[12:06] <sl4mm3r> hopefully the usb won't share the kb/mouse
[12:06] <sl4mm3r> might have to disable usb hotplug
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> sl4mm3r: i would just incase
[12:08] <sl4mm3r> this should be a neat project
[12:08] <sl4mm3r> =]
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> sl4mm3r: document it then submit to the kb :D
[12:12] <icesword> !drxx
[12:12] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:14] <icesword> how to configure x and resolution in kubuntu?i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg got a command not found
[12:17] <cuznt> !dpkg-reconfigure
[12:17] <cuznt> !xserver
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <KubuntuJack> what is the right hannel for advice on a good gfx card for kubuntu?
[12:19] <sl4mm3r> KubuntuJack:  what are you looking for
[12:20] <icesword> !drakconf
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drakconf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <icesword> !info drakconf
[12:20] <ubotu> Package drakconf does not exist in gutsy
[12:22] <sl4mm3r> KubuntuJack: do you want to game?
[12:23] <KubuntuJack> sl4mm3r: I think some kind of nvidia.  I've been looking at 8600GT/GTS and 8800GT.  If everything works out I am gonna stay in kubuntu, and not play any games.  I wanna try compiz and 2:nd life.  Am trying to make a quiet computer since my main application is recording music...
[12:23] <sl4mm3r> i have an 8600 gt .. its not really that quiet ...
[12:24] <sl4mm3r> what resolution do you want to run at
[12:24] <sl4mm3r> nm the resolution question
[12:24] <sl4mm3r> hrm
[12:24] <sl4mm3r> quiet eh
[12:25] <sl4mm3r> well whatever you do .. reference this sheet
[12:25] <sl4mm3r> http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/132
[12:25] <KubuntuJack> I was looking at models from ASUS with a passive heatsink.  there is also a cooler from arctic cooling the accelero S1 whcih should even work on a 8800GT
[12:26] <sl4mm3r> if you are going to get an 8800gt vs 8800gtx ... you might want to look at the new 9800's too
[12:26] <sl4mm3r> they're 256 bit as well.. and i think might be cheaper
[12:26] <KubuntuJack> The res I don't know yet.  I'm gonna get a new monitor in a couple of months.  might go for 2 x 19-20" or may even a 24"..
[12:27] <sl4mm3r> its hard to find hidden gems right now..  we get what we pay for right now
[12:27] <sl4mm3r> i can run ultra mode at 1280x1024 in nexuiz .. but in 1920x1440 it stutters down to 20 fps .. having a 256 bit bus i think would help out
[12:27] <sl4mm3r> quite a bit
[12:28] <sl4mm3r> look for a 9600 with passive cooling
[12:29] <sl4mm3r> mind you .. the 8600 .... does run fairly cool
[12:29] <sl4mm3r> and apparently is only a volt mod away from being a gtx
[12:29] <sl4mm3r> if you are into that sorta thing
[12:29] <sl4mm3r> and the 8600gt does run kind of cool.. so you probably could put a heatsink on it
[12:29] <sl4mm3r> i actually have one for mine but i haven't bothered to install it since my cpu fan is so loud too
[12:29] <KubuntuJack> Yes and no.  I like to do shit like that, but on the otherhand it voids warranty...
[12:30] <sl4mm3r> but the 8600gt is leaving me wanting a bit more for higher res stuff
[12:30] <sl4mm3r> i o/c with coolbits too
[12:30] <sl4mm3r> still doesn't *do it
[12:31] <sl4mm3r> i see some 9600gts with passive cooling
[12:31] <sl4mm3r> they should compare to 8800s and be a bit cheaper
[12:32] <sl4mm3r> sorry
[12:32] <sl4mm3r> 9600gt
[12:32] <sl4mm3r> oh wait i did sayd 86
[12:32] <sl4mm3r> 96
[12:32] <sl4mm3r> %/
[12:32] <sl4mm3r> 9600gt .. 57gb/s
[12:32] <sl4mm3r> hrmmmm
[12:32] <SlimeyPete> they're not as powerful as 8800s from what I've read.
[12:33] <godkas> hmmmm
[12:33] <sl4mm3r> if you can get an 8800 for the same price
[12:33] <sl4mm3r> i'd grab the 8800
[12:33] <godkas> it installed but my K-menu is all messed up
[12:34] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:34] <eagles0513875> how so
[12:34] <eagles0513875> !offtopic sl4mm3r
[12:35] <user1>  i cant see 'downthemall' in package manager.. why?
[12:35] <KubuntuJack> so you mean that the 8800gt is better than the 9600?
[12:35] <godkas> eg. "_: Entries in K-menu: Amarok app name, Audio Player descr...
[12:35] <sl4mm3r> KubuntuJack: yah .. it has more shader clocks..  check the link i sent ya
[12:35] <godkas> and my package manager wont update
[12:35] <sl4mm3r> KubuntuJack: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/132
[12:36] <sl4mm3r> last offtopic
[12:36] <sl4mm3r> this is a good link for doing the "multi seat" i was wondering about
[12:36] <sl4mm3r> http://research.edm.uhasselt.be/~jori/page/index.php?n=Misc.DualSeatX
[12:36] <sl4mm3r> more then 1 person logged into 1 pc
[12:36] <sl4mm3r> anyways thx all
[12:36] <sl4mm3r> gl KubuntuJack
[12:37] <Dr_willis> Thers also that 'userful' linux thing/addon that can let you have a single pc - be ysed by several people at once
[12:38] <godkas> eagles0513875 any ideas?
[12:39] <eagles0513875> godkas: can u get to a command line using alt+f1
[12:39] <eagles0513875> then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade all pkgs
[12:39] <eagles0513875> godkas: u installed hardy or gutsy
[12:39] <godkas> gutsy
[12:40] <eagles0513875> well run the command i mentioned above and update pkgs and kernel and reboot using the latest kernel and see if that helps
[12:41] <godkas> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:41] <godkas> 0_o
[12:41] <eagles0513875> godkas: try sudo apt-get update
[12:42] <godkas> k and i went ahead and upgraded
[12:43] <eagles0513875> godkas: ok
[13:07] <dcorbin_work> I have an icon on my desktop.  When I drag it to a new location, it won't stay, but immediately reverts to the original location.  Any ideas for likely causes?
[13:08] <Dr_willis> there is an auto-clean up/align setting for icons
[13:09] <sahin_w> dcorbin_work: right click on desktop > icons
[13:12] <dcorbin_work> sahin_w: thanks.
[13:12] <sahin_w> dcorbin_work: np
[13:15] <spanther> n
[13:15] <spanther>
[13:15] <spanther>
[13:16] <spanther>
[13:16] <spanther>                                                                                mh
[13:16] <spanther> ah sorry i didnt want that
[13:17] <Dr_willis>  cls :)
[13:18] <eagles0513875> whats up doc
[13:19] <spanther> i really wonder why xchat had spaces inside the typing field :(
[13:19] <amerigo> !monitor
[13:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:19] <amerigo> !lcd
[13:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:19] <amerigo> ! lcd
[13:19] <amerigo> ! moitor
[13:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moitor - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:19] <amerigo> ! monitor
[13:20] <Jucato> !msgthebot | amerigo
[13:20] <ubotu> amerigo: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[13:20] <jussi01> !msgthebot | amerigo
[13:21] <jussi01> heh
[13:21] <Jucato> ahem :P
[13:21] <amerigo> amen
[13:21] <spanther> eew religious xD
[13:22] <eagles0513875> !offtopic
[13:22] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[13:22] <chartoin> hi
[13:22] <chartoin> can anyone help me with vido in gusty?
[13:23] <chartoin> i get the sounds but I get a weird video output
[13:23] <Dr_willis> clarify the problem and question. and see who can help.
[13:23] <Dr_willis> You mean video file playback is garbled?
[13:23] <chartoin> I can't exactly explain how the vido is
[13:23] <chartoin> is there a image bin link?
[13:23] <chartoin> I get green red and blue pixels
[13:23] <chartoin> not images
[13:24] <amerigo> i've a problem... kubuntu don't recognize my lcd monitor
[13:24] <amerigo> it is a acer al1520
[13:24] <Dr_willis> chartoin,  do you have an nvidia video card?
[13:24] <amerigo> where a can get right driver
[13:24] <amerigo> ???
[13:25] <chartoin> ATi card
[13:25] <amerigo> (sorry for my english)
[13:25] <chartoin> I have the restricted drivers installed
[13:25] <Dr_willis> amerigo,  ive never neeed any driver for my lcd's - I have had to install the proper nvidia or ati drivers. for the video cards to determine the proper res for the lcds befor.
[13:26] <Dr_willis> chartoin,  There used to be a bug with the nvidia drivers that caused somthing like that. Ive no idea on ati. try playing the videos with gmplayer, or vlc, and run them from the terminal, see if thers any error messages or interesting data they say about the files.
[13:27] <chartoin> http://imagebin.org/16459
[13:27] <amerigo> Dr_Wills: my video card is integrated (I think tha kubuntu recognized it correctly)
[13:27] <chartoin> check out that to see exactly what I get
[13:27] <amerigo> (but I don't know how to check it)
[13:28] <eagles0513875> amerigo: try glxinfo
[13:28] <eagles0513875> amerigo: u want to see if open gl is workign right
[13:28] <amerigo> in the monitor option I know only that the model don't appears
[13:28] <Dr_willis> chartoin,  i suggest trying to play the videos from vlc, or gmplayer, or other players from a terminal, and see if they spit out any usefull error message.   also you may need to isntall all the codec packs also.
[13:28] <amerigo> ok eagles ... one moment
[13:29] <eagles0513875> amerigo: ok
[13:29] <chartoin> http://pastebin.com/m396ae129
[13:29] <amerigo> ok doctor
[13:29] <chartoin> I tried playing from terminal and I got the output http://pastebin.com/m396ae129
[13:29] <Dr_willis> a blank video screen, but sound - sounds like  the video codecs are not there for the player to use.
[13:29] <chartoin> I have installed all the codec packs
[13:30] <Dr_willis> try some other videos, try running from the terminal. looking for infomational messages.. is about all you can do then.
[13:30] <chartoin> did you check out the pastebin link
[13:30] <chartoin> it shows the error
[13:31] <amerigo> where i can paste the output from glxinfo??
[13:32] <chartoin> amerigo paste it herehttp://pastebin.com/
[13:32] <chartoin> amerigo paste it here http://pastebin.com/
[13:32] <chartoin> then give the link in your address bar in this channel
[13:33] <amerigo> Here you can see all the info a get http://pastebin.com/d69ec111c
[13:34] <Dr_willis> the 'pastebinit' command is VERY handy :)
[13:35] <Dr_willis> !info pastebinit
[13:35] <ubotu> pastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 7 kB, installed size 84 kB
[13:37] <amerigo> Dr_Willis: I've try caffeine ... I don't know the program you said....
[13:38] <amerigo> kaffeine said that I have no codec to reproduce a .smill file
[13:39] <chartoin> Dr.willis, didi you look at this? http://pastebin.com/
[13:39] <cuznt> amerigo smil is an old codec
[13:39] <cuznt> try helix player
[13:40] <amerigo> my problem is little different
[13:41] <cuznt> right on
[13:41] <chartoin> youtube videos work fine
[13:41] <amerigo> kubuntu don't recognize my monitor (it is set like generic monitor)
[13:41] <amerigo> so I cannot adjust resolution
[13:42] <amerigo> youtube works already fine
[13:42] <Dr_willis> helix player? egsds. :) try vlc and mplayer,gmplayer...
[13:42] <Dr_willis> well its bed time here.. night all
[13:44] <amerigo> eagles: no tips?
[13:45] <eagles0513875> amerigo: i had that issue do u have direct rendering a yes
[13:48] <emil> salut cine a facut cursul fundamentals of unix?
[13:49] <eagles0513875> !fr
[13:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:50] <emil> qui fait le course fundamentals of unix?
[13:51] <Jucato> !fr | emil
[13:51] <ubotu> emil: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[13:52] <emil> who made the course fundamentals of unix?
[13:54] <amerigo> eagles: I do not understand
[13:54] <amerigo> eagles: what you said?
[13:54] <emil> me?
[13:54] <amerigo> no eagles..
[13:55] <emil> ok
[13:56] <Jucato> amerigo: you can use the Tab key to autocomplete someone's nick, like type "eagle" then hit the Tab key. calling them by their complete nick will notify them that their name has been mentioned, one way or another
[13:59] <amerigo> thank you Jucato
[13:59] <amerigo> or you are a bot....
[14:00]  * Jucato whacks amerigo... that should give you an idea
[14:00] <amerigo> thank you the same
[14:00] <amerigo> oh sorry
[14:00] <amerigo> and * this is?
[14:00] <Jucato> hm?
[14:01] <amerigo> i'm newbie of this chat-forum
[14:05] <noam_> what might cause this: http://picasaweb.google.com/noam.mor/HelloWorld/photo#5189456618707501090 ? i mean the yellow lines
[14:05] <makdaknife> noam_: looks like a dodgy graphics card... or driver
[14:06] <noam_> :/
[14:06] <Nyad> Hi, anyone here use wxPython, the wxPython channel is dead
[14:06] <noam_> try #python
[14:07] <Nyad> ok
[14:08] <Jucato> or #wxwidgets if there is one
[14:09] <Nyad> ah there is :) thanks
[14:11] <godkas> There i found a fix
[14:11] <godkas> regional settings
[14:11] <emil> hi who made the course fundamentals of unix?
[14:14] <Nyad> what does i18n mean?
[14:15] <Pici> internationalization
[14:16] <Pici> Nyad: supposedly because there are 18 characters between the first and last characters.  Basically its translating.
[14:16] <Nyad> oh ok
[14:20] <PhilRod> (strictly speaking, i18n is enabling your app to be translated, while l10n is actually translating it into a given language, but i18n is often used for both)
[14:21] <jim> Hey
[14:21] <Pici> Much better explanation there.
[14:21] <jim> i buggered up my apt thingy  !! how can i fix it again
[14:21] <jim> it says "The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem."
[14:22] <llutz> !aptfix
[14:22] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[14:23] <jim> nah still same thing
[14:24] <jim> i was playing around with it trying to learn how it works and i put in a command line into it, in the sourse code thingy and it doesnt work now
[14:26] <jim> so no more ideas i take it ?
[14:42] <nerd__> .
[14:44] <user1> where to download vbox puel version?
[14:45] <SlimeyPete> user1: from the virtualbox website?
[14:45] <SlimeyPete> or else the OSS version is in the repos
[14:45] <user1> exact link?
[14:45] <user1>  i want puel
[14:46] <SlimeyPete> user1: there's a link on their download page.
[14:46] <SlimeyPete> it's labelled "binaries"
[14:46] <user1> hm
[14:48] <user1> SlimeyPete thx
[15:11] <Ayabara> why oh why can't kubuntu have as good support for laptop media buttons as ubuntu do? shouldn't it be possible to use the same information to make it work by default?
[15:13] <stdin> "The only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is that Ubuntu uses Gnome by default and Kubuntu uses KDE by default", so you're looking at a KDE (4) bug
[15:14] <Knight488> if I install 8.04, will the downloader update my files to the official 8.04 release when it comes out?
[15:14] <stdin> yes
[15:14] <loumalin> #ubuntu-fr
[15:16] <Ayabara> stdin, meaning that distro using kde has better support for multimedia keys than kubuntu does?
[15:17] <stdin> Ayabara: no, meaning that not being able to use MM keys is a KDE4 issue, if you run KDE3's amarok, for instance, they work
[15:18] <stdin> (run KDE3's amarok in a KDE4 session)
[15:18] <popojijo> does anyone know how to get  rid of the double screen in kde4?
[15:18] <Ayabara> stdin, ah. ok. they don't work well for me in kde3 either, but at least they do something :-) thanks for enlightening me
[15:19] <Ayabara> kde3-applications, that is
[15:19] <stdin> if they don't work in KDE3 either, it's usually a kernel/Xorg issue
[15:19] <stdin> and that would be shared by Gnome/Ubuntu too
[15:20] <stdin> if not, then... I don't know :)
[15:21] <Ayabara> stdin, in gutsy they work well with gnome, but not with kde. I saw a kmilo bug somewhere that explained it. kde4 only now, so I'll focus on that :-)
[15:22] <_abbenormal> hello
[15:22] <popojijo> hello
[15:23] <popojijo> does anyone know how to get  rid of the double screen in kde4?
[15:23] <stdin> popojijo: try #kubuntu-kde4
[15:24] <popojijo> k , will try
[15:24] <_abbenormal> is there a way to compile a kernel in kubuntu and not have to make initrd image to boot the system i would like to use vanilla kernels and compile the debian way
[15:24] <stdin> the debian way _is_ to use an initrd
[15:24] <stdin> anyway:
[15:24] <stdin> !kernel
[15:24] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[15:24] <MarcC-backroom> how can I get KDE to stop restoring compiz to run when it restores the last session?
[15:25] <Ayabara> stdin, did you mean that the MM keys not working is a known kde4 issue, or that it's something I should bug ppl in #kde (like you ;) with?
[15:25] <SlimeyPete> MarcC-backroom: kill compiz, then log out.
[15:25] <_abbenormal> ok then why cannt i use a kernel ive compiled under debian in kubuntu
[15:25] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: system settings > advanced > session manager
[15:25] <MarcC-backroom> SlimeyPete, doesn't work
[15:26] <stdin> Ayabara: I think it's known, I've never been able to use them in KDE4 but I can in KDE3 and KDE3 apps
[15:27] <MarcC-backroom> how do I edit the KDE session to prevent some apps from restarting at login?
[15:27] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: I just told you
[15:28] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, sorry, I can't get there, is there a cmd line way?
[15:28] <stdin> why can't you get there?
[15:28] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, no windeco
[15:29] <MarcC-backroom> I try to run kwin --replace from the console and it logs me out :-/
[15:30] <stdin> I think in ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc add "excludeApps=compiz"
[15:30] <MarcC-backroom> awesome, I'll try that, thanks stdin
[15:31] <stdin> put it under "[General]"
[15:32] <_abbenormal> stdin, you have a few minutes
[15:32] <stdin> probably
[15:33] <_abbenormal> cool
[15:33] <_abbenormal> ok im tring to use a multiproto driver for testing new dvb cards
[15:34] <kblin> hi folks
[15:34] <_abbenormal>  the way i know how to work it is build it outside of the kernel
[15:34] <_abbenormal> then install it to the modules folder related to the kernel
[15:35] <stdin> right
[15:35] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, thanks, that worked...how do I manually save my session, btw?
[15:35] <_abbenormal> so whne i make a kernel for debian and install it it makes a sub folder for modules under the name of the kernel
[15:35] <kblin> I need to upgrade a gutsy box to hardy (to get some software that doesn't really work in gutsy yet), but over a rather slow link, what'd be the best way to do this?
[15:36] <_abbenormal> i then install the prototype drivers to it
[15:36] <kblin> I'm happy to run it doing an aptitude dist-upgrade over night if it doesn't require user interaction
[15:36] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: hmm, not sure actually. I've never needed to manually save my session
[15:37] <veloxid> hey I have a problem with my speedstepping, i have a 2ghz centrino_m dothan but the max_freq is 600Mhz
[15:37] <_abbenormal> when i make a normal kernel under my debain box i dont have to use intrd in the command line
[15:37] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, I ask because I changed system settings to load a manually saved session at startup
[15:37] <stdin> _abbenormal: the initrd has it's own command in grub, septate from the kernel line
[15:38] <_abbenormal> yes i understand that
[15:38] <flipstar> hi, i want to create a very simple website..any good, easy tools for that ?
[15:38] <_abbenormal> but if i dont use one it wont boot the drive
[15:39] <llutz> flipstar: vi
[15:39] <flipstar> llutz: im not so good in html..
[15:39] <flipstar> it basicly should just contain to images to 2 different index.html's
[15:39] <llutz> flipstar: http://www.selfhtml.org/
[15:39] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: ask in #kde maybe
[15:40] <veloxid> hey flipstar! Still have my problem with the speedstepping
[15:40] <stdin> _abbenormal: what happens when you try to boot the compiled kernel?
[15:41] <flipstar> veloxid: tryed the gutsy live cd ?
[15:41] <stdin> flipstar: quanta?
[15:42] <flipstar> i'll check this, thanks
[15:42] <_abbenormal> it go into kernel panic and gives a vfs error not found at hd0,0
[15:42] <veloxid> flipstar: yeah tried it, but it run on 600mhz too,
[15:42] <stdin> yeah, that means it wants a initrd image
[15:42] <stdin> or the one given is bad
[15:43] <veloxid> but found out, that the kernel-modul   p4-clockmod"
[15:43] <veloxid> did not run,
[15:43] <_abbenormal> ok so then kubuntu has to use initrd to boot the drive
[15:43] <dwidmann> kind of an offtopic question, but something I need to ask -- My CPU temp is looking pretty crazy right away on a cold boot, it's reading around 55-60 whereas other things are reading anywhere from 22-32. I've heard sometimes it misreports by like double/half/etc, is this likely to be the case or do I have a seriously bad CPU temp problem?
[15:43] <flipstar> dwidmann: open the case and check out :)
[15:43] <stdin> _abbenormal: it's a kernel compile-time option, should have noting to do with the distro
[15:44] <SlimeyPete> dwidmann: if I were you I'd assume the latter, just in case. Generally the inbuilt thermometers are pretty good.
[15:44] <_abbenormal> just seams strange to have to build extra items when in the mian os its not needed
[15:44] <stdin> can't you just compile the module against the current kernel?
[15:44] <SlimeyPete> though 50-60 idle temp isn't unheard-of for some processors
[15:44] <SlimeyPete> especially if you have a small case and stock cooling
[15:44] <veloxid> so I started it, now i find the folder cpu_freq, but the problem is that the cpuinfo_max_freq is on 600Mhz, and is not changable
[15:45] <_abbenormal> nope wont load no place to install the drivers that it finds
[15:45] <dwidmann> SlimeyPete: flipstar: well, I've checked everything I could think of, twice. I just can't believe that it would be at 60C on a COLD boot, where the ambient temperature in my room is about .... 60F or so.
[15:45] <_abbenormal> and if i compile them into the kernel then everytime i try a new driver or change what the driver does i have to then compile a kernel
[15:46] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, thanks, got the answer in #kde - if you change to manual you get a new option on your KMenu to save session
[15:46] <_abbenormal> where im use to stoping the driver then compiling just the driver and not having to make a new kernel each time
[15:46] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: so I saw ;)
[15:46] <MarcC-backroom> can somebody tell me how I can mount a CIFS share at startup? Doing it manually now
[15:46] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, oh, lol
[15:47] <veloxid> flipstar: You have any other idea?
[15:47] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[15:47] <flipstar> veloxid: no..maybe report a bug..
[15:48] <_abbenormal> thanks stdin ill figure it out
[15:48] <MarcC-backroom> thanks stdin
[15:48] <veloxid> perhaps a good idea
[15:48] <dwidmann> SlimeyPete: flipstar: just seems a little crazy to me ..... because I once watched my temps when I used a hsf that I had forgotten to plug in and it was still ambient temperature on boot and took about 15 minutes before it hit 50-60.....
[15:49] <flipstar> dwidmann: it might be the sensor is detected incorrect..here i have the same..70°C instead of 50°C
[15:50] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, do you know if this will cause any sort of long delay when I startup and it can't find the shares? (if I'm on another network)
[15:50] <dwidmann> flipstar: hmm, I'm guessing either +30C or *2 .... I wonder if there's any good ways of checking
[15:50] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: probably, yes. and you have to make sure that the network is up before it tries to mount them...
[15:51] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: you could do some fancy stuff in /etc/rc.local (rc.local is always the last startup tast)
[15:51] <MarcC-backroom> k, thanks stdin, doing it via the terminal is pretty fast, so maybe I won't bother
[15:51] <MarcC-backroom> although I wonder if there's a way to mount all 3 shares with one command rather than 3 separate commands
[15:52] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: sure, separate them with ';' ;)
[15:53] <MarcC-backroom> ooh, thanks stdin :D learning a lot today
[15:54] <flipstar> phew..this html thing is complecated for me..no wysiwyg editor :) ?
[15:54] <llutz> flipstar: openoffice writer :)
[15:54] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: you can use ';'  '&&' and '||' to string commands together. ';' mean "then run...", '&&' means "if that command worked, then run..." and '||' means "if that command failed, then run..."
[15:54] <MarcC-backroom> ho ho ho
[15:55] <MarcC-backroom> now that's cool
[15:55] <LaVitaBella> Hello can somebody help me please where can i find the IRC logs of kopete?
[15:55] <MarcC-backroom> stdin, if those are 'sudo' commands, will it ask for the pass x3?
[15:55] <stdin> LaVitaBella: probably in ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs
[15:55] <stdin> MarcC-backroom: no, sudo only asks once every (by default) 15 mins per terminal
[15:56] <MarcC-backroom> coool
[15:57] <flipstar> llutz: haha thx :=)) seems to work
[16:19] <Andre_Re> hi
[16:20] <Andre_Re> hi+
[16:20] <Andre_Re> i have a problem with kubuntu
[16:20] <Andre_Re> the wlan is extremely slowly and sometimes the connection dies
[16:21] <Breetai> hey all, running hardy kubuntu beta. My monitor blanks after 45 minutes. Even when I change the Power saving settings in the Kontrol Panel, it somehone gets renabled. ANy clues what is going on?
[16:22] <algyz> !hardy | Breetai
[16:22] <ubotu> Breetai: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[16:24] <Breetai> Thanks did not know about #ubuntu+1
[16:28] <tashiro> i just created a new partition using qtparted when i copy data however i get an errorr:"access denied" sum 1help
[16:30] <tashiro> any 1?
[16:31] <MarcC-backroom> !asking-proper-questions
[16:31] <MarcC-backroom> darn
[16:31] <tashiro> excuse me?
[16:32] <MarcC-backroom> !ask-your-freaking-question
[16:32] <MarcC-backroom> didn't work either
[16:32] <MarcC-backroom> sorry, just preparing for later
[16:32] <tashiro> wtf?
[16:32] <MarcC-backroom> tashiro, good luck, hope sum1 answers
[16:32] <hydrogen> !ask
[16:32] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[16:33] <MarcC-backroom> DUDE there it is
[16:33] <hydrogen> !en | MarcC-backroom
[16:33] <ubotu> MarcC-backroom: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[16:33] <MarcC-backroom> rofl
[16:33] <Pici> !msgthebot
[16:33] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:33] <hydrogen> "sum1" isn't english
[16:33] <MarcC-backroom> | tashiro
[16:33] <tashiro> english is not my langugage
[16:33] <tashiro> language
[16:33] <MarcC-backroom> tashiro, #kubuntu-tashirese
[16:34] <Jucato> MarcC-backroom: enough of that please
[16:34] <tashiro> i dont see wy u have to shit on me just because my english is no good
[16:34] <Pici> tashiro: calm down.
[16:34] <trappist> tashiro: language, please
[16:35] <Pici> tashiro: Whats your native language?
[16:35] <tashiro> TSHIVENDA
[16:35] <Pici> tashiro: actually, nevermind, your first question was quite well worded.
[16:35] <hydrogen> this has gone out of control.
[16:35] <petr> #ubuntu-cz
[16:36] <trappist> tashiro: your english skills are fine
[16:36] <Jucato> tashiro: you English is fine, just please avoid using "any1" or "u" and type in complete words
[16:36] <tashiro> can some one help me then?
[16:36] <trpr> oy. the backlash against the aolisms. i wish we as a channel could just quietly look the other way :(
[16:37] <trappist> trpr: I do look the other way - you're more likely to get help when people aren't looking the other way
[16:37] <MarcC-backroom> I am on a fixed income I cant afford AOL language lessons
[16:37] <Jucato> tashiro: my guess is that your newly created partition is just not mounted properly
[16:38] <tashiro> not mounted properly?
[16:38] <trappist> tashiro: mounted with wrong ownership/permissions
[16:38] <trappist> wrong for your purposes, anyway
[16:38] <Jucato> not mounted with correct permissions to be writeable
[16:38] <MarcC-backroom> tashiro, how are you mounting the partition
[16:39] <tashiro> well i set it to writeable in the system settings
[16:41] <MarcC-backroom> tashiro, partition type?
[16:41] <tashiro> ext3
[16:41] <BlackAura> So I'm still having the .deb files being 0 bytes problem......
[16:42] <BlackAura> It was confirmed by someone else when I brought it up a week ago, I'm surprised it hasn't been fixed yet......does anyone know of another kubuntu repository other than kubuntu.org/...
[16:43] <MarcC-backroom> tashiro, so is the partition listed in /etc/fstab?
[16:44] <BlackAura> or would someone mind checking to see if they can download this file for me?  http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/pool-edgy/kdelibs/kdelibs-data_3.5.6-0ubuntu1.1really3.5.5_all.deb  when I try to grab it, or any other .deb file from kubuntu.org/packages, I get a 0 byte file.  All the .diff.gz files are okay, and any other files I've checked are okay, but the .deb ones don't seem to work....is it just me?
[16:44] <tashiro> yeah
[16:44] <MarcC-backroom> tashiro, it would help to see /etc/fstab perhaps
[16:51] <alx54> eerm anybody know how to make strigi keep its index? i dont want to index my whole disk before searching everytime =(
[16:58] <Xbehave> what program is responsible for buffering streams. say im watching a film in firefox3 using mplayer, is it the plugin or mplayer that decides how long to buffer for
[16:59] <MarcC-backroom> Xbehave, that's mplayer plugin, and I think you can change that in its configuration
[16:59] <MarcC-backroom> I made a bunch of changes to it and wow, major difference
[17:00] <MarcC-backroom> Xbehave, http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/config.php
[17:00] <Xbehave> thx
[17:07] <genii> alx54: KDE is incorporating soon nepomukserver which is a DBUS based program which allows configuring of strigi beyond the usual strigi:/ method in file browser. But it not yet packaged for ubuntu, although you can manually install if desired.
[17:09] <alx54> genii thanks! so if i wanna have a usable desktopsearch in kubuntu, i'll have to use Beagle (with Kerry frontend) ?
[17:09] <genii> alx54: For now thats probably your best option
[17:09] <alx54> genii cool thanks!
[17:10] <genii> alx54: np
[17:29] <ryancleminson> Evening All
[17:31] <user1_> in firefox how do i resume downloading of downthemall ?
[17:31] <flipstar> is there an application that shows the size of an window ?
[17:31] <ryancleminson_> Evening All
[17:32] <flipstar> nvm, got it
[17:32] <ryancleminson_> Does anyone know if Gimp is being updated in the next version of Kubuntu
[17:33] <flipstar> ryancleminson_: 2.4.5-1ubuntu2 is currently in hardy
[17:34] <ryancleminson_> cheers Flipstar
[17:34] <user1_> in firefox how do i resume downloading of downthemall ?
[17:34] <ryancleminson_> I know there has been talk about something called Geggle?
[17:34] <flipstar> user1_: you have to install an downloadmanager for that
[17:35] <ryancleminson_> Anyone shed some light on this
[17:35] <user1_> f.k
[17:35] <user1_> flipstar i have already downthemall installed
[17:35] <julio1> hola alguien habla español
[17:35] <flipstar> oh..doesn't is resume automaticly .. ?
[17:36] <hitmanWilly> !es | julio1
[17:36] <ubotu> julio1: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[17:36] <julio1> ya
[17:36] <user1_> flipstar tools>downthemall>manager.       i got it. thx
[17:45] <elida> elida
[17:45] <makdaknife> makdaknife
[17:45] <flipstar> flipstar
[17:47] <reese_> is it possible to install the adobe flash player on a 64bit?
[17:51] <BlackAura> reese_: you'll have to run a 32-bit build of konqueror or firefox or the browser of your choice
[17:52] <j2daosh> hey all
[17:52] <BlackAura> reese_: generally you'll have to create a 32-bit chroot (it's another 32-bit system created somewhere other than your root folder), there are a couple HowTo's online to do it
[17:52] <j2daosh> how do i install kubuntu off the cd without having x running? for some reason i can get the x to load up on my laptop. when i look in the output files it says no screens found
[17:53] <j2daosh> correction, screens found but no usual configurations
[17:53] <XenThraL> I have 64 and I dont need to run a 64bit firefox
[17:53] <XenThraL> eh, 32bit firefox
[17:53] <XenThraL> to watch flash videos
[17:54] <j2daosh> what do i need to do to get x up and working?
[17:54] <BlackAura> I also know Gentoo used to run a dual lib'd system.......you had a /lib64 and a /lib32, and every library you installed used to be built for both archs, that way you could build a 64bit or 32bit app on top of it
[17:54] <BlackAura> j2daosh: do you have an ATI graphics card?
[17:54] <j2daosh> nope, a pos onboard intel
[17:55] <BlackAura> XenThraL: awesome!  Personally I was looking for an alternative as i didn't want to create a chroot just to have flash support in firefox......do you know how you went about getting it?
[17:55] <j2daosh> intel 82845g
[17:55] <XenThraL> yeah
[17:55] <XenThraL> same command as for the 32bit version
[17:55] <XenThraL> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree or something
[17:55] <BlackAura> j2daosh: ah okay, I had problems getting X to load on my laptop, and I had to install the ATI drivers before it would work
[17:55] <BlackAura> oh, cool, I'll have to try that when I get home....
[17:56] <j2daosh> ok, so how do i do that?
[17:56] <j2daosh> its the live cd version
[17:57] <BlackAura> j2daosh: well, that was because my laptop had an ATI graphics card that didn't like the default X drivers
[17:58] <j2daosh> i think i remember having to install nvidia for this the last time i tried it
[17:58] <j2daosh> how do i tell it to use a diferent one? xorg-reconfiure?
[18:03] <leo> hola al alguien
[18:08] <jonathan__> hello!
[18:08] <jonathan__> I've a further question :D
[18:09] <jonathan__> i try to sync my palm with kubuntu
[18:09] <jonathan__> so i had to log the port it'S connected to.
[18:09] <jonathan__> a logfile says following:
[18:09] <jonathan__> new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 31
[18:09] <jonathan__> what means this??
[18:10] <jonathan__> i need a /dev/...-port
[18:10] <flipstar> jonathan__: try <sudo fdisk -l>
[18:11] <jussio1> !portables | jonathan__
[18:11] <ubotu> jonathan__: Guides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/
[18:11] <FFForever> can i see the output from scripts on cron?
[18:18] <jonathan__> this doesn't work cause i'm using kde ;)
[18:18] <jonathan__> and's not neccessary
[18:18] <jonathan__> i just need the dev-port my palm is connected to
[18:19] <jonathan__> Apr 15 19:05:45 Kubuntu-7 kernel: [13969.673267] usb 5-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 31
[18:22] <Teo-> how can i add 4 workspaces to use compiz cube ??
[18:24] <mavi_> salve a tutti
[18:26] <jussio1> !it | mavi_
[18:26] <ubotu> mavi_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[18:27] <BudgetDedicated> I've just installed hardy, created two empty partitions after install with type FD (raid autodetect) on sda3 and sdb3. Modules for MD and Raid1 are loaded but still I do not get a /dev/md0 to create the raid with. What could be the problem?
[18:31] <BudgetDedicated> never mind just had mdadm create the device for me. lets hope it 'sticks'
[18:31] <sola> help please,i downloaded kubuntu 7.10 desktop iso image and booted m/c with burnt disc..its reporting critic error and prompting for username & password (live cd) , any default login details to enter inside
[18:31] <flipstar> is there a way to limit the .thumbnails/ size ?
[18:33] <flipstar> sola: the disc is maybe damaged..did you checked it ?
[18:37] <sola> flipstar, ok disc may be corrupted...i would like to know any way to enter with default login details...else will reburn the disc & try
[18:37] <KrazyWolf> Sup guys
[18:38] <flipstar> sola: it should autologin..login name is:ubuntu, password: none (no password)
[18:38] <KrazyWolf> How do you register your name on irc?
[18:38] <flipstar> !register
[18:38] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[18:38] <KrazyWolf> that doesn't help, flipstar
[18:38] <KrazyWolf> i know how to get a nick, i forgot how to register it
[18:38] <flipstar> i thought it would
[18:38] <KrazyWolf> Thanks for the try :)
[18:39] <flipstar>  /msg nickserv <nick> passwd or so
[18:39] <sola> flipstar, thank you, will try once and leave
[18:39] <flipstar> KrazyWolf: /msg nickserv register <your-password>
[18:40] <KrazyWolf> Thank you :)
[18:40] <KrazyWolf> Now to the real issue
[18:40] <stdin> KrazyWolf: you know that information was on http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[18:41] <KrazyWolf> i googled it but flipstar beat me to it
[18:41] <stdin> it was the link ubotu gave, the one you said dosen't help
[18:42] <KrazyWolf> I got wubi last night that installs linux on the machien as a dual boot type of thing, it was suppose to uninstall like any other program off the add/remove program option, well when I boot my computer I get the vista boot manager asking which OS to boot, I have Vista, and I don't know how to remove it! I tried to run the vista dvd and do a bootrec.exe /fixboot and a /fixmbr but it didn't take it away
[18:42] <sola> flipstar, if you dont mind have another issue, i am running ubuntu gnome version, but no suff space to install kde files, is there any way to redirect apt-get/ aptitude to redirect installation to custom location (mounted path of another partition) than default, if  this issue can be overcome will be of great helpful to me
[18:42] <KrazyWolf> stdin, I saw the "type /nick nickname" command and thats not what i wanted, Big whoop, I figured it out thanks to flipstar
[18:43] <stdin> you need to read what is given if you want help
[18:43] <KrazyWolf> stdin, I get the point
[18:43] <KrazyWolf> stdin,  your the only one that is complaning about it when it was a conversation between me and flipstar, its not that big of a deal, put a smile obn
[18:44] <stdin> to remove vista you have to format the partition with it on, after making sure to install grub to the mbr
[18:44] <flipstar> sola: thats very complicated..it would probably easier to try to resize the partition from a livecd..(after a backup of corse)
[18:44] <KrazyWolf> stdin, I don't need to remove vista, I need to remove the boot option of loading kubuntu when my computer boots up
[18:45] <stdin> ahh, that's would probably be in C:\boot.list (or similar)
[18:45] <stdin> try ##windows for the exact name (it's a "hidden" file by default)
[18:46] <sola> flipstar, ok will maintain a separate copy of kubuntu then...thank you
[18:46] <KrazyWolf> stdin, you know when you dual boot, and you get that boot manager giving you a time to select which OS you want to choose before it timesout to default? well I still have kubuntu-kde and kubuntu for some reason listed even after i uninstalled kubuntu through my add/remove programs like the program wubi stated it does
[18:46] <flipstar> sola: or you could try to chroot into it from a cd and then uninstall ubuntu-desktop, install kubuntu-desktop
[18:46] <KrazyWolf> stdin, I did some research online, but I find it a big confusing, it tells me to do some weird bcdedit commands because vista doesn't have a boot.ini file anymore
[18:46] <stdin> it's C:\boot.(something) anyway
[18:46] <flipstar> sola: but thats probably risky
[18:46] <stdin> ahh, well
[18:47] <sola> flipstar, but still present partition size(4 GB) is too small, i am planning kubuntu(kde3.5) then build kde4 on top of that
[18:47] <KrazyWolf> stdin, nad I thought running the vista recovery and doing a fixboot and fixmbr command would remove the kubuntu options but it isn't
[18:48] <KrazyWolf> stdin, the only reason I'm still on vista is because kubuntu refuses to work for me, i get the no screen fatal error message during its attempt to boot x
[18:48] <flipstar> sola: right..thats very small for kde3+4
[18:48] <sola> flipstar, got some idea, think its safe...using partimage will backup present ubuntu desktop, will go to bigger partition and restore there
[18:49] <flipstar> when it doesnt save partition information..sure
[18:49] <sola> flipstar, i got this clue from your backup, resize suggestion
[18:49] <stdin> KrazyWolf: according to http://www.vistabootpro.org/ they changed it in vista to be some command prompt command, you can either try using the tool on that page to try the command yourself
[18:50] <flipstar> sola: backup is only for security..the resizing shouldn't destroy data at all
[18:53] <KrazyWolf> stdin, I'm getting an error message with that program saying it can't find Vista or its installed on a hidden drive... ??????? lol
[18:54] <IS> hi
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> Real-mode Boot Sector
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> ---------------------
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> identifier              {c176cbe3-0a9d-11dd-9718-00508d9f5144}
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> device                  partition=C:
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> path                    \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> description             Kubuntu-KDE4
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> Real-mode Boot Sector
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> ---------------------
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> identifier              {c176cbe4-0a9d-11dd-9718-00508d9f5144}
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> device                  partition=C:
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> path                    \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> description             Kubuntu
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> That's what I need to delete!
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> But I can't figure how!!
[18:56] <KrazyWolf> That path doesn't exist anymore
[18:56] <flipstar> !paste | KrazyWolf
[18:56] <ubotu> KrazyWolf: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[18:57] <IS> you don`t use KDE?
[18:57] <IS> anymore
[18:58] <KrazyWolf> I don't use anytype of kubuntu anymore, I installed a wierd thing called wubi that does some dual boot thing, and when i uninstalled kubuntu from my computer through add/remove like it told me to do, it still shows up as an option to boot when i turn on my computer, and I'm running vista so that whole bcdedit thing is mad confusing and this vistabootpro isn't showing them
[18:58] <IS> yeah they kick you if you flood they did it to me once before i relized i posted the wrong thing
[18:59] <KrazyWolf> Only when I look at my BCD Registery Settings
[19:00] <IS> i can ask someone about it later like ten, but i`m not sure never used wubi???
[19:01] <IS> i could log back in tonight if i remember
[19:04] <KrazyWolf> Ya I don't know, even when I delete the entrys in my bcd file it still shows up by itself some how
[19:06] <IS> yeah might not have uninsalled whole file
[19:07] <IS> i gotta go srry ttyl
[19:33] <mavi_> ciao
[19:33] <mavi_> ciao
[19:34] <jussi01> !it | mavi_
[19:34] <ubotu> mavi_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[19:42] <feierfox> please recomment a PDF viewer!
[19:42] <llutz> kpdf
[19:42] <dthacker-work> feierfox: kpdf
[19:43] <cichy> Hi, I encountred problem with Adept Updater - status for some packages is "upgradable", but cannot upgrade
[19:45] <eagles0513875> cichy: r u using adept or a command line interface
[19:47] <FrauHansen> hi, did someone else notice the problem with libarts1-xine and mplayerthumbs?
[19:47] <cichy> these packages are from medibuntu
[19:47] <cichy> does anyone know solution?
[19:47] <cichy> After requesting upgrade explicitely, it says BREAK(upgrade)
[19:47] <djdarkman> Hi I`m developing a web app in php can someone recomend me a good lightweight mail server wich works automaticly with the php mail() function?
[19:47] <FrauHansen> i can only have one of them installed, when i install the respective other, the installed one gets removed
[19:51] <cichy> no one using medibuntu source?
[19:58] <flipstar> FrauHansen: that's how it should be
[19:58] <flipstar> they conflicting each other
[19:59] <FrauHansen> flipstar: thats sad :(  amarok without arts is a desaster and xine-preview is ugly (only 1st frame ?!)
[20:00] <flipstar> maybe try ffmpegthumbnailer or so
[20:00] <FrauHansen> i'll give it a shot. is it in the repo?
[20:01] <flipstar> yep
[20:01] <flipstar> in universe
[20:01] <user1> Could not load the Host USB Proxy Service (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND). The service might be not installed on the host computer.a  using ubuntu, virtualbox
[20:02] <llutz> user1: enable usbfs, use google how
[20:02] <user1> k
[20:03] <FrauHansen> flipstar: thanks
[20:03] <PhilRod> FrauHansen: "amarok without arts is a desaster"?! Shurely shome mishtake?
[20:04] <llutz> i don't like amarok, but it definetly don't need arts
[20:05] <emilsedgh> how could you dont like amarok!
[20:05] <eagles0513875> i love amarok
[20:05] <eagles0513875> and im using alsa on my machine
[20:05] <emilsedgh> there are actually two kinds ow human beings, those who love amarok, and those who have never heard of it
[20:06] <FrauHansen> well without it i have to kill artsd before amarok plays back any music (amarok/xine using alsa btw)
[20:07] <llutz> emilsedgh: 3, ... and those who just don't like it
[20:08] <emilsedgh> llutz: no no, not acceptable
[20:16] <flipstar> i know of amarok but purged it as fast as i could :)
[20:17] <flipstar> now using audacious instead
[20:17] <emilsedgh> so the third type is 3)who know amarok, but have not discovered how cool it is
[20:19] <flipstar> i fully discovered it before that
[20:19] <flipstar> it was just not what i wanted
[20:19] <llutz> emilsedgh: most of the time it crashes before i discover it's coolness
[20:20]  * emilsedgh is getting depressed
[20:20] <harmental> hey guys...is there any good software to make vide screen captions?
[20:20] <flipstar> emilsedgh: try audacious and you'll feel better :)
[20:20] <emilsedgh> harmental: try wink
[20:20] <llutz> harmental: recordmydesktop
[20:21] <emilsedgh> oh, right, wink is for tutorials
[20:22] <harmental> emil and llutz: thx u guys
[20:25] <oem> hallo
[20:33] <dthacker-work> !hi | oem
[20:33] <ubotu> oem: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[20:34]  * dthacker-work hugs his amarok
[20:34] <mark_> im using pygame in linux and the code" pygame.image.load " come back with an erreo that the file cannot be opened is there a different code for loading images when in linux
[20:35] <phoenixz> I have this music symbol in the system tray, it does not have a menu or identification.. How can I find out what this is, and / or get rid of it?
[20:35] <dthacker-work> phoenixz: right click does what?
[20:36]  * dthacker-work loses interest and wanders away......
[20:38] <phoenixz> dthacker-work> nuttin...
[20:38] <phoenixz> woah, bit of patience there please :) I'm attending some 20 persons here..
[20:39] <trappist> how hard is it to cross-compile for amd64 from an i386 install?
[20:41] <phoenixz> dthacker-work> sorry for the "slow" response of 2 mins there but do you have a clue about this problem?
[20:53] <TimS> Netsplit :o
[20:53] <Ketrel> Is there any risk of using Synaptec rather than Adept?
[20:53] <stdin> no
[20:54] <KrazyWolf> Hey guys
[20:54] <KrazyWolf> I just did a fresh install of kubuntu on my laptop, and everything went well, but I'm wondering how do I get drivers for my wireless card?
[20:55] <KrazyWolf> Anyone
[20:56] <dthacker-work> what kind of wireless card?
[20:59] <dthacker-work> phoenixz: I'm at work too :), without seeing the icon it's hard to tell what its for.  Your're description does not match anything I'm familiar with.
[20:59] <dthacker-work> !wireless | KrazyWolf
[20:59] <ubotu> KrazyWolf: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:00] <phoenixz> dthacker-work> on phone, mom
[21:01] <KrazyWolf> how else would I figure out what drivers wern't installed?
[21:02] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, ther are no devices configured in xorg.conf.  Where is kubuntu storing the config (and why is it breaking the standard)?
[21:02] <KrazyWolf> I'm in some window called "Configure "KDE CONTROL MODULE" and it shows my network interfaces, and it shows my eth0 has wired and it sees eth1 but it won't enable, everytime i click on enable it go back to disabled
[21:03] <lovre> i need help. Can someone tell me how to connect to the network with wpa_supplicant? It is on Asus eee pc, the os is xandros. Please help.. i know this chan is kubuntu, but i need help
[21:04] <terettes15> can i get a couple of names for mp3 converters?
[21:05] <llutz> terettes15: just one: lame ;)
[21:06] <terettes15> thank you
[21:07] <zerge> is there a way to make the kde menu sections to expand to the left? I got my kde panel on the right, and when the sections expand over the menu itself it annoys me
[21:08] <KrazyWolf> How do I run the update?
[21:08] <KrazyWolf> because I did the install without network connection
[21:08] <KrazyWolf> I open konqueror and it works, but how do I obtain additional updates for it or something?
[21:08] <zerge> KrazyWolf: you need to add repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list, then run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[21:09] <KrazyWolf> zerge, this is my first time EVER seeing linux, so you lost me
[21:09] <emilsedgh> KrazyWolf: adept
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> KrazyWolf: ah.... go into adept_manager->adept-> manage repositories
[21:09] <phoenixz> dthacker-work> on phone, mom
[21:09] <KrazyWolf> where the hell is adept? lol
[21:09] <KrazyWolf> do i have to run a command?
[21:10] <KrazyWolf> oh I see
[21:10] <eagles0513875> welcome back KrazyWolf
[21:10] <mavi_> it
[21:10] <KrazyWolf> Hey eagles0513875, thank you
[21:10] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: hows kubuntu treating u
[21:10] <mavi_> italian
[21:10] <KrazyWolf> I did a fresh install on my laptop and it works but I can't get my wireless to connect, but im thinking its probably cuz i did the install without net connection
[21:10] <nosrednaekim> !it
[21:10] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:10] <KrazyWolf> eagles0513875, so far im intimidated, don't know anything lol
[21:11] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: shouldnt matter
[21:11] <nosrednaekim> KrazyWolf: you have your laptop on ethernet now?
[21:11] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: do lspci for me and tell me what kinda card u got
[21:11] <KrazyWolf> ya I got it on ethernet
[21:12] <KrazyWolf> eagles0513875, when i run go to run command and type lspci
[21:12] <KrazyWolf> nothing happens
[21:12] <eagles0513875> open up konsole
[21:13] <KrazyWolf> okay
[21:13] <KrazyWolf> Broadcom corp bcm4306
[21:13] <nosrednaekim> yech :(
[21:13]  * dthacker-work hums the fwcutter theme song
[21:13] <KrazyWolf> its an old compaq machine
[21:15] <popojijo> i heard ubuntu has a usability team (that tries to make ubuntu user friendly), is that right? and is there one for kubuntu?
[21:17] <KrazyWolf> eagles0513875?
[21:17] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: what model compaq
[21:17] <eagles0513875> im on a compac pesario r4000 series
[21:18] <_myrtille_> popojijo: i think there's a usability team for kde but not for kubuntu
[21:18] <slkfskdlf> hey if something is LGPL and I modify the source and distribute it with my close source commercial app. I only have to give them the modified source of the LGPL thing right? and I don't have any other legal issues?
[21:18] <_myrtille_> but i'm not sure
[21:19] <KrazyWolf> R3000
[21:19] <KrazyWolf> So how do I get my wifi to work
[21:19] <popojijo> martalli: is that part of kde project or ubuntu project?
[21:20] <KrazyWolf> I did a command the "sudo lshw -C network"
[21:20] <KrazyWolf> and it lists my wireless card and says I have drivers, but its disabled for some reason, and everytime I go to enable it it keeps going back to disabled
[21:20] <nosrednaekim> popojijo: yeah, kubuntu has a usability contact, do you have a problem?
[21:22] <KrazyWolf> No one can help?
[21:22] <popojijo> nosrednaekim: well, is a person or a team? because id like to join it, or give some input
[21:22] <KubuntuJack> what is the problem ?  I'm no expert but had no problem...
[21:23] <popojijo> it's related to kde4
[21:23] <popojijo> i don't use kde3
[21:23] <nosrednaekim> !wireless
[21:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:23] <flipstar> is there a way to limit the .thumbnails/ ?
[21:24] <KubuntuJack> I'd hold off on kde 4 for a while..
[21:24] <nosrednaekim> popojijo: I'm not sure if there is a useability team for kubuntu, but if its a KDE4 issue, definately talk to the KDE usability team
[21:24] <KrazyWolf> nosrednaekim, that doesn't help me on why the device keeps turning off when i try to enable it
[21:24] <popojijo> nosrednaekim: where can i find them?
[21:24] <nosrednaekim> !laptop
[21:24] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[21:26] <nosrednaekim> popojijo: just a sec
[21:28] <DarkriftX> whats the 'name' for 7.10 again?
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> popojijo: http://usability.kde.org/
[21:29] <nosrednaekim> DarkriftX: gutsy gibbon
[21:29] <DarkriftX> ty
[21:31] <ibert> Help!my kmail deleted all my emails in my IMAP-Inbox when it crashed. Any idea how I can get the mails back?
[21:31] <fdoving> ouch.
[21:31] <DarkriftX> ok, i added 'deb http://www.virtualbox.org/debian gutsy non-free ' to my sources.list and im getting an error about the public key. the page that tells me to add this source says nothing about hte key, what can i do?
[21:33] <coggz> i have a nokia 6680 (60 series) and i use ObexTool 0.33, what better tools are there
[21:35] <ibert> does nobody know a tool available in kubuntu to recover accientienly deleted files?
[21:36] <flipstar> ibert: on ext3 ?
[21:36] <ibert> yes
[21:37] <llutz> bad luck
[21:37] <eagles0513875> whats the command to start compiz
[21:37] <eagles0513875> !bluetooth | coggz
[21:37] <ubotu> coggz: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[21:37] <ibert> shit
[21:37] <eagles0513875> coggz: someone was in dev channel this am complaining of obex issues u on kde4
[21:37] <flipstar> ibert: maybe try friendly-recovery or magicrescue
[21:38] <ibert> i'll check it out
[21:38] <coggz> eagles0513875: i have it working, via cable, i just want nicer interface
[21:38] <ibert> flipstar: they aren't in kubuntu :-(
[21:38] <KrazyWolf> Do I have to like set my network settings in order for the wifi to work?
[21:38] <eagles0513875> obex if ur on kde4 i dont think there has been a port of that app to kde4 yet
[21:38] <sourcemaker_> Can I use the SAP GUI for java in Kubuntu?
[21:39] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: depends if ur connecting to a secure network
[21:39] <KrazyWolf> I don't even know if wifi is working
[21:39] <KrazyWolf> It's not even detecting anything or I don't even know lol
[21:39] <KrazyWolf> This is so confusing
[21:39] <flipstar> ibert: you have to enable the universe repository for that
[21:39] <coggz> what is your laptop KrazyWolf?
[21:39] <KrazyWolf> Compaq Presario R3000'
[21:39] <flipstar> ibert: or ask your isp if he still has the mail's
[21:40] <KrazyWolf> I don't even know what to do or where to start lol
[21:40] <coggz> KrazyWolf: is that the broadcom driver?
[21:40] <KrazyWolf> yea
[21:40] <coggz> !!!
[21:41] <KrazyWolf> I already have the broadcom drivers
[21:41] <coggz> ok, i had that problem
[21:41] <ibert> flipstar: uniserse is on..
[21:41] <coggz> and i fixed it
[21:41] <ibert> flipstar: but magicrescue isn'there
[21:41] <coggz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[21:41] <ibert> but thanks anyway.
[21:41] <coggz> follow exactly
[21:41] <coggz> works
[21:41] <flipstar> ibert: you have to update first after enabling ..
[21:42] <KrazyWolf> I have gutsy
[21:42] <coggz> same
[21:42] <coggz> it still works perfectly
[21:42] <coggz> it is the only guide that i found worked, with 'no fluff'
[21:43] <KrazyWolf> coggz, this is my first time ever being exposed to linux
[21:43] <KrazyWolf> That tut doesn't look to friendly to first time users
[21:43] <mcbrandt_> agree ;)
[21:44] <coggz> it is easy to follow, i was total n00b, needing wireless on first linux experience
[21:45] <coggz> 3 steps, 2nd one depends on model
[21:50] <ibert> flipstar: thanks
[21:51] <flipstar> it worked ?
[21:51] <coggz> is it working? KrazyWolf
[21:52] <KrazyWolf> coggz, im doing ito n my laptop
[21:52] <KrazyWolf> but after i do that ftp command
[21:52] <KrazyWolf> it stays on "resolving ftp.compaq.com
[21:53] <coggz> it needs ethernet cable
[21:53] <KrazyWolf> lmfao
[21:53] <coggz> u did that?
[21:53] <KrazyWolf> now i did lol
[21:53] <coggz> lol, u need internet to set it up... crazy but a must
[21:54] <KrazyWolf> i gotta start over again huh
[21:54] <coggz> ...
[21:54] <coggz> lol
[21:54] <coggz> it does work when u do it right
[21:54] <coggz> lol
[21:56] <KrazyWolf> when i do
[21:56] <flipstar> any nice apache monitor's for gkrellm/kicker/desktop ?
[21:56] <KrazyWolf> whoops sorry, when i do "sudo apt-get install cabextract"
[21:56] <KrazyWolf> it says E: couldn't find package cabextract
[21:57] <flipstar> !info cabextract
[21:57] <ubotu> cabextract (source: cabextract): a program to extract Microsoft Cabinet files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-2 (gutsy), package size 52 kB, installed size 184 kB
[21:57] <flipstar> its in universe KrazyWolf
[21:57] <KrazyWolf> which is?
[21:58] <flipstar> goto adept->edit software sources
[21:58] <flipstar> and enable universe
[21:58] <coggz> !nokia
[21:58] <ubotu> Guides for smartphones and portable devices can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/
[21:58] <pcg|Raven-CSS> i cant get envy to work can someone help??
[21:59] <KrazyWolf> when i go to adept manager and go adept its only fetch updates and manage repositories
[21:59] <sourcemaker_> are you using already kde4?
[21:59] <KrazyWolf> ohhh i see! its teh community-maintained open source software
[21:59] <KrazyWolf> I got it
[21:59] <zorroloko> hey
[21:59] <pcg|Raven-CSS> i cant get envy to work can someone help??
[22:00] <flipstar> !envy | pcg|Raven-CSS
[22:00] <ubotu> pcg|Raven-CSS: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[22:00] <zorroloko> que hable castellano no hay nadie no?
[22:02] <Odd-rationale> !es | zorroloko
[22:02] <ubotu> zorroloko: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:02] <pcg|Raven-CSS> how do i tell what version of Ubuntu i have??
[22:02] <Odd-rationale> !version
[22:02] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[22:03] <coggz> KrazyWolf: how u getting on?
[22:03] <CN> hi all
[22:04] <CN> i am new around here, and i'm having some problems
[22:04] <Odd-rationale> CN: sure. just aks
[22:04] <flipstar> anyone know a faster image indexer than 'imageindex' ? im waiting several hours now :/
[22:05] <KrazyWolf> coggz, im getting a "couldn't open bcmw15.infi" at step 3?
[22:05] <KrazyWolf> do i have to go back to root or something?
[22:05] <KrazyWolf> cuz im still in that bcm43xx folder
[22:05] <CN> ok. when i try to update my kubuntu or install something by the console
[22:05] <CN> i always get one error
[22:05] <KrazyWolf> nvm now its saying driver bcmw15 is already isntalled
[22:05] <Odd-rationale> CN: what does it say?
[22:06] <coggz> hmm
[22:06] <zorroloko> porque falla tanto totem?
[22:07] <CN> E: O pacote flashplugin-nonfree não tem candidato para instalação
[22:07] <KrazyWolf> okay coggz, now when i do ndiswrapper -l
[22:07] <KrazyWolf> I get a invalid driver
[22:07] <Odd-rationale> CN: english, please?
[22:07] <coggz> oh,
[22:07] <KrazyWolf> I get a bcmw15 invalid driver adn a lsbcmnds invalid driver
[22:07] <CN> E: the package fllashplugin-nonfree does not have permition to install
[22:08] <Odd-rationale> CN: try this: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[22:08] <CN> kk
[22:09] <coggz> ok, did u sudo the last step?
[22:09] <KrazyWolf> ya i did sudo ndiswripper -i bcmw15.inf
[22:09] <KrazyWolf> so it says driver bcmw15 is already installed
[22:10] <coggz> ok, how long ago di u put kubuntu on?
[22:10] <KrazyWolf> than when i do the ndiswrapper -l command I get bcmw15: invalid driver, lsbcmnds: invalid driver
[22:10] <KrazyWolf> Like an hour ago
[22:10] <KrazyWolf> first time ever
[22:10] <coggz> ok, did u try other methods?
[22:10] <KrazyWolf> what other methods?
[22:11] <KrazyWolf> nope, this is the only time I've done something
[22:11] <CN> it says flashplugin-nonfree isn't actually installed, so any package was installed , remover
[22:11] <coggz> hmm, good.
[22:11] <KrazyWolf> I even went to like restricted drivers thingie and installed the firmware on it
[22:11] <coggz> ah
[22:11] <KrazyWolf> i followed another tut on how to do that
[22:11] <coggz> undo that
[22:11] <KrazyWolf> the firmware?
[22:11] <coggz> yes
[22:11] <KrazyWolf> ok
[22:12] <KrazyWolf> now what?
[22:12] <KrazyWolf> retry the ndiswrapper -l ?
[22:12] <coggz> yes
[22:12] <KrazyWolf> same thing
[22:12] <Odd-rationale> hmm. does anyone know if the flash package is broken again?  Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:13] <KrazyWolf> its been almost two hours almost me trying to fix this
[22:13] <coggz> lol
[22:13] <eagles0513875> Odd-rationale: i think thats portugese
[22:13] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: come back to it tomorrow
[22:13] <Odd-rationale> !pt | CN
[22:13] <ubotu> CN: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[22:13] <coggz> took me a week, then i found that guide, took 5mins
[22:13] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: ull be amazed at how coming back to things helps
[22:13] <Odd-rationale> eagles0513875: :?
[22:14] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: was it ever working?
[22:14] <KrazyWolf> eagles0513875, I'm going to have to lol, I have a huge project due next week and so much homework so iunno
[22:14] <KrazyWolf> Odd-rationale, what? for kubuntu? this is first time ever running linux on my machine
[22:14] <KrazyWolf> the wireless use to work without problems for windows
[22:14] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: u have us here to help lol
[22:14] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: your wireless card. what chipset is it?
[22:14] <coggz> i know, i put kubuntu on my dell
[22:15] <CN> it gives me the same mistake
[22:15] <KrazyWolf> broadcom 4306
[22:15] <coggz> same BCMxx crap
[22:15] <flipstar> omg indexing is at 'c' of 'a-z' and its running 5hours now ://
[22:15] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: I got both of my broadcom working with bcm43xx-fwcutter ndiswrapper did not work for me...
[22:15] <flipstar> seems like it'll take a month @_@
[22:15] <coggz> has it rebooted?
[22:16] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: i have tha tcard and it works outa box for me
[22:16] <KrazyWolf> I don't think I rebooted after I did that firmware thing
[22:16] <CN> Odd-rationale: it gives me the same mistake
[22:16] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: go to k menu then system
[22:16] <KrazyWolf> k
[22:16] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: reboot and it should and will work
[22:17] <coggz> firemware thing is crap, 11mbps and the range... well i hope you dont mind stitting near your router
[22:17] <eagles0513875> coggz: i havent had any problems coggz u werent having an obex issues were u transferring stuff from ur phone
[22:18] <coggz> ?
[22:18] <KrazyWolf> imma try to reboot
[22:18] <Odd-rationale> CN: try your language's channel. they may be able to help you out beeter.
[22:18] <KrazyWolf> I just redid the firmware
[22:18] <KrazyWolf> and im going to hang it up for the day
[22:18] <eagles0513875> coggz: were u talking bout a nokia and obex
[22:18] <KrazyWolf> my gf is gonna murder me lol
[22:18] <coggz> oh, yea, i got a program
[22:19] <coggz> obextools gui is nasty
[22:19] <eagles0513875> coggz: this might also interest u
[22:19] <eagles0513875> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebluetooth/+bug/217696
[22:19] <coggz> Qnokiacommander 0.5 is good
[22:19] <KrazyWolf> is it normal for the screen to stay black during boot?
[22:19] <coggz> i have no bluetooth
[22:19] <KrazyWolf> and than it flashes some text and than goes to login?
[22:19] <coggz> KrazyWolf: you have ati?
[22:19] <KrazyWolf> yes
[22:19] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: for me. yes
[22:20] <coggz> ok,
[22:20] <coggz> 1 mo
[22:20]  * Mr_Pan is away: Sono occupato
[22:20] <eagles0513875> !it | Mr_Pan
[22:20] <ubotu> Mr_Pan: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[22:20] <KrazyWolf> lol now it doesn't even show my device nemore under network
[22:21] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: call it a day dude we dont wanna be held responsible for ur murder lol
[22:21] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: did you try using fwcutter instead of ndiswrapper?
[22:22] <KrazyWolf> Odd-rationale, I did that fwcutter package install, and than went to me restriced drivers and installed firmware and used a local file that i downloaded off a tut
[22:22] <Mr_Pan> eagles0513875, sorry it's my away messagge in italian only ......
[22:22] <coggz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337932 for bootscreen KrazyWolf
[22:22] <eagles0513875> Mr_Pan: its ok thats a my bad then
[22:23] <KrazyWolf> Thx coggz
[22:23] <KrazyWolf> When I go to adept installer, nothing is checked anymore lol
[22:23] <KrazyWolf> I think I screwed things up big time
[22:24] <coggz> reinstall.. lol
[22:24] <KrazyWolf> ya im an idiot lol
[22:24] <desirix> lol
[22:24] <desirix> what a conversation *g
[22:24] <KrazyWolf> I don't even know if i want to have ubuntu anymore
[22:24] <KrazyWolf> so much headache already
[22:24] <KrazyWolf> I don't even know how to look at a "my computer" type of thing
[22:25] <KrazyWolf> or nething lol
[22:25] <eagles0513875> KrazyWolf: try kubuntu thats what im on
[22:25] <desirix> yes kubuntu is really nice
[22:25] <KrazyWolf> That's what i installed
[22:25] <eagles0513875> u said ubuntu
[22:25] <eagles0513875> there is a minor difference between the 2
[22:25] <desirix> yes kde :)
[22:25] <coggz> i love it now it works, it can be a pain at first - especially for our broadcom chips -
[22:25] <KrazyWolf> ya I know i forgot the K
[22:25] <KrazyWolf> I don't even know how to get the start.exe to run so i can reinstall it!
[22:25] <KrazyWolf> lol
[22:25] <eagles0513875> coggz: lol i hear ya it used to be a pain for my ati card but not any more not even for my broadcom
[22:26] <KrazyWolf> How do I get the start.exe on the kubuntu livecd to run?
[22:26] <KrazyWolf> when i doule click i get a open with window
[22:26] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: you need to be in windows to use the start.exe
[22:27] <coggz> yep, all sorted. im still a n00b at linux, but i got a fully functioning linux tablet pc, a broadcom infested Dell, and an old machine running compiz
[22:27] <KrazyWolf> jesus
[22:27] <basso> hey folks!
[22:27] <KrazyWolf> lol im not liking this at all
[22:27] <basso> i made a big bobo..!
[22:27] <basso> I deleted my KDE4 "Taskbar".. how the heck can i restore it..?
[22:27] <KrazyWolf> I quit for now
[22:27] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: are you dual booting that machine?
[22:27] <KrazyWolf> Thanks for the help guys, I'll be back later
[22:27] <coggz> kk
[22:27] <KrazyWolf> No Odd-rationale, I did a fresh install
[22:27] <coggz> cya round
[22:27] <KrazyWolf> but ill be back guys, def need some serious help with this lol
[22:27] <Odd-rationale> KrazyWolf: then just boot the cd a reinstall
[22:27] <KrazyWolf> Thanks guys, see ya soon
[22:28] <eagles0513875> later _krawek_
[22:28] <eagles0513875> sry wrong person
[22:28] <coggz> i like my tablet pc
[22:28] <eagles0513875> coggz: make and model
[22:28] <coggz> Acer Travelmate C111TCi
[22:28] <eagles0513875> nice
[22:28] <coggz> older
[22:28] <coggz> £150
[22:28] <eagles0513875> i have an hp tablet tx1308nr got in december cant get kubuntu on it
[22:29] <basso> i got a crappy Fuji T4010D.. and i hate it
[22:29] <eagles0513875> the machine im on now is an old compaq pesario r4000
[22:29] <crimsun> win 25
[22:29] <Odd-rationale> coggz: kool. i got a tablet too: toshiba tecra m4
[22:29] <coggz> how much u all pay?
[22:29] <basso> so no one knows how you can add a new "taskbar" in kde4?
[22:30] <coggz> !kde4
[22:30] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.3.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:30] <eagles0513875> 1000 usd and that included a 1gb to 2gb ddr2 667mhz duel channel ram
[22:30] <eagles0513875> upgrade
[22:30] <coggz> cool
[22:30] <eagles0513875> ya and just got vista ultimate x64
[22:30] <Odd-rationale> coggz: got mine free. my dad's old computer he got from work...
[22:30] <coggz> 1ghz Centrino, 512ram, bluetooth, infrared, wireless...
[22:31] <coggz> second hand from a computer recycling center
[22:31] <eagles0513875> both my laptops have no bluetooth
[22:31] <coggz> stylii are a pain for it though
[22:31] <basso> i got.. 1.6ghz p4, 1 gig ddr1 ram, bt, infr, wireless, and offcourse, a heatbomb
[22:31] <Odd-rationale> konversation has this cool /sysinfo script
[22:31] <Odd-rationale> Sysinfo for 'ddatabuntu': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)Mprocessor1.86GHz at 800 MHz (1603 bogomips), , RAM: 670/2027MB, 124 proc's, 7.35h up
[22:31] <coggz> heatbomb?
[22:31] <coggz> Sysinfo for 'luke-laptop': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.70GHz at 1700 MHz (3396 bogomips), HD: 38/53GB, RAM: 472/495MB, 146 proc's, 1.9h up
[22:32] <coggz> my dell
[22:32] <coggz> basso: what is heatbomb
[22:32] <ign0ramus> hey guys - i need help! i think i broke my linux!  -- my 5 month old install of 7.10 starting freezing right after "Running Local Boot Scripts" when starting up.  I was able to log into X by altering my /etc/event.d/tty* files, but I have to rig Kubuntu just to log in now!
[22:33] <coggz> !heatbomb
[22:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about heatbomb - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:33] <ign0ramus> Is there a way to regenerate working files?
[22:33] <basso> heatbomb: A computer that generates enough heat so the owner refers it as the heatbomb
[22:34] <coggz> oh, lol
[22:34] <coggz> my old box ran at 70 oC
[22:34] <coggz> i got it down to 35 maxed out
[22:34] <Odd-rationale> mine was a heatbomb... until i took out all the dust...
[22:35] <coggz> getting a new camcorder tomorrow
[22:35] <coggz> JVC Hdd one, works on linux...
[22:35] <coggz> copy and paste video off it
[22:36] <eagles0513875> coggz: i was serving a wedding at my church and it was funny this guy who had an hd camcorder that records to the small dvds and it seems like it takes up less memory when set to hd then with regular mode
[22:36] <coggz> Do any of you guys know about or belong to the cdc
[22:37] <eagles0513875> cdc? the center for disease control
[22:37] <coggz> lol, this is not hd, records to hard drive
[22:37] <coggz> eagles0513875: no
[22:37] <SlimeyPete> crudely drawn c...
[22:37] <eagles0513875> lol
[22:37] <coggz> not quite, if you dont know, dont worry
[22:38] <SlimeyPete> you've made us curious now ;p
[22:38] <coggz> i want their irc key
[22:38] <coggz> it is Cult of the Dead Cow
[22:38] <coggz> largest hacking group
[22:39] <coggz> i want to find out when goolag will be ported to linux
[22:39] <coggz> still interested?
[22:39] <SlimeyPete> oh right, yeah I remember them
[22:39] <SlimeyPete> well, I remember hearing of them.
[22:39] <coggz> i want goolag, but it is windows only, and no wine
[22:40] <coggz> u good at porting software?
[22:40] <SlimeyPete> nah
[22:41] <SlimeyPete> never done it
[22:41] <coggz> ok, u know what goolag is?
[22:42] <eagles0513875> wtf is up with this http://ubuntuforums.org/g/images/259341/1_bill_gates_ubuntu_mini.jpg
[22:42] <coggz> lol
[22:43] <eagles0513875> thats classic
[22:46] <kausik> hello
[22:47] <coggz> can i access windows protected folders using samba?
[22:47] <eagles0513875> samba works the other way round
[22:48] <eagles0513875> u can access windows machines without it but to save to linux based machines from windows u need samba
[22:49] <coggz> my school has "access denied" folders, can i access them?
[22:49] <eagles0513875> what kinda folders r they
[22:50] <coggz> access protected
[22:50] <eagles0513875> whats in em u wanna get at
[22:50] <coggz> i have student account, i want access to protected stuff.
[22:51] <stdin> samba don't give you access to things the server denies you access to
[22:51] <jeff__> hello
[22:51] <coggz> is there any simple way of gaining access?
[22:52] <stdin> we won't support/discuss techniques to gain unauthorised access to another system
[22:52] <flipstar> coggz: goolag is gnu afaik http://goolag.net/
[22:53] <coggz> afaik?
[22:53] <flipstar> as far as i know
[22:53] <eagles0513875> !afaik | coggz
[22:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about afaik - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:53] <eagles0513875> !info afaik | coggz
[22:53] <DamienGray> How do I get "unrar free"
[22:53] <ubotu> coggz: Package afaik does not exist in gutsy
[22:53] <rickest> DamienGray: apt-get install unrar
[22:53] <DamienGray> Thanks
[22:54] <coggz> flipstar, only windoze
[22:54] <rickest> DamienGray: technically that's a non-free version
[22:54] <flipstar> coggz: yes but they provide the source
[22:54] <rickest> DamienGray: apt-get install unrar-free
[22:54] <stdin> DamienGray: "apt-get install unrar-free"
[22:54] <DamienGray> Thanks.
[22:55] <DamienGray> Hm
[22:55] <DamienGray> It says it couldn't find the package.
[22:55] <coggz> oh, ya, but i cant port software -- can i?
[22:55] <coggz> can u?
[22:57] <jim> hey can any1 help with apt ?
[22:58] <JoshOvki> jim: whats the problem?
[22:58] <DamienGray> What do you need help with Jim?
[22:58] <coggz> ya jim go ahead
[22:58] <jeff__> ya coggz... I have the same problem
[22:58] <coggz> jeff__: y want goolag too?
[22:58] <coggz> you
[22:58] <jim> i was playing around with apt and tried to add a source and i buggered it up now i cant get it to work
[22:59] <stdin> jim: what error does apt give?
[22:59] <jim> this is what it says when i try to load it up
[22:59] <jim> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[22:59] <stdin> anything else?
[22:59] <JoshOvki> jm: did you try running them
[22:59] <jim> i initially tried to add a source and i think that THat was the problem
[23:00] <jim> yeh no luck
[23:00] <stdin> JoshOvki: they aren't commands on ubuntu
[23:00] <flipstar> coggz: if you cant do it by yourself you can ask these dude's to do so
[23:00] <stdin> jim: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[23:00] <jim> im runnuing Kubuntu
[23:00] <jim> how ?
[23:00] <stdin> !paste
[23:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[23:00] <jim> ok
[23:01] <coggz> flipstar: thats why i need the channel key
[23:01] <jim> jim@ubuntu:~$ !paste
[23:01] <jim> bash: !paste: event not found
[23:01] <coggz> i got in once, but they kicked me 3 times
[23:01] <flipstar> coggz: look on the website..
[23:01] <pteague> what app should i use to sync with my pda?
[23:01] <stdin> jim: read what ubotu said, ! is a command to it
[23:01] <coggz> flipstar: not there
[23:02] <coggz> secret channel
[23:03] <jim> Im lost
[23:04] <pteague> he wants his decoder ring
[23:05] <stdin> jim: open up your /etc/apt/sources.list and copy+paste into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, then paste the URL back here
[23:05] <LetsGo67> Here's the scenario: two computers are running Xubuntu 7.10 and they both have wireless cards.  I am using ndiswrapper on one, but not on the other.  The former has a signal strength of 4 bars, but the latter, only 1.  Both computers are at a 3 metre (10 feet) distance from the router.  How can I improve the non-ndiswrapper signal strength?
[23:07] <stdin> ndiswrapper is probably just reporting the strength wrong, is there any speed difference?
[23:08] <LetsGo67> stdin, if I move the router any router, it fails to connect.
[23:10] <stdin> LetsGo67: then it's just a side-effect of ndiswrapper, short of finding a native driver for linux, or replacing the wifi with a linux compatible one, there really isn't anything you can do about it
[23:10] <jim> i am having a bit of trouble but all i can see in the sources list is winehq and winehq save
[23:11] <LetsGo67> I am installing ndiswrapper, how can I discover the card model number without opening the PC?
[23:11] <stdin> jim: does adept work when you open it?
[23:11] <jim> no
[23:11] <jim> that error comes up
[23:12] <jim> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[23:12] <stdin> LetsGo67: usually "lspci|grep Ethernet" will show you
[23:12] <jim> i think i tried to to add xine or something as a source and fromthen on it didnt work
[23:12] <stdin> jim: ok, what version of kubuntu do you have?
[23:13] <jim> 7.10
[23:13] <LetsGo67> stdin, says "atheros"
[23:14] <stdin> LetsGo67: is that all?
[23:14] <jim> is there a linux program for dummies cause i think i  need 1
[23:14] <LetsGo67> I AM SO DUMB!    Will plugging the antenna improve my signal?
[23:19] <karl_> depends on the antenna
[23:19] <stdin> karl_: btw, you'll need to open the list as root with "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" in order to save it
[23:19] <karl_> but probably
[23:19] <karl_> stdin: and why would i want to do that?
[23:19] <jim> stdin your gunna hate me but i dont understand
[23:19] <stdin> LetsGo67: almost definitely yes
[23:19] <jonathan__> hello!
[23:19] <LetsGo67> lol
[23:19] <stdin> karl_: meant that for jim actually, don't know why I put you ;)
[23:19] <LetsGo67> lo stdin
[23:20] <jonathan__> I tried to connect my externel hard-drive to my kubuntu-computer right now and got circa 10 (not one, TEN!) Windows that a external drive was connected and 10 Shortcuts on the desctop... whats the reason for that? :)
[23:21] <stdin> jim: press alt-f2 and put in "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" (no quotes), then enter your password. when kate opens up press Ctrl-A and then delete to delete it all, then copy and paste the lines I put in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63359/ into kate and save, apt/adept should then work
[23:22] <stdin> jonathan__: does it have 10 partitions or something?
[23:23] <jim> umm before i do that, i found the add on that i put before it stuffed up !! should i first try and delete it ??
[23:25] <stdin> jim: the way I said will delete it all for you
[23:25] <stdin> Ctrl-A + delete
[23:25] <jim> ok
[23:27] <jim> ok i did that
[23:27] <stdin> after you save it, try apt again
[23:28] <jonathan__> no, there are no 10 partitions :/
[23:28] <jonathan__> only one... big...
[23:29] <jim> Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
[23:29]  * jim dances
[23:29] <jim> hehehe Thanks stdin
[23:29] <jim> can i keep bugging you about a few more things or do you wanna break
[23:30] <stdin> you may as well, while I'm actually here
[23:30] <JoshOvki> stdin doesnt have breaks, he is like some incredable machiene that just keeps on going
[23:30] <jim> heheh
[23:30] <JoshOvki> :P
[23:30] <junior> alguem fala portugues ae
[23:30] <junior> ?
[23:30] <jim> ok i have a nvidia card and i clicked it to be enabled and when the system rebooted the screens resolution was massive and i couldnt change it
[23:31] <jim> so i just changed it back to how it was
[23:31] <stdin> !pt | junior
[23:31] <ubotu> junior: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[23:31] <jim> also i am dying to have the 3d effects on my computer
[23:31] <jim> brb 1 min
[23:32] <stdin> jim: I think you do that by installing the package "nvidia-settings", then setting it in there
[23:34] <arcticpenguin380> will kubuntu like my mandrivas /home?
[23:34] <jim> bak
[23:35] <jim> ok so i just go to apt and look for nvidia setting yet ?
[23:35] <jim> yeh
[23:35] <stdin> the package is called "nvidia-settings"
[23:36] <stdin> arcticpenguin380: depends on the versions of KDE both use, generally it'd be fine but it'd possible that whichever version is newer will write a value that the other doesn't understand
[23:37] <jim> do i still click system admin > restricted drivers > click admin mode then enable the nvidia card first ?
[23:37] <stdin> well you have to have the driver enabled to use that tool
[23:37] <stdin> you can do that before or after installing however
[23:38] <jim> ok
[23:39] <jim> umm i search for nvidia-settings on apt and there isnt anything there
[23:39] <jim> do i do a apt update or something ?
[23:39] <stdin> after adding new repos (or replacing them) yeah. you may want to change them to a local server though
[23:40] <stdin> like "au.archive.ubuntu.com"
[23:40] <jim> how do i do that
[23:42] <stdin> you can do it via adept, from Adept->Manage Repositories
[23:43]  * Daisuke_Ido grumbles about ftp not properly recording macros
[23:44] <Daisuke_Ido> i need to upload a file twice a day to a webserver, i figured a cron job that generates the file and uploads it would be the best option, but if ftp won't record the macro...
[23:44] <Daisuke_Ido> !nickflood | morphi
[23:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nickflood - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[23:45] <stdin> !nickspam | morphi
[23:45] <ubotu> morphi: You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #kubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair to new users.  (Please set your preferred nick in your client's settings instead.)  The same goes for using noisy away messages; use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also /msg ubotu Guidelines
[23:45] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, fine, morphi.  decide on a nick already
[23:45] <X9nLinux9> Hi guys!  Just finished installing Feisty on my old iMac.  Has gnome on it and I'd like to change to KDE.  Would greatly appreciate if someone would point me in the right direction!
[23:45] <Daisuke_Ido> stdin, am i even going about this the right way?
[23:46] <Dragnslcr> X9nLinux9- install the kubuntu-desktop package
[23:46] <PeterFA> I need to have IE[567] Installed. I'm a web developer.
[23:46] <PeterFA> anyone know a good site on this? I tried a few tricks like wine and this script installer, but nothing works.
[23:46] <stdin> !purekde | X9nLinux9 you can use this to remove gnome if other methods fail
[23:46] <ubotu> X9nLinux9 you can use this to remove gnome if other methods fail: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[23:46] <jim> ok i am in software sources where do i put in "au.archive.ubuntu.com"  ?
[23:46] <Daisuke_Ido> PeterFA, develop to standards rather than proprietary BS (alternatively, you can look for ies4linux or use a VM)
[23:47] <PeterFA> Daisuke_Ido, I just got to find the rendering bugs.
[23:47] <stdin> Daisuke_Ido: that's the way I'd do it, or use something list sftp (or rsync if I was clever)
[23:47] <stdin> jim: it should have a drop-down list at the bottom
[23:47] <Daisuke_Ido> stdin, the issue i'm running into is that ftp isn't recording my macros :\
[23:48] <X9nLinux9> The 'Add Remove' has lots of 'stuff' in it but it doesn't show KDE specifically.  I don't have aclue how to find KDE or remove Gnome.
[23:48] <stdin> I don't really ever use ftp any more (not to upload anyway)
[23:48] <Daisuke_Ido> X9nLinux9, Dragnslcr just told you exactly how to install kde.
[23:49] <jim> ok there is nvidia gxl new thats not installed ! is that the one i click     ? cause thats the only one
[23:50] <stdin> jim: no, that's the driver, it's called "nvidia-settings" and it definitely exists
[23:50] <X9nLinux9> stdin Thanks!  So far that looks like a good start!
[23:50] <stdin> !info nvidia-settings
[23:50] <ubotu> nvidia-settings (source: nvidia-settings): Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0+20070502-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 675 kB, installed size 1616 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[23:50] <stdin> X9nLinux9: hope so, I wrote that myself ;)
[23:51] <level1> Hi, I sent some pdfs to my dad and he added some info and sent them back as .tif documents.  I cant find anything that can open a .tif... what sholud I do?
[23:51] <jim> ok mabie i am looking in the wrong area ! cause there is 2 nvidia things in there
[23:51] <level1> he made them using some microsoft product
[23:51] <jim> do i need to update to find it or something ?
[23:51] <stdin> jim: try making sure all the software sources are enabled in Manage Repositories (all the check boxes)
[23:52] <jim> yep they are all clicked
[23:52] <stdin> jim: then click "Fetch Updates"
[23:53] <stdin> level1: tif is an image, should open in most image viewers
[23:53] <Daisuke_Ido> unfortunately, tiff is a tricky beast :\
[23:53] <level1> stdin: apparently not these documents.  I tried firefox, gimp, gwenview, comix
[23:53] <level1> kpdf
[23:53] <level1> konqueror
[23:53] <stdin> level1: try okular
[23:53] <DamienGray> Does anyone know how to open "Tibia"? I clicked it, but it opens for a second and then closes
[23:53] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, so what's the most amazing video demo I can do on kubuntu?
[23:54] <jim> its downloading a heap of stuff now
[23:54] <jhutchins_wk> glxgears isn't really going to wow the average passerby.
[23:54] <level1> jhutchins_wk: compiz?
[23:54] <X9nLinux9> stdin: It seems to show how to remove gnome, but not how to get KDE in.  What am I missing?
[23:54] <jim> OK its there now :D
[23:54] <jhutchins_wk> level1: Well, I was hoping for something that would do it's tapdance without me.
[23:54] <jim> i just click it and install it now ye
[23:55] <jhutchins_wk> X9nLinux9: aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[23:55] <stdin> X9nLinux9: read the "Install Kubuntu" part ;)
[23:55] <level1> jhutchins_wk: you might be able to script compiz; or prerecord a session and replay it
[23:55] <Daisuke_Ido> again?
[23:55] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[23:55] <jhutchins_wk> (surely someone has done that.)
[23:55] <Daisuke_Ido> that's three
[23:57] <level1> Daisuke_Ido: what are you talknig about?
[23:57] <jim> ok stdin i have done that now do i enable the nvidia card and then reset the computer then go to nvidia settings and change it ye  ?
[23:57] <stdin> jim: should be as simple as that yeah
[23:57] <jim> ok cheers mate
[23:57] <jim> ill be back and let you know how i went
[23:58] <Daisuke_Ido> level1, just keeping track of how many times it'll take before someone realizes he's been given the answer already
[23:58] <geos> can someone help me with a kdevelop ui-subclassing-problem?
[23:59] <level1> Daisuke_Ido: who?
[23:59] <Daisuke_Ido> the guy asking about installing kde