[07:27] <BenWhitey> it stopped working after somebody told me to do some stuff
[07:28] <eljefe> fignew: i know, but you gotta try what may work!  i don't like getting the cananocal shaft either ;)
[07:28] <defcon_> any way to list processes by mount point?
[07:28] <eljefe> it stopped working?
[07:28] <BenWhitey> kidn of
[07:28] <BenWhitey> like i go to Internet
[07:28] <BenWhitey> and try to open it
[07:28] <BenWhitey> and nothing comes up
[07:28] <justin_> fignew: I have 256MB of ram, and 512MB of swap. I can't remember what the ram usage is after it slows up.
[07:28] <eljefe> 'internet' ?
[07:28] <eljefe> you mean, in the KMenu?  or a web browser?
[07:29] <BenWhitey> Internet => KNetworkManager (Network Manager)
[07:29] <fignew> BenWhitey: does your wireless network show up on the list in knetworkmanager?
[07:29] <eljefe> ah ok
[07:29] <heyholmez> whats an adequate partition size for kubuntu? im going to use a diff partition for storage
[07:29] <BenWhitey> i can't open it
[07:29] <BenWhitey> but it used to
[07:29] <fignew> but it shows up?
[07:29] <eljefe> how about in your system tray, by the clock?  is it there?  right click.
[07:29] <fignew> ohh! you can't use knetworkmanager :P
[07:29] <Lynoure> defcon_: not knowing what you whole goal is, not really. Some people like encrypting whole home, but that does not give you the kind of deniability truecrypt can
[07:29] <BenWhitey> ok
[07:29] <eljefe> fignew: why not?
[07:30] <eljefe> BenWhitey: ok what?  its there?
[07:30] <BenWhitey> there used to be the option to connect to wireless networks, but that went away when i stopped being able to open that
[07:30] <BenWhitey> yeah its there
[07:30] <BenWhitey> so now its like "KNetwork Manager"
[07:30] <Captain_Haddock> heyholmez: it's best to have separate partitions for /, /usr and storage.
[07:30] <eljefe> so... i am guessing that somehow it doesn't see the wireless card, not sure what would have changed that tho
[07:30] <Captain_Haddock> heyholmez: For / 10 GB should be good.
[07:30] <BenWhitey> Wired Devices,, wired network is grayed out, Manual Configuration, Options =>, Help =>
[07:30] <defcon_> Lynoure, :)
[07:30] <BenWhitey> me neither
[07:31] <BenWhitey> bit it happened before, i fixed it by installing kubuntu again
[07:31] <BenWhitey> **but
[07:31] <eljefe> :/
[07:31] <BenWhitey> i might just loan my laptop to my friend who nkows linux
[07:31] <BenWhitey> i'm helplsess in linux
[07:31] <eljefe> have you looked in the forums at all?
[07:31] <BenWhitey> yeah
[07:32] <eljefe> yeah :(  that might be a good move i suppose
[07:32] <BenWhitey> ive posted once, nobody really responded
[07:32] <eljefe> make him do it :) like people do to me ;)
[07:32] <BenWhitey> and then i replied to another post saying i had the similar problem and we'll see what happens with that one
[07:32] <eljefe> have you read other people's comments/posts?
[07:32] <fignew> BenWhitey: close knetworkmanager and try
[07:32] <BenWhitey> yes
[07:32] <fignew> mv ~/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc ~/.kde/share/config/knetworkmanagerrc~
[07:32] <eljefe> mm ok
[07:32] <BenWhitey> ive tried guides and stuff
[07:32] <BenWhitey> 1sec, let me try changing my interfaces file
[07:32] <BenWhitey> maybe that will change knetwork manager
[07:32] <eljefe> daaang, sounds like it might just not happen then, if you've tried a lot of things
[07:33] <eljefe> sure, who knows.
[07:33] <fignew> BenWhitey: if you would be so kind as to paste your interfaces file :)
[07:33] <heyholmez> thanks alot
[07:33] <fignew> BenWhitey: have you tried other WAPs?
[07:33] <BenWhitey> fignew: no they are all encrypted
[07:33] <BenWhitey> mine is open
[07:34] <BenWhitey> the rest are my neighbors, i could ask for the key, but then we'd hvae to go thru that whole thing
[07:34] <fignew> BenWhitey: like at Starbucks or something ;)
[07:34] <BenWhitey> lol
[07:34] <BenWhitey> no haven't tried that
[07:34] <BenWhitey> my interfaces is the default
[07:35] <BenWhitey> except that it has "wireless-essid unique" under "iface ath0 inet dhcp"
[07:35] <sivaji> is there any software to send message to mobile phone from computer
[07:36] <Lynoure> sivaji: What kind of message?
[07:36] <sivaji> text message
[07:36] <BenWhitey> sign into aim with the phone then use aim to send it :)
[07:36] <Lynoure> sivaji: like sms or just a message in text form?  there is bluetooth chat and OBEX...
[07:36] <sivaji> sms
[07:37] <BenWhitey> any ideas?
[07:37] <fignew> yea
[07:37] <BenWhitey> cool
[07:38] <Lynoure> sivaji: there is smssend, and kannel, at least, depending on how large you want to go
[07:38] <BenWhitey> brb, i need to grab some food to stay awake
[07:38] <BenWhitey> lol its 1:40 here
[07:38] <BenWhitey> and i have to get up at like 8 or something
[07:38] <Lynoure> sivaji: you can explore your options with   apt-cache search sms   and then  apt-cache show nameoftheprogram   for seeing more detail
[07:39] <sivaji> is it possible  send sms using kopete
[07:40] <kane_> hey whats a good channel to ask a linux security related question?
[07:40] <sivaji> ok thank u Lynoure
[07:40] <fignew> BenWhitey: sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifconfig ath0 down; sudo ifconfig ath0 up; sudo iwconfig ath0 essid unique; sudo iwconfig ath0 ap any sudo ifconfig ath0 <IP_ADDRESS>; ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:40] <fignew> :)
[07:40] <dsmith_> hi, has anyone updated from 6.10 to 7.04?
[07:40] <dsmith_> without serious issues?
[07:40] <eljefe> dsmith_: bad idea :(
[07:41] <dsmith_> thats! what I thought
[07:41] <dsmith_> heheh
[07:41] <dsmith_> 6.06 to 6.10 worked fine
[07:41] <eljefe> sivaji: in the USA, phone companies have email addresses for phones, like tombile is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:41] <fignew> eljefe: bad idea?
[07:41] <eljefe> TMobile, rather
[07:42] <fignew> not really, works fine, assuming you didn't install automatix or easyubuntu
[07:42] <eljefe> dsmith_: well you can try it, but myne failed horribly.
[07:42] <eljefe> yes, i had automatix stuff in there
[07:43] <dsmith_> I do have automatix
[07:43] <dsmith_> hmmmm
[07:43] <BenWhitey> ok
[07:43] <BenWhitey> i'
[07:43] <BenWhitey> i'm back
[07:43] <eljefe> yes?  yes?
[07:43] <eljefe> and?
[07:43] <BenWhitey> i got food
[07:43] <eljefe> lol
[07:43] <BenWhitey> let me try those stuff you said
[07:43] <eljefe> i need to sleep
[07:43] <eljefe> so try it quick ;)
[07:44] <eljefe> dsmith_: do you have your /home partition on another partition, or backed up, in case you need to reinstall?  if so, give it a try!
[07:44] <dsmith_> I have 3 full backups and one incremental
[07:44] <eljefe> i mean, your /home directory on another partition?
[07:44] <eljefe> including all music, photos, etc?
[07:44] <dsmith_> I can backup /home by itself, but dont you need a few otheres?
[07:45] <BenWhitey> did you mean: sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifconfig ath0 down; sudo ifconfig ath0 up; sudo iwconfig ath0 essid unique; sudo iwconfig ath0 ap any; sudo ifconfig ath0 <IP_ADDRESS>; ping <IP_ADDRESS> ???
[07:45] <BenWhitey> notice the ; after any
[07:45] <eljefe> well if you end up reinstalling, it'll be a boring basic setup but nothing much can transfer, unless you put a lot of effort into cron or /etc/resolv.conf or somehting...
[07:45] <eljefe> BenWhitey: what about it?
[07:46] <BenWhitey> he left it out
[07:46] <BenWhitey> before
[07:46] <eljefe> 'access point = any access point'
[07:46] <eljefe> ah
[07:46] <fignew> 'tis right
[07:47] <wolferine> anyone use Crossover?
[07:47] <BenWhitey> you want the paste?
[07:47] <BenWhitey> "destination host unreachable"
[07:47] <fignew> ugh
[07:47] <fignew> paste iwlist ath0
[07:48] <BenWhitey> kk
[07:48] <BenWhitey> iwlist: unknown command 'ath0'
[07:48] <BenWhitey> iflist?
[07:48] <fignew> sorry
[07:48] <fignew> paste iwlist ath0 ap
[07:48] <BenWhitey> ah
[07:50] <BenWhitey> lol
[07:50] <BenWhitey> i need to enable my eth0
[07:50] <eljefe> BenWhitey: i gotta sleep, luck to you
[07:50] <BenWhitey> thanks
[07:50] <BenWhitey> cya later
[07:51] <eljefe> sorry that i wan unable to solve it; good luck fignew
[07:51] <BenWhitey> np
[07:51] <BenWhitey> no offense fignew, but i don't think you'll be able to fix it either
[07:51] <pulaski> hello
[07:51] <BenWhitey> ive been trying to fix this sicne i got my laptop on monday lol
[07:51] <fignew> I know
[07:52] <BenWhitey> lol
[07:52] <fignew> I think it's yout Wireless accesspoint
[07:52] <BenWhitey> how do i enable eth0
[07:52] <fignew> sudo ifup eth0
[07:52] <BenWhitey> sudo ifconfig ath0 up
[07:52] <BenWhitey> ok
[07:52] <eljefe> sudo ifconfig eth up
[07:52] <BenWhitey> it says "ifup: interface is already configured"
[07:52] <eljefe> \eth0
[07:53] <eljefe> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[07:53] <eljefe> ok i'm done! lol
[07:53] <BenWhitey> ok  cya later
[07:53] <BenWhitey> ok its still disabled
[07:54] <pulaski> I'm editing apache2.conf on my feisty fawn distro.  I've used adept to grab the libapache2-mod which provides the php5 module for apache2.  Will I need to put a stanza in apache2.conf to specifically load the php5_mod?
[07:54] <fignew> meh
[07:55] <BenWhitey> ok
[07:55] <BenWhitey> i fixed it
[07:55] <BenWhitey> let me paste this ish
[07:56] <eljefe> BenWhitey: try installing the program 'restricted-manager' and seeing what that does (it manages drivers)
[07:56] <eljefe> ok NOW i am done
[07:56] <BenWhitey> http://rafb.net/p/0lZ30019.html
[07:56] <BenWhitey> damn it
[07:56] <fignew> I have a atheros card too
[07:56] <BenWhitey> http://rafb.net/p/JhPgoP94.html
[07:56] <fignew> restricted-manager not needed (99% sure)
[07:57] <fignew> ya, card is working
[07:57] <BenWhitey> aaahh so you're an expert :))
[07:57] <BenWhitey> want me to disable my router firewall?
[07:57] <fignew> oj
[07:57] <fignew> ok
[07:57] <BenWhitey> i'm not sure it will do anything
[07:57] <fignew> is your access point broadcasting ssid?
[07:58] <BenWhitey> yeah
[07:58] <fignew> look here
[07:58] <fignew> from earlier:
[07:58] <fignew> ath0      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"unique"  Nickname:""
[07:58] <fignew>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.457 GHz  Access Point: 00:06:25:F7:C8:6A
[07:58] <fignew> ahh never mind
[07:59] <BenWhitey> my router has a differnt MAC for wired and wireless
[08:00] <BenWhitey> should i uncheck "filter multicast" on my router?
[08:01] <fignew> doubt it
[08:01] <BenWhitey> k
[08:01] <Etokura_> Yeah?
[08:05] <fignew> Sorry BenWhitey, gotta go to bed
[08:05] <fignew> school tomorrow
[08:05] <BenWhitey> ok
[08:05] <BenWhitey> same here
[08:05] <BenWhitey> haha
[08:06] <BenWhitey> but no school for me, i'm done
[08:06] <BenWhitey> do you have AIM or something?
[08:06] <fignew> I'm pretty sure it's your WAP
[08:06] <fignew> yep
[08:06] <BenWhitey> so that we could continue later
[08:07] <fignew> 90% sure it's your router
[08:07] <fignew> /wireless access point
[08:07] <BenWhitey> yeah
[08:07] <BenWhitey> i donno
[08:08] <BenWhitey> works in windows which is the weird thing
[08:08] <BenWhitey> let me try trying off multicast
[08:08] <fignew> hmmmmm
[08:08] <BenWhitey> i also turned off the firewall
[08:08] <BenWhitey> lets see if it makes a difference
[08:10] <BenWhitey> is that really our AIM? or is that a bot
[08:10] <BenWhitey> i think its a bot
[08:10] <BenWhitey> lol
[08:11] <fignew> lol
[08:11] <BenWhitey> funny though
[08:11] <fignew> msg me :)
[08:11] <BenWhitey> where?
[08:11] <BenWhitey> here?
[08:11] <BenWhitey> tomorrow? or that AIM you gave me
[08:11] <fignew> on AIM
[08:11] <BenWhitey> i id
[08:11] <fignew> wait bot?
[08:11] <BenWhitey> lol
[08:11] <BenWhitey> yah
[08:12] <BenWhitey> msg me
[08:12] <fignew> hmm?
[08:12] <BenWhitey> did you get my PM in iRC?
[08:12] <fignew> no
[08:12] <BenWhitey> mm
[08:12] <BenWhitey> i'm not a registered nick
[08:12] <BenWhitey> thats why
[08:12] <fignew> :P
[08:12] <BenWhitey> ok
[08:12] <BenWhitey> go to channel of my name
[08:12] <BenWhitey> benwhitey
[08:13] <BenWhitey> i don't feel like registering
[08:28] <agady> is it possible for the power button to start shutdown immediately instead of presenting the shutdown dialog?
[08:28] <otero> I cant believe im actually on linux
[08:29] <Admiral_Chicago> agady: the hardware one on the front of the case?
[08:29] <agady> yes
[08:29] <drarem> congrats, otero
[08:30] <Admiral_Chicago> well yes, but it's not as neat. the shutdown dialogue does that in a clean manner
[08:30] <MattParry> Hi, does anyone know how to upload their openPGP key to the ubuntu server?
[08:31] <MattParry> ive tried gpg --send-key  but it is not working
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> MattParry: on Launchpad.
[08:32] <MattParry> Admiral_Chicago: yes sorry should have said that on Launchpad
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> you upload it on LP, it send you a file, you decrypt that file and i think upload that one.
[08:34] <MattParry> Ive worked through the instructions on launchpad and now have a key fingerprint
[08:34] <otero> thanks
[08:34] <MattParry> Admiral_Chicago: what do you mean LP?
[08:34] <MattParry> sorry lp = launchpad
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> MattParry: wait a second let me grab the wiki so we are on the same pafe
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> page*
[08:35] <MattParry> thank you
[08:35] <MattParry> i've done pgp --send-key
[08:36] <MattParry> it does not give an error and just returns to the command prompt
[08:37] <bky> hi. i am having an xserver problem (i think)
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> pgp?
[08:37] <bky> i tried to run init 1 from my KDE console (that was a good way to do a quick 'reboot' on fedora) but it hung on that bootup-screen thing
[08:37] <MattParry> sorry i cant type tonight! gpg
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> okay
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> what was your command?
[08:38] <bky> i restarted my computer with the power button, and now when i try to login it just goes black and shows the nvidia logo again and goes back to the login screen
[08:38] <bky> mine?
[08:39] <MattParry> gpg --send-key
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> bky: sorry no that was MattParry
[08:39] <bky> oh ok
[08:39] <bentob0x> new Linux headers today, does it mean I need to re-install my nvidia drivers using the new headers?
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> bky: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in a failsafe rerminal
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> bentob0x: yes
[08:39] <bentob0x> k thx
[08:39] <bky> i did that, it didn't help
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> MattParry: you need to do gpg --send-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com D8FC66D2
[08:40] <bky> startx has some odd error about fonts but it doesn't sound crtical
[08:40] <bky> i'm on the install CD now, so i can edit config files and such. i think it's stuck trying to go to single user mode
[08:40] <Admiral_Chicago> replace D8fc...with you key
[08:41] <MattParry> Admiral_Chicago: what does the D8FC66D2 mean?
[08:41] <MattParry> i see
[08:42] <MattParry> Admiral_Chicago: Thank you for that it seems to have sent the key
[08:43] <Admiral_Chicago> MattParry: great now you can add it to LP
[08:43] <Admiral_Chicago> the link on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto should help
[08:45] <MattParry> thank you, ive just done that and now am going into my hotmail account
[08:48] <timthelion> hey
[08:48] <MattParry> ok I cant read the email in Hotmail :-(
[08:48] <bentob0x> ok, I just reinstalled the nvidia drivers with the new kernel modules, what's the point of what I just did?
[08:48] <bentob0x> just asking by curiosity ^^
[08:48] <MattParry> why is this so complicated to agree to the code of conduct?
[08:49] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know, i've wondered that too
[08:49] <Admiral_Chicago> bentob0x: because the restricted drivers can't be shipped with the kernel but can be made to load in the kernel
[08:50] <MattParry> brb
[08:50] <KevinAlaska> can I agree to disagree? :)
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> about the kernel?
[08:54] <RadiantFire> no, KevinAlaska thats not allowed at all!
[08:54] <RadiantFire> j/k
[08:54] <KevinAlaska> heh.. fine.. :P
[08:55] <KevinAlaska> I promise to behave... and go play on windows.... 'not!'
[08:58] <KevinAlaska> Everyone needs to just calm down and stop all this typing.. I can't get a word in edge wise.. :)
[08:58] <jew> how come when i run adept to install packages some are greyed out?
[08:58] <RadiantFire> really?
[08:58] <RadiantFire> thats odd, I don't think that is supposed to happen
[08:58] <KevinAlaska> that happened to me as well.
[08:59] <KevinAlaska> umm.. one sec.. I was given a command to fix something else but that (if I remember correctly) might have fixed it as well. let me fetch it.
[09:01] <jewski> nm
[09:01] <KevinAlaska> did your adept crash?
[09:01] <jewski> i fig it out
[09:01] <KevinAlaska> if so this fixed some problems for me.. --->sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:01] <KevinAlaska> oh. heh.. nm then. :)
[09:01] <jewski> i got a worse prob now
[09:01] <KevinAlaska> what was it?
[09:01] <jewski> i didnt fetch updates
[09:01] <jewski> new install
[09:02] <jewski> my awful problem now is broadcom
[09:02] <KevinAlaska> broadcom.. ISP?
[09:02] <jewski> wireless
[09:02] <jewski> dmesg say bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[09:03] <KevinAlaska> humm.... I am to new to help much of anything... so many on and yet so few watching the channel.
[09:04] <jewski> brb
[09:06] <RadiantFire> jewski: install bcm43xx-fwcutter and click yes when the dialog box comes up, then sudo rmmod bcm43xx && sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[09:11] <heyholmez> anyidea why I cant connect to my wireless network with my broadcom wirelec nic
[09:11] <heyholmez> i installed fwcutter. i can see the network. it wont connect
[09:11] <RadiantFire> heyholmez: did you get the firmware too?
[09:11] <heyholmez> yeah
[09:12] <RadiantFire> did you reload the bcm43xx module after you installed the firmware?
[09:12] <heyholmez> i restarted
[09:12] <RadiantFire> have you tried using the terminal, sometimes the knetworkmanager flakes out
[09:13] <heyholmez> what do i need to do
[09:13] <RadiantFire> heyholmez: do you know what the interface is called, like eth0, wlan0?
[09:13] <heyholmez> ya
[09:13] <heyholmez> eth
[09:13] <heyholmez> 1
[09:13] <RadiantFire> heyholmez: so, open a terminal and so sudo iwconfig <eth0> essid <your essid>
[09:14] <RadiantFire> then sudo dhclient eht1
[09:15] <heyholmez> No DHCPOFFERS received     No working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[09:16] <RadiantFire> heyholmez: that might be on your router end?
[09:16] <heyholmez> dangit
[09:16] <bky> ok i tried a few more things
[09:16] <RadiantFire> heyholmez: what does iwlist eth1 scan say the quality of the link is?
[09:16] <bky> kde comes up fine if i login as root
[09:16] <heyholmez> 100/100
[09:16] <bky> so it's something wrong with my user session i think. is there a way to reset that?
[09:16] <RadiantFire> ahh, thats weird
[09:16] <heyholmez> prob stupid router
[09:16] <heyholmez> brb
[09:17] <heyholmez> thanks for help
[09:18] <bky> i gotta get my KDE fixed, i have something important i have to do :-/
[09:18] <RadiantFire> bky: what error do you get?
[09:20] <bky> no crtical errors, one it says is not a problem and 3 that are about fonts and seem to not crash. the X server seems to come up (i get that odd black and white pattern and a mouse) but it goes right back to the console
[09:22] <schukeks> hallo, habemeiner meinung nach,  den tvbrowser erfolgreich auf meinem rechner installiert, aber wie bekomme ich jetzt das teil ans laufen ? ist nicht in den progs zu finden
[09:22] <heyholmez> I dont know what the problem is. Cant be the router.  I tried disabling security.  I cant get a connection, same problem
[09:23] <RadiantFire> schukeks: #kubuntu-de fur deutsche fragen
[09:24] <schukeks> sorry
[09:24] <agady> bky: try deleting, or better yet, moving the .kde folder in your home folder somewhere else
[09:24] <bky> ok. i'll go try that. brb
[09:26] <clement_> tinashe
[09:37] <bky> ok i found out something new
[09:38] <bky> it said when i tried to move that file that the device was full
[09:38] <bky> but when i did it as sudo it worked
[09:38] <bky> so i ran mount
[09:38] <bky> and it had my main drive as "rw,errors"
[09:38] <thill2708> what is the deal with reading sd cards on the laptop? I keep getting this in my dmesg: [152689.084000]  mmcblk0: error 1 sending read/write command
[09:38] <bky> does that mean the partition is currupted?
[09:39] <bky> reguardless the inability for my user to write to the drive is likely the cause of my login problem
[09:39] <RawSewage> Nvidia driver update today
[09:39] <bky> now that i look the drive is full. :S
[09:40] <agady> did it work bky?
[09:40] <lenny_> need some help!
[09:40] <bky> no
[09:40] <agady> hmmm
[09:40] <thill2708> anybody know of a fix for reading sd cards in teh card reader?
[09:40] <agady> are you sure there are no error messages?
[09:40] <bky> no but i think it's the drive now causing the problem (somehow)
[09:41] <bky> does "rw,errors[somethingelsehereiforger] " mean the partition is currupt?
[09:41] <agady> when you try to startX?
[09:42] <bky> no, it says nothing then. but when i tried to move .kde i found that it said the device was full, so i looked at mount and it said that under my main drive
[09:42] <bky> nothing of interest that is
[09:42] <KevinAlaska> I am looking for a command that searches all sub folders and deletes all files that end with -1.jpg, -2.jpg, -3.jpg etc.  The directory is /home/myname/Photos.  I am in need of this because I have just imported all photos from all the different years of back ups and when the file is a duplicate name it renames the new ones with the -1 etc before the .jpg extentsion.  Bad news is I was given this command over a week ago, good news is that my none
[09:44] <lenny_> how to clean the "history" of the searches made ?? i mean, in K menu, search files/directories
[09:45] <agady> bky: can you go to your home folder and then run cp -r .kde .kde.bak and post the output
[09:55] <MidMark> why I don't receive the new .16 kernel but only restricted, nvidia driver and libc dev?
[09:56] <MidMark> you have received new kernel via adept?
[09:59] <agady> i believe <IP_ADDRESS>.14 is the altest kernel version midmark
[10:06] <MidMark> agady: not according to the last restricted modules that update manager want to install in my pc and according to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2007-May/000536.html
[10:12] <com13error> hi all
[10:12] <com13error> help me about ATI on kubuntu.
[10:17] <agady> midmark: your right, I was looking at linux-image-generic which still depends on linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic, which is probably why -16 isn't being installed.
[10:19] <MidMark> agady: yes
[10:20] <MidMark> com13error`: !ask
[10:20] <MidMark> !ask
[10:20] <MidMark> mmm
[10:21] <com13error`> my card x600
[10:21] <com13error`> i would like to install beryl packet.
[10:21] <lenny__> Hi. how can i clean the "history" of searches made in Kmenu>find files...?
[10:24] <MidMark> com13error`: install them
[10:24] <MidMark> what is the problem???
[10:25] <MidMark> com13error`: if you don't explain what is your problem none can help you here
[10:26] <kraut> moin
[10:31] <Jack3> how can i add a program to be started at boot
[10:33] <agady> lenny__
[10:33] <agady> the history is stored in /<home>/.kde/share/config/kfindrc where <home> is your home folder
[10:35] <MidMark> Jack3: put the link in .kde/Autostart
[10:36] <MidMark> but will starts only for your user
[10:36] <MidMark> if it's a deamon then they way to do that is different
[10:38] <lenny__> Thanks, agady!
[10:39] <agady> you're welcome
[10:49] <crazy_bus> I'm trying t play a .mp4 file in kaffeine.  mp4's usually play in it but this one doesn't and comes up with this error.  xine: couldn't find demux for
[10:50] <mikkael> is it possible to get red of that 1 pixel line as shown in this screenshot: http://www.divshare.com/image/full/730647-81b
[10:50] <mikkael> *get rid
[10:52] <mike_> i have installed the mplayer plugin for firefox; some wmv file play embeded in the browser, but others open a new window to play; is there a way th make there all play embeded in the browser?
[10:53] <mike_> open in new windo as in they open the mplayer app to play
[10:56] <Boje> moinsen
[10:57] <kumamoto> does anyone know how to get the urls part of development application like bluefish to work
[10:58] <_6StringKng_> anyway I can have it clear the text on connect?
[11:06] <pisq> where do you mount a hard drive in a compaq presario box, mine is just dangling from its wires in bottom of box?
[11:10] <khaije1> i'm looking to chart out the power usage and battery life for my laptop, any ideas?
[11:13] <_6StringKng_> anyone know how to fix a mic ground issue?
[11:16] <hugolp> Hi
[11:16] <hugolp> why does kubuntu doesnt allow me to install gimp?
[11:16] <nirmal> i have installed Kubuntu then ubuntu-desktop upon it
[11:16] <TimGroe> what error comes up, hugolp ?
[11:17] <hugolp> TimGroe:  I go to install new program in the kde main menu and its just grey, it wont select
[11:17] <hugolp> I have been Ubuntu user, but I am new to kubuntu
[11:17] <TimGroe> click "Run Command" and type in adept_manager
[11:18] <hugolp> ok, so I am in a similar synaptic thing from ubuntu
[11:19] <TimGroe> yes :)
[11:19] <TimGroe> there you go!
[11:19] <nirmal> i am getting both topbar and bottom bar of kde kicker in kde session
[11:19] <BlindSIde> adept is nice
[11:19] <TimGroe> That is the Kubuntu / KDE version
[11:19] <TimGroe> ( of Synaptic )
[11:19] <hugolp> I had use it before
[11:20] <nirmal> how do i fix my sessions
[11:20] <hugolp> when I search for gimp it only comes up libgtk1.2
[11:20] <RawSewage> System Settings
[11:20] <RawSewage> Second tab
[11:20] <hugolp> thats the graphics engine for gnome is it?
[11:20] <TimGroe> nirmal: What's wrong with it ?
[11:20] <TimGroe> GTK is "Graphical Toolkit"
[11:20] <nirmal> with gnome session its working fine
[11:20] <BlindSIde> yeah gimp needs GTK
[11:20] <hugolp> its allredy installed so I guess is kde as well
[11:20] <nirmal> but when i choose kde session both the top bar and bottom kde=bar are also coming
[11:21] <hugolp> so why I cannot install gimp?
[11:21] <BlindSIde> try adding repositories
[11:21] <TimGroe> hugolp: could you take a screenshot of any errors that you get?
[11:21] <TimGroe> or does it not show up at all?
[11:21] <nirmal> TimGroe: is it for me
[11:21] <hugolp> TimGroe:  I dont get any errors, when I go to Add program I go to graphics and then there is GIMP but its all grey and is not selectable
[11:22] <TimGroe> nirmal: no :P
[11:22] <TimGroe> well, use adept_manager
[11:22] <TimGroe> and in search look for gimp
[11:22] <TimGroe> and install it there :)
[11:22] <TimGroe> just right click on it and say "Request Install" and press "Apply"
[11:23] <hugolp> TimGroe:  when I go to adept_manager and search for GIMP I only get the libgtk1.2 wich is allredy installed
[11:24] <hugolp> I though something like gimp would be alredy installed in kubuntu, guess I am used to Ubuntu
[11:24] <hugolp> no one has installed GIMP or any other graphics program in kubuntu?
[11:25] <TimGroe> OK
[11:25] <alexicon> hi everyone
[11:25] <TimGroe> goto manage repositories
[11:25] <TimGroe> and make sure they are all enabled
[11:25] <alexicon> is gimp not in the main repo??
[11:25] <TimGroe> yes.
[11:26] <alexicon> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[11:26] <alexicon> i swear
[11:26] <alexicon> everytime i tell gnome to NOT change my keyboard setting it does
[11:26] <sakabatou> major kde update?
[11:26] <alexicon> ... todays updates broke my desktop
[11:26] <TimGroe> sabakas1: yes :)
[11:26] <TimGroe> KDE 3.5.7
[11:26] <alexicon> kernel updates, and nvidia
[11:27] <nirmal> TimGroe: do i need to reconfigure kde?
[11:27] <sakabatou> just woke up, updating ;D
[11:27] <hugolp> TimGroe:  where are the repos list? I cant find the menu
[11:27] <TimGroe> nirmal: I didn't have to, not for the KDE 3.5.7 update
[11:28] <gnomefreak> hugolp: repos are kept in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:28] <TimGroe> hugolp: Adept --> Manage repositories
[11:28] <Crossover-Holic> hiii alll
[11:29] <Crossover-Holic> can u help me
[11:29] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: depends, if you need psycological (mind my spelling)  I can't help you :P
[11:30] <Crossover-Holic> i can't using my adept manager for update
[11:31] <TimGroe> hugolp: how is it going?
[11:31] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: trying to update to a new version of Ubuntu?
[11:31] <hugolp> I am editing manually sources.list cant find the repos graphic meju
[11:31] <Crossover-Holic> it say onli root privilage can modify this
[11:31] <hugolp> ok, I see now
[11:32] <hugolp> linuxmce edited my source list to only one mirror and thats why I can get GIMP
[11:32] <hugolp> I cant get GIMP*
[11:32] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: then you need to use sudo
[11:33] <_4strO> kdesu
[11:33] <TimGroe> hugolp: deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main restricted
[11:33] <Crossover-Holic> ohh
[11:33] <Crossover-Holic> i see
[11:33] <hugolp> thanks TimGroe
[11:33] <RawSewage> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000870.html
[11:34] <Crossover-Holic> how about install nvidia driver
[11:34] <Crossover-Holic> i cant resolve it
[11:34] <TimGroe> Google for a program called "envy"
[11:35] <hugolp> TimGroe:  I though the nvidia driver was in the repos
[11:35] <hugolp> I installed it from the repos
[11:36] <TimGroe> hugolp: it is, but Envy installs newer (beta) drivers, which are somewhat better then the ones in the (K)Ubuntu repos
[11:36] <hugolp> ok
[11:36] <hugolp> repo's ones work fine for me
[11:36] <Crossover-Holic> what is envy?
[11:36] <jussi01> !envy
[11:36] <jussi01> gah, bot is dead
[11:36] <TimGroe> it is a tool that enables easy install of nVidia / ATI drivers
[11:37] <TimGroe> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[11:38] <Crossover-Holic> where can i downlaod it
[11:38] <TimGroe> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[11:38] <jussi01> Crossover-Holic: at that address above
[11:38] <TimGroe> Sorry jussi01 :P
[11:38] <jussi01> :P
[11:38] <Crossover-Holic> i have finish to install Ragnarok but the graphic is very bad
[11:38] <TimGroe> [19:38:32]  <TimGroe> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[11:38] <TimGroe> [19:38:32]  <jussi01> Crossover-Holic: at that address above
[11:39] <TimGroe> Great timing though!
[11:39] <jussi01> yeah, very good
[11:39] <jussi01> :P
[11:39] <Crossover-Holic> thank's bro
[11:40] <Crossover-Holic> someone here using crossover
[11:40] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: make sure you select (one of) the last  option to remove nvidia drivers BEFORE you install them from Envy
[11:40] <TimGroe> *also* make sure you do not restart the X server after uninstalling nVidia drivers
[11:41] <TimGroe> apart from that it's all good :)
[11:41] <Crossover-Holic> oc
[11:41] <Crossover-Holic> this channel is very helpful
[11:44] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe: that's ok to install on kubuntu
[11:45] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: Well, I have used it, and only had small issues on both 6.06 and 7.04
[11:45] <TimGroe> :)
[11:45] <TimGroe> * and 6.10
[11:45] <Crossover-Holic> o
[11:47] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: it should work, it is written in Python :)
[11:50] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe:  the size of envy is 400 kb is that right
[11:50] <TimGroe> yes
[11:50] <Crossover-Holic> sory if any wrong word
[11:50] <Crossover-Holic> :)
[11:50] <TimGroe> No, it is OK :)
[11:51] <Crossover-Holic> its .deb format
[11:52] <TimGroe> Yes
[11:52] <Crossover-Holic> how to install it
[11:52] <TimGroe> you need to right click on it
[11:52] <Crossover-Holic> and
[11:52] <TimGroe> goto Kubuntu Package Menu
[11:52] <TimGroe> and goto Install
[11:52] <Crossover-Holic> no need to kill kdm
[11:52] <TimGroe> :|
[11:52] <TimGroe> no you do not
[11:52] <TimGroe> not yet :P
[11:53] <Crossover-Holic> ok
[11:53] <Crossover-Holic> i'll try now
[11:55] <hugolp> HI
[11:55] <hugolp> Hi
[11:55] <hugolp> I solved the repos problem and I am installing gimp thanks
[11:55] <TimGroe> hugolp: no problems
[11:55] <TimGroe> :)
[11:56] <hugolp> Another thing: when I go into the kde desktop after writing the login and the pasword it ask me to enter the pasword for a sudo su command
[11:56] <hugolp> I just cancel because I dont know waht is it about
[11:56] <TimGroe> strange.
[11:56] <hugolp> how can I look what its being loaded at start
[11:56] <RawSewage> Maybe go to System Settings -> Advanced -> Sessions
[11:57] <RawSewage> and change it to Start with Empty Session
[11:57] <TimGroe> in a konsole, type cd ~/.kde/Autostart/
[11:57] <RawSewage> Which I think should be the default
[11:57] <TimGroe> and then " ls "
[11:58] <phoenix__> hi, i have ISDN ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISDN ) working (in terminal  pon/poff) can't get it working with kppp, my problem now is, that i can surf the internet with firefox but not with konqueror, konqueror open no websites
[11:59] <nirmal> your konqueror is not properly installed
[11:59] <klon> j
[11:59] <nirmal> was it working properly previously?
[12:00] <phoenix__> nirmal: konqueror is properly installed, if i go to a frined of mine and connect with dsl the konqueror work very well
[12:00] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe: it's say error
[12:01] <Crossover-Holic> and i've already remove it
[12:01] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: did you do the force uninstall first?
[12:01] <hugolp> TimGroe:  I get only xhost doing ls at kde/autostart
[12:01] <TimGroe> and have you removed all the nvidia* packages from adept?
[12:01] <TimGroe> hugolp: :|
[12:01] <Crossover-Holic> i've reinstall my kubuntu
[12:01] <TimGroe> hugolp: maybe that causes it?
[12:02] <Crossover-Holic> and never install nvidia driver before
[12:02] <hugolp> have no idea what xhost is
[12:02] <TimGroe> OK, rm -rf xhost then :P
[12:02] <hugolp> mmmm
[12:02] <hugolp> I am not sure I want to do that
[12:02] <hugolp> Ill google it first
[12:02] <TimGroe> Crossover-Holic: well, then make sure there is nothing starting with nvidia installed in adept
[12:02] <hugolp> thanks
[12:02] <TimGroe> OK :)
[12:03] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe: i was reinstall my kubuntu and never install nvidia driver before
[12:03] <Crossover-Holic> ohh
[12:03] <Crossover-Holic> ok
[12:04] <Crossover-Holic> apt-get remove envy
[12:04] <Crossover-Holic> is that ok
[12:04] <TimGroe> yes, it is :)
[12:04] <TimGroe> but ... don't you want to try it?
[12:05] <Crossover-Holic> try what?
[12:05] <TimGroe> try Envy
[12:05] <TimGroe> after you have removed all nvidia packages (if there are any)
[12:05] <Crossover-Holic> it's cant open
[12:05] <TimGroe> :|
[12:06] <TimGroe> envy -g or envy -t ?
[12:06] <TimGroe> won't open :S
[12:06] <Crossover-Holic> but.. i've remove it
[12:06] <TimGroe> oh, dw then xD
[12:06] <Crossover-Holic> i'll reinstall envy
[12:07] <Crossover-Holic> it's python need
[12:08] <Crossover-Holic> it's need python
[12:08] <TimGroe> yes
[12:09] <TimGroe> sudo apt-get python
[12:11] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe: how to show "show destop" icon in panel menu
[12:12] <TimGroe> right click on an empty spot
[12:12] <TimGroe> click add aplet
[12:12] <TimGroe> and find "Show Desktop"
[12:12] <TimGroe> and press "ADD"
[12:13] <ardchoille> Crossover-Holic: If you're like me and have no empty spaces on the panel, you can right-click on the kmenu button and choose "Panel Menu"
[12:13] <Crossover-Holic> hehehe
[12:13] <Crossover-Holic> thank's man
[12:13] <Crossover-Holic> oh i see
[12:18] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe: when i using adept and search nvidia, nvidia kernel common is installed
[12:18] <Crossover-Holic> what should i do
[12:18] <TimGroe> just leave it :P
[12:18] <Crossover-Holic> no nedd to remove?
[12:20] <TimGroe> no
[12:21] <Etokura> Does anyone here know much about python?
[12:21] <ardchoille> Crossover-Holic: I have nvidia drivers working and I still have nvidia-kernel-common installed
[12:40] <martint> Hi to all, kubuntu7.04 AMD64. installed beryl, now (even I hecked everything out and uninstalled beryl and even dekorator) my comp is sloooow and beryl visual efects are still working. WHat can I do?
[12:41] <TimGroe> martint: do you have an ATI / nVidia card?
[12:42] <martint> nvidia
[12:42] <TimGroe> hmmm
[12:42] <TimGroe> ** scratches head
[12:43] <martint> :)
[12:44] <martint> Gforce5200 FX
[12:46] <wharf001> Hi all
[12:47] <wharf001> I have kubuntu festy fawn thingy.
[12:47] <wharf001> how do i activate beryl
[12:47] <wharf001> i installed it using package manager
[12:47] <wharf001> and the ati support thing
[12:47] <wharf001> not sure how to actualy tell it to start
[12:47] <martint> Wharf - DO NOT USE BERYL!!!!! (Unless you know what you are doing...) read the warnings about it in forum
[12:47] <belfegor> hello
[12:48] <belfegor> my firestarter could be the problem for not seeing any computer on my network?
[12:48] <wharf001> wel thats why i came here.
[12:48] <Jucato> !beryl | wharf001
[12:48] <Jucato> ugh ubotu's lagging again...
[12:48] <Jucato> wharf001: there are links to guides in the topic of #ubuntu-effects
[12:49] <martint> wharf -good luck, it does look very good, but it makes troubles.
[12:50] <wharf001> ouch
[12:50] <wharf001> what kinda troubles?
[12:51] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe: what now
[12:51] <Crossover-Holic> TimGroe: the envy is installed
[12:52] <martint> computer goes slow (at least I've seen it in some possts in forum and ti happend to me)
[12:52] <wharf001> ouch lol
[12:52] <martint> But for other portential problems you should chekc the forum...
[12:52] <wharf001> do you think kubunu screwed up by releasing it?
[12:52] <wharf001> hehe
[12:53] <martint> nop...
[12:53] <martint> If it is a comp you experiment with , it is totaly worth playing with . if you work with the comp , dont try it
[12:54] <wharf001> na its just to mess with
[12:54] <wharf001> making a new tower tomorow :D
[12:54] <martint> good :b, then tryt it, its very nice
[12:54] <wharf001> whats annoying is, i have install the effects..
[12:54] <wharf001> yet
[12:54] <wharf001> nothings changed.
[12:54] <wharf001> lol
[12:55] <martint> ??
[12:55] <wharf001> i mean
[12:55] <wharf001> you know pakcage manager
[12:55] <wharf001> i installed ati support and desktop effects
[12:55] <wharf001> closed it
[12:55] <wharf001> thats all i done
[12:55] <logixoul> guys, any clue as to why this is happening? http://www.warst.com/images/uploads/2007-05-25/yakbug6cde.png
[12:55] <martint> interesting, Ive seen seom posts in forum about it, but for me it worked directly after installing through packman
[12:55] <logixoul> the yakuake maintainer said it might be driver problems
[12:56] <alexicon> hey do any of you in kubuntu fiesty have a problem where your application window locks to the max size across one axis
[12:56] <wharf001> i'll brb
[12:56] <martint> good luck again
[12:57] <alexicon> i have it on my desktop and not sure if its a nvidia twinview problem or gnome or what
[12:57] <Etokura> Does anyone here know much about python?
[01:03] <Crossover-holic> TimGroe: u there
[01:09] <sorsis> if i use adept, why doesn't it see all packages that apt-get and apt-cache sees?
[01:11] <jean-benoit> !fr
[01:11] <jean-benoit> fr!
[01:11] <pag> !!fr | jean-benoit
[01:11] <jean-benoit> !fr
[01:11] <ubotu> jean-benoit: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:13] <lz1gjd> i know its not the right place to ask but could anyone tell me how to make combine several pictures into one, each of the pictures is like 2500x2500 so its not easy to do this manually. is there a program that could do this ?
[01:20] <DJServers> ey\
[01:25] <dromer> hey all, I just did a complete new install on my system using ."my-packages" and such. I copied my old /home dir to another disk (with cp -r) and now I want to replace my current /home with it. I already tried it from live cd, but apperantly it didn't work too well, I can't start kde anymore, I checked to chmod -R 766 my home dir, but I still can't startup kde
[01:26] <dromer> lz1gjd: you mean stitch htem together?
[01:26] <dromer> lz1gjd: there are panorama tools for that, chechk out hugin
[01:26] <lz1gjd>
[01:26] <lz1gjd> oops, yes
[01:26] <dromer> !hugin
[01:26] <lz1gjd> okz, thx
[01:26] <robbie> !samba
[01:26] <dromer> lz1gjd: there are very good howto's out there, google for them
[01:27] <robbie> !kubuntu
[01:27] <lz1gjd> i'd like to create one huge map out of some smaller pieces.
[01:28] <dromer> lz1gjd: I can't access my browser atm so I can't give you my links, but you can find them on google
[01:28] <dromer> search for hugin panorama howto or something
[01:28] <dromer> lz1gjd: you stil need a program for stitching and stuff, look around :)
[01:28] <robbie> hello : just installed kubuntu - having problem connecting to samba share - getting timeout error within 3 sec -  any ideas? (works fine with fresh install of ubuntu)
[01:30] <DJServers> robbie:  ubuntu is the same ass kubuntu so dont ask me :P
[01:30] <robbie> same same but different ....:)
[01:31] <DJServers> yeah :P\
[01:31] <robbie> !uboto
[01:32] <DJServers> !kubuntu
[01:32] <robbie> hey is that uboto on holiday?????
[01:32] <DJServers> wtf are the bots offline or something
[01:33] <crimsun> it's likely just having network issues.
[01:33] <DJServers> ok
[01:34] <DJServers> dus MIRC works on linux?
[01:34] <DJServers> i want to run a GTA:SA MTa Script on it
[01:34] <DJServers> some one now?
[01:34] <defcon_> how do I change the priority of a process
[01:34] <busfahrer> I think it works with Wine
[01:34] <DJServers> busfahrer: where can i download that?
[01:35] <defcon_> !renice
[01:36] <DJServers> !mirc
[01:37] <Etokura> apt-get install wine
[01:45] <DJServers> Where can i download MIRC for Linux??????
[01:45] <TimGroe> DJServers: the same place you download it for Windows :P
[01:45] <TimGroe> then you need to install Wine
[01:45] <TimGroe> :)
[01:45] <DJServers> Wine?
[01:45] <DJServers> waht Wine
[01:45] <TimGroe> Wine is not an emulator
[01:46] <TimGroe> it allows Windows apps to run on Linux
[01:46] <DJServers> what does wine?\
[01:46] <TimGroe> not all of them
[01:46] <TimGroe> but some
[01:46] <DJServers> o ok
[01:46] <hugolp> Hi
[01:46] <DJServers> where cani download that? just look on goole?
[01:46] <hugolp> I am looking for a simple program to do grahpics, something like windows paint
[01:46] <TimGroe> wine, get it from adept_manager
[01:47] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: its me crossover-holic
[01:47] <TimGroe> Hidey Hoe
[01:47] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: thank's man for the elvy
[01:47] <|^RiaN^|> upss
[01:47] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: thank's man for the envy
[01:47] <TimGroe> you got it working?
[01:48] <|^RiaN^|> tess
[01:48] <TimGroe> \o/
[01:48] <|^RiaN^|> yess
[01:48] <|^RiaN^|> hehehe
[01:48] <TimGroe> shweeeeeeeeet
[01:48] <TimGroe> xD
[01:48] <|^RiaN^|> :)
[01:48] <TimGroe> you like it?
[01:48] <|^RiaN^|> veeryy
[01:48] <TimGroe> :)
[01:48] <DJServers> i cant find adept_manager in k menu where it stands?
[01:49] <TimGroe> K Menu --> System --> Adept Manager
[01:49] <DJServers> o lol
[01:49] <DJServers> i am blind :P\
[01:49] <TimGroe> hmmmmmm
[01:49] <TimGroe> :
[01:49] <TimGroe> :P
[01:49] <|^RiaN^|> if no sudo apt-get install adept-manager
[01:49] <DJServers> lol
[01:49] <|^RiaN^|> hehehe
[01:49] <DJServers> loading
[01:50] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: u ever play gunbound
[01:50] <TimGroe> once
[01:50] <TimGroe> I work mostly on my own OS / Multimedia App these days |^RiaN^|
[01:50] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|: kVric too now I see?
[01:50] <|^RiaN^|> gunbound it's a game
[01:50] <TimGroe> *kVirc
[01:50] <TimGroe> I know what it is :P
[01:51] <|^RiaN^|> ;)
[01:51] <TimGroe> do you like it?
[01:51] <|^RiaN^|> i want to install it
[01:51] <DJServers> what is the full name off wine?
[01:51] <|^RiaN^|> where to download GB
[01:51] <TimGroe> install what?
[01:51] <TimGroe> DJServers: wine
[01:51] <TimGroe> :P
[01:51] <|^RiaN^|> just wine
[01:51] <TimGroe> there is a repo you have to add
[01:51] <PhinnFort> !wine
[01:51] <Doc_Brown> hello. my kubuntu installation is running graphically slow. ie feels like no ati drivers are installed. is there some utility to install opengl or faster graphics drivers for some of the games?
[01:51] <TimGroe> to get the latest version
[01:52] <PhinnFort> darn that bot
[01:52] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: is gunbound running with wine
[01:52] <TimGroe> tes
[01:52] <TimGroe> * yes
[01:52] <PhinnFort> !wine
[01:52] <pybotu> tibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:53] <TimGroe> DJServers: don't listen to that :P
[01:53] <TimGroe> follow http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[01:53] <TimGroe> then you get the latest version
[01:53] <TimGroe> a new version is released ~ every 2 weeks, and each new version supports more stuff :)
[01:53] <DJServers> ok
[01:54] <TimGroe> sorry PhinnFort, but I believe that a new Wine is a good Wine
[01:55] <lz1gjd> how do you disable wine output in the konsole when you start an app, whats the command line switch?
[01:55] <TimGroe> the Wine in Kubuntu is about 8 version old IIRC
[01:55] <PhinnFort> I prefer some old wine;)
[01:55] <PhinnFort> I use the wine from the wine headquarters myself
[01:55] <TimGroe> heh :)
[01:55] <PhinnFort> but I just made my own ubotu replacement, that I wanted to try out;)
[01:55] <TimGroe> ooooohhhhhhh
[01:55] <PhinnFort> since ubotu has been going down lately
[01:55] <TimGroe> :)
[01:55] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:55] <TimGroe> add it to #advantedge
[01:56] <TimGroe> :}
[01:56] <PhinnFort> !hi
[01:56] <pybotu>  Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[01:56] <PhinnFort> not perfect, but works, until ubotu returns
[01:56] <pybotu>  Hi! Welcome to $chan!
[01:56] <TimGroe> I like Supybot :P
[01:57] <PhinnFort> well, I didn't care for running the whole shebang;)
[01:57] <PhinnFort> pybotu is 67 lines, with comments and lots of whitespaces;)
[01:58] <DJServers> What has wine to do whit mysql?
[01:58] <PhinnFort> ?
[01:58] <robbie> any one know how to get flash going on konqueror (youtube etc)?
[01:58] <PhinnFort> robbie: 64-bit?
[01:58] <PhinnFort> !flash
[01:58] <pybotu>  To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[01:59] <robbie> 32 bit
[01:59] <PhinnFort> robbie: look at that link then
[02:01] <TimGroe> DJServers: how is Wine comming along?
[02:02] <robbie> PhinnFort : thanks - it going now :)\
[02:02] <DJServers> its installed
[02:02] <DJServers> now downloading mirc
[02:03] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: u know what software to use for billing
[02:03] <|^RiaN^|> i have cyber cafe
[02:03] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|: ummm
[02:03] <TimGroe> not off the top of my head :(
[02:03] <TimGroe> sorry :(
[02:04] <TimGroe> Google around a little?
[02:04] <|^RiaN^|> i see
[02:04] <TimGroe> Do a seach in Adept?
[02:04] <|^RiaN^|> it's not there
[02:04] <TimGroe> yeah, so I see
[02:04] <TimGroe> dunno
[02:04] <TimGroe> ssorry
[02:04] <DJServers> where the hell can i juse wine now?
[02:05] <TimGroe> yes :)
[02:05] <TimGroe> right click any exe and say "Open with wine"
[02:05] <|^RiaN^|> i've looking every website with it
[02:05] <azaghal> Hello. Can someone tell me how does (K)Ubuntu's kernel achieve ulimit -l unlimited for regular users?
[02:06] <DJServers> open whit wine file?\
[02:06] <TimGroe> yes
[02:06] <DJServers> ey it works!
[02:06] <DJServers> i luf you :P\
[02:07] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: how to create user like "guest" in windows
[02:07] <DJServers> whaha :P
[02:07] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|: just create a new user
[02:07] <|^RiaN^|> i;ve create it
[02:07] <TimGroe> and dont put him in sudoers
[02:07] <TimGroe> in /etc/sudoers
[02:08] <|^RiaN^|> but everytime they want to use they removeable disk it's cant mount
[02:08] <DJServers> TimGroe i have installed it now but how to run it?
[02:08] <TimGroe> I have a "Windows Programs" menu here :S
[02:08] <DJServers> ? where ?
[02:09] <TimGroe> DJServers: in K
[02:09] <glenn> Hi there. Anyone know of a way to see a files creation time? Not modified! For finding out when i.e. a logg file was started (created), where the modified time would alwasy be NOW as it is continously written to...
[02:09] <DJServers> nothin stands there
[02:09] <DJServers> there is one on the desktop
[02:09] <glenn> man ls doesn't say anything about it (Creating time)...
[02:09] <DJServers> that the prog but when i klik on it it ask for a program to run it whit
[02:09] <TimGroe> well, in a Konsole, type wine C:/programs file/<name>/my.exe xD
[02:09] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: can Gunbound running with crossover
[02:10] <sobersabre> hi guys.
[02:10] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^| Dunno
[02:10] <sobersabre> is there a fax application for ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[02:10] <TimGroe> have not used CXOffice in YEARS
[02:10] <slop> i installed ubuntustudio, and now when i reboot, i get a gnarly blue screen that tells me x cannot start...but if i choose the regular kernel in grub (not the low latency one for ubuntustudio), it works fine...any ideas?
[02:10] <sobersabre> I need to receive and send faxes.
[02:10] <sobersabre> if possible
[02:10] <TimGroe> (ie, 3 months(
[02:10] <|^RiaN^|> im using crossover pro 6
[02:11] <TimGroe> sobersabre: efax good for you//
[02:11] <DJServers> TimGroe:  what do i typ in the place of <name> : C:/programs file/<name>/my.exe
[02:11] <TimGroe> the directory and file name of the installed app
[02:11] <TimGroe> from the installer :)
[02:12] <DJServers> and where can i see that :p
[02:12] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: how to configure LAN connection on damn small linux
[02:12] <TimGroe> In the KDE run window, type ~/.wine/drive_c
[02:12] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|: #dsl ?
[02:12] <|^RiaN^|> yess
[02:12] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|: #damnsmalllinux ?
[02:12] <TimGroe> #completelyofftopicthisisubuntunotdsl ?
[02:13] <|^RiaN^|> im using dsl on my workstation
[02:13] <Jucato> |^RiaN^|: please try to ask in DSL's channel or forum. this channel is for Kubuntu. thanks
[02:14] <lz1gjd> is there a way to install a fully functional kubuntu on on an usb stick , like being able to install additional programs later and saving settings
[02:14] <lz1gjd> maybe normal install should work but mine usb stick is 2 gb and a normal installation takes about 1.8gb
[02:14] <sobersabre> TimGroe: thanks! have you actually used it ?
[02:14] <TimGroe> sobersabre: I use a real fax machine now, but I used to :)
[02:15] <sobersabre> TimGroe: do fax machine fax filtering ?
[02:15] <DJServers> it doenst work! grrrr
[02:15] <TimGroe> sobersabre: say that in english :P
[02:15] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: how to install java with format .bin
[02:15] <DJServers> here it is located: /home/frank/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/General Use Scripts            but what do i type to start?
[02:16] <TimGroe> DJServers: file name too :)
[02:16] <sobersabre> can one configure a fax machine to filter which faxes to RCV and which not to RCV ?
[02:16] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|: say chmod +x <file name>
[02:16] <sobersabre> TimGroe: by CallerID, e.g.
[02:16] <TimGroe> and then ./<file name>
[02:16] <|^RiaN^|> DJS
[02:16] <DJServers> like this? /home/frank/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/General Use Scripts/mirc.exe
[02:16] <TimGroe> sobersabre: I do not know
[02:16] <TimGroe> but it could save faxes :P
[02:16] <DJServers> o just: ./mirc.exe
[02:16] <|^RiaN^|> DJServers: using a konsole
[02:16] <DJServers> yeah
[02:16] <|^RiaN^|> go to the program direktory
[02:17] <DJServers> what?
[02:17] <TimGroe> MP
[02:17] <TimGroe> * NO
[02:17] <sobersabre> TimGroe: ok, anyway, With efax will I be getting all the faxes as files, and will be able to decide which one to print ?
[02:17] <DJServers> direktory?
[02:17] <TimGroe> wine "c:/Program Files/General Use Scripts/mirc.exe"
[02:17] <TimGroe> yeah
[02:17] <TimGroe> sobersabre: yeah
[02:17] <saurus> hi
[02:17] <|^RiaN^|> DJServers: example mirc go to the dir and type wine mirc.exe
[02:17] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|: no :P
[02:17] <DJServers> TimGroe:  i luf you again :P
[02:17] <|^RiaN^|> :)
[02:18] <TimGroe> full path is better
[02:18] <|^RiaN^|> ok
[02:18] <|^RiaN^|> i see
[02:18] <TimGroe> sorry |^RiaN^| :P
[02:18] <|^RiaN^|> it's okay
[02:19] <DJServers> TimGroe:  i luf you so  much :P lol
[02:19] <|^RiaN^|> hieheiei
[02:19] <TimGroe> awwwwwww
[02:19] <TimGroe> DJServers: thanks :)
[02:19] <TimGroe> Pass it on
[02:19] <TimGroe> (the help, not the love)
[02:19] <Jucato> lz1gjd: maybe this is what you're looking for? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[02:20] <Etokura> !kdm
[02:20] <ubotwo> kdm - X display manager for KDE - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[02:20] <pybotu> Term not found.
[02:20] <lz1gjd> Jucato: thx
[02:20] <Etokura> How do I set kdm as the default display manager?
[02:20] <DJServers> yeah i am connected to my server
[02:21] <TimGroe> Etokura: do sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm --force
[02:21] <TimGroe> and select kdm
[02:21] <TimGroe> ( in a konsole )
[02:22] <Etokura> Is there much of a difference?
[02:22] <TimGroe> not really
[02:22] <|^RiaN^|> TimGroe: how to install java with format .bin
[02:22] <TimGroe> |^RiaN^|:  I told you up there ^^^^^^^^
[02:22] <|^RiaN^|> lol
[02:23] <|^RiaN^|> ive miss it
[02:23] <Jucato> !java
[02:23] <ubotwo> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[02:23] <Jucato> (there's no need to use the .bin installer
[02:24] <|^RiaN^|> ive download the .bin format
[02:24] <|^RiaN^|> now i'll go to install it
[02:24] <Jucato> when you could have just easily installed it from Add/Remove or Adept Manager :)
[02:29] <Etokura> ng kdm
[02:29] <Etokura> I won't be using kdm
[02:29] <TimGroe> ng ?
[02:30] <Etokura> It lagged and cut me off
[02:30] <TimGroe> :S
[02:30] <TimGroe> damn
[02:30] <Etokura> When I boot with kdm it gives me a black screen with a small white terminal
[02:31] <Etokura> No GUI
[02:31] <TimGroe> :|
[02:31] <TimGroe> bugger
[02:31] <tom_> hi all how do i check if my cpu is 64bit capable?
[02:32] <TimGroe> tom_: how old is it, what is it's model?
[02:32] <tom_> its a core duo
[02:32] <TimGroe> what number?
[02:32] <tom_> T2250
[02:32] <TimGroe> ( I * think * all core duos are 64 bit )
[02:33] <^RiaN^> yes
[02:33] <tom_> hmmm is there much of a speed boost on 64 bit?
[02:33] <^RiaN^> all core duo
[02:33] <tom_> should i take the leap :P ?
[02:34] <TimGroe> tom_: not really, IN MY opionion
[02:34] <TimGroe> alot of apps need work to run in a 64 bit environment
[02:34] <TimGroe> like Flash
[02:34] <tom_> kk, i mite download th live cd and have a look
[02:34] <david2> what's the users trash folder for kde?
[02:34] <tom_> yea i heard about installing 32 bit firefox
[02:34] <david2> is is ~/.trash
[02:34] <TimGroe> david2: ~/.Trash
[02:34] <TimGroe> :)
[02:34] <david2> Cool
[02:35] <TimGroe> tom_: yeah, but 32bit firefox needs 32bit Linux libraries :P
[02:35] <david2> I want to run konqueror as root for simplicities sake
[02:35] <TimGroe> which means you do not gain all that much
[02:35] <tom_> but any open source software should run fine on 64 bit as good as 32 yes?
[02:35] <david2> but I want to make it look different so I deffinately know I have root privs
[02:35] <tom_> or better
[02:35] <TimGroe> no, some still do not run good on 64 bit yet
[02:35] <TimGroe> most do
[02:36] <tom_> oh kk thanks, im probly best just downloading the live and having a look lol
[02:37] <brandon> how do u install programs like adobe flash player?
[02:38] <crimsun> install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:38] <crimsun> (multiverse)
[02:38] <lz1gjd> you could use automatix too
[02:38] <lz1gjd> its a great script
[02:38] <lz1gjd> !automatix
[02:38] <brandon> whenever i try to download it in kubuntu it wont open up
[02:38] <ubotwo> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:39] <dak> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[02:39] <lz1gjd> what the ?
[02:39] <dak> ;)
[02:39] <lz1gjd> why is that ? ive never had any problems with automatix
[02:39] <Jucato> !worksforme
[02:39] <ubotwo> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:40] <dak> why install that 3rd party app when all you need to do is edit 1 line and run apt or a apt front end
[02:40] <Jucato> actually on feisty, you don't need to edit anything
[02:42] <brandon> am i supposed to downloa dflash as a tar.gz.?
[02:42] <dak> brandon: you have x86 right ?
[02:43] <brandon> ?
[02:43] <brandon> dunno
[02:43] <dak> odds are you do
[02:43] <dak> uname -a
[02:44] <brandon> whats x86?
[02:44] <dak> will tell ya
[02:44] <lz1gjd> is there any chance that anything fails if i install a more suitable kernel for my cpu (athlon64) non 64bit, will i need to do anything other than recompiling my graphic driver ?
[02:44] <dak> architecture of your processer
[02:44] <brandon> its amd 64
[02:44] <dak> lz1gjd: like from scratch ?
[02:44] <brandon> yea
[02:44] <SlimeyPete> lz1gjd: you mean, just swap a 64-bit kernel for a non-64 one? Your system will die.
[02:44] <lz1gjd> not really, use one from the repositories
[02:44] <dak> it is brandon ?
[02:44] <dak> here
[02:45] <lz1gjd> nonono
[02:45] <dak> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537
[02:45] <dak> read that
[02:45] <SlimeyPete> lz1gjd: all the software in your system has been compiled for 64 bit
[02:45] <lz1gjd> sri if i expressed myself in a wrong way
[02:45] <brandon> ty
[02:45] <lz1gjd> right now im using i386 version of kubuntu on an athlon 64 bit system, i dont want to switch to amd64 kernel
[02:46] <SlimeyPete> lz1gjd: oh, right. Yeah, it should work OK.
[02:46] <lz1gjd> just use one thats a bit better for this cpu architecure,
[02:46] <dak> it wont compile to 64 bit
[02:46] <Jucato> !64bit
[02:46] <ubotwo> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[02:46] <lz1gjd> there's amd k7 intel i686
[02:46] <dak> your system is 32 bit
[02:46] <lz1gjd> should work better i think
[02:46] <dak> thats 32bit
[02:46] <SlimeyPete> dak: he says "I don't want to switch to amd64 kernel"
[02:46] <SlimeyPete> so 32bit is fine.
[02:46] <dak> you can still have it be a amd64 setting in the kernel and i bet it compiles 32bit
[02:47] <dak> your libs and every thing is 32bit
[02:47] <dak> x86*
[02:47] <dak> so
[02:47] <david2> you lied
[02:47] <SlimeyPete> dak: he doesn't want 64-bit. He wants 32-bit, hence his clarification
[02:47] <dak> i did ?
[02:47] <david2> it aint ~/.Trash
[02:48] <dak> but cant you still pick amd64/core2 cpu in the kernel and it will still compile 32bit because his system is 32 bit?
[02:48] <dak> iv never tried it so
[02:48] <dak> but have used diff archs
[02:48] <dak> dunno
[02:48] <crimsun> ubotwo: 64bit =~ s/EMT64/EM64T/g
[02:48] <ubotwo> crimsun: Error: "64bit" is not a valid command.
[02:48] <SlimeyPete> I dunno tbh.... but the k7 kernel should be fine
[02:48] <LjL> crimsun, i'm taking note
[02:48] <dak> k7 is fine
[02:48] <lz1gjd> i dont really want to, i like my system the way it is, would just like to speed it up a bit (if possible of couse) with using a more suitable kernel for this kind of amd cpu but still 32bit
[02:49] <lz1gjd> sri for the spam
[02:49] <dak> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:49] <dak> tell you what your cpu is...
[02:49] <dak> brandon you get that script working ?
[02:49] <dak> for 32bit firefox
[02:50] <alexicon> ok that was weird!
[02:50] <alexicon> my firefox suddenly changed
[02:50] <alexicon> my theme is gone
[02:50] <lz1gjd> id like to know what happens to all modules you use when you switch to a different kernel, will alsa still work for example
[02:50] <brandon> i got firefox the problem is i want t oadd the following standalone flash player so i can go on youtube
[02:50] <selolie> Bonjour!
[02:51] <dak> brandon
[02:51] <brandon> ?
[02:51] <dak> if you are running x64 kubuntu
[02:51] <brandon> yes
[02:51] <dak> you need to use 32bit firefox for the flash to work
[02:51] <brandon> ohh now u tell me
[02:51] <dak> well
[02:51] <dak> i said
[02:51] <dak> read the url
[02:51] <dak> i pasted
[02:51] <dak> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537
[02:51] <dak> download the script.
[02:51] <dak> read the few lines
[02:52] <brandon> ok im downloading it
[02:52] <dak> sudo it to run it
[02:52] <dak> when you are all done
[02:52] <dak> to start firefox 32 bit type firefox32
[02:52] <brandon> where is sudo?
[02:53] <dak> in console or run"
[02:53] <dak> or make a icon
[02:53] <dak> whatever
[02:54] <selolie> who could be help me to use Konversation ? i have a problem to inter a new chan
[02:55] <brandon> The file http://home.comcast.net/~next/firefox32-2.0-ubuntu-amd64.deb is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.
[02:55] <brandon> it said this?
[02:55] <brandon> after downloading it
[02:55] <dak> never used it selolie
[02:55] <dak> uh
[02:55] <dak> nevver seen that
[02:56] <selolie> i begin whis yes dak
[02:56] <dak> ctrl+c it
[02:56] <dak> del the debs in the f-base* dir
[02:56] <dak> and restart it
[02:57] <dak> or base-*/ dir
[02:57] <dak> whatever it extracted into
[02:57] <dak> did you get the right script for what ver of kubuntu you have ?
[02:57] <dak> im guessing fiesty but who knows
[02:58] <selolie> i have kde
[02:58] <david2> cool trash:/ works
[02:59] <robbie> uboto
[02:59] <dak> iv never used the program but whats your problem ?
[03:00] <robbie> !kubuntu
[03:00] <ubotwo> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[03:00] <robbie> !samba
[03:00] <ubotwo> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:00] <selolie> i try to enter a new canal other than ubuntu irc...
[03:01] <Quetzlcoatl> how can i watch (in firefox) sites that uses wmedia player for streaming?
[03:01] <^RiaN^> TimGroe: help mw
[03:01] <^RiaN^> TimGroe: help me
[03:01] <TimGroe> :S
[03:01] <TimGroe> with what?
[03:01] <^RiaN^> ym
[03:01] <robbie> !lost
[03:01] <ubotwo> lost+found is where !fsck places any files it gleans from a corrupt filesystem.  These are files which had become unlinked from their parent directories.
[03:01] <TimGroe> ym ?
[03:01] <^RiaN^> yahoo messenger
[03:01] <TimGroe> aaahhh :)
[03:01] <dak> Quetzlcoatl: mplayer plugin
[03:01] <TimGroe> get pidgin or kopete :)
[03:01] <^RiaN^> how can i get ym
[03:02] <selolie> but it can't connec because it din't know the canal what i want.... but i now the canal is good ...
[03:02] <^RiaN^> there is ym for kubuntu
[03:02] <dak> kopete does yahoo aim msn and alot more
[03:02] <dak> its default installed i think
[03:02] <dak> check under internet on the menu
[03:02] <^RiaN^> TimGroe: how about gyach
[03:02] <dak> or goto the yahoo site and download the yahoo client i guess ?
[03:03] <dak> der /
[03:03] <TimGroe> don't know it :S
[03:03] <TimGroe> dak: that is like ... 4 years old :(
[03:03] <^RiaN^> o
[03:03] <^RiaN^> i downlaod ym format deb
[03:03] <^RiaN^> but it's error
[03:03] <dak> what is tim?
[03:03] <dak> kopete ?
[03:03] <dak> i dont use it so
[03:04] <dak> but noticed it on the menubar after install
[03:04] <dak> gaim/pidgin does yahoo
[03:04] <dak> and aim
[03:04] <^RiaN^> people who coming in my cyber cafe they confuse to use kopete
[03:05] <^RiaN^> they alway ask 'YM'
[03:05] <dak> well i didntk now you had a cyber cafe man
[03:06] <^RiaN^> :)
[03:06] <dak> so rename kopete to yahoo
[03:06] <^RiaN^> lol
[03:06] <dak> or use gaim
[03:06] <robbie> what about gaim?
[03:06] <ubuntu_> anybody can help me?
[03:06] <mika__> selamlar
[03:06] <dak> make a desktop back ground with instructions on it :p
[03:06] <^RiaN^> gyach is good too
[03:07] <^RiaN^> and this one is more difficult
[03:07] <^RiaN^> install a canon printer
[03:07] <^RiaN^> ip1600
[03:07] <^RiaN^> uhuh
[03:07] <dak> google it man
[03:07] <dak> no different then what anyone does when they dont know what to do
[03:07] <dak> and read the docs
[03:07] <dak> cups
[03:07] <dak> should support it
[03:08] <mika__> pls visit and click google www.siyasisohbet.net
[03:08] <mika__> pls visit and click google www.siyasisohbet.net
[03:08] <mika__> byeee
[03:08] <Quetzlcoatl> dak where do i find mplyer plugin for firefox?
[03:08] <dak> google
[03:08] <dak> "mplyer plugin for firefox"
[03:08] <^RiaN^> Quetzlcoatl:  sudo apt-get install mplayer
[03:08] <dak> yeah maybe their is a package
[03:09] <^RiaN^> in terminal
[03:09] <dak> apt-cache search mplayer
[03:09] <^RiaN^> in konsole
[03:10] <dak> you need the plugin rain...
[03:10] <dak> anyway google
[03:10] <dak> where is your cafe rain ?
[03:10] <^RiaN^> dak:  how about radio software
[03:10] <^RiaN^> what is name
[03:10] <^RiaN^> software for hear radio
[03:10] <dak> no clue
[03:10] <dak> fm radio ?
[03:11] <dak> no idea never had a fm card
[03:11] <^RiaN^> yes
[03:11] <dak> you need a fm card
[03:11] <dak> to listen to fm radio on your pc :p
[03:11] <dak> you know that right ?
[03:11] <^RiaN^> jukebox
[03:11] <dak> you mean internet radio ?
[03:11] <^RiaN^> yes
[03:11] <dak> dude
[03:11] <^RiaN^> internet radio
[03:11] <dak> i just asked
[03:11] <^RiaN^> hehehehe
[03:12] <dak> fm radio and you said yes
[03:12] <^RiaN^> sory man
[03:12] <dak> where are you from
[03:12] <^RiaN^> i mean internet radio
[03:13] <dak> iv never used juke
[03:13] <dak> i may have
[03:13] <dak> but
[03:13] <dak> while ago
[03:13] <dak> beep media player has a last.fm
[03:13] <^RiaN^> what software do u use
[03:13] <dak> client built into it
[03:14] <dak> bmpx - Beep Media Player eXperimental
[03:14] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok.
[03:14] <dak> apt-get it
[03:14] <dak> amarok too ya
[03:14] <dak> bmpx aka beep media player x does shoutcast and a few others
[03:15] <kendey> hello. can somebody recommend good dock for KDE? :)
[03:15] <^RiaN^> ok
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> kendey: if i said yes i'd be lying.  i haven'
[03:15] <Daisuke_Ido> err...  haven't found a stable one that looks halfway decent yet
[03:17] <dak> use bmpx rain
[03:17] <dak> does last.fm does podcast does icecast and shoutcast
[03:17] <dak> and cd's
[03:17] <dak> mp3
[03:17] <dak> ect.
[03:17] <^RiaN^> thanks kad
[03:18] <dak> rain where are you from in the world where is this cafe man ?
[03:18] <dak> what country
[03:18] <^RiaN^> indonesia
[03:18] <^RiaN^> im indonesian
[03:18] <dak> your time is off a bit man
[03:18] <dak> on your computer
[03:18] <dak> 09:20 [I]  CTCP TIME reply from ^RiaN^: Fri May 25 09:26:21 2007
[03:18] <dak> thats eastern daylight time
[03:18] <dak> usa
[03:18] <^RiaN^> im a billing
[03:18] <^RiaN^> now 9.30 pm here
[03:19] <dak> where are you ?
[03:19] <^RiaN^> billing man
[03:19] <dak> where is that ?
[03:19] <dak> what state
[03:19] <^RiaN^> indonesia
[03:19] <n6pfk> For some reason I am getting a segmentation fault when I start "evolution"?    You were helping me yesterday with my new nvidia card that I was having (am having) problems with, and I wondered if you were available for a couple of minutes to help me clear up a couple of issues i'm having?
[03:24] <Dr_willis> its 9:30 here in Indiana :) about as far from Indonesia as one can get.
[03:24] <sercik> sorry i have done a mistake!
[03:24] <dak> Dr_willis: and im in nyc and it is 9:30
[03:24] <^RiaN^> Dr_willis: u india
[03:24] <dak> so how is it 9:30am also in indeonesa
[03:24] <dak> "??
[03:24] <dak> HAHA
[03:24] <dak> dude
[03:24] <sercik> i thought to write in another channel
[03:25] <robbie> !adeptfix
[03:25] <ubotwo> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:25] <^RiaN^> it's show in my wathc
[03:25] <LjL> The_Machine: well, update me on the news. we were left at you trying to reboot and see if X started, i think
[03:25] <sercik> my windows don't boot anymore and i need to save some files that i have on the windows desktop
[03:25] <sercik> hi LjL
[03:25] <Dr_willis> Indiana :)
[03:25] <LjL> sercik, mount and save from linux...?
[03:25] <sercik> the problem is that files have spaces and strange characters!
[03:25] <Dr_willis> Indy 500 is this weekend.
[03:25] <dak> word
[03:25] <sercik> and linux say that can't  create files on destination
[03:26] <LjL> sercik: were the filenames in a language with accents, or non latin?
[03:26] <dak> i love race cars
[03:26] <sercik> yes i think so
[03:26] <kendey> dak: i love it too ;p
[03:26] <sercik> and then there are files with long filenames and spaces
[03:26] <dak> ^RiaN^: lay off the crack man :/
[03:27] <^RiaN^> what u mean
[03:27] <sercik> there is the possibility to cut or simplify filenames during copy
[03:27] <sercik> ??
[03:27] <^RiaN^> now 9:35 pm here
[03:27] <dak> rian
[03:27] <LjL> sercik, Ubuntu tries to use UTF-8 as its character encoding by default, while Windows uses UTF-16 or something. or just ISO-something. i think that might be the issue. you need to know what the mount option is to explicitly use a given encoding, not sure i remember them myself
[03:27] <dak> yes but your computer time is 9:30 am not pm
[03:27] <dak> its 24 hour time
[03:27] <^RiaN^> really
[03:27] <kendey> sercik: i'm not sure what you mean, but try wtire first letter of somebody's name and press tab
[03:27] <dak> how do you have a internet cafe using linux
[03:27] <dak> ?
[03:28] <dak> im honestly worried
[03:28] <dak> for you
[03:28] <sercik> so the solution could be mount destination partition with the correct utf?
[03:28] <^RiaN^> linux is free right
[03:28] <Dr_willis> Linux is GPL'ed 'free' correct
[03:29] <LjL> sercik: with the correct encoding, not necessarily UTF-anything. you're italian, right? so those filenames probably just contained accented vowels and you were using Latin1 on windows?
[03:29] <LjL> !fre
[03:29] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[03:29] <LjL> !free
[03:29] <ubotwo> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[03:29] <The_Machine> Thanks LjL, i appreciate the help.  Well, i rebooted and I was still stuck in the same loop - where i was getting complaints about mismatched kernel and nvidia driver
[03:29] <sercik> yes i'm italian
[03:29] <kendey> but most of computer users don't know about linux
[03:29] <sercik> don't you tell me more about to do?
[03:29] <sercik> or give me a hint?
[03:29] <The_Machine> right now i'm doing pretty good though..
[03:29] <kendey> for some  pc users computer = MS Windows
[03:30] <LjL> sercik, sure i will, i'm just trying to make sure we try the right options. as i said, i'm not sure i remember then right, so we'll have to do a couple attempts.
[03:30] <The_Machine> i believe i have it working so that the 'nv' driver is being used by Kubuntu rather than the proprietary driver
[03:30] <sercik> ok thanks!!
[03:30] <LjL> sercik: try  mount /dev/whatever /media/whatever -o utf8  (first unmount it, if it's already mounted), and see what the filenames are like
[03:30] <lvjiabin>
[03:30] <lvjiabin>
[03:30] <LjL> !cn
[03:30] <ubotwo> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:30] <The_Machine> but i don't believe that the driver is working 100% correctly, as Beryl seems broken, and there are some other unusual glitches i'm seeing
[03:30] <lvjiabin> I have a problem
[03:31] <lvjiabin> yes
[03:31] <The_Machine> (glitches I did not experience thus far)
[03:31] <lvjiabin> ?
[03:31] <sercik> i need to mount windows partition with that lines?
[03:31] <LjL> The_Machine, the "nv" open source drivers will never let you use Beryl. it doesn't support 3D at all.
[03:31] <dak> anyone else worrid for ^RiaN^ ?
[03:31] <The_Machine> LjL, i was wondering if you could help me again try to remove whatever the nvidia.com drier installs
[03:31] <dak> yes its free rian
[03:31] <LjL> sercik: well, yes, but of course change /dev/whatever and /media/whatever into what is relevant ;)
[03:31] <dak> bbl rain need a pack of cigs
[03:31] <The_Machine> okay, then i'm not using the correct driver.  If i switch to the other (proprietary) driver, i can't even startx
[03:31] <lvjiabin> And is there any Chinese?
[03:31] <LjL> The_Machine, i think we did that successfully yesterday... there must be other issues now
[03:32] <sercik> :)
[03:32] <LjL> The_Machine:  apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
[03:32] <LjL> !cn | lvjiabin
[03:32] <ubotwo> lvjiabin: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[03:32] <The_Machine> LjL - i was incorrect, we didn't.
[03:32] <The_Machine> okay, one moment.
[03:32] <LjL> The_Machine: hm?
[03:32] <^RiaN^> dak: how to get bmpx
[03:32] <LjL> !info bmpx
[03:32] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[03:32] <konrad1991pl> sudo apt-get install bmpx ??
[03:32] <LjL> !!info bmpx feisty
[03:32] <ubotu> bmpx: Beep Media Player eXperimental. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.36.1-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3261 kB, installed size 8888 kB
[03:32] <The_Machine>   Installed: (none)
[03:32] <The_Machine>   Candidate: 1:1.0.9631+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.28
[03:32] <The_Machine>   Version table:
[03:32] <The_Machine>      1:1.0.9631+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.28 0
[03:33] <The_Machine>         500 http://security.ubuntu.com feisty-security/restricted Packages
[03:33] <The_Machine>      1:1.0.9631+<IP_ADDRESS>-15.20 0
[03:33] <The_Machine>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/restricted Packages
[03:33] <The_Machine>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[03:33] <The_Machine> dammit, that didn't work right
[03:33] <LjL> The_Machine, use the pastebin for that...
[03:33] <The_Machine> i'm sorry
[03:33] <^RiaN^> Couldn't find package bmpx
[03:33] <The_Machine> I would have - i thought i could /notice you
[03:33] <The_Machine> won't do that anymore, sorry
[03:33] <LjL> The_Machine, why isn't it installed? we reinstalled it yesterday
[03:33] <LjL> The_Machine: oh, wait though. there is another potential problem
[03:34] <lvjiabin> thank you
[03:34] <The_Machine> i have nvidia-glx-new installed
[03:34] <The_Machine> LjL, should i uninstall it and install nvidia-glx?
[03:34] <LjL> The_Machine: the current candidate driver is for kernel 2.6.20-5-16, which was just released today, but we didn't get it updated yet (at least, i didn't)
[03:34] <The_Machine> LjL - I believe that is most of my problem :)
[03:34] <LjL> The_Machine, let me reboot (since i didn't reboot after today's update) and see if my own driver is working first
[03:34] <The_Machine> thanks!
[03:34] <LjL> The_Machine: well, yesterday this couldn't have been the problem
[03:34] <LjL> brb
[03:34] <sercik> LjL: it works! Thank you very much...
[03:35] <The_Machine> LjL - i had used the --update feature
[03:35] <The_Machine> but perhaps i'm wrong
[03:35] <LjL> sercik: at first try, cool =)
[03:35] <LjL> The_Machine: --update?
[03:35] <The_Machine> oh, with the nvidia driver (from nvidia.com) if you run it with --update it downloads the newest from the nvidia ftp
[03:35] <The_Machine> which was even newer than that from the nvidia site..  i could be way off on this.  heh.
[03:36] <The_Machine> anyway.  :)
[03:36] <LjL> The_Machine: oh, but did you do that before or after we talked?
[03:36] <The_Machine> Yes, i did that before we talked
[03:36] <LjL> ok
[03:36] <The_Machine> (ever)
[03:36] <The_Machine> Thanks for your help
[03:36] <LjL> rebooting, moment
[03:36] <The_Machine> :)
[03:36] <The_Machine> yep
[03:38] <sercik> I have changed my motherboard and windows doesn't boot anymore but linux is working!
[03:38] <konrad1991pl> i'm going out, see you later :) good bye everybody
[03:39] <sercik> finally i have received my asus a8n32-sli deluxe WOW
[03:40] <LjL> the_machine: it's still working for me, so that shouldn't be an issue. give me the output of  dpkg -l | grep nvidia  please
[03:41] <DJServers> Hey i am back all
[03:41] <DJServers> here it is like 30 Celsius hot dude :p
[03:41] <aroo>  Is there any reason not to clear out /var/cache/apt/archives ? Mine's 500mb
[03:42] <The_Machine> okay.  one moment!
[03:43] <palmer> what game is good for kubuntu?
[03:43] <wouterh> hi, does anybody knows in which package I can find the dbus.mainloop.qt python package?
[03:43] <The_Machine> pastebin is acting slow..  gr...
[03:44] <LjL> The_Machine: paste in privmsg if not too long
[03:44] <PhinnFort> aroo: sudo aptitude autoclean
[03:44] <The_Machine> k
[03:44] <PhinnFort> !info nexuiz | palmer
[03:44] <ubotwo> palmer: nexuiz - A 3d network deathmatch game - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[03:44] <DJServers> !uboito
[03:44] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[03:44] <PhinnFort> darn that fool
[03:44] <DJServers> whoo[s
[03:44] <The_Machine> http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=79362
[03:44] <DJServers> why is it now ubotwo?
[03:44] <The_Machine> LjL, there it is
[03:44] <PhinnFort> DJServers: ubotu is dead
[03:45] <Dr_willis> Egads!
[03:45] <DJServers> ahh why i liked him :p
[03:45] <uros> hi all. when i log in and when i scan for plugins on konqueror I get a crash: "nsplugin crashed" and something with "sigsegv 11". I tried reinstalling the nsplugin package, but I get the same error. It is annoying - any ideas on how I could get rid of it?
[03:45] <PhinnFort> DJServers: I made a temporary replacement (pybotu), but someone wasn't satisified and made a better one, ubotwo
[03:45] <DJServers> o ok :P
[03:45] <LjL> PhinnFort, err, Ubotwo has been around for a couple of months actually :)
[03:46] <PhinnFort> oh?
[03:46] <Dr_willis> in training? :)
[03:46] <LjL> PhinnFort, we've used it as a backup bot everytime ubotu went down for any reason
[03:46] <PhinnFort> when noone answered !'s some hours ago, I made my own bot join, and some time later I notice he was obsolete;)
[03:46] <PhinnFort> ah, ok
[03:46] <The_Machine> LjL, http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=79362
[03:46] <LjL> The_Machine, you seem to have nvidia-glx-new installed but not nvidia-glx, is that intentional?
[03:47] <DJServers> guys? i still forgot the unpack command in console can you say it one moere time :P
[03:47] <PhinnFort> tar xzf
[03:47] <PhinnFort> or xjf
[03:47] <DJServers> thx :P
[03:47] <LjL> PhinnFort, well, other ops could have made ubotwo join, but they didn't remember they could :P
[03:47] <The_Machine> LjL, i thought i was supposed to have new installed.  Should i go to nvidia-glx?  I don't know the difference..  I'm not really sure why "new" is there, either.
[03:48] <PhinnFort> ;)
[03:48] <LjL> The_Machine: there are three drivers. nvidia-glx-legacy is for older nvidia cards. nvidia-glx works for most cards. nvidia-glx-new is a newer version (that also adds support for a couple of cards), but it wasn't made default because nvidia-glx is more tested
[03:49] <LjL> The_Machine: i have nvidia-glx installed, so i suggest you install it too, simply because i've never troubleshooted nvidia-glx-new. what is your card, though?
[03:49] <LjL> PhinnFort: besides, ubotu's source code is available ;)
[03:49] <The_Machine> LjL - interesting.  It is a GeForce 7300 GS
[03:49] <LjL> !hardware
[03:49] <ubotwo> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:49] <LjL> The_Machine: let me make sure nvidia-glx is ok
[03:49] <PhinnFort> LjL: I know, but I couldn't set it up in under half an hour, so it was more efficient to make one myself;)
[03:49] <The_Machine> I'm fine with having the "not new" card as long as it works.  Another question - are you able to see everything in nvidia-settings?
[03:49] <PhinnFort> (and it was fun)
[03:51] <LjL> The_Machine, it should be ok.  sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-new ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:51] <LjL> The_Machine: "everything" as in what?
[03:52] <The_Machine> sorry, "many: menu settings.
[03:52] <jc> salut
[03:52] <The_Machine> er, "many" rather than just seeing some "About" screen
[03:52] <jc> who speak french ??
[03:52] <LjL> !fr
[03:52] <ubotwo> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:52] <jc> merci
[03:52] <LjL> The_Machine: err yeah, i've got X server information, X server display configuration, X screen 0 with lots of options, GPU 0...
[03:53] <The_Machine> cool
[03:53] <The_Machine> i'm going to do the other operation
[03:53] <LjL> The_Machine: but from your pastebin, you don't even seem to have nvidia-settings *installed*...?
[03:54] <The_Machine> heh.  That's because the proprietary nvidia-settings still exists maybe?  Odd.
[03:54] <LjL> The_Machine: ah nevermind, i don't have it installed either, the nvidia-settings binary comes from nvidia-glx rather
[03:54] <The_Machine> LjL - yeah, that's what i thought!
[03:54] <LjL> The_Machine: no it's just provided by nvidia-glx... though now i'm not sure what the nvidia-settings package is for =)
[03:54] <The_Machine> okay - reboot X or the whole OS?
[03:54] <LjL> The_Machine: try just X for a start. but enable nvidia instead of nv, first
[03:54] <LjL> (you know how to revert that if things go wrong, right?)
[03:55] <LjL> oh, nvidia-settings removes nvidia-glx, mystery solved
[03:55] <The_Machine> (no) :)  When you say enable nvidia instead of nv, you mean in SYstem Settings/Display/etc?
[03:56] <LjL> The_Machine: no, i mean in xorg.conf. or use  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable , which is equivalent
[03:56] <The_Machine> I need to learn that.  Thanks - let me look.
[03:56] <LjL> The_Machine: to revert it, if needed, just restore a backup of xorg.conf (which implies you should make one :P)
[03:56] <The_Machine> i have been making backups!
[03:56] <LjL> The_Machine:  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup  makes a backup, and  sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf  restores it if you have no display
[03:57] <The_Machine> heh
[03:57] <The_Machine> almost what i've been doing
[03:57] <The_Machine> :D
[03:57] <LjL> The_Machine: besides, i think that  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable  makes a backup automatically
[03:57] <LjL> not sure though
[03:58] <LjL> whops
[03:58] <LjL> The_Machine: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:58] <LjL> not the one i gave you above
[03:58] <LjL> that's deprecated
[03:58] <vbgunz> I have an interesting dilemma. everytime I enter/eject a CD, Memorystick, external harddisk, I get a popup prompting what I want to do *but* all users on other desktops also get these! it can get crazy if I mount 20+ things as when another user switches desktops, they 20+ dialogs?? this is an insane bug, is this addressed?
[04:00] <Dr_willis> other desktops? you got 20+ people using remote desktops on 1 server?
[04:01] <TheCreationist> What is the command to stop the X server?
[04:01] <Dr_willis> stop or restart? :)
[04:01] <TheCreationist> X can't be running when I install the nvidia drivers.
[04:01] <The_Machine> LjL, so in xorg i change "device" from "nv" to "nvidia"?
[04:01] <Dr_willis> - /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[04:01] <TheCreationist> Dr_willis: Thank you.
[04:01] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: 2 users logged in. the first user mounts 20+ times (cds, etc), the second user when he switches to his desktop has 20+ dialogs asking what would you like to do with the mount
[04:01] <LjL> The_Machine: yes, but just use  sudo nvidia-xconfig  instead
[04:01] <Dr_willis> TheCreationist,  when using the package maanger. i dident have to stop X.
[04:01] <LjL> vbgunz, i don't think i see that reported anywhere
[04:01] <LjL> !bugs
[04:01] <ubotwo> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[04:02] <The_Machine> okay, done.
[04:02] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  mounts as in sticks a usb thing in the drive?
[04:02] <TheCreationist> Dr_willis: The repositories don't have an nvidia driver that supports hardware acceleration.
[04:02] <LjL> although, it sounds a bit like a "design bug"
[04:02] <The_Machine> i guess i restart X now.
[04:02] <The_Machine> :)
[04:02] <The_Machine> brb!
[04:02] <The_Machine> hehe
[04:02] <Dr_willis> TheCreationist,  huh?
[04:02] <TheCreationist> Dr_willis: I have to use the proprietary drivers.
[04:02] <LjL> The_Machine: make sure you have irssi handy :)
[04:02] <Dr_willis> The propiratay drivers are in the repos last i looked.
[04:02] <The_Machine> :D
[04:02] <Dr_willis> ~nvidia
[04:02] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[04:02] <ubotwo> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:02] <TheCreationist> Dr_willis: Hmm.. I couldn't find them.  nvidia-glx was the only driver I found.
[04:02] <Dr_willis> !info nvidia-glx
[04:02] <ubotwo> nvidia-glx - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver - available in Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) - See http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for more information
[04:03] <Dr_willis> that is the Propitary driver I thought.
[04:03] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: you get asked, what would you like to do? "open in Konqueror, do nothing, etc" the second user logged in also gets these but doesn't see them until they log in and I had an issue with over 20+ of these dialogs on the next users desktop :(
[04:03] <TheCreationist> Dr_willis: I'm using Edgy if that makes a difference.
[04:03] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  untill they log in? the 2nd user may not even be logged into the desktop and they get 'saved up' ?
[04:03] <LjL> TheCreationist, let me add myself to the choir of "yes, the proprietary drivers ARE in the repos"
[04:04] <TheCreationist> LjL: Well, they don't give me hardware acceleration.  Only the official nvidia drivers do... all my opengl apps crash with the drivers in the repos.
[04:04] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: the user is logged in. we're just switching desktops. everytime I mount CD's etc, these are my CD's, etc *but* the second user ALSO gets these prompts... they should not get them but they do. unfortunately, I once seen 20+ of these dialogs when switching desktops :(
[04:05] <LjL> TheCreationist: and i suppose that, after installing nvidia-glx (and before trying the drivers from nvidia.com), you *had* followed the howto -- i.e. changed from "nv" to "nvidia" in your xorg.conf (or used  sudo nvidia-xconfig , same thing)
[04:06] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  testing that now.. I made a 2nd user. logged into them with Switchuser-StartNewSession
[04:06] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: awesome, tell me if you see what I am talking about :)
[04:06] <vbgunz> mount a cd 3 times (more than once) in the first session, then switch to the second desktop and you'll have 3 prompts
[04:06] <LjL> vbgunz: if that's the case, file a bug and let dr_willis confirm it.
[04:06] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  well initial test.. yes. thats how it works.. :) KDE poped up a dialog. gnome just auto-mounted and poped up a window.
[04:07] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  its doing what its designed to do. :)  which user Should the thing be going to? heh
[04:07] <Tobsan> my sound does not work :(
[04:07] <Tobsan> i think i have the wrong drivers installed...
[04:07] <Tobsan> anyone who knows how to fix it?
[04:08] <DJServers> install new drivers
[04:08] <DJServers> t:P
[04:08] <Dr_willis> I dont see any 'fix' for it really.  the automounter is auto mounting and kde/gnome is seeing it. so only fix i can think of off hand wouldbe to disable the automounting of the removeable media
[04:08] <LjL> Dr_willis: the one whose X is currently in the foreground, i'd say. but it's certainly something quite deeply rooted in the design of the whole multiuserness
[04:08] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: if you mount a CD 3 times, or 3 different CD's, the next user gets 3 prompts in which only 1 or none will actually exist :(
[04:08] <Dr_willis> LjL,  right. but how can one even tell whichis in the forgound.
[04:09] <LjL> Dr_willis: if (this is the only X running) show_dialog; else { if (this X is in the foreground) show_dialog ; else shutup }
[04:09] <LjL> oh, i'm sure there has to be a way :)
[04:09] <awatson> LjL, are you there?
[04:09] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  ok. how about this.. for a Single user logged in. I plug in the usb gizmo - it pops uop a dialog.. i let it alone.. I remove/replug it in again.. i get a 2nd dialog. :)
[04:09] <awatson> (this is The_Machine)
[04:09] <Dr_willis> and so on.
[04:09] <LjL> awatson: from irssi, i assume
[04:09] <awatson> from bitchx..
[04:09] <Dr_willis> 2 related issues here it seems. :) both result from trying to make things 'user friendly'
[04:09] <awatson> close enough (i forgot the name of irssi)
[04:10] <LjL> awatson: have you also tried rebooting or just restarting X?
[04:10] <awatson> restarting X was successful - even beryl ran.
[04:10] <awatson> THis is after a reboot, which has been my chronic problem
[04:10] <awatson> LjL - I can give you my error though!
[04:10] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. if you had several users running gnome.. i wonder if they would allget a filemanager window with permissions for the device.
[04:11] <TheCreationist> LjL: Just to let you know, after following the nvidia how-to, my computer restarts with X crashing.  So yeah, I didn't ask how to install the drivers through the repos, but how to shutdown X, that's all.  Thanks for you help anyway.
[04:11] <s330d3r> have a external drive that has ntfs but I cannot auto-connect it to my laptop... any ideas on how to get this working?
[04:11] <LjL> awatson: wait if you got X running with acceleration, why are you from bitchx?
[04:11] <Tobsan> is there a thing like windowsupdate for kubuntu?
[04:11] <Tobsan> like drivers and stuff?
[04:11] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: hmm, I think no matter what, it should just automount without a prompt for every other user but the active user. in other words, if I am the active user I get the prompt *but* for any other user not currently active, it should be automounted and thats it :)
[04:11] <vbgunz> what do you think/
[04:11] <LjL> Tobsan: .....:?
[04:11] <Dr_willis> Tobsan,  havent noticed the update system icon at thebottomn left eh?
[04:11] <Tobsan> Dr_willis: yes i have
[04:11] <LjL> Tobsan: ever noticed there is an icon that pops up when security updates or bugfixes are available?
[04:11] <LjL> there's been ones right today
[04:11] <Tobsan> but i have lost my sound drivers :(
[04:12] <Tobsan> i have lost my sound drivers
[04:12] <Tobsan> and i cant seem to get them back :(
[04:12] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  thats just it - what if i have 5 remote desktops all loggeded into the same linux box via xdmcp - they are all active.
[04:12] <LjL> what makes you say you've lost your sound drivers?
[04:12] <Tobsan> LjL: i have no sound in my system :/
[04:12] <awatson> Error:  API mismatch: the Nvidia kernel modele has the version 1.0.-9755, but this X module has the version 1.0-9631.  Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[04:13] <awatson> LjL - I restarted X after our last convo, and it was working (3d, the drivers, everything).  Did a reboot and x won't start -- with this error
[04:13] <LjL> awatson: that would have been before rebooting i suppose?
[04:13] <LjL> uh
[04:13] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  looks like a 'user friendlyness' fighting with 'flexability of design' thing.  about the only thing i can think of wouldbe to disable automounting totally.
[04:13] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: not sure about that, I am unfamiliar with it :( I just think this could be done better. I thought it was a bug but this is by design?
[04:13] <^RiaN^> awatson: don't u try using envy
[04:13] <Tobsan> and KMix doenst know i have a sound card either :(
[04:13] <awatson> LjL, yes sir.
[04:13] <awatson> RiaN - i won't, thanks
[04:13] <LjL> awatson: dpkg --get-selection | grep nvidia again please
[04:13] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  the parts are acting as they are told. to give a better single-user-experience it seems.
[04:13] <LjL> awatson: (note you can use the "gpm" package to easily copy and paste from the console)
[04:13] <awatson> LjL - do you know how i can do this command in bitchx
[04:14] <LjL> awatson: it's a shell command, you don't do it from inside bitchx. just switch to another terminal by pressing Alt+F2
[04:14] <LjL> go back with Alt+F1
[04:14] <awatson> or should i use irssi?
[04:14] <Dr_willis> vbgunz,  running a few vnc sessions also to see what happens. :)
[04:14] <awatson> (is it easier?)
[04:14] <Dr_willis> i perfer irssi to BitchX
[04:14] <LjL> awatson: dunno
[04:14] <awatson> k
[04:14] <Tobsan> LjL: any idea about how i can get them back?
[04:14] <LjL> Tobsan: i don't know, did you originally install drivers for your soundcard "manually"?
[04:15] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: I'd like to bring this up someplace for discussion, what would you recommend?
[04:15] <Tobsan> i did install new drivers, from Intel (as my soundcard is Intel) and then, sound was gone
[04:15] <Tobsan> :(
[04:15] <Tobsan> it did work before that, though
[04:15] <LjL> Tobsan, installing third-party drivers is bound to get you into trouble when there are updates... i'm not too much of an expert on alsa and sound, though
[04:16] <Tobsan> is there a way to restore my driver?
[04:16] <ahmed> hii.. guys ,,, its ma first time to use linux and i still want my windows games- applications,, i tried using wine, crossover,and cedega,, but some apps-games failed to be emulated especially ones that uses directx any other good emulation softwares ???????????PLZ HELP
[04:16] <LjL> ahmed: just dual boot Windows
[04:17] <awatson> LjL, it's complaining about this command:  dpkg --get-selection | grep nvidia
[04:17] <^RiaN^> use vmware
[04:17] <LjL> awatson: selectionS
[04:17] <awatson> (and I don't know how i would be able to copy/paste the results)
[04:17] <vbgunz> ahmed: yup, dual booting is about the only way to really get full Windows compatibility
[04:17] <awatson> okay, one moment
[04:17] <LjL> awatson,  sudo apt-get install gpm , and then your mouse will work for copying and pasting
[04:17] <awatson> sweet :)
[04:17] <LjL> awatson: (click and drag to select & copy, then middle click to paste - NOT in the channel :P)
[04:17] <ahmed> vbgunz.. i heard abt xwine theyh say its works better, also some ppl suggested to use vmware or others to emulate windows os itself..
[04:18] <swhalen> Hello, can anyone halp me with KBFX?
[04:18] <LjL> ahmed, vmware has some DirectX support now, it's still labelled as very experimental though. not sure how much it can do
[04:18] <LjL> when i say DirectX i mean Direct3D
[04:19] <^RiaN^> but u maus have a big ram for vmware at least 1gb
[04:19] <vbgunz> ahmed: I recommend VirtualBox over vmware as it is free and has chock more options *but* for gaming, I wouldn't recommend either one *but* only a dual boot system :(
[04:19] <Dr_willis> i had fewer issues with VMware compared to Virtualbox.
[04:19] <Dr_willis> had a lot of livecd's that dident work right with Virtualbox
[04:20] <^RiaN^> use the new vmware
[04:20] <Dr_willis> I agree - for games = dual boot
[04:20] <vbgunz> ahmed: there is a trick that will get you into a Windows dual boot in seconds rather than minutes. rather than *reboot* simply hibernate *both* systems and upon awakening, you'll get grub to choose which system to go back too in seconds
[04:20] <Dr_willis> heh
[04:20] <ahmed> hmm...
[04:20] <ahmed> not bad one
[04:20] <Dr_willis> windows hibernation always screwed up on me
[04:20] <ahmed> exactly
[04:21] <ahmed> thats wat always happens
[04:21] <vbgunz> Dr_willis: I agree, VirtualBox and live cds always give me a kernel panic :(
[04:21] <ahmed> windows hibernation kills
[04:21] <Dr_willis> windows always screwed up on me
[04:21] <LjL> Dr_willis: weird, that's what *Ubuntu* hibernation does for me :P
[04:21] <awatson> i can't promise this paste isn't going to spill into the channel
[04:21] <Dr_willis> ubuntu onmy laptop has decent suspend/hibernate now. :)
[04:21] <Dr_willis> i was suprised it actually worked.
[04:21] <awatson> LjL, pasting now
[04:21] <awatson> nvidia-glx                                      install
[04:21] <awatson> nvidia-glx-new                                  deinstall
[04:21] <awatson> nvidia-kernel-common                            install
[04:21] <awatson> nvidia-new-kernel-source                        install
[04:21] <awatson> nvidia-settings                                 deinstall
[04:21] <awatson> awatson@AlexKubuntu:~$
[04:21] <awatson> crap
[04:21] <LjL> hm
[04:21] <awatson> :(
[04:21] <LjL> ok, it's ok
[04:21] <awatson> i got one line to ya!
[04:21] <LjL> actually, no :P
[04:22] <LjL> what was the line?
[04:22] <awatson> LjL, it was just the command
[04:22] <LjL> ok
[04:22] <awatson> anyway.  WHat's my next move my friend?
[04:22] <Tobsan> so is there no way i can restore my sound drivers?
[04:23] <LjL> awatson: thinking
[04:23] <awatson> k :)
[04:23] <vbgunz> Tobsan: you know what your sound drivers are?
[04:23] <Tobsan> vbgunz: what do you mean?
[04:23] <LjL> awatson: i don't have nvidia-new-kernel-source installed... but i doubt that's an issue
[04:23] <vbgunz> you know how to install them using apt-get?
[04:23] <Tobsan> i installed new drivers from Intel (matching my soundcard it said) but the sound stopped working after that
[04:23] <awatson> LjL - i don't think so either.  i'll uninstall it anyway.
[04:24] <Tobsan> vbgunz: so i want to get back the sound drivers i had before
[04:24] <ahmed_>  guys any one used virtual box be4 ??
[04:24] <Tobsan> default or whatever they are
[04:24] <vbgunz> ahmed: i use it, it's fine for running Windows XP on my end, if not great
[04:25] <vbgunz> but running live cd's is a problem until the next version
[04:25] <vbgunz> Tobsan: sorry, I don't know how to work with sound, I thought you knew how to apt-get your drivers, I would have shown you how to reinstall
[04:26] <Tobsan> can i find the name of them somewhere so that i can apt-get them?
[04:26] <awatson> LjL, I know how i can get back into X, but it won't help me fix my problem.
[04:26] <LjL> awatson: i understand that
[04:26] <awatson> LjL, if i sudo sh NVIDIAdrivername.sh, reinstall the nvidia driver..  etc., i can get back in (that's what i was doing before when i was stuck unable to get into X)
[04:26] <vbgunz> Tobsan: not really :( How about "uninstalling" the intel drivers you got?
[04:26] <LjL> awatson: i just don't know why your system thinks you still have the newer mismatching version of the module
[04:27] <Tobsan> vbgunz: now do i do that?
[04:27] <LjL> awatson: leave nvidia alone, actually try debsums again
[04:27] <LjL> awatson: sudo debsums | grep -v OK
[04:27] <vbgunz> Tobsan: that is probably in the intel readme
[04:27] <Tobsan> oh
[04:27] <vbgunz> you got a .run file?
[04:27] <Tobsan> brb :)
[04:27] <Tobsan> dont think so
[04:27] <vbgunz> yeah check the readme :)
[04:28] <awatson> it's running
[04:28] <awatson> i'll paste the results in a msg to you
[04:28] <LjL> awatson: try to make that a message, yes :P i think typing  /query ljl  should open you a window with me
[04:29] <swhalen> Help! i cant get XBFX to work
[04:30] <swhalen> it works, but no items show up in the menus
[04:30] <awatson> LjL, do you see my msg?
[04:31] <LjL> awatson: yes, i was smoking a cigarette, looking now
[04:38] <ahmed_>  guys.. as for gaming emulation, instead of emulating windows now,, will ps2 emulating be a good suggestion for games on linux ??
[04:39] <nix> Hello everybody..
[04:40] <nix> About the kubuntu 7.04 DVD, is it a live disk or an alternate installer?
[04:40] <dennister> hey ppl...anyone else having severe problems with firefox on feisty?
[04:40] <dennister> like constant crashes, nonresponsiveness, popups, etc.?
[04:41] <nix> i'm using firefox on dapper without any problems
[04:41] <Tobsan> i fixed my sound \o/
[04:41] <nix> hey maybe try disabling all the extensions.
[04:41] <Tobsan> oss driver or whatever it was =)
[04:42] <ahmed_>  guys.. as for gaming emulation, instead of emulating windows now,, will ps2 emulating be a good suggestion for games on linux ??
[04:42] <dennister> i only have 2 extensions going, and the problems were existing before those extensions were installed
[04:43] <dennister> i can't believe, even with popups blocked, I'm constantly being forced to close a party poker popup i never installed or allowed to be installed
[04:44] <dennister> you'd think i was a novice winblows user, lol...who didn't know about things like utilities and spyware tools
[04:46] <guest_> hi
[04:47] <guest_> $B$3$s$K$A$o(B
[04:47] <guest_> $BF|K\(B
[04:47] <guest_> can u read Japanese?
[04:48] <LjL> !jp
[04:48] <ubotwo>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[04:48] <guest_> thanks :)
[04:48] <guest_> $B$3$l$OAG@2$i$7$$!*!!(BKonversation!!
[04:49] <nix> not many people awake today..
[04:58] <s330d3r> can anyone help?  I am having issues connecting a usb drive formatted with ntfs...
[04:59] <ardchoille> !ntfs
[04:59] <ubotwo> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:59] <ubuntu_> hi guys
[04:59] <ubuntu_> i am trying to detect my internal dial up modem
[04:59] <ubuntu_> how do i do this??
[04:59] <ubuntu_> i am using fiesty
[05:01] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: does lspci show it?
[05:01] <ubuntu_> i haven tried it as yet
[05:01] <ubuntu_> i'm pretty new at this
[05:01] <ubuntu_> so how would i be able to do that??
[05:02] <TheCreationist> How do I unlock the apt database file?  Adept is saying it is in use, but I just booted my computer.
[05:02] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: Alt+F2, then type konsole, now you have a command line, now run lspci
[05:02] <Ace2016> in konsole
[05:02] <ubuntu_> ok
[05:04] <ludu__> ubuntu_  dit lspci found it?
[05:04] <ubuntu_> i didn't see it
[05:04] <ludu__> is it maybe disabled from bios?
[05:04] <pag> !fixadept
[05:04] <ripper> hi @ all
[05:04] <ubotwo> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:05] <Ace2016> hi
[05:05] <ripper> is her a german?
[05:05] <pag> !de | ripper
[05:05] <ubotwo> ripper: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:05] <ripper> jo
[05:06] <ripper> THX
[05:15] <DaSkreech> can I turn off apport?
[05:16] <Ace2016> DaSkreech: in what context?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Ace2016: as in it being off?
[05:18] <Vedo> hi, were i find it.map.gz in kubuntu 7.04 thanks
[05:18] <Ace2016> DaSkreech: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport  < if you aren't interested in submitting bug reports then i guess you can disable it
[05:18] <Ace2016> Vedo: use locate
[05:19] <Vedo> i don't find it
[05:19] <Ace2016> Vedo: is it an italian keyboard mapping?
[05:19] <Vedo> yes
[05:19] <Ace2016> Vedo: have you installed those?
[05:20] <DaSkreech> Ace2016: Not so much that I'm not interested just that a) most apps don't have debugging turned on so the reports are mostly useless and b) everytime I login it tells me every process in the Process table has crashed
[05:20] <Vedo> yes
[05:20] <Vedo> i want find file for see the layout
[05:21] <Ace2016> lol
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Morning
[05:22] <Jucato> moin DaSkreech
[05:22] <DaSkreech> hi Quetzlcoatl
[05:22] <ahmed> guys when trying to install ubuntu studio it doesnt detect my cd drive in the installation though it loads and boots from it .
[05:22] <Quetzlcoatl> hi DaSkreech
[05:22] <Jucato> !ubuntustudio
[05:22] <ubotwo> ubuntustudio is a site for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best parts of Audio/Graphical/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories, and extra! Available at http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit #ubuntustudio.
[05:22] <Jucato> ahmed: ^^^^
[05:23] <Ace2016> Vedo: try sudo apt-get install kdb, then do sudo updatedb, then use locate to find the file
[05:23] <kane_> do any of yall use beryl?
[05:23] <ahmed> guys when trying to install ubuntu it doesnt detect my cd drive (using external usb cd) in the installation though it loads and boots from it .
[05:24] <Ace2016> Vedo: i've never used it before but i guess you also need to install kbd-compat
[05:24] <hvralpha> ahmed, a\
[05:24] <ahmed> wat ?
[05:24] <ahmed> wats a< ?
[05:24] <kane_> avinashm_: do your kde menus kinda overlap eachother a little bit?
[05:25] <hvralpha> ahmed have you checked your fstab setup?
[05:25] <ahmed> wats fstab
[05:25] <ahmed> ?
[05:25] <DaSkreech> !fstab
[05:25] <ubotwo> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:25] <Jucato> ahmed: also try asking in #ubuntustudio if you're installing ubuntu studio
[05:25] <kane_> like in the kmenu the older old appears "higher" and a little overlaping the child
[05:26] <ahmed> they have no idea abt it plus this problem happens with both ubuntu and ubuntu studio
[05:26] <Vedo> there aren't kdb-compat in the ufficial repository
[05:26] <hvralpha> file in dir /etc which must have line for your cd drive
[05:26] <Ace2016> kane_: i use beryl
[05:26] <kane_> ahmed perhaps you should post your stab to pastebin.
[05:27] <kane_> Ace2016: yeah did you see what i asked about the kmenu kind overlapping eachother?
[05:27] <kane_> Ace2016: do you experince that?
[05:28] <Ace2016> kmenu overlapping what?
[05:29] <kane_> Heh, hard to explain, like in the kmenu when you go to the "child" menus the parrent menu kind overlaps the child menu a little.
[05:29] <kane_> the child menu seems to start slightly under the rendering for the parent.
[05:31] <Ace2016> kane_: no never happened, the main kmenu is under the new sub menus
[05:32] <kane_> ah well, such is life. its just slightly annoying.
[05:33] <kane_> i dont really use the menus anyway
[05:34] <Ace2016> Alt+F2 rules
[05:36] <rothchild> hey anyone any good with ndiswrapper and bcm43xx cards?
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Ace2016: Alt+Space rules :)
[05:39] <rothchild> it's installed but when I do ndiswrapper -l i get
[05:39] <rothchild> device (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[05:39] <rothchild> i've tried the help here: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,troubleshooting/
[05:41] <kane_> have you checked this out? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902&page=56
[05:42] <rothchild> yeah that's where I started I've been using the guide here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=201902&highlight=bcm+4306+ndiswrapper
[05:42] <rothchild> gonna take it all out and restart from scratch I think
[05:43] <kane_> yeah make sure you black list the bcm driver.
[05:43] <kane_> or uninstall them.
[05:43] <kane_> can always apt-get them back.
[05:44] <rothchild> yup they are blacklisted
[05:44] <rothchild> for some reason when I try to wget the ndiswrapper from sourceforge I'm getting Cannot write to `ndiswrapper-1.44.tar.gz' (Permission denied)
[05:45] <nando_> Hola quien me ayuda con beryl?
[05:46] <abe> hi
[05:46] <terrestre> i have a lot of kde upgrades
[05:46] <kane_> rothchild: are you in in dir that you have write priv to?
[05:46] <creadorcreativo> nando_: #kubuntu-es
[05:47] <rothchild> kane_ I just worked that one out DOH!
[05:47] <kane_> : )
[05:47] <terrestre> theres a lot of upgrades today from kde
[05:49] <terrestre> maybe for kde 2.5.7
[05:49] <terrestre> 3.5.7
[05:49] <kane_> terrestre: i dont see many.
[05:50] <terrestre> no?
[05:50] <arkygeek> hi everyone
[05:50] <kane_> you have to unable the kde 3.5.7 repos your self.
[05:50] <K-Ryan> Hi arkygeek
[05:50] <kane_> they are not pushing them out to all users.
[05:50] <terrestre> i have like 30 pakckages
[05:50] <kane_> if you did enable them though, that would explain it.
[05:51] <arkygeek> I am fighting (a losing) battle with a Belkin wifi Ver.7000uk
[05:51] <terrestre> its was a question, actually
[05:51] <rothchild> hmm still getting: device (14E4:4320) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[05:51] <rothchild> when I do ndiswrapper -l
[05:51] <kane_> rothchild: it sounds like those old drivers are getting loaded still.
[05:52] <kane_> did your rmmod them?
[05:52] <kane_> er did you rmmod
[05:52] <rothchild> yup here's the output: ERROR: Module bcmw43xx does not exist in /proc/modules
[05:53] <rothchild> and in the blacklist too
[05:53] <arkygeek> i get blkwgdv7 : driver installed        device (1799:700F) present
[05:53] <arkygeek> but badness on boot - (hangs until I press ctrl-alt-del) and iwconfig shows nothing :'(
[05:54] <arkygeek> lspci -v  shows 03:05.0 Ethernet controller: Belkin Unknown device 700f (rev 20)        Subsystem: Belkin Unknown device 700f
[05:54] <kane_> rothchild: hrm, i dunno then, ive never had that particular issue with ndiswrapper.
[05:54] <kane_> rothchild: i would apt remove them and reboot and try ndiswrapper again.
[05:55] <kane_> but thats just me, and a shot in the dark.
[05:56] <rothchild> kane_ thanks I'm gonna give it a go
[05:56] <ubuntu_> Hi.
[05:57] <ubuntu_> I just installed gnome desktop environement. Now when I boot, my PC 'halts' at 'boot' After loadingthe kernel) and won't go any further.
[05:58] <ubuntu_> I'm using the Live CD as an emergency.
[05:58] <ubuntu_> Can anyone save me?
[05:58] <K-Ryan> Does the GRUB boot screen come up? Where you pick what OS you're going to boot, that thing.
[05:59] <ubuntu_> Yes, that comes up.
[05:59] <ubuntu_> When the word 'boot' appears, notheing else happens.
[05:59] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: and what happens after you select the item in grub and press enter?
[06:00] <ubuntu_> Oh, ISWYM. I'm not sure, I get a few lines of code - kernnel loaded etc. then 'boot'
[06:00] <ubuntu_> That's all.
[06:00] <K-Ryan> Have you made any changes to your /etc/fstab?
[06:00] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: what happens when you start in resqueue mode?
[06:00] <K-Ryan> Ace2016: rescue =P
[06:01] <ubuntu_> K-Ryan: No changes - just went to repisotory and installed gde
[06:01] <ubuntu_> Ace2016: Not sure how to do that. :(
[06:01] <K-Ryan> ubuntu_: You don't have a recovery mode option at the boot screen?
[06:01] <Ace2016> ubuntu_:  (recovery mode) what errors do you get when you use the recovery mode?
[06:01] <ubuntu_> K-Ryan: Not AFAIK.
[06:02] <K-Ryan> It should be right underneath the option you were using.
[06:02] <ubuntu_> The thing is, I don't seem to *have* any options - unless there's some intervention with an F key or somesuch.
[06:02] <Ace2016> ???
[06:02] <K-Ryan> No
[06:03] <K-Ryan> There isn't
[06:03] <ubuntu_> Oh.
[06:03] <K-Ryan> So hold on
[06:03] <ubuntu_> OK.
[06:03] <K-Ryan> You can pick "Ubuntu Kernel....." right?
[06:03] <K-Ryan> In that menu that pops up
[06:03] <maloso> hi i have a question i dont know my  root password how can i get this?
[06:03] <ubuntu_> There's no 'menu' - Ubuntu Kernal shows automaticall at the top of the screen.
[06:04] <Lichte> the release notes to 3.5.7 says it includes kdevelop 3.4.1, but after upgrading only 3.4.0 is available....will 3.4.1 be available soon ?
[06:04] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: so you don't have a send option like in here? http://yekubuntu.free.fr/hoary/images/grub.jpeg
[06:04] <ubuntu_> No. it not gui at all.
[06:04] <kane_> maloso: ubuntu doesnt really use the root password, you can use sudo for everything.
[06:04] <ubuntu_> just a few lines of code on the black screen.
[06:05] <kane_> and if something asks for the root password, just enter your normal password.
[06:05] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: so you don't get that chooser? like the one in the image?
[06:05] <ubuntu_> oh, hang on
[06:05] <ubuntu_> didn't see the url ...
[06:05] <kane_> if he doesnt have another os installed he wont get the chooser.
[06:05] <ubuntu_> No, I don't get the chooser.
[06:05] <K-Ryan> Does Kubuntu try to boot?
[06:05] <ubuntu_> Only have (K)ubuntu.
[06:06] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: did you have windows installed?
[06:06] <kane_> ok you have to hit like f5 during boot.
[06:06] <kane_> or somthing
[06:06] <ubuntu_> K-Ryan: Yes, it does, but stops at the word 'boot'
[06:06] <kane_> it tells you what to press
[06:06] <K-Ryan> Okay, now I'm understanding this
[06:06] <ubuntu_> Ace2016: Previoulsy , yes.
[06:06] <K-Ryan> Well the problem, not the solution.
[06:06] <abe> maybe he can use a live cd to reinstall grub
[06:06] <ubuntu_> OK. So I'll try again and press F5?
[06:06] <rothchild> thanls kane I'm not 100% sure what I've done but I appear to be wirelessly connected now! WOOT!
[06:07] <abe> !es
[06:07] <ubotwo> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:07] <Ace2016> what about mounting the root partition and making sure the menu.lst is ok?
[06:08] <ubuntu_> Ace2016: Not sure how to do that.
[06:08] <K-Ryan> Oh did I say /etc/fstab before?
[06:08] <Lichte> anyone know how to get networkmanager to keep my domain named saved ??
[06:08] <K-Ryan> I meant /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:08] <ubuntu_> K-Ryan: Yes, you did.
[06:08] <kane_> rothchild: heh, awesome.
[06:09] <K-Ryan> ubuntu_: Sorry, I was thinking about my swap problem from before...
[06:09] <ubuntu_> Thank God, I've at least got the Live CD so I can check all this out!!
[06:09] <ubuntu_> I mean to join this channel.
[06:09] <K-Ryan> Mmm
[06:09] <audiowork> are sata NTFS drives recognized at install?
[06:10] <kane_> audiowork: they should be, you might have to mount them yourself.
[06:10] <ubuntu_> K-Ryan: Shall I reboot and F5?
[06:10] <K-Ryan> I think so audiowork, mine were.
[06:10] <K-Ryan> ubuntu_: Worth a shot
[06:10] <K-Ryan> We'll start there I guess
[06:10] <kane_> ubuntu_: look for what it tells you to press.
[06:10] <ubuntu_> K-Ryan: OK, I'll (probably) be back :)
[06:10] <ubuntu_> thx for help so far.
[06:10] <kane_> i cant recall ifts f5 or not
[06:10] <K-Ryan> Come back to let us know if it works just in case it does.
[06:11] <Ace2016> well the thing i don't get is installing gnome in kubuntu should not do this, it shouldn't mess up the kernel or grub, did the process get interupted?? the only thing it messes with the kernel that'll leave you with a non booting system is the initrd image,
[06:11] <ubuntu_> F-Ryan: OK.
[06:11] <abe> ubuntu_ maybe check first the grub
[06:11] <audiowork> kane_: ok i have 3 hds right now. 2 data 1 system. I want format system throw kubuntu on
[06:11] <K-Ryan> abe: He's trying recovery mode
[06:11] <ubuntu_> Ace2016: AFAIK nothing go t interuppted
[06:11] <ubuntu_> abe: How check that?
[06:11] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: if thats not tehre then
[06:12] <ubuntu_> OK. I'll brb
[06:12] <K-Ryan> ubuntu_: Try the F5 first
[06:12] <ubuntu_> kk
[06:12] <kane_> aaahhh youre talking about during the actual install proccess.  like during the partion part yes?
[06:12] <Ace2016> ubuntu_: then go to the option you have in grub, then press "e", go to the second line, press "e" again and edit it and remove splash and quiet from the end of it
[06:12] <Ace2016> :/
[06:12] <abe> jajaja
[06:12] <abe> maybe later :)
[06:13] <kane_> audiowork: it whould recognize it, you might have to remember what size it is so you can identify it from the other harddrives.
[06:14] <caotic> hi
[06:14] <K-Ryan> Hi caotic!
[06:14] <caotic> does anyone know if it's possible to pipe a video emulating a webcam usb port or something like that?
[06:15] <caotic> I want to stream a video to a friend I am chatting with on webcam, can I tell amsn to read the video as a webcam stream?
[06:18] <kilrae__> would someone mind helping me confirm an openoffice bug?  certain documents crash OO for me, but I've tested it in Windows and SuSe and they're fine, I'm wondering if it's the ubuntu package or me
[06:19] <LjL> kilrae__, i suppose i need the documents, but yes
[06:19] <kilrae__> LjL: http://www.attorneygeneral.jus.gov.on.ca/english/courts/feewaiver/guide-forms.asp
[06:19] <terrestre> i take a look too
[06:20] <kilrae__> LjL: try opening one of the word documents
[06:20] <ubuntu_> Hi guys. 'escape' accessed the menu.
[06:20] <terrestre> so you have a hidden grub
[06:20] <K-Ryan> Any luck with recovery mode?
[06:20] <ubuntu_> There are 3 kernels and recovery options....
[06:20] <kilrae__> the first two (at least) cause crashes
[06:20] <ubuntu_> 2.6.17-11-386, 17-10, 15-27, 15-26
[06:20] <terrestre> kilrae__: pdf or word?
[06:20] <kilrae__> terrestre: word
[06:20] <K-Ryan> ubuntu_: Try the second normal option
[06:21] <kane_> kilrae__: crashes mine.
[06:21] <ubuntu_> 17-10?
[06:21] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[06:21] <Yorokobi> kilrae__, and mine
[06:21] <kilrae__> ok, so it's probably an ubuntu bug
[06:21] <ubuntu_> K-Ryan: OK, thx. I'll be back (as Arnie promises)
[06:21] <ubuntu__> how to enable option "most used recent application" in start menu in Kubuntu?
[06:21] <K-Ryan> =P
[06:21] <kilrae__> either that or it crashes everything but windows and suse
[06:22] <kilrae__> and windows and suse have the bugs
[06:22] <K-Ryan> ubuntu__: The KDE Menu lists everything, the 4 icons to the right of the KDE Menu can be configured to use the most recently used applications however.
[06:22] <terrestre> jaja same here
[06:23] <kilrae__> kane_, terrestre, Yorokobi: thanks
[06:23] <K-Ryan> Right click one of the icons then click "configure quicklauncher"
[06:23] <ubuntu__> Thx K-ryan but thats not enabled by default in Kubuntu like on most other KDE-centric distros
[06:24] <K-Ryan> It was enabled by default for me once I upgraded to Feisty
[06:25] <ubuntu__> i didnt try Kubuntu feisty yet, but will see :)
[06:25] <K-Ryan> Dapper or Edgy user?
[06:25] <ubuntu__> Edgy
[06:25] <K-Ryan> Upgrade =)
[06:25] <terrestre> jaja
[06:25] <ubuntu__> Ok :)
[06:25] <terrestre> maybe its better just intall feisty
[06:26] <chuen> K-Ryan: (I was _ubuntu with boot problem) Phew! that worked fine. Thanks
[06:26] <terrestre> :)
[06:26] <chuen> K-Ryan: But what do I need to do next?
[06:26] <K-Ryan> Yeah about that
[06:26] <andre> hello, I installed wine, but I don't see any option for it in the applications section, can someone help me?
[06:26] <chuen> K-Ryan: Can I see why it happened?
[06:26] <K-Ryan> andre: alt+f2 > winefile
[06:26] <andre> thanks
[06:26] <K-Ryan> You're welcome
[06:27] <K-Ryan> chuen: I'm not sure so from here on out you're going to need someone else
[06:27] <chuen> OK.  Maybe if in remeove GDE (which *seemd* to cause the problem) ?
[06:27] <K-Ryan> Try that
[06:27] <chuen> OK. Thanks for saving my ass.
[06:27] <chuen> :)
[06:27] <K-Ryan> ;)
[06:27] <chuen> ttyl.
[06:28] <K-Ryan> Good luck
[06:28] <chuen> Thx.
[06:28] <terrestre> what is gde?
[06:28] <terrestre> gnome desktop?
[06:28] <K-Ryan> gnome desktop environment
[06:29] <K-Ryan> Ever wonder what K stands for in KDE?
[06:29] <ubuntu__> with metacity
[06:29] <ubuntu__> Kool
[06:29] <K-Ryan> lol
[06:29] <_4str1> K afka !
[06:29] <K-Ryan> "K Desktop Environment"
[06:29] <ubuntu__> Koll
[06:29] <ubuntu__> Kool
[06:29] <ubuntu__> Krap ? :)
[06:29] <K-Ryan> Krazy
[06:29] <terrestre> Kde Desktop Environment
[06:29] <terrestre> :P
[06:30] <K-Ryan> K Desktop Environment Desktop Environment?
[06:30] <hyper_ch> bon jour HymnToLife
[06:30] <hyper_ch> hiho
[06:30] <terrestre> like GNU
[06:30] <Jucato> it doesn't stand for anything
[06:30] <terrestre> Gnu Not Unix
[06:30] <K-Ryan> Obviously Jucato =P
[06:30] <ubuntu__> Gnome Not Unix
[06:30] <terrestre> no GNU means Gnu Not Unix
[06:30] <Jucato> it once, just once, stood for "Kool",but was immediately removed
[06:31] <_4str1> Jucato: you're right
[06:31] <K-Ryan> Haha
[06:31] <ubuntu__> No its,Gnome Not Unix
[06:31] <_4str1> Jucato: wikipedia powa :p
[06:31] <Yorokobi> GNU - GNU is Not Unix
[06:31] <Jucato> _4str1: memory powah
[06:31] <terrestre> i forgot the is
[06:31] <_4str1> :)
[06:31] <terrestre> jojo
[06:31] <ubuntu__> GNU as animal and Gnu Not Unix, little Stallman gee joke :)
[06:32] <LjL> kilrae__: the first one opens
[06:32] <terrestre> jaja yeah
[06:32] <terrestre> i have a doubt about the pronounce of that
[06:32] <terrestre> i dont a english speaker
[06:32] <terrestre> how its pronounce gnu?
[06:33] <K-Ryan> We know, because you say "jajaja" instead of "hahaha"
[06:33] <Yorokobi> g'new
[06:33] <Jucato> terrestre: guh-noo
[06:33] <ubuntu__> english speaker mostly cannot pronounce Linux right
[06:33] <K-Ryan> I thought it was just "new"
[06:33] <Jucato> er... not "new"
[06:33] <ubuntu__> G like in Good
[06:33] <kilrae__> LjL: doesn't work for me, are you using feisty?
[06:33] <Yorokobi> It is guh-noo and guh-nome
[06:33] <K-Ryan> No way
[06:33] <K-Ryan> It's definitely "nome"
[06:35] <Jucato> K-Ryan: it's guh-nome
[06:35] <LjL> kilrae: kubuntu feisty, yes, -updates and -security enabled
[06:35] <K-Ryan> Jucato: Why?
[06:35] <Jucato> K-Ryan: because they said so
[06:35] <K-Ryan> Jucato: If you say so...
[06:36] <Yorokobi> from gnu.org: GNU is a recursive acronym for GNU's Not Unix; it is pronounced guh-noo, approximately like canoe.
[06:36] <HymnToLife> hi hyper_ch ;)
[06:36] <hyper_ch> HymnToLife: Reasmey m'a dit que Brest est moche ;)
[06:37] <K-Ryan> What's up chuen, any luck?
[06:37] <terrestre> i dont know the sound of guh, but thanks
[06:37] <maloso> ?
[06:38] <K-Ryan> terrestre: Like the g in "jugar" except it's "uh" instead of "ar"
[06:38] <chuen> K-Ryan: One sec...
[06:39] <rothchild> lol so is it lyn ux or line ux ?
[06:39] <rothchild> ;-)
[06:39] <terrestre> lyn ux
[06:39] <K-Ryan> Probably line ux
[06:39] <Yorokobi> Lyn ux
[06:39] <K-Ryan> But I say lyn ux
[06:39] <HymnToLife> nope
[06:39] <HymnToLife> lynux
[06:39] <K-Ryan> Oh, so I was right
[06:39] <Yorokobi> According to Torvalds, its Leenux
[06:39] <terrestre> its lyn ux i heard that pronounce of linux :P
[06:40] <terrestre> leenux
[06:40] <K-Ryan> Well with my accent it's more like "Lynix"
[06:40] <terrestre> yeah
[06:40] <terrestre> linus,
[06:40] <terrestre> jaja
[06:40] <terrestre> sorry
[06:40] <SUPERANTE> ciao
[06:40] <K-Ryan> Peanuts?
[06:40] <terrestre> chau
[06:40] <chuen> K-Ryan: No joy... Plus a whole shedload of other apps installed along with the basic GDE :)
[06:40] <K-Ryan> chuen: Youch
[06:41] <K-Ryan> chuen: Try removing GDE then sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:41] <chuen> Actually, a few were there already and I use them but ...........
[06:41] <K-Ryan> That should get rid of all the other GDE stuff
[06:41] <K-Ryan> Actually no, it won't
[06:41] <chuen> Oh, OK.
[06:41] <K-Ryan> Sorry =P
[06:42] <chuen> No prob. At least I can et into Kubuntu OK.
[06:42] <K-Ryan> terrestre: Linus as in Linus from Peanuts? aka Charlie Brown
[06:42] <n0n4m3-> i have a question
[06:42] <K-Ryan> Sure thing n0n4m3
[06:42] <chuen> I had Gnome on my box before, but uninstalled it .
[06:42] <n0n4m3-> last night an update was ready to be installed i installed it and today when i want to load a torrent file in ktorrent or any other torrent client i get this message     http://shrani.si/files/posnetek22114m3.png
[06:42] <n0n4m3-> the update was someting
[06:42] <n0n4m3-> security
[06:43] <n0n4m3-> or someting can't remember
[06:43] <terrestre> jaja K-Ryan I suppoused, well i forget the word
[06:43] <chuen> K-Ryan: What I'll probably do is try on this Channel over the weekend and see if anyone has a clue :)
[06:43] <terrestre> chuen you are in the livecd now?
[06:43] <K-Ryan> chuen: Someone is bound to know so stick your head in from time to time
[06:43] <n0n4m3-> can anyone help me? please.
[06:43] <chuen> terrestre: No, HD boot.
[06:44] <K-Ryan> n0n4m3: Sometimes you have to wait around in here, but if someone knows how to help you they will.
[06:44] <chuen> K-Ryan: That's wht I figured - and usually a damn helful bunch too!
[06:44] <n0n4m3-> K-Ryan,  ok:/
[06:44] <dany_21> hello all! i have there a little problem with konqueror and mounting internal (and some external drives) since update to feisty
[06:44] <n0n4m3-> but it's really weird..
[06:44] <K-Ryan> n0n4m3: Does it do that with any other torrent files?
[06:44] <dany_21> So, does anybody know, how konqueror mounts drives, which appear in media:/ ? because, if i click on a unmounted drive, i get: "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" - but if i type "pmount /dev/sdb1" it just works... (xpost in kde)
[06:44] <chuen> OK - dinner time here in London
[06:44] <n0n4m3-> K-Ryan,  yea
[06:45] <chuen> ttyl and thanks again.
[06:45] <n0n4m3-> i try 2 different
[06:45] <n0n4m3-> albums
[06:45] <n0n4m3-> i mean
[06:45] <n0n4m3-> torrent files
[06:45] <K-Ryan> Have you tried a non musical torrent?
[06:45] <n0n4m3-> no
[06:45] <n0n4m3-> should i ?
[06:45] <K-Ryan> Try it just in case that has something to do with it.
[06:45] <n0n4m3-> ok
[06:45] <K-Ryan> We might as well rule it out if that's not it.
[06:45] <kane_> and use a torrent from a different site, as well.
[06:46] <n0n4m3-> it works
[06:46] <n0n4m3-> with an movie
[06:46] <n0n4m3-> torrent
[06:46] <K-Ryan> Bad torrent files then
[06:46] <kane_> sounds like those torrent files might just be corrupt.
[06:46] <K-Ryan> Somehow
[06:46] <n0n4m3-> well
[06:46] <n0n4m3-> ok..
[06:46] <n0n4m3-> I'll try a different
[06:46] <dr_willis> or they are fake-torrent files being released by the MPAA dogs! :0
[06:46] <n0n4m3-> torrent file then
[06:48] <matrix> how to install flash on kubuntu?
[06:48] <K-Ryan> !flash
[06:48] <dr_willis> !flash
[06:48] <ubotwo> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:48] <n0n4m3-> it work's
[06:48] <K-Ryan> beat you =)
[06:49] <dr_willis> You Flasher!
[06:49] <n0n4m3-> looks like it was corrupted
[06:49] <n0n4m3-> :)
[06:49] <dr_willis> I beat you! :)
[06:49] <K-Ryan> ubotu broke?
[06:49] <ubotwo> Sorry, I know nothing about that - try http://help.ubuntu.com/community/
[06:49] <dr_willis> yeppers
[06:49] <matrix> thanks!!!!
[06:50] <K-Ryan> No problem
[06:50] <kane_> i dont understand why people are making such a large deal that the dell ubuntu boxes are not shipping with multimedia codecs...
[06:51] <dr_willis> kane_,  make a point back to them that legally they CANT.. and tell them to write the MPAA/RIAA/Congress
[06:51] <kane_> will, my point is always that windows doesnt come with those codecs either.
[06:51] <dr_willis> kane_,  i was just about to say that also. :)
[06:51] <kane_> so whats the issue? on both oses you have to install em.
[06:52] <dr_willis> windows can do it  automaticially isntall ing of codecs.. makes that spyware MUCH easier to get. :0
[06:52] <dr_willis> somthing  i tell every windows user to dissable.
[06:52] <K-Ryan> Why would we not be allowed to get the codecs?
[06:52] <K-Ryan> Isn't it just a file type?
[06:52] <dr_willis> one guy wondered why i said that.. - THEN he auto-downloaded/installed a windows-codec-virus :)
[06:52] <dr_willis> K-Ryan,  legal issues are soo... interesting
[06:53] <dec_> loaded feisty fawn and now when I go to shut down it will not shut down all the way any ideas
[06:53] <kane_> K-Ryan: well, codecs should be licensed.
[06:53] <kane_> well many of them atleast.
[06:53] <dr_willis> From a legal point of view  - in america - im not allowed to play dvd's using that decess stuff.
[06:53] <kane_> its mainly an issue with the DVDs
[06:53] <terrestre> !es
[06:53] <ubotwo> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:53] <dr_willis> of course its only recently that the Gif standard got away from its legal issues.