[01:39] <RememberPOL> So, I'm using alberto milone's bleeding edge nvidia driver repository... and something weird just happened. My laptop froze and upon restarting, x complained about some nvidia module version mismatch so I removed nvidia-kernel-commond, removed nvidia-glx, installed nvidia-kernel-common, installed nvidia-glx, and now x is complaining it can't load the NVIDIA module because of some missing module it's trying to load "wfb", even though th
[01:41] <RememberPOL> http://rafb.net/p/GEjYlC82.txt
[03:16] <abzde> i'm not totally sure if this should be here, or in the fluxbox channel, but, i've used firefox as my only webbrowser up until today, i go and install mozilla, and it becomes the default browser, firefox is still default if i'm in xfce, but if i'm in fluxbox mozilla is default... any idea's why?
[03:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> If you set firefox to be the default in the Fluxbox environment, does it ignore that setting?
[03:22] <jdrake> I keep having thunar crash when I try to get properties of a trash item
[03:45] <kalikiana_> jdrake, still there?
[03:45] <jdrake> yes
[03:45] <kalikiana_> I had that, too and Benedikt told me how to fix it: update your mp3tags plugin.
[03:47] <jdrake> So you are saying that a plugin is allowed to crash the file manager?
[03:47] <Sharn> Rofl. It doesn't have to be allowed.
[03:48] <kalikiana_> jdrake, Actually the plugin does not work with Thunar 0.8, just update it
[03:49] <jdrake> So I can compile the thing and it will work?
[03:49] <kalikiana_> yes
[03:53] <jdrake> When I switch applications it seems to take a long delay to switch, like from xchat to firefox or a terminal takes easily 500 to 1000ms to completely be ready to use
[03:56] <jdrake> yep, that seems to fix it
[03:56] <jdrake> Any way of getting properties of multiple items?
[04:09] <tripppy>  how do i setup a program to start on startup?
[04:23] <cellofellow> tripppy: put it in the dialog in Applications -> Settings -> Autostarted...
[04:25] <tripppy> i want to autostart Krfb. can i just type that in or does it need to link to the DIR its installed in?
[04:29] <cellofellow> just krfb should work
[04:34] <kalikiana_> jdrake, nope, no properties of multiple files; try pcmanfm if you need that ;)
[04:34] <jdrake> pcmanfm?
[04:35] <kalikiana_> jdrake, it's similar to Thunar, with some differences: http://pcmanfm.sourceforge.net/
[04:36] <kalikiana_> I don't like it as much, so it depends on your usage
[04:36] <tripppy> cellofellow, no it didnt. dang it
[04:36] <cellofellow> well, maybe /usr/bin/krfb
[04:36] <cellofellow> or something like that
[04:36] <tripppy> kk
[06:10] <cryosphere> i have a bizzare problem: my computer on which I recently installed xubuntu will fail to recognize USD devices and connect to the internet(recognize my ethernet card?) 9 out of 10 times I turn it on
[06:14] <jdrake> USD ~= USB?
[06:14] <cryosphere> right
[06:14] <cryosphere> sorry
[06:14] <jdrake> Does dmesg show anything interesting?
[06:15] <maxamillion> cryosphere: open a terminal and type "ifconfig" and tell me if there is something like "eth0" listed?
[06:15] <jdrake> Or infact can you post the dmesg output
[06:15] <maxamillion> !pastebin
[06:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:15] <cryosphere> well now there would be
[06:15] <maxamillion> post it there
[06:15] <cryosphere> and before also
[06:15] <cryosphere> AAH,
[06:15] <cryosphere> no only eht1
[06:15] <cryosphere> *eth1
[06:16] <maxamillion> cryosphere: you have two ethernet devices or is it a laptop with wifi?
[06:16] <jdrake> As for usb, have you tried the irqpoll kernel option by chance?  I have to do that personally on my RS200 system.
[06:16] <cryosphere> laptop with wifi
[06:16] <maxamillion> cryosphere: you need it to do ethernet at the moment?
[06:16] <cryosphere> well the frustrating thing is that I dont do anything to make it work
[06:16] <cryosphere> just keep rebooting it until all USB devices work and I able to connect to the internet
[06:17] <cryosphere> max: yes I do need ethernet to be here
[06:17] <maxamillion> cryosphere: well it sounds to me like (with the internet issue) that the wireless card is just taking over ... so do "sudo ifup eth0" and then "sudo dhclient eth0"
[06:19] <cryosphere> well, let me find the address to an extended pastebin about this
[06:22] <cryosphere> http://www.pastebin.ca/361526
[06:22] <cryosphere> go to line 144
[06:25] <cryosphere> how can I tell if eth1 corresponds to my wireless card
[06:25] <maxamillion> cryosphere: ok ... looks like it functions
[06:25] <maxamillion> cryosphere: uhmmm... not sure actually, i have always just known which was which
[06:26] <istill316> HEEEY
[06:27] <cryosphere> but this is not an isolated issue of connecting to the internet, but a larger issue that affects both ability to communicate with USB devices and the dsl modem
[06:27] <maxamillion> istill316: hello
[06:27] <cryosphere> unless not being able to communicate to the modem somehow disables my USB ports .. . . :)
[06:28] <istill316> hey hey
[06:28] <istill316> linux doesn't like me :(
[06:28] <maxamillion> cryosphere: i don't see why your ethernet would affect your usb
[06:28] <maxamillion> istill316: not true, linux likes everyone
[06:28] <istill316> then why won't it play my videos right?
[06:29] <maxamillion> istill316: do you have the codecs installed?
[06:29] <cryosphere> max: right so it has to be a larger issue that includes those two
[06:29] <istill316> as far as I know
[06:29] <maxamillion> istill316: video drivers?
[06:29] <istill316> they all appear washed-out though
[06:29] <maxamillion> cryosphere: hardware problem maybe?
[06:29] <maxamillion> istill316: what player you using?
[06:30] <istill316> at the moment, kaffeine, but I get the same results with the other 5 players I tried
[06:30] <cryosphere> max: i think it has to be
[06:31] <cryosphere> max: IF fact a if you read that pastebin
[06:32] <cryosphere> max: around the time this nonsense started a msg started displaying" Unrecognized memory module . .  may effect stability, Press Esc to continue and its still there ever time I restart/turn on my computer
[06:32] <cryosphere> however windows seems to be ok  . . .
[06:32] <maxamillion> istill316: yeah ... i honestly wouldn't know, i don't do much media stuffs
[06:32] <cryosphere> its a dual-boot btw
[06:33] <istill316> k :\
[06:33] <maxamillion> cryosphere: you run memtest86+ on your machine to see if in fact there is a bad module? ... windows tends to be able to ignore bad memory up to a certain point of failure
[06:34] <cryosphere> i think i have something like that in the boot menu
[06:34] <cryosphere> or is that something I can run right now in the terminal
[06:35] <maxamillion> no, it has to be run either off the live cd or from the boot menu, it can't run in a host OS because the host OS will be doing memory management and the program will not be able to affectively check it
[06:35] <maxamillion> it == the ram
[06:36] <cryosphere> ok, so Im pretty sure I have a bad module - do you think just replacing the ram will do it?
[06:36] <maxamillion> probably
[06:36] <maxamillion> strange things happen when you have bad ram
[06:36] <Sharn> Stupid livecds.
[06:37] <cryosphere> ok, well thanks, i makes sense to me that this is hardware thing
[06:37] <maxamillion> Sharn: ?
[06:37] <maxamillion> cryosphere: :)
[06:37] <cryosphere> and I really dont want to blow money on new laptop
[06:38] <cryosphere> i should read something about bad memory modules and linux
[06:38] <maxamillion> cryosphere: yeah ... money is a horrible thing to waste
[06:39] <cryosphere> esp when i can make this crappy emachine run pretty well under linux
[06:39] <maxamillion> :)
[06:42] <Sharn> maxamillion: My friend gets an error trying to boot the LiveCD. He's never used linux before, so he can't give a very detailed description either.
[06:42] <maxamillion> :(
[06:55] <istill316> I'm getting an error during some package installation:
[06:55] <istill316>  perl -MCPAN -e 'shell'
[06:56] <istill316> oopos not that
[06:56] <istill316> Use of uninitialized value in join or string at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Stack.pm line 104, <GEN4> line 4.
[06:57] <Jester45> at line 104 of stack.pm it looks like you have used an uninitialized value
[06:57] <istill316> thanks :P
[06:57] <Jester45> :)
[07:33] <cryosphere> how would i use syslog to track down a possible irq problem
[08:26] <kalikiana> http://www.daniweb.com/techtalkforums/thread19266.html
[08:27] <cryosphere> if someone want to help, I compared the log between the good and the bad boot at http://www.pastebin.ca/361614, i just grepped for some key words
[09:30] <tripppy> how do i browse windows samba shares?
[09:57] <kalikiana> tripppy, either fusesmb or pyNeighborhood
[09:58] <tripppy> kalikiana, thankx
[09:58] <kalikiana> :)
[11:25] <blizz> is there already a fix for that bcm43xx wireless problem in 2.6.20-8 kernels?
[11:25] <blizz> i downloaded a 4.x firmware from openwrt but it doesnt seem to work
[11:26] <danboid> Hi!
[11:26] <blizz> hiho
[11:27] <kalikiana> hi
[11:27] <danboid> Is it not possible to delete icons from the xfce desktop without using Thunar?
[11:28] <kalikiana> danboid, What do you mean exactly? You should be able to delete file icons via the context menu..
[11:30] <danboid> Thats strange- it seems to be working fine now. Didn't last time I tried
[11:30] <danboid> :D
[11:31] <kalikiana> :)
[11:33] <danboid> The xfce menu editor in xubuntu 6.10 doesn't display any of the entries except for the quit and settings sub-menu. How do I edit all the other sub-menus (Accessories, Graphics, Multimedia etc etc)
[11:34] <danboid> or are they strictly auto-generated?
[11:35] <gpocentek> they are generated using the .desktop files sitting in /usr/share/applications
[11:36] <danboid> so I just delete/add files from there then? Can you not do this from the menu editor?
[11:37] <gpocentek> you need to add/remove files
[11:40] <danboid> I'm very happy with xubuntu overall, there is just one thing missing that I liked about nautilus and konq and that is that they both had image resizing (imagemagick) plugins. I don't suppose i can get something similar for thunar or does anyone know of a standalone graphical batch image resizing tool?
[11:41] <gpocentek> gimp :)
[11:42] <danboid> Yes, gimp has a batch resizing plugin but it didn't work last time I tried it
[11:42] <kalikiana> danboid, you might try gqview or mirage if you want quick images edits
[11:43] <kalikiana> oh, it's batch resizing mainly? then gimp is probably the tool of choice :P
[11:45] <danboid> as i say gimp doesn't work for that, unfortunately
[11:45] <danboid> unless a new version of the resizing plugin got released recently
[11:53] <danboid> anyone here using feisty?
[11:54] <blizz> yes
[11:55] <blizz> ff herd4 with that 2.6.20-8 kernel which has crappy support for most bcm43xx cards *turns crazy*
[11:57] <danboid> have you tried using hibernate under feisty? It works fine for me under Edgy except for the fact that USB doesn't work after booting up from hibernation and it requires I boot normally to get USB working again
[11:57] <danboid> most of the time
[11:58] <blizz> hmpf, for mod in ehci_hcd ohci_hcd; do rmmod $mod; modprobe $mod; done ;-)
[11:59] <danboid> let me try
[12:00] <danboid> so i tried pasting
[12:00] <danboid> for mod in ehci_hcd ohci_hcd; do rmmod $mod; modprobe $mod
[12:01] <danboid> into a root terminal but all I get is a '>'
[12:01] <danboid> Wrong shell maybe? I pasted it into Terminal?
[12:03] <danboid> I know nothing of shell scripting, as you can tell
[12:05] <danboid> Doing "modprobe ehci_hcd; modprobe ohci_hcd" didn't fix it either so a reboot it is I think
[12:07] <danboid> Suppose I'll just have to give up thar quick hibernate boot until this gets sorted out as having to reboot normaly to get USB working defeats the whole point
[12:08] <kalikiana> danboid, try "for mod in ehci_hcd ohci_hcd; do rmmod $mod; modprobe $mod; done"
[12:08] <kalikiana> but I'm no shellscript pro either :/
[12:11] <danboid> That has caused my Terminal to enter limbo. I can still click on its menus but the command isn't finishing and CTRL+C is having no effect :(
[12:11] <danboid> so I've just closed it
[12:12] <danboid> it was a good idea tho, thanks
[12:18] <kalikiana> danboid, I'm sorry that it made your Terminal freak out, I only remembered that done belongs to for loops
[12:43] <Ramla> Anybody know if there's a panel plugin or similar to start/stop screensaver daemon?
[12:47] <Ramla> And, while I'm at it.. It seems xscreensaver is not installed on my system, but yet there seems to be something that does monitor powersaving, just wondering what it might be
[12:54] <tripppy> Ramla, i just did a xscreensaver-demo
[12:54] <tripppy> and turned it off
[12:58] <Ramla> Hmm.. this is akward, when i watch a dvd with totem my monitor powers off every 30 minutes, and trying to find / make a plugin or a script to turn it off I don't even know what I should be turning off
[12:59] <tripppy> settings - settings manager
[12:59] <tripppy> screen saver
[12:59] <tripppy> n
[12:59] <tripppy> blank after 2hrs
[02:10] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:55] <Prisoner_> hi
[03:56] <fijam> hello
[03:57] <Prisoner_> you running xubuntu?
[03:57] <fijam> certainly
[03:58] <Prisoner_> I'm finally going to get it installed on my main box either tomorrow or Tuesday
[03:58] <fijam> That's great
[03:58] <Prisoner_> I finished partitioning the drive last night
[03:58] <Prisoner_> going to set up a dual boot with XP
[03:59] <Prisoner_> set up separate partitions for swap, ext3, and a FAT32 partition to share files with WIndows
[04:02] <Prisoner_> I basically don't think I want to deal with Windows Vista when they pull support for XP
[04:02] <fijam> true
[04:03] <Prisoner_> I've been running Xubuntu on my old 400mhz machine and it seems to run OK
[04:03] <Prisoner_> my main machine is a 1.583GHZ with 512mb RAM, sure it'll run great on that
[04:03] <fijam> Sure thing. I am currently also on Celeron 400
[04:04] <Prisoner_> my 400mhz is AMDK6 based with 384mb RAM
[04:04] <Prisoner_> I did find a problem though, XFburn doesn't want to burn a CDROM from an .iso file
[04:05] <Prisoner_> I loaded K3B on the machine and that solved the problem
[04:53] <jdrake> I have had a problem twice yesterday where thunar got stuck in a drag and drop operation and I couldn't cancel it.  Any other ways to fix this?
[05:08] <killerk> hello everone
[05:09] <killerk> i am in need of help, i have a Netgear MA521 Wireless card but have no clue how to install it
[05:09] <killerk> can someone help me
[05:10] <jdrake> ndiswrapper would be a good start
[05:10] <jdrake> It willl wrap the windows driver that is provided with the card.
[05:10] <jdrake> It is not fool proof mind you.
[05:10] <jdrake> I have had only good luck with it when using the latest version. But that was many months ago.
[05:11] <ssbm> but i was reading online and it says that they have an official linux driver for my chipset
[05:11] <ssbm> RealTek 8180L
[05:11] <jdrake> ok, good luck with it :P
[05:11] <jdrake> If ifconfig shows your card then luck you.
[05:12] <ssbm> the thing is i have no clue how to do anything
[05:12] <ssbm> where do i start
[05:12] <ssbm> install driver first? or what
[05:12] <jdrake> Does ifconfig show anything
[05:12] <ssbm> what do i do, go into terminal and type ifconfig?
[05:13] <ssbm> on their website they have an official driver for it, but i dont know which kernel xubuntu uses?
[05:15] <ssbm> also i currently have not installed xubuntu on the system with the wireless card, i just want instructions on how to do it so that way when i do install it i know how to get internet
[05:15] <jdrake> yes you want to type ifconfig
[05:16] <ssbm> if it shows up what do i do?
[05:16] <jdrake> The plain truth here: If it has a driver for it (that is a native kernel driver) then it would be included and automatically detected. If not, then it might be in the restricted modules package. Otherwise you would use ndiswrapper.
[05:16] <jdrake> I honestly do not remember how to configure them beyond that, the laptop I set uses FreeBSD which is a different setup.
[05:17] <ssbm> o
[05:17] <jdrake> I did manage to get it setup on linux, but it was painful.
[05:17] <ssbm> so your saying if an official driver for it exists then i should just be able to plug it in and use it?
[05:17] <jdrake> right
[05:17] <ssbm> ok
[05:17] <ssbm> well ill give it a try
[05:17] <jdrake> I don't know if ubuntu comes with handy things for network configuration like that.
[05:18] <jdrake> However, there was a nice applet you might want to find. I have to look up the name.
[05:18] <ssbm> what about xubuntu?
[05:18] <jdrake> 'Network Manager' I believe it was called.
[05:19] <ssbm> does that come with xubuntu?
[05:19] <jdrake> Mainly with 'ubuntu' itself, but there is no reason why the gnome or kde frontend wouldn't work with xfce.
[05:20] <jdrake> I believe it puts an icon in the system tray
[05:20] <jdrake> yes, it even says it will work
[05:20] <jdrake> network-manager-gnome is the package
[05:20] <ssbm> does xubuntu come with a package manager like synaptic
[05:21] <ssbm> cause i would be able to install it through there right?
[05:22] <jdrake> It uses synaptic
[05:22] <jdrake> and yes
[05:22] <ssbm> also which do u reccommend for an old system, xubuntu, or ubuntu or whatever other versions of ubuntu there are?
[05:22] <ssbm> this is a really old system im gonna install it on
[05:23] <ssbm> P III Processor
[05:23] <jdrake> What speed
[05:23] <jdrake> How much ram
[05:23] <ssbm> i am pretty sure 128mb of ram
[05:23] <ssbm> but it might be less
[05:24] <ssbm> i bareley ever use it since currently it has xp on it and whenever i try to do something it freezes, which is the reason why i want to use xubuntu because i heard it runs better on older machines
[05:25] <jdrake> yes you want xubuntu, but I would highly recommend upgrading the ram.
[05:25] <ssbm> well its a laptop, so its really hard to upgrade
[05:25] <jdrake> 256mb or better is what I personally recommend. It might be usable otherwise, but no guarantees.
[05:26] <jdrake> Make sure you have a good 512mb or more of swap space.
[05:26] <ssbm> on the xubuntu website they say it can run with only 64mb of ram
[05:26] <jdrake> Also - perform a memory test, it might not be windows' fault it is freezing.
[05:26] <ssbm> im pretty sure its my display driver
[05:26] <jdrake> They can say anything they want, I can't contradict them as i have no tried it. I just know how easily it ran on a P2-400 with 640mb of ram compared with 128mb.
[05:27] <jdrake> 128mb was slow, 640mb was perfectly usable
[05:27] <ssbm> because every time it freezes after a while the screen resolution will shrink and it say that that the display driver stopped working
[05:28] <jdrake> interesting
[05:28] <jdrake> Have you downloaded and burned xubuntu yet?
[05:28] <jdrake> If  not, I recommend you get the 'alternative' cd, I always use that one because of its low memory requirements.
[05:29] <ssbm> yea i am downloading the alternate cd right now
[05:29] <ssbm> its almost done
[05:31] <jdrake> Very good, I am going to prepare some Red River Cereal for Breakfast now.
[05:32] <ssbm> lol ok
[05:41] <ssbm> thanks for your help
[06:01] <BrendanM> So when I try to log in, I just immediately get kicked back to the login screen. Suggestions?
[06:03] <Montrose> Excuse me, I know this isn't a handheld chat, but are there any alternative (To Windows) OS systems for an iPAQ other than Familiar project (I don't have the knowledge to make it work, and support ... isn't as good as support for Xubuntu, heh.)?
[06:04] <grazie> BrendanM: Do you not get any messages?
[06:05] <BrendanM> None
[06:05] <BrendanM> I was able to log in as root from recovery mode
[06:05] <BrendanM> I get the spinning wheel loading symbol, then it goes back to the login screen
[06:06] <grazie> BrendanM: have you tried any other sessions from the login screen?
[06:06] <BrendanM> changing the session didn't seem to help either.
[06:06] <BrendanM> I'm thinking it's a file permissions issue
[06:06] <BrendanM> what are the permissions on my home folder supposed to be and how can I check them?
[06:06] <grazie> BrendanM: what changed to make this happen?
[06:08] <BrendanM> I installed some libraries in synaptic to let me connect to a Dell DJ
[06:08] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:09] <grazie> BrendanM: your /home/user permissions should be 755 but I doubt that's the problem
[06:10] <grazie> BrendanM: what libraries? Samba?
[06:10] <BrendanM> libnjb-cil and its dependencies
[06:11] <BrendanM> I have very little free hard drive space left, if that's an issue
[06:11] <grazie> BrendanM: it certainly would be an issus!
[06:11] <grazie> *issue
[06:12] <grazie> BrendanM: I think you would get a message though
[06:12] <BrendanM> I had like 9.9 MB free, I just deleted some stuff
[06:13] <BrendanM> why would that prevent me from logging in to my user account, but root on recovery mode would still be okay?
[06:13] <grazie> BrendanM: 'cos of X
[06:13] <BrendanM> alright, I'm going to reboot and try to log in. I'll be back if it doesn't work.
[06:57] <BrendanM> Hey, grazie, it was the lack of hard drive space. Thanks for the help
[06:57] <BrendanM> Any idea how much space I need to keep free to prevent that from happening again?
[07:01] <grazie> BrendanM: np. I can't give a precise figure, but at least 20% of the disk is recommended especially if it's a small driive
[07:10] <gpocentek> sudo apt-get install bzr
[07:10] <gpocentek> sorry
[07:13] <grazie> :)
[07:14] <BrendanM> yeah, I can't keep that much free.
[07:14] <BrendanM> I thought that was the whole point of having a swap partition
[07:14] <BrendanM> so it didn't matter if your main partition got filled
[07:37] <soular> hello
[07:39] <soular> how can I get flashplayer to install for all users?
[07:43] <grazie> soular: it should be available to all users after installation
[07:43] <Kresjah> Hi! I'm considering setting up Xubuntu on one of my older machines which is supposed to work as a gateway. The old machine is the only machine able to access the internet connection directly, and there are two other machines that will use it as a gateway to get to internet. I haven't been using any linux before installing Ubuntu recently on my laptop, so consider me a newbie. Can someone point me to a guide to setting up a Xubuntu gateway, or r
[07:49] <soular> I installed it and it doesn't work for the other user
[08:27] <pizza> so i just installed xubuntu on another partition of my macbook pro. this one is a windows partition. i can't connect to thar internets while in xubuntu, do i need ndiswrapper?
[08:33] <pizza> halp?
[08:44] <bilbo-gengis> Hello.
[08:53] <jdrake> pizza, ndiswrapper might work for you, to try get the latest version. Back in October when I was setting up my laptop I needed the latest one.
[08:57] <Kresjah> Hi! I'm considering setting up Xubuntu on one of my older machines which is supposed to work as a gateway. The old machine is the only machine able to access the internet connection directly, and there are two other machines that will use it as a gateway to get to internet. I haven't been using any linux before installing Ubuntu recently on my laptop, so consider me a newbie. Can someone point me to a guide to setting up a Xubuntu gateway, or r
[09:23] <blizz> does someone know the difference between lufs and fuse?
[09:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> They're fairly similar, but FUSE has had updates more recently than 2003.
[09:29] <blizz> lol, lufs is that old?
[09:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Yup.
[09:29] <blizz> well, somehow i knew this was the case with it ;-)
[09:38] <blizz> and is there an efficient ftp filesystem?
[09:46] <scooter> Hi
[09:46] <scooter> I have a question re switching to xubuntu
[09:47] <scooter> I need a file manager that can do smb and ssh/sftp
[09:47] <scooter> are there any others than konqueror or nautilus?
[09:57] <grazie> scooter: thunar doesn't do exactly what you want, but you may be interested in looking at the following link
[09:58] <grazie> scooter: >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131
[10:17] <scooter> grazie, thanks, I did see that thread.
[10:17] <scooter> I don't need a permanent mount point
[10:18] <scooter> I need to jump onto a windows share ad-hoc for admin purposes
[10:18] <scooter> as I run a samba shop with ~100 XP clients
[10:19] <scooter> can I install nautilus without dragging in all that gnome gunk?
[10:22] <slow-motion> n8
[10:22] <grazie> scooter: not done it myself, but I think your gunk description would be accurate
[10:23] <scooter> is konqueror any better/worse?
[10:23] <grazie> dunno
[10:35] <kristjans> can anyone recommend me a game that would run on xubuntu, and could be played 1v1 vs. a person an a windows
[10:35] <kristjans> computer?
[10:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> What kind of game?  FPS?
[10:36] <kristjans> can be simple
[10:36] <kristjans> has
[10:36] <kristjans> to be fun
[10:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> BZflag might be what you're looking for.
[10:37] <kristjans> thank you :
[10:47] <kristjans> can it be run in windowed mode?
[10:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> YUp.
[10:53] <kristjans> hmm.. how?:P
[10:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> There's a button you press that toggles between the two.  You can set it in 'options', but I think it defaults to F1.
[11:22] <Jester45> !vnc
[11:22] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[11:22] <Jester45> !FreeNX
[11:23] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[11:24] <RememberPOL> X crashes with this: (EE) Failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0) .....even though I don't have "Load "wfb"" in the module section... any idea what's up with this?
[11:27] <grazie> RememberPOL: You have a nvidia card? What updates have you made to your machine?
[11:28] <RememberPOL> Yes I have an nvidia card and I have made no updates to anything in quite a long time...
[11:28] <RememberPOL> This is like a freak accident, last night I fell asleep and when I woke up my laptop was completely frozen for some reason and when I restarted... this happens
[11:28] <Jester45> RememberPOL: have you upgraded packages? im not sure if that could change it
[11:29] <RememberPOL> Yeah, I've installed the drivers using alberto milones repository but the last update was probably over a month ago.
[11:32] <grazie> RememberPOL: there appears to still be problem with matching kernel and driver in the latest packages. Have tried booting with an old kernel?
[11:33] <RememberPOL> hmm no
[11:33] <grazie> give it a go :)
[11:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> RememberPOL: Possibly useful reference: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2038808
[11:37] <RememberPOL> ty


[02:19] <Amaranth> !automatix
[02:19] <Amaranth> ah, good
[02:51] <mneptok> Now For Fedora!
[02:51] <mneptok> *faceplam*
[08:58] <Tm_T> hi kids
[09:05]  * Myrtti steals jussi01's phone and secretly installs jaiku on it
[09:08] <Myrtti> has anyone looked into http://lifehacker.com/398086/ubuntu-tweak-helps-install-and-update-cutting+edge-linux-apps this?
[09:08] <Myrtti> is it yet another cruddy automatix?
[09:15] <bazhang> Myrtti, more of a gui fixer-upper and not the script running codec system-breaking installer
[09:27] <bazhang> chetan may be back to #u; have to step away for a moment
[11:28] <Myrtti> hello unbuturob
[11:30] <jussi01> unbuturob: Can we help you with something?
[11:30] <Myrtti> I bet bt has something
[11:31] <jussi01> @btlogin
[11:31] <Myrtti> I'm trying to keep as still as possible though - this headache is a killer
[11:32] <jussi01> Myrtti: nothing there
[11:33] <jussi01> at least thet my quick look could see
[11:33] <Myrtti> that host looks familiar
[11:34] <jussi01> yeah, I thought so also
[11:35]  * Myrtti pokes unbuturob
[11:35] <jussi01> 5 mins
[11:45] <ikonia> newclient had 7 newclient_ newclient__ newclient___ type nics in ubuntu
[11:45] <ikonia> how should that be delt with
[11:45] <jpds> Mute their IP.
[11:46] <ikonia> parted
[12:24] <Myrtti> fun
[12:24] <ikonia> ha ha
[12:25] <Myrtti> lol lol
[12:25] <ikonia> pain in offtopic coming
[12:26] <ikonia> I want to rate a script to steal fake money
[12:26] <ikonia> it's not appropriate
[12:27] <ikonia> ok he's in eyeball on ge1loP2xogae in -offtopic
[12:39]  * Pici yawns
[12:40] <ikonia> morning Pici
[12:40] <Pici> morning ikonia
[12:49] <Pici> Any problems from the clones being reported in -ops-monitor yet?
[12:49] <ikonia> nope
[12:49] <ikonia> not seen it
[12:50] <ikonia> don't recognise any of the nicks either
[12:55] <ikonia> I'm so fed up of envy
[12:55] <ikonia> everyeone is just using it blindly
[12:58] <Myrtti> envy or envy-ng?
[12:58] <ikonia> both
[12:58] <Myrtti> ooh, noodles
[12:58] <ikonia> either
[13:08] <Pici> I used it :(
[13:08] <Pici> But I tried the restricted drivers first
[13:09] <Hobbsee> the new envy-ng should be OK, though
[13:15] <ikonia> Hmmm
[13:15] <ikonia> "ok" is the word
[13:20]  * Pici rolls his eyes
[13:21] <ikonia> what was that all about ?
[13:22] <Pici> I dont know.
[13:26] <Myrtti> I think he really was on a wrong channel
[13:27] <ikonia> then why call !ops
[13:27] <Myrtti> he didn't he called !op
[13:27] <ikonia> ooh
[13:27]  * Pici reminds everyone that some people have ! ops on hilight
[13:27] <ikonia> ubottu picked it up
[13:28] <Myrtti> so perhaps on the channel he meant to be has some sort of bot trickery
[13:28] <Myrtti> that it ops people saying ! op
[13:28] <ikonia> maybe
[13:28] <ikonia> odd ubotu picked it up though
[13:28] <Pici> Its an alias for ! ops
[13:28] <Myrtti> !-ops
[13:28] <ikonia> it didn't differentiate between !ops and !op
[13:28] <ikonia> ahh
[13:28] <Pici> !medic used to be an alias too...
[13:29] <jussi01> the next person who hilights me needlessly.... *chomp*
[13:29]  * Myrtti pets jussi01
[13:29] <ikonia> jussi01: why ;)
[13:30] <jussi01> *chomp*
[13:31]  * Myrtti gives her head for jussi01 to chomp
[13:31] <Myrtti> here, nibble all you want
[13:31] <Myrtti> mind the glasses though
[13:34]  * Hobbsee highlights jussi01
[13:34]  * Hobbsee throws jussi01 at ikonia, twice.
[13:35] <jussi01> Hobbsee: careful - Im in a foul mood
[13:35] <Hobbsee> awww
[13:35]  * Hobbsee invokes the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!™
[13:35] <Hobbsee> evil highlighting people
[13:35] <jussi01> on herself
[13:35]  * Pici resists
[13:36] <Hobbsee> no, not on myself.
[13:55] <Pici> !update
[13:55] <Pici> !-update
[13:55] <Pici> !-upgrade
[13:55] <Pici> hrm
[13:59] <Pici> ARGOJDAFD
[14:01] <Myrtti> I agree
[14:47] <Myrtti> jussi01: http://kiroilevasiili.fi/vanhatsarjikset.php?strip=7
[14:47] <Pici> ahaha
[14:47] <Pici> I dont get it
[14:47] <Myrtti> that is the Cursing Hedgehog
[14:48] <Pici> I figured it was a hedgehog, or whatever that fuzzy thing is from userfriendly.
[14:48] <Myrtti> "Hi! I'm an African Hedgehog!" "Which hedgehog are you?" "?!?" "Well a F***in normal hedgehog!!!"
[15:07] <Tm_T> hi kids
[15:07] <ikonia> howdy
[15:07] <Pici> Hi
[15:19] <Myrtti> merh
[15:45]  * Myrtti yawns
[15:48]  * jpds gets ready for irssi-plugin-otr upload.
[15:49] <Pici> otr?
[15:49] <Myrtti> I wish it didn't suck so bad
[15:49] <jpds> Pici: http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/
[15:52] <jpds> He's "gone".
[15:52] <Pici> klined
[16:03] <tonyyarusso> yay jpds - been waiting for that
[16:07] <Myrtti> I just roll my own
[16:18] <Myrtti> jussi01: poing?
[16:18] <Myrtti> jussi01: http://koti.kapsi.fi/~myrtti/blog/2008/07/09/tunteellinen-siili-sentimental-hedgehog/
[16:20]  * jussi01 smiles broadly
[16:21] <Pici> :(
[16:21] <Myrtti> I almost got the rhymes to fit
[16:22] <jussi01> Myrtti: be happy! you have made someone happy today :D
[16:23] <Myrtti> topyli already gave a fix for the rhymes
[16:26] <Myrtti> jussi01: F5
[16:27] <jussi01> :)
[16:28] <Myrtti> that is actually quite near how I feel
[16:28] <Myrtti> I'm having a hedgie day today
[16:28] <Myrtti> hedgie of a day
[16:29] <Pici> Better than a wedgie of a day
[16:30] <Myrtti> ...
[16:30]  * jussi01 slaps Pici
[16:30]  * Myrtti pulls Pici's boxers over his forehead
[16:30] <Pici> yeech
[16:39] <Tm_T> kids...
[16:42] <jussi01> ssshhh you, back to work
[16:50] <Myrtti> !prayer
[16:50] <Pici> amen
[16:50] <Myrtti> Pici: I don't want to shake your world a lot
[16:50] <Myrtti> but I believe amen is aramea or hebrew for Let it be so
[16:51] <Myrtti> I wanted ^ to be as religion neutral as possible ;-)
[16:51] <Pici> Myrtti: I wasn't going to add it, I was just agreeing
[16:51] <Pici> And Yes, I know what amen means
[16:51] <Myrtti> theheh
[16:52] <Myrtti> woo :-D
[16:52] <Myrtti> I just find it really hard to not snap at people today
[16:53] <Myrtti> and I've clearly watched Kill Bill too many times
[16:53] <Myrtti> I imagine O-Ren Ishii reciting that
[16:53] <Myrtti> with a katana dripping of blood
[16:56] <Myrtti> jussi01: if you can mangle that to rhyme better, suggestions are welcome
[17:16] <jpds> tonyyarusso: and it's away: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26227/ - all thanks to our lastest MOTU - vorian!!11one
[17:41] <PriceChild> ikonia: let floodbot mute & staff kline those.
[17:42] <ikonia> PriceChild: I was lagging
[17:42] <ikonia> I still am
[17:42] <ikonia> PriceChild: will do
[17:42] <PriceChild> We're all still alive :)
[17:43] <ikonia> yup
[17:43] <Pici> ikonia: PriceChild is only saying that because you removed the wrong person ;)
[17:43] <ikonia> I know
[17:43] <Pici> okay
[17:43] <ikonia> I've apologise to him
[17:43] <ikonia> apologised
[17:43] <Pici> no worries
[17:43] <ikonia> he was fine
[17:43] <ikonia> the floodboots got there about an hour before me
[18:18] <Myrtti> MEH
[18:18] <Seeker`> lo
[18:18] <jussi01> oooh, its Seeker`!!
[18:18] <jussi01> heya Seeker`
[18:18] <Myrtti> MEH
[18:18] <Seeker`> yup
[18:18] <Seeker`> heya jussi01
[18:18] <Seeker`> Myrtti: isn't pleased to see me :(
[18:19] <Myrtti> grumpygrumpgrump
[18:19] <jussi01> Seeker`: Myrtti is feeling bad, give her a break
[18:19] <Myrtti> can I haz soda and cheetos today?
[18:19] <jussi01> yes
[18:19] <Myrtti> thank you daddy.
[18:19] <jussi01> hehe
[18:20] <jussi01> Myrtti: you are mixing me and Tm_T up...
[18:20] <Myrtti> jussi01: you made the decision by answering yes
[18:20] <Myrtti> damn.
[18:20] <jussi01> Myrtti: Im more big brother than daddy
[18:21] <Myrtti> If I want cheetos and soda, it means I should probably dress. I've been moping in my dressing gown all day.
[18:21] <Myrtti> buried under my blanket
[18:21] <jussi01> Myrtti: do dress, its generally a good idea before going out...
[18:21] <Myrtti> I thought so too
[18:22] <Myrtti> meh.
[18:24] <Tm_T> I'm here, kids
[18:25] <jussi01> not you again!
[18:25] <Myrtti> MEH
[18:25] <Seeker`> Myrtti: dressing gown + blankets ftw!
[18:25] <Tm_T> jussi01: yes, me, right next to you, but not drooling yet
[18:26] <Myrtti> (red satin btw)
[18:28] <jussi01> Okay, sauna time :) - anyone want to come?
[18:28]  * Tm_T hides behind the sofa
[18:28] <ikonia> jussi01: that would be most welcome
[18:28] <jussi01> ikonia: :D
[18:29] <LaserJock> I'd like to set up a new Ubuntu channel
[18:29] <LaserJock> anybody around who can help me with that?
[18:29] <Tm_T> yes?
[18:29] <Tm_T> as in, for what exactly?
[18:29] <jussi01> LaserJock: hang on Ill pull up a page to help
[18:32] <PriceChild> oh noez
[18:32] <Tm_T> PriceChild: what did I do now?
[18:32] <PriceChild> gah, you're still here? :)
[18:33]  * Tm_T hides
[18:34] <PriceChild> LaserJock: what particularly do you need help with? I assume its registered with chanserv... adding ops?
[18:34] <jussi01> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/IrcTeam/CreatingChannels
[18:34] <jussi01> LaserJock: ^
[18:35] <jussi01> ok, really off to sauna now, see you all later.
[18:40] <LaserJock> PriceChild: you got a sec?
[18:40] <PriceChild> LaserJock: sure
[18:41] <LaserJock> PriceChild: I'd like to take over #ubuntu-qa
[18:42] <LaserJock> but it currently seems to be registered to somebody (never heard of them)
[18:42] <PriceChild> ahhh so you need more than help for that :P
[18:42] <PriceChild> LaserJock: one mo please
[18:47] <nalioth> LaserJock: #ubuntu-qa is for the country of Qatar
[18:50] <LaserJock> nalioth: serious?
[18:50] <LaserJock> I guess that makes some sense
[18:50] <LaserJock> perhaps we can get #ubuntu-qa-team
[18:50] <nalioth> no
[18:50] <LaserJock> hmmpf
[18:50] <nalioth> #ubuntu-ga-* belongs to the Qatarians
[18:51] <LaserJock> well stink
[18:51] <LaserJock> are there any "rules" for this sort of situation?
[18:51] <PriceChild> LaserJock: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/ChannelNaming
[18:51] <nalioth> #ubuntu-[two letter country code] belongs to the specific country
[18:52] <LaserJock> hmm, that's sort of unfortunate
[18:52] <Myrtti> qa would be in this case for what exactly?
[18:52] <nalioth> Myrtti: Qatar
[18:52] <LaserJock> the Ubuntu QA team
[18:52] <Myrtti> a-ha
[18:52] <nalioth> Myrtti: they want it for "Quality Assurance"
[18:52] <Myrtti> #ubuntu-team-qa?
[18:53] <Myrtti> #ubuntu-quality?
[18:53] <nalioth> #ubuntu-quality-assurance ?
[18:53] <LaserJock> well, #ubuntu-team-qa might work
[18:53] <nalioth> i think it'd get picked up as a Qatarian channel
[18:53]  * PriceChild likes #ubuntu-quality
[18:53] <Myrtti> I too
[18:54] <nalioth> folks search for -qa or -de for their local country channels
[18:54] <nalioth> i think you'd get a lot of confused Qatarians in #ubuntu-team-qa
[18:54] <LaserJock> hmm
[18:54] <Tm_T> #ubuntu-quality
[18:54] <Tm_T> just like #ubuntu-desktop
[18:54] <Tm_T> or, #ubuntu-core
[18:54] <Tm_T> makes sens?
[18:54] <LaserJock> well, #ubuntu-quality is not great, but it might have to do
[18:55] <nalioth> #ubuntu-quality-control
[18:55] <nalioth> #ubuntu-quality-assurance
[18:55] <Myrtti> horribly long channel names
[18:56] <nalioth> Myrtti: but once you've gotten them in your config, it's of no consequence
[18:56] <LaserJock> nalioth: well, the Ubuntu QA techincall does both QC and QA
[18:56] <LaserJock> *team technically
[18:57] <nalioth> i'm just throwing out suggestions
[18:57] <LaserJock> yeah, I know
[18:57] <LaserJock> I'm just trying to think of stuff that works but is not the straight-foward one
[18:58] <LaserJock> our mailing list is ubuntu-qa so #ubuntu-qa is perfect
[18:58] <LaserJock> ah well
[19:00] <Pici> ubuntu-qa is different than ubuntu-testing ?
[19:00] <LaserJock> yes
[19:00] <LaserJock> ubuntu-testing does testing obviously
[19:00] <LaserJock> ubuntu-bugs does bugs
[19:01] <LaserJock> but ubuntu-qa is related but distinctly different
[19:13] <LaserJock> nalioth: would it be possible to set the topic in #ubuntu-qa to mention to go to #ubuntu-quality for Ubuntu QA?
[19:14] <LaserJock> at least while the Qatar LoCo doesn't seem to be inhabiting #ubuntu-qa
[19:14] <Pici> See, I thought that the testing team was using ubuntu-qa at some point then moved to -testing because of qatar. But I could be mistaken.
[19:15] <LaserJock> Pici: that's actually entirely possible
[19:15] <LaserJock> but we've now got separate testing and QA teams
[19:15] <LaserJock> so I was trying to claim ubuntu-qa back :-)
[19:22] <LaserJock> on https://wiki.edubuntu.org/IrcTeam/CreatingChannels what is meant by "Open the channel for public access, using" down at the end?
[19:26] <Pici> LaserJock: If you followed all the steps on this page from the beginning, the second set of commands tells you to lock the channel, this just undoes that.
[19:26] <LaserJock> what did it lock though?
[19:29] <Pici> !modes
[19:30] <Pici> That'll explain the channel modes better than I can
[19:30] <PriceChild> I don't like that part of the guide, and think if it should be kept in, it should be added as an afterthought at the bottom.
[19:30] <Pici> +sntmi are each a different channel mode
[19:35] <ilowe> Hi, could somebody test my client for the DCC exploit fix?
[19:36] <nalioth> ilowe: did the bots not take care of that?
[19:36] <ilowe> nalioth: nm, sorry, I'm doing it with the bot right now
[19:36] <ilowe> nalioth: I'm all good. Sorry 'bout that
[19:39] <Myrtti> WOHOO! I'm special!
[19:40] <LaserJock> Pici, PriceChild: ok, thanks for the help. I've got #ubuntu-quality set up now
[19:42]  * PriceChild highfives LaserJock
[20:23]  * gnomefreak wishes now that we would have made a #eos channel or #gutsy channel :(
[20:23] <gnomefreak> now there is no way to find gutsy users to test packages
[20:24] <Myrtti> eos?
[20:24] <Myrtti> end of service?
[20:26] <Myrtti> #ubuntu-1
[20:26] <Myrtti> :-D
[20:28] <Tm_T> awww
[20:38] <SirTrombaLot> hi all
[20:38] <Myrtti> SirTrombaLot: hi
[20:38] <Myrtti> SirTrombaLot: this is #ubuntu-ops and you are here because you've got a curse word in your ident
[20:39] <SirTrombaLot> hi
[20:39] <SirTrombaLot> http://tinyurl.com/nepomuk
[20:39] <SirTrombaLot> ye
[20:39] <SirTrombaLot> s
[20:39] <SirTrombaLot> i have to change
[20:39] <SirTrombaLot> i can't remember
[20:39] <SirTrombaLot> how i can change nickname
[20:40] <SirTrombaLot> is there any soul?
[20:40] <Myrtti> the way to change your ident is dependant on your client
[20:40] <gnomefreak> SirTrombaLot: /nick newnick   but it will only change nick you are using not the host name
[20:42] <SirTrombaLot> what do you care
[20:42] <SirTrombaLot> http://tinyurl.com/nepomuk
[20:42] <gnomefreak> SirTrombaLot: if you are done its time to go
[20:42] <SirTrombaLot> lol
[20:43] <SirTrombaLot> http://tinyurl.com/raptor
[20:43] <Nafallo> apparently he wasn't done.
[20:43] <gnomefreak> he is now
[20:43] <Nafallo> :-)
[20:44]  * Myrtti whistles
[20:44] <gnomefreak> comes back feel free to ban him ;)
[20:44] <gnomefreak> hes been around long enough to know better
[20:44] <Myrtti> well I did a pre-emptive ban on him already at #ubuntu
[20:44] <Myrtti> should he figure out how to change his ident
[20:45] <Myrtti> I'd rather not see something like that there
[20:47] <gnomefreak> dont blame you IIRC i have banned him in all channels at one point before jan.
[20:48] <gnomefreak> but all those bans have gone away
[20:48] <PriceChild> He caught a train, as they say.
[20:48] <Myrtti> this would be the time I could resort to an old Finnish proverb dating from mid 90's
[20:49] <Myrtti> but I'm fairly sure I'd be regarded as biased and an awful person by citizens of two European countries who do IRC
[20:51]  * Myrtti shuts up
[20:51] <Myrtti> and YAY my headache is becoming worse again!
[20:51] <nalioth> Myrtti: go rub a rodent
[20:52]  * Dave2 blinks.
[20:52] <Myrtti> hi dans34
[20:52] <PriceChild> Hey dans34, how can I help?
[20:53] <ompaul> PriceChild, you are very "possessive" there with the I ;-)
[20:54]  * Myrtti harumphs
[20:54] <nalioth> dans34: is there something PriceChild (or anyone else) can help you with?
[20:54] <nalioth> :D
[20:54] <ompaul> Myrtti, happy Wednesday see you Friday kind of thing and anyone else who happens to be in Wolverhampton
[20:54] <ompaul> PriceChild, ^^
[20:54] <PriceChild> ompaul: coming to lrl?
[20:55] <ompaul> PriceChild, no I am going to protest outside saying they should call it GLUG rl   ... of course I am :)
[20:55] <dans34> no just beein nosy
[20:55] <Myrtti> Papa ompaul ♥
[20:55] <PriceChild> ompaul: well you didn't come last year :P
[20:56] <ompaul> PriceChild, I told ye all it was too close to my visit to .fr
[20:56] <ompaul> so would go this year
[20:56] <ompaul> popey, ^^ ohhh noes ompaul in the same room twice in the same year noes
[20:56] <Mez> ompaul, remind me to run
[20:57] <ompaul> Mez, you don't have to ask twice ;-)
[20:57]  * ompaul chases Mez
[20:57] <Mez> ompaul, well, remind me to hide
[20:57] <ompaul> Mez, you don't have to ask twice ;-)
[20:58] <Mez> ompaul, just try not to annoy me TOO much ;)
[20:58]  * Mez is looking forward to LRL
[20:58]  * ompaul wonders who I annoy - ohh
[20:58]  * ompaul looks at list
[20:58] <ompaul> ahhhhhhhhhhh
[20:59]  * Myrtti starts to craft a "Hug Myrtti" queue number dispenser
[20:59]  * Mez steals ticket #1
[20:59] <Mez> (I *am* meeting you from the airport after all)
[20:59]  * Myrtti gets on her Fast Show -quote mode
[20:59] <Myrtti> BRILLIANT!
[20:59] <Myrtti> tippo magico!
[20:59] <ompaul> hahaha
[21:00] <Mez> so, who else is going?
[21:01] <Myrtti> ompaul: suits you, sir
[21:01] <Mez> pope y, dave 2, me, Myrtt i, PriceChil d, Nafall o ....
[21:01] <Mez> who else?
[21:01] <Mez> #ubuntu-ops bof ?
[21:01] <Dave2> I should be if I actually get round to sorting it out.
[21:02] <Mez> Dave2, lol - you have to be there
[21:02] <Nafallo> just from this channel?
[21:02] <Dave2> I suck at getting things sorted though
[21:02] <ompaul> Mez, more like #ubuntu-ops finds common ground near opposite corners of room :)
[21:02] <ompaul> hehehe
[21:02] <Nafallo> Davie y
[21:02] <Mez> The most amusing incident from last year involved you Dave2
[21:02]  * Dave2 wonders which that'd be
[21:02] <Myrtti> hey, this would be a good time to craft those padded "Whack A Op" bats
[21:03] <Mez> Dave2, do you remember the comment "actually, she's quite hot"?>
[21:04] <Mez> (my strange friend in reference to tubgirl)
[21:04] <Dave2> ah, yes
[21:04] <Mez> that was my most amusing moment
[21:05] <dans34> tubgirl ?
[21:05] <dans34> wtf is that
[21:05] <PriceChild> Gary: are you going?
[21:05] <PriceChild> dans34: don't google it.
[21:06] <Mez> dans34, DONT GOOGLE IT
[21:06] <dans34> lol better not seen ?
[21:06] <Nafallo> dans34: you don't want to know. trust me on that one.
[21:06] <Mez> you HAVE been warned
[21:06] <PriceChild> dans34: and when i say don't... i don't mean "you really shouldn't, but go on". I mean... "save yourself"
[21:06] <PriceChild> dans34: /topic
[21:06] <Myrtti> RUN
[21:06] <nalioth> dans34: if there's nothing we can help you with, please see the /topic
[21:06]  * Tm_T hugs Myrtti
[21:07] <dans34> aww ... do i have to go ?
[21:08]  * Myrtti tries to think of a gentle way of saying yes
[21:08] <Myrtti> "oops"
[21:08] <dans34> lol .. thanks  .. laters
[21:09] <Myrtti> that was my Austin Powers moment
[21:11] <ompaul> Mez, that should not be mentioned on any irc channel ever
[21:11] <ompaul> please don't ... somewhere someone is having their dinner
[21:11] <Mez> why? Wow is fun
[21:12] <Nafallo> ehrm...
[21:12] <Nafallo> I think he meant THIS channel :-P
[21:12] <ompaul> Mez, I was pointing to your comment to Dave2
[21:13] <ompaul> and there I will leave it
[21:13] <Mez> ompaul, ohhhhhhhhhhhhh....
[21:13] <ompaul> wow
[21:13] <Mez> did someone go and look up t**g***
[21:13]  * Myrtti larts Mez's forehead
[21:13] <Myrtti> there
[21:13] <ompaul> Mez, ohh give it a rest
[21:13] <Mez> o_O
[21:13] <Myrtti> and onwards with the show
[21:13]  * ompaul shudders
[21:13] <Myrtti> so have you seen any good movies lately
[21:13]  * Mez shrugs
[21:14] <Tm_T> Myrtti: no, but I saw some nice green grass today in Oulu if that counts
[21:14] <ompaul> my favorite was and is Dr Strangelove
[21:14] <Myrtti> Tm_T: ooohhh
[21:14] <Myrtti> Tm_T: did you see the poem?
[21:14] <Tm_T> I did, nice :)
[21:14] <Tm_T> and tuhina is funny
[21:15] <Tm_T> did you see the photo of him playing with pda?
[21:15] <Myrtti> yeah :-D
[21:15] <Myrtti> thought it was yours
[21:15] <Myrtti> and it was, wasn't it
[21:15] <Tm_T> yes, my iPaq
[21:16] <Mez> can someone remind me on Sunday to make sure I load up my USB stick with movies?
[21:17] <ompaul> Mez, set the alarm on your mobile under things to do
[21:17] <ompaul> ;-)
[21:19] <Myrtti> I should start packing my bags
[21:19] <Myrtti> I've got two cans of canned Rudolf the Rednosed Reindeer in my cupboard and I've been wondering too many times already wth they are for
[21:19] <Mez> ompaul, I ignore my mobile - and my head will be full of too much crap on monday (going up early to brum for a funeral :()
[21:23] <ompaul> ack
[21:35]  * Myrtti tries to target practise throwing cheetos to the paper bin
[21:35] <PriceChild> Myrtti: but they're good cheetos?!
[21:36]  * Myrtti looks at her tummy
[21:36] <jussi01>  having fun over there ikonia??
[21:36] <Myrtti> PriceChild: but they're building up on my waist?!
[21:37]  * Myrtti slaps jussi01 with a vihta
[21:42]  * Myrtti yawns, goes to get another glass of soda
[21:48]  * jussi01 goes to bed
[21:51] <Myrtti> giving up, eh
[21:51] <Myrtti> ;-)
[21:51] <Myrtti> nini jussi01
[21:59] <ompaul> PriceChild, pm there for ya
[22:02]  * mneptok farts delicately
[22:03] <PriceChild> mneptok: I don't think there's a delicate way..
[22:04]  * Mez boxes mneptok up in a glass cage
[22:08] <Mez> !ohmy | gordonjcp
[22:08] <Mez> !ohmy > gordonjcp
[22:08] <Mez> :-!
[22:11] <ompaul> Mez, over9k was being a racist
[22:11] <ompaul> Mez, I say -- was ---
[22:12] <Mez> still, racist would have been better than "knob"
[22:13] <ompaul> Mez, door knob is what most people think these days with knob drop the kde impression and you are in the space you are thinking of
[22:13] <Mez> ompaul, ?
[22:13] <ompaul> Mez, keep up please ;-)
[22:14] <Mez> ompaul, then rephrase, to not have fragmented sentences?
[22:14] <ompaul> knob is not nob
[22:14] <ompaul> have funn
[22:15]  * ompaul wishes he could find his Ian Dury CD
[22:15] <Mez> ompaul, its a spelling difference. In fact, you'll find in different dialects that "knob" means what you think of as "nob"
[22:15] <Mez> (come vs cum, etc etc)
[22:16]  * ompaul waves at mneptok the happiest op in the channel
[22:16] <mneptok> i am?
[22:17] <mneptok> that's ... not good news ;)
[22:17] <ompaul> now there is an in joke that is so far in it has told many levels of self referential comedy that they can see further if they would only exist in the moment and stop playing the old joke act
[22:17] <ompaul> it is so far in it has never been out
[22:19] <ompaul> there was a joke in some Jerry Lewis comedy about some party (said party is an alien for the purposes of the film)  "being so far out it ain't never been in"
[22:19]  * ompaul is trying not to look back in anger
[22:20] <Mez> I hear you say...
[22:20] <Mez> heard *
[22:27] <mneptok> i'm looking back in Spandex(tm) and glitter.
[22:28] <ompaul> mneptok, big hair big shoulders
[22:33] <ikonia> living on a prayer !
[22:33] <ikonia> final countdown
[22:34] <ikonia> here I go again on my own
[22:37] <Mez> mneptok, come to LRL and take Drinkys place at the gong ;)
[22:38] <Myrtti> remind me not to get too drunk.  I can't remember how much I drank two weeks ago >__<
[22:40] <Myrtti> remind me not to drink.
[22:40] <Mez> though?
[22:40] <Mez> you're just gonna get me drunk arent you
[22:41] <Myrtti> no, just going to force feed you Rudolf the Reindeer
[22:41] <Mez> No - I dont like pate
[22:43] <ompaul> Myrtti, still drunk is actually the phrase :)
[22:49]  * gnomefreak wishes i was still drunk or drunk or any of the like


[13:35] <rbelem> hi everybody
[13:35] <rbelem> did you see the meego announce?
[13:35] <rbelem> http://meego.com/about/faq
[13:35] <rbelem> Q Will MeeGo use .rpm or .deb as its packaging system?
[13:35] <rbelem>     MeeGo will use the .rpm format
[13:37] <rbelem> persia, ^
[13:37] <rbelem> asac, ^
[13:41] <ian_brasil> rbelem, this announcement has the potential for a huge flame war i think
[13:42] <ian_brasil> nice that the code will be hosted at the linux foundation
[13:42] <rbelem> how bizarre
[13:43] <rbelem> that's the good part
[13:43]  * ian_brasil checks its not April 1
[13:43]  * zumbi tried fc12 livecd last night... it failed in several points.. it shall be easy to produce something .deb based better than .rpm :-)
[13:44] <rbelem> me too
[13:44] <rbelem> i think that i know... apt, dpkg must evolve
[13:45] <rbelem> need to be more attractive
[13:46] <rbelem> merge apt and portage?
[13:47] <zumbi> what for?
[13:47] <ian_brasil> rbelem, i am sure Meego was not a decision made for purely tech reasons
[13:47] <zumbi> we just need to finish this ever going multiarch thing
[13:47] <rbelem> zumbi, make packages easily to port to another arch
[13:50]  * rbelem is shocked
[13:53] <asac> i dont know what package format they will use ;)
[13:53] <rbelem> asac, rpm
[13:53] <ian_brasil> #meego is up
[13:53] <rbelem> it is the faq
[13:53] <rbelem> *in
[13:54] <rbelem> asac, http://meego.com/about/faq
[13:56] <asac> annoying ;)
[13:57] <ian_brasil> it is tongue for lunch here at work too :(..what a start to the week..carnaval week n'all
[14:04] <ian_brasil> will ubuntu join meego?
[15:46] <ian_brasil> nice netbook-launcher-efl
[23:05] <rethus1> is this a irc for mobile-phones and ubuntu?
[23:05] <rethus1>  or laptops and ubuntu