[03:30] <endra> mneptok: either you're not very clear or I'm very slow. Server version of what exactly?
[03:30] <Blindraven> Why is it that people always refer new people to openbox/fluxbox/sweet.f.a to new users - does it make them feel elitest/hardcore? because its pretty stupid. they are going to see their next.to.nothing desktop have no idea and insert that M$ disc in a flash.
[03:30] <jdong> endra: Ubuntu
[03:30] <mrj> bqmassey, well it was muay thai, but now, I just my job and have been too broke to afford it + the diet, etc. I pretty much lost all my gains after 2 months.
[03:30] <Dialntone> server version.. ?
[03:30] <jdong> endra: there is only a server version of Ubuntu -- it installs a minimal command-line install
[03:30] <ae88925> Dial: Fiesty is 7.04 and Gutsy is 7.10
[03:30] <endra> gerro: ah, well at this instant im installing xubuntu command line, isn't it the same thing/
[03:30] <Dialntone> gusty is better :)
[03:30] <mneptok> endra: the server version has no GUI. how would the server version of Ubuntu be different from Kubuntu in that case?
[03:31] <Shpook> Blindraven: lol, that happened to me when I first installed linux. I was completely turned off by fluxbox.
[03:31] <bottiger> sometimes my sound in feisty disapears. restarting alsa-utils doesn't work - what else can you try?
[03:31] <gerro> Blindraven: because reason people dislike M$ is because it runs things without them interfacing its best to have a desktop that does nothing without the users thinking of it
[03:31] <jdong> endra: yes, you can install a "minimal" mode on all the alternate CD's -- that's equivalent
[03:31] <mneptok> endra: instead of asking, go look at your actual download options
[03:31] <endra> mneptok: I do not know. I've never used ubuntu linux, or xubuntu. This is my first time.
[03:31] <bottiger> It's really annoying to reboot because of that
[03:31] <bottiger> NB: I'm running Kubuntu
[03:31] <endra> mneptok: will you relax a bit.   It detected my atapi device.  I am lazy is there an easy way to detect the right driver?
[03:32] <Blindraven> gerro, then, when they actually know what they are doing - they can make that choice
[03:32] <endra> jdong: well, I asked earlier if installing the CLI is the same as installing the server version and all he said was 'go get the server version and install open box and ...'
[03:32] <Shpook> I fall into that category
[03:32] <Dialntone> is there a speaker program i can play with for my on board speaker?
[03:32] <jdong> ramza3: writing CD's should work out of the box.
[03:32] <mrj> bqmassey, I f'ing loved it, my instructor was pretty famous and a really awesome guy to train with.
[03:32] <Flannel> endra: There's a version on the alternate CD that is a command line installation only.  Theres also a GUI install.  Both of these have a textmode installer.
[03:32] <mneptok> endra: you asked "Server version of Xubuntu?" that doesn't exist. people are helping you for free. do them the courtesy of basic research.
[03:32] <gerro> Blindraven: umm guy I was talking to is an elitisttard and fixing lappy for his friend :/
[03:32] <Dialntone> i wanna create music with my speaker :)
[03:32] <bqmassey> mrj: was it expensive
[03:32] <gerro> endra: no offense
[03:32] <mrj> no, $100/mo
[03:32] <Blindraven> Shpook, heh, that sucks dude - your a perfect example :)
[03:32] <Shpook> I find gnome with just a few compiz effects and AWN to be perfect for me
[03:32] <ramza3> jdong: with xcdroast it mentions you should have a scsi driver
[03:32] <Shpook> lol thanks
[03:32] <javb> Any ideas on how to get Shockwave player working on firefox / ubuntu ?
[03:32] <Dialntone> i wanna create music with my on board speaker
[03:32] <jdong> endra: IRC lag -- he was answering a previous question... you're fine installing a minimal from the alternate
[03:32] <Blindraven> gerro, putting words in other peoples mouths is bad mmkay
[03:32] <Flannel> endra: You can simply use the CLI-only install from the Xubuntu alternate CD.  There's absolutely no reason to download the server ISO if you've already got an alternate
[03:32] <underwatercow> Pici: Aside from using firestarter, how can you disable iptables, or see that it's running?
[03:32] <mrj> bqmassey, have to buy gear and stuff, thats another $300 or so.. but that lasts you a long time
[03:32] <NemesisD> ae88925, ok i just had him grep dmesg, link is down on eth0
[03:32] <mneptok> javb: there is no Shockwave for Linux
[03:32] <ae88925> javb: Adobe has no shockwave for Linux
[03:33] <javb> mneptok, thanks.
[03:33] <jdong> ramza3: xcdroast is a really old program that may or may not have adapted to the newer 2.6.2x kernels and the updated burning infrastructure
[03:33] <javb> ae88925: Mmm, ok.
[03:33] <endra> mneptok: so why is it when I say 'I'm working on xubuntu' and you say 'download server version' then I say 'of xubuntu?' and you say 'don't use xubuntu' and I say 'server version of what then?' and you say 'download server version.'
[03:33] <endra> mneptok: either way, thanks.
[03:33] <Kudak> guys, i been doing some reading on 'vi' , it seems as an outdated wierd text editor, am i wrong ??
[03:33] <Sitherae> Im getting this error: Version 1.4.2 of the JVM is not suitable for this product. Version: 1.5 or greater is required.
[03:33] <endra> Flannel, jdong: thank you. I will do that now
[03:33] <ramza3> jdong: oh
[03:33] <gerro> Blindraven: yeah should learn that
[03:33] <Dialntone> is there a program where i can create music with my on board speaker' for linux ubuntu of course :)
[03:34] <jdong> ramza3: brasero, gnomebaker, and the thing built into Nautilus are all good GNOME options. There is also K3b , which is a favorite of GNOME and KDE users alike
[03:34] <endra> Thanks again for the help everyone, I'm already half way with installing the base system.
[03:34] <ae88925> NemesisD: Do you know what the computer is plugged into?  (switch, router, cable-modem, dsl router...)
[03:34] <Shpook> Oh yeah, I came here cause I had a problem. My kernel freezes about once every 15 minutes. Mainly when firefox is open and/or using the mouse scroll wheel. Anyone have this problem? And what logs would I check?
[03:34] <ramza3> jdong: gnome toster?
[03:34] <Kudak> guys, i been doing some reading on 'vi' , it seems as an outdated wierd text editor, am i wrong ??
[03:34] <jdong> !info gnomebaker | ramza3
[03:34] <ubotu> ramza3: gnomebaker: application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 995 kB, installed size 2972 kB
[03:34] <Flannel> Kudak: Hardly outdated, or wierd.  but yes, its a text editor.
[03:35] <jdong> Kudak: it's a text editor, and a powerful one at that
[03:35] <underwatercow> Kudak: It's a editor which is usable without X and is installed in some form on nearly all linux distributions, and is very powerful if used correctly
[03:35] <jdong> Kudak: I use it and prefer it to every other editor out there
[03:35] <Sitherae> Im getting this error: Version 1.4.2 of the JVM is not suitable for this product. Version: 1.5 or greater is required.
[03:35] <ae88925> Kudak: vi is the best editor ever
[03:35] <Blindraven> I have an AM26000 and 4 gig of ram, the difference for me between using KDE/Gnome with Beryl and every bell+whstile you can think of and absaloutely nothing on Openbox is.. guess what? so minute the decimal difference would have to be somewhere in the .000's - why? because the memory/swap is not used up in any case
[03:35] <fevel> ill guess nothing is outdated unless it has no users
[03:35] <Blindraven> the only reason I use fluxbox/openbox is when i making my own menus and screwing around
[03:35] <Dialntone> anyone know where i can get a program for linux so i can play music beeps from the speakers :)
[03:35] <mneptok> ae88925: that's clearly subjective
[03:35] <fevel> and ill tell you...vi has a lot of users
[03:36] <ae88925> Kudak: Furthermore, it is installed and available by default on virtually all UNIX flavors.  Learn it and you become powerful.
[03:36] <mneptok> Kudak: are you trying to use vi?
[03:36] <Blindraven> oh, and "posing"
[03:36] <underwatercow> Kudak: Some like using it for everything, for others, it's only used when a person can't open a normal editor.
[03:36] <sivik> ok, i just reinstalled ubuntu on this machine and now my speaking are crackling
[03:36] <jdong> Blindraven: totally untrue; you still have to factor in CPU overhead of your desktop environment and compositing stack in comparison with Openbox
[03:36] <Blindraven> jdong, obviously
[03:36] <Flannel> underwatercow: Theres no reason to use vim as a backup.  Thats why we have nano installed by default.
[03:36] <Shpook> sudo apt-get install answer-to-question.please
[03:36] <Blindraven> jdong, but for you to say untrue you'd have to of used my system :")
[03:37] <underwatercow> Flannel: it's better to know how to use vi as it's more versatile
[03:37] <Sitherae> How do I install Eclipse?
[03:37] <fevel> Shpook, seems like a hardware problem
[03:37] <Blindraven> jdong, my cpu/swap stack remains the same - i even ran nbench on every wm - same thing
[03:37] <jdong> Blindraven: I use powerful computers too, and can still feel the difference that a lightweight set of applications use
[03:37] <underwatercow> Flannel: besides, nano isn't all that great
[03:37] <tt_> Speaking of VI, if ubuntu 7.10 comes compiled w/o one of the default build options, is the only remedy to comple myself?
[03:37] <jdong> Blindraven: CPU/Swap are meaningless numbers. How about open up 25 new Firefox windows and see which WM finishes first?
[03:37] <ae88925> Sitherae:  Go to www.eclipse.org and download the CDT version.  (hope you have a good Internet connection)
[03:37] <tt_> in VIM, that is.
[03:37] <Blindraven> jdong, thats called elite imposed placebo getting to your head
[03:37] <Blindraven> jdong, joking joking :P
[03:38] <Flannel> Sitherae: install the 'eclipse' package (its in universe)
[03:38] <underwatercow> How can I tell if iptables is filtering, and how can I turn it off? without using a GUI that is.
[03:38] <marko-ubuntu> gotama, i use rsync to take backups   rsync -avS /path_from/ /path_to/
[03:38] <fevel> underwatercow, iptables -F
[03:38] <sivik> flannel: what am i missing that is screwing up my sound, it was working before
[03:38] <NemesisD> feh he bailed
[03:38] <mneptok> marko-ubuntu: no --delete ?
[03:38] <dxdt> what is the fastest image host to sign up for if I want to post a picture of BinBon's DVD spindle cage?
[03:38] <Flannel> underwatercow: No, it's not.  But for the random time where X breaks and you need to fix it, it's good to have a basic text editor.
[03:38] <NemesisD> ae88925, we will resume this at a later date :)
[03:38] <fevel> underwatercow, as inflush the rules
[03:38] <dxdt> whoops wrong channel
[03:38] <zcat[1] > rsync -r my_files server.somewhere.else:my_backup
[03:38] <Blindraven> jdong, I'll agree with one thing - menus FLY on openbox (faster then flux) I mean they are instant no mater what i do. By application load is the same, as is memory and cpu.
[03:38] <jdong> mneptok: why use delete on your first backup run?
[03:38] <ae88925> Flannel & Sitherae:  Does the Eclipse in the repositories have support for C++?
[03:38] <Sitherae> ae88925: I have it downloaded but how do I install it?
[03:39] <Flannel> ae88925: You need to install eclipse-cdt, but yes.
[03:39] <Shpook> fevel: that's what I was thinking, but it worked fine the previous times I reformatted. Last question: are there any particular logs I could check? I checked all of the logs in /var/log/ and didn't find anything
[03:39] <underwatercow> Flannel: that's true, but it's also not installed on a lot of other distros by default
[03:39] <marko-ubuntu> mneptok: i backup my webfolder wit that.. works nice.. shoud i delete old files ?
[03:39] <mneptok> jdong: so you can reuse the command from the shell history.
[03:39] <zcat[1] > rsync is nice
[03:39] <sivik> oh wait, it wasn't the same, this is a new hd
[03:39] <jdong> Blindraven: right -- the window manager's faster at its job...
[03:39] <Flannel> Sitherae: don't.  Use the repository version.
[03:39] <sivik> i mean mobo
[03:39] <jdong> mneptok: that works too
[03:39] <underwatercow> fevel: What if I don't want to flush the rules? lol
[03:39] <mneptok> marko-ubuntu: i don't know. should you?
[03:39] <jdong> mneptok: I just can't turst myself not messing up a path in the destination and then all rmrf hell breaking loose
[03:39] <jdong> mneptok: (and that's from several first-hand experiences)
[03:39] <mneptok> marko-ubuntu: but definitely do add --progress --stats
[03:39] <fevel> Shpook, you can try the system logs on system--->administration
[03:39] <Sitherae> Flannel: I've downloaded the Eclipse IDE for C/C++ Developers, but I dont know how to install it
[03:39] <jdong> marko-ubuntu: add --partial too
[03:39] <zcat[1] > I'd realyl like to use cvs or svn for backups... I might set it up sometime.
[03:39] <marko-ubuntu> i dont delete anything, just backup changes mneptok
[03:39] <matt1> anyone know of a list of ubuntu packages that work on older systems?
[03:39] <ae88925> Sitherae: Just unzip it and run the binary.  You might need to edit eclipse.ini
[03:40] <mneptok> jdong: well, i'm better at rsync syntax, i guess ;)
[03:40] <marko-ubuntu> jdong: okej, thx
[03:40] <Flannel> Sitherae: Install the package from the repository.  install the 'eclipse' package and the 'eclipse-cdt' package.
[03:40] <matt1> like weechat, htop, raggle, and mutt for example
[03:40] <jdong> mneptok: good for you. have a cookie :)
[03:40] <Shpook> fevel: okay cool, thanks, it's a starting point. After that, it's back to searching bug reports and google.
[03:40] <mneptok> jdong: can't doesn't pre-exist in the source so i can't put it in the target ;)
[03:40] <jdong> matt1: well you're just looking for lightweight alternatives to heavyweight programs then, right?
[03:40] <Shpook> You know, I'll have an orgasm the day HTMLKit releases a Linux version.
[03:40] <Sitherae> ae: Works thanks
[03:41] <Flannel> ae88925: Please don't recommend people go outside of package management when a perfectly good version is available.  You're only breaking their systems.
[03:41] <AngryElf> where does ubuntu keep mdadm configuration?
[03:41] <Wisteso> HTMLKit as in java?
[03:41] <juan11> the command iwlist is working, i see my access point, how do i connect to it ??
[03:41] <mneptok> Shpook: sudo apt-get install bluefish
[03:42] <ae88925> Flannel: Eclipse is well self-contained.  There is no 'install' so it won't break other components.
[03:42] <underwatercow> Is there a way to disable iptables without flushing the rules?
[03:42] <Shpook> I use bluefish now, it's a very close second, but in my windows days I fell in love with htmlkit
[03:42] <matt1> jdong:  i guess...  I'd like to know what's the best packages for an old Pentium system running a lite ubuntu system (openbox wm)
[03:42] <persian_x> I have a very serious issue concerning Ubuntu, i had high hoped of installing it but nothing seems to be working correctly, can someone help me please?
[03:42] <jdong> matt1: how about thinking of a task, then asking for a lightweight application that performs that task?
[03:42] <Flannel> ae88925: But it also won't upgrade when he upgrades, or get security patches automatically.
[03:42] <tkooda> anyone know why I still get "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" after using `apt-ftparchive` (made Packages{,.bz2,.gz} and Release{,.gpg} files; and have signing key in `apt-key list`) to make a simple apt source?  -it's like it's seeing (and fetching) my gpg, but ignoring it??
[03:43] <persian_x> I have a very serious issue concerning Ubuntu, i had high hopes of installing it but nothing seems to be working correctly, can someone help me please? PM me plz
[03:43] <Flannel> persian_x: you'll have to be more specific than "it doesn't work" for us to be able to provide any advice
[03:43] <matt1> jdong: good approach... I'm looking for a gaim replacement for gmail chat, hotmail chat etc)
[03:43] <juan11> how can i connect to an access point ???? i can see my access point already with iwlist scan , i cant connect to it,
[03:43] <Yowsers> im looking to build a vmware server with ubuntu as my host OS, if anyone can answer two quick questions for me please PM me thanks!
[03:43] <mneptok> persian_x: did you update?
[03:44] <mneptok> matt1: bitlbee
[03:44] <Dialntone> whats the command to do a test beep on the computer ?
[03:44] <jdong> matt1: search for 'naim' or another console IM client
[03:44] <jrib> !pm | Yowsers
[03:44] <Dialntone> using the internal speakers
[03:44] <ubotu> Yowsers: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[03:44] <persian_x> Flannel> I have 180gb, 120gb of which is taken by Vista and I want to shrink that size but I cant. I am on HP tx1000 notebook and I get errors everytime I try installing Ubuntu after boot, mostly it jams at 15% during setup
[03:44] <matt1> mneptok: jdong; thanks  will check them out!
[03:44] <MidnighToker> persian_x, have you checked your install media?
[03:44] <Flannel> persian_x: If it stalls midway through setup, its most likely a bad CD.  Did you check the CD for defects?
[03:44] <juan11> the command iwlist is working, i see my access point, how do i connect to it ??
[03:45] <Yowsers> can i give URLs in chat?
[03:45] <Shpook> check the md5 checksum, the ubuntu site has directions for that
[03:45] <Yowsers> i have my server build in a wishlist on newegg :)
[03:45] <matt1> so as far as anyone knows, no one has rated the ubuntu packages for system requirements?
[03:45] <persian_x> Flannel> I have burnt ubuntu on 3 dvds and 2 CD-RW , and all of them stall here and there
[03:45] <matt1> in one list
[03:45] <juan11> the command iwlist is working, i see my access point, how do i connect to it ??
[03:45] <MidnighToker> Yowsers, posting a link will be better than posting all the info and flooding the chanel
[03:45] <Shpook> lol Yowsers, I have many builds in my Newegg wishlists
[03:45] <maxd> #compiz config
[03:45] <Flannel> persian_x: The CD has a check CD for defects on it, you can verify burns with that.  Also, burn slower (4x)
[03:45] <Yowsers> shpook, haha yeah me 2
[03:46] <Shpook> persian-x, it could be a bad download also
[03:46] <Flannel> persian_x: You also might want to check the downloads (the MD5 of the iso)
[03:46] <matt1> persian_x: have you tried using the boot codes ... like noapm acpi=off and so on?
[03:46] <maxd> #compiz_fusion
[03:47] <persian_x> nope I am very new to Ubuntu i've been running on crappy windows for more than a decade and I really want to switch to Linux but I am having trouble familiarising myself with the codes and commands and the whole picture frame of GNU/Linux
[03:47] <Yowsers> i will be using VMWare Server (free version) with ubuntu as the host OS.. i plan on having 2 windows server 2003 instances and 1 windows xp instance... will this server suffice: http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=6755786
[03:47] <Yowsers> i will be running in raid 1
[03:47] <matt1> persian_x: some systems will result in a black screen when booting unless you use a boot code to improve the compatibility.. press f1 for help at the boot menu..
[03:48] <Dialntone> this is soo cool
[03:48] <Dialntone> apt-get install beep
[03:48] <Shpook> hmm...maybe my freezing issues are directly from firefox....an hour and still no freezing using swiftfox
[03:48] <Dialntone> apt-get install beep
[03:48] <Dialntone>  beep -f 1500.7 -r 10 -d 100 -l 900
[03:48] <nekcaikas> ..
[03:48] <Dialntone> its really cool :D
[03:48] <persian_x> matt1> which blackscreen are u talking about? I havent gotten any for now
[03:48] <Dialntone> im making music with my internal speakers
[03:49] <matt1> persian_x: where the live CD stalls during booting
[03:49] <Kudak> what does it mean "press a to append text" ??? --- what append means ?
[03:49] <endra> lange-pack-en depends on language-pack-en-base; however: Package language-pack-en-base is not installed. Errors were encountered while processing: language-pack-en. pkgsel failed with error code 1
[03:49] <endra> language*
[03:49] <Shpook> dialntone: on older motherboards, you used to be able to route sound through the internal speaker. sounded like crap, but it was cool. i don't think it's possible anymore though.
[03:50] <endra> This is from the installation CD (no network), how do I get language-pack-en-base to install?
[03:50] <Dialntone> Shpook,  i remember doing this with apple when i couldn't remember -- i wish there was a linux program out there that lets you make music
[03:50] <persian_x> Matt1> Live CD stalls during LOADING (mostly at: Loading hardware drivers OR Loading network interfeces) AND/OR during the actual setup (usually at 15%)
[03:50] <Kudak> VI Users: what does it mean "press a to append text" ??? --- what append means ?
[03:50] <tt_> stick on the end
[03:50] <MidnighToker> Yowsers, personally i'd want 1core per "computer" -so 3virtual+1 host. get atleast a dual core board that supports dual core processors (or wait and put 4x4core AMD64s in)
[03:51] <persian_x> Btw, I have AMD64 and I have downloaded 7.04 64-bit
[03:51] <tt_> Kudak: "a" puts you at the end of the current line and you can add on from there.
[03:51] <Kudak> tt_: oh i see, alright thx.
[03:51] <mmschnei> Hello, I am relatively new to Ubuntu (kubuntu actually). I was trying to get beryl working and I am having some issues, could some please let me know where I should be looking for support. I would great appreciate it. =)
[03:52] <persian_x> Also, I really want to take off Vista and start with a fresh HD with Ubuntu running only, but I worry that I might not be able to completly adapt myself and/or get stuck with hardware that I cannot find drivers for
[03:52] <tt_> Kudak: actually "a" adds at the current position, "A" adds to the end of the line
[03:52] <Yowsers> midnightoker: well it is a dual core amd proc, so 2 cpus... the mobo supports that proc.. and ubuntu can run on very little cpu, correct?
[03:52] <Kudak> tt_: yea figured it, thanks bro
[03:52] <eclecticus> persian_x: thats the problem I had when I tried to switch
[03:52] <Yowsers> midnightoker: the VMs will not be very cpu dependent
[03:52] <Dryft> le sigh.
[03:52] <MidnighToker> persian_x, assuming you can get a working bootCD then you know your hardware will work when you boot up. -can you try a 32bit bootcd maybe?
[03:52] <persian_x> eclecticus> tell me about it
[03:53] <matt1> persian_x: so many of us have been there.  keep trying. it's worth it =)
[03:53] <Yowsers> midnightoker: its just the quad cores are still pricey, and i was trying to do this build in budget :)
[03:53] <eclecticus> persian_x: i got everything setup, and then realized my Wireless wouldn't work correctly, or not at all
[03:53] <jstarcher> fresh install of ubuntu, I reboot from the installer and get Grub Error 2....any ideas?
[03:53] <MidnighToker> Yowsers, then it should do it, but i think its going to be slow.  -that and you'll want 4gb of ram  -if budget, then definatly up the ram  -the last thing you want is the machines swapping out
[03:53] <Downix> Yowsers:  Bah, only quads?  I'm talking the boss into an octet CPU setup
[03:54] <matt1> persian_x: I started with dual boot laptop, then eventually 2 PCs with ubuntu only.  my home is M$ free now
[03:54] <Dryft> having trouble accessing an Ubuntu share from my OS X laptop.  I noticed a couple of posts on the forums but there didn't seem to be any resolutions, it sees the shares but just keeps asking me to authorize and then saying my user/pass are wrong.  Any input?
[03:54] <Yowsers> midnightoker: yeah, it has 4 gb.. notice quantity 2 in the kingston ram :) should be 4 x 1gb sticks
[03:54] <persian_x> which option would you guys recommend: A)Multiple OS Ubuntu&Vista (60gb/120gb respectively) OR B)Fresh HD with Ubuntu (180gb)??
[03:54] <sivik> whats the command to reconfigure the xserver
[03:54] <eclecticus> persian_x: or that certain software wasn't available or compatible.. like for my computer science courses, we use Visual Studio C++.. had trouble finding something on linux that was comparable, and worked the same.. didnt have any luck
[03:54] <sherra1z> hello
[03:54] <Arc|Angel> hey eveyrone - i hope the evening is going well
[03:54] <nekcaikas> persian_x: this depends on what you actually use your machine for.
[03:54] <MidnighToker> Yowsers, missed that ;)
[03:54] <sherra1z> i have a problem with my ubuntu
[03:54] <Downix> persian_x: I do Ubuntu with QEMU to run WinXP
[03:54] <eclecticus> persian_x: I did the dual boot for a while, ubuntu/xp
[03:54] <nekcaikas> sherra1z: poor you
[03:55] <Arc|Angel> i can not recall the method to stop the ops from asking for the cd
[03:55] <sherra1z> yes X)
[03:55] <persian_x> nekcaikas> Heavy bittorrent downloads, schoolworks (word, excel, powerpoint), Surf the net & sometimes games
[03:55] <MidnighToker> persian_x, dual booting is useful; especially when you absolutely must haveto play that game that wont run in linux
[03:55] <Arc|Angel> i am trying to install some things like apache and it keeps asking me to put the cd in
[03:55] <Arc|Angel> instead of going out to the net
[03:56] <Dryft> anyone else using Ubuntu on a network with an OS X machine?
[03:56] <Arc|Angel> we have an os x at work
[03:56] <persian_x> Midnightoker>I realize but Vista wont let me shrink the space its been taking (120gb for GOD SAKE!!!) and I can only give 60 to ubuntu which isnt enough
[03:56] <eclecticus> damn, i need another HDD. so i can try the dual booting thing again
[03:56] <sherra1z> i am a new ubuntu's user
[03:56] <Arc|Angel> and ubuntu pcs
[03:56] <eclecticus> persian_x: GParted
[03:56] <MatthewPlanchard> hey, I've uninstalled evolution and yet the icon is still under my office tab in the applications menu. Is there any way to manually remove it?
[03:56] <Arc|Angel> i am trying to get my terabyte server up and running
[03:56] <eclecticus> persian_x: i had the same problem you are having
[03:56] <eclecticus> persian_x: gparted is your solution
[03:56] <sherra1z> there are some spanish
[03:57] <xIke> I am Dryft
[03:57] <Dryft> Arc|Angel: have you tried accessing an SMB/NFS share on an Ubuntu box from the Mac?
[03:57] <MidnighToker> persian_x, wow, thats nasty, wont let you shrink it at all? -you could always re-install it. -and 60BG is plenty to get Ubuntu going
[03:57] <Arc|Angel> ya
[03:57] <MidnighToker> persian_x, i'm playing with Ubuntu on a 20gb with room to spare
[03:57] <Arc|Angel> we have secure directories stored on our webserver from the mac test machine
[03:57] <Dryft> I've got a G4 PowerBook running 10.4.10 that sees my Ubuntu shares, but won't authenticate me
[03:57] <xIke> you guys doing anything to prep for gutsy?
[03:57] <persian_x> midnightoker> might be enough for Ubuntu, but not for my torrent downloads (which I will run STRICLY on ubuntu 64-bit)
[03:58] <Arc|Angel> the authenticating is done on the ubuntu side
[03:58] <persian_x> ecclecticus> THANKS A LOT!
[03:58] <bruenig> giving the computer a rest so that it will be prepared for the bloat that is the next release
[03:58] <eclecticus> persian_x: for what
[03:58] <cafuego> xIke: yes, watering the cats this afternoon.
[03:58] <endra> An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Select and install software. What is failing is the install of language-pack-en (caused by langauge-pack-en-base not being installed). How can I fix this?
[03:58] <xIke> cafuego: lol
[03:58] <Dryft> right, Im just wondering whats up, since I know my user/pass are correct, and smb is setup as share level
[03:58] <MidnighToker> Dryft, if you cant access shares on your Ubuntu SMB server try `smbpasswd -a <username>` on the ububtu box
[03:58] <Downix> How is Ubuntu's support for the 8-core SPARC T1 anyways?
[03:58] <persian_x> midnightoker> see, Im really tired of Vista so I just want to give this piece of crap maybe 15-20gb and the rest for Ubuntu, but nothing has been working as planned lol
[03:58] <Dryft> MidnighToker: will do
[03:58] <persian_x> eclecticus> GParted!!
[03:58] <xIke> wondering if I need to uninstall beryl and compiz before gutsy
[03:58] <Arc|Angel> i found my u/p was perfect and i screwed up the 0755
[03:58] <MidnighToker> persian_x, yeah, i hear that.
[03:59] <cafuego> persian_x: I wouldn't worry about it, 60Gb is huge for Linux. (unlike for Windows)
[03:59] <MidnighToker> persian_x, use the 60BG at the end of the drive for backup, wipe vista off then re-install it
[03:59] <Kudak> wow, the vimtutor is an awesome tutorial guide
[03:59] <Arc|Angel> so does anyone know how to get this server to stop pointing to the cd for installing apps
[03:59] <MidnighToker> cafuego, i think its the downloads that are the problem
[03:59] <MidnighToker> Kudak, :)
[03:59] <bruenig> !ot | Kudak
[03:59] <ubotu> Kudak: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:59] <cafuego> Pfff
[03:59] <Arc|Angel> i know we can do it - i just forgot it
[03:59] <MidnighToker> Arc|Angel, synaptic package manager
[03:59] <Kudak> bruenig: lol ?
[04:00] <Arc|Angel> from the command line?
[04:00] <Ste-Foy> OK thx MidnighToker
[04:00] <kris> Hi, I'm looking for a program for linux similar to FRAPS, www.fraps.com, to capture video from the screen.
[04:00] <Arc|Angel> i do apt-get
[04:00] <persian_x> midnightoker> If I wipe Vista off I will DEFINITELY not re-isntall it Lolll
[04:00] <MidnighToker> Arc|Angel, sorry, software sources
[04:00] <sherra1z> I have problems and i need help...
[04:00] <bruenig> Arc|Angel, delete the line from /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:00] <drewby> Hello
[04:00] <MidnighToker> persian_x, if you were booting nicely on a live-cd i'd tell you to go for it
[04:00] <Dialntone> that beep is driving me insane
[04:00] <Arc|Angel> ahh
[04:00] <Arc|Angel> brb
[04:00] <drewby> What is a graphics-based telnet program for Ubuntu?
[04:00] <MidnighToker> -also, how are you accessing the internet? wireless might not work without some fettling and its horrible when you cant get online to find out how to get online
[04:00] <cafuego> drewby: xterm -e telnet
[04:01] <sherra1z> if someone are able to help me, i will be pleased...
[04:01] <MidnighToker> drewby, or putty which works on linux/windows -but why telnet not ssh?
[04:01] <Dialntone> is there a command line to run over and over again  in the terminal that won't stop?
[04:01] <persian_x> Midnightoker> yes stricly wireless =S unfortunetaly
[04:01] <tt_> yah, telnet has no graphics
[04:01] <MidnighToker> sherra1z, ask the question, not to ask
[04:01] <kris> sherra1z: Go ahead and ask your question.
[04:01] <cafuego> Dialntone: `watch'
[04:01] <drewby> I need a graphics based telnet of ssh
[04:01] <sherra1z> ok, many thanks
[04:01] <tim167> about VLC: how can i change the order of the songs in my playlist ?
[04:01] <MidnighToker> persian_x, i'd recommend cashing out on an ethernet cable
[04:01] <drewby> to do remote matlab plotting
[04:01] <CaneToad> Does anyone know if the new ubuntu 7.10 release is supposed to well support ATI video?  The ubuntu 7 installer won't work on my machine (ATI mobility radeon 9700) although Fedora 7 works fine.
[04:01] <MidnighToker> persian_x, just incase ;)
[04:02] <kris> Hi, I'm looking for a program for linux similar to FRAPS, www.fraps.com, to capture video from the screen. Anyone familiar with such a program and could provide me with the name so I can look into it? Thanks.
[04:02] <cafuego> drewby: write a 2-line bash script that asks for a hostname via a dialog, then runs telnet.
[04:02] <bruenig> CaneToad, it's the same x, the same drivers that exist now, this is not microsoft, everything that is going into it already exists
[04:02] <persian_x> Midnightoker> What if Ubuntu doesnt even recognise my network card? lol which is most likely
[04:02] <Dialntone> cool i made my own alarm :D
[04:02] <mmschnei_> Hello, I am new to the whole composite desktop thing, I have been trying to get beryl working, can someone please help me troubleshoot my issue?
[04:02] <kitche> CaneToad: ubuntu 7.04 supports ATI also just that the ATI driver is horrible if you use the fglrx which most likely you don't with a mobility
[04:02] <drewby> cafeugo: that'll work?
[04:02] <MidnighToker> persian_x, thats most unlikely. the network card, i would think will be fine
[04:02] <cafuego> drewby: of course
[04:03] <tim167> kris: i think you  'd want to  google xvidcapt, not 100% sure...
[04:03] <cafuego> drewby: After you input the address, run 'xterm -e telnet ${HOST}' from the bash script, and voila.
[04:03] <persian_x> MidnighToker> if thats the case then I dont see why it wouldnt connect wireless (im on HP notebook)
[04:03] <sherra1z> tonight I installed ubuntu for first time, I tried to install opera like web browser, then Firefox dont work
[04:03] <xIke> krisL gtk-record desktop
[04:03] <MidnighToker> mmschnei_, i know nothing about it, but it would help if you told us what graphics card, and what you've tried to do to make it work
[04:03] <kris> tim167: Ok I'll look into that.
[04:03] <kris> xlke: Ok. I'll look into that too.
[04:03] <fastfinger> I am having hard time installign skype :<
[04:03] <MidnighToker> persian_x, the wireless support is far more complicated than a generic network controller on a PCI bus
[04:03] <Dialntone> cafuego,  do you know how to make flashing colors in the terminal?
[04:04] <Dialntone> make it repeat over ang over agian
[04:04] <bruenig> fastfinger, maybe you are leaving too much time between the first and second click
[04:04] <CaneToad> kitche/bruenig, booting from the ubuntu 7 dvd to install doesn't work on my machine, X server starts and then can't progress, wonder if 7.10 will be any different
[04:04] <bruenig> CaneToad, it's all the same thing, releases are illusions
[04:04] <tim167> kris: http://xvidcap.sourceforge.net/ :)
[04:04] <cafuego> Dialntone: take an acid tab
[04:04] <MidnighToker> bruenig, it cant be the same thing; he's got two CDs ;)
[04:04] <fastfinger> bulmer: ? said libasound2 is unacceptable or something
[04:04] <mmschnei_> I have a nVidia 8600 GT, using the latest drivers from nVidia. I had it working earlier and now its broken from some reason, I start up beryl-manager, and then beryl crashes "twice in less than a minute" and I get dumped back to kwin. I have tried doing a complete removal of all packages and reinstalling but that doesn't seem to have changed anything.
[04:04] <cafuego> drewby: telnet $(zenity --entry --text "Enter hostname")
[04:04] <Dialntone> acid tab?
[04:05] <Dialntone> hehe
[04:05] <fastfinger> and the libasound2 i have is that latest
[04:05] <drewby> cafuego: why not just xterm -e ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:05] <Dialntone> no
[04:05] <sherra1z> someone know how can I restore ubuntu at before date?
[04:05] <kris> tim167: Gracias!
[04:05] <MasterShrek> argh, compiled a new kernel and my sound driver isnt there :(
[04:05] <Arc|Angel> worked perfect thanks - drew a blank on that for some reason
[04:05] <cafuego> drewby: Run whatever, my point is zenity.
[04:05] <sherra1z> kris, hablas espaol....
[04:05] <drewby> zenity
[04:05] <drewby> okay
[04:05] <mmschnei_> if I run beryl --replace then I get windows w/o boarders and no alt-tab
[04:05] <sherra1z> te necesitoooo
[04:05] <Arc|Angel> anyone have a good source list
[04:05] <bruenig> drewby, or xdialog
[04:05] <mmschnei_> kicker seems to die to then.
[04:05] <MidnighToker> mmschnei_, i'd posibly say use compiz not Beryl. they are joining again, and my friend seemed to get compiz working with ATI as a first time linux user (so it cant be that bad)
[04:05] <Dialntone> blag
[04:06] <mmschnei_> MidnighToker, I can get compiz working.
[04:06] <persian_x> Midnightoker> Do you suggest me to just wait for the new release and retry everything?
[04:06] <mmschnei_> MidnighToker, I want to use some emerald themes, with compiz I dont' even know where to set the themes at
[04:06] <Arc|Angel> whats this mean
[04:06] <Arc|Angel> Setting up apache (1.3.34-4.1) ...
[04:06] <Arc|Angel> dpkg: error processing apache (--configure):
[04:06] <Arc|Angel>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:06] <Arc|Angel> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:06] <Arc|Angel>  apache
[04:06] <Arc|Angel> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[04:06] <kris> sherra1z: Si necesitas ayuda con Linux en Espanol, yo te recomiendo que buscas en #ubuntu-es. No puedo hablarlo muy bien. Lo siento.
[04:06] <phix> hey
[04:06] <MidnighToker> persian_x, i'd suggest trying a 32bit boot CD, or try the new beta -its virtually released and its stable
[04:06] <bruenig> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:06] <Arc|Angel> and that means?
[04:06] <mmschnei_> and I noticed the merging of beryl & compiz is going to be called compiz-fusion, but I didn't see anything along those lines in the application database
[04:06] <MidnighToker> Arc|Angel, sounds like your system is foobared
[04:07] <bruenig> the script that runs after the installation failed
[04:07] <Arc|Angel> foorbarded it is a fresh install
[04:07] <MidnighToker> mmschnei_, its not in the default repository, do some googling there are guides out there
[04:07] <bruenig> it isn't foobared, that person doesn't know anything
[04:07] <phix> mozilla-thunderbird likes to crash (segfault) on me for no reason.  I am using amd64bit vers of ubuntu (on a intel core 2 duo, installed from alternative install cd)
[04:07] <kitche> mmschnei_: it's part of gutsy since compiz-fusion is done but it's not a merger really between compiz and beryl it's a merger between compiz-extra and beryl
[04:07] <mmschnei_> MidnighToker, ok, thanks, I'll give that a shot, you have any idea about compiz theme management?
[04:07] <Arc|Angel> i thought errors like this are done when it failed to install
[04:07] <sherra1z> mi problema es que a partir de intentar instalar opera, no puedo salir a internet con ningun web browser
[04:07] <persian_x> MidnighToker> Is something wrong with 64-bit?
[04:07] <gerro> endra: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125084 might want to skip the part about conky though
[04:07] <phix> It only started doing that today, if I remove .mozilla-thunderbird it works up until I add in my IMAP account, then it crashses
[04:07] <MidnighToker> persian_x, no, but i've had older versions not booting on 64bit hardware and working fine with a 32bit release
[04:08] <mmschnei_> kitche, ok, good to know its in gutsy... thanks =)
[04:08] <kris> sherra1z: Esta channel esta reservado para ayuda solo en ingles. Si estas buscando para ayuda en espanol, vaya a #ubuntu-es.
[04:08] <MidnighToker> mmschnei_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[04:08] <bruenig> Arc|Angel, the postinst script failed, you can open the deb up and edit it or perhaps there is a dpkg flag that will allow you to skip that script
[04:08] <phix> Any ideas?
[04:08] <MidnighToker> or mmschnei_ http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ubuntu+compiz+fusion
[04:08] <sherra1z> kris: gracias, disculpa la molestia
[04:08] <persian_x> MidnighToker> Thanks so much, youve been great help!!
[04:08] <MidnighToker> persian_x, i have my moments :)
[04:09] <kris> sherra1z: No problemo. One moment, maybe I can help you.
[04:09] <Arc|Angel> did it complete the install?  -  An error is still not a good thing so I would like to find out what the error is
[04:09] <MidnighToker> persian_x, good luck getting off vista
[04:09] <kris> sherra1z: So you want to install opera, but can't? What's the problem?
[04:09] <phix> :/
[04:09] <persian_x> MidnighToker> Once I'll know enough about Setting everything correctly on Ubuntu, Vista is going bye-bye forever
[04:10] <phix> persian_x: you use Vista?
[04:10] <bruenig> Arc|Angel, seriously try to read the errors, they are written in understandable english if you don't just recoil immediately from them and go "I don't know this bah, what is this." It says that the post-installation script (the script that runs post(after) installation) failed. That means that the files were installed.
[04:10] <sivik> has anyone have any luck with nvidia drivers with a 8600GT video card
[04:10] <mmschnei_> sivik, yep
[04:10] <mmschnei_> Im running it now
[04:10] <phix> sivik: yes
[04:10] <persian_x> phix> Yes, unfortunetaly
[04:10] <phix> persian_x: why?
[04:10] <phix> persian_x: install XP at least
[04:11] <persian_x> phix> Came with tx1000 notebook
[04:11] <mmschnei_> MidnighToker, thanks. I am not used to ubuntu yet. I don't get why compiz-fusion cannot be installed now on 7.04
[04:11] <sivik> i'm apparently doing somethig wrong because its not working for me
[04:11] <phix> persian_x: :S I wouldn't of bought it
[04:11] <phix> unless they loaded it with XP
[04:11] <phix> or no os and gave me monies
[04:11] <mmschnei_> sivik, I grabbed them from nvidia's website and installed them that way.
[04:11] <Arc|Angel> i also have an issue where I tried to upgrade to 7.10 on my laptop and now that is foobarded it wont reconize any of my usb drives so i can save my email nor will it connect to the network - any suggestions on how to get my email saved
[04:11] <MidnighToker> mmschnei_, its not something i've played with, and i've only been using ubuntu for about 24hours, so...  google is your firend ;)
[04:11] <sivik> mmschnei_, apparently i'm doing something wrong cause its not working for me, i'm running vesa right now
[04:11] <persian_x> phix> I love the touchscreen Tablet look and the fingerprint scanner, 200gb & AMD64
[04:12] <Clinton__> !flash
[04:12] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:12] <sivik> mmschnei_, didn't know it would work that way, i will try that one
[04:12] <persian_x> phix> They loaded it up with Vista Home Premium
[04:12] <mmschnei_> sivik, I couldn't get it working within ubuntu's package management
[04:12] <jarrod_> i just hooked up 7.10 to a monitor and had to reset the resolution to get it to work. had to take it down all the way to 640x480. this has caused some problems. the preference > resolution only shows this res. suggestions?
[04:12] <fevel> cafuego, LOL
[04:12] <phix> fingerprint scanner :/ you do relise everytime you touch something you are giving after your authentication key
[04:12] <eclecticus> i have a question - why did all of you switch to Linux
[04:12] <mudoch> Hello, I have a question regarding auto starting xxamp under 7.04
[04:12] <sivik> mmschnei_, thats what i'm trying to do it with, i will try the driver from the nvidia website
[04:12] <MasterShrek> jarrod_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:12] <eclecticus> I want to switch to Linux but I don't know why, and it scares me that i might not find software that I need to work correctly... like what happend last time
[04:13] <mmschnei_> MidnighToker, thanks, I've been googling for hours, I've read both of the links you gave me already w/o much of a soln. found. I think at this point I'll just wait for 7.10 to come out and see how that handles it before I put more time into this.
[04:13] <adante> hi, where should i go to install irssi 0.8.12?
[04:13] <c_plus_plus> hello, my nvidia restricted driver gives me a blank screen if i enable it and reboot, changing back to the nv driver fixes the problem
[04:13] <persian_x> phix> worst comes to worst I'll get FBI knocking on my door, BAH!
[04:13] <sivik> eclecticus, what do you need?
[04:13] <phix> persian_x: authentication via something you are is not a good idea, there is no way to change who you are if you get comprimised ;)
[04:13] <adante> or even 0.8.11.. what is the deal with 'unstable' packages in ubuntu?
[04:13] <MidnighToker> eclecticus, i was sick of windows and couldnt afford new mac hardware... saying that, linux is far nicer than OSX, far mre open
[04:13] <drewby> xterm is not graphics based
[04:13] <drewby> I need to do plotting with matlab
[04:13] <mudoch> how do I get the xxamp install to autostartup
[04:13] <eclecticus> sivik: Visual Studio C++, uTorrent, Miranda-IM
[04:13] <phix> mudoch: point and click
[04:13] <Flannel> mudoch: don't use xammp, get a real LAMP stack
[04:14] <MidnighToker> persian_x, there was also the worrying case of mercedes drivers having hands stolen in carjacking incidents when they starting using fingerprints instead of ignitian keys
[04:14] <mudoch> Yeah I thought about that but xxamp has many module installed....
[04:15] <Arc|Angel> any way to recover that laptop after a failed upgrade to 7.10 beta
[04:15] <Berzerker> failed to initialize nvidia kernel module
[04:15] <Berzerker> any help?
[04:15] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, still?
[04:15] <Clinton__> !upgrade
[04:15] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:15] <Berzerker> indeed
[04:15] <Flannel> Arc|Angel: Finish the upgrade
[04:16] <drewby> Should I use vnc?
[04:16] <mudoch> arcangel did you get that beat from Linux format?
[04:16] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, have you been upgrading or anything? you should only have to install it once
[04:16] <bruenig> Arc|Angel, wrong channel, it is a good idea to at least understand like the bare basics of linux before doing something like that, I mean knowledge of front ends tends to be very unhelpful
[04:16] <Arc|Angel> i can not get it to connect to the network now, neither ethernet or wireless
[04:16] <bruenig> knowing how to click through the python scripts is not enough to justify a jump to beta
[04:17] <Berzerker> no..
[04:17] <Arc|Angel> i am no guru i know this but i have done upgrades before
[04:17] <Berzerker> I havn'
[04:17] <Berzerker> t
[04:17] <Arc|Angel> never had this before
[04:17] <Flannel> Arc|Angel: Sneakernet to the rescue then.  Suggest you download an alternate CD for gutsy and use that as a repo.  But, you really ought to be asking in #ubuntu+1, they might have a solution for you
[04:17] <Arc|Angel> i wanted to test it on an extra laptop i have
[04:17] <MasterShrek> Arc|Angel, well, u do realize that gutsy is still beta, but i would say you need to load modules for your nic cards
[04:18] <bruenig> yeah it could be your network interface card card
[04:18] <Berzerker> MasterShrek, I haven't been upgrading.
[04:18] <Arc|Angel> i was thinking the modules got screwed when it rebooted - my son pulled the ethernet cord out by mistake
[04:18] <bruenig> that had nothing to do with it
[04:18] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, if i remember right you were using the nvidia driver from their website, have you ever got it to work?
[04:19] <Berzerker> no
[04:19] <Berzerker> I also tried the nvidia-glx
[04:19] <kitche> Berzerker: if you installed nvidia from their website you might nee dot reinstall it if you upgraded your kernel lately
[04:19] <Arc|Angel> well it was taking down the network manager and then the cord was pulled
[04:19] <Berzerker> I haven't.
[04:19] <Flannel> Arc|Angel: Try the alternate CD to do the local package thing to finish the upgrade.
[04:19] <EADG_> What program can I use undelete a folder & its files on a fat32 external usb HDD?
[04:19] <Berzerker> I haven't done any upgrading of any kind
[04:19] <Berzerker> all I did was install madwifi, and the error was happening before I installed it
[04:19] <mudoch> question regarding the auto starting the  XXAMP stack.... read something about the rc.local.... am i on the right track?  seems I can not find much on rc.local
[04:19] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, when you install the driver, do it give you errors?
[04:19] <Berzerker> no
[04:20] <MasterShrek> mudoch, if you want something to start on boot, put the command in rc.local
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> mudoch rc.local is /etc/rc.local - its just a script file that gets ran at boot up.
[04:20] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, what graphics card is it?
[04:20] <mariooliveira> hello
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> mudoch i think rc.local is the Last thing that gets ran at boot up. ;)
[04:21] <MasterShrek> Dr_Willis, i think u are correct
[04:21] <Berzerker> 8600M GT
[04:21] <Flannel> mudoch: XAMPP isn't in ubuntu, its not really supported by us (because we don't usually deal with it).  You might ask the XAMPP people.  Or, as some have suggested, just use a real LAMP stack.  Its easy to install: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:21] <sivik> installing with the nvidia drivers still did not work with my 8600GT
[04:21] <Berzerker> I'm doing this on a macbook pro
[04:21] <mudoch> mastershrek/dr_willis  the default script says I have to mod the permissions first... is that correct?
[04:21] <sivik> i installed the drivers from the nvidia website
[04:21] <MasterShrek> mudoch, to run a program it has to be executable, so probably
[04:21] <sivik> is there something else i need to do to test with it
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> mudoch rc.local should have the proper permissions allready. (it might need a chmod +x) to it..
[04:22] <MasterShrek> sivik and Berzerker, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:22] <Flannel> mudoch: make sure you install it to /opt
[04:22] <Heygabe> What is the application that puts system status on the desktop in fluxbox?
[04:22] <shanti>  hi there .. i always get nasty hangs when i try lvcreate ( it somehow trys to access my cdrom-device ) .. after some kind of timeout the command finishs .. how can i stop this lockups ?
[04:22] <mudoch> ok thanks all.... just wanted to get my head around the rc.local... thought that might be the way...
[04:22] <Berzerker> with the drive loaded in xorg, or vesa loaded in xorg?
[04:22] <bruenig> Heygabe, conky will do it on any desktop
[04:22] <Berzerker> driver*
[04:22] <Flannel> Heygabe: Does conky wor with fluxbox?
[04:22] <andy__> can someone help me with my c compiler
[04:22] <shanti> i am on the install-cd
[04:23] <bruenig> andy__, you writing a c compiler?
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> mudoch not a lot to rc.local :) its just a simple script. By default it just does an 'exit 0' i belive.
[04:23] <Heygabe> is that the one that comes with puppy?  I love theone that comes with puppy
[04:23] <sivik> MasterShrek, already did that, coming up and telling me the failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module
[04:23] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, u should have nvidia in the xorg.conf
[04:23] <andy__> no lmao. the one I have on my ubuntu is being weird
[04:23] <Berzerker> I can't start the X Server if I have it in there
[04:23] <Berzerker> gives me the same error as sivik
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> Conky works fine with fluxbox :)  Flannel
[04:23] <MasterShrek> sivik, and Berzerker you both have 8600's do you know for sure if that card is supported?
[04:23] <mariooliveira> i need help.  firefox  sometimes tries to open php file and sometimes  types starts opening  new pages to infinity
[04:23] <Berzerker> According to different tutorials on installing Ubuntu on Macbook Pros, it should be.
[04:23] <mudoch> flannel.... yep got the xxamp running, but have to start every time..... just doing a test box here for it..... I did install a LAMP on another box.
[04:23] <sivik> MasterShrek: yes, because i downloaded the drivers from the nvidia website
[04:24] <andy__> checking for sed... /bin/sed
[04:24] <andy__> checking for gcc... gcc
[04:24] <andy__> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[04:24] <andy__> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:24] <sivik> andy__, use pastebin.com
[04:24] <Berzerker> sivik, just because you downloaded it from their site doesn't mean it's compatable
[04:24] <CITguy> sivik: what is the error you are getting?
[04:24] <MasterShrek> andy__, sudo apt-get install build-essential     then try again
[04:24] <eclecticus> how do i find out what kind of HDD my laptop requires ? ATA-6, SATA 3.0 Gb/s , or Serial ATA150 ?
[04:24] <sivik> CITguy, "failed to load the NVIDIA kernel modules"
[04:24] <andy__> ty
[04:24] <Berzerker> I'm having the same problem as sivik
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> eclecticus open it up and look.
[04:24] <mariooliveira> any one knows how to disable firefox from trying to open php files?
[04:24] <sivik> eclecticus, what willis said
[04:24] <pavs> ok time for a silly question. is it possible to make linux box report a customized uptime report ie, instead of the actual 20 days make it say 20,000 days ;)
[04:24] <eclecticus> sivik: will it say ?
[04:25] <Flannel> mariooliveira: youre viewing them through a webserver?
[04:25] <CITguy> how'd you install the NVIDIA driver?
[04:25] <mariooliveira> or opening  pages to infinite
[04:25] <mariooliveira> yes
[04:25] <Berzerker> run package from nvidia
[04:25] <MasterShrek> pavs, no, that would kinda defeat the purpose wouldnt it?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> eclecticus  look at the conectors on the drive.  it may be ide. or sata.
[04:25] <sivik> CITguy, i did it with the apt-get first and then install via the ./NVIDIA*.run
[04:25] <eclecticus> ok
[04:25] <Flannel> mariooliveira: Thats a misconfiguration on the server (its not executing the PHP script), not the browser
[04:25] <Dr_Willis>  eclecticus as to the speeds - that normally dosent matter.
[04:25] <adante> hi, whenever i install a package now i get about a million errors pertaining to failing to write font cache and openoffice not being configured, how cna i fix these? i tried touchging the directories but this does not seem to have helped
[04:25] <MasterShrek> sivik and Berzerker uninstall nvidia-glx first maybe
[04:25] <CITguy> try executing the *.run file with the --add-this-kernel option
[04:25] <pavs> that sucks
[04:26] <sivik> CITguy, ?
[04:26] <Berzerker> --add-this-kernal?
[04:26] <andy__> what was the package name again?
[04:26] <mariooliveira> Flannel:  How do i solve that?
[04:26] <CITguy> execute ./NVIDIA*.run --add-this-kernel
[04:26] <MasterShrek> andy__, build-essential
[04:26] <eclecticus> Dr_Willis: I want to upgrade my laptops HDD so i can dual boot Vista and Ubuntu, right now it has a 60GB HDD
[04:26] <eclecticus> what should I upgrade my laptops HDD to
[04:26] <Berzerker> MasterShrek, I installed the glx after I found the run package gave me the error,
[04:26] <arooni> how do i create a .vmdk file to use with virtualbox?  are vmdk files smart enough to be growing in size like .vdi files?  can .vmdk files be expanded in the future?
[04:26] <Flannel> mariooliveira: Make sure you've got mod-php enabled, and um, I don't really remember.  You might ask in #apache
[04:26] <CITguy> it will proceed to compile a kernel interface for your machine and add a *custom.run file in the directory
[04:26] <sivik> now its actually doing something now
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> eclecticus 60gb is plenty huge for that job. :) upgrade to whatever your budget can afford i guess.
[04:27] <Berzerker> Doesn't it automatically do that?
[04:27] <CITguy> not automatically
[04:27] <sivik> same error CITguy
[04:27] <eclecticus> Dr_Willis: But I torrent alot :(, 60Gb didnt work in the past
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> eclecticus higher rpm would be nicer/quicker.. but more $$ - and will suck down battery life.
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> eclecticus easy fix would be to get a external usb hd for your torrents.
[04:28] <andy__> eclecticus, buy a slave hd?
[04:28] <Berzerker> external drive.
[04:28] <Berzerker> 160GB My Book
[04:28] <eclecticus> hmm
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> Like you really NEED 60gb of torrents on the laptop all the time. :)
[04:28] <eclecticus> are those reliable ?
[04:28] <sivik> CITguy, same error
[04:28] <Berzerker> I have one.
[04:28] <Berzerker> Works great.
[04:28] <eclecticus> i heard they die on you
[04:28] <MasterShrek> eclecticus, dont drop it =P
[04:28] <Berzerker> Set it up through my router
[04:28] <Berzerker> wirelessly to all computers
[04:28] <Berzerker> works fine.
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> eclecticus they use the same hd's as in the laptop.. ... so..
[04:28] <eclecticus> cool
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> The external hds are about the same $$ as internal hds when ya find them on sale. :)
[04:29] <eclecticus> does my laptop have to be connected to it in order for it to be downloading the torrents or. .. how does that work
[04:29] <Berzerker> side question: how would I make something (like yakuake) run at startup?
[04:29] <Berzerker> or...login
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> eclecticus.. well to ACCESS the drive.. it has to be connected.. of course..
[04:29] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, are you on kde or gnome?
[04:29] <sivik> Berzerker, make it run at run level 2
[04:29] <Berzerker> gnome
[04:29] <cafuego> external HDDs cost the same as internal HDDs plus $20 for an enclosure <heh>
[04:29] <jeffreyf> hello.  What file controls what release/OS is selected for automatic boot?
[04:29] <MasterShrek> u can put it in system > preferences > sessions
[04:29] <sivik> jeffreyf, grub
[04:29] <CITguy> ok, have you installed the following prior to executing the *.run file :: "libc6 libc6-dev xorg-dev make linux-headers-`uname -r`"?
[04:29] <Flannel> jeffreyf: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> cafuego ive been finding the externals cheaper at times. :) gotta love sales.
[04:29] <jeffreyf> Where?
[04:30] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, yakuake is awesome =)
[04:30] <sivik> CITguy, their should be
[04:30] <Berzerker> yeah
[04:30] <Berzerker> how would I make it run at level 2
[04:30] <eclecticus> $89.99 for a 160 GB laptop HDD..  how much do external HDDs cost ?
[04:30] <MasterShrek> i dont think u would want yakuake to be at runlevel 2
[04:30] <Berzerker> well then how would I make it run at login
[04:30] <Dan_L> Ok.  So I'm taking the plunge here.  Would somebody verify this instruction as accurate and functional:    http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first
[04:30] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, u can put it in system > preferences > sessions
[04:30] <sivik> why would you want vista
[04:30] <sivik> vista is worse than ME
[04:30] <TIMUR> I have a Question
[04:30] <sivik> TIMUR, just ask
[04:30] <cdm10> We may have an Answer
[04:30] <TIMUR> How do u set ONE inch MARGins in Open office ??
[04:31] <EADG_> eclecticus: $129 for 500Gb external.
[04:31] <jeffreyf> sivik:  where is that on the drive?.....
[04:31] <cdm10> TIMUR: it should be in Format>Paragraph
[04:31] <Berzerker> a ha
[04:31] <MasterShrek> format > paragraph or something i spose
[04:31] <mariooliveira> Flannel: Tanks for the tips i thought it was something of virus or something like that
[04:31] <sivik> jeffreyf, /boot/grub/grub.list
[04:31] <Berzerker> ok
[04:31] <Berzerker> now
[04:31] <CITguy> TIMUR: Format > Page
[04:31] <Berzerker> that's done
[04:31] <Berzerker> back to the graphics problems
[04:31] <bruenig> TIMUR, your hand accidentally slipped onto the shift button a couple of times
[04:31] <sivik> Berzerker, lol
[04:31] <Berzerker> :P
[04:31] <jeffreyf> sivik:  Thanks!
[04:31] <TIMUR> and then?? format paragraph ,,, i can't chagne in values
[04:32] <cdm10> yeah, who the hell capitalizes stuff on teh interweb?
[04:32] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, im confused as to why its not working, are u running 32 or 64 bit? and did you download the proper file?
[04:32] <Berzerker> 32
[04:32] <Berzerker> yes, I'm almost positive I did
[04:32] <Berzerker> lol
[04:32] <cdm10> TIMUR: Well, a bug in OpenOffice is preventing me from accessing that dialog at all, so I can't walk you through it... sorry.
[04:32] <sivik> jeffreyf, yw
[04:32] <griberal> Other than package management, are there any major differences between CentOS and Ubuntu Server?
[04:32] <Berzerker> one second MAster,
[04:32] <Berzerker> I'll brb
[04:32] <sivik> griberal, i would run debian over ubuntu server, i hate centos, too many files to change a config file
[04:32] <MasterShrek> bow to your master =P
[04:33] <cdm10> griberal: package management and available packages make a BIG difference.
[04:33] <CITguy> TIMUR: Format > Page, Page Tab, Margins Group
[04:33] <TIMUR> Who else can Help me To set 1 INCH margins in OPEn offcie PLease
[04:33] <jeffreyf> sivik:  /boot/grub/menu.lst.........got it!
[04:33] <MasterShrek> i would run slackware over debian over ubuntu server
[04:33] <sivik> TIMUR, you should be able to move the tabs at the top and left to make it an ince
[04:33] <sivik> MasterShrek, i have never used slackware, why do you like it better
[04:33] <sivik> you still around CITguy?
[04:33] <drewby> I tried making a bash script
[04:33] <cdm10> TIMUR: what's with your funky capitalization?
[04:33] <CITguy> yes
[04:33] <MasterShrek> its beautiful, thats about all i can say lol
[04:33] <TIMUR> I can't tell how to make it an Inch
[04:34] <sivik> CITguy, what were those things i needed to install
[04:34] <RB2> I just had the strangest experience... I rebooted my machine (running 7.10) after some updates and my Compiz theme changed.
[04:34] <sivik> TIMUR, ten little marks is an inch
[04:34] <bbardlbradd> Hey, there's a lady crying behind my house... Can someone help me get a dock for Ubuntu (gnome)
[04:34] <peacepipejv> Help, i nstalled a program via synaptic. Its nowhere to be found.
[04:34] <Flannel> RB2: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support, thanks.
[04:34] <mehevi_> I'm having trouble installing murrina engine for gtk+2.0.  I installed the deb but in my window decoration options it does not show up, I'm using xfce
[04:34] <CITguy> libc6 libc6-dev xorg-dev linux-headers-`uname -r` make
[04:34] <griberal> sivik, why do you prefer Debian over Ubuntu Server?
[04:34] <drewby> basically ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>tap matlab; matlab
[04:34] <MasterShrek> peacepipejv, what program?
[04:34] <drewby> but it didn't work
[04:34] <sivik> griberal, i think it runs better
[04:34] <matt1> what package will let me log into gmail chat using the curses command line interface?  is there any?
[04:34] <peacepipejv> junior-programming
[04:34] <CITguy> sivik: then run ./NVIDIA*.run --add-this-kernel
[04:34] <SiCoTRoNiC> most installed programs are in /bin
[04:34] <drewby> I need a graphical ssh client.
[04:34] <Flannel> matt1: any curses jabber client.  centericq is one
[04:35] <novato_br> how can I listen this http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8002 ?
[04:35] <cdm10> matt1: gaim-text (finch on Gutsy)
[04:35] <griberal> sivik, in what way? less crashes? faster?
[04:35] <MasterShrek> drewby, vnc, but its not really ssh
[04:35] <matt1> Flannel:  dm10 : thx
[04:35] <bbardlbradd> I have the avant window manger, and I've heard that they make a dock, but where do I get it?   Never mind.
[04:38] <CITguy> Berzerker: leave it
[04:38] <EADG_> Anybody know of a program that will undelete files/folders on a fat32 hard drive?
[04:38] <johnadsfsdfdf> Dan_L, dont know anything about vista
[04:38] <MasterShrek> Dan_L, nobody knows anything about vista, the people that wrote it probably dont, its a crappy os alltogether
[04:38] <johnadsfsdfdf> Dan_L: but id say that if you have 1 HD you should shrink the vista part, after its been installed
[04:38] <sivik> CITguy, same error "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module"
[04:38] <griberal> MasterShrek, do you prefer Debian over Ubuntu Server too?
[04:38] <sivik> Vista is almost as bad as ME
[04:39] <MasterShrek> and your hard drive sheds a tear every time it spins because it has it on it =P
[04:39] <Dan_L> Yeah.  I suppose I'm just nervous about running this live disk.
[04:39] <johnadsfsdfdf> Dan_L: and then let the ubuntu install setup a bootloader for you
[04:39] <CITguy> sivik: have you ever had the NVIDIA driver working?
[04:39] <Berzerker> amount of memory to be used?
[04:39] <MasterShrek> griberal, neiter
[04:39] <MasterShrek> neither*
[04:39] <sivik> CITguy, i have no clue, how do i determine this
[04:39] <johnadsfsdfdf> Dan_L: burn your important files to disc
[04:39] <griberal> MasterShrek, were you the one that said Slackware?
[04:39] <bbardlbradd> Oh, AWN means Avant Window Manager... Well, I already have that window manager... but it doesn't have the dock, what ever shall I do? Someone... please
[04:39] <CITguy> Berzerker: use the amount of memory that is on board your graphics card
[04:39] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, if you know how much mem your vid card has put it there, but u can probably leave it blank
[04:39] <sivik> griberal, yes he was
[04:39] <MasterShrek> griberal, yes
[04:39] <Berzerker> it's a 128mb
[04:40] <Berzerker> so 128000
[04:40] <Berzerker> I put?
[04:40] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, i think u need to put 128000
[04:40] <MasterShrek> yes
[04:40] <Berzerker> or should I just leave it blank
[04:40] <JEFFmasterFLEX> AWN is the Avant Window Navigator, it IS a dock
[04:40] <CITguy> sivik: a better question would be "Are you installing the NVIDIA driver from a clean install?"
[04:40] <JEFFmasterFLEX> you must have beryl or compiz-fusion enabled to use it
[04:40] <MasterShrek> CITguy, that shouldnt matter
[04:40] <sivik> CITguy, not anymore, how do i uninstall the old stuff without a reimage
[04:40] <griberal> From what I can tell, the only difference between Debian/Ubuntu Server and RedHat/CentOS is package management. Am I missing some other major differences?
[04:40] <MasterShrek> sivik, make sure if you are compiling the driver from nvidia, that you have nvidia-glx uninstalled
[04:41] <onj> Can anyone help me configure a Sound Blaster Audigy?
[04:41] <MasterShrek> griberal, not really, theres a few things, but the package system is probably the main difference, and i guess the kernel patches that each distro adds
[04:41] <Berzerker> write default files section to configuration file?
[04:41] <sivik> yrd
[04:41] <sivik> yes*
[04:41] <PupUsercab2ce> Hi, I'm installing gutsy on a MacBook Pro, but it doesn't show on the rEFit menu?
[04:41] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, yea
[04:41] <PupUsercab2ce> How can I fix this?
[04:42] <griberal> MasterShrek, there are probably more RPM packages out there than there are DEB, right?
[04:42] <JEFFmasterFLEX> onj:  the drivers for the audigy should have been loaded automatically on boot
[04:42] <onj> Well, It doesn't work
[04:42] <CITguy> sivik: are you getting the error when installing the driver or starting X?
[04:42] <Iceshadow> anyone happen to know how to mark and cut a region in vim?
[04:42] <MasterShrek> griberal, i dont know for sure, probably about the same, anything that is rpm and easily be converted to deb, or tgz for slackware
[04:42] <Berzerker> ok
[04:42] <Berzerker> I rewrote it
[04:42] <sivik> CITguy, when typing startx
[04:42] <Berzerker> now what do I do
[04:42] <JEFFmasterFLEX> onj:  it is possible that your onboard sound chip is enabled and that is limiting access to the soundblaster card
[04:42] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, try to restart gdm again
[04:42] <onj> Jeff, I have no onboard sound
[04:43] <CITguy> sivik: you've installed the packages i mentioned earlier?
[04:43] <JEFFmasterFLEX> onj:  i hate to blacklist the onboard sound driver to get my soundblaster card working properly
[04:43] <sivik> CITguy, yes
[04:43] <jrib> Iceshadow: v for visual mode... d for delete
[04:43] <astro76> griberal, If I'm not mistaken, Debian's repositories are unmatched... 20,000+ packages... packaged well
[04:43] <CITguy> have you run ./NVIDIA*.run --add-this-kernel?
[04:43] <PupUsercab2ce> Anybody here know rEFit or know what channel would?
[04:43] <bbardlbradd> Does anyone know if feisty supposes the new AWN dock?
[04:43] <sivik> yes
[04:43] <sivik> twice
[04:43] <bbardlbradd> supports*
[04:43] <griberal> astro76, I have been using YUM to manage packages on CentOS. Is there something comparable for DEB?
[04:43] <CITguy> sivik: have you run the *custom.run file in the same directory?
[04:44] <onj> griberal, apt-get
[04:44] <sivik> CITguy, yes
[04:44] <sivik> griberal, aptitude/apt-get
[04:44] <astro76> griberal, apt-get, and Synaptic gui
[04:44] <MasterShrek> griberal, ive never been fond of yum, apt-get is the bomb
[04:44] <CITguy> sivik: did you allow the installer to configure the xorg.conf?
[04:44] <jrib> !apt > griberal (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:44] <onj> apt-get install <package name>
[04:44] <drewby> okay
[04:44] <jrib> !software > griberal (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:44] <drewby> No luck with rdesktop
[04:44] <Berzerker> nope
[04:44] <Berzerker> same error
[04:44] <WhiteNails> Hello! im a new ubuntu user with 1 hour of experience  :)... loving it so far but im trying to install virtualbox via the terminal but i cant continue cause i dont know how to click okay
[04:44] <drewby> graphics based ssh
[04:44] <WhiteNails> see here to see what i mean
[04:44] <WhiteNails> http://2k72.com/Screenshot.png
[04:44] <drewby> list x-win
[04:44] <drewby> is what the school reccomends
[04:44] <jrib> WhiteNails: tab, then enter
[04:45] <PupUsercab2ce> Anybody here use Mactel?
[04:45] <sivik> CITguy, yes
[04:45] <griberal> all of those package management systems automatically resolve all dependencies?
[04:45] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, im lost, can you pastebin your xorg.conf for me?
[04:45] <sivik> griberal, mostly
[04:45] <WhiteNails> jrib: THANKS!
[04:45] <drewby> How do I use/get/connect x-win to a remote computer
[04:45] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, also the file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:45] <griberal> Great! Thanks.
[04:45] <CITguy> sivik: and you've tried startx afterward?
[04:45] <jrib> griberal: yes, APT is what you want and everyone listed frontends
[04:45] <sivik> CITguy, yes, this is where i'm getting the error
[04:45] <onj> Anyone possible fixed for the sound problem?
[04:46] <onj> *Any
[04:46] <jrib> !sound > onj (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:46] <CITguy> ok, try running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:46] <JEFFmasterFLEX> onj:  try sudo lsmod and see what drivers are loaded
[04:46] <JEFFmasterFLEX> onj:  for my card, the driver name is snd_ca0106
[04:46] <CITguy> set the driver to nvidia
[04:46] <MasterShrek> onj, instead of just lsmod, do: lsmod | grep snd
[04:46] <drewby> xterm -e ssh is not graphical
[04:46] <drewby> RAWRRR
[04:46] <sivik> CITguy, ok
[04:46] <drewby> this is making me angry
[04:47] <CITguy> try startx
[04:47] <drewby> not that I'm blaming you guys
[04:47] <Blindraven> Warning, DO NOT execute this command.  Question: How can I stop this from replicating when I type it in to a terminal.       :(){ :|:& };:
[04:47] <MasterShrek> drewby, rdesktop?
[04:47] <Berzerker> http://pastebin.org/4939
[04:47] <andy__> where can I find the glib dev. headers
[04:47] <drewby> does rdesktop need an rdesktop server
[04:47] <drewby> when I try to connect using rdesktop it says connection closed
[04:48] <sivik> CITguy, done, should i try it now
[04:48] <sivik> drewby, sounds like a windows issue
[04:48] <CITguy> sivik: yes
[04:48] <sivik> CITguy, same issue
[04:48] <drewby> sivik: How to remedy?
[04:48] <MasterShrek> drewby, reformat the windows partition =]
[04:48] <drewby> ummm
[04:48] <sivik> drewby: make sure rdp is working in windows or take MasterShreks advice
[04:48] <sivik> its winblows
[04:48] <andy__> where can I get the GLIB 2.0 development headers
[04:49] <drewby> I'm trying to connect to my schools computers
[04:49] <MasterShrek> andy__, search synaptic for glib dev
[04:49] <drewby> I can't go reformat them
[04:49] <drewby> I can ssh into them
[04:49] <sivik> drewby, they probably have the port blocked
[04:49] <Berzerker> MasterShrek, see anything?
[04:49] <drewby> no problem
[04:49] <johnadsfsdfdf> so how exactly can i find which version of ubuntu im running... i think its dapper and i want to upgrade to feisty
[04:49] <sivik> drewby, two different ports, ssh port 22 and rdp is port 3389
[04:49] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, not really, other than that you are using the vesa driver, can you put /var/log/Xorg.0.log up for me too?
[04:49] <CITguy> ok try this: sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[04:49] <johnadsfsdfdf> uname -a gives Linux mythbuntu 2.6.15-29-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Aug 29 13:20:33 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:49] <Berzerker> it's in there
[04:49] <jrib> andy__: what are you compiling?
[04:49] <Berzerker> start at "log:"
[04:49] <sivik> johnadsfsdfdf, man or cat /proc/version
[04:49] <johnadsfsdfdf> ok thanks
[04:50] <andy__> lib purple
[04:50] <andy__> libpurple
[04:50] <MasterShrek> johnadsfsdfdf, look in /etc/apt/sources.list and check out the end of the deb lines
[04:50] <johnadsfsdfdf> Linux version 2.6.15-29-386 (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)) #1 PREEMPT Wed Aug 29 13:20:33 UTC 2007
[04:50] <drewby> "If you telnet to a Unix computer, rather than using a Unix workstation, it is likely that your telnet program is a text-based program.  Be warned that you will not be able to plot anything from a text-based telnet connection.  If you want to do plotting, use a graphics-based telnet program such as X-Win.  You will find an X-Win icon in most of the PCs in College of Engineering's Computer Labs."
[04:50] <drewby> that's what the website says
[04:50] <MasterShrek> andy__, if you are using feisty, libpurple wont be available
[04:50] <jrib> andy__: you realize that in 3 days, feisty will have this packaged?
[04:50] <sivik> CITguy, what else can i try
[04:50] <CITguy> did you run that?
[04:50] <andy__> hmm, no pruple for fiesty
[04:51] <andy__> not even from source?
[04:51] <MasterShrek> andy__, of course from source
[04:51] <drewby> I can't figure out what it wants me to do, though.
[04:51] <andy__> k that's all that matters
[04:51] <jrib> andy__: ack, I meant *gutsy*
[04:51] <andy__> oh
[04:51] <blazemonger> ubuntu is good for driver support
[04:51] <andy__> I don't think im going to use gutsy
[04:51] <Jordan_U> drewby, What are you trying to do?
[04:51] <sivik> CITguy, did i run what, i missed it and i'm in cli
[04:51] <drewby> Use matlab remotely
[04:51] <Ward1983> is there a decent channel about HTML anywhere? (not #html they don't answer there)
[04:51] <CITguy> run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[04:52] <blazemonger> is there a use for a frfee os when there's no drivers that take advantage of hardware?
[04:52] <TIMUR> Guys what about these GuYS who  sAY that PClinuxOS is a lot FASTER and BETTER than Ubuntu ??? are they right ???
[04:52] <Berzerker> you need drivers to use hardware effectively
[04:52] <drewby> I can get a no-graphics version of matlab with ssh.
[04:52] <Jordan_U> !best | TIMUR
[04:52] <ubotu> TIMUR: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:52] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, i think i need a different log file, thats the newest one from when you just started, try Xorg.0.log.old
[04:52] <jrib> andy__: well libglib2.0-dev is what you asked but you probably just want to do: apt-get build-dep gaim
[04:52] <blazemonger> Berzerker: right now im trying gnewsense on a laptop a free distro
[04:52] <sivik> maybe its going to do it correctly now
[04:52] <blazemonger> supposedly
[04:52] <kc> so i am sure this is old news however i cant seem to find a fix for the 3d chess game on fawn so can someone please point me in the right direction, keeping in mind that i just started using this less than 24 hours ago
[04:52] <blazemonger> yet if free means taking out 3d drivers
[04:53] <blazemonger> i dont know if its worth it
[04:53] <Jordan_U> TIMUR, PClinuxOS is a quality distro, Ubuntu is also, try both and decide which you prefer
[04:53] <andy__> no glib in synaptic
[04:53] <blazemonger> but the concept of free open software is good..
[04:53] <jrib> drewby: you probably want to forward X by passing -X
[04:53] <MasterShrek> kc, there are more fun things to do than play chess =)
[04:53] <orionr> is there a way to make an icon on the applications menu that when clicked runs a command for you?
[04:53] <TIMUR> Jordan_U:  BUt they claim PclinusOS is faster AND more out of the BOX
[04:53] <drewby> jrib: I'm new to linux, could you elaborate just a smidgeon?
[04:53] <kc> while i agree shrek, i am still new to this and am open to suggestions to better things to be doing with my time here
[04:53] <jrib> andy__: I just gave you the package name.  pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list if you don't have the package
[04:53] <MasterShrek> orionr, right click the menu and click edit menus, and add one in there
[04:53] <sivik> CITguy, working on it now
[04:54] <Jordan_U> TIMUR, Since you can use the exact same applications on both, and neither is known as a lightweight distro the claims of noticable speed difference are probably bogus
[04:54] <CITguy> ok
[04:54] <jrib> drewby: ssh -X user@host
[04:54] <drewby> jrib: thanks, I'll give it a shot
[04:54] <jrib> !3dchess > kc (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:54] <rryan> blazemonger :  Free 3d-accelerated drivers are a result of industry problems, and should be considered transient. ATI has already opened up their specifications which is paving the way to a good Free 3D accelerated ATI Driver
[04:54] <TIMUR> Jordan_U:  what about the fact that is has build in Java, PDF, mp3 ,mpeg support ?
[04:54] <Ward1983> is there a decent channel about HTML anywhere? (not #html they don't answer there)
[04:55] <Berzerker> ohttp://pastebin.org/4941
[04:55] <rryan> and NVIDIA is working with open source efforts to help improve the quality the NVIDIA Free driver
[04:55] <Berzerker> http://pastebin.org/4941
[04:55] <orionr> MasterShrek: thanks
[04:55] <Jordan_U> TIMUR, Ask them to define "more" and explain if the difference in speed is default applications used or some magic speed booster technology :)
[04:55] <sivik> now its saying the installed version is different than the kernal version, but i just ran the ./Nvidia*.run --add-this-kernel
[04:56] <PupUsercab2ce> Anybody know how to make my MacBook Linux partition show up in the rEFit menu?
[04:56] <TIMUR> Jordan_U:  They say BETTER kernel and optimization
[04:56] <drewby> oooh okay
[04:56] <JEFFmasterFLEX> i would have to agree that PCLinuxOS is a faster distro. it is definitly more responsive
[04:56] <andy__> arg I don't like this pastebin
[04:56] <CITguy> sivik: ok, run the *custom.run file
[04:56] <drewby> jrib: so what I did was start X remotely?
[04:56] <jrib> andy__: use any you want
[04:56] <sivik> CITguy, did that already
[04:56] <andy__> mind if I im you jrib
[04:56] <Jordan_U> TIMUR, Go to Applications -> Add / Remove in the top left of the screen, search for "restricted extras" click it and install it and you will have flash java mp3 etc
[04:57] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, im totally lost, i got no idea why its not working
[04:57] <CITguy> sivik: you ran the --add-this-kernel? and then the *custom.run?
[04:57] <jrib> drewby: if you run a gui app like "xclock" it will show up on your screen
[04:57] <jrib> andy__: please use the channel
[04:57] <Jordan_U> TIMUR, Again, try both for yourself
[04:57] <andy__> okay
[04:57] <drewby> jrib: I love you.
[04:57] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, maybe try the beta driver from there?
[04:57] <zylstra555> Hello. I need to get FTP running properly. I would like to use FTP to access my public HTML files. How do I vsftpd to do this? I simply cant figure it out
[04:57] <sivik> CIGguy, same issue
[04:57] <sivik> CITguy, same issue
[04:58] <CITguy> what's the error?
[04:58] <trend> hello
[04:58] <sivik> CITguy, same as before, the module is not the same is the driver
[04:58] <sivik> i can't pastebin it, because i'm in CLI
[04:58] <CITguy> ok, now run: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-kernel-common
[04:58] <zylstra555> FTP itself is working, but I just dont see anything when I log in using the usual user credentials
[04:58] <adante> ok
[04:59] <andy__> what category would glib be under synaptic
[04:59] <adante> am i missing something with regards to emacs
[04:59] <orionr> Does anyone have any ideas how i would go about doing this? I have a laptop and a deskop, i want to run duel monitors at once using the LCD on my laptop as an extended desktop screen.
[04:59] <adante> i installed emacs21
[04:59] <adante> when i run emacs on the command line it just sits there?
[04:59] <jimmacdonald> can some help me with a driver issue?
[04:59] <MasterShrek> andy__, just search it
[04:59] <emman> naa gud girl?
[04:59] <adante> how do i get emacs working :o
[04:59] <onj> What happened?
[04:59] <jimmacdonald> it appears to be with the new nvidia driver that came out.
[04:59] <trend> i'm trying to figure out why my linux server keeps freezing up.. monitor/keyboard/ethernet connection don't respond after about 2 days of uptime.. ideas on how to diag?
[04:59] <onj> I was on here then all of a sudden I couldn't type anything
[04:59] <Berzerker> MasterShrek, there are no beta drivers.
[04:59] <eclecticus> question - the new version of Ubuntu lets you share files back and forth between two OS's.. Linux and Vista correct ? I can save and retrieve files back and forth between the two partitions? we used to only be able to read from one.. and not save between either of them, is this correct?
[04:59] <PreZLaptop> damn :( - beryl got removed from GG
[04:59] <sivik> what was that again, it went to the top before i finished
[05:00] <MasterShrek> eclecticus, linux can read/write ntfs
[05:00] <CITguy> sivik: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-kernel-common
[05:00] <mobodo> where are the user passwords stored in ubuntu?
[05:00] <xp_prg> can I please have some help my double quotes key does not work :(
[05:00] <eclecticus> MasterShrek: So i can download torrents on Ubuntu, and save them to my windows Partition ?
[05:00] <xp_prg> any idea how I could fix this?
[05:00] <MasterShrek> mobodo, /etc/passwd
[05:00] <sivik> mobodo, /etc/passwd
[05:00] <Cray11233> Salut/Hello Pascal
[05:00] <jrib> sivik: you can pastebin if you want... for example: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | netcat jrib.dyndns.org 12345
[05:00] <Cray11233> retourne te coucher, il est tard, lol
[05:01] <sivik> jrib: i'm not having any issues with sources.list
[05:01] <Berzerker> citguy, what's after that
[05:01] <jrib> sivik: thus the "example" part
[05:01] <mobodo> sivik: no passwords there
[05:01] <MasterShrek> eclecticus, i guess, but it would probably be better to copy them when u are booted into windows, using the ext driver for windows, especially if you are using vista because vista will probably bitch at you for writing to it
[05:01] <sivik> mobodo, you can't view the passwords
[05:01] <jrib> sivik: what do you need to pastebin?
[05:01] <CITguy> run "sudo dpkg-reconfigur -phigh xserver-xorg" and set your options for your graphics card
[05:01] <endra> eclecticus: as far as I know, windows can read/write ext2/3 with the driver from fs-driver.org . And Linux can only read NTFS. I think they have this ntfs-3g or something that can also write
[05:01] <sivik> jrib: i don't need to pastebin anything
[05:02] <zylstra555> Hello. I need to get FTP running properly. I would like to use FTP to access my public HTML files. How do I vsftpd to do this? I simply cant figure it out.
[05:02] <eclecticus> endra: yeah it's supposed to be in Gutsy
[05:02] <CITguy> I meant: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:02] <mobodo> sivik: so, what if I wanted to reuse the passwords from user's account in apache? any easy way to do that, do you know?
[05:02] <onj> The audigy still won't work
[05:02] <Berzerker> pl
[05:02] <Berzerker> ok
[05:02] <Berzerker> now what
[05:02] <MasterShrek> eclecticus, you can install ntfs-3g in feisty, but vista may not be happy with you
[05:02] <sivik> CITguy, when i install the linux-restricted-`uname -r` it install the nvidia-kernel-common
[05:03] <onj> it says it's using emu10k1 though
[05:03] <Berzerker> so I reinstall nvidia-kernel?
[05:03] <CITguy> hang a sec
[05:03] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, try nvidia-glx-new maybe, but i really dunno what to tell you
[05:03] <eclecticus> MasterShrek: ntfs-3g only works with XP ?
[05:03] <sivik> quit
[05:03] <sivik> exit
[05:03] <MasterShrek> CITguy, me too, same problem lol
[05:03] <Berzerker> I tried that
[05:03] <Berzerker> didn't work
[05:04] <MasterShrek> eclecticus, it works with vista too, but ive heard of a few people not being able to boot vista afterwards or something, but ive never personally done it, so i cant say for sure
[05:04] <CITguy> ok, are you both getting a nvidia kernel version mismatch error?
[05:04] <Berzerker> I don't know
[05:04] <eclecticus> ouch, that sucks
[05:04] <Berzerker> Mine just says "failed to load nvidia kernel module"
[05:04] <Berzerker> the weird thing is
[05:04] <Berzerker> it says under it
[05:04] <MasterShrek> CITguy, both have 8600 gt
[05:04] <Berzerker> screens found, but no usable configuration
[05:05] <jrib> Berzerker: try to keep what you say on a single line, or else the channel becomes too busy
[05:05] <Berzerker> then under that, it says fatal error: no screens found
[05:05] <xp_prg> I seriously need help with my double quote button on my keybaord any ideas?
[05:05] <MasterShrek> xp_prg, whats wrong with it?
[05:05] <xp_prg>
[05:05] <xp_prg> that is what it gives me
[05:05] <alpine> could anyone please help with open office spellchecker dictionary? i am unable to add a new ditionary...
[05:05] <xp_prg> its like messed up
[05:05] <MasterShrek> interesting
[05:06] <xp_prg> it is a compaq evo n1000v laptop
[05:06] <CITguy> which driver did you guys download from NVIDIA?
[05:07] <xp_prg> MasterShrek, any ideas?
[05:07] <rryan> xp_prg : from the command line, type 'xev',  then hit the double quote key and tell us if anything comes up.  Hit CTRL+C to quit after trying
[05:07] <CITguy> sivik, Berzerker: what is the full name of the *.run file you have?
[05:07] <rryan> (it's possible xev isn't installed by default, in that case type 'sudo apt-get install xev')
[05:07] <Berzerker> I don't have it anymore
[05:07] <Berzerker> it was 100.14.19
[05:08] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[05:08] <therion> hello
[05:08] <MasterShrek> xp_prg, not really, are you sure you chose the right keyboard on teh install?
[05:08] <xp_prg> rryan well the log scrolls but nothing comes up on the screen
[05:08] <raddy> Does Ubuntu supports Delta-Updates?
[05:08] <MasterShrek> raddy, whats that?
[05:08] <xp_prg> MasterShrek I think so
[05:09] <raddy> MasterShrek: Incremental Updates
[05:09] <rryan> xp_prg :  so when you first start it up, a bunch of stuff will go by, but if yo udont move your mouse or tyep anything it should become stilll, then if you hit your double quote key nothing comes up ?
[05:09] <MasterShrek> raddy, um....no? i have no idea whats the benefit of that?
[05:09] <xp_prg> rryan you want to see the log output?
[05:09] <smurnjiff> raddy: Do you mean like .diff updates so less to download?
[05:10] <CITguy> Berzerker: try downloading the 9639 version at http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9639.html and try restarting the process over
[05:10] <xp_prg> a window comes up with a black square
[05:10] <rryan> xp_prg:  Sure. If nothing comes up, then it's probable that your X server has the wrong keyboard layout for your keyboard.
[05:10] <raddy> smurnjiff : exactly
[05:10] <xp_prg> rryan can you pretty please tell me how to fix that?
[05:10] <Berzerker> --add-kernel-here or no
[05:10] <Berzerker> or w/e that was
[05:10] <smurnjiff> raddy: I'm guessing that would be difficult to do because this is a binary distro.
[05:10] <CITguy> from what I can tell, your graphics cards are fully supported by the driver. However, in my experience, the newest driver isn't necessarily the most stable.
[05:11] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, you shouldnt have to
[05:11] <Berzerker> k
[05:11] <Berzerker> brb
[05:11] <raddy> smurnjiff: Opensuse does
[05:11] <raddy> smurnjiff: Mandriva does
[05:11] <drewby> hrmm
[05:12] <rryan> xp_prg : Could I see the output from xev ?
[05:12] <smurnjiff> raddy: Oh, well I'm pretty sure Ubuntu doesn't have that functionality.
[05:12] <drewby> when I ssh -X user@host matlab gives me a weird licensing error
[05:12] <CITguy> Berzerker: download the *.run file, run ./NVIDIA*9639*.run, then try starting X
[05:12] <xp_prg> ok one sec
[05:12] <drewby> Server node is down or not respoinding
[05:12] <MasterShrek> CITguy, he left to try it
[05:12] <CITguy> ok
[05:12] <drewby> but xclock works perfectly
[05:13] <raddy> smurnjiff :  would it be in near future?
[05:13] <therion> Guys, a little question: how i can set my wireless in monitor mode with drivers emulated via ndiswrapper?
[05:13] <smurnjiff> raddy: I don't think the devs think it is necessary.
[05:13] <MasterShrek> therion, i dunno if airmon supports ndiswrapper, what wifi card are you using?
[05:14] <Apeezee> any of you guys try the quake wars demo yet?
[05:14] <Berzerker> same error
[05:14] <rryan> drewby : That's likely not a problem with ubuntu. It could be a problem with the configuration of matlab on teh computer remotely. Do you know other people for whom it works ?
[05:14] <therion> i use bcmwl5 drivers
[05:14] <Berzerker> and now my screen resolution is screwed up with vesa.
[05:14] <drewby> rryan: I know matlab works on the computers locally
[05:14] <MasterShrek> therion, you do know that broadcom cards are supported in-kernel now right? you just need firmware
[05:14] <orionr> berzerker: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:14] <therion> it's a broadcom.. but now i don't remember :S
[05:14] <MasterShrek> 43xx
[05:14] <raddy> Does Ubuntu still sticking with brown art-work?
[05:15] <CITguy> Berzerker: run "sudo apt-get install libc6 libc6-dev make linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[05:15] <drewby> rryan, perhaps I should vpn into the school network first, could it be possibly the licensing server only works in school IP-ranges?
[05:15] <MasterShrek> raddy, kinda orange-brownish for gnome, blue for kde
[05:15] <onj> sdlg
[05:15] <onj> [fdgd'fg
[05:15] <CITguy> anybody here running the 7.10rc?
[05:15] <onj> ...
[05:15] <MasterShrek> drewby, that seems like it would make sense to me
[05:15] <onj> now I can't join another channel
[05:15] <Berzerker> all already newest version
[05:15] <MasterShrek> CITguy, i am
[05:15] <rryan> drewby : If Matlab can run locally, then it shouldn't cause an issue, because X forwarding in SSH runs the program on the machine you are ssh'd into, it just forwards teh window to you. Matlab doesn't know that the window is going to you.
[05:15] <onj> I'm not online am i?
[05:16] <Dan_L> Anybody ever gotten an error with a live disk?  Is it common?  Or is something very wrong?
[05:16] <smurnjiff> I thought they were going green.
[05:16] <rryan> drewby : Is a local copy of matlab already running on that machine ? Could it be that the license only allows one copy running at a time ?
[05:16] <smurnjiff> Dan_L: Which livecd?
[05:16] <therion> MasterShrek, it's not supported, doesn't exist an open alternative for my drivers?
[05:16] <Apeezee> I think i have a fairly simple question...  I downloaded the quake wars demo and the extension is a .run file and it gives an error when i try and execute it
[05:16] <therion> for broadcom
[05:16] <rryan> drewby  : Are you sharing the machine with anyone ? Could the license server have already passed out all available licenses ? Those are all problems I run into when using my campus's matlab licenses.
[05:16] <Ashfire908> anyone here heard of "autodesk"?
[05:17] <drewby> rryan: that's entirely possible
[05:17] <MasterShrek> therion, what card is it? 4311? 4306? 4318?
[05:17] <Berzerker> citguy, all newest version
[05:17] <xp_prg> http://pastebin.com/m4539e0a1
[05:17] <drewby> rryan: would ps -A | grep matlab return anything, if so?
[05:17] <therion> BCM4306 802.11b/g
[05:17] <rryan> drewby : if it's already running on that computer then that would show you it
[05:17] <CITguy> Berzerker: run "./NVIDIA*9639*.run --add-this-kernel"
[05:17] <MasterShrek> therion, its supported, u jsut need firmware, i can give you a link...
[05:17] <drewby> rryan: okay well it returned nothing
[05:17] <therion> Thanks :-)
[05:18] <Neatchee> There's one thing in windows that I miss:  When you have two open windows, you can drag a file from the background window to the foreground window without stealing focus (in other words, the foreground window stays in the foreground even after clicking on the background window).  Is it possible to make ubuntu/gnome behave this way?
[05:18] <Berzerker> command not found
[05:18] <drewby> it says Server node is down or not respoinding
[05:18] <drewby> in the license manager error dialog
[05:18] <xp_prg> ryan does that explain it at all?
[05:18] <rryan> drewby : hmm,  well that's definitely odd. I can do R2007a over X forwarding with no issues..  so its definitely possible.   Every now and then our license server goes down or runs out of licenses to give everyone
[05:18] <kc> jrib thanks for the link i am working on geting that download, but now i am having some trouble installing BrRL the installer wont open something about character coding any thoughts
[05:19] <drewby> rryan: when I ssh into the computer without starting x, matlab works, but won't plot anything
[05:19] <jrib> kc: can you pastebin the error?
[05:19] <rryan> xp_prg : I didn't see when you sent it, where did you put it ?
[05:19] <kc> wait one
[05:19] <xp_prg> http://pastebin.com/m4539e0a1
[05:19] <Berzerker> citguy, command not found
[05:19] <kc> Could not open the file /home/kc/BtRLDemoInstaller.run using the Western (ISO-8859-15) character coding.
[05:19] <MasterShrek> therion, extract the file here: http://www.mediafire.com/?bqn8x4eancv to /lib/firmware, make sure ndiswrapper isnt loaded, and then modprobe bcm43xx, it may be worth a restart after stopping ndiswrapper
[05:19] <greencookie> Hi
[05:20] <CITguy> Berzerker: cd to the directory where the NVIDIA run file is located
[05:20] <zylstra555> I need to find my public_html folder on my Linux server. Where exactly would it be by default?
[05:20] <Jordan_U> therion, Or just use restricted driver manager :)
[05:20] <Berzerker> I am in the directory
[05:20] <greencookie> I'm new to ubuntu and I was in #kubuntu for the longest time asking for ubuntu help hehe:)
[05:20] <therion> MasterShrek, thanks again mate..
[05:20] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, ./NV<hit tab>
[05:20] <Berzerker> nothing
[05:20] <ArtVandalae> zylstra555: in your home dir
[05:20] <Berzerker> ./ doesn't work for me for some reason
[05:20] <MasterShrek> therion, come back and ill help you if u need it, ive set up many of these cards :)
[05:20] <rryan> drewby : That's definitely odd, and would suggest that it's something wrong with x forwarding.   I'm out of ideas I'm afraid
[05:20] <jrib> kc: wait... what is btrl?
[05:20] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, sudo ./
[05:20] <bullgard4> What are the major differences between PostgreSQL and MySQL?
[05:20] <drewby> rryan: well I've never actually gotten vpn to work in ubuntu
[05:20] <ArtVandalae> bullgard4: google it, there's a lot of comparisons
[05:20] <kc> behind the red line something i got off of games arena
[05:20] <Berzerker> tab worked
[05:20] <Berzerker> but command not found
[05:20] <Neatchee> There's one thing in windows that I miss:  When you have two open windows, you can drag a file from the background window to the foreground window without stealing focus (in other words, the foreground window stays in the foreground even after clicking on the background window).  Is it possible to make ubuntu/gnome behave this way?
[05:21] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, chmod a+x NVIDIA<hit tab> then try to run it
[05:21] <zylstra555> thanks
[05:21] <ArtVandalae> bullgard4: for a start, postgresql can be considered "completely" free
[05:21] <MasterShrek> Neatchee, probably somehow
[05:21] <Berzerker> ok there we go
[05:21] <Berzerker> brb
[05:21] <jrib> kc: how are you running itL
[05:21] <ArtVandalae> bullgard4, I think MySQL is not allowed for commercial use, or some strange clause like that
[05:21] <Neatchee> MasterShrek: yes, well, I was hoping for guidance on that matter, not just a reassurance that it's possible haha :P
[05:21] <therion> Bye
[05:22] <kc> i dont understand jrib
[05:22] <jrib> kc: how are you running the file?
[05:22] <MasterShrek> Neatchee, well there are other things that are much nicer, like being about to scroll a window that is behind another window without having to switch the focus
[05:22] <kc> really i am so new to this i am double clicking on it
[05:23] <MasterShrek> Neatchee, as far as the thing you are talking about, i would bet that kde could probably do it much easier than gnome
[05:23] <Neatchee> oh yes, i know.  I've been using ubuntu for almost 2 years now.  Won't be going back any time soon.  Just one thing i'd like to be able to do :)
[05:23] <drewby> rryan: I can ping the server from here, so I doubt it's blocking outside licenses
[05:23] <rryan> drewby: I googled a bit, does anything happen if you type 'lmdebug'  ?
[05:23] <greencookie> please help me.
[05:23] <greencookie> :)
[05:23] <Neatchee> Ahh.  You're probably right
[05:23] <supinfo> hao a
[05:23] <supinfo> xixi
[05:23] <xp_prg> ryan?
[05:23] <greencookie> im new to linux
[05:23] <supinfo> me too
[05:23] <MasterShrek> greencookie, whats the problem?
[05:23] <kc> me too
[05:23] <greencookie> How to get my ati card to work at higher resolutions?
[05:23] <jrib> kc: there are a lot of nice games packaged in the repositories that will be easier to install... do you know about APT and add/remove?
[05:23] <drewby> rryan: I'll give it a try
[05:24] <MasterShrek> !ati | greencookie
[05:24] <ubotu> greencookie: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:24] <greencookie> i use restricted driver then x crashes
[05:24] <MasterShrek> hmm
[05:24] <supinfo> who can tell me ??
[05:24] <kc> nope jrib i am totally new but i am IT in RL so you can point me in the direction and i will figure it out
[05:24] <Berzerker> same error
[05:24] <MasterShrek> i dont know much about ati driver to be honest greencookie, except that they can be a problem to set up in linux
[05:24] <jrib> !games > kc (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:24] <Cray11233> hello
[05:24] <Jordan_U> greencookie, How did you install the drivers? Restricted Driver Manager?
[05:24] <zoidberg_> does anyone know how to mount and use a 3rd gen ipod via usb cable on ubuntu?
[05:24] <rryan> xp_prg: did you put hte output of xev in a pastebin somewhere?  sorry I must have missed it
[05:24] <xp_prg> rryan you here?
[05:24] <jrib> !software > kc (read the private message from ubotu)
[05:24] <kc> thanks again sir
[05:24] <xp_prg> http://pastebin.com/m4539e0a1
[05:24] <supinfo> i don't this is....
[05:25] <drewby> rryan: lmdebug is not a valid command, do you mean matlab -debug?
[05:25] <greencookie> Jordan_U:  I dont I goto System>restricted drivers then its there..just not enabled yet
[05:25] <Berzerker> citguy, same error.
[05:25] <jrib> kc: you want to stick to the repositories whenever possible in linux
[05:25] <greencookie> when i enable i get kicked off the GUI
[05:25] <greencookie> then I have to reinstall the whole ubuntu thing to get back.
[05:25] <rryan> drewby : hmm that might be it.. a matlab help manual referenced 'lmdebug' to debug problesm with acquiring a license.
[05:25] <kc> and how do i do that jrib or will the link teach me?
[05:25] <MasterShrek> greencookie, you dont have to reinstall everything
[05:25] <taggie> neatchee, my brain is failing me on how, but yes, very possible, quickly as a workaround, you can (like in windows) drag your item down onto the application title in the app-panel on the bottom of the screen and bring the other window back up front.
[05:25] <supinfo> hi
[05:25] <supinfo> hi
[05:25] <CITguy> ok, um ...
[05:25] <MasterShrek> greencookie, what kind of card is it?
[05:25] <greencookie> MasterShrek: please teach me how to get back without reinstalling
[05:25] <PaPaFD> Trying to a little cleaning up of old files  anyone know what all the file are in  /home/<user>/.local are and are they needed?
[05:26] <Neatchee> taggie: yeah, that's what i've been doing :P  Just wondered if there was an easy way to make it even easier :)
[05:26] <greencookie> Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 71a7
[05:26] <greencookie> MasterShrek: Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 71a7
[05:26] <jrib> kc: link teaches... feel free to ask for more details if something is not clear though I may not be around in a few
[05:26] <MasterShrek> greencookie, type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:26] <MasterShrek> greencookie, use the vesa driver
[05:26] <kc> kk i am working on it
[05:26] <drewby> rryan: hrrm, nope, same error, no extra output
[05:26] <kc> thanks again
[05:26] <greencookie> MasterShrek: what does it do?
[05:26] <CITguy> Berzerker: let's back up. Have you removed the nvidia-kernel-common package?
[05:26] <Neatchee> kc: ask anyway.  Someone in here (like myself) will surely assist you if jrib isn't around :)
[05:26] <greencookie> !vesa
[05:26] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[05:26] <Jordan_U> greencookie, How did you install the fglrx driver?
[05:26] <Berzerker> uhm
[05:26] <Berzerker> I did
[05:26] <MasterShrek> greencookie, reconfigures your xserver
[05:26] <zoidberg_> does anyone know how to mount and use a 3rd gen ipod via usb cable on ubuntu?
[05:27] <MasterShrek> !x | greencookie
[05:27] <greencookie> Jordan_U: I'd like to know that as well:)
[05:27] <ubotu> greencookie: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:27] <CITguy> Berzerker: reinstall it
[05:27] <Berzerker> then I installed it after trying startx
[05:27] <Berzerker> when it didn't work
[05:27] <Berzerker> And that ended up giving me the same error.
[05:27] <CITguy> ok, what is the driver that is set in teh xorg.conf?
[05:27] <greencookie> MasterShrek: how do i know if i'm not already using vesa?
[05:27] <Berzerker> right now, it's vesa
[05:27] <jrib> PaPaFD: look inside, it's a bunch of settings
[05:27] <CITguy> ok
[05:27] <greencookie> i havent tweaked anything since installed ubuntu..its fresh off the disk.
[05:27] <Berzerker> it was nv when I installed 9639
[05:28] <Berzerker> and it was nvidia when I tried 100.14.19
[05:28] <MasterShrek> greencookie, you probably are, but if you cant get back into a gui, thats how you would reconfigure it back to vesa
[05:28] <CITguy> it was?
[05:28] <greencookie> oh ty MasterShrek
[05:28] <Berzerker> I also tried it with nvidia, and that didn't work
[05:28] <jrib> !enter | Berzerker
[05:28] <ubotu> Berzerker: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:28] <CITguy> Berzerker: have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" and setting the driver to nvidia?
[05:28] <riotkittie> !ipod
[05:28] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[05:28] <Berzerker> I'm answering multiple questions, I can't keep everything on one line...
[05:28] <Berzerker> Yes I tried that, it didn't work.
[05:28] <bullgard4> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomatedProblemReports: "Crashes of userspace applications should be detected automatically so the user gets an easy to use frontend for adding information to the problem report and is offered to send the report to our database." Are ther other applications yet besides 'userspace applications'?
[05:28] <greencookie> For ipod get amarok!
[05:29] <greencookie> !amarok
[05:29] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[05:29] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, to tell you the truth, now that i think about it my friend has an 8600 and he couldnt get it to work either...hes been using vesa, you may just have to wait until they release a new driver
[05:29] <kyleBAKED> Is there a way to completely backup your home directory?
[05:29] <Berzerker> I can't use beryl/compiz fusion can I..?
[05:29] <MasterShrek> kyleBAKED, where would you like to back it up to?
[05:29] <CITguy> Berzerker: afraid not
[05:29] <riotkittie> kyleBAKED: there are many ways to do it.
[05:29] <Berzerker> Back to OS X, it is.
[05:29] <MasterShrek> eww
[05:29] <riotkittie> Berzerker: happy trails.
[05:29] <bullgard4> kyleBAKED: Yes there are. I am doing it using rsnapshot.
[05:29] <Berzerker> Frankly, I like OS X much better than linux, so far.
[05:29] <CITguy> you've got to have a fully functional graphics driver to allow for the desktop effects to work
[05:29] <greencookie> how can i join this channel using terminal? i got irssi
[05:30] <kyleBAKED> i have my home directory on a partition which is full, and i need to back up my home so i can resize that partition
[05:30] <MasterShrek> Berzerker, to each his own
[05:30] <riotkittie> that's great.
[05:30] <Berzerker> I just wanted to try out Ubuntu on my MBP, but it doesn't work.
[05:30] <kyleBAKED> which would be the easiest way to do it
[05:30] <MasterShrek> greencookie, irssi, then type: /server irc.ubuntu.com then: /join #ubuntu
[05:30] <Berzerker> So, thanks anyway.
[05:30] <rryan> xp_prg: it looks like your " key is mapped incorrectly to dead_diaresus
[05:30] <bullgard4> greencookie: Just type into your command line /j #ubuntu
[05:30] <CITguy> that's alright, sorry we couldn't help you out
[05:31] <PaPaFD> jrib found what it was there were 800 meg of files in the Trash Directory inside of .local that were not showing up in my trash
[05:31] <Nebular> I'm having trouble getting my joystick to work. When I run jstest /dev/input/js0 it says no such device
[05:31] <greencookie> Thanks guys.
[05:31] <Newbuntu2> is there a way to make a live cd/install ubuntu off a USB drive?
[05:31] <xp_prg> rryan please tell me how to fix this I beg of you :>
[05:31] <jrib> PaPaFD: interesting
[05:31] <Avariel> Gnome or KDE ?
[05:31] <rryan> xp_prg:  try the following command :  xmodmap -e "keynum 48 = apostrophe quotedbl"
[05:31] <MasterShrek> Avariel, kde!
[05:31] <riotkittie> Newbuntu2: sorry, the later it gets, the dumber i am. do you want to actually install from a USB drive, or do you want to use  a LiVe CD and have your settings stick
[05:32] <CaptainMorgan> I have a machine that runs Fiesty in which grub defaults to, my second OS on the same hdd is Windows, I have second hdd that is only partitioned and I would like to install Solaris 10 on it, if I install solaris 10 on the second hdd, how is the bootloader - grub affected?
[05:32] <CITguy> Avariel: they've both got pros and cons
[05:32] <Avariel> what are some pros and cons for example ?
[05:32] <Avariel> mainly speaking
[05:32] <xp_prg> xmodmap -e "keynum 48 = apostrophe quotedbl"
[05:32] <xp_prg> xmodmap:  unknown command on line commandline:1
[05:32] <xp_prg> xmodmap:  1 error encountered, aborting.
[05:32] <riotkittie> Avariel:  how about you install whichever desktop you're currently lacking and decide for yourself?
[05:32] <MasterShrek> CaptainMorgan, you shuld be able to choose not to install a bootloader on solaris, then just add appropriate entries into your grub on ubuntu
[05:33] <Neatchee> Avariel:  I vote for gnome, personally.  It's all about personal preference
[05:33] <Newbuntu2> riotkittie: I keep getting I/O read errors from the liveCD, so I'm blaming the CD drive. Im trying to bypass it by going the USB way
[05:33] <CaptainMorgan> MasterShrek, ah.. thanks
[05:33] <rryan> ack sry
[05:33] <rryan> xp:prg try :   xmodmap -e "keycode 48 = apostrophe quotedbl"
[05:33] <CITguy> KDE - larger memory usage than GNOME, confusing interface, great apps
[05:33] <CITguy> GNOME - Very Simple, maybe too simple, bulky, not a lot of eye appeal
[05:33] <MasterShrek> Newbuntu2, did you check the cd for defects?
[05:34] <xp_prg> it is working now!!!
[05:34] <xp_prg> wowwowoww
[05:34] <ArtVandalae> Actually, I think KDE uses less RAM than GNOME
[05:34] <CITguy> but I'd have to agree with riotkittie. install both and try them out
[05:34] <rryan> ok ... so its definitely your keybaord setting
[05:34] <Newbuntu2> riotkittie: I downloaded the image 3 times, and burnt ~5 cds... ARGH!
[05:34] <rryan> xp_prg: you should try going to system > preferences > keyboard and making sure that you have teh right keyboard selected and keyboard layout
[05:34] <ArtVandalae> Newbuntu2: have you run md5 check on the iso?
[05:34] <rryan> I can't really tell you which one is right b/c i dont know what your keyboard is
[05:35] <edubuntu> I havent tweaked my kde 2 much yet
[05:35] <Newbuntu2> Artvandalae: not sure how to do that on my windows box
[05:35] <mrj> installing gnome and KDE is annoying, then you wind up with TONS of applications in your bars
[05:35] <kahrytan> Newbuntu2, do a md5sum check BEFORE burning
[05:35] <edubuntu> it laggs out on me though i know that it eats my ram
[05:35] <riotkittie> !md5
[05:35] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[05:35] <rryan> but the command I just had you do is soemthing you'd have to type every time .. which is bad. if you have the right layout selected, you wont have to type that every time
[05:35] <ArtVandalae> Newbuntu2: google "md5 for windows", I think there's a free program called toaster or something, a single executable program
[05:35] <edubuntu> Gnome betta 4 me till i put more in this laptop
[05:35] <xp_prg> rryan I did try that, it all looks right to me
[05:36] <MasterShrek> xp_prg, you can just add that xmodmap command to /etc/rc.local and it shouldnt bother u anymore
[05:36] <xp_prg> MasterShrek ok :)
[05:36] <Pie-rate> i love having a local APT mirror. i just installed kubuntu-desktop in less than a minute!
[05:36] <rryan> xp_prg: I gotta get going, but at least that'll get you heading in the right direction :)
[05:37] <xp_prg> thanks rryan!
[05:37] <Sweeper> hey, I've got a fresh install of 7.04, reboots right after grub loads
[05:37] <kahrytan> Pie-rate, did you have kde apps installed before ?
[05:37] <Sweeper> nothing in messages, reinstalling grubs no worky
[05:38] <MasterShrek> Sweeper, remove the work splash from the kernel lines in your /boot/grub/menu.lst and try again
[05:38] <smurnjiff> Sweeper: What's in your menu.lst?
[05:38] <MasterShrek> word*
[05:38] <PupUsercab2ce> Can anyone here help me get my Ubuntu partition booting from rEFit on my MacBook Pro?
[05:38] <Sweeper> I shall try!
[05:38] <drewby> rryan: I managed to get somewhere with lmstat
[05:38] <MasterShrek> PupUsercab2ce, what is rEFit?
[05:38] <CITguy> has anyone any experience in setting up a local apt server?
[05:38] <MasterShrek> CITguy, Pie-rate does apparently
[05:39] <CITguy> Pie-rate?
[05:39] <Sweeper> MasterShrek: hmm, can that be done from the grub prompt?
[05:39] <PupUsercab2ce> MasterShrek: Think of it as a graphical grub for EFI machines.
 i love having a local APT mirror. i just installed kubuntu-desktop in less than a minute!
[05:39] <Sweeper> like, during boot? or am I gonna have to mount with the livecd?
[05:39] <MasterShrek> no idea PupUsercab2ce,try looking at the docs for it
[05:39] <MasterShrek> Sweeper, either way
[05:39] <Sweeper> ok
[05:40] <CITguy> MasterShrek: what is Pie-rate?
[05:40] <Sweeper> it's just that I'm walking someone though this on irc, and don't feel like doing the whole chebang :P
[05:40] <MasterShrek> CITguy, a user
[05:40] <MasterShrek> he left tho
[05:40] <CITguy> oh, nm
[05:40] <MasterShrek> =)
[05:40] <drewby> rryan: lmstat tells me that that the license manager server (lmgrd) on the server mentioned in the license manager is not running
[05:40] <kyleBAKED> how can i change the home directory for a user?
[05:41] <MasterShrek> CITguy, hes around alot tho, so youll probably run into him again, but im sure there are docs out there for it, cant be too hard
[05:41] <CITguy> alright, thx
[05:41] <wizo> hey, in my /etc/network/interfaces, i have "auto lo", "iface lo inet loopback", "autho eth0" "iface eth0 inet dhcp" these lines should be sufficient for getting ip using dhcp yea?
[05:41] <MasterShrek> kyleBAKED, usermod --help
[05:41] <MasterShrek> wizo, didnt it work automatically before?
[05:41] <kyleBAKED> i have my home directory on a seperatly mounted partition, will usermod still work?
[05:42] <wizo> MasterShrek, it worked, then i tried to change it to static, which i couldnt get internet access, so now i'm trying to change it back to dhcp
[05:42] <MasterShrek> kyleBAKED, yes, but if you just mount it as /home/user that would probably work easier, you jsut have to make sure the permissions are correct
[05:42] <wizo> so i'm just checking if i've wrongly deleted any lines
[05:42] <Dialntone> i was just curious, how do i find a port -- im streaming media via VLC ... and im trying to get the port
[05:42] <greencookie> Phew!
[05:43] <MasterShrek> wizo, i dunno, try it :)
[05:43] <wizo> MasterShrek, it cant seem to get an ip or something
[05:43] <tonsofpcs> Anyone know of a uif2iso conversion utility?
[05:43] <greencookie> I just tried installing the ati driver..kicked me off. thanks to MasterShrek i reinstalled vesa
[05:43] <Dialntone> is there some sort of netstat <IP_ADDRESS> to find the port?
[05:43] <wizo> it says no dhcpoffers received
[05:43] <MasterShrek> Dialntone, there should be something in vlc's preferences that says what ports its broadcasting on
[05:43] <MasterShrek> wizo one sec, ill pastebin mine for you...
[05:43] <rouben> Dialntone: sudo netstat -anop | less
[05:43] <bullgard4> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomatedProblemReports: "Crashes of userspace applications should be detected automatically so the user gets an easy to use frontend for adding information to the problem report and is offered to send the report to our database." Are there other applications yet besides 'userspace applications'?
[05:43] <Dialntone> but it there's another way
[05:43] <wizo> MasterShrek, alright thanks :)
[05:44] <rouben> Dialntone: sudo netstat -anop | grep vlc
[05:44] <greencookie> MasterShrek: how can i use resolutions higher than 1024x768
[05:44] <MasterShrek> greencookie, its not that you reinstalled vesa, you just reconfigured to use it
[05:44] <rouben> I dunno, what's the binary for VLC?
[05:44] <Sweeper> MasterShrek: oi, apparently it's rebooting before stage 1.5
[05:44] <Dialntone> thanks m8
[05:44] <Dialntone> ur a genious
[05:44] <Dialntone> like me
[05:44] <rouben> no problem
[05:44] <MasterShrek> Sweeper, hmm, maybe not seeing your partitions?
[05:44] <greencookie> MasterShrek: thanks. Can i use higher resolution?
[05:44] <tonsofpcs> I found an old "all2iso" package for beos that includes uif2iso, I assume there's either source or a linux build, but I can't find the origin
[05:44] <Sweeper> MasterShrek: on a default install? :/
[05:45] <MasterShrek> greencookie, you shuld be able to set that when you reconfigure xorg, try that same command except leave out the -phigh
[05:45] <greencookie> ok thanks
[05:45] <MasterShrek> Sweeper, i woudlnt think so
[05:45] <Sweeper> I'll tell her to reinstall and use all defaults....
[05:45] <Les_Caesars> The fancy compiz effects don't work for me after I installed 7.10 RC. Should I expect this, or is it abnormal behavior?
[05:45] <Sweeper> silly british chicks using loonix
[05:46] <Les_Caesars> is there a way I can test my 3D acceleration?
[05:46] <Sweeper> Les_Caesars: glxgears
[05:46] <MasterShrek> wizo, i only have two lines: auto lo   and    iface lo inet loopback
[05:46] <Les_Caesars> thanks Sweeper
[05:46] <wizo> MasterShrek :O
[05:46] <MasterShrek> Les_Caesars, you need to install drivers for your vid card
[05:46] <err-or> did i disconnect?
[05:46] <wizo> MasterShrek, nothing about dhcp or whatever?
[05:47] <Les_Caesars> MasterShrek: Ubuntu 7.04 already figured them out for me when I isntalled. Why wouldn't 7.10?
[05:47] <MasterShrek> nothign for me wizo, my wired will do it automatically, my wireless i set up on the command line
[05:47] <MasterShrek> Les_Caesars, not sure...7.10 is still beta tho u gotta rememebr that
[05:47] <MasterShrek> err-or, your still here
[05:47] <Les_Caesars> glxgears runs just fine btw. Just tested. Sounds like a config problem
[05:47] <err-or> was my name always err-or?
[05:47] <err-or> i was dialntone,
[05:48] <err-or> noooo, now everyone in the house is mad at me....
[05:48] <Les_Caesars> 1600 fps
[05:48] <MasterShrek> err-or, no, Dialntone is stil here, so u musta got d'ced
[05:48] <Zombine> Anyone know where I can find an Xclient script?
[05:48] <MasterShrek> Les_Caesars, thats good
[05:48] <MasterShrek> Zombine, for what?
[05:48] <Les_Caesars> MasterShrek: So then, how do I jump from glxgears to compiz?
[05:48] <Zombine> 1600 Frames Per Second?  With what?
[05:48] <Les_Caesars> Zombine: glxgears
[05:48] <MasterShrek> Les_Caesars, not really sure, im bad with compiz, borked many installs of it lol
[05:48] <Zombine> MasterShrek: For Fluxbox window manager?
[05:49] <MasterShrek> Zombine, what would you liek to do with it?
[05:49] <Zombine> MasterShrek: nm, I know where it is already :D
[05:49] <nickrud> Les_Caesars: what kind of video card?
[05:49] <adante> hi, is anybody able to run emacs?
[05:49] <adante> i installed the package emacs21, when i try to run emacs it just sits there at the command line
[05:49] <Les_Caesars> nickrud: ATI Radeon 9550. Kinda old but it hasn't antiqued yet
[05:49] <greencookie> MasterShrek: i got irssi working but how do i view the ubuntu channel? right now im using konversation
[05:49] <Les_Caesars> runs Doom3 and Oblivion well
[05:49] <Zombine> MasterShrek: gonna permanently disable this damn touchpad tapping
[05:49] <MasterShrek> greencookie, /join #ubuntu
[05:50] <horsman> hello
[05:50] <greencookie> yep i did that..it says '^x' to view the channel
[05:50] <MasterShrek> ctrl+x
[05:50] <MasterShrek> maybe...
[05:50] <nickrud> Les_Caesars: I'm not sure about that one, but I think all you have to do is enable gldestop under preferences
[05:50] <horsman> anyone here know how to set up a freenode channel?
[05:50] <Les_Caesars> nickrud: And where would I find that/
[05:51] <Gancho-RJ> Algum brasileiro pra me ajudar, por favor ??
[05:51] <Snuxoll> horsman: /join your channel
[05:51] <nickrud> Les_Caesars: ah, ok. games work. system->preferences->gldesktop. if that works, ok. otherwise, you'll have a few steps
[05:51] <scguy318> !br | Gancho-RJ
[05:51] <calc> horsman: then message chanserv to set up stuff
[05:51] <horsman> ok
[05:51] <gregorovius> Gancho-RJ, go to #ubuntu-br
[05:51] <greencookie> MasterShrek: i press ctrl x but i dont see #ubuntu channel talk
[05:51] <tonsofpcs> found one on bebits with source, trying it
[05:51] <Les_Caesars> nickrud: lol. gldesktop isn't there. But I'll try it in the console
[05:51] <Gancho-RJ> Obrigado
[05:51] <greencoo1ie> hey
[05:52] <gregorovius> anybody having complete and random lockups with gutsy's latest kernel?
[05:52] <Gancho-RJ> !br
[05:52] <nickrud> Les_Caesars: you running gutsy, right (what's three days)
[05:52] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:52] <scguy318> !gutsy | gregorovius
[05:52] <ubotu> gregorovius: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[05:52] <Gancho-RJ> !br
[05:52] <greencoo1ie> MasterShrek: I got in!!
[05:52] <MasterShrek> woot
[05:52] <Les_Caesars> nickrud: yeah.  So I'm on 7.10 beta atm
[05:52] <Pseudoryx>
[05:52] <gregorovius> yes scguy318, I know i'm running gutsy....
[05:52] <nickrud> Les_Caesars: change to #ubuntu+1
[05:52] <greencoo1ie> MasterShrek: this is awesome. Thanks. so how do I view member list now?:) lol
[05:52] <wizo> MasterShrek, weird, i get "Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0" if i just have those 2 lines that you showed me
[05:52] <MasterShrek> gregorovius, im using a custom kernel, <IP_ADDRESS> :)
[05:52] <Pseudoryx>  Does anyone know how to enable UTF8 Unicode at text mode (I
[05:53] <Pseudoryx>  i'm using Server edition
[05:53] <MasterShrek> no idea greencoo1ie, its probably just a common irc command, and i dont know it lol
[05:53] <greencoo1ie> Rofl..all good man..
[05:53] <scguy318> gregorovius: thus you should ask in #ubuntu+1 I believe
[05:53] <MasterShrek> wizo, weird, its probably nothing to do with that file then
[05:53] <greencoo1ie> I just have this small thing it says [2:#ubuntu(+Lcfnt #ubuntu-unregged)]  at the bottom in blue.. should I be concerned?
[05:54] <gregorovius> scguy318, oh, you're right, thanks
[05:54] <greencoo1ie> And MasterShrek any way to turn off the "quit" and "join" messages?
[05:54] <greencoo1ie> !irssi
[05:54] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[05:54] <wizo> MasterShrek, alright, thanks anyway, i'll try it some other time :)
[05:54] <Pseudoryx>  Hi everyone, i have problem with starting X server with Nvidia driver
[05:55] <Pseudoryx>  Can someone help out?
[05:55] <MasterShrek> greencoo1ie, i dont know, i dont use irssi
[05:55] <adante> greencoo1ie: there are some good introductory guides on the irssi website i think, i found them very useful for getting acquainted
[05:55] <greencoo1ie> thanks adante.
[05:55] <greencoo1ie> !irssi
[05:55] <ubotu> irssi is a command line interface !IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help
[05:55] <MasterShrek> wizo, can u grab a dhcp address if you do it manually?
[05:55] <riotkittie> greencoo1ie: no. you should not be concerned about that.
[05:55] <Gancho-RJ> Alguem poderia me ajudar com uma duvida? Instalei o Ubuntu 7.04 Server e o Gnome, pois bem, nao consigo usar minha internet em modo grafico ou seja no Gnome, mas no terminal, consigo baixar todas as atualizacoes...? O que posso estar fazendo errado ?
[05:55] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, what card do u have?
[05:55] <gabilan> hi people. i u doin
[05:55] <MasterShrek> !es
[05:56] <gabilan> can u help me it just a commun problem i guess about compiz-fusion
[05:56] <MasterShrek> !es
[05:56] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: I have Gefore 7600,
[05:56] <wizo> MasterShrek, how can i do that :S
[05:56] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:56] <riotkittie> 2: is the window number. the rest is the channel that youe in, and the channel's modes
[05:56] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, what driver did u install?
[05:56] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: everything installed alright (Nvidia-glx,etc...)
[05:56] <greencoo1ie> I think i like Konversation better than irssi:)
[05:56] <greencoo1ie> hehe
[05:56] <scguy318> !br | Gancho-RJ
[05:56] <ubotu> Gancho-RJ: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:56] <riotkittie> s/youe/you're
[05:56] <greencoo1ie> I cant use terminal while irssi is running
[05:56] <gabilan> when i wanna start compiz, (compiz --replace or wth emblade) it gave me this: /usr/bin/compiz.real: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/compiz/libdecoration.so: undefined symbol: decor_apply_gravity
[05:56] <MasterShrek> wizo, sudo ifconfig eth0 up && sudo dhclient3 eth0
[05:56] <gabilan> what the hell..
[05:56] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: but when I use "startx" it said some problem with loading nvidia module
[05:56] <greencoo1ie> is there a way to swtich to terminal riotkittie
[05:57] <riotkittie> greencoo1ie: you can open another tab, or CTRL + Z to send irssi to the background
[05:57] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, try using the nvidia driver from nvidia.com maybe
[05:57] <silent> ........ I've been playing music using my mouse to control, assuming my laptop media buttons wouldn't work.... so I just tried them.... and they work... I almost shed a tear
[05:57] <buzz-cp> Does anyone know what file contains the user picture reference in gnome/ubuntu?
[05:57] <riotkittie> or you can run it in screen. which is overkill, unless you're in a TTY.
[05:57] <MasterShrek> greencoo1ie, ctrl+alt+f2
[05:57] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: I'm using Non Free nvidia from Ubuntu Respo
[05:57] <adante> greencoo1ie: check the http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi
[05:57] <greencoo1ie> adante lifesaver
[05:57] <greencoo1ie> MasterShrek: thanks
[05:57] <buzz-cp> i.e. at the ubuntu login, when there is a picture for a user---what file references this picture?
[05:57] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: I'd be appreacited if you can check out my xorg_log error
[05:58] <gabilan> does anyone knows what going on
[05:58] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, can you pastebin it for me?
[05:58] <gabilan> with my compiz-
[05:58] <greencoo1ie> !pastebin
[05:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:58] <gabilan> it a fuckin error
[05:58] <riotkittie> gabilan: #ubuntu-effects
[05:58] <ThePub> Could someone refresh my memory, please.  There's a commandline tool you can use from bash scripts for poping up gtk widgets, what's the name of it?  ^_^
[05:58] <Pseudoryx>  MasterShrek: I could not since I dont have firefox. Running on Text mode
[05:58] <greencoo1ie> anyone know how I can access web from terminal?
[05:58] <greencoo1ie> like websites?
[05:58] <scguy318> greencoo1ie: lynx
[05:58] <bullgard4> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomatedProblemReports: "Crashes of userspace applications should be detected automatically so the user gets an easy to use frontend for adding information to the problem report and is offered to send the report to our database." Are there other applications yet besides 'userspace applications'?
[05:58] <greencoo1ie> !lynx
[05:58] <ubotu> Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[05:59] <buzz-cp> Anyone know the filename that says what picture is used at the login screen?
[05:59] <MasterShrek> Pseudoryx, paste the output of: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"
[05:59] <greencoo1ie> sudo apt-get install lynx
[05:59] <scguy318> greencoo1ie: thats it
[05:59] <greencoo1ie> sry my bad
[05:59] <buzz-cp> Anyone know the filename that says what picture is used at the login screen?
[05:59] <MasterShrek> !repeat | buzz-cp
[05:59] <ubotu> buzz-cp: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:59] <ArtVandalae> buzz-cp: you can ocnfigure it in GNOME, but I'm assuming it would be in a gdm config file, or maybe even gconf
[06:00] <ArtVandalae> *configure
[06:00] <Byro1> ***nel
[06:00] <cupojava> hi all..
[06:00] <sapphy76> Hi all
[06:00] <buzz-cp> Thanks Art
[06:00] <nalioth> sapphy76: first off, is the program you are trying to compile available in the official Ubuntu software repos?
[06:00] <dylix> http://plutonic.mine.nu/pictures.aspx?albummode=Page&albumpath=%2falbums%2f2007%2f09_september%2fIMG_3343.JPG
[06:00] <buzz-cp> also, thanks MasterShrek
[06:00] <cupojava> did anyone try to upgrade from feisty to gutsy?
[06:00] <MasterShrek> i did cupojava, why?
[06:00] <g0dd3ss> hai everyone!!! I have ubuntu feisty with kde and I have this battery manager monitor thingy that's supposed to be in the tray, but it opens in it's own little window, how to fix??