[08:05] <gaintsura> how can I clear my outgoing sendmail queue?
[08:05] <xLnc`> ok, im trying the mounted-one again.
[08:05] <Ian_Corne> i gotta go now, cya
[08:06] <xLnc`> calculating checksums..
[08:06] <MonthOLDpickle> hey guys
[08:06] <xLnc`> its again downloading the data.
[08:07] <xyxxl> are you trying to use the ISO for the 64-bit version? It might be lookging for the 32bit one?
[08:07] <ikonia> xyxxl: I don't understand how it can use the iso as the repos on the disk will be in squash fs format
[08:08] <xLnc`> its 32 bit.
[08:08] <ikonia> xyxxl: I could only see this possible working with the alternative cd
[08:08] <xyxxl> ikaros, http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php then why would the wubi faq tell you to do so?
[08:08] <ikonia> xyxxl: no idea, I can't sese how it would work though
[08:09] <Ayabara> I move a laptop with a 1400x1050 display between docking stations at home and at work. At home I have a secondary display of 1680x1050, and at work one of 1600x1200. I have ati graphics. (How) can I make an xorg.conf that will work out in both these cases?
[08:10] <binarymutant> Ayabara: you can add another monitor in your xorg.conf, if that's what you mean
[08:11] <corinth> Alright, I'm back To reiterate:
[08:11] <corinth> Alright, so. I'm having trouble getting connected to my wifi network on my PC. I can view the available networks, but can't connect to them. Help?
[08:11] <binarymutant> corinth: how can you view them?
[08:12] <corinth> Using the networkmanager applet, binarymutant.
[08:12] <corinth> I can see their signal strength, but I can't connect.
[08:13] <binarymutant> corinth: in a terminal you can type iwconfig <device, like eth0> essid "<essid name>" enc on key s:<whatever key is>
[08:13] <Thierry> Hello
[08:13] <binarymutant> corinth: and if there's no errors or anything then just run sudo dhclient
[08:14] <BlearyBram> binarymutant: X -configure doesn't even attempt to work!
[08:14] <binarymutant> BlearyBram: I didn't know X had that option
[08:14] <ikonia> corinth: 1.) what network card model are you using 2.) drop all security on your wirless lan and try to connect that way first
[08:14] <BlearyBram> binarymutant: ah, it was someone else, but I can't recall his name
[08:14] <binarymutant> BlearyBram: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:14] <ikonia> binarymutant: that wont work as xorg is now dynamic, only defined sections will be changed
[08:15] <BlearyBram> binarymutant: I'm actually doing that in runlevel one (recivery mode)
[08:15] <Ayabara> binarymutant: what I mean is that http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4f52443e works well on my 1680x1050, and I want to modify it so it works with 1600x1200 as well
[08:15] <binarymutant> ikonia: but it gets a skel
[08:15] <ikonia> binarymutant: gets s skel ?
[08:15] <corinth> ikonia: I'm using a netgear wg111v3. How do I drop the security?
[08:15] <ikonia> corinth: is that a usb card
[08:15] <binarymutant> ikonia: it gets a skeleton xorg.conf
[08:15] <ikonia> binarymutant: just removing xorg.conf will re-create a new one on the next reboot
[08:15] <corinth> ikonia: Yes.
[08:15] <binarymutant> ikonia: didn't know that
[08:16] <ikonia> corinth: ugh, before progressing further I'd check what features are supported under linux
[08:16] <corinth> ikonia: I've used this card under Linux before, just fine. Under Ubuntu, even.
[08:17] <ikonia> corinth: so what exactly is the probem, what happenhen you try to connect
[08:17] <corinth> I try to connect to it, it looks like it might be connecting, then it is back to the beginning. Not being connected, I mean.
[08:18] <ikonia> corinth: the most common cause for that behaviour is the card not being offered an IP address via the dhcp server
[08:18] <binarymutant> Ayabara: well what if you used a resolution that works on both? like 1024x768 or what not?
[08:18] <comp6> 1650x1080 vs 1680x1050 ?
[08:19] <corinth> I'm now trying to use ndisgtk to configure it using the windows driver. I installed the driver, it says the hardware is present, but when I click Configure Network, it says "Could not find a network configuration tool".
[08:19] <mib_ik3qnigy> Hey
[08:19] <mib_ik3qnigy> I went to gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:19] <mib_ik3qnigy> I am tryign to cahgne toe boot default from ubuntu to windows
[08:19] <mib_ik3qnigy> and I can't figure out what to change
[08:19] <sparq__> Is there a way to make files in a folder automatically change file permissions when they are placed into a folder?
[08:20] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: there's a default option, change it to your windows partition I guess
[08:20] <mib_ik3qnigy> Yea trying to find it
[08:21] <mib_ik3qnigy> I can't for the life of me
[08:21] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: should be line 14;  default     0
[08:21] <xyxxl> the number is the order they show in the list near the end
[08:21] <mib_ik3qnigy> okay see the default     0
[08:22] <mib_ik3qnigy> change to default    saved
[08:22] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: if you change it to 1 it's the second entry, 2 is the third entry, and so forth
[08:22] <mib_ik3qnigy> than scroll too bottom very end where it says windows and put default   0
[08:22] <BlearyBram> xyxxl: X -configure didn't work, it simply froze.
[08:22] <xyxxl> strange
[08:23] <Thierry>  hello fans of Linux news
[08:23] <bullgard4> TunaPie called Audacious. Under the column headline 'Now Playing' TunePie shows for a particular highlighted stream: 'Johann Sebastian Bach -Suite No.02 in B minor." But Audiacious displays: "Richard Wagner - Der fliegende Holländer." And Audiacious plays it. Why does Tunapie not update its 'Now Playing' content?
[08:23] <mib_ik3qnigy> I don't see where the others other to change the order...
[08:23] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: what entry number is your windows partition? if it's the 4th one you need to put default 3
[08:24] <mib_ik3qnigy> its around line 156???
[08:24] <mib_ik3qnigy> Windows Vista/Longhorn (loader)
[08:25] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: pastebin it and let me see
[08:25] <mib_ik3qnigy> how do you pastebin lol
[08:25] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: pastebin.com, and copy paste
[08:26] <mib_ik3qnigy> http://pastebin.com/m560233dc
[08:26] <mylisto> quick question
[08:26] <revilodraw> hi, i want to use this command 'mplayer -dumpaudio [name of file].flv' in order to extract the audio from a .flv file, but when i enter this in the terminal i am told 'file not found' - do i need to cd to the file/folder, and if so, how?
[08:26] <mylisto> trying to edit a conf file...
[08:26] <mylisto> but I don't have permission?
[08:26] <gavi> how can i find out the size of a directoy and all the contents inside via terminal
[08:26] <mylisto> How do I get permission (become root)?
[08:26] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: change default 0 to default 3
[08:26] <Thierry> ?
[08:26] <Thierry> ??
[08:26] <hateball> !sudo | mylisto
[08:26] <dnyy> mylisto: sudo
[08:26] <gavi> mylisto, chmod
[08:26] <DarkKnight> ikonia; any good music players??
[08:26] <gaintsura> revilodraw: try placing the path with the filename to the command
[08:27] <revilodraw> mylisto: alt f2, 'gksudo nautilus'
[08:27] <mib_ik3qnigy> on line 14, change 0 to 3?
[08:27] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: yeah, but it might be 4 since there is an empty one.
[08:27] <revilodraw> gaintsura; at the beginning of the command>
[08:27] <binarymutant> mib_ik3qnigy: but try 3 first
[08:27] <corinth> It looks like my wifi connection gets stuck on "Requesting a network address from the wireless network [my network]
[08:27] <bullgard4> revilodraw: input the whole path of the file.
[08:28] <gavi> size of a directory and all contents inside? (via terminal)
[08:28] <xyxxl> gavi, du -chs dir
[08:28] <revilodraw> bullgard4: ooohhh  ok
[08:28] <mib_ik3qnigy> okay I am updating, will reboot after thats done.
[08:28] <gavi> xyxxl, thanx
[08:28] <xLnc`> xyxxxl.
[08:28] <mib_ik3qnigy> Also..how do I enable two monitors? The restircted nvidia driver is enabled..
[08:28] <gaintsura> revilodraw: no... like mplayer --dumpaudio /path/to/file/filename.flv
[08:28] <mib_ik3qnigy> or activated like it says it is
[08:29] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ install nvidia-settings and run it
[08:29] <corinth> After it hangs for a bit, it asks me for the authentication again. Funny thing is, I click "show key" to see what it has saved (because the key looks entirely too long), and it has something completely different. Is that just an encrypted version of my wep key, or something?
[08:29] <xLnc`> the problem is.. that my office system required 32 bit.. and i was trying the same at my home system. which is 64 bit.
[08:29] <DarkKnight> can anyone tell me any good music players??
[08:29] <xLnc`> its the reason Wubi was always downloading a fresh copy for ut.
[08:29] <hateball> DarkKnight⡶ I'm currently using Totem
[08:29] <histo> IS there a way to trip xfix?
[08:29] <mib_ik3qnigy> I see nvidia x server settings
[08:29] <ardchoille> DarkKnight: audacious
[08:29] <histo> I have a minimal install and need to configure kb and mouse for X but xorg.conf is gone now.
[08:29] <corinth> DarkKnight: Banshee.
[08:30] <DarkKnight> hateball, ardchoille, corinth; is that really good
[08:30] <comp6> anyone know how to setup a openVPN
[08:30] <corinth> DarkKnight: Banshee is awesome.
[08:30] <hateball> histo⡶ It's not used by default, but you can always create one and fill it with the info needed
[08:30] <xLnc`> the only thing im worried about now is AntiPoisner.
[08:30] <xLnc`> my internet connection doesnt work without it.
[08:30] <histo> hateball, well what is the default install of ubuntu using now to detect this stuff?
[08:30] <hateball> DarkKnight⡶ Well right now, all I need the player to do is... play. So Totem is sufficient :)
[08:30] <mib_ik3qnigy> its enabled but not working =(
[08:31] <revilodraw> bullgard4 and gaintsura ; THANKS
[08:31] <hateball> histo⡶ Xorg has autodetection these days
[08:31] <DarkKnight> corinth; so will banshee play movies also well...
[08:31] <gaintsura> yep...
[08:31] <histo> hateball, not if you just install xserver-xorg-core aparently
[08:31] <xLnc`> anyone here having any idea about anti poisner?
[08:31] <xyxxl> I've had weird issues with Wubi in the past, too, it'd be nice it it gave an error telling you why its not using the iso
[08:31] <corinth> DarkKnight: Yes.
[08:31] <mib_ik3qnigy> says I can't save
[08:31] <binarymutant> xLnc`: what anti poisner?
[08:31] <mib_ik3qnigy> Unable to create new X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'.
[08:31] <binarymutant> wahts*
[08:31] <DarkKnight> i am trying to copy a video from a cd but only part of it is being copied....
[08:32] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ Some settings need to be changed as root, ie sudo
[08:32] <Ayabara> Should my days of xorg.conf-editing be over? If I want to setup dual screen on my laptop with ati graphics, should I use ati's configuration tool?
[08:32] <mylisto> anyone ever get an xbox to stream with ubuntu?
[08:32] <mib_ik3qnigy> err I am really new..thats like UAC in vista isn't it
[08:33] <xLnc`> binary : a AutoHotKey script
[08:33] <arrenlex> Ayabara: What display driver? If it su[pports xrandr you would use that...
[08:33] <hateball> !sudo | mib_ik3qnigy
[08:33] <snek> hey all, now running ubuntu on my work imac as well.. ubuntu > osx :)
[08:33] <mib_ik3qnigy> do I do that in terminal
[08:33] <xLnc`> binding set of IPs with some hard-coded mac addresses.
[08:33] <rakoo> any HPmini user ? i'can't boot from my usb drive ine order to install ubuntu... ve tried every tuto found on Mr google but not a clue, doesn't work, after boot device menu it's freeze...
[08:33] <xyxxl> mylisto, i've streamed to my PS3 from Ubuntu, I'd imagine the 360 isnt much different
[08:33] <xLnc`> arp -s <IP>  <Mac-Address> - maybe
[08:34] <mib_ik3qnigy> how do I get the nvidia settigns to work...
[08:34] <DarkKnight> i am trying to copy a video from a cd but only part of it is being copied....can anyone help
[08:34] <mib_ik3qnigy> !sudo I see
[08:34] <Ayabara> arrenlex: I have one working xorg.conf that says driver=fglrx, and another working one that doesn't mention driver at all
[08:34] <mylisto> did you have to use ushare xyxxl:
[08:34] <mib_ik3qnigy>    !sudo what in terminal
[08:35] <phnom> mylisto: check out twonkymedia, I got it to work with my xbox
[08:35] <xyxxl> mylisto, I'm checking the repos to see if I can remember what i was using
[08:35] <sleepy_cat> I am only a human.. please dont think i m not intelligent :)
[08:35] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ Yes, you run that in a terminal. Or with the Alt+F2 launcher. Also, it helps if you adress your questions to me, cant see them otherwise :)
[08:35] <Ayabara> arrenlex: it's a laptop with 1400x1050 that I use on docking stations with 1680x1050 and 1600x1200. I want my system to automatically find out which one and set the resolution accordingly
[08:36] <xLnc`> anyone here knows about a good starting guide for ubuntu?
[08:36] <arrenlex> Ayabara: Ah, that's beyond what I've done... sorry.
[08:36] <mib_ik3qnigy> hateball, what else do I type after !sudo
[08:36] <arrenlex> !dualhead | Ayabara, this might be useful:
[08:36] <Ayabara> arrenlex: thanks
[08:37] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ You type "sudo <command>" In this case nvidia-settings. Be sure to read up about rights tho, dont just run as root in hopes of getting stuff to work
[08:37] <mylisto> I'm in terminal
[08:37] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ Because that can be very dangerous
[08:37] <mylisto> How do I become root?
[08:37] <arrenlex> !root | mylisto
[08:38] <DarkKnight> i am trying to copy a video from a cd but only part of it is being copied....can anyone help
[08:38] <fallore> pidgin randomly closes, no idea why, and i'm not running that facebook chat thing either. anyone got a clue? :/
[08:38] <arrenlex> mylisto: Ugh, that was useless.   I'm trying to install a minimal system with fluxbox
[08:38] <mib_ik3qnigy> hateball I try !sudo nvidia-settings and I get app not found
[08:38] <xyxxl> you can use root by doing 'sudo su -'
[08:38] <Skryre> Im trying to install wine but keeping getting a long list of errors with connections, could anyone help?
[08:38] <DigitalFiz> i think my ubuntu box is showing up as  "Unknown Device" in vista anyone else have this problem?
[08:39] <skoef> xyxxl: sudo -i?
[08:39] <hovis> Anyone know of a standard command to write th contents of the system clipboard to a file?
[08:39] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ that's because it's sudo and not !sudo
[08:39] <hovis> or know where that clipboard is kept (if it's a file).
[08:39] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ !sudo is just a way to trigger a factoid here on IRC ;)
[08:39] <xyxxl> skoef, one of the other many ways
[08:39] <fallore> wow that !sudo command really messed people up lol
[08:39] <mib_ik3qnigy> hateball /facepalm
[08:40] <StormAtRest> I read a good article about nvidia drivers?
[08:40] <StormAtRest> can i paste the link here?
[08:40] <[RIP]Gallows> how do I make a emerald --replace run at start up
[08:40] <StormAtRest> maybe it can be useful to hateball.
[08:40] <mylisto> ah well
[08:40] <mylisto> I'll do this later
[08:40] <sparq__> I'm trying to set up acl but when I enter the command "sudo setfacl -dm g:torrents:rwx home/[username]/torrents" it comes up with an error what am i doing wrong?
[08:40] <hateball> [RIP]Gallows⡶ You can put it in compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:41] <[RIP]Gallows> ah yes
[08:41] <[RIP]Gallows> thanks
[08:41] <BlearyBram> just tried to installed the ATi installer, but it said that 'vcdk' non existent, what's that?
[08:41] <blip-> hi all,  I'm using kernel <IP_ADDRESS>-generic on ubuntu.   I installed the next .22 kernel but it won't boot.... it gets frozen on starting boot scripts rc.local.... I'm using the exact same lines in menu.lst as for the .21 kernel i'm on now.  (except for the number change)... this is the line:    kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-22-generic BOOT_IMAGE=linux-0 root=/dev/sda2 quiet splash ro i8042.nomux=1   \n  initrd
[08:41] <blip-> (hd0,1)/boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-22-generic    ... do you think the problem could be related to this ?    Thanks
[08:41] <sparq__> I either get "setfacl: Option -m: Invalid argument near character 3
[08:41] <sparq__> "
[08:41] <blip-> using 8.04
[08:41] <sparq__> or I'llegal operation
[08:41] <mib_ik3qnigy> hateball /facepalm
[08:41] <mib_ik3qnigy> hateball sorry for my noobness
[08:41] <mib_ik3qnigy> hateball so separate x screen and I choose resolution..do I ahev to restart for it to work?
[08:41] <mib_ik3qnigy> hateball I also saved it to the config
[08:41] <FloodBot3> mib_ik3qnigy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:42] <hateball> mib_ik3qnigy⡶ You only need to restart X, a logout should do.
[08:42] <hateball> !pm |  Skryre
[08:42] <mib_ik3qnigy> ah okay
[08:42] <sparq__> I'm trying to set up acl but when I enter the command "sudo setfacl -dm g:torrents:rwx home/[username]/torrents" it comes up with an error what am i doing wrong?
[08:42] <mib_ik3qnigy> You know a site that I can grab most commands needed to know in linux so I can print at work??
[08:44] <f00fyf00f3rz> Hello world
[08:44] <Skryre> Does anyone know what this means? W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:44] <arrenlex> !apt | Skryre
[08:44] <randomwalker> mib_ik3qnigy http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+command+line+cheat+sheet
[08:45] <arrenlex> ugh, that was way less helpful than I thought.
[08:46] <Feltan> hello everyone. Does anybody know if Kdenlive 0.7 will be included in Ubuntus repository or do i have to compile by myself. ?
[08:47] <five_> anyone know how to change panel theme?
[08:48] <DarkKnight> hey is there any tool to split videos
[08:49] <hateball> DarkKnight⡶ Not sure, but avidemux might be able to do it
[08:49] <Ebubekir_> #commochat
[08:50] <Cope> Using hardy heron - firefox has crashed, and now when I try to start it I see the process, but it seems to be hanging indefinitely and won't start
[08:50] <yinoneh> hi. anyone knows how to add edit the 'places' applet in main Gnome panel ? thanks in advance.
[08:51] <Cope> iirc there's a lock file or something I can remove? or is there another way?
[08:51] <bkr> #commochat
[08:51] <hateball> yinoneh⡶ are you looking to add items?
[08:51] <yinoneh> Cope: start it through the command line
[08:51] <Guest35045> hi. I want to test ubuntu but i have a problem
[08:51] <Cope> yinoneh: i did
[08:51] <Skryre> I tried to use sudo apt-get update and it seems like it worked most of the way down, but then at end I get a sizable list of erros all beginning with W
[08:51] <Cope> yinoneh: it's hanging - not doing anything
[08:51] <yinoneh> hateball: ys
[08:51] <yinoneh> yes
[08:52] <hateball> yinoneh⡶ You can open Nautilus, browse somewhere and bookmark it. Then it'll show up
[08:52] <private_meta> hi there... can someone tell me why, without notice, the network manager symbol where i could change my ip address disappeared from my panel, as well as I'm not able to change my network settings from dhcp to manual IP since I've upgraded to ibex?
[08:52] <smnab> I've noticed something strange, typing free or top in the terminal always shows more memory usage than gnome system monitor. Why does this happen?
[08:52] <yinoneh> Cope: strace firefox
[08:52] <paissad> hi everybody, i'm new here !
[08:52] <hateball> !hi | paissad
[08:52] <Guest35045> there are two disributives of ubuntu:ubuntu-8.04-desktop-amd64
[08:52] <paissad> that's the fisrt time i join an IRC chat  !
[08:52] <Guest35045> ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386
[08:52] <yinoneh> hateball: thanks !
[08:53] <Guest35045> and i don't know which of them should i to download
[08:53] <DarkKnight> hateball; are you sure
[08:53] <hateball> DarkKnight⡶ No, I started my sentance with "I'm not sure" for that particular reason ;)
[08:53] <paissad> Guest35045, it depends on your pc config !
[08:53] <Cope> what's the pasting guideline in this channel? is 4/5 lines ok, or pastebin preferred?
[08:53] <Guest35045> my cpu is amd sempron.Which ubuntu i should to download?
[08:54] <DigitalFiz> is there a proper way to update openoffice to 3.0 for ubuntu 8.10?
[08:54] <BlearyBram> is it possible to downgrade back into Hardy if I've updated over the air?
[08:54] <hateball> Guest35045⡶ i386
[08:54] <BlearyBram> DigitalFiz: Err, I don't think they've packaged that yet unfortunately.
[08:54] <hateball> DigitalFiz⡶ There's a PPA repo for it
[08:54] <paissad> Guest35045, ok you are amd sempron, but you must also know what kind of cpu you have 32 bits ou 64 bits
[08:54] <BlearyBram> hateball: I wonder why you're using ⡶?
[08:55] <paissad> Guest35045, understand ?
[08:55] <Cope> just that pastebin is a challenge, if my browser is broken :)
[08:55] <DigitalFiz> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[08:55] <hateball> BlearyBram⡶ Because I can
[08:55] <DigitalFiz> think that was my answer
[08:55] <BlearyBram> hateball: right…
[08:55] <Guest35045> hm. i386 for amd semrpron? Its not only for intels?
[08:55] <BlearyBram> anyway, is it possible to downgrade?
[08:55] <Skryre> could anyone explain what
[08:55] <Skryre>  E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:55] <Skryre> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[08:55] <Skryre> means?
[08:55] <FloodBot3> Skryre: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:55] <walker1> quit
[08:55] <BlearyBram> Guest32660: I think that's because it's down to 386 architecture are actually being shared.
[08:56] <Tita> Hi every body! I'm new here and I wanna ask some questions about ubuntu!
[08:56] <snek> question: i am running CompizFusion now, anyone know which command is Super+Tab? I want to change it to the same as Alt+Tab but can't figure out what command it's calling..
[08:56] <paissad> Guest35045, 32 bits must works well for you !
[08:56] <Guest35045> hateball.you told to me?
[08:57] <xyxxl> smnab, free and top are giving the 'total' as including buffers and cached memory, gnome-system-monitor is not
[08:57] <Tyrath> what's the .bashrc for consoles?
[08:57] <snek> Guest35045: i386 is generic for all x86 processors... works on any brand which can run windows.. to explain it in a simple way
[08:57] <paissad> is our ip adress which is displayed in the chat ?
[08:57] <smnab> xyxxl: so which one is more accurate?
[08:57] <paissad> who know ?
[08:58] <xyxxl> depends on your definition of RAM ussage :P
[08:58] <jschall> my audio keeps totally crapping out on me, when i try to play something in rhythmbox it sits at 0:00 and there's no command line output.
[08:58] <Scare|Working> Hi all
[08:58] <jschall> 8.10
[08:58] <Tyrath> actually don't worry
[08:59] <hateball> jschall⡶ Do you have a site with flash open+
[08:59] <paissad> nobody knows ? ........... i asked if it was our ip adresses which ares displayed on the chat !
[08:59] <paissad> ??
[08:59] <Tyrath> I just realised that I had to run source .bashrc from a console to get .bashrc to take effect
[08:59] <jschall> hateball: i did, not atm though
[08:59] <xyxxl> paissad, your ip address is displayed in the chat here
[08:59] <hateball> jschall⡶ But there's still Firefox windows open?
[08:59] <Tyrath> doing it in a terminal doesn't cut it
[08:59] <jschall> hateball: none
[08:59] <paissad> xyxxl, oh !
[09:00] <hateball> jschall⡶ and you've restarted rhythmbox?
[09:00] <paissad> xyxxl, is that a good thing ?
[09:00] <paissad> i don't think so !
[09:00] <jschall> hateball: yes, just did so, same issue, definitely NO firefox running at all
[09:00] <hateball> !cloak | paissad
[09:00] <xyxxl> paissad, i dont think of it as a good or bad thing, your ip address isnt exactly a secret thing.
[09:01] <hateball> jschall⡶ That sounds weird then. _something_ is obviously hogging the sound tho
[09:01] <paissad> xyxxl, maybe, but it's safier not to display it !
[09:01] <paissad> no ?
[09:01] <hateball> jschall⡶ Firefox+Flash usually does it for me
[09:01] <jschall> hateball: let me kill pidgin
[09:01] <youshaoyun> any more terminal tools to introduce me?
[09:01] <karooga> hi, I've upgraded from hardy to intrepid and now X doesn't work - gdm starts up but there is only rubbish shown on the screen.  Any ideas for what I can do to fix this?
[09:02] <sonoblaise> HI!  I'm running Intrepid (wich I just discovered is still an Alpha release!)and I encounter some weird problems with DVDs and visualisation in RythmBox (and the symptom is the same so I guess it comes from the same bug/problem/error/thing)...  I have a Dell Inspiron 6400 with an ATI Mobility card and I use the native drivers from ubuntu because I cant get my screen res with the ati drivers...  When I load a DVD (with libcss2
[09:02] <sonoblaise> installed and totem, gxine or VLC) or turn the visualisation on in RythmBox, the software just close without a word
[09:03] <hateball> sonoblaise⡶ starting it from a terminal should give you the error output
[09:03] <paissad> this chat is international ............. but does it have irc channel for only some country ? ...........; for example FRANCE
[09:03] <paissad> ??
[09:03] <hateball> !fr | paissad
[09:03] <sonoblaise> hateball:  I already tried it... dont remember the output but it's pretty long
[09:04] <paissad> ubottu, ok , thanks !
[09:04] <sonoblaise> hateball:  can it be compiz that create conflict??
[09:04] <hateball> sonoblaise⡶ Well if you pastebin it, someone might be able to help :)
[09:04] <potwak> how can i install the driver of my video card since the driver that i have is only running on windows?
[09:04] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hi guys, I was thinking of backing up my dvd collection and was wondering if you guys had any suggestions on a suitable piece of software for ubuntu to do this?
[09:04] <sonoblaise> hateball:  uh...  pardon my noobness... what is pastebin?
[09:04] <hateball> oh207⡶ dvd::rip is pretty nice
[09:05] <hateball> !pastebin | sonoblaise
[09:05] <BlearyBram> sonoblaise: how did you run intrepid in native drivers? I can't and it's constantly send me into low graphics mode, it said (EE) No devices detected.
[09:05] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: you talking to me?
[09:05] <jschall> well, i'm just going to do the firefox padsp thing and see if it happens in the future, if it does i'll do further digging
[09:05] <potwak> how can i install the driver of my video card since the driver that i have is only running on windows?
[09:05] <hateball> ohletmeinnowgodd⡶ Yeah, tab complete failure :)
[09:06] <Wartorn> Having issues with gphoto2, if i connect two cameras and i try to communicate with the non-default one using --port="usb05,18" for an example, it blatantly ignores it and just connects to the default one. is this a bug?
[09:06] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: ok, well when i make copies, will the menus also be copied or only the video?
[09:06] <sonoblaise> BlearyBram:  don't really know... it just worked out of the "box"
[09:06] <potwak> could anyone help me please?
[09:06] <BlearyBram> sonoblaise: ok
[09:06] <sonoblaise> BlearyBram:  I tried ATI drivers but deactivated it
[09:07] <potwak> vega
[09:07] <histo> This is driving me nuts. How do I get the keyboard and mouse working with a X on a minimal install?
[09:08] <hateball> ohletmeinnowgodd⡶ are you looking to do 1:1 backups+
[09:08] <hateball> ohletmeinnowgodd⡶ Because dvdrip... rips the video
[09:09] <sonoblaise> hateball:  here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/82874/
[09:09] <monkeyw1> shi ma ?
[09:09] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: yes 1:1 backups
[09:09] <potwak> i hope i will not be flamed for posting my question thrice. :)
[09:09] <potwak> how can i install the driver of my video card since the driver that i have is only running on windows?
[09:09] <ohletmeinnowgodd> potwak: i think you should check hardware manager
[09:10] <hateball> ohletmeinnowgodd⡶ Well that could easily be done by just inserting the disc, rightclicking it and saving as an ISO image
[09:10] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: lol i just downloaded dvdrip anyways
[09:10] <ohletmeinnowgodd> lol
[09:10] <potwak> i'm using VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP
[09:10] <hateball> ohletmeinnowgodd⡶ Well hat has it's uses as well so :)
[09:11] <hateball> sonoblaise⡶ Afraid I've no idea. Keep in the channel tho, someone else might :)
[09:11] <potwak> ohletmeinnowgodd: the graphics on ubunt are so large.
[09:12] <potwak> ohletmeinnowgodd: i'm using VIA/S3G UniChrome Pro IGP
[09:13] <trupheenix> is there a limit to how many terminals i can create
[09:13] <trupheenix> now i get an error that couldn't create process when i click on the terminal icon :(
[09:13] <trupheenix> why?
[09:13] <karooga> Hi, how do I fix: "SIS: No matching Device section for instance" in X?  (I've just upgraded from hardy to intrepid).
[09:14] <sonoblaise> here is the output from rythmbox when I activate visualisation : http://paste.ubuntu.com/82875/
[09:14] <BlearyBram> karooga: ah, I ahve the similar problem
[09:14] <potwak> could someone help me fix my problem?
[09:14] <potwak> how can i install the driver of my video card since the driver that i have is only running on windows?
[09:14] <karooga> BlearyBram: is it still a problem or have you fixed it?
[09:14] <hateball> !patience | potwak
[09:15] <potwak> ok. i apologize. i'm just runnin out of time.
[09:15] <BlearyBram> karooga: I've just updated and so I'm in the middle of the trouble too. :S
[09:15] <Finnish> Is this video working for someone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO6N8JoayPU I can see some youtube-videos, but this and many others, nada, no way
[09:15] <karooga> BlearyBram: how many hours now? ;-)
[09:16] <BlearyBram> karooga: about 2 hours
[09:16] <BlearyBram> ?
[09:16] <BlearyBram> and still looking for solution
[09:16] <hateball> Finnish⡶ Working just fine on Intrepid
[09:16] <BlearyBram> the latest ATi driver won't install.
[09:16] <karooga> BlearyBram: I'm asking on #xorg but think everyone is away
[09:16] <Finnish> hateball: Damn, I'm also on intrepid and no luck
[09:16] <huwenfeng>  hi all, i wonder how does the rsync daemon 's pre-xfer exec works!  and the post-xfer exec    i just write a script that return -1 as the pre-xfer exec command, though the transfer did not occur, but the post-xfer exec still executed. any one know about this?
[09:16] <bukuroshi> hello
[09:17] <MonthOLDpickle> hateball, two screens is buggy isn't it? Its set at native resolution but it leaving a big blank area and yea...
[09:18] <karooga> BlearyBram: do you also have SIS?
[09:18] <BlearyBram> karooga: SIS?
[09:18]  * BlearyBram checks
[09:19] <XB23> hi guys when doing ls -l dir  what measurment is the filesize shown in kb mb gb?
[09:19] <MonthOLDpickle> anybody knwo why now in my boot menu linux generic and generic recovery mode is listed twice (memtest isn't and winows isn't) I had one before but after changing defaul 0 to a different number - trying 5 now) its like that
[09:19] <BlearyBram> don't think so, not now anyway
[09:19] <xyxxl> XB23, kb
[09:19] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: well i tried the right click thing and save as iso...but it ended up "completing" witthin seconds after i hit "copy"...looking at the "image" file...its tooo small to be a dvd copy...
[09:19] <XB23> ta
[09:19] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball:  i mean were talking 8g-<1mb
[09:19] <huwenfeng> XB23: ls -lh
[09:20] <hateball> ohletmeinnowgodd⡶ That's odd... hmmm not sure what would cause it. Does the DVD itself play?
[09:20] <ompaul> XB23, you can do ls -lh to get it more humanly readable
[09:20] <potwak> feels my luck run away from me today. :)
[09:20] <mchelen1> MonthOLDpickle, take a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst or copy it to pastebin and post the link
[09:20] <potwak> :|
[09:20] <XB23> ah
[09:20] <XB23> ty
[09:20] <ompaul> XB23, and it is bytes that it is in
[09:21] <sonoblaise> anybody encountered problems wit intrepid while trying to read video DVDs??
[09:21] <ompaul> !dvd | sonoblaise
[09:21] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: yeah it works fine, im playing it on totem
[09:21] <MonthOLDpickle> http://pastebin.com/m91884bb
[09:22] <MonthOLDpickle> mchelen1 http://pastebin.com/m91884bb
[09:22] <private_meta> heya... can anyone tell me how i can set up mysql to start automatically at system boot?
[09:22] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: though i cant use the controls(ff,rw next chapter etc)
[09:23] <ohletmeinnowgodd> ill try brasero
[09:23] <MonthOLDpickle> I see actual copies of the same thign sin the menu.lst
[09:24] <hzl> hello world
[09:24] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: ok its looking like its doing some legitimate ripping now
[09:24] <mchelen1> MonthOLDpickle, those are just different kernel versions, usually the system will keep a couple around in case the new one doesn't work you can pick the last version to load
[09:24] <ohletmeinnowgodd> hateball: maybe its encrypoted?
[09:24] <karooga> BlearyBram: the video chip - silicon integrated systems
[09:24] <histo> Anyone know how I can get my keyboard and touchpad detected by X on my laptop?  If you install xserver-xorg it doesn't detect them when your startx; however, if I install the ubuntu-desktop package it installs something that makes X work with them. I don't want to install ubuntu-desktop and gnome though.
[09:25] <MonthOLDpickle> mchelen1 I am trying to make windows default for time out boot. Instead of linux. I've tried 3 and 4..try 5?
[09:25] <BlearyBram> karooga: not very sure, was ATi SIS?
[09:25] <will__> How would I set up my external USB wifi card to load/mount/whatever automatically after I reboot
[09:25] <will__> I have to unplug and replug it at present, which is a problem
[09:26] <mchelen1> MonthOLDpickle, oh ok you want to change which is loaded by default? install grubeditor and it will let you change those options
[09:26] <pakus> Hiya, I'm trying to mount a "remote desktop server". Has anyone configured one?
[09:26] <xyxxl> MonthOLDpickle, it looks like it would be 6 on your machine.
[09:26] <private_meta> !update-rc.d
[09:27] <private_meta> hmm
[09:27] <MonthOLDpickle> Also guys having display issues
[09:27] <MonthOLDpickle> I have the nvidia drivers
[09:28] <MonthOLDpickle> and I changed it to enable both monitors yet my second even though it says its on 1900X 1200 its not using the full monitor and when stuff pops up there is all blurry
[09:28] <histo> MonthOLDpickle, did you use the hardware manager to install restrcited drivers?
[09:28] <nbeebo> !e17
[09:28] <MonthOLDpickle> histo Yes its activated. I used sudo nvidia-settings too
[09:28] <histo> MonthOLDpickle, well what sort of issues are you having then?
[09:28] <xyxxl> MonthOLDpickle, when you're trying to use 1920x1200 does it show up blurry and shifted to the side?
[09:28] <MonthOLDpickle> histo it even tells me the names of the two monitors..I want it like my windows setup with extended desktop
[09:29] <xyxxl> also, is your monitor HDMI?
[09:29] <MonthOLDpickle> xyxxl Yes
[09:29] <nbeebo> trying to install e17 then this cames up: "E17 DEPENDS: libasound2 (>1.0.16) but 1.0.15-3ubuntu4 is to be installed"
[09:29] <MonthOLDpickle> xyxxl not HDMI
[09:29] <sonoblaise> if I deactivate compiz, will I have to redo my setup if I turn it on again??
[09:29] <MonthOLDpickle> xyxxl but yes its shifted to the side. And blurry
[09:29] <xyxxl> I had the same problem using the NVIDIA drivers
[09:30] <MonthOLDpickle> did you fix it?
[09:30] <xyxxl> Its a problem with the nvidia drivers reading the EDID values from the monitor incorrectly
[09:30] <xyxxl> and no, I never found a fix for it :P
[09:30] <MonthOLDpickle> bah
[09:30] <MonthOLDpickle> I don't liek how it shows on my farther monitor >.>
[09:30] <MonthOLDpickle> brb
[09:30] <histo> MonthOLDpickle, install nvidia-settings package and use that.
[09:31] <xyxxl> if you check the nvidia control applet thing, your monitor might be showing up as a TV... some people have reported success by being able to manually change it to a monitor
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:31] <histo> wtf this mini.iso is taking for ever. Its not even downloading.
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> histo: what method are you using?
[09:32] <histo> ActionParsnip, i'm just trying to install a console based system on a virtual machine its just horribly slow.
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> histo: how are you downloading the iso?
[09:34] <histo> ActionParsnip, the mini.iso is already downlaoded
[09:34] <histo> Anyone know how I can get my keyboard and touchpad detected by X on my laptop?  If you install xserver-xorg it doesn't detect them when your startx; however, if I install the ubuntu-desktop package it installs something that makes X work with them. I don't want to install ubuntu-desktop and gnome though.
[09:34] <will__> Anyone?
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> will__: wassup?
[09:35] <will__> I have an external USB wifi card that I use to connect to my WLAN. I'd like it to automatically be recognised when I boot this machine - but I don't know how
[09:35] <xyxxl> histo, have you tried the xorg.conf that  'X -confgure' generates?
[09:35] <histo> ActionParsnip, looks like it was an issue with the setup of the virtual machine selecting what type of OS was going to be installed.
[09:35] <will__> At the moment I have to unplug and replug it, which involves pulling out my desk and so on ;)
[09:35] <histo> xyxxl, intrepid has no xorg.conf
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> histo: mine does
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> histo: makes my nvidia card work nice
[09:36] <histo> ActionParsnip, its not actually using it though unless you change it.  So it CAN have xorg.conf
[09:37] <outlaw1> can i download and install all mozilla-plugins for the different players that i use or do i just have to choose 1 to use and stick with it ? thanks in advance
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> will__: run lsusb, you will get an identifier
[09:37] <histo> xyxxl, nice
[09:37] <histo> xyxxl, didn't know about this little app. Going to try that one.
[09:37] <will__> ActionParsnip: Ok
[09:38] <histo> xyxxl, I love you .
[09:38] <xyxxl> lol
[09:38] <histo> xyxxl, I've been pulling my hair out over this for some time.
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> outlaw1: i'd just use 1, saves confusion
[09:38] <azfira> dewi
[09:38] <azfira> dewi
[09:38] <histo> matter of fact 8 hours. I new there had to be a way to generate an xorg.conf
[09:38] <azfira> dewi
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> histo: i miss te gutsy xorg config app
[09:39] <afancy> Hi, in Linux, how to caculate the time of executing a command ?
[09:39] <outlaw1> ActionParsnip: ok  , thanks for reply. new to linux and wasnt sure but thought it might cause some conflicts down the road possibly. thanks again
[09:39] <tarzeau> afancy: time command
[09:39]  * pakus is away: Gone away for now.
[09:39] <histo> ActionParsnip, well X -configure makes a nice one.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> histo: i just use one from my backup
[09:40] <histo> Yeah this mini.iso just stops when downloading packages at random times.
[09:40] <will__> ActionParsnip: What do I do with the id?
[09:40] <afancy> tarzeau: I got three output: real    0m0.008s user    0m0.004s
[09:41] <afancy> tarzeau: which one
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> will__: websearch my friend, websearch
[09:41] <afancy> tarzeau: another is sys
[09:41] <afancy> tarzeau: sys     0m0.004s
[09:41] <afancy> tarzeau: which one should i select?
[09:41] <will__> ActionParsnip: USB devices are *supposed* to be recognised when Linux boots?
[09:42] <tarzeau> afancy: which one do you want?
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> will__: well yeah its recognised, you may not have the right driver for it though
[09:42] <tarzeau> afancy: can you read what the meaning of them is?
[09:42] <will__> ActionParsnip: Oh! It connects fine - I'm using it right now
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> will__: just like in windows, your system will see the device but have no idea how to use it until you install drivers
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> will__: can you clarify your issue then please
[09:43] <afancy> tarzeau: I just want the total executing time
[09:43] <azfira> dewi
[09:43] <will__> My USB wifi device, which works perfectly, is not recognised after I reboot *until* I unplug it and plug it back in
[09:43] <tarzeau> afancy: then it's called total?
[09:44] <tarzeau> afancy: err real
[09:44] <tarzeau> afancy: well depends on the system and shell probably
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> will__: hmm, weird
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> will__: let me websearch
[09:45] <Abracadabra> Hi
[09:45] <azfira> dewi
[09:45] <azfira> jamela
[09:45] <Abracadabra> how can I change the language keyb from the CLI
[09:45] <Abracadabra> ?
[09:45] <azfira> dewi
[09:45] <azfira> gdfghfgh
[09:46] <XB23> how many megabits are in a gigabyte?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> will__: whats the output of: lsmod | grep -i usb
[09:46] <Hikefu> 1000
[09:46] <Abracadabra> 1024
[09:46] <Hikefu> oops
[09:47] <Hikefu> Sorry
[09:47] <ActionParsnip><PHONE_NUMBER>
[09:47] <XB23> so is 6.50MBPS a good speed to download at?
[09:47] <arkygeek> hi.  kubuntu 8.1 fresh install, did a few updates, on reboot, the login window won't appear (just background).  from tty1, top shows that kdm_greet is using 100% of CPU ...  any suggestions?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> XB23: oh yes :D
[09:47] <XB23> kk cool
[09:47] <will__> ActionParsnip: I appreciate the help. I've been summoned to bed - will get back to this later
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> XB23: wait, mega bits in a gig
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> XB23: http://www.unitconversion.org/data-storage/megabits-to-gigabytes-conversion.html
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> will__: np man
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> will__: little note
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> will__: you could try remodprobing those modules once you get logged in
[09:48] <will__> ActionParsnip: pastie.org/334744
[09:49] <will__> ActionParsnip: Manually, or through init.d?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> will__: lil script
[09:50] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me any good tools that can be eaily used to trim videos
[09:50] <will__> ActionParsnip: I can work out the script myself. Where would be the best place to put it so it runs on boot?
[09:51] <histo> anyone having issues with the archives right now?
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> will__: i meant put the script in your gnome startup lot
[09:52] <will__> ActionParsnip: Where are those stored?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> !startup
[09:52] <anonypus> How come the ubuntu zlib has t he gzopen64 symbol, but the vanilla zlib does not? This seems odd to me, as the vanilla libxml2 want this symbol. Maybe I'm missing something in the build process of one of the libs? (p.s. I can't accept linking with the native zlib of ubuntu(
[09:52] <azfira> gfdhg
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> will__: just put the script someplace (like ~/) and add it to startup ;)
[09:53] <will__> ActionParsnip: Ok. How would I make my script run as root?
[09:53] <ardchoille> ~/bin is good for that
[09:53] <adv> anyone can help me with openarena?
[09:53] <will__> Does Gnome run them as root automatically, or do I need to sudo somehow?
[09:53] <adv> i am on a lan and i create a server but the other pc doesnt find any servers under local ...
[09:53] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me any good tools that can be eaily used to trim videos
[09:53] <will__> !boot
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> will__: i'd put it in /usr/bin
[09:54] <adv> does ubuntu have firewall on by default?
[09:54] <will__> ActionParsnip: /usr/bin/initwifi or somesuch and it'll run at login as root?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | adv
[09:55] <vq> hai
[09:55] <ardchoille> adv: it has one but it's empty
[09:55] <Juliada> adv: no, but you can check iptables
[09:55] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me any good tools that can be eaily used to trim videos
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> will__: yeah that should do it, i'd put sudo in the script
[09:55] <will__> ActionParsnip: Is there someone I can put it that means it'll get fired before Gnome starts? I'd like to have it run even if boot into a CLI
[09:55] <will__> Somewhere
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Juliada: it has iptables but its not configured but one is installed
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> will__: hmm, not sure there
[09:56] <crekarasu> how can i uninstall openssh-server ?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> will__: you could always manually fire it
[09:56] <will__> ActionParsnip: I'll look it up tomorrow. Thank you very much
[09:56] <will__> ActionParsnip: I could. Kind of annoying, though
[09:56] <Juliada> ActionParsnip: I just wabted to say that ))
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> crekarasu: sudo apt-get --purge remove openssh-server
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> will__: yeah true, look into how you can get it to fire
[09:57] <Bleupomme> I have a very curious situation with ubuntu server and a DELL server. I have connection problems to the server. When I type ifconfig on the console it displays a MAC address of the type aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:d6. but when I type arp -a on a client it displays a mac address of type aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:d3 for the IP of the server. Could anyone tell me what is going on?
[09:58] <adv> can anyone recommend some games?
[09:59] <ardchoille> !games
[09:59] <nbeebo> play windows game imo lol
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> adv: frets on fire, doom 3, urban terror,
[09:59] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me any good tools that can be eaily used to trim videos
[09:59] <xyxxl> tux racer!
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> adv: tux racing
[09:59] <xyxxl> *cough*
[09:59] <Juliada> adv: you can play many games under wine
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> adv: if you websearch for loki installer you can find games that have a special installer so they run native
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> adv: ID software kicked out one for doom3, fun :D
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> adv: games run sweet in linux
[10:02] <chilli0> hi all
[10:03] <chilli0> i went to the Vitual box website and downlaod it for ubuntu 8.10,
[10:03] <chilli0> what do i do now?
[10:05] <DarkKnight> hey can anyone tell me any good tools that can be eaily used to trim videos
[10:05] <adv> ActionParsnip: is it free?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> adv: is what free?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: avidemux is one option
[10:06] <adv> ActionParsnip: doom3
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> adv: the installing app is, the game isnt
[10:06] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip; is it easy to use
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: not used it but i know of it
[10:06] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip; i c....any idea how to use it
[10:07] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip; how about kino
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: im sure theres guides around the place
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: its not something i do, but kino is another option
[10:08] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip; okk
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> DarkKnight: maybe someone else uses it, or try here later
[10:08] <DarkKnight> ActionParsnip; thankq
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> wb chilli0
[10:09] <chilli0> thanks
[10:09] <chilli0> how do i open vitual box in 8.10?
[10:09] <chilli0> its not in tools
[10:09] <joaopinto> chilli0, did you install it ?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: virtualbox is the command in terminal
[10:10] <DIFH-iceroot> chilli0: open the terminal and type Virt and then tab
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: make sure you are a member of vboxusers
[10:10] <chilli0> ActionParsnip:  why?
[10:10] <Jerusalem420> for about the last week, my computer has been freezing up and requiring reboot. i'm running gutsy. i was wondering if there are known issues or if its just something that's happened to my computer.
[10:10] <joaopinto> virtualbox does provide a menu action
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: or vbox won't run
[10:10] <chilli0> ok this is what i have done
[10:10] <rv> salut
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> joaopinto: well if he cant find it, cli will run it :)
[10:10] <chilli0> i installed vbox via  sudo apt-get install virtualbox-2.0
[10:10] <chilli0>  , now what should i do now?
[10:11] <chilli0> when i did virt i got
[10:11] <chilli0> chilli@Prodigy:~$ Virt
[10:11] <chilli0> bash: Virt: command not found
[10:11] <Jerusalem420> anyone?
[10:11] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip, sure, but the icon is on system tools, if he can't find it, the app is not installed :)
[10:11] <DIFH-iceroot> chilli0: tab
[10:11] <chilli0> DIFH-iceroot:  ok
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: sudo adduser <your user name> vboxusers
[10:12] <Jerusalem420> ok. i'll try again another time. peace all
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> joaopinto: well he said he's installed it with apt-get so it must be in
[10:12] <chilli0> thanks DIFH-iceroot
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: you can tab complete commands and file names in linux/bsd just like names in here
[10:12] <chilli0> cool
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: also handles spaces in filenames too :D
[10:13] <joaopinto> chilli0, what happens when you run "VirtualBox" on the terminal ?
[10:15] <chilli0> i got it working all
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: sweet
[10:15] <adv> is there a game like street fighter?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> chilli0: dont forget to set the correct OS when you create the box so you get the right guest additions
[10:15] <ikonia> adv not that I'm aware of
[10:15] <ikonia> adv: if you want games, a console or windows is a better option
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> adv: you could emulate if you own the original cartridge
[10:16] <chilli0> i added it
[10:16] <adv> no i want smth like it but more modern
[10:16] <adv> all i can find is FPS
[10:16] <ikonia> adv: games are limited on linux
[10:16] <joaopinto> adv, fighting games are not very popular on linux
[10:17] <DIFH-iceroot> ikonia: games like street fighter are limited on windows too
[10:17] <adv> hm whatever else except fps
[10:17] <adv> is there?
[10:17] <adv> any
[10:17] <ikonia> DIFH-iceroot I didn't say they wheren't I suggested a console or windows for "games"
[10:17] <joaopinto> adv, yes, a lot, RPG, Logic, etc
[10:17] <joaopinto> adv, just check the games section on the package manager
[10:17] <DIFH-iceroot> !games | adv
[10:18] <adv> that is fun to play on LAN with friends?
[10:18] <joaopinto> adv, Enemy Territory
[10:18] <DIFH-iceroot> adv: left4dead
[10:18] <joaopinto> DIFH-iceroot, that's a linux game ?
[10:18] <DIFH-iceroot> joaopinto: wine runs it fine
[10:18] <joaopinto> DIFH-iceroot, ah :P
[10:21] <joaopinto> adv, there are also some nice worms clones, like hedgewars and wormux, I don't know about their lan support
[10:24] <Paddy_EIRE> joachimATjku, adv yeah those have lan support
[10:25] <Paddy_EIRE> adv, what sort of spec have you got?
[10:27] <woodoo> hello
[10:27] <adv> Paddy_EIRE: what do you mean?
[10:27] <chanux_> woodoo, hello
[10:27] <Paddy_EIRE> adv, hardware specs
[10:27] <adv> Paddy_EIRE: pentium3 512ram
[10:28] <g33k_gir1> i can't get firefox to launch from the applications menu -- I have to launch it from a terminal. any ideas?
[10:28] <Paddy_EIRE> adv, some of these are excellent fun with a couple of friends in a lan :) http://www.playdeb.net/
[10:29] <woodoo> you run it in terminal as root?
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> adv, also this is becoming very popular lately http://www.playonlinux.com/en/
[10:29] <adv> Paddy_EIRE: thank you!
[10:29] <Paddy_EIRE> sure no probs :)
[10:29] <chanux_> g33k_gir1, can you get from Run application box? Alt-E2?
[10:30] <g33k_gir1> chanux_:  yes
[10:30] <chanux_> g33k_gir1, sorry, Alt-F2 and type in firefox.
[10:31] <g33k_gir1> chanux_:  yeah, I figured thats what you meant :) yes it works that waty
[10:31] <holst> hi! I have a problem with if-up.d/* scripts not being executed
[10:31] <holst> under any circumstances
[10:31] <joaopinto> it should work from the menu, it's executed the same way
[10:31] <ikonia> holst what makes you think they are not
[10:31] <holst> and I *NEED* this working
[10:31] <holst> ikonia: I am 100% sure they are not
[10:31] <ikonia> holst why ?
[10:31] <holst> because one of my scripts should build openafs.ko
[10:32] <chanux_> maybe the link is broken
[10:32] <holst> and it doesnt
[10:32] <woodoo> how to install QIP2005 with wine?
[10:32] <ikonia> holst those scripts don't build any of those files
[10:32] <cowbud> woodoo: check the wine site
[10:32] <ikonia> holst I ask again, how do you know they are not being executed
[10:32] <Paddy_EIRE> !wine | woodoo
[10:32] <cowbud> they probably have good instructions
[10:32] <holst> ikonia: because If I throw out this damn NetworkManager it works
[10:32] <woodoo> it's some error while installing
[10:32] <cowbud> I wish there was a !doitprivate | Paddy
[10:32] <cowbud> does the channel really need to see that spam all the time?
[10:33] <ikonia> holst that doesn't prove they are not being executed
[10:33] <g33k_gir1> i don't know if this helps -- but it didn't work in KDE either, and since synaptic/adept updated firefox to 3.0, I don't have the little FF icon in the menu either (just the blank generic program icon)
[10:33] <Paddy_EIRE> cowbud, depends on your irc client
[10:33] <Paddy_EIRE> I dont see it here
[10:33] <cowbud> Paddy_EIRE: uhh if you say something in the channel I really hope my irc client shows me it
[10:33] <holst> ikonia: OK so instead of being academic about it - how do we fix this problem?
[10:33] <ikonia> holst well, I want to understand why your certain they are not being executed
[10:33] <Paddy_EIRE> cowbud, heh.. why is that?
[10:33] <ikonia> holst: as that may not be the problem
[10:33] <joaopinto> g33k_gir1, your firefox launcher must be broken, you are not expected to have a generic, but the default one with the firefox icon
[10:34] <holst> ikonia: I cannot observe that they are being executed - so I belive that they are not being executed
[10:34] <cowbud> Paddy_EIRE: cause if you don't wnat everyone to see that is what privmsg is for
[10:34] <chanux_> g33k_gir1, g33k_gir1 can you het Fx from that generic Icon?
[10:34] <cowbud> Paddy_EIRE: how do you have xchat configured to not show you that? Through an extra script?
[10:34] <ikonia> holst stick in a error debug line, like touch /var/tmp/_it_worked and test it ?
[10:34] <Paddy_EIRE> cowbud, why are you telling me about pm's
[10:34] <bimberi> !hi > cowbud
[10:34] <joaopinto> g33k_gir1, check that you have an /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop file
[10:34] <bimberi> cowbud: is that what you mean?
[10:34] <cowbud> bimberi: yep
[10:34] <cowbud> way better
[10:35] <g33k_gir1> chanux_: sorry, what?
[10:35] <cowbud> except the fact that ubottu bot says please see my private message
[10:35] <cowbud> to everyone..
[10:35] <g33k_gir1> joaopinto: yes, I have a firefox.desktop
[10:35] <cowbud> ikonia: btw good call on the debug line I was waiting for that suggestion
[10:36] <bimberi> cowbud: it used to not do so, but that confused a lot of people too
[10:36] <cowbud> bimberi: yeah I mean I can kinda see it, but it is also a bit unfortunate
[10:36] <ikonia> cowbud where are the scripts kept, I can't see them on my ubuntu box
[10:36] <joaopinto> and you don't get the regular icon on the Internet menu section ?
[10:36] <cowbud> ikonia: /etc/network
[10:36] <ikonia> cowbud: oops, not you, sorry, I meant that for holst
[10:36] <mars__> hi
[10:36] <ikonia> cowbud ahh, I'd not put the - make in the fine
[10:36] <chanux_> g33k_gir1,can you fet Firefox from that generic Icon you mentioned before?
[10:36] <ikonia> din
[10:36] <ikonia> find
[10:37] <cowbud> yeah gotcha :)
[10:37] <mars__> i use ubuntu on a macbook (old white one -- not macbook pro). sometimes i have issues with the numblock.
[10:38] <cowbud> does ubuntu even do ppc anymore?
[10:38] <ikonia> community support
[10:38] <mars__> when i use a keyboard everything works as expected, but if i forget to turn off the numblock and use my laptop in the train (no keyboard) i cannot type.
[10:38] <cowbud> see and what did I do
[10:38] <mars__> this is really annoying. anyone has a hint for me?
[10:38] <cowbud>  .msg ubottu ppc :)
[10:38] <cowbud> perfect
[10:38] <g33k_gir1> chanux_: no, thats the item in the application menu -- I get a little window saying "starting firefox web browser" and then it quietly disappears
[10:39] <mars__> cowbud: this is no ppc ;) its intel thus x386
[10:39] <cowbud> mars__: im sure there is a command line to shut off numlock jus tset a cronjob for that :)
[10:39] <cowbud> mars__: uh  if you have an old mac computer it is probably ppc ;)
[10:39] <napnap> join #samba
[10:39] <napnap> huhu
[10:39] <napnap> so..bye
[10:39] <mars__> no there is a new seris which is silver ;)
[10:40] <mars__> cowbud: its just 1 year old ;)
[10:40] <cowbud> huh interestnig
[10:40] <cowbud> well at any rate my comment still stands :) set a cronjob :)
[10:40] <ikonia> mars__ the silver ones are macbook pro's
[10:40] <mars__> cowbud: i guess that will work
[10:40] <ikonia> mars__: there are white/black intel ones, and white ppc ones also
[10:40] <Paddy_EIRE> mars__, normally on PC anyway you can set the numlock key either on or off at boot time in the bios
[10:40] <mars__> ikonia: no... please consult www.apple.com ;)
[10:41] <ikonia> mars__ he said it was an "old" one
[10:41] <ikonia> mars__: the new ones on that site are less then 4 months old
[10:41] <holst> oh,
[10:41] <kelen> BYE
[10:41] <holst> so NetworkManager defines ADDRFAM as NetworkManger_
[10:41] <holst> oh, oh!
[10:41] <mars__> ikonia: yes i know i just wanted to point out i have an old (normal) macbook which is white. the new ones are silver
[10:41] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, if its a year old then it certainly aint PPC
[10:42] <holst> i didnt know that this was a IP protocol
[10:42] <mars__> whatever i got the solution ;)
[10:42] <holst> my misstake
[10:42] <ikonia> Paddy_EIRE I didn't say it was a ppc, I said there are intel and ppm versions,
[10:42] <holst> fucking retartded shit this pockemon crap...
[10:43] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, ppm?
[10:43] <ikonia> Paddy_EIRE: ppc sorry
[10:43] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, ah.. colour wise
[10:44] <mars__> for the log: there is a great package numlockx which can deactivate the numlockstatus with: numlockx off
[10:44] <mars__> ;)
[10:47] <cowbud> there ya go
[10:47] <jtag> I'm looking for a diary program, and It's very nice if it can encode my texts. anybody know something?
[10:47] <tensop-> Anyone here knowledgable with pam_mount?
[10:47] <tensop-> getting this issue - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6335879&postcount=2
[10:47] <Paddy_EIRE> jtag, a text editor and some encryption... gedit has a plugin for that as well
[10:48] <chanux_> g33k_gir1, but still you can get it from CLI? weird.
[10:48] <tensop-> Basicly, trying to mount an SMB share via pam_mount on logon, pam spams out saying "mount: special device stdhome does not exist" when running pam
[10:49] <g33k_gir1> chanux_: i found the problem
[10:49] <DJ_HaMsTa> im trying to patch mah wireless driver, everything fine untill i tried the make command, i get 2 errors
[10:49] <DJ_HaMsTa> make: Entering an unknown directory
[10:49] <DJ_HaMsTa> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.24-22-server/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[10:50] <ikonia> DJ_HaMsTa your kernel is not called 2.6.24-22-server
[10:50] <chanux_> g33k_gir1, why don't you share? :D
[10:50] <DJ_HaMsTa> yes it is
[10:50] <foloex> hello
[10:50] <Paddy_EIRE> jtag, zim desktop wiki is very nice too... although I know its not specifically what you are looking for and I am unsure about encryption with zim
[10:50] <g33k_gir1> chanux_: the menu command had ksystray (or something) in front of the path to FF. I just edited it to read /usr/bin/firefox and now it works, and I have the icon too. weird though, I tried that in KDE and it didn't work. glad I made the switch back to gnome
[10:51] <foloex> does someone know how to manually mount a usb device by specifying its idproduct and idvendor ?
[10:51] <jtag> Paddy_EIRE: zim is nice, but has no encryption.
[10:51] <balle_> i need a temporary internet connection for my non-wireless labtop, can i just connect it through an ethernet cable to another wireless labtop?
[10:51] <joaopinto> foloex, you mount devices based on their /dev/ naming, not on the ipdroducts/vendores
[10:51] <Paddy_EIRE> jtag, what about encrypting the folder where Zim stored the files?
[10:52] <Paddy_EIRE> *stores
[10:52] <balle_> i need a temporary internet connection for my non-wireless labtop, can i just connect it through an ethernet cable another, wireless labtop?
[10:52] <joaopinto> foloex, those id products/vendores are used by the kernel/drivers instead
[10:52] <cowbud> he migh tmean uuid ;)
[10:52] <cowbud> !uuid
[10:52] <cowbud> WHAT
[10:52] <cowbud> powa!
[10:52] <Paddy_EIRE> !ics | balle_
[10:52] <chanux_> g33k_gir1, sounds like you have been using KDE & then installed Gnome, then there may be some clashes :)
[10:52] <ikonia> balle_ no, you'll need a cross-overcable, and some for of connection sharing or proxy on the laptop
[10:52] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, cross over cable is not required
[10:52] <cowbud> ikonia: you mean like NAT/ipforwarding?
[10:53] <balle_> ikonia: thx
[10:53] <cowbud> simple as two shakes
[10:53] <balle_> Paddy: great thx i'll check it out
[10:53] <ikonia> Paddy_EIRE: why doesn't he need a cross over ?
[10:53] <ikonia> cowbud: that would work fine
[10:53] <chanux_> g33k_gir1, I'm a KDE fan using gnome for now. lazy g33ks ;)
[10:53] <DJones> Is anybody aware of a file converter which can convert open e-books (.opf filetype) into other formats
[10:53] <\slash> hey guys whats a good dvd burning application ?
[10:53] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, auto switching has been around for quite a number of years now... even the 360 does it
[10:53] <joaopinto> !burning | \slash
[10:53] <ikonia> Paddy_EIRE my new laptop doesn't do it
[10:54] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, and considering I have not required one to do the same thing
[10:54] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, are you certain
[10:54] <\slash> im on gnome
[10:54] <ikonia> Paddy_EIRE: so laptop to lapt top direct connection your saying is picked up by auto switching
[10:54] <ikonia> Paddy_EIRE: %105
[10:54] <\slash> which do u guys recommend?
[10:54] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, that is kinda like  standard now
[10:54] <ikonia> Paddy_EIRE: laptop and desktop couldn't do it come to think of it, not tried it with any other kit
[10:54] <luddite> how do i turn samba on for file sharing in gnome/8.10?
[10:55] <chanux_> \slash, I personally like k3b, I've used brasero & it's good to go too.
[10:55] <Paddy_EIRE> ikonia, ah... well thats odd...  my desktop and laptop both do it :/
[10:55] <Paddy_EIRE> luddite, right click the directory you are looking to share and select share
[10:55] <\slash> chanux im on gnome does that affect it?
[10:56] <Paddy_EIRE> luddite, "sharing options" rather
[10:56] <chanux_> \slash, do you any other KDE s/w now?
[10:56] <DJones> \slash: I prefer k3b and use gnome, I don't have any problems with it
[10:56] <chanux_> \slash, do you use any other KDE s/w now?
[10:56] <\slash> no
[10:56] <\slash> i doubt it
[10:56] <g33k_gir1> chanux_: well, I absolutely couldn't stand KDE 4, and then I started having weird crashing issues (which I blamed on KDE, turns out it was faulty RAM), so I followed the instructions provided by !puregnome
[10:57] <lodder> I installed freenx but after connecting a few times I get this error: Loop: PANIC! Call to bind failed for TCP port 5000. Error is 98 'Address already in use'. <-- how could this be solved?
[10:57] <cowbud> lodder: was it already running?
[10:57] <luddite> Paddy_EIRE - thanks - i did that- it says "'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name "Everyone" to a SID. The connection was refused. Maybe smbd is not running."
[10:57] <cowbud> ps auxww | grep <some process like nx>
[10:57] <lodder> cowbud: yes it's running
[10:58] <cowbud> lodder: are you connecting locally to a port that is exporting your local X?
[10:58] <lodder> cowbud: any more ideas
[10:58] <tarelerulz> What is the easyest way to share files between to ubuntu computers ?  I have router and they are connect ,but samba never seems to work.
[10:58] <lodder> cowbud: how do you mean i have installed it and then use the client
[10:58] <cowbud> lodder: it sounds like you are trying to connect to it within the session from that error
[10:58] <lodder> the box i'm connecting to is a xen domU without screen
[10:59] <joaopinto> tarelerulz, ftp/sftp/http
[10:59] <cowbud> sftp baby
[10:59] <lodder> well the error I get is when I connect
[10:59] <bimberi> !info unison | tarelerulz
[10:59] <joaopinto> samba is for interoperability with windows
[10:59] <cowbud> bimberi: isn't that just a gloried rsync?
[10:59] <cowbud> +f
[11:00] <cowbud> joakim-work: or mac or anything that uses samba..
[11:00] <bimberi> cowbud: yes, but handles two-way sync quite nicely
[11:00] <cowbud> joaopinto ^^
[11:00] <cowbud> bimberi: hrmm
[11:00] <hanyou> does anyone have time for a total ubuntu noob?
[11:00] <cowbud> bimberi: makes me think of delta copy god what a nightmare to setup
[11:01] <tarelerulz> Samba was good when I had windows ,but never seem to config it right.   The share tab  seem to make it easy ,but it never works.  What do you all use.
[11:01] <joaopinto> !anyone | hanyou
[11:01] <cowbud> tarelerulz: it works great here..but if I don't have windows scp is a good alternative
[11:01] <mib_iy9oz3> hello
[11:02] <joaopinto> tarelerulz, do you want do to authenticated sharing or anonymous sharing ?
[11:02] <hanyou> how can i accest yast?
[11:02] <mib_iy9oz3> someone know where ubuntu log all boot messages?
[11:02] <mib_iy9oz3> example:
[11:02] <cowbud> hanyou: yast is for suse
[11:02] <mib_iy9oz3> * running local boot scripts [ok]
[11:02] <mib_iy9oz3> ecc..
[11:02] <cowbud> mib_iy9oz3: /var/log/*
[11:02] <joaopinto> hanyou, yast is a suse tool, there is no yast on ubuntu
[11:02] <Paddy_EIRE> lodder, check out these results http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=52878017
[11:02] <mib_iy9oz3> cowbud: what file ?
[11:02] <cowbud> mib_iy9oz3: use grep
[11:02] <mib_iy9oz3> cowbud: i dont found it.
[11:02] <mib_iy9oz3> ·........
[11:02] <cowbud> mib_iy9oz3: hwat are you trying to find out?
[11:02] <joaopinto> hanyou, most settings on ubuntu are available from the System menu
[11:02] <hanyou> then how do i install vga drivers on ubuntu..or rather how do i install anything on ubuntu?
[11:03] <goldmetal> is
[11:03] <mib_iy9oz3> cowbud: i'd like know where ubuntu save boot log.
[11:03] <mib_iy9oz3> same
[11:03] <mib_iy9oz3> * Staring periodic command sheduler crond [ok] ecc
[11:03] <joaopinto> hanyou, Applications , Add/Remove
[11:03] <tarelerulz> joaopinto , anonymous sharing  like I did with windows.  Just click on share fold and see the files copy them edit so on .   It is just me getting at the files
[11:03] <Paddy_EIRE> hanyou, you should research things a little more before coming in here for education.. this is a support channel
[11:03] <cowbud> mib_iy9oz3: define boot log, like sysinit/upstart starting I don't htink it logs that
[11:03] <joaopinto> not for the vga drivers, which are installed by default
[11:03] <cowbud> mib_iy9oz3: you have daemon.log which shows daemons starting which is mostly what  upkeep does
[11:03] <cowbud> but other than that..
[11:03] <kidbuntu> having a problem.. i'm unable to mount my other harddisk but i can see them
[11:04] <cowbud> upkeep/upstart
[11:04] <joaopinto> tarelerulz, you can use anonymous ftp for that
[11:04] <hanyou> i got this notification telling me that i need to install vga drivers
[11:04] <Paddy_EIRE> !graphics | hanyou
[11:04] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[11:04] <cowbud> boomer
[11:04] <pvh_sa> does anyone know of a "visual patch" utility? i.e. i've got a patch, and i'd like to see some illustration of what is going to be patched by this patch....
[11:04] <hanyou> i can select it from a list, press activate and nothing seems to be happening
[11:04] <cowbud> pvh_sa: meld baby
[11:05] <cowbud> it's awesome
[11:05] <Paddy_EIRE> hanyou, which card do you have?
[11:05] <cowbud> !meld
[11:05] <hanyou> 9600gt
[11:05] <cowbud> for the birds you ubottu
[11:05] <Paddy_EIRE> hanyou, just a moment
[11:05] <cowbud> pvh_sa: apt-cache show meld
[11:06] <mib_iy9oz3> so ?
[11:06] <cowbud> mib_iy9oz3: you still have yet to really define what you want to know...I told you daemon.log but as far as "starting local scripts OK" ubuntu doesn't log that
[11:06] <Paddy_EIRE> !nvidia | hanyou
[11:06] <cowbud> it is typically better if you ask what you want instead of try to ask the method that you are attempting to do what you want
[11:06] <lodder> thx Paddy_EIRE
[11:06] <tarelerulz>  joaopinto, here is what I want to do ,  play movie on my other computer ,  copy the files over if I need to , maybe delete files and put files over.  When  samba works it did all that fine,but for some reason It don't plus samba has like 90 billion options .
[11:06] <Paddy_EIRE> lodder, sure thing
[11:07] <lodder> Paddy_EIRE: but what has it to do with freenx
[11:07] <lodder> And how do you check what program is using a port
[11:08] <joaopinto> tarelerulz, well, maybe you should keep with samba :P
[11:09] <cowbud> lodder: lsof -Pni
[11:09] <bimberi> lodder: sudo netstat -plunt
[11:09] <joaopinto> lodder, sudo fuser -n tcp 80
[11:09] <kidbuntu> help please can't mount IDE disk
[11:09] <joaopinto> 80 was the port on my example, the returned output is the pid
[11:09] <cowbud> or netstat of course :)
[11:10]  * bimberi finds 'plunt' easy to remember :)
[11:10] <tarelerulz>  joaopinto, I would ,but it never seem to work . just thought there must be more easy way.   it is for windows sharing ,but never read anything about doing just that with it .
[11:10] <jschall> where is the intrepid wallpaper stored?
[11:10] <joaopinto> tarelerulz, samba is easy, once you understand it :P
[11:10] <cowbud> bimberi: haha exactly what I just noted :) I learned Pni a long time ago and always wanted to remember netstats equiv
[11:10] <tensop-> getting this issue - http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6335879&postcount=2 Basicly, trying to mount an SMB share via pam_mount on logon, pam spams out saying "mount: special device stdhome does not exist" when running pam
[11:11] <kidbuntu> help please can't mount IDE disk
[11:11] <bimberi> jschall: /usr/share/backgrounds
[11:11] <cowbud> kidbuntu: what command are you trying?
[11:12] <kidbuntu> cowbud: before i can mount it.. then suddenly i cant anymore
[11:12] <mountaindew> Hi all, I have been using Ubuntu 8.10 and vlc to watch mp4 movies with no problem, but lately I have been having problem, vlc seems to show only blue screen and sound but nothing else, same case with totem player, the mp4 file seems to play ok on xp.
[11:12] <cowbud> kidbuntu: im guessing vfat, does dmesg say something about it not being removed cleanly?
[11:12] <kidbuntu> cowbud: no message at all.
[11:12] <ikonia> mountaindew sounds like you've not got the right codecs on linux
[11:13] <kidbuntu> cowbud: didnt do anything.. all of my other disk on my computer i can't open it with ubuntu
[11:13] <mountaindew> totem asked me to install the codecs (2 choices) and I installed both.
[11:13] <cowbud> kidbuntu: its a fat32 drive right?
[11:13] <ikonia> mountaindew maybe they are not compatible, what was the movies encoded with
[11:13] <Paddy_EIRE> mountaindew, do you have compiz (desktop effects) enabled?
[11:13] <cowbud> kidbuntu: and you didn't answer my first question..
[11:13] <kidbuntu> cowbud: yes
[11:14] <cowbud> kidbuntu: how are you trying to mount it
[11:14] <Jaguar48h> My ubunto doesn't identify one of my partitions(ntfs) on startup, what can i do ?
[11:14] <mountaindew> I think I have compiz, because I didn't change anything and I think it is enabled by default
[11:14] <Paddy_EIRE> !ntfs | Jaguar48h
[11:14] <kidbuntu> cowbud: double clicking or choosing mount on right clicks
[11:14] <cowbud> !fstab
[11:14] <cowbud> kidbuntu: and what does it say?
[11:14] <tarelerulz>  joaopinto,  say one  wanted to share ntfs partition or maybe the whole hard drive it is on .  I have try that a lot never seem to work that easy like add fold in home .   Never seen any thing talk about how to do that.
[11:14] <pl4nkton> hai
[11:15] <mountaindew> how do I disable compiz?
[11:15] <kidbuntu> cowbud: nothing at all
[11:15] <kidbuntu> cowbud: dont know how to mount it by terminal
[11:15] <cowbud> kidbuntu: this is a usb drive or an IDE connected drive?
[11:15] <kidbuntu> cowbud: IDE
[11:15] <cowbud> kidbuntu: well is it a partition on your same root drive?
[11:15] <Paddy_EIRE> mountaindew, you may need to change the video output in your movie player if you are using effects
[11:15] <cowbud> or do you not know?
[11:15] <kidbuntu> cowbud: connected and functioning... seperate hard drives
[11:16] <joaopinto> tarelerulz, you just need to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:16] <cowbud> kidbuntu: try sude fdisk -l | grep -i fat
[11:16] <cowbud> kidbuntu: try sudo fdisk -l | grep -i fat
[11:16] <mountaindew> let me try
[11:17] <kidbuntu> cowbud: here are the results
[11:17] <kidbuntu> cowbud: /dev/sdc1   *           1        9729    78148161    b  W95 FAT32
[11:17] <kidbuntu> /dev/sdi1               1        1212     7714816    b  W95 FAT32
[11:17] <PixelBlur> Anyone know of a good daemon manager with a good gui?
[11:18] <cowbud> kidbuntu: alright so I assume if you do a 'df' (without ' ' )  you'll see one of those in that list?
[11:18] <tarelerulz> joaopinto,  like  I do understand some ,but  what options you need for  share you don't want to  log into
[11:18] <cowbud> kidbuntu: and the other is the one you want to mount..
[11:18] <kidbuntu> cowbud: both actually
[11:18] <cowbud> kidbuntu: alright and they have names in nautilus, the application where you are right clicking and saying mount..
[11:19] <kidbuntu> cowbud: yes
[11:19] <cowbud> kidbuntu: so what are the names? one is your main windows drive and another is probably a download drive/extra storage drive
[11:20] <kidbuntu> cowbud: "IDE STORAGE" then the other is "Media files"
[11:20] <cowbud> kidbuntu: alright try this pmount /dev/sdc1 /media/IDE\ STORAGE
[11:21] <koopee> I updated to intrepid yesterday. Should the hdaps work in the 8.10 release?
[11:21] <koopee> I have IBM X40 and i keep getting "FATAL: Error inserting hdaps (/lib/modules/2.6.27-9-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/hdaps.ko): No such device or address"
[11:21] <koopee> if I try to modprobe hdaps
[11:22] <kidbuntu> cowbud: all it did was show some help options
[11:22] <mountaindew> apparently this time round it was playing fine, and I made it full screen and still fine, but then I made it into window again and no display, fullscreen again and the movie shows for a split second and then blank again.
[11:22] <cowbud> kidbuntu: message me it..
[11:23] <kidbuntu> cowbud: it has several results. like...  option "-r, -w, -s"" and lots of stuff that i'm not allowed to paste such to many results here
[11:23] <cowbud> kidbuntu: join #kidbuntu
[11:28] <\slash> !torrent
[11:29] <\slash> aw no bitlord ? :(
[11:30] <adv> how can i specify where tar spits the contents?
[11:30] <Tyrath> is there anyway to stop it changing ~ to /home/<user> when you click tab in bash ?
[11:31] <Tyrath> i looked throughout the .bash files but couldn't find the line that said it
[11:31] <digitalvectorz> heya.  anyone know how to read memory pages in regards to kernal mm?
[11:32] <gt_> he
[11:33] <kop> ?
[11:33] <gt_> !_!
[11:34] <Tyrath> digitalvectorz: I don't know exactly what you're asking. But if you want to read files in shell you can use cat
[11:34] <Tyrath> digitalvectorz: personally I like to pipe cat files into less as it allows me to scroll: ie, cat <filename> | less
[11:34] <digitalvectorz> Tyrath: actually, i want to read all the files currently in memory
[11:34] <Tyrath> digitalvectorz: ps ?
[11:35] <Tyrath> digitalvectorz: or aux
[11:35] <digitalvectorz> Tyrath: not processes
[11:35] <Tyrath> sigterm: or ax
[11:35] <bjm> hello à touts le monde j'ai un petit problème avec ma webcam "Bus 005 Device 002: ID 0c45:627b Microdia" quelqu'un peut il maider!!! merci
[11:35] <digitalvectorz> Tyrath: I want to read the raw data in memory
[11:35] <Tyrath> !fr | bjm
[11:35] <kop> Can anyone point me to a working Xorg.conf for  intrepid/matrox-g450 dual head extended desktop ?
[11:35] <bjm> ok
[11:38] <Tyrath> kop: /etc/X11/xorg.conf - that's the only xorg.conf file I know
[11:38] <pvh_sa> digitalvectorz, you mean like the stuff in /dev/kmem ?
[11:38] <Tyrath> kop: the graphics drivers are dependant on the xorg.conf file, not the other way around
[11:39] <\slash> !dvdripper
[11:39] <oreomike> digitalvectorz: I think that the Kernel won't allow you to read all memory.  That'd be a segment violation, no?
[11:39] <Tyrath> kop: what I'm trying to say it there's one xorg.conf file that will contain the settings for your graphics drivers
[11:39] <digitalvectorz> oreomike: I don't know...i'm just starting this journey :-P
[11:40] <Tyrath> does ~ convert to /home/<user> for other people in shell when they hit tab?
[11:40] <digitalvectorz> pvh_sa: how would i go about viewing the contents of /dev/kmem ?
[11:40] <joaopinto> Tyrath, with bash, yes
[11:40] <smorg> Tyrath: yep
[11:40] <Tyrath> joaopinto: any way around it?
[11:40] <Tyrath> it's just annoying
[11:40] <digitalvectorz> pvh_sa: note* cat /dev/kmem => Bad Address
[11:40] <pvh_sa> digitalvectorz: so yeah, then /dev/mem is your friend
[11:40] <Tyrath> having the extra two slashes confuses me
[11:41] <Tyrath> isn't there like a ls -l /dev/kmem or something command that lets you know the memory
[11:41] <joaopinto> Tyrath, that is a standard feature on the unix shell, years old, I am not sure bash provides an option to disable, you will need to read the bash man :P
[11:41] <Tyrath> or fd /dev/mem
[11:41] <digitalvectorz> ahh, there we go.../dev/mem
[11:42] <joaopinto> Tyrath, /proc/meminfo ?
[11:42] <Tyrath> actally scrap the first thing i said
[11:42] <smorg> ello. Does the ubuntu installer know how to handle manual partitioning as far as grub and copying the kernel image? I'm thinking of doing it gentoo style with boot,swap,root
[11:42] <smorg> (kubuntu actually)
[11:42] <Tyrath> joaopinto: it strikes me as bizarre that it's not in .bashrc
[11:42] <badawi> vnstat
[11:42] <joaopinto> smorg, it allows you to do manual partitioning, as for the kernel image copying, no, that is part of the regular package installing process
[11:42] <badawi> sorry meant vmstat
[11:42] <Tyrath> like where on earth does bash read it's data from?
[11:43] <joaopinto> Tyrath, .bashrc is just an example fie, you will not see there the tons of bash options :)
[11:43] <joaopinto> file
[11:43] <joaopinto> Tyrath, man bash
[11:43] <Tyrath> joaopinto: example file? i've written a lot of settings into .bashrc, and they've held
[11:44] <joaopinto> Tyrath, there is a section on the man named, Tilde Expansion
[11:44] <Tyrath> well not technically, i try to avoid .bashrc and use external files but still
[11:44] <joaopinto> Tyrath, I mean, it does not contain all the options that you have available on bash
[11:44] <Tyrath> joaopinto: i'll have a look, thanks
[11:44] <smorg> hm. i'll give it a try and see how it works
[11:45] <Tyrath> /etc/profile looks like the go
[11:45] <Tyrath> i'll see what's there
[11:45] <joaopinto> Tyrath, /etc/profile is system wide, while .bashrc is user wide
[11:45] <joaopinto> apart of that, they allow you the same level of customization
[11:45] <Zithara> http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/3713309/
[11:45] <pvh_sa> digitalvectorz, write a program to read it? what specifically are you looking for in memory?
[11:46] <Zithara> http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/3713309/
[11:46] <FloodBot3> Zithara: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <digitalvectorz> pvh_sa: nothing in particular.  just toying around
[11:46] <MalMen> hello, every time i start my firefox they start in offline mode.. i am connect to a usb 3G card, and my eth0 is offline, i think the problem is that... eth0 is offline, then firefox thinks not have internet.. how can i resolve my situation ? i want start firefox in normal mode every time i start it
[11:47] <joaopinto> digitalvectorz, you will need root privileges for that
[11:47] <smorg> Ah i see. under advanced it lets you assign (hd0) or whatever you'd like as boot partition... :-)
[11:47] <digitalvectorz> joaopinto: i have root privs..it's my system :-P
[11:47] <pvh_sa> digitalvectorz, ok then... toy around with "open()" and "read()" in your favourite language ;)
[11:48] <digitalvectorz> pvh_sa: i've been...it's quite interesting, watching the OS work from ground lvl
[11:48] <joaopinto> digitalvectorz, here is a sample: http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5143153
[11:48] <Tyrath> ahhhh. i think i've hit the jackpot /etc/bash_completion
[11:48] <tarelerulz> There is where I am lost , I  read what setting I should have for smbshares ,  edit the file and restarted samba ,but  They don't even see other now.
[11:48] <gnusar> is there a solution for using icq on ubuntu messengers yet?
[11:48] <joaopinto> Typhoon, that is for tab completion
[11:48] <Kohvihoor> is there a decent client, that supports ms exchange, that is not evolution?
[11:49] <joaopinto> ops, was Tyrath
[11:49] <digitalvectorz> thanks joaopinto
[11:49] <joaopinto> Tyrath, weren't you looking for ~ ?
[11:49] <Tyrath> joaopinto: I was
[11:49] <Tyrath> joaopinto: but I think it's in there
[11:49] <Tyrath> joaopinto: line 347
[11:50] <joaopinto> Tyrath, tab completion and tilde expansion are different functions (I guess)
[11:50] <Tyrath> joaopinto: ah. just when I click tab it seems to give the directory
[11:51] <Tyrath> i prefer to think of ~ as simply that. /home/chris is overly complicated
[11:51] <Tyrath> i mean how often does one type /home/<user> when they can simply type ~
[11:51] <Tyrath> it's such a pointless autocompletion
[11:51] <Kohvihoor> all the time. :(
[11:52] <Tyrath> man, i can't read these files....
[11:53] <GnuBoi> guys, how to make xine backend for totem
[11:53] <Tyrath> i get the if statements and that's about it
[11:53] <Tyrath> if and fi indicate boundaries for if statements
[11:53] <Zithara> http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/3713309/
[11:53] <Tyrath> then elif is else if
[11:53] <joaopinto> Tyrath, that is a generic directory autocompletion, it does not matter if you are browsing  /home or /xpto
[11:53] <Tyrath> but apart from that...
[11:53] <Zithara> http://www.pennergame.de/change_please/3713309/
[11:53] <whynot> hello guys
[11:53] <Tyrath> joaopinto: so is that not what I'm looking for
[11:54] <Tyrath> joaopinto: cause it says this function expands tildes in pathnames
[11:54] <whynot> Can I clone the whole hard drive (windows 2000 and ubuntu) to another one with acronis trueimage 7?
[11:54] <Tyrath> joaopinto: so say I commented that whole thing out...
[11:54] <Tyrath> I wonder what the repercussion would be...
[11:54] <joaopinto> Tyrath, there is a "This function performs file and directory completion. It's better than" on the file :)
[11:55] <joaopinto> whynot, why not use an open source alternative like partimage ?
[11:55] <whynot> partimage is such as trueimage?
[11:55] <Tyrath> joaopinto: isn't it just /etc/bash_completion
[11:56] <whynot> I haven't heard about it....I need some tip.
[11:56] <whynot> ok.  I'll check it out.
[11:56] <joaopinto> whynot, it's a partition image copy utility, never used trueimage
[11:56] <sivaji> how to increase the monitor refresh rate ?
[11:56] <koshar1> whynot i use partimage, and you prolly havnt heard of it as they dont have a big advertising budget
[11:57] <whynot> Actually, I'm used to trueimage.  That's all why I'm asking if trueimage enables me to clone linux.
[11:57] <koshar1> whynot however its very good, extremely fast and not overly complex, i think the best way to use it is in the form of a live disk lie gparted live.
[11:57] <BoltClock> how do i setup mono 2.0.1 on my ubuntu hardy install?
[11:58] <koshar1> koshar1 i have never heard of trueimage either,
[11:58] <joaopinto> BoltClock, there are no 2.0 packages for hardy as far as I know
[11:58] <BoltClock> joaopinto: do i then have to compile from source?
[11:58] <joaopinto> BoltClock, I guess so
[11:58] <whynot> koshar1/yeah, I just succeeded to resize ubuntu swap partition with gparted live.
[11:59] <Tyrath> joaopinto: which file exectes /etc/bash_completion ?
[11:59] <kop> Tyrath: what I'm trying to say is I know where the file is and how to edit but what to change is another matter
[11:59] <kop> http://kopcicle.multiply.com/journal/item/8/Seeing_Double_
[11:59] <korb_br> someone could help me with flash 10 on firefox / gnome / ubuntu ?
[11:59] <korb_br> plugins list me shockwave 9.0 r999
[11:59] <fivetwentysix> I'm finally returning to linux!
[11:59] <korb_br> already installed flash 10 .deb with dpkg
[11:59] <koshar1> whynot psycocats has a good partimage guide with pics...
[11:59] <joaopinto> korb_br, have you uninstalled the flash9 plugin first ?
[11:59] <korb_br> but no results on firefox
[12:00] <korb_br> joaopinto me ajuda ai mano
[12:00] <joaopinto> korb_br, there is no flash 10 .deb. at least not an official one
[12:00] <joaopinto> !br | korb_br
[12:00] <kop> fivetwentysix: welcome back
[12:00] <korb_br> joaopinto i got it from adobes website
[12:00] <whynot> I'm doing google search. Thanks.
[12:00] <korb_br> joaopinto what do u suggest me ?
[12:00] <joaopinto> korb_br, did you uninstall the previous plugin from ubuntu ?
[12:00] <fivetwentysix> Is Ubuntu currently the most stable distribution of Linux out there in terms of hardware support, packages, community support?
[12:01] <joaopinto> !ot | fivetwentysix
[12:01] <korb_br> joaopinto tried apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:01] <joaopinto> fivetwentysix, that's a subjective question, not here :)
[12:01] <korb_br> joaopinto but no good
[12:01] <kop> as far as user input to keep it running , yes
[12:01] <joaopinto> korb_br, first you need to remove flashplugin-nonfree
[12:01] <BoltClock> joaopinto: mono's site mentions the package mono-2.0-devel, think its better to apt-get install that or compile?
[12:01] <Jaguar48h> plz , I get ERROR  404  when i run this "wget http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter"
[12:01] <fivetwentysix> Okay, well I was just wondering if Ubuntu would treat me better than Fedora...
[12:02] <korb_br> joaopinto already did that :(
[12:02] <DJ_HaMsTa> i did something retarded,  rm -rf /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/wireless/rtl818x/rtl8187.ko
[12:02] <DJ_HaMsTa> how do i bring that driver back ?
[12:02] <joaopinto> BoltClock, if it's available on the repositories, apt-get it, if not, you will need to build form source
[12:02] <BoltClock> ok
[12:02] <kop> fivetwentysix: look at it this way if you were looking at installing Slackware I'd refer you to "professional help"
[12:02] <joaopinto> DJ_HaMsTa, dpkg -S /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/wireless/rtl818x/rtl8187.ko
[12:02] <DJ_HaMsTa> whats dpkg ?
[12:02] <joaopinto> to find the package that contained it
[12:03] <joaopinto> DJ_HaMsTa, it's the package management utility for debian/ubuntu systems
[12:03] <DJ_HaMsTa> ah
[12:03] <koshar1> whynot http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/partimage
[12:03] <fivetwentysix> kop: I doubt Slackware is harder to install then Gentoo, Gentoo gave me a brain tumour.
[12:03] <dumitru> what file manager for ubuntu do you use?
[12:03] <DJ_HaMsTa> ty
[12:03] <DJ_HaMsTa> me ?
[12:03] <joaopinto> DJ_HaMsTa, you will need to reinstall whatever package contains it
[12:03] <Jaguar48h> I need help
[12:03] <DJ_HaMsTa> what do u mean ?
[12:03] <whynot> Partimage can move(for example) 20 Gb ubuntu hard drive into 80Gb harddrive just like Ghost or Trueimage?
[12:04] <kop> fivetwentysix: I use a variety of OS's here , each in it's own place for what it does best
[12:04] <joaopinto> whynot, yes it can, but the partition will have the original size, you will need to resize it later
[12:04] <cheni> hi
[12:04] <whynot> Thank you koshar1, I'll check that website.
[12:04] <dumitru> I used krusader, that normaly is for kde, but now I realised there is GNOME Commander
[12:04] <dumitru> but i don't know how to open a new tab in gnome Commander
[12:05] <dumitru> :(
[12:05] <dumitru> anyone?
[12:05] <cheni> is there any konwn problem about ati hd 3650 and ubuntu?
[12:05] <Jaguar48h> I tybe "cd
[12:05] <Jaguar48h> wget http://media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter" in the shell but i get error 404 , plz help me ?
[12:05] <whynot> I like ubuntu alsa.  Mariah Carey = Make it happen.  It sounds great.
[12:05] <kop> fivetwentysix: If you happen to hear me beating my head on the desk repeatedly it really has nothing to do with ubuntu it's a hardware specific problem all to it's own
[12:05] <Zyfo> My owner / read|write permissions have been fucked up. After moving all my old data its owner got set as root. Also I need to do silly things like executing pidgin with sudo for it to work. How can I restore things to how they "should" be?
[12:05] <Pupeno> How do I select which screen is the primary when I have two?
[12:06] <kop> Zyfo: man chown
[12:07] <fivetwentysix> kop: Well the reason I'm switching back to Linux is directly related that I want to learn C from scratch. Windows just seems like such a messy environment to do it in.
[12:07] <Zyfo> kop: Thanks, I'll have a look at it. Which things ARE supposed to be owned by root only? Anything in my home dir at all?
[12:07] <joaopinto> Zyfo, if you have broken your system folders permissions the best solution is to reinstall or restore from a backup
[12:08] <kop> Zyfo: man chown  as in chown  <your user name here> /wtfever/file
[12:08] <fivetwentysix> Zyfo: Everything outside of home should be owned by root.
[12:08] <krasotka1> Знает ктонить хорошую программу для хранения паролей.. (про мозг я знаю , еще варианты....)
[12:08] <joaopinto> fivetwentysix, there are no major differences when using ANSI C between windows an linux, if your target platform is linux, then yes, you should keep with it
[12:08] <kop> fivetwentysix: other than data not linked to the user
[12:08] <joaopinto> !ru | krasotka1
[12:09] <lianimator> transmission likes to move my download location to my desktop.. even when the download is complete, it will download again on the desktop!
[12:09] <whynot> Once before, I failed to restore my hard drive with Ghost, so that I discarded ghost and tried acronis trueimage.  That's great program.
[12:09] <zeno> you know how in a folder how you can hit open all in tabs in firefox? is there a way to put a bookmark toolbar shortcut to open multiple tabs?
[12:09] <joaopinto> lianimator, file a bug report for it :P
[12:09] <kop> Ok I'll try this again .Can anyone point me to a working Xorg.conf for  intrepid/matrox-g450 dual head extended desktop ?
[12:09] <kop> http://kopcicle.multiply.com/journal/item/8/Seeing_Double_
[12:10] <zeno> lianimator: set the correct download location in prefrences then
[12:10] <henz> hello
[12:10] <zeno> lianimator: and move when finished
[12:10] <zeno> pref
[12:11] <dan_> does anyone know how to get sarg to log by active directory usernames instead of IP addresses?
[12:12] <zeno> dan_: run a script to convert the ips to adu?
[12:12] <ikonia> dan_ sarge is debian
[12:12] <zeno> sed 1 liner
[12:12] <dan_> ikonia: ?
[12:12] <lianimator> zeno: the destination is set to Desktop. what I don't understand is, why download again on the desktop when the original one is complete?
[12:12] <ikonia> dan_: did you not mean sarge ?
[12:13] <lianimator> zeno: looks like a bug or something.  Thanks again.
[12:14] <must> umm.. where are you from?
[12:14] <Zyfo> kop: thanks, worked :)
[12:14] <must> i'm from a republic of korea.
[12:14] <zeno> must: usa
[12:14] <zeno> must: you play baduk?
[12:14] <ikonia> macro_: this isn't a chat channel, its support only please
[12:14] <MiladKhajavi> How can I create an Ubuntu repository similar to package.ubuntu.com repository, with pool directory?
[12:15] <dAnjou> MiladKhajavi, try launchpad
[12:15] <must> yes!
[12:15] <joaopinto> MiladKhajavi, that question is best answered on one of the tutorials for creating an APT repository, best to google for it
[12:15] <ikonia> MiladKhajavi mirror the repo
[12:15] <must> baduk is very exciting!
[12:15] <must> :p
[12:15] <joaopinto> MiladKhajavi, I am assuming you want a repository with your own packages
[12:15] <must> do you play omok?
[12:16] <ikonia> must, this is a support channel only please
[12:16] <must> ok, i see.
[12:16] <zeno> must: nope im 3d at baduk tho, a site for a cool variant of it (batoo.org) opens in a few days
[12:16] <MiladKhajavi> joaopinto: I want to download all i386 package of 8.10
[12:16] <zeno> whats omok
[12:16] <zeno> MiladKhajavi: ALL of them?
[12:16] <MiladKhajavi> then I want to create DVD repository of ubuntu 8.10
[12:16] <joaopinto> MiladKhajavi, so you actually want a mirror, you just need to use a mirroring tool and a web or ftp service
[12:17] <MiladKhajavi> joaopinto: what is the mirror? can you give me a key to search through google?
[12:17] <joaopinto> MiladKhajavi, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=352460
[12:17] <lianimator> any recommendations for bittorrent program other than transmission?
[12:18] <joaopinto> lianimator, deluge
[12:18] <lianimator> joaopinto: I don't understand why deluge got replaced by transmission as the default.
[12:18] <MiladKhajavi> joaopinto: I can just download repo from windows not linux
[12:19] <joaopinto> MiladKhajavi, then I can't help you, you will need windows help, not here
[12:19] <MiladKhajavi> joaopinto: where can I find my answer, can u lead me?
[12:19] <ikonia> MiladKhajavi: ##windows
[12:20] <joaopinto> MiladKhajavi, you want to mirror an ftp/http structure on windows, ask on ##windows
[12:20] <doomhz> how can I open a new Tab in GNOME Commander?
[12:20] <zeno> lianimator: its simpler
[12:21] <|MUSE|> it seems that I am not a sudoer: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/94497/ but "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" is in /etc/sudoers?
[12:21] <lianimator> zeno: I prefer ktorrent though it's not native to gnome
[12:21] <zeno> MiladKhajavi: easiser just to install with the normal cd and add stuff later
[12:21] <joaopinto> MiladKhajavi, and be aware that the repositories (including universe) will take several DVDs
[12:21] <zeno> lianimator: the kde4 one is a huge resource hog and crashes :\
[12:22] <zeno> lianimator: was using 1.4 gb ram for me lol
[12:22] <joaopinto> |MUSE|, you need to prefix the command with: sudo
[12:22] <lianimator> zeno: wow, what do you use now? I really liked utorrent in windows
[12:22] <peleg> I have a problem with aptitude in the last two days. I get, for example, "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/mlterm/mlterm-common_2.9.3-5_i386.deb"
[12:22] <peleg> It keeps saying "are you sure?" "untrusted sources" etc.
[12:23] <zeno> lianimator: utorrent runs in wine well if you really want, i use deluge tho
[12:23] <peleg> and then it fails downloading -- it's not downloading at all
[12:23] <joaopinto> zeno, have you tried with a different mirror ?
[12:23] <zeno> and ktorrent kde3
[12:23] <zeno> joaopinto: ?
[12:23] <lianimator> zeno: wonder why deluge is the 3rd most popular one, after transmission and "BitTorrent Download Client"
[12:23] <joaopinto> ops, was for peleg
[12:24] <peleg> joaopinto, no, I just press + in aptitude and it does the rest.
[12:24] <k2s> I am trying latest UBUNTU release on DELL D610.  In Alt+F1 console there is message "Please wait loading". Does somebody have idea how to fix it ?
[12:24] <zeno> lianimator: defaults, alot of people not power users
[12:24] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[12:24] <zeno> k2s: does the cd md5 check>
[12:24] <|MUSE|> joaopinto: ah, I thought that that was the whole point of being a sudoer, you just type in the command without the sudo and it will just ask for a password?
[12:25] <joaopinto> peleg, go to the software sources application, and select a different mirror
[12:25] <joaopinto> |MUSE|, no, the wall point of sudoer, is to be able to use the "sudo" command :)
[12:25] <doktoreas> I am going to install an ubuntu server edition on a machine..is there a sort of reference of the basic things to keep in mind when doing this operation?
[12:25] <peleg> joaopinto, where is it?
[12:25] <zeno> joaopinto: i think it does both
[12:25] <|MUSE|> joaopinto: ok thanks :P
[12:25] <joaopinto> zeno, it does not
[12:26] <joaopinto> doktoreas, check help.ubuntu.com
[12:26] <k2s> zeno: I started check disk from menu and it detected problem in one file. I burned it from downloaded ISO. should I try to burn again ?
[12:26] <zeno> joaopinto: IS there a file that does that?
[12:26] <DJ_HaMsTa> dpkg: /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/wireless/rtl818x/rtl8187.ko not found.
[12:26] <zeno> besides su root =p
[12:26] <joaopinto> zeno, that allows you to run something as root ?
[12:26] <joaopinto> DJ_HaMsTa, how did you install that driver on the first place ?
[12:27] <joaopinto> zeno, no, you need to be root
[12:27] <zeno> joaopinto: that will append sudo to any command in a list automatically
[12:27] <DJ_HaMsTa> joaopinto: when i installed ubuntu it was ther
[12:27] <joaopinto> DJ_HaMsTa, that's odd :\
[12:27] <DJ_HaMsTa> comes with the OS
[12:27] <zeno> joaopinto: i suppose an alias apt-get=sudo apt-get or w./e would work
[12:27] <joaopinto> DJ_HaMsTa, try to search for the file on packages.ubuntu.com
[12:27] <DJ_HaMsTa> ugh
[12:27] <cheni> do you know when graphic cards ati radeon hd will be fully supported?
[12:27] <peleg> I get "WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!" for "mlterm [version 2.9.3-5]". but it's in "universe/x11", so why is it like that?
[12:27] <joaopinto> zeno, that would work, but kind of hard for every command :P
[12:27] <badawi> joaopinto: to become root do -> sudo passwd    then do -> su -
[12:28] <joaopinto> cheni, I have an ATI HDsomething, and works fine
[12:28] <joaopinto> BaD_CrC, not really, to become root , just sudo -i
[12:28] <joaopinto> you don't need to enable the root account to become root
[12:28] <peleg> I think I have this message applied to ANY package in aptitude!!
[12:28] <zeno> joaopinto: you dont need for every command, just ones you commonly use that need superuser privs almost every time
[12:28] <cheni> joapinto you can play hd content without problems?
[12:29] <joaopinto> cheni, oh, you refer to HD as HD Video, never tried it
[12:29] <badawi> joaopinto: didn't know that trick, nice
[12:29] <toehio> hello
[12:29] <kop> Zyfo: your welcome
[12:30] <yeryry> "sudo su" works too
[12:30] <zeno> dang my processer is up to 175 farenheight
[12:30] <toehio> Does the Nvidia 9600 GT work with ubuntu 8.1? When I boot It stops when it gets to HALD.
[12:30] <k2s> zeno: I started check disk from menu and it detected problem in one file. I burned it from downloaded ISO. should I try to burn again ?
[12:31] <zeno> toehio: just google nvidia 9600 ubuntu 8.10
[12:31] <joaopinto> sudo su is not recommend, as it does not properly setup the environment, sudo -i is the recommended procedure
[12:31] <zeno> k2s: yes use a low burn speed
[12:31] <joaopinto> toehio, it should work, since it's a common video card
[12:31] <jb-firefoxx> hi all
[12:31] <jb-firefoxx> anyone know hoe to get dial-up running on ubuntu 8.10?
[12:31] <joaopinto> k2s, check the md5sum of the image before burning
[12:31] <toehio> but I can't even boot!
[12:32] <joaopinto> !md5sum | k2s
[12:32] <joaopinto> toehio, can you boot in rescue mode ?
[12:32] <peleg> It looks like it does not find any of the proper sources! for example, I get http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages [ERROR] 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:32] <toehio> joaopinto: I have to boot in safe mode and get the root shell
[12:32] <joaopinto> toehio, did you install the nvidia driver ?
[12:32] <peleg> but I can easily ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:32] <toehio> joaopinto: How do I solve this "HALD" error and get it to boot normally?
[12:33] <toehio> not yet
[12:33] <joaopinto> toehio, that hald error does not seem related to your video card driver
[12:33] <toehio> But I thought that even without a driver it should boot to gdm
[12:33] <peleg> but I get "unknown host" trying to ping http://us.archive.ubuntu.com ... is that a dns problem?
[12:33] <joaopinto> yes, it should startup into vesa mode
[12:33] <toehio> joaopinto: it is because before when i had an ati i ran ubuntu. after getting the 9600 the problems started
[12:33] <ikonia> peleg fesity is no longer on that repo
[12:33] <joaopinto> Pretto, you need to ping us.archive.ubuntu.com, without the other url parts
[12:33] <Shifty> what could be the problem: i cant access to the internet with my new installed server... i can access it over the lan with ssh, no probs... and i can access it over the internet (external address) but i cant get from the server out in the i-net
[12:33] <ikonia> peleg: only the updates
[12:34] <peleg> ikonia, oh, I see! so what should I do?
[12:34] <Pretto> joaopinto, me?
[12:34] <ikonia> peleg upgrade to a supported version
[12:34] <DJ_HaMsTa> if i upgrade ubuntu, would it get me the drivers that came installed with it back
[12:34] <DJ_HaMsTa> ?
[12:34] <joaopinto> ops, was peleg
[12:34] <steveccc> does anyone know of an email verification piece of software for linux - basically supply it with a list of email addresses and then it outputs the good ones in one list and the dead ones in another list
[12:34] <Pretto> joaopinto,  ;)
[12:34] <DJ_HaMsTa> yup
[12:34] <DJ_HaMsTa> got em back
[12:34] <DJ_HaMsTa> woho
[12:34] <joaopinto> DJ_HaMsTa, upgrading to already installed version will do nothing
[12:34] <toehio> joaopinto: I even made a post in the forums a few months back when I was trying with 8.04!
[12:35] <peleg> ikonia, are you telling me that as long as I am staying with 7.04 I can't install new packages using aptitude?
[12:35] <DJ_HaMsTa> joaopinto: upgrading to a NEW version
[12:35] <DJ_HaMsTa> u can not upgrade to the SAME version
[12:35] <ikonia> peleg I'm telling you that release is no longer supported and updated, and that mirror you are using does not have that repo on it
[12:35] <DJ_HaMsTa> because that would not be an upgrade
[12:35] <joaopinto> steveccc, there is no reliable way to determine if an email address exists, for validation you can only apply the generic email validation rules, that can be done with a scripting language, look for samples on goole, either with php or python
[12:35] <peleg> ikonia, I can't upgrade now, I'm a student and I don't have time for that - it's a laptop and everything is so fragile... It'll take me a month to get everything to work properly again
[12:35] <Slart> steveccc: how would this program check these addresses? send an email with the subject "hi, I'm a email-harvester.. are you a real person?" ?
[12:36] <ikonia> peleg there are no updates to fesity, so it doesn't matter, you don't need to use the repos
[12:36] <ikonia> peleg: as nothing is updated any more, it's dead
[12:36] <paolino> I cannot stop pppd (I believe) from rewriting /etc/resolv.conf, even though there is no usepeerdns option in /ppp/peer/dsl-provider which is invoked via pon dsl-provider. Is there anything else I must look to resolve this?
[12:36] <Slart> steveccc: or are you just looking for something like a regex for an email-address?
[12:36] <cheni> guys, you are great. see you!!
[12:36] <peleg> ikonia, but I want to install NEW packages! for example, mlterm ...
[12:36] <ikonia> peleg nothing is being packaged for feisty - it's deasd
[12:36] <ikonia> peleg: the "new" packages don't exist on fesity
[12:37] <joaopinto> peleg, the repositories are no longer available
[12:37] <steveccc> joaopinto and slart there are pieces of software for windows which claims to connect to the mail server and verifies the address - i assume it starts the mail process and records if a mail address doesnt exist message comes back.
[12:37] <peleg> ikonia, but it is already packaged for feisty. it's not new in that meaning of new - it's new in the meaning of "does not yet exist in my machine"
[12:37] <bobbycheetah> dell d600 laptop with ubuntu 8.10.  i've noticed when I use the function key and up/down arrow keys to brighten/darken the screen I lose control of my keyboard, and cannot display drop-down menus.  anyone familiar with this kind of behaviour?
[12:37] <ikonia> peleg you need to find an active mirror then, but as I said, it's dead, gone
[12:38] <peleg> ok, this is brutal. I can't see why would UBUNTU delete/cancel existing data sources, instead of just adding new ones
[12:38] <Slart> steveccc: hmm.. I would think twice before sending these people any money.. I'm not sure that's part of the standard smtp/imap protocol..
[12:38] <ikonia> peleg space, and to stop people installing it wanting support
[12:38] <joaopinto> steveccc, that depends on the SMTP server implementing such feature, a security enabled server does not, since it allows to verify for the existence of specific users on the system
[12:38] <ikonia> peleg: also, it may only be that mirror it's gone from, I doubt it, but that may be thge case
[12:39] <peleg> oh, space is nothing, really, I don't buy that. And I didn't need any support, only the packages themselves. anyway, thanks. I'll look for other mirrors
[12:40] <yanko> hey
[12:40] <ikonia> peleg space/bandwidth is NOT nothing, who are you to say what is nothing to a company
[12:40] <yanko> i need some help? please
[12:40] <joaopinto> steveccc, the only reliable way to determine an email existence is by using a handshaking process, sending an email requesting a specific action for confirmation
[12:40] <ikonia> !eol > peleg
[12:40] <ikonia> peleg: keep up to date with your distro - it's up to you to be responsible for it
[12:41] <steveccc> joaopinto and slart thanks for the replies - thats what I thought but there are quite a few different pieces of software out there which is strange - this is one example http://www.email-unlimited.com/email_verifier_professional.html
[12:41] <brando> hi ubuntu folks! i am having AACRAID woes...  Getting lot's of "Host adapter reset request. SCSI hang ?" on 8.1 Intrepid Server.  I *think* it may be a problem with HARDWARE QUEUE SIZE
[12:42] <ikonia> brando what raid card is it ?
[12:42] <peleg> ikonia, well, thanks. I have my 7.04 for about half a year, so I feel that it is brutal to cut it out like that. anyway, I won't be able to upgrade now (or in the next 7-8 month), so I'll just give up and hopefully find a new "mirror"
[12:42] <yanko> hey
[12:42] <yanko> can some one help me?
[12:42] <ikonia> peleg then thats your fault for installing a distro that was old not supported
[12:42] <brando> IBM ServerRAID 8k-l... it says Adaptec ATB-205 on it
[12:42] <Slart> steveccc: mm.. I just googled around and there are quite a number of those utilities.. I still doubt if they work for all addresses.. as joaopinto said, the only way to make sure the address is in use is to send an email and request they send it back or something like that
[12:42] <peleg> ikonia, no, I have *bought* it like that from dell.
[12:43] <ikonia> peleg thats your fault
[12:43] <ikonia> peleg: not ubuntus', complain to dell
[12:43] <peleg> ikonia, and there was no ubuntu 8 back then
[12:43] <ikonia> peleg: you have a  year warrenty
[12:43] <ikonia> peleg: there was ubuntu 8 6 months ago
[12:43] <Slart> steveccc: you could just check if the domain exists.. that probably will remove some of the dead addresses
[12:43] <yanko> cane some one help me ?
[12:43] <peleg> ikonia, so maybe I have it a bit more. less then a year, anyway.
[12:44] <ikonia> peleg: there was ubuntu 7.10 over a year ago)
[12:44] <Slart> steveccc: you can of course keep track of what addresses bounce when you use the addresses.. if you plan on sending mail to them
[12:44] <ikonia> peleg: you have no excuse
[12:44] <badawi> how do i enable sudo logging
[12:44] <peleg> ikonia, hmm.. didn't think of 7.10. Do you think an upgrade to 7.10 will solve my problem? it should take a few minutes, shouldn't it?
[12:44] <kop> yanko: ?
[12:44] <ikonia> peleg should take a long time as it will have to download the whole repo, but you said you can't update so whats teh point
[12:45] <steveccc> slart: yes it would but in my case alot are people who have changed isp's or left companies etc.  Unfortunately if the email address is valid my software will send out to it and the only way of getting a bad address list is to collate all of the emails which come back to the sending address. - anyway thanks for your help
[12:45] <ikonia> peleg: if your going to update you should update to the current supported versions
[12:45] <peleg> ikonia, I'm confused. I thought that 7.10 is just simple bug fixes and so for 7.04, not a new distro
[12:45] <Slart> steveccc: you're welcome
[12:45] <ikonia> peleg no, it's a new distro
[12:45] <ikonia> peleg: each release ius a new distro
[12:45] <joaopinto> peleg, the version is, year.month, it's always a new distro
[12:46] <kapildev> how do we tell ubuntu not to ask password for  a specific user whenever he uses sudo?
[12:46] <ikonia> kapildev: NOPASSWORD option in sudoers files
[12:46] <kapildev> i tried sudo visudo and added a similar entry below root
[12:46] <jrib> kapildev: man sudoers, see the NOPASSWD section
[12:46] <joaopinto> kapildev, man sudoers
[12:46] <ikonia> kapildev: google brings up examples
[12:46] <brando> IBM ServerRAID 8k-l... it says Adaptec ATB-205 on it.  dmesg reveals this: Adaptec aacraid driver 1.1-5[2456]-ms.  It seems to be the most current driver but there was a bug found prior to release of 8.1 regarding this
[12:46] <kapildev> oh.ok
[12:47] <ikonia> brando: are you using the card as a hardawre controller or software?
[12:47] <Slart> steveccc: here's a thread with some discussion about it.. http://archives.devshed.com/forums/net-206/check-if-email-address-exists-not-if-email-addrss-is-2117396.html
[12:47] <peleg> ikonia, I see. ok, the problem is not time - as long as ubuntu downloads stuff in the background I don't care. the problem is that I have so many things that it took me weeks to make them work, like video, sound, keyboard, and fonts, and I'm afraid that upgrading will erase my efforts
[12:47] <brando> hardware controller
[12:47] <ikonia> peleg possible will
[12:47] <peleg> I'll have to invest weeks in order to make everything work properly again...
[12:47] <ikonia> brando so your using it in a hardware raid config
[12:47] <peleg> oh, no hope.
[12:47] <brando> install went smoothly.
[12:47] <brando> yes
[12:47] <jrib> peleg: try a live cd and see if it "just works"
[12:47] <brando> small files are passed quickly and easily
[12:48] <brando> large files > 2GB  break it every time
[12:48] <ikonia> brando have looked at any kernel parameters needed for it
[12:48] <lorgam> hi
[12:48] <lorgam> I have windows and slax installed on my PC, with the boot loader: Lilo
[12:48] <lorgam> Can I add Ubuntu without installing grub ?
[12:48] <brando> no, afraid i am too noob ;)
[12:48] <ikonia> lorgam: yup
[12:48] <lorgam> how can I do this ikonia ?
[12:49] <Paddy_EIRE> lorgam, although you would have to use the slax support channel
[12:49] <ikonia> lorgam: install ubuntu and click the option to have " don't install grub"
[12:49] <Paddy_EIRE> not a ubuntu issue
[12:49] <lorgam> Paddy_EIRE I'm asking how to install ubuntu without grub !
[12:49] <ikonia> brando: sounds like a buffer error, I'd look for config options for that card,
[12:49] <lorgam> have you a screenshot of this ikonia ?
[12:50] <ikonia> lorgam: why do you need a screen shot
[12:50] <brando> ok- please hint on where they go ...
[12:50] <Paddy_EIRE> lorgam, well thats the extent of it.. uncheck install grub during install
[12:50] <ikonia> lorgam: just follow the installer and then the option that says "install grub" disable it
[12:50] <ikonia> lorgam: it's pretty intuitive
[12:50] <jb-firefoxx> Paddy: yeah
[12:50] <lorgam> oky
[12:50] <ikonia> brando: they are normally kernel boot parameters, or can go in the sysctl.conf
[12:50] <jb-firefoxx> its about the last step, before u finally install
[12:51] <brando> ok, i look into it.  thanks a bunch ikonia :)
[12:52] <lorgam> What's the latest version of Ubuntu ?
[12:52] <peleg> jrib, thanks, I think I might will. Will it really imitate well how it'll work with a new installation?
[12:52] <dAnjou> lorgam, 8.10
[12:52] <lorgam> ok
[12:52] <dAnjou> intrepid ibex
[12:52] <jrib> peleg: of course, it's just like an install
[12:52] <peleg> ikonia, how much time should I expect for a new installation to work? (not including my own fixes)
[12:52] <peleg> jrib, thanks.
[12:53] <jrib> peleg: I'd try both 8.04 (support for 3 years on the desktop) and 8.10 (support for 18 months, but newer).
[12:54] <lorgam> if I install Ubuntu 7.04 and have acces to internet, can I update it to the version 8.10 ?
[12:54] <peleg> jrib, what should I backup before installation?
[12:54] <dAnjou> lorgam, I think so
[12:54] <jrib> peleg: anything you should already have backups for: data you care about
[12:54] <dAnjou> lorgam, but step by step
[12:54] <lorgam> ?
[12:54] <ikonia> lorgam yup
[12:54] <joaopinto> lorgam, you should install 8.10 directly
[12:54] <peleg> jrib, but what about all of the stuff in .Gnome and .irssi and etc... will it be preserved? will it survive the upgrade?
[12:55] <lorgam> joaopinto I have a low connexion to internet , and I have the CD of version 7.04
[12:55] <dAnjou> lorgam, do what joaopinto said
[12:55] <joaopinto> lorgam, the upgrade size is not different from the CD size
[12:55] <jrib> peleg: yes, all your settings are supposed to stay there, so barring some catastrophic failure, you are fine
[12:55] <lorgam> ah oky
[12:55] <dAnjou> lorgam, it will take more time to upgrade it
[12:55] <lorgam> so I'll download the 8.10
[12:55] <lorgam> thanks
[12:56] <kapildev> did anyone observe that speedbar is broken in emacs <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[12:56] <vette> hi.. looked every where
[12:56] <vette> need some help
[12:56] <kapildev> mouse-2 does the job instead of mouse-1
[12:57] <peleg> jrib, ok, thanks. Do you have any estimation how much time should it take? I can take a day off now, so if the whole process will take no more than 6 hours, I think I'll go for it (I assume people here will try to help me if I'm stuck, right? ;-) )
[12:57] <ardchoille> !ask | vette
[12:57] <cdavis> Does anyone know how to change spamassassins scoring of RCVD_IN_XBL=3.033 when using amavisd and postfix?
[12:57] <cE_imoet> j
[12:57] <cE_imoet> uio
[12:57] <dAnjou> vette, everyone here expect(!) that you looked everywhere, so you don't have to say it
[12:58] <vette> tried creating a partition and getting an error - using gparted
[12:58] <jrib> peleg: are you upgrading from 7.04?
[12:58] <cdavis> I changed it in local.cf, restarted spamassassin and it still doesn't change the default value given
[12:58] <lorgam> what should I choose, Kubuntu or Ubuntu or Xbuntu or Edubuntu ?
[12:59] <dAnjou> lorgam, depends
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> lorgam, which ever you want to use :/
[12:59] <peleg> jrib, indeed
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> lorgam, research your needs first
[12:59] <vette> any ideas?
[12:59] <lorgam> the difference is only in the Interface ?
[12:59] <vette> Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/sdb6 -- Device or resource busy.
[12:59] <Paddy_EIRE> lorgam, mainly yes.. the "Desktop Environment"
[13:00] <lorgam> ok
[13:00] <allennewok> Hello
[13:00] <vette> any help?
[13:00] <lorgam> I'll take Ubuntu then
[13:00] <Paddy_EIRE> !de
[13:00] <prahal_> hi has anyone got suspend to ram working under jaunty ? it seems to me its consolekit version has a bug
[13:00] <vette> will be appreciated?
[13:00] <Paddy_EIRE> umm
[13:00] <ikonia> prahal_ #ubuntu+1 please
[13:00] <vette> sata
[13:00] <prahal_> ikonia, thanks
[13:00] <badawi> how can i use vi with visudo
[13:00] <daNz_ajah> gbhhhh
[13:00] <allennewok> this is the first time for me to come here
[13:00] <ikonia> badawi EDITOR=vi
[13:00] <ikonia> badawi: then visudo
[13:00] <dAnjou> lorgam, low performance? Xubuntu, more performance? Ubuntu, even more perfomance? Kubuntu, Edubuntu? forget it ;)
[13:01] <daNz_ajah> cgfhhmn
[13:01] <vette> anyone can help with this issue?
[13:01] <ikonia> daNz_ajah stop please
[13:01] <lorgam> ok :)
[13:01] <jrib> peleg: you'll need to upgrade through 7.10 first, then 8.04, then 8.10 (as far as you want to go since all of these are supported, however 7.10 support ends in april).  Each upgrade will probably take "a couple" of hours (it depends on how much you have installed).  If you just want to upgrade to 7.10, I'd say you have plenty of time.  Depending on how much time that takes, you can then gauge if you have
[13:01] <jrib> time for the 8.04 upgrade
[13:01] <badawi> ikonia: not working
[13:02] <ikonia> badawi what happens
[13:02] <peleg> jrib, oh, cool, thanks! I'll start with 7.10 then
[13:02] <allennewok> but i saw some words could not be listed fully
[13:02] <vette> any help with partioning issue?
[13:02] <allennewok> why
[13:02] <ikonia> allennewok pardon ?
[13:03] <badawi> ikonia: tried EDITOR=vi <enter> sudo visudo, tried export EDITOR=vi <enter> sudo visudo, tried EDITOR=vi sudo visudo all of them started pico, i'm not used to pico :(
[13:03] <peleg> What simple program you know for burning dvds? (hmm... and how will I install it if I don't have "active mirrors"?)
[13:03] <allennewok> o,nothing sorry
[13:03] <gamla_kossan> hi people. I'm wondering where I can change the type of hash that my passwd file uses? in fedora, there's authconfig, but it doesn't seem to be available for ubuntu.
[13:04] <vette> any partitioning guyz around?
[13:04] <gamla_kossan> vette: it's easier if you ask your question =)
[13:04] <bobbycheetah> nm.  using shred to wipe the hdd and sell it. i'm tired of putting up with this dell.
[13:05] <gamla_kossan> anyone? anyone? bueller?
[13:05] <vette> i get an error when using gparted
[13:05] <gamla_kossan> bueller?
[13:05] <gamla_kossan> =)
[13:06] <gamla_kossan> vette: there's a weird bug imo in gparted; it mounts the partitions when it scans for them. unmount the partition you want to edit, and try again. if that's your problem =)
[13:06] <vette> i can't unmount it since it is now showing as unknown?
[13:06] <gamla_kossan> oh, that doesn't sound very good.
[13:07] <Paddy_EIRE> vette, did you apply
[13:07] <lorgam> and if I install ubuntu with grub, grub will detect Slax and windows ?
[13:07] <allennewok> I am a new user for linux.so I only do nithing but look at the board for what you say.
[13:07] <gamla_kossan> well, I'd help you out but I'm just about to leave for lunch. I'll be back in a bit, but hopefully you've gotten help before then.
[13:07] <lorgam> (I have alredy windows and slax installed)
[13:07] <badawi> ikonia: works when i do this -> sudo -i <enter> export EDITOR=vi <enter> visudo
[13:07] <vette> not sure i understand apply?
[13:07] <majnoon> lorgam, USUALLY
[13:07] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | lorgam
[13:07] <ikonia> lorgam if you have a shared /boot partition, maybe
[13:07] <Paddy_EIRE> lorgam, tut tut
[13:08] <ikonia> badawi what happens when you do that
[13:08] <badawi> ikonia: i get vi
[13:08] <ikonia> badawi: thats visudo
[13:08] <ikonia> badawi: visudo is just an editor
[13:08] <allennewok> what's the topic?
[13:08] <ikonia> or a wrapper I should say
[13:08] <jrib> badawi: sudo resets the environment.  Did you read visudo's man page?
[13:09] <freiksenet> hello everyone. I have a problem with my ubuntu on old hp omnibook xt6050 laptop. I can't get display driver to work. i try to put "intel" driver to xorg.conf, but then on restart it fails to load. In logs I see that he tries to access external VGA output and when he fails he just unloads intel drivers. he doesnot even try to use internal laptop screen.
[13:09] <ikonia> badawi if your EDITOR is set to vi, and you do visudo you will edit the file in vi
[13:09] <badawi> ikonia: this is what i want
[13:10] <ikonia> badawi and thats what you should get
[13:10] <badawi> jrib: reading ...
[13:10] <muxx> freiksenet, what version of ubuntu do you have?
[13:10] <freiksenet> 8.10
[13:10] <jrib> badawi: ok, well my point is you want: sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[13:10] <peleg> jrib, do you have any idea how will I get gnomebaker or some other burning application with no active mirrors? do you know of a binary of gnomebaker somewhere?
[13:10] <badawi> jrib: ahh!
[13:11] <jrib> peleg: old-releases.ubuntu.com until you upgrade
[13:11] <EugenMayer> what i the easiest way to get vmbox installed under ubuntu?
[13:11] <peleg> jrib, thanks!
[13:11] <Tomasso> I cant kill al process, how do i force it to quit?
[13:11] <jrib> EugenMayer: vmbox?
[13:11] <makkalot> hi all i have installed latest version of ubuntu 8.10 but the highest resolution that appears on my desktop is 800x600, any ideas ?
[13:12] <makkalot> i have intel based graphic video card
[13:12] <Paddy_EIRE> !vbox | EugenMayer
[13:12] <peleg> jrib, something like "deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com feisty main universe" ?
[13:13] <jrib> peleg: almost.  Look at the current url you use
[13:13] <Paddy_EIRE> Tomasso, try structuring your questions a little better please
[13:14] <peleg> weird, I get "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" and "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[13:14] <peleg> oh, silly me. forget about that
[13:14] <tarokun> makkalot: run xrandr -q and see what options you have.
[13:15] <freiksenet> also I tried to use vesa driver, but it just allows 640x480 resolution if you run xrandr.
[13:15] <makkalot> tarokun: trying ..
[13:16] <freiksenet> and it skips mode I specified in xorg.conf
[13:16] <prahal_> makkalot, do you use a very old monitor (one without EDID support)
[13:16] <freiksenet> saying "no mode of this name", even though I specified it in monitor modeline %=
[13:16] <makkalot> prahal_: no it is my new notebook
[13:16] <wjj> hi all i have a question
[13:17] <dAnjou> wjj, we know
[13:17] <wjj> after i use about 10minutes the usb will be disconnected
[13:18] <badawi> i'm not clear on the syntax for enabling logging in sudo, i keep getting >>> sudoers file: syntax error, when i save :(
[13:18]  * Panarchy says Hi
[13:18] <foloex> is it possible to change the idproduct of a usb device for the system ?
[13:19] <Panarchy> Is language-support-writing-en an important package for an english speaking Ubuntu user?
[13:19] <prahal_> makkalot, then xrandr  as tarokun told
[13:20] <spencercornyn> hello everyone... has anyone tried LINUXBIOS or COREBOOT?
[13:20] <Panarchy> Is 'language-support-writing-en' an important package for an English speaking Ubuntu user? As I'm currently trying to completely remove OpenOffice.
[13:20] <prahal_> should give you all the detected resolutionns
[13:20] <makkalot> prahal_: i have 2 options there 800x600 and smaller one
[13:20] <badawi> nevermind, it should be a different line
[13:20] <wjj> i am sorry i dont know what's idproduct
[13:20] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | spencercornyn
[13:20] <heret1c> 'lo .)
[13:20] <wjj> but i just no react
[13:20] <prahal_> spencercornyn, they are te same (only linuxbios was the old name)
[13:20] <wjj> all ways
[13:21] <wjj> y when i press dmesg display like fat:directory
[13:21] <Panarchy> Is 'language-support-writing-en' an important package for an English speaking Ubuntu user? As I'm currently trying to completely remove OpenOffice, through synaptic, and it came up that this extra package had to be removed
[13:21] <Panarchy> Is 'language-support-writing-en' an important package for an English speaking Ubuntu user? As I'm currently trying to completely remove OpenOffice, through synaptic, and it came up that this extra package has to be removed
[13:21] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat
[13:21] <makkalot> tarokun: have 2 options there with xrandr -q 800x600 and smaller one ,what todo now ?
[13:22] <Panarchy> Sorry, had made a typo in the first one
[13:22] <spencercornyn> prahal_: the bios in my pc is gone i think... it doesn't boot anything nothing shows up... i don't have recovery discs... will replacing it with coreboot work?
[13:22] <tarokun> makkalot: what resolution do you expect to have?
[13:22] <spencercornyn> not too old of a computer without any bios in it... just want to fix the damn thing
[13:22] <heret1c> have an issue w. gmobilemedia/permissions/groups/wozzit. GMM refuses to connect, antwats. No problem w. gammu.
[13:22] <prahal_> makkalot, which is the brand/model of the notebook .. if there are already reports about it it will go faster deciphering what s happening
[13:23] <Paddy_EIRE> spencercornyn, this is not the place for coreboot support
[13:23] <Paddy_EIRE> spencercornyn, this is a ubuntu support channel
[13:23] <StretchUK> Hey all, I'm trying to sort out read/write access for an external hard drive. When i plug it in it's auto mounted. Problem I'm having right now is that I can't find out what the /dev/ address for it is. Doesn't seem to show up when i run fdisk. Any ideas?
[13:23] <doktoreas> if I enable ufw, by default it will block all ports?
[13:23] <jrib> StretchUK: type 'mount' and look for the mount point
[13:24] <Boohbah> heret1c: sorry, what do 'wozzit', 'antwats', and 'gammu' mean? is that English?
[13:24] <makkalot> tarokun: at least 1280
[13:24] <makkalot> the icons are huge really
[13:24] <StretchUK> ah that looks helpful. thank you.
[13:24] <jrib> StretchUK: what filesystem by the way?
[13:24] <heret1c> boob
[13:24] <ikonia> heret1c ?
[13:25] <prahal_> spencercornyn, recovery disk would not help ... you ll need a flash rom card or to ask an assembler to do it for you (be it a coreboot bios or a vanilla bios). Cannot help much more sorry
[13:25] <tarokun> makkalot: is 1280 an option in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[13:25] <heret1c> Boohbah: know anything about GMobilemedia?
[13:25] <StretchUK> jrib, it's NTFS i believe. And it doesn't appear to be showing up in the list after i've put 'mount'
[13:25] <spencercornyn> thanks prahal_
[13:26] <jrib> StretchUK: why do you believe it is auto-mounted?
[13:26] <StretchUK> well it shows up on the desktop. it's just read-only.
[13:26] <puneeth1> !VIA
[13:26] <jrib> StretchUK: ls -l /media
[13:26] <puneeth1> !graphic
[13:27] <Paddy_EIRE> !ntfs | StretchUK
[13:27] <heret1c> GMM gives an interpretable error when I try to connect with my phone. this/or/that/or.
[13:27] <prahal_> spencercornyn, you could try to remove the battery on the motherboard for a few minutes. That will reset the bios (if it was not broken by a power issue)
[13:28] <Abdie_26> feri
[13:28] <prahal_> and usually there is a jumper to do that see the doc of the motherboard
[13:28] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, try to structure your questions so that they make sense please... all on one line dont use enter as punctuation :)
[13:28] <spencercornyn> prahal_: i did that.. the thing turns on but nothing shows up on screen.. not even a beep...
[13:29] <makkalot> tarokun: it is kind of weird i dont have so much entries in my xorg.conf, i dont have those that are also supported 800x600 etc
[13:29] <youshaoyun> quit
[13:29] <tarokun> makkalot: assuming you have the right graphic driver loaded, get a fresh xorg.conf using X -configure and test it out.
[13:30] <Abdie_26> feri
[13:30] <heret1c> Paddy_EIRE: pardons. been at this for hours. combination of bad eyesight and dark surroundings don't help.
[13:30] <Paddy_EIRE> heret1c, I can understand that
[13:31] <der|kunstler> why is it that when I create a manual connection, it doesn't stay, when I reboot it goes back to DHCP
[13:31] <tarokun> makkalot: you'll need to do that in VC. frustrating I know.
[13:31] <StretchUK> OK so now I have this output but I don't know if any of them are my HD or my messed up attempts at mounting.
[13:31] <StretchUK> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root    root     6 2008-12-09 11:54 cdrom -> cdrom0
[13:31] <StretchUK> drwxr-xr-x  2 root    root  4096 2008-12-09 11:54 cdrom0
[13:31] <StretchUK> drwx------ 12 stretch root 32768 1970-01-01 01:00 MEDIA
[13:31] <StretchUK> drwxrwxrwx  1 root    root 16384 2008-12-09 13:02 Trash
[13:31] <FloodBot3> StretchUK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.