[00:00] <blami> bekks: in case of 50 I see some improvement
[00:00] <demondin> okay, would it be worth it you think? im kinda just doing it to test it out..
[00:00] <bekks> blami: Me dont. I'll just use copy and paste for the relevant contents of those three files.
[00:00] <luigi> Hi guys
[00:00] <luigi> Anyone have any problems?
[00:00] <luigi> I'm very bored and willing to help out
[00:01] <F3Speech> demondin: you could move the partisions about and install on a new partision while saving your old but tbh if your new easier to back them up insead of choosing wrong option and losing them
[00:01] <demondin> back them up to my external?
[00:01] <F3Speech> demondin: if you just want to test use a live version on usb or cd
[00:02] <F3Speech> then you pc isnt changed but you get to have a look around reboot will take u back to windows
[00:03] <demondin> well it's really not like im going to be using my old laptop a lot
[00:03] <demondin> and im just kind of crious
[00:05] <blami> demondin: backup three times, think twice and install after that ;)
[00:06] <demondin> im so new to backing up and all of this stuff, i feel dumb
[00:07] <F3Speech> got to start somewhere :) even if it just copying them to a usb stick
[00:08] <demondin> ive got a 1tb external harddrive...should i back everything up? or just things i care about
[00:09] <dbrom> id back it up
[00:09] <frooh> hey guys, I'm fiddling with two factor auth in xscreensaver and xscreensaver is complaining that it can't find my gnome-keyring
[00:10] <frooh> does anyone have any clue what that has to do with anything?
[00:10] <frooh> (to be clear, I cannot log in at all)
[00:11] <frooh> actually, two factor is a red herring, it only seems to have anything to do with the yubikey stuff I'm messing with
[00:15] <kylescottmcgill> frooh: gnome-keyring holds all passwords stored in Ubuntu, so yubikey will need to be able to find this in order for it to work properly
[00:15] <fellipe> hi, does ubuntu remove files in /tmp while system  is running?
[00:20] <bigbadben> I installed Kubuntu and it has horrible dual monitor support is there anyway I can install ubuntu again, if I just install the ubuntu desktop will I get the ubuntu software center, along with all the other programs ubuntu has?
[00:21] <Squarepy> bigbadben, ubuntu desktop? you mean unity?
[00:21] <Squarepy> or the full installer
[00:21] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: ok, so it wants me to have a pkcs11 file in my keyring cache; other non-X11 things (sudo, login) work with the yubikey
[00:21] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: thoughts?
[00:22] <bigbadben> squarepy, 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[00:22] <ozzloy> my right alt doesn't work in ubuntu 12.04, how do i troubleshoot this?
[00:24] <angel56> ozzloy: used to be able to define keys in .Xmodmap, but I don't know if ubuntu even recognizes that file anymore
[00:25] <kslater> does anyone know if 12.04 supports some sort of automatic display sensing / switching?
[00:26] <ikonia> kslater: xorg is dynamic in any ubuntu version now
[00:26] <unknown_> where can i upload a screen shot?
[00:27] <ikonia> any image hosting website
[00:27] <kslater> ikonia: I guess that means I need to read what that means specifically.
[00:27] <ikonia> kslater: it means it will attempt to detect your video hardware dynamically
[00:28] <kslater> I had to use the nvidia X server settings application to light up my other display
[00:28] <unknown_> thanks ikonia
[00:28] <dr_willis> kslater:  in 12.10 it enables my 2nd monitor when its plugged in. nvidia/twinview
[00:28] <kslater> what I would *like* to have happen is when my laptop lid is closed, but it's in the docking station, to drive the two external monitors
[00:29] <kslater> and when I take it out to drive the laptop LCD
[00:29] <kslater> that would be really great to get working.
[00:29] <ikonia> how are you connecting 2 external monitors from a laptop
[00:29] <ikonia> kslater: that should be possible
[00:29] <kslater> I have a docking station that supports it
[00:29] <ikonia> so it will depend on how the docking station works in terms of linux support
[00:32] <unknown_> http://postimage.org/image/rofe8tu59/6c3ccb45/   http://postimage.org/image/90xorf6bb/66e20942/  http://postimage.org/image/wnfci8w6z/b9ba420b/  http://postimage.org/image/r6f8j7v7b/7989b4a1/  http://postimage.org/image/3su6aqsaz/4026735b/  http://postimage.org/image/j9uvy0hr9/e08add4d/
[00:32] <unknown_> can someone please look at my screen shots
[00:33] <bekks> unknown_: Why? what are we supposed to find there?
[00:33] <ikonia> why ?#
[00:33] <unknown_> ubuntu keeps crashing
[00:33] <ikonia> just explain the problem
[00:33] <unknown_> i dunno i was hoping i can fix the prom.
[00:33] <dr_willis> details would help us.
[00:34] <unknown_> it is all in the screen shots
[00:34] <unknown_> the details
[00:34] <bekks> unknown_: Just explain it. All the details.
[00:34] <dr_willis> im on my phone. so looking at 100 screen shots is rather hard
[00:34] <bekks> !details | unknown_
[00:35] <unknown_> well soon as i boot up i get crash error saying sorry ubuntu has experianced an internal error
[00:35] <unknown_> if you see this again try rebooting the computer
[00:35] <kslater> it's weird how Unity makes the mouse stick at the border of the combined (TwinView) display. Maybe I should only have the side menu on the left most lcd panel.
[00:36] <unknown_> Unity is causing me alot of proms. too it seems
[00:36] <kylescottmcgill> frooh: sorry had lunch, do it give you an error message?
[00:36]  * unknown_ is using X-Sys v2.2.0 (http://dev.gentoo.org/~chainsaw/xsys)
[00:36] <unknown_> os[Linux 3.2.0-35-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "precise" 12.04] cpu[4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2330M CPU @ 2.20GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.20GHz] mem[Physical: 3.8GB, 80.7% free] disk[Total: 1.1TB, 94.3% free] video[Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH]
[00:37] <frooh> basically it said it couldn't find (connect to) ~/.cache/keyring-XXXX/pkcs11
[00:37] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : as much support as you provide here ... doing it on a phone is REALLY impressive ... at least to me ... mind if i ask what phone & service
[00:37] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: I looked online and think it might be solvable with a modification to the /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop file
[00:38] <spjt> Maybe I'm out of my league here but if I wanted to contribute what should I do.
[00:38] <kylescottmcgill> frooh: ok good luck!
[00:38] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: basically I'm experiencing this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=783568
[00:38] <unknown_> every crash i get i have sent the crash report to help ubuntu fix it
[00:39] <unknown_> can someone help me maybe with finding some log that tells what happened or why ubuntu crashed ?
[00:39]  * frooh crosses fingers
[00:39] <dr_willis> Tex_Nick: just atnt on an android phone
[00:39] <Guest93115> i would like to ask about "Data Collection" and privacy policy .. if i disabled "include on line search image " option  is  Canonical still able to see my "personal information " as stated in policy ?
[00:42] <frooh> :(
[00:42] <frooh> no luck
[00:42] <maslen> How can I examine my SSH keys?
[00:43] <kylescottmcgill> frooh: yeah i had similar symptoms these guys had, im using another Window Manager, which doesnt use gnome, so the daemon wasnt being started when logging in, i had to attach it to a autostart.sh file, to make sure it spawned correctly, which fixed everything for me
[00:43] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: ok, so you're saying when the wm starts you run "/usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=pkcs11" ? (I'm using awesomewm)
[00:44] <kylescottmcgill> im using awesome as well
[00:44] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis maybe we should all switch to android phones ... cause i never hear you complaining about problems ;)
[00:44] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: nice! are you starting from lightdm (or gdm) ?
[00:44] <kylescottmcgill> gdm, lightdm kept giving me a Low Res GFX error thing
[00:44] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: I haven't gone to the effort of setting up a script to run other programs, if you can tell me how to do that I'd apprecite it
[00:44] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: yeah, same here
[00:45] <kylescottmcgill> i will paste my config
[00:45] <frooh> woot
[00:45] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: thanks :D
[00:45] <kylescottmcgill> frooh: actually give me about 5 mins, i will setup a proper gist with what you need and where etc
[00:46] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: awesome, thanks so much
[00:47] <unknown_> this is the error i got (unity-applications-deamon crashed with signal 7)
[00:47] <unknown_> can anyone tell me what that means??
[00:48] <unknown_> i am running ubuntu 12.04.1 x64
[00:49] <unknown_> i get the error soon as i boot up
[00:51] <kylescottmcgill> frooh: have you got GTK running properly as well?
[00:51] <frooh> kylescottmcgill: I... think so?
[00:51] <frooh> it's themed anyway
[00:51] <kylescottmcgill> so when you open nautalis or something, its pretty?
[00:51] <kylescottmcgill> ok cool
[00:52] <unknown_> Can anyone tell what this means? (unity-applications-deamon crashed with signal 7) i am running ubuntu 12.04.1 x64
[00:52] <dr_willis> unknown_:  this is a clean install?
[00:52] <frooh> https://github.com/frioux/dotfiles/blob/master/gtkrc-2.0
[00:52] <frooh> that's all I did
[00:52] <unknown_> dr_willis yes
[00:52] <kylescottmcgill> ok then its actually only two files then you need
[00:53] <kylescottmcgill> https://gist.github.com/4448970
[00:53] <unknown_> dr_willis this happens every time i boot up
[00:53] <dr_willis> unknown_:  with all these weird errors id have to wonder if somthing was not messed up during ther install, or a bad cd/burn/download, or some hw related issues.
[00:53] <kylescottmcgill> also, inside that .xinitrc file you can have other applets
[00:54] <kylescottmcgill> eg: bluetooth-applet gnome-sound-applet
[00:54] <unknown_> dr_willis I check the cd and it passed with no errors but yes i think it may be that as well is there any log files we can look at that may give more info?
[00:55] <dr_willis> unknown_:  /var/log has all logs
[00:55] <dr_willis> unknown_:  id try a 12.10 install.
[00:55] <unknown_> what log would be most helpful right now?
[00:56] <Bino1710> does anyone know how to change the back round image for the log in screen
[00:56] <unknown_> oh this may be helpful i used the altenate install cd because i wanted to encrypt my install with lvm
[00:57] <dr_willis> Bino1710:  for lightdm? it auto changes to the one the user has selected. or you can edddit the image in /usr/share/backgrounds (i recall) or edit the lightdm configs
[00:57] <dr_willis> unknown_:  i never use lvm.  never neeeded it on a home system
[00:57] <Bino1710> ok thanks for the info
[00:58] <kylescottmcgill> lvm?
[00:58] <unknown_> if i upgrade to 12.10 will my lvm stay in place?
[00:58] <dr_willis> Bino1710:  theres some tweak tools out fore it also
[00:58] <ece> bought an hp g62 notebook used today because had ubuntu and talked em into $150. need to do an OS upgrade and the auto upgrade failed since its an older build
[00:58] <kylescottmcgill> oh that lvm, sorry i thought that was in reference to lightdm
[00:58] <dr_willis> unknown_:  if its a clean install why does it matter?  why do you really need a lvm?
[00:59] <dr_willis> ece:  with a used computer. i would suggest a clean reinstall anyway for 'security' reasons
[00:59] <unknown_> i always encrypt my linux as i have a laptop and i always worry about theft
[00:59] <ece> yes
[01:00] <Gavin_v> hello everybody, i upgrade my ubuntu from 12.04 to 12.10, but now all of the close button and minixiae botton missing
[01:00] <seednode> Eh, too bad I don't have data important enough to back up
[01:00] <seednode> Or protect
[01:00] <dr_willis> Gavin_v:  make a new user see if they have the same issue as a test case.
[01:01] <dr_willis> if a new user works fine. then it points to a user setting issue
[01:02] <Gavin_v> dr_jesus, i've tried, the new user works fine
[01:02] <dr_willis> then it points to a user setting issue. id reset the problem users settings ;)
[01:03] <unknown_> i will try 12.10
[01:03] <dr_willis> they really need a default tool to do that...
[01:03] <Gavin_v> i just tried by the guest user, it works fine
[01:03] <dr_willis> ubuntu-tweak used to have the feature
[01:03] <unknown_> thanks guys for the help
[01:04] <TheLordOfTime> dr_willis, there's always brainstorm to propose new things/.
[01:04] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks!
[01:04] <unknown_> i will let you know what happens
[01:04] <dr_willis> TheLordOfTime:  yea. and ive rarely ever seen any get implemented
[01:04] <Gavin_v> dr_jesus, which default tool shall i use?
[01:04] <karol__> Hi all
[01:05] <dr_willis> Gavin_v:  i just move my config files/dirs to a backup dir then log out/back in
[01:05] <GeorgeJ> I've create a 100G LVM logical volume and formatted it as ext4. df -h reports the partition as having 99G, of which 188M is used and 94G available, where's the rest?
[01:05] <Gavin_v> dr_jesus, thanks
[01:06] <dr_willis> 5% of ext2/3/4 is reserved for root/file recovery. tuneable via the tune2fs command GeorgeJ
[01:06] <GeorgeJ> There's nothing on the partition, so I guess 188M is how much ext4 needs for its structures, but what about the extra 5GB that are missing
[01:06] <GeorgeJ> dr_willis: Aha! Fascinating! Thank you!
[01:07] <dr_willis> for data drives i set that to 0%   system drives i may set it to 1%
[01:07] <dr_willis> on a 3TB /    1% is a lot ;)
[01:07] <GeorgeJ> Hmm, why set it to 0%? Will that no hinder file recovery
[01:07] <GeorgeJ> ?
[01:07] <GeorgeJ> Data drives can still fuck up.
[01:08] <dr_willis> for my video data external storage. i dont worrrry about recovery
[01:08] <dr_willis> i have backups
[01:08] <GeorgeJ> Hmm, that's a great point!
[01:08] <dr_willis> they are most always 98% full anyway
[01:08] <Gavin_v> great~
[01:10] <GeorgeJ> dr_willis: What option is it I need to modify with tune2fs? -m?
[01:11] <dr_willis>  -m0 i think.. check the man pages
[01:11] <kylescottmcgill> what do you call the command line operators ( && << ; ) i want to see if there is an exhaustive list somewhere
[01:11] <dr_willis> it can do it several ways
[01:12] <kylescottmcgill> do they have a name? operators isnt the correct terminology according to google
[01:12] <dr_willis> kylescottmcgill:  most decent bash guides will covee them
[01:12] <mrj> I'm trying to install a PPA on a minimal install, I just need the add-apt-repository command to work. I installed python-software-properties but it just tells me "the program add-apt-repository" can be found in the following packages: pythonsoftwareproperties & softwarepropertiescommon
[01:12] <dr_willis>  << are redirection  operators..
[01:12] <dr_willis>  && and &  are job controll
[01:13] <kylescottmcgill> dr_willis: ty, so they have different names, not lumped into one named convention, i will just try find some guides :)
[01:14] <mrj> well nevermind.. it let me apt get them anyway
[01:16] <mic__> ciao
[01:17] <mic__> non riesco ad aprire ubuntu sofware center
[01:17] <WeThePeople> how do i resolve this>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1494011/
[01:18] <kylescottmcgill-> seems there is a limit to the username
[01:18] <GeorgeJ> WeThePeople: Add your hostname to /etc/hosts
[01:18] <mic__> chi puo aiutarmi
[01:18] <kslater> so don't make any of your host name 'root'
[01:19] <GeorgeJ> kslater: Why not?
[01:19] <WeThePeople> georgej, meaning ace??
[01:19] <kslater> so you don't run into that error that WeThePeople did?
[01:19] <GeorgeJ> kslater: It has nothing to do with the actual hostname, only with the fact that the system cannot resolve the hostname
[01:20] <GeorgeJ> WeThePeople: No, you need to edit /etc/hosts and add root <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:20] <GeorgeJ> Or perhaps modify the old hostname(I'm assuming you changed the hostname).
[01:20] <kslater> doesn't the # prompt indicate that the user is already root?
[01:20] <WeThePeople> georgej, i mounted sda1 and bound dev, sys and proc
[01:20] <kslater> and if so, why is he using sudo?
[01:21] <WeThePeople> thankyou
[01:21] <kslater> why not just chown ace.ace .ICEauthority?
[01:21] <GeorgeJ> WeThePeople: Did it work?
[01:21] <WeThePeople> no
[01:21] <WeThePeople> hold on
[01:21] <GeorgeJ> kslater: Well, sudo can be used with the -u parameter, he didn't do it though so your point still applies.
[01:22] <WeThePeople> georgej, kslater, idk did it work>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1494031/
[01:23] <GeorgeJ> WeThePeople: There is another problem. I've no ideea what you're trying to do, and probably neither do you.
[01:23] <kslater> LOL
[01:23] <WeThePeople> not really
[01:23] <rrva__> how can I check in ubuntu, the number of spatial streams active for a 802.11n connection? just look at the bit rate from iwconfig?
[01:24] <mic__> ciao
[01:24] <kslater> WeThePeople: what does: ls -l .ICEauthority show?
[01:24] <mic__> chi puo aiutarmi
[01:25] <WeThePeople> kslater, brb
[01:26] <mic__> toc toc
[01:26] <somsip> !it | mic__
[01:27] <GeorgeJ> !google sudo: unable to resolve host root >> Webu
[01:27] <Shuri-> Results for sudo: unable to resolve host root >> Webu on Google:
[01:27] <Shuri-> --
[01:27] <GeorgeJ> Ooops, sorry!
[01:27] <blob4000> hi there. i think i had better stability with 12.04 LTS on my laptop, over 12.10. how best to back up my home folder and revert to 12.04 LTS?
[01:27] <mic__> thank george
[01:30] <dr_willis> blob4000:  best would have been to use a seperate /home/ partition
[01:31] <dr_willis> blob4000:  id just copy imporntant stuff to another hd, reinstall then copy it back
[01:32] <kslater> dr_willis: I always wonder if some package has moved it's data / format forward and that if I copy some config or data back it'll break the application
[01:33] <dr_willis> kslater:     ages ago i had issues with gnome and that. these days rarely see the problem
[01:33] <dr_willis> when in doubt reset back to defaults
[01:34] <kslater> good to know dr_willis
[01:34] <weThePeople> kslater, what was the question again?
[01:34] <GeorgeJ> weThePeople: http://bit.ly/RvB2q9
[01:35] <blob4000> thank dr_willis
[01:35] <weThePeople> georgej, that stuff doent work in BT5
[01:35] <GeorgeJ> weThePeople: What do you mean it doesn't work? Also, if you're running BT5, you're in the wrong channel.
[01:36] <vishnu1983> hi is there anyone who can help me with a font issue on ubuntu 11.10
[01:36] <kslater> weThePeople: you asked if what you did worked. I asked you to run: "ls -l .ICEauthority". If user and group are ace, then it worked.
[01:37] <arch> does anyone need help
[01:37] <vishnu1983> I seem to have a grayed out font color in gnome 3
[01:37] <vishnu1983> hi arch
[01:37] <arch> hello
[01:37] <F3Speech> arch: struggling with grub if you wouldnt mind
[01:38] <vishnu1983> i have a font related issue
[01:38] <sevenforall> I have a bunch of movies in a folder, of which some are in subfolders. Is there a terminal command that will automatically move everything from the subfolders to that one movie folder?
[01:38] <arch> no
[01:38] <F3Speech> arch: have essentially cloned one hdd to another and i cant fix grub with uuids to get it to boot
[01:38] <GeorgeJ> sevenforall: mv */* . methinks
[01:39] <sevenforall> I wonder if 'mv */* .' would work
[01:39] <dr_willis> vishnu1983: i belive thats more of a theme issue. i had to twiddle with the varoius themes once. fonte were unreadable in some apps/entry  fields
[01:39] <sevenforall> GeorgeJ: We think alike
[01:39] <GeorgeJ> sevenforall: You better check it out first
[01:39] <dr_willis> bbl
[01:39] <GeorgeJ> * might also match ..
[01:39] <sevenforall> GeorgeJ: Yeah, I'm going to set-up a test environment, I don't want to scr*w up my dire media collection :P
[01:40] <GeorgeJ> sevenforall: This is a perfect time for you to learn find. ^^
[01:40] <mcsx3> Good Evening! Everyone
[01:40] <mcsx3> Can anybody here helpme with a little prob?
[01:40] <UbuntuWarrior> Yes
[01:40] <mcsx3> thx
[01:41] <GeorgeJ> Another satisfied customer!
[01:41] <mcsx3> I'm trying to use a ZTE broadband G3 USB dongle
[01:41] <mcsx3> on Unbuntu 12.10
[01:42] <mcsx3> I've found on the Web some solutions, but noone has worked
[01:44] <micmic> aiutooooooooooo
[01:45] <UbuntuWarrior> Ok what is the problem?
[01:45] <micmic> non riesco ad entrare in ubuntu software center
[01:45] <micmic> carica ma non parte
[01:46] <M13> is there anyone here that have heard of buildroot?
[01:47] <erreur> zhqts zrong zith error.
[01:48] <micmic> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:48] <sevenforall> GeorgeJ: I decided to be stupid and I ran 'mv ./*/* .' directly on the directory itself, it worked :D
[01:49] <mcsx3> Good Evening! Everyone
[01:49] <mcsx3> Can anybody here helpme with a little prob?
[01:49] <mcsx3> thx
[01:49] <mcsx3> I'm trying to use a ZTE broadband G3 USB dongle on Unbuntu 12.10
[01:49] <mcsx3> I've found on the Web some solutions, but noone has worked
[01:49] <FloodBot1> mcsx3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:50] <micmic> aiutoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[01:50] <weThePeople> can somebody look at the .iceauthority file to see what is there
[01:51] <micmic> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[01:51] <dr_willis> in it you mean? weThePeople
[01:52] <k1l_> micmic: stop that please
[01:52] <weThePeople> dr_willis, yes
[01:52] <erreur> micmic jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[01:52] <micmic> ok ok
[01:52] <micmic> chi mi aiuta
[01:53] <erreur> soeak english
[01:53] <micmic> no
[01:53] <erreur> speak english yaaaaaaaaaaaw
[01:53] <erreur> french
[01:53] <erreur> ??
[01:53] <micmic> it
[01:53] <k1l_> !it | micmic
[01:54] <dulio> English is my only foreign language....
[01:54] <micmic> ci sono andato ma nessuno mi risponde
[01:54] <erreur> aywah that's right probably she ll understand
[01:54] <dulio> Make me confused.
[01:54] <erreur> dulio
[01:55] <erreur> is ther a aplication in 2012 like firesheep for example
[01:55] <erreur> ?
[01:55] <dulio> erreur, yea, what?
[01:55] <erreur> firesheep ? cant installe it on the blackbuntu
[01:56] <erreur> any help pleaaaaaaaaaaz
[01:56] <k1l_> erreur: blackbuntu is not supported here. we dont know what they changed. so better ask the blackbuntu support
[01:57] <erreur> wher i can finde it ?
[01:57] <k1l_> erm, i think they mention a irc channel on another irc-network on their page.
[01:58] <ezrafree> is there any easy way to just reinstall all of my X window system? it's hosed and the computer won't boot into X... I currently have like gnome/compiz, if that matters any...
[01:58] <jessejames> Good evening everyone
[01:59] <erreur> helooo
[01:59] <ezrafree> or any way to do a clean dist-upgrade or something? i'd really love to get my box running again
[01:59] <jjgalvez__> looking for help with the RTL-8185 wireless card, it recently (yesterday or today) started working very very slowly. Not sure how to troubleshoot it
[01:59] <ezrafree> jjgalvez__: are you in close proximity to other houses/apartments/buildings?
[02:00] <ezrafree> jjgalvez__: could it be a matter of channel interference?
[02:00] <jjgalvez__> ezrafree: no more then it used to be, also other wireless computers in the same area seem to be working just fine
[02:01] <ezrafree> jjgalvez__: yes, but.. the other networks can change which channel they run on at any time
[02:01] <ezrafree> there are programs which can scan wifi channels, not sure of any offhand for linux though
[02:02] <jessejames> Hi, Linux newbi here, can anyone tell me who to beef up my security on Linux so I can protect myself online ?
[02:02] <rrva__> jessejames: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security
[02:03] <jjgalvez__> ezrafree: I am on channel 11, the only other network on channel 11 shows up at 29% signal strength. The other networks around me are on channels 6, and a couple on 1. suggest any specific channel I should try?
[02:03] <jessejames> thanks rrva
[02:03] <ezrafree> jjgalvez__: the only suggestion is "the least used channel possible"
[02:04] <ezrafree> jjgalvez__: but it sounds like you diagnosed the channels already, so i guess that's not the issue
[02:04] <ezrafree> jessejames: protect yourself from anything in particular?
[02:04] <jjgalvez__> ezrafree: worth a try, I'll give it a try and report back
[02:05] <micmic> ciao
[02:06] <jessejames> hey ravv you there still ?
[02:06] <mcsx3> Good Evening! Everyone. Can anybody here helpme with a little prob? thx. I'm trying to use a ZTE MF180 broadband G3 USB dongle on Unbuntu 12.10. I've found on the Web some solutions, but noone has worked.
[02:07] <ezrafree> jessejames: nope they left
[02:07] <jessejames> ok thanks, can u give me some advice ezrafree ?
[02:07] <ezrafree> jessejames: possibly, what's the question (never ask to ask, etc.)
[02:08] <jessejames> lol thanks
[02:08] <ezrafree> np
[02:09] <jessejames> I'm a looking to increase the security on my system for privacy online etc
[02:10] <BlueFuel> I am configuring Squid3 on Ubuntu 12.04.01
[02:10] <BlueFuel> If I have to enable NTML, do i need to Ubuntu Server to Windows Domain?
[02:12] <mega1> i want to add a user with a home dir in the drive sda6
[02:13] <ezrafree> jessejames: that's not very specific, have you tried googling things like "how to secure ubuntu" yet?
[02:15] <ezrafree> jessejames: that said, some of the usual ways of securing a box (whether server or desktop) would include firewalling, intrusion protection, things like that
[02:15] <jessejames> Yes I have but I'm new to linux so I was looking for someone more experienced to advise me
[02:20] <Tex_Nick> !virus | jessejames
[02:20] <mega1> i want to add a user with a home dir in the drive sda6
[02:20] <chiques_> Are there any recorded key logger malware instances for historical Ubuntu versions?
[02:21] <jessejames> Yes i'm aware of that but can other users hack my pc from online ?
[02:21] <jessejames> @tex_nick
[02:21] <ikonia> chiques_: ubuntu has not been released with key loggers or malware
[02:21] <Tex_Nick> jessejames : as far as online privacy ... bout the only thing you might worry about would be browser cookies used to track you
[02:22] <Klinx> chiques_, nope, nothing
[02:22] <jessejames> hmmm so there is notting to worry about ?
[02:22] <chiques_> ikonia, I'm referring to any "trojan" or "hijacking" type of programs for the intent of stealing a users' log information.
[02:22] <Klinx> altough there IS still a possibility, if the main server got compromised.
[02:23] <ikonia> chiques_: there is nothing been released as part of ubuntu, of course these programs exist
[02:23] <Tex_Nick> jessejames : well at the present time ... linux is practically the safest OS on the market
[02:23] <jessejames> really waw, thanks tex_nick
[02:24] <chiques_> ikonia, I understand this is not part of the Ubuntu release but I'm just curious of these attempts are caught by the Ubuntu developers
[02:24] <ikonia> chiques_: well, seeing as the ubuntu developers have control over what they release.....there has not been anything, because they control what is released.
[02:24] <Tex_Nick> jessejames : you're welcome
[02:25] <chiques_> ikonia, so who addresses security holes?
[02:25] <jessejames> how do you message me directly by the way ?
[02:25] <ikonia> chiques_: either the ubuntu team or the package upstream team, depending on where/what the issue is
[02:25] <NeoColossus1020_> Is there a way to pass multiple commands to apt-get? Ex: sudo apt-get -y autoclean, autoremove; instead of doing sudo apt-get autoclean; sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:28] <chiques_> ikonia, How does this security team know what to patch?
[02:28] <ikonia> security alerts
[02:29] <ikonia> chiques_: is there something your trying to resolve/understand here /
[02:29] <mega1> in ubuntu server12.04 how do i add a user with home dir on another partition
[02:30] <ikonia> mega1: -d /where/you/want/home
[02:31] <nards> hello
[02:31] <mega1> will it create the folder for me
[02:32] <ikonia> mega1: -m will create,
[02:32] <Tex_Nick> jessejames : to chat privately with someone , depending on what client you use ... right click on their nick and choose "Open Dialog Window" or similar ... it's usually considered proper protocol to ask first though ... if that was what you were asking
[02:32] <chiques_> ikonia, I'm just wondering where the stop gap or the alarm is sounded when applications coming from Ukrainian or Chinese sources (like in Windows).
[02:32] <ikonia> chiques_: it doesn't work like that
[02:32] <chiques_> ikonia, Referrring to the book Worm
[02:33] <ikonia> chiques_: those applications coming from china/ukrain don't work the same way as on windows platforms
[02:33] <ikonia> they are not a concern
[02:33] <jessejames> Tex_Nick  :   <----------how do you get my name like that in the chat window
[02:35] <kashkraft> Hello World!
[02:35] <kashkraft> I'm attempting to compile a driver in Ubuntu for the Nexus 7
[02:36] <kashkraft> and Kconfig has warped my mind into mush
[02:36] <Tex_Nick> you can type a few letters of the persons nick, then hit tab ... that would do jessejames, though ... i backspace and then add the colon ... don't know why i do it  .. funny you ask ;-)
[02:36] <ikonia> got a real problem ?
[02:36] <ikonia> rather than some rambling about your mind being mush
[02:36] <kashkraft> When I compile, I'm receiving undefined variable warnings, but the variables should be defined from Kconfig, at least the file appears to define them.
[02:37] <ikonia> kashkraft: may not be defined in a reference
[02:38] <kashkraft> This is my first time sifting through source to debug a compile error. I spent hours googling yesterday. So, with that out of the way...
[02:38] <kashkraft> Does Makefile automatically find Kconfig?
[02:38] <ikonia> why do you keep going on about kconfig ?
[02:39] <jessejames> Tex_Nick, lol
[02:39] <kashkraft> Because it's the only place I know of to look. Like I said, I'm new to debugging source code compile errors. It's the only file that has the lines to define the variables that are throwing warnings.
[02:40] <ikonia> kashkraft: I'd suggest taking this to the #ubuntu-arm channel with people who are using the nexus platform with ubuntu to see if there are known/common errors
[02:40] <Tex_Nick> jessejames : tis hard to teach an old dog new tricks ;-)
[02:41] <ikonia> Tex_Nick: you appear to be having a private conversation with jessejames in public
[02:41] <ikonia> Tex_Nick: can you please take it to your private message window
[02:41] <kashkraft> This is a known error that I'm trying to sort out. I'm looking for an explanation of Kconfig so I can understand what's happening. It is a known issue listed.
[02:41] <ikonia> kashkraft: if it's a known error, what is the solution
[02:41] <m_> Hi! People
[02:41] <m_> can anybody help me with a little prob?
[02:41] <kashkraft> There's not one, that's why I'm attempting to find one :)
[02:41] <jessejames> Tex_Nick, true that
[02:42] <Tex_Nick> ikonia : i hear you ... we'll chill out
[02:43] <jessejames> by the way i'm using pinguy os, I get this boot option at start up with options to log into the system in  safe mode etc, dose anyone know how to disable it ?
[02:44] <ikonia> jessejames: use the pinguy os support resources please
[02:44] <ikonia> jessejames: we only support ubuntu here
[02:44] <m_> Good Evening! Everyone. Can anybody here helpme with a little prob? thx. I'm trying to use a ZTE MF180 broadband G3 USB dongle on Unbuntu 12.10. I've found on the Web some solutions, but noone has worked.
[02:44] <jessejames> pinguy os is ubuntu :(
[02:44] <ikonia> jessejames: no, it's not, it's based off ubuntu
[02:44] <bazhang> jessejames, no its not. its not supported here
[02:45] <jessejames> hmmm really
[02:45] <bazhang> try #pinguyos jessejames
[02:45] <jessejames> what about ultimate edition it's not ubuntu either ?
[02:46] <bazhang> jessejames, correct its not supported here either
[02:47] <jessejames> damm i need to remove this os then
[02:47] <jessejames> thanks for clearing that up for me guys
[02:47] <Beast> I used to compile firefox 6 years ago in 20 minutes tops. The same computer is now taking more than an hour. Is this normal? Has Firefox gotten that bloated??
[02:47] <jessejames> bye
[02:47] <m_> Good Evening! Everyone. Can anybody here helpme with a little prob? thx. I'm trying to use a ZTE MF180 broadband G3 USB dongle on Unbuntu 12.10. I've found on the Web some solutions, but noone has worked.
[02:49] <kashkraft> Good evening gentlemen. I'm attempting to compile the BCM4330 driver from source on Ubuntu and running into undefined variable warnings. This is a known issue (https://code.google.com/p/bcmon/issues/detail?id=8) that I'm attempting to fix. I'm new to compiling source code, however from tracing the variables they should be defined through the file Kconfig. My first question (apologies, I did Google): does Makefile automatically load Kconfig? It has the
[02:49] <kashkraft> calls (CONFIG_BCM4330), but the variables are left undefined. Any help or education is greatly appreciated :)
[02:49] <Beast> Makes me wonder what I'm compiling.
[02:52] <Tex_Nick> m_ : you need to be more specific with your question
[02:52] <HowdyDoody> On / I have /boot with new 12.10 stuff in it.    And /dev/sda1  has my main boots stuff on it but 12.04 is latest there.  It will be mount on /boot when I am done.  I've copied the contents of /boot to /dev/sda1, but I know there is more to do yet.  --------   I need to fix grub on /dev/sda1 to utilize the new stuff copied from /boot.  Not sure how to tackle that.
[02:54] <subcool> whats the deal with chrome? Flash is supposed to be stock.
[02:54] <subcool> why is facebook telling me i HAVE to update?
[02:55] <mega1> ok so i would use adduser mega1 -d /dev/sda6/mega1 -m mega1
[02:56] <SonikkuAmerica> HowdyDoody: Did you try boot-repair? That might put a bootloader entry where you need it
[02:56] <SonikkuAmerica> [ sudo apt-get install boot-repair ]
[02:56] <HowdyDoody> ok, I will try it.
[02:56] <Beast> .
[02:57] <subcool> whats a good linux video editor? my iphone rotated all my videos 90degrees counter clockwise :/
[02:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Beast: ?
[02:57] <mega1> well that did not work
[02:58] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: Openshot
[02:58] <Beast> SonikkuAmerica: just a typo
[02:58] <SonikkuAmerica> k
[02:58] <SonikkuAmerica> !u | SonikkuAmerica
[02:58] <NeoColossus1020_>  Is there a way to pass multiple commands to apt-get? Ex: sudo apt-get -y (autoclean && autoremove); that way I don't have to do: sudo apt-get -y autoclean; sudo apt-get -y autoremove
[02:58] <Beast> lol
[02:59] <subcool> SonikkuAmerica, thank you..
[02:59] <SonikkuAmerica> NeoColossus1020_: Put an && as follows, for example, to perform that function:
[03:00] <SonikkuAmerica> [ sudo apt-get -y autoclean && sudo apt-get -y autoremove ]
[03:00] <Tex_Nick> subcool : ffmpeg has been a standard for years ... i think it's deprecated now though ... you can still install it though ... this isn't the channel for that sort of thing rhough :)
[03:00] <HowdyDoody> SonikkuAmerica: Strange,  --> E: Unable to locate package boot-repair      Tire a _      E: Unable to locate package boot_repair
[03:01] <subcool> Tex_Nick, thanks - just looking for a reference
[03:01] <NeoColossus1020_> So there's no way to pass both parameters (auto-clean && autoremove) to the same apt-get command?
[03:01] <subcool> i am curious about the flash thing..
[03:01] <n0hx> anyone know how to install intel HD 3000 drivers in ubuntu?
[03:01] <SonikkuAmerica> HowdyDoody: Oops, try this:
[03:01] <Muphrid> n0hx: they are installed in the xserver-xorg-video-intel package by default
[03:02] <n0hx> okay great thanks
[03:02] <SonikkuAmerica> HowdyDoody: [ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair ], then [ sudo apt-get update ] and install boot-repair again
[03:02] <HowdyDoody> ok
[03:02] <phssssssssss> does the latetst ubuntu come with tv viewer app ?
[03:03] <ikonia> there are tv viewing applications in the repo
[03:03] <Muphrid> phssssssssss: freetux is one of them
[03:03] <phssssssssss> those old one won't work
[03:03] <ikonia> phssssssssss: what do you mean, they won't work. They work fine
[03:04] <phssssssssss> they don't work with philips chip turner
[03:04] <machicola> anyone know how to make screen brightness changes permanent? using Ubuntu 12.10 w/gnome fallback X windows
[03:05] <subcool> i have to be the only person who doesnt know why flash has to be updated on crhome..
[03:05] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: "Security issues"
[03:05] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: At least that's what they cite, lol
[03:06] <subcool> SonikkuAmerica, ugh- ok. than why is it complaining that i have to update it, isnt i automatic?
[03:06] <subcool> its stock with chrome...
[03:06] <subcool> i left chromium for that reason.
[03:07] <dr_willis> could be the update is not in the repos yet.
[03:07] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: Lubuntu I'm guessing?
[03:07] <Tex_Nick> subcool ... the "software center" recommends using avconv from the libav-tools package instead of ffmpeg
[03:07] <subcool> kubuntu SonikkuAmerica
[03:07] <subcool> Tex_Nick, thanks. ill wiggle it- if i have to, ill just go back to my XP machine. :/
[03:07] <subcool> i havent had much luck with media editing on linux
[03:08] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: Interesting, stock with Chrome but not Rekonq -- but anyway dr_willis is probably onto something.
[03:08] <Transhumanist> I am trying to PXE boot Ubuntu 12.10 desktop and Xubuntu 12.10 desktop on my Toshiba Portege M200. Both load the graphical installer, but once I get to the "check you're plugged into power and the Internet then click continue" part, clicking continue makes the installer hang there. I can quit it and boot into the live CD, but that's all.
[03:08] <Transhumanist> Any thoughts?
[03:09] <Tex_Nick> subcool : ffmpeg is still a powerful tool ... runs on windoze & linux
[03:09] <subcool> SonikkuAmerica, i remember reading that Chrome has it stock, and chromium it doesnt.
[03:09] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: Chrome has Flash stock, yes. I misunderstood.
[03:10] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: I'm not too sure myself. I dumped Ubuntu entirely for Windoze Ate some time ago.
[03:11] <subcool> lol - i have win8
[03:11] <subcool> its ok.
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: And of course I have no qualms for autoupdating Flash.
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: On 8 that is
[03:11] <srwood> Transhumanist  You installing 64 bit or 32?
[03:11] <subcool> im really getting tired of these stupid updates
[03:11] <HowdyDoody> SonikkuAmerica: boot-repair is now asking for [dmraid] to be installed.   I do NOT have any raid disks.   I do have lvm2, though.
[03:11] <Transhumanist> srwood: 32bit
[03:11] <SonikkuAmerica> HowdyDoody: I would suggest booting from a Live CD then
[03:12] <subcool> SonikkuAmerica, im not having much luck with avconv on apt- but.. like i said. im about ot just goto win. i have having ot configure EVERYTHING for somethig so simple.
[03:12] <srwood> Hmm  I've had probs with 64 on my toshiba but 32 works great.
[03:12] <subcool> like updating flash.. :/
[03:12] <Transhumanist> I'm downloading the alternate installer now - maybe it's due to a lack of RAM (only 512 mb)
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> subcool: Same reason I dumped Ubuntu. Still, Linux (especially 64-bit) is tough to tailor to specific needs. But it's always been like that
[03:13] <srwood> yikes.  I have 6 gigs/
[03:13] <dr_willis> not really had any flash issues here on 64bit.. other then the smurf syndrome
[03:13] <ikonia> 64 bit is not tough at all
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: The ... smurf syndrome?
[03:13] <Transhumanist> Windows 8 was a nightmare for me
[03:13] <dr_willis> not had any issues i could blame on 64bit either
[03:13] <srwood> driver issues on 64
[03:13] <ikonia> windows has nothing to do with this channel
[03:13] <Transhumanist> I've had things run pretty much flawlessly on all my Ubuntu installs
[03:14] <dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica:  blue people in videos
[03:14] <srwood> hardware dependent
[03:14] <WeThePeople> can somebody check their .ICEauthority to see if it is set to 0600 and not 0644
[03:14] <SonikkuAmerica> ikonia: More for me in particular... just upgraded from 32- to 64-
[03:14] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: lol
[03:14] <ikonia> SonikkuAmerica: you can't upgrade from 32 to 64
[03:14] <ikonia> SonikkuAmerica: you need to do a clean install
[03:14] <SonikkuAmerica> ikonia: That's what I did. *facepalms* Oops
[03:15] <SonikkuAmerica> ikonia: I clean installed 64
[03:15] <SonikkuAmerica> To me 64 bits seems like a new can of worms to rot, but I digress
[03:15] <Transhumanist> I'd just like to note that I installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my girlfriend's laptop after she had problem after problem with Windows 7 and poor performance, and she now loves Ubuntu. ;)
[03:16] <dr_willis> new? its been around for several years
[03:16] <ikonia> SonikkuAmerica: it's exactly the same techniques as 32bit
[03:16] <Transhumanist> eh, there's nothing wrong with 64-bit Ubuntu mate
[03:16] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: Well yeah, new to me (I had this 32-bit dino from like 2001)
[03:16] <dr_willis> i think linux 64bit is older then windows 64bit by some time also.
[03:17] <dr_willis> i basically only use 64bit ubuntu. with few issues.
[03:17] <n0hx> so im having sound issues in firefox, like music players won't play, any ideas what that could be?
[03:17] <ikonia> there are specific hardware vendors that will not release 64bit closed source drivers, this is a very small group
[03:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Transhumanist: Ubuntu love, eh? lol But that's weird with the installer hanging.
[03:17] <dr_willis> and none i can blame on the 64bit part
[03:17] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: I personally fared better with 32
[03:18] <wad> Okay, I give up. Can someone clue me how to tell Chromium to run applets?
[03:18] <Transhumanist> The installer hanging on my 2004 era laptop with various broken parts and 512mb of RAM when the installer requirs 1.5 times that? Not weird at all. I thought I'd ask if anybody had some tips though. :)
[03:18] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: They don't run at all? They should
[03:18] <dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica:  but you sayd you havent used 64bit m uch.. ;) i have
[03:18] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: *facepalms* What kind? CWS? Java? ...
[03:19] <wad> Java applets, sorry. I just realized that it's probably because Chromium can't find my version of java (which I installed manually). Any idea how to tell Chromium where my java is?
[03:19] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: I've done both versions of Ubuntu (both hard install and Wubi) and 32 performed better than 64, I think however the reasons are obvious.
[03:19] <SonikkuAmerica> dr_willis: Such as: Core 2
[03:20] <cheebu> hi all... happy new year!!!... I have a Radeon HD 6470M Graphics card are there drivers for it on ubuntu
[03:20] <cheebu> 12.04
[03:20] <Transhumanist> But 64-bit architectures are DIFFERENT to 32-bit ones. To run 32-bit stuff on 64-bit machines requires workarounds. It always has. Do a quick google search for problems running 32-bit applications on 64-bit Windows and you might realise attacking Linux for 32-bit apps not always running flawlessly on 64-bit distros is kind of... STUPID.
[03:20] <Transhumanist> happy new year cheebu :)
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Transhumanist: I've always gotten 64-bit stuff for 64
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> and 32 for 23
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> O.o
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> *32
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> 23-bit machinery... not even once.
[03:22] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: Can you find a Java plugin in CWS?
[03:22] <wad> CWS?
[03:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Chrome Web Store, sorry
[03:23] <wad> ah
[03:23] <wad> Well, I need to run a specific version of Java.
[03:23] <SonikkuAmerica> (That would be akin to christening Google Play Store GPS! lol)
[03:23]  * wad is currently looking around in menus
[03:23] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: Hmmm...
[03:24]  * SonikkuAmerica is currently Googling
[03:24] <wad> me too
[03:24] <wad> :)
[03:25] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: Might I ask why you need a specific version? Why not just have the most recent OpenJDK or Java at the ready?
[03:26] <wad> That's a good question. I write stuff in Java, so I need to have control over which version of Java I have on my laptop.
[03:26] <wad> I have four versions installed, with a symbolic link to choose which one I want to use.
[03:26] <SonikkuAmerica> One second...
[03:27] <wad> I'm writing a java web application right now, and it's going to need an applet in it. I haven't bothered to configure chromium to run applets yet.
[03:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Does OpenJDK have all the older versions packed into it or do they need to be installed 1 by 1?
[03:27] <SonikkuAmerica> (Public question)
[03:27]  * wad nods
[03:28] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: OK, so we need Chromium to reference the correct version...
[03:28] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: Does [ ln -s ] work at all?
[03:28] <wad> Yes. Ideally, I would just create a symbolic link from my java to some directory... yes
[03:28] <wad> There is a /opt/google/
[03:29] <wad> I just don't know which directory to link the right .so file into. I've tried four different ones; none work.
[03:29] <wad> I guess I could try diving the source of Chromium... ;)
[03:30] <SonikkuAmerica> I would assume using [ ln -s ] to change the link for /usr/bin/java/ &-or /usr/lib/java/ would work (not sure)
[03:30] <SonikkuAmerica> *or openjdk if you have that
[03:30] <wad> That would work.
[03:31] <wad> How does Chromium know where to find java?
[03:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Give it a shot
[03:31] <wad> This is a mystery.
[03:31] <wad> I'll try it. Maybe it will just find it there in the expected location.
[03:31] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: I'm thinking it defaults to /usr/bin/java or /usr/bin/openjdk but...
[03:32] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: A note of warning, though...
[03:32] <mega1> i dont want a user too see any other folder than there home folder when using ftp
[03:33] <wad> heh
[03:34] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: In other words, you don't want to share those folders
[03:34] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[03:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Other than /home/<whoever>/
[03:34] <mega1> i think so
[03:34] <mega1> yes but only for that user
[03:34] <fungoat> Anybody know of an easy way to wipe a drive, including LVM data, from the Live CD/USB?
[03:35] <MoL0ToV> also i was unable to share a single folder
[03:35] <fungoat> Trying to install over the top of Fedora 17.
[03:35] <MoL0ToV> via nautilus
[03:35] <MoL0ToV> don't work
[03:35] <SonikkuAmerica> fungoat: Smash it with a hammer. lol. Seriously, use gparted
[03:36] <SonikkuAmerica> GParted should take care of it if you select the drive and say "Erase"
[03:36] <MoL0ToV> fungoat: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M
[03:36] <Sling> gparted doesn't really wipe, it will just fiddle with the partition map
[03:36] <MoL0ToV> for about 30 sec, then ctrl+c
[03:36] <ikonia> fungoat: you should have to to nothing, just make sure you tell the installer to format the partition at install time
[03:36] <ikonia> MoL0ToV: there is zero need for that
[03:36] <fungoat> SonikkuAmerica: Tried. No dice.
[03:36] <Sling> use dban if you want to wipe
[03:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Odd, GParted didn't work... Well, every program has its limits
[03:37] <fungoat> ikonia: I wish. I get I/O errors during the install when going that route.
[03:37] <MoL0ToV> i love dd :D
[03:37] <MoL0ToV> and also the led of hard disk always on
[03:37] <ikonia> fungoat: ok, that suggests there is more of a problem
[03:37] <MoL0ToV> for a while
[03:37] <MoL0ToV> what windows is unable to do
[03:37] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1:
[03:37] <mega1> how do i do that
[03:37] <ikonia> MoL0ToV: please try to offer real help, than help based on you liking an LED blinking
[03:37] <MoL0ToV> :)
[03:38] <Sling> MoL0ToV: windows can do that fine, what are you going on about
[03:38] <MoL0ToV> ikonia i use dd to wipe disk, is the surely way
[03:38] <mega1> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[03:38] <MoL0ToV> more safer
[03:38] <Sling> MoL0ToV: depends on what you mean with 'wipe'
[03:38] <ikonia> MoL0ToV: he's not asking to "wipe a disk"
[03:38] <ikonia> MoL0ToV: he's trying to install ubuntu over the partition layout created by fedora
 Anybody know of an easy way to wipe a drive, including LVM data, from the Live CD/USB?
[03:39] <MoL0ToV> the question is clear.
[03:39] <ikonia> I missed that part, apologies
[03:39] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Run [ sudo gedit /etc/vsftpd.conf ] in a terminal and add this: [ chroot_list_enable=YES ] and [ chroot_list_file=/etc/vsftpd.chroot_list ]
[03:39] <ikonia> you need to use gksudo - not sudo for gedit
[03:40] <Transhumanist> MoL0ToV: why did you choose bs=2M, out of curiousity?
[03:40] <SonikkuAmerica> ikonia: I had no problems from a GUI, but you're right if it's not a GUI
[03:40] <ikonia> SonikkuAmerica: if it's a gui app - you need to use gksudo - not sudo
[03:40] <SonikkuAmerica> So yes mega1: [ gksudo ] not just [ sudo ]
[03:40] <MoL0ToV> Transfusion, to use caching, if you don't specify reads 512byte blocks that is very slow than read 2M at time
[03:41] <subcool> Just realizing- so how the hell do i fix the flash for Chrome?
[03:41] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Then [ gksudo gedit /etc/vsftpd.chroot_list ] and restrict the users you wish.
[03:41] <Transhumanist> righto :)
[03:41] <litropy> Hi, all. I've got a standard apache2 installation on Ubuntu. I accedentally chowned the www dir, and I need to chown it back to what it was. What was it originally?
[03:41] <fungoat> MoL0ToV: How long should the dd procedure take?
[03:42] <MoL0ToV> you notice this when datapiping to netcat to do remote raw images
[03:42] <Transhumanist> depends on drive size, fungoat
[03:42] <fungoat> 256GB SSD
[03:42] <Transhumanist> maybe a few minutes if it's a few hundred gig
[03:42] <subcool> Tex_Nick, thanks for the info - but it didnt work out. ffmpeg is depreciated, avconv is- a pain- atleast to install, I tried openshot- doesnt support it.. and now im using avidemux, but i keeps messing up the sound.
[03:42] <Transhumanist> it won't give you any status updates until dd completes
[03:42] <fungoat> Transhumanist: Is there a verbose option?
[03:42] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Or to limit all users, just uncomment [ chroot_local_user=YES ] in the /etc/vsftpd.conf file.
[03:43] <MoL0ToV> fungoat, yes, but if you want merely delete partitions lvm and have a ready disk for a new install, you can simply run dd for 30 secs, then CTRL+C
[03:43] <Transhumanist> http://linux.die.net/man/1/dd
[03:43] <MoL0ToV> wothout blanking ENTIRELY the disk with zeroes
[03:44] <fungoat> Thank you Transhumanist and MoL0ToV. Wish me luck…
[03:44] <MoL0ToV> is waste of time if the data on the disk is not sensible data
[03:44] <psusi> fungoat, if you get IO errors then your drive is probably broke... check the SMART status in the disk utility
[03:44] <Tex_Nick> subcool : if you want we could go to private chat ... i would be glad to help you with ffmpeg ... it will do more than you can imangine ;)
[03:45] <litropy> Is anyone here running apache2?
[03:45] <subcool> i tried to laod it, and it said to use avconv. im going to bed now anyways- thanks. it wsa just to edit something funny for my friend. But now facebook wont even let me upload it, so f. it
[03:45] <psusi> fungoat, you also don't want to go writing all over an SSD.. writes wear them out
[03:45] <Transhumanist> fungoat: why are you doing it this way?
[03:45] <fungoat> psusi: I'm hoping not.
[03:45] <Transhumanist> do you just want to erase the partition to make news ones or install a new OS?
[03:46] <Transhumanist> if so, use GParted erase instead.
[03:46] <litropy> ActionParsnip, You'll probably know: by default, what owner is assigned to www in apache2? I chowned it accidentally.
[03:46] <jjgalvez__> ezrafree: Thanks for the advice on changing my wifi channel, that did the trick, now my speed it back to normal. Really odd most of the channels give me horrible but I found one that works great!
[03:46] <Tex_Nick> subcool : ok
[03:46] <MoL0ToV> good night people!
[03:46] <fungoat> Transfusion: Yes. Exekept the LVMs from Fedora won't go away. Even with GParted.
[03:46] <Transhumanist> righto
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> Litropy:   root:www    maybe......
[03:46] <Transhumanist> odd
[03:46] <psusi> fungoat, what do you mean they won't go away?
[03:47] <Jordan_U> fungoat: wipefs might remove the stale LVM signatures, though they shouldn't generally cause problems. What problem are you actually having?
[03:47] <MoL0ToV> a question: in gnome2, gnome panel, etc... howto enable normal windows scroller? the one present, that appears only rollover, is frustrating me...
[03:47] <fungoat> psusi: They cannot be wiped in GParted or Fedora's Disks utility.
[03:48] <psusi> fungoat, gparted can delete them just fine
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> Jjgalvez__: there are lines you can add to /etc/sysctl.conf   to make it a little faster by using more RAM as cache
[03:48] <somsip> litropy: www-data is the usual owner of the apache2 process, and /var/www is chown root:www-data
[03:48] <fungoat> psusi: Unfortunately, not the case here.
[03:49] <psusi> fungoat, you'll have to be more specific
[03:49] <jjgalvez__> ActionParsnip: do you know of a good tutorial, the ones I've read are really confusing
[03:49] <MoL0ToV> dd destroy everything, try it more simple and linear
[03:49] <psusi> dd also wears out the ssd
[03:49] <Sling> you dont want the webcontent to be owned by www-data or by root
[03:49] <n0hx> i just discovered tails
[03:49] <n0hx> so cool
[03:49] <Sling> use a separate user for that
[03:50] <MoL0ToV> don't wear the ssd for a single pass.. of only 30 seconds :)
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> Jjgalvez__: http://db.tt/8g8vppc7    add those lines to the file. Works well on my 2Gb RAM system
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> N0hx: as in the Sega character?
[03:52] <jjgalvez__> ActionParsnip: Thanks I'll give those a try
[03:52] <MoL0ToV> Timing buffered disk reads: 350 MB in  3.02 seconds = 115.87 MB/sec my ssd is so slow... the specs say 500Mbyte/s..
[03:52] <Transhumanist> SSD lifetime is huge these days anyway
[03:53] <MoL0ToV> i can try to enable ahci instead ide in bios? is more faster?
[03:53] <psusi> ahci is better, whether it is faster or not you'll have to see
[03:54] <MoL0ToV> a question: in gnome2, gnome panel, etc... howto enable normal windows scroller? the one present, that appears only rollover, is frustrating me...
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> MolL0tov: use hdparm to check dma is enabled and so forth
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> Mol0tov: didn't know lucid had overlay scrollbars...
[03:55] <goddard> how should i format my hard drive with a fresh install it is 1TB
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> Goddard: for only Ubuntu?
[03:56] <psusi> goddard, you'll have to be more specific
[03:56] <MoL0ToV> DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6
[03:56] <MoL0ToV> udma6 is possible that is a brake for my ssd disk?
[03:57] <MoL0ToV> ActionParsnip, i use quantal
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> Goddard: for me, 20gb / ext4. 1.1xRAM for swap ( I assume 2gb RAM or greater) and the rest s ext4 for /home
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> Mol0Tov: gnome2 isn't in any of Quantal
[03:59] <MoL0ToV> who are called... gnome2 mode... backward? i don't remember
[03:59] <MoL0ToV> when you select gnome2 classic in gdm
[04:00] <litropy> somsip, I'm not familiar with the syntax. root is the owner and www-dta is the group?
[04:00] <litropy> www-data*
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> Mol0tov: Quantal uses gnome 3. You can install gnome-panel and get something like the old style session
[04:00] <MoL0ToV> exatly
[04:00] <Graymayre> can someone assist me with installing ubuntu 32 thru windows, it wants to automatically install 64
[04:01] <MoL0ToV> there i have a disgusting rollover windows scrolling bars
[04:01] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip : that's interesting ... do you segregate /home for backuo or ???
[04:01] <somsip> litropy: that's right
[04:01] <MoL0ToV> ActionParsnip,  i set the crux theme, but the bars classic of crux don't appears
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> Tex_nick: yes, backup as well as easy reinstall
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> Mol0tov: www.liberiangeek.net/2012/03/disable-ubuntu-overlay-scrollbars-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[04:02] <MoL0ToV> thanks
[04:02] <Fonsie> i have a question about duel boot installation, can anybody please help
[04:02] <Graymayre> what about it
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> Mol0Tov: amazing what a quick websearch brings up huh....
[04:03] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip : hey thanks for that ... i've done it the hard way for years :(
[04:03] <MoL0ToV> surely a menu config item to disable... to associate at this command is needed.. my grandfather scream if i say to him to open terminal and place this command :D
[04:03] <Graymayre> dual boot isnt manual anymore, it sets up automatically now
[04:04] <Fonsie> i tried installing by downloading to portable hard drive and set it to boot from it and nothing happened
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> Tex_nick: I also shove my web cache in tempfs for speed :-). Its good for SSDs too, fewer writes with worthless data
[04:04] <Fonsie> it just signed me into my windows
[04:04] <Graymayre> what are you running from internal?
[04:05] <Fonsie> i have it booting from usb portable hard drive
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> Molo0tov: maybe, but its sometimes easier to give a command users can copy snd paste too. Both ways have merit
[04:05] <Graymayre> but is your MBR on your external drive?
[04:05] <Fonsie> mbr?
[04:05] <Graymayre> when you installed it, were you running another OS on a hard drive located internally?
[04:06] <Fonsie> my main OS is windows 7 and it is on internal hdd
[04:06] <Graymayre> thats why
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> Mol0Tov: you can run dconf-settings and do it manually if you want, or you can just run the command
[04:06] <Fonsie> seperate from external drive
[04:06] <MoL0ToV> ActionParsnip, i tryed to logout and login but overlay scrollbars still here
[04:06] <Graymayre> MBR (master boot record)
[04:06] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip : ok ... i luv that ... gotta reconfigure this box now ... thanks for the tip
[04:06] <Graymayre> it is loaded in the 100 meg partition on the front of your windows 7 drive
[04:07] <litropy> somsip, thx I'm all set.
[04:07] <Fonsie> the website said i can install from portable hdd or disk
[04:07] <Graymayre> yes, as long as it is configured to have its own boot record
[04:07] <Graymayre> in that case, have you configured your bios to boot from it yet>?
[04:07] <Fonsie> and i set it to boot from portable usb hdd and it just signs into windows anyways
[04:08] <Graymayre> have you disconnected your internal drive?
[04:08] <Fonsie> i put my usb hdd #1 on boot list
[04:08] <Fonsie> and no i have not
[04:08] <Graymayre> keep in mind, default setting is to boot in an order, your internal drive by default comes first
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> Tex_nick: I use a symlink from ~/.config/google-chrome to /run/google-chrome   I have commands in /etc/rc.local to recreate the folder and chown it each boot
[04:08] <Graymayre> alright, disconnect it and try again
[04:08] <Fonsie> yeah, i set it to boot from portable and did nothing
[04:09] <somsip> litropy: cool. But that was just answering your question. As others have said, there may be security issues around using default permissions, but that's a different matter
[04:09] <kujablak> hi, I've got two partitions / and /home and I want to switch from 10.10 to kubuntu 12.10
[04:09] <Graymayre> what kind of computer
[04:09] <Fonsie> gateway netbook running windows7
[04:09] <Graymayre> I have an issue where the bios wont load USB or 1394 ports on my laptop
[04:09] <litropy> somsip, thx for the heads up.
[04:09] <arch> oes anyone need help?
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> Mol0tov: if you like the old style session,  why not just use XFCE, you can run all your Gnome applications there without issue
[04:09] <Noskcaj> juggalonaut1, type /j #ubuntu-quality
[04:10] <Graymayre> it is possible that it cant because the bios wont initialize those ports until an OS loads
[04:10] <kujablak> arch, I'd like to know how to make an inventory of all the softwares I installed so I can upgrade
[04:10] <MoL0ToV> ActionParsnip, i try it
[04:10] <Graymayre> but of course, being a netbook it should be able to because it has no internal cd rom drive to do installs from
[04:10] <Fonsie> so what do i need to do?
[04:10] <MoL0ToV> are available also compix in xfce? and effects?
[04:11] <Graymayre> google booting from USB on your particular model of netbook
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> Mol0Tov: you only need the xfce4 package,  then log off and log in to the xfce session
[04:11] <Fonsie> i think i downloaded the wrong file to hdd, i just tried opening it and it says its a file to be burned to a disk and asks me to select a burner
[04:11] <Graymayre> ah
[04:11] <Graymayre> probably so
[04:12] <Graymayre> you will have to do an actual install to it
[04:12] <Graymayre> you cant just copy files
[04:12] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  whats the filea name?
[04:12] <Fonsie> can you link a clean download?
[04:12] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip : you see a significant performance with that ??? ... BTW haven't seen you in a while ... hope you had a great holiday :-)
[04:12] <Fonsie> ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64
[04:12] <Graymayre> just go to the ubuntu download site
[04:13] <Graymayre> it will give you an ISO image
[04:13] <Graymayre> you will have to burn it to disk
[04:13] <Graymayre> and then install from that disk
[04:13] <Graymayre> OR
[04:13] <Fonsie> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=64&distro=desktop&status=zeroc
[04:13] <Fonsie> that is the url for the page i downloaded from
[04:13] <Graymayre> hold on, brb
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> Tex_nick: thanks. You too :-), its slightly faster. No point going through RAM and to the storage,  waste of time. Eeb cache isnt really needed nowadays.
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> Geaymayre: you forgit MD5 testing
[04:14] <Graymayre> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
[04:14] <Graymayre> do boot from USB stick
[04:14] <Fonsie> i did
[04:14] <Graymayre> install it like the external drive is a USB stick
[04:14] <Fonsie> and it goes straight to windows
[04:15] <Fonsie> it lists the brand and everything of my hdd
[04:15] <Fonsie> it is #1 on my boot list
[04:15] <Graymayre> what kind of external drive interface are you using?
[04:15] <Graymayre> brand i mean
[04:15] <dr_willis> if you dont see a grub menu, then its either booting the wrong hd. or you put grub on the wrong mbr
[04:15] <Fonsie> Western Digital
[04:16] <Graymayre> it may require driver support, which is not recognized by the bios
[04:16] <Graymayre> it will still recognize it and list it
[04:16] <Graymayre> but not more than that
[04:17] <Fonsie> can you confirm that is the correct file to have on the hdd when i boot from it
[04:17] <MoL0ToV> lightdm support multiple session like gdm? (kde,fce,gnome-classic, gnome3) or no?
[04:17] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  how did you install to the usb?
[04:17] <dr_willis> MoL0ToV:  it does
[04:17] <Fonsie> i didnt just copied the file i downloaded from the site to it
[04:18] <MoL0ToV> preload deamon is suggested to speedup system? why is not installed by default on ubuntu?
[04:18] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  err.. you did it wrong then.. whats on the usb now? just a big ubuntu.iso ?
[04:18] <Fonsie> ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64
[04:18] <Fonsie> that is the file that i copied to it
[04:18] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  you did it wrong then
[04:18] <Graymayre> you have to use the linux universal usb installer
[04:18] <dr_willis> you use a tool to properly make a bootable usb drive
[04:19] <Graymayre> and load the iso in it and let it do its work
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> Fonsie: how did you "copy" it?
[04:19] <Fonsie> dragged it
[04:19] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  you did it wrong then...
[04:19] <Graymayre> lol
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> Fonsie: grab a copy of unetbootin
[04:19] <dr_willis> ;)
[04:19] <MoL0ToV> openoffice start in 1 sec with preload daemon! sound great! :)
[04:19] <Graymayre> alright, you got him, can someone assist me with something?
[04:20] <Fonsie> so what exactly am i downloading and doing?
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> Fonsie: simply copying and pasting is not going to work, you need software to set it up right
[04:20] <Graymayre> I need to load 32 bit ubuntu instead of 64, the windows isntaller automatically installs 64
[04:20] <dr_willis> you put the iso on your hard drive. delete it from the usb. use a TOOL from pendrivelinux website to make a bootable usb disk from the iso
[04:21] <Graymayre> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/#button
[04:21] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  a tool such as unetbootin, or others
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> Fonsie: unetbootin,  use that. Point it to the ISO you downloadd, ensure the correct drive letter is set to transfr to as well as persistence if it is needed
[04:22] <Fonsie> ok, thank you
[04:23] <Graymayre> ok, ill try a different route than the windows installer, I need to make my USB stick bootable, but for the 32 bit installer instead.  I need to burn the iso directly to it and make it bootable
[04:23] <dr_willis> you can image the iso to the usb and it should be bootable
[04:24] <Graymayre> with what tool
[04:24] <PoorCollegeGuy> Graymayre, use unetbootin
[04:24] <MoL0ToV> xfce is beautiful. i migrate all 200 pc in my domain! :)
[04:24] <PoorCollegeGuy> "burns" the iso to a usb stick to install
[04:24] <Graymayre> i dont want to install ubuntu on it, just the installer
[04:24] <dr_willis> dd, or ohther win imageing tools , of you dont want to go the unetbootin type route
[04:24] <Transhumanist> Graymayre: no, the windows installer does NOT automatically instal 64 bit Ubuntu
[04:24] <dr_willis> the windows installer = wubi
[04:24] <Transhumanist> I've used that Windows installer dozens of times to setup a 32bit live USB
[04:24] <Graymayre> it did for me
[04:25] <Graymayre> it didnt offer me the option
[04:25] <Transhumanist> Are you asking Universal USB installer to download the ISO for you, or are you supplying it yourself?
[04:25] <Graymayre> i have the 32 bit 12.10 iso
[04:25] <Fonsie> ok, another question....my windows is 64bit, should i put 64 or 32bit ubuntu on it?
[04:25] <Graymayre> need to install it on my secondary drive
[04:25] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  i use 64bit os on 64bit hardware
[04:25] <Transhumanist> and when you open universal  USb installer, what's the first option you get to choose?
[04:26] <Transhumanist> the drop down box of different distros?
[04:26] <PoorCollegeGuy> Graymayre, unetbootin turns it into a bootable usb drive, but once you boot into it, there is an option to install linux on the computer itself
[04:26] <PoorCollegeGuy> i just did it to my laptop an hour ago
[04:26] <Graymayre> i have to go with 32 bit because of my wireless stick
[04:26] <rd4> can I use script modify the network-manager static ip address infomation?
[04:26] <Graymayre> >Fonsie
[04:26] <Transhumanist> yeah that's fine. 32-bit is fine.
[04:26] <Graymayre> i owuld use 64 if i could, and i have been but without wireless support
[04:27] <Graymayre> linksys AE2500 if anyone is familiar with my issue
[04:27] <Graymayre> but ok, unetbootin it is
[04:28] <fungoat> Anyone else have issues with 12.10 not recognizing an Intel HD3000 chip (Lenovo X201)?
[04:28] <fward> I was wondering if someone might help me with something. I connected a ubuntu desktop to a windows domain. Afterward the terminal window does not show PS1 and terminal window shortcuts are not functioning. I am using bash for the shell
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Graymayre: if its a usb wifi stick then just buy one kniwn to work, they are cheap
[04:28] <Transhumanist> fward: once off or recurrs upon restart?
[04:29] <ikonia> fward: does the prompt show "noname"
[04:29] <rd4> ok.I find the ansert at  /NetworkManager/system-connection
[04:29] <dr_willis> fward:  try 'echo $SHELL'  to be sure. try sourceing your .profile and .bashrc files
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Fward: what if you run:  source ~/.bashrc      is anything output?
[04:30] <Fonsie> does my portable have to be formatted in order to install iso to it?
[04:30] <fward> it shows $ only at shell. I echoed $SHELL and it is reporting /bin/bash it happens while logged in. After I login to local account all goes back to normal
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> Fonsie: yes
[04:30] <fward> So I am guessing it is a local config file, but I am unsure where the settings for the terminal shortcuts are kept
[04:31] <Fonsie> and how much space do i need?
[04:31] <ikonia> fward: I suspect your domain is setting the home directory wrong so there is no bashrc/bash_profile/profile to source
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> Fonsie 800mb. You can use the remaining space for persistence
[04:32] <fward> hm, yeah forgot about that. so set that manually and all should be good to go. I will try it, ikonia.
[04:32] <Graymayre> just out of cursiosity, the windows installer, what does it mean by "install size"?
 just out of cursiosity, the windows installer, what does it mean by "install size"?
[04:34] <Transhumanist> Huuuh? Could you show me where you downloaded it?
[04:34] <Transhumanist> Oh, you mean Wubi?
[04:34] <Transhumanist> So you want to install Ubuntu on top of your Windows partition instead of to its own partition?
[04:34] <Graymayre> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[04:34] <Graymayre> yes
[04:34] <Graymayre> NO
[04:34] <Graymayre> lol
[04:34] <Transhumanist> That's Wubi
[04:35] <Transhumanist> do you want to install Ubuntu on its own partition or not?
[04:35] <Graymayre> i already installed it on a separate drive
[04:35] <Graymayre> its done
[04:35] <Graymayre> my question was about the "install size" selection
[04:35] <Transhumanist> Wubi isn't what you want. That Windows installer isn't what you want. It's something rather different and less stable.
[04:35] <PoorCollegeGuy> doesn't it cap the ubuntu download at 40GB too?
[04:35] <PoorCollegeGuy> 40GB = useless
[04:35] <Graymayre> 30
[04:36] <Graymayre> but anyway
[04:36] <Transhumanist> My Ubuntu install is usually 15gb or so. 40 gb is plenty if you have another HD
[04:36] <Graymayre> what are the different install sizes for?
[04:36] <Graymayre> what does it add or cut out?
[04:36] <Transhumanist> Stop using that, Graymayre
[04:36] <Transhumanist> it's not for you
[04:36] <Graymayre> im not
[04:36] <Transhumanist> oh ok
[04:36] <Transhumanist> well it's just capped at 30gb for the Wubi install
[04:36] <Graymayre> im using a USB stick now installine 32 bit instead because of issues with a wireless adapter
[04:36] <Transhumanist> presumably due to performance or stability reasons
[04:37] <usr13> Graymayre: So how much free space do you have?
[04:37] <Graymayre> just compatibility with a specific piece of hardware
[04:37] <Graymayre> 3 TB :P
[04:37] <Transhumanist> Wubi installs Ubuntu on an ext filesystem on TOP of an NTFS file system, whilst keeping whatever was already on the NTFS file system intact
[04:37] <usr13> Graymayre: What you want is suggestion for partition(s) size for your install?  Right?
[04:37] <Graymayre> i absolutely wouldnt do that
[04:38] <Graymayre> i am using a separate 250 GB hdd
[04:38] <usr13> Graymayre: 8G for swap,  30G for /  and the rest for /home
[04:38] <Transhumanist> depends on your RAM size
[04:38] <Graymayre> i have 4 drives, 2 win7 (32/64) win2k or xp soon, and ubuntu for the last
[04:38] <Transhumanist> you may not need such a large swap
[04:39] <Graymayre> well i will leave on default options
[04:39] <usr13> Graymayre: How much RAM do you have?
[04:39] <Graymayre> 4
[04:39] <Graymayre> dell xps 720, old but decked
[04:39] <Transhumanist> 8GB sounds good then yeah :)
[04:39] <usr13> Graymayre: 4 or 5G for swap is ok.
[04:39] <Transhumanist> I'd choose 8GB so I could hibernate
[04:39] <usr13> Graymayre: 8 even better... Yes
[04:39] <Graymayre> i am a linux noob, what is swap, is that like ram?  or pagefile in windows?
[04:40] <Transhumanist> yeah, like pagefile on Windows
[04:40] <iBurley> like a pagefile
[04:40] <Graymayre> gotcha, hard ram
[04:40] <Ailos> why is the driver version in the software centre older than the driver on the manufacturer site?
[04:40] <Graymayre> alright i am learning something :)
[04:40] <usr13> Graymayre: "virtual memory" in "MS-Windows" speak is what it amounts to,.
[04:40] <Graymayre> right
[04:40] <Graymayre> old win2k server admin here
[04:40] <Transhumanist> Ailos: software centre versions are stable and vetted. But they may not be the latest version for that reason
[04:40] <usr13> !swap | Graymayre
[04:40] <Graymayre> complete n00b here
[04:41] <Ailos> they are more stable than Nvidias current version?
[04:41] <Graymayre> gotcha
[04:41] <iBurley> So I have a problem in Ubuntu, specifically in TeamSpeak, I can't set my side buttons as push to talk, or anything else, but they still take me forward and backwards in my browser. Any way to fix that?
[04:41] <Transhumanist> maybe. or the guy maintaining it is just lazy
[04:41] <usr13> Graymayre: That's ok.  You've come to the right place.  Plenty of info here.
[04:41] <Graymayre> alright, anyone familiar with the linksys AE2500 wireless USB stick compatibility issues?
[04:41] <Ailos> alright, ill try the centres version
[04:42] <Transhumanist> Ailos: yeah when it comes to drivers, it's usually not laziness but performance and stability that the reason the version might be older in the repo
[04:42] <Graymayre> nice big 13 page thread on it and I am a monkey in a nuclear lab
[04:42] <Transhumanist> Graymayre: so what've you done so far? Have you used Universal USB Creator or Unetbootin to create a USB boot drive for Ubuntu 12.10 32-bit?
[04:43] <Ailos> ok, thank you
[04:43] <Graymayre> unet
[04:43] <Transhumanist> And did it install properly?
[04:43] <Graymayre> this will be easy from here
[04:43] <Graymayre> yes, to the usb
[04:43] <Graymayre> i am currently using the computer tho
[04:43] <Transhumanist> Does it boot?
[04:43] <Transhumanist> ah ok
[04:43] <Graymayre> i need to get irc on my phone
[04:43] <Transhumanist> haha
[04:43] <Graymayre> recommendations?
[04:44] <nalidixic> Hi All. I have an Ubuntu install I'm using to play around with some hobby projects. My understanding with mysql is that I should be using mysqld_safe to run the server however when I reboot my Ubuntu install mysqld starts. How can I change that?
[04:44] <arch> nalidixic
[04:44] <Transhumanist> When you were in 64-bit Ubuntu with the broken wireless radio, did you check for a proprietary driver to use?
[04:44] <Transhumanist> Maybe that would've fixed it.
[04:44] <Graymayre> check this out regarding that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1805830
[04:44] <Graymayre> no proprietary driver
[04:45] <arch> wow
[04:45] <arch> n00buntu
[04:45] <Graymayre> none to date
[04:45] <Graymayre> yepper
[04:45] <Graymayre> u nailed it arch
[04:45] <Ailos> so uh, the Installing Packages window is just solid gray instead of installing my driver, thats probably not a good thing?
[04:45] <Transhumanist> That's an 11 page thread, man. What specifically did you want me to look at?
[04:46] <Graymayre> sorry mate, i have looked at it for a while and got very little out of it
[04:46] <Graymayre> check out page 4
[04:46] <Transhumanist> Ailos: wait a few minutes, if nothing happens, restart and try again. That's what I'd do. Or find the package name and use apt-get instead (I prefer this)
[04:46] <Graymayre> nvm, let me find it and lik
[04:46] <Graymayre> link
[04:46] <Ailos> alright, ill be patient
[04:47] <Transhumanist> Garymayre: a lot of hardware is very closed-source and proprietary and the manufacturers don't like Linux. So sometimes it's just a case of buying from better companies. Doesn't always help when you have existing hardware that you want to use though.
[04:47] <Graymayre> exactly
[04:48] <Graymayre> and little to no extra money to get something compatible
[04:48] <Tex_Nick> nalidixic : if you don't get an answer here ... you might try #mysql & #httpd
[04:48] <usr13> Graymayre: You know that thread is a couple years old.  Right?
[04:49] <Graymayre> im just going to try from step one on 32 bit and see if ndiswrapper will solve the issue on it
[04:49] <Graymayre> yes
[04:49] <Graymayre> a year
[04:49] <Graymayre> BUT
[04:49] <usr13> Graymayre: Is a wireless card your issue?
[04:49] <Graymayre> if you go to the most recent posts it is just starting form the beginning again and rehashing
[04:49] <Graymayre> it is, USB wireless stick
[04:49] <iBurley> Does Ubuntu have problems recognizing side mouse buttons?
[04:49] <Transhumanist> So Graymayre, when you install 32-bit Ubuntu, be sure to check the proprietary drivers list in the software sources section of the system preferences
[04:50] <Transhumanist> you might have a driver listed for your wireless radio after all
[04:50] <Graymayre> alright
[04:50] <usr13> Graymayre: Is it in now?
[04:50] <Graymayre> (thats what she said)
[04:50] <Graymayre> but no, still on the computer im talking to you on
[04:50] <Graymayre> oh, the stick, yes
[04:50] <Graymayre> but im on windows 7
[04:50] <usr13> Graymayre: And you are booted to MS Windows?
[04:51] <Graymayre> yep
[04:51] <usr13> Graymayre: Just do the install and see what happens.
[04:51] <Graymayre> i didnt know how to check proprietary drivers before
[04:51] <Graymayre> should i try it with the 64 bit version first?
[04:51] <Graymayre> see if it actually is there?
[04:52] <usr13> Graymayre: I would use 32bit
[04:52] <Transhumanist> just go with 64-bit
[04:52] <Transhumanist> you've only got 4gb of RAM anyway
[04:52] <usr13> Graymayre: There is not much in the way of specific advice we can give because we don't know much about the hardware yet.
[04:53] <Transhumanist> *32-bit
[04:53] <Transhumanist> I mean go with 32-bit
[04:53] <Graymayre> alright
[04:53] <Graymayre> anyone play eve?
[04:53] <Transhumanist> Does it run on Linux?
[04:54] <Graymayre> lol lemme check
[04:54] <Transhumanist> (Natively)
[04:54] <Graymayre> http://support.eveonline.com/pages/kb/article.aspx?id=499
[04:54] <Ailos> so Installing Packages window vanished with no other prompts. did the driver install?
[04:55] <Graymayre> so i guess not
[04:55] <nalidixic> Tex_Nick: thanks
[04:55] <Transhumanist> Ailos: go back to the package in software centre and see if it says "installed" or not
[04:56] <Ailos> ah yes
[04:56] <Graymayre> IRC for linux so i can get back in here after im in it?
[04:56] <Ailos> its a hraphics driver. do i need a reboot?
[04:56] <Graymayre> just check it in apps or something?
[04:56] <Tex_Nick> nalidixic : those two channels are more specific to your question ... good luck :)
[04:57] <Graymayre> eh, ill find it, o7 guys
[05:01] <iBurley> Anybody here use TeamSpeak on Ubuntu?
[05:01] <iBurley> I'm having trouble setting my side buttons on my mouse as push to talk
[05:03] <machicola> nyone know of an app the adds a touchpad enable/disable hotkey?
[05:04] <machicola> i used to used to used touchpad-indicator which doesn't seem to be available anymore
[05:04] <machicola> there were two on ubuntu software center listing, first one doesn't have settings for a hotkey enable/disable &
[05:05] <machicola> second one is 325megs
[05:05] <machicola> which seems like a lot for that
[05:05] <dr_willis> or its for kde...
[05:05] <dr_willis> ;)
[05:06] <dr_willis> if you knew the cli commands to enable/disable you could make your own
[05:09] <Tex_Nick> machicola : have a look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/65951/how-to-disable-touchpad ... i found a great link a week or so ago for that, trying to relocate it
[05:10] <rd4> I can't chane    the   /etc/NetworkManager/connection          so I can't change ip address throught vi  ? anybody can help me?
[05:10] <machicola> wow, awesome link... thanks Tex_Nick
[05:11] <machicola> did not know about xinput list
[05:11] <Ailos> after installing my nvidia driver, window borders and text is almost twice as big, but resolution is correct. How do i change it?
[05:13] <Tex_Nick> machicola : you're welcome ... hope it helps ... if not, there was a more specific link i found a while back
[05:14] <Ailos> although, maybe its for the best
[05:14] <Ailos> is there a way to check if my video driver is properly installed?
[05:15] <MeanEYE> Ailos: Starting nvidia-settings will tell you if nvidia driver is being used.
[05:15] <Gyro54> What is wrong with this as an entry in fstab - //<IP_ADDRESS>/kkcdata /mnt/p_drive cifs Kevin,password=new,iocharset=utf8,mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[05:16] <MeanEYE> Ailos: Also, lsmod | grep nvidia should show if driver is loaded by kernel.
[05:16] <Ailos> nvidia x server settings?
[05:16] <MeanEYE> Ailos: that's the command name: nvidia-settings. Basically it's nVidia's control panel.
[05:16] <Ailos> and running that command outputs:
[05:16] <Ailos> nvidia              10236405  42
[05:17] <MeanEYE> Gyro54: What's the problem?
[05:17] <Ailos> alright
[05:17] <MeanEYE> Gyro54: you are probably missing user=Kevin instead of just Kevin.
[05:17] <Gyro54> MeanEYE:  This works manually  - sudo mount -t cifs //<IP_ADDRESS>/kkcdata /mnt/p_drive -o username=Kevin,password=new
[05:18] <Gyro54> MeanEYE: Is that all it is?
[05:18] <MeanEYE> Gyro54: Am not sure. Check /var/log/error.log. You should be able to get more info from there.
[05:19] <MeanEYE> Sorry /var/log/syslog
[05:19] <Gyro54> MeanEYE: Thanks for your help.  That will be problem.
[05:20] <DJJeff> gpio_ich: failed to claim resource 0 http://pastie.org/5618577 should I be worried about this?
[05:20] <MeanEYE> Gyro54: Did that fixed it?
[05:24] <Gyro54> MeanEYE: That works fine. Thanks for that. Sometimes it is the most simple things
[05:25] <MeanEYE> Gyro54: ... Yeah. Also -o part should be identical to what comes after cifs. :)
[05:28] <Gyro54> MeanEYE: I will add that to the line. Thanks
[05:28] <Fonsie> can anybody help me, im trying to install ubuntu to portable usb hdd to boot from to install to windows but wont let me
[05:29] <MeanEYE> Gyro54: no need. Am just explaining how fstab works.
[05:29] <Fonsie> im trying to use unetbootin and keeps saying there isnt a flash drive there
[05:29] <Fonsie> when there is
[05:29] <MeanEYE> Fonsie: unetbootin requires super user. Did you run it with sudo?
[05:29] <Fonsie> huh?
[05:30] <MeanEYE> Fonsie: Oh, sorry. From which OS are you running unetbootin?
[05:30] <Gyro54> MeanEYE: OK
[05:30] <Fonsie> windows 7
[05:31] <MeanEYE> Fonsie: You need to reformat your USB stick to FAT32. Currently it's probably NTFS.
[05:32] <Fonsie> already did that
[05:34] <MeanEYE> Hm, that's strange.
[05:35] <MeanEYE> So you are sure USB is FAT32?
[05:36] <Fonsie> it was ntfs and it told me to make sure it was formatted to fat32 so i did and it still isnt showing up
[05:37] <MeanEYE> You did remove and connect drive again right. Sorry for asking stupid questions, it just seems strange.
[05:37] <Fonsie> i actually had to reformat it on a different pc because the driver to reformat it to fat32 only runs on xp
[05:37] <Fonsie> so yes
[05:38] <MeanEYE> Hm, that's even stranger. Win7 has FAT32 support as most memory cards use that file system.
[05:39] <MeanEYE> Am stumped here. Perhaps someone else has some ideas.
[05:41] <aged> please can someone suggest where i can find a downlaod that will fit on cd thanks
[05:41] <dr_willis> aged:  try  lubuntu, or 12.04 ubuntu
[05:41] <dr_willis> i think lubuntu 12.10 fits on cd
[05:41] <Fonsie> what is another program to install to usb besides unetbootin?
[05:42] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  dozen at the pendrivelinux site
[05:42] <aged> wanted to try the new version out before buying a new laptop as it will influence decsion#
[05:42] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  or use an imageing tool to image the iso straight to the  usb
[05:42] <Aldryk> Can anyone help with re-installing grub after cloning ubuntu partition from one (dying) machine to another?
[05:43] <madc|SPYnX> i'm using Ubuntu 12.10 what is the repository of gns3 so i can download the latest version
[05:43] <dr_willis> Aldryk:  a live cd and thet boot-repair tool would be what i would try first
[05:43] <dr_willis> !ppa
[05:43] <Aldryk> So, Rescutax is not a good option?
[05:44] <dr_willis> Aldryk:  no idea.
[05:44] <dr_willis> never heard of it
[05:44] <Aldryk> Whats the boot-repair tool then?
[05:44] <dr_willis> its  in the repos and mentioned at the.....
[05:44] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[05:44] <Aldryk> I think its from the same source as "Super-Grub Disk"
[05:44] <xangua> !info gns3 | madc|SPYnX
[05:45] <Amanda2013> i'm finally rich
[05:45] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: Glad to hear that.
[05:45] <aged> got old laptop here and it has cd only and wanted to try it out before igave mr gates some money for windows eight  rrather spend it on a laptop without microsoft rubbish
[05:45] <Amanda2013> but on to da shit what is get-apt for adobe flash
[05:45] <dr_willis> windows 8 on an old laptop? thats sort of scary
[05:46] <aged> do they do a lite version of 12/10
[05:46] <MeanEYE> aged: What seems to be the problem?
[05:46] <Amanda2013> i just ditched win 7 45 mins ago
[05:46] <Amanda2013> lol
[05:46] <Amanda2013> for 12.04
[05:47] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: Google Chrome comes with flash, so you don't need to install it separately. If you are Firefox fan, then you need to install flashplugin-downloader.
[05:47] <aged> meaneye 12 10 doesnt fit on a cd
[05:48] <dr_willis> aged:  lubuntu 12.10 might. then you install ubuntu-desktop package
[05:48] <MeanEYE> aged: It will fit on DVD, or USB drive.
[05:48] <aged> yep but dont have any of them
[05:50] <Amanda2013> i'm smoking on da gas like citgo
[05:50] <aged> just wondered if there was a lite version of it
[05:50] <dr_willis> aged:  none ive seen
[05:51] <aged> so it look like the choice is windows xp then
[05:51] <tonyr2k8> aged, does your laptop currently have windows on it?
[05:51] <dr_willis> aged:  or...... 3rd time...    lubuntu 12.10 might. then you install ubuntu-desktop package
[05:52] <dr_willis> or just use 12.04   because an old laptop might not support pae either.
[05:52] <Aldryk> I'm downloading the boot-repair disk now..any idea if it'll work on a system where the grub configuration doesn't exist at all?
[05:52] <aged> no itwas given to me to get me started to learn about pcs at freinds at moment he said try this irc thingy and ask
[05:52] <MeanEYE> aged: Ubuntu 12.04 is CD sized. You can upgrade to 12.10 after you install it.
[05:53] <Aldryk> That is, the grub (stage 2?) cofiguration was for the old machine with its old HDD, now the ubuntu partition is installed to an altogether different partition on a different disk.
[05:53] <dr_willis> aged:  whatas your cpu on the thing, how old is it?
[05:54] <Fonsie> what should i set my persistent file size to?
[05:54] <MeanEYE> Fonsie: You don't need it if you don't plan on running Ubuntu from USB
[05:54] <dr_willis> Fonsie:  if you just want to install, you dont need one.
[05:54] <Amanda2013> how to install python
[05:54] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: Python is already installed.
[05:54] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  its installed by default
[05:54] <Amanda2013> i need 2.7
[05:55] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: it is.
[05:55] <Amanda2013> ok
[05:55] <dr_willis> !info python
[05:55] <aged> think it a 1.5 celeron with 2gig of memory and 20gig hard drive 14 inch screen toshiba
[05:55] <liam> I ran sudo fsck.hfsplus -f on an external hdd and now it wont mount at all. Any ideas what this has done and how to fix it?
[05:55] <Amanda2013> what about GNU Make
[05:55] <dr_willis> aged:  if it dosent support pae in hardware. then you will need to use 12.04
[05:55] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  its in the repos
[05:56] <Amanda2013> no idea about repos such a n00b
[05:56] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: that means, open software center and search. :D Simple as that. It's available through few clicks.
[05:56] <Amanda2013> i try
[05:57] <dr_willis> !manual | Amanda2013
[05:58] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: if you need make... just run "sudo apt-get install make"
[05:58] <Amanda2013> ty again
[05:59] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: you are welcome. Repositories are software libraries Linux uses to install software. So you can just say what you need and chances are it's there.
[05:59] <ErdMutter> Is there a IRC channel for Ubuntu Desktop installed onto the Nexus 7?
[05:59] <aged> ok thinkl i will have to look at other makes and see what one i feel i can learn and isnt to difficult for a complete novice
[06:00] <MeanEYE> aged: You can download Ubuntu 12.04 here -> http://www.ubuntu.com/start-download?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts
[06:00] <Amanda2013> does it have jdk be dfalut
[06:00] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: It's not installed by default, but OpenJDK is available. Versions 1.6, 1.7 and 1.8
[06:01] <dr_willis> ErdMutter:  #ubuntu-arm  perhaps
[06:01] <Amanda2013> i need JDK 6 for building android
[06:01] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: You are using Eclipse?
[06:02] <Amanda2013> don't have it yet
[06:02] <MeanEYE> Will you use it?
[06:02] <foxy999> I can't set a password on an archive with archive manager in ubuntu, does anyone know any good software to do this?
[06:02] <Amanda2013> idk might have to
[06:02] <dr_willis> foxy999:  you could use the command line.
[06:02] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: Did you develop for Android so far?
[06:02] <Amanda2013> no
[06:02] <foxy999> dr_willis. what program?
[06:02] <Amanda2013> just trying to build android x86
[06:02] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: then my advice is to use Eclipse. It helps a lot.
[06:03] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: Is there are reason why you would build the whole android?
[06:03] <Amanda2013> to add ethernet support into 4.0.4
[06:03] <dr_willis> foxy999:  zip can do it.  or just encrypt the arcchive afterwards with pgp or somthing
[06:05] <Amanda2013> $ sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid partner" $ sudo apt-get update $ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[06:05] <dr_willis> !encrypt
[06:05] <Amanda2013> will that work
[06:06] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: no. It's Lucid. Old version of Ubuntu.
[06:06] <Amanda2013> ah
[06:06] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: You can build with OpenJDK, my advice check with Google... for example http://blog.markloiseau.com/2012/07/how-to-compile-android-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[06:06] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: you will need build-essential package to be installed. As that's compilers and other things.
[06:07] <jm3665> Hi everybody! ... I need some help :S
[06:07] <MeanEYE> jm3665: Shoot!
[06:07] <Amanda2013> needs a line of coke
[06:07] <foxy999> dr_willis, it still didn't work..
[06:07] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: that doesn't help with ethernet drivers.
[06:07] <foxy999> dr_willis, it accepts a password but doesn't prompt for one when I extract the files
[06:08] <dr_willis> i dont use the tools. so no idea foxy999
[06:08] <foxy999> I can't set a password on an archive with archive manager in ubuntu, does anyone know any good software to do this?
[06:08] <MeanEYE> foxy999: which archive?
[06:09] <foxy999> MeanEYE, .zip
[06:09] <Amanda2013> "but I found (later in the build process) that Android really needs to be built by Sun’s Java SDK MeanEYE ya link it says that at top
[06:09] <jm3665> I don't know why I can't install webapps on my ubuntu 12.04 :S
[06:10] <Amanda2013> found it nvm
[06:10] <dulio> jm3665, webapp?
[06:10] <MeanEYE> foxy999: Syntax is zip -P password -r archive.zip files
[06:10] <Amanda2013> ok still stuck
[06:11] <MeanEYE> Amanda2013: Hm, I've never built one. But I can help. http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[06:11] <MeanEYE> There's a document explaining how to install Oracle JDK
[06:11] <Tex_Nick> foxxy999 : for a tarball encryped file, have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1071398
[06:16] <aged> so ubuntu has now joined the club as bloat ware
[06:16] <MeanEYE> Depends what you consider bloatware :D
[06:17] <Tex_Nick> aged : it's only as bloated as you make it ;-)
[06:19] <komputes> aged: plus computers are way more powerful now, and theres always the choise to use gnome fallback, or xfce, lxde
[06:28] <Amanda2013> how do i add PATH=~/bin:$PATH to my path
[06:30] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  just make the bin dir, log out/back in
[06:31] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  it will auto do that
[06:31] <dr_willis> its a check in the .bashrc i belive
[06:31] <Amanda2013> wait i need /usr/bin
[06:31] <dr_willis>      /usr/bin is notmally in the path anyway
[06:32] <Amanda2013> how do i find .bashrc
[06:32] <dr_willis>  its in your home dir
[06:32] <Amanda2013> how do i show hidden files
[06:33] <IdleOne> ctrl+h
[06:33] <Tex_Nick> Amanda2013 : the dot preceding it means it's a hidden file though
[06:33] <dr_willis> i think you are going to have a lot of learning to do befor you recompile android....
[06:33] <dr_willis>  ls -a
[06:33] <dr_willis> a bash tutorial may be worth  reading soon.
[06:33] <WeThePeople> dr_willis, i get a unable to update .ICEauthority at boot, any suggestions
[06:34] <dr_willis> WeThePeople:  delete/rename it? ;)
[06:34] <dr_willis> ive seen .Xauthority get messed up.  but not sure what .ICEzuthority does
[06:36] <Amanda2013> ./usr/bin path not in .bashrc
[06:36] <dr_willis>   its in the default path i thought.
[06:36] <dr_willis>   echo $PATH
[06:37] <dr_willis>   and look
[06:37] <Amanda2013> weed@weed-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ echo $PATH /home/weed/bin:/home/weed/bin:
[06:38] <dr_willis> messed up your path.. open a new terminal
[06:38] <dr_willis> and try it there
[06:38] <Amanda2013> i did it  there
[06:38] <Amanda2013> echo $ path thingy
[06:39] <dr_willis> youve done somthing to change your path
[06:39] <dr_willis> thats not a system default path
[06:39] <Amanda2013> no just installed 2day
[06:39] <dr_willis> youve done somthing to change your path.....
[06:39] <Amanda2013> have not fucked with .bashrc
[06:39] <IdleOne> Amanda2013: No swearing in here please
[06:40] <dr_willis> dosent matter.. youve done somthing to your  path.     try a 'xterm -ls' perhaps and see what the path is there
[06:40] <cache_za> dont think bashrc was created on my install until i created it
[06:40] <dr_willis> or its .profile
[06:40] <dr_willis> im not on ubuntu to check
[06:41] <Amanda2013> not there ;(
[06:41] <dr_willis>   .profile, .bashrc and .bash_profile i recall
[06:42] <dr_willis> if you just do a 'export PATH=.......' incorectly it will goof up the path for that shell
[06:42] <dr_willis> and child processes
[06:42] <Amanda2013> is this right PATH=~/bin:$PATH
[06:42] <dr_willis> if you have not edited any  files, you should be able to log out/back in and get back to defaults
[06:43] <dr_willis> IF you hadent changed path befor that
[06:43] <dr_willis> but it looks like you did
[06:43] <Amanda2013> nah
[06:43] <Amanda2013> leeme reboot
[06:43] <dr_willis> just log out/back in
[06:44] <jm3665> Sorry, I'm back with this question :S
[06:44] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:44] <jm3665> I just tried several times to install this new feature ... webapps on my ubuntu 12.04 ... but I can't
[06:45] <jm3665> Can anyone give me some help ?
[06:45] <dr_willis> jm3665:  its a flakey feature in 12.04 and even in 12.10 i find it flakey
[06:45] <dr_willis> a neat idea that just dosent work well
[06:46] <dr_willis> then i realized how little it did when it did work
[06:46] <dr_willis> id rather the sites add a entry to the browser quicklists
[06:47] <jestan> lw346
[06:49] <cache_za> how do the webapps work anyway? a js app that opens in a dumbed down browser instance?
[06:49] <dr_willis> its like a browser window with no menu items last i tried it
[06:49] <Amanda2013> now what
[06:50] <jm3665> :) ... ok ... Just as I thought but ... I need to ask :D
[06:51] <c00kee> trying to run virtualbox on chrubuntu but im getting error message about linux kernel
[06:51] <dr_willis> chrubuntu? never heard of it.
[06:51] <c00kee> chromebook version of ubuntu
[06:51] <dr_willis> best to see their support forums/site/channel then
[06:51] <jm3665> thanks dr_willis
[06:52] <c00kee> need help locating it
[06:52] <Tex_Nick> Amanda2013 : still working on the path deal ? ... echo $PATH ... is it there now
[06:53] <dr_willis> there is a chrom-os pppackage thing for ubuntu ;)
[06:53] <Amanda2013>   /home/weed/bin:/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[06:53] <dr_willis> that looks more normal
[06:54] <dr_willis> never noticed lightdm in there befor
[06:54] <Amanda2013> stillmissing /usr
[06:54] <dr_willis> you have /usr/bin   just like you asked
[06:55] <Amanda2013> oh i do dang
[06:55] <dr_willis> and your users home/bin
[07:00] <Amanda2013> any body willing to teamview
[07:00] <Amanda2013> i still hava install
[07:02] <nwp> 05k7217
[07:02] <nwp> oops
[07:03] <nwp> !
[07:05] <nwp> I hate UIs that switch active input element on you while you're typing...
[07:05] <nwp> or the destination of that input
[07:09] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  whats the actual support question now?
[07:10] <Amanda2013> making a working dir
[07:10] <dr_willis> mkdir MyWorkingDir
[07:10] <Amanda2013> afk brb
[07:11] <Amanda2013> eh i don't know which folder to use or how to type ex:/1/2/3/4
[07:12] <dr_willis> i have no idea whay you are going on about
[07:13] <Amanda2013> coz i am dumb
[07:13] <Amanda2013> retard
[07:14]  * dr_willis was thinking 'vague'
[07:14] <Amanda2013> Thinking or communicating in an unfocused or imprecise way: "he had been vague about his activities"
[07:15] <Tex_Nick> Amanda2013 : dr_willis was instructing you how to create your working directory ... see if this helps you in your ubuntu exploits ... http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ubuntu-linux-shell-commands-quick-reference/
[07:15] <dr_willis> the ubuntu manual. and a bash tutorial or 3 ... would be a good starting point
[07:18] <susundberg> Good morning
[07:19] <CookieM> susundberg: hello
[07:22] <Tex_Nick> Amanda2013 : could i recommend some tutorials from youTube ... http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL465C6C735CEB7CBD
[07:23] <Tex_Nick> Amanda2013 : that guy has some pretty good introductory linux tutorials ... link i provided is about 50 bash tuts
[07:26] <Tex_Nick> Amanda2013 : and hey you're not dumb ... you're learning ... as we all should be :-)
[07:32] <Etyneo> Anyone know if there's a way to switch between active GPUs in an Intel/ATI hybrid setup yet?
[07:33] <b3nj> help
[07:33] <b3nj> help me
[07:34] <b3nj> i can't install lubuntu
[07:34] <b3nj> when i choose install lubuntu in the menu screen just turns off and pc freezes
[07:36] <b3nj> i can not install lubuntu, when i choose "install lubuntu" screen turns off and machine freezes
[07:37] <Tex_Nick> Amanda2013 : just remembered ... there is a girl on Hak5 that is learning linux ... as she learns she does a tutorial on what she has learned ... http://www.hak5.org
[07:38] <Nevin> Hello, anyone here that could help me for a moment?
[07:40] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : ask your question
[07:42] <Nevin> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.10. My system uses a UEFI bios, so I run the UEFI version from the USB stick. When I choose to install from the GNU GRUB interface, the screen changes to a blank black screen with a blinking cursor that eventually freezes up.
[07:43] <elfer> geh
[07:44] <laze1989> Etyneo: Depends. If you are using the OSS radeon drivers - only if you are having a muxed system. This means, you will have an option in your BIOS to change the active graphics card. If you have a muxless system, the OSS radeon drivers are not capable of switching, yet. If prime support majors, it will be available. But nevertheless, the drivers are not that good.
[07:44] <raj> how do I test if glib notifications are working?
[07:44] <Amanda2013> would anyone in here be willing to teamview meh
[07:45] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : is that on a windows 8 box that you want to dual boot
[07:45] <laze1989> Etyneo: If you are using fglrx (proprietary AMD drivers) you cannot use them with Ubuntu 12.10 out of the box (they are incompatible to Xorg 1.13, whats used in Ubuntu 12.10). But they are capable of switchting.
[07:45] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  teqmview for what reason?
[07:46] <Tex_Nick> !uefi | Nevin
[07:46] <Nevin> No, it is a custom PC. I have Windows 7 running on it.
[07:46] <Amanda2013> i cant get a working dir made correctly
[07:46] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  a working directory for what?
[07:46] <Etyneo> Actually, I've been experimenting with 12.04.1.
[07:47] <Amanda2013> "Create an empty directory to hold your working files."
[07:47] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  right click, make new direcory/folder.. or use the mkdir command
[07:47] <Etyneo> Also, its a muxless system.
[07:47] <dr_willis> Amanda2013:  'mkdir myworkdir'
[07:47] <kristof> Pardon me, esteemed gentlemen. Is there a command line utility I can use for controlling the master volume on pulseaudio?
[07:47] <kristof> I need a command I can map to a key.
[07:48] <Nevin> Ubottu: I have been following the steps in the URL that you linked. The GNU GRUB interface freezes after choosing to install Ubuntu shortly after this screen. http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347445084.png
[07:48] <laze1989> Etyneo: Then this thread will do the job for you (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930450).
[07:48] <SirClueless> hi all, I am having trouble with the fglrx driver
[07:48] <rd4> I want to know how to use sudo -S options,who knows?
[07:48] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : i'm running 12.10 on a custom build ... no problems here ... but the issue is hardware specific
[07:48] <kristof> Anyone?
[07:48] <KaiSforza> seriously, we're looking for pulse command line control.
[07:48] <kristof> Something like amixer, but amixer doesn't actually work with pulseaudio, I've noticed.
[07:49] <dr_willis> KaiSforza:   pavmixer perhaps or related tools
[07:49] <SirClueless> I cannot manage to get into Unity 3D, and unity_support_test tells me GLX is missing
[07:49] <kristof> dr_willis: Has to be noninteractive.
[07:49] <KaiSforza> dr_willis: wee kristof's comment.
[07:49] <KaiSforza> s/wee/see
[07:49] <dr_willis> kristof:  it may have cli commands in the same package
[07:49] <Etyneo> I was looking at that thread and can't use the OP as the packages he references are no longer available.
[07:49] <dr_willis> or cli options
[07:50] <Etyneo> It's Lao about 1 year old...
[07:50] <KaiSforza> dr_willis: doesn't amixer (alsa-tools, iirc) interface with alsa, not pulse?
[07:50] <dr_willis> isent there the xf86_volumeup/volumedown keys bound to somthing
[07:50] <Etyneo> Also... Darn autocorrect...
[07:50] <kristof> KaiSforza: According to the Ubuntu wiki, amixer.sh works.
[07:50] <KaiSforza> dr_willis: not using a DE.
[07:50] <KaiSforza> kristof: hmm.
[07:51] <Amanda2013> done
[07:51] <kristof> dr_willis: Can you check what they're bound to in your case?
[07:51] <Amanda2013> just found a back door
[07:51] <dr_willis> kristof:  im on my phone  ;)
[07:51] <Nevin> Tex_Nick: How did the GRUB interface respond when you chose to install Ubuntu 12.10? (Assuming you are also using a UEFI bios.)
[07:51] <kristof> dr_willis: Aaaah. I wish I had IRC on my phone, but alas, I use a shitberry.
[07:52] <kristof> Thank you anyway!
[07:52] <SirClueless> does anyone have any knowledge of fglrx, or supporting hybrid graphics in Ubuntu?
[07:52] <laze1989> Etyneo: You just need to download the newer drivers from amd http://support.amd.com/de/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[07:52] <SirClueless> because I can't even get 3D acceleration on my intel integrated card
[07:52] <dr_willis> hybrid is very much a 'foggy' area. sadly
[07:53] <SirClueless> dr_willis: I'd be happy to just disable the discrete card entirely
[07:53] <Ship> whats the general discussion channel
[07:53] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : i'm using an AMD ECS MoBo with UEFI, the MoBo was released from ECS about 8 month ago ... i had no problems at all
[07:53] <dr_willis> SirClueless:  that might be a setting in the bios
[07:53] <SirClueless> dr_willis: but as it is, I don't even get any 3D acceleration support
[07:53] <SirClueless> dr_willis: there isn't, my laptop is running AMD's version of this
[07:54] <dr_willis> i have no experience with hybrid gfx stuff.. dont plan on buying a laptop with it anytime soon either.
[07:54] <laze1989> Etyneo: Or use fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle (or fglrx-updates and fglrx-amdccle-updates). fglrx should be catalyst 12.4, dunno about updates packages).
[07:54] <laze1989> SirClueless: What is your graphics set up? Is it Intelel/AMD hybrid?
[07:54] <SirClueless> dr_willis: it's all a mess, I just want a basic laptop when I boot into Ubuntu
[07:55] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : the problem you're experiencing in not uncommon though ... the linux development team is working on a fix fast & hard
[07:55] <SirClueless> laze1989: yes, intel HD3000 and Radeon 7970M
[07:55] <laze1989> SirClueless: Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1930450. First post, step 2 " Enabling, fixing the bug for direct rendering on the integrated card"
[07:56] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : the issue is commonly reffered to as a "secure boot" issue
[07:56] <SirClueless> laze1989: from that link: "Warning: Works only for muxless systems."
[07:56] <SirClueless> laze1989: which I think is how mine is set up
[07:56] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : Oh ok. I have a ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 and I've been reading around that some people have gotten it to work fine for them, but it's different for me.
[07:57] <laze1989> SirClueless: Your system uses AMDs PowerXPress 4.0 or higher, which is muxless
[07:57] <SirClueless> laze1989: alright, I will give that a try, thanks for the pointer
[07:59] <laze1989> SirClueless: Hope you have installed fglrx already. If you are using Ubuntu 12.10, its not compatible with Xorg 1.13.
[08:00] <SirClueless> laze1989: I installed fglrx-updates on 12.04
[08:00] <laze1989> SirClueless: Then all will be fine.
[08:00] <madc|SPYnX> what is the sources.list of gns3 latest version in ubuntu12.10
[08:00] <dr_willis> madc|SPYnX:  if you need the latest. look for a Ppa for it
[08:01] <dr_willis> madc|SPYnX:  or use source.
[08:01] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : hey i just scrolled up to see your original post ... i installed 12.10 64 bit with a live sc
[08:01] <raj> notifications aren't working
[08:01] <Etyneo> I'll give fglrx-updates a try once I get back to my laptop...at work now, using my Thunderbolt...
[08:01] <raj> how can I check if glib notifications are working?
[08:02] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : i didn't bother with the uefi stuff
[08:02] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : What is the live sc mean? I'm still quite new to this. :)
[08:03] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : sorry, typo ... i meant cd
[08:03]  * Etyneo will never buy a laptop with a hybrid gfx setup again...and never again an HP.
[08:03] <madc|SPYnX> dr_willis, what is PPA?
[08:04] <Tex_Nick> Nevin ... you might see if your BIOS has a setting to disable "Secure Boot"
[08:04] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : I din't think it was possible to fit all of 12.10 on a CD. I do have some DVD's, would those make a difference? I figured the USB would be the same.
[08:05] <dr_willis> !ppa | madc|SPYnX
[08:05] <laze1989> Etyneo: Well. At the end it isnt soo bad. There are other things more worse.
[08:05] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : you're right it was a DVD ... i'm just used to the old CD term
[08:06] <SirClueless> laze1989: should I remove fglrx-updates and fglrx-amdcccle-updates before the dkpg step?
[08:06] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : I built my system, I wouldn't see why secure boot would be enabled. I thought that was somthing that came with retail OEM systems pre-installed with Windows8.
[08:07] <laze1989> SirClueless: If you have them already installed, you can leave that step and just do the 2nd step.
[08:07] <DrCode> hi all
[08:07] <DrCode> I am tying to make dd image from ext4, I can't mount it with -o loop, any idea?
[08:07] <Etyneo> I'm guessing that English isn't laze1989's first language...
[08:07] <laze1989> Etyneo: No. :)
[08:07] <SirClueless> laze1989: ooooh, so I just compiled unnecessarily
[08:07] <Wiz_KeeD> hello everyone
[08:08] <Wiz_KeeD> there's a server that i want to get ssh access to and it has restricted access per/ip
[08:08] <madc|SPYnX> !ppa | madc|SPYnX
[08:08] <Wiz_KeeD> so not having a dynamic ip i thought i can ssh to a server with a static ip and from thhat ssh to the server i need
[08:08] <DrCode> this is my part:                          Primary   Free Space                           1.05*
[08:08] <DrCode>     sda1        Boot        Primary   ext4
[08:08] <Wiz_KeeD> it just says wiz@dev:~$ ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[08:08] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : i can't really don't know ... i haven' built a windoze box in a couple years now ... i've been seeing a lot of problems relating to secure boot lately though
[08:08] <Wiz_KeeD> any ideeas? :(
[08:09] <madc|SPYnX> dr_willis, how to find ppa for gns3
[08:09] <amtron> #gaia
[08:09] <dr_willis> madc|SPYnX:  use that ppa search url the bot gave.
[08:09] <Etyneo> Any way around secure boot for those who want new hardware sans windows 8?
[08:10] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : I'll burn the ISO file to one of my spare DVD's and boot that up in UEFI. I read that 12.10 has support for UEFI, but it made it appear so easy. x)
[08:10] <SirClueless> laze1989: ok, thanks for the guidance, rebooting now to check if it worked
[08:10] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : what's your MoBo
[08:10] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : ASRock Z77 Extreme4
[08:10] <madc|SPYnX> dr_willis, what is the risk of using this ppa
[08:11] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone please?
[08:11] <dr_willis> madc|SPYnX:  no idea.  they are made by normal users..   and unsupported
[08:11] <dr_willis> that goes for any ppa
[08:12] <madc|SPYnX> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/whoopie79/ppa/ubuntu precise main
[08:12] <madc|SPYnX> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/whoopie79/ppa/ubuntu precise main
[08:12] <Tex_Nick> Nevin ... might be difference between amd & intel platform
[08:12] <madc|SPYnX> this goes to my sources.list right
[08:13] <Etyneo> Glad I got my laptop before Win8 and the secure boot bull...
[08:13] <dr_willis> madc|SPYnX:  no.. read the site and guide.. you normally done edit your sources.list these days
[08:13] <dr_willis> normally dont....
[08:13] <SirClueless> laze1989: hmmm, no luck, I followed those steps, still no 3D acceleration
[08:13] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : burn your ISO to DVD ... do a hash check first though ... try that
[08:14] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : My ISO is named "ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64." Does the amd64 means that it was built for AMD x64 bit processors and not Intel?
[08:14] <dr_willis> 64bit is for both
[08:14] <Etyneo> No
[08:14] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : YES ;-)
[08:15] <SirClueless> laze1989: worth mentioning? "sudo aticonfig --initial -f" reports "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected"
[08:15] <Etyneo> there were at least 2 forms of 64 bit architechture.
[08:15] <dr_willis> and the amd64 form is used by intel
[08:15] <Etyneo> Intel had one that flopped.
[08:15] <dr_willis> for the common desktop cpus
[08:16] <laze1989> SirClueless: Yea, thats worth mentioning.
[08:16] <Etyneo> then and came out with a better one that Intel adopted.
[08:16] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : My I had no idea... Is there a Intel 12.10 version?
[08:16] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : it's an x86 platform
[08:16] <Etyneo> amd...darn autocorrext
[08:16] <dr_willis> Nevin:  us 64bit works for both
[08:16] <SirClueless> laze1989: any idea what is going on?
[08:17] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : the x86 archetucture is all the same ...
[08:17] <dr_willis> Nevin:  theres an obscure/rare intel 64bit variant that you most likely will never see. ;)
[08:17] <dr_willis> common intel 64bit cpus are using amd64 extentions
[08:17] <SirClueless> laze1989: the 7970M is newer than any cards on the compatibility list at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Hardware
[08:17] <laze1989> SirClueless: Just googled the same result
[08:18] <Etyneo> My HP had one like that.
[08:18] <raj> how can I check if glib notifications are working?
[08:18] <Nevin> Tex_Nick & dr_willis : Ok, so maybe I should be using the x86 version instead of the amd64?
[08:18] <SirClueless> laze1989: actually, scratch that, it's actually covered by "All RadeonHD 7000-series (aka Southern Islands) chips" in the "Catalyst only" section
[08:18] <dr_willis> Nevin:  i doubt it... i said  common 64bit intel cpus use amd64...
[08:18] <laze1989> SirClueless: But there should be catalyst 13.1 coming this month (propably). Maybe there is support for that. Didnt knew that it is too new, sorry.
[08:18] <SirClueless> though none of them list xxxxM variants
[08:18] <Etyneo> Turns out it was a 6700M series that had been overclocked and relabeled.
[08:19] <SirClueless> laze1989: is there any way to just blacklist/disable the whole adapter?
[08:19] <dr_willis> Nevin:  its just called amd64 from old habbit
[08:19] <SirClueless> and make the computer appear to only have an Intel HD3000?
[08:19] <SirClueless> because that would be fine, I don't plan on playing intense games or anything
[08:19] <roryy> Hi - is SecureBoot supported on Ubuntu 12.10 32-bit as well as 64-bit?  Googling suggests 64-bit only, but I just want to test a live boot case on a potential new laptop - will the 32-bit version be OK for that?
[08:20] <Wiz_KeeD> Can anyone please help with ssh multihop? i'm reading this but it isn't of much help http://sshmenu.sourceforge.net/articles/transparent-mulithop.html
[08:20] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm getting ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[08:20] <Nevin> dr_willis : Oh ok. Well the disc burn is finished. I will try it out, hopefully it works.
[08:20] <laze1989> SirClueless: Well. There was something called acpi_shutdown. But I think it is not developed anymore. But you have to be aware, that this can cause problems.
[08:21] <Etyneo> SirClueless: You can do that. However, both GPUs will remain powered and drawing power, even though only one is in use.
[08:21] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : to the best of my knowledge dr_willis is right there ... amd64, is a standard x86 cpu archetucture build
[08:22] <Tex_Nick> Neniv ... give me a few minutes ... let me look at that
[08:22] <Etyneo> Nevin, unless you are using s
[08:22] <SirClueless> Etyneo: even though the ATI card is designed to be powered down when not in use?
[08:23] <Etyneo> Older hardware, amd64 will work for you if you have 64 bit hardware.
[08:23] <raj> how can I check if glib notifications are working?
[08:23]  * dr_willis dosent know what 'glib' notifications are
[08:23] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : hey if the burn is complete ... give it a try
[08:23] <dr_willis> try sending one. ;)
[08:23] <Casey> Hey guys. I am really frustrated at this point. I have been a long time Ubuntu user and I recently bought a new Windows 7 machine and for the life of me, I cannot get it to dual boot. To put it in a nutshell, I have installed Windows 7, then used a flash drive to install Ubuntu. Installation reports no errors, however, when I restart, grub does not appear. I have tried Easy BCD, Ubuntu secure remix, grub rescue tool, etc. No matter what I
[08:23] <Casey> do, grub will not install. At the most, I got a grub rescue menu but not able to ever boot into the OS. I am using 12.10 btw. Does anyone have any ideas?
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[08:24] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : it's been a long time since i've seen a software install smoke the hardware ;-)
[08:24] <Etyneo> SirClueless: Yes. There US a software.switch under Windize to turn it off normally. However, Linux support ofthese sorts of hybrid card is lacking
[08:24] <dr_willis> Casey:  try a live cd and the boot-repair tool?
[08:24] <Casey> tried both
[08:25] <Casey> dr_willis
[08:25] <dr_willis> it has a log/error message feature i recall that would help people in here help you
[08:25] <Casey> dr_willis I wish I could access it.
[08:26] <Casey> I've literally no joke, installed 12.10 over 12 times under all kinds of partitioning schemes and boot sequences. None give me a difference.
[08:26] <Casey> The only thing I can think of is the EFI and UEFI boot sequences that have come out recently.
[08:26] <dr_willis> yinstall to a usb, put grub on usb.. see if that works
[08:26] <Etyneo> Also, pardon typo errors... This phone's autocorrect is annoying...
[08:27] <Casey> could you explain what you mean dr_willis
[08:27] <dr_willis> Casey:  use a live-usb. to do a full install to a second usb flash drive 8gb+...  see if it boots from that
[08:28] <dr_willis> its possible booting that usb may show the install on the hd also. and boot it
[08:28] <pkh> I'm looking for some advice getting ubuntu onto a tablet. the end goal is to run opencpn (a navigation/chartplotter app for boating.)
[08:29] <Casey> I only have one USB. Do you know much about UEFI and EFI?
[08:29] <dr_willis> phk theres #ubuntu-arm
[08:29] <pkh> has anyone had any experience with the nexus 7?
[08:29] <dr_willis> Casey:  what little ive used it. has worked
[08:29] <pkh> dr_willis: will check there, cheers.
[08:30] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : So I booted from the DVD and selected to Install Ubuntu, and it brought me to the blank screen with a flashing cursor again. I let it wait and nothing happened. The computer froze up and I had to do a cold reset.
[08:31] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis : are you seeing a lot of people here with UEFI problems ?
[08:31] <Casey> dr_willis arlighty thanks
[08:31] <vimerrrrrrr> Hi all! Could anyone help me with the boot without full network configuration prob? Tried alot of the ways on the internet but not working~
[08:32] <JJdfadf> hello
[08:32] <uaggen> hello!
[08:32] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : ok you might need to do a nomodeset ... i think dr_willis might be able to help you with that
[08:32] <puteracomel> hey
[08:32] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[08:32] <raj> dr_willis, for example, when I change my volume using my keyboard
[08:33] <Tex_Nick> !nomodeset | Nevin
[08:33] <Nevin> Ok
[08:33] <dr_willis> raj:  thats the osd-notify, glib is somthing very different
[08:34] <raj> oh
[08:34] <raj> dr_willis, so how can I get that working again?
[08:34] <dr_willis> no idea.. guess it depends on what broke it. ;)
[08:34] <dr_willis> make a new user. see if it works for them. would be test  #1
[08:37] <raj> damn
[08:37] <raj> def didn't wanna do that
[08:39] <Etyneo> So, laze1989, I'm understanding that from a fresh 12.04.1 amd64 install all I need to do is go to the ATI site and get the latest Linux drivers. Is that correct?
[08:39] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : did you ever see a GRUB screen ?
[08:40] <dr_willis> raj:  its a test case...
[08:40] <dr_willis> raj:  if it works fora new user then that narrows doenn the problem area
[08:43] <raj> dr_willis, yeah, but I have a lot going on right now and my openbox is set up very specifically
[08:43] <laze1989> Etyneo: Yes.
[08:43] <raj> I don't wanna lose productivity messing with new users and whatnot
[08:44] <dr_willis> in the time youve taken. yooou could have allready made a user and tested it.
[08:44]  * bjj hi
[08:44] <bjj> hi
[08:44] <laze1989> Etyneo: The rest is described in the link I sent you.
[08:44] <dr_willis> or see if it affecta any other allready made users
[08:45] <Etyneo> Is it in the first post, or later in that thread?
[08:46] <bjj> hello
[08:46] <cfhowlett> bjj greetings
[08:46] <joey8> hi, does anyone know how to look at wifi traffic in/out from my router, thanx
[08:47] <laze1989> Etyneo: The first post.
[08:47] <dr_willis> some routers support a logging feature to monitor stuff. i forget the name. (snmpt?)
[08:48] <iceroot> joey8: have a look at the manual from your router. its specific to that device
[08:48] <joey8> iceroot➤ ah ok thanx
[08:48] <dr_willis> not really noticed that on newer routers
[08:49] <joey8> do you know if i am able to ssh into the router and run the sniff commands from there? or is that router-specific again
[08:49] <dr_willis> everything would be router sepecific
[08:51] <Nevin> dr.willis : So I did the nomodeset option in the livecd and it didn't change anything after running "Install Ubuntu." The blinking cursor froze up as well as my keyboard caps/numlock after 30 seconds.
[08:51] <dr_willis> Nevin:  so the install succeded/finished and on first boot it does that?
[08:51] <pino644> come funziona
[08:52] <dr_willis> capslock flashing = major kernel crashing.
[08:53] <Nevin> dr_willis : No it didn't have the chance to install Ubuntu. It freezes up. Caps lock didn't flash, the cursor on the console was flashing for awhile before everything froze up (including my keyboard.)
[08:57] <Nevin> dr_willis : Do you know the console with the flashing underscore cursor that comes up right after choosing "Install Ubuntu?" That's where It keeps freezing up at. Nothing loads or happens.
[08:57] <dr_willis> thats what 'nomodeset' normaly fixs.. unless the dvd/usb has errors
[08:57] <dr_willis> or theres some weird video card
[08:58] <Nevin> dr_willis : I'm using a GTX460 (Nvidia)
[08:58] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : there is a discussion on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2038227 that talks about dvd problem & the intel panther point chipset
[09:00] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : i'm not sure if the chipset problem also affects the usb interface ... seems it would
[09:01] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : are you sure you're ISO is clean ... have you done a hash compare ?
[09:02] <Wiz_KeeD> could someone please give me a hand with the ssh problem?
[09:02] <Nevin> How would I run a hash compare of the ISO? I think there was a option in uTorrent, but I've already removed it from the queue.
[09:03] <Gavilan2> Does any ubuntu phone already exist? What's the difference with the PC version?
[09:04] <cfhowlett> Gavilan2: no.  that's why the annoucment was "2014" for first device
[09:04] <gac> Nevin: download MD5Sum from http://pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/ then drag the ISO onto the MD5sum executable, it'll give you a checksum that you should be able to verify against those posted on the ubuntu website
[09:05] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : www.ubuntu.com ... at top of page DOWNLOAD menu ... choose distro ... it will provide info on hash compare
[09:05] <Gavilan2> Does anyone know about intel smartphone? with x86 architecture?
[09:08] <vamadir> hello, some body know php? i have problem with opencart
[09:09] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : Ok, so I ran the hash check that was linked to me from gac and got a 100% from the application.
[09:09] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : you might want to download a new ISO from the ubuntu site ... you never know what you will get from a torrent site @,@
[09:10] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : ok ISO is good then
[09:10] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : It was a torrent file link from the Ubuntu site. I also have the one downloaded straight from the site from the web browser.
[09:12] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : have you loaded any OS on this MoBo before ?
[09:13] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : Yes, I have it in a dual boot with Windows 7, XP, and 8.
[09:13] <DrCode> hi all
[09:13] <DrCode> I am trying to make dd to my ubuntu os
[09:13] <DrCode> I am running dd on the same os that run
[09:14] <DrCode> I use dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/sda.img
[09:14] <DrCode> when I try to run sudo fdisk -lu sda.img I got error
[09:14] <DrCode> the part is ext4
[09:14] <DrCode> any idea?
[09:15] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : you have win xp, 7 & 8 all on that box now ?
[09:15] <Gavilan2> Tex_Nick: I have Win 7, 8 and Ubuntu...
[09:15] <dr_willis> DrCode:  /mnt/ is what drive mounted there?
[09:15] <llutz> DrCode: you cannot copy an image of a DISK to a Partition, it won't fit a
[09:16] <DrCode> no
[09:16] <DrCode> its other hdd that I have
[09:16] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : Yes, they are each in their own partitions. I have a unalocated space left open for the Ubuntu install.
[09:16] <DrCode> I have two hdd
[09:16] <llutz> DrCode: /mnt is a different disk, ok then
[09:16] <DrCode> sda and sdb
[09:16] <dr_willis> normally you image a partition to a file also. makes it easier to work with
[09:17] <DrCode> I can use dd to the same os that is running?
[09:17] <dr_willis> and sdb is bigger then sda i hope?
[09:17] <DrCode> or I will need to run bootcd and then dd it?
[09:17] <DrCode> yes
[09:17] <boichev> can anyone give me a tutorial how to make ubuntu boot from flash to ramdisk ? I want everything to be in ram :?
[09:17] <DrCode> it make image file
[09:17] <dr_willis> DrCode:  you can.. ive done it. but its not a great idea
[09:17] <DrCode> ok
[09:17] <Nevin> I was planning to make the partition for the Ubuntu install in the installer itself since Ubuntu uses a different file system apart from Windows NTFS.
[09:17] <dr_willis> DrCode:  a live cd would be a better idea
[09:17] <DrCode> so why I can't mount the new image?
[09:18] <DrCode> when I run sudo fdisk -lu sda.img I got error
[09:18] <DrCode> very strange
[09:18] <Tex_Nick> Nevin : ok then windows 8 has hijacked the UEFI ... so to speak
[09:18] <dr_willis> DrCode:  you have to use offtets and other options to mount if the image is a whole disk. vs a partition
[09:18] <llutz> DrCode: what is the fdisk error?
[09:18] <DrCode> but how can I find offset?
[09:18] <dr_willis> id image it from a live cd for starters
[09:19] <dr_willis> and image the partition. not the whole disk
[09:19] <DrCode> I see, it mybe damge image?
[09:19] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : The secure boot isn't enabled though. During the boot of the GNU GRUB user interface a small line of words at the top left reads out, "Secure boot is disabled."
[09:19] <dr_willis> therees some guides on using mount with whole disk images
[09:19] <DrCode> I read to use sudo fdisk -lu sda.img
[09:19] <DrCode> but got error
[09:19] <DrCode> 1 min , I will paste it
[09:19] <DrCode> U mean to do dd if=/dev/sda1
[09:20] <DrCode> dr_willis, can U please paste link to good guide for ext4?
[09:21] <Tex_Nick> Niven : hey ... can you unplug the hard drive/s and boot up into the live DVD ?
[09:21] <llutz> DrCode: dd won't care about filesystems
[09:21] <DrCode> I see
[09:21] <DrCode> strange
[09:21] <jilebedev> I'm sorry for being irrelevant, but can anyone point me toward how I would go about finding out the pass used to encrypt a 7zip archive if I have both the archive and its extracted contents? (Again, sorry for being irrelevant, but I don't know how to search for this on google.)
[09:21] <Bor3y_> please my ubuntu it's very heavy
[09:21] <Nevin> Tex_Nick : Sorry but I'm going to have to go. I'll probably be on later tomorrow though! Thanks for the help so far though.
[09:22] <Tex_Nick> ok
[09:22] <dr_willis> Bor3y_:  thaats a little vague as to what you mean
[09:22] <Bor3y_> my ubuntu very slow but my ram is more than 2 gb
[09:23] <dr_willis> and your other hardware Bor3y_ ?
[09:23] <Bor3y_> it's fine too my processor is 3.00 GHZ
[09:24] <dr_willis> and  your video?
[09:24]  * dr_willis feels like hes pulling teeth
[09:24] <Bor3y_> video working well
[09:24] <dr_willis> so whats slow?
[09:24] <Bor3y_> the using of ubuntu
[09:25] <BOX> hi all.
[09:25] <dr_willis> SOUNDS LIKE VIDEO IS NOT WORKING 'WELL' THEN
[09:25] <dr_willis> OOPS' ;)
[09:25] <FloodBot1> dr_willis: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:25] <dr_willis> silly caps lock
[09:25] <cfhowlett> BOX: greetings
[09:25] <dr_willis> and  your video chipset is what exactly?
[09:26] <BOX> hi cfhowlett
[09:26] <cfhowlett> BOX: what's your ubuntu issue?
[09:26] <Bor3y_> dr_willis : can you check my pc plz ??
[09:26] <BOX> 12.04 refuses to install for me.
[09:27] <BOX> its an old amd 64 chip.
[09:27] <cfhowlett> BOX: details?  hardware?  and you DID perform the md5sum hashcheck to verify integrity of your iso?
[09:27] <BOX> the install disk works fine on my laptop.
[09:27] <jch2os> hey guys, I have a bit of an issue. had two 8.04 boxes, that I upgraded to 10.04 and then to 12.04.  when I went to 12.04 they don't boot
[09:27] <Bor3y_> and can i transfer my ubuntu to kubuntu ??
[09:27] <BOX> 64 bit too
[09:28] <jch2os> drops to busybox initramfs, if I hit exit it will boot on the one machine