[03:14] <tritium> Chazman, that's not appropriate here
[03:14] <misfit_toy> Carpe_Libertatem, what are you trying to accomplish?
[03:14] <Chazman> k
[03:15] <dooglus> robertj: yes.
[03:15] <misfit_toy> Carpe_Libertatem, if you want a box with a ton of ports open then just install XP
[03:15] <Carpe_Libertatem> misfit_toy: I want to see what outgoing ports are open on a certain machine as a security test.
[03:15] <robertj> dooglus: hrmm
[03:15] <dooglus> robertj: although: $ apt-file search 686/kernel/fs/fuse/fuse.ko linux-image-2.6.12-8-686: lib/modules/2.6.12-8-686/kernel/fs/fuse/fuse.ko
[03:15] <thoreauputic> Carpe_Libertatem: unless a service is running, the port won't be relevant or "open"
[03:15] <misfit_toy> Carpe_Libertatem, you don't understand... ingoing/outgoing....
[03:15] <dooglus> robertj: that makes it look like it's not in the most recent kernel...
[03:15] <dooglus> (2.6.12-9)
[03:16] <thoreauputic> Carpe_Libertatem: I think as others have said, you are confused
[03:16] <Carpe_Libertatem> misfit_toy: What do you call it, then, if I want to see if someone can use port 5198 to login to a remote AIM server?
[03:16] <joetheodd> Hey, who runs the bot?
[03:16] <tristanmike> the bot runs the bot
[03:16] <Chazman> Oh I love what google has become.  Same story with everything...
[03:17] <Burandiro> hi
[03:17] <Chazman> Howdy
[03:17] <misfit_toy> Carpe_Libertatem, "someone" on "what" running what OS, with what permissions, etc...
[03:17] <tristanmike> or a little elf shoved in a drawer somewhere typing responses for everyone 24-7, no actually it's a staff of elves
[03:17] <tritium> joetheodd, cafuego
[03:17] <test34-> Chazman, I get some revelant results
[03:17] <joetheodd> cafuego, are you there?
[03:17] <Chazman> Firestarter
[03:17] <pax> Vint Cerf works at google now, forget 'the search engine' Chazman
[03:17] <Chazman> Lovely name
[03:17] <Carpe_Libertatem> misfit_toy: It's the firewall that is SUPPOSED to be blocking it. I want to VERIFY :-P
[03:18] <vader1102> Chazman, have you tried "linux firewall"
[03:18] <Chazman> Vint Cerf....oooook
[03:18] <Chazman> that's exactly what I typed it
[03:18] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i find the device name for my digital camera?
[03:18] <joetheodd> If it wouldn't be too much trouble, someone might want to add http://www.javaop.com/uploads/guest/winecvs.html to the bot under wine.
[03:18] <misfit_toy> Carpe_Libertatem, then try to telnet to that port on the AIM server
[03:18] <afaik> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ballmer
[03:18] <Carpe_Libertatem> misfit_toy: It's not that one port.
[03:18] <Burandiro> Como vai
[03:18] <Chazman> I found one called Firestarter that looks to be worth a try
[03:18] <vader1102> I got some decent returns
[03:19] <misfit_toy> Carpe_Libertatem, please read up on basic networking.
[03:19] <tritium> probably not, joetheodd
[03:19] <Burandiro> how are you
[03:20] <Carpe_Libertatem> misfit_toy: Thanks a lot. :-P
[03:20] <Burandiro><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:20] <Chazman>  We strongly believe that your job is to make the high level security policy decisions and ours is to take care of the underlying details. This is a departure from your typical Linux firewall, which has traditionally required arcane implementation specific knowledge
[03:20] <Chazman> <3
[03:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> hotmail!?
[03:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> can someone tell me how to find out what the device name is for an item that i can see in lsusb?
[03:21] <Chazman> Hey! Don't dis hotmail. It's an excellent spam dump =P
[03:21] <Chazman> However, I use Yahoo for that
[03:21] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: google for the device ID
[03:21] <misfit_toy> Carpe_Libertatem, I'm not trying to blow you off, but you really don't seem to understand how things work and it would take all night to figure out what in the world you're doing.
[03:22] <Carpe_Libertatem> misfit_toy: What do you think I do not understand? Would my idea of pinging a range of ports on a machine with open ports not work?
[03:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB bizarre.
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: no, not even remotely bizarre
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> Carpe_Libertatem: ping is icmp and doesn't use ports
[03:22] <Chazman> Off I go to accidently crash the system
[03:22] <misfit_toy> Carpe_Libertatem, pinging ports?
[03:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB your telling me that i can plug a device in, and it can be assigned a node, but there's no way to see which nodes are assigned to which devices on my system?
[03:22] <HrdwrBoB> Carpe_Libertatem: and if you are testing a specific range, then yes
[03:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB that's bizarre.
[03:23] <Carpe_Libertatem> misfit_toy: yes, say, nmap -p range mycomputerip
[03:23] <thoreauputic> Carpe_Libertatem: perhaps the problem is the way you ask questions - it isn't clear what you mean
[03:23] <dooglus> Carpe_Libertatem: you can use whatever outgoing ports you like.
[03:23] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: oooh, the device file in /dev
[03:23] <rob_p> misfit_toy:  I think he wants to test the egress filtering of his firewall to make sure it's doing it's job.  At least that's what I gather.
[03:23] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: not the actual device name
[03:23] <dooglus> Carpe_Libertatem: it's incoming ports that are the security risk
[03:23] <Burandiro> tem algum Brasileiro
[03:23] <HrdwrBoB> Carpe_Libertatem: outgoing port filtering is mostly annoying and pointless
[03:23] <dooglus> Carpe_Libertatem: you don't ping ports...
[03:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB yeah, that's what i mean.
[03:24] <rob_p> BurgerMann:  Vc pode encontrar Brasileiros em #ubuntu-br eu acho...
[03:24] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04a9:30f9 Canon, Inc.
[03:24] <Carpe_Libertatem> dooglus: Scan? :-P
[03:24] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: look in dmesg
[03:24] <dooglus> Carpe_Libertatem: you can scan ports, yeah
[03:25] <dooglus> Carpe_Libertatem: port scanning tells you which ports a box is listening on
[03:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB i did look in dmesg.
[03:25] <dooglus> Carpe_Libertatem: you probably don't want your box to be listening on any ports, generally, unless it's acting as a server
[03:25] <chris__> hi everbody...
[03:25] <dooglus> hi chris__
[03:25] <rob_p> BurgerMann:  Ignore me... the user that was intended for abruptly left before I could hit enter!
[03:25] <Carpe_Libertatem> dooglus: I know, but I want to see which ports I can access from a machine with filitered outgoing ports.
[03:26] <Carpe_Libertatem> I'd just run it on a live CD.
[03:26] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: if you have a standard ubuntu system it should automatically load and mount
[03:26] <Carpe_Libertatem> So my system wouldn't get messed-up.
[03:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[03:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> i havy hoary.
[03:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> where would it load an mount?
[03:26] <thoreauputic> chris__: if you know debian, you won't have any trouble with Ubuntu
[03:26] <chris__> i read that the w32codecs are actually not available from the hoary-extras sources
[03:26] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: it would mount under /media
[03:26] <oli> I jsut re-installed ubuntu hoary, and i have some passwords/account problem , at first login screen after install, it seemed like my  username did not exist, i went in consol to check it, indeed it wasnt here, ltough i created it at the install...    i then Re-created it, so i can logon as user, but once in gnome i cannot sudo anything it says :  'username' is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[03:26] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: the device is most likely /dev/sda1
[03:26] <thoreauputic> chris__: correct - they were pulled for legal reasons
[03:27] <dooglus> Carpe_Libertatem: you don't get to specify which outgoing port gets used.  if you want to connect to port 80 on a remote machine (the http port), it doesn't use port 80 on your box to make the connection
[03:27] <chris__> okay... i also read i should ask here for some "links" ;)
[03:27] <oli> herlpp
[03:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob: /dev/s* = scd0     sg0      shm/     snd/     sndstat  sr0      stderr   stdin    stdout
[03:27] <esac> slightly offtopic. anybody know of a setting anywhere where if i have firefox open and i go to open firefox again, it just pops up the already running instance ?
[03:27] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: then it doesn't
[03:28] <thoreauputic> !tell chris__ about w32codecs
[03:28] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: what is it
[03:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> a canon digital camera.
[03:28] <dooglus> !tell me about w32codecs too
[03:28] <Falstius> how about playing realmedia files (with AMD64)?
[03:28] <dooglus> !tell me about w32codecs
[03:28] <oli> I really need help here
[03:28] <tristanmike> !tell tristanmike about w32codes
[03:29] <tristanmike> !tell tristanmike about w32codecs
[03:29] <renjii> isnt that clearly explained at www.ubuntuguide.org ?
[03:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB i'm sad.
[03:29] <tristanmike> thoreauputic, thank you ;)
[03:29] <thoreauputic> BTW /msg ubotu <foo> works
[03:29] <chris__> is it? I'll have a look
[03:29] <esac> guys, please /msg ubotu w32codecs    ... or any other keyword
[03:29] <Falstius> oli, edit the sudoers file .. did you set a root password or is there another account?
[03:29] <renjii> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[03:29] <tristanmike> !tell renjii about ubuntuguide
[03:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB do you have any other advice?
[03:30] <chris__> that info is out of date i fear
[03:30] <thoreauputic> renjii: please don't recommend ubuntuguide any more - it's out of date nad we have to deal with the consequences
[03:30] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: paste the dmesg output onto pastebin
[03:30] <renjii> thoreauputic - my mistake.
[03:30] <oli> Falstius i have a root password, and a user account created in the consol at startup...  when i try to sudo it just dont work as i said, i dont know why, its a fresh install, shouldnt be bugs in here
[03:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB how about #flood
[03:30] <tristanmike> Like WTF is my firefox broken???
[03:31] <HrdwrBoB> how about pastebin
[03:31] <d2dchat> how do i get photoshop to run on linux?
[03:31] <d2dchat> off of my windows hd?
[03:31] <thoreauputic> chris__: the info the bot gave you? Should be OK I think
[03:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB here it is: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 <newine> usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 4
[03:31] <HrdwrBoB> d2dchat: you don't, in general
[03:31] <Falstius> oli, vi /etc/sudoers and add your name there (you can copy the line for root and just replace root with your name)
[03:31] <dooglus> oli: can you log in as root from a vc?
[03:31] <d2dchat> HrdwrBoB, haha, i heard you could
[03:31] <sproingie> d2dchat: direct off your windows hd?  not going to happen.  you can install it under wine
[03:31] <d2dchat> sproingie, I have an illegal copy, do you think i could run the iso on linux and install it?
[03:31] <d2dchat> lol
[03:31] <HrdwrBoB> d2dchat: you probably can, but in most cases The GIMP will suffice
[03:32] <d2dchat> HrdwrBoB, I dont like the gimp
[03:32] <chris__> thoreauputic: mh i guessed that !tell is some kind of command, but i didn't get a bot message about w32codecs
[03:32] <HrdwrBoB> d2dchat: why
[03:32] <sproingie> d2dchat: i imagine your warezed copy will do fine on linux as well
[03:32] <d2dchat> HrdwrBoB, not familiar with it
[03:32] <thoreauputic> chris__: should be in your pm /msg window
[03:32] <HrdwrBoB> so you dismiss it offhand?
[03:32] <d2dchat> HrdwrBoB, Ive spent  housr on it and cant do what i can do in ps
[03:32] <chris__> !tell chris__ about w32codecs
[03:33] <d2dchat> HrdwrBoB, no, i honestly tried for a long time lol
[03:33] <HrdwrBoB> heh
[03:33] <d2dchat> HrdwrBoB, I can just do a lot more with PS
[03:33] <oli> Dooglus when i Sudo -s  after the password it keeps saying 'username'  is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[03:33] <HrdwrBoB> d2dchat: did you pay for PS?
[03:33] <d2dchat> HrdwrBoB, I really wanted to use GIMP as a replacement
[03:33] <chris__> ok lets find that windows in "x-chat" (first time i use that)
[03:33] <dooglus> oli: try logging in as root from a vc.
[03:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB did those two lines tell you anything?
[03:33] <sproingie> HrdwrBoB: he just said he warezed it
[03:33] <dooglus> virtual console
[03:33] <d2dchat> HrdwrBoB, read my convo with sproingie ;)
[03:33] <chris__> got it
[03:33] <HrdwrBoB> spo0nman: ah
[03:33] <oli> what do you mean by 'vc'
[03:33] <dooglus> virtual console
[03:33] <HrdwrBoB> d2dchat: then you don't get help with it :)
[03:33] <d2dchat> HrdwrBoB, hehehe
[03:34] <Falstius> I didn't pay for ubuntu ;)
[03:34] <oli> and Falstiux , i cannot edit it, its refused
[03:34] <HrdwrBoB> it's not fair to compare a very expensive product you (effectively) stole
[03:34] <dooglus> hold control and alt and press F1.  do alt-f7 to get back to GNOME
[03:34] <d2dchat> Falstius, Indeed!:)
[03:34] <HrdwrBoB> and a freely available product you have and can use legitimately
[03:34] <oli> dooglus, yes from there i can log on as rot
[03:34] <d2dchat> HrdwrBoB, I really wanted GIMP to be a replacement for Photoshop, but at the moment its not
[03:34] <oli> root
[03:34] <Falstius> oli, it is write protected.  In vi you would save it with :wq!
[03:34] <misfit_toy> ubuntu is free??? damn, that guy on the corner said I was getting a good deal at half XP prices
[03:34] <HrdwrBoB> d2dchat: in some ways it is and in some ways it isn't
[03:34] <dooglus> oli: as your user, in a terminal, type "groups".  what do you see?
[03:34] <tristanmike> misfit_toy, lol
[03:34] <HrdwrBoB> misfit_toy: yes, and I've made a MINT
[03:35] <sproingie> HrdwrBoB: software-wise, it's a reasonable comparison.  i just don't find gimp very stable, but i run it on win32
[03:35] <Falstius> in other programs .. chmod +w /etc/sudoers
[03:35] <oli> dooglus , juste my username
[03:35] <Falstius> then chmod -w when finished.
[03:35] <d2dchat> HrdwrBoB, When it is, I can be legal;)
[03:35] <misfit_toy> *gimme my money back* oh wait, I like it enough to pay anyway
[03:35] <dooglus> oli, so in a VC, as root, run "adduser oli adm"
[03:35] <dooglus> and "adduser oli admin"
[03:35] <HrdwrBoB> sproingie: yeah I don't bother with win32 for applications, but it fits the bill in linux
[03:35] <dooglus> to add yourself to the admin groups
[03:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB ??
[03:36] <sproingie> HrdwrBoB: i know little enough about graphics production that i'm equally lost in gimp and ps
[03:36] <d2dchat> HrdwrBoB, PS is the only program I would consider running from windows to linux
[03:36] <misfit_toy> sproingie, if you are used to photoshop you might like 'gimp-shop', its a plugin that changes all the gimp menus to match photoshop
[03:36] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: that shows you connected it and disconnected it
[03:36] <d2dchat> misfit_toy, does it also change the layer modifications?
[03:36] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: that's all
[03:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB that's all that's in dmesg about it.
[03:36] <d2dchat> misfit_toy, I like how photoshop lets you modify each layer's attributs
[03:36] <misfit_toy> d2dchat, just the menus as far as I know
[03:37] <d2dchat> misfit_toy, bummer:(
[03:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> doh!
[03:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 40x/40x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[03:37] <misfit_toy> d2dchat, give it a shot and tell us ;)
[03:37] <d2dchat> haha ok, hold on
[03:37] <misfit_toy> dammit that WhiteRabbit has followed me here!
[03:37] <misfit_toy> heheh
[03:37] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: paste the whole of dmesg and I will tell you
[03:37] <WhiteRabbit> I was here first!
[03:37] <WhiteRabbit> lol
[03:37] <misfit_toy> absinth
[03:37] <sdali> rob_p, crimsun: Firestarter had configured the firewall for me. Thanks again for the help.
[03:37] <WhiteRabbit> hey now hey hey
[03:37] <misfit_toy> sheesh
[03:38] <misfit_toy> lol
[03:38] <WhiteRabbit> give it back
[03:38] <misfit_toy> gimme that cigar
[03:38] <WhiteRabbit> trade you a cigar for that sexy bottle of green
[03:38] <misfit_toy> truce/trade
[03:38] <rob_p> sdali:  Cool!  Glad you figured it out!
[03:38] <_jason> If I want to setup SSH on ubuntu should I setup the firewall?
[03:38] <misfit_toy> WhiteRabbit, so you be's running ubuntu now?
[03:38] <Entranced> hey all... I'm running breezy and I wanted to get web clips/moves to play in firefox.. I have installed mplayer and the plugin for mozilla as well.. the thing is where are the w32codecs ?
[03:38] <WhiteRabbit> _jason, na just give out public access!
[03:39] <d2dchat> misfit_toy, cant find gimp-shop
[03:39] <_jason> WhiteRabbit:  lol...
[03:39] <d2dchat> misfit_toy, in spm
[03:39] <_jason> WhiteRabbit:  won't the password be enough?
[03:39] <_jason> !tell Entranced about restricted
[03:39] <xuniluser> i have a problem with acroread. have you guys experienced it also. i thinks there's an error in the .deb
[03:39] <rob_p> _jason:  probably not necessary since you'll just be turning around and opening that port.  The exception would be if you want to limit incoming connections to a particular IP address or range, etc.
[03:39] <misfit_toy> d2dchat, yeah you'll have to install it http://freshmeat.net/projects/gimpshop/
[03:40] <_jason> rob_p:  I see, thanks
[03:40] <misfit_toy> http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241
[03:40] <Entranced> thnx _jason
[03:40] <navyn> is there a kubuntu room?
[03:40] <WhiteRabbit> _jason, also setup Protocol 2 & PermitRootLogin no & StrictModes yes & PasswordAuthentication yes & PermitEmptyPasswords no & X11Forwarding no If no freenx :( & PrintMotd no
[03:40] <thoreauputic> navyn: yup
[03:40] <thoreauputic> navyn: /join #kubuntu
[03:40] <WhiteRabbit> _jason, it's upto who you're protecting your box from
[03:40] <navyn> thanks!
[03:40] <WhiteRabbit> misfit_toy, I broke off a nibble to chew on
[03:40] <WhiteRabbit> yummy
[03:41] <_jason> WhiteRabbit:  yeah, I guess it's better to setup the firewall... it won't hurt any
[03:41] <misfit_toy> oh great
[03:41] <misfit_toy> ;p
[03:41] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB http://pastebin.com/375275 <-- thank you.
[03:41] <misfit_toy> biab, after cutting the end of this stogie
[03:42] <navyn> nobody is talking in that room
[03:42] <d2dchat> misfit_toy, which shoul di get? rpm or tar?
[03:42] <jorgp3> anyone else getting unsolved symbols issue with 2.6.12-9 breezy kernel when trying to load madwifi driver?
[03:43] <oli> dooglus, i did adduser oli adm, but   for adduser oli admin, its saying that the 'admin' group does not exist
[03:43] <navyn> can anyone in this room, help me with a kubuntu issue, or is this just for ubuntu?
[03:43] <Bicchi> What is the difference from booting into: "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic Default"    and    "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic"
[03:43] <thoreauputic> navyn: just state the problem clearly - if someone can help they will
[03:44] <oli> i cannot login as root from Gnome, please help :|
[03:45] <navyn> whenever i log into kde, i get an error saying Cannot start process, cannot talk to klauncher
[03:45] <bimberi> oli: do you need to?  use sudo for superuser access
[03:45] <thoreauputic> oli: are you running hoary? ( 5.04)
[03:45] <navyn> nobody in kubuntu is talking
[03:45] <thoreauputic> navyn: you haven't waited long :)
[03:45] <oli> yes ; hoary, and i mean by that that SUDO doesnt work
[03:45] <brad[] > navyn: Go ahead and ask here - what's the issue you're having?
[03:45] <navyn> no i mean no one is talking at all in the whole room
[03:46] <navyn> whenever i log into kde, i get an error saying Cannot start process, cannot talk to klauncher
[03:46] <thoreauputic> navyn: as I said , you only waited a few minutes
[03:46] <bimberi> oli: ignore me, just scrolled back and read up :)
[03:46] <oli> bimberi ???
[03:46] <navyn> usually someone is at least saying something.
[03:46] <oli> didnt see nothing from u beside using sudo, wich wont work (hence my problem)
[03:46] <thoreauputic> navyn: *sigh* patience grasshopper
[03:47] <SpaceBass> are there any other decent exchange clients besides evoloution?
[03:47] <tag> what's the name of that kernel module that lets you load windows wnet drivers?
[03:47] <tambaqui> :)
[03:47] <brad[] > SpaceBass: No
[03:47] <SpaceBass> damn
[03:47] <SpaceBass> thats my killer app...
[03:48] <SpaceBass> that and itunes, which looks like it might run under codewevers
[03:48] <brad[] > SpaceBass: Mine too ;) It working for you?
[03:48] <delltony> hi question my aunt i set up ppp for her on hoary a while back and for the life of me i forgot how i did it and well needless to say she gets no dialtone anyone have any knowledge of the "grannynet" dialup and maybe know what command to type for i have forgotten :( i thought it was pppconfig to configure it and like ppd to dial or something to that effect
[03:48] <macintoshr> how do i make an lss file for a boot graphic?
[03:48] <bimberi> oli: i meant i wasn't up to date with your issues because i'd been away from my irc client for a while - so ignore that reply
[03:48] <SpaceBass> brad[] :  :) just cannot fiind anything better than outlook, despite its faults...
[03:48] <oli> ok
[03:48] <thoreauputic> delltony:  sudo pppconfig to configure - pon/poff for connections
[03:49] <brad[] > SpaceBass: Yeah Outlook is quite nice. I'm looking forward to crossover office 5 which will be able to run the latest version of it, although Evolution is improving version by version
[03:49] <SpaceBass> brad[] : been trying a new distro a day and so far liking ubutnu... but I havent tried the codewevers thing on it yet... it did work on fedora core 4 though
[03:49] <oli> i Still need help : i need to be able to logon in SUDO ... :| please
[03:49] <delltony> ok so its pon <bellsouth> or whatever right?
[03:49] <rob_p> tag:  could it be ndiswrapper?
[03:50] <thoreauputic> delltony: make sure th euser is in the dip and dialout groups
[03:50] <SpaceBass> yeah, crossover office 5 might be the key for me... evoloution is an admirable effort and similar to entourage on os x... but still not 100% there
[03:50] <brad[] > SpaceBass: Let me know if you get Evo+Exchange working in Ubuntu, I had some trouble with it
[03:50] <oli> or else i'll just reinstall it and hopes it wont do that 2 times..
[03:50] <bimberi> oli: do you have root access?
[03:50] <delltony> yeah it should have already been setup her power went out and she restarted and got this issue
[03:50] <dooglus> oli: this is solvable...  just a second...
[03:50] <oli> bimberi, only in Vc
[03:50] <thoreauputic> delltony: if you defined the provider, yes
[03:50] <SpaceBass> brad[] : I got it to check and send mail no problem... no calenders or contacts thought
[03:50] <bimberi> oli: Vc?
[03:50] <delltony> i was thinking some kinda module needed to be probed cause its a winmodem
[03:50] <dooglus> oli: as root, look at /etc/sudoers
[03:50] <oli> 'consol terminal'
[03:50] <bimberi> ah
[03:50] <brad[] > SpaceBass: Hrm
[03:50] <oli> ok
[03:51] <SpaceBass> brad[] :  what problems were you having?
[03:51] <thoreauputic> delltony: ah a winmodem :((
[03:51] <dooglus> oli: don't you see something like this at the end:
[03:51] <dooglus> # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[03:51] <dooglus> %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:51] <dooglus> ?
[03:51] <SpudDogg> anyone know the package i need to install to play mp3s?
[03:51] <brad[] > SpaceBass: If I configure it through the Exchange connector it just locks up Evolution
[03:51] <delltony> yeah i got hosed all around on that but she needed a pc and i just set it up with hoary and said be done with it :)
[03:51] <SpaceBass> my new challenge is joining my active directory domain... and then getting nautlius to work with kerberos
[03:51] <foampeace> is there some kind of impulse tracker in the repositories?
[03:51] <thoreauputic> !tell SpudDogg about mp3
[03:51] <SpaceBass> brad[] :  odd... using an ssl cert with your exchange server? IE https?
[03:52] <delltony> i'm guessing i need to run dmesg or whatever on it and see what the modem is
[03:52] <FhaeTon> amazing I have this great machines and no brains to get the install working
[03:52] <delltony> and them modprobe it if needed
[03:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB did that dmesg help?
[03:52] <oli> dooglus when i try to access etc/sudoers  i have a 'permission denied' even as root
[03:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone in here ever get a canon digital camera working in ubuntu?
[03:52] <delltony> i thought i had set it up to do all that but i guess not :( anyway thats for the pon poff ill give it a shot
[03:52] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: ok looking now
[03:52] <dooglus> oli, no, really?  root doesn't get 'permission denied'!
[03:52] <thoreauputic> delltony: http://linmodems.org and get the script and pray a lot to $DEITY
[03:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB thanks dude.
[03:52] <dooglus> oli: you sure you're root?
[03:52] <delltony> haha
[03:52] <brad[] > SpaceBass: Using SSL yes
[03:53] <bimberi> oli: what about the "visudo" command (as root)
[03:53] <SpaceBass> brad[] :  self signed cert?
[03:53] <Falstius> sudoers doesn't have write set for anyone, even root
[03:53] <brad[] > SpaceBass: I narrowed it down to GAL issues; using a newer version of the connector it's working great
[03:53] <oli> yeap i'm sure, double checked.
[03:53] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: is there something wrong with your hotplug?
[03:53] <SpaceBass> brad[] :  oh, thats good then....
[03:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB uh...i dunno.  how would i check?
[03:53] <delltony> yeah i have been using kpp for the longest and it worked fine i honestly think it didn't initialize or something
[03:53] <dooglus> Falstius: firstly, he's trying to read it, and secondly, root doesn't need write permission to write to files
[03:53] <brad[] > SpaceBass: Unfortunately I can't upgrade the connector in Ubuntu without great pains :(
[03:53] <delltony> and being i'm not at her house its hard to say whats wrong with it
[03:54] <SpaceBass> brad[] :  tried synaptic or apt-get?
[03:54] <oli> bimberi ; visudo does open something
[03:54] <SpaceBass> thats how I did it with 5.4 today
[03:54] <delltony> anyway thank
[03:54] <brad[] > SpaceBass: What version did it pull in?
[03:54] <HrdwrBoB> BROKEN_LADDER: try loading usb-storage and sd_mod  modules
[03:54] <SpudDogg> thoreauputic, there was 1 package I had to install before...do you happen to know what it is?
[03:54] <SpaceBass> id have to check and I'm booted into xp on that box now... but it said it was the latest
[03:54] <dooglus> oli: you're looking for the line which begins with a '%'
[03:54] <brad[] > oh hrmm ok
[03:54] <SpaceBass> using ubuntu repositiories
[03:55] <SpaceBass> speaking of apt-get will a distro-upgrade take 5.4 to 5.10?
[03:55] <thoreauputic> SpudDogg: to play mp3 in music player (rhtyhmbox) - install gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:55] <sproingie> what was 5.4?  warty?
[03:55] <dooglus> SpaceBass: yes.
[03:55] <SpudDogg> ahh...thanks
[03:55] <oli> I dont have any line starting with %
[03:55] <SpaceBass> sproingie: great, thanks!
[03:55] <bimberi> oli: is yours a hoary install or an upgrade from warty?
[03:55] <sproingie> SpaceBass: thank dooglus
[03:55] <bimberi> sproingie: 5.04 is hoary
[03:55] <oli> install from a fresh printed cd..
[03:55] <SpaceBass> anyone joined ubuntu to a active directory domain?
[03:55] <dooglus> oli: which CD?
[03:56] <bimberi> oli: k
[03:56] <SpaceBass> oops... thanksed the wrong person... thanks dooglus
[03:56] <sproingie> bimberi: ah.  funny thing about debian and ubuntu both, i never even think of version numbers
[03:56] <bimberi> sproingie: you too :)
[03:56] <dooglus> SpaceBass: all you need to do is edit /etc/apt/sources.list, replace 'hoary' with 'breezy' and do a dist-upgrade
[03:56] <lgc> Hello all from Mexico! Will anyone direct me to the Breezy Install Page? (I got the ISO images. Now what?)
[03:57] <fadumpt> load the disc into your system and go at it :)
[03:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB okay i looaded those modules successfully.
[03:57] <sproingie> lgc: burn the image, stick the cd in your drive, reboot
[03:57] <oli> i just re-installed it, because the breezy preview ***ed all my things , but now i need to retweak my linux...and its kinda hard without sudo (..)
[03:57] <lgc> Thanks, fadumpt and sproingie , but nothing happens that way!
[03:57] <fadumpt> set your mobo bios
[03:57] <dooglus> oli: so in the VC, run "visudo" and stick a new line at the end, saying:
[03:58] <fadumpt> press Del or F1 at boot up
[03:58] <lgc> How is that?
[03:58] <fadumpt> get into your BIOS and set it to boot from CDROM first, then hard drive
[03:58] <sproingie> lgc: if you stick the cd in the drive and show the contents, how many files are on it?
[03:58] <dooglus> oli:    %adm ALL=(ALL) ALL
[03:58] <thoreauputic> lgc: did you burn the ISO as an image?
[03:58] <dooglus> oli: that means "let everyone in the 'adm' group do anything"
[03:58] <thoreauputic> sproingie: great minds ;)
[03:58] <lgc> sproingie, it has somewhere around 1700 files.
[03:58] <sproingie> thoreauputic: just the most frequent burn problem i think
[03:59] <oli> i have  'root ALL=(ALL) ALL' at the end for now
[03:59] <thoreauputic> sproingie: yes
[03:59] <fadumpt> lgc, you probably have to tell it to boot from CDROM first
[03:59] <lgc> sproingie, the BIOS is set up to boot from CD.
[03:59] <dooglus> oli: that means root's allowed to run sudo...  not too helpful.
[03:59] <fadumpt> it's probably bypassing your cdrom and booting from your hard drive
[03:59] <sproingie> thoreauputic: i think cd burning programs should detect when you're burning a single .iso as a data project and pop up a big warning asking if that's what you *really* want
[03:59] <fadumpt> oh
[03:59] <dooglus> oli: add the line I told you too
[03:59] <oli> ok
[03:59] <sproingie> lgc: and it doesn't boot?  did you verify the burn?
[03:59] <scanwinder> what processes need to be loaded for OSS(open sound system) to work?
[03:59] <thoreauputic> sproingie: it is mostly a Windows problem afaics
[04:00] <lgc> How can I the verify the burn, sproingie?
[04:00] <oli> trivial question : but how do i save and quit ? (in visudo)
[04:00] <dooglus> oli: it's written at the bottom of the screen
[04:00] <dooglus> ^O is write, ^X is exit
[04:01] <dooglus> ^ is control...
[04:01] <sproingie> lgc: md5sum verification should be a feature of the burning program.  if it's not apparent, it might not support it
[04:01] <thoreauputic> oli: ctrl-x , say yes
[04:02] <lgc> I made the burn with the program included with Hoary.
[04:02] <sproingie> lgc: most good burning programs will show the sum when you stick the disc in.  just compare that against the one that's on the CD.  if they don't match, you burnt a coaster
[04:02] <hondje> anyone running breezy want to test something for me
[04:02] <Entranced> Any ideas why the movie clips start playing and then stop very shortly after ?
[04:02] <Entranced> in Firefox
[04:02] <dooglus> oli: incidentally, you can use "su" to become root in a terminal window, since you have a root password...
[04:02] <oli> ok... seems to work, though when i sudo -s in terminal under my username, it switch to root without asking for password
[04:03] <pschulz01> I'm looking to mount USB drive under Hoary. It doesn't com up automatically.
[04:03] <sproingie> oli: if you did a sudo recently it won't ask again for a while
[04:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> HrdwrBoB after loading those modules, what should i do?
[04:03] <dooglus> oli: it remembers your password for <some> minutes
[04:03] <oli> ok..
[04:03] <oli> never saw that in my last install... nyway
[04:03] <oli> thankx a lot..
[04:03] <afaik> I have a lot of processes of /usr/lib/gconf2/gconfd-2 14 running
[04:03] <afaik> wtf is it?
[04:03] <dooglus> no problem.  lucky you set a root password, eh?
[04:03] <afaik> can I kill it?
[04:04] <hondje> in gcalctool, can someone tell me what it returns for 7.25x10^-11 / 1x10^5 ?
[04:04] <pschulz01> messages in /var/log/messages show that  it's been detected.
[04:04] <shane24> how do I kill the X server so I can install Nvidia drivers?
[04:04] <hondje> I get the wrong answer, but want a confirmation before I file a bug in breezy
[04:04] <dooglus> shane24: you don't need to.
[04:04] <afaik> shane24, ps ax |grep X
[04:04] <afaik> kill the process
[04:04] <sproingie> hondje: what answer do you get?
[04:04] <afaik> nice it as they say
[04:04] <vladuz976> can i just update to breezy by changing all "hoary" in sourcel.list to "breezy"? what about the backports entry?
[04:04] <hondje> 7.25x10^-6
[04:04] <shane24> dooglus, why do I not need to?
[04:05] <dooglus> shane24: apparently you just install the drivers and restart X
[04:05] <hondje> when it's clearly 10^-16
[04:05] <thoreauputic> !tell shane24 about nvidia
[04:05] <oli> dooglus, indeed, even more that my main username wasnt there existing when i tried to loggon the first time, gotta love IRSSI for help.
[04:05] <lgc> sproingie, pardon my candidness, but is there a command you  know to verify the md5 sum from the disk?
[04:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone know how to get a digital camera to be mounted in ubuntu?
[04:05] <bimberi> vladuz976: there aren't any breezy backports afaik, comment the line out for now
[04:05] <sproingie> hondje: did you parenthesize 1x10^5?
[04:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> i don't know what /dev/ entry it has.
[04:05] <dooglus> hondje: how are you entering that calculation?
[04:06] <pschulz01> How do I find out what device to use to mount it? Messages says... localhost kernel: scsi5 : SCSI emulation fo...
[04:06] <vladuz976> BROKEN_LADDER, dmesg find out where it is it think /dev/sda or something  then mount that to a dir
[04:06] <sproingie> hondje: otherwise you probably divided by 1 and multiplied by 10^5
[04:06] <afaik> can I kill gconfd?
[04:06] <afaik> what is it's purpose? there is no man page for it
[04:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> vladuz976 dmesg will tell me that?
[04:06] <dooglus> hondje: using scientific view?
[04:06] <pschulz01> Sep 27 11:18:02 localhost and ...kernel: usb 4-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6
[04:06] <afaik> it is mystereous
[04:06] <hondje> sproingie: yeah, that's what it is
[04:06] <afaik> tell me!
[04:06] <hondje> I wouldn't have thought I needed to () the denom.
[04:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> vladuz976 it just says: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7
[04:07] <vladuz976> BROKEN_LADDER, really?
[04:07] <thoreauputic> afaik: gconfd - would you guess gnome configuration daemon ?
[04:07] <hondje> dooglus: yeah, sproingie was on that one :)
[04:07] <afaik> can I kill ut
[04:07] <afaik> there are 10 processes of it running
[04:07] <scottb> anyone know the proper install setup for ruby?  i keep getting errors when trying to setup ruby-gems
[04:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> vladuz976 uh..yeah really.
[04:08] <vladuz976> BROKEN_LADDER, is it connected
[04:08] <vladuz976> ?
[04:08] <hondje> thanks, guys :)
[04:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> of course.
[04:08] <dooglus> hondje: try 1*10^2/1*10^2
[04:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> vladuz976 dmesg clearly says it's connected.  lsusb shows it.
[04:08] <dooglus> hondje: I get 10,000
[04:08] <thoreauputic> afaik: why do you want to kill it ??
[04:09] <dooglus> hondje: it's doing (1*10^2/1)*10^2, isn't it
[04:09] <xuniluser> What download accelerators do you guys use?
[04:09] <hondje> dooglus: exactly...isn't that dumb? I should file a bug on that anyway
[04:09] <sproingie> afaik: you can probably kill the hung gconfd processes.  there's probably a parent process, use pstree to see if there is.  don't kill that one
[04:09] <vladuz976> anybody else here know how to connect the digi cam? isnt' there something in gnome for it?
[04:09] <dooglus> hondje: I think it's probably kind of right...  depending on what you think 'exp' should do...
[04:10] <dooglus> hondje: * and / have equal precedence, like in C, and the group left to right.
[04:10] <hondje> gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h for the camera
[04:10] <pschulz01> When I plug in a USB flask disk it comes up.. whan I plug in USB HDD it doesn't.
[04:10] <dooglus> so a*b/c*d means ((a*b)/c)*d
[04:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> vladuz976 isn't there a way to look ut a usb device in the list and probe it to find out which device node it is using?
[04:10] <hondje> dooglus: yeah, but it should know when you're using exp what you're wanting
[04:10] <NiCKeL> AHAHAHA
[04:10] <NiCKeL> thats a good nickname
[04:10] <NiCKeL> dooglus
[04:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> please forgive my dear aunt sally
[04:11] <hondje> What did you aunt do?
[04:11] <_jason> hondje:  but then if you wanted the nonexponent expression you'd have to put the parantheses even though normally you don't need them :)
[04:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> hondje it's a mnemonic device that relates to order of operations in math.
[04:11] <afaik> sproingie, you... you.. you tricked me!
[04:11] <pschulz01> BROKEN_LADDER: there should be, but how?
[04:11] <hondje> ah
[04:11] <afaik> I killed the gconfd processes and my stystem crashed!
[04:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> parentheses f? multiplication division add subtract
[04:11] <hondje> I should know that, I'm the guy with math equations tattooed on himself
[04:11] <_jason> BROKEN_LADDER:  please excuse!
[04:12] <rob_p> BROKEN_LADDER:  Perhaps something like, "tail -n 50 /var/log/syslog" will give you some useful info regarding your usb device.
[04:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> _jason yeah!  that's it.
[04:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> order of operations is, of course, arbitrary.
[04:12] <afaik> BROKEN_LADDER, I said it before and I'll say it again... your nick is damn annoying
[04:12] <_jason> hondje:  what math equations do you have tattooed?
[04:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> afaik i think it's beautiful.
[04:13] <lgc> sproingie, I burnt the CD as an ISO image and the program did issue a warning that I didn't quite understood. about the disk only containing CD images.
[04:13] <s3[mn] rain> I see the ubuntu repositories only have php 4.4.0 for apache2, I was wondering where it installs php to so that I can put 4.0.4 in there for testing
[04:13] <ninjakarl> Greetings all. I need some help if you would be willing to oblige.
[04:13] <pschulz01>  BROKEN_LADDER: When I plug in my USB key, I get a '/dev/sda1' device created which is owned by root.plugdev
[04:13] <Hobbsee> ninjakarl - on what?
[04:13] <hondje> _jason: just added eulers identity last night, e^i*pi + 1 = 0, heisenburgs uncertainty priciple, F = d/dt p, and adding E^2 = (mc^2)^2 + (pc)^2 tonight
[04:14] <pschulz01> BROKEN_LADDER: This device is not created when the USB Harddrive is used.
[04:14] <farion> #lc
[04:14] <ninjakarl> Belking network Card: f5d6020z ver. 3000. I need to find some drivers for it before I switch over today.
[04:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> pschulz01 hmm..
[04:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> pschulz01 i get that with my dap actually.  /dev/sda1
[04:15] <_jason> hondje:  do fermat's little theorem
[04:15] <hondje> _jason: oh, that'd be a nice touch
[04:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> pschulz01 i'm going to reboot just for the heck of it.  i plugged the camera in before i had loaded usb_storage and sd_mod so that could have done something.  who knows..
[04:15] <hondje> I'm aiming at having the whole left inner calf done with equations, but I can't accept just any ol' thing :)
[04:15] <pschulz01> BROKEN_LADDER: I'm going to plug in the USB HDD, create the 'sda1' device (maj 8, min 1) and see if I can mount via that.
[04:15] <Agrajag-> g'day. what might be stopping this working: "xhost +; DISPLAY=localhost:0.0 xterm" - i get "xterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:0.0"
[04:15] <ninjakarl> brb
[04:16] <Agrajag-> doing DISPLAY=:0.0 xterm works though
[04:16] <caleb_> breezy - anybody know what mono package contains gdk-x11-2.0?
[04:16] <DaSkreech> Ubuntu sucks for Dialup
[04:16] <hondje> oh, maybe his last theorem
[04:16] <Bicchi> What is the difference from booting into: "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic Default"    and    "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic"
[04:16] <AnkhWeasel> Say that I have a Windows XP / Ubuntu dual boot. Say that I uninstalled 5.04, looking to reinstall with 5.10 - cleaned out the old partitions with a full erase, and then, after burning 5.10 to disk, rebooted after setting my computer to make new partitions. GRUB loads. With errors. My partitions haven't been written, and I therefore can't boot into XP. I'm on the Live CD now.
[04:17] <ninjakarl> Anybody? Belkin NIC f5d6020z ver. 3000 drivers?
[04:17] <SpaceBass> AnkhWeasel:  can you use fdisk and make the xp partition bootable?
[04:17] <pschulz01> BROKEN_LADDER: No luck... mount: sda1 is not a valid block device
[04:18] <DaSkreech> it doesn't have an obvious way ti dial up or disconnect
[04:18] <AnkhWeasel> Fdisk from like, DOS?
[04:18] <SpaceBass> AnkhWeasel:  or from linux :)
[04:18] <mrimbert> measure theory
[04:18] <SpaceBass> its on the live CD or should be
[04:18] <AnkhWeasel> Swanktastic. I was just looking for that. :)
[04:19] <hondje> oh hey! Swartz-Cauchy!
[04:19] <SpaceBass> AnkhWeasel: do you get grub or anything when you boot to the hd?
[04:19] <Herbal_child> can someone tell me why i see .gov sources in apt-get? ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov
[04:19] <delltony> alright one of two things either firefox is borked on me or java is. i'm shooting more toward java cause when i go to the java test page after installing java firefox simply closes out on me anyone else have this issue and a solution?
[04:19] <AnkhWeasel> It gets GRUB, all error'd  up.
[04:19] <blahrus> delltony, run firefox from the command line and get some errors for us :)
[04:20] <AnkhWeasel> Doesn't get to the point of listing my OSs.
[04:20] <Herbal_child> ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov ?
[04:20] <delltony> aww good point will do
[04:20] <SpaceBass> AnkhWeasel:  guess its looking for /boot/grub which is gone so menu.list is gone and thus no listing of os
[04:20] <hondje> mrimbert: that's pretty weird stuff, man
[04:20] <mrimbert> :)
[04:20] <SpaceBass> AnkhWeasel: get a windows or dos boot disc and run fdisk /mbr
[04:20] <SpaceBass> that will get your windows back
[04:20] <delltony> alrirght let me paste this to pastebin
[04:21] <hosler> I need help with PEAR. I installed pear onto my webhosting using the go-pear.php script, but now when I require DB.php my pages all turn up blank. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:21] <delltony> brb
[04:21] <AnkhWeasel> Righto, thanks. Will it let me clear off GRUB?
[04:21] <SpaceBass> AnkhWeasel:  fdisk/mbr (one word) will clear the master boot record and thus remove grub all togather
[04:21] <lgc> Does anyone know what is the 5.10-preview-installl-template?
[04:21] <mrimbert> lgc, what do you mean?
[04:22] <SpaceBass> assuming your windows is still on the first partition on the drive
[04:22] <AnkhWeasel> Alright. Thanks a lot, mate.
[04:22] <SpaceBass> np, goood luck
[04:22] <lgc> mrimbert, I downloaded the preview-install template together with the Breezy ISO images and now I don't know what to do with them (since the disk doesn't boot)
[04:23] <mrimbert> lgc, template?
[04:23] <lgc> It's on the file list from the download site.
[04:23] <s3[mn] rain> for apache2 I have php in "/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so", can I change libphp4.so to whatever version of php 4 i want?
[04:23] <mrimbert> lgc, all you need is the .iso.  Not sure what the template is that you're referring to
[04:24] <lgc> mrimbert, That is the problem. The file is being "offered
[04:24] <hosler> I need help with PEAR. I installed pear onto my webhosting using the go-pear.php script, but now when I require DB.php my pages all turn up blank. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:24] <SpaceBass> AnkhWeasel:  where in Au?
[04:24] <AnkhWeasel> West Aus.
[04:24] <Hobbsee> another aussie hey?
[04:24] <lgc> together with the ISO image, but no explanation is to be found about it, mrimbert .
[04:25] <mrimbert> lgc, just get the .iso
[04:25] <AnkhWeasel> Damn right.
[04:25] <Hobbsee> greetings from nsw
[04:25] <scottb> hosler: there is more configuration you need to do to the php.ini file in order to get pear working
[04:25] <scottb> php needs to know where to look for the pear libraries
[04:25] <lgc> If it doesn't boot, how can I make it boot, mrimbert ?
[04:25] <hondje> okay, that's enough linear algebra for one night, must not google what mrimbert says again ;-)
[04:25] <AnkhWeasel> From where, SpaceBass?
[04:25] <hondje> wikipedia will get you lost
[04:25] <SpaceBass> USA
[04:25] <Hobbsee> spacebass: it's fun, do it
[04:25] <mrimbert> lgc, make sure the md5sum is correct before you burn it
[04:26] <hosler> scottb: like what. Can I have a local php.ini configuration file?
[04:26] <delltony> error with firefox ---> http://rafb.net/paste/results/HWPr6N56.html
[04:26] <mrimbert> hondje, measure theory, dude, not lin. alg. ;)
[04:26] <AnkhWeasel> So, just to check - erasing the MBR doesn't kill my XP install?
[04:26] <someuser> helo all
[04:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> i can't get my digital camera to get a /dev entry. :(
[04:26] <scottb> ah, i take it you're in a shared hosting environment...you don't have access to the php.ini file right?
[04:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> even though it's listed in lsusb.
[04:27] <lgc> mrimbert, it seems the utility included in Hoary doesnt do the checksum. Do you know how to make it in a different way? On the terminal, maybe?
[04:27] <Kyral> AnkhWeasel, it will...
[04:27] <Kyral> installing GRUB there won't
[04:27] <mrimbert> lgc, you should have the md5sum command
[04:27] <SpaceBass> AnkhWeasel:  nope, it restores the windows bootloader and erases grub, but leaves your partitions intact
[04:27] <AnkhWeasel> Alrighty.
[04:27] <SpaceBass> remember fdisk/mbr not just fdisk
[04:28] <AnkhWeasel> Heh, yeah. :)
[04:28] <SpaceBass> no arguments after that, c: is implied and will only work on c
[04:28] <scottb> hosler: read this, it may help: http://builder.com.com/5100-6371-5163311.html
[04:28] <s3[mn] rain> for apache2 I have php in "/usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so", can I change libphp4.so to whatever version of php 4 i want?
[04:29] <lgc> mrimbert, you are right. The command exists. Will the right syntax be md5sum /cdrom0 or something like that?
[04:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> are there some digital cameras that don't act as a usb mass storage device??
[04:30] <mrimbert> lgc, md5um <foo.iso>
[04:30] <mrimbert> BROKEN_LADDER, yes
[04:30] <DaSkreech> Which should be required for a Granny distro :)
[04:30] <hondje> BROKEN_LADDER: Mine doesn't. Having troubles with your?
[04:30] <lgc> mrimbert, I'm working on that...
[04:31] <BROKEN_LADDER> hondje oh my god, i just took it for granted that it would do that.
[04:31] <afaik> what is pickup used for?
[04:31] <hondje> Under system -> preferences -> removable drives and media, do you have 'gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h' in there? That's what I have for camera, and it magically detects it
[04:31] <afaik> I have a bunch of these processes running:pickup -l -t fifo -u -c
[04:31] <xuniluser> i have a problem with acroread. have you guys experienced it also? i thinks there's an error in the .deb from where i was getting it using apt-get
[04:31] <hondje> BROKEN_LADDER: heh, happened to me once too, since everything else I have that's USB is read that way ;)
[04:31] <pschulz01> BROKEN_LADDER: The USB HDD looks to be a problem with the disk itself.
[04:32] <delltony> anyone have an idea on that java error?
[04:32] <BROKEN_LADDER> pschulz01 with the actual camera?
[04:33] <pschulz01> BROKEN_LADDER: Soorry.. this is with the HDD, not camera.
[04:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> i don't have a usb hdd.
[04:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> well, i have a usb drive for flash memory cards
[04:33] <lgc> mrimbert, my machine is taking quite a while on that...
[04:33] <someuser> is there en ms program emulator on subuntu?
[04:34] <mrimbert> lgc, to compute the md5sum? okay.
[04:34] <Toma-> someuser: wine
[04:34] <lgc> mrimbert, yes.
[04:34] <pschulz01> Anyone else here seen screwy behaviour with USB Drives? It's a laptop in a USB caddy. First impression I have is that the caddy is expecting a FAT filesystem on the drive.
[04:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> pschulz01 what did the problem appear to be with the hdd.
[04:34] <lgc> mrimbert, it fia
[04:35] <mrimbert> fia?
[04:35] <lgc> mrimbert, it finally ended with a "buffer read error"! Damn!
[04:35] <esac> does anybody know how/if i can use gensplash_initramfs in ubuntu to generate a cool fbsplash screen ?
[04:35] <trix> it is possible to upgrade untu to kubuntu?
[04:35] <pschulz01> Plug in, didn't initally mount.. for some reason it mounts now, but all the file names are 'gibberish' and I am getting 'invalid access to FAT' errors in /var/log/messages.
[04:36] <trix> ubuntu to kubuntu
[04:36] <mrimbert> trix, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> if i have a usb flash card reader, what device name would it likely get?
[04:36] <mrimbert> lgc, I've never seen that happen before.
[04:36] <chx> BROKEN_LADDER: dmesg
[04:36] <B_166-ER-X> why is the time in the corner of Gnome and the time in the System--Administratio--Time and date      , are not the same ??
[04:37] <lgc> mrimbert, I did the same with the file on the hard disk and it throws some big hex number.
[04:37] <mrimbert> lgc, that's the checksum
[04:37] <pschulz01> The USB drive has a Breezy install on it (installed directly on a laptop). The plan was to modify GRUB/fstab to allow it to be booted from USB.
[04:38] <pschulz01> but alas the hardware has failed me.
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> pschulz01: you can do it
[04:38] <HrdwrBoB> you need to put a delay in the boot sequence
[04:38] <_john> whats the name of that java package?
[04:38] <lgc> mrimbert, I am doing it on the /cdrom/ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso. Just to make sure...
[04:38] <_john> the one in synaptic
[04:39] <_john> that allows you to use the runtime environment
[04:39] <mrimbert> lgc, how did it end up there?
[04:39] <lady_annie19> hello
[04:39] <pschulz01> HrdwrBoB: Can Breezy be installed on a FAT filesystem as root?
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> er
[04:39] <HrdwrBoB> no
[04:39] <mrimbert> lgc, you want to download the .iso, and then burn it to CD.  Don't create a data CD from the .iso, which is what is sounds like you did.
[04:39] <lgc> mrimbert, it's still in the makings...
[04:40] <delltony> hmm looks like someone else had my error but no solution yet http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20050917.071444.716f5c45.en.html
[04:40] <pschulz01> Has anyone see USB devices that only support FAT? I suspect my IPod has this problem.
[04:40] <mrimbert> lgc, sounds like you're burning it incorrectly
[04:40] <lgc> mrimbert, I am not sure of what I did. I just downloaded to the HD and then burnt the CD. Is this wrong?
[04:40] <atty> hi
[04:40] <jsubl2> delltony: might need to try a newer version of java
[04:40] <darklogic> i just installed hoary and on booting it freezes (black screen) trying to start the gnome display manager
[04:41] <darklogic> anyone have a suggestion?
[04:41] <mrimbert> lgc, are you using nautilus to do that?
[04:41] <lgc> mrimbert, is there any parameter I have to tweak?
[04:41] <atty> how to do command to run dpkg package a ?
[04:41] <lgc> mrimbert, natilus, indeed.
[04:41] <FhaeTon> before I waist my money which should I buy SATA or SATA150  and is the such thing as SATA2 drive?
[04:41] <delltony> yeah ill download the bin from java's page and try that i guess
[04:41] <pschulz01> Hmm.. I can't seen any way out of this one.. by for now.
[04:41] <trix> mrimbert: hw about upgrading from cd without internet connection?
[04:41] <lgc> mrimbert, I ended up again with an md5sum error for the cdrom file.
[04:42] <FhaeTon> http://www.answers.com/topic/serial-ata
[04:42] <mrimbert> lgc, run the md5sum on the downloaded .iso image, wherever you saved it
[04:42] <atty> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.  <-- how to do this?
[04:42] <mrimbert> trix, upgrading an hoary install with a breezy CD?  Yes, it can be done.
[04:42] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh my god!  kde as this camera program that supports my camera.  i can just import my photos in gthumb!!  yayyyyyy
[04:42] <mrimbert> atty, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:42] <B_166-ER-X> Why does it says E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?, when i try to apt-get update ??
[04:42] <lgc> mrimbert, I just did that and got the big hex number I mentioned
[04:43] <Sonny_Wertzik> Anybody get a new header update for hoary recently? and have your alsa drivers crash?
[04:43] <mrimbert> lgc, good, compare it to what it's supposed to be
[04:43] <trigger> hi everyone, can someone please tell me if there is a guide on how to install the ati drivers in ubuntu, i have an ati 9600, and i need the 3d to work
[04:43] <mrimbert> !tell trigger about ati
[04:43] <B_166-ER-X> oh
[04:43] <B_166-ER-X> its ok
[04:43] <lgc> mrimbert, let me check the download page...
[04:44] <mrimbert> lgc, right
[04:44] <dooglus> how can I ask 'gam_server' to restart?
[04:45] <darklogic> can anyone tell me why my new hoary install freezes on boot?
[04:45] <toxicle> hi guys ... i'm dual booting windows and ubuntu
[04:45] <Hobbsee> hi toxicle
[04:45] <toxicle> i have grub as the bootloader
[04:45] <darklogic> this is a bit frustrating
[04:45] <Sonny_Wertzik> anyone even hear about someone having problems after installing the laterset kernel update?
[04:45] <dooglus> darklogic: sounds like a problem with the X setup.
[04:45] <toxicle> now i need to reinstall windows
[04:45] <mrimbert> darklogic, more details please.  That's obviously not what it does for the majority of people, or it would have been a big deal.
[04:45] <lgc> mrimbert, I seems it downloaded OK.
[04:45] <toxicle> how to i fix grub without reinstalling ubuntu ?
[04:45] <mrimbert> lgc, good.  You're just burning a data CD, which is not what you want to do
[04:46] <Hobbsee> toxicle: as in, you've lost windows, or grub is entirely dead?
[04:46] <darklogic> i installled hoary, everything went fine afaik, and on first boot it freezes (black screen) shortly after the message "starting gnome display manager"
[04:46] <toxicle> Hobbsee: nah ... everything works fine now
[04:46] <Hobbsee> toxicle: cool :)
[04:46] <toxicle> Hobbsee: I plan to reinstall windows
[04:46] <toxicle> when i do .. it will take over grub
[04:46] <mrimbert> darklogic, can you switch to a virtual console?
[04:46] <lgc> mrimbert, then what settings do I have to use (is there any?)
[04:47] <darklogic> mrimbert, nope. completely frozen
[04:47] <DaSkreech> Th update notification seems to ebe broken
[04:47] <difeta> I've upgraded to ubuntu and I'm running an nvidia card, when i try to startx I get an error that says caught singal 11. The log does not have any extra information. Any ideas?
[04:47] <DaSkreech> the
[04:47] <mrimbert> lgc, use nautilus.  right-click on the .iso, and select "Write to disc"
[04:47] <mrimbert> difeta, did you configure xorg to use nvidia?
[04:47] <_john> hey.  for some reason, j2re can't be found in synaptic.  I have the extra repositories, does anyone know what the problem might be>
[04:48] <difeta> mrimbert yep the same way I always have. In fact I'm using the same x.org file I was using in hoary
[04:48] <toxicle> http://ubuntuforums.o
[04:49] <ro0t> _john, hit update
[04:49] <jroes> due to the massive lack of binaries for amd64, is it best to just stick to a 32bit install?
[04:49] <adjacent> difeta: what kernel?
[04:49] <mrimbert> difeta, so you when through the process described on the wiki BinaryDriverHowto page?
[04:49] <_john> ro0t: apt-get update?
[04:49] <_john> oh
[04:49] <_john> oh never mind
[04:49] <_john> i got it
[04:50] <difeta> adjacent 2.6.12-9
[04:50] <lgc> mrimbert, I get this panel that says: write disk to (a chooser): CDRW/DVD or file image. Then write options: Maximum possible, etc.
[04:50] <mrimbert> darklogic, totally frozen, eh?  Can you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log after booting into rescue mode?
[04:50] <difeta> mrimbert nope.
[04:50] <B_166-ER-X> why is amule not listed in synaptic or Apt-get ???
[04:50] <adjacent> difeta: apt-get install linux-modules-restricted-2.6.12-9
[04:51] <adjacent> difeta: then go into xorg.conf and change /usr/lib/X11/fonts/blah to /usr/share/X11/fonts/blah
[04:51] <dooglus> B_166-ER-X: amule is in the 'universe' section.  you need to add that.
[04:51] <dooglus> !tell B_166-ER-X about repositories
[04:51] <adjacent> difeta: and you may need to change your keyboard driver name from keyboard to kbd
[04:51] <mrimbert> !tell difeta about nvidia
[04:51] <mrimbert> difeta, please follow the procedures as specified in the URL ubotu sent you
[04:52] <adjacent> difeta: i assume you are in the same position i was earlier. using nvidia driver, dist-upgrade to breezy, and xorg wont start up
[04:52] <difeta> adjacent thats right
[04:52] <difeta> mrimbert thanks
[04:52] <adjacent> difeta: if you check those things i told you it should come up nicely
[04:53] <mrimbert> lgc, go ahead and give that a try
[04:53] <darklogic> mrimbert, nothing obvious in there, shall i send it to you?
[04:53] <adjacent> difeta: and you may want to change firefox fonts to bitstream fonts because they look nasty otherwise
[04:53] <lgc> mrimbert, I already tried both options: CDRW/DVD and image file on two disks, and none seems to work (which means I wasted two disks).
[04:53] <lightstar> hi all..just upgraded 2 breezy n i was wondering if there is any way 2 remove evolution completely?
[04:53] <mrimbert> lgc, it's for one CD
[04:54] <mrimbert> darklogic, you can paste it on pastebin if you want
[04:54] <atty> thanks mrimbert. now i can update my ubuntu software updated
[04:54] <difeta> adjacent none of that worked. Whats wierd is I can use the vesa or nv driver. But not the nvidia driver
[04:54] <mrimbert> yo nalioth
[04:55] <mrimbert> atty, nice
[04:55] <darklogic> mrimbert, http://pastebin.com/375308
[04:55] <lgc> mrimbert, what I mean is that I already exhausted the two recording options, to no avail.
[04:55] <adjacent> do you have the 2.6.12-9 restricted modules?
[04:55] <someuser> helo, can somone assit me?
[04:55] <nalioth> hello mr. in-disguise
[04:55] <mrimbert> lgc, sounds like you're doing something wrong.
[04:56] <lgc> mrimbert, any clue?
[04:56] <|ww> so what would cause the connect to server ftp client not connect, but connecting via ftp on a command line works fine.. basic ftp port 21 yada yada
[04:56] <Hobbsee> someuser: what's youre question?
[04:56] <mrimbert> lgc, as I said, you download the .iso, right-click, and select "Write to disc".  It's less the 650MB, so it fits on 1 CD
[04:56] <someuser> hi, if i do install ubuntu on my hd and i want to uninstal it in time,
[04:56] <mrimbert> nalioth, hardly a disguise to use my real name ;)
[04:56] <someuser> can i do so without damaging win
[04:57] <difeta> adjacent yes, I have the proper restriced modules
[04:57] <Hobbsee> someuser: as in, dual boot
[04:57] <someuser> ir i will have to reformat the entire hd, and reinstall win
[04:57] <trix> mrimbert: have u tried turbo linux?
[04:57] <adjacent> difeta: if there is nothing in /var/log/Xorg.0.log im stumped too. sorry
[04:57] <mrimbert> trix, nope
[04:57] <trix> have u heard?
[04:57] <lgc> mrimbert, that's what I've done. There's no space left for messing around in the disk...
[04:58] <someuser> yes, i hade a bad expiriance with dualboot with mandrake
[04:58] <Hobbsee> somuser: depends if you install the win and linux side by side or not - if they are side by side, you should be able to uninstall it
[04:58] <wrabbit01> someuser, as far as I know, you can do dualboot.  I've just burnt Ubuntu live and am running it right now.   I've gotta figure out how to dual boot myself.
[04:58] <trix> i have a turbo linux here and im trying to install
[04:58] <mrimbert> darklogic, you do have an Intel i8xx chipset?
[04:58] <Hobbsee> dualbooting is fine - that's what this is
[04:58] <os2mac> can someone walk me through configuring a wlan adapter in ubuntu?
[04:58] <Hobbsee> install windows first though
[04:58] <darklogic> mrimbert, yes onboard. but my monitor is plugged into my pci geforce4
[04:58] <someuser> i get the dual boot thing, but my qwestion is diffirent
[04:59] <|ww> my ftp client will connect just never show files.. is there passive mode i can set me ftp client up with
[04:59] <mrimbert> someuser, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[04:59] <someuser> if i chuse to remuve ubunutu *regardless how good it is)
[04:59] <Hobbsee> yes, you can get rid of it, you'll have to overwrite the MBR though if you isntall it
[04:59] <wrabbit01> cheers mrimbert... that helps me aswell
[04:59] <Hobbsee> and if i remember correctly, that windows dual boot wiki is terrible
[04:59] <someuser> will i gonna need to reformat the hd, end reinstall win?
[04:59] <difeta> adjacent when i attempt to startx I see an nvidia logo, but the X log says something like. "agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode"
[04:59] <mrimbert> darklogic, ah, that's why.  Can you disable your i8xx in the BIOS?
[04:59] <difeta> adjacent thats the last line.
[04:59] <dooglus> how do I build software using the -dbg version of libglib?
[05:00] <Arkainium> Seems like hal introduces more problems than it solves.  :P
[05:00] <darklogic> mrimbert, not that i know of
[05:00] <os2mac> can someone help with wlan on ubuntu?
[05:00] <dooglus> is it a ./configure option?  or do I edit a /etc/... file?  or what?
[05:00] <Hobbsee> well, there's a better one, anyway
[05:00] <mrimbert> wrabbit01, :)
[05:00] <darklogic> mrimbert, my bios doesn't give me a whole lot of flexibility
[05:00] <Hobbsee> someuser: no
[05:00] <mrimbert> darklogic, well, xorg is currently configured to use it
[05:00] <Hobbsee> someuser: do you have your windows cd's anyway?
[05:00] <someuser> so i will be able to remuve it without damaging windows?
[05:01] <boxerboy29> by the way the site that you guys tell me is bad is back up and running on same address
[05:01] <someuser> i want to evoid completly the need to reinstal win, if i want to uninstal ubuntu
[05:01] <difeta> adjacent I'd like to jsut reinstall the whole dang thing. But for some reason cdrecord wont work either
[05:01] <darklogic> mrimbert, figures. so should i switch my monitor to that vga port and change it to use the geforce then? and how?
[05:01] <adjacent> difeta: looks like a bug. possibly downgrade udev
[05:01] <Hobbsee> someuser: yes, you should be able to remove it
[05:01] <someuser> is this possible? (without damaging partitions or windows)?
[05:01] <difeta> adjacent in cdrecord?
[05:02] <bimberi> os2mac: hopefully this might help - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:02] <os2mac> going there now
[05:02] <mrimbert> darklogic, if you want to use the geforce, you'll need to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, and see if that works.
[05:02] <Hobbsee> someuser: yes.  if you install grub to the mbr, then you'll have to use fdisk if you ever want to get rid of it, which is off the windows cd's
[05:02] <nmstryoda> holy crud batman.. 74 new updates on breezy... cool
[05:02] <mrimbert> darklogic, you may have to be sure to specify the Bus ID, since you can't disable your i8xx
[05:02] <esac> how can i add my own initramfs (fbsplash) to an ubuntu kernel ?
[05:03] <mrimbert> esac, probably you'll be the first to try
[05:03] <someuser> after uing fdisk-mbr will my windows work es normally?
[05:03] <sdali> Does anyone know how to enable sftp and ssh servers in Ubuntu?
[05:03] <nmstryoda> !ssh
[05:03] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[05:03] <Hobbsee> someuser: yes, but check google before you do it, so you get the right command
[05:03] <mrimbert> sdali, install openssh-server
[05:03] <sdali> Thanks!
[05:03] <Hobbsee> !mbr
[05:03] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Hobbsee
[05:03] <Hobbsee> hehe...right...pity
[05:03] <sdali> !ssh
[05:03] <Hobbsee> !dualboot
[05:04] <ubotu> it has been said that dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[05:04] <adjacent> difeta: im not sure. but it sounds like hotplug or udev is having a problem....
[05:04] <nmstryoda> !grub
[05:04] <ubotu> [grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:04] <Hobbsee> ah...that's the one i wanted!
[05:04] <someuser> ok. ty. i will ( i'm asking becos i hade a nghitmear dooing it with Mandrake)
[05:04] <nmstryoda> welcom Hobbsee
[05:04] <difeta> adjacent Then I'll boot into knoppix, burn the cd and reinstall this bad boy. I suspect m cutomization have cased problems
[05:04] <darklogic> mrimbert, okay thanks for your help
[05:04] <darklogic> see you all soon
[05:04] <Hobbsee> someuser: it shouldnt be terribly hard
[05:04] <trix> mrimbert: i try to install my kubuntu cd in my ubuntu but my hoary is ristricted..
[05:04] <mrimbert> !botabuse
[05:04] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[05:04] <adjacent> difeta: good luck
[05:04] <nmstryoda> LOL
[05:04] <someuser> ok, thanks for helping
[05:05] <Hobbsee> no problems
[05:05] <B_166-ER-X> Why is my time no set correctly  even if it is in the system config ??
[05:05] <mrimbert> someuser, I gave you that URL a long time ago...
[05:05] <sdali> mrimbert: I've already got it installed, and "man openssh-server" is no help. How do I turn it on?
[05:05] <someuser> one more qwestion, how much disk space will ubuntu take?
[05:05] <nmstryoda> B_166-ER-X, is it set to Universal standard time?
[05:05] <mrimbert> sdali, it's started after install.
[05:05] <JDahl> someuser, around 2GB
[05:05] <joel_> hey does anyone know how to get java running on ubuntu?
[05:05] <nmstryoda> !java
[05:05] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:06] <gowee> ! java
[05:06] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:06] <nmstryoda> !blackdownjava
[05:06] <ubotu> nmstryoda: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:06] <atty> can ubuntu have xmice inviroment ?
[05:06] <joel_> are these robots?
[05:06] <signbarn> okay, here's my error message: Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libatk-bridge' which is needed to make this application accessible
[05:06] <nmstryoda> joel_, ubotu is
[05:06] <Hobbsee> joel_: ubotu is a robot, yes
[05:06] <gowee> ! plugins
[05:06] <ubotu> gowee: No idea
[05:06] <someuser> ok, thanks, i think i'm gooing to install it (after reading link) now that i'm shure i can uninstal it saftly
[05:06] <B_166-ER-X> nmstryoda nope, but i did it i think and it dont change anything
[05:06] <joel_> o ok
[05:06] <gowee> ! plugins
[05:07] <nmstryoda> B_166-ER-X, you on wireless?..
[05:07] <someuser> that is with no damage to my current os
[05:07] <lgc> mrimbert, I've been md5summing again with the first copy of the ISO image: It ended again with an error! So both copies are damaged. Could it be the software or my drive? My machine is almost brand new and I'd never burnt a CD on it.
[05:07] <B_166-ER-X> nope
[05:07] <nmstryoda> dhcp?
[05:07] <B_166-ER-X> ???
[05:07] <nmstryoda> ... i.e. does the Ubuntu timeserver sync action fail on bootup?
[05:07] <tritium> lgc, then you need to download it again
[05:08] <B_166-ER-X> i dont know
[05:08] <tritium> nmstryoda, if your network interface isn't up yet, which is common for wireless interfaces
[05:08] <lgc> tritium, The checksum for the download was right.
[05:08] <joel_> anyone know how to get java running? i downloaded the java file but when i double click it it says it cannot open the file
[05:08] <tritium> lgc, yeah, I saw ;)
[05:08] <nmstryoda> right... but B_166-ER-X isn't on wirelesss.. .but time is off
[05:08] <dabaR> joel_: where did you get the file?
[05:09] <sdali> mrimbert: Thanks.
[05:09] <tritium> lgc, actually, you said it gave you an error
[05:09] <tritium> sdali, sure :)
[05:09] <lgc> tritium, do you mean I have to download again in spite of that?
[05:09] <B_166-ER-X> its actually like 23:00 here but my gnome time says 3:05 am
[05:09] <tritium> lgc, if you checked the md5sum of the .iso that you downloaded, and it gave you an error, then yes.
[05:09] <atty> how can i view my windowxp partition? winxp install under fat32 but i can't see the partition
[05:10] <|ww> any suggest a good ftp client for ubuntu?
[05:10] <lgc> tritium, the CD  file does have an error, but not the originally downloaded file.
[05:10] <Hobbsee> atty: www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:10] <tritium> lgc, the file should never have been burned to CD in the first place
[05:10] <bimberi> ubotu tell atty about windowsdrives
[05:10] <lgc> tritium, what instead?
[05:10] <bimberi> |ww: nautilus
[05:10] <trix> its possible to view other cam in gaim?
[05:10] <tritium> !tell Hobbsee about ubuntuguide
[05:11] <bimberi> |ww: Places -> Connect to Server
[05:11] <DaSkreech> Can I apt install e17?
[05:11] <tritium> lgc, we've gone over this already
[05:11] <joel_> java
[05:11] <Hobbsee> !ubuntuguide
[05:11] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[05:11] <joel_> anyone know how to get it working
[05:11] <bimberi> joel_: did you follow the directions on the wiki?
[05:11] <|ww> bimberi: Places -> connect to server wont work for one of my ftp servers don't know why.. i can ftp via a command line
[05:11] <s3[mn] rain> Probably a newbie question, but how can I extract the contents of an rpm so I can get one file out of it?
[05:11] <joel_> what is the wiki
[05:11] <joel_> sorry I'm new to this
[05:12] <tritium> joel_, the best method is to use make-jpkg (in java-package) to build your own .deb from Sun's .bin
[05:12] <|ww> bimberi: I have other working ftp clients.. i dont know if its a transfer mode problem.. the ftp server on my production webbox (proftpd) seems to work with everything else
[05:12] <I-ninja> how can i fucking play windows games on ubuntu
[05:12] <lgc> tritium, are you mrimbert? He explained how to BURN the iso file to CD. Now you say it should NOT be done.  Java"
[05:14] <tritium> follow the method involving java-package
[05:14] <nmstryoda> I-ninja, sudo apt-get install wine
[05:14] <joel_> thanks ill try that
[05:14] <os2mac> well that just sucks.
[05:14] <atty> bit complecated to set as ubotu show
[05:15] <lgc> tritium,  just tell me if I am doing wrong in burning the iso file to CD.
[05:15] <os2mac> why is it that I can't find a distro that does both my wlan card and my video.
[05:15] <os2mac> ubuntu gets the video correct but I have to use the ndiswrapper for my wlan card and it's not supported in the live distro of ubuntu
[05:15] <I-ninja> arg
[05:15] <tritium> lgc, I told you to right-click and choose "Write to CD"
[05:16] <nmstryoda> os2mac, blame the Mfgs of the network cards
[05:16] <I-ninja> ubuntu is so hard
[05:16] <nmstryoda> and MS
[05:16] <I-ninja> i tought it was easy
[05:16] <os2mac> this is Dell/Broadcom
[05:16] <I-ninja> i might well get installed fedora core 3
[05:16] <tritium> I-ninja, it's one of the easiest distros
[05:16] <nmstryoda> os2mac, yes
[05:16] <I-ninja> its more easy than ubuntu
[05:16] <nmstryoda> I have that too os2mac
[05:16] <os2mac> should be a widely available driver.
[05:16] <nmstryoda> I-ninja, to each his own
[05:16] <I-ninja> its hard to install from ubuntu
[05:17] <os2mac> nms do you have a wlan card that works in the live distro of ubuntu?
[05:17] <I-ninja> i cant install yahoo messenger
[05:17] <I-ninja> i cant install wine
[05:17] <I-ninja> dam it
[05:17] <atty> y dont u use gaim?
[05:17] <drogoh> Use Gaim.
[05:17] <nmstryoda> os2mac, proprietary drivers have that problem... none want's to release the code for the driver... thus you havea ndiswrapper
[05:17] <tritium> I-ninja, there's gaim.  But you can install both of those.
[05:17] <lgc> that's what I did, tritium-mrimbert! I swear! I just need your clue as to what -apart from choosing the wrong option, which is not the case- could have gone wrong.
[05:17] <I-ninja> atleast in fedora i can install those two
[05:17] <drogoh> You don't need Yahoo's messenger.
[05:17] <nmstryoda> I-ninja, why not?
[05:17] <I-ninja> even tho i cant run such programs
[05:17] <tritium> lgc, there should not be those options
[05:17] <atty> just because of yahoo messenger u say ubuntu not good?
[05:17] <tritium> lgc, it should just start burning the CD to disc
[05:17] <atty> i did use fedora core 3 before
[05:17] <I-ninja> iam so frustrated i cant play games on linuc
[05:17] <I-ninja> linux
[05:17] <x_o1> Can anyone tell me why I am currently able to chat here, but my network-admin displays "Disconnected" in the status field.  I've tried to deactivate and activate, but nothing helps.
[05:18] <nmstryoda> I-ninja, are you using sudo apt-get install wine??
[05:18] <I-ninja> yah\
[05:18] <drogoh> I-ninja, Go buy Cedega.
[05:18] <nmstryoda> I-ninja, what is the error?
[05:18] <atty> lol
[05:18] <nmstryoda> if long paste on #flood
[05:18] <tritium> I-ninja, why can't you install the winehq.com ones?  There are complete instructions on their website
[05:19] <I-ninja> i cant hardly follow the instruction
[05:19] <I-ninja> it says i go to synatic package
[05:19] <nmstryoda> ok
[05:19] <nmstryoda> so did you try that?
[05:19] <tritium> I-ninja, and?
[05:19] <lgc> tritium, I can click on "record to CD", indeed, and use the default CDRW (as opposed to "image file") option. And then choose to eject the disc after finishing the burn.
[05:20] <tritium> lgc, did you not try that?
[05:20] <I-ninja> and repositories
[05:20] <tritium> I-ninja, yeah, follow those instructions.
[05:20] <lgc> Yes. With equally wrong results, tritium
[05:20] <dabaR> rome was not buiilt in a day
[05:20] <I-ninja> but it displays different from the one they show on site
[05:20] <I-ninja> very different
[05:21] <tritium> lgc, in what way?
[05:21] <I-ninja> when i run
[05:21] <nmstryoda> I-ninja, you have to add them... not really much different... just that there are like 17k + packages to choose from on Ubuntu
[05:21] <I-ninja> sudo apt-get install wine
[05:21] <I-ninja> i got this msg
[05:21] <drogoh> pastebin.com
[05:21] <I-ninja> root@ubuntu:/home/user# sudo apt-get install wine
[05:21] <I-ninja> Reading package lists... Done
[05:21] <I-ninja> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:21] <I-ninja> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[05:21] <I-ninja> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:21] <I-ninja>   ymessenger: Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2 (>= 0.13.0) but it is not going to be installed
[05:21] <I-ninja>               Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed              Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed
[05:21] <I-ninja>               Depends: libssl0.9.6 but it is not going to be installed
[05:21] <dabaR> yay paste
[05:21] <drogoh> Damn it.
[05:21] <I-ninja> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[05:21] <jbroome> !flood
[05:21] <ubotu> it has been said that flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[05:22] <s3[mn] rain> what the heck is a .cpio file?
[05:22] <lgc> tritium, in both options, "CDRW" and "image file", I ended up with a nice, glistering and useless Breezy CD.
[05:22] <calc> s3[mn] rain: man cpio
[05:22] <s3[mn] rain> !! ....
[05:22] <ubotu> No idea, s3[mn] rain
[05:22] <nmstryoda> i warned him... lol
[05:23] <tritium> lgc, try burning at a slower speed.
[05:23] <tritium> I-ninja, don't paste in here please.
[05:23] <calc> s3[mn] rain: its similar to a tar archive
[05:23] <calc> used by rpm, etc
[05:24] <I-ninja> ?
[05:24] <I-ninja> waaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:24] <dabaR> just dont paste
[05:24] <allisfree> strange thing. i enabled the "caps lock", but when i hit the key "e"
[05:24] <lgc> tritium, now you're talking! Thanks! I'll leave that for tomorrow, since I'm running very low on batt. "Adios" from Mexico!
[05:24] <allisfree> it still lower,
[05:24] <tritium> lgc, adios from Nuevo Mexico
[05:25] <I-ninja> i hate ubuntu
[05:25] <drogoh> It hates you too.
[05:25] <I-ninja> its giving me a hard time
[05:25] <dabaR> I-ninja: so?
[05:25] <I-ninja> i cant install
[05:25] <I-ninja> eeeeeeeeeeer
[05:25] <I-ninja> lots of error
[05:25] <nmstryoda> I-ninja, it's different... and takes a little effort to learn what to do
[05:25] <I-ninja> blah blah
[05:25] <dabaR> I-ninja: I think one of the main probs you have is you wanna run, and you cant even walk yet.
[05:25] <dabaR> I-ninja: guive it some time
[05:25] <drogoh> It hates you because you can't listen to suggestions.
[05:25] <nmstryoda> you need to edit your repositories to reflect what you really need
[05:25] <I-ninja> how
[05:25] <nmstryoda> drogoh, well said
[05:25] <nmstryoda> !repos
[05:25] <ubotu> I heard repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:26] <I-ninja> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:26] <nmstryoda> try that for starters
[05:26] <jroes> oh my gosh
[05:26] <I-ninja> no!
[05:26] <jroes> please
[05:26] <jroes> kick him
[05:26] <jroes> :(
[05:26] <drogoh> I-ninja, Suck it up.  This isn't Windows.
[05:26] <I-ninja> i dont need that, all i want is to play my favorite games on linux
[05:26] <I-ninja> thats all i need
[05:26] <tritium> I-ninja, please don't flood the channel with that
[05:26] <I-ninja> i dont need to study
[05:26] <drogoh> Ya know...
[05:26] <dabaR> I-ninja: alternatively, open synaptic, cilck on settings, then repos. In there, click the add button, check off all bozxes,. and say ok, then yes, and thats it.
[05:26] <drogoh> You need to learn.
[05:27] <tritium> I-ninja, don't expect anything in life to come that easily.
[05:27] <allisfree> strange thing. i enabled the "caps lock", but when i hit the key "e", it still lower in console. other key seems correct
[05:27] <drogoh> Even though Ubuntu is one of the most user-friendly distributions out there, you actually need to think about your actions.
[05:27] <s3[mn] rain> whenever I try and extract a cpio file it just gets stuck and doesnt do anything
[05:28] <jroes> I-ninja: with the attitude you're taking to Linux, it is unlikely that you will ever get to "play your favorite games in linux."  in fact, with just that attitude in life in general you are never going to get anything you want.
[05:28] <drogoh> In my opinion, gaming is one of the most annoying things to even mess with (commercial games, that is)
[05:28] <tritium> drogoh, agreed
[05:28] <dabaR> I never help ppl that wanna play games.
[05:28] <drogoh> Loki had a good thing but Scott Draeker was a douche.
[05:28] <dabaR> just cause I dont do it myself, and dont know what to do.
[05:28] <drogoh> So now we have UT2004 and Doom 3. :p
[05:29] <tritium> I-ninja, just be thankful you have time to play games in the first place
[05:29] <drogoh> Amen to that.
[05:29] <MarkShark> Debian/Ubuntu package question: Is there an easy to compare a package to what you have installed, to detect configuration file changes, for example?
[05:29] <drogoh> It's 23:30 and I'm still working.
[05:29] <nmstryoda> tritium, here here
[05:30] <Blue1k> question about compiling...getting a weird error during make
[05:30] <drogoh> qt2, Hardware. :p
[05:30] <qt2> err, strke slightly, i meant extremly.
[05:30] <nmstryoda> qt2,  have you updated?
[05:30] <ksmurf> !java
[05:30] <ubotu> methinks java is to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:30] <I-ninja> what is APT?
[05:30] <nmstryoda> !apt
[05:30] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[05:30] <dabaR> advanced package tool
[05:30] <I-ninja> what am i gonna type on APT
[05:30] <Blue1k> can anyone decipher this error: error: unknown register name %mm0 in asm
[05:30] <drogoh> You're going to type man apt first.
[05:30] <_jason> qt2: firefox?
[05:30] <drogoh> ;/
[05:30] <tritium> Blue1k, what is it?
[05:31] <qt2> drogoh: what hardware would you think would be causing that? everything seems to be working fine to me, and up till recently has been smooth sailing.
[05:31] <nmstryoda> I-ninja, try info apt
[05:31] <Blue1k> compiling gimpshop
[05:31] <qt2> nmstryoda: update in what sense?
[05:31] <allisfree> strange thing. i enabled the "caps lock", but when i hit the key "e", it still lower in console. other key seems correct
[05:31] <sproingie> Blue1k: ouch.  what kind of CPU do you have?
[05:31] <qt2> _jason: among other apps, yes.
[05:31] <jroes> Blue1k: sounds like you're compiling on the wrong arch
[05:31] <nmstryoda> qt2, as in you using breezy or hoary?
[05:31] <Blue1k> AMD XP 2700
[05:31] <drogoh> qt2, "random segfaults" always lead me towards memory, unless it's something mojo bad wrong in libc.
[05:31] <nmstryoda> qt2, and updating to latest patches...
[05:31] <sproingie> Blue1k: try adding -march=k7 to your CFLAGS
[05:31] <dunja> ?ello, is anyone else having problems updating to firefox
[05:31] <nmstryoda> drogoh, or overheating chips... like video
[05:32] <Mizutsuki> I have a hardware issue, I'm trying to get a wifi card working on my laptop, I'm a linux newb, it's a D-link DWL-G650, can anyone help?
[05:32] <Blue1k> ya I've never had this before...I just compiled avidemux fine
[05:32] <_jason> dunja:  what kind of problems?
[05:32] <I-ninja> waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:32] <drogoh> nmstryoda, True.
[05:32] <drogoh> I-ninja, Die.
[05:32] <tritium> I-ninja, please stop.
[05:32] <dabaR><PHONE_NUMBER>7 183/topic
[05:32] <dabaR> oops
[05:32] <dunja> _jason: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[05:32] <dunja> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support
[05:32] <I-ninja> i cant install wine
[05:32] <tritium> drogoh, too harsh, dude.  Please be nice.
[05:32] <Blue1k> march or mach
[05:32] <tritium> dunja, no pasting please
[05:32] <sproingie> Blue1k: actually the cflags might not do it.  it could be the compile making bad CPU assumptions
[05:32] <drogoh> Sorry. :)
[05:32] <I-ninja> what am i gonna put oN APT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:32] <dunja> sorry
[05:32] <I-ninja> i click on add
[05:32] <I-ninja> i click on custom
[05:32] <qt2> nmstryoda: hoary, and yes, i'm up to date.
[05:32] <thrice`> I-ninja, don't be retarded
[05:32] <Blue1k> ahh...how come for gimpshop and not another source?
[05:32] <I-ninja> now asked me for APT
[05:32] <tritium> thanks, jroes
[05:32] <nmstryoda> drogoh, i had that happen playing bzflag... oops, game... but cooling fan died on the video card... replaced with static heat pipe... all better now
[05:32] <_jason> dunja:  killall firefox-bin
[05:32] <I-ninja> what the
[05:33] <sproingie> Blue1k: does it give you a source line in a .c file or a .S file?
[05:33] <dabaR> I-ninja: you went off road a little
[05:33] <I-ninja> this is so frustrating
[05:33] <dabaR> I-ninja: You dont want custom.
[05:33] <thrice`> I-ninja, 3 people pointed you in the direction
[05:33] <dunja> thanks _jason, i'll try it now
[05:33] <qt2> drogoh: hm, well, i've tried differnet memory, might applications segfault if another app is using say, far too much of hte cpu or memory?
[05:33] <Mizutsuki> jesus, this place is too full, can I get someone who knows ubuntu to PM with me?
[05:33] <thoreauputic> !tell I-ninja about docs
[05:33] <thrice`> linux won't spoon feed...learn some things yourself
[05:33] <Blue1k> .c
[05:33] <nmstryoda> I-ninja, do you read or just copy/paste everything you say?
[05:33] <thoreauputic> I-ninja: time to do some reading
[05:33] <nmstryoda> rpm spoiled children
[05:34] <drogoh> qt2, The only reason they would segfault would be if it OOM'd.
[05:34] <_jason> dunja:  it should work... to be on the safe side I personally removed all the firefox packages and reinstalled them... (make sure you get gnome-desktop back too bnecause that is removed)
[05:34] <tritium> Mizutsuki, please ask your question in the channel.  That will maximize the probability of you getting a good answer anyway.
[05:34] <dunja> _jason, it did not work, same error. i tried restarting the compiter too
[05:34] <sproingie> Blue1k: sounds like they hardwired some asm into the c file that isn't for your arch.  make sure you have the right sources. could check the .c file and see if it's #ifdef'd properly
[05:34] <Mizutsuki> tritium - I did, and was ignored
[05:34] <nmstryoda> Mizutsuki, ask again
[05:34] <drogoh> Mizutsuki, Wait for a break in the waves and cast your line again.
[05:34] <sproingie> Blue1k: only way to know for sure is to pull up that .c file and see if there's inline asm
[05:34] <allisfree> strange thing. i enabled the "caps lock", but when i hit the key "e", it still lower in console. other key seems correct
[05:34] <drogoh> I did that last night.
[05:34] <_jason> dunja:  after you kill te process you should be able to start firefox
[05:35] <qt2> drogoh: OOM'd?
[05:35] <Mizutsuki> I'm trying to instal a D-link DWL-G650 wifi PCMCIA card, and it isn't working, I'm a newb...
[05:35] <drogoh> qt2, Out of memory.
[05:35] <_jason> dunja:  if you want to reinstall then you need to remove your firefox packages and then reinstall them
[05:35] <jroes> qt2: out of memory
[05:35] <Mizutsuki> can anyone help?
[05:35] <sudonim> I am looking in the package manager for snes emulators - what is the difference between gsnes9x and snes9express. gsnes9x has a gnome front end and snes9express has a gtk+ front end. Which is better?
[05:35] <Blue1k> the full error is this:
[05:35] <bimberi> Mizutsuki: check to see if your card (and possibly instructions) is listed here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:35] <Blue1k> gimp-composite-mmx.c:94: error: unknown register name %mm0 in asm
[05:35] <MarkShark> Mizutsuki: What has happened so far?
[05:35] <thoreauputic> Mizutsuki: try telling us what you did, and what error messages you have
[05:35] <dunja> _jason, but it won't let me update to 1.07 and it won't even open
[05:35] <I-ninja> zzzzzzzzzzzz
[05:35] <Mizutsuki> bimberi - it is, but I don't understand the instructions
[05:35] <allisfree> you don't have the problem?
[05:35] <tritium> I-ninja, stop pasting that nonsense
[05:35] <qt2> ah, i see... well, running a game in wine and doing other stuff at the same time seems to be the main time stuff segfaults ^.^;
[05:35] <nmstryoda> _jason, dunja you might have bad chrome folder/extension... deleteing profile or starting Firefox with new clean profile might help
[05:36] <specialbuddy> how do I play .mov files on firefox
[05:36] <nmstryoda> firefox -ProfileManager
[05:36] <Mizutsuki> thoreau - no, no errors, it just doesn't work
[05:36] <dunja> _jason, sorry i am very very new at this, how can i do this? or how can i delete all firefox packages?
[05:36] <specialbuddy> how do I play .mov files on firefox?
[05:36] <thoreauputic> I-ninja: rather soon the ops patinece with you will rub out
[05:36] <sproingie> Blue1k: i dunno gas's nasty syntax, but i'm guessing that's a mmx register.  which SHOULD work on your cpu, but maybe it wants different syntax for it?
[05:36] <Blue1k> I compiled this source fine in hoary..can't do it in breezy though
[05:36] <nmstryoda> !tell specialbuddy about mplayer
[05:36] <specialbuddy> k
[05:36] <Mizutsuki> thoreau - though I have no idea how to install hardware in linux... I'm a complete newb
[05:36] <nmstryoda> !tell about repos
[05:36] <sproingie> Blue1k: this might be one of those times where a precompiled binary is good to start with
[05:36] <_jason> dunja pm
[05:36] <nmstryoda> !tell about specialbuddy about repos
[05:37] <nmstryoda> !tell specialbuddy about repos
[05:37] <nmstryoda> !repos
[05:37] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:37] <nmstryoda> dang it
[05:37] <Blue1k> ya true enough...I'll look for a deb
[05:37] <drogoh> Mizutsuki, Have you tried ndiswrapper?
[05:37] <nmstryoda> specialbuddy, look at that too.
[05:37] <I-ninja> Ubuntu is easy when u just wanna surf and chat but the installation method sucks! big time! debian installation suck!, ill rather have a distro who only use RPM its easy
[05:37] <Blue1k> weird thing is I just did it in Hoary :(
[05:37] <Mizutsuki> dragoh - what's that?
[05:37] <Blue1k> Breezy hates me
[05:37] <specialbuddy> I know how to do that
[05:37] <drogoh> I-ninja, It's only because you don't want to read.
[05:37] <qt2> drogoh: how would i check to see if something is OOMing?
[05:37] <nmstryoda> Blue-Box, nah.. it doesn't
[05:37] <dabaR> I-ninja: stop saying things like that if you want help.
[05:37] <Blue1k> oh..question
[05:37] <ksmurf> well installing java that way is not hard at all, if I can do it....
[05:37] <thoreauputic> Mizutsuki: try tab completing nicknames - I only saw your last post by accident
[05:37] <specialbuddy> I want to know why I can't see .mov on firefox
[05:38] <drogoh> qt2, Watch top.
[05:38] <drogoh> (for one)
[05:38] <nmstryoda> Blue1k, it's just still in development
[05:38] <ksmurf> do you have it linked?
[05:38] <Blue1k> can I use the deb package I made in hoary for gimpshop in breeazy
[05:38] <drogoh> And watch /var/log/messages too.
[05:38] <tritium> I-ninja, rpm is inferior
[05:38] <Blue1k> ya I know
[05:38] <nmstryoda> specialbuddy, you need the restricted formats
[05:38] <sproingie> tritium: let's not feed the trolls
[05:38] <Mizutsuki> thoreauputic - I think it's an issue in that there isn't a device in the /dev/ but I could be wrong
[05:38] <specialbuddy> what does that mean?
[05:38] <MadpilotPPC> I-ninja, Synaptic is hard to use? Really?
[05:38] <Mizutsuki> thoreauputic - the thing is that it looks like the drivers are in the kernal or whatever
[05:38] <tritium> sproingie, indeed ;)
[05:38] <I-ninja> yajh very hard
[05:39] <drogoh> MadpilotPPC, Pah, he wants people to spoon feed him.
[05:39] <I-ninja> cant understand how can i install wine out of it
[05:39] <nmstryoda> specialbuddy, look at that repository link above
[05:39] <I-ninja> so HARD! BIG TIME
[05:39] <I-ninja> dam it
[05:39] <Carolyn> Hey
[05:39] <Mizutsuki> this channel is maddeningly overfull
[05:39] <nmstryoda> !restrictedformats
[05:39] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[05:39] <nicotin> hi
[05:39] <Blue1k> bad to use the deb I made in hoary for breezy?
[05:39] <Carolyn> how are you guys doin?
[05:39] <nmstryoda> specialbuddy, see taht
[05:39] <tritium> I-ninja, last warning, really
[05:39] <thoreauputic> Mizutsuki: if you can find out the driver/ module name you can do "sudo modprobe <modulename> " to install it
[05:39] <nmstryoda> Carolyn, hello ... busy
[05:39] <nmstryoda> =)
[05:40] <Mizutsuki> thoreauputic - I don't know what any of that means
[05:40] <MarkShark> Bluekl: Breezy is using a whole new version of gcc that is very new. That
[05:40] <dabaR> I-ninja: to get help here, you need to know what exactly you want. Not for example, I want to play windows games. Not eevn I want to install wine. You need to ask questions like, where is wine? Universe. How can I enable Universe? It is shown here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto .
[05:40] <nmstryoda> ok thanks dabaR
[05:40] <I-ninja> tritium just tell me how do u install and play games on ur Ubuntu no more dam sites that u gave to me
[05:40] <allisfree> strange thing. i enabled the "caps lock", but when i hit the key "e", it still lower in console. other key seems correct
[05:40] <specialbuddy> I already added repositories
[05:40] <_jason> dunja:  still there?
[05:40] <Blue1k> ya I know..I installed 3.4 as well
[05:40] <MarkShark> Bluekl: For that reason, it's not that surprising that it would work in Hoary, but not Breezy.
[05:40] <drogoh> Hm.
[05:40] <qt2> well, no sign of OOMs...
[05:40] <nicotin> someone speak spanish?
[05:41] <nmstryoda> tritium, thanks
[05:41] <tritium> I-ninja, don't be insistent and rude.  You need to read the help we give you.
[05:41] <Blue1k> I guess I could try my package in breezy and see what happens
[05:41] <tritium> If you can't help yourself, we can't help you either.
[05:41] <sdali> Does anyone know if I can copy my cached packages to another Ubuntu box, and edit the sources.list file so it won't have to re-download them from the internet?
[05:41] <nmstryoda> !tell nicotin es
[05:41] <drogoh> The ndiswrapper list shows the DWL-G650 as supported.
[05:41] <Hikaru79> How can I create my own mime-type?  How can I setup a new MIME type, anyone?
[05:41] <thoreauputic> !es
[05:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:41] <Mizutsuki> drogoh - yeah, that's what's confusing me... it's not working
[05:41] <Hikaru79> !mime
[05:41] <ubotu> Hikaru79: Are you smoking crack?
[05:41] <Blue1k> thanks guys...I'll try my deb and see if it works
[05:41] <sdali> And BTW, where are the cached pkgs kept?
[05:41] <drogoh> Ah, hm.
[05:41] <MarkShark> sdali: I've never tried it, but I think it would work.
[05:41] <tritium> /var/cache/apt/archives, sdali
[05:42] <narg> sdali: apt-cache? :p
[05:42] <sdali> thnks
[05:42] <Carolyn> I just got the 5.10 version of UBUNTU
[05:42] <specialbuddy> I just want to know how to see .mov files on firefox
[05:42] <dabaR> woohoo...:-/
[05:42] <sdali> I'll man apt-cache. Thx
[05:42] <nmstryoda> Carolyn, as in downloaded?
[05:42] <tritium> Carolyn, a pre-release, actually
[05:42] <Carolyn> mailed I'm checkin it out
[05:42] <nmstryoda> cool
[05:42] <nmstryoda> Breezy is pretty nice
[05:42] <Carolyn> this is a pre release?
[05:42] <allisfree> Someone?
[05:42] <nmstryoda> er, yes
[05:42] <Sonny_Wertzik> anoyine know where i can get some new GRUB boot screens besides gnome-look
[05:42] <jbroome> yes
[05:42] <nalioth> Carolyn: until oct 13, yes
[05:42] <dabaR> Carolyn: are you sure you got a 5.10 in the mail?
[05:43] <specialbuddy> what's the difference between breezy and the one now
[05:43] <Carolyn> yeah I"m pretty sure I got it in the mail
[05:43] <tritium> breezy is the new one, specialbuddy
[05:43] <tritium> Carolyn, breezy has not mailed to anyone
[05:43] <specialbuddy> I know that, tritium
[05:43] <thrice`> Carolyn, impossible =]
[05:43] <Carolyn> I opened the package :)
[05:43] <specialbuddy> I just want to know what's special about it
[05:43] <allisfree> tritium: strange thing. i enabled the "caps lock", but when i hit the key "e", it still lower in console. other key seems correct
[05:43] <Carolyn> somehow it is
[05:43] <nmstryoda> Carolyn, what color is the packaging?
[05:43] <tritium> gnome 2.12, for starters, specialbuddy
[05:43] <WebLOCH> allo
[05:44] <tritium> allisfree, that's just crazy, dude
[05:44] <specialbuddy> what else
[05:44] <dabaR> hey
[05:44] <nmstryoda> WebLOCH, heyya
[05:44] <thom_> hello
[05:44] <Carolyn> the intel one is red with five clothed people
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Carolyn: did you order from another supplier or through Ubuntu itself?
[05:44] <Blue1k> anyone from Vancouver area..me and Rule are putting together a release party or night out
[05:44] <nmstryoda> ah, 5.04... Hoary
[05:44] <Carolyn> the AMD one is yellow with the same five clothed people
[05:44] <thom_> can someone offer me a tip
[05:44] <Carolyn> Ubuntu itself
[05:44] <calc> thom_: don't take candy from strangers :)
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Carolyn: sounds like 5.04
[05:44] <thrice`> thom_, not if you don't ask a question
[05:44] <nmstryoda> right... discs are red for i386
[05:44] <Carolyn> ohhhhh
[05:44] <Carolyn> my bad it is
[05:44] <Carolyn> :/
[05:44] <nmstryoda> np
[05:44] <Sonny_Wertzik> Clothed hehehehe
[05:44] <thoreauputic> Carolyn: OK
[05:45] <specialbuddy> where can I read about the changes in breezy
[05:45] <dooglus> allisfree: if you run a "vi" in the console, and type stuff with capslock on, save the file, then view it in gnome, is the 'e' still small?
[05:45] <Carolyn> I was thinking of the article I read on Slashdot early this morning about Ubuntu 5.10
[05:45] <specialbuddy> and how can I watch .mov files with firefox
[05:45] <nmstryoda> Carolyn, easy upgrade though to pre-release breezy
[05:45] <Carolyn> I hope they send me that too!
[05:45] <thom_> i got colony cd 5 installed
[05:45] <dabaR> specialbuddy: read the forums on the diffs.
[05:45] <dooglus> specialbuddy: nothing much changed
[05:45] <hjk57> i tried the upgrade, and wasn't too happy
[05:45] <nmstryoda> Carolyn, you have to place order for that
[05:45] <specialbuddy> ok
[05:45] <thom_> notebook with nvidia works great
[05:45] <hjk57> fresh install of breezy was much better for me
[05:45] <Carolyn> oh more orders for it?
[05:45] <Carolyn> cool
[05:45] <nmstryoda> thom_, yea
[05:45] <nmstryoda> yup
[05:45] <specialbuddy> does mandriva use .rpm
[05:46] <thoreauputic> tritium: I thought people from New Mexico were loco anyway ? /me runs
[05:46] <linner> nalioth: tritium: aftertaf: thoreauputic: hey guys :)
[05:46] <tritium> dooglus, there are lots of improvements
[05:46] <nmstryoda> specialbuddy, yes
[05:46] <dabaR> does specialbuddy use google?
[05:46] <thoreauputic> hi linner :)
[05:46] <Blue1k> yes to mandriva
[05:46] <linner> :)
[05:46] <neotrophy> I have a problem with KDM.  When I log in, it starts a brings up a blank, grey X session, then drops back to the login prompt.  GDM work fine (execpt that it doesn't seem to be able to remember my last session type)
[05:46] <thom_> i installed the special packages which gave me older kernel headers as dependencies i think
[05:46] <nmstryoda> linner, any luck?
[05:46] <Sonny_Wertzik> anoyine know where i can get some new GRUB boot screens besides gnome-look?
[05:46] <dooglus> tritium: yes, but nothing major.
[05:46] <allisfree> no, i can input upcase E with shift+e
[05:46] <linner> that wasn't very nice tritium
[05:46] <linner> :)
[05:46] <Carolyn> Ah well
[05:46] <dooglus> the biggest thing you'll notice probably is that office apps take about twice as long to start up
[05:46] <tritium> dooglus, laptop support is quite improved, dooglus
[05:46] <thom_> how can i best get the older kernel out of grub and out of src/
[05:46] <tritium> thoreauputic, heh :)
[05:47] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:47] <Carolyn> I am still in the process of dual booting Windows with Fedora core 4
[05:47] <nmstryoda> dooglus, really? mine are faster now with latest patches in breezy
[05:47] <WebLOCH> Sonny_Wertzik, how are you applying them?
[05:47] <specialbuddy> why is .rpm so easy
[05:47] <dooglus> tritium: is it?  I ran hoary and breezy on the same laptop and they're both fine, tritium
[05:47] <tritium> thoreauputic, by the way, you might have a point ;)
[05:47] <dooglus> nmstryoda: I don't run them often.
[05:47] <Hobbsee> tritium: really?  i didnt notice it when i upgraded, then came back
[05:47] <nmstryoda> k
[05:47] <thrice`> which udev does ubuntu plan to ship with ?
[05:47] <thoreauputic> tritium: hahah :D
[05:47] <thom_> hoary would not install ever on my vaio
[05:47] <tritium> dooglus, Hobbsee, yes
[05:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> WebLOCH, im not sure what u mean?
[05:47] <nmstryoda> well breezy is sweet on my 2 laptops
[05:47] <thrice`> 070 is acting weird
[05:47] <nmstryoda> new and old tech
[05:47] <Mizutsuki> I was wondering if there was anyway that ubuntu supports my laptop's s-video out?
[05:47] <thom_> but breezy works real good
[05:48] <WebLOCH> Sonny_Wertzik, how are you applying the splash screens, Upower?  Splashy?
[05:48] <Hobbsee> triium: guess you've given me a reason to upgrade then...
[05:48] <Blue1k> breezy works fine on my widescreen Compaq
[05:48] <Carolyn> well
[05:48] <rob^> WebLOCH, just theme usplash
[05:48] <Carolyn> I am excited about it anyhow
[05:48] <tritium> Hobbsee, cool
[05:48] <nmstryoda> Mizutsuki, does it have a nice video card?... my ATI on my old dell works
[05:48] <Blue1k> ok..my gimpshop deb I made in hoary kicks ass in breezy
[05:48] <Carolyn> I was hoping there would be more stuff on this Ubuntu disc
[05:48] <Sonny_Wertzik> WebLOCH, um ...i guess while all the drivers and stuff are loading
[05:48] <Hobbsee> shoot...how do it do that with the debs of openoffice beta 130?
[05:48] <Blue1k> problem solved
[05:48] <thom_> anyone: can synaptic remove the older kernel from grub and the file ??
[05:48] <Hobbsee> can i remove them?
[05:48] <nmstryoda> Blue-Box, is it better than Gimp?
[05:48] <dooglus> specialbuddy: this page is good for seeing what's new in breezy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals?highlight=%28breezy%29
[05:48] <rob^> Carolyn, as it is the cd is full up
[05:48] <nmstryoda> or just new face?
[05:48] <WebLOCH> rob^, yeah i installed it a few days ago
[05:49] <Sonny_Wertzik> WebLOCH, is that what splashy means?
[05:49] <Mizutsuki> nmstryoda - not sure, it's an IBM thinkpad T22
[05:49] <rob^> nmstryoda, just a nre face
[05:49] <JonnyRo> Is there any specific reason why there are 352 updates waiting after a fresh install of breezy?  is there a new CD out that already has the updates?
[05:49] <WebLOCH> rob^, but I changed kernel and now I cant find it/install i
[05:49] <rob^> new even..
[05:49] <Blue1k> not better just has the interface of Photoshop
[05:49] <nmstryoda> rob^, cool
[05:49] <thoreauputic> !tell Carolyn about synaptic
[05:49] <Carolyn> rob, live CD
[05:49] <specialbuddy> thanx, dooglus
[05:49] <calc> JonnyRo: breezy isn't released yet
[05:49] <adamh> I don't have color ink. How can I print a PDF in grayscale, even though my printer (Canon S520) is color?
[05:49] <thoreauputic> !tell Carolyn about docs
[05:49] <Blue1k> JonnyRo its because its in dev
[05:49] <Strog> JonnyRo: breezy is a moving target.  Trying to connect to another computer, but don;t know how to work it
[05:50] <lawman> whats everone think of ubuntu?   Just loaded it
[05:50] <neotrophy> adamh: S520 is a bitch to get working well.
[05:50] <thrice`> hrm...breezy is using some ollld stuff
[05:50] <thrice`> i hope it updates udev
[05:50] <nmstryoda> !remotedesktop
[05:50] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, nmstryoda
[05:50] <thrice`> and grub
[05:50] <tritium> lawman, it rocks!
[05:50] <nmstryoda> grrr
[05:50] <adamh> neotrophy: It works perfectly for me, except I don't actually *have* color ink :P
[05:50] <Carolyn> I like the Intro music to Ubuntu
[05:50] <JonnyRo> are there nightly snapshots out?
[05:50] <lawman> Im loving it too......wireless rocks!!
[05:50] <adamh> Could ghostscript perhaps convert a colour PDF to grayscale?
[05:50] <rob^> transparentdream, System -> Preferences -> Remote desktpo
[05:50] <JonnyRo> either way, in the short term i'll set up a proxy, so i can not have to download these updates for every machine
[05:50] <adamh> (It's late, I need to just print this and sleep)
[05:50] <rob^> pfft my typing sucks today
[05:50] <Blue1k> if anyone wants to try gimpshop I can send it to you...it works for me in hoary and breezy...so much nicer than standard gimp
[05:50] <thrice`> JonnyRo, well, snapshot 5 was JUST out (like today or yesterday)
[05:50] <neotrophy> adamh: so long as you don't mind 600x600dpi resolution
[05:50] <thrice`> the RC's are soon to come
[05:51] <thom_> Carolyn: what music?
[05:51] <dabaR> annoying scrolling channel
[05:51] <transparentdream> rob^, my friend and i's thing says the same thing
[05:51] <JonnyRo> thrice`, thanks, i'll download the new ISO, this cd is from about 4 days ago
[05:51] <linner> rob^ : are you the same rob that I spoke to this morning?
[05:51] <rob^> linner, probably..
[05:51] <thrice`> JonnyRo, if you've got it installed, just update
[05:51] <linner> rob^: do you recognize my nick?
[05:51] <Blue1k> ya..update works fine
[05:51] <rob^> transparentdream, you have to enable it first
[05:51] <dooglus> does anyone know how to build libraries?
[05:51] <calc> JonnyRo: i have 66 updated packages from just today on my machine (upgraded yesterday too)
[05:51] <bacon> id like to see it bluelk
[05:51] <linner> rob^: we talked about my system clock all haywire...
[05:52] <neotrophy> I have a problem with KDM.  When I log in, it starts a brings up a blank, grey X session, then drops back to the login prompt.  GDM work fine (execpt that it doesn't seem to be able to remember my last session type).  Anyone got any ideas?
[05:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> WebLOCH, ya still there?
[05:52] <JonnyRo> calc, thrice` , will do
[05:52] <transparentdream> rob^, it is enabled
[05:52] <tritium> linner, Burgundavia is having that problem too
[05:52] <specialbuddy> can you play .mov files on ubuntu
[05:52] <Blue1k> sure..I'll upload it to my webspace...PM me for the link
[05:52] <JonnyRo> OpenOffice 2 is a nice addition
[05:52] <linner> tritium: really?  mine's still not working right
[05:52] <JonnyRo> any news on the Totem sound issues?
[05:52] <calc> specialbuddy: totem-xine can play just about anything
[05:52] <JonnyRo> did that get resolved in this release?
[05:52] <calc> totem-gstreamer is more limited in what it can play
[05:52] <thoreauputic> !tell specialbuddy about restricted
[05:53] <transparentdream> rob^, how do I actualy ececute the remote desktop program?
[05:53] <rob^> transparentdream, then use Applications -> Internet -> Terminal server client
[05:53] <specialbuddy> k
[05:53] <thoreauputic> tritium: I saw it long ago as a kid :)
[05:53] <thechris> so, installed ubuntu today. gdm crashes...
[05:53] <thechris> any easy fix
[05:53] <tritium> thoreauputic, you've been here?  cool!
[05:53] <transparentdream> rob^, thanks! but what do I do now...
[05:53] <thoreauputic> tritium: I'd like to ski Taos though ;)
[05:54] <Blue1k> reinstall it thechris...
[05:54] <tritium> thoreauputic, well, you're always welcome :)
[05:54] <thoreauputic> tritium: hottest chili I ever tasted *grin*
[05:54] <dabaR> Blue1k: you know this will help?
[05:54] <tritium> thoreauputic, definitely :)
[05:54] <rob^> transparentdream, just stick in the ip address, a username and password and any other details you need then click connect
[05:54] <Blue1k> eh?
[05:54] <adamh> How can I convert a PDF to grayscale?
[05:54] <Arkainium> tritium, the problem was HAL.  I think it introduces more problems than it solves.  :/
[05:54] <thechris> Blue1k: its a fresh install
[05:54] <dabaR> Blue1k: have you tried this before? do you hyave any reason to believe it will work?
[05:54] <Blue1k> yes
[05:54] <tritium> Arkainium, no kidding?  Not hdc?
[05:55] <transparentdream> rob^, does the ip address go in computer name? what username and password should i use? What should my friend do on his computer to accept the connection?
[05:55] <Blue1k> I had the same thing and instead of troubleshooting I reinstalled..worked
[05:55] <Blue1k> did you check MD5
[05:55] <dabaR> Blue1k: really? ok.
[05:55] <vinboy> what other fancy things can I do with ubuntu?
[05:55] <JonnyRo> tritium, where you from?
[05:55] <JonnyRo> tritium, i grew up in Pena blanca, NM
[05:55] <tritium> JonnyRo, Albuquerque
[05:55] <JonnyRo> between santa fe and albuquerque
[05:55] <Arkainium> tritium, apparently HAL is polling hdc too early and that's what's causing the interrupt.  Who knows?  :P  But by disabling hal, everything works flawlessly.
[05:55] <linner> tritium: how did the other time problem get resolved?
[05:56] <tritium> Cool, JonnyRo :)
[05:56] <JonnyRo> tritium, i went to saint pius high school, class '99
[05:56] <drogoh> vinboy, You can play Global Thermonuclear War.
[05:56] <Blue1k> dabar..may have a corrupted install
[05:56] <tritium> linner, not sure that it did.
[05:56] <linner> crap
[05:56] <rob^> transparentdream, yes, and use a username/password from the remote system
[05:56] <vinboy> drogoh, really? where can i get it
[05:56] <dabaR> thechris: whats the graphics card?
[05:56] <tritium> JonnyRo, no way.  I did too, class of 1992
[05:56] <transparentdream> ok thank you rob^!
[05:56] <rob^> np
[05:56] <drogoh> vinboy, Your local arms cache.
[05:56] <drogoh> ;/
[05:57] <drogoh> vinboy, Seriously, world domination is possible with Linux.
[05:57] <thechris> dabaR: nvidia 6800
[05:57] <adamh> ah, found it: pdf2ps -sDEVICE=psgray -r300 input.pdf
[05:57] <drogoh> You only need two things: /bin/tcsh and /usr/bin/perl
[05:57] <Blue1k> food time...
[05:57] <dabaR> thechris: how does gdm crash? do you ever get to the part where you type a user name?
[05:58] <atty> how to install sun-j2re1.5?
[05:58] <rob^> !java
[05:58] <ubotu> java is probably to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:58] <bacon> atty -> The package misteriously disappeared from backports repository it seems
[05:58] <transparentdream> rob^, should i just put the ip address or some extenstion too?
[05:58] <dabaR> atty: do you have a file on your computer called that?
[05:58] <rob^> just the ip
[05:58] <thechris> dabaR: i can log in, but gnome never loads (it crashed)
[05:58] <atty> nope
[05:58] <bacon> i can give you a manuel way to install the jre
[05:58] <thechris> dabaR: and if i click anything it crashes
[05:59] <thechris> dabaR: the keyboard stops responding but the mouse still works
[05:59] <dabaR> thechris: so you get that little message box saying it crashed in less than 1- secs?
[05:59] <rob^> the manual way to install java is on that page
[05:59] <atty> i did try try sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[05:59] <ShagWill> hi
[05:59] <transparentdream> ok
[05:59] <atty> but say coldn't find package
[05:59] <ShagWill> does ubuntu is bootable from a firewire disk on a mac ?
[05:59] <dabaR> atty: it is not installable through synaptic atm, unless you have some weird repiository enabled. read that page to see what you can find.
[05:59] <thoreauputic> !tell atty about sunjava
[05:59] <thechris> dabaR: nope
[06:00] <sudonim> ShagWill: It should be :)
[06:00] <eagleye> anyone know how to run a .asf streaming video
[06:00] <thoreauputic> !sunjava
[06:00] <sudonim> ShagWill: Do you know how to tell the mac to boot from a firewire drive?
[06:00] <ubotu> For Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)
[06:00] <rob^> have a look at the page and see for yourself..
[06:00] <dabaR> thechris: what, the gdm screen shows up, asking you for user name and password, right?
[06:00] <esac> what can i install to play pcm-coded .wav files ? i tried installing every gstreamer plugin with no luck, and aplay doesnt play them either
[06:00] <ShagWill> sudonim: I just tried with Gentoo distro but I'm having difficulties
[06:00] <Bicchi> i have a usb pen drive that doesn't want to mount. i even think its not even been detected at all. how do i troubleshoot it?
[06:00] <sudonim> ShagWill: I believe you have to hold down Apple-T when the computer is booting up.
[06:01] <rob^> ouch, Seveas shouldn't be offering his own packages for things
[06:01] <atty> brb
[06:01] <atty> want to try ubotu style
[06:01] <ShagWill> sudonim: it will boot as a firewire slave mode
[06:01] <transparentdream> rob^, why isn;t it working? Do i need special ports disabled in my firewall?
[06:01] <linner> !ndiswrapper
[06:01] <ubotu> methinks ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:01] <thechris> dabaR: yes.  i get gdm up.  but clicking anything, or loging in will cause a crash
[06:01] <rob^> transparentdream, could be any number of things like that
[06:02] <eagleye> Does anyone know how to run a .asf streaming video, Can anyone help
[06:02] <rob^> transparentdream, just play around with the settings
[06:02] <dabaR> thechris: what does the crash do, any error messages?
[06:02] <bacon> btw anybody knows why the jre packages are gone?
[06:03] <tritium> legal reasons
[06:03] <drogoh> eagleye, mplayer plugin?
[06:03] <chris__> i have a blitzz wireless super g router that works fine in windows, but i cannot connect  to gaim or x-chat in ubuntu can anyone help ?
[06:03] <thechris> dabaR: when i tried to set session to "gnome" the option "gnome" stayed pressed in.  and then it was like moving the mouse over a screenshot -- couldn't click anything and kbd didn't respond, not even capslock
[06:04] <whyameye> eagleeye, does totem-xine play them?
[06:04] <sudonim> ShagWill: doing a quick google search looks like you need YaBoot
[06:04] <rob^> !java
[06:04] <ubotu> from memory, java is to install Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:05] <esac> what can i install to play pcm-coded .wav files ? i tried installing every gstreamer plugin with no luck, and aplay doesnt play them either
[06:05] <rob^> ubotu no java is to install Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-55315677ab8f9890825549fa2ecebdde4bc68087
[06:05] <ubotu> okay, rob^
[06:05] <capiCrimm> What is my .emacs file(where can i find it)?
[06:06] <rob^> !sunjava
[06:06] <ubotu> For Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)
[06:06] <rob^> ubotu no sunjava is for instructions on installing Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:06] <ubotu> okay, rob^
[06:07] <dabaR> capiCrimm: a .something file is usually a config file of some sort. they are also known as hidden files, and nautilus, or even ls in a terminal does not show them. how often do you use a teminal?
[06:07] <dabaR> rob^: dont do that
[06:07] <dabaR> rob^: or, better, why did you do that?
[06:07] <rob^> because its more correct
[06:08] <dabaR> says you.
[06:08] <capiCrimm> dabaR, I'm fine with a terminal. I'm just not sure what they want by .emacs, I'massuming something in /etc/emacs*?
[06:08] <predius_> can anyone help me setting up a dual head on xorg?
[06:08] <rob^> you shouldn't tell people to install unofficial debian packages
[06:08] <dabaR> now we have two things same name
[06:08] <hari`> So /usr/share/dict/words points to a dangling alternatives symlink.  Is there a proper dpkg fix, or just bang some illicit copy into the right spot?
[06:09] <whyameye> capiCrimm, I would have guessed that .emacs would be in your home directory.
[06:09] <rob^> you should be pointing people to the correct reference on the wiki
[06:09] <transparentdream> What's a very easy remote desktop application to use besides ubuntu's??
[06:09] <dabaR> capiCrimm: open a temrinal, use ls -a and see whether you have a .emacs there
[06:09] <dabaR> rob^: ok.
[06:09] <rob^> pretty simple really dabaR
[06:10] <whyameye> capiCrimm: type ls -al in your home directory and see if it is there...
[06:10] <capiCrimm> dabaR, not in /etc or /home, I did a locate found a few files w/ .emacs extension but no .emacs file?
[06:10] <thom_> hey where are the kernels located?
[06:11] <eagleye> Does anyone know how to run a .aspx streaming video, Can anyone help
[06:11] <dabaR> capiCrimm: where did you get this? this maybe a preference file for emacs...like, you wont have a .exrc file in your ~, but if you make one, vi will use it.
[06:11] <capiCrimm> thom_, http://kernel.org/
[06:11] <whyameye> it would be in /home/capiCrimm (or whatever your username on your box is), or the shortcut is ~. So type cd ~ , then type ls -al.
[06:11] <thom_> i mean in file system?
[06:11] <thom_> i need to remove it
[06:11] <dabaR> hehe
[06:11] <dabaR> thom_: youre gona remove your kernel?
[06:11] <thom_> yep
[06:12] <dabaR> do you know what a kernel does?
[06:12] <hari`> whyameye: capiCrimm:  (ls -ld ~/.emacs*)
[06:12] <thom_> i run without them
[06:12] <jedi> what is the best way to install jdk 1.5 on breezy?
[06:12] <rob^> ubotu tell jedi about java
[06:12] <tritium> jedi, use the force
[06:12] <thom_> i got the newer one there so there are 2
[06:13] <dabaR> a kernel is the part of your operating system that interfaces with your shell, and with the hardware. you have to use one. anyhow, when you boot, it will ask you which of the installed kernels you want to boot.
[06:13] <thom_> at least grub lists 2 version numbers
[06:13] <capiCrimm> hari` no such file, dabdaR so just make a .emacs file? following...
[06:13] <capiCrimm> http://www.hpcf.upr.edu/~humberto/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi the SLIME part
[06:13] <thom_> well im on breezy and i did the nvidia upgrade.
[06:13] <hari`> capiCrimm, you don't NEED a .emacs file, but if someone's suggesting things to go in one, then you can create one.
[06:14] <thom_> the latest kernel is broken with that
[06:14] <jedi> cheers rob^
[06:14] <vladuz976> anybody here know how i can use Xnest i get the error that server is already running on display 0
[06:14] <dabaR> capiCrimm: what editor do you like? gedit is fine?
[06:14] <hari`> capiCrimm, best way to learn emacs is to CAREFULLY READ the text that shows up when you start emacs.
[06:14] <dabaR> vladuz976: how are you trying to use it? do you use gnome?
[06:14] <hari`> So /usr/share/dict/words points to a dangling alternatives symlink.  I've googled other complaints about this, but no proper fix.  Is there a proper dpkg fix, or just bang some illicit copy into the right spot?
[06:15] <vladuz976> dabaR, dabaR i am in gnome now yes, and i started from the terminal
[06:15] <capiCrimm> dabaR, I'm normally a vim guy, just wanted to know if .emacs was what I thought it was. Thanks.
[06:15] <dabaR> vladuz976: you have installed xnest?
[06:15] <vladuz976> dabaR, yes
[06:15] <vladuz976> dabaR, just installed it
[06:15] <dabaR> vladuz976: Apps>System TOols>New login in nested window
[06:16] <dooglus> hari`: breezy?  hoary?
[06:16] <dabaR> vladuz976: || gdmflexiserver --xnest
[06:16] <thom_> dabaR: i installed nvidia upgrade with synaptics not apt. It downloaded an earlier kernel dependency
[06:16] <hari`> dooglus, hoary.
[06:17] <dooglus> hari`: I don't know then, sorry.
[06:17] <thom_> on breezy here
[06:17] <vladuz976> dabaR, and then how can i use gdb to debug? i am trying to find out what's going on with my other wm
[06:17] <thom_> i cant seem to find the kernels. isnt it usr/src/linux
[06:17] <dabaR> vladuz976: this is something very diff from your initial question, ask the channel.
[06:18] <nibblesmx> can anyone tell me how can i change the bootsplash in breezy?
[06:18] <dooglus> thom_: the kernel SOURCE would be in /usr/src if you installed it, but you don't have to
[06:18] <thom_> well i kind of do.
[06:18] <vladuz976> anybody know how i can use gdb and Xnest to debug my other wm?
[06:18] <dooglus> ok, so install it
[06:18] <thom_> i got 2 different versions in there
[06:18] <thom_> im just cleaning
[06:19] <thom_> only one works with nvidia
[06:19] <dabaR> thom_: you are cute....but thats wrong!
[06:19] <dooglus> usually /usr/src/linux is a symbolic link
[06:19] <thom_> what?
[06:19] <dabaR> hehe, thats a 2 stupid dogs reference.
[06:19] <dabaR> I got my first glasses today.
[06:20] <bacon> The HD spindown time on laptop battery mode is 12 seconds... does anybody agree with me it's way too quick?
[06:20] <dabaR> I am not sure yet whether I se better, or worse with them.
[06:20] <thom_> i have 6 entries in grub
[06:20] <hari`> dooglus, to what does your breezy /usr/share/dict/words point?
[06:20] <dabaR> thom_: wanna see mine?
[06:20] <thom_> 4 for kernels.
[06:20] <dooglus> /usr/share/dict/words -> /etc/dictionaries-common/words
[06:20] <hari`> bacon, not if you turn off amode writes.
[06:21] <dooglus> hari`: and /etc/dictionaries-common/words -> /usr/share/dict/british-english
[06:21] <thom_> its just that i am using one xorg.conf correct?
[06:21] <hari`> Hrm.
[06:21] <hari`> dooglus, thanks.
[06:21] <dooglus> hari`: and -rw-r--r--  1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-06-20 05:23 /usr/share/dict/british-english
[06:21] <satafterh> anyone know a program to convert divx to dvd
[06:21] <hari`> Yeah, as expected.  How can I tell what .deb created a given file?
[06:22] <dooglus> hari`: apt-file search <particular file>
[06:22] <thom_> im on 2.6.12-9-386
[06:22] <thom_> with nvidia packages
[06:22] <bimberi> hari`: or use the contents search on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:22] <thom_> its srewed up
[06:23] <hari`> dooglus, heh, it doesn't consider apt-file to be important enough to install by default?
[06:23] <thom_> The upgrade is for the older kernel so i had to compile it myself
[06:23] <dooglus> hari`: no.
[06:24] <dooglus> hari`: once you've installed it, do a "sudo apt-file update" to download the information it needs
[06:25] <hari`> dooglus, ugh.  this is the kind of stuff where I think rpm was simpler.  But thanks for your help learning apt.
[06:25] <thom_> at least badger installed correctly
[06:26] <dooglus> you're welcome hari`  little secret: I have "rpm style" aliases for all of these...  for example, alias urpmf='apt-file search'
[06:26] <thom_> pcmcia for notebooks is fixed somewhat
[06:27] <chemisus> well
[06:27] <chemisus> im guessing its googles 7th birthday today heh
[06:27] <Hobbsee> chemisus: yep, looks like it
[06:28] <whyameye> Firefox keeps mysteriously disappearing while I am browsing. I'm in Firefox, and I hit the back button and suddenly it is gone. Is this a known bug?
[06:28] <hari`> dooglus, if I wanted to remove dictionaries-common and reinstall it (hoping it would notice my now-specified locale), how would I do that?  I can't just -r due to dependencies.
[06:29] <dooglus> apt notices your locale?
[06:30] <hari`> If I read the complaints from various google whine sources, it looks like the problem arose because hoary installs stuff without actually establishing the locale until later.
[06:30] <hari`> dooglus, thus, your alternative is british-english, but mine would be something else.
[06:31] <dooglus> hari`: can't you just install language-pack-??
[06:31] <dooglus> (where ?? is your locale)
[06:31] <hari`> I dunno, what is yours?  en_GB?
[06:31] <dooglus> language-pack-cs and language-pack-en
[06:32] <dooglus> alias urpmq='apt-cache search'
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:32] <hari`> What would give you british-english, then?
[06:32] <dooglus> i think it's in the dependancies
[06:32] <hari`> As I'd want american-english (en-us).
[06:32] <hari`> language-pack-en is already the newest version.
[06:33] <dooglus> get language-pack-en and I think that gets you both british and american.
[06:33] <dooglus> oh.
[06:33] <chris__> why is it that after approx. 24 hours my dns is restto<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:33] <BlankB> !beginners guide
[06:33] <ubotu> BlankB: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:33] <BlankB> !guide
[06:33] <ubotu> I don't know, BlankB
[06:33] <dooglus> so install 'wamerican'?
[06:33] <cafuego_> chris__: Are you overwriting resolv.conf manually?
[06:34] <cafuego_> wamerican contains incorrect spellings of words, don't use it.
[06:34] <chris__> no
[06:34] <cafuego_> chris__: Using dhcp?
[06:34] <calc> cafuego_: wbritish does too :)
[06:34] <BlankB> !User Guide
[06:34] <ubotu> BlankB: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[06:34] <chris__> yes
[06:34] <hari`> BlankB, try /msg ?
[06:34] <BlankB> 8)
[06:34] <cafuego_> chris__: Then I imagine the lease is renewed after 24 hours and the dhcp server tells you amchine to sue <IP_ADDRESS> as DNS.
[06:35] <tristanmike> BlankB, what is it you're looking for?
[06:35] <hari`> dooglus, okay, that gave the american-english file, and fixed the symlink.  Thanks.
[06:35] <bacon> *tells your machine to use* that is
[06:35] <calc> cafuego_: if that is the case he can edit the dhcp conf file to override what he is being sent (afaicr)
[06:35] <chris__> i can surf the web but i cannot connect to gaim or x-chat without manually putting back the dns numbers
[06:35] <dooglus> but according to cafuego_, it's got some misspellings.
[06:35] <cafuego_> calc: Either that or edit resolv.conf and chattr +i it
[06:35] <calc> dooglus: british and american english do not spell words the same
[06:35] <BlankB> sorry...was just looking to see ubuntu had the equiv for gnome like kde has on the "KDE user guide"
[06:36] <calc> cafuego_: yea
[06:36] <dooglus> calc: I know!
[06:36] <eagleye> Does anyone know how to run a .aspx streaming video, Can anyone help
[06:36] <dooglus> calc: was that the point?  you shouldn't use wamerican 'cos it misses the 'u' out of 'colour'?
[06:36] <cafuego_> dooglus: Yes, it sues 'z' where it should be using 's' - that sort of error. makes the people who used it to spell-check look a bit simple.
[06:36] <calc> iirc it was because british english evolved and american english did not (or at least is the case for some of the differences)
[06:36] <nalioth> eagleye: Microsoft Streaming Server
[06:36] <tristanmike> BlankB, what is the KDE user guide?
[06:36] <calc> dooglus: probably ;)
[06:36] <dooglus> cafuego_: not simple, just american
[06:36] <cafuego_> dooglus: That's what I said.
 dooglus: Yes, it sues [sic]  'z' where it should be using 's' - that sort of error. makes the people who used it to spell-check look a bit simple.
[06:37] <hari`> ;)
[06:37] <chris__> what lease are you talking about
[06:37] <dooglus> heh
[06:37] <BlankB> tristanmike: Its like an overview of how to do everything.  Kinda like a beginners guide to the gui.
[06:37] <dooglus> I'm English, and the missing 'u' in 'colour' and other such stuff annoyz me too.
[06:37] <tristanmike> BlankB, do you have a website that I can look at?
[06:37] <cafuego_> chris__: The dhcp lease. When the dhcp server gives you an address, that's called a lease. They expire after a set amount of time.
[06:37] <matrix> look who's back (H)
[06:37] <cafuego_> dooglus: other zuch ztuff?
[06:38] <dooglus> yez
[06:38] <calc> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_differences
[06:38] <BlankB> tristanmike: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/index.html
[06:38] <chris__> but in windows i dont have this problem
[06:38] <dooglus> the absense of adverbs affects me particular bad.
[06:38] <calc> dooglus: fwiw color in american english isn't pronounced with a u either
[06:39] <cafuego_> calc: it IS in english, not in american english.
[06:39] <dooglus> I was glad to see Locke correcting Kate in Lost last week when she used an adjective in place of an adverb.
[06:39] <tristanmike> BlankB, maybe this is the equivalent http://www.gnome.org/learn/
[06:39] <calc> The -ise forms became more widespread in British English under 19th-century French influence, partly displacing the older -ize
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> "Lollies, Lollies, Lollies, get your adverbs here..."
[06:40] <calc> seems britian disliked the colonies splitting away so changed their language ;)
[06:40] <calc> without changing the name, heh
[06:40] <BlankB> tristanmike: thanks. That is exactly what I was looking for.
[06:41] <cafuego_> No, they just didn't stagnate. Languages ALWAYS change.
[06:41] <tristanmike> BlankB, ;) I have to say thanx too cause I really like that KDE page too.
[06:41] <elkbuntu> oh come on people, if we were to try and satisfy everyone's linguistic fetishes in this channel, every time we say something, it'd take an hour to write up in all the languages and dialects within the languages. it's ridiculous...
[06:42] <matrix> ok where's the file manager in ubuntu ?
[06:42] <dooglus> matrix: in the 'places' menu.
[06:42] <dooglus> places -> computer, for example
[06:42] <tristanmike> or System tools
[06:42] <tristanmike> matrix, *
[06:42] <matrix> kk ty
[06:42] <tristanmike> matrix, Applications-->System Tools-->File Browser
[06:43] <matrix> now tell me how to create a dir for my windows partition so i can mount it there :)
[06:43] <dooglus> tristanmike: I wouldn't get too used to using that menu entry :)
[06:43] <_jason> anyone know how to make the applets in gnome have a transparent background?  I make the panel transparent but the applets are still opaque.
[06:43] <elkbuntu> you forgot the magic words, matrix
[06:43] <matrix> O.o
[06:43] <matrix> please
[06:43] <matrix> O.o