[04:22] <DonL> patricia, any Windows box should recognize a .doc file. Maybe you have a problem connecting your computers together
[04:22] <balzac> plus i'm planning on quitting design and focusing on dev
[04:22] <farruinn> Anyone here have experience configuring ppp for an eMac?
[04:23] <patricia> DonL, I don't gues so, because every other machines in the LAN can share files with wich other.
[04:23] <DonL> balzac, Java has always annoyed me till I get it running and leave it. The best results I've had with Ubuntu and Java have been from the instructions on the Wiki or How to from Ubuntu
[04:24] <balzac> thanks
[04:24] <concept10> Anyone ever configured IrDA with ubuntu to sync palm pilots?
[04:24] <balzac> once i get my ubuntu system online, i can use apt-get for the java parts
[04:24] <balzac> i'm quitting php for ruby on rails
[04:25] <balzac> i figured it would be cool to run it on linux natively
[04:25] <h08817> direwolf, ok
[04:25] <h08817> direwolf, i got it installed
[04:25] <h08817> direwolf, it says driver present, hardware present
[04:25] <DonL> patricia, getting Unix like boxes and Windows boxes talking for me is a dark art. I've never had much luck unfortunately. From Ubuntu I can see the other windows machines and share files from them, but they seem to have a hard time seeing my Linux box.
[04:25] <h08817> direwolf, so now how do i get online with it?
[04:26] <h08817> i need help from any1
[04:26] <balzac> you know, there's little things that still need work in the user interface of linux
[04:26] <h08817> i just installed netgear wg111 usb how do i configure it to get online?
[04:26] <balzac> i wish i were a better programmer so i could help fix up gnome
[04:26] <Xenguy> patricia: would 'samba' help your boxen to talk to each other?
[04:26] <direwolf> do you have another ethernet connection on the machine or just the usb wireless?
[04:27] <h08817> just the usb
[04:27] <DonL> balzac, you don't like gnome?
[04:27] <h08817> i connect to my network i have here at home
[04:27] <direwolf> do you use wep or wpa?
[04:27] <balzac> DonL, i'm troubled by it
[04:27] <h08817> no i don't use either but i should
[04:27] <balzac> i like the configurability
[04:27] <h08817> i live in the country so i am not worried about it
[04:27] <balzac> but there's room for improvement
[04:27] <DonL> I find it elegant in it's simplicity and wonderful to look at.
[04:27] <h08817> but if u think i should have it then please help
[04:28] <balzac> the default gnome is a bit weird, imho
[04:28] <h08817> so...
[04:28] <concept10> balzac: whats wierd about it?
[04:28] <h08817> direwolf, so can i get online without all that security crap or will linux not allow it
[04:28] <balzac> i prefer to have a URI - browser style
[04:28] <direwolf> go to system > preferences > networking
[04:29] <direwolf> you can get on without it
[04:29] <balzac> i use that more
[04:29] <jrattner1> Are there limewire packages for ubuntu?
[04:29] <h08817> ok i am on 2 different computers now so i should brb
[04:29] <balzac> i like to copy the URI from one window and use it in another
[04:29] <patricia> Xenguy, Shall I install samba or it is already installed?? I gues it is alredy installed since I can see the other machines, am i right?
[04:29] <DonL> When I discovered Ubuntu, I really liked it, and since it shipped with Gnome, I thought I'd give it a chance. As a result, I spent some time learning it, and now think it's the best (for me at least)
[04:29] <h08817> direwolf, what should i do once in there?
[04:29] <PlanarPlatypus> jrattner1, http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[04:29] <wirk> Hello. What program can I use to rip CDs to mp3 ?
[04:29] <balzac> DonL, i think there's a tension between the newb users and power users needing different features
[04:29] <direwolf> do you use dhcp ? or static?
[04:29] <Burgundavia> PlanarPlatypus, please don't recommend the ubuntuguide
[04:30] <DonL> balzac, what do you mean?
[04:30] <balzac> like apple - they still ship computers with a one-button mouse, which I can't stand to use
[04:30] <Xenguy> patricia: I have no idea; it was just a question/suggestion.  You need to ascertain details AFAICT
[04:30] <Burgundavia> balzac, ironically spatial does well with power users but poorly with new users
[04:30] <balzac> but it's probably better for kids and old people
[04:30] <Burgundavia> balzac, gnome is working to correct this
[04:30] <johnnybezak> hey guys is there a gnome applet in hoary for monitoring/changing wireless connections
[04:30] <concept10> wirk: grip
[04:30] <Burgundavia> johnnybezak, no
[04:30] <balzac> Burgundavia, you mean the windows remembering their places? i still havent gotten used to it.
[04:30] <wirk> Thanks concept10
[04:30] <Burgundavia> balzac, yes
[04:31] <Burgundavia> johnnybezak, NetworkManager will be available in breezy
[04:31] <balzac> also, spread-sheet style is much preferable to icons
[04:31] <h08817> direwolf, sweet i am online
[04:31] <iron_citadel> Hi, y'all.
[04:31] <balzac> why would i ever want to see a bunch of icons in a directory?
[04:31] <h08817> direwolf, how in the future could i make it wep or wpa?
[04:31] <iron_citadel> Anyone know anything about evms?
[04:31] <direwolf> great job h08177
[04:31] <concept10> There is a gnome panel applet that works for changing network options, but its nothing like NetworkManager
[04:31] <DonL> balzac, these are all configurable
[04:31] <direwolf> wep is easy you would just enter the key in the config tool
[04:32] <Burgundavia> balzac, icons are a lot nicer than spreadsheet for new users
[04:32] <h08817> do i just make one up on my network computer that i am connecting to?
[04:32] <direwolf> for wpa you need wpa_supplicant which may be a bit harder to setup
[04:32] <h08817> o well i'll just stick to wep
[04:32] <Burgundavia> !ubuntuguide
[04:32] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[04:32] <h08817> lol
[04:32] <direwolf> you set the router to use wep then enter a phrase and generate a key
[04:32] <direwolf> this is done on the router/ap
[04:33] <h08817> o ok thanks for all ur help
[04:33] <h08817> well onto my linux system
[04:33] <direwolf> then you write the key down and enter it into the config tool on the machine with the wireless card
[04:33] <h08817> also one more thing on the ubuntu site it has a tutorial that should answer all my questions right
[04:33] <direwolf> not all but many
[04:34] <direwolf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:34] <h08817> what is the key i can press that will repeat what i type in a terminal window?
[04:34] <balzac> anyway, i'm griping about little things. It's great overall
[04:34] <h08817> i typed ndiswrapper like a million times
[04:34] <direwolf> up arrow
[04:34] <h08817> o ok any other interesting facts i should know as a noob?
[04:34] <LinuxJones> h08817, the up arrow key
[04:35] <h08817> thanks
[04:35] <Xenguy> h08817: or Ctrl-p ;-)
[04:35] <balzac> i'll get used to it.
[04:35] <h08817> well i'm gonna go get on with linux screw windows
[04:36] <DonL> balzac, You'll be enthusiastically brought in and contributing to others here I predict
[04:36] <LinuxJones> h08817, in terminal ctrl + r will let you search (in reverse) the commands you typed in
[04:36] <balzac> DonL, thank you.
[04:37] <balzac> DonL, maybe I'll work on my own file-browser sometime.
[04:37] <DonL> balzac, like me. I don't know a lot but I feel good when I can help someone
[04:37] <iron_citadel> Can anyone answer a question about evms for me?
[04:37] <Chaotic_Shield> I have a question regarding laptop compatibility
[04:37] <Burgundavia> Chaotic_Reality, what sort of question?
[04:37] <balzac> DonL, I found this great app called FreeMind
[04:37] <Chaotic_Reality> :o
[04:37] <Chaotic_Shield> erm.
[04:37] <Chaotic_Shield> O_O
[04:37] <balzac> that's why i wanted java on linux
[04:38] <DonL> balzac, I'll google it
[04:38] <balzac> you can use freemind as a file-browser
[04:38] <Concord_Dawn> here
[04:38] <n8l> are there any good video editing programs that work with ubuntu?
[04:38] <Concord_Dawn> I'll switch my nick to make it easier for you
[04:38] <jrattner1> How do i install JAVA?
[04:38] <balzac> it creates nice file-trees of your directory structure
[04:38] <Burgundavia> jrattner1, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:38] <juanej> sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[04:38] <balzac> but i don't think you can use it to modify your directory structure
[04:39] <balzac> its main purpose is mind-maps
[04:39] <Concord_Dawn> Burgundavia, I was wondering why Ubuntu has a cow whenever I close my laptop lid
[04:39] <Concord_Dawn> it switches to a prompt, but the prompt doesn't respond to anything
[04:39] <Concord_Dawn> only thing I can do is power off and then power on again.
[04:39] <balzac> i'm using it to organize my ideas, and linking to all my files from nodes in FreeMind
[04:39] <Xenguy> Concord_Dawn: http://linux-laptop.net/
[04:39] <Burgundavia> Concord_Dawn, laptop stuff is not completely shaken out yet. It is a big goal to improve it. File a bug about it
[04:39] <Concord_Dawn> :)
[04:39] <Concord_Dawn> thanks
[04:40] <balzac> that's the direction I want to go with how I relate to my filesystem
[04:40] <DonL> Concord_Dawn, count yourself lucky. I like cows
[04:40] <Concord_Dawn> lol
[04:40] <n8l> are there any good video editing programs that work with ubuntu?
[04:40] <balzac> n8l, have you checked out Dyne-Bolic?
[04:40] <johnnybezak> n8l: video editing is a bit of a weak spot with linux atm
[04:40] <Burgundavia> Concord_Dawn, ubutnu is very serious about laptop support. They are purchasing a bunch of laptops and distributing them to community members for testing
[04:40] <balzac> that features some nice linux multimedia apps
[04:41] <DonL> balzac, I'll take a look at it, but frankly, I have no problems with the file system management I'm using now
[04:41] <johnnybezak> n8l: have a look for kino/cinerella
[04:41] <iron_citadel> Would I break anything if I disabled evms?
[04:41] <Doomhammer> hi guys
[04:41] <johnnybezak> n8l: and there is a new gstreamer one out too can't rememeber the name
[04:41] <Doomhammer> i've got a questoin
[04:41] <Doomhammer> I have an ATI Radeon 9800 PRO card
[04:41] <direwolf> is there anywhere to take a look at whats going to be added in breezy?
[04:41] <Burgundavia> n8l, diva, but it is very new
[04:41] <Doomhammer> does fglrx work well enough to allow me to game on linux?
[04:41] <Burgundavia> Doomhammer, yes
[04:41] <lJlolel> can you make linux (like XFCE) work like the Mac OSX menu so that the icons get larger when the mouse scrolls over
[04:41] <Linux_Galore> n8l: lots of projects ->  http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=video+edit&section=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
[04:42] <Burgundavia> Doomhammer, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:42] <balzac> DonL, it's for mindmaps, primarily
[04:42] <n8l> thanks
[04:42] <DonL> balzac, okay. I'll check it out
[04:42] <Xenguy> n8l: apt-cache search edit |grep video  ?
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: there is a KDE task bar thats does that called Kxdocker
[04:42] <Doomhammer> Burgundavia: thanks, i'll have to check that out -- before I re-installed to try out Debian, i tried for weeks to get UT2004 to work... couldn't get it running
[04:42] <Burgundavia> Doomhammer, np
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: animated icons the whole deal like the docker in OSX
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: www.kde-apps.org
[04:43] <lJlolel> Linux_Galore,, i haven't actually used OSX, but that enlarging Icons seems cool
[04:43] <balzac> DonL, you know what can make a GUI more efficient? If you can pass from one side of the screen to the other
[04:43] <Doomhammer> hoary runs x.org by default, doesn't it?
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: yeah....gets old really fast though
[04:43] <balzac> sides and top & bottom
[04:44] <lJlolel> Linux_Galore, well it seems functional as well, no? Easy to read yet never in the way
[04:44] <DonL> balzac, I've seen that, but for me I don't need it
[04:44] <direwolf> to mee its unnecessary and yeah, gets old quick
[04:44] <DonL> Doomhammer, yes
[04:44] <balzac> i don't either, but it's nice
[04:44] <balzac> DonL, do you program?
[04:44] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: well the normal KDE kicker talk bar raises icons already when you do a mouse over and as of KDE 3.4 it opens a nice looking dialog box too... so does Gnome 2.12 now
[04:45] <Linux_Galore> talk = task
[04:45] <direwolf> elizabethtown pa ...wheres that
[04:45] <lJlolel> Linux_Galore, cool, 2.12 is coming out in september ?
[04:45] <DonL> direwolf, me too. I like dancing icons for oh about five minutes
[04:45] <DonL> balzac, Some people think I do. I don't
[04:45] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: well ive got it already from cvs....but yes stable is in sept
[04:45] <lJlolel> nice
[04:46] <lJlolel> Linux_Galore, will breezy ship with 2.12?
[04:46] <balzac> i'm not a deep programmer myself. my friend tells me ruby is where it's at.
[04:46] <balzac> that's what i'm going to focus on.
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: lots of fixes for problems many have being grumpy about
[04:46] <direwolf> haha yeah you see it once n say to yourself "oh thats nice", after that its just annoying
[04:46] <DonL> direwolf, That's it! lol
[04:46] <Burgundavia> balzac, ruby or python are quite nice
[04:46] <fr500> lJlolel, enlightment dr17 looks similar too
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> lJlolel: Ive noticed the new versions of Gnome and KDE both are targeting user feedback on the desktop big time
[04:47] <Doomhammer> okay, so I installed fglrx, updated my x.org config file, and loaded the module with modprobe... do I still need to reboot?
[04:47] <lJlolel> that's great, linux has seen a lot of improvement on the desktop from when i tried it last year
[04:47] <balzac> Burgundavia, i've heard good things about python as well, and it's ubiquitous among FOSS apps. It's the scripting language of Blender and Gimp.
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> yeah I tried kxdocker.......hacked it up added some theme stuff then used it for a week and then went back tot the default taskbar
[04:48] <direwolf> i love xfce, few things would be nice though - desktop icons (native) and nautilus style file manager
[04:48] <direwolf> xffm is poopy
[04:48] <direwolf> imo
[04:48] <DonL> lJlolel, leaps and bounds I would say
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> direwolf: XFCE is aimed at keeping it simple
[04:48] <Burgundavia> balzac, there are very good gtk and qt binding for it
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> direwolf: its not designed to be a fully functional desktop
[04:48] <fr500> what linux would you use in this scenario: i have a 486laptop with 8mb ram, 400mb hdd, wifi and ethernet, both pcmcia, i want to make an ap, i have several of such laptops, and i'm building a WAN with my friends using all that "garbage" equipement
[04:49] <Linux_Galore> fr500:  damn small linux
[04:49] <Cayne> newbie question - i am having trouble editing fstab to mount nfts...won't let me save it
[04:49] <fr500> Linux_Galore, i forgot: no cd-rom
[04:49] <Linux_Galore> dont laught thats the projects name
[04:49] <direwolf> i dont see how complicated it would make it to make a (imo) better file manager
[04:49] <Doomhammer> Burgundavia: I followed the directions and got it setup... do I need to reboot? it says I do, but AFAIK i can just restart the x server
[04:49] <direwolf> the desktop icons - eh i could do without
[04:50] <Linux_Galore> fr500: they have a floppy variant network install plug you can do a debian install via the web with some floppies
[04:50] <holycow> fr500, ubuntu (if it installs) should be fine, you need to use a lightweight desktop like xfce tho
[04:50] <Linux_Galore> plus*
[04:50] <holycow> oh wait 8 mb ram?
[04:50] <holycow> nm
[04:50] <holycow> you won't get it to install on that
[04:50] <fr500> i guessed so
[04:50] <holycow> damn small linux like someone else noted indeed :)
[04:50] <Burgundavia> Doomhammer, you need to restart X
[04:50] <DonL> fr500, I would have to agree with Linux_Galore . DSL would be the best for you I think
[04:50] <Linux_Galore> yeah damn small  is as about as basic as you can go with Linux
[04:50] <Burgundavia> Doomhammer, log out and hit ctrl-alt-bksp
[04:51] <fr500> i hope it works
[04:51] <LinuxJones> Cayne, you need root priviliges... sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:51] <fr500> so many wasted laptops here awaiting
[04:51] <Cayne> will try ta
[04:51] <balzac> fr500, good luck
[04:51] <Doomhammer> Burgundavia: alright, thanks... brb
[04:51] <jrattner1> How do you install java from sypatic (it does not list it as a package) although i have the proper repositories
[04:51] <DonL> fr500, that's very little hardware for anything nowadays
[04:52] <Linux_Galore> lol I often find laptop thrown out as garbage..... got a nice PII in the garbage one day .....got of the bus and there it was sitting there on top of an old broken chair
[04:52] <fr500> DonL, i only need iproute2 and wireless tools b
[04:52] <DonL> jrattner1, go to the ubuntu wiki pages
[04:52] <lJlolel> Linux_Galore, haha good deal
[04:52] <lJlolel> one man's trash..
[04:52] <jrattner1> DonL, i followed those instructions
[04:53] <Cayne> LinuxJones I get command not found
[04:53] <fr500> DonL, got like 10of them, all exact the same models, recovered the wi-fi cards from linksys wet11s
[04:53] <balzac> I searched for what is the best notebook for linux
[04:53] <Linux_Galore> yep ones mans trash becomes my Linux ASM chip burner
[04:53] <balzac> i'm wanting good hardware support
[04:53] <balzac> it seems IBM is where it's at
[04:53] <LinuxJones> Cayne, are you running gnome ?
[04:53] <Cayne> kde
[04:53] <DonL> fr500, cool. You can make this happen!
[04:53] <LinuxJones> Cayne, ok substitue gedit with kedit
[04:53] <Linux_Galore> Ive loaded a few thousand asic chips now with firmware with the free laptop
[04:53] <Burgundavia> Cayne, make that kate
[04:53] <Cayne> :)
[04:54] <fr500> i hope
[04:54] <balzac> fr500, I had 3 g3 wallstreets lying around
[04:54] <fr500> well, sending them here is as expensive as aps+wets i think
[04:54] <Linux_Galore> the thing eve had a built in 8x CDROm working fine......it had a broken windows 98 install on it
[04:54] <balzac> they gave me too much problems, just from being so old and unstable
[04:55] <LinuxJones> Cayne, I am half drunk and haven't used kde for over a year, sorry if I gave you some incorrect info :)
[04:55] <Linux_Galore> even*
[04:55] <Doomhammer> okay
[04:55] <Cayne> np...looking promising...cheers
[04:55] <balzac> i hope you have better luck. maybe these computers of yours are more robust
[04:55] <Doomhammer> so how do I verify that x.org is using the new driver and it's working properly?
[04:55] <DonL> Linux_Galore, Me too. Hope I don't lead too many people astray
[04:55] <fr500> hmmm
[04:55] <fr500> maybe not
[04:55] <fr500> but it's a fun project
[04:56] <balzac> it's nice to add value to old hardware with fresh software
[04:56] <redtech> oops
[04:56] <Linux_Galore> Ive noticed you can pick up an IBM Thinkpad laptop cheap ie T21 T22 or even a T42 cheap and they work perfectly with ubuntu.....buddy of mine got a T21 for $120
[04:56] <Doomhammer> Burgundavia: i'm getting ~3000 FPS in glxgears... is that right?
[04:56] <Chaotic_Reality> what's the command to search apt-get for a certain package?
[04:56] <balzac> Linux_Galore, i'm on the lookout for deals like that
[04:57] <Linux_Galore> balzac: ebay is full of them......corps are dumping them
[04:57] <balzac> Me and my nephew need to get notebooks. I've an old clunky gateway I can't stand.
[04:57] <Xenguy> Chaotic_Reality: dpkg -l pkgname*
[04:57] <Doomhammer> Chaotic_Reality: apt-cache search <insert package name here>
[04:57] <Chaotic_Reality> thanks
[04:57] <h08817> how do u get bitorrent to work
[04:58] <DonL> balzac, I was given an old P1 that couldn't even do Win 98, converted it to Linux. Slow but capable of browsing and e-mail. I can't give the thing away!
[04:58] <Linux_Galore> balzac: T22 and T42 are very thing laptops and both have more than enough grunt for ubuntu
[04:58] <h08817> it asks for a meta file
[04:58] <Linux_Galore> thin*
[04:58] <Xenguy> Chaotic_Reality: actually, mine tells you whether the package is installed
[04:58] <balzac> cool
[04:58] <Linux_Galore> balzac: and both support DVD's
[04:58] <Linux_Galore> balzac: get them for US$200 easy
[04:59] <Linux_Galore> balzac: buildt like sherman tanks...but are thin
[04:59] <Linux_Galore> built*
[04:59] <h08817> how do i use bitorrent it asks for a meta file
[04:59] <Chaotic_Reality> thanks Xenguy and Doomhammer.  Are either of you familiar with pidentd?
[04:59] <fr500> the net install part is a bit tricky, isn't there a chance of taking out the hd and installing the os in another pc? i have a laptop ide cable adaptor
[04:59] <Linux_Galore> h08817: you usually download the file....I use azureus its way easier
[04:59] <Xenguy> Chaotic_Reality: I've only heard of it
[05:00] <h08817> azureus?
[05:00] <Chaotic_Reality> i just installed it. not sure what to do with it after that point. heh
[05:00] <Doomhammer> Chaotic_Reality: never heard of it -- what does it do?
[05:00] <Chaotic_Reality> identd for irc so you don't have the little ~ at the front of your name
[05:00] <DonL> well I must go do family things. Thanks for the chat people
[05:00] <Chaotic_Reality> required on some irc networks
[05:00] <Doomhammer> Chaotic_Reality: ah
[05:01] <Linux_Galore> h08817: with azureus I just do a copy and paste the link from a bowser of the torren straight in, azureus looks after the rest
[05:01] <h08817> Linux_Galore, so i download that program?
[05:01] <fr500> Linux_Galore, the net install part is a bit tricky, isn't there a chance of taking out the hd and installing the os in another pc? i have a laptop ide cable adaptor
[05:02] <Linux_Galore> http://azureus.org/
[05:02] <Linux_Galore> fr500: yeah should work
[05:02] <balzac> azureus is nice
[05:02] <Linux_Galore> yeah best bt app ive used in ages
[05:02] <Doomhammer> okay guys
[05:03] <Doomhammer> UT2004 setup wants me to switch discs
[05:03] <Doomhammer> but, "device is in use"
[05:03] <Doomhammer> can't unmount the CD ?
[05:03] <h08817> Linux_Galore, is it free?
[05:04] <Linux_Galore> h08817: totally
[05:04] <Linux_Galore> h08817: even has a load of plugins you can download and use like firefox for more functionality
[05:05] <Linux_Galore> like firefox does"
[05:05] <balzac> i'm going to sell my gateway desktop replacement notebook and use the funds to get a thinkpad
[05:05] <watanabe88> hello
[05:05] <h08817> Linux_Galore, doesn't look free to me
[05:05] <watanabe88> i am new to ubuntu
[05:05] <jrattner1> how do i change my hostname
[05:05] <watanabe88> i am trying to install limewire
[05:05] <balzac> welcome watanabe88
[05:05] <h08817> Linux_Galore, it is asking me to pay money
[05:05] <Linux_Galore> h08817: better not tell the author Ive been using it for ages without paying a dime
[05:06] <Linux_Galore> h08817: its free
[05:06] <watanabe88> i followed directions in unofficial ubuntu starter guide
[05:06] <h08817> well how did u do it?
[05:06] <balzac> azureus is free
[05:06] <watanabe88> i have the icon in the applications
[05:06] <Linux_Galore> h08817: thats a donation
[05:06] <watanabe88> however it doesnot start
[05:06] <Linux_Galore> h08817: its optiona;
[05:06] <jrattner1> watanabe88, i just installed it a few minutes ago, you need to  install java too
[05:06] <Linux_Galore> optional
[05:06] <watanabe88> hello jrattner1
[05:06] <h08817> no its membership options
[05:06] <watanabe88> how do install the java
[05:07] <Burgundavia> watanabe88, wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:07] <watanabe88> i went to JAva website to download
[05:07] <jrattner1> watanabe88, use the link Burgundavia provided
[05:08] <Linux_Galore> h08817: there the free page -> http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
[05:08] <Linux_Galore> h08817: sorry i sent you to the members page
[05:08] <h08817> its ok
[05:09] <h08817> now i just have to figure out how to install it
[05:09] <h08817> i am a noob
[05:09] <balzac> i have to add the extra repositories to get java - does that mean java is not on the ubuntu CD?
[05:09] <seth_k> that's right
[05:09] <h08817> do i just do sudo apt-get and i don't kinow the rest
[05:09] <jrattner1> Anyone ever set up hotkeys via KHOTkeys
[05:09] <socomm> balzac: That's right. It's not included for legal reasons.
[05:09] <balzac> thanks
[05:09] <Burgundavia> balzac, yes
[05:09] <Burgundavia> balzac, Java is non-free
[05:09] <balzac> too bad sun microsystems is doodoo
[05:10] <Linux_Galore> h08817: download it .....unpack it and them create a link from your desktop to the azureus binary file in the unpackged root directory....you can do it all as a user that way your more secure
[05:10] <Linux_Galore> then*
[05:10] <balzac> scott mcnealy doesn't get it
[05:10] <socomm> No one gets it.
[05:10] <h08817> ok i am unpacking it now
[05:10] <socomm> I being the exception of course. :^)
[05:11] <socomm> By the way you can get azureus via apt-get.
[05:11] <Linux_Galore> jrattner1: its built into kcontrol now you dont need an extra apps
[05:11] <Linux_Galore> any*
[05:11] <LinuxJones> balzac, that's because MS told them not to get it :)
[05:11] <balzac> those who get it know it. those who don't get it don't know they don't get it.
[05:11] <Linux_Galore> h08817: make sure you have java installed
[05:11] <socomm> You need JRE.
[05:12] <socomm> JRE 1.5 is recommended by the Azureus developers, if I remember correctly.
[05:12] <balzac> yeah, MS is using imperial-style strategy to dely their inevitable demise
[05:13] <Linux_Galore> socomm: Im still using 1.4.2 and it works fine with the latest version.....Im way of 1.5 i had way too much breakage
[05:13] <jrattner1> Linux_Galore, its very complicated, to set up hotkeys in kde i cant figure out why
[05:13] <Linux_Galore> jrattner1: open kcontrol
[05:14] <Linux_Galore> jrattner1: or just type it in the terminal  kcontrol [ENTER]
[05:14] <jrattner1> Linux_Galore, i know where KHotkeys is i just cant get them to work
[05:14] <Linux_Galore> jrattner1: aaah
[05:14] <synnfest> This is the third time I've been in here for help....anybody else having any issues with Firefox?
[05:15] <skapple> what issues are you having?
[05:15] <balzac> here's a gripe - i had to compile a driver, and i needed additional tools installed to compile this driver. Does default ubuntu not install gcc?
[05:16] <h08817> Linux_Galore, what should i open the bin file with what program
[05:16] <h08817> i didn't extract it yet i just downloaded it
[05:16] <synnfest> It completely hangs up on some pages.  I've noticed that it happens most on ad-intense pages (forums work without a problem), but on anything with a lot of ads, it locks up before the page finishes loading
[05:16] <dedsvrd> im having wireless problems
[05:16] <Cayne> another newbie question...I cant find a sound utility to adjust sound on my laptop...is there one on synaptic that i missed?
[05:17] <balzac> goodnight
[05:17] <dedsvrd> i cant get my wireless card to work with ubuntu
[05:17] <balzac> btw, synnfest, take your firefox errors to #firefox
[05:17] <synnfest> what kind of card?
[05:18] <synnfest> balzac: thanks
[05:18] <dedsvrd> netanywhere
[05:18] <lJlolel> exit
[05:18] <lJlolel> exit
[05:18] <balzac> actually, synnfest, the mozilla foundation has their own irc server
[05:18] <watanabe88> still having difficulty finding the sun-j2re1.5
[05:18] <balzac> my buddy Asa is the release engineer
[05:18] <synnfest> I think someone else was having issues on ubuntuforums.org with that, have you checked there?
[05:18] <dedsvrd> not yet but i can
[05:18] <cafuego> Wow, 'beagle' actually works once you disable inotify.
[05:18] <balzac> he's probably familiar with your bug, but he's got to prioritize the bugs
[05:18] <watanabe88> using the synaptic package manager despite add the Hoary-extras repository
[05:19] <dedsvrd> noob question
[05:19] <nickrud> cafuego, inotify in breezy?
[05:19] <dedsvrd> extracting things
[05:19] <balzac> synnfest, i mean mozilla has their own irc network
[05:19] <balzac> you can find their main project channels there
[05:19] <cafuego> nickrud: No, inofity must be DISABLED or beagle crashes.
[05:20] <nickrud> cafuego, a kernel recompile then
[05:20] <h08817> Linux_Galore, i made a link but i can't open the file
[05:20] <cafuego> nickrud: it's happily indexing 4GB of mail now
[05:20] <cafuego> nickrud: yeah
[05:20] <skapple> the tao of the machine.
[05:20] <cafuego> putting the sysload on 3, but eh
[05:20] <skapple> is there any way to make ubuntu load into root instead of as user *
[05:21] <cafuego> skapple: Yes. It's a VERY STUPID idea, though.
[05:21] <h08817> how do i extract a bin file
[05:21] <cafuego> h08817: What bin file?
[05:22] <thenostradamus> i am having trouble with ssh.......when trying to connect to my computer, it won't recognize my password
[05:22] <thenostradamus> it gives me the errer:Permission denied, please try again
[05:22] <h08817> i downloaded azureus
[05:22] <nickrud> cafuego, just no inotify, what about dnotify?
[05:22] <cafuego> thenostradamus: Check the logs on your computer.
[05:22] <Doomhammer> thenostradamus: some SSH servers are configured by default not to allow root logins...?
[05:22] <cafuego> nickrud: I got no dnotify either
[05:23] <thenostradamus> not as root
[05:23] <cafuego> nickrud: Isn't inotify supposed to repalce dnotify anyway?
[05:23] <nickrud> yes
[05:23] <thenostradamus> cafuego, what logs?
[05:23] <Doomhammer> thenostradamus: if you're not trying to log in as root, check the logs
[05:23] <nickrud> why I asked :)
[05:23] <cafuego> thenostradamus: syslog
[05:23] <Doomhammer> thenostradamus: look in /var/log
[05:23] <thenostradamus> ok
[05:23] <skapple> cafuego: why ios it very dumb?
[05:23] <cafuego> skapple: Running all software as root leaves you explosed to security holes. Any buggy app can modify any file on the system (kinda like Windows).
[05:25] <skapple> cafuego: i do not necassarily want to login as root, i just want it to load into a console instead of Xwindows
[05:25] <dedsvrd> i need help with extracting
[05:25] <cafuego> skapple: There nothing you can't do by logging in as user and using sudo.
[05:26] <cafuego> skapple: By default or just once?
[05:26] <cafuego> skapple: You can always hit ctrl-alt-F1 for a console.
[05:26] <cafuego> skapple: If you enever want X to boot, disable gdm. (install rcconf, run rcconf)
[05:27] <jrattner1> how do i change my hostname
[05:27] <cafuego> jrattner1: $EDITOR /etc/hostname
[05:27] <jrattner1> thanks
[05:28] <cafuego> jrattner1: And 'sudo hostname <newhostname>'
[05:28] <cafuego> that will save you a reboot.
[05:28] <cafuego> You may also want to edit /etc/mailname
[05:29] <symex_linux> ae galera so o mais novo entregante o ubuntu
[05:30] <hubsi> could you plz talk english?
[05:30] <desrt> hubsi; likewise.
[05:30] <cafuego> desrt: Could you do the same then?
[05:30] <cafuego> arrgh
[05:30] <desrt> cafuego; eh?
[05:30] <cafuego> desrt: nevermind :-)
[05:30] <desrt> :)
[05:30] <cafuego> desrt: I cross-eyed and retarded today.
[05:30] <cafuego> I'm
[05:30] <desrt> stop trying :)
[05:31] <symex_linux> pow algum brasileiro
[05:31] <cafuego> !br
[05:31] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues.
[05:31] <symex_linux> #ubuntu-br
[05:31] <desrt> /join #ubuntu-br
[05:31] <thenostradamus> cafuego, what am i looking for.......i don't see ssh
[05:31] <symex_linux> tanks
[05:31] <desrt> no problem.  cheers.
[05:31] <cafuego> !br =~ s/portugues./portugues. Obrigado./
[05:31] <ubotu> cafuego: OK
[05:32] <cafuego> thenostradamus: Check /var/log/auth.log also
[05:32] <cafuego> thenostradamus: Anything there?
[05:32] <cafuego> thenostradamus: Were you trying to ssh in as root?
[05:32] <thenostradamus> no, as a regular user
[05:33] <ilba7r> on my notebook gnome default setting make all windows soo large. I want to reduce their size. Is there anyother way then reducing the font size and can i use reducing the font resolution to do that?
[05:33] <hubsi> 1 question.. if i extract something.. with .. tar... <file> -C <path>.. and this dict. already exists... does this command overwrite it.. or copy the files in this dict.
[05:35] <dbw> hubsi: it will overwrite them, AFAIK
[05:35] <hubsi> but there are other files in this dict.
[05:35] <hubsi> what can i do!?
[05:36] <dbw> hubsi: if the same file is not in the tarball, then you're fine, it won't delete anything it doesnt' need to
[05:36] <hubsi> no.. other files.. just same dict.
[05:36] <dbw> hubsi: or you can use the "-k" option, which will make it keep the existing files
[05:36] <mwright1> Where can I download breezy
[05:36] <dbw> hubsi: oh, then it's fine
[05:36] <hubsi> why do you want to install breezy
[05:37] <dbw> mwright1: google
[05:37] <jrattner1> is there a way to make grub use a graphical interface?
[05:37] <hubsi> it's not stable
[05:37] <spiral> is there any installation guide for qmail in ubuntu?
[05:37] <dbw> jrattner1: yes, but it's harder than you want to deal with
[05:37] <dbw> spiral: apt-get install qmail ??
[05:37] <jrattner1> dbw, its not worth it?
[05:37] <nickrud> hubsi, but, it's not in uppercase anymore, and it's almost at the end of the topic :)
[05:37] <dbw> jrattner1: well, think of it this way... how often do you see the boot screen?
[05:38] <Doomhammer> jrattner1: it's really not that hard... just remove the hide menu line in /boot/grub/grub.conf and download a bootsplash image... then add "bootsplash=something.xpm.gz" and you're good to go
[05:38] <dbw> jrattner1: google grub bootsplash
[05:38] <hubsi> Please don't use Breezy yet
[05:38] <symex_linux> who me of the one tip of as to install the SMBClient
[05:38] <jrattner1> thanx Doomhammer
[05:38] <dbw> symex_linux: ??? what is your native language
[05:39] <noisesmith> I am trying to install ubuntu and need to install swap for the install to continue, on a laptop with no installed os
[05:39] <noisesmith> I cannot find fdisk or cfdisk or anything though
[05:39] <symex_linux> face now q tou training my English
[05:40] <hubsi> is "tar -xzvf <file.tgz> -C <path/to/copy> right?
[05:40] <Doomhammer> noisesmith: ubuntu partitions the disk for you... i'm not sure what your probmem is?
[05:40] <dbw> symex_linux: es? br? cz? nl? de?
[05:40] <jrattner1> Doomhammer, does it matter what version of grub i have
[05:40] <noisesmith> doomhammer: run out of ram before swap installation
[05:40] <dbw> jrattner1: nope
[05:41] <hubsi> seems fr
[05:41] <Doomhammer> jrattner1: nope
[05:41] <dbw> noisesmith: use a livecd to partition it?
[05:41] <Doomhammer> noisesmith: ah... you need to download "The Ultimate Boot CD" -- it's got tons of tools, you should be able to create a linux swap partition
[05:41] <dbw> symex_linux: parlez vous francais?
[05:41] <noisesmith> thanks
[05:41] <cafuego> symex_linux: 'apt-get install smbfs'
[05:41] <dbw> cafuego: is that what he was asking?
[05:42] <cafuego> dbw: From what i can tell, yes.
[05:42] <cafuego> dbw: He wants smbclient.
[05:42] <dbw> cafuego: i thought he wanted to know who told him something about smbclient
[05:43] <dbw> HUMANITY TO OTHERS *THAT*!
[05:43] <cafuego> dbw: Scuse me?
[05:43] <BigWings> problema seu
[05:43] <JoshRA> Hello does anyone know why when starting and running tspc i get kernal panics?
[05:43] <jrattner1> Doomhammer, i dont have a grub.conf file in /boot/grub
[05:43] <hubsi> kernal *loL*
[05:43] <dbw> cafuego: pretty much everyone is.  but i didn't say non-native, i said non-speakers
[05:44] <spiral> has anyone installed qmail on ubuntu yet>
[05:44] <Burgundavia> dbw, please remember the ubuntu code of conduct
[05:44] <spiral> ?
[05:44] <fy> hello all
[05:44] <anders__> morning
[05:44] <hubsi> much to learn you have :P
[05:44] <cafuego> spiral: Most people would use postfix and not bother with unpackaged non-GPL software.
[05:44] <dbw> Burgundavia: it doesn't mention bats, dude :-\
[05:44] <hubsi> YODA ROX
[05:44] <h08817> i need a guide to installing bitorrent and what program i should use
[05:44] <JoshRA> Anyone?
[05:44] <fy> im french i have a pb with my ibook g4, the sound dont work correctly,  :s sry for my bad english
[05:45] <cafuego> spiral: Any reason you think you need qmail?
[05:45] <dbw> !fr
[05:45] <ubotu> [fr]  Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[05:45] <anders__> some intrest to hear a radio running whit ubuntu
[05:45] <fy> thx
[05:46] <jrattner1> Doomhammer, did you mean /boot/grub/menu.1st
[05:46] <Doomhammer> jrattner1: oh yea, sorry -- ubuntu uses a different file than other OS'es i've used
[05:46] <Doomhammer> jrattner1: oh yea, sorry -- ubuntu uses a different file than other OS'es i've used
[05:47] <anders__> chek this www.xboks.dk the site is english
[05:48] <spiral> cafuego, yeah, from what I know it is the most secure mail server
[05:48] <spiral> cafuego, and is easier to install than sendmail.
[05:49] <spiral> cafuego - well that is what I have heard, and I have never installed it
[05:50] <symex_linux> it has a person good of ubuntu to give msn to me hotmail
[05:51] <hubsi> whats the command for rename?
[05:51] <anders__> coffe time
[05:52] <JoshRA> Hello does anyone know why when starting and running tspc i get kernal panics?
[05:52] <Doomhammer> does anyone here play Unreal Tournament 2004 ?
[05:54] <mwright1> I want to install breezy cause 5.04 is really nice, but we have FC4 boxes, and breezy compares becuase it has oo2.0
[05:54] <linfreak> i just installed the base system on my other pc and when i run sudo apt-get install fluxbox it can't find the package
[05:54] <linfreak> andyone know why this might be happening?
[05:54] <anders__> aa no idear
[05:54] <Doomhammer> linfreak: you need to enable the Ubuntu universal repositories
[05:55] <linfreak> how do i do that in the terminal?
[05:55] <Doomhammer> uh
[05:55] <direwolf> what was that about
[05:55] <Doomhammer> linfreak: you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:55] <linfreak> is there a wiki on that?
[05:55] <Doomhammer> linfreak: yea, but i'm too lazy to find the link :P
[05:56] <linfreak> i'll take a look
[05:56] <linfreak> thanks
[05:56] <linfreak> but i can do that without having x-window system or any GUi right?
[05:56] <vader_> Doomhammer, so am I lol
[05:56] <vader_> it is almost bedtime
[05:57] <ed1t> linfreak lol yea if u use lynx or wget and go thru html files
[05:57] <ed1t> heh
[05:57] <Doomhammer> OMFG !!!!
[05:57] <ed1t> i dunno how u gonna do that
[05:57] <Doomhammer> Unreal Tournament 2004 worked on the first try!
[05:57] <Doomhammer> holy crap!
[05:57] <Doomhammer> i didn't even have to figure out how to get it to work!
[05:57] <Doomhammer> w00t!!!
[05:57] <linfreak> l33t
[05:57] <linfreak> :p
[05:57] <Doomhammer> :P
[05:57] <linfreak> i really wish i hadn't done this now
[05:58] <Doomhammer> linfreak: what? installing ubuntu?
[05:58] <linfreak> that wiki said nothing about enabling repositories
[05:58] <linfreak> the base system, yeah
[05:58] <ed1t> linfreak wat u tryin to do?
[05:58] <Doomhammer> linfreak: oh alright... give me a minute, i'll throw my sources.list up on my webserver (ubuntu)
[05:58] <linfreak> install afluxbox
[05:58] <Doomhammer> ed1t: he's trying to get fluxbox
[05:58] <Doomhammer> ah! here ya go linfreak
[05:58] <Doomhammer> http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t316051.html
[05:59] <Doomhammer> about 2/3 down the page, you'll see a post by JonCooperUK
[05:59] <Doomhammer> he tells you what to add to your sources.list
[05:59] <ed1t> linfreak sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[05:59] <h08817> any help with bitorrent
[05:59] <Doomhammer> ed1t: he needs to enable the universal repositories
[05:59] <linfreak> right, how do i do that without a GUI?
[06:00] <Doomhammer> linfreak: what editor do you like? VI? Nano?
[06:00] <Doomhammer> linfreak: if you don't know, do this: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:00] <direwolf> nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:00] <vader_> gedit here lol
[06:00] <Doomhammer> CTRL+X is to save
[06:00] <linfreak> gedit, but i don't have that....
[06:00] <linfreak> or do i?
[06:00] <linfreak> :P
[06:00] <ed1t> linfreak use nano then
[06:00] <deprave> i'm bored, what can i install that's fun?
[06:00] <linfreak> okay
[06:01] <ed1t> deprave gnome!
[06:01] <linfreak> the sasserworm on windows and then try to get rid of it
[06:01] <anders__> who can i installe my scanner??
[06:01] <ed1t> if u using KDE
[06:01] <djcheezecake> wow..alotta ppl in this room..i remember when only 10 used to show up. =P
[06:01] <linfreak> brb, gonna try nano
[06:01] <h08817> how can i install bitorrent it is asking for a metafile
[06:02] <direwolf> azureus is better imo
[06:02] <vader_> h08817, no idea
[06:02] <anders__> na emule
[06:02] <h08817> well direwolf how do i install it
[06:03] <magneto> h08817 - sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[06:03] <magneto> btlaunchmanycurses > azureus
[06:03] <linfreak> netfloods sucks here
[06:04] <linfreak> netsplit i mean
[06:04] <deltab> h08817: sounds like you already have it installed
[06:04] <yaaar> word
[06:05] <magneto> !word up
[06:05] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, magneto
[06:05] <Doomhammer> guys, for some reason there's no sound in UT2004
[06:05] <h08817> magneto, how does that work
[06:05] <Doomhammer> i've had problems with XMMS as well...
[06:05] <h08817> ?
[06:05] <h08817> deltab, i do
[06:05] <djcheezecake> doomhammer: maybe you need to kill esd?
[06:05] <h08817> deltab, i do but i don't know how to fix it
[06:06] <anders__> cant you serch after bit torrnet?
[06:07] <anders__> in terminal
[06:07] <magneto> h08817: its part of bittorrent  - you just put your torrents in a directory and go to where you want em downloaded then run btlaunchmanycurses /some/dir/ --max_uploads 8   or osmething like that
[06:07] <shadeofgrey> hey guys
[06:07] <shadeofgrey> i need help
[06:08] <yaaar> anybody know how i can get xscreensaver to use the screen as the image for screensavers to manipulate? i've tried the 'grab frames' checkbox, and also editing ~/.xscreensaver for it...
[06:08] <magneto> h08817 - it uses wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy less memory than azureus
[06:08] <shadeofgrey> when i first started using ubuntu i was on 2.5 something and now that things have moved to 2.6 -- someth9ing is wrong with the "accepted" procedure for installing my nvidia drivers
[06:08] <h08817> magneto, what does?
[06:08] <magneto> horr17: bittorrent does
[06:09] <jbloudg20> hey does anyone know how to specify to alsa which soundcard to use? I have my onboard, and a chaintec av710, and alsa is defaulting to onboard, or so I believe
[06:09] <magneto> h08817: azureus is a memory hog
[06:09] <h08817> magneto, well how can i fix my problem of wanting a metafile can i just download a different program or can i fix mine?
[06:09] <anders__> sorry back again
[06:09] <h08817> i have the program that came with ubuntu
[06:09] <djcheezecake> YES azureus is major memory hog..
[06:09] <shadeofgrey> if i use synaptic and follow the directions for installing the nvidia stuff, the aRchives copy okay but ....  the command to enable the drivers makes some mysterious changes to my xorg.conf file and makes the system totally unusable in anything butr text mode...  X11 wont even start after all the accepted updates
[06:09] <djcheezecake> ho8817: use either bittornado or gnome's bittorrent client..
[06:09] <magneto> h08817: what is your exact error and when does it occur?
[06:10] <spiral> has anyone installed qmail on ubuntu yet?  And know of any good walkthroughs to do this?
[06:10] <shadeofgrey> anybody have any ideda how to make the nvidia stuff work properly under 2.6?
[06:10] <h08817> magneto, i am running gnome BiTorrent and  it says open a location for bittorrent meta file
[06:11] <jbloudg20> any chaintec av710 users?
[06:11] <Alinux> someone alive
[06:11] <Alinux> who could help me?
[06:11] <anders__> yes
[06:11] <magneto> its asking for  your torrent files
[06:11] <Alinux> I need to create a script
[06:11] <Alinux> boot script
[06:12] <Alinux> very simple
[06:12] <Doomhammer> why is the sound on my system very low quality?
[06:12] <magneto> the files you download that tell the program what server to connect to and all that good stuff
[06:12] <Doomhammer> i changed it to high in the sound config, but it doesn't seem to have helped...
[06:12] <Alinux> someone could help me?
[06:12] <djcheezecake> ho8817: you need to specify the torrent file you're trying to access..
[06:12] <h08817> where is it located?
[06:12] <h08817> i just want to run bittorrent and download stuff why is it so complicated
[06:12] <djcheezecake> ho8817: wherever you decided to download you're torrent file....
[06:13] <h08817> i never downloaded one
[06:13] <Doomhammer> why is my sound very low-quality, even if I changed it to high in the KDE Control Center ?
[06:13] <djcheezecake> ho8817: you goto a website...download a torrent file of your choice...and then use that bittorrent client to download the actual file..
[06:14] <h08817> what torrent file do i choose and where do i get them?
[06:14] <magneto> h08817: in order to download stuff you should go to a site and find torrent files - then open those files with bittorrent and you will download them
[06:14] <magneto> try isohunt.com piratebay.com etc
[06:14] <Doomhammer> why is my sound very low-quality, even if I changed it to high in the KDE Control Center ?
[06:14] <magneto> you can download ubuntu like that too :)
[06:14] <spiral> has anyone installed qmail on ubuntu yet?  And know of any good walkthroughs to do this?
[06:15] <vader_> spiral, I only use evilution
[06:15] <vader_> evolution^^
[06:15] <Doomhammer> i don't mean to repeat myself... but...
[06:15] <Doomhammer> i don't mean to repeat myself... but...
[06:15] <Doomhammer> why is my sound very low-quality, even if I changed it to high in the KDE Control Center ?
[06:16] <Doomhammer> lol
[06:16] <Doomhammer> that's not what I wanted to repeat :P
[06:17] <shadeofgrey> how do i update my ubuntu installation to the latest stable release using apt-get?
[06:17] <Doomhammer> shadeofgrey: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:17] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, how many menus do you have?
[06:17] <vader_> I am going to try and install thunderbird mail tomorrow here, it is like almost 12:30 here am
[06:17] <Doomhammer> why is my sound very low-quality, even if I changed it to high in the KDE Control Center ?
[06:18] <shadeofgrey> burg:  what do you mean how many menuss?
[06:18] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, if you have 3, you already have the latest stable
[06:18] <vader_> Doohammer, I only have gnome right now, I am of no help lol
[06:18] <shadeofgrey> burg:  version 3 of what?  the nvidia stuff?
[06:18] <shadeofgrey> or ubuntu in general?
[06:19] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, if you have 3 menus, you already have the latest stable
[06:19] <DekaPink> Okay, someone told me before, but now I can't remember... How do I stop Ubuntu from trying to sync with the clock server at startup, since it doesn't work? ^^ Unload the module or what have you.
[06:19] <fy> !fr
[06:19] <ubotu> somebody said fr was Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[06:19] <Doomhammer> vader_ bah... on Gnome the sound was very quiet, even when I turned it all the way up... had to turn up my stereo, and thus it BLASTED my ears when I rebooted into winBlows
[06:19] <djcheezecake> DekaPink: i just hit Ctrl + c to cancel ...
[06:20] <shadeofgrey> is 2.6.10-5-386 the latest stable?
[06:20] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, yes
[06:20] <vader_> Doohammer, what are you using desktop or laptop?
[06:20] <shadeofgrey> okay thanks
[06:20] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, the next stable is due for release in Oct 2005
[06:20] <Doomhammer> vader_: i'm using a desktop, with the onboard nForce 2 auto
[06:20] <Doomhammer> audio*
[06:20] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, it will contain the 2.6.12 kernel and 2.12 gnome
[06:21] <vader_> hmmmmmm, I haven;t heard of probs, will look into it on Monday
[06:21] <vader_> I do it at work and it is considered research lol
[06:21] <Doomhammer> so it seems i can run ut2004 with no performance loss using fglrx... does that mean doom3 will work ?! :D
[06:22] <vader_> you did say nforce2 right Doohammer?
[06:23] <Doomhammer> vader_: yes, nForce 2
[06:23] <vader_> ok, I have enailed myself a remineder
[06:23] <DekaPink> djcheezecake: That... Doesn't make sense in regards to my question... I want to stop it from even trying to do it? :3
[06:23] <Doomhammer> vader_: the computer in the other room is also running an nForce 2 motherboard, but it's sound quality is fine under ubuntu (both running KDE)
[06:23] <n8l> alright I have a GeForce4 MX 4000. When I install it and boot up my computer it starts up godd n all but then its just blank after that. Help PLZ!
[06:23] <djcheezecake> DekaPink: gotcha...
[06:24] <djcheezecake> DekaPink: dont have an answer for you for that...i just do what i told you if sumthins actin up at boot
[06:24] <DekaPink> djcheezecake: Cool, well... Thanks anyway. :)
[06:24] <vader_> Doohammer, I would compare the 2 files
[06:25] <vader_> side by each
[06:25] <anders__> how come that i can't get my cano scan too workt?
[06:26] <Doomhammer> vader: what files ? :S
[06:26] <vader_> the sound files, are you using Alsa?
[06:26] <vader_> or esound or what??
[06:27] <OddAbe19><PHONE_NUMBER>0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
[06:27] <OddAbe19> sorry
[06:27] <OddAbe19> damn cat hit the 0 and enter
[06:27] <OddAbe19> when i moved him
[06:28] <vader_> lol
[06:29] <vader_> Doohammer, look at this and I will return tomorrow http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21541.html
[06:29] <anders__> hello Loke Dk im from there too
[06:32] <anders__> thos some no if there is a ubuntu danish chat rum some where ?
[06:35] <Doomhammer> vader_: i've tried all the sound libs that are installed, OSS, ALSA, eSound, etc
[06:39] <mkerby> I've got to get a bootable cd from an iso. What is a good proggie to do this in linux?
[06:39] <black13> i am interested in anyone who has experience with how xinit works
[06:40] <Burgundavia> mkerby, right click on it, and see if there is a write to disk option
[06:43] <mkerby> Burgundavia, will this give me a bootable image?
[06:43] <black13> xinit works but startx fails
[06:43] <shadeofgrey> why does "apt-get install libdvdcss2 give me a no installatiojn candidate error?
[06:43] <Burgundavia> mkerby, yes
[06:43] <cafuego> !info libdvdcss2
[06:44] <cafuego> Coz it not in ubuntu proper.
[06:44] <cafuego> !find libdvdcss2
[06:44] <mkerby> Burgundavia, thanks a bunch! I'll try it.
[06:44] <shadeofgrey> !info libdvdcss2
[06:44] <shadeofgrey> whats the package name to install dvd playback cap[ability for totem then?  and mp3 and stuff?
[06:45] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, libdvdcss2 and it is in hoary-extras
[06:45] <cafuego> !restrictedformats
[06:45] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[06:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libdvdcss2' returned no results.
[06:45] <shadeofgrey> what are the lines to add hoary-extras to my sources.list file?
[06:45] <cafuego> !find libdvdcss2 extras
[06:45] <Burgundavia> shadeofgrey, wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'libdvdcss2 extras' returned no results.
[06:49] <pax> anyone care to paste their original (vosts stripped) /etc/apache2/sites-available/default to http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/ please
[06:51] <Ropy> hey ya'll
[06:52] <pax> nobody running apache2?
[06:52] <pax> hi Ropy
[06:53] <Ropy> i just installed ubuntu and seeking some help
[06:53] <Burgundavia> pax, likely, but this is quiet period
[06:53] <pax> just ask Ropy
[06:53] <Burgundavia> Ropy, what do you need help with?
[06:54] <Ropy> I dual booted with xp, my other HDs are NTFS
[06:54] <Ropy> how can I see what's on them?
[06:54] <Burgundavia> !ntfs
[06:54] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[06:54] <Burgundavia> that last link will mount them for you
[06:55] <cafuego> pax: I run apachge2. What's the problem?
[06:55] <cafuego> pax: Hmm, I don't think I astill have the original.
[06:55] <cafuego> ahaa! default.dpkg-dist :-)
[06:55] <pax> cafuego: np mate, cheers
[06:56] <Ropy> how, went there and just saw some code....
[06:56] <pax> cafuego: strip your info and post it somewhere if you dont mind
[06:56] <cafuego> pax: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1013  (Note, it'sthe debian one)
[06:57] <pax> thanks cafuego
[06:57] <seife> yo
[06:57] <seife> i downloaded the live cd
[06:57] <seife> burnt it
[06:57] <seife> ran it
[06:57] <seife> but its not opening a weird file
[06:57] <Ropy> also, how do I install files?
[06:57] <Ropy> or convert rpms to dpkg?
[06:57] <seife> Dunno, i cant get the live cd workin
[06:57] <cafuego> Ropy: What package specifically?
[06:57] <pax> cafuego: wep, that's the one. you rock
[06:58] <Ropy> want to install and app but it's in rpm
[06:58] <Ropy> and based on my undersanding ubuntu only supports dpkg
[06:59] <cafuego> Ropy: WHICH app
[06:59] <cafuego> Ropy: Changes are, it's available as .deb as well.
[06:59] <Ropy> xchat and wine
[07:00] <cafuego> Ropy: sudo apt-get install xchat wine
[07:00] <cafuego> Ropy: Make sure youy have the universe and multiverse repositories.
[07:01] <Ropy> u lost me at the last part... I'm fairly new to nix
[07:01] <cafuego> !repos
[07:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:01] <cafuego> Ropy: Read that page; then start synaptic and install xchat and wine.
[07:02] <black13> what is the purpose of the /etc/X11/Xsession file
[07:02] <Ropy> ok, I'll do that
[07:02] <Ropy> thanks for the help
[07:03] <seife> its anyone helping me?
[07:04] <logical_mark> seife, just ask a question, somone will help you
[07:04] <djcheezecake> i think he did...he mentioned something about live CD...
[07:05] <djcheezecake> he can't get the live CD working..thats all i got from the log
[07:05] <Madpilot> hi seife
[07:05] <djcheezecake> seife, that is..
[07:06] <logical_mark> either you didnt burn it as an image or you dont have the correct boot order on your comp
[07:06] <logical_mark> is it messing up or not booting off the cd at all?
[07:06] <Tarcastil> hello, can anyone help me out with some trouble of getting dma working on a cdrom drive?
[07:06] <cafuego> Tarcastil: hdparm -c1 -d1 -u1 /dev/hdc
[07:06] <spiral> has anyone installed qmail on ubuntu yet?  And know of any good walkthroughs to do this?
[07:06] <cafuego> Tarcastil: if that won't work, it's not going to.
[07:07] <cafuego> spiral: You still haven't explained why you think you need qmail when postfix works fine.
[07:07] <Tarcastil> cafuego: nope, it's a /dev/scd0
[07:07] <Tarcastil> cafuego: and it doesn't work for some reason
[07:07] <PM-aSeepin> What's up, people
[07:07] <cafuego> Tarcastil: SCSI doesn't DO dma.
[07:08] <Tarcastil> cafuego: does that mean dvds will all be choppy?
[07:08] <cafuego> Tarcastil: No
[07:08] <Tarcastil> cafuego: good :)
[07:08] <guardianx3> can someone help me log  see files that is on the windows network?
[07:08] <Tarcastil> cafuego: thanks
[07:08] <cafuego> Tarcastil: it will run at whatever speed it is; dma is an IDE thing that is normally on anyway, but soemtimes off if you have a badly supported IDE chip.
[07:09] <guardianx3> or point me to the information i had trouble looking for it on google
[07:10] <spiral> cafuego, I did write that i have heard that qmail is more secure than postfix
[07:10] <Chickenman_> can an1 see me?
[07:10] <cafuego> spiral: That's complete nonsense.
[07:10] <cafuego> Chickenman_: we all can
[07:11] <guardianx3> how do u add a fav room into xchat? i would like to add this channel in xchat
[07:11] <Chickenman_> djcheezecake, my internet went down i am h08817
[07:11] <jasmuz> guardianx3: if you are using Xchat under Ubuntu its set as default
[07:12] <cafuego> spiral: just go with postfix. it fast, secure and _easy_ to set up.
[07:12] <guardianx3> how do i get to the default?
[07:12] <guardianx3> is there a favorite option like mirc?
[07:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there anything like limewire that can be safely/effectively used in ubuntu?
[07:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm concerned that since it's not a deb package, limewire might muck up my system
[07:13] <jasmuz> BROKEN_LADDER: there is limewire for GNU/LINUX
[07:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> yup there is
[07:13] <cafuego> Does the Linux limewire also contain spyware?
[07:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> the issue is just whether it's a good idea to install it.
[07:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> lol
[07:13] <guardianx3> how do i get files on my home pc .. the pc is in a windows network
[07:13] <amichai> hey guys. i feel my ubuntu has wlown down. anyway i can speed it up. hd is not fuller than has been. any tips?
[07:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> guardianx3 you could set up a samba share
[07:14] <jasmuz> BROKEN_LADDER: aMULE, gtk-gnutella, Apollon
[07:14] <cafuego> guardianx3: Install and configure samba.
[07:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> jasmuz hey thanks!
[07:14] <guardianx3> broken- will u point me to how to set up samba share in unbuntu??
[07:14] <jasmuz> amichai: check if you have DMA enabled
[07:14] <guardianx3> samba is not already installed in unbunto?
[07:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> it should be installed yup.
[07:15] <guardianx3> how do i get it to work?
[07:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> guardianx3 you should be able to go into nautilus and type in a share address, or search for local shares
[07:15] <guardianx3> i'm sorry i'm newb to linux
[07:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> are you wanting to search from the linux box for a share on the windows machine?
[07:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> or share from your linux box?
[07:15] <pax> guardianx3: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=129315&postcount=1
[07:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> setting it up isn't too complicated if you follow a howto, but i think there's probably some gui app that can make it easy for you.
[07:16] <amichai> jasmuz: hdparm?
[07:16] <jasmuz> amichai: yea
[07:16] <guardianx3> broken- i have trouble finding the gui tut  on goggle i dont know what is the best search keyword to use
[07:16] <pax> wep, use SWAT it's crap but can get you going
[07:16] <pax> !swat
[07:16] <ubotu> hmm... swat is Samba Web Administration Tool | sudo apt-get install swat | http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/swat.8.html
[07:17] <amichai> jasmuz: how do i find out if my hd is hda or hdb?
[07:17] <Imsdle> i stuffed up when setting up firebirdcs.. now i want to reinstall it but i dn't want to have redownload it
[07:17] <Imsdle> how do you remove somehting and reinstall it without having to apt-get install and dowload the files again?
[07:18] <Chaotic_Reality> anyone had success setting up the ati control and getting their external monitor to work?
[07:19] <guardianx3> the window pc with files is ip <IP_ADDRESS> how do i get the files???the workgroup name  is = goku
[07:20] <jasmuz> amichai: probably you installed into hda
[07:20] <deltab> Imsdle: you should be able to find the package in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[07:20] <Imsdle> ok
[07:21] <deltab> Imsdle: dpkg -r then dpkg -i, I think
[07:21] <Imsdle> thanks
[07:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> does bittorrent have the potential to be used like limewire?  where you don't have to create some seed file, post it on some site, etc?
[07:22] <h08817> djcheezecake, back
[07:23] <Imsdle> how do u share a dailup internet connection in ubuntu
[07:23] <jasmuz> BROKEN_LADDER: bittorent is made for swapping BIG files
[07:24] <jasmuz> Imsdle: what are you trying to share?
[07:24] <jasmuz> Imsdle: internet via what do you want to share it
[07:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> jasmuz why would that make it bad for sharing small files?
[07:25] <jasmuz> BROKEN_LADDER: i havent said its bad for small files, but it rocks on delivering a movie if you have a good speed
[07:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> right, but it sucks to use it to just share files
[07:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> don't you have to do all this complicated stuff, like create a seed file, post it to a web site, etc?
[07:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> although i heard there is a trackerless version coming
[07:27] <crimsun> newer azureus versions automate much of that.
[07:28] <Imsdle> i want to be able to access the net from my network
[07:29] <guardianx3>  i dont understand this part of the tutorial... the code is (sudo smbpasswd -a `whoami`)     the acc on my unbun is (movie)  so i should replease the  'whoami' into  'movie'
[07:29] <deltab> Imsdle: I don't know of a particularly convenient way to do that, but it's not hard to set up
[07:29] <guardianx3> replace
[07:30] <black13> what is the purpose of the Xsession script
[07:30] <johnnybezak> hey guys i just plugged a web cam in, anyone know how i can tell if it's recognised like a lsusb or something
[07:30] <Imsdle> oh ok..
[07:30] <jasmuz> johnnybezak: unplug it
[07:30] <deltab> guardianx3: the grave accents around  `whoami`  tells the shell to execute the command  whoami  then replace the command by its output
[07:31] <jasmuz> johnnybezak: open a terminal, type tail -f /var/log/messages , and plug it in now
[07:31] <deltab> guardianx3: so if your username is guardianx the command will become  sudo smbpasswd -a guardianx
[07:32] <guardianx3> deltab - thank you
[07:32] <cody_ubuntu> I have a problem, I need to use 32bit gcc on 64bit ubuntu
[07:32] <cody_ubuntu> to compile my OS
[07:33] <cody_ubuntu> using the 64bit gcc, my inline asm becomes worthless, and I don't feel like rewriting libc
[07:33] <crimsun> cody_ubuntu: so build a 32-bit chroot and compile it there, then copy it over.
[07:34] <cody_ubuntu> which would be done how?
[07:34] <cody_ubuntu> I've only been using linux for about 9 months
[07:34] <crimsun> search the wiki for debootstrap.
[07:34] <cody_ubuntu> k
[07:35] <crimsun> there's also good documentation on the Debian web site in the developers' guide
[07:36] <guardianx3> delta do i type it in the shell promt?
[07:37] <deltab> type what?
[07:37] <spiral> hi
[07:38] <spiral> how do I configure postfix to make it send mail from a particular username?  I.e<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:38] <cody_ubuntu> crimsun, so what exactly does chroot do?
[07:38] <crimsun> cody_ubuntu: see chroot(8)
[07:39] <cody_ubuntu> nah, I'll just man chroot
[07:39] <crimsun> that's what chroot(8) is.
[07:39] <deltab> guardianx3: did you want to join a channel automatically in x-chat?
[07:40] <deltab> spiral: send what mail?
[07:40] <persia> Could someone please remind me where to report Universe bugs?
[07:40] <crimsun> persia: malone.
[07:40] <persia> crimsun: thanks
[07:40] <crimsun> persia: (launchpad.net/malone)
[07:43] <guardianx3> how do i install vlc into ubuntu??
[07:43] <Di42lo> i tried this too
[07:43] <Di42lo> doesnt work :|
[07:43] <Di42lo> i gets kind of error
[07:43] <jasmuz> guardianx3: sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:44] <spiral> crimsun, new to postfix - apache is the user who will be sending the mail
[07:44] <spiral> crimsun, or I think the user is www-data
[07:45] <guardianx3> jasmus when i type in the command u told me i get this error msg = E: Couldn't find package vlc
[07:45] <crimsun> spiral: you'll need to read the postfix docs. I'm not a MTA guru.
[07:45] <crimsun> an MTA, rather.
[07:46] <jasmuz> guardianx3: vlc - multimedia player for all audio and video formats
[07:47] <jasmuz> guardianx3: do you have your Universe enabled?
[07:47] <jason_> guardianx3, you need to enable the universe repository
[07:47] <spiral> ok
[07:47] <jason_> !tel guardianx3 about repositories
[07:47] <ubotu> jason_: I give up, what is it?
[07:47] <jason_> !tell guardianx3 about repositories
[07:50] <bjweeks> hey!
[07:51] <jasmuz> !ubotu repositories
[07:51] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:52] <starfishy> anyone know what happened to xbase-clients on breezy?
[07:52] <starfishy> it should contain xev but doesn't
[07:55] <Ropy> does anyone know how to handle a tgz.gz file?
[07:55] <Ropy> i.e. how to install it etc...
[07:55] <joolz> does anyone know a gtkatalog substitute for hoary? preferrably one that imports gtkatalog db's
[07:56] <joolz> ans will gtkatalog be back in breezy?
[07:56] <starfishy> tgz.gz?
[07:56] <joolz> and
[07:56] <starfishy> id try to gunzip it and then tar xzf
[07:56] <starfishy> but i suspect its just a misnomer for a .tar.gz or .tgz file
[07:56] <starfishy> gzipping a gzipped archive is kinda pointless
[07:57] <Ropy> why is that?>
[07:58] <starfishy> because the gain in compression is just about zero by compressing a compressed file
[07:58] <cafuego> the added meta info actually makes it larger :-)
[07:59] <Ropy> k... well I just want to install what's contained within the file
[07:59] <cafuego> Ropy: You're not adding home-compiled stuff to ubuntu, are you?
[07:59] <Ropy> no no
[08:00] <Ropy> dono how to compile just yet
[08:00] <Ropy> why u ask?
[08:00] <cafuego> Ropy: It's been a common theme this weekend.
[08:00] <spiral> how do I send mail from the apache user<EMAIL_ADDRESS>using a different username<EMAIL_ADDRESS>using postfix?
[08:00] <guardianx3> how do i install vlc into my new ubuntu
[08:00] <cafuego> Ropy: You unpack the tarball using 'tar xfz foo.tar.gz'
[08:01] <jasmuz> !ubotu repositories
[08:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:01] <guardianx3> when i type sudo apt-get install vlc .. i get this error msg ( E: Couldn't find package vlc
[08:01] <guardianx3>  )
[08:01] <Madpilot> guardianx3: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:01] <guardianx3> i read it but i dont get it
[08:01] <guardianx3> what do i do?
[08:02] <djcheezecake> wow...theres alot of repository issues tonite...
[08:02] <Madpilot> guardianx3: two of Ubuntu's repositories need to be enabled - Universe & Multiverse
[08:02] <Syco54645> i love url filter for ipcop
[08:02] <Syco54645> it rocks so much
[08:02] <Syco54645> i just updated the black list
[08:02] <Madpilot> guardianx3: the repos are where apt-get & Synaptic get the programs from
[08:03] <Madpilot> djcheezecake: lots of repos issues all the time, really...
[08:03] <djcheezecake> i can see that..
[08:04] <djcheezecake> sorry...was watchin tv at the same time...meant...i can believe that..
[08:05] <Chickenman> again
[08:05] <Madpilot> djcheezecake: you might be interested in this: http://www.ubuntu.cc.com.au/pop.php
[08:05] <ram_einstein> could someone suggest an automatic mass-jpeg resizer
[08:06] <Madpilot> it's a list of all ubotu's entries, sorted by usage...
[08:06] <ram_einstein> I want to resize some jpegs all of the same size to the same standard size, doing it one-by-one seems tedious
[08:06] <hyphenated> ram_einstein: that's what 'convert' is for. it's an imagemagick program
[08:07] <guardianx3> after i click the i check the * show disable software sorces*   in the repos and then enter the command  sudo apt-get install vlc .. i get this error msg ( E: Couldn't find package vlc
[08:07] <djcheezecake> Madpilot: what is ubotu btw...is that a bot..?
[08:07] <ram_einstein> hyphenated, imagemagik?
[08:07] <Madpilot> !ubotu
[08:07] <ubotu> somebody said ubotu was uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add".
[08:07] <hyphenated> ram_einstein: I use it for resizing digital camera photos with a script like: for i in *.jpg; do convert -resize 25% ${i} small/${i}; done
[08:08] <Madpilot> guardianx3: see that URL I posted, it's got step-by-step instructions
[08:08] <spiral> how do I send mail from the apache user<EMAIL_ADDRESS>using a different username<EMAIL_ADDRESS>using postfix?
[08:08] <djcheezecake> !ubotu
[08:08] <ubotu> I heard ubotu is uh... Thaaat's me! I'm a bot. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add".
[08:08] <ram_einstein> hyphenated, convert doesn't seem to be installed
[08:08] <djcheezecake> interesting!
[08:08] <Madpilot> djcheezecake: ... and useful! ;)
[08:08] <spiral> !ubotu add
[08:08] <ubotu> I guess add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets
[08:09] <hyphenated> dpkg -S $(which convert) => imagemagick: /usr/bin/convert
[08:09] <guardianx3> madpilot - i followed the instruction and check the box . and so on. but it when i enter the get ap command for vlc it still say the same error
[08:09] <hyphenated> ram_einstein: apt-get install imagemagick
[08:09] <spiral> !ubotu postfix
[08:09] <ubotu> spiral: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:09] <ram_einstein> one sec hyphenated
[08:09] <djcheezecake> so no references on ubuntuguide eh..? =P
[08:09] <Madpilot> guardianx3: if you're already in Synaptic, use that, not apt-get
[08:09] <Madpilot> guardianx3: you can't have Synaptic & apt-get running at the same time, they conflict
[08:10] <guardianx3> so what do i type? i'm sorry i'm 2 hrs old in linux and ubuntu
[08:10] <Gatton> !ubotu why does totem suck so much? ;)
[08:10] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Gatton
[08:10] <zaguar> i think
[08:10] <Madpilot> guardianx3: don't type anything. Use Synaptic and just search for vlc
[08:10] <zaguar> that it;s its lack of features
[08:10] <zaguar> or use apt-get install gvlc
[08:10] <zaguar> gvlc cause you use gnome
[08:11] <Madpilot> zaguar: he's already got Syn running, might as well use that
[08:11] <cafuego> !ping
[08:11] <zaguar> Madpilot: kk - didn't see
[08:11] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, cafuego.
[08:11] <ram_einstein> thanks hyphenated, downloading imagemagick now
[08:11] <zaguar> Madpilot: But he should get gvlc
[08:11] <cafuego> that's better
[08:11] <zaguar> Madpilot: not vlc cause it dosn't have gnome support IIRC
[08:12] <Madpilot> zaguar: probably - I was just trying to sort his Synaptic issues out. I just use Totem for vid, it's a great app! ;)
[08:12] <guardianx3> madpilot - i did a search for vlc and nothing show up
[08:12] <guardianx3> in the synaptic
[08:12] <Gatton> try wxvlc
[08:12] <zaguar> Repositories?
[08:12] <Madpilot> guardianx3: it's in there. you need to get your repositories sorted out.
[08:12] <Madpilot> !info vlc
[08:12] <zaguar> Do nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:12] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[08:12] <crimsun> zaguar: it does have gnome support. I compiled it with such.
[08:13] <cafuego> !info libdvdcss2
[08:13] <Madpilot> zaguar: he's already running Syn, all the repo stuff can be done there...
[08:13] <zaguar> True
[08:13] <ram_einstein> hyphenated, instead of 25%, can I give a standard size in pixels?
[08:13] <Madpilot> !info vlc
[08:13] <zaguar> Madpilot: I'll shut up :(
[08:13] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.1-1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 4867 kB, Installed size: 11816 kB
[08:13] <Gatton> but old habits die hard. just used to editing sources.list
[08:13] <hyphenated> ram_einstein: you can do whatever the man page tells you is possible
[08:14] <guardianx3> honestly i jus dont see it ! do i have to download some package???
[08:14] <cafuego> !find libdvdcss2
[08:14] <Madpilot> zaguar: if you can advise about movie players, please do, but you're just confusing the issue WRT repos...
[08:14] <Madpilot> guardianx3: hit the Reload button in Synaptic - that updates all your repo lists
[08:14] <zaguar> Madpilot: Sorry mate
[08:15] <cafuego> liar
[08:15] <guardianx3> when i hit the reload only 22 file get update
[08:15] <guardianx3> and there is no vlc to be found
[08:15] <jasmuz> guardianx3: im going to give you a step by step guide, ok
[08:16] <ram_einstein> thanks hyphenated
[08:16] <Gatton> Madpilot, why not have him paste his sources.list somewhere so we can look at it?
[08:16] <guardianx3> jasmuz- ok
[08:17] <Madpilot> Gatton: was trying to do the CLI-free way, but evidently that isn't working! ;) want to walk guardianx3 thru that, please?
[08:18] <Gatton> Madpilot, well I agree CLI is a good last resort. I assume he added repositories through Synaptic? If so just wondered if something got screwed up in the formatting or something. Although it shouldn't
[08:19] <jasmuz> Gatton: im taking care of it
[08:19] <Madpilot> Gatton: apparently he followed the wiki repos page, which is entirely based on Synaptic, so I'm not sure what's going wrong.
[08:19] <Gatton> jasmuz, ok cool
[08:19] <Madpilot> jasmuz: thanks
[08:20] <guardianx3> k
[08:20] <Gatton> Madpilot, oh ok. Yea because I get 23 packages when I search on vlc
[08:20] <asd> how can i restore the mbr?
[08:21] <zaguar> asd: what happened?
[08:21] <asd> cloned a disk...
[08:21] <starfishy> are you going to install a boot manager?
[08:21] <asd> yes
[08:21] <starfishy> if so, just install it and it will fix the problem
[08:22] <asd> how?
[08:22] <guardianx3> gatton - oh i get only 22 package when i hit the reload button
[08:22] <starfishy> if you are installing lilo, edit lilo.conf, then run lilo
[08:22] <guardianx3> maybe that is why i dont see the vlc package
[08:22] <Gatton> guardianx3, and you get 0 when you search on vlc?
[08:22] <starfishy> if you install grub, run grub-install
[08:23] <asd> but i cant boot from the hd
[08:23] <ram_einstein> what is the trash folder? how do I access it from console?
[08:23] <guardianx3> gatton- yes i get o when i search for vlc
[08:23] <Madpilot> Gatton: same here, and I just had a look at the wiki page, and it works
[08:23] <asd> the mbr is broken
[08:23] <guardianx3> do i have to reboot for the repos to take into effect?
[08:24] <Gatton> nope
[08:24] <Gatton> just reload should do the trick
[08:24] <ram_einstein> what is the trash folder? how do I access it from console?
[08:24] <spiral> how do I send mail from the apache user<EMAIL_ADDRESS>using a different username<EMAIL_ADDRESS>using postfix?
[08:24] <fr500> hello
[08:24] <holycow> sudo apt-get update after you add repos
[08:24] <starfishy> boot from the CD and mount the hard disk partition as root
[08:24] <Madpilot> guardianx3: only one thing in Linux requires a reboot, and adjusting repos isn't it!
[08:24] <Gatton> hehe
[08:24] <fr500> do you know where to find a working tutorial for active directory integration in ubuntu?
[08:25] <PPC_Guy> could the age of a dvd drive effect detection?
[08:25] <holycow> fr500, samba.org
[08:26] <starfishy> not really, all dvd drives are either ATAPI or SCSI
[08:26] <starfishy> if it is in working condition and the driver is available it should be detected fine
[08:27] <zaguar> rameinstein: its /home/$user/.Trash
[08:28] <sasyi_girls> hai
[08:28] <zaguar> rameinstein: so go cd ~/.Trash
[08:28] <fr500> thx holycow
[08:28] <n8lewis> is there a way to run flash in ubuntu?
[08:28] <Gatton> !ubotu flash
[08:28] <ubotu> well, flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:29] <PPC_Guy> I get the error " there is no plugin to play this movie"
[08:29] <n8lewis> no I mean the flash editor
[08:29] <n8lewis> like flash MX
[08:29] <guardianx3> ok i got it working....... it was my fault i didnt read the end ...
[08:29] <zaguar> PPC_Guy: What's the movie type?
[08:29] <PPC_Guy> King of the Hill DVD
[08:29] <guardianx3> i didnt check the universal thing
[08:29] <Gatton> n8lewis, not sure. you could try running it under Wine maybe
[08:29] <PPC_Guy> nothing special or fancy
[08:29] <guardianx3> after i install vlc where is the program locate? how do i run it in gnome?
[08:30] <zaguar> you got decss?
[08:30] <PPC_Guy> talking to me zaguar?
[08:30] <zaguar> yeah
[08:30] <PPC_Guy> nope..
[08:30] <Gatton> guardianx3, mine is in Applications, Sound & Video
[08:30] <PPC_Guy> root@shitbox:/home/cledusddp # apt-get install decss
[08:30] <PPC_Guy> Reading package lists... Done
[08:30] <PPC_Guy> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:30] <PPC_Guy> E: Couldn't find package decss
[08:31] <HrdwrBoB> libdvdcss2
[08:31] <Madpilot> PPC_Guy: I think you want libdvdcss2?
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> root@shitbox:/home/cledusddp # apt-get install libdvdcss2
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> Reading package lists... Done
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> is only available from another source
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[08:32] <PPC_Guy> soorry guys didn't mean to offend anyone
[08:32] <Gatton> hehe
[08:33] <Madpilot> PPC_Guy: it does exist. check your sources list/repos
[08:33] <PPC_Guy> will do
[08:33] <Madpilot> Gatton: whee, another repos question... ;)
[08:33] <Gatton> i think i might have got all that stuff the nerim repos
[08:33] <Gatton> Madpilot, that does seem to be the trend this evening :)
[08:33] <zaguar> It's in marillat repos IIRC
[08:33] <Madpilot> Gatton: it's in one of the regular Ubuntu repos - just a sec
[08:33] <epicenter> I have a package that says it needs GTK+ 2.0, what package is this? libgtk-2.0-0 doesn't seem to do it....
[08:33] <epicenter> and I can't find anything called gtk+.
[08:34] <Madpilot> it's in backports/extras
[08:34] <crimsun> libgtk2.0-dev
[08:34] <zaguar> epiccenter: if it clearlooks?
[08:34] <zaguar> cause you need the dev package
[08:34] <zaguar> for that
[08:34] <linfreak> howdy
[08:34] <Gatton> evening
[08:35] <PPC_Guy> indeed
[08:35] <epicenter> ahh
[08:35] <linfreak> i think i've reached a new low
[08:35] <highvoltage> hello
[08:35] <linfreak> ello
[08:35] <linfreak> i just bought an orkut invite off of ebay
[08:36] <guardianx3> gatton- yay it is working
[08:36] <zaguar> PPC_Guy:  Install the Automated script at the UbuntuForums
[08:36] <crimsun> ubuntu-offtopic, please, linfreak.
[08:36] <Gatton> guardianx3, glad to hear it :)
[08:36] <guardianx3> horray
[08:36] <guardianx3> 1st time installing something in linux
[08:36] <zaguar> PPC_Guy:  wget http://download.ubuntuforums.org/ubuntusetup/ubuntusetup.sh
[08:36] <Gatton> guardianx3, i promise things usually go smoother ;)
[08:36] <Madpilot> guardianx3: it gets easier from now on!
[08:36] <Gatton> although there are always speed bumps
[08:36] <zaguar> PPC_Guy:  then sudo sh ubuntusetup.sh
[08:36] <Gatton> the hardest part is getting everything working the first time. from then on it's pretty smooth sailing
[08:37] <Gatton> until you decide to buy a wireless card or something ;)
[08:37] <Gatton> Or try to get your Minolta printer to work :(
[08:37] <Madpilot> Gatton: ah, wireless! if the gods had intended for linux users to use wireless, they wouldn't have invented Cat5 cable! ;)
[08:38] <guardianx3> my next question is....... i have a ti 200 nvdia card with tv out... how do i switch it to tv??
[08:38] <Gatton> Madpilot, agreed. I am staying wired for the forseeable future
[08:38] <guardianx3> on my winxp box i set it so when ever i press alt+1 it would switch to the tv.. and then switch back to monitor
[08:38] <barkley> Totem could not startup: resource is not available: what's that deal again?
[08:39] <Madpilot> guardianx3: do you have video drivers installed yet?
[08:39] <Linux_Man> If there is any other repositories lost soul out there, query me....so i can give you the same step by step guide
[08:39] <Madpilot> !nvidia
[08:39] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[08:40] <Gatton> But if that's a special functionality of the Windows driver hmmmm
[08:40] <barkley> do i need to change totem to oss or esd or what?
[08:40] <Gatton> guardianx3, did you have to assign that hot key? or that was the default?
[08:40] <barkley> with that resource busy problem
[08:41] <logical_mark> Hey guys I am following instructions I foind online to mount an NFS partiotion and they are having me modify the /etc/fstab file, but it keep opening as read only. How do I open it under root?
[08:41] <LlukaX> hi does anyone know how to get a usb wireless connection to work in ubuntu?
[08:41] <Madpilot> logical_mark: add "sudo" to the front of whatever command line you're using
[08:41] <barkley> so what's up with totem?
[08:42] <hyphenated> logical_mark: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.orig; sudo youreditor /etc/fstab
[08:42] <Gatton> logical_mark, what he said. and remember to use your password
[08:42] <barkley> the device resource busy business
[08:43] <LlukaX> also it freezes at bootup " loading hotplug subsystem",i have to control c out
[08:43] <znh> Hmmm, when Iam trying to play Enemy-Territory, it gives a input/output error while trying to nmap /dev/dsp - with XMMS it works fine
[08:44] <glick> is enemy territory a game for linux?
[08:44] <znh> yes, it's native
[08:45] <Tomcat_> glick: It's cross platform
[08:45] <glick> Tomcat_, a free game?
[08:45] <Tomcat_> glick: Yes, free.
[08:45] <glick> hmm ima check it out
[08:45] <glick> there a website?
[08:45] <Madpilot> glick: there's something in the Ubuntu wiki about it
[08:45] <znh> glick: learn how to google !
[08:45] <jasmuz> im out
[08:45] <jasmuz> take care guys
[08:46] <znh> so doesn't anyone know
[08:46] <logical_mark> GOD I AM LOVING THIS LINUX SHIT!
[08:46] <barkley> Totem could not startup: resource is not available: what's that deal again?
[08:46] <glick> wow
[08:46] <glick> how can that be open source?
[08:46] <logical_mark> I just got into linux and ubuntu was a huge help with getting past all the hardware troubles
[08:46] <znh> glick: It is not
[08:46] <n8lewis> Yeah linux rox
[08:46] <Madpilot> glick: not sure it's open, but the US Army is giving it away...
[08:46] <starfishy> hehehe
[08:46] <Tomcat_> ET is not OS?
[08:46] <parabolize> logical_mark, cool
[08:47] <starfishy> my first linux was kernel 0.98pl5
[08:47] <glick> it says this on the site
[08:47] <glick> Get Started and Download For Free (Open Source)
[08:47] <znh> Tomcat_: there are binary's for linux, it isn't opensource - woulden't be safe anyway
[08:47] <starfishy> downloaded 10 floppy disks :)
[08:47] <LlukaX> anyone have a similar problem with hotplug?
[08:47] <glick> haha you have to register to play the game?
[08:47] <Tomcat_> znh: Well there are ways to stop cheaters and be open source... but it's harder. :P
[08:47] <Madpilot> glick: isn't ET online only
[08:47] <Madpilot> ?
[08:48] <znh> Madpilot: no, you can also play it on LAN :P
[08:48] <freddy> yay!
[08:48] <Tomcat_> Madpilot: Playing it alone is possible but pointless. :)
[08:48] <glick> haha i bet the game secretly sends your scores to the army and those with the best scores get put on the first draft list
[08:48] <Madpilot> OK, multi-player only, then...
[08:48] <glick> im very weary of anything the army gives away for free
[08:48] <Tomcat_> What does ET have to do with the army? :o
[08:48] <barkley> so where's the totem page in ubuntuguide?
[08:48] <parabolize> LlukaX, whats the nic?
[08:48] <Madpilot> glick: that's America's Army, not ET - I was mistaken
[08:48] <glick> ah
[08:48] <glick> who makes ET
[08:48] <LlukaX> no card
[08:48] <LlukaX> its a usb
[08:49] <parabolize> ya
[08:49] <Tomcat_> ET is a game of id Software/Activision/Splashdamage, it doesn't have anything to do with the army.
[08:49] <LlukaX> D-Link G-120
[08:49] <LlukaX> ack
[08:49] <glick> and id made it open source?
[08:49] <LlukaX> DWL-G120
[08:49] <barkley> q3 is not open source yet
[08:49] <parabolize> looking up now
[08:50] <barkley> but somehow the GPL zealots don't bust Id or Epic
[08:50] <barkley> typical groupthink
[08:50] <guardianx3> after i install the nvidia  driver in ubunto how do i switch it to the tv?
[08:50] <Madpilot> barkley: Id will open-source q3 when they release q4, I assume. q2 *is* open now
[08:50] <stjepan> heya
[08:51] <stjepan> I installed ubuntu
[08:51] <stjepan> where is grub config file?
[08:51] <fr500> /boot/grub?
[08:51] <barkley> Madpilot, q3 gets opened up when the last licensor gets to a certain point of development
[08:51] <guardianx3> how do i switch from monitor view to tv-out ?
[08:51] <glick> the game looks freakin amazing
[08:51] <parabolize> LlukaX, well its not on the list at http://linux_wless.passys.nl but im still looking
[08:51] <fr500> what game?
[08:51] <glick> ET
[08:51] <barkley> Madpilot, how come the rabid gpl zealots don't demand that id or epic open up their engines from the beginning?
[08:51] <fr500> ET?
[08:51] <barkley> what is ET?
[08:52] <glick> Enemy Territory
[08:52] <fr500> the one based on wolf?
[08:52] <fr500> ok
[08:52] <barkley> it's not an open engine
[08:52] <glick> its open source right?
[08:52] <linfreak> how do i enable permissions to write and modify on a selected folder?
[08:52] <barkley> it's on q3
[08:52] <Madpilot> barkley: because they've got better things to do?
[08:52] <barkley> no
[08:52] <barkley> ET is based off of q3 which is not open source
[08:52] <starfishy> linfreak: chmod
[08:52] <stjepan> fr500: /boot/grub is a directory
[08:52] <glick> barkley, but on the webstire look what it says where you download
[08:52] <glick> it says Get Started and Download For Free (Open Source)
[08:52] <fr500> stjepan, inside there, menu.lst i think
[08:52] <starfishy> stjepan: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:53] <fr500> glick,, free and open source are diferent
[08:53] <Madpilot> cool game based on q2: http://www.ufoai.net/  <-- it runs in Ubuntu, too
[08:53] <barkley> wait a minute. what engine is enemy terrirotry based on?
[08:53] <glick> fr500, no it says "(open source)"
[08:53] <fr500> q3 i think, wolf 3d return to the castle
[08:53] <fr500> glick, ok
[08:53] <barkley> fr500, yes
[08:53] <barkley> and q3 is not open source yet
[08:53] <fr500> i know
[08:54] <barkley> so anybody know the answer to the classic totem problem of resource device busy or whatever
[08:54] <guardianx3> how do i make vlc  be the default movie player instead of the totem  ???
[08:55] <barkley> god knows i should just stick to ubuntu and stop dicking around with these other distros
[08:55] <guardianx3> agree with barkley
[08:55] <stjepan> fr500, starfishy: tnx
[08:55] <fr500> guardianx3, for each file type select open with or something, there is a way to select
[08:55] <ram_einstein> how do I rename *.JPG to *.jpg?
[08:55] <ram_einstein> rename *.JPG *.jpg doesn't work
[08:55] <barkley> where is the wiki page for totem?
[08:55] <highvoltage> ram_einstein: mv
[08:56] <barkley> we've all had this problem
[08:56] <barkley> or a lot of this
[08:56] <parabolize> LlukaX, looks like you need to use ndiswraper. link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[08:56] <ram_einstein> ah thanks highvoltage
[08:56] <barkley> godamn linux and the sound problems forever and forever
[08:56] <LlukaX> ok
[08:56] <ram_einstein> uh, highvoltage, how do I use it?
[08:56] <guardianx3> fr500 when i try that  i get an error msg saying coult not add application
[08:56] <ram_einstein> mv *.JPG *.jpg doesn't work
[08:57] <jtgameover> ram_einstein,
[08:57] <stjepan> I use ndiswrapper
[08:57] <crimsun> barkley: are you using esd?
[08:57] <stjepan> it is great
[08:57] <jtgameover> you have to write a script
[08:57] <jtgameover> or
[08:57] <Madpilot> barkley: apparently Breezy is going to have way better sound mngt
[08:57] <stjepan> ok
[08:57] <jtgameover> do a one liner
[08:57] <stjepan> tnx guys
[08:57] <stjepan> see you
[08:57] <barkley> crimsun, i think that's the fscking problem. and i'm pissed
[08:57] <fr500> guardianx3, works for me, are u sure u typed the command the way it is?
[08:57] <ram_einstein> jtgameover, a one liner then
[08:57] <jtgameover> for filename in *.JPG; do mv $filename.JPG $filename.jpg
[08:57] <barkley> Madpilot, i'm in breezy. i should write this shit down when i change distros
[08:57] <crimsun> barkley: calm down and ask the question intelligently. I can't read your mind.
[08:57] <barkley> crimsum: i think it's the esd problem
[08:57] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, that may be wrong actually
[08:58] <barkley> resource buys or not available
[08:58] <ram_einstein> um, it comes up with a prompt jtgameover
[08:58] <guardianx3> fr500  what do u type ? i did it via gnome........ right click the file properties and so on
[08:58] <fr500> guardianx3, did you select open with?
[08:58] <linfreak> i can't figure out what to type after chmod in the terminal to enable the writes to write and modify
[08:58] <crimsun> barkley: then you need to confirm it's the esd problem first. What is System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Sink configured as?
[08:58] <barkley> linux still has to get over this also transition hurdle
[08:58] <LlukaX> ok
[08:58] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, gimme a sec
[08:58] <barkley> crimsun, let me check. thanks for the help brother
[08:58] <glick> damn i registered for it and its taking forever to get my damn confirmation email
[08:58] <glick> wtf
[08:58] <fr500> linfreak, chmod xxx filename
[08:58] <ram_einstein> I modified it to for filename in *.JPG; do mv $filename.JPG $filename.jpg; done
[08:58] <ram_einstein>  but it still doesn't work jtgameover
[08:59] <linfreak> what if it's a directory?
[08:59] <fr500> xxx=permissions for user, group, other i think
[08:59] <fr500> x's are octal numbres
[08:59] <ram_einstein> linfreak, chmod -R dirname
[08:59] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, yeah you gotta use basename
[08:59] <jtgameover> i am trying it out myself first
[08:59] <jtgameover> so i can tell you the right thing
[08:59] <guardianx3> fr500- i right click on the avi file and slelect " open with other app"
[08:59] <ram_einstein> okay jtgameover
[08:59] <barkley> crimsun, ok, we're making progress brother.  multi-media selector just locked up on me on the source input
[08:59] <fr500> ok
[08:59] <fr500> then there select other i think, i'm on windows now
[09:00] <guardianx3> then a list of app appear and i scroll down to vlc . and click add. then i get "couldnt add app "
[09:00] <fr500> and there you type the command for the app you want
[09:00] <fr500> guardianx3, oh, no clue then
[09:00] <crimsun> barkley: Default Source is irrelevant. Default Sink is what we're concerned with.
[09:00] <barkley> crimsun, ok, default source isn't giving me sounds
[09:00] <fr500> well gotta hit the track with the vette tomorrow, so i'm out
[09:00] <ram_einstein> linfreak, chmod *** -R dirname
[09:00] <barkley> crimsum: the alsa sink did give me sound
[09:00] <guardianx3> how do i use the tv-out option in my nvidia card with ubuntu ??
[09:00] <spiral> how do I send mail from the apache user<EMAIL_ADDRESS>using a different username<EMAIL_ADDRESS>using postfix?
[09:01] <holycow> http://devsec.sourceforge.net/  <-- neato
[09:01] <crimsun> barkley: Do other gstreamer applications, such as Rhythmbox (Music Player), work?
[09:01] <ram_einstein> jtgameover?
[09:01] <Poromies> hi all, anyone know any good 64bit games? just got my 3d-accel working :)
[09:01] <fr500> linfreak, you combine this values for the *s, 4 2 or 1, 4 for read access, 2 for write and 1 for access i think, so for everyones access you type chmod -R 777 dir
[09:01] <barkley> crimsun, default sink of also is giving me sound
[09:01] <glick> can i install ET so its a local user install and not a root install?
[09:01] <jtgameover> hmm yeah
[09:01] <barkley> alsa
[09:01] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, are you familiar with a shell script
[09:02] <fr500> i don't advise 777 tho
[09:02] <jtgameover> i am not good with these one-liners to do directly into a terminal
[09:02] <fr500> jtgameover, what u wanna do?
[09:02] <linfreak> fr500; and this will allow my non sudo user to write?
[09:02] <jtgameover> fr500, he wants to rename all .JPG to .jpg
[09:03] <fr500> hmm, you want an script to rename, say all the files in one dir?
[09:03] <barkley> crimsun, geez dude, how do i just play a .mp3. i've got multiverse and i think i imported the gstreamer plugin. rhythmbox is so freaking weird. i just want to play a damn .mp3
[09:03] <barkley> crimsun, i don't want to "import"
[09:03] <fr500> linfreak, 777 yes
[09:03] <barkley> linux has such a ways to go in sound
[09:03] <ram_einstein> jtgameover, I'll try
[09:03] <barkley> i've been programming on linux for 8 years professionaly, and sound is still a mess
[09:04] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, try what?
[09:04] <jtgameover> are you familiar with shell scripts?
[09:04] <fr500> i have sone scripts to load files with static routes execute command, do you want it, same principle should apply, just change the actual commands
[09:04] <ram_einstein> no jtgameover
[09:04] <crimsun> barkley: have you used gst-launch-0.8 to test the alsasink with an mp3?
[09:04] <guardianx3> which one do i download to install into my system so i can use the tv-out http://sourceforge.net/projects/nv-tv-out/
[09:05] <fr500> ie: instead of ip route add you would put rename
[09:05] <linfreak> thanks
[09:05] <fr500> linfreak, you need to use sudo previous to chmod
[09:05] <fr500> bye everyone
[09:05] <cafuego_> barkley: It not Linux; there are other distros that happily include mp3 and dvd libs by default.
[09:05] <ram_einstein> damn jtgameover, I messed up my filenames bigtime experimenting
[09:06] <glick> i dont get it when i click on download, it opens up the file in the browser, when i right click on et-linux-2.60 and choose save as, it tries to save the php re-direct file
[09:06] <glick> wtf how the hell do you download it
[09:06] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, what'd you do
[09:06] <Xyc0> barkley: it is easy enough to install the pluins
[09:06] <jtgameover> i can't help you undo it....
[09:06] <ram_einstein> jtgameover, it's okay
[09:06] <ram_einstein> you tried to help atleast
[09:06] <cafuego_> glick: it probably tries to save et-2.60 as a file CALLED redirect.php
[09:06] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, one sec
[09:07] <barkley> crimsun, let me check that out in synaptic. thanks for your help brother
[09:07] <glick> cafuego, modules.php
[09:07] <jtgameover>  for filename in *.png; do name=`basename $filename .png`; mv $filename $name.PNG; done
[09:07] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, it's something along those lines
[09:07] <f_newton> ram_einstein, if you need to reinstall
[09:07] <f_newton> and try to read before acting
[09:07] <barkley> ERROR: pipeline could not be constructed: empty pipeline not allowed.
[09:08] <cafuego_> for file in *.png; do mv $file $(basename $file .png).PNG; done
[09:08] <f_newton> save all them weird named jpgs to a cdrom
[09:08] <crimsun> barkley: what syntax are you using?
[09:08] <f_newton> wipe n reinstall
[09:08] <glick> cafuego, have you played the game?
[09:08] <ram_einstein> okay jtgameover thanks
[09:08] <barkley> crimsun, nothing passed to the commandline
[09:08] <Xyc0> What is the dev channel for ubuntu?
[09:08] <ram_einstein> what f_newton ?
[09:09] <crimsun> Xyc0: -devel
[09:09] <barkley> Xyc0, i installed all the plugins. that's not the problems
[09:09] <crimsun> barkley: you need to use the correct parameters
[09:09] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, cafuego just gave you the answer
[09:09] <f_newton> ram_einstein, if you screwed up your filenames reinstall
[09:09] <barkley> crimsun, k
[09:09] <jtgameover> i was forgetting to do $( )
[09:09] <Xyc0> crimsun: thnx
[09:09] <f_newton> its probably easier
[09:09] <crimsun> barkley: for instance, I'm testing successfully with: gst-launch-0.8 filesrc location=/mnt/Documents\ and\ Settings/Administrator/My\ Documents/My\ Music/Lynne\ Arriale/Live\ At\ Montreux/01\ -\ Alone\ Together.flac ! spider ! alsasink
[09:09] <f_newton> but back up all those jpgs first
[09:10] <ram_einstein> done f_newton
[09:10] <barkley> crimsum: so i can just pass a directory with mp3s to it?
[09:10] <f_newton> try to read a little about the os you use too
[09:10] <f_newton> it does come in handy
[09:10] <jtgameover> cafuego, actually that doesn't work
[09:10] <crimsun> barkley: pass a specific mp3 to it.
[09:10] <barkley> k
[09:10] <jtgameover> it still complains about the basename
[09:10] <ram_einstein> how do you rip just the filename from it's full name with extension?
[09:10] <jtgameover> and too many arguments
[09:10] <f_newton> I dont
[09:10] <ram_einstein> jtgameover, the problem is to rip just the name of the file
[09:10] <f_newton> all that is way too much work
[09:10] <jtgameover> which doesn't make sense because when you do a simple "basename file.png .png" it works fine
[09:10] <barkley> ** (process:24226): WARNING **: error: syntax error, unexpected $end, expecting LINK
[09:10] <barkley> ERROR: pipeline could not be constructed: Unrecoverable syntax error while parsing pipeline lugradio-s02e22-010805-low.ogg
[09:11] <glick> can my shit handle ET?
[09:11] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, yeah, this would work in a shell script
[09:11] <f_newton> I actually use my os as a work os
[09:11] <f_newton> lol
[09:11] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, you just don't wnat to do any "mv" until you're sure
[09:11] <jtgameover> that you have things right
[09:11] <ram_einstein> jtgameover, fine, shell script thet
[09:11] <crimsun> barkley: what precise syntax are you using?
[09:11] <barkley> crimsun, hold on
[09:11] <crimsun> brb, restarting X Window System
[09:12] <barkley> chris@lilbuntu:~$ gst-launch filesrc location=/home/chris/lugradio-s02e22-010805-low.ogg
[09:12] <barkley> RUNNING pipeline ...
[09:12] <barkley> Execution ended after 1 iterations (sum 24000 ns, average 24000 ns, min 24000 ns, max 24000 ns).
[09:12] <barkley> chris@lilbuntu:~$
[09:13] <guardianx3> is there a way to enable the tv-out option on my nvida card so i cn watch movies on the tv???
[09:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> !java
[09:13] <ubotu> well, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[09:13] <Xyc0> guardianx3: nvtv is a nice program for that
[09:14] <Xyc0> guardianx3: look for it in synaptic to see if you can install it from there
[09:14] <logical_mark> hey guys quick question from a newb - How do I login to ubuntu as the root user. I have tried at the login screen typing root and then the password but it tells me the username or password is wrong which I knwo it is not
[09:14] <Xyc0> logical_mark: you need to change the roots password
[09:15] <Xyc0> logical_mark: it is randomly generated at install
[09:15] <logical_mark> Xyc thanks. How do I do that?
[09:15] <Xyc0> System > Admin > Users
[09:15] <crimsun> barkley: read the syntax I used carefully.
[09:16] <Xyc0> logical_mark: you have to "show all users and groups"
[09:16] <barkley> crimsun, got rhythmbox to work
[09:16] <logical_mark> found it thanks
[09:16] <guardianx3> xyc0 after i install the nvtv how do i access it??
[09:16] <logical_mark> later
[09:16] <crimsun> barkley: now test with Totem
[09:16] <spiral> has anyone installed postfix on ubuntu?
[09:17] <Burgundavia> spiral, already installed by default
[09:17] <Xyc0> guardianx3: pretty sure it is nvtv in terminal
[09:17] <Burgundavia> Xyc0, actually, root is locked, no password at all
[09:17] <barkley> crimsun, nahh. totem dies as usual
[09:17] <spiral> Burgundavia, it does not seem to be working for me with php
[09:17] <barkley> crimsun, but thanks for your help
[09:18] <barkley> crimsun
[09:18] <Xyc0> Burgundavia: you sure?  I could have sworn it was random numbers
[09:18] <Burgundavia> spiral, it is locked to only listen to the localhost and only deliver to the admin email
[09:19] <spiral> Burgundavia, I want php/apache to use it to send email...what direction should I take?
[09:20] <Burgundavia> spiral, there are some nice postfix docs on the web. Let me see if I can dig one up for you
[09:20] <glick> anyone here play ET?
[09:20] <spiral> Burgundavia thanks, that would be great
[09:20] <Burgundavia> spiral, http://www.postfix.org/documentation.html
[09:20] <cafuego_> Xyc0: it is not randomly generated, it is set to "disable login".
[09:21] <cafuego_> spiral: You cnn just use mail() as documented in php after you install and set up postfix.
[09:21] <Xyc0> cafuego_: I know that you have to allow login through gdm, but I am talking about the password itself.
[09:21] <holycow> heh, heres a fun command for all of you that have nvidia / ati drivers properly installed with 3d acceleration: sudo apt-get install scorched3d
[09:21] <cafuego_> Xyc0: yes, the password field is set to "x", which means "no logins allowed".
[09:22] <holycow> -_-
[09:22] <ilba7r> when i run evolution edit>prefrences the window is outside the visible area in my desktop is that normal?
[09:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmmm somethings not right here >.<
[09:22] <Madpilot> holycow: already did that, it's a great app!
[09:23] <cafuego_> holycow: broken on breezy :-)
[09:23] <spiral> cafuego, I have installed it, but it is not working... and I am using tha mail() function in phyp
[09:23] <holycow> not here :)
[09:23] <holycow> oh breezy, haaha!
[09:23] <holycow> indeedy :)
[09:23] <cafuego_> spiral: Does /usr/lib/sendmail exist?
[09:23] <Burgundavia> holycow, it is very sad. I cannot blow my brother up (he is still sanely running hoary)
[09:24] <f_newton> ilba7r, yes it is.... maximize it and it will fit in your window
[09:24] <cafuego_> and nvidia seems to be not workign as of 2.6.13 :-)
[09:24] <holycow> hehe :) just found it, we need a gamers page on the ubuntu website
[09:24] <Xyc0> big game
[09:24] <f_newton> hey I play freecell
[09:24] <Burgundavia> holycow, feel free to start one
[09:24] <Amaranth> cafuego: Why must you run custom kernels? It makes me sad. :(
[09:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm i followed the java howto and how to add universe repos from that page i clicked reload and searched for "sun-j2re1.5 " but nothing shows what did i do wrong?
[09:24] <cafuego_> !find libwxgtk2.4
[09:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'libwxgtk2.4' (6 shown): libwxgtk2.4 ;; libwxgtk2.4-contrib ;; libwxgtk2.4-contrib-dev ;; libwxgtk2.4-dbg ;; libwxgtk2.4-dev ;; libwxgtk2.4-python.
[09:24] <ilba7r> f_newton is there any way we can fix that
[09:25] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you need hoary-extras
[09:25] <holycow> Burgundavia, *smack* i forget its a wiki, righto
[09:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ohhhhh
[09:25] <Madpilot> holycow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryGames
[09:25] <f_newton> Amaranth, Thats a shame because that is one of the best ways to learn
[09:25] <f_newton> and learning is just as important as accepting
[09:25] <Amaranth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: Someone fscked up the Java wiki page so now the only way to get Java cleanly is to get it illegally.
[09:25] <Burgundavia> holycow, UbuntuGaming sounds good
[09:25] <spiral> cafuego - yes /usr/lib/sendmail exists, and so does /usr/sbin/sendmail
[09:25] <cafuego_> illegally?
[09:25] <holycow> ah there is a category, neat, thx Maddy
[09:25] <holycow> Madpilot, even
[09:26] <cafuego_> spiral: Is there anything logged in /var/log/mail.log after calling mail() ?
[09:26] <spiral> cafuego
[09:26] <Burgundavia> holycow, link to the category for a full listing
[09:26] <Amaranth> cafuego_: Yeah, there is a reason Ubuntu doesn't ship Sun Java
[09:26] <Madpilot> holycow: np ;)
[09:26] <Burgundavia> holycow, but a page is not a category and vice versa
[09:26] <Amaranth> cafuego_: It's illegal to do so.
[09:26] <f_newton> ilba7r, its been that way for many moons
[09:26] <holycow> Burgundavia, good point
[09:26] <cafuego_> Amaranth: Yes, but downloading and converting isn't illegal, is it?
[09:26] <Amaranth> no
[09:26] <Burgundavia> cafuego, you cannot redistribute it
[09:26] <Amaranth> but the wiki doesn't show you how to do that anymore
[09:26] <f_newton> try the sun site
[09:26] <spiral> cafuego - how do I have installed postfix, but do I need to compile something?
[09:27] <Burgundavia> cafuego, if you could, it would be in multiverse
[09:27] <ilba7r> f_newton lol i know i got rid of that problem by changing the font setting the problem i forgot how thanx for your help though
[09:27] <cafuego_> Amaranth: Not that hard to make the wiki say "install java-package and read the docs"
[09:27] <Amaranth> The wiki just shows you how to add hoary-extras to your sources.list, which is less than useless unless you don't care about these 'law' things.
[09:27] <f_newton> ilba7r, changing the font setting changed the window size?
[09:28] <Burgundavia> cafuego, the java page used to go into how to create your own java package
[09:28] <cafuego_> Ok, they removed it in favour of extras?
[09:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm ok i enabled all my repos except backports and still nothing >.<
[09:28] <Burgundavia> cafuego, but either a bug or my own stupidity killed it
[09:28] <Burgundavia> cafuego, the old page that is
[09:28] <ilba7r> f_newton instead of the default 96dpi i changed it to about 75dpi where every thing was smaller and better for my laptop
[09:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it just dosen't show up in synaptic >.<
[09:28] <cafuego_> Burgundavia: Hmm, tasty back-ups ;-)
[09:28] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FoamY, see wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:28] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FoamY, see hoary-extras
[09:28] <glick> how is enemy territory?
[09:29] <Lhea> awesome :p
[09:29] <logical_mark> Hey guys. I just used Synaptic Package Manager to install Pure-FTP Server. I restarted gnome-panel but I still cant find the launcher for the program
[09:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yes and i enabled them as well
[09:29] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, it may not have it
[09:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> useing the howto guide
[09:29] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, some programs don't
[09:29] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i also get a whole bunch of errors as well
[09:29] <PenguinOfDoom> Is it possible to downgrade a Debian unstable libc to the Ubuntu package without uninstalling every single package on the system?
[09:29] <f_newton> kewl I just repaired a laptop key
[09:29] <logical_mark> Burg, how do I control it then?
[09:30] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, if it is a server, it is a probably a command-line thing
[09:30] <logical_mark> I am new to linux so for now is there a less advanced FTP server I could use a GUI w
[09:30] <logical_mark> ?
[09:30] <cafuego_> holycow: Ahaa! 32bit hoary chroot to teh rescue ;-)
[09:30] <Burgundavia> PenguinOfDoom, probably not
[09:30] <f_newton> let me see gftp is not a server
[09:31] <holycow> cafuego, you clever bastard you :)
[09:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> You Will Feel My Squrelly Rath >.<
[09:31] <f_newton> cant remember what the ftp server is in linux
[09:31] <ilba7r> vsftp is good server
[09:31] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, you need an ftp server or client?
[09:31] <ilba7r> also pftpd
[09:31] <f_newton> thats it
[09:31] <f_newton> !
[09:31] <ubotu> f_newton: No idea
[09:31] <cafuego_> holycow: Still need to boot back into old kernel so 'nvidia' actually works
[09:31] <Madpilot> f_newton: no, gFTP is a pile of <censored>...
[09:31] <logical_mark> server Burg
[09:31] <f_newton> duh forgot about the bot
[09:31] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, most servers on linux do not have guis for very good reasons
[09:31] <f_newton> well Madpilot there are about as many opinions about linux apps as there are apps
[09:32] <spiral> cafuego - how do I have installed postfix, but do I need to compile something?
[09:32] <logical_mark> Burg, in that case which one would you reccomend me?
[09:32] <cafuego_> mainly because linux servers don't have GUIs, unless they happen to run Fedora
[09:32] <Burgundavia> spiral, you have already got postfix installed, you just need to tweak the configuration
[09:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i have all of my repos enabled and updated universe , multivers and restricted what gives?
[09:32] <ilba7r> logical_mark if it is for lan better use ssh its more secure
[09:32] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, no idea, I have never set up a ftp server
[09:32] <Xyc0> cafuego_: red hat enterprise you mean?
[09:32] <Madpilot> f_newton: true, but gFTP is the least usable GUI FTP client I've ever seen...
[09:32] <ilba7r> if you worry about security then vsftp
[09:32] <spiral> ok
[09:32] <f_newton> well I dont use any of them so... a lot I would know eh?
[09:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> work damnnit
[09:32] <Burgundavia> ChurcH_of_FoamY, if you have enabled hoary-extras, do a search for name and description, java
[09:33] <cafuego_> spiral: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix" and answer its questions ... if you need a relay server etc, put those in.
[09:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[09:33] <f_newton> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you sound like my boss
[09:33] <cafuego_> Xyc0: Sorry, i just went blind when you said something...
[09:33] <spiral> Burgundavia - but I am trying to configure it...it is not working
[09:33] <Raskall> any suggestions of how I can type norwegian characters in breezy?
[09:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o
[09:33] <f_newton> hoary extras has to be installed doesnt it?
[09:33] <Burgundavia> Raskall, wait until the keyboard fixes hit
[09:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no relation to your boss i'm actually better looking and not mean ^_^
[09:33] <Burgundavia> f_newton, yes
[09:33] <Raskall> Burgundavia: what do you mean?
[09:33] <Xyc0> cafuego_: meaning you want me to repeat it or Red Hat makes you blind?
[09:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh yea I'm not a moron either lol
[09:34] <cafuego_> AIYEE!!!!
[09:34] <cafuego_> Amaranth: make him stop!
[09:34] <Burgundavia> Raskall, currently non-english keyboards are totally borked
[09:34] <Amaranth> ?
[09:34] <Raskall> Burgundavia: ok.
[09:34] <logical_mark> ilba7r, my friends and I rip DVDs and then when we meet up every week we use FTP to transfer them to each other. They use a windows ftp client so I dont want them to have to run another program just for me
[09:34] <Xyc0> he he he
[09:34] <Raskall> Burgundavia: nice to know it's not my fault.
[09:34] <ronybeck> Hi all
[09:34] <Xyc0> Fedora is a type of Hat
[09:34] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, why not just use sharing?
[09:34] <Burgundavia> Raskall, yes
[09:34] <Xyc0> Fedoras can be red too
[09:35] <cafuego_> Amaranth: </jk>
[09:35] <ronybeck> Has any one here got Ubuntu installed on a laptop with the Intel 915 chipset?
[09:35] <Amaranth> cafuego_: I'm not.
[09:35] <ilba7r> logical_mark they can install filezilla it support ssh and has a really good GUI
[09:35] <ronybeck> I can't get the isntaller to work
[09:35] <logical_mark> burgundavia, my friends think that pulling it from a shared folder is slower than FTP, which on windows it is
[09:35] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, shouldn't be
[09:35] <f_newton> what is the error msg ronybeck ?
[09:35] <ilba7r> other wise look at ubuntu guide.org they show you how to set proftp there
[09:36] <Burgundavia> ilba7r, please don't recommend the ubuntuguide
[09:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok a big ol list of java stuf popd up which one do i actually want?
[09:36] <ronybeck> f_newton, It seems to lock up on starting PCMCIA services or when it tries to detect the network card
[09:36] <ilba7r> burgundavia why? its really good
[09:36] <f_newton> ah
[09:36] <Xyc0> !ubuntuguide
[09:36] <gorilla_> !ubuntuguide
[09:36] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[09:36] <logical_mark> Burgundavia, also why? I have heard a lot od people say not to reccomend it but dont knwo why
[09:36] <f_newton> is it one of those onboard intel thingys?
[09:36] <gorilla_> Xyc0, :-)
[09:37] <ilba7r> ok ubotu will check it out
[09:37] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, see the above statement by ubotu
[09:37] <ronybeck> f_newton, yep.
[09:37] <tonii> where can I find the kernel source for Ubuntu? I need it for the nvidia driver. :)
[09:37] <f_newton> itw2200 or something?
[09:37] <logical_mark> Burgundavia, that is true. I have found that I am always asking myself why it is having me do what i am doing
[09:37] <logical_mark> I would rather it teach me than tell me
[09:37] <Burgundavia> tonii, why not simply install the nvidia driver from the repos?
[09:37] <crimsun> tonii: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:37] <ronybeck> f_newton, 1925abg
[09:37] <tonii> Burgundavia: didn't know there was such option?
[09:37] <tonii> first time i try Ubuntu
[09:38] <f_newton> uh the source code better come with the os install
[09:38] <ronybeck> f_newton, 2915abg sorry
[09:38] <Burgundavia> tonii, see the link crimsun gave you, actually quite simple
[09:38] <Burgundavia> f_newton, it must be avaible
[09:38] <f_newton> whats the first letters of it ronybeck
[09:38] <Burgundavia> f_newton, not necessarily installed by default
[09:38] <f_newton> it must accompany the software
[09:38] <tonii> Burgundavia: I will. :)
[09:38] <Xyc0> too bad ati cant be that easy
[09:38] <logical_mark> Burgundavia, should I use Samba or NFS to setup sharing?
[09:38] <crimsun> f_newton: it doesn't come on the cd, but one can install it from pool.
[09:38] <ronybeck> ipw
[09:38] <Xyc0> meh gnite all
[09:38] <ronybeck> f_newton, ipw
[09:39] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, samba, if you have windows friends
[09:39] <f_newton> you have the right to modify, distribute, providing you INCLUDE it
[09:39] <Burgundavia> f_newton, "If distribution of executable or object code is made by offering access to copy from a designated place, then offering equivalent access to copy the source code from the same place counts as distribution of the source code, even though third parties are not compelled to copy the source along with the object code.
[09:39] <Burgundavia> 4."
[09:39] <f_newton> ol
[09:39] <f_newton> uh ok
[09:40] <barkley> crimsun, thanks for your guidance, i at least got rhythmbox to play my 80s music:)
[09:40] <logical_mark> Burgundavia, all my friends run windows. As a matter of fact the reasson I am trying to get into linux is b/c I want to get into network security and a lot of IT stuff. Everyone I talk to says Learn LInux and C
[09:40] <ronybeck> f_newton, any clues?
[09:40] <logical_mark> but so far I really like it
[09:40] <barkley> logical_mark, you need both
[09:40] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, you can do network security on windows, it is not pretty (I have an MCP, for the record)
[09:40] <logical_mark> barkley, I need Samba and NFS?
[09:40] <barkley> logical_mark, windows is increasing int he server market
[09:40] <ilba7r> ok burgundavia i see the point there
[09:41] <Burgundavia> barkley, both are growing
[09:41] <barkley> logical_mark, zealots don't get hired
[09:41] <f_newton> yeah there is a timeout issue with those wifi chipsets and the work around is available but I think you have install first
[09:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> !java
[09:41] <ubotu> [java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin. NOTE: You have to check your sources.list and ensure multiverse is added.
[09:41] <logical_mark> barkley, zealots?
[09:41] <logical_mark> Burgundavia, MCP?
[09:41] <barkley> logical_mark, open source zealots
[09:41] <f_newton> ask Burgundavia or Amaranth they are very knowlegable
[09:41] <ronybeck> f_newton, yeah that doesn't help me though :-/
[09:41] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, Microsoft Certified Professional (Windows 2000 server)
[09:41] <f_newton> yes but the two I mentioned may be abel to
[09:42] <logical_mark> barkley, sorry but I still dont understand. I have only been in the OSS community for, eh, 3 days
[09:42] <barkley> logical_mark, i've been programming linux since '97 www.jbmelectronics.com
[09:42] <barkley> logical_mark, i hate FSF zealots. not open source zealots
[09:42] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, knowledge of both is useful. You will get more money by doing linux stuff
[09:42] <logical_mark> Burgundavia, I am still in high school guys so I have a lot of time to learn, but i like to be ahead
[09:42] <logical_mark> barkley, FSF?
[09:42] <logical_mark> bear with me guys I am new to all this
[09:43] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, Free Software Foundation. Basically started the whole Free Software/OSS thing
[09:43] <barkley> logical: the Free Software Foundation....a socialist organization that was founded by the socialist Richard Stallman
[09:43] <logical_mark> I will have to read up on them
[09:43] <guardianx3> how do i make x-chat automatically join ubuntu channel when ever i connect to freenode???
[09:43] <Amaranth> That'll be enough FUD for the night.
[09:44] <Madpilot> Amaranth: +q on barkley?
[09:44] <guardianx3> i'm getting tire of typing  /join #ubuntu
[09:44] <logical_mark> I have taken C++, Java, and Visual Basic @ my high school so I can understand lanuages quickly
[09:44] <radiodog> guardianx3, go to the server list, double click on the freenode server you use, and you'll see that magic box you want.
[09:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok anyone know how to install the stupid java crap from suns site?
[09:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> like an easy way to do it >.<
[09:44] <crimsun> Amaranth: please direct them to #ubuntu-offtopic first as a warning.
[09:44] <Burgundavia> guardianx3, when at the server dialog, simply choose the ubuntu servers option
[09:44] <logical_mark> But the move from windows to linux us harder for me to wrap my mind around you know
[09:44] <cafuego_> Madpilot: he used "socialist" as if it was a dirty word
[09:44] <barkley> let's be honest
[09:44] <Amaranth> crimsun: your turn, i'm grouchy
[09:44] <barkley> the FSF is a political organization
[09:44] <barkley> and does not represent open source
[09:45] <Burgundavia> barkley, yes it is, but it is a not a socialist one
[09:45] <Amaranth> crimsun: and this channel pisses me off more every day, so yeah, i'll sleep now
[09:45] <Madpilot> cafuego: some people do. I think they're idiots for doing so, but there you go
[09:45] <crimsun> guys, remember #ubuntu-offtopic.
[09:45] <crimsun> you're welcome to discuss non-support topics there.
[09:45] <barkley> Burgundavia, let's goto offtopic
[09:45] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, to boil it down, the FSF don't like the term Open source
[09:45] <logical_mark> where is the off topic?
[09:45] <Burgundavia> #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:45] <crimsun> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:46] <barkley> anybody that brings in FSF politics in here needs to be shown that the FSF doesn't represent open source
[09:46] <f_newton> cafuego, if you'd seen the things ive seen you would think it a dirty word
[09:46] <guardianx3> radiodog - do i jus type unbuntu or  /join #ubuntu
[09:46] <logical_mark> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can someone help me to install java ubotu's howto sucks >.<
[09:46] <Burgundavia> logical_mark, assuming you are on x-chat, simply right click on that link and select join
[09:46] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, what is the problem?
[09:46] <cafuego_> ChurcH_of_FoamY: let me justf ix that factoid for you
[09:46] <guardianx3> how do i make nvtv fit the whole tv when i switch  tv mode??
[09:46] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> jre-1_5_0_01-Linux-i586.bin <-----= i got this from suns website
[09:47] <radiodog> guardianx3, type #ubuntu
[09:47] <guardianx3> the whole tv screen
[09:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but the howto that the wiki gives and the link dosen't look right to me
[09:47] <_ray> ok.......i got it so xine is the default....and it works....but when i click on big movies it plays the mp3 file next in the list instead of the movie...if i right click and say open with xine it works fine
[09:47] <_ray> oops
[09:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the versions and the files seem to be diffrent
[09:47] <_ray> sorry guys wrong room
[09:47] <f_newton> lol
[09:47] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, so did you run that file?
[09:47] <radiodog> ChurcH_of_FoamY, chmod +x jre*.bin , ./jre*.bin , follow instructs?
[09:47] <cafuego_> f_newton: all of sweden is evil, eh
[09:47] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i don't even know how >.<
[09:47] <ram_einstein> I want to rename all *.jpg.jpg.jpg to *.jpg
[09:48] <ram_einstein> how do I do it
[09:48] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, no prob I will show you
[09:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[09:48] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, just type this fist: chmod +x jre-1_5_0_01-Linux-i586.bin
[09:48] <guardianx3> how do i make this pc(ubuntu ) see the files share on workgroup called goku ?
[09:48] <f_newton> cafuego, socialism is a lure for selfish lazy men to gain control of poor working stiffs in the end you end up paying more taxes to the state and nothing gets done
[09:48] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, that will make the file executable
[09:49] <guardianx3> the goku network is windows
[09:49] <cafuego_> !tell ChurcH_of_FoamY -about java
[09:49] <f_newton> but that is really off topic
[09:49] <ram_einstein> How to rename all *.jpg.jpg.jpg to *.jpg
[09:49] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, Then type: ./jre-1_5_0_01-Linux-i586.bin
[09:49] <f_newton> I dont want to be dragged into that conversation
[09:49] <raven3x7> is there a way to remove kde after installing it with "install Kubuntu-Desktop". removing that removes almost nothing.
[09:49] <crimsun> ronybeck: do you know about 'java-package' from multiverse? It works with JRE/JDK 1.5.0, too.
[09:50] <ram_einstein> How to rename all *.jpg.jpg.jpg to *.jpg in the same directory? ofcourse not f_newton
[09:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok it says no sutch file or dir
[09:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it's right there on my desktop >.<
[09:50] <ram_einstein> rename .jpg.jpg.jpg .jpg doesn't work
[09:50] <f_newton> what are you on about ram_einstein ?
[09:50] <ilba7r> raven3*7 search for all kde packages by synaptic and remove what you do not want
[09:50] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, you need to be in the directory that you downloaded the jre-1_5_0_01-Linux-i586.bin file to
[09:50] <jtgameover> ram_einstein, you are back
[09:50] <guardianx3> how do i get files off my windows computer who is on a workgroup called (goku)
[09:51] <ronybeck> ChurcH_of_FoamY, crimsun has a better idea though
[09:51] <ram_einstein> I don't want to involve you f_newton
[09:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i was
[09:51] <jtgameover> i think i found a solution, but i gotta find it again
[09:51] <ram_einstein> yes jtgameover
[09:51] <raven3x7> ilba7r, thats reallly not that easy
[09:51] <ram_einstein> please do
[09:51] <ram_einstein> it's very important
[09:51] <crimsun> ram_einstein: for i in *.jpg.jpg.jpg; do mv "$i" "`echo "$i"|sed s/.jpg.jpg.jpg/.jpg/`"; done
[09:51] <f_newton> hey ram_einstein thats plenty fine with me.. I already told you I didnt do that stuff
[09:51] <guardianx3>  how do i get files off my windows computer who is on a workgroup called (goku)
[09:52] <ram_einstein> thanks!!!!!!!!!!1
[09:52] <ram_einstein> thanks so much crimsun
[09:52] <onkarshinde> I am having problem with recording sound with Mic. Can anyone help me?
[09:52] <ilba7r> raven3*7 the problem with apt-get or synaptic they do not remember what packages was dependent on kde that you installed. Thats why i prefer aptitude
[09:52] <crimsun> onkarshinde: what sound chipset? cat /proc/asound/modules
[09:53] <onkarshinde> crimsun: 0 snd_via82xx
[09:53] <crimsun> onkarshinde: have you selected the mic as the input (recording) device using alsamixer?
[09:54] <raven3x7> ilba7r, if i remove kubuntu-desktop with aptitude could that work?
[09:54] <ilba7r> raven3*7 if you installed it by aptitude it will otherwise no
[09:55] <ilba7r> and kde and kubuntu-desktop are just dummy packages to install most kde packages that you need
[09:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cafuego_ your a genius ^_^
[09:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> now that was so absurdly simple you should replace the wikipage with that
[09:56] <raven3x7> hmm i might have. someone told me it had better dependency checking
[09:57] <raven3x7> dawm didint work
[09:57] <onkarshinde> crimsun: I have opened alsamixer in capture mode. But how to enable mic?
[09:57] <crimsun> onkarshinde: press space bar when the mic is active
[09:58] <glick> how come the sound doesnt work when i play enemy territory?
[09:58] <znh> Lag: 2 second.. lol :-D
[09:58] <znh> glick: I know a sollution
[09:58] <linuxboy> Can Ubuntu play 3gp files?
[09:58] <glick> znh, what?
[09:58] <znh> glick: gimme a sec, i'll search it again
[09:58] <onkarshinde> crimsun: Sorry, but i didn't get the meaning of mic is active
[09:58] <glick> thanks
[09:59] <crimsun> onkarshinde: scroll over to the mic selection, and press the space bar.
[09:59] <glick> actually the game only plays when i do esddsp et
[09:59] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> crimsun:  did you give me that neat howto for java?
[09:59] <onkarshinde> crimsun: It doesn't make a difference.
[09:59] <glick> but when i just to et, it changes the resolution of the screen and there is a black screen and thats it
[09:59] <znh> glick: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22546.html
[09:59] <znh> glick: oh you are using gnome?
[09:59] <crimsun> glick: that's because (1) your sound card only supports one sound at a time, and (2) esd is hogging that sound device.
[10:00] <glick> znh, yes
[10:00] <znh> glick: disable gnomes sound server at System->Sound
[10:00] <glick> ah
[10:00] <znh> ubotu: gnome is terrible
[10:00] <ubotu> okay, znh
[10:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hey look at that it workes ^_^ YAY
[10:00] <znh> :-P
[10:00] <znh> !gnome
[10:00] <ubotu> gnome is, like, terrible
[10:00] <crimsun> glick: you either have to (1) use esddsp et, or (2) stop esd by using esdctl or by pkill esd or System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck Enable Sound server startup
[10:00] <glick> znh, disable the sound server then restart gnome?
[10:00] <znh> glick: not needed :-)
[10:00] <arbir> how do i install the latest ogg vorbis encoder ?
[10:01] <crimsun> arbir: install 'vorbis-tools'
[10:01] <arbir> crimsun: it install 1.0.1 not the latest 1.1.1
[10:01] <crimsun> arbir: Hoary doesn't have 1.1.1.
[10:01] <arbir> i have backports @ crimsun
[10:01] <arbir> crimsun: so tell me of a way to install 1.1.1
[10:02] <crimsun> arbir: then backports doesn't have 1.1.1. Caveat: I don't use backports.
[10:02] <crimsun> arbir: grab the deb-src from Breezy and compile it.
[10:02] <arbir> i also need lame @ crimson
[10:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can Linux download podcasts?
[10:02] <crimsun> arbir: then look at debian-marillat
[10:02] <arbir> where can i get the source from ?
[10:02] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> for my ipod
[10:02] <znh> !cedaga
[10:02] <ubotu> znh: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:02] <crimsun> arbir: from pool.
[10:02] <znh> !cedega
[10:02] <ubotu> it has been said that cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[10:03] <crimsun> arbir: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[10:03] <znh> !wine
[10:03] <arbir> let me take a look crimsun
[10:03] <crimsun> ChurcH_of_FoamY: no idea. Was this 'java-package'?
[10:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'll show you
[10:03] <onkarshinde> crimsun: I did as you say. Still sound can't be recorded.
[10:03] <crimsun> onkarshinde: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:04] <onkarshinde> Ok
[10:04] <arbir> can i not use breezy as my repository and just get the vorbis?
[10:04] <salutis> hello all
[10:04] <crimsun> ChurcH_of_FoamY: no, I didn't, though I mentioned 'java-package' to someone.
[10:04] <arbir> helo salutis
[10:05] <crimsun> arbir: no, you can't.
[10:05] <arbir> uh oh :-(
[10:05] <crimsun> arbir: Breezy has newer dependencies that Hoary cannot satisfy.
[10:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[10:05] <ballatition> hello all
[10:05] <salutis> ballatition: hi
[10:05] <arbir> hmmm
[10:05] <arbir> and how do i get Lame ?
[10:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so can Ubuntu use podcasts i use gktpod and it works fine but i don't know if it can use podcasts
[10:06] <ballatition> I am kinda new to linux and need some help
[10:06] <hyphenated> arbir: you copy the dorkiest kid you know. then you'll get lame
[10:06] <crimsun> arbir: it should be in multiverse.
[10:06] <hyphenated> (alternatively, try apt-get install lame)
[10:07] <crimsun> !info lame
[10:07] <ubotu> lame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB
[10:07] <onkarshinde> crimsun: If I select Alsa for source in Multimedia Systems Selector and try to test then it gives me some test pipeline error..
[10:07] <arbir> apt-get -s install lame
[10:07] <arbir> Reading package lists... Done
[10:07] <arbir> Building dependency tree... Done