[12:12] <karel-jan> yes and if that doesn't work?
[12:12] <terran4000> maki: usplash can change the ubuntu splash image
[12:12] <terran4000> er .. the boot logo splash screen thingy
[12:13] <maki> i dont need this as sistem service
[12:13] <wolferine> then you need to backup a file, and delete, let me look it up
[12:13] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, use the reset or power button on the computer chassis (tower)
[12:13] <Yorokobi> karel-jan, what happens when you run the suggested apt-get commands?
[12:13] <chalcedny> Yorokobi he tried pusshing the power button.. it starts and then doesn't work
[12:13] <karel-jan> nothing
[12:13] <Yorokobi> !paste | karel-jan
[12:14] <ubotu> karel-jan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:14] <Yorokobi> karel-jan, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to ^^^ and give us the link
[12:14] <wolferine> its not the .list
[12:14] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, at what point does it stop working?
[12:14] <wolferine> its the database file synaptic uses
[12:14] <Hrontore> how do i fix blank screen on resume or coming out of hibernation?
[12:14] <Yorokobi> probably true, wolferine
[12:15] <wolferine> but I dont know its name
[12:15] <Yorokobi> !fix adept > Yorokobi
[12:15] <wolferine> i had the same issue
[12:15] <Yorokobi> !fix adept > karel-jan
[12:16] <chalcedny> Yorokobi trying it again to write down the error msg.
[12:16] <Black_Cat> damn... how do i get proper russian encoding in konsole, mc and vimtutor? it shows nonsence, and i can't find place where to fix it; it's not settings->encoding...
[12:17] <wolferine> !fix adept > wolferine
[12:17] <Yorokobi> karel-jan, in case you didn't catch it, ubotu PM'd you a possible fix for your problem to a new tab or window
[12:17] <chalcedny> Invalid System Disk
[12:17] <chalcedny> won't see the keyboard
[12:17] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, is there a floppy disk in the floppy drive?
[12:17] <karel-jan> idd Yorokobi but it doesn't work
[12:17] <karel-jan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13756/
[12:18] <karel-jan> the problem is on the last two or 3 lines I think
[12:18] <karel-jan> but how can I remove that?
[12:18] <Yorokobi> karel-jan, just the last line.
[12:18] <karel-jan> can be
[12:18] <Yorokobi> karel-jan, 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:18] <Yorokobi> '
[12:19] <Yorokobi> karel-jan, and you don't need deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main if you're using feisty
[12:19] <chalcedny> Yorokobi no there is no cd in the drive
[12:20] <chalcedny> it has a floppy drive in the box.. but he wouldn't be using that in forever.
[12:20] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, how about a floppy disk? (3.5" ... most computers don't ship with them now)
[12:20] <karel-jan> ok problem solved thanx
[12:20] <Yorokobi> karel-jan, np
[12:20] <karel-jan> what does kdesu stands for?
[12:21] <Yorokobi> !kdesu > karel-jan
[12:21] <chalcedny> Yorokobi no stuff in drives.
[12:21] <Hrontore> unable to resume after hibernation/ standby, help plz
[12:21] <maki> where can i add a comand that will run on startup
[12:22] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, that error means the BIOS can't find the Master Boot Record on the boot device (probably the hard drive in this case).
[12:22] <Yorokobi> !autostart > maki
[12:22] <karel-jan> ok thanx
[12:22] <karel-jan> I learned something today
[12:22] <karel-jan> thanx
[12:22] <chalcedny> Yorokobi that's bad, right?
[12:22] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, you may be able to use the LiveCD to fix grub ...
[12:22] <Yorokobi> !grub > yorokobi
[12:23] <karel-jan> does someone here have experience with running photoshop on kubuntu?
[12:23] <Yorokobi> !grub > chalcedny
[12:23] <chalcedny> Yorokobi interesting concept.. wonder if we could make a cd with this ancient lappy...?
[12:23] <eilker> !er > eilker
[12:23] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, how did Kubuntu get installed on the desktop?
[12:25] <chalcedny> Yorokobi i don't know.. my son did that
[12:26] <chalcedny> we have the ubuntu  5.0 cd here.. but if it's not booting .. how?
[12:26] <Yorokobi> ah, and he didn't leave the CD for you I bet
[12:26] <chalcedny> we have the ubuntu  5.10 cd here.. but if it's not booting .. how?
[12:26] <chalcedny> 5.10 not 5.0 <g.
[12:27] <chalcedny> Yorokobi my husband has a desktop computer.
[12:27] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, how to get it to boot from the CD is done in the BIOS/CMOS
[12:30] <chalcedny> we pressed del to enter setup, at the Ubuntu menu, says to boot as a live DVD press Enter, normalinstallatioin press Install, enter, to install only the base system, type 'server' enter.
[12:30] <chalcedny> sigh.. laptop isn't where i type best.
[12:31] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, is there a rescue option?
[12:31] <Yorokobi> I haven't seen the 5.10 installer ...
[12:31] <chalcedny> Yorokobi where do i look ? it has 'help' press 1 and advanced installation options.
[12:32] <chalcedny> i am *very* not an expert with these things.
[12:32] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, ah ... it sounds like the Debian-style installer. Type 'linux rescue'
[12:32] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, it may want 'linux rescue boot=/dev/hda1 root=/dev/hda'
[12:32] <lenscape> !xv
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <chalcedny> Yorokobi it's goig to be more difficult .. it won't see the keyboard now.
[12:33] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, is it plugged in tightly? (I have a tendency to kick them out sometimes :?)
[12:36] <chalcedny> Yorokobi i jiggled all the plugs.. don't see any difference with the keyboard. The last line on the monitor is boot: _ and it does not respond to any keypresses.
[12:36] <philphoto> any tricks to playing MP3's using Amarok in Feisty?
[12:36] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, that makes things pretty difficult.
[12:37] <Yorokobi> (to state the obvious)
[12:37] <terran4000> does anyone know a way to get linux to recognize a new laptop cd-rom without having to reboot .... assuming you didn't boot with the cd-rom drive inserted?
[12:37] <chalcedny> Yorokobi would i bring you a simple problem?
[12:37] <philphoto> mount it
[12:38] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, I like simple problems. I can get a sense of accomplishments with those in far less time. :)
[12:38] <kiwi__> Im trying to play music from samba in amarok and it keeps shutting down whenever i choose to play it, what do i need to download in order to fix this?
[12:38] <chalcedny> Yorokobi i may wait until genius son wakes up, but he's been too sick to walk, lately.
[12:38] <terran4000> philphoto: ... no mounting simply doesn't work
[12:39] <terran4000> with my experience so far .. it won't even detect the drive unless I have the drive in the laptop when it boots
[12:39] <chalcedny> Yorokobi the sense of accomplishment is far greater when you help someone with nearly insurmountable problems.
[12:39] <philphoto> dang, I'm out of ideas. doesn't even recognize the drive...
[12:40] <kiwi__> anyone?
[12:40] <philphoto> kiwi__: are you trying to play mp3's?
[12:40] <kiwi__> yeah
[12:40] <terran4000> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[12:40] <kiwi__> from my network
[12:40] <terran4000> or something like that
[12:40] <chalcedny> kiwi__ better music? ;)
[12:40] <philphoto> !mp3
[12:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:40] <philphoto> kiwi__: are you using 7.04?
[12:41] <kiwi__> yea
[12:41] <philphoto> it's a known bug in Feisty.  I wish it would get fixed
[12:42] <chalcedny> Yorokobi thank you very much for all your help.  we really do appreciate you and everyone here.
[12:42] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, you're welcome.
[12:42] <philphoto> you can go into your repositories & enable universe / multiverse to get you acess to the codecs that will allow you to play them.
[12:42] <Yorokobi> Sorry, Chemlawn called :)
[12:43] <phreak_03> Anyone had anyluck getting Beryl to work under Feisty Fawn?
[12:43] <terran4000> phreak_03: worked for me
[12:43] <kiwi__> ok thnx for the help
[12:43] <terran4000> I broke it myself, but yes it works
[12:43] <phreak_03> lol
[12:43] <tmbg> what's a good usenet client similar to Xnews for windows?
[12:44] <terran4000> klibido
[12:44] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, I hope your son gets better soon.
[12:44] <Yorokobi> Ciao, all
[12:44] <Stormzoeker> tmbg: try pan
[12:44] <terran4000> tmbg: klibido also works decently
[12:45] <unix_infidel> anyone here done an feisty alpha to beta upgrade with dist-upgrade and noticed any problems?
[12:45] <BluesKaj> unfortunately I have an onboard ATI IXP soundcard , with a digital out that works in windows but not Kubuntu ...I can't seem to find a fix ...any ideas or suggestions ?
[12:46] <tmbg> Stormzoeker & terran4000 thanks!
[12:46] <tmbg> for some odd reason when I searched synaptic for usenet those didn't pop up
[12:46] <terran4000> unix_infidel: I did one upgrade like that a while ago, it worked out mostly .. though there were a few broken things due to changes in packages/updates/ect
[12:46] <philphoto> <--- hates ATI because of their driver issues
[12:46] <terran4000> tmbg: sudo apt-get install klibido
[12:47] <terran4000> philphoto: agreed ... but once it works it works almost normally :-)
[12:47] <tmbg> terran4000, yeah I found it what I'm saying is when I was searching for usenet tools I only found a couple and not stuff like pan/klibido.
[12:48] <tmbg> I guess I  should have searched for nntp instead of usenet
[12:48] <terran4000> ah, heh ^^ sorry, I must have misread :-)
[12:48] <BluesKaj> yeah , i guess I'm stretching the ATI's envelope by asking the for the digital output to work in edgy :)
[12:48] <philphoto> I have an ATI video card and it's the only thing holding me back from having a screaming fast computer
[12:48] <darryl> iI am trying to install the DHCP server in webmin.  I checked to /var/webmin/miniserver.error and theis is the error ---No Ipv4 or Ipsec zone--- how do I fix this?
[12:49] <terran4000> my desktop have a ATI x1900 ... works perfectly fine in linux. I dont' game though
[12:49] <vnchelper> Can someone explain to me how I can set up a VNC server on my machine (in another locaton) using SSH?
[12:49] <vnchelper> Or some other remote desktop solution?
[12:50] <tmbg> darryl, isn't webmin no longer supported?
[12:50] <darryl> I do not know
[12:51] <Powerking89670> anyone have a list of networking commands
[12:51] <Powerking89670> for example ipconfig in Windows shows Ip
[12:51] <Powerking89670> any equivilents?
[12:51] <vnchelper> ifconfig powerking
[12:51] <darryl> Is there another program that I can use
[12:51] <vnchelper> Webmin is no longer supported
[12:51] <kalorin`> I'm still here
[12:51] <kalorin`> ?
[12:51] <kalorin`> interesting
[12:51] <Powerking89670> thank you
[12:53] <darryl> If Webmin is no longer supported, then what is out there that I can use like Webmin?
[12:55] <whopper_> hi
[12:55] <unix_infidel> terran4000: thanks for your input, i'll hold off.
[12:55] <whopper_> why does it happen when i open my system and boot it, the screen resolution is at the biggest setting without my consent?
[12:55] <whopper_> (sometimes)
[12:55] <whopper_> smallest setting*
[12:56] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> whopper_: cos roots viodeo settings are set to that
[12:56] <vnchelper> Is there anything I can use aside from VNC to remotely access my gui?
[12:56] <whopper_> oh
[12:56] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> whopper_: you can change that by changing root users display size
[12:56] <whopper_> ok
[12:56] <whopper_> how?
[12:56] <terran4000> unix_infidel: :-) no prob
[12:56] <cpk1> whopper_: you should be able to change the terminal resolution in the menu.lst
[12:56] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> kcontrol somewhere
[12:56] <unix_infidel> terran4000: i'm really anxious about the next release
[12:57] <unix_infidel> honeslty because i've been using windows mostly, and i dont wanna setup dapper only to have fiesty release a week later.
[12:57] <cpk1> you mean setup edgy? =P
[12:57] <unix_infidel> i've been hearing of some serious problems with edgy.
[12:57] <whopper_> hmm
[12:57] <whopper_> i dont use edgy myself
[12:57] <terran4000> unix_infidel: feisty isn't really any special when it comes to graphic drivers. Both Feisty and Edgy have good enough drivers in their repo's to use.
[12:57] <unix_infidel> so i've basically skipped upgrading to that release, and since then i've wiped my hd.
[12:57] <BluesKaj> the latest fiesty isn't the same as the upcoming release tho, is it ?
[12:57] <cpk1> I havent had a single problem with dapper edgy or fiesty
[12:57] <tmbg> unix_infidel, edgy is mostly cool for me.
[12:58] <unix_infidel> well i'm not talking about graphics drivers, i'm not going to be using much of anything gpu intensive.
[12:58] <terran4000> edgy works very well for me :-)
[12:58] <tmbg> the nvidia driver is a little flaky w/ the color depth but stability is good
[12:58] <BluesKaj> take a bow cpk1
[12:58] <unix_infidel> tmbg: right, i dont have hours to play with "mostly cool" it has to work within a few hours or its gone.
[12:58] <unix_infidel> and by "work" i mean setup to where i like it and configured ready to go.
[12:58] <tmbg> the only issue I've had really was the color depth.
[12:58] <cpk1> unix_infidel: the only thing I had to do with edgy was use vesa until I could get the restricted video drivers installed
[12:59] <cpk1> which means I had to use vesa for all of 5 minutes
[12:59] <tmbg> everything else has all been rather straightforward.
[12:59] <tmbg> I haven't messed with the printer stuff yet, but that's a tough one, because I think my printer is actually broken. the printer itself.
[12:59] <darryl> is there an ubuntu server administration program to manage my servers?
[12:59] <unix_infidel> darryl: what do you want to administrate?
[01:00] <unix_infidel> cpk1: i'll be using default radeon drivers.
[01:00] <darryl> my ubuntu servers -- newb
[01:00] <unix_infidel> like i said, i run flux with a basic theme and basically no gpu intensive widgets.
[01:00] <unix_infidel> all in all my used disk space will be less than a 1.5gb
[01:00] <whopper_> thanks guys
[01:01] <cpk1> my root partition is bigger than that
[01:01] <cpk1> =P
[01:01] <darryl> I am having a difficult time understanding how to set up my server.  Is  there a guide?
[01:01] <unix_infidel> cpk1: well i'll be creating a partition about 5gb for root and the rest storage.
[01:02] <unix_infidel> i've never had an install go over 5gb.
[01:03] <Stormzoeker> darryl: take a look at http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[01:03] <darryl> Thank You Stormzoeker
[01:04] <jarle> is there a non-gui version of the kubuntu update tool? No gui seems to be opened here...
[01:04] <sayers> I got a fresh install of ubuntu++; Thankfully it worked :)
[01:06] <jarle> When I select "Version Upgrade" form adept manager I get a lot of output to stdout, but I am not able to control the program...
[01:06] <jxs67> hello
[01:07] <sayers> Hello
[01:07] <PhinnFort> !hi | jxs67
[01:07] <ubotu> jxs67: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:07] <jxs67> hi
[01:07] <Stormzoeker> jxs67 hello ;)
[01:07] <sayers> PhinnFort: arent you Mr/s cool
[01:07] <sayers> :P
[01:07] <PhinnFort> sayers: no, i'm Martin
[01:08] <PhinnFort> whatever
[01:08] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:08] <sayers> :{
[01:08] <DarphBobo> sayers, dude wher ur mouth?? i can c the mustache
[01:08] <jxs67> ??
[01:08] <PhinnFort> :S?
[01:08] <sayers> :}O
[01:09] <sayers> hehe
[01:09] <sayers> I like this feisty a lot
[01:09] <PhinnFort> are you a feisty guy?
[01:09] <jxs67> yer
[01:09] <jxs67> lol
[01:09] <sayers> Just switched today
[01:10] <sayers> Its not Fiesty
[01:10] <PhinnFort> feisty
[01:11] <cpk1> !away | mluser-work
[01:11] <ubotu> mluser-work: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[01:11] <sayers> 1.  full of animation, energy, or courage; spirited; spunky; plucky: The champion is faced with a feisty challenger. [01:12] <sayers> PhinnFort: they are spelt differnt
[01:12] <PhinnFort> who?
[01:13] <PhinnFort> !feisty
[01:13] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:13] <sayers> Yes I know that...
[01:13] <sayers> FIESTY is not feisty . feisty is the new distro upgrade. Fiesty is wanting to fight
[01:14] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> sayers: sounds like something you dowith no pants
[01:14] <PhinnFort> sayers: fiesty is the new distro, and wanting to fight
[01:14] <PhinnFort> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/feisty
[01:14] <PhinnFort> *feisty
[01:14] <PhinnFort> typing too fast too late;)
[01:15] <PhinnFort> !feisty
[01:15] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:15] <sayers> Check dictionary...
[01:15] <PhinnFort> sayers: i just linked to wiktionary
[01:15] <sayers> PhinnFort: I before E , except after C
[01:15] <sketchb0x> hey ive built a media server that im going to be accessing remotely via vnc, anyone got any good ideas on whats the best window manager for this?
[01:15] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> oh boy english class
[01:15] <PhinnFort> sayers: go whine to the wiktionary people, not me
[01:16] <sketchb0x> lightweight yet stable and can play my music/video?
[01:16] <PhinnFort> sketchb0x: xfce?
[01:16] <PhinnFort> xubuntu
[01:16] <PhinnFort> sketchb0x: or just TWM with MythTV
[01:17] <sayers> Use the built in terminal :)
[01:17] <PhinnFort> sayers: did you check the wiktionary link? no fiesty, though
[01:17] <linescanner> hi guys.  Just trying to install kubuntu 7.04 beta and get /bin/sh can't access tty.  Now what ???
[01:17] <sayers> did you check the DICTIONARY
[01:17] <PhinnFort> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/feisty
[01:17] <PhinnFort> yeah
[01:17] <linescanner> 6.10 works fine
[01:17] <PhinnFort> http://dictionary.reference.com/cite.html?qh=feisty&ia=luna
[01:18] <sayers> PhinnFort: Then you win :)
[01:18] <PhinnFort> :P
[01:18] <PhinnFort> i'm not even a native inglirs speaker
[01:18] <PhinnFort> linescanner: where do you get that?
[01:18] <Ace2016> Hi all
[01:19] <PhinnFort> hi
[01:19] <PhinnFort> !hi | Ace2016
[01:19] <ubotu> Ace2016: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:19] <sketchb0x> i was under the impression mythtv was for video only, i will be playing mostly music and some video.
[01:19] <linescanner> PhinnFort after the initial splash screen
[01:19] <PhinnFort> sketchb0x: mythtv is for multimedia computers connected to tv's, mainly
[01:19] <Ace2016> hi PhinnFort
[01:19] <sinpath> hey
[01:20] <Ace2016> hi sinpath
[01:20] <PhinnFort> linescanner: dunno what your problem is, then
[01:20] <sinpath>  whats going on?
[01:20] <Ace2016> Does anyone know how to create a custom option in grub which will get me to the command line login, no xserver+kdm being started, a minimal login session
[01:20] <terran4000> sinpath: the world is turning into binary and being compiled against it's will.
[01:21] <linescanner> PhinnFort: :(
[01:21] <sinpath> oh crap  then im out of luck
[01:21] <PhinnFort> terran4000: i think you're wrong
[01:21] <PhinnFort> it's getting reverse engineered
[01:21] <PhinnFort> disassembled, you might say
[01:22] <sayers> I wonder if someone made a .sh for a computer to run a days of downloading / processes and turns off just for the fun of it
[01:22] <PhinnFort> sayers: i'm looking into making my computer turn off automatically after playing my good-night amarok playlist, does that count?
 that'd be the option that's automatically installed called (failsafe)
[01:23] <sayers> Not really
[01:23] <MadMatt> how do I upgrade to feisty?
[01:23] <PhinnFort> sayers: it turns on automatically to play my good morning playlist too
[01:23] <PhinnFort> MadMatt: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[01:23] <sinpath> wiw thats intresting
[01:23] <PhinnFort> MadMatt: be aware of broken stuff, though
[01:23] <MadMatt> thanks PhinnFort
[01:23] <PhinnFort> np
[01:23] <MadMatt> is it bad?
[01:24] <PhinnFort> MadMatt: i use it
[01:24] <PhinnFort> it's not that bad
[01:24] <Ace2016> kalorin`: that asks me to press ctrl+D for maintainance, doesn't that need root access? i want to just play games, since i use xgl with kdm
[01:25] <MadMatt> probably going to have hard time with video card drivers
[01:26] <sinpath> can any one tell me the comand line to mount a windows drive?
[01:27] <PhinnFort> !windows
[01:27] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:27] <PhinnFort> !partitions
[01:27] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:27] <PhinnFort> !windows-partitions
[01:27] <Stormzoeker> !ntfs
[01:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:28] <Ace2016> or you could install kdf, then run kwikdisk, if is says no permissions, then try kdesu kwikdisk, it appears in the system tray, right click on it and pick the partition from the list
[01:28] <sinpath> oh no i have to go through that again?
[01:29] <cpk1> sinpath: try mount -t ntfs /dev/wherethehdpartis /media/somefolderimade
[01:29] <cpk1> assuming it is ntfs
[01:29] <cpk1> it will be read only iirc though
[01:30] <sinpath> ok thanks
[01:33] <philphoto> my desktop settings in Feisty keep disappearing.  Is this yet another documented bug?
[01:35] <jack> hi
[01:36] <terran4000> hi
[01:36] <Stormzoeker> hi
[01:36] <PF-Away> hi
[01:36] <jack> i've got the problem that once i am idle (i dont use a screensaver but it doesnt make a difference) my xorg cpu luad goes up, fan is loud its reayll bad, even though a dual core processor
[01:37] <PF-Away> !hi | jack
[01:37] <ubotu> jack: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:37] <jack> hi man
[01:37] <eilker> may "lsb_release -a" be used for all distros ?
[01:38] <PF-Away> eilker: all self-respecting distro's, i suppose
[01:41] <eilker> PF-Away: thanx
[01:41] <luis__> hola a todos.
[01:41] <PyroMessiah> Hi everyone, I have a minor issue I need help with.  I have installed kubuntu on my computer, but it will not recognize my external usb drive.  Any ideas how to fix this?  It also won't recognize cd roms
[01:42] <luis__> hola a todos.
[01:42] <luis__> hablan espaol
[01:42] <PF-Away> eilker: yw
[01:42] <eilker> !es > luis__
[01:45] <PyroMessiah> Anyone?
[01:46] <terran4000> PyroMessiah: which version of Kubuntu did you install?
[01:47] <PyroMessiah> terran4000: Feisty
[01:47] <PyroMessiah> terran4000:  I'm a newbie.  Do I have to turn on usb capability somewhere or something?
[01:47] <terran4000> hmm, random question then ... is your computer new or old-ish?
[01:47] <PyroMessiah> terran4000:  About a year old
[01:48] <terran4000> huh ... 'should' have been fine then.
[01:49] <terran4000> as for your question, no ... such stuff is already enabled by default. Or at least should have been
[01:49] <PyroMessiah> okay, dumb mistake, I was trying to use a dvd in the cdrom, the cdrom works fine, but I can't get the usb drive to work
[01:49] <PyroMessiah> hmfff
[01:49] <PyroMessiah> ok
[01:49] <PyroMessiah> that isn't good news
[01:50] <terran4000> usb has usually been touch and go for me
[01:50] <terran4000> especially in linux
[01:50] <terran4000> it is possible that you key might just not work with linux
[01:51] <terran4000> you could try booting the the live cd again, and see'ing if the usb drive then seen then
[01:52] <chemicalvamp> hi everyone
[01:52] <terran4000> hi
[01:52] <FiRaRdA> java problem!
[01:52] <Stormzoeker> hi
[01:52] <FiRaRdA> sudo apt-get install java-common
[01:52] <chemicalvamp> #java
[01:52] <Powerking89670> how do I force close an app?
[01:53] <chemicalvamp> ctrl+alt+escape
[01:53] <chemicalvamp> then click the window
[01:53] <terran4000> you could also be sadistic and try > kill -9 <PID>
[01:53] <chemicalvamp> yup that too
[01:53] <chijin> that's not sadistic
[01:53] <PhinnFort> http://www.monzy.com/intro/killdashnine_lyrics.html
[01:54] <chemicalvamp> now how do you restart the desktop lol
[01:54] <sinpath> what kinda java do you need to play java games?
[01:54] <terran4000> chijin: people are mostly scared of the command line, or what I have experienced in the world
[01:54] <terran4000> chemicalvamp: ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:54] <chijin> terran4000: but other people love it
[01:54] <terran4000> chijin: :-)
[01:54] <chijin> <3
[01:55] <PhinnFort> !java
[01:55] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:56] <sinpath> how do i know what virson of kubuntu i have? >.<
[01:56] <posingaspopular> !version
[01:56] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[01:57] <ubuntu> I need the command to completely wipe a CF card plugged into usb
[01:57] <ubuntu> anyone?
[01:57] <PhinnFort> ubuntu: mkfs.vfat /dev/sd[something]
[01:58] <PhinnFort> replace [somthing]  with a1 or something
[01:58] <ubuntu> well, I don't want to make it a vfat file system
[01:58] <sinpath> hmm no LSB modules are availbale wtf?
[01:58] <ubuntu> like, I want to erase everything and leave it unpartitioned
[01:58] <Powerking89670> Guess wahat I did :p
[01:58] <ubuntu> so I can write my own custom partition table
[01:58] <Powerking89670> I accidently hit the taskbar at the bottom with cltr alt esc
[01:58] <PhinnFort> ubuntu: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda1
[01:59] <PhinnFort> ubuntu: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda
[01:59] <ubuntu_> #kubuntu+1
[01:59] <PhinnFort> i mean
[01:59] <Powerking89670> and being me I didnt know how to start it again
[01:59] <ubuntu_> #ubuntu+1
[01:59] <PhinnFort> Powerking89670: alt+f2 "kicker" enter
[02:01] <Powerking89670> Thank you PhinnFort :D
[02:01] <Powerking89670> I just tried it :D
[02:01] <PhinnFort> you are welcome:D
[02:02] <wossi> :D
[02:03] <Betzefer> any  uses slax ?
[02:03] <Betzefer> any 1 uses slax ?
[02:03] <wolferine> can I get some samba spoonfeeding pls, I have made a VERY simple smb.conf, but i cannot get it working
[02:04] <PhinnFort> Betzefer: this is a kubuntu channel
[02:04] <wossi> join ##slax, Betzefer
[02:05] <terran4000> wolferine: your trying to setup a samba server right?
[02:07] <sinpath> ok i need a mount command for the e drive anyone?
[02:08] <PhinnFort> eeeeh, what?
[02:08] <PhinnFort> e?
[02:08] <terran4000> wonder if we could make a Bash.org auto-submit script. A bot would sit in here and anytime someone says something stupid it'll automagically post it to Bash
[02:08] <PhinnFort> terran4000: you mean everytime someone says anything?
[02:08] <sinpath> i have a windows e drive i need the mount comand for it >.<
[02:09] <terran4000> PhinnFort: =^_^=
[02:09] <bronze_0_1> terran4000: so you just want to pipe the channel log into it?  :)
[02:09] <PhinnFort> sinpath: sorry, i don't do windows
[02:09] <PhinnFort> :D
[02:09] <terran4000> sinpath: this is easy .. but we'll need some information first
[02:09] <sinpath> haha ok  wish i could remeber it >.<
[02:09] <PhinnFort> sinpath: you have a hard drive you want to mount?
[02:09] <sinpath> oh like what?
[02:10] <terran4000> sinpath: do you have two or more physical hard drives?
[02:10] <sinpath> yes i have a dule boot & an e drive
[02:10] <PhinnFort> sinpath: how many physical drives?
[02:11] <sinpath> 2
[02:11] <PhinnFort> mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[02:11] <PhinnFort> sudo in front, maybe
[02:11] <sinpath> the main & then the  E drive
[02:11] <txwikinger> sinpath: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:11] <terran4000> that is assuming that the hard drives are IDE and not SATA
[02:11] <PhinnFort> terran4000: i also assume it's in the currently known universe, following our basic laws of physics
[02:11] <PhinnFort> :D
[02:12] <PhinnFort> i will stop now, and go to bed
[02:12] <PhinnFort> gnight
[02:12] <terran4000> heh, strange man
[02:12] <wolferine> sorry
[02:12] <wolferine> terran4000, yes
[02:12] <wolferine> i have two linux boxes, trying to share between
[02:13] <terran4000> hmm ... if it's two linux boxes and no windows boxes, samba is not recommended ... but anyway
[02:13] <wolferine> not recommended?
[02:13] <wolferine> why?
[02:14] <wolferine> what else would I use, nfs (isnt that secure I hear)
[02:14] <terran4000> samba is more of a "let us make something that windows can also try to use" type thing. it was a compatibility thing
[02:14] <terran4000> I would personally recommend just using sshfs or so
[02:14] <terran4000> then again
[02:14] <wolferine> which does what?
[02:14] <terran4000> I dont' know your setup
[02:15] <wolferine> server/workstation
[02:15] <terran4000> hmm ...
[02:15] <terran4000> if it is going to be serving stuff to more people ...
[02:15] <wolferine> keeping a HD on the server, wanting to share it with the work.
[02:15] <terran4000> ah well
[02:15] <terran4000> that changes a few things ^^
[02:15] <terran4000> samba is fine enough then
[02:16] <wolferine> im fine with the mounting
[02:16] <wolferine> just cannot get the connection between
[02:16] <wolferine> really messed up smb
[02:16] <terran4000> kk, well give me one min to access the conf file
[02:16] <wolferine> its not my .conf thats the issue though
[02:16] <terran4000> ???
[02:17] <wolferine> as I was saying, its a minimal .conf
[02:17] <terran4000> hmm ... so what doesn't work then? anyone connecting to those shares?
[02:17] <Mena> kubuntu-7.04-beta-desktop-i386.manifest What is this
[02:18] <terran4000> Mena: ... not 100% sure, but manifests are usually just a listing of what's inside
[02:18] <wolferine> workgroup = ubuntu  security = share [home]  path = home read only = yes
[02:18] <wolferine> thats about it
[02:18] <wolferine> path = /home *
[02:19] <terran4000> hmm ...
[02:19] <Mena> terran4000		, ok
[02:19] <terran4000> wolferine: not to sound mean or what not ... but are you sure the config file is properaly formatted and all?
[02:19] <sinpath> hey yorokobi
[02:20] <Mena> Thanks
[02:20] <Yorokobi> konnichi wa, sinpath
[02:20] <terran4000> np
[02:20] <terran4000> ohayoo Yorokobi
[02:20] <wolferine> yes, its formatted fine
[02:21] <sinpath> you know  that cmand line to mount the e drive again?
[02:21] <Yorokobi> ohayou gozaimasu, terran4000
[02:21] <terran4000> mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[02:21] <Yorokobi> sinpath, yeah
[02:21] <wolferine> well anyways, thanks for the help
[02:21] <sinpath> terran4000 that one dosnt work
[02:21] <terran4000> ogenki desuka Yorokobi-san?
[02:21] <Yorokobi> sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/c  (or similar)
[02:21] <sinpath> i need it again >.<
[02:22] <Yorokobi> terran4000, genki desu. Arigatou
[02:22] <Arwen> STOP TALKING IN JAPANESE...
[02:22] <Arwen> k thx
[02:22] <Yorokobi> heh
[02:22] <Jucato> !caps
[02:22] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:22] <Jucato> k thx
[02:22] <aaroncampbell> I have a RAID that is nearly 2 TB (RAID 5, 5*500G drives).  What FS should I use on it?  Ext2?  Ext3? ReiserFS?
[02:22] <sinpath> mount: mount point /mnt/c does not exist
[02:23] <Arwen> aaroncampbell, whichever one you like
[02:23] <aaroncampbell> What works well on large drives?
[02:23] <Arwen> aaroncampbell, ext2/3 have scalability issues, so maybe xfs or reiserfs?
[02:23] <fignew> aaroncampbell: I like XFS :)
[02:23] <Arwen> xfs and reiserfs have reliability issues though
[02:23] <Yorokobi> sinpath, did you end up creating /mnt/c or just /mnt/windows ?
[02:23] <fignew> Arwen: excuse me?
[02:24] <sinpath> just the mnt windows after what we did yesterday
[02:24] <Arwen> fignew, yes... xfs writes data out of sync, which means that if you crash, you can end up with old data
[02:24] <aaroncampbell> Arwen: well, it's a RAID so I can have reliability, but that won't help if the FS dies :|
[02:24] <terran4000> I also heard RFS has longevity issues .. shorter life spans for drives with it than with ext3 (for example).
[02:24] <Yorokobi> sinpath, 'sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/windows' maybe
[02:24] <sinpath> but i tryed putting mnt/windows
[02:24] <bud> jucato, how does one get kubuntuto encrypted?
[02:24] <fignew> Arwen: that's a feature ;)
[02:24] <Arwen> aaroncampbell, it's really a matter or choice, ext2/3 don't scale terribly well, but oh well
[02:24] <posingaspopular> Jucato, what is kubuntuto?
[02:24] <Arwen> fignew, yes, but also a possible vulnerability
[02:25] <Jucato> bud: um.. sorry... don't know... and it's "kubuntu" :)
[02:25] <fignew> well, if you want speed, XFS is the only way ;)
[02:25] <Arwen> it kind of counters the point of RAID
[02:25] <dwidmann> bud: pull up konqueror, and type "uwiki encryption" and see what you get
[02:25] <Jucato> posingaspopular: hehe. :)
[02:25] <bud> yes
[02:25] <Arwen> fignew, bah, ZFS :-)
[02:25] <aaroncampbell> Arwen: can you expound on that?  Does that mean they perform poorly on large drives?  Have a max driver size?
[02:25] <posingaspopular> bud, just reinstall it
[02:25] <Arwen> aaroncampbell, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext2#File_system_limits
[02:25] <terran4000> to fix all our file system problems we should all just use GFS
[02:25] <sinpath> uootoo ..... i think i have a new problem
[02:25] <Jucato> kubuntuto... sounds like a kubuntu dog from the wizard of oz :D
[02:25] <Yorokobi> sinpath, :| I was at work when I helped you last, I don't have the logs available ... can you paste 'sudo fdisk -l' to pastebin again for me?
[02:25] <Arwen> nothing major, but at 2TB, some of those seem less theoretical
[02:26] <terran4000> wolferine: still here?
[02:26] <sinpath> sure
[02:26] <sinpath> need past bin again
[02:26] <bud> each time I go email a pop up notice saying this email is unencryped
[02:26] <sinpath> >.<
[02:26] <Yorokobi> !paste > sinpath
[02:27] <bud> is there a fix
[02:27] <Yorokobi> bud, delete the email message
[02:27] <dwidmann> bud, well, you'd need the person recieving your emails to be able to decrypt the emails upon reciept, but you can use something like gpg
[02:27] <adrian99> Im havin a prob with my xorg, my driver was working fine and then I accidently bumped my power switch and it restarted my computer into cli and wouldn't allow me to enter the graphical until I restored the backup xorg
[02:27] <dwidmann> bud:, come to think of it, you have to have their public key also
[02:28] <sinpath> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13800/
[02:28] <bud> what is gpg please?
[02:28] <dwidmann> gnu privacy guard (or something), a play on pgp  (pretty good privacy).
[02:28] <terran4000> Generously Public Geeks!
[02:28] <Jucato> !gpg
[02:28] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[02:28] <Yorokobi> sinpath, hmmm ... 'sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/windows' should have worked.
[02:29] <bud> ok...thanks
[02:29] <sinpath> well i got a funny message when i copy pasted it from what you put then when i typed it
[02:29] <adrian99> so why would restarting my computer frag the xorg
[02:29] <Yorokobi> sinpath, funny how? (What was the message?)
[02:30] <sinpath> mount: /dev/hdd1 already mounted or /mnt/windows busy
[02:30] <sinpath> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /mnt/windows
[02:30] <Yorokobi> sinpath, okay ... what's in /mnt/windows? 'ls /mnt/windows'
[02:30] <Powerking89670> is Alien (command to convert .RPM to .Deb supported by Kubuntu?
[02:30] <dwidmann> Powerking89670: yes
[02:30] <scotty> When I view a PHP file in my localhost with Firefox, it tries to download the PHP file.
[02:30] <Yorokobi> sinpath, a synopsis will work rather than a file listing :)
[02:31] <scotty> How do I fix that?
[02:31] <Powerking89670> scotty: you need to install apache
[02:31] <Gtwy> hmm ... what is wlanconfig called now?
[02:31] <Gtwy> the command doesnt seem to work
[02:31] <sinpath> ok whats a synopsis?
[02:31] <Gtwy> and i cant find it in the packages
[02:31] <scotty> I have Apache2 installed, Powerking89670
[02:31] <Yorokobi> sinpath, quick summary
[02:31] <Powerking89670> scotty: you need to configure it, as do I
[02:31] <Jucato> sinpath: synopsis = summary
[02:31] <scotty> Powerking89670: How?
[02:31] <Jucato> !alien > Powerking89670
[02:31] <Powerking89670> scotty: I dont know lol
[02:31] <Powerking89670> scotty: thats why I havent done it yet :D
[02:32] <sinpath> ok...so how do i do that ....
[02:32] <adrian99> hey Jucato why would an accidental restart from hitting the power button on my pc frag my xorg?
[02:32] <Yorokobi> scotty. sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.* /etc/apache2/mods-enabled' then 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart'
[02:32] <Powerking89670> My Console does not recognize the Alien command
[02:33] <Arwen> Powerking89670, sudo apt-get install alien
[02:33] <Yorokobi> sinpath, is /mnt/windows your C drive or your E (?) drive contents?
[02:33] <Jucato> adrian99: it shouldn't... unless there were some X or kernel related updates that happened before restarting
[02:33] <sinpath> E
[02:33] <Jucato> Powerking89670: install alien, but take note that it's not highly recommended to use alien
[02:33] <Arwen> Powerking89670, ^^
[02:33] <Powerking89670> yes I know
[02:33] <Powerking89670> I read that in the manual
[02:33] <Arwen> not because alien can't convert RPMs, that's trivial
[02:33] <Powerking89670> how else should I get limewire :p
[02:33] <adrian99> Jucato: as far as I know there wasn't but now everytime I reactivate my driver my GUI gets toasted
[02:34] <Jucato> !limewire > Powerking89670
[02:34] <Arwen> the issue is that rpms are for RH, and RH works different
[02:34] <Jucato> !frostwire > Powerking89670
[02:34] <Arwen> Powerking89670, install frostwire
[02:34] <Powerking89670> frostwire?
[02:34] <Yorokobi> sinpath, 'sudo mkdir /mnt/c'
[02:34] <Arwen> yes, limewire, except better
[02:34] <Powerking89670> yes I know the issue
[02:34] <Jucato> Powerking89670: see the private messages the bot sent you
[02:34] <Yorokobi> sinpath, 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/c'
[02:35] <Powerking89670> Thank you Jucato
[02:36] <Powerking89670> sudo dpkg -i FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[02:36] <Powerking89670> oops
[02:36] <Powerking89670> dpkg: error processing FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb (--install):
[02:36] <Powerking89670>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[02:36] <Powerking89670> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:36] <Powerking89670>  FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[02:36] <adrian99> wheres the error log for the xorg?
[02:36] <Powerking89670> I got that error. Any suggestions?
[02:36] <Yorokobi> adrian99, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:36] <Arwen> Powerking89670, um, you in the same directory as the deb?
[02:36] <kripton1x> Im tryin to set up dual monitors
[02:36] <adrian99> cool thanks i'll pastebin from there to get a better idea
[02:37] <kripton1x> and after configuring in system settings, restarting, i now cant access anymore the systemseettings display manager
[02:37] <kripton1x> it says signal 11 sigsegv
[02:37] <sinpath> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13803/
[02:37] <Powerking89670> Arwen:No I was under the impression that that should download it
[02:37] <Arwen> Powerking89670, uh, no, lo
[02:37] <Arwen> apt can only get packages in your repositories - download it from frostwire.com
[02:37] <Powerking89670> Doh, I see that now
[02:38] <Powerking89670> my brain skiped the first paragrpah
[02:38] <Yorokobi> sinpath, I fixed the mount command: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13804/
[02:38] <Powerking89670> I feel like such an idiot
[02:38] <Yorokobi> sinpath, you were missing a space :)
[02:38] <kripton1x> can anyone help me with this?
[02:38] <sinpath> ok so what do i do ?
[02:38] <Yorokobi> sinpath, did it work? (ie, no errors)
[02:39] <jarle> Anybody else having problems getting the nvidia driver to work in feisty?
[02:39] <sinpath> you lost me
[02:39] <sinpath> >.<
[02:39] <Powerking89670> kripton, if you are having a problem just state it, someone will prolly help if they can
[02:39] <kripton1x> i did
[02:40] <kripton1x> I cant open up system settings dusplay manager cause its telling me it crashed and caused signall 11 SIGSEGV
[02:40] <Powerking89670> oh sorry I missed it. I dont know how to setup dual monitors im afraid
[02:40] <Arwen> Powerking89670, scroll up, he gets segfaults with dual monitors
[02:40] <adrian99> hey Jucato this is the xorg log http://pastebin.ca/423248
[02:40] <Yorokobi> sinpath, you were missing a space between /dev/hda1 and /mnt/c in the command you entered. The pastebin link I sent has the command with the space you needed
[02:40] <Powerking89670> yes I noticed now :p
[02:40] <sinpath> oh ok ty
[02:40] <Arwen> kripton1x, hmm, well, I can't help you - but, maybe some information on your setup would help - you have nvidia twinview? xinerama? ati huge mode? what?
[02:41] <sinpath> mount: mount point /mnt/c does not exist
[02:41] <Yorokobi> adrian99, do you have the nvidia-glx package installed? it looks like it can't find the nvidia driver
[02:41] <kripton1x> ati
[02:41] <Yorokobi> sinpath, did you create /mnt/c ? (sudo mkdir /mnt/c)
[02:41] <adrian99> I did have it installed unless it lost it somehow
[02:41] <Jucato> adrian99: this is on Dapper, Edgy, or Feisty?
[02:41] <adrian99> Edgy
[02:41] <Arwen> kripton1x, proprietary or normal drivers?
[02:42] <kripton1x> I dont know to be honest
[02:42] <Jucato> adrian99: and how did you install the nvidia driver? nvidia-glx or from Nvidia.com?
[02:42] <Arwen> ..
[02:42] <adrian99> nope apt-get
[02:42] <kripton1x> I dont configure much drivers and video stuff i just needa get my duals workin so i can program measier
[02:42] <Arwen> kripton1x, run this in a terminal "glxinfo | grep vendor" - tell me what it says
[02:42] <sinpath> mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /mnt/c busy
[02:42] <sinpath> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /mnt/windows
[02:42] <Jucato> hm...
[02:42] <kripton1x> k
[02:42] <ubuntu_> !ati | jarle
[02:42] <sinpath> ....hun i think i found the problem
[02:42] <ubotu> jarle: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:43] <kripton1x> server glx vendor string: SGI
[02:43] <kripton1x> client glx vendor string: SGI
[02:43] <kripton1x> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[02:43] <Yorokobi> sinpath, paste the output of 'mount' (or sudo mount) for me (to pastebin again)
[02:43] <Yorokobi> ... unless you found the problem :)
[02:43] <sinpath> XD  its mounted & i can see every thing on the drive
[02:43] <jarle> ubuntu_: It all worked just fine before upgrading to feisty...
[02:43] <Yorokobi> sinpath, heh congratulations
[02:43] <Arwen> kripton1x, ok, non-proprietary drivers, one sec
[02:43] <sinpath> ty huns
[02:43] <manuel_> how can i change my languaje??
[02:43] <Yorokobi> sinpath, you're welcome
[02:44] <Arwen> kripton1x, which model of ATI exactly?
[02:44] <sinpath> one more thing hun if you dont mind?
[02:44] <adrian99> apt-get still see's the driver as being there
[02:44] <Jucato> !locale > manuel_
[02:44] <Yorokobi> scotty, did the ln -s trick work for you?
[02:44] <Yorokobi> sinpath, go ahead
[02:44] <Jucato> adrian99: X doesn't startup at all?
[02:44] <adrian99> nope
[02:44] <scotty> Yorokobi: After viewing about 5 documentations, I got it working
[02:44] <q_> hi all, can i change the icon background ?
[02:45] <kripton1x> Arwen: how can I find out
[02:45] <q_> i mean the icon background colour
[02:45] <kripton1x> ?
[02:45] <sinpath> how do i get into my c drive ?
[02:45] <manuel_> !locale > Jucato
[02:45] <scotty> thanks though
[02:45] <manuel_> ...
[02:45] <adrian99> I had to restore the xorg so I could get on IRC
[02:45] <melkor> which is better kopete or gain?
[02:45] <wolferine> terran4000, I am now
[02:45] <Jucato> manuel_: see  the private message the bot sent you
[02:45] <melkor> er gaim
[02:45] <Arwen> kripton1x, uh... try lspci in a terminal, see if you can find mention of ati in it (don't paste this to the channel)
[02:45] <Yorokobi> sinpath, you can use Konqueror ... type /mnt/windows in the location bar
[02:45] <manuel_> thanks man
[02:46] <manuel_> hey men, whats happend with the ATI??
[02:46] <manuel_> some bug??'
[02:46] <chemicalvamp> im in over my head, can i have some help with ndiswrapper?
[02:46] <Yorokobi> sinpath, if that shows you the contents of your E drive then I'll need to see what 'mount' tells you.
[02:46] <sinpath> yes thats what im using but it see's only the E drive
[02:46] <Yorokobi> !ndis > chemicalvamp
[02:46] <Jucato> adrian99: did you upgrade to a new kernel recently?
[02:46] <q_> is it even possible to change the icon background in kde ? like put a black background to see em better when i move them :)
[02:46] <Arwen> kripton1x, oh yeah, http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/MergedFB is a good reference on the ATI r200/300 dualhead support
[02:47] <Yorokobi> q_, you can look at Kmenu -> System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors
[02:47] <adrian99> Jucato: I installed the linux headers for this system and thats the only thing kernel wise Ive done, other then that I did a dist-upgrade after the install
[02:47] <kripton1x> Arwen: http://pastebin.ca/423254
[02:47] <Jucato> adrian99: and you didn't see a new kernel in the grub menu?
[02:48] <adrian99> there is more then 1 yes
[02:48] <terran4000> wolferine: I'm back too
[02:48] <wolferine> cool
[02:48] <terran4000> wolferine: still got the issue?
[02:48] <wolferine> fo sure
[02:48] <Arwen> kripton1x, hmm, an x600 - I'll see if it has any of its own bugs, in the meanwhile, try that link I gave you
[02:48] <Jucato> adrian99: ah so new kernel... you need to check that you also have the linux-restricted-modules for that new kernel.
[02:48] <sinpath> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13807/
[02:48] <manuel_> what happend with the FUcking ATI RADEON "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b"???'
[02:48] <terran4000> wolferine: ok ... can you descirbe the problem to me ... be specific please :-)
[02:48] <q_> Yorokobi, i don't see nothing about icons..
[02:49] <Arwen> manuel_, nothing, that's a harmless bug in libmesa
[02:49] <Jucato> !language | manuel_
[02:49] <ubotu> manuel_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:49] <Arwen> manuel_, and don't swear
[02:49] <zouzou85> hi guys,
[02:49] <manuel_> what happend with the (censured) ATI RADEON "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b"?????
[02:49] <adrian99> Jucato: how would I find out?
[02:49] <Yorokobi> sinpath, odd ... okay. 'sudo umount /mnt/windows'
[02:49] <manuel_> aaa ok
[02:49] <zouzou85> i installed the wireless card using ndiswrapper but it doesn't connect to free or public wifi networks
[02:50] <Jucato> adrian99: boot into that kernel. then when you get to the part where X doesn't load, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to login to a console. then "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)"
[02:50] <wolferine> sure. terran4000 so as I said, I have two computers, server and a work.
[02:50] <Yorokobi> q_, it may not be possible ... I've not tried it but that's where you change most of the colors.
[02:50] <Arwen> manuel_, hehe, ati support is pretty bad though
[02:50] <manuel_> may i install the ATI's drivers or?
[02:50] <manuel_> or not...
[02:50] <wolferine> terran4000, I have created a min. .conf for the server and the work.
[02:50] <wolferine> and I am trying to use Nautilus to surf to the server, accessing the /home
[02:51] <chemicalvamp> Yorokobi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64 is usefull, but i stil need an experienced user to help me do a chroot to isntall everything
[02:51] <adrian99> Jucato: k brb
[02:51] <kripton1x> Arwen: alrighty
[02:51] <zouzou85> any ideas?
[02:51] <Yorokobi> !chroot > Yorokobi
[02:51] <sinpath> give me a sec hun copying files
[02:51] <kripton1x> I mean right now both monitors are working
[02:51] <kripton1x> theyre just duplicated
[02:51] <Arwen> manuel_, you can try fglrx if you want, but it's hardly better
[02:51] <kripton1x> i wanted to set both monitors different
[02:51] <Powerking89670> ok, FrostWire installed.....but on run it starts to load in the taskbar but crashes unexspectedly with no warning
[02:51] <Arwen> kripton1x, mergedfb will make one large virtual monitor
[02:51] <kripton1x> it was doing it, but when i restarted X, it jsut fails now to let me config X
[02:51] <kripton1x> hmm.
[02:51] <Arwen> be warned that the resolution can't be higher than 2048x2048 though
[02:51] <kripton1x> can I apt-get it?
[02:52] <Arwen> kripton1x, it's part of xorg, read the page I linked
[02:52] <kripton1x> and adjust resolution for both monitors (diff resolutions)
[02:52] <wolferine> network:///Windows Network <-- thats all I see, when I surf to the Windows Network, it changes to smb://
[02:52] <wolferine> but nothing shows
[02:52] <terran4000> wolferine: ok. so ... currently the problem is that you can't access the samba share on the other computer right?
[02:52] <wolferine> yes
[02:52] <manuel_> sorry arwen, whats fglrx?
[02:52] <wolferine> i cannot access it on the server (from the work.)
[02:52] <Arwen> manuel_, proprietary ati driver, it kind of sucks, but it's faster
[02:53] <zouzou85> i installed the wireless card using ndiswrapper but it doesn't connect to free or public wifi networks
[02:53] <zouzou85> any ideas?
[02:53] <manuel_> so if i install i will have more fps??
[02:53] <terran4000> wolferine: try smb://IP-ADDRESS-BE-Here/share-name
[02:53] <wolferine> um
[02:53] <wolferine> hold on a sec
[02:53] <manuel_> now i have about 700
[02:53] <melkor> zouzou, type ifconfig from the command line
[02:53] <wolferine> the samba restart must take sometime to get it goiing
[02:54] <Arwen> manuel_, 700???? in what?
[02:54] <zouzou85> it shows the cards installed melkor
[02:54] <terran4000> k
[02:54] <Arwen> but yes, fglrx will get you more fps at the cost of system instability
[02:54] <Arwen> also, fglrx doesn't work with aiglx/composite
[02:54] <melkor> zouzou does it say essid or give it an ip adress?
[02:55] <melkor> zouzou, does it say ath0 eth0 or something of that nature?
[02:55] <zouzou85> the essid i am connected to right now
[02:55] <zouzou85> eth1
[02:55] <terran4000> Arwen: you can use XGL instead of aiglx/compostie ...
[02:55] <terran4000> *composite
[02:55] <Arwen> terran4000, but XGL sucks too
[02:55] <Arwen> :-\
[02:55] <terran4000> yeah ... it does
[02:55] <Arwen> it's like a pile of suckage if you go that way
[02:55] <terran4000> horribly
[02:55] <terran4000> ><
[02:55] <terran4000> Ati + linux == trouble && !fun
[02:56] <manuel_> glxgears -printfps
[02:56] <manuel_> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[02:56] <manuel_> 3452 frames in 5.0 seconds = 690.239 FPS
[02:56] <manuel_> 3854 frames in 5.0 seconds = 770.753 FPS
[02:56] <melkor> zouzou,  so it is on a network right now?
[02:56] <Arwen> manuel_, don't spam, ah, glxgears?
[02:56] <Arwen> you know, glxgears != benchmark
[02:56] <kripton1x> Arwen: X just crashed man :[
[02:56] <manuel_> yes...
[02:56] <kripton1x> tryin to start Amarok
[02:56] <manuel_> not spam lol
[02:56] <zouzou85> a protected network, one that requires a wep key
[02:56] <Arwen> manuel_, hmm.......
[02:56] <Arwen> well, that's not good
[02:56] <Arwen> kripton1x, *
[02:57] <kripton1x> ?
[02:57] <kripton1x> *?
[02:57] <Arwen> manuel_, so, fglrx will probably lead to 2-3x glxgears rates, but it will be less secure
[02:57] <Arwen> I mean less stable
[02:57] <zouzou85> a protected network, one that requires a wep key melkor
[02:57] <melkor> zouzou so you just cannot connect when you try a network with out a key
[02:57] <Arwen> kripton1x, huh, no idea - you might wanna talk to someone with more knowledge of X :-(
[02:57] <jager> melkor and arwen
[02:57] <jager> lotr geeks all
[02:57] <zouzou85> exactly melkor
[02:57] <cpk1> my glx gears only gives 400fps rofl
[02:58] <kripton1x> Arwen: what was that site?
[02:58] <Arwen> jager, I can change my nick if I want, lol
[02:58] <Arwen> kripton1x, the wiki for the xorg project
[02:58] <manuel_> so, i want to play games on linux, what do you recommend me?? install or not install, thats is the question... the ati'owners drivers???
[02:58] <kripton1x> ya\
[02:58] <melkor> do you every use iwconfig?
[02:58] <kripton1x> melkor whats the prob
[02:58] <kripton1x> iwconfig is like ifconfig but for wireless interfaces
[02:58] <Arwen> kripton1x, http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/MergedFB - read it carefully
[02:58] <zouzou85> i used that too,
[02:59] <kripton1x> thnx Arwen.
[02:59] <Arwen> from what I see, you have to make sure the total combined resolution of your desktops is less than 2048x2048
[02:59] <Arwen> or else you get 0 performance
[02:59] <Arwen> cpk1, lol
[02:59] <melkor> zouzou I think you can use iwconfig eth1 key open essid ...
[02:59] <zouzou85> same prob, it shows the card, but won't connect to a FREE network
[02:59] <Arwen> manuel_, what kind of fps do you get in your game right now? NOT GLXGEARS
[02:59] <melkor> zouzou, does it say the key is off when you try?
[03:00] <manuel_> i dont know
[03:00] <manuel_> because i cant play
[03:00] <manuel_> i just entered on the game
[03:00] <zouzou85> nop, it just hangs
[03:00] <manuel_> black screen and then the desktop...
[03:00] <zouzou85> at 28% when using knetworkmanager
[03:00] <zouzou85> melkor
[03:01] <melkor> zouzou, i've had the other problem where I couldn't connect to a key'd network.
[03:01] <adrian99> Jucato: it said the package wasn't found
[03:01] <zouzou85> how did you fix it melkor?
[03:01] <wolferine> terran4000, you still there?
[03:01] <Arwen> manuel_, what kind of card do you have right now? model number? because if it's not that good, you might want to invest in an nVidia card
[03:01] <melkor> zouzou, I didn't
[03:01] <jager> does iwconfig say  no wireless extensions?
[03:01] <Jucato> adrian99: what exactly did you type? "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)"
[03:02] <zouzou85> iwconfig shows the card installed! jager
[03:02] <manuel_> i have ATI RADEON 9200SE
[03:02] <adrian99> crap think I may have messed up the command
[03:02] <melkor> zouzou, try getting iwconfig to turn the key off
[03:02] <jager> just checking :)
[03:02] <adrian99> brb again lol
[03:03] <terran4000> wolferine: yo, still here
[03:03] <jager> i haven't gotten knetworkmanager or whatever to work yet
[03:03] <zouzou85> what is the command for that melkor? "iwconfig -key=off?
[03:03] <karmax> hello, sorry for bother... im having a problem with libc6-i686
[03:04] <Arwen> manuel_, that's a really old card, I suggest just buying a recent nVidia :-)
[03:04] <karmax> im running kubuntu *last version, and when i run adept for update everything it fails with libc6-i686
[03:04] <Arwen> might I suggest a 6800 or a 7600?
[03:04] <jager> iwconfig ethx key off
[03:04] <manuel_> loool
[03:04] <manuel_> do you work in nVidia?
[03:04] <manuel_> spam...
[03:04] <Arwen> no, it's just that nvidia has a good driver
[03:04] <wolferine> hehe
[03:04] <manuel_> yes yes..
[03:04] <Arwen> ATI's drivers suck on all platforms :-)
[03:04] <manuel_> and i santa claus
[03:05] <chemicalvamp> what is the link for the feisty fawn upgrade tool how-to?
[03:05] <Arwen> manuel_, that said, I guess you should install fglrx - if you're not using compiz/beryl, there won't be a problem afaik
[03:05] <wolferine> terran4000, so if I want to have username login and access /username, do I have to add /home/username into the smb.conf?
[03:05] <jager> i never buy ati, for exactly the reason Arwen noted
[03:05] <jager> nvidia supports linux better
[03:05] <manuel_> nVidia... ok, recommend me nice model
[03:05] <jager> even better would be open drivers, but i'll take what i can get
[03:05] <Arwen> manuel_, 6800, 7600, 7950, 8800 :-)
[03:05] <melkor> zouzou did you get that? iwconifg eth1 key off , you should run it as root though
[03:05] <Arwen> in order from least to most expensive
[03:05] <underdog5004> manuel_, beryl runs comfortably on a geforce fx5500
[03:05] <melkor> I think
[03:05] <jager> i run beryl on a geforce 2 mx 400 64mb card
[03:05] <jager> oooold
[03:06] <underdog5004> manuel_, I've got 128Mb of ram on it too
[03:06] <manuel_> not to expensive...
[03:06] <Arwen> well, you can run beryl on an Intel IGP, so that doesn't mean much
[03:06] <underdog5004> jager, lol, me too!
[03:06] <Arwen> manuel_, 6800 - that's under $100 and still has 256MB RAM
[03:06] <nicoc> iversion
[03:06] <terran4000> wolferine: well, it's all a matter of how you want to setup permissions
[03:06] <nicoc> !version
[03:06] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[03:06] <jager> man i thought i was the only one who would be such a masochist underdog5004 :)
[03:06] <karmax> please... nobody know anything about a problem (BROKEN) with libc6-i686 in kubuntu 7.04-beta ?
[03:06] <terran4000> wolferine: if you want seperate access to different users to different /home folders, then you would have to setup each one seperately
[03:07] <underdog5004> jager, it performs pretty well, I just had to manually install the driver...
[03:07] <prak> does anyone know how to solve the problem of where I can't get further than the login screen after entering the login properly?
[03:07] <jager> sorry karmax i didn't get very far with feisty before i realized i should wait for release
[03:07] <terran4000> wolferine: and please excuse my horrible spelling. Even after 22 years on this rock I still can't spell for <insert bad word>
[03:07] <jager> are you, by any chance, out of disk space prak?
[03:07] <underdog5004> jager, I've got a triangle-desktop switcher, transparency, wobbly windows, fire, etc...
[03:07] <wolferine> your doing fine
[03:07] <karmax> jager, im new with *ubuntu, but i installed this version becouse the canges on the installer
[03:07] <jager> fire, eh?  i haven't got that one yet, i'll look into it
[03:07] <prak> no, jager
[03:08] <prak> doesn't look like it jager
[03:08] <wolferine> fire is the best
[03:08] <adrian99> Jucato:  nope still says it can't find the package
[03:08] <manuel_> but i have beryl
[03:08] <underdog5004> yeah, although I like transparent wobbliness as well
[03:08] <manuel_> running okey
[03:08] <jager> can you login under any acct or are they all broken?
[03:08] <jager> might add an accnt ortwo to see
[03:08] <karmax> maybe i must wait a few days before doing the update with adept :S ?
[03:08] <manuel_> but i cant play some games that i can play on windows :S
[03:08] <wolferine> terran4000, so do I have to add the path, or not?
[03:08] <prak> how do i add more account, jager?
[03:08] <Arwen> manuel_, really? um, then maybe the reason that you can't play your games is that you're running beryl..
[03:08] <jager> can you login from the console?
[03:08] <Jucato> adrian99: hm.. ok... just install the "linux-restricted-modules-generic" package...
[03:09] <jager> or is that broken too?
[03:09] <Arwen> if you try to use beryl and gl at the same time, weird things happen
[03:09] <melkor> Do they make wireless cards that don't support encryption?
[03:09] <adrian99> k
[03:09] <vit_>  Soulrider are you there?
[03:09] <jager> if you can get a shell just run adduser prak
[03:09] <manuel_> not befor install beryl i coudlnt..
[03:09] <terran4000> wolferine: for example ... for /home/photos ... I have: [Photos]  path = /home/photos read list = terran4000, family, bob write list = terran4000, family, bob guest ok = Yes
[03:09] <vit_> hi to everybody
[03:09] <manuel_> and whats fglrx?
[03:10] <wolferine> so you do have the path listed
[03:10] <adrian99> Jucaot: k that ones installing
[03:10] <terran4000> manuel_: fglrx is ATI's proprietery (or however that's spelled) driver. none open source driver
[03:10] <Arwen> !fglrx | manuel_
[03:10] <ubotu> manuel_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:10] <terran4000> wolferine: yes
[03:10] <prak> jager, i'll try that now
[03:10] <terran4000> wolferine: because I don't want to give people 'general' access to other directories and what not
[03:11] <terran4000> wolferine: for this particular server, and very up-tight about who gets access and how
[03:11] <adrian99> Jucato: so once thats done should I just reactivate the nvdia driver and restart x?
[03:11] <wolferine> can u please stop using my nick in posts :)
[03:11] <terran4000> wolferine: sure :-) ^_^
[03:11] <wolferine> hehe
[03:11] <jager> afk supper
[03:11] <Jucato> adrian99: yep
[03:11] <wolferine> i just have a script installed with xchat
[03:12] <wolferine> and its driving me nutz :/
[03:12] <adrian99> Jucato: cool thanks, brb then
[03:12] <terran4000> haha, sorry ^^
[03:12] <wolferine> np
[03:12] <manuel_> thank you Arwen
[03:12] <manuel_> nice to meet you:D
[03:12] <wolferine> so, ill try this again
[03:12] <Arwen> manuel_, :-\
[03:12] <manuel_> buy me a nVidia Plz
[03:12] <moby_python> When I type iwconfig eth0 key<PHONE_NUMBER>341234 it says operation not permitted.  Is taht because of the card, or the driver?
[03:12] <terran4000> don't forget to have a [global]  section though .. .don't know you you have one or not.
[03:13] <wolferine> yeah, I do
[03:13] <terran4000> cool
[03:13] <wolferine> writable and read only
[03:13] <wolferine> if I do writeable = yes, then I dont need read only...
[03:13] <prak> jager, i've tried removing kdm and then installing kdm again
[03:14] <prak> i only get to use the shell only
[03:14] <prak> how do i get it back to default form?
[03:14] <prak> or close to it?
[03:14] <terran4000> well, you might want to if you want someone to be able to only read
[03:14] <wolferine> its just one user
[03:14] <wolferine> accessing the /home on the server
[03:14] <wolferine> no one else
[03:15] <adrian99> Jucato: Thanks it worked perfectly : )
[03:15] <vito>  anybody works with clipse??
[03:15] <Jucato> adrian99: good :)
[03:15] <wolferine> eclipse?
[03:15] <vito> yes
[03:15] <vito> it's like NETBEANS
[03:16] <wolferine> vito, yes, I have worked with it
[03:16] <wolferine> is that all you wanted to know?
[03:16] <jhutchins> !sudo | moby_python
[03:16] <ubotu> moby_python: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:16] <jhutchins> !kdesu | moby_python
[03:16] <ubotu> moby_python: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:17] <prak> !kdm
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <vito>
[03:17] <karmax> well it seems im having a more odd problem, why/how its possible that when i do "~# mv file1 newfile1" it fails with: "-su: /bin/mv: cannot execute binary file"
[03:17] <moby_python> it has nothing to do with sudo
[03:17] <jhutchins> moby_python: You will need sudo to run iwconfig.
[03:17] <moby_python> I do
[03:17] <adrian99> Jucato:  umm one more thing, I got xmms installed and all the other stuff required for playing mp3's but they still won't play
[03:18] <vito> $ wolferine my PC turn slowly when I runned it
[03:18] <jhutchins> karmax: Please have a look at the page just listed above for how to use sudo to execute commands.
[03:18] <vito>  wolferine my PC turn slowly when I runned it
[03:18] <wolferine> vito, no need to repear
[03:18] <karmax> im running a konsole root terminal
[03:18] <wolferine> repeat*
[03:18] <vito>  that is normally?
[03:18] <wolferine> vito, how much RAM do you have?
[03:19] <Jucato> adrian99: hm.... what exactly did you install?
[03:19] <vito>  wolferine I don't know... how can i know that?
[03:19] <adrian99> I installed xmms and also all the extra stuff it said to for edgy on the restricted formats help page
[03:19] <wolferine> vito pls dont use my nick when replying :)
[03:19] <jhutchins> Ok, kubuntu installer is not smart enough to detect the options passed so it could boot and clone them to the installed grub - that's pretty dumb.
[03:19] <wolferine> vito, you can find out..
[03:20] <wolferine> one sec
[03:20] <Jucato> adrian99: libxine-extracodecs installed?
[03:20] <adrian99> yeps
[03:20] <wolferine> trype free
[03:20] <wolferine> type*
[03:20] <wolferine> in a shel
[03:20] <jhutchins> moby_python: There is a reason to use sudo instead of a root terminal window.
[03:21] <vito>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[03:21] <vito> Mem:        190400     187992       2408          0       5004      56252
[03:21] <vito> -/+ buffers/cache:     126736      63664
[03:21] <vito> Swap:      1028152     150036     878116
[03:21] <wolferine> wow
[03:21] <vito> what does mean it?
[03:21] <wolferine> that might get you banned
[03:21] <karmax> jhutchins: i open a root terminal (konsole) and run mv, i thought that... well, i forgot to use sudo
[03:22] <Goontz> asdf!
[03:22] <moby_python> I have an atheros card and a prism card.  the atheros card says encryption off and I can turn it on with iwconfig
[03:22] <adrian99> Jucato: yea I got that package installed but oddly enough they still wont play :S
[03:23] <Jucato> weird.. :/
[03:23] <moby_python> the prism card doesn't say anything about encryption and I can't turn it on with iwconfig
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> adrian99: might want to change your sound server
[03:23] <adrian99> its using alsa at the moment...how would I change that?
[03:23] <Jucato> oooh hi Admiral_Chicago!
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> hey there Jucato
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> where?
[03:24] <Jucato> some other channel lol
[03:24] <Jucato> (not your name though)
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> adrian99: amarok?
[03:24] <jhutchins> moby_python: Sounds like it is a driver issue then.
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> ??? -motu?
[03:24] <adrian99> none of my players will play mp3
[03:25] <Yorokobi> that's a recurring theme here ^^^
[03:25] <moby_python> jhutchins, so you think the card should support encryption...it cost 7 bucks I figured it might not.
[03:25] <vito> wolferine: teachme what does mean that?
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> that is odd, how did you install libxine-extracodecs
[03:25] <wolferine> vito please dont use my nick in posts, thanks
[03:25] <prak> does anyone know how to solve the problem of where I can't get further than the login screen after entering the login properly?
[03:25] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: nah some private channel. just ranting about how I think I'm the only geek in the immediate and extended family and in the neighborhood. so alone... :(
[03:26] <Jucato> (anyway, offtopic now :P)
[03:26] <adrian99> Admiral_Chicago: same as I install everything else, with apt-get
[03:26] <Admiral_Chicago> adrian99: and you have multiverse installed?
[03:26] <sinpath> will "/dev/hda1     /mnt/windows    ntfs    user,defaults   0   0" allow you to access /mnt/windows as a regular user
[03:27] <adrian99> Admiral_Chicago: I changed that in my sources file yeps
[03:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: well i'm a real geek but my friends are much worse than I am.... my family pretends to understand
[03:27] <Admiral_Chicago> adrian99: care to paste them to the channel
[03:27] <adrian99> k jsec
[03:28] <eilker> anyone installed oracle on kubuntu ?
[03:28] <adrian99> Admiral_Chicago:  here it is http://pastebin.ca/423291
[03:29] <Powerking89670> night everyone, Have a good night LD
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> adrian99: hmm, what does apt-cache policy libxine-extracodecs tell yu
[03:30] <jarn> Can someone tell me what files they have in ther /etc/fonts directory?
[03:30] <wolferine> vito, has it always "not worked well" ?
[03:31] <adrian99> Admiral_Chicago:  here's the output I get http://pastebin.ca/423296
[03:31] <Admiral_Chicago> does anything like flash work on your computer
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> what about ogg?
[03:32] <adrian99> ogg works fine
[03:32] <glundberg> so...anyone else install the x11 update?
[03:32] <glundberg> it just broke my kde
[03:33] <jarn> What files do you all have in /etc/fonts/ ?
[03:33] <adrian99> mp3 is the only audio format not working
[03:33] <Admiral_Chicago> you try to remove / reinstall ?
[03:33] <kristjans> can anyone tell why kubuntu's log in screen might not appear after the loading screen and a black screen comes up instead? the system is a laptop with amd turion x2 processors and nvidia gfx card
[03:34] <adrian99> nope haven't tried that yet
[03:34] <vito>  always....
[03:34] <jarle> jarn: conf.avail  conf.d  fonts.conf  fonts.dtd
[03:34] <karmax> i installed ubuntu just to forget about having dependency problems and such... i only want to work, i cant believe that i cant rely on adept packet manager
[03:35] <adrian99> Admiral_Chicago:  just tried at it didn't work :S
[03:35] <jarle> kristjans: maybe your display diver is not working?
[03:35] <glundberg> karmax, x11 update ?
[03:35] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, that is really strange....
[03:35] <kristjans> what can i do about that?
[03:35] <adrian99> Im kinda of a magnet for weirdness
[03:35] <wolferine> vito, you are really lacking alot of memory
[03:35] <jarn> jarle: Okay, thanks. Out of curiosity, did you add conf.avail?
[03:36] <karmax> glundberg: no.. i only do a update everything after a fresh kubuntu 7.04 install and i have a broken package libc6-i686
[03:36] <jarle> jarle: never made any changes to that dir :)
[03:36] <wolferine> vito,  I recommend using the shell, like nano, as an editor for java, not using an IDE, as it will be slow on your system
[03:36] <jarle> jarle=jarn :)
[03:36] <jaevel> is this a ubuntu support channel??
[03:36] <wolferine> jaevel, kbuntu
[03:36] <Jucato> jaevel: this is for Kubuntu
[03:36] <chemicalvamp> I need some help, please have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13810/ if you are free
[03:36] <jaevel> yeah, thats what i meant, sorry...
[03:37] <jarn> jarle: Hrm, I don't have conf.avail. I've added things, but never taken away things.
[03:37] <jaevel> can any1 help me with a nic car problem?
[03:37] <jaevel> nic card?
[03:37] <karmax> glundberg: i dont want to do any fancy or custom stuff, just a normal update...
[03:37] <kristjans> safe mode gets stuck at "checking TSC synchronization across 2 CPUs"
[03:37] <jarn> jarle: The reason I wanted to know was because I had deleted some stuff to remove some custom things I had did and I wanted to make sure that I hadn't deleted anything that was originally there. ;)
[03:38] <karmax> glundberg: can i say to adept "forget about libc6-i686" and continue?
[03:41] <kamui> I seem to have broken my inetd in my distupgrade
[03:43] <adrian99> what could cause this mp3 issue anyway?
[03:44] <wolferine> how do I get vncviewer?
[03:44] <wolferine> during the vncserver install?
[03:44] <adrian99> just out of curiosity where do the packages that you install get stored
[03:44] <chemicalvamp> has anybody had a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13810/ yet?
[03:44] <Jucato> kamui: dragon of earth messing up your dist-upgrade? :D
[03:46] <wolferine> chemicalvamp, what is it regarding?
[03:46] <chemicalvamp> my wireless card works on edgy.. but not on feisty
[03:47] <chemicalvamp> makes it impossible to get the fix i need,
[03:47] <kamui> hi jucato :)
[03:48] <jaevel> can i reinstall a driver for my nic card from the cd-rom?
[03:49] <kamui> how do I fix apt, when its broken
[03:51] <Jucato> !adeptfix | kamui
[03:51] <ubotu> kamui: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:57] <chemicalvamp> wolferine did you see wat i said?
[04:01] <Kevlar_Soul> where is the program file for Firefox?
[04:01] <Kevlar_Soul> usr?
[04:01] <Kevlar_Soul> usr/bin ?
[04:02] <Kevlar_Soul> ?
[04:02] <jaevel> i wish i could help...
[04:02] <wolferine> chemicalvamp, not something I can help with
[04:02] <wolferine> how can I use RCD in *buntu ?
[04:03] <jaevel> anyone good with setting up network cards?
[04:04] <McFrosty> Tryin to install Kubuntu on my PC (same CD I used for my laptop) but I get stuck with BusyBox v1.1.3 .... /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs)...I have read that this doesn't mean much but not sure what options I have to get more info out about the error
[04:04] <Kevlar_Soul> Where is the executable for Firefox program?
[04:05] <fignew> /usr/bin/firefox
[04:05] <wolferine> Kevlar_Soul, which firefox
[04:05] <fignew> yes, like wolferine said, the command to find out is "which"
[04:06] <chemicalvamp> wolferine ok, thanks anyways
[04:06] <wolferine> REmote connection desktop
[04:06] <wolferine> for buntu?
[04:07] <Kevlar_Soul> wolferine? which? <IP_ADDRESS>?
[04:07] <tulio__> !mp3
[04:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:08] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> that bot posts too many links.
[04:08] <Kevlar_Soul> Giving a URL is not a solution.
[04:08] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> i say we wiene him off the link. hes getting kidney stones from it
[04:08] <Kevlar_Soul> Where is the executable for Firefox program?
[04:09] <jaevel> any1 know where i can get some info on getting my network card working?
[04:09] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Kevlar_Soul: i'd type locate firefox in a konsole window
[04:09] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> try to locate it there cos i forget
[04:09] <Kevlar_Soul> t3hwiz0rd-ibook:  okay
[04:09] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Kevlar_Soul: i think its in like /usr/local/share or somewhere in /usr/
[04:10] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> maybe /usr/local? not sure
[04:10] <josh_> yellow?
[04:10] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> blue?
[04:10] <josh_> blue?
[04:10] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> green?
[04:10] <eilker>  /tmp/app/1/image   /tmp/app/1 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0  // why do i have this in fstab ? what is this for ?
[04:10] <Kevlar_Soul> okay
[04:11] <Kevlar_Soul> Thanks
[04:11] <chemicalvamp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13813/ please have a look at it, if you have experience doing a chroot or using Ndiswrapper
[04:11] <Alonea> how do I get my webcam to show up in kopete?
[04:12] <hitmanWilly> !dvd > hitmanWilly
[04:12] <sayers> How can I tell which fan does which job. I dont know which is the CPU fan. Do I need to get in and look
[04:12] <sayers> ?
[04:13] <Alonea> i think I installed the drivers right, but I don't see any devices on kopete?
[04:13] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> was there a reason why i was kicked?
[04:15] <chemicalvamp> [02:12]  <-- t3hwiz0rd-ibook has left this channel.
[04:15] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> it just left?
[04:15] <chemicalvamp> thats what it says
[04:15] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> well thats the oddest thing irssi has ever done
[04:15] <tulio__> how do i know if my ubuntu is supporting my dual processor?
[04:20] <underdog5004> tulio__, uname
[04:20] <chemicalvamp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13813/ please have a look at it, if you have experience doing a chroot or using Ndiswrapper
[04:20] <underdog5004> tulio__, hold on, lemme get the right flag
[04:21] <scotty> Alright, I'm stuck. Whenever I try to sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start in Konsole, it always fails.
[04:21] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: is it installed?
[04:21] <underdog5004> tulio__, do uname -v. If you see smp in there, it's using them
[04:21] <underdog5004> there may be another option too
[04:22] <scotty> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: I think so. How do I check?
[04:23] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: usually you can just do a mysql -- version
[04:23] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> or so on
[04:24] <scotty> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: When I do that, I get the following error:
[04:24] <scotty> mysql -- version
[04:24] <scotty> err, whoops
[04:24] <scotty> wrong paste
[04:24] <Alonea> ok, the instructions I am looking at tells me to do modprobe ov51x, but there isn't a ov51x module and I am trying to find the right name without success. is there a way to get a list of modules you can add?
[04:24] <SubOne> is there any way to hide the blinking cursor on non-editable text?
[04:24] <scotty> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[04:24] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> its probably not installed then??
[04:24] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> i'd just make sure its installed thru apt-get and try again
[04:25] <scotty> So sudo apt-get install mysql?
[04:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: cos your output should be similar to: mysql  Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.13, for suse-linux (i686) using readline 5.0
[04:25] <genii> perhaps mysqld is not running
[04:25] <intelikey> i have an issue !   -bash: no job control in this shell
[04:25] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]
[04:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> genii: well when eh tries to launch it it doesn't launch so i am thinking its not installed
[04:26] <intelikey> how can i enable job control ?
[04:26] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> genii: it sounds like hes trying to run it without ever installing it
[04:26] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> genii: optionally it may be that his install wasn't correct? cos the error is odd.
[04:27] <genii> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: Yes, exactly. Also mysql must be run as user mysql. Any other owner will make it fail too
[04:27] <jarn> Is it possible to convert MP3s to WMAs? My MP3 player is full so
[04:27] <tulio__> underdog5004: tks man
[04:27] <jarn> I'd like to convert it to WMA to be smaller.
[04:27] <underdog5004> tulio__, np
[04:27] <Alonea> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/build M=/home/alonea/ov51x-jpeg-1.0.0 modules_install
[04:27] <Alonea> could that line give me a clue?
[04:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> jarn: why would you transcode?
[04:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> second
[04:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> why would you transcode into a proprietary format?
[04:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> why not just make more compressed mp3's?
[04:28] <intelikey> jarn can you use .ogg ?
[04:28] <scotty> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: Here's my Konsole text. As you can see, there's an error. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13816/
[04:28] <jarn> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: Because wma can be smaller than mp3 with equal quality.
[04:28] <jarn> intelikey: No. Only MP3 or WMA.
[04:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> you're transcoding though
[04:28] <SubOne> i get a flashing cursor next to text whenever the "text box" is the currently active item. For example, if the body of a page in firefox is active (allowing for scrolling with the mousewheel) I get a blinking cursor the size of the element the cursor is next to. This is quite annoying at times and is not just in firefox. I was wondering if there is a way to turn it off if the text is not editable.
[04:29] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> if you transcode your quality will go down regardless of your format choice
[04:29] <vito>  como veo las particiones de mi disco! para ver cuantas particiones tiene!?
[04:29] <jarn> Yes, but it will go down less.
[04:29] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> as mp3 isn't lossless, it'll be more lossy after being transcoded.
[04:29] <genii> transcoding almost always loses some quality
[04:29] <tulio__> underdog5004: do you know what SMP means?
[04:30] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: looks like dependency issues
[04:30] <underdog5004> Symmetrical Multi Processing, I think
[04:30] <scotty> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: what do I need to do?
[04:30] <underdog5004> or simultaneous
[04:30] <intelikey> i have an issue !   -bash: no job control in this shell
[04:30] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: if you look at the first part of this paste you made
[04:30] <moby_python> are WMA files smaller for the same quality?  I almost don't believe that.
[04:30] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: apt is telling you there are a lot of packages that are preventing the proper versions from installing
[04:31] <scotty> Ah
[04:31] <scotty> So I should use sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[04:31] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:"
[04:31] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: that should do the trick
[04:31] <jarn> moby_python: I read that they did.
[04:31] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> because alllllll of those packages are stopping you from properly being able to install the full versions
[04:31] <scotty> Ah, okay, thanks.
[04:32] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: eer hold on
[04:32] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> genii: can you look at that paste?
[04:32] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> its saying xserver-xorg is no longer required... that doesn't seem right to me.
[04:32] <Alonea> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Run_a_Sony_EyeToy_Camera  thats the page I am looking at
[04:32] <genii> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: Can you post it? Not on my scroll , i got here later
[04:32] <scotty> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13816/
[04:32] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> genii: it looks like it wants his entire distro to self-destruct lol
[04:33] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> it wants to remove EVERYTHING related to his gui and some kernel stuff
[04:33] <chemicalvamp> oh my gosh, i cant get my driver, is it the site? ftp://<IP_ADDRESS>/cn/wlan/rtl8185l/x64-8185(1060)(0407).zip can somebody try it and see if its just me?
[04:33] <genii> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: scotty 's paste is the one?
[04:33] <scotty> Glad I stopped it, t3hwiz0rd-ibook
[04:33] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> yes
[04:33] <genii> OK, looking
[04:33] <scotty> It removed two things, but they were both programs. digikam and one other
[04:33] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: i didn't notice what it was asking to remove until i saw xorg slip by my eye
[04:34] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> the reason its saying it failed was dependency issues
[04:34] <draik> Does anyone here use Ekiga?
[04:35] <Kevlar_Soul> CAN I delete all of THIS: http://i5.tinypic.com/29z4z15.png            ?
[04:35] <draik> Also, I'm trying to install openGoGear, but a dependency was replaced. I installed the replacement and openGoGear won't install. Any clues?
[04:35] <genii> OK, looked at it. Lemme think about some approaches now :) I need some coffee to think with and i'll be bck to tackle it
[04:35] <intelikey> scotty it's a broken package and/or package management system.    i can tell you a work around to get it installed.
[04:35] <scotty> Thanks, genii
[04:36] <scotty> intelikey: will it hurt anything?
[04:36] <Kevlar_Soul> ?
[04:36] <specialbuddy> I tried to upgrade to Feisty and now I get a command line when I try to start up kubuntu
[04:36] <genii> intelikey: I found on feisty for instnce I tried to remove gdm and it takes down the whole xserver with it for some reason. All the deps are screwy as hell
[04:36] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> specialbuddy: sweet, make it a server now :-P jk
[04:37] <specialbuddy> pretty much
[04:37] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> specialbuddy: command line is still good long as its a fully booted os you can always fix it
[04:37] <specialbuddy> not sure how I can fix it though
[04:37] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> specialbuddy: did you make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed?
[04:37] <genii> They should have sub-deps and super-deps. Sub deps run under the app super deps would be prerequisites to the package but not uninstalled with it
[04:37] <specialbuddy> I had edgy installed and working
[04:38] <specialbuddy> is there anyway I can get that back?
[04:38] <intelikey> scotty as root#      mv /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d . ;ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d ;dpkg --configure -a ;rm /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d ;mv invoke-rc.d /usr/sbin/
[04:38] <genii> scotty intelikey can likely help quite a bit here :) He's rescued some pretty badly broken boxes
[04:38] <Kevlar_Soul> What is "Orbit Laptop"?
[04:38] <Kevlar_Soul> !Orbit
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about orbit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <scotty> intelikey: Will it harm anything?
[04:39] <intelikey> yes
[04:39] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> genii: hes on a lopsided boat in bad water lol
[04:39] <draik> Where can I find out resolutions for packages that have been updated or replaced?
[04:39] <scotty> intelikey: What will it hurt?
[04:39] <Tonren> Is there a way to rename in Konqueror WITHOUT altering the extension
[04:39] <specialbuddy> I don't think apt even works on my computer anymore
[04:39] <Tonren> ?
[04:40] <specialbuddy> everytime I try to upgrade kubuntu something goes wrong
[04:40] <draik> Tonren, you can change any file name and leave the extension.
[04:40] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> the results are in, google declairs the winner! 2,700,000 for windows sucks. , 1,720,000 for linux sucks
[04:40] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> windows wins! lol
[04:40] <genii> scotty At any rate you should do an:  sudo apt-get check    to look for messed up dependecies
[04:40] <Tonren> draik: Yeah, but when you hit F2, it highlights the extension, so you have to re-type it
[04:40] <intelikey> scotty i said it's a work around to get things installed.   it's not a cure.      it will temporarly disably starting/stoping of init scripts via the  /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d script.
[04:41] <intelikey> genii it's going to have some right now.
[04:41] <intelikey> he's got a partly installed package
[04:41] <draik> Tonren: Right. So just add it back. Or, just use "krename" and select to keep the extension. Saved me a bunch of time when I had to change the name of over 1000 pictures.
[04:41] <Tonren> "krename", got it
[04:41] <specialbuddy> intelikey, is there anyway to get my system back after a screwed up upgrade to fiesty?
[04:41] <genii> intelikeywith --fix-missing   or --fix-broken   may help
[04:41] <scotty> intelikey: What would a cure be?
[04:41] <draik> Tonren: It's in the repos.
[04:42] <draik> !krename
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krename - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <intelikey> genii it wont'
[04:42] <genii> inteliky So need to set-state on the questionable package with dpkg then
[04:42] <intelikey> specialbuddy depends on what all it did and how much time and effort (and your skill level) you put into it.
[04:43] <intelikey> genii why not just finish installing it.
[04:43] <specialbuddy> well I think apt is messed up because it didn't recognize apt-get
[04:43] <genii> intelikey What is the main one you think ? hard to tell from the paste
[04:43] <scotty> intelikey: How do I finish installing it?
[04:43] <intelikey> scotty as root#      mv /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d . ;ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d ;dpkg --configure -a ;rm /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d ;mv invoke-rc.d /usr/sbin/
[04:44] <SADBFL> OH SNAP ITS ME
[04:45] <genii> intelikey: You figure his rc.d system is messed?
[04:45] <intelikey> genii it's not hard to tell.  line 23 - 27  tell the whole story
[04:45] <genii> lemme look again :)
[04:45] <specialbuddy> should I take a live cd and try to fix the problems?
[04:45] <intelikey> genii no i figure that the  28  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:45] <SABDFL> HELLO KIDS
[04:45] <intelikey> the postinstall script is in need of a rewrite.
[04:46] <genii> intelikey Well, from that it looks like rc.d is working fine but that it fails to start the server due to dependency issues with it
[04:46] <scotty> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13819/
[04:46] <scotty> I get errors
[04:46] <intelikey> genii yes and the dependancies wont be installe untill that package is installed so it's a recursive loop of errors.
[04:47] <intelikey> scotty you didn't do it as root.
[04:47] <genii> intelikey: But then wouldn't it make more sense then to purge the package and then reinstall
[04:47] <intelikey> sudo -i
[04:48] <intelikey> genii you can't install  and trying to "reinstall" what can't be installed is futile
[04:48] <genii> scotty something occurs to me. Do you actually have a working apache2 on your box already?
[04:48] <scotty> Yes
[04:48] <scotty> With PHP
[04:49] <genii> scotty Just checking :) I've seen ppl try to install libapache2-some-thing when no webserver yet :)
[04:49] <intelikey> scotty did it finish without errors now ?
[04:49] <scotty> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13820/
[04:50] <voorhees86> how i configure the wireless card intel ipw 2200??
[04:51] <intelikey> scotty   find / -name invoke-rc.d 2>/dev/null
[04:52] <intelikey> you need to put it back in  /usr/sbin   now.
[04:52] <osiris> i know this might not be the place, but is it possible to make apache redirect a 404 to a different url ?
[04:52] <scotty> intelikey: /home/scotty/invoke-rc.d
[04:53] <intelikey> scotty sudo mv /home/scotty/invoke-rc.d  /usr/sbin
[04:53] <ffffu> hi i have a script that rsync one computer's files to another in crontab .. when it run the script, wouldn't rsync prompt for password ? why does existing one still work
[04:53] <intelikey> and you are all done.    note the mysql server is not loaded you should be able to do an sudo /etc/init.d/mysq* start
[04:54] <intelikey> you can do a sudo apt-get -f install    just to make sure all is well in the package world.
[04:55] <scotty> intelikey, it still fails to start
[04:55] <intelikey> sudo apt-get -f install
[04:55] <intelikey>  just to make sure
[04:56] <voorhees86> how i configure the wireless card intel ipw 2200??
[04:56] <intelikey> !wifi | voorhees86
[04:56] <ubotu> voorhees86: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:56] <jhutchins> osiris: Yes, that's configurable, in fact it's in the comments of the httpd.conf file.
[04:56] <draik> Jucato: Here there. How goes it?
[04:57] <osiris> jhutchins, thank you
[04:57] <scotty> intelikey: It still fails.
[04:57] <Jucato> draik: doing ok. studying C++ and packaging :)
[04:57] <jhutchins> osiris: Helpful docs at apache.org as well.
[04:57] <draik> Jucato: Nice.
[04:57] <osiris> just dont have the time for that part
[04:57] <osiris> but thx anyway.
[04:57] <intelikey> scotty ok.  and the package status is "all is well" ?
[04:57] <Jucato> thanks draik
[04:57] <Jucato> :)
[04:57] <jhutchins> osiris: In that case, just turn your site over to the hackers now and don't worry about it.
[04:58] <scotty> intelikey:
[04:58] <osiris> if they want it that bad, eh screw it
[04:58] <scotty> root@scotty-laptop:~# sudo apt-get -f install
[04:58] <scotty> Reading package lists... Done
[04:58] <scotty> Building dependency tree
[04:58] <scotty> Reading state information... Done
[04:58] <scotty> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[04:58] <jhutchins> osiris: Might as well run iis.
[04:58] <osiris> i keep it updated.  im not the greatest, but it works
[04:59] <jhutchins> Open source software isn't free as in free beer.  It requires involvement, learning, attention.
[04:59] <jhutchins> That's why it's so powerful.
[04:59] <jhutchins> I don't want to have to learn anything == run windows.
[04:59] <jhutchins> Let others do the thinking for you.
[04:59] <osiris> well, that is kinda miss-nomer
[05:00] <osiris> if you run windows, you gotta read more to remove the viri
[05:00] <jhutchins> Or just let them run, after all, someone must know what they're doing.
[05:00] <intelikey> scotty ok your packages are all streight,   as to mysql  i have no dias there.   genii knows sql  maybe ask him.
[05:00] <poningru> guys can we move this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:00] <jhutchins> I'm sure that nice Mr. Gates wouldn't release anything that wasn't secure.
[05:00] <poningru> this is a support channel
[05:00] <jhutchins> Sorry.

[05:01] <poningru> no need to stop
[05:01] <genii> intelikey:  :)
[05:01] <poningru> just move it to that channel
[05:01] <scotty> genii: Any ideas?
[05:01] <osiris> wow, that got militant quick
[05:02] <genii> scotty Did you now try to run mysql and getting errors again after the packages got sorted out?
[05:02] <scotty> Genii: You mean trying to install it again?
[05:02] <genii> scotty Yes
[05:03] <scotty> genii: It says they're all at their latest version
[05:03] <genii> scotty and the mysql daemon is currently running?
[05:03] <intelikey>     and just a side note to genii the reinstall should work now as long as he doesn't remove all it's deps first,   that would put it right back in the same black hole
[05:03] <scotty> genii: How do I check (sorry, very green :P )
[05:04] <genii> scotty a fast way is just:   ps ax|grep mysqld
[05:04] <intelikey> pidof mysqld
[05:05] <scotty> genii: 10240 pts/6    R+     0:00 grep mysqld
[05:05] <chemicalvamp> stdin you around?
[05:05] <genii> the "ax" likely not needed, just habit on my part
[05:05] <genii> scotty So it's NOT running
[05:05] <scotty> Ah, how do I run it?
[05:05] <salsamonu> hi
[05:06] <genii> scotty so something then like:   sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld     (I forget if that is the exact name but you can   ls /etc/init.d for the exact one)
[05:06] <genii> may be mysql-server    or similar
[05:06] <intelikey>      pidof pidof ;man pidof & pidof man
[05:06] <salsamonu> i have a problem where when booting to kubuntu it keep showing udev_event_run :seq bla bla forked pid blabla, add/remove vc
[05:07] <intelikey> tab-complete it.
[05:07] <salsamonu> anyone have an idea ?
[05:07] <salsamonu> how to fix this
[05:07] <scotty> genii:
[05:07] <scotty> root@scotty-laptop:~# sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[05:07] <scotty>  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                 [fail]
[05:08] <genii> scotty Please, don't multiline paste ehre if at all possible :)
[05:08] <intelikey> salsamonu the init script  udev   seems to be in a loop condition
[05:08] <scotty> sorry
[05:08] <salsamonu> how to fix it ?
[05:08] <genii> scotty 2 lines aint too bad tho :)
[05:08] <salsamonu> i never touch that inet script
[05:09] <ubuntu> hello
[05:09] <scotty> genii: my bad, nontheless. any idea how to fix it, though?
[05:09] <ubuntu> can anyone help me use a live cd to fix my installation
[05:09] <intelikey> can you get me the exact error ?
[05:09] <genii> scotty Did you have some mysql databse before that worked? Or did you not/never set one up initially
[05:09] <intelikey> salsamonu ^
[05:09] <scotty> genii: I don't think I did.
[05:10] <salsamonu> yup
[05:10] <scotty> I've had trouble with mysql since I first tried to set it up
[05:10] <genii> scotty OK. Let me see if I can find a good walk-through tutorial for you then :)
[05:10] <scotty> genii: thanks
[05:11] <genii> scotty You on dapper edgy feisty ?
[05:11] <scotty> Edgy
[05:11] <genii> k
[05:11] <intelikey> hooray for horay
[05:11] <ubuntu> how do I restore a messed up feisty install back to edgy?
[05:12] <intelikey> ubuntu you drop the install cd in the tray and reboot....
[05:12] <genii> scotty and do you have a server install or regular desktop install?
[05:12] <salsamonu> how to fix init script udev ?
[05:12] <scotty> genii: regular desktop
[05:12] <genii> k
[05:13] <ubuntu> intelikey, well it was actually an upgrade
[05:13] <scotty> I'm trying to get MySQL up for Apache2 so I can start with my new book.
[05:13] <scotty> But I ran into problems
[05:13] <intelikey> ubuntu  not the answer you want i know.  but that's about all the choice you have on a down grade.
[05:13] <salsamonu> use apt-get scotty
[05:13] <ubuntu> a reinstall?
[05:13] <salsamonu> apt-get install apache2
[05:13] <salsamonu> apt-get install mysql-server
[05:13] <scotty> salsamonu: I have Apache2 and PHP installed already.
[05:14] <salsamonu> and then what is the error ?
[05:14] <scotty> I ran into problems with MySQL, and genii and intelikey have been helping me.
[05:14] <intelikey> salsamonu what's the error ?
[05:14] <salsamonu> apt-get --purge remove mysql*
[05:14] <salsamonu> then install mysql again
[05:14] <salsamonu> apt-get install mysql-server
[05:15] <scotty> Alright, I'll try
[05:15] <calamari> hi
[05:15] <salsamonu> and the worst thing is i still cannot find solution for it
[05:15] <scotty> I hope not
[05:15] <salsamonu> arghhh
[05:16] <calamari> how do I disable the bouncing logos that happen when loading an app?  I found it once and thought it was cute at the time, but now it's annoying and I can't find it anywhere :P
[05:16] <Jucato> calamari: Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol", go to Appearance -> Launch Feedback
[05:17] <kalorin> anyone know of a way to monitor the fan speed on a graphics card?
[05:17] <kalorin> I keep hearing the fan in my machine going faster and slower over and over
[05:17] <genii> Scotty Well, as a fast check try this:  sudo apt-get install mysql-admin       then follow the instructions here to set up a database http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-unix-creating-database-and-table/    afterwards you can try starting the mysql daemon again
[05:17] <calamari> Jucato: thanks!
[05:17] <intelikey> jucato on dapper wasn't that   kcontrol parifreals mouse   something     ?
[05:17] <scotty> genii: I'm trying salsamonu's suggestion right now.
[05:18] <Jucato> intelikey: don't really remember...
[05:18] <genii> scotty :)
[05:18] <genii> kalorin What I did was just rig my GPU fan to run off aux motherboard plug and then the mb monitors it
[05:19] <kalorin> I don't get it though
[05:19] <kalorin> all this card is doing is pushing my xdesktop right now
[05:19] <genii> kalorin: It will speed up or slow down depending on how hot it is running of course. That is normal
[05:19] <kalorin> not like I'm even doing dri stuff
[05:19] <kalorin> yeah but I've never noticed it running like this under windows
[05:19] <scotty> genii: salsamonu's suggestion worked :D
[05:19] <kalorin> or even before I went to kubuntu from xbuntu
[05:20] <kalorin> I ran xbuntu for about a month and never noticed this at all
[05:20] <kalorin> it's just odd
[05:20] <salsamonu> i'm sure u not install mysql-server packages
[05:20] <genii> scotty Good, yer off to the races now :) Tho I'd suggest looking at the site I posted, it's very educational as to how mysql works generally
[05:20] <genii> salsamonu:  Good call
[05:21] <salsamonu> arghhh the worst thing is my problem, i still cannot find solution for it
[05:21] <intelikey> hmmmm  Mem usage: 14/249 MB (5%)  right now.   i checked on my hoary box and it said   Mem usage: 8/94 MB (8%)
[05:22] <intelikey> salsamonu  you never did tell me what the error actually is...
[05:22] <salsamonu> i have a problem where when booting to kubuntu it keep showing udev_event_run :seq bla bla forked pid blabla, add/remove vc
[05:23] <intelikey> yes yes  we talked about that.   now what is  "bla bla"
[05:23] <salsamonu> numbers
[05:23] <salsamonu> it a number
[05:24] <Hobbsee> intelikey: why do you have a hoary box?
[05:24] <salsamonu> never the number is continously
[05:24] <intelikey> Hobbsee why not ?
[05:24] <salsamonu> i cannot login to desktop
[05:24] <Hobbsee> intelikey: because it's unsupported?
[05:24] <genii> Hobbsee:  Why not?
[05:24] <intelikey> salsamonu sudo /etc/init.d/udev stop
[05:24] <genii> But it runs lean :)
[05:24] <intelikey> Hobbsee i support it.
[05:24] <intelikey> :)
[05:25] <salsamonu> yup rite now i can do that
[05:25] <salsamonu> because rite now i'm login in single mode
[05:25] <Hobbsee> intelikey: ahh
[05:25] <Hobbsee> intelikey: as long as you do the security updates yourself, or dont need them, that's fine :)
[05:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> lol
[05:25] <philphoto> anyone using a scanner with SANE in Feisty?
[05:25] <intelikey> called /var/cache/apt/archives   genii
[05:26] <genii> intelikey :)
[05:26] <salsamonu> Apr  4 01:26:22 localhost udevd[11552] : udev_event_run: seq 121900 forked, pid [16818] , 'remove' 'vc', 0 seconds old
[05:26] <salsamonu> Apr  4 01:26:22 localhost udevd[11552] : udev_event_run: seq 121901 forked, pid [16819] , 'remove' 'vc', 0 seconds old
[05:26] <salsamonu> Apr  4 01:26:22 localhost udevd[11552] : udev_event_run: seq 121902 forked, pid [16820] , 'remove' 'vc', 0 seconds old
[05:26] <genii> philphoto To see if your scanner is being seen:       sudo scanimage -L
[05:26] <intelikey> Hobbsee i dont need them.  it's just something i play around on.   write scripts...
[05:26] <scotty> TAKE THAT, MYSQL!
[05:27] <scotty> MUAHAHAHA!
[05:27] <scotty> Thanks guys.
[05:27] <Hobbsee> intelikey: ahhh :)
[05:27] <scotty> You're all life savers :D
[05:27] <genii> scotty Thats one reason I've mostly switched to postgre now
[05:27] <intelikey> salsamonu that feisty ?
[05:27] <scotty> genii: what's postgre?
[05:27] <intelikey> is that ^
[05:27] <genii> scotty Another type of database system
[05:28] <scotty> Ah
[05:28] <salsamonu> yup
[05:28] <salsamonu> it's feisty
[05:28] <genii> scotty you can recover databses after a cold reboot for instance which sometimes will totally kill mysql
[05:28] <salsamonu> ocalhost udevd-event[14013] : udev_db_get_device: no db file to read /dev/.udev/db/%2fclass%2fdrm%2fcard0: No such file or directory
[05:28] <intelikey> salsamonu for want of more knowledge on that, i'm gona send you to   #ubuntu+1
[05:29] <salsamonu> ohh ya
[05:29] <salsamonu> forgot it
[05:29] <salsamonu> sorry
[05:29] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> whats a cold reboot?
[05:29] <salsamonu> thank for remind me
[05:29] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> i've heard of hard reboots... never cold ones
[05:29] <genii> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: unplugging the power cord
[05:29] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> ohhh
[05:29] <genii> :)
[05:30] <genii> Tho thats what I mainly call it, dunno if it's general slang LOL
[05:30] <ffffu> hi i have a script that rsync one computer's files to another in crontab .. when it run the script, wouldn't rsync prompt for password ? why does existing one still work
[05:31] <Daisuke_Ido> that's what i've always called it.  cold...
[05:31] <scotty> Genii: What would my MYSQL username be? I know my password ...
[05:32] <genii> scotty default is mysql     but examine that link i gave ages ago for better clues :)
[05:32] <compilerwriter> !source
[05:32] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[05:34] <compilerwriter> !repos
[05:34] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections.  And longer to type than   "!"
[05:38] <genii> ^intelikey
[05:38] <intelikey> yeah
[05:38] <genii> "if" is even really unnecessaary
[05:39] <philphoto> ok, I've tried installing sane-utils, even though I already have Xsane installed and still I have no scanner showing up.  Yes, it's plugged in.  and it worked just 5 days ago.
[05:39] <genii> "if !blah then blah"   could just be !blah dothis
[05:40] <genii> philphoto: See my first reply to your issue.
[05:40] <intelikey> blah || dothis
[05:40] <genii> intelikey :)
[05:40] <philphoto> did that.  "command not found"
[05:41] <genii> philphoto: Then:   sudo install sane-backends
[05:41] <philphoto> thanks I'll give it a try
[05:41] <philphoto> install: missing destination file operand after `sane-backends'
[05:42] <genii> philphoto sorry, wrong syntax I gave:)     sudo apt-get install sane-backends
[05:42] <genii> LOL
[05:42] <genii> forgot the "apt-get" part  very horrible of me
[05:43] <philphoto> I forgot apt-get myself.  thanks
[05:44] <philphoto> E: Couldn't find package sane-backends
[05:44] <intelikey> i use urpm for all my package management
[05:44] <nastume_> ok
[05:44] <nastume_> reboot
[05:44] <philphoto> I don't understand since last week it was basically plug & play
[05:44] <intelikey> philphoto not plural
[05:44] <philphoto> gotcha
[05:45] <intelikey> !xsane
[05:45] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[05:46] <genii> philphoto I am not on a linux box right now so if the package names aren't the exact verbatim ones thats why. I can't just go check apt-cache for instance
[05:46] <intelikey> !sane-utils
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sane-utils - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <intelikey> !info sane-utils
[05:46] <ubotu> sane-utils: API library for scanners -- utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.18-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 324 kB
[05:47] <genii> philphoto: Anyhow, !info scanimage
[05:47] <genii> arg
[05:47] <genii> !info scanimage
[05:47] <ubotu> Package scanimage does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:47] <genii> ????
[05:47] <genii> wtf
[05:47] <markrian> Does KPDF offer a way to navigate bookmarks set by a user in a PDF document?
[05:47] <genii> ah likely part of a package LOL
[05:48] <intelikey> genii   urpmq scanimage  yelds    libsane - API library for scanners
[05:48] <intelikey> sane - scanner graphical frontends
[05:48] <intelikey> sane-utils - API library for scanners -- utilities
[05:48] <philphoto> I've got both
[05:50] <genii> philphoto so if you do at commandline:   sudo scanimage -L      it should show you what scanning devices it knows about
[05:51] <philphoto> hey, there it is
[05:51] <philphoto> of course sane says there are no devices installed
[05:52] <intelikey> i never did get that thing to scan to the computer
[05:52] <genii> philphoto: try:    sudo  sane-find-scanner -vv
[05:52] <intelikey> -w ?
[05:53] <genii> no, two v
[05:53] <intelikey> oh -v -v    hehhe
[05:53] <genii> extra verbose :)
[05:53] <intelikey> yeah i did that and it finds the brother then i try to run sane and it errors out with no device installed.
[05:54] <intelikey> but i gave up on that months ago
[05:54] <philphoto> lots of info.  mostly "...failed to open" lines.
[05:54] <philphoto> the scanner IS in there though.
[05:55] <genii> philphoto By default the X prograqms look to a generic /dev name like loop0 or so. But the device itself is some other name. That is usually the issue in this scenario
[05:55] <philphoto> I'm stumped.
[05:55] <intelikey> well i fixed the permissions problem... it couldn't access  ~/.elinks/     i didn't own it....    8*{
[05:55] <philphoto> scanimage -L said no scanners were identified
[05:56] <genii> philphoto Well, put it in the pastebin and I'll look at it
[05:56] <genii> (the output of -vv)
[05:56] <philphoto> thanks
[05:57] <philphoto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13827/
[05:57] <genii> intelikey The all in ones are a pain for the same reason all in one motherboards are. Even when everything works. But one component goes blooey and then yer out 3 functions
[05:58] <danny500> #ubuntu
[05:58] <genii> philphoto good, it sees your scanner :)
[05:58] <genii> at dev/sg2
[05:59] <danny500> Um, I'm trying to upgrade my MPlayer and I want to install a couple of skins for it and some codec but don't know how, any help/
[05:59] <genii> philphoto  so, for the moment to test (not a permanent solution):   make a link in dev.eg:   sudo ln-s /dev/sg2 /dev/loop0
[06:01] (ffffu/#kubuntu) is there a way?
[06:01] (intelikey/#kubuntu) that was different.       well i fixed the "no job control" issue too.    err actually just a work around
[06:02] (intelikey/#kubuntu) ffffu expect could auth for you
[06:02] <philphoto> ok.
[06:03] <genii> philphoto Did you do the link properly   then after the sudo scanimage -L    ?
[06:03] <philphoto> I think so.
[06:04] <philphoto> this is what I got: ln: creating symbolic link `/dev/loop0' to `/dev/sg2': File exists
[06:04] <intelikey> ffffu the syntax is something like    spawn blah ;expect 'blah blah' ;send 'blah blah blah'
[06:04] <genii> philphoto:  if you do:  ls /dev/loop*   does it show /dev/loop0  ?
[06:04] <philphoto> yes
[06:04] <intelikey> ffffu thats for a    #!/usr/bin/expect -f     script.
[06:04] <philphoto> and in COLOR too!  (whatever that means...)
[06:05] <genii> philphoto: Good :) and after that, still no recognised from the command    sudo scanimage -L       ?
[06:05] <philphoto> oh, I didn't realize I was supposed to keep running that one, sorry.
[06:05] <genii> philphoto: The different colour indicates it is a link
[06:05] <philphoto> yup, it shows the scnner
[06:06] <genii> Good. thats the problem then
[06:06] <philphoto> which means?
[06:06] <philphoto> this is all way fast for me on only my 10th day of Linux immersion
[06:06] <genii> Set up your scanning program to use /dev/sg2 as the device
[06:07] <philphoto> I can't even open it though to configure it
[06:07] <philphoto> that's the big problem I have.  let me see if I can now
[06:07] <intelikey> ffffu if you do that   be advised that storing a password in an expect script can be a security hole.      send could be something like   send `sudo cat /etc/mypassphrase`     thus making the storage of the passwd a little more secure    (assuming you chmod it to 600 with owner root)
[06:08] <philphoto> still no scanner recognized by the utility.
[06:09] <philphoto> I'd like to be able to understand what changed between last week when it worked & today though.
[06:09] <wolferine> need a hand with a samba drive(linux to linux), I have mounted it, now I want to work with the permissions on the server (from the client), if I want to allow the client to read and write, where do I specify that, and do I have to change my fstab (mount) to reflect changes?
[06:09] <philphoto> you hardcore helping types out there are awesome, by the way.
[06:10] <genii> philphoto Maybe you plugged it into a different port than it found it on the first time
[06:10] <intelikey> philphoto look in /var/log/dpkg*   probably answered there.
[06:10] <genii> philphoto: It will want to use the last setting it found it on
[06:10] <genii> intelikey Yeah likey
[06:10] <philphoto> I DID hot swap the 1394 cables, but that was before I started runnning all those commands.
[06:11] <philphoto> but yeah, I'll switch them
[06:11] <genii> philphoto: Next time you boot, make sure the scanner is powered on before the computer gets atarted
[06:11] <genii> started, even :)
[06:12] <philphoto> right.
[06:12] <intelikey> xtarted ?
[06:12] <philphoto> I tried that earlier tonight too before I got on here.
[06:12] <genii> intelikey: There are some X tarts out there ;)
[06:13] <intelikey> you know  xtartx is a good script name... it catches the un-suspecting gui'r
[06:13] <intelikey> like  sduo for sudo   :)
[06:13] <genii> philphoto: Then I suspect the scanning program is just defaulting to trying the place it last found the thing without attempting to look elsewhere
[06:13] <ffffu> intelikey: i tried something new.. i copy the key in my id_rsa.pub into authorized_keys
[06:14] <ffffu> and somehow it work
[06:14] <Admiral_Chicago> ffffu: ssh + LP ?
[06:14] <intelikey> eeek yeah.  but that makes full access for all ssh activity
[06:15] <ffffu> yeah ssh but what's LP?
[06:15] <ffffu> didn't know rsync is linked with ssh hehe
[06:15] <intelikey> ffffu yes it uses the ssh protocal
[06:15] <philphoto> so would I mount /dev/sg2 then?
[06:15] <ffffu> yeahh thxx
[06:16] <philphoto> or is that just a location for the scanner utility to look?
[06:16] <genii> philphoto: Another thing to try as well, if you hotswap cables etc. Is to turn off the scanner then power it back on after. Sometimes the system will autodetect it and adjust accordingly. As opposed to just leaving it on while switching the cables then trying to access it again
[06:16] <philphoto> I think I'm going to try the big reboot.
[06:16] <genii> philphoto: Thats just a place for the scanner utility to look :) don't try to mount that!
[06:16] <philphoto> right
[06:17] <philphoto> don't worry, I still can't mount any devices to save my life anyways
[06:18] <wolferine> need a hand with a samba drive(linux to linux), I have mounted it, now I want to work with the permissions on the server (from the client), if I want to allow the client to read and write, where do I specify that, and do I have to change my fstab (mount) to reflect changes?
[06:18] <intelikey> ffffu let me correct my self.   rsync uses  rsync protocal for file transfer   and ssh for authentication mechanics   i believe.
[06:18] <genii> philphoto: If you wanna reboot I'll hang here to help more if need be after
[06:18] <philphoto> thahnks!
[06:18] <genii> philphoto: np
[06:19] <genii> wolvThe first question that comes to mind is why are you using a linux-linux samba in the first place
[06:19] <wolferine> genii because it works
[06:20] <wolferine> i answered yours, take a stab at mine
[06:20] <intelikey> anyway ssh and rsync are full of shared code
[06:20] <[pyro] > hey guys. Has anyone had an install freeze at "Installing Boot Loader" ? Im installing on a raid 5 and it seems to always lock up there. I can kill the process and the installer throws up an error then gos back to the main menu, when i try and install the boot loader again (grub) it stops. Tailing the syslog file it says its probing the BIOS for devices, and that it will take a while.. but i think over an hour is a little too long :)
[06:21] <[pyro] > im using the alternate install cd
[06:21] <genii> wolferine: The likely place where this is in the smb.conf file under what share mount priveledges are mapped to
[06:21] <genii> and other things like guest ok   and so on
[06:21] <wolferine> [pyro] , did you check that the CD is good?
[06:21] <genii> "man smb.conf" is long and detailed ;)
[06:21] <wolferine> yeah, so what do I need to set to allow the connection to be read/writeable?
[06:21] <[pyro] > wolferine: yep CD passes the check test ok
[06:22] <[pyro] > wolferine: did a memory test too, its ok as well
[06:22] <wolferine> just read only = no and writable = yes
[06:22] <intelikey> !grub | [pyro]
[06:22] <ubotu> [pyro] : grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:22] <wolferine> or just writable = yes
[06:22] <genii> wolferine: On a network no one else can get to just map any username to some username on the server which is allowed to write in that dir which is the samba share
[06:22] <intelikey> [pyro]  maybe you can install grub as if you were recovering it.  ^
[06:23] <wolferine> genii not sure I understand you
[06:23] <genii> wolferine: No, writeable = yes   is not enough. The usernames must still either get remapped or be the same etc etc
[06:23] <wolferine> the usernames are the same
[06:23] <[pyro] > intelikey: i was goign to do that, but not sure how to mount the raid array off a boot cd
[06:23] <philphoto> no change
[06:23] <nyinge> How do you take screen shot in kde?  Pressing "PrintScrn" shows no dialogue at all.
[06:24] <genii> wolferine: <sigh> Hangon I'll parse the smb.conf manual for you and distill it out. But it's a step you should be doing :)
[06:24] <philphoto> thanks for the help though, all of you.
[06:24] <intelikey> [pyro]  it should be mounted on  /target already
[06:24] <wolferine> genii, as long as I know its on the smb.conf end, I can do it
[06:24] <wolferine> but what else do I need to change?
[06:24] <wolferine> fstab ?
[06:24] <intelikey> [pyro]  you are still at the installer are you not ?
[06:24] <[pyro] > yes
[06:25] <intelikey> [pyro]  check /target
[06:25] <[pyro] > ok
[06:25] <genii> wolferine: OK good then. Simplest way is just put a guest ok   entry   then a map guest entry. Map the guest to some username on the server which has write auth to that directory
[06:25] <philphoto> another question: does everyone who's running Feisty have an error on startup?
[06:26] <genii> wolferine: No. fstab has no part in this. It's all in the smb.conf
[06:26] <wolferine> genii can you stop using my username in your response, please?
[06:26] <intelikey> philphoto question too broad for answers
[06:26] <genii> wolferine: No
[06:26] <philphoto> that's how you keep the messages separate wolferine
[06:27] <wolferine> i asked nicely
[06:27] <philphoto> error is "KDesktop: The application for the file process failed on startup"  or something very much like that
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> someone know of a paint bucket option in Inkscape to fill in a color?
[06:28] <genii> wolferine: I know, yes. Sorry if my response seemed rude. Was not intentional. Just that it makes logs much easier to parse and also if I put some instruction without saying who shjould execute it, there could be large mayhem
[06:28] <nonuda_> how do i setup my workgroup?
[06:29] <intelikey> oh krap.  i just did an lsmod.....   i have to clean out some of the junk in this kernel.....
[06:29] <ffffu> is there a way to restore files that i rm * ????????????
[06:29] <wolferine> genii thanks for you help, pls dont use my nick anymore
[06:29] <wolferine> thanks
[06:29] <ffffu> in root
[06:29] <ffffu> argh
[06:29] <ffffu> !restore
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <intelikey> ffffu what fs type ?
[06:29] <ffffu> !recover
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <ffffu> ext3
[06:29] <intelikey> no
[06:30] <genii> LOL
[06:30] <ffffu> ext2?
[06:30] <nonuda_> currently i have setup shared folders in my ubuntu 6.10, but windows networking detect my my workgroup as "workgroup", how do i change it?
[06:31] <intelikey> yes if you stop all writing at once.     alt+SysRQ+u
[06:31] <philphoto> genii: you can use mine twice if you want.
[06:31] <ffffu> its impossible to restore the files i rm?
[06:31] <genii> philphoto:  :)
[06:31] <intelikey> not on ext3 ffffu
[06:31] <philphoto_philph> dang!  almost had it
[06:32] <genii> philphoto:  At any rate, if you are not planning to move the scanner around on the cables a lot, you could make a small script to just create a link in /dev
[06:32] <intelikey> the think that makes most like ext3 is the reason you can't.    the "journal"
[06:32] <wolferine> can someone help me with samba shares?
[06:33] <intelikey> !samba | wolferine
[06:33] <ubotu> wolferine: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:33] <wolferine> !swat
[06:33] <wolferine> !swat | wolferine
[06:33] <genii> nonuda_: open the smb.conf   file in an editor with root privelege and change where it says WORKGROUP to whatever you like
[06:33] <intelikey> !info swat
[06:33] <ubotu> swat: Samba Web Administration Tool. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 739 kB, installed size 2052 kB
[06:34] <genii> intelikey: Good call
[06:34] <nonuda_> genii, thanks
[06:34] <genii> nonuda_: np :)
[06:34] <intelikey> but packagemanager wise
[06:34] <wolferine> does SWAT make changes to fstab as well?
[06:35] <ffffu> i'm dead
[06:35] <philphoto> I guess.  I'd rather it work like it should.  *pondering what could have changed"
[06:35] <genii> philphoto: You want, I'll make a small one for you and pastebin it. then you just put it in /etc/init.d  and make it executable
[06:35] <intelikey> ffffu what did you rm anyway ?    and how did you rm them/it ?
[06:37] <intelikey> ffffu you said "in root"  so i assume you did   sudo rm <something>   ?
[06:37] <wolferine> genii,  please, I dont want to add you to ignore
[06:37] <wolferine> i have asked twice nicely
[06:37] <intelikey> genii you have to play with fstab to learn linux,  every new bi knows that.
[06:37] <philphoto> sounds complicated for this n00b.  but I'll give it a try
[06:37] <genii> wolferine: Won't bother me a bit :)
[06:38] <intelikey> wolferine so ignore us.
[06:38] <wolferine> intelikey, excuse me?
[06:39] <intelikey> wolferine or you could turn off the beep feature in your irc client.
[06:39] <wolferine> intelikey, yours assuming alot
[06:39] <intelikey> wolferine yes     so what did i miss ?
[06:39] <genii> intelikey: What bothers me is I've already told him how to solve his issue but he is unwilling
[06:40] <intelikey> genii yeah i know.
[06:40] <genii> philphoto OK gimme a minute
[06:40] <intelikey> genii i don't often pull the /ignor out   but i make exceptions now and then....
[06:41] <genii> intelikey: Same here
[06:42] <nonuda_> damn..i can't find smb.conf, genii, where is it?
[06:42] <genii> nonuda_:  /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:43] <intelikey> boy!  that cold front went through, and the mercury went down so fast in the thermometer it busted the bottom out of the bulb...
[06:43] <nonuda_> ah...thanks again
[06:45] <kai> Does any one know how to remove the file sharing modulae
[06:45] <kai> I can't use it doens't display properly or anything
[06:45] <chemicalvamp> i got a problem, ok this is gonna be kinda confusing.. but here goes
[06:46] <chemicalvamp> im running a desktopcd of edgy, and im chrooted into my fiesty install (have to, to get my internet to work)
[06:47] <terran4000|away> hey ... does anyone try using raid in feisty?
[06:47] <chemicalvamp> im following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64 to fix it, but im getting confused
[06:47] <terran4000|away> !raid > terran4000|away
[06:47] <intelikey> chemicalvamp the running kernel is not installed in the chroot.
[06:49] <chemicalvamp> is the debian foler i need in /mnt/hda1/  ?
[06:49] <intelikey> i think maybe you should dl any and all files needed, including that html doc  and boot into the system you are fixing.  then fix it.
[06:50] <chemicalvamp> where is the debain folder i need to find to continue?
[06:50] <kai> any assitance
[06:51] <kai> ..file saring not working, is there way i can restarted the module
[06:51] <terran4000|away> any one software raid with mdamd?
[06:52] <philphoto> my epson scanner was recognized by my system as a printer.  how odd.
[06:53] <intelikey> chemicalvamp the dir in Q is in the tar ball    when you untar the archive it will have a subdir
[06:53] <intelikey> i still think you would be better off building that from the running system.
[06:53] <zak_> can anyone suggest a good file sharing program [much too lazy to install limewire, and it eats up too much RAM] ?
[06:54] <kalorin> firefox?
[06:54] <intelikey> !frostwire | zak_
[06:54] <ubotu> zak_: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:54] <intelikey> !ktorents | zak_
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorents - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <intelikey> !ktorent | zak_
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <zak_> intelikey: frostwire eats up just as much RAM as it's sibling :)
[06:55] <philphoto> !ktorrent
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <intelikey> well my arent you special ubotu
[06:55] <kalorin> zak, try firefox :)
[06:55] <philphoto> wow, didn't know it with either spelling
[06:55] <zak_> heh
[06:55] <zak_> i think i'll just use lime/frostwire
[06:56] <intelikey> !info ktorrent
[06:56] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1154 kB, installed size 5032 kB
[06:56] <chemicalvamp> intelikey yes i right clicked, did extract here the new folder doesnt have a debian directory
[06:57] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> anyone know why kubuntu live cd will mount an ntfs driver but has it locked out so that i cannot access it?
[06:57] <intelikey> chemicalvamp well that's what the wiki is telling you.
[06:57] <intelikey> !p2p | zak_
[06:57] <ubotu> zak_: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[06:58] <chemicalvamp> intelikey its a source.. do i hve to like compile it?
[06:58] <twiztr> How do I restart KDM without rebooting the computer?
[06:58] <stdin> twiztr: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:58] <intelikey> chemicalvamp yes that's why it said install build-essential and all the other krap
[06:59] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: what do you mean you can't access it? can't write or can't even read ?
[06:59] <intelikey> chemicalvamp that's also why i said do it from the running system not a chroot.
[06:59] <intelikey> building source is haphazerd enough without adding a chroot and different kernel versions...
[06:59] <chemicalvamp> intelikey tempting, but i had to do alot more then just chroot to get this to where it is
[06:59] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> stdin: cant' even read
[07:00] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> stdin: in konq its got a lock, in term it says denied
[07:00] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: how did you mount it?
[07:00] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> stdin: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /windows
[07:01] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: try: sudo mount /dev/hda2 -o remount,umask=0000
[07:01] <intelikey> :)
[07:01] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: you'll need the umask to access it
[07:01] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> its the livecd
[07:01] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> so isn't the default like 1000
[07:02] <intelikey> :)
[07:02] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: not uid, umask
[07:02] <intelikey> :)
[07:02] <stdin> intelikey: what you smiling about? :P
[07:02] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> what is the umask on the live cd?
[07:03] <intelikey> while this is highly entertaining.  i must go do rounds....   lol
[07:03] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: don't know, what's "ls -ld /windows" show ?
[07:03] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd-ibook  umask is the "user mask" that will be set on the mounted device.  has nothing to do with  uid " user idintigication "
[07:03] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> stdin: i got it with uid of 0000
[07:04] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: uid 0000 ??
[07:04] <stdin> umask, you mean?
[07:04] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> yes
[07:04] <chemicalvamp> intelikey is there a way to do this te way i want?
[07:05] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: they are very different things, umask modifies permissions, uid sets the owner
[07:06] <genii> Weird it keeps telling me I'm spamming the pastebin
[07:07] <stdin> genii: does that to me too sometmes, even when I haven't used it in days
[07:07] <genii> stdin Got it now but very odd
[07:07] <genii> philphoto Still here?
[07:09] <philphoto> yup
[07:10] <genii> philphoto Cut and paste from here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13836/    into some text editor. Save the file with name of  scanlink   into /etc/init.d   and then do:   sudo chown root:root /etc/init.d/scanlink && sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/scanlink
[07:10] <terran4000> anyone here use Raid?
[07:11] <genii> philphoto: It will make a symlink on boot to your actual scanner if it doesn't already exist. Also echos back what it is doing etc
[07:11] <Jucato> !caps | SOLLOG_HELPED
[07:11] <ubotu> SOLLOG_HELPED: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:11] <SOLLOG_HELPED> thanks Jucato
[07:12] <stdin> SOLLOG_HELPED: please don't spam the channel
[07:12] <Jucato> SOLLOG_HELPED: please stop spamming and drop the caps
[07:12] <philphoto> save thousands of lives in the off topic chat
[07:12] <genii> A bot
[07:12] <philphoto> right
[07:12] <uda> !pastebin
[07:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:12] <Jucato> SOLLOG_KNEW: last warning
[07:12] <Jucato> stop spamming
[07:13] <genii> Jucato I'd just ban SOLLOG*
[07:13] <philphoto> SOLLOG PWNED!
[07:13] <genii> !opsnack
[07:13] <ubotu> Peanuts!
[07:13] <Jucato> Yum!
[07:14] <genii> :)