[12:02] <callie> or scroll up rather than constantly requesting the same link
[12:02] <osh_> callie: no need. I got the info I wanted. so you get your break anyway.
[12:03] <callie> what about next time osh_ ?
[12:03] <kessler> Hmm, that wasn't a pleasent start for kubunto. It just crashed for no reason
[12:06] <osh_> callie: was it really that annoying? it's not like the channel is overflowing with other activity. but yes, I could have scrolled up a bit but was too lazy. next time I'll ask someone to !tell me about it instead.
[12:06] <kessler> If the root is locked in kubunto, how do you install new packages?
[12:06] <Hobbsee_away> kessler: using sudo
[12:07] <Hobbsee_away> kessler: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:07] <kessler> meh, konquerer crashes every time i try to open the link =/
[12:08] <Hobbsee_away> osh_: if you ever go into #ubuntu and do that, or here when it's busier, it certainly gets annoying - so we tell people not to do it on principle, just like pasting
[12:08] <jorik> is there a one button click backup solution for kubuntu?
[12:08] <kessler> 6 (SIGABRT)
[12:08] <Hobbsee_away> kessler: use w3m from a console or something?
[12:08] <Hobbsee_away> jorik: you might want to see konserv
[12:08] <jorik> okies, thx
[12:09] <Hobbsee_away> (it's a program, should be in your kmenu)
[12:09] <kessler> Hobbsee_away: i'd rather hear if anyone has a hint on how to keep konquerer from crashing?
[12:09] <Hobbsee_away> kessler: true - have you got the latest updates?
[12:09] <kessler> as said before, i've just installed ubunto, with the newest cd image from the website
[12:10] <kessler> i logged in, started irc, and here i am
[12:10] <Hobbsee_away> kessler: breezy or dapper?
[12:11] <kessler> uhm, no idea really. uname -a : Linux kessler 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:11] <Hobbsee_away> kessler: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:11] <Hobbsee_away> then try again, once all of that is done
[12:11] <Hobbsee_away> the password it asks for is the one you set at installation
[12:12] <kessler> ah, wicked
[12:12] <Hobbsee_away> now, i'm really going to be away now - back in a bit
[12:12] <C-O-L-T> !javadeb
[12:12] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:12] <kessler> thx mate
[12:12] <Hobbsee_away> no problems
[12:13] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee_away: i can not download debs
[12:13] <thegladiator> there is no link to kcontrol from the menus ?
[12:13] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee_away: java debs
[12:13] <osh_> !tell C-O-L-T about javadebs
[12:13] <thegladiator> how do I open kcontrol from the menus ?
[12:14] <C-O-L-T> how can i remove all my firewall settings
[12:14] <C-O-L-T> so delete iptables
[12:15] <kessler> How good is kubunto at detecting hardware? I want to play quake4 (<3 for making mainsteam games for native linux) on my not-so-high-end box, so how big performance gains could i get from recompiling the kernel by hand?
[12:16] <cleo> 0,5fps? ;)
[12:16] <kessler> (Compiled kernels before, it wouldn't be my first time. But it is kindda time consuming, so if i could skip it, i would)
[12:17] <kessler> guess i'll skip it then
[12:17] <dandielionous> Ahhh ha ha ha  I've got my dictionary working.
[12:18] <dandielionous> I had to fall back on the terminal and use apt-get but I did it.
[12:18] <dandielionous> Yooo hooo.
[12:18] <dandielionous> lol
[12:18] <dandielionous> Now if I could just figure out how to get my music player working. :)
[12:19] <cleo> portable music player?
[12:19] <dandielionous> I just want to be able to listen to radio stations online on my desktop.
[12:19] <dandielionous> I think I've installed all the music players there are.
[12:19] <cleo> does amarok not work for you?
[12:20] <dandielionous> But sadly enough I can't get sound out of any of them.
[12:20] <dandielionous> I have kscd on here that will play cds.
[12:20] <dandielionous> I'm wondering if there is a conflict with amarok.
[12:20] <murph2481> alright quick question....
[12:20] <murph2481> every time i boot up i have to go to KDE control panel
[12:20] <murph2481> click on the wireless profile i want to activate, click activate
[12:21] <murph2481> then go to konsole and type sudo dhclient
[12:21] <murph2481> and then my wireless card is working
[12:21] <murph2481> how do i do that so it happens automatically when i start up?
[12:21] <dandielionous> That sounds like a pain.
[12:21] <dandielionous> cleo do you use amarok?
[12:21] <dandielionous> Sorry murph2481 I can't help your problem.
[12:21] <toko123> greetings
[12:22] <dandielionous> <<<<newbie
[12:22] <larsivi> dandielionous: I had to change the sink in amarok
[12:22] <murph2481> :( i mean it takes 30 seconds to do it....but just wondering if there was a way to set it up automatically
[12:22] <dandielionous> The sink?
[12:22] <murph2481> <<<<newbie as well
[12:22] <dandielionous> ;)
[12:22] <cleo> dandielionous: got kubuntu on my notebook, I don't need sound/music here
[12:22] <larsivi> dandielionous: the backend, sortof
[12:23] <murph2481> dandielionous XMMS worked for me
[12:23] <jorik> kessler, optimizing does make a diffrence, more so if you patch your kernel with the right patchsets ... i havent bothered with that in years tho because stock kernels are usually stabler
[12:23] <dandielionous> larsivi: do you know if amarok has conflicts with kscd?
[12:23] <dandielionous> I'm at the point of uninstalling all my music programs and starting over.
[12:23] <murph2481> amarok doesn't work for me either....
[12:23] <dandielionous> I can't tell if I have conflicts.
[12:23] <kessler> jorik: I see. Well, not much point in having a super fast gaming setup that only works for 10 mins at a time.
[12:23] <larsivi> dandielionous: don't really think there are conflicts, but I have in general problems with arTs
[12:24] <kessler> guess i'll take my chances with the preset one
[12:24] <jorik> true :-)
[12:24] <larsivi> changed it to one the others (gstreamer?)
[12:24] <toko123> I'm trying to add a shortcut application link to my Kde launcher I can get it to execute from the command line but it gets stuck from the launcher I've tried konsole -e java-jar /foo/foo/foo.jar the launcher opens a java console and times out
[12:24] <dandielionous> I tried XMMS, Xing, jukebox, amarok, kscd,
[12:24] <dandielionous> and more
[12:24] <murph2481> yuk
[12:24] <dandielionous> What is gstreamer another program?
[12:24] <jorik> you can always multi boot with windows for games, thats what i do ... except for ET
[12:24] <jorik> ET ROX !
[12:24] <cleo> !gstreamer
[12:24] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, cleo
[12:24] <cleo> hm :)
[12:25] <cleo> I think its a sound framework
[12:25] <thegladiator> can i adjust the services that are intializd during boot up?
[12:25] <dandielionous> larsivi: Do you have a program that is actually working for you?
[12:25] <cleo> thegladiator: update-rc.d
[12:25] <larsivi> Amarok
[12:25] <dandielionous> oh ok
[12:26] <dandielionous> And sound comes out of your speakers?
[12:26] <dandielionous> <<<<doh slaps head  the man just said it worked for him.
[12:26] <murph2481> alright another question...i have dapper flight 2 installed...so when they release something new...will i have to upgrade everything?....or will Adept upgrade get it for me?
[12:26] <cleo> dandielionous: try installing gstreamer0.8-mad and try amarok again then
[12:26] <dandielionous> Okay and in laymans tongue larsivi what did you have to do to make it work?
[12:26] <murph2481> basically do i have to download the ISO and reinstall?
[12:27] <dandielionous> okay.
[12:27] <murph2481> or can i just upgrade through adept?
[12:27] <cleo> murph2481: I don't use adept, but apt-get dist-upgrade works well for that
[12:27] <larsivi> dandielionous: I changed the backend somewhere in the Amarok settings (and making sure it was installed using Adept)
[12:28] <murph2481> cleo: ah so i can upgrade i dont have to reinstall
[12:28] <murph2481> cleo: good thats what i wanted to hear :)
[12:28] <cleo> murph2481: yes, of course
[12:28] <dandielionous> I installed it using synaptic.
[12:28] <murph2481> cleo: few i was going to be pissed i have got all my settings the way I like them
[12:28] <murph2481> and finally got galleon running for my tivo :)
[12:29] <_kessler> Hmm... It seems like konqueror crashes every time i try downloading something. And it takes down the whole system in the fall =/
[12:30] <callie> anyone here have a good understanding of networking using crossover cables?
[12:30] <_kessler> and it still happends after i updated my packages
[12:30] <murph2481> _kessler: i downloaded firefox
[12:31] <dandielionous> dang I installed gstreamer but now I can't open amarok.
[12:31] <dandielionous> grrrrr
[12:31] <dandielionous> lol
[12:31] <cleo> dandielionous: strange
[12:32] <Voodoo_Vibe> when i try to start XP it says there is no operating system, and if i start with XP cd i can see that the filesystem on C: in labeled "Unknown" but i can access it through Linux and watch the movies and all.... tried to do a Fixmbr from Win xp cd... but no luck! what can i do??
[12:32] <dandielionous> I'm trying xine.
[12:32] <dandielionous> buffer, buffer buffer and no music.
[12:32] <Tm_T> Voodoo_Vibe: stop using XP ?
[12:33] <cleo> dandielionous: try amarok --engine gstreamer   in console
[12:33] <Voodoo_Vibe> Tm_T: my lady wont allow that, believe me i tried!
[12:33] <Tm_T> Voodoo_Vibe: believe me if you hide all XP install cd's he have to use to it =)
[12:34] <dandielionous> okay amarok opened now.
[12:34] <Tm_T> dandielionous: I use gstreamer with amaroK
[12:34] <dandielionous> type that in a terminal?
[12:34] <Voodoo_Vibe> Tm_T: yeah, thats a good idea! lol
[12:34] <dandielionous> I don't understand exactly what gstreamer is.
[12:34] <dandielionous> It helps amarok work better?
[12:34] <Tm_T> dandielionous: it's similar to xine
[12:35] <dandielionous> I'm just trying to get something that will work.
[12:35] <dandielionous> I don't know any of these programs.
[12:35] <cleo> dandielionous: does it work now?
[12:35] <dandielionous> testing
[12:35] <larsivi> gstreamer is the thingy that does the real playing, amarok is just a graphical wrapper with some additional organizational goodies
[12:36] <murph2481> Voodoo_Vibe - make a CD in linux using K3B and reformat and reinstall windows
[12:36] <dandielionous> OMG it's working.
[12:36] <dandielionous> I have SOUND!
[12:36] <dandielionous> lol
[12:36] <dandielionous> ty so much
[12:36] <dandielionous> I feel myself again!
[12:36] <cleo> hehe
[12:37] <dandielionous> So the trick is install amarok and then gstreamer...
[12:37] <dandielionous> I've got to remember this.
[12:37] <larsivi> or you could fix arTs
[12:38] <dandielionous> I never used windows media player much.  It would start to play and then I couldn't hear anything because it would always stop and buffer.
[12:38] <cleo> dandielionous: gstreamer is installed by default, you just installed restricted formats support
[12:38] <dandielionous> I couldn't use any other players.
[12:38] <cleo> for mp3 and stuff
[12:38] <dandielionous> Ohhhhhhhh I get it.
[12:38] <C-O-L-T> how can i disable all my iptables?
[12:38] <dandielionous> So now I need to really learn what mp3s are.
[12:38] <dandielionous> I can get into the music part of it now.
[12:38] <dandielionous> Just like the big kids.
[12:38] <dandielionous> hehehehehe
[12:38] <FuSiOn`> my q4 won't start :(  I already got past the whole libsdl stuff, now it flies by that I get sound and no video :(
[12:38] <murph2481> dandielionous: are you serious about the MP3 comments?
[12:38] <cleo> C-O-L-T: flush your rules
[12:38] <FuSiOn`> there is nothing in the console that remotely seems to tell me whats wrong
[12:39] <FuSiOn`> no errors or anything :\
[12:39] <dandielionous> I've never messed with the music part much.
[12:39] <C-O-L-T> cleo: how?
[12:39] <dandielionous> I think mp3 is not a wave file but not a cd.
[12:39] <dandielionous> But it's music.
[12:39] <murph2481> danldielionous: what do you want to know
[12:39] <cleo> C-O-L-T: iptables -F <chain>
[12:39] <murph2481> danldielionous: MP3 is just a compression format for typically music
[12:39] <dandielionous> Weeeelll do mp3 takes less space on the hard drive?
[12:39] <cleo> dandielionous: its compressed music, all stuff humans cannot hear are stripped
[12:40] <dandielionous> mmmmm understood.
[12:40] <murph2481> danldielionous: it is probably the best/most used compression for music
[12:40] <dandielionous> Does it take less space?
[12:40] <murph2481> then what?
[12:40] <dandielionous> Aren't mp3 the ibm version of music files for a portable music player?
[12:41] <cleo> at least ~10 times fewer than wave files (uncompressed, that stuff you got on an audio cd)
[12:41] <dandielionous> Like ipod but for ibm?
[12:41] <crimsun> mp3 is platform-independent
[12:41] <murph2481> danldielionous: mp3's are for any platform
[12:41] <dandielionous> Is that what people are loading off the internet?
[12:41] <dandielionous> Or downloading?
[12:41] <cleo> dandielionous: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mp3
[12:41] <dandielionous> Oh ty cleo . ::)
[12:41] <dandielionous> Sorry to be so slow.
[12:41] <murph2481> cleo: how do i get higher resolution settings for my desktop running dapper flight 2?
[12:42] <dandielionous> Showing my age.
[12:42] <murph2481> cleo: 1024 is the highest i want to go higher (19 LCD)
[12:42] <crimsun> murph2481: ask the bot about fixres
[12:42] <dandielionous> I can't believe I have music playing just like I read about it books.
[12:42] <murph2481> !fixres
[12:42] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:42] <cleo> murph2481: I configured xorg.conf manually...
[12:42] <dandielionous> Can I convert a cd to an mp3 format?
[12:43] <murph2481> cleo: thank you :)
[12:43] <cleo> dandielionous: you should use a free format like ogg vorbis for that
[12:43] <dandielionous> Okay great I'm going to read that link.
[12:44] <dandielionous> ogg vorbis...
[12:44] <Java_the_Hutt> dandielionous: yes you can, ther are softwares for it like lame
[12:44] <dandielionous> I've never heard of that.
[12:44] <dandielionous> Okay ty Java_the_Hutt
[12:44] <cleo> dandielionous: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[12:45] <dandielionous> I clicked it ty for the link cleo .
[12:45] <dandielionous> Since ya'll seem to know what you're doing I have another question.
[12:45] <dandielionous> I went to the weather site and clicked on the video but nothing plays videos on my computer.
[12:45] <dandielionous> Will amarok do that now?
[12:45] <murph2481> cleo: if i manully change xorg.conf and i screw up and am i screwed?
[12:45] <cleo> try kaffeine
[12:46] <dandielionous> Okay.
[12:46] <dandielionous> Well kaffeine is something else that don't work on here.
[12:46] <larsivi> dandielionous: amarok don't play videos
[12:46] <dandielionous> Maybe it will now with the gstreamer.
[12:46] <larsivi> dandielionous: I had to change the backend of kaffeine too
[12:46] <dandielionous> Do I need a Java plug in or something?
[12:46] <dandielionous> I hear that larsivi .
[12:46] <cleo> dandielionous: maybe you want to install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[12:46] <larsivi> I'm using xine for kaffeine
[12:47] <cleo> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:47] <cleo> erghs
[12:47] <larsivi> And I had to install some codecs, but I found all I wanted in universe
[12:47] <cleo> @ murph2481 :)
[12:47] <dandielionous> I installed multiverse.
[12:47] <dandielionous> But I haven't checked for any gstreamer plugins.
[12:48] <dandielionous> I'm using synaptic but I notice it doesn't seem to know everything.
[12:48] <larsivi> If I remember correctly, there were some conflicts with some plugins for some of the stuff
[12:48] <dandielionous> I had to install gstreamer0.8-mad through my terminal window.
[12:48] <larsivi> And one of the players worked, but the sound lagged to much
[12:48] <larsivi> 'think it was gstreamer
[12:50] <dandielionous> I wrote all that down cleo .
[12:50] <dandielionous> I don't seem to be having lag larsivi .
[12:50] <larsivi> good for you :)
[12:50] <dandielionous> I'm a little scared of messing with something that's actually working.
[12:51] <larsivi> Could have been a badly encoded film, it was home made
[12:51] <cleo> dandielionous: I forgot to mention gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg ...If you installed these 3 packages you should be able to play a lot of formats
[12:51] <dandielionous> Well I can't play videos yet.
[12:51] <dandielionous> Okay so I should install all of those cleo?
[12:51] <cleo> I did
[12:52] <dandielionous> cleo will that mess up my success I'm having at this point?
[12:52] <cleo> dandielionous: you cannot play windows media video files though :D
[12:52] <larsivi> dandielionous: FYI, it was when watching movies, the sound lagged, not synching with the lips of the actors
[12:52] <cleo> dandielionous: no
[12:52] <dandielionous> I don't have any windows media files.
[12:53] <dandielionous> I'm pure kubuntu.
[12:53] <dandielionous> Except for a little gnome.
[12:53] <dandielionous> hehehe
[12:53] <dandielionous> I use gaim.
[12:54] <dandielionous> Okay all those commands are apt-get install cleo?
[12:54] <cleo> dandielionous: yup easiest way imo "apt-get install packet1 packet2 packet3 packetN" ;)
[12:54] <dandielionous> You have to have commas in there?
[12:55] <dandielionous> Here I go.
[12:55] <dandielionous> GEtting ready to try it.
[12:55] <cleo> no...but thats all stuff you can try on your own...apt will complain if you do something stupid :D
[12:56] <dandielionous> Well I'd rather be told I'm wrong than have my computer messed up.
[12:57] <toko123> still stuck after reset x
[12:57] <cleo> toko123: what do you mean with stuck?
[12:57] <toko123> please vrify theis syntax konsole --noclose -e bash -c java -version?
[12:58] <toko123> the launcher opens a different version of java then the panel
[12:58] <stefano> hey dudes
[12:59] <stefano> i need a program or a script for finding out my cpu-temerature
[12:59] <toko123> the panel picks up the env PATH defined in .bashrc
[12:59] <toko123> the laucher appers not to use .bashrc for it's PATH env
[12:59] <cleo> toko123: sudo update-alternatives --config java  doesn't help you?
[01:00] <stefano> anyone?
[01:00] <toko123> cleo, thanks I'll try it
[01:00] <cleo> stefano: try acpi -V
[01:01] <cleo> stefano: else take a look on lmsensors
[01:01] <stefano> No support for device type: thermal
[01:01] <stefano> thanks
[01:02] <cleo> im off, bye :)
[01:02] <dandielionous> Okay I installed everything.
[01:02] <toko123> cleo, actually I want to use a different version than is already defined in the alternatives
[01:02] <dandielionous> And he just left.
[01:04] <dandielionous> Okay amarok is still working.
[01:08] <Lord_Athur> hola a todos
[01:09] <ilba7r> !es
[01:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:10] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[01:10] <Lord_Athur> ilba7r, it was only a mistake
[01:10] <Lord_Athur> :S
[01:11] <ilba7r> hi Lord_Athur, :)
[01:11] <Lord_Athur> :P
[01:11] <dandielionous> When I go here: http://www.wlbz.com/ and click on the weather video it don't play.  Do I need a java plug in?
[01:12] <Lord_Athur> dandielionous, are you spanish, really?
[01:12] <dandielionous> No I am not speaking spanish does it look like I am?
[01:13] <Lord_Athur> no, it doesn't
[01:13] <Lord_Athur> :P
[01:13] <Acidic32> whats the package manager called
[01:13] <Lord_Athur> jejeje
[01:13] <Acidic32> in ubuntu
[01:13] <brodel> synaptic
[01:13] <dandielionous> Oh okay scared me for a minute there.
[01:13] <Lord_Athur> Sypaptic
[01:13] <brodel> kubuntu it's adept
[01:13] <Lord_Athur> Synaptic :D
[01:13] <dandielionous> Do we have to add java plug in for kubuntu?
[01:13] <Acidic32> ok
[01:14] <brodel> dandielionous: yes
[01:14] <Lord_Athur> dandielionous, yes
[01:14] <dandielionous> ty ty appreciate the response.
[01:14] <Lord_Athur> :P
[01:14] <dandielionous> Do I do that through apt-get?
[01:14] <dandielionous> Or synaptic?
[01:14] <brodel> doesn't matter
[01:14] <brodel> they both do the same
[01:14] <dandielionous> Okay ty ty again. :)
[01:15] <dandielionous> I speak a little spanish Lord_Athur .
[01:15] <dandielionous> But don't tell anyone. :)
[01:15] <slow-motion> n8
[01:16] <Lord_Athur> :D
[01:17] <Lord_Athur> dandielionous, did you get the plugin?
[01:17] <dandielionous> No I haven't yet.
[01:17] <dandielionous> It's confusing in synaptic.
[01:17] <dandielionous> What is the command in apt?
[01:17] <Lord_Athur> mm
[01:18] <dandielionous> I don't know if I should add everything that comes up in synaptic or not.
[01:18] <Lord_Athur> dandielionous, you can download it from my page
[01:18] <dandielionous> java plugin didn't come up.
[01:18] <dandielionous> That's kind but that's a struggle for me too.
[01:18] <dandielionous> I need to learn how to do it in my programs that I have.
[01:18] <Lord_Athur> dandielionous, you've to download the .so file and paste it in the plug directory
[01:19] <Lord_Athur> it's waht i did
[01:20] <dandielionous> I have a bunch of choices in synaptic I think I found the right one.
[01:20] <dandielionous> Or I'll just install them all.
[01:20] <dandielionous> I have lots of space.
[01:20] <Lord_Athur> then, install all
[01:20] <Lord_Athur> :P
[01:20] <dandielionous> :)
[01:22] <kujeger> what's a good kde ftp program with a gui?
[01:24] <dandielionous> Installing, installing.
[01:26] <dandielionous> download rate 273kbs
[01:27] <brodel> kujeger: I have used gftp.. worked fine for what I needed.
[01:28] <rance> when I start firefox its homepage is set to a local file called "/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html" and that is missing from my system, what package is it in?
[01:28] <kujeger> brodel: thanks, I'll try it.
[01:28] <m0ns00n> brothel: thanks, I'll try it.
[01:29] <rance> never mind, I found it
[01:29] <dandielionous> lol @ rance
[01:29] <rance> dont you just love the adept search
[01:29] <jorik> whats /dev/kmem ?
[01:30] <dandielionous> yes rance
[01:30] <dandielionous> I'm using synaptic.
[01:30] <dandielionous> I like it better.
[01:30] <rance> oh yea
[01:30] <rance> ok
[01:30] <dandielionous> I just love kubuntu.
[01:31] <hawking> I have kubuntu and Kde 3.5 and I want to disable my synaptics touchpad.I tried everything with the xorg.conf file but doesn't work... what may be the problem?
[01:31] <rance> well, Ive been around linux for several years, but so far kubuntu is the best distro going, and ive used mandrake/mandriva fedora, centos, slackware, and even gentoo
[01:31] <tictric> what is everything?
[01:32] <dandielionous> have you hard of xandros rance?
[01:32] <dandielionous> Sorry hawking I would help if I could.
[01:32] <m0ns00n> tictric: follow the white killer rabbit with big sharp bloody teeth
[01:32] <ProtectYaNeck> should my internet connection work when using a live cd?
[01:32] <rance> yea, ive heard of it, I think thats the one that is supposed to look much more like Windows, and dont they charge for it?
[01:32] <dandielionous> yes ProtectYaNeck
[01:33] <hawking> tictric : I've put Option SHMConfig "true" to xorg.conf and tried to configure usinh synclient but still got Shmconfig disabled? error although I rebooted that didn't change and then I just removed all the lines about synaptics from xorg.conf and it didn't make any change again
[01:33] <_ubuntu> how do i mount hdc1 with access for all in konsole
[01:33] <_ubuntu> ???
[01:33] <ilba7r_> ProtectYaNeck, with ether net yess. with wirless most probably no
[01:33] <ProtectYaNeck> dandielionous, any idea why it doesn't work with the live cd but works in xp?
[01:33] <ProtectYaNeck> this isn't wireless
[01:33] <dandielionous> I don't know but I've tried solaris, mandrake, mandrive, knoppix and I like kubuntu best rance.
[01:33] <dandielionous> Is it ethernet or wireless ProtectYaNeck ?
[01:33] <ilba7r_> ProtectYaNeck, if it is soft modem most probably no either
[01:34] <dandielionous> I think ilba7r_  knows more than me ProtectYaNeck .
[01:34] <ProtectYaNeck> I have a university dsl connection
[01:34] <_ubuntu> how do i mount hdc1 with access for all in konsole??
[01:34] <rance> I loved knoppix before 4.0, 3.9 was the last one I liked, and I still use it in a pinch to get stuff working, and its my preferred method of installing gentoo
[01:34] <tictric> hawking: As far as I can tell, if you remove the configuration for the touchpad from xorg.conf it won't be activated any longer.
[01:35] <dandielionous> knoppix got me started on the right path.
[01:35] <ilba7r_> ProtectYaNeck, was it autodetected when you ran the livecd and did it ask you to configure it
[01:35] <hawking> tictric : I did that already and it was activated
[01:35] <dandielionous> I tried to get lenox going for 3 years.  I downloaded solaris at least 3 times and tried to install.
[01:35] <hawking> I am just confused
[01:35] <ilba7r_> ProtectYaNeck, if not than you need to tweek if after installing ubuntu
[01:35] <ProtectYaNeck> it didn't ask for configuration
[01:35] <dandielionous> Lots of researching o the net rance then finally someone told me about Mandrake and that got me going.
[01:35] <dandielionous> And a friend gave me a knoppix cd.
[01:36] <_ubuntu> how do i mount hdc1 with access for all in konsole??
[01:36] <dandielionous> knoppix gave me the first taste rance.
[01:36] <rance> I think I still have a mandrake install book from like mandrake 3 or 4
[01:36] <_ubuntu> how do i mount hdc1 with read access for all in konsole?? im on live cd
[01:37] <dandielionous> I have Mandrake 10.1.
[01:37] <dandielionous> But rpms are too hard.
[01:37] <dandielionous> I like debians very much. :)
[01:38] <ilba7r_> i hated upgrading from one ver to another in mandrive from 10 to 10.1 broke everything here
[01:38] <ProtectYaNeck> also, are there any know problems with kubuntu and sata drives?
[01:38] <ilba7r_> !sata
[01:38] <ubotu> ilba7r_: What?
[01:38] <ilba7r_> mm ProtectYaNeck you should try the forums sorry never needed to install one
[01:38] <dandielionous> I know what you mean ilba7r_ .
[01:39] <dandielionous> I hope I don't have to do that kind of upgrading with kubuntu.
[01:39] <_ubuntu> !mount
[01:39] <ubotu> [mount]  the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:39] <_ubuntu> !windowsdrives
[01:39] <ubotu> [windowsdrives]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:39] <ilba7r_> dandielionous, upgrading from hoary to breezy was ok. fresh install is better but worked ok. If you do not install a lot of custom drivers you are ok
[01:39] <rance> I almost tried suse, and had debian installed at one time, but I didnt like one thing or another and Id decided that the two things that HAD to work, was a good upgrade and update systems
[01:39] <l0st1> !acroread64
[01:39] <ubotu> l0st1: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[01:40] <brodel> lol
[01:40] <dandielionous> Sounds good.  It takes so long to get everything running.  I hate to do a whole fresh install again.
[01:40] <_ubuntu> how do i mount hdc1 with read access for all in konsole?? im on live cd
[01:41] <dandielionous> It's taken me about 3 months since I wiped windows totally off my disk for me to get everything going again.
[01:41] <ilba7r_> dandielionous, nevertheless i heared dapper installation wil be harder so better have a seperate partition for your home directory
[01:41] <dandielionous> But that was because I was trying to learn linux at the same time.
[01:41] <l0st1> any ideas about acroread install for x64 systems?
[01:41] <dandielionous> What is dapper?
[01:42] <dandielionous> The newest version of kubuntu?
[01:42] <ilba7r_> dandielionous, the new ver of ubuntu
[01:42] <ilba7r_> new release
[01:42] <dandielionous> Gees it doesn't just automatically upgrade?
[01:42] <dandielionous> lol @ myself
[01:42] <rance> thats part of the reason I havent wanted to do lvm yet, I love the concept, but Ive got 4 partitions /boot, /swap, /, and /home
[01:42] <dandielionous> I don't have seperate partitions.
[01:43] <dandielionous> Maybe I should.
[01:43] <rance> the reason for the seperate partions is that if something goes wrong during an install your /home folders are all safe
[01:43] <rance> cause you are just mounting that and not formatting it
[01:44] <ilba7r_> rance but i wil not go so far to have seperate /boot partition
[01:44] <rance> one bad manrake install a couple of years ago taught me that
[01:44] <dandielionous> I'm not really saving anything to home folders.
[01:44] <dandielionous> I have some things like documents and pictures.
[01:44] <dandielionous> But the rest is effecting the whole system like the java plugins.
[01:45] <dandielionous> If it's anything I really want I usually back up to floppy or cd.
[01:45] <ilba7r_> seperate swap and home. home so i do not loose my data. swap so i can run more than one distro if i want to experiment
[01:45] <dandielionous> I need a jump drive.
[01:45] <rance> ilba7r a seperate boot partition is a trick that I picked up from the gentoo, linux from scratch projects
[01:45] <dandielionous> ohhhhhh
[01:46] <mzelem> hello, anyone know the command to re-configure x?
[01:46] <rance> dandelionous: they are cheap enough
[01:46] <crimsun> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:46] <mzelem> k, thanks
[01:46] <dandielionous> Okay I just installed all the java plugins and still can't run the video.
[01:46] <dandielionous> I think I have to do a cold boot.
[01:47] <ilba7r_> cimsun wont dpkg -configure work too or is there a diff
[01:47] <dandielionous> I'll be back.
[01:47] <ilba7r_> !java
[01:47] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:47] <rance> why doesnt kubuntu have the configuration tools that come with Xorg anyway?
[01:47] <crimsun> ilba7r_: there is a difference. --configure runs postinst
[01:48] <ilba7r_> crimsun does that mean i can not run while x is running
[01:49] <ilba7r_> i mean run the command dpkg --configure
[01:49] <crimsun> ilba7r_: it's generally bad practice to do so, but you're free to do so
[01:50] <ilba7r_> crimsun, thanks for the information. I am just learning not jsut standing by an opinion. Thanks again
[01:50] <crimsun> np
[01:53] <l0st1> any ideas about acreread for x64, or i'm stuck with chroot stuff and 32 bit
[01:56] <ubuntu> how to i alter ownership for a folder??
[01:57] <l0st1> chown
[01:57] <l0st1> or try man chown
[01:58] <l0st1> !acroread
[01:58] <ubotu> l0st1: I give up, what is it?
[01:58] <l0st1> !pdf
[01:58] <ubotu> l0st1: Are you on ritalin?
[01:59] <rance> I've got a question about configuring apache2, I just installed it, and loaded up http://localhost in my web browser and I get a directory listing with the one directory in /var/www that actually has the apache default index stuff in it, why isnt the site configured correctly?
[01:59] <ubuntu> los1: how?? its the folder /mnt/win
[02:00] <ubuntu> i want read access for all
[02:00] <l0st1> is that monted from samba?
[02:00] <ubuntu> no konsole
[02:00] <l0st1> edit your fstab
[02:01] <ubuntu> lost1: im on live cd
[02:01] <l0st1> humm well not sure, don't want to break anything you could be doing since your running live cd and not install
[02:02] <ubuntu> lost1: ok, Thanx anyway
[02:04] <fridge> what are the stock keybindings for switching virtual desktops in ubtunu kde?
[02:06] <toko123> greetings
[02:07] <toko123> can I use the mplayer essential codecs with xine?
[02:07] <dandielionous> Okay my java plugin is working.
[02:07] <dandielionous> But I still can't get the video to play for the weather video.
[02:07] <decOding> how do I install KDE 3.5 on Kubuntu ?
[02:07] <dandielionous> Here is the message I get.
[02:07] <dandielionous> xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [http://www.wtsp.com/includes/buildasx_oas.aspx?fn=http://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/wlbz/2forecast.wmv&sp=mms://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/wlbz/ads/credit_now.wmv]
[02:07] <dandielionous> xine: input plugin cannot open MRL [http://www.wtsp.com/includes/buildasx_oas.aspx?fn=http://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/wlbz/2forecast.wmv&sp=mms://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/wlbz/ads/credit_now.wmv]
[02:07] <dandielionous> input_http: http status not 2xx: >404 Not Found<
[02:07] <dandielionous> xine: found input plugin  : http input plugin
[02:08] <toko123> I'm trting to get xine to work on wmv file
[02:08] <dandielionous> Does anyone know what that means/
[02:08] <dandielionous> ?
[02:08] <decOding> found
[02:08] <dandielionous> xxine: cannot find input plugin for MRL
[02:09] <toko123> dandielionous, did you try the mplayer essental codecs?
[02:10] <dandielionous> I thought I fixed all those.
[02:10] <dandielionous> I'm not really sure.
[02:10] <dandielionous> I put gstream0.8 and all the plugins.
[02:10] <dandielionous> So amarok is working now.
[02:10] <dandielionous> What are essential codecs for mplayer?
[02:11] <toko123> hold on
[02:11] <dandielionous> I'm just trying to get things working here.
[02:11] <dandielionous> I have xine and kaffein.
[02:11] <dandielionous> I guess xine is taking over the default.
[02:11] <toko123> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[02:12] <dandielionous> What is that toko?
[02:13] <toko123> I'm asking are these codecs wokable in xine as there is no download for mplayer in hte repositories for ubuntu
[02:13] <dandielionous> I don't think I want to put mplayer on here.
[02:13] <dandielionous> That's windows isn't it?
[02:13] <toko123> I'm tring to view a wmv file all I get is audio so I know it;s a codec problem
[02:14] <dandielionous> Okay try this link toko.
[02:14] <dandielionous> http://www.wlbz.com/
[02:14] <dandielionous> And try the weather video.
[02:14] <dandielionous> On the left hand side.
[02:14] <toko123> no  I have mplayer on a freebsd and fedora box
[02:14] <dandielionous> See if it works on yours.
[02:15] <dandielionous> Still there toko123 ?
[02:16] <toko123> I've got the page what are you trying to see?
[02:16] <dandielionous> The weather video.
[02:16] <dandielionous> Under the weather heading it says: weather video
[02:16] <dandielionous> On the left.
[02:16] <toko123> on demand video forecast?
[02:17] <dandielionous> yes
[02:17] <dandielionous> video forecast you're right.
[02:18] <toko123> I get audio only
[02:18] <Spudchat> hi guys
[02:18] <dandielionous> OH ok.
[02:18] <dandielionous> So it's not just me.
[02:18] <Spudchat> any ideas on how to encode avi to dvd?
[02:19] <toko123> todd somebody
[02:19] <dandielionous> ty for checking that toko123 .
[02:19] <dandielionous> I wonder how to fix it?
[02:19] <dandielionous> At least you're getting audio.  That's more than I'm getting.
[02:19] <toko123> mplayer from source is my guess but I'll load the codecs and se if it makes a difference
[02:20] <dandielionous> kk
[02:20] <dandielionous> I thought xine or kaffein was supposed to be able to play those things.
[02:20] <FuSiOn`> I asked earlier, nobody said anything.  I'll ask again.  Quake 4 AMD64... its not the sdl error, I'm past that, however the game loads straight to a black screen, and I have sound
[02:20] <FuSiOn`> its odd
[02:21] <dandielionous> Is that a game for linux FuSiOn` ?
[02:21] <FuSiOn`> there is a linux binary..
[02:21] <FuSiOn`> all the other files I had to copy over.  I have no idea what the problem is, but my monitor goes amber, when it starts
[02:22] <FuSiOn`> I've created an autoexec.cfg as well, to make 100% that it starts in a compatible resolution
[02:22] <dandielionous> I didn't think we could play windows games in linux.
[02:22] <FuSiOn`> its not a windows game totally
[02:22] <dandielionous> oh
[02:22] <FuSiOn`> it is, but they released a linux binary
[02:22] <dandielionous> I wish Nancy Drew came in linux.
[02:22] <FuSiOn`> lol
[02:23] <FuSiOn`> I thought wine could do most of that stuff
[02:23] <dandielionous> I like Nancy Drew.
[02:23] <FuSiOn`> esp games that aren't as hardcore as q4
[02:23] <Ge0Ks> hi I wanna order the kubuntu, becouse I don't have internet, how I can?
[02:23] <xwolf-> you can't
[02:23] <dandielionous> I thought you could order some.
[02:24] <Ge0Ks> ohhh I think that yes becouse The ubuntu can order
[02:24] <xwolf-> you can order ubuntu, (with gnome), then you can install kde
[02:24] <FuSiOn`> I suppose you're asking us that question from an internet capable cell phone?
[02:24] <FuSiOn`> ;)
[02:24] <Ge0Ks> yasp
[02:24] <Ge0Ks> hehe
[02:24] <FuSiOn`> lol
[02:24] <Ge0Ks> but I really wanna the kubuntu :)
[02:24] <dandielionous> Gees what a world we live in.
[02:24] <dandielionous> Download it from your cell phone. lol
[02:24] <FuSiOn`> ubuntu is kubuntu and vice versa I thought, I think the only difference is gnome/kde
[02:24] <visik7> why runlevel tell me unknown ????
[02:25] <xwolf-> FuSiOn` you're right
[02:25] <xwolf-> BUT, you can only order ubuntu for now
[02:25] <FuSiOn`> :>
[02:25] <Ge0Ks> but the program?? what program have the kubuntu??
[02:25] <xwolf-> Ge0Ks you can try speaking spanish or portuguese... i can't understand your english very well
[02:26] <Ge0Ks> heehhe ok
[02:26] <Tm_T> !es
[02:26] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:26] <Ge0Ks> ke programa tiene el kubuntu ke no tenga el ubuntu?
[02:26] <xwolf-> Ge0Ks kubuntu tiene interface KDE, ya ubuntu tiene GNOME
[02:26] <xwolf-> ahora vete a #kubuntu-es
[02:27] <Ge0Ks> ahh ok estoy ahi
[02:27] <l0st1> !chroot
[02:27] <ubotu> it has been said that chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:27] <FuSiOn`> ubotu ahaha
[02:27] <ubotu> FuSiOn`: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:27] <FuSiOn`> .........
[02:48] <juif> weehoo
[02:49] <juif> this is a lot like windows
[02:49] <juif> can i make kubuntu behave like linux ? (text interface ?) from outside of kde ?
[02:49] <juif> ie: not in a window
[02:50] <hawking> windows? what is it?
[02:50] <visik7> it's only my impression or apt is slower in chroot ?
[02:58] <ndazza> juif: Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a text-based login prompt, Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to the gui
[02:58] <toko123> anyone using xine here?
[02:59] <juif> thanks, easy enough.
[02:59] <toko123> how do I get xnie to play .rm or .wmv files?
[02:59] <hawking> does anyone know configuring hotkeys of a laptop?
[03:00] <toko123> xine opens to all these tv stations and radio staions
[03:00] <toko123> nothing works
[03:00] <juif> could it be that internet (www) access is slower than with mozilla on a windows pc ?
[03:00] <juif> or is it just set all wrong ?
[03:01] <toko123> something as prosaic as media plugins set up wrong?
[03:02] <juif> what is my root password ?
[03:02] <juif> it never asked my opinion about it
[03:03] <`Nomad411> juif: it's slower browsing for me on Kubuntu for some reason, compared to windows
[03:04] <hawking> does anyone know configuring hotkeys on laptops? for example my fn+f12 button is written as "completed event "hotkey ATKD 00000030 000000ab" in /var/log/acpid how can i configure it so that it will turn the volume up in kde?
[03:04] <juif> can i install anything made for linux on this ? like, firefox ?
[03:05] <hawking> juif : what you have is linux
[03:05] <toko123> can someone recommend a multiverse mirror for 5.10
[03:05] <`Nomad411> juif: firefox is what I was talking about
[03:05] <toko123> I'm looking for mplatwre of kmplayer in the repository
[03:06] <toko123> right now i have main and universe
[03:06] <toko123> repositories
[03:06] <juif> oh, okay :)
[03:07] <juif> so, wtf is my root password ? :)
[03:07] <juif> it never asked me for one, how do i define it ?
[03:09] <`Nomad411> !root
[03:09] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:10] <l0st1> is chroot the best option for x64 computers?
[03:11] <fridge> WTF
[03:13] <fridge> l0st1: your question makes no sense to me. it's like asking is mount the best option for powerpc computers?
[03:14] <l0st1> i'm asking if there is any other options
[03:14] <`Nomad> I was worried that it was because regular shells were too fast on x64.. LOL
[03:14] <l0st1> that's the only one i know, so well knowing now that is it the only option then i guess i'll have to do it to install 32 bit things
[03:15] <ndazza> `Nomad: you mean they're not? damn! i've been chrooting my shells all this time... :p
[03:15] <`Nomad> woooooooooshhh  ..........------  BASH
[03:15] <fridge> you could run virtualised instances inside xen or something, but I'm not sure what it is you're trying to achieve
[03:15] <l0st1> acroread, shockwave, java
[03:15] <l0st1> to start with
[03:16] <l0st1> since none i can get in x64
[03:16] <fridge> I'm running 32-bit opera & flash plugins
[03:16] <fridge> on a stock 64-bit kubuntu install
[03:16] <ndazza> l0st1: perhaps a x64 distro isn't really necessary...
[03:17] <l0st1> ya maybe,
[03:17] <ndazza> i have an amd x64 and i run everything at 32 bit - there's no real performance increase for x64
[03:17] <inc|freaky> hi all. im trying to boot from the kubuntu live cd - breezy badger - but it hangs when it tries to load the hotplug subsystem - how can i fix that?
[03:17] <l0st1> just breezy 32bit then?
[03:18] <ndazza> l0st1: if it's a desktop PC you're looking for, that's what i'd recommend yeah
[03:18] <inc|freaky> its a Amilo M1347G Notebook im trying to boot it on.
[03:18] <l0st1> ya might be my easiest option, everyone was just talking ahh linux is so sweet since everything has 64 bit suport, and windows sucks cause it doesn't
[03:19] <l0st1> guess everything is messed up in that, other then mac
[03:19] <l0st1> well thanks, ndazza, maybe i'll head to 32 bit, since i've been reading as you said, there isn't much of a performance issue
[03:19] <ndazza> inc|freaky: google for the bootup options for ubuntu, there'll be a parameter like nohotplug or somethign you can pass to the kernel
[03:19] <inc|freaky> oh, what is hotplug for?
[03:20] <inc|freaky> do i need hotplug for usb memory sticks?
[03:20] <ndazza> l0st1: if you're running a database server then x64 is great... but for desktop it's a PITA :)
[03:21] <ndazza> inc|freaky: uh yeah i think so - not sure if it just handles automounting or if it sets up the devices and everything as well
[03:21] <ndazza> inc|freaky: i think it might be the latter
[03:21] <l0st1> ya i notice on vmware some off keyboard repeat delays, sometimes i can't even type things
[03:21] <inc|freaky> so without hotplug i cant mount my harddrive?
[03:21] <l0st1> something is a bit buggy.. and other odd things on kubuntu64
[03:22] <ndazza> inc|freaky: if it's a USB harddrive, then possibly not :)
[03:22] <inc|freaky> no its no usb harddrive
[03:22] <inc|freaky> but i want to be able to stick in my memory stick and save stuff on it
[03:22] <ndazza> inc|freaky: you don't need hotplug for internal drives
[03:22] <inc|freaky> awkay
[03:23] <inc|freaky> ill search for the bootoptions now ^^
[03:23] <ndazza> inc|freaky: ahh
[03:23] <inc|freaky> thx a lot :D
[03:23] <ndazza> inc|freaky: good luck! :)
[03:23] <inc|freaky> thx ^^
[03:24] <_tao> hey, I've got a pb, since I had run windows, when I try to run ubunto I just get a command line ubuntu. how could I get graphical environment ??
[03:26] <`Nomad> _tao: type 'startx' and then press ENTER to see if X will start
[03:26] <`Nomad> did you have it before?
[03:27] <_tao> no, I'm a beginner with linux
[03:27] <_tao> why does x doesn't load automaticaly anymore ??
[03:28] <`Nomad> did it before?
[03:28] <_tao> yeah
[03:28] <_tao> but that's true I had a lot of graphical pbs
[03:28] <`Nomad> and then you ran windows?  or installed windows?
[03:28] <_tao> no no, just ran windows
[03:28] <`Nomad> MS-windows?
[03:29] <`Nomad> Your system is a dual-boot?
[03:29] <_tao> yeah, I use windows xp and ubuntu
[03:29] <`Nomad> so XP was installed first, then ubuntu?
[03:29] <_tao> yeah, I knew that pb if I installed ubuntu before windows
[03:29] <`Nomad> ok, good..
[03:30] <`Nomad> well, if you are at the linux prompt, I assume that you can boot into either windows, or command-line ubuntu?
[03:30] <`Nomad> both work ok that way?
[03:30] <_tao> yeah
[03:31] <`Nomad> it's hard to tel lwhy it would suddenly stop from here..  Did you try running the command startx  like I said earlier?  What does it say?
[03:31] <boow> anyone have choppy mp3 playback in amarok
[03:32] <_tao> nope, I'll try it right now
[03:32] <boow> anyone have choppy mp3 playback in amarok
[03:32] <boow> i install beep media player they play fine in that
[03:34] <boow> hello
[03:35] <l0st1> boow on some mp3's i have the same thing
[03:35] <Steven_M> I need some help with konqueror please.
[03:35] <_tao> well, I don't understand anything ... now it works like before ... I restarted several time before but it didn't work ...
[03:36] <boow> i did a full upgrade with the backport stuff so that might have broke it so i will reinstall to see if that fixes it
[03:37] <fangorious> does konqueror have a feature similar to Firefox's "Open Bookmarks in tabs" feature
[03:38] <Steven_M> Can anyone here help me with Konqueror?
[03:38] <l0st1> s in what Steven_M ?
[03:38] <fangorious> Steven_M: be more specific
[03:40] <Steven_M> my flashplugin couses konquror to hang :(
[03:41] <fangorious> Steven_M: have you tried deleting and reinstalling it?
[03:41] <fangorious> (the flash plugin)
[03:43] <nightwatch> Hi there I need help.
[03:43] <inc|freaky> hi, me again. i cant find the bootparameter so kubuntu doesnt try to start the hotplug subsystem. does anyone know where i can get thatinformation, or knows what i have to write at the boot: prompt, when booting from the live cd? (breezy badger)
[03:44] <fangorious> nightwatch: what's the problem?
[03:44] <Steven_M> fangorious: yes
[03:44] <rance> !dpkg
[03:45] <nightwatch> I'd like to use kubuntu but I got some doubts, I have a new motherboard witch have some devices that were not deteceted by knoppix/kurumin/kalango I hope ubuntu can fix it. please what kernel version ubuntu uses? and there are any diference between live version and another one?
[03:45] <fangorious> Steven_M: ywhich plugin are you using? (official from macromedia, a packaged copy from a repoy, an open source one, etc)
[03:45] <rance> ok, one more for the worlds most asked question "whats the command to reconfigure X
[03:46] <ClayG> anyone here know how to change the MAC on a cable modem?
[03:46] <ilba7r> nightwatch, kernel is 2.6.10
[03:46] <inc|freaky> rance: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 i think
[03:47] <rance> some cable modems dont let you change that, for the ones that do, it will be in the modems advanced setup
[03:47] <ilba7r> xorg-server
[03:47] <inc|freaky> rance: or xserver-xorg
[03:47] <ilba7r> oh inc|freaky i think this is the right one what you typed last ya
[03:47] <Steven_M> fangorious: the official one
[03:47] <fangorious> Steven_M: have you tried a newer/older version?
[03:48] <nightwatch> I have the MB intel GAVL. the audio system is not deteced as well.. anybody has the same MB? did you get problem?
[03:49] <ilba7r> nightwatch did yo check the supported hardware on the website
[03:49] <ilba7r> is it a laptop for i got the link to laptop tested hardware
[03:49] <nightwatch> [ilba7r] : not yet, where can i find it?
[03:50] <ilba7r> nightwatch, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:50] <Steven_M> fangorious: I've only mangaged to find version 7 from the flash website
[03:50] <inc|freaky> grrr how can i disable the starting of the hotplug subsystem when booting from the live-cd because it keeps hanging there
[03:50] <ilba7r> nightwatch, and this is for the newest laptop testing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/
[03:51] <fangorious> Steven_M: is it crashing on every flash app, or just certain ones?
[03:51] <nightwatch> and about the live version and standard version, what is the diference, but the obvious, sure.
[03:52] <calidad> please... how I access to kubuntu-es?
[03:53] <sampan> calidad  type: /join #kubuntu-es
[03:54] <fangorious> calidad: maybe install language-pack-kde-es-base and language-pack-kde-es, then set the system language to spanish
[03:54] <sampan> heh -- i thought he meant on irc ;x
[03:55] <sampan> he or she
[03:55] <calidad> #kubuntu-es
[03:56] <Steven_M> fangorious: I've only tried to use the flash comoponent on one particular site (tvnz.co.nz) The website works fine using firefox and the same flash plugins but I really want to access the sites from Konqueror as well. Is there a flash package using apt-get instead of the flash plugin website.
[03:57] <sampan> steven_m  have you tried importing the mozilla plugin into konq?  settings --> configure konq --> plugins  -- i don't use flash, so not sure if that would work or not, but it might
[03:57] <nightwatch> the live version of kubuntu use the knoppix structure?
[03:58] <fangorious> Steven_M: I'm pretty sure there's an open source plugin somewhere, but probably not in the default repos. I don't think I had to manually import my firefox plugins, but you look at that (sampan's comment)
[03:59] <ilba7r> Steven_M, which firefox ver you are using
[03:59] <ilba7r> !flash
[04:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:00] <visik7> where can I find debian/ for kopete package ?
[04:01] <nightwatch> please, what the difference between live version and standard? (th live uses knoppix kernel?, )
[04:01] <ilba7r> visik7, kopete i in the reops i think it is installed by default. sudo apt-get install kopete
[04:01] <fangorious> nightwatch: live is a read-only bootable CD or DVD, to try it out without installing, or repair an existing, unbootable install
[04:01] <visik7> yes but I'm compiling dev-0.12 'couse 0.11 is buggy
[04:02] <Steven_M> fangorious: I went to configure konqueror > plugins and then clicked on the scan button to scan for plugins in the .mozilla folder, is that considered importing?
[04:02] <fangorious> Steven_M: yep, in the plugins tab next to the scan tab, is libflashpayer listed?
[04:02] <nightwatch> fangorious that's I know.. I have used a knoppix version for a long time, everytime I try to install, due to use knoppix packages the OS becomes too much instable
[04:03] <Steven_M> ilba7r: I am using firefox 1.0.7
[04:03] <ilba7r> visik7, i can not understand what you are doing. do you need the new deb for kopete or are you compiling from source
[04:03] <Steven_M> fangorious: yes
[04:03] <visik7> ilba7r: I'm compiling from source but I would make a package
[04:03] <ilba7r> Steven_M, than follow ubotu link. i think the package name is mozilla restricted
[04:03] <fangorious> nightwatch: I don't understand. do you mean you install kubuntu, then boot a knoppix cd and install packages off that?
[04:03] <ilba7r> !flash
[04:03] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:03] <nightwatch> I want ot install ubunto, of course whereas both version are the same, at all, I will choose the live for testing
[04:04] <Steven_M> fangorious: The flash application does load but then konqueror hangs after that
[04:04] <ilba7r> sorry Steven_M they changed the name of the old package i am using now. flash restricted or something like that
[04:04] <fangorious> Steven_M: have a look at the link ubotu just posted. i can view that site you mentioned. i have kde 3.5 from kubuntu.org, not sure what flashplayer i have, probably the latest
[04:04] <ilba7r> visik7, checkinstall will install a deb package for you. instead of make install use checkinstall. you need to install it first on your sys
[04:05] <nightwatch> fangorious no. I want to know if the live version of kubunto uses anything from knoppix, becouse I hate knoppix. I have had bad experiences with it before.
[04:05] <visik7> ilba7r: dirty solution
[04:05] <fangorious> nightwatch: not that i'm aware of (i hat knoppix too)
[04:05] <ilba7r> visik7, i now but only solution i have so far
[04:05] <visik7> I would make a real package with dependancies and other stuff
[04:05] <fangorious> nightwatch: the live CD should be identical to the standard images, except for the whole read-only bootable cd that you don't install with
[04:06] <visik7> not a just a tar.gz named .deb
[04:06] <fangorious> visik7: what's wrong with just dumping it in /opt?
[04:06] <nightwatch> fangorious thats it what I want to know. I cannot install it.
[04:06] <Steven_M> ilba7r: what line do I need to put in my sources.list file to get that package? (I  haven't noticed any  flash packages in the default repositories but I could be wrong)
[04:06] <nightwatch> then I have to donwload both versions
[04:07] <visik7> fangorious: that it's not a clean solution
[04:07] <ilba7r> !repos
[04:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:08] <fangorious> visik7: sure it is, it doesn't overwrite any system files and doesn't create any local/obsolete nuisances in apt
[04:09] <fangorious> nightwatch: yeah, i was surprised to find out you can't install from the live dvd image
[04:09] <visik7> fangorious: I want to make a package for ubuntu and use in my pkg db and when a newer version will come out it will be upgraded
[04:10] <nightwatch> fangorious that's not so bad thing ... due it doesnt use knoppix :P
[04:10] <fangorious> visik7: not trying to convince you otherwise, was just curious
[04:12] <Steven_M> ilba7r: how do I search for the mozilla restricted package using apt-get in the command line? I am not used to pure apt-get, I usually use aptitude?
[04:13] <ilba7r> sudo aptitude search
[04:13] <ilba7r> Steven_M, i too do not use apt-get at all only aptitude
[04:13] <fangorious> Steven_M: apt-cache search <keyword>
[04:16] <ilba7r> Steven_M, the package is sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:17] <ilba7r> i think it has a shell that will download and install from macromed website
[04:17] <fangorious> ilba7r: that sounds right
[04:24] <nightwatch> there is a brazilian version of kubuntu? can I choose this language during instalation?
[04:27] <visik7> ok kaffeine doesn't play wmv even if codecs are installed in /usr/lib/win32
[04:27] <visik7> it says:
[04:28] <visik7> deb http://www.tux.org/pub/java/debian/ sid non-free
[04:28] <visik7> ops
[04:28] <visik7> :)
[04:28] <visik7> ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-wma, wmaversion=(int)2, bitrate=(int)8000, rate=(int)8000, channels=(int)1, block_align=(int)64, codec_data=(buffer)00220000000000000000
[04:28] <visik7> ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-msmpeg, msmpegversion=(int)43, framerate=(double)25, width=(int)176, height=(int)144
[04:32] <Voodoo_Vibe> How do i install java for konquerer??
[04:35] <steven_jm> ilba7r: it is steven_m here, did my thanks message come through? I may have accidentally cut myself off from the net. Anyway thankyou for your help today
[04:36] <ilba7r> steven_jm, you are more than welcomed. no did not come through earlier. :)
[04:37] <steven_jm> ilba7r:  please pass on my thanks to fangorious too if you talk to him soon.
[04:37] <ilba7r> steven_jm, for sure if i saw him.
[04:37] <Voodoo_Vibe> can i install java from apt-get??
[04:38] <ilba7r> Voodoo_Vibe, yap if you have the repos for it
[04:38] <ilba7r> !reps
[04:38] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, ilba7r
[04:38] <ilba7r> !repos
[04:38] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:38] <Voodoo_Vibe> ilba7r: so what is the easiest way to get it??? on konquerer
[04:39] <ilba7r> Voodoo_Vibe, mm i always had prob with it and konq. I used to run it with firefox
[04:39] <visik7> someone able to see wmv an listen to  wma in kaffeine ?
[04:39] <bur[n] er> visik7: get w32codecs
[04:39] <ilba7r> Voodoo_Vibe, but basiclally you install the mozilla-plugin and use konquer to scan for new plugins
[04:40] <visik7> bur[n] er: w32codecs are installed
[04:40] <visik7> but I  got the messages above
[04:40] <Voodoo_Vibe> ilba7r: ohhh ok thanx!
[04:40] <bur[n] er> visik7: kaffeine-xine ?
[04:40] <visik7> installed
[04:40] <visik7> but dunno how to set it
[04:40] <visik7> it stay on gstreamer
[04:41] <bur[n] er> uhh... apt-get install totem-xine ;)
[04:41] <visik7> no I don't want to use totem
[04:41] <bur[n] er> to be honest, I use totem still... and i odn't have any .wma .wmv to test kaffeine :\
[04:41] <visik7> if I want an external player I'll use mplayer xine or vlc alone
[04:42] <ilba7r> visik7 re install re configure kaffiene if you installed the codecs after it
[04:42] <visik7> ok works
[04:42] <visik7> with xine
[04:42] <visik7> gstramer doesn't support wmv at all ?
[04:42] <ilba7r> i remember it search for the codecs during the first installation step and not after that
[04:43] <visik7> ilba7r: ok now works
[04:43] <visik7> using xine backend
[04:44] <ilba7r> ok
[04:44] <visik7> btw afais gstreamer doesn't support wmv ( 0.8)
[04:46] <Voodoo_Vibe> ilba7r: how do i install java for firefox?? i got an message like press here to get java but nothing happens
[04:46] <_tao> I've got a display pb, I can use ubuntu correctly but after a few time some grey or pink zones appears on the screen. Do u know what I could do ??
[04:47] <ilba7r> !java
[04:47] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:47] <ilba7r> Voodoo_Vibe, follow ubotu link
[04:47] <Voodoo_Vibe> ilba7r: thanx!
[04:50] <_tao> is anyone could help me pls ??
[04:57] <kkathman> _tao whats wrong?
[04:59] <_tao> I said it before, I have display pbs
[05:00] <_tao> after running correctly, suddenly the display becomes weird
[05:00] <boow> every thing smooth accept choppy mp3 playback in amarok
[05:00] <_tao> with pink or grey or any color zones on the screen
[05:01] <kkathman> _tao that sound like either a bad driver (if you installed one) or possibly a resolution issue
[05:01] <kkathman> _tao how long is it "stable" before it begins to go bad?
[05:02] <_tao> well I didn't installed the driver (I wanted but I couldn't)
[05:03] <_tao> it's not a matter of time, right now I'm using my laptop, and my desktop (the one with ubuntu) is still running fine is some time
[05:03] <_tao> "since some time"
[05:03] <kkathman> _tao is it ok for hours at a time, or minutes?
[05:03] <_tao> well I even could say hours
[05:04] <_tao> if I don't use it
[05:04] <_tao> in fact, it happens when I scroll up or down windows
[05:04] <_tao> and I had that same pb when I had mandriva
[05:05] <juif> whooo even with this GUI can i install software ? not i !
[05:05] <juif> dude, ok, i download firefox, its in a .tar.gz file, i uncompress it to a folder, click on the executables in there, nothing happens
[05:05] <juif> how does one install software ?
[05:07] <ilba7r> juif if you downloaded firefox 1.5 from their websit just click on the firefox SH file
[05:07] <ilba7r> it  will run it for you
[05:07] <kkathman> _tao this sounds like a problem with your video card if you had probs with mandriva also
[05:07] <kkathman> _tao you could try to reconfigure x I suppose
[05:07] <_tao> I did it
[05:08] <kkathman> _tao  you did a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:08] <_tao> yeah
[05:08] <kkathman> _tao how about experienting with the resolutions and refresh rates
[05:09] <_tao> well I have a lcd screen so I set it at 1280*1024@75hz
[05:10] <kkathman> _tao have you tried other resolutions that dont use a 4:3 aspect?
[05:11] <_tao> no I didn't, but I'd rather stay at 1280*1024
[05:12] <kkathman> _tao  I understand, but I do know some people have reported that their hardware seems to be stable at different aspect ratios other than 4:3
[05:12] <_tao> in fact I think I can do everything excepted internet
[05:13] <juif> theres no sh file in there, maybe i should download again, or something
[05:15] <juif> cannot execute ./bash - bin -  it says
[05:15] <_tao> yep, after running fine for some time, I tried to go on internet and bam I had that display pb
[05:16] <_tao> but I just have to exit my session to find back a good display
[05:17] <kkathman> _tao does that monitor work with other computers?
[05:18] <_tao> yeah, I have it since more than a year and it works fine with windows
[05:19] <kavit> the new ATI driver does give a fair performance improvement.
[05:19] <kavit> the only problem is that the dual head doesnt seem to be working properly with kde
[06:05] <joshisscifi> hey everybody
[06:07] <dandielionous> hello
[06:07] <dandielionous> Well I got xine to work and totem movie player but I still can't get a link to play a video when I click on it.
[06:08] <joshisscifi> whats the best way to go about getting java up and going for programming purposes in kubuntu?
[06:08] <dandielionous> Do I need realplayer or is there a way for kubuntu to do it.
[06:08] <dandielionous> Hey I got java working.
[06:08] <dandielionous> lol
[06:08] <dandielionous> At least the plug in.
[06:09] <dandielionous> I'm sorry joshisscifi I'm really new and can't really help you with that.
[06:09] <joshisscifi> its all good
[06:10] <dandielionous> I'm trying to figure out if I need to install realplayer.
[06:10] <dandielionous> So if I click on a link that has a video it will play it.
[06:10] <joshisscifi> probably, or a real alternative codec
[06:10] <dandielionous> See look how much you know. :)
[06:11] <dandielionous> I installed everything java related I could find in synaptic and got the java plug in working.
[06:11] <dandielionous> It also installed the java console.
[06:11] <dandielionous> If that helps you any.
[06:11] <dandielionous> I had to set my preferences also in my browser.
[06:12] <joshisscifi> hmm.... k
[06:12] <dandielionous> I don't know if that's what you want to know or not.
[06:13] <dandielionous> I do know I have streaming video working for the first time in my life and it's really kewl.
[06:13] <dandielionous> :)
[06:13] <dandielionous> Nice jazz playing from shoutcast.
[06:13] <joshisscifi> cool
[06:13] <dandielionous> Just like I always heard people could do.
[06:13] <dandielionous> First time it's ever worked for me.
[06:13] <dandielionous> I never did get it to work right in windows.
[06:14] <dandielionous> Well I guess I'm off to try and figure out how to install real player.
[06:14] <joshisscifi> alrighty
[06:14] <joshisscifi> google is master lol
[06:14] <dandielionous> Then my machine should be set up pretty well for a while.
[06:14] <dandielionous> lol I hear that.
[06:19] <burepe2> Can someone look at the contents of this .patch file and tell me what file I am supposed to apply it to. It seems like there is the name of the file at the top, but there is another one half way down. I am confused. Here is the contents of the file http://pastebin.com/495989
[06:20] <juif> i get the feeling there lots of packages i should be installing before i think of using any software, any hints ?
[06:22] <_alan> hello
[06:22] <klepty> hola
[06:22] <_alan> is anyone up for a dumb question?
[06:23] <klepty> someone please show me how to find where things are installed after an apt-get install?
[06:23] <murph2481> klepty: what did you install?
[06:23] <klepty> nothing in particular but when i look for the binary to run sometimes i can't find them
[06:24] <murph2481> klepty: usually it is added to the menu, but if not search for the package name in the search off the menu
[06:24] <_alan> if I have an AMD-6d4 motherboard is it okay to istall the 1386 ubuntu iso? i was having trouble swith amd so i reverted back
[06:25] <murph2481> usually the binary's are in /etc/
[06:25] <klepty> ahh i figured that there was some flag that would show it
[06:25] <murph2481> adept or synaptic can tell you if the package was installed
[06:25] <murph2481> short of that i believe you are stuck with searching :)
[06:25] <_alan> AMD 64
[06:26] <joshisscifi> _alan: yes it will work
[06:27] <_alan> i read in some postings not to install amd 64 unless i had a specific reaon too
[06:28] <klepty> true.. i have kubuntu running on a 64bit laptop and i am running the 386 vers
[06:28] <klepty> works perfectly
[06:50] <juif> i cant install any software , i get all kinds of errors, i was trying to install mozilla or just firefox, nothing wants to install. wtf ?
[06:51] <mr-russ> juif: use pastebin to paste the errors.
[06:51] <juif> is kubuntu missing some libraries, or all libraries or something ? :) seems to not even play mp3s :) even tho it recognises it
[06:51] <juif> well, its not giving me any errors when i click on them from the GUI
[06:51] <mr-russ> yes, because mp3's are patented and you need a license to use them.
[06:52] <_alan> how do you open konqueror in super-user mode?
[06:52] <juif> but it says stuff about permissions, in the text interface
[06:52] <mr-russ> so enable multiverse repository and installl the mp3 addon's there.
[06:52] <mr-russ> juif: "stuff"??
[06:52] <juif> multiverse repository ? what is that and how do i enable it ?
[06:52] <_alan> i cant find super-user file browser in ubuntu
[06:53] <juif> yes stuff, sorry, i didnt cut and paste that was a moment ago
[06:53] <mr-russ> _alan: I don't know, run kdesu konquorer
[06:53] <juif> i havent been able to run any programs that didnt come with kubuntu
[06:54] <mr-russ> juif: okay, that's the problem.  What do you actually want to do?
[06:54] <Calilasseia> juif, you having problems with Breezy updates?
[06:54] <juif> well, i just wanted to do things, like install software. i download .tar.gz files, unpack them to directories, click on the executable files, nothing happens
[06:55] <_alan> thank you
[06:55] <juif> when i go into the text interface, it says permission denied and other various errors
[06:55] <mr-russ> sudo apt-get install "software"
[06:55] <sampan> juif, you should use adept (or aptitude or apt-get) to install software from the repositories
[06:55] <juif> or just logs me out
[06:55] <mr-russ> and that gives you permission denied, or are you using adept to install software?
[06:56] <juif> the repositories ? what are those ?
[06:56] <sampan> !repositories
[06:56] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:56] <_alan> ar russ that was a 2 year problem fixed thanks
[06:56] <juif> sudo apt-get install "software" i will try it, i hadnt tried that
[06:56] <sampan> juif, they are collections of packages that ubuntu has read for download and automatic installation via adept/aptitude/apt-get
[06:56] <sampan> all pre-compiled and ready to go
[06:57] <sampan> read = ready
[06:57] <juif> ok
[06:57] <juif> i will go try that now
[06:57] <Calilasseia> However, Juif, to use the repositories, you will have to edit a file - apt-sources I think it's called ...
[06:58] <Calilasseia> And add the names of the new repositories to the list in that text file ...
[06:58] <mr-russ> juif: are you new to linux, or just ubuntu?
[06:58] <sampan> juif, read ubotu's link about enabling the universe/multiverse repositories -- they contain many of the most common packages.  the file that tells kubuntu where (which repos) to download from is: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:59] <Calilasseia> That's the file I was looking for ... /etc/apt/sources.list ... thanks for the memory jog ....
[06:59] <Calilasseia> You have to edit that file ... you will need root permissions though ...
[07:00] <sampan> it's a simple text file that you can edit several ways: (a) within adept (package manager application), (b) sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list or (c) kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:00] <juif> i am new to all *nix
[07:00] <mr-russ> juif: okay.
[07:00] <Calilasseia> Juif, one fundamental rule to learn is this ... ANY changes to the system generally require what are called "super user" permissions ...
[07:01] <Calilasseia> This is to stop malicious outsiders from messing with your installation among other things ...
[07:01] <Calilasseia> To run various applications with those permissions in KDE, you select "Run" from the menu, then type "kdesu" followed by the name of the application ...
[07:02] <Calilasseia> It will then ask you for your password ...
[07:02] <Calilasseia> Once you've supplied your password, you can then make changes to the system ...
[07:03] <Calilasseia> So for example, to run Kate with super user permissions so that you can edit the sources.list file, you type "kdesu kate"
[07:03] <Calilasseia> Then you can use Kate to edit the files you want ...
[07:03] <Calilasseia> Provided of course that they are text files!
[07:04] <juif> okay.. and whats with this sudo thing ?
[07:04] <mr-russ> Calilasseia: I'd suggest he use adept and edit sources.list from there.
[07:04] <Calilasseia> Ah ...
[07:04] <mr-russ> juif: it's like run as administrator on windows.
[07:04] <Calilasseia> "sudo" is used in the text interface to perform the same job ...
[07:04] <mr-russ> sudo "S"uper"U"ser "DO"
[07:05] <juif> ok
[07:05] <juif> cool
[07:05] <sampan> sudo = superuser do ... it executes a command as "superuser".  generally you shouldn't start GUI apps with "sudo" b/c it can mess up config files for that app.  if you're gonna run a GUI app as superuser use: kdesu
[07:05] <Calilasseia> To run a command with super user permissions, you type, for example, "sudo gedit"
[07:05] <joshisscifi> alright, is there a definitive reason to upgrade to kde 3.5?
[07:05] <Calilasseia> "sudo" is for the command line interface and shell commands, while "kdesu" is for KDE applications ...
[07:06] <mr-russ> joshisscifi: depend who you are, I would say not.  wait for dapper it's not that imperative.
[07:06] <Calilasseia> But they do the same job - give you super user permissions ...
[07:06] <sampan> joshisscifi  only if you want the latest/greatest ... there's no pressing reason to do so if you're happy with 3.4.3
[07:06] <ndazza> joshisscifi: it's newer... :P
[07:06] <joshisscifi> lol alrighty
[07:06] <mr-russ> joshisscifi: unless you want one of the fancy new features like acl support.
[07:06] <joshisscifi> well at the moment the only thing I need to do is get BlueJ up and running
[07:06] <ndazza> it has acl support?? <opens konqueror>
[07:06] <juif> ahh for kde super user
[07:07] <Calilasseia> Only thing is Juif, be careful what you do and what files you tinker with when you have super user permissions!
[07:07] <juif> ok, i'll try. but im pretty sure ill have to re-install before the month is over :)
[07:07] <mr-russ> ndazza: it is supposed to, so if you right click file permissions, you should get a fancy interface.
[07:07] <Calilasseia> For example, I wouldn't edit the mount list for your system's drives unless you REALLY know what you're doing ...
[07:08] <ndazza> yeah i see it, that's cool
[07:08] <Calilasseia> That's a good way of unhinging the system ...
[07:08] <mr-russ> the thing that's impossible to recover from is an rm -fr / as root
[07:09] <sampan> except in an irc window ;x
[07:09] <joshisscifi> anyone have an idea about this:
[07:09] <joshisscifi> ** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)
[07:09] <ndazza> joshisscifi: i'd say you're trying to compile something...
[07:09] <ndazza> oh wait it's a failed assertion
[07:09] <Calilasseia> Oh ABSOLUTELY NEVER type that in a unix terminal window as root ... (argh) ..
[07:09] <ndazza> programmer error
[07:09] <juif> whats the deal with 'compiling' programs ?
[07:10] <juif> i dont seem to get it
[07:10] <joshisscifi> hmm
[07:10] <Calilasseia> Juif, here's an explanation ...
[07:10] <mr-russ> juif: instead of getting a program you can run, you get files you can read to change a program.
[07:10] <mr-russ> juif: you have to compile it so people can run it.
[07:10] <Calilasseia> A lot of Linux applications are supplied as source code that you can edit and customise ...
[07:10] <joshisscifi> guess I better try to find a binary install
[07:11] <Calilasseia> But you have to pass that source code (usually C or a similar language) to a compiler and create an executable file ....
[07:11] <mr-russ> I'm hitting a big learning curve attempting to make debian/ubuntu packages when I've used ubuntu for a week, and never used debian :(
[07:11] <juif> how does one compile those files ? can someone just download software x, stick source code y in it, and end up with working software z ?
[07:11] <Calilasseia> Which assumes you know also how to program in C or C++ ... if you don't know about C or C++ programming you've a LOT to learn!
[07:12] <juif> oh
[07:12] <juif> hahah
[07:12] <mr-russ> juif: that's the basic explanation.
[07:12] <juif> so i should stay away from source code compiling ?
[07:12] <mr-russ> juif: but ubuntu compiles everything for you, so you install software and can use it straight away.
[07:12] <sampan> juif, if you're new to *nix, you probably have no need to mess with compiling for awhile.  the repos have all the packages you're likely to need ;)
[07:12] <Calilasseia> If you want to install software, you need access to pre-compiled binary executable files ....
[07:12] <mr-russ> adept lets you install programs you can run.
[07:12] <juif> ok
[07:13] <Calilasseia> The repositories and apt-get give you access to lots of programs pre-compiled and ready to run on Kubuntu ...
[07:13] <joshisscifi> how do I remove the java sdk etc that I installed through adept fully?
[07:13] <juif> sounds fine for me, i'll look around the available things
[07:13] <mr-russ> juif: adept will give you 17000+ things :)
[07:14] <mr-russ> K -> System -> Package Manager (Adept)
[07:14] <Calilasseia> Quick question Juif - do you know the distinction between source code and an executable? This is a pretty crucial piece of knowledge here ...
[07:14] <juif> executable you can run. source code is code, you cant run, you need to make an executable out of it.
[07:15] <Calilasseia> OK, that's fine for now ...
[07:15] <Calilasseia> The beauty of having source code of course, Juif, is that if you DO know how to program in C etc., you can modify the source ...
[07:15] <Calilasseia> And create your own customised version of the program ...
[07:16] <juif> but
[07:16] <juif> if you dont know C, can you compile as is
[07:16] <juif> and run it ?
[07:16] <juif> as is ?
[07:16] <Calilasseia> There exists a C compiler that comes with the system ... I believe the old "cc" compiler is still available ....
[07:17] <mr-russ> gcc ?
[07:17] <Calilasseia> Ah, of course - gcc is a better one :)
[07:17] <Calilasseia> It's a bit more modern and it's under the GNU licence :)
[07:18] <Calilasseia> What you have to do with source code, Juif, is determine which language it's written in ...
[07:18] <juif> ok
[07:18] <Calilasseia> If it's C, then you have to pass the source code to the C compiler to create your executable ...
[07:18] <juif> ok
[07:18] <Calilasseia> However, if your source code is a Perl script, you pass that instead to the Perl interpreter, which runs it for you ...
[07:19] <juif> and thats it ?
[07:19] <Calilasseia> Not quite ... to find out how to use the C compiler you need the manual page ...
[07:19] <Calilasseia> In a terminal or shell window, type "man gcc" and read the HUGE amount of text that the manual spits out!
[07:20] <juif> haha, ok
[07:20] <Calilasseia> Oh, that's another beauty of the system  - the "man" command gives you manual pages for all the system commands etc ...
[07:20] <juif> where do i type !repositories ? i tried it in the text interface and it did nothing
[07:20] <Calilasseia> The repositories have to be added to a special text file containing a list of these entities ...
[07:20] <sampan> juif, easiest way of enabling the repositories is to run Adept (on kmenu)
[07:21] <juif> i am looking around the Adept menu right now
[07:21] <sampan> it's the package manager application.  run it. it will ask for your password.
[07:21] <sampan> then at the top, there's a menubar -- under the Adept tab there will be (in drop down menu) "manage repositories"
[07:21] <sampan> click it
[07:22] <juif> ok
[07:22] <Calilasseia> Ah, this must be one of the Breezy improvements ... it wasn't in Hoary ...
[07:22] <juif> gives me a list
[07:22] <Calilasseia> Or at least I never found it :)
[07:22] <sampan> you'll see a list, mostly greyed out.  all the lines that have "universe" or "multiverse" on them, right-click and select "enable"
[07:22] <juif> of servers
[07:22] <ndazza> Calilasseia: i think you're confusing things a little - for an end user the standard ./configure; make; make install will usually work!
[07:23] <sampan> juif, oh and the first line or second should be the "cdrom" -- DISABLE that
[07:23] <ndazza> if you have a broadband internet connection...
[07:23] <juif> no cd  rom in there
[07:24] <sampan> top line isn't "Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger..." ?   hrmmmm -- well if it's not there, then don't worry about it :)
[07:24] <Calilasseia> Ndazza, in the past I've had all the fun of mending broken makefiles ... :)
[07:24] <Calilasseia> Sometimes I gave up and compiled things the hard way :)
[07:25] <juif> yes it is
[07:25] <juif> breezy badger, etc.. should i disable that ?
[07:25] <sampan> juif, yes -- disable it ... otherwise it will ask you to insert the cd everytime you try to update your package list
[07:26] <_dad> any Kaffeine xperts around
[07:26] <_dad> I keep getting GStreamer could not initlize
[07:26] <juif> and all those repositories will appear in my adept menu now ?
[07:26] <sampan> juif, when you're done enabling the universe/multiverse ... then click "apply" at the bottom or "commit changes" at the top. then click "fetch updates" at the top
[07:27] <ndazza> Calilasseia: usually it's just missing dependencies - try compiling OOo without make! :p
[07:27] <Calilasseia> Ndazza, I'd rather not!! :)
[07:27] <joshisscifi> can anybody recommend a good java ide?
[07:27] <joshisscifi> eclipse just doesn't do it for me
[07:27] <sampan> juif, and your system will now fetch a whole bunch of lists from the repositories of packages that you can install
[07:28] <Calilasseia> Josh, I'd avoid Netbeans like the plague ...
[07:28] <ndazza> joshisscifi: i prefer vim :)
[07:28] <joshisscifi> ndazza: will vim highlight and color?
[07:28] <joshisscifi> I'm actually learning java this semester, and we're supposed to use BlueJ, but it won't install on here atm
[07:28] <Calilasseia> I installed that with the Java 2SE download from Sun and it was a total crock ...
[07:28] <_alan> lame problem #420 i cant seem to install firefox ... it was fine i unistalled it and deleteded its folders, reinstalled it and and apt-get installed firefox , but it wont open
[07:29] <juif> yeah, this is great
[07:29] <ndazza> joshisscifi: yes
[07:29] <juif> theres tons of software in that list
[07:29] <sampan> juif, now, enjoy browsing the 17,000 or so packages! ;D
[07:29] <joshisscifi> ndazza: k, have you checked out Jbuilder or jedit?
[07:29] <_alan> i uninstalled firefox because it wouldnt open just tried and tried then dissapeared
[07:30] <Calilasseia> Oh and Juif, one recommendation I can give ... find a good general Linux textbook in your bookstore, and take it home and digest thoroughly ...
[07:30] <ndazza> joshisscifi: not that i recall - if i'm using a gui editor i tend to use kate, that has syntax highlighting and some other goodies
[07:30] <joshisscifi> ndazza: lemme adept that
[07:30] <ndazza> joshisscifi: oh and for a nice cross-platform one try jgrasp
[07:30] <ndazza> joshisscifi: if you have kubuntu installed you will already have it
[07:30] <ndazza> joshisscifi: just alt+f2 -> kate
[07:31] <joshisscifi> well looky there
[07:31] <sampan> hey kkathman :)
[07:31] <joshisscifi> it says upgradeable in adept, might as well take care of that
[07:31] <kkathman> hey sampan ;)
[07:31] <juif> yes, i plan on that, its a fascinating phenomenon
[07:31] <juif> free beer for all
[07:32] <Calilasseia> Oh, and while on the subject of Java IDEs ...
[07:32] <_dad> anyone know why I am getting a GStreamer error??????????????
[07:32] <sampan> _dad, because something isn't working right?
[07:32] <_dad> hehe
[07:32] <Calilasseia> I need one that I can run on both a Linux system and a (dreaded) Wintel box ...
[07:32] <ndazza> _dad: what app are you trying to run?
[07:32] <joshisscifi> hmm, lemme test out the dvd playing
[07:32] <ndazza> Calilasseia: see the aforementioned JGrasp
[07:33] <_dad> Kaffeine is giving me an failor on the GStreamer
[07:33] <Calilasseia> JGrasp ... that will run on Kubuntu sure ... you just said it comes with Kubuntu ...
[07:33] <ndazza> _dad: kaffeine is horrible in my opinion :) try xine
[07:33] <Calilasseia> But is there a Wintel port as well ???
[07:33] <_dad> K
[07:34] <ndazza> Calilasseia: nope, sorry that was my fault - kate comes with kubuntu
[07:34] <joshisscifi> Kaffeine: Cannot read info for dvd
[07:34] <sampan> you can even try the xine engine for kaffeine (kaffeine-xine)
[07:34] <joshisscifi> boo
[07:34] <joshisscifi> guess I gotta install gstreamer?
[07:34] <Calilasseia> Trouble is I need a Jav IDE that works on both ...
[07:34] <dandielionous> I finally have my music working in totem.
[07:34] <ndazza> Calilasseia: yes, it's written in java and can compile and run on both platforms
[07:34] <Calilasseia> Netbeans was suppsed to deliver the goods because it was allegedly written in Java ... but when I tried using Netbeans, it fell on its face ...
[07:35] <dandielionous> I tried installing real player to links that have video popups but it don't work.
[07:35] <dandielionous> Messed up my totem.
[07:35] <joshisscifi> wtf
[07:35] <joshisscifi> gstreamer0.8-dvd installed
[07:35] <ndazza> Calilasseia: i have had netbeans running successfully on linux before, and at my old uni it was running on an old Sun box
[07:35] <joshisscifi> yet.... kaffeine won't open my dvd?
[07:35] <ndazza> Calilasseia: but jgrasp is nowhere near as heavyweight, it's more likely to succeed
[07:36] <ndazza> joshisscifi: it is probably encrypted - that's a whole new can of worms!
[07:36] <Calilasseia> Right ... so do a google search on JGrasp for my Wintel box, and use Adept to update it on my Kubuntu system ...
[07:36] <ndazza> !dvd
[07:36] <joshisscifi> ugh.... time for me to learn how to play encrypted again
[07:36] <ndazza> !tell joshisscifi about dvd
[07:37] <joshisscifi> aha!
[07:37] <ndazza> Calilasseia: uhm, not sure if it's packaged in kubuntu actually
[07:37] <ndazza> Calilasseia: when i installed it i ended up compiling it
[07:37] <Calilasseia> Argh ....
[07:38] <ndazza> Calilasseia: actually maybe i didn't - i think it's distributed as java bytecode, so if you have sun's J2RE installed it will just work
[07:38] <Calilasseia> Checking the home page now ...
[07:39] <Calilasseia> Yup, got the full J2SE development kit installed ... that should be fine ...
[07:40] <ndazza> yeah that'll do it
[07:40] <ndazza> it might even run under kaffe
[07:40] <Calilasseia> Says there's a self-extracting exe for Wintel, and a generic ZIP version for assorted Linux distros ...
[07:40] <joshisscifi> I forgot how to change runlevels so I can install my nvidia drivers
[07:41] <ndazza> joshisscifi: uh it might be sudo telinit 2
[07:41] <joshisscifi> k
[07:41] <ndazza> joshisscifi: but that will kill all your gui apps (if it works)
[07:41] <_dad> Ndazza!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:41] <joshisscifi> ndazza: yeah its supposed to in order to install the drivers
[07:42] <_dad> THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:42] <sampan> joshisscifi  are you trying to install the absolute latest nvidia drivers?
[07:42] <_dad> I here my MP#'s
[07:42] <_dad> YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[07:42] <ndazza> _dad: no worries... - for mp3s try amarok though
[07:42] <_dad> Amarok crashes too
[07:43] <joshisscifi> sampan: I will be in a moment yes
[07:43] <ndazza> _dad: okay, xmms then :)
[07:43] <sampan> k, just asking b/c the repos have the 7667s all .debbed up
[07:43] <ndazza> _dad: those apps are better suited to managing music collections
[07:43] <_dad> xmms not loaed yet
[07:43] <joshisscifi> hmm, I'll check those
[07:43] <_dad> cool
[07:43] <Calilasseia> Just checked the JGrasp homepage ... apparently NASA had a hand in ideveloping it ...
[07:44] <Calilasseia> In which case it should work :)
[07:44] <joshisscifi> sure if you don't have to convert meters to feet
[07:44] <joshisscifi> lol
[07:44] <ndazza> Calilasseia: either that or you need to be a rocket scientist to get it working :)
[07:45] <juif> the programs that you enable in adept
[07:45] <juif> do they require reboots ?
[07:46] <ndazza> juif: nope
[07:46] <Khris_dx> How do I get rid of the annoying bubbles when I hover mouse over K menu?
[07:46] <Calilasseia> Right, I'm off to browse JGrasp & see if it'l deliver the goods ... thanks NDazza :)
[07:46] <Calilasseia> Bye everyone ...
[07:46] <sampan> khris_dx  iirc, you need to turn off mouse-over effects in system settings (desktop? appearance? something like that)
[07:47] <juif> i enabled a couple mp3 codecs and still cant play any
[07:47] <ndazza> juif: what app are you using to play them?
[07:48] <juif> i tried amarok and kaffeine
[07:48] <juif> what is kfile ?
[07:48] <sampan> juif, you should probably read and follow the restricted formats wiki (link from ubotu in a moment)
[07:48] <sampan> !restrictedformats
[07:48] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:49] <ndazza> juif: no idea - but install xmms and you should be right i think
[07:49] <juif> oh, the text, ok, ill read that
[07:49] <ndazza> there's a package you have to install to get mp3 support in kde - anyone remember what it is?
[07:49] <ndazza> something about libmad
[07:50] <sampan> i always forget the multimedia packages i had to install -- which is why i just point people to the wiki ;x
[07:50] <sampan> it was a whole bunch of alphabet soup -- can't ever remember the names
[07:50] <joshisscifi> woot
[07:50] <joshisscifi> dvd playing :)
[07:59] <rance> I need some advice, Ive got a programming project to do and it needs to log in to an email address, check the messages, for each it needs to parse the messages looking for those that contain a proper format for a database insert statement.  I know how to do this in php, but kubuntu's php implementation doesnt include the imap/pop3 options.  Im hesitant to build php myself since it could break the dependency on other packages, so i
[07:59] <rance>  I do, will that get me where I need to go, or is there a php package that adds the imap-pop3 functions to php like the php-mysql packages do?
[08:00] <_dad> nsazza...... Xine and Xmms working great... Kaffeene (crap) is gone...Thanks dued
 Thanks, found it under Panel => Appearance
[08:05] <CyberMad> how could i run as root without using sudo in console, root@host:~# ?
[08:05] <ndazza> sudo -s
[08:06] <sampan> khris_dx  :) glad you found it
[08:06] <joshisscifi> brb, nvidia time
[08:08] <ndazza> rance: there's php[345] -imap packages
[08:09] <CyberMad> ow thank you
[08:10] <rance> ok, thanks, I just found the libpop python library as well
[08:11] <ndazza> good luck with ur project :)
[08:13] <rance> ndazza, thanks, hey I just checked adept, and filtered for php and I cant find a php-imap package, is there someting I need to do to have adept look somewhere else, this is MOSTLY a default kubuntu install with a couple of configuration changes for my hardware
[08:13] <ndazza> rance: it might be in the universe or multiverse repositories, have you set those up?
[08:13] <rance> no
[08:14] <ndazza> !tell rance about repositiories
[08:14] <ndazza> !tell rance about repositiory
[08:14] <ndazza> !tell rance about repositories
[08:14] <ndazza> damn spelling...
[08:14] <rance> there it goes
[08:14] <rance> thanks you
[08:14] <ndazza> no worries
[08:21] <joshisscifi> anyone wanna help me get the wireless to auto-start?
[08:23] <ndazza> joshisscifi: try fiddling with the file /etc/network/interfaces (i think that's it)
[08:23] <joshisscifi> k
[08:25] <joshisscifi> alright, I installed the nvidia-glx from adept, and ran the config.... does it need a reboot?
[08:25] <joshisscifi> opengl is still running sloooooow
[08:41] <juif> thanks for the help people, i think i will like this os
[09:00] <blackflag> hello all
[09:01] <blackflag> I sthere a way to do copying files within console from one computer to another?
[09:01] <blackflag> ftp?
[09:01] <blackflag> or are there other ways?
[09:10] <nomasteryoda|w> sftp
[09:10] <nomasteryoda|w> many
[09:10] <blackflag> okay, Im connected cia console to the ftp server
[09:11] <blackflag> how can I now copy a file to the server?
[09:11] <blackflag> I do ?
[09:11] <blackflag> but there is no copy command
[09:20] <juif> could it be that compressed video is laggy and skips ? using VLC
[09:20] <juif> cant run it full-screen without comical stop-motion aspect
[09:21] <juif> normal /
[09:21] <juif> ?
[09:22] <_dad> <--- noob.. what is the best graphis program??
[09:23] <_dad> For working with JPG that is
[09:35] <C-O-L-T> who can help me in installing ww2d program like google earth
[09:40] <C-O-L-T>  who can help me in installing ww2d program like google eartg
[09:47] <C-O-L-T> callie: are you there? Please help me in installing ww2d program like google earth, I told you yesterday about it
[09:54] <juif> anyone know why video playback is poor ?
[09:54] <juif> with all programs i try
[10:01] <tenco> hi all!
[10:02] <tenco> where should i install the win32 codecs for mplayer with breezy?
[10:07] <C-O-L-T>  who can help me in installing ww2d
[10:07] <C-O-L-T> ??????????????
[10:07] <C-O-L-T> GOOGLE EARTH FOR LINUX
[10:08] <hara> what source do i need to insert to sources.list to get newest avidemux2 ?
[10:14] <tenco> C-O-L-T: whats ww2d
[10:14] <tenco> s///d
[10:15] <tenco> s//?
[10:15] <tenco> argh
[10:22] <DjDarkman> hy ,i bought a better monitor ,how can I adjust the available resolutions and freqencies?
[10:23] <crimsun> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:24] <DjDarkman> 10x
[10:31] <C-O-L-T> tenco: GOOGLE EARTH FOR LINUX
[10:31] <C-O-L-T> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[10:34] <DjDarkman> hy again ,please give me a link where I can find the information ,about mounting and fstab
[10:35] <callie> www.google.com
[10:36] <tenco> DjDarkman: http://www.tldp.org/
[10:37] <DjDarkman> k 10x
[10:38] <tenco> 10x? (thanks?)
[10:38] <callie> or 10x = tenx = tenco?
[10:39] <tenco> :-)
[10:40] <thegladiator> i did  a #kubuntu-dektop install in my ubuntu
[10:41] <tenco> thegladiator: great.
[10:41] <thegladiator> in services , I can see a graphical logical manager(gdm) running
[10:41] <thegladiator> along with glm for kde
[10:41] <tenco> whats glm?
[10:41] <thegladiator> i wonderwhy these 2 are running are they requured ?
[10:42] <thegladiator> graphical logical manager
[10:42] <ilba7r> install kdm as an alternative thegladiator
[10:42] <thegladiator> sorry i mean login manaegr
[10:43] <thegladiator> ilba7r, it is installde with kubuntu-dekto
[10:43] <thegladiator> desktop*
[10:43] <thegladiator> no ?
[10:43] <ilba7r> i thought so but did you configure it to be your default
[10:44] <thegladiator> i am not sure , I didnt configure
[10:44] <ilba7r> if you do so you can remove gdm safely if you wish to
[10:44] <ilba7r> during the installation you were presented a question which you prefer as your default
[10:44] <thegladiator> actually I dont want to rmove gdm manager , rather I woul like to set kdm as default
[10:44] <thegladiator> and deactivate gdm only
[10:44] <thegladiator> how can I do this
[10:44] <ilba7r> i think the command is dpkg -reconfigure kdm but let me check
[10:45] <thegladiator> thank you please tell me
[10:45] <strider> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[10:45] <thegladiator> strider what does that do ?
[10:45] <ilba7r> here you go we have confirmation
[10:45] <strider> It will give you a choice
[10:45] <strider> choose KDM
[10:45] <thegladiator> actually i like the gdm login screen as opposed to my kdm screen
[10:45] <ilba7r> strider also can be reconfigure kdm
[10:46] <strider> yes either one ;)
[10:46] <thegladiator> either one could work ?
[10:46] <thegladiator> oops
[10:46] <CGA> hi y'all && how comes that amarok it can play mp3 out of the box? what do in need to install? (FYI: i've searched through adept and synaptic)
[10:46] <thegladiator> i can use gdm for kubuntu ?
[10:46] <ilba7r> yao
[10:46] <ilba7r> sorry yap done that for a while
[10:47] <thegladiator> !erstricted format
[10:47] <ubotu> thegladiator: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:47] <strider> thegladiator: oh yes
[10:47] <ilba7r> !restictedformat
[10:47] <ubotu> ilba7r: Are you on ritalin?
[10:47] <ilba7r> !restricted
[10:47] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:47] <CGA> thanks ilba7r
[10:48] <ilba7r> thegladiator, ubotu seems to be picky to whom it respond ;). its picky to the question though
[10:48] <thegladiator> strider, so I will get the gnome splash if I do that way ?
[10:48] <thegladiator> he he:)
[10:48] <ilba7r> CGA, ur welcomed
[10:49] <CGA> =)
[10:50] <strider> thegladiator: let me put it this way. I have bothe Gnome and KDE and prefer GDM. you can change the screen too - type sudo gdmsetup
[10:50] <thegladiator> i mean I dont need gnome splash but human login  screen is very nice
[10:50] <thegladiator> i see
[10:50] <thegladiator> let me try and se th results
[10:50] <strider> thegladiator: you can always go back. do a reconfigure gdm and voila! heh
[10:51] <thegladiator> yep :)
[10:52] <CGA> ilba7r: do i need to restart amarok or something to be able to use that lib? i've installed it and it returns the same error if i try to D&D the file on the playlist.
[10:53] <thegladiator> just close the program
[10:53] <thegladiator> and re-run mayb
[10:53] <CGA> ok
[10:53] <ilba7r> cga i am not sure not an amarok fan do not use it
[10:54] <CGA> ilba7r: neither am i but i'm trying out kubuntu since i will install it to a n00b friend
[10:54] <CGA> so i wanna use the default applications for him
[10:55] <thegladiator> CGA, why dont you install the necessary things as given in the site and then try xmms first ?
[10:55] <CGA> BTW closing amarok and trying to play file with it doesn't work
[10:56] <ilba7r> do you have wincodec cga
[10:56] <CGA> thegladiator: well as i said b4 i wanna give hime a working system with default apps && one should be able to do that without installing other applications , do you understand what i mean?
[10:56] <thegladiator> yes
[10:56] <thegladiator> CGA, do whats the engine for ur amarok ?
[10:56] <CGA> ilba7r: i don't think so, i still have to finish that restricted formats wiki
[10:57] <ilba7r> CGA, after you finish it you can then test amarok it might be the format of the file you are trying to play
[10:57] <CGA> thegladiator: uhm.. not sure about that, what is the default engine?
[10:57] <CGA> ilba7r: sure thing
[10:58] <thegladiator> go to setting -> configure amarok ->engine and tell me the engine name . but afte you do the necessary installation as said in RF page
[10:59] <thegladiator> CGA have you installed alsa ?
[11:00] <CGA> thegladiator: engine is gstreamer && alsa should be installed by default...
[11:00] <CGA> otherwise you couldn't call ubuntu "linux for human beings"...
[11:00] <CGA> BTW now it works.... i was missing akode-mpeg
[11:00] <thegladiator> theree you go
[11:00] <CGA> as stated in the wiki fro RF
[11:00] <thegladiator> good
[11:01] <CGA> yep
[11:01] <thegladiator> brb
[11:03] <dad> Hi I'm looking for some help pls
[11:04] <CGA> dad: what's all about?
[11:05] <dad> Im trying to forward ports in kubuntu and I'm new to linux
[11:05] <CGA> dad: sorry i'm not iptables expert i can't help you
[11:06] <dad> well thanks anyway
[11:07] <ilba7r> dad install firefox
[11:07] <ilba7r> it is a frontend for iptables
[11:07] <ilba7r> user friendly too
[11:07] <dad> yes I've done that ilba
[11:08] <CGA> ilba7r: firefox? you mean firestarter?
[11:08] <ilba7r> so you just need to add a rule that the port is open. by the way by default all ports are open on ubuntu till you install firestarter
[11:08] <ilba7r> CGA, sorry lack of sleep
[11:08] <CGA> eh eh
[11:08] <dad> I use p2p called azureus
[11:08] <CGA> your apologize goes to dad anyway... :P
[11:09] <ilba7r> if you id not close the ports they are open dad
[11:09] <dad> and its receiving no incoming connections
[11:09] <CGA> dad:  are you behind a NAT or something?
[11:09] <ilba7r> dad than install the front end firestarter and open the ports. if you have a router you need to forward the ports there
[11:10] <dad> i am thinking its a firewall problem
[11:10] <dad> yeah I have a router that is all configured ok because I HAVE A DUAL BOOT SYSTEM and azureus runs great on winxp
[11:11] <CGA> ok DON'T SREAM please
[11:11] <CGA> *scream
[11:11] <dad> sorry i accidentally pressed caps lock
[11:11] <ilba7r> dad i am sure than you use the same ip address for the linux box as the window box
[11:11] <callie> dad: i had the same problem, you'll need to port forward for it to work under linux
[11:12] <dad> yes callie thats why I am here
[11:12] <callie> ok, well. what kind of router do you have?
[11:12] <dad> netgear dg???
[11:12] <ilba7r> dad i run an ftp server here and port forward is a router work
[11:12] <thegladiator> how can I change the kde login screen ? i can chnage the background etc. but not the real screen where you enter your password ?
[11:12] <ilba7r> so long the ports are opened on your linux box
[11:13] <dad> ilba how do I get firestarter
[11:13] <ilba7r> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[11:13] <dad> is it in adept
[11:13] <ilba7r> sure
[11:13] <thegladiator> can someone enlighten me on edititng the login screen in kde ?
[11:13] <dad> ok thanks
[11:13] <thegladiator> i opened login mananer
[11:13] <dad> callie any thoughts ?
[11:14] <ilba7r> thegladiator i really do not understand what you want to do
[11:14] <callie> dad: all i know is that forwarded a port to my linux box ip and told azurus to look at that port range
[11:14] <ilba7r> if you need a new theme you can go to kde-look.org
[11:15] <ilba7r> thegladiator, you can search through the package manager too for kdm themes
[11:15] <thegladiator> you see a starting screen where you enter ur user/pass when you boot into linux no ?
[11:15] <dad> am I correct in thinking firestarter is the (k)ubuntu firewall application ?
[11:15] <thegladiator> that bluish screen ?
[11:16] <thegladiator> ilba7r, i need to change that to something else
[11:16] <ilba7r> dad, it is a frontend to iptabs the firewall of linux
[11:16] <thegladiator> ilba7r, get me?
[11:17] <ilba7r> thegladiator, that is tedious work i just went looked for a theme i like than installed it
[11:17] <dad> thank you for your help  everyone
[11:17] <thegladiator> then give me the theme :)
[11:17] <ilba7r> i sent you a link to pick what you want thegladiator
[11:18] <ilba7r> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=18160
[11:18] <callie> and people wonder why i smoke
[11:18] <thegladiator> thanks let me see that
[11:18] <thegladiator> ilba7r, you install that via kcontrol aint it ?
[11:19] <thegladiator> the system settings-appearnace doesnt help with theme installation ?
[11:19] <ilba7r> thegladiator http://www.kde-look.org/ and search for kdm theme. each theme will tell you how to install
[11:19] <thegladiator> ok
[11:19] <CGA> ok guys, i'm off && thx ilba7r and thegladiator for the help =)
[11:19] <thegladiator> pleasure CGA
[11:20] <ilba7r> thegladiator, did you try kynaptic searching for kdm themes or login themes
[11:22] <thegladiator> yep i am right there
[11:22] <dad> ilba konsole is saying it couldn't find package firestarter
[11:22] <ilba7r> !repos
[11:22] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:22] <ilba7r> dad try adding the extra reposi
[11:23] <dad> ilba a bit simpler please
[11:23] <ilba7r> dad, ubotu gave you a link to enable the extra repositories. they are ftp sites for more packages you can install
[11:24] <ilba7r> so read e http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and use breezy repos
[11:25] <callie> gah, this is doing my head in
[11:25] <callie> ilba7r: i take it you're pretty up on networking and the likes?
[11:26] <ilba7r> callie i used to play a little bit till i was bored and let it go after a while
[11:26] <ilba7r> so am not a guru but might help
[11:27] <callie> ok, well im trying to setup a connection between this box and my xbox, i have second NIC installed and a crossover cable connected
[11:27] <callie> i've assigned a manual ip to the xbox and given it the gateway ip of my second NIC
[11:27] <ilba7r> callie, never was a gaming person so won't be able to help
[11:28] <callie> ilba7r: just trying to ping the xbox at the moment, im not worried about gaming yet
[11:28] <ilba7r> callie,  try in ubuntu room /join #ubuntu
[11:28] <ilba7r> ok
[11:29] <callie> ok, thanks anyhow
[11:30] <ilba7r> hoped i was of more help
[11:30] <dad> no ilba I am new to linux. i'm using kde and I have adept and not synaptec
[11:31] <s_spiff> hey, I'm a ubuntu user, about to install KDE again [ this is my second shot at it ]
[11:32] <s_spiff>  last time, in the app. menu, all the GNOME app's were also displayed
[11:32] <ilba7r> dad the procedure is the same for ubuntu and kubuntu. instead of synaptic use kynaptic or adept
[11:32] <s_spiff>  I do not want that to happen, what should I do?
[11:32] <dad> Ive found shorewall which is saying its a firewall
[11:33] <ilba7r> dad i do not know about shorewall i tried to find the simples most user friendly. There are a multitude of them
[11:34] <ilba7r> now am really getting sleepy so take care all
[11:43] <blackflag> can someone tell me how I can tranfer a directory via ftp-command?
[11:43] <blackflag> put dont work
[11:44] <blackflag> I get an "not a plain file."
[11:51] <knubbe> blackflag: with the built in ftp-client?
[11:51] <knubbe> blackflag: im not sure thats possible, if mput doesnt work
[12:07] <_ali> sallam
[12:08] <_ali> hi andred
[12:08] <_ali> how do you do?
[12:08] <_ali> can you read me?
[12:08] <thegladiator> whats kubuntu's default theme ?
[12:09] <thegladiator> how do I change to kubuntu's default ?
[12:09] <thegladiator> in theme-manager i changed a few things and messed up
[12:14] <kessler> Anyone know a good guide to install nvidia drivers? The last one i used messed up my system bigtime =|. It seems like i can't use the method i used to use in debian, since i haven't compiled the kernel myself (the nvidia installer calls for nvidia.ko)
[12:14] <pinucset> thegladiator plastik, in kcontrol
[12:14] <Hobbsee> !+nvidia
[12:14] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:17] <thegladiator> icons in my dektop became small
[12:17] <thegladiator> actually
[12:17] <thegladiator> hwo can i correct it and the the spacing between icons is also large
[12:19] <thegladiator> how do I adjust the distance between icons in dektop and increase the icon size ?
[12:20] <thegladiator> how do I increase the size , the rest can be handled
[12:21] <thegladiator> gues it is a siple thing
[12:21] <thegladiator> does anyont know ?
[12:25] <Hobbsee> i think the icon size is set somewhere in system settings - try the icons tab
[12:25] <Tudor_b> does anybody get freezes?
[12:25] <Tudor_b> in kubuntu?
[12:25] <Tudor_b> how do you solve them?
[12:26] <jpatrick> hey Hobbsee
[12:26] <Hobbsee> hey jpatrick :)
[12:26] <fridge> thegladiator: System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons -> Advanced
[12:29] <pinucset> one thing, in konqueror when i do f5 it puts a black horrible cursor, how can i do that it doesnt changes?
[12:31] <Hobbsee> pinucset: not seeing that happen here, in kde3.5
[12:31] <Hobbsee> so i'm not sure
[12:32] <pinucset> Hobbsee okay...
[12:32] <Hobbsee> in dapper kde3.5 that is...
[12:33] <Hobbsee> someone with breezy might check it for you
[12:33] <apokryphos> pinucset: that's down to your KDE icon theme
[12:33] <apokryphos> it's just the "loading", since F5 is refresh.
[12:39] <thegladiator> how can i enable the shystem sounds ?
[12:39] <pinucset> apokryphos how can i solve this?
[12:40] <thegladiator> in system setting -?sounds .system sound and networked sounds has been marked with a cross...
[12:40] <thegladiator> that means its checked ?
[12:46] <kessler> Hmm, kde doesnt seem very stable out-of-the-box
[12:47] <ninnghizidha> i cant change me music-volume witht he volumeup and -down keys ... a Onscreendisplay comes up, but the volume doenst change with it.
[12:47] <kessler> Is apt-get update/upgrade enough to fix the instability?
[12:47] <thegladiator> kessler on kubuntu or ubuntu with kde installed ?
[12:48] <kessler> kubunto and the kde that comes with breeze
[12:50] <thegladiator> it generally is stable . but yes do upgradation use update manager
[12:50] <kessler> I use the default "nv" drivers as well, havent installed nvidia drivers yet. Perhaps this could fix the problem?
[12:50] <kessler> Doesn't seem very stable to me. Think it has run for 30 mins max without crashing
[12:51] <thegladiator> kessler : do a memtest86 check to ensure it is not a RAM poblem
[12:52] <thegladiator> kessler, yes try out nvidia first!
[12:52] <thegladiator> !+nvidia
[12:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:57] <thegladiator> just a casual doubt , when I creat a link to my hdd's in the dektop , an emblem comes up in the ICON showing that it is a Link . can I remove that ?
[12:57] <ninnghizidha> how can i change gdm for kdm?
[12:58] <jpatrick> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[12:58] <thegladiator> ninnghizidha, simple
[12:58] <ninnghizidha> thanks a lot :-)
[12:58] <ninnghizidha> that was what i was searching for
[12:58] <thegladiator> which one are u going to set to ?
[01:00] <ninnghizidha> kdm.
[01:01] <ninnghizidha> gdm is only for one display, but kdm expands to both monitors
[01:06] <thegladiator> how can I remove the "emblem" that shows a folder is a link ?
[01:06] <thegladiator> in the desktop ?
[01:06] <thegladiator> gnome does that easily . i can click on properties
[01:07] <kessler> ffs, it keeps on crashing
[01:07] <kessler> Anyone have an idea how to fix it? Should i get an other version of kde than the one that comes with kubunto breeze?
[01:08] <thegladiator> kubuntu breeze is new AFAIK
[01:08] <thegladiator> version is 3.4.3 ?
[01:08] <kessler> how to check?
[01:08] <thegladiator> open somethin like control
[01:08] <thegladiator> kcontrol
[01:08] <thegladiator> for eg.
[01:08] <kessler> 3.4.3 yes
[01:08] <thegladiator> then it is stable
[01:09] <thegladiator> ffs = ?
[01:09] <thegladiator> !ffs
[01:09] <ubotu> thegladiator: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:09] <kessler> ffs = for fucks sake
[01:09] <thegladiator> whoops k
[01:09] <kessler> =)
[01:09] <kessler> But uhm
[01:09] <thegladiator> crashin like what kessler?
[01:09] <thegladiator> could you explain ?
[01:10] <kessler> Well, if i for example opens the kde menu (What in windows is "start"), the colours screw up really bad, and the system locks up few seconds later. At that point i cannot shutdown x, or even change to another terminal. Only fix i've found so far, is reboot =/
[01:11] <thegladiator> it must be a graphics problem then ?
[01:11] <kessler> I guess. Thats why i thought it might be kde that was unstable
[01:12] <thegladiator> kde is not unstable , atleast not that version
[01:12] <thegladiator> 3.4.3 is almost bleeding edge
[01:13] <kessler> Then what could it be? The gfx card have been testet throughly in windows without any problems so i doubt it could be a hardware error causing this
[01:14] <thegladiator> kessler, whats ur graphics card ?
[01:14] <thegladiator> did you try installaing nvidia ?
[01:14] <kessler> club3d gforce 6600gt
[01:14] <thegladiator> kubuntu i guess shud have taken it
[01:14] <thegladiator> so that couldnt be the issue
[01:14] <thegladiator> RAM ?
[01:16] <kessler> Sorry, you were saying?
[01:16] <kessler> it just crashed on me again, but this time i was able to keep it going with ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:16] <thegladiator> ur RAM is 256 or greater ?
[01:17] <kessler> RAM? Well, it could be, but i doubt it. Tested both the ram and cpu with memtest and cpuburn with zero errors
[01:17] <kessler> yes, 1024mb
[01:17] <thegladiator> kessler, thats great .
[01:18] <kessler> well, thats how you look at it. It's unstable as **** :P
[01:18] <C-O-L-T> who has installed ww2d program like google earth?????????????
[01:18] <thegladiator> kessler, i cant understand the problem here actually . if is kubunyu install kde musnt crash like the way it does for you .
[01:18] <thegladiator> kessler, why dont try Gnome and see if its the instability problem with kde ?
[01:19] <thegladiator> kessler, try installing ubuntu-desktop package from repos ?
[01:19] <kessler> I think might be the nvidia driver. The colors are the same as i've seen them when a driver is not installed correctly. Is this possible?
[01:20] <kessler> but i'll try installing those
[01:20] <thegladiator> first try installing nvidia driver
[01:20] <thegladiator> !+nvidia
[01:20] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:20] <C-O-L-T> who has installed ww2d program like google earth?????????????
[01:20] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, a.k.a spam bomb . wait till you get a reply
[01:21] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, i havent installed nyways
[01:21] <kessler> thegladiator: i'm having trouble with the first 7 steps
[01:21] <Tm_T> C-O-L-T: use one questionmark and don't repeat all the time
[01:22] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: Yesterday I found this program and I am really interested in it. But I am a new user and I can not make the install http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction
[01:22] <apokryphos> pinucset: change your mouse theme, of course 8)
[01:22] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: help me if you can
[01:22] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, i gave u a suggestion . the program is interesting . so ask in #ubuntu and dont spam since they are less tolerant than #kubuntu
[01:23] <thegladiator> thats called meta-help , help hidden in help :p
[01:23] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: nobody wants to help me, at #ubuntu, they are not helpful at all
[01:24] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: When I post my question nobody answers to it, that is why I am spamming
[01:25] <thegladiator> i know its tuf , but even spamming hardly helps . just wait or try out in other channels as well
[01:26] <thegladiator> how do enable the sound in KDE ? the system sounds ?
[01:26] <apokryphos> C-O-L-T: no, that doesn't justify spamming.
[01:26] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: you've been warned about spamming before.  if no one replies, either no one is awake, or no one knows the answer to the question
[01:26] <Hobbsee> thegladiator: sound section of system settings
[01:26] <Tm_T> actually spamming is main reason why I don't help... ;--P
[01:26] <thegladiator> i went to System Settings ->  Sounds
[01:26] <CGA> hi all
[01:26] <thegladiator> but the problem is it is still not working .
[01:26] <C-O-L-T> I understand everything. But then what to do
[01:27] <Tm_T> C-O-L-T: http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Download
[01:27] <thegladiator> the options are system sounds which has been marked with a X and also the networked sound option whioch has ben marked with X
[01:27] <Tm_T> read it
[01:27] <Tm_T> C-O-L-T: and ask specified questions
[01:27] <thegladiator> still the sounds doesnt seem to work
[01:27] <C-O-L-T> Tm_T: I know. I have followed the instructions, but I can not install jar files
[01:27] <Tm_T> install jar...
[01:27] <C-O-L-T> Tm_T: I have installed Java Runtime Enviroment
[01:27] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, have you installed sun' s java ?
[01:28] <Tm_T> C-O-L-T: you install it by running it
[01:28] <C-O-L-T> I've got the deb files from seveas repository
[01:28] <ninnghizidha> how can i turn of the use of the documents-folder?
[01:28] <thegladiator> Hobbsee, whats the problem any ideas ?
[01:29] <St0n3-C0l>  I want to run both gnome and kde on the same box and....I updated my repos to dapper and did kubuntu-desktop it gave one condition " To remove all gnome apps and install kde apps " Any Help ??
[01:29] <C-O-L-T> Tm_T: I have installed Java from seveas repository the deb one, but still  i can not run the jar file
[01:29] <Hobbsee> thegladiator: try going to system notifications tab, player settings
[01:29] <Hobbsee> make sure it's set to "use teh KDE sound system"
[01:30] <Hobbsee> *the
[01:30] <Tm_T> I give up... doesn't give anything
[01:31] <thegladiator> Hobbsee, how do I make sure it syses de sound system ?
[01:31] <Hobbsee> tick the box :P
[01:31] <thegladiator> kde start/exit cant be previews it seems
[01:31] <thegladiator> sounds i mean
[01:32] <thegladiator> yep I saw that one
[01:32] <thegladiator> now lwt me restart the X and see
[01:32] <thegladiator> brb
[01:33] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: As I see Tm_T went away, I have installed Java from seveas repository given to me by ubotu. But I still can not run the jar file
[01:33] <thegladiator> yeah weird opening sound :)
[01:37] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: :(
[01:38] <Silfar> I'm need help for install printer HP Laserjet 1022
[01:38] <Hobbsee> !printer
[01:38] <ubotu> methinks printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[01:46] <visik7> why sudo doesn't remember my password in the same terminal ?
[01:46] <visik7> Imean
[01:46] <Huffalump> Is this the appropriate place to ask a question or two regarding my attempts at using the Kubuntu live cd?
[01:46] <visik7> if I do sudo something
[01:46] <visik7> and then another sudo command ok
[01:46] <apokryphos> visik7: it does, but only for  15 mins
[01:47] <apokryphos> Huffalump: sure
[01:47] <visik7> apokryphos: ok how to remove 15min timeout ?
[01:47] <apokryphos> visik7: man sudo
[01:48] <apokryphos> visik7: or man sudoers, more specifically.
[01:49] <Huffalump> I used the Ubuntu 32-bit live cd on a laptop and desktop; very nice.  Now, I am trying Kubuntu 64-bit on my amd64 box... and I am trying to adjust the network settings so I can configure my wifi card.  This window currently grays out my nic listings (present but grayed) and there is a notice that I must click "Administrator Mode" to allow modifications.  Now, the window is larger than the screen!  And I cannot resize the window, apparently.  After a couple
[01:50] <apokryphos> Huffalump: use ctrl+right-mouse-button to move the window
[01:50] <visik7> apokryphos: if I put a NOPASSWORD in sudoers ksu still ask me for a pwd ?
[01:50] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:51] <Huffalump> I don't seem to understand.
[01:51] <apokryphos> visik7: that's not just how you'd do it. Also, please please don't muck around with the sudoers if you're not sure. You can get into a lot of problems :P
[01:51] <Huffalump> When I ctrl+right click... I get options to move the Toolbar portion of the window
[01:51] <apokryphos> (i.e. muck up your sudoers -- no more sudo for you 8))
[01:51] <apokryphos> Huffalump: sorry, left-mouse-button
[01:51] <apokryphos> visik7: put this in:
[01:52] <Huffalump> Ah, I tried this and it allows me to move up, down, left, and right.
[01:52] <Huffalump> However, It never allows me to resize the window so I can see the whole bloody thing.
[01:52] <apokryphos> visik7: username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[01:52] <Huffalump> Also, I tried resizing from the corners and that is not working.
[01:52] <visik7> apokryphos: in sarge if I put nopassword in sudoers  sudo command works without asking me any password
[01:52] <visik7> but
[01:52] <apokryphos> visik7: note that (i) that is insecure, and (ii) replace "username" with your username.
[01:52] <visik7> do ksu do the same ?
[01:52] <apokryphos> ksu?
[01:52] <visik7> sorry
[01:53] <visik7> kdesu
[01:53] <apokryphos> do you mean kdesu?
[01:53] <apokryphos> yes, it will.
[01:53] <visik7> oh ok
[01:53] <visik7> thanks
[01:53] <visik7> yes I know that it's insecure
[01:53] <apokryphos> Huffalump: if you can move tehw indow then surely you can move it to have that button visible, no?
[01:53] <Huffalump> I also tried resizing the desktop (1024x768 seems to be max under Kubuntu) and yet, the Network Settings is *still* larger than the whole screen.
[01:53] <Huffalump> I am not sure how to describe it to you, but no.
[01:53] <apokryphos> Huffalump: what monitor do you have?
[01:53] <Huffalump> I can move the window down... so its almost all offscreen...
[01:54] <Huffalump> But, I cannot move it, for example, above the screen ...
[01:54] <visik7> I don't gat the problem of network settings window larger than the scree
[01:54] <apokryphos> Huffalump: why ever not?
[01:54] <visik7> (1024x768
[01:54] <Huffalump> I dont know.
[01:54] <Huffalump> It is an LCD
[01:54] <apokryphos> Huffalump: ok, just alt+f2 -> kdesu systemsettings
[01:54] <visik7> Huffalump: try to move the window using alt and left mouse button
[01:54] <CGA> !help
[01:54] <kinfo> Available commands: !help, !uptime, !netuse, ??, !!, !cs, !whoset, !learn, !relearn, !forget, !topten, !status
[01:54] <apokryphos> kinfo: you again!
[01:55] <apokryphos> hm
[01:55] <Huffalump> hmmm
[01:55] <Huffalump> let me restate
[01:55] <Huffalump> I can move the window left
[01:55] <Huffalump> I can move the window right
[01:55] <Huffalump> I can move the window down
[01:55] <Huffalump> I cannot move it up
[01:55] <Huffalump> in order to find the buttons at the bottom
[01:55] <apokryphos> Huffalump: please stop flooding
[01:56] <Huffalump> Furthermore, I cannot resize the windows in order to find the buttons.    (ok, re flooding)
[01:58] <apokryphos> Huffalump: I really doubt that, if you followed what me or visik7 said, but anyway -- try the last thing I said.
[01:58] <Huffalump> Trust me, the window is ganked.  However, your little line command DID work for me.  And now I have access to configure, but seem to have a new problem...
[02:00] <visik7> Huffalump: using alt+left-mouse-button you can click in every point of the window even the lowest so you can drag the window up
[02:00] <Huffalump> I can select either ath0 or eth0.  In my case, I want to use ath0, so I select it and click "Configure Interface" and then set it to DHCP.  I click okay.  I reselect ath0 from the main Network Settings menu, right click, select Enable Interace... a little progress window pops up to say its enabling it.  Great!  And I see the green checkmark for about 1 second... and then it revers to the red X.  Any pointers where I might go to solve that?
[02:01] <Huffalump> Ah, ALT+left does work.  Thank you.  (Ctrl did not, perhaps I misread.)
[02:04] <kessler> Hmm, i tried installing nvidia drivers using the guide from !nvidia. But when i use "nvidia" in xorg.conf the screen just turns black. If i change it to "nv", it works like a charm (except 3d and stability though)
[02:04] <manveru> kessler, since when is nv not stable?
[02:05] <kessler> manveru: i can't tell if it's nv that is not stable, but something definately isnt. So i'm just trying different things to make it more stable. Besides, i need the nvidia driver anyway for 3d.
[02:06] <kessler> I use a lcd monitor connected through DVI input. Anything i have to change/do in order to make that work with the nvidia driver?
[02:06] <amigrave> how can I disable automount for usb drives and autostart of kscd when inserting an audiocd ?
[02:07] <visik7> kessler:  check if the module is loaded
[02:07] <visik7> amigrave: in kcontrol
[02:08] <visik7> amigrave: under device->storage device -> advanced
[02:08] <amigrave> visik7: ok, I thought kcontrol was useless since it was removed from the menu. Thanks
[02:08] <visik7> maybe someone should put this in the wiki
[02:08] <kessler> visik7: can i get a hint on how to do that? dmesg | grep what?
[02:08] <visik7> amigrave: alt+f2 kcontrol
[02:09] <visik7> btw in the menu there is storage device somewhere
[02:10] <visik7> kessler:  lsmod
[02:10] <Huffalump> Is it a limitation of using a Kubuntu-64 Live CD to not be able to configure the wifi card?  (I did not have that limitation using Ubuntu-32 on a different machine, but perhaps this live cd works differently...)
[02:12] <amigrave> visik7: the device root node is only kde 3.5 ? Can't find it
[02:13] <visik7> amigrave: dunno I'm using 3.5 never use  3.0 < kde < 3.5
[02:13] <dsbonzo> How does one go about configuring a wireless lan device that has appropriate modules loaded, and an entry /etc/network/interfaces, but gives "unknown interface" responses to ifup?
[02:14] <kessler> visik7: i can find both nvidia, nvidia_agp and agpgart in lsmod
[02:14] <visik7> kessler: good news
[02:14] <amigrave> visik7: is there a stable repository for kde3.5 for breezy ?
[02:14] <visik7> amigrave: sure
[02:14] <joshisscifi> dsbonzo: what does iwconfig tell you?
[02:15] <visik7> amigrave: add this deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main to your soruces.list
[02:15] <dsbonzo> spits out lo, eth0 and wlan0 and says "no wireless extensions" for each one.
[02:15] <amigrave> visik7: thanks
[02:15] <joshisscifi> dsbonzo: even for wlan0?
[02:15] <kessler> visik7: yes, i guess that means the driver is installed correctly? Now i just have to figure out why i cannot get an image on my screen when using "nvidia" over "nv"
[02:15] <dsbonzo> yes sir
[02:16] <amigrave> visik7: I guess I'll have problems if I'm using kde packages in universe or multiverse !?
[02:16] <visik7> kessler: check /var/log/xorg.log or something like that
[02:16] <visik7> amigrave: sorry ?
[02:16] <joshisscifi> dsbonzo: which wireless card are you using?
[02:17] <dsbonzo> joshisscifi: hawking hi-gain usb wireless interface (prism2 chipset)
[02:17] <hawking> ?
[02:17] <amigrave> visik7: If I'm using a kde program that is in multiverse, will it work if I upgrade to kde 3.5 ?
[02:17] <visik7> probably
[02:17] <visik7> tell me one
[02:17] <thegladiator> can someone help me in installing kde 3.5 ?
[02:17] <joshisscifi> dsbonzo: I'd check the ubuntu forums
[02:17] <visik7> and maybe I can check
[02:18] <Tm_T> thegladiator: what about it?
[02:18] <hawking> kde 3.5 is not so stable I guess :&
[02:18] <visik7> thegladiator: got the repository and do an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[02:18] <Tm_T> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[02:18] <visik7> hawking: really not :)
[02:18] <thegladiator> visik7, kde 3.5 is in the repo's ?
[02:18] <thegladiator> spirit is that you ?
[02:18] <kessler> visik7: i'm sorry to bother you again, but i searched for xorg.log but i could not locate it
[02:18] <visik7> thegladiator: in a separate repo
[02:18] <thegladiator> hawking=spirit ? :p
[02:19] <hawking> visik7 : is there a way to get back to my older kde version?
[02:19] <thegladiator> visik7, which repo ?
[02:19] <visik7> kessler: do u have this file ? /var/log/Xorg.0.log ???????
[02:19] <hawking> thegladiator ;)
[02:19] <visik7> hawking: using pin and some voodoo ritual yes
[02:19] <thegladiator> i got this suggestion from #ubuntu
[02:19] <thegladiator> thegladiator: add the url to your sources.list to get kde 3.5
[02:19] <visik7> thegladiator: check the log
[02:20] <hawking> visik7 : or just reinstall whole system which is not a problem with 100mbps internet :p
[02:20] <kessler> visik7: lol, sorry. Embarrasing that i missed that one. Used all the search functions i know, but failed to do a simple "ls" =(
[02:20] <visik7> hawking: as you want
[02:20] <visik7> kessler: np
[02:21] <thegladiator> visik7,  http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35
[02:21] <thegladiator> how can I download the deb?
[02:21] <thegladiator>  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main ?
[02:22] <thegladiator> would do it ?
[02:22] <visik7> the one that I paste 10 minutes ago ?
[02:22] <visik7> yes
[02:23] <thegladiator> where sources.list?
[02:23] <thegladiator> is*
[02:23] <visik7> thegladiator: maybe you should rtfm more
[02:23] <thegladiator> !sources
[02:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:24] <amigrave> visik7: ksubtitleripper
[02:24] <ProtectYaNeck> whenever I click enable to enable my internet connection on the live cd the green check will appear for a second then turn back into a red x
[02:24] <visik7> amigrave: yes it will work
[02:25] <ProtectYaNeck> any ideas?
[02:25] <kessler> Think we're getting somewhere now. It says something about hsync being out of range, even though i used the settings printed in the manual. What are the default hsync/vsync settings for a 19" lcd monitor?
[02:25] <amigrave> visik7: is kde3.5 worth it in comparison to 3.4 ?
[02:25] <Huffalump> ProtectYaNeck, I have the EXACT same problem.
[02:26] <ProtectYaNeck> no kidding
[02:26] <ProtectYaNeck> what kind of network card are you trying to enable?
[02:26] <alejandro> !w32codecs
[02:26] <Huffalump> atheros on Kubuntu-64
[02:26] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:26] <Huffalump> Previously, I got it to work... on Ubuntu-32
[02:27] <ProtectYaNeck> hmm, maybe I should try a ubuntu live cd and see if the problem is present
[02:27] <Huffalump> I am holding out for an answer =]
[02:27] <visik7> amigrave: .0 of kde should not be installed from the faint of heart
[02:27] <visik7> s/from/by
[02:27] <visik7> oh my english sucks :(
[02:27] <Huffalump> looks fine to me, visik7
[02:28] <visik7> Huffalump: not to me :)
[02:28] <visik7> by the way ... if someone want to try kde 3.5 I suggest to wait the 20 of jan when 3.5.1 will come out
[02:29] <thegladiator> is it possible to open file manager in super user mode other than from the shell using sudo ?
[02:29] <ProtectYaNeck> Huffalump, how long have you been having this problem?
[02:29] <thegladiator> fc4 has file manager superUser
[02:29] <Huffalump> Just today; I got Kubuntu-64 loaded in the last hour or less...
[02:30] <visik7> the_nino: kdesu command
[02:30] <visik7> ops
[02:30] <visik7> thegladiator: kdesu command
[02:30] <visik7> thegladiator: alt+f2 kdesu command
[02:30] <joshisscifi> bbial
[02:30] <ProtectYaNeck> well I'm gonna stick around too then, drop me a line if you get an answer
[02:31] <Huffalump> can do
[02:31] <Huffalump> I saw another guy on #ubuntu with a similar problem, but no answer
[02:31] <thegladiator> kdesu is not there in my sys ?
[02:31] <thegladiator> when i run that nothing comes up
[02:32] <thegladiator> Qt: Locales not supported on X server
[02:32] <thegladiator> kdesu: No command specified.
[02:32] <thegladiator> kdesu: Use --help to get a list of available command line options.
[02:32] <ProtectYaNeck> I'd like to have that resolved before I actually format and install
[02:33] <Huffalump> Yes, I would not like to install something which appears not to work!  Heh.