[00:00] <holstein> is syncing when you plug a cable from the phone to the computer thetinyjesus ? .. i havent had to do that in years.. i wouldnt expect ubuntu to be able to do anything to "fix" iOS
[00:00] <thetinyjesus> fans*
[00:00] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: because i believe in freedom
[00:00] <lehzeni> thetinyjesus, have you tried the "gnupd" package?
[00:00] <lehzeni> "gnupod"
[00:00] <dragonfly> Roxy`, I'll post a couple links I found:
[00:01] <thetinyjesus> holstein: i can get the ipod to mount, i can transfer the songs ON the ipod to my computer but if i try to sync a song to the iphone it says it works but doesn't show up on the iphone
[00:01] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: there are solutions (see ubottu ) but i dont want to spent time to support unfree things (sorry)
[00:01] <holstein> thetinyjesus: it doesnt have to be anything personal... you can use what you like, and should... but dont expect unsupported OS's to be able to support the iOS platform
[00:01] <dragonfly> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1308521
[00:01] <diverdude> cfhowlett, they are homemade...i want standard ubuntu icons
[00:01] <john_doe_jr> if I want a script to do several things do I just use the && statement to join all the commands that I would normally type @ the command line?
[00:01] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: if we support something like apple-stuff there will never be a change with ther evil politic (itunes and so on)
[00:01] <cfhowlett> diverdude: are you trying to install them in a NOT ubuntu OS??
[00:01] <lehzeni> thetinyjesus, that's because the song has to be added to the daatabase in the iphone. which was one of the things gnupod used to take care of
[00:02] <dragonfly> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8246179
[00:02] <thetinyjesus> iceroot: that wouldn't be for the worse, many people would be happen if they could loosen their grip a little
[00:02] <diverdude> cfhowlett, homepage
[00:02] <thetinyjesus> happy* sorry im blazed
[00:02] <holstein> thetinyjesus: one of the first LUG presentations i hosted was about how to sync ipods in linux.. the presenter used banshee and several other tools with success
[00:02] <dragonfly> maybe one of those will hlep
[00:02] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: the best would be "noone would use things which take away your freedom
[00:03] <cfhowlett> diverdude: I think this is what you're seeking:  http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/
[00:03] <iceroot> Roxy`: maybe richard stallman is sometimes very strange but he is right about what he is saying
[00:03] <manoerafa> chanserv
[00:03] <iceroot> Roxy`: sorry wrong nick
[00:03] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: ^
[00:03] <cfhowlett> diverdude: http://design.canonical.com/brand/Logos/
[00:04] <thetinyjesus> iceroot: i've owned the HTC hero, evo, samsung galaxy S2, and vanilla android with their baby phone and none of them seemed to just work like the iphone
[00:04] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: as i said, i dont like apple, i will not support there products
[00:04] <cfhowlett> thetinyjesus: see @apple "think different"
[00:04] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: and i will not support apple-stuff here
[00:04] <cfhowlett> iceroot: nor should we
[00:04] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: see what ubottu tells you, the solution is there
[00:05] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: but see the true, apple is evil because they take away your freedom, you cant use there products with everything and i dont see a reason why we should support it
[00:05] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: but that is just my opinion and i am speaking not for #ubuntu
[00:05] <don_ace> hii
[00:05] <lehzeni> thetinyjesus http://freecode.com/projects/gnupod
[00:05] <graft> err, hate to buzzkill, but shouldn't this be in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[00:06] <don_ace> hey people :)
[00:06] <cfhowlett> don_ace: greetings
[00:06] <iceroot> graft: freedom should be always ontopic :)
[00:06] <thetinyjesus> iceroot: i see your point, but i cannot express my feelings when i have a device that crashes or freezes from doing simple tasks
[00:06] <thetinyjesus> lehzeni: going to check it out now ty
[00:06] <don_ace> kann wer deutsch
[00:06] <don_ace> hallo leute
[00:07] <iceroot> !de | don_ace
[00:07] <graft> iceroot: mayhap, but channel bandwidth is limited, and this channel does have a purpose
[00:07] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: you looked the links from ubottu ?
[00:07] <dragonfly> iceroot, just to put things in perspective, offering support using apple products with ubuntu here would not necessarily be promoting apple, but rather providing a service to those who wish to migrate towards open solutions (such as android and ubuntu) but currently have apple devices
[00:07] <thetinyjesus> iceroot: yeah i've been checking everywhere possible for days
[00:08] <iceroot> dragonfly: i dont see why people should migrate if we help them to use there unfree stuff
[00:08] <Deithrian> Is there a way to make Ibus to work with Opera browser?
[00:08] <don_ace> can anyone help me
[00:08] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: ok
[00:08] <don_ace> im searching for a social channel in german
[00:08] <iceroot> !ask | don_ace
[00:08] <iceroot> !alis | don_ace
[00:09] <don_ace> iceroot ftw! :)
[00:09] <don_ace> omg
[00:09] <thetinyjesus> iceroot:  the problem is as of right now they only know how the library system works in ios 4.3.5 and under they haven't figured out 5.0 yet and of course the iphone 4s will not go back to ios 4
[00:09] <don_ace> this bot is a god
[00:09] <don_ace> omfg
[00:09] <don_ace> hou epic is this bot programmed
[00:09] <don_ace> :OOO
[00:09] <don_ace> never seen before
[00:09] <iceroot> thetinyjesus: then i guess you cant use your apple-stuff with ubuntu
[00:09] <don_ace> can anyone help me ?
[00:10] <iceroot> don_ace: read what ubottu told you about "alis"
[00:10] <thetinyjesus> iceroot: i figured thats why i partitioned windows with another media partition for music/movies so i can download everything on linux and when needed sync with win7
[00:10] <don_ace> wtf
[00:10] <don_ace> i dont understand
[00:10] <don_ace> by
[00:10] <cfhowlett> !enter|don_ace
[00:10] <cfhowlett> !ask|don_ace
[00:11] <thetinyjesus> iceroot: i just recently started linux like two weeks ago i'm not that great yet just getting the feel of it but so far i love it, no crashes got all hardware working and enjoying how you can customize literally everything
[00:11] <dragonfly> iceroot, I'm referring to if someone has say an iPod touch...perhaps they are interested in switching from windows to ubuntu....if they can still use the device they currently have (iphone, touch, etc) it can put a taste in their mouth for the free stuff and perhaps their next device will be android....but if they can't even do something as simple as use their ipod with ubuntu then why woudl they want to continue using ubuntu because every
[00:11] <dragonfly> thing "just works" with their ipod and windows
[00:11] <riyonuk> How would I configure Ubuntu to use a static IP (like <IP_ADDRESS>) or something?
[00:12] <lehzeni> ethtool
[00:12] <iceroot> dragonfly: its just my opinion and maybe you are right but i will never support using apple-products (on ubuntu or somewhere else)
[00:12] <holstein> thetinyjesus: maybe you can move this sync up into an account.. you should ask in the apple channels about how that would work... i use google music on my android phone.. everything is synced over the internet
[00:12] <dragonfly> .....the issue is not whether ubuntu has an obligation to support apple products, but rather that perhaps the "community" should step-up and fill in a void where apple refuses to cooperate and be of any help whatsoever
[00:12] <thetinyjesus> dragonfly: thats why you do what i did and just partition the drive so you save all your media there and dual boot win/linux and both OS can share that partition
[00:13] <thetinyjesus> dragonfly: and when needed for the one or two tasks linux cannot work with at the moment, you have a backup plan
[00:13] <dragonfly> thetinyjesus, i agree and I have used a similar solution myself, but for the less technical user, it would be better if that was unnecessary...imo
[00:13] <thetinyjesus> dragonfly: agree im not a computer tech or anything just really a hobby on the side i enjoy
[00:14] <daniel_> hi folks
[00:14] <ironshoehat> Hi
[00:14] <thetinyjesus> holstein: hey man can you point me into the right direction which server/channel for that?
[00:16] <dragonfly> iceroot, I have a similar philosophy in that I don't necessarily like apple products and wouldn't recommend or promote their use....however, I will "support" their use (to whatever limited extent I can) on Ubuntu simply by way of if someone has an ipod they should still be won over to Ubuntu
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> dragonfly: you can access NTFS from Ubuntu so just have your NTFS mount at boot and symlink to the folder
[00:17] <iceroot> dragonfly: and i thing the only way to stop this products is not to support them and dont help people to use something like that
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> dragonfly: I'm the same way about apple + support. I hate apple
[00:17] <iceroot> dragonfly: but as i said, this is just my opinion and not everyone would like that opinion and of course everyone is free to help others on that topic
[00:18] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: the problem is apple doesn't just say put the artist in a folder like you would think, the folder name along with song title are all coded in numbers
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: afaik rhythmnbox does something magical, I believe amarok can manage them too
[00:19] <iceroot> dragonfly: and the main-reason why i am using GNU/Linux is not because its free (as in free beer) not because its "cool" just because its FREE (as in free speech)
[00:19] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip:  i can view EVERYTHING on my iphone but have no friggin clue what the song is, and yes i can transfer the songs INTO rhythmnbox but i cannot transfer back onto the iphone
[00:19] <iceroot> !free
[00:19] <lehzeni> thetinyjesus, if you had a separate ipod (any model) for music, you could convert it to RockBox firmware, which is superior and much easier to use from linux
[00:19] <thetinyjesus> lehzeni: i would do it if it wasn't my phone lol i cant risk that
[00:20] <lehzeni> thetinyjesus, that's why I said a separate ipod
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: could always run Windows in the closed source virtualbox. If companies don't support Linux I suggest you don't buy their kit
[00:20] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: +1
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: Kodak also refuse to support Linux
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: as do Logitech
[00:21] <cfhowlett> kodak = bankrupt
[00:21] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: kodak sucks and is about to go under cant see why they wouold
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: its an example
[00:21] <dies_irae> what package for flash?
[00:21] <dragonfly> i often wonder what companies gain or save by not supporting linux...especially hardware manufacturers
[00:22] <dies_irae> shit be crashing like crazy!!
[00:22] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: i know but a bad decision haha, btw i never ran virtual box does it work off an existing windows install or is it like booting into a live cd
[00:22] <cfhowlett> !flash|dies_irae
[00:22] <dies_irae> gnash?? lolololol!!
[00:22] <pangolin> dies_irae: please mind your language
[00:22] <lehzeni> thetinyjesus, does your iphone allow you to import *free* music without using itunes store?
[00:22] <iceroot> installing nonfree virtualbox with windows (licence needed) to add music to a phone.......
[00:23] <thetinyjesus> lehzeni: well i
[00:23] <thetinyjesus> lehzeni: you mean like torrented music and putting it on without using itunes?
[00:23] <cfhowlett> thetinyjesus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnUrqcD4W_M
[00:23] <lehzeni> no, I meant legally free music
[00:24] <thetinyjesus> hmm closest to that was downloaded mixtapes off datpiff.com
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> dies_irae: if you run PPC or ARM cpu you will need it (or another alternative)
[00:24] <thetinyjesus> they are legal
[00:24] <dies_irae> cfhowlett: that does not tell how to upgrade
[00:24] <dog> Need assistance with a Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit install
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> lehzeni: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=legal%20torrents&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CEIQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.legittorrents.info%2F&ei=tsAxT4nDKojDhAeNy7CQBQ&usg=AFQjCNHeJSJlEf-iz3LEnaAONa4LJ_lPlg
[00:24] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: no flash for ppc or arm?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: not as far as I knw
[00:24] <lehzeni> so the phone itself was able to import the mp3 (or whatever) files?
[00:24] <ryan__> How much space does Ubuntu 11.10 take up on a hard drive compared to Windows XP?
[00:25] <cfhowlett> dies_irae: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/flash
[00:25] <Roxy`> Anyone know any iso to usb software out there?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: my full unity install is about 3.something Gb
[00:25] <iceroot> ryan__: 4-7GB
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: with all the codecs and office you can want
[00:25] <cfhowlett> Roxy`: startup disk creator comes with buntu
[00:25] <urlin2u> ryan__, ubuntu about 2.7 gigs stock XP as in ##windows
[00:25] <philipballew> can someone tell me if something looks funky http://pastebin.com/bHDQuRnT with my hd's configuration so I can reinstall grub
[00:25] <thetinyjesus> cfhowlett: thanks i will check it out when i get back have to leave in a minute
[00:25] <visual1ce> hi
[00:25] <urlin2u> ask*
[00:26] <Roxy`> cfhowlett: Thats for if I want to put ubuntu on another computer...
[00:26] <thetinyjesus> cfhowlett: btw how do i open the link easy? im using weechat
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> dog: ask away
[00:26] <Roxy`> cfhowlett: I don't want to put ubuntu on another computer, this is for awhole other operating system.
[00:26] <cfhowlett> Roxy`: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=unetbootin&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Funetbootin.sourceforge.net%2F&ei=RsExT8SPHbL-iQKRwszMCg&usg=AFQjCNFG2iJy14ueI6PKA0HBkn1cP-KoBg&cad=rja
[00:27] <visual1ce> every now and then my mouse doesn't work properly - the cursor moves but I can't click anything. it's a g5 mouse connected to my laptop. also is there any way to disable/reenable touchpad when a mouse is connected/disconnected?
[00:27] <cfhowlett> Roxy`: sorry ...unetbootin
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: annoying isn't it
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: duckduckgo doesn't do that :)
[00:27] <Roxy`> Unetbootin? Really? It'll burn a windows iso to a usb?
[00:27] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip: fatfingerinputerror
[00:27] <dog> tried 3 downloads and burned 3 different disks but my quad core, 64-bit Acer gets a little way into the install and quits with a black screen
[00:27] <Roxy`> Last I tried it made a linux startup LOL
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> Roxy`: it doesn't 'burn' it per se. It just transfers the files and add a boot loader
[00:27] <dies_irae> x64
[00:27] <dies_irae> I do have it in the sources
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> dog: what video chip do you use?
[00:28] <Roxy`> ActionParsnip: That's the problem. I don't need unetbootin to give the windows iso a LINUX bootloader LOL! It never worked that way
[00:28] <cfhowlett> Roxy`: windows has a usb burn tool you know...(forgive Sir Stallman for the heresy I'm about to commit: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msstore/html/pbPage.Help_Win7_usbdvd_dwnTool)
[00:29] <dog> AMD Radeon????
[00:29] <tecnopoly_cl> hologram android uu
[00:29] <ryan__> ActionParsnip: So basically, Oneiric takes up more space than Windows XP?
[00:29] <tecnopoly_cl> ;)
[00:29] <iceroot> ryan__: no
[00:29] <finish06> !next White Collar
[00:29] <Roxy`> I can't stand ubuntu anymore... It never has the drivers you need so I am going back to Windows 7 Ultimate XD
[00:29] <iceroot> ryan__: but ubuntu does come with additional software windows does not so you cant comapre
[00:30] <tecnopoly_cl> hologram android Cool
[00:30] <lehzeni> Roxy`, why not try a different distro first, or maybe a even a different nix?
[00:30] <tecnopoly_cl>  hologram
[00:30] <ryan__> iceroot: I just looked up how much space XP takes up online, and it appears XP takes up about 2 gb, while Ubuntu 11.10 takes up 4-7 gb of available hard drive space.
[00:30] <nils_> Roxy`: at least the money for the license isn't going to waste then
[00:30] <dog> parsnip:  it loaded up 10.04 LTS without problems.  running it now
[00:30] <iceroot> ryan__: and i told you why
[00:31] <stevecam> im trying to install zsnes through synaptic but its telling me that it wants to remove other packages like ubuntu-desktop, vlc and devede, why is this happening?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: a little but if you install office, DVD playback and ALL the other apps in XP you are going to start pushin past the 10Gb mark easilyt
[00:31] <iceroot> ryan__: e.g. ubuntu has a office suite, pdf viewer and so one
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: a stock install is pretty small, only a coule of Gbs
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> *couple
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> ryan__: so your comparison is flawed
[00:32] <iceroot> ryan__: so you cant compare the 2gb from xp with the 4-7 gb from ubuntu
[00:32] <Stygian> anyone here able to help with a booting issue?
[00:32] <Roxy`> cfhowlett: You gave a usb/iso piece of software from microsoft and I am stuck in linux LOL! Nice.
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> dog: add the boot option:  nomodeset
[00:32] <ryan__> Thanks, ActionParsnip and iceroot!
[00:32] <iceroot> Roxy`: try dd, maybe the ms isos can handle it
[00:33] <Roxy`> I just need something that will "burn" the iso to the usb drive
[00:33] <iceroot> Roxy`: try dd, maybe the ms isos can handle it
[00:33] <lehzeni> Roxy`: no dvd drive?
[00:33] <Roxy`> lehzeni: On a netbook.
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> dog: the video timings have moved inside the kernel in the newer versions and sometimes the option is needed. The newer version with its differing kernel is why you are having the problem.
[00:34] <dog> Thanks AP.  I'll drop out of here and give it a try.
[00:34] <cfhowlett> stevecam: that is very strange and should not be happening
[00:34] <lehzeni> Roxy`: do netbooks have usb ports?
[00:34] <Antunes> alguem do brasil
[00:34] <tecnopoly_cl>  hologrmas free at
[00:34] <cfhowlett> !br|antunes
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> Roxy`: unetbootin will put the ISO on a USB stick or SD card etc and allow you to then install Ubuntu from it
[00:34] <Roxy`> lehzeni: I had windows 7 starter on it at first, and I don't know what made me want to put Ubuntu on it and I have a long history of having hell with linux and drivers. And yes netbooks have usb ports XD
[00:34] <stevecam> cfhowlett, is it possible to just prevent this?
[00:34] <lehzeni> Roxy`: there are a lot of fine usb dvd drives
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> lehzeni: ive never seen a netbook without usb ports
[00:34] <Roxy`> ActionParsnip: I am trying to get AWAY from ubuntu not put it on there, thats what am stuck with
[00:35] <Roxy`> XD
[00:35] <cfhowlett> stevecam: installing via software center???
[00:35] <stevecam> synaptic
[00:35] <Canadian1296> I know I should ask to ask questions, but aI have a security question for Ubuntu 11.10. Should I ask it here or is there a deticated security channel?
[00:35] <Canadian1296> **shouldn't
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Roxy`: you could setup a PXE server and install over network. The usb install is a LOT quicker
[00:35] <iceroot> Canadian1296: you found a security issue?
[00:35] <urlin2u> Stygian, whats going on?
[00:35] <Canadian1296> iceroot: No, i have a question about making my install more secure
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: oneiric is supported here, ask away
[00:35] <iceroot> Canadian1296: then use this channel
[00:36] <Stygian> urlin2u, I just installed 11.10 on my samsung rv520 laptop and when it reboots it won't boot off hard drive I get the bios boot menu
[00:36] <Stygian> and when I choose for it to boot off the hdd it just reboots back to the boot menu
[00:36] <stevecam> cfhowlett, im using a 64-bit machine if that makes any difference, an i7
[00:36] <cfhowlett> stevecam: screenshot @ http://imagebin.org/?page=add
[00:36] <urlin2u> Stygian, you have more then one HD?  Did you install from windows 2 questions here
[00:36] <Stygian> no and no
[00:36] <Stygian> it's a laptop
[00:37] <urlin2u> Stygian, you install using a usb and have you tried to see if it got the grub bootlader rather the laptop?
[00:38] <lehzeni> Roxy`: sorry. the idea was you burning it to a usb dvd burner and then booting the microsoft install from the burner
[00:38] <urlin2u> then*
[00:38] <Stygian> urlin2u, I installed via dvd/cd
[00:38] <Stygian> and what you mean if it got the grub bootloader rather the laptop
[00:39] <urlin2u> Stygian, easiest way to getto the bottom of this is with a script I will trigger the boot to give you the links
[00:39] <urlin2u> !bootscript > Stygian
[00:39] <urlin2u> !boot
[00:40] <urlin2u> Stygian, sorry here it is. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[00:40] <Canadian1296> Alright, I'm messing around with installing Ubuntu in virtualbox (Mac OS X Lion host) so I can get comfortable with the process (im installing it on a second computer im getting soon). Just wondering, currently I have a /boot partition, and an encrypted lvm partition (with swap, / (system), and /home virtual partitions on it). How would I put the boot partition on an external source (ex. a usb) so the computer won't boot without
[00:40] <Canadian1296> attached? Yes, the whole setup is paranoid, I'm just trying to learn
[00:40] <leeping> Hi there, there is something wrong with Evolution, I already tried restarting the computer.  How do I delete the temporary files (excluding the whole mailbox)?
[00:40] <stevecam> cfhowlett, http://imagebin.org/197841
[00:41] <h00k> leeping: what is the 'something wrong' with evolution you're trying to fix?
[00:41] <h00k> !broken | leeping
[00:41] <leeping> h00k, when I click on the listing of message titles, the message does not appear in the preview pane.
[00:41] <urlin2u> Stygian, the bootscript is what you want pastebin the results text made from running it.
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: the default install is pretty well setup. Just stick to using sudo when needed and you'll be ok
[00:42] <cfhowlett> stevecam: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[00:42] <leeping> I already asked how to delete the temporary files, that was my proposed fix :)
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: you could use ufw to configure a firewall etc
[00:42] <stevecam> cfhowlett, 11.10
[00:43] <Canadian1296> ActionParsnip: Okay I'll do both, any other tips? I'm looking for over the top paranoid security here :P
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> leeping: bleachbit ran as root and user can clear temp files well, watch settings for apps and avoid options which say they will take a long time
[00:43] <dcosta> hi
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: could use tor proxy if your tinfoil hat collection is vast
[00:43] <Roxy``> dd? whats dd?
[00:43] <lehzeni> a cli command
[00:43] <cfhowlett> stevecam: NO WAY should a game emulator (ZNES) require this kind of configuration.  IDK WHY it's requesting what you see, but something is VERY wrong.  DO NOT proceed.  But if have to have ZNES, install it inside a virtual machine in Virtual box.
[00:43] <Stygian> urlin2u ok give me a few minutes
[00:44] <urlin2u> Stygian, cool. :)
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> stevecam: zsnes is on the playonlinux ppa, dead easy to install
[00:44] <leeping> ActionParsnip, I will try that, thank you :)
[00:44] <Canadian1296> ActionParsnip: is there any way to force all outgoing connections through tor, or would I have to manually configure every application?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> leeping: have as many apps CLOSED as you can to unlock files,
[00:44] <Roxy``> lehzeni: Is there a gui program I use to burn an iso the usb drive?
[00:44] <stevecam> looks like human error
[00:44] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: assuming you use 32bit, for 64bit zsnes is a big "issue".  I stopped using it.
[00:44] <lehzeni> Roxy``: for example "dd if=infile of=/dev/sdx bs=1M count=filesize"
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: there are guides online but you can make it the system wide setting
[00:45] <Canadian1296> okay, ill google it
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: why so paranoid?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: its the 'advised' install so I'll take a punt :)
[00:45] <leeping> ActionParsnip, evolution isn't on here. :)
[00:45] <tecnopoly_cl>  hologrmas free at
[00:45] <cfhowlett> tecnopoly_cl: stop
[00:45] <leeping> wait
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> leeping: dang
[00:45] <lehzeni> Roxy``: you don't need a gui program to do it. Don't know if it will boot that way though
[00:45] <kloppy> Hi, can someone tell me how to increase and decrease luminosity because the "Fn" buttons do not work ?
[00:45] <tecnopoly_cl> ok
[00:45] <leeping> never mind, it was automatically hidden
[00:45] <leeping> hold on
[00:46] <tecnopoly_cl> clue
[00:46] <joe_____> hello
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> leeping: have evolution closed first and READ everything so you can see what you are using
[00:46] <JPeterson> I'm getting Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration every time i boot 11.10 after an upgrade
[00:46] <JPeterson> after that the netowrk wors though
[00:46] <JPeterson> works
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: wired or wireless?
[00:46] <Canadian1296> ActionParsnip: Cause I can be :P I'm setting this up in virtualbox, which isnt ideal, but I just want to learn as much about security like this as I can. Better to be too paranoid than not paranoid enough :)
[00:46] <JPeterson> wired
[00:46] <Roxy``> lehzeni: Just need a way to burn the iso to the usb drive. The windows 7 ultimate iso. I don't need a bootloader at all. My machine will automatically read it and boot from it.
[00:46] <JPeterson> acmeinc1:
[00:46] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip:
[00:46] <FloodBot1> JPeterson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:46] <joe_____> do you have any interfaces configured that timeout?
[00:46] <JPeterson> joe_____: i'll check
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: is the cable ok? Have you tried a different port on the router?
[00:47] <stevecam> cfhowlett, would it be possible it be the conflicts with the x86 and the 64bit libs? or does it not happen like that
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: have you tried setting manual IP on the interface?
[00:47] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: i'll try
[00:47] <leeping> ActionParsnip, the problem appears to be fixed :)
[00:47] <leeping> thank you so much.
[00:47] <lehzeni> Roxy``: then "dd if=infile of=/dev/sdx bs=1M count=filesize", where sdx is the sd name of the usb drive and filesize is the number of megabytes round up
[00:47] <cfhowlett> stevecam: as good as an explanation as any...IDK
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> leeping: np man, bleachbit is powerful but it can delete a lot of stuff you want (like firefox configs for example)
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> lehzeni: will need sudo too ;)
[00:48] <stevecam> lol ok i think my safest bet would be like you said, ruin it in an emulator
[00:48] <leeping> Right - hopefully it only deletes what it says :)
[00:48] <lehzeni> I do important things like that from root :)
[00:48] <Roxy``> lehzeni: Linux/Ubuntu is a bitch. XD I'll go with windows any day. LOL!
[00:48] <cfhowlett> stevecam: go for it.
[00:48] <zykotick9> stevecam: i used to love zsnes, but you should consider it a 32bit only program.  Look for an alternative.
[00:49] <iceroot> Roxy``: please go to ##windows
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: thats fine, we don't need telling
[00:49] <joe_____> why zyk? do you really need 64 bits to emulate 16?
[00:49] <gms> Roxy`` u poor misguided mouse clikerer.
[00:49] <lehzeni> Roxy``: then just bring up a terminal window and try that dd command (with sudo I guess)
[00:49] <iceroot> gms: no need that here
[00:49] <stevecam> zykotick9, synatpic doesnt come up with anything else when i type in snes
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: why you won't use unetbootin is anyones guess, you are making the whole process harder for yourself. Go figure
[00:50] <gms> oh humer is not allowed?
[00:50] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip: +1
[00:50] <gms> iceroot ???
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> gms: humour
[00:50] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: humor
[00:51] <zykotick9> stevecam: perhaps ubuntu doesn't have another option?  you might want to go beyond the ubuntu walls on this one.
[00:51] <iceroot> gms: feeding the trolls is not allowed in here
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: its french based, so it has the u in
[00:51] <joe_____> SNES9x is aiight
[00:52] <Ben64> as an aside, unetbootin never yields positive results for me
[00:52] <joe_____> it should be in apt repos
[00:52] <Canadian1296> is "sudo aptitude install --without-recommends ubuntu-desktop" the best way to install a gui without all the extras, or is there a better way?
[00:52] <joe_____> unetbootin is fine, just build from iso
[00:52] <joe_____> the builtin auto stuff is wacky
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: sudo apt-get install lxde lightdm   works here :)
[00:52] <gms> i was trying to be funny. obvously its not allowed here
[00:52] <Ben64> joe_____: yeah doesn't work
[00:53] <Canadian1296> ActionParsnip: Okay, thanks :)
[00:53] <joe_____> i use the server install and then put KDE on it
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> joe_____: why not just install kubuntu?
[00:53] <joe_____> too bloated
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> joe_____: the minimal ISO has an option for a minimal kde afaik
[00:54] <EvilResistance> joe_____, um... "bloated" how?
[00:54] <joe_____> for me, not that it is bad or anything
[00:54] <Roxy``> 1.8 MB/sec XD lovely download speed
[00:54] <Roxy``> XD
[00:54] <joe_____> lot's of apps i dont need or use
[00:54] <joe_____> lots*
[00:54] <EvilResistance> joe_____, the minimal installation might be better for ya, actually
[00:54] <marabi2> hello
[00:54] <joe_____> the other issue is LVM
[00:54] <EvilResistance> it doesnt come with extra crap
[00:54] <EvilResistance> s/extra/lots of extra/
[00:54] <lehzeni> Roxy``: usb thumbdrives aren't the fastest
[00:54] <joe_____> server makes LVM easier
[00:54] <joe_____> and i use preseed options
[00:54] <cfhowlett> marabi2: greetings
[00:55] <joe_____> im weird...
[00:55] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: how do i know what eth# I have?
[00:55] <JPeterson> for "iface eth# inet dhcp"
[00:55] <Roxy``> lehzeni: Long as I get windows 7 ultimate back on these laptops thats fine LOL!
[00:55] <joe_____> sudo /sbin/ifconfig -a
[00:55] <marabi2> hey how are you doing cfhowlett?
[00:55] <iceroot> is there a way to get the changelog from a package "foo" from another ubuntu-release? e.g. something like "apt-get changelog foo -r natty" something like that i am searching for (without editing my sources.list)
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: sudo lshw -C network     will tell you
[00:56] <cfhowlett> marabi2: you have a question for us?
[00:56] <Roxy``> lehzeni: I just have to go through the hell of putting everything back on it again
[00:56] <lehzeni> JPeterson: type "ifconfig", it will tell you what you've got
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: that's all?
[00:56] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: thx
[00:56] <marabi2> no i don"t
[00:56] <Canadian1296> Another question… How do I put the /boot partition on a seperate drive (like removable usb) instead of on the main harddrive? I have no problem with doing a fresh install if necessary.
[00:56] <cfhowlett> !home|canadian1296
[00:56] <joe_____> boot?
[00:57] <Ben64> Canadian1296: why would you want to?
[00:57] <zykotick9> cfhowlett: /home != /root
[00:57] <joe_____> i dont that's a good idea canadian
[00:57] <zykotick9> cfhowlett: sorry s/root/boot/
[00:57] <joe_____> a partition for boot, yes
[00:57] <iceroot> Canadian1296: dd /boot to the other drive
[00:57] <cfhowlett> zykotick9: you're right.  /retracting highly questionable "advice"
[00:57] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: Yep! I migrated from Windows 7 starter on the netbook to ubuntu and killed 4 hours looking for drivers and stuff I couldn't find.. And when I was in Windows I had no trouble, which I am STILL trying to wonder what made me switch. -_-
[00:58] <Canadian1296> Ben64: I'm just experimenting in virtualbox, so it doesnt matter how bad I mess things up. I'm just wondering if its possible.
[00:58] <Ben64> moving /boot seems like a great way to break a system
[00:58] <cfhowlett> Roxy``: please go to ##windows
[00:58] <Stygian> urlin2u I can't download that file
[00:58] <Stygian> everytime I connect the laptop it locks up my router
[00:58] <zykotick9> Ben64: agreed
[00:58] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: the problem was that my eth2 was renamed eth0 after the upgrade, with /etc/network/interfaces left unchanged
[00:58] <joe_____> it is possible, but it will break easily Canadian
[00:58] <joe_____> say you loose the usb drive
[00:58] <urlin2u> Stygian, you need to do it on a live ubuntu cd.
[00:58] <Stygian> urlin2u I k now
[00:59] <joe_____> you'll have to recreate boot and install grub natively
[00:59] <Stygian> I am booted into a live ubuntu cd
[00:59] <urlin2u> Stygian, can you share why.
[00:59] <Stygian> and it's locking up my router when it connects to the network
[00:59] <zykotick9> JPeterson: was this a VM install at one point?  UDEV will change the /dev/ethX if the MAC address has changed.
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/downloadspeed.JPG  50Mb link :)
[00:59] <JPeterson> zykotick9: it's a vm install now
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: 100% of my hardware works out of the box
[00:59] <Canadian1296> joe___: Assuming I don't loose the usb drive, how would I go about doing it?
[00:59] <Canadian1296> **lose
[00:59] <lehzeni> Stygian: number one cause of locked up routers is duplex-mismatch
[01:00] <Scunizi> Why is it I have issues playing a google voice message and getting an occasional white screen when looking at google maps while using Chrome (daily) and or Chromium? Firefox just keep chugging along with no issues.
[01:00] <zykotick9> JPeterson: there is some way to reset the UDEV rule, sorry i haven't had to do it, so don't know the specifics
[01:00] <urlin2u> Stygian, not sure why iot is justa web link.
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: you can edit the system so it gets named to eth0
[01:00] <JPeterson> zykotick9: thx
[01:00] <urlin2u> it*
[01:00] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: ok
[01:00] <joe_____> JPeterson, look in /etc/udev/rules.d
[01:00] <Stygian> urlin2u, are yuou not reading what I type all the way
[01:00] <JPeterson> joe_____: thx
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1393346
[01:00] <joe_____> you should have something like 70-net-persistent.rules
[01:00] <Stygian> the file cannot be downloaded because I cannot connect the laptop to the internet
[01:00] <Stygian> when I do it locks up my router
[01:01] <joe_____> just delete all lines after the comment block
[01:01] <Stygian> lehzeni duplex-mismatch?
[01:01] <urlin2u> Stygian, yes it helps when you use my nic though.
[01:01] <tylerl> My USB headset (logitech h555) sounds super quiet under Ubuntu. Increasing the volume above 100% just blows it out and it still sounds quiet. Can I change which driver it uses to perhaps a generic one?
[01:01] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: I even had the partition from the HP factory to restore my original os back but ubuntu took that XD
[01:01] <joe_____> and reboot
[01:01] <cfhowlett> tylerl: same model but not the problems...
[01:01] <Scunizi> tylerl: install pavcontrol and check the levels through that.. it was my answer
[01:01] <lehzeni> Stygian: duplex is usually caused by the net card set to full-duplex and the router being only half-duplex
[01:02] <Toftor> Hi all! Help please!
[01:02] <cjaredrun> sure thing!
[01:02] <cfhowlett> tylerl: might have to manually change your sound preferences/hardware/input/output
[01:02]  * cjaredrun gives a serving of help to Toftor
[01:02] <urlin2u> Stygian, we are going to have problems working together I can tell so good luck others will help you. :)
[01:02] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: LOL! What kind of connection you have?
[01:02] <Roxy``> XD
[01:02] <cfhowlett> !ask|toftor
[01:02] <joe_____> Stygian ethtool should help you diagnose
[01:02] <EvilResistance> Toftor, WITH WHAT?
[01:02] <EvilResistance> ugh caps
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: 50Mb fibre afaik
[01:02] <tylerl> Scunizi: pavcontrol? is that the package name? It doesn't show up in synaptic
[01:02]  * EvilResistance beats his keyboard
[01:02] <cjaredrun> beat it good
[01:03] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: I am using the university of california's connection lol
[01:03] <cjaredrun> yeah... just like that
[01:03] <Scunizi> tylerl: Pulse Audio Volume control.. might have misstyped the actual package name.
[01:03] <Stygian> lehzeni, router is in full duplex
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: XP doesn't have much life in it btw, it will be EOL soon
[01:03] <cfhowlett> tylerl: pavucontrol
[01:03] <Stygian> lehzeni and it works just fine when the laptop was in windows
[01:03] <Toftor> How to recover a logical partition ext4?
[01:03] <lehzeni> Stygian: how about your net card's duplex settings?
[01:03] <Stygian> joe_____ it's wifi not eth0
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: possibly foremost
[01:03] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: Lol, no I am putting Windows 7 Ultimate on the netbook and also on this laptop as well.
[01:03] <Toftor> OMGHELPPLZ!
[01:03] <cfhowlett> !shout|toftor
[01:03] <joe_____> what do you mean logical partition.  do you mean logical volume under LVM?
[01:03] <JPeterson> How do I make regular link? not a symlink? (ctrl + shift makes  asymlink)
[01:03] <Stygian> lehzeni full
[01:03] <urlin2u> Toftor, a extended is only a container for logicals...etc
[01:04] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: Not XP lol
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: please try and wait more that 120 seconds before re asking, it floods the channel. You are asking the same people the same question
[01:04] <Chotaz> how do i do a recursive scan on a dir to find a specific file extensioN?
[01:04] <joe_____> ln command, jpete
[01:05] <Ben64> Chotaz: find <dir> | grep -i .jpg$
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: you could make a hard link if you omit the -s option
[01:05] <Toftor> How to recover a logical partition ext4?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: I already told you
[01:05] <Scunizi> Chotaz: guessing here.. ls -r (or -R) *.<extension>
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: your backups will be a much better way too
[01:05] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: I mean not a hard or sym link, a link that leads to the path
[01:05] <joe_____> why do you need a hard link, JPete? ln is for hard ln -s is soft
[01:05] <nils_> Toftor: what do you mean by recover?
[01:05] <Toftor> how recover!?!?!?
[01:06] <JPeterson> (like a windows .lnk if that helps)
[01:06] <joe_____> Toftor, what do you mean by logical partition?  Do you mean LVM LV>?
[01:06] <Toftor> How to recover a logical partition?
[01:06] <Toftor> ext 4 there are
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: what are you trying to achieve? If you link a folder and double click the link (which will appear as a folder) you will then start to navigate down the new path
[01:06] <joe_____> what does fsck.ext4 say, Tofter?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: foremost, it's an app. Use it
[01:06] <Raymond_> anybody here have experience setting up phpbb 3.0
[01:07] <Toftor> what are you kidding? :(
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: why are you askimng so much?
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: no, its a data recovery app
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: why do you not have a backup?
[01:07] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: I want to jump to a folder in nautilus. if it doesn't work just say it.
[01:07] <johndoe_> hi, does anyone know how to restore notify-osd as the default? I installed xubuntu-desktop and know the xfce notifier is used even while on a unity session
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: yes, a symlink will do exactly that
[01:08] <joe_____> you can create a symlink soft and it will do that JPete
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: why do you not have a backup?
[01:08] <zykotick9> JPeterson: doesn't nautilus have bookmarks?  And a symlink does sound like what you want.
[01:08] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: no it doesn't
[01:09] <joe_____> i still want know what a logical partition is lol...
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: run:   ln -s $HOME/Pictures ~/Desktop/Pictures     Then on the desktop double click the Pictures folder
[01:09] <zykotick9> joe_____: a partition inside an extended partition
[01:09] <JPeterson> zykotick9: how do i place a bookmark on the desktop for example?
[01:09] <_Marcus> Is there a command line only version of Linux?
[01:09] <_Marcus> Wait
[01:09] <_Marcus> Not linux
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> Toftor: why do you not have a backup?
[01:09] <_Marcus> Ubuntu
[01:09] <FloodBot1> _Marcus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:09] <ruger2824> good evening
[01:09] <zykotick9> JPeterson: i doubt you can.  Use a symlink.
[01:09] <cfhowlett> !server|_marcus
[01:09] <_Marcus> Besides Ubuntu Server
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: server or minimal
[01:10] <urlin2u> joe_____, yeah it's a secret not available on the web.
[01:10] <joe_____> nothing really logical about that, unless it is LVM
[01:10] <_Marcus> I need to compile something, I just dont want GUI
[01:10] <_Marcus> And I tried server
[01:10] <cfhowlett> !mini|_marcus
[01:10] <_Marcus> Doesn't work
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: add the boot option: text   and it will not load the desktop
[01:10] <_Marcus> How do I do that?
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: you can then remove it and boot the desktop as normal
[01:10] <joe_____> i know of LPARs, but that is way different
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> _Marcus: add it in /etc/default/grub  in the quotes with:  quiet splash    then run:  sudo update-grub    reboot to test
[01:11] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: that brings me to ~/Desktop/Pictures not $HOME/Pictures
[01:11] <tylerl> cfhowlett: You said yo uhave the h555 headphones? Do you have the version where you can unplug the headphone/microphone line from the USB box, or do you have the newer one where you can't disconnect it?
[01:11] <joe_____> ahh, i get it logical partion is windows terminology...no wonder
[01:11] <Roxy``> lol
[01:11] <cfhowlett> tylerl: USB plu
[01:12] <joe_____> exit
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: yes, but the data is the same data, the path gets modified due to the link
[01:12] <tylerl> cfhowlett: they both have USB plug -- can you unplug your headset FROM the usb box? so the headphones can stand alone?
[01:12] <_Marcus> Where can I get the torrent of Ubuntu?
[01:12] <urlin2u> ubuntu.com _Marcus
[01:12] <zykotick9> joe_____: logical paritions are NOT a windows term
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: if you want the true path you can make a launcher to run something like:  nautilus ~/Pictures     and it will work as you expect
[01:12] <cfhowlett> tylerl: ah.  no
[01:13] <tylerl> cfhowlett: the reason why I ask is my older ones work fine, but my newer ones (same model number, different design) are quiet.
[01:13] <cfhowlett> _Marcus: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt
[01:14] <cfhowlett> tylerl: is there hardware volume control
[01:14] <tylerl> cfhowlett: yes.
[01:14] <tylerl> cfhowlett: 100%
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> !torrents | _Marcus
[01:14] <cfhowlett> tylerl: sorry, man.  IDK why it's acting like that
[01:15] <Stygian> urlin2u http://pastebin.com/dtFZsmqv
[01:15] <Stygian> that's the boot script results
[01:15] <artichoku> sup ppl
[01:17] <urlin2u> Stygian, did you make a separate home for ubuntu or install it to one partition
[01:17] <Stygian> I made three partitions /boot / and /home
[01:17] <Stygian> urlin2u, I made three partitions /boot / and /home
[01:19] <urlin2u> stygian idea, just reinstall it in one partition is my advice since it is a fresh install. No boot partition is needed, and ubuntu is setup theses days for a single partition install unless you have to have home separate for upgrades or change of releases, but this is just my opinion
[01:20] <lehzeni> So how is the dd going, Roxy`` ?
[01:20] <Stygian> urlin2u, I like to have /home on a seperate partion just incase os needs to be installed, I don't have to worry about losing everything in /home or need to do a backup
[01:20] <urlin2u> Stygian, if you had a windows OS it is missing boot stuff now as well.
[01:20] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: ok thx
[01:21] <Stygian> yes I had windows on the drive first
[01:21] <urlin2u> Stygian, never have installed that way so I can't really give advice there.
[01:21] <Stygian> but deleted the partitions then made new ones and formatted them
[01:21] <cordoval> what is the sudo apt-get install exact command for these requirements? +Dom +exif +ftp +gd2 +hash +iconv +xml +mbstring +mysql +pcre +SimpleXML +sockets +xsl +zlib +mail +mcrypt +pdo +CURL +JSON +gettext ?
[01:21] <Tasmania> There is like 1,000 people in here.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Stygian: what if the drive motor fails?
[01:22] <urlin2u> Stygian, sda3 is the windows boot partition I believe
[01:22] <Stygian> urlin2u, no that's the system repair
[01:22] <Stygian> to restore the laptop to factory
[01:22] <Tasmania> There's def going to be spam in this room
[01:22] <Poliwag> Hi, does anyone have time to answer a few questions for a newbie looking to sharpen up his skills?
[01:22] <bazhang> Tasmania, actual support question?
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Tasmania: with spambots and floodbots and ops. I would be suprised
[01:23] <urlin2u> Stygian, ah I see the recovery, now that will be a challenge to get to work.
[01:23] <lehzeni> Poliwag: why not?
[01:23] <bazhang> cordoval, tab-complete them
[01:23] <cfhowlett> Stygian: you do have re-installation media, right??
[01:23] <cordoval> bazhang: it is very ambiguous
[01:23] <ruger2824> anyone know a commandthat will display the ip address on a remote ssh user?
[01:23] <Stygian> cfhowlett, yeah but none of the drivers or the software the pc comes with
[01:23] <rone-> hey guys, i'm having some trouble trying to kickstart a box.  i have a preseed.cfg that works fine in lucid, but gets stuck at partman in oneiric
[01:23] <Stygian> which is not a big deal really
[01:23] <rone-> the preseed is at http://ennui.org/preseed.cfg.txt
[01:24] <bazhang> cordoval, it's something you can answer, not a single answer applies
[01:24] <cordoval> like ~ sudo apt-get install zlib
[01:24] <cordoval> zlib1g      zlib1g-dbg  zlib1g-dev  zlib-bin    zlibc       zlib-gst
[01:24] <cfhowlett> Stygian: you have to request it from the OEM company.  If you're dual booting, I highly recommend it.
[01:24] <cfhowlett> !paste|cardoval
[01:24] <Poliwag> How do i got about getting started in joining an open source project?
[01:24] <urlin2u> Poliwag, this is support really.
[01:24] <Stygian> cfhowlett, I have the recovery disc
[01:24] <Stygian> that they send out
[01:24] <bazhang> cordoval, tell the channel exactly what you are trying to achieve first
[01:24] <Stygian> and im not going to dual boot
[01:24] <Stygian> it's going to be a 100% linux desktop laptop
[01:25] <cfhowlett> Stygian: not the same thing - but ok
[01:25] <cordoval> bazhang: just getting the exact command for ubuntu for fulfilling this requirement here https://docs.phraseanet.com/en/Admin/Prerequisite.html
[01:25] <bazhang> !contribute > Poliwag
[01:25] <bazhang> cordoval, to achieve what exactly
[01:25] <urlin2u> Stygian, better pray that, that recovery will trigger the recovery on the HD if thats your plan in the end
[01:25] <cordoval> to be able to install the software phraseanet
[01:26] <cordoval> https://docs.phraseanet.com/en/Admin/Prerequisite.html
[01:26] <JPeterson> vmsync is not running after 11.10 upgrade
[01:26] <Stygian> urlin2u, whys that? worse case is like cfhowlett said order the cd from samsung
[01:26] <cfhowlett> Stygian: I triple boot.  Ordered ALL the install media from Dell and killed the recovery partition.
[01:26] <Guest77817> test
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> !test | Guest77817
[01:27] <urlin2u> Stygian, a install disc is what you want a oem without the extra stuff is best.
[01:27] <Chucky_Luciano> hi guys..  quick ques:  did they ever finish ubuntu service panel 3?  i have searched everywhere
[01:27] <Stygian> urlin2u that's what i already have
[01:28] <Stygian> I think I will do what cfhowlett suggestioned, order the media disc from samsung and just wipe all partitions
[01:28] <bazhang> Chucky_Luciano, you mean for 10.04 ?
[01:28] <urlin2u> Stygian, cool you called it a recovery and uyou have a recovery on the hd do you see the difficulty in interpreting your sistuation or intentions.
[01:28] <Tasmania> There's def going to be spam
[01:28] <urlin2u> in the end Stygian
[01:28] <Canadian1296> For anyone who wasn't here before, I'm doing this in virtualbox so I don't have to worry about messing up. I was reading a forum online and someone mentioned dual booting (both linux), with a fully encrypted drive and decryption keys on a different drive. If no key drive is available it boots to one the first os, and the other one isnt available as it is still completely encrypted. If the key drive is plugged in, it decrypts the
[01:28] <Canadian1296> boots to it. (note the plausable deniability)
[01:28] <bazhang> Tasmania, dont add to it
[01:28] <Canadian1296> Any pointers about how to do this?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: true, you can make a backup of your disk image and restore if things go screwy
[01:29] <Stygian> urlin2u, yees because there's a restore partition and also a restore cd
[01:29] <Stygian> dunno why they gave me both
[01:29] <Canadian1296> ActionParsnip: Exactly. Anyway I want to try that. Any ideas on how?
[01:29] <kah_> Hey I'm getting a window - Unlock Private Key -- Enter password to unlock the private key
[01:30] <kah_> any ideas?
[01:30] <urlin2u> Stygian, I just clone stuff a oem dic most likely will overwrite the whole disc a clone will install what you had same size.
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> Canadian1296: no idea. I steer clear of encrypted drive nonesense, too many headaches
[01:30] <Chucky_Luciano> bazhang, dont matter really...  i am using mint 11 right now which is based on  ubuntu 11.04, and i installed ubuntu system panel 2.01-00, its the latest one i could find...  the mint menu is based on that, but U.S.P. has better customization
[01:30] <cfhowlett> kah_: on boot??
[01:30] <Canadian1296> ActionParsnip: Okay, thanks anyways
[01:30] <Canadian1296> Anyone else?
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> Chucky_Luciano: mint isn't supported here
[01:30] <bazhang> Chucky_Luciano, check in mint support
[01:30] <Chucky_Luciano> but no transparency in v2...  screenshots and videos showing usp3 show transparency
[01:30] <kah_> cfhowlett: just trying to install github
[01:30] <bazhang> !mint > Chucky_Luciano
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> !mint | Chucky_Luciano
[01:30] <jsutho> cw on
[01:31] <cfhowlett> kah_: check the github installation wiki - they require a key
[01:31] <jsutho> cw
[01:31] <Chucky_Luciano> ActionParsnip, and bazhang, i wasnty ashink a mint specific question so no need to sick ubottu on me
[01:31] <Tasmania> There's like 1,400+ people in here.
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> Chucky_Luciano: you are using Mint, mint isn't supported here
[01:31] <Chucky_Luciano> are you going to ban me?
[01:31] <_Marcus> Doesn't Linux Mint use the same packages as Ubuntu?
[01:31] <Tasmania> Almost 1,500
[01:31] <Chucky_Luciano> fine ill leave
[01:31] <Oer> Chucky_Luciano, mint has many differences we dont want to kno
[01:31] <Chucky_Luciano> yes it does marcus
[01:31] <bazhang> Tasmania, yes thats right. no need to count as they come and go
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> Tasmania: come here the day after release, thats when it gets really jumping
[01:31] <Tasmania> Just, 1,496
[01:32] <rone-> guys, i'm having some trouble trying to kickstart a box.  i have a preseed.cfg that works fine in lucid, but gets stuck at partman in oneiric. the preseed is at http://ennui.org/preseed.cfg.txt
[01:32] <Chucky_Luciano> its not like i was asking a question about mint at all
[01:32] <Chucky_Luciano> i was asking a questrion about ubuntu, and about an ubunt package
[01:32] <bazhang> Tasmania, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[01:32] <_Marcus> Chucky_Luciano: Either way, Mint has an IRC chat
[01:32] <bazhang> Chucky_Luciano, packages.ubuntu.com and take a look
[01:32] <cfhowlett> !mint|chuck_luciano
[01:33] <Chucky_Luciano> and if i have a question about mint i will ask it in there..  i was asking a question about ubuntu system panel
[01:33] <Roxy``> I am about to use wine to get a program called isotousb to burn the iso to the usb will wine have trouble noticing my usb drive?
[01:33] <Chucky_Luciano> thanks for the help guys
[01:33] <Tasmania> Sorry if I was annoying you guys
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: why, unetbootin and usb-creator are available an NATIVE
[01:33] <bazhang> Roxy``, no need for that, use the usb creator or unetbootin
[01:33] <Tasmania> I don't know who diconnected my account.
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: why use some windows app via wine, makes no sense at all
[01:34] <Canadian1296> Is there a channel relating to general linux security?
[01:34] <bazhang> Tasmania, lets stop it, you haven't stopped yet
[01:34] <Oer> rone-, at what part you got stuck ?
[01:34] <Tasmania> ^ what?
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: thats about as smart as downloading firefox and thunderbord from the web and runnning those in wine
[01:34] <Roxy``> unetbootin made a linux booter and left the option "Defeult" and I tried to go through to it and it just keeps throwing me back to the same screen for the windows iso
[01:34] <bazhang> !ot | Tasmania
[01:34] <bazhang> Tasmania, chatter goes there. here is support ONLY
[01:34] <Tasmania> bazhang, What did you mean?
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[01:35] <cfhowlett> !trolling
[01:35] <rone-> Oer, it doesn't automatically use the whole disk. it asks me what i want to do instead.
[01:35] <Tasmania> I'm not a troll.
[01:35] <rone-> on lucid it just goes.
[01:35] <dsplayer14> whats the command used to start ratpoison? Im using ubuntu 11.10 if it matters.
[01:35] <Tasmania> Where do I go for chatter bazhang?
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Tasmania: #ubuntu+1
[01:35] <Tasmania> I just want to make sure I'm not annoying you guys.
[01:36] <Tasmania> ok
[01:36] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic  <----------------- Tasmania
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> Tasmania: you can chat about anything in there you like :)
[01:36] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, thats not correct
[01:36] <urlin2u> Tasmania, sorry to late no soup for you. :)
[01:36] <Tasmania> Alright bye.
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: its close enough to the truth as is needed ;)
[01:36] <urlin2u> lol
[01:36] <Oer> rone-, looks clean and valid to me, so i wonder ..
[01:37] <rone-> Oer, me too. it is frustrating
[01:37] <Bsims> Grr lost system bell on upgrade
[01:37] <Bsims> this is starting to piss me off it will work upgrade gone again, then it comes back for no reason
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: which DE?
[01:39] <Roxy``> usb-creator won't even notice the windows iso but it sure in hell picks up on the ubuntu iso though.
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: great isnt it :)
[01:39] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: Pretty fucked up if you asked me.
[01:39] <Roxy``> LOL
[01:39] <zykotick9> rosseaux: usb-creator is ubuntu only
[01:39] <urlin2u> Roxy``, usb creator is for ubuntu only basically
[01:39] <cordoval> hi I am getting a compilation error
[01:39] <cordoval> compiling a php module undefined reference to `mysql_server_init'
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: it being for ubuntu only and not windows, makes it cool :)
[01:40] <cordoval> anyone has seen that kind of error before?
[01:40] <JPeterson> how do i rebuild /etc/init.d/open-vm-tools?
[01:40] <Roxy``> So looks like Ia m getting wine apparantly.
[01:40] <Roxy``> and getting that windows app for the usb
[01:40] <Roxy``> XD
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: check the appdb, make sure its a compatible app
[01:40] <Oer> rone-, maybe the example @ https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/installation-guide/hppa/preseed-using.html is any help
[01:40] <nnatomltop> Can some one explain to me why ubuntu went with a program called apt daemon  ... That eats all the cpu and seems to fail at its job half the time.
[01:41] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: kde
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: let me search
[01:41] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: running urxvt
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: is pcspkr loaded?
[01:42] <Oer> rone-, look for the section ### Partitioning
[01:42] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: was last I knew let me check
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: I suggest you run:   echo "pcspkr" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules     and it will load at start and load the system beep (annoying imho)
[01:43] <Dillman09> I have an Lenovo x200s and havent going from ubuntu 10.4 to 11.10 I have a serious decrease in battery life. I've read all about the kernel bug but havent been able to fix it. i hear its going to be patched in 3.2.5, but I'm not sure if its the same bug. Does anyone have experience with this? or at least have an idea when 3.2.5 is going to be released?
[01:43] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, Sadly Apt-Daemon was the last straw for me.  I tried to tolerate ubuntu.  I switched all 4 systems over to Debian. The one last ubuntu system I just kill apt daemon every time it starts up and manually tell apt-get to upgrade.
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: so why are you here? This is a support channel...?
[01:44] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, Because I am hopeing you can give me an idea of how to remove apt-daemon for good from my last remaining system. I don't have time to deal with it.
[01:44] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: lenovo no longer sells that model, so I'm guessing it's old(er) tech.  Strongly suggest you stick with LTS releases and/or consider switching to x/l/buntu as they support lower spec machines
[01:44] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: its loaded now and still nothing
[01:45] <Oer> Dillman09, kernel 3.2x is available in the next version 12.04, i would not advise to use it in 11.10
[01:45] <Bsims> just a second and I'll restart this screen
[01:45] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: thank you it worked
[01:45] <Canadian1296> Booted fresh install of Ubuntu 11.10 (In VirtualBox), decrypted LVM encrypted partition, it said decryption was successful, and now I have (In orange text if it matters) "mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth"
[01:46] <Bsims> lol got to restart screen to get it to take but beep works
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: np man, seems weird the module isn't loaded consistantly
[01:46] <Dillman09> it runs a core 2 duo l9400 . should i downgrade back to 10.04 or 10.1? or wait till the new 12.04?
[01:46] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: appdb?
[01:46] <beata|lemur> *headdesk* I'm not sure where to start. Attempting to get oneiric to run on an Armada E500, possibly the same issues? (I just got in)
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | Roxy``
[01:46] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: LTS only is a whole LOT less heartbreaking.  go with 10.04 until 12.04 arrive.
[01:47] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: Just found out the hardware that wine can't even detect my usb drive, thats REALLY fucked up
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> beata|lemur: if you tell us your issue instead of that stuff, we can help
[01:47] <Dillman09> ok good call i appriciate it
[01:47] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: the ubuntu devs have a nasty jihad against it, as I understand it the beep needed a complete rewrite, as it conflicted with unicode support for international languages
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: please keep the language family friendly
[01:47] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: what other iso to usb program do you know of?
[01:47] <Dillman09> in terms of 10.04. do you think there are any security concerns for just using that long term?
[01:48] <Bsims> Dillman09: actual vs in theory
[01:48] <Dillman09> ok
[01:48] <Dillman09> good enough
[01:48] <pangolin> How can i get the internal ip of all the devices on my network?
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: 1 2 3 app from pendrivelinux
[01:48] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: 10.40 is LTS so it's supported for 36 months.  12.04 will get 5 year support...
[01:48] <rone-> Oer, thanks, i will check that out, hope it works
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> pangolin: nmap
[01:48] <javier_> Hi! I'm having problems in my laptop (I believe hardware problems) with ubuntu11.10. I runned memtest and reported no errors. If I boot ubuntu or windows7, it takes 30 mins. Now I booted from ubuntu live USB. Someone has an idea what can it mean? Does it tell something about where can be the problem! Appreciate your help!
[01:48] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: I don't want linux bootloaders on my windows iso startup -_-
[01:49] <Dillman09> what do you say about an in place upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 when it is released? for whatever reason, i'm always a fan of fresh installs
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: its not something ive had to use. the grub and lilo bootloaders can boot windows
[01:49] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, I needed a simple system that my clients can use.  Not one that changes entirely every upgrade.  After ubuntu switched to Unity fully and messed up the updating system.   I had to remove my social and phisical support of the system. I can no longer trust ubuntu.   I seem to still be cleaning up the mess.
[01:49] <bazhang> Roxy``, this is not the place for support of that: ##windows
[01:49] <beata|lemur> Sure! Current issue is 'Failed to load session gnome'
[01:49] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: clean install is preferred but in place is do-able
[01:49] <Roxy``> bazhang: I am STUCK in ubuntu, and need help with it.
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: you don't have to use unity
[01:50] <Roxy``> bazhang: I am sure ##windows wouldn't be able to help me with a ubuntu **** up XD
[01:50] <Oer> pangolin, nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24 >> That will ping every address between <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> and list those it finds
[01:50] <bazhang> Roxy``, you are trying to create a windows iso start up. there are no ubuntu tools for that
[01:50] <bazhang> Roxy``, last warning on the foul language
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: I use LXDE and there is no Unity there. Also if you use xfce or KDE or ANY other DE, you will not get Unity by default
[01:50] <Dillman09> ok, i'll make sure to test 12.04 on a new disk to ensure that the power issue is resolved before rebuilding. really appreciate the help
[01:50] <pangolin> ActionParsnip Oer thank you
[01:51] <Roxy``> bazhang: What other software is there to burn an iso to the usb.
[01:51] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: good luck  - don't forget to look at x/l/buntu
[01:51] <Bsims> Roxy``: try Linuxlive usb creator or unetbootin and feed it your windows iso
[01:51] <Dillman09> which would you recommend?
[01:51] <Bsims> unetbootin runs in linux
[01:51] <Dillman09> im open to any sugguestions
[01:51] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: install virtual box and try them both!  Win!
[01:51] <bazhang> Roxy``, you are asking about burning a windows iso to usb, this is the wrong place for it. ##windows is the correct place
[01:51] <Roxy``> Bsims: Unetbootin and windows aren't actually FRIENDS.
[01:51] <Bsims> Roxy``: ya asked for ideas
[01:52] <Dillman09> i spend most of my day using virtual box. so i'm ultimately looking for a stable vbox platform
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: you could get another windows user near t you to make you a bootable windows USB, probably easier
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> Dillman09: virtualbox, qemu and vmware are options
[01:52] <Roxy``> bazhang: Like ##windows would know the proper software to use IN ubuntu
[01:52] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: I'd tend to favor xubuntu as hosts then
[01:53] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, Alright I will have to figure that out later.   Still I preferred ubuntu when it was simple and sleak, close to Debian.  ....   Do I just use apt-get install gnome to get back to the base system ?
[01:53] <Dillman09> and any particular release of xubuntu? i think i'd have to find one with an older kernel  or the new 3.2.5
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: Unity is a shell for Gnome, you already have gnome installed if you are using Unity
[01:54] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: 10.04 should run on your specs
[01:54] <beata|lemur> I would like to get the system to a reasonably stable state where I can work on dock/hotswap/ACPI support.
[01:54] <Dillman09> ok cool. going to download an .iso now
[01:54] <cfhowlett> Dillman09: good luck.
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: I suggest you run:  sudo apt-get install xfce4    and install xfce, use the xfce session and it will feel like Gnome2
[01:55] <Bsims> nnatomltop: xfce is good
[01:55] <Bsims> though I would give my eyeteeth to see kde have icon support like wmaker
[01:56] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, How do I switch shells?  and remove apt-daemon .....  742MB ram for the base system is unacceptable I feel like I am using windows.    One last question How does unity interact with the system and is it disabled by default?
[01:56]  * Bsims grins different functions based on middle click vs left click
[01:56] <Roxy``> ActionParsnip: Thats what am about to do, I am not about to be stuck awhole night in ubuntu's crap
[01:56] <lenswipe> hey guys
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: find a local buddy
[01:56] <beata|lemur> Ye gods.
[01:56] <lenswipe> is there a way i can do an ubuntu install in OEM mode?
[01:56] <lenswipe> i have ubuntu on a penstick for a netbook
[01:56] <Bsims> Roxy``: what did ya do to mess up your bootloader?
[01:57] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[01:57] <Bsims> lets start at the begining, feel free to PM
[01:57] <lenswipe> so i can just set all the techie stuff up and have it ask the user all the .....holy fuck
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: if you install gnome-shell you can press ALT+F2 and run:  gnome-shell --repace   and use that
[01:57] <lenswipe> all the user related non techy questions later
[01:57] <lenswipe> is that possible>
[01:57] <Roxy``> Bsims: I didn't do anything I used unetbootin to burn the windows 7 iso onto the usb drive and it screwed it all up.
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: if you wnat to switch desktop (not shell) then you need to log off and select it at login
[01:57] <JPeterson> open-vm-tools clipboard doesn't work
[01:57] <Bsims> lenswipe: easiest way is to copy a good set of dot files into the users home dir
[01:58] <h00k> !language | lenswipe
[01:58] <dRounse> Roxy``: im pretty sure you need a disk for win7
[01:58] <Bsims> that will copy all the configs
[01:58] <lenswipe> Bsims, what?
[01:58] <beata|lemur> This *is* old hardware, admittedly, P2/P3 era, so I don't expect it to be fast.
[01:58] <Ben64> Roxy``: this is an ubuntu support channel, for windows, join ##windows
[01:58] <Roxy``> dRounse: Not by far, you don't. I've installed it using a usb drive before.
[01:58] <lenswipe> Bsims, no, im doing an install for someone and i wont be around when they set the password and stuff up
[01:58] <Bsims> lenswipe: on every unix like OS ah
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> beata|lemur: if you use lubuntu or xubuntu it will be a bit faster
[01:58] <lenswipe> Bsims, i need them to choose this stuff after ive long gone
[01:59] <lenswipe> Bsims, i should mention this is a netbook
[01:59] <Bsims> lenswipe: Hrm have them email it to ya and ssh to it to set it?
[01:59] <Roxy``> Ben64: my issue is with ubuntu, only thing is I am stuck with the piece of crap trying to transfer an windows iso from it
[01:59] <Oer> lenswipe, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview  ( i think you need the dvd iso for that )
[01:59] <mhaz> Kubuntu not supported. Unity pushed. Why stay with Ubuntu?
[01:59] <lenswipe> Oer, will that fit on a penstick?
[01:59] <dRounse> i have a question regarding converting music files
[01:59] <lenswipe> Bsims, i would prefer this way
[01:59] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, Thanks.    Do you know what apt-daemon was supposed to accomplish.  It really confuses me.  Its like a big fancy annoying thing for what should be a simple user initiated simple public task.
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: install openssh-server and port forward port 22/TCP on their router, you can now remote access to fix some things
[01:59] <bazhang> mhaz, thats not a support question
[01:59] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, No.
[01:59] <Ben64> Roxy``: if you have a problem with ubuntu, ask a question. we're not here to help you install windows
[01:59] <lenswipe> :p
[01:59] <cfhowlett> dRounse: ask
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: not sure, is it ran as root or as user?
[02:00] <mhaz> Sorry. Thought discussion forum.
[02:00] <Bsims> lenswipe: can't think of anything of the top of my head other than set it up with an account named setup and have them add the new user from that then remove the user
[02:00] <Roxy``> Ben64: I don't need help installing Windows, Windows is way more simple. The problem is getting it burned on a usb stick from its iso format
[02:00] <bazhang> mhaz, there is one : #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:00] <JPeterson> open-vm-tools clipboard doesn't work
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: could try marking it as not executable and reboot, see if it helps :) You can always boot to liveCD and tweak it back if it causes issues
[02:00] <lenswipe> Bsims, ill just set it for them to automatically login i guess
[02:00] <lenswipe> ;/
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: any details.....
[02:00] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, It seems to be run as root.  Does not seem to talk to the update manager well.  Eats a lot of cpu and dosn't show what its doing.  I have a habit of killing things that I don't know what they are doing.
[02:00] <Bsims> Roxy``: and for the 11,482nd time in the wrong room
[02:01] <mhaz> dRounse: winff
[02:01] <Oer> lenswipe, 4 gb yes ( iso is 1.5 gb )
[02:01] <Roxy``> Bsims: Don't talk if you can't read. XD
[02:01] <dRounse> cfhowlett: i converted my music using sound converter, to 128 kbps and on the file when i look it says 48 kbps but the quality is not of 48 kbps is that normal?
[02:01] <cfhowlett> Roxy``: go to a friend.  borrow his windows machine.  create your media.  live long and prosper
[02:01] <beata|lemur> I can go give that a try, sure.
[02:01] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: I did apt-get --purge remove open-vm-tools, then sudo apt-get install open-vm-tools
[02:01] <JPeterson> that's it
[02:01] <mhaz> thanks
[02:01] <JPeterson> lsmod show all modules
[02:01] <cfhowlett> dRounse: "quality is no 48" means what??
[02:01] <bazhang> Roxy``, you're offtopic here, please take it to ##windows
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: https://launchpad.net/aptdaemon shows what it does
[02:02] <Bsims> lenswipe: i'd strongly advise setting up something like dyndns for it, my clients think I am a god for fixing it remotely via ssh
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: did it work before the removal?
[02:02] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: nope
[02:02] <JPeterson> lsmod show vmblock, vmsync, vmhgfs, vmci
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> nnatomltop: you can also see the bugs reported for the package
[02:02] <dRounse> cfhowlett: well the higher bitrate the better quality, but the quality of the songs i converted is definetly not 48 kbps.... is that normal for my computer to say 48 kbps
[02:02] <Bsims> lenswipe: and lets face it jim.bob.dyndns.org is easier than 123.456.789 if ya got to remember it
[02:02] <lenswipe> Bsims, i cant, its at my place
[02:03] <lenswipe> Bsims, theres a whole host of reasons why i can
[02:03] <lenswipe> cant*
[02:03]  * Bsims understands
[02:03] <lenswipe> i assume normal-buntu is kosha on a netbook?
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: define 'kosha'
[02:03] <Ben64> dRounse: it could be variable bitrate, so it could be 48kbit in some spots
[02:03] <lenswipe> i just find netbook remix repulsive
[02:03] <bazhang> !une | lenswipe
[02:03] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, it doesnt shit brix
[02:03] <Bsims> leave them a file with instructions on how to change the password
[02:04] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: problem was vmware-user-suid-wrapper wasn't run
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: netbook remix hasn't been developed for years now
[02:04] <bazhang> lenswipe, stop with the cursing
[02:04] <cfhowlett> dRounse: bring this question to #ubuntustudio
[02:04] <lenswipe> bazhang, im on 10.04 - can i just do dist-upgrade
[02:04] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: where is it supposed to run from?
[02:04] <Bsims> I've done that for windows with screenshots and everything
[02:04] <lenswipe> bazhang, apologies
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: its not something I use dude
[02:04] <JPeterson> someone else
[02:04] <dRounse> Ben64: so is that good or bad? i just want good quality but i dont want it taking up my whole hard drive
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: which release are you using?
[02:04] <JPeterson> where is ivmware-user-suid-wrapper supposed to run from?
[02:04] <bazhang> lenswipe, upgrade, dist-upgrade is something else
[02:04] <dRounse> Ben64: it doesnt seem different tho
[02:04] <Ben64> dRounse: for good quality, you'd probably want more than 128kbit to be honest
[02:04] <lenswipe> bazhang, upgrade just upgrades the packages
[02:04] <Bsims> lenswipe: wanting to upgrade via cli?
[02:05] <lenswipe> bazhang, i want to take 10.04 to whatever the latest stable version of ubuntu is
[02:05] <nnatomltop> ActionParsnip, Frankly that discription scares me, As a sys admin I don't want things out of my control.  I like to know EXACTLY what my computer is doing and why and who did it.  Aptdaemon almost is like saying, Users we now allow you to be stupid and install anything you like, Including viruses.
[02:05] <Ben64> lenswipe: 10.04 is the latest stable LTS version
[02:05] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, 10.04(for now)
[02:05] <dRounse> Ben64: well i really dont notice much of a difference with lower bitrate
[02:05] <lenswipe> Ben64, can i upgrade to 11.10 using dist-upgrade?
[02:05] <bazhang> lenswipe, you can go to 11.10 now, or wait a couple of months and go directly to 12.04 in one step
[02:06] <lenswipe> hmm
[02:06] <lenswipe> id prefer to go to 11.10 now because 10.04 doesnt have unity so when that suddenly appears this girl might freak
[02:06] <lenswipe> id rather things were just different from the beginning
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: thats why. You could hang til April then install Precise (12.04) as an LTS to LTS upgrade
[02:07] <JPeterson> the /etc/xdg/autostart/vmware-user.desktop is there as it sohuld be, but it's not launched
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: you don't have to use Unity
[02:07] <Bsims> lenswipe: "sudo apt-get install update-manager-core" edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal then do "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: if you install xfce4 in Oneiric you will not get the unity shell by default
[02:07] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[02:07] <Bsims> lenswipe: I've been running ubuntu for about a decade now, and the gui tool has never once worked, this always has
[02:08] <cordoval> where does mysql gets installed /var/lib/mysql? or /usr/lib/mysql?
[02:08] <cordoval> can someone please hint me?
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> cordoval: how is that done?
[02:09] <lenswipe> Bsims, what has?
[02:09] <cordoval> sudo apt-get install
[02:10] <Bsims> lenswipe: the server upgrade method I posted
[02:10] <Bsims> lenswipe: its two commands
[02:10] <Bsims> well three
[02:10] <lenswipe> Bsims, i never saw them
[02:10] <lenswipe> :(
[02:10] <Bsims> lenswipe: "sudo apt-get install update-manager-core" edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal then do "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[02:10] <javier_> Hi, my laptop (ubuntu 11.10) is making problems: booting windows 7 or ubuntu takes 20-30 minutes and it's slow and unstable when working. Now I booted from ubuntu live USB, and it works well. Does it tell someone something about where can be the problem. I think is hardware problem, but don't know where... any ideas?
[02:10] <cordoval> ActionParsnip: ? sudo apt-get install way
[02:10] <fean0r> codoval: try whereis mysql
[02:10] <lenswipe> thx man
[02:11] <Bsims> and you only have to edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades once
[02:11] <Bsims> and its there forever
[02:11] <cordoval> thanks fean0r
[02:11] <Ben64> javier_: i'd guess hard drive, pastebin the result of this - "sudo fdisk -l"
[02:11] <cordoval> ~ whereis mysql
[02:11] <cordoval> mysql: /usr/bin/mysql /etc/mysql /usr/lib/mysql /usr/include/mysql /usr/share/mysql /usr/share/man/man1/mysql.1.gz
[02:11] <cordoval> why then am i getting the rror
[02:11] <cordoval> when compiling?
[02:11] <lenswipe> Bsims, thx man
[02:11] <Bsims> cordoval: install mysql-lib
[02:12] <Bsims> the lib packages are needed to compile not to run it
[02:12] <Bsims> so its split off
[02:12] <cordoval> Bsims: hmm sudo apt-get install mysql-lib fails
[02:13] <Ben64> javier_: if you pasted anything, i didn't see it
[02:13] <Bsims> cordoval: heh what version of mysql ya running, I'll give you the proper name
[02:13] <javier_> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/Gse2FhKe I'm afraid it's in spanish... don't know if you will guess what means, but I can tell you if you ask. Thanks
[02:13] <cordoval> Bsims: mysql  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.5.19, for debian-linux-gnu (x86_64) using readline 6.2
[02:14] <javier_> Ben64, or, how to get it in spanish
[02:15] <Ben64> javier_: what is the 16GB drive?
[02:16] <Bsims> cordoval: install libmysqlclient-dev
[02:16] <Ben64> javier_: now pastebin this - "sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sdb"
[02:16] <javier_> Ben64, ah... I see. I'm in ubuntu live cd, and that's my usb information. So, it's not useful for us
[02:16] <cordoval> Bsims: i think i already have that
[02:16] <Bsims> cordoval also install synaptic its a good gui for package management
[02:16] <javier_> Ben64, I mean, ubuntu live usb+
[02:16] <cordoval> Bsims: libmysqlclient-dev is already the newest version.
[02:17] <Ben64> javier_: it will be useful
[02:17] <cordoval> Bsims: there is a lot of network splits
[02:17] <The_Weather_Guy> What the fudge?
[02:17] <Bsims> cordoval: try installing libmysqld-dev
[02:18] <cordoval> I did
[02:18] <cordoval> oh d
[02:18] <javier_> Ben64, but, as I said, here on ubuntu live usb it works well, but if I boot from my hard drive ubuntu or windows, is when I find the problem. So, we would need to test hard drive to detect the prblem
[02:18] <pangolin> !netsplit | These are planned splits folks and should be over soon.
[02:18] <cordoval> libmysqld-dev is already the newest version.
[02:18] <The_Weather_Guy> Too many netsplits
[02:18] <stephan> help
[02:19] <cordoval> Bsims: libmysqld-dev is already the newest version.
[02:19] <MrKeuner> any fail2ban users out there? I am looking for nice fail2ban jail.configuration
[02:19] <Ben64> javier_: but if you pastebin this - "sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sdb" it will show the hard drive speed, which i'm thinking the problem is
[02:19] <szal> pangolin: network admins could've issued a note at least ;)
[02:19] <pangolin> szal: they did
[02:19]  * Bsims doesn't know then cordoval what is the exact error
[02:19] <pangolin> szal: /umode +w
[02:19] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  cant say i ever used that feature of fail2ban
[02:19] <Bsims> cordoval: install synaptic and start browsing the -dev packages for sql
[02:19] <szal> pangolin: they usually give out one public message for all
[02:19] <MrKeuner> Dr_willis, you can enable new rules. such as rules for w00t w00t maniac
[02:19] <cordoval> Bsims: https://gist.github.com/1764565
[02:20] <pangolin> szal: tomaw/Wallops- Okay, sorry for that noise; we're done now!
[02:20] <Tasmania> Guys how can you download your wiki domain into mediawiki?
[02:20] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  not sure why i would need to. :) i just ban based on how many ssh attempts.
[02:20] <JPeterson> where is vmware-user-suid-wrapper autostarted from? /etc/xdg/autostart/vmware-user.desktop is there as it sohuld be, but it's not launched.
[02:20] <MrKeuner> Dr_willis, so your fail2ban is not monitoring anything else than sshd
[02:21] <MrKeuner> I use it for monitoring other logs as well
[02:21] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  ssh is basically the only public service i got going on my server. so yes.
[02:21] <MrKeuner> cool
[02:21] <Bsims> cordoval: hit this bug? http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=38009
[02:21] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  ssh and znc is all  have  going.
[02:21] <javier_> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/Zk63SrqP
[02:21] <The_Weather_Guy> Yay! I finally finished setting up ubuntu
[02:21] <The_Weather_Guy> :)
[02:21] <make> i need use Skybe for ubuntu 64bit .how to???
[02:22] <cordoval> Bsims: that seems unrelated
[02:22] <Ben64> javier_: yep, you need a new hard drive
[02:22] <Dr_willis> !skype | make
[02:22] <cfhowlett> !skype|make
[02:22] <cordoval> Bsims: I am just trying to install the indexer here https://docs.phraseanet.com/en/Admin/Prerequisite.html
[02:22] <MrKeuner> Dr_willis, you can monitor any log with fail2ban, including znv, or vnc?
[02:22] <jane-doe_> Hello
[02:22] <cfhowlett> jane-doe_: greetings
[02:22] <Bsims> cordoval: I know less than nothing about sql on ubuntu sorry but assuming ya got all the dev libs, gonna assume bad code
[02:22] <javier_> Ben64, Ops... where do you see it?
[02:22] <cordoval> Bsims: https://gist.github.com/1764595
[02:22] <The_Weather_Guy> Floodbot
[02:23] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  never really needed to.  I have  only the 2 exposed services forwarded through my router.  I cant say i ever noticed many znc attempts. Just ssh.
[02:23] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  not even running those at this time.
[02:23] <MrKeuner> change your ssh port and you won't even see those ones
[02:23] <T_H_X> :)
[02:23] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  i have changed my port. i still get ssh break in attempts.
[02:23] <Bsims> cordoval: that looks reasonable sorry man I dunno
[02:23] <cordoval> :(
[02:24] <cordoval> :'(
[02:24] <MrKeuner> Dr_willis, really? didn't know that
[02:24] <Ben64> javier_: compare your speed to mine, http://pastebin.com/QBRAc0ZA
[02:24] <MrKeuner> Dr_willis, I recenlt enabled a jail configuration for fail2ban.log itself
[02:24] <Bsims> cordoval: is the call hardcoded in the script?
[02:24] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  just random scans. - I also have ssh set up where it onlyu works with key based auth. so no password attempts will work.   and the fail2ban (i think) is set where they get like 3 tries and they are banned.
[02:24] <MrKeuner> if someone gets banned three times for 300 sec, they get banned for 10 days for instance
[02:25] <cordoval> Bsims: you mean configure script?
[02:25] <Dr_willis> MrKeuner:  if they get banned here.. they are banned. :)
[02:25] <Bsims> cordoval: yeah seen that with newbie code
[02:25] <MrKeuner> Dr_willis, that's another way :)
[02:25] <Dr_willis> I only rarely ssh in from my phone lately. or machines on localhost.
[02:25] <Tasmania> How can you install a wiki domain into your mediawiki server?
[02:26] <cordoval> Bsims: https://github.com/alchemy-fr/Phraseanet-Indexer/blob/master/configure.ac
[02:26] <javier_> Ben64, yes, I see. But I repeated the command in terminal and it changes all the time the speed. For example, now it reported: http://pastebin.com/cQz89gHw
[02:26] <cordoval> AC_PATH_PROG([MYSQL_CONFIG], [mysql_config], , $PATH/usr/bin:/usr/local/mysql/bin)
[02:26] <beata|lemur> Downloading ...
[02:27] <MrKeuner> Dr_willis, i could write jail configuration for any log file, If I had understood regexp
[02:27] <cordoval> Bsims: https://github.com/alchemy-fr/Phraseanet-Indexer/blob/master/configure.ac#L28
[02:27] <Ben64> javier_: it should be consistent. that first time with the KB/s speed is very bad. hard drive needs to be replaced
[02:27] <Bsims> all looks reasonable but I don't know if the fixed locations in the file match where ubutnu sticks things
[02:27] <cordoval> they work in mac
[02:28] <cordoval> wonder where do they deploy to though
[02:28] <javier_> Ben64, ok. Actually, I believe that is the problem. With that speed it will be a hard work to save all the data I have there...
[02:28] <Bsims> cordoval: do a locate mysql|grep bin
[02:28] <Roxy``> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[02:28] <Roxy``> yay!
[02:28] <Roxy``> ^.^
[02:29] <FloodBot1> Roxy``: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:29] <cordoval> Bsims: https://gist.github.com/1764680
[02:29] <Roxy``> making a bootable from ubuntu
[02:29] <Roxy``> XD
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> Roxy``: yep, use unetbootin, which we told you...
[02:30] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip: again and again...
[02:31] <Bsims> cordoval: look to see where mysql-lib sticks things
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: maybe its a windows user thing
[02:31] <Bsims> cordoval: got the idea?
[02:31] <cfhowlett> LOL!
[02:31] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: i was thinking the same thing, didn't want to say it
[02:31] <cordoval> Bsims: no, those look like binaries
[02:31] <Dr_willis> work time for me.. bbl.
[02:32] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: http://lmgtfy.com/ is my new help search engine
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> Bsims: haha, I use: www.duckduckgo.com  usually. The bang syntax is aweomse
[02:33]  * cordoval has prying eyes for a good solution to his problem compiling phrasea simple app on ubuntu
[02:33] <JPeterson> where is vmware-user-suid-wrapper autostarted from? /etc/xdg/autostart/vmware-user.desktop is there as it sohuld be, but it's not launched.
[02:33] <Bsims> hrm then right click on the lib in synaptic and look for installed files
[02:34] <Bsims> cordoval: then right click on the lib in synaptic and look for installed files
[02:34] <Bsims> ActionParsnip: yes but my way is more insulting <g>
[02:34] <bazhang> Bsims, dont use that here, ever.
[02:35] <cordoval> Bsims: https://gist.github.com/1764706
[02:37] <cordoval> Bsims: sounds like /usr/include/mysql
[02:37] <cordoval> is the place
[02:37] <cordoval> now should i tell ./configure --libdir=/usr/include/mysql? or what
[02:37] <Bsims> cordoval: so point the part that is looking for libs to /usr/include/mysql to be honest its past my paygrade
[02:38] <Bsims> cordoval: the script is assuming its built from scratch
[02:38] <nnatomltop> anyone know what Distribution of Linux, Google uses?
[02:38] <JPeterson> how do i change encoding ansi utf-8?
[02:38] <cordoval> hmm Bsims from scratch?
[02:38] <Bsims> cordoval: yeah I am fond of checkinstall for making quick and dirty packages
[02:39] <Bsims> shove it in /usr/local as an install location and bob's your uncle
[02:39] <cordoval> Bsims:  sorry you slang is getting me lost already
[02:40] <cordoval> what should I try in specific
[02:40] <cordoval> so change this line ? AC_PATH_PROG([MYSQL_CONFIG], [mysql_config], , $PATH/usr/bin:/usr/local/mysql/bin)
[02:40] <Bsims> cordoval: checkinstall will make a quick and dirty package, that is handled like anything else... or see if that package has a ubuntu flavor
[02:41] <cordoval> hmm
[02:42] <Bsims> cordoval: the install script is assuming installed from scratch to /usr/local/mysql
[02:42] <cordoval> oh hmm
[02:42] <cordoval> so but how to correct it I am wondering
[02:42] <Bsims> cordoval: In actual fact I'd fire someone for writing it
[02:42] <cordoval> I can make a PR correcting it
[02:42] <cordoval> but need to understand it first
[02:43] <cordoval> this is on github sothey will surely take PRs https://github.com/alchemy-fr/Phraseanet-Indexer/blob/master/configure.ac#L28
[02:43] <cordoval> help me firing them
[02:43] <adam123> Hi guys, I just upgraded to 11.10 was running 10.10 for a while, although now I keep on getting a message saying 'panic occurred, switching back to text console' never had this problem before, any ideas? Thanks in advanced.
[02:43] <Bsims> easiest way is to patch the install script, or install it by hand I'd see if the addon is already packaged first
[02:44] <Bsims> cordoval: my only sql experence is with sql/400 on a IBM I series
[02:44] <cordoval> I think you want me to run sudo checkinstall
[02:45] <Tasmania> How can you download mediawiki into your server?
[02:45] <Bsims> not a bad idea makes it easier to uninstall
[02:45]  * Bsims goes off insearch of food
[02:45] <cordoval> but Bsims the thing fails on make
[02:45] <cordoval> not make install
[02:48] <Tasmania> wow
[02:49] <cfhowlett> adam123: hardware??
[02:50] <lenswipe> hey guys
[02:50] <lenswipe> i cant install openssh-server
[02:50] <lenswipe> it says the package has no installation candidate and that its referred to by another package or something
[02:50] <Raymond_> anybody familiar with phpBB3
[02:50] <bazhang> lenswipe, whats the error, pastebin it
[02:50] <lenswipe> if i search for it in synaptic i only get openssh client
[02:50] <lenswipe> bazhang, it was a GTK error box
[02:50] <lenswipe> do i need to enable any extra repos?
[02:51] <bazhang> Raymond_, do you have a question related to that, if so please ask the channel
[02:51] <adam123> cfhowlett, hmmm... I think it may be an issue with my chipsets, I find it doesn't happen if I run in Ubuntu 2D? Just wasn't happening with the older version I was using / Linix Mint I had a while back. :)
[02:51] <cfhowlett> adam123: that's why I asked about hardware - I'd suspect your GPU.  Try 2d...
[02:51] <bazhang> adam123, unity-2d you mean?
[02:52] <trism> lenswipe: did you run: sudo apt-get update; yet?
[02:52] <adam123> Yeah unity-2d, really new to this. Its pretty awesome. Is this a new thing in 11.10?
[02:52] <bazhang> adam123, since 11.04 iirc
[02:52] <lenswipe> trism, no, that fixed it - thanks :D
[02:53] <bazhang> adam123, whats the video card ?
[02:53] <adam123> Oh call me old fashioned but I've been running 10.10 for a good while now. I hate change, but was thinking it was about time. 11.10 is pretty. <3
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: yep, Natty 11.04
[02:54] <gisli> hi guys, after using Arch for the last months I've forgotten how to start openssh and apache at startup? How is it done again?
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> adam123: Maverick is EOL in April this year so may want to upgrade soon. If you install Xubuntu it will look and feel like Maverick
[02:54] <h4ppy-b0t>  testing
[02:54] <h4ppy-b0t>  testing
[02:54] <h4ppy-b0t>  testing
[02:54] <h4ppy-b0t>  testing
[02:54] <h4ppy-b0t>  testing
[02:54] <FloodBot1> h4ppy-b0t: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> gisli: Arch isn't supported here
[02:54] <W4rl0ck> hello happy
[02:54] <cordoval> :'(
[02:54] <adam123> ActionParsnip, thanks for the advice!
[02:54] <W4rl0ck> ouch
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> adam123: np :)
[02:55] <W4rl0ck> that is my man happy!
[02:55] <Raymond_> host gator installed phpbb3 and i am having trouble finding the forum on the web to setup the admin. i assume i need to change some permissions, any ideas
[02:55] <christophe> quelqun parle francais ?
[02:55] <W4rl0ck> !help
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[02:55] <christophe> help
[02:55] <gisli> ActionParsnip: read what I wrote a little better, I'm on the Ubuntu channel after all...
[02:55] <Corey> wat
[02:55] <bazhang> W4rl0ck, remove the bot please
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> gisli: your question doesn't mention Ubuntu, only arch. What else am I to think...
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> gisli: in ubuntu the services once installed will be started and added to the startup sequence of the OS
[02:56] <adam123> Dumb question, but what is the command to find out the name of my video card? $ lspci doesn't seem to be working for me.
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> adam123: sudo lshw -C display
[02:57] <zykotick9> adam123: you might try "lspci | grep -i vga"
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> adam123: only the chip is important ;)
[02:57] <adam123> Thanks, means alot!
[02:57] <gisli> ActionParsnip: I mention I've forgotten how to start openssh and apache at startup because I've been using Arch for the last few months. And I'm in the ubuntu channel so I thought it was obvious I was asking about ubuntu ;)
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> adam123: thanks for the gratitude :)
[02:57] <gisli> ActionParsnip: but thanks ;)
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> gisli: np :)
[02:57] <adam123> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS482 [Radeon Xpress 200]
[02:59] <adam123> I don't really see it as an issue anymore, everything seems to be working fine in Unity 2D. Yay :)
[02:59] <adam123> I love you guys!
[02:59] <Roge152> Does anyone know why/how ubuntu would throttle an internet connection to 100kbps
[03:00] <Roge152> On the same machine, windows and other linux distros give me my full speed, but for some reason in ubuntu, both live CD and full install throttles my connection.
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> Roge152: disable ipv6 with the boot option: ipv6.disabl=1   if you don't use it, also try adding this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/sysctl  to /etc/sysctl.conf
[03:01] <Roge152> thanks
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> Roge152: run:  sudo sysctl -p   to apply
[03:02] <adam123> another question for you guys, I'm donating this computer at the end of this month, and just looking to wipe data of my HD. Been looking at using Dban is this the best soultion for the job?
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> adam123: there isn't really a best for anything
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> adam123: bleachbit can do it too
[03:03] <Ben64> adam123: just use dd and fill the drive with zeros
[03:03] <Ben64> adam123: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd<x>
[03:03] <adam123> Hmmm thanks! Just have a lot of personal work stuff I don't want ending up in the wrong hands. Thanks for your advice everyone!
[03:05] <iananananan> !grub
[03:06] <adam123> Anyways I'm off to bed now. Thanks for all your help everyone. G'night much love!
[03:09] <Raymond_> i am having trouble accessing phpbb3 forum admin to set it up
[03:16] <JPeterson> where is vmware-user-suid-wrapper autostarted from? /etc/xdg/autostart/vmware-user.desktop is there as it sohuld be, but it's not launched.
[03:17] <JPeterson> unchanged
[03:24] <vindav> hi there...Help please...to discover a full proof way to remove any evidence of Firefox 11 and the use of it in my Ubuntu 10.04 LTS desktop as the browser constantly crashes.
[03:24] <KDotHQ> Hi
[03:25] <KDotHQ> Anyone around?
[03:25] <KDotHQ> ...
[03:26] <daswort> maybe :P
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> vindav: you may need to rename ~/.mozilla/firefox   the new configs may crash the older version
[03:29] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Where do I do that on my system ?
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> vindav: you can do it in a terminal or in nautilus as 2 suggesions
[03:30] <cfhowlett> vindav: sudo apt-get purge firefox then go to /home and delete .mozilla
[03:30] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  What is the terminal command, or can I do it from Gnome where I can find the file  .mozilla   by doing a Ctrl-H in the home folder, then alter ?
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: what isf the user uses thunderbird!?
[03:30] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Ok, I'll try that now.
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> vindav: mv ~/.mozilla/firefox ~/.mozilla/firefox_old
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: the thunderbird config AND EMAILS are stored in ~/.mozilla too...
[03:31] <cfhowlett> vindav: DO NOT delete .mozilla DON"T DO IT!
[03:31]  * ActionParsnip sighs
[03:31] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip: once again, brain in neutral, fingers typing.  thanks for the reminder
[03:31] <vindav> cfhowlett:  Why ?
[03:31] <Tunix2> Okay I installed ndiswrapper, use it to install my wireless driver, did modprobe ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper -m and rebooted when I run 'ndiswrapper -l' DRIVER: XXX DEVICE PRESENT so why cant I see the wlan0 when i run ifconfig or iwconfig?
[03:32] <cfhowlett> vindav: as AP rightly pointed out, your thunderbird files are ALSO in .mozilla - you'd lose all your email configurations and probably your emails themselves
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> vindav: if you use thunderbird then your emails are also in ~/.mozilla so you should rename ~/.mozilla/firefox which will not touch your thunderbird config (if it is used)
[03:33] <Tunix2> Anyone proficient with getting wireless drivers to work with ubuntu?
[03:33] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Yes, I also use Thunderbird as my e-mail prgm.  So far, I have purged Firefox from the terminal prgm.  So, how do you suggest I rename the file to ?
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> vindav: I gave you the command....technically just something differnet and you are fie
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> *fine
[03:35] <vindav> ActionParsnip:   I also have a file separate from Firefox and it's called   .mozilla-thunderbird   Is that file still associated with Firefox somehow ?
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> vindav: thats your emails
[03:36] <Tunix2> Anyone know how to work a little ndiswrapper magic?
[03:37] <vindav> ACtionParsnip:  If I do not delete or rename   .mozilla-thunderbird, I can keep all the e-mail stuff, right ?  And if I delete   .mozilla  which is a completely separate file, will that effect   .mozilla-thunderbird ?
[03:37] <JPeterson> where is vmware-user-suid-wrapper autostarted from? /etc/xdg/autostart/vmware-user.desktop is there, unchaged, but it's not launched apparently.
[03:37] <Tunix2> if not can someone send me an invite to the #linux channel?
[03:37] <JPeterson> answer: the problem was old files in /etc/vmware-tools/ that wasn't removed by --purge remove, probably because they are not used by thw new version
[03:38] <vindav> ActionParsnip: If I do not delete or rename   .mozilla-thunderbird, I can keep all the e-mail stuff, right ?  And if I delete   .mozilla  which is a completely separate file, will that effect   .mozilla-thunderbird ?
[03:38] <JPeterson> so the solution is to --purge remove and delete /etc/vmware-tools/
[03:38] <vindav> vindav:  testing
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> vindav: if you don't touch the folder it won't touch the config. Why would it be any other way?
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> vindav: all you need to do is rename ~/.mozilla/firefox
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> vindav: I even gave you an example command...
[03:43] <Alen> Hello!
[03:43] <Alen> Help me Please!
[03:44] <Alen> How to recover a deleted logical drive?
[03:44] <michao> hi
[03:44] <Alen> hi
[03:45] <morrigandsmith> I am looking for instructions on how to increase the memory limit of my clipboard (using 11.04 32 bit PAE)
[03:45] <Alen> HELP ME PLEASE!!!
[03:45] <morrigandsmith> google was less than useless
[03:45] <Alen> How to recover a deleted logical drive?
[03:45] <Alen> How to recover a deleted logical drive ext4?
[03:45] <morrigandsmith> Alen did you reformat it?
[03:45] <Alen> NONONO
[03:45] <m9527> hello
[03:45] <escott> Alen, if you know the partition layout you can just restore it with fdisk. if not use testdisk
[03:46] <Alen> just delite
[03:46] <vindav> ActionParsnip:   Ok, I've renamed it.  Is it also ok to rename  .mozilla/extensions which is in the same folder as .mozilla/firefox  ?
[03:46] <Alen> in gparted
[03:46] <zykotick9> Alen: you might want to check out testdisk
[03:46] <jayar> is it hard to setup x11 forwarding? for PuTTY?
[03:46] <morrigandsmith> alen did you finalise the changes?
[03:46] <beata|lemur> lxde: Ewww; xfce: Looks promising but I'd like to find a gnome-like disk mounter applet.
[03:46] <m9527> how to get into another channel?
[03:46] <Alen> testdisk work with ext4?
[03:47] <Alen> yes sure
[03:47] <zykotick9> jayar: you'd need an Xorg server for windows... non-trivial i imagine (but i've never done it)
[03:47] <Alen> finish
[03:47] <Alen> :(
[03:47] <Alen> fdisk how?
[03:47] <m9527> #ubuntu-cn
[03:47] <Alen> How recover with fdisk please
[03:47] <Alen> ?
[03:48] <morrigandsmith> you will need the utility dd rescue and the man page for it
[03:48] <escott> Alen, testdisk may not be able to recognize the ext4 structure. so it may not help. All you have to do is figure out what block the partition started on and what block it ended on and go create a new partition (but dont format) of the correct type that starts and stops on the correct blocks
[03:49] <escott> Alen, you should take a dd backup of the entire disk before proceeding
[03:49] <Alen> howto?
[03:49] <Alen> imposseble
[03:49] <morrigandsmith> ty escott
[03:50] <Alen> i nt have free space
[03:50] <Alen> :(
[03:50] <Tunix2> Anyone here have experience with ndiswrapper?
[03:50] <morrigandsmith> alen you need to get an external drive
[03:50] <Alen> How just recover logical delited partition?
[03:50] <Alen> i not have
[03:50] <morrigandsmith> alen there is no "simple" way
[03:50] <Alen> :(
[03:51] <morrigandsmith> you will have to go through a lot of steps and have hours of patients
[03:51] <Alen> I wished I had switched to linux :(
[03:51] <escott> Alen, check if gparted logs its operations. it might tell you what the partition layout was prior to your modification
[03:51] <Alen> on windows very many work and good programs for recover date
[03:51] <Alen> and here no :(
[03:52] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  So, if I want Firefox to be re-installed, I just do:  sudo apt-get install firefox, or shall I just download the new version from Mozilla and install it through terminal ?
[03:52] <Alen> escott, no he start but crashed
[03:52] <Alen> gparted programm crash
[03:53] <Alen> not work function of "gpart"
[03:53] <morrigandsmith> vindav if you want a fully fresh install of firefox you will also need to delete the home/.mozilla dir
[03:53] <Alen> gpart how use it?
[03:53] <Alen> "gpart"
[03:53] <Alen> console util
[03:53] <Alen> gparted use gpart for recover
[03:54] <Alen> help please
[03:54] <morrigandsmith> vindav you will want to uninstall and reinstall firefox through synaptic manager
[03:54] <Alen> I have little understanding linux :(
[03:54] <escott> Alen, please stop sending so many messages. we've given you the outline of what you need to do. you'll need to do some work to figure out the details.
[03:54] <vindav> morrigandsmith:  how do I do that if the file you suggest doesn't exist ?
[03:54] <escott> Alen, if you cannot take a backup (which is highly recommended)
[03:55] <Alen> imposseble
[03:55] <Alen> how just recover partition in linux?
[03:55] <html_5> how do i use more swap ,hoping that the ram will free up a bit
[03:55] <Alen> how do it?
[03:55] <morrigandsmith> vindav have you looked with nautilus in your home folder, showing hidden?
[03:56] <Alen> how to restore it to its place?
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> vindav: reinstall whatever version you want, you will get default configs
[03:56] <Pickle_> hello.
[03:56] <Alen> hi
[03:56] <Alen> help me plz
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> vindav: I suggest you install it via the repos
[03:56] <Alen> (((
[03:56] <escott> Alen, your next step would be to identify where the deleted partition would start and end. if you don't know what those block positions are, you could guess based on the other partitions in the drive. In other words assume that the deleted partition starts at the beginning of free space and extends to the end of the free space. under that assumption you can create a new partition of the correct type (BUT DO NOT FORMAT the new partition)
[03:56] <escott> and if you are correct you have restored. if you are wrong you probably trashed the data
[03:56] <morrigandsmith> ActionParsnip, if the .mozilla folder is still in place it will override default install settings
[03:57] <vindav> morrigandsmith:  I have used the Ctrl-H function to reveal any hidden folders that may be in  .mozilla/
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> vindav: you just need to rename ~/.mozilla/firefox   that's all.
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> morrigandsmith: no as the firefox folder inside is none existant as it is renamed
[03:57] <morrigandsmith> ActionParsnip, agreed, if you rename it will ignore
[03:58] <RadiumCat> hello, xfce on my laptop does not use 100% CPU power when needed, and that makes the overall performance very sluggish. is there a tool i can use that can help me run the CPU at its optimum speed?
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> morrigandsmith: I told the user to do this some time ago..
[03:58] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  What is the repos for Firefox 11 ?
[03:58] <Alen> me just add new partition?
[03:58] <morrigandsmith> ActionParsnip, ok ty for the heads up I didnt realize that you were already helping
[03:59] <sodaclan> Good night, I apologize for my English and I use the google translator, I need help with my Ubuntu 11.10, I bought a new monitor and when I want the drivers comfiguracion uarden the screen at a resolution not achieving adequate
[03:59] <Alen> escott?
[03:59] <RadiumCat> anyone?
[03:59] <Alen> escott,?
[03:59] <Alen> :(
[03:59] <Alen> help please!
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> vindav: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[03:59] <wchan_> on osx... i can do something like .. open myfile.pdf or open xyz.txt ... and it would oopen the  file with the default viewer
[04:00] <wchan_> i know you can use gnome-open ... however im on xubuntu
[04:00] <wchan_> is there something simliar?
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> morrigandsmith: just had to fight a citrix box so wa sin and out
[04:00] <Alen> i cry :(
[04:00] <vindav> ActionParsnip:   lucid
[04:00] <Nach0z> wchan_: you can still use gnome-open if I'm not mistaken, you just gotta install it first
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> RadiumCat: https://launchpad.net/~artfwo/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=oneiric   may help. Details here: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/indicator-cpufreq-cpu-frequency-scaling-indicator-applet/
[04:00] <escott> Alen, it would be a new partition table entry, but not a new formated partition. this is why you may want to use fdisk instead of gparted. gparted tries to be helpful by formatting the partition which would destroy your data
[04:00] <zykotick9> wchan_: try "xdg-open"
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox lucid | vindav
[04:00] <wchan_> sudo apt-get install gnome-open?
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> vindav: ver 10 in the lucid main repo..
[04:01] <morrigandsmith> ActionParsnip, have you ever edited the clipboard memory limits? I cant find a good anything with google
[04:01] <bobenhaus> who uses xbuntu
[04:01] <bobenhaus> ?
[04:01] <wchan_> bobenhaus: ppl that dont like the horrible new gnome3?
[04:01] <Nach0z> wchan_: sounds about right. but try xdg-open, zykotick9 mighta found your alternative
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> bobenhaus: many do, its great
[04:01] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  !info firefox lucid | vindav
[04:01] <wchan_> xykotick9: thansk
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> morrigandsmith: not sure. I use parcellite so not sure of the memory uses there
[04:01] <bobenhaus> is there a way to remove the unity and just keep xbuntu as the default?
[04:01] <escott> Alen, if you want to use fdisk its just: "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" "m" for the menu "p" to print the current table "n" to create a new entry
[04:01] <Nach0z> wchan_: if either one works for you, you can edit your .bashrc and insert an alias for open='gnome-open' or something
[04:01] <Alen> escott, if i just add new partition. On it partition will be my files?
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> wchan_: you probably dislike unity, not gnome3
[04:02] <escott> Alen, if you guess correctly yes. if you guess wrong no.
[04:02] <wchan_> ActionParsnip: i dislike both
[04:02] <wchan_> gnome-panel is boke . totally not same as gnome2
[04:02] <Nach0z> bobenhaus: xubuntu is just a name. XFCE4 is the window manager. you can apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, or XFCE4, and just select xfce4 or xubuntu when you're at the login screen
[04:03] <morrigandsmith> ActionParsnip, can percellite copy 500 pages from a pdf to a text file? I need to change a book format to mobi
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> morrigandsmith: worth a try, it is free ;)
[04:03] <aBound> Is it possible to upgrade Ubuntu's 10.04.3 LTS kernel to version 3.0?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> aBound: yes but its not supported here
[04:03] <bobenhaus> is xbuntu a OS or window manager?
[04:03] <aBound> Gotcha.
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> bobenhaus: its an ubuntu variant using xfce by default as well as light applications
[04:04] <Alen> escott, If I do not guess the size, then what?
[04:04] <Nach0z> bobenhaus: xubuntu is a bunch of packages that are personalized to be "xubuntu". it's 'kind of' a distro. xfce4 is the specific window manager.
[04:04] <Astral119> I know this is probably a very noobish question, but how do i change the background image @ Kvirc? is it possible
[04:04] <bobenhaus> hmm ok thanks
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> xfce4 isnt a wm
[04:05] <Alen> escott, If I do not guess the size, then what?
[04:05] <Alen> please
[04:05] <Nach0z> .... ActionParsnip, ?
[04:05] <escott> Alen, i don't know, but it certainly wouldn't work. it might destroy the data
[04:05] <aBound> WM stands for Window Manager.
[04:06] <Alen> escott, forever?
[04:06] <Nach0z> yeah, I know that part, I just hadn't heard it referred to as anything BUT a window manager
[04:06] <Alen> o_O
[04:07] <zykotick9> Nach0z: DE Desktop Environment (it translates to Bloated WM)
[04:07] <aBound> Nach0z, From what I know XFCE is a GUI.
[04:07] <Nach0z> alrighty then.
[04:07] <Nach0z> soooo it's a window manager with a taskbar, start menu, and applets preconfigured
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> xfce4 is the desktop xfwm4 is the WM
[04:07] <Alen> escott, if I make a partition on the entire (full) disk, then the data will be lost?
[04:08] <Alen> escott, help please
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> although you can easily use compiz etc with xfce4
[04:08] <Alen> escott, very important data for me
[04:09] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Do you have a hyperlink where I can download the version of Firefox that you posted please ?
[04:09] <Alen> escott, ?
[04:10] <Alen> Help Please My Bad!
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> vindav: its in the official repositories. If you added a PPA then remove it but the default version for firefox ix 10
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> vindav: there is no 'link' just install it like any other app
[04:10] <Alen> How recover logical delited partition in Linux?
[04:10] <LahLah> SMACK.
[04:10] <escott> Alen, you clearly dont understand how partitions and filesystems work. the filesystem puts a superblock which indicates where the rest of the data can be found at a fixed position from the start of the partition. the partition table is stored in a different part of the disk and does not affect the data stored on the disk. so your task is to get that partition start in exactly the correct place so the superblock is exactly where it needs
[04:10] <escott> to be so you can get a readable filesystem
[04:11] <wchan_> zykotick9: xdg-open works :) ... yah!
[04:11] <vindav> ActionParnip:   Are you saying I can just install it now from Ubuntu Software Centre ?
[04:11] <escott> Alen, a partition of the entire disk is just going to make your problem worse. you need to figure out where the deleted partition began and ended
[04:12] <Sir_Burpalot> Greetings, chaps.
[04:12] <Alen> escott, promt me please testdisk for ext4
[04:12] <LahLah> Make sure to categorize the small disc space in the left port so you don't get an overdriven file source.
[04:12] <Alen> escott, prompt me please testdisk for ext4
[04:13] <JPeterson> why do i get
[04:13] <JPeterson> Setting up flashplugin-downloader (<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1) ...
[04:13] <JPeterson> Downloading...
[04:13] <JPeterson> --2012-02-07 23:09:44--  http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_<IP_ADDRESS>.orig.tar.gz
[04:13] <LahLah> LISTEN TO ME PEOPLE.
[04:13] <FloodBot1> JPeterson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:13] <LahLah> I know what I'm talking about.
[04:13] <escott> Alen, i dont know of one
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> vindav: yes and it will be v.10   if you run:  apt-cache policy firefox   you will see which will be installed (the latest version will be used)
[04:13] <Alen> escott, Advice please me please testdisk for ext4
[04:13] <Alen> :(
[04:13] <Sir_Burpalot> Why use ext4?
[04:13] <Sir_Burpalot> XFS is a hell of a lot better...
[04:13] <Alen> escott, just normal analog for ext4
[04:14] <Alen> escott, i cant blindfold do it
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Burpalot: each file system has its advantages
[04:15] <Alen> Somebody HELP!
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Burpalot: no file system is outright better or no other file system would be used
[04:15] <Alen> PLEASE!
[04:15] <vindav> ActionParsnip:   Ok...it seems terminal ran back with a response that I do have the PPA for the most recent version of Firefox should it be installed.  Does that make sense ?
[04:15] <Alen> Anlog For Testdisk For EXT4.
[04:15] <ritz> ubottu, !ask|Alen
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> vindav: then remove the ppa
[04:16] <ritz> Alen,  testdisk should work on ext4
[04:16] <Alen> ubottu plz help
[04:16] <Alen> i know
[04:16] <ritz> Alen,  but dont expect much .
[04:16] <Alen> i tested it
[04:16] <JPeterson> can someone explain this http://pastebin.com/uR49Hmhs apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Burpalot: XFS cannot be shrunk and its metadata operations make it slower than many other file systems
[04:17] <Sir_Burpalot> Attention, everyone. LahLah is my girlfriend.
[04:17] <Alen> And what me do?
[04:17] <Alen> I cant recover data?
[04:17] <Alen> (((
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> Alen: use your backups
[04:17] <Alen> i not have it
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> Alen: why not?
[04:18] <Alen> but data on disk , just partitions delited , how recover data?
[04:18] <Alen> i not have empty disk
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> Alen: you may find success with foremost. I suggest you get a backup. You have learned the value of backup the HARDEST way possible
[04:19] <ritz> Alen, testdisk
[04:19] <ritz> Alen,  it can detect and read files
[04:19] <ritz> or if you have a backup of the disk/or partition table
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> !info foremost
[04:20] <ritz> recreate it
[04:20] <Alen> I can make a backup of the one partition of the disk?
[04:20] <LahLah> Hi beautifuls.
[04:20] <LahLah> I really, really need some techy support.
[04:20] <ritz> Alen of the parition table on the disk
[04:20] <Alen> ritz, no
[04:20] <bobenhaus> what would be the apt-get command to get all of Xfce?
[04:20] <Alen> ritz, no work with ext4
[04:20] <ritz> Alex test disk, and patience , and plenty of hope mixed in then
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> Alen: once you restore what data you can, you can back it up. The idea of a backup is you make it when the data is healthy so when catastrophe happens you can simply restore the data
[04:21] <bobenhaus> !Xfce
[04:21] <JPeterson> can someone explain this http://pastebin.com/uR49Hmhs apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> bobenhaus: you already have apps, so you can just run:  sudo apt-get install xfce4
[04:21] <bobenhaus> anctionparsnip: thanks
[04:21] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  how do I add or install http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-next/ubuntu/  to software resources when it doesn't allow me to ?
[04:21] <Alen> Help ME Please!
[04:22] <Alen> Analog "Testdisk" with support ext4!??!?!
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[04:22] <bobenhaus> can I logoff of my desktop and still be connected to irc, apps etc...?
[04:22] <Alen> (((
[04:23] <bobenhaus> doubt it:(
[04:23] <zykotick9> bobenhaus: if you use terminal applications and use screen - sure.  GUI, no.
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> vindav: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-next; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:23] <Alen> it's just idiotic why no one has written such a program?
[04:23] <bobenhaus> ahh I remember screen from back in the day
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> vindav: you will then get firefox 11
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> vindav: it was compiled 4 days ago
[04:24] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: no difference http://pastebin.com/diff.php?i=UG1QcLvk
[04:25] <Alen> thx all! bb i go do suicide (((
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> Alen: if you'd had a backup, you'd be fine..
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found   looks like the server is having issues
[04:26] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: nope, no problem with server
[04:26] <JPeterson> http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/ works
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: what is the output of: uname -m
[04:26] <Alen> I have depressed, and now also date delited (((
[04:26] <uRock> after hitting ctrl+alt+F1 to drop to CLI from the login screen how do I get out of the CLI?
[04:27] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: i686
[04:27] <EvilResistance> uRock:  ctrl+alt+f7 ?
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: sweet, give me a sec
[04:27] <uRock> thanx
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/833516/
[04:29] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: thx. but i want to know why it akss for archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_<IP_ADDRESS>.orig.tar.gz
[04:30] <uRock> I just upgraded via clean install from 10.04 to 11.10 without formatting /home. I entered the same username and such, but the install did not give me ownership of my files. What should I do to get permissions set where they belong for the account?
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: it needs that to get the plugin file which it then copies around the place
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: my 3 commands do it the old school way
[04:30] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Ok, Firefox 11 is on-board now thanks to you.  By the way (BTW), what terminal command can I use to upload all the Firefox plugin and things that I had in before ?
[04:31] <Alen> bb all ((( bb world (((
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> vindav: you'll need to reinstate them, if the new version uses bookmarks.htm then you can simply copy the file from the old profile
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> vindav: I don't use firefox so I cannoty help much more.
[04:33] <escott> uRock, were the users created in the same order on the old and new system?
[04:33] <uRock> escott. yes
[04:34] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Ok...since I have done the procedures to getting Firefox to work again, is Firefox 11 stable to work in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS or should I somehow wipe away the O/S and put in Ubuntu 11.10 and start over ?
[04:34] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: I mean why it asks for a file that doesn't exist
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> vindav: its the beta release, so officially no. but as I said. I DON'T use Firefox
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: why what asks for a file?
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: maybe the installer needs updating if the zrchive has been updated
[04:35] <escott> uRock, ok. i was going to suggest that the uids may not match (the username is not stored in the filesystem only the uid). you can see what your id is with "id" and what the ids associated to the folders are with "stat filename" if those dont match you need to use chown to fix it
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: could report a bug
[04:36] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: ok
[04:36] <IanWizard-Cloud> I installed E17, and connman, and now the regular network applet doesn't start in Unity
[04:36] <JPeterson> strange that nobody has noticed that such a package doesn't install
[04:36] <JPeterson> how many users are there if I was the first one that tried to install flash-downloader
[04:36] <uRock> escott, I'll check it out, thanx
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: maybe they have but didn't say or worked around
[04:37] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: I guess
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: maybe the error has just this second appeared and you got hit by it
[04:37] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: could be
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> JPeterson: not so strange ;)
[04:38] <superdave321> Does anyone have suggestions for a light weight browser that would do good on x11 over ssh?
[04:38] <Nach0z> well
[04:38] <Nach0z> if you like having pictures, chrome. if you don't need pictures or anything but text...
[04:38] <Nach0z> just use links2
[04:39] <Nach0z> and skip the x11 part
[04:39] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Gotta new question for you...how does one remove the current Ubuntu version off my dual boot system which has Windows 7 and Ubuntu 10.04 LTS resident ?  I have GRUB.
[04:39] <superdave321> Nach0z: Cool. Thanks.
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> vindav: how did you install it?
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> superdave321: arora or midori are light and awesome
[04:40] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  I installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS after installing Windows 7 using a CD.
[04:41] <superdave321> ActionParsnip: sweet, thanks!
[04:42] <patrick_> im thinking something along the lines of start from win repair cd, and fixmbr  fixboot  might do wha you want if jsut nuking the nix install is the goal.
[04:42] <Nach0z> vindav: you could go into windows and set your win7 SYSTEM partition as the active partition :|
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> vindav: boot to the windows OS and delete the Ubuntu partitions. If you are not reinstating another OS you WILL need to reinstate the Windows bootloader
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> vindav: obviously deleting the partition destroys the data so ensure your important data is backed up first
[04:43] <Q_Continuum> Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit Desktop, Intel Atom/NM10 Chipset w/Intel GMA 3150.  System not detecting GPU, what driver do I need to install to get more than 1024x768 out of this thing? (Nettop barebones)
[04:44] <JPeterson> ActionParsnip: question was asked yesterday http://askubuntu.com/questions/102000/apt-get-always-fails-with-error-404-not-found-over-a-package-flashplugin-dow , problem is that my mirror was not updated, this worked http://askubuntu.com/questions/37753/how-can-i-get-apt-to-use-a-mirror-close-to-me
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> Q_Continuum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1693384   xorg edgers ppa is mentioned here, may help but its quite experimental
[04:46] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  All data is backed up on my NAS.  Pardon me for asking since I never performed this procedure, how does one just go into Window 7 and set my SYSTEM partition as the active partition ? Do I put in the Window 7 disk to do this ?  How do I delete the Ubuntu partitions ? How do I reinstate the Windows bootloader ?
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> Q_Continuum: less hardcore is add the boot option: acpi_osi=Linux    may help
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> vindav: the active partition will more than likely already be the windows one, the windows bootloader has been overwritten by grub
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> vindav: when you delete ubuntu you delete the config for grub, and your system won't boot
[04:47] <patrick_> I would install the win recovery console personally, do this from within windows, if you have the windows disk, it provides many tools to maintain win.    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216417
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> vindav: you willl need your win7 disk to reinstate the botloader
[04:48] <mdel> where can I find the default config files for an installed package?
[04:48] <vindav> ActionParsnip;  So, when I put in the Window 7 disk, how do I reinstate the bootloader ?
[04:49] <bobenhaus> dunno if I like Xbuntu or not.
[04:49] <bobenhaus> hmm
[04:49] <patrick_> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392    might be of use
[04:49] <unimaxlin> Hi all
[04:50] <patrick_>  /waves
[04:50] <cfhowlett> unimaxlin: greetings
[04:50] <unimaxlin> I am need a help to with easy dns resolution
[04:51] <cfhowlett> unimaxlin: I always love it when I see in the first line that the investigation is COMPLETELY over my head...:)
[04:51] <cfhowlett> :)
[04:52] <unimaxlin> we have a lot of machine in my work evironment like p1.data.kk.ss.unimaxlin.com  p2.data.kk.ss.unimaxlin.com  i want to ssh the server by simply typying ssh p1 how can i configure it please help
[04:52] <unimaxlin> #ssh p1
[04:52] <unimaxlin> any ideas..
[04:53] <cfhowlett> !server|unimaxlin
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> vindav: ask in ##windows for that
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> unimaxlin: add an entry in /etc/hosts for the ip and the short name
[04:54] <unimaxlin> we have a 10000 server not possible to add the ips
[04:54] <Guest7716> unimaxlin perhaps an alias?
[04:54] <vindav> ActionParsnip:  Thank you for all your help and advice tonight.  I really appreciate you and your effort, patience, and volunteer time.  Have a great night !! :D
[04:54] <unimaxlin> is there any shortcuts
[04:54] <unimaxlin> how to add alias
[04:54] <patrick_> yw vindav, take care
[04:54] <unimaxlin> please give me a sample
[04:54] <uRock> Trying the chown my /home. I tried [code]sudo chown -R user:user *.*[/code] but that did nothing, what should I try next?
[04:55] <EvilResistance> uRock:  why do you want to chown /home ?
[04:55] <andrew_au> Hi, I was wanting some help with setting up a VPN server and capturing traffic from a client using wireshark. Can anyone help out?
[04:55] <EvilResistance> uRock:  i think /home/ itself needs to be owned by root...
[04:55] <Guest7716> unimaxlin: in debian in .bashrc
[04:55] <uRock> EvilResistance, because it says I do not own anything
[04:56] <unimaxlin> can you give a sample
[04:56] <unimaxlin> entry
[04:56] <uRock> EvilResistance, just trying to chown the user's home
[04:56] <EvilResistance> uRock:  sudo chown --recursive youruser:youruser /home/youruser/
[04:56] <unimaxlin> for  p1.data.kk.ss.unimaxlin.com
[04:56] <uRock> thanx EvilResistance
[04:56] <EvilResistance> uRock:  remember to replace 'youruser' with the username of your user
[04:56] <EvilResistance> :P
[04:57] <EvilResistance> uRock:  but under no circumstances should you chown just /home
[04:57] <EvilResistance> because if im' not mistaken that should be owned by root...
[04:57] <uRock> EvilResistance, understood, thanx
[04:58] <escott> unimaxlin, http://collectiveidea.com/blog/archives/2011/02/04/how-to-ssh-aliases/
[04:59] <unimaxlin> @escott thanks a lot
[04:59] <Guest7716> unimaxlin:  add line: "sshOwn() { ssh $1.data.kk.ss.unimaxlin.com }"
[05:00] <uglyoldbob> how would i determine if a certain compiler, say "i586-mingw32msvc-g++" was installed with a shell script?
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> uglyoldbob: ask in #bash too :)
[05:02] <escott> uglyoldbob, why not try and execute it and check $?
[05:03] <escott> uglyoldbob, stackoverflow says to use hash
[05:03] <escott> uglyoldbob, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/592620/check-if-a-program-exists-from-a-bash-script
[05:09] <Guest7716> unimaxlin: I've checked it now. The folowing line in ~/bashrc will work:
[05:10] <Guest7716> sshO () { ssh "$*.data.kk.ss.unimaxlin.com"; }
[05:12] <raddy_> Hello Everybody
[05:13] <raddy_> I installed postgresql 8.4 in ubuntu 10.04 server
[05:14] <raddy_> But, /etc/postgresql/8.4/ folder not created
[05:14] <raddy_> Only /etc/postgresql-common/ present.
[05:16] <raddy_> Can anybody suggest what could the problem
[05:19] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[05:24] <dr--willis> wow its quiet...
[05:25] <andrew_au> dr--willis:
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> dr--willis: too quiet
[05:25] <andrew_au> *I know :P
[05:26] <aBound> You made it quiet. :P
[05:26] <bobenhaus> hello. does anyone know how to I remove xfce4 from my system?
[05:27] <andrew_au> sorry to repost this but I came on to get some help with setting up a VPN server and capturing traffic from a client using wireshark. Can anyone help out?
[05:27] <bobenhaus> !xfce4 remove
[05:27] <bazhang> bobenhaus, and leave what?
[05:27] <bobenhaus> I just want the option to be removed as an option from the login screen?
[05:27] <dr--willis> just the login screen?
[05:28] <bobenhaus> yeah
[05:28] <dr--willis> or you want it actually removed
[05:28] <DesignerGuy> is there any command where I can tell if that my server is listening on an IP?
[05:28] <Q_Continuum> ActionParsnip: both the ppa and the boot option acpi_osi=linux didn't help with the Intel GMA 3150 on 11.10 x64 :-/
[05:28] <Q_Continuum> Here I thought Intel GPUs "just worked" and it was the AMD/nVidia ones that required effort to make function :-(
[05:28] <bazhang> bobenhaus, yes, and remaining will be what? gnome kde4 or what
[05:28] <bobenhaus> I would like to remove if possible
[05:28] <bobenhaus> The default 11.10
[05:28] <bazhang> !puregnome | bobenhaus