[01:42] <phillw> hmm net split :)
[11:50] <jtaylor> why isn't eatmydata used for testbed preparation?
[11:50] <jtaylor> makes it much faster for me and still seems to work
[12:04] <jtaylor> can someone with an intel cpu pastebin proc/cpuinfo in the testbed
[17:13] <dlbike76> Hi, any lbuntu testers around today?
[17:14] <dlbike76> ^^^ are we testing the same apps this cadence week as for main?
[17:18] <dlbike76> Hi, any lbuntu testers around today?
[17:18] <dlbike76> ^^^ are we testing the same apps this cadence week as for main?
[18:17] <dlbike76> Sorry for the double post earlier.
[18:53] <dlbike76> Hi is there a testcase for the lubuntu software center?
[19:02] <dlbike76> phillw: ping
[19:03] <phillw> dlbike76: hi, there is not one written yet
[19:04] <phillw> LSC has a rather bad bug, but needs a dev to sort it out. Julien simply does not have time :(
[19:05] <dlbike76> phillw: Okay, another question.  I'm not seeing anything listed in software center in lubuntu.
[19:05] <dlbike76> ahhh okay.  So it is a known bug?
[19:05] <phillw> yes, it's a killer bug :(
[19:06] <dlbike76> Are we using the automatic packing testing and raring-proposed?
[19:07] <phillw> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-software-center/+bug/1078820
[19:08] <phillw> any packages that are shared with ubuntu may have test cases written. AFAIK, there are no auto package tests for lubuntu specific things. I'm still writing test cases for lubuntu ones for manual testing. I've not made a start on automated testing.
[19:10] <dlbike76> I really like the idea of the auto testing.  Unfortuately my main machine is too slow for it!
[19:10] <dlbike76> Well technically not too slow...  too little memory...
[19:11] <dlbike76> Thank goodness for Lubuntu and it's low resource requirements.
[19:13] <phillw> If I can get 13.04 (any of them) to work in KVM it would be a help to me :/
[19:14] <phillw> one of the ubuntu+1 team has put it on his TODO list and have a look at the bug.
[19:18] <dlbike76> Yeah i've noticed problems with 13.04 desktop on my wife's machine due to the Nvidia drivers (assumedly...)
[19:18] <phillw> dlbike76: I'll have a chat with balloons and get my current lubuntu test cases moved from the sandbox area to the public area so people can use them :)
[19:18] <dlbike76> Or if you could point me to the sandbox area then I would look there for them.
[19:19] <dlbike76> I plan to ask before submitting testcase related bugs since I'm new to testing.
[19:20] <dlbike76> I sortof wish that the testcases were broken into smaller pieces.
[19:20] <dlbike76> As it is now, the livecd test is all or nothing.
[19:21] <phillw> the application test cases are 'bite' size... I'm just trying to find the page!
[19:27] <dlbike76> Also where are instructions for submitting hardware profiles?
[19:27] <phillw> hmm, my testcases seem to have moved from where they were....
[19:30] <phillw> dlbike76: hardware profiles are held at https://friendly.ubuntu.com/
[19:30] <phillw> if your machine is not listed, then click on the 'participate' link and send one in :)
[19:33] <phillw> *note to self* add my machine for 12.10 :)
[19:33] <dlbike76> Thanks.  I had submitted my laptop to friendly.ubuntu.com, but had forgotten about the site...
[19:33] <dlbike76> Does the site work well for custom built machines?
[19:35] <phillw> my laptop build is on the 12.04, but not 12.10. The hardware build should be fine for custom machines, the tester doesn't know what a custom machine is... each machine is custom (by the manufacturer :) )
[19:36] <dlbike76> yeah... :-) I think what I was asking was whether you could search at the component level.
[19:38] <phillw> the LJ series (similar to mine) is shown at https://friendly.ubuntu.com/12.04/Packard%20Bell/EasyNote%20LJ65/I:Bn4Hmp:gI:BHe:I4:BEfi:BLp:CH:I8g:BQ8:I8g/devices/ That gives you an idea of what it will pull in.
[19:38] <dlbike76> When will 13.04 be added to friendly.ubuntu.com?
[19:38] <phillw> after the release, I would guess.
[19:39] <dlbike76> That probably makes the most sense.
[19:40] <phillw> those pesky devs keep changing things until launch date :P
[19:41] <dlbike76> I really like the new idea of raring-proposed.
[19:42] <dlbike76> I'm guessing it's a similar idea to sid/testing/stable...
[19:47] <dlbike76> Are there any plans to add support for the xubuntu/lubuntu/edubuntu etc to ubuntu friendly program?
[19:51] <dlbike76> phillw: Do you know if there has been any progress on bug 1029212?
[19:54] <phillw> the bug seems to still be active. Just a case of time being found to sort it.
[19:56] <dlbike76> Okay.  I had submitted a backtrace, don't know if it helps or not.
[19:59] <dlbike76> Just noticed that the wallpaper defaults to tile instead or stretch in 1280x1024 mode on current lubuntu daily.
[19:59] <dlbike76> ^^ any known reports about that one?
[20:12] <phillw> I've not seen any bug report, so file a new one against lubuntu-artwork (Rafael can then check settings out).
[20:22] <Noskcaj> is ubiquity meant to be a block in shape?
[20:23] <Noskcaj> it would appear compiz crashed
[20:30] <phillw> Noskcaj: I cannot get any 13.04's to run in KVM... Let me install virtual-box and see if that works.
[20:30] <Noskcaj> ok
[20:44] <Noskcaj> phillw, i wont report  a bug until someone confirms but the installer becomes a rectangle and you can type anything
[20:44] <Noskcaj> it might only affect ubuntu i386
[20:51] <dlbike76> phillw: I opened bug 1090795 for what we discussed earlier.
[20:56] <phillw> I got it by email (all bugs that can affect lubuntu are sent to me :) )
[20:56] <Noskcaj> phillw, rectangle bug seems to happen randomly, i cant get it to repeat
[21:00] <phillw> I have got virtual-box installed, so I'll have a play in a while (I'm just helping xy setup a VM on his dedi server).
[21:02] <Noskcaj> phillw, saw that. have you got testdrive as well?
[21:03] <phillw> nope
[21:03] <Noskcaj> you should, its so useful
[21:04] <Noskcaj> easier zsync, VM auto-config
[21:37] <phillw> Noskcaj: as I use KVM on my dedi, it makes sense to me that I use it on my local machine as well.
[22:25] <Noskcaj> phillw, yes it does make sense, but testdrive works with KVM as well


[06:29] <shadowknight> hello ~~~
[06:31] <shadowknight> any one can use l7-filter on ubuntu server 10.10 ?
[06:31] <shadowknight> Is it unsupport the Kernel 2.6.35 right ?


[07:47] <dholbach> good morning
[15:24] <philipballew> akgraner, Know any place I can grab a Linaro sticker?
[15:24] <akgraner> I might have some  - let me check.
[15:25] <akgraner> If not I can some - how many do you need/want?
[15:26] <philipballew> I do need too many. Was wanting to bring some to my Ubuntu meetups
[15:29] <philipballew> I saw your post about going to Hong Kong a few days ago. Hope you are able to et rested as well akgraner
[15:30] <akgraner> I was...I love Hong Kong!
[15:30] <akgraner> We'll be in Dublin in  July and not sure of the US location yet
[15:31] <akgraner> I don't have any here it seems but I need to get some more - let me order them and as soon as I get some I'll send you some - can you email me your address
[15:31] <philipballew> yeah, ill shoot it your way. I have never been to Hong Kong so that is fun!
[15:31]  * philipballew hears San Diego is good at hosting conferences...
[15:42] <rickspencer3> hi all
[15:42] <rickspencer3> I did a write up of the Techboard meeting yesterday
[15:43] <rickspencer3> I was wondering if anyone here might want to use it
[15:43] <akgraner> rickspencer3, link
[15:43] <rickspencer3> I can pastebin it in case anyone wants to take a look
[15:43] <rickspencer3> hi akgraner
[15:43] <rickspencer3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5628463/
[15:43] <akgraner> rickspencer3, please and I'll take a look - do you want it added to the Fridge?
[15:44] <akgraner> rickspencer3, hey! and thanks - I'll take a look.
[15:44] <rickspencer3> akgraner, well, I thought I could just donate it you all, and you can do with it as you please
[15:44] <rickspencer3> I wrote it for my blog, initially
[15:44] <philipballew> I can add that to the weekly newsletter rickspencer3.
[15:44] <rickspencer3> so you may need to edit it slightly
[15:44] <akgraner> rickspencer3, alrighty then - consider action passed action completed :-)
[15:45] <akgraner> rickspencer3, I'll tweak as necessary and then let you review it before I publish
[15:45] <rickspencer3> sounds good akgraner
[15:45] <rickspencer3> I put in some links at the bottom
[15:46] <rickspencer3> just let me know if you have questions, etc...
[15:46] <akgraner> rickspencer3, will do
[15:46]  * philipballew sees that the great akgraner has everything under control here.
[15:46] <rickspencer3> hi philipballew :)
[15:47] <philipballew> howdy rickspencer3 , hope you have a good rest of your morning and day.
[15:47] <akgraner> philipballew, it's only smoke and mirrors :-)  I just need to take a break from something else for a few and looking at this is a cool way to do that. :-)
[15:47] <rickspencer3> :)
[15:48] <philipballew> akgraner, Seems like a good idea. Breaks are good. Hurts my brain to stare at something for too long.
[15:51] <akgraner> :-)
[19:17] <akgraner> rickspencer3, just sent you the gdoc to review
[19:17] <rickspencer3> thanks akgraner
[19:18] <rickspencer3> akgraner, in the meantime, I saw that Elizabeth Krumbach	has pinged the techboard
[19:18] <pleia2> btw, I reached out to the TB about a summary from their meeting, I'll be posting it to fridge in a couple hours
[19:18] <rickspencer3> hi pleia2
[19:18] <rickspencer3> sorry, didn't see you there :)
[19:18] <pleia2> oh, is there another post being drafted?
[19:18] <akgraner> pleia2, sharing the link with you now
[19:19] <rickspencer3> pleia2, sort of, I wrote up a summary this morning, but it seemed more "newsy" then something I would normally put on my blog
[19:19] <akgraner> pleia2, yep rick sent me one
[19:19] <rickspencer3> so I donated it here
[19:19] <pleia2> oh dear
[19:19] <akgraner> but take a look and see if it hits all the basis you were looking at
[19:19] <akgraner> just shared it with you
[19:19] <pleia2> let me gdoc the one I got from the TB
[19:19] <akgraner> drop in on the bottom of the one I sent you and I'll combine them
[19:20] <rickspencer3> pleia2, it's fine, I don't mind
[19:20] <rickspencer3> whatever works
[19:20] <pleia2> akgraner: oh ok
[19:20] <pleia2> akgraner: I'd rather not alter the text that came directly from the TB
[19:21] <akgraner> pleia2,  ok  let's see how we can use them both
[19:21] <pleia2> added it to the bottom of the doc
[19:21] <rickspencer3> akgraner, I've got to take a break, sorry
[19:21] <rickspencer3> can I check back in 2-3 hours?
[19:21] <rickspencer3> akgraner, feel free to publish whatever you wish
[19:21] <akgraner> rickspencer3, no worries your thang
[19:21] <akgraner> do your thang I meant
[19:21] <pleia2> yea, that's when I'll have time to post anyway, I told the TB I'd give them 2 hours in case anyone else wanted to add text
[19:22] <rickspencer3> what the heck
[19:22]  * rickspencer3 looks
[19:23] <akgraner> so how about we post Rick's now - then the TB's
[19:23] <pleia2> I like rickspencer3's explanation of how this impacts the users
[19:23] <pleia2> I think it's important to post the TB one first
[19:23] <pleia2> then his as a follow up "what this means for you"
[19:23] <akgraner> nods
[19:24] <akgraner> rickspencer3, as you can see I tweaked yours :-)
[19:24] <rickspencer3> akgraner, shall I just add comments?
[19:25]  * skellat indicates he can do a special episode of The Burning Circle if need be and have rickspencer3 on for a telephone interview to get this out in audio
[19:25] <akgraner> rickspencer3, just make your changes :-)
[19:26] <akgraner> pleia2, once we get rickspencer3 ack'd  - I'll let you publish them  - how's that?
[19:26] <pleia2> akgraner: ok
[19:26] <rickspencer3> akgraner, so, during the meeting, folks felt that the term "rolling release" is "loaded"
[19:27] <rickspencer3> so they carefully constructed language to avoid that
[19:28] <akgraner> yeah I read that which is why attributed the term to you :-) so people could reference your hangout (maybe I should add the link)
[19:28] <akgraner> :-)
[19:28] <akgraner> but we can change it
[19:28] <rickspencer3> akgraner, I think the first mention is good
[19:28] <rickspencer3> but I edited it out later
[19:28] <akgraner> cool beans
[19:29] <rickspencer3> akgraner, ok, I'm done
[19:29] <rickspencer3> akgraner, pleia2, skellat I'm always happy to help if I can
[19:30] <rickspencer3> just ping me in the future if there something that I can contribute to news
[19:30] <pleia2> thanks rickspencer3!
[19:30] <akgraner> rickspencer3, thank you!
[19:30] <rickspencer3> so long as I can go get some lunch now!
[19:30] <rickspencer3> :)
[19:30] <rickspencer3> ttyl
[19:30] <akgraner> rickspencer3, go eat!
[19:30]  * rickspencer3 autojoins #ubuntu-news
[20:59] <pleia2> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/03/19/changes-in-ubuntu-releases-decided-by-the-ubuntu-technical-board/ \o/
[21:00] <pleia2> getting rickspencer3's post prepped now
[21:01] <SilverLion> evening pleia2
[21:01] <SilverLion> hope you are doing well!
[21:01] <pleia2> rickspencer3: what title for you should I use for the citation?
[21:04] <pleia2> nm, it's in the article :)
[21:08] <pleia2> ok, it's published too http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/03/19/ubuntu-technical-board-looks-at-shuttleworths-proposal-for-release-management-methodology/
[21:10] <Unit193> pleia2: Thanks!
[21:49] <pleia2> SilverLion: thanks :) just crazy busy
[21:50] <SilverLion> pleia2: no need for apology
[21:51] <SilverLion> pleia2: i am facing an important meeting tomorrow where i need to proof my skills in php
[21:51] <pleia2> SilverLion: good luck!
[21:51] <SilverLion> pleia2: cross the fingers ;)
[21:52] <SilverLion> and on saturday i will be part of a big hangout for ubuntu beginners team
[22:06] <rickspencer3> re
[22:17] <SilverLion> wb rickspencer3
[22:38] <akgraner> pleia2, thanks!


[05:08] <hgmhgk> sup
[15:00] <Forage_> When trying to upgrade Empathy from the gnome3 staging ppa, packages like account-plugin-irc will be removed. Will I still be able to use irc accounts after I update all packages from the ppa?
[15:14] <Forage_> ricotz: since you added Empathy to the gnome3 staging ppa, maybe you know the anwser
[15:14] <Forage_> When trying to upgrade Empathy from the gnome3 staging ppa, packages like account-plugin-irc will be removed. Will I still be able to use irc accounts after I update all packages from the ppa?
[15:15] <ricotz> Forage_, yes it will
[15:16] <Forage_> is it handled differently now, not requiring the account packages?
[15:17] <Forage_> the same goes for jabber e.g.
[15:17] <ricotz> Forage_, the file structure has changed and the needed bits are included in the main package now
[15:18] <Forage_> ok, good to know
[15:18] <Forage_> ty
[15:18] <ricotz> (this might change for the official ubuntu package again)
[15:19] <Forage_> btw, are you planning on updating Empathy to 8.2?
[15:19] <ricotz> it isnt on my list yet, kind of busy with other things currently
[15:21] <Forage_> any particular reason, besides lack of time, for it not being on 8.0 in the first place yet? If it's mainly a matter of updating to upstream and checking the current patches, I could take a stab at it as well
[15:21] <Forage_> 3.8.0 that is
[15:23] <Forage_> or are there bigger matters to tackle?
[16:44] <ricotz> Forage_, jfyi, pushing empathy 3.8.1
[21:18] <Forage_> ricotz: muchas gracias :-)