[15:39] <ezra-s> I am having freezes with ubuntu 10.04 + AR5212 802.11abg Wireless card, anyone knows about this or how to solve it?
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> some modems may have drivers.. some may be totally unsupported...
[15:40] <ubutuzero> someone help me
[15:40] <ubutuzero>  I have here a hp pavillon dv6000
[15:40] <ubutuzero>  the short time he began to show some news for min
[15:40] <ubutuzero>  it starts and runs normally until a certain time after it for the programs and when I open one, it's an error input output error
[15:40] <FloodBot3> ubutuzero: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:40] <ubutuzero>   nothing works
[15:40] <ubutuzero>  someone there has a clue
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> ubutuzero:  check dmesg output when it fails. keep a terminal open with 'tail -f /var/log/messages' or some how to keep  an eye on it
[15:41] <ubutuzero> someone help me
[15:41] <ubydoobydo> some modems are exclusivly windows
[15:41] <ulumulu> hi, does somebody know how to lock the screen using a Ubuntu 9.10 Live-CD so that a password is required to unlock it? (I already set a password but the computer just doesn't ask for it when I lock the screen by pressing Ctrl-Alt-L)
[15:41] <Matt__> hi
[15:41] <ubutuzero>  I have here a hp pavillon dv6000
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> ubutuzero:  could be a hard drive is failing.
[15:41] <ubutuzero>  the short time he began to show some news for min
[15:41] <ubutuzero>
[15:41] <ubydoobydo> i hated that crap when i first got into ubuntu
[15:41] <ubutuzero> it starts and runs normally until a certain time after it for the programs and when I open one, it's an error input output error
[15:41] <ubutuzero>
[15:41] <ubutuzero> nothing works
[15:41] <ubutuzero>  someone there has a clue
[15:41] <FloodBot3> ubutuzero: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:42] <ubutuzero> yes, badblocks hd
[15:42] <funkyweasel> Good afternoon.  I've been following the instructions at /community/LucidUpgrades and dled the alternative iso, burned it, but the instructions refer to /cdrom/cdromupgrade which does not exist on the ISO I downloaded.     Popped in the CD - nothing.
[15:43] <RedXIII> Recently the disk containing my ubuntu failed and I had to remove it from my computer
[15:44] <RedXIII> Now I'm getting no such device grub errors
[15:44] <k-rad> ezra-s, google before askin here is my advice
[15:44] <ubydoobydo> google is lame
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> RedXIII:  so you jhave just a windows macjhine now?
[15:44] <ezra-s> k-rad, did last weekend
[15:44] <RedXIII> How can I restore my windows disk back to MBR?
[15:44] <ubydoobydo> sometimes
[15:44] <RedXIII> Dr_Willis: Yes.
[15:44] <raphael> Brasilllllllllll
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> RedXIII:  use a windows cd/dvd and restore the windows bootloader with the proper commands.
[15:44] <ulumulu> hi, how can I lock the screen with an Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD?
[15:44] <RedXIII> Is there any way to still use GRUB?
[15:45] <ubydoobydo> people can provide much more relevant info...more so then a search engine with paid listings
[15:45] <RedXIII> I'm not sure I have a windows disk handy.
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> RedXIII:  not that i know of.. since it wants files from the ubuntu/linux partitions
[15:45] <RedXIII> bleh.
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> RedXIII:  you could pop in a flash drive and do a mini install of ubuntu to it. :) i guess..  but thats a little extreme
[15:46] <ubydoobydo> i have a usb stick with alt install and another with damnsmall linux..
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> RedXIII:  there may be other ways to restore teh bootloader. check in #windows
[15:46] <ubydoobydo> i was able to do a good install to hd after a bit
[15:47] <ubydoobydo> i'm wondering if its worth getting ubu 10?
[15:47] <ubydoobydo> i have sb live and some wifi adapters.. does it support wifi-g / n?
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> it all depends on the chipset.
[15:47] <funkyweasel> Dr_Willis: In fact my manager tried using an alternate cd to upgrade from karmic to lucid and it resulted in a dead system.  So we're a bit leery about the upgrade process at the moment.  We don't want to kill the office connection for an afternoon, but if alternative-cd isn't working I'm not sure what the choice is.
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> and proberly it does.
[15:48] <ubydoobydo> and i've heard lots of people have issues with sblive and x-fi soundcards
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> funkyweasel:  why kill a connection? Im confused on that issue? I can do a clean install in less then an hr.
[15:48] <serp_> I want to convert a video file to raw YUV420 data. is there a handy tool for that in Ubuntu?
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> sblive is a differnt card then a x-fi card... Unless creative has gotten creative in their naming again
[15:49] <ubydoobydo> dr_ they have
[15:49] <funkyweasel> dr_willis: It's a work machine.  I'd rather not do a clean install.  I would like to do an upgrade.  We share an adsl connection amongst the dozen or so office pcs, so I'd like to avoid monopolising the connection.
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> Ive used sblive cards ages ago with few issues.. X-fi used to be a problem.. but not sure how supported it is now. Ive not heard anyone ask about x-fi here in ages.
[15:49] <ubydoobydo> x-fi is sblive xc
[15:49] <ubydoobydo> not much diffrences
[15:49] <funkyweasel> Dr_Willis: If network upgrade is the only way to do it reliably then fair enough.  I want to exhaust the other possibilities first.
[15:50] <ubydoobydo> dunno about the platnum or gamer verstions tho
[15:50] <ubydoobydo> about 3 people asked about x-fi static issues today /last night
[15:51] <ubydoobydo> i think i'll make an install cd anyway =c
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> funkyweasel:  i thought the alt-cd was supposed to work as a repo for upgrading.. ive never done it that way
[15:51] <ubydoobydo> i'm tired of messin with 8.04 getting it perfect..and then spontneously messes up
[15:51] <funkyweasel> Dr_Willis: This is what I am trying to do :)
[15:52] <h00k> ubydoobydo: You might want to head over to #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chatter, but please keep this channel for support questions and answers only :)
[15:52] <ubydoobydo> xD
[15:52] <ubydoobydo> i do.. i rly try
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> ubutuzero:  if you are having hd issues and bad blocks You should be looking into buying a new HD..
[15:52] <Jef91> I am having an issue video calling with skype on Ubuntu 10.04 - when I go to test my video device it see my camera (and I see my own image) however it does not display any video feed (mine or theirs) when I make a call...
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> ubutuzero:  i got a 1.5 tb with some bad spots. but luckly they are all on the 'first' partitiion.. i dont plan on using that hd for anything imporntant.
[15:53] <vulf^24^m> is there away to stop the "amplified" sound in ubuntu? i.e. keeping db gain at 0.0 max?
[15:53] <dabaR> Man!
[15:53] <ubydoobydo> alsamixer?
[15:53] <joshua_roberts> is there anyone who can help me configure my xorg.conf?
[15:54] <vulf^24^m> ubydoobydo, but i cant lock the 100% as unamplified....as soon as i turn my volume wheel on my keyboard..it goes up to the "amplified" 100%
[15:54] <ubydoobydo> your can actually turn off the amp with alsamixer?
[15:54] <jmad980> joshua_roberts: nope, nobodys done that in years ;)
[15:54] <dabaR> !details | joshua_roberts
[15:54] <ubydoobydo> as well as the 3db boost
[15:54] <vulf^24^m> ubydoobydo, i can turn it off (by bringing volume down to 0.0db gain...but i cant lock it there
[15:55] <funkyweasel> Dr_Willis: But when I try adding the alternative cd as a software source I get "E:Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc or the wrong architecture?"
[15:55] <ubydoobydo> you could disable or re assiang the hot key that pumps it up to full volume xD
[15:55] <funkyweasel> Dr_Willis: But it *is* a burn of the 10.04 iso for i386!  Frustrating.
[15:55] <ubydoobydo> or mute it?
[15:55] <vulf^24^m> ubydoobydo, but i want to be able to go to min and max with the wheel, but avoid going up to the amplified part...
[15:56] <ubydoobydo> what makes it amplified?? just being at 100%
[15:56] <xxiao>  /join #drupal-support
[15:56] <joshua_roberts> nvidia-settings is not giving me what I need.  Ubuntu 9.10x64  2 nvidia video cards, 4 monitors.  2 Xserver sessions, one for each pair of monitors.  But when I do this I get a huge virtual desktop that spans both monitors, also my maximized applications span both monitors.
[15:56] <aurilliance> trying to run a ubuntu 8 VMWare harddrive on Virtual box, I get http://imagebin.org/102099. Anyone have any suggestions?
[15:56] <xxiao> oops---sorry
[15:56] <vulf^24^m> if the volume goes up more than 75% it enteres the amplified sectoin...and gets distorted
[15:57] <vulf^24^m> i want my 75% to be the new 100% sort of
[15:57] <joshua_roberts> I want maximized applications to only take up one monitor, having something more like the extended desktop feature in windows instead of a huge virtual desktop.
[15:57] <ubydoobydo> hmm that's tricky
[15:57] <maccam94> is https://help.ubuntu.com down for anyone else?
[15:57] <forceflow> joshua_roberts: can't you select "twinview" or "extended desktop" somewhere?
[15:58] <vulf^24^m> dont know why it distorts as soon as i skip the "unamplified" marker in sound control
[15:58] <veleno> hello everyone.
[15:58] <jakexks> maccam94, seems down here
[15:58] <vulf^24^m> sounds get all hissy
[15:58] <funkyweasel> Has anyone here successfully from desktop karmic to lucid using the alternative cd?
[15:58] <sipior> vulf^24^m: are you adjusting the pcm channel volume?
[15:58] <iflema> maccam94 yes
[15:58] <ubydoobydo> i don't know of a way to restrict how far the "wheel" can be set.. like a limit to max gain etc...but with pumped volume hissy is normal..without filters..static and distortion could destroy headphones tho
[15:58] <joshua_roberts> forceflow: I can select twinview and that is the source of the problem.  Twinview generates one huge virtual desktop, one screen that is stretched across two monitors
[15:59] <vulf^24^m> sipior, pcm is at max in alsamixer..and reads 0.0db that way...should i put that down and master up?
[15:59] <veleno> i would like to: configure an ubuntu machine, 'freeze' this configuration (on an iso file, or other file format) and deploy it on a cluster via PXE. what system would you suggest?
[15:59] <sipior> vulf^24^m: yes.
[15:59] <SlidingHorn> funkyweasel: what's the actual problem you're having?  (don't address it to me -- I'm @ work and might not be able to see it)  --
[15:59] <SlidingHorn> !anyone
[15:59] <ubydoobydo> 24 you could bring down all the rest of the volume controls to 75%
[15:59] <joshua_roberts> I am not sure what I need to do to fix the problem, but it is not something I seem to be able to fix in nvidia-sttings
[15:59] <joshua_roberts> er settings
[15:59] <ubydoobydo> then the wheel controls the main volume...
[15:59] <funkyweasel> SlidingHorn: Understood, I will be more specific.
[15:59] <ubydoobydo> right?
[15:59] <sipior> vulf^24^m: at any rate, it should reduce your hissing audio problem.
[15:59] <vulf^24^m> sipior, unfortunately the volume controller seems to "up" everything pcm and master
[16:00] <sipior> vulf^24^m: there should be a configuration option to tie the controller to a single control
[16:01] <vulf^24^m> sipior, that i didn't know...any idea how? :)
[16:01] <funkyweasel> I am trying to upgrade from Karmic Desktop to Lucid using the alternative-cd.  Unforunately when I try to add the cd as a source it either fails to recognise the cd ("E:Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc or the wrong architecture?") or get stuck trying to 'unmount cd'.
[16:01] <sipior> vulf^24^m: which mixer are you using?
[16:01] <vulf^24^m> pulseaudio
[16:01] <joshua_roberts> so that is why I am wondering if I need to edit xorg.conf...
[16:01] <ubydoobydo> lol ubuntustudio hasn't replied to my question..about nvida support being better in a studio version...30min+ counting xD
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> ubydoobydo:  its ubuntu based .. nvidia support should be identical
[16:01] <funkyweasel> Also the instructions at help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades#Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD are wrong.  No such path exists on my downloaded alternative cd.
[16:02] <freakynl> hi, i was trying to upgrade the kernel in one of our ec2 ubuntu vm's, but it gave errors it couldn't find something, don't exactly recall what it couldn't find, but it couldn't find it in /proc/misc file. Because of this grub didn't get updated. I can do this manually but I don't want to cause potential updates with the next update. It was a default non-modified image btw just ran apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade (10.04 32bit server small inst
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> joshua_roberts:  err.. after enabling twinview. i always restart the X server (or reboot) that makes sure all the apps are using the twinview setting. if you just 'apply'  the setting and DONT restart X. i find some apps get confused.,
[16:02] <vulf^24^m> sipior, pulseaudio
[16:02] <ubydoobydo> where would i put a sideband addressing code for my nvidia card? i forgot where i put it, and this may be the source of my problems?
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> joshua_roberts:  on a clean install i normally do this.. update/uopgrade/install nvidia drivers.. reboot, enable twinview. restart gdm.
[16:03] <aurilliance> anyone?
[16:03] <aurilliance> trying to run a ubuntu 8 VMWare harddrive on Virtual box, I get http://imagebin.org/102099. Anyone have any suggestions?
[16:03] <mataks> what's better in performance a 32bit or a 64bit cpu?
[16:03] <joshua_roberts> Dr_Willis:  I have tried that.  I even restarted the computer
[16:03] <joshua_roberts> well the driver update not.  I will try that and see
[16:03] <ubydoobydo> 64...
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> joshua_roberts:  ive been doing it this way for years.. never had an issue. you DID save the settings to the 'xorg.conf' ?
[16:04] <joshua_roberts> no I installed nvidia drivers yes
[16:04] <joshua_roberts> yes
[16:04] <sipior> vulf^24^m: have a look here: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=223558 . i think your problem is the flat-volume feature of pulseaudio.
[16:04] <funkyweasel> Ah, nm.  Will try a reboot, and do the network upgrade :/
[16:04] <pakair> how do I install System|Services in 10.04?
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> joshua_roberts:  what video card? this has worked the same for me for my 5500, 6800, and 8800. and even my laptops  whateverithas..
[16:04] <gentooxer> mataks: with a 32 Bit CPU you can only use 4GB RAM
[16:04] <vulf^24^m> thanks sipior :)
[16:05] <ubydoobydo> is ther a gui server edition of 10?
[16:05] <joshua_roberts> quadro fx 470 and geforce 9500GT
[16:05] <ubydoobydo> gen so these 32bit machines with 32gb of ram are a fluke?
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> joshua_roberts:  what app is having the issue? i just enabled twinvieqw on this new install and saved to the xorg.conf THEN hit 'apply' to get it going right now.. and the apps seem to be workign right
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> ubydoobydo:  the pxe kernel can have more then 4gb of ram i recall
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> or was that pex ?
[16:06] <sipior> Dr_Willis: PAE
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> but you are better off using a 64bit kernel with  that much ram
[16:06] <joshua_roberts> Dr_Willis  the OS is having issues.  If I maximize an app, any app, it covers both monitors
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> sipior:  I like pie :)
[16:07] <Dr_Willis> joshua_roberts:  its not doing it here. Sounds liek twinview is not gettting enabled.
[16:07] <freakynl> mataks: what's better, a ferrari or a jeep? You honestly can't tell w/o context can you? On the highway the ferrari will go much faster, in the desert it will be a big problem however...
[16:07] <sipior> Dr_Willis: doesn't everyone?
[16:08] <ububuntu> when do you drive a ferrari in the desert?
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> joshua_roberts:  heres my xorg.conf - 2 monitors.   http://pastebin.com/zAHsRP0p
[16:08] <mataks> in ubuntu how will i know my system summary or an overview for my computer.. i can't find it
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> !info hardinfo
[16:08] <SlidingHorn> ububuntu: that was his point
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> mataks:  one way install/run hardinfo :)
[16:08] <SlidingHorn> mataks: apt-get install sysinfo
[16:08] <ububuntu> oh lawl
[16:09] <h00k> !ot | ububuntu
[16:09] <mataks> ok thnx
[16:09] <ububuntu> ,,,
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> joshua_roberts:  good luck.
[16:09] <joshua_roberts> thanks
[16:10] <amaurea> After a small regular package update, the network manager is no longer displayed on my top panel, even though it seems to be running. How do I get it back?
[16:11] <Mrcheesenips> Is there a Ubuntu server help channel?
[16:11] <h00k> Mrcheesenips: #ubuntu-server
[16:11] <Mrcheesenips> thanks
[16:11] <anodesni> amaurea, try "killall gnome-panel" in a terminal
[16:11] <amaurea> anodesni: the panels went away, and then came back, looking identical
[16:12] <Beyecixramd> amaurea: try "nm-applet"
[16:12] <anodesni> amaurea, and the network manager is still gone?
[16:12] <amaurea> anodesni: yes
[16:12] <anodesni> amaurea, then press Alt+F2 and typ in "nm-applet"
[16:12] <Beyecixramd> -.-'
[16:13] <obcecado> hi
[16:13] <ubydoobydo> lol 64-bit ubu 10  is not recommended for daily usage??? why no!?!?!
[16:13] <ubydoobydo> not..
[16:13] <obcecado> how can i override monitor numbering on X ? i have latest fglrx drivers installed
[16:13] <amaurea> anodesni, Beyecixramd: It says that it couldn't acquire the session service as it already is taken. It also says that it couldn't initialize the dbus manager
[16:13] <Beyecixramd> amaurea: try to reboot
[16:13] <obcecado> i have dual view output, but i want to swap the monitor numbering
[16:13] <amaurea> Beyecixramd: I have tried that. No change
[16:13] <Beyecixramd> ubydoobydo: FUD... it's completely safe
[16:14] <amaurea> Beyecixramd: nm-applet is running according to ps
[16:14] <Beyecixramd> amaurea: killall nm-applet
[16:14] <taisa> Is it possible to optimize the filesystem during the boot fsck with "fsck -D"? "/fsckoptions" file ?
[16:14] <Beyecixramd> then run it again
[16:14] <Beyecixramd> taisa: define "optimize"
[16:14] <ubydoobydo> bey then why does ubuntu.com tell me its not?
[16:14] <Beyecixramd> taisa: if you want to defragment... you don't need it
[16:14] <Beyecixramd> ubydoobydo: FUD...
[16:14] <anodesni> amaurea, try  sudo /etc/init.d/dbus start,
[16:15] <taisa> like "fsck -D"
[16:15] <anodesni> amaurea, and try to run "ck-launch-session"
[16:15] <anodesni> amaurea, then run nm-applet again
[16:15] <amaurea> Beyecixramd: I killed nm-applet and then started it manually. It seems to be running, but it does not appear on the panel. It outputs ** (nm-applet:3075): DEBUG: foo_client_state_changed_cb
[16:15] <amaurea> anodesni: Ok, will try
[16:16] <ubydoobydo> what is fud man?
[16:16] <anodesni> ubydoobydo, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt
[16:16] <amaurea> anodesni: dbus is already running, so I guess I should stop it first
[16:16] <anodesni> amaurea, no
[16:16] <ubydoobydo> ahahaha
[16:17] <anodesni> amaurea, actually, I have that message too, for me it works. There should be something else wrong
[16:17] <amaurea> anodesni: but basically, nm-applet seems to be working perfectly, except that it doesn't appear in the panel
[16:17] <anodesni> amaurea, did you remove the notification area?
[16:18] <amaurea> anodesni: I haven't done that on purpose, at least. but perhaps that also disappeared after the package updates
[16:18] <anodesni> amaurea, try if you can add it again
[16:18] <Drognan> Whats a good way to change the nice level of a service at bootup automatically?
[16:19] <amaurea> anodesni: that did it. Thanks!
[16:19] <anodesni> amaurea, of course I should have asked first
[16:20] <taisa> Beyecixramd: "e2fsck -D" -> Optimize directories in  filesystem by reindexing or sorting and compressing
[16:21] <anodesni> Does anybody here managed to get vsynced video with the ati catalyst/fglrx driver with a R700 card?
[16:21] <Beyecixramd> taisa: that's not defragmenting
[16:22] <anodesni> without compiling mplayer-vaapi
[16:22] <sipior> Drognan: you can specify the nice value as part of the service's init file. see "man 5 init" for details.
[16:22] <Drognan> thx
[16:22] <Ascavasaion>  Did an update on 10.04 and now the Gnome network manager applet is gone.  Sigh  Any ideas how to get it back?  I need it to swap between different network setting at home and at work.
[16:23] <anodesni> Ascavasaion, try adding the notification area
[16:23] <taisa> Beyecixramd: I know, i didnt want to defrag. I copied many GBs to my harddisk and now My Ubuntu seams rather slow.
[16:23] <Ascavasaion> anodesni: How?
[16:23] <Beyecixramd> taisa: do that, then :)
[16:23] <anodesni> Ascavasaion, right click on an empty space on the gnome panel, choose add to panel, then select the notification area and drag it to the panel
[16:24] <Ascavasaion> anodesni: It is there
[16:24] <joshua_roberts> Dr_Willis: from asking in #nvidia it seems that Xinerama does not currently support two Xscreens running twinview.  The driver has no way of telling the window manager where the screens are.  At least that is the theory
[16:24] <Ascavasaion> anodesni: I right clicked and chose about, and it says it is the Notification Area
[16:24] <funkyweasel> Lo, back again one last time with alternate-cd install issues.
[16:24] <anodesni> Ascavasaion, try "killall gnome-panel", or alt+f2 and then "nm-applet"
[16:24] <Worms> !wanda
[16:25] <taisa> Beyecixramd: But how can I do that? "/home" is encoded and needs to be unounted when using e2fsck.
[16:25] <funkyweasel> The official help page says that after burning the alternative-cd iso and putting it in the drive you should be able to run 'gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade'.  This file does not exist.  Can someone please help?
[16:25] <Sam_Fisher> I created a second USER account for my gf and gave her admin but so much stuff fails to load it just doesn't work.
[16:26] <ikonia> funkyweasel: make sure it's mounted
[16:26] <Worms> How do you add wanda the fish? Ok I forgot the command/package name
[16:26] <Ascavasaion> anodesni: I did the killall gnome panel from a terminal and the panel reappeared on its own and the network monitor is there :)  thanks a stack.
[16:26] <Gastineau> My mouse keeps freezing on startup of lucid, only way to stop it is to alt f2 and start a program like firefox... it then comes back and never freezes again, just started doing this.... any ideas?
[16:26] <ikonia> Sam_Fisher: explain on that please ?
[16:26] <somethinginteres> hi all, I am a major newbie to everything Ubuntu so please bare with me. To start of with the basics when watching a .vob in totem or even vlc the edges of walls look jagged - playing the file on Windows does not have this problem.. any ideas at all? Thanks
[16:26] <ikonia> somethinginteres: look in  http://help.ubuntu.com and look at the video codecs and dvd playing info, make sure you have the right stuff installed and configured
[16:26] <funkyweasel> ikonia: I can see it on the desktop, when I explore it I see no "/cdrom/cdromupgrade" file/path.  Is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD out of date?
[16:26] <anodesni> Ascavasaion, that's a bug, I have it too. Sometimes it just disappears. You can add a launcher on the panel that runs "killall gnome-panel"
[16:27] <andruk> whats the command to force emacs to use a major mode?
[16:27] <anodesni> Ascavasaion, then when it happens again, just click the launcher
[16:27] <Sam_Fisher> wifi struggles to load and asks for already given wpa key and then hangs on hitting ENTER
[16:27] <Ascavasaion> anodesni: Brilliant, thank you.
[16:27] <Sam_Fisher> in general it hangs a lot
[16:28] <ikonia> funkyweasel: open a terminal and do "ls -la /cdrom/
[16:28] <somethinginteres> will do ikonia. Just FYI this is a vob on my hard disk not on a DVD - playing the DVD it looks fine
[16:28] <ikonia> funkyweasel: sorry "ls -la /cdrom"
[16:28] <ikonia> Sam_Fisher: just on her user
[16:28] <Sam_Fisher> ikonia,  wifi struggles to load and asks for already given wpa key and then hangs on hitting ENTER
[16:28] <ikonia> somethinginteres: understood
[16:28] <Worms> !fortune
[16:28] <Sam_Fisher> ikonia, yes
[16:28] <ikonia> Sam_Fisher: try creating a 3rd user and compare
[16:29] <funkyweasel> ikonia: I'm concerned that no-one I have asked has managed a successful upgrade from karmic to lucid using the alternative-cd
[16:29] <ikonia> Sam_Fisher: how are you creating the user for her ?
[16:29] <ikonia> funkyweasel: I've done it
[16:29] <Gastineau>  My mouse keeps freezing on startup of lucid, only way to stop it is to alt f2 and start a program like firefox... it then comes back and never freezes again, just started doing this.... any ideas?
[16:29] <Sam_Fisher> ikonia, USERS and GROUPS
[16:29] <ikonia> Sam_Fisher: cool, sounds right
[16:29] <cheery> I followed some old instructions about installing nvidia drivers, I ended up with a broken system.
[16:30] <Sam_Fisher> Gastineau, do you have Gnome DO installed?
[16:30] <funkyweasel> ikonia: Is see a file list, but no 'cdromupgrade'.  I've confirmed that it is 10.04 i386 alternative cd.
[16:30] <rascal999> i have virtual users connecting to ftp server (mysql), and i have all ftp user dir's under /srv/www
[16:30] <ikonia> cheery: why did you not use the current nvidia drivers from the software driver tool
[16:30] <ikonia> funkyweasel: can you pastebin it please ?
[16:30] <Worms> !fortune-mod
[16:30] <cheery> ikonia: I want to install drivers that support opencl
[16:30] <ikonia> rascal999: mysql is not an ftp server
[16:30] <klaxian> any ideas why my SSH key is not loaded into the gnome agent when i log in or saved between sessions?  ssh-add works as expected though
[16:30] <rascal999> i made a new group called ftpusers which own all of /srv/www, and i've assigned uid of everything in /srv/www to nobody, is this correct?
[16:30] <ikonia> cheery: the current ubuntu packaged ones should
[16:30] <funkyweasel> pastebin
[16:30] <funkyweasel> ~pastebin
[16:30] <ikonia> !pastebin | funkyweasel
[16:30] <Sam_Fisher> ikonia, she didn't have Admin at first so I figured she needed it to set up certain programs and it seemed to help but now it just freezes on something
[16:31] <rascal999> ikonia: ftp auth done via mysql db
[16:31] <cheery> ikonia: oh. then I just wasted my time. but then I should get this system fixed and back up. I removed noveau drivers.
[16:31] <duffydack> If my boot time takes too long, like when running a fsck on boot for example, my wifi doesnt connect, doesnt even enable, I have to /etc/init.d/networking restart.  I have static ip setup in interfaces file, its the same with NM.  Anyone know what it is I can fix?
[16:31] <ev217twq7> ok, i have been solve problem with /quit
[16:31] <ikonia> Sam_Fisher: try creating a 3rd user to compare
[16:31] <funkyweasel> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/452972/
[16:31] <ikonia> funkyweasel: that's not the alternative cd
[16:32] <ikonia> funkyweasel: that looks like the desktop
[16:32] <funkyweasel> ikonia: What is it?
[16:32] <klaxian> my ssh key isn't being automatically loaded into the gnome agent.  ssh-add works normally.  can anyone help?
[16:32] <funkyweasel> ikonia: Aggravating.
[16:32] <ikonia> funkyweasel: it looks like the desktop cd
[16:32] <cheery> how do I use this CD to install packages into already installed system?
[16:32] <ikonia> funkyweasel: not %100 certain, but that's what it looks like
[16:32] <funkyweasel> ikonia: Makes sense.
[16:32] <somethinginteres> ikonia I can confirm based on the documentation I have all the right packages for DVD playback and the section on playing media checks out with me as well
[16:32] <ikonia> somethinginteres: how odd/frustrating
[16:33] <ikonia> cheery: system->administration->softrware sources - tick the box that sasys "cdrom"
[16:33] <roberto_> ola
[16:33] <roberto_> ola
[16:33] <cheery> ikonia: you misunderstood the problem.
[16:33] <ikonia> rascal999: you said that
[16:33] <ikonia> oops
[16:33] <ikonia> oh my word, apologies Rothos Rothos
[16:33] <ikonia> Rothos: you said that
[16:33] <FloodBot3> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:33] <Sam_Fisher> ikonia, desktop user or admin?
[16:34] <ikonia> Sam_Fisher: doesn't really matter, but try to remain consistant with your test
[16:34] <cheery> ikonia: I got my system into so bad condition it refuses to restart without liveCD
[16:34] <ikonia> cheery: then you need to work through the boot issues to work out what's gone wrong
[16:34] <cheery> ikonia: the trouble is in display drivers.
[16:34] <ikonia> cheery: ok - so you need to back them out
[16:35] <foobarbecue> Ok, I just slipped with the mouse in Nautilus, and I think I moved some folder into some other folder by accident, but I don't know which it was from or two. Is there some record of what I did?
[16:35] <foobarbecue> *too, not two
[16:35] <foobarbecue> arg! to!
[16:35] <cheery> ikonia: how? It's not perceptible how to run ubuntu without starting X11
[16:35] <somethinginteres> ikonia: yeah it is very strange it seems to be a gstreamer issue b/c of the same issue between players it's hard to explain the visual artefacts showing up and even stranger when I take a screenshot in totem it does not show any oddities
[16:35] <ikonia> foobarbecue: user nautlius to search by modified date
[16:35] <Sam_Fisher> ikonia, do i need to restart X or anything?
[16:35] <ikonia> cheery: work backwards through the instructions, although I think you'll become stuck at where the binary installer puts the file
[16:35] <ikonia> Sam_Fisher: nope
[16:36] <cheery> ikonia: I should first get into my system.
[16:36] <hilem> how do i add a startup daemon
[16:36] <Sam_Fisher> ikonia, what is the quickest way to log into the new account?
[16:36] <ikonia> somethinginteres: sounds like a thought through analysis
[16:36] <cheery> (without live CD that is.)
[16:36] <ikonia> cheery: works either way
[16:36] <ikonia> Sam_Fisher: user your gui like before
[16:36] <hilem> i want a service to run non-interactively on startup
[16:36] <Slart> !boot
[16:36] <ikonia> hilem: which service ?
[16:36] <hilem> memcached
[16:36] <ikonia> never used it
[16:36] <Slart> hilem: look through what ubottu said above
[16:37] <Gastineau> Sam_fisher: yes I have gnome installed
[16:37] <foobarbecue> ikonia: duh, thanks!
[16:37] <hilem> does it make a difference if update-rc.d is not on the system?
[16:37] <idul> need help setting up minicom to talk to a usb serial device that im trying to install gnu/linux on. the device is on ttyusb0 and i have told minicom to use that, but miicom status shows the connection as offline
[16:39] <ikonia> hilem: update-rc.d must be on the system,
[16:39] <ikonia> hilem: it's on all ubuntu systems
[16:39] <rascal999> ikonia: I have virtual users auth'ing via mysql
[16:39] <cheery> Slart: from the 9.10 ubuntu haven't shown me the grub loading -stage since.
[16:39] <hilem> oh
[16:39] <ikonia> rascal999: yup, I read that
[16:39] <Slart> cheery: huh?
[16:39] <hilem> i assumed it would be with the other rc files
[16:40] <cheery> Slart: OH.
[16:40] <hilem> is rc.local run by a specific user or all users?
[16:40] <cheery> it's SHIFT now.
[16:40] <ikonia> hilem: all
[16:40] <rascal999> ikonia: so having /srv/www owned by group ftpusers and owned by user nobody is an acceptable setup?
[16:40] <hilem> ikonia: ok good thanks!
[16:40] <cheery> okay, I'll try ti
[16:40] <ikonia> rascal999: depends how your user (unix - not mysql) setup is, is the ftpservice run by the user "nobody" ?
[16:41] <ubydoobydo> i'm seeding to 3 of 5 people ubu version 10 xD
[16:41] <funkyweasel> Argh.  More problems with alternative-cd upgrade!
[16:41] <funkyweasel> ~pastebin
[16:41] <ikonia> ubydoobydo: thats great, but try to keep in mind this is a support channel only
[16:41] <ubydoobydo> no way?
[16:41] <ikonia> !pastebin | funkyweasel
[16:41] <ubydoobydo> i'm about to install alt-10 too
[16:41] <New2Ubuntu> hi all
[16:41] <ubydoobydo> ubuntu 10 right funk?
[16:42] <ubydoobydo> hi !
[16:42] <ubydoobydo> xD
[16:42] <funkyweasel> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/452977/
[16:42] <New2Ubuntu> need help to control my bandwidth usage
[16:42] <ikonia> funkyweasel: just looking
[16:43] <ubydoobydo> and my question was how can i open up more conections for the other people?
[16:43] <rascal999> ikonia: no
[16:43] <Murdoch5> I'm trying to use lucid with PXE, I have it booting till it kernel panics, what I'm tryiong to figure out is the root option I've tried /dev/rd/0, /dev/sr0 and /dev/ram0 and they call VFS panix
[16:43] <rascal999> ikonia: how do i check which user is running it?
[16:43] <Murdoch5> what do I give the default config for a root device
[16:43] <funkyweasel> ikonia: I disabled all other software sources other than the cd because I want to do a local upgrade, then pick up what I need afterwards.
[16:43] <ikonia> rascal999: look in the config file
[16:44] <rascal999> ikonia: pure-ftpd does not have one
[16:44] <ikonia> funkyweasel: yup, I see what you're sayinig, however it appears to be struggling to read the source file
[16:44] <ikonia> rascal999: yes it does
[16:44] <raven_> "AT" - how to execute ffplay? it does nothing instead of notify-send
[16:44] <rascal999> ikonia: it has files under /etc/pure-ftpd/conf
[16:44] <ikonia> rascal999: yes, so that's the config files
[16:44] <ubydoobydo> so what the nick name for altnernate version 10? lucid something?
[16:45] <rascal999> ikonia: it has nothing which specifies the user running it
[16:45] <ikonia> ubydoobydo: alternative has nothing to do with the nickname
[16:45] <sec-r1z> guys any ideas how to install scapy2 on Ubuntu 10.04 ??? :):)
[16:45] <ikonia> ubydoobydo: ubuntu 10.04 has desktop and alternative install CD's
[16:45] <ikonia> rascal999: it does
[16:45] <rascal999> ikonia: MinUID?
[16:45] <funkyweasel> ikonia: I mounted the correct ISO this time (*blush*).  But still no joy.  Is what I am trying even possible?  Or is lucid too new to reliably upgrade with alternative-cd?
[16:45] <ubydoobydo> so it wouldn't be scrappy lucid or something ?
[16:45] <raven_> "AT" - how to execute ffplay? it does nothing instead of notify-send
[16:45] <New2Ubuntu> again, how can i control my bandwidth speed
[16:45] <ikonia> rascal999: not got a config file to confirm
[16:46] <sec-r1z> ubydoobydo: no
[16:46] <ikonia> funkyweasel: it should work like a charm , just looking at it now for you
[16:46] <sec-r1z> i don't think
[16:46] <wise_crypt> New2Ubuntu: traffic shapping
[16:46] <funkyweasel> ikonia: Much appreciated.
[16:46] <JackStoner> pidgin crashes when i log in to yahoo...anyone else having this issue??
[16:46] <ikonia> rascal999: the configuration is in the mysql database
[16:47] <wad> JackStoner, people still use Pidgin? That's so last week.
[16:47] <jpds> wad: Not really.
[16:47] <taisa> Sorry, but I have a new question. How can I e2fsck an encoded partition? Thx
[16:47] <funkyweasel> wad: What do you use?
[16:47] <ikonia> rascal999: or so the documentation suggests, I've not got an install to check on
[16:47] <wise_crypt> New2Ubuntu: traffic shapping or just for wget its wide range of topic
[16:47] <JackStoner> wad what do u use?
[16:47] <sec-r1z> scapy2 on 10.04 ?????????????? any ideas ?
[16:47] <SlidingHorn> wad: a lot of people do...empathy doesn't cut it for a lot of people.
[16:47] <jpds> wise_crypt: Traffic shapping?
[16:47] <SlidingHorn> sorry to go OT...
[16:47] <JackStoner> empathy still has a long way to go
[16:48] <ikonia> funkyweasel: do a "sudo apt-get update" first
[16:48] <wad> Empathy 2.30.1
[16:48] <ubydoobydo> xD
[16:48] <JackStoner> wad does it support file sending to msn and yahoo???
[16:48] <funkyweasel> ikonia: Oh dear.  Again with the red face on my part.
[16:48] <ubydoobydo> i'm just getting around to burning one
[16:48] <ikonia> funkyweasel: no need for that, everyone makes mistakes
[16:48] <raven_> "AT" - how to execute ffplay? it does nothing instead of notify-send
[16:49] <somethinginteres> ikonia: I seem to have fixed the issue by setting Visual Effects to "None" I would've thought my PC could run Compiz and video I guess not
[16:49] <detrix42> I am having troubles with configuring my xorg.conf for nVidia.  nVidia's drivers are installed, I have edited my xorg.conf to include higher resolutions, but still no higher that 640x480.  What am I doing wrong???
[16:49] <raven_> "AT"-Tool - how to execute ffplay? it does nothing instead of notify-send
[16:49] <New2Ubuntu> wise_crypt: I have a windows network with Internet cafe my pc has ubuntu and if I download updates or anything it leaves nothing over for the windows computers
[16:49] <KiiK> open a program in the SHELL. I always see some broken text, 闡闡闡闡闡闡闡闡闡.........
[16:49] <JackStoner> can anyone help me with the pidgin crashes when i log in to yahoo??
[16:49] <funkyweasel> ikonia: Ah, hang on - I do allow it to use network mirrors, then force it to proceed using local resources.  Then, unless I miss my guess and it works this time, it will fail.
[16:49] <Ascavasaion> If my Gnome panel gets too cluttered... is there a way to make more space, besides the obvious of removing applets?
[16:50] <Cheery> huh
[16:50] <Cheery> at least now it's working well again
[16:50] <SlidingHorn> JackStoner: check out this comparison: http://www.workswithu.com/2009/09/15/pidgin-vs-empathy-feature-comparison/
[16:50] <JackStoner> Ascavasaion, i think there's a drawer applet where u can put some icons/shortcuts into
[16:50] <wad> JackStoner, I've never tried sending files to people on msn or yahoo, so I don't know. So far it seems pretty good for me, though.
[16:50] <wad> JackStoner, it came with Ubuntu 10.04, so I just used it out of the box.
[16:50] <JackStoner> wad that feature doesnt work on empathy
[16:50] <detrix42> !nvidia
[16:51] <wad> JackStoner, ah, okay. Good thing I never need to do that, then. :)
[16:51] <Ascavasaion> JackStoner: Aaaaah, yes... I remmeber seeing that applet on earlier versions of Ubuntu... thank you.
[16:51] <JackStoner> yw
[16:51] <raven_> "AT" - how to execute ffplay? it does nothing instead of notify-send
[16:51] <JackStoner> SlidingHorn, i still think i need to use pidgin, i need google talk for one
[16:52] <ikonia> somethinginteres: cool
[16:52] <SlidingHorn> JackStoner: wad: also, pidgin is highly expandable with plugins etc.  Empathy does not have a lot of them that some people find essential.
[16:53] <wad> SlidingHorn, makes sense. I'm not an IM power user. *shrug*
[16:53] <nixbox> i am trying to install ubuntu on a desktop machine, for some reason when i get to the partition step, it does not show me any entries there, i tried deleting the existing (gentoo) partitions, and rebooting into the installation disc, still the same
[16:53] <Ascavasaion> I personally prefer the feel of Pidjin over Empathy.
[16:53] <JackStoner> ya, thats why i use pidgin
[16:54] <funkyweasel> ikonia: Looks like what I am specifically trying to do is a known, unassigned bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/587411
[16:54] <pakair> 10.04 how do I install System | Admin | Services?
[16:54] <funkyweasel> ikonia: So looks like what I am trying to do is *not* possible :(
[16:54] <ikonia> funkyweasel: that's odd/disapointing
[16:55] <ikonia> I'm sure it is
[16:55] <ikonia> funkyweasel: he's using update manager
[16:55] <ikonia> funkyweasel: have you got any 3rd party packages in from outside the ubuntu repos ?
[16:55] <funkyweasel> ikonia: Isn't that what I am also using with cdrom/cdromupgrade though?
[16:56] <funkyweasel> ikonia: I do, but I have removed all other repos including the ubuntu repos except for the alternative-cd iso.
[16:56] <ikonia> funkyweasel: that maybe the problem, if those packages conflict with the upgrade packages (failed dependencies etc)
[16:57] <ikonia> funkyweasel: it may not though
[16:57] <akshay> how to enable ati graphics card
[16:57] <erUSUL> !ati > akshay
[16:57] <New2Ubuntu> ubuntu is greedy on windows network leaves not bandwidth for windows users, good for me bad for windows users
[16:57] <JackStoner> can anyone help me wit pidgin crashing???
[16:57] <ikonia> New2Ubuntu: you're mistaken, it's only as heavey as the functions you tell is to do
[16:58] <funkyweasel> ikonia: I could try enabling all the repos again.  I've spent so long on this that it's nearly time to close the office, so if it does end up using the network (and COMPLETELY invalidating the point of the exercise) then fair enough.
[16:58] <jpds> JackStoner: Try running it in debug mode (pidgin -d in a terminal) and see where it's crashing?
[16:58] <funkyweasel> ikonia: But having non-standard software is enough to break a non-networked upgrade?  That's extremely poor.
[16:58] <SlidingHorn> JackStoner: what are you doing when it crashes?  what (if any) error messages are given? --hint: start it from a terminal to get error msgs: pidgin -d
[16:58] <ikonia> funkyweasel: not really - ubuntu developers can't be responsible for compatability with external software
[16:59] <funkyweasel> ikonia: Absolutely.  But there's no way of ignoring those dependancies for an upgrade run?
[16:59] <ikonia> funkyweasel: if I develop a bit of software that can only user glibc 2.5 only, and ubuntu wants to upgrade it to 2.6 - it can't, so that's not the ubuntu developers fault, that's yours for putting software on
[16:59] <ikonia> funkyweasel: I'm sure there are command options to ignore dependencies
[16:59] <akshay> erusul> can u help me
[16:59] <JackStoner> SlidingHorn, jpds it crashes only when i try to login my yahoo account
[16:59] <erUSUL> akshay: System>Administration>hardware drivers
[16:59] <roberto_mu> what would I need to type at the bootloader to force it to boot to a specific kernel and disk?
[16:59] <SlidingHorn> funkyweasel: apt-get -f install
[16:59] <funkyweasel> ikonia: Fair enough.  tbh though it's become a failed exercise for me because I've spent too long on it.
[17:00] <jpds> JackStoner: And the terminal says?
[17:00] <roberto_mu> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-21-generic at hd1,1
[17:00] <New2Ubuntu> ikonia: i have 10 user network 9 windows 1 ubuntu if that one ubuntu start to download updates etc it leaves nothing for 9 windows uses can not even open google
[17:00] <akshay> erusu> yes
[17:00] <akshay> erusul> no drivers
[17:00] <zacharysmith> hi just installed ubuntu. however it's not searching for any wifi???
[17:00] <guntbert> New2Ubuntu: is the ubuntu machine the router for the others?
[17:00] <zacharysmith> is it my laptop wifi card not compatible with u?
[17:01] <ikonia> New2Ubuntu: how is that ubuntu's fault ? you're telling it to download updates using as much bandwidth as possible, you're meant to control your network at the network layer
[17:01] <erUSUL> akshay: what ati card do you have? what chip revision ? « lspci | grep -i vga »
[17:01] <New2Ubuntu> guntbert: nope have adsl router lynksys
[17:01] <funkyweasel> ikonia: In fairness I've watched New2 try to ask for a while how to throttle his own bandwidth.
[17:01] <ikonia> funkyweasel: yes, but blaming ubuntu for that is wrong
[17:02] <akshay> erusul>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon X2300
[17:02] <zacharysmith> i appreciate any help
[17:02] <ikonia> !qos | New2Ubuntu
[17:02] <New2Ubuntu> ikonia: no not ubuntu fault Microsoft fault ubuntu fast ubuntu user happy 9 windows users want to kill ubuntu user need to control bandwidth on ubuntu not to be killed
[17:02] <erUSUL> akshay: then you will have to use the free radeon/radeonhd drivers ( you probably are already doing so )
[17:02] <kop> it's raining here and it's ubuntu's fault . prove otherwise !
[17:02] <funkyweasel> ikonia: Blame isn't so important - I am looking for a solution.  If there is not one to my current circumstances I must either find a new solution or change circumstances.
[17:03] <akshay> erusul> i dont know....im not able to figure it out
[17:03] <ikonia> funkyweasel: I wasn't talking about you passing blame
[17:03] <akshay> erusul> tell me what to do
[17:03] <duffydack> "trickle" is a throttling tool isnt it
[17:04] <erUSUL> akshay: what problems are you having with the current drivers? no 3D ? low resolution ?
[17:04] <New2Ubuntu> ikonia: what does !qos mean
[17:04] <wifig> really?
[17:04] <akshay> erusul> low resolution
[17:04] <Cheery> okay. If I try the recommended drivers, my system starts up but there's no display signal
[17:05] <augdawg> is there like a task manager type thing for ubuntu?
[17:05] <augdawg> does anyone know?
[17:05] <Daekdroom> augdawg, gnome-system-monitor
[17:05] <erUSUL> akshay: you can not change iot  in System>Preferences>Display ?
[17:05] <iceroot> augdawg: top
[17:05] <ikonia> !quos
[17:05] <bricky> hey is there anything like 'windows media center' for linux
[17:05] <ikonia> !qos
[17:05] <augdawg> okay thanks!
[17:05] <wifig> does lucid support wifi g?
[17:05] <raven_> "AT" - how to execute ffplay? it does nothing instead of notify-send
[17:05] <augdawg> wai, thats jsut the standard system monitor, right?
[17:05] <ikonia> New2Ubuntu: there is a technique called "qos" I was looking for infomation for you, it's traffic shaping
[17:05] <iceroot> bricky: vlc, totem, amarok, mplayer
[17:05] <erUSUL> wifig: yes
[17:05] <Daekdroom> augdawg, yes
[17:05] <wifig> woo!
[17:05] <augdawg> thanks!
[17:06] <funkyweasel> ikonia: Okay, let's move past the blame bit then.  Solutions are what matters, yes?  I'm going to try switching back on the network repos, and try an upgrade from the alternative-cd ISO again.  *Hopefully* the upgrade will hit local resources first, then network.  :)  If not it's not too important at this point as the office closes in 30 mins and if it does ignore local preferences then it's all good.
[17:06] <Cheery> does noveau drivers still conflict with nvidia drivers?
[17:06] <denni1> just booted 2008 lts live CD I could find all my partitions under 'disk' in the terminal but where was disk itself located?
[17:06] <bricky> iceroot: thanks ,which one you prefer?
[17:06] <joaojeronimo> Is there a tool to manage certificates for Google Chrome ?
[17:06] <iceroot> bricky: vlc
  so ur wifi worked ?
[17:06] <bricky> iceroot: I meant like, windows metia center thingy
[17:06] <ikonia> Cheery: yes,
[17:06] <bricky> kuttan: almost :)
[17:07] <augdawg> just did it and it worked. thanks again!
[17:07] <bricky> kuttan: my modprobe is not working how it should
[17:07] <erUSUL> bricky: xbmc ; mythtv  ?
[17:07] <llutz> bricky: xbmc, mythtv
[17:07] <iceroot> bricky: because i dont like media center i use vlc :)
[17:07] <Cheery> ikonia: so I should uninstall noveau drivers from the system when installing the nvidia drivers?
[17:07] <New2Ubuntu> ikonia: have you heard about wondershaper or trickle?
[17:07] <edwinpino> home+
[17:07] <bricky> erUSUL, llutz: thanks
[17:07] <bricky> iceroot: me either :P
[17:07] <Cheery> funnily, on the last system I installed (175 version) -drivers and they worked well, but those do not support the newest features I want.
[17:07] <edwinpino> qiue nhabla colombiano
[17:07] <iceroot> bricky: ah ok, media center not media player
 Good to hear that & whats wrong with modprobe , cld u pls elaborate
[17:07] <erUSUL> !es | edwinpino
[17:07] <iceroot> bricky: myth, vdr, xmbc (i like mythtv most)
[17:07] <ikonia> New2Ubuntu: tickle yes
[17:07] <iceroot> bricky: there is also mythbuntu
[17:07] <theocrite_> ##ubuntu-lyon
[17:08] <bricky> kuttan: well, I could yes, its not letting me remove or install things, says ..
[17:09] <JackStoner> jpds, the output from the terminal is http://pastebin.com/vEzXKaAv
[17:10] <denni1> I mean I see my root partition on the File browser as / in the left column on the LiveCD but how do I get there in the terminal?
[17:10] <funkyweasel> ikonia: Yes, this is looking more promising - after expressing local mirror preference it's automatically disabled the external repos and moved past the previous point of failure.  Cheers for the help and insight.
[17:10] <erUSUL> denni1: cd /
[17:10] <ikonia> funkyweasel: no problem,
[17:10] <New2Ubuntu> ikonia: check out : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/use-bandwidth-shapers-wondershaper-or-trickle-to-limit-internet-connection-speed.html
[17:11] <funkyweasel> Signing off for upgrade.  o/
[17:11] <sebsebseb> Hi
[17:11] <JackStoner> jpds, the output from the terminal is http://pastebin.com/vEzXKaAv
[17:11] <JackStoner> SlidingHorn, http://pastebin.com/vEzXKaAv
[17:12] <denni1> cd / is not true, that brings me the root of the 2008LiveCD, not the / I see in the filebrowser.
[17:12] <dominicdinada> how to mount an external drive remotly normally I am logged in on the other machine but I had to restart it and what not so it is not automounted on reboot
[17:13] <Barti> caca
[17:13] <ikonia> ?
[17:13] <raven_> "AT" - how to execute ffplay? it does nothing instead of notify-send
[17:14] <piero> how do i mount iso image
[17:14] <piero> from a cdrom
[17:15] <denni1> isotone mounts images for you
[17:15] <Pascat> hello mass of people!
[17:16] <piero> how do i mount iso image from a cd
[17:16] <dominicdinada> mount /media/(devicename)
[17:16] <dominicdinada> !iso | piero
[17:16] <Pascat> I'm trying out Empathy, and the only feature that appears to be missing that I would really like is for a way to merge the same people (same people on different accounts) together...Is there a way to do that?
[17:16] <sebsebseb> Pascat: not sure, but as far as I know Pidgin can do it
[17:16] <Pascat> eh.
[17:17] <Pascat> So I guess Empathy is going away and Pidgin is coming in then.
[17:17] <sebsebseb> Pascat: why eh. ?
[17:17] <sebsebseb> Pascat: uhmm no
[17:17] <sebsebseb> Pidgin was the default before 9.10
[17:17] <sebsebseb> then Empathy became the default
[17:17] <shibby> hi @
[17:17] <Pascat> What I'm saying.
[17:17] <Pascat> Switching Empathy for Pidgin.
[17:17] <dominicdinada> mount: can't find /media/meinna in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[17:17] <dominicdinada> WTF
[17:17] <sebsebseb> however loads of us still use Pidgin, since Pidgin is great :)
[17:17] <duffydack> Pascat,  i miss metacontats too.......
[17:18] <sebsebseb> !pidgin
[17:18] <sebsebseb> !language | dominicdinada
[17:18] <downstream> there is some crosscommunication
[17:18] <denni1> you can use isotone to easy mount images temporary with a right mouseclick
[17:18] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: not a swear word :(
[17:18] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: yes it is here
[17:18] <downstream> pidgin can link to farsight2 at least
[17:18] <dominicdinada> what the filesystem
[17:19] <dominicdinada> ;)
[17:19] <Ahmuck> after installing 10.04, and then upating, and safe-upgrading, via aptitude, i get an error about openoffice.org.  the more troubling part is upon reboot, it hangs
[17:19] <sebsebseb> !rules | dominicdinada
[17:19] <shibby> #ubuntu-de
[17:19] <sebsebseb> uh thats odd
[17:19] <shibby> join #ubuntu-de
[17:19] <shibby> hmm
[17:19] <sebsebseb>  !rules does that weird
[17:19] <sebsebseb> !guidelines | dominicdinada
[17:19] <shibby> how it works?
[17:19] <shibby> !join #ubuntu-de
[17:20] <denni1> slash join
[17:20] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: ok enough with the spam please... A simple quick answer will suffice
[17:20] <ZykoticK9> shibby, "/join #ubuntu-de"
[17:20] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: #ubuntu is a no swearing channel, warnings, and then if you continue to do it, you may end up getting kicked or banned by ops
[17:20] <Pascat> sebsebseb: That command you used...it was a Language warning from the bot? O.o
[17:21] <JackStoner> 1nValid
[17:21] <sebsebseb> Pascat: yes, and theres one for guidelines and so on,   I thought !rules would do the guidlines one, but nope
[17:21] <erUSUL> !info devicekit-disks
[17:21] <sebsebseb> !bot | Pascat
[17:21] <sipior> sebsa
[17:21] <sipior> sebsebseb: try using a redirect, instead of a pipe, please.
[17:21] <dominicdinada> ya he was spamming me :( anyhow blah cant remount my external drives grrrr
[17:21] <sebsebseb> sipior: why?
[17:21] <dominicdinada> mount: can't find /media/meinna in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[17:22] <sipior> sebsebseb: so the rest of us don't need to read the same damned thing over and over whilst you play with the bot.
[17:22] <sebsebseb> sipior: I wasn't playing with the bot :)
[17:22] <dominicdinada> !language | sipior
[17:22] <dominicdinada> !guidelines | sipior
[17:22] <sipior> dominicdinada: i'm almost afraid to ask.
[17:23] <denni1> how do i start Text Editor with sudo privilages? (so it can save files I open from root)
[17:23] <sebsebseb> sipior: heh heh in a way @ dominicdinada and you, I guess :d
[17:23] <bastid_raZor> denni1: gksudo gedit
[17:23] <Cuervo> I custom compiled my kernel to be <IP_ADDRESS>, but my linux headers in /usr/include/linux are out of date, how can I update linux-libc-dev to my custom kernel version?
[17:23] <llutz> denni1: sudo nano file.txt
[17:24] <JonMelamut> ping
[17:24] <ikonia> yes ?
[17:24] <sipior> sebsebseb: dominicdinada: shush now, the grown-ups are talking.
[17:24] <detrix> I am still having problems with my nVidia config.  I have removed the nouveau driver, and installed proprietary drivers.  now all I get is 640x480.  I thought I knew how to change this.  I have done it on 9.10 Jaunty.  Need Help.......
[17:24] <dominicdinada> About the external drive ? no normally it automounts cause the desktop is logged in  but.... i had to shut her down and now i don't have access to the machine ATM. Wait is ATM a swear also ?
[17:24] <foxlover> I've a damaged CD disk and I want to know where in the CD surface the ddrescue doesn't read... I've the ddrescue log here with me. There is any software that show this info? Knowing this I can try to clean these surface points to try a full read of data. :)
[17:25] <Daekdroom> dominicdinada, acronyms and similars aren't good because not everyone know them.
[17:25] <darthvies> I can't record videos on youtube because it does not reginise my mic
[17:25] <sebsebseb> sipior: I am not a little kid, so lets get back on topic :), except right there is hardly anyone to help with Ubuntu that is typing stuff in here at the moment.
[17:25] <raven_> "AT" - how to execute ffplay? it does nothing instead of notify-send
[17:26] <dominicdinada> foxlover that sounds like a CD specific question, Not ubuntu. If is an ubuntu disk that is damaged burn another
[17:26] <wildbat> foxlover, scratches?
[17:26] <denni1> llutz: thanks, but then I would need to know how to get to the root shown in filebrowser. But terminal 'cd /' brings me to root of livecd2008
[17:26]  * Pascat trolls on sebsebseb! :) "Thanks for the help though. However, I would like to ask another question... Do you think Metacontact will ever be a part of Empathy?"
[17:26] <VCoolio> detrix: did you try with "gksudo nvidia-settings" ?
[17:26] <Alan502> Hi, would someone help me connecting to a network with a different interface than eth0? perhaps from the command line...
[17:26] <llutz> denni1: "mount" tells you where it is mounted
[17:26] <bastid_raZor> dominicdinada: read up on how to mount devices :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[17:27] <sebsebseb> Pascat: trolls on sebsebseb ?   Have you used Pidgin by the way?
[17:27] <dominicdinada> foxlover: The data surfice of the CD is the top part where the labeling is to answer your question!
[17:27] <llutz> denni1: then you use"sudo nano /mountpoint/path/file.txt"
[17:27] <foxlover> wildbat: Yeap, there's some scratches :|
[17:27] <dominicdinada> bastid_raZor: I did and resulted with this
[17:27] <Pascat> I have used Pidgin, but I have found its videoconferencing to be lacking in the past... whereas Empathy does it from the start.
[17:27] <dominicdinada> mount: can't find /media/meinna in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[17:27] <detrix> VCoolio, I did the nvidia-xconfig   that generated a new xorg.conf.   I will try the nvidia-settings...
[17:28] <llutz> dominicdinada: so check and fix your /etc/fstab
[17:28] <sebsebseb> Pascat: I guess most expereinced Ubuntu users, that are going to be using that type of program, are still using Pidgin :)  a lot of us don't like Empathy much
[17:28] <Rosebud_> hey guys, im trying to install mySql Server and i cant do it ... any help?
[17:28] <Krazyderek> anyone good with secure samba fileservers?
[17:28] <sebsebseb> Pascat: well you can use both programs :D
[17:28] <wildbat> foxlover, use some cooking oil and rub the surface, that may  help ~
[17:28] <ne7work> how to install flash on xubuntu x64 like !flash or?
[17:28] <Pascat> True true.
[17:28] <Pascat> or I could find if I can get Skype working... >.>
[17:28] <bastid_raZor> dominicdinada: how does ubuntu see your drive? /dev/something .. /media/meinna is the mountpoint .. the 2nd half of the equation
[17:28] <steffan> !flash | ne7work
[17:28] <ne7work> heloo all
[17:28] <darthvies> Is there an app that I can record my videos with sound on then ipload them to youtube?
[17:28] <Wavesonics> i have a win 7 recovery ISO that i need to burn to a USB stick, how can i do that inside Ubuntu?
[17:28] <ne7work> hello all
[17:29] <ne7work> steffan, like on ubuntu
[17:29] <foxlover> I ran ddrescue for 2 days in 2 drives...  I do believe there's a Linux version >.> unless I recall wrong.
[17:29] <sebsebseb> !mysql | Rosebud_
[17:29] <dominicdinada> bastid_raZor: it is an NTFS.... I took the cheater way and just logged in and let automount take over
[17:29] <kuttan> ok empathy sucks BIG BIG time..
[17:29] <MikeChelen> Wavesonics, oops brasero is for cds
[17:29] <akkan84> i use pidgin
[17:29] <bastid_raZor> !ntfs | dominicdinada read this then:
[17:30] <ne7work> steffan, i know this link like on ubuntu..
[17:30] <Wavesonics> sebsebseb, ya, i blew away the recover partition, but now my partition table or somethnig is effed
[17:30] <MikeChelen> kuttan, whats wrong with it?
[17:30] <steffan> ne7work: follow that link
[17:30] <Krazyderek> anyone good with secure samba fileservers?
[17:30] <sebsebseb> Wavesonics: right, but you said you have an ISO for Windows 7 (Vista version 2) ?
[17:30] <dominicdinada> bastid_raZor: Sigh I didnt ask how to set my fstab to auto mount the darn drive i asked how to mount it this second
[17:30] <ne7work> steffan, on ubuntu is the same method
[17:30] <foxlover> wildbat: Yeah, I'll try one of these alternatives: www.wisebread.com/quickly-removing-scratches-from-cds-and-dvds :P It's my last chance to recover the full data. :)
[17:30] <bjarni> Hi.  I have ubuntu 9.10 64 bit, gnome.   Some webpages take ages to download.   Pages seem to stop downloading in some cases for a good while before continuing.  Pressing reload often helps.  Applies to Chrome and Epiphany and did with Firefox before I threw it out.  I'm on wireless.  Direct connection is better but not good at all.  Can someone point me in the right direction here?
[17:31] <Cuervo> how do I install linux-libc-dev for kernel 2.6.34? on lucid?
[17:31] <dominicdinada> <~ will be installing vista SP2 from a thumb on a darn machine that went down :/
[17:31] <Wavesonics> sebsebseb, its an ISO, it's a Win7 recovery ISO
[17:31] <steffan> ne7work: yes
[17:31] <denni1> llutz: yes, I'm in! </voice of tv hacker>
[17:31] <kuttan> MikeChelan : as a long time user of unix not just linux .. UI is so not wrth it
[17:31] <steffan> !xubuntu | ne7work
[17:31] <sebsebseb> Wavesonics: right so burn it with Brasero or K3B
[17:31] <sebsebseb> Wavesonics: Brasero can go a bit odd, K3B :)
[17:31] <Wavesonics> sebsebseb, ok thanks
[17:31] <bastid_raZor> dominicdinada: if you had would have went to that page it has a section on how to 'manually' mount drives.. please follow the links and just not 'assume'
[17:31] <ne7work> steffan, okay
[17:31] <Krazyderek> @bjarni try going to the terminal and type ping google.com and see how your connection is
[17:31] <sebsebseb> Wavesonics: Brasero comes with Ubuntu
[17:32] <sebsebseb> Wavesonics: K3B is a KDE app, so will want to put on quite a bit of KDE stuff, however no problem as long as you didn't do a really silly partition size for Ubuntu.  Oh and Ubuntu and so on are designed to have many programs installed without issues, unlike Windows.
[17:33] <sebsebseb> Wavesonics: burn image to DVD,  I guess its DVD sized
[17:33] <dominicdinada> bastid_raZor: like i said before sudo mount /media/meinna resulted in the error bud
[17:33] <bjarni> Krazyderek: Seems ok.  No packet loss, below 70ms.
[17:33] <Wavesonics> sebsebseb, i dont see in barso an option to burn to a USB stick
[17:33] <bastid_raZor> dominicdinada: then you have not read any of that page.. your mount is missing /dev/somethinghere
[17:34] <sebsebseb> Wavesonics: oh to a USB stick?
[17:34] <Krazyderek> 70's is starting to get a little high
[17:34] <llutz> Wavesonics: you don't "burn" something to an usb-stick, just copy it
[17:34] <dominicdinada> bastid_raZor: it is showing up as /media/meinna :/
[17:34] <sebsebseb> Wavesonics: uhmm its Windows, I don't think you can even make a bootable USB stick of it, or not useually
[17:34] <sebsebseb> llutz: no
[17:34] <denni1> dominicdinada: why not google for isotone image mounting?
[17:34] <Wavesonics> sebsebseb, ya, the laptop im recovering doesnt have a optical drive
[17:34] <sebsebseb> llutz: its a Windows 7 ISO
[17:34] <Krazyderek> @bjarni is that on wireless?
[17:34] <bjarni> Krazyderek: yes
[17:34] <bastid_raZor> dominicdinada: so it is already mounted to /media/meinna ?
[17:34] <sebsebseb> Wavesonics: I don't think you can boot WIndows 7 from a USB stick,  well you can find out in ##windows
[17:34] <Krazyderek> yah
[17:34] <Wavesonics> llutz, i know its not tehcnically burning, was just saying that b.c its an ISO
[17:35] <Krazyderek> @bjarni try wired to see if it goes down
[17:35] <dominicdinada> denni1: i am not mounting iso's but thanks for the help
[17:35] <Xplor3r_> hi all
[17:35] <dominicdinada> bastid_raZor: apparently it is then but without access :(
[17:35] <Xplor3r_> anyone from romania?
[17:35] <sebsebseb> !ro | Xplor3r_
[17:35] <Xplor3r_> tnx
[17:36] <Alan502> Hi, would someone help me connecting to a network with a different interface than eth0? perhaps from the command line...
[17:36] <bastid_raZor> dominicdinada: type mount   .. does it say it is mounted read only or rw ?
[17:37] <dominicdinada> bastid_raZor: no it is not showing as mounted... And sorry today has started off bad backing up almost 400 gigs :(
[17:37] <sebsebseb> Wavesonics: maybe you don't even need Windows :D  depends on what you want to do on a computer
[17:38] <whlspacedude> Alan502: sudo ifup ethX        where x is the interface #
[17:38] <bastid_raZor> dominicdinada: please read that page on how to mount a drive. it will explain the steps you need to get the proper syntax for the mount command
[17:38] <Xplor3r_> does anybody knows why the 5.1 sound doesn´t work in 10.4?
[17:39] <SlidingHorn> !sound|xplor3r_
[17:40] <New2Ubuntu> good bye all
[17:40] <bjarni> Krazyderek: My beloved son left my cable at friends house.  Can't check it right now.  But I'm a bit far from Google.  Domestic ping around 16ms.
[17:40] <dominicdinada> bastid_raZor:  ok so am i mapping it right back to the /media/meinna ? mount /dev/sdb1 /media/meinna -o force
[17:41] <joshua_roberts> can anyone help me with cups?  I am trying to install a printer, but cups will not connect to localhost..
[17:41] <sebsebseb> !cups | joshua_roberts
[17:41] <Krazyderek> @bjarni is it just specific webpages that are slow to load or even one's with a good ping?
[17:41] <dominicdinada> bastid_raZor: /dev/sdb1 on /media/meinna type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=409                         6)
[17:41] <GH1234> Hey guys... I have a problem with pulseaudio. When I record with my internal or external mic it just stutters whereas arecord works like a charm. Does anyone have an idea how to debug such issues?
[17:42] <Az_> is this a silent chat
[17:42] <joshua_roberts> I know it is done with cups, but the printer management gui is tell me there is a cups error
[17:42] <timmillwood> Anyone run a lenovo x100e? Is it good?
[17:42] <sebsebseb> Az_: uhmm?
[17:42] <SlidingHorn> Az_: nope, it's an Ubuntu support channel for folks having issues with their ubuntu systems :)
[17:43] <bastid_raZor> dominicdinada: that shows you have /dev/sdb1 mounted in the directory /media/meina .. you should be able to read write to that directory now.
[17:44] <Beelsebob> Can anyone think why this might happen?
[17:44] <Beelsebob> http://paste.lisp.org/display/111687
[17:44] <Az_> ok
[17:44] <Beelsebob> nm clearly reports that the symbols exist
[17:44] <dominicdinada> bastid_raZor: correct :D like i said its been a morning from hell.... <boycotting windows vista today
[17:44] <Beelsebob> but for some reason the linker still can't find them
[17:44] <bastid_raZor> dominicdinada: best of luck :)
[17:45] <babalu> i have a file "dummy" containing a line *.scala and i would like to do something like "cat dummy | xargs kate" but that's not working because the star is not expanding; how can i fix that?
[17:46] <bjarni> Krazderek: Some pages are good.  Pages with alot of images are often bad.  Sometimes (too often) pages seem to choke on css.  Pages are displayed without formatting sometimes and pages with heavy css seem to be troublesome even if there are not many images.  I've tried to disable and remove flash completely with no effect
[17:47] <bjarni> That was for Krazyderek
[17:47] <jub369> is there someone on who knows bit about network shareing through ethernet that can help me?
[17:48] <joshua_roberts> cups will not connect to localhost  "CUPS server error there was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpconnectionEncrypt failed'."
[17:48] <megabraker> any tunsisian here?
[17:48] <megabraker> tunisian
[17:48] <raven_> "AT" - how to execute ffplay? it does nothing instead of notify-send
[17:48] <sebsebseb> !tu | megabraker
[17:48] <liminal> hello
[17:48] <sebsebseb> megabraker: there might be a channel for your language
[17:49] <sebsebseb> !english
[17:49] <liminal> does anyone here understand how ubuntu uses extended hard disk partitions?
[17:49] <megabraker> lol
[17:49] <megabraker> i konw english
[17:49] <jub369> no you dont
[17:49] <Pici> !loco | megabraker this may be more relevant then
[17:49] <jub369> you know slang english
[17:50] <Krazyderek> @bjarni have isolated the problem to the one machine on your local network to rule out your internet connection / router ?
[17:50] <sebsebseb> jub369: no you don't know what English they actsually know, but yes lol isn't real English,  thats Internet English
[17:50] <Pici> !ot
[17:51] <jub369> sebsebseb your right lol :P but ya know what i was getting to
[17:51] <liminal> I have 2 swap areas, one is in the extended part of the Harddisk, and the other is the primary
[17:51] <joshua_roberts> can anyone help me figure out why cups is not working?
[17:51] <denni1> lol is a Dutch word
[17:51] <liminal> is that normal?
[17:52] <Beleriton> Hello everyone, im trying to install ubuntu server 10.04 from a usb stick. A friend at work created the stick in windows with the universal usb installer v0.8. I have defined in Bios to boot from the USB stick and everything works like a charm. Im getting the install screen of ubuntu and starting the install. now i define my language and everything. BUT when the install is trying to get package content from "cd-rom" it fails. starts to get some of the
[17:52] <Beleriton> packages and then i get "there was a problem reading data from your cd-rom".  have anyone gotten this before ? i have also tried to manually define a boot disk from boot cmd line.
[17:52] <megabraker> sebsebseb irr min mo5i am not in a grammar class :/
[17:52] <sebsebseb> denni1: I think someone told me that before, anyway in dutch what does it mean? and yes a little off topic here
[17:52] <sebsebseb> megabraker: I didn't understand the first bit
[17:52] <steffan> !usb | Beleriton
[17:52] <steffan> Beleriton: did you look at this?
[17:53] <grunyan> Is there any quick wayy to remove the default keyring when conneting to wifi?
[17:53] <llutz> liminal: thats not normal and having 2 swap-partitions is pointless inmost cases. create one of the size you think you'll need, delete the other, create additional swap-files if you need more swap.
[17:53] <Beleriton> steffan: yes and i did try write this "install cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" and hit enter.
[17:53] <denni1> lol is equal to the word fun, but you can also verb it in Dutch, so usage would be pretty much the same.
[17:53] <sebsebseb> denni1: oh ok
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> liminal:  you can have sevarl differnt swap partitions all over the place. it dosent matter if they are primary or extended/logicals. linux dosent care. :) you can even have a swap file + swap partitions.
[17:54] <bjarni> Krazyderek: This machine is the only linux machine on the net.  I've experimented with all other machines shut down.  I have tried most suggestions to network tuning I've found (mru etc) in vain.  What troubles me is that it happens on all browser I've tried.  What's common to them?  Since reloading pages often helps I thought maybe it could be some cache problem.  Or - some problems loading from mediaservers?
[17:55] <god-mode> there is a debugger plugin for gedit?
[17:56] <gbillings> How do install NDISGTK from the Ubuntu 10.04 Live CD environment?
[17:56] <Krazyderek> @bjarni i doubt you'd have caching problems across multiple browsers... i've had problems with firefox not working with very specific pages unless i press reload multipl times but it was always limited to that browser
[17:56] <sipior> bjarni: how fast is your connection to name service? have you thought about running a local caching name server?
[17:56] <sebsebseb> gbillings: yes you can install ndiswrapper from the Live CD, not exactly sure how though
[17:57] <gbillings> sebsebseb: do you know how to add the Live CD as a Software source?
[17:57] <joshua_roberts> I am having a problem with cups:  cups will not connect to localhost  "CUPS server error there was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpconnectionEncrypt failed'."
[17:58] <jub369> can someone help me about changeing a password on internet shareing in ubuntu 9.10 its 10.0.0.num on shared pc i need it to be 192.168.2.num its pc to pc through ethernet cord and main pc has wireless
[17:58] <seanjohn> I just installed the 64-bit version, server edition, and it said installation was complete; it rebooted and seemed to boot but the hard drive light stayed active a little while then the screen turned itself off, as if DPMS told it to turn off.
[17:58] <seanjohn> i tried doing space and different keys to "wake it"
[17:59] <kermit> why is /proc/kcore only 1/4 of my RAM ?
[17:59] <seanjohn> i can't SEE anything kermit; openssh is not running
[17:59] <gbillings> sebsebseb: I have a Dell 1450 USB wireless that does **NOT** have out of box support in Ubuntu 10.04.
[18:00] <seanjohn> oh, i thought you said SEE that proc/kcore is 1/4
[18:00] <bjarni> Krazyderek, Sipior: dns is under 16ms away.  I think it is cached in the router but not sure
[18:00] <joshua_roberts> is there a chance that any one could help me figure out what is going on with my cups and why it won't connect to localhost?
[18:00] <gbillings> !repeat
[18:00] <sebsebseb> gbillings: I don't know if this is useful or not, but here you go https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[18:00] <seanjohn> gbillings:  it seemed that ubuntu supported my motherboard; it detected both of the onboard nics as separate, unlike centos, on a 680i
[18:01] <gbillings> seanjohn: what are u talking about?
[18:01] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts: hrm
[18:01] <seanjohn> gbillings:  you was talking about it not supporting your nic
[18:01] <gbillings> sebsebseb: i think ill just copy the .deb to a thumb drive and install it from there
[18:02] <sebsebseb> gbillings: yes native is the way to go, if you can do that :)
[18:02] <seanjohn> can someone help me fix the blank screen problem? FRESH install, first boot
[18:02] <sipior> bjarni: my guess is that your web access is slow because of repeated, slowly-resolved dns queries. i'd say have a go at setting up nscd, see if it doesn't alleviate the problem. if you happen to use google chrome, try out the timeline tool in the Developer toolbox that's included.
[18:02] <sebsebseb> seanjohn: black screen when exactly?
[18:02] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts: localhost?
[18:02] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts: which printer?
[18:02] <seanjohn> I just finished installing server edition
[18:02] <realubot> How do I set MIME info to a mail sent by ssmtp? I need to somehow input MIME character encoding into a mail sent by: echo "Subject: Title \n\n This is a meesage" | ssmtp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:02] <seanjohn> it booted but turned the screen off
[18:02] <sebsebseb> seanjohn: #ubuntu-server
[18:02] <realubot> How do I do it?
[18:02] <jub369> seanjohn is your pc  a 64bit computer
[18:02] <gbillings> seanjohn: i think im really confused i was trying to figure out how to install windows wireless drivers using NDISGTK. What are U talking about?!?!
[18:03] <bjarni> Sipior: This seems good advice.  I'll check on this - but I gotta run now.  I'll get back to you later if that's ok
[18:03] <sipior> bjarni: no trouble. good luck sorting it out.
[18:03] <joshua_roberts> I don't have any printers installed
[18:03] <joshua_roberts> I can't connect to the localhost CUPS server to install a printer
[18:03] <gbillings> sebsebseb: thanks good bye
[18:04] <Datz> ubuntu live CD has built in partitioner, where I can partion and install ubuntu with XP on same drive?
[18:04] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts: Any idea why not?
[18:04] <sebsebseb> Datz: uhmm   right so you got Ubuntu on there now, and want XP as well?
[18:04] <joshua_roberts> all I know is this  CUPS server error there was an error during the CUPS operation: 'httpconnectionEncrypt failed
[18:05] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts: which versin of Ubuntu?  also is this when your printer is connected to the computer or not?
[18:05] <jub369> can someone help me about changeing a password on internet shareing in ubuntu 9.10 its 10.0.0.num on shared pc i need it to be 192.168.2.num its pc to pc through ethernet cord and main pc has wireless
[18:05] <Beleriton> does someone have experience installing ubuntu from a usb stick ?
[18:05] <joshua_roberts> 9.10x64
[18:05] <Datz> sebsebseb: have XP, want ubuntu, but not wubi
[18:05] <sebsebseb> Datz: ok a partitioend install good :) a proper dual boot
[18:05] <SlidingHorn> !dualboot | Datz
[18:05] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts:  most printers are just well auto detected
[18:06] <joshua_roberts> both when it is connected and when it is not
[18:06] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts: or loads of them anyway
[18:06] <mohammedali> hi
[18:06] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts: anyway your on 9.10.  if you upgrade to 10.04,  your printer might just work, which printer is it?
[18:06] <joshua_roberts> my system does not detect that I have connected a printer
[18:06] <Krazyderek> @bjarni good luck
[18:06] <Datz> sebsebseb: thanks
[18:06] <mohammedali> what
[18:06] <mohammedali> no thanks
[18:06] <sebsebseb> !dualboot | Datz
[18:07] <sebsebseb> Datz: also having a seperate /home can be rather useful
[18:07] <joshua_roberts> I can't upgrade to 10.04 because their is a Noveau driver issue with my video card and other driver issues with my chipset
[18:07] <mohammedali> hi
[18:07] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts: which card?
[18:07] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts: what kind of issue?
[18:07] <guntbert> !hi | mohammedali
[18:07] <Datz> sebsebseb: yea.. because of ext4?
[18:07] <joshua_roberts> any nvidia card
[18:07] <sebsebseb> Datz: no
[18:07] <sebsebseb> Datz: so that if you want to re install Ubuntu, or distro hop, its easier
[18:07] <joshua_roberts> nvidia drivers will not load with 10.04 on my machine
[18:07] <Datz> sebsebseb: ah
[18:07] <sebsebseb> Datz: since your files  will still be there, and program user data
[18:07] <kop> jub369, ifconfig 192.168.2.xx (iface such as eth0) and restart the network
[18:08] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts: ah yes
[18:08] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts: indeed
[18:08] <Datz> so separate partion for home?
[18:08] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts: theres an issue when it comes to the propritary Nivida driver and Plymouth the boot up
[18:08] <sebsebseb> Datz: yes a good idea,  and easier to set it up when your going to install Ubuntu than after woulds, well I haven't set one up after an install
[18:08] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts: is that what you mean? where the boot up looks all well odd?
[18:08] <Krazyderek> silly question, i'm working on the samba config file i know # is used to comment out, but what about the ; symbol?
[18:09] <Datz> sebsebseb: ok, I'll look into that thanks
[18:09] <thune3> joshua_roberts: is cupsd running?
[18:09] <joshua_roberts> no, the default ubuntu drivers take over and I can't run nvidia-settings or anything else nvidia related
[18:09] <raven_> "AT" - how to execute ffplay? it does nothing instead of notify-send
[18:09] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts: no propritary driver to install in system > administration > hardware drivers?
[18:09] <sebsebseb> Datz: got a Live CD yet?
[18:09] <Datz> sebsebseb: downloading now
[18:10] <Datz> sebsebseb: then need to install burning software :P
[18:10] <sebsebseb> Datz: its pretty easy to set that kind of install up, for example 10GB for /  big seperate home and the swap space,  I have even guided people through setting up these kind of installs quite a lot of times
[18:10] <joshua_roberts> I don't see cupsd in the system monitor
[18:10] <guntbert> raven_: what do you mean with "AT" ?
[18:10] <sebsebseb> Datz: on Windows well I would recommend imgburn
[18:10] <PrestonConnors> Hello, I am iSCSI booting a Ubuntu 10.04 using gPXE and I am not able to bond eth0 and eth1 together using this method. Is there a workaround to bond interfaces that iscsistart has already configured?
[18:10] <Datz> thanks sebsebseb I'll grab it
[18:11] <cinnabar12> I installed Kubuntu desktop environment and didn't like it so I un-installed, now my bootloader is the kubuntu one instead of the ordinary ubuntu one, how do I get it back?
[18:11] <kop> joshua_roberts, ps ax | grep cupsd
[18:11] <sebsebseb> Datz: imgburn.com I belive the site is
[18:11] <thune3> joshua_roberts: for 9.10 try: sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart
[18:11] <raven_> guntbert, the tool
[18:11] <akkan84> i installed kernel 2.33.4 on my laptop with ssd, now i cant get rid of it
[18:11] <cinnabar12> I installed Kubuntu desktop environment and didn't like it so I un-installed, now my bootloader is the kubuntu one instead of the ordinary ubuntu one, how do I get it back?
[18:11] <joshua_roberts> http://pastebin.com/LyKeEhQe
[18:12] <guntbert> raven_: sorry, what tool?
[18:12] <SlidingHorn> cinnabar12: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[18:12] <raven_> guntbert, at
[18:12] <thune3> joshua_roberts: it's not running, this is likely the source of the error. (why it isn't running may be another error)
[18:12]  * Corevette789 is Away (Reason:Auto IdleAway after 15 minute(s)) (Since:) (Pager:on) (Logger:on) - Invincible
[18:12] <sebsebseb> Datz: also its a good idea to check your ISO before burning contents to CD and using,  not so easy to do on Windows though,  but you could even keep the ISO on Windows, and do in Ubuntu after.  However if your ISO then turns out to be bad,  you installed from a bad ISO.  Oh yeah and can also download from the torrent and use a torrent program to check the ISO :)
[18:12] <joshua_roberts> ok, so how do I start it?
[18:12] <sebsebseb> !md5sum > Datz
[18:13] <thune3> joshua_roberts: for 9.10 try: sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart
[18:13] <akkan84> cinnabar...uninstall kubuntu libraries
[18:13] <kop> joshua_roberts, just giving you another cmd line tool I believe yoy , cupsd isn't running ..
[18:13] <Corevette789> Woah
[18:13] <sebsebseb> !away > Corevette789
[18:13] <guntbert> raven_: ah, (linux is case sensitive :-)), what are you trying to do?
[18:13] <jcapinc> UBUNTU FREEZES: start ubuntu, mouse moves, clicks + keyboard is non responsive (except ctrl+F6,ctrl+F5 ect.)
[18:13] <jcapinc> any idea what this might be?
[18:14] <jcapinc> ubuntu 10.04 dell vostro 200
[18:14] <detrix> I am still having problems with my nVidia config.  I have removed the nouveau driver, and installed proprietary drivers.  now all I get is 640x480.  I thought I knew how to change this.  I have done it on 9.10 Jaunty.  Need Help.......
[18:14] <regeya> OK, here's something odd.  I have an openldap dir I snagged from a PPC debian machine and set up openldap to read the dir, to read the slapd.conf from that, everything seems to go OK EXCEPT when I do a search all I get in the logs is 'ldif_read_file: Permission denied for "/var/ldap/dc=dailyrepublicannews,dc=com.ldif"' now the weird thing is that everything in the /var/ldap folder is set to 0777
[18:14] <SlidingHorn> !res|detrix
[18:14] <sebsebseb> detrix: no jaunty is 9.04, and it does not have the nouveau driver by default
[18:14] <joshua_roberts> ok http://pastebin.com/H9xFGY6e
[18:14] <joshua_roberts> does that mean it is running now?
[18:15] <Pascat> the Indicator Aplet, I want to remove things from it (Chat and Mail) ... you guys have any idea?
[18:15] <akkan84> i am having problems with my ssd with a self built kernel....everything revert back on cold boot
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Pascat: indeed :)
[18:15] <thune3> joshua_roberts: yes
[18:15] <BedMan> joshua_roberts: yes :)
[18:15] <Krazyderek> does ; comment out a line just like # ?
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Pascat: in fact basically all the stuff in 10.04 on the top right panel, sucks really, except for the clock
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Pascat: you think the same?
[18:15] <Datz> thanks sebsebseb
[18:15] <Pascat> Pretty much.
[18:15] <joshua_roberts> do I need to add cups to my startup?
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Datz: if you come back once your on the CD
[18:15] <trism> Pascat: Chat is empathy, so you can uninstall that to remove Chat, and Mail is evolution, same with that
[18:15] <joshua_roberts> It should be there right?
[18:16] <Pascat> *nod*
[18:16] <sebsebseb> Datz: I mean in the next hour on the Live CD
[18:16] <Datz> sebsebseb: shouldn't firefox check hash after download with ubuntu server?
[18:16] <sebsebseb> Datz: I can guide you through doing the install with seperate /home  doesn't take much
[18:16] <thune3> joshua_roberts: make sure it all works now, and well figure out the startup thing.
[18:16] <sebsebseb> Datz: no Firefox don't do that
[18:16] <SlidingHorn> Pascat: trism: you cannot remove evolution without removing dependencies required by gnome (AFAIK) -- not sure how one would edit the indicator applet
[18:16] <detrix> sebsebseb, sorry, thats correct.  I was meaning that I managed to get my resolutions back under jaunty.  Under 10.04, I cant seem to do it.
[18:17] <Pascat> :/
[18:17] <jcapinc> anyone know why ubuntu would freeze on startup?  Mouse moves, and I can get to console through ctrl+F3-6, but other then that nothing happens.  cannot move windows, cannot open anything, nothing is responsive
[18:17] <regeya> I don't suppose anyone else here uses openldap with the ldif backend. :-}
[18:17] <trism> SlidingHorn: that is not true
[18:17] <sebsebseb> jcapinc: with a clean install?
[18:17] <ForestBear> hey guys rhythmbox's Control+W (close window) shortcut doesn't work, how come? Keyboard is fine, other shortcuts are fine, manually pressing the Close Window option works fine.
[18:17] <trism> SlidingHorn: removing evolution will only remove evolution evolution-couchdb evolution-exchange evolution-indicator evolution-plugins;
[18:17] <joshua_roberts> I plugged my usb printer in and it has been detected
[18:17] <sebsebseb> joshua_roberts: ok good :)
[18:18] <jcapinc> fairly clean, no special modifacations, newest nvidia driver, some applications installed, but the install is like 2 days old
[18:18] <SlidingHorn> trism: has that changed within the past couple releases?  I thought sure I remembered removing it (this was a long time ago, but...) and it took out a LOT of dependencies that really doomed my system for a while
[18:18] <babalu> i have a file "dummy" containing a line *.scala and i would like to do something like "cat dummy | xargs kate" but that's not working because the star is not expanding; how can i fix that?
[18:18] <x0x> hi bazhang
[18:18] <BedMan> jcapinc: what did you do most recently?
[18:18] <trism> SlidingHorn: Pascat although if you don't want to remove evolution, you can remove the file /usr/share/indicators/messages/applications/evolution which adds it to the indicator applet
[18:18] <Krazyderek> does ; comment out a line just like # ? anyone?
[18:18] <x0x> bazhang: sup ?
[18:18] <jcapinc> installled php5-xdebug
[18:18] <joshua_roberts> and the printer prints
[18:18] <jcapinc> lol
[18:19] <thune3> joshua_roberts: the easiest likely fix is to just reinstall cups "sudo apt-get install --reinstall cups"
[18:19] <joshua_roberts> so what about startup?
[18:19] <sipior> babalu: try using "eval"
[18:19] <sebsebseb> jcapinc: did you install a graphics card driver?
[18:19] <jcapinc> it is freezing in such an odd way, I really dont get it
[18:19] <SlidingHorn> Krazyderek: not sure what you're talking about...doesn't sound like Ubuntu though...
[18:19] <jcapinc> yes I did, several re-starts ago
[18:19] <sebsebseb> jcapinc: so you intalled a graphics card driver?
[18:19] <jcapinc> yes
[18:20] <sebsebseb> jcapinc: Nivida?
[18:20] <jcapinc> yes
[18:20] <sebsebseb> jcapinc: right ok
[18:20] <h00k> Krazyderek: it depends on what how whatever parses that config file reads it
[18:20] <sebsebseb> jcapinc: and when you boot up what happens exactly?
[18:20] <Krazyderek> @SlidingHorn it's in the smb.conf file for samba
[18:20] <sipior> babalu: have a look here, great resource: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[18:20] <seanjohn> can someone walk me through what to typed, at command prompt, to get openssh server going? I am walking blind here!
[18:20] <Krazyderek> @h00k it's in the smb.conf file for samba
[18:20] <jub369> hey is it ifconfig <IP_ADDRESS> eth0 to change my eth0 ip
[18:20] <jcapinc> starts seemingly normally, loads regular desktop, prompts for keyring password, then my mouse can move but no other input works, cannot type in password, cannot move window, no blinking curser
[18:20] <seanjohn> I THINK i'm logged in
[18:21] <Krazyderek> @h00k how do i find that out?
[18:21] <BreezyBlue> Hey Uh I forget the command to get a root terminal isnt it like SU -(something)
[18:21] <sebsebseb> jcapinc: so you log in and then that?
[18:21] <SlidingHorn> Krazyderek: You would get better answers in the #samba channel -- it's geared specifically toward samba
[18:21] <seanjohn> yes, breezy
[18:21] <jcapinc> there is no log in, I have it to log in automatically
[18:21] <seanjohn> I have never used ubuntu before but I was slick at getting root access by just trying "sudo passwd root" :)
[18:21] <BedMan> jub369: no - ifconfig eth0 inet <ipaddr> netmask <mask> broadcast <broadcast> up
[18:21] <sebsebseb> jcapinc: I don't know  could be some kind of xorg issue though
[18:21] <Krazyderek> @SlidingHorn duh!!! lol thanks
[18:22] <h00k> Krazyderek: If all of the other lines are commented using #, then it uses# to comment lines
[18:22] <trism> seanjohn: sudo apt-get install openssh-server; should install it and start the service
[18:22] <sebsebseb> !xorg | jcapinc
[18:22] <Buttons840> in 10.04 there is a package mit-scheme-doc which is the docs, but i cannot find mit-scheme; are only the docs in the repos?
[18:22] <Pascat> is there a better alternative to Gwibber for Facebook? o.o
[18:22] <whlspacedude> BreezyBlue: sudo su
[18:22] <sebsebseb> Pascat: oh you got the broken Facebook in Gwibber issue?
[18:22] <Krazyderek> @h00k it's half # and half ;
[18:22] <Pascat> Yeah
[18:22] <BreezyBlue> thanks bro
[18:22] <seanjohn> trism:  i selected that as a package to install
[18:22] <jcapinc> sebsebseb, I did that, it did not work
[18:22] <Krazyderek> i'm sure the samba guys might know better
[18:22] <sebsebseb> Pascat: KDE has something, but Gnome nah
[18:22] <Krazyderek> since it's the base file
[18:22] <Krazyderek> thanks
[18:22] <sebsebseb> Pascat: well I don't think there is anything
[18:22] <Pascat> K
[18:22] <seanjohn> I try to connect to the ip, trism, and it says "connection refused" which means it IS booted up
[18:22] <jcapinc> sebsebseb,  stopped and started several times same output
[18:22] <trism> seanjohn: it should start automatically at boot then, otherwise sudo service ssh start; will start it
[18:22] <sebsebseb> Pascat: so do you use Gwibber for anything else?
[18:23] <Pascat> Basically, all I want is something to keep track of Facebook events.
[18:23] <Jungli> bazhang: how are you ?
[18:23] <Pascat> I am on no other microblogging service.
[18:23] <sebsebseb> Pascat: without Gwibber on the me menu,  or being used for something else, its rather pointless really, may as well remove :D
[18:23] <babalu> i have a file "dummy" containing a line *.scala and i would like to do something like "cat dummy | xargs kate" but that's not working because the star is not expanding; how can i fix that? <- so basically i have to use 'eval' but for instance "cat dummy | xargs eval kate" doesn't work :/
[18:23] <jub369> BedMan is broadcast the gateway or DNS ?
[18:23] <sebsebseb> Pascat: and if you remove... :)
[18:24] <Buttons840> is there a package to install gnu scheme in ubuntu 10.04?
[18:24] <BreezyBlue> now that i am root how do i UN Sudo Su
[18:24] <sebsebseb> Pascat: features come back, that should really still be there :)
[18:24] <babalu> BreezyBlue: exit
[18:24] <BreezyBlue> thanks
[18:24] <Pascat> features?
[18:25] <sebsebseb> Pascat: yes
[18:25] <Pascat> Ok, restarting gnome... brb in 2 minutes!
[18:25] <sebsebseb> Pascat: auto shut down after a minute,  and the proper shut down screen, instead of silly do you really want to shut down or restart messages.  plus log out and shut down back in the system menu, where they are meant to be still really
[18:25] <SlidingHorn> Buttons840: do you mean the GNU Scheme interpreter?  sudo apt-get install guile-1.6
[18:25] <Pascat> btw, I tried Kubuntu...I liked everything -except- one thing: I hate the looks :/
[18:25] <sebsebseb> Pascat: yeah looks like Windows
[18:25] <sebsebseb> Pascat: by default
[18:26] <trism> Buttons840: it is there, tried sudo apt-get install mit-scheme; ?
[18:26] <sebsebseb> Pascat: then all geek to customize
[18:26] <Pascat> Gnome is really really easy to customize.
[18:26] <trism> Buttons840: it is odd that you would see the doc package and not the main package, since they are both in universe
[18:26] <sebsebseb> Pascat: indeed
[18:26] <Buttons840> SlidingHorn: probably, i think guile is what i want
[18:26] <Pascat> but not as powerful interface wise as Kubuntu...
[18:26] <sebsebseb> Pascat: re starting why?  with 10.04  Gnome isn't even how it should be, according to upstream I mean
[18:27] <sebsebseb> Pascat: easy enough to fix though
[18:27] <sebsebseb> Pascat: yes well Gnome Shell is coming
[18:27] <sebsebseb> Gnome 3
[18:27] <jcapinc> starts seemingly normally, loads regular desktop, prompts for keyring password, then my mouse can move but no other input works, cannot type in password, cannot move window, no blinking curser
[18:28] <Pascat> Prism?
[18:28] <sebsebseb> Pascat: and I like Gnome 2, since its nice and keep it simple stupid
[18:28] <Pascat> what the heck is Prism?
[18:28] <seanjohn> trism:  i have an idea that it may be that the frequency being sent to the monitor is out of range. The monitor shuts off and the light blinks faster than when it is sleeping
[18:28] <seanjohn> how do you change the frequency to 60hz
[18:29] <SlidingHorn> Pascat: it's a plugin for Firefox that lets you run pages (ie gmail) as "apps"
[18:29] <Pascat> ahh
[18:29] <KittyBoots> Hello, I just installed the new version of ubuntu, and I want to put the close minimize and maxamize buttns back on the right side of the window.  How do I do that?
[18:29] <SlidingHorn> pascat: chrome does it too I think
[18:29] <sebsebseb> !controls | KittyBoots
[18:29] <sebsebseb> KittyBoots: yay someone else who wants to do that :)
[18:29] <e518s> trying to figure out how to set default file permissions for a directory using ACLs. sed "setfacl -Rw d:u::rwx,d:g::rwx,d:o::r-x /path/mydir" to have files default to 775, but whenever someone adds a file, its 664. any ideas?
[18:29] <sebsebseb> KittyBoots: or use another theme
[18:29] <SlidingHorn> sebsebseb: I moved them...but then moved them back to the left again
[18:29] <joshua_roberts> If I wanted to add cups to ubuntu tweaks startup list what command would I use?
[18:30] <sebsebseb> KittyBoots: that isn't the default black, or the grey theme
[18:30] <Pascat> sebsebseb: I moved them back to the right side personally>.>
[18:30] <LogicalDash> KittyBoots, you just have to change the theme. Go to the Appearances app, in the System->Preferences menu.
[18:30] <sebsebseb> on the subject of themes, the brown look can be installed in 10.04 :)   and the older human theme is :)
[18:30] <Pascat> Plasma is KDE isn't it?
[18:31] <IdleOne> yes
[18:31] <seanjohn> alright, fine, no one experiences monitor problems with ubuntu to help; i'm going to centos
[18:31] <zamba> is it possible to go directly from hardy to lucid?
[18:31] <sebsebseb> zamba: yes
[18:31] <zamba> sebsebseb: just do-release-upgrade?
[18:31] <sebsebseb> zamba: however 8.04 really is still better in certain ways :)
[18:31] <ForestBear> hey guys rhythmbox's Control+W (close window) shortcut doesn't work, how come? Keyboard is fine, other shortcuts are fine, manually pressing the Close Window option works fine.
[18:31] <LogicalDash> seanjohn, feel free I guess, but you might just want to check the forums and wiki
[18:31] <zamba> sebsebseb: oh?
[18:32] <zamba> sebsebseb: not when it comes to packages
[18:32] <zamba> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[18:32] <zamba> No new release found
[18:32] <zamba> when i run 'do-release-upgrade'
[18:32] <sebsebseb> zamba: well you can use ppas or whatever to get later stuff,  plus soon  will even get a proper Firefox update from the repos
[18:32] <zamba> not going to run firefox
[18:32] <zamba> it's a server
[18:32] <IdleOne> zamba: Check Software sources and make sure you have LTS releases selected
[18:32] <sebsebseb> zamba: oh right a server
[18:32] <sebsebseb> zamba: well in that case yes upgrade
[18:32] <zamba> IdleOne: no GUI
[18:32] <joshua_roberts> If I wanted to add cups to ubuntu tweaks startup list what command would I use?
[18:32] <guntbert> zamba: there is #ubuntu-server too ...
[18:32] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | zamba
[18:33] <Viaax> hi for large screen netbook and Nvidia/ CUDA usage i should pick Dektop or netbook ( i own ION netbook with HD res screen)
[18:33] <LucidGuy> Confused.  I don't have a ftpd installed to my system yet when I connect via filezilla it connects just fine.  Is this sftp kicking in because I have openssh installd?
[18:33] <NullName> Help! my network manager in gnome is gone!  I went to startup programs, and it's listed.  When I try and type the command to start it in the terminal, it says its already loaded. Any ideas? Thanks!
[18:34] <sebsebseb> NullName: on the panel you mean?
[18:34] <KittyBoots> sebsebseb, ubottu, LogicalDash; Thanks Dudes!
[18:34] <SlidingHorn> NullName: right click the panel > Add to Panel > network manager
[18:34] <NullName> yes
[18:34] <sebsebseb> !thanks | KittyBoots
[18:34] <andrew-rv> uyj
[18:34] <Pascat> I removed the stuff, Chat and Mail are not gone from the Notifier Aplet :/
[18:34] <sebsebseb> NullName: or
[18:34] <sebsebseb> !panels | NullName
[18:34] <sebsebseb> KittyBoots: Your welcome :)
[18:34] <SlidingHorn> Pascat: dumb question, but did you log out/in?
[18:34] <NullName> SlidingHorn: network-manger isnt an option in "ad to panel"
[18:35] <NullName> thanks ubottu. wil try
[18:35] <Pascat> nope!
[18:35] <thune3> babalu: xargs doesn't do expansion, i saw this workaround somewhere: printf "'%s'\n" $(<dummy) | xargs kate
[18:35] <sebsebseb> !thanks | NullName
[18:35] <trism> Pascat: yeah, indicator-applet is odd like that, it will add new items as they are installed, but it will not remove items until it gets restarted (most of the time)
[18:36] <babalu> thune3: thanks a lot; someone also suggested: cat dummy |while read line; do eval kate $line;done
[18:37] <rikkimaru> is there a way to get gzip to NOT destroy the original file during decompression?
[18:37] <steffan> LucidGuy: that application supports SFTP so it might choose that
[18:37] <aguitel> i have ubuntu cd-rom ,how create iso image ?
[18:37] <SlidingHorn> rikkimaru: it shouldn't in the first place...what do you mean?
[18:37] <LjL> rikkimaru: yes, use -c
[18:37] <Pascat> I'm back and its fixed :D
[18:37] <ubu_ntu> If I want to install ubuntu onto my desktop (using wubi) which currently has vista on it...will it install along with vista and dual boot or will it erase vista?
[18:37] <Pascat> ...Chase is not gone yet?
[18:37] <sebsebseb> ubu_ntu: yes it will dual boot, but in the long run a proper partitioned install is better
[18:37] <sebsebseb> ubu_ntu: Wubi is ok for testing when it works
[18:38] <SlidingHorn> ubu_ntu: should be fine if you partition it correctly
[18:38] <steffan> ubu_ntu: it installs Ubuntu alongside your existing operating system
[18:38] <SlidingHorn> !dualboot | ubu_ntu
[18:38] <rikkimaru> LjL, works beautifully, thanks
[18:38] <sebsebseb> ubu_ntu: SlidingHorn  you don't set up partitions with Wubi
[18:38] <steffan> !wubi | ubu_ntu
[18:38] <guntbert> raven_: by default at runs only when called as root - please look into man at (I overlooked that three times)
[18:38] <ubu_ntu> ohhh
[18:38] <ubu_ntu>  ok
[18:38] <ubu_ntu> yes im using wbui
[18:38] <ubu_ntu> thank you
[18:38] <xabrx> Does anyone have a good alternativ to vino server? Vino is to laggy. Connecting from win7
[18:38] <FloodBot3> ubu_ntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:38] <steffan> ubu_ntu: aslong as you follow those guides you should be ready to go :-)
[18:38] <roberto_mu> anyone here speak french?
[18:39] <SlidingHorn> !fr | roberto_mu
[18:39] <sebsebseb> !fr | roberto_mu
[18:39] <SlidingHorn> sebsebseb: I win.  :-P
[18:39] <sebsebseb> !vnc > xabrx
[18:39] <sebsebseb> !freenx | xabrx
[18:39] <Pascat> I forgot one thing sebsebseb ...
[18:39] <roberto_mu> I mean, off-topic, do you guys speak french? can I send a private message to check my translation?
[18:40] <sebsebseb> !ot | roberto_mu
[18:40] <guntbert> roberto_mu: not here plase
[18:40] <Svartalf> xabrx: I'd have to reccomend it.  I'm using it on my server and elsewhere (ubuntu 9.04, 9.10,  and 10.4 right now...) and it works fine.
[18:40] <gimpy734> I'm getting kernel panics on a new system pointing toward xfsdatad according to /var/log/messages.  How do I tell if my RAID hardware, kernel, filesystem, or whatever else is causing it?
[18:40] <roberto_mu> yeah sorry -- I was trying to just ask a quick one-liner but its not turning out that way :P
[18:40] <LjL> roberto_mu: try ##francais
[18:41] <roberto_mu> LjL, ty
[18:41] <shivy> hhi everyone
[18:41] <steffan> !iso | aguitel
[18:41] <SlidingHorn> !hi | shivy
[18:41] <ubu_ntu> ok i already have my .iso file is there a way i can bypass this -.-
[18:41] <xabrx> Svartalf: you are using FreeNX ?
[18:41] <ubu_ntu> nevermind im good
[18:42] <Pascat> I use the Google Gadgets sidebar...I can get a lot of the stuff running there, don't have to have them embeded into Ubuntu >.>
[18:43] <biagidp> I have a file in my /etc/cron.d/ folder with the following line in it: */5 * * * * root /usr/bin/ruby /path/to/script.rb and it's  not working
[18:43] <Guest17230> guys, can anyone help me with helping saving a webpage with images to a doc or something?
[18:44] <gimpy734> I'm getting kernel panics on a new system pointing toward xfsdatad according to /var/log/messages.  How do I tell if my RAID hardware, kernel, filesystem, or whatever else is causing it?/help
[18:44] <Guest17230> help me with saving i mean* :)
[18:44] <biagidp> anyone got any idea why that's not running every five minutes?
[18:44] <daeda1us> hey there, ive got a tablet laptop that i'm looking to install ubuntu on. looking at the guide here, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1038949. would this how-to be affected by using a 64 bit version of the os?
[18:44] <darthvies> Can I run win98 using dosbox?
[18:44] <sebsebseb> darthvies: no
[18:44] <sebsebseb> darthvies: in a virtual machine yes
[18:45] <sebsebseb> !virtualbox  | darthvies
[18:45] <sebsebseb> darthvies: both versions are free as in price, the factoid means software freedom
[18:45] <sebsebseb> !freedom
[18:46] <unop> biagidp, tried debugging that?
[18:46] <daeda1us> i'll try again later :D~
[18:47] <biagidp> unop: debugging as in how? the script works when i run it manually and I've got a log file it produces that should contain a timestamp for every time it's run and it's not reflecting that it's being run by cron
[18:47] <johnpaul> I just got a computer with ubuntu on it....I plug in my SD memory card, but it will not read it....any ideas?
[18:47] <darthvies> I have used virtualbox before it did not work so well
[18:47] <unop> biagidp, change the command to.  /usr/bin/ruby /path/to/script.rb > /tmp/my.log 2>&1   # and then monitor /tmp/my.log
[18:49] <urlwallace> johnpaul it should show as a drive
[18:50] <aguitel> !MD5
[18:50] <anirvana> Whenever I reboot my ubuntu, I am not able to use wireless or mobile broadband, the drivers seem to vanish automatically! Please help :(
[18:50] <Kyle__> Hello.
[18:50] <Kyle__> Is anyone here using ubuntu to mount nfs4 using fsc (FS-Cache)?
[18:50] <elb0w> here is a fun question
[18:50] <elb0w> can I change gnome-terminal profile
[18:50] <elb0w> from shell
[18:50] <bricky> I installed kubuntu desktop on ubuntu and its screwed up, slow, fails to start :O
[18:52] <bricky> is there a way I can install kubuntu from terminal
[18:52] <bricky> to see it go in verbose
[18:52] <sine_> hi guys i want to free up some hard drive space from my full install ubuntu, say 10 gigs so that i can install xp and some xp specific software
[18:52] <sine_> what is the app that i need to use, is it gparted and can i use in via a usb stick my cddrive is broken
[18:52] <sebsebseb> bricky: yes sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:52] <sebsebseb> sine_: uhmm
[18:53] <NullName> sine: you want to install windows xp from a usb?
[18:53] <sebsebseb> sine_: if you put Windows on after Ubuntu, it will mess with Grub, and then only Windows will boot, and re installing Grub is a pain
[18:53] <Worms> bricky: hey i have both installed and it works fine
[18:53] <sebsebseb> sine_: if you have enough RAM, you can virtual machine Windows, and thats fine for most apps that aren't 3D
[18:53] <anirvana> Whenever I reboot my ubuntu, I am not able to use wireless or mobile broadband, the drivers seem to vanish automatically! Please help :(
[18:54] <Kyle__> sebsebseb: Not if you install it properly.
[18:54] <bricky> worms, my kubuntu lags like no tomorrow it tried to load up 'netbook' manager even though I told it to load regular kde
[18:54] <Kyle__> sebsebseb: And by properly, I mean in kvm/virtualbox/vmware.
[18:54] <sine_> no i have virtualbox thats not an option for what i want to do. ill just do a fresh install of both, windows first
[18:54] <sebsebseb> Kyle__: if Grub is on MBR,  Windows will go over the MBR
[18:54] <sebsebseb> sine_: what do you want to do?
[18:54] <bricky> and it asked me if I wanted to start up in GNU or KNU, I chose GNU and it starts in KDE.
[18:54] <NullName> anirvana: did you install a driver for your network adaptor, or does it automatically work when you turn on wireless?
[18:54] <Morgoth> hello
[18:54] <sebsebseb> sine_: there may be  good enough alternative apps :) they may work in Wine
[18:54] <bricky> someone wanna shed some light on that one? lol
[18:54] <sebsebseb> sine_: the ones you want to run
[18:54] <Worms> bricky: which did you choose the default desktop manager?
[18:54] <Morgoth> can you help me please ? it'll be quick
[18:55] <bricky> Worms: GNU
[18:55] <sebsebseb> !ask  | Morgoth
[18:55] <h00k> !help | Morgoth
[18:55] <bricky> worms: that's Gnome as far as I know.
[18:55] <Kyle__> So, anyone here using nfsv4 in Ubuntu at all?
[18:55] <sine_> ive been on ubuntu now for about 8 months, first time ive been able to fully migrate but over time there are some thing that i just cant run, like propellerheads Reason 4 music applications and also virtualdub and some other windows based apps
[18:55] <Morgoth> okey ! ;) Sorry if i make any mistake because i'm french
[18:55] <sebsebseb> Kyle__: whats that?
[18:55] <alket> How can i use apt-get to install all mono realted packages something like "apt-get install mono-*" to install all : monodevelop mono-gmcs mono-mcs ?
[18:55] <anirvana> NullName : I installed the driver just 2 hrs ago from synaptic, Then I used Mobile broadband for 2 hrs now when I rebooted my system ,It's not detecting my mobile device modem, same happens for wireless too!
[18:55] <bricky> what happens if I uninstall KDE and it tries to boot into KDE?
[18:55] <Kyle__> sebsebseb: nfsv4.  The fourth version of NFS :) Network-file-system.
[18:55] <sebsebseb> Morgoth: ok well there is also a #ubuntu-fr
[18:56] <sebsebseb> Kyle__: oh ok
[18:56] <bricky> could I just type 'gnome' or 'startx' in terminal and get it booting to gnome if thats the case
[18:56] <Morgoth> i just look for an image analyser who search the source of the image
[18:56] <sebsebseb> bricky: it will ask you which boot loader to do
[18:56] <sebsebseb> bricky: GDM or KDM
[18:56] <sebsebseb> bricky: KDM is better :)
[18:56] <Morgoth> which*
[18:56] <sebsebseb> bricky: boot loader, I mean log in screen
[18:56] <bricky> not on my pc sebseb :)
[18:56] <Worms> bricky: did you get any problems while installing? i installed it from command line.
[18:56] <Niccoli> Can anyone help me with a problem Im having with my vid card?
[18:56] <sebsebseb> bricky: not on your PC what?
[18:56] <bricky> sebseb: my system auto boots into Gnome
[18:56] <bricky> or.. well.. kde now.
[18:57] <NullName> anirvana: interesting I've never had that problem.  Is the package still installed in synaptic, or do you have to literally reinstall with synaptic every time you reboot?
[18:57] <Typh> Ever since I upgrade to Lucid, I regularly try to click on a titlebar and end up selecting a totally different window. What is going on? This has been on three seperate computers and the theme doesn't seem to be relevant.
[18:57] <sebsebseb> bricky: one will be default, but whichever log in screen you go for, you can boot in to the other from it
[18:57] <bricky> sebsebseb: KDE is puking on my pc for reason too bad I used to love kde so much ;(
[18:57] <sebsebseb> Typh: the buttons you mean on the left or?
[18:57] <anirvana> NullName : It's there installed in synaptic, but I don't have the wired internet now to do something! :(
[18:57] <Typh> no, the title bar
[18:57] <sebsebseb> bricky: well there are much more lite waight ones, such as Lubuntu/LXDE and Xubuntu/XFCE
[18:58] <sebsebseb> !lubuntu | bricky
[18:58] <bricky> sebsebseb: yeah but it auto boots into KDE I asked it to do GNU not KNU is that odd or what, now I removed KDE who knows what it will boot into, maybe crash
[18:58] <bricky> I dont get the login screen at first
[18:58] <BluesKaj> Kyle__, are you running server-edition ?
[18:58] <bricky> it crawls to start up skype on kde, and the compiz effects dont work
[18:58] <bricky> anyways thanks for the help my friend
[18:59] <sebsebseb> bricky: oh
[18:59] <sebsebseb> bricky: a boot up issue?
[18:59] <denni1> install gdm to get a login screen with desktop selection menu
[18:59] <sebsebseb> denni1: or KDM or LXDM or slim :D
[18:59] <bricky> sebsebseb: no its fine but I dont know we will see
[18:59] <raven_> "AT"-Tool - how to execute ffplay? it does nothing instead of notify-send
[18:59] <Worms> bricky: You may choose Gnome or KDE at login screen
[18:59] <bricky> I dont know why it booted up in KDE in the first place =[
[19:00] <sebsebseb> bricky: since you just isntalled kubuntu-desktop ?
[19:00] <bricky> Worms: Yeah but I uninstalled KDE lol, for now, going to re-install later
[19:00] <bricky> sebsebseb: yes
[19:01] <Worms> bricky: That is no problem. Just logoff and you get to choose the Gnome or KDE. It remembers what you last choose next time you booot up.
[19:01] <bricky> sebsebseb: I will install gnome netbook edition just to be safe it boots into gnome lol :)
[19:01] <abhi_nav> hi
[19:01] <bricky> Worms: really, okay that works
[19:01] <Niccoli> when you stick in a video card does ubuntu download the drivers right away (mines an ATI radeon 9200 family PRO edition). Because I dont think its running at the moment.
[19:01] <Worms> Or just remove auto logon feature. You get logon screen every time
[19:02] <bricky> Worms: ahh cool :)
[19:02] <johnpaul> I plug in my SD. but it doesn't show up as a drive...only drives I get are my hard drive and the Cd/DVD drive
[19:02] <Cheery> ookay
[19:03] <Cheery> If I install nvidia driver beyond version 173, I fail to start my X after that
[19:04] <denni1> plug out the usb cable and plug it in again (while sd card is still in reader)
[19:04] <sebsebseb> Cheery: the recommended in 173 yeah?
[19:04] <anirvana> Is there anyone else who can help me with mobile broadband driver problem? :(
[19:05] <sebsebseb> Cheery: go with the one that is recommended
[19:05] <BluesKaj> Niccoli, you could try to make the pci card the default in the bios , but just check if it's listed by doing lspci in the terminal , and connect your monitor to it .
[19:05] <bricky> Worms: Thanks I used mythbuntu to set that up
[19:05] <johnpaul> the sd card plugs directly into my computer
[19:05] <Cheery> sebsebseb: 173 is the old one.
[19:05] <Cheery> sebsebseb: recommended one doesn't work
[19:05] <Worms> bricky: Good. Enjoy
[19:05] <sebsebseb> Cheery: are you donig OpenGL 3D games for example or Compiz?
[19:05] <dim3000> How can I write to a usb (which is mounted readonly on /cdrom) when booting as a live cd from the usb
[19:05] <denni1> via an internal usb cable, yes that would be harder to unplug :-)
[19:06] <Cheery> sebsebseb: yes, hell no. + opencl over that
[19:06] <sebsebseb> Cheery: uhmm?  opencl?
[19:06] <johnpaul> lol dennil....sorry, i'm new to ubuntu and am completely lost!
[19:06] <abhi_nav> dim3000, you want to write what?
[19:06] <sebsebseb> Cheery: if you are not doing OpenGL games or Compiz, you don't really need a propritary Nivida driver installed
[19:07] <dim3000> abhi_nav: to the USB which is acting as a Live CD
[19:07] <Cheery> sebsebseb: are you serious?
[19:07] <sebsebseb> Cheery: yes
[19:07] <Cheery> next question: are you dumb?
[19:07] <Niccoli> BluesKaj, I entered it into the terminal and it apparently has my drivers, but its listed as a secondary card
[19:07] <sebsebseb> Cheery: Ok heres a question for you, have you just started trolling?
[19:08] <denni1> johnpaul: did you try plugging it in for a second time? some only pick up the second signal not all usb equipment is perfect,
[19:08] <Cheery> sebsebseb: realize this: people don't buy +100€ graphics hardware just to play solitaire.
[19:08] <detrix> how do I safely remove the nouveau video driver.  I have done the following:   apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau.  Its removed, but the X log says its still using it.
[19:08] <JJovereats> Excuse me, could I sat that I have the butterflies in the stomach after saying Yes to Upgrade. I did every precaution a desktop user would need to do, even backing up my 5-so GiB home folders total on to a 1TB (923GiB) HDD.
[19:08] <johnpaul> yeah, I've taken it out a couple of different times.  The light next to the slot doesn't come on though...maybe something inside is unplugged?
[19:08] <Cheery> sebsebseb: if I have bought an nvidia card with all fads around today, I'm going to use it.
[19:08] <JJovereats> sat XXX say
[19:08] <Slart> detrix: I think I blacklisted it on my system
[19:09] <abhi_nav> dim3000, you want to write your own docs or system files/settings?
[19:09] <An_Ony_Moose> I accidentally broke the window manager just now - I managed to fix it by running compiz --replace, but gnome-panel isn't coming back. How can I restore it? I've tried killing it alreay.
[19:09] <dim3000> abhi_nav: docs
[19:09] <Cheery> sebsebseb: so don't say anything about not needing graphics accel.
[19:09] <sebsebseb> Cheery: people in here are volunters,  treat people with respect that are trying to help you :)
[19:09] <detrix> Slart: I have it in my blacklist as well but its still getting used
[19:09] <Slart> detrix: hmm.. what line did you add to your blacklist file?
[19:09] <sebsebseb> Cheery: also you didn't even say originally what you were wanting to use the card for originalley
[19:09] <dim3000> abhi_nav: like leave the live cd files alone and just create a new folder myfiles to store data
[19:09] <JJovereats> An_0ny_Moose: Click the area of Panel, it worked for me
[19:09] <anirvana> How can I  make ubuntu autostart wvdial on startup?I can't use mobile broadband anymore after reebooting :(
[19:10] <detrix> Slart:  blacklist nouveau
[19:10] <abhi_nav> dim3000, then you sould be able to save them as normally. no special thing needed.
[19:10] <JJovereats> just check your net settings
[19:10] <An_Ony_Moose> nvm, got it - gnome-panel --replace
[19:10] <Cheery> sebsebseb: if someone has a working graphics card and he wants drivers for it. isn't it pretty dran obvious what he wants?
[19:10] <sebsebseb> Cheery: anyway have fun with your card,  I am not going to bother trying to help you anymore now.
[19:10] <Slart> detrix: that's odd.. I have that exact line as well.. in my /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[19:10] <k-rad> how do i zap (delete) a huge directory that sudo rm -Rf folder/  takes too long to nuke
[19:10] <dim3000> abhi_nav: can\t because the usb is mounted as a cdrom on /cdrom and is readonly, chmod doesnt work, the actual mounted filesystem is read-only
[19:10] <Cheery> sebsebseb: though there's one thing you didn't knew. my need for opencl support.
[19:10] <sebsebseb> Cheery: no since some people might be installing driver since they think they need to, not because they actsauly do
[19:10] <Slart> detrix: checked the spelling?
[19:10] <denni1> johnpaul: also your card may be sdhc and you need a newer reader, they come free with a brand name card sometimes. otherwise a newer linux edition may be needed to drive the usb reader.
[19:10] <abhi_nav> dim3000, you can use your live usb as our regular usb drive to save data.
[19:11] <Cheery> sebsebseb: because of that 173 version drivers aren't enough.
[19:11] <Cheery> sebsebseb: YET one thing. You weren't helpful from the beginning. just line noise.
[19:11] <denni1> has the usb reader ever worked in linux?
[19:11] <dim3000> abhi_nav: nope, doesnt show up anymore, only in fdisk
[19:11] <johnpaul> alright dennil, i'll check it out.  The card is 4 years old
[19:11] <detrix> Slart: its spelled nouveau  ...  right??
[19:11] <Cheery> sebsebseb: just facts first. Don't take it too hard.
[19:11] <Jordan_U> !attitude | Cheery
[19:11] <johnpaul> I've never had anything with Linux on it before...I've always used windows
[19:11] <abhi_nav> dim3000, ohh actually you saved such file when not running os from live usb.
[19:11] <ubu_ntu> I installed ubuntu on my desktop and whenever i try to boot from it my monitor stops working after the completing ubuntu installation screen (ive tried with two different monitors) it also works on my laptop.... ubuntu that is
[19:12] <denni1> has the sdcard reader ever worked in linux i mean
[19:12] <abhi_nav> dim3000, ohh actually I* saved such file when not running os from live usb.
[19:12] <sebsebseb> Jordan_U: :)
[19:12] <Slart> detrix: looks right "blacklist nouveau"
[19:12] <yezi> hi!
[19:12] <johnpaul> i have no clue.  It's my brother in laws computer, we just bought it from him, and he uses a USB cord to plug in to upload his pictures, but we don't have the cord for ours
[19:12] <JackStoner> can someone help, i cant seem to connect on yahoo using empathy OR pidgin
[19:13] <Cheery> Jordan_U: being a volunteer doesn't meant nobody can't have critique on you.
[19:13] <detrix> Slart: I am double checking the xlog now...
[19:13] <Cheery> Jordan_U: at least I hope it doesn't mean that.
[19:13] <JackStoner> can someone help, i cant seem to connect on yahoo using empathy OR pidgin
[19:13] <sebsebseb> !guidelines | Cheery
[19:13] <sebsebseb> !coc | Cheery
[19:13] <yezi> exit
[19:14] <k-rad> JackStoner, google it
[19:14] <BluesKaj> !attitude | Cheery
[19:14] <abhi_nav> !repeat | JackStoner
[19:14] <Worms> Cheery: ^^like it.
[19:14] <Jordan_U> Cheery: "are you dumb?" is not usefull critique, it is an insult. One which sebsebseb did not deserve.
[19:14] <ubu_ntu> I installed ubuntu on my desktop and whenever i try to boot from it my monitor stops working after the completing ubuntu installation screen (ive tried with two different monitors) it also works on my laptop.... ubuntu that is
[19:14] <denni1> johnpaul: try plugging it into the sd card reader on your usb printer it may have a newer sd(hc) reader build in
[19:15] <h00k> !google | k-rad
[19:15] <Cheery> Jordan_U: well maybe he couldn't be aware that I have mid-end hardware here.
[19:15] <tranguility> Hi all, i was wondering why my webcam has problems with java based applications (crystal eye webcam)
[19:16] <JackStoner> k-rad, i wouldnt ask here if i didnt google it...if u dont know the answer to my problem i think you should not reply to it :)
[19:16] <sebsebseb> Cheery: I guess people can troll when wanting support, if so, well thats indeed what you did
[19:16] <darthvies> How can I record videos on ubuntu with sound?
[19:16] <sebsebseb> !troll | Cheery
[19:16] <h00k> Cheery: Please adjust your attitude, we're trying to be helpful here.
[19:16] <darthvies> I wanted to do something where i can show my screen and what I do on it
[19:16] <k-rad> h00k, when a person installs ubuntu, is the www more obvious than something like xchat ?  while i realize that is an ubuntu supported response, but its been my experience that when people don't respond to my own queries, i google it and figure it out myself, not only that, i had insight into the nature of the issue
[19:16] <Andrew_M> Hi. I'm kinda new to Linux and was wondering if anyone could help me with a Grub menu config issue?
[19:17] <LucidGuy> Whats the command to check status of when a file was modified etc .. urg cant remember.
[19:17] <sebsebseb> !details | Andrew_M
[19:17] <Slart> LucidGuy: ls -l ? that is a lower case L
[19:17] <h00k> k-rad: 'Google it' is not an acceptable answer here, period.
[19:17] <LucidGuy> Slart, no .. theres a better one.
[19:17] <Cheery> shut up about etiquette already. I'm full of it and this nvidia issues. Also I don't start arguing about etiquettes or shut up if I feel that's wrong.
[19:18] <abhi_nav> how to increase empathy font size?
[19:18] <Slart> LucidGuy: chage?
[19:18] <tranguility> i have a problem with my webcam, i am running ubuntu 10.4, when i am running a url with java based webcam , it looks very blurry or does not work at all in the application, any help
[19:18] <h00k> ubottu: tell Cheery about guidelines
[19:18] <k-rad> h00k, i accept you don't accept it as an acceptable answer, but tell me, why is it often the solution for me on those occasions when i don't get any help, i google it
[19:18] <Slart> LucidGuy: bah.. nevermind.. that wasn't the one
[19:18] <LucidGuy> not change .. urg
[19:18] <Cheery> lovely. this channel attitude is horrible.
[19:19] <h00k> k-rad: that is good you are able to do that, that is still not an acceptable answer in this channel
[19:19] <Cheery> I get to search about this stuff and ignore you guys now.
[19:19] <h00k> Cheery: perhaps you should take a few minutes and cool down
[19:19] <Andrew_M> Sure. I have Win XP on one HD (/dev/sda1) and Linux on the other (/dev/sdb1). I can boot into Linux ok, but not Windows. I've tried adding Windows to the grub menu and device map but with no luck.
[19:19] <LucidGuy> STAT ..
[19:19] <LucidGuy> thats the one .. stat
[19:20] <ubu_ntu> I installed ubuntu on my desktop and whenever i try to boot from it my monitor stops working after the completing ubuntu installation screen (ive tried with two different monitors) it also works on my laptop.... ubuntu that is
[19:20] <dopple> could someone tell me what i need to do to get all the extra crap off of the boot screen, klike 86memtest, recover mode, and the like? also to set a default OS to load if i dont respond?
[19:20] <Jordan_U> Andrew_M: Does "sudo os-prober" list windows?
[19:20] <Cheery> h00k: I've spent whole day with this thing. still missing opencl from my system.
[19:20] <Slart> LucidGuy: ahhh.. stat.. bah.. I need some more coffee
[19:20] <sebsebseb> dopple: uhmm having a recovery mood on the boot screen,  could become useful later on
[19:20] <JackStoner> abhi_nav, do you use yahoo with empathy?? does it connect?
[19:20] <k-rad> someone spit out some server ips
[19:20] <Cheery> you can't be anything else but pissed after that. especially if youre not any much further because you aren't entirely aware of logs.
[19:20] <sebsebseb> dopple: also memtest86 is no big deal to keep
[19:21] <Pici> k-rad: for?
[19:21] <leagris> Cheery, sorry you dont get usefull help, tere ar 1625 users here, quite hard to avoid strict rules and still provide useful advices
[19:21] <abhi_nav> JackStoner, no I dont use. but I can try you wait
[19:21] <sebsebseb> dopple: might want to use that one day to test RAM
[19:21] <LucidGuy> Slart, so annoying when simple things fall out of memory.
[19:21] <dopple> sebsebseb: thats what rescue usb keys are for
[19:21] <k-rad> the person who needs assistance
[19:21] <JackStoner> abhi_nav, much appreciated :)
[19:21] <Slart> LucidGuy: indeed =)
[19:21] <nightrider> hi
[19:21] <sebsebseb> dopple: thats the old way for Ubuntu, to have to use a Live CD to fix a load of stuff
[19:21] <Slart> !hi | nightrider
[19:21] <Cheery> leagris: seems so. self-help best help most of the time.
[19:21] <sebsebseb> dopple: trust me recovery mood can be pretty useful at times
[19:22] <anodesni> How can I get rid of the tearing with videos in totem with fglrx/catalyst on a R700 card?
[19:22] <dopple> sebsebseb: shrug... i dont want to have to hit 6 keysstrokes to load windows... cause it put it at the bottom of the list
[19:22] <Andrew_M> sorry, I don't have os-prober installed. I feel a bit cheeky because I'm running Fedora 13 but I tried asking in that channel and they told me to go away
[19:22] <jungleberrykid> Andrew_M what is the output of the command os-prober?
[19:22] <sebsebseb> dopple: right yeah
[19:22] <sebsebseb> dopple: when you install new kernels it will add to Grub
[19:22] <sebsebseb> dopple: however easy enough to get rid of that
[19:22] <ztf> who can help me?
[19:22] <Slart> !ask | ztf
[19:22] <sebsebseb> dopple: is this what you mean as well?
[19:22] <JackStoner> ztf ask the question
[19:22] <Andrew_M> I understand is I can't get help here.
[19:22] <Andrew_M> *if
[19:22] <sebsebseb> Andrew_M: ok
[19:23] <jungleberrykid> another command you could run is update-grub
[19:23] <sebsebseb> Andrew_M: you can try ##linux as well I guess
[19:23] <dopple> sebsebseb: really.. if i can move windows to the top of the list and have ubuntu second, i'll be happy with that
[19:23] <sebsebseb> dopple: yes can do that as well
[19:23] <sebsebseb> dopple: well with the old Grub no problem, Grub 2 I guess not that hard to do there either
[19:23] <clarence_> hello
[19:23] <BluesKaj> !pm | Niccoli
[19:23] <sebsebseb> dopple: however when kernels add them selves, you can just remove the old ones in Synaptic for example
[19:23] <Andrew_M> sebsebseb, thanks. I'll try there.
[19:23] <sebsebseb> Andrew_M: is your issue with Ubuntu or not?
[19:23] <sebsebseb> Andrew_M: oh nevermind
[19:24] <sebsebseb> Andrew_M: yeah ##linux for any distro
[19:24] <dopple> im a little disappointed that 9.10 is still laggy.. but at least i dont have that crap screen that comes up on lucid
[19:24] <ztf> I can't config my wine,it disappear when I open it
[19:24] <clarence_> quit
[19:24] <sebsebseb> dopple: the what screen?
[19:24] <h00k> !away > omgjoz|HONDURAS
[19:24] <jungleberrykid> Guys, I'm having an issue where I am unable to access tty sessions via Ctrl-Alt-F1 through F6 - it just displays a blinking cursor at the top of my screen...
[19:24] <sebsebseb> dopple: oh you mean the purple log in screen?
[19:24] <Worms> dopple: Could you brief me ?
[19:24] <k-rad> dopple maybe yahoo will have a more suitable way to cure that
[19:24] <dopple> sebsebseb: the screen that had like categories on the left and apps on the right... and took up the whole screen
[19:24] <jungleberrykid> when I create a brand new user on the exact same maching it works fine though
[19:24] <trupheenix> hi i need help. i want to prevent certain processes from starting up during system boot.
[19:24] <BluesKaj> BBL ...lunch
[19:25] <jungleberrykid> what files in the home directory are relevant to the tty sessions? Any ideas?
[19:25] <h00k> k-rad: That is not an acceptable answer, I've already asked you to please not direct people to search engines. They're not here to hear that.
[19:25] <akkan84> I need help with SSD hard drive
[19:25] <k-rad> you said google
[19:25] <detrix> Slart:  Do I need to use the "Modeline" in the xorg.conf???
[19:25] <k-rad> yahoo was the official search engine of ubuntu originally
[19:25] <trupheenix> how do i control what processes should be run at boot time?
[19:25] <sebsebseb> k-rad: no I think it was always Google, but yes in 10.04 it was going to change to Yahoo
[19:25] <askhader> Is it possible to put your laptop into standby but still have it playing music?
[19:25] <Slart> detrix: nope.. ubuntu uses a lot of autodetection for xorg.conf settings.. usually it gets things right
[19:26] <ztf> black screen when I enter it
[19:26] <trupheenix> i don't want to start processes like apache and mysqld on boot up
[19:26] <trupheenix> so how do i stop that?
[19:26] <nightrider> ztf, winecfg
[19:26] <Slart> detrix: you can add all the old settings to your xorg.conf if you really want.. but it usually works without it
[19:26] <dopple> sebsebseb: when i installed lucid what came up was like a full screen thing that had stuff like system, internet, preferences and stuff like that on the left, and the apps in that category on the right.. it was horrible
[19:26] <askhader> trupheenix: Do you need apache and mysql?
[19:26] <Jordan_U> Andrew_M: #grub is what you want (and I can help you there:)
[19:26] <abhi_nav> JackStoner, I succesfully connected to yahoo. you dont type<EMAIL_ADDRESS>just type 'example' and then password. try it
[19:26] <sebsebseb> dopple: applications places system yes :)
[19:27] <dopple> sebsebseb: yeah that thing.. i hated it.. no desktop like in karmic
[19:27] <trupheenix> askhader: no i don't need them. i want to start them manually when i require them.
[19:27] <sebsebseb> dopple: if  you don't like the default look of Gnome you can customize, plus there are loads of alternatives
[19:27] <detrix> Slart:  when I  install the nVidia drivers, all I get for resolutions is 640x480 or 320x240
[19:27] <sebsebseb> dopple: uhmm 9.10 is like 10.04 as well
[19:27] <sebsebseb> detrix: when it comes to thsi
[19:27] <dopple> no
[19:27] <ubu_ntu> I installed ubuntu on my desktop and whenever i try to boot from it my monitor stops working after the completing ubuntu installation screen (ive tried with two different monitors) it also works on my laptop.... ubuntu that is
[19:27] <JackStoner> abhi_nav, i tried with another account and it worked i think this account has an issue...wait i try something, thanks btw :)