[04:11] <MTecknology> Is this a BSD license?  http://dpaste.com/220330/
[04:12] <ScottK> MTecknology: BSD like, but not precisely BSD.
[04:13] <MTecknology> ScottK: so he came up with his own license?
[04:13] <ScottK> I'm guessing he copied it from somewhere.
[04:14] <MTecknology> How far off is it from being BSD?
[04:14] <MTecknology> actually... http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php
[04:14] <MTecknology> It looks like only the third bullet is missing..
[04:15] <MTecknology> ScottK: or am I wrong?
[04:16] <ScottK> Probably not (sorry, no time to read it)
[04:17] <MTecknology> ScottK: ok, thanks
[04:32] <micahg> should I be running into criss-cross merges with udd merges?
[05:07] <bilalakhtar> Good morning everyone. It appears that when I switched to UDD, my patches stopped getting sponsored. Is there really a differentiation like this? or sponsors are fair on both affairs?
[05:08] <maco> bilalakhtar: what do you mean? you mean you're making branches and attaching them but not using debdiffs? are you remembering to submit merge proposals for those branches?
[05:08] <maco> james_w: how do i get on the list of people notified of merge proposals being submitted, by the way?
[05:11] <bilalakhtar> maco: yes, I am proposing merge. see http://code.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar
[05:11] <bilalakhtar> see so many branches have merge proposals\
[05:12] <maco> bilalakhtar: then i suspect its just because the list of people who receive notification of merge proposals is tiny (like...james_w and cjwatson and ummm none others i know of) with no instructions on how to join it
[05:12] <bilalakhtar> maco: so what should I do?
[05:12] <micahg> bilalakhtar: 4 of your merges show up on teh sponsoring page
[05:13] <bilalakhtar> maco: yes, they do, but no response
[05:13] <maco> pokr a sponsor like you'd do anyway?
[05:13]  * maco never had anything sponsored without flat-out asking for a sponsor on irc
[05:13] <bilalakhtar> maco: oh
[05:14] <micahg> bilalakhtar: we're still short on sponsors
[05:14] <bilalakhtar> maco: but, 4-5 of my debdiff merges got sponsored easilt
[05:14] <bilalakhtar> easily
[05:14] <bilalakhtar> and by easily, I mean within 2-3 days without having to come here
[05:15] <bilalakhtar> the problem is with UDD. Perhaps sponsors find debdiffs easier ?
[05:15] <maco> some do, yes. havent all learned the new way
[05:15] <maco> teaching old dogs new tricks, as it were
[05:16] <maco> micahg: why only 4 of the 6 show on the sponsor page?
[05:16] <micahg> maco: idk, I only saw 4
[05:16] <maco> weird
[05:17] <bilalakhtar> maco: the rest have been commented by sponsors and set 'needs fixing'
[05:17] <bilalakhtar> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar/ubuntu/maverick/selinux-basics/merge-603595/+merge/29547
[05:17] <bilalakhtar> and
[05:18] <bilalakhtar> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar/ubuntu/maverick/gpsdrive/merge-605350/+merge/29852
[05:19] <bilalakhtar> maco: but this one https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bilalakhtar/ubuntu/maverick/selinux-basics/merge-603595/+merge/29547 should be shown on sponsorship page, as I have fixed all the stuff pointed out by Stefano
[05:20] <maco> gah lp login has switched to the left side of the screen. confusing
[05:21] <maco> bilalakhtar: i think you want the "resubmit proposal" button on the right
[05:22] <bilalakhtar> maco: lp login on the left? when? Not for me, right now
[05:22] <bilalakhtar> ok, I will do that
[05:23] <bilalakhtar> maco: done
[05:23] <maco> if im guessing right about how it works, thatll put it back on the sponsor page
[05:23] <micahg> is there a UDD channel?
[05:24] <maco> ah!
[05:24] <maco> i think also the "request another review" button and putting in ubuntu-sponsors would work
[05:25] <maco> it likely goes by that team being listed, but once stefano had taken it for review it went off the list
[05:30] <bilalakhtar> maco: you are motu, right?
[05:30] <maco> yes
[05:30] <maco> i cant sponsor on the slow slow awful network im on right now though. if you poke me in about 12 hours i can do an upload from work though
[05:31] <bilalakhtar> Stefano was right on the gpsdrive merge. nothing is remaining, once I had solved a few issues. So, I am forwarding patch for bug #325288 to debian and requesting sync.
[05:31] <bilalakhtar> maco: I just need you to review sync. can you do that, please ?
[05:32] <maco> er... do what?
[05:32] <maco> i thought syncing was for archive admins
[05:32] <micahg> maco: syncs need a sponsor ack
[05:32] <bilalakhtar> exactly ^^
[05:34] <maco> oh
[05:34] <bilalakhtar> maco: bug #605350
[05:34] <bilalakhtar> oops, setting it to new now
[05:34] <bilalakhtar> bug #605350
[05:44]  * micahg goes to do a merge to feed the builders :)
[05:49] <micahg> do the Ubuntu builders understand this notation in control: libgudev-1.0-dev [linux-any]]
[06:26] <bilalakhtar> hyperair: hello and welcome
[07:27] <wgrant> micahg: I'm not sure if it's been rolled out yet, but support for [linux-any] in build-deps was added to trunk a couple of days ago.
[07:28] <micahg> wgrant: what's the worst that would happen if I upload with it (asumming it builds locally)
[07:32] <wgrant> micahg: The build will fail.
[07:33] <micahg> wgrant: k, in which case, I bump the changelog and get rid of the fields?
[07:33] <wgrant> Or it chooses an alternative dep.
[07:33] <wgrant> micahg: Or convince lamont to upgrade the buildds, then hit retry.
[07:36]  * micahg still needs to convince lamont to upload the new nmap :)
[08:00] <james_w> maco: you can subscribe to the ubuntu-reviews mailing list
[08:04] <micahg> wgrant: fails in pbuilder, I'll fix the deps in the control file
[08:14] <bilalakhtar> Are merges allowed after FeatureFreeze ?
[08:14] <bilalakhtar> ok, got it. NO
[08:14] <BlackZ> bilalakhtar: if they're requested before the FF, yes
[08:15] <micahg> bilalakhtar: depends if they are feature changes
[08:19] <geser> bilalakhtar: like micahg said, depending on the changes merges can be allowed or need an exception
[08:20] <geser> bilalakhtar: new upstream version most likely need an exception, but merging e.g. from -1ubuntu1 to -2 is no problem (unless this introduces a new feature)
[08:23] <bilalakhtar> ok
[08:23] <bilalakhtar> so FF really means FEATURE freeze
[08:24] <geser> yes
[08:24] <bilalakhtar> geser: are you free?
[08:24] <geser> yes
[08:25] <bilalakhtar> geser: could you please check bug #605350
[08:27] <BlackZ> bilalakhtar: could you link the debian bug report to the LP one?
[08:27] <bilalakhtar> BlackZ: I have done it. see bug #325288
[08:31] <BlackZ> bilalakhtar: if it's not accepted yet from debian we can't sync the package and we have to proceed with a merge, if it's not applied before the debian freeze, proceed with a merge then
[08:33] <bilalakhtar> BlackZ: but Stefano commented "Nothing is remaining now"
[08:35] <BlackZ> bilalakhtar: check the debian package changelog if you have any doubt on it
[08:36] <bilalakhtar> yes, nothing is remaining, Stefano is correct, but I think stefano forgot about this bug, which I fixed myself
[10:03] <Riddell> geser: ping
[10:04] <Riddell> geser: your acetoneiso upload got caught in the qtwebkit transition we're doing
[10:04] <Riddell> geser: can you upload with the build-dep changed to libqtwebkit-dev
[12:43]  * Rhonda blinks at http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libX11/commit/?id=554d
[14:06] <plars> I'm seeing a warning: "This package could not be extracted; there's no browsable directory for it on REVU" on something I uploaded, but I can't seem to find an explanation of what causes that
[14:08] <BlackZ> plars: does the package use quilt 3.0 ?
[14:08] <Rhonda> What's quilt 3.0?
[14:09] <plars> source format 3, yes, but I don't currently need any patches, so no quilt
[14:09] <Rhonda> plars: REVU doesn't support source format 3 yet, sorry.
[14:09] <BlackZ> Rhonda: I meant quilt with the source format 3 ;)
[14:09] <plars> Rhonda: ah, so should I have done something else?  I was not too familiar with the source format stuff, but from what I read it sounded like I should use 3 unless I had a good reason not to
[14:09] <Rhonda> BlackZ: It's a bad misnamer, though. But that's a different story.
[14:10] <Rhonda> plars: Use the same source format than what the package uses in Debian.
[14:10] <Rhonda> Or isn't it in Debian? If not, why not? :)
[14:10] <plars> Rhonda: this is a new package
[14:11]  * Rhonda . o O ( to me REVU would be a good reason not to use 3 ;) )
[14:21] <geser> Riddell: the latest upload of acetoneiso build-depends on libqtwebkit-dev only already. The unmodified Debian package had "libqt4-dev (<< 4:4.7.0~beta2) | libqtwebkit-dev" in Build-Depends but due a bug in the buildds it got resolved wrongly and the package FTBFS and I dropped the first part of it.
[14:35] <juli_> Hello. Could you please review a new package felix-osgi-obr required for NetBeans 6.9 packages. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/felix-osgi-obr. Thanks
[14:56] <ScottK> geser: Is there a bug so wgrant can fix it?
[14:57] <wgrant> ScottK: There is a bug.
[14:57] <wgrant> I'm working on porting LP to use a modern, system sbuild.
[14:57] <wgrant> Which should fix it.
[14:57] <ScottK> wgrant: Thanks.  Sounds lovely.
[14:57] <wgrant> But it's a couple of months off at least.
[14:57] <ScottK> Yes, doesn't sound trivial.
[14:58] <wgrant> Our sbuild currently has some wonderful, wonderful hack.s
[14:58] <ScottK> Not suprising.
[15:02] <geser> ScottK: yes, that issue is filed as bug #594916
[15:02] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:05] <geser> ScottK: can you fix bug #607429? or is an AA with shell access needed? (it's an archive inconsistency)
[15:05] <ScottK> geser: needs shell access.
[15:12] <StevenK> geser: DOne.
[15:12] <StevenK> s/O/o/
[15:12] <geser> thanks
[16:32] <lfaraone> The prefered method for sponsorship requests for new upstream versions using 3.0 (quilt) is to provide a link to the orig.tar.gz and upload as a patch the debian.tar.gz, right?
[16:44] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: if the watch file works, you prabbly don't need to provide the orig.tar.gz
[16:44] <micahg> do I need to worry about non-linux arches in Ubuntu?
[16:44] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: you can also use the UDD approach (use bzr merge-upstream)
[16:44] <ScottK> micahg: No.
[16:44] <micahg> ScottK: k, thanks
[16:48] <micahg> ScottK: what's the arch reference called after the package in the control file:  libgudev-1.0-dev [linux-any] so I can mention in the change log that I'm dropping it
[16:49] <ScottK> Why are you dropping it?
[16:49] <ScottK> Ubuntu doesn't require it, but it doesn't hurt.
[16:50] <micahg> I had trouble in pbuilder with it, is there some flag I'm missing?
[16:52] <tumbleweed> didin't I see something about soyuz also not liking linux-all?
[16:56] <micahg> ScottK: pbuilder can't find the build-deps, I figured that soyuz wouldn't have any better luk
[16:56] <micahg> *luck
[16:57] <ScottK> That's relatively recently.  I'm guessing you're on Lucid with your pbuilder?
[16:57] <ScottK> recently/recent.
[16:57] <micahg> ScottK: yes, but in a maverick pbuilder
[16:58] <ScottK> If it doesn't work in Maverick, we need to get that fixed as it's supported.
[16:58] <micahg> ScottK: so I should upload w/out testing?  wgrant told me it hit the buildd trunk recently
[16:59] <ScottK> I'd upload to a PPA and see what happens.
[16:59] <micahg> ScottK: ok
[17:07] <micahg> BlackZ: congrats on becoming MOTU
[17:09] <BlackZ> thanks micahg :)
[17:34] <shadeslayer> BlackZ: kongrats :D
[17:35] <BlackZ> thanks shadeslayer, thanks all ;)
[17:36]  * shadeslayer just got his first package into debian
[17:48] <lfaraone> I have a local mirror of maverick and lucid. Is there a way I can have pbuilder use that rather than duplicating these packages in the cache when it downloads from the local mirror via HTTP?
[17:49] <lfaraone> Unrelated, if a package was removed in say, Intrepid, does it count as new if we reupload it now in maverick?
[17:54] <shadeslayer> lfaraone: yes
[17:54] <shadeslayer> to the first question ;)
[17:55] <lfaraone> shadeslayer: okay, how can I do that? :)
[17:55] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: and to the second question
[17:55] <JontheEchidna> lfaraone: I'm fairly sure that it'll have to go through both binary and source new queue
[17:55] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: pbuilder --login --save-after-login
[17:55] <tumbleweed> then you can do whatever you want in there
[17:56] <tumbleweed> oh, misread
[17:56] <shadeslayer> lfaraone: well ^^ or you can modify ~/.pbuilderrc
[17:56] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: APTCACHE="" in pbuilderrc
[18:01] <carstenh> or you use --aptcache ""
[18:15] <mhall119> is there a way to make a package depend on $pkg-gnome if the user has gnome installed, and $pkg-xfce otherwise?
[18:19] <mhall119> specifically, I'm going to make a qimo-session-xfce (for Qimo), and qimo-session-gnome (for Edubuntu)
[18:19] <mhall119> but if someone wants to install qimo-desktop, and they already have gnome, I want to use qimo-session-gnome, otherwise I want to use qimo-session-xfce
[18:44] <geser> ScottK: soyuz doesn't support "Architecture: linux-any" yet (bug #605002) and the buildds don't know what to do with "[linux-any]" in build dependencies either (bug #604981)
[18:45] <ScottK> geser: Thanks.  It needs to get fixed since Debian is using this.
[18:45] <ScottK> wgrant: Does ^^^ wait your sbuild update or is there more hope?
[18:46] <geser> the buildd fix probably just need deploying
[18:47] <shadeslayer> cjwatson: around?
[18:48] <geser> mhall119: I don't know of any possibility to do that
[19:19] <jasem> Hi, any issues with launchpad? tried to upload a package but no notification at all?
[19:21] <jpds> jasem: Do you mind if I PM you?
[19:22] <jasem> jpds: not at all
[19:27] <om26er> hi! I downloaded the gnome-disk-utility branch, changed debian/changelog added a patch in debian/patches and also a text entry for the name of the patch in debian/series after I did debcommit patch is not applied and the branch looks like this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu/lucid/gnome-disk-utility/gnome-disk-utility-fix-414107/revision/23 what am I doing wrong?
[19:28] <tumbleweed> om26er: did you bzr add the patch ?
[19:33] <ari-tczew> lool: libsmbios 2.2.26 already available in maverick. you can merge package in Debian.
[19:33] <ari-tczew> tumbleweed: thanks for sponsoring ^^
[19:33] <tumbleweed> ari-tczew: the package isn't in great shape
[19:33] <tumbleweed> but I think it's ok
[19:38] <lfaraone> Pyabiword is FTBFS in configure with "checking whether pythonstamp-autotools version >= 2.3... configure: error: too old". I have no idea what pythonstamp is, grepping for it in the source shows nothing, and googling for it only shows up the bug report I submitted to LP. What is this, exactly?
[19:41] <lfaraone> (when running ./configure on lucid, there is no mention of pythonstamp)
[19:49] <MichealH> What is MOTU?
[19:49] <lfaraone> !motu | MichealH
[19:50] <MichealH> Okay... So how would I package and upload toUniverse?
[19:51] <lfaraone> MichealH: well, is it a package that already exists in Ubuntu, or is it a new package?
[19:51] <shadeslayer> MichealH: you cant directly
[19:51] <shadeslayer> you need a sponsor :D
[19:51] <MichealH> And how would I sponsor or get a sponsor
[19:51] <lfaraone> MichealH: what shadeslayer said. but the way to seek sponsorship is different depending on which.
[19:51] <jasem> tried to upload a package to my ppa but got this in the email: The source libindi - 0.6.2-0ubuntu1 is already accepted in ubuntu/maverick and you cannot upload the same version within the same distribution
[19:52] <lfaraone> jasem: you need to give it a later version number.
[19:52] <BlackZ> hey lfaraone
[19:52] <lfaraone> hey BlackZ
[19:52] <jasem> lfaraone: why? I just make it 0.6.2, the one in ubuntu is 0.6.2 and I check launchpad also
[19:52] <MichealH> shadeslayer: How would I sponsor or "Get a sponsor?"
[19:52] <jasem> sorry, the one in maverick is 0.6.1
[19:53] <lfaraone> jasem: right, it needs to be gt that in maverick.
[19:53] <shadeslayer> MichealH: yep, if the package is already in ubuntu then you need a sponsor who will upload to the correct archive,if its a new package you will have to upload to revu to get your package reviewed
[19:53] <BlackZ> MichealH: is it a new package or an existing package?
[19:53] <lfaraone> jasem: did you already upload that version to the PPA?
[19:53] <lfaraone> BlackZ: already asked that :)
[19:53] <shadeslayer> hehe
[19:53] <BlackZ> lfaraone: I seen ;)
[19:54] <MichealH> BlackZ: I want to help by patching existing packages
[19:54] <MichealH> Or updating them...
[19:54] <BlackZ> MichealH: if it's an existing package please follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess ; if it's a new package please follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[19:54] <jasem> lfaraone: Yes, I tried to upload it to my ppa but I got that email message instead. I tried several times before that because there were no email messages at all.
[19:54] <lfaraone> jasem: check if it's in your PPA already :)
[19:54] <BlackZ> MichealH: well, so I think you should start to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted
[19:55] <MichealH> Ok
[19:55] <BlackZ> if you have any questions, just ask here
[19:55] <jasem> lfaraone: I checked a bazillion time! https://edge.launchpad.net/~mutlaqja/+archive/ppa
[19:55] <BlackZ> if somebody knows your problem and is around you will probably get an answer
[19:56] <lfaraone> jasem: odd. ask in #launchpad.
[19:56] <jasem> ok will do that
[19:57] <shadeslayer> ok.. im a bit confused, in https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop , where did the karmic release go ? 0_o
[19:58] <tumbleweed> shadeslayer: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop/+publishinghistory
[19:58] <shadeslayer> ah thanks
[20:04] <lfaraone> Hm... It looks like pyabiword's ./configure is being regenerated during the build. Damned if I can find out where. Anybody have an idea? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/maverick/pyabiword/maverick/annotate/head:/debian/rules
[20:04] <BlackZ> lfaraone: new version of pytrainer won't run, any suggestion on it?
[20:05] <lfaraone> BlackZ: what does it do when it doens't run, beside not run? :D
[20:05] <BlackZ> lfaraone: from command line I get some stuff, from the menù it simply does not run
[20:05] <BlackZ> s/menù/menu
[20:05] <BlackZ> let me find it, hold on
[20:06] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: I'm busy looking at it
[20:06] <BlackZ> lfaraone: try to apply http://launchpadlibrarian.net/51041026/pytrainer_1.7.2-1ubuntu1.debdiff on the debian package, install it and try to run it
[20:07] <lfaraone> BlackZ: right now I'm a bit swamped trying to un-foul-up pyabiword, or I would. :(
[20:07] <BlackZ> (if you could try with the debian package too, it would be nice)
[20:07] <BlackZ> OK, will try tonight
[20:10] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: I can tell you what the bug is, but not the fix
[20:11] <lfaraone> tumbleweed: yeah, I saw "PYTHON=pythonstamp-autotools" in the log , is that what you mean?
[20:11] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: the bug is that configure doesn't know about python2.6
[20:12] <tumbleweed> (I think)
[20:12] <BlackZ> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lmms/0.4.5-0ubuntu3 any idea on that? it FTBFS in the latest test rebuild: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi
[20:15] <mr_pouit> lfaraone: try not to the shipped python.m4 copy
[20:15] <mr_pouit> *not to use
[20:16] <tumbleweed> lfaraone: easy solution
[20:16] <tumbleweed> use the system python-autotools.mk instead of the embedded one
[20:16] <c_korn> will packages.ubuntu.com ever be updated to maverick ?
[20:17] <tumbleweed> good question, known bug :/
[20:18] <BlackZ> the solution is to mail the webmaster there
[20:18] <BlackZ> but I think a lot of people already did that
[20:18] <c_korn> I hope he is just busy and not that something bad happened to him
[20:19] <geser> BlackZ: try if adding "using namespace stk;" after the includes in the .h file fixes it
[20:21] <BlackZ> geser: I'll try, thanks
[20:37] <raywang> hi, for anyone who knows me, please take 1 min to write a comment or testimonials for me on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RayWang , I'm going to apply a ubuntu contributing developer, it's much appreciated!!! :-)
[20:38] <raywang> oops, it's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RayWang/UbuntuContributingDeveloperApplication
[20:39] <raywang> thanks a lot for anyone who has a little time to write on a comment on  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RayWang/UbuntuContributingDeveloperApplication for applying ubuntu contributing developer,
[20:40] <ari-tczew> raywang: I see no packages uploaded to Ubuntu on your LP page.
[20:41] <raywang> ari-tczew, well, they are from debian
[20:41] <raywang> ari-tczew, try to search mono-uia from packages.ubuntu.com
[20:41] <raywang> use source package name
[20:41] <raywang> ari-tczew, thanks for reading! :-)
[20:43] <ari-tczew> raywang: I'm already Ubuntu Contributing Developer so I can review your work whether you should be
[20:43] <tumbleweed> raywang: yes, you should probably link to your debian QA page
[20:43] <raywang> ah, ok, thanks, I'll do it.
[20:44] <ari-tczew>   * add licenses of debian/*.
[20:44] <ari-tczew> that's all?
[20:45] <raywang> ari-tczew, what?
[20:45] <raywang> I have changed my email address once
[20:46] <ari-tczew> raywang: I want see more your work.
[20:47] <raywang> yes, will provide my qa page shortly. :)
[20:47] <ari-tczew> at this moment you can get only -1 from me
[20:51] <raywang> ari-tczew, hehe I'm sorry
[20:51] <raywang> ari-tczew, here is my qa page, http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=rawang%40novell.com
[20:52] <raywang> ari-tczew, and this one is for another email address, http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=wanglei1123%40gmail.com
[20:52] <tumbleweed> raywang: without much evidence of ubuntu-packaging contributions, you might find it easier to get ubuntu membership through your regional membership board
[20:52] <ari-tczew> raywang: debian qa pages, nice, but you're going to _ubuntu_ contributing developer.
[20:53] <raywang> well, those packages that I plan to package for Ubuntu initially, but some developer suggested me to package for debian, and sync them to ubuntu
[20:54] <raywang> so for ubuntu qa page, there is not a link to my qa page :(
[20:55] <ari-tczew> raywang: and he good suggests you, but if you want to join Ubuntu Development environment, you should really contribute to ubuntu
[20:55] <BlackZ> raywang: the best way is to get them in debian for get them in ubuntu as well, what we are saying is to work on ubuntu packages (merges, bugfix, etc.)
[20:55] <ari-tczew> syncs, merges, security updates, ftbfs fixes
[20:55] <raywang> oh, i see
[20:58] <tumbleweed> raywang: yeah, contributing to debian is fantastic, but you intend to join MOTU and MOTUs work on lots of packages, not just their own
[20:59] <tumbleweed> so you need to show that you are actually doing that :)
[21:00] <raywang> yes, I'm more clear now, thanks all of you, I'll try my best to be more competent for being a ubuntu contributing developer
[21:00] <BlackZ> raywang: if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask here
[21:00] <raywang> I will be see you guys sooner or later again. :-)
[21:00] <raywang> sure, thanks a lot! :)
[21:51] <fabrice_sp> micahg, about #375196
[21:51] <fabrice_sp> bug 375196
[21:51] <fabrice_sp> it FTBFS
[21:51] <micahg> fabrice_sp: hmm, I tried it for Lucid, I guess I didn't try it for maverick, please unsubscribe sponsors and I will look into it
[21:52] <fabrice_sp> as you want: I just put it as incomplete
[21:52] <fabrice_sp> but I also can unsubscribe sponsors
[21:52] <micahg> fabrice_sp: oh, if that holds other people from wasting time on it, that's fine, thanks
[21:52] <fabrice_sp> yep
[21:52] <fabrice_sp> :-)
[21:52] <micahg> fabrice_sp: great, I'll try to get it fixed this weekend :)
[21:53] <micahg> fabrice_sp: sorry for the troube;l
[21:53] <micahg> *trouble
[21:53] <fabrice_sp> perfect ;-) as the number is quite old, few people will check it anyway :-)
[21:53] <fabrice_sp> np: it happens ;-)
[21:53] <micahg> the ITP was open for a long while and just hit sid
[21:54] <fabrice_sp> that's why the bug report is so old
[21:55] <micahg> fabrice_sp: I filed the needs packaging bug as soon as I started using it :)
[21:56] <fabrice_sp> more than one year ago, then :-)
[21:56] <micahg> yep :)
[21:56] <micahg> it's amazing how many bugs are filed in LP in 1 yr
[21:57] <sebner> micahg: amazing = depressing? ;P
[21:57] <fabrice_sp> yeah: that's why we are not able to close them all :-)
[21:57] <fabrice_sp> lol
[21:57] <micahg> well, at least the number is holding steady around 80-85k
[21:58] <micahg> that's progress, I think it was increasing 10k/release before
[21:58] <micahg> for open bugs
[22:03] <micahg> fabrice_sp: I wonder if it FTBFS in ubuntu and not debian because of the PHP update in sid?
[22:04] <fabrice_sp> it may be, yes. Anyway, only one test fails
[22:38] <ari-tczew> !SRU
[23:07] <BlackZ> geser: adding "using namespace stk;" after the includes fixed the FTBFS, thanks!


[12:22] <zelrik>  hello
[01:12] <BenC> mjg59: ping
[01:20] <mjg59> BenC: Hi
[01:20] <BenC> mjg59: You seem to be the right guy to talk to about usplash_write :)
[01:21] <BenC> mjg59: I have a script that is using INPUTENTER, and the second call doesn't seem to wait for an enter key...any ideas?
[01:21] <mjg59> I didn't write that code, I'm afraid
[01:22] <BenC> Ah, then the manpage is misleading
[01:22] <BenC> or maybe you're the author of the manpage
[01:22] <mjg59> Oh, I wrote the rest of it
[01:22] <mjg59> Just not the input stuff
[01:22] <BenC> ah
[01:59] <mdz> BenC__: I'm sure I"ve asked this before, but I don't remember...can I use either of the sets of prebuilt vmware modules with VMWare workstation?  if so, which one?  if not, what's my alternative?
[02:00] <lifeless> its the same modules for both workstation and server no ?
[02:00] <BenC__> mdz: Either -player or -server should work with workstation
[02:01] <mdz> BenC: I have the server modules installed, but can't get workstation to run
[02:01] <BenC> mdz: It's not simple getting it to use them though
[02:01] <mdz> vmware-config.pl tries to build the modules and fails (they don't compile)
[02:01] <BenC> mdz: is this workstation 5 or beta6?
[02:02] <mdz> BenC: 5
[02:02] <mdz> is it easier with 6?
[02:02] <BenC> mdz: No, but I have beta6 tarballs that build
[02:02] <BenC> you can probably snag the tarballs in lrm and put them in /usr/local/lib/vmware/modules/source/
[02:02] <mdz> I only have a license for 5
[02:02] <mdz> maybe it's time to try kvm
[02:03] <BenC> grep vmx /proc/cpuinfo
[02:03] <BenC> if that doesn't show anything you might as well use qemu
[02:03] <mdz> it doesn't (this is an amd64)
[02:03] <BenC> Oh, I forget what the amd64 flag is
[02:04] <mdz> open /dev/kvm: No such file or directory
[02:04] <mdz> Could not initialize KVM, will disable KVM support
[02:04] <BenC> but "modprobe kvm-amd" should only work if you support it
[02:04] <BenC> you have to load the module manually
[02:04] <BenC> and you'll need to add yourself to the kvm group to access /dev/kvm
[02:05] <mdz> doesn't load, oh well
[02:08] <BenC> qemu works pretty well
[02:09] <BenC> not sure what you are using it for, but I used it for some install/kernel testing
[02:35] <BenC> usplash seems to be just dieing when I use INPUTENTER
[02:42] <BenC> mjg59: is there an easy way to test usplash from command line?
[03:03] <mjg59> BenC: Easiest is to ssh in
[03:32] <BenC> confirmed...using any sort of input junk just fucks usplash all up
[03:32] <BenC> if it doesn't crash immediate, it will shortly after
[03:39] <mjg59> BenC: Probably some buffer overrun in there
[03:39] <mjg59> BenC: Tried valgrinding it?
[03:40] <BenC> not yet
[03:40] <pkl_> mdz: BenC: the am64 VT flag is svm ...
[03:46] <BenC> mjg59: valgrind doesn't show anything useful
[03:47] <BenC> I think it might just be the fifo getting closed
[03:51] <BenC> mjg59: Found it...close(fifo_outfd) gets called when fifo_outfd isn't initialized to anything know
[03:51] <BenC> betting it's closing random fd's
[03:55] <mjg59> BenC: Oh, urgh.
[03:55] <mjg59> BenC: It's in bzr - feel free to commit a fix :)
[04:01] <TheMuso> c
[05:01] <BenC> lol
[05:01] <BenC> char inputbuf[PIPE_BUF] ;
[05:01] <BenC> free(inputbuf);
[05:05] <mjg59> Oops.
[05:08] <BenC> This thing is whacked...usplash_write "INPUTENTER ..." doesn't block, but usplash does until it gets input
[05:11] <kylem> heh.
[05:15] <BenC> the broken part is that the outfifo doesn't get anything when INPUTENTER is used
[05:25] <BenC> yay, it's working
[05:28] <BenC> three bugs in one function
[05:32] <BenC> mjg59: Got the bzr url for usplash?
[05:32] <mjg59> Not to hand
[05:32] <mjg59> It's on Launchpad
[05:39] <BenC> sweet, the fixes give me working usplash stuff for driver-updates
[05:42] <mjg59> Win
[07:01] <fabbione> BenC: still around?
[08:22] <mdz> BenC: it's in ~ubuntu-core-dev I believe
[07:18] <pwnguin> BenC: toshiba-acpi appears to be fixed now
[07:18] <BenC> pwnguin: excellent, thanks for checking it
[07:18] <pwnguin> BenC: ive also noted this on launchpad.
[07:19] <pwnguin> (and removed it from my laptop testing page)
[09:50] <zul> BenC: quintela the redhat guy is having a hell of a time port Xen to 2.6.20 fyi
[10:05] <zul> later
[10:30] <nemro> erm
[10:54] <_MMA_> BenC: Can you still use the -lowlatency kernels in Edgy?
[10:54] <BenC> _MMA_: Current kernels have problems with older hal
[10:54] <_MMA_> :(
[10:55] <BenC> you can use it, but some things stop working (like inserted a CD or usb-storage drive wont auto-mount)
[10:55] <_MMA_> Ok. Ill let them know.
[10:55] <_MMA_> I have someone who wants to try it.
[10:55] <BenC> you could pull in the newer hal with the rest of the deps that feisty kernel needs
[10:55] <_MMA_> Thanx.
[10:55] <_MMA_> Ok.
[10:56] <BenC> hal, udev, module-init-tools, initramfs-tools
[10:56] <BenC> that should cover it
[10:56] <_MMA_> It should just do it right? As a depend?
[10:56] <_MMA_> The update.
[10:56] <BenC> kernel doesn't depend on too many things like it's supposed to
[10:56] <_MMA_> Well it mess with a Edgy kernel?
[10:57] <BenC> I can conflict with older hal, but then it might cause older hal to get removed, so I don't do it
[10:57] <_MMA_> If they go back that is.
[10:57] <BenC> not sure
[10:57] <_MMA_> Ok.
[10:57] <BenC> actually it does a little
[10:57] <BenC> initramfs-tools wont generate initrd's for edgy kernels
[10:57] <_MMA_> hmm...
[10:58] <BenC> I should probably fix that, so that might not be true for feisty release
[10:58] <_MMA_> Ok. I have a guinea pig but this might deter them.
[11:12] <lifeless> isn't there a DRI ABI incompatability across edgy <-> feisty ?


[06:39] <Kilos> hellooo africa
[07:11] <Kilos> hi philipballew
[07:34] <philipballew> Kilos, hey dude
[07:34] <Kilos> haha
[07:35] <Kilos> im too old to be a dude man
[07:35] <philipballew> how old are you?
[07:35] <Kilos> 64
[07:36] <philipballew> in ca, men and women of any age can be called dude
[07:36] <Kilos> thats why i get you young guys to help me achieve things
[07:36] <philipballew> ca = California
[07:36] <philipballew> We're here for you!
[07:36] <philipballew> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africa_Source
[07:36] <Kilos> ty i appreciate all the help
[07:37] <philipballew> Last Linux conference in Africa
[07:38] <Kilos> ill look just now, still mailing all the important peeps to see who can attend our first meeting
[07:38] <Kilos> if he wasnt so busy id ask mark to attend
[07:38] <Kilos> hehe
[07:38] <philipballew> i think it was in Uganda, so not in your part of the world
[07:38] <philipballew> Kilos, I saw mark in March and he seemed way too busy
[07:39] <Kilos> yeah he has a heavy schedule
[07:39] <philipballew> he is from your nation correct?
[07:39] <Kilos> but ill get someone from the cc or loco-council or so to visit
[07:40] <Kilos> yes he is one of ours homeboys
[07:40] <Kilos> our
[07:43] <elacheche> o/
[07:43] <Kilos> elacheche  morning
[07:51] <elacheche> wassup!
[07:52] <Kilos> whew you missed lots man
[07:52] <Kilos> QA  fb africa
[07:52] <QA> https://www.facebook.com/groups/494775420686780/
[07:53] <Kilos> and you have the twitter link i think
[07:55] <Kilos> and ive mailed the councils and boards to ask for some to attend our first meeting
[07:59] <elacheche> Great :)
[08:06] <Kilos> hi nizarus
[08:09] <nizarus> hello Kilos
[08:45] <Kilos> hi pieter2627
[08:46] <pieter2627> hi oom Kilos and the rest of africa
[09:26] <Kilos> hi popey  welcome to ubuntu-africa
[09:26] <popey> hello Kilos
[09:26] <popey> i thought I'd lurk in here (along with every other channel)
[09:27] <Kilos> you are welcome
[09:27] <Kilos> just dont get shocked when you see us share off topic stuff
[09:32] <popey> I am hard to shock.
[09:32] <Kilos> hahaha good
[09:33] <Kilos> also we have different language groups so at times i just lurk as well while they chat
[10:12] <Kilos> QA  coffee on
[10:12]  * QA starts grinding coffee
[10:16] <QA> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[10:16] <Kilos> QA  ty
[10:16] <QA> Only a pleasure Kilos
[15:07] <Kilos> hi septox
[15:07] <Kilos> and pabs3
[15:07] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-africa
[15:08] <pabs3> hi
[15:08] <pabs3> I mainly wanted to make folks aware of DebConf16 being in Cape Town, South Africa next year: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16/Bids/Cape_Town
[15:09] <Kilos> cool ty , one of the za guys is involved with arranging it
[15:09] <Kilos> our own superfly
[15:36] <pabs3> nice :)
[15:36] <pabs3> hope to see everyone there :)
[16:04] <Kilos> sorry loadshedding hit me
[18:14] <superfly> ohey pabs3
[18:14] <superfly> pabs3: I'm on the organising team
[18:26] <superfly> Kilos: I'm not going to be able to make it to the meeting. mrs_fly is going to a concert and I'm going to be looking after the kids.
[18:27] <Kilos> cool superfly  ty for letting us know
[18:27] <Kilos> hopefully ill get cc or other council peeps here too
[18:27] <Kilos> popey  is already here
[19:28] <Kilos> QA  coffee on
[19:28]  * QA flips the salt-timer
[19:30] <Kilos> QA  hurry
[19:30] <QA> My dear Kilos Making decent coffee is an art and should never be rushed!!
[19:30] <Kilos> inetpro  coffee time^^
[19:32] <QA> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[19:34] <Kilos> QA  ty
[19:34] <QA> Only a pleasure Kilos


[10:33] <sakrecoer> oh hey, there is this now!
[10:33] <sakrecoer> https://ubuntustudio.org/ubuntu-studio-installer/#audioconfig
[10:33] <sakrecoer> so maybe it _will_ work in my setup anyways! \o/
[17:03]  * Eickmeyer points and laughs at sakrecoer for not reading the release announcement or notes
[17:03] <Eickmeyer> :)
[17:03] <Eickmeyer> It has a bug though, and I can't get to fixing it today.
[17:03]  * Eickmeyer is very sick
[20:19] <gordonjcp> Eickmeyer: sorry to hear that, rest up and get well soon


[00:17] <Neo4> why know what is DNS server? I've read about BIND if I install it what I'll get?
[00:18] <genii> Headaches
[00:18] <sarnold> Neo4: there's three types of DNS servers: authoritative, recursive, and forwarding
[00:18] <sarnold> genii: lol +1
[00:18] <Neo4> what does do DNS server? it return IP  of servers
[00:19] <sarnold> Neo4: an authoritative server knows the IPs and names of specific services and so on
[00:19] <genii> Neo4: Basically, yes.
[00:19] <sarnold> Neo4: a recursive server knows how to start from the "root nameservers" and query each hierarchy of name servers to find an eventual answer to a question
[00:19] <Neo4> sarnold: ok
[00:19] <sarnold> Neo4: forwarding nameservers do not know how to query the roots, they just forward the question on "to the next nameserver", which *will* know how to answer the question
[00:19] <Neo4> in general what shall I get?
[00:20] <sarnold> Neo4: so which types of DNS server you need to run depend upon what services you want to offer
[00:20] <sarnold> Neo4: if you have clients on a LAN that want to look up hostnames like www.yandex.ru, then you would probably want to run a recursive or a forwarding server for your clients
[00:20] <Neo4> I will able put any domains to my DNS server? something like ns.my_fqdn
[00:21] <sarnold> Neo4: if you want to provide services to the world with your own names, you could run an authoritative server
[00:21] <Neo4> sarnold: I needn't any )
[00:21] <sarnold> yes
[00:21] <Neo4> just curious
[00:21] <sarnold> if you want to run your own name servers, you would register your name servers with your registrar ("glue records")
[00:22] <sarnold> Neo4: I strongly recommend powerdns instead of bind
[00:22] <sarnold> Neo4: other popular choices are knot and unbound
[00:22] <Neo4> sarnold: I want for test run one on digital ocean and overview all possibilities and settings )
[00:23] <sarnold> Neo4: if you set up a recursive server DO NOT MAKE IT PUBLIC
[00:23] <Neo4> on digital ocean popular BIND
[00:23] <sarnold> bind was the first and still very popular
[00:23] <sarnold> but they mix auth and recursive which has shown to be very dangerous
[00:24] <sarnold> i've read both bind and powerdns sources and I know which one I'd rather run :)
[00:24] <genii> unbound is fairly decent
[00:24] <sdeziel> I concur, unbound is an excellent recursor
[00:25] <sdeziel> I have yet to try powerdns but I think sarnold just convinced me ;)
[00:26] <Neo4> if I have my own DNS somewhere I can bind there domainname and ip address from digitalocean and not use a cname and other from digitalocean panel?
[00:26] <sarnold> powerdns folks also make a dns proxy, dnsdist -- during a recent round of dns DDOS attacks, folks with bind servers were able to servive by plopping dnsdist services in front
[00:26] <Neo4> it might be this functionality is DNS
[00:27] <Neo4> badly understand this notions
[00:27] <sarnold> Neo4: you need to get IPs and IP routing from somewhere..
[00:32]  * mason is a staunch BIND fan. Goes with the whole dinosaur thing. BIND and Sendmail forever!
[00:32] <sarnold> mason: let me guess, *real* sendmail, no m4 for you? :)
[00:32] <mason> No, I'm an M4 fan. In fact, I've had two customer issues come up recently where I got to spread the Sendmail love.
[00:33] <sarnold> hehe, that's greatdnl
[00:35] <mason> hah
[00:39] <nacc> rbasak: hrm, did you not see this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/26455183/
[00:39] <nacc> rbasak: makes the gpgv stuff ... unclear how to use. The manpage implies 2 is a fatal error
[00:43] <hashwagon> On 16.04 the man page for unattended-upgrade says /etc/cron.daily/apt initiates the upgrade process. Anyone know why /etc/cron.daily/apt isn't generating for me? Has anyone else seen this?
[00:53] <rbasak> nacc: I didn't see that in my testing. Perhaps you're using an older series than I di?
[00:53] <rbasak> nacc: if so it's still a valid problem though.
[00:54] <rbasak> Might be able to work around by providing the DSA public key too
[00:55] <sarnold> hashwagon: looks like it's a systemd timer thing now
[00:55] <sarnold> hashwagon: check out systemctl cat apt-daily-upgrade.service
[01:13] <genii> sarnold: What's wrong with real sendmail? It's simple and efficient!
[01:15] <sarnold> genii: "simple"? :) this is the first I've ever heard that word used with sendmail :)
[01:15] <mason> Monolithic, single binary, single process. Few moving parts.
[01:15] <mason> That it's self-aware is incidental.
[01:17] <sarnold> hehe
[01:49] <rbasak> sendmail.cf contains enough moving parts to make up for that.
[04:16] <MJCD> hey y'all, I want to set up bind or dnsmasq or some such thing
[04:16] <MJCD> and I want it to act as a dns cache
[04:17] <MJCD> which just looks up non-cached or out of TTL type thing
[04:20] <mason> MJCD: I like unbound for that sort of role.
[04:23] <nacc> rbasak: i was checking xenial-updates as a random test on bionic
[04:24] <nacc> rbasak: is the DSA public key available via a different keyring?
[04:24] <MJCD> mason, oooh
[04:24] <MJCD> let me google that
[04:25] <MJCD> ohhhh
[04:25] <MJCD> this looks great
[04:25] <MJCD> and its recursive
[04:29] <MJCD> yeah mason this is exactly perfect
[04:29] <MJCD> I can set upto 4 forward-addr
[04:30] <MJCD> which by default is already google dns
[04:30] <MJCD> brilliant
[04:30] <mason> MJCD: Good, glad you like it!
[04:30] <MJCD> thanks so much
[04:30] <MJCD> see y'all soon
[04:30] <mason> o/
[04:32] <nacc> rbasak: oh i see what i was doing wrong, i need to pass all the keyrings
[06:09] <gibking> hi guys
[06:09] <gibking>  i'm struggling with dhclient/ipv6 and wonder if i hit a bug or not
[06:10] <gibking> DHCP Client System: trusty server, 4.4.0-111-generic, isc-dhcp-client  4.2.4-7ubuntu12.10
[06:10] <gibking> host gets ip6 addr normally: "ip a s" inet6 2003:.../128 scope global valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[06:10] <gibking> but after some time (probably has something to do with lease-time?) the ip becommed depreffered
[06:10] <gibking> preferred_lft is set to zero and in syslog i can see: dhclient: PRC: Address 2003:... depreferred
[06:10] <gibking> but this  does also happen on 16.04 server
[06:11] <gibking> this is why i am not sure if its a bug or "working as designed"
[06:11] <gibking> does anybody know whats happening there?
[06:12] <gibking> RAs are beeing sent from the firewall and routes are refreshed normally.
[06:22] <Shmam> Hi, I'm trying to get crontab to work. I have the following: `@reboot and inside of run, there is a bash script with `#!/bin/bash and then it cds into a dir and starts a nodejs script. But it doesnt work for some reason. If I try to do `/home/sam/Documents/repo/run` as a regular user, it works fine.
[06:46] <cpaelzer> thanks nacc for the importer reset, AFAIK the missing versions were much older but I'll report next time I see something
[07:21] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:39] <cpaelzer> good morning
[08:12] <lordievader> Hey cpaelzer
[08:12] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[08:22] <cpaelzer> hi lordievader, doing good for now
[08:22] <cpaelzer> as soon as all I work on is built I'll face the wall of errors that I expect :-)
[08:53] <disposable2> i have a LXD profile that had limits.memory.swap set to false. I've changed that to true. do i need to restart my containers for that setting to have any effect?
[09:03] <cpaelzer> you can check if it directly applied via lxc config get <container> limits.memory.swap
[09:04] <cpaelzer> I pinged a few friends who should know the answer about the restart
[09:04] <cpaelzer> hopefully one shows up in a bit
[09:04] <cpaelzer> disposable2: ^^
[09:05] <disposable2> cpaelzer: thank you. i had tried the lxc config get before i asked but it doesn't return anything
[09:05] <disposable2> only an empty line
[09:05] <cpaelzer> for me as well, as soon as I set something it obviously retruns what  I set
[09:07] <cpaelzer> I wonder what it tweaks in cgroups - is it only per continaer swappiness?
[09:07] <cpaelzer> if so that would eb easy to check
[09:08] <cpaelzer> disposable2: yes that is it
[09:08] <cpaelzer> what is your /sys/fs/cgroup/memory/lxc/<container>/memory.swappiness
[09:09] <cpaelzer> switching this off/on seems to swicth that between 0 and 50
[09:09] <cpaelzer> so once you edited your profile from false to true, check if the value changed from 0 to 50
[09:09] <cpaelzer> disposable2: ^^
[09:10] <disposable2> cpaelzer: well, now that i've set it manually for all my containers, it says 50 for all the containers
[09:10] <cpaelzer> which is the value for "true"
[09:11] <disposable2> cpaelzer: yet, the ram is almost completely full and no swapping is happening. the host machine has vm.swappiness=60. hmmmmmm
[09:11] <cpaelzer> that is the global default value
[09:11] <cpaelzer> disposable2: and it will still swap only what it considers rather inactive
[09:11] <cpaelzer> if you e.g. have cold page cache that will be dropped first
[09:12] <cpaelzer> disposable2: if this is not your prod machine you can check if/when it would swap by using a mem eater keeping his memory hot and slowly increasing its size
[09:13] <disposable2> cpaelzer: thank you for taking the time
[09:13] <cpaelzer> stress-ng --vm-keep --vm 1 --vm-bytes can do that for you
[09:14] <cpaelzer> I had my share of fun with swap in the past and experience sharing is part of the open source spriti right :-)
[11:23] <soahccc> What would be the most sensible way to permanently change CPU scale governor? I found multiple ways: udev rule, sysfsutils (can't I use sysctl?) or just dump it into rc.local?
[11:30] <ahasenack> xnox: hi, about my ping yesterday about ocfs2-tools on s390x
[11:32] <ahasenack> xnox: I have an ocfs2-tools ftbfs upload stuck in excuses because the s390x tests fail. You filed https://github.com/markfasheh/ocfs2-tools/issues/22
[11:35] <ahasenack> I mean, my upload fixes the ftbfs :)
[11:35] <soahccc> I fixed my problem, turns out it was supposed to be on "ondemand" but system only has performance/powersave and it choose powersave as fallback
[11:43] <soahccc> But on the topic of that: who defines these scaling governors? system or cpu?
[11:46] <ahasenack> soahccc: have you tried cpufrequtils? (Sorry, didn't get the whole context)
[11:46] <ahasenack> and/or cpufreqd
[11:47] <soahccc> ahasenack: yea it's cpufrequtils (included in the image from the hoster) but they have ondemand in there but the new CPUs in our new servers don't have that
[11:48] <ahasenack> and cpufreqd? Can't you chose a governor there and it will set it every time it starts, i.e., at every reboot?
[11:49] <ahasenack> that being said, my artful system has this:
[11:49] <ahasenack>  /lib/systemd/system/ondemand.service:ExecStart=/lib/systemd/set-cpufreq
[11:49] <soahccc> there is no cpufreqd but I edited (and found it) in /etc/default/cpufrequtils
[11:50] <ahasenack> which runs /lib/systemd/set-cpufreq
[11:50] <soahccc> curiously there is a service "ondemand" which I guess should set governor to ondemand, no idea if I need that service for anything now
[11:50] <ahasenack> do you have that systemd file above?
[11:50] <ahasenack> maybe debug it, because it looks like it tries to do the right thing
[11:51] <ahasenack> FIRSTCPU=`cut -f1 -d- /sys/devices/system/cpu/online`
[11:51] <ahasenack> AVAILABLE="/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu$FIRSTCPU/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors"
[11:51] <ahasenack> check what you get for $AVAILABLE
[11:51] <ahasenack> I have:
[11:51] <ahasenack> $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
[11:51] <ahasenack> performance powersave
[11:51] <ahasenack> in a laptop, of course
[11:52] <soahccc> I don't have both of these files
[11:52] <ahasenack> not even the /sys/devices/system/cpu/..... one?
[11:52] <soahccc> and sys reports only two governors
[11:53] <ahasenack> is this xenial or what?
[11:53] <soahccc> performance and powersave (same as cpufreq-info says), xenial yes
[11:53] <soahccc> https://gist.github.com/2called-chaos/03263073f6d3ab83a9b9f72ee4a244f1
[11:53] <ahasenack> in xenial you have /etc/init.d/ondemand?
[11:54] <soahccc> yes, that's there
[11:54] <ahasenack> it's similar code
[11:54] <ahasenack> that is what is setting your governor
[11:55] <ahasenack> you need it to be set to performance?
[11:55] <soahccc> ahasenack: I assume it uses /etc/default/cpufreqinfo no? Because it was set to ondemand there and I guess it defaulted to powersave?
[11:55] <ahasenack> it does not
[11:56] <ahasenack> look at the script, it does not read /etc/default/cpufreqinfo
[11:56] <ahasenack>  /etc/default/cpufreqinfo must come from another package
[11:56] <soahccc> ahasenack: yeah and it has a comment in the file that it's from the hoster's installimage
[11:57] <soahccc> I haven't restarted the machine yet (I set it to performance manually) but here's where I changed it to performance: https://gist.github.com/2called-chaos/457ee50f08df3a1b25059bedb80ba234
[11:57] <ahasenack> I don't see a way in that /etc/init.d/ondemand script for it to set the governor to performance
[11:57] <ahasenack> it's either interactive, ondemand, or powersave. If your system supports neither, it exits without touching the governor
[11:58] <soahccc> I restarted ondemand service and it didn't change back
[11:58] <ahasenack> which package profides that file? dpkg -S /etc/default/cpufrequtils
[11:58] <ahasenack> provides*
[11:58] <ahasenack> and then check if the package has an initscript or something like that, with dpkg -L <name>
[11:59] <soahccc> no path found matching pattern /etc/default/cpufrequtils
[11:59] <soahccc> but I guess it's from cpufrequtils (same name)
[11:59] <ahasenack> makes sense
[11:59] <soahccc> i   cpufrequtils                                                  - utilities to deal with the cpufreq Linux kernel feature
[11:59] <ahasenack> look for an initscript in it
[11:59] <ahasenack> and then check if it reads /etc/default/cpufreqinfo
[11:59] <ahasenack> or just do grep /etc/default/cpufreqinfo /etc/init.d/*
[12:00] <ahasenack> could also be an upstart job. Then do grep /etc/default/cpufreqinfo /etc/init/*
[12:00] <ahasenack> and /lib/systemd/system/* for systemd
[12:00] <soahccc> yeah there is and it does :) mystery solved (no idea why ondemand is there though)
[12:00] <ahasenack> then that initscript should set it
[12:01] <ahasenack> the only other possible problem is if it comes before the ondemand initscript, as the ondemand one could override the changes
[12:03] <soahccc> I think the ondemand service is broken, the script reads AVAILABLE and DOWN_FACTOR variables, the latter doesn't exist
[12:04] <soahccc> But do I even need that service if there is apparently a different service doing the same thing?
[12:05] <ahasenack> it's part of the initscripts package, so you can't just remove it
[12:05] <ahasenack> you can disable it
[12:05] <ahasenack> if your cpufrequtils one comes after, though, there is no harm in keeping both
[12:22] <soahccc> ahasenack: haha these fools, they misspelled "govenor" variable, their script wouldn't do shit even if I had ondemand
[12:22] <ahasenack> which script? From ubuntu, or from your provider?
[12:22] <soahccc> from the provider :D
[12:22] <ahasenack> heh
[12:23] <ahasenack> well, mistakes happen
[12:23] <ahasenack> I'm glad you found out :)
[12:24] <soahccc> took us 2 weeks actually. we ordered new servers and our page got slower. we were like "okay, microcode update, PTI and slightly worse single core performance"... yesterday I imported 500 million records and the page was faster and we were like ._.
[12:41] <ahasenack> rbasak: hi, could you please (re)import gvfs into git? It's stale: bionic has 1.34.1-1ubuntu4, ubuntu/devel is at 1.32.1-0ubuntu1, and there is no bionic branch
[12:46] <rbasak> ahasenack: running
[12:46] <rbasak> We concluded that the importer had been stuck a while.
[12:47] <ahasenack> rbasak: when it breaks like that, it's really stuck, or crashed?
[12:47] <rbasak> I think Nish restarted it yesterday, but that's why it's behind on so many packages.
[12:47] <ahasenack> a crashing importer is easier to handle than a stuck one
[12:47] <rbasak> It hangs on talking to Launchpad
[12:47] <ahasenack> mh
[12:47] <rbasak> I think Nish also filed a bug to investigate where we need to fix the timeouts
[12:47] <ahasenack> yes
[12:47] <rbasak> I think it's within launchpadlib somewhere
[12:47] <ahasenack> https://bugs.launchpad.net/usd-importer/+bug/1745211
[12:48] <ahasenack> cpaelzer just pointed me at it
[12:48] <cpaelzer> at least our answers are in sync
[13:02] <eoli3n> any help on this would be very appreciated -> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/419104/what-is-partuuid-from-blkid-when-using-msdos-partition-table/419116#419116
[13:02] <eoli3n> please look at my comment of the answer
[13:03] <eoli3n> i'm trying to kickstart install without breaking existing win7 install
[13:03] <eoli3n> i'm not a end user, i need it as deploy tool
[13:03] <eoli3n> without any manual intervention
[13:05] <boxrick> I have had a few minor situations where 'atftp' package dies. Normally I would just use systemd and make sure the mode is restarted, or in the past used something like monit / runit to make sure the service stays up. So in the case of atftp it has an init.d script which is absorbed by systemd and ran. I would normally replace this, but is there a way of extending the option. So I can add a parameter like restart
[13:05] <boxrick> always ?
[13:05] <boxrick> Like a systemd extends for example
[14:04] <Odd_Bloke> boxrick: Is https://askubuntu.com/questions/659267/how-do-i-override-or-configure-systemd-services what you're looking for?
[15:40] <coreycb> jamespage: i got started on b3 deps for queens. here's the list of what remains: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26459041/ . i still have a few i'm wrapping up that aren't in that list.
[16:09] <ahasenack> Nivex: hi, autofs uploaded to bionic :)
[16:09] <Nivex> rock on!
[16:10] <Nivex> You want another easy one? :)
[16:12] <ahasenack> sure
[16:12] <Nivex> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/partman-iscsi/+bug/1641656
[18:41] <nacc> rbasak: sorry, i've been afk on nhouse stuff; did you want to sync today still?
[18:49] <rbasak> nacc: I'm tied up this evening now, sorry (not you - the team meeting running over and then hit my EOD)
[18:50] <nacc> rbasak: totally fine; i did get one test written that ensures we are using the right URL for the Release -> Sources lookup
[18:50] <nacc> rbasak: i'll see if the scripts are dtrt, and i'll put up a MP for you to look at and we can discuss further tests from there
[22:45] <sdeziel> is there a way to ask systemd to sanity check a given unit?
[22:46] <nacc> sdeziel: systemd-analyze verify <FILE> ?
[22:46] <nacc> sdeziel: per https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/3677
[22:47] <nacc> sdeziel: not sure how far you want the sanity checked :)
[22:47] <sdeziel> nacc: I'm looking for a tool that will sanity check a unit and any override snippets it may have
[22:47] <nacc> sdeziel: the above will only check the syntax, afaik
[22:49] <sdeziel> nacc: indeed and it doesn't check the $foo.service.d directories either
[22:49] <sdeziel> thanks anyway, I'll keep digging the various man pages
[22:49] <sarnold> ship it all to another system and try?
[22:50] <sdeziel> sarnold: I'm cooking a puppet module to let one drop some override snippets then trigger a service restart. The sanity check is to avoid the foot gun ;)
[22:51] <sarnold> puppet step number one .. spin up a new server somewhere ..
[22:51] <sarnold> hehe
[22:52] <sdeziel> https://memegenerator.net/instance/55819969/chuck-norris-meme-testing-is-for-wimps-real-men-test-in-production
[22:53] <sarnold> :)
[22:54] <Nivex> http://i1.wp.com/agilescout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/i-dont-test-my-code.jpg
[22:56] <sdeziel> wow, someone loved it enough to create this https://www.idontalwaystestmycode.com/
[23:04] <patdk-lap> I didn't know there was another way to test code
[23:06] <sdeziel> "systemctl daemon-reload" will catch any typo in the unit but it's then too late and the bad file will be deployed
[23:19] <ahasenack> nacc: I submitted https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=888463 to debian
[23:20] <ahasenack> tomorrow I might check what's really going on: why debhelper didn't catch that
[23:23] <nacc> ahasenack: what fille specifies ot upstream (e.g. requirements.txt) that ply should be used?
[23:26] <nacc> ahasenack: it should be generated by python3:depends, aiui
[23:27] <ahasenack> yeah, but it's not working. Not in ubuntu, nor in debian sid
[23:27] <ahasenack> something with bind's build system probably


[08:32] <loos> Hi guys, anyone have any idea why my live CD is giving me a horizontally skewed X display?
[08:32] <loos> I'm using 6.10 on a Macbook Pro
[08:35] <mjg59> Skewed in what way?
[08:35] <mjg59> We don't have any native graphics driver support for the MBP because ATI hate freedom
[08:42] <loos> I ran it over and over and now it worked :(
[08:43] <loos> skewed in the sense that instead of getting a white arrow as a pointer I get a white and black slash across the screen, when I move the pointer up it goes to the right then wraps around
[08:43] <loos> going up at an angle
[08:46] <mjg59> Hm. Sounds like a bug in the vesa driver.


 It's $12/yr for Google domains and it comes with DNS service that can be updated with a curl command.
 G-Domains is a really great service.
 Oh, you get a full domain as well.  Forgot to mention that.
 My google home shipped!  Should be here on Tuesday!
 I got ot
 You got G Home?
 Oh.
 Yeah, then you already know.
 Yep
 I never got the DNS stuff set though
 I got my zero lemon case for the s7
 Need a script to set DNS?
 Idk maybe
 @AdamOutler is it odd that I would put the Google Home in my bathroom?
 wget -qO -"https://DomainsProvidedUser:DomainsProvidedPass@domains.google.com/nic/update?hostname=adamoutler.com&myip=`wget -qO  - https://builds.casual-dev.com/scri … pts/ip.php`"
 copy that and change the DomainsProvidedUser:DomainsProvidedPass to whatever you have in Synthetic Records >view credentials after creating a dynamic dns record
 change the "hostname=adamoutler.com" to whatever domain you need to update
 I mean I'm just forwarding it to the IP of the server
 that's really easy.
 that's the main tab, domain forward
 yea I got it set up already
 so why did you need to set up DNS if you already did it?
 I guess I don't then
 ahhaha
 http://ubuntu-fl.org/
 you can do some subdomain stuff if you'd like.
 works like a charm
 you can set up a dynamic dns subdomain to your house.
 you could give everyone a subdomain actually.
 I don't really see the point tbh
 you'd just need to register it .
 I would like a statis IP for sshing into my home box
 adamoutler.ubuntu-fl.org could be my ubuntu stuff.
 would you like a email forward?
<EMAIL_ADDRESS> nah. i made<EMAIL_ADDRESS> k
 seriously, I have all the emails I need.
 k
 the release party is looking pretty good
 @mhall119 are you able to go?
 You better...
 What's the exact address?
 :O
 Crossroads of Lake Buena Vista, 12553 FL-535, Orlando, FL 32836, Orlando, FL
 👍
 @ahoneybun the 5th?
 @mhall119, Yup
 aka tomorrow
 I will need a list of those going for sure that are riding up by 5 PM tonight so I can plan the trip tomorrow
 I am planning to leave my house at 10 AM to pick up those who need it and head up.
 I seat 5 (4+Myself) and have plenty of room in the trunk
 He can stay 4 bodies in the truck
 Stow*
 Nah @Ivoriesablaze - I am not mad at you for what you did last time so you are allowed to ride in the front again
 I though we weren't taking about that
 Just use the newspaper next time and we will be cool
 😝
 ha
 I do need to vacuum the car out today - I took the dogs to the dog park the other day so I have a fresh coat of fur all over the car at the moment
 @govatent - did you find out if you have to work this weekend?
 And has anyone heard from @RazPi - I texted him the other day and have not heard back
 Yea. It's not  good weekend for me.
 :(
 When do you have to work?
 My wife is leaving town for 4-days and I had considered going, but I have so much work to do.
 I don't get paid by the hour, which means I work 24/7
 Well I work Sunday night. But I just got the keys to my new apartment yesterday. So I need to start moving in cause I leave the country next Thursday. So it's just bad timing.
 Not just work
 How much stuff do you need to move
 +1 me
 @AdamOutler, Neither do I for the record
 But I dont have the Kids to deal with so I cant give you too much of a hard time
 @ahoneybun what time? I have a friend's party tomorrow at 6pm
 Opps 5pm
 you'll be in kissimmee at 5, or the dinner is planned for 5?
 We will be there before
 how come no one kissimmee?
 @AdamOutler, I will leave that to @govatent
 Hey, he's going to be in town still, huh?
 ;)
 I guess more of a reason for him to come with us - especially as you have the house to yourself this weekend
 This would have been the perfect weekend to have you guys all  over.
 XD
 Lol
 I don't even know my moving plan yet.
 So no kisses for @AdamOutler
 Moving plan?
 @govatent - I dont mind helping a but, I got room in my trunk
 Alan is moving appartments
 Ah, I can help through optimism and prayer.
 Which, btw, is the new thing in security as well.  "Security through optimism and prayer"
 @AdamOutler, And encouragement of course
 Yep.
 My back is bad
 No lifting things for me.
 That seems like a valid security strategy, I should add that to my business plan
 https://lulzer.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/img_0222.jpg
[15:04] <maxolase1squad> Love it.
 I wish I had those speeds off my LAN.
 That is my OwnCloud server -> an Amazon storage bucket
 just called @RazPi , no answer
 He was on Telegram on Wednesday, just did not say anything
 well, looks like i get the back seat to myself 😁
 That's Keith's place.
 @SivaMachina - can you make it this weekend??
 I get off of work at 06:00.
 @Ivoriesablaze - I also sent a email to the mailing list in case anyone wants to ride up with us at all
 On Saturday? (AM or PM)
 Today at 6
 dammit, oh well
 What about the weekend?
 And @Ivoriesablaze - if you want, we can also pull a van up to @RazPi 's house, put a hood over his head and drag him up with us
 So far nothing. There is possibility I may have to stop by a food bank in the morning.  So long cushy back seat all to myself
 There will still be plenty of room
 Lol
 And since we are not going to Frys, we will have more space
 Hey! I don't bite much...or hard...
 WAIT!!! We MUST GO TO FRYS!!
 >.>
 Is Atlanta, GA far from Orlando?
 Damn, I just checked
 So assuming I have to go to the food bank tomorrow I should by ready by noon
 Yeah... if you don't mind driving 2 or so hours north
 @Ivoriesablaze - would you have a way to get to the Tri Rail station or do I need to come and get you?
 @SivaMachina, It is a bit more than 2 hours
 I have way too much to do on Monday or I would consider it
 Which is why I added or so.
 @SivaMachina bring an overnight bag, we should be back by mid-day on Sunday
 @Ivoriesablaze - Bring a week bag, it will be a long walk back - just kidding
 @KMyers, I was slready planing on bringing something to eat.
 I mean change into
 Whoa whoa, we have a fry's in Florida?
 Apperantly I am hungry or something
 No
 @Abrerr, I wish
 I've heard my bro describe one
 It's like, a retail wet dream.
 It is indeed
 We go every year to the one in Atlanta when we drive up to the Southeast Linux Fest inn North Carolina
 We plan to spend 2 hours in Frys and end up spending 4-5
 But @Abrerr - we were also told about another store in North Carolina that was AMAZING. The Grid
 It is ran by Goodwill but dedicated to electronics. You cant beat the prices
 Oh snap
 That sounds awesome
 @Abrerr, Yes - it sucks (at least thats what my wallet says)
 Have I ever said how much I hate Lantronix KVMs?
 Sorry about your wallet
 If I ever make it to Linux fest I'll check it out
 As long as I have room in my car, anyone is welcome to tag along
 I wanted to make the last one, but it just didn't line up.
 @KMyers I am not leaving my new car at a tri rail station
 You can always try Uber?
 Not asking you to Joel, just seeing if you can get a ride
 I'm sorry I won't make it guys. I really wanted to
 Heh, didn't think about lyft
 Does anybody think about Lyft?
 Lol
 Darn you missed the Uber deal
 @Ivoriesablaze
 Out of curiosity. How is this trip going to work for those of us straped for cash. other then the carpooling.... Sorry if I am being a bother...I tend to get anxious at times and over think things.
 Do you want and can go?
 Want yes. Can....my wallet says no
 @SivaMachina - Come along, you will be fine
 And @govatent - you are not too late
 Thank you. Just wanted to make sure before we left.
 Yes please come along


[20:59] <c7p> hello all, any author or editor available ?
[21:22] <Muscovy> I'm around.
[21:28] <c7p> hey Muscovy
[21:28] <Muscovy> Hello.
[21:28] <c7p> we are updating the content of get involved pages
[21:29] <c7p> i would like to learn what are you doing as an author through bazzar
[21:29] <c7p> should i clear it more ?
[21:30] <Muscovy> Hmm.
[21:31] <Muscovy> I'm trying to remember what about the page confused me when I first set up.
[21:31] <c7p> ah that would help also
[21:32] <Muscovy> A quick video of installing Tex would be great. That took me ages because I didn't understand the instructions.
[21:32] <c7p> i know :p same here
[21:33] <c7p> we are planning to make a video, it is necessary
[21:34] <Muscovy> I'd also like it if the pulling and pushing was at the bottom of the page, so all the setup stuff is together.
[21:35] <c7p> you mean how the pushing and pulling is done ?
[21:43] <Muscovy> Yeah.
[21:44] <Muscovy> Because that's the only part that people will probably come back to until they remember.
[21:44] <c7p> Muscovy: it isn't written in page so we will write this, actually that's i wanted to ask you
[21:44] <c7p> as an author you are only using push and pull write ?
[21:44] <c7p> right *
[21:44] <Muscovy> Basically.
[21:45] <Muscovy> Plus the occasional branch and merge.
[21:46] <c7p> Muscovy:  as an author you are pulling the latest revision you are pushing the work that you have done
[21:49] <c7p> Muscovy: i got to go, i will come up with the text for this section next time so we can talk about it
[21:49] <c7p> thanks ! :)
[21:49] <Muscovy> Alright.
[21:50] <c7p> bye


[00:00] <batkins61> But 2.0 doesn't provide for static IP address assignment, other than snippits, correct?  I require that, because I have to slot these servers into specific addresses.
[00:01] <roaksoax> batkins61: 1.9+ allos you to xonfigure the interface in 3 ways "auto-assign" which is mAAS picks an IP for you automatically and writes e/n/i for it
[00:01] <roaksoax> batkins61: "static" you can change the IP to what you want (and MAAS writes e/n/i)
[00:02] <roaksoax> batkins61: or DHCP, which means what ever ip address you can get
[00:02] <batkins61> When I tried to select "static", the menu refused to stick, and always reset to Unconfigured
[00:02] <roaksoax> batkins61: check the logs in /var/log/maas/*.log and see if there is an error
[00:03] <roaksoax> batkins61: when you are trying to change it as static
[00:05] <batkins61> After commissioning, the interface is set to auto assign.  I tried to change it to static, but it ignores that.  Setting to DHCP with snippits works, and the nodes commission and deploy
[00:05] <batkins61> I can ICMP ping them, but they refused connect on 22.
[00:06] <roaksoax> batkins61: i have not tested what you've done, but 'static' should work, and if it doesn't there must be an error going on
[00:07] <roaksoax> batkins61: it you could please look at /var/log/maas/*.log while setting the interface as static
[00:07] <roaksoax> batkins61: and if you could file  abug
[00:07] <batkins61> Ok, let me try again.
[00:07] <roaksoax> even better
[00:07] <roaksoax> so we can fix it
[00:19] <roaksoax> batkins61: did it work ?
[00:26] <pmatulis> roaksoax, hi, can we get the topic in this channel to point to the new doc site?
[00:39] <mup> Bug # changed: 1052870, 1237723, 1253940, 1272018, 1301833, 1304613, 1306372, 1308802, 1309593, 1311119, 1313580, 1313723, 1315071, 1317677, 1317978, 1326827,
[00:39] <mup> 1330762, 1340254, 1344125, 1350459, 1351247, 1352938, 1361673, 1361773, 1376395, 1386482, 1389033, 1389809, 1389852, 1392378, 1459441, 1462635, 1623598
[00:51] <mup> Bug # changed: 1379155, 1379636, 1390145, 1430129, 1430324, 1437221
[00:57] <mup> Bug # opened: 1379155, 1379636, 1390145, 1430129, 1430324, 1437221
[01:09] <mup> Bug # changed: 1379155, 1379636, 1390145, 1430129, 1430324, 1437221
[13:07] <mup> Bug #1629868 opened: times out because of no dbus <maas-ipv6> <cloud-init (Ubuntu):New> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629868>
[14:41] <mup> Bug #1629896 opened: [2.1] Deployment defaulting to hwe-16.04 instead of ga-16.04 <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629896>
[14:50] <mup> Bug #1629896 changed: [2.1] Deployment defaulting to hwe-16.04 instead of ga-16.04 <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629896>
[14:53] <mup> Bug #1629896 opened: [2.1] Deployment defaulting to hwe-16.04 instead of ga-16.04 <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629896>
[15:41] <mup> Bug #1629909 opened: [FFE] New upstream release MAAS 2.1 <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629909>
[15:56] <mup> Bug #1629915 opened: Specifying the default gateway in an interface different than the provisioning one does not work <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629915>
[15:56] <mup> Bug #1629909 opened: [FFE] New upstream release MAAS 2.1 <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629909>
[16:39] <ybaumy> hi. im using 2.1.0~alpha4+bzr5397-0ubuntu1~16.04.1 and now im having connection issues. the hosts are getting dhcp ipv4 addresses but then... http://imgur.com/a/7yWBT
[16:39] <ybaumy> and the commissioning fails
[16:40] <ybaumy> seems like the nodes are trying to use ipv6 addresses
[16:42] <ybaumy> 2016-10-03 18:07:42 [RegionServer,1,::ffff:<IP_ADDRESS>] Successfully configured DHCPv4 on rack controller '4y3h7n'.
[16:42] <ybaumy> 2016-10-03 18:07:42 [RegionServer,1,::ffff:<IP_ADDRESS>] Successfully configured DHCPv6 on rack controller '4y3h7n'
[16:51] <pmatulis> ybaumy, i'm getting something similar. commissioning fails due to DHCP
[16:51] <baldpope> ybaumy, does the network your handing out dhcpd leases from allow traffic through firewall to internet?
[16:52] <ybaumy> yes it does
[16:52] <ybaumy> the nat is configured on the ASA
[16:53] <ybaumy> at least on the maas server its working
[16:54] <pmatulis> ybaumy, whoah, weird. after rebooting my maas yet again my node has enlisted. that wasn't happening before
[16:56] <ybaumy> hmm i dont know whats going on. how do i disable ipv6 completly. im not using it anyways
[17:01] <pmatulis> ybaumy, no idea. but commissioning seems to be proceeding as normal now (for me)
[17:02] <ybaumy> hmm maybe i know what the problem is. my dns servers changed and the proxy log shows still the old ones. which file is used for the dns servers in maas
[17:03] <pmatulis> ybaumy, i noticed when i was in a broken state the logs where showing that the rackd and regiond had lost connectitivy
[17:03] <pmatulis> this was also reflected in the web UI
[17:03] <pmatulis> yup, my node is in the 'Ready' status now
[17:32]  * baldpope sigh
[17:32] <baldpope> is there a current doc for deploying openstack/autopilot ?
[17:33] <baldpope> the one listed on ubuntu's site appears out of date with the current UI
[17:47] <HeOS> Hello! Could you say me, how can I debug a situation, when maas can't connect to SuperMicro's BMC?
[17:47] <HeOS> I see, that mass got an IP-address of the BMC, but it can't operate by power actions on the server.
[17:49] <HeOS> I've tired to run ipmitool on the controller, it works, I can connect to the server and operate it, but MAAS can't.
[17:56] <mup> Bug #1629868 opened: times out because of no dbus <maas-ipv6> <MAAS:New> <cloud-init (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629868>
[17:56] <mup> Bug #1629868 changed: times out because of no dbus <maas-ipv6> <MAAS:New> <cloud-init (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629868>
[17:57] <kiko> HeOS, that's odd -- what happens when MAAS tries to connect?
[17:58] <HeOS> kiko, when I add my credentials there, then I see the following error: "Connection timed out while performing power action. Check BMC configuration and connectivity and try again. "
[17:58] <HeOS> I don't see nothing in the maas' logs.
[17:58] <kiko> HeOS, I guess the first question I have is why hasn't auto-enlistment work for you?
[18:00] <HeOS> auto-enlistment is working, I see credentials there, but maas can't power on, for example, my server. So, my question is the following: how can I figure out why it's happened?
[18:01] <HeOS> kiko, I don't know, what I should to do. :(
[18:02] <kiko> HeOS, is there an IP address problem on the rack/cluster controller?
[18:02] <kiko> i.e. is it using the wrong IP address to connect?
[18:02] <kiko> HeOS, there will be something in /var/logs/*
[18:03] <HeOS> kiko, I can connect to the IPMI's ip-address from the controller by using ipmitool, it works.
[18:03] <kiko> HeOS, the question is how does it fail?
[18:03] <kiko> and the logs can tell us
[18:04] <HeOS> kiko, I'm using the following version: 2.0.0+bzr5189-0ubuntu1.
[18:04] <HeOS> kiko, what a kind of logs can help?
[18:05] <mup> Bug #1629868 changed: times out because of no dbus <maas-ipv6> <MAAS:New> <cloud-init (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629868>
[18:05] <kiko> HeOS, /var/log/maas/* on the controller should help
[18:06] <HeOS> There are two files: maas.log rackd.log.
[18:08] <kiko> yep, look through those when attempting to boot the machine
[18:08] <kiko> i.e. sudo tail -f /var/log/maas/*
[18:08] <mup> Bug #1629868 opened: times out because of no dbus <maas-ipv6> <MAAS:New> <cloud-init (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629868>
[18:08] <HeOS> I'm going to repeat my actions right now to get all related information from the logs. :)
[18:10] <kiko> thanks!
[18:13] <HeOS> kiko, I see only this files changed: http://paste.openstack.org/show/584061/.
[18:13] <kiko> HeOS, what did tail -f show when you clicked the button?
[18:13] <kiko> that file isn't very useful
[18:14] <kiko> roaksoax, blake_r, mpontillo: any hint as to what could be wrong above?
[18:14] <mup> Bug #1629868 changed: times out because of no dbus <maas-ipv6> <MAAS:New> <cloud-init (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629868>
[18:17] <mup> Bug #1629868 opened: times out because of no dbus <maas-ipv6> <MAAS:New> <cloud-init (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629868>
[18:19] <HeOS> kiko, what a button should I click?
[18:19] <HeOS> Do you mean the "Save" button in the IPMI-related config?
[18:21] <HeOS> No new information in the logs.
[18:21] <HeOS> I only see "Power error check now" message in the MAAS UI.
[18:22] <kiko> that's what we want
[18:22] <HeOS> kiko, can I enable more informative log level for the tool?
[18:24] <kiko> HeOS, you see nothing in the logs?
[18:24] <kiko> that's so strange
[18:25] <blake_r> HeOS: MAAS uses ipmipower to power control the machine, try that versus using ipmitool
[18:25] <HeOS> kiko, yes, I'm.
[18:25] <HeOS> BMC-related information: http://paste.openstack.org/show/584065/.
[18:38] <HeOS> blake_r, kiko, thanks, looks like ipmipower or BMC related problem. I'll try to inve
[18:38] <HeOS> *investigte it.
[18:40] <kiko> HeOS, thanks -- it's odd
[18:41] <baldpope> HeOS, i'm using supermicro mobo with maas - power control works fine - what's going on
[18:45] <baldpope> kiko, is there a newer doc for deploying openstack via maas/autopilot?
[18:45] <kiko> baldpope, it's called conjure-up :-) let me find a doc
[18:45] <kiko> http://conjure-up.io/
[18:46] <baldpope> kiko, looks cool
[18:46] <kiko> baldpope, however, note the "preview release"
[18:46] <baldpope> does this replace the work with juju?
[18:46] <kiko> well, it drives juju
[18:47] <kiko> but through a very nice front-end
[18:47] <baldpope> my mistake
[18:47] <baldpope> do you still need to go through the prep with maas - re: discover/commission of the new blades?
[18:48] <kiko> baldpope, yep
[18:48] <kiko> the entire stack depends on MAAS doing what it needs to
[18:49] <baldpope> k - stupid question - i wiped and re-installed my maas box - i noticed on the 16.04 install, an option for maas / rack controller install option
[18:49] <baldpope> versus the standard ubuntu install
[18:50] <baldpope> if the end results is intended to be a maas box, should I pre-select the appropriate install, or am I fine with installing via apt - post system install
[18:53] <kiko> baldpope, it doesn't really make that much difference.
[18:54] <kiko> baldpope, the maas install just leaves the machine with maas preinstalled
[19:02] <mup> Bug #1629972 opened: networking stop incorrectly disconnects from (network) root filesystem <maas-ipv6> <MAAS:New> <ifupdown (Ubuntu):New for lamont> <ifupdown (Ubuntu Xenial):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629972>
[19:05] <HeOS> baldpope, looks like, I have old version of the IPMI's firmware.
[19:05] <baldpope> HeOS, i had firmware issues with ikvm - supermicro support was reasonable in getting me an updated one
[19:10] <HeOS> Yay, it works, when I use the following command: ipmipower --workaround-flags=nochecksumcheck,noauthcodecheck -h <host> -u <user> -p <pass>
[19:41] <mup> Bug #1629982 opened: [2.1] After upgrade from 2.0 to 2.1, iscsi cannot be updated. <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1629982>
[20:37] <baldpope> yo kiko , for maas-oath - should use the api key?
[20:37] <kiko> baldpope, I think the answer is yes?
[20:38] <baldpope> you guys are killing me with being unable to paste the api key
[20:42] <kiko> baldpope, what do you mean?
[20:42] <kiko> baldpope, the API key in the MAAS web UI can't be pasted?
[20:43] <baldpope>  copy the api key from web ui, attempt to paste in conjure-up (also through openstack-install) , paste no work
[20:44] <baldpope> quit conjure, and I can paste in the putty terminal
[20:46] <baldpope> actually, maas-oauth must be looking for something different, because conjure doesn't prompt for a username, just the maas-server and maas-oauth
[20:47] <stokachu> baldpope: did you try shift+insert
[20:47] <stokachu> to paste in putty
[20:48] <baldpope> i did not stokachu , i'll try that
[20:49] <kiko> stokachu, baldpope has a point though, does the token include the user information in it?
[20:49] <stokachu> its just the api key you get from your accounts page
[20:49] <stokachu> you dont enter a username or anything
[20:49] <baldpope> http://imgur.com/W4TNZF1
[20:49] <baldpope> ok, i'll try again
[20:50] <kiko> so the key is globally unique
[20:50] <kiko> ok :)
[20:50] <baldpope> shift insert worked, ty stokachu
[20:50] <baldpope> that shit was driving me nutz
[20:50] <stokachu> yea shift+insert is not well known for some reason
[20:50] <stokachu> but it's what i always use
[20:51] <baldpope> i've always just used right click
[20:51] <stokachu> baldpope: yea that won't work with the ncurses stuff we're doing
[20:52] <baldpope> appreciate the tip - you know how many times I've had to type that api key out
[20:52] <stokachu> yea :( i know your pain
[20:52] <baldpope> almost enough to make me ditch and go to virtual pc ;)
[20:52] <baldpope> or hyper-v
[20:52] <baldpope> hah
[20:54] <baldpope> ok, after putting in maas server ip, and api key and clicking add credential, i get an error - unable to find home/user/.local/share/juju/accounts.yaml
[20:57] <baldpope> http://imgur.com/93nzldG
[21:23] <baldpope> odd, i removed the log file and ran again, worked this time - odd...
[21:23] <baldpope> i'm at deploying openstack-base
[21:30] <baldpope> also, not sure if it's supposed to have or not, but the public key tied to my user in maas did not got applied to the ubuntu account during the initial deployment when running conjure-up
[21:30] <baldpope> the assumption is that it should have?
[21:47] <cmart> Does anyone know how to get MAAS to release an IP address which was previously statically auto-assigned to a node, but that node has been deleted?
[21:52] <roaksoax> cmart: yes
[21:53] <roaksoax> cmart: hwen you delete a node it should delete all ip addresses owned by that node
[21:54] <cmart> I don't think that happened. My Subnet view in the web interface shows that the IP address is owned by "MAAS". Usage "Unknown", Interface "Unknown", Type "Static". I'm looking for a way to remove this entry in both the GUI and the CLI, and coming up short.
[21:55] <cmart> I'm only trying to re-use the IP address. MAAS won't let me statically assign it to a node, says that it conflicts with an existing IP.
[21:58] <cmart> roaksoax: "IP address is already in use."
[22:00] <roaksoax> cmart: that seems like a bug
[22:00] <roaksoax> cmart: can you please file a bug and point me to it ?
[22:13] <PCdude> hey all :)
[22:13] <PCdude> I have some questions about openstack, to prevent myself from spamming this IRC channel, I have put it in an askubuntu question
[22:13] <PCdude> http://askubuntu.com/questions/832736/openstack-with-autopilot-some-networking-clear-up
[22:13] <PCdude> Some are MAAS specific therefore I post it here
[22:34] <mup> Bug #1630034 opened: Cannot re-use static IP address <maas-cli> <ui> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1630034>
[22:34] <cmart> ^ roaksoax ^ as requested :) Thanks so much for taking a look.
[22:51] <cmart> roaksoax I pasted the output of a couple SQL queries as a comment. I'm thinking of just deleting the row in maasserver_staticipaddress
[23:24] <roaksoax> cmart: thank you for filing, we will inviestigate that
[23:28] <cmart> roaksoax: more detail in the comments, but I worked around/resolved the issue for myself
[23:29] <roaksoax> cmart: great! thank you!
[23:29] <cmart> by deleting the static IP from the database. it's not a great solution (doesn't identify the root cause of how the address got in that state), but got me past the problem.
[23:31] <roaksoax> cmart: you could have tried doing it via the webui :)
[23:31] <cmart> I did, there was no way that I could find to delete it. I tried all I could in the web UI and API before touching the DB directly.