[01:33] <pleia2> adding dapper eol post to fridge
[01:34] <MrChrisDruif> dapper? 8.04?
[01:34] <pleia2> 6.06
[01:34] <MrChrisDruif> Ow...yeah...
[01:35]  * MrChrisDruif forgets all/most of the time
[01:36]  * MrChrisDruif is going to bed...testing tomorrow and hopefully uploading as well :-)
[01:37] <MrChrisDruif> Sleep well everyone!
[01:37] <pleia2> have a good night
[01:37] <MrChrisDruif> Thanks :)
[03:04] <akgraner> pleia2, thanks!
[07:44] <NRWlion> goooood morning world its 8.45 am here in germany and a look through my windows tells me to have a sunny day without any clouds
[09:58] <NRWlion> morning!
[10:07] <MrChrisDruif> Want me to spread some love to you here as well NRWlion ? ;)
[10:08] <NRWlion> MrChrisDruif: unless you are not a girl in the category of Pamela Denise Andersen I dont think so MrChrisDruif
[10:08] <MrChrisDruif> Love is a very broad concept NRWlion
[11:39] <akgraner> hey y'all
[11:39] <akgraner> good grief I mark myself as back and it looks like I am away...some days xchat has a mind of it's own
[11:40] <akgraner> nhandler, asked me some follow on questions to the email I sent yesterday so expect some more stuff sometime today.....
[11:40] <akgraner> :-)
[11:41] <akgraner> hopefully everyone had a chance to look  over the email, the suggestions, and the new suggested template
[11:41] <NRWlion> akgraner: reporting active
[11:41] <NRWlion> but didnt get the mail
[11:41] <NRWlion> :(
[11:42] <akgraner> NRWlion, ahh I bet you aren't sub'd to the mailing list
[11:42] <NRWlion><EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[11:43] <akgraner> one sec let me get you the link so you can do that -  that's what happened with popey when he said he didn't get it
[11:43] <popey> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2011-June/001310.html
[11:44] <MrChrisDruif> akgraner; Sorry, didn't have time or link
[11:44] <akgraner> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-news-team
[11:45] <akgraner> here's the email link though  - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news-team/2011-June/001310.html
[11:45] <akgraner> I'll detail more stuff today
[11:45] <akgraner> I was busy setting up a test lab yesterday and doing some work for my paid job :-)
[11:45] <Pendulum> akgraner: how dare you do stuff for your paid job :P ;-)
[11:46] <akgraner> Pendulum, I know right....:-P
[11:47] <NRWlion> akgraner: could we have pm?
[11:48] <akgraner> NRWlion, of course
[12:32] <nhandler> akgraner: Do we have an agenda I can comment on for the meeting tonight? I won't be there (graduation)
[12:33] <MrChrisDruif> Ahh, right...meeting...at midnight for me :P
[12:44] <Pendulum> nhandler: congrats :)
[12:49] <nhandler> Thanks Pendulum :)
[13:12]  * NRWlion reports back
[13:14] <NRWlion> akgraner: ready when u are
[13:30] <akgraner> k
[13:31] <akgraner> finishing the other call now
[13:41] <NRWlion> feel free to call at any time ;)
[13:41] <NRWlion> just fetching a nice mc flurry out of the fridge
[13:59] <NRWlion> akgraner my skype seems to have some probs
[13:59] <NRWlion> so i am not able to talk :(
[13:59] <NRWlion> as it seems
[14:00] <NRWlion> and now you are offline akgraner :D
[14:03] <akgraner> grrrr x locked up on me....
[14:03] <akgraner> I hate that
[14:29] <akgraner> NRWlion, thanks for a great call - looking forward to your help on the team
[14:29] <NRWlion> akgraner: the pleasure was mine ;)
[14:30] <akgraner> So folks just so you all know NRWlion has a newspaper and leadership background and is willing to help us with the re'org and re-launch etc... thanks for volunteering!
[14:31] <NRWlion> akgraner: you're welcome ;)
[14:38] <MrChrisDruif> Thanks akgraner , I already knew :)
[14:38] <MrChrisDruif> Well, welcome in #ubuntu-news NRWlion (even thou I'm just hanging around ;))
[14:38] <akgraner> MrChrisDruif, awesome not sure everyone else did though
[14:39] <akgraner> MrChrisDruif, what would you like to help with?
[14:39] <NRWlion> MrChrisDruif: now youre kidnapped too :P
[14:39] <MrChrisDruif> Hehe, not sure
[14:39] <MrChrisDruif> Meh, they don't have the same skills as phillw or hajour :P
[14:40] <NRWlion> MrChrisDruif: pls dont mention those two names in one sentence
[14:41] <NRWlion> akgraner: one question. the meeting on thursday is it 22.00 hrs utc?
[14:41] <NRWlion> or 20.00 ?
[14:41] <MrChrisDruif> NRWlion; I'm not afraid of either
[14:42] <MrChrisDruif> 22:00 I think...I saw it on my agenda at 12 ;)
[14:42] <NRWlion> well its scheduled in the ubuntu calendar
[14:42] <NRWlion> ok in this case i must write myself an apology :D because i have to get up at 4.30 am on fridays... so i wont be able to attend
[14:43] <akgraner> crap I need to fix the topic and meeting time
[14:44] <akgraner> I'll work on that this afternoon
[14:48] <NRWlion> i will take some "me" time now
[14:48] <NRWlion> may be back in a couple of hrs
[14:48] <NRWlion> but not too late
[18:14] <NRWlion> evening folks
[18:26] <NRWlion> hi jono
[18:29] <jono> hi NRWlion
[18:29] <NRWlion> jono: finally had the chance to talk to amber
[18:29] <jono> NRWlion, cool
[18:30] <NRWlion> talked nearly an hour ... so just for your info, the bird had touch down ;)
[21:13] <akgraner> grabbing the Alpha 1 release to add to Fridge now (unless someone else is working on it)
[21:15] <pleia2> thanks akgraner
[21:17] <NRWlion> have a good one every1
[21:19] <akgraner> http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/06/02/oneiric-ocelot-alpha-1-released/
[21:20] <akgraner> NRWlion, you too!
[21:21] <NRWlion> hi akgraner ;) just rushing through the template to state my opinion in a mail to you as agreed on skype
[21:21] <NRWlion> ;)
[21:21] <pleia2> I think ubuntu-news.org does some over-aggressive caching, it frequently doesn't show me the latest posts
[21:22] <NRWlion> hi pleia
[21:22] <NRWlion> when does the meeting now start? on 8 or 10 pm utc?
[21:22] <pleia2> in one browser it only shows me up to the open week post, in another it just shows me the karmic one
[21:22] <akgraner> pleia2, yep had the same trouble
[21:23] <pleia2> akgraner: can you submit a ticket (and CC editors gmail account?)
[21:23] <akgraner> yep will do
[21:23] <pleia2> thanks :)
[21:24] <akgraner> I am not at all prepared for a meeting today....
[21:24] <akgraner> anyone mind me moving it back a week and actually prepare for it
[21:24] <NRWlion> akgraner: could we change the day to?
[21:25] <NRWlion> maybe on a saturday or sth?
[21:25] <akgraner> no weekends for me
[21:25] <NRWlion> thursday is the worst day in my week :(
[21:25] <NRWlion> akgraner: just asking
[21:26] <akgraner> I think we have thursday b/c so many members have back to back meetings on other days
[21:26] <akgraner> but if you all want I'll send out a doodle poll this week...
[21:26] <akgraner> and we can figure out a better time a day, but keep in mind no date and time will please everyone :-)
[21:26] <NRWlion> akgraner: copy that ... i was just asking b/c the time 10pm utc on thursday will excluse my presence for every meeting
[21:27] <akgraner> gotcha
[21:27] <akgraner> I'll send out an email in the am and see what the team wants to do
[21:27] <akgraner> we'd like for as many people as possible to be there
[21:27] <akgraner> :-)
[21:27] <NRWlion> 2 hrs earlier would do it also
[21:28] <akgraner> I'll send out the poll... and see what we get back
[21:28] <akgraner> :-)
[21:28] <NRWlion> akgraner: ty ;)
[21:28] <akgraner> so all in favor of canceling for today
[21:28] <NRWlion> +1
[21:29] <akgraner> or do we just want to do something short and quick tomorrow
[21:29] <akgraner> pleia2, nhandler
[21:30] <NRWlion> tomorrow = what time?
[21:30] <akgraner> I can have an agenda ready for a quick one tomorrow
[21:30] <NRWlion> b/c i have to work tomorrow from 7.40am till 5 pm + an hr by car
[21:30] <NRWlion> ;)
[21:30] <akgraner> yeah I'm working too
[21:31] <akgraner> let's see - I'll just send out emails to everyone and go from there
[21:31] <NRWlion> akgraner: but on my end i have to count in the difference of TZ
[21:31] <NRWlion> ;)
[21:31]  * NRWlion hides
[21:31] <akgraner> this week has been crazy, but we'll get it all back on track
[21:31] <akgraner> NRWlion, so do others
[21:31] <akgraner> you aren't alone...:-)
[21:33] <NRWlion> i know i know ... i'll go and get productive ;)
[21:33] <akgraner> :-)
[21:33] <akgraner> cxl'd meeting on calendar and I'll email team tonight
[21:34]  * NRWlion just got off the phone with his CEO of Medic Organization...
[21:35] <NRWlion> hey *fun* they have put me on EM-Standby-Duty :(
[22:08] <NRWlion> pleia2: u there?
[22:39] <NRWlion> some1 there from news team?
[22:40] <NRWlion> hey cody-somerville


[00:20] <sinzui> rockstar: if you are still reviewing: https://code.launchpad.net/~sinzui/launchpad/something-and-nothing/+merge/20191
[01:26] <rockstar> sinzui, looking
[11:07] <al-maisan> Good morning adeuring, could you please take a look at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~al-maisan/launchpad/restricted-ui/+merge/20145 ?
[11:07] <adeuring> hi al-maisansure, I'll look
[11:07] <al-maisan> the diff is not quite right, this is all the branch does: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/384297/
[11:08] <al-maisan> adeuring: ^^
[11:08] <adeuring> sl-thanks!
[11:12] <bigjools> adeuring: simple branch for ya
[11:12] <adeuring> bigjools: sure; i just started a review for al-maisan, after that one?
[11:12] <bigjools> np
[11:15] <al-maisan> do we need a database review for a branch that modifies database/schema/security.cfg ?
[11:23] <adeuring> al-maisan: r=me; 1 nitpick
[11:23] <al-maisan> adeuring: thanks :)
[11:24] <al-maisan> adeuring: I'll take care of the nitpick
[11:34] <adeuring> bigjools: r=me
[11:35] <bigjools> adeuring: thanks very much
[11:35] <bigjools> no nitpicks? :)
[11:38] <noodles775> Hi adeuring, I've got an 820 line pure test refactoring branch needing review, but if you'd prefer, I can move the last change out and into the next pipe: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~michael.nelson/launchpad/ppa-privatisation-test-refactor5/+merge/20207
[11:38] <jelmer> hi adeuring
[11:38] <jelmer> adeuring: When you have a chance, can you have a look at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jelmer/launchpad/bug471148-ui/+merge/20208 ?
[11:38] <jelmer> Hmm, today seems to be soyuz review day :-)
[11:39] <bigjools> we're productive dudes
[11:39] <adeuring> noodles775: na... that's fine
[11:39] <adeuring> jelmer: sure, i can look.
[11:39] <noodles775> Thanks adeuring !
[11:41] <jelmer> adeuring: Thanks
[11:41] <gmb> adeuring: Okay if I add another branch to the queue?
[11:42] <adeuring> gmb: sure, but I just strted a somewhat longer review for noodles775
[11:42] <gmb> adeuring: Okay, I'll see if I can find someone else to reviw my branch.
[12:46] <salgado> gmb, I'll start my shift shortly and I'll have plenty of time to review yours
[13:02] <gmb> salgado: allenap's kindly agreed to review it in the meantime; sorry, I forgot to remove it from the queue. Thanks anyway.
[13:05] <salgado> no worries
[13:28] <noodles775> Thanks adeuring .
[13:38] <bigjools> adeuring: I have a further tweak to the change you just reviewed, it's on the queue.
[13:38] <adeuring> bigjools: ok
[13:38] <bigjools> I have to run out to give a presentation on FLOSS to my son's school now!
[13:44] <jtv-afk> bigjools: run, julian, run!
[13:46] <adeuring> jelmer: could you add doc strings to _get_arm_builds_enabled() and _get_arm_builds_disabled()?
[13:47] <adeuring> jelmer: sorry... i mean _set_arm_builds_enabled() instead of the "disabled"
[13:47] <jelmer> adeuring: ok
[13:49] <adeuring> jelmer: there is an "elif" in set_arms_builds_enabled() without a final "else". Could you add such an "else: pass", together with a comment why nothing needs to be done in this case?
[13:51] <adeuring> jelmer: and (sorry about all these nitpick for one method...): The comment "a link is required but it is present" is a bit enigmatic, at least for me. What about sonething like "Arms builds are already enabled"?
[13:51] <jelmer> adeuring: Sure, that's more sensible indeed.
[13:56] <adeuring> jelmer: getPubSource() in test_publishing.py needs a doc string
[14:00] <adeuring> jelmer: other than these nitpicks, r=me
[14:00] <jelmer> adeuring: Thanks!
[14:01] <adeuring> jelmer: welcome
[14:59] <noodles775> Hi again adeuring ! I've got the final test refactoring branch ready if you've time: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~michael.nelson/launchpad/ppa-privatisation-test-refactor6/+merge/20227
[14:59] <adeuring> noodles775: could you ask salgado? I have a somewhat urgent branch myself...
[14:59] <noodles775> Sure, salgado?
[15:01] <salgado> noodles775, I'm working on a critical issue, but if gary_poster can't take it I will
[15:02] <gary_poster> noodles775, salgado: looking
[15:06] <gary_poster> salgado: changed topic taking you off reviewers
[15:06] <salgado> thanks gary_poster
[15:06] <gary_poster> noodles775: why did you remove test_login.py?
[15:07] <noodles775> gary_poster: I didn't... a local diff between this pipe and the prev shows everything but the test_login.py.
[15:07] <noodles775> I was just trying to figure out what was going on with the MP.
[15:08] <gary_poster> noodles775: ok, I'll just clarify in the review that merging that removal is not ok, and leave you to handle the mechanism :-)
[15:11] <noodles775> gary_poster: I'll merge RF into the initial pipe (there are 7 in total) and push it through and see if it's still there when the diff regenerates on the MP.
[15:12] <gary_poster> noodles775: ack, ok
[15:14] <salgado> gary_poster, noodles775, in my openid branch I added a test_new_login.py file and later removed test_login.py.  then on a subsequent branch I renamed test_new_login.py to test_login.py.  that, together with pipes, might have confused  bzr?
[15:15] <noodles775> salgado: thanks for the info - I thought it may have been related to your branch I reviewed yesterday. If that's the case, pumping a fresh RF through my pipes should resolve the issue. (I hope)
[15:15] <gary_poster> noodles775: in xx-private-builds.txt, why is it OK to remove diff line 375ff? ("Now visit the same page as an admin we can see that there are four more...")
[15:15] <gary_poster> thanks salgado
[15:17] <gary_poster> noodles775: also, in the previous section of the same file, why did the result change (5 of 17 results, and different values)?  If explaining it takes too long, I'll accept "because of changes that have previously passed review"
[15:18] <gary_poster> but I'd like reassurance that you are confident of the change, at least :-)
[15:19] <gary_poster> hm, I could understand an increase of 1, since we added the private p3a archive, but I don't understand 14 -> 17
[15:24] <noodles775> sorry gary_poster, I'll be there in a minute or two.
[15:24] <gary_poster> np noodles775
[15:30] <stub> gary_poster: You already have looked at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~stub/launchpad/memcache/+merge/20226 earlier. Its finished now.
[15:31] <noodles775> gary_poster: so, regarding your first question, 375ff, the test for authorised viewers seeing the builds in the history was moved to just below with the Frog builder.
[15:31] <noodles775> It looks like a lot less test-code because the Frog builder only has the one build in its history (it's not polluted with sample data :)).
[15:31] <stub> (it won't land this cycle though if you need to prioritize)
[15:32] <gary_poster> noodles775: ah ok cool thanks
[15:32] <noodles775> gary_poster: and your second question is related, because previously cprov's ppa was switched to private (which is no longer allowed), and had a bunch of publishings.
[15:33] <gary_poster> stub: cool, I'll take it, unless flacoste, who was just complimenting the branch, tells me that he'll take it.  But I'll shepherd it one way or the other
[15:33] <noodles775> So the 14 -> 17 is because there are 3 packages in cprov's public archive (when it was private ,they did not show up).
[15:33] <gary_poster> stub: yeah, I'll take it :-)
[15:33] <flacoste> stub: it's not a review, but heh, nice work! i like the syntax a lot!
[15:33] <stub> ta :)
[15:34] <noodles775> s/packages/builds of course.
[15:38] <gary_poster> noodles775: we dupe the private setup in xx-source-package-publishing.txt and xx-binary-package-publishing.txt (">>> from lp.registry.interfaces.distribution import IDistributionSet...").  You considered and rejected a helper function?  Two copies is arguable, maybe.  Three, much less so. :-)
[15:39] <gary_poster> So if you considered and rejected then I'm OK, but otherwise, please consider :-)
[15:41] <sinzui> bac: EdwinGrubbs: are either of you available to review https://code.launchpad.net/~sinzui/launchpad/timeout-portlet-package-summary-2/+merge/20228
[15:41] <noodles775> gary_poster: no I didn't consider it - sounds good.
[15:41] <gary_poster> ok cool noodles775
[15:42] <bac> sinzui: i can do it later.  i just made a break through on my testing so i'd prefer not to interrupt that effort ATM
[15:42] <sinzui> rock
[15:43] <allenap> adeuring, gary_poster: Are either of you close to be able to review another branch? If not I'll see if I can get a quick review elsewhere.
[15:44] <gary_poster> allenap: I'd be able to do it in about...30-45 min, I'd guess
[15:46] <allenap> gary_poster: Okay, I'll go and prod someone else. (I don't have much time left to work today, that's the only reason.) Thank you though :)
[15:46] <gary_poster> allenap: cool, np :-)
[15:46] <gary_poster> noodles775: I'm finishing the review, but merge-conditional on not landing the deletion of test_login.py
[15:47] <adeuring> allenap: I can review it in a few miuntes
[15:47] <gary_poster> I mean, I'm writing it up
[15:47] <gary_poster> but it is r=gary with that
[15:47] <allenap> adeuring: deryck is doing it now, but thank you anyway.
[15:47] <noodles775> gary_poster: thanks. Actually, if you re-load the MP you'll see that it's no longer there (pumping a fresh RF through seems to have helped)
[15:48] <gary_poster> noodles775: confirmed, awesome :-)
[16:49] <noodles775> Hi gary_poster, would you object if I land that earlier branch without creating the pagetest helper? I need to leave 20mins ago and would like to send it off to ec2.
[16:51] <gary_poster> noodles775: that's fine
[16:51] <noodles775> gary_poster: ta.
[18:24] <sinzui> bac: EdwinGrubbs: can either of you review my branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~sinzui/launchpad/timeout-portlet-package-summary-2/+merge/20228 If we cannot land it, we need to RC and remove code next week
[18:24] <bac> sinzui: yes
[18:35] <bac> sinzui: is there a bug to put the 'needs linking' section back in?
[18:35] <bac> assuming we can solve the query timeouts
[18:39] <sinzui> no there is not
[18:39] <sinzui> bac: I assume we need a model change and job to do daily updates
[18:40] <bac> sinzui: am i right in assuming we want to restore it?  i just don't want to rip it out and then forget about it.
[18:41] <sinzui> bac: yes we should restore it after the next two blueprints
[18:41] <sinzui> I can report a bug and add an XXX
[18:41] <bac> cool
[18:41] <bac> done
[19:21] <sinzui> bac: I was able to restore the template. I changed view/needs_linking to return None and left an XXX. We can re-enable the template by uncommenting a line
[19:22] <bac> ah, sweet
[20:55] <intellectronica> can anyone take a small branch for review?
[20:56] <intellectronica> i see that there's a bit of a queue, and it's getting late for me, so if anyone other than gary wants to snatch it now i'll be grateful
[20:56] <intellectronica> only 115 lines
[20:57] <intellectronica> rockstar: how about you? you're being suspiciously quiet
[20:58] <intellectronica> EdwinGrubbs: maybe you fancy a short review?
[20:59] <EdwinGrubbs> intellectronica: I should able to do a review in about 30 minutes.
[20:59] <intellectronica> EdwinGrubbs: wow, you're amazing. thanks so much. i'm creating an MP now
[21:04] <intellectronica> EdwinGrubbs: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~intellectronica/launchpad/heat-decay-complete/+merge/20250
[21:14] <gary-lunch> sinzui: do you have a branch you need me to look at?
[21:14] <sinzui> gary, no, sorry, bac reviewed it for me
[21:14] <gary_poster> cool
[21:15] <bac> gary_poster: you ditched us last night!
[21:16] <gary_poster> bac: :-P sorry.  talked later with chris rossi at the office and then decided I had had my "drink".  I'll stay later next time...esp. when it is closer to home. :-)
[21:16] <gary_poster> bac, do you thnk you will do any of the hack nights?
[21:17] <bac> yes, probably.  especially if i make any progress on my side project, which hasn't gotten off the ground yet
[21:45] <EdwinGrubbs> intellectronica: review sent
[21:46] <intellectronica> EdwinGrubbs: great, thanks a million!
[21:49] <bdmurray> intellectronica: so I've figured out what was wrong with export bug linked branches branch
[21:49] <intellectronica> bdmurray: oh yeah? what was it?
[21:50] <bdmurray> intellectronica: I believe we were importing and using the wrong thing.  But now I'm uncertain how to proceed with a new or modified merge proposal
[21:51] <intellectronica> bdmurray: excellent. i'm just about to sign off, but i'll be back tomorrow, so if you have something ready i can review and land it for you
[21:51] <bdmurray> intellectronica: okay, cool.  Should I just make a whole new merge proposal against devel and reference the old one?
[21:51] <intellectronica> bdmurray: sure, that works


[14:44] <lostson_> tornado sirens went off here in kimberly
[16:26]  * mikeputnam     Membership renewed until 2012-09-08.
[17:23]  * Cheesehead also renewed membership today
[17:29] <Cheesehead> Event reminder - Milwaukee Ubuntu Hour, 6 PM. http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-wisconsin/1093/detail/
[17:56]  * Cheesehead just sent Global Jam events reminder to the mailing list
[18:12] <ripps> If anybody has any packaging questions during the Jam, just ask me
[20:57] <Cheesehead> ripps: Thanks
[23:02] <Cheesehe1d> The Milwaukee Ubuntu Hour Begins!
[23:04] <Cheesehe1d> Now I have a reason to enable internet logins to my irssi machine - 'Cheesehe1d' sound like I have a cold
[23:08]  * Cheesehe1d noticed that the battery meter tirned yellow, and plugs in the laptop
[23:40]  * Cheesehe1d 's battery is back up to 60%
[23:58]  * Cheesehe1d 's battery is back up to 84%
[23:58] <Cheesehe1d> Thanks everyone for coming.
[23:58] <Cheesehe1d> #endUbuntuHour


[04:52] <lotuspsychje> good morning mates
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[05:01] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: morning mate
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[12:33] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
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[14:10] <daftykins> greets
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> hello daftykins
[14:13] <daftykins> oh dear what did ubottu do this morning :O
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> what did he
[14:14] <daftykins> < OerHeks> hahaha * ubottu has quit (K-Lined)
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> ahh
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> by who?
[14:15] <daftykins> no idea
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> !life
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> its back allright :p
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> so logs must show someone unbanned
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> fun hack of the day: add inxi -x -w in .bashrc and get a weather report every time you launch a terminal
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/italy-s-ministry-of-defense-to-drop-microsoft-office-in-favor-of-libreoffice-491850.shtml
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> alot of countries get interested in open source
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> !find unity plugin extras
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-16.04-Unity-Bugs
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> ok start working guys :p
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> http://www.whizzy.org/2015/09/big-bug-bonanza-16-04-lts/
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> and the official one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BigDesktopBugScrub
[17:14] <lordievader> You know virtio-9p is quite nice.
[17:14] <lordievader> Good alternative for nfs.
[17:14] <lordievader> Well kvm + nfs shares I mean.
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> someone knows howto get a ralink2800pci wifi driver on usb stick to install to an offline box?
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> doesnt work out of the box
[20:05] <EriC^^> rt2800pci.ko is in the linux-image-extra package
[20:06] <EriC^^> /lib/modules/3.19.0-26-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2x00/rt2800pci.ko
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: oh nice
[20:07] <EriC^^> i guess it should be there though.. dunno why it's not working
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: so howto install properly
[20:07] <EriC^^> is it loaded? did you try lsmod | grep rt2800 ?
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> holdon lemme go upstairs
[20:08] <lordievader> Sneakernet?
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: shows rt2800pci in red/green yep and whole list of others
[20:09] <EriC^^> ok
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> now modprobe?
[20:09] <EriC^^> it should already be loaded
[20:10] <EriC^^> give it a shot i guess
[20:10] <EriC^^> sudo modprobe -r rt2800pci then sudo modprobe rt2800pci
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> network still shows unclaimed
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> ok holdon
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> nothing lemme reboot
[20:11] <EriC^^> try iwlist scan
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> no wifi showing up
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> lo and eth1 only
[20:14] <EriC^^> hmm try ifconfig -a
[20:14] <EriC^^> is there wlan?
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> same eth1 and lo
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> my card is plugged in yes
[20:15] <EriC^^> try dmesg is there anything there?
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> and sudo lshw -C network shows unclaimed card
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> holdon lemme see
[20:15] <EriC^^> try rfkill list
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> shows nothing
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> dmesg: rt200pci enabling device 0001-0003
[20:17] <EriC^^> is it a usb wifi?
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> np pci card from linksys
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> works normally after installing ubuntu with cable
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> but this time im on an offline box
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> and dont have my 10m eth cable handy :p
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> the weird thing
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> when i edit connections
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> i see my ssid under WIFI
[20:21] <EriC^^> maybe it worked with the live usb?
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> no, but installed right away
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> should i try live? try?
[20:22] <EriC^^> yeah but maybe it picked it up or something
[20:22] <EriC^^> yeah why not
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> ok ill give it a shot live
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> nop same
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> unclaimed
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> and modprobe does nothing
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: that lib dir doesnt show the driver here
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> can you send it to me?
[20:30] <EriC^^> try locate rt2800pci
[20:30] <EriC^^> try lspci | grep Network maybe there's something online about it
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> yeah shows now
[20:31] <EriC^^> paste it here
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> in the lib and usr/src/...
[20:31] <EriC^^> i cant send it cause it's for my kernel
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> cant paste im offline
[20:33] <daftykins> type? :D
[20:33] <EriC^^> try to blacklist the rt2800pci and enable rt2860sta
[20:33] <EriC^^> found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1692528
[20:35] <EriC^^> hmm i can't find that module anywhere
[20:35] <EriC^^> !find rt2860sta
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> lspci shows capabilities: access denied
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> network controller: ralink corp RT2800 802.11n PCI
[20:36] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: try lspci -k | grep -A2 Network
[20:37] <EriC^^> which drivers is it using?
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> none
[20:37] <EriC^^> it says drivers none?
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> shows no driver text
[20:37] <EriC^^> oh
[20:37] <EriC^^> try lspci -k | grep -A4 Network
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> network is unclaimed
[20:38] <EriC^^> or lspci -v
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> yeah -v shows same
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> ralink name
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> subsystem: linksys device 0067
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> flags: slow devsel IRQ 18
[20:39] <lotuspsychje> memory....
[20:39] <lotuspsychje> capabilities: access denied
[20:39] <lotuspsychje> no driver text
[20:39] <EriC^^> this looks promising http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2257359
[20:39] <EriC^^> reading
[20:41] <EriC^^> so... got a vacuum cleaner?
[20:42] <EriC^^> haha:D
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> loool
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> i plugged it in good for sure :p
[20:42] <EriC^^> try lspci -nn | grep Network
[20:42] <EriC^^> what's the number at the end [xxxx:xxxx]
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> 1814:0601
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> good evening Ben64
[20:49] <Ben64> hi
[20:49] <daftykins> \o
[20:49] <Ben64> this channel is quite empty
[20:49] <daftykins> welcome to the patch of sanity away from the great unwashed
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> but very active
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: dont think i need firmware, because it worked on internet enabled box
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> can bios block new pci device maybe?
[20:57] <lotuspsychje> ah found syslog error
[20:58] <lotuspsychje> phy0: rt2800_probe_rt: error invalid RT chipset 0xffff rev ffff detected
[20:59] <lotuspsychje> phy0: rt2x00lib_probe_dev: error failed to allocate device
[21:10] <EriC^^> try iwconfig
[21:11] <lotuspsychje> no wireless
[21:12] <lotuspsychje> ill try back tomorrow EriC^^ tnx for helping
[21:12] <EriC^^> ok, np
[21:12] <lotuspsychje> sleep tight mate
[21:12] <EriC^^> you too
[21:12] <lotuspsychje> and cheers to all
[21:12] <lotuspsychje> tnx


[19:11] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: Ardour 7.2 is a thing
[19:12] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'll keep an eye on Debian Multimedia emails.
[19:35] <Eickmeyer> Gdflk7sj
[19:36] <arraybolt3> ?
[19:36] <Eickmeyer> Nvm, ignore.
[19:36] <Eickmeyer> Dog jumped on the keyboard while I was typing something else.
[19:37] <OvenWerks> I thought it was a license plate.
[19:37] <arraybolt3> lol you should see the stuff my cat types sometimes.
[19:37] <Eickmeyer> He's a Husky and likes to pretend he's a wolf and attack me while I'm at the computer. XD
[19:37] <arraybolt3> It's realy awesome when she just parks on the Enter key.
[19:38] <Eickmeyer> Mine usually parks on my Push-To-Talk pedals, which can cause stuff to just be typed like vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv forever.
[19:38] <arraybolt3> *Sigh.* Welp, I guess I need to add a lubuntu-meta update with the Pre-Depends to make this work right, my bug fix just failed entirely.
[19:39] <arraybolt3> Eickmeyer: Heh, my old laptop could do thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat just as a result of disk I/O bottlenecks.
[19:39] <Eickmeyer> HAHAHA I know that feeling. XD
[20:23] <arraybolt3> Eickmeyer: (Non-critical, don't interrupt your meeting for this) wrt Edubuntu and customizing it for various different usecases, I thought you might like this: https://github.com/calamares/calamares/blob/calamares/src/modules/packagechooser/packagechooser.conf We almost used it in Lubuntu for a minimal installation option, thought that might be handy.
[20:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> arraybolt3: Thanks, but it's going to be the GNOME desktop and very closely related to vanilla Ubuntu, so we're going to be going with the new installer.
[20:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> (for Edubuntu, to make that clear for those in the room)
[21:02] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: That package chooser, though, would be very useful for Studio.
[21:03] <arraybolt3> Oh nice. Glad it looks good for something at least! :P
[21:03] <arraybolt3> btw is there an #edubuntu-dev room yet?
[21:03] <arraybolt3> That's probably something for later I would guess.
[21:03] <Eickmeyer> There used to be back on Freenode.
[21:05] <arraybolt3> Yeah I don't see one here. Anyway, sounds like things are going good! I'm going to get back to waiting for a PPA to finish publishing a package I just pushed. I'm starting to get worried that maybe the postinst hack in lubuntu-update-notifier isn't going to work, so I uploaded a version of the package that kills and restarts everything indiscriminately to see if it works at all. If that
[21:05] <arraybolt3> doesn't work, then we're back to the drawing board.
[21:05] <arraybolt3> And if *that* happens, then I have no clue what we're going to do at that point.
[21:06] <arraybolt3> (I already have a version of lubuntu-meta that predepends on my lubuntu-update-notifier hack in my PPA.)
[21:06] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, it's in the scary-sauce territory at this point.
[21:08] <arraybolt3> I guess we could just include instructions on how the user can unbreak things manually in the worst case scenario. *If* we can get lubuntu-update-notifier to unpack and configure before sddm or whatever else tries to do so, that is.
[21:09] <arraybolt3> But then how are we going to get those instructions onto the user's screen? Argh! Well, I'mma try this and hopefully we won't have to dive down this rabbit hole. And I'm in the wrong channel anyway.
[21:28] <Eickmeyer> Getting instructions onto the screen? I mean.... kdialog... ezpz.