[11:22] <bekks> wonderman: I found this in 10s: http://www.bittorrent.com/
[11:22] <wonderman> packages.ubuntu.com/  is still loading...
[11:22] <wonderman> http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/bittorrent-gui
[11:22] <sw> wonderman: you're in #ubuntu. and users come here for live support rather than being pointed to a website. they're capable of doing that themselves
[11:23] <wonderman> sw clearly not
[11:23] <sw> nicofs: so '$ dpkg -L bittorrent' and '$ dpkg -L bittorrent-gui' show the packages are installed, yes?
[11:23] <wonderman> nicofs: the devs website seems to be redirecting
[11:23] <wonderman> http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/
[11:23] <wonderman> i would use another client
[11:23] <bekks> wonderman: Please take a look at your link. That are the details of the Ubuntu packages - but NOT the official website of the client.
[11:23] <wonderman> bekks review my last link
[11:24] <wonderman> fuck im trying to help him, and you all turn up flaming me
[11:24] <fishcooker> what is the buzz abt PP than OO version
[11:24] <wonderman> cya
[11:24] <fishcooker> ?
[11:24] <oCean> wonderman: control your language here, please
[11:24] <wonderman> fucktards
[11:24] <FloodBot1> wonderman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:24] <sw> nicofs: you'll need both the 'bittorrent' and 'bittorrent-gui' packages installed if you want the GUI, can you check that?
[11:24] <oCean> fishcooker: Precise/12.04 is not yet released (now beta). Please /join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion
[11:25] <nicofs> sw synaptic was clever enough to install both... http://paste.ubuntu.com/921670/ is the output of dpkg
[11:25] <saulotoledo> hello all. I need create 3 chrooted machines to run different Apache + PHP versions/permissions/services in my network. Since all machines wil share the home directory, at main machine I want create the users and share this users between all machines, to avoid the same UID at different machines. What's the best way to do this?
[11:26] <sw> nicofs: let me take a look
[11:26] <daniel__> hello
[11:26] <saulotoledo> In other words, I need share some users at different machines
[11:27] <bekks> saulotoledo: Then you have to create the users on all machines, and share the "main" home using NFS, e.g.
[11:30] <sw> nicofs: I can't replicate your problem my end. can you try installing another client to test, for example Transmission by doing: '$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:transmissionbt/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install transmission'?
[11:30] <saulotoledo> bekks: The schroot system will automatically share the home dir, but if I create the users in each virtual machine they will have different IDs. I need them with the same ID to avoid mistakes
[11:30] <sw> nicofs: that's probably a better choice anyhow as it's regularly maintained
[11:31] <bekks> saulotoledo: Then create them having the same IDs.
[11:31] <nicofs> sw starting point for my quest was that transmission isn't working properly... oO
[11:31] <saulotoledo> bekks: Only editting /etc/passwd and /etc/groups, correct?
[11:31] <bekks> No.
[11:31] <wanderingi> I have a windows xp drive that im trying to get files from before it's changed. I have been able to get most things through ubuntu but when i open the Documents and Settings folder, i no icons are shown
[11:32] <bekks> saulotoledo: Just creating them with useradd and -u and -g
[11:32] <wanderingi> when i use the terminal, i get a number of directories listed but get i/o error when i try to view the contents
[11:32] <saulotoledo> bekks: Ah ok! thanks
[11:32] <saulotoledo> bekks: let me try
[11:33] <nicofs> sw, i could just install something else - i can live with any client... i just thought there was something obvious i may have overlooked...
[11:33] <IridiumScaffold> ok I'm having a weird problem: my ubuntu box is acting as a router, and internet access is working fine, but I can't log on to anything on the server itself. the login gets stuck after "logging as <user>..."
[11:35] <saulotoledo> bekks: This users will run from Apache, If I don't create passwords with useradd they will login at system?
[11:36] <bekks> saulotoledo: Without a password set, you cant login. And the user running apache is not intended to be used for login.
[11:37] <saulotoledo> bekks: It's this wha I want, thanks!
[11:37] <saulotoledo> bekks: *what
[11:38] <DropsOfSerenity> firefox bookmark bar too tall: screenshot from windows - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16248423/windows.png screenshot from ubuntu: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16248423/Screenshot%20at%202012-02-20%2021%3A09%3A46.png obviously ubuntu is using more space vertically, how can I change this?
[11:38] <DropsOfSerenity>  currently using class compact, but was wondering if there was a better way to decrease the vertical spacing, perhaps in userChrome.css
[11:39] <fishcooker> thankyou ocean for quick response
[11:39] <fishcooker> happy easter too
[11:39] <airtonix> it is?
[11:41] <sw> nicofs: it appears in my menu list my end, so I'm not sure what's happening your end, sorry
[11:41] <nicofs> sw maybe reinstalling and rebooting will fix it...
[11:41] <sw> nicofs: possibly. I'd suggest using Transmission anyway, but it's user preferance
[11:41] <carl__> lu
[11:42] <carl__> xdcc send #126
[11:42] <nicofs> sw, doesn't work... I'd love to use transmission... but it crashes permanently...
[11:42] <Fizzik> i have major issues with speeds using bitorrent clients in linux for some reason
[11:43] <xnixan>  Hi, any idea, how to sync android contacts with ubuntu?
[11:44] <airtonix> xnixan: without google?
[11:44] <xnixan> airtonix, yes!
[11:45] <rAg3-nix> cant you just export the contacts in csv and import it in ubuntu ?
[11:45] <airtonix> xnixan: i imagine it starts with finding an android program that exports to vcf
[11:45] <Fizzik> how does one disable auto dhcp and put a auto static ip to connect with using my wireless card
[11:45] <airtonix> xnixan: then import the vcf into thunderbird/evolution
[11:45] <rAg3-nix> xnixan: what version of android are you using ?
[11:46] <p`p> Fizzik, settings in the network manager
[11:46] <xnixan> airtonix, 2.3
[11:46] <airtonix> xnixan: infact on my samsung galaxy nexus running cyanogenmod 9, i can just export with the default contacts program
[11:46] <rAg3-nix> android 2.3 has inbuilt feature to export contacts
[11:46] <p`p> or you could go on onto your router and set your laptop to automatically get that ip address
[11:46] <rAg3-nix> are you using a custom mod ?
[11:46] <p`p> itd be under the dhcp services section
[11:46] <Fizzik> p`p: i just did that and i reconnected and it gave me the same prior ip address
[11:46] <xnixan> airtonix, thanks :-)
[11:47] <p`p> you may have to go onto your router
[11:47] <p`p> and set the laptop to have a static ip address
[11:47] <Fizzik> p`p: no my router doesnt work that way
[11:47] <p`p> which kind is it
[11:48] <Fizzik> i have to set manual dhcp and the ip i want from the laptop
[11:48] <Fizzik> Actiontec R1000H
[11:48] <p`p> yeah it works like that
[11:48] <p`p> heres a tutoria
[11:48] <p`p> l
[11:49] <Fizzik> there is no option in my router to have auto mac address ip signing
[11:50] <p`p> yeha this is rediculous confusing and composed of people on a forum post
[11:50] <p`p> goto your wifi card settings in the network manager for that network
[11:51] <p`p> and click on the settings for that network and theres a part to set your ip address and hostname and other stuff
[11:51] <Fizzik> yea i just found it i believe i just figured it out
[11:51] <Fizzik> brb
[11:52] <wanderingi> I have a windows xp drive that im trying to get files from before it's changed. I have been able to get most things through ubuntu but when i open the Documents and Settings folder, i no icons are shown
[11:52] <wanderingi> when i use the terminal, i get a number of directories listed but get i/o error when i try to view the contents
[11:53] <Fizzik> p`p: this network manager window is a pain in the ass and confusing, im still reconnecting with auto dhcp for some reason
[11:54] <p`p> im able to view miene just fine
[11:54] <Fizzik> im able to view mine but it doesnt seem to be taking what i put in
[11:55] <Lufti> hi ;)
[11:56] <Lufti> I accidentally deleted my /etc/init.d/proftpd file. Any advice to get it back? ;D
[11:56] <BOSSi> Dobrý den, jsou tu nějací češi? :) Hledám příkaz do bashe, který vygeneruje hodnotu indikující procentuální vytížení interface v PC. Existuje něco takového?
[11:56] <Lufti> I did reinstall it via apt-get remove/install but still doesn't exist
[11:57] <Fizzik> i turn the wireless device off p`p i enter in the new changes as manual then turn the wireless back on an it reverts back to old changes as auto dhcp
[11:57] <p`p> you probably didnt save them
[11:57] <Fizzik> i did
[11:57] <p`p> they are back to the  old settings now when you view them
[11:57] <p`p> do it again
[12:00] <Guest9654> can any one help me repairing my desktop manager?!
[12:00] <pentagonpie> ask your question
[12:01] <Guest65946> hello
[12:03] <xander> Hi everyone.
[12:04] <Guest65946> i can't get ati vedio driver work on my system,can anyone help me?
[12:05] <sacarlson> Lufti: did you try  apt-get purge proftpd ;  or whatever the package name is?
[12:05] <Guest65946> i'm using ubuntu 10.04,my vedio card is ATI redeon mobility HD 3400.
[12:08] <Guest65946> i active the video driver by using driver manager, i got a black screen after reboot
[12:08] <Hytredgh> GOOD EASTER
[12:09] <Guest65946> can't even go recovery mode
[12:09] <Hytredgh> HAPPY EASTER
[12:10] <Guest65946> i download driver from amd.com manually, didn't work either
[12:11] <iceroot> what is the best way to use a package from the 12.04 repos in 11.10? (dependencies are small and not important). apt-pinning on multiverse of 12.04? or someone has a better idea?
[12:11] <planon777> 11.10
[12:12] <planon777> &&&
[12:12] <planon777> ???
[12:12] <planon777> name
[12:12] <bekks> iceroot: You shall not mix that. It will break your box most likely.
[12:12] <iceroot> bekks: it will not
[12:13] <iceroot> bekks: as i said, small dependencies on unimportant stuff
[12:13] <n7> i just installed ubuntu
[12:13] <n7> and when i alt tab not all the programs are in the list
[12:14] <n7> (programs i'm using)
[12:14] <Kartagis> n7: you see only the ones running
[12:14] <xander> Does anyone have working front panel audio with VIA 1708S codec and an AC'97 cabinet?
[12:14] <bekks> iceroot: You have to pin all other packages (the ones you want to keep on 11.10) when introducing 12.04 repos to your box.
[12:15] <iceroot> bekks: ah ok, i thought i pin the hole 12.04 repo
[12:15] <planon777> hello!  help.s my!
[12:15] <n7> Kartagis, well i only see firefox
[12:15] <planon777> help
[12:16] <taher> hi there
[12:16] <taher> please i want to download videos from youtube ..... i want program to do this
[12:16] <planon777> i m russia!!!!
[12:16] <planon777> hello
[12:17] <planon777> america
[12:17] <n7> wtf i have like 6 xchats loaded up
[12:17] <sacarlson> !ask | planon777
[12:17] <xander> taher: VideoDownload Helper extension in Firefox.
[12:17] <iceroot> taher: youtube-dl (cli)
[12:17] <planon777> я из россии
[12:17] <LjL> !ru | planon777
[12:17] <iceroot> !ru | planon777
[12:17] <planon777> как востановить систему?
[12:17] <Hytredgh> TAHER, USE VIDEO DOWNLOaD HELPER
[12:17] <iceroot> way to fast for me :)
[12:22] <xander> Does anyone have working front panel audio with VIA 1708S codec and an AC'97 cabinet?
[12:22] <Guest65946> after installed fglrx video driver,i got black screen,can't even boot from recovery mode,ctrl+alt+f1 didn't work. i can only boot from LIVE cd, then rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf to get going again    how to fix it? plz
[12:22] <jiltdil> Please see this http://pastebin.com/ADbjjGpR   in terminal it is not creating symlink. Also how to close this after executing as it is not closing itself.
[12:23] <Pici> jiltdil: you're missing a ` on the secondline.
[12:25] <jiltdil> Pici,  oh sorry but i am doing it with  double ' but still not creating symlink
[12:25] <jiltdil> Pici,  Done :)
[12:25] <Pici> jiltdil: working now?
[12:26] <jiltdil> Pici, hm
[12:27] <DropsOfSerenity> no one ever is going to address vertical screen space issues in ubuntu ever huh? :S
[12:27] <DropsOfSerenity> firefox bookmark bar too tall: screenshot from windows - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16248423/windows.png screenshot from ubuntu: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16248423/Screenshot%20at%202012-02-20%2021%3A09%3A46.png obviously ubuntu is using more space vertically, how can I change this?
[12:27] <DropsOfSerenity>  currently using class compact, but was wondering if there was a better way to decrease the vertical spacing, perhaps in userChrome.css
[12:27] <FloodBot1> DropsOfSerenity: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:28] <bekks> DropsOfSerenity: And whats the problem with that?
[12:28] <sacarlson> seems I've lost the gpg decryption/encryption method plugin that was available in gedit when I ran ubuntu 10.04,  now in ubuntu 11.10 it seems no longer exists.  what is a replacement for this?
[12:28] <DropsOfSerenity> bekks, unnecessary vertical padding, where on widescreen monitors vertical screen space is the most important.
[12:29] <DropsOfSerenity> bekks, a full 14 pixels higher
[12:29] <bekks> 14 of how much pixels?
[12:29] <planon777> Hello! I'm from Russia in our chat ubuntu does not help those who can not .. can you help? turn off the light ... and then decided to run a computer run and he does not run ubuntu (visna) in the early boot after the name and picture is presented dramatically black screen, and then as usual it starts downloading displayed (letters, etc.) comes somewhere to sirediny and ostanavlivaetsya ...) what problemma??
[12:30] <DropsOfSerenity> bekks, of only 1050, it's important on widescreen monitors especially for those that have screens even smaller than mine, 1280x800, even 1650x900, this is very very bad
[12:30] <bekks> DropsOfSerenity: So we are talking about 1-2% of screen heigth, ok :)
[12:30] <DropsOfSerenity> i don't want to hear that it's not important, I want a solution and  a reason as to why gtk is padded so much.
[12:33] <DropsOfSerenity> there is a large amount of padding especially around the bookmark bar, the bookmark "buttons" are extremely large, it is unnecessary and it's not in any other OS and a waste of space.
[12:33] <four-20> HOw do i nadd my shortcuts on top bar of ubuntu 11.10
[12:35] <bekks> DropsOfSerenity: Personally, I never noticed that, since I am always disabling the bookmark bar. MAybe someone else has an explanation for that kind of gtk behaviour for you.
[12:36] <four-20> hey all
[12:36] <four-20> I like to add my application shortcuts on my top menu bar . how do i do that on ubutnu 11.10
[12:36] <four-20> i am kind a new user to ubuntu :)
[12:36] <mezod> hello, i am following this tutorial: http://www.torrent-invites.com/operating-systems/74772-ubuntu-seedbox-rtorrent-rutorrent-security.html and in the "rtorrent" section, when i try to ./autogen.sh I get "aclocal not found". Any clue of what can i do? there is an aclocal.m4 in the folder
[12:36] <DropsOfSerenity> I would love to know, it's been a long standing issue in ubuntu, fonts, vertical screen space, has never been as effeciently managed as in windows or mac os x. The Ubuntu font helped a bot, but gtk still has a large amount of padding.
[12:37] <planon777> Разрешить написание латиницей Hello! I am from Russia .. Can you help? turn off the lights ... And then decided to start up your computer to work, and it is not working Ubuntu (visna) in the early boot after the title and images are sharp black screen, and then, as usual, starts loading displayed (letters, etc.) occurs somewhere sirediny and ostanavlivaetsya ...), what problems?
[12:37] <gdane> hello
[12:38] <gdane> did someone try julius + pulsaudio?
[12:38] <planon777> есть кто живой
[12:38] <gdane> да есть
[12:38] <planon777> вы америкосы бля
[12:39] <planon777> русскии
[12:39] <gdane> это американский канал
[12:39] <planon777> я в курсе)))
[12:39] <planon777> они ебанутые не понимают не хера
[12:39] <planon777> Разрешить написание латиницей Hello! I am from Russia .. Can you help? turn off the lights ... And then decided to start up your computer to work, and it is not working Ubuntu (visna) in the early boot after the title and images are sharp black screen, and then, as usual, starts loading displayed (letters, etc.) occurs somewhere sirediny and ostanavlivaetsya ...), what problems?
[12:39] <gdane> лол
[12:40] <planon777> айм русскии ваня
[12:41] <SergeyIT> planon777, Yes! you are!
[12:41] <nesusvet> Please ban him
[12:42] <planon777> how to restore boot ubuntu? I will give $ 100)))
[12:42] <bekks> planon777: Using your backup.
[12:42] <sacarlson> I also don't see encrypt/decrypt in nautilus in ubuntu 11.10  did they change the name of the package for that?
[12:42] <esteven> sip
[12:43] <esteven> sip
[12:43] <gdane> how to make work julius with pulsaudio?
[12:43] <planon777> mode does not work repairing the recovery
[12:43] <gdane> or i have to delete puls and use oss4 instead off?
[12:45] <sacarlson> planon777: I would google for grub2 recover mbr
[12:47] <jamjam> Boot-Repair >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[12:47] <sacarlson> planon777:  you can just  deposit the $50 in my bitcoin account 1Nwjora7Ps87yVdpGH8JfhqdsFepDbrLwC now if that fails I'll return it.
[12:47] <planon777> Google what? you say? you tell me how to restore the system at 11.10
[12:48] <blask> how can I install ubuntu on MacBook Pro?
[12:49] <jamjam> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[12:49] <sacarlson> planon777: I don't speak rusian so google " grub2 recover mbr"  in google translate to rusian so you understand
[12:50] <planon777> всем привет ! я из россии у нас в чате убунту не кто помочь не может.. может вы поможете? отключили свет ...после чего решил запустить комп запускаю а он не запускает убунту (виснит)в начале загрузки после названия и картинки резко появляеть
[12:50] <bekks> ! ru | planon777
[12:51] <planon777> I'll start with the ass and mouth otymeyu member of blockages in the face will give you a rotten naked rhino and then translate $ 50
[12:51] <bekks> ! ops-alarm | planon777
[12:51]  * sw blinks
[12:52] <bekks> Thanks.
[12:52] <sacarlson> darn I didn't get my $50 deposit yet
[12:56] <sacarlson> doesn't anyone use gpg anymore?  what gui tools we got left if no gedit plugins and no nautilus plugins?
[12:58] <sw> sacarlson: there's seahorse, not sure if you're looking for that though
[12:59] <sacarlson> sw: no I have seahorse and do use it but that's for keys create and management unless they added something to it?
[12:59] <maslen> I'm on ubuntu 11.10 x64 with a 3.0 Ghz C2D, and xorg appears to be consistently using around 10% of my CPU just when I move around my mouse
[13:00] <maslen> does anyone have any recommendations on how to improve the performance of xorg?
[13:01] <sw> sacarlson: you're right. so what do you want these tools to do?
[13:01] <gadien> does anyone know where I can get info on a drive with no partition table?
[13:01] <sacarlson> sw: I want to encrypt an decrypt gpg files as I did in gedit,
[13:02] <maslen> gadien: File carving techniques - take a look at scalpel, for starters
[13:02] <sacarlson> sw: I have a file that was encrypted with gpg in gedit on ubuntu 10.04  and I want to decrypt it some how,  and if posible encrypt it again
[13:02] <gadien> maslen, thanks
[13:02] <Oins> I have an audio file from a dictation machine with the file-ending *.s32. Anyone a clue how i can import, play this file? Audacity and SOX was not able to convert. Also the raw import failed. Is there a s32 audio codec? Google & Co. was not able to help me ;)
[13:03] <sw> sacarlson: oh, not sure sorry, I misread you initially. although it's easier to just use CLI, a simple --encrypt or --decrypt is simpler than using a GUI
[13:03] <sw> sacarlson: '$ gpg --decrypt filename.gpg'
[13:03] <sacarlson> sw: it was just a right click and pick decrypt before, don't know how it could be any easier than that
[13:03] <wutang> How do I run Ubuntu on my iPAd
[13:04] <wutang> Hmm?
[13:04] <sw> wutang: you'd have to Jailbreak it, which is something that isn't supported here as it's illegal and also would be the wrong channel
[13:04] <sacarlson> sw: I may be forced to do just that if no gui tools are left
[13:04] <mikislav> hello, a would like ask.....
[13:04] <sw> sacarlson: no idea on the GUI side sorry, but that command should help you!
[13:04] <wutang> I have jail broken it
[13:04] <maslen> sw: I thought jailbreaking was determined to be legal, by some decision in congress
[13:04] <wutang> And jailbreaking isn't illegal
[13:05] <wutang> What is the right channel?
[13:05] <sacarlson> sw:  ya it can't hurt thanks any input is good
[13:05] <wutang> You Americans
[13:05] <mikislav> I have xubuntu 11.10 and I want xubuntu 12:04 beta.   Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[13:07] <wutang> He'll write up a boot loader in no time
[13:07] <jrib> wutang: stop. please.
[13:07] <bazhang> !ot | wutang
[13:07] <sacarlson> wutang: ya well my dad has 2 LEGS
[13:08] <wutang> Yes but my daddy caught a bullet with his bare hands
[13:08] <Agent_X> i got a q
[13:08] <Agent_X> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[13:08] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, DON'T click on suspicious links, and type « /msg ubottu exploit » if you want more information.
[13:08] <jrib> Agent_X: you're a few years late...
[13:09] <maslen> I wonder if it actually worked though...
[13:09] <jrib> maslen: some routers used to disconnect you
[13:09] <sw> jrib: yet people still didn't update it seems ...
[13:09] <maslen> jrib: Oh, I know that, it was just the timing of rayne's departure
[13:09] <jrib> !dcc | maslen
[13:10] <jrib> probably
[13:11] <hplc> morrn
[13:12] <Zaitzev> I just installed PlayOnLinux, and when starting it I get a warning message saying "You don't seem to have 3D acceleration! We advise you install and enable it." - I thought I had, since I installed the newest nvidia driver version just days ago.
[13:13] <sw> Zaitzev: #playonlinux
[13:16] <hplc> is there any easy way to get the right-click --> "create shortcut" back to the desktop?
[13:18] <ggherdov> hi all. Ubuntu Natty down here. My Grub doesn't countdown (i.e. I have a standalone server who doesn't want to boot, basically). How to give Grub a countdown? better: how to skip the Grub boot menu?
[13:19] <metallico> ggherdov, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-the-grub-menu-timeout-on-ubuntu/
[13:20] <ggherdov> metallico: thx.
[13:20] <metallico> np
[13:20] <maslen> If someone could take a look at this, xorg is using around 50% when I type in Lyx!  http://ideone.com/Go8vI
[13:23] <gadien> is my flash drive f*&^ED?
[13:24] <mikislav> hello everybodie, a would like to ask... I have xubuntu 11.10 and I want xubuntu 12:04 beta. But I have 2 partition (/, home) how to reinstall, to have home with all files, but without old apps
[13:26] <kalel> hi guys, is possible to insert a daemon wicd in gnome shell like applet?
[13:27] <pentagonpie> how can i log out of user from terminal when inside GUI?
[13:27] <schnuffle> mikislav: You can upgradeto 12.04.If you want a clean reinstall then reinstall create a new user and copy the contents from your old user
[13:28] <schnuffle> pentagonpie: ctrl+d
[13:28] <Pl3nar1us> How can I switch users from the command line?
[13:29] <jrib> Pl3nar1us: su - USER
[13:29] <Pl3nar1us> Thank you.
[13:30] <pentagonpie> ctrl+d doesn't work, i want to get back to gui user selection from using a terminal commend
[13:31] <schnuffle> pentagonpie:  sudo service lightdm restart
[13:31] <jrib> pentagonpie: how did you get to a terminal?
[13:31] <pentagonpie> GNOME terminal
[13:32] <gnuskool> hi guys, got a problem, which may or may not be directly caused by ubuntu, but hope you can help nonetheless, my router loses its dns settings every 10 minutes or so, active or not -why is this so?
[13:32] <kalel> how can I do
[13:34] <schnuffle> gnuskool:  what type of router?
[13:35] <FrozenMind> gnuskool: what type of ubuntu are you using? Dsektop 10.04/10.10/11.04/11.10 or Server 10.04/10.10/11.04/11.10
[13:35] <gnuskool> schnuffle: netgear wgr614
[13:35] <schnuffle> gnuskool: and how do you realize  that it looses DNS settings?
[13:35] <gnuskool> FrozenDesktop 11.04
[13:36] <gnuskool> schnuffle: if i lose internet, all i have to do is log into the router admin page and change the dns from auto to googles dns , restart - so I switch back n forth between the two
[13:37] <sacarlson> nautilus-pastebin seem to not be working for me anymore in ubuntu 11.10  with a right click on text files I see no pastebinit entry
[13:37] <a4u> hi all
[13:37] <Quantum_Ion> We are having solar windstorms today
[13:37] <FrozenMind> that is a new distro there gnuskool :p lol ok... i know with server there is a way to force take over of the DNS, that was why i was asking :)
[13:37] <Quantum_Ion> sometimes signals get lost
[13:37] <schnuffle> gnuskool: so for sure that doesnt have to do with your OS
[13:38] <a4u> anyone  from pl
[13:38] <a4u> ?
[13:38] <gnuskool> schnuffle: thought as much, but on the off chance that someone here might know a solution, just thought I'd ask
[13:38] <bazhang> !pl | a4u
[13:38] <schnuffle> gnuskool: why not just keep the google dns and check if theres a update for your router
[13:38] <gnuskool> FrozenMind: thanks anyway
[13:39] <a4u> buahahaha
[13:39] <a4u> bot
[13:39] <gnuskool> schnuffle: just uploaded latest firmware, but problem persists
[13:40] <schnuffle> gnuskool: hmm, normally the netgear stuff isn't bad. Have you tried using another router to see if the problem persists
[13:40] <mikislav> Hello, I have two linux distro on boot, but I want first remove. Problem is that First linux have bootloader. How to change bootloader to my second linux?
[13:41] <bazhang> mikislav, what are the two
[13:41] <Quantum_Ion> mikislav, You might need a hard drive partitioner to destroy one of the linux partitions
[13:41] <schnuffle> mikislav:  boot into the second and update grub
[13:42] <Pl3nar1us> gnuskool: Have you tried updating the drivers, or perhaps re-installing them?
[13:42] <Quantum_Ion> mikislav, Sometimes Ubuntu has a crazy way of splitting up your harddrive when you upgrade to a new distro of Ubuntu
[13:42] <mikislav> how it works? "update grub" sorry for my skills, I am fu-king new:(
[13:42] <bazhang> Quantum_Ion, thats not right
[13:43] <Quantum_Ion> bazhang, What do you mean ?
[13:43] <bazhang> Quantum_Ion, if you dont know, just dont answer
[13:44] <gnuskool> Pl3nar1us: might try, but all has been well for almost 2 years
[13:44] <insane-gva> hi guys!
[13:45] <CAZ_au> I like how ubuntu/nautilus shows text inthe icons of text files. But i dont want this to happen in HTML documents. Is there a way to disable this for html documents and show them instead as a normal icon, or icon such as the default firefox HTML icon in WINdoze
[13:45] <Buz27> Bonjour
[13:45] <Pl3nar1us> gnuskool: Have you recently had any major upgrades?
[13:45] <insane-gva> i'm trying to use my secondary display for fullscreen, and google is not helping so far... I have an nvidia graphic card, and application running is custom made.
[13:46] <schnuffle> !fr| Buz27
[13:46] <gulzar>  Please help. How to put this menu in menu.xml (openbox)  http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=openbox.git;a=blob;f=xdg-menu;hb=HEAD . In which format to save this file and which command to use in .xml file?
[13:49] <schnuffle> gulzar: the script will output xml
[13:49] <mneptok> mikislav: the "grub-install" and "update-grub" apps are the 2 you will use to move the bootloader.
[14:00] <tigers> Hello... im having trouble shrinking a partition in gparted. It refuses to shrink past a certain point.. how do i fix?
[14:00] <sacarlson> tigers: add a biger disk drive
[14:01] <FrozenMind> tigers: what type of partition is it? EXT2/3, EXT4, NTFS, FAT12/16/32, exFAT?
[14:01] <walidvb> hi guys!
[14:01] <tigers> Ext4.. Frozenball
[14:01] <walidvb> i'm using a custom app, that needs fullscreen on the secondary display. I just can't get it to work..
[14:01] <walidvb> tried playing around with metamodes, and more, but no chances... any clue?
[14:01] <Frozenball> aaagagarhahrharhr
[14:01] <tigers> Sorry. FrozenMind
[14:02] <walidvb> i have an Nvidia card
[14:02] <FrozenMind> tigers: don't be sorry :) just asking to help the question get answered :D
[14:03] <tigers> So is there anything i can do?
[14:03] <ivan__> Hi peeps. I have a problem with sound on the g930, it works when i test it in audiospeaker test, but not a sound when try yt or other music. anyidea?
[14:03] <ivan__> tryed find an answer for days but no luck.
[14:04] <DasEi> ivan__: alsamixergui installed ? check, if nothing is muted
[14:05] <ivan__> yes alsamixer installed, couldnt see anything muted. i'll check again.
[14:05] <Shant_B> Is this the right place for problems with Ubuntu installation?
[14:05] <schnuffle> Shant_B:  Yes just ask
[14:06] <Notimik> n
[14:06] <l3d> was wondering if11.10 of 12 for that matter  will have ubuntu classic in the login options or would i have to install it use synaptic first
[14:07] <FrozenMind> tigers: what could be happening is that you have a file at that certain cluster boundary. what you can do is make a back up of the partition and dump the current partition to allow you to move everything back in after the resize.
[14:07] <Shant_B> First off: I'm trying to dual boot Ubuntu on an HP system with Windows 7 preinstalled, And I wanted to know if anyone has a way of guaranteeing that if anything goes wrong I can revert Win7 back to how it was, like a recovery disk or something
[14:08] <tigers> FrozenMind, thats the problem. I have no space to backup, the partition in question is some 309 gigs big
[14:08] <schnuffle> Shant_B:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[14:09] <ivan__> DasEi: no muted as i can see, still no sound yt. Gah this is odd i'm most likely doing something wrong.
[14:09] <FrozenMind> Shant_B, when you install Ubuntu, you over write the partition handler with a new bootmenu (example Grub). from there, you can get windows 7 back with a recovery disk, but you will not get ubuntu :)
[14:10] <Shant_B> Thank you, but my main problem is this: the Windows partition is in "dynamic drives". I have researched this, and many people have had the sae problem as I, accidentally converting their drives to dynamic. Most support forums say you must completely format drive (since I only have one). Does anyone here have experinece with reverting from dynamic?
[14:10] <FrozenMind> tigers: aah, how much space is free on the EXT 4 you want to resize? you might still be hitting that cluster boundary... do you know if you have large files like 10gig+?
[14:11] <tigers> How do i see which file is in which cluster? Or how do i move all files to the beginning of the drive?
[14:11] <schnuffle> Shant_B:  sorry no reliable experience with that
[14:12] <tigers> FrozenMind,there is around 32 gigs free, im trying to merge two partitions by shrinking and moving
[14:12] <ivan__> anyone else had/have sound problem with spotify/youtube in 11.10? as i understand i dont it should work but..
[14:13] <zth> how do i use chmod to set permissions for a folder, and every subfolder+item in the folder? shortly, the whole tree under the folder + all files
[14:13] <Kaizen> anyone know how maxlogins really works? if i set a hard limit of 3 and the limit gets hit and everyone logs out then nobody can log back in.. i thought it was meant to limit concurrent logins
[14:13] <schnuffle> zth:  use the -R option
[14:13] <phong_> hi guys, why i can't connect as bridge mode?
[14:13] <phong_> i use vmware
[14:14] <schnuffle> phong_:  to get an answer you'll need to provide a lot more info
[14:14] <Shant_B> schnuffle, Okay, I was half expecting no one to know since the forums seem not to have answers :S
[14:14] <FrozenMind> tigers: the thing is, with EXT4, it crams everythign as close together, this is why you do not need to defragment your os/files in linux because is mashes everything as tight as it can, unlike windows.
[14:14] <zahid> facebook game are not running on ubunto
[14:14] <Shant_B> Anyways, in the event where I would start from scratch, is it better to install ubunut or Win7 first?
[14:14] <omkar_> hey guys
[14:14] <phong_> schnuffle, i use vmware, it used to work with bridge connection, when i updated something, i can't connect with bridge, but can only with NAT
[14:14] <phong_> why?
[14:14] <FrozenMind> tigers: so you might be hitting a rather large file that was placed at the end, it would seem to me...
[14:15] <schnuffle> Shant_B:  first win then ubuntu
[14:15] <omkar_> i have a monitor connected to my acer laptop, i m running ubuntu 11.10
[14:15] <Shant_B> schnuffle Thanks
[14:15] <tigers> FrozenMind, i've shrunk it as far as i can to the nearest 100MB(if that makes sense)... so if its a stray cluster then it is at the very end of the partition..
[14:15] <omkar_> the resolution the monitor is taking is not proper
[14:15] <schnuffle> phong_:  what did you update?
[14:15] <omkar_> if i mirror the image then to the image is improper
[14:15] <phong_> just like ubuntu update
[14:15] <DasEi> !resolution | omkar_
[14:15] <phong_> i justclick update
[14:15] <omkar_> monitor supports 1920x1080 display in windows
[14:16] <schnuffle> phong_:  the host the vm?
[14:16] <omkar_> thanks
[14:16] <phong_> the ubuntu
[14:16] <phong_> and also the host vmware
[14:16] <phong_> vmware tools
[14:16] <FrozenMind> tigers: looking at it like that, I would suggest that you should do a search ro use a tool that finds all the files as well as their sizes (sorry, i do not know of any) and then from there you would need to either copy it out onto a flash drive or delete it..
[14:16] <DasEi> omkar_: though empty, by default, can still use /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:16] <phong_> reguardless, can we get this work again?
[14:16] <omkar_> how to create a xorg.conf
[14:16] <tigers> FrozenMind,i just checked, largest file is 4 gigs large
[14:17] <omkar_> also would it override the default xorg in /usr/bin/?
[14:17] <DasEi> omkar_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:17] <tigers> FrozenMind,ok will try that
[14:17] <sw> !xorgconf | omkar_
[14:17] <FrozenMind> tigers: it does make sense :) and hmm... that is odd...
[14:17] <tigers> But are there defragging tools for ext4?
[14:17] <DasEi> omkar_: which graca ?
[14:17] <schnuffle> phong_:  of course, but i forgot my  crystal ball at home
[14:17] <phong_> help
[14:17] <LjL> tigers: there is one in Precise
[14:17] <phong_> lol
[14:18] <caB00T> @ schnuffle Big greetings, hope your doing good! :)
[14:18] <omkar_> yeah sw reading the link
[14:18] <schnuffle> caB00T: Hi doing fine
[14:18] <DasEi> :)
[14:18] <tigers> LjL,im on lucid
[14:18] <LjL> tigers: then none
[14:18] <omkar_> graca in the sense?
[14:19] <tigers> Oh boy
[14:19] <schnuffle> phong_:  imagine you have to answer following question:  my pants fall off, what to do?
[14:19] <phong_> pull up
[14:19] <phong_> pull my pants up
[14:19] <LjL> phong_: please refrain from the off-topic comments
[14:20] <schnuffle> people in here need info to sort out problems, so try to give as much info as possible.
[14:20] <numbie> hey , is there a nice programm to learn c++ ?
[14:21] <schnuffle> okay back to your problem. vmware player worked with a VM in bridged network setup, you did updates to the host and the VM and now it's only working in NAT mode? is that right?
[14:21] <FrozenMind> tigers: this might help you, i have not used this  but seems like the same kind of idea you are having :)
[14:21] <FrozenMind> tigers: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=232773
[14:21] <walidvb> i'm having trouble with fullscreening on my 2ndary display with my NVIDIA graphic card
[14:21] <schnuffle> numbie: there're a lot of tutorials or what do ouy mean with program?
[14:21] <walidvb> google and #nvidia are not helping.
[14:22] <numbie> learning by doing
[14:22] <tigers> FrozenMind,it looks promising... i'll try it.
[14:23] <schnuffle> numbie:  so get the code of some editor, like gedit
[14:23] <numbie> a programm with code included so i can shift things around and tsee what does what
[14:23] <FrozenMind> tigers: good luck, not needed to do this so i hope for the best!
[14:23] <numbie> im a noob
[14:23] <Pici> numbie: ##c++ probably has some resources for learning.
[14:24] <schnuffle> numbie: http://www.howtoforge.com/beginners_guide_to_cplusplus
[14:25] <fierman> now.. what is this shit with clutter gui being used overnight?
[14:25] <c__chp> numbie see these tutorials http://www.voidrealms.com/tutorials.aspx?filter=cpp
[14:25] <fierman> suddenly half of my machines is not able to run default applications anymore
[14:25] <fierman> fuck this shit
[14:26] <sean_> #pos
[14:26] <bazhang> fierman, stop the cursing
[14:26] <ivan__> i checked again asalmixer messed around with it and cant see no muted. Still it only plays sound when i test the speakers in the sound options. No sound in vlc or i-nett. Help would be appriciated indeed
[14:27] <Unknown0BC> How can I add evolution email to the email icon on the top navigation bar of oneiric ?
[14:27] <Unknown0BC> ( I removed thunderbird )
[14:28] <fierman> bazhang: i am sorry.. but this stuff is unexpected.. laid out a roadmap for production.. and now we are forced to start all over again
[14:28] <fierman> without being able to use ubuntu
[14:28] <fierman> over 120 lost man hours already
[14:28] <sw> Unknown0BC: have you set Evolution as the Default Application for mail?
[14:29] <sw> Unknown0BC: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Mail
[14:29] <fierman> unless we decide to purchase new hardware.. but that;s way out of budget
[14:29] <schnuffle> fierman: so what is the problem?
[14:29] <fierman> schnuffle: problem is that a lot of applications need clutter now..
[14:30] <T3CHKOMMIE> hey guys, anyone know why NONE of my iso have the "install along side" option in the installer?
[14:30] <fierman> and clutter only works on direct rendering capable hw
[14:30] <fierman> no recent nvidia card = no clutter = no applications
[14:30] <Unknown0BC> sw, yes. Does that mean its suppose to appear on the navigtion bar by the email icon ? Cuz its not...
[14:30] <schnuffle> fierman:  which application are you talking about?
[14:31] <innociv> I need to verify an email address to use it with Amazon Simple Email Service.  What's the simpliest way I can set up my ubuntu server to receive said email?  I installed postfix with email set to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>not sure what else I'm missing.
[14:31] <Pici> fierman: I don't understand why you say that this is something that happened 'overnight'. Did you upgrade to a new release of Ubuntu or?
[14:31] <innociv> if i sudo mail it says command not found..
[14:31] <innociv> Oh
[14:31] <innociv> I need mailutils
[14:31] <sw> Unknown0BC: no. '$ sudo apt-get install evolution-indicator mail-notification mail-notification-evolution'
[14:32] <Unknown0BC> sw ah :)
[14:32] <sw> Unknown0BC: ... I was just checking that you'd done that first
[14:32] <Unknown0BC> sw, yeah :)
[14:32] <schnuffle> innociv: you want a smtp server listening on port 25 and waiting for a incoming mail from amazon?
[14:32] <innociv> Yeah
[14:32] <T3CHKOMMIE> anyone know why all of my attempts to install ubuntu along side windows doesnt give me the "install side by side" option?
[14:33] <innociv> So I can verify I own that address and then shut it off and use Amazon SES
[14:33] <schnuffle> innociv: to own an address you need to own the domain
[14:33] <innociv> I do
[14:33] <innociv> dns points to this server
[14:34] <schnuffle> innociv: so where's problem?
[14:34] <sw> innociv: you have mx records setup too?
[14:34] <numbie> k .. i'll just do it the hard way ... what should i use to compile and write stuff?
[14:34] <innociv> Yeah.
[14:34] <innociv> Maybe i'm missing needing to allow an amazon server.
[14:35] <innociv> right now it's a matter of how to read the mail, but that might be because i didn't have mailutils installed.
[14:35] <sw> Unknown0BC: working now?
[14:35] <schnuffle> innociv: check the mail.log, you'll see at least that the mail was rehected
[14:35] <innociv> Oh.   What IPs do I need to allow for ubuntu's repos?
[14:35] <schnuffle> numbie: thats a question of flavor
[14:36] <numbie> does gedit sense c++ ?
[14:36] <innociv> I block all traffic to my server except my ip, and cloudflare, which is a bit of a problem. I need to open a bit more.
[14:36] <schnuffle> numbie: it has plugins to do code high light
[14:37] <sw> innociv: that's your problem then. once you've done that check mail.log to see if the mail is receieved and where, and then just open that mailbox using mutt or whatever mail client you use et voila
[14:37] <schnuffle> innociv: check your sources.list, resolve the hostname and you have the IP
[14:37] <numbie> schnuffle, python console?
[14:37] <innociv> K
[14:37] <Unknown0BC> sw , thanks have it working :)
[14:37] <innociv> Need to figure out amazon's ip too. ;/
[14:37] <sw> Unknown0BC: :-)
[14:37] <schnuffle> numbie: ? ipython
[14:37] <Lufti> how can i see which program is listening on port 21?
[14:38] <schnuffle> Lufti: use lsof
[14:38] <Lufti> thx
[14:38] <jpds> Lufti: sudo netstat -ltnp
[14:38] <numbie> schnuffle, i dont see that in the plugin menu
[14:38] <sw> Lufti: FTP?
[14:39] <innociv> How do I give my user permissions to read 640 adm:syslog files?
[14:39] <jpds> sw: That's protocol, not program.
[14:39] <Pici> innociv: easiest way would be to drop the in the adm group.
[14:39] <schnuffle> numbie: i think there's a gedit plugin package you need to install: gedit-plugins
[14:39] <innociv> A user can be in more than one group?
[14:39] <bekks> Sure.
[14:39] <schnuffle> and gedit-developer-plugins
[14:39] <Pici> innociv: yes.
[14:40] <sw> jpds: FTP uses port 21, so it'd be listening on it - no?
[14:40] <Lufti> I'm confused.  Still can't open it without sudo.
[14:41] <mogaj> I am trying to install ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop ... harddisk 500gb Ram 2GB ... how should do the partitions ??
[14:42] <sw> jpds: aha, sorry
[14:42] <Lufti> is there a command to verify that? A command to ask inetd for the status of my proftp (if it is proftp what is listening on 21)
[14:42] <schnuffle> Lufti: that is okay if ftp is not under heavy usage
[14:42] <FrozenMind> sw: i can make a ftp call out through port 1395 if i wanted... 21 is just the default... :) hence why hackers attack common open ports, like 80, 21, 22, etc... because people do not change/port forwards//turn them off
[14:42] <tigers> 50 for root,4 for swap,the rest for home... imho
[14:42] <compdoc> mogaj, let ubuntu decide
[14:43] <FrozenMind> tigers: so i am guessing you got it figured out?
[14:43] <mogaj> compdoc: ?? means
[14:43] <schnuffle> to check which process is on port 21. lsof –i :21
[14:43] <sw> FrozenMind: yes ...
[14:43] <bekks> ftp will listen on port 21, and will use port 20 tooo, by default.
[14:44] <tigers> Im busy shrinking again.. hoping it will work this time FrozenMind, i'll know soon enough
[14:44] <schnuffle> mogaj: my prefered is 500MB for boot, the rest as LVM
[14:44] <FrozenMind> tigers: good luck
[14:44] <tigers> FrozenMind, domo domo
[14:45] <schnuffle> Lufti: when inetd controls the ftp port its inetd that is listening on that port. When a connection comes in, it start the configured process
[14:46] <schnuffle> Lufti: which is apparently proftpd
[14:46] <Lufti> ah, i understand
[14:46] <numbie> i dont know what does highlight the code :/
[14:46] <Lufti> so it's better for the memory or performance?
[14:46] <schnuffle> Lufti: proftpd can run in inetd mode and standalone
[14:46] <bekks> Lufti: It doesnt matter for performance.
[14:47] <Tea> join #tremulous
[14:47] <schnuffle> Lufti: for memory its a bit better, cause the ftp process is only launched when needed, for performance its not so good
[14:47] <physically_fit> i know a dog called Lufti
[14:47] <Tea> Ignore that.
[14:48] <schnuffle> Lufti: the difference will surly not matter in your setup
[14:50] <innociv> And I'm trying to sudo cat /dev/null > sudo /var/log/mail.log and that's not emptying the log
[14:50] <Lufti> Thanks for your help! ;)
[14:50] <mneptok> FTP on this channel is a serious pet peeve of mine. use SFTP. in 90% of cases, it's better.
[14:50] <schnuffle> mneptok: true statement, but wont change the need for FTP
[14:50] <derebel> i have a drive that is detected and works for cds but is not detected when i put in a dvd, works ok on another box (not ubuntu), it's an hp usb cd/dvd writer
[14:51] <nesusvet> linux.org.ru
[14:51] <derebel> mneptok, agreed
[14:51] <mneptok> schnuffle: most users do not need it, they are just ignorant of the better alternatives.
[14:51] <nesusvet> ohh sorry
[14:51] <mneptok> not to mention the ease of setup of sftpd when compared to FTP
[14:51] <nesusvet> I mixed up windows
[14:51] <Lufti> I figured out my proftp wasn't started, though inetd listening on port 21. Killing the process and starting proftp in standalone mode worked and I could connect to the server. No Problem.
[14:52] <Lufti> Any idea how I can figure out was was wrong with inetd?
[14:52] <derebel> schnuffle, ftp is almost never needed, only when you have a need to implement an older bootstrap protocol or boot from network do you really -need- ftp, even then there are better alternatives
[14:52] <bekks> Using inetd mode, you'll never see proftpd running when no user is connected to ftp.
[14:52] <mneptok> derebel: and anonymous access
[14:52] <newtothisworld> Does anyone know any new features of ubuntu 12.04?
[14:53] <schnuffle> derebel: tell that all the poeple that have a website hosted somewhere
[14:53] <mneptok> newtothisworld: ask in #ubuntu+1 where people are actually using it
[14:53] <mneptok> schnuffle: a hosted website has no need of an ftpd on a users machine.
[14:54] <numbie> i think i need an inbuild compiler so i can easily run stuff :/
[14:55] <Pici> numbie: As I suggested earlier, you'd be better off asking for beginner help for C++ in ##C++ (its an irc channel here)
[14:55] <sw> numbie: if you're going to be building things: '$ sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[14:55] <schnuffle> i see  im misunderstood. FTP is not needed at all but required by the ignorance or better the unflexibility of the customer
[14:57] <DeLorean731> if I switch between consoles with control+alt+f# how do I get back to X?
[14:57] <schnuffle> but thats all ot sorry :)
[14:57] <Pici> DeLorean731: ctrl+alt+F7 or F8 should get you back to X
[14:57] <DeLorean731> thank you sir
[14:58] <aviraldg> Hey, can someone help me understand the concept of runlevels, especially in the context of upstart?
[14:58] <aviraldg> After doing some research I kind of figured out that a runlevel is like a "mode of operation" of the OS. So there's a runlevel for single-user-operation, shutting down, restarting etc.
[14:59] <schnuffle> aviraldg: maybe that is a good introduction: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html
[14:59] <aviraldg> But quite a few upstart scripts I've seen look like they're using arbitrary runlevels like "1234"
[14:59] <aviraldg> What's up with that?
[14:59] <aviraldg> schnuffle: I've read that already.
[14:59] <aviraldg> :) obvious.
[15:00] <L3top> The startup scripts indicate that they are running at various run levels, regardless of the current runlevel.
[15:00] <L3top> s/are running/run/
[15:00] <aviraldg> I mean I understood the significance of running at runlevels 0-6. What about ones beyond that?
[15:01] <L3top> there are no run levels beyond that
[15:01] <mneptok> aviraldg: Ubuntu does not use anything past runlevel 6
[15:01] <Pici> aviraldg: They are likely setup that way because in Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal, but upstart was created to be compatible with other distributions as well.
[15:01] <bean> yeah, 0-6 are the only run levels
[15:01] <mneptok> aviraldg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel
[15:02] <aviraldg> mneptok: I've seen that too.
[15:02] <mneptok> aviraldg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel#Ubuntu
[15:02] <mneptok> aviraldg: seen that? because it explains that Debian and Ubuntu do not use anything past runlevel 6.
[15:02] <aviraldg> For example, here's an upstart script https://gist.github.com/970181 for running gunicorn. 2345 sounds like it's completely random and above 6.
[15:02] <derebel> trying to manually mount a dvd that ubuntu didn't automount, just hangs, drive spins and mount hangs
[15:02] <tigers> FrozenMind, alas.. it didnt work
[15:02] <L3top> 2, 3, 4, 5
[15:03] <L3top> not 2345
[15:03] <mneptok> aviraldg: 2 and 3 and 4 and 5
[15:03] <aviraldg> Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... O_O
[15:03] <aviraldg> lol.
[15:03] <aviraldg> damn.
[15:03] <aviraldg> Thanks a lot.
[15:03] <L3top> np
[15:05] <aviraldg> So this basically says, "start gunicorn when the system boots up, stop it when it shuts down", right?
[15:05] <intore_> hi
[15:05] <mneptok> aviraldg: "start this thing up as long as the system is not in single-user mode or rebooting,:
[15:06] <aviraldg> Yeah...
[15:06] <intore_> i've problems connecting to local wireless network using network manager
[15:06] <innociv> How do I empty my /var/log/mail.log file?
[15:07] <innociv> I tried sudo cat /dev/null > sudo /var/log/mail.log
[15:07] <intore_> could you tell me about checks
[15:07] <Faskar> Ïðèâåòñòâóþ âñåõ, òóò åñòü ëþäè êîòîðûå çíàþò ðóññêèé?
[15:07] <schnuffle> innociv: how about using logrotate?
[15:08] <innociv> It's already used by default, no?  I have a mail.log.1
[15:08] <innociv> But I want the log emptied just so I can read changes from here out better
[15:08] <genii-around> !ru | Faskar
[15:08] <geirha> innociv: sudo sh -c '>/var/log/mail.log'
[15:09] <Pici> intore_: checks?
[15:09] <Faskar> thank)
[15:09] <geirha> innociv: Though, just run  tail -F /var/log/mail.log to see changes from now and onwards
[15:09] <intore_> if you can help me to find the problem
[15:09] <innociv> Eh I know, but still.
[15:09] <innociv> And thanks
[15:10] <geirha> innociv: You may want to delete the file named "sudo" created from the failed command earlier
[15:11] <intore_> no ideas?
[15:12] <schnuffle> intore_: do you see yourd wifi in NM?
[15:12] <aviraldg> Okay, so another related question (I'm quite a newbie when it comes to all this):
[15:12] <aviraldg> When rebooting via a terminal, or shutting down, I get to see a lot of messages indicating that a runlevel is being switched or that a KILL message is being sent to all processes, etc etc. That's in accordance with upstart scripts and init.d scripts, am I right (specifically, the "stop on" directive)
[15:12] <aviraldg> ?
[15:12] <intore_> i think nm doesn't start
[15:13] <schnuffle> intore_: can you start it in a terminal: nm-applet?
[15:14] <aviraldg> L3top: ^
[15:14] <schnuffle> aviraldg: yes
[15:15] <intore_> mmm, is already running but i can't ping nothing
[15:15] <schnuffle> intore_: what is running?
[15:15] <whoever> hi all, i got eclipse up but now my prevouly compileable programe gives me a major minnor version error. Can some one assist in fixing so i don't screw this up
[15:16] <innociv> hm
[15:16] <innociv> Why am I not getting an IP when I "dig NS security.ubuntu.com"?
[15:16] <intore_> an instance of nm-applet is already running
[15:16] <whoever> i know it has to do with jdk/jre versions
[15:16] <L3top> the "stop on" is what sends the kind disconnect and exit commands (stop), kill happens to stuff leftover, I believe.
[15:16] <innociv> oh wait i dont want NS
[15:16] <schnuffle> intore_: and does it has a wifi connection configured?
[15:17] <L3top> This way processes are not left locked open when you boot again, so they do not hang/cause all sorts of problems
[15:17] <intore_> yes, in system->preferences->network connections
[15:17] <schnuffle> innociv: why should you get an ip when you do a DNS resolve?
[15:18] <schnuffle> intore_: and is the connection active?
[15:18] <WHAT_UP> this might be a dumb question, but is it possible to check from within ubuntu if i have any available hard drive bays in my case?
[15:18] <innociv> yeah oops. Though i'd still expect ip from the dns, eh?
[15:18] <intore_> yes, am using it with another pc
[15:18] <dirigible> go to disk management
[15:19] <intore_> which log file could i check?
[15:19] <FrozenMind> what_up: are you referring to the mounting of hard drives or connections on the motherboard?
[15:19] <spartan2276> How can I make my logitech Webcam C270 mic work? I tried looking it up on google but only found this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1860715.html but it is not working
[15:19] <schnuffle> intore_:  you mean you have another pc which can connect and has an active connection? thats good to know but doesn't tell if your own PC has a wifi connection active
[15:19] <WHAT_UP> FrozenMind: ideally both :)
[15:20] <spartan2276> So my Cam works but not the Microphone
[15:20] <intore_> am sorry, i didn't understand. yes is active
[15:20] <L3top> spartan2276: are you sure that it is not simply muted?
[15:20] <FrozenMind> what_up: clerification, my version of mounting hard drives would be the space in the case for the hard drives, not the mount command lol my bad
[15:20] <spartan2276> huh? muted how can that be I went into the Sound manager an nothing
[15:21] <mneptok> FrozenMind: s/mounting/installing
[15:21] <whitekidney> Hi there, my harddisk says I'm using 170GB out of 220, but I only have like 96GB on it? http://i.imgur.com/ygwl4.png
[15:21] <spartan2276> it seems like is fine
[15:21] <schnuffle> intore_: paste the output of ifconfig
[15:21] <WHAT_UP> FrozenMind: right. i want to find out if i still have physical space inside the case to (usefully) put a hard drive in without opening it up
[15:21] <FrozenMind> mneptok: thanks haha, my bad... :)
[15:21] <spartan2276> L3top, how can I tell if its muted?
[15:21] <intore_> i just restarted and it runs
[15:21] <intore_> i don't understand how
[15:22] <L3top> in a terminal type sudo alsamixer   scroll left and right and make sure nothing with mic has an "m" in the box. If it does, press the letter m and it will unmute... assuming you have alsa-utils. I deal more with cli stuff, perhaps someone has better advice on the GUI.
[15:22] <schnuffle> intore_: open a terminal and type ifconfig | pastebinit and paste the url here
[15:22] <spartan2276> L3top, I looked at the sound manager in Systems Settings and it does not seem to be? is it a command line issue, if so can I get the command so I can fix it
[15:22] <mneptok> WHAT_UP: you could set up a webcam that points inside your case to determine free drive bays. other than that, no.
[15:22] <WHAT_UP> mneptok: thanks for the suggestion.
[15:22] <FrozenMind> what_up. to find out about the case you can either look it up online or sudo apt-get screwdriver && take out screws && remove case :) (and no that is not a real command)
[15:23] <whitekidney> can anyone explain how this makes sense? http://i.imgur.com/ygwl4.png - harddrive space
[15:23] <WHAT_UP> FrozenMind: agh. lame
[15:23] <schnuffle> intore_: if pastebinit is not installed: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:24] <FrozenMind> what_up: haha, sorry :)
[15:24] <intore_> schnuffle: after restarting it runs
[15:24] <intore_> i tried many times
[15:24] <WHAT_UP> FrozenMind: i ran your command and got "This apt has screwdriver powers. Have you unhinged today?"
[15:24] <schnuffle> intore_: you mean you have an internet connection
[15:24] <intore_> i'll connect with him, i'll come back
[15:24] <intore_> yes
[15:24] <schnuffle> okay
[15:24] <schnuffle> fine
[15:25] <intore_> but i've others things to ask you
[15:25] <intore_> i'll come back
[15:25] <U_Crazy> what is pastebinit
[15:25] <FrozenMind> what_up: epic :D now, get a screwdriver... and open up your case
[15:26] <schnuffle> !paste | U_Crazy
[15:26] <spartan2276> L3top, nope that did not work
[15:26] <meadhikari> hello, how to change volume with keyboard in "nvlc" please help
[15:28] <Kaizen> where do i go to report bugs
[15:28] <LjL> !bugs | Kaizen
[15:29] <intore_> could you explain me a thing. now am using internet but in the /etc/network/interfaces, eth1 interfaces is not listed. how is possible it runs?
[15:30] <schnuffle> intore_:  /etc/network/interfaces is for manual configuration, network-manager has its own configuration
[15:30] <debsan> intore_, do you use Network Manager ?
[15:31] <L3top> spartan2276: what didn't work? The command? Unmuting?
[15:31] <intore_> now yes but i'll want use only manual configuration and configure some wireless connection
[15:32] <spartan2276> L3top, unmuting
[15:32] <spartan2276> L3top, everything was unmuted already
[15:32] <L3top> Now that it is unmuted, there is likely a volume meter?
[15:32] <spartan2276> right I put that up to 100%
[15:32] <intore_> i've seen this http://nixcraft.com/ubuntu-debian/13278-etc-network-interfaces-wireless-wifi-example.html and is fine
[15:32] <L3top> reboot and check again.
[15:33] <L3top> Just to be sure
[15:33] <spartan2276> k
[15:33] <intore_> but it doesn't run
[15:33] <whitekidney> can anyone explain how this makes sense? http://i.imgur.com/ygwl4.png - harddrive space
[15:33] <sw> intore_: '$ sudo gedit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf', change managed=true and then configure /etc/network/interfaces
[15:33] <L3top> What do you not understand whitekidney? The space evaluation of the items in various folders?
[15:33] <sw> intore_: that's if you want to disable Network Manager and use the traditional method of /etc/network/interfaces
[15:34] <sw> intore_: if you're having issues with your configuration, can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces?
[15:34] <whitekidney> L3top: I don't have 170gb of crap on the disk, only like 100GB.
[15:34] <whitekidney> I don't know why it says 170gb used
[15:35] <L3top> whitekidney: df -h in terminal
[15:35] <whitekidney> Hold on, currently overwriting free space
[15:36] <jarray52> lspci -vvv shows VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M Series] for the graphics card. AMD Catalyst installs but doesn't recognize the graphics card. Any suggestions?
[15:36] <Joe_KD2AKU> Just got a W520, what is the best way to install Ubuntu-11.10 with LUKS Full disk encryption? Alt or Desktop?
[15:36] <intore_> ok, thanks but i've a complication. the main problem is i want to login using ldap account and i've problem with gdm so i want to use a simple console to login and then startx.
[15:37] <L3top> jarray52 apt-cache policy fglrx | grep Installed
[15:37] <whitekidney> L3top: /dev/sda1             206G  159G   47G  78% /media/Storage250
[15:38] <Andy80> anyone know why, even if my iPod Shuffle contains many song and even Nautilus can see the files, if I access it with Rhythmbox it detect 0 songs?
[15:38] <whitekidney> L3top: Nevermind, Windows is derpy and decided to use my storage disk as a trashcan.
[15:38] <jarray52> L3top: Installed: 2:8.723.1-0ubuntu6
[15:38] <ubuntu-studio> Hi everybody, i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04b studio, on a already partitioned hd, i would like to install it where the older versions were before, without formating the whole hd because i have still data storage in some partitions. i get the message "no root file system is defined" can anybody help me?
[15:38] <whitekidney> /dev/sda1             206G   90G  116G  44% /media/Storage250 - Much better :) Thanks
[15:39] <L3top> np
[15:39] <ggherdov> hi all. what is the metapackage for all development things? smthg like devtools... I mean C++ compiler, profiler, debugger, everything.
[15:39] <beandog> I don't think there is one
[15:39] <Head> Hi all
[15:40] <Head> Can someone explain to me what unity --reset actually does?
[15:40] <L3top> jarray52 lspci | grep VGA | grep -E '((9|X|ES)(1|2?)([0-9])(5|0)0|Xpress)'
[15:40] <beandog> ggherdov: here's the base ones I install: http://paste.pocoo.org/raw/578512/
[15:40] <diamonds> hi http://screencast.com/t/kBDCFyunapbX
[15:40] <diamonds> having some trouble with the minimal installer
[15:40] <bean> ggherdov: build-essential
[15:40] <diamonds> but I'm not getting the "select software" screen
[15:40] <L3top> If that returns a result, then you cannot use the fglrx driver.
[15:40] <ubuntu-studio> can anyone help me with this:  i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04b studio, on a already partitioned hd, i would like to install it where the older versions were before, without formating the whole hd because i have still data storage in some partitions. i get the message "no root file system is defined" can you help me?
[15:41] <L3top> If it does not, then we will have to figure out what is going on
[15:41]  * L3top is very bad about using enter as punctuation. I have got to work on that in this chan.
[15:41] <beandog> bean: ooh, nice
[15:41] <jaime> Hey
[15:42] <jaime> I need help
[15:42] <jarray52> L3top: I cut and paste your command line. It returned nothing. lspci | grep VGA returns the following.
[15:42] <jaime> I finally got the Studio beta set up, but the wireless isn't scanning for networks. I can't connect through wireless
[15:43] <jarray52> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[15:43] <jarray52> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M Series]
[15:43] <ubuntu-studio> hi jaime!
[15:43] <Pici> ubuntu-studio, jaime: 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+1
[15:43] <L3top> yeah... then you should be good for fglrx. type aticonfig
[15:43] <jaime> Hello xD
[15:43] <L3top> ok
[15:43] <diamonds> here is my system debug log: http://www.hastebin.com/raw/tucededojo
[15:43] <diamonds> O
[15:43] <ubuntu-studio> can you help me with my studio 12.04b installation?
[15:43] <ubuntu-studio> i am lost with these partition...
[15:43] <Pici> ubuntu-studio, jaime: 12.04 support is in #ubuntu+1, not #ubuntu
[15:43] <L3top> You have one of those dual gpu things. It is likely trying to utilize the wrong hw.
[15:43] <diamonds> I'm having the "select and install software" step fails on installer issue
[15:43] <jaime> I had a problem with the partitions too
[15:44] <ubuntu-studio> i get the message no root system defined
[15:44] <jarray52> L3top: What does that mean?
[15:44] <diamonds> I also have the partman and hardware-summary, if those are useful
[15:44] <L3top> baby... brb
[15:44] <diamonds> It's frustrating that it doesn't give any debug output in the installer itself
[15:44] <jaime> Just make sure you have a partition to install to, swap space, and since there's no setting yet to set up a BIOS partition in installation, install without it. Then go back to live CD and reinstall to repair and it'll work fine
[15:45] <LoRez> what's the InRelease file for and why is it not available on archive.ubuntu.com for precise?
[15:45] <jaime> Just have a third partition that CAN be set up for BIOS and the repair will set it up for you
[15:45] <jaime> That's what happened with me
[15:45] <jarray52> L3top: I presume you mean that the system doesn't know which graphics card to use. I'm not sure how to proceed. Any suggestions?
[15:45] <xangua> LoRez: #ubuntu+1 por pangolin
[15:45] <xangua> for*
[15:46] <diamonds> does the minimal install also require 15gb?
[15:46] <jaime> Can anyone help me with the wireless problem I'm having?
[15:46] <jarray52> L3top: I'll try disabling one graphics card in the BIOS.
[15:47] <tigers> Is there a tool to show which file is in which cluster of a file system?
[15:48] <Pici> jaime: With 12.04?
[15:48] <jaime> Yes
[15:49] <Pici> jaime: then you need to ask in the #ubuntu+1 channel, that is the only place where 12.04 is supported at this time.
[15:49] <jaime> Thank you, I didn't see your post before
[15:50] <linux-ninja> is anyone of you running ubuntu in a box with magny cours?
[15:51] <schnuffle> tigers: filefrag -v <file>
[15:51] <martian> linux-ninja: what is magny cours?
[15:52] <tigers> schnuffle, i'll try that, thankz
[15:52] <compdoc> magny cours is a cpu
[15:52] <linux-ninja> CPU
[15:52] <rockets> Is there a way to apt-get install all *security updates* only
[15:53] <martian> compdoc linux-ninja: oh, you hardware people :)
[15:53] <compdoc> :)
[15:53] <linux-ninja> ;-)
[15:53] <sacarlson> is there any working nautilus-pastebin ppa version for ubuntu 11.10 ?  my google search has found none,  so no pastebinit from nautilus
[15:53] <sacarlson> I think I will have to move back to ubuntu 10.04
[15:54] <compdoc> bad idea
[15:54] <martian> Is there a way to 'spy' on an SSH session (a tunnel)? It's my own user; I just want to see if my android is actually tunneling all traffic :)
[15:55] <tigers> schnuffle, Filefrag works on files... i specifically want to see which files are at the end of me filesystem...
[15:55] <whitekidney> martian: no.. it's ssh :P
[15:56] <schnuffle> tigers: but if gives you the block from which should be able to find the location
[15:56] <sacarlson> martian: you can watch packet move but they will be encrypted so ??  you can monitor trafic with wireshark
[15:56] <tigers> What if i have a few thousand files?
[15:57] <martian> sacarlson: yeah, I was just hoping that there was a way to like, hook the post-decrypted activity via the ssh daemon or something. I suppose packet count is good enough though
[15:57] <schnuffle> tigers: i see so you  want:  list files written in a certain area of hdd?
[15:58] <tigers> schnuffle, precisely.
[15:58] <netbus> i run ubuntu in a virtual machine.  how do i ensure i am running it most efficiently?  how do i speed up my ubuntu?
[15:59] <sacarlson> martian: you can login on another ssh and see the files deposited from your android ssh sesion,  I'm not sure what kind of data it is so???
[16:00] <martian> sacarlson: wifi tethering with my rooted phone; I'm attempting to tunnel all traffic between my phone and my ubuntu server, to prevent verizon from sniffing activity to look for foreign user agents. I'm basically using the server as a proxy :)
[16:01] <asd2012> Recently i have purchased BSNL EVDO Card (Internet Data Card) and tried to install in my newly installed Ubuntu 11.04 OS but failed. can anybody help me out?
[16:01] <jarray52> L3top: There is no way to disable one graphics card in the BIOS. Do you know how I deal with this dual graphics thingy?
[16:01] <asd2012> pls
[16:02] <Pricey> asd2012: What did you try. What did/didn't work?
[16:02] <Pl3nar1us> Is there an irc channel that talks about rooting a smartphone?
[16:02] <Pricey> Pl3nar1us: What smartphone?
[16:02] <haylo> netbus, the best way to speed up ubuntu is to do a netinstal with it and then just add a lightweight window manager like TWM or OB, xorg , and alsa for sound.
[16:02] <asd2012> i am unable to open internet in Ubuntu 11.04
[16:02] <asd2012> !!!
[16:02] <Pl3nar1us> pricey: Droid x
[16:02] <jarray52> Pl3narlus: Do you work at Newscorp?
[16:03] <thillERboy> asd2012: don't know about EVDO card, 3G BSNL works if you enable mobile broadband under wireless connections
[16:03] <asd2012> i have Internet Data card (BSNL EVDO Card) with me but unable to open
[16:03] <asd2012> internet
[16:03] <satyanash> BSNL data card is a USB dongle for internet through EVDO wireless...
[16:03] <Pl3nar1us> jarray52: Newscorp?
[16:03] <haylo> netbus, people act like the size of the operating system doesnt matter- but they are just mistaken netbus
[16:03] <asd2012> yes
[16:04] <asd2012> but i am unable to open internet now in Ubuntu 11.04
[16:04] <satyanash> asd2012, I got that.
[16:04] <netbus> haylo: i agree.  thanks for the suggestions.  ill looking into a "netinstall"
[16:04] <Pl3nar1us> No, I don't.
[16:04] <Pricey> Pl3nar1us: try #android-root
[16:04] <jarray52> Pl3nar1us: Sorry... bad joke... they've been implicated in lots of phone hacking.
[16:04] <bouma> i just realised that usb transfers only half show under iotop
[16:04] <L3top> no I don't jarray52. It is looking more and more like something I am going to have to start dealing with though. Becomming more common. I will see what I can dig up after I finish debugging this thing I am working on.
[16:04] <bouma> from a hdd to a usb
[16:05] <tigers> asd2012, if its a usb dongle,try installin usb-modeswitch
[16:05] <bouma> it seems to show the read but not the write
[16:05] <Joe_KD2AKU> Can the desktop version install LUKS full disk encryption?
[16:05] <Pl3nar1us> jarray52: Ah.
[16:05] <asd2012> i have tried but failed
[16:06] <asd2012> yes it is a usb dongle
[16:06] <sacarlson> Joe_KD2AKU: I think you will need to install with the alternate ubuntu iso to support LUKS at all
[16:06] <satyanash> asd2012, you could try this, It might work.. http://www.techzim.co.zw/2011/06/how-to-ubuntu-and-mobile-broadband/
[16:06] <itgeo> hello guys, i installed iRedMail as mailserver on my server, everything is working, except that i cant send and receive mail to and from people who are outside of my domaine. For exemple if i send an email with my gmail account to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i dont receive this email
[16:06] <sacarlson> Joe_KD2AKU: or I should say to boot from a LUKS partition
[16:06] <jarray52> L3top: Any suggestions on what should I Google?
[16:06] <tigers> Does it go on after you plug it in?
[16:07] <diamonds> my disk may have just been too small
[16:07] <diamonds> I made a 12gb virtual disk; I thought that would be enough for minimal
[16:07] <Joe_KD2AKU> sacarlson: Ya, work requirement is full disk encryption so both / and swap need to be in LUKS
[16:07] <diamonds> anyway I'm trying again with a larger disk
[16:07] <asd2012> no i am stuck
[16:08] <satyanash> tigers, most have a software..that automatically runs when you plug it in.
[16:08] <JCMav> Guys there was this kernel update like on friday. My ubuntu on my laptop is running sluggishly since then, how to fix?
[16:08] <asd2012> ok wait a minute i have an another problem !
[16:08] <FrozenMind> Pl3narlus: I personally go to XDA Developers for Rooting/Customizations
[16:08] <sacarlson> Joe_KD2AKU: there are totorials on full encryption I think you will find they us the alternate boot disk
[16:08] <tigers> Soooo,is there really no way for me to visualize clusters of a filesystem?
[16:09] <asd2012> i forgot the Password of "su" in Ubuntu 11.04 now how can i recover this
[16:09] <tigers> satyanash, most of that software is windows and mac only
[16:09] <asd2012> when i open the gnome-terminal in Ubuntu 11.04 i type su
[16:09] <satyanash> tigers, I know.
[16:09] <asd2012> but forgot the password of "su"
[16:09] <Joe_KD2AKU> sacarlson: Yes, thank you, I've done it before, but in the past with Alt, was wondering if the GUI installer would do it, I like easy ;-)
[16:10] <asd2012> now what can i do
[16:10] <asd2012> can anybody help me out
[16:10] <asd2012> pls
[16:10] <JCMav> sudo su?
[16:10] <asd2012> :-(
[16:10] <satyanash> tigers, wvdial might _just_ work.
[16:10] <asd2012> "su"
[16:10] <burner> asd2012: there is no su password... use sudo :P
[16:10] <haylo> netbus, ethernet cable will work fine but for wireless on a system you use yourself i would reccomend installing wicd for wireless fi you need it
[16:10] <tigers> As long as it goes on, and he has usb-modeswitch installed and it doesnt work. Then the problem is something else
[16:10] <itgeo> asd2012: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword :)
[16:10] <haylo> system you makes yourself* sorry netbus
[16:10] <sacarlson> Joe_KD2AKU: never know things change no reason they couldn't support luks at some point if not already
[16:11] <tigers> satyanash, i'll look into it, thanks.
[16:11] <diamonds> where can I find information on the "software" listed to install on OS install?
[16:11] <umerahmad> can anyone tell me how to run autodesk 3Ds max through wine in ubuntu 11.10
[16:11] <diamonds> sorry, afk http://screencast.com/t/QOAbVx7hQrH
[16:11] <diamonds> like "basic ubuntu server" not sure what this refers to
[16:11] <asd2012> is there any easy way (Graphical way)
[16:11] <tigers> Ahh, that was for a different problem,not mine
[16:11] <JCMav> guys, guys, still the kernel update on friday or so, which was the kernel before? I want to use the older one again I uninstalled maybe.... without having to reinstall.
[16:11] <asd2012> pls
[16:12] <asd2012> :-(
[16:12] <JCMav> asd2012: use sudo su
[16:12] <Troller> :-(
[16:12] <asd2012> but when i type "su"
[16:12] <asd2012> the the system ask me for password
[16:12] <JCMav> su never works for me.
[16:12] <JCMav> do sudo su.
[16:12] <umerahmad> can anyone tell me how to run autodesk 3Ds max through wine in ubuntu 11.10
[16:12] <asd2012> the i am unable to locate
[16:13] <haylo> ok you can use any kernel you guys. a server is a linux, unix machine that is set up to take people users in from web- it has only to do with permissions of flders and wether your router allows outside access
[16:13] <satyanash> asd2012, do sudo su and out your own password.
[16:13] <satyanash> asd2012, put*
[16:13] <asd2012> is "sudo" and "su" are SAME ???
[16:13] <diamonds> can anyone tell me why the "some steps failed to complete: select and install software" step on install doesn't give any information on *what package* caused the failure?
[16:13] <asd2012> is it?
[16:13] <haylo> su get root sudo gets temporary root
[16:13] <diamonds> one is left to removing packages oneXone and trying again
[16:13] <Kaizen> anyone bored want to help test this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/977313
[16:13] <haylo> sudo is like "false root"
[16:14] <asd2012> if "su" is root then how to get the password of "su" after forgotten it??
[16:14] <Pici> !root | asd2012
[16:14] <FrozenMind> sudo -s will get you into "root" to allow you to constantly work as root with no password time out asd2012
[16:14] <rebe> why my terminal uses "/media/sda5/" in path to other partitions, instead of drive letters ?
[16:14] <Pricey> asd2012: su stands for 'switch user'. It lets you switch (normally to root)
[16:14] <haylo> ok well dont forget that passwor dnot ever to get you need advanced security skills
[16:14] <haylo> root* passwd
[16:15] <Pricey> asd2012: sudo gives your user "root" permissions... i.e. pretty much anything. Though that is configurable.
[16:15] <Pricey> asd2012: check the link above.
[16:16] <Kaizen> Oops, it's public now https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/977313
[16:16] <asd2012> so that is the reason
[16:16] <irenicus09> learningc:
[16:16] <asd2012> By default, the Root account password is locked in Ubuntu
[16:17] <irenicus09> oops wrong window :|
[16:17] <asd2012> so i can never know the password of "su"???
[16:17] <asd2012> it will be locked forever?
[16:17] <bekks> There is no root password.
[16:17] <haylo> well acrually the root password is just not set. do sudo su and then passwd to set it
[16:17] <hAcKtHewAy> hi
[16:17] <bekks> It isnt locked.
[16:17] <bekks> Just use sudo instead of su
[16:17] <haylo> just use sudo
[16:17] <asd2012> but "sudo" and "su" are different
[16:18] <haylo> root is too easy to move wrong foder and lose it
[16:18] <sontek_> I'm on the Ubuntu LiveCD and it detected that I needed a different wireless driver, and activated it, but the wireless wont activate
[16:18] <Alanjones> hi all
[16:18] <sontek_> iwconfig shows it
[16:18] <bekks> asd2012: Both give you a root account if necessary.
[16:18] <sontek_> but iwlist scanning says wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[16:18] <Head> is there a quick code to disable quick launcher altogether ??
[16:18] <bekks> You dont have to have password set on the root account, and the root account isnt locked.
[16:18] <danielkoprowski> I don't know...
[16:19] <danielkoprowski> I'm still fairly new to linux.
[16:19] <haylo> Head, a lighter window manager wil probably not activate your unnecessary programs
[16:19] <Alanjones> how do i stinall handbrake on 11.10?
[16:20] <stianhj> What version of GLX does Ubuntu 11.10 have? does anyone know?
[16:20] <asd2012> then if anybody wants to write su in terminal and the system ask for password then we simply have to neglect it
[16:20] <hAcKtHewAy> disconnect
[16:20] <Head> @haylo how do you mean?
[16:20] <bekks> asd2012: You dont need su. You should use sudo.
[16:20] <hAcKtHewAy> how to disconnect frm the IRC chat
[16:20] <asd2012> ya of course i will use sudo
[16:21] <asd2012> but if anybody wants to open "su" then he simply cant
[16:21] <asd2012> open it
[16:21] <asd2012> because
[16:21] <umerahmad> hey guys can anyone tell me how to run 3ds max in linux....
[16:21] <ssta> not directly usually
[16:21] <asd2012> no body wants "su"
[16:21] <JCMav> asd2012: if you want to open it, do "sudo su"
[16:21] <bekks> asd2012: You dont use su on Ubuntu. Period.
[16:21] <burner> werd
[16:21] <burner> !sudo
[16:21] <ssta> bekks: umm, not true...
[16:22] <haylo> Head most programs are started up with a graphical display. if you log in text and then into a window manager enviornment you choose- you will have less startup programs
[16:22] <bekks> sudo su is ... useless use of su :) sudo -i does the same.
[16:22] <haylo> sudo su gets you root that is ridiculous to say it is useless
[16:22] <bekks> haylo: Then read what sudo -i
[16:22] <ssta> bekks: that's true. but a LOT different from "never use su in ubuntu"
[16:22] <haylo> ok i will sorry bekks
[16:23] <wbullock> Enter text here...
[16:23] <bekks> BEfore accusing people of being ridiculous.
[16:23] <asd2012> ok
[16:23] <bekks> ssta: Ack.
[16:23] <ssta> bekks: and two commands that do the same thing are interchangeable
[16:23] <haylo> um well it is actually and we both know it
[16:23] <haylo> il just leave
[16:23] <wbullock> I have an ubuntu machine which will not connect to the repositories for software updates
[16:23] <Kaizen> Stop the religious war please, if people want to login as root with no password it's up to them :)
[16:23] <asd2012> so as we dont need "su" so we dont have the right to know the password of "su"???
[16:23] <Resistance> haylo:  bekks:  you two should stop arguing.  using 'su' in ubuntu is not advised, for decent reasons.
[16:24] <bekks> Resistance: I already quit argueing.
[16:24] <wbullock> I recently changed the IP address and now it refuses to pull in updates
[16:24] <wbullock> I'm able to ping everything on the internet just fine
[16:24] <asd2012> but why nobody is interested to know the password of "su"
[16:24] <asd2012> ???
[16:25] <ssta> Resistance: umm, *please* clarify that to "using su to gain root".  To say otherwise is misinformation!
[16:25] <L3top> jarray52: google blacklist video card ubuntu, and try and blacklist the intel side
[16:25] <L3top> That would be my first line of attack
[16:25] <asd2012> pls tell me
[16:25] <asd2012> why nobody is interested to know the password of "su"
[16:25] <bekks> asd2012: Because there is no password set.
[16:26] <bekks> And everybody uses sudo.
[16:26] <haylo> Resistance, didnt say that ssta . lets just stop the root discussion it is silly
[16:26] <asd2012> did ever anybody have tried to open the famous "su" in Ubuntu 11.04
[16:27] <asd2012> ???
[16:27] <bekks> asd2012: root has no password, so thath will fail.
[16:27] <Resistance> !root
[16:27] <Resistance> !su
[16:27] <ssta> haylo: he was loose and fuzzy.  Commands like su aren't a good place for being loose and fuzzy.  "su" is a perfectly good and useful command.  IN fact, there are LOTS of uses of it in every ubuntu system by default (grep for su in /etc sometime)
[16:27] <Artemis3> by default you can't use su, if you need a root session you use sudo -i or assign a password to the root account, but its not needed if you use sudo
[16:27] <asd2012> so i can confirm that no body has ever been able to open the "su" :-)
[16:28] <bekks> asd2012: Not by default.
[16:28] <asd2012> and also nobody is interested in it
[16:28] <asd2012> isn't it?
[16:28] <Artemis3> the point is not having people remember 2 passwords, and instead consider their first account their "admin" account (able to sudo).
[16:28] <Libertad> can somebody call me if you can change the menu set-up, like to make it transparent or anything else
[16:29] <asd2012> but u know what
[16:29] <haylo> ssta if you are telling    me   how to use grep and su  , you are really wasting you time. i could wget your whole life and then sed and grep it into my own
[16:29] <haylo> you are just troll
[16:29] <haylo> in my opinion
[16:29] <Pici> Can we get back on-topic folks?
[16:30] <asd2012> i was trying to open "su" by guessing the password of it for the last 30 minutes !!!
[16:30] <asd2012> and FAILED
[16:30] <ssta> asd2012: by default there's no valid root password
[16:30] <intore_> here i am
[16:30] <Artemis3> su will not work by default
[16:30] <Resistance> !root | asd2012
[16:30] <asd2012> so that's why i was unable to open it
[16:31] <asd2012> ok
[16:31] <Artemis3> use sudo -i to achieve the same
[16:31] <asd2012> now i have realised it
[16:31] <beandog> sudo su - -c passwd
[16:31] <asd2012> from now i will use sudo
[16:31] <Artemis3> or define a root password as beandog said
[16:32] <dubios> why so many bugs in 12.04?
[16:32] <ssta> there aren't many use cases where defining a root password is a good thing...avoid it generally
[16:32] <Artemis3> but sudo will avoid you from having 2 passwords
[16:32] <Pici> dubios : Precise/12.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[16:32] <asd2012> will it be beneficial
[16:32] <Pici> beandog: please do not suggest enabling a root password without adequate warning.
[16:32] <beandog> Pici: meh
[16:33] <beandog> root is not to be feared
[16:33] <asd2012> if i define a password for root then will it be beneficial ???
[16:33] <ssta> asd2012: no
[16:33] <bekks> asd2012: no
[16:33] <asd2012> so i must use sudo
[16:33] <asd2012> for all my works
[16:33] <danger89> Why is bookmark in de HUD under Firefox not at the top of the list?
[16:33] <Pici> asd2012: I think we've been over this a number of times already.  Please stop asking.
[16:33] <asd2012> ok
[16:34] <Artemis3> the warnning is, don't use root priviledges unless you really really need it, don't go around starting browsers or irc clients or such, just stick to administrative tasks only such as installing/removing packages or reconfigure system wide settings etc.
[16:34] <intore_> i disabled NetworkManager, i configured /etc/network/interfaces and wpa_supplicant.conf, i restart using console but it doesn't keep ip address. in /var/log/syslog there is a message: can't find host ntp.ubuntu.com. could you help me please?
[16:34] <haylo> defining a root passwd is not neccessary ubuntu is not hiding anything from you guys- they just ant fix everyones mistakes
[16:34] <Kaizen> how can i find out which ubuntu package this error message relates to? pam_limits(sshd:session)
[16:34] <asd2012> but now i am stuck will my previous problem (A BIG PROBLEM)
[16:34] <Libertad> what's the best lightweight browser that support flash player?
[16:34] <Artemis3> asd2012, you can just use sudo -i once
[16:34] <haylo> yes exactly dont start browsers in root and def no irc
[16:34] <asd2012> which i am facing for the last 6 MONTHS
[16:34] <Artemis3> asd2012, do your administratives tasks then exit
[16:34] <ssta> unless you're an expert, in which case you know the risks already and can ignore warnings (but experts aren't Ubuntu's target demographic really)
[16:35] <asd2012> ok
[16:35] <asd2012> but what about my previous problem
[16:35] <asd2012> ???
[16:35] <asd2012> i am facing it for the last 6 months
[16:35] <asd2012> can i share my problem pls ???
[16:35] <L3top> You would have to define the problem asd2012. You have just been going on and on about su.
[16:36] <bekks> ! ask | asd2012
[16:36] <luis_> buenas
[16:36] <asd2012> so my problem goes like this
[16:36] <L3top> One line.
[16:37] <Artemis3> !es luis_
[16:37] <asd2012> One day
[16:37] <Artemis3> !es
[16:37] <wbullock8> can anyone help me with an issue I'm having regarding and IP Address change and using apt-get update
[16:37] <L3top> ohffs
[16:37] <asd2012> i purchased
[16:37] <asd2012> wait pls
[16:37]  * bindi figures asd2012 is a troll
[16:37] <asd2012> everybody wait pls
[16:37] <asd2012> my problem goes like this
[16:37] <asd2012> one day i purchased
[16:37] <asd2012> a BSNL EVDO Card
[16:37] <asd2012> then i
[16:37] <bekks> asd2012: one line please. Dont use enter as a punctuation sign.
[16:37] <asd2012> purchased a
[16:38] <asd2012> laptop
[16:38] <FloodBot1> asd2012: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:38] <wbullock8> I changed the IP address on my server and now apt-get update won't connnect, the moment I change it back to the old IP everything works fine... any help would be greatly appreciated
[16:38] <asd2012> ok
[16:38] <asd2012> i will say in one line
[16:38] <asd2012> but pls pls wait for me
[16:39] <luis_> 1es
[16:39] <luis_> !es
[16:39] <asd2012> yes
[16:39] <asd2012> now i want to say it
[16:39] <asd2012> one day i purchased a Samsung Laptop then i purchased a BSNL EVDO Card (Internet Data Card) and tried to install in my newly installed Ubuntu 11.04 OS but failed. can anybody help me out?
[16:39] <Artemis3> asd2012, before purchase, always research linux support for hardware, many devices work but many don't, you might have help searching "ubuntu and model/brand"
[16:39] <asd2012> pls
[16:40] <asd2012> now i have 3 things
[16:40] <wbullock8> does anyone know why apt-get won't connect after just changing the IP address of the server?
[16:40] <bekks> wbullock8: Is it a home based server?
[16:40] <asd2012> 1 Samsung Laptop 2) Ubuntu 11.04 3) BSNL EVDO Card (Internet Data Card)
[16:40] <FrozenMind> asd2012: just speak your mind with the question.... then you will not need to keep asking for people to wait as well as pls over and over again... just ask the question(s) in an orderly fashion, we will get to you if we know the answer to your questions
[16:40] <asd2012> and all in vain
[16:41] <wbullock8> no it's setup at work
[16:41] <wbullock8> I'm running ubuntu server 11.10 on it
[16:41] <AllanLinux> hi all =)
[16:41] <bekks> wbullock8: a physical one or a virtual machine?
[16:41] <compdoc> AllanLinux? Are you the guy they named Linux after?
[16:41] <wbullock8> physical
[16:42] <asd2012> :-( :-(  :-)
[16:42] <intore_> i disabled NetworkManager, i configured /etc/network/interfaces and wpa_supplicant.conf, i restart using console but it doesn't keep ip address. in /var/log/syslog there is a message: can't find host ntp.ubuntu.com. could you help me please?
[16:42] <kaspir> could somebody please help me with using my tv as a monitor for my laptop, the tv is not detecting any input, and the laptop detects the tv as "unknown"
[16:42] <Artemis3> asd2012, this guy seems to have your device: http://www.care4tech.com/care4internet/browser/how-to-connect-mobile-internet-in-ubuntu-11-04-operating-system/1079/
[16:42] <asd2012> i am not happy for the last 6 months (really)
[16:42] <jarray52> Anyone know which kernel module is used by the: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller?
[16:42] <wbullock8> all i did was edit the interfaces file and change the IP address and now apt-get update fails to connect every time
[16:42] <bekks> wbullock8: So to which IP did you change the IP of the server? To a valid IP from the network the server is in?
[16:43] <Artemis3> asd2012, http://www.care4tech.com/ubuntu-2/connecting-step-bsnl%E2%80%99s-evdo-in-ubuntu-11-04/1260/
[16:43] <wbullock8> yes I went from .45 to a .26
[16:43] <wbullock8> on a 10.x.x.x network
[16:43] <AllanLinux> exact ;)
[16:43] <bekks> wbullock8: And that IP isnt blocked in the firewall, etc?
[16:43] <monkeymatings> I have a toshiba satellite a505d s6968 running ubuntu 11.10 and the wifi isnt working. the wifi shows up but pages dont load and things dont download
[16:44] <asd2012> its not so easy friend i have tried this
[16:44] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: Can you set a resolution for the tv and apply?
[16:44] <Artemis3> asd2012, in short it seems network manager works with it just fine.
[16:44] <umerahmad> can i run autodesk 3ds max in ubuntu?
[16:44] <wbullock8> no as a matter of fact everybody can see the server just fine and I can also initiate connections out... but for some reason apt-get wont work
[16:44] <bekks> umerahmad: No. It is a Windows Application.
[16:44] <genii-around> !appdb | umerahmad
[16:44] <wbullock8> if i change the IP back to what it was everything works fine
[16:45] <GirlyGirl> umerahmad: Virtualbox could help too
[16:45] <ssta> wbullock8: do you have an apt-proxy set or something maybe?
[16:45] <GirlyGirl> !virtualbox | umerahmad
[16:45] <bluefrog> wbullock8, if memory serves, apt-get is caching some info. everything should be  ok after a reboot (don't how to "clean" apt's cache)
[16:45] <monkeymatings> im also a noob to ubuntu
[16:45] <umerahmad> yes i know about wine and virtual box
[16:45] <wbullock8> no I didn't setup apt-proxy
[16:45] <intore_> i disabled NetworkManager, i configured /etc/network/interfaces and wpa_supplicant.conf, i restart using console but it doesn't keep ip address. in /var/log/syslog there is a message: can't find host ntp.ubuntu.com. could you help me please?
[16:45] <AllanLinux> I need help. Need to migrate a mailbox that is in the ubuntu thunderbird thunderbird for the trash-windows, does anyone know how to do this?
[16:45] <umerahmad> thats what i want to know if i can run it through wine
[16:45] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: I can but it doesn't effect anything. I read somewhere that my video card could not be sending out a signal, is there a way to change that?
[16:46] <wbullock8> I did a reboot and I also tried apt-get clean
[16:46] <DivideByZero> test
[16:46] <genii-around> umerahmad: Thats why I pointed you at the database of apps which run under wine. Check to see about Max there
[16:46] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: Normally if the refresh rate and resolution are valid an image should form
[16:46] <bluefrog> wbullock8, so what is the error message of apt-get?
[16:46] <wbullock8> hold on I'll run the command and paste the result
[16:47] <bluefrog> not here
[16:47] <umerahmad> i have been asking this question in the #winehq but no one is answering there | <genii-around>
[16:47] <monkeymatings> can anyone help me?
[16:47] <bluefrog> wbullock8, strace apt-get update might be even better
[16:47] <wbullock8> 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)] [Connecting to securit ...
[16:47] <wbullock8> just sits there on that status and eventually times out
[16:47] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: in past experience it has. But not with this tv and on a different install of ubuntu. But same laptop
[16:48] <AllanLinux> Does anyone know help me?
[16:48] <monkeymatings> im also using wubi
[16:48] <bluefrog> wbullock8, what the route in place right now? netstat -rn
[16:48] <ssta> wbullock8: paste the contents of /etc/apt/apt.conf  ?
[16:48] <Artemis3> umerahmad, i would say the reason is, you need to check their appdb page to know if something works or not with wine.
[16:48] <bluefrog> wbullock8, then same when you revert back the IP
[16:48] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: Does the tv work on another OS like windows or OS X?
[16:49] <wbullock8> no when I revert back IP it works fine
 thanks
[16:49] <kaspir> Idk i only have ubuntu
[16:49] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: idk i only have ubuntu
[16:49] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: Is your graphic card an Intel one by any chance?
[16:49] <asd2012> no no the problem is not solved :-(
[16:50] <intore_> no ideas?
[16:50] <wbullock8> ssta: I don't have that file but rather a directory for configuration
[16:50] <asd2012> i am stuck for the last 6 months
[16:50] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: I think so. How do I check?
[16:50] <monkeymatings> how long does it usually take for someone to answer?
[16:50] <ssta> wbullock8: hmm, okay.  can you ping us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[16:50] <asd2012> can anybody help this helpless fellow
[16:50] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: in terminal lspci
[16:50] <asd2012> one day i purchased a Samsung Laptop then i purchased a BSNL EVDO Card (Internet Data Card) and tried to install in my newly installed Ubuntu 11.04 OS but failed. can anybody help me out?
[16:51] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: yep
[16:51] <wbullock8> when I ping us.archive.ubuntu.com I get: 64 bytes from cursa.canonical.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_req=1 ttl=50 time=108 ms
[16:51] <L3top> asd2012: Your attitude makes me not care to help you at all. Go try kppp.
[16:51] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: Because on my GMA 950 my Tv detects as unknown and detects only 1024x768 as working res. Used to work in Ubuntu 9.10
[16:52] <asd2012> pls
[16:52] <asd2012> but what is "kppp"?
[16:52] <asd2012> !!!
[16:52] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: ever find a fix?
[16:52] <L3top> GirlyGirl: have you installed libva-driver-i965
[16:52] <L3top> !info kppp
[16:52] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: Are you using hdmi or vga?
[16:53] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: vga to hdmi
[16:53] <GirlyGirl> L3top: Yes
[16:53] <ssta> wbullock8: wget http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/project/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg
[16:53] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: There is a way to manually set it in xorg.conf that works
[16:53] <ssta> (smallest file I could find quickly)
[16:54] <asd2012> ok i am going
[16:54] <asd2012> but one day i will solve my problem
[16:54] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: awesome link me or tell me what to do. Whatever you prefer :D
[16:54] <asd2012> yes i will learn Ubuntu 11.04
[16:54] <wbullock8> Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80...
[16:54] <asd2012> then i will solve my problem
[16:54] <asd2012> and i will come to this place
[16:55] <bluefrog> wbullock8, strace apt-get update
[16:55] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: That is something that someone else told me ... never tried it myself
[16:55] <asd2012> and solve the needy
[16:55] <GirlyGirl> asd2012: What is the problem?
[16:55] <asd2012> like me :-(
[16:55] <asd2012> one day i purchased a Samsung Laptop then i purchased a BSNL EVDO Card (Internet Data Card) and tried to install in my newly installed Ubuntu 11.04 OS but failed. can anybody help me out?
[16:55] <bluefrog> wbullock8, strace sudo apt-get update
[16:55] <gameid> asd2012: spare your enter key a bit, stop repeating yourself and state any errors you are getting or what exactly the issue is that you are having. I'm sure there will be people willing to help you then.
[16:55] <monkeymatings> can anyone help me please? not rushing dont hate me
[16:55] <L3top> !ask | monkeymatings
[16:55] <asd2012> i have wrote my problem
[16:55] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: bittersweet lol
[16:56] <wbullock8> I got a connection refulsed on the wget command I tried to run earlier
[16:56] <asd2012> i have wrote my problem
[16:56] <asd2012> which is above
[16:56] <wbullock8> running strace command now
[16:56] <L3top> don't encourage him GirlyGirl. he is a troll.
[16:56] <GirlyGirl> asd2012: What is the exact manufacturer and model of the card .. bsnl is an isp I believe
[16:56] <asd2012> yes yes
[16:57] <asd2012> BSNL (Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited) EVDO Card (Internet Data Card)
[16:57] <intore_> hi, i disabled NetworkManager, i configured /etc/network/interfaces and wpa_supplicant.conf, i restart using console but it doesn't keep ip address. in /var/log/syslog there is a message: can't find host ntp.ubuntu.com. could you help me please?
[16:57] <mfilipe_> hi! I'm using 12.04-beta2 and I choose the option to crypt my home folder but the installer crypts my swap area! how do I do to uncrypt the swap and crypt my /home?
[16:57] <asd2012> i have it
[16:57] <asd2012> !!!!!
[16:57] <ssta> mfilipe_: #ubuntu+1 for precise
[16:57] <wbullock8> strace command seems to be stuck with this output: 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]) = 109 select(7, [5 6], [], NULL, {0, 500000}
[16:57] <Resistance> asd2012: that's only the card info of the ISP, not the actual make/model of the card.  You may want to check with the ISP for help finding drivers, most dont come with drivers
[16:57] <asd2012> u know my BSNL EVDO Data Card works fine in Windows 7
[16:57] <mfilipe_> ssta, thanks
[16:57] <GirlyGirl> mfilipe_: Fo to #ubuntu+1
[16:57] <monkeymatings> ok. i have a toshiba satellite a505d-s6968 with Ubuntu 11.10 and the wifi isnt loading pages. the signals appear but nothing loads
[16:58] <asd2012> my Bsnl EVDO Data Card works fine in Windows 7
[16:58] <ssta> wbullock8: pastebin the output of "route -n"?
[16:58] <asd2012> but when i open the Ubuntu 11.04 it does not work
[16:58] <asd2012> why this is so???
[16:58] <erratic> where does php5-dev install to
[16:58] <ssta> wbullock8: may as well do /etc/network/interfaces while you're there
[16:58] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: how would i find the refresh rate of my laptop?
[16:58] <sw> intore_: the 'can't find host ntp.ubuntu.com' is just because you didn't have an Internet connection at the time when it tried to connect to sync your time
[16:59] <wbullock8> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[16:59] <wbullock8> <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>      <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    100    0        0 eth0
[16:59] <intore_> so?
[16:59] <ssta> wbullock8: pastebin
[16:59] <GirlyGirl> asd2012: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1637090
[16:59] <sw> erratic: '$ dpkg -L php5-dev'
[16:59] <wbullock8> <IP_ADDRESS>       <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth0
[16:59] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: Refresh rate of the tv not laptop
[16:59] <sw> !pastebin | wbullock8
[16:59] <pentagonpie> Problem when installing anything using apt-get: Errors were encountered while processing:  samba4
[16:59] <erratic> where does php5-dev install to
[17:00] <asd2012> ok i am going
[17:00] <erratic> sw thnkx
[17:00] <Resistance> !repeat | erratic
[17:00] <asd2012> but i will come again
[17:00] <GirlyGirl> asd2012: http://linuxers.org/howto/how-configure-bsnl-evdo-linux
[17:00] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: the laptop's refresh rate is irrelevant?
[17:00] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: Yes
[17:00] <bluefrog> erratic, dpkg -S php5-dev  should tell
[17:00] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: Unless you are changing settings of the laptop flat panel
[17:00] <sw> erratic: I already answered your question
[17:01] <asd2012> ok a very very thanks to all of u
[17:01] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: In ccsm >  composit i changed the refresh rate to that of the tv. still nothign
[17:01] <asd2012> for all of your support
[17:01] <wbullock8> http://paste.ubuntu.com/922090/
[17:01] <asd2012> thanks a lot
[17:01] <asd2012> i am now going
[17:01] <asd2012> good bye to all of you
[17:01] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: ccsm isn't that for compiz??
[17:01] <sw> asd2012: I seen that you asked the same question yesterday. it might be worth posting it on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu to see if any users have your answer there
[17:02] <asd2012> good bye
[17:02] <asd2012> bye bye
[17:02] <asd2012> good night
[17:02] <monkeymatings> i have a toshiba satellite a505d-s6968 with Ubuntu 11.10 and the wifi isnt loading pages. the signals appear but nothing loads
[17:02] <ssta> wbullock8: are you sure that the router is set to allow that IP out?
[17:02] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: I don't have an idea of gnome setting locations but it should be in the control panel or something
[17:02] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: yeah
[17:02] <asd2012> ok now i am quitting
[17:02] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: as I use kde
[17:02] <wbullock8> I'm pretty sure it is
[17:02] <intore_> sw: what can i do?
[17:02] <asd2012> i say good bye to all of u
[17:02] <bastidrazor> asd2012: are you leaving?
[17:03] <ssta> wbullock8: do you have /etc/network/interfaces both the working and non-working version?
[17:03] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: I'm using the unity desktop now, but ccsm still works for a number of things
[17:03] <wbullock8> yes
[17:03] <Kompulsa> Hello.
[17:03] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: Is ccsm used to configure displays??
[17:03] <jeremiah_> how do i check for hdd errors? then how do i fix them?
[17:03] <Kompulsa> Has anyone here used any of the Amazon Kindle devices with Ubuntu? I just need to know if it works with Ubuntu?
[17:03] <wbullock8> the only difference between the two is the IP address instead of .45 (working) I'm using .26 (which isn't working)
[17:03] <Kompulsa> before I buy it
[17:04] <jrib> Kompulsa: works in the sense that it just appears as usb mass storage, yes
[17:04] <L3top> intore_: what I do is drop the whole process into /etc/rc.local before the exit 0, so it starts up and connects every time I logon, and can be run independently from cli if it breaks connection for whatever reason. Some might suggest this is poor form however.
[17:04] <sw> Kompulsa: what do you mean "used with Ubuntu"?
[17:04] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: to an extent. there is a menu item called "displays" used more oftenly i think. but it lacks any customization besides possition and resolution
[17:05] <ssta> wbullock8: all I can think of is that it's your router blocking it.  Sorry
[17:05] <wbullock8> If the router wasn't allowing traffic out then I wouldn't be able to ping anything like google.com right?
[17:05] <ScumbagKanger> can anyone help me with a question regarding internet speed in ubuntu 11.10?
[17:05] <intore_> am blocked. iwlist eth1 scan doesn't run
[17:06] <ssta> wbullock8: not necessarily.  Depends how it's setup.  ICMP is different to TCP.  It might be allowing ICMP out but not TCP
[17:06] <sw> !ask | ScumbagKanger
[17:06] <intore_> please give me help
[17:06] <mcb_> wbullock8: What is your router vendor and model? Some of them you have to configure your DHCP range, and if the IP is not in that range, it will not route. Dont ask me why, but i have come across a couple of those....... have you tried to configure with IP 47? Or something near the one that is working.
[17:06] <whitekidney> mount.ntfs using 105% CPU, is that normal ?
[17:06] <L3top> chances are, intore_ that eth1 is not up.
[17:06] <noobly> Hey, can someone help me.. I am having trouble installing a USB wireless dongle on my 10.04 LTS. I keep getting [modules] Error 2 when I try to make the drivers.
[17:06] <ScumbagKanger> I can only get about 40-50% of my connection speed in ubuntu, when I get 100% in windows
[17:06] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: but that would conclude that it's not my refresh rate thats preventing the display right? So what else could it be
[17:06] <wbullock8> it's a sonicwall
[17:06] <noobly> USB wireless = USB wifi/
[17:07] <GuesT2375> hi
[17:08] <GuesT2375> I've just set up my samba server. I have no printer but windows still sees the shered printer icon
[17:08] <wbullock8> I'll have to take a look at the router... perhaps that is what's happening
[17:08] <intore_> is not possible to insert the lan password interactivly?
[17:08] <GuesT2375> does anybody know how to hide it?
[17:08] <wbullock8> thank you all for the help I really appreciate it
[17:08] <mcb_> wbullock8: I think i had those issueis with a tenda, but i realy cant recall. But you can give it a try. Dost your router comes if a Firewall? You should look if there is anything in there.
[17:08] <compdoc> GuesT2375, you can disable it in smb.conf, I think
[17:08] <ScumbagKanger> Anybody know how I can configure ubuntu 11.10 to allow my internet down speed to be used fully?
[17:09] <GuesT2375> compdoc: i tryed a lot of things but ... nothing
[17:09] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: Not necessary ... how do you know if ccsm is setting refresh rate on the tv and not the notebook display
[17:09] <L3top> It is possible, but you seem to have trouble doing it... so I was suggesting hardcoding it on boot. You have been here several days asking about it. You said it worked swimmingly, and that setting wpa2 was your new task. You seem to have figured out how to do that, but now you want it to be both persistent, and interactive. I am not clear what you really want it to do.
[17:09] <akem> hi, is the Compiz VSync issue fixed in last release?
[17:10] <ScumbagKanger> I'm guessing that's a no?
[17:10] <L3top> what kind of connection is it ScumbagKanger... lan or wifi?
[17:10] <francesco__> msg CM|NeWs|42 xdcc send #21
[17:10] <ScumbagKanger> lan
[17:10] <L3top> !patience | ScumbagKanger
[17:11] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: I thought the laptops refresh rate just had to match the tv's refresh rate so I changed it to 60 in ccsm.
[17:11] <uni4dfx> Does anyone know how to configure Exim for multiple domains on Ubuntu?
[17:11] <intore_> ok, am in the console, i want use internet connection from the console for the moment but eth1 doesn't keep ip address
[17:11] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: It does not have to match
[17:11] <ejv> ScumbagKanger: two connected devices, for example, your network card and your modem, will auto-negotiate transmission parameters per the IEEE spec; look beyond Ubuntu.
[17:11] <akem> with NVidia at least, not sure for others, i remember posts saying it was because of the drivers so they wouldn't do anything about it...not sure.
[17:11] <francesco__> #cm-plus
[17:11] <ScumbagKanger> I've searched that and google all morning with no answers
[17:11] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: now that I looked at it, I don't think composit is for extenal displays. looks to be just for the laptop
[17:12] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: I don't think ccsm can control refesh rate of either display ... might be some other kind of refresh rate
[17:13] <ScumbagKanger> It has to be a setting in ubuntu because I get 100% of my down speed with windows, but not ubuntu. Wouldn't that be a logical assumption?
[17:14] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: any ideas?
[17:14] <dpac> hey guys, ubuntu is heating my laptop too much. Windows runs pretty cool, but ubuntu is atleast 15-20 degrees hotter. What can I do to fix it? Where do I start?
[17:15] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: Is there a refresh rate setting in the menu option thing?
[17:15] <noobly> Hey, can someone help me.. I am having trouble installing a USB wifi dongle on my 10.04 LTS. I keep getting [modules] Error 2 when I try to make the drivers.
[17:15] <kaziweb> I'm facing problem installing VLC media player--- it's giving message of "failed to download package file-- Check your Internet connection" Can anyone help me on this?
[17:15] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: like system settings you mean?
[17:15] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: yes
[17:16] <S4nD3r> Im running 11.04, and I got a message to upgrade to oneiric. What is better to do, install oneiric or upgrade from 11.04?
[17:16] <gameid> dpac: you may have something using up too much cpu
[17:17] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: not that I know of. this is my first time having to try anything with the displays
[17:17] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: normally its an automatic connection thing
[17:17] <dpac> gameid: Nope. top shows nothing
[17:17] <dlentz> S4nD3r, i personally would wait for 12.04 (coming in a few weeks) and do a fresh install of that
[17:17] <bastidrazor> S4nD3r: upgrades sometimes fail but i've upgraded this box from 11.04 all the way to 12.04 and no issues. in my opinion if you don't want to chance it, do a fresh install
[17:17] <kaziweb>  I'm facing problem installing VLC media player--- it's giving message of "failed to download package file-- Check your Internet connection" Can anyone help me on this?
[17:17] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: which version of Ubuntu do you have?
[17:18] <GirlyGirl> kaziweb: try "ping google.com"
[17:18] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: 11.10
[17:18] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: Search "display" in the unity dash and see what it comes up with
[17:18] <kaziweb> GirlyGirl:ok let me check
[17:18] <S4nD3r> Oh... Thank you. My friend started his upgrade. He's in my house, is it possible to stop upgrade process?
[17:18] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: lol
[17:19] <GirlyGirl> S4nD3r: Where has the upgrade reached
[17:19] <bastidrazor> S4nD3r: just let it upgrade then. its best not to stop it.
[17:19] <S4nD3r> It's downloading packages
[17:19] <jrib> bastidrazor: if it's still downloading packages, it should be safe to stop
[17:19] <jrib> S4nD3r: ^
[17:19] <francesco__> xdcc send #21
[17:20] <kaziweb> GirlyGirl: Yes this is pinging. My Internet connection is OK and I'm browsing fine.
[17:20] <GirlyGirl> kaziweb: Try "sudo apt-get update"
[17:20] <S4nD3r> Thanks for all GirlyGirl, dlentz and bastidrazor
[17:20] <Unknown0BC> Hi, do any of you guys get that your broadband connection disconnects and disappears from the networkmanager list ? ( oneiric )
[17:21] <Unknown0BC> Mine does so with non specific intervals.
[17:21] <S4nD3r> lol. He is crazy. Stopped the downloading process
[17:21] <crf> Hi. Has Shotwell dropped their photo-viewer application?
[17:22] <Zaitzev> hiya, I want to install a game using wine/winetricks, how do I proceed?
[17:22] <kaziweb> GirlyGirl: Ok its updating
[17:22] <GirlyGirl> kaziweb: Now try installing vlc again
[17:22] <toradam> #winehq
[17:23] <GirlyGirl> kaziweb: Also do you have a vlc ppa or something?
[17:23] <pentagonpie> Zaitzev: you download exe of game, right click, and "open with wine"
[17:24] <kaziweb> GirlyGirl: Ok let me try. no I don't have any vlc ppa
[17:24] <SecTec> is there an equivalent to device manger in Ubuntu?
[17:25] <GirlyGirl> SecTec: Not really as drivers work differently ... but you can try "restricted driver manager"
[17:25] <kaziweb> GirlyGirl: after updating I tried to install it from ubuntu software center. It is not installing.
[17:26] <GirlyGirl> kaziweb: Try with apt-get and produce the output
[17:26] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: Did you find a display setting?
[17:26] <Unknown0BC> Hi, do any of you guys get that your broadband connection disconnects and disappears from the networkmanager list ? ( oneiric )
[17:27] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: not that controls refresh rates
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Unknown0BC: is is adsl over Ethernet?
[17:27] <Kompulsa> sw: Connected it and synchronized it with an Ubuntu computer.
[17:27] <Kompulsa> jrib: Are you able to simply copy books from the computer to it as pdf files with no problem? and which Kindle is it? The touch (which I want), keyboard, or fire?
[17:27] <kaziweb> GirlyGirl: I'm very new user.  This is important to me because I have mostly PDFs. What format does it normally use?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Unknown0BC: when the link drops, run: dmesg | tail    it may give clues
[17:29] <Unknown0BC> ActionParsnip, It disconnects, not always, but when it does ( and it does to many times ) the connection dissapears from the Network manager list.
[17:29] <GirlyGirl> kaziweb: That is strange.
[17:29] <ivan__> hi, anyone can help me with a soundproblem in 11.10? sound is working in testspeakers on the g930 but not in other formats such as vlc..
[17:30] <Unknown0BC> ActionParsnip,  I see other people on the net with the same problem in oneiric. But don't see a resolution yet.
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> Unknown0BC: try precise live CD, see if its better
[17:30] <hetrinity> Howdy folks...
[17:30] <jrib> Kompulsa: well amazon tries to push it's own format (azw) but you can also use .mobi .  While the kindle can read many formats including PDF, PDFs won't be restructured to fit on your kindle (so you'll have to zoom and pan).  Or you can restructure the PDFs using some 3rd party tool.
[17:30] <Unknown0BC> ActionParsnip, to big a download for me now...
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> ivan__: do other apps work ok?
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> ivan__: try totem
[17:31] <Kompulsa> jrib: Ok, so the PDFs will at least be clear as long as I zoom?
[17:31] <jrib> Kompulsa: yeah
[17:31] <ivan__> i might try one ofc, ye sure i can try it thanks.
[17:32] <hetrinity> I'm still quite new to Linux, though, I've been trying several different distros. I have a question regarding Ubuntu when someone has a minute. 8)
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> hetrinity: ask away
[17:33] <jrib> Kompulsa: honestly I can't use it effectively to read PDFs (math articles).  Something like the larger kindle DX may be better suited then.  My advice would be to try with a friend's first to see if it works well enough fo r you
[17:33] <ssta> Kompulsa: calibre is an application that can convert pdf to mobi
[17:33] <SecTec> Thanks
[17:33] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: The setting looks like this http://www.picamatic.com/show/2012/04/09/09/34/8337879_1024x600.png
[17:34] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: should be something similar
[17:34] <kaspir> GirlyGirl:google produced this tho; xrandr -s 1280x1024 -r 75
[17:34] <kaziweb> GirlyGirl: ok opened terminal
[17:34] <aaa801> Is there a way to forward sound from a ubuntu x64 box without a soundcard, to a windows pc ?
[17:34] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: so what should i change the refresh rate to then?
[17:34] <kaziweb> GirlyGirl: it is working means installing through terminal.
[17:34] <kaziweb> GirlyGirl: it is done. thanks a lot dear.
[17:34] <dlentz> Unknown0BC, what LAN (wireless?) chipset do you have?
[17:34] <Unknown0BC> I get this strangest thing that my desktop icons disappear in oneiric. Sometimes they come back one time I had to reboot.
[17:34] <waxstone> hello, under 11.10 how do I get unity's preferences
[17:34] <Unknown0BC> dlentz, Why would you like to know ? I am talking about a broadband connection through a cellphone.
[17:34] <skel> aaa801: take a look at www.nomachine.com they've got a remote access solution that forwards sound as well as display and usb devices etc
[17:35] <dlentz> Unknown0BC, oh. certain chipsets are know to have issues with dropping connection
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Unknown0BC: sounds like nautilus crashed. Running it again will bring them back
[17:35] <ivan__> ActioParsnip: The thing is also, that sound aint working on youtube or spotify either, so dl that app wont be much help tbh
[17:35] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: I have that but it doesn't have the refresh rate setting. I found a command that will change it though. So what should it be changed to?
[17:35] <hetrinity> Cool 8)  I purchased a couple things in the Ubuntu Software Center a couple days back... I then decided to try the 12.04 beta out... I have two questions regarding the beta... (1) If I wanted to continue using the beta version until the final is released, will it become an actual 12.04 then, or will I have to reinstall at that time?
[17:35] <robinsmidsrod> is it possible to get casper livecd persistence on nfs?
[17:35] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: check the tv manual
[17:36] <robinsmidsrod> I haven't been able to pin down if it's possible, all the docs seem to focus on usb sticks
[17:36] <Unknown0BC> ActionParsnip, yes that makes sense. Nautilus crashes often on my new installation.
[17:36] <Unknown0BC> sucks.
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> ivan__: if run: alsamixer      are all levels cranked and unmuted
[17:36] <dlentz> !final | hetrinity
[17:36] <Zaitzev> pentagonpie: sounds easy enough, except the game won't run after install.
[17:36] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: I'm confused. I thought you said the laptop refresh rate needed to be changed. Not the TVs
[17:36] <hetrinity> (2) I tried downloading the two things I bought in Ubuntu Software Center from in the beta release, but they didn't show up to even install.
[17:36] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: the TVs refresh rate is 60.
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> hetrinity: #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 support please
[17:37] <Head> Hi guys, how do I get out of idle mode in terminal
[17:37] <Head> stays hanging and can type but can give no commandos
[17:37] <DasEi> robinsmidsrod: you could have a pxe-boot on a netshare, yes
[17:37] <kaspir> Head: try ctrl + q or quit
[17:38] <Head> ctrl + q = negative
[17:38] <Head> quit also = -
[17:38] <hetrinity> Oh, sorry about that... thanks for your input 8)
[17:38] <ivan__> ActioParsnip: All are up, exept the 2nd one <headpho>, but it wont go up with the arrow keys.. odd
[17:38] <DasEi> Head: terminating a command ? ctrl+c
[17:38] <Head> yep, worked
[17:38] <Head> thank you DasEi
[17:38] <DasEi> Head: welcome
[17:39] <littletinybaby> How am I supposed to write relative path names?
[17:39] <Head> DasEi, how do I acknowledge a message straight to you?
[17:39] <robinsmidsrod> DasEi: I already have my ubuntu livecd booted over pxe, now I'm trying to coerce casper into giving me COW persistence
[17:39] <Head> not @DasEi but..
[17:39] <littletinybaby> I have a folder within my source folder called "sounds" and I've tried "sounds/sound.mp3" but it don't work
[17:39] <DasEi> robinsmidsrod: I see, I'm overasked there, a hint: try by dd and a following sync on the share
[17:40] <dlentz> littletinybaby, maybe ./sounds/sound.mp3 ?
[17:40] <ant__> Anyone is coding in Python language?
[17:40] <Tynach> Hey, I'm getting this error when I run updates: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 2836CB0A8AC93F7A Launchpad Kubuntu Updates
[17:40] <pentagonpie> or sounds/sound.mp3
[17:40] <DasEi> Head: pm'ed you , see new tab
[17:40] <littletinybaby> dlentz: yup that was it
[17:40] <Tynach> I've tried deleting the the 2836CB0A8AC93F7A key, and re-adding it from the server.
[17:40] <littletinybaby> dlentz: gracias
[17:40] <Tynach> Doesn't work.
[17:40] <dlentz> yw
[17:41] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: Ask someone here about where you can find a control setting for changing refresh rates in ubuntu. Its bound to be there! I don't know where as I use kde. There has to be a setting like this http://www.picamatic.com/show/2012/04/09/09/34/8337879_1024x600.png in gnome
[17:41] <Tynach> ant__, I would recommend going to the #python channel if you want to learn or talk about Python.
[17:41] <sw> ant__: #python maybe?
[17:41] <ant__> ;o thx
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> ivan__: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[17:41] <ant__> didn't know lol
[17:42] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: ivan__: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[17:42] <jtyska> hello guys
[17:42] <sw> ant__: ALIS is rather helpful on that front. read '/msg alis help list'
[17:42] <Tynach> Anyone know how to fix the BADSIG error in Apt?
[17:42] <jtyska> i've upgraded ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04 beta using update-manager -d
[17:43] <dlentz> jtyska, see #ubuntu+1 for help with 12.04
[17:43] <sw> Tynach: can you pastebin the error in full, please?
[17:43] <JoseMourinho> hi guys, is possible to insert a daemon wicd in gnome shell like applet?
[17:43] <jtyska> dlentz: ok, thanks
[17:43] <ivan__> DasEi: domene link?
[17:43] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: Could you explain the refresh rate thing a little more. I a little confused because it seems like a couple things you said contradicted each other or I misunderstood.
[17:44] <DasEi> Tynach: prbly missing pgp-key ?
[17:44] <Tynach> http://pastebin.com/3axNEr32
[17:44] <Tynach> DasEi, I'm not missing a key because it's not saying NO_PUBKEY, it's saying BADSIG.
[17:44] <DasEi> ivan__: I just repeated ActionP, because I saw you where off a second, repeat the output to him
[17:45] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate#Computer_displays
[17:45] <ivan__> ah i see
[17:45] <sw> Tynach: did you try re-importing it?
[17:46] <JoseMourinho> do you help me?
[17:46] <DasEi> ask | JoseMourinho
[17:46] <DasEi> !ask
[17:46] <sw> DasEi: he's asked already, see above
[17:46] <Kompulsa> ssta
[17:46] <sw> what you're looking for, is !patience
[17:46] <Tynach> sw, yes I did. I tried deleting it with sudo apt-key del <key>, then added again with sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <key>.
[17:47] <Kompulsa> ssta: Ok, does it fit the .mobi to the screen properly after conversion?
[17:47] <JoseMourinho> dasei! i had ask
[17:47] <DasEi> sw: oh yes
[17:47] <ssta> Kompulsa: no idea, sorry.  I ust know it can convert between different formats
[17:47] <ssta> I don't have a kindle
[17:47] <JoseMourinho> hi guys, is possible to insert a daemon wicd in gnome shell like applet?
[17:48] <ivan__> none the wiser of that line anyways, o well. DasEi: you dont know why the <headpho> in alsamixer cant be moved? since its at 00 now
[17:48] <ivan__> might be the problem prhaps?
[17:48] <DasEi> JoseMourinho: sry, didn't see, you want the daemon automatically started ?
[17:48] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: ok so why would the refresh rate of the laptop determine whether or not it's displayed on the tv if ,like you said earlier, the two refresh rates don't have to match
[17:49] <JoseMourinho> dasei i want the daemon in up bar
[17:49] <JoseMourinho> like gnome 2.0 for example
[17:49] <DasEi> ivan__: can't say, you are sure the speaker icons above the faders are on=couloured ?
[17:50] <DasEi> JoseMourinho: wicd-gtk
[17:51] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: They don't have to match I never said they do ... but you need to set the correct setting for the tv to work
[17:51] <bobo37773> JoseMourinho: Daemon? Do you actually mean a notification icon?
[17:51] <Tynach> DasEi, I think he's less asking what package to install to get a wicd applet, and asking more if he can put a notification icon on the top bar instead of... Wherever Gnome3 puts them now.
[17:51] <kaspir> GirlyGirl: what would be considered the correct setting?
[17:52] <ShooterMG> does 11.10 ship with a utility to extract files from a .iso? I don't have enough disk space to mount the .iso and copy the files, but if i could somehow remove the files from the .iso as i copy them out, that would work. is there anything like this?
[17:52] <dillon58078> anyone had any issues installing ubuntu with a bluray drive?
[17:52] <JoseMourinho> dasei,part of the program with that command, I would that I appeared status as an applet or as extensions to gnome shell. in the bar at the top right
[17:52] <sddhrthrt> Tynach: Gnome3 Doesnt put t anywhere!
[17:52] <GirlyGirl> kaspir: The correct refresh rate of the tv set in display options
[17:52] <sddhrthrt> Tynach: Does that solution, of adding wicd to the 'Whitelist' work for Gnome3 too?
[17:52] <JoseMourinho> bobo37773 yes
[17:52] <dillon58078> anyone had any issues installing ubuntu with a bluray drive?
[17:52] <Tynach> sddhrthrt, I thought it put it in some weird panel that you accessed by moving the mouse in the bottom right corner, or something weird like that.
[17:53] <Tynach> sddhrthrt, at any rate, it's not my question - I have no interest in Gnome 3.
[17:53] <ivan__> DasEi: if you mean in alsa, it's green 00
[17:53] <sddhrthrt> Tynach: Well, i was suggesting a unity solution, faced the same problem there
[17:53] <DasEi> JoseMourinho: maybe in a minute, I Think my lappy has such , will look, second, booting it now
[17:53] <salaria> Hi, I have a package which is in compress file .tar.gz, how can i install that program! im using ubuntu 10.04 plz help
[17:54] <sddhrthrt> Tynach: Anyway chuck
[17:54] <bobo37773> JoseMourinho: I do not think it will show up in the top. It should show up where the rest of your notification icons are though. I think they may be in the bottom right or something. Not 100% sure as I do not use gnome. I do know that you will probably need to unload networkmanager before loading wicd though
[17:54] <ssta> salaria: tar zxvf foo.tar.gz
[17:54] <ssta> salaria: generqally though, prefer to install software from the repository (software centre I suppose)
[17:55] <Tynach> ShooterMG, I don't think it comes with it by default, but you can install iso mounting software in Ubuntu from the repositories.
[17:55] <bekks> "iso mounting software"?
[17:55] <bekks> What is that besides mount -o loop ...?
[17:55] <dlentz> Tynach, s/he already said that there's not enought disk space to mount the iso
[17:56] <ShooterMG> Tynach: basically my problem is that i have a .iso that i need to extract, but i don't have enough space for temporarily storing two copies of each file
[17:56] <Tynach> bekks, it's different in that you have a fancy interface.
[17:56] <ssta> umm, mounting an iso takes no diskspace
[17:56] <salaria> ssta, tar zxvf is used to extract files of install?
[17:56] <ssta> salaria: yes
[17:56] <salaria> *or install?
 and dasei. I installed the program into practice. PC connects, but unlike gnome gnome shell 2 in the icon does not appear that detects an internet connection.
[17:56] <Tynach> ShooterMG, mounting does not take any disk space. You can mount the iso, select files, hit 'Cut', and then paste them where you want them.
[17:56] <Tynach> ShooterMG, I think. It may be that mounted ISO files are read-only. I don't know.
[17:57] <ShooterMG> hmm
[17:57] <salaria> ssta,  I want to install the package not extract?
[17:57] <bekks> Tynach: A gui for mount?
[17:57] <bekks> Mounted iso files are read-only, of course.
[17:57] <Tynach> bekks, I think the ISO mounting software I've seen uses FUSE.
[17:57] <ssta> salaria: extract it, then look inside there for a README or INSTALL file or something.  They all install differently
[17:57] <bekks> Thats not necessary at all.
[17:57] <dlentz> salaria, there is no package, it's source code
[17:57] <dlentz> salaria, what are you trying to install?
[17:57] <bekks> Tynach: You can just use mount -o loop ... without installing additional software.
[17:58] <ssta> salaria: but installing from the repository is generally much better
[17:58] <salaria> i have wampserver's package
[17:58] <Tynach> bekks, I know I can, but maybe ShooterMG doesn't want to use the command line?
[17:58] <salaria> do i need to compile the source code
[17:58] <ssta> I thought archive mounter could mount them GUIwise?  That's default installed I believe?
[17:59] <ssta> salaria: is that a LAMP stack?
[17:59] <salaria> ssta,  yes it is but few softwares are not available under ubuntu software center
[17:59] <salaria> its wamp
[17:59] <DasEi> JoseMourinho: yes in luvbuntu it's just wicd, that starts automatically and then has an icon in the right downsode corner
[17:59] <DasEi> lubuntu*
[17:59] <Tynach> salaria, 'wamp' basically means "Windows Apache MySQL PHP". The key word there is Windows, which means it's meant to run on Windows.
[18:00] <sw> salaria: wamp is for Windows, lamp is for Linux
[18:00] <sw> !lamp | salaria
[18:00] <ShooterMG> bekks: actually I'm using that command and I have the image mounted, but now I don't have enough space to copy everything out of it. if i could somehow do an mv on these files, that'd be great, but it seems like .iso is readonly
[18:00] <Tynach> salaria, the Linux equivalent (and original) is LAMP, "Linux Apache MySQL PHP". You can just install the Apache and other files.
[18:00] <ssta> salaria: LAMP is the same thing, but for Linux I believe.  You can install a LAMP stack from the software centre
[18:01] <Tynach> I actually took a class on how to install/configure LAMP software (albeit on RedHat), and have plenty of practice doing it on Debian and Ubuntu. If you need help, you can ask me :)
[18:01] <bekks> ShooterMG: You cant do that, because a mounted .iso file is read-only.
[18:01] <salaria> i went to wamp's website and found that they have a linux package as well... so i downloaded... well, its all ok I ws just keen to know about installing tar.gz like files and got solution i believe.
[18:01] <Warden> can somebody help me with a black screen problem?
[18:01] <salaria> :)
[18:01] <Warden> I'm trying to use ubuntu for the first time and I cant fix the black screen
[18:02] <salaria> now I have configured web server manually using apt-get install apache2
[18:02] <ssta> salaria: sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[18:02] <Tynach> bekks, do you know if opening a .iso file with an archive manager will allow you to 'cut and paste'? For that matter, ShooterMG, why are you out of disk space? Is this just a small thumbdrive, or is your HD just cluttered?
[18:02] <ssta> salaria: as easy as that...and you have all the package managed advantages and none of the heartache
[18:02] <sw> !source | salaria
[18:02] <ShooterMG> Tynach: i'm trying to set up a call of duty server on my dedicated virtual, and my account only allows for 10GB :P
[18:03] <Tynach> ShooterMG, do you have FTP/SFTP access?
[18:03] <bekks> Tynach: I know. An .iso file is always read-only from its content. You cant cut out files from an .iso file.