[12:17] <TheMesquito> LapJup: Proxy jumber
[12:17] <TheMesquito> Jumper
[12:17] <LapJup> hmmm
[12:17] <qballer> guys anyone else can help with the wifi ?
[12:17] <philinux> qballer;~ can you connect wired
[12:18] <hateball> qballer, histo: Had you checked rfkill so it's not blocked? Also did dmesg spew out anything?
[12:18] <sydney> qballer: I have a couple mins;whats wrong?
[12:18] <qballer> hateball: nothing is blocked
[12:19] <qballer> Right now sydney it doesn't event connect to my wifi network. before it did, but when it did not internet.
[12:19] <LapJup> TheMesquito: that makes it tough. but it is a shame to have togo +r to stop it
[12:19] <qballer> hateball: dmesg?
[12:19] <TheMesquito> Yeah, the script kidde will get tierd eventuly and stop
[12:19] <TheMesquito> LapJup: ^
[12:20] <hateball> qballer: run "dmesg" in a terminal, it might show some interesting debug info with regards to wifi. Can you see networks at all?
[12:20] <sydney> !offtopic| LapJup
[12:21] <eeee> LapJup: we need a maximum line length for 2 msgs in a row and it'd be fixed
[12:21] <TJ-> qballer: If you're using the regular Network Manager to manage the WiFi connection, you'll find copious logging in "/var/log/syslog"
[12:21] <Hxxx> has anybody being able to use tightvncserver in ubuntu 14.04, and been able to connect and get a working desktop?
[12:22] <Ben64> eeee: not on topic here, but you're free to add it to the bot and see if it gets approved
[12:22] <qballer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7741697/
[12:22] <LapJup> understand. just wanted to say this and i am done with the off topic. :-)i hang  out on efnet and just have a client here for the linux channels. we do not have +r on efnet. but i have found that going +i, +v, or +iv for a few minuets and that uusually works
[12:22] <qballer> that for you hateball http://paste.ubuntu.com/7741697/
[12:24] <qballer> TJ Yea i see the stuff at log. what about that?
[12:24] <qballer> \
[12:24] <qballer> (opse)
[12:24] <ldsh> dmesg gives me: "intel_rapl: domain uncore energy ctr 205887:205887 not working, skip" ; Code related to this message: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/powercap/intel_rapl.c#L1162 . I need some help to trouble shoot this.
[12:24] <WolfInSheepskin> hey jo
[12:25] <WolfInSheepskin> I want to create a new partition table on my usb stick, what type should I use?
[12:25] <TJ-> qballer: pastebin the section of 'syslog' that shows a complete connection attempt; that may help in diagnosing the failure
[12:25] <histo> WolfInSheepskin: mbr
[12:25] <WolfInSheepskin> for ubuntu
[12:25] <WolfInSheepskin> ?
[12:25] <WolfInSheepskin> or linux
[12:25] <histo> WolfInSheepskin: what?
[12:25] <WolfInSheepskin> what is mbr??
[12:25] <ldsh> WolfInSheepskin, What do you want to do with theses partitions?
[12:26] <histo> WolfInSheepskin: the type of partition table you are going to create
[12:26] <WolfInSheepskin> make it a bootable usb stick
[12:26] <k1l> WolfInSheepskin: a new partition table will erase all partitions and data on there
[12:26] <WolfInSheepskin> yes
[12:26] <eeee> WolfInSheepskin: bootable? what will you be booting?
[12:26] <WolfInSheepskin> so mbr is right?
[12:26] <WolfInSheepskin> linux distros
[12:26] <WolfInSheepskin> like ubuntu
[12:26] <TJ-> WolfInSheepskin: Do you mean, whether to choose legacy/MBR or EFI/GPT table types?
[12:27] <eeee> WolfInSheepskin: use UNetBootin to install distro iso's on a USB
[12:27] <WolfInSheepskin> I don't know I have to choose the table type
[12:27] <qballer> I deleted all the logs and now  I'm trying to reconnect
[12:27] <WolfInSheepskin> yes but I have to greate a new partition table
[12:28] <k1l> WolfInSheepskin: the type is mbr
[12:28] <WolfInSheepskin> ok good
[12:28] <makara> WolfInSheepskin: just use the Startup Disk Creator. It does all that for you
[12:28] <WolfInSheepskin> ok
[12:28] <WolfInSheepskin> hm
[12:28] <qballer> TJ
[12:29] <qballer> I deleted the syslog and triec to reconnect to see what loggint it will spew out. nothing
[12:29] <WolfInSheepskin> There is no mbr
[12:29] <skinofstars> hey guys. i'm hitting problems with my login. the box that you put your password in isn't there
[12:29] <TJ-> qballer: Why did you delete the log-file? You've upset the rsyslog daemon now
[12:30] <WolfInSheepskin> There is no mbr type, there is msdos, amica, mac ect
[12:30] <eeee> WolfInSheepskin: use sudo cgdisk
[12:30] <WolfInSheepskin> The most reasonable would be bsd I guess
[12:30] <TJ-> WolfInSheepskin: "msdos" is legacy/MBR
[12:30] <WolfInSheepskin> aha ok
[12:30] <WolfInSheepskin> secret information
[12:30] <k1l> WolfInSheepskin: msdos
[12:30] <skinofstars> i've jumped jumped to ctrl+alt+f1 to get on irc. i'd really like to be able to get in to my desktop
[12:30] <eeee> when it prompts for the type press "L" and then choose MBR partition scheme
[12:30] <WolfInSheepskin> ok thx
[12:30] <qballer> How do I reset it ?
[12:30] <qballer> Did I break the PIPe ?
[12:31] <skinofstars> is there a way i can restart the screenlock service?
[12:31] <k1l> skinofstars: sudo lightdm restart
[12:31] <TJ-> qballer: I *hope* you can simply do "sudo service rsyslogd restart" but I recall in the past that deleting a log from under the daemon can sometimes prevent it from recreating the file for some strange reason, so check the file is created and being written to once the rsyslogd daemon restarts
[12:32] <qballer> unrecognised service
[12:33] <TheRedPirate_Rob> hi
[12:33] <eeee> qballer: type sudo service lightdm restart
[12:33] <eeee> (i think)
[12:33] <qballer> unrecognised
[12:33] <eeee> qballer: nevermind wrong user
[12:33] <eeee> sorry
[12:33] <qballer> ok
[12:33] <skinofstars> that returned an error "Failed to use bus name org.freedesktop.DisplayManager, do you have the right permissions?"
[12:33] <eeee> skinofstars: use sudo
[12:33] <skinofstars> eeee: i did :)
[12:33] <eeee> i mean try sudo service lightdm restart
[12:35] <skinofstars> eeee: ok, that got me in, but it's a reset desktop
[12:35] <eeee> u mean everything you had open is closed ?
[12:35] <skinofstars> eeee: yeah
[12:35] <k1l> yes, that did restart the x-server
[12:36] <k1l> but you were talking about loggin in from booting, right?
[12:36] <skinofstars> k1l: right.
[12:36] <skinofstars> it was a screensave lock
[12:36] <skinofstars> it's happening a lot
[12:37] <skinofstars> what i've been having to do is switch tty, gracefully shut down things that might brake, like VMs, then rebooting from terminal. i guess just restarting x is better, but i'd rather i didn't have to keep doing this :(
[12:37] <skinofstars> s/brake/break/
[12:38] <skinofstars> haha, no, i was right with the first brake :)
[12:38] <eeee> i just checked it
[12:39] <eeee> this is what runs when you lock: /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service --lockscreen-mode
[12:39] <zartoosh> histo, I know how to list installed debian packages on a system using dpkg -l. If I want to know a specific pkg is installed, is there a better command than dpkg -l | grep <pkgname>   thx.
[12:41] <hateball> zartoosh: What would be "better"? The command given returns if it's installed or not, doesnt it?
[12:41] <jack> zartoosh, i always do dpkg -S bla
[12:42] <eeee> skinofstars: if you kill that it keeps restarting by itself
[12:42] <skinofstars> zartoosh: you can do dpkg-query -l foo
[12:43] <skinofstars> eeee: ok, i'll look in to that. it's getting really fustrating though :(
[12:43] <eeee> i tried killing other stuff that started at the same time but it still restarts
[12:43] <eeee> skinofstars: it's freezing when it locks ?
[12:44] <skinofstars> eeee: the mouse still works. it's like just the input widget is missing
[12:44] <skinofstars> eeee: when i have two screens, it sometimes appears on one and not the other
[12:44] <skinofstars> just mouse over each side and see which one appears
[12:45] <skinofstars> eeee: hold up, let me jump to my terminal on my desktop
[12:46] <skinofstars> eeee: yeah, it's happening pretty much every day now
[12:46] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> May i ask what rc stands for? I've seen .bashrc and other files with rc in it and wanted to know what it stands for
[12:48] <Mathisen> Runtime Configuration ... maybe ? not 100 % on this
[12:48] <ReBui|der> server irc.abjects.net
[12:49] <piraxx> Hello. Is there any way to check the history from Ubuntu Software Center on another Ubuntu machine?
[12:53] <eeee> skinofstars: i dont know if it might work but in a thread i saw that renaming the xorg might work
[12:53] <MegaCat> Is the 14.04 more stable then 12.04 in your opinion?
[12:53] <Annihilator_> yes
[12:54] <TJ-> GuyThatNeedsHelp: "rc" comes from the runcom util on a pre-Unix OS
[12:54] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I haz another question about domain names an example like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ or http://paste.ubuntu.com/  ubuntu.com is the original domain name and i wanted to know how to do this for localhost like cheese.localhost
[12:54] <skinofstars> piraxx: if you could ssh in, you could check apt history
[12:55] <MegaCat> Annihilator_, Are u talking to me?
[12:55] <dino82> GuyThatNeedsHelp: Look up the concept of subdomains
[12:55] <Annihilator_> yes
[12:55] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> THANK YOU
[12:56] <MegaCat> Annihilator_, Okey, why's that? Why is it more stable? Because i've used 12.04, and its very unstable on my device
[12:56] <skinofstars> TJ-, GuyThatNeedsHelp: interesting. thanks
[12:56] <TJ-> GuyThatNeedsHelp: for the localhost itself, add entries to "/etc/hosts" is the usual method ("man 5 hosts")
[12:56] <piraxx> skinofstars, thanks.
[12:56] <Annihilator_> tell me your Pc specifications Megacat
[12:58] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I know about changing the domain just wanted to know what they call it so i tried to make it linux related so someone would answer
[12:58] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Thanks a lot though
[13:02] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Also may i ask what GTK is?
[13:03] <k1l> gnome toolkit
[13:03] <jack> GuyThatNeedsHelp, a few libraries with widgets, gui stuff
[13:04] <jack> used by gnome etc
[13:04] <k1l> but i bet there is a wiki page somewhere that explains it as much as you like :)
[13:04] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> it stands for gnome toolkit though?
[13:04] <jack> GuyThatNeedsHelp, or GNU
[13:04] <jack> not sure there
[13:04] <k1l> gnome
[13:04] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK+
[13:05] <Annihilator_> How long does it take to download Ubuntu?
[13:05] <k1l> oh no, it was gimp toolkit
[13:05] <bhavesh> Annihilator_, it depends on your internet speed?
[13:05] <Denise21>  You can find funny videos here. http://bit.ly/1o4kZuu
[13:05] <jack> yeah right k1l
[13:06] <Annihilator_> oh...sorry i mean installation bhavesh
[13:06] <bhavesh> Annihilator_, well, for me it takes around 7-8 minutes
[13:06] <Annihilator_> ok thanks
[13:06] <MegaCat> Annihilator_, I got a AMD cpu, nvidia gpu and a asus motherboard if that can help. It crashes randomly under hevy load. It's not the hardwares fault, i've tested that.
[13:07] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> it strange though since gimp is just a image editor
[13:08] <k1l> GuyThatNeedsHelp: they made a system for their program that is used for other programs, too. for more infos please see the wiki page you linked
[13:11] <gattler> hi, how can i force an ubuntu initramfs to drop to a shell BEFORE trying to moung the rootfs ?
[13:11] <survietamine> hello, inside an OpenVZ container, I cannot get rpcbind started automatically at boot time. I've checked /etc/init/rpcbind-boot.conf but cannot see what's wrong. If I manually do "start rpcbind", it's ok.
[13:11] <survietamine> it is an 14.04 template
[13:11] <marcantoine>  #ada
[13:13] <mariusz__> hello
[13:15] <phelix> Ubuntu's file browser is really annoying.  I can't just right click inside there anywhere to create a new folder or to past or copy something as it always selects a file and the right click only applies to the properties of that file.. its a real pain in the ass.. anytone else have this problem or is it just me?
[13:16] <marlo_> phelix, me also
[13:17] <phelix> Is there a better file manager program we can use?
[13:17] <k1l> shift+ctrl+n is new folder
[13:17] <phelix> well how about pasting new files into a folder.
[13:17] <marlo_> i don't like to sound like i'm whinning, but most file browsers suck... but i've not bothered to go exploring or just write my own... i just put up with it
[13:17] <eeee> ctrl+v
[13:17] <phelix> you have to go up to edit and paste every time
[13:17] <APrOn> Hello
[13:17] <ldsh> phelix, I use nautilus with icons and I just right click between two icons and it works. You can also use the keyboard touch (usualy right of the space touch, near the ctrl and alt touches.
[13:17] <phelix> you can't ctr-v cause any file in the folder selects something
[13:18] <phelix> there is no clear spot in the folder to click on where it won't highlight another file
[13:18] <eeee> phelix: i dont have that problem though, if i click *right* next to a folder it doesnt even select it
[13:18] <phelix> yah right click for me selects the file
[13:18] <phelix> I am using nautalis i beleive
[13:18] <k1l> phelix: you dont need to click into there to paste there
[13:19] <phelix> then how is the best way to paste it? without having ot go to edit and then paste?
[13:19] <eeee> phelix: me too, but it only selects a file if it physically touches the icon
[13:19] <k1l> ctrl+v
[13:19] <phelix> well you have to select the window to paste into right?
[13:19] <APrOn> Hello
[13:20] <bcvery> APrOn: Hi, please ask you support question
[13:20] <phelix> if clicking in that window anywhere highlights a folder the paste option doesn't exist
[13:20] <k1l> phelix: you dont need to make a mouse click
[13:20] <k1l> just press ctrl+v
[13:20] <k1l> forget about your wish to click everything
[13:20] <eeee> phelix: even if you select a file, you can still paste
[13:20] <phelix> I dunno, maybe i am just complaining but its kind of annoying when coming from windows where you can easily click anywhere in a folder and be able to create folder or paste into it
[13:21] <phelix> eeee: Not with me I cant
[13:21] <eeee> phelix: something is wrong..
[13:21] <phelix> if a folder or file gets highlighted i no longer have paste option
[13:21] <ldsh> phelix, when you enter the folder, you have selected this folder, but none of the folder in it, so it is right to 'ctrl+v' directly.
[13:21] <k1l> phelix: what about it is nonsense to need to "click everywhere" first instead of just pasting it ?
[13:21] <APrOn> Hello
[13:21] <eeee> phelix: are you talking about when you right click ? or when you ctrl+v ?
[13:22] <phelix> k1l: I can't just paste it into /dev/null I have to select the window first
[13:22] <phelix> both
[13:22] <eeee> phelix: i think you dont have permission to paste
[13:22] <eeee> or something like that
[13:22] <phelix> I mean I guess if i only select the directory by clicking the top header i can just ctrl-v
[13:22] <eeee> try gksu nautilus .
[13:22] <k1l> phelix: how come we talk about a shortcut and you talk about a mouse-right-click menue? do you get that?
[13:23] <phelix> i have permision to paste.. you right click on a file in your folder and tell me you see a paste option
[13:23] <eeee> (beware that's using nautilus as with root privileges)
[13:23] <phelix> k1l: yes but is what I am saying is if any file is highlighted in that window you can not paste
[13:23] <phelix> you have to unselect it first
[13:23] <k1l> phelix: several users told you, that you dont need the windows habbit to click into that
[13:24] <eeee> phelix: i know, that's why i was asking if you meant right click isnt working or ctrl+v, cuz ctrl+v SHOULD work
[13:24] <phelix> i guess its just taking some getting used to
[13:25] <OerHeks> phelix, right top side there are 2 icons, list and icon view, with icon view i can paste
[13:26] <phelix> OerHeks: ahh yes with icon view there is enough space inbetween them you can actually not click on a file but.. i hate that view lol
[13:26] <ldsh> phelix, In the to-right corner, right to the search button, you have the choice to have a list or to have icons. Takes icons, there will be enough space between them to click and unselect.
[13:26] <eeee> oh ok i was talking about icon view
[13:26] <phelix> I'll just have to get used to it. I just find it really annoying as I am used to doing it a certain way
[13:26] <phelix> yeah.. I don't use icon view I like list view.. its a much more pain in the ass using list view
[13:27] <OerHeks> phelix, you might want to make a bureport, as it is a little anoying indeed ( i 'll be happy to confirm it)
[13:27] <OerHeks> *bugreport
[13:27] <phelix> Yea, not sure it will do anything but I might just have to do that. :)
[13:28] <OerHeks> "make some space in front of the files, or below the files"
[13:28] <eeee> phelix: you could add a script for new folder and paste
[13:28] <jhutchins> phelix: I know with thunar in detailed list mode you can click farther to the right than the file name and it won't selct.
[13:28] <phelix> yah, would be nice. or jsut allow paste option or create new folder or file option even though a file or folder is selected
[13:28] <jhutchins> phelix: I use enough different file navagators I've gotten used to just figuring out how they work and dealing with it.
[13:28] <OerHeks> jhutchins +1 i found that workable too
[13:29] <eeee> phelix: i have a solution for you, right click on the folder up near the arrows and click on paste into folder! ;)
[13:29] <phelix> jhutchins: Yea, im just being picky
[13:29] <eeee> like "Home" with the picture of the house next to it
[13:29] <APrOn> Hello
[13:29] <phelix> eeee: Yea I just have to remember to only click the area where you would to drag the window around then you can paste with ctrl-v
[13:29] <jhutchins> phelix: Something that will only make you unhappy.
[13:29] <eeee> no, phelix i mean you can paste with the right click
[13:30] <phelix> ahh yah, it works by clicking there too
[13:30] <eeee> phelix: right click on the name of the folder you are in, above next to the arrows
[13:30] <eeee> yeah
[13:31] <ubantu> hiii
[13:31] <ubantu> hiii hero
[13:31] <eeee> ubantu: please ask your question
[13:32] <ubantu> is ubantu work on window
[13:33] <ubantu> hii mamuth
[13:33] <eeee> you can have windows + ubuntu on the same computer, on seperate partitions
[13:33] <conxyli> hi
[13:34] <ubantu> what is sqid
[13:34] <conxyli> I m currently reinstalling 14.04 after a messing around with compiz desktop tweakings got my system unusable and furthermore all howtos on how to reset those settings didnt work because the command chain got hanged
[13:34] <conxyli> after reinstalling the system didnt even boot up anymore, but ok
[13:34] <ubantu> hiii suk
[13:35] <holstein> compiz is integrated into unity in ubuntu conxyli ..you really shouldnt use it like that
[13:35] <conxyli> holstein: I followed "howtos"
[13:35] <ubantu> suid
[13:35] <ubantu> squid
[13:35] <holstein> conxyli: they can change, *anytime*.. its not a static project to be messed with like that, really.. not anymore
[13:35] <sukanya> Hellp
[13:35] <sukanya> Hello
[13:35] <ubantu> hello
[13:36] <conxyli> so how can I get osx-like effects and zoom enabled with unity ?
[13:36] <conxyli> I really need that zoom
[13:36] <holstein> conxyli: there are lots of compositors
[13:36] <ubantu> hii suk today im usig this ist
[13:36] <jhutchins> conxyli: Most of us run linux, not osx, so we don't know what effects you're looking for.
[13:36] <OerHeks> conxyli, hold left ctrl and roll your mousewheel
[13:37] <ubantu> hiii any me
[13:37] <k1l> ubantu: please stick to technical ubuntu support in here.
[13:38] <bcvery> !squid3 | ubantu
[13:38] <conxyli> can you tell me how - with 2 displays - I can prevent the launcher from appearing on the left corner of the two displays ? (no, mirroring is not enabled, I only need the launcher in the left display)
[13:38] <ubantu> squid
[13:38] <bcvery> !info squid3 | ubuntu
[13:38] <trijntje> conxyli: settings -> Appearance -> behaviour
[13:38] <ubantu> is se kaya hota hai
[13:39] <conxyli> trijntje: I dont see a solution for my problem in those settings.
[13:39] <conxyli> there is no way on telling it to appear only on the left display
[13:40] <k1l> !in | ubantu
[13:40] <conxyli> ah got it
[13:40] <conxyli> its in isplays
[13:40] <trijntje> conxyli: it could also be settings -> monitors
[13:40] <trijntje> ah yes, I'm not on ubuntu now so I couldn't check
[13:40] <actionparsnip> Hey guys, got a server where users are reporting "slowness", is an iowait of 10% ok in a virtual server?
[13:42] <conxyli> left-ctrl + mouse wheel wont deliver me a zoom function with which I can magnify any portion of the screen seamlessly
[13:42] <gp5st> hello. I have a server where /dev/tty always get's set to c0600 on a new shell. this is causing problems and i'm not sure how to make changes to it permanent
[13:44] <holstein> conxyli: seemlessly? or not at all?
[13:44] <conxyli> seamlessly
[13:44] <conxyli> meaning: any area of the screen can be magnified continuously
[13:44] <holstein> conxyli: so, what is happening? and what do you want to have happen?
[13:44] <conxyli> as in: opposite to discrete
[13:45] <conxyli> holstein: osx zoom function : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNxKJ4bVavk
[13:45] <trijntje> conxyli: you could install compizconfig-settings-manager, it has some zoom options I think. Just be carefull not to break your desktop environment ;)
[13:46] <conxyli> trijntje: this "manager" was the reason for my previous reinstall. any resetting procedure having no effect
[13:46] <holstein> conxyli: so, what is happening? and what do you want to have happen?
[13:46] <conxyli> holstein: pls watch the video
[13:46] <oaulakh> there's problem in dual bot timing
[13:47] <trijntje> conxyli: I don't think anything like in the video is available for compiz anyway
[13:47] <holstein> conxyli: i probably wont.. there are many other volunteers here.. and if i have time to watch a video in order to volunteer assistance, i'll let you konw
[13:48] <Tomes> Helloo, could someone explain why can't I see jpg images on ubuntu?
[13:48] <holstein> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbVbM74E0gk is what i had used.. conxyli
[13:48] <Tomes> nvm
[13:48] <qballer> Still no luck/wifi
[13:49] <qballer> :\
[13:49] <oaulakh> there's problem in dual bot timing, means i have ubuntu and windows 8 and when i boot any of one time will change and i have to set it manually after starting of OS
[13:49] <holstein> qballer: wifi wont work with "luck".. do you need driver support? is it available in the kernel or the repos? what have you tried? do you see the device in lspci/lsusb? ifconfig?
[13:49] <qballer> Tj
[13:50] <qballer> I've been talking with couple of people through out the day. It's some kind of a driver issue i GUes.
[13:50] <qballer> I am getting an IP from the router.
[13:50] <qballer> The router is connected
[13:50] <qballer> but no outgoing communication.
[13:51] <qballer> I'm connect via USB of my cell.
[13:51] <qballer> I've just reinstalled my machine (switched to Kubuntu
[13:51] <holstein> qballer: do you have other machines connected through the router? try isolating issues.. use wired connection to troubleshoot the modem functioning
[13:51] <oaulakh> there's problem in dual bot timing, means i have ubuntu and windows 8 and when i boot any of one time will change and i have to set it manually after starting of OS, anyone know about how i can sync both system's clock
[13:52] <conxyli> oh compiz has it - just configured it. not as nice as with osx, but works
[13:52] <qballer> holstein: yes. the router is fine.
[13:52] <qballer> I have my cell connected to it.
[13:52] <holstein> qballer: so, you have other computers connected through the router? and they are connecting?
[13:52] <qballer> it's bridging network access to the PC via USB
[13:53] <qballer> yes. and having outbound coomunication
[13:53] <qballer> communication **
[13:53] <holstein> qballer: i read "my phone is connecting through the router" "its bridging connection to the PC"
[13:54] <jhutchins> Okaria: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Make_Windows_use_UTC
[13:54] <jhutchins> oaulakh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Make_Windows_use_UTC
[13:54] <jhutchins> Okaria: Sorry, wrong tab.
[13:54] <qballer> my phone is USB tethring... the phone it's self is connected to the router to get network.
[13:55] <holstein> qballer: not likely.. the phone is likely connecting via its 3g or 4g or whatever cellular connection..
[13:55] <qballer> No data plan
[13:55] <holstein> qballer: will you unplug the phone from the computer, and wire the computer to the router and test?
[13:56] <qballer> Wire with cable or to test the wifi
[13:56] <holstein> qballer: then, you can run "ifconfig" and see that the wired and wireless devices are showing there.. then, i suggest removing the wifi access point from "the list" of access points, and reconnecting to the router
[13:56] <qballer> DId that.
[13:56] <holstein> qballer: im suggesting, wire the computer to the router and see if it is connecting. to test the router without the wifi..
[13:57] <qballer> OK
[13:57] <qballer> no cable. My girlfriend pc with windows is connected no problem.
[13:58] <jay_> yo yo eeee it's all good in da hood man
[13:59] <holstein> qballer: most of my other suggestions involve a lan cable.. plugging in and updating would be a nice option.. otherwise, test that you see the device in "ifconfig".. reconnect after removing the wifi access point from the list.. refer to..
[13:59] <jay_> holstein, was right it seems so far. it was just my video driver causing all of those freeze ups
[13:59] <holstein> !wifi | qballer
[13:59] <jay_> hey holstein you are the man
[13:59] <holstein> jay_: cheers.. glad its working  for you
[13:59] <jay_> no freezes since using the proprietary driver!
[14:00] <jay_> :)
[14:12] <Rahoul> hi
[14:21] <ubus> installed vmware tools on my ubuntu dekstop 12.04LTS which runs as a vm on vsphere
[14:21] <ubus> however i doesn't seem to work
[14:22] <Messi> There is a file, all the code in it is Python but its obfuscated to .exe, the code is obfuscated and the file turned from a .py to a .exe, how can I get the original python code back? Is there anyway to decrypt?
[14:23] <mguy> obfuscated != compiled
[14:23] <ubus> installed vmware tools on my ubuntu dekstop 12.04LTS which runs as a vm on vsphere
[14:23] <PreSSion> hello guys
[14:23] <ubus> however i doesn't seem to work
[14:23] <Messi> mguy: is there any way t get the original code back?
[14:23] <mguy> ubus: stop repeating yourself. What doesn't seem to work, exactly?
[14:23] <mguy> Messi: ask in #python
[14:23] <Messi> I did, nobody is answering.
[14:24] <mguy> Well why would #ubuntu know? .exe files have nothign to do with Ubuntu
[14:24] <ubus> mguy nobody answered ... can't copy to vm , dekstop doesn't go fullscreen, still stuck in the damn small window
[14:24] <reisio> they probably haven't :)
[14:24] <reisio> ubus: what VM system is it?
[14:24] <PreSSion> ubuntu 14.10 with mir and unity 8,.. what kind of extension libreoffice will have? like .odt .doc ..... its cuz i want start some projects, but then i want share the libreoffice or openoffice in ubuntu 14.10 with mir, and i am not sure if this will have got the same extension
[14:24] <PreSSion> sry for my "engrish"
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> PreSSion  ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:25] <reisio> PreSSion: it'll be the same as ever for Open/Libre/Office
[14:25] <PreSSion> so .odt?
[14:25] <PreSSion> and .odc
[14:25] <PreSSion> .doc
[14:25] <reisio> PreSSion: whatever it's always been
[14:25] <PreSSion> okay, thanks
[14:26] <PreSSion> i don't understand so much about ubuntu
[14:26] <reisio> Open/LibreOffice development has not progressed much lately, as it's a very mature product
[14:26] <reisio> and it has almost nothing to do with Ubuntu developers
[14:26] <reisio> it's just a package that Ubuntu helps you obtain is all
[14:26] <k1l> libre/open office file ending is not ubuntu related. ubuntu uses the standard that libre/open office uses
[14:26] <reisio> ubus: yes?
[14:27] <PreSSion> ahh, i think i understand
[14:28] <pjotter> Hello everyone. I'm trying to automount a NAS at startup using fstab. But so far, it happens a lot that the mount procedure starts while the network is not ready, rsulting in the NAS not being mounted. I tried adding _netdev to the fstab options, but that did not make any difference. I am on 12.04 and using smbfs/cifs to mount the NAS.
[14:28] <ubus> reiso esxi, 5.5.0
[14:28] <PreSSion> i want to buy the ubuntu phone, that's really fine with me, cuz i hate go with my big laptop to my work for all the city with all the hot, and with ubuntu phone will be very easy
[14:28] <reisio> ubus: vmware esxi, 'esxi' is not a proper name :p
[14:29] <reisio> ubus: you'll need to enable vmware's guest additions thing
[14:29] <k1l> PreSSion: for ubuntu phone related questions you can ask in #ubuntu-touch
[14:29] <reisio> ubus: might be called 'vmware-tools' for Ubuntu
[14:29] <ubus> vmware vsphere 5 essentials
[14:30] <PreSSion> nice, i have got some different question
[14:30] <ubus> need to a reboot
[14:30] <ubus> back in a few sec
[14:30] <Ilpokypop> test
[14:30] <reisio> Ilpokypop: pass
[14:30] <reisio> ubus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Tools
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> check
[14:37] <yoyogabgaba> ok
[14:38] <Guest73772> interesting
[14:39] <Guest73772> hello
[14:40] <HolyBuntu> Does anyone knows whats causing the kernel panic while trying to install ubuntu 14.04 x86?
[14:40] <k1l> HolyBuntu: do you have 64bit hardware?
[14:41] <HolyBuntu> indeed
[14:41] <k1l> so why dont you install 64bit then? (not helping the issue but that is a choice to be done before installing anyway). did you check the md5sum from the iso?
[14:42] <HolyBuntu> iso is fine, the reason i ask is because i installed it on another pc with a x64 and no issue..
[14:43] <cfhowlett> HolyBuntu that would suggest it's not a kernel issue - something specific to your hardware?
[14:43] <HolyBuntu> any idea what could it be?
[14:44] <k1l> could be anything. need way more details and error messages.
[14:44] <cfhowlett> HolyBuntu sorry, none.  but this is the second such query I've seen today.
[14:44] <ms7> Does the php5-fpm package replace the need for installing php or php5 packages?
[14:45] <HolyBuntu> im gonna download the x64 iso and try... i think that might be the problem.
[14:45] <actionparsnip> HolyBuntu: have you tested your RAM using Memtest86?
[14:45] <actionparsnip> HolyBuntu: be sure to MD5 test the ISO you download
[14:45] <ecod3> hello all. Can anyone help with this shit????? I cant solve it at all: Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:45] <ecod3>  xulrunner-1.9.2
[14:45] <HolyBuntu> yeah ram is fine i did installed 12.04 and again no issues
[14:46] <HolyBuntu> i installed*
[14:47] <ecod3> Can anyone help with this shit????? I cant solve it at all: Errors were encountered while processing: xulrunner-1.9.2
[14:48] <actionparsnip> ecod3: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a
[14:49] <ecod3> actionparsnip, Reading package lists... Done
[14:49] <ecod3> Building dependency tree
[14:49] <ecod3> Reading state information... Done
[14:49] <ecod3> Correcting dependencies... Done
[14:49] <ecod3> The following packages will be REMOVED
[14:49] <ecod3>   xulrunner-1.9.2
[14:49] <unopaste> ecod3 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:49] <ThKo> Hi people, one question: I’m running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS minimal 64 Bit on my V-Server. A GUI isn’t included. My question: Whether or not it is good for the server performance, but it is possible to install a GUI to connect via VNC to my server?
[14:50] <catalase> ThKo, no
[14:50] <actionparsnip> ThKo: what would you do using the GUI?
[14:50] <ThKo> catalase: Ok :-) Thanks
[14:50] <cfhowlett> ThKo ask #ubuntu-server
[14:51] <catalase> ThKo, that is if you are running ubuntu server
[14:51] <Mithrildar> Good afternoon folks
[14:51] <ThKo> actionparsnip: I’ve got a lot troubles with installing eclipse on it…Because of missing SWT and so on.
[14:51] <reisio> eclipse, ew :)
[14:51] <catalase> for some reason i keep getting 'usermod: no changes' when i try to change the home directory for a particular user
[14:52] <ThKo> reisio: Tell me a better way for: Ubuntu Server for compiling apk files… My way: Ubuntu Server, node.js, eclipse, cordova
[14:52] <reisio> ugh
[14:52] <ThKo> :D
[14:52] <reisio> probably to use a service
[14:52] <ThKo> That’s my problem :D
[14:52] <ThKo> It’s my bachelorthesis, I’ve to find an own way
[14:52] <reisio> oh, ew man :p
[14:52] <reisio> I'm pretty sure it's already been done, though
[14:53] <ThKo> I think so…But now I’ve to find a solution :D :D And as a Ubuntu / Server newby it’s very hard :D
[14:53] <Mithrildar> I'm afraid that I have a bit of a noob question. I'm mostly used to working with Ubuntu that's already adminstrated for me. I've just replaced Windows with Ubuntu 14.04 on my computer (what a relief) and I've follow the BasicSecurity guide on the Wiki: Enabled the firewall, added profiles to app-armor and secured firefox (with adblock, noscript and ghostery). Is there anything else I should do before I give Ubuntu my precious logi
[14:53] <Mithrildar> n details?
[14:53] <Mithrildar> Bah, didn't fit in one message :(
[14:53] <reisio> ThKo: I'd just look for obvious howtos online first
[14:54] <cfhowlett> Mithrildar I can send you a hardening guide if you like.
[14:54] <reisio> probably something geeks figured out way back when Android was new
[14:54] <Mithrildar> Sounds great cfhowlett
[14:54] <actionparsnip> Mithrildar: should be fine.
[14:54] <cfhowlett> Mithrildar sent but you must authorize it
[14:55] <Mithrildar> Ehh, do you happen to have a link to it? I'm not so keen on accepting pdf files from strangers ;)
[14:55] <ThKo> reisio: Yes I’m looking for it…Found some tutorials. But at the end I get an error because of SWT (graphical thing of eclipse) :D
[14:55] <cfhowlett> Mithrildar sorry.  no link.  my dropbox isn't getting past the great firewall these days
[14:56] <Mithrildar> Okay, thanks anyhow.
[14:57] <reisio> ThKo: what was the error?
[14:58] <apeoid> hello.  I am switching OS from Win8 to ubuntu.  currently I have ubuntu on a 3 tb hard drive.  I want to access another disk, this disk was used as a second windows drive and has data on it that I want to copy.  how mount?
[14:58] <kaktuz> hello?
[14:58] <Mithrildar> o/
[14:58] <cfhowlett> kaktuz ask your ubuntu questions
[14:58] <apeoid> there are 3 drives in the system, 2 windows and 1 ubuntu, but the main windows drive is unplugged because of a sata cable shortage
[15:00] <OerHeks> apeoid, if that drive is unencrypted, you would see an icon on your unity panel, click it and it is mounted
[15:00] <MannerMan2> deja-dup performs incremental backups after first run, right?
[15:01] <ThKo> reisio: Mom, I’ve resetted my server…haha ;-) The error was: „Exception in thread "main" org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: No more handles [gtk_init_check() failed]“
[15:01] <SuperHiggins> hello everyone, I was wondering if somebody could help me with a peculiar networking issue on my lubuntu machine? the lubuntu IRC redirected me here after we had exhausted all of their suggestions :S
[15:02] <reisio> SuperHiggins: not without an explanation of the issue
[15:02] <apeoid> OerHeks, thanks.  when I do that in the panel, nothing happens that I can see.  when I go to the Files browser and click "mount and open" on the drive, this is the error:  http://bpaste.net/show/431541/
[15:03] <apeoid> it asks me to mount the drive read only.  I'd like to do that, but how?
[15:04] <reisio> apeoid: mount -o remount,ro /foo
[15:04] <reisio> apeoid: but what for
[15:04] <apeoid> I have data I want to copy to the new hard drive
[15:05] <qballer> Hey guys does this information help ?
[15:05] <qballer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742265/
[15:05] <catalase> can you specify multiple locations for the authorized keys file for SSH
[15:05] <catalase> in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[15:05] <catalase> default is #AuthorizedKeysFile     %h/.ssh/authorized_keys
[15:05] <SuperHiggins> alright, well, i had just build a new custom machine, with a fx-6350 cpu, and a asus m5a97 mobo. I installed lubuntu 14.04 on the machine, and have been unable to connect to my internet. i've troubleshooted all the wiring in my connection, and the lubuntu community told me to change the kernel driver for my network adapter from r8169 to r8168, which i did successfully. according to all the troublesh
[15:05] <SuperHiggins> ooting that was done afterwords, there shouldn't be any issue behind why my internet doesnt work, yet the problem persists
[15:05] <catalase> but what if i want to put multiple locations
[15:06] <SuperHiggins> this is a wired ethernet connection by the way
[15:07] <catalase> SuperHiggins, does 'curl http://icanhazip.com' return anything?
[15:07] <SuperHiggins> curl isn't installed :S
[15:07] <catalase> SuperHiggins, 'ifconfig' --> nopaste
[15:08] <reisio> SuperHiggins: gotta be 'iggins
[15:08] <Jake> Hi there, is there a way to resize a Block device partition?
[15:09] <SuperHiggins> ifconfig returns two devices: eth0 and lo
[15:09] <SuperHiggins> it said curl wasn't installed when i ran the command? :S
[15:09] <catalase> sshd_config(5)'s AuthorizedKeysFile now accepts multiple paths, separated by whitespace. if anyone wanted to know the answer to my question--it was in the changelogs
[15:11] <reisio> SuperHiggins: heh
[15:11] <reisio> SuperHiggins: you can use wget -qO - instead of curl
[15:11] <saltmiser> Hello, I need the highest guru of X11
[15:11] <reisio> that is, wget -qO - http://icanhazip.com/
[15:11] <reisio> saltmiser: unlikely :p
[15:12] <saltmiser> Damnit!
[15:12] <saltmiser> Where do I find them
[15:12] <SuperHiggins> um i ran that and it returned nothing
[15:12] <reisio> SuperHiggins: then you've answered his question
[15:13] <reisio> SuperHiggins: this is the point where you tell _him_
[15:13] <apeoid> I used the Disks utility and added ,ro to the end of the mount options.  thanks for looking at the problem, it did help
[15:14] <Mithrildar> So I know that anti-virus isn't required on Ubuntu, but as I'm on a network with Windows pcs and I'm sharing files with Windows pcs I'd like one. What's the recommended software?
[15:14] <reisio> Mithrildar: clamav
[15:14] <cfhowlett> !antivirus|Mithrildar
[15:15] <SuperHiggins> catalase: sorry :S um curl isnt installed, but 'wget -q0 - http://icanhazip.com' doesn't return anything
[15:15] <catalase> ifconfig and see what is there
[15:16] <SuperHiggins> i'm getting two devices: eth0 and lo... do you need any specific information?
[15:16] <catalase> put it in nopaste
[15:16] <Mithrildar> Yeah I read that page, ubottu, thanks. Most of the links on that page dont work anymore, so I figured it was outdated info
[15:16] <reisio> Mithrildar: clamav is _the_ Unixland AV
[15:16] <Mithrildar> Okay, thanks :)
[15:16] <reisio> in the open source world there are rarely many competitors for obvious best choice in any particular realm
[15:17] <reisio> people just all get behind one project, and it becomes wonderful
[15:17] <jhutchins> Mithrildar: Unfortunately, clamav isn't worth the bits it's written in.
[15:17] <reisio> clamav is great
[15:17] <reisio> I use it to clean up Windows boxes all the time
[15:17] <jhutchins> Mithrildar: It will allow detected viruses to destroy your windows systems.
[15:18] <reisio> it will allow... detected?
[15:18] <jhutchins> Mithrildar: AVG has a pretty decent linux version, and it's free for personal use.
[15:18] <reisio> make sense
[15:18] <jhutchins> reisio: Yeah, I don't know what the deal is, whether it just didn't know how to deal with the infection or is just plain not worth the time to run it.
[15:19] <SuperHiggins> catalase: http://nopaste.info/2df09b290b.html
[15:19] <jhutchins> reisio: Happily reported the virus that wiped out all of the user profiles.
[15:19] <reisio> jhutchins: sounds like you're expecting it to substitute in a human brain
[15:19] <reisio> if it detected it, you should have removed it or something
[15:19] <jhutchins> reisio: Take a look at the ratings in public reviews.
[15:19] <reisio> already have
[15:20] <reisio> you just said it found what you are complaining about, which makes no sense
[15:20] <jhutchins> reisio: Not if you think clam is worth anything.
[15:20] <reisio> if it found it, it did its job
[15:20] <cfhowlett> if it nuked user profiles, it's not worth using ...
[15:20] <reisio> he said some badware did that
[15:20] <reisio> not clamav
[15:20] <reisio> the badware that clamav _found_
[15:20] <reisio> sounds like pebkac to me
[15:21] <cfhowlett> reisio ahhh ... got it.  thanks.
[15:21]  * reisio shrugs
[15:21] <jhutchins> On the other hand, AVG will find and quarantine or remove malware.
[15:21] <reisio> avg will behave like avg does, and clamav will behave like an ordinary Unix utility
[15:21] <reisio> unless you configure it to behave like avg :p
[15:22] <reisio> which would probably be annoying, given how many false positives _any_ AV package produces
[15:22] <reisio> but, whatever floats your boat
[15:22] <reisio> just a courtesy really anyways, any win32 box you're copying files to should have their own AV in place
[15:23] <catalase> SuperHiggins, kind of odd there. the machine sees the mac address for the device, but you have no connection
[15:24] <SuperHiggins> catalase: is there any more information i can provide?
[15:24] <saltmiser> anybody here have experience with touch screens?
[15:24] <reisio> saltmiser: many people
[15:24] <saltmiser> great!
[15:24] <reisio> super great :p
[15:24] <Jake> anyone know how to resize a partition that's encrypted during ubuntu installation?
[15:24] <saltmiser> Basic question then.  Assuming a touch screen emulates a mouse by default (since it is USB-HID complaint etc.), when one presses-and-holds on a touch screen...is there one button press? Or rapid button pressing?
[15:25] <saltmiser> Since my touch screen is rapid button pressing and it renders everything useless.
[15:25] <catalase> SuperHiggins, try 'ifup eth0 up'
[15:25] <catalase> errr
[15:25] <catalase> 'ifup eth0'
[15:25] <reisio> Jake: resize larger?
[15:25] <catalase> or 'ifconfig eth0 up'
[15:25] <reisio> saltmiser: rapid button pressing?
[15:25] <saltmiser> Yes
[15:25] <Jake> reisio, smaller, I only need 300GB on ubuntu and 700GB on another OS
[15:25] <catalase> then 'ifconfig' and see what it returns
[15:26] <reisio> Jake: which partition is it?
[15:26] <Jake> /dev/sda3
[15:26] <saltmiser> reisio, imagine that pressing-and-holding on the touch screen is equivilant to rapidly clicking on the mouse...this is the behavior my touch screen exhibits
[15:26] <reisio> Jake: which mount point
[15:26] <Mithrildar> Yikes, I just installed Ubuntu and ClamAV already found something in Firefox, pua.html.exploit.cve_2014_0322/ and pua.script.packed-1
[15:26] <raili> how i can install java plugin? /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so is the directory change in firefox 30?
[15:26] <SuperHiggins> catalase: when i ran 'ifup eth0 up', i got two errors: 'Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0', and 'Ignoring unknown interface up=up'
[15:26] <reisio> saltmiser: so it does what you expect, just too fast?
[15:26] <saltmiser> raili, ~/.mozilla/plugins
[15:26] <Jake> /dev/ubuntu-vg/root
[15:26] <kyan> Does Ubuntu support disabling hardware graphics compositing for the operating system? (There's something wrong with the graphics card that makes it crash when using hardware compositing)
[15:26] <actionparsnip> raili: webupd8 has a ppa you can install and it will set up java for you
[15:26] <saltmiser> reisio, I expected a single button press...what does the industry expect?
[15:26] <catalase> SuperHiggins, yes. read below what i wrote
[15:27] <SuperHiggins> as for ifconfig eth0 up, it returned nothing
[15:27] <catalase> now see what ifconfig returns
[15:27] <actionparsnip> kyan: just install a non-compoziting WM like openbox or mutter
[15:27] <raili> saltmiser, i have also in that path my symbolic link
[15:27] <reisio> saltmiser: pressing and holding? Is usually equivalent to right-mouse IMO
[15:27] <reisio> IME*
[15:27] <catalase> SuperHiggins, still no inet addr, bcast, mask?
[15:27] <saltmiser> reisio, left mouse, right mouse..but still just ONE CLICK per ONE PRESS.  One-to-one, you know?
[15:27] <reisio> kyan: yes, it's actually supposed to do it automatically, IIRC
[15:27] <saltmiser> reisio, I'm getting one-to-many
[15:28] <SuperHiggins> catalase: yeah the information seems to be the same
[15:28] <Jake> @reisio /dev/ubuntu-vg/root I think?
[15:28] <saltmiser> reisio, I'm debating calling the manufacturer of our touch screen to chew them out, however this is the only touch screen I've ever used on linux...besides my android phone of course
[15:28] <reisio> saltmiser: so you're getting multiple clicks?
[15:28] <reisio> Jake: k
[15:28] <saltmiser> reisio, I get an endless stream of clicks for as long as I hold
[15:28] <reisio> Jake: you probably need to resize the lv, then resize the partition with g/parted
[15:29] <reisio> Jake: do a search for 'how to shrink lvm partition' or the like, it's involved
[15:29] <reisio> saltmiser: k, what's the screen/device?
[15:29] <Jake> I'll try that now reisio
[15:29] <reisio> Android is not GNU/Linux, but I know what you mean
[15:30] <reisio> Jake: resizing an lv should be 100% safe, but resizing a partition isn't 100% safe (more like 90%?), FYI backup if it's real important
[15:30] <saltmiser> reisio, lsusb tells me it is a "Bus 002 Device 010: ID 1aad:000f KeeTouch"
[15:30] <reisio> saltmiser: not part of a laptop, then?
[15:30] <saltmiser> xinput tells me it is an "L&TTouch"
[15:30] <saltmiser> reisio, no this is some $10k custom outdoor kiosk they bought
[15:30] <Jake> reisio, All of my core documents are on dropbox and my irreplacable media on an external disk, thank you
[15:30] <reisio> saltmiser: neat
[15:31] <reisio> Jake: :)
[15:31] <saltmiser> reisio, it is pretty neat...except for the part where we've had nothing but trouble with the touch screen
[15:31] <reisio> saltmiser: heh
[15:31] <saltmiser> windows 7 and 8 didn't really know what to make of it either
[15:31] <saltmiser> pressing and holding would activate all these strange gestures
[15:31] <saltmiser> installing linux allowed me to realize what the touch screen is actually doing, I think
[15:31] <saltmiser> rapidly clicking all the time
[15:32] <saltmiser> instead of just one click and hold -- which is what you would expect, right?
[15:32] <reisio> 's'possible
[15:32] <saltmiser> I made some noise in #xorg about this
[15:32] <reisio> clicking & holding is normally equivalent to right mouse, as I said :)
[15:32] <saltmiser> yes, indeed, I agree
[15:32] <reisio> saltmiser: what Ubuntu version?
[15:32] <saltmiser> actually I'm using CentOS 6.5
[15:32] <saltmiser> lol
[15:33] <reisio> :p
[15:33] <saltmiser> this is an X11 issue not a Ubuntu issue
[15:33] <saltmiser> know what I mean?
[15:33] <reisio> mmm
[15:33] <reisio> you should try a less ancient distro, though
[15:33] <saltmiser> Perhaps
[15:33] <reisio> CentOS 6.5 is part of RHEL's stability model
[15:33] <saltmiser> I had Xubuntu on it not so long ago
[15:33] <reisio> all its software is quite old
[15:33] <reisio> it's for servers, not touch screens
[15:33] <jhutchins> saltmiser: I used to work with a lot of those for POS systems.
[15:33] <reisio> and Xubuntu did the same thing?
[15:34] <saltmiser> reisio, yes it did
[15:34] <jhutchins> saltmiser: Are you using the manufacturer's driver or one from Ubuntu?
[15:34] <thebishop> is gpu switching with vgaswitcheroo ever going to work smoothly?
[15:34] <saltmiser> jhutchins, manufacturer gives no driver since it's all "plug and play"
[15:34] <reisio> saltmiser: what version of xubuntu was it?
[15:34] <saltmiser> according to L&TTouch
[15:34] <saltmiser> 14.04
[15:34] <reisio> saltmiser: according to wha?
[15:34] <saltmiser> http://www.landttouch.com
[15:34] <nullsign> where do you get older packages for ubuntu?
[15:34] <saltmiser> is the company who made these things
[15:34] <saltmiser> it seems
[15:34] <nullsign> i need to find the debs for mysql* 5.5.-28 ?
[15:35] <nullsign> 5.5.28 /
[15:35] <saltmiser> jhutchins, so obviously, using the ubuntu driver :P
[15:35] <nullsign> the repos only seem to have the latest.
[15:35] <reisio> saltmiser: that a page for you?
[15:35] <jhutchins> saltmiser: Got an extra t in your url there...
[15:35] <saltmiser> jhutchins, I don't think I do actually
[15:36] <jhutchins> saltmiser: Hrm, domain is parked.
[15:36] <saltmiser> ah sorry
[15:36] <zartoosh> Hi how could I extract (read) post installation from a debian file? thx
[15:36] <saltmiser> hold on
[15:36] <reisio> zartoosh: do what?
[15:36] <OerHeks> nullsign, i cannot think of any reason you need that old insecure version
[15:37] <nullsign> because a server died that was using it.
[15:37] <zartoosh> reisio, I just want to inspect it.
[15:37] <nullsign> when i copied the db files off it; to the new host, it fails to start
[15:37] <saltmiser> jhutchins, answer one question for me
[15:37] <reisio> zartoosh: to inspect what? In what way
[15:37] <nullsign> i assume because of the differences between 5.5.28 > 5.5.37
[15:37] <jhutchins> saltmiser: e&t maybe?
[15:37] <saltmiser> jhutchins, in your experience with touch screens -- what happens when a user presses-and-holds on the screen in a fixed location
[15:37] <nullsign> so i have copied files from a mysql 5.5.28 that i can't make start.
[15:37] <saltmiser> jhutchins, yes E&T btw
[15:37] <saltmiser> not sure why I thought L&T
[15:37] <zartoosh> reisio,  I like to see its content.
[15:38] <reisio> saltmiser: you tried these? http://www.keetouch.com/download.aspx
[15:38] <reisio> zartoosh: ...what's content?
[15:38] <Mithrildar> Hmm managed to get CVE-2014-0322 within the 2 hours that I'm using ubuntu according to ClamAV, I think I should go back to Windows...
[15:38] <kyan> nullsign: old packages: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[15:38] <nullsign> thats kyan
[15:38] <nullsign> thanks/
[15:38] <zartoosh> reisio, there is a  script which I want to read
[15:38] <saltmiser> omg
[15:38] <reisio> ubottu: yes, well, that seems very relevant...
[15:38] <saltmiser> there's a driver for this?
[15:38] <SuperHiggins> catalase: sorry haha, i figured from my 11-hour escapade on the lubuntu irc that this was a strange and obscure issue...
[15:38] <reisio> zartoosh: so read it
[15:38] <kyan> nullsign: np, look in the "pool" subdirectory for the .deb files themselves
[15:38] <saltmiser> reisio, for some reason me googling "KEETOUCH" did not reveal that page
[15:38] <saltmiser> Google is broken :(
[15:38] <Mithrildar> It's going to be hard without anti-malwarebytes for a paranoid panda such as me
[15:39] <reisio> saltmiser: nor for me, I had to find their site and look the old fashioned win32 way
[15:39] <zartoosh> reisio, it is a deb file how to read it?
[15:39] <reisio> saltmiser: worth a shot
[15:39] <saltmiser> reisio, jhutchins I think the issue might be that I need to use that driver
[15:39] <saltmiser> certainly!
[15:39] <saltmiser> thank you!
[15:39] <reisio> zartoosh: deb2targz is one simple way
[15:39] <zartoosh> reisio, thank you
[15:40] <reisio> zartoosh: or 'alien', might be more available to Ubuntu
[15:40] <raili> i have writen my own java updater with bash and it was working long time. Im very sure /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ isn't used anymore?
[15:40] <reisio> zartoosh: I think 'dpkg' can do a lot of things with .deb's, too
[15:40] <kyan> actionparsnip, reisio: cool, thanks! :)
[15:41] <reisio> raili: why not use your distro's package manager
[15:41] <OerHeks> Mithrildar, joker CVE-2014-0322 does not apply to ubuntu > http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-0322.html
[15:41] <raili> reisio it can update the oracle java now?
[15:41]  * reisio headdesks
[15:42] <Mithrildar> Yeah I read that thanks, OerHeks
[15:42] <Mithrildar> I'm just a paranoid person
[15:42] <reisio> zartoosh: hah, read http://www.miketaylor.org.uk/tech/deb/#gsc.tab=0 (22nd October 2011)
[15:42] <Mithrildar> I've always been like that when using Windows
[15:43] <Mithrildar> I liked having anti-malwarebytes to tell me that my system was safe to use
[15:43] <nullsign> kyan: i dont see any x86_64 packages?
[15:43] <reisio> Mithrildar: anti-malwarebytes might tell you that, but it can't be sure :p
[15:43] <reisio> Mithrildar: if you want to be sure, use an integrity checker, like AIDE
[15:44] <nullsign> nvm..
[15:44] <Mithrildar> I know it can't be sure, but it made me feel less paranoid
[15:45] <adsc> hey guys, why is Ubuntu not in the app store?
[15:45] <kyan> nullsign: i think they're the ones ending in _ia64.deb
[15:45] <reisio> adsc: 'cause you already have it
[15:45] <kyan> no nvm that's itanium or something
[15:45] <adsc> have what?
[15:45] <reisio> adsc: ubuntu
[15:45] <kyan> nullsign: sorry i think it's _amd64.deb
[15:45] <nullsign> it is, you're right
[15:46] <Pici> adsc: What app store?
[15:46] <adsc> reisio: are you saying there is an Ubuntu hidden in my iPad?
[15:46] <SchrodingersScat> Mithrildar: I think there's software that hash-sums your system files and freaks out when it changes, and you can clamav, and source everything
[15:46] <Pici> adsc: Why would it be in the apple app store?
[15:46] <actionparsnip> adsc: how and why would ubuntu be in any ap store....?>
[15:46] <cfhowlett> adsc obviously, ubuntu is not in the apple app store.
[15:46] <adsc> i just think an Ubuntu would be the perfect iPad app
[15:47] <actionparsnip> adsc: ubuntu isnt an app, is a whole operating system
[15:47] <cfhowlett> adsc talk to Apple about that.
[15:47] <Mithrildar> SchrodingersCat, I think such software would only make me more paranoid whenever something changes
[15:47] <SchrodingersScat> adsc: there was that image that semi-worked for the nexus 7..
[15:47] <adsc> but there are many apps in the appstore that operate systems
[15:47] <Pici> adsc: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. Please stop wasting our time.
[15:47] <actionparsnip> adsc: no they are apps, they run on the ipad OS
[15:47] <cfhowlett> adsc again, you need to discuss this with APPLE -
[15:47] <Mithrildar> So how good is ClamAV's detection
[15:47] <actionparsnip> adsc: I suggest you research what an operating system actualy is
[15:47] <reisio> Mithrildar: never had a problem with it
[15:48] <OerHeks> adsc, send in a request https://www.apple.com/feedback/itunes.html
[15:48] <adsc> okay, thanks for the responses...but I don't see why apple should add Ubuntu as an app, it doesn't add other apps, app developers like the ubuntu developers do
[15:49] <cfhowlett> adsc moving on now ...
[15:49] <adsc> but I understand that it's offtopic, so I shut up now
[15:52] <adsc> another question, though, when I try to install Ubuntu on my iPad, I always get the error "Unknown executable format, blabla"
[15:52] <Mithrildar> I'm going into noob territory here, but I can let Ubuntu scan my Windows partition and vice versa, can't I?
[15:52] <cfhowlett> Mithrildar yes
[15:53] <adsc> is it even possible to get Ubuntu working as an iPad app?
[15:53] <cfhowlett> adsc no
[15:53] <adsc> oh
[15:53] <adsc> maybe i should have asked that first
[15:54] <adsc> what about the other way around, is it possible to get iOS working as an Ubuntu app?
[15:54] <cfhowlett> adsc no
[15:54] <Mithrildar> You could run an emulator
[15:54] <Mithrildar> Technically
[15:55] <Mithrildar> I don't see why you'd ever want that though (unless you are a developer)
[15:55] <adsc> isn't an emulator some chemical compound that is in foods?
[15:55] <cfhowlett> Mithrildar more like "theoretically" ... never heard of anyone actually pulling that off
[15:55] <cfhowlett> adsc you should probably take your questions to #apple
[15:55] <Mithrildar> Yes, Ubuntu needs food to run iOS apps
[15:56] <adsc> i have already been to #apple, but they have told me to ask here
[15:56] <jhutchins> adsc: Ubuntu isn't an ap, it's an operating system, as is osx.
[15:57] <cfhowlett> adsc apple doesn't run ubuntu.  ubuntu doesn't run apple.  period point blank.
[15:57] <adsc> what do you mean, everything is an app
[15:57] <apeoid> that's an emulsifier
[15:57] <jhutchins> adsc: You wouldn't run them on emulators, but you could run them as virtual machines.
[15:57] <bcvery> adsc, what is it you're trying to achieve?
[15:57] <apeoid> more properly, emulsification agent
[15:57] <adsc> so I need to get a virtual machine app?
[15:57] <apeoid> you're trying to emulsify iOS and linux
[15:57] <apeoid> you need an agent
[15:58] <apeoid> and a good blender
[15:58] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | apeoid
[15:58] <apeoid> I think you're being had, and I'm trying to be helpful.
[15:59] <Mithrildar> Anyhow, I think you folks have answered all my questions for now, thanks for all the help and have a good day!
[15:59] <kyan> adsc: An operating system is a computer program that allows you to run other apps. Apple's iOS and Canonical's Ubuntu are two such operating systems. They are designed to be run directly on the computer or tablet's hardware, without any other software helping them run. An emulator is an app that runs inside one operating system to allow another operating system to be run inside the emulator.
[15:59] <streulma> hello, my Asus fn keys does not work, how can I fix this in grub?
[15:59] <streulma> Asus R751L
[16:00] <adsc> kyan: hmmm, thanks, but that's too complicated for me, I think I'll stick with what I have
[16:00] <jhutchins> kyan: I don't think you have it quite right there.
[16:00] <reisio> streulma: probably missing kernel support
[16:00] <kyan> jhutchins: Oh well, at least I tried :P. Sorry adsc.
[16:00] <jhutchins> kyan: An emulator emulates the foreign operating system, allowing you to run foregn APPLICATIONS within the native operating system.
[16:01] <streulma> reisio: tried already 3.15.3 kernel
[16:01] <kyan> jhutchins: Oh, I guess I was thinking of a virtual machine
[16:01] <adsc> so I would need an ubuntu emulator app on my iPad to run Ubuntu software?
[16:01] <reisio> streulma: make sure the asus laptop stuff is builtin/loaded
[16:01] <reisio> adsc: iPhoos are heavily controlled by Apple, it will be quite a pain to put Ubuntu on one
[16:02] <reisio> adsc: plenty of tablets come with Ubuntu, however, check ubuntu.com
[16:02] <adsc> reisio: great, thanks, maybe I can exchange my iPad for one of those
[16:02] <streulma> reisio: another issue is that I have a dead pixel that shows up when started Asus laptop, then in Ubuntu it is away
[16:02] <kyan> jhutchins: So (just trying to get my understanding right) virtualization imitates the *hardware*, while emulation imitates the *software*?
[16:02] <malthe> why is there a games user
[16:03] <adsc> i'm not really happy with it either, because it doesn't run Outlook
[16:03] <reisio> adsc: probably for two, given how overpriced iPhoos are
[16:03] <streulma> the Asus laptop is just new
[16:03] <reisio> streulma: dead pixels are usually dead pixels forever, hence 'dead' and not 'temporarily broke'
[16:03] <cfhowlett> malthe ??? restate your question
[16:03] <reisio> malthe: user, or group?
[16:03] <malthe> why is there a user "games" on a ubuntu system.
[16:04] <streulma> reisio: also on new laptop since yesterday? bad :(
[16:04] <k1l> malthe: did you create one? or installed a game that did create it?
[16:04] <malthe> really I stumbled upon the "libuuid" user because it has a suid bit on /var/lib/libuuid
[16:04] <reisio> streulma: hrm?
[16:04] <malthe> and I didn't really get why
[16:04] <k1l> malthe: per default there is none
[16:04] <adsc> anyway, thanks everyone for the help, this is a really friendly channel
[16:04] <malthe> k1l, rly?
[16:04] <malthe> hmm let me check who installed it
[16:04] <malthe> (this is 12.04 btw)
[16:04] <adsc> you usually get kicked within seconds when you ask newbie questions
[16:04] <streulma> reisio: yes new since yesterday and the dead pixel came up. Not whitin warranty I think
[16:05] <reisio> streulma: I would think, return it
[16:05] <eeee> k1l: i have a games user too
[16:05] <eeee> k1l: I've not installed any games on the system though
[16:05] <malthe> k1l, games:x:5:60:games:/usr/games:/bin/sh
[16:05] <malthe> it was created as the fifth group
[16:05] <malthe> must have come with the system
[16:05] <streulma> resio: bad, they woudn't change...
[16:06] <reisio> streulma: hrmm?
[16:07] <streulma> yes
[16:07] <reisio> malthe: groups are not users
[16:07] <reisio> malthe: many users don't ever need to use games, hence a games group is useful
[16:07] <malthe> reisio, err sorry, I meant it's the fifth *user*.
[16:07] <reisio> k
[16:08] <malthe> is the idea maybe that you run a game and it changes user to "games" as a security measure?
[16:10] <systest> what mechanism manages the dhcp client in 14.04 server?  there's no network-manager, upsatart job that turned up with grep
[16:10] <k1l> malthe: you are right. there is a games user in the system.
[16:11] <jhutchins> I think that for some games you need to be a member of the games group.
[16:12] <Pici> It may be relevant for updating of shared highscore files.
[16:15] <k1l> the games user seems to be a linux standard user. not a ubuntu specific one. maybe there was/is a standard for linux games to be run by that user
[16:17] <mike_> Hi guys
[16:17] <Paddy_NI> Does anyone have any idea on how I can fix/change Firefox and Thunderbirds application font so that they fit in with the rest of the ubuntu desktop
[16:18] <Paddy_NI> I have no idea what update caused this problem
[16:18] <eric_nelson> Hey guys, I'm trying to install Spotify but I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742626/
[16:20] <Balzy> Hello! Anyone willing to help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2232672 ?
[16:20] <Gont> Yeah, Balzy
[16:20] <Gont> Don't buy ASUS laptops.
[16:20] <OerHeks> Balzy, better join #kubuntu
[16:21] <OerHeks> Gont, be helpfull
[16:21] <Gont> I'm sorry, just kidding.
[16:21] <_Nicco_> Question on what screen recorder to use. Preferably something that also records sound
[16:21] <Balzy> Gont I'll keep it in mind :D
[16:21] <Balzy> trying on #kubuntu
[16:21] <bcvery> _Nicco_, recordMyDesktop-gtk or Kazam
[16:23] <[diablo]> good afternoon #ubuntu ... I'm running a vmware fusion 6 Ubuntu guest. I have installed the add ons, but grub2 does not have the vmwgfx module at boot. How can I fix this please?
[16:23] <Jake> How can I make the root partition smaller when its encrypted?
[16:23] <[diablo]> it's only when I login that the module and screen resolution are correct
[16:23] <_Nicco_> thanks bcvery
[16:25] <trijntje> Jake: bad idea, I tried that once and it got corrupted
[16:27] <bcvery> eric_nelson, are you on 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu?  Can you pastebin the output from cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:27] <pds> trying to install open-vm-tools on ubuntu 12.04LTS desktop vm which is running on VMWare vsphere 5 Essentials. getting following errors http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=693a86e
[16:27] <bcvery> !pastebinit > eric_nelson
[16:28] <pds> !VMWare-tools > pds
[16:28] <pds> !open-vm-tools > pds
[16:29] <bcvery> !msgthebot | pds
[16:29] <compdoc> pds, Im no expert on vmware, but missing modules might mean the kernel was compiled without those options
[16:29] <compdoc> I use kvm
[16:30] <pds> compdoc any ideas how to fix this => pm me => gonna get some food
[16:30] <eric_nelson> bcvery, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742677/
[16:30] <eric_nelson> bcvery, I'm on 64bit
[16:31] <bcvery> eric_nelson, sorry, got to run, hopefully someone else will be able to help.  Best of luck
[16:31] <compdoc> sudo apt-get install open-vm-tools, or sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends open-vm-tools  ?
[16:35] <OerHeks> eric_nelson, delete line 114 - end , and check if you have spotify as ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list.d >>>  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:35] <jass> Hi all. I am looking for a encryption method that I should use for keeping my data really very secure?
[16:36] <jass> Will default encryption while installing be suffice?
[16:36] <eric_nelson> OerHeks, How to delete it?
[16:36] <OerHeks> eric_nelson, gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:41] <eric_nelson> OerHeks, when I try to install gedit I get the same error as with Spotify
[16:41] <eric_nelson> OerHeks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742626/
[16:41] <OerHeks> eric_nelson, what ubuntu are you using?
[16:42] <eric_nelson> OerHeks, 14.04 LTS 64x
[16:42] <OerHeks> odd, gedit should be installed standard
[16:43] <eric_nelson> I updated from 13
[16:43] <eric_nelson> maybe thats why
[16:53] <eric_nelson> OerHeks, now I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742809/
[17:03] <ponyofdeath> hi, anyone know what package creates the /usr/lib/jvm/default-java in ubuntu 14.04?
[17:04] <Pici> ponyofdeath: default-jre-headless
[17:05] <ponyofdeath> Pici: thanks!
[17:06] <f3lix> Is there a list somewhere that explains what patches Ubuntu apply to their kernels?
[17:06] <ponyofdeath> Pici: can i just mkdir that dir and symlink default-java to my /usr/local/jdk-version without needing that package?
[17:06] <tolecnal_> what, you don't love me anymore bb? or isn't over love exclusive anymore? :/
[17:06] <ponyofdeath> Pici: or does that package put other needed tools
[17:07] <Ferendevelop> f3lix: type 'uname -a' in terminal
[17:07] <Ferendevelop> f3lix: and re type 'apt-get changelog __KERNEL_VER__' (you change '__KERNEL_VER__' to real kernel version what say 'uname -a'
[17:08] <Moe> hey everyone
[17:08] <Pici> ponyofdeath: that package is just a pointer to the system java. It is extremely small and shouldn't pull in any other dependencies.
[17:08] <Ferendevelop> Moe: go ahead
[17:08] <f3lix> Ferendevelop: Thanks, but I mean as opposed to vanilla kernel.org sources? Or do you mean that as well?
[17:08] <Moe> I'd need to bother somebody with Debian packaging skills .. having issues with a package I uploaded to my PPA
[17:08] <ponyofdeath> Pici: shit i guess it pulled quite a bit of stuff for me
[17:09] <ponyofdeath> http://bpaste.net/show/E01tFZURsyIX1w2AH58h/
[17:09] <Ferendevelop> f3lix: sorry. i don't know that.
[17:09] <f3lix> Ferendevelop: I'm trying to create an SCST patched kernel, and it won't patch the Ubuntu sources, but the kernel.org sources patch just fine. Wondering what I might be missing if I just go with vanilla.
[17:09] <f3lix> Ferendevelop: Okay :) Thanks anyway
[17:10] <Ferendevelop> f3lix: hey. you say you want to patch SCST for ubuntu stock kernel?
[17:10] <Pici> ponyofdeath: sorry, somehow missed a line in the apt-cache display the 5 times I read it. You're right
[17:10] <f3lix> Ferendevelop: Yup, it used to work, but not with 3.11.0
[17:10] <Moe> https://launchpad.net/~mheiber/+archive/ppa/+packages > it's the 'cmst' package .. for some reason it doesn't pull in all the required dependencies when being installed
[17:12] <Pici> ponyofdeath: So, yes, you probably can just symlink /usr/lib/jvm/default-java to wherever your java's base dir is located.  On this system it symlinks to /usr/lib/jvm/default-java which has bin  docs  jre  man in it.
[17:12] <Ferendevelop> f3lix: type 'apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)' in console, patch scst and compile that
[17:12] <ponyofdeath> Pici: thanks!
[17:12] <f3lix> Think I'm just gonna go with vanilla 3.15.3 on my 13.04 ubuntu and see how that goes
[17:13] <f3lix> Ferendevelop: Well, that's what's not working :)
[17:13] <f3lix> SCST doesn't patch against the ubuntu patched kernel
[17:13] <Ferendevelop> f3lix: well. i need log
[17:13] <xangua> f3lix: 13.04 is no longer supported
[17:14]  * Ornacia .
[17:14] <f3lix> xangua: First of all, 13.04 is an LTS, so yes, and second of all, SCST supports sources all the way back to 2.6.x :)
[17:14] <Pici> f3lix: 13.04 was not an LTS release.
[17:15] <f3lix> really? sorry
[17:15] <Ferendevelop> 14.04 is LTS release.
[17:15] <Pici> and 12.04
[17:15] <f3lix> but still, scst supports the kernel, just not the ubuntu one
[17:15] <f3lix> oh yes, you're right, my apologies
[17:15] <qballer> Hey guys trying to resolve wifi issue all day
[17:16] <qballer> not working can some one help?
[17:16] <Ferendevelop> f3lix: hey why don't you download kernel in kernel.org and patch scst and patches in ubuntu stock kernel
[17:16] <f3lix> qballer: try explaining the issue, and the type of wifi card
[17:16] <Ferendevelop> qballer: say your wifi card or product name(if laptop)
[17:16] <knightshade> hi
[17:16] <Ferendevelop> qballer: and ubuntu version, linux kernel version(you can find command 'uname -a'
[17:16] <Ferendevelop> knightshade: hi
[17:17] <qballer> I have a dell vostro 3500 I've installed Kubuntu the wifi connects but no outgoing ping
[17:17] <eric_nelson> help! I got an error what does this error mean? E: GPG error: http://repository.spotify.com trusty InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?)
[17:17] <f3lix> Ferendevelop: That's exactly what I'm doing, and that's what lead me to my original question: What are the patches that Ubuntu apply to stock kernel? (because I don't know if they do something I really need) :)
[17:18] <Ferendevelop> f3lix: 'apt-get changelog __KERNEL_VER__' give no help for you?
[17:18] <Ferendevelop> qballer: kubuntu what?
[17:18] <Ferendevelop> qballer: hey search in google keyword for 'dell vostro 3500 ubuntu'
[17:19] <Ferendevelop> qballer: there are many solution
[17:19] <f3lix> nevermind :) have a great night, thanks for the input
[17:19] <qballer> Ferendevelop: yes i've done this
[17:19] <qballer> nothing helps
[17:19] <qballer> here is my data http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742914/
[17:19] <Ferendevelop> f3lix: sorry to not help
[17:19] <pavlos> qballer, give output of lspci -n (just the wireless card)
[17:20] <nith1210> f3lix: Have you grabbed the source for the package and looked at the quilt patch list?
[17:20] <pds> trying to install open-vm-tools on ubuntu 12.04LTS desktop vm which is running on VMWare vsphere 5 Essentials. erors at www.paste.ubuntu.com/7742911
[17:20] <pavlos> qballer, omit the -n
[17:20] <Ferendevelop> pavlos: vostro 3500 may DW1501 half wireless card
[17:20] <nith1210> f3lix: I withdraw my question, I'm looking at the source now and it's not how I recognize ubuntu pakages.
[17:21] <qballer> pavlos: 12:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[17:21] <pavlos> qballer, if wifi says it is connected, there may be an issue with the router
[17:21] <f3lix> nith1210: No idea what a quilt patch list is, how do I do that?
[17:21] <qballer> pavlos: other devices are connected fine
[17:21] <f3lix> nith1210: Oh, :D ;)
[17:22] <qballer> the router worked for this computer before kubuntu installation
[17:22] <histo> qballer: right now it appears to be disconnected
[17:22] <pavlos> qballer, so your laptop is NOT connected (since the router is fine and othr devices connect to it)
[17:23] <pavlos> qballer, in system settings do you have an app, additional drivers
[17:23] <qballer> no
[17:23] <qballer> It was dissconnected for a sec
[17:23] <qballer> trust me it connects but no ping
[17:24] <histo> qballer: what are you using to connect?
[17:24] <pavlos> qballer, http://linuxhalwa.blogspot.com/2013/11/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-driver.html
[17:24] <qballer> the kubuntu default
[17:25] <qballer> doing that
[17:26] <qballer> shodul i reboot pavlos
[17:26] <nith1210> f3lix: so debian/changelog gives you an overview (which is typical) normally the patches can be reversed using quilt but that's not the case here
[17:26] <qballer> should
[17:27] <histo> pavlos: that is installed on his system already
[17:27] <qballer> I'm getting an ip but i'm not connect
[17:27] <histo> qballer: were you messing with firewall or anything?
[17:27] <pavlos> qballer, which kubuntu relaease?
[17:27] <qballer> histo: no
[17:27] <f3lix> nith1210: I think I'm just gonna try for a while with the vanilla sources, if something comes up, I'll know. Luckily, this is just a home server ;) Thanks!
[17:27] <histo> qballer: can you ping your gateway even?
[17:27] <qballer> 14.04
[17:27] <nith1210> f3lix: depending on how bad you want it, you could read the source diff. The tar that apt-get source grabs with "orig" is what they got, the one with "diff" is there changes
[17:27] <qballer> histo: no
[17:27] <nith1210> f3lix: ok, best of luck.
[17:28] <histo> qballer: is dnsmasq installed?
[17:28] <nith1210> *their
[17:28] <nith1210> eek, I need coffee
[17:28] <f3lix> nith1210: Cool tip! Thank you! and Thank you ;)
[17:28] <qballer> histo: don't know what that is
[17:28] <qballer> pavlos: 14.04
[17:28] <histo> qballer: if you have a vostro why is it reporting as a inspiron?
[17:29] <qballer> histo: ~shrug~
[17:29] <pavlos> qballer, http://askubuntu.com/questions/457608/bcm4313-wireless-adapter-on-14-04
[17:29] <qballer> histo: the command works
[17:29] <apeoid> uhhh.  I'm trying to get netflix running on ubuntu so I am following this walk through:  http://itsfoss.com/netflix-ubuntu-1404-desktop-app/
[17:30] <apeoid> now the terminal has an EULA and at the end says <Ok> and I can't proceed
[17:30] <apeoid> I hit enter, Y enter, OK enter, space
[17:30] <xangua> apeoid: hit tab key
[17:30] <apeoid> whoa
[17:30] <apeoid> sweet thank you :>
[17:30] <nikitha> im using    ubuntu 14.4 -------> vbox 4.3.10  ------------> winxp                     how can improve my working experience, at present its simple and boring ... can some one  tell something exciting to do ..
[17:30] <qballer> pavlos: rebooting
[17:31] <apeoid> nikitha, you're bored with it?
[17:31] <Greedi> hello
[17:31] <pds> trying to install open-vm-tools on ubuntu 12.04LTS desktop vm which is running on VMWare vsphere 5 Essentials. erors at www.paste.ubuntu.com/7742911
[17:31] <apeoid> hi Greedi
[17:32] <histo> nikitha: what do you mean improve teh working experience?
[17:32] <apeoid> Oops! Google Chrome could not find www.paste.ubuntu.com
[17:33] <apeoid> oh I see it http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742911/
[17:33] <pds> try again http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742911/
[17:34] <qballer> pavlos: no good
[17:35] <histo> qballer: have you asked on the forums or askubuntu?
[17:36] <pavlos> qballer, I dont have kubuntu, I would check the logs (dmesg) to see what is going on with the wifi card)
[17:36] <catalase> Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' when I try to apt-get install
[17:36] <catalase> but my internet connection is fine
[17:36] <catalase> what gives
[17:37] <qballer> is this room logged ?
[17:37] <Aaruni> qballer: yes
[17:37] <pavlos> qballer, yes
[17:37] <bazhang> !1984 | qballer
[17:37] <qballer> 10x
[17:37] <bazhang> catalase, what version of ubuntu
[17:37] <apeoid> nice command
[17:38] <catalase> 14.04 lts server
[17:38] <Aaruni> catalase: can you ping us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[17:38] <catalase> Aaruni, every time i try to ping something, i get host unknown
[17:38] <catalase> 'ping: unknown host'
[17:38] <Aaruni> catalase: then there is something wrong with the connectivity, probably at the host end
[17:38] <qballer> which file http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/06/10/?
[17:39] <catalase> Aaruni, but it worked fine earlier today
[17:39] <Aaruni> nope, I can ping it just fine. catalase something wrong with your connection
[17:39] <apeoid> got this error:  "Wine could not find a Mono package which is needed for .NET applications to work correctly.  Wine can automatically download and install it for you.  > Note: it is recommended to use your distribution's packages instead."  Should I let it dl and install the Mono package or install it myself first?
[17:39] <histo> qballer: what are you looking for?
[17:39] <bazhang> qballer, #ubuntu -text or html, both are there
[17:39] <catalase> Aaruni, i can't ping anything. it always gives unknown host
[17:39] <Aaruni> catalase: if you can't ping anything, then how does the internet work ?
[17:40] <pavlos> catalase, can you connect wired and ping something?
[17:40] <mibofra> hi guys, a question. Ubuntu 14.04, I need the snd-bt-sco module, but there isn't it in the kernel anymore, (maybe) is there any package provide this module?
[17:40] <tarvid> ubuntu 14.04 DVD on VirtualBox sits at the splash screen, is this the wrong image?
[17:40] <nith1210> apeoid: sudo apt-get install wine-mono
[17:40] <histo> tarvid: press escape key
[17:40] <catalase> pavlos: i am
[17:41] <catalase> i did setup a static IP address internally, but perhaps the gateway is wrong
[17:41] <catalase> what exactly should that be set to
[17:41] <tarvid> histo thanks, act like the keyboard is not connected to the running image
[17:41] <apeoid> nith1210, thank you
[17:41] <pavlos> catalase, so, you are wired and cannot ping? routing is wrong or gateway
[17:41] <nith1210> apeoid: np :)
[17:42] <pavlos> catalase, route -n
[17:42] <igino> ciao
[17:42] <catalase> pavlos: http://nopaste.info/bec5f64044.html
[17:43] <histo> tarvid: yeah i've seen that on VMs
[17:43] <catalase> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[17:43] <tarvid> I'll try a different keyboard and mouse and be back later
[17:43] <catalase> under static IP address assignment
[17:44] <pavlos> catalase, the metric on line 04 should be 1
[17:44] <catalase> i put gateway as <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:44] <catalase> pavlos: how can i edit that
[17:44] <histo> catalase: is that your actual gateway?
[17:44] <catalase> histo: what exactly is a gateway lol
[17:44] <catalase> that address is what i use to administer the router
[17:45] <histo> k
[17:45] <histo> catalase: the gateway should be set to your routers ip
[17:45] <catalase> ok it is
[17:45] <histo> catalase: how did you "setup a static ip" ?
[17:45] <catalase> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[17:45] <catalase> static ip address assignment
[17:45] <histo> catalase: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[17:45] <pavlos> catalase, I dont know how you defined your static address. Can you try DHCP  and let it figure out the routing?
[17:46] <mibofra> ok... see you guys :D (I think you're a bit busy at the moment :)) ) .
[17:46] <catalase> ./etc/network/interfaces
[17:46] <histo> catalase: yeah can you pastebin that file please
[17:46] <catalase> http://nopaste.info/f7a0575100.html
[17:47] <histo> catalase: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:47] <catalase> pavlos, histo ^ there is my /etc/network/interfaces
[17:47] <qballer> looked up an answer I got from you pavlos a while back. didn't work now
[17:48] <catalase> 0.066 ms
[17:48] <histo> catalase: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:48] <catalase> seems to be working fine
[17:48] <catalase> 0% packet loss
[17:48] <catalase> works fine histo
[17:48] <zeretiuz> ll
[17:48] <histo> catalase: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:48] <catalase> works
[17:48] <histo> catalase: what is the problem then?
[17:48] <catalase> i think it is a DNS related issue
[17:48] <catalase> but not entirely sure
[17:49] <catalase> cannot ping google.com
[17:49] <histo> catalase: yeah dns related
[17:49] <catalase> unknown host
[17:49] <catalase> so how do i fix this
[17:49] <histo> catalase: what's in your /etc/resolv.conf ?
[17:49] <nith1210> catalase: comment out line 9 of your interfaces file; you don't want "auto" and "iface" lines for the same interface
[17:49] <SuperBawlz> I need to remove my postfix and dovecot install so I can start fresh. I followed a bad guide. If any has a current guide for setting up a mail server it would be appreciated.
[17:50] <qballer> i can ping my wateway
[17:50] <qballer> can't ping out
[17:50] <histo> nith1210: what?
[17:50] <SuperBawlz> Not sure how to clean this up
[17:50] <histo> qballer: you have a dns issue then also
[17:50] <histo> catalase: don't comment that out
[17:50] <catalase> histo: # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[17:50] <catalase> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[17:50] <qballer> histo but i'm trying to pin <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:51] <qballer> ping*
[17:51] <histo> qballer: if you can ping your gateway something else is going on with your routing then if you can't get out beyond that.
[17:51] <catalase> histo, basically empty file
[17:51] <nith1210> catalase: sorry, I misready the man page, histo's right, ignore me.
[17:51] <nith1210> *misread
[17:51] <ry_> [18:49] <ry_> hello guys just install ZorinOS 8
[17:51] <nikitha> can i dock task windows of gnome classic ? im using ubuntu 14.04 with gnome classic , having bar at top and bottom..is there any docking possible
[17:52] <ry_> [18:50] <ry_> I've got a .tar.gz file
[17:52] <ry_> [18:50] <ry_> Ineed help to install it
[17:52] <ikonia> ry_: zorin is not supported here
[17:52] <ikonia> ry_: there is a zorinos support channel
[17:52] <histo> catalase: on line 14 put dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:52] <ry_> ikonia: Right ok
[17:52] <histo> catalase: in your /etc/network/interfaces file
[17:53] <histo> qballer: This whole time you've been able to ping your routers ip?
[17:53] <catalase> histo, do i need to reboot? lol
[17:53] <daftykins> histo: do you not mean <IP_ADDRESS> for the latter or does Google have 3 now? :)
[17:54] <histo> catalase: sudo restart networking
[17:54] <catalase> restart: job failed to restart
[17:54] <catalase> lol
[17:54] <qballer_> histo: any clue?
[17:54] <histo> catalase: oh sorry <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>  not 6.6
[17:54] <histo> catalase: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:54] <eeeeeeeee> catalase: sudo service network-manager restart
[17:54] <histo> eeeeeeeee: he's not using network manager
[17:54] <eeeeeeeee> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:55] <qballer_> pavlos: ?
[17:55] <pavlos> qballer, can you check dmesg for any errors on with wireless ?
[17:55] <histo> catalase: any luck with /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[17:55] <pavlos> omit with
[17:56] <histo> qballer: you can ping the ip of your router?
[17:56] <catalase> WOO
[17:56] <catalase> histo, thank you histo
[17:56] <histo> catalase: np
[17:56] <catalase> it works
[17:57] <histo> catalase: if you setup networking manually you need to specify nameservers in the future ;)
[17:57] <qballer> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7743065/
[17:57] <catalase> silly that dns that DNS line isnt included in the network configuration text
[17:57] <histo> qballer: Can you ping your router's ip?
[17:57] <qballer> histo: yes
[17:57] <catalase> oh, it is there, i just didnt read the whole thing
[17:58] <histo> catalase: also you are using the 10.04 server guide aren't you running something newer?
[17:58] <pavlos> qballer, narrow the list with dmesg | grep wlan
[17:58] <histo> pavlos: his wifi is fine
[17:58] <catalase> 14.04 server lts
[17:58] <histo> pavlos: it's a routing table issue or something he claims he can ping the router
[17:58] <pavlos> histo, ok
[17:59] <histo> catalase: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/
[17:59] <qballer> pavlos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7743073/
[17:59] <catalase> thx histo
[17:59] <pavlos> qballer, as histo said, your wifi is ok
[18:01] <shimoda> hi :-) i tried to install vlc 2.2, now i removed it and i'd like to install the normal vlc. apt says that there are vlc 2.2 dependences installed... how can i remove them?
[18:01] <qballer> ok so why no routing out pavlos ?
[18:01] <ikonia> shimoda: did you do this from a PPA ?
[18:01] <shimoda> yes ikonia
[18:01] <qballer> pavlos: ping -I wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS> does destination unreachable
[18:02] <pavlos> qbacan you ping your router (ping <IP_ADDRESS>)?
[18:02] <pavlos> qballer,  you ping your router (ping <IP_ADDRESS>)?
[18:02] <qballer> pavlos: <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:02] <pavlos> ok
[18:03] <qballer> and my girlfriend is surfing the router to the outside world with no care in the world
[18:03] <shimoda> i thought that apt-get autoremove is used for that... to remove dependences no longer needed.. but it does nothing
[18:03] <pavlos> qballer, off topic
[18:03] <qballer> pavlos: yea
[18:04] <ikonia> shimoda: it's probably not un-needed, it's probably upgraded depdencies, rather than added new ones that are no longer needed
[18:04] <frecel> popey: are you getting text message notifications? I just got a call with complaints about not responding to text messages that I  newer knew i got
[18:04] <popey> frecel: hmm, dunno, send me a text ☻
[18:04] <frecel> popey: they show up in the messaging app just never got the notification
[18:04] <popey> frecel: oh, yes, i see a blue one now
[18:05] <popey> frecel: which image number you on?
[18:05] <sugoruyo> hello folks, was wondering if anynone's ever set up ubuntu 14.04 as a dual boot with Win8.1, the catch is I need the linux partitions to be encrypted
[18:05] <qballer> pavlos: just for the sake of reason i tried to ping a sever at work
[18:05] <frecel> popey: 111
[18:06] <popey> frecel: ah, my main one is #106
[18:06] <popey> frecel: got that on my #106 one
[18:06] <popey> frecel: replied
[18:07] <frecel> popey: got the notification
[18:07] <frecel> popey: that being said I updated the image after I got those messages
[18:08] <pavlos> qballer, post output of 'ip route list'
[18:08] <popey> frecel: sorry about that.
[18:09] <qballer> pavlos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7743125/
[18:09] <qballer> the second is my cell phone
[18:09] <frecel> popey: It was just from work, not important :D
[18:09] <popey> ☻
[18:11] <histo> qballer: traceroute <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:11] <christian1262> Hi
[18:11] <christian1262> I'm new
[18:12] <qballer> just did  sudo traceroute -i wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS> it return only **** pavlos
[18:12] <qballer> pavlos: regular tracroute work via the cell phone interface
[18:12] <christian1262> I like ubuntu (nobody could guess that!)
[18:12] <histo> qballer: add a -4
[18:12] <pavlos> qballer, can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:13] <blurkis> some one who knows why gnome music in 14.04 finds no music, when for example clementine does?
[18:13] <qballer> histo -4?
[18:13] <christian1262> Well im obviously not as advanced as you
[18:13] <histo> qballer: traceroute -4 -i wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:14] <qballer> pavlos: ping -I wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS> works
[18:14] <qballer> histo: still stars
[18:15] <histo> qballer: what do you mean stars?
[18:15] <schubonline> hello
[18:16] <jnainggolan> hello
[18:16] <qballer> this is one line among 30 "18  * * *" it repeats in the i * * * pattern
[18:16] <qballer> this is one line among 30 "18  * * *"
[18:16] <qballer> histo: get it?
[18:17] <histo> qballer: yeah is there anything at the top of all the *'s?
[18:17] <qballer> traceroute to <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets --- only this histo
[18:18] <qballer> If this is so annoying to me you are probably annoyed as well.
[18:20] <histo> qballer: Yeah i'm reading some things now
[18:20] <sugoruyo> anyone have any advice on installing ubuntu with encryption alongside windows?
[18:21] <qballer> histo thanks anyways i'm here if you have idea
[18:23] <histo> qballer: What kidn of router is it?
[18:24] <qballer> dlink
[18:24] <histo> qballer: sudo dhclient -r
[18:24] <histo> qballer: then sudo dhclient wlan0
[18:24] <qballer> TP-link histo
[18:25] <qballer> nothing, wouldn't budge histo
[18:25] <histo> qballer: what is your ip address now?  ip addr
[18:25] <SuperBawlz> How do I completely remove a package from my system?
[18:26] <histo> SuperBawlz: apt-get purge packagename
[18:26] <SuperBawlz> Need to start fresh on an install
[18:26] <SuperBawlz> kk
[18:26] <qballer> histo:  same is before <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:26] <SuperBawlz> Thanks
[18:26] <histo> qballer: no your wlan0 ip
[18:26] <qballer> but?
[18:26] <histo> qballer: that's not the same why is it 192.168.201....???
[18:27] <qballer> sorry 0.103
[18:27] <histo> qballer: I thought it was .111 before
[18:27] <qballer> histo: nope but the 3d class was 0 not 201
[18:28] <histo> qballer: what is the output of route     now
[18:28] <eeeeeeeee> is there any harm in using pkexec (from accounts that aren't sudoers)
[18:29] <qballer> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7743225/
[18:31] <histo> qballer: can you configure your router from this machine?  open a browser and go to <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:31] <qballer> YEA
[18:31] <pavlos> qballer, the default routing is via your usb (.42) so your your wlan cannot see that
[18:32] <qballer> but when the other network is disconnected it still can't ping outside
[18:32] <histo> qballer: wait is your phone connected to your routers wifi?
[18:32] <pavlos> qballer, if you can change the mask to your wlan to <IP_ADDRESS> you should be ok
[18:32] <qballer> pavlos: how?
[18:33] <histo> qballer: unplug the phone and try to ping <IP_ADDRESS>  and configure your router via webpage see if it still comes up
[18:33] <histo> qballer: don't need to change your mask
[18:33] <pavlos> qballer, man ip (there is an ip route change)
[18:34] <eggdrop_master> hi, im looking for help, i just got back a ssd. Ubuntu 12.04 was install with win 7 on dualboot. I just bought a new computer format ssd on NTFS to erase WIn7 and Ubuntu.. i actually get a grub rescue, when i check the ssd on a live cd i only ahve a NTFS partition, i cannot boot on win8.1 cd just get a grub rescue
[18:35] <eggdrop_master> sorry for my poor english*
[18:35] <histo> eggdrop_master: set the computer to boot to the cd and not the hard drive
[18:36] <histo> qballer: any luck?
[18:36] <eggdrop_master> histo i precise via the bios to boot on cd but brub rescue come again
[18:36] <TBotNik> all: can not install, keep getting error "dpkg status database is locked by another process", but no process show in system monitor of using ps  -A,  What is holding this?
[18:36] <histo> eggdrop_master: well it's not booting from cd if you are seeing the grub rescue screen.
[18:37] <histo> eggdrop_master: how did you format the drive if you can't boot to a cd?
[18:38] <eggdrop_master> histo, i did it on another ubuntu computer, from gparted with the ssd plugged on a usb-->sata cable
[18:38] <bprompt> TBotNik:    I'm thinking you use apt-get previously, maybe through synaptic, and the "sudo" holding period is about 5mins IIRc
[18:38] <histo> eggdrop_master: yeah grub is still loaded on the first sector of the disk that's why you are seeing that.
[18:38] <TBotNik> No just rebooted and still getting this!
[18:38] <histo> eggdrop_master: and the compuer can't boot off of cd
[18:38] <eggdrop_master> exactly
[18:39] <bprompt> TBotNik:     what about if you do a "sudo apt-get check" ?
[18:39] <TBotNik> bprompt: No just rebooted and still getting this!
[18:40] <TBotNik> bprompt: apt-get check gives: "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[18:40] <TBotNik> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[18:40] <konrad> hey there! what is a good channel to ask questions about alsa midi connections with (or without) jackd?
[18:40] <eggdrop_master> histo, how can i remove this sector with grub ?
[18:40] <histo> TBotNik: lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[18:41] <histo> eggdrop_master: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/of/your/ssd bs=1 count=512
[18:41] <jpentland> Anyone know how I can debug udev dying on boot? /var/log/udev doesn't show anything
[18:41] <TBotNik> histo: Thnx!
[18:41] <histo> TBotNik: what is using it?
[18:42] <multihunter> hi
[18:42] <eggdrop_master> histo, where should i type this command please ?
[18:43] <multihunter> I'm going to make backups of my ubuntu vps. Except these dirs what should I include? /home /root /etc /usr
[18:43] <multihunter> (dont have enough backup space to backup the whole system)
[18:43] <subz3r0> ./var
[18:44] <multihunter> whole /var or just /var/log ?
[18:44] <subz3r0> depends on what youre using
[18:44] <subz3r0> mail spool for mta etc..
[18:45] <multihunter> so its almost the whole system :)
[18:45] <multihunter> just excludes /lib which is 600mb
[18:46] <histo> eggdrop_master: first find the dev of your ssd in the ubuntu machine you used to format it
[18:46] <TBotNik> bprompt, histo: Thnx for lock problem. Trying to install Teamviewer. Now get errors: "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of teamviewer: teamviewer depends on libc6-i386 (>= 2.7); however: Package libc6-i386 is not installed. teamviewer depends on lib32asound2; however: Package lib32asound2 is not installed. teamviewer depends on lib32z1; however: Package lib32z1 is not installed. teamviewer depends on ia32-libs; however: Package ia32-libs is
[18:46] <TBotNik> not installed. dpkg: error processing teamviewer (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing:
[18:46] <TBotNik> teamviewer"
[18:46] <checoimg> Guys how do I make a permanent change to the Bash prompt ?
[18:46] <histo> eggdrop_master: then substitute that and type it in a terminal
[18:46] <Janusz> Hello. I'm installing Ubuntu Server inside Oracle VM, and after choosing to enrypt all HDD with LVM, installation "paused" - i can write in command promnt, but nothing happens.
[18:47] <eggdrop_master> the only terminal i can get is from a live cd, is that correct ?
[18:47] <histo> TBotNik: which deb did you download from teamviewer?
[18:47] <checoimg> How can I make a permanent change to the Bash prompt ?
[18:47] <checoimg> How can I make a permanent changes to the Bash prompt ?
[18:47] <histo> checoimg: your PS1?
[18:48] <checoimg> Ok, got it, I just "echo" it
[18:48] <histo> TBotNik: use the other one
[18:48] <checoimg> echo $PS1
[18:48] <histo> checoimg: what are you trying to change?
[18:48] <checoimg> everything...
[18:48] <histo> checoimg: well can you provide an example of one thing?
[18:49] <TBotNik> bprompt, histo: Used apt-get install on the missing libs and then get error: "use apt-get -f install" with no options.  Running that now!
[18:49] <checoimg> I provided the example : "Permanent change to the Bash prompt"
[18:49] <histo> TBotNik: why?
[18:49] <histo> ughh
[18:49] <histo> TBotNik: just use the other deb on their site and it will work
[18:49] <histo> checoimg: okay well then good luck
[18:49] <checoimg> I provided the example : "Permanent change to the Bash prompt" histo
[18:50] <histo> checoimg: you put the changes in your .bashrc
[18:50] <TBotNik> histo: Have already tried 9 files and all get same dependency errors.
[18:50] <histo> TBotNik: There are two different debs on the teamviewer diste
[18:50] <histo> not 9
[18:50] <TBotNik> histo: The apt-get -f install is fixing over 50 libs
[18:50] <checoimg> histo /etc/bash.bashrc   ?
[18:51] <checoimg> ~/bash.bashrc   ? surely
[18:51] <histo> TBotNik: okay, you could just install the proper package from them and avoid all this multiarch stuff
[18:51] <TBotNik> histo: More distros than 2 sir!  I have all for 7,8 and 9
[18:51] <histo> checoimg: ~/.bashrc
[18:52] <histo> TBotNik: Who mentioned distros?
[18:53] <TBotNik> histo: No been hammering on TV install on 3 machines for 2.5 days and TV HOWTO does not even show that you must install WINE, so HOWTO is way way short of an install
[18:53] <histo> TBotNik: uname -a
[18:53] <histo> TBotNik: you don't have to install wine
[18:53] <checoimg> looks like I have to log off...
[18:54] <histo> TBotNik: http://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_linux.deb
[18:55] <histo> checoimg: source .bashrc
[18:55] <eggdrop_master> histo, dd command done, 512b copied
[18:55] <histo> eggdrop_master: k it's gone now
[18:55] <TBotNik> histo: OK after the "apt-get -f install" the V9 .deb file still errors, but V8 went in fine.
[18:55] <eggdrop_master> ok lets test thx a lot
[18:56] <TBotNik> histo: Will try upgrade through TV itself.  Cheers
[18:56] <histo> TBotNik: k
[18:56] <checoimg> Could someone be fishing my WiFi   ?
[18:56] <histo> TBotNik: your problem was you are trying to 64bit only version but good day
[18:56] <TBotNik> bprompt, histo: Thanks and bye!
[18:57] <histo> checoimg: sure it's possible
[18:58] <MERB> anyone with any idea why my openvpn server is giving this to clients on login: http://pastebin.com/6sqGQFu0
[18:58] <checoimg> hiro Should I post the question in the Forums. It woulld interesting.
[18:58] <MERB> MANAGEMENT: >STATE:1404413922,WAIT,,, is what keep popping up...
[18:59] <rapture> I'm running into the "bad map" bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vsftpd/+bug/1313450 on 14.04 (AWS) and after updating the kernel to 3.13.0-30 and restarting, uname still showing previous kernel
[18:59] <rapture> any idea why?
[18:59] <histo> checoimg: what question is that?
[18:59] <jacobat> Is there a way to work with PPA's that doesn't require installing python on a machine?
[19:00] <histo> jacobat: isn't python a default package?
[19:00] <checoimg> hiro Don't mind that it is not Ubuntu specific.
[19:00] <histo> checoimg: my name is histo not hiro
[19:00] <jacobat> histo: Not on this machine - I'm building a docker image
[19:01] <histo> jacobat: with a ppa?
[19:02] <histo> jacobat: you could write you own script to add the ppa to the sources.list
[19:02] <checoimg> haha Right
[19:02] <checoimg> histo Don't mind that it is not Ubuntu specific.
[19:02] <jacobat> apt-add-repository doesn't do anything besides writing a couple of lines to a sources.list?
[19:02] <histo> jacobat: well kind of, it probably adds them to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[19:03] <jacobat> Sure, but still...
[19:03] <histo> jacobat: what do you think it's doing?
[19:03] <jacobat> histo: I've got no idea
[19:03] <histo> jacobat: it's just a helper script
[19:04] <kingbeowolf> im trying to mount a filesystem that has a pagefile.sys but it isn't allowing me to mount it
[19:04] <kingbeowolf> -o remove_hiberfile isn't working either
[19:04] <histo> jacobat: which apt-add-repository and view it and see what it's doing
[19:04] <kingbeowolf> how can I fix this issue?
[19:04] <histo> kingbeowolf: what is the error you are receiving?
[19:05] <jacobat> histo: Thanks :)
[19:05] <histo> jacobat: np
[19:06] <helo> what in ubuntu modifies the date automatically?
[19:06] <helo> i'm running trusty inside a vm which has guest-additions, which attempts to syncronize the time of my host and guest machines
[19:06] <helo> but the time in the vm keeps jumping off to a different (yet seemingly consistent) time
[19:07] <histo> helo: what is your timezone set as?
[19:07] <helo> CDT
[19:07] <histo> helo: on the vm ls -l /etc/localtime
[19:08] <uyghur> #uyghur
[19:08] <helo> it's jumping an hour and a few minutes foward/backward depending on whether it is synched with my host or not
[19:08] <helo> histo: what about it?
[19:08] <histo> helo: what is it linked to?
[19:08] <helo> nothing
[19:09] <helo> it is a timezone data, version 2, 6 gmt time flags, 6 std time flags, no leap seconds, 235 transition times, 6 abbreviation chars
[19:09] <helo> not a symlink
[19:10] <Glorfindel> How do I unlock partitions in gparted so I can move them?
[19:10] <Glorfindel> The partitions are linux swap partitions
[19:11] <histo> helo: how far off is the time?
[19:11] <histo> Glorfindel: you have to make sure they aren't being used
[19:11] <jack> just re-partition, overwrite them
[19:11] <histo> Glorfindel: swapoff -a    and move them
[19:12] <histo> Glorfindel: why are you moving swap?
[19:12] <helo> it vascillates between my host's time, and about an hour, four minutes, and fifty-eight seconds after my hosts's time
[19:12] <helo> actually, exactly an hour and five minutes
[19:13] <histo> !ntp | helo
[19:13] <kingbeowolf> im trying to mount a filesystem that has a pagefile.sys but it isn't allowing me to mount it
[19:13] <kingbeowolf> -o remove_hiberfile isn't working either
[19:13] <kingbeowolf> how can I fix this issue?
[19:13] <histo> kingbeowolf: what error are you receiving?
[19:13] <helo> histo: running ntp on the vm causes these kinds of problems. it doesn't fix them...
[19:14] <histo> helo: what?
[19:14] <Glorfindel> jack: that isn't an option, sorry. Histo: thanks that worked! I am moving everything so that I can make a larger partition for data recovery
[19:14] <kingbeowolf> The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
[19:14] <kingbeowolf> Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
[19:14] <guest5298> Hello. One question: Do you know a really secure XMPP server?
[19:14] <kingbeowolf> histo, why is mount holding my hand?
[19:14] <helo> histo: the vm has a special module that keeps its time synched to the vm hosts's time
[19:14] <histo> kingbeowolf: huh?
[19:14] <ikonia> helo: this isn't vmware is it ?
[19:14] <helo> histo: installing ntp would fight with that module and mess up the time
[19:14] <helo> ikonia: it is virtualbox
[19:14] <kingbeowolf> I don't care about the pagefile.sys
[19:15] <kingbeowolf> Just mount the damn drive
[19:15] <histo> kingbeowolf: neither does mount
[19:15] <kingbeowolf> histo, yes it does
[19:15] <helo> is ntpdate ran automatically at any particular interval?
[19:15] <kingbeowolf> histo, that is why it is complaining
[19:15] <histo> kingbeowolf: perhaps if you would provide the complaining part we could help you
[19:15] <kingbeowolf> The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
[19:15] <kingbeowolf> Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
[19:15] <kingbeowolf> histo, ^
[19:15] <histo> kingbeowolf: and you believe that has to do with pagefile.sys why?
[19:16] <kingbeowolf> histo, because it is complaining about a windows hibernation file
[19:16] <hypergrove> hi all - i need to install php 5.4 or 5.3 on 14.04 -- the askubuntu answers relating to this all suggest neither of these packages work on 14.04... true or not
[19:16] <jpds> helo: You're better off installing ntpd.
[19:16] <histo> kingbeowolf: -o force
[19:16] <helo> jpds: the special kernel module does a bunch of other nice things that i want
[19:17] <kingbeowolf> histo, still holding my hand
[19:17] <ikonia> never heard of virbual box kernel module to sync time
[19:17] <helo> i don't care about the time being synched with my host, i just don't want the time to be jumping around like it is
[19:17] <Glorfindel> will moving bootable partitions cause grub to stop working?
[19:17] <histo> kingbeowolf: fix your filesystem then
[19:17] <kingbeowolf> histo, the file system is fine
[19:17] <jpds> helo: oh, right.
[19:17] <histo> kingbeowolf: no it's not
[19:17] <bprompt> kingbeowolf:    tryiugn to mount a windows partition/hdd?
[19:17] <kingbeowolf> bprompt, it is just an NTFS drive
[19:17] <helo> it's called "guest additions"
[19:17] <kingbeowolf> bprompt, doesn't even have windows on it
[19:17] <ikonia> Glorfindel: define bootable partitions
[19:17] <hypergrove> hi all - i need to install php 5.4 or 5.3 on 14.04 -- the askubuntu answers relating to this all suggest neither of these packages work on 14.04... true or not
[19:18] <kingbeowolf> bprompt, it just sees a pagefile.sys file and is holding my hand for me
[19:18] <Glorfindel> A partition that has an OS on it that I am using
[19:18] <histo> kingbeowolf: if it's just an ntfs drive why is there a pagefile.sys on it?
[19:18] <kingbeowolf> histo, for research
[19:18] <genii> kingbeowolf: You could try ntfsfix with the  --clear-dirty flag.
[19:19] <histo> kingbeowolf: are you trying to perform forensics on the pagefile.sys ?
[19:19] <kingbeowolf> histo, no i am trying to mount an NTFS drive
[19:19] <helo> i guess i'll try to disable guest additions time sync
[19:19] <histo> kingbeowolf: what sort of research are you doing?
[19:19] <helo> i.e. https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#disabletimesync
[19:19] <kingbeowolf> histo, irrelevent
[19:20] <helo> kingbeowolf: messing with that file will screw up the windows install that made it
[19:20] <histo> kingbeowolf: no it's relevant if you don't want to taint your research
[19:20] <helo> kingbeowolf: is there also a hiberfil.sys?
[19:20] <kingbeowolf> helo, that is fine
[19:21] <histo> kingbeowolf: also the presence of the pagefile.sys is not the issue
[19:21] <Glorfindel> ikonia: A partition that has an OS on it that I am using
[19:21] <histo> kingbeowolf: the $LogFile is the issue
[19:21] <ikonia> Glorfindel: it can cause grub to fail then
[19:21] <Glorfindel> ok, how would I fix it?
[19:21] <Glorfindel> or should I just not do it>?
[19:21] <helo> kingbeowolf: try adding -o remove_hiberfile
[19:21] <ikonia> Glorfindel: fix where grub points either on the mbr or in the config file
[19:22] <kingbeowolf> helo, yeah i tried that and i get the same error
[19:22] <bprompt> kingbeowolf:    one sec
[19:22] <Glorfindel> where is the config, ikonia?
[19:22] <bprompt> kingbeowolf:    mount has an option to remove that... .can't recall it offhand just yet =)
[19:22] <histo> bprompt: yeah force
[19:23] <bprompt> hmmm
[19:23] <bprompt> kingbeowolf:   http://askubuntu.com/questions/204166/how-do-i-mount-a-hibernated-ntfs-partition
[19:23] <kingbeowolf> bprompt, this does not work
[19:24] <histo> lol
[19:24] <bprompt> hmm
[19:24] <bprompt> kingbeowolf:   so the hdd is empty? just ntfs?
[19:24] <histo> kingbeowolf: did you ntfsfix it yet?
[19:24] <kingbeowolf> bprompt, thats what i tried first
[19:24] <holytomato>  a short question ... hopw to deactive the insert key? Is it possible to do without having to access the terminal?
[19:25] <Glorfindel> where is the config ikonia?
[19:25] <hypergrove> does anyone know about 14.04 compatibility for php 5.3 or 5.4?
[19:26] <rwd> !info php5
[19:26] <rwd> hypergrove: fix your application software to work with current versions of PHP instead of going down this garden path
[19:26] <rwd> or don't, but that would be my recommendation
[19:27] <kingbeowolf> genii, ntfsfix worked
[19:27] <kingbeowolf> thanks everyone
[19:28] <genii> kingbeowolf: Glad to be of assistance.
[19:28] <ubuntu> vasant yadav
[19:29] <histo> kingbeowolf: ps your pagefile.sys isn't the problem
[19:29] <histo> kingbeowolf: nor was mount, it's the fact that the journal in NTFS was jacked up
[19:29] <p137> Hey Guy Iǘe got a problem. Some people in here who know omiga plus? A friend of me has this at the Computer. How to remove?
[19:29] <zartoosh> Hi I have problem removing a personal pkg  using dpkg --purge <pkg name>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7743501/
[19:31] <bekks> p137: Is that some Ubuntu software?
[19:31] <p137> no
[19:31] <p137> but i hoped that someone knows that
[19:31] <t0th_-> hi
[19:31] <t0th_-> anybody can help me with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php-apc/+bug/1262964 ?
[19:31] <bekks> p137: Maybe you should just describe the issue a bit further.
[19:31] <rwd> p137: try ##windows
[19:31] <rwd> bekks: it's some Windows malware
[19:32] <bekks> rwd: Ah ok.
[19:32] <p137> It's a Hijacker
[19:32] <p137> very hard to remove
[19:32] <SpeendaSh> Hello everyone, i have a question about SAMBA sharing, i'm a xubuntu user i have shared with my wii and my Windows 7 laptop some folders and it works great but i would like to add a password so that only i can acces it, anyone know how to proceed ? i'm a littel lost with the system samba gui x:
[19:32] <kingbeowolf> histo, yeah I think so
[19:33] <greggo> p137: try ultimate boot disk or other bootable AV toolkit
[19:33] <histo> kingbeowolf: I know so
[19:33] <kingbeowolf> histo, so do I
[19:34] <histo> p137: what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[19:34] <kingbeowolf> histo, know of any programs that allow you to view journal information
[19:34] <histo> !ppapurge | zartoosh
[19:36] <kingbeowolf> histo, do you know how to view the change journal ?
[19:37] <histo> !ot | p137
[19:37] <SpeendaSh> Hello everyone, i have a question about SAMBA sharing, i'm a xubuntu user i have shared with my wii and my Windows 7 laptop some folders and it works great but i would like to add a password so that only i can acces it, anyone know how to proceed ? i'm a littel lost with the system samba gui x:
[19:37] <histo> kingbeowolf: you can use tools like the sleuth kit
[19:38] <kingbeowolf> histo, cool thanks
[19:38] <compdoc> SpeendaSh, do you have valid users set for the share?
[19:39] <SpeendaSh> compdoc, eum... how to know that ? ^ ^'
[19:39] <compdoc> samba is all about the file /etc/samba/smb.conf
[19:40] <compdoc> lots of examples and how tos on google
[19:41] <compdoc> valid users = SpeendaSh
[19:41] <SpeendaSh> compdoc,  yes... that's what i've understand so far. but... i don't know what to edit to add a password, i tried some tuto' but it didn't worked... the only way for it to work is when i make my shares are accecible by everyone in my network...
[19:43] <compdoc> SpeendaSh, you create a user with the username you want, and assing a password for samba with smbpasswd
[19:43] <p137> someone know a good prog for whatch tv? but ip based
[19:44] <SpeendaSh> compdoc,  i tired it through the commond line using this : sudo smbpasswd -a <user_name>  but yet it didn't worked..
[19:44] <bekks> p137: your webbrowser actually.
[19:44] <SpeendaSh> compdoc,  what is the command line to set the username ?
[19:45] <Jordan_U> p137: What type of streams are you planning to watch? What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:49] <genii> p137: VLC is capable of playing almost anything.
[19:49] <compdoc> that adds a new user to samba:   sudo smbpasswd –a speendash
[19:49] <compdoc> and this changes an existing user: sudo smbpasswd speendash
[19:49] <genii> compdoc: Might also want to add -e so user is enabled after adding a password to it
[19:50] <SpeendaSh> compdoc,  i see ! ok i'm going to try and see if it works (:  thank you very much (:
[19:50] <compdoc> do you even need sudo?
[19:50] <jay_> i'm just wonder how i know which software to download from the Ubuntu Software centre to try out KDE as a desktop environment
[19:50] <compdoc> not sure if thats proper use, but try
[19:50] <SpeendaSh> compdoc,  yes i think i need sudo
[19:50] <jay_> my computer is working right and i don't want to mess it up lol
[19:50] <SpeendaSh> compdoc,  yep i'll try right now
[19:52] <eeee> jay_: kde = kubuntu, right?
[19:52] <jay_> i am not sure
[19:52] <jay_> i have Xubuntu right now
[19:52] <SpeendaSh> compdoc,  Man ! you're genius !! (X thanks a lot ! that works now !
[19:52] <jay_> i want to try out different desktop environments
[19:52] <SpeendaSh> compdoc,  flop it (X i was using a wrong Commond line from the begining lol
[19:53] <genii> jay_: Kubuntu is the KDE desktop plus a selected set of applications that work under it.
[19:53] <eeee> ok, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:53] <genii> jay_: For most different versions you just install like kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, etcetera
[19:53] <jay_> can i get it from the Ubunut software centre too eeee ?
[19:54] <eeee> yes i think so
[19:54] <jay_> sorry i'm not comfortable with the terminal yet
[19:54] <eeee> it should be there
[19:54] <jay_> so i would search for Kubuntu and not KDE desktop environment?
[19:54] <eeee> yeah
[19:55] <genii> jay_: Installing kubuntu-desktop is your safe choice here.
[19:55] <eeee> it's called Kubuntu plasma desktop
[19:55] <jay_> oh ok. what about for like gnome say?
[19:55] <eeee> i think ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[19:55] <reisio> gnome-shell
[19:56] <jay_> why don't you guys used the software centre instead of guessing? i'm just curious about that
[19:56] <ThKo> Hi, is it with this tutorial possible to take it for creating a bootable hard drive? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[19:57] <reisio> jay_: why would they :p
[19:57] <jay_> because then you know it exists
[19:57] <reisio> ThKo: if it's on ubuntu.com, probably
[19:57] <reisio> well I already know gnome-shell exists :)
[19:57] <reisio> but they might learn something :p
[19:57] <jay_> aren't you just guessing with the terminal ?
[19:57] <ThKo> In case of USB Stick an external hard drive and after that implement the harddrive into my notebook
[19:58] <eeee> jay_: no you can use apt-cache search <name or description>
[19:58] <bekks> jay_: With the terminal, you have to know what to type - that no guessing :)
[19:58] <profall> whats your guys favorite torrent client for ubuntu 14.04?
[19:58] <reisio> ThKo: so via an enclosure?
[19:58] <reisio> profall: deluge
[19:58] <greggo> jay: apt-cache search ?
[19:58] <genii> jay_: Since I use all different kinds of Ubuntu, I just stick to the command-line of apt-get since it is the same across all versions and not dependent on a specific graphical package manager.
[19:58] <reisio> profall: what're you used to?
[19:58] <jay_> oh. what if i just typ apt -cache? will i get everything in the repositories?
[19:58] <eeee> no you wont get anything
[19:58] <eeee> i think
[19:58] <jay_> that makes sense genii
[19:59] <profall> I used to use micro-torrent (utorrent) on windows
[19:59] <greggo> yes
[19:59] <ThKo> reisio: Yep…Problem: My MacBook doesn’t have an disc drive :D And I don’t want to buy an external
[19:59] <jay_> the freakin' command line. everyone's always talking about how great the boring old command line is.lol
[19:59] <greggo> jay you can search with apt-cache search <term>
[20:00] <greggo> command line makes the world go around, it'll never go away
[20:00] <reisio> ThKo: okay so what was the question again?
[20:01] <ThKo> Take this tutorial: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx and replace USB Stick with external hdd, and after this tutorial, install the hdd into a notebook?
[20:01] <u19809>  hi all, I need help.  I have ubuntu on a zotac with an ION NVIDIA.  I ran the 304 version of NVIDIA and also the latest but when starting X NVIDIA does not detect my TV.  It claims failed to assign any connected display devices to X screen 0. HELP !
[20:04] <eeee> jay_: in the software center there are 2 gnome's the ubuntu-gnome-desktop, and another gnome (which you get by just typing gnome), anyways the latter is full, and like double the size
[20:04] <eeee> it has alot more reviews and stuff
[20:05] <daschel> has there been any word on the browser video problem where video fullscreens in a windowed mode?
[20:05] <reisio> daschel: in chrome?
[20:05] <rubytor> ThKo: I dont understand you... Let me see: You have a Mac without hdd, so you want to buy a hard drive then install it into your mac and finally install a SO?? Is that all??
[20:06] <reisio> ThKo: can you just describe what you want without asking us to read a big blog?
[20:06] <jhutchins> daschel: Doesn't seem to be a general problem.
[20:06] <daschel> reisio, chromium, but yea.
[20:06] <jhutchins> ThKo: Yes, that's possible.
[20:07] <jay_> sorry eeee  i had a phone call
[20:07] <jhutchins> ThKo: There are a few different ways to do it.
[20:07] <jay_> ok. can i download both desktop environments at once?
[20:07] <jhutchins> ThKo: Most people would just use a USB drive.
[20:07] <reisio> think that's just a chrom/e/ium issue
[20:07] <jay_> or do i need to restart between each or something?
[20:07] <reisio> jay_: yes, but it gets messy/confusing
[20:08] <reisio> jay_: no, restarts are for other OSes
[20:08] <daschel> jhutchins, i meant to specify that it was in chrome.  and i only mentioned it nonchalantly because when i mentioned it his after this recent install, the channel lit up immediately, so i assumed it was a well-known problem
[20:08] <daschel> *his=here
[20:08] <jay_> ok so i don't have to restart the pc after an installation? i had to for my wireless driver on Xubuntu
[20:08] <reisio> ThKo: a drive in an enclosure is the same as a drive inside the box to GNU/Linux
[20:08] <reisio> ThKo: a drive is a drive is a drive
[20:09] <reisio> ThKo: if you change its connections you might have to alter information about where it is
[20:09] <ThKo> reisio: That is what I want to hear :D
[20:09] <ThKo> Thanks
[20:09] <reisio> ThKo: for example in /etc/fstab, and possibly reconfigure/reinstall GRUB
[20:09] <ThKo> Ok great
[20:09] <reisio> ThKo: it's quite simple to do, if you have any trouble, just ask someone about it
[20:09] <ThKo> Ok I’ll do
[20:10] <reisio> if you want to avoid all issues, put it inside the box, connect it, then boot a live OS and have someone here walk you through the alterations beforehand
[20:10] <reisio> s/beforehand/before you try to boot it up/
[20:10] <jay_> wooooie. i hope these desktop environments install good and everything. this could be fun to explore :) eeee
[20:10] <reisio> exploring is fun indeed
[20:10] <ThKo> reisio: Ok, thank you :)
[20:11] <dave_s> So, apparently Idera CDP doesn't support the 14.04 Kernel, is it possible to downgrade Ubuntu 14.04 to a lower Kernel version that is supported temporarily?
[20:11] <eeee> jay_: you might have to restart, anything else you dont have to restart usually
[20:12] <jay_> eeee, i might have to restart after this install?
[20:12] <jay_> or can i install gnome now too?
[20:15] <eeee> sorry i was lagging, yeah you might have to restart iirc
[20:15] <eeee> ( jay_ )
[20:15] <jay_> iirc?
[20:15] <eeee> if i recall correctly
[20:15] <jay_> what's that
[20:16] <eeee> :)
[20:17] <jay_> what's iirc eeee ?
[20:17] <eeee> it means If I Recall Correctly
[20:17] <jay_> kubuntu is almost done. after it's done, can i just try it by loging out? or should i restart? and i didn't know that about iirc lol
[20:17] <dave_s> Does anyone know if it's possible to downgrade the Linux Kernel in 14.04?
[20:18] <eeee> jay_: if they dont ask you to restart, sure just log out
[20:18] <jay_> okies cool. if it needs a restart, a program will tell me after installing?
[20:18] <eeee> yeah
[20:19] <jay_> nioce. thanks programmers
[20:19] <z0ran> dave_s; why would you do that
[20:20] <jay_> will i have access to call of these programs currently installed with xfce when i go to dke?
[20:20] <dave_s> z0ran: Idera CDP doesn't support the kernel being used in 14.04 and won't start for a few weeks, but I need to have this running tonight.
[20:20] <jay_> i have to restart bbiab
[20:20] <diverdude> Ok, something that REALLLY is SOOOO ANNOYING is that when i want to resize  a window i have to spend like 5 minutes placing the mouse on the EXACT pixel which represents the dragline of the window. HOW can i make it more easy to resize windows? This is one of the worst things about linux UIs!!!!!
[20:20] <dave_s> diverdude: What Shell are you using?
[20:21] <dave_s> Gnome, KDE, Unity?
[20:21] <dave_s> I've never had that problem with Gnome 3 or Unity, I don't use KDE.
[20:21] <diverdude> dave_s, i am currently using zsh (used to use bash)
[20:21] <z0ran> dave_s; i think is possible to downgrade, but that will give a lots of problems with other applications
[20:22] <dave_s> z0ran: So basically I should just nuke it?
[20:22] <dave_s> diverdude: That's a GUI?
[20:23] <diverdude> dave_s, no those are shells
[20:23] <tommalufe> connect<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:23] <dave_s> Okay, but what GUI shell are you using?
[20:25] <dave_s> If you're just using a CLI shell, not sure there are too many windows to worry about resizing.
[20:29] <hellier> Hello, is it possible to change the set ubuntu username? the /home/[username] ?
[20:31] <Ben64> hellier: yes, you can use usermod from recovery mode
[20:32] <hellier> cool ben64
[20:32] <hellier> also, is it possibe to cange the word used in terminal [username]@[this word] ?
[20:32] <jpds> hellier: The hostname?
[20:32] <hellier> That's the one I actually want to change. I named it something daft
[20:33] <hellier> I think it's the hostname, yeah
[20:33] <jpds> hellier: gksudo gedit /etc/hosts /etc/hostname
[20:33] <hellier> http://kegoi.com/yFEg2.jpg I named it mango :(
[20:34] <hellier> thanks jpds
[20:39] <jay_> eeee, kde wasn't very different.
[20:40] <jay_> now my icons looks weird in the top right. for some reason, they are black. the bar is grey
[20:43] <jay_> i have a general question. what happens if you try to use a program made for KDE in Xfce?
[20:43] <Jordan_U> jay_: Did you actually change your session to KDE? It's surprising to hear someone say that KDE doesn't seem different from XFCE/GNOME/Unity.
[20:43] <digs> I am running 14.04 on AWS and have php5 installed from the standard repos. I need to downgrade to 5.3.x (I would prefer .27) I have tried to target it with a version by doing apt-get install php5=5.3.27-1ubuntu4.2 but I get Version '5.3.27-1ubuntu4.2' for 'php5' was not found
[20:43] <digs> What do I need to do?
[20:44] <Jordan_U> jay_: Changing your session is something you do at the login screen.
[20:44] <jay_> ya i did Jordan_U  the menu is different and there's an application switching type bars as well. otherwise. it's kinda the same thing in a different spot
[20:45] <jay_> i don't know what i was expecting, but it wasn't like a mac to windows type difference
[20:46] <jay_> Jordan_U, what happens if i try to run KDE programs in an Xfce environment? it looks like all programs are available to both Desktop Environments
[20:47] <arooni-mobile> hey folks ubuntu 14.04 here on a lenvoo 420 lappy.  cant get skype or voice recording to work;  shows the mute button on my mic volume is turned on but pushing the button doesnt do anything
[20:47] <eeee> sorry jay_ im back
[20:47] <jay_> it's all good eeee
[20:47] <digs> wrong ubuntu channel sorry.
[20:47] <eeee> the screenshot of gnome looked kind of cool
[20:47] <genii> jay_: Whenever you run applications from one desktop environment in another desktop environment, it loads whatever libraries it needs in the background to run them
[20:48] <jay_> oh ok. now what if i have accidentally (unknowingly) downloaded a gnome program but i don't have the gnome desktop installed?
[20:48] <jay_> genii,
[20:48] <eeee> the full gnome desktop
[20:49] <genii> jay_: If you have INSTALLED a gnome application through package manager, it will have also installed all the things it requires to run.
[20:49] <jhutchins> The varios desktops can be configured to look and act a lot a like, expecially gnome/kde/xfce
[20:50] <jhutchins> I think lxde tends to be fairly divergent.
[20:50] <jay_> oh ok genii. is that due to the smart package and library management involved with linux repositories?
[20:51] <genii> jay_: The short answer to that is Yes
[20:51] <jhutchins> jay_: Given this list you should be able to find something that appeals to you: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Desktops/
[20:52] <jay_> thanks jhutchins i'll take a look. i like the look of MAC like docks. are those individual things i need to download or are they part of a DE
[20:52] <eeee> there is the cairo dock thing
[20:53] <jay_> i tried to install and uninstall cairo and it messed up my pc
[20:53] <jhutchins> jay_: Depends on the desktop.
[20:54] <jay_> it uninstalled it, but it was still in my menu items. so i went to the package manager and uninstalled everything that was checked with cairo. bad idea. nothing worked after that. had to reinstall Xubuntu
[20:54] <jhutchins> jay_: Some of those are pre-packaged and themed for Ubuntu, some you might have to install from source, and that list (28?) isn't everything available.
[20:55] <jay_> what's the difference between a theme and a window manager jhutchins ?
[20:56] <jhutchins> jay_: Sometimes the lines are hard to define universally.  A theme is usually a collection of settings for how things look, what colors are used, what icons and pointers look like.  Some desktops can package those settings, usually with wallpaper, splash screens, and/or screensavers and manage them as "themes".
[20:57] <jhutchins> jay_: A window manager is what manages drawing the windows, moving them around, setting the controls for maximise/minimise/close etc.
[20:57] <jhutchins> jay_: A window manager might be able to run more than one desktop, or might be closely tied to a certain one.
[20:58] <jay_> i think i get it. thanks jhutchins
[20:58] <jhutchins> jay_: There's also the "toolkit" used to create the graphics, usually GTK or QT.
[20:59] <jay_> i want to uninstall KDE. i went to the ubuntu software manager and under installed i typed KDE. i have like 30 programs. non are the original package i installed. how do i uninstall it completely?
[20:59] <jhutchins> jay_: A "DE" is a Desktop Environment or Development Environment that brings together a toolkit, a manager, and a desktop, along with in-project applications that share libraries and ways of doing things.
[21:00] <jay_> that's good to know actually. so a desktop environment has a windows manager, toolkit and what is the desktop part?
[21:00] <reisio> jay_: 'the desktop part'
[21:00] <reisio> implementations vary
[21:01] <reisio> often the file manager doubles as the desktop manager
[21:01] <reisio> think of a giant, borderless, menuless file manager
[21:01] <reisio> showing you icons
[21:01] <jhutchins> jay_: Usually desktop decorations, icons, application menu, toolbar and/or dock, applets, etc.
[21:02] <eeee> jay_: try typing kubuntu in the software center to uninstall
[21:03] <jay_> i want a neat looking dock that i used once on a vector distro. it acted like a mac went i hovered over the icons. it made them increase slightly in size and printer the name of the program i was hoovering over on the screen. would that be part of a desktop or separate from the desktop?
[21:04] <jhutchins> jay_: It would probably be something from within the desktop package(s) that was running and could be turned on or off.
[21:04] <jay_> i look at my fingers when i type sometimes sorry for the mistakes
[21:04] <jhutchins> jay_: Might require an additional install if you didn't have a "grab everything" metapackage.
[21:05] <jay_> hmmm so how would i add one of those to Xfce?
[21:06] <zombu2> dont xfce have that already could have sworn I saw that the other day
[21:07] <jhutchins> jay_: Look for cairo-dock, awn, or docky on the web, see which looks more like what you want.
[21:07] <jhutchins> jay_: There may be others.
[21:07] <jay_> arg. still can't find kde desktop to uninstall eeee . i tried kubuntu as well
[21:07] <jhutchins> jay_: dockbarx also available.
[21:07] <jhutchins> !kde
[21:08] <jay_> will they work with xfce or are they specific to different DEs?
[21:08] <jhutchins> jay_: All of those have an xfce version.
[21:08] <ProfessorKaos64> Is there no resolution at all for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1326725 ?
[21:08] <jhutchins> jay_: xfce dock in google.  That might return stuff that's not currently packaged for ubuntu.
[21:09] <jay_> ah ok. i'll try that
[21:09] <jay_> how can i uninstall kde?
[21:09] <reisio> jay_: to use what instead?
[21:09] <jay_> do i have to do each program one by one or is there an easier way?
[21:09] <reisio> former
[21:09] <jay_> i have fxce too reisio. that's what i'm using right now
[21:09] <jhutchins> jay_: Well, you don't need to uninstall it to use xfce, but probably aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop.  Kinda depends on how you installed it.
[21:10] <reisio> jay_: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[21:10] <Numinex> sudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop
[21:10] <fwankie> help! sudo apt-get upgrade returns an error, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/7743983/
[21:10] <eeee> jay_: go to the software center and type kubuntu, and where you clicked install there should be uninstall i think
[21:11] <jhutchins> fwankie: What are ALL of the steps you took?
[21:11] <jhutchins> fwankie: What are you upgrading from and to?
[21:12] <jay_> i finally found it near the middle of a huge list eeee thanks
[21:13] <fwankie> jhutchins: it started when I "sudo apt-get install ardour"
[21:13] <fwankie> jhutchins: using wikimedia servers
[21:13] <eeee> jay_: you dont have to search for it in the installed apps, you can search in the search as usual
[21:14] <fwankie> jhutchins: care to see /var/log/apt/history.log ?
[21:15] <jay_> eeee, it left a bunch of K*** programs installed. I assume they are from the kde installation
[21:15] <jay_> why didn't it uninstall everything?
[21:15] <jay_> is this common?
[21:16] <eeee> jay_: are you talking about the technical items ?
[21:16] <Numinex> jay_, do apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop
[21:17] <Numinex> (Correct me if that won't work for whatever reason)
[21:17] <fwankie> jhutchins: would love to just go delete any reference to libaubio4, but not sure how to do that
[21:18] <jay_> I'm talking about KDE Kcalc Kmag Kmouse K this K that