[16:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[16:18] <DragonFly> subrenat: what's up ?
[16:19] <DragonFly> bugs.kde.org
[16:19] <DragonFly> doh sorry
[16:19] <subrenat> DragonFly:  could you type: ssh -p 7733<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:19] <subrenat> and could you say what's you see?
[16:19] <sigma_123> sorry http://bugs.kde.org
[16:20] <thompson42> sigma_123: Thanks.
[16:21] <subrenat> DragonFly?
[16:21] <subrenat> did you do the test?
[16:21] <DragonFly> subrenat: getting your key info and login
[16:22] <subrenat> oki
[16:22] <subrenat> thanks
[16:22] <DragonFly> subrenat: no worries
[16:22] <subrenat> its works!
[16:22] <subrenat> i'm happy!
[16:22] <DarkTan_> ok, i can't install the w32 codecs or the dvd package
[16:22] <sigma_123> lol:)
[16:23] <sigma_123> what error is it giving?
[16:23] <DragonFly> DarkTan_: Try to use automatix if everything else fails
[16:24] <sigma_123> thats some dodgy stuff!
[16:24] <DarkTan_> i tired to install be right clicking the package> kubuntu package menu> install package
[16:24] <DragonFly> sigma_123: what automatix ?
[16:24] <DarkTan_> do i need to use the terminal?
[16:24] <Jucato> !automatix
[16:24] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[16:24] <Dr_willis> it shouldent fail.. thers 1000000's of people that install the w32codecs and dvd playback without automatix :)
[16:24] <sigma_123> downloading the packages manually an installing usually works
[16:25] <DragonFly> oh i see
[16:25] <DragonFly> thx ubotu
[16:25] <Dr_willis> The medibuntu repo has those packages I belive also
[16:25] <Dr_willis> !medibuntu
[16:25] <DarkTan_> that's where i d/l from
[16:25] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[16:25] <DarkTan_> i could d/l the individual packages tho
[16:25] <sigma_123> i didnt know u cud get them from anywhere else
[16:26] <sigma_123> yeah do that.
[16:26] <DarkTan_> can i add medibuntu in adept as repository?
[16:26] <Dr_willis> DarkTan_,  of course you can. :)
[16:27] <Dr_willis> http://www.medibuntu.org has details on that
[16:27] <nosrednaekim> hey DarkTan_
[16:27] <DarkTan_> do i just put in the url?
[16:27] <vincent_> hi all
[16:27] <Dr_willis> You go to the url and read the instructions. :)
[16:27] <nosrednaekim> hey vincent_
[16:27] <DarkTan_> hey nosrednaekim
[16:27] <sigma_123> hi vincent
[16:28] <Exploit> hi there! Can someone tell me how to open - while using gnome - a folder as root and not as normal user?
[16:28] <vincent_> there are french here? I have a little question
[16:28] <DragonFly> Exploit: go to console as root and type in konqueror
[16:28] <sigma_123> um i think u should try #ubuntu
[16:28] <vincent_> ok, thanks sigma
[16:28] <sigma_123> !fr
[16:28] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:28] <Exploit> is there a way to open it with icons?
[16:28] <vincent_> !fr
[16:29] <vincent_> ...
[16:29] <sigma_123> lol beat u 2it
[16:29] <Dr_willis> Exploit,  sudo THE_FILE_MANAGER, which is konqueror for kde, and nautilus for gnome.. i DONT advise using the file manager as root.. or if you do.. Close the window as soon as you are done.
[16:29] <Exploit> DragonFly: I want to use the File Browser of gnome :)
[16:29] <Exploit> Dr_willis:  thanks you :)
[16:29] <nosrednaekim> Exploit: go to #ubuntu for help with gnome
[16:30] <sigma_123> yeah thats some seriously dangerous stuff
[16:30] <Dr_willis> I always just use mc in a terminal to do my root file manageing needs. :) or just the terminal
[16:30] <Exploit> nosrednaekim:  okay :)
[16:31] <DarkTan_> ok i think i got it
[16:31] <pteague_work> anybody know of a good web panel similar to whm/cpanel for kubuntu?
[16:32] <Dr_willis> pteague_work,  i wonder if anyone even knows what a 'web panel' is :)
[16:32] <sigma_123> there is a oss one. the name just slipped my mind.
[16:32] <DarkTan_> is there a way to import my aim buddy list in to kopete?
[16:33] <sigma_123> just google it. can't remember where i heard of it
[16:33] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: yes, just add your AIM account
[16:33] <Dr_willis> I thouhg the aim buddies lists were stored on the AIM servers.
[16:33] <nosrednaekim> Dr_willis: they are
[16:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[16:34] <sigma_123> it wouldnt make sense if they weren't!
[16:34] <pteague_work> Dr_willis> honestly i could care less, but apparently there are people that can't even figure out ssh & putty...
[16:35] <limac> hey
[16:35] <DarkTan_> i added my account, i get my groups, none of my buddies
[16:35] <sigma_123> i can't wait 4 kde4:) it just has such a nice visual refresh
[16:36] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: did you log in?
[16:36] <limac> i was on the blender site and installed 2.45 (64-bit for linux) and then after extracting it when i run ./blender thru the compiler, it says cannot execute binary file. what should i do?
[16:37] <Dr_willis> limac,  install the needed compiler packages for a start
[16:37] <Dr_willis> !info build-essential
[16:37] <limac> Dr_willis: thx didn't think about that!
[16:37] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:37] <DarkTan_> yes, i logged in
[16:37] <Dr_willis> or am i missreading what you said...
[16:38] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[16:38] <Dr_willis> blender has an compiler script called blender?
[16:38] <pteague_work> Dr_willis> i remember there used to be an app that allowed you to control multiple servers & their setups via a web interface, but i can't remember the name... have any ideas?
[16:38] <DarkTan_> wait, i say i'm not connected to aim now
[16:38] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: well, try expanding your groups then?
[16:38] <nosrednaekim> :
[16:38] <Sanne> limac: can you paste the exact error message to the pastebin?
[16:38] <Dr_willis> pteague_work,  i recall seeing several apps that let you run one or more commands on several machines.... i just cant rember where i saw that tutorial iat.. :)
[16:38] <limac> Sanne; can u pls send me the url of pastebin/ thx
[16:38] <limac> ?
[16:39] <Sanne> !pastebin
[16:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:39] <Sanne> limac: ^^
[16:39] <Dr_willis> It may of been at the ubuntu tips site i hang out at..
[16:39] <limac> Sanne: thx
[16:39] <limac> Sanne: hold on a sec
[16:39] <Sanne> :)
[16:40] <DarkTan_> damnit i don't know if it getting the right password now
[16:41] <limac> Sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49835/
[16:41] <pteague_work> Dr_willis> was thinking of webmin ;)
[16:42] <DarkTan_> ok i have to right pass, but it still says i'm not connected after i log in
[16:42] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: no error?
[16:43] <Sanne> limac: when you type 'ls' (no quotes), do you see the blender executable?
[16:43] <DarkTan_> when i try to add a contact i get: "You need to be connected to be able to add contacts. Connect to the AIM network and try again."
[16:44] <sigma_123> is there a easy way to share my usb internet connection (dial up) to other linux pcs on my network?
[16:44] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: you're not on wireless, right?
[16:44] <DarkTan_> i just found the little button on the bottom of the window to oconnect
[16:44] <Dr_willis> pteague_work,  I think webmin has that feature.. but i recall some other tools that let you do ssh commands and span them to several box's
[16:44] <limac> Sanne: hold on lemme try :)
[16:45] <Dr_willis> Im so Lagged/theISP is flakey today - i can only talk in 20 sec spurts.. then im lagged out again.. SIGH...
[16:45] <DarkTan_> still have only the groups, no buddies
[16:45] <pteague_work> Dr_willis> ah, not needing that... i'm trying to avoid getting stuck with fedora core & whm/cpanel for dummy administration
[16:45] <limac> yeah
[16:45] <limac> Sanne ^^^
[16:45] <limac> in green
[16:45] <Sanne> limac: what's the output of 'uname -a'
[16:46] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: are you on wireless?
[16:46] <DarkTan_> no
[16:46] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: then kill knetowrkmanager
[16:46] <DarkTan_> wireless is still fubar, but i found something on that
[16:46] <DarkTan_> ho do i do that?
[16:46] <limac> Sanne: Linux limac-kubuntu 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[16:46] <Sanne> limac: and the output of: file blender
[16:46] <nosrednaekim> which is in the system tray
[16:47] <DarkTan_> i don't see it there
[16:47] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: look for the knetworkmanager icon on the status bar..
[16:47] <limac> Sanne: blender: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses s               hared libs), stripped
[16:47] <nosrednaekim> ok, then run "killall knetworkmanager" from a konsole
[16:48] <DarkTan_> no process killed
[16:48] <Sanne> limac: aha! You seem to run a 32bit Kubuntu (i686), but downloaded a 64bit blender. Won't work :)
[16:48] <ciao> hi
[16:49] <ciao> what program is good for html and css development?
[16:49] <limac> Sanne: ah! dumb me! thnx a lot DUDE(hopefully) ;D
[16:49] <ciao> I mean IDE
[16:49] <Sanne> limac: when you redownload, pay attention to the python version blender is compiled with
[16:49] <limac> Sanne: sure thing ;)
[16:50] <Sanne> limac: if you're on gutsy, get blender 32bit for python 2.5 (I guess) and I'm actually no dude ;)
[16:50] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: odd..... I don't use kopete actually. Pidgin is far better
[16:50] <limac> allright then Sanne, i'll try the 32-bit version of blender thx
[16:50] <Sanne> you're welcome, limac :)
[16:50] <ciao> what program is good for html and css development?
[16:51] <Sanne> limac: one last thing...
[16:51] <DarkTan_> pidgin?
[16:51] <DarkTan_> gonna google it
[16:51] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: yeah..
[16:51] <adhi> how to make a kubuntu likes vista
[16:51] <limac> Sanne: proceed
[16:51] <nosrednaekim> !vista
[16:51] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[16:51] <ciao> dude it's not so bad vista...
[16:51] <nosrednaekim> ;
[16:51] <Sanne> limac: put the .blender folder you'll find inside the extracted blender directory to your home folder, ie: /home/limac/.blender
[16:52] <limac> Sanne: will do
[16:52] <limac> thx
[16:52] <Sanne> limac: have fun :)
[16:52] <limac> thx
[16:52] <Sanne> and come to #blender
[16:52] <Jucato> ooh blender....
[16:52] <Jucato> one of these days....
[16:53] <Sanne> Jucato: it's getting better and better :)
[16:53] <limac> Sanne: i am trying to make a 30 animation movie 9action)
[16:53] <DarkTan_> w00t talking forever to download
[16:53] <Jucato> Sanne: I know! I've been monitoring it since late 2005. it's the force that led me to Linux and FOSS :)
[16:54] <DarkTan_> i d/l the firefox tar.gz, how do i install it?
[16:54]  * Jucato can't wait for Apricot and Peach to be finished :D
[16:54] <DarkTan_> i direction on the site confuse me
[16:54] <Sanne> Jucato: yeah, it's amazing. I'm looking forward to see you also in #blender one day :)
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: don't use that.... use the one in the repositories..
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: that goes for pidgin too..
[16:54] <Sanne> limac: good luck with your animation project :)
[16:54] <DarkTan_> hoe do i get them in there?
[16:54] <Jucato> Sanne: hopefully... unfortunately I suck at art... but I can still dream/wish :P
[16:55] <limac> Sanne; thx
[16:55] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: run "sudo apt-get firefox"
[16:55] <Dr_willis> DarkTan_,  why are you even messing with the tar.gz ?
[16:55] <Jucato> (well I don't really "suck".. just not really good at it :P)
[16:55] <DarkTan_> cause that was what they had on the site for kubuntu
[16:55] <Dr_willis> Testing out  FF3 beta 2 here. :)
[16:55] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: that snowflak pic wasn'ttoo bad!
[16:55] <Dr_willis> DarkTan_,  Hmm no  you dont. :)
[16:56] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: I wish I could say "I did it in Karbon14!" though :(
[16:56] <DarkTan_> invalid operation
[16:56] <Sanne> Jucato: one step at a time. I'll keep my eyes open for you then :)
[16:56] <adhi> what a app for destop kubuntu?
[16:56] <nosrednaekim> Karbon14 is awful... no documentation..
[16:56] <Jucato> Sanne: thanks :)
[16:56] <Sanne> :)
[16:56] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: yeah...
[16:56] <limac> Sanne; for the 32-bit one it says: ./blender: error while loading shared libraries: libopenal.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:57] <emilsedgh> nosrednaekim: it has no feature to be documented!
[16:57] <nosrednaekim> emilsedgh: lol...
[16:57] <Sanne> limac: that's hopefully easy, you just need some libs. Let me find the name of the opeenal package for you
[16:57] <nosrednaekim> !lol > nosrednaekim
[16:57] <_mark_> Does anyone know if it would be safe to run: sudo apt-get --reinstall install dpkg ?
[16:57] <limac> Sanne: sure
[16:57] <Jucato> Sanne: don't keep them open too long though... I usually switch interests from year to year... 2004-2005 was my year of 3D graphics and animation... but that got replaced by Linux, FOSS, KDE, and C++ :P
[16:57] <_mark_> Or would that destroy my system.
[16:57] <nosrednaekim> _mark_: if it failed... it very easily could ;)
[16:58] <Sanne> limac: install libopenal0a
[16:58] <emilsedgh> nosrednaekim: whats your missing feature/app in kde?
[16:58] <_mark_> Okay . . .  :-(
[16:58] <Jucato> _mark_: any reason you would want to do that?
[16:58] <Jucato> emilsedgh: it's missing focus follows mind support
[16:59] <Jucato> as well as wink to select, and double wink to open
[16:59] <Sanne> Jucato: I can relate, I'm also a switcher kinda... but 3D *and* Linux stuck (so far...)
[16:59] <_mark_> Jucato: Yes, every time I try to install a file, or do anything at all with apt-get, I get a message saying: "files list file for package `dpkg' is missing final newline"
[16:59] <emilsedgh> Jucato: it has many missing features...
[17:00] <DarkTan_> nosrednaekim: i get this on firefox: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49837/
[17:00] <DarkTan_> and it can't find pidgin
[17:00] <Jucato> if you're on Dapper, Pidgin doesn't exist yet
[17:00] <Jucato> it's still GAIM
[17:00] <DarkTan_> oh
[17:01] <DarkTan_> can't find that either
[17:01] <_mark_> And from reading directions on https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-January/104520.html , they say that you should, among other things, remove the offending package's info file and reinstall it - and dpkg is the offender.
[17:01] <limac> Sanne; yay! blender 2.45 is running ! yay! thanks a lot
[17:01] <limac> :)
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: try lower case
[17:01] <DarkTan_> same error as firefix
[17:01] <DarkTan_> firefox*
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> and it seems the medibuntu repository messed things up... did you remove the medibuntu repository or something?
[17:02] <Jucato> so many problems tonight :/
[17:02] <adhi> how to change my desktop animation
[17:02] <DarkTan_> i just toldme to so i did
[17:02] <Jucato> _mark_: that is indeed problematic :(
[17:02] <Jucato> adhi: which animation?
[17:03] <DarkTan_> non firefox works
[17:03] <DarkTan_> now*
[17:03] <adhi> yes
[17:03] <adhi> likes vist
[17:03] <Jucato> O.o
[17:03] <adhi> likes vistA
[17:03] <Jucato> !compiz | adhi
[17:03] <ubotu> adhi: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:03] <nosrednaekim> !search gaim (dapper)
[17:03] <ubotu> Found: gaim2, im-#ubuntu*, im-#kubuntu, pidgin, gtalk, im, gaim, ubotu: no, im*, jabber
[17:03] <nosrednaekim> !info gaim (dapper)
[17:03] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB
[17:04] <DarkTan_> ok, giam works too
[17:04] <_mark_> Jucato: Yes . . . I think it the file in question was corrupted during a hard reset of the system, which I had to execute since my computer locked up.  And I can't get into X, either . . .  :-(  ;-)
[17:04] <Jucato> nosrednaekim: you can drop the  ( ) too
[17:04] <nosrednaekim> Jucato: thanks :D
[17:04] <Sanne> limac: good to hear, so have fun with blender :)
[17:04] <Jucato> !info gaim edgy
[17:04] <limac> Sanne: do u no why i cannot use the combo of Alt + left mouse button to rotatte in kubuntu?
[17:04] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB
[17:04] <DarkTan_> where does it install new programs?
[17:04] <adhi> ok
[17:04] <Sanne> limac: hold on a sec, making coffee, brb
[17:05] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: in /usr/bin
[17:05] <limac> Sanne: sure
[17:05] <DarkTan_> ok
[17:05] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: you can run them with "gaim" or "firefox" from the terminal.... or they should be in your Kmenu
[17:10] <DarkTan_> linked them on the desk top
[17:10] <jay1> i have a question,why does knemo spawn another instance when i use adept?
[17:10] <nosrednaekim> whats knemo?
[17:10] <nosrednaekim> !info knemo
[17:10] <Jucato> network monitor
[17:10] <ubotu> knemo: network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.8-1 (gutsy), package size 278 kB, installed size 1408 kB
[17:10]  * Jucato whistles innocently
[17:10] <andrew__> Hello?
[17:11] <Jucato> yes?
[17:11] <nosrednaekim> uhh oh...kdesudo problems again ?
[17:11] <Sanne> limac: sometimes the window manager catches modifier keys. I think, alt is mapped to something in Kubuntu by default. I always free the alt key and use the windows key as modifier for the window manager, so the alt is free for applications.
[17:11] <andrew__> Can someone help me... Never used linux before
[17:11] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: whats the problem?
[17:11] <jay1> it happens when i also use automatix as well
[17:11] <andrew__> I can't see my ntfs hardrive
[17:11] <adhi> how to install Compiz & Compiz Fusion plugins
[17:12] <limac> Sanne: how do i do that?
[17:12] <DreadKnight> !ntfs andrew__
[17:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs andrew__ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:12] <Jucato> !ntfs | andrew__
[17:12] <ubotu> andrew__: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE
[17:12] <DarkTan_> ok, i got homework to do, thx for all you help
[17:12] <DreadKnight> andrew__: i think you need to mount your drive ;)
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: you are on gutsy 7.10... right?
[17:12] <Sanne> limac: I always forget where I did that... looking right now, hold on
[17:12] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: YVW :)
[17:13] <adhi> how to install Compiz & Compiz Fusion plugins
[17:13] <jay1> hmmm,must be a bug
[17:13] <limac> Sanne: take ur time!
[17:13] <andrew__> Yes i am
[17:13] <Jucato> limac: System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Window Actions tab
[17:13] <Jucato> Sanne: ^^^
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: system settings-> advanced tab -> disks and filesystems
[17:13] <RytmenPinnen> hey, I have a tiny problem, something is using xine preventing me looking at vids but i dont know what
[17:13] <Sanne> Jucato: thanks :)
[17:14] <limac> Jucato: wow! thanks
[17:14] <nosrednaekim> RytmenPinnen: go into system settings->sound system and mke the kde release control of the sound system immediately
[17:14] <limac> Jucato Sanne: thx it's working now!
[17:14] <andrew__> It gives me an error when  I say enable
[17:14] <adhi> how to install Compiz & Compiz Fusion plugins
[17:15] <Sanne> limac: you can also configure some key behaviour in blender itself, in it's user preferences window.
[17:15] <toguro> slt je suis novice quelqu'un pourrai m'aider
[17:15] <Sanne> limac: ah, cool! :)
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: are you in administrator mode?
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> !fr
[17:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[17:15] <andrew__> yes
[17:15] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: whats the error?
[17:15] <toguro> Merci
[17:16] <limac> Sanne: during the installation of kubuntu why can't i migrate file between accounts?
[17:16] <andrew__> The system reported: [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[17:17] <Sanne> limac: hmm, not sure, sorry.
[17:17] <limac> Sanne: that's all right
[17:17] <RytmenPinnen> nosrednaekim: didnt work, but
[17:17] <limac> thx a lot anyway
[17:17] <adhi> how to get repository Compiz & Compiz Fusion plugins
[17:17] <limac> see ya
[17:17] <RytmenPinnen> quitting deluge did the job o.O
[17:17] <jussi01> !compiz | RytmenPinnen
[17:17] <ubotu> RytmenPinnen: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[17:17] <Sanne> you're welcome, limac
[17:17] <jussi01> gah
[17:18] <jussi01> adhi: ^
[17:18] <andrew__> The system reported: [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[17:18] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: wow.... never see that before. ok what you need to do is run "kdesudo kate /etc/fstab" go to the end of the last line of the file and press "enter" and save the file
[17:18] <jay1> sounds like he's got whitespace in his fstab file
[17:19] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: actually... pastebin that file for me
[17:19] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin
[17:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[17:20] <noaXess> does anybody have me a hint, with which program i can male a watersign on pictures.. 100 pictures.. nedd something automatically..
[17:20] <andrew__> Ok
[17:20] <noaXess> is there eg. a plugin for gwenview?
[17:20] <Jucato> Sanne: too bad limac's gone. I just realized a way to set Win/Meta as the modifier key *only* for specific windows (like Blender only)
[17:20] <vasilisa>  i just did something stupid. My cd roms arent mountiing correctly because i deleted the mount points under /media that looked like files and tries to replace them with folders to mount to, so it would look cleaner.... now its saying stuff like it cant read the dvd because i might not have permission, and K3b cant even mount it .
[17:21] <andrew__> Here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49842/
[17:21] <Sanne> Jucato: oh, that's interesting. How is that done?
[17:21] <Tonio_> tonio
[17:21] <vasilisa> andrew__: Thats to me?
[17:22] <Tonio_> oups...
[17:22] <Jucato> Sanne: ohwait nvm... I made a boo boo :P
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: in that pastebin.... is lines 5 and 6 actually on one linein the file?
[17:22] <Jucato> (it applied to all windows hahah!)
[17:22] <Sanne> Jucato: haha, ok :)
[17:22] <andrew__> How do I make my text go red?
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> KWIN4 can do that..
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: thats just because I mention your name in it.
[17:23] <nosrednaekim> !tab
[17:23] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[17:23] <Sanne> andrew__: the chat client colors text when somebody mentions your name
[17:24] <andrew__> nosrednaekim 5 and six are not on one line
[17:24] <vasilisa>  i just did something stupid. My cd roms arent mountiing correctly because i deleted the mount points under /media that looked like files and tries to replace them with folders to mount to, so it would look cleaner.... now its saying stuff like it cant read the dvd because i might not have permission, and K3b cant even mount it .
[17:25] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: it is because the window is too small? maximize the kate window. if they are still not on the same line... i'll have to fix that..
[17:26] <andrew__> nosrednaekim they still on different lines...
[17:27] <vasilisa> Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)
[17:27] <vasilisa> someone help me understand that?
[17:27] <vasilisa> In kaffeine
[17:27] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: ok... thats probably the problem... put all of those UUID lines up into the previous line.
[17:28] <andrew__> nosrednaekim what are UUID lines?
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> the lines that begin with UUID ;)
[17:28] <nosrednaekim> put them up to the previous line...
[17:28] <andrew__> nosrednaekim ah ok
[17:29] <nosrednaekim> should look like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49844/
[17:30] <andrew__> nosrednaekim ok done that
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> pastebin it...
[17:32] <andrew__> ok
[17:32] <andrew__> Here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49845/
[17:35] <nosrednaekim> erase the last line in that file
[17:35] <andrew__> the blank one?
[17:35] <sparr> with kvpnc, what settings do i use for a "normal" cisco vpn?  that is, one that windows xp connects to with no special configuration.
[17:38] <andrew__> the blank one?
[17:38] <andre> sorry i need the german kubuntu channel once again
[17:39] <Sanne> !de
[17:39] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: the blank one an the last text line as well
[17:39] <NickPresta> What is the corresponding driver on the nvidia website to nvidia-glx-new in the repos?
[17:39] <sparr> NickPresta: apt-cache show nvidia-glx-new and check the version
[17:41] <andrew__> nosrednaekim Ok done: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49847/
[17:42] <NickPresta> sparr, yeah, I see '100.14.19' in the repos. When I check the Nvidia archives, I see that was released on Sept. 21, 2007. The latest driver is 169.07, released a few days ago. Is the version in the repos 1 version behind the official version?
[17:42] <sigma> does anyone here know how to share the internet connection if im using a usb modem? i have the internet working on my pc, just can't share it. i want to share it to another linux pc
[17:42] <sigma> it probably is, dont think it can be updated very quickly
[17:44] <Sanne> NickPresta: the *ubuntus generally won't get version updates during their lifetime, only for bugfixes and security.
[17:44] <sparr> NickPresta: sometimes.  probably.
[17:44] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: ok... reboot
[17:44] <andrew__> ok
[17:44] <NickPresta> sparr, hmm, okay. I suppose I will have to use the driver from the website then. Thanks.
[17:44] <sigma> Sanne: but shouldn't they put the updated one in the backports?
[17:45] <Sanne> sigma: maybe, I don't know.
[17:46] <WaltzingAlong> no
[17:46] <sigma> NickPresta: did u check in the gutsy-backports?
[17:47] <nico_> /echo $me
[17:47] <sparr> NickPresta: with debian theres the module-assistant method, dunno if ubuntu has that
[17:48] <BluesKaj> sparr yes , I have used it in the past installing fglrx drivers
[17:48] <BluesKaj> not intenionally of course...was a tutorial :)
[17:49] <BluesKaj> not intentionally
[17:49] <NickPresta> sparr, I just enabled the backports repo and pinned the packages so they are set to 'manual' install. Let me check to see if they have an updated driver
[17:56]  * LimCore is amazed by size of ubuntu failure to provide fonts that doesn't suck
[17:56] <jpatrick> LimCore: they look pretty good to me
[17:56] <Arwen> hmm? what's wrong with the default ones?
[17:56] <ardchoille> LimCore: They are nice IMHO
[17:56] <Arwen> there is a lack of good serif fonts, but who uses those?
[17:56] <LimCore> they fail to support  ó ż ź (polish) and some german glyphs
[17:57] <maybeway36> go in adept and install "ttf-anything"
[17:57] <LimCore> they show a rectange [] instead ó ż ź (polish) and some german glyphs
[17:57] <BluesKaj> eye candy is important to some , especially former windows users
[17:57] <maybeway36> ttf-whatever
[17:57] <LimCore> bitstream *  lack latin-2 glyphs,
[17:57] <maybeway36> there has to be some polish-supproting font inthere somewhere
[17:57] <LimCore> dejavu sans is incredible thin
[17:57] <maybeway36> try dejavu
[17:57] <LimCore> and nombus looks strange
[17:57] <Arwen> you could use Microsoft fonts
[17:57] <maybeway36> its like bitstream but with better international support
[17:57] <LimCore> onlye one not so terrible is dejavu serrif, but it is serrif
[17:57] <maybeway36> otherwise dejavu = bitstream
[17:58] <LimCore> maybeway36: on my system dejavu sans i gayified
[17:58] <maybeway36> and there is always liberation fonts you could try
[17:58] <LimCore> * is
[17:58] <LimCore> that is,  it is 0.5 pixels bold (thin), so it is always gray (anti alias)
[17:58] <maybeway36> weird
[17:59] <maybeway36> i posted my ttf-liberation pacjage here https://bugs.launchpad.net/linuxmint/+bug/176215
[17:59] <DarkTan_> ok, how do i make my digi cam work?
[17:59] <LimCore> maybeway36: looking
[18:00] <Arwen> DarkTan_, a digital camera or digikam?
[18:00] <DarkTan_> digital camera
[18:00] <ardchoille> DarkTan_: Which make/model?
[18:01] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: that was fast homework ;)
[18:01] <DarkTan_> bah
[18:01] <DarkTan_> i messed around with my wireless card to
[18:01] <DarkTan_> i was able to enable it, but can't pick up my network
[18:02] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: try out ndiswrapper...
[18:02] <maybeway36> i had to put my ESSID and WEP key in /etc/network/interfaces
[18:02] <nosrednaekim> !nsdiswrapper
[18:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nsdiswrapper - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:02] <maybeway36> !ndiswrapper
[18:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:02] <nosrednaekim> !ndiswrapper
[18:02] <ardchoille> DarkTan_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaDigitalCameras
[18:03] <DarkTan_> yay, mine's not on the list
[18:04] <ardchoille> DarkTan_: Doesn't mean it isn't supported, which make/model.
[18:04] <DarkTan_> photosmart m525
[18:04] <DarkTan_> HP
[18:04] <ardchoille> DarkTan_: It's in the list of supported cams.
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> HP  things should work... they are usually pretty good about linux upport
[18:05] <DarkTan_> well i reconizes the cam, but i can't get the pictures
[18:05] <ardchoille> DarkTan_: alt+f2, Peripherals > Digital Camera > click the camera and add it
[18:05] <ardchoille> DarkTan_: Ah, ok
[18:05] <ardchoille> DarkTan_: sorry, alt+f2 type in kcontrol
[18:06] <ardchoille> I don't know where that is in system settings
[18:06] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: using which program?
[18:06] <DarkTan_> konquer
[18:06] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: use digikam.
[18:07] <DarkTan_> ok
[18:07] <ardchoille> the digikam app rocks
[18:07] <DarkTan_> where is it?
[18:07] <nosrednaekim> konqueror sometimes has problems with the camera protocol... and is alot slower even when it does work.
[18:07] <Arwen> meh, digikam's missing a filename filter
[18:07] <nosrednaekim> graphics?
[18:07] <Arwen> DarkTan_, under graphics
[18:07]  * nosrednaekim is not using kde3
[18:07] <DarkTan_> nope
[18:08] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: just try running it from an "alt+f2" run dialog...
[18:08] <DarkTan_> did that, no good
[18:09] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: "sudo apt-get install digkam"
[18:09] <ardchoille> Where is "peripherals" in system settings?
[18:09] <nosrednaekim> don't think its there...
[18:09] <ardchoille> :(
[18:09] <ardchoille> I'm sure gonna miss kcontrol
[18:10] <DreadKnight> digikam
[18:10] <DarkTan_> installing
[18:10] <maybeway36> kcmshell --list?
[18:10] <maybeway36> that might help
[18:10] <DarkTan_> ok digikam is up and running
[18:10] <nosrednaekim> DreadKnight: yeah <_<
[18:11] <ardchoille> maybeway36: Yes, that works, but it'd be nice if system settings had it.
[18:11] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: isn't apt-get nice? :)
[18:11] <Arwen> oh yeah, where's kcontrol? I can't find it in any menu
[18:11] <Arwen> (apt-get is deprecated too)
[18:11] <DarkTan_> yes it is, i'm starting to get used to this stuff
[18:11] <ardchoille> Arwen: It's not in the menus for kde3.5.8, and it's gone in kde4
[18:11] <DreadKnight> what is newer than apt-get arwen?
[18:11] <Arwen> aptitude
[18:11] <Arwen> ardchoille, what? we have to use that incompetent system settings app?
[18:11] <DreadKnight> hmm... tought it's the same thing
[18:11] <maybeway36> apt-get will never go away thoguh
[18:11] <usr002> Hi mates
[18:11] <maybeway36> all the others depend on it i think
[18:12] <ardchoille> Arwen: yes :(
[18:12] <DarkTan_> ok added the cam
[18:12] <usr002> can anyone help me with this
[18:12] <usr002> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[18:12] <DreadKnight> arwen please give some examples of using aptitude
[18:12] <Arwen> DreadKnight, it is, except with mandatory repository syncing
[18:12] <Arwen> aptitude install blah
[18:12] <Arwen> aptitude remove blah
[18:12] <llutz> DreadKnight: man aptitude
[18:12] <Arwen> or just aptitude
[18:12] <ardchoille> aptitude purge blah
[18:12] <DreadKnight> apt-get is shorter xD
[18:12] <Arwen> :-P
[18:12] <Arwen> hmm, VLC keeps crashing when I call the open file dialog
[18:12] <llutz> DreadKnight: then try to search with apt-get for packages (not with apt-cache) :()
[18:12] <Arwen> doesn't seem to like KDE
[18:13] <DarkTan_> ok, hoe do i get my pics now?
[18:13] <zibrah3ed> ptitude is a very useful curses-based front end to the apt toolset.
[18:13] <DarkTan_> w00t! never mind got it
[18:14] <DreadKnight> ok guys thanks :) i see ^^
[18:14] <andrew__> nosrednaekim hi! Thanks for your help earlier... I can see the hardrive now, but when I try to mount it is gives me this: hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[18:14] <nosrednaekim> DarkTan_: it working?
[18:15] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: ok... thats fairly easy to fix...
[18:15] <DarkTan_> yeah, just need to find out where it put them
[18:16] <DarkTan_> ok, don't need to know, just drag and drow
[18:16] <sparr> how can i get the gnome network manager applet (nm-applet) to show up in my kde panel or system tray?
[18:16] <DarkTan_> drop*
[18:16] <DarkTan_> this thing rox
[18:16] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: go into system settings->advanced->disks and filesystems
[18:17] <andrew__> ya?
[18:17] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: select your windows partition and click "modify"
[18:17] <nosrednaekim> change the mount permissions to "all users"
[18:17] <nosrednaekim> sparr: should should be able to just run it.
[18:17] <DarkTan_> ok, back to home work, i come back if i get the wireless up
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> homework on christmas break?
[18:18] <andrew__> theres no option to modify
[18:18] <nefta> hi
[18:18] <DreadKnight> did anyone managed to upgrade to kde4 recently? the packages where broken a few days ago
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: then press "new" with that partition selected
[18:18] <sparr> nosrednaekim: when i run it i get nothing.  if i have a gnome-panel open i see it there, but nothing in kicker
[18:19] <andrew__> Ok done
[18:19] <andre> need help plz i want to change with kwrite a txt file but i havent the permission can anybody help me plz
[18:19] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: now click modify, and you're going to need to change something..
[18:19] <sparr> anderson_: kdesu kwrite file.txt
[18:19] <sparr> andre: ^^
[18:20] <nefta> how can I look for another channels or rooms??
[18:20] <andrew__> ok
[18:20] <sparr> nefta: what client?  /list works everywhere, but its not the best
[18:20] <jussi01> !irc | nefta
[18:20] <ubotu> nefta: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[18:21] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: what do you have as the mount point?
[18:21] <nefta> whoops
[18:21] <spykedtomato> hey all
[18:22] <spykedtomato> anyone here familliar with gtkpod?
[18:22] <andrew__> This: <mount point>
[18:22] <andrew__> andrew_ hi
[18:22] <spykedtomato> <-- gtkpod n00b, and today google is NOT my friend ;)
[18:23] <nefta> could somebody show me the link to get into any argentina´s channel?
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: change it to "/mount/windows"
[18:23] <andrew__> OK
[18:23] <andrew__> done
[18:24] <nosrednaekim> make the "type" ntfs
[18:24] <nosrednaekim> check "enable at startup"
[18:25] <andrew__> done
[18:25] <nosrednaekim> change "mount permission" to "any user may mount unmount"
[18:25] <nosrednaekim> hit ok.. and "enable" it.
[18:25] <andrew__> done
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> ok... go to /media/windows in konqueror
[18:26] <andrew__> when I press ok it gives me this: /mount/windows
[18:26] <andrew__> The mountpoint '/mount/windows' does not exist. You will not be able to enable it until it is created.\
[18:26] <andrew__> Should I create the mountpoint?
[18:26] <nosrednaekim> yes.. create it
[18:27] <nefta> could somebody show me the link to get into any argentina´s channel?
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> !ar
[18:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:27] <nosrednaekim> !argentina
[18:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about argentina - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:27] <hydrogen> its #kubuntu-countrycode
[18:27] <hydrogen> err
[18:27] <hydrogen> #ubuntu
[18:27] <hydrogen> if there is one
[18:27] <andrew__> An error occurred while enabling <mount point>.
[18:27] <andrew__> The system reported: fuse: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[18:27] <andrew__> FUSE mount point creation failed
[18:27] <andrew__> Unmounting /dev/sda1 ()
[18:28] <spykedtomato> anyone familliar with gtkpod? I'm trying to figure out how to sync the master playlist from a folder and INCLUDE all subfolders - but I'm snagged...
[18:28] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: try it again...
[18:28] <nosrednaekim> if it fails again... reboot (which is the simplest way to fix that)
[18:28] <andrew__> When I try enable it gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49853/
[18:29] <ciao> what's the equivalent of visual web developer in linux?
[18:29] <andrew__> When I try enable it gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49853/
[18:29] <nosrednaekim> ciao: nvu
[18:29] <Jucato> nvu is no longer maintained. it's succeeded by kompozer now
[18:29] <ciao> ok nvu is the name of the ide?
[18:30] <jussi01> !kompozer
[18:30] <ubotu> kompozer is WYSIWYG HTML editor for easily creating web pages, and the continuation of the dead Nvu project. It is available in !Universe on !Gutsy, !Backports on !Feisty, and from  « deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tonyyarusso/ubuntu edgy universe » for Edgy.  (Dapper still pending)
[18:30] <Jucato> yes
[18:30] <Jucato> !info nvu
[18:30] <ubotu> Package nvu does not exist in gutsy
[18:30] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: does it still show <mount point> as the location that it will be mounted to?
[18:30] <dorkface> Hi all.  I just installed kubuntu server 7.10, and when I try to apt-get packages it searches for the cd-rom.  I tried commenting out the cd-rom line, but if I try again, it says that it can't find any of the packages that I try to get.  Any suggestions?
[18:30] <andrew__> ok
[18:30] <ciao> can you creat css with kompozer ?
[18:30] <jussi01> ciao: yes
[18:31] <ciao> yeaaaaaaaaah cool thx
[18:31] <nosrednaekim> dorkface: run "sudo apt-get update"
[18:31] <ciao> I'll get it
[18:31] <andrew__> nosrednaekim yes it does still show that
[18:31] <jussi01> ciao: quanta isnt that bad either
[18:31] <jussi01> !info quanta | ciao
[18:31] <dorkface> ah ok, something happened with my connection. thanks :)
[18:31] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: modify it again and change it to /media/windows
[18:31] <ubotu> ciao: quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2385 kB, installed size 5744 kB
[18:32] <andrew__> Cool It Worked!!!
[18:32] <ciao> quanta or kompozer? or should I try them both?
[18:32] <andrew__> Thanks!!! Can I ask you one more thing?
[18:33] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: sweet :D
[18:33] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: go ahead
[18:34] <andrew__> How do I enable my cdrom?
[18:34] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: what happens when you pop in a CD?
[18:36] <andrew__> Ah it seems to work
[18:36] <nosrednaekim> XD
[18:36] <andrew__> How do you know all this?
[18:37] <nosrednaekim> been using linux for 5 years.... you learn things :D
[18:37] <andrew__> WOW!
[18:37] <andrew__> It's amazing
[18:38] <nosrednaekim> yeah, once you have all of the hardware problems sorted out.
[18:39] <andrew__> How do you change the refresh rate to 60hz?
[18:39] <maybeway36> i would look in /etc/X11/xorg.ci\onf
[18:39] <maybeway36> */etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:40] <TimS> I've just turned my PC on, but I cant access Localhost, how can I check the status of my Apache server?
[18:41] <dorkface> What would be the best point-to-point file transfer protocol in terms of minimal overhead?  rsync?
[18:41] <ardchoille> TimS: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 status
[18:41] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: is the refresh rate bothering you?
[18:41] <andrew__> well I can only set it to 50 or 51, but in windows I had it at 60
[18:41] <TimS> ardchoille:  * Usage: /etc/init.d/apache2 {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload|start-htcacheclean|stop-htcacheclean}
[18:41] <TimS> Ill see if it starts :P
[18:42] <TimS> Ah, it doesn't.
[18:42] <ardchoille> TimS: Ah, no status? Thanks for the heads up.
[18:42] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: but is the refresh rate bothering you? usually X detects the best refresh rate.
[18:43] <andrew__> I see, no it's not really, but I don't like the fonts
[18:43] <bmk789_> anyone using a 2.6.24 kernel on 64bit?
[18:43] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: change them ;)
[18:43] <nosrednaekim> bmk789_: that would be for #ubuntu +1
[18:44] <andrew__> How?
[18:44] <andrew__> Oh nevermind got it
[18:46] <nosrednaekim> andrew__: haveta go... have fun :D
[18:47] <andrew__> byebye
[18:47] <spykedtomato> In gtkpod I'm trying to figure out how to sync the master playlist from a folder and INCLUDE all subfolders - but can't figure it out - when I sync it only syncs the files in the main dir and not the subfolders... I'm using gtkpod 0.99.10 on kubuntu gutsy with libgpod 0.6.0 with my iPod Classic 160Gb
[18:49] <chato> wenas
[18:56] <LOGAN> where are installed apps in life mode stored and how can I browse to them
[19:05] <konrad> An Amarok-script wants me to install pygtk. aptitude search pygtk gives no results. Anyone knows what it is called?
[19:06] <fdoving> konrad: python-gtk
[19:08] <Tonren> When I go to System Settings and change "GTK Style" to "Use another style: [Qt]" under Appearance, my changes aren't saved.  I click Apply, close the window, then go back to the same window and "Use my KDE style in GTK applications" is selected again.
[19:10] <konrad> fdoving: python-gtk doesn't exist. python-gtk2 already installed. Installed python-gtk-1.2 as well but the script still complains
[19:10] <nikolaj> Amarok triggered install of mp3 support and after it it asks to restart amarok, but then i still can't play mp3 files and it still triggers the mp3 support install
[19:10] <fdoving> konrad: might need the -dev packages, python-gtk2-dev maybe?
[19:11] <konrad> Worth a try
[19:13] <nikolaj> Now how can i enable mp3 support. Totem plays mp3 files nicely. Is there something I have to activate inside amarok, which amarok forgot to set automatically?
[19:14] <konrad> Didn't work either unfortunately. Oh, well. Will try to figure that out later. Have to go afk
[19:14] <konrad> Thanks anyway
[19:16] <fdoving> konrad: might want to try #amarok then
[19:24] <white_eagle> does anyone of you own a ps3?
[19:25] <david__> can anyone help a newb with ndiswrapper
[19:25] <ardchoille> !ndiswrapper
[19:25] <jussi01> david__: have you followed the guide?
[19:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[19:25] <david__> tried to
[19:25] <jussi01> david__: is it for broadcom?
[19:26] <david__> no wmp54g
[19:26] <david__> linksys
[19:26] <david__> everythings installed but windows drivers
[19:27] <david__> couldnt figure out how to get cabextract
[19:28] <Sanne> david__: install package cabextract ;)
[19:30] <david__> how di i do that
[19:30] <david__> im very new to linux
[19:31] <Arwen> david__, apt-get install cabextract
[19:31] <david__> ty
[19:31] <ardchoille> david__: sudo apt-get install cabextract
[19:31] <Arwen> !apt | david__ for future reference
[19:31] <ubotu> david__ for future reference: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[19:32] <Sanne> david__: if you're new, you might find this info helpful also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[19:32] <david__> couldnt find pkg cabextract
[19:33] <Arwen> oh yeah, you need to enable the universe repository, see Sanne's link
[19:33] <usr002> hi !!! again
[19:33] <ardchoille> david__: Which version of kubuntu are you using?
[19:34] <usr002> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[19:34] <usr002> i-m geting this error
[19:34] <david__> 7.10
[19:34] <Drk_Guy> Hi guys
[19:34] <usr002> when mounting my external hdd
[19:34] <ardchoille> david__: Then universe should have been enabled by default
[19:34] <Drk_Guy> I have a question
[19:34] <Dr_willis> Its amazing the # of times i see someone asking about that a week usr002 .. i "THINK" the fix is put a proper fstab entry for your drive.
[19:34] <Drk_Guy> Why there is no torrent for the Cd releases?
[19:35] <Dr_willis> Drk_Guy,  ive seen torrents for all the cd images.
[19:35] <Arwen> same here
[19:35] <Drk_Guy> Where?
[19:35] <Drk_Guy> I can't see em on the official site
[19:35] <Drk_Guy> http://www.kubuntu.com/download.php
[19:35] <Dr_willis> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/
[19:35] <Arwen> http://ubuntu.eriders.ge/releases/kubuntu/gutsy/ <-- scroll down
[19:36] <Arwen> or any mirror really
[19:36] <Drk_Guy> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/gutsy/release/dvd/
[19:36] <Drk_Guy> *dvd*
[19:36] <Drk_Guy> I want a cd
[19:36] <Drk_Guy> *cd*
[19:36] <ardchoille> Drk_Guy: Click on the CD link, choose a mirror and then look for a .torrent
[19:36] <Arwen> Drk_Guy, did you even read my post?
[19:36] <Dr_willis> My Fave Torrent site for Ubuntu ---> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[19:36] <Drk_Guy> Arwen: Where?
[19:37] <Arwen> [14:35] <Arwen> http://ubuntu.eriders.ge/releases/kubuntu/gutsy/ <-- scroll down
[19:37] <Drk_Guy> It's a lot of time since i left the ubuntu comunity
[19:37] <Drk_Guy> And i want to go back
[19:37] <Arwen> there's a bunch of file links at the bottom, look for the one that ends in .torrent
[19:37] <Arwen> they're all CDs
[19:37] <Dr_willis> http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ shows the # of leechers and so forth. - not a lot of people shareing torrents at this time it seems.
[19:38] <Drk_Guy> Got the torrent, thx to Dr_willis
[19:38] <Dr_willis> May be faster to use the ftp sites
[19:38] <Drk_Guy> Ftp sucks
[19:38] <Drk_Guy> So slow
[19:38] <Dr_willis> Drk_Guy,  i have to disagree...
[19:38]  * jussi01 gets > 600kbs from the direct download...
[19:38] <Dr_willis> it all depends..
[19:38] <trappist> erm, ftp isn't any slower than http
[19:38] <Arwen> the mirrors are faster than my connection, so meh
[19:38] <Drk_Guy> ...
[19:38] <Drk_Guy> I prefer torrent
[19:38] <Arwen> 160 seeds to 20 peers on the desktop ISO
[19:39] <Drk_Guy> Than http/ftp
[19:39] <trappist> if anything it has less application layer overhead, and should be faster
[19:39] <Dr_willis> I got very good speeds on the torrents when the disks were first released. -  Proberly wont be near as fast now.
[19:39] <Arwen> Drk_Guy, since you're too lazy to read what I say, http://ubuntu.eriders.ge/releases/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[19:39] <Dr_willis> Of course when ya have 6000+ seeds. :)
[19:39] <ardchoille> !coc | Arwen
[19:39] <ubotu> Arwen: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[19:40] <Drk_Guy> Got it Arwen
[19:40] <david__> still needing help installing drivers in ndiswrapper
[19:40] <aszxc> hi
[19:40] <aszxc> how can i print the name of CD ?
[19:40] <Drk_Guy> Dr_willis: I still prefer Torrent because there is lesser chance for the server to hang up
[19:40] <ardchoille> david__: Were you able to install cabextract?
[19:40] <david__> no
[19:40] <Drk_Guy> Ok
[19:40] <Arwen> aszxc, as in the volume label?
[19:41] <Drk_Guy> Same wait time as for Drift City
[19:41] <Drk_Guy> lol
[19:41] <aszxc> Arwen yes
[19:41] <aszxc> Arwen i can't see it anywhere
[19:41] <Drk_Guy> Kde rocks Gnome
[19:41] <Drk_Guy> :P
[19:41] <ardchoille> david__: Did you enable universe?
[19:41] <aszxc> Arwen best to print it via command line
[19:41] <david__> is it in a certain directory
[19:42] <ardchoille> !repo | david__
[19:42] <ubotu> david__: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[19:42] <david__> probably not i am completely new to linux
[19:42] <ardchoille> david__: Good information there about how the repos work
[19:42] <Arwen> aszxc, hmm, can't find it off the top of my head, I'll see if I can get back to you in a few minutes
[19:42] <Drk_Guy> Silly question here!
[19:43] <Drk_Guy> Does kubuntu comes with Gtk+?
[19:43] <david__> repos?
[19:43] <aszxc> Arwen thnx
[19:43] <aszxc> Arwen i will wait
[19:43] <ardchoille> david__: yes, read that page that ubotu posted to you
[19:43] <jussi01> !nickspam > praisemachine
[19:43] <Drk_Guy> xD
[19:43] <Dr_willis> Drk_Guy,  you can easially install gnome and other gtk+ relat4ed apps
[19:44] <Drk_Guy> Dr_willis: So i doesn't come with it by default?
[19:44] <Dr_willis> Drk_Guy,  No idea. Never noticed.. never cared.. :) if i instgall an app that needs it.. it will get installed auto-magicially.
[19:44] <Drk_Guy> lol
[19:44] <Drk_Guy> Debian/Ubuntu magic
[19:44] <Dr_willis> of course its sprt of pointless to have it installed if nothing is using it.
[19:45] <Drk_Guy> Then i'll have to reuse my ownly created Lexmark script
[19:45] <Drk_Guy> :D
[19:45] <aszxc> Arwen i just found it in the 'dmesg' output
[19:45] <Arwen> alternatively, you can use the volname command, aszxc
[19:45] <Arwen> as in volname /dev/cdrom
[19:46] <Drk_Guy> I really miss the easiness of use of Ubuntu
[19:46] <Drk_Guy> But as i really don't like gnome
[19:46] <Drk_Guy> I chose kubuntu
[19:46] <Arwen> heh
[19:46]  * Arwen always wanted to try Gentoo, but not having a Core 2 Duo @ 3.4 GHz kind of killed that
[19:46] <Drk_Guy> Cool
[19:47] <Drk_Guy> lol
[19:47] <aszxc> Arwen cool, thnx
[19:47] <aszxc> bye
[19:47] <aszxc> :)
[19:47]  * Drk_Guy has passed troughout Debian, Knoppix, DSL, Puppylinux, Backtrack, Fedora and Slackware
[19:47] <Drk_Guy> But /me chooses to get back to Ubuntu
[19:48] <Arwen> I've used an old version of slackware and DSL, but the only thing I've tried seriously is K/ubuntu
[19:48] <Drk_Guy> The distro that i used the most was Debian
[19:48] <Arwen> can't beat the 1 CD installer :-\
[19:48] <Drk_Guy> Ubuntu's mum
[19:48] <Drk_Guy> No?
[19:48] <Drk_Guy> It's too easy
[19:48] <Drk_Guy> I prefer the GUI method
[19:48]  * Arwen doesn't like Debian's release cycle. It's glacial.
[19:49]  * Drk_Guy really think Debian is too stable
[19:49] <Drk_Guy> And Ubuntu is too Edgy
[19:49] <Drk_Guy> xD
[19:49] <Arwen> speaking of that, framebuffer consoles are broken in 7.10 :-\
[19:49] <Arwen> lame
[19:49] <Drk_Guy> Huh?
[19:49] <Drk_Guy> Anyway, i can beat that
[19:50] <Drk_Guy> I'm used to the txt only boot-up
[19:50] <jussi01> !oftopic
[19:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oftopic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:50] <jussi01> !offtopic
[19:50] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[19:50] <Arwen> jussi01, take a tea break or something, nobody's asking questions.
[19:50] <Drk_Guy> jussi01: If no one is asking anything, we can make lil offtopic stuff
[19:51] <Drk_Guy> Arwen: Your host-name reveals your wikipedia-staff
[19:51] <Drk_Guy> Cool
[19:51] <Drk_Guy> O.O
[19:51] <Arwen> no, not really
[19:51] <Drk_Guy> No?
[19:51] <Arwen> They give away the hostmasks :-P
[19:51] <Arwen> just ask
[19:51] <Dr_willis> can i get a hostmask that says "DrOfLove" ? :)
[19:51] <Drk_Guy> They gave me a rare hostname
[19:51] <Drk_Guy> a random one
[19:52] <Arwen> heh
[19:52]  * Drk_Guy chillz to Gorillaz - El Mañana / Kids with Gunz
[19:52] <ardchoille> Hostmask requests should be directed to a freenode staffer
[19:52]  * Dr_willis performs a Z-botomy on Drk_Guy
[19:52] <Drk_Guy> So you just chose that stuff?
[19:52] <Arwen> say, is there a way to get a now-playing script for Konversation?
[19:52] <jussi01> Arwen: /media
[19:53]  * Drk_Guy performs a tux-throw at Dr_willis
[19:53] <Arwen> jussi01, thanks a thousand
[19:53]  * Dr_willis Jamms to Pat Boone - In a Metal Mood.mp3
[19:53] <jussi01> Arwen: :)
[19:53] <Drk_Guy>  /media works all times
[19:53] <ardchoille> !ot
[19:53] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[19:53]  * Arwen is listening to The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny by Lemon Demon on The Ultimate Showdown [Amarok]
[19:53] <Arwen> yep, it works
[19:53]  * Drk_Guy killz you to Gorillaz - Every Planet we Reach is Dead
[19:54] <Drk_Guy> lol
[19:54] <Drk_Guy> Dudes, what do you prefer?
[19:54] <Drk_Guy> K or G?
[19:54] <NickPresta> Is it really that hard to type '/join #kubuntu-offtopic'? You can chat all you want in there.
[19:54] <Drk_Guy> Chill down NickPresta
[19:54] <Drk_Guy> Take it easy
[19:54] <Drk_Guy> No one's asking
[19:54] <Arwen> what's the big deal? if we weren't talking, the channel'd be quiet
[19:55] <Drk_Guy> Yeah
[19:55] <NickPresta> Drk_Guy, I am chill. This is a support channel. It's meant for support as per the /topic.
[19:55] <Drk_Guy> NickPresta: Are you trying to make a kludge?
[19:55] <sourcemaker> Yeah... I am asking... again... *g* Are ther kernel profs here?
[19:55] <ardchoille> Channel rules are there for a reason and should be followed regardless of current channel traffic.
[19:55] <Arwen> and if anything, silence turns away newcomers more than offtopic chat
[19:55] <Drk_Guy> NickPresta: Just chill down, and wait for sum1 to ask
[19:55] <Sanne> it's a bit hard for people who are glancing at the channel window from time to time if somebody needs help... and it just offtopic chat that alerts them.
[19:55] <Bruno> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz boring
[19:56] <Lynoure> It's quite hard to re-rail a derailed channel. I hope it does not happen to this one.
[19:56] <Drk_Guy> What are we going to do?...
[19:56] <Drk_Guy> "..."
[19:56] <NickPresta> Drk_Guy, you can take the chat to !ot. :)
[19:57] <sourcemaker> Here is my simple question... to prevent offtopics ;-) I have compiled and install the last vanilla kernel <IP_ADDRESS> with nvidia support myself... how can I prevent apt to install the next kubuntu kernel release....????
[19:57] <Lynoure> Does anyone know if Hardy will have direct upgrade to the next (actual) LTS version that comes after it?
[19:57] <Drk_Guy> 8 h 30 m
[19:57] <Drk_Guy> left
[19:58] <Drk_Guy> ...
[19:58] <Drk_Guy> :(
[19:58] <jussi01> !pinning | sourcemaker
[19:58]  * jussi01 waits for the bot...
[19:58] <NickPresta> sourcemaker, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html Check out the section on pinning.
[19:59] <sourcemaker> NickPresta: Great... thanks
[19:59]  * Drk_Guy read the ubotu tip
[19:59] <NickPresta> sourcemaker, it's section 3.10, I believe.
[19:59] <Drk_Guy> Debian is cool, but it is really late released
[19:59] <Drk_Guy> Don't you think so?
[20:00] <Drk_Guy> The inclusion of Compiz by default is a real cool desicion
[20:00] <jussi01> Drk_Guy: please take the offtopic to #kubuntu-offtopic
[20:00] <Drk_Guy> *desition
[20:00] <Drk_Guy> F...
[20:01] <vasilisa> !libdvdcss
[20:01] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[20:01] <vasilisa> Am i to understand that it is now illegal to have software that can play dvds on linux?
[20:01] <Drk_Guy> Wt?!!!
[20:01] <stdin> depends where you are
[20:02] <vasilisa> America
[20:02] <Drk_Guy> Ah
[20:02]  * Drk_Guy chillz
[20:02] <Drk_Guy> Colombia's tech trules SUCK
[20:02] <stdin> then it may be (IANAL)
[20:02] <Lynoure> Drk_Guy: if you want my opinion on Debian and Kubuntu, I'll gladly tell you on #kubuntu-offtopic as it's on my mind a lot currently :)
[20:02] <Drk_Guy> *rules
[20:02] <vasilisa> That is so fecking stupid
[20:02] <vasilisa> what are they trying to do? alienate us?
[20:02] <Dr_willis> vasilisa,   There are comercial dvd programs for linux.
[20:03] <Drk_Guy> Commercial?
[20:03] <Drk_Guy> Eeewww
[20:03] <Arwen> vasilisa, it always was illegal
[20:03] <Dr_willis> some disrtos (comercial ones) have  legal dvd players. :)
[20:03] <stdin> you can buy the codec, yes
[20:03] <vasilisa> Whats it to the DVD format guys what operating systems we play on!?
[20:03] <Arwen> thank your representative
[20:03] <Dr_willis> I was thinking that Dell-Ubuntu package did so.
[20:03] <Dr_willis> vasilisa,  its not the dvd format.. its the encryption OF the dvd.
[20:03] <Arwen> vasilisa, don't shout. It's not really relevant to the channel anyhow, but they don't want open source implementations of CSS decryption.
[20:04] <vasilisa> u.u *sigh*
[20:04] <vasilisa> it just really twists my ears....
[20:04] <vasilisa> sorry
[20:04] <Dr_willis> the css decryption - is such an interesting history/story  to read about.
[20:04] <Drk_Guy> Content Scrambling System
[20:05] <Arwen> incidentally, at this time, with Blu-Ray and HD-DVD out, nobody really cares if you have libdvdcss, so screw the law (not an official suggestion)
[20:05] <Drk_Guy> NOT Cascaded Style Sheets
[20:05] <Arwen> ^^ or cross-site-scripting
[20:05] <Dr_willis> Communist Security Systems
[20:05] <vasilisa> Arwen: Then by all means, inform me how to make dvds work on my computer again
[20:05] <Dr_willis> !dvd
[20:05] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[20:05] <Arwen> ^^
[20:06] <Drk_Guy> lol
[20:06] <Dr_willis> In short.. Enable the Medibuntu repo.. install the packages needed. :)
[20:06] <vasilisa> Arwen: oh, medibuntu... *looks for*
[20:06] <ardchoille> !medibuntu
[20:06] <Dr_willis> !medibuntu
[20:06] <Dr_willis> :)
[20:06] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[20:06] <vasilisa> thank you
[20:07] <vasilisa> Ive been reading V for Vendetta, so guess what mood im in when it comes to stupid laws :D
[20:07] <Arwen> (thank your congressman)
[20:08] <vasilisa> Will do.
[20:08] <Dr_willis> Reading? Whats this 'reading' of which you speak?
[20:08] <Drk_Guy> yeah
[20:08] <Drk_Guy> An OS revolution!!!!
[20:08] <vasilisa> Dr_willis: Its a comic book.
[20:08] <stdin> it's your choice to obey the laws of your land, but please don't "brag" about it ;)
[20:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[20:08] <vasilisa> I didnt say anything :3
[20:08] <Drk_Guy> FFS, attack Congressman
[20:08] <Drk_Guy> *FSF
[20:09] <vasilisa> I envy people who live in countries that are better about these things.
[20:09] <Drk_Guy> Rms must act
[20:09] <vasilisa> anyway bai
[20:09] <Drk_Guy> What do you think about MS-GPL?
[20:10] <ardchoille> Drk_Guy: Please take off-topic chatter to another channel. Last warning.
[20:10] <Drk_Guy> ardchoille: Is anyone asking up something?
[20:10] <Drk_Guy> Just chill dude
[20:10] <stdin> Drk_Guy: doesn't matter, you've been warned
[20:10] <jussi01> Drk_Guy: as stated earlier, that really isnt the point.
[20:11] <Drk_Guy> Ok
[20:11] <Drk_Guy> All ops ignored
[20:11] <Arwen> *sigh* bueracracy
[20:11] <Drk_Guy> :)
[20:11] <Drk_Guy> All *ROGUE* ops
[20:12] <Drk_Guy> ...
[20:13] <Drk_Guy> And we continue to wait...
[20:15] <david__> if i upgrade kubuntu do i have to reinstall ndis wrapper?
[20:15] <Arwen> you will need to reinstall between kernel upgrades iirc.
[20:15] <Bruno> Alright Question:  I have xp installed on one hard disk.  If I install a flavor of ubuntu on a different hard disk will it change my boot partition to ubuntu's?
[20:16] <Bruno> i've never tried to and I do not wish to learn the hard way
[20:17] <david__> how can i upgrade 7.04 to the latest kernal version?
[20:17] <Arwen> Bruno, well, as far as boot partitions go, you'll just end up with one on each disk
[20:17] <Bruno> thats fine so long as i can specify the bott disk at startup
[20:17] <ardchoille> david__: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:17] <Arwen> david__, it's part of normal updates. You won't see a new major version unless you go to 7.10
[20:18] <Bruno> the only thing i need windows for is for playing some games where opengl just won't cut it
[20:18] <Arwen> Bruno, when you install, just read the text real carefully and manually partition whenever possible.
[20:18] <david__> thats the one i want 7.10
[20:18] <ardchoille> !upgrade | david__
[20:18] <ubotu> david__: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:19] <Bruno> Thanks
[20:19] <david__> reading comp is not to good
[20:19] <[ka]killer> humm, im trying to re-configure my mouse but i forgot the location of the config file @_@
[20:19] <david__> y i love this irc!
[20:20] <ardchoille> [ka]killer: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[20:20] <[ka]killer> thanks
[20:20] <[ka]killer> sorry, my brain is a bit scrambled right now
[20:20] <[ka]killer> been studying for SATs
[20:20] <ardchoille> No problem :)
[20:20] <Arwen> why would you study for the SAT?
[20:20]  * Arwen scratches head
[20:20] <ardchoille> !ot
[20:20] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[20:21] <[ka]killer> just the random crap i dont know
[20:21] <[ka]killer> for instance i fail at english
[20:23] <david__> any versions of kubuntu thats support wireless without ndiswrapper?
[20:25] <sourcemaker> davem_: Kubuntu Gusty does... (if you are not using wireless with a realtek chip)
[20:26] <david__> i have linksys WMP54G?
[20:27] <sourcemaker> david__: You can try the live-cd to test the connection... :-)
[20:27] <david__> IS THAT A REALTEC CHIP?
[20:27] <sourcemaker> david__: I do not know...
[20:27] <david__> caps sry
[20:28] <david__> k thnx
[20:28] <sourcemaker> david__: I have compiled the kernel my self... because I had problems with WLAN and Realtek
[20:29] <sourcemaker> david__: There are some problems in the current 2.6.23 kernel release with wlan and realtek
[20:37] <[ka]killer> humm
[20:38] <[ka]killer> anyone know why my tablet does not work? (its a tablet pc and it shows that its configured in the .conf file)
[20:38] <NickPresta> [ka]killer, what "does not work"?
[20:39] <[ka]killer> the entire thing, it does not sense the pen
[20:39] <[ka]killer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49872/
[20:40] <ardchoille> [ka]killer: Are the entires tablet at the bottom of /etc/X11/xorg.conf uncommented?
[20:40] <[ka]killer> wait what?
[20:41] <ardchoille> [ka]killer: Are you using Gutsy?
[20:41] <[ka]killer> yes
[20:41] <[ka]killer> i dont know what you mean by uncommented -_-
[20:41] <ardchoille> [ka]killer: Look at the bottom trhee entries in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:41] <[ka]killer> i am
[20:41] <[ka]killer> remove the #?
[20:41] <ardchoille> Do they have a "#" at the beginning?
[20:41] <[ka]killer> yes
[20:41] <ardchoille> Yes, remove those and restart x
[20:41] <[ka]killer> o
[20:42] <[ka]killer> thanks
[20:42] <ardchoille> [ka]killer: yw
[20:42] <[ka]killer> should i also remove the note to Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet
[20:42] <ardchoille> no
[20:42] <[ka]killer> k
[20:43] <ardchoille> Well, you can leave it or remove it, but don't uncomment it
[20:48] <[ka]killer__> humm
[20:48] <[ka]killer__> that seems to have killed Xserv
[20:48] <[ka]killer__> had to resort to my backup of xorg.conf
[20:50] <ardchoille> [ka]killer__: restarting xorg wills kde/kdm yes
[20:50] <ardchoille> s/wills/kills/
[20:51] <[ka]killer__> thats new
[20:51] <[ka]killer__> didnt do that in the past
[20:51] <[ka]killer__> unless i was messing with the display portion of xorg.conf
[20:51] <ardchoille> [ka]killer__: restarting xorg always kills kdm because kdm runs on top of xorg
[20:52] <[ka]killer> sorry had to kill xchat for a second there
[20:53] <[ka]killer> but when xorg restarts shouldnt kdm?
[20:53] <ardchoille> [ka]killer: If you restart xorg properly, then yes, kdm should restart too. How did you restart x?
[20:53] <[ka]killer> i'll deal with this later
[20:53] <[ka]killer> ctrl+alt+backspace
[20:53] <ardchoille> that's not the proper way to restartx
[20:54] <Dr_willis> If you startefd with kdm, went to X then used alt-ctrl-BS - normally KDm restarts for me.,
[20:54] <ardchoille> [ka]killer: The proper way to restart xorg is: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[20:54] <ardchoille> ctrl+alt+backspace is a "dirty" way of doing it, some things don't get saved.
[21:06] <sourcemaker> Can I shutdown KDE... will applications are running?
[21:06] <sourcemaker> while... not will
[21:09] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: Sure, if you log out it do it cleanly
[21:10] <Dr_willis> that will kill all the apps - of course. :)
[21:13] <ricardo> #ubuntu-games
[21:30] <russojt> is there a support or help channel?
[21:30] <ardchoille> russojt: Help for what? This channel is for kubuntu support
[21:30] <BluesKaj> !ask | russojt
[21:30] <ubotu> russojt: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[21:31] <Zealot87> alright, sometimes i get reemed out for asking in wrong channels :P
[21:31] <Zealot87> i cant get sound to work! :P, amarok plays just fine i just dont hear anything at all, test sounds dont work either
[21:32] <Zealot87> i have an onboard audio controller (AC'97) which could be getting in the way, i cant figure out how to switch it over to my pci sound card
[21:32] <ardchoille> !sound | Zealot87 have you seen this
[21:32] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[21:32] <ubotu> Zealot87 have you seen this: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[21:33] <Dr_willis> its also possible you got one of those chipsets thats not totally supported yet. :(
[21:33] <Zealot87> i've checked to see if sound is running, it is, i've tried switching from ALSA to OSS and such, no luck
[21:33] <Dr_willis> use lspci to get more info on what sound chipset you got.
[21:33] <Zealot87> i went into alsamixer to see if i could just adjust some things or turn them on or off and it doesnt work either
[21:34] <Topsun> Zealot87: no MMs below?
[21:34] <Zealot87> that seems impossible, Dr_willis, i have used it before a few years ago with ubuntu and it worked, and its an old sb audigy
[21:35] <Zealot87> Topsun: I tried all sorts of combinations with MMs and mms and nothing seemed to work
[21:35] <Zealot87> i really think that i just need to switch from the onboard ac to my pci ac card, but i cant figure out how to do that
[21:35] <Topsun> MM = left and right channel is muted
[21:36] <Zealot87> yeah, and you can unmute them and such, didnt work
[21:36] <Topsun> asoundconf list
[21:36] <Topsun> asoundconf set-default-card <onefromthelist>
[21:36] <Zealot87> SI7012
[21:36] <Zealot87> UART
[21:36] <Zealot87> Audigy
[21:36] <Zealot87> oooo, lemme try this :)
[21:38] <Zealot87> w000t! Topsun it worked, it changed the alsamixer to the audigy, and then i just went back in and fudged some of the MMed channels and it works! thanks !
[21:39] <Topsun> you are welcome
[21:39] <Zealot87> i felt so alone without my computer sound :P
[21:39] <Topsun> music makes life better :)
[21:40] <Zealot87> definitely
[21:40] <Tallen> Hi. Any pointers on getting usage of all 4GB on my PC? 'free -m' only reports 2.9GB. My BIOS info reports all 4GB. Kubuntu 7.10 (2.6.22-14-generic).
[21:40] <Dr_willis> Hmmm.. You just said an Audigy sound card is an AC97?  Hmm..  You may want to double check what modules are getting loaded.
[21:41] <Dr_willis> or did i missread that. :)
[21:42] <sourcemaker> Tallen: what's the output... pastbin?
[21:42] <Topsun> he has two cards
[21:42] <Dr_willis> Ok that makes more sence. :)
[21:42] <Dr_willis> i always disable the onboard befor i install.
[21:42] <Tallen> sourcemaker: output of what? 'free -m' ?
[21:42] <sourcemaker> Tallen: sure
[21:44] <Tallen> sourcemaker: http://www.pastebin.org/13221 <- probably too much info, thought it might prove helpful.
[21:46] <sourcemaker> Tallen: Have you a custom kernel or the default kernel?
[21:46] <Tallen> custom kernel
[21:47] <Tallen> should I move to 64-bit Kubuntu? I was hesitent to previous Firefox plugin (Flash) issues.
[21:48] <qolo> yea dont go to 64 bit, simply not worth it
[21:48] <hari> hello
[21:48] <sourcemaker> Tallen: do you have HIGHMEM Support build in your kernel?
[21:48] <BluesKaj> Tallen, i'm using 64 bit , and FF works fine , just make sure you have ia32-libs installed
[21:49] <Tallen> sourcemaker: ah, <shrug> no idea. its stock kernel. GRUB switch ?
[21:49] <sourcemaker> Tallen: post your .config... if you have a custom kernel
[21:49] <Tallen> ah I dont have a custom kernel. No custom kernel, stock kernel.
[21:50] <hari> I got some strange problem after updating to 7.10 the CD drive is being scanned endlessly and i get some "device mapper" error in my virtual consoles, can some one help me?
[21:52] <Tallen> sourcemaker: so are you saying for me to get all 4GB ram visible I need a custom kernel? I was under the impression that Ubuntu enabled that option by default. Not true ?
[21:52] <sourcemaker> Tallen: No... that's not required!
[21:53] <sourcemaker> Tallen: Ubuntu has enabled HIGHMEM in the default configuration
[21:53] <david__> anyone know how to get wireless WMP54G linksys card to weork on kubuntu 7.10?
[21:53] <Tallen> sourcemaker: I figured it must in order for me to see more than 900MB of ram.
[21:54] <david__> got my graphics card working woot!
[21:54] <Tallen> Anyone else here running 4GB of RAM?
[21:54] <david__> i wish!
[21:54] <Zealot87> so i installed compiz fusion, and it lets me change the effects but none of them work...can anyone help?
[21:55] <g2g591> zealot87: run compiz --replace to start compiz fusion
[21:56] <david__> been trying for two days to get my wirless to work can someone plz help me!
[21:57] <Zealot87> g2g591: what do i do about that silly green dot in the corner
[21:58] <g2g591> zealot87: hmm never had that happen before, im not sure
[21:58] <david__> been trying for two days to get my wirless to work can someone plz help me!
[21:58] <jpatrick> !patience | david__
[21:58] <ubotu> david__: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[21:59] <Zealot87> g2g591: it says its an adept notifier
[21:59] <Lynoure> Zealot87: it sometimes shows there, Adept notifier gets overactive and wants to show you all is well. usually goes away on its own
[21:59] <thomas_> Hi all !
[21:59] <david__> just asking
[21:59] <Zealot87> Lynoure: ok, it wouldnt let me close it though...so i moved it to an unused workspace :P
[22:00] <thomas_> Can somebode assist me with KGpg and Kmail ?
[22:01] <slow-motion> re
[22:02] <Lynoure> Zealot87: where did you have it? usually it's just in the tray...
[22:02] <thomas_> OK, I modified "hompage" floder in KGpg to one in my home directory e.g. "PGP", now I can't get it change againg to what it shout be as a hidden thing called ".gnupg" What can I do ?
[22:02] <Topsun> david__: what have you investigated so far?
[22:02] <david__> everything i know to do
[22:02] <Topsun> then do it :)
[22:03] <david__> first time linux user sry
[22:03] <Topsun> have you tried searching the internet preverably the ubuntu wiki?
[22:03] <david__> i dont know wat to do or i wouldnt be asking
[22:03] <Lynoure> thomas_: What happens when you try to change it back?
[22:04] <Dr_willis> !wireless
[22:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[22:04] <david__> tried ndiswrapper dint work
[22:04]  * Dr_willis is glad he dosent do wireless ...
[22:04] <Dr_willis> Wireless can range from Trivial to do.. to impossible. :( dependng on the chipset
[22:05] <thomas_> I tryied to modify it, but does not allow it because it's covered by "root" rights, I fully de-installed it including restart of my box
[22:06] <david__> my system is detecting the network but fails to connect
[22:06] <thomas_> Of course re-installation again following !
[22:07] <Lynoure> thomas_: it being the setting or the directory?
[22:07] <Topsun> david__:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79742.html
[22:07] <sourcemaker> david__: are you using any security related encryption? WEP? WPA / WPA2?
[22:07] <thomas_> I tried to fine a setting file for KGpg which may keep this link - couldn't fine one, same with Kmail because it did not detect the keys created
[22:07] <david__> none
[22:08] <sourcemaker> david__: MAC Filters?
[22:08] <Zealot87> why do my multiple desktops always show 2 more than i have
[22:08] <MS-Suse> when is kde4 gonna be included in a non live distro?
[22:08] <david__> no
[22:09] <sourcemaker> david__: DHCP enabled? on you wlan router? SSID visible? not visible? Static IP?
[22:09] <sourcemaker> david__: which chipset?
[22:09] <michael__> I have a friend who looks like has a hard drive has joined the hard drive choir in the sky.
[22:10] <michael__> I have booted the pc up with my 7.10, but how to I mount his hard drive to see if I can get anything off of it
[22:10] <david__> DHCP enabled dont know the chipset
[22:10] <thomas_> Yes i'm pritty sure a setting or directory is invloved but what can I do ? Any idea how to continue ?
[22:10] <g2g591> MS-Suse: january 11th :)
[22:10] <michael__> (live cd)
[22:10] <MS-Suse> lolz, michael, get off the crack
[22:10] <michael__> lol
[22:10] <Lynoure> thomas_: I just am trying to find _what you are doing now_
[22:11] <david__> i am completely new to all of this stuff so all the lingo i dont understand
[22:11] <thomas_> I'm back in a minute ! Sorry about this !
[22:11] <MS-Suse> g2g591, is it gonna be alpha2 of the 8.4?
[22:12] <michael__> I'm not addicted..........I can quit anytime I want.......................just.....dont want to right now
[22:12] <Lynoure> thomas_: There is the physical directory, ~/.gnupg  and the setting in kgpg -> GnuPG Settings -> Home location. Which are you changing?
[22:12] <g2g591> MS-Suse: i think, but, for sure, you can install rc 2 in Gutsy and Hardy alpha 1
[22:13] <Zealot87> Lynoure: the multidesktops are in my try but they show too mnay
[22:13] <Zealot87> in fact they show double what i have
[22:14] <MS-Suse> g2g591, i tried to install it a while ago, it didnt work out for me. so im just waiting for it to be included in a distro, thanks
[22:14] <thomas_> Hi, back again - I changed the settings
[22:14] <michael__> hey what is "remote share (unionfs)"
[22:14] <Lynoure> Zealot87: pager shows all that you have, even if you don't have anything on them...
[22:14] <g2g591> MS-Suse: some time during hardy development they will make an installable kde 4 version
[22:14] <michael__> what does that mean
[22:15] <Zealot87> Lynoure, i just configured it to have 4 desktops, the pager shows 8, it doesnt always switch correctly too, the highlighted one varies, and the four on the bottom that i dont want only sometimes work and they shouldnt even be there!
[22:15] <michael__> I get that will to access what I think is my hard drive VIA Live CD
[22:15] <g2g591> michael_:it means someone is shareing a folder using unionfs
[22:16] <g2g591> michael_:no its not your hard drive
[22:16] <Lynoure> Zealot87: and you are not using compiz?
[22:16] <michael__> oh
[22:16] <michael__> how do I get to the drive?
[22:16] <g2g591> michael_:double click on it?
[22:16] <thomas_> What I've done in shrt: installed Kontact, arranged my account and my identities, installed KGpg, tried to imort my existing keys from my backup
[22:16] <michael__> "access denied"
[22:16] <Lynoure> Zealot87: if you are not, you could try removing pager and adding it again.
[22:17] <michael__> I'm on a Live CD
[22:17] <michael__> and that union fs thing is the only drive I see
[22:17] <thomas_> It didn't work to import the keys !
[22:18] <Lynoure> thomas_: Usually there are quite tight permissions on your private key, check those first.
[22:18] <thomas_> becuae of the ~/.gnupg directory rights which are owned by root
[22:18] <g2g591> michael_:well if you go to system > qtparted, kde will want to mount your hard drive partations
[22:19] <Zealot87> Lynoure: it still shows four when i ask for two, and 8 when i ask for four
[22:19] <Zealot87> and the desktop cube with compiz only shows two sides :( and the 3rd and 4th side dont work when i ask for 2
[22:19] <michael__> you think I can save my hopfully not lost data?
[22:19] <Topsun> thomas_: chown -R username: ~/.gnupg
[22:19] <Lynoure> Zealot87: I asked about compiz because there are some known pager problems, and this could be one...
[22:20] <Topsun> thomas_: as root
[22:20] <Lynoure> Zealot87: I don't support compiz at the moment, so someone else could help you better
[22:20] <Zealot87> hahaha, well that would explain it
[22:21] <thomas_> I tried to imort as standrad user
[22:23] <michael__> crap
[22:23] <michael__> can anyone show me how to mount a hard drive using a Live CD?
[22:24] <Topsun> e.g. mount /dev/... /mnt
[22:24] <thomas_> Does anybody know whether whatright should be ther e (~/.gnupg) when creating this directory ?
[22:25] <the-erm> thomas_: that makes no sense ... try rephrasing your question? do you mean perms?
[22:25] <Lynoure> thomas_: I have full permissions for the owner, and nothing for anyone else
[22:25] <hyper_ch> hiho, how do I get KDE with hardy? I just installed it but only get kde 3.5.8
[22:25] <thomas_> Yes, perms !
[22:26] <the-erm> Then 700 like Lynoure said would be ok.
[22:26] <stdin> hyper_ch: hardy questions only in #ubuntu+1
[22:26] <hyper_ch> stdin: it's a "K" question and not a "Gnome" one
[22:26] <thomas_> Which permissions should be there originally for ~/.gnupg ) when creating this directory
[22:27] <stdin> hyper_ch: so? hardy isn'y released yet so there is no support for it in here, #ubuntu+1 is not DE dependant
[22:28] <stdin> thomas_: 700
[22:29] <Zealot87> what is the "super" key?
[22:29] <thomas_> 700, right, this is not handy jet for because I'm a TUX beginner
[22:30] <Zealot87> nvm
[22:30] <Lynoure> thomas_: chmod 700 ~/.gnupg
[22:30] <Topsun> thomas_: it's ok if you are the owner of that directory
[22:30] <stdin> 700 looks is read/write/execute for owner and nothing for all others,  drwx------
[22:31] <stdin> s/is/like/
[22:32] <Lynoure> thomas_: I hope it helped, I gotta sleep now.
[22:33] <beefjerky> dr_willis: you there?
[22:34] <beefjerky> maybe someone can help me... I've been having trouble with cd/dvd drive.  Upon booting in Recovery Mode, I see the message "/dev/hdc: mount: unable to mount, you must specify a filesystem type
[22:34] <beefjerky> I can't even boot from .iso!
[22:35] <stdin> what's the line for /dev/hdc say in /etc/fstab ?
[22:35] <Tilllinux> heya there. I want to know how to install a KDE theme for kde apps, but I'm not using Kubuntu, but Ubuntu.
[22:35] <thomas_> Thanks. I changed this to become the owner but this doesn't solve the problem because I can't change settings to this directory.
[22:35]  * Dr_willis wakes up
[22:36] <Dr_willis> beefjerky,  ivve never seen ubuntu boot from a .iso file.
[22:36] <michael__> mount /dev/hdb1/mnt    <----   Does that look right?  I tried hdb1 & hdb2 with no sucess
[22:36] <michael__> what am I doing wrong?
[22:36] <Dr_willis> michael__,  totally wrong...
[22:36] <Topsun> thomas_: use sudo
[22:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[22:36] <michael__> sweet
[22:36] <michael__> lol
[22:36] <stdin> michael__: and put a space before /mnt
[22:36] <Dr_willis> michael__,  sudo mount /dev/DEVICE /media/MOUNTPOINTTHAT_MUSTEXIST
[22:37] <michael__> this is off a live cd
[22:37] <Dr_willis> with whatever options are needed
[22:37] <Dr_willis> How to mount drives. A Linux Fundamental. :)
[22:37] <thomas_> I just tried again, KGpg does not allow me to specify ~/.gnupg for my settings as it was adjusted at the beginning
[22:37] <michael__> I have no idea what the address is for the one hard drive
[22:37] <Dr_willis> michael__,  use 'sudo fdisk -l' to see what disks/fileystems are there.
[22:38] <michael__> ok
[22:38] <beefjerky> dr_willis: i meant i can't boot from a linux live cd
[22:38] <weedar_> After opening my laptop-lid my mouse-pointer is invisible - any ideas what I can do?
[22:38] <Dr_willis> beefjerky,  check the cd? what files are on it? if you have a single .iso file - you burnt it wrong.
[22:39] <Dr_willis> beefjerky,  have you booted any other livd cd's or bootable cd's ? Your bios is set to boot from cd?
[22:39] <michael__> I just get the command prompt again
[22:39] <beefjerky> dr_willis: i'm using the same dvd i've used many times before, plus two Gutsy cds from Canonical
[22:39] <thomas_> OK, I will try to do it at the command line but this will take time tostudy the man pages first. Tschau and Thanks to everybody trying to help.
[22:39] <beefjerky> dr_willis: cd-rom is #1 in BIOS
[22:39] <Dr_willis> beefjerky,  so what does it actually do then? dont even try to boot? no grub? or boots and fails?
[22:40] <beefjerky> dr_willis: it detects there is a disc (black screen with a little blinking line for a while), then boots to grub
[22:40] <Tilllinux> How would you install kde themes (e.g. .kth) for use with kde applications under gnome
[22:40] <beefjerky> dr_willis: dmesg is giving me weird errors
[22:40] <Dr_willis> Tilllinux,  techinicially a kde 'theme' is just a file that defines what other 'parts' of the kde  decorations to use.
[22:41] <Dr_willis> ie: window decoration, widgets, colors, icons.
[22:41] <beefjerky> nosrednaekim was trying to help me last night, said there was a hardware/drivers issue... but the drive worked in Feisty
[22:41] <Dr_willis> You would need to also install the other parts of the theme.
[22:41] <phaedral__> any reason to prefer one flavor of ubuntu over any other if I'm installing to laptop?
[22:41] <Dr_willis> I wonder if installing any kde apps - would also install the kde conttrol center.
[22:41] <phaedral__> I've always been more a K guy than gnome...
[22:42] <Dr_willis> phaedral__,  if you have low specs.. You may want to use xubuntu.
[22:42] <beefjerky> Dr_willis: dmesg |tail output --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49905/
[22:42] <phaedral__> no, specs are fine, even had gnome version running fine last week
[22:42] <beefjerky> dr_willis: tray is *not* open
[22:42] <Dr_willis> beefjerky,  goofy.. :) Not sure about that.
[22:43] <beefjerky> dr_willis: i can't mount manually, either - "mount: you must specify a filesystem type"
[22:43] <Dr_willis> beefjerky,  use -t iso9660 for that
[22:43] <beefjerky> dr_willis: ok, so what would the full command be (with disc in tray)?
[22:44] <Tilllinux> Dr_willis: I'm gonna install the kdm theme manager and look what happens ;)
[22:48] <thomas_> Hi - bacj again, Doe anybody knows where to adjust kmail looking for my KGpg keys created ?
[22:49] <Tilllinux> what's the command to start the kdm theme manager?
[22:49] <jpatrick> Tilllinux: /etc/init.d kdm start
[22:49] <beefjerky> tillinux: its in Kcontrol.  Alt+f2 > kcontrol
[22:49] <jpatrick> Tilllinux: ah sorry, misread
[22:50] <beefjerky> what's the proper mount point for a cd-rom?
[22:51] <phaedral__> dunno if any kubuntu devel are listening, but the documentation page is awol
[22:51] <jpatrick> phaedral__: awol?
[22:51] <phaedral__> I'm getting "Object not found" when browsing to http://www.kubuntu.org/documentation.php
[22:52] <jpatrick> phaedral__: Kmenu -> Help
[22:52] <beefjerky> try: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/index.php
[22:52] <HS^> hello, my USB mouse (and media player) is only seen if i plug it in BEFORE i boot.
[22:52] <jpatrick> should be all there
[22:52] <HS^> what could be the problem?
[22:53] <phaedral__> sorry, connection dropped
[22:53] <phaedral__> "Object not found" is the error I get when trying to get to the doc page
[22:54] <jpatrick> phaedral__: the doc page is http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/index.php
[22:54] <phaedral__> then someone needs to update http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu
[22:54] <phaedral__> :)
[22:55]  * jpatrick updates
[22:56] <jpatrick> phaedral__: done
[22:57] <phaedral__> uh, I was using the "Documentation" tab up by the search box; that's where I got the "Object not found"
[22:57] <phaedral__> but, dang, talk about _service_
[22:57] <jpatrick> phaedral__: okay, I'll inform the webmaster and have that fixed asap
[22:58] <phaedral__> didn't think that was likely to be wiki-user accessible
[22:59] <savageone> does the iso for mythbuntu have the newest ubuntu?
[22:59] <savageone> or is it a previous release
[23:00] <savageone> wrong window sorry
[23:02] <Tilllinux> !theme
[23:02] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[23:02] <Tilllinux> !changethemes
[23:02] <ubotu> To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubotu xfce-themes
[23:03] <jpatrick> phaedral__: webmaster informed
[23:03] <phaedral__> you rock
[23:03] <MaskOfSanity> hi
[23:04] <MaskOfSanity> how can i install a cpu usage view and an IP view on the desktop?
[23:04] <michael__>     #offtopic
[23:13] <lorddarkpat> Help, bang me
[23:14] <weedar_> The flash install-issue in the topic, is that for Kubuntu Gutsy, or..?
[23:15] <weedar_> lorddarkpat: I don't think irc is the best way to get laid
[23:15] <fdoving> all releases. as flash is the broken part, ie adobe.
[23:16] <weedar_> fdoving: thanks for clearing that up :)
[23:18] <padey> although you can just install firefox
[23:19] <fdoving> the installer doesn't work, still.
[23:19] <weedar_> I have flash working here, but I think I might have upgraded it from feisty. I'd like to do a reinstall, but not if flash doesn't work
[23:20] <padey> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:20] <fdoving> is flashplugin-nonfree upgraded with the new md5sums?
[23:21] <padey> no idea, but it works :P
[23:21] <padey> version 9.0.48
[23:22] <padey> can't get it to work with konqueror though :(
[23:24] <paperfunk> ello
[23:24] <paperfunk> how do you connect another computer through a crossover cable with kubuntu
[23:25] <paperfunk> i have my kubuntu box hooked up to the net and want to hook it to an xp box using crossover
[23:25] <paperfunk> i thought there were no configuration changes to be made to do that
[23:26] <paperfunk> in windows at least you don't
[23:26] <paperfunk> is this thing on?
[23:26] <paperfunk> heh
[23:26] <weedar_> paperfunk: You have to have a static IP-address if you use a crossover-cable
[23:27] <paperfunk> um, my internet'x ip is dynamic
[23:27] <paperfunk> and i know that the net address doesnt have to be static
[23:27] <paperfunk> because i've done this many times before, without problems until i got a linux box involved
[23:27] <weedar_> paperfunk: but all you're connecting is your linux and windows machine, right? None of them are connected to the Internet, or?
[23:27] <paperfunk> my linux is on the net
[23:28] <paperfunk> and i want to share its connection with my xp box
[23:28] <paperfunk> in windows you just click on the outside ethernet connection and allow other network computers to connect using the device
[23:28] <bascule> heh, different story in linux
[23:29] <weedar_> paperfunk: Ah, then I understand :)
[23:29] <jughead> hello; I just upgraded my laptop to kubuntu gutsy; is it very easy to ditch Dolphin or make konq the default file manager?  I prefer the detailed list view and every time I change the settings in DOlphin they don't stick, and there's no sort by fle type option.
[23:29] <weedar_> I setup something similar years ago, it wasn't much work, but you did have to know what to change/add
[23:30] <weedar_> paperfunk: I actually think I used this page. It's a bit dated but should work: http://users.telenet.be/mydotcom/howto/lanconnect/router/linux.htm
[23:33] <Dragnslcr> jughead- you can go to Settings -> Configure to set the default view mode
[23:37] <jughead> thanks Dragnslcr - any idea how to sort by file type?
[23:39] <Dragnslcr> Not offhand
[23:40] <BluesKaj> jughead, try this , open konqueror>settings>configure konqueror>File Associations>Inode>System Directory>Application Prefernce Order , move Konqueror to the top , click apply and ok
[23:40] <BluesKaj> jughead , if you need Dolphin , it's still in the kicker
[23:41] <magick211> Hello all
[23:41] <magick211> I have a problem maybe someone can help me with
[23:41] <the-erm> ok
[23:42] <BluesKaj> !ask | magick211
[23:42] <ubotu> magick211: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[23:43] <TimS> BluesKaj: When I install a second harddrive, should I have it set to automaticaly mount?
[23:43] <magick211> Ok here is the deal I was in the process of patching madwifi drivers and my battery died in the process, now when i try to patch i get a error, i deleted the source and patch and redownloaded it but im geting the same error now
[23:43] <TimS> I would be using it to hold all of my videos, music and pictures probably
[23:43] <the-erm> TimS: if you want to use it.
[23:44] <magick211> wtf half my message didnt go trough
[23:44] <TimS> Ok
[23:44] <the-erm> If it's a hard drive that is physically in your machine, mount it in fstab whenever you boot.
[23:44] <the-erm> If it's a usb drive, just let kde take care of it.
[23:45] <TimS> It will be in my machine
[23:45] <TimS> Will Kubuntu auto-detect it or do i need to set it up to detect it?
[23:45] <the-erm> I think you might have to edit your /etc/fstab
[23:45] <TimS> Okay
[23:45] <the-erm> It's been along time since I added a hard drive.
[23:45] <TimS>  Well, Ill find out later, thanks alot, bye all
[23:46] <the-erm> magick211: "some error" is pretty vague.
[23:46] <BluesKaj> TimS , it should show up the on the next boot-up
[23:48] <the-erm> The question is if it's not formatted where would it mount it in /media ??
[23:49] <the-erm> I set mine up to mount on /media/backup .. for obvious reasions.
[23:51] <VaLeNTiNO_TRoK_T> i have linux!!!!!!!!


[00:40] <ubuntuapps> hello? anyone here?
[00:49] <GuidoPallemans> better go to #ubuntu-devel
[00:51] <yangmeat> hello, where I find some diagram for application platform for ubuntu phone? not desktop.
[00:53] <yangmeat> I had already found ubuntu platform diagram in developer.ubuntu.com
[00:54] <yangmeat> but I think ubuntu phone provide developing way for QML and html5.
[00:54] <yangmeat> it's not true??
[00:57] <ubuntuapps> how do i promote an app i published on ubuntu software center?
[01:22] <stqn> ubuntuapps: http://askubuntu.com/a/103407 maybe
[01:32] <ubuntuapps> ill check that out
[04:40] <harriz> hello anybody in here?
[18:21] <ahayzen> Hi can i ask questions relating to GLADE in here? Thanks
[18:37] <qwertzui11> ahayzen: dont ask to ask
[18:37] <ahayzen> qwertzui11, okies
[18:37] <qwertzui11> ;-)
[18:39] <ahayzen> Hi, In GLADE when I add a 'related action' to a button it then becomes disabled in the viewer, even though sensitive is set to True. I'm sure I'm just doing it wrong. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance
[18:53] <stqn> hi
[20:35] <wfire> well hello everyone
[20:36] <wfire> I just found out that the Ubuntu mobile is using QML
[20:36] <wfire> I am super excited to find this out
[20:39] <wfire> I haven't been excited for much in a long time
[20:39] <wfire> I can feel excitement for this
[20:39] <wfire> anyone around?
[20:47] <stqn> yeah, but I’m afraid I don’t know what you’re talking about :)
[20:47] <JanC> wfire: sometimes  ;)
[20:47] <wfire> QML is a language one can use in QTCreator
[20:48] <JanC> stqn: Ubuntu Phone uses QML which is a GUI design language based on Qt
[20:48] <stqn> ok…
[20:48] <wfire> It is my favorite, I am not a programmer by trade, so I taught myself QML
[20:48] <wfire> I don't use the GUI side though
[20:48] <wfire> I type it all out
[20:49] <stqn> I’ve used the GUI editor of Qt Creator, but haven’t seen this QML thing.
[20:49] <JanC> wfire: you can also contribute to Ubuntu Phone then, if you want
[20:49] <wfire> yeah that is what I am hoping to do
[20:49] <wfire> I was a Qt Ambassador when Nokia had Qt
[20:50] <wfire> but then everything fell apart
[20:50] <wfire> I just learned that Ubuntu is using it so I looked up the app dev stuff online and found this channel
[20:50] <wfire> thought I would pop in and say hi
[20:51] <wfire> I will be installing Qt Creator tonight again and start having some fun
[20:52] <wfire> so being new to the Ubuntu phone scene, are there any phones running the OS yet?
[20:54] <JanC> wfire: not released with it
[20:55] <JanC> go to #ubuntu-phone if you want more info
[20:55] <JanC> but AFAIK they use the latest Google Android phone for prototyping
[20:56] <JanC> as it's not locked down
[20:57] <stqn> still no-one with experience on releasing closed-source apps for the USC?
[21:00] <wfire> USC? what is USC?
[21:01] <wfire> well I am going to get an app ready to release as fast as I can then
[21:01] <wfire> latest google android phone huh
[21:01] <stqn> ubuntu software center
[21:01] <wfire> oh
[21:02] <wfire> You will have to excuse me, I am not a big linux user.  in fact I am going to have to install it just to get the Ubuntu Qt-Components
[21:02] <wfire> everything I have is windows
[21:02] <stqn> I’m sorry ;)
[21:03] <wfire> which I can get qt creator but I am not sure how the qt-components would install
[21:03] <wfire> stqn, hahaha
[21:03] <wfire> I don't mind, I never claimed to be awesome at anything
[21:03] <wfire> in my life
[21:03] <wfire> but I would love to keep QML growing
[21:41] <JanC> stqn: there are several closed source apps in USC, so I'm sure some people have experience...  ;)
[21:46] <stqn> yeah, maybe I should contact the developers
[21:47] <stqn> … right now I’m considering installing ubuntu 12.04 64 bit, ubuntu 12.10 64 bit, and using those to build for 64 and 32 bit… Or installing the 32
[21:47] <stqn> oops
[21:47] <stqn> or installing and building only for 32 bit
[21:48] <stqn> I wish it worked under virtualbox, but it doesn’t
[21:49] <stqn> I also tried vmware but it’s even worse (no 3D accel)
[21:49] <wfire> I wish I just knew what was in the ubuntu qt components
[21:50] <wfire> oh well I will start playing around soon
[21:53] <wfire> stqn, so do you run windows as well?
[22:03] <stqn> no, Arch linux and xubuntu 12.04


 Hello! When I build Qt5Core from Testing for i386, I get this `file` info:
[14:39] <lubot5> ```libQt5Core.so.5.10.1: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, BuildID[sha1]=..., for GNU/Linux 3.17.0, stripped```
 (Photo, 1183x688) https://i.imgur.com/I9tTGVE.jpg Compare to other libraries
 I have an older kernel, so the linker does not use this library, and all the Qt software fails
 This didn't happen before, any change that could trigger this?
 @ilyaishere, See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=895718
 The previous LTS release has kernel 4.4 (without HWE updates) and I think this is the minimum kernel version we should support in Cosmic.
 So, upstream Qt now limits to 3.17...
 That's sad, it cuts a huge percentage of phones
[15:14] <bshah> o_O
 @ilyaishere, Unless you build it without getentropy support.
 > We can build Qt without the “getentropy” feature and that would lower the
[15:17] <lubot5> > required kernel version to 3.16:
[15:17] <lubot5> > https://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/tree/src/corelib/global/minimum-linux_p.h#n64
 I seem to have missed a number of version bumps
 2 month ago I had no issues using 3.10
 I guess, some "renameat" config also has to be disabled...
 If I disable those two, will it break applications?
[15:20] <lubot5> * ilyaishere searches for a Halium device with kernel >= 3.17
 My device has kernel 3.18, but it's an armhf device.
 You're on the edge ;)
 They actually disabled it on Android: http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/commit/src/corelib/io/qfilesystemengine_unix.cpp?id=8eb3944dac81b8c51d7bac7784204d457551b50c
 Can't yet find the fallback they use
 It looks like they redefine libc functions; if they can't do so, libc functions are used instead
 I think we'll have to fork the packaging for Halium
 But it seems like they enable it anyway if host kernel supports it: http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/tree/src/corelib/io/qfilesystemengine_unix.cpp#n109
[15:57] <bshah> Probably question(s) for #qt
 (so also a patch)
 Yeah...
[15:57] <bshah> also it seems, only Debian is affected? I didn't hit this with 3.10 kernel and Ubuntu + arm?
[15:58] <bshah> [I didn't read bug report fully]
 Well, Ubuntu should be affected as well as long as they haven
 't disabled these syscalls
 Arch is affected FWIW
 @bshah, It doesn't seem to be disabled in the KDE Neon packaging as far as I can see.
 bshah: is build machine kernel newer than 3.16?
 Also, does docker maybe prevent detecting the kernel features? (in case the neon ci uses docker)
[16:10] <bshah> @ilyaishere: to answer your question, that machine would be using 4.4 or 4.8(?) kernel depending on which slave it uses
 Ok. To clarify, the idea right now is that neon rootfs works because the kernel renameat feture is not detected: http://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/commit/src/corelib/io/qfilesystemengine_unix.cpp?id=6eef81ee1c82f934e14d47047d8b6103b8755321
[16:40] <tsimonq2> So, with 5.11.1 being in cosmic-proposed, I'm going to hunt it down a little bit more.
[16:40] <tsimonq2> Otherwise I'm starting the preparation of 5.9.6 for Bionic: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3329
[16:41] <tsimonq2> I plan on doing everything but qtwebengine in that PPA, and once all the packages are updated and we're ready, I'll manually upload to the queue to make it easier to review.
[16:42] <tsimonq2> As I discussed with @mitya57, I'm going to revert the commit changing the internal version to 5.9.6, so we don't have to no-change rebuild rdeps of the private headers.


[11:04] <bac> hey benji you here already?
[11:07] <bac> guess not. will try later
[11:10] <benji> bac: yeah; woke up early so I thought I'd get a head start