[01:34] <cmaloney> greg-g: Thanks. Will check them out
[11:03] <cmaloney> Good morning
[11:29] <rick_h_> morning
[11:32] <cmaloney> How's the day so far?
[11:33] <rick_h_> tired
[11:33] <rick_h_> timer every 2hrs to take the puppy out wheeee
[11:33] <cmaloney> Oh!   I MUST SMELL ALL THE THINGS!"
[11:38] <cmaloney> JoDee says she's jealous: she's so sweeeeeeet
[11:44] <cmaloney> How is Jordyn taking the new arrival?
[12:22] <rick_h_> cmaloney: she's jealous as can be and grumpy
[12:23] <rick_h_> the poor pup just wants to play but Jordyn is not a fan atm
[12:24] <rick_h_> cmaloney: but yea, she's really sweet so far. Passing all the tests. Have folks working on the bathroom and all the banging/etc yesterday didn't phase her. Ran the vacuum and she just curious looked on from 8-10ft away.
[12:24] <rick_h_> her temperment so far seems really really even keeled which is great
[12:32] <cmaloney> Nice!
[12:32] <cmaloney> Poor Jordyn. I hope she can learn to adopt Kona
[12:33] <rick_h_> Yea, in time I hope they'll play. Jordyn likes to try to get other dogs to play but this one is taking attention away
[12:33] <rick_h_> give it more than 2 days heh
[12:34] <cmaloney> Yeah, first day is always the day when folks are jealous of the "new guy"
[12:35] <rick_h_> Yea, it's going to be fun because the puppy needs all the training and jordyn is like "hey, I'm doing it already! Give me the treat!"
[12:35] <brousch> My friends just got a pomsky (pomeranian husky). It's like a stuffed animal
[12:36] <rick_h_> lol
[12:36] <rick_h_> that's an interesting mix
[12:48] <rick_h_> ok, had to look and now I regret it. That's just nuts! https://goo.gl/SMXsvA
[12:48] <cmaloney> OMG
[12:49] <cmaloney> Yes
[12:49] <cmaloney> It's almost like whenever you mix a Corgi with any breed it looks like a Corgi cosplay
[12:50] <rick_h_> lol
[12:58] <brousch> Supposedly it will reach 20lbs
[17:28] <waldo323> hope to see everyone who can make it to mug tonight
[17:31] <greg-g> that's kinda cute (pomsky)
[17:31] <brousch> It's very cute, and fluffy
[17:45] <Scary_Guy> looking forward to it waldo
[20:27] <jrwren> I need a job. Who wants to hire someone ?
[20:37] <rick_h_> jrwren: uros is hiring for casey's team?
[20:39] <jrwren> ugh.
[20:39] <rick_h_> :)
[20:39] <jrwren> sorry rick_h_, no thanks. :)
[20:40] <jrwren> I do miss all of those people though. Such great guys.
[20:40] <jrwren> and gal
[20:40] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, just had to mention it
[20:40] <jrwren> how is JAAS going? got customers?
[20:41] <cmaloney> jrwren: Ugh. Sorryot hear that.
[20:41] <cmaloney> jrwren: If you feel like it send me your resume / cv and I can pass it along tonight at MUG
[20:42] <cmaloney> Also I think Quicken Loans folks are looking for someone with Kubernetes experience
[20:42] <jrwren> maybe just pass it on to lmorchard, because I'd love to work for mozilla :p
[20:42] <cmaloney> I can put you in touch with Mat Piccinato
[20:42] <jrwren> I don't think i can bring myself to work for QL.
[20:42] <cmaloney> Yeah, no shit
[20:42] <cmaloney> Maybe we need to start the brain trust of redundant engineers
[20:42] <jrwren> I interviewed with QL 10yrs ago and the kool-aide vibe was too much for me.
[20:43] <cmaloney> consulting firm
[20:43] <cmaloney> Definitely
[20:43] <rick_h_> jrwren: so working on onboarding two "experts" basically folks that use JAAS as a platform for delivering stuff to customers
[20:44] <jrwren> rick_h_: cool! Glad to hear some stuff is finally panning out.
[20:44] <rick_h_> jrwren: there's also some openings I know of at DO. Alexis and Antonio went there and both have engineering spots open
[20:45] <jrwren> now THAT is a good idea. thanks rick_h_. I've been struggling to think of cool places to work.
[20:45] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, I keep up with them a bit and I hear nothing but good stuff come out of folks there


 hello, i learned that the virtualbox we usually use is not opensource but there s opensource option too, where can i get opensource virtualbox for lubuntu?
[16:51] <wxl> @tbs61 actually that's old news. it's the extension pack that's proprietary.
 @wxl [<wxl> @tbs61 actually that's old news. it's the extension pack that's proprietar …], when i run tails it warns me even thought i dont active that pack
[17:03] <wxl> @tbs61 their wiki references the "ose" (open source editon) which was something that *DID* exist but that was prior to version 4
[17:03] <wxl> !info virtualbox
[17:03] <wxl> ^ as you can see, that was a little bit ago
[17:03] <wxl> (10 years, actually)
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[17:04] <wxl> so you might want to go complaint at tails about that one
[17:04] <wxl> also, this isn't tails' support channel sooooooooo XD
 thanks for giving me an answer:)
[19:03] <slowstoop> whats the easiest way to run a desktop shortcut as root, say leafpad?
[19:19] <dax> wxl: did they resolve the issue that got it moved to multiverse in the first place ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1164654 ) or is that still a thing?
[19:19] <dax> ('cause that wasn't related to the extension pack; OSE was not dfsg-free even without it)
[19:23] <wxl> dax: right. that i don't know. fwiw i use the upstream repos.
[19:23] <dax> ah
[19:29] <wxl> !info virtualbox
[19:29] <wxl> yeah it is in multiverse because of the bios which is open source but not considered free
[19:29] <wxl> i doubt that will change
[19:30] <wxl> oh i'm sorry it's not the bios but the compiler used to build the bios
[19:30] <dax> well, it's open source, just requires a build environment that isn't
[19:30] <dax> yeah
[19:30] <dax> tricky situation
[19:31] <wxl> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#Watcom
[19:31] <wxl> the source code is required to be "deployed" by the license
[19:31] <wxl> and they define that as such:
[19:31] <wxl> 1.4 "Deploy" means to use, sublicense or distribute Covered Code other
[19:31] <wxl> than for Your internal research and development (R&D) and/or Personal
[19:31] <wxl> Use, and includes without limitation, any and all internal use or
[19:31] <wxl> distribution of Covered Code within Your business or organization
[19:31] <wxl> except for R&D use and/or Personal Use, as well as direct or indirect
[19:36] <dax> oh huh, it's actually OSI-approved and FSF-disapproved, and considered non-dfsg free for a different reason from the FSF disapproval. interesting, haven't seen one this wonky in a while
[19:36] <dax> anyways, i'm veering offtopic, will stop
[20:03] <slowstoop> whats the easiest way to run a desktop shortcut as root, say leafpad?
 not running GUI applications as root.
 Use Windows
 because that leads to all sorts of permissions issues
 Well I know my question is stupid but I hope I get answer that I love lubuntu but shifted to KDE neon coz it's too bloated with apps and libraries I don't need any way to remove before login in lubuntu or any minimal in stallion
[20:11] <slowstoop> ffs i just want an answer not a cheeky bot
 @tsimonq2
 @Daksh [Well I know my question is stupid but I hope I get answer that I love lubuntu bu …], Help me pls
[20:24] <wxl> @Daksh i didn't see a question in there.
 Ohh one question I didn't saw lubuntu 20.10 on official lubuntu but got this http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/HEADER.html is this for real
 @slowstoop [<slowstoop> ffs i just want an answer not a cheeky bot], if you only need sudo for leafpad, better use vim, nano or similar.
[20:48] <wxl> @Daksh we don't include it in the downloads because it's not released.