26] <shomon> ok thanks llutz and tlhonmey for your help
[09:26] <m3asmi> can I use the UbuntuOne from mandriva ?
[09:26] <ghsh> nikhil_: 4.0.1 and 11.04
[09:26] <nikhil_> ghsh, 64bit?
[09:27] <nikhil_> sigh. its just a little colour problem :/
[09:27] <ghsh> nikhil_: on a reboot not this one at time -- other kernel
[09:28] <nikhil_> ghsh, found something that will probably help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=503508
[09:28] <osmosis_paul> Please somebody are using arno as firewall in Debian?
[09:29] <nalex> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. I'm googling since some days for this problem, though I haven't found any working solution. How can I disable the possibility to shutdown the system by using the offswitch in the panel?
[09:29] <mkquist> so thoughts on 'unity'?
[09:29] <mkquist> like, dont?
[09:29] <th^^> unity <3
[09:30] <mkquist> th^^: really?
[09:30] <th^^> really
[09:30] <mkquist> th^^: advantages?
[09:30] <th^^> just disable panel autohiding, set icon size to 32, perfect :)
[09:30] <mkquist> th^^: just asking? on a desktop machine...
[09:30] <tlhonmey> nalex:  Depends on your hardware.  It's probably a setting in the bios.
[09:30] <th^^> mkquist: i just find it stress free and mostly stays out of the way, apps in panel and quick search for apps, i kinda don't need/want anything more
[09:31] <th^^> simple
[09:31] <mkquist> th^^: ill have to keep an open mind... off the cuff, not sure any advantages are there... oh well, can always go back. =)
[09:31] <th^^> after using it for couple months it would be hard to go back to old desktop tbh
[09:32] <nalex> tlhonmey, I rather would like to make that button disappearing or invalid instead of going through the bios
[09:32] <tlhonmey> nalex:  Oh..  I thought you meant the physical switch on the machine's front panel.
[09:33] <nalex> nonono
[09:33] <tlhonmey> nalex: You should be able to simply remove the offending button from the panel.
[09:33] <llutz> osmosis_paul: why don't you ask in #debian?
[09:33] <roniez> Hey all got a question, when i do source /etc/nanorc it gives me BASH include unknown command, i have searched and googled and chcked forums, but i cannot find a solution, i bet its going to be something really stupid.
[09:33] <nalex> tlhonmey, the mashine is used by more than one user
[09:33] <tlhonmey> nalex:  And there is a gconf key that will lock the panel so nobody else can use it.
[09:34] <tlhonmey> nalex:  err... lock the panel so you can't add the button back.
[09:34] <llutz> roniez: why would you source nanorc into bash?
[09:34] <roniez> well
[09:34] <llutz> roniez: its a nano-config file, nothing for the shell
[09:34] <tlhonmey> nalex:  Not sure it's worth the bother, it already takes root privileges to shut down the system when other people are logged in.
[09:34] <roniez> hm ok
[09:35] <nalex> tlhonmey, every user has it's own home folder. Due that I cannot remove it just by one click
[09:35] <roniez> Ok thats what i get.
[09:35] <roniez>  as i said it must be something stupid.
[09:35] <roniez> its already working doh..
[09:35] <kamel> tlhonmey: i also used that selector box but it seems to be gone since half a year or so
[09:35] <nalex> tlhonmey, yes but sometimes nobody else is logged in. So it works pretty well for anyone
[09:35] <kamel> or it was moved
[09:36] <tlhonmey> nalex, you should be able to edit the default configuration for all users.  Unfortunately I don't know how off the top of my head.  Last I knew the directory it was in was called skel, but there have been changes since then.
[09:37] <tlhonmey> nalex: If nobody else is logged in, then why worry about them shutting down the machine?
[09:37] <vimix> what is ubuntu using as std logging service?
[09:38] <tlhonmey> nalex:  If it's a terminal server, then remote clients can't shut it down anyway...
[09:38] <llutz> vimix: rsyslogd
[09:38] <nalex> tlhonmey, because this single computer is actually 24 mashines. And they shall be avaiable 24 hours a day per ssh
[09:38] <nalex> no it's not tlhonmey
[09:38] <nalex> They can be used locally and per ssh
[09:39] <tlhonmey> nalex: I see...  They didn't used to be able to...  Guess I need to play with the terminal server again...
[09:40] <nalex> tlhonmey, the problem is not the remote clients. The problem is that that if they are used local , then they got the possibility to shut them down
[09:40] <_Rix> hello
[09:40] <_Rix> how do i remove fedora completely from my dual-boot
[09:40] <vimix> llutz: does logger(1) exist in ubuntu? (i've no (ubuntu)linux box here to test it)
[09:40] <_Rix> i am dual-booting ubuntu and fedora
[09:41] <llutz> !info logger
[09:41] <tlhonmey> nalex:  If you're concerned about that, you should probably lock up the server and replace that station with a remote client.
[09:41] <_Rix> hello ""
[09:41] <llutz> vimix: bsdutils   brings logger
[09:41] <tlhonmey> nalex:  Because you can disable the UI all you want, alt-sysrq-b will still reset the machine.
[09:42] <tlhonmey> nalex:  If you can type it on the console that is.
[09:43] <rileyp> how do i add repos to my diskless servers image
[09:43] <nalex> tlhonmey, yes but if somebody uses such methods he knows exactly that he should not shutdown the computer. If somebody presses shutdown instead logout though, it's a different thing.
[09:43] <thepentester> rileyp, cant
[09:43] <tlhonmey> nalex:  There's also a power switch and the threat of spilled coffee.
[09:44] <rileyp> the pentester what do you mean
[09:44] <nalex> tlhonmey, and I really don't want to discuss about the sense of such an action. All I'm asking for is a possibility to forbid the shutdown with the gnome interface
[09:44] <nalex> tlhonmey, I can control that with the acpi events
[09:44] <nalex> that's not the problem
[09:44] <tlhonmey> nalex:  and I'm thinking.  :)  I'm just making sure that's what you really need while I'm at it.
[09:44] <rileyp> Id like to add some repos to my diskless image how can I do that
[09:45] <rileyp> so it affects all clients
[09:45] <tlhonmey> nalex:  you could disable gdm on the console and have them log in in text mode and start X manually.  If it's done that way, they can't order a shutdown, only a logout...
[09:45] <nalex> tlhonmey, I really need it. I can only start those mashines local. And I don't want do go to uni during the weekend because somebody shut them down Friday everying
[09:45] <nalex> hmmm
[09:46] <rileyp> I know how to add packages and rebuild the image hjust want to add some gpgs and keyrings
[09:46] <tlhonmey> nalex:  which means, that the setting you're lookng for is probably somewhere in the gdm config.
[09:46] <nalex> not userfriendly enough tlhonmey . Don't want to tell some hundret people how to start X
[09:46] <nalex> I think in LTS it's called custom.conf
[09:47] <nalex> and I tried already "SecureShutdown" "AllowShutdown=false" and such stuff. All without effect
[09:47] <rileyp> custom.conf for me???
[09:47] <nalex> no rileyp
[09:47] <rileyp> ok
[09:47] <djazz> I can't get bluetooth working "out of the box" (applies to ubuntu and linuxmint) http://i.imgur.com/yeY0z.jpg :/ pls help
[09:47] <brian_11_04> Hi, I am currently installing ubuntu 11.04 desktop using my integrated video card (no problems).  After this is done I want to install my nvidia GT 240 video card.  I found a page with instructions on how to install the drivers for this particular video card (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1771806&highlight=nvidia+gt+240) and I'm wondering if this is just a matter of installing the new drivers with those instructions, th
[09:47] <acidflash__> tar -czf - /some/file | ssh host.name tar -xzf - -C /destination <-- would that be a good way to move 300,000+ files over lan?
[09:47] <vimix> llutz: hmm... i won't be able to install it on that image. (btw logger exists on debian, doesn't it?) so what is the std way writing to the system log files in ubuntu?
[09:47] <tlhonmey> nalex:  At one point there was a permissions editor that let you set what credentials were required for performing certain actions.
[09:48] <tlhonmey> nalex:  It seems to have disappeared from the menu...
[09:48] <nalex> pessulus?
[09:48] <llutz> vimix: package "bsdutils"  contains logger
[09:48] <llutz> !info bsdutils
[09:48] <llutz> vimix: it should be installed by default
[09:49] <vimix> llutz: ah, ok. thought that its not installed by default
[09:49] <llutz> !find /usr/bin/logger
[09:49] <tlhonmey> nalex:  I'm afraid your simplest solution is probably to log in an additional user on one of the ttys.  That should prevent them from shutting it down.
[09:50] <nalex> tlhonmey, actually I am at that point since a while. I just find it very very nasty as a solution
[09:50] <RenaKunisaki> how can I adjust the amount the volume is changed by using the volume control keys in Xfce?
[09:50] <chomping> guys, for apt-get, is there a way to see the contents of the package that I wanted to install?
[09:52] <tlhonmey> nalex:  I agree.  Unfortunately, as I'm sitting here, every tool I remember having an option to disable console shutdown is no longer available...
[09:52] <kv102t> anyone use postfix
[09:52] <tlhonmey> nalex:  Have you tried disabling execute on /sbin/shutdown?
[09:52] <llutz> chomping: dpkg -L <packagename>        after its being installed, else "apt-file list package "
[09:53] <llutz> !anyone | kv102t
[09:53] <chomping> llutz: thanks, let me try it.
[09:53] <nalex> tlhonmey, yes, absolutley no difference
[09:53] <tlhonmey> nalex:  I was afraid of that...  I wonder how gdm triggers it then...
[09:53] <nalex> tlhonmey, I guess it's not using that way to shut the computer down.
[09:53] <nalex> Some kind of mysterious xml I think
[09:54] <djazz> anyone here using bluetooth? :P
[09:54] <RenaKunisaki> anyone here using Linux?
[09:54]  * RenaKunisaki ducks
[09:54] <nmesis> @@
[09:54] <djazz> who can help me
[09:55] <nalex> djazz, ask your question. You won't recieve any answer for meta questions I fear
[09:55] <tlhonmey> nalex:  http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/03/20/disable-shutdown-for-normal-users/
[09:55] <djazz> "I can't get bluetooth working "out of the box" (applies to ubuntu and linuxmint) http://i.imgur.com/yeY0z.jpg :/ pls help"
[09:55] <nalex> tlhonmey, already checked
[09:55] <djazz> i already asked
[09:55] <shomon> after you've done an apt-get upgrade or used the update software, is it possible to get the list of what was changed in the packages you installed/updated?
[09:56] <djazz> it works if i runs some commands in terminal
[09:56] <nalex> djazz, sorry, saw it too late ;)
[09:56] <llutz> shomon: aptitude changelog <packagename>
[09:56] <tlhonmey> nalex:  The hole seems to be what have they done with the configuration editor...
[09:56] <nalex> tlhonmey, even after this thing. The computer was totally open. Physical shutdown....ctrl-alt-del   everything was still working
[09:57] <shomon> thanks llutz
[09:57] <Barefoot-Ubuntui> where is the best place to start out if you want to contribute to ubuntu?
[09:57] <llutz> !contribute | Barefoot-Ubuntui
[09:57] <tlhonmey> nalex:  ...
[09:57] <Barefoot-Ubuntui> thanks lluz
[09:57] <kv102t> i'm trying to use postfix but i'm getting access denied
[09:58] <tlhonmey> nalex:  I really don't know what to suggest then.  There must be something about the terminal server part that changes the way it does things.
[09:58] <mok0> Just started using Unity... I miss the "Preferences" and "System" menus from Gnome... can I find them somewhere?
[09:58] <nalex> tlhonmey, yeah...I guess I will just stay with the "everywhere logged in" thing
[09:59] <tlhonmey> nalex:  I'll add it to my list of things to play with when I have some spare time.
[09:59] <nalex> tlhonmey, thanks a lot, though
[09:59] <tlhonmey> nalex:  You're welcome.  Sorry I couldn't be more help.
[09:59] <nalex> it's ok..you're not the first one trying to help me with that ^^
[09:59] <djazz> the usb-creator don't work with linuxmint's iso :/
[10:04] <Bryan792> hi im having a problem where 4 cards will show up on windows but only 1 shows up on ubuntu, 3 cards are using x1 slots, can anyone help?
[10:04] <Bryan792> gpu cards that is
[10:05] <chexov> o_O
[10:06] <compdoc> you have 4 video cards?
[10:06] <sbarcteam> hi guys.
[10:06] <Bakerconspiracy> I would like 4 video cars
[10:06] <Bakerconspiracy> bards
[10:06] <Bakerconspiracy> but I only have 2
[10:06] <sbarcteam> is there a "hardware compatibility list" for ubuntu, so I can look and see for any possible pitfalls in installing ubuntu over specific hardware ?
[10:06] <jason2> hello
[10:07] <Bakerconspiracy> why not just use the live cd sbarcteam
[10:07] <milamber> nalex: have you tried to run gconf-editor and look at the indicator-session options?
[10:08] <iceroot> !hardware | sbarcteam
[10:09] <c2tarun> can anyone please help me with this error? http://paste.kde.org/79525/
[10:09] <_Rix> in need of serious help
[10:09] <_Rix> removed fedora booting into ubuntu
[10:09] <_Rix> but I face thw fun menu
[10:09] <_Rix> the grub
[10:09] <_Rix> and I have no idea
[10:09] <_Rix> how to enter ubuntu
[10:09] <iceroot> c2tarun: you can remove the packase-list in /var/lib/apt/lists  and rerun sudo apt-get update
[10:10] <brian_11_04> isn't ctrl+alt+backspace supposed to force close X ?
[10:10] <iceroot> !dontzap | brian_11_04
[10:10] <nephro> Nice lag I just had... I woke my pc from suspend and was able to stick around in gnome before the screen froze and I had to enter the password
[10:10] <nephro> nice
[10:10] <compdoc> _Rix, you were dual booting fedora and ubuntu?
[10:10] <c2tarun> iceroot, that lists folder contains lots of files? should I delete them all?
[10:10] <_Rix> compdoc yes
[10:10] <brian_11_04> how do I close X so only the terminals are running?
[10:11] <iceroot> c2tarun: you can move them first to another dir instead of delete them
[10:11] <iceroot> brian_11_04: sudo service gdm stop
[10:11] <chickadee-afk> w00!! Gorlak, ftw!!
[10:11] <jason2> I'm trying to manage indicators applets but i can't... I want to hide or show and change order in applets. Is there any entry in dconf-editor or gconf-editor?
[10:11] <chickadee-afk> \o/
[10:12] <_Rix> compdoc any ideas
[10:12] <faLUCE>  hi. how can I know which filesystem has /dev/sda1 ?
[10:12] <dnivra> faLUCE, try "blkid" command. it lists for all though.
[10:12] <nalex> milamber, yes but it works only for the current user I think
[10:12] <compdoc> _Rix, you said you see a grub menu now? Im no expert on dual booting
[10:12] <icomera> hi, I want to run cdisk via ssh, for example ssh root@host 'cfdisk /dev/sdb', but I got TERM environment variable needs set. Can anyone help me?
[10:13] <_Rix> I'm reading docs atm
[10:13] <sbarcteam>  iceroot thanks. reading.
[10:13] <dnivra> faLUCE, and I think you meant what is the filesystem OF /dev/sda1. right?
[10:13] <vimix> does jot(1) exist on ubuntu? or is there only seq?
[10:14] <user82> is there a (gui) way to epand one wallpaper over all 4 virtual desktops? (so every one gets a quarter/corner of it)?
[10:14] <faLUCE> dnivra: yes
[10:14] <faLUCE> dnivra: I need to know if it's ext3 or ext4
[10:15] <llutz> faLUCE: sudo blkid
[10:15] <dnivra> faLUCE, yeah. blkid as root. like i said :).
[10:15] <kirean> hi, I tried googling but I cannot find the correct terms so I'll try here.
[10:15] <kirean> How do I disable auto expanding/maximizing of windows when f.ex. moving a window to top of the screen?
[10:15] <faLUCE> better choice was mount
[10:15] <faLUCE> thanks anyway
[10:15] <llutz> faLUCE: mount only shows mounted fs
[10:16] <FusionX> I'm looking for Ubuntu Alternatives, i.e. the distros which are the most familiar with Ubuntu.
[10:16] <kirean> or when a window is moved to left or right side of the screen it auto resizes to half of the screen
[10:16] <nalex> milamber, you know a way to do the gconf-editor settings for every user?
[10:17] <_Rix> help I'm totally lost
[10:17] <rob> #aviation
[10:17] <brian_11_04> I just updated my nvidia drivers using sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current  ... however its still showing the old drivers are installed in "NVDIA X Server Settings"  any ideas?
[10:17] <_Rix> I need to boot into ubunti from the grub menu
[10:17] <HerrBlume> Hi, the LD_PRELOAD environment variable isn't working, i get the error ERROR: ld.so: object './lib.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[10:18] <FusionX> I'm looking for Ubuntu Alternatives, i.e. the distros which are the most familiar with Ubuntu.
[10:18] <HerrBlume> FusionX: Debian
[10:18] <RenaKunisaki> FusionX, Xubuntu, Kubuntu?
[10:19] <RenaKunisaki> those are still Ubuntu but with different programs
[10:19] <FusionX> No, not their variations but entirely different distros
[10:19] <RenaKunisaki> yeah try Debian then
[10:20] <FusionX> HerrBlume: Is Debian user-friendly for people new to linux (not that new)..
[10:20] <_Rix> I need to boot into ubuntu from the grub menu
[10:20] <HerrBlume> FusionX: not as pollished as Ubuntu, but very consistent
[10:20] <HerrBlume> FusionX: e.g. you have to install your properitary drivers by yourself
[10:21] <sipior> HerrBlume: what are the contents of LD_PRELOAD?
[10:21] <milamber> nalex: http://projects.gnome.org/gconf// seems like you just have to set the .mandatory option
[10:21] <FusionX> Hmm..I can do that.
[10:21] <icomera> hi, anyone?
[10:21] <HerrBlume> sipior: Thanks for the help
[10:21] <iceroot> FusionX: why you need another distri?
[10:21] <_Rix> grub prompt
[10:21] <HerrBlume> sipior: I just preloaded a 64Bit lib for a 32 Bit application
[10:21] <FusionX> iceroot: I just want to use something else other than Ubuntu, other reason is that it runs super slow on my crapware
[10:21] <sipior> HerrBlume: ah.
[10:22] <FusionX> Well, I guess I should go for debian then..Thanks a lot for the suggestion guys
[10:22] <FusionX> :)
[10:22] <HerrBlume> np
[10:22] <RenaKunisaki> I'd recommend Xubuntu, but apparently it's actually bigger than Ubuntu now
[10:22] <RenaKunisaki> though it does still run nicely on my 8-year-old machine
[10:22] <milamber> FusionX: while not an official derivative, lubuntu is designed for that
[10:22] <HerrBlume> apt-cache search build-essential
[10:23] <HerrBlume> oops....
[10:23] <RenaKunisaki> ENOTTY
[10:23] <sipior> RenaKunisaki: :-)
[10:23] <cyberjorge> what's a good linux media server? Aside from ubuntu and amahi?
[10:23] <FusionX> RenaKunisaki: The newest version of Xubuntu i.e. 11.04 gives me the same GUI bloat as Ubuntu, which makes it run slow.
[10:24] <compdoc> what kind of media server?
[10:24] <RenaKunisaki> you might do well just disabling Compiz
[10:24] <HerrBlume> FusionX: you can install an minimalist ubuntu without X
[10:25] <HerrBlume> FusionX: Just don't select 'Desktop computer' in the installation
[10:26] <FusionX> Guys, Which one of the two should I choose, CD/DVD? I don't want to install much from the internet (60 KBps bandwidth).
[10:26] <FusionX> while installing
[10:27] <ionwind> hi
[10:27] <kv102t> I would like to setup a simple SMTP service to collect alerts and email them on.
[10:27] <ionwind> i try to reinstall grub
[10:27] <ionwind>  minimal BASH-like line editing is suported. For the the fisrt word, tab LISTS possible command comletions. any where else tab lists possible device or file completicions
[10:27] <compdoc> hard to say what its doing, but it always seems to d/l stuff from online while installing - even when you tell it not to
[10:27] <ionwind> that is the message in the screen .... what i do from here??
[10:28] <_Rix> heelloo ??
[10:28] <FusionX> Guys, Which one of the two should I choose, CD/DVD (Debian)? I don't want to install much from the internet (60 KBps bandwidth) while installing. If CD serves as a basic installation without much bloatedness, that would be fine.
[10:29] <_Rix> I see "grub>" on black screen
[10:29] <_Rix> how do I enter ubuntu plz
[10:29] <arand> ionwind: So it has stopped at initramfs, i you o anything in particular leaing up to it?
[10:29] <arand> !grub2 | _Rix
[10:29] <arand> _Rix: Follow above guie to reinstall grub from liveCD
[10:30] <cyberjorge> compdoc: something like Amahi where it's pre setup to stream video etc.
[10:30] <gartral> dd is giving me nothing but BUTT, i have an image that's roughly 3 gb, and trying too dd it too a drive that i know has 4 gigs even, and DD is reporting that it's running out of room >.<
[10:30] <brian_11_04> I just updated my nvidia drivers using sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current  ... however its still showing the old drivers are installed in "NVDIA X Server Settings"  any ideas?
[10:30] <compdoc> cyberjorge, I guess mythbuntu wouldnt work? I use that
[10:30] <compdoc> anyway, I gtg
[10:31] <cyberjorge> HerrBlume: but the problem is I have to install all media softwares one by one unlike media servers like Amahi
[10:31] <gartral> nvm
[10:31] <cyberjorge> compdoc alright I'll check that
[10:34] <nalex> milamber, thanks. WIll check how to do that :-)
[10:34] <nalex> Ah, got it already
[10:35] <eichi> http://www.arlt.com/Hardware/Multimedia/Soundkarten/? can someone tell me one soundcard, which woks good and ootb in ubuntu?
[10:36] <HerrBlume> eichi: I didn't have any problem with any consumer soundcard in linux for the last 12 years.
[10:37] <adrian15> Hi. I am trying to setup a nginx server on Ubuntu 8.04 so that it makes a https proxy for a tomcat server. I have tried all the howtos and it does work with ssl engine off (with http). It does not work with https. How am I supposed to debug it?
[10:37] <lmanneh> laminmanneh
[10:37] <lmanneh> hi
[10:37] <iceroot> adrian15: you have a https-cert?
[10:37] <iceroot> adrian15: ssl-cert
[10:39] <eichi> HerrBlume: sounds good ;) and you have fav products? need it for ubuntustudio musik producing. shoulnd be the worst but not professional
[10:40] <adrian15> iceroot: Yes, I have it.
[10:41] <iceroot> adrian15: logs (in debug) doesnt tell anything usefull?
[10:41] <adrian15> iceroot: No. The problem is that server never answers.
[10:42] <iceroot> adrian15: https port is open?
[10:42] <iceroot> adrian15: from outside
[10:42] <adrian15> iceroot: Yes, it is open from outside because I formerly had a tomcat server there and I have turned it off.
[10:45] <adrian15> iceroot: If you want to take a look at configuration file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/620728/
[10:45] <vanquish349> i installed conky for a theme thing and i cant find my .conky file
[10:45] <vanquish349> or my .font file
[10:46] <vanquish349> anyone
[10:46] <iceroot> adrian15: hm
[10:47] <iceroot> adrian15: i think a debug-level would be a good idea to see where it fails
[10:47] <faLUCE> another question: the shell autocompletion seems damaged. It only works for directories completion... what can I do?
[10:47] <iceroot> adrian15: the start is ok?
[10:47] <slooksterpsv> what program or that is ran when I press like a volume softkey on my keyboard in Ubuntu? - it raises the volume and shows the notification that the volume's changed, but what program is that?
[10:47] <adrian15> iceroot: Yes. Running /etc/init.d/nginx start      does not complain at all.
[10:47] <slooksterpsv> guess I should specify need more specific than like notify-send
[10:47] <adrian15> iceroot: How one is supposed to enable debug-level on nginx ?
[10:48] <iceroot> adrian15: nginx --help
[10:48] <iceroot> adrian15: there should be something like "-d"
[10:48] <vanquish349> i installed conky for a theme thing and i cant find my .conky file
[10:48] <vanquish349> or my .font file
[10:49] <adrian15> iceroot: nginx --help outputs: invalid option: "--help"
[10:50] <iceroot> adrian15: when using /etc/init.d/nginx start  is ps aux | grep nginx showing it?
[10:50] <_Rix> hello
[10:50] <_Rix> so i managed to boot into ubuntu from grub prompt
[10:50] <_Rix> how do i set boot into ubuntu by default
[10:51] <adrian15> iceroot: Yes, it is showing it on ps aux.
[10:51] <adrian15> iceroot: If I remove ssl on; line I can access it on 8443 port but with http not https.
[10:53] <ionwind> how can i get root accese in my lifecd session??
[10:53] <slooksterpsv> ionwind: just type in su or sudo su at the terminal
[10:53] <vanquish349> i installed conky for a theme thing and i cant find my .conky file
[10:53] <ionwind> it say no
[10:53] <adrian15> iceroot: The only I have not done is to generate a crt file that concatenates domain crt + intermediate certificate + root certificate.
[10:53] <vanquish349> i have looked everywhere
[10:53] <_Rix> how do i boot into ubuntu by default
[10:53] <iceroot> adrian15: the question is, is nginx blocking the ssl request or tomcat
[10:53] <_Rix> help plz?
[10:54] <RenaKunisaki> ionwind, what exactly does it say?
[10:54] <ionwind> is i life session i have to copy the files before i formatin
[10:54] <vanquish349> why cant anyone help me
[10:54] <adrian15> iceroot: But I suppose that I would get a certificate error on web browser and that's all (Although I am not sure).
[10:54] <RenaKunisaki> ionwind, try "sudo -i"
[10:54] <slooksterpsv> it should be .conkyrc vanquish349 in your home folder it's hidden
[10:55] <RenaKunisaki> _Rix, you might want to look up how to configure GRUB
[10:55] <gartral> _Rix: that should be default
[10:55] <_Rix> will sudo update-grub work
[10:55] <adrian15> iceroot: I suppose it is nginx because if I disable ssl on as I have told you it works ok.
[10:55] <gartral> _Rix: should, yes
[10:55] <_Rix> alright i'll try that
[10:56] <ionwind> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu#
[10:56] <ionwind> but i can not get in the dev/sda5
[10:56] <ionwind> to safe my files in the deskcop
[10:56] <thegoodcushion> If I'm running more than one process, about how often does Ubuntu switch from one process to another?
[10:56] <iceroot> adrian15: but nginx is just forwarding to tomcat, correct?
[10:56] <ionwind> the problem is when i update 10.04 to 11.04 the grub coorup
[10:56] <adrian15> iceroot: It is what I want it to do (with https).
[10:57] <brian_11_04> does ubuntu server come preinstalled with Xfree ?
[10:57] <adrian15> iceroot: Well, not forwarding but proxying
[10:57] <vanquish349> this is bullshit
[10:57] <iceroot> and when tomcat is locking the ssl request you cant see on client site if it is nginx or tomcat
[10:57] <vanquish349> why cant anyone help me
[10:57] <vanquish349> i installed conky for a theme thing and i cant find my .conky file
[10:57] <RenaKunisaki> ~/.conkyrc
[10:57] <iceroot> vanquish349: create it
[10:57] <vanquish349> i have used ctrl+h but it isnt there
[10:57] <Sidewinder1> !update > ionwind
[10:58] <dorst> hello everyone
[10:58] <adrian15> iceroot: I do not see anything in my browser it just keeps loading and loading. I am going to use wget just in case it gaves more information.
[10:58] <vanquish349> iceroot: ok i will try
[10:58] <dorst> How do I solve the problem with ¨Nvidia Driver activated but not in use¨
[10:59] <dorst> I searched all the internet for a good explanation but no chance
[10:59] <slooksterpsv> dorst: after you installed the driver did you reboot?
[10:59] <dorst> yes slooksterpsv
[10:59] <dorst> I find in some place my video card is blacklisted
[11:00] <dorst> I talk about ubuntu 11.04
[11:00] <adrian15> iceroot: What the hell! It does work?! How long one is supposed to wait till nginx actually works?!
[11:00] <adrian15> iceroot: Thank you for your help.
[11:00] <iceroot> adrian15: i guess it should work directly
[11:01] <iceroot> adrian15: but fine its working now :)
[11:01] <slooksterpsv> dorst: it could be a bug, as there's a lot experiencing the same issue, try this, if you go to your dash -> type in gnome-terminal, open that up and run: gksudo lshw -C display   and paste the output into a pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[11:02] <brian_11_04> dorst : go into "Additional Drivers" and select the recommended driver and install it.... then reboot
[11:02] <slooksterpsv> dorst: and send me the link that would be great, then we can see if it's a bug and is active or if it's not
[11:03] <dorst> ok thanks just a sec
[11:03] <adrian15> iceroot: Do you know about nginx options? I just do not want any restriction about download size and so on.
[11:04] <iceroot> adrian15: just using it as a imap-proxy
[11:04] <adrian15> iceroot: Ok.
[11:04] <iceroot> adrian15: but by default there are (imo) no restrictions
[11:06] <archie> hi
[11:08] <archie> ping
[11:08] <slooksterpsv> dorst:  you can also install mesa-utils via: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils and then run glxgears and if you get high frame rate on that, it's installed
[11:10] <m4rtin> hi all. On Natty, my update-grub works fine except that, finding an additional Fedora partition, it is passing by device name (root=/dev/sdb) instead of by UUID. I need it to pass by UUID. All ubuntu partitions get passed a UUID. Any ideas?
[11:11] <jnlsnl_> What happens when you mount a drive multiple times? =)
[11:11] <jnlsnl_> and its already mounted
[11:11] <egor_tensin> hi everyone! does anyone else expreriences troubles creating ad-hoc wireless network since natty?
[11:14] <dorst> slooksterpsv here is the link http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/620744/
[11:14] <Guest75401> hello
[11:16] <slooksterpsv> dorst: hmmm... I'm betting it is installed, but if you really want to test it out, I'd install mesa-utils and run glxgears
[11:16] <dorst> I get around 1179 FPS on glxgears
[11:16] <slooksterpsv> dorst: oh yeah it's installed then, normally without the drivers I get like 80fps max, and with I get over 300 on my HD 4200
[11:17] <Guest75401> i dont know that well
[11:17] <dorst> realy? greate, but why that message is still there
[11:17] <slooksterpsv> dorst: it's a bug
[11:17] <dorst> drivfer is activated but not currently in use
[11:18] <dorst> o greate
[11:18] <Hyperbyte> I'm running Ubuntu with LTSP, and people are complaining about programs randomly freezing.  I'm mounting /home/ via NFS, and I see ton of errors in dmesg.  http://local.recreatie-zorg.nl/jan/dmesg.txt  Any ideas what all this means?
[11:18] <slooksterpsv> dorst: right, it's a bug, it's actually showing up with a lot of people - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/771788
[11:18] <Sidewinder1> jnlsnl_, I don't believe that multiple mounts will do them any harm.
[11:18] <dorst> so my videocard is working... thanks man
[11:18] <slooksterpsv> dorst: you're welcome =D
[11:20] <jnlsnl_> Sidewinder1, reason I'm wondering.. if I do: "mount|grep <mountpoint>" then it shows an entry for each time i have mounted the drive... was wondering if that means the drive is actually mounted multiple times or something?
[11:20] <nidzo> please help, i installed this unubuntu, how can i run gta4, when i put the cd and click setup it opens some archiver thingy
[11:22] <almoxarife> nidzo: you are trying to open a file named 'setup.exe'?
[11:23] <nmesis> nidzo, running native windows apps needs wine to run in linux
[11:23] <Hyperbyte> nidzo is gone.
[11:23] <afrodeity> this is just typical, I'm not getting WSIWYG in GIMP
[11:23] <Sidewinder1> jnlsnl_, I suspect that they are mounted each time as their mount-points are different (keep in mind that each different/multiple drive must have a separate mount-point), but again, I don't think it will harm them.
[11:23] <afrodeity> one cm = one cm, surely?
[11:23] <remx> what do we think of the mono spaced font?
[11:23] <OerHeks> nidzo check wine database, GTA4 will run bad, they say > http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=8757
[11:24] <jnlsnl_> Sindewinder1 but the mountpoint is the same though, if I execute the same command twice: sudo mount -t cifs... Then the grep will show two results
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> jnlsnl_, My question to you is why you mount multiple times?
[11:25] <jnlsnl_> Sindewinder1 but i guess your right, it probably dose't matter
[11:26] <jnlsnl_> Sidewinder1 hehe i just forgot I already mounted the drive, and was wondering if that matters
[11:28] <iam3fun> hello guys
[11:28] <iam3fun> :)
[11:29] <iam3fun> can somebody help me about internet -> ubuntu server -> wireless router -> wireless clients ?
[11:29] <iam3fun> and actually about the wireless settings
[11:36]  * chickadee-afk brb's
[11:36]  * chickadee-afk brb's in a bit, actually
[11:37] <bonhoffer> sudo apt-get install wkthmltopdf produced E: Couldn't find package wkthmltopdf
[11:37] <chickadee-afk> @iam3fun: Make sure your settings are on WPA
[11:37] <bonhoffer> this has worked before
[11:37] <jnlsnl_> Can anyone give me an example of using options is a bash script ? Eg. myscript -m something
[11:38] <jnlsnl_> or is the "-m" just an argument?
[11:38]  * chickadee-afk brbiab's
[11:39] <egor_tensin> jnlsnl_: i believe bash will store '-m' and 'something' in a ARGV array available in your script
[11:40] <jnlsnl_> egor_tensin ok thanks, ill look into that
[11:42] <LekeFly> My pc only boots for half a sec.. what to do? the fans almost make it one round..
[11:42] <RenaKunisaki> check power supply
[11:43] <RenaKunisaki> not really a Ubuntu issue though
[11:49] <jiltdil> i have nvidia driver installed but it is showin that driver is activated but not in use any solution for this
[11:50] <stianhj> My soundcard sometimes drops out. Can I restart the drivers for it without restarting my machine?
[11:50] <arunkumar413> is there a way to unlock 3g usb modems in linux?
[11:51] <jiltdil>  i have nvidia driver installed but it is showin that driver is activated but not in use any solution for this
[11:52] <Fudge> can hpasmcli change fan speeds
[11:52] <egor_tensin> jnlsnl_: it's actually a bit more complicated: here it is a pretty useful tutorial http://goo.gl/6w0bM
[11:53] <jnlsnl_> egor_tensin I see, looks pretty comprehensive thanks
[11:54] <nettezzaumana_> hello
[11:55] <nettezzaumana_> howto get list of fb modes in bubuntu ??? for example `hwinfo --framebuffer' lists them elsewhere
[11:55] <nettezzaumana_> thanks
[11:56] <cmr> hello
[11:59] <cmr> I have a machine running hardy. I need to install a kernel >= 2.6.28, what's the preferred way to go about with this?
[11:59] <ampy> hola
[12:00] <Sidewinder1> !es > ampy
[12:00] <OerHeks> !hardy
[12:00] <EClaesson_> I recently installed ubuntu-server (11.04). But i seem to have problems booting correctly. I get to grub and it goes on loading, but after that i can't see anything at all, just black. And i can't find it on the network either.
[12:00] <OerHeks> cmr upgrade to 10.04 LTS ?
[12:01] <OerHeks> EClaesson_, ubuntu server has no desktopenvironment.
[12:01] <EClaesson_> OerHeks: I know that. But shouldn'y i get a terminal?
[12:01] <bullgard4> Synaptic: "libsdl-sound1.2 is a Decoder of several sound file formats for SDL." Does »SDL« stand here for »software description language?«
[12:02] <EClaesson_> And at least find it on the nwteork?
[12:02] <cmr> OerHeks, perhaps. the linux computers at this company run 8.04, upgrading to 10.04 is on the todo list, but right now I'd prefer something that just works instead of the hazzle of upgrading.
[12:02] <cmyrland> can somebody explain to me why ubuntu haven't looked into the qutecom project? It's open source, it supports calling mobile/landlines and supports video. Wouldn't that be a perfect solution to the Skype problems?
[12:03] <stianhj> bullgard4, SDL is Simple Directmedia Layer
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> cmyrland: 'why' is a philosophical question, this channel supports 'how' questions
[12:03] <EClaesson_> OerHeks: Any ideas?
[12:04] <cmyrland> MonkeyDust, then you should have a #ubuntu-philosophical channel too ;)
[12:04] <OerHeks> EClaesson_, did you install SSH ?
[12:04] <stianhj> EClaesson_, you should fix not getting terminal first, no?
[12:04] <EClaesson_> OerHeks, stianhj: I have SSH on it yes.
[12:05] <EClaesson_> But i can not connect to it, and network discovery can't see it
[12:05] <dpecka_> just for curiosity ::: how big attachment gmail accepts ?
[12:05] <stianhj> EClaesson_, but can you log in to it locally
[12:05] <Sidewinder1> cmyrland, There is; join #ubuntu-offtopic :-)
[12:05] <stianhj> dpecka_, 25 Mb
[12:05] <EClaesson_> stianhj: Oh, i can?
[12:06] <OerHeks> EClaesson_, try ' ssh -v localhost "
[12:06] <stianhj> EClaesson_, Can you log in to it locally?
[12:06] <stianhj> EClaesson_, have you tried the different TTYs or whatever it's called..
[12:07] <bullgard4> stianhj: Thank you very much for your help.
[12:07] <cmr> can I take a .deb of a newer ubuntu release and install it on hardy?
[12:07] <EClaesson_> stianhj: I can connect to it, and i auth correctly. But.. i get back to my laptop terminal, and not my server
[12:07] <FloatingGoat> Is it possible for me to advertise Ubuntu on a local station?
[12:08] <stianhj> FloatingGoat, yes
[12:08] <stianhj> i'm guessing
[12:08] <FloatingGoat> Well canonical has copyrights to the logo and name
[12:08] <Coke> Hello. How can I run unity (with the bar on the left side) in Ubuntu 11.04?
[12:08] <FloatingGoat> I think
[12:09] <stianhj> EClaesson_, but that's via ssh.. i'm asking if you have physical access to the server.. can you log in locally on it
[12:09] <FloatingGoat> But its very inexpensive.
[12:09] <shomon> !contribute
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> Coke: logout, then login with Ubuntu
[12:09] <Coke> I did
[12:09] <Sidewinder1> FloatingGoat, I think it's a great idea; why not contact Conical directly?
[12:09] <EClaesson_> stianhj: I have it right here yes, but i get no terminal on it. Screen is just black when i plug it in
[12:10] <FloatingGoat> Sidewinder1 I don't know how I could.
[12:10] <stianhj> FloatingGoat, http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[12:10] <Coke> I'm running "Ubuntu" session.
[12:10] <Coke> No sidebar
[12:10] <stianhj> EClaesson_, well then you should fix that first.. trying to ssh into a server that doesn't work..
[12:11] <Coke> I don't know this doesnt look like unity at all. There's a top bar that looks exactly like the normal gnome3
[12:11] <EClaesson_> stianhj: I guess i'll have to reinstall the server then
[12:11] <Coke> and no sidebar.
[12:11] <stianhj> EClaesson_, have you tried the different TTYs?
[12:11] <stianhj> EClaesson_, like ctrl-alt-f1 f2 etc
[12:12] <neoinr> now
[12:12] <Coke> How can I replace gnome3 with unity?
[12:12] <stianhj> Coke, maybe a hw acceleration issue?
[12:13] <Coke> stianhj: it's in virtualbox, ive got the guest addition installed
[12:13] <cmyrland> Wow, I actually discovered that qutecom is in the ubuntu repos :) But, and this is a big but, why doesn't the software center allow me to install non-autheticated programs when they are available in default repos? I can do it from CLI, but USC just says "Unable to download, check you internet connection".. That's annoyinh
[12:13] <cmyrland> g*
[12:13] <stianhj> Coke, yeah, don't think that works very well.. even with guest additions
[12:13] <Coke> vboxvideo is loaded in the guest system
[12:13] <Coke> compiz does.
[12:13] <Coke> I'm assuming it's just normal OpenGL?
[12:14] <EClaesson_> stianhj: That didn't help. I actually doesn't seem to get a signal out at all
[12:14] <Sidewinder1> FloatingGoat, Or you could start here (if you haven't already): http://www.canonical.com
[12:15] <stianhj> EClaesson_, weird.. reinstall maybe?
[12:15] <Coke> stianhj: so, basically, it doesnt work in virtualbox for unknown reasons?
[12:15] <FloatingGoat> Sidewinder1 alright thanks :)
[12:15] <EClaesson_> stianhj: I will. I tried starting in recovery mode, but as fast as the terminal should appear, i loose vide signal
[12:15] <EClaesson_> stianhj: Or perhaps it can't work on HDMI? (No, it's not really a server :P)
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> cmyrland, I prefer Synaptic to Software Centers; you may need to add some specific repositories in order to do what you wish to do.
[12:16] <Sidewinder1> FloatingGoat, No prob. :-)
[12:17] <stianhj> Coke, the reasons aren't unknown.. i just don't know them
[12:18] <tholl583xx> hi, i have x86_64 desktop running fedora14, a lot of the packages feel a bit rough, i am thinking of switching to ubuntu when i upgrade, how stable is ubuntu x64 ?
[12:20] <sipior> tholl583xx: it's fine.
[12:20] <cmyrland> Sidewinder1, this is not about personal taste. Canonical wants people to use the USC, and the program I tried to install was in the official repo. So why does USC tell me to check my internet connection, and then tell me the package had "unauthenticated" dependencies and just blocks my download? Not very user friendly.
[12:22] <stianhj> EClaesson_, i have no idea.. maybe that need some special gfx card drivers
[12:23] <Sidewinder1> cmyrland, I totally understand you frustration; unfortunately I can't answer your question..Plus, I usually avoid what want me to do...I'm just contrary. ;-)
[12:23] <Sidewinder1> Hence my use of Ubuntu
[12:25] <EClaesson_> stianhj: I'll try reinstalling. It doesn't even respond to ping
[12:26] <szal> what's USC?  friggin' PackageKit pkg manager frontend?
[12:27] <dpecka_> stianhj: thanks
[12:27] <dpecka_> stianhj: interesting, how they could support then my 10G limit or so
[12:28] <Sidewinder1> szal, I don't know about Software Center, but I believe that Synaptic is simply a front-end GUI for apt-get.
[12:28] <stianhj> dpecka_, what do you mean? what has one thing got to do with the other?
[12:28] <stianhj> Sidewinder1, software center is just a more fancy front-end GUI for apt-get, isn't it?
[12:29] <kirean> I need help with dockbarx.
[12:29] <kirean> I'm trying to Install manually, but I don't knowhow to do:
[12:29] <kirean> 3. Add DockBarX applet to panel (kill gnome-panel first if necessary)
[12:30] <bigmahatma> hi, I've just installed 11.04. After the login (automatic) I always have to insert the keyring password, to unlock the wifi password. How can I avoid it?
[12:30] <kirean> how do I "kill gnome-panel first if necessary"
[12:30] <dpecka_> stianhj: that's bit of unproportional ... i don't use google much but now i'm unable to send an email with attached 65MB in one file and i just didn't expect that if google still claims with proud how much space we all have that's dumb like this
[12:30] <Sidewinder1> stianhj, Perhaps, I don't know, but last time I checked (Hardy?) Synaptic had thousands more installable packages than Software Ctr.
[12:30] <kirean> smart as i am I translated that to delete panel
[12:30] <kirean> so now I don't have the old panel and no dockbarx either
[12:31] <kirean> how can I activate/enable dockbarx?
[12:31] <kirean> or add new panels?
[12:31] <kirean> ah, I could add new panels from the top panel..
[12:32] <adi11> hi all.i have a 2005 fujitsu siemens celeron 2.6, 1 gb ram, 40 gb hdd, and 32 mb sis integrated grapics. its been 3 years now that i use a xorg.conf in order to get higher resolution than 960X600 that vesa driver proposes me after freash install. i installed 11.04 and put xorg.conf file on /etc/X11 dir. i can get gigher resolutions but everything video is slugish, firefox rendering is horrible....
[12:32] <kirean> ah, now the dropbarx is available for adding to the panel..
[12:32] <kirean> magic
[12:33] <adi11> cant watch youtube video on totem, and the whole system is so slow. i choose ubuntu classic on log in screen but all is very slow and unresponsive. it seems to me that somewhere there are still some affects turned on.
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> adi11, Have you tried logging in with "classic", rather than Unity?
[12:34] <szal> Sidewinder1: read again please ;)
[12:35] <Sidewinder1> szal, Ah, sorry I type way too slow and worse, gotta look at keyboard...:-(
[12:35] <adi11> now that i am on the vesa driver again. and all seems to work. but i cant have higher res than 960X600. just a bit higher than i iphone :)
[12:36] <fellipe> hi friends. do anyone know something like remastersys to take a snapshot of a ubuntu server wich has no GUI ?
[12:37] <Stava> In /etc/fstab should is ntfs or ntfs-3g preferred as type? Also, do I need to enable utf8 support for the drive?
[12:37] <Stava> -should
[12:37] <lolyp0p> new at IRC : where can I find some french "chating" room ?  and for asking/answering question, people just come like than and ask? or what ever?
[12:37] <Sik> Supid question: does Ubuntu come with LPT support or is it disabled? :|
[12:37] <adi11> is there any thing i can do about it or it simply means that ubuntu is becoming a vista or 7 like os's for my old hardware...
[12:38] <Sidewinder1> !fr | lolyp0p
[12:38] <sabiancrash_cgx> Temps cannot be colder than absolute 0. (-459.67F)
[12:38] <szal> !irc | lolyp0p
[12:38] <sabiancrash_cgx> Temps cannot be colder than absolute 0. (-459.67F)
[12:38] <szal> bleh..  sabiancrash_cgx: please turn that off, you've been asked to do that already
[12:38] <clakes> he's virtually right though
[12:39] <stianhj> dpecka_, the point of all the space is that you never have to delete anything.. it's not your personal filestorage.. just use dropbox or something
[12:39] <Maimster> Morning all.
[12:39] <adi11> i repeat that my sis graphics is all the problems... but in the past i have been able to run ubuntu smoothly with this xorg.conf file Action partnsip gave me once :)
[12:41] <szal> stianhj: you know that dropbox is potentially unsafe?
[12:42] <stianhj> szal, unsafe how?
[12:42] <adi11> thanks.
[12:42] <szal> stianhj: unsafe in that their employees have access to your data
[12:43] <_Rix> hello
[12:43] <_Rix> i removed fedora from my ubuntu-fedora dualboot
[12:43] <_Rix> but it doesn't show ubuntu's grub menu
[12:44] <_Rix> i'm probably explaining it poorly
[12:44] <Sik> _Rix: does it boot directly?
[12:44] <stianhj> szal, sure, but that goes for a lot of cloud services/websites.. and there are always alternatives and solutions
[12:44] <_Rix> Sik, no i type out from the grub prompt
[12:44] <Sidewinder1> _Rix, Have you tried, from ubuntu live-cd sudo update-grub?
[12:44] <CokeMD> evening
[12:44] <stianhj> dropbox was just a suggestion for storing bigger files
[12:45] <CokeMD> anyone installed ubuntu using the minimal cd iso?
[12:45] <_Rix> Sidewinder1, no
[12:46] <CokeMD> I'm looking to get make my machine as fast as possible, and only get apps/drivers as I need them :)
[12:46] <Sidewinder1> _Rix, Try it; it can't hurt; I don't think..
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> CokeMD: http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Speed_Up_Linux
[12:47] <stianhj> CokeMD, that sounds like a job for Arch Linux :)
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> CokeMD: tip: install preload
[12:47] <_Rix> Sidewinder1, any alternatives?
[12:47] <_Rix> besides that?
[12:48] <Sidewinder1> _Rix, None that I can think of 'cause I've never experienced that problem; perhaps someone else....
[12:48] <_deyan_> CokeMD aptosid is an option also
[12:50] <revilodraw> hey y'all, when i use exaile to download all the album art for my music library, where does it store all those images?
[12:51] <Sik> Does anybody know can I tell if the system has LPT port support? (more specifically, to plug some old console joystick in it >_>)
[12:52] <mark__> lst
[12:52] <mark__> channel
[12:52] <mark__> help
[12:53] <fellipe> hi friends. do anyone know something like remastersys to take a snapshot of a ubuntu server wich has no GUI ?
[12:54] <sipior> fellipe: have a look at fsarchiver (or partimage, if you're not using ext4)
[12:55] <sipior> fellipe: or set the machine up with lvm, and just use the lvm snapshot facility...
[13:02] <sveinse> I want to make a init service manual, but if I add the manual stanza (according to man 5 init), upstart does not recognize the service any more
[13:02] <Yanch0> guys is it possible to use a vncviewer inside a vnc session pls? i am getting Error: Can't open display:
[13:02] <sveinse> Does anyone have any examples of how to use a manual service?
[13:02] <RevSpecies116> Yanch0:
[13:02] <RevSpecies116> Ubuntu 10.04LTS?
[13:03] <kiamo> hi
[13:03] <kiamo> I get a GPG error when trying to update ubuntu11.04
[13:03] <Yanch0> RevSpecies116, 11.04 is the first vnc - connected to suse inside
[13:03] <kiamo> something about the public key not being available...
[13:03] <kiamo> does anyone know how to resolve this/
[13:03] <kiamo> ?
[13:04] <viderbit> pruge caches of apt
[13:04] <viderbit> ?
[13:04] <bazhang> !gpgerr | kiamo
[13:04] <kiamo> ah thanks bazhang
[13:05] <RevSpecies116> I believe that VNC'ing within a VNC event is not possible
[13:07] <magpii> i know this is unrelated but i need to find an irc chat room that deals with mercedes benz diagnostic quiries if someone can help please
[13:07] <bazhang> !alis | magpii
[13:10] <magpii> ok i am not too good with script. how do i open a query with alis regarding mercedes benz?
[13:11] <bazhang> magpii, lets take this to #freenode please
[13:11] <magpii> ok
[13:16] <auk> hello, question: is there a more advisable way to copy an entire 80gb home directory than using nautilus? also, would it be faster if done from a livecd?
[13:18] <bazhang> auk, move to another partition, or simply back it up somewhere else
[13:18] <viderbit> dudes, is it only for me that skype fail to connect
[13:18] <llutz_> auk: you could use "cp -ax ......" but i doubt it'll be much faster. Also using a livecd shouldn't make big differences
[13:18] <viderbit> and reconecting from 1 hour
[13:19] <auk> bazhang, llutz, i'm trying to make a simply backup, of my home directory onto a usb-plugged HD
[13:19] <auk> *simple backup
[13:19] <airescript1> hgdhsqg
[13:19] <bazhang> auk, rsync perhaps
[13:19] <llutz_> auk: copying 80GB of data takes some time
[13:19] <bazhang> airescript1, english please
[13:20] <airescript1> ok
[13:20] <juank_prada> hi all
[13:20] <airescript1> hi evryone
[13:21] <auk> hmm ok.. i think i'm gonna just go with nautilus (i already did a déjà dup backup too, this is a second one)
[13:21] <juank_prada> Right now I'm using fedora, but i just downloaded an .iso file from ubuntu and I'd like to install it on my USB is there a way to do it from Fedora? i can see only instruction for Ubuntu and Windows, but not other Linux distros
[13:21] <th^^> auk: i recommend deja dup
[13:21] <th^^> auk: http://live.gnome.org/DejaDup/Screenshots
[13:21] <th^^> it's really simple and handy
[13:21] <airescript1> hey doe s anyone  know how to uninstall unity interface??
[13:21] <th^^> can also backup over ssh, etc
[13:21] <bazhang> juank_prada, unetbootin.sourceforge.net should have one for fedora if their repos dont
[13:21] <th^^> auk: it's available in repos, just search for 'deja' in software center
[13:22] <auk> th^^, yeah i already did one backup with déjà dup
[13:22] <bazhang> airescript1, you dont, choose classic from login window
[13:22] <airescript1> ok
[13:22] <llutz_> auk: USB(2) writespeed will be the bottlenek, independend of the tool you use
[13:22] <juank_prada> bazhang: thanks
[13:23] <viderbit> anyone problems with skype?
[13:23] <auk> th^^, this is a second one for good measure, plus i tried looking for ways to verify the integrity of a déjà dup archive and couldn't find any
[13:23] <airescript1> bazhang i ve installed compiz but it  does not work in classic mode
[13:23] <bazhang> airescript1, installed ccsm?
[13:23] <airescript1> yeah
[13:23] <auk> llutz_, even if you add encryption into the mix?
[13:23] <llutz_> auk: depends on your CPU i guess
[13:24] <juank_prada> how is the current status of Unity? is it stable enough for a workstation?
[13:24] <bazhang> airescript1, what does alt f2 compiz --replace return
[13:24] <bazhang> juank_prada, stable enough. just not very well liked as it's a significant departure from regular gnome
[13:24] <th^^> juank_prada: i've used it for 2 months now without a single crash
[13:25] <airescript1> bazhang did not get
[13:25] <auk> llutz, hmm probably the USB then
[13:25] <th^^> i like it, it was the only thing after years of windows that got me to try linux again ;-)
[13:25] <auk> th^^, have you ever restored a backup from déjà dup? any issues or problems?
[13:25] <bazhang> airescript1, not sure then; are your 3d drivers installed? also ask in #compiz as well
[13:25] <th^^> auk: nope, fortunately haven't been need for that yet :-)
[13:25] <juank_prada> bazhang: well i don't really care about it being separate from regular Gnome (imho, Unity should completly separate from Gnome and a third major DE should arise from this)
[13:25] <airescript1> wht  are those
[13:26] <RevSpecies116> bazhang, Unity is unliked by a vocal minority
[13:26] <auk> juank_prada, wow those are fighting words
[13:26] <bazhang> airescript1, system adminstration additional drivers
[13:27] <th^^> many "regular" people that i've shown unity have said it looks cooler than mac :-)
[13:27] <auk> th^^, yeah same here but i'm worried about the integrity
[13:27] <juank_prada> auk: not fighting words, just an opinion... I think unity is doing great (i havent tested it yet though) and ubuntu should try to make their own way up to success
[13:27] <Sik> How do I tell if Ubuntu supports a LPT port? I want to connect a Mega Drive joystick there :|
[13:28] <auk> imho, gnome-shell and unity are basically different implementations of very similar concepts, and i think i prefer the gnome shell on the whole, although i haven't used it nearly so much as unity
[13:28] <jnlsnl_> Im writing my first bash script... im using getopts... how do i grab the first argument? eg. script -m <firstargument>
[13:28] <airescript1> bazhang got sata broadcom wireless driver installed
[13:28] <jnlsnl_> or rather the argument connect to the option
[13:28] <spass> Sik LPT is old tech. It's supported for sure.
[13:28] <iceroot> jnlsnl_: $1
[13:28] <Sik> spass: but it could have been disabled :P
[13:28] <juank_prada> auk: i have used it, and although the concept is quite similiar, the implementation differs a lot, gnome-shell being so much more complicated to use
[13:29] <spass> Sik: it's used in many companies - printers
[13:29] <spass> Sik: disabling would be a shoot in the foot.
[13:29] <Sik> The problem is that I don't see /dev/lp0, or /dev/parport0, or anything like that :/
[13:29] <auk> juank_prada, there are a few somewhat conspicuous and annoying bugs in unity, although mostly nothing production-damaging
[13:29] <auk> juank_prada, and i have had it crash two or three times
[13:30] <juank_prada> and by this a I don't mean its cluttered or confusing... it just add steps that are really not necessary to the workflow
[13:30] <llutz_> solitude: "sudo modprobe parport lp"
[13:30] <llutz_> Sik: ^^ sry
[13:30] <juank_prada> i think ubuntu's way to show running/current apps its way better than gnome-shell
[13:30] <aar> Hello, any recommendations for desktop file indexing in Kubuntu 10.04? I need it to be able to read into PDFs, DOCs and ODT.
[13:30] <spass> Sik: check if you have it enabled in BIOS
[13:30] <auk> juank_prada, i presume you mean how the unity bar is visible by default?