[17:49] <kyle__> Hfuy: Two, or three? of us have already told you, when you do a full install you'll get all the latest drivers etc, and then it will probably work.  No garuntee. but probably.
[17:50] <Hfuy> Oh god. CUPS.
[17:50] <Hfuy> There are whole rants online about this.
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> Hfuy  makes you feel less lonely with yours ;)
[17:50] <ThinkT510> Hfuy: there is also gutenprint
[17:51] <Hfuy> the first question is "enter device URI."
[17:51] <Hfuy> URI? To a printer? I don't know! "PRINTER"?
[17:52] <kyle__> Hfuy: there are also whole rants against evolution, the ACLU, and the catholic workers union.
[17:52] <usr13> Hfuy: firefox localhost:631
[17:52] <roasted> kyle__: yep, nothing happening over here.
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> there are rants against every system and every person
[17:53] <kyle__> roasted: Hum.  :/
[17:53] <kyle__> MonkeyDust: Don't forget fictional people.  Rants against them to.
[17:53] <Hfuy> A username and password are being requested by http://localhost:631. The site says: "CUPS"
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> twitter and facebook are online toilet doors
[17:54] <usr13> Hfuy: Sure
[17:54] <dougl> MonkeyDust, without the germs and smell.
[17:54] <usr13> Hfuy: But no use to configure the printer now... wait till you get your install done.
[17:55] <genii-around> sw: After scanning the manpage for whois, does not look like it takes a file containing a list as an argument. Also does not take multiple domain-names in the single command. If you wanted some one-line result from say: whois myname.com     with a yes-or-no type result, shois myname.com | grep status   might work. Probably results in either available, just return to command prompt.
[17:55] <Hfuy> I'm not going to install at all unless I can get bluetooth and print working.
[17:55] <usr13> Hfuy: Any configurations you do now are pointless.
[17:55] <genii-around> sw: Aplogies on lag, work required  me for an extended period
[17:55] <usr13> Hfuy: Well, then don't install anything.  No one is forcing you to do anything.
[17:55] <Hfuy> If they were pointless, I wouldn't do them.
[17:56] <kyle__> Hfuy: Then use the printer control panel under system settings, and stop being a troll.
[17:56] <usr13> Hfuy: What?
[17:56] <Hfuy> I did
[17:56] <SolarisB1y> heh
[17:56] <Hfuy> It asked me for a URI to the printer.
[17:56] <usr13> Hfuy: You are not making any sense
[17:56] <Hfuy> Which is nonsensical.
[17:56] <usr13> Hfuy: You are nonsensical
[17:57] <Hfuy> I appreciate that "discovering things that linux doesn't do very well" is effectively trolling in a linux channel, but there's not much I can do about that.
[17:57] <kyle__> Hfuy: If it's a network printer, then yes, you may need to type in a URI, if it's locally attached, choose it.
[17:57] <graft> service discovery usually finds printers on the network for me
[17:57] <Hfuy> Choose it how?
[17:57] <kyle__> Hfuy: You haven't discovered anything, only your own inability to think or take directions when asking for help.  I've been printing from cups for a long time, never had any problems.
[17:57] <SolarisB1y> me too
[17:58] <tqrst> any idea what might cause 'htop' to show up with only one column instead of taking up the full width of my terminal? 'top' works fine. htop used to work properly until about a week ago, and I'm not quite sure what changed in between.
[17:58] <kyle__> Hfuy: Is it a USB printer?  A network printer?
[17:58] <Phoenixz> On 12.04, I want NOT to have to enter a PW for sudo, tried myuser ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL, myuser ALL =  NOPASSWD: ALL, nothing works.. what is wrong here?
[17:58] <usr13> Hfuy: If you do a linux install first, you can discover things that don't work very well, but right now, you are just quibling over stuff that is mostly not relevant.
[17:58] <Hfuy> USB. Locally attached.
[17:58] <Hfuy> usr13: Great linux attitude! Doesn't work? Obviously not relevant then!
[17:58] <graft> Hfuy: do you have drivers? a PPD file?
[17:58] <Hfuy> Believe me, printing is relevant.
[17:58] <usr13> Hfuy: That is not what I said.
[17:59] <kyle__> Hfuy: And in "Devices" does it show LPT Enter URI and Network Printer?
[17:59] <Phoenixz> It keeps asking for password on sudo
[17:59] <kyle__> Hfuy: Does it show anything else?
[17:59] <SolarisB1y> Phoenixz: im having the same issue
[17:59] <usr13> Hfuy: The USB drive that you are suing is *not* a full install.  It is *not* fully functional.  DO you undertand?
[17:59] <ThinkT510> Phoenixz: believe me, you don't want to do that
[17:59] <Hfuy> In the "devices" panel of the "new printer" dialog, I get "enter URI" and "network printer."
[17:59] <SolarisB1y> why not? ThinkT510 ??
[18:00] <kyle__> Hfuy: Sounds like the live cd doesn't have the usb-printer drivers then.
[18:00] <QubitSmuggler> phoenixz, it is always going to ask for a password on sudo
[18:00] <graft> Phoenixz: yeah, that's a bad idea... but check to see if there are other rules after that
[18:00] <ThinkT510> SolarisB1y: why not just let anyone have access then?
[18:00] <SolarisB1y> who else is in my house?
[18:00] <Hfuy> It's not a liveCD. It's a USB key derived from exactly the same ISO that I'd use to create an installer.
[18:00] <jonataaraujo> Ola, só vejo americano, algum brasileiro aquiii ????
[18:00] <kyle__> Hfuy: Either that, or: 1) printer is off 2) priter isn't plugged into the computer 3) usb port is bad
[18:00] <usr13> Hfuy: Again:  The LiveUSB you have booted to is *not* a full install and so there are some limitations.
[18:00] <SolarisB1y> i think it goes for where you are... of course if this is a shared environment then great - but having to type a sudo password in my house over and over and im the only person with a key is pointless..
[18:01] <kyle__> Hfuy: Thats the live cd off of USB.  Same groceries, different bag.
[18:01] <Phoenixz> ThinkT510: Believe me, I want to do that, and yes, I am aware of the risks.. I need it to work, something has changed because this worked on 11.04 w/o problem
[18:01] <SolarisB1y> if someone DID break in - then trust me - sudo is of no help at this point..
[18:01] <ThinkT510> SolarisB1y: if the box is on the internet then anything you run that uses sudo will have full access to your box
[18:01] <SolarisB1y> i use permissions properly
[18:01] <SolarisB1y> things that i run on the net are properly sandboxed
[18:01] <graft> Phoenixz: make sure your rule is the last in the file
[18:01] <usr13> ThinkT510: Good reason to use strong passwords and change often.
[18:01] <roasted> Is it true that beginning with 12.04, the preferred method of networking is to use network manager instead of the interfaces file? I find this strange for server users who want the desktop GUI.... can anybody attest to this?
[18:01] <SolarisB1y> www-data has no sudo privs
[18:01] <SolarisB1y> thas about it..
[18:02] <ThinkT510> usr13: indeed, which is why i said don't set sudo to not use a password
[18:02] <kyle__> SolarisB1y: www-data shouldn't have any sudo privs.
[18:02] <SolarisB1y> ofcourse not..
[18:02] <usr13> ThinkT510: Good advise.
[18:02] <graft> roasted: i feel like network manager has been preferred for a while
[18:03] <SolarisB1y> which is why im saying is it really a big risk for me in my sitution? or does it depend on the circumstance on "not disabling sudo password"
[18:03] <MindALot> Using additional drivers: ATI/AMD graphics driver (not post-release udpates) - I can play wine games and what not.. however, I can no longer see the output from ctrl-alt-f1.  I can blind log in and enter commands, but not see them.  Any ideas where I should look for a solution? (google failed me, couldn't find the correct search words)
[18:03] <roasted> graft: networkmanager has certainly gotten better, but I never would have thought it'd be "better" to use for a server................
[18:03] <SolarisB1y> especially since it is granular - for user or groups.. its not like it has to be global
[18:03] <graft> roasted: server with a GUI seems an exceptional use case
[18:03] <Phoenixz> graft: good suggestion, will check.. thanks!
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> SolarisB1y  type /nick [correct name]
[18:04] <kyle__> humm.  Maybe then.
[18:04] <SolarisB1y> thats not what i need to do
[18:04] <SolarisB1y> i need to ghost my home name
[18:04] <SolarisB1y> and then do that..
[18:04] <Phoenixz> graft: that was the problem, thanks!
[18:04] <SolarisB1y> but im lazy today =)
[18:04] <usr13> a server with a GUI makes little to no sense to me.
[18:04] <roasted> graft: I'll give network  manager a shot.
[18:04] <roasted> usr13: well, not much choice in the matter here, as it's what's set up - I'm just here upgrading it.
[18:04] <SolarisB1y> MonkeyDust: what was the origin of that comment anyway? you don't like the B1y? =)
[18:05] <usr13> roasted: Well, you could always unintall the GUI apps, (at any time).
[18:05] <graft> roasted: seems like on a server you'd want to just stick with the interfaces file... network manager requires you to be logged in to have a connection
[18:05] <graft> roasted: so if you do a remote reboot, you're kind of screwed
[18:06] <usr13> roasted: One needs to be careful with servers and one of the best security features is to not have un-necessary software installed.
[18:06] <SolarisB1y> why would network manager not bring up network on a remote reboot? assuming the run levels all start properly
[18:06] <usr13> graft: Good advise
[18:07] <zykotick9> !runlevel | SolarisB1y
[18:07] <SolarisB1y> zykotick9: thanks in this case runlevels/upstart events - whatever
[18:08] <kyle__> SolarisB1y: runlevels are arbitrary in other words.
[18:08] <SolarisB1y> why would network manger not start the network at the proper time?
[18:08] <SolarisB1y> kyle__: thanks - aware... i use a lot of distros so it may be force of habit more than anthing else...
[18:09] <zykotick9> SolarisB1y: typically you'd use N-M for wireless, and that typically only connects upon login, not at boot... "N-M is fail" in my opinion (for server it's ridiculous)
[18:09] <SolarisB1y> agreed - i guess that makes me more so not a fan now
[18:09] <kyle__> SolarisB1y: Same here.
[18:09] <SolarisB1y> i generally would default to interfaces file anyway for a server - only reason i run nm at home is because ubuntu one seems to demand it
[18:09] <kyle__> zykotick9: there was another good manager for wireless I read about the other day.  SUpposedly better than NM, non intrusive, and beleives you should deal with your wired connection yourself.
[18:10] <SolarisB1y> wicd?
[18:10] <kyle__> SolarisB1y: Yes, that was it.  Haven't played with it yet.
[18:10] <zykotick9> kyle__: do you mean wicd?  consider that deprecated :(.. which makes me very sad (as i use it on my netbook)
[18:10] <kyle__> :-(
[18:12] <ajudaeu> i cant load my php page http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~punk whoi can i resolved
[18:13] <br0wny> t
[18:15] <Hfuy> It seems printing would require a PPD file from Canon that I don't think they provide, so that's a no.
[18:15] <Hfuy> Skype's downloads don't offer one for 12.04; the most recent is 10.something. Should I get that instead?
[18:15] <kyle__> Hfuy: You use a PPD, or print generic postscript or PCL to it.
[18:15] <kyle__> Hfuy: Or grab the OSX driver, unzip it, and find the ppd in it.
[18:16] <roasted> kyle__: so, I removed the info from thei nterfaces file, fired up network manager.............................................. now 17 works, 18 does not.
[18:16] <roasted> kyle__: I heard a few people say (LTSP devs included) that beginning with 12.04 Network Manager was the preferred way tomanage your network, at least in the desktop version, which is of course what I'm using.
[18:16] <Hfuy> Canon do have a download for "debian and redhat."
[18:17] <Hfuy> Should I get the Skype installer for 10.04, or will that not work?
[18:18] <kyle__> roasted: and still just one route?
[18:18] <kyle__> Hfuy: Try the linux-static-binaries if they have it.  Otherwise, yes try the 10.04 binary.
[18:18] <Hfuy> there is an option called "static"
[18:19] <Hfuy> OK, got that. Opening it with "archive manager"
[18:20] <Hfuy> Er. No installer. What's the procedure?
[18:20] <roasted> kyle__: er, what? you mean only ONE interface set up with the gateway?
[18:20] <kyle__> roasted: only one gateway set.
[18:20] <roasted> each interface in network manager has the gateway listed.
[18:21] <roasted> tried 17.1 and 18.1, then changed both to <IP_ADDRESS>... made 0 difference
[18:21] <kyle__> Did you list the default gateway both times?
[18:21] <kyle__> Hum.
[18:21] <roasted> kyle__: yes on each interface, gateway is listed.
[18:22] <Hfuy> Hmm. I can run "skype" (which is presumably the executable), but nothing appears to happen.
[18:22] <Topol> Who uses Docky here?
[18:23] <Hfuy> oh hm
[18:23] <Hfuy> "error while loading shared file libXss.so.1"
[18:23] <Hfuy> or something like that.
[18:23] <ubuntuN00B> is ubuntu easy to install??
[18:24] <Topol> ubuntuN00B: You talking about dual-booting? The yes
[18:24] <ubuntuN00B> thnx
[18:24] <Topol> then*
[18:24] <roasted> kyle__: k, so here's the basic synopsis I'm facing. My laptop CANNOT PING the server 's eth1, I can only ping eth0. eth1 is 18.2, and eth0 is 17.2. However, the server can ping my laptop via 18.2....
[18:24] <roasted> kyle__: how can a ping work one way?
[18:24] <Topol> If you USB boot it say from bios, you can create a user and password and start the GUI with "startx"
[18:24] <ubuntuN00B> how long does it take?
[18:24] <angela-> try wubi ubuntu ferry easy install in windows
[18:24] <Topol> An hour or less
[18:25] <Topol> If you dont like Unity, try Xubuntu for XFCE or Kubuntu for KDE
[18:25] <Topol> I use 10.04 with GNOME
[18:25] <kyle__> roasted: You did a dist-upgrade right? And are you sure there's no lameo firewall running by default?
[18:25] <Topol> But thats just me
[18:25] <roasted> kyle__: dist-upgrade? no, I did do-release-upgrade -d
[18:25] <Hfuy> is there an easy fix for the error "error while loading shared libraries: libXss.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[18:26] <roasted> kyle__: LTSP devs said dist-upgrade could break things, do-release-update -d was the safe and logical way to go
[18:27] <roasted> kyle__: hmm, looks like google says it HAS to be a firewall, somehow
[18:27] <kyle__> roasted: That's what I meant to say.  Hum.  I'm really tempted to say, switch problem.
[18:27] <roasted> kyle__: same here bro
[18:28] <roasted> kyle__: network manager, to be honest, looks pretty nice now. It's working beautifully.
[18:28] <Topol> ubuntuN00B: Do you still use Windows?
[18:28] <roasted> kyle__: that said, I have to wonder why 17 work snow and 18 doesnt, remember before 17 didnt work and 18 did
[18:29] <kyle__> roasted: I'm wondering if there is maybe eitehr a loopback going on, or the spanning-tree type looback protection goning nuts.
[18:29] <kyle__> Both things would need the network admin to poke the switch.
[18:30] <kyconquers> I am trying to mount a folder from a 11.04 system to a 12.04 system. so far I am not having any luck. I can access the source on the local network using it's host name but can't when I change networks (the destination is on a laptop).
[18:31] <SolarisB1y> i know by default the ufw/iptables setup blocks icmp requests
[18:31] <SolarisB1y> @ kyle__  and roasted
[18:31] <SolarisB1y> its easy to tell. - traceroute -n <IP>
[18:32] <SolarisB1y> look for !X
[18:32] <kyconquers> as of yet I am having trouble mounting it just through the local network, I am using sudo mount <host_of_source>:<source_folder> <destination_folder>
[18:32] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, on the destination box right?
[18:32] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: from a working box to the not responding box yes
[18:33] <Guest21581> Hi everyone, Anybody able to offer advice as to why you tube plays some video's without problems and others it shows a plugin error, it gets better if I disable shockwave flash plugin. I have tried to update the plug ins and/or disable them all and it keeps selectively playing some but not others?? thank you
[18:33] <SolarisB1y> if !X pops up it's admin prohibited which generally maps 1:1 to ICMP rules on the firewall
[18:33] <SolarisB1y> or ACL on an intermediary device - but thats probably not ur issue
[18:34] <kyconquers> I do not see a !X
[18:34] <SolarisB1y> then it probably isn't administratively prohibited
[18:35] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: that wasn't for you - it was for roasted
[18:35] <SolarisB1y> and not getting response from ping etc.
[18:35] <kyconquers> the error I'm getting is wrong fs type.
[18:35] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, oh sorry.
[18:35] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: that error is generally true =)
[18:36] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: what is "it" an NFS mount or Samba or such?
[18:37] <kyconquers> how would I find out?
[18:38] <SolarisB1y> did this mount point ever work or is something new you are setting up? if it's a remote mount do you have access to the system serving it?
[18:39] <kyconquers> this is something completely new and I have full access to both.
[18:39] <SolarisB1y> great - ok - so you know it's a remote mount - because you are using remote mount options.. so may i assume you setup the remote side?
[18:41] <kyconquers> I thought it was like scp where it would prompt me for a password but I did not have to do anything to the source before hand.
[18:41] <roasted> kyle__: fun fact - remember how I was getting the "waiting for network......" error, followed by "booting up without full networking" ?????
[18:41] <SolarisB1y> well no generally - what is your aim?
[18:41] <roasted> kyle__: if I disable the entries in interfaces file, but enable netowrk manager............................... it's fine................
[18:42] <roasted> kyle__: I'm beginning to wonder if network manager is a little more deserving of some credit in regardst o how it works *shrug*
[18:42]  * SolarisB1y coughs **no**
[18:42] <Gabrielmx_x> Anyonem know how to connect xchat with ICQ chat?
[18:42] <usr13> kyconquers: You said you changed network?
[18:42] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, I am going to turn the source into a dev box so I can share files and things through it as well as proxy through it.
[18:43] <killer_> why can't i connect to windows created adhoc
[18:43] <SolarisB1y> ok
[18:43] <kyconquers> I have a desktop and two laptops.
[18:43] <usr13> killer_: No reason why you shouldn't
[18:43] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: decide how you want it to work.. do you want the desktop to share files out for the laptops to connect to?
[18:43] <kyconquers> I am test this on one of my laptop
[18:44] <SolarisB1y> ok - what do you need to share? what will you do with the files on the remote share? what type of files?
[18:44] <usr13> killer_: As long as you know how to connect to another adhoc node.
[18:44] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, no I have a dev box just for this and I want to acces a folder on both laptops and my desktop
[18:44] <SolarisB1y> generally nfs/samba are sufficient - nfs just works - samba.. is samba.. but the linux guys did what they could to make it a solution..
[18:44] <SolarisB1y> then theres other stuff like iscsi - and more - so it's on you.. what do you require
[18:44] <usr13> kyconquers: Can you ping the IP?
[18:45] <kyconquers> usr13, yes all four are on my local network
[18:45] <SolarisB1y> heh - setup a sharing solution before you worry about that afaik..
[18:45] <usr13> kyconquers: All 4?
[18:45] <SolarisB1y> lol i thought you were actually connecting to an existing share..
[18:46] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, mostly music and stuff. but I also want to do word documents (or libbre equivalent)
[18:46] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: what OS are all the systems?
[18:46] <SolarisB1y> all linux kyconquers ?
[18:46] <kyconquers> yes
[18:46] <SolarisB1y> nfs
[18:46] <nja> Hi all
[18:47] <kyconquers> right now the dev is ubuntu 11.04 all others are 12.04 but I want to change the dev to debian
[18:47] <SolarisB1y> check out how to install and configure an nfs-server - and how to update the exports file and let me know if you have any questions
[18:47] <usr13> kyconquers: I thought you said that you were trying to mount *a* folder from a 11.04 system to a 12.04 system"  What do you mean "all four of them"?
[18:47] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[18:48] <SolarisB1y> nfs is rather generic across versions - the install and setup usually stays the same (but it is ubuntu..)..
[18:48] <kyconquers> usr13, a folder from my dev box (1) to my two laptops (2,3) and my desktop (4)
[18:48] <nja> 12.10 needs to get more syncronisation features.
[18:48] <kyconquers> thanks SolarisB1y
[18:48] <jarifle> sup ppl from all over the world i dont know
[18:48] <jarifle> dfjkgbhrgb
[18:48] <usr13> kyconquers: Ok, well, you are all over the place with this issue.  You need to read some documentation.
[18:48] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: sure - and it takes only a few minutes - no need to over complicate anything =)
[18:49] <SolarisB1y> i think he thought it worked like scp usr13 .
[18:49] <nja> Perhaps we could use Ubuntu One to link with software centre, user accounts and system settings.
[18:49] <SolarisB1y> so he didn't know what he had to setup for a remote filesystem share of $any kind
[18:49] <jarifle> gzhgqeKGHQGKFHQUEGHQKLGHQGYQgklsghgkesghsuqgkqhqkgqdgquljfjqgulehgeukgqehugl
[18:49] <usr13> SolarisB1y: Yea, it wasn't making much sense to me...
[18:49] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, will I be able to use it if I change my dev-box to debian?
[18:49] <sw> !rules > jarifle
[18:50] <kyconquers> or does this mean I should keep it ubuntu?
[18:50] <SolarisB1y> maybe your on a different level of understanding for filesystems..
[18:50] <pb> lol strd out!~
[18:50] <SolarisB1y> kyconquers: nfs works doesn't matter just dont install windows or anything
[18:50] <SolarisB1y> *nix has a thing for adhering to protocols well  - there is generally little breakage between standardized implementations on how services should speak on *nix atleast..
[18:51] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, ok that woun't be a problem. thanks again.
[18:51] <SolarisB1y> not so much for m$ - i mean - look what they did to ldap...
[18:51] <kyle__> SolarisB1y: Unless you're talking about OSX and NFSv4.
[18:51] <SolarisB1y> kyle__: heh..
[18:51] <IUC> good evening everyone i have a question i have a major problem on my server  i checked documents but i cant find a solition
[18:51] <pb> just got back from an office were during a storm last night his /system32 got corrupted... and fried the cd rom somehow.. ouch bad run of luck.
[18:51] <IUC> oot@shellmix:~# sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[18:51] <IUC> Syntax error on line 48 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-ispconfig.vhost:
[18:51] <IUC> Invalid command 'SSLEngine', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[18:51] <IUC> Action 'configtest' failed.
[18:51] <FloodBot1> IUC: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <IUC> The Apache error log may have more information.
[18:51] <IUC> ...fail!
[18:51] <SolarisB1y> fix your apache typo..
[18:52] <SolarisB1y> run configtest _before_ restarting IUC
[18:52] <SolarisB1y> Syntax error on line 48 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-ispconfig.vhost look at the line you most likely just edited on line 48 in the file they told you about there..
[18:52] <IUC> well i tried to fix from webmin but still apache cant get up
[18:52] <SolarisB1y> ew webmin?
[18:52] <IUC> yes i am using webmin for free
[18:53] <SolarisB1y> i wouldn't use it at all..
[18:53] <IUC> i am far from local serverat the moment
[18:53] <usr13> IUC: Is this a Ubuntu system?
[18:53] <SolarisB1y> ssh access?
[18:53] <IUC> usr yes ubuntu 12 server
[18:53] <IUC> yes
[18:53] <IUC> port 22
[18:53] <SolarisB1y> so ssh in and fix the typo
[18:54] <zykotick9> !webmin | IUC
[18:54] <SolarisB1y> afaik webmin always had that probably anywhere you install it lol
[18:54] <usr13> IUC: If you used webmin to configure apache, that is more-than-likely your problem.
[18:54] <SolarisB1y> red hat - debian doesn't matter
[18:54] <IUC> ubottu do you have a better free web interface offer instead of webmin
[18:54] <usr13> ubuntu 12?
[18:55] <IUC> well i am not :)
[18:55] <usr13> IUC: lsb_release -r
[18:55] <IUC> yeps 12.04 lts
[18:56] <IUC> Release:        12.04
[18:56] <MindALot> anyone know how to disable vesafb on ubuntu ?
[18:56] <IUC> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[18:56] <IUC> this is where i download from
[18:56] <MindALot> I read that I can pass vesafb.nonsense=1  to grub... but I don't know how to do that specifically
[18:57] <usr13> IUC: If you install webmin on your 12.04 server then you will more-than-likely have problems.  Problems that webmin can't fix, ones that *you* will have to fix.
[18:58] <IUC> usr13 i am what exactly i am trying to do at the moment
[18:58] <IUC> pico /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-ispconfig.vhost
[18:58] <usr13> IUC: What did you download from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server ?
[18:58] <IUC> ubuntu 12.04 lts what else :)
[18:58] <usr13> IUC: webmin
[18:59] <usr13> IUC: At any rate, what does the log say?
[18:59] <IUC> user13 hold on a minute please eh i am trying to find the damn bug
[18:59] <usr13> IUC: Bug?  What are you talking about?
[19:00] <ffej> I have a USB memory stick.  It is a bootable UBUNTU live, but it went south during an update.  Specifically, it ran out of room.  I would like to now completely erase everything on it and make it a *current* bootable UBUNTU live device.  I know there is one or 2 terminal commands to do this but I can't find them anywhere.
[19:00] <roasted> Question - is there a way in 12.04 to create a link that points directly to a samba share? I used to create a"location" shortcut but that feature is now missing in 12.04
[19:00] <usr13> IUC: pastebinit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-ispconfig.vhost
[19:01] <pb> pb|cod
[19:01] <pb> misstype sorry
[19:03] <ffej> I have a USB memory stick.  It is a bootable UBUNTU live, but it went south during an update.  Specifically, it ran out of room.  I would like to now completely erase everything on it and make it a *current* bootable UBUNTU live device.  I know there is one or 2 terminal commands to do this but I can't find them anywhere.
[19:03] <Charbel> hi, i just installed ubuntu 11.10 and i installed firmware installer for my broadcom 4311 wireless but when i run ifconfig wlan0 up i get wlan0: error fetching interface information: device not found and when i run ip link set wlan0 up i get Cannot find device "wlan0" anyone can help plz ?
[19:04] <kyle__> O_o holy crap.    You realize that webmin was made as a crutch to let web-designers who knew nothing about running a system deploy their own pages.
[19:07] <_sarah___> usr13: run sudo rm -rf /
[19:07] <pozic_> The property that apt-get -b source packagename gets and builds packagename for all packages doesn't hold.
[19:07] <alfo-77> ciao
[19:07] <alfo-77> !list
[19:07] <kyle__> _sarah___: Ahhem.   That's not nice.
[19:08] <IUC> umm i am so far from couptng and programming for long years kylie i had 2 heart attacks 2 brain blooding stand on my heart at the moment Diabetic +HT patient here
[19:08] <_sarah___> wow pops the fuq outta here
[19:08] <_sarah___> later d-bags
[19:08] <SolarisB1y> lolZ
[19:08] <ThinkT510> pozic: what are you trying to get source of?
[19:08] <alfo-77> http//:www.youtube.com
[19:08] <aetas-dk> HI everyone. Could anyone help me figur out a problem. I can connect to my ubuntu 12.04 server using ssh, but no other connection is possible
[19:08] <pozic_> ThinkT510: not of importance for this question.
[19:09] <ultamatum> hello
[19:09] <ultamatum> how do i actally install ubuntu
[19:09] <IUC> ateas-dk welcome to club yet another victim of ubuntu we see here :)
[19:09] <QubitSmuggler> put the cd in the tray
[19:09] <kyle__> ultamatum: download the iso, burn it to a cd, boot off the cd?
[19:09] <QubitSmuggler> and click the buttons
[19:09] <pozic_> ThinkT510: it's a package which Ubuntu distributes and which I can also download as source from the upstream source.
[19:09] <aetas-dk> thanks IUC :)
[19:09] <ultamatum> i have it set up on my other computer and its got a selection screen
[19:09] <IUC> ateas:)
[19:10] <Pe1000b> @find le pyromane
[19:10] <pozic_> ThinkT510: in fact, according to the rules of the GPL, I should be able to obtain source.
[19:10] <usr13> IUC: No idea.
[19:10] <aetas-dk> IUC: Have you had any experience with the problem?
[19:10] <|Anthony|> i want to set ulimit -n unlimited but don't know how
[19:10] <IUC> ateas nope not yet
[19:10] <pozic_> !source
[19:10] <IUC> usr13 ok thanks
[19:10] <ThinkT510> pozic: thats lovely, what's stopping you
[19:10] <|Anthony|> when i set /etc/security/limits.conf to any number ulimit -n still shows 1024
[19:10] <ub__> abstract
[19:10] <ultamatum> i have it set up on my other computer and its a selection screen up just now and when i click install ubuntu it just comes up a flashing light then every so often it comes up a big white flash please help
[19:11] <|Anthony|> where is it storing this info
[19:11] <pozic_> ThinkT510: yeah, I should totally go and sue Canonical.
[19:11] <tgm4883> Where can I find the short GPL v3 blurb that goes in the top of each file of an application?
[19:11] <IUC> still have a problem with damn ubuntu ateas
[19:11] <aetas-dk> IUC: Okay, thx anyway :) Same problem?
[19:11] <ultamatum> i have it set up on my other computer and its a selection screen up just now and when i click install ubuntu it just comes up a flashing light then every so often it comes up a big white flash please help
[19:11] <IUC> ateas no  here is my problem n.com/kHFVbbBS
[19:11] <OptimizedCoder> Question abt partitioning (gparted) - I'm running a Wubi install - I recently added a new hdd
[19:12] <OerHeks> |Anthony|, still your java issue what needs more than 1024 open files?
[19:12] <OptimizedCoder> Under gparted I see three devices sda sdb and sdc
[19:12] <IUC> Syntax error on line 48 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-ispconfig.vhost:
[19:12] <ultamatum> same i am running a wubi thing on a disk i bought the disk online
[19:12] <OptimizedCoder> I'm thinking sdc is the new hdd I added - how do I make sure that it indeed was the last added hdd?
[19:12] <OptimizedCoder> \like form dmesg / equivalent?
[19:12] <aetas-dk> n.com?
[19:12] <IUC> pastebin
[19:12] <IUC> sorry for that
[19:12] <|Anthony|> lol OerHeks yes... getting frustrated with the program devs suggestion that i increase it to 65k
[19:12] <aetas-dk> ah
[19:12] <subman> I seem to be having an issue with Firefox locking up and taking up a huge amount of CPU.  When looking in System Monitor, every running process shows 'Waiting Channel' as 'poll_schedule_timeout' is this normal?
[19:13] <IUC> its over heat here arround 35 C so hot
[19:13] <IUC> many laptops and pc and systems working on my room
[19:13] <OptimizedCoder> Any ideas y'all?
[19:13] <aetas-dk> IUC: L'll take a look
[19:13] <IUC> ok thanks for help
[19:13] <kyle__> subman: what do you have open when that happens?  How much ram do you have?
[19:13] <ThinkT510> OptimizedCoder: you could compare the size
[19:13] <OptimizedCoder> ThinkT510, All ar unfortunately the same size :(
[19:14] <subman> kyle__, 8 GB RAM.  Do you mean what programs or pages open
[19:14] <OptimizedCoder> but being pedantic
[19:14] <OptimizedCoder> there must be a way - to see the last added device right ?
[19:14] <ThinkT510> OptimizedCoder: what are on the other 2 disks?
[19:14] <OptimizedCoder> dmesg
[19:14] <kyle__> OptimizedCoder: dmesg should tell you, also, you could check previous boots in  /var/log/messages, see what the UUID of the old drive is?  I think it shows up in there.
[19:14] <OptimizedCoder> ThinkT510, data
[19:14] <kyle__> subman: pages.
[19:14] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, hmm - let me chk them
[19:14] <ThinkT510> OptimizedCoder: is the 3rd free space
[19:14] <kyle__> subman: Although with 8GB of ram, I'm tempted to say, adobe Flash.
[19:15] <OptimizedCoder> ThinkT510, I'm guessing so - since i got it from our IT folks
[19:15] <subman> The page that seems to give me an issue is running some sample code on codeacademy.com.  I hit the 'Run' button and boom, FF freezes solid.
[19:15] <ThinkT510> OptimizedCoder: gparted will show you if any partitions are on it
[19:16] <subman> kyle__, The page that seems to give me an issue is running some sample code on codeacademy.com.  I hit the 'Run' button and boom, FF freezes solid.
[19:16] <kyle__> subman: Wow.  Does it ever come back with that window saying a script is making it unresponsive?
[19:16] <kyle__> subman: What does it do in opera or chrome?
[19:17] <subman> kyle__, Nope.  CPU goes from 4% to 50%+ and just hangs
[19:17] <subman> kyle__, I'll try that same page in Chromium
[19:18] <kyle__> subman: Strange.  How far into it does it happen?  I've gone through the first two "lessons"
[19:18] <Raydiation_> i installed ubuntu 12.04 and it didnt find my fedora installation. any convenient way to add it to the grub list?
[19:18] <|Anthony|> if i uncomment session    required   pam_limits.so from /etc/pam.d.su, will i need to fully configure /etc/security/limits.conf?
[19:19] <subman> kyle__, I'm JavaScript Fundamentals>FizzBuzz Section 1/3 #5 Counting down,down,down
[19:19] <Raydiation_> haha, just needed to mount it and run update grub
[19:19] <zykotick9> Raydiation_: start by trying "sudo update-grub" and see if it get auto-added.
[19:19] <Raydiation_> zykotick9: had to a
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> Raydiation_:  try rerunning 'sudo update-grub' if that fails to install it. You could edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom to add an entry to boot the other os.
[19:19] <Raydiation_> mount the partition
[19:19] <Raydiation_> ty
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[19:20] <kyconquers> SolarisB1y, I followed the instructions but am getting a access denied error.
[19:20] <kyle__> subman: Does it do that with your code in there, or the default input window?
[19:21] <subman> kyle__, It does the very same in Chromium!  An unresponsive script window comes up though.  Not in FF.  Default input window, modified script as per the lesson.
[19:21] <subman> kyle__, Chromium goes to 80%+
[19:23] <|Anthony|> anyone have input?
[19:23] <kyle__> Wow.  I haven't clicked through far enough to get to fizzbuz.  But wow.  I'm affraid you'll need to send them an email.    I'm just doing that very thing right now!  Thanks for the confirmation though.  Too bad as it is a pretty good resource!
[19:24] <|Anthony|> but seriously
[19:24] <kyle__> |Anthony|: Ooh, about your question.  limmits.conf is a different animal.
[19:24] <VanKush> Dr_Willis: I finally found what was wrong with KDM yesterday. Since LightDM uses own config to populate the session list, it created a ton of dummy profiles in place from which KDM populates its own list... renaming those fixed the issue
[19:25] <kyle__> subman: Yea, looks cool.  Similar one for ruby on this site http://www.codeschool.com/courses
[19:25] <|Anthony|> basically i want to set ulimit -n unlimited
[19:25] <kyle__> ;) have to plug my favorite language
[19:25] <|Anthony|> and have it work as expected
[19:25] <|Anthony|> modifying limits.conf the changes aren't persistent
[19:25] <kyle__> |Anthony|: Umm.  Err.  I thought ubuntu didn't set ulimits by default...which would make them unlimmited.
[19:26] <kyle__> Dammnit, I keep putting two mms when I write limmit.
[19:26] <kyle__> limit.
[19:26] <|Anthony|> ulimit -n 1024
[19:26] <kyle__> There.
[19:26] <|Anthony|> that's the default
[19:27] <kyle__> |Anthony|: Oh.  Well, why don't you want to set that in /etc/security/limits.conf?  That's the right place for them.
[19:27] <|Anthony|> despite the fact that i have nofile 2048
[19:27] <|Anthony|> i did
[19:27] <kyle__> O_o
[19:27] <kyle__> |Anthony|: And it didn't respect it?
[19:27] <|Anthony|> nope
[19:28] <|Anthony|> tbh i set the hard @ 2048
[19:28] <|Anthony|> that was all i defined there though
[19:28] <|Anthony|> not a soft
[19:29] <|Anthony|> @anthony        hard    nofile          unlimited
[19:29] <|Anthony|> is what i would like to have
[19:29] <kyle__> |Anthony|: What was your syntax?  Because I jsut set it, sshed in, and it worked for setting it to a numeric.
[19:29] <|Anthony|> but i dont think ulimited is a valid value
[19:29] <kyle__> Testing for "unlimited" now.
[19:30] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, http://pastebin.com/WWRhG8im
[19:30] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, How do I know from here which was the last added disk ?
[19:30] <jefkin> I have a php 5.3.10 source build problem for ubuntu 12.04  -- I found a parallel issue -> from aways back  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/+bug/837049 ... if this isn't the right place to ask, could someone clue me into a better place?
[19:32] <aetas-dk> HI everyone. Could anyone help me figur out a problem. I can connect to my ubuntu 12.04 server using ssh, but no other connection is possible
[19:33] <|Anthony|> aetas-dk, sudo ufw status
[19:33] <trism> jefkin: it would be more helpful to pastebin the output when you build so we can see the error
[19:33] <kyle__> OptimizedCoder: Were both discs in when you botted?
[19:33] <kyle__> booted?
[19:33] <jefkin> trism: ok, comming :)
[19:33] <zykotick9> aetas-dk: what service(s) are you failing to connect to?  are ports forwarded?
[19:34] <kyle__> |Anthony|: Hu.  You're right.  It's not taking it.  I thought - was supposed to mean it didn't set a limit.
[19:34] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, Actually 3 disk - I already had 2 disks - the 3rd disk was added in - all unfortunately 160gigs
[19:34] <aetas-dk> member:zykotick9, well I can see it on my network, but not connect
[19:34] <kyle__> OptimizedCoder: Added after boot time, or before boot time?
[19:34] <|Anthony|> kyle__, something about pam.d/su
[19:34] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, before
[19:34] <zykotick9> aetas-dk: connect using what?
[19:34] <aetas-dk> member:identifier:|anthony|, Status: inactive
[19:34] <m1chael> anyone have any idea how to stream google talk / skype out to an icecast server?
[19:35] <aetas-dk> member:zykotick9, I have tried both smb, and afp. afp usually works. Im running a LAMP
[19:35] <kyle__> OptimizedCoder: Um.  Strange, I don't see any info in there.  Is there anything on the new drive?
[19:35] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, Shouldn't be
[19:35] <zykotick9> !lamp | aetas-dk this sorta LAMP?
[19:36] <jefkin> make failure -> http://pastebin.com/C211fdBf
[19:36] <kyle__> OptimizedCoder: Then just type fdisk -l, and the one with no partitions should be it.
[19:36] <OptimizedCoder> can I just mount /dev/sdc1 <location> to try and see if it is accessible?
[19:36] <trism> jefkin: which ubuntu version are you on?
[19:36] <kyle__> OptimizedCoder: if there's nothing on it, there might not BE a 1 partition.
[19:36] <sasser> good luck to all of them groupcat ;)
[19:37] <jefkin> trism: 12.04
[19:37] <kyle__> OptimizedCoder: But then again there might be.  Give it a shot.
[19:37] <aetas-dk> member:ubottu: the Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP - however I have modifed it to be able to use it with my mac, so I could do timemachine backup
[19:38] <kyle__> I need to go forrage for food and coffee.  Be back later.
[19:38] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, http://pastebin.com/Kaaw7wXa -> I'm not sure which is the new one now sda1/sdc1
[19:38] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, How do I know where my /dev/loop0 comes from (using WUBI) - through /sda1 / sdc1
[19:38] <jefkin> trism: I see on that bug I mentioned earlier 837049, the last poster from a few months ago seemed to hit the same problem as I just did.
[19:39] <OptimizedCoder> kyle__, how do I get that info?
[19:41] <joel135> Hi, I'd like to set horizontal and vertical mouse speed separately. How do I do this? The reason I want to do it is my pointer moves really fast vertically when the aspect ratio of my desktop is low (e.g. http://goo.gl/JYcJG)
[19:42] <trism> jefkin: we have a bunch of libtool patches in the package, I'm not sure which (if any) work around the issue, I'll see if I can reproduce it and figure it out
[19:42] <jefkin> trism: also, note, after running into the CDPATH part in that bug, I -- on my own, hacked the libtool to add a lt_unset='unset' ... in order to get past the line 481.
[19:43] <jefkin> trism: but that didn't actually solve the problem :)
[19:43] <OptimizedCoder> How do I know where my /dev/loop0 comes from (using WUBI) - through /sda1 or /sdc1? How do I tellthis?
[19:44] <jefkin> trism: do those patches come with the package itself? -- or is there a place I can download them?
[19:45] <trism> jefkin: apt-get source php5; they are in debian/patches/
[19:45] <jefkin> trism: lol just found them :D
[19:54] <prashantj> hi
[19:55] <The10thDragonn> sup
[19:55] <jefkin> trism: the bug says amd64 only, and I'm not sure what my processor is on this box, but I'm thinking that you may not be able to reproduce if that is a real condition for the failure
[19:55] <beandog> jefkin: lscpu
[19:56] <The10thDragonn>  ?
[19:56] <prashantj> Can you explain ?
[19:56] <trism> jefkin: yeah I haven't been able to reproduce it yet (I am testing on amd64 though)
[19:56] <The10thDragonn> --------------------------------------------------------------------
[19:57] <OptimizedCoder> Got all my answers! Thanks y'all
[19:57] <The10thDragonn> np
[19:59] <djskidd> hi, how do I allocate more memory to Minecraft? I have 1024MB avail, want to allocate 750MB to Minecraft in XUbuntu
[19:59] <jefkin> beandog: thanks, trism: http://pastebin.com/zefH3Yrg
[19:59] <tinman> is any one else having issues with ubuntu slowing down your  internet connection?
[20:00] <testuser> djskidd: set it in the start up java command line
[20:00] <djskidd> how?
[20:00] <testuser> I can't remember the argument, but you can tell it how much to use
[20:00] <djskidd> so far my command in Guake is java -jar minecraft.jar
[20:00] <djskidd> what else do I put in?
[20:00] <mbroadst> is anyone aware of a ppa for a newer version of connman, preferably 0.79+
[20:01] <cookie4270> djskidd: java -Xmx750M -Xms750M -jar minecraft.jar
[20:01] <testuser> yep
[20:01] <testuser> you can google it for more detail
[20:01] <testuser> anyone know anything about java-6-openjdk not fully installing properly?
[20:01] <testuser> I have missing files in the headless package
[20:01] <testuser> when doing an MD5 comparision
[20:01] <The10thDragonn> reinstall shud fix it
[20:02] <testuser> I did aptitude reinstall
[20:02] <djskidd> how can I do a shortcut to that command?
[20:02] <testuser> anything else?
[20:02] <djskidd> like I doubleclick something, and it will automatically execute that command?
[20:03] <The10thDragonn> kidd right click it make sure its executable
[20:04] <The10thDragonn> read instruction for java make sure did everthing step by step
[20:04] <usr13> testuser: Why are you using aptitude?
[20:05] <djskidd> how do I mark the jar as executable
[20:05] <The10thDragonn> one thing i learned about linux you cnt skip any instructions -_- or it wnt wrk right
[20:05] <tensorpudding> djskidd, you don't
[20:06] <djskidd> tensorpudding, then what do I do?
[20:06] <testuser> usr13 apt-get reinstall
[20:06] <testuser> did nothing
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> i belive the minecraft faq/docs discuss how to start it up
[20:06] <tensorpudding> djskidd, maybe nautilus requires it to be now, i don't know, you right click and check out properties
[20:06] <testuser> I mean it typed it out
[20:06] <rhizmoe> wow, i think i found a comparison of window managers that isn't riddled with spelling errors and txtspeak
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> make a shell script to laucnh it. then a launcher to run that script would be a common way
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> txtspeak? ;)
[20:07] <djskidd> I get this: "The file '/home/djskidd/minecraft.jar' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit."
[20:07] <b0nghitter> on ubuntu server 12.04, how do i stop the screen from going blank after a few min?
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> !permissions | djskidd
[20:07] <testuser> usr13 any suggestion how to reinstall then?
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> you want to give minecraft addational options when launched i belive.
[20:08] <usr13> testuser: It has been my experience that reinstalling usually does not fix anything.
[20:09] <usr13> testuser: but just apt-get remove or apt-get purge and then apt-get install
[20:09] <usr13> if you must...
[20:09] <glebihan> testuser, with apt-get, to reinstall you have to use "apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>"
[20:09] <testuser> ah okay
[20:09] <testuser> I did that
[20:09] <testuser> result was this
[20:10] <testuser> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openjdk-6-jre-headless_6b24-1.11.3-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_amd64.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.6.0-openjdk', which is also in package default-jre-headless 1:1.6-43ubuntu2
[20:10] <terminhell> howdy
[20:10] <prashant_123456> where can i get free shell account i have tried shellmix.com and freelinuxconsole.info all waste of time any suggestions ?
[20:11] <The10thDragonn> fshell.org
[20:11] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, you waste your time here, this is ubuntu support only.
[20:11] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, ok
[20:11] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, sorry
[20:12] <testuser> glebihan or usr13 any ideas on that error? or how to get around it?
[20:12] <b0nghitter> setterm -blank 0 did not error, but -powersave off says invalid argument
[20:12] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:12] <b0nghitter> and the help says to use on/off etc
[20:12] <rsajdok> Is it possible to set workspace switcher on top panel in the unity?
[20:13] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, thanks
[20:13] <Dr_Willis> rsajdok:  theres some indicator-applets that put a menu or icon in the top panel to change work spaces  - saw them in the list of indicator-applets on askubuntu.com
[20:15] <rsajdok> Dr_Willis: thanks :)
[20:15] <testuser> no one have a clue about that error?
[20:15] <testuser> or how I can resolve it to fix the installation?
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> testuser:  you are installing 2 packagtes that seem to both want to install the same file. so either remove the one you dont need.. or move/rename the file  as a nasty work around perhaps.
[20:16] <testuser> hmm
[20:16] <testuser> that is going to be fun
[20:17] <blitz> what does Run as root is not need, just append self into 'disk' group and relogin. mean
[20:17] <blitz> how do I append myself into the 'disk' group
[20:17] <beandog> sudo gpasswd -a username disk
[20:17] <blitz> thanks
[20:18] <beandog> then su - username
[20:18] <beandog> groups
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> dont forget teh -a ;)
[20:18] <beandog> or just log in and out
[20:18] <blitz> relogging is easier
[20:18] <beandog> out and in.
[20:18] <beandog> -_-
[20:19] <blitz> I don't think it worked
[20:19] <beandog> run groups
[20:19] <beandog> see what it says
[20:20] <blitz> blitz adm disk dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[20:20] <diverdude> Are repo apps being code reviewed?
[20:20] <blitz> disk is under my groups
[20:21] <DMASS> Hey everybody,   I hope someone can help cause Im out of ideas.  Im trying to communicate with an RS-232 device via a KeySpan USB to Serial adapter from a simple bash script to be run by cron.   If i use screen I can communicate with the device with no problems, but if I try to echo"mycmd" > /dev/ttyUSB0, I get nothing.  Ive checked dmesg and lsusb and everything looks fine. Ive also veryified baud stop bits etc, with stty. I have found simular issues online
[20:21] <DMASS>  nothing actaully solved my problem. Anyone have any suggestions?   Oh ya,  Ubuntu Server 12.04
[20:21] <blitz> ok it's working, thanks
[20:22] <rhizmoe> i like how nobody actually describes what xmonad/awesome offer
[20:22] <jefkin> trism: sweet! ... applied all the patches that had 'LT' in a lib tool context, in them, then all that had lt_ a few CVE's that were missing but finally, ran  debian/patches/001-libtool_fixes.patch and that has me building... a big old  WOOT!
[20:22] <beandog> DMASS: it's a stab in the dark, but I wonder if there's a missing kernel module
[20:22] <rhizmoe> nobody blogging about that kind of thing, that is
[20:22] <DMASS> ive done modprobe just to be sure
[20:22] <jefkin> trism: should I get you the list of all the patches I applied?
[20:23] <beandog> DMASS: well there's ones for serial devices, plus also usb
[20:23] <beandog> DMASS: anyway, I dunno.  I'm just guessing.
[20:23] <beandog> but that's the first place I'd look
[20:23] <beandog> although if you already have the /dev file, then it's probably in there.
[20:24] <beandog> DMASS: there's some apps to see what's going over the wire on USB though .. also need kernel modules, probably usb monitor at the very least.
[20:24] <DMASS> beandog:  ya, I have verified that the KEYSPAN modual is there and the usbserial as well;  thanks for the suggestion Ill take any thing right now
[20:25] <DMASS> beandog: any suggestions for a USB sniffer?
[20:25] <trism> jefkin: excellent, if you have a list available for pastebin I'd be interested in looking, but otherwise don't worry about it, happy you got it compiling
[20:27] <beandog> DMASS: no, dunno, just know that they're out there
[20:27] <beandog> DMASS: also looking at the kernel config, I'm not sure everything is in there.
[20:27] <TylerKG123> Hey
[20:27] <beandog> DMASS: lemme check something real fast ... gimme a few
[20:27] <TylerKG123> Anyone here know why my computer won't mark things as executable?
[20:27] <TylerKG123> I have the latest Xubuntu, that's all I know;
[20:28] <guntbert> DMASS: as far as I know  wireshark will sniff usb too
[20:28] <TylerKG123> I'm a Linux noob
[20:28] <beandog> DMASS: also, http://sewelldirect.com/support/usbtoserialsupportlinux.aspx maybe?
[20:28] <TylerKG123> Bean, do you know how to fix my issue?
[20:28] <ceege> snoopy is a usb sniffer
[20:28] <guntbert> !patience | TylerKG123
[20:29] <DMASS> beandog: awesome, I have not seen that page yet somehow
[20:29] <insano> Is there any conversor for rmvb video?
[20:29] <beandog> DMASS: I just googled for linux debug usb serial
[20:30] <TylerKG123> Well, Ubot and Gunt, I'm just a bit aggravated because I just can't get it to work. I've checked all the forums, and I just don't know why it doesn't work! The only program outside of Software Center I got to work is Skype.
[20:30] <DMASS> beandog: this has become one of those issues were you get sucked in to thread after thread and Im sure ive lost the forest through the trees
[20:30] <beandog> DMASS: okay, wow, I think I found a major hole here
[20:30] <beandog> DMASS: How do you feel about building your own kernel? :)
[20:31] <carly_> a
[20:31] <beandog> DMASS: need to flip on usb verbose debug messages, usb announce new devices, and a few more
[20:31] <carly_> hola
[20:31] <beandog> DMASS: at the very *least* those will give you more system output
[20:31] <insano> Is there any conversor for rmvb video?
[20:31] <DMASS> beandog: ive never done it but everybodys gotta start somewhere
[20:31] <beandog> insano: ffmpeg should do it
[20:32] <beandog> DMASS: don't let it scare you, it's not bad.
[20:32] <DMASS> beandog: thanks, ill start googling
[20:32] <beandog> DMASS: I don't now how to do it in ubuntu, but I can tell you which options to flip on
[20:32] <DMASS> yes please
[20:32] <beandog> DMASS: I'll PM yah
[20:32] <insano> beandog, I've been googling it, but I didn't found anything to convert to RMVB
[20:32] <cmake> is there a differences in man and info on a certain command or do they both access the same data ?
[20:32] <beandog> insano: oh, *to* rmvb?  I dunno
[20:33] <cmake> info diff and man diff looks to contain nothing really different
[20:33] <insano> beandog, That's the problem, I need it...
[20:34] <guntbert> cmake: often they are different, in many manpages you read "full documentation is to be found in info
[20:34] <cmake> man info  info man :)
[20:34] <insano> Other OSs have it, but Ubuntu doesn't have one
[20:35] <cmake> so info usually contains all the man page information and more. So man is just really a subset of info ?
[20:35] <insano> I've been googling it, but I didn't found anything to convert to RMVB. Anyone knows?
[20:35] <beandog> insano: windows software?
[20:36] <beandog> insano: wait, what do you mean other OSes
[20:36] <Catman012> Hello
[20:36] <guntbert> cmake: as far as I know  they are maintained separately, but I never got the hang of info :)
[20:36] <rhizmoe> s'pose i have to log out to switch DEs
[20:36] <insano> beandog, Mac OS and Windows...
[20:36] <guntbert> rhizmoe: yep
[20:36] <beandog> insano: oh, okay.  yah, use one of those I guess
[20:37] <rhizmoe> thanko
[20:37] <insano> beandog, Yeah, I'll have to do it...
[20:37] <vbn_> insano: what u looking for...?
[20:37] <cmake> is there online info docs like the linuxmanpages website
[20:37] <insano> vbn_, how to converto to rmvb...
[20:37] <vbn_> ok
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> cmake  http://linuxmanpages.com/
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> cmake  oh, you referred to that
[20:38] <cmake> yes
[20:38] <cmake> those are the man pages
[20:39] <cmake> but is there an info page website if they are truely different information
[20:39] <beandog> eh
[20:39] <beandog> what package has kernel sources
[20:39] <beandog> can't remember.
[20:39] <cmake> and which can out first man info or where they both in the old unic's versions to begin with
[20:40] <beandog> linux-image?
[20:40] <beandog> linux-source
[20:40] <beandog> there we go
[20:41] <guntbert> cmake: please keep in mind that this channel is for ubuntu support only - you may have better luck in #ubuntu-offtopic or in #linux
[20:41] <beandog> cmake: ask in #ffmpeg or #libav
[20:42] <giiker> pardon my ignorance, but does Ubuntu offers some kind of app sandboxing by default?
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> giiker:  apparmour perhaos sort of fits that definition. but its not really the same as a sandbox i guess..
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> !apparmor
[20:43] <beandog> giiker: sandbox or root jails?
[20:43] <giiker> Dr_Willis:  what about SELinux?
[20:44] <TexNixk> insano : ffmpeg has reverse-engineered suport for the .rmf real media format ... have you tried it to see if it works
[20:44] <jefkin> trism: here-> http://pastebin.com/meUwitia  and thanks a bunch for getting me pointed in the right direction!
[20:44] <giiker> beandog: sandbox, you know sandboxing for applications.
[20:44] <beandog> giiker: k just making sure
[20:44] <giiker> beandog: np thanx
[20:46] <brophat> would someting like improvements in my wifi driver get updated during a regular update?
[20:47] <kyle__> Fed and watered
[20:47] <kyle__> s/water/coffee/
[20:47] <giiker> Dr_Willis: I think you were right, apparmor is a security module for the kernel (per Wikipedia) ans SELinux (per Wi...) is a framework based inLinux Security Modules. Thanks
[20:48] <kyle__> brophat: Maybe.  Depends on if there's been an update to the kernel-driver
[20:48] <goddard> if i am logged in over ssh how can i copy files to my local machine?
[20:48] <brophat> kyle_  you know of some good docs for me to learn about all this driver stuff
[20:49] <QubitSmuggler> brophat: lions commentary on the unix operating system
[20:49] <guntbert> goddard: best use scp from your local machine
[20:49] <kyle__> brophat: About which drivers get updated?  Not really.  To understand how it all works, what QubitSmuggler said.
[20:51] <brophat> kyle__ so in the event a significant improvement in my wifi driver occurs, that will be something that gets incorporated automatically with an update? as apposed to me having to do it manually?
[20:51] <b0nghitter> how do i stop bind from logging to syslog? i googled and there is no answer except how to start logging, and "rndc querylog" which i did and it does not work
[20:51] <brophat> QubitSmuggler thanks I am gonna check it out
[20:52] <kyle__> brophat: Yes.
[20:52] <QubitSmuggler> welcome
[20:52] <b0nghitter> i used dns server during the ubuntu server install
[20:52] <b0nghitter> where does ubuntu put whatever is causing it to log to rsyslogd?
[20:53] <kyle__> b0nghitter: hint, look in /etc for anything that might be named rsyslog.
[20:53]  * kyle__ coughs /etc/rsyslog.conf
[20:53] <b0nghitter> kyle__, ive looked through /etc/rsyslog.conf, /etc/defaults/rsyslog and /etc/rsyslog.d/*.conf
[20:54] <b0nghitter> as i said, i googled and it does not say how to turn it off
[20:54] <kyle__> b0nghitter: Ooh ok.  So, what part isn't clear?
[20:54] <brophat> kyle__ yeah cause my wifi card has that imfamous rt3090 chipset, but I think with an update it got a little bit improved. But there is an entire rt2x00 project  http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page  so I am wondering what is taking so long, and also given the fact that ralink is working with linux.
[20:54] <kyle__> You want to turn off the syslog?
[20:54] <b0nghitter> ther is NOTHING about logging in any of those files
[20:54] <b0nghitter> no, read up
[20:54] <guntbert> b0nghitter: the file will be in /etc/rsyslog.d/
[20:55] <b0nghitter> i looked through /etc/rsyslog.d/ 20-ufw.conf      50-default.conf  postfix.conf
[20:55] <kyle__> b0nghitter: It's not a first match type system like you may be used to, it's a little, funky.  If you just want to turn it off, i beleive service rsyslog stop will do
[20:55] <b0nghitter> i need to stop bind flooding my syslog with bs
[20:55] <kyle__> brophat: Ugh.  Sorry dude :/
[20:56] <insano> TexNixk, how do I do that?
[20:56] <kyle__> b0nghitter: Errr, my bind logs almost nothing.. look in your config file to see if it's got verbose or debug on or somesuch
[20:56] <b0nghitter> those 3 files are the only ones in /etc/rsyslog.d/
[20:56] <b0nghitter> its set to whatever ubuntu server 12.04 does by default
[20:57] <b0nghitter> which is why im asking in here
[20:57] <kyle__> b0nghitter: Which file is it writing to?  I think it just writes to /var/log/messages unless there's a rule specified for it.
[20:57] <romy420> b0nghitter: it's in the bind config files: http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch7/logging.html
[20:57] <b0nghitter>  in /var/log/syslog
[20:58] <kyle__> b0nghitter: You see, ANYTHING can write to the syslog system, and if the syslog system has a rule, it seperates those logs out to another file; if it doesn't, it puts it in the default syslog file.
[20:58] <goddard> guntbert: yea what command cause so far it doesn't work
[20:59] <brophat> kyle__ well the wifi is working satisfactorily sometimes now
[20:59] <goddard> guntbert: because i wanna copy the file using sudo
[20:59] <goddard> only root has the permissions
[21:00] <kyle__> brophat: I used to have a broadcom card with hellish issues.  I had to manually set the rate with iwcofig on the device, AFTER it connected, to make it stable.  Dunno if something like that will help you, but I remember it driving me to hock the laptop for <%60 what I paid for it when it was 2 months old.
[21:00] <b0nghitter> romy420, the first thing i did was look through /etc/bind/named.conf, /etc/bind/named.conf.local, and /etc/bind/named.conf.options
[21:00] <margo> Hi. Can anybody recommend an online tutorial/page to get started with python programming?
[21:00] <guntbert> goddard: in that case I'd copy the file on the server into my home dir and then comes scp
[21:01] <kyle__> b0nghitter: Is there anything in /etc/defaults for it?
[21:01] <Boogeyman> why the hell is the random in Rhythmbox anythimg but random?
[21:01] <kyle__> Boogeyman: Prove it's not random
[21:01] <brophat> kyle__ nothing worse than a shitty wifi driver
[21:01] <ejv> anyone here good with iptables? trying to remove this rule with: sudo iptables -D INPUT 1, and it does nothing: 1       36  4316 DROP       all  --  *      *       <IP_ADDRESS>        <IP_ADDRESS>/0
[21:01] <kyle__> Boogeyman: Sorry, that's a troll math question :) But not using rhythmbox I've not seen it.
[21:02] <Boogeyman> of course i'm exagerating, but out of 10,000+ songs, i've heard quite a few of them multiple times, and it seems to like to play the same bands/compilations
[21:03] <b0nghitter> /etc/defaults/rsyslogd only has RSYSLOGD_OPTIONS="-c5", and /etc/defaults/bind9 has RESOLVCONF=no, and OPTIONS="-u bind"
[21:03] <brophat> kyle__ yeah cause there is no such thing as random bwahahahah
[21:03] <kyle__> b0nghitter: what about for bind or named?
[21:03] <goddard> guntbert: ahh ok
[21:03] <brophat> or at least can't be generated by humans
[21:03] <kyle__> Ooh, nevermind, reread.
[21:04] <b0nghitter> no, only /etc/defaults/bind9
[21:04] <insano> I've been googling it, but I didn't found anything to convert to RMVB. Anyone knows?
[21:04] <kyle__> brophat: You have to watch a sequence forever to see if it repeats.
[21:04] <kyle__> b0nghitter: how quickly are the logs growing?  Slow enough a logrotate entry would fix it?
[21:04] <brophat> kyle__ humans can not create a true random generator
[21:05] <brophat> the best humans can do is create a very non predictable generator
[21:05] <kyle__> brophat: when we were dating, my wife had a "white noise" machine.  It had a random period of something like 14 minutes, and damnit, if it didn't ALWAYS wake me up when it started to repeat.
[21:05] <brophat> haha ok
[21:05] <QubitSmuggler> lol
[21:06] <TexNixk> insano : did you notice my earlier post ?
[21:06] <TexNixk> about ffmpeg ?
[21:06] <b0nghitter> its clobbering the syslog with "query (cache) 'blah.com/A/IN' denied and reverse lookups
[21:07] <insano> TexNixk, yeah, how do I do that?
[21:07] <insano> TexNixk, I google it, but found nothing
[21:07] <TexNixk> ffmpeg is open source software ... you can just google it
[21:08] <guntbert> brophat: back to ubuntu support please
[21:08] <kyle__> b0nghitter: Does this help? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-enable-dns-linux-unix-server-logging/
[21:08] <TexNixk> i believe sourceforge hosts it
[21:08] <TexNixk> it's multi platform
[21:08] <insano> TexNixk, I have it installed
[21:08] <b0nghitter> that was one of my google results, which is where i got rndc querylog from
[21:08] <kyle__> b0nghitter: Ahh.
[21:09] <romy420> b0nghitter: this page contains info for configuring bind's log level: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto
[21:09] <insano> TexNixk, I tried to use it to converto to rmvb, but it didnt work
[21:09] <mint> hi
[21:09] <TexNixk> ok ... try ffmpeg -i inputFile.ext -sameq outFile.ext
[21:09] <mint> can anyone help me setting up a parititon?
[21:10] <TexNixk> where inputFile is the file youwant to eonvert & outFile is the name you want for the output
[21:10] <TexNixk> use .rmf for the file extension of the rmvb file
[21:11] <b0nghitter> romy420, that was another one of my google results, and i looked through the named.conf named.conf.local and named.conf.options files, neither of them contain anything about logging
[21:11] <b0nghitter> which i expected to see at least somewhere
[21:11] <XiRoN> Hi how, can I check the file owners of a specific folder
[21:11] <romy420> maybe u have to add it, although it should be there, that's right
[21:12] <TexNixk> rmvb is similar to the mpeg4 10 format sillar to x264
[21:12] <mint> can anyone help me setting up partitions?  i'm at the partition screen for the installer...
[21:12] <guntbert> XiRoN: ls -l /path/to folder shows the files,  ls -ld /path/to/folder shows the folder
[21:12] <Zeerover> Could I have help, theres 3 web browsers i want to try out Web (Epiphany), Links, and Midori. Could any of you help me figure out how to install them under a .deb file?
[21:12] <insano> TexNixk, OK, let me try it
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> Zeerover:  if they are not in the repos. find a PPA for them.
[21:13] <adee> mint: create a root partition and a swap
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> !info links
[21:13] <Zeerover> Dr_Wills I cant even find the download links for them
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> !info midori
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> Zeerover:  no need to.. use the pacakge manager...
[21:14] <Zeerover> Be right back I have to take the garbage
[21:14] <guntbert> Zeerover: try links2 instead· it is in the repos too
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> Zeerover:  this is not like windows where yoi just download instllers. ;)
[21:14] <b0nghitter> ahhhhh, i guess i should have read the small print... "If no logging option is configured for the default option is: "
[21:14] <insano> TexNixk, http://pastebin.com/r1zugqYP
[21:14] <Zeerover> guntbert i meant to say Links2, thank you though
[21:15] <mint> AdedioR: no idea, what root is, im new
[21:15] <SolarisB1y> hey guntbert hows it going man
[21:15] <b0nghitter> i have to add a logging section in named.conf.local
[21:15] <romy420> b0nghitter: then i was guessing right :) just add what u need
[21:15] <QubitSmuggler> root is the highest level of priviledge
[21:15] <b0nghitter> yes, ty for your patience
[21:16] <insano> TexNixk, It does not recognize the output format
[21:17] <TexNixk> insano instead of .rmvb use .rmf ... i think that's the registered extension for rmvb content
[21:17] <oXis> I have a problem
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> why would you need rmvb or rmf these dayas?
[21:17] <oXis> Help
[21:18] <QubitSmuggler> what is it/
[21:18] <oXis> I have an hp dv5 laptop with media touch keys
[21:18] <insano> TexNixk, I tried rmf and didnt work, so I tried rm and it worked.
[21:18] <insano> TexNixk, But give an error
[21:18] <adee> mint: than Google it... and next time write my name instead of AdedioR...
[21:18] <oXis> everything went great until I updated the drivers
[21:18] <oXis> now the sound is always changing
[21:19] <TexNixk> yeah Dr_Willis has a point ... rmvb is about the same as x264 ... & x264 is the thing now days
[21:19] <oXis> I don't know how to explain it
[21:19] <oXis> the black sound box is always appears and disturbing me
[21:19] <QubitSmuggler> nothing else, no spills or anything
[21:19] <oXis> How do I fix it?
[21:20] <romy420> mint: will ubuntu be your only operating system? or is windows there too?
[21:20] <insano> Dr_Willis, adobe pdf can handle videos , right? But in linux, it's the only format that it can handle.
[21:20] <Dr_Willis> pdf videos?
[21:21] <oXis> help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:21] <oXis> plzzzz
[21:21] <zykotick9> insano: embedding videos in pdf seems insane to me...
[21:21] <mint> should the boot partition be ext2 or 4?
[21:21] <insano> Dr_Willis, TexNixk I'm making a presentation in beamer, so I need to make it play the video during the presentation
[21:21] <Zeerover> alright im back
[21:21] <bekks> mint: It doesnt matter, basically.
[21:21] <insano> zykotick9, yeah, that's my nickname
[21:21] <QubitSmuggler> oxis i have no idea, look for new drivers
[21:21] <adee> mint: ext4, never use ext2 nowdays
[21:21] <oXis> where?
[21:22] <adee> bekks: journaling... yes, it matters
[21:22] <oXis> I can't change the volume
[21:22] <mint> adee: ive read that journaling is not good for boot partition?
[21:22] <zykotick9> adee: actually ssd drives are a good ext2 use case
[21:22] <romy420> mint: ext2 is a bit safer
[21:22] <beandog> mint: that's true.  you don't need it.
[21:22] <romy420> for /boot !
[21:22] <bekks> adee: How often does /boot change, and which amount of data is changed there? It doesnt matter :)
[21:22] <adee> mint: SSD? HDD?
[21:22] <mint> hdd, mechanical
[21:22] <insano> Latex beamer make the output file in pdf, so I've no option.
[21:22] <Zeerover> im running ubuntu 11.04 do any of you know how to get Midori, Epiphany, and links2 browsers on my PC?
[21:23] <adee> bekks: but when it changes and something happens, you have to fsck......
[21:23] <dankest> How do I transfer my SSL keys from one apache server to another?
[21:23] <guntbert> Zeerover: sudo apt-get install midori epiphany links2
[21:23] <zykotick9> Zeerover: "sudo apt-get midori ephipahy links2" maybe?
[21:23] <zykotick9> guntbert: lol - fail on my part ;)
[21:23] <Zeerover> Thank you guys
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> i cant recall ever seeing a PDF file with embeded videos...
[21:24] <bekks> adee: The same thing applies to a journaled filesystem - you have to fsck after replaying the journal.
[21:24] <romy420> mint: will ubuntu be your only operating system? or is windows there too?
[21:24] <adee> zykotick9: ext2 is never a good choice in 2012, in SSD use btrfs
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> Zeerover:  the software-center should be fairly easy to figure out.
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> !manual | Zeerover
[21:24] <TexNixk> insano : let me give it a try ... brb
[21:24] <zykotick9> adee: vtrfs you're funny
[21:24] <Zeerover> Thank you so much Dr__Willis
[21:25] <bekks> adee: btrfs does not have a reasonable stable fsck. :)
[21:25] <zykotick9> bekks: +1
[21:25] <adee> bekks: reasonable?
[21:25] <insano> TexNixk, OK
[21:25] <bekks> adee: And still, you can kill your btrfs when filling it up to 100%. 'nuff said for disabling it as an alternative to ext4.
[21:26] <zykotick9> bekks: +2
[21:26] <bekks> adee: The fsck code for btrfs is highly experimental.
[21:26] <adee> zykotick9: vtrfs? funny...
[21:26] <zykotick9> adee: that's called a typo
[21:27] <adee> bekks: i'm not sure that's true anymore.
[21:27] <mint> after i make a boot parition the rest is greyed out? it wont let me make any more paritions
[21:28] <adee> mint: probably used up all your free space?
[21:28] <romy420> i guess he did
[21:28] <bekks> adee: Unless it is called "rock stable" by the kernel devs, I'd not call it "stable" or recommend it to others.
[21:28] <mint> adee: no, i have a 600gb
[21:28] <mint> i see 318021MB free space
[21:28] <Zeerover> Wow, when i got Links 2 i though i'd get more of a UI but i dont know how to search a page on it, so im going to read a tutorial
[21:28] <Zeerover> bye
[21:29] <Guest76280> speaking spanish
[21:29] <mint> should ive created a new parition table along side my windows one?
[21:29] <mint> im making these paritions under the same table as 3 windows partions
[21:29] <bekks> mint: You cant create multiple partition tables. :)
[21:30] <mint> derp
[21:30] <adee> bekks: Oracle released the new Unbreakable L. where it supports it... on big production servers
[21:30] <guntbert> !es | Guest76280
[21:30] <bekks> adee: THEY support it, no one else in the world does that without endangered by heavy firearms.
[21:30] <mint> so what the heck... is there any order which the partions need to be made in?
[21:31] <mint> all i did was create a primary boot partitons @ begining location with ext2
[21:31] <adee> bekks: I use it since Linux 3.4 on several systems and it survived USB-stick-root unplugs and resets many times....
[21:31] <mint> mount point set as /boot , and now cant create any more partitions
[21:31] <Boogeyman> ok, in xchat, the green ball next to the nick is ops, whats a red ball?
[21:32] <QubitSmuggler> admin
[21:32] <mint> anyone?
[21:32] <Boogeyman> thanks
[21:33] <QubitSmuggler> mint, how many partitions do you have?
[21:33] <mint> QubitSmuggler: 3 ntfs
[21:34] <adee> mint: how many primarys you have? 4?
[21:34] <zymaster> Hey guys I have a question that's a little off topic and really involves a network setup and not that much to do with ubuntu. So anyway I am going to get a couple public ips from my isp. I'm considering doing it this  way. I will have a line coming straight into my modem. My modem will have two outputs. One going into an ethernet switch, and one going into a wireless router. The wireless router will run my home network and will use
[21:34] <mint> AdedioR: i believe only 1 in windows
[21:34] <QubitSmuggler> mint you can only have 4 primary partitions
[21:34] <adee> mint: is it hard to use my name in a reply?
[21:35] <zymaster> The ethernet switch will then go into my servers. They will all be running ip tables as a firewall and have their own public ip. I am curious will this work? and will iptables provide a sufficient enough firewall for each server
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> mint:  look at fdisk -l output to be sure.
[21:35] <adee> mint: give us the exact partition numbers and types please....
[21:35] <alankila> zymaster: someone has to say this, so your first message was cut around the irc 500 character limits at 'wireless oruter will run my home network and will use'.
[21:35] <guntbert> zymaster: this is definitely the wrong channel - try ##networking  maybe?
[21:36] <mint> AdedioR: what do you mean numbers? the sizes?
[21:36] <mint> adee: what do you mean numbers? the sizes?
[21:36] <zymaster> ok thanks guntbert I always end up with questions that i cant figure out which channel to ask them in. (:
[21:36] <zymaster> channel ##networking
[21:36] <adee> mint: how many & primary/extended
[21:36] <QubitSmuggler> zymaster, pm
[21:37] <zymaster> forgot / ):
[21:37] <mint> adee: it doesnt show, i would have to look in windows i think
[21:37] <mint> adee: is there any way in terminal to check?
[21:37] <adee> mint: fdisk, cfdisk or some other partitioner should tell
[21:38] <adee> i'm sure that crappy Buguntu installer won't show that
[21:38] <andrewx> theres a command to paginate text: 'cat text | page' but its not called page, what is it?
[21:38] <romy420> mint: u may want to go one step back in the setup and choose the automatic install 'side by side' with windows
[21:38] <Dr_Willis> mint:  'fdisk -l'
[21:38] <klj613> is it possible to install skype via command line in a stable way? (put in a script for whenever i need it). google isn't being friendly atm
[21:39] <mint> romy420: i tried that last time, but it didnt let me specify the size of the partition...
[21:39] <guntbert> andrewx: less
[21:39] <zykotick9> zymaster: does /channel work?  i use /join or /j
[21:39] <andrewx> don't think so...
[21:39] <mint> Rommeras: it made a 300gb linux install
[21:39] <romy420> i see
[21:39] <baba_> hii
[21:39] <mint> Dr_Willis: im not in windows
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> andrewx:  you mean put a form feed every 80 lines?
[21:39] <andrewx> that slows me down to one-line-@-a-time
[21:39] <Dr_Willis> mint:  fdisk -l is NOT a windows command...
[21:39] <andrewx> that would be nice :)
[21:40] <DanielHoffman> does anybody know how to set up a username/password system in squid3?
[21:40] <mint> Dr_Willis: well it doesnt work in terminal
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> run it as root... sudo fdisk -l
[21:40] <zykotick9> andrewx: less or more?
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> pastebin the output..
[21:40] <TexNixk> insano : ffmpeg works fine for the older rm formats but does'nt seem to support the newer rmvb format
[21:40] <qwetna> strange issue with ubuntu and ssh...  I cant find a reason this is happening or a fix so I throw it out to you guys
[21:41] <xinbenlv> hello
[21:41] <andrewx> less, more both single-line you
[21:41] <xinbenlv> this is the first time
[21:41] <mint> Dr_Willis: http://pastebin.com/B95GiYiw
[21:41] <qwetna> i have loaded up 12.04 and now when I ssh from that box to an external unit the connection closes without even a key exchange
[21:41] <xinbenlv> i use irc
[21:41] <qwetna> any thoughts?
[21:41] <zymaster> zykotic it doesn't I just keep forgetting commands
[21:41] <beandog> qwetna: ssh -vvv
[21:41] <DanielHoffman> reinstall ssh?
[21:41] <insano> TexNixk, its OK
[21:41] <xinbenlv> hello
[21:41] <mongy> TexNixk, tried compiling latest?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095  easy peasy
[21:41] <TexNixk> i've found several references on mencoder being able to support rmvb ... but i'm not using mencoder
[21:42] <zykotick9> andrewx: but don't use cat unsecarity.. "less /path/to/file"
[21:42] <xinbenlv> qwetna: hey
[21:42] <qwetna> ok i got an output for the -vvv
[21:42] <qwetna> i assume you dont want it pasted in the window
[21:42] <zykotick9> !tab | zymaster
[21:42] <insano> TexNixk, where can I found it?
[21:42] <xinbenlv> exit
[21:42] <beandog> qwetna: no, look at it, should give you clues
[21:43] <jmrog> qwetna: You cant put it up on a pastebin, too.
[21:43] <jmrog> can
[21:44] <guntbert> andrewx: 'less' definetely doesn't "single line" you - it is the better 'more'
[21:44] <qwetna> pastebin: http://pastebin.com/kUPX2tbP
[21:44] <TexNixk> insano : just a sec ...
[21:45] <andrewx> I want da entire file! but screen-@-a-time
[21:45] <zykotick9> andrewx: s/unsecarity/unnecessarily/ sorry brain-fart
[21:45] <bekks> andrewx: press enter being in less.
[21:45] <andrewx> ugh.
[21:45] <zykotick9> andrewx: up down arrow in less!
[21:46] <bekks> andrewx: Then use space instead :)
[21:46] <andrewx> Can't a clever person make a script that would screen-inate a text file?
[21:46] <andrewx> anywho.. thanx
[21:46] <zymaster> Oh thanks ubottu
[21:47] <qwetna> nothing jumps out at me as partcularly wrong.... thoughts?
[21:48] <guntbert> andrewx: use pgdn/pgup in 'less'
[21:48] <beandog> qwetna: me neither.  could be dropbear dropping you for some reason, check the config options
[21:48] <andrewx> Ah...
[21:48] <insano> TexNixk, I got an example from a forum
[21:48] <andrewx> Thanks.
[21:48] <insano> It worked
[21:49] <insano> TexNixk, thanks a lot
[21:49] <jmrog> qwetna: You've connected via ssh prior to upgrading to 12.04?
[21:49] <qwetna> correct
[21:49] <qwetna> i was on 10.04 and it worked fine
[21:49] <jmrog> qwetna: How did you upgrade?
[21:49] <qwetna> a clean wipe
[21:49] <insano> But if you found something better let me know
[21:49] <mint> anyone know how to move the screen picture?  my desktop is cuttoff in the corner?
[21:49] <qwetna> so less upgrade and more reinstall
[21:49] <jmrog> qwetna: And how were you authenticating on the ssh server previously?
[21:49] <insano> TexNixk, But if you found something better let me know
[21:50] <TexNixk> insano : great ... hope all goes well from here
[21:50]  * NictraSavios thinks that when we have to ask "How did you upgrade", It means that someone should spend a few months making upgrade actually work...
[21:50] <insano> TexNixk, so do I
[21:50] <andrewx> yeah, perfect,lol.
[21:50] <jmrog> NictraSavios: No argument there!
[21:51] <zykotick9> NictraSavios: with a 6 month release cycle - that's impossible...
[21:51] <qwetna> username and password with standard key exchange
[21:51] <qwetna> nothing special
[21:52] <beandog> qwetna: whats the dropbear config look like on the server
[21:52] <qwetna> see thats the tricky part.. its a wireless device and not a configurable server so i dont know
[21:52] <beandog> ??
[21:52] <beandog> whose server is it?
[21:52] <beandog> do you have rights to admin it?
[21:53] <NictraSavios> zykotick9, Why not? We upgrade packages all the time. What exactly goes wrong with the big updates? Whatever the specific issue is should be fixed.
[21:53] <qwetna> it is a wimax device and i dont really have admin rights to it
[21:53] <zykotick9> NictraSavios: don't upgrade - problem solved...
[21:53] <beandog> oh so it's running as embedded
[21:53] <qwetna> correct
[21:53] <beandog> I dunno then
[21:53] <qwetna> its a radio on a chip
[21:53] <qwetna> with you
[21:53] <NictraSavios> zykotick9, Impossible for a modern operating system.
[21:53] <qwetna> unfortuantly they swear its not their device that is doing it
[21:54] <beandog> the server isn't giving much information on what's happening
[21:54] <zykotick9> NictraSavios: not all "modern" OSes have this issue
[21:54] <beandog> qwetna: you could try using dropbear's ssh client
[21:54] <NictraSavios> zykotick9, Because not all modern OS's are made by free software developers
[21:54] <NictraSavios> zykotick9, The ones that are usually face issues like this due to their small development teams.
[21:55] <zykotick9> NictraSavios: lol ubuntu isn't even close to free...  <OT> best of luck with your issue
[21:55] <davidgilmour> Hello, I've just added this line to the crontab. */5 * * * * "php /opt/bitnami/apps/wordpress/htdocs/checksales/index.php". However it seems the task is not running every 5 minutes at all. Any ideas?
[21:55] <beandog> not even close to free?  Sir, you are mistaken.
[21:55] <beandog> that or trolling.
[21:55] <guntbert> NictraSavios: back to support please :)
[21:55] <qwetna> works fine with putty on a RDP but we tend to use ssh to get into the networks because it is lightweight enough to work on a cell phone when you are mobile
[21:55] <qwetna> but thank you for your help
[21:55] <NictraSavios> zykotick9, Really? I downloaded it.. seemed free.  Pfft, good luck with al of your issues.
[21:55] <scisteffan> Hello, where would be the best place to ask about setting up nameservers and an email server on ubuntu?
[21:55] <NictraSavios> guntbert, Okay :D
[21:56] <beandog> qwetna: you gonna try dropbear?
[21:56] <qwetna> probably will yes
[21:56] <beandog> kk
[21:56] <beandog> good luck
[21:56] <beandog> try putty if that doesnt work
[21:56] <qwetna> dumb quetison but putty doesnt have a command line interface does it?
[21:57] <beandog> uh
[21:57] <beandog> don't remember
[21:57] <qwetna> if I can avoid a gui im going to
[21:57] <kyle__> scisteffan: Those are both fairly streightforward, no different than any other distro.  Are you just looking for a caching DNS server, one for your internal network, or one to serve as the primary dns for a domain?
[21:57] <qwetna> again thanks.  you gave me a starting point.
[21:57] <zykotick9> qwetna: are you using putty on a gnu/linux host?  if so - don't.
[21:57] <qwetna> zykotick9 no i'm not
[21:57] <qwetna> dont worry
[21:57] <zykotick9> qwetna: k
[21:57] <qwetna> trouble is command line ssh isnt working right now
[21:58] <taymaz> hi guys! :D
[21:58] <taymaz> I finally switched back again from Kubuntu
[21:58] <NictraSavios> qwetna, I may be able to help. I ssh into my home server everyday
[21:58] <taymaz> Just wanted to say Unity has so far not annoyed the f*ck out of me within 15min. Going strong! :D
[21:59] <NictraSavios> qwetna, Do you get any specific errors or have you modified the /etc/ssh/ssh.conf file?
[21:59] <qwetna> nictra check out this pastebin: http://pastebin.com/kUPX2tbP
[21:59] <scisteffan> kyle__ - a primary dns for a domain - steffanharris.co.uk
[21:59] <guntbert> !language | taymaz
[21:59] <qwetna> and no its a standard ssh config
[21:59] <jmrog> davidgilmour: Why is the command in quotes?
[21:59] <romy420> qwetna, maybe someone changed the pw? look here u should update dropbear after u manage to log in: http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/15923/discuss
[22:00] <kyle__> scisteffan: If you install bind, you can then follow any online tutorial for a public name server.  Doesn't have to be ubuntu specific.
[22:00] <kyle__> scisteffan: It's actually pretty easy.
[22:00] <qwetna> password did not change i know that
[22:00] <NictraSavios> qwetna, It dosen't actually look like your at fault. The server your connecting to isn't reply properly and its protocol seems to be outdated...
[22:00] <taymaz> sorry guntbert
[22:01] <davidgilmour> jmrog: I just deleted the quotes, going to try now
[22:01] <qwetna> the interaction doesnt even get past the key exchange... actually the key exchange doesnt even happen
[22:01] <NictraSavios> qwetna, How long as it been since you last connected to it? I noticed you said its the upgrade that made it it not work but... a lot of time has passed between 10.10 and 12.04
[22:01] <romy420> but it's a vulnerable dropbeear version, this was my first google search hit ... just sayin',
[22:01] <qwetna> true
[22:01] <qwetna> i just reinstalled 12.04 from a 10.04 lts server
[22:02] <qwetna> thats why there is a jump there
[22:02] <qwetna> i wanted to get on the latest LTS
[22:02] <qwetna> thats when it broke
[22:02] <jafer> Guys, I have a question about ubuntu
[22:02] <qwetna> is there any way to "backdate" the 12.04 ssh to make it compatible?
[22:02] <NictraSavios> qwetna, Oh I see now.. you upgraded the server and now connecting to it fails.
[22:02] <qwetna> yep you got it
[22:02] <jafer> I read a guide about installing java on http://www.googlehammer.com
[22:02] <jafer> and it's not working
[22:03] <NictraSavios> qwetna, Well that's not really a good idea as the upgrade's were made for a reason... usually security.
[22:03] <jafer> Any idea?
[22:03] <qwetna> i understand that
[22:03] <pearlbear> best place for giving info about how ubuntu works on specific hardware (desktop, laptop, etc.)? It seems scattered around the web.
[22:03] <qwetna> like i said though this is a wimax unit that i cannot update
[22:03] <uni4dfx> Is there something like an image that I could burn on a CD to execute a PXE boot?
[22:03] <qwetna> i can put in the feature request, but it will take a while for it go through so i need a stopgap til then
[22:03] <NictraSavios> qwetna, Why don't you just use the default ubuntu ssh server package?
[22:03] <qwetna> i am
[22:04] <romy420> qwetna: right
[22:04] <qwetna> i dont control the remote side
[22:04] <livingdaylight> hi, can someone help me with installing a ppa?
[22:04] <NictraSavios> qwetna, Well it seems the remote side is the problem, and not your side. Try contacting the hosts admin
[22:05] <qwetna> like i said i will but i need a stopgap til they fix it.  is there any way to make a 12.04 ssh client act like the 10.04 one did?
[22:06] <jafer> I read a guide about installing java on http://www.googlehammer.com
[22:06] <jafer> and it's not working
[22:06] <jafer> Any idea?
[22:06] <FloodBot1> jafer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:08] <livingdaylight> if sudo add-apt-repository ppa: package_name is the command line how do I adapt  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pinta-maintainers/pinta-stable/ubuntu precise main  to that command line?
[22:08] <NictraSavios> qwetna, Hmm... Ugh. I'm not going to go on hunches and bs even thought I have a few clues It's honestly over my head. I know its a problem with the keys but I really can't say any specifics
[22:08] <NictraSavios> qwetna, This is a shot in the dark... try installing the "hashalot" package.
[22:09] <qwetna> i may give it a whack.  thank you again.
[22:11]  * NictraSavios Heh Heh. SmellyCat :P
[22:12] <klj613> how to un-sudo? (sudo -s)
[22:12] <SmellyCat> Hi NictraSavios :)
[22:12] <davidgilmour> I still can't get my cronjob to work.. could it be a permission issue? As I have no root access
[22:12] <NictraSavios> klj613, exit
[22:12] <NictraSavios> klj613, the command, exit
[22:13] <klj613> lol
[22:13] <Murd0ck> off topic link?
[22:13] <klj613> thanks
[22:13] <r0tha> Is anyone familiar with how /dev/console works?
[22:13] <jmrog> davidgilmour: Does the job show up when you type crontab -l?
[22:13] <NictraSavios> r0tha, I am :D. F
[22:14] <davidgilmour> jmrog: yes
[22:14] <r0tha> NictraSavios: i'm working on some rsyslog stuff and i've noticed that /dev/console shows up in /var/log/rsyslog.conf
[22:14] <aaa801> How can i delete the unpartioned space in a full disk image
[22:14] <jmrog> davidgilmour: And can you run the command manually as your non-root user?
[22:14] <r0tha> not sure how it all works......care to explain?
[22:14] <SmellyCat> aaa801, delete as in overwrite (with zero's for example?)
[22:15] <aaa801> SmellyCat: delete as in get rid of, its a raw disk rip
[22:15] <r0tha> i'm just now trying to put all the pieces together.......normally i didn't worry about kernel versions but at this point they sound somewhat important
[22:15] <genii-around> aaa801: You can run partionint programs on a disk image the same as if it was the dis itself
[22:15] <davidgilmour> jmrog: yes, i'm over ssh and it works
[22:15] <genii-around> Bleh, typos. But you get the gist.
[22:15] <aaa801> genii-around: but would that let me get rid of the unpartioned data
[22:16] <NictraSavios> r0tha, Well, that means that whatever the output is refering to came from a virtual console as /dev/console is part of the virtual console system
[22:16] <davidgilmour> jmrog: this is the line: */5 * * * * php /opt/bitnami/apps/wordpress/htdocs/checksales/index.php
[22:17] <NictraSavios> r0tha, It is, simply, the 'terminal'. The current, open terminal.
[22:17] <r0tha> 64 virtual consoles..
[22:17] <genii-around> aaa801: I can run for instance: sudo fdisk diskimage.img      and then delete partitons in that image, make new partitions, etc. So  the answer is yes.
[22:17] <aaa801> genii-around: il give it a go
[22:18] <jmrog> davidgilmour: Maybe try putting the command with its argument into a script and then executing the script as a cronjob?
[22:18] <jmrog> davidgilmour: Just to eliminate the space after 'php'
[22:18] <davidgilmour> jmrog: hmm... will try a sh script
[22:18] <meLon> What is the recommended method of providing dual-head support to Ubuntu?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/885989
[22:20] <CyberGabber> hmm, installatiedatum terugvinden zou kunnen kloppen via: ls -al /var/log/installer/syslog
[22:20] <SmellyCat> davidgilmour, it shouldn't be necessary to place that command in a script. The command runs fine from the command line I presume?
[22:20] <jmrog> davidgilmour: If that doesn't work, you might try supplying the full path for php. Everything else about the crontab looks right
[22:22] <Nakkel> How do I get HP un2400 (Gobi 1000) WWAN modem to work on 12.04? dmesg shows that drivers are loaded and the device attaches to /dev/ttyUSB0 but after few seconds it disconnects the device and just dissapears from the system.
[22:22] <ThePendulum> He
[22:22] <ThePendulum> *Hey
[22:22] <ThePendulum> I hid the program shutter, but how do I get it back up?
[22:22] <usr13> davidgilmour: What is the command?
[22:22] <jmrog> davidgilmour: I'm also assuming that you've verified that cron is actually running on the system...? :)
[22:23] <aaa801> genii-around: theres no option in fdisk to delete unpartioned data
[22:23] <usr13> davidgilmour: You know you can test cronjobs.  Right?
[22:24] <ThePendulum> davidgilmour: I love you already
[22:24] <usr13> davidgilmour: Never mind, I see it.
[22:25] <DanielHoffman> does anybody know how to log into squid that is using NCSA? (any login system would work but i have a NCSA already set up)?
[22:25] <genii-around> aaa801: Your original question was: How can i delete the unpartioned space in a full disk image    ... so then the question becomes: Did you want to make the unpartitioned space part of another adjacent partition which does contain data? Or are you looking at some other thing like removing that partition from the image somehow and making the file smaller?
[22:26] <white_magic> anyone know how I can successfully install [Python IDE] IDLE version 3.2 under Ubuntu 10.04?
[22:26] <aaa801> the latter
[22:26] <ThePendulum> Does anyone know how to unhide Shutter, I'd like to reconfigurei t
[22:26] <ThePendulum> *reconfigure it
[22:26] <halo> how to set the brightness of ubuntu 12.04 to a fixed value
[22:26] <halo> ?
[22:28] <genii-around> aaa801: Thats a bit trickier then.
[22:28] <bz> enough of this
[22:29] <aaa801> genii-around: is there a way =/
[22:30] <SmellyCat> aaa801, Is the unpartitioned space at the end of the disk-image?
[22:30] <aaa801> yes
[22:30] <genii-around> aaa801: There may be. Since there is a way to know the offset within the file in order to mount one of the internal partitions as this page shows: http://madduck.net/blog/2006.10.20:loop-mounting-partitions-from-a-disk-image/
[22:31] <DanielHoffman> how would i configure a login system in ubuntu?
[22:31] <DanielHoffman> with squid3
[22:31] <SmellyCat> aaa801, Using 'dd' you could write the part that contains data to an other image. The tricky part is to find the exact position where the last partition ends
[22:32] <SmellyCat> aaa801, Don't know for sure but maybe dd-ing the first 512 bytes plus each partition separately (in order) to the same (new image-) file would work.
[22:34] <jmrog> davidgilmour: Any luck?
[22:34] <mint> what is ideal swap size for 4gb?
[22:35] <halo> 4 gb ram doesn't need swap
[22:35] <jmrog> mint: Unless you're planning to hibernate
[22:35] <scisteffan> kyle__ - thanks, I've got that set up already. How do I go about receiving mail on my domain name?
[22:35] <klj613> some reason i made swap for 8GB ram size... cant remember why. maybe just incase :p lol
[22:36] <romy420> mint: something around 6gb
[22:36] <halo> then delete it
[22:36] <mint> jmrog: someone was telling me 256mb for 4gb, said it will force more things to run in ram and give faster performance
[22:36] <mint> 6gb swap!
[22:36] <mint> wowzer
[22:36] <SmellyCat> mint, halo, I think 4Gb needs swap if you want to enable hibernate
[22:36] <scisteffan> kyle__ -  do I need postfix, which ports would require forwarding?
[22:36] <halo> yeah but 6 gb swap is too much
[22:36] <cjz> :( i screwed up my /etc/sudoers file so now i cant sudo to fix it
[22:36] <klj613> if ram is free. does it still use swap and make it slow? or only use swap when required?
[22:36] <adee> mint: do you need hibernate?
[22:36] <jmrog> mint Never heard that before. But as SmellyCat and I mentioned, you do need swap if you want to hibernate
[22:36] <romy420> ram* 1.5 i think is approbriate yes
[22:37] <NictraSavios> mint, Well the traditional rule is swap = ram. In truth, You do not need that much. The kernel will compress your image down to very little
[22:37] <jmrog> romy420: That rule is not applicable to larger RAM sizes.
[22:37] <mint> i dont use hibernate, i do use suspend
[22:37] <romy420> there are programs that can fill my 12gb all by themselves
[22:37] <jmrog> romy420: Those programs must have bugs
[22:37] <NictraSavios> mint, Check your system monitor while your system is idle. That number times 2 should be more than enough.
[22:38] <NictraSavios> mint, well if you don't hibernate, you don't need swap. at all.
[22:38] <jmrog> romy420: Unless you are doing something extremely, extremely out of the ordinary
[22:38] <scisteffan> nvm, found a good tutorial for that..
[22:38] <NictraSavios> mint, What he said &
[22:38] <NictraSavios> ^*
[22:39] <mint> nick_h: i heard if you run out of ram it will crash your system with no swap
[22:39] <NictraSavios> mint, You heard wrong.
[22:39] <romy420> ok, depends ... but why would u not want to hibernate?
[22:39] <NictraSavios> mint, It will just slow down.
[22:39] <NictraSavios> romy420 Because suspending is 5 times faster...
[22:39] <codingman> ^
[22:39] <codingman> I never use hibernate
[22:40] <mint> honestly, i dont even know how to hibernate lol
[22:40] <NictraSavios> Hibernation is just a reboot without post for all its worth.
[22:40] <codingman> then forget about it :p
[22:40] <grendal> ok i found a package for s3fs (amazon s3 buckets)  but it is only for luscid..
[22:40] <grendal>  im using 12.04  is it ok to add this ppa to my source files?
[22:40] <mint> f'it we'll do it live!
[22:40] <NictraSavios> grendal, It won't work :P
[22:40] <romy420> i would test .. if it will ever work with an encrypted root :)
[22:40] <jmrog> mint: lol
[22:40] <NictraSavios> mint, EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY!
[22:40] <mint> lol
[22:41] <NictraSavios> mint,  RICHARD STALMAN VERUUUS LIINUX TORRVALDS! Begin!
[22:41] <NictraSavios> Linus*
[22:41] <mint> lol
[22:41] <genii-around> !ot | NictraSavios
[22:41] <grendal> NictraSavios, not a very nice way to stat a conversation
[22:41] <NictraSavios> genii-around, Sorry... I get carried away.
[22:41] <genii-around> NictraSavios: np
[22:42] <NictraSavios> grendal, Huh? What do you mean. Adding a repo with only package for luicd will give you a 404 when you update your package database
[22:42] <mint> so i guess i'm just going with a / partition and /home
[22:42] <vicium\a> Doesn't ' useradd NAME -p PASSWORD -m cut it?
[22:43] <NictraSavios> vicium\a, If you don't want access to anything and your fine with no home directory... sure.
[22:43] <grendal> NictraSavios, what if i just download the package directly and install it
[22:43] <jmrog> NictraSavios: -m creates the home directory, doesn't it?
[22:43] <vicium\a> Hmm.. My intention is to create a user for myselves so I dont sit in root all the time..
[22:43] <vicium\a> Just bought a VPS for educational purposes
[22:44] <NictraSavios> grendal, Then you will probably have dependency problems and it won't install... Why don't you look at why the software isn't available for precise. There is probably a better alternative
[22:44] <vicium\a> aha adduser was much better
[22:44] <vicium\a> guided and all that..
[22:44] <jmrog> vicium\a: useradd -m -p PASSWORD USERNAME should be fine, afaik
[22:44] <NictraSavios> vicium\a, Oh, sorry. Missed that.
[22:44] <grendal> NictraSavios, ive tried that
[22:44] <vicium\a> Aha, i formatted it wrong then, thanks
[22:44] <jmrog> vicium\a: Problem might've been that you put the username before the options
[22:44] <davidgilmour> jmrog: yes cron is running
[22:44] <vicium\a> Yeah
[22:44] <grendal> i mean..i find it rather strange
[22:44] <vicium\a> I did :/
[22:44] <NictraSavios> vicium\a, But... you should probably add a few groups.
[22:45] <NictraSavios> grendal, What is the software in question and why do you want it?
[22:45] <jmrog> davidgilmour: No luck supplying the full path for php or putting it in a script?
[22:45] <KLtourist> Hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu on Zenbook but it failed!!!
[22:45] <jmrog> e.g. */5 * * * * /usr/bin/php /path/to/script
[22:46] <grendal> i have a machine running on ec2  and a s3 bucket and i want to mount the s3 bucket
[22:46] <vicium\a> Hmm I also have another problem I didnt have this the last time.. I downloaded murmur ( a voice communication server software ) and it refuses to run, i think it wants to run via a gui or something.. I get a shiiiitload of gdk_screen errors and a Segmentation Fault at the end...
[22:46] <grendal> its a 1204 server..
[22:46] <mint> should the / and /home be logical or primary partitions?
[22:46] <KLtourist> it easily cannot install the Grub on SSD
[22:46] <grendal> there is a fuse app you can download and complile..i was just hoping for a packed option if i could find one
[22:46] <jmrog> mint: Depends, do you have and/or plan to have additional partitions? Drives can only have 4 primary partitions maximum.
[22:46] <NictraSavios> grendal, Your probably going to have to compile it then
[22:46] <vicium\a> If anyone has a spare moment, this is the error i get ' http://paste.ubuntu.com/1114633/ '
[22:47] <vicium\a> (when trying to run the executable script)
[22:47] <mint> jm: i might install win 7/8 later on
[22:47] <davidgilmour> jmlog: nope.. i just added a "> cronlog.log" at the end of the script.. that's the only way I know to test if the cron is actually working
[22:47] <NictraSavios> vicium\a, Yeah, its looking for a screen
[22:47] <vicium\a> Is there a launch option to.. force it to not?
[22:47] <jmrog> davidgilmour: Same here, that's how I'd test it.
[22:47] <NictraSavios> vicium\a, check th manual
[22:47] <NictraSavios> the*
[22:47] <vicium\a> Will do!
[22:47] <davidgilmour> the script works fine running it from ssh
[22:47] <vicium\a> But the FAQ for installing it said it was just to apt-get and run it, wrong! :)
[22:48] <NictraSavios> vicium\a, :P Bad documentation aha
[22:48] <vicium\a> 'However, on distributions with prepackaged Murmur (Debian/Ubuntu), Murmur is configured to run as a system service, just like your webserver, mailserver and whatever else you have running. This "global" installation is a ready, turn-key solution' pff!
[22:48] <vicium\a> But maybe i'm missing some obvious common libraries since its a fresh VPN install...
[22:49]  * NictraSavios Thinks that bad documentation writers should be punished like thieves in the old world. Cut off their hands at the wrists.
[22:49] <NictraSavios> vicium\a, I have no idea then. all I know it what the error means :P
[22:49] <genii-around> !info murmur
[22:49] <genii-around> Hm
[22:50] <NictraSavios> Oo... its a gtk client for the mussekd deamon... not a voice server...
[22:50] <vicium\a> Oh
[22:50] <vicium\a> I have the wrong package..
[22:50] <vicium\a> murmur-server not murmur...!
[22:50] <NictraSavios> :D
[22:51] <vicium\a> I think..
[22:51] <vicium\a> !info mumble-server
[22:51] <agentgasmask> Hi all. I'm trying to install all the same packages on a new system as on my old system. I seem to remember there being some relationship between dpkg --get-selections and apt-get (dselect-upgrade?) or something. Any hints?
[22:51] <vicium\a> There we go..
[22:52] <jmrog> agentgasmask: What you're looking for is dpkg --get-selections on one system and dpkg --set-selections on the other
[22:52] <agentgasmask> jmrog: Ok. and running dpkg --set-selections will download/install the packages, or do I then just run apt-get something-or-other?
[22:53] <vicium\a> How long should it take for a DNS to update?
[22:53] <vicium\a> Changed my domain from my own ip to the servers
[22:53] <jmrog> agentgasmask: dpkg --get-selections will tell you what's installed/etc. on the old system. You can put that into a file, then read the file into dpgk --set-selections
[22:53] <jmrog> agentgasmask: After that, you can run apt-get dselect-upgrade
[22:54] <Malcolm2608_> Could some one help me figure out why my keyboard is not detected in ubuntu linux or any ubuntu based distro
[22:54] <jmrog> agentgasmask: The last two commands would be on the new system
[22:54] <saleh> i cannot install the ubuntu on Asus Zenbook. it cannot install Grub on SSD. should i change anything in BIOS or what???
[22:55] <agentgasmask> jmrog: OK, great. :) thank you.
[22:55] <Nakkel> How do I get HP un2400 (Gobi 1000) WWAN modem to work on 12.04? dmesg shows that drivers are loaded and the device attaches to /dev/ttyUSB0 but after few seconds it disconnects the device and just dissapears from the system.
[22:56] <Malcolm2608_> I have two keyboard , one of them works and the other one dosen't
[22:56] <Malcolm2608_> its kinad weird  lol
[22:56] <Malcolm2608_> kinda
[22:56] <jmrog> agentgasmask: No problem, good luck
[22:56] <agentgasmask> jmrog++
[22:56] <jmrog> :)
[22:56] <genii-around> Malcolm2608_: Does it have some funky adapter like ps2->usb ?
[22:57] <Malcolm2608_> nope
[22:57] <Malcolm2608_> just as normal usb 2.0
[22:57] <saleh> i cannot install the ubuntu on Asus Zenbook. it cannot install Grub on SSD and it opens the window "bootleader install failed". should i change anything in BIOS or what???
[22:57] <QubitSmuggler> spill beer on one malcom?
[22:57] <vicium\a> Is there an easy way to 'speedtest' your connection up/downstreams in ubuntu?
[22:57] <Malcolm2608_> lol no , the keyboard works
[22:58] <vicium\a> Without using the a webbrowser
[22:58] <agentgasmask> saleh: Perhaps that is that new window locked bootloader thing? I've only hear roumors about it.
[22:58] <Malcolm2608_> they kbaord works in windows
[22:58] <Malcolm2608_> and i think in  puppy linux
[22:58] <Malcolm2608_> its just ubuntu and ubuntu based distros
[22:58] <Malcolm2608_> the lights and stuff show up on it , but none of the buttons do anything
[22:59] <saleh> agentgasmask: i removed my windows
[22:59] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: if you have two hosts you could see the speed between them with a simple nc and speedometer setup.
[23:00] <saleh> i cannot install the ubuntu on Asus Zenbook. it cannot install Grub on SSD and it opens the window "bootleader install failed". should i change anything in BIOS or what???
[23:00] <Malcolm2608_> the keyboard is new
[23:01] <Malcolm2608_> and im using xchat so i have no idea how to pm
[23:01] <agentgasmask> saleh: Yeah, I seem to remember something about windows getting harware OEMs to lock the motherboard to the windows bootloader. Anyone else know more about this? Conferm/denie?
[23:01] <vicium\a> I dont agentgasmask :/
[23:01] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: hmmm... Let me think... there has to be a way.
[23:02] <jmrog> agentgasmask: That's unlikely to be the issue. The thing you're talking about with locked bootloaders is part of Windows 8 certification, and Windows 8 isn't released yet
[23:02] <saleh> agentgasmask: if anything, i guess it should be the default BIOS setting. let me check sth...
[23:02] <agentgasmask> Thanks guys.
[23:03] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: check this out: wget --output-document=/dev/null http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test500.zip
[23:04] <vicium\a> Is the zip file an actual file or am I supposed to monitor the speed? :P
[23:04] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: I just did a google search for: test internet connection speed commandline linux
[23:05] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: It should be a real file. it's "saving" it to /dev/null (wich is just throwing it away.) but wget should tell you the download speed.
[23:05] <vicium\a> Yeah, upload to go then!
[23:06] <vicium\a> Thanks I guess but isnt that speed also very varied depending on server location etc?
[23:06] <vicium\a> Ahwell ill google for some more resources
[23:06] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: yes, but that's a factor if you use the webbrowser based version too.
[23:06] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: Ok. Good luck. :)
[23:07] <vicium\a> But that version usually check your location and sends you to the closest server ( i think ) thanks :)
[23:07] <DWSR> What´s the Java package called?
[23:07] <DWSR> !java
[23:08] <vicium\a> jde/jke afaik
[23:09] <agentgasmask> vicium\a: true.
[23:09] <disposable> if i run 'apt-get source kernel-image-3.2.0-6-generic', does the unpacked kernel source already have ubuntu patches in or do i need to apply the diff manually?
[23:11] <jmrog> saleh: Can you run parted on your drive?
[23:11] <saleh> jmorg: i cannot install ubuntu, how can i run gparted or parted?
[23:12] <jmrog> saleh: LiveCD
[23:12] <vicium\a> agentgasmask: Yeah heh, 3.5 mbs using one of them 11mb/s using wget -O/dev/null speedtest.pixelwolf.ch :D
[23:12] <ghs> a software engineer ?
[23:12] <vicium\a> Wish I could emulate a GUI on my home desktop from my VPN
[23:12] <saleh> jmorg: smart try :) let me try that...
[23:13] <romy420> disposable: it's patched up to version 3.2.0-6 ... the last updates that came for 12.04 installed 3.2.0-27 automatically
[23:13] <vicium\a> And infact, just read pixelwolf capped at 100 mbit, so cant really see if my promised 1gbit works.. :(
[23:13] <jmrog> saleh: If you can do it, when you run parted on the ssd, can you print the partition table and tell me what kind of partition table it has? Curious about something.
[23:13] <vicium\a> Although HDD probably fails at some point
[23:15] <saleh> jmorg: it has 32SSD+500 of HDD . i wanna install root on SSD and home on 500GB
[23:15] <horacio> Hi
[23:15] <jmrog> saleh: Can you run parted on the SSD and print the partition table?
[23:16] <StoneCypher> what is the preferred way of upgrading mysql to 5.6?  googling gives a whole bunch of pretty seriously different answers.
[23:16] <saleh> jmorg: am using my PC to connect to XCHAT. i'm doing it on my laptop. plus, i'm trying to change the BIOS setting to get my things done
[23:17] <vicium\a> Do I need to add any specific flags to search for a file/folder named 'murmur' ? I'm sitting at root@server:/# trying find murmur
[23:17] <jmrog> saleh: Okay. What I'm trying to do is determine whether your drive is using GPT instead of MBR. If you run parted on the drive, and then type 'print', it will have a line that says "Partition table:" and afterward it will list the type
[23:17] <vicium\a> Like to search subdirectories etc
[23:17] <jmrog> saleh: Just want to check and make sure it doesn't list 'gpt'
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> vicium\a:  locate uses a database.   'locate filename' but the database is only updated like on ce a day
[23:18] <saleh> jmorg: ok. Thanks. just w8...
[23:19] <disposable> romy420: thanks
[23:19] <jmrog> vicium\a: I'd do something like: find / -iname 'murmur'
[23:19] <DFrostedWang> This may not be the place to ask this, but I need a way to view folders on my Android phone that are on my computer on my wifi network.
[23:19] <romy420> :) have fun
[23:19] <StoneCypher> vicium\a: updatedb
[23:20] <DFrostedWang> Unless anyone can suggest a better way to get my porn on my phone without a microSD card
[23:20] <vicium\a> Thanks, all of you
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> DFrostedWang:  thers tools for android that let you browse it in a browser,  with a nice file manager.
[23:20] <StoneCypher> after that it'll work as expected
[23:20] <DFrostedWang> I know, but I want something simpler
[23:20] <usr13> Dr_Willis: DFrostedWang FileEpert
[23:20] <DFrostedWang> I have that
[23:21] <DFrostedWang> It isn't very good for this
[23:21] <usr13> DFrostedWang: What do you need?
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> DFrostedWang:   your details are a bit confuseing.. so we dont know what you need..
[23:21] <DFrostedWang> I have a rooted phone, perhaps I could mount my porn partition like it was on my phone?
[23:21] <usr13> DFrostedWang: There's bluetooth
[23:21] <DFrostedWang> Bluetooth is slow
[23:21] <StoneCypher> any love for the actual ubuntu question :/
[23:21] <usr13> DFrostedWang: We are not interested in helping you get porn, so never mind.
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> theres ssh and ftp and other stuff for android. and samba
[23:22] <DFrostedWang> I already have the porn
[23:22] <usr13> StoneCypher: Yes
[23:22] <kion> is there any software in Ubuntu to create videos from pictures?
[23:22] <DFrostedWang> Yes
[23:22] <DFrostedWang> Lots of software for that
[23:22] <usr13> DFrostedWang: We are fully aware of that.  Thanks anyway
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> kion:  ffmpeg. or mencoder can take lots of imagtes and put them into a movie
[23:22] <StoneCypher> usr13: ... like?
[23:22] <StoneCypher> Dr_Willis, DFrostedWang: please take it to #android
[23:22] <kion> Dr_Willis: is that intalled in Ubuntu by default?
[23:22] <usr13> StoneCypher: Sorry, just agreeing with you.
[23:22] <DFrostedWang> Oh yeah, I also need help finding a way to make thumbnails from a video.
[23:23] <l3d> was wondering how I would change the theme to all black background for everything even things run as root like I used to in the great 10.10 and below ( why fix something that wasnt broke)
[23:23] <StoneCypher> usr13: no, i was asking people to look into the question that DFrostedWang was spamming out of channel
[23:23] <usr13> DFrostedWang: /join #android
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> kion:  i doubt it.. they are in the repos
[23:23] <DFrostedWang> I'm already thee
[23:23] <DFrostedWang> there*
[23:23] <DFrostedWang> But what about my thumbnailing question?
[23:23] <saleh> jmorg: (parted) /dev/sr0: unrecognised disk label
[23:23] <usr13> DFrostedWang: Good.  Come back when you have question about Ubuntu.
[23:24] <DFrostedWang> I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT UBUNTU!
[23:24] <DFrostedWang> I just said that...
[23:24] <davidgilmour> jmrog: still there?
[23:24] <usr13> DFrostedWang: What is your question?
[23:24] <StoneCypher> [19:16] <StoneCypher> what is the preferred way of upgrading mysql to 5.6?  googling gives a whole bunch of pretty seriously different answers.
[23:24] <kion> Dr_Willis:  Thanks I just did sudo apt-get install libav-tools
[23:24] <DFrostedWang> I need help finding a way to make thumbnails from a video.
[23:24] <saleh> jmorg: (parted) print
[23:24] <StoneCypher> usr13: could i get some help please, this guy just wants attention
[23:24] <jmrog> davidgilmour: yes
[23:24] <saleh> jmorg: Error: /dev/sr0: unrecognised disk label
[23:25] <mrdn>  DFrostedWang: the rule on #ubuntu is that you get only answers from people that are incapable of solving your real problem. like me.
[23:25] <jmrog> saleh: Are you sure that /dev/sr0 is your hard drive?
[23:25] <DFrostedWang> This is why I stopped using Ubuntu... Bad support. I came here with two questions and neither got answered.
[23:25] <jmrog> saleh: I mean the ssd
[23:26] <usr13> DFrostedWang: In other words, we do not know how to make thumbnails from a video.  Any other questions?
[23:26] <vicium\a> This is free support?
[23:26] <[deXter]> He already left. >_>
[23:26] <vicium\a> I found ubuntu support to be enormous, previously aswell
[23:26] <vicium\a> ah
[23:26] <genii-around> DFrostedWang: Convert to mjpeg , as described here: http://blog.prashanthellina.com/2008/03/29/creating-video-thumbnails-using-ffmpeg/
[23:26] <StoneCypher> vicium\a: only if the problem is trivial and has nothing to do with ubuntu
[23:26] <genii-around> Bleh, they are always so impatient
[23:26] <davidgilmour> jmrog the cron seems to be running, but I get a zero bytes file.. now I'm really confused
[23:26] <vicium\a> Yeah.. I've gotten help here throughout the years with very basic stuff, always someone to help me atleast
[23:27] <StoneCypher> lucky you.
[23:27] <usr13> vicium\a: Sure, when you have a real issue, there is always someone that can solve it.
[23:27] <davidgilmour> oh no, someone is trolling
[23:28] <davidgilmour> (grabbing popcorn)
[23:28] <vicium\a> Whats trolling?
[23:28] <QubitSmuggler> lol
[23:28] <vicium\a> Fishing?
[23:28] <StoneCypher> vicium\a: what people who want attention say
[23:28]  * QubitSmuggler steals some popcorn from davidgilmour
[23:28] <StoneCypher> vicium\a: ignore whoever said that; they're just trying to create a fight
[23:29] <saleh> jmorg: i've turned off the "Intel virtualization technology" in bios. let me turn it on again...
[23:29] <bazhang> lets get back to support please
[23:29] <StoneCypher> bazhang: taht'd be great.  mind telling me the appropriate approach to upgrading mysql past the 2008 5.1 that's in apt?
[23:29] <romy420> StoneCypher maybe ppl at #mysql can answer your question
[23:29] <vicium\a> So when will I be able to simulate a GUI to my desktop from my vpn? :)
[23:30] <StoneCypher> romy420: no, they cannot help me with ubuntu's package manager.
[23:30] <Thunder7102> hey guys.  I deleted the partition Ubuntu was in (I was trying to fix a ton of logical partitions) and now grub is not loading properly
[23:30] <Thunder7102> I'm in grub rescue
[23:30] <romy420> ok, that's true
[23:30] <bazhang> StoneCypher, what version of ubuntu are you using currently please
[23:30] <Thunder7102> is there a way to boot into other partitions?
[23:31] <StoneCypher> bazhang: i just upgraded to 12.04 lts i believe
[23:31] <usr13> Thunder7102: If you deleted the Ubuntu partition, you'll have to re-install
[23:31] <Thunder7102> usr13: Is there a way I can use grub rescue to boot into another partition so i can burn the cd?
[23:31] <jmrog> StoneCypher: You're saying that you have the version of mysql that is in Ubuntu's repositories, and you want to know how to upgrade beyond it?
[23:31] <OerHeks> StoneCypher, then you would see mysql-server 5.5.24-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:31] <m1chael> does anyone have any information regarding the streaming of skype calls to icecast2?
[23:31] <hmida> hi
[23:31] <usr13> Thunder7102: Yes, but only if you have a bootable OS on another partition.
[23:32] <Thunder7102> usr13: I do.
[23:32] <usr13> Thunder7102: Then by all means boot it.
[23:32] <StoneCypher> OerHeks: unless i was too stupid to get it right.  sudo apt-get upgrade mysql-server says there's nothing to upgrade.
[23:32] <Thunder7102> The first usable partition other than the MBR should be it. What command should I use in grub rescue usr13?
[23:33] <usr13> !grub | Thunder7102
[23:33] <StoneCypher> jmrog: to be clear, "maybe."  the internet says it's supposed to be 5.5; i don't seem to be able to get past 5.1.  5.5 would be fine.
[23:33] <ThePendulum> Any ideas how to unhide shutter?
[23:33] <StoneCypher> jmrog: more likely, PEBKAC.
[23:34] <bazhang> StoneCypher, the version for 12.04 is 5.5.22
[23:34] <jmrog> StoneCypher: apt-get upgrade doesn't take package names as arguments
[23:34] <jmrog> StoneCypher: What happens if you try apt-get install mysql-server
[23:35] <StoneCypher> mysql-server is already the newest version.\n0 upgraded, ...
[23:36] <jmrog> StoneCypher: What version number shows when you type apt-cache show mysql-server
[23:36] <StoneCypher> 5.1.63-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:36] <StoneCypher> mysql console says 5.1, so that seems like an agreement
[23:37] <jmrog> StoneCypher: Okay, you must not be getting the correct repos. You said you're on Ubuntu 12.04? Have you issued apt-get update first? And what are the repos in your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[23:37] <Magic-Fx> Hi all - How do I edit the screensaver settings in 12.04? :)
[23:37] <bazhang> StoneCypher, whats the output from lsb_release -a in terminal
[23:37] <StoneCypher> i did apt-get update.  checking sources list
[23:38] <StoneCypher> oh, it says 11.10 oneiric ocelot at the top of the sources list.
[23:38] <StoneCypher> wtf, and lsb_release -a says 11.10
[23:38] <StoneCypher> i just did the 12.04 update, what the hell
[23:38] <usr13> StoneCypher: What command did you use?
[23:38] <jmrog> StoneCypher: Hm...   What is the command to boot to a certain partition via grub rescue?
[23:40] <saleh> jmorg: even "Disk Usage Analyser" shows there is only one disk of 5.1GB . that's silly!!!
[23:40] <StoneCypher> OerHeks: if you think i'm not an idiot, you don't yet know me well enough.
[23:40] <jmrog> davidgilmour: Don't have much more to say about your problem, sorry. If cron is working but outputting a zero byte file, it could be a problem with the php script
[23:41] <saleh> jmorg: thanks anyway :) love this supportive channel...
[23:42] <jmrog> saleh: Something has come up for me and I unfortunately have to run, sorry. Good luck with your problem
[23:42] <Myr|Away> Anyone know what the problem could be with this wubi installation? It is only showing 2gb out of 4, its 10.10
[23:42] <davidgilmour> we're all idiots
[23:43] <Thunder7102> i need to boot my Windows 7 partition from grub rescue to burn a CD. :P
[23:43] <QubitSmuggler> there are 2 kinds of people in the world, idiots and jerks, if you are not one you are the other
[23:43] <genii-around> Myr: If it's a 32 bit install, you may need a PAE kernel
[23:43] <jeffrey> can anyone help me?  my monitor picture is not properly aligned, the bottom and the right of the screen are clipped off and auto adjust on the monitor doesnt work.  the monitor is also detected as a laptop screen in the display settings even though its a desktop
[23:43] <genii-around> !pae | Myr
[23:43] <davidgilmour> it's hard to tell which one i'd prefer to be
[23:44] <bazhang> !ot | davidgilmour
[23:44] <Myr> 2 != 3.2 :(
[23:44] <ThePendulum> Does anyone know how to 'unhide' Shutter? It's running but I can't find it
[23:44] <bazhang> Myr, get a supported version, 10.10 is already end of support life
[23:45] <genii-around> bazhang: Well, that too! ;-)
[23:45] <vicium\a> So I can actually install ubuntu-desktop & a vnc server on a VPS and acess it via a GUI? :o
[23:45] <m477> is it possible to monitor somehow how much energy consume display in notebook?
[23:46] <davidgilmour> !ot | QubitSmuggler
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> vicium\a:  you can. or use ssh and x forwarding.
[23:47] <saori> hello
[23:47] <vicium\a> !xforwarding
[23:47] <saori> I want to record my sound output to an mp3 wav or flac, can I do that?
[23:47] <QubitSmuggler> use the sound recorder
[23:47] <exutux> so if x forward is enabled on VPS server
[23:47] <Dr_Willis> ThePendulum:  if its an older app that has a minimize to the systray type feature it may be minimized there. and thus hidden. You should be able to rerun shutter and have it reappear..
[23:48] <exutux> vicium\a: so if x forward is enabled on VPS server
[23:48] <ThePendulum> Dr_Willis: I don't think it's outdated much. Also, there's nothing in the tray because I disabled that lol
[23:48] <vicium\a> But x forwarding can only access a specific X 'app at one time or?
[23:48] <vicium\a> Not the 'entire dekstop' so tospeak
[23:48] <exutux> and for vnc if your costumer permit forward for 5900 port
[23:48] <exutux> vicium\a: correct
[23:48] <vicium\a> I can just change the port otherwise yeah? :P
[23:48] <jeffrey> so is it possible to adjust the screen position?
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> ThePendulum:  no idea then
[23:49] <exutux> it's only for open GUI apps in your local desktop
[23:49] <vicium\a> Thanks, I'll check both of theese out, x forwarding seems useful since i use putty all the time
[23:49] <m477> anyone?
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> vicium\a:  you need a x server running on the local box also
[23:49] <exutux> vicium\a: for vnc or remote desktop them port must be natted on router where VPS is
[23:49] <ThePendulum> Dr_Willis: Alright, thanks none the less
[23:50] <vicium\a> Um... you lost me exutux.. :P
[23:50] <okahsdasd> is it just me or has this version of ubuntu had the most updates so far... ?
[23:50] <vicium\a> Dr_Willis: I'm using win7, does that break it? :P
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> vicium\a:  stick to SSH and X forwarding then
[23:50] <vicium\a> okay
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> vicium\a:  you need an X server for windows. Like Xming
[23:51] <exutux> check if x forward for ssh is enabled on VPS server
[23:51] <genii-around> m477: So you want your battery monitor to break down what is using how much, etc?
[23:52] <romy420> m477, you can use 'powertop' (probably will have to install it from repo first)
[23:52] <exutux> otherwise xforward doesn't run
[23:52] <romy420> it gives u an estimation
[23:53] <exutux> estimation about process that use more battery
[23:53] <vicium\a> exutux: Is there an easy way to check it? I'm installing xming atm, looking at help.ubuntu documentaiton about it, it sounds like i need to setup the connection to attempt it
[23:54] <exutux> vicium\a: if you have root permission and not limited you can look in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[23:54] <vicium\a> Okay, will do
[23:54] <exutux> /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:54] <exutux> and you have to restart ssh
[23:54] <vicium\a> sadface
[23:54] <vicium\a> -bash: /etc/ssh/sshd_config: Permission denied
[23:54] <exutux> if you modify it
[23:55] <exutux> vicium\a: well
[23:55] <exutux> you're account is limited
[23:55] <exutux> ask to costumer then
[23:55] <vicium\a> Will do!
[23:56] <vicium\a> On an entirely diferent matter, how well does Win7 run on ubuntu (using VMware) if you have the horsepower for it?
[23:57] <jeffrey> nobody knows how to adjust the screen position?
[23:57] <osmosis> can I get the cinnamon window manager for ubuntu?
[23:57] <ThePendulum> jeffrey: In Ubuntu 12.04?
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> xvidtune (for old school way jeffrey ) or the xrandr tools perhaps
[23:57] <jeffrey> im on mint
[23:58] <ThePendulum> OH I read resolution, I facepalmed too quickly
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> osmosis:  i imagine so.. but this channel dosent support cinnamon.
[23:58] <m477> romy420: powertop shows only whole dischagre value, and I wonder how much of it is from display discharge
[23:58] <vicium\a> !offtopic
[23:58] <osmosis> maybe in ubuntu+1
[23:59] <diegosx> Hello! I have a problem.. I downloaded yesterday the last version of Ubuntu and then i put it on a cd.. I try to boot but it stuck on a small man logo :/
[23:59] <romy420> m477, mine shows also the display backilight reading