[09:28] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[19:42] <Espreon> brobostigon: Good afternoon.
[19:42] <Espreon> ianto: Heh, the guy who's translating Wesnoth into Scottish Gaelic's not even Scottish.
[19:42] <Espreon> ... he's German.
[19:43] <brobostigon> hi Espreon
[19:45] <Espreon> brobostigon: And how are you on this not-so-fine day?
[19:48] <brobostigon> Espreon: the infecrion in my eczema on my thighs is slowly going down. and you?
[19:51] <Espreon> Well, I have poison oak on my left foot.
[19:51] <Espreon> ... the bubbles bursted.
[19:51] <Espreon> ... and now the skin just needs to fix itself.
[19:55] <Espreon> brobostigon: If you have no idea what I'm talking about, in this part of the world, we have these evil plants (such as poison ivy, poison oak, and poison sumac) that have this substance called urushiol... and it makes your skin itch like crazy. The rashes you get from it can even cause your skin to bubble and ooze...
[19:55] <Espreon> ... all you have to do it get the stuff on your skin.
[19:57] <brobostigon> Espreon: very true, but they can check my immune-system, which they di every 2 weeks, and can tell exactly what is going on, by analying my blood.
[20:08] <Espreon> Hmmm, I see.
[20:16] <brobostigon> Espreon: i also take immuno-suppresants, which control part of my eczema.
[20:16] <Espreon> Poor, poor Mr. brobostigon.
[20:17] <brobostigon> thank you Espreon
[20:17] <Espreon> Immunosuppresants...
[20:17] <brobostigon> yes, bad spelling.
[20:17] <Espreon> ... I just don't know what else to say...
[20:17] <Espreon> brobostigon: No, no..
[20:17] <brobostigon> suppressants*
[20:18] <Espreon> ... I'm talking about the fact you have to take such things...
[20:19] <brobostigon> Espreon: yes, because some of the symptoms of my eczema are caused by immune-system malfunction, hence it being called and auto-immune illness.
[20:19] <Espreon> Ah, so it is.
[20:19] <Espreon> (Honestly, I don't know much about eczema)
[20:20] <brobostigon> Espreon: basiclly, is the immune system reacting to things, as it would to bad things, but perfectly normally things, it shouldnt do, and in the wrong ways,
[20:20] <brobostigon> it is*
[20:20] <Espreon> Ah.
[20:20] <Espreon> ... Yeah, that's really bad.
[20:21] <brobostigon> yes, it is only recently, they have been able to work that out. but that is still very vague, and somewhat experimental an idea.
[20:21] <Espreon> What's experimental?
[20:22] <brobostigon> Espreon: the trearment with immuno-suppresaants, and the idea that it is caused by certain problems within the immune-system.
[20:23] <Espreon> Ah.
[20:24] <brobostigon> Espreon: and it is still vary rare, and is only used in the most extreeme cases.
[20:25] <Espreon> So, I guess you have it pretty bad, eh?
[20:26] <brobostigon> Espreon: when i first met my current dermatologist, who works at the university of oxford, and has been working in the area, for the last 30years, she said, i am the worst case, she has seen in her whole career,
[20:28] <Espreon> Yikes.
[20:29] <brobostigon> exactly.
[20:29] <brobostigon> yes.
[22:14] <brobostigon> good night everyone. sllep well.


[08:15] <MooDoo> howdy all
[09:34] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:54] <SuperMatt> good morning
[09:56] <brobostigon> morning
[10:55] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:57] <brobostigon> morning
[11:01] <czajkowski> so oddly when I launch some applications they are so max screen I can't see how to mimmise them :/
[11:01] <czajkowski> somewhat baffled
[11:03] <popey> Morning :)
[11:07] <czajkowski> popey: ello ello
[16:49]  * diddledan pokes daftykins to see if there is any life left in the idler
[16:49]  * zmoylan-pi hands diddledan the cattle prod upgrade...
[16:49] <diddledan> it has been far too quiet in here lately (I'm also at fault there)
[16:49]  * diddledan drops the cattle prod on his toe
[16:51] <diddledan> weirdly, clicking links in my gmail inbox in ff58 on buntu opens the new tab and then immediately closes it again
[16:51] <zmoylan-pi> none shall pass...
[16:52] <zmoylan-pi> popups that is
[16:52] <diddledan> I have to middle click it to do it via a different mechanism
[17:52] <m0nkey_> diddledan: how's that gsuite working out for you?
[18:15] <diddledan> Does its job.
[18:15] <uniquorn> Hey
[18:15] <m0nkey_> I may set-up G Suite, disable purchases from the Play store to prevent locking myself in.
[18:16] <uniquorn> So... Im from Sweden. I need an app called bankid on my phone to engage with the government. Can I ask if Ubuntu on a phone would support this?
[18:17] <m0nkey_> Wasn't Ubuntu touch dropped?
[18:17] <diddledan> It was
[18:18] <uniquorn> Ok so there's no Ubuntu edge or something similar?
[20:46] <daftykins> diddledan: a much delayed... "ow!" :D
[21:01] <diddledan> "ow my *alls"
[21:01] <daftykins> yep, falls
[21:02] <daftykins> i present to you, hardware porn, cats and the final haul of out of warranty disks (which also meets item 1) https://dafty.rocks/nextcloud/index.php/s/GanfIt7T2Gxo5us
[21:02] <diddledan> DUST BUNNIES!
[21:03] <daftykins> not my place of course
[21:03] <diddledan> ooh, WD Gold!
[21:03] <daftykins> nah RE2
[21:03] <daftykins> err RE4 even
[21:03] <diddledan> dame thing, aren't they?
[21:03] <diddledan> same*
[21:04] <diddledan> gold is the old name
[21:04] <diddledan> afaik
[21:04] <diddledan> I might be wrong
[21:04] <daftykins> new surely, these disks are old
[21:04] <daftykins> enterprise models before they launched the Reds
[21:04] <diddledan> aha
[21:05] <daftykins> i actually thought his desktop had Reds in RAID-1, but newp - so i've got a bunch of randoms now
[21:05] <daftykins> weirdly, one of the four reds only writes at 105MB/sec whilst the rest hit 150MB/sec
[21:06] <diddledan> popey: should we try amazon go while in Seattle? https://www.amazon.com/b?node=16008589011
[21:06] <daftykins> got a live session booted on a core 2 duo upstairs, SSH server installed and then remoted in 4 times from here to zero 3 disks xD
[21:06] <daftykins> you two off on a holiday? :)
[21:06] <diddledan> yeah we're off on a secret trist
[21:08] <daftykins> nice, be sure to find Frasier!
[21:20] <zmoylan-pi> all those 2tb drives... how titchy :-) see the 512gb card for phones announced :-)
[21:21] <daftykins> ah these are all old yeah
[21:21] <daftykins> no plans what to do with them, but technically being out of warranty and spinning so long, they could pop
[21:22] <zmoylan-pi> recommend the new helium filled jobbies just to save weight... :-D
[21:22] <daftykins> ;)
[21:23] <diddledan> do those helium ones float?
[21:23] <daftykins> i feel a bit iffy about those for now - also totally dislike the idea of the SMR drives (shingled magnetic recording) where write rates are slow due to needing to wait for it to rewrite adjacent tracks
[21:23] <zmoylan-pi> no, not light enough... you need hydrogen ones to float but no smoking is allowed of course...
[21:23] <diddledan> not even the magic smoke?
[21:23] <diddledan> the blue kind
[21:24] <zmoylan-pi> well when the magic smoke is released the problem goes away
[23:22] <diddledan> Rabies from Maid Marian and her Merry Men has died :-( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42775406
[23:23] <daftykins> how old! O_O
[23:53] <zmoylan-pi> In a 2003 interview, Lewis said he turned to acting after many years working in computers. He added that when they decided to make him a manager, "it was time to move on and became an actor".


[14:21] <ogra_> infinity, any news about the tegra3 package ?
[20:47] <VarmVaffel> I'm having some problems with booting a custom ubifs-image, if anyone would care to look at my kernel bootlog and see if they can spot anything then I would be very grateful
[20:47] <VarmVaffel> http://pastebin.com/j0swhBdE
[20:48] <VarmVaffel> the rootfs image is stored on a 512MB NAND chip
[20:48] <VarmVaffel> all information should be in that log really
[20:49] <VarmVaffel> wait fuck, that's not the complete log, sorry
[20:52] <VarmVaffel> http://pastebin.com/ADSJTFKD there it is, the ubifs fails to boot rootfs on the bottom
[22:04] <ogra_> infinity, any news about the tegra3 package ?
[22:06] <infinity> ogra_: Haven't had a chance to review it yet.  Long weekend being devoured by Panda buildds being crap.
[22:07] <ogra_> yeah i found a bug as well
[22:07] <ogra_> so probably reject it and let me re-upload ... its only a 1 char change anyway
[22:09] <infinity> ogra_: Re-upload whenever, I don't need to reject for you to do that.  The queue doesn't care about version clashes, only the archive.
[22:10] <infinity> (But I'll reject now anyway, now that you've told me)
[22:10] <ogra_> thx
[23:31] <ogra_> infinity, fixed tegra3 uploaded ... for later review ... whenever it's convenient


[07:08] <BillGHero> Anyone on right now?
[07:15] <BillGHero> Anyone know how to pinpoint the reason why the GUI Gnome desktop suddenly does not come up in a system that was working fine for over two weeks?
[08:37] <BillGHero> Anyone here know why my kernel's running with nomodeset even though that option does not show up in GRUB or modprobe.d/ ?


[00:16] <oh4> I've been dealing (since my install) with an issue that freezes my computer and then it automatically reboots. I think I nailed it down to Google Chrome being the culprit since I noticed it seems to happen shortly after I open it
[00:17] <oh4> anyone else ran into this with Chrome?
[01:02] <wylel> Why is fwupd held back for updates?
[01:18] <fuze> I get these errors after the halt command with my wireless card installed. Is it a problem? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/odAM9yO0/IMG_3762.JPG
[01:21] <fuze> they show up quickly during shutdown as well
[01:53] <valorie> fuze: I haven't, however have you tried chromium instead?
[01:54] <valorie> or falkon, which is my full-time browser now
[01:54] <valorie> it's possible it is a heat issue
[02:03] <magic_ninja_work> what is the kde runtime?
[02:37] <oderus> hey. when i connect my phone to my desktop, it offers a list of things (open in gwenview, view files, etc). How could I add an option to this?
[03:01] <valorie> oderus: such as?
[03:01] <valorie> I assume you mean via KDE Connect
[03:02] <valorie> I hear the team loves having new contributors
[03:03] <botch> Hello
[03:09] <oderus> valorie: no, i mean when i ook my phone to the desktop physically and it asks what I want to do with it
[03:10] <valorie> aha
[03:10] <valorie> good question
[03:10] <valorie> I guess it's better to ask in #kde
[03:10] <valorie> although it's rather quiet except around euro-working hours
[03:12] <oderus> valorie: ah ok
[11:00] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:54] <rodrigoty23> does anybody here know where i could find the source code of kubuntu 19.04?
[11:55] <rodrigoty23> i found ubuntu 16.04 but cant seem to find kubuntu 19.04. thank you.
[11:59] <BluesKaj> rodrigoty23, ask in #kubuntu-devel
[18:31] <mathieu> nobody speak here ?
[19:09] <DarinMiller> mathiew ...not too many people active today, did you need assistance?
[23:35] <jose__> saludos
[23:36] <jose__> de q trata este chat
[23:37] <jose__> hola
[23:41] <tomreyn> !es | jose__


[15:20] <snowcatman> i wished i was a seasoned ubuntu user. this box i have does not have a gui desktop of sorts. just command line. and gui threw the browser. my issue is plex does not see the files i put in the home directory. and the directory i had for the plex i could not put files. for some reason that directory has write protect. so i moved plex directory to my home directory were my files are. i just
[15:20] <snowcatman> dont know how to set those permisions so i could get things working.
[22:22] <snowcatman> is there a web-gui for ubuntu headly server for chmon folder and file permitions
[22:48] <snowcatman> headly = headless
[22:55] <snowcatman> ugh found it. its ntfs and i guess i have to change my ntfs mount to allow chmod and chown, dont' know haow to do it but google is being my friend. :-)


[01:26] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1193767 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/UpdateEvent/UpdateEvent.cpp (log message trimmed)
[01:26] <CIA-39> I was running apt-check with --human--readable because initially I thought I
[01:26] <CIA-39> might use its output verbatim. Since I'm not doing that anymore, it is much
[01:26] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1193768 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/kded/UpdateEvent/UpdateEvent.cpp Oops...
[10:19] <sresu> I tried jovie from CLI - <jovie> and < qdbus org.kde.KSpeech /KSpeech say "Hello World" 0> No response How to fix it?
[10:52] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: ping
[10:58] <ulysses> Riddell: Tuomo (author of HUPnP) fixed the installing problem, but UPnP MediaServer KIOslave can't find FindHUpnp.cmake: http://pastebin.com/fcqae7RE
[11:52] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I aint got not us address :P
[11:52]  * apachelogger starts fighting with cups
[11:53] <apachelogger> dantti_work: is your printer manager thing in svn/git?
[12:12] <freinhard> hi!
[12:12] <freinhard> anyone planing to backport digikam 1.5.0 to maverick?
[13:02] <ulysses> Riddell: I downloaded FindHUpnp.cmake from Amarok, and changed the dirnames to find HUpnp, now cmake works, but make not: http://pastebin.com/UcH48gTS
[13:20] <apachelogger> could someone with nvidia drivers check if bug 669996 affects them please
[13:29] <ghostcube_> hmmm the funny idea ti rewrite the soundsystem in mav has got who?
[13:29] <ghostcube_> i may send him some packagebombs:P
[13:34] <ghostcube_> ok any soulution for the braking of intel audio hardware in 10.10
[13:41] <apachelogger> what rewrite?
[13:41] <apachelogger> breaking?
[13:42] <collabra> who are you asking
[13:42] <collabra> cause if you're asking me, 10.10 is a joke.
[13:43] <JontheEchidna> ari-tczew: pong
[13:43] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: are you going to merge ktechlab? (assuming by comment on MoM)
[13:44] <JontheEchidna> ari-tczew: feel free to merge it
[13:45] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: I commented 'feel free to take'
[13:46] <JontheEchidna> cool, thanks. If nobody gets around to it I'll probably take care of it, but I'm not too terribly attached to the package.
[13:48] <ghostcube_> apachelogger: my webcam stoped working in 10.10 and my kmixer doesnt show any line
[13:48] <ghostcube_> with intel soundcard this seems not to work as it should
[13:48] <ghostcube_> 10.10 is bad ass
[13:48] <apachelogger> is pulseaudio installed?
[13:48] <ghostcube_> yes
[13:48] <ari-tczew> JontheEchidna: easy, 1-2 days and this package will be merged :P (not by me)
[13:48] <apachelogger> if it is not properly installed or runnig kmix will fall on its nose at times
[13:49] <apachelogger> ghostcube_: in that case you probably should report a bug
[13:49] <ghostcube_> i just updated
[13:49] <ghostcube_> apachelogger: hmm ok
[13:49] <ghostcube_> and jackd isnt recongnized as soundserver if you start it like before 10.04
[13:49] <ghostcube_> i think i wikll revert to 10.04 and wait :D
[13:50]  * apachelogger hates rekonq so very very much
[13:51] <collabra> ghostcube_: is a joke
[13:51] <ghostcube_> collabra: yeah its not usable for me :)
[13:52] <collabra> ghostcube_: for what reasons
[13:52] <ghostcube_> i cant use my programs :)
[13:52] <ghostcube_> bbl on 10.04
[13:52] <collabra> ghostcube_: do you find it unstable in any areas?
[13:53] <apachelogger> ghostcube: you should try a live image?
[13:53] <apachelogger> cause if it is not a bug, then you could ask the friendly support peopel to help you resolve the issue
[13:53] <ghostcube> apachelogger: its no solution for this , i asked already
[13:53] <apachelogger> ALSO, you should report the bug on 10.10 or vital information will not be available to ubuntu-bug
[13:53] <collabra> i find kwin unstable when it comes to desktop effects, for one.
[13:53] <ghostcube> iam not the only one having this
[13:54] <ghostcube> nah the problem is mav changed many basements and i dont want to use it in this way. so i will keep 10.04
[13:54] <collabra> every login i had to re-enable the effects
[13:54] <ghostcube> i use compiz i dont use kde effects
[13:54] <apachelogger> ghostcube: the sound stack is big and complicated what appears as one problem could really be many different ones
[13:55] <collabra> intel audio hardware support is clearly problematic
[13:55] <mgraesslin> ScottK: the disable selfcheck patch http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/5774/
[13:55] <ScottK> mgraesslin: Thanks.
[13:56] <mgraesslin> collabra: that patch is the solution to your "had to re-enable the effects"
[13:56] <collabra> mgraesslin: what patch
[13:56] <mgraesslin> the reviewboard link I just posted :-)
[13:57] <collabra> mgraesslin: is it currently in the repo for update,...
[13:57] <ScottK> collabra: I've not had any problems with my Intel sound stuff on Maverick.
[13:57] <ghostcube> apachelogger: yeah the stack is big, i dont doubt this but it cvant be that i cannot chhose any channel in my kmix tool
[13:57] <ScottK> collabra: Not yet, but it will be, now that we have the patch.
[13:57] <ghostcube> and if this is back i will stay on 10.04
[13:57] <apachelogger> ghostcube: if you do not report a bug this will not change
[13:57] <apachelogger> ...
[13:58] <collabra> ScottK: i've been in #kubuntu all day long and ghostcube is the fourth one including me that have complained
[13:58] <ScottK> collabra: I'm not saying there aren't problems, but that they aren't universal.
[13:58] <collabra> pulseaudio is being blamed,... not to mention the 'generic' driver that supports it
[13:59] <collabra> ScottK: i understand
[13:59] <ghostcube> but it cannot be that such a problem havent accoured in the testings
[13:59] <collabra> ScottK: and i applaud the engineers, but,... i won't soon upgrade to 10.10
[14:00] <collabra> ScottK: i had a terrible experience
[14:00] <collabra> ScottK: with various bugs
[14:00] <ScottK> collabra: I understand.  There are a mix of problems in this cycle.  The ones that have hit me are generally X related.
[14:00] <ScottK> The release after an LTS is the best one to push forward to new stuff on.
[14:01] <apachelogger> ghostcube: the sound stack is bing and complicated, what appears as one problem could really be many different ones - and in that case it can be very well that it works on my system but not on yours
[14:01] <apachelogger> on that note, I tested maverick on 4 devices, all using intel audio
[14:01] <ghostcube> hmm ok here on intel ich10 no really working situation
[14:01] <collabra> ScottK: yeah,... but,... how do you feel,... are these distros rushed.
[14:02] <ghostcube> but nm i will just downgrade
[14:02] <ghostcube> i dont have the time to investigate this
[14:02] <ghostcube> maybe anyone else
[14:02] <apachelogger> ghostcube: you just need to report a bug
[14:03] <ghostcube> i even dont know whats the problem
[14:03] <ghostcube> so against what filing?
[14:03] <apachelogger> ubuntu-bug audio
[14:04] <collabra> ScottK: or is the only way to find these things require publishing?
[14:06] <CIA-39> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1193888 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/worker/qaptauthorization.h Use a preprocessor if statement to support polkit-qt-1 from trunk (0.98 or above) To make things easier for porting, don't put the PolkitQt1::SystemBusNameSubject on the heap. I think we were leaking that anyways.
[14:06] <apachelogger> collabra: as we already pointed out, sound on intel chips never appeared as problem in the 5 months of testing we conducted, yet people have problems, so, yes, to a certain degree you need to publish
[14:06] <collabra> the best aspect of 10.10 i found was the speed that which applications initalised.... very quick... but sadly only this to me was significant
[14:07] <apachelogger> it is impossible to provide a solution that works everywhere with only limited testing audience as is there with pre-releases
[14:07] <collabra> apachelogger: how much time do i need to give this version to mature
[14:07] <apachelogger> to that degree of course there is no excuse to release broken software, but at some point as developer you need to make the decision to release software if it works reasonable well for you
[14:08] <apachelogger> collabra: april 1012
[14:08] <collabra> apachelogger: lol
[14:08] <apachelogger> that will be the next LTS release
[14:08] <apachelogger> and until then we will try to push the boundries
[14:08] <CIA-39> [libqapt] jmthomas * 1193889 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/worker/qaptauthorization.h SVN_SILENT: a bit of cleanup
[14:09] <collabra> apachelogger: are you serious,... or,... joking,.. truly give me a timeline for 10.10
[14:09] <apachelogger> of course the amount of potentially dangerous changes will decrease already
[14:09] <apachelogger> surely 10.10 had the most involving change that will be between 10.04 and 12.04
[14:09] <collabra> apachelogger: ahh,... i wasn't aware of that.
[14:09] <apachelogger> at least from a current point of view nothing as major ought to come up
[14:11] <apachelogger> collabra: releases in between LTS are much like milestones towards a more fullfilling LTS experience, they are not broken or anything, we just tend to be more edgy in introducing new technologies
[14:11] <collabra> so,... in distro-release from previous versions,... how long did it take for bugs to be worked out,... major bugs
[14:13] <apachelogger> what do you mean by major bugs?
[14:13] <collabra> apachelogger: i understand and you make perfect sense.... like linux i'm beginning to mature myself,... and i'll be trying not to jump when dists come out
[14:13] <collabra> apachelogger: bugs that are common among new dists
[14:14] <collabra> apachelogger: bugs that are made aparant after release
[14:14] <apachelogger> depends on the implication of the bug
[14:15] <apachelogger> if the bug affects all users, it usually gets resolved ASAP
[14:15] <collabra> apachelogger: has there been any of those bugs in this release
[14:15] <apachelogger> so generally it depends on the scope of the bug, the more people are affected, the faster it usually is delt with (given that bug triage and developer resources are available of course)
[14:16] <apachelogger> collabra: not that I know of
[14:16] <ghostcube> hmm found an old soundblaster eax
[14:16] <ghostcube> will test this
[14:16] <apachelogger> there was one with all of Qt and certain other apps crashing on nvidia proprietary drivers
[14:17] <apachelogger> however IIIRC that did not even affect all users of the driver
[14:17] <ghostcube> apachelogger: iam glad the x probs i read about havent got me :)
[14:17] <ghostcube> hehe
[14:17] <ghostcube> but i didnt read anything about sound probs damn :D
[14:18] <collabra> apachelogger: so, do you consider 10.10 to be ready now,... and if not when should i give it another try?
[14:18]  * apachelogger still thinks that a configuration issues is more likely the problem for ghostcube
[14:18] <apachelogger> collabra: it works for me(tm)
[14:19] <apachelogger> software is *never* ready
[14:19] <freinhard> ghostcube: install libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio
[14:19] <apachelogger> due to the fact that there is no such thing as bug-free or perfect software
[14:19] <freinhard> that did the trick for me... lines in kmixer, working micro etc
[14:20] <collabra> apachelogger: i'll infer that means don't bother upgrading,... that i'll have the same experience regardless of time given to the software
[14:20] <ghostcube> freinhard: hmmm
[14:20] <ghostcube> sounds good
[14:21] <apachelogger> collabra: depends on what you mean by experience
[14:21] <ghostcube> guys the hardest step ever was to use kde 4.0 from kde 3.x
[14:21] <apachelogger> if experience == rock stable, then I would go for the mantra "never change a working system"
[14:22] <collabra> apachelogger: well,... like whether i'm smiling or frowning
[14:22] <ghostcube> and i did it and i knew what waited for me but here in mav i think some news should have been spread before the peoples had clicked update
[14:22] <collabra> happy or sad
[14:22] <collabra> satisfied or ,... well....?
[14:22] <apachelogger> collabra: that still depends on what you expect
[14:23] <apachelogger> ghostcube: we have release notes
[14:23] <ghostcube> i knew you woukd say this :D
[14:23] <apachelogger> those state all the important bugs we know about
[14:24] <collabra> i may be naive about these distros,... but i expect a greater experience than say the 2600 build from microsoft,... which is basically what i 'experienced' from 10.10
[14:24] <collabra> i don't mean to be too critical,... but... eh.
[14:24]  * apachelogger notes that he really has no time to engage in buzzword discussions
[14:25] <ghostcube> apachelogger: no prob i didnt want to bother you just was a bit pissed for the sound bug :)
[14:25] <ghostcube> i will try freinhards solution so far
[14:26] <apachelogger> ghostcube: understandibly that you were pissed :)
[14:28] <collabra> apachelogger: at any rate,.. regardless,.. 10.04 works and i think expecting that same quality from 10.10 was premature,... i'll just keep that in mind when pondering an upgrade
[14:28] <collabra> apachelogger: thanks for taking time to talk to me.
[14:28] <collabra> eof
[14:28] <apachelogger> sure thing
[14:37] <ghostcube> freinhard: didnt work
[14:37] <ghostcube> :)
[14:37] <ghostcube> cause i needed to uninstall -alsa then and after this nothing worked anymore
[14:47] <apachelogger> oh, bug in dragonplayer
[14:47] <apachelogger> oh dear
[14:50] <ghostcube> meeeh vlc doesnt work o.O
[14:50] <ghostcube> is this for anyone else too?
[14:50] <dmatt> no
[14:50] <ghostcube> claims updating alsa-lib
[14:50] <ghostcube> strange
[14:51] <dmatt> sorry, wrong channel
[14:56] <apachelogger> gstreamer - we do not only eat your ramz we also use silly names so that you have to install all sorts of unrelated crap to get playback working
[14:56] <ghostcube> :D
[14:57] <ghostcube> i think this good bad ugly very ugly extremly ugly is a pita
[14:57] <ghostcube> :D
[14:58] <Riddell> ulysses: well done on the progress
[14:58] <Riddell> ulysses: I think it's missing a library in the linking options
[14:58] <Riddell> probably needs a -lhuphp or whatever the library is called
[15:04] <Riddell> in CMakeLists.txt somewhere
[15:05] <apachelogger> now this works very well
[15:05]  * apachelogger aint got no sounds in gstreamer
[15:05]  * apachelogger got like a billion devices in phonon-gstreamer setup though
[15:06] <Mamarok> Riddell: there is no littleCMS in the sources AFAICS, it is an optional dependency for the next koffice
[15:07] <Mamarok> or am I just too dumb to find it?
[15:09] <Mamarok> nvm, found it, sadly the file description doesn't mention the word littleCMS, so it is not findable by a search, one has to know the library name
[15:10] <Riddell> Mamarok: liblcms1 ?
[15:11] <Mamarok> yes, it didn't show up when I searched with the term littlecms
[15:11] <Mamarok> found it now
[15:12] <Riddell> Mamarok: I'll upload a fix to that now
[15:12] <Mamarok> Riddell: thanks :)
[15:17] <Mamarok> Riddell: also, which version is in Natty? is it already 2.0? I still have 1.18 in Maverick
[15:17] <Mamarok> trunk requires 2.0
[15:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: afaik you can choose the country down below
[15:22] <shadeslayer> ScottK: thanks :)
[15:22] <freinhard> ghostcube: i got libsdl1.2debian libsdl1.2debian-alsa and libsdl1.2debian-pulseaudio installed and since i did so everything works like a charm
[15:23] <ghostcube_> i cant install libsdl-debian alsa and pulseaudio at the same time
[15:25] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it says in the requirements that you need a us shipping address
[15:25] <apachelogger> Riddell: gstreamer refuses to work here all and entirely
[15:25] <apachelogger> no clue why
[15:25] <shadeslayer> :/
[15:26] <shadeslayer> then why do they have that effing country entry?
[15:30] <ghostcube_> freinhard: how did you install both?
[15:30] <ghostcube_> if i try to instsall one of them the other one gets removed
[15:31] <freinhard> no idea. just did that in aptitude
[15:31] <freinhard> oh, my bad, looks like i didn't see the "rc" of -alsa in dpkg -l
[15:32] <apachelogger> groovy
[15:32] <apachelogger> according to yauap playback is working
[15:32] <apachelogger> I just dont here anythig
[15:32] <freinhard> anyways, installed -pulseaudio, reboot, works
[15:32] <apachelogger> maybe my hearing is not good enough for the superior might of gstreamer \o/
[15:39] <ghostcube_> brb
[16:49] <ghostcube_> huh i can route pulseaduio into jackd by pulseaudio plugin
[16:49] <ghostcube_> hmmm thats nice
[16:49] <ghostcube_> :D
[16:49] <ghostcube_> still no channels but this is cool
[17:58] <ScottK> shadeslayer: You're welcome.
[17:58] <ScottK> collabra: We test these things during development, but particularly with audio and video many of the problems are very hardware specific, so it's hard to make sure everyone has a good experience without making it the default.
[18:49] <androidlogger> Riddell: dvd playback has no menu navigation in dragon with gst :(
[18:50] <Riddell> androidlogger: well yes, that's a downside for gstreamer for sure
[18:50] <Riddell> but since we don't offer out the box dvd support anyway, you could argue it's no worse
[18:51] <ScottK> But don't we pop up a way to get it?
[18:51] <ScottK> So the difference between out of the box and not is very slight.
[18:53] <androidlogger> my system got navigaton headers for gst+dvd it seems, though making that work gives me a bit of a headache, just from thinking about it
[19:05] <ulysses> Riddell: I don't know what's changed, but now UPnP MedaServer can't even find HUPnP, so cmake fails too…
[19:48] <androidlogger> dvd navigation implemented in phonon gst
[19:48] <androidlogger> should even work with surface and gl rendering
[19:53] <CIA-39> [muon] jmthomas * 1193987 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/libmuon/ (DetailsWidget.cpp DetailsWidget.h) Remove the unused QApt::Backend pointer from the DetailsWidget class. Now that the tabs that use the QApt::Backend are in their own classes, the pointer is no longer used in the DetailsWidget
[19:53] <JontheEchidna> reduced mem consumption by 4 bytes \o/
[19:53] <jjesse> yay
[19:54] <ScottK> Every little bit helps.
[21:23] <ulysses> Riddell: I „fixed” it, I write the path of the libHUpnp.so into the CMakeList.txt, and now it works, I could browse the UPnP devices if I would have one
[21:25] <apachelogger> does anyone have a dvd where one has to enter stuff or something?
[21:31] <Riddell> ulysses: awooga
[21:32] <Riddell> ulysses: so lesson No 1 for packagers is upstream software sucks :)
[21:32] <Riddell> ulysses: now the trick is to get it all packaged
[21:37] <ulysses> Riddell: I get it now:P I sent an e-mail to Nikhil (author of UPnP MediaServer KIOslave) with my workaround
[22:12] <sheytan__> Riddell hey dude
[23:08] <valorie> apachelogger: need a US address? you can use mine, and I'll re-ship whatever-it-is to you
[23:09] <valorie> which reminds me, I need to ship maco's scarf to her
[23:09] <maco> oh yeah
[23:09] <apachelogger> valorie: probably not worth it, shipping would probably be super expensive
[23:09] <apachelogger> thanks for the offer though :)
[23:17] <valorie> little, or big?
[23:17] <valorie> big stuff is expensive, little not-so-much
[23:17] <valorie> email me your shipping address, maco
[23:17] <valorie> I'll put it in an envelope and send it tomorrow