[03:27] <Jippen> Jeeves: Have you tried running a bandwith/response/uptime monitor on the box? Charting the response times of pings from home to the box, vs home to thier page, 1 per minute for a day could give some backing to your argument.
[03:27] <owner> now iam stuck in the menu
[03:27] <superfirelord42> owner, im guessing you didnt manage to get ubuntu installed...
[03:27] <[TiZ]> Wrong, Guest101. Do NOT install BootIt NG.
[03:27] <glitsj16> lwizardl: hang on, i'll check if winFF offers that option
[03:27] <arvind_khadri> tma, sudo ln -s /path/to/app /path/to/executable
[03:27] <Guest101> Oh.. ok [TiZ]
[03:27] <jeeves_> dr_Willis, any sudgestions on a syntax for it?
[03:28] <[TiZ]> Download it, burn it to a CD or floppy drive
[03:28] <superfirelord42> [TiZ], i could have sworn i saw a google tut for that once.. a while back... but i have no knowledge in the area...
[03:28] <lwizardl> glitsj16, on my winff i don't have them
[03:28] <Yazan`> guys, when you want to configure the brightness/contrast of your screen, how do you do it?
[03:28] <superfirelord42> owner, what is the menu?
[03:28] <tma> arvind_khadri, let me try it
[03:28] <[TiZ]> And then run it from the CD, and use its partitioning tool
[03:28] <arvind_khadri> tma, i feel it would work... lets try
[03:28] <bastid_raZor> jpastore; possibly try something other than azurues? transmission ktorrent deluge are all great *nix native applications that don't use java
[03:28] <[TiZ]> After you're done partitioning, you can choose which partition to install Ubuntu on from the installer.
[03:28] <owner> the install main menu
[03:28] <styfle> hello
[03:28] <superfirelord42> owner, what options do you have... and are you using hte floppy method?
[03:28] <Wolvenhaven> dont listen to styfle, he's a mean person
[03:28] <owner> netboot
[03:28] <Yazan`> guys, when you want to configure the brightness/contrast of your screen, how do you do
[03:29] <owner> it workeked
[03:29] <superfirelord42> owner, IT WORKED!! what was making it not work?
[03:29] <[TiZ]> Yazan`, is it a laptop screen, or just a normal monitor?
[03:29] <owner> its now asking me for the mirror site
[03:29] <jpastore> bastid_raZor, it happens during big file transfers as well...like downloading iso's
[03:29] <superfirelord42> owner, hold on...
[03:29] <glitsj16> lwizardl: just found that out myself .. seems more complex than i thought .. sorry to be of no help whatsoever
[03:29] <dr_Willis> jeeves_,  nope. I recall using it a year or so ago to 'test' some issues over a long time.
[03:29] <owner> ok
[03:29] <Guest101> [TiZ], is there a partiton program I dont have to burn to disc to use? Because surely that would be easier?
[03:29] <lwizardl> glitsj16, no preoblem atleast you tried :)
[03:29] <Yazan`> TiZ: it's a monitor
[03:30] <[TiZ]> Guest101, That's what I'm trying to recommend to you. Have you not been listening?
[03:30] <styfle> can someone help me out with a wireless adapter???
[03:30] <jeeves_> dr_Willis, fun.  I'll have a look.  thanks.
[03:30] <[TiZ]> BootIt NG can be run FROM THE CD to do partitioning.
[03:30] <bazhang> Guest101, just use gparted in the installer disk no need for bootit ng (never heard of it and not recommended here)
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> styfle: depends on the adapter
[03:30] <bastid_raZor> jpastore; how are you downloading them? azurues?
[03:30] <Yazan`> TiZ: i want to use the configuration like in windows, where i change brightness/contrast
[03:30] <[TiZ]> You download it, and run a program that burns it to a cd or makes a floppy disk
[03:30] <pip> okay. I need point and click
[03:30] <Guest101> [TiZ] oh, ok...
[03:30] <jpastore> bastid_raZor, no from website's like trixbox
[03:30] <bazhang> [TiZ], gparted is a much better option here
[03:31] <superfirelord42> owner, what was it again, asking for a mirror?
[03:31] <owner> yeah
[03:31] <Guest101> bazhang, where do I get gparted from?
[03:31] <[TiZ]> Sorry, Yazan`. I've never configured a monitor that way from in Windows. Can't you just use the monitor controls?
[03:31] <styfle> indygunfreak: i have a WPC54G Ver2 and it wont let me connect to a WEP 64 hex connection
[03:31] <owner> on the main install menu
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> styfle: can you see the network?
[03:31] <[TiZ]> bazhang, why is that? gparted does not work nearly as well as BootIt NG has, at least for me.
[03:31] <bazhang> Guest101, it is on the live cd; also you can use the manual partitioning scheme in the installer process
[03:31] <Flannel> pip: that's fine.
[03:31] <tma> arvind_khadri, ok, i just did that ... here is what i get when i dbl click the link "Do you want to run "Link to apb, or display its contents?"
[03:31] <superfirelord42> owner, hold on, i have to find a mirror for you... hehe..
[03:31] <Flannel> !codecs | pip
[03:31]  * ikk- Gets Flannel codecs | pip <%)
[03:32] <owner> it ask for mirror site to dload the os from
[03:32] <tma> arvind_khadri, i dont want to see this pop-up, i want it to RUN directly, without asking me
[03:32] <Yazan`> TiZ: it's on the highest....:(         on windows, it was like : Properties > Screen or something...
[03:32] <pip> ooh
[03:32] <arvind_khadri> tma, Link...
[03:32] <bazhang> [TiZ], that is not known here; gparted (either live cd or from ubuntu live cd ) is much preferred; see !worksforme
[03:32] <Flannel> !test | bazhang
[03:32]  * ikk- Gets Flannel test | bazhang <%)
[03:32] <[TiZ]> !worksforme
[03:32]  * ikk- Gets [TiZ] worksforme <%)
[03:32] <Godstrong> what the best linux OS?
[03:32] <superfirelord42> owner, try http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/ubuntu/
[03:32] <jeeves_> dr_Willis, is there a way to specify a date range in a script?  I have a script running every 10 mins to d-load an IP accessable cam's pictures, but I'd like to encode them once a day, but I need to make sure that it only encodes videos for that day, and that the output video file's name is the date range of the encoded pictures
[03:32] <tma> arvind_khadri, yes, am i doing something wrong?
[03:33] <styfle> indygunfreak: i can see the network right when i turn my comp on but it disappears after i try to connect
[03:33]  * [TiZ] facepalms.
[03:33] <arvind_khadri> tma, can you hang around for sometime ...
[03:33] <[TiZ]> Very well. You can take over for me since you know so very much, bazhang.
[03:33] <Guest101> bazhang, oh that. when I chose the manual option the "make new partition" bit was grayed out... :/ is it posible for you to guide me through the process if I find a differenct computer for irc?
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> styfle: hm,m don't know about that
[03:33] <owner> ok first host name
[03:33] <tma> yes
[03:33] <tma> arvind_khadri, yes
[03:33] <owner> anything i choose right
[03:33] <ivan_> hello fn key not working on my toshiba 215, how can i configure it??
[03:33] <[TiZ]> I'm not going to argue with someone over ways to HELP people, especially when I'm taking focus off of my own problems.
[03:33] <superfirelord42> owner, i thought you said you got the netboot to work?
[03:33] <Jippen> jeeves> Bash script? If you are saving the files with a timestamp in the filename, you can do it with a little math
[03:34] <superfirelord42> owner, however you did it last time.. hehe...
[03:34] <owner> yeah
[03:34] <[TiZ]> So I will resume my inquiry on my own dilemma now.
[03:34] <styfle> indygunfreak: do you know someone who can help? i am a compete noob with linux
[03:34] <bazhang> [TiZ], you may wish to read the ubuntuguide or ubuntu wiki for more info on this; bootit ng is not on the list there.
[03:34] <xborgy> tma: what is you you installed?
[03:34] <IndyGunFreak> styfle: sorry i do not
[03:34] <sysop1972> genii: Hey it is working!
[03:34] <ivan_> !fn
[03:34] <owner> i am on the client it saids enter a host name for the system
[03:34] <[TiZ]> bazhang, have you ever used it before? I would guess it's not too widely known.
[03:34] <ivan_> !functional
[03:34] <tma> xborgy, it doesnt need install, just run ... and it runs fine ... just that it PROMPTS all the time what to do
[03:34] <owner> anything you choose
[03:35] <Bubalooshi> Ca I install iTunes 7.7 in Ubuntu?
[03:35] <xborgy> tma: yes i know what is it?
[03:35] <yuri_> im having trouble connecting to a windows ad-hoc network. I see the network but can't make a connection. suggestions?
[03:35] <tma> xborgy, i wanted to get rid of the prompt and RUN automaticly ... is it possible?
[03:35] <superfirelord42> owner, i am going to go eat... do the netboot how you got it work lastime, then try the mirror http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/ubuntu/
[03:35] <owner> so it can identify te client by
[03:35] <superfirelord42> Bubalooshi, yeah, use wine
[03:35] <pip> ....
[03:35] <Bubalooshi> What's Wine?
[03:35] <Jippen> Buba> Wine and iTunes don't play well
[03:35] <owner> ok thanks
[03:35] <xborgy> tma: yes its very easy but what is the app?
[03:35] <bazhang> Guest101, you are using gparted on mounted partitions? or going through a live cd environment to do so
[03:35] <superfirelord42> Jippen, the newest version doesnt?
[03:36] <Jippen> I tried it, like, a month ago
[03:36] <iCEifer> hello, anyone know of a package that can do full disk encryption for my entire linux partition? I tried truecrypt but it doesn't seem to offer full disk encryption in the debian package?
[03:36] <btfx[AFK]> Hay can anyone help me connect with multiple interfaces? Whenever I use that connection tool on the desktop toolbar it drops my other already-working connection.
[03:36] <pip> brb
[03:36] <tma> xborgy, it's a program a friend of mine sent to me, we're working on a project ... but i guess it happens to any app
[03:36] <Bubalooshi> Is there any way I can get rid of the GRUB loader?
[03:36] <Guest101> bazhang... I might be.. im not sure..
[03:36] <xborgy> tma: are you running a .sh?
[03:36] <Jippen> why do you want to, buba?
[03:37] <Bubalooshi> I can access Ubuntu through the Windows loader fine, I don't need GRUB
[03:37] <Bubalooshi> I had it so I can install Ubuntu
[03:37] <tma> xborgy, nope, it's a file without extension ... just a script i guess
[03:37] <Bubalooshi> Or do I need it?
[03:37] <arooni> is there a dyndns auto updater for ubuntu hardy?
[03:37] <bazhang> Guest101, that would be the reason then; do you have the ubuntu live cd? or is this through wubi
[03:37] <xborgy> tma: right mouse click your desktop and choose create link
[03:37] <Guest101> bazhang... the cd i am using is a burnt iso from the ubuntu site.. not wubbi
[03:37] <Jippen> well, you still ACTUALLY need it to boot the system, so I would recommend setting the timeout to, say, 1 second, rather than removing it completely
[03:38] <[TiZ]> I've installed drivers for my Sony EyeToy, and I want to use it as a microphone. If I set the input device in Audacity to "OSS: /dev/dsp1", it works great. I have to use that option, as ALSA's input device doesn't work, and neither does "USB Audio" from sound properties. But I use ALSA to play sound throughout the system. How would I go about setting "OSS: /dev/dsp1" as my default input device, AND THEN, setting Wine up to use it as well?
[03:38] <tma> xborgy, link is there already
[03:38] <tma> xborgy, now what?
[03:38] <xborgy> tma: run it
[03:38] <Bubalooshi> Well, how can I access Windows if I change the timer to 1 second?
[03:38] <btfx> Hay can anyone help me connect with multiple interfaces? Whenever I use that connection tool on the desktop toolbar it drops my other already-working connection.
[03:38] <tma> xborgy,  ok, prompt again
[03:38] <bazhang> Guest101, you run the installer, then get to the guided partitioning section and then it fails?
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> Bubalooshi: hit esc before the timer runs out?
[03:39] <tma> xborgy, i click run and it runs the app
[03:39] <IndyGunFreak> that will bring up your grub menu
[03:39] <Guest101> bazhang, yes
[03:39] <xborgy> tma: yes i know because you're running something that isnt even installed into correct folders to make it run automaticly.
[03:39] <bazhang> Guest101, and it just goes back to the livecd desktop or what
[03:39] <Guest101> yes.
[03:39] <Bubalooshi> Well, that's my only reason besides Windows because of this... my wireless keyboard won't work with my bootloader stuff.
[03:40] <Jippen> Buba> If you are booting via the windows bootloader, then it prolly gives you a choice between "windows" and "other OS", right?
[03:40] <sysop1972> When installing Ubuntu Server what is the best choice of disk partition types?  The system is mainly a Samba file server for Windows clients.
[03:40] <tma> xborgy, should i change something to this file? some properties?
[03:40] <bazhang> Guest101, that was an A or B question, you have to choose one
[03:40] <tma> or maybe move it to /bin folder?
[03:40] <Guest101> Oh.. i mean yes to it going to the ubuntu desk-top bazhang.. sorry ;/
[03:40] <xborgy> tma: how big is this could you send it to me?
[03:40] <jeeves_> can anyone take a stab @ this?  I need to script a way of only encoding jpegs from a specific day.  the pictures follow the format of location_-_year_-_month_-_day_-_hour_-_minute_-_second.jog
[03:40] <Bubalooshi> No, it says:
[03:40] <Bubalooshi> Windows XP Professional
[03:40] <Bubalooshi> Windows 2000
[03:40] <Bubalooshi> Windows XP Professional (I installed 2 times)
[03:40] <FloodBot1> Bubalooshi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:40] <Bubalooshi> Ubuntu
[03:40] <tma> xborgy, hold on
[03:40] <btfx> Can anyone help me connect with multiple interfaces? Whenever I use that connection tool on the desktop toolbar it drops my other already-working connection.
[03:40] <xborgy> k
[03:40] <Jippen> sysop> If you want it to be decient performance and low-maintainence, I recommend 1 partition, ext3
[03:41] <l815> does prefetch some preinstalled with hardy?
[03:41] <bazhang> Guest101, and you did md5 the iso and did integrity check on the installer disk? Also, what speed did you burn the iso to cd at.
[03:41] <l815> *com
[03:41] <l815> *come
[03:41] <Jippen> Jeeves: Can you mod the script to instead be location/year/month/day/hour-minute-second.jog ?
[03:41] <Bubalooshi> Sorry about the Enter thing, but anyways it says Ubuntu at the bottom and I can choose it there
[03:41] <sysop1972> jippen: when we add more drives at a later date for added storage will it be a problem?
[03:42] <Guest101> bazhang, i burned it at 4x, did a nero intefrity check, and then did the ubunto verifying thing.. it passed all of them. no errors.
[03:42] <Jippen> sysop> If you want that to be easy, for a minor performace drop, use LVM. Makes upgrading later a whole lot easier
[03:42] <arvind_khadri> tma, you around?
[03:42] <bazhang> Guest101, and now you are trying to manually or use the guided partitioner (which one)
[03:42] <jeeves_> Jippen, that would be a pain in the you know what.  and I woul dhave to rewrite a lot of other scripts.
[03:42] <Yazan`> hey, is this a valid bash command:  sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf ??
[03:43] <Guest101> bazhang, i tried to use the guided one, thats when the error came.
[03:43] <Flannel> Yazan`: no, you probably want an editor (nano)
[03:43] <arvind_khadri> Yazan`, no ..what are you trying to achieve
[03:43] <tma> arvind_khadri, yes
[03:43] <Yazan`> i want to open  /etc/X11/xorg.conf with admin privilage
[03:43] <kcman> so is this the only chat room on this thing or is there other to chat in?
[03:43] <jeeves_> Jippen, I guess the best way would be to rewrite the script to do that for each location (make directories for year>month>day, but that' a LOT of rewriting (there is over 300 feeds)
[03:44] <bazhang> Guest101, you fiddled with the slider, or left it as ubuntu suggested
[03:44] <tma> xborgy, ok, this is just 4.7 k, but it seems to be a script to check on something and then run another app (included in the same folder)
[03:44] <tma> xborgy, it says #!/bin/bash on top
[03:44] <Jippen> jeeves: What it sounds like, is that you want to grab location-$year-$month-$day-hour-minute.jpg, with the $ being vars, and encode into a movie, right?
[03:44] <Wolvenhaven> styfle fix the cod4 server
[03:44] <sysop1972> jippen: Is it reliable though?  If one drive crashes do they all go down?
[03:44] <Guest101> bazhang, I fiddled with it.. giving ubuntu 12gb of partition
[03:44] <glitsj16> kcman: freenode has loads of channels, what are you looking for exactly ?
[03:45] <bazhang> Guest101, this is a dual boot or ubuntu only
[03:45] <kcman> glitsj16 i guess for now just social stuff is there a search or a page to choose from?
[03:45] <Yazan`> how can i open /etc/X11/xorg.conf with admin privilege from the terminal, if not:  sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:45] <Yazan`> ???
[03:45] <arvind_khadri> tma,were you able to run the file
[03:45] <jeeves_> Jippen, yes.  it's traffic cams, and right now, I have the script downloading the pictures, and renaming the files to include the date/time they were downloaded.  then I encode them by hand later.  I'd like to have it run in the background, and once it's done, it moves the pictures to an eternal HDD.  That way, I can archive the pictures, and be left with the encoded videos
[03:45] <bazhang> Yazan`, gksudo gedit
[03:45] <wfarr> Anyone in here dual-booting a macbook?
[03:45] <arvind_khadri> Yazan`, gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:45] <Guest101> bazhang, i want/need it to be dual boot.
[03:45] <tma> arvind_khadri, file runs fine, it's just the prompt i want to get rid of
[03:46] <Jippen> sysop> If you need the reliability, go for raid. raises cost, setup time, and hurts performance, but it does give you hardiness. Then again, if the box crashes via power spike or something, you may still be hosed.
[03:46] <arvind_khadri> tma, ok did you navigate the right click menu??
[03:46] <tma> arvind_khadri, yes
[03:46] <Jippen> jeeves: You can prolly patch something together with a loop, and using `date`, then
[03:46] <arvind_khadri> tma, any success??
[03:46] <xborgy> tma: it's got to be a sh script./
[03:46] <btfx> Guys, I have multiple network interfaces, Ubuntu automatically connacts to th ewired, but when I try to connect with one of the wireless, it disconnects the wired interface, how can I use both?
[03:47] <tma> xborgy, so, is there a command ... like exec apb    ... or ./sh apb
[03:47] <glitsj16> kcman: depending on the irc client you use you can get the complete list of channels, or look at www.freenode.net
[03:47] <tma> xborgy, something like that?
[03:47] <xborgy> tma: can you not send me teh file ?
[03:47] <Jippen> btfx: Why would you need to? If they are both going over the same line, you won't get any faster speed.
[03:47] <tma> xborgy, i dont think i can
[03:47] <bazhang> Guest101, you backed up the important stuff from windows? also, are you going to have a separate /home partition? if the manual partitioner in the installer disk is giving you fits you may wish to dl the gparted live cd and do it from there
[03:47] <sysop1972> jippen: My concern is that LVM works like a striped raid so that if one drive were to crash it would take down the others as it works like 1 large drive.  Is that how LVM works?
[03:47] <kcman> glitsj16 thank you
[03:47] <tma> xborgy, totally new to linux
[03:47] <Yazan`> ok, after installing the drivers for s3 gamma prosavage video card, how can i now configure the brightness/contrast??
[03:47] <arvind_khadri> tma, if its a script then set it as executable!!
[03:47] <btfx> Jippen: they are going over separate lines =P
[03:48] <glitsj16> kcman: no problem, hope you can find what you need, goodluck
[03:48] <xborgy> tma: right mouse click on the file make it exec
[03:48] <tma> arvind_khadri, xborgy it is set to executable already
[03:48] <Jippen> sysop: Yes, but you can layer LVM over a mirror raid. Easy expansion, just add 2 drives, then run a few LVM commands to take up the new space
[03:48] <bazhang> Guest101, you need to exercise great care when doing it however
[03:48] <[TiZ]> I've installed drivers for my Sony EyeToy, and I want to use it as a microphone. If I set the input device in Audacity to "OSS: /dev/dsp1", it works great. I have to use that option, as ALSA's input device doesn't work, and neither does "USB Audio" from sound properties. But I use ALSA to play sound throughout the system. How would I go about setting "OSS: /dev/dsp1" as my default input device, AND THEN, setting Wine up to use it as well?
[03:48] <xborgy> tma: you might have to chmod the file for privlages
[03:49] <styfle> can someone please help me with a wireless adapter linksys WPC54G Ver2. it discovers networks but when trying to connect it doesnt accept the password and then the icon disappears at the top
[03:49] <kcman> glitsj16 O:-)
[03:49] <mneptok> tma: /path/to/scrpit.sh > /dev/null
[03:49] <Guest101> bazhang, yeah... all backed up. I just want to partitions.. One for ubuntu and one for vista.. i think it was me thta is makking the normal manual partitioner have a fit.. :/
[03:49] <xborgy> tma: and them make a symbolic link to /usr/share/applications or whatever thats if its in there
[03:49] <btfx> Guys, how do I get the network manager to use more thn one network interface?
[03:49] <arvind_khadri> xborgy, thats also done :)
[03:50] <Yazan`> for all ubuntu users here, whenever you want to configure the brightness of your screen, how do you do it??
[03:50] <xborgy> gotcha =_
[03:50] <tma> mneptok, what does this command do?
[03:50] <Striking7> Rawr! I'm having some trouble getting Hardy booting on my macbook pro.
[03:50] <sc0tt_> i have ubuntu 8.04 and am using the gnome desktop, i can send files from my PC to my mobile phone but not vice versa
[03:50] <Jippen> jeeves> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/timedate.html
[03:50] <mneptok> tma: runs the script and directs any output ot /dev/null
[03:50] <bazhang> btfx, from a cable connection and a dsl one (ie two different sources)?
[03:50] <Striking7> I can get the liveCD booted and it installs.
[03:50] <mneptok> *to
[03:50] <arvind_khadri> Yazan`, use the monitor's menu
[03:50] <Striking7> reFIt sees the partition
[03:50] <btfx> bazhang: yep
[03:50] <sc0tt_> i have receive files enabled in preference->administration
[03:50] <hittingpilot> Hello, Firefox 3.0.1 won't display full screen youtube videos
[03:50] <Striking7> I tell it to adjust the mbr...
[03:50] <[TiZ]> Yazan`, doesn't your monitor have any brightness controls?
[03:50] <btfx> bazhang: One wired connection (working) and two wireless(not)
[03:50] <Striking7> and when I try to boot Linux it just hangs at the reFIt penguin screen :\
[03:51] <tma> mneptok, but it's text executable file ... not a .sh file
[03:51] <Yazan`> YES IT DOES. and it's set on max
[03:51] <Yazan`> brb
[03:51] <tma> mneptok, no extension to it
[03:51] <mneptok> tma: it's still a shell script
[03:51] <styfle> how do you force quit???
[03:51] <sysop1972> jippen: I believe backups will be kept so I don't believe we need a raid setup I just worry if we have 3 drives and one crashes in LVM we will lose the OS
[03:51] <Jippen> hitting: Its a flash problem, not FF. Have you tried manually installing flash 9? That fixed it for me.
[03:51] <bazhang> btfx, you have two dsl accounts and one cable account?
[03:51] <styfle> im frozen right now
[03:51] <tma> mneptok, ok, let me try this
[03:51] <arvind_khadri> styfle, you want to stop a partcular app or whole X?/
[03:51] <btfx> bazhang: I have three routers =) each with a separate conection, one connects via LAN, two are wireless
[03:51] <xborgy> styfle: sudo killall appname in term
[03:51] <Guest101> bazhang... do you think i should just use wubbi... cos tbh.. i dont trust myself with the partitones.. :/
[03:52] <sc0tt_> i have ubuntu 8.04 and am using the gnome desktop, i can send files from my PC to my mobile phone but not vice versa
[03:52] <btfx> bazhang: whenever I use the net manager to start one of the wireless ones, the wired connection is dropped =/
[03:52] <styfle> im a nub: first time using ubuntu and i tried to update with update manager and its just frozen, i click the x and nothing
[03:52] <bazhang> Guest101, you can certainly try; the gparted live cd is fairly intuitive but partitioning can be fairly intimidating for newer users
[03:52] <xborgy> styfle: open a terminal
[03:52] <hittingpilot> jippen: no thanks for the tip
[03:52] <xborgy> styfle: sudo killall appname in term
[03:52] <Jippen> sysop: The only way to prevent losing the OS from a disk crash is to use raid, and raid is not a replacement for backups.
[03:52] <styfle> xborgy how do i open terminal?
[03:53] <sysop1972> jippen: Whay would you partition the drive with that will be used for only windows data
[03:53] <xborgy> find it in your menu
[03:53] <arvind_khadri> styfle, Alt+F2 sudo killall update-manager
[03:53] <Guest101> bazhang.. i think im gonna go with wubbi.. thanks for your help though :D
[03:53] <Guest101> bai
[03:53] <arvind_khadri> styfle, use the run in terminal option
[03:53] <bazhang> btfx, network manager is not your friend in this instance, you will need to go cli for this
[03:53] <xborgy> arvind_khadri: ty
[03:53] <btfx> cli?
[03:53] <arvind_khadri> xborgy, :) welcome
[03:53] <Jippen> sysop: ext3. Since its going to be over a network, ext3 basically has all the features of NTFS, and is very stable on linux.
[03:53] <btfx> bazhang: vli?
[03:53] <btfx> **cli?
[03:53] <bazhang> btfx, the command line
[03:54] <btfx> bazhang: Which command =(
[03:54] <Jippen> And, since you are accessing over the network, you don't need to worry about FS compatability between systems
[03:54] <styfle> well the terminal wont open :(
[03:54] <btfx> bazhang: I assume the man pages will take it from here?
[03:54] <arvind_khadri> styfle, press Alt+F2
[03:54] <d600> i have a wireless cars ralink r73usb but the max speed is only 1mb/s it should be 54mbps
[03:54] <mneptok> Jippen: saying "ext3 has all the features of ntfs" is like saying "natalie portman has all the sexiness of ernest borgnine"
[03:54] <bazhang> btfx, let me look for a link relevant to that
[03:54] <arvind_khadri> !tab | styfle
[03:54] <btfx> bazhang: Thankies!
[03:55] <glitsj16> mneptok lol
[03:55] <styfle> ubottu: oh ok thanks, i tried alt f2 and it didnt do anything
[03:55] <arvind_khadri> styfle, it would have opened a box ...
[03:55] <sysop1972> Jippen: WHat I was thinking of doing (Tell me if I am wrong) was to make a 100gb? partition for the OS and then once everything was configured and working fine I would image the partition for a backup in the case that the drive crashes.  For the data we would keep regular backups.
[03:55] <styfle> arvind_khadri: i tried alt f2 and it didnt open anything
[03:55] <Jippen> mneptok: As far as working as a FS for a samba share in a SOHO environment, its equivialnt.
[03:55] <TRON> Can one tell me why my comma sepertaed chans are not joined on startup?
[03:55] <tma> mneptok, xborgy arvind_khadri thanks, it works now ;)
[03:55] <xborgy> tma: sweet!
[03:55] <mneptok> tma: smashing
[03:55] <arvind_khadri> tma, welcome :
[03:56] <d600> i have a wireless cars ralink r73usb but the max speed is only 1mb/s it should be 54mbps
[03:56] <arvind_khadri> styfle, ok Applications->Acessories->Terminal
[03:56] <mneptok> tma: my PayPal address is ...
[03:56] <Jippen> sysop: 100gb for the OS is a whole lot more than you need, unless you are saying 100gb is os and data.
[03:56] <arvind_khadri> styfle, sorry for typo's
[03:56] <styfle> arvind_khadri: i tried that too and still nothing
[03:56] <styfle> i cant even turn it off lol
[03:56] <xborgy> mneptok: lol
[03:56] <styfle> arvind_khadri: i think i'll just hold the power button
[03:57] <arvind_khadri> styfle, ok use Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[03:57] <sysop1972> jippen: sorry I am a windows guy. lol What would you suggest for OS and aps?
[03:57] <xborgy> styfle: hit control + alt+ backspace
[03:57] <styfle> xborgy: nothing
[03:57] <tma> mneptok, hahahah ok
[03:57] <Jippen> sysop: Planning on it running on a command line, or would you be running a GUI on the box?
[03:57] <arvind_khadri> styfle, what the?? are you using Ubuntu???
[03:57] <Wolvenhaven> styfle is a noob
[03:57] <ekontsevoy> I have a question regarding aptitude repository. How do I find out who maintains ruby/jruby packages and how do I cooperate with these people to help them include the latest stuff into Ubuntu's update?
[03:58] <sysop1972> jippen: GUI for this newbie.
[03:58] <arvind_khadri> Wolvenhaven, :P but X should restart on that keystroke
[03:58] <mneptok> sysop1972: laptop or desktop?
[03:58] <ekontsevoy> Let's say I want apt-get install ruby to install the latest 1.8.7, who do I talk to? Who makes those decisions? Can I become a maintainer myself?
[03:58] <sysop1972> Desktop
[03:58] <mneptok> sysop1972: how much physical memory?
[03:58] <mneptok> sysop1972: and do you care about hibernation?
[03:58] <sysop1972> 2GB Intel Quadcore
[03:58] <Jippen> 2-3 gig should be more than enough. 5 if you wanna be really safe. Then partition the rest of your space for /home
[03:59] <mneptok> Jippen: 2-3GB is nowhere near enough
[03:59] <gluer> hi all, how do i reset my alsa-base file?
[03:59] <bazhang> btfx, check this out and the linked webpage there as well as the faq at that second link http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/admin/balance
[03:59] <Jippen> mneptok: For gnome, X, and samba? Its plenty.
[03:59] <mneptok> gluer: sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base
[03:59] <btfx> bazhang: Thanks!
[04:00] <AngryPunk> anyone know why ubuntu thinks theres a blank disc in my drive after every reboot?  "sudo hdparm -w /dev/cdrom1" gets rid of it and allows me to work with the drive, but its anoying to have to reset every reboot
[04:00] <mneptok> Jippen: for /boot with a few kernels and a reasonable apt cache, it's not. and we recommend at least 7.5GB.
[04:00] <mneptok> (for /)
[04:01] <mneptok> AngryPunk: any firmware updates for the optical drive?
[04:01] <gluer> mneptok: i just did that but its not there
[04:01] <glitsj16> ekontsevoy: search for those on ubuntu.packages.com, the maintainers and contact info is available there
[04:01] <xborgy> mneptok: how do i flush out and get rid of all the old kernels in the GRUB list,i have several in there from doing updates all the time.
[04:01] <styfle> Wolvenhaven: nothing came up under hardware drivers
[04:01] <mneptok> xborgy: sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:01] <Wolvenhaven> you ought to have a restricted wireless driver styfle
[04:01] <ekontsevoy> glitsj16: yes, I see that - but do these guys actually make decisions regarding including their updates into official ubuntu's update cycle? not for a next version, but for apt-get update?
[04:02] <Wolvenhaven> you're most likely going to have to use ndiswrapper
[04:02] <Striking7> sysop1972: I usually allocate 10 gigs for the / partition.  I've never had to increase the amount, so I know that's more than enough
[04:02] <xborgy> ah thank you now will this also remove the kernnels themself?
[04:02] <AngryPunk> mneptok: latest firmware
[04:02] <styfle> Wolvenhaven: ok is it hard?
[04:02] <Wolvenhaven> not really
[04:02] <mneptok> xborgy: yes, but it will leave some fallback choices.
[04:02] <Sitherae> Is there a way to remove iTunes protection so I can play them in Ubuntu without losing quality?
[04:02] <xborgy> thanks alot bro!
[04:02] <mneptok> Sitherae: burn the tracks to CD and re-encode them
[04:02] <glitsj16> ekontsevoy: i guess that depends, can't say anything decisive on that one sorry
[04:02] <Jippen> Well, mneptok, since you are obviously far surperior to me in every way, and breathe ubuntu, perhaps you would like to take over?
[04:02] <xborgy> mneptok: ty
[04:03] <Sitherae> mneptok: I believe that removes a bit of quality.
[04:03] <mneptok> Jippen: /whois mneptok before you start with the attitude, please.
[04:03] <mneptok> Sitherae: yes, it does.
[04:03] <Striking7> Jippen: he's just offering his two cents... don't take it personally.
[04:03] <[TiZ]> I've installed drivers for my Sony EyeToy, and I want to use it as a microphone. If I set the input device in Audacity to "OSS: /dev/dsp1", it works great. I have to use that option, as ALSA's input device doesn't work, and neither does "USB Audio" from sound properties. But I use ALSA to play sound throughout the system. How would I go about setting "OSS: /dev/dsp1" as my default input device, AND THEN, setting Wine up to use it as well?
[04:03] <Sitherae> mneptok: I need a way to do it without removing quality :\
[04:03] <Striking7> Jippen: it's all about choice and variety here, right?
[04:03] <zelrikriando> my keyboard has issues, I think it can be related to ubuntu
[04:03] <jeeves_> can someone have a look @ this shell script and tell me how I can mod it to make each new day (date wise) make a new directory and start to store the new day's pictures in the new folder?  http://www.pastebin.ca/1076246
[04:03] <Jippen> I tend to get miffed the 3rd time someone tells me I'm wrong when I'm trying to help someone.
[04:04] <owner> any body familiar with this error in network booting of ubuntu :  .............."Bad archive mirror
[04:04] <owner> The specified Ubuntu archive mirror is either not available, or does not have a valid Release file on it. Please try a different mirror."
[04:05] <Jippen> jeeves... that is one messy script.
[04:05] <zelrikriando> owner, for updates?
[04:05] <arvind_khadri> owner, seems like a roasted sources.list
[04:05] <zelrikriando> fried sources.list :)
[04:05] <owner> not this is an istall a netboot instal
[04:05] <arvind_khadri> owner, please paste your sources.list
[04:06] <arvind_khadri> !paste | owner
[04:06] <Striking7> Jippen: I understand, but this is pretty technical stuff, so there will always be a 3rd opinion.  Be glad - a lot of the time we're wrong without knowing it.
[04:06] <arvind_khadri> zelrikriando, :P
[04:06] <Striking7> Jippen: It's not a personal attack, it's a contribution.
[04:06] <reason> amule is very good
[04:07] <D1> hi
[04:07] <arvind_khadri> D1, hello
[04:07] <D1> How do i Run .bat file in linux?
[04:07] <owner> no iam now trying to instal ubuntu
[04:07] <owner> this happens to be one of the steps
[04:07] <Flannel> D1: get DOSBox.  .bat files are DOS
[04:08] <owner> in the install main menu
[04:08] <D1> Flannel: don't i have to mount the folder in dosbox?
[04:08] <arvind_khadri> owner, please keep your responses to a single line so that its readable
[04:08] <owner> really dont know what esle to do ihav tried all the mirrors it gives me the same message
[04:08] <owner> ok
[04:08] <johanenjoke> e
[04:09] <owner> Bad archive mirror
[04:09] <owner> The specified Ubuntu archive mirror is either not available, or does not have a valid Release file on it. Please try a different mirror.
[04:09] <Blaqlight> damn now Im really in trouble. firefox 3 seems to be broken and I can't get it too show up. no window nothing, just silently crashes. anyone know how I can fix this?
[04:09] <johanenjoke> zijn er nog gezellige meiden die dit meissie gezeltschap wilt houden
[04:09] <arvind_khadri> owner, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PXEInstall follow this
[04:09] <owner_> how do i install tremulous 1.1.0 installer x86.run on ubuntu version 8.04LTS?
[04:09] <dr_Willis> D1,  doxbox can 'mount' a directry to a dos letter. - If what you are trying to run is truely a 'dos batch file'
[04:09] <bazhang> !nl
[04:09] <mneptok> !nl > johanenjoke
[04:09] <dr_Willis> d1 you may want to look at the file and check first.
[04:10] <arvind_khadri> Blaqlight, first check up the system log to see what is crashing it
[04:10] <johanenjoke> floodbot alles goed?
[04:10] <bazhang> johanenjoke, /join #ubuntu-nl
[04:10] <[TiZ]> I've installed drivers for my Sony EyeToy, and I want to use it as a microphone. If I set the input device in Audacity to "OSS: /dev/dsp1", it works great. I have to use that option, as ALSA's input device doesn't work, and neither does "USB Audio" from sound properties. But I use ALSA to play sound throughout the system. How would I go about setting "OSS: /dev/dsp1" as my default input device, AND THEN, setting Wine up to use it as well?
[04:11] <johanenjoke> hallo ik wil chaten
[04:11] <johanenjoke> hoi sagen
[04:11] <D1> file is called setup.bat = kinda like extracting and creating files. How would I be able to run this is DosBox?
[04:11] <arvind_khadri> owner, the site clearly says that the method is broken in Hardy!!
[04:11] <bazhang> johanenjoke, english here
[04:11] <Blaqlight> arvind_khadri, and the best way to do that in a terminal is?
[04:11] <[TiZ]> johanenjoke, you have to talk english here.
[04:12] <gluer> complete sound failure...
[04:12] <chubs> johanenjoke: #ubuntu-de (or similar), actually that looks scandinavian, i don't know
[04:12] <arvind_khadri> Blaqlight, the logs are in /var/log so check up there :) ... there check the syslog and faillog
[04:12] <D1> i typed mount C root and it does not work....
[04:13] <bazhang> D1, for dosbox?
[04:13] <chubs> you're from the netherlands so i'll go with dutch
[04:13] <D1> yes
[04:13] <bazhang> D1, read the help within dosbox itself
[04:13] <owner> ok
[04:13] <johanenjoke> yes i am nederlands
[04:13] <owner> so what do i do
[04:13] <D1> don't give me one of those answers ... anyone else know?
[04:13] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: besides checking the logs you can try starting it in safe-mode and rule-out an incompatible add-on or a conflict with those etcetera ..
[04:14] <johanenjoke> what you do now?
[04:14] <owner> what does that even mean
[04:14] <Jippen> ah... found a new compiz feature... win + r = massive zoom. Anyone know the shortcut to reverse it?
[04:14] <arvind_khadri> owner, either use a older version and then update to Hardy or get a live cd and install Hardy
[04:14] <bazhang> D1, you want me to run dosbox and type out the exact command here? is that about the size of it?
[04:14] <chubs> johanenjoke: #ubuntu-nl
[04:14] <xborgy> [TiZ]: i use a app thats already in Ubuntu Studio its called default soundcard also run gnome-sound-properties
[04:14] <johanenjoke> i am een gurl i  am bi sexueel
[04:14] <Blaqlight> glitsj16, I can't find the "safe-mode" setting. is there a switch that I can use?
[04:14] <bazhang> johanenjoke, not here
[04:14] <johanenjoke> safe-mode?
[04:15] <xborgy> [TiZ]: so i would run in a term gksudo gnome-sound-properties
[04:15] <johanenjoke> oke not here
[04:15] <[TiZ]> xborgy, "default soundcard?" And I can't select "OSS: /dev/dsp1" from gnome sound properties. I can pick USB Audio, but that doesn't work for sound recorder.
[04:15] <D1> bazhang : All i'm tyring to do is run a file called setup.bat in Dosbox 0.72
[04:15] <johanenjoke> i am een butiful girl my men is wonderful
[04:15] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: try starting firefox from termional with "firefox -safe-mode"
[04:16] <bazhang> http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/FAQ D1
[04:16] <Blaqlight> glitsj16, sometimes I forget about the --help switch :P
[04:16] <magic_ninja> does anyone know anything about razer mouse drivers
[04:16] <owner> but does this matter sine iam using netboot
[04:17] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: heh, hard to keep all possible switches in memory
[04:17] <xborgy> [TiZ]: the default soundcard deal is /usr/bin/asoundconf-gtk
[04:17] <MaskedOne> anyone around get a nvidia 6100se video card working in Ubuntu yet?
[04:17] <owner> i an yet to get and .iso image
[04:17] <Leefmc> Question: How do you actually install system upgrades in aptitude? The best i can do seems to be upgrading the lists
[04:17] <Blaqlight> glitsj16, nope no good.
[04:17] <bazhang> D1, also see #dosbox
[04:17] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: no good as in, no errors of any kind ?
[04:17] <owner> what i have is just the boot process
[04:18] <[TiZ]> xborgy: I'll install that prog and see if it helps.
[04:18] <MaskedOne> <---is stuck on his laptop that overheats every 5 minutes for ubuntu cause the new comp has a video card I cannot seem to get working in ubuntu
[04:18] <owner> the file to install is what i am haveing toruble getting to
[04:18] <Blaqlight> the terminal is what it would do as if the window had opened. yet nothing happened
[04:18] <xborgy> [TiZ]: all it does is tells gnome what soundcard to use for default
[04:18] <owner> hardy or prior
[04:18] <scifiguy951> if i plug a razor phone directly into a usb drive how can i acess information from the phone?
[04:19] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: another option is to move your present firefox profile out of the way temporarily and let firefox produce a new one
[04:20] <D1> freaking Bat file is not working under DOSBOX!!! :(!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:20] <Blaqlight> lol this is nice, ps ax shows its running in 3 processed
[04:20] <xborgy> scifiguy951: i have the motorola krazor k1m and i use moto4lin
[04:20] <bazhang> Leefmc, sudo aptitude upgrade
[04:20] <[TiZ]> xborgy: I've selected "camera." And all of a sudden, the USB Audio input seems to be working. Well, in a way. I can hear myself talking when I test it.
[04:21] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: "killall firefox" will bring 'em all down, hopefully that improves your situation
[04:21] <Blaqlight> actually it was running like 10 times over.
[04:21] <glitsj16> :)
[04:22] <[TiZ]> gnome-sound-recorder must be made of fail or something, though! It won't start. It just says, "Your capture settings are invalid, please correct them in multimedia settings"
[04:22] <xborgy> [TiZ]: i run Ubuntu Studio its best for audio/video i'm sorry i dont really know about that stuff as i use a professional soundcard so it's totally diffrent.
[04:22] <Covin> Good evening.  I would like help with specifying my monitor.  I don't know what program to run to select it so that I can use the 'rotate 90 degrees' feature.
[04:22] <scifiguy951> does anyone know how to use moto4lin?
[04:22] <arvind_k> !twinview
[04:22] <dr_Willis> D1,  load it with an editor and see if it truely is a dos file.  or try 'file whatever.bat' and see what file says  it is
[04:23] <arvind_k> !twinview | Covin
[04:23] <[TiZ]> xborgy: It's all good. I just ran Windows' Sound Recorder, and it's picking up my voice great!
[04:23] <[TiZ]> Thank you for your help! :D
[04:23] <xborgy> yw
[04:23] <Whyvas> ubottu please gofy
[04:23] <coffee1> does the RBN operate any irc networks?
[04:23] <xborgy> scifiguy951: i told you i have it installed i told you i use it,do you have it installed?
[04:23] <[TiZ]> Now the only thing left is no$gba's emulation. :P
[04:23] <Tikek> owner, you there?
[04:23] <arvind_k> Whyvas, what do you need ??
[04:23] <Flannel> Whyvas: please behave
[04:24] <scifiguy951> yes its installed
[04:24] <xborgy> run it ;p;
[04:24] <Whyvas> Flannel?
[04:24] <mneptok> Whyvas: the language, guy.
[04:24] <superfirelord42> why in the world did it change my nickname?
[04:24] <superfirelord42> owner, is it working?
[04:24] <Blaqlight> glitsj16, still nothing.
[04:25] <coffee1> does anyone know of any botnets
[04:25] <Whyvas> Flannel what language?
[04:25]  * Teksura kisses Vulnavia-Dahlia
[04:25] <bazhang> Whyvas, the PM language
[04:25]  * Vulnavia-Dahlia kisses Teksura
[04:25] <mneptok> !offtopic > coffee1
[04:25] <Whyvas> what?
[04:25] <coffee1> my bad
[04:25] <mneptok> 23:19 < Whyvas> ubottu please gofy
[04:25] <mneptok> Whyvas: ^^^^
[04:25] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: did you have a chance to go over those log files yet ?
[04:25] <mneptok> Whyvas: don;t let it happen again.
[04:25] <jerome1232> Is there a way to get Gnome to play a sound when I close a window? That's not one of the options under system>>pref>>sounds
[04:25] <Blaqlight> glitsj16, frankly there are alot of things running that Ive killed over sessions multiple sessions.
[04:25] <scifiguy951> how do i use it?
[04:25] <AMDpenguin> I got a new 500GB drive
[04:26] <AMDpenguin> How big should i make /?
[04:26] <Whyvas> mneptok what does gofy mean?
[04:26] <scifiguy951> it says error:unableto connect
[04:26] <Whyvas> mneptok gofy
[04:26] <arvind_k> glitsj16, i suggested that long back :P
[04:26] <Whyvas> it happened!
[04:26] <AMDpenguin> is 20GB enough for /?
[04:26] <Whyvas> AGAIN!
[04:26] <Whyvas> OH NO!
[04:26] <Whyvas> TURBO FAG!
[04:26] <FloodBot1> Whyvas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:26] <scifiguy951> how do i connect to the phone?
[04:27] <owner> no i dont know what version works any help there
[04:27] <superfirelord42> owner?
[04:27] <Blaqlight> glitsj16, almost as if I have to manually kill each and every process individually. which is very disturbing.
[04:27] <glitsj16> arvind_k: i read it yes :) .. always difficult to pinpoint where firefox went bad
[04:27] <superfirelord42> owner, did you enter in the address i gave you for hte mirror?
[04:27] <xborgy> scifiguy951: http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/KRZR_k1m+
[04:27] <xborgy> scifiguy951: http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/KRZR_k1m
[04:27] <arvind_k> Blaqlight, sudo killall firefox would kill every running instance of firfox
[04:28] <owner> yeah
[04:28] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: only firefox processes or others as well ?
[04:28] <arvind_k> glitsj16, thats ok ..
[04:28] <superfirelord42> owner, what did it say?
[04:28] <owner> just gives me this message
[04:28] <arvind_k> superfirelord42, are helping him with the netboot thing in Hardy?
[04:28] <owner> "Bad archive mirror"The specified Ubuntu archive mirror is either not available, or does not have a valid Release file on it. Please try a different mirror.
[04:28] <superfirelord42> arvind_k correct
[04:28] <fwaokda> I had my wireless configured on ubuntu, but changed which device the panel applet was controlling and now I can't get it back.  How can I fix that?
[04:28] <Blaqlight> glitsj16, I started a xine program 3 sessions ago, it never opened and the process is still running.
[04:29] <arvind_k> superfirelord42, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot then read this
[04:29] <superfirelord42> owner, ok, let me find a better mirror
[04:29] <superfirelord42> arvind_k im already there
[04:29] <owner> i dont think its the mirros
[04:29] <JohnnyBeGood> anyone from germany in here?
[04:29] <arvind_k> superfirelord42, ok so the first line says its broken ... :)
[04:29] <superfirelord42> owner, do you have the computers hooked together, or on hte network
[04:29] <bazhang> !de | JohnnyBeGood
[04:29] <superfirelord42> arvind_k, that method is broken...
[04:30] <Blaqlight> sudo killall firefox didn't do anything... e.g. didn't actually kill the process.
[04:30] <arvind_k> superfirelord42, yeah its broken on hardy ...
[04:30] <superfirelord42> arvind_ki, its the mirror setup that says it broken..
[04:30] <xborgy> Blaqlight: try sudo kill firefox
[04:30] <superfirelord42> sry, that was arvind_k
[04:30] <xborgy> Blaqlight: try sudo killall firefox
[04:30] <martosurf> hi, i can't remember the command to clean-up the directory once a program has been compiled, can give me a hand? tnx!
[04:30] <owner> they are on network with my router
[04:30] <arvind_k> superfirelord42, hmm ...
[04:31] <superfirelord42> owner. hold on
[04:31] <bazhang> owner, this is hardy or gutsy
[04:31] <superfirelord42> arvind_k, also i accidently gave him the wrong mirror
[04:31] <martosurf> malke distclean may be?
[04:31] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: hmmm, i can't tell it's related to your firefox trouble, but that smells like a session problem in general .. focus on firefox first perhaps, that seems to prove difficult enough already
[04:31] <arvind_k> owner, xborgy check ps aux | grep firefox
[04:31] <murlidhar> hi all  . i am have trouble with compiling a program called bmpanel  .  the ./configure doesn't show any error but when i sudo make it , i get a lot of errors . i hve uploaded both the pastebins .
[04:31] <murlidhar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/28389/
[04:31] <owner> thats the problem idk
[04:31] <owner> just got it
[04:31] <ventusignis> I'm trying to install off of the live cd and I'm getting this error from mke2fs: Could not stat /dev/hde1 --- No such file or directory
[04:31] <bazhang> owner, lsb_release -a in the terminal
[04:31] <murlidhar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/28388/
[04:32] <superfirelord42> owner, the problem is i gave you the wrong mirror, hold on...
[04:32] <owner> as a net boot pack
[04:32] <superfirelord42> bazhang, its hardy
[04:32] <ventusignis> Could someone help me figure out what is going wrong?
[04:32] <Blaqlight> xborgy, again it didn't do anything : 18663 pts/0    Tl     0:00 /usr/lib/firefox-3.0/firefox -safe-mode
[04:32] <owner> it does not not say which its from
[04:32] <ventusignis> I'm formatting an hd to ext3
[04:32] <superfirelord42> owner, its hardy
[04:32] <bazhang> thanks superfirelord42
[04:32] <owner> check this out
[04:32] <martosurf> murlidhar: which linux version do you have?!!
[04:32] <Blaqlight> man this is confusing.
[04:33] <owner> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76790.html
[04:33] <lginn02> how do i change the way my desktop looks in ubuntu?
[04:33] <arvind_k> murlidhar, you need the latest kernel and glibc for it :)
[04:33] <owner> he had the same problem
[04:33] <martosurf> murlidhar: the log states you have old libraries plus linux kernel!??!
[04:33] <murlidhar> martosurf, 8.04
[04:33] <superfirelord42> owner, thats in 2005
[04:33] <owner> I am haveing too
[04:33] <superfirelord42> owner, thats pre-hardy
[04:33] <bazhang> get themes from gnome-look.org lginn02
[04:33] <owner> yeah
[04:33] <lginn02> oh ok
[04:34] <owner> I am have the same exact problem
[04:34] <mneptok> lginn02: http://art.gnome.org
[04:34] <Blaqlight> seems the ONLY way to kill the process is : kill -9 [process #]
[04:34] <arvind_k> murlidhar, what is the output of uname -a
[04:34] <mneptok> murlidhar: lsb_release -a
[04:34] <xborgy> Blaqlight: when i killall firefox mine closing perfectly
[04:34] <arvind_k> Blaqlight, with a sudo
[04:35] <Blaqlight> xborgy, well thats when it works RIGHT, its obviously not working right :P
[04:35] <superfirelord42> owner, i am sure i gave you the wrong web address, hold on while i give you the correct one
[04:35] <|Juan|> could someone point me to a repo that updates the xserver or a guide on how to install it from source without messing up the system?
[04:35] <lginn02> what r xmms themes for?
[04:35] <murlidhar> arvind_k, i am on gprs .:(
[04:35] <xborgy> Blaqlight: i would have to trace back to see why it isnt working right for you,did you manually install firefox yourself?
[04:35] <superfirelord42> owner, try http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/ubuntu/dists/hardy/
[04:35] <purdylilgirl> anyone have a clue about kdmtheme being broke in Gutsy?
[04:35] <WalloO> lginn02, to change the look and fell like with winamp
[04:35] <|Juan|> could someone point me to a repo that updates the xserver or a guide on how to install it from source without messing up the system?
[04:35] <purdylilgirl> I used to have a link for the fix
[04:36] <arvind_k> murlidhar, thats sad
[04:36] <superfirelord42> owner, when i left of hardy, it didnt get the release file
[04:36] <CyberCod> !cron
[04:36] <scifiguy951> how do i become root?
[04:36] <Blaqlight> it was working fine until my Gnome Desktop failed to load and it still fails to load as of now. all of this is happening in E16 cause I can't get gnome to fully load.
[04:36] <superfirelord42> scifiguy951, sudo
[04:36] <|Juan|> !xserver
[04:36] <owner> ok i will try it
[04:36] <murlidhar> Linux murlidhar-desktop 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 13:23:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:36] <murlidhar> that's what my uname -a says
[04:36] <|Juan|> could someone point me to a repo that updates the xserver or a guide on how to install it from source without messing up the system?
[04:36] <superfirelord42> !sudo | scifiguy951
[04:37] <Blaqlight> perhaps this is all leading back to my gnome desktop being fubared?
[04:37] <scifiguy951> how do i become it so i can read certin files tho
[04:37] <lginn02> well what im looking for is a way to change the taskbars around. dont much like the mac look
[04:37] <superfirelord42> scifiguy951, just do the command, sudo vi file
[04:37] <krister_> hi guys
[04:37] <superfirelord42> scifiguy951, or sudo cat file
[04:37] <xborgy> Blaqlight: i sopose so
[04:37] <krister_> does anyone know how, when booting grub from hd, to specify a usb drive as root in menu.lst
[04:38] <Blaqlight> so how do I erase the session information so that gnome can rewrite it?
[04:38] <arvind_k> murlidhar, run ./configue with sudo
[04:38] <superfirelord42> krister_, i think thats something in your devices.map
[04:38] <Blaqlight> Ill try that.
[04:38] <xborgy> Blaqlight: i have Ubuntu Studio installed it comes pre with gnome so everything with gnome works perfectly but when i installed KDE4 manually from the package manager it boots up fine for awhile and i get several crashes all the time.
[04:38] <scifiguy951> it says no such file or directory
[04:38] <scifiguy951> ?
[04:38] <superfirelord42> krister_, i dont remember the specifics though..
[04:38] <krister_> is it still goint to be (hdx,x)?
[04:38] <murlidhar> arvind_k, but 8.04 should have all the latest libs . don't u think so ?
[04:38] <superfirelord42> scifiguy951, are you sure you entered the right file or directory?
[04:38] <|Juan|> could someone point me to a repo that updates the xserver or a guide on how to install it from source without messing up the system?
[04:39] <arvind_k> murlidhar, not exactly...things dont work like that :)
[04:39] <Guest69780> anybody know some mame channels?
[04:39] <murlidhar> arvind_k, shows no errors
[04:39] <clayg> What is a good way to make a live ubuntu cd
[04:39] <superfirelord42> Guest69780, do a /list
[04:39] <crd1b> |Juan|: why do you want to do that?
[04:39] <bazhang> clayg, with the ubuntu customization kit
[04:39] <purdylilgirl> for real Guest69780
[04:39] <arvind_k> murlidhar, you did sudo ./configure right?? then run sudo make
[04:39] <|Juan|> crd1b, im having some problems with gdmflexiserver
[04:39] <bazhang> !uck | clayg
[04:39] <martosurf> xborgy: yeah, KDE4 is stilll undeeer heavy development AND usually people say no matter if distro is GNOME or KDE oriented you can allways install any other desktop besides original, but this is not true as you experience
[04:40] <clayg> bazhang, awesome-thanks man
[04:40] <bazhang> np
[04:40] <crd1b> |Juan|: X is an immensely complex thing; do you have reason to believe that a newer version will fix your problem?
[04:40] <Flannel> !remaster | clayg
[04:40] <murlidhar> arvind_k, did and that doesn't help
[04:40] <xborgy> martosurf: wll when i use Enlightenment and Awesome and Xfce they all work perfectly
[04:40] <|Juan|> crd1b, nothing else seems to work and i get no answers, not on the forums nor bug report
[04:41] <zelrikriando> Awesome?
[04:41] <xborgy> Awesome is a window manager
[04:41] <|Juan|> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/244737
[04:41] <arvind_k> murlidhar, ok can you paste the o/p when you ran sudo ./configure
[04:41] <superfirelord42> scifiguy951, any luck?
[04:41] <zelrikriando> xborgy, shot of it?
[04:41] <martosurf> xborgy: KDE4 nees wat lot too polishment
[04:41] <xborgy> it like puts thinsg in stacks its nice
[04:41] <scifiguy951> yea its working now
[04:41] <scifiguy951> idk what the problem was
[04:41] <scifiguy951> i am getting the id #'s
[04:41] <superfirelord42> scifiguy951, typo?
[04:41] <martosurf> xborgy:talking about AWN, do you know a real *cool* theme for it?
[04:41] <superfirelord42> idk.. its working, why question it.. hehe...
[04:41] <xborgy> not off hand
[04:42] <murlidhar> arvind_k, wouldn't it help i update the only  the particular libs
[04:42] <superfirelord42> owner, any luck?
[04:42] <scifiguy951> yeah
[04:42] <xborgy> i actually dont use Awesome that much
[04:42] <arvind_k> martosurf, xborgy be careful about what you say on KDE .. :P few  ops are kde users ;)
[04:42] <RadicalR> Um, may I ask a question about Ubuntu here?
[04:42] <owner> what is the host name
[04:42] <xborgy> thats ok i dont like KDE :)
[04:42] <superfirelord42> !ask | RadicalR
[04:42] <martosurf> xborgy: lol
[04:42] <xborgy> lol
[04:42] <arvind_k> murlidhar, try installing -dev for the glibc it works :)
[04:43] <xborgy> Enlightenment is my fav!
[04:43] <owner> please enter a hostname on the mirror from whick ubuntu will be dowloaded
[04:43] <xborgy> but i am in gnome now hehe
[04:43] <arvind_k> xborgy, thats real lightweight :) only two keys
[04:43] <zelrikriando> xborgy, looks minimalist
[04:43] <fwaokda> can someone plz help me get my wireless working again ? It was working and then I changed it by accident to the 'lo' and now I can't get it back to "normal" wireless.
[04:43] <|Juan|> could someone point me to a repo that updates the xserver or a guide on how to install it from source without messing up the system? or help with this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/244737
[04:43] <zelrikriando> I prefer Gnome by far
[04:43] <Sitherae> I'm trying to install Pidgin from source and I get this error with I try to "make" it: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:43] <linkmaster03> Where can I find a memory editor for ubuntu like ArtMoney or Tsearch on Windows?
[04:43] <xborgy> zelrikriando: thats the point of Awesome
[04:44] <owner> youthere
[04:44] <xborgy> its very fast and minimal
[04:44] <zelrikriando> xborgy, I hate minimalist WM's
[04:44] <arvind_k> Sitherae, why do you want to compile
[04:44] <xborgy> i actually use that to run gimp
[04:44] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, go ahead and ask your ubuntu question...
[04:44] <owner> you know whats supposed to go here
[04:44] <Sitherae> arvind_k: Heard compiling from source is the only way to get MSN/Gtalk to work.
[04:44] <lginn02> i didnt think that ubuntu used tar.gz format
[04:44] <superfirelord42> owner, what?
[04:44] <|Juan|> could someone point me to a repo that updates the xserver or a guide on how to install it from source without messing up the system? or help with this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/244737
[04:44] <RadicalR> Has anyone else has trouble with the DVD drives suddenly stop working (as in HAL not even detecting the CD and DVDs) and mounting on the command lines gives mount: no medium found, even when there's a DVD in it.
[04:44] <arvind_k> Sitherae, wrong info!!!
[04:44] <dr_Willis> Enlightenment used to be considered the big-bad-bloated-eyecandy  desktop/wm :)
[04:44] <bazhang> Sitherae, you have build-essential installed? also why pidgin as it is in the repos
[04:45] <Flannel> Sitherae: google talk?
[04:45] <porkchop> hello all. i am in need of some help gettingwireless to work on my laptop
[04:45] <Sitherae> Flannel: yes
[04:45] <zelrikriando> xborgy, I like t have some "bling" on my eyes...that makes me feel less depressed
[04:45] <xborgy> dr_Willis: alot better now
[04:45] <dr_Willis> xborgy,  its the 'window manager' that keeps getting totally redone.. :)
[04:45] <linkmaster03> Where can I find a memory editor for ubuntu like ArtMoney or Tsearch on Windows?
[04:45] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, i didnt think HAL handles if a dvd is in a drive... i thought the linux kernel handles that...
[04:45] <Flannel> Sitherae: any jabber client will work with google talk.  If you want the voice, youneed a client that supports Jingle, a list is available here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingle_%28protocol%29
[04:45] <Sitherae> bazhang: I heard that installing from source is the only way to fix the SSL issue with MSN
[04:45] <xborgy> dr_Willis: you can even add a gnome and kde taskbar right inside of it now. all kinds of neat things
[04:45] <RadicalR> Well, here's the thing. I used to have it working
[04:46] <RadicalR> Then I upgraded the kernel. My mistake.
[04:46] <crd1b> |Juan|: as I said, X is immensely complex; there is no way to _easily_ build it, and without any reason to believe it fixes your bug, there's no reason to embark upon such a journey
[04:46] <arvind_k> Flannel, for voice support Empathy :P
[04:46] <murlidhar> arvind_k, http://paste.ubuntu.com/28391/
[04:46] <owner> ok
[04:46] <gluer> hi, ive got a realtek alc861vd soundcard, trying to get it working but no sound, any ideas how to fix?
[04:46] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, when you insert a cd, what is the output of dmesg | tail ... please pastebin it
[04:46] <|Juan|> crd1b, please help with the bug then
[04:46] <superfirelord42> owner, did it work?
[04:46] <arvind_k> murlidhar, install -dev for glibc and check it up...
[04:46] <porkchop> anyone good with wireless?
[04:47] <arvind_k> !anyone | porkchop
[04:47] <xborgy> dr_Willis; i really really like Xfce
[04:47] <codiferous> porkchop, what wireless card do you have?
[04:47] <arvind_k> xborgy take this all to OT :)
[04:47] <crd1b> |Juan|: what video card do you have?
[04:47] <|Juan|> crd1b, geforce 6150
[04:48] <porkchop> well, i have a different problem first.   ubuntu wont even load for me now.
[04:48] <xborgy> arvind_k: hehe
[04:48] <Sitherae> How do I fix the SSL issue with Pidgin?
[04:48] <dr_Willis> xborgy,  yea. I like some of the features of xfce.   but thats the way linux is at times.. You like bits and peices of different tools. :)
[04:48] <|Juan|> crd1b, ive been using ubuntu since edgy, the problem is with hardy, i even made a fresh install, updated the nvidia driver, etc
[04:48] <arvind_k> Sitherae, you need to install gnu-tls and then recompile!!!
[04:48] <xborgy> dr_Willis; exactly
[04:48] <porkchop> it gets to the load screeen with the sliding orange box, then the screen turns black withsome white writing
[04:48] <Sitherae> arvind_k: Can't find that package :\
[04:48] <porkchop> what did i do?
[04:48] <superfirelord42> arvind_k, hmm, this is a very interesting situation... do you think it would be ok if we went one release lower than hardy and then did an internal upgrade?
[04:49] <arvind_k> superfirelord42, thats what the documentation suggests :P
[04:49] <crd1b> |Juan|: it could easily be the nvidia driver causing X to segfault, but I don't know of any way to reliably determine that
[04:49] <superfirelord42> arvind_k, sorry, wrong term, dist-upgrade
[04:49] <arvind_k> Sitherae, hang on
[04:49] <murlidhar> arvind_k, E: Couldn't find package glibc-dev
[04:49] <lginn02> what do i need to download to change the way my taskbars look
[04:49] <owner> noghting happens
[04:49] <arvind_k> murlidhar, hang on
[04:49] <superfirelord42> arvind_k, ok... ill have him replace it if he cannot get it to work
[04:49] <crd1b> |Juan|: have you tested iwth the 2d-only 'nv' driver?
[04:49] <xborgy> dr_Willis; i mean really if you thought about it you could just use windows
[04:49] <superfirelord42> owner, what is the error?
[04:49] <owner> just returns to the prev. menu
[04:50] <superfirelord42> owner, what are the options on the menu?
[04:50] <dr_Willis> xborgy,  been using jwm + rox lately
[04:50] <|Juan|> crd1b, no, and that "2d-only" part sounds more like a problem than a solution
[04:50] <murlidhar> arvind_k, did u mean libuclibc-dev ?
[04:50] <xborgy> dr_Willis: cool i havent even tryed jwm how is it?
[04:50] <arvind_k> Sitherae, that is libgnutls and install its -dev too ... that would be sudo apt-get install libgnutls libgnutls-dev
[04:50] <owner> choose a mirror of ubuntu archive
[04:51] <crd1b> |Juan|: I'm not suggesting it as a solution. I'm suggesting it as a diagnostic
[04:51] <|Juan|> crd1b, ive disabled 3d effect (even tried uninstalling everything compiz related and commenting out compisiting in xorg.conf
[04:51] <porkchop> busybox v1.1.3 built in shell
[04:51] <owner> then a long list of countries
[04:51] <dr_Willis> xborgy,  very very.. minimal. :) and can take some tweaking.
[04:51] <superfirelord42> owner, and you choose one and it doesnt work?
[04:51] <arvind_k> Sitherae, hey sorry there is only -dev just install that
[04:51] <xborgy> dr_Willis: nice,if you like minal you should try out Awesome you might like it.
[04:51] <superfirelord42> owner, so you enter your country and choose a mirror, and it always doesnt work, no matter which one?
[04:51] <owner> tried almost all of them
[04:51] <RadicalR> Alright, looks like I have to amend my question.
[04:52] <Sitherae> arvind_k: Alright got it. But now pidgin isn't compiling :(
[04:52] <owner> yea no mater with one i just get
[04:52] <superfirelord42> owner, ok, then its the bug... i think, since its unassigned, and really annoying, i may see if i can fix that bug... but for now.. lets look at a version lower
[04:52] <owner> Bad archive mirrorThe specified Ubuntu archive mirror is either not available, or does not have a valid Release file on it. Please try a different mirror.
[04:52] <superfirelord42> owner, we are going to install gusty
[04:52] <RadicalR> Apparently now only one of my DVD drives is giving the no medium found
[04:52] <zro> anyone know how to pad digits in a sed regex?
[04:52] <owner> ok
[04:52] <|Juan|> crd1b, it started happening with hardy, same system i had back from edgy, 3 different nvidia drivers
[04:52] <RadicalR> And there is nothing funny in the dmesg | tail
[04:52] <arvind_k> murlidhar, it would be this libglib2.0-0
[04:52] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, did you try the dmesg | tail ?
[04:52] <zro> like s/\(\d\)/00\1/
[04:53] <owner> i can gget net boot to run now no prob there so thats good
[04:53] <RadicalR> Yes
[04:53] <crd1b> |Juan|: which all share quite a bit of code
[04:53] <owner> part
[04:53] <crd1b> nvidia doesn't rewrite it for each version
[04:53] <|Juan|> crd1b, id go as far as trying the nvidia driver that shipped with gutsy if you tell me how
[04:53] <Sitherae> arvind_k: Getting this error: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:53] <gluer>  im almost pulling my hair out to try and get my sound card to work its an alc861vd, the most i can get working is crappy noise through pc speaker, can someone point me in the right direction?
[04:53] <RadicalR> And it showed it mounting the master DVD
[04:53] <arvind_k> Sitherae, i think you should just install from the repo...it has got no problems
[04:53] <xborgy> awesome is a floating and tiling window manager initialy based on a dwm code rewriting. It's extremely fast, small, dynamic and awesome.
[04:53] <Sitherae> alright
[04:53] <crd1b> |Juan|: try the 'nv' driver; that will tell you whether it's an X problem or an nvidia one
[04:53] <lginn02> ok i cant get any of these desklets or mouse pointers installed
[04:53] <RadicalR> but not the slave DVD drive...
[04:54] <Chipsa964> how do I install the firefox 3.0.1 package from the firefox web site?
[04:54] <Sitherae> arvind_k: That did not fix the SSL problem :\
[04:54] <|Juan|> crd1b, how. tell me how. or better, tell me how to install the gutsy nvidia driver because i had no problem on gutsy. if it doesnt work with that its the same diagnose right
[04:54] <arvind_k> Sitherae, first uninstall the compiled version
[04:54] <superfirelord42> owner, from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/, redownload all the mini.iso, linux, and initrd.gz
[04:55] <gluer> chipsa964: make sure u copy your plugins into the new version of FF
[04:55] <l3d> ok why is it after a full install when I try to update from a wirless pc on the network after like 23 updates my internet connection dies and I have to reboot the router to get it back
[04:55] <murlidhar> arvind_k, gotta download a 2 mb file . will take some time
[04:55] <superfirelord42> owner, and pxelinux.cfg files
[04:55] <Sitherae> arvind_k: Using Synaptic?
[04:55] <murlidhar> arvind_k, oops 870kb to be exact
[04:55] <Candale> so is the ubuntu MID version actually on and devices yet?
[04:55] <glitsj16> lginn02: try looking for instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy, it has a specific section on chenging mouse cursor themes
[04:55] <owner> ook
[04:55] <Chipsa964> gluer, i downloaded the file, but im just not exactly sure how to install it
[04:56] <superfirelord42> Chipsa964, is it a .tgz?
[04:56] <arvind_k> Sitherae, no use sudo make uninstall ...assuming that you had successfuly installed/compiled it
[04:56] <superfirelord42> Chipsa964, or a tar.bz2, or a tar.gz?
[04:56] <Sitherae> arvind_k: I never installed it LOL
[04:56] <arvind_k> murlidhar, and after that install the -cli too for it :)
[04:56] <Sitherae> arvind_k: Kept getting errors with compiling
[04:56] <Chipsa964> yeah tar.bz2
[04:56] <gluer> Extract it and copy the folder as sudo...i forget the path..then copy your existing plugins across to the new plugins folder
[04:56] <crd1b> |Juan|: gutsy's nvidia driver wouldn't help since you'd expect it to fail with that too. Trying 'nv' is easy: just open /etc/X11/xorg.conf, find Section "Device", and set the Driver line to Driver "nv"
[04:56] <superfirelord42> Chipsa964, where did you save it?
[04:56] <murlidhar> arvind_k, k ;)
[04:56] <Chipsa964> desktop
[04:57] <arvind_k> Sitherae, then delete the source and use synaptic to install pidgin
[04:57] <superfirelord42> Chipsa964, in the terminal, do cd Desktop...
[04:57] <purdylilgirl> anyone find the fix for loading log in themes in kdmtheme manager in Gutsy?
[04:57] <RadicalR> superfirelord42, http://pastebin.ca/1076300
[04:57] <daggerx> greetings people
[04:57] <RadicalR> The dmesg | tail you asked for.
[04:57] <lginn02> can i use desklets in ubuntu? i downloaded the file from gnome look but its in tarball format.
[04:57] <arvind_k> murlidhar, it should help am not sure though :)
[04:57] <grendal_prime> not really PEOPLE per say...
[04:57] <RadicalR> However, it's fine as far as I can tell
[04:57] <kcman> what is the default page that loads with ubuntu when you first start out?
[04:58] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, thanks.. looking...
[04:58] <Chipsa964> ok
[04:58] <murlidhar> arvind_k, seems that u are using airtel broadband . would that support my d-link 502T modem ?
[04:58] <daggerx> t41 wlan drivers  - where can i get those (if they exist)
[04:58] <arvind_k> murlidhar, nope am using BSNL ...
[04:58] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, if found a ISOFS as if it mounted...
[04:58] <murlidhar> arvind_k, my bsnl broadband will take ages to come.
[04:58] <RadicalR> kcman, http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[04:58] <daggerx> http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/
[04:58] <Chipsa964> superfirelord42, what next?
[04:58] <murlidhar> arvind_k, k
[04:58] <arvind_k> murlidhar, :P where do you stay ??
[04:59] <arvind_k> murlidhar, pm me
[04:59] <RadicalR> superfirelord42, I think I didn't explain things clear enough. I have two DVD drives
[04:59] <superfirelord42> Chipsa964, mv nameoffile.tar.bz2 ~
[04:59] <RadicalR> the top one is the burner (that's the one that mounted)
[04:59] <xborgy> lginn02: http://gdesklets.de/files/gdesklets_0.36-0ubuntu_i386.deb
[04:59] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, ah, so one works, the other doesnt, what i saw was the one htat works
[04:59] <gluer> chipsa964: copy to /usr/lib
[04:59] <glitsj16> lginn02: gdesklets is in the repositories
[04:59] <RadicalR> yep.
[04:59] <RadicalR> But the bottom one doesn't produce any errors
[05:00] <RadicalR> Just "Sorry, pal. I don't feel like wokrin'"
[05:00] <RadicalR> *workin'
[05:00] <arvind_k> Sitherae, murlidhar, there is a power cut here ...gotta go... sorry ...
[05:00] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, when you try to mount it, when you get hte error, we need to see the dmesg | tail, thats where we find out
[05:00] <daggerx> t41 wlan drivers  - where can i get those (if they exist)
[05:00] <Sitherae> arvind_k: Seeya
[05:00] <RadicalR> Did that.
[05:00] <murlidhar> arvind_k, k cya
[05:00] <RadicalR> That dmesg | tail was AFTER I tried mounting it.
[05:00] <superfirelord42> Chipsa964, follow gluer's instructions, i think he knows where to put it better...
[05:00] <Squee__> Is there a way I can take a variable In bash and get the size in bytes without dumping it to a file first?
[05:01] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, it looked like it found it according to that... so whats hte console error
[05:01] <Chipsa964> ok
[05:01] <|Juan|> crd1b, screen res is messed up badly on nv
[05:01] <Chipsa964> thanks
[05:01] <RadicalR> Tell you what, I'll try to mount it manually again and pastebin that.
[05:01] <|Juan|> crd1b, i cant even see the lower panel on gnome
[05:01] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, ok, thanks...
[05:01] <|Juan|> crd1b, tried changing it and it doesnt help
[05:01] <superfirelord42> owner, still getting those files?
[05:01] <Chipsa964> gluer, i downloaded the .tar.bz2 file to my desktop, so what do i do now?
[05:01] <gluer> anyone know anything about getting alsa to work?
[05:01] <d600> any good partitioner for linux that can be used to create ntfs hdd
[05:02] <wols_> !alsa | gluer
[05:02] <owner> trying ftp
[05:02] <gluer> extract it to desktop
[05:02] <Squee__> d600: gparted should be able to handle ntfs
[05:02] <superfirelord42> d600, gparted, but i dont know if it creates ntfs..
[05:02] <RadicalR> superfirelord42, http://pastebin.ca/1076302
[05:02] <xborgy> d600: i use gparted
[05:02] <gluer> i do a sudo nautilus from terminal
[05:02] <|Juan|> crd1b, any other ideas
[05:02] <d600> gparted wont create ntfs i need one that will
[05:02] <murlidhar> can anybody tell me what is sys/timerfd.h
[05:02] <Sitherae> I removed Pidgin using Synaptic but I still have it in like /programs/ How do I completely remove it?
[05:02] <fr05tbyt3> hello all, i was wondering if it is possible to run two different desktop enviroments on two different monitors on one computer
[05:02] <gluer> copy the folder across to /usr/lib
[05:03] <owner> afraid i might lose the file structure if i do it manually
[05:03] <crd1b> |Juan|: that doesn't matter. It allows you to test user-switching with a non-nvidia driver
[05:03] <gluer> then copy the existing plugin files across to the new plugin folder
[05:03] <Squee__> d600: sudo apt-get install ntfsutils.  Then you can use mkfs.ntfs
[05:03] <wols_> murlidhar: a header file
[05:03] <daggerx> can some1 help me
[05:03] <xborgy> d600: what i always use is the package manager search and i would type ntfs
[05:03] <fr05tbyt3> so each monitor has their own virtual desktops and whatnot
[05:03] <scifiguy951> how do i veiw deleted and saved texts andd any other useful info on moto4lin??
[05:03] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, strange... you said its usb? can you unplug, then plug it back in, then give me a dmesg | tail
[05:03] <RadicalR> Nope.
[05:03] <fr05tbyt3> two different xservers?
[05:03] <|Juan|> crd1b, the problem is not really user switching. its random
[05:03] <RadicalR> It's on IDE cables.
[05:03] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, oh.. sorry...
[05:03] <zcat[1]> fr05tbyt3, should be. probably tricky to set up though
[05:04] <murlidhar> Sitherae, edit the menu by right clicking on applications
[05:04] <gluer> chipsa964: then point the icon path to the new path
[05:04] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, what brand and model cd drive is it? do you know?
[05:04] <Chipsa964> gluer, copy the .tar.bz2 file to /usr/lib?
[05:04] <murlidhar> wols_, and where can i get the header file ?
[05:04] <Sitherae> murlidhar: No I meant like in /home/user/Programs/Pidgin
[05:04] <gluer> chipsa964: no extract it to the desktop
[05:04] <RadicalR> I can find out. One sec.
[05:04] <superfirelord42> owner, so are you downloading the tree again then?
[05:04] <owner> what will be the core diffference in gusty and hardy
[05:04] <owner> uknow
[05:04] <|Juan|> crd1b, if i lock my session and go to "change user" sometimes it crashes without even changing the user, which lets me to think that it happens whenever gdmflexiserver is invoked
[05:04] <owner> i hopping not
[05:05] <gluer> then use nautilus as sudo to copy the folder across to /usr/lib
[05:05] <Squee__> Sitherae: /home/user/Programs/ isn't generated by anything I know in ubuntu
[05:05] <murlidhar> Sitherae, is it there in applications menu?
[05:05] <superfirelord42> owner, the core diffrence, is once you get gusty working.. (which works pretty well), you will dist-upgrade to hardy
[05:05] <Chipsa964> gluer, ok, one sec
[05:05] <Sitherae> murlidhar: Yeah. even after I removed it with Synaptic
[05:05] <owner> hehe
[05:05] <Sitherae> murlidhar: And it still starts Pidgin. So pidgin is still installed :\
[05:05] <superfirelord42> owner, the major issue i know major diffrent that causes issues, is that hardy uses pulseaudio, which hates wine...
[05:05] <Squee__> Is there a way I can take a variable In bash and get the size in bytes without dumping it to a file first?
[05:05] <gluer> chipsa964: thats just the way i got it working ;-)
[05:05] <owner> thats a good one I needed that
[05:05] <scifiguy951> how do i veiw deleted and saved texts andd any other useful info on moto4lin??
[05:06] <fwaokda> whats the cmd to list all usb drives to see where they are mounted at???
[05:06] <angah> i uninstall driver but still can see in lsmod..any idea?
[05:06] <superfirelord42> angah, have you rebooted?
[05:06] <gluer> chipsa964: maybe rename the existing ff folder you dont want to overwrite it ;-)
[05:06] <xborgy> btw i just looked in gparted and it does have ntfs
[05:06] <aent> hey.... I'm trying to setup vmware-server on my server, and I'm trying to understand the networking setup... I have a server have many static IP addresses on there (i.e. eth0:0-eth0:30), and I want to assign one to a vmware server... do I use bridged or NAT?
[05:06] <xborgy> so he needs to look harder
[05:07] <superfirelord42> bridged takes one, nat creates a virtual internal
[05:07] <angah> superfirelord42: yes
[05:07] <murlidhar> Sitherae, got not idea then :(
[05:07] <angah> superfirelord42: let me try again
[05:07] <aent> so how do I assign which one the bridged one takes?
[05:07] <superfirelord42> aent, if you want to set up to use a certine interaface, you want bridged...
[05:08] <^Juan^> crd1b, it happened right on gdm after locking!
[05:08] <superfirelord42> aent, not sure on that... it should be in the vmware manuals on net... they may be able to help you more on the vmware channel... (i think we have one)
[05:08] <Sitherae> I removed Pidgin with Synaptic but it's still installed. And can be executed with the "pidgin" command
[05:08] <RadicalR> superfirelord42, LG (FOR) DVD-ROM DRD8160B
[05:08] <aent> ok thanks
[05:08] <^Juan^> crd1b, with the nv driver
[05:08] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, hold on..
[05:08] <RadicalR> What's interesting is the the system detects the drive
[05:08] <scifiguy951> how do i veiw deleted and saved texts andd any other useful info on moto4lin??
[05:08] <RadicalR> but no media
[05:08] <enterneo> suggest a dreamweaver alternative?
[05:08] <^Juan^> crd1b, now what
[05:09] <trucMuche> Quanta+
[05:09] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, strange....
[05:09] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, their is a filed bug about that drive running very slowly in hardy
[05:09] <RadicalR> well, perhaps I should file a bug that it doesn't work at all! XD
[05:09] <RadicalR> But what's odd is that it used to work before
[05:10] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, it may work, im just saying.. i noticed that... lets look a little longer first
[05:10] <|Juan|> crd1b, it happened right on gdm after locking with the nv driver
[05:10] <xborgy> scifiguy951: which phone?
[05:10] <crd1b> |Juan|: I really have no idea where the problem could be now :/
[05:10] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, dmesg | grep sr1
[05:10] <|Juan|> crd1b, so how do i get some damn attention
[05:10] <scifiguy951> razor v3r
[05:10] <wols_> !patience | superfirelord42
[05:10] <RadicalR> [   39.760444] sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 0x/48x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[05:10] <RadicalR> [   39.760494] sr 2:0:1:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1
[05:11] <|Juan|> crd1b, already posted on the forums and tried to put as many logs as i could on the bug report
[05:11] <wols_> murlidhar: so check packages.ubuntu.com which has that file and install that
[05:11] <superfirelord42> wols_, ?
[05:11] <|Juan|> crd1b, no answers on either
[05:11] <xborgy> scifiguy951: foloow this http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/Razr_V3r/V3_05
[05:11] <wols_> superfirelord42: with an attitude like yours, all you will get is a kick soonish
[05:12] <superfirelord42> wols_, im not asking for help, im suggesting a command to see a possible solution..
[05:12] <glitsj16> wols_: i think your mistaking superfirelord42 for someone else ..
[05:12] <scifiguy951> i did that i have already successfully connected to the phone. what are the files tho? which ones are useful and which ones arent?
[05:12] <wols_> superfirelord42: sorry. misread, I'm too stupid :(   meant |Juan|
[05:12] <AMDpenguin> how can i make ubuntu not send audio to my monitor speakers but only my headphones instead of both
[05:13] <superfirelord42> wols_, np... heheh
[05:13] <angah> superfirelord42: still not figure out what to do to uninstall wlan in lsmod..
[05:13] <|Juan|> wols_, whats with my attitude? im not going like HELP HELP ITS BROKEN, i tried to actually dig into it but theres just no one responding
[05:13] <xborgy> scifiguy951: http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/Razr_V3-HELP
[05:14] <superfirelord42> angah, modprobe -r module i think will remove modules... i dont know as much about wifi stuff..
[05:14] <wols_> |Juan|: if you demand help, buy a support contract at Microsoft
[05:14] <|Juan|> wols_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/244737 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823040
[05:14] <superfirelord42> wow, thats an interesting bug...
[05:15] <angah> superfirelord42: angah@openSolaris:~$ sudo modprobe -r wlan
[05:15] <angah> [sudo] password for angah:
[05:15] <angah> FATAL: Module wlan is in use.
[05:15] <Dr4k3n> hi, i'm having troubles booting ubuntu hardy, someone told me that could be a problem with my wide screen and the frecuency some one have more info about it?
[05:15] <superfirelord42> angah, hehe... openSolaris? anyways, is your wireless card in your machine?
[05:15] <levander> Dr4k3n: from the boot menu, boot into rescue mode, see if that works
[05:16] <wols_> Dr4k3n: not until you give more info
[05:16] <levander> Dr4k3n: can you be more specific about what the problem is?
[05:16] <angah> superfirelord42: yes
[05:16] <superfirelord42> angah, thats why then... if its in your machine, its using the driver, and it cannot be removed from the kernel
[05:16] <levander> angah: if you are using OpenSolaris, this isn't the right channel
[05:16] <superfirelord42> levander, i think that was a joke
[05:17] <superfirelord42> levander, the shell prompt looked ubuntuish...
[05:17] <angah> superfirelord42: ic..it's not openSolaris..i just named it
[05:17] <levander> angah: 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop' to turn off your network connections.
[05:17] <superfirelord42> angah, are you doing irc from that machine at the molment
[05:17] <superfirelord42> ?
[05:17] <levander> angah: then maybe you can remove wlan
[05:17] <angah> superfirelord42: i use eth0 right now..
[05:17] <Dr4k3n> well my problem is that when i boot from live cd i can select languaje and get in the menu.. i select install and there is no more.. it give me a black screen
[05:18] <bullgard4> "~$ LC_ALL=C sudo make menuconfig; make: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'. Stop"  What do I wrongly?
[05:18] <angah> levander: cannot remove..show fatal error
[05:18] <Dr4k3n> levander:  if i boot in rescue mode it works fine
[05:18] <levander> angah: did you shut down networking?
[05:18] <angah> levander: nop
[05:18] <superfirelord42> angah, then if you follow levanders command you will be disconnected untill you do sudo /etc/init.d/networking start afterwards
[05:18] <RadicalR> superfirelord42, did you happen to find anything?
[05:18] <RadicalR> Or were you waiting for me?
[05:18] <levander> Dr4k3n: Are you seeing a graphical or text display when you use the LiveCD?
[05:18] <angah> superfirelord42: i know that
[05:19] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, yeah, waiting for you dmesg | grep sr1 please..
[05:19] <levander> angah: That's probably what's using wlan so that you can't remove it is your network connection.
[05:19] <superfirelord42> angah, just ckecking
[05:19] <superfirelord42> levander, hehe, he went offline
[05:20] <Dr4k3n> levander:  when i boot with live cd.. it boot fine... until the menu to install.. but when i select install it don't work
[05:20] <Sitherae> My buddies in Emesene do not show up
[05:20] <murlidhar> phew
[05:20] <levander> Dr4k3n: Do you know what I mean when I say graphical vs. text on the screen?
[05:20] <superfirelord42> owner, any luck
[05:20] <Dr4k3n> i understand
[05:20] <levander> superfirelord42: Think he's figured out that when he turns off networking that he loses his internet connection yet?
[05:21] <superfirelord42> levander, i made sure to tell him first
[05:21] <Dr4k3n> levander:  i understand what u mean
[05:21] <jbroome> i found that when i turn off the monitor i can't see things
[05:21] <levander> Dr4k3n: Do you ever get to a graphical screen from the LiveCD?
[05:21] <owner> i might have some netwrok issues
[05:21] <superfirelord42> owner, same errors?
[05:21] <murlidhar> jbroome: really ? ;)
[05:21] <wols_> Dr4k3n: | doesn't work
[05:21] <Blaqlight> this seems to be getting worse and worse by the minute, now nothing will start everything crashes on launch except xchat, pidgin and eterm.
[05:21] <Dr4k3n> sometimes but i have tu restart a lot if times
[05:21] <owner> my ft client is not working
[05:22] <murlidhar> jbroome: i see a black screen on my monitor. the rest can be  seen perfectly by  me
[05:22] <l815> is there a way to fix the flash  sound issue?
[05:22] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: did you cleanout the session cache ?
[05:22] <superfirelord42> owner, how did you get it to work yesterday?
[05:22] <levander> Dr4k3n: on a command prompt, try this: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh' - that reconfigures X-Windows (the program responsible for the low-level graphical stuff)
[05:22] <superfirelord42> owner, sorry, the day before yesterday
[05:22] <owner> may its bcos i have the tftp server running
[05:22] <cpierce> l815: is it just one site or like youtube too?
[05:22] <fwaokda> qemu isn't working well for me so I'm wanting to find another program to run winXP on ubuntu with... what would any of you recommend???
[05:22] <Blaqlight> glitsj16, how do I do that?
[05:23] <Dr4k3n> levander:  ok i'll try
[05:23] <levander> fwaokda: kvm is the recommended one
[05:23] <superfirelord42> owner, could be, but i doubt it...
[05:23] <levander> fwaokda: it's what ubuntu has put the most work into integrating
[05:23] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: look for a the .cache/sessions dir in you user dir and remove them
[05:23] <Blaqlight> glitsj16, the system log is mysteriously empty. I mean completely empty not on word.
[05:23] <l815> cpierce, i mean when i play flash in firefox, I can't play music or any other audio without closing firefox first
[05:23] <superfirelord42> owner, tftp is UDP, FTP is TCP, one is not routable, the other is able to be used across the web, i doubt they are interfearing...
[05:23] <fwaokda> levander, well I can't get any of my usb devices to load on a consistent basis
[05:23] <Dr4k3n> levander:  xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[05:23] <Dr4k3n>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080718222323
[05:23] <superfirelord42> owner, if anything is, its hte dhcp server...
[05:24] <owner> well it was a matter of the folders and how the boot file was named
[05:24] <Dr4k3n> so i restart now?
[05:24] <owner> yeah
[05:24] <owner> ur right
[05:24] <owner> i will turn it off
[05:24] <fwaokda> levander, I need a usb external hdd to load up and a zune device I have but it always says it can't load them.
[05:24] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: odd indeed .. try clearing the sesson files you see in there, not the dir itself
[05:24] <levander> fwaokda: USB is tricky through emulation.  I'm using VirtualBox (about to switch to kvm) and I had to monkey around with it to get it to work.
[05:25] <Dr4k3n> levander:  that could fix my problem?
[05:25] <murlidhar> cya buddies . gotta go .
[05:25] <levander> fwaokda: Does the zune device talk UMS?  I couldn't get an MTP device to talk to virtual box.
[05:25] <fwaokda> levander, have no idea that sounds like it's over my head.
[05:25] <superfirelord42> levander, i thought zune was USB?
[05:25] <angah> levander: i remove modules but it still show in lsmod
[05:25] <levander> Dr4k3n: If you're having trouble getting a graphical display, that problem, every single time I've seen it, has been configuring X.
[05:25] <eitreach> can anyone here help me a bit with acidrip, or perhaps give me another channel where someone can?
[05:26] <fwaokda> superfirelord42, ya it is usb
[05:26] <levander> Dr4k3n: Very rarely I've seen graphics cards that just won't work with X.  I've never seen a monitor that won't work with X.
[05:26] <Dr4k3n> levander:  look i already installed ubuntu
[05:26] <Dr4k3n> when i try to boot
[05:26] <levander> angah: You 'sudo rmmod wlan' and wlan is in the output of lsmod?
[05:26] <superfirelord42> levander, qemu and VBox have a way to pipe USB through
[05:26] <Dr4k3n> in normal mode it give me a black screen too
[05:27] <levander> Dr4k3n: That very well could be a problem in your X config.  Did you try the dpkg-reconfigure command?
[05:27] <eitreach> Dr4k3n: it is most probably because of settings with your graphics adapter, not with your monitor.
[05:27] <fwaokda> superfirelord42, well I read your supposed to use this command, "-usbdevice host:bus.adr but it always says it can't open it.
[05:27] <Dr4k3n> ok i understand
[05:27] <levander> superfirelord42: Yeah, I got VBox to do it, but only with UMS devices, not with an MTP device.
[05:27] <angah> levander: need to reboot back..
[05:27] <l815> my laptop screen has 2 refresh rates (58 and 60), which should I choose?
[05:27] <Dr4k3n> well i'll try to reboot again.. with the change that u give me levander
[05:27] <levander> superfirelord42: Your external hard drive will be UMS, I don't know what zune uses.
[05:27] <superfirelord42> fwaokda, i think thats the command for QEMU
[05:28] <fwaokda> superfirelord42, ya thats what im currently using
[05:28] <eitreach> Dr4k3n: try having someone give you a plain vanilla xorg.conf.
[05:28] <SeveredCross> l815: 60.
[05:28] <levander> Dr4k3n: no, don't reboot
[05:28] <superfirelord42> fwaokda, oh, i thought yall where using vbox
[05:28] <Dr4k3n> levander:  ok
[05:28] <l815> SeveredCross, thanks
[05:28] <Blaqlight> omfg I think I found the problem. I tried to open up audacious and guess what.. says there is a GTK Engine issue.
[05:28] <levander> Dr4k3n: directly after running that command, you should be able to do a 'startx' and see if X-Windows is working.
[05:28] <Dr4k3n> look i'll try to explain more.. i have a ati radeon 9200 se of 128 mb
[05:28] <SeveredCross> You're welcome l815.
[05:29] <fwaokda> ppl in the qemu channel aren't usually "talkative" when it comes to questions would ppl in the kvm channel mind if I asked them qemu questions you think?
[05:29] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, did it work?
[05:29] <SeveredCross> Dr4k3n: Sounds like you want the radeon driver.
[05:29] <Blaqlight> so then how do I fix the GTK engine to display right?
[05:29] <Dr4k3n> levander:  right now i'm in graphical mode
[05:29] <Dr4k3n> it works fine
[05:29] <levander> Dr4k3n: well, what's the problem then?
[05:29] <Dr4k3n> the problem is booting
[05:29] <Dr4k3n> y only can boot in recovery mode
[05:29] <superfirelord42> fwaokda, probably, the smaller channels take more patiance, i have seen people go over an hour in #winehq for someone to get on
[05:29] <glitsj16> Blaqlight: well that's something to work with i guess, i gotta go to the work .. hope you can get things back to normal, goodluck
[05:29] <glitsj16> bye all
[05:29] <Dr4k3n> when i boot in recovery mode.. then select boot normal.. it work fine
[05:30] <levander> Dr4k3n: have you played with your usplash screen at all?
[05:30] <owner>  i am going to reboot my machine i will be back
[05:30] <CoolFox> hey, i found this to fix my problem with the vertical scroll not working, but does anbody know about horizontal?
[05:30] <CoolFox> http://computerboom.blogspot.com/2008/04/how-to-enable-mouse-wheel-scrolling-in.html
[05:30] <Dr4k3n> levander:  no
[05:30] <superfirelord42> owner, ok
[05:30] <Dr4k3n> i didn't touched my splash
[05:30] <levander> Dr4k3n: 'dmesg | less' and see if you see any errors
[05:30] <Dr4k3n> ok
[05:30] <CoolFox> specifically, this is VMware.
[05:30] <superfirelord42> CoolFox, did you install the vmware tools?
[05:31] <Blaqlight> this window manager uses various elements from Gnome including the GTK theme engine. I can't change the GTK theme engine from within here and I can't get Gnome to fully load. what do I do now?
[05:31] <CoolFox> not gonna.
[05:31] <CoolFox> its not stable.
[05:31] <CoolFox> it crashes every damn time i try to install it.
[05:31] <AMDpenguin> is ext3 better than ntfs?
[05:31] <mneptok> AMDpenguin: yes
[05:31] <superfirelord42> CoolFox, the OS crashes, or the install crashes?
[05:31] <AMDpenguin> I find ext3 survives more crashes than ntfs
[05:31] <CoolFox> which os?
[05:32] <DJ_HaMsTa> could someone explain to me the usage of ~ and where it leads? like ~/.ssh  ?
[05:32] <CoolFox> ubuntu boots incorectly.
[05:32] <superfirelord42> CoolFox, when you install the vmware tools, the guest
[05:32] <levander> Dr4k3n: you can try editing the grub menu and taking off the 'splash' and 'quiet'off the boot options for the normal boot grub profile.  I think maybe change splash to nosplash is what I've done in the past.
[05:32] <superfirelord42> DJ_HaMsTa, that expands to your home dir
[05:32] <Flannel> DJ_HaMsTa: its an alias to your homedir
[05:32] <mneptok> DJ_HaMsTa: ~ = "my user home directory"
[05:32] <DJ_HaMsTa> ah i see
[05:32] <DJ_HaMsTa> thank you
[05:32] <levander> Dr4k3n: that way, the splash screen isn't hiding any errors
[05:32] <superfirelord42> DJ_HaMsTa, so ~ == /home/DJ_HaMsTa
[05:32] <Blaqlight> anyone have any idea how to fix this GTK theme engine problem?
[05:32] <Sitherae> how do I switch between compiz and x?
[05:33] <CoolFox> ubuntu crashes on the reboot right after installing.
[05:33] <levander> Sitherae: compiz runs on top of x
[05:33] <DJ_HaMsTa> after creating a /.ssh how come when im home i type dir or ls and i dont see .ssh ?
[05:33] <mneptok> Sitherae: you don't. they always run at the same time
[05:33] <levander> Sitherae: you don't switch between the two
[05:33] <a_robot> wo xiang zhi dao zen me da zi
[05:33] <CoolFox> I follow the instructions to the letter, and this is off of a VIRGIN install.
[05:33] <Sitherae> levander: Then how do I get rid of it?
[05:33] <mneptok> !cn > a_robot
[05:33] <levander> Sitherae: get rid of what?
[05:33] <SeveredCross> DJ_HaMsTa: Because . folders are hidden.
[05:33] <SeveredCross> Anything prefixed with a . is hidden from normal ls.
[05:33] <a_robot> chinese
[05:33] <Sitherae> levander: How do I stop compiz?
[05:33] <SeveredCross> You need ls -a to see hidden folders.
[05:33] <a_robot> china
[05:33] <Caphi> My music players won't play music. Rhythmbox errors "Failed to connect stream: invalid argument." This started today.
[05:33] <SeveredCross> Sitherae: Alt-F2, metacity --replace
[05:33] <mneptok> Sitherae: turn off effects in the UI settings
[05:33] <l815> SeveredCross, sorry to bother again, but does it matter if its 58 or 60 on LCD?
[05:34] <SeveredCross> l815: 60 is the technical native resolution of all LCD's.
[05:34] <gluer> a+robot: what china?
[05:34] <Sitherae> SeveredCross: ty
[05:34] <superfirelord42> CoolFox, strange, i have used them before, well have you installed only peices of it before, like just the mouse driver?
[05:34] <levander> Sitherae: In Gutsy (I'm not on Hardy yet), go to System -> Preferences -> Advanced Desktop Effect Settings and choose "None".
[05:34] <levander> Sitherae: I think that's what you want.
[05:34] <unsungx> hey anyone know how to change my grub splash with hardy!?
[05:34] <l815> SeveredCross, oh okay, just asking because 58 was default
[05:34] <CoolFox> mouse driver?
[05:34] <cobber2005> Anyone gets flickering after waking up from suspending in Hardy?  I don't have nVidia...
[05:35] <fwaokda> blah I think I'm gonna go with virtualbox over qemu see if it works for me better.  Can I keep my windows.img I've already installed to use with virtualbox or do I have to reinstall it for Vbox?
[05:35] <superfirelord42> CoolFox, yeah, basicly the VMware installer installs a bunch of drivers
[05:35] <jerome1232> unsungx: easiest way is to sudo apt-get install startup-manager
[05:35] <levander> fwaokda: reinstall
[05:35] <CoolFox> i've been using it without anything.
[05:35] <superfirelord42> CoolFox, you can just install the mouse driver... i dont remember how though...
[05:35] <fwaokda> levander, how do I uninstall all the qemu stuff on my computer and get rid of the windows.img ?
[05:35] <CoolFox> to transfer files, i've set upa  little network. get a little slow since it has to go across my wireless router, but its been sufficent
[05:35] <namire> hey I just installed Hardy Heron and it's being a bitch, wtf: http://www.pastebin.org/52592
[05:36] <namire> why are those packages not installable
[05:36] <levander> fwaokda: 'sudo apt-get remove qemu', and you can just remove the windows.img like a regular file
[05:36] <namire> it does it for other programs too
[05:36] <namire> i.e. samba
[05:36] <fwaokda> levander, where is the .img likely located at?
[05:36] <CoolFox> meh, i'm gonna make a new install and try to install it again.
[05:36] <RadicalR> superfirelord42, did what work?
[05:36] <RadicalR> You didn't tell me to do anything ~_~
[05:36] <CoolFox> experiment around a bit.
[05:36] <sysop1972> mneptok: You still here?
[05:36] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, did the command return a list of events for sr1?
[05:37] <RadicalR> I'm sorry, I didn't get the command?
[05:37] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, dmesg | grep sr1
[05:37] <levander> fwaokda: 'locate "*img"'
[05:37] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, hehe... its hard to catch stuff in here sometimes...
[05:37] <fwaokda> levander, thanks!
[05:37] <levander> namire: make sure universe and multiverse are enabled, then do a 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[05:37] <axisys> how do I check how many disks I have in this server?
[05:37] <Caphi> As of today, all my music players/browsers are unable to play any of my tracks. VLC alone plays both tracks and playlists fine, but I've tested Banshee and Rhythmbox and they both mark every single song unusable.
[05:38] <RadicalR> superfirelord42, [   39.760444] sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 0x/48x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[05:38] <RadicalR> [   39.760494] sr 2:0:1:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1
[05:38] <RadicalR> That's all it's giving me
[05:38] <axisys> fdisk -l shows on /dev/sda{1,2,3}
[05:38] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, thast all it gives...
[05:38] <RadicalR> Yes
[05:38] <RadicalR> That's it.
[05:38] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, well we learned a bit... it isnt IDE.... its scsi.... heheh....
[05:39] <RadicalR> That's strange..
 how would I do that, plz
[05:39] <RadicalR> Hmm, that's strange.
[05:39] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, do you know its ide? if so, that could be the issue
[05:39] <CoolFox> you know, i really love how fast ubuntu installs.
[05:39] <RadicalR> It should be IDE
[05:39] <Dr4k3n> levander leave the room
[05:39] <CoolFox> only takes like 15 min.
[05:39] <Dr4k3n> :S
[05:39] <sCOTTo> hey guys if I want to edit web code in ubuntu ssh / terminal - what is teh best program to use - i need one with line numbers and maybe colours etc etc...
[05:40] <sysop1972> If I am installing Ubuntu Server and I want to install LAMP and a GUI do I need to F6 for other options before I click on the install ubuntu?
[05:40] <RadicalR> Doesn't Ubuntu now detect IDE as SCSI?
[05:40] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, is it a dell?
[05:40] <RadicalR> Thankfully no.
[05:40] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, i thought it assigns all drive names as scsi
[05:40] <RadicalR> However, it's a custom computer I built.
[05:40] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, it could, that could be the root of the issue
[05:40] <RadicalR> Well, I had to use all_generic_ide
[05:41] <Guest87492> ad orang INDO nggak?
[05:41] <RadicalR> at the boot prompt.
[05:41] <CoolFox> RadicalR, wha? it sees it as SCSI. what do you mean it sees it as IDE if its SCSI?
[05:41] <axisys> how do check how many disks I have in my server?
[05:41] <axisys> s/how do/how to/
[05:41] <superfirelord42> CoolFox, exactly as we said... it thinks its a scsi.. its an ide
[05:41] <RadicalR> And I had to use the Irqpoll to stop the error message.
[05:41] <HymnToLife> axisys: sudo fdisk -l
[05:42] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, thats what you used to use before updating?
[05:42] <RadicalR> Yeah
[05:42] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, have you tried that since updating?
[05:42] <Dr4k3n> someone can read my dmesg to see if i have some error?
[05:42] <axisys> HymnToLife: thnx
[05:42] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, what happens?
[05:43] <CoolFox> WOAH.
[05:43] <RadicalR> superfirelord42, I'm trying to find it.
[05:43] <superfirelord42> ok
[05:43] <CoolFox> what do you do if you accidently removed your applications/places/system menu from your top panel?
[05:43] <RadicalR> Found it.
[05:43] <RadicalR> ata3.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen Ubuntu
[05:44] <CoolFox> oh crap crap crap crap
[05:44] <Caphi> CoolFox: Right click and add it back?
[05:44] <sysop1972> If I am installing Ubuntu Server and I want to install LAMP and a GUI do I need to F6 for other options before I click on the install ubuntu?
[05:45] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, interesting.... im not as sure on this one... the garunteed way would to be to compile a kernel tailored for that machine, so we know it wont use the wrong drivers
[05:45] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, but that would be over the top
[05:45] <namire> here's my sources.list file; http://www.pastebin.org/52597
[05:45] <namire> is there an item that shouldn't be uncommented
[05:45] <l815> are there any safe "junk" cleaners for linux?
[05:46] <RadicalR> Alright, one more question...
[05:46] <namire> I'm getting this error; http://www.pastebin.org/52592
[05:46] <superfirelord42> RadicalR, i think its definatly a regression of some sort... of what, or how to fix it, at this point. i am not sure...
[05:46] <RadicalR> Hmm
[05:46] <RadicalR> Alright, thanks for the help. I'm sure I'll find something.
[05:46] <junior> but
[05:46] <RadicalR> My other question has to do with pulseaudio...
[05:47] <RadicalR> For some reason, I can only have one application to have sound
[05:47] <junior> hello bang!!
[05:48] <namire> help help
[05:48] <namire> y I cant install things?? http://www.pastebin.org/52592
[05:48] <namire> "it is not installable"!!!
[05:48] <namire> I had vlc on friesty
[05:48] <Tikek> RadicalR, sorry bout that.. anyways... good luck...
[05:48] <namire> no hardy no likey
[05:49] <Caphi> Can someone help me?
[05:49] <namire> *no wriky
[05:49] <derekS> anyone want to help me wiht a networking question? I do a hostname -d and it provides my isp's hostname. Because of this, i am not able to ping other computers in my network (behind a router) by hostname. any suggestions on how i can solve this?
[05:49] <superfirelord42_> why does it keep randomly changing my nick?
[05:49] <RadicalR> I suppose Pulseaudio is hated here?
[05:49] <superfirelord42_> RadicalR, pulseaudio? why?
[05:49] <RadicalR> Im having trouble with it.
[05:49] <superfirelord42_> RadicalR, it has some compat issues with some apps is the main problem.. like wine
[05:50] <d600> i need a program that will make ntfs filesystems
[05:50] <RadicalR> I can only have one application to have sound at a time.
[05:50] <RadicalR> No, I mean ANY one program
[05:50] <gnomefreak> RadicalR: hardy?
[05:50] <jerome1232> so does anybody know how to get a system sound to play when closeing windows, or is this just not possible under gnome
[05:50] <RadicalR> Yes
[05:50] <gnomefreak> RadicalR: set PA to default
[05:50] <superfirelord42_> RadicalR, pulseaudio doesnt cause that... a diffrent audio is causing that...
[05:51] <gnomefreak> theres a wiki that gives you ideas on what to do and IIRC it gives you help with some problems i think
[05:51] <gnomefreak> superfirelord42_: pulse audio fixes that
[05:51] <superfirelord42_> gnomefreak, yeah... i know... i didnt see your response before mine.... sry..
[05:51] <RadicalR> Yeah, it doesn't like to work though
[05:52] <susanto> lg
[05:52] <d600> need program that will make ntfs partitions
[05:52] <name_name> test?
[05:52] <superfirelord42_> d600, did you try gparted?
[05:52] <superfirelord42_> name_name, we see test?
[05:52] <gnomefreak> RadicalR: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[05:52] <RadicalR> Hmm, it doesn't like to work like that...
[05:52] <d600> gparted doesnt make ntfs
[05:53] <TigranG> Hi. I have Ubuntu Server edition running in a vmware under windows. It was working fine for a long time and now I got nothing. I cant ping it and I cant access the site. How might I go about debugging this?
[05:53] <superfirelord42_> TigranG, does it boot?
[05:54] <SeveredCross> Is it booted? :P
[05:54] <DJ_HaMsTa> lol
[05:54] <TigranG> Yea, I can see that samba is running, apache2 is running. They're all configured the same way. But nothing.
[05:54] <superfirelord42_> SeveredCross, i am hoping he knows if its not booted... hehe..
[05:54] <axisys> how do I disable cups on a server ?
[05:54] <berent> I installed vmware on ubuntu hardy and started the server . Even the management interface on browser opens up. but for some reason console doesn't open . WHy?
[05:54] <gnub> Can someone help me figure out how I get the drive icon on my desktop that I created for a partition I just mounted?
[05:54] <Spaceraver> hello everyone... anybody up for providing me with some help on fstab? i have tried google on how to get the uuid..
[05:54] <superfirelord42_> TigranG, can the ubuntu box reach the network?
[05:54] <curtis> does anyone know how to get free ringtones for verizon wireless?
[05:54] <gnub> I created a mount point in /media and edited fstab but no desktop icon
[05:55] <superfirelord42_> TigranG, and do you have it set up as a NAT or a bridge?
[05:55] <TigranG> Bridge
[05:55] <TigranG> superfirelord42_: I see why its not working
[05:55] <junior> what
[05:55] <superfirelord42_> TigranG, why?
[05:55] <gigo> how can I tell ubuntu to treat the actual time in the CPU clock as the IST time? currently, it is treating the CPU clock as UTC time.
[05:55] <TigranG> superfirelord42_: Nvm. Its on a different network now somehow, <IP_ADDRESS>, my network is 192.168.1.x
[05:55] <junior> exit
[05:55] <TigranG> superfirelord42_: dunno how it changed :S
[05:56] <superfirelord42_> TigranG, at least it didnt virtually catch on fire...
[05:56] <junior> tem algum brasileiro por ai?
[05:56] <d600> how could i make ntfs gparted doesnt support ntfs
[05:56] <TigranG> superfirelord42_: lol
[05:56] <legend2440> Spaceraver: in terminal   sudo blkid
[05:57] <Spaceraver> thx
[05:57] <DeFirence> anyone around that will help me with a routing issue? #iptables and #netfilter have been dead for hours, its 7am and ive been trying to get this working all night (and 2 weeks before today) :/
[05:57] <Caphi> So starting just now, VLC is the only music player I have that will recognize either tracks or playlists. All the media browsers I've tried (the one that populate their own libraries and stuff) will not play songs. Rhythmbox errors "Failed to connect stream: invalid argument." Why might this be?
[05:58] <axisys> anyone knows how do disable a service like cupsys? in sol 10 svcadm disable service does that .. so it sticks a reboot
[05:58] <superfirelord42_> Caphi, where are you trying to play it from
[05:58] <Chipsa964> my sound gets disabled when coming back from hibernation....how can i fix this?
[05:58] <Caphi> Where am I trying to play it from? Out of the library in the browser.
[05:59] <Caphi> I've even cleared the library and had it repopulate it. The songs are still broken.
[05:59] <Caphi> The files still exist, VLC plays them and playlists just fine.
[05:59] <superfirelord42_> the library in the browser, from a website?
[05:59] <name_name> why my ubuntu no worky!\
[05:59] <name_name> @__@
[05:59] <Caphi> No, like Rhythmbox and Banshee.
[05:59] <Shinpo> ello all, I've started using vsftpd with my Ubuntu server installs but I've encountered a puzzling problem. Perhaps you guys can help? Uploading a single file to the vsftp server goes fast. But if I upload many small files the transfer rates drop to a few bytes per second and then eventually times out. Any ideas why this would be? I've replicated this on 3 servers so far.
[05:59] <Caphi> Media browsers, you see.
[05:59] <superfirelord42_> Caphi, sorry, file browser...
[05:59] <berent> !vmware
[06:00] <superfirelord42_> Caphi, what types of media, acc? mp3?
[06:00] <Blaqlight> ok fixed the GTK-theme problem yet nothing will actually load. it now seems that everything is broken
[06:00] <Caphi> mp3, mostly. Banshee was working just yesterday.
[06:00] <name_name> !VLC
[06:01] <superfirelord42_> Shinpo, the smaller the files, the more stops and starts it has, that explains the speed... but timeout, im not sure on that...
[06:01] <superfirelord42_> Caphi, what could have changed between today and yesterday?
[06:01] <gnub> Anyone know how I get my disk icon to show up on my desktop for a partition I mounted in /Media
[06:01] <RadicalR> Question, what is the command line for Pulseaudio Preferences?
[06:01] <Caphi> Dunno. I restarted today to let some updates through.
[06:01] <RadicalR> It's not in the menu.
[06:01] <Blaqlight> I can't get nautilus to load so I cannot get to the lists of files. therefore I cannot fix the possible session issue either.
[06:01] <legend2440> gnub: in terminal   gconf-editor  browse to  /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible   check volumes visible box
[06:02] <superfirelord42_> Caphi, hmmm. i wonder what updates
[06:02] <superfirelord42_> does anyone know how to tell the last updates a computer with ubuntu took?
[06:02] <Caphi> The last few days worth. It's been asking for a restart for that long.
[06:02] <Shinpo> superfirelord42. thanks, that's kinda what I figured but didn't think the transfer speeds would take such a hit.
[06:03] <superfirelord42_> Shinpo, but it doesnt explain hte timout though...
[06:03] <gnub> legend2440, volumes visable is checked, I have 2 other paritions on my desktop just not this oen
[06:03] <superfirelord42_> Shinpo, i think that could be a bug
[06:03] <superfirelord42_> Caphi, the thing is, if that was the most recent system change, there is a good chance the problem came from them...
[06:03] <Shinpo> superfirelord42, Hrm, I'll try installing a different FTP server and see what happens.
[06:04] <superfirelord42_> so if we know what they are, we narrow down the possible problems
[06:04] <amenado> Shinpo-> what client do you use to xfer files?
[06:05] <superfirelord42_> thats a good point... the client could cause hte timeout...
[06:05] <Chipsa964> my sound gets disabled when coming back from hibernation....how can i fix this?
[06:05] <legend2440> gnub: if you want to paste   /etc/fstab i can take a look. as you know if its mounted in /media it should show
[06:05] <superfirelord42_> legend2440, could be a permissions issue, if hte folder is under root...
[06:06] <Shinpo> amenado, I was using Cyberduck (on a mac) and then I also tried Transmit, CaptianFTP, Yummy, Fetch and then command line FTP. All performed the same, except the command line version, I kept getting "Illegal PORT Command try using PASV"
[06:06] <gnub> /dev/sda3 /media/Data ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[06:07] <gnub> One disk icon on the desktop has no information in fstab
[06:07] <superfirelord42> gnub, did you create the folder as root?
[06:07] <RadicalR> Good news, firefox isn't crashing anymore.
[06:07] <RadicalR> Bad news, I'm still not getting audio
[06:07] <amenado> Shinpo-> am not familiar with mac clients..do you have another os with an ftp client you can try perhaps?
[06:07] <gnub> superfirelord42, I created it as sudo so ya
[06:07] <legend2440> gnub: as superfirelord42  said check permissions of Data
[06:08] <gnub> drwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4096 2008-07-18 11:02 Data
[06:08] <Shinpo> Yeah, I've got my mac triple booted. OSX, Vista (blah!) and Ubuntu 7.10.. I'll try it in one of those.
[06:09] <superfirelord42> looks right
[06:09] <superfirelord42> i think.... (its been a while)
[06:09] <Caphi> ...so that was me restarting, on a whim.
[06:09] <Caphi> And it all works now.
[06:09] <gnub> I can see the data if I go into /media/Data just wondering why the icon doesnt show up on the desktop
[06:09] <superfirelord42> Caphi, really?
[06:09] <Caphi> Quite so. I am listening to Rhythmbox right now.
[06:09] <superfirelord42> Caphi, its amazing what restarts do, on windows,  or linux...
[06:09] <Caphi> Darndest thing.
[06:10] <legend2440> gnub: did you reboot since creating Data folder?
[06:10] <gnub> legend2440, negative
[06:11] <Caphi> Well, thanks for your time.
[06:11] <Caphi> And now, I take my leave.
[06:11] <legend2440> gnub:  or try  sudo mount -a
[06:11] <gnub> did that too
[06:12] <legend2440> gnub: how about   sudo umount -a   then sudo mount -a
[06:12] <r2s> if a Access Point served as a Repeater.. will I be able to connect a wifi client to it??
[06:12] <fwaokda> anyone here use a lapboard to place their laptop on while sitting on the couch? Looking for a recommendation.
[06:13] <sysop1972> I am just install 804 server.  I am doing a manual partition on a 320GB drive for a file server to windows workstations.  Could someone please give me info as to what partitions to make?
[06:14] <r2s> sysop1972: only one hard drive??
[06:14] <r2s> not configured in raid??
[06:14] <gnub> legend2440, that worked
[06:14] <cappicard> hmm... i have firefox 3 on 64-bit hardy, and i got no sound in flash
[06:14] <gnub> So where am I normally supposed to create mount points, in /mnt or /media
[06:14] <r2s> a file server needs a nice raid setup for security of data
[06:14] <gnub> like whats the difference
[06:15] <sysop1972> r2s: I will be adding another 320gb later for more storage.  So I would like some of the primary drive to work as data storage also
[06:15] <legend2440> gnub: as far as i know /media
[06:15] <superfirelord42> r2s, what was that about an access point?
[06:15] <r2s> sysop1972:  I  mean RAID... like mirroring 3  320GB hard drive
[06:15] <r2s> superfirelord42: if a Access Point served as a Repeater.. will I be able to connect a wifi client to it??
[06:15] <superfirelord42> you should be able to...
[06:16] <sysop1972> r2s: I know but we arent doing the raid thing.. just backups and an image of the drive when it is all working
[06:16] <superfirelord42> r2s, you should, it partially depends whether you its repeating to another access point, or its just acting as an extender
[06:16] <Shinpo> r2s, I would look into WDS if your looking into extending the range of your wifi, I've got that setup to connect my xbox to my wifi network without buying their expensive adapter.
[06:16] <r2s> superfirelord42:  I got this setup =>  bldg A (AP)---> Bldg B...(AP=Repeater)
[06:16] <r2s> ok
[06:16] <r2s> sysop1972: hmm
[06:17] <legend2440> gnub: The /mnt directory and its subdirectories are intended for use as the temporary mount points for mounting storage devices, such as CDROMs, floppy disks and USB (universal serial bus) key drives.
[06:17] <sysop1972> r2s: could you help me with the partitioning?
[06:17] <r2s> sysop1972: sure.. but if you wish it's expandable later.. I suggest you a LVM setup
[06:17] <gnub> I thought it was the other way around
[06:17] <gnub> isnt /media for that
[06:17] <legend2440> gnub:   http://www.linfo.org/mnt.html
[06:18] <superfirelord42> gnub, if i recall, media is for more permante mount points
[06:18] <r2s> r2s: like  200MB = /boot    4GB=SWAP  the rest in LVM
[06:18] <sysop1972> r2s: With the lvm I worry that if one drive goes it will also take down the 2nd drive
[06:18] <r2s> sysop1972:like  200MB = /boot    4GB=SWAP  the rest in LVM
[06:18] <superfirelord42> gnub, so your cdrom drive would goto media... if you where making a quick iso, it would goto mount
[06:19] <superfirelord42> gnub, and diffrent distros treat it diffrently, if you use feather linux (a debian dirivitive), you fill find no /media and all mountpoints are in /mnt
[06:19] <r2s> sysop1972: no lvm is use to make the main partition .(example home) expandable later if you want to add new drives later)
[06:19] <l815> while playing music my laptop gets hotter, is this normal behavior?
[06:19] <amenado> sysop1972-> try lvm and limit the partitions (8e) to like 40gig each to make it flexible
[06:19] <gnub> I see
[06:19] <andra> hui
[06:20] <superfirelord42> andra, ?
[06:20] <User__> I heard that from a friend that with 8.04, you can install ubuntu without making a seperate partition and that you can uninstall it in "Add/Remove Programs"
[06:20] <User__> Is this true?
[06:20] <superfirelord42> User__, you are talking about wubi
[06:20] <warriorforgod> User__: That is called wubi
[06:20] <superfirelord42> its a special ubuntu installer
[06:20] <agentjon> http://wubi-installer.org/
[06:20] <r2s> sysop1972: example setup:....    200MB ext3 /boot   4GB swap     20GB ext3 / or root   the rest create an LVM group and logical volume like basys and use the rest of HDD
[06:20] <superfirelord42> !wubi | User__
[06:21] <sysop1972> Is it hard to add a drive later on if I don't use lvm?
[06:21] <gnub> What should my fstab entry look like for another ext3 partition
[06:21] <r2s> exampke you still got 240GB free.. you c
[06:21] <gnub> I have /dev/sda5 /media/name but what do I put after that
[06:21] <derekS> anyone want to help me wiht a networking question? I do a hostname -d and it provides my isp's hostname. Because of this, i am not able to ping other computers in my network (behind a router) by hostname. any suggestions on how i can solve this?
[06:22] <nickrud> gnub  UUID=<device uuid> /media/name ext3 defaults 0 2
[06:22] <nickrud> gnub you can find the device uuid with   sudo blkid
[06:22] <r2s> sysop1972: yeah.. in case your current  /home (which users store all their data) are full.. and you just add another drive.. you might create another directory like /home2 .. but cannot be /home
[06:23] <r2s> sysop1972: but in LVM you just add the new drive in you LVM group and nothing more to be done
[06:23] <sysop1972> r2s: so without lvm I would need to create new shared folders?  A new drive would not increase the space in the old shares?
[06:23] <Baby_Shambl3s> hi how cna I make my wine menu show?
[06:23] <Chipsa964> my sound gets disabled when coming back from hibernation....how can i fix this?
[06:24] <amenado> derekS-> how many interfaces does your host have?
[06:24] <gnub> nickrud, What if the folder I created in /media has a space so its /media/Data 2
[06:24] <sysop1972> r2s: and with LVM adding a new drive would automatically increase the storage in my old shares?
[06:24] <gnub> fstab doesnt like that when I try to mount it
[06:24] <r2s> sysop1972: in LVM you can maintain the same directory like  all user uses /HOME... even adding new space for hard drive
[06:24] <nickrud> gnub /media/Data\040\2
[06:24] <r2s> sysop1972: r2s: and with LVM adding a new drive would automatically increase the storage in my old shares? ----- YES
[06:25] <AutoMatriX> hi folks
[06:25] <nickrud> gnub erm, /media/Data\0402 that is, no second slash
[06:25] <Flannel> r2s, sysop1972, not automatically.
[06:25] <sysop1972> r2s: is it stable?
[06:25] <superfirelord42> nickrud, what does \0402 tell fstab to do?
[06:25] <derekS> amenado: what do you mean how many interfaces does my host have?
[06:25] <derekS> amenado: i have one nic card
[06:25] <nickrud> superfirelord42 it's ascii for SPACE
[06:25] <r2s> Flannel: r2s, sysop1972, not automatically. Yeah need to do some partition management.. and volume management
[06:25] <superfirelord42> nickrud, ah, ty..
[06:25] <Shinpo> derekS, look in the file /etc/hostname and see what it says in there. That should hold the desired hostname, then make the appropriate changes in /etc/hosts
[06:26] <nickrud> superfirelord42 if my memory serves
[06:26] <jerome1232> boot
[06:26] <r2s> sysop1972: r2s: is it stable? --he'll yeah
[06:26] <Flannel> r2s: Even if you add it to your volume group, logical volumes need not increase in size
[06:26] <l815> while playing music my laptop gets hotter, is this normal behavior?
[06:26] <amenado> derekS-> if you have one interface, what is its ip address? and is it the gateway or better yet, can you elaborate on your network layout?
[06:26] <btfx> Hey guys, I'm trying to configure my three network interfaces via the network manager, after messing with the manual configuration tool, I think I got them all to work, but now my wireless interfaces won't connect.  The vantage point is great, I've had measly internal laptop wifi connect from worse places....
[06:26] <btfx> ...http://pastebin.com/m2ac7c394
[06:26] <r2s> Flannel: Flannel: r2s: Even if you add it to your volume group, logical volumes need not increase in size -- Yeah
[06:26] <derekS> Shinpo: /etc/hostname has the right information, and i don't want to hardcode
[06:26] <gnub> nickrud, yep that did it
[06:26] <Baby_Shambl3s> hi installed wine but the menu aint  showing in my ubuntu how cna I make it show?
[06:27] <sysop1972> r2s: Ok this might be a lot to ask but I am at the setup screen.. could you step me through this so I dont screw it up?
[06:27] <btfx> l815: CD music?
[06:27] <gnub> Thanks guys, I think I understand mounting a partition and fstab much  better now
[06:27] <nickrud> gnub if I may, I really suggest not using spaces in directories, they can be a pain
[06:27] <l815> btfx, no banshee
[06:27] <superfirelord42> Baby_Shambl3s, have you installed apps into wine yet?
[06:27] <btfx> l815: mp3 encoded?
[06:27] <r2s> sysop1972: hmm...
[06:27] <gnub> nickrud, how so
[06:27] <Baby_Shambl3s> superfirelord42: yeap plenty of them which dont show or act as they are supposed to
[06:27] <Spaceraver> can anyone tell me why generating locales takes up 100% cpu, but as far as i can see there is no disk io
[06:27] <derekS> amenado: i have one router (old netgear) with 4 ethernet ports. I then have 4 computers attached to the ethernet ports. They all have hostnames setup properly in /etc/hostname. I want to ping comp1 from comp2 and have it go throuhg
[06:27] <r2s> sysop1972: I'll be gone in a minute or two.. seek help for other in here...
[06:27] <btfx> l815: mp3s take more cpu to decode than you may think, your comp is far fro idling when you play music
[06:27] <derekS> without using ip address
[06:28] <sysop1972> r2s: so can we keep the system information in a partition that doesnt use the lvm so I cam image the partition?
[06:28] <amenado> gnub-> spaces are not normally used for filenames or directory names in linux systems
[06:28] <nickrud> gnub   like   cp <file>   /media/Data 2 won't work as you expect, you'd have to remember to use  /media/Data\ 2 every time.
[06:28] <l815> btfx, yah mp3's and such. So I guess the answer is yes. Thanks :)
[06:28] <Shinpo> derekS, when you are trying to ping the other systems on the network are you trying to ping their hostnames or IP addresses?
[06:28] <r2s> sysop1972: and LVM cannot be performed using the LiveCD of ubuntu
[06:28] <btfx> n/p
[06:28] <superfirelord42> Baby_Shambl3s, to get them to show up, most people make .desktop files, but hte most common way of execing a wine program, is wine program.exe
[06:28] <derekS> Shinpo: hostnames, obviously
[06:28] <arvind_khadri> gnub, because while deleting them you will have to use escape sequences :P
[06:28] <btfx> Hey guys, I'm trying to configure my three network interfaces via the network manager, after messing with the manual configuration tool, I think I got them all to work, but now my wireless interfaces won't connect.  The vantage point is great too. http://pastebin.com/m2ac7c394
[06:28] <superfirelord42> Baby_Shambl3s, you can make links to this command on your desktop if you prefer as apposed to opening a terminal
[06:28] <HappyHater> Spaceraver, it's a bug, happened to me while upgrading
[06:29] <gnub> So I should just change them so there are no spaces basically
[06:29] <nickrud> yep
[06:29] <Baby_Shambl3s> superfirelord42: i wnat it to show in my app menu it creates the desktop icons but it doesnt show in my app menu
[06:29] <Spaceraver> is there a workaround HappyHater?
[06:29] <BonezAU> Hi, does anyone know how to install the driver for a Nvidia 9600GT in Hardy? The nvidia-glx-new package from the repos does not work.
[06:29] <bullgard4> Why is there no contents in my /var/log/boot?
[06:29] <superfirelord42> Baby_Shambl3s, have you tried dragging the icons into your app menus?
[06:29] <amenado> derekS-> what is the ip address of your host?
[06:29] <jordan> Spaceraver, There are conflicting reports, see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/249340
[06:29] <derekS> amenado: which host?
[06:30] <HappyHater> I had to 'sudo killall locale-gen' for the install to complete... it finally sorted the locale out later when I installed something with apt
[06:30] <derekS> amenado: i have <IP_ADDRESS> as router, and 2-5 as computers
[06:30] <amenado> derekS-> the one you are having issues with
[06:30] <sysop1972> r2s: How do you know if it is the live cd? I downloaded this from ubuntu.com
[06:30] <Ahadiel> Baby_Shambl3s, sudo apt-get install alacarte, then right-click on "Applications" and go to "edit menu".
[06:30] <derekS> amenado: all
[06:30] <derekS> i can't ping any via hostname
[06:30] <Dial_tone> what can I use to save a portion of a video to another video file? example from 45 minutes in to 50 minutes in?
[06:30] <Ahadiel> Baby_Shambl3s, From there you can add/edit/remove things from your Applications' menu.
[06:30] <Shinpo> derekS, Well then comp1 will not know of comp2's hostname unless it is either listed in the /etc/hosts file or you have a DNS server setup on one of you systems on the local network. If you do have a DNS server installed locally then you would add it's IP to your /etc/resolv.conf. Then you will be able to ping the hostname and not have to hard code it in every machine. (just the dns server)
[06:31] <gnub> I changed the directories in /media and in fstab to match and remounted but they still have the same name is before
[06:31] <jordan> Ahadiel, avidemux
[06:31] <gnub> Did they get a volume label?
[06:31] <Ahadiel> jordan, Dial_tone*
[06:31] <derekS> Shinpo: i assume my router has one? it is a typical netgear router for home...
[06:32] <nickrud> gnub could be.  ls -l /dev/disk/by-label will show
[06:32] <amenado> derekS your router does not have a name server with hostname for all those connected to it
[06:32] <sysop1972> amenado: can you help me through this partitioning?
[06:32] <arvind_khadri> sysop1972, if the cd has X i.e GUI then its a live cd
[06:32] <tyler_> ubuntu wont let me install any updates or codecs
[06:32] <tyler_> help
[06:32] <amenado> sysop1972-> a new install?
[06:32] <derekS> amenado: oh, i thouhgt it did! thanks for your help
[06:32] <arvind_khadri> tyler_, have you setup the repo's properly ??
[06:32] <nickrud> tyler_  sudo apt-get -f install  , run that and if it fails, put the complete output on paste.ubuntu.com
[06:32] <tyler_> how do i do that
[06:33] <BonezAU> Hi, does anyone know how to install the driver for a Nvidia 9600GT in Hardy? The nvidia-glx-new package from the repos does not work.
[06:33] <Shinpo> derekS, I know on my router at home I was not able to ping any hostnames, perhaps some routers do, but my experience has been otherwise, that's why I installed bind on one of the servers.
[06:33] <sysop1972> amenado: yes
[06:33] <tyler_> k
[06:33] <arvind_khadri> tyler_, paste your /etc/sources.list on pastebin
[06:33] <amenado> sysop1972-> okay, you can start the install, and upon selection of which drive to use, use a manual partitioning
[06:33] <derekS> Shinpo: i figured it did, though my router is about 8-10 years old
[06:34] <Shinpo> derekS, ah
[06:34] <fwaokda> is it possible to have my panels on all my virutal desktops except one?  I don't want them in one of the virtual desktops so that I can run a window at 1024x768 ?