[02:20] <Gaz> do i need to restart opera after installing new plugins?
[02:20] <mos> when i try to run adept it says conversation whit su failed
[02:20] <Kiongku> gaz probably
[02:20] <ccomp5950> Gaz: yes
[02:20] <Jucato> Kiongku: there already is
[02:20] <Gaz> heh
[02:20] <softmaster> ok thanks
[02:20] <Gaz> lol dint think of that :{
[02:20] <Jucato> !w32codecs > Kiongku
[02:21] <eilker> hi people what do i need for lan ? samba etc ? i have modem one pc one laptop, i wanna share each other? laptop is suse, pc is kubuntu...
[02:21] <mos> i'm quite new at this..
[02:21] <Dr_willis> eilker,  if both pc's have a network port.. 1 single crossover network cable will do it.
[02:21] <Dr_willis> eilker,  or 2 normal cables and a switch/hub.
[02:22] <Dr_willis> eilker,  when you say 'modem' you mean a dial up modem?
[02:22] <eilker> adsl modem
[02:22] <Dr_willis> and how is it connecting to the pc?
[02:22] <eilker> by ethernet to both of them
[02:23] <eilker> it may connect ?
[02:23] <Dr_willis> you both of them>
[02:23] <Dr_willis> You got 2 cablec comming from the dsl modem to the 2 pcs ?
[02:23] <eilker> i yes sir exactly
[02:23] <esaym> oh crap, i ment fsck, where does fsck log to?
[02:24] <Dr_willis> the dsl modem has 2 network jacks then? that somthing ive never seen befor.
[02:24] <eilker> it has 4 ports
[02:24] <Dr_willis> thats a nifty thing then...
[02:24] <Dr_willis> must be a dsl modem and router combined.
[02:25] <eilker> yes sir, sorry it is adsl router
[02:25] <Dr_willis> get on pc #1 check its ip, check #2 see its ip..  then see if #1 can ping #2 :)
[02:25] <Jucato> Dr_willis: I have one like that too. but I can't determine whether it's a multi-port modem or a router
[02:25] <eilker> ping is ok i already tried
[02:25] <Dr_willis> If they both are on the same router/network.. they are networked... :)  and you got a lan.
[02:25] <Dr_willis> eilker,  so.... what was the problem then? Lol.
[02:26] <eilker> Dr_willis: i cant see files
[02:26] <Dr_willis> 'see files' is not the same as networking. :)
[02:26] <eilker> Dr_willis: i mean i can ping but i cant enter to another pc
[02:26] <eilker> Dr_willis: i cant take files
[02:27] <Dr_willis> you can use the sshfs, or fish:// feature of konqueror (if you got ssh installed on both pc's) to transfer files around
[02:27] <Dr_willis> fish://username@hostname
[02:28] <Dr_willis> of fish://ip.of.the.other.box
[02:28] <eilker> Dr_willis: what about kde public server
[02:28] <Dr_willis> eilker,  there samba, then ssh, then nfs, as ways to 'get to' other  machine
[02:28] <Dr_willis> i never mess with the kde public server.. not sure how it works.
[02:28] <Dr_willis> I tend to use 'fish://'
[02:28] <eilker> new linux user here:) samba is ok?
[02:29] <eilker> let me try samba ?
[02:29] <Dr_willis> samba can work.. but it needs a little setting up.
[02:29] <rolando> hi
[02:29] <Dr_willis> Each linux user needs a samba password enabled.. "sudo smbpasswd -a LINUXUSERNAME"   on each box.
[02:29] <rolando> where is my HD when i boot with the kubuntu live CDp
[02:29] <rolando> _
[02:29] <Dr_willis> eilker,  in the konqueror address bar try the fish:\\ip# thing.
[02:30] <eilker> oki sir
[02:30] <rolando> what is the path_
[02:30] <danny500> I have a question
[02:30] <Dr_willis> roland,  i dont think they are mounted by default.  look in the storage media stuff and see if the icons are there... right click and mount.  they 'should' appear in /media/
[02:30] <rolando> Dr_willis: that is what i thought but media is empty
[02:30] <Dr_willis> i use so many differnt live cd;s
[02:30] <danny500> do they make the game Stratosphere: Conquest of the Skies for Linux?
[02:31] <Dr_willis> roland,  ya could always mount them manually
[02:31] <danny500> or is it just a windows game?
[02:31] <Dr_willis> danny500,  check that 'linux game tome' if it exists they should have info on it.
[02:31] <rolando> Dr_willis: and how do i do that_
[02:31] <danny500> ok
[02:31] <Dr_willis> roland,  sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1   (or similer)
[02:31] <rolando> ok thanx
[02:31] <danny500> thanx doctor
[02:32] <Dr_willis> roland,  what are you trying to mount exactly? ntfs/windows/linux?
[02:32] <BluesKaj> Howdy All
[02:32] <Jonty> I reconfigured X using dpkg-reconfigure, and now all my keyboard layouts are gone. What can I do?
[02:32] <Dr_willis> I got the Linux Game TOme in my 'bookmarks/rss feeds' :) so i see all the altest games
[02:33] <eilker> Dr_willis: fish://<IP_ADDRESS> is this ok ?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> eilker,  been faster to try it and see. :P then ask.. lol
[02:33] <Dr_willis> eilker,  try it and see.
[02:33] <BluesKaj> Does anyone have a scanner connected and working in edgy or dapper , even ? Edgy doesn't see my HP3500c :(
[02:34] <eilker> Dr_willis: it gave connect so that i asked:)
[02:34] <eilker> Dr_willis: it gave connection error so that i asked:)
[02:34] <Dr_willis> eilker,  heh - what error then? You may need ssh installed on the machines..
[02:34] <Dr_willis> I forget whats installed by default these days
[02:35] <eilker> Dr_willis: it gave connection error so that i asked:)
[02:35] <Dr_willis> try 'ssh <IP_ADDRESS>'  and see if ya can get over that way
[02:35] <Dr_willis> !info ssh
[02:35] <ubotu> ssh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[02:35] <Dr_willis> its 'optional' so it needs to be installed. I think.
[02:35] <Jonty> I reconfigured X using dpkg-reconfigure, and now all my keyboard layouts are gone. What can I do? Here's the keyboard section of my xorg.conf: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2371
[02:35] <eilker> ok sir thanx:)
[02:36] <esaym> anyone know off hand what is the ext3 tuning program command
[02:36] <daftvader> hi
[02:36] <esaym> something like extune or something
[02:36] <daftvader> has anyone upgrade to edgy with problems?
[02:36] <Jonty> daftvader: YES
[02:36] <daftvader> i have heaps of problems
[02:36] <BluesKaj> Jonty, sys/settings/keybrd & mouse
[02:36] <Dr_willis> tune<tab> ---> tune2fs  tun
[02:36] <Jonty> daftvader: I agree
[02:37] <Dr_willis> I did a clean install of edgy. No big hassles
[02:37] <Jonty> daftvader: But I managed to overcome them all. Try it
[02:37] <Jucato> problems problems problems....
[02:37] <tiger_it> daftvader: no...... but sometimes problems with dependecies suing aptitutude instead of apt-get
[02:37] <daftvader> jonty for some reason I cannot run my linux on my k7 kernel
[02:37] <tiger_it> daftvader: apt-ger: fine
[02:37] <esaym> hey thanks Dr_willis
[02:37] <daftvader> tiger_it i used apt-get but I received alot of problem, now my linux won't boot into kernel k7
[02:37] <Jonty> BluesKaj: Where's that?
[02:37] <esaym> you wouldnt know off hand where fsck logs to would you?
[02:38] <daftvader> that's the smp kernel
[02:38] <Dr_willis> - /var/log  would be my guess
[02:38] <tiger_it> daftvader: sorry ........ I dindt try K7 kernel........yet
[02:38] <esaym> cant find anything in there
[02:38] <daftvader> well it boot in but nvidia cannot run
[02:38] <esaym> slocate turns upo nothing too
[02:38] <Dr_willis> if fsck is checking a partition.. and the partition is not mounted.. how can it log anything?
[02:38] <Jonty> BluesKaj: If you're talking about Settings > Regional & Accesibility > Keyboard Layout, that doesn't work
[02:38] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[02:39] <daftvader> tiger_it: i cannot see my new usplash screen properly, it is stretched
[02:39] <daftvader> and distorted
[02:39] <esaym> it checked it when it booted, but yea i see your point..hmmmm
[02:39] <rysiek|pl> asked that on #ubuntu, but got no answer: I have just managed to rm -rf /etc/ssl/ (now don't you *even ASK* how). how can I reinstall openssl so the config's are back on their places
[02:39] <daftvader> what is wrong
[02:39] <esaym> it gave an error in red text before it rebooted after checking, tryign to figure out what it was
[02:39] <Dr_willis> wow.. a little bity comercial game for linux.. $19.95  Dirk Dashing: Secret Agent released for Linux  http://mygamecompany.swmirror.com/dirkdashingsetup_linux1_0.bin
[02:39] <BluesKaj> bummer Jonty , sorry to hear that :(
[02:39] <Dr_willis> heh.
[02:39] <daftvader> ;(
[02:39] <heinkel_111> something screwed up with my graphics in the upgrade to dapper...dark grey colours break up into petroleum-shiny greenpinkvioletstuff :(
[02:40] <Jonty> BluesKaj: There's no layouts available
[02:40] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: "cat /boot/grub/menu.lst | grep vga" and paste it here
[02:40] <Jonty> Dr_willis: There's a demo? Cool! I just got 3D support working
[02:40] <heinkel_111> i dunno what is the problem
[02:41] <daftvader> ## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
[02:41] <Jonty> I reconfigured X using dpkg-reconfigure, and now all my keyboard layouts are gone. What can I do? Here's the keyboard section of my xorg.conf: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2371
[02:41] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: is that normal?
[02:42] <Dr_willis> doh it crashed
[02:42] <BluesKaj> Jonty, maybe a kde update ?
[02:42] <daftvader> mate just use vista
[02:42] <daftvader> lol
[02:42] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: copy your /boot/grub/menu.lst to, say, menu.lst.orig, and sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst - delete every occurence of "vga=XXX"
[02:43] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: vista? for what? waste 1GB opf RAM just to have transparency, when I have it with xgl and 300MB? :]
[02:43] <ubuntu_> join
[02:43] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: I was kidding about vista. There is no occurence of vga, it has been commented out
[02:43] <Dr_willis> Ok. Dirk Dashing crashed.. :)
[02:44] <larson9999> still can't fathom why people consider transparency of windows an asset
[02:44] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: hmmm... ok, let's try the other way around. what monitor do you have? lcd?
[02:44] <mos> hy
[02:44] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get update is stuck at 'free.contrib.org' source
[02:44] <mos> i'm back again
[02:44] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: yes
[02:44] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: it is ok in dapper
[02:44] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: what is the default resolution for your monitor?
[02:45] <Jucato> BluesKaj: probably PLF for Edgy is down
[02:45] <sorush20> hi I keep getting the message that reboot and shutdown commands are not found any ideas?
[02:45] <softmaster> can i use arabic subtitles for videos especially rmvb and xvid videos in kubuntu?
[02:45] <rysiek|pl> softmaster: yeah, you just need to use the correct font and encoding.
[02:45] <mos> i ca'nt install anything..can someone enlight me?
[02:45] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: it is the 24' monitor
[02:45] <sorush20> why isn't the install cd using the live cd installation method. is that only available for the live cd or desktop cd?
[02:46] <Jonty> mos: enlighten us as to the symptoms
[02:46] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: but isn't the default res only get set after x get started?
[02:46] <rysiek|pl> softmaster: you can set them in the configuration of your media player
[02:46] <Jonty> mos: why can't you install anything
[02:46] <softmaster> how to open the subtitle files
[02:46] <mos> i try to run adept
[02:46] <Jonty> mos: do you not know how or is it an error
[02:46] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: this is the splash screen straight after grub
[02:46] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: that's what we are just goiung to change :)
[02:46] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: I know. I have it at 1024x768 for instance
[02:46] <Jonty> mos: try kdesu synaptic
[02:46] <mos> after i type my password it says conversation whit su failed
[02:46] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: does your monitor handle 1024x768?
[02:47] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: yes
[02:47] <mos> i don't have synaptic installed
[02:47] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: just to check if you know what I am talking about, i am refering to the usplash screen that loads thing up before xserver
[02:48] <softmaster> how to open the subtitle files
[02:48] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: or the login screen
[02:48] <BluesKaj> bbl
[02:48] <softmaster> and what is the proper encoding for arabic?
[02:48] <mos> i'm using the alternate package of daper drake
[02:48] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: yes, I am refering to the resolution that usplash is being displayed at all the time :)
[02:49] <sorush20> does the alternate cd or the desktop cd have the live cd on it?
[02:49] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: cool, how can I change it so that it is displayed properly
[02:49] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: ok, in tha menu.lst file you have stanzas, try adding "vga=791" to the end of the "kernel:" line of the stanza that defines the boot option you use
[02:50] <softmaster> any helper here ?
[02:50] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: I suppose your monitor can't handle the resolution uspolash is being displayed by default, so we'll change that to 1024x768 this way
[02:50] <rysiek|pl> softmaster: google for it, if you use it yoiou should know.
[02:51] <daftvader> try adding "vga=791" to the end of the "kernel:" - what does that mean
[02:51] <daftvader> can you give me an example
[02:51] <sorush20> did anyon even see my question..
[02:51] <sorush20> this channel is becoming really bad..
[02:51] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: moment
[02:52] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: BEFORE: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-k7 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash
[02:52] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: AFTER: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-k7 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash vga=791
[02:52] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: REMEMBER TO BACK THE MENU.LST FILE BEFORE DOING THIS, thank you :)_
[02:53] <daftvader> yep already backup
[02:53] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. you may want to try 'vga=ASK' (or ask)   and seeing what options are  allowed
[02:54] <Dr_willis> also closer to the top of the menu.lst is a location to set the vga= line for all new kerneles.. if you do a update-grub your change/edit will be overwritten.
[02:54] <Dr_willis> You can ALSO edit the grub menu/entrys on the fly at boot time by hitting escape  (to see the menu) then E to edit the lines.
[02:54] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: my nvidia also doesn't seem to work with 2.6.15-25-k7 kernel anymore after edgy
[02:54] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: it used to work with dapper
[02:55] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: you'll need to reinstall it.
[02:55] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: I mean nvidia
[02:55] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: yes i used apt-get
[02:55] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: it said it is already updated
[02:55] <daftvader> rysiek|pl: and is latest. How do I reinstall nvidia with edgy again?
[02:55] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: don't know about nvidia (ATI user here) but I use the installer from ATI's website, nod the drivers from the repos
[02:56] <danny500> How do I install a .run program?
[02:56] <rysiek|pl> *not
[02:56] <daftvader> ah i see
[02:56] <Dr_willis> sh whatever.run
[02:56] <Dr_willis> actually may be better to use
[02:56] <daftvader> I'll reboot and check the usplash and I'll let you know
[02:56] <Dr_willis> bash whatever.run
[02:56] <daftvader> thanks for the help so far rysiek|pl
[02:56] <rysiek|pl> daftvader: nop
[02:56] <danny500> in the terminal
[02:56] <Dr_willis> of course. :P
[02:56] <danny500> ok thanx brb
[02:57] <sorush20> is anyon even hearing me?
[02:57] <Dr_willis> sorush20, moo! :)
[02:57] <Dr_willis> sorush20, eh sonny? what ya say?
[02:57] <esben> sorush20: I don't believe the alternate CD has the live CD, no
[02:58] <esben> Dapper didn't, anyway
[02:58] <Dr_willis> the DVD  has both live and alt install on it..
[02:59] <danny500> dr. it didn't work
[03:01] <danny500> Dr_Willis, this is were it is , /home/danny500/Desktop/dominions3demo_installer.run , how would I type this into the terminal to install it?
[03:02] <rysiek|pl> danny500: bash /home/danny500/Desktop/dominions3demo_installer.run
[03:02] <tommy> Hi jemand hier der deutsch kann?
[03:02] <danny500> ok I'll try that hold on
[03:03] <Jonty> or chmod +x /file/you/want/to run then /file/you/want/to/run
[03:03] <Dr_willis> gee i would just cd to the Desktop :)
[03:03] <Dr_willis> what theres a domonions3 demo?!?!
[03:03] <Dr_willis> Cool!
[03:03] <rysiek|pl> tommy: #ubuntu.de
[03:03] <tommy> thx
[03:03] <Dr_willis> i looked for that game at the stores the other day.
[03:03] <danny500> it say's:
[03:03] <danny500> bash /home/danny500/Desktop/dominions3demo_installer.run
[03:03] <danny500> /home/danny500/Desktop/dominions3demo_installer.run: /home/danny500/Desktop/dominions3demo_installer.run: cannot execute binary file
[03:04] <danny500> now what?
[03:04] <BluesKaj> is there a command that lists all connected, recognized hardware and auxiliary devices in Edgy?
[03:04] <Dr_willis> cd to where its at...
[03:04] <Dr_willis> chmod +x thatfile
[03:04] <Dr_willis> ./thatfile
[03:04] <danny500> ok I'll try that then hold on
[03:05] <danny500> it just goes to another blank text area and does nothing, now what?
[03:05] <Dr_willis> im still trying to fidn a download site.
[03:05] <sorush20> where are the recommened isos for the cds on the download page?
[03:05] <Dr_willis> you ran ./dominions3demo_intaller.run
[03:05] <danny500> o so you can install it your self and tell me how ou did it?
[03:05] <sorush20> via bittorent
[03:06] <danny500> yeah
[03:06] <Dr_willis> all the (#*@&*@ download sites i can find are in russian
[03:06] <danny500> go to goggle and look up Dominion 3, thats what I did
[03:07] <doph089> how long is the startup-time for kubuntu?
[03:07] <danny500> 4 hours
[03:07] <doph089> from i turn my pc on to when its ready for use
[03:08] <danny500> joking depends how fast your computer is
[03:08] <sorush20> much longer that windows
[03:08] <zarephath> anyone in here running PPC architecture?
[03:08] <doph089> say a pretty new pc (Conroe E6600, 4 gb ram, 7900gs)
[03:08] <danny500> thats a really hard question to answer when we don't know what you have in your computer
[03:08] <Dr_willis> danny500,  figure that.. the homepage was not the #1 google hit.
[03:08] <danny500> lol
[03:09] <Dr_willis> downloading now... 13 min.
[03:09] <BluesKaj> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/610released
[03:09] <Dr_willis> wait.. download failed...
[03:09] <Dr_willis> *joy*
[03:09] <danny500> lol
[03:10] <danny500> I'm using a 550MHzP3 , 256MB SDRAM, 8MB intergrated graphics card with intergration up to 256, and I downloaded that file in 2 minutes
[03:10] <Dr_willis> http://www.gamershell.com/download_15828.shtml
[03:11] <danny500> man my computer sucks
[03:11] <Dr_willis> 2 min? wtf server did ya yse..
[03:11] <danny500> hold on I'll find it
[03:11] <Dr_willis> OR did the download just SEEM to dwnload.. whats its filesize. that may be the issue
[03:11] <Dr_willis> http://www.gamershell.com/download_15828.shtml
[03:11] <Dr_willis> 97.28mb
[03:12] <danny500> yeah
[03:12] <danny500> well actually mines 97.3mb
[03:12] <zarephath> Dr_Willis: Is it turn based?
[03:12] <Dr_willis> joy - the download went from 145 mb/s to 9  to 0
[03:12] <danny500> no RTS
[03:12] <Dr_willis> zarephath,   not sure. :)
[03:13] <danny500> like AoE
[03:13] <zarephath> danny500: You replying to me? Real time strategy?
[03:13] <danny500> yeah
[03:13] <zarephath> Ahhh..kewl
[03:13] <Dr_willis> since i cant get it downloaded.. dont look like i will ever find out.
[03:13] <zarephath> Dr_Willis: :-(
[03:13] <LockUp> I've Esperanza CD-R (not CD-RW) - x16 x32 x56.
[03:13] <danny500> what type of connection you have?
[03:13] <Dr_willis> http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Illwinter/Dom3/1.htm
[03:14] <LockUp> What does mean the second parametre?
[03:14] <Dr_willis> cable modem
[03:14] <danny500> yeah, thats the one I used
[03:14] <danny500> http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Illwinter/Dom3/1.htm
[03:14] <Dr_willis> http://download.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/dominions3demo_installer.run
[03:14] <danny500> I use a cable modem to, I have a 7MBps connection, you?
[03:15] <Dr_willis> i can max out at about 400-500kb/s ive seen. :)
[03:15] <Dr_willis> but it dont matter what i can do - if the servers aint giving it to me
[03:15] <soulrider> hi everyone
[03:15] <danny500> 0.5MBps !!!!
[03:15] <jcf_from_ar> Hi. All repositories seem to be down for me. adept freeze "waiting for headers". sources.list are checked. Any idea?
[03:16] <soulrider> i download at 50 KB/s :P
[03:16] <Dr_willis> if the server is only letting you get 10k/s thats all ya get. :(
[03:16] <Dr_willis> servers seem to be the bottleneck these days
[03:16] <BluesKaj> DL-ing the edgy ISO at 525kbs...quite good
[03:16] <zarephath> Dr_Willis: It seems to be grabbing it fine for me...U want me to DCC it to you when I am done d/loading? I don't have a fast upstream but it will be consistent
[03:17] <Dr_willis> Heck that URL isent even starting the download...
[03:17] <danny500> man, I downloaded a music cd yesturday and It came in at 3000KBps!
[03:17] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: Depends what mirrors you use.
[03:17] <zarephath> danny500: What type of connection do ya have?
[03:17] <Dr_willis> wget http://download.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/dominions3demo_installer.run
[03:17] <danny500> cogeco 7MBps
[03:17] <sorush20> why do I keep getting the message that command not found reboot and shutdown ?
[03:17] <danny500> high speed
[03:17] <Dr_willis> NOW im getting it at 300 K/s
[03:18] <danny500> good
[03:18] <Dr_willis> i even asked about that game at a store last week... they never heard of it.
[03:18] <BluesKaj> danny500, where are you in canada...near sudbury here ...using sympatico UHS dsl
[03:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:18] <mirshafie> since i upgraded to edgy only /home and /media will show up in different fs dialogs, such as ktorrent save location, firefox dialogs et.c. what the hell is this? and how can i fix it?
[03:18] <Dr_willis> mirshafie,  thats a feature.
[03:19] <danny500> I live in Welland Ontario
[03:19] <Dr_willis> !hidden
[03:19] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[03:19] <mirshafie> Dr_willis:  that feture sucks!
[03:19] <Dr_willis> mirshafie,  remove the /.hidden file or edit it.
[03:19] <mirshafie> ok
[03:19] <dalbirdy> has anyone here used vmware on there kubuntu machine?
[03:19] <Dr_willis> mirshafie,  tell the devs..  you can always enter the whole /path/to/things
[03:19] <Dr_willis> dalbirdy,   i use vmware server all the time
[03:20] <zarephath> Dr_willis: Like to run windows :-O
[03:20] <dalbirdy> how can I get the sound to work inside vmware....running win xp?
[03:20] <danny500> how do I change the colour of my chat name?
[03:20] <BluesKaj> is there a command that lists all connected, recognized hardware and auxiliary devices in Edgy?
[03:20] <Dr_willis> zarephath,  i use win98 under it at times
[03:20] <zarephath> dalbirdy: Did you install the soundcard in the virtual machine?
[03:20] <Dr_willis> dalbirdy,  not sure.. i dont think sound works on my w98 vmware setup either.
[03:20] <zarephath> If you have sound in Linux you *should* have sound in VMWare
[03:21] <dalbirdy> it shows that i have a sound blaster
[03:21] <Dr_willis> sound works under vmware in my linux sessions.. but w98 dont seem to want to play sounds..
[03:21] <dalbirdy> which i do ....an audigy 2
[03:21] <zarephath> Hmmm...I have always had sound in VMWare on linux
[03:21] <dalbirdy> i am also having issues getting usb recognition
[03:21] <zarephath> That is running windows
[03:22] <zarephath> dalbirdy: I am not sure about the level of driver support for the Audigy 2 in linux...if it is fully supported more likely to run in a virtualized environment
[03:22] <dalbirdy> my main system is Kubuntu
[03:22] <dalbirdy> everything works VERY GOOD
[03:22] <danny500> Why is Apple/Mac being so C@cky in their commercials?
[03:23] <dalbirdy> except running vmware i get no sound or usb
[03:23] <twosouls82> ask them
[03:23] <dalbirdy> somthing to play with i guess until i get it to work
[03:23] <BluesKaj> cuz they think they're immune to the problems that MS windows has securitywise and otherwise
[03:23] <Lynoure> dalbirdy: that's how wmwore is, if I remember right
[03:24] <danny500> It's making me angry cause they keep saying that theMac can do this and the Mac can do that but Windows has been doing all those things for years
[03:24] <twosouls82> so?
[03:24] <twosouls82> ads sucks always
[03:24] <dalbirdy> it patsy fies my wife so i guess that is good enough
[03:24] <mirshafie> just thought i should thank you Dr_willis, the hidden files thing has annoyed me for a long time. thanks
[03:24] <twosouls82> s/sucks/suck
[03:24] <danny500> really they should keep there mouth shut because that really scares off potential buyer's
[03:25] <Lynoure> dalbirdy: it's meant to be for services, mostly, so it (apart from possibly the for-fee desktop version) there is no usb or sound on it. Not a fault of Ubuntu, but a decision of WMware company
[03:25] <BluesKaj> danny500, it appeals to ppl's 'pride of ownership" ...read snob appeal, as well
[03:25] <danny500> yeah
[03:26] <dalbirdy> so they do have ways to make it work if you pay for it.....that sucks!!
[03:26] <BluesKaj> well windows does the same
[03:26] <danny500> not as bad though
[03:26] <Lynoure> dalbirdy: they have to make their living somehow
[03:26] <twosouls82> they all do
[03:27] <twosouls82> that's commerence, this is freedom
[03:27] <Dr_willis> mirshafie,  i kind of like it.. but it should be a per-user setting.. and that .hidden file MAY reappear when you upgrade/update
[03:27] <dalbirdy> I prefer kubuntu anyway my wife just cant seem to grasp it....so she wines until i do something that she can handle
[03:27] <danny500> see Mac is trying to belittle windows by throughing cheap shoots at them on TV but Windows has never done that to Mac
[03:27] <Dr_willis> mirshafie,  perm fix i hear is to make a blank one.
[03:27] <danny500> Windows minds there own business
[03:27] <BluesKaj> I don't see any linux ads on TV , except maybe on "Call for Help"
[03:27] <danny500> thats because Linux can't afford it
[03:28] <sistemas> good morning to all people
[03:28] <Dr_willis> Linux dont need to. :)
[03:28] <danny500> notice how Linux is free
[03:28] <twosouls82> :\
[03:28] <danny500> I like Linux for everything except games
[03:28] <twosouls82> welcome sistemas
[03:28] <sistemas> I am peruvian and I a user of Kubuntu 6.06
[03:28] <BluesKaj> exactly...now you get it , danny500 :)
[03:28] <danny500> no viruses, can't go wrong with that
[03:28] <Dr_willis> I was telling guys at work..  if sony would come out with a "special Linux-Everquest OS" would you change if it gave you better EQ performace? they all yelled YESS!
[03:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:29] <danny500> lol
[03:29] <Dr_willis> Playing Second Live under Linux at the moment... i still dont see the point of the thing.
[03:29] <mirshafie> Dr_willis: i wouldn't mind it if there was a button or something in the k dialogs so that you could view the dirs when you want to. but i just commented every line of .hidden out, it did the trick.
[03:29] <Dr_willis> mirshafie,  under firefox dialog i just click that one button ent tyoe the /path/whatever.  :) out of habbit i guess
[03:30] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, is there a command that lists all connected, recognized hardware and auxiliary devices in Edgy?
[03:30] <danny500> Linix should make an OS that can take and use system files from any OS install disk like a windows xp install dvd for example
[03:30] <Dr_willis> lspci gives a lot of them
[03:30] <Dr_willis> kde has that hardware tool in its control-center
[03:30] <dako> How do you change permission for a folder in your home directory?
[03:31] <Dr_willis> dako,  i use 'chmod ' command but you can right click and properties I think as well
[03:31] <danny500> so pretty much this new OS will be Linux mac and windows all at once
[03:31] <sistemas> since many weeks, I have problems with the sound
[03:31] <sistemas> I can listen music in a browser
[03:32] <sistemas> but I can't listen in my desktop
[03:32] <dako> The problem that I am having is that I made a share folder for my wife to dump pictures into then I copy them to a external USB drive. The main folder belongs to me but the folders inside belong to user nobody
[03:32] <dalbirdy> sistemas: what os are you using?
[03:32] <Dr_willis> a samba share dont use the permissions that way i think.. I tend to just make a 'public' share for people to dump things to.
[03:33] <Dr_willis> but i dont use the kde 'shareing' feature. i go old-skool and edit the samba.conf
[03:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:33] <dako> I used a trick from a web site, is the setup wrong, or should I have done it a different way?
[03:33] <Dr_willis> not sure what trick ya did. :)
[03:33] <dako> I am going through SWAT to use this setup
[03:33] <dalbirdy> sistemas: what os are you using?
[03:33] <Dr_willis> i just edit the samba.conf and make a 'public' share.
[03:33] <shadowhywind> hay all, i was wondering if anyone else is having problems with hibernate with Edgy?
[03:34] <shadowhywind> my hibernate "pretends to hibernate" it locks the screen, turns the monitor off, and then it turns it back on.. any ideas?
[03:34] <dalbirdy> i am using dapper....and so far i have had no issue with hibernate
[03:34] <sistemas> I using firefox
[03:35] <dako> I tried to do that on the external USB, but I could not dump files into it from the laptop that is running windows
[03:35] <Dr_willis> chmod +x dominions3demo_installer.run  && ./dominions3demo_installer.run
[03:35] <shadowhywind> i had no issues with hibernate in dapper eather
[03:35] <KennyTheFreak> I was wondering if anyone was having problems with upstart with edgy...
[03:35] <sistemas> and I use Amarok to reproduce mp3
[03:36] <dalbirdy> does anyone have any issue of making an audio cd out of mp3's....
[03:36] <Dr_willis> k3b needs a mp3 thing loaded to do so.
[03:36] <dalbirdy> i was so i converted the mp3 to ogg and it made an audiio cd for me
[03:36] <Dr_willis> well i got the DOmoniosn3 demo working. :)
[03:36] <Dr_willis> dalbirdy,  the kubuntu faq - mentions the exact package needed to get k3b to read mp3's
[03:36] <larson9999> is it just me or do most people think buying ring tones is moronic?
[03:37] <sistemas> I tried to test the sound in the system settings
[03:37] <sistemas> but nothing
[03:37] <dalbirdy> Dr. Willis...where do i get this mp3 thing....what is is called?
[03:37] <soulrider> dalbirdy: you gotta installa  package to do that
[03:37] <sistemas> I don't have son
[03:37] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[03:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:37] <Dr_willis> larson9999,  my cell phone can use mp3's as ring tones.. but the NEW ones cant
[03:37] <soulrider> larson9999: i thgink it is moronic :P
[03:37] <dalbirdy> ok
[03:37] <Dr_willis> dalbirdy,  the KUBUNTU FAQ has a chapter on mp3 packages to install
[03:37] <soulrider> my cell can only use MIDI :(
[03:38] <dalbirdy> im going there now
[03:38] <sistemas> I but why does I have sound in the browser but not in my dektop
[03:38] <dako> I don't have a samba.conf file
[03:40] <dako> what sound driver are you using>
[03:40] <KennyTheFreak> either im deaf or my sound driver doesnt work...
[03:41] <sorush20> !rescue
[03:41] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[03:41] <dalbirdy> found it thanks
[03:41] <sorush20> the rescue is not exactly rescuing my system from booting in to busy box
[03:43] <TheGateKeeper> sorush20: won't your system boot up properly?
[03:44] <KennyTheFreak> wheres the alsa-base config file?
[03:46] <daftvader> hi
[03:46] <daftvader> can anyone tell my where i can get my linux kernel source
[03:46] <dalbirdy> works great thanks....Dr. W
[03:46] <daftvader> what repository?
[03:46] <dako> !mp3
[03:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:47] <zero_1> hello pips!  this kinda might be OT here but i was researching on this opensuse kickoff menu and been trying to build it w/ no success.  some ubuntu users were able to successfully build it,i assume from svn sources.... anyone knows which version it was?
[03:47] <dalbirdy> under the terminal
[03:47] <NeedHelp> can anyone tell me kdm wouldn't show up on the display (its in the process tree) after i upgrade from dapper drake to edgy eft
[03:47] <dalbirdy> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential
[03:47] <gnomefreak> zero_1: you mean slab?
[03:47] <zero_1> um yeah
[03:47] <sistemas> I 'm in alsamixer
[03:47] <sistemas> and it shows me that surround is off
[03:47] <aurora_> help.. how to change owner database automatically from mysql to my user account everytime i create database
[03:47] <dalbirdy> you have to be sudo to make the kernel headers install
[03:48] <administrator> how can I update mu kubuntu?
[03:48] <administrator> my
[03:48] <Dr_willis> ok.. i dont think i want to buy Domonions3  :)
[03:48] <Dr_willis> I though there was also a new game out.. Savage3 ?
[03:49] <dalbirdy> apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:49] <zero_1> umm...my bad,the one on opensuse 10.2 beta
[03:49] <dalbirdy> for administrator....do this in the terminal....apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:49] <NeedHelp> can anyone tell me why kdm wouldn't show up on the display (its in the process tree) atfer i upgrade from dapper drake to edgy eft
[03:49] <administrator> thanks
[03:49] <shadowhywind> so does anyone have any ideas on why my hibernate would pretend to hibernate and not shutdown?
[03:50] <dalbirdy> i guess by default gdm is the chosen boot manager
[03:50] <administrator> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:50] <administrator> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[03:50] <dalbirdy> you have to be su
[03:50] <BluesKaj> Strange , my cpu is supposed run at 2Ghz , but according to the k-info center list the speed at 1Ghz ...what gives ?
[03:50] <dalbirdy> type the same thing but put sudo at the beginning
[03:50] <aurora_> administrator: start with sudo
[03:50] <administrator> sudo?
[03:50] <daftvader> i need help: I cant get my k7 smp to run with Xorg after edgy eft upgrade
[03:51] <dalbirdy> example........  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:51] <administrator> oh
[03:51] <daftvader> i am using nvidia
[03:51] <dalbirdy> then give it the password
[03:51] <shadowhywind> how werid is this error, sudo shutdown -r now -> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Oct 29 09:31:39 2006
[03:51] <aurora_> help.. how to change owner database automatically from mysql to my user account everytime i create database
[03:52] <administrator> it didnt do anything...
[03:52] <administrator> 0 updated...0 blah blah
[03:52] <dalbirdy> what exactly do you want to do?
[03:52] <NeedHelp> can anyone tell me why kdm wouldn't show up on the display (its in the process tree) atfer i upgrade from dapper drake to edgy eft
[03:52] <dalbirdy> if it said 0 updated it is already up to date
[03:52] <administrator> update the whole kubuntu...i get random crashes and i think an update woul work
[03:53] <dalbirdy> have you tried using the program automatix2
[03:53] <LjL> !automatix
[03:53] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[03:53] <daftvader> automatix doesn't work with edgy
[03:53] <dalbirdy> it doen't update the whole kubuntu but it will help you update the latest kde
[03:54] <Zerb_Riss> Automatix can cause loads of other problems anyways
[03:54] <daftvader> man this is really making my cranky
[03:54] <dalbirdy> i have had no problems with it personally
[03:54] <daftvader> *me
[03:54] <sorush20> no TheGateKeeper I keep getting botted into sandbox.
[03:54] <Zerb_Riss> dalbirdy, I've had luck with it on two installations but it ruined one
[03:54] <jxn> is there a way to get aiglx work on a dual screen setup?
[03:54] <NeedHelp> adminstrator, how owuld i update the whole kubuntu, i changed all of the repositiories in /etc/apt/sources.list from dapper to edgy. ran sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:55] <dalbirdy> come to think about it that is what i did too!!........thanks needhlp for jogging my memory
[03:56] <Zerb_Riss> !upgrade
[03:56] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:56] <Zerb_Riss> you need to get more packages
[03:56] <sistemas> Any help?
[03:56] <daftvader> can some one please help me to get 2.6.15-27.k7 smp to work with my nvidia card
[03:56] <daftvader> argh
[03:56] <gsuveg> Riddell: are you here ?
[03:56] <daftvader> so annoying
[03:57] <daftvader> it used to work under dapper
[03:57] <daftvader> now it doesn't work with edgy
[03:57] <Zerb_Riss> daftvader, what is it doing?
[03:58] <daftvader> Zerb_Riss: it cannot startx
[03:58] <Zerb_Riss> does it give you any errors?
[03:58] <jxn> i would downgrade to dapper and wait for a working driver
[03:58] <daftvader> Zerb_Riss: yes it does, it said that the x module is not compatible with the nvidia
[03:59] <daftvader> something that x module has the version of 1.08774
[03:59] <Zerb_Riss> what card do you have?
[03:59] <daftvader> 7800 GTX
[03:59] <daftvader> GFerce 7800 GTX
[03:59] <TheGateKeeper> sorush20: ok I don't know if this is of any help, but I was getting the same thing after installing another distro & wanting to also boot back into the original, problem turned out to be me making mistakes in menu.lst
[04:00] <daftvader> the thing that annoys me is that the system works fine under dapper
[04:00] <Zerb_Riss> daftvader, hmm... I have a 7600 GT and it works fine under Kubuntu Edgy
[04:00] <daftvader> i think upgrading to edgy change the X modulle
[04:00] <Zerb_Riss> does it work with the nv driver?
[04:00] <shadowhywind> where are the power settings located in edgy now? like the hibernate settings?
[04:00] <daftvader> yes but do you run a k7 smp kernel?
[04:00] <sorush20> TheGateKeeper:
[04:00] <sorush20> I missed you reply
[04:01] <Zerb_Riss> good p[oint, but your problem has to do with the X server, not the kernel
[04:01] <daftvader> it works ok with a 2.6.15 kernel but I have an AMD x2 4800+ dual core
[04:01] <daftvader> yes
[04:01] <TheGateKeeper> sorush20: ok I don't know if this is of any help, but I was getting the same thing after installing another distro & wanting to also boot back into the original, problem turned out to be me making mistakes in menu.lst
[04:01] <daftvader> so how do I downgrade my X-server
[04:01] <daftvader> to dapper
[04:01] <Zerb_Riss> you shouldn't need to
[04:01] <Zerb_Riss> do you have xserver-xorg and kubuntu-desktop installed?
[04:02] <daftvader> well I am on kubuntu destop atm
[04:02] <daftvader> but using a kernel <IP_ADDRESS>-386
[04:02] <sorush20> I never changed the menu list but I don't think that is the problem.. I do get the correct boot up but I get into sand box..
[04:02] <sorush20> TheGateKeeper: you mean the grub menu
[04:02] <Zerb_Riss> daftvader, ah, so you're smp configuration is the only one with problems?
[04:02] <daftvader> if i changed to a <IP_ADDRESS>-k7 smp it doesn't run kubuntu
[04:02] <TheGateKeeper> sorush20: yep
[04:02] <daftvader> yes that is right
[04:03] <daftvader> but the question here is that it used to work perfectly in dapper
[04:03] <daftvader> the kernel doesn't change
[04:03] <daftvader> the nvidia driver doesn't change
[04:04] <Zerb_Riss> daftvader, yah I had a problem like that back when Dapper first came out, but it was with a nic card
[04:04] <daftvader> Zerb_Riss: but the funny thing is my friend
[04:05] <daftvader> when I boot into with my 2.6.17 kernel, nvidia version is 8774
[04:05] <daftvader> but when i boot with my smp kernel, the system said that nvidia module is version 8762
[04:05] <daftvader> so why?
[04:06] <Zerb_Riss> heh no clue... do you have any upgrade candidates in apt?
[04:08] <daftvader> what do you mean by upgrade candidates
[04:13] <dalbirdy> if i was to upgrade to edgy....do you think it would mess up my vmware setup?
[04:13] <Isoss> Hey guys. I am having some problem with my konqourer. when I try to open system:/ it freezes .. and if I hesitate to close it and force it to terminate I might need to restart my system!
[04:13] <Isoss> any idea what couldn the problem be?
[04:15] <jaba_vg> #kubuntu-es
[04:15] <jaba_vg> como se va ayi?
[04:15] <daftvader> how do i find my nvidia verison in the command line?
[04:15] <daftvader> *version
[04:16] <sistemas> When I loading my desktop
[04:16] <sistemas> ,there appear 12 crash reports
[04:16] <sistemas> aobut i/o  buffer failed
[04:16] <Kiongku> dalbirdy: probably.
[04:16] <sistemas>  I use dmesg | grep -i falil
[04:16] <sistemas> fail
[04:17] <dalbirdy> i think i am going to leave it just like this for a while....
[04:17] <sistemas> and show me cdrom fail
[04:17] <sistemas> Do anybody know the solution?
[04:18] <weedar> Is there a way to turn off holding back packages, in other words upgrade ALL upgradeable packages?
[04:19] <Kiongku> weedar: enable everything in ur sources.list
[04:19] <Zerb_Riss> !aiglx
[04:19] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[04:20] <Isoss> sorry got disconnected. any help concerning my problem?
[04:20] <weedar> Kiongku: How do you mean? There are no lines that are commented out (except for actual comments)
[04:20] <Zerb_Riss> weedar, apt-get -u dist-upgrade|grep ^' '|xargs apt-get -y install
[04:21] <Kiongku> lsoss: what u mean by system:?
[04:22] <weedar> Thanks a bundle Zerb_Riss, I'll have to do some thinking to understand what that actually did :) (but it works)
[04:22] <Isoss> root
[04:23] <Kiongku> hmm
[04:23] <sistemas> please I want to solve this problems
[04:23] <Kiongku> ya need to learn those things myself.. argh.. codes..
[04:23] <Zerb_Riss> weedar, it just gets a list of all the package names that apt-get -u dist-upgrade return, greps through it for package names, then runs apt-get install on the results
[04:23] <Isoss> I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the program to no avail! it doesn't seem broken!
[04:23] <Isoss> but maybe it's a configuration problem!
[04:24] <weedar> Zerb_Riss: okay. I get alot of dependency errors though (and the -y installs anyway)
[04:24] <Zerb_Riss> weedar, if you're upgrading to Edgy from Dapper you should follow these instructions exactly
[04:24] <Zerb_Riss> !upgrade | weedar
[04:24] <ubotu> weedar: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:25] <weedar> Zerb_Riss: I already upgraded from dapper to edgy, using the informatinon on kubuntu.org - just that alot of python packages were held back
[04:25] <Zerb_Riss> weedar, okay, it should be fine then
[04:25] <buff> could anyone tell me how to update sources.list on kubuntu 6.10   ?
[04:26] <Isoss> buff: edit it
[04:26] <buff> how ?
[04:26] <Isoss> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:27] <sistemas> other question
[04:27] <Isoss> or use any other editor instead of nano
[04:27] <sistemas> I have a integrated video card PCchips
[04:27] <sistemas> Can I install openGL
[04:27] <buff> yes but what to type ?
[04:27] <Ash-Fox> !soundcard
[04:27] <Isoss> buff: what do u need to update exactly?
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundcard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <buff> i mean ap-get isn't working
[04:28] <sistemas> No is a integrated motherboard PCchips
[04:28] <Isoss> buff: please explain the problem!
[04:28] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, probably not, you're probably stuck with MesaGL
[04:29] <buff> ok, i wanna to install xchat but when i type 'sudo apt-get install xchat' it isn't working
[04:30] <Isoss> buff: what error or out put do u get when you try to instal xchat?
[04:30] <sistemas> I want to use openGL with my integrated video card
[04:30] <sistemas> Can I do that?
[04:30] <Zerb_Riss> probably not
[04:30] <buff> lsoss  'couldn't find package'
[04:31] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, what kind of card is it?
[04:31] <buff> i think i need to enable repositories but i dont know how
[04:31] <NeedHelp> i followed the guide for updating from dapper drake to edgy eft in kubuntu, and when i run startx i get this error - (module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1)) and (Failed to load module "ati" (Module requirement mismatch,0)) and (no drivers available)
[04:31] <sistemas> Do you know whats PCchips?
[04:31] <sistemas> Do you know what's PCchips?
[04:32] <Isoss> xchat is a universe package. do u have your universe repositories activated in your sources.list?
[04:32] <Isoss> enabled*
[04:32] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, that's the kind of motherboard you have
[04:32] <sistemas> yes
[04:32] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, we need to know what kind of card is integrated onto it
[04:32] <buff> lsoss no
[04:32] <buff> tell me how
[04:33] <NeedHelp> i followed the guide for updating from dapper drake to edgy eft in kubuntu, and when i run startx i get this error - (module ABI major version (0) doesn't match the server's version (1)) and (Failed to load module "ati" (Module requirement mismatch,0)) and (no drivers available)
[04:33] <Kiongku> NeedHelp: its a lot of hasssle to upgrade. just do a clean install
[04:33] <buff> or give a link pls
[04:33] <Isoss> buff: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:33] <Zerb_Riss> NeedHelp, you may need to reinstall the ATI driver
[04:33] <Kiongku> darn we need to put a warning sign in those upgrade pages
[04:33] <NeedHelp> which package is the generic ati driver in
[04:34] <Isoss> buff: you may edit it with kate instead of nano
[04:34] <buff> yes but what should a type
[04:35] <buff> yes but what should i type
[04:35] <Isoss> something like this: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[04:35] <Isoss> are u using dapper?
[04:35] <buff> no
[04:35] <buff> 6.10
[04:35] <Isoss> then what?
[04:36] <sistemas> I don't know what type is it?
[04:36] <NeedHelp> sweet
[04:36] <Isoss> hmmm .. I am still on dapper. go to ubuntuforums and check the repositories forum for your problem
[04:36] <sistemas> It's a pentium 4 motherboard
[04:36] <Isoss> I guess you might just need to change from dapper to edgy, not sure though
[04:36] <sistemas> it's has  a Intel 845GL/GV chipset
[04:36] <ubuntu_> hi. what's the login+password for the kubuntu edgy live cd? i *think* the username is "ubuntu" but i can't find the password. i need to log out once to reload some settings, but i can't log in again.
[04:37] <Kiongku> !bzip
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bzip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <Kiongku> ubuntu: never knew it had any login and password?
[04:38] <Kiongku> !bzip2
[04:38] <ubotu> bzip2: high-quality block-sorting file compressor - utilities. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.3-3 (edgy), package size 259 kB, installed size 484 kB
[04:38] <ubuntu_> Kiongku: well, it logs in automatically when you boot, but i need to log out once and then back in.
[04:38] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, then all you can use is the default i810 driver with MesaGL
[04:38] <Kiongku> leave all blank XD?
[04:38] <sistemas> buff
[04:38] <ubuntu_> Kiongku: ubuntu (gnome) automatically logs back in after 10 seconds, but kubuntu doesn't
[04:38] <sistemas> What Can I do?
[04:39] <Kiongku> duh...
[04:39] <ubuntu_> Kiongku: leaving it blank didn't work, but thanks for the tip :)
[04:39] <Kiongku> flaw in the system
[04:39] <jaba_vg> como voy a kubuntu-es
[04:39] <sistemas> dime estas usando konversation
[04:40] <jaba_vg> si
[04:40] <sistemas> a ya
[04:40] <Kiongku> ubuntu_: may be u'r only option is to redo it :(
[04:40] <sistemas> si ps
[04:40] <sistemas> por defecto
[04:40] <sistemas> carga ese canal
[04:40] <sistemas> ingresa esto:
[04:40] <Zerb_Riss> !es | sistemas
[04:40] <ubotu> sistemas: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:40] <ubuntu_> Kiongku: hm yeah perhaps. i was hoping for an easy solution. :) thanks
[04:41] <sistemas> I know that ubotu
[04:42] <sistemas> I have in Intermediate English in my college
[04:42] <sistemas> Well
[04:43] <sistemas> I want to install openGL in my integrated video card
[04:43] <Kiongku> ... check what chipset it is.
[04:43] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, your integrated card's driver doesn't have native OpenGL support
[04:43] <Zerb_Riss> the i810 driver
[04:43] <sistemas> it's Intel 845GL/GV
[04:44] <ecokiller> while testing the DVD, I cant get kubuntu to connect to my home network
[04:45] <yacoob> is there any del.icio.us and filterset.g integration for konqueror?
[04:45] <slow-motion> re
[04:45] <ecokiller> cant enable the wirless

[04:46] <sistemas> It means that I can't use openGL in my card
[04:46] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, what are you trying to enable OpenGL for?
[04:48] <sistemas> I want to enable OpenGL for Mupen64
[04:48] <sistemas> The graphics are very bad
[04:48] <shadowhywind> i think i might have found my hibernate problem, when i try to hibernate i get Some modules failed to unload: nvidia, hibernate: Aborting suspend due to errors in ModulesUnloadBlacklist (use --force to override).
[04:48] <sistemas> with my native graphics libraries
[04:49] <Zerb_Riss> sistemas, yah it's likely because it's using MesaGL
[04:49] <Zerb_Riss> !i810
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i810 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <mulder> Back again. Hello all. I need help with a few things, and I have been trying hard, but with no success
[04:49] <sistemas> How change MesaGL to OpenGL?
[04:50] <mulder> anybody who could kindly help me please?
[04:52] <sistemas> Any ideas?
[04:54] <mulder> wow everybody must be at the beach! :-)
[04:54] <Isoss> hey guys .. yesterday I checked the new mandrake distro, and I was amazed by the 3d desktop it has with it's kde ... isn't there a similar one for kubuntu?
[04:55] <xsacha> lsoss you mean beryl?
[04:56] <Isoss> maybe!
[04:56] <Sharketor> hello
[04:56] <xsacha> cube and wobbly windows?
[04:56] <TheGateKeeper> !upgrade > TheGateKeeper
[04:56] <MetaMorfoziS> !beryl
[04:56] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl. Thank You.
[04:56] <MetaMorfoziS> ragh
[04:56] <mulder> I need some help please people!
[04:57] <Sharketor> is there in kubuntu something like "show desktop" in windows?
[04:57] <xsacha> ctrl+alt+D
[04:57] <Isoss> I installed 3ddesktop from ubuntu repos, but dunno how to get it to work! but anyway, I've been told that it's not as cool as the one in mandrake
[04:58] <xsacha> lsoss: im assuming you mean beryl, join #beryl -- anything in mandrake is possible in any distro
[04:58] <Sharketor> xsascha: tnx
[04:58] <xsacha> i dont think 3ddesktop is what you want :S
[04:58] <Sharketor> and a tats'
[04:58] <mulder> first, I need to remove the sidebar on the left, don't know how it got there!
[04:58] <sistemas_> well guys
[04:58] <sistemas_> I wait a solution
[04:59] <sistemas_> I guess that it exits
[04:59] <sistemas_> I have to go
[04:59] <Sharketor> and a key to do it?
[04:59] <cps1966> you can put icon in task bar also for desktop
[05:00] <|vince|> hello
[05:00] <some0ne> 'morning
[05:00] <Isoss> ok xsacha, I'll check it ... anyway, I need to konw how 3ddesktop works!
[05:00] <mulder>  but I have this grey bar on the left of my screen with a few icons...I want to remove it. How can I do that?
[05:01] <cps1966> right click bottom panel and add applet show desktop
[05:01] <Isoss> I can't find it in my menu
[05:01] <|vince|> its me from myspace willy
[05:01] <mulder> oh yes done :-)! Thank you cps
[05:01] <mulder> now...more serious stuff :-)
[05:02] <xsacha> 3ddesktop says it requires a window manager compatible with the GNOME pager standard -- unsure
[05:02] <mulder> I have an audigy 2 zs card, but it isn't recognized. as well as my logitech camera and canon printer.
[05:02] <bionic> hello..I just installed kubuntu, but after reboot grubs says, "Grub Loading stage 1.5. Grub loading please wait error 17". I have bootet with a live cd now and im looking at the menu.lst.. Got no idea what may be wrong. Can anyone please help?
[05:02] <mulder> the first one is important. Somebody knows how I can have that card recognized?
[05:03] <cps1966> !sound
[05:03] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:03] <mulder> well my intel hda onboard card is working...but I want the audigy to work instead.
[05:04] <cps1966> look above
[05:04] <Isoss>  #bery1 isn't a channel!
[05:04] <xsacha> lsoss: beryl with an "L"
[05:04] <cps1966> #ubuntu-glx
[05:04] <xsacha> when you see a channel name you can click it to avoid typos
[05:04] <Sharketor> how can i do automatic login'
[05:05] <Sharketor> ?
[05:05] <Ahmuck> why  ??
[05:05] <[GuS] > Hi prople! anyone knows how to fix this bug? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kcontrol-autostart/+bug/67609
[05:05] <ecokiller> does anyone know how to get the wep password key thats already saved on computer?
[05:05] <xsacha> Sharketor: using konversation?
[05:05] <Sharketor> no, login in kubuntu
[05:05] <xsacha> Sharketor: or you mean KDE login?
[05:05] <Sharketor> just that
[05:05] <Isoss> oops
[05:05] <Isoss> ok
[05:05] <Sharketor> the second one
[05:05] <siddharth> i am using ubuntu 6.06, kernel version 2.6.15. for a project, i need to install kernel 2.4.22. Is it possible to compile and install 2.4.22 and have both kernels coexist peacefully?
[05:05] <xsacha> Sharketor: go to System Settings->Advanced->Login Manager
[05:06] <Sharketor> ok thanks
[05:06] <xsacha> Sharketor: in "Convenience" tab there will be auto-login
[05:06] <Sharketor> it's a great chan
[05:07] <siddharth> as in: can i do the development on 2.6.15 (use it to hack the 2.4.22 kernel) and then compile it and install it and boot into it?
[05:07] <Sharketor> I'm using gaim, but sometimes it disconects. Why?
[05:08] <xsacha> no idea :P i use kopete
[05:08] <Sharketor> kopete too
[05:08] <siddharth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287951
[05:08] <siddharth> please help!
[05:08] <Sharketor> it doesn't send message
[05:08] <Sharketor> it gives me error
[05:08] <Zerb_Riss> !aiglx
[05:08] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[05:09] <flo_> how can i make akregator see the flash plugin that i have already installed? i'm on a gnome desktop
[05:09] <siddharth> #servers
[05:09] <xsacha> never happened here, don't know what it could be Sharketor
[05:09] <nickv111> Hi. For some reason, amaroK on Ubuntu 6.10 will not play my mp3 files. I can play Ogg, but not mp3. It simply skips over all of the MP3s
[05:09] <nickv111> How do I get it to play mp3?
[05:09] <xsacha> !mp3
[05:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:10] <nickv111> Thanks.
[05:12] <Sharketor> ok
[05:13] <kay_> anyone knows a good and easy music make program?
[05:13] <mulder> strange I have the sound but no image in kaffeine when I play AVI files!
[05:16] <nickv111> Okay. I am using the xine lib for amaroK, and I still cannot play mp3s even though I installed a bunch of the packages noted on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:16] <xunix> help.. how to chmod my ntfs partition in my kubuntu
[05:17] <xunix> it's say read only file system
[05:17] <knapper> dudes
[05:17] <knapper> how do I add something to startup on kde?
[05:18] <xsacha> xunix: ntfs write isn't so hot right now, but if you want write: kdesu konqueror /media  then right click on the drive and properties->permissions change user from root to your login name
[05:19] <mulder> Dear me I feel like I am trying to sell carpets on a persian market! avi files don't play in kaffeine, is there any better player for kubuntu?
[05:19] <xunix> xsacha: ok,
[05:20] <exhale> if i wanted to develop with QT, what do i need to download?
[05:20] <xsacha> exhale: the QT headers, probably KDE headers, KDevelop
[05:20] <Homer> you don't need kdevelop!
[05:20] <xsacha> haha ok ;)
[05:21] <exhale> :/
[05:21] <exhale> i have never programmed before, i just wanted to try it out
[05:21] <Homer> oh
[05:21] <xsacha> when you compile it'll tell you if you're missing something
[05:21] <Homer> use kdevelop
[05:21] <Homer> and buy a book
[05:21] <Homer> lol
[05:21] <b0ysc0ut> can i use Gnash to play flash movies?kuz i got a AMD64 and macromedia dosent support 64 bit's
[05:21] <exhale> i cant apt-get it :(
[05:21] <Homer> apt-get install kdevelop
[05:22] <exhale> is kdevelop replaced with kdesdk-scripts?
[05:22] <Homer> an do seach for "qt" in adept
[05:22] <Homer> download like everything
[05:22] <exhale> it says kdevelop is replaced
[05:22] <xsacha> dont need transitional ones or QT4 ones (unless you're going to be making for QT4)
[05:23] <Lynoure> Sounds like a lot of overkill if he has never programmed anything before
[05:23] <exhale> ...
[05:23] <ecokiller> anyone know how to retireve a wep key password on a computer?
[05:23] <xsacha> exhale: http://women.kde.org/articles/tutorials/kdevelop3/ and join some programming channel
[05:23] <mulder> Ok bye anyway.
[05:24] <yacoob> kdevelop is only for C/C++?
[05:24] <Homer> no
[05:24] <xsacha> ignote the "women"
[05:24] <xsacha> ignore*
[05:24] <yacoob> Homer, good, I was about to add 'poor exhale' if he was to tackle C :>
[05:25] <xsacha> well he said he wanted to do something QT related?
[05:25] <exhale> i cant seem to get kdevelop from the repos, says its aged and perhaps replaced with kdesdk-scripts
[05:25] <xsacha> he could of course just mess around with QTDesigner and barely do any code -- just follow that tutorial for eg. :)
[05:26] <yacoob> xsacha, but there are qt bindings for other languages? or not?
[05:26] <Homer> yes many
[05:26] <xsacha> for java, ...
[05:26] <Homer> python
[05:26] <Homer> ruby
[05:27] <xsacha> telepathy
[05:27] <yacoob> the last one is good.
[05:27] <yacoob> Lemme try visualising an evil qt dialog on xsacha screen, hrmph....
[05:31] <juaaaa> archangel_ you have got msn
[05:31] <keins> was
[05:31] <juaaaa> keins you have got msn
[05:32] <juaaaa><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:32] <juaaaa> copy
[05:32] <juaaaa> and paste
[05:32] <keins> wo bin ich
[05:32] <stamen> hi
[05:32] <juaaaa> stamen hi
[05:32] <stamen> I want to ask,
[05:33] <juaaaa> bay copy my msn
[05:33] <stamen> is Edgy a stable version of the new
[05:33] <stamen> kubuntu
[05:33] <stamen> is it stabel as dapper
[05:34] <stamen> is it stable
[05:34] <exhale> yes otherwise they wouldn't have released it as a final version
[05:34] <xsacha> yes, it was released final 2 days ago
[05:35] <stamen> ok
[05:35] <stamen> which repositories I must use to download it
[05:35] <stamen> without downloading the CD
[05:35] <stamen> or I have to download it
[05:35] <xunix> xsacha: it's says => X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:35] <sorush20> hi i keep getting to the message that can't access job control tty turned off what do I do?
[05:36] <exhale> !upgrade
[05:36] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:36] <xsacha> !ntfs | xunix
[05:36] <xunix> xsacha: i still can't chmod my ntfs
[05:36] <ubotu> xunix: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:36] <stamen> 10x
[05:36] <xsacha> hmm thats to view, just wait.. ill find a page
[05:36] <xunix> ubotu: yup
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <xunix> ubotu: i try to chmod my ntfs partition
[05:37] <exhale> lol...
[05:37] <exhale> xunix: its a bot
[05:37] <xunix> oOo
[05:37] <xsacha> here xunix: http://bisqwit.iki.fi/story/howto/ntfs/
[05:37] <xunix> hahaha
[05:37] <xunix> ok
[05:37] <xsacha> write to ntfs means you cannot change filesize
[05:38] <darkfinal> Does anyone here know about the "Synth devices: Not enabled in config" issue?
[05:39] <stamen> !upgrade
[05:39] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:40] <xunix> xsacha: so i can't edit my file in my ntfs ?
[05:41] <xsacha> you can, but the filesize cannot change
[05:41] <stamen> what I have to do, if I want to upgrade my dapper from the new Edgy CD
[05:41] <xunix> is this same with FAT32 ?
[05:41] <jack_> I've started Adept and wanted to check my repositories a find a lot of grey text on that page.  Are those all delete-able?
[05:42] <stamen> did somebody do this
[05:42] <jack_> a=and
[05:42] <xsacha> no not same with FAT32
[05:42] <xunix> xsacha: ok.. thx
[05:43] <xsacha> you can read and write to FAT32 from almost every operating system that exists
[05:43] <[Deathmaster] > stamen:  i think u need to download the allternate install cd
[05:43] <[Deathmaster] > i downloaded the install one
[05:43] <stamen> ok
[05:43] <[Deathmaster] > i didn' work
[05:43] <xunix> so its better change my ntfs to fat32 ?
[05:43] <stamen> 'Deathma
[05:44] <stamen> and what to do after downloading it
[05:44] <xsacha> xunix: you can turn ntfs to fat32? ok
[05:44] <stamen> does it know whta to upgrade
[05:44] <stamen> this alternate Cd
[05:44] <xsacha> xunix: i know you can turn fat32 to ntfs but didnt know reverse
[05:45] <omicron> hi there.. i am not able to activate us alt-intl keyboard layout on kubuntu edgy using kcontrol. does anybody know how to get that working?
[05:45] <xunix> yap
[05:48] <nutshell42> could someone point me to the paragraph in the (k)ubuntu mission statement that reads "at no point shall this distribution betray its proud history by shipping with a working partitioner"?
[05:49] <nutshell42> dapper hung when trying to actually mount the partitions
[05:50] <nutshell42> eft tells me "no root file system" for reasons I don't understand
[05:51] <xsacha> hehe, the partitioner worked for me but i used fdisk anyway so i could use reiser, bootloader didnt work though but i wanted lilo anyway
[05:52] <nutshell42> I'm not sure how it's implemented so I may have been unfair to the partitioner
[05:52] <nutshell42> the problem is not actually partitioning the disk
[05:52] <nutshell42> but specifying the mount points
[05:53] <SHRIKEE> lol
[05:53] <SHRIKEE> busted
[05:53] <nutshell42> or more precisely, choosing the root partition and giving it the mount point "/" doesn't seem to satisfy the installer
[05:53] <xsacha> nutshell42: would that be an extended partition? tried a primary?
[05:53] <nutshell42> it complains "no root file system"
[05:53] <nutshell42> xsacha: it's an extended, but:
[05:53] <SHRIKEE> i believe you need atleast a / and a /boot
[05:53] <nutshell42> a) I have a primary /boot partition
[05:53] <nutshell42> and
[05:54] <xsacha> dont need a /boot
[05:54] <nutshell42> b) if that's really its problem (i.e. it doesn't like extended partitions and doesn't accept the /boot) then that would be one useless error msg
[05:55] <xsacha> hehe, i think it just doesn't like extended partition as root
[05:55] <nutshell42> oh and the /boot partition is active
[05:55] <nutshell42> so it can't even be that
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> is /boot a primary partition>
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> ?
[05:55] <xsacha> yes
[05:55] <nutshell42> yes
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> k
[05:55] <exhale> does it matter though? linux doesnt care
[05:55] <nutshell42> if it doesn't like extendeds as root at all
[05:55] <exhale> k
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> i ' ve read somewhere that /boot needs to be a primary partition
[05:56] <exhale> well thats why all my partitions are primary :P
[05:56] <xsacha> but you can only have 4 primary partitions :S
[05:56] <exhale> true
[05:56] <exhale> i dont have more than 3 though
[05:56] <nutshell42> is there an install guide somewhere?
[05:56] <nutshell42> the doc on kubuntu don't seem to contain one
[05:57] <SHRIKEE> whats wrong with default partitioning
[05:57] <jerp> 15 minutes later: okie doke, I'll take the lack of response to my question to mean that you don't think I took a shower this morning and not that I had a stupid question.
[05:57] <blackflag> hello all :)
[05:57] <nutshell42> SHRIKEE: that I'd have to delete 160gigs worth of perfectly fine partitions just to amuse kubuntu?
[05:57] <nutshell42> =P
[05:57] <SHRIKEE> hmm thats sily
[05:57] <SHRIKEE> silly
[05:57] <xsacha> i just scrolled up an hour and didnt see your message jerp :S
[05:58] <cps1966> had to resort to debian java packages to get it to work
[05:58] <xsacha> oh you're jack_
[05:58] <jerp> yeah :)
[05:58] <blackflag> I just upgrade from dapper to edgy and I want to know where I can find the new hardware database manager ?
[05:58] <xsacha> dont get your question
[05:58] <jerp> xsacha: I'm just yanking your chain, or anyone elses along with ya
[05:58] <SHRIKEE> isnt edgy an older version?
[05:58] <jerp> nevermind
[05:59] <xsacha> edgy was released 2 days ago
[05:59] <SHRIKEE> ah i see, nm
[05:59] <jerp> xsacha: I'm just a pathetic newb
[05:59] <Trollinator> So what?
[05:59] <Trollinator> you're a newb, you're still expected to think for yourself...
[06:00] <jerp> a helplessly pathetic newb
[06:00] <jerp> Trollinator: what's a help channel for?
[06:01] <jerp> to swap recipes?
[06:01] <Trollinator> To give hints so that one can find the solution by himself... not more and not less
[06:01] <SHRIKEE> stop calling yourself pathetic, idiot
[06:01] <SHRIKEE> youre not
[06:01] <Kiongku> u should note that all helpes here are volunteers.. no one is obliged to help out to the end thought it may sounds rude
[06:01] <jerp> :)
[06:01] <Kiongku> helpes/helpers
[06:02] <xunix> ok guys.. enough for this day.. sooo tired :D
[06:02] <xunix> bubyee
[06:02] <johey> Anyone using Vice C64 emulator? apt-cache show vice tells " This package does not contain the various ROM images needed to actually use the emulators but includes a script which will attempt to download them from a number of well-known locations." Ok, but where is this script located and how do I run it?
[06:04] <some0ne> .
[06:04] <darkfinal> I've installed kubuntu-desktop in my Ubuntu installation since I've got bored of Gnome... and everything works perfect with KDE now, but I have NO sound...
[06:04] <jerp> After having read the greyed out text and taken time to consider it's meaning I have reconsidered and retract my inquire.  Thanks it's been a pleasure doing business with everyone. :)
[06:04] <SHRIKEE> ..
[06:04] <darkfinal> ALSA recognises both my sound cards (an AudigyLS and an integrated AC97) but there's no synth...
[06:04] <some0ne> darkfinal, Run kmix.
[06:05] <darkfinal> I have it running... but the synth list is empty.
[06:05] <some0ne> Hm
[06:05] <some0ne> That may have something to do with arts.
[06:05] <some0ne> Don't know.
[06:06] <some0ne> What kind of sound hardware you got there?
[06:06] <darkfinal> Copy/paste from KInfoCenter:
[06:07] <darkfinal> Audio devices: 0:NVidia CK804 (DUPLEX)  1: USB Audio  2: CA0106 (DUPLEX)
[06:07] <darkfinal> Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG (???)
[06:07] <RawSewage> I found a nice feature on Konversation today:  F6  (URL Catcher)
[06:07] <larson9999> johey: i use vice but i don't use that feature.  i use roms i downloaded
[06:07] <johey> larson9999: Ok.
[06:08] <johey> larson9999: Where do you put the roms then?
[06:09] <larson9999> johey: you can put them anywhere you want.  there is a dialogue that asks you what file you want to attach to which device
[06:11] <johey> larson9999: Hmm. As I start x64, it just quits with a message "C64MEM: Error - Couldn't load kernal ROM `kernal'. Machine initialization failed."
[06:12] <larson9999> johey: yeah, i got that too.  hmmm, i haven't used vice since i upgraded to edgy.
[06:12] <larson9999> johey: have to fix that.  i use vice a lot
[06:12] <johey> larson9999: Ok. I'll google for it for a while then.
[06:14] <SHRIKEE> is it any use to upgrade to edgy, from dapper?
[06:14] <SHRIKEE> or are there no big changes
[06:16] <ubuntu_> Hello, I'm switching from Ubuntu Dapper to Kubuntu edgy, but I'm having a problem with the installation. Right now I'm in the prepare mount points screen, the root directory is set but when I hit continue I get this: No root file sistem.
[06:17] <nutshell42> SHRIKEE: well, it fixed old problems and replaced them with a completely new set of things that desperatly need to be fixed =P
[06:17] <SHRIKEE> hmm
[06:17] <SHRIKEE> sounds bad
[06:17] <nutshell42> btw. installation seems to be working no, deleting and recreating the partition seems to have helped
[06:17] <nutshell42> ubuntu_: I had the same problem
[06:17] <SHRIKEE> thats good nutshell42
[06:17] <nutshell42> you have to delete the old root partition
[06:18] <nutshell42> and recreate it
[06:18] <Zerb_Riss> how do I change the allowed screen resolutions??
[06:18] <SHRIKEE> sounds like a newer version of /boot needs to be made...
[06:18] <Zerb_Riss> the stupid thing is only letting me use 1024x768
[06:18] <ubuntu_> nutshell42: Ok thanks I'll do that.
[06:18] <nutshell42> Zerb_Riss: in the system settings?
[06:18] <nutshell42> if it doesn't allow you higher resolutions there
[06:18] <ubuntu_> nutshell42: do you know why is that happening?
[06:19] <nutshell42> ubuntu_: because it's fubar =)
[06:19] <SHRIKEE> ubuntu_: version change probably
[06:19] <SHRIKEE> nutshell42: what kinda trouble you run in while using edgy? instead of dapper
[06:19] <joe_> anyone know how to install flash nine.  I just started using kebuntu yesterday and all the tutorials aren't working for me
[06:19] <nutshell42> Zerb_Riss: most likely the autodetection didn't work all that well
[06:20] <SHRIKEE> as of yet im not running into bugs or anything, im using dapper
[06:20] <SHRIKEE> joe, linux does not have flash nine afaik
[06:20] <nutshell42> SHRIKEE: that was just a joke; I've never seen a newer version of an OS that didn't just replace the old bugs with new ones
[06:20] <nutshell42> if it's a great update it reduces the number and severity
[06:20] <nutshell42> but nevertheless =)
[06:21] <SHRIKEE> right, nutshell42 i know that, but still. is it worth upgrading?
[06:21] <Zerb_Riss> nutshell42, I installed the nvidia driver and in KDE's syste settings it says I'm still using the nv driver instead of the nvidia driver
[06:21] <joe_> there is a new flash 9 beta test.  a lot of people have installed it correctly and it works
[06:21] <SHRIKEE> beta...
[06:21] <SHRIKEE> ah
[06:21] <SHRIKEE> finally flash 9 :D
[06:21] <nutshell42> SHRIKEE: I just tried the live-cd for half an hour and am now installing it; I really don't know
[06:21] <Blacken> So...is it me, or is dist-upgrading STILL a bad idea?
[06:22] <SHRIKEE> hmm k
[06:22] <St_MPA3b> why kde is better than gnome? :)
[06:22] <nutshell42> Zerb_Riss: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf - look for "nv" and replace it with "nvidia"
[06:22] <TehUni> Blacken: broke a few things for me.
[06:22] <TehUni> seems like a fresh install is the best idea, imo
[06:22] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, you just have to follow the instructions
[06:22] <ubuntu_> Does easyubuntu works for kde?
[06:22] <Zerb_Riss> !upgrade | Blacken
[06:22] <ubotu> Blacken: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:22] <nutshell42> Zerb_Riss: although if you can't set a higher resolution it's more likely that your monitor wasn't configured properly by the autodetection
[06:22] <Zerb_Riss> a bunch of packages were changed names
[06:22] <St_MPA3b> !kde
[06:22] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:23] <TehUni> alot of python stuff is screwed up for me now...
[06:23] <Zerb_Riss> TehUni, screwed up, or just being kept back?
[06:23] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: Sigh. I love that attitude. I installed before they wrote that. I went through the packages and looked at the stuff. It's not "not following instructions" that causes an Edgy dist-upgrade to die in a fire.
[06:23] <joe_> i've got the libflashplayer.so but have trouble putting it in firefox plugins
[06:23] <TehUni> Zerb_Riss: kept back.
[06:23] <Zerb_Riss> TehUni, follow the final instruction
[06:24] <Zerb_Riss> !upgrade TehUni
[06:24] <Zerb_Riss> !upgrade |ehUni
[06:24] <ubotu> ehUni: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:24] <Zerb_Riss> !upgrade | TehUni
[06:24] <ubotu> TehUni: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:24] <Zerb_Riss> sheesh lol
[06:24] <lontra> !mirrors
[06:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:24] <SHRIKEE> that tutorial sounds easy enough
[06:24] <nutshell42> joe_: what problems?
[06:24] <TehUni> joe_: cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[06:24] <St_MPA3b> plz say where kde is better than gnome...
[06:24] <St_MPA3b> plz say where kde is better than gnome...
[06:24] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, I realize that, but when they released the RC for Kubuntu they also said that there would be additional steps
[06:24] <Blacken> SHRIKEE: It's very easy. The problem is that it doesn't always work.
[06:24] <root> hi, i have very interesting problem, when i open kubuntu, in login screen , it doesnt accept my password, when i open console login, it accepts my password. how can i solve this ? my username is alex password is 123
[06:24] <SHRIKEE> hmm
[06:24] <SHRIKEE> not work as in
[06:25] <Zerb_Riss> the Kubuntu team is working on getting update-manager working with Kubuntu, but until then it's going to be a bit more painful
[06:25] <SHRIKEE> broken programs? or broken os
[06:25] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: I installed it the day of Edgy "release." Oddly enough, Edgy's "release" is far, far more screwy than the Knots were.
[06:25] <ruisu> yeah, um, does anybody know why in fstab, they used UUIS' instead of /dev/hda's?
[06:25] <Blacken> SHRIKEE: In the case of my first install, the latter. My second, the former.
[06:25] <SHRIKEE> ...
[06:25] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, I had no problems when I followed the instructions in the RC email exactly
[06:25] <TehUni> mmm
[06:25] <TehUni> will try that now, thanks alot.
[06:25] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: That's great for you. I've heard an earful of broken boxes.
[06:25] <SHRIKEE> strange that it differs per user ;)
[06:26] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, I have had some break, but they were all repaired through apt
[06:26] <Blacken> ruisu: I have no idea whatsoever. It makeths no sense.
[06:26] <root> people, how can i add new user to kubuntu **?
[06:26] <Blacken> root:  adduser
[06:26] <joe_> the package for flash 9 is flash-player-plugin-<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:26] <ruisu> Blaken:yes, and i think that broke my "other os" mount point...
[06:26] <serenity> hi
[06:27] <ruisu> hi
[06:27] <SHRIKEE> sounds to me the upgrade is unstable
[06:27] <SHRIKEE> *doesnt do it yet*
[06:27] <serenity> is here someone with the RL name "Niels"?
[06:27] <Blacken> SHRIKEE: In my experience, it's considerably more unstable than the *beta* CDs.
[06:27] <Blacken> Well, no.
[06:27] <Blacken> Edgy CDs seem to be working flawlessly.
[06:27] <Zerb_Riss> SHRIKEE, if you follow those upgrade instructions you won't have any problems
[06:27] <SHRIKEE> hmm
[06:27] <root> Blacken: it says only one or two names are allowed
[06:27] <joe_> how do I paste a file libflashplayer.so from my desktop to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[06:27] <Zerb_Riss> }
[06:28] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: Don't lie to the people. "You PROBABLY" won't have any problems."
[06:28] <ruisu> is it safe to write back with the hda's?
[06:28] <Blacken> Maybe even "You MIGHT" not have any problems.
[06:28] <Blacken> ruisu: Unknown, I wouldn't try it.
[06:28] <SHRIKEE> blacken, i guess it depends on what programs you use if it works or not
[06:28] <SHRIKEE> im using a fairly default install and nothing custom compiled
[06:28] <ruisu> hmm, ok, thanks, ill mount manually
[06:28] <ruisu> gbye
[06:28] <johey> larson9999: They shall be in /usr/lib/vice and they can be found at funet. However, in that package one file name is misspelled (kernel instead of kernal) and one is missing (C64/chargen).
[06:28] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, just because you had problems by not following the instructions doesn't mean other people will by following them
[06:29] <root> hi, i have very interesting problem, when i open kubuntu, in login screen , it doesnt accept my password, when i open console login, it accepts my password. how can i solve this ? my username is alex password is 123
[06:29] <SHRIKEE> lol Zerb_Riss
[06:29] <Zerb_Riss> I've had no problems when following those instructions
[06:29] <johey> larson9999: Have you any idea where to find that chargen file?
[06:29] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: I was one of the people who was around when the instructions were BEING WRITTEN. I was one of the first people to try them on my second dist-upgrade. They DO NOT WORK for everyone.
[06:29] <SHRIKEE> how long does the update take, Zerb_Riss?
[06:29] <Blacken> Can I make this any more crystal bloody clear?
[06:30] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, no because it's untrue.
[06:30] <t> hello everybody
[06:30] <Zerb_Riss> some people are having prob
[06:30] <SHRIKEE> oh stop fighting you 2
[06:30] <Zerb_Riss> lems*
[06:30] <TehUni> mmm... it's safe to upgrade all these held back packages?
[06:30] <SHRIKEE> what are held back packages?
[06:30] <TehUni> python, mainly
[06:30] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: I will direct you to ubuntuforums where...uh...most of a freaking bajillion people are having trouble.
[06:30] <Zerb_Riss> 99% of them have unofficial repositories or didn't follow the instructions that the Kubuntu team released with the RC
[06:31] <ivan> buenas, tengo un problema con el sonido despues de actualizar a dapper
[06:31] <Zerb_Riss> TehUni, yes, it's recommended
[06:31] <TehUni> ok, cool
[06:31] <TehUni> thanks
[06:31] <Blacken> They have unofficial repositories because there's no way AROUND having unofficial repositories.
[06:31] <SHRIKEE> why are they held back?
[06:31] <feldegast> TehUni: i found that the cdromupgrade upgraded python
[06:31] <t> can anyone help me with a problem after upgrading > edgy
[06:31] <SHRIKEE> grr
[06:31] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, no, they have unoffical repositories because the Ubuntu team has legal restrictions on what they can include in theirs
[06:31] <SHRIKEE> Zerb_Riss: how long does a web-upgrade take?
[06:32] <ivan> i lost my sound after updating from breezy to dapper
[06:32] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: Exactly. There's no sane way around having unofficial repos.
[06:32] <t> >ivan no creo que hay tanta gente hablando espanol
[06:32] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, and they want that software. It's always recommended to disable any repositories that are not official when you dist-upgrade
[06:32] <Zerb_Riss> SHRIKEE, depends on your net connection. Took me about 20 minutes
[06:32] <Blacken> And from a cursory look at Ubuntuforums, almost 50% of people had serious or system-breaking problems, and another 35% had "a few problems".
[06:32] <SHRIKEE> i manage fine withouu iunoficial reps
[06:33] <SHRIKEE> k , Zerb_Riss.. im gonna try and upgrade ;)
[06:33] <SHRIKEE> bbiab
[06:33] <Blacken> Hmm. I'm going to go out on a limb and say there are problems, seeing as how the numbers for Breezy->Dapper were never this bad.
[06:33] <Zerb_Riss> I disagree
[06:33] <Zerb_Riss> people are having more trouble because they aren't looking for or following the directions
[06:33] <ivan> i have a ac97 sound card
[06:34] <feldegast> ivan: that doesn't mean much.....what drivers does it use?
[06:34] <Blacken> That's nice. Maybe it should be a more intelligent installer, then. As it is, the numbers of people who had broken systems (according to a Breezy->Dapper poll) was 4%. 4% to 45%. I wonder...
[06:35] <johey> larson9999: I downloaded WinVICE and found the rom in there. Now it works.
[06:35] <ivan> snd-ac97-codec i think
[06:35] <feldegast> the cdromupgrade uses the core repositories, does the upgrade and then resets them
[06:36] <larson9999> johey: i think it might be a plf thing.
[06:36] <johey> larson9999: plf?
[06:36] <larson9999> johey: thanks for the info
[06:36] <ivan> i've tried with modconf to stop it but it tells my that it is in use
[06:36] <larson9999> penquin liberation front
[06:36] <Zerb_Riss> Blacken, maybe so, but update-manager isn't compatible with Kubuntu still. People who used update-manager in Gnome shouldn't have had problems
[06:36] <johey> larson9999: Lol, yes. :)
[06:37] <feldegast> ivan: try disabling it in the bios?
[06:37] <Blacken> Zerb_Riss: And GNOME sucks. Next question! Seriously though--there is no excuse for having official distros that can't do something as simple as upgrading without exploding.
[06:37] <larson9999> johey: it's down and i think i used to get vice from there.  maybe it included the rom
[06:38] <larson9999> johey: anyway.  thanks for the info
[06:38] <ivan> how can i know it?
[06:38] <larson9999> on 2nd thought things don't seem exactly right.  i think i'll do a fresh install of edgy after all
[06:39] <ivan> with breezy i had no problems
[06:39] <Blacken> larson9999: That's the smartest way to do it (most unfortunately).
[06:39] <johey> larson9999: I don't know about that... I'm using dapper and have not yet updated my system. Still I had those vice problems.
[06:39] <larson9999> Blacken: well the upgrade did work and i don't see anything that i can prove isn't right but it just doesn't 'feel right'
[06:39] <feldegast> ivan: i don't use onboard sound, i found it caused too much conflict with other things, not to mention took resources away from the cpu
[06:40] <feldegast> try disabling the ac97 in the bios, then re-enabling it?
[06:40] <johey> larson9999: Do you know if there is some alternative GUI for Vice? This lesstif thingy is, imho, totally unusable.
[06:40] <larson9999> johey: where did you get vice from?
[06:41] <feldegast> if it is an nforce board u might need newer nforce drivers
[06:41] <johey> larson9999: multiverse
[06:41] <ivan> ok, i'll try
[06:41] <St_MPA3b> plz say where kde is better than gnome...
[06:41] <ivan> thankyou
[06:41] <joe_> I've always used windowsxp and have spent 3 days trying to simple tasks like installing flash so I can use metacafe.com would I be better off going to mepis or linspire?
[06:41] <larson9999> johey: then it might be a plf thing.  i always got it from plf.
[06:41] <johey> larson9999: Ah, so plf is a repository?
[06:42] <larson9999> johey yeah.  has non free stuff
[06:42] <larson9999> johey: and things that are in the 'grey area'
[06:42] <t> hi, can so hlp me with a problem after upgrading
[06:42] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: down to personal preference, if you are used to windows then you will probable find kde easier to get on with
[06:42] <t> scrolling works terribly
[06:42] <johey> larson9999: I see.
[06:43] <johey> larson9999: Do you know if there is some alternative GUI for Vice? This lesstif thingy is, imho, totally unusable.
[06:43] <DrZoot> i dont know why people always pidgeon hole kde as the "windows clone"
[06:43] <larson9999> johey: so it wouldn't have an issue including the rom whereas ubuntu might
[06:43] <larson9999> johey: i don't know.  the default worked for me.
[06:43] <johey> larson9999: Ok.
[06:43] <joe_> gatekeeper isnt kubuntu kde
[06:44] <larson9999> DrZoot: because it looks like windows?
[06:44] <t> hi, can so hlp me with a problem after upgrading - scrolling hangs terribly
[06:44] <TheGateKeeper> joe_: kubuntu uses KDE as the default desktop
[06:44] <DrZoot> larson9999: as far as im aware just about every gui ever made could be compared to windows, theres only so many ways you can solve the problem
[06:45] <larson9999> DrZoot: sure.  but when just about everyone has used windows, that's what gets picked.
[06:45] <feldegast> t which graphics drivers?
[06:46] <bobbyyu> Hi, I'm having trouble setting up a network with my Windows computer. I am trying to share my Windows mounts and make it writable
[06:46] <t> hmmm, how do i find out?
[06:46] <larson9999> DrZoot: when you put the task menu at the bottom, have a sys tray on the right, have a quick launch on the left, and have a start button on the bottom left, you're going to be considered a windows clone
[06:46] <some0ne> How do you find out what?
[06:46] <feldegast> t what video card do you have?
[06:47] <larson9999> DrZoot: notice gnome has most of those at the top by default and isn't as often called a windows clone.
[06:47] <TheGateKeeper> bobbyyu: if you create a share on a windows machine you can use konqueror to navigate to it
[06:47] <joe_> dr Zoot, I want to linux not windows, but the learning curve is taking too long, I've beenreading tutorials and forums and I can follow directions, but still cant accomplish in 3 days what it took my 10 seconds in windows to do.
[06:47] <bobbyyu> I know that. But what about the other way around
[06:47] <some0ne> joe_, What are you trying to do?
[06:47] <bobbyyu> I want to create a share on the Linux machine so the Windows machine can see it
[06:48] <joe_> someone, i was trying to install flash 9 beta plugin in firefox
[06:48] <TheGateKeeper> bobbyyu: in that case you need samba
[06:48] <some0ne> bobbyyu, Use samba.
[06:48] <bobbyyu> So that the Windows mount on my LInux box can be shared to the Windows Machine
[06:48] <t> s3 savage
[06:48] <TheGateKeeper> !samba > bobbyyu
[06:48] <johey> larson9999: I remove vice and compile it myself.
[06:48] <t> its a t20 thinkpad
[06:49] <TheGateKeeper> bobbyyu: install samba then go to system settings --> share & set the share up
[06:49] <larson9999> johey: oh, that might do it as well.
[06:49] <bobbyyu> I did all the basic steps
[06:49] <DrZoot> joe_: heh, when i first started using linux i decided to drop myself in at the deep end and see if i could swim, my first ever distro was debian potato (2.x ??) with the craptastic text installer. Going from absolutely no linux experience it took 4 days and about 40 formats/installs before i got it right
[06:49] <bobbyyu> But the trouble is, Samba doesn't allow my Windows machine to see what's in the linux box
[06:49] <TheGateKeeper> bobbyyu: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Samba_Server
[06:50] <t> ok ill try sth, thanks so far felde seeya
[06:50] <joe_> dr zoot, is that supposed to encourge me, I'm pretty savvy on figuring stuff out, I just don't have the patience to go through all that.
[06:52] <DrZoot> joe_: im not sure I was trying to encourage, linux is powerful and flexible but its nothing like windows, imho theres a totally different mindset involved
[06:52] <TheGateKeeper> !flash9
[06:52] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:52] <TheGateKeeper> joe_: ^^^^^
[06:52] <lontra> anyone know how i can make kwallet remember my WEP for knetworkmanager
[06:53] <DrZoot> joe_: its well worth the effort though
[06:53] <TheGateKeeper> joe_: if you want a distro with loads of stuff pre-installed try kanotix
[06:55] <DrZoot> i may be masochistic but my favourite distro is gentoo, I just cbf arguing with it to make all the hardware on my laptop work so I went with kubuntu for something different
[06:55] <TheGateKeeper> feldegast: likes living dangerously lol
[06:55] <feldegast> definatly :D
[06:55] <joe_> kanotix, maybe. gotta go thanks
[06:55] <LjL> !automatix | feldegast
[06:55] <ubotu> feldegast: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[06:56] <feldegast> ubotu: noted, it worked for me but i only installed a small number of components
[06:56] <larson9999> anyone here running edgy and have wine .23 or .24 running ok?
[06:56] <some0ne> larson9999, I'm using wine to run Fireworks 8.
[06:57] <some0ne> larson9999, I don't know what version. But I'm running it. & I'm using the AMD64 arch.
[06:57] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: your the 2nd gentoo person I seen in here today, using (k)ubuntu what's going on lol
[06:57] <some0ne> Which is supposed to be extra hard.
[06:57] <some0ne> TheGateKeeper, I'm a Gentoo user as well.
[06:57] <larson9999> some0ne: which version?  the on in the ubuntu repository or did you get it from the winehq repos?
[06:58] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: I love gentoo but its just to difficult on a laptop
[06:58] <TheGateKeeper> omg that's 3
[06:58] <some0ne> larson9999, I did some hackish things which you won't have to do if you're using a 32 bit system. The .deb package was from winehq.
[06:58] <feldegast> but went with kubuntu
[06:59] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: what about kororaa or sabayon?
[06:59] <some0ne> DrZoot, I'm using it on a laptop right now. =)
[06:59] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: Setting up hardware in linux can be painful enough but when your travelling around trying to get your stuff to work with everyone elses its a nighmare (at least it was in my experience)
[06:59] <TheGateKeeper> some0ne: dapper or edgy?
[07:00] <some0ne> Edgy.
[07:00] <some0ne> I'm using Gentoo on the laptop, not Kubuntu.
[07:00] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: I havent looked at kororaa in a long time, last i looked it was only a livecd dist, havent heard of sabayon
[07:00] <some0ne> I'm using Kubuntu on the desktop.
[07:00] <ubuntu__> Hi
[07:00] <xsacha> well kororaa is a livecd, but it has install option
[07:01] <DrZoot> yeah, its been ages since ive even looked at it
[07:01] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: I am downloading via torrent to take a look
[07:01] <zorglu_> xsacha: it has xgl already configured isnt it ?
[07:01] <xsacha> yes
[07:01] <DrZoot> im fairly happy with kubuntu atm, my linux roots were in debian so im fairly familiar with the setup
[07:02] <xsacha> it was one of first distros to package xgl
[07:02] <zorglu_> maybe i should retry it then. i would like to see what is xgl
[07:02] <ubuntu__> so kubuntu or ubuntu_
[07:02] <zorglu_> i tried it once before but it didnt want to boot
[07:02] <mick-w> yoyo
[07:02] <DrZoot> im actually happy to use the xserver ati driver and have working suspend, xgl makes suspend difficult
[07:02] <xsacha> zorglu_: then it probably wont boot now either :)
[07:02] <DrZoot> actually i think its fglrx that is the problem
[07:03] <xsacha> i use aiglx/open source drivers
[07:03] <zorglu_> xsacha: well maybe they fixed the issue which caused the boot issue. in theory my laptop graphic card is supported by xgl
[07:03] <feldegast> zorglu_: Kororaa 0.2 has xgl on the cd, 0.3 has the prorietry ati/nvidia drivers removed so u need to install it before xgl will work on those cards
[07:03] <DrZoot> o rly? works well?
[07:03] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: my problem with edgy is I don't exactly trust what will happen if I try to upgrade, & firefox 2 has nobled all the extensions
[07:03] <zorglu_> feldegast: i got a intel chip set 915
[07:04] <feldegast> zorglu_: then u r set
[07:04] <frankkm> My problem with edgy is that adept doesn't work correct
[07:04] <zorglu_> my problem with edgy is the deceiving announcement :)
[07:04] <feldegast> if you don't have nvidia/ati for graphics
[07:04] <xsacha> yeah people complained about propietry drivers being packed with it
[07:05] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: Yeah, I just upgraded Kubuntu to edgy and although the upgrade seemed to work there was alot of broken stuff
[07:05] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: in the end i just nuked the system and did a clean install
[07:05] <some0ne> Proprietary drivers are bad.
[07:05] <feldegast> xsacha: which is strange cos lots of distro's did that
[07:05] <TheGateKeeper> frankkm: use synaptic or possible kpackage, adept is awfull anyway
[07:05] <some0ne> I'm involved in a business that will be selling Kubuntu / Ubuntu machines with Beryl installed as the default WM and we proudly have a no blob policy. =)
[07:06] <zorglu_> some0ne: blob = ?
[07:06] <larson9999> the only thing i can see that doesn't work for me in edgy is wine.  and the fonts look a bit off.  not so much bad just different than in dapper
[07:06] <DrZoot> Why did they change adept in the latest release? I thought it was really good and now it seems like its been redesigned for children
[07:06] <larson9999> i'm doing a fresh install anyway
[07:06] <xsacha> wine doesnt work from upgrade?
[07:06] <feldegast> some0ne: great, but xgl makes stuff not work (like adjusting display properties in kde)
[07:07] <DrZoot> imo xgl isnt worth it yet, to many problems for a little bit of eye candy
[07:07] <newmedian> Is anyone running daemontools (for djbnds) on Edgy? Edgy doesn't seem to be respecting my SV:123456:respawn:/command/svscanboot in inittab.
[07:07] <zorglu_> DrZoot: it is why it is good on livecd :)
[07:07] <mick-w> what new eye candy? new kde or something?
[07:07] <larson9999> xsacha: doesn't for me.  it worked after 'apt-get upgrade' but not after 'apt-get dist-upgrade'
[07:07] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: u'r kde user?
[07:07] <zorglu_> DrZoot: you play with it but dont dammage box which must run
[07:08] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: well I am not willing to do a fresh install every 6 months so I am now looking for a replacement that I can be happy with
[07:08] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: yep
[07:08] <some0ne> feldegast, AIGLX.
[07:09] <some0ne> some0ne, Only ati's drivers force don't use AIGLX.
[07:09] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: its not for everyone but I found that gentoo ages very well, upgrades tend not to break things but recompiling can be a pain
[07:10] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: can u show me screenshot?
[07:10] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: well it does seem that is where I am heading, other possibilities are kanotix (too much installed by default) or may be arch
[07:10] <some0ne> zorglu_, Blob, as in closed source binary.
[07:12] <axiom> kmail: is there any way to write inline links in outgoing messages?  Like <a href='http://google.com'>foo</a>
[07:12] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: yeah that was another thing I loved about gentoo, it comes preinstalled with just about nothing, by the time your finished setting it up you know every single program on the system, no surprises
[07:12] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: http://shots.osdir.com/
[07:13] <larson9999> i was going to try gentoo but i figured i'd have less to compile if i went with lfs
[07:13] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: ty
[07:13] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: yw :-)
[07:13] <St_MPA3b> Are here any firefox + beryl users?
[07:13] <some0ne> St_MPA3b, Anyone who uses Beryl is most likely using Firefox.
[07:13] <St_MPA3b> some0ne: i have but with em :(
[07:13] <DrZoot> why is kdevelop not in edgy ><
[07:14] <some0ne> St_MPA3b, What?
[07:14] <xsacha> it is drzoot
[07:14] <xsacha> in repository..
[07:14] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: much as I like kubuntu, 2 things are driving me away, unreliable upgrade path, & it's slow compared to other distros
[07:14] <DrZoot> yeah, its prolly my repos
[07:14] <feldegast> xsacha: it was removed during my upgrade
[07:15] <xsacha> install it again?
[07:15] <some0ne> TheGateKeeper, That's because it has to do everything.
[07:15] <DrZoot> TheGateKeeper: yeah it is alot slower .... damnit the more I talk to you the more I convince myself I should go back to gentoo again ><
[07:15] <xsacha> go to CRUX :)
[07:15] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: I use firefox 1.5, not 2 because none of the extension work :-(
[07:16] <david_> TheGateKeeper: it's slow because of the 386 kernel
[07:16] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: i have the solution
[07:16] <TheGateKeeper> DrZoot: try arch
[07:16] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: install MrTech Locan Install and make all ext compataible
[07:16] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: can u give me a list of extensions?
[07:17] <david_> does anyone know where the 686 binary kernel has gone from (k)ubuntu?
[07:17] <TheGateKeeper> david_: well I wish they would they would provide an i686 varient
[07:17] <david_> yeah, they used to
[07:17] <Tm_T> It's all "generic" now.
[07:17] <david_> I mean you can always apt-get kernel-source. with make-kpkg
[07:17] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: well most important is google notes & bookmark sync
[07:18] <david_> why have they removed the 686 build?
[07:18] <ubuntu_> hey, i would like much to know how to update to edgy (am on dapper) is it by changing every dapper to edgy in the sources.list file
[07:18] <ubuntu_> ?
[07:18] <david_> ubuntu_ yep.
[07:18] <feldegast> they removed the amd64 extra kernels too
[07:18] <david_> then run apt-get update
[07:18] <ubuntu_> ok thnx
[07:18] <david_> and apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:18] <ubuntu_> bye
[07:18] <david_> bye then
[07:18] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: bookmarc sync -> foxmarks (it's really better).
[07:20] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: and whats goodle notes?
[07:21] <newmedian> When I upgraded to Edgy, by default it is giving me only 1 of my cores. If you do a dmesg|more early on I get WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached.  Processor ignored.
[07:21] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: ok thanx, google notes <--- I miss spelt it
[07:21] <david_> newmedian: for some reason it's running a very old kernel
[07:22] <david_> we're not sure why they've changed this.
[07:22] <david_> well
[07:22] <pielgrzym> !pastebin
[07:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:22] <david_> it's a new kernel
[07:22] <david_> but, compiled for old machines
[07:22] <bobbyyu> Where can I find diskmounter? I need to write access my Windows mounts.
[07:22] <axiom> Kmail links:  Guess not.  Go vote for this bug then.  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136468
[07:23] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: =/
[07:23] <newmedian> david, I was hearing anecdotally that switching to the "generic" enabled more cores? but that people were experiencing issues with the "generic" one.
[07:23] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: what google notes for?
[07:23] <larson9999> that pastebin doesn't seem to allow screenshots.
[07:23] <david_> newmedian: the only kernel build left is generic
[07:23] <bobbyyu> !diskmounter
[07:23] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:23] <david_> all others just point to that
[07:24] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: I use it as a way of making notes particularly about linux as I pick up little tips, also means I have access to those notes on multiple machines
[07:25] <newmedian> david, would you know anything about the new startup procedure for Edgy? It seems to be ignoring my SV:123456:respawn:/command/svscanboot line in /etc/inittab
[07:26] <TheGateKeeper> david_: should I install linux-image-2.6.15-27-686 then ?
[07:27] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: can u give me homepage? Can't google it o_O
[07:28] <david_> TheGateKeeper: what cpu do you ahve?
[07:28] <TheGateKeeper> larson9999: I see the new pastebin doesn't but the old one used to, yet another backwards step :-(
[07:29] <TheGateKeeper> david_: on this Athlon XP2200+
[07:29] <david_> you'd want k7 then
[07:29] <david_> however, they seem to have not made 2.6.17 builds of all these yet
[07:30] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: possible calling it Google Notebook, but amounts to the same thing: https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=notebook&passive=true&nui=1&continue=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fnotebook%2Fdownload%3Fcontinue%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252Fnotebook
[07:31] <TheGateKeeper> david_: I got one of them too (k7)
[07:32] <TheGateKeeper> david_: linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7
[07:32] <ketsugi> How do I theme kdm in Edgy?
[07:32] <ketsugi> I installed the kdmtheme package
[07:33] <ketsugi> but I don't see any KDM theme item in my System Settings
[07:33] <ketsugi> oh nvm
[07:33] <ketsugi> I found it in kcontrol
[07:33] <Marc_> if i uninstall kubuntu will i lose all my stuff on the drive?
[07:33] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: it works for me
[07:33] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: i mean extension
[07:34] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: on Firefox 2 ?
[07:34] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: no, on 4.2 :).
[07:34] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: ofc on 2.0
[07:35] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: just checking because someone told me otherwise the other day
[07:35] <ketsugi> I can't seem to use Administrator Mode in anything
[07:35] <TheGateKeeper> david_: you reckon I should install that?
[07:35] <ketsugi> I get this error on the CLI: kdesu (kdelibs): WARNING: No X authentication info set for display :1.0
[07:35] <VanessaE> hiho
[07:36] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: y... works...
[07:36] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: woow
[07:36] <ketsugi> Only happens when using Beryl
[07:38] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: ok thanx for the info
[07:38] <SHRIKEE> booM!
[07:38] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: you new to kubuntu?
[07:38] <CVirus> !upgrade
[07:38] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:38] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: ^_^. i'm gnomer
[07:39] <Ahmuck> azerus does not work in edgy ?
[07:39] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: ahhh
[07:39] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: 6th day in linux. Ubuntu is my 1st distib, i havent worked in any other
[07:39] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: u use beryl?
[07:39] <SHRIKEE> heh Blacken, i just upgraded with no troubles
[07:40] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: collection of usefull bits & pieces I have found ---> http://za1012001.googlepages.com/home
[07:40] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: nope I don't use beryl
[07:40] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: ty.
[07:40] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: yw :-)
[07:41] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: u have tryed beryl?
[07:41] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: I have looked at xgl seen videos & never bothered with it as it doesn't seem to serve any usefull purpose at least not for me
[07:42] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: nope ^^^
[07:42] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: cube is really useful
[07:42] <TheGateKeeper> food, back is a bit...
[07:42] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: imagine the cube with 4 viewports on it
[07:42] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: and u can turn it
[07:43] <xdemon> hi
[07:43] <xdemon> i need help
[07:43] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: it's fast ant nice
[07:43] <St_MPA3b> xdemon: ok
[07:43] <xdemon> !dosfschk
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dosfschk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <St_MPA3b> xD
[07:43] <SHRIKEE> where did powercontrol go, in edgy?
[07:43] <xdemon> how i can skip noisy windows disk checking, dosfschk?
[07:43] <TheGateKeeper> St_MPA3b: I know seen the videos, back in a bit off for food...
[07:45] <St_MPA3b> TheGateKeeper: ok)
[07:46] <SHRIKEE> wtf
[07:46] <SHRIKEE> why is half of my acpi disabled in edgy :(
[07:47] <jp__> Hi
[07:48] <Blacken> SHRIKEE: Just run the helper application in the power config; it'll fix you up.
[07:48] <SHRIKEE> i did, it wont
[07:49] <SHRIKEE> shrikee@shrikee-laptop:~$ acpi -V
[07:49] <SHRIKEE>      Battery 1: charging, 99%, charging at zero rate - will never fully charge.
[07:49] <SHRIKEE> No support for device type: thermal
[07:49] <SHRIKEE>   AC Adapter 1: on-line
[07:49] <SHRIKEE> what does that mean :S
[07:49] <SHRIKEE> will never fully charge...
[07:49] <SHRIKEE> wtf
[07:50] <reon> Are the PLF repos down ?
[07:50] <shadowhywind> hi all, i was in here the other day about nvidia not allowing me to start x after reboot. It comes up with no screens found, any ideas?
[07:51] <rand_> lol pk je me retrouve ici moi
[07:51] <wildchild> how do I locate share files with samba:
[07:51] <wildchild> samba:/ ??
[07:51] <reon> shadowhywind, try sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg or something liket that
[07:51] <SHRIKEE> smb:/
[07:51] <rand_> je comprend pas j'ai dmarr linux et il m'a connect d'office  ce chan
[07:52] <shadowhywind> that will reconfigure back to kubuntu drivers, i need to use nvidia drivers
[07:52] <SHRIKEE> blacken, i got the panels now, i needed to reload kcontrol
[07:52] <reon> shadowhywind, have you installed the nvidia drivers ?
[07:52] <shadowhywind> yes, thats the problem, there is a file that i have to delete and i don't remember which one
[07:52] <shadowhywind> there is some confusion with kubuntu nvidia drivers and nvidia drivers
[07:53] <reon> shadowhywind, are you using nv or nvidia drivers ?
[07:53] <reon> shadowhywind, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255929
[07:53] <shadowhywind> i installed from the nvidia website, so i believe i am using the nvidia drivers
[07:54] <bobbyyu> I used Diskmounter, and I can't mount the Windows mounts to be writable
[07:54] <reon> shadowhywind, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255929
[07:54] <bobbyyu> Is there something I did wrong?
[07:54] <wildchild> how can I install xgl or x (3d desktop) on kubuntu 6.10 ?
[07:55] <felipe__> I can't find the nvidia-glx package in the repos, only the legacy drivers are in there.
[07:56] <bobbyyu> Can someone help?
[07:56] <reon> felipe, look at the 2 links I just listed
[07:56] <felipe__> reon: ok
[07:57] <reon> bobbyyu, why not just follow the procedure in the wiki
[07:58] <bobbyyu> I did
[07:58] <bobbyyu> Which wiki are you referring to?
[07:59] <wildchild> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:59] <wildchild> can someone help?
[08:00] <wildchild> this happened while I was installing java
[08:00] <Ahmuck_> !lock
[08:00] <fdoving> !adept crash fix | wildchild
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <ubotu> wildchild: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[08:00] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: you trying to apt-get while adept is open or something like that?
[08:00] <bobbyyu> !diskmounter
[08:00] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:00] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: ohh
[08:00] <bobbyyu> !fuse
[08:00] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:01] <wildchild> fdoving: tnx
[08:01] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: use the konsol & apt-get to install java
[08:03] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: should I install linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7 if I have an Athlon XP2200+ & will it add an option to menu.lst?
[08:03] <bobbyyu> reon: which wiki are you refferring to?
[08:04] <wildchild> is there another way to fix sun-java5-jre package beside sudo apt-get -f sun-java5-jre ?
[08:04] <_ShoGo_> hi, has been kubuntu edgy released?
[08:04] <TheGateKeeper> _ShoGo_: yep
[08:06] <_ShoGo_> how can i update?
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Live CD issue
[08:06] <DaSkreech> _ShoGo_: sudo apt-get update
[08:06] <_ShoGo_> DaSkreech, are u sure?
[08:06] <DaSkreech> _ShoGo_: I don't know
[08:06] <DaSkreech>  what' the problem?
[08:06] <_ShoGo_> lol
[08:07] <_ShoGo_> i answered about how to upgrade to edgy
[08:07] <_ShoGo_> m8
[08:07] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: new kernels will be added to menu.lst yes.
[08:07] <DaSkreech> _ShoGo_: Answered or asked?
[08:07] <_ShoGo_> yeah, asked
[08:07] <DaSkreech> How do I see the boot messages in Edgy?
[08:07] <_ShoGo_> sorry bout my english. I'm not a native english
[08:07] <DaSkreech> !upgrade > _ShoGo_
[08:07] <_ShoGo_> !upgrade
[08:07] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:07] <_ShoGo_> thanks
[08:07] <DaSkreech> _ShoGo_: No problem just want to make sure I'm giving you want you want
[08:07] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: do you have the -generic kernel? did you try linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 ?
[08:07] <DaSkreech> Sure
[08:08] <mr_> ghjghj
[08:08] <DaSkreech> fdoving: esc on the usplash screen should give mteh bootm essages right?
[08:08] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: downgrading to 2.6.15 isn't smart. is this edgy or dapper? (i've assumed edgy)
[08:08] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: I have what ever came with basic install
[08:08] <fdoving> DaSkreech: don't know with edgy. I don't boot very often, sorry.
[08:08] <DaSkreech> fdoving: me either :()
[08:08] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: ohhhh no I am still using dapper
[08:09] <DaSkreech> I'm trying to use a Live CD to test someone's machine
[08:09] <DaSkreech>  it was booting fine
[08:09] <DaSkreech> then I moved the machine ot this house and now it won't boot
[08:09] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: ah.. then try the -k7 one.
[08:09] <fdoving> hmm..
[08:09] <DaSkreech>  I don't know where the issue is cause the stupid usplash doesn't have meeasges
[08:09] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: hmm that looks a bad idea after all
[08:10] <fdoving> it should be one of the F-keys.. iirc..
[08:11] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: i think you want -k7, why would it be a bad idea?
[08:11] <Kiongku> hey guys know wher ethe equivalent of inittab is in kubuntu?
[08:11] <fdoving> Kiongku: /etc/event.d/ - what do you want to do?
[08:12] <Kiongku> fdoving: adding entrance login manager
[08:12] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: I just looked at the moment I have 2.6.15-27-386 so if I move to the -k7 things should get better?
[08:12] <fdoving> Kiongku: hum? how does that work?
[08:12] <fdoving> TheGateKeeper: i think so.
[08:13] <Kiongku> fdoving: replaces kdm
[08:13] <TheGateKeeper> fdoving: right here goes, thanx :-)
[08:13] <fdoving> Kiongku: why do you need to edit inittab (or the replacement) ?
[08:13] <Kiongku> fdoving: just looking. still not sure of it
[08:14] <rolando> hi
[08:14] <rolando> how can i install a dep package using konsole?
[08:14] <jende_> Howdy
[08:14] <fdoving> roland: 'sudo dpkg -i package.deb'
[08:14] <rolando> ok thanx
[08:14] <g00lan> tjena
[08:16] <Commander-Crowe> where is synaptics in Kubuntu?
[08:16] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: nowhere
[08:16] <Commander-Crowe> there isn't one?
[08:17] <MasterEvilAce> use Adept
[08:17] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: nope, but therefor we have ADEPT
[08:19] <nub> I just installed Kubuntu in text-mode, it restarted, I logged in, but now it's sitting on a command line and I don't know what to do.
[08:19] <reon> shadowhywind, try sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg or something liket that
[08:19] <rolando> nub log int and write startx
[08:19] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: or you just want to use apt on the console
[08:20] <Commander-Crowe> yeah but I can't find what I want in apt
[08:20] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: what do you want to do?
[08:21] <Commander-Crowe> install ICeWM or JWM
[08:21] <Commander-Crowe> iceWM*
[08:21] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: have you got the repos in your sources?
[08:22] <Commander-Crowe> I havn't added anything new
[08:22] <nub> Can someone help me? The computer just booted up in a black and white text-mode. I entered my login and pass, but it just gives me the command line. How do I get it to the GUI?
[08:22] <TheGateKeeper> nub: try Ctrl + Alt + F7
[08:22] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: pastebin your sources; you knoe how to do it?
[08:23] <Commander-Crowe> jende_ I think so
[08:23] <jende_> !paste
[08:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:23] <TheGateKeeper> universe
[08:23] <Commander-Crowe> but i can't remember where the source list is
[08:23] <TheGateKeeper>  /etc/sources.list
[08:23] <nerth> hi everybody again
[08:23] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:23] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[08:24] <DaSkreech> nub: Where are you logged in from?
[08:25] <nub> What do you mean?
[08:25] <ruisu> yi, hehe, i got problems with my ati P
[08:25] <ruisu> :P
[08:25] <DaSkreech> nub: are you logged in on the command line?
[08:25] <nub> yea
[08:25] <nub> I haven't even seen a GUI yet.
[08:26] <DaSkreech> nub: did you type startx ?
[08:26] <ruisu> something is happening with the grafics, they get freezed, i mean, the wont update, and some of them wonth show
[08:26] <nub> i just typed that and it says fatal server error: no screens found
[08:27] <DaSkreech> nub: Ah
[08:27] <DaSkreech> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:27] <jende_> ruisu: what?
[08:27] <nub> kk
[08:27] <ruisu> i think its the drivers, how could i uninstallit_
[08:28] <ruisu> what, i cant see XD, ill post 2more lines
[08:28] <ruisu> =
[08:28] <ruisu> or 4 P
[08:28] <ruisu> ok,
[08:29] <ruisu> so, my grafics driver seems bugy, its an ati , the ati drivers
[08:29] <ruisu> fglrx
[08:29] <ruisu>
[08:29] <ruisu>
[08:29] <ruisu>
[08:30] <RebornDV> hello
[08:30] <parsek> does anyone know why my kubuntu loses the show (files) creation time setting when I close the folder, when I open it again its gone and its also grey in the list so I cant choose it again?
[08:30] <RebornDV> just did a fresh install of edgy and adept won't launch.. su returned with an error... any ideas?
[08:30] <Ahmuck> can someone reproduce this for me?  if you right click on firefox http bar to copy link you get two dialogs ?
[08:31] <Ahmuck> two copy dialogs
[08:31] <felipe__> I just moved from ubuntu dapper to kubuntu edgy and I'm now to kde, in adept manager I don't see the linux-686-smp ?
[08:31] <nub> DaSkreech: It's asking me for my video card's bus identifier after detecting my video card
[08:31] <felipe__> *new
[08:31] <ruisu> Ahmuckno, that never happened to me
[08:31] <DaSkreech> nub: and it's blank?
[08:31] <nub> no
[08:31] <Ahmuck> in edgy ?
[08:31] <nub> heh
[08:31] <nub> sorry
[08:31] <nub> i'll just press enter
[08:31] <DaSkreech> felipe__: try a reload and then try again
[08:32] <felipe__> is it kernel-image-2.3.27-2-686.smp?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> Does anyone have an edgy Desktop CD and  free machine to test with?
[08:32] <Commander-Crowe2> using adapt how do I install build essentionals
[08:32] <DaSkreech> felipe__: Looks right
[08:32] <jende_> DaSkreech: to test what?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> Commander-Crowe2: search for build-essentials
[08:32] <DaSkreech> Commander-Crowe2: search for build-essential
[08:33] <Commander-Crowe2> ok
[08:33] <DaSkreech> jende_: I'm doing a CD check and I get the same progress bar like I'm botting up
[08:33] <DaSkreech> But it's not moving :(
[08:33] <DaSkreech> So I have no idea if it's bad or not doing anything or that's normal
[08:33] <DaSkreech> jende_: ok never mind it just jumped to a blinking cusor
[08:33] <jende_> DaSkreech: you get a moving bar while nstalling and there is no progress?
[08:33] <DaSkreech>  I take it that's bad
[08:34] <DaSkreech> jende_: No no bar at all
[08:34] <jende_> brb
[08:34] <DaSkreech> well not true I get a bar but it doesn't do anything
[08:34] <DaSkreech> GUess I'll just use windows
[08:36] <nub> DaSkreech: I got to the desired default color depth, I chose the one it selected for me. It popped up with a warning "overwriting possibly customised configuration file; bacup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.2006102903320. it's waiting for me to input something again
[08:36] <wildchild> where can I turn it off this thing in kopete messenger: allways when some contact change it's status this appears in window :S
[08:36] <wildchild> it's annoying
[08:36] <DaSkreech> nub: By input something you mean you are at the prompt?
[08:36] <afm\colossus> settings -> configure notifications maybe?
[08:36] <Ace2016> hi all
[08:37] <nub> Yes
[08:37] <DaSkreech> wildchild: in the settings :)
[08:37] <Ace2016> my open office keeps crashing
[08:37] <amit> how to create local repository ??
[08:37] <nub> but the color depth selection is above this prompt
[08:37] <DaSkreech> nub: try startx again
[08:37] <Ace2016>  all i did was select an image
[08:37] <Ace2016>  is this a known bug?
[08:37] <wildchild> DaSkreech: a little bit more specific please :P
[08:38] <nub> it gave me the no screens found error again. fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining
[08:38] <slow-motion> re
[08:38] <fdoving> DaSkreech: tried F6 ? twice maybe?
[08:38] <Ace2016> well i guess i'm forced to use windows' open office for a while
[08:38] <Ace2016> bye all
[08:38] <Commander-Crowe2> http://pastebin.com/815454
[08:38] <Commander-Crowe2> there  you go
[08:38] <Commander-Crowe2> my source.list
[08:38] <nub> it also did this same thing when I tried to install on the graphical interface mode
[08:38] <DaSkreech> fdoving: I'm guessing the CD on the ride over here picked up a gold watch and retired
[08:39] <DaSkreech> nub: Would you happen to have two video cards
[08:39] <nub> I'm pretty sure I only have one. ATI Radeon X800 Pro
[08:39] <fdoving> DaSkreech: maybe you'll have to remove some options before booting the cd. quiet and splash, i guess.
[08:40] <parsek> does anyone know why my kubuntu loses the show (files) creation time setting when I close the folder, when I open it again its gone and its also grey in the list so I cant choose it again?
[08:40] <DaSkreech> fdoving: I did that and it stops reading the CD on the same command
[08:40] <fdoving> ah.
[08:40] <DaSkreech> I'm guessing the CD gave up the Ghost
[08:40] <DaSkreech> My FC6 DVD died as well
[08:40] <DaSkreech> L:-( bad weekend
[08:42] <jende_> !Icewm
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Icewm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <jende_> !JWM
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about JWM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <sorush20> I managed to fix my computer no thanks to you ...
[08:43] <nub> DaSkreech: Any other suggestions?
[08:43] <socketbind> erm howdy :D im in the middle of a kubuntu installation but i cancelled the installation of language packs and now it loops forever
[08:44] <socketbind> geez this is the fourth failed attempt :D
[08:45] <Commander-Crowe2> ok
[08:45] <DaSkreech> socketbind: Hang in there :)
[08:45] <Commander-Crowe2> how do I add build essentals through apt-get using the CD?
[08:45] <DaSkreech> Commander-Crowe2: Got your package
[08:45] <DaSkreech> !x
[08:45] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:45] <DaSkreech> nub: try that for a bit I'm going to the other side of the room
[08:46] <gigabytes> hello everybody
[08:46] <socketbind> fifth attempt there ya go :D brb :] ]
[08:46] <georgeb> Hi, I have a problem with kopete, I can't receive files on yahoo; do you know how to solve it ? thanks.
[08:46] <gigabytes> I'm trying to install edgy on an apple powerbook 15"
[08:46] <gigabytes> model 5,8 (the last model before the intel ones)
[08:46] <gigabytes> but
[08:47] <gigabytes> I can't boot up the live cd
[08:47] <gigabytes> because the X server doesn't start and I get only a text-mode shell
[08:47] <feldegast> gigabytes: is it a ppc cd?
[08:47] <Commander-Crowe2> alright I got it
[08:47] <gigabytes> feldegast: yes... I get the shell...
[08:47] <gigabytes> the problem is the X server
[08:48] <gigabytes> the livecd boots up and launch the X server, but it doesn't start and I get a shell
[08:48] <gigabytes> what's the matter?
[08:48] <rOOb> can anyone help me add a entry to my /etc/fstab?........i cant figure it out
[08:49] <rOOb> its looks very diff then it did on dapper
[08:49] <georgeb> rOOb: what is the problem ?
[08:49] <afm\colossus> he's probably confused by the filesystem's UUIDs
[08:49] <darkpietcin> hey
[08:50] <rOOb> georgeb, i want to add my pendrive and ipod to my fstab...so i can a: simply type mount /media/ipod and b: i will have read write axx to it
[08:50] <rOOb> afm\colossus, yea thats part of iyt
[08:50] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: here you'll get our IceWM http://sourceforge.net/projects/icewm/
[08:51] <georgeb> rOOb: did you try it as on dapper ?
[08:51] <rOOb> georgeb, on dapper i had a few entries i made
[08:52] <rOOb> afm\colossus, how can i get the uuids>
[08:52] <rOOb> ?
[08:52] <georgeb> rOOb: you can try to add them as you did on dapper, it might work
[08:52] <stephan_> hi, i have a problem with $Display. I try to start firefox from root with "firefox --display=:0 -remote openurl\(http://www.stern.de\)" but i get a "Error: Failed to connect to X server". I allready set xhost + from the user with the display
[08:52] <rOOb> georgeb, i dont mess around with my filesystem
[08:53] <shadowhywind> hay all, i am getting a Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! message on startx any ideas?
[08:53] <rOOb> georgeb, if it "may" work or "could" work....im not gonna risk it untill i get someone who knows for a fact itll work
[08:53] <rOOb> not worth loosing data
[08:54] <reon> where would i enable my Plantronics headset ?
[08:54] <zblach> hey all. quick issue with laptops. soon as KDE starts running, it detects my laptop lid switch as closed. it is most assuredly not. how to correct?
[08:54] <georgeb> rOOb: ok. give me what you added for the ipod and I'll try it on my own :)
[08:54] <rOOb> georgeb, i havent added anything to this one
[08:54] <stephan_> with --display=0.0 and --display=0 i get a Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: 0(.0)
[08:54] <DaSkreech> Looking for a CD to burn it to
[08:54] <georgeb> rOOb: what you put in fstab for dapper
[08:55] <rOOb> georgeb, i want to.....on apper it wsa like /dev/sdb2 /media/ipod then some arguments here
[08:55] <DaSkreech> WHoops
[08:55] <rOOb> georgeb, i no longer have what i did on dapper
[08:55] <RawSewageLT> Kubuntu Edgy is great
[08:55] <rOOb> as this is a new intsall
[08:55] <RawSewageLT> fresh install
[08:56] <jende_> Commander-Crowe: got it?
[08:56] <rOOb> i just find it weird that no one knows to much about this new fstab format
[08:56] <SHRIKEE> Pentium M is that centrino?
[08:56] <socketbind> re :D
[08:57] <afm\colossus> SHRIKEE: Centrino is Pentium M
[08:57] <SHRIKEE> ok, thanks
[08:57] <afm\colossus> but not vice versa
[08:57] <shadowhywind> anyone have any suggestions for Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module!, there is some nvidia file that i have to delete but i don't remember..
[08:57] <afm\colossus> ;)
[08:57] <SHRIKEE> ...
[08:57] <felipe__> I don't see in Adept the Linux 2.6.17 686 smp??? where is it?
[08:57] <afm\colossus> there are no such kernels any more
[08:58] <rOOb> does anyone know how to add entries to the fstab....using the new formate?
[08:58] <fdoving> rOOb: what do you want to know about this new fstab stuff?
[08:58] <SHRIKEE> but there is a 686 kernel?
[08:58] <felipe__> Yeah
[08:58] <rOOb> fdoving, how to add entries for my ipod and pendrive
[08:58] <rOOb> fdoving, it doesnt look like it did on dapper
[08:59] <georgeb> rOOb: is not new or weird, man mount: "It is possible to indicate a block special device using its volume label or UUID"
[08:59] <felipe__> SHRIKEE: actually I thinks the linux-image-686 its just a container, I don't see the linux 686
[09:00] <fdoving> rOOb: use 'sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda1' if /dev/sda1 is your ipod. to get the UUID. then just use 'UUID=uuidhere /mountpoint defaults,andotheroptions 0 0' in fstab.
[09:00] <SHRIKEE> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85917 im trying that
[09:00] <SHRIKEE> on a centrino laptop
[09:00] <SHRIKEE> is it still relevant?
[09:00] <rOOb> georgeb fdoving ahh k thanks...i tink im starting to understand it now
[09:01] <blackflag> where can I get the kernel-header for edgy kernel-header-2.6.17-10-386?
[09:01] <felipe__> ??? anywhay it say its been obsoleted by de generic linux image....whats going on with this generic kerenel? is it smp or is it plain 386?
[09:02] <fdoving> blackflag: package name is: linux-headers-2.6.17-10
[09:02] <reon> How do I scan for attached USB devices ?
[09:02] <jende_> fdoving: Howdy... ;-)
[09:02] <fdoving> hi jende_.
[09:02] <jende_> fdoving: you#re damn busy
[09:03] <bored> reon: you can use usbview (if you are using X)
[09:03] <bored> if you want to see if it's picked up correctly
[09:03] <reon> bored, what about cli ?
[09:03] <blackflag> fdoving: thanks!! I searched with kernel-header..
[09:03] <georgeb> reon: lsusb
[09:03] <DaSkreech> rOOb: man fstab
[09:04] <bored> don't really know. all my comps that use usb stuff are running xorg
[09:04] <haclappy> hello everybody! I hope some of you can help me with the following problem: I downloaded the "kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso" file, burned it and tried to install. The LiveCD boots fine, but the installation always hangs at 78%. At this point, one can hear the cdrom drive to speed up and slow down again and again, until it stops. The system is not dead at this point, but as soon as you click somewhere, it locks up completely
[09:04] <socketbind> you may have a defective cd :)
[09:04] <haclappy> PS: The checksum of the downloaded file is correct, and the cd integrity is verified. I burnt it 2 times, always same result. Had no problems with prior kubuntu versions.
[09:04] <socketbind> i had the same problem
[09:05] <reon> georgeb, thx
[09:05] <socketbind> first it was a faulty drive then a defective cd a total nightmare
[09:05] <bored> ive heard there are problems upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10. what should i look out for ?
[09:05] <haclappy> socketbind, that's bad. But I checked everything
[09:06] <haclappy> but in fact, the option of the kubuntu live cd to check the file integrity gives an error! it says that one checksum failed
[09:06] <bored> anything really bad or just small stuff ?
[09:06] <Commander-Crowe> jende_ yeah I got it but I need to install build-essentials
[09:06] <haclappy> but on the pc on which I burnt and downloaded the cd, everything passes
[09:06] <VanessaE> bored: for some people, major problems.  for others, my husband included, just a couple of minor bugs
[09:07] <socketbind> maybe a defective drive mine was working for 5 years in a row, now it
[09:07] <VanessaE> personally, I'm sticking to Dapper :)
[09:07] <socketbind> its reduced to a pile of junk
[09:07] <bored> you did an md5 check on the image yu downloaded ?
[09:07] <bored> you even
[09:07] <bored> VanessaE: kk. dont have anything else to do atm, so i figured i would do an update :)
[09:07] <{slacky}> hello
[09:07] <{slacky}> I installed Kubuntu 6.10, but when I try shutdown (power off) the pc by kdm the pc stay powered on... why? I tryed to see and I found kubuntu uses "/sbin/poweroff" to poweroff... I modified it by kcontrol but it's always the same I have to say "sudo halt" from konsole
[09:07] <georgeb> rOOb: my ipod gets automounted; I can't find who mounts it; anyway, this is how it looks: /dev/sdb2 on /media/ipod type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[09:07] <VanessaE> bored: better you should do a clean install