[12:16] <matthew_> local, try sudo apt-get install -reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[12:16] <matthew_> local, or maybe gdm
[12:16] <local> ok
[12:16] <towync> in process of finding wacom =) one sec
[12:16] <natic`kubuntu> hi guys...
[12:16] <matthew_> towync, ok...
[12:16] <matthew_> natic`kubuntu, what's up?
[12:16] <natic`kubuntu> hm... i am wondering what beryl is, and if thats what i want
[12:16] <natic`kubuntu> :
[12:17] <natic`kubuntu> i only know this xgl thing
[12:17] <matthew_> !beryl | natic`kubuntu
[12:17] <ubotu> natic`kubuntu: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:17] <natic`kubuntu> yeah....
[12:17] <natic`kubuntu> i am reading
[12:19] <Ace2016> chmod 777 allows everyone to write to a file right?
[12:19] <natic`kubuntu> yep
[12:19] <matthew_> Ace2016, chmod 777 allows everyone to execute, write, and read the file
[12:20] <Ace2016> thanks
[12:20] <londo4> Anyone Can Help me?. myn kubuntu start only until logon srceen when I hit the password it come back to logon screen
[12:23] <towycn> matthew hi, i just pasted it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37831/
[12:23] <londo4> I can't login to Kubuntu with my own username & correct password. I've tried many times, but not successful. Please help me.
[12:23] <fenerbahche> hi i have vmware under /var.  i am gonna create new partition and i will mount /home to the new partitions, i have already two guest os in vmware, what happens if i cut vmware and paste to the new partitons, will it still work ?
[12:23] <towycn> oops, was it matthew_, hi i just pasted it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37831/
[12:23] <fenerbahche> londo4: it is like nightmare
[12:23] <fenerbahche> londo4: i had it too, solved it, but i still dont know how i did it
[12:24] <londo4> fenerbahche: big problem man
[12:24] <murchadh_bhaba> londo4, What does your login screen look like? A terminal (black with white writing) or graphical looking?
[12:24] <londo4> fenerbahche: graphical looking
[12:24] <matthew_> towycn, ok, you need to comment out the Section "InputDevice" sections that relate to wacom input stuff...basically, just what you already commented out, but comment out the whole section.
[12:24] <BluesKaj> well , i tried to run the install.sh script as root for devede27 , but it's not working...I did it successfully on older vers before but i've forgotten what i did
[12:24] <fenerbahche> londo4: there is menu, choose kde again try
[12:25] <londo4> fenerbahche: when I hit the password it return to logo screen again
[12:25] <fenerbahche> londo4: i mean in login screen
[12:25] <towycn> matthew_ ok, one sec =) thx
[12:25] <matthew_> towycn, np
[12:25] <murchadh_bhaba> londo4, Type alt+F1, report back
[12:26] <londo4> fenerbahche: yes login screen
[12:26] <matthew_> towycn, when you get done, paste it to pastebin again and...well, you know
[12:26] <fenerbahche> londo4: in login screen ,  choose menu and choose kde, than try pls
[12:26] <towycn> matthew_  cool, just double checking, should i comment out line 79 all the way to line 117
[12:27] <towycn> the site was at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37831/
[12:27] <matthew_> lemme look
[12:27] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, well , i tried to run the install.sh script as root for devede27 , but it's not working...I did it successfully on older vers before but i've forgotten what i did
[12:27] <towycn> matthew_ thx
[12:27] <londo4> fenerbahche: ok, i`ll try
[12:27] <matthew_> towycn, no prob, but I gotta go do something, be back in 5
[12:28] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, What exactly are you doing, and from where?
[12:29] <towycn> matthew_ cool =)
[12:30] <BluesKaj> murchadh_bhaba, I'm trying to install devede27 in the shell as root ..it says to run the "install.sh" script as root
[12:30] <fenerbahche> londo4: tried ?
[12:31] <towycn> matthew_ k i just did a new paste of the changed xorg.conf, i put it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37834/  for when you get back, thx alot =)
[12:31] <londo4> fenerbahche: i have to shutdown this system
[12:32] <fenerbahche> londo4: ohh i see
[12:32] <schlupp> hi, somebody has second and could provide me some help with a monitor setting?
[12:33] <murchadh_bhaba> BluesKaj, So you are using sudo or you are root?
[12:34] <BluesKaj> i tried both sudo and sudo su , murchadh_bhaba
[12:35] <schlupp> somebody knows why there are differend settings for monitor for different users with the same xorg.conf (one user can use the twinview correctly, the other gets one black monitor after loggin in)
[12:36] <alexicon> !dvd
[12:36] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:36] <matthew_> towycn, I'm still here, but still unavailable
[12:36] <towycn> matthew_ yeah np, take your time, i'm not doing much besides listening to ipod/reading =)
[12:37] <towycn> matthew_ i've pretty much given up on beryl + kxdocker lol i'm just grateful someone might know =)
[12:40] <BluesKaj> how do I run an "install.sh" script as root ?
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> beryl rocks. I've been running it for well, since it was conceived from compiz, and ran compiz before that.
[12:40] <TheDebugger> sudo sh install.sh ?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> TheDebugger, where does the app name go ?
[12:42] <goodthing> i have kubuntu installed, but the media folder where kubuntu should be installed is ehm, empty (no, i am not joking)
[12:43] <goodthing> this appears to be a only a problem with a 750GB hard disk
[12:43] <goodthing> can anyone help me with that?
[12:44] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: define "media folder"... do you mean /media?
[12:44] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: yes
[12:45] <goodthing> i mean /media/sda1 and /media/sda2
[12:45] <goodthing> sda1 should have my /home folder and sda2 the OS
[12:45] <alexicon> anyone know a good program for capturing dvd audio
[12:45] <goodthing> neither of bot are there
[12:45] <goodthing> *both
[12:45] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab ?
[12:46] <goodthing> the only folder in those partitions is "lost+found"
[12:46] <LeeJunFan> !pastebin | goodthing
[12:46] <ubotu> goodthing: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:46] <goodthing> sure
[12:47] <murchadh_bhaba> goodthing, There isn't supposed to nbe anything in /media? Is that what you're saying?
[12:47] <alexicon> !wifi
[12:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:47] <goodthing> murchadh_bhaba: no the other way arround
[12:47] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37837/
[12:48] <goodthing> i have not changed anything is fstab, system is brand new
[12:48] <goodthing> just as the edgy installation
[12:48] <LeeJunFan> goodthing, murchadh_bhaba: he means they show empty on there, they don't seem to be mounted.
[12:49] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: perhaps if you change defaults to defaults,auto  - auto is to automount on boot.
[12:49] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: well, kde shows me at boot that /dev/hda is getting added on /media...
[12:49] <murchadh_bhaba> goodthing, At a shell, type mount and report back on the output.
[12:49] <sungam> Every time I reboot my computer, I have to do a 'sudo rmmod nvidia && sudo modprobe nvidia' to get it to load the latest drivers... any suggestions on how I can get it to load them from the get go?
[12:50] <murchadh_bhaba> goodthing, Should be straightforward enough get you sorted.
[12:50] <goodthing> but shouldn't each partition be dealth as a separate dev/location?
[12:50] <goodthing> hehe, cool :)
[12:51] <bgsteffens> i just woke up to my drive recovery finished
[12:51] <bgsteffens> 41 thousand files without names! lol
[12:51] <murchadh_bhaba> goodthing, LeeJunFan from what he reports, there aren't even mount points/directories there yet.
[12:51] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: you've got 3 paritions, sda2 is your root where your system is actually installed to and that won't show on /media/sda2 because it's mounted at /
[12:51] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37838/
[12:52] <goodthing> yep, /dev/sda2 if for kubuntu, /dev/sda1 for /home
[12:53] <goodthing> and /dev/sda5 for dump other files
[12:53] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: ah, if you want sda1 for home it's not setup that way.
[12:54] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: you'll need to mount sda1 somewhere other than /home, copy what's in home now to sda1, then mount sda1 to home.
[12:54] <misael> how can i install a .bin file (it
[12:54] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: but why is my system running from it, i can even user /home/ with all files there...
[12:55] <mrTr0ut> for some reason when I restarted my pc, kubuntu started in terminal mode instead of KDE, Xserver is running but i try to switch over with ctrl-alt-f7 there's nothing but a black screen - like another terminal
[12:55] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: lets start by getting /dev/sda1 mounted somewhere. try running sudo mkdir /media/sda1 && sudo mount /media/sda1
[12:55] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: because /home is at the moment, on your sda2 drive.
[12:55] <goodthing> i see :)
[12:56] <misael> how can i install a .bin file (it's located at desktop)
[12:56] <misael> its steam linux dedicated server
[12:56] <hazard> misael do you know what the bin file is? like a macbinary compressed file? or a .bin as in .bin/cue?
[12:56] <LeeJunFan> misael: you need to change the permissions on it to make it executable, then run it. best bet is to run it from a shell so open konsole chmod +x [filename]  then ./[filename]
[12:56] <misael> its a .bin
[12:57] <bgsteffens> is there a way to mount a network shared drive into my root filesystem somehwere?
[12:57] <hazard> bgsteffens: yes, with root access or sudo
[12:57] <hazard> (or setup autofs to do it)
[12:57] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: brb
[12:58] <murchadh_bhaba> bgsteffens, I have a /DATA directory on which I mount all my shares.
[12:58] <bgsteffens> would it look something like sudo mount smb://etcetcetc /media/something ?
[12:58] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: mounting /dev/sda1 gives me nothing, same lost+found folder
[12:59] <hazard> I think sudo mount -t smbfs -o [some stuff for username/password I forget what exactly]  //system/share /path/to/mount/folder
[12:59] <Cheza-chan> im having some problems connecting to my home wireless network on edgy. it connected to this same network just fine on dapper
[12:59] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: mounting /dev/sda2 instead gives me the OS, which seems correct
[12:59] <hazard> HOWEVER, i'd setup autofs to do it for you (provided you don't mind having the password in plain text in a config file somewhere)
[01:00] <hazard> *cricket*
[01:00] <mrTr0ut> anyone know? :/
[01:01] <hazard> Oh, mrTrout, your Xserver probably isn't starting on its own.
[01:01] <misael> i stiil need help with the hlsdupdatetool.bin file in my desktop
[01:01] <misael> i dont know how to run it
[01:01] <mrTr0ut> it is started, I started it..i stopped it, restarted it
[01:01] <mrTr0ut> nothing
[01:01] <Cheza-chan> it is a weird problem i can select the wireless and enable it in 'networking' but in network tools and system settings->network settings the wireless isnt there
[01:02] <hazard> huh...maybe xorg unconfigured itself?
[01:02] <Cheza-chan> misael a .bin is a binary file means you can run it as is. you maybe have to chmod +x it first
[01:02] <goodthing> mrTr0ut: might a a bad update from nvidia beta i think. I think i have read something about that on ubuntuforums. So you use nvidia videocard beta?
[01:02] <natic`kubuntu> heyo
[01:02] <natic`kubuntu> howto enable aixgl in edgy???
[01:03] <mrTr0ut> well I recently installed nvidia drivers before the restart, I don
[01:03] <mrTr0ut> I don't think it was beta though
[01:03] <misael> how i do that?
[01:03] <hazard> related to xserver, is it possible to get the tv card function working on a rage128AIW?
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: yeah, the empty one with the lost and found is where you want to copy everything that's in /home to.
[01:03] <hazard> I don't care about the cable tuner, just the on screen display of the TV-in on the card.
[01:03] <Cheza-chan> misael all you have to do is open a console and cd ~/Desktop then chmod +x <filename>
[01:04] <misael> ok in <filename> i write hlsdupdatetool.bin or with out the .bin?
[01:04] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: so sudo cp -va /home/. /media/sda1/. will get your stuff copying over to /dev/sda1 which we will make your new /home when it's done.
[01:04] <Cheza-chan> with the .bin
[01:04] <misael> ok thanks
[01:04] <hazard> if you try it one way, and it yells at you, then its the other.
[01:04] <misael> am going to try
[01:05] <Cheza-chan> the +x flag says 'give this file execute rights'
[01:06] <bgsteffens> sudo mount -t smbfs smb://briansecondary/Recover /media/recover...returns....mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on smb://briansecondary/Recover,
[01:06] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: to be honest, that sounds scary to me :p
[01:06] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: after cp is done copying edit /etc/fstab, change /media/sda1 to /home
[01:07] <hazard> bgsteffens: you don't need the smb: before the //
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: all we are doing at this point is backing up what's in your current /home to your other partition with cp.
[01:07] <goodthing> k
[01:07] <hazard> and you need a -o password=xyz,username=hgj in there somewhere
[01:07] <bgsteffens> i don't know what the un/pw would be o.O
[01:08] <bgsteffens> it's completely unprotected
[01:08] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: changing the fstab entry tells it to mount /dev/sda1 to /home instead of /media/sda1 when it get's remounted.
[01:08] <hazard> bgsteffens: XPHome?
[01:08] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: i know, i am just checking the current mounts so i can not make mistakes
[01:08] <mrTr0ut> ok I reinstalled the nvidia drivers and everything seems to work fine now
[01:08] <bgsteffens> hazard: it's XPPro, shared completely open to anything
[01:08] <hazard> because if it is, sometimes it won't let you connect unless you GIVE it some bogus username/password
[01:08] <snowrichard> hello
[01:09] <bgsteffens> really rofl
[01:09] <hazard> Huh, it might do the same thing, (but I don't think so) the only thing that might be a problem then is that the smb mounter might try to wait for a password or something silly like that
[01:09] <alexicon> hrmmm
[01:10] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: and sda1 already seems mounted on /media/sda1
[01:10] <alexicon> kubuntu seems to have an issue with ! being in wifi passwords........
[01:10] <bgsteffens> hm it's still giving me that useless error message that basically says 'something went wrong but i don't know what it is'
[01:10] <alexicon> iwconfig wlan0 key restricted s:pass!word doesnt work
[01:10] <alexicon> it thinks !word is a new command or something
[01:11] <snowrichard> kubuntu x86_64 works great on my E-machines t3508.
[01:11] <yorikk> ! is a special character in the shell
[01:11] <yorikk> try escaping it
[01:11] <psyoptik> anyone know the status on fixing the kdar package dependencies?
[01:11] <alexicon> thanks yorikk
[01:12] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: yes, it needs to be there until we are done copying the contents of /home to it.
[01:12] <hazard> well, after I've annihilated any hope of me ever getting my old build of mplayer working again, ever support library I've tried to complie so far has failed for obscure reasons.
[01:12] <hazard> Sigh, I hate this game.
[01:12] <murchadh_bhaba> bgsteffens, Check that smbclient is installed.
[01:13] <hazard> smbclinet, and there's something else that helps...not samba...smbmount? something like that I think
[01:13] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: ok, thanks. :) It seems to take some time
[01:13] <alexicon> nice wintick worked cheers
[01:13] <goodthing> althought i have one of the fastest desktop disks currently...
[01:13] <bgsteffens> hazard: smbclient is
[01:14] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: yeah, problem is though that you are copying from and to the same drive so the head is busy tracking between the 2 paritions.
[01:14] <hazard> There's another package though, smbmount or smbfs or something like that
[01:14] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: so 750G eh? how will you ever live with such constraints? :p
[01:15] <LeeJunFan> !smbfs
[01:15] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 900 kB
[01:15] <hazard> yup, that'd be the one I'm thinking of :P
[01:15] <LeeJunFan> you need smbfs to mount samba shares.
[01:15] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: give me two months :p
[01:15] <LeeJunFan> smbclient is sufficient for browsing them, but to actually mount them you need smbfs.
[01:16] <hazard> I hate SDL. There's nothing 'simple' or 'direct' about getting it to work.
[01:16] <hazard> (there are however, many layers of sanity)
[01:16] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: i already have two 300GB disks, but the system does not boot when i put those two on SATA2 and SATA2 ports on motherbord. Two disks seems to be the max
[01:16] <murph> i seem to have edited my xorg.conf and now it boots to a blank screen .. no consoles either :/
[01:17] <murph> help?
[01:17] <goodthing> *SATA2 and SATA3
[01:17] <murph> i'm booted off the install cd atm
[01:17] <lombra_> good night
[01:17] <hazard> maybe one of the drives is setup wrong for the satacontroller?
[01:17] <BluesKaj> murph, no prompt?
[01:17] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: all is done now
[01:17] <murph> rescue option broken as well
[01:17] <murph> it boots then nada
[01:18] <hazard> do you remember what you changed?
[01:18] <murph> yes
[01:18] <murph> but i can't seem to get to the file
[01:18] <hazard> so..why don't you unchange it?
[01:18] <murph> ^
[01:18] <hazard> did you mount the drive?
[01:18] <murph> nope
[01:18] <hazard> that would pose a problem wouldn't it?
[01:18] <murph> not sure how to
[01:19] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: hehe, playing with my dog with the laser pointer to pass time :)
[01:19] <hazard> mkdir /tmp/hda && mount /dev/hda[x]  (where [x]  is the root partiton of your drive, probably either a 1 or a 2, might be a 3 thouh)
[01:19] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: okay, now change /etc/fstab file so /media/sda1 is /home
[01:19] <murph> tnx hazard :)
[01:19] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: yeah, can i do that without umounting the location?
[01:19] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: sudo nano /etc/fstab or kdesu kate /etc/fstab if you prefer a gui.
[01:20] <bgsteffens> hazard: it works, i love you;P
[01:20] <Cheza-chan> so is it a problem if network settings lists wlon0 as a 'wired connection'?
[01:20] <goodthing> nope, vim for me, kate tends to wipe the wipe...
[01:20] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: yes, that won't mount it yet, just tells it that it should be mounted there next time.
[01:20] <Cheza-chan> wlan*
[01:20] <goodthing> *file
[01:20] <goodthing> LeeJunFan:  ok
[01:20] <hazard> good bgsteffens, if you might be interesetd in setting up autofs to do it for you (so you don't need to sudo if you want to use it again)
[01:21] <hazard> Cheza-chan: I woudln't think so...
[01:21] <bgsteffens> hazard: ok thank you
[01:21] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: done. What's next? :)
[01:21] <natic`kubuntu> i can't find the package compiz-kde
[01:21] <natic`kubuntu> i have activated the ubuntu backports
[01:21] <natic`kubuntu> but i still can't find it
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: make sure /media/sda1 looks like your /home - ie. make sure you see your users home dir /media/sda1 and it looks like everything is there okay.
[01:22] <Perseid> Hi all. I'm trying to get grub to boot Windows XP with no success. It says it's an unknown partition, lists the boot commands and locks up.
[01:22] <hazard> windows or grub?
[01:22] <natic`kubuntu> you need a chainloader
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: /media/sda1 should not have a dir named home in it, but should have your username dir in it.
[01:22] <murph> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /tmp/hda && mount /dev/hda3
[01:22] <murph> mount: can't find /dev/hda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> among any other users you've added.
[01:22] <murph>
[01:23] <murph> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /tmp/hda && mount /dev/hda3
[01:23] <murph> mount: can't find /dev/hda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:23] <murph> sorry
[01:23] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: roger, it contains my weird username
[01:23] <hazard> murph....oh right.
[01:23] <Perseid> root (hd1,0) makeactive chainloader +1 are the 3 lines in menu.lst
[01:23] <misael> how do i run a .bin file? what do i write in the konsole?
[01:23] <hazard> try the same thing but without the number at the end
[01:23] <LjL> misael: ./filename - you might need to "chmod +x" it (i.e. make it executable)
[01:23] <Cheza-chan> misael ./<file>
[01:24] <LjL> misael: perhaps you could find a proper package instead of the .bin, though?
[01:24] <hazard> OH, WAIT, no I'm just stupid,
[01:24] <Perseid> hazard: You mean me? chainloader not chainloader +1?
[01:24] <unix_infidel> uhhh, arent .bin .cue pairs images?
[01:24] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: okay, next time you reboot it should mount sda1 as /home. however at the moment your sda2 still has all that crap you just copied, so now that we've verified sda1 has your stuff in it we need to remove it from your current /home
[01:24] <hazard> I was talking to murph
[01:24] <murph> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda
[01:24] <murph> mount: can't find /dev/hda in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:24] <Perseid> ok. heh. :)
[01:24] <LjL> unix_infidel: yeah, can also be that...
[01:24] <natic`kubuntu> misael: bin files are images of cds or dvds
[01:24] <hazard> murph: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$mkdir /tmp/hda && sudo mount /dev/hda3 /tmp/hda
[01:25] <natic`kubuntu> vlc playes them, if it is an image of a video cd, misael
[01:25] <unix_infidel> i've never encountered a .bin file that's a executable binary in nix.
[01:25] <hazard> murph: the 'hda3' there might be 'hda1' or 'hda2' though
[01:25] <murph> hazard: right
[01:25] <LjL> unix_infidel: i assure you there are quite a few
[01:25] <murph> no its 3
[01:25] <BluesKaj> natic`kubuntu, compiz-freedesktop-kde
[01:25] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: i think i have a talent to remove files lying around somewhere, should be no hassle
[01:25] <hazard> oh ok
[01:25] <unix_infidel> actually, i take that back.
[01:25] <hazard> did you actually have the /tmp/hda at the end?
[01:25] <natic`kubuntu> BluesKaj: i'll try
[01:25] <LjL> unix_infidel: at least judging from the number of time the "how do i run a .bin" question is asked
[01:25] <hazard> so it tries to mount it in the right place?
[01:25] <LjL> (and no, they don't usually mean a CD image)
[01:25] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: problem is you are logged into that user at the moment and are using your existing /home files.
[01:25] <unix_infidel> LjL: i've never seen any except for a few choice programs....
[01:25] <natic`kubuntu> there is no such thing
[01:25] <BluesKaj> natic`kubuntu, it's in adept
[01:26] <natic`kubuntu> not in synaptic?
[01:26] <BluesKaj> dunno
[01:26] <LjL> unix_infidel: some games, some video card drivers, and generally quite a few proprietary programs.
[01:26] <BluesKaj> din't check
[01:26] <hazard> murph?
[01:26] <LjL> the .bin's are more often than not installers
[01:26] <murph> mount: /dev/hda already mounted or /tmp/hda busy
[01:26] <unix_infidel> LjL: yea, i've only dealt with the last of the three you mentioned.
[01:27] <hazard> murph: type 'mount' and see what it says
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: I think your easiest way is going to be to cd to /home, and sudo rm -rf *, then reboot. After you rm everything in your /home things will likely get a little wierd, so you may have to issue sudo reboot from the konsole you are in.
[01:27] <BluesKaj> natic`kubuntu, yup try synaptic
[01:27] <hazard> if there's something mounted to /tmp/hda then its mounted already
[01:27] <natic`kubuntu> BluesKaj: it is neither in synaptic nor in adept
[01:27] <natic`kubuntu> how else? they use the same repos
[01:27] <hazard> (though I don't kknow if it would have done so rw, it might be readonly)
[01:27] <natic`kubuntu> kay, then tell me how do i install gnome?
[01:28] <murph> hazard: it's not mounted
[01:28] <hazard> what's telling you that?
[01:28] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: i know it sounds not like linux, but isn't rebooting safer here?
[01:28] <goodthing> just asking
[01:28] <BluesKaj> sorry to hear that , natic`kubuntu, maybe I have a few more repos than most :)
[01:28] <murph> shall i print it here? its like 10 lines
[01:28] <natic`kubuntu> gimme them :) i want to run that xgl thing
[01:29] <natic`kubuntu> using edgy
[01:29] <hazard> people don't like that.
[01:29] <alexicon> dhcp will not work with my wifi, anyone else have this problem
[01:29] <murph> but is not on the list..
[01:29] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: yes, I think you should reboot after you remove the files.
[01:29] <natic`kubuntu> alexicon: hat router?
[01:29] <hazard> what list?
[01:29] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: after, ok, not before
[01:29] <alexicon> route is a linksys, connecting on a vaio sz
[01:29] <BluesKaj> well, it needs to be edited ..there are some dupes , i think , but I'll pastebin it if ya like
[01:30] <alexicon> it works in suse and in windows fine
[01:30] <Cheza-chan> alexicon im having a similar problem though im not sure its dhcp causing my prob
[01:30] <murph> mount
[01:30] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: right, if you do it before you'll be removing everything you just copied, as sda1 will be on /home
[01:30] <natic`kubuntu> linksys should work fine with everything (=
[01:30] <alexicon> the card is all configured and recognised
[01:30] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: I mean - if you do it after. hehe
[01:30] <alexicon> i can see networks
[01:30] <alexicon> but not connect to anything
[01:30] <alexicon> i dont get an ip
[01:30] <natic`kubuntu> hmmm
[01:30] <natic`kubuntu> wifi is always... a little bitchy
[01:30] <Cheza-chan> yes it is. lol
[01:30] <alexicon> ive had great luck with wifi until edgy
[01:31] <alexicon> it worked fine for me in dapper and in all the other distros ive tried on my laptop
[01:31] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: what i can't get is why the installation did not put the files there, as i asked it to so
[01:31] <natic`kubuntu> bitchy with linux... for damn windows all works fine
[01:31] <alexicon> suse is excellent
[01:31] <natic`kubuntu> yep
[01:31] <natic`kubuntu> i like suse myself
[01:31] <natic`kubuntu> :
[01:31] <alexicon> too bad their package management sucks which is why i want to use kubuntu
[01:31] <natic`kubuntu> ever tried smart?
[01:31] <Cheza-chan> i dont get why my computer all of a sudden thinks my wifi card is a wired card. it shows up on ifconfig and not iwconfig
[01:31] <natic`kubuntu> this yum thing is crap
[01:31] <alexicon> yeah i didnt have much luck with it
[01:31] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: I dunno. if you defined sda1 as /home it SHOULD have done just what you wanted. I do it that way all the time.
[01:31] <alexicon> the repositories are crap is the problem
[01:31] <hazard> I don't like GUIs, I usually break them anyway.
[01:31] <alexicon> i like all the little libs that deb has
[01:32] <natic`kubuntu> i must admit, smart is still much slower then adept or synaptic
[01:32] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: so, rm, reboot, should be all good.
[01:32] <natic`kubuntu> ist it because of the deb packages?
[01:32] <alexicon> apt4rpm didnt work well for me
[01:32] <natic`kubuntu> i got smart up and running
[01:32] <alexicon> i need stuff like libnet-irc-ruby, libao-ruby blahblah
[01:32] <natic`kubuntu> but it is too slooooooooooow
[01:32] <alexicon> lots of development stuff
[01:32] <alexicon> its easy to find on kubuntu
[01:32] <alexicon> i cant be arsed with rpms
[01:32] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: ok, let's try, i have a spare computer next to me so be aware i can come back here ;)
[01:33] <alexicon> its so last century :P
[01:33] <natic`kubuntu> yeah, kubuntu gives you the repos
[01:33] <tijoe> alexicon: I have KNetworkManager on mine and it recognises my cards. Don't know if that'll help you
[01:33] <alexicon> my card is recognised already
[01:33] <alexicon> and configured
[01:33] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: thanks for help, doing command in a few
[01:33] <bgsteffens> what is the console command for rename file?
[01:33] <alexicon> i just cant connect :/
[01:33] <alexicon> bgsteffens: mv
[01:33] <bgsteffens> ty
[01:33] <alexicon> you move it to a new filename
[01:33] <robotgeek> bgsteffens: strange, but true :)
[01:33] <alexicon> np
[01:33] <BluesKaj> natic`kubuntu, PM !
[01:33] <natic`kubuntu> BluesKaj: won't work...
[01:33] <murph> hazard: thanks i have it mounted now
[01:33] <natic`kubuntu> try a querry
[01:34] <hazard> welcome
[01:34] <hazard> murph: is it read-write?
[01:34] <natic`kubuntu> but BluesKaj! i want compiz, not beryl
[01:34] <hazard> I don't remember what the default is if you don't specifiy it to be rw or ro
[01:35] <BluesKaj> that's where it is
[01:35] <murph> well i just wim'd the xorg.conf
[01:35] <murph> vim'd
[01:35] <hazard> and it saved?
[01:35] <murph> yup
[01:35] <hazard> guess it was rw then
[01:35] <murph> now to reboot, cross your fingers
[01:35] <hazard> (or its lying)
[01:35] <alexicon> !pastebin
[01:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:35] <hazard> goodluck
[01:35] <murph> thanks:)
[01:36] <alexicon> this is what happens when dhcp tries to connect  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37842/
[01:37] <NamShub> (965 upgraded, 30 newly installed, 3 to remove and 7 not upgraded.)
[01:40] <alexicon> someone was tyring to tell me yesterday that you HAVE to reboot in order to change what wifi network you are on
[01:40] <lbb_> does anyone know the unhide command in grub, there is nobody on #grub
[01:40] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: seems it went well, /media/home/ seems to contain more files than /home/username though
[01:41] <hazard> well, that was stupid, of all the things I've tried to get SDL to build, trying the unstable source wasn't one of them.
[01:41] <goodthing> */media/home/username
[01:41] <natic`kubuntu> alexicon: what does ifstatus eth1 says?
[01:41] <natic`kubuntu> are you sure, you called your wlan "eth1"?
[01:42] <goodthing> 8 files less
[01:42] <natic`kubuntu> alexicon: gimme the output of the "sudo ifstatus eth1"
[01:42] <Cheza-chan> hmm the plot thickens it seems that wlan0 doesnt even have a hwaddress set
[01:42] <natic`kubuntu> alexicon: into pastebin, of course... i am out for a cigarette, be right back
[01:43] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: anything i should do now?
[01:44] <lbb_> does anyone know how to unhide a partition using a kubuntu live-cd?
[01:45] <lbb_> I only know how to do it in grub (that's how I hid it in the first place)
[01:45] <lbb_> but that doesn't work
[01:47] <alexicon> natic`kubuntu: i dont have ifstatus
[01:47] <alexicon> do you know what packages it is from?
[01:47] <lbb_> can anyone read this? I'm new to irc...
[01:48] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: it shouldn't. Actually there shouldn't be a /media/home. heh
[01:48] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: well, there is
[01:48] <coreymon77> hey guys
[01:48] <LeeJunFan> goodthing: I guess, there is on mine after all.
[01:48] <coreymon77> ive managed to convert 2 people in the past 4 days!
[01:48] <BluesKaj> hey coreymon77
[01:49] <murph> :D
[01:49] <natic`kubuntu> theres no ifstatus on edgy?
[01:49] <lbb_> coreymon: DRM??
[01:50] <natic`kubuntu> coreymon77: convert?
[01:50] <coreymon77> to linux
[01:50] <natic`kubuntu> wow
[01:50] <natic`kubuntu> why?
[01:50] <alexicon> natic`kubuntu: dunno, i just dont seem to have it
[01:50] <alexicon> and adept just crashed lol
[01:50] <natic`kubuntu> me too
[01:50] <LeeJunFan> coreymon77: what was their main reasons for their willingness to go linux?
[01:50] <natic`kubuntu> suse has ifstatus
[01:50] <natic`kubuntu> very useful
[01:51] <alexicon> yeah
[01:51] <alexicon> i see a package for ifstat
[01:51] <coreymon77> me giving them cds
[01:51] <coreymon77> and our doxe computers at school being crap
[01:51] <natic`kubuntu> but why do they use it?
[01:51] <natic`kubuntu> why use linux anyway?
[01:51] <Chani> I'm about to attempt a dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy, but I'm a little concerned about the changes apt wants to make. it's saying it'll remove things like kubuntu-desktop and linux-kernel-headers. should I be worried?
[01:51] <natic`kubuntu> Chani: no risk, no fun
[01:52] <alexicon> why use linux? cos youre sick of viruses, worms, adware and spyware and a bloat os that runs too slow
[01:52] <alexicon> ^^
[01:52] <Chani> I've done a backup, of course, but I'd prefer it if I didn't have to use it.
[01:52] <lbb_> coreymon77 People seem very willing to convert if you tell them BG will decide if you can open your files soon
[01:52] <natic`kubuntu> alexicon: my windows runs without viruses, spywares and equal stuff
[01:52] <natic`kubuntu> alexicon: u have to know how to use windows
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> BS
[01:52] <alexicon> true natic`kubuntu
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> yeah, keep it offline.
[01:52] <alexicon> but most people dont really know how
[01:52] <alexicon> lol LeeJunFan
[01:53] <natic`kubuntu> and i am online with it :
[01:53] <alexicon> and for the people who dont know how, linux ubuntu is perfect for htem
[01:53] <alexicon> apart from this bloody wifi hassle
[01:53] <Perseid> I have never had a virus on XP in 5 years.
[01:53] <natic`kubuntu> aw, ubuntu is not convincing to me
[01:53] <alexicon> me either really
[01:53] <alexicon> ive installed it for loads of people tho
[01:53] <alexicon> and its been ok
[01:53] <alexicon> but on the laptop its hassle
[01:53] <natic`kubuntu> RIGHT
[01:53] <alexicon> i cant believe suse is working better than it
[01:53] <natic`kubuntu> <-- dell laptop
[01:54] <natic`kubuntu> suse was the only one who worked with my laptop out of the box
[01:54] <alexicon> used to have quite a lot of faith in *ubuntu
[01:54] <alexicon> must have done at least 5-6 installs over the summer, but edgy has been too buggy
[01:54] <natic`kubuntu> but my suse installation is pretty slow...
[01:54] <alexicon> way too buggy...
[01:54] <LeeJunFan> there's your problem, dell uses the cheapest chipset crap they can get their hands on at any given moment, likely chipsets that have no linux support.
[01:54] <alexicon> dell is pretty bog standard
[01:54] <natic`kubuntu> aaaaw
[01:54] <alexicon> its been fine for linux really
[01:54] <natic`kubuntu> therefore, i have an insurance against stupidity for 3 years
[01:54] <alexicon> so many people have dell its likely to be more supported, or at least easier to find support for
[01:55] <LeeJunFan> broadcom chipsets and the such are not quality.
[01:55] <Chani> is there anyone here that has experience with apt-get?
[01:55] <natic`kubuntu> i can take a cup of coffee and split it over my laptop, and i'll get a new one a week later
[01:55] <natic`kubuntu> delivered to my place
[01:55] <lbb_> chani: a litle...
[01:55] <alexicon> but this is rather irrelevant
[01:55] <LeeJunFan> My company bought 6 dell inspirons some time back, 5 of them didn't last long enough to get the coffee hot enough to spill on them.
[01:56] <Chani> lbb_: see my earlier question
[01:56] <alexicon> ive used linux since 2001, and gentoo for most of that time, i switched to *ubuntu cos its supposed to be less of a headache :P
[01:56] <alexicon> anyone know whats up with these wifi connections?
[01:56] <natic`kubuntu> nope
[01:56] <alexicon> mrrrrr
[01:56] <natic`kubuntu> i did a few more installation during this summer
[01:56] <natic`kubuntu> 10-20
[01:56] <natic`kubuntu> of suse...
[01:56] <natic`kubuntu> and sometimes it worked, and sometimes it did not
[01:56] <alexicon> did about 5-6 of kubuntu dapper that all went as planned
[01:56] <LeeJunFan> alexicon: what chipset is your wifi?
[01:56] <natic`kubuntu> sometimes it worked with knetwork manager, sometimes only over ifup
[01:57] <Chani> alexicon: heh, I switched 'cause I didn't have time to maintain gentoo. I'd forgotten about the dist-upgrade nightmare
[01:57] <alexicon> 06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[01:57] <alexicon> yeah Chani heh
[01:57] <LeeJunFan> !wifi
[01:57] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:57] <alexicon> dist-upgrade, i dont bother, i just do a fresh install
[01:57] <alexicon> yeah LeeJunFan ive read that all bloody day
[01:57] <alexicon> and it doesnt have anything useful
[01:57] <natic`kubuntu> goddammit, why did not anybody tell me, that the gnome installation requieres some action?
[01:57] <alexicon> my card works
[01:57] <alexicon> i just cant connect
[01:57] <jontec> can anyone tell me why my sound doesn't work? The controls built in to my laptop work fine... it mutes and raises and lowers the volume of my sound, but I don't get any sound T_T I am on a amd64 Gateway MX6446 running kubuntu edgy
[01:57] <Chani> it'd be nice if there was someone to talk to about this stuff.
[01:58] <alexicon> chani heres the place :P
[01:58] <Chani> alexicon: apparently not
[01:58] <natic`kubuntu> jontec: i had this problem, because my pcm was turned off for any reason
[01:58] <LeeJunFan> alexicon: crap, I don't know about that chipset. I do madwifi atheros all the time.
[01:58] <natic`kubuntu> is there any mini-pci card out there, able to manage wifi AND bluetooth?
[01:58] <alexicon> its ok LeeJunFan its nowt to do with the chipset tho. i cant get an ip is the problem
[01:58] <Chani> alexicon: one person has "a litle" experience with apt-get. nobody answered my dist-upgrade question
[01:58] <Cheza-chan> does someone know why edgy isnt assigning a hwaddress to wlan0?
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> so i ran sudo -s or some silly command like that, now anything sudo gives me an error
[01:59] <LeeJunFan> alexicon: but iwconfig shows you the info for the card?
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> any ideas?
[01:59] <alexicon> yep LeeJunFan
[01:59] <alexicon> shows everything
[01:59] <natic`kubuntu> "some silly command"
[01:59] <alexicon> even the key
[01:59] <jontec> natic'kubuntu: it's not that :D in kmix everything's turned all the way up... T_T
[01:59] <natic`kubuntu> hm
[01:59] <jontec> natic`kubuntu: it's not that :D in kmix everything's turned all the way up... T_T
[01:59] <natic`kubuntu> i don't know
[01:59] <robotgeek> jontec: try changing keyboard layout , edgy or dapper?
[01:59] <alexicon> says im on the essid, but wont gimme an ip
[01:59] <LeeJunFan> alexicon: dhclient [device]  won't get you an IP via dhcp?
[01:59] <alexicon> !dist-upgrade >> Chani
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-upgrade > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> natic`kubuntu: well it saw something like sudo -s
[01:59] <alexicon> nope LeeJunFan it fails
[02:00] <drkm> I just installed KDevelop but it didn't seem to make any short cuts on my program menu??
[02:00] <jontec> robotgeek: how will that help? edgy... I just upgraded... but it didn't work before on dapper
[02:00] <alexicon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37842/ LeeJunFan
[02:00] <natic`kubuntu> why are you using sudo -s?
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> can't remember it off the top of my head
[02:00] <alexicon> thats what i get with dhclient
[02:00] <natic`kubuntu> stop it... :P
[02:00] <alexicon> !dist-update
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <alexicon> stupid
[02:00] <LjL> !upgrade
[02:00] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> alexicon: crp, gotta run. if you're on later while I'm on I'll see if I can help you out.
[02:00] <jontec> alexicon: dist-upgrade isn't a package :D
[02:00] <alexicon> cheers LeeJunFan
[02:01] <robotgeek> jontec: oh sorry, i misunderstood.
[02:01] <alexicon> its not my issue jontec its someone else
[02:01] <Chani> I'm about to attempt a dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy, but I'm a little concerned about the changes apt wants to make. it's saying it'll remove things like kubuntu-desktop and linux-kernel-headers. should I be worried?
[02:01] <lbb_> drkm: do you know how to do it manually?
[02:01] <robotgeek> jontec: your sound doesn't work? or what exactly is the issue?
[02:01] <alexicon> no chani its no worry
[02:01] <natic`kubuntu> Chani: it should work fine
[02:01] <alexicon> its safe
[02:02] <Chani> ok
[02:02] <natic`kubuntu> hey, folks...
[02:02] <natic`kubuntu> i start the adept manager
[02:02] <natic`kubuntu> search for "gnome"
[02:02] <natic`kubuntu> install gnome
[02:02] <jontec> robotgeek: kubuntu resopnds to my laptop's integrated sound buttons fine, but the sound just doesn't work. I was trying to play a .ogg and I got no sound. It has never worked... it didn't work on dapper
[02:02] <natic`kubuntu> with all other things it requires
[02:02] <natic`kubuntu> and now? should it work after ctrl-alt-backspace?
[02:02] <jontec> robotgeek: I have sound turned all the way up in kmix and sound turned all the way up with my notebook buttons
[02:03] <alexicon> yeah natic`kubuntu you gotta choose it from the menu
[02:03] <alexicon> as you are logging in
[02:03] <natic`kubuntu> great
[02:03] <alexicon> :)
[02:03] <natic`kubuntu> never got this far with suse :
[02:03] <alexicon> lol
[02:03] <natic`kubuntu> GODDAMMIT
[02:03] <drkm> llb: I can run it by running KDevelop from 'Run'.. but I installed the multi-programming-language one.. wasn't sure if that was all in the 1 program, or it installed multiple programs?
[02:03] <natic`kubuntu> i need to adjust my keyboard layout...
[02:03] <robotgeek> jontec: hmm, interesting. is the correct channel/device selected in kmix preferences
[02:03] <natic`kubuntu> i cant make brackets for smileys
[02:03] <alexicon> same natic`kubuntu heh ive got a jap kb, and in english i dont have winslash or pipe
[02:03] <natic`kubuntu> i used to have
[02:03] <alexicon> cant remember where i stored the map
[02:04] <natic`kubuntu> then i had to reconfigure x
[02:04] <natic`kubuntu> and now...
[02:04] <natic`kubuntu> stupid installation guide... asking me if i want to use a 102 key-keyboard or something else
[02:04] <natic`kubuntu> do they expect me to count the keys?!
[02:04] <natic`kubuntu> -.-
[02:04] <notech> heaven forbid it offer choices
[02:04] <lbb_> drmk i don't know kdevelop, but once you run it you should see if it supports more than one language
[02:05] <jontec> robotgeek: you mean as in master channel and pcm? I tried switching them.... (I only have pcm and master) but no change
[02:05] <Chani> jontec: are you in the group that has permission to use the sound card?
[02:05] <LjL> natic`kubuntu, you could just have press Enter at the default (which happened to be the previous setting that you had in xorg.conf)
[02:05] <LjL> aka "audio"
[02:05] <natic`kubuntu> i did
[02:05] <crimsun_> jontec: which sound card?
[02:06] <jontec> Chani: it's listed in my user.... if I wasn't in the group... then it'd have an x over the kmix icon, correct?
[02:06] <sedat> how can I set default view as "detailed list view" permanently in konquerer
[02:06] <jontec> crimsun_: I have no idea... I'd have to log onto windows to find out I think
[02:06] <alexicon> mmm ThePub
[02:06] <robotgeek> jontec: lspci -v
[02:06] <crimsun_> jontec: asoundconf list
[02:06] <robotgeek> heh, better :)
[02:06] <ThePub> tasty and cold-filtered :)
[02:06] <lbb_> sedat: isn't it in the prefs?
[02:06] <alexicon> heh
[02:06] <notech> jontec: lscpi -vv | grep -i audio
[02:07] <sedat> lbb_: when I canged it
[02:07] <notech> i've seen where asoundconf didn't list it, or correctly
[02:07] <sedat> it changes back again
[02:08] <crimsun_> notech: that's the entire point.
[02:08] <sedat> lbb_: what do you mean by prefs
[02:08] <crimsun_> notech: if it doesn't return anything, we know something additional
[02:08] <lbb_> sedat: prefferences
[02:08] <natic`kubuntu> so
[02:08] <jontec> notech, crimsun_, robotgeek: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 437b (rev 01)
[02:08] <natic`kubuntu> i'll try gnome now...
[02:08] <notech> k, just thought it might be nice to see what it actually was first :)
[02:08] <natic`kubuntu> brb
[02:09] <crimsun_> jontec: lsmod |grep ^snd_atiixp
[02:09] <sedat> lbb_: where is preferences
[02:09] <jontec> crimsun_: I got nothing back from that.... was I supposed to?
[02:09] <natic`kubuntu> kay thats my gnome
[02:09] <natic`kubuntu> neato
[02:10] <crimsun_> jontec: what was returned from ``asoundconf list''?
[02:10] <natic`kubuntu> some mac fetish
[02:10] <Perseid> in grub what's the difference between root and rootnoverify?
[02:10] <jontec> crimsun_: SB
[02:11] <natic`kubuntu> xgl, i am coming
[02:11] <crimsun_> jontec: and the output from amixer?
[02:11] <crimsun_> jontec: use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:11] <sedat> lbb_: where can I change preferences
[02:11] <lbb_> sedat: sorry its called settings ->configure konqueror
[02:12] <jontec> crimsun_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37848/
[02:12] <sedat> lbb_: I couldn't find such a settings in there,
[02:12] <crimsun_> jontec: cat /proc/asound/modules
[02:14] <jontec> crimsun_:  0 snd_hda_intel
[02:14] <alexicon> LOL i like how firefox is described as "lightweight" still
[02:14] <crimsun_> jontec: ah, you need to try alsa-driver-1.0.14rc1
[02:15] <jontec> crimsun_: hehe... that's weird that it even said intel... I have an amd64
[02:15] <jontec> crimsun_:how?
[02:15] <lbb_> sedat: try configure view profiles
[02:15] <crimsun_> jontec: download alsa-driver from www.alsa-project.org
[02:16] <goodthing> LeeJunFan: i have reverted /media/home to /media/sda1 again, but i do not get why /home/username gives me less files than /media/sda1
[02:16] <natic`kubuntu> eeeeeeeeeeeeew
[02:16] <goodthing> that's weird
[02:16] <natic`kubuntu> my firefox icon is so ugly
[02:16] <natic`kubuntu> some globe...
[02:16] <natic`kubuntu> eeeeeeeeeeeeew
[02:16] <natic`kubuntu> howto change it into the orange cute fox?
[02:17] <sedat> lbb_: thanks I just realized that
[02:17] <lbb_> natic: rightclick it and go to configure
[02:17] <jontec> crimsun_: the development release?
[02:17] <crimsun_> jontec: yes.
[02:18] <jontec> crimsun_: so what's this do?
[02:18] <crimsun_> jontec: you need to install build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r) next
[02:18] <crimsun_> jontec: you need newer drivers.
[02:20] <jontec> okay... is "linux-headers-$(uname -r) next" a command? where do I run it? anywhere?
[02:21] <crimsun_> use adept/aptitude/apt-get to install `build-essential' and `linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[02:22] <lbb_> anyone know how to unhide a partition, it is hidden by hide(hd0,1) in grub, but unhide(hd0,1) gives me "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist"
[02:23] <matthew> Is the guy who was named townyc here?
[02:23] <matthew> I was helping him w/ his xorg.conf
[02:23] <bgsteffens> anybody know anything about zlib?
[02:25] <matthew> lbb_, maybe try show
[02:25] <goodthing> anyone knows if perpendicular hard disks are a problem under linux?
[02:25] <matthew> goodthing, no problem
[02:26] <matthew> goodthing, it is transparent to the operating system
[02:26] <lbb_> matthew: bash: show: command not found
[02:26] <sedat> lbb_: how can I set my profile as default profile :)
[02:26] <matthew> lbb_, I wasn't sure, just try some synonyms of that
[02:26] <goodthing> matthew: hmm, ok, but my system does not boot with it when i put two other disk in it so there must be some bug
[02:27] <matthew> goodthing, hmmm, that doesn't make sense, because perpendicular refers to the orientation of magnetic particles
[02:27] <goodthing> bad thing is that i have no third spare sata disk lying around to test that
[02:27] <matthew> magnetically charged particles, at least
[02:27] <jontec> crimsun_: but I don't understand what I do with this .tar.gz file that I'm downloading?
[02:28] <jontec> .tar.bz2*
[02:28] <crimsun_> jontec: do you have those packages installed yet?
[02:28] <matthew> goodthing, I should think it's just a coincidence
[02:28] <goodthing> matthew: i know, but it also does not makes sense that the /dev/sda and /dev/sdc are getting switched when i put three disks in my system
[02:28] <jontec> crimsun_: no, I am downloading the file... (I have dial-up so I have to do one at a time)
[02:28] <lbb_> sedat I dont know actually
[02:28] <matthew> goodthing, hmmm, I really have no idea...sorry
[02:29] <bgsteffens> is there something like the ms-dos batch file for linux?
[02:29] <crimsun_> jontec: you have to compile newer drivers yourself, which is the process through which I'm talking yoe
[02:29] <alexicon> bash script bgsteffens
[02:29] <crimsun_> you
[02:29] <bgsteffens> ty
[02:30] <matthew> bgsteffens, bash
[02:30] <matthew> just so you know...lol
[02:30] <hazard> goodthing: your bios might actually be detecting the drives in a diffrent order when you have more of them, giving the order to linux (since it will see the drives in the order the bios does to assign letters anyway)
[02:31] <alexicon> anyone have tips for installing the nvidia-glx drivers??
[02:31] <hazard> sell your soul?
[02:31] <alexicon> heh
[02:31] <hazard> I've *HEARD* its easier than getting GL support on an ATI card, but beyond that not really.
[02:31] <coreymon77> guys
[02:31] <hazard> (I know i've gotten it to work once or twice)
[02:31] <coreymon77> my frend sis trying ot instyall kubuntu
[02:32] <coreymon77> and he needs to resize his partition
[02:32] <jontec> crimsun_: it's gonna be 4MB download for the build-essential package... that's gonna be about 15-20 minutes T_T
[02:32] <bgsteffens> matthew: how do i name a bash script and then how do i run it?
[02:32] <matthew> coreymon77, I can help
[02:32] <coreymon77> how should he do it
[02:32] <alexicon> "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable". always fails for me
[02:32] <alexicon> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[02:32] <alexicon> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[02:32] <alexicon> but it says its installed
[02:32] <coreymon77> hes using qtparted to resiize the ntfs partition
[02:32] <alexicon> !nvidia
[02:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:32] <goodthing> hazard: so... me thinking loud: there is no way to get three disks to work for me
[02:32] <matthew> bgsteffens, I think you put this in the first line : #!bash
[02:32] <hazard> bgsteffens: have you written the script already
[02:32] <matthew> bgsteffens, not sure though
[02:32] <hazard> ?
[02:32] <murchadh_bhaba> bgsteffens, nano ~/myfirstscript
[02:32] <matthew> coreymon77, I can help you if you'd like
[02:32] <coreymon77> but we dont knwo how much to leave off for linux
[02:33] <alexicon> bgsteffens: name it anything just run it iwth ./bashscriptname
[02:33] <matthew> coreymon77, are you dual-booting?
[02:33] <hazard> goodthing: I know for a fact you can get more than 3 drives working ( have machines with as many as 14 harddrives which all work fine)
[02:33] <alexicon> make sure you have the permission right
[02:33] <bgsteffens> alexicon ok thanks
[02:33] <alexicon> chmod +x bashscript
[02:33] <alexicon> so you can execute it
[02:33] <natic`kubuntu> oka
[02:33] <natic`kubuntu> okay
[02:33] <murchadh_bhaba> Type echo "hello bgsteffens!"
[02:33] <natic`kubuntu> i got xgl up and running
[02:33] <hazard> bgsteffens: do what alexicon says
[02:33] <natic`kubuntu> and now? how do i get this cool cube effects?
[02:33] <alexicon> really natic`kubuntu!
[02:33] <matthew> coreymon77, do you have Windows XP on another partition?
[02:33] <alexicon> beryl natic`kubuntu
[02:33] <goodthing> hazard: i dunno, i am just guessing here
[02:33] <coreymon77> he does
[02:33] <natic`kubuntu> compiz
[02:34] <alexicon> howd you get it working natic`kubuntu are you using nvidia?
[02:34] <hazard> goodthing: what's your hardware setup?
[02:34] <natic`kubuntu> yep, nvidia
[02:34] <matthew> coreymon77, How big is the hard drive?
[02:34] <alexicon> mrrr
[02:34] <murchadh_bhaba> bgsteffens, ctrl^o, enter, ctrl^x
[02:34] <coreymon77> 250
[02:34] <coreymon77> gigs
[02:34] <alexicon> your nvidia-glx just worked natic`kubuntu?
[02:34] <natic`kubuntu> don't remember...
[02:34] <alexicon> :P
[02:34] <matthew> coreymon77, Why not just split it in half? Don't forget to make a swap partition!
[02:34] <natic`kubuntu> i guess, i had to use this alternative thing
[02:34] <murchadh_bhaba> bgsteffens, chmod +x ~/myfirstscript
[02:34] <alexicon> what alternative thing?
[02:34] <natic`kubuntu> but now, on xgl, my fonts are so small ^
[02:34] <murchadh_bhaba> bgsteffens, ~/myfirstscript
[02:34] <bgsteffens> hazard: got it :) .. 'nano b'... #!/bin/bash \n echo hi ... chmod +x b ... ./b
[02:35] <alexicon> ~/ will only work if the script is in your home dir
[02:35] <natic`kubuntu> i can hardly see something
[02:35] <coreymon77> how bigshould the swap be
[02:35] <alexicon> 512-1gb
[02:35] <hazard> my experience has indicated that mesa pretty transparently came in when needed, I dunno if it'd to the window server if the card couldn't on its own
[02:35] <alexicon> or more if uyou want coreymon77
[02:35] <alexicon> i use 1gb
[02:35] <natic`kubuntu> there are nvidia-glx, alexicon and something alternative, don't remember
[02:35] <alexicon> alternative? tell meeeee :P
[02:36] <natic`kubuntu> i've never seen my swap partition in use -.-
[02:36] <alexicon> ive got nvidia-kernel-common, nvidia-glx and kernel restricted modules
[02:36] <hazard> there's the nvidia binary drivers, and then some open source ones
[02:36] <hazard> there's also the ati ones, and the old mamed ati open souce drivers.
[02:36] <alexicon> swap goes to use when you dont use a program for a while
[02:36] <alexicon> it switches out of proper memory onto harddisk
[02:36] <hazard> either way, the ati drivers for linux suck (from what I've heard)
[02:36] <natic`kubuntu> i am running an xgl session right now...
[02:36] <natic`kubuntu> but how do i use the cuuuube?!
[02:36] <natic`kubuntu> :)
[02:36] <alexicon> whenever an app lags when you havent used it a while its cos of swap
[02:36] <goodthing> hazard: motherboard: asus a8n sli deluxe with a nforce 4 chip (SATA-II), one seagate barracuda 750GB (just bought and put on the first SATA port of motherboard), two maxtor diamondmax plus 10 300GB (second and third port). The system only boots with two connectors in use, three is a problem.
[02:37] <alexicon> natic`kubuntu: did you add a repo to get nvidia working???
[02:37] <alexicon> apart from uni/multiverse that is
[02:37] <natic`kubuntu> nope, alexicon
[02:37] <alexicon> hrm
[02:37] <hazard> goodthing: that board has an onboard RAID controller (I'd think), you're sure it isn't trying to autoconfigure the towo 300s into a mirror 300 or stripe 600?
[02:37] <alexicon> i dont get why it doesnt work for me
[02:37] <natic`kubuntu> hm
[02:37] <natic`kubuntu> how the hack do i use this cube effect?
[02:37] <natic`kubuntu> whats the shortcut?
[02:38] <hazard> goodthing: and which drive is it PRESENTLY booting off of (if any?), also it may be interesting to see what the bios thinks it should be booting from.
[02:38] <murchadh_bhaba> natic`kubuntu, Can you see the red beryl icon in the system tray?
[02:38] <coreymon77> okay
[02:38] <alexicon> how can i be sure if the nvidia-kernel is running???
[02:38] <hazard> On my machine with 14 drives, its sometimes vauge as to which drive what bios thinkgs should be booting the system
[02:38] <alexicon> natic`kubuntu: do a uname -a for me plz
[02:38] <goodthing> hazard: correct, it has raid, but that is on the four red SATA connectors, not the black one. So i guess that would be no. (also, raid is disabled in BIOS)
[02:38] <natic`kubuntu> Linux Jenny 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:39] <alexicon> same as me then
[02:39] <alexicon> nrrr
[02:39] <coreymon77> okay guys
[02:39] <alexicon> okay coreymon77
[02:39] <coreymon77> now he has his dirve and his swap
[02:39] <natic`kubuntu> i don't know what a beryl is, murchadh_bhaba
[02:39] <natic`kubuntu> english is not my native languagepack :P
[02:39] <alexicon> beryl is a fancy compiz
[02:39] <hazard> goodthing: does linux have SATA be /dev/hd* or /dev/sd*?
[02:39] <goodthing> hazard: currently booting from the new drive, but that only works if i disconnect one of the maxtors
[02:39] <coreymon77> now
[02:39] <matthew> coreymon77, did that answer all your questions
[02:39] <matthew> ?
[02:39] <coreymon77> nope
[02:39] <alexicon> compiz is just transparency stuff? beryl does the cube?
[02:40] <alexicon> i think thats it
[02:40] <coreymon77> now for installing
[02:40] <alexicon> but not sure
[02:40] <goodthing> hazard: the
[02:40] <goodthing> oops
[02:40] <hazard> goodthing: what does the system post screen say?
[02:40] <natic`kubuntu> kay... i don't see no tray icons anywhere... there is only the sound thing, the konversation thing, and the log out thing
[02:40] <hazard> (when all the drives are connected?)
[02:40] <murchadh_bhaba> natic`kubuntu, I had to install beryl and emerald to get the spinny cube thingy, beryl loads, does it's thing. Radeon 9250!
[02:40] <goodthing> hazard: the BIOS detects the disks in order i connect them afaik
[02:40] <natic`kubuntu> okay
[02:40] <natic`kubuntu> enough for today then
[02:40] <natic`kubuntu> i'll go to sleep
[02:40] <coreymon77> matthew:
[02:40] <coreymon77> for partitioning
[02:40] <natic`kubuntu> its about 3 am in germany right now
[02:41] <coreymon77> how should he do it
[02:41] <coreymon77> manually
[02:41] <hazard> well, that makes sense I guess, and the bios is set to boot from the first one?
[02:41] <coreymon77> in the installer
[02:41] <natic`kubuntu> see ya
[02:41] <alexicon> night natic`kubuntu
[02:41] <hazard> wait, did you say it would startup with two of them, or only the 750 alone?
[02:42] <matthew> coreymon77, so, you're set for partitions?
[02:42] <coreymon77> i dont know
[02:42] <coreymon77> matthew: i already have kubuntu installed and done
[02:42] <goodthing> hazard: there is no POST message, sometimes it comes with an usb error though
[02:42] <coreymon77> this is for my friend'
[02:42] <matthew> coreymon77, ok, ok, He should resize the NTFS partition
[02:42] <hazard> lol, USB for comic releif
[02:42] <coreymon77> matthew: hes already done resizing, now we are using the installer
[02:42] <hazard> so if all 3 drives are connected, it does nothing?
[02:42] <matthew> coreymon77, then with the remaining space, make a 1 gig swap partition and partition the rest to be ext3
[02:43] <coreymon77> weve done that
[02:43] <coreymon77> we did that all in qtparted
[02:43] <hazard> Just nothing? (which is diffrent from what I was thinking was going on)
[02:43] <coreymon77> matthew: now we are in the installer
[02:43] <matthew> coreymon77, so...ok...do need help w/ anything? (I'm so lost)
[02:43] <matthew> coreymon77, ok...what's the problem?
[02:43] <coreymon77> and we are in the manual partition tables window in the kubuntu installer
[02:43] <matthew> coreymon77, you need to select "manually edit partition scheme" or something like that
[02:44] <coreymon77> yes
[02:44] <coreymon77> and now on that window
[02:44] <hazard> because, if that's the case goodthing, then its a hardware conflict of some bizzare kind relating to the sata controller and the driver (likely similar to what happens with IDE when you have two drives with the same ID)
[02:44] <matthew> I would leave it as it is, if you have the partitions the way he wants them...
[02:44] <coreymon77> heres what it says
[02:44] <tomlins> anyone help me with Amarok ? It will play all media, CDs etc but not streaming audio :(
[02:44] <matthew> coreymon77, ok
[02:45] <matthew> coreymon77, ok, I'll go to the private chat area now...
[02:45] <goodthing> hazard: depends on which of the maxtors is at third sata connector, if i put the old disk with dapper on second SATA connector and the other maxtor on third SATA connector, edgy stalls at: "Waiting for root file system..."
[02:46] <goodthing> hazard: if i go the other way around, and swith the connectors of the two maxtors i get some weird error which i made a screenshot of
[02:46] <goodthing> (need to find it now...)
[02:46] <hazard> o.O
[02:47] <hazard> That brings back memories....
[02:47] <goodthing> hazard: http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/7773/1000990fj6.jpg
[02:48] <goodthing> sorry about the quality, it's a bad camera, one trillion mili movement and all is streched
[02:48] <hazard> those are the USB errors?
[02:48] <tomlins> anyone help me with Amarok ? It will play all media, CDs etc but not streaming audio :(
[02:48] <hazard> They look pretty tpyical, I get all kinds of werid USB errors, and my system is fine.
[02:48] <hazard> but it never gets past there?
[02:49] <goodthing> hazard: nope, it just sits there but only with the disk exactly attached like that
[02:50] <hazard> goodthing: here's a crazy idea, what if you leave the 750 connected to the FIRST sata connector, then connected the two 300s to the RAID controller, and set it up to have them be standalone drives (it should let you do that)
[02:50] <goodthing> hazard: nope the other USB error is at the boot immediately but only returns rarely, i am forced to boot into an OS without a USB-keyboard to get around that error when that happens
[02:51] <goodthing> hazard: that is an error i already had on windows 1.5 years ago though
[02:51] <hazard> I have no idea what linux would do though
[02:52] <goodthing> hazard: me neiter, but there is data on those disks i cannot loose
[02:52] <hazard> anyway, I've gotta go get ready for a final, goodluck! (keep in mind its probably something bizzare and conflict-like, and so so simple)
[02:52] <goodthing> thanks for help hazard :)
[02:52] <hazard> oh, and lucky you for having 2x300G + one of those new 750s.
[02:53] <hazard> soz I couldn't be more helpful, later
[02:53] <Dark> makes me cry when I think of my 20gb hdd on laptop :(
[02:53] <goodthing> np, been helpfull to me
[02:54] <lbb_> tomlins: have you installed mp3 codecs?
[02:56] <mariano> hey guys, I am having trouble getting sound out of flash player. can someone help me, it is the last thing that I need to fully abandon windows
[02:57] <kristopher> Who would name a release anything resembling the hurd
[02:57] <crimsun_> mariano: use one of the backports
[02:57] <ubuntu> hey
[02:57] <mariano> what do I install, it says that flash player is already installed
[02:58] <crimsun_> mariano: lsb_release -r
[02:58] <lbb_> hi ubuntu
[02:59] <crimsun_> mariano: more than likely you need to enable -backports for whatever release you're using
[02:59] <mariano> 6.10
[02:59] <mariano> is what I get
[02:59] <crimsun_> right, you need edgy-backports
[02:59] <crimsun_> !backports |mariano
[02:59] <ubotu> mariano: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[02:59] <mariano> thanks
[02:59] <kristopher> anyways, thanks to whoever recommended EasyTAG yesterday
[03:00] <jontec> crimsun_: okay, it's done, so just run that command?
[03:00] <crimsun_> jontec: which command?
[03:00] <kristopher> although it has a mind of its own which i blame on gtk, it works well.
[03:00] <ubuntu> hey people , any one see me ??
[03:00] <murchadh_bhaba> Ubugtu, oh yeah.
[03:00] <jontec> crimsun_: "linux-headers-$(uname -r) next"
[03:01] <jontec> crimsun_: replace uname with my username?
[03:01] <crimsun_> jontec: no.
[03:01] <crimsun_> jontec: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:01] <lbb_> ununtu: what's the problem?
[03:01] <ubuntu> thank you
[03:03] <jontec> crimsun_:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37854/
[03:03] <crimsun_> jontec: good, now download alsa-driver-1.0.14rc1
[03:03] <ubuntu> man how many people are here ............
[03:03] <crimsun_> jontec: I'm off for dinner and will return in 2 hours
[03:04] <ForgeAus> hey all
[03:04] <mariano> I did the whole backport thing and still no sound for flash player 9
[03:04] <jontec> crimsun_: and do what? before you leave?
[03:04] <ForgeAus> I'm running Kubuntu from within VM ware and I have an issue with the powermanagement
[03:04] <ForgeAus> (I can't seem to shrink the screen :( )
[03:04] <DaSkreech> Dink: Heya
[03:04] <tomlins> anyone know possibly why my Amarok will play streaming audio but I cant here it ? It plays other media just fine
[03:04] <ForgeAus> does SIGSEGV mean anyting to you guys?
[03:05] <mariano> I've tried three different browsers and nothing. I just get the picture with no sound
[03:05] <crimsun_> jontec: extract the tarball, use ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-cards=hda-intel --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build --with-debug=detect && make && sudo make install-modules
[03:05] <DaSkreech> tomlins: Did you install extracodecs?
[03:05] <jontec> crimsun_: and that's it?
[03:05] <jontec> crimsun_: sorry for holding you up
[03:06] <tomlins> nope
[03:06] <tomlins> just what ever was downloaded with Kubunty
[03:06] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: 297
[03:06] <crimsun_> jontec: reboot afterward.
[03:06] <tomlins> kubuntu excuse me
[03:06] <DaSkreech> tomlins: install mp3 support
[03:07] <DaSkreech> !mp3 > tomlins
[03:07] <lbb_> tomlins: search for automatix, it will install all yo need
[03:07] <tomlins> great !
[03:08] <tomlins> thanks !
[03:08] <lbb_> anyone know how to unhide a partition, it is hidden by hide(hd0,1) in grub, but unhide(hd0,1) gives me "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist"
[03:08] <mariano> any idea as to how I can get sound on media flash player
[03:09] <LjL> !automatix | lbb_, tomlins
[03:09] <ubotu> lbb_, tomlins: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:09] <tomlins> hmmm, ok
[03:09] <jontec> crimsun_:thanks. and have a good dinner :D
[03:10] <coreymon77> !worksforme
[03:10] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:10] <tomlins> so, can anyone play streaming audio ok with Amarok ?
[03:11] <lbb_> ubotu: what is WorksForMe?
[03:11] <ubuntu> hello people , why is it that when i try to install kubuntu en my cpu it installs fine , but , when i do restart to start from the hard drive it gives me this message grub loading and then  ,error 105 ,
[03:11] <DaSkreech> tomlins: Install mp3 support
[03:11] <DaSkreech> !mp3 | tomlins
[03:11] <ubotu> tomlins: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:11] <LjL> lbb_: look just above.
[03:11] <tomlins> yep. checking those out now :)
[03:11] <DaSkreech> !grub
[03:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:11] <ubuntu> ??
[03:11] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Read that last link
[03:12] <ubuntu> thank you
[03:16] <nibi> Hi
[03:16] <lbb_> LjL: I'm a bit confused about !WorksForme, also are you a bot too?
[03:17] <LjL> lbb_: no
[03:17] <lbb_> nini: Hi
[03:17] <LjL> lbb_: !worksforme is a bot factoid, just like !automatix. it's something that you can ask the bot about. and that's been done --
[03:17] <LjL> !worksforme
[03:17] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:17] <LjL> see?
[03:18] <nibi> i am having problems installing/uninstalling stuff, maybe there's something wrong with my package manager
[03:18] <lbb_> LjL: why did a tab just open explaining ubotu?
[03:18] <nibi> totally new to kubuntu
[03:18] <lbb_> nibi: what's happening?
[03:18] <nibi> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1904375#post1904375
[03:19] <LjL> lbb_: because you asked "ubotu: what is WorksForMe?", not realizing, i suppose, that being just a bot, it can't really answer plain-english queries.
[03:19] <LjL> i suppose you got the "your request got forwarded", too.
[03:21] <lbb_> LjL, yeah, what does it mean
[03:22] <LjL> lbb_: it means you're involuntarily submitted a request for adding a factoid. when Ubotu sees something like "ubotu, <x> is <y>", it takes it as you're trying to instruct it on something.
[03:22] <LjL> maybe actually reading that page that i had it send to you would help understanding how that works ;)
[03:23] <lbb_> LjL, sorry, will read befory I ask any further...
[03:24] <tomlins> hey great, I inserted an mp3 CD which forced Amarok to ask if I wanted to install mp3 codecs, which I did, and now I can play streaming audio ! Super !
[03:24] <spitwise> !ubotu
[03:24] <LjL> lbb_: that's probably a good idea, not least because ubotu can be quite a nice source of information if you know how to use it.
[03:24] <LjL> !bot
[03:24] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:27] <tomlins> my next question is where do i get the libvisual stuff from ?
[03:31] <nibi> can anyone please help me out? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320849
[03:33] <lbb_> nibi: I'm not a bot, nor do i mind if you private me, but I cannot answer you there since i am not registered yet.
[03:33] <nibi> ok np
[03:33] <nibi> i just tried installing compiz a few days back
[03:34] <nibi> using adept manager
[03:34] <nibi> but it didn't complete successfully
[03:34] <nibi> gave me the following error message:
[03:34] <nibi> "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages."
[03:35] <nibi> now it lists compiz as installed, eventhough it isn't
[03:35] <lbb_> do you know what the message before that was?
[03:35] <nibi> that was the only message
[03:35] <nibi> i used the gui
[03:35] <orville> has anyone gotten the trackpad to work on a macbook pro?
[03:36] <lbb_> in the gui there is a possibility to see the shell messages
[03:36] <fannagoganna> hi, anyone know how to repair an orphaned LVM setup?
[03:36] <DaSkreech> I cna't format a partiton
[03:36] <ben_> hi
[03:36] <ben_> hi
[03:36] <ben_> hi
[03:36] <ben_> hi
[03:36] <ben_> hi
[03:36] <DaSkreech> the mkfs command is telling me a bad argument was passed to the superblock
[03:36] <ben_> hi
[03:36] <nibi> hi
[03:36] <ben_> hi
[03:38] <DaSkreech> nibi: Where did you install compiz from?
[03:38] <nibi> i just searched it on adept manager
[03:38] <mariano> no luck
[03:38] <mariano> still no sound after logging out
[03:39] <[Relic] > Is there any way to get mozilla or firefox to cooperate with yahoo?
[03:40] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Know anything about mkfs.ext3 ?
[03:40] <DaSkreech> hi goes goodthing
[03:41] <goodthing> DaSkreech: bussy with my new disk, still not made my system to adopt the damn thing
[03:41] <[Relic] > certain things like email attachements and any multi player games don
[03:41] <lbb_> mariano: I have had my flash sound working on and off, but I don't know exactly what happened...
[03:41] <[Relic] > 't work on yahoo with firefox or mozilla
[03:42] <jerp> what's flash sound?
[03:42] <wes-> i am trying to mount an NTFS partition so that a standard user can access it (this is on the live cd). when i do "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/windows", and try to open it in konqueror it says not enough permission
[03:42] <goodthing> got a new error message while booting though: http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5826/1000991ql4.jpg
[03:42] <wes-> how can i do a mount command, that will give a non superuser full access?
[03:43] <goodthing> that message is with one of the maxtor disks on SATA3 port
[03:43] <lbb_> jerp: the sound in flashplayer ( for example for youtube)
[03:45] <jerp> libb, you're further along than I if you have a flash movie playing from YouTube regardless of sound.
[03:45] <murchadh_bhaba> wes try sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /media
[03:45] <wes-> when i add "uid=1000" to the end of that mount command...it prints some help message...doesn't take the command
[03:45] <goodthing> hmm, not true what i say, it is with one specific maxtor on 3 and one specific on 2
[03:45] <wes-> any idea where my syntax is wrong?
[03:45] <murchadh_bhaba> wes try sudo mount -t ntfs -o umask=000 /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/windows
[03:46] <wes-> murchadh_bhaba: ok thanks, i know you suggested that earlier - my system crashed before i tried it
[03:46] <wes-> so i had to take a hardware detour for a few hours :)
[03:46] <lbb_> jerp: I used automatix, but that is controversial due to stabilityproblems
[03:47] <murchadh_bhaba> wes-, Try it again before I go....
[03:47] <jerp> libb, yes, I have used Automatix before
[03:48] <wes-> murchadh_bhaba: worked man, thanks!
[03:48] <ubuntu> well people thank you so much
[03:48] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Welcome
[03:48] <lbb_> jerp: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:48] <jerp> I just thought I'd try an operating system that wouldn't break and didn't install it
[03:49] <mariano> lbb, were you able to solve the issue
[03:49] <jerp> lbb, nope
[03:49] <murchadh_bhaba> wes-, Great stuff!
[03:49] <mariano> the flash player sound issue?
[03:50] <lbb_> mariano: no, as I said, I don't know what I did when it started working..
[03:50] <Jucato> DaSkreech: sorry, dunno anything about that
[03:50] <wes-> does anyone know what the password for the 'ubuntu' user is on the live cd?
[03:51] <wes-> or how i could set it?
[03:51] <LjL> wes-: should be blank
[03:51] <jerp> lbb, is that a flashplayer install guide or something?
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[03:51] <mariano> well, looks like it is back to windows for a while
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Wouldn't happen o knowwhat a GPT signature is inside of a partition table?
[03:51] <DaSkreech> mariano: What's up?
[03:51] <mariano> no flash player sound
[03:52] <mariano> this is my first time trying kubuntu
[03:52] <lbb_> jerp: I don't understand you
[03:52] <mariano> no sound for flash player though
[03:52] <DaSkreech> Which flash player did you install?
[03:52] <jerp> I spent all day trying to get gnash to work and gave up (I'm severly newb)
[03:52] <mariano> been trying to fix it the whole weekend
[03:52] <mariano> 9
[03:52] <mariano> flahs player 9
[03:52] <wes-> anyone know the command to change your current users password?
[03:53] <jerp> lbb, nevermind, I thought you were enticing me or something or is it that ol' paranoia bug again?
[03:53] <lbb_> wes: you need to know you current one
[03:53] <excitatory> wes-: passwd
[03:53] <mariano> I found this post with a solution, but i'm freeked out it might screw up my sound
[03:54] <mariano> this is the first distribution that reads my sound card
[03:54] <lbb_> mariano: whats the link?
[03:54] <wes-> sudo passwd user newpassword ?
[03:54] <goodthing> $ sudo passwd username
[03:54] <excitatory> no need for sudo
[03:54] <goodthing> aha
[03:54] <excitatory> if it's just the users password
[03:55] <mariano> http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/
[03:55] <goodthing> ah, didn't realized that
[03:55] <excitatory> mariano: the flash9 player is easy.. you download it, then mv it into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[03:55] <mariano> I did
[03:55] <mariano> I have the flash player installed
[03:55] <excitatory> for konq, just rescan
[03:55] <mariano> I get the video playback
[03:56] <mariano> but there is no sound on the playback
[03:56] <lbb_> mariano: thx!
[03:56] <mariano> lbb did it work?
[03:56] <mariano> for you?
[03:56] <excitatory> mariano: chances are your sound card is teh suck.. or in other words, old and doesn't have hardware mixing..and thus you'll have to rely on software mixing or spend the 12 bucks on a modern sound card.
[03:57] <jerp> mariano, I've got an amd64 so it probably won't work anyways huh?
[03:57] <mariano> my sound card is a m-audio mobile pre
[03:57] <mariano> it is quite up to date
[03:57] <excitatory> hrm
[03:57] <excitatory> yea.. laptops are a beast i am unfamiliar with.
[03:58] <mariano> i'm not sure amd64. I read something about there being other solutions for the 64bit platform
[03:58] <mariano> I think mplayer might do it
[03:58] <mariano> thats what i've read thus far
[03:58] <mariano> not sure though
[03:58] <lbb_> mariano: don't know, I cannot boot into my OS atm
[03:58] <lbb_> anyone know how to unhide a partition, it is hidden by hide(hd0,1) in grub, but unhide(hd0,1) gives me "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist"
[03:59] <mariano> ok, i'm going to try this link's remedy
[03:59] <mariano> i'll let you guys know if it works within a few minues
[03:59] <jerp> when I use the gnash plugin I can see the fiel start as if a lighter shade of grey on the viewing area happens, but ends before it starts.
[04:02] <tomlins> if I download libvisual for Amarok, where do I place/install it ?
[04:03] <_kuja_> why not install the libvisual package?
[04:03] <tomlins> i am a linux noob, how to do that ?
[04:04] <excitatory> tomlins: your package manager is your friend
[04:04] <tomlins> ah
[04:04] <excitatory> tomlins: adept or apt-get
[04:04] <tomlins> apt-get libvisual ?
[04:05] <ForgeAus> I'm a linux noobie 2... how do I change my screen res without getting the power manager crashing from withing VMware?
[04:05] <_kuja_> *apt-get install libvisual
[04:05] <excitatory> tomlins: sudo apt-get install libvisual-0.4-0  or just search adept
[04:05] <tomlins> i give that a try, thanks :)
[04:05] <excitatory> _kuja_: careful, 'libvisual' is not a package
[04:05] <_kuja_> indeed
[04:06] <_kuja_> libvisual-0.4.0, libvisual-0.4.0-plugins
[04:06] <jerp> forge, look in the control center
[04:06] <mariano> nothing
[04:06] <mariano> damn flash
[04:06] <mariano> player
[04:06] <mariano> I dont want to go back to windows
[04:06] <mariano> ahhh, ok I have to figure this out
[04:07] <jerp> forge, if you're in Kubuntu .... open system settings
[04:07] <tomlins> k, i tried 'sudo apt-get install libvisual-0.4-0' and it said libvisual-0.4-0 is already the newest version.
[04:07] <jerp> forge, Hardware/Display
[04:07] <excitatory> tomlins: then it's already installed.
[04:08] <tomlins> seems like it, but when i try visualization in Amarok it says no plugin installed
[04:08] <eilker> linux cant see hda6 which is ext3 , i just created it in xp via partition magic
[04:08] <_kuja_> install libvisual-0.4-plugins
[04:08] <excitatory> yep
[04:08] <ForgeAus> tried that jerp
[04:09] <tomlins> k
[04:09] <eilker> what can i do ? what is it releated with ?
[04:10] <_kuja_> eilker, if it really exists, parted will agree with you. sudo parted /dev/hda print
[04:10] <ForgeAus> jerp the system settings display applet must be dependant on the power manager somehow... (or at least use it)
[04:10] <tomlins> ok, that did something
[04:10] <tomlins> i restart Amarok and see if it made any difference
[04:10] <_kuja_> kay
[04:11] <eilker> _kuja_: it is processing
[04:11] <eilker> _kuja_: does it take time  ?
[04:11] <mariano> tomlins let me know if you are successful with the vizualization
[04:11] <mariano> I am having the same problem
[04:11] <tomlins> SUCCESS !
[04:11] <_kuja_> eilker ... never takes time when I do it ... then again, my system is rather fast
[04:12] <eilker> _kuja_: it says hda is in use
[04:12] <tomlins> great, thanks peeps !
[04:12] <mariano> tomlins
[04:12] <mariano> what did you do
[04:12] <eilker> _kuja_: i have qtparted
[04:12] <_kuja_> eilker, did it print out the partition table?
[04:12] <tomlins>  sudo apt-get install libvisual-0.4-plugins
[04:12] <tomlins> then restarted Amarok
[04:13] <eilker> _kuja_: no it didnt
[04:13] <ForgeAus> whats sudo btw? just curious
[04:13] <eilker> _kuja_: now qtparted works
[04:13] <_kuja_> eilker, qtparted is a frontend to libparted. parted is the cli version ... if you had copied and pasted the command I gave into a terminal it should have printed out he partition table. If it didn't, something may be astray.
[04:13] <_kuja_> tomlins, that's great :)
[04:13] <tomlins> yep :)
[04:13] <tomlins> verycool indeed
[04:14] <eilker> _kuja_: qtparted shows it, but when i say df -h , i cant see it.
[04:14] <Cygnus-X> hi, i need some help
[04:14] <Cygnus-X> i have this error using adept  "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "
[04:15] <mariano> nice
[04:15] <mariano> that worked
[04:15] <ForgeAus> Whats a linux distro based on rpm's with gnome? (which I figure is pretty much opposite from KDE-based Debian like Kubuntu
[04:15] <mariano> it was that parted part that worked eh?
[04:15] <_kuja_> eilker, why not just reformat the partition, if nothing's on it. Could save you some trouble.
[04:15] <mariano> man flash is driving me crazy
[04:16] <eilker> _kuja_: how can i ? i even cant see it...
[04:17] <eilker> _kuja_: ohh ok :)
[04:17] <_kuja_> can you see it now?
[04:17] <eilker> _kuja_: no
[04:17] <excitatory> ForgeAus: why you would want rpm is beyond me, but Fedora Core and OpenSuSE come to mind.. mandriva also..
[04:17] <eilker> _kuja_: but i can format it with qtparted
[04:17] <Cygnus-X> some help?
[04:17] <eilker> _kuja_: right ?
[04:18] <_kuja_> eilker: right
[04:18] <yamathan> !kde
[04:18] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[04:18] <_kuja_> eilker: I would do it from a live cd if I were you though
[04:18] <yamathan> !themes
[04:18] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:18] <ForgeAus> yeah mandriva sounds like something I could try
[04:18] <_kuja_> eilker: it's best to do it when no partitions on the disk are mounted.
[04:18] <ForgeAus> (I'm just getting used to linux to begin with
[04:18] <yamathan> !changethemes
[04:18] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[04:19] <yamathan> Don't you just love automatic answers?
[04:19] <ForgeAus> about all I know about *nix in general is it uses ls instead of dir command to display directories! (lol and even then some have a dir)
[04:19] <_kuja_> The bot isn't quite an all knowing google, but is very nice indeed :)
[04:19] <eilker> _kuja_: could u look at my fstab ? because i write it manually...?
[04:19] <_kuja_> eilker: sure
[04:19] <excitatory> ForgeAus: well, what's wrong with *ubuntu?
[04:20] <_kuja_> !pastebin
[04:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:20] <Cygnus-X> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[04:21] <excitatory> Cygnus-X: argh.. please don't paste flood.. anyway, did you at least try it again?  restart adept, then try it.
[04:21] <eilker> _kuja_: here it is, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37859/ , the problem : i cant see hda6 when i type "df -h"
[04:22] <jerp> forgeAus, this forum entry says to manually change xorg stuff.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[04:22] <_kuja_> eilker: looks fine to me
[04:22] <eilker> _kuja_: ahaa, it is not mounted...??
[04:22] <eilker> _kuja_: i didnt mount it
[04:22] <_kuja_> sudo mount /media/hda6
[04:23] <excitatory> ForgeAus: seriously, you don't want an rpm-based distro.. it will only drive you insane
[04:23] <eilker> _kuja_: sudo mount /dev/hda6 /media/hda6    ??
[04:23] <ForgeAus> exitatory, Linux in general drives me insane :) but its ok
[04:23] <_kuja_> If it's in your fstab, you don't have to type the whole thing in
[04:24] <ForgeAus> I want to test both sides of the  fence before making a choice, still I think I like Kubuntu sofar
[04:24] <ForgeAus> just a few thigns I can't do with it yet
[04:24] <_kuja_> you only have to type sudo mount <device OR sudo mount <mountpoint>
[04:24] <excitatory> ForgeAus: like what, maybe we can help?
[04:25] <_kuja_> ForgeAus: sanity is overrated anyway
[04:25] <excitatory> ForgeAus: (it's funny.. i can barely be on windows for a few minutes without getting worked up)
[04:25] <eilker> _kuja_: mount: there is no mopunt point /media/hda6
[04:25] <eilker> _kuja_: mount: there is no *mount point /media/hda6
[04:25] <_kuja_> eilker: sudo mkdir /media/hda6
[04:25] <flaccid> nice
[04:26] <yamathan> Argh!
[04:26] <excitatory> Avast!
[04:27] <eilker> _kuja_: i see it in konqueror media:/hda6/lost+found
[04:27] <yamathan> Is there any pancea to switching themes?
[04:27] <yamathan> Do I really have to do it component-by-component?  D:
[04:28] <eilker> !lost+found
[04:28] <ubotu> lost+found is where !fsck places any files it gleans from a corrupt filesystem.  These are files which had become unlinked from their parent directories.
[04:29] <_kuja_> eilker: is it working now?
[04:29] <excitatory> yamathan: no, you can find complete themes.. but if you were to do it piece by piece, it's only like 4 or 5 pieces
[04:29] <eilker> _kuja_: yes :)
[04:29] <yamathan> That's true, but I'm a total newb.  ;s
[04:29] <_kuja_> I thought so, it's just empty. Up to you to fill it up :)
[04:30] <eilker> _kuja_: thanx, let me reboot, may be it has speed problem, to access and see other medias..
[04:31] <dettoaltrimenti> what is the kde equivalent of gksudo?
[04:31] <eilker> kdesu
[04:31] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks
[04:31] <eilker> np
[04:33] <dettoaltrimenti> !kdesu
[04:33] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:36] <ForgeAus> excit worked up about what? I guess I'm used to windows
[04:36] <ForgeAus> coming from Dos -> windows background
[04:37] <ForgeAus> but I'd like to fiddle more with OSX and Linux distros
[04:37] <dettoaltrimenti> what is the name of the program that saves whatever is running when you log out, then opens it when you log back in? session manager?
[04:38] <_kuja_> k-menu -> save session
[04:38] <notech> excit?
[04:38] <notech> oh, abbreviated nick
[04:38] <ForgeAus> notech it was a username abbreviation
[04:38] <ForgeAus> lol yeah
[04:38] <ForgeAus> also the problem I'm having is probably caused somehow by VMware
[04:38] <dettoaltrimenti> I don't see save session.... is it 'lock session'?
[04:39] <ForgeAus> its just messing up the display applet in the system settings
[04:39] <ForgeAus> it causes a power management crash
[04:39] <yamathan> Wait a minute ...
[04:39] <yamathan> Kubuntu doesn't support .kth files, does it?
[04:40] <Chani> hmm, that sounds familiar
[04:40] <_kuja_> dettoaltrimenti ... it's in my kmenu, so that's odd
[04:40] <Chani> yamathan: kde-look has some sort of distro-agnostic thingy maybe?
[04:41] <yamathan> I THOUGHT they would, but NO.  :P
[04:41] <dettoaltrimenti> maybe I'm missing the package? does it have a name I can search for in adept? _kuja_
[04:41] <yamathan> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26392
[04:42] <_kuja_> dettoaltrimenti, I'll check
[04:42] <dettoaltrimenti> thank you
[04:42] <eilker> _kuja_: yes it works, now i wanna mount to /mnt/extra  , " sudo mount /media/hda6 /mnt/extra "  or " sudo mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/extra " ?
[04:43] <_kuja_> eilker, just change it in your fstab, umount it, and then remount it
[04:43] <_kuja_> don't forget to create the /mnt/extra folder
[04:43] <eilker> i have it
[04:44] <_kuja_> dettoaltrimenti, I'm not positive, but it might be this package:
[04:44] <_kuja_> ksmserver - session manager for KDE
[04:44] <phobiac> !grub
[04:44] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:46] <eilker> 1* sudo umount /media/hda6  2* /dev/hda6 /mnt/extra ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1  3* sudo mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/extra " ?  is it ok ?
[04:46] <eilker> 2* will be done in fstab
[04:47] <dettoaltrimenti> _kuja_ tried uninstalling and reinstalling- is there a way I can launch the session manager from a terminal?
[04:49] <Chani> damnit, of course he leaves as soon as I get the theme installed
[04:49] <_kuja_> dettoaltrimenti, I'll check a couple of things. It should show up in the kmenu, *should*
[04:50] <_kuja_> chani: that's life
[04:50] <phobiac> chani: issues with a theme?
[04:51] <Chani> phobiac: someone else had issues. I just downloaded, extracted and clicked the .kth file and it worked
[04:51] <phobiac> Oh
[04:52] <eilker> _kuja_: am i ok? 1* sudo umount /media/hda6            2* /dev/hda6 /mnt/extra ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1               3* sudo mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/extra " ?  is it ok ?
[04:53] <_kuja_> dettoaltrimenti: try checking the session manager section in kcontrol, I'm not sure if it shows up in systemsettings or not (thus another example of my frustration with systemsettings)
[04:53] <Chani> oh, the theme manager is something that doesn't show up in systemsettings
[04:53] <_kuja_> eilker: should be okay
[04:53] <Chani> I really hope someone finds a way to make kcontrol less of a mess in kde4
[04:53] <_kuja_> Chani: another great example
[04:54] <DaSkreech> When is the gif copyright up?
[04:54] <_kuja_> Chani: I find kcontrol okay ... ever since that little filter box showed up ... or was that there all along? I don't remember
[04:55] <_kuja_> DaSkreech: I thought it was a patent, wasn't it?
[04:55] <DaSkreech> Right that thing :)
[04:55] <mariano> man,  still no luck with this flash
[04:55] <mariano> anyone else in here had this issue before
[04:56] <eilker> _kuja_: done:) thanx again
[04:56] <_kuja_> eilker: You're welcome.
[04:56] <DaSkreech> mariano: Check the forums
[04:56] <mariano> I have
[04:56] <mariano> did the manual install and nothing
[04:56] <jessie> hello all
[04:56] <_kuja_> hello
[04:57] <phobiac> mariano: What's the issue with flash you're having?
[04:57] <mariano> no sound
[04:57] <mariano> I get the video but no sound comes out
[04:57] <jessie> hey anybody know what a good program is to make flash videos?
[04:57] <matthew> mariano, look around in /etc/firefox for firefoxrc
[04:58] <matthew> change "auto" or whatever is listed for "aoss"
[04:58] <msak007> hey everybody
[04:58] <matthew> mariano, you may need to do a "sudo apt-get install alsa-oss"
[04:58] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: 11th Aug 2006 :)
[04:58] <phobiac> mariano: Hmm, only similar bug I get is that flash movie will just stop working for me. Games will lose their sound too.
[04:58] <mariano> let me try the also oss
[04:59] <mariano> maybe that will work
[04:59] <matthew> mariano, hope so
[04:59] <Chani> I thought the gif patents had already expired
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Chani: Yeah I just realised
[04:59] <mariano> mathew, will I need to logout
[04:59] <DaSkreech>  how come no one told me :(
[04:59] <matthew> mariano, no
[04:59] <_kuja_> DaSkreech, good news :)
[04:59] <matthew> mariano, only restart firefox
[04:59] <Chani> mariano: flash with no dound? ff or konq?
[04:59] <matthew> mariano, I'm assuming you're using firefox
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Yeah now if people would get off thier butts and use teh PNG animation extension we could kill gifs
[05:00] <mariano> yes
[05:00] <Chani> there's a specific setting I always needed for konq
[05:00] <mariano> firefox 2.0
[05:00] <matthew> mariano, cool, this should/might work
[05:00] <mariano> nope did not work
[05:00] <Chani> I've no idea how to make FF use artsd for sound
[05:00] <jessie> hey anybody know what a good program is to make flash videos?
[05:00] <_kuja_> DaSkreech ... which extensions would those be?
[05:00] <matthew> mariano, try "alsa"
[05:01] <Chani> I wonder if 'artsdsp firefox' would work
[05:01] <Chani> oss? wha? tghat's deprecated, afaik
[05:02] <jester> can somebody help me?
[05:02] <_kuja_> Chani: not likely, firefox is likely a shell script, in which case you'd have to alter the shell script to open the binary with artsdsp, likely near the last line of said script.
[05:02] <_kuja_> At least, that's the case with Opera
[05:02] <matthew> alsa-oss
[05:02] <_kuja_> jester: Probably
[05:02] <Chani> evil.
[05:02] <matthew> Chani, do you have a solution?
[05:02] <mariano> no sound
[05:02] <mariano> still
[05:02] <jester> i need a good program to make flash videos/games
[05:02] <Chani> I had a game that ran from a script that could be wrapped with artsdsp, sorta, sometimes... it was weird
[05:02] <matthew> mariano, try logging out and back in again.
[05:02] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: The mozilla corp realized that MNG's sucked and decided to incorperate an optional extension to PNG's that would, if the browser supported it, show animation if not then it would show the fist frame of animation statically
[05:03] <Admiral_Chicago> jojay: windows blows at hardware support
[05:03] <mariano> ok
[05:03] <_kuja_> Oh yes, MNG, that thing that never took off
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[05:03] <matthew> Admiral_Chicago, I haven't found that to be true at all.
[05:03] <DaSkreech> I'm not talking about MNG though I'm talking about an extension to PNG
[05:03] <Chani> matthew: nope. I don't use FF any more. but if mariano is using kde, might it be artsd hogging hte soundcard? wouldn't you need to get FF to use artsd?
[05:03] <jester> _kuja_ i need a good program to make flash videos/games
[05:04] <matthew> Chani, I don't really know. I'm just saying what worked for me.
[05:04] <Chani> k
[05:04] <_kuja_> I've no idea if one exists or not jester. I thought that was a proprietary Adobe/macromedia thing.
[05:04] <jester> dang. ill just have to try using wine
[05:05] <mariano> nope, no sound
[05:05] <Chani> mariano: what options does FF have for sound? do you see anything that mentions arts?
[05:05] <Admiral_Chicago> matthew: jojay has laptop. Windows didn't detect his wireless OR ethernet port
[05:05] <_kuja_> systemsettings -> sound system -> hardware, try changing the audio device to alsa?
[05:05] <matthew> mariano, try switching back to "aoss" and logging in and out.
[05:05] <mariano> chani where can I check those options
[05:05] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu detected it
[05:05] <matthew> Admiral_Chicago, oh, ok. I've never really played w/ lappys
[05:06] <Admiral_Chicago> by default i'm broke
[05:06] <matthew> lol, one more reason to use linux
[05:06] <eilker> can i mount my laptops'(xp+suse box) dvd writer to my pc (xp-kubuntu box) . pc and laptop behind a same dsl router. is it possible ?
[05:06] <Chani> mariano: umm... FF must have a settings option somewhere in its menu. I haven't used it in a while
[05:06] <Admiral_Chicago> yea free...
[05:06] <matthew> Admiral_Chicago, yup
[05:07] <jester> banshee won't run. i click the icon for it and it tries to open it, but it doesn't. in terminal it just sits there after "banshee"
[05:07] <jester> any help
[05:07] <matthew> mariano, I cannot help you anymore. sorry.
[05:07] <matthew> no more knowledge available from me. lol
[05:07] <eilker> !wine
[05:07] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:08] <Chani> mariano: whatever it was that matthew was suggesting you set to oss, does that have an arts option?
[05:08] <matthew> Chani, it's an etc, he can set it to anything.
[05:08] <mariano> nop
[05:08] <mariano> e
[05:08] <Chani> mariano: ohh.
[05:08] <matthew> etc == editable text file
[05:08] <Chani> I'm used to going through guis these days :)
[05:09] <matthew> Chani, lol, me too...always good to know what goes on under the hood, though.
[05:09] <mariano> well, i'm switching to alsa under the sound system and logging out
[05:09] <mariano> maybe that will do
[05:10] <jester> banshee won't run. i click the icon for it and it tries to open it, but it doesn't. in terminal it just sits there after "banshee"
[05:10] <jester> any help
[05:10] <mariano> if not, my but is going to have to move back to windows for a while
[05:10] <matthew> mariano, hpe so.
[05:10] <Chani> matthew: true.
[05:10] <mariano> brb
[05:10] <matthew> jester, try killall banshee
[05:10] <matthew> then try to open it again
[05:10] <Chani> mariano: if you're not too attached to FF, why not try the flash website in knoq?
[05:10] <Chani> *konq
[05:11] <_kuja_> Hm, it shouldn't have required him to log out at all, oh well, too late to tell mariano that now.
[05:11] <Chani> argh. my mum is making me shop for my own xmas present
[05:11] <matthew> _kuja_, yeah, now that I think about it, you're right...my bad
[05:11] <matthew> Chani, well, that's good, if you can spend a lot of money...hers, of course
[05:11] <jester> matthew, tried that. it opens the flash screen, but nothing more.
[05:11] <Chani> I'm starting to wonder exactly what settings he's changing...
[05:12] <Chani> mariano: if you're not too attached to FF, why not try the flash website in knoq?
[05:12] <matthew> jester, ok, I'm out of ideas, lol :P
[05:12] <mariano> try what?
[05:12] <Chani> matthew: she doesn't really have much money. both of us are getting money from dad. which makes the whole thing seem rather pointless to me
[05:12] <mariano> knoq?
[05:12] <matthew> Chani,ah, that sucks...
[05:12] <Chani> mariano: typo! meant konq
[05:13] <matthew> konqueror
[05:13] <mariano> konq wont play sound either
[05:13] <VR_> is edgy advised in favor of dapper right now?
[05:14] <DaSkreech> VR_: What do you want in a system?
[05:14] <matthew> mariano, starting to think this is the plugin...
[05:14] <VR_> i want it to work
[05:14] <mariano> well, konq  wont even play the video
[05:14] <matthew> mariano, are you using flash 9 beta or beta 2?
[05:14] <mariano> i've never used  konq
[05:15] <mariano> hm I believe is beta 2
[05:15] <matthew> hmmm...mine works...
[05:15] <mariano> how do I install the plugin into konq
[05:15] <matthew> VR_, what problems are you having?
[05:15] <mariano> that will be fine
[05:15] <matthew> mariano, no idea
[05:15] <matthew> talk to Chani about that
[05:15] <mariano> I just need to be able to play flash videos in  one way or another
[05:15] <DaSkreech> VR_: Dapper
[05:15] <mariano> chani you still in here
[05:15] <jester> matthew, ill try listen instead
[05:16] <VR_> matthew: i cant really put my finger on it. dapper feels more stable somehow, but i like, say, amarok more in edgy
[05:16] <matthew> jester, huh?
[05:16] <DaSkreech> VR_: are you using it as a Desktop?
[05:16] <VR_> DaSkreech: yeah
[05:16] <DaSkreech> VR_: Anything mission critical?
[05:16] <matthew> jester, you may want to give kaffeine a shot.
[05:17] <VR_> DaSkreech: nope
[05:17] <matthew> jester, sudo apt-get install kaffeine
[05:17] <matthew> if you want
[05:17] <ForgeAus> whats the difference?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> VR_: Then edgy :)
[05:17] <matthew> ForgeAus, between what?
[05:17] <compilerwriter> Can anyone tell me if it is possible for me to share a device that is on another Winblows machine in my network or am I going to have to ftp from one box to another?
[05:17] <ForgeAus> dapper vs edgy? it appears the Kubuntu I'm using is edgy
[05:17] <DaSkreech> I think it's nearly as polished as Dapper and the only gotcha is upstart
[05:17] <matthew> ForgeAus, one of the major differences is the upstart system
[05:17] <mariano> Chani hit me up when you're available. Maybe you can hel me set up the flash player on konq
[05:18] <matthew> a new way of loading linux...it's faster. I think
[05:18] <DaSkreech> It will be in Feisty
[05:18] <DaSkreech> as promised :)
[05:18] <matthew> I thought it was in edgy...
[05:18] <jester> matthew, i've got kaffeine. i dont really like the begining page, etc.
[05:18] <matthew> boy, I feel foolish...
[05:18] <_kuja_> Currently upstart is not a major change ... it's just emulating sysvinit
[05:19] <matthew> jester, the beginning page?
[05:19] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: When it is truly upstart will it break sysv?
[05:19] <matthew> jester, you mean the bean?
[05:20] <_kuja_> Break? No, replace, yes? I believe.
[05:20] <jester> matthew, i've got kaffeine. i dont really like the begining page, etc.
[05:20] <Chani> mariano: give me a few mins... I've done flash with konq lotsa times.
[05:20] <matthew> jester, what do you mean?
[05:20] <mariano> thanks man
[05:21] <jester> the page with "Play VCD, Play Audio CD, etc." if there was a way to change this, i might like it more.
[05:22] <_kuja_> Also, some people experience a bit of a speedup in the startup time if they edit a certain line in the /etc/init.d/rc file, by changing the concurrency line to concurrency=shell instead of concurrency=none
[05:22] <_kuja_> I didn't personally see any difference though ...
[05:22] <matthew> jester, if you open a media file, it will automatically begin playing it.
[05:22] <matthew> jester, no beginning page...
[05:22] <matthew> jester, are you saying you don't like having options? lol
[05:23] <jester> i dont know. just like amorok better.
[05:23] <_kuja_> I do believe with regards to kaffeine you can turn off the go tab altogether, if you wanted to
[05:23] <jester> oh, that would be nice
[05:25] <Chani> mariano: ok, I'm bac
[05:25] <mariano> ok
[05:25] <_kuja_> jester, at least you could in dapper, I'm having trouble finding the option in edgy
[05:25] <mariano> i'm ready
[05:25] <Chani> mariano: open konq, go to settings -> configure konqueror
[05:25] <Chani> mariano: scroll down through the stuff on hte left until you find 'plugins'
[05:26] <mariano> k
[05:26] <mariano> there
[05:26] <Chani> click 'scan for new plugins'
[05:26] <mariano> discard or save
[05:26] <Chani> oh?
[05:27] <Chani> discard what?
[05:27] <mariano> discard changes or save
[05:27] <Chani> neither!
[05:27] <Chani> click hte 'plugins' tab just above that button
[05:27] <mariano> ok
[05:27] <Chani> now do you see something under 'netscape plugins'?
[05:28] <mariano> yes
[05:28] <Chani> the libflashplayer thing, right?
[05:28] <mariano> yes
[05:28] <Chani> check hte box for 'use artsdsp...'
[05:28] <Chani> and then save.
[05:28] <mariano> it is checked
[05:29] <mariano> it is already checked
[05:29] <Chani> now try a flash site again
[05:29] <mariano> nothing, no video and no sound
[05:30] <mariano> it just goes black
[05:30] <Chani> ack :(
[05:30] <Chani> huh.
[05:30] <Chani> blackness.. I had that problem when I tried installing hte gpl'd flash plugin as well as the proprietary one
[05:30] <Chani> but, first, what version of kubuntu are you using?
[05:31] <mariano> 6.10
[05:31] <Chani> edgy, right?
[05:31] <mariano> it is kubuntu 6.10 yea, it has the mint package though
[05:31] <Chani> I'm in the middle of a dist-upgrade, so if there are bugs in edgy I wouldn't know
[05:32] <mariano> it suppose to have all the codecs installed
[05:32] <mariano> oh really?
[05:32] <mariano> would you suggest I go back to the previous version?
[05:32] <Chani> I'd suggest going into adept, search for flash; you should find two flash plugins. one gpl and one non-gpl. if the gpl one is installed, remove it
[05:32] <mariano> I have the non free one
[05:33] <intelikey>  /etc/rcS.d/S77winkeys: line 8: killall: command not found      hmmmm psutils procutils ???
[05:33] <Chani> mariano: but do you have only that, or both?
[05:33] <mariano> just that
[05:33] <Chani> mariano: I had the issue when I instaled both
[05:33] <Chani> oh, darn
[05:33] <Chani> you're sure?
[05:33] <mariano> yea, there are other flash players installed though
[05:33] <mariano> gnash
[05:35] <_kuja_> intelikey, how about /usr/bin/killall?
[05:35] <Chani> mariano: I'm running out of ideas :(
[05:35] <compilerwriter> Would someone walk me through a ssh session with one of my other boxes in my home network?
[05:35] <mariano> ok
[05:35] <mariano> its cool
[05:35] <SeanW> Hello Everyone
[05:35] <mariano> I might have to go back to suse or windows
[05:35] <mariano> i've been working on this all weekend
[05:36] <Chani> mariano: I don't *think* the other flash players would interfere...
[05:36] <mariano> i'm backed up on some work
[05:36] <mariano> its cool
[05:36] <Chani> mariano: evil :( flash works for me...
[05:36] <mariano> maybe i'll try the next release of kubuntu
[05:36] <intelikey> _kuja_ what supplies that ?
[05:36] <mariano> lol
[05:36] <Chani> I hope it doesn't break for me after this dist-upgrade :P
[05:36] <mariano> yea! well i'm off
[05:36] <_kuja_> psmisc, I think
[05:36] <Chani> but there's no mention of flash on the known problems list
[05:36] <mariano> thanks for your help man
[05:36] <mariano> :)
[05:37] <intelikey> k
[05:37] <SeanW> Does anyone know why windows won't detect errors on my hdd and installs fine when both ubuntu and kubuntu detect errors?
[05:38] <knapp> Hey guy. I'm trying to do "apt-get build-dep ffmpeg", but when I do I get 'E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/packages.freecontrib.org_plf_dists_edgy-plf_free_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)'
[05:38] <knapp> Anyone know what I can do to fix that?
[05:38] <_kuja_> knapp, that's certainly odd.
[05:39] <the-erm> Has anyone ever had a problem with a computer not booting from cd, even tho the bios clearly has the cd first in the list?
[05:39] <compilerwriter> Hiya _kuja_ your pupils is ready to learn
[05:39] <_kuja_> Teach me oh mighty ssh manual :)
[05:40] <_kuja_> It'll take me a little while to figure out what I'm doing with it I'm sure
[05:40] <lupine_85> knapp: apt-get clean?
[05:40] <knapp> I'll try that
[05:41] <mariano> konq has picture now, but no sound
[05:41] <mariano> lol
[05:41] <mariano> funny
[05:41] <lupine_85> you'll need to apt-get update afterwards
[05:41] <mariano> thats a bit of progress
[05:41] <_kuja_> an apt-get update would help too. I think it said that it was missing the sources file from the repository .. or some such.
[05:41] <knapp> I did apt-get update
[05:41] <knapp> before
[05:41] <knapp> still having that problem, I will try apt-get clean in a sex
[05:41] <knapp> sec*
[05:42] <Chani> mariano: weeeird
[05:42] <Chani> mariano: btw, is this happening with *all* flash stuff from any site?
[05:42] <mariano> yea
[05:42] <mariano> google
[05:42] <mariano> dl.tv
[05:42] <mariano> all thus far
[05:43] <SeanW> Does anyone know why windows won't detect errors on my hdd and installs fine when both ubuntu and kubuntu detect errors?
[05:43] <mariano> well, i'm going to go try to install suse, maybe that will work ok
[05:43] <mariano> i just hate that eternal bootup
[05:43] <lupine_85> mariano: what's the "plugin use artsd" set to?
[05:43] <_kuja_> SeanW: Maybe Windows isn't very smart?
[05:43] <SeanW> it's almost as if ntfs works fine but ext3 wont work
[05:43] <ForgeAus> I wish I had have known it was going to be a 23mb file aptget wanted tho lol
[05:43] <mariano> ah
[05:43] <mariano> let me see
[05:43] <ForgeAus> I prolly need to upgrade my distro
[05:44] <knapp> lupine_85, tried clean still giving the same error. Apt-get update showed some GPG key error.
[05:44] <SeanW> _kuja_: I'd have to agree with you
[05:44] <mariano> under konq
[05:44] <mariano> ?
[05:44] <mariano> lupine i'm kind of lost
[05:44] <mike> Where do i find win32,vlc,mplayer etc?
[05:44] <_kuja_> SeanW: If ext3 won't work, your drive might not be in terribly good shape, who knows. What errors was it giving you?
[05:45] <mariano> I have that use to pipe plugin sound through arts checked
[05:45] <_kuja_> SeanW: if ext3 won't work, and ntfs5 will, perhaps you should try reiser, or jfs, or xfs, or ext2?
[05:45] <SeanW> _kuja_: Installing used to work fine but it jsut stopped working. I used to dual windows and ubuntu but then I had a hal.dll error
[05:45] <lupine_85> knapp: ok, how about sudo apt-cache gencaches ?
[05:45] <lupine_85> mariano: and in kde control panel->sound , is artsd enabled?
[05:45] <SeanW> _kuja_: which do you recommend?
[05:45] <lupine_85> ("KDE Sound System")
[05:45] <_kuja_> I personally use xfs.
[05:45] <lupine_85> I have it enabled with a 1-second turn off
[05:46] <_kuja_> The others work fine though. Keep in mind that ext2 doesn't use journaling.
[05:46] <SeanW> _kuja_: I'll have to check that out. I'll have to manually partition then, won't I?
[05:46] <Chani> SeanW: if your hard drive has issues, maybe you should get a new one before it gets worse?
[05:46] <_kuja_> SeanW: Yeah
[05:46] <mariano> let me check
[05:47] <SeanW> Chani: I would but us poor college kids need food :(
[05:47] <knapp> lupine_85 nope
[05:47] <Chani> SeanW: ahh. :( it not under warranty or anything?
[05:47] <mariano> would arts be enabled if I have checked the  "enable the sound system" box
[05:47] <mariano> it doesnt say arts
[05:47] <SeanW> _kuja_: Thanks for the help
[05:47] <Chani> mariano: yes
[05:47] <lupine_85> same error message?
[05:47] <mariano> but that little box is checked
[05:47] <_kuja_> You could probably pick up a hard drive pretty cheap off of newegg. I think the one I've got is running for about $80
[05:47] <lupine_85> mariano: yep
[05:47] <mariano> ok, it is enabled
[05:47] <knapp> yeah
[05:47] <lupine_85> is anything else using sound at the same time?
[05:47] <SeanW> Chani: I don't think it is anymore. This is the third one though..HP keeps sending me the same kind and they keep going bad
[05:48] <Chani> SeanW: oh dear. umm.. well, it is nearly xmas :)
[05:48] <lupine_85> if anything uses ALSA, artsd can't take control... in which case, you should (probably) tell konq. to stop using it
[05:48] <mariano> nope
[05:48] <lupine_85> knapp: one minute
[05:48] <mariano> but, i'm  pressing the test sound and I get  no sound
[05:48] <Chani> mariano: well, that's bad
[05:48] <mariano> however, I do get sound if I play music on amarok
[05:48] <mariano> or stuff like thats
[05:48] <_kuja_> SeanW: do you need a SATA or an IDE drive, I'll see what I can dig up that's cheap
[05:48] <SeanW> Chani: I'm a music student though so when I get enough money I'll get a mac :) Haha, yeah, christmas it may be but my dad is in between jobs
[05:48] <mike> w32 in kubuntu?
[05:49] <SeanW> _kuja_: I believe it's an IDE but I'm not sure
[05:49] <SeanW> _kuja_: It's an internal 100gig toshiba
[05:49] <_kuja_> 100gig? Probably an IDE drive.
[05:49] <lupine_85> knapp: what were you doing before you broke it? ;)
[05:49] <knapp> :O
[05:50] <lupine_85> personally, I would remove the PLF repo at this point and try to update again
[05:50] <knapp> I don't know. I haven't issued a build-dep in awhile
[05:51] <Chani> mariano: maybe try disabling hte sound system, clicking apply, then enabling it again? iirc that should restart artsd. worth a try
[05:51] <mariano> true
[05:51] <mariano> let me try
[05:51] <mariano> still no sound
[05:51] <_kuja_> SeanW: how about this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148095
[05:52] <SeanW> wow, that is cheap
[05:52] <RoKFiT> i'm having a problem.  I'm suffering from audio popping and I've installed a new COMPATABLE sound card and the issue persists!
[05:52] <knapp> lupine_85, I'll give it a shot. If it doesn't work I will have to figure this one out tomorrow. Thank you for the help.
[05:52] <SeanW> _kuja_: I was saving for a violin but I guess this takes precidence, huh..haha
[05:53] <SeanW> _kuja_: I forgot to mention im on an hp pavilion notebook, but thanks for the help :) I'll keep looking. I'm going to try to find toshiba's disk tools
[05:53] <_kuja_> ohhhhhhhh
[05:53] <_kuja_> You forgot to mention it was a notebook ...
[05:53] <SeanW> haha, yeah, my bad
[05:54] <SeanW> makes things a tad more expensive
[05:54] <SeanW> I have a 250gig external though
[05:54] <goodthing> DaSkreech: are you there? I now installer dapper and attached the disk afterwards, it behaves differently with on thing worth mentioning: when i put one of the maxtor specific at SATA3 it boots BUT my passwrd to login always fails.(!) When i disconnect that disk, my passwrd is working again.
[05:54] <DaSkreech> really?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> How does it fail?
[05:55] <goodthing> yeah 100%
[05:55] <goodthing> it says my passwrd is wrong, just that
[05:55] <goodthing> and when i switch the disk, i have another error
[05:55] <goodthing> with more output that is
[05:55] <goodthing> i will upload it
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Ah Ok
[05:56] <matthew> !pastebin
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[05:56] <DaSkreech>  I had someone today who said every time they puti nteh password the computer rebooted
[05:56] <matthew> !pastebin | goodthing
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[05:56] <matthew> DaSkreech, did that ever get resolved?
[05:56] <_kuja_> SeanW: It would really help to know if it was UltraATA 100 or ATA-6, here's an UltraATA 100 laptop drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144375
[05:57] <Chani> SeanW: I strongly suggest you find somewhere to back up your important data :) there must be free webspace around... and usb keys are pretty cheap now
[05:57] <DaSkreech> matthew: Don't know I had to leave as did londo4
[05:57] <matthew> DaSkreech, that sucks
[05:57] <Chani> my friend kept losing stuff 'cause he was working on a damaged hard drive
[05:57] <matthew> DaSkreech, any progress made?
[05:57] <SeanW> Chani: Yeah, i have it backed up on my external drive :)
[05:57] <matthew> Mine too
[05:57] <DaSkreech> I gave an alternative to login which I hope helped
[05:58] <goodthing> DaSkreech: http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/2601/1000992nz0.jpg (sorry, is big)
[05:58] <_kuja_> SeanW: Here's the "equivalent" ATA-6: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144378
[05:58] <matthew> goodthing, that is about ugly.
[05:59] <matthew> goodthing, is that the camera or the screen?
[05:59] <SeanW> _kuja_: Thanks.. I'll bookmark those. I'm looking on hp.com to find out which I have
[06:01] <goodthing> matthew: i know, it's a bad camera which ghosts very fast when you only move a little, and i needed to be fast because of batteries.
[06:01] <_kuja_> That was about the cheapest UltraAta-100, but you can probably go cheaper with the ATA-6 drives if you wanted to, down to about $30
[06:01] <matthew> goodthing, oh, ok...
[06:01] <Jucato> is there any other way, besides fdisk, to determine what filesystem a partition is formatted in?
[06:01] <matthew> goodthing, I've had this happen to me as well...can't remember the problem...lol
[06:01] <intelikey> SeanW will lshw not tell you ?
[06:01] <goodthing> matthew: i only just noticed it though, i took the picture and continued, but i can take it again if needed
[06:01] <matthew> Jucato, cfdisk
[06:01] <_kuja_> Jucato, how about parted? :)
[06:01] <Chani> Jucato: I prefer cfdisk to fdisk
[06:02] <Jucato> ok I'll check. thanks! :)
[06:02] <matthew> goodthing, nope, I don't care...it's readable, but I can't help you with it...sorry
[06:02] <goodthing> the same config on edgy gives another output http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7992/1000991xj9.jpg
[06:02] <SeanW> intelikey: I just run that in windows command prompt?
[06:02] <matthew> Jucato, it's already installed on your system
[06:02] <Chani> oh boy. the dist-upgrade is finally installing stuff...
[06:02] <Jucato> thanks
[06:02] <bLaZeD> !newsgroup
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[06:03] <intelikey> Jucato fdisk wont tell you the fs type   only what the partition is marked as.   mount will tell the fs type
[06:03] <intelikey> SeanW sorry.  no i don't think windows has that.
[06:03] <matthew> Chani, wow, the dist-upgrade worked? lol, mine hosed my computer
[06:03] <Jucato> well, it's not yet mounted... so...
[06:03] <_kuja_> goodthing, you know it's a badthing if it's dropping you back to busybox. Like ugly bad.
[06:03] <SeanW> intelikey: Yeah, I didn't recognize that command
[06:03] <Chani> matthew: it's still going. hasn't worked *yet*
[06:03] <goodthing> so it is weird, not to mention that i cannot find the first partition in /media/sda1 after i just have installed the whole system there
[06:04] <Jucato> hm... cfdisk...
[06:04] <Chani> 355mb free on the kubuntu partition :(
[06:04] <Chani> I really need to switch to LVM
[06:04] <matthew> Chani, good luck...hope you backed up your stuff...If you have to reinstall, I would make a seperate partition for your /home...that way, whenever you install a new ubuntu, all your data is still there...
[06:04] <intelikey> Jucato again cfdisk only reads the partition info  not the actual fs.
[06:05] <goodthing> _kuja_: well, it only happens when i use three disks, and one of the three need specific on a SATA connector
[06:05] <Chani> matthew: I backed up the entire partition to some free space :)
[06:05] <knapp> Anyone here know how I can add a codec to ffmpeg? For instance when I try to encode it says "Unknown codec aac"
[06:05] <goodthing> but the passwrd thing is even more weird
[06:05] <_kuja_> goodthing, did you have any problems like this in dapper?
[06:05] <goodthing> yeah, this IS dapper
[06:05] <Chani> matthew: and I have a gentoo partition on this comp, I can boot that if anything goes really wrong
[06:05] <matthew> Chani...hope it works, lol
[06:06] <_kuja_> oh, it is, then how about edgy?
[06:06] <goodthing> i' ve just gone back from edgy
[06:06] <matthew> Chani, that's good
[06:06] <_kuja_> Hmm, neither works eh? (sorry, I'm trying to get up to speed, but I still don't know all that has gone awry)
[06:06] <Chani> goodthing: gone back? why?
[06:06] <Jucato> intelikey: oh ok... see, my problem is this. I format /dev/hdb8 initially as FAT32 during the installation. then I reformatted it using QtParted to ext3, but when I fdisk'ed it, it still said FAT32. I used mkfs.ext3 on it, and still the same result...
[06:07] <_kuja_> Chani, there's the good, the bad, and the ugly. I'd say that goodthing's problem is the latter.
[06:07] <intelikey> Jucato yes that's common.  you can change the partition information if you use cfdisk and just change the type
[06:07] <goodthing> well, almost the same, the difference are those two URL' s to imageshack in one config(place hard disks) and in the other config edgy just sits and waits on "Waiting for root file system..."
[06:08] <Chani> ah bugger, I got the perl warning about setting locale failed
[06:08] <Jucato> intelikey: um.... you're familiar with cfdisk?
[06:08] <goodthing> Chani: just to test, i was testing anyways
[06:08] <intelikey> yes
[06:08] <Chani> and now...
[06:09] <Jucato> intelikey: ok, I changed the partition type to 83 (Linux). what do I do to make that change stick? (if I choose quit, it doesn't save the changes...)
[06:09] <intelikey> write
[06:09] <Chani> dpkg: libgl1-mesa: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request:
[06:09] <Chani> this worries me
[06:09] <Jucato> intelikey: it won't affect the other partitions?
[06:10] <Chani> mplayer, amarok and neverball all depend on that
[06:10] <matthew> roflmao @ Chani ....in a nice way
[06:10] <intelikey> Jucato no only what you change.
[06:10] <Jucato> ok thanks :)
[06:10] <_kuja_> Then I wouldn't recommend removing it, chani
[06:10] <intelikey> np
[06:10] <robotgeek> how do keybindings work with kubuntu?
[06:11] <Chani> _kuja_: too late! apt only told me about this as it was removing it!
[06:11] <goodthing> i guess the only thing i can really do is backup my data from the two maxtors on the new disk, wipe the maxtors and put them in RAID1. It is just to hope that will work out OK
[06:11] <_kuja_> reinstall it?
[06:11] <Jucato> intelikey: heh I'm always scared for those kind of stuff (partitioning/formatting)
[06:11] <Chani> _kuja_: I have to wait for the dist-upgrade to complete
[06:11] <_kuja_> Chani: Fun
[06:11] <intelikey> Jucato yes and for good reason
[06:11] <Jucato> :)
[06:12] <Chani> ohhh how I miss portage.
[06:12] <goodthing> btw, anyone wrote down my problem?
[06:12] <goodthing> i think it problem is the motherbord but who knows
[06:12] <Jucato> anyway... time for lunch!!! :)
[06:13] <shawn_home> abattoir?
[06:13] <shawn_home> 06:50  abattoir  Linux_Galore: work on kxdocker has stopped, i agree, but that's because stefano is working on XQDocker(for Qt/KDE4) ?
[06:13] <_kuja_> goodthing, it probably is a motherboard problem, sounds like one anyway
[06:13] <shawn_home> so where's the code for XQDocker? :)
[06:13] <shawn_home> cause there's no working docker :(
[06:13] <abattoir> i just got back
[06:13] <shawn_home> abattoir: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/kubuntu-2006-09-24.html
[06:13] <robotgeek> hmm, where is the xmodmap file that kubuntu uses located?
[06:14] <shawn_home> looking for something and tripped this on google ;)
[06:14] <abattoir> shawn_home: yes, i remember that clearly :)
[06:14] <abattoir> no need to refer to the logs
[06:14] <shawn_home> kxdocker 1.1.4 a i have working on ubuntu/debian, but its badly weird
[06:14] <shawn_home> im surprised it runs even
[06:14] <shawn_home> with all the plugins needed
[06:14] <RoKFiT> hello can anyone help me?  I'm getting audio popping on a freshly installed sound card!
[06:15] <shawn_home> abattoir: so whats a good macos X docker for ubuntu? that works? :)
[06:15] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, that's odd, does it do it when you're running the livecd too?
[06:15] <abattoir> shawn_home: are you running KDE4? :)
[06:15] <shawn_home> ksmoothdock chokes with compiz/beryl
[06:15] <dettoaltrimenti> I deleted kdewallet, but Kopete still asks me for the kdewallet password every time I start it- how can I keep this from happening?
[06:15] <abattoir> shawn_home: i use kxdocker and it works for me
[06:15] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: yes.
[06:15] <intelikey> hmmmm oooops i think i just set my hardware clock to local time...
[06:15] <shawn_home> abattoir: not yet, although i have the svn checked out
[06:15] <abattoir> shawn_home: hmm, i've heard a lot of kibadock, but i can't try it myself
[06:15] <shawn_home> kxdocker works but its not configurable easily
[06:15] <abattoir> (as i don't have beryl running)
[06:15] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, does it do it with other speakers?
[06:15] <RoKFiT> i need a fix
[06:15] <RoKFiT> i'm using headphones, and yes
[06:15] <shawn_home> i have kibadock packages for ubuntu/deb, but it doesnt have task manager support
[06:15] <shawn_home> so its lacking
[06:16] <Chani> dettoaltrimenti: *deleted*?
[06:16] <_kuja_> What was that other docker I heard of, kooldock?
[06:16] <Chani> dettoaltrimenti: that sounds bad.
[06:16] <RoKFiT> _kuja_: yes it does it with other headphones
[06:16] <shawn_home> kooldock with composite == broken
[06:16] <Chani> dettoaltrimenti: I believe there was a way to tell kopete not to store passwords in the wallet. just don't remember where
[06:16] <shawn_home> so let's see: ksmoothdock, kibiadock, kxdocker, cairo-dock (works, but its 0.0.1b), kooldock..
[06:17] <shawn_home> so far.. nothing stable / usable :(
[06:17] <_kuja_> RoKFiT, hmmmm, Well, that's just lurvely. I've really no idea though.
[06:17] <shawn_home> cairo-dock lacks functionality but it works
[06:17] <goodthing> _kuja_: hmm, maybe just RMA the board, and let the shop take care of it?
[06:17] <shawn_home> did I miss any? :)
[06:17] <abattoir> heh
[06:17] <knapp> Anyone here know how I can add a codec to ffmpeg? For instance when I try to encode it says "Unknown codec aac"
[06:18] <shawn_home> abattoir: im stuck with none ;/
[06:18] <abattoir> shawn_home: i compile kxdocker(with all the plugins) from source
[06:18] <shawn_home> kxdocker 1.1.4a works. but its pissy with configuration in gui
[06:18] <_kuja_> goodthing: I'm thinking it's the model of the board, not a problem with that specific board.
[06:18] <shawn_home> abattoir: I have packages build (checkinstall) for the plugins
[06:18] <shawn_home> built
[06:18] <shawn_home> have to hack some code to add the missing headers for each one
[06:18] <abattoir> ok, then i guess you'll have to get used to the gui :(
[06:19] <shawn_home> it needs a good overhaul anyway, a -dev- package for one thing
[06:19] <shawn_home> total debianization needed
[06:19] <_kuja_> shawn_home, if they do choke with compiz/beryl, maybe they werne't designed to work with it?
[06:19] <intelikey> abattoir blasphemy
[06:19] <shawn_home> kxdocker has a patch for composite, which helps. but kxdocker doesnt work with xinerama and screens
[06:19] <abattoir> intelikey: used to 'the' gui, not get used to gui :)
[06:19] <shawn_home> it seems to only want to be on the wrong screen (#2)
[06:20] <abattoir> intelikey: meaning, kxdocker's configurator
[06:20] <intelikey> oh  ok mybad.
[06:20] <shawn_home> that configurator is.. horrid :(
[06:20] <intelikey> wheeew !
[06:20] <shawn_home> whats all this raw object stuff
[06:20] <intelikey> :)
[06:20] <ubuntu> Hey all, It's SeanW again
[06:20] <ubuntu> _kuja_: Hey kuja
[06:20] <shawn_home> totally unuserfriendly (new word)
[06:21] <_kuja_> Hi there ubuntu
[06:21] <ubuntu> _kuja_: I booted with the kubuntu live cd
[06:21] <_kuja_> or are you saying ubuntu = SeanW?
[06:21] <ubuntu> _kuja_: it's SeanW, the one.yeah
[06:21] <_kuja_> okie dokie
[06:21] <shawn_home> so where's this new code for http://xqde.xiaprojects.com/  xqde?
[06:21] <shawn_home> i just see a webpage ;)
[06:21] <goodthing> _kuja_: so RMA will only do me good if i can get another type board which also can come with problems, o boy... and then i bought the disk at a shop who thinks it's normal to send used TFT's back as a replacement when you RMA. Even this board was already RMA' ed and used before i got it :(
[06:22] <shawn_home> abattoir: I know his english isn't very good :(
[06:22] <_kuja_> shawn_home, google doesn't want to give an answer :(
[06:22] <goodthing> used TFT with scratches too
[06:22] <abattoir> shawn_home: i agree... but his code seems better :P
[06:22] <shawn_home> neat 'you will noticed by bouncing mail icon when you receive new mails!'
[06:23] <abattoir> shawn_home: you'll probably see some code when kde4 is getting ready for release
[06:23] <RoKFiT> is it possible to install a windows codec for amarok?
[06:23] <ubuntu> _kuja_: I wonder if I can use some student loans for a mackbook pro...haha
[06:23] <shawn_home> abattoir: his code is ok, the gui isn't nor the XML mess :(
[06:23] <ubuntu> _kuja_: I'll have to pay it back eventually with interest though
[06:23] <shawn_home> abattoir: im not sure what he is trying to do :)
[06:23] <intelikey> !codecs | RoKFiT
[06:23] <ubotu> RoKFiT: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats