[08:52] <zcat[1]> Saint`Diamond: we don't care if you're impotent.. windows is still OT here..
[08:52] <GCtoday> Oh no...:(
[08:53] <Saint`Diamond> LoL.
[08:53] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: use your user password
[08:53] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, yup, i was gonna get a new alienware notebook, with a hybrid drive, and just wondering if gutsy supported it so i can throw that on there as a dual boot
[08:53] <Saint`Diamond> Dude, apples and oranges man.
[08:53] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Saint`Diamond, msn is not supported in this channel
[08:53] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: remember that linux is case sensitive (and you need to be sudoer)
[08:53] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  egads.. You got more $$ for a laptop then I do. :)
[08:53] <GCtoday> It doesn't go in no matte what I do.
[08:53] <Saint`Diamond> I was'nt asking for MSN help. lol.
[08:53] <legend2440> tsukasa: have you tried cat *.wmv > final.wmv    for example?
[08:53] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, not really, i would just pay monthly probably
[08:53] <GCtoday> My password is all numbers
[08:53] <terminal> gctoday, first u do apt-cache search irssi
[08:53] <zcat[1]> Saint`Diamond: it seems to me you're just trolling. Did you have an ubuntu question?
[08:54] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !help | Saint`Diamond
[08:54] <ubotu> Saint`Diamond: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:54] <terminal> how to resize d ext 3 partition
[08:54] <Saint`Diamond> Dudes, I'm just chatting. I'm not dissing ubuntu. Geeze.
[08:54] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  I go the "cheap' route and get a new low end laptop every year. :)  its amazing what you can get in a linux laptop for under $400
[08:54] <Saint`Diamond> I use ubuntu.
[08:54] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> !offtopic | Saint`Diamond
[08:54] <ubotu> Saint`Diamond: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:54] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: are you the only user of that comp?
[08:54] <tsukasa> legend2440, the first one is named differently then the rest. im trying to get unrar to work as the are *.partxx.rar but unrar swears its not a rar archive
[08:54] <tsukasa> legend2440, even though winrar will do it
[08:54] <leo_rockw> Q: what app can I use to monitor bandwith usage per process?
[08:55] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  reading this wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_drive - seems like vista supports it  witht he 'readydrive'  feature.. which from what i hear.. is a rather useless feature. :)
[08:55] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, im more about it look sexy than performing as well, but im also all about the power, and im debating between a hot lg notebook and alienware. dell has some awesome power in their high end xps but they look like junk
[08:55] <GCtoday> Yes I am the only user
[08:55] <leo_rockw> tsukasa: what rar did you install? maybe the free one doesn't work (?) there's rar free and non free
[08:55] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: then your regular password has to work
[08:55] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, yeah i know vista supports it, i wanted to know if ubuntu did :p
[08:55] <tsukasa> leo_rockw, i tried the one off the site and apt-get unrar
[08:56] <tsukasa> leo_rockw, both say its not a rar archive
[08:56] <skanarchy> hi all
[08:56] <GCtoday> It is all numbers and it doesn't at all, I have tried rebooting and all sorts of silly stuff.
[08:56] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:    The whole readyboost/readydrive thing is total bull from what ive read. You can get the same effect with just using a usb thumbdrive..
[08:56] <tsukasa> Dr_willis, thats not true, if you have <1gb of ram readyboost helps
[08:57] <tuxist> what is this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59801/
[08:57] <Dr_willis> tsukasa:  if you have <1 gb of ram and using vista = You need to be spending more $$ on ram.. Not a high end HD. :)
[08:57] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, it is not the same as readyboost, which is boosting your ram with flash drives, basically a hybrid drive is going to conserve power, increase speed and the platters wont have to spin constantly to write data, not to mention its non-volatile
[08:57] <leo_rockw> tsukasa: if you apt-get install unrar you get the nonfree version. idk then...
[08:57] <zcat[1]> If you have <1G of ram, you can even boot vista far enough to detect a thumbdrive?
[08:57] <GCtoday> Is there a website I can go to that will help me with this?
[08:57] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  spend your $$ how ya want. I doubt if its worth the extra cost.
[08:57] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: well, i really don't know what to tell you. your user password should be working
[08:58] <tuxist> i think thats the problem
[08:58] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne: id rather have  a larger hd, then one with flash stuff in it. :) or more real ram
[08:58] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne, jusr buy 4-8gb of ram and be done with it
[08:58] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: does "sudo echo moo" do anything?
[08:58] <leo_rockw> what app can I use to monitor bandwith use per process, application or pid?
[08:58] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne, readyboost doesnt help north of 2gb
[08:58] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, again a hybrid drive has nothing to do with readyboost or your ram, it has to do with increasing the speed/power of your hdd
[08:58] <tuxist> how can i disable otp
[08:58] <GCtoday> Can I change my user password at all?
[08:58] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  the wiki sort of says otherwise.
[08:58] <TrustNoOne> tsukasa, notebooks dont support past 3-4 gb
[08:58] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne, well 4gb then
[08:59] <Dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReadyDrive#ReadyDrive
[08:59] <TrustNoOne> tsukasa, increasing ram will not increase hard drive performance ;)
[08:59] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne, raid0?
[08:59] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne, ssd
[09:00] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_drive (i am not worried about ready drive, i will not be using it at all)
[09:00] <TrustNoOne> tsukasa, no raid
[09:00] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne,that drive sounds like a gimmick tbh
[09:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm. that is an interesting read on the state of  the hybrid drives...  I betting in a year.. they will be a thing of the past.
[09:00] <TrustNoOne> tsukasa, lol gimmick?
[09:01] <zcat[1]> it would make more sense to just put a bigger ram cache on the damn thing.. why use flash if it's not actually supposed to survive being powered off anyhow?
[09:01] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, well its either hybrid drive or 7200rpm for a notebook, and moving your notebook is a good way to snap the head off the platter when its going at 7200rpm
[09:01] <GCtoday> Also, if that command does more than just install irc, what is the command to just install irssi?
[09:01] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: do any commands work with sudo?
[09:01] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: sudo apt-get install irssi
[09:01] <zcat[1]> from what I'm reading it sounds like a half-baked idea.
[09:01] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  if you are worried about that.. go with those new SolidState Drives. :)
[09:01] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: with the command you pasted you're telling it to install screen too (which might not be a bad idea either lol)
[09:01] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, those are too slow IMO
[09:01] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne Dr_willis or go with a MBP which has the shutoff sensor
[09:02] <tsukasa> and put whatever OS you want on it
[09:02] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, 5400rpm hybrid will be almost lik 7200rpm hdd
[09:02] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  they are new tech. reviews and newsive been reading say they will get much fster soon.
[09:02] <Pupeno> I'm buying two hard disks for making backups, so I'm buying a Western Digital and a Segate, both 500MB, does it makes sense? I'll buy the enclosures separately.
[09:02] <GCtoday> Nope same result the computer won't accept the password again.
[09:02] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: and ssh or smth like that (i don't remember)
[09:02] <zcat[1]> BTW; I installed the prefetch package in ubuntu ..  it makes a big difference, OOo opens in less than a second, it used to take two or three
[09:02] <fourvees> !search *
[09:02] <ubotu> Found: logs-#ubuntuforums, tvout, hdbug, picard, ubunto, winkey, overshare, meta, scope, buntudot
[09:02] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  Im not seeing  anywhere that states Hybrid drives with flash are that much faster.  UNlike those ram-hybrid drives..
[09:02] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, thats the same thing with all technology, if i wait a year of course ill get much better stuff for the same price, but that will be the case always
[09:02] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: try changing your password with the "passwd" command
[09:03]  * Dr_willis reads some more.
[09:03] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, "This offers numerous benefits, chief among them speed,[1] decreased power consumption, improved reliability, and a faster boot process."
[09:03] <terminal> how to transform d free space of ntfs partition to ext3 partition
[09:03] <leo_rockw> hey guys, does anybody know of an app that will show me how my bandwith is being used?
[09:03] <leo_rockw> terminal: qtparted or gparted
[09:03] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  its faster to boot - is not the same as overall preformance
[09:03] <TommyBoy> I have a question,... I installed Ubuntu Gutsy on my Fujitsu-Siemens laptop and my Fn keys don't work
[09:04] <GCtoday> Nope it is asking for my password again and am unable tou input it...
[09:04] <joe_> Hello all.  I'm having a problem with Ubuntu start up.  I see the splash screen and after that goes away I hear the login sound, but nothing is on the screen
[09:04] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  thats vista and its caching files on the ram part. once its booted. its not using the ram stuff - from what i read.
[09:04] <TommyBoy> does anyone know how to solve this problem?
[09:04] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, if its faster to boot, you might as well be saying its read is faster
[09:04] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: when you type in the password you won't see anything, just type it in and press enter
[09:04] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  it wont give you faster load times in your 20gb+ doom6 levels.
[09:04] <GCtoday> Okay
[09:04] <Dr_willis> but the pc will boot 10 sec! faster
[09:04] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, yes but it still offers non-volatile storage as well as the platters arent constantly spinning
[09:04] <terminal> leo_rockw; gparted is a software
[09:04] <leo_rockw> terminal: it is
[09:05] <TrustNoOne> Dr_willis, again my options are hybrid or 7200rpm drive, so im getting hybrid (because thats my only option atm for the custom build notebook) and if its not going to work in ubuntu, i might go with lg instead
[09:05] <tsukasa> TrustNoOne, if you get a MBP and drop it while the platters are spinning it will shut off the hard drive to avoid corruption
[09:05] <TrustNoOne> tsukasa, never have i dropped a laptop
[09:05] <Dr_willis> TrustNoOne:  but from how i read it. vista is using that storage just for the boot files.     go for it! write a review/wiki page on the topic
[09:05] <terminal> leo_rockw; gparted i can install it frm add or ramove programm
[09:06] <tsukasa> why the f does winrar see this as a rar file but unrar does not
[09:06] <tsukasa> argh
[09:06] <leo_rockw> terminal: yessir
[09:06] <ubuntu-007> hi
[09:06] <Dr_willis> tsukasa:  wine winrar.exe
[09:06] <joe_> Anyone here good with xserver?
[09:06] <leo_rockw> tsukasa: you could always use wine
[09:06] <terminal> leo_rockw; u r frm
[09:06] <leo_rockw> tsukasa: yeah, Dr_willis types faster than i do :-P
[09:06] <tsukasa> yes.. but... why T_T
[09:06] <ubuntu-007> i have installed and updated ubuntu 7.04 but i don't see any option to upgrade it to 7.10
[09:07] <Arenlor> can anyone help me with the issue I'm having here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=713359
[09:07] <leo_rockw> terminal: what?
[09:07] <GCtoday> I have typed in 'sudo passwrd' it is saying 'sudo: passwrd: command not found'.
[09:07] <NicDumZ> Unable to retrieve http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/libapache2-mod-php5_5.2.3-1ubuntu6.3_i386.deb  Connection to fr.archive.ubuntu.com: 80 (<IP_ADDRESS>) impossible. - connect (111 Forbidden)
[09:07] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: it's passwd
[09:07] <GCtoday> Oh
[09:07] <TrustNoOne> tsukasa, if you install winrar for linux from their site, archive manager should just recognize rar files and be able to compress/decompress them
[09:07] <zcat[1]> I would not recomend setting a password on he root login
[09:07] <pandora--> what's the best (safest) way to upgrade from feisty to gusty?
[09:07] <GCtoday> Okay got it
[09:08] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: actually, it's sudo passwd username
[09:08] <Starnestommy> where username is your user's name
[09:08] <TrustNoOne> zcat[1], it is only recommended not to set root pwd only to avoid using that account correct?
[09:08] <joe_> pandora: wipe your hard drive and install from a cd, with a spare pc available for problems
[09:09] <krz> hi
[09:09] <krz> i need to run photoshop, msword on linux. i dont like gimp or openoffice. how can i do this?
[09:09] <Starnestommy> krz: you could try wine
[09:09] <TrustNoOne> krz, use wine, msword 2003 works great on it (not later versions however) and photoshop works too
[09:09] <zcat[1]> crossover office, perhaps..
[09:09] <fourvees> crossover
[09:10] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> krz, #winehq
[09:10] <leo_rockw> krz: sudo like gimp and openoffice
[09:10] <pandora--> joe_: seriously? there's no way to upgrade?
[09:10] <TrustNoOne> krz, check winehq for a review of compatible MS programs with wine to see how well it works, in my experience, msword 2003 works great and so does some versions of photoshop
[09:10] <TrustNoOne> !wine | krz
[09:10] <ubotu> krz: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[09:10] <zcat[1]> if you're running more windowsprograms than free ones, this is a big hint that you probably should just stay running windows
[09:10] <krz> dont you have to pay for wine?
[09:10] <Starnestommy> krz: no
[09:10] <leo_rockw> krz: negative
[09:10] <ubuntu-007> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade not working for 7.04. any suggestions
[09:10] <krz> neat
[09:10] <TrustNoOne> !AppDB | krz
[09:10] <ubotu> krz: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:10] <zeel> r
[09:10] <Jafet> Usually. Especially if you get it from shops, and especially if it's old.
[09:10] <krz> anyone heard of http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/End-user_documentation ?
[09:10] <Arenlor> pandorra-- http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[09:11] <joe_> pandora-- well you said best
[09:11] <pandora--> thx
[09:11] <leo_rockw> Arenlor: http://xkcd.com/290/ segfaults are awful and unpredictable
[09:11] <Kirrika> Is there a known issue with azureus crashing immediately after startup?
[09:11] <leo_rockw> Kirrika: i heard of that before, checking launchpad might be a good idea
[09:11] <TrustNoOne> Kirrika, what versin of azureus
[09:12] <GCtoday> I have clearly stuffed up. New and old password too similar, new password too simple, Authentication token manipulation error, password unchanged. Sorry guys.
[09:12] <terminal> leo_rockw; how i do
[09:12] <simion314> hi, i ru a program called MonodDevelop with the command "make run" and i want to amke a script that will start this program, i am using this command but is not correct /home/simi/mono/MD/monodevelop/make run, the shell belives that make is a directory, can anyone help?
[09:12] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> krz, if u want to run windows apps that much, i really suggest u to just run windows
[09:12] <leo_rockw> terminal: install gparted... google gparted :-D
[09:13] <TrustNoOne> krz, yeah, wine does not run all windows apps that great, just some apps, which is why u check HQ for it, if u NEED certain apps to run, use windows
[09:13] <Kirrika> It appears to be 2.5
[09:13] <terminal> leo_rockw; i install it
[09:13] <fourvees> simion314 try putting a . (dot) in front of it and try
[09:13] <leo_rockw> terminal: don't forget to back up all critical info from the ntfs partition
[09:13] <Kirrika> I installed it from the repo, but it was working fine until a couple of days ago
[09:14] <leo_rockw> does anybody know of an application that will show me how my bandwith is being used?
[09:14] <terminal> leo_rockw;kkkkkkkkkkk
[09:15] <fourvees> hi kirrika which version of java are u using
[09:15] <krz> which is more popular distro unbuntu or pclinuxos?
[09:15] <Dr_willis> leo_rockw:  ntop can log and give out all sorts of info.. but it depeneds on your needs. :)
[09:15] <fourvees> is it gcj or sun jvm
[09:15] <Dr_willis> krz:  i think ubuntu.
[09:15] <zcat[1]> really frustrates me when people 'switch' to linux and then complain that their windows office, windows paintshop, windows games, etc... are too hard to get going!
[09:15] <TrustNoOne> Kirrika, for that versin of azureus i just make sure i have latest java and icedtea and then i download vuze tarball, extract to usr/share and run the script to start it up, i made shortcuts to that script for start menu
[09:15] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: just trying to find out which application is uploading a lot of stuff and making my connection really slow
[09:16] <krz> zcat[1] thats what im worried about
[09:16] <Toshio> leo, try bwm
[09:16] <TrustNoOne> Kirrika, if that doesnt work you can probably ask azureus team for help since they support linux, also try earlier version that is in synaptic for azureus which is 2.4
[09:16] <Dr_willis> leo_rockw:  Hmm..  You got other users? or just yoruself?
[09:16] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: just me
[09:16] <leo_rockw> Toshio: thank you Toshio, will do
[09:16] <nordland-iv> Yo, does anyone know how to make all of Xchat transparent?
[09:17] <Dr_willis> leo_rockw:  you got more apps uploading then you can keep track of? heh..
[09:17] <TrustNoOne> krz, if that is what you are worried about either A.) do not switch to linux or B.) dual boot linux and windows so you can use both
[09:17] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: no, that's the thing, i should only have 1 app __really__ uploading
[09:17] <krz> TrustNoOne what the point of using both?
[09:17] <zcat[1]> krz: Linux doesn't run windows programs particularly well.. It's rather an achievement that it can run them at all... if you want to run windows programs painlessly we'd prefer you just stick with windows thanks.. it will save you and us a lot of frustration
[09:17] <terminal> leo_rockw; i format a partition 5 gb frm ntfs to ext 3
[09:17] <nordland-iv> lol
[09:18] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: i limited ktorrent to see if that helped, but i keep sending a lot, so i'm a lil worried, lol
[09:18] <leo_rockw> terminal: yeah, you might want to look for a manual for gparted in your language
[09:18] <Dr_willis> leo_rockw:  i normally throttle down ktorrent to 5-10k/s
[09:18] <Toshio> krz, have a look at ReactOS if you need Windows compatibility _and_ free OS at the same time
[09:18] <nordland-iv> Yo
[09:18] <nordland-iv> You 1337 fuckers
[09:18] <TrustNoOne> krz, because you can not get all windows programs that you might need, to work on linux properly, its not meant for linux. if that is the case, either do not use linux, or you can use both
[09:18] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: i limited it to 3k/s
[09:19] <leo_rockw> !ohmy | nordland-iv
[09:19] <ubotu> nordland-iv: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[09:19] <kevin_> does anyone here dual-boot with windows, use ntfs-3g and upon running chkdsk in windows, get a message about deleting indexes from a file 25?
[09:19] <nordland-iv> any of you have a completely transparent xchat?
[09:19] <terminal> leo_rockw; i want to add this prtition in my previous ext 3 partition how i do this
[09:19] <TrustNoOne> krz, so when you boot up if you need to work on photoshop go to windows, or if you wanna play around go on linux... but if thats too much trouble, probably good idea to just stick with windows if you need msword and photoshop and other windows apps working properly
[09:19] <Saint`Diamond> Just install windows and run virtualbox for linux.
[09:19] <leo_rockw> terminal: not sure, sorry
[09:19] <ubuntu-007> how can i watch catv on ubuntu
[09:19] <zcat[1]> nordland-iv: completely transparent? how do you read it?
[09:20] <nordland-iv> dude guys, OpenOffice owns MSword anyways
[09:20] <TrustNoOne> krz, because ur only other choice is to use linux alternatives like gimp instead of photoshop and openoffice instead of msword
[09:20] <leo_rockw> Toshio: bmw shows the total up and down, not what i was looking for but thank you.
[09:20] <ubuntu-007> is there any player for it.
[09:20] <luke403> do any of you guys know anything about samba?
[09:20] <Saint`Diamond> Gimp's pretty good. Corel for the win!
[09:20] <leo_rockw> or krita and koffice ;-)
[09:20] <Dr_willis> Gimp saves me $$$ - gimp for the win.
[09:20] <leo_rockw> !samba | luke403
[09:20] <ubotu> luke403: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[09:20] <TrustNoOne> ya im not a fan of photo edit software, its confusing
[09:21] <fourvees> krz, have u used the alternativies
[09:21] <zcat[1]> I've always done everything in Gimp.. I tried to use photoshop once and ended up installing gimp 'cos I couldn't be bothered learning the differences
[09:21] <TrustNoOne> fourvees, i believe krz said earlier that he didnt like the alternatives
[09:21] <TrustNoOne> fourvees, at least for openoffice i think
[09:21] <krz> fourvees yea, gimp crashes a lot, and i dont trust openoffice format to msword all that well
[09:21] <leo_rockw> zcat[1]: that's usually why people coming from photoshop don't want to learn the gimp, the differences
[09:21] <holli> hi folks
[09:21] <nordland-iv> Anyone here experienced with "Blender" ???
[09:22] <zcat[1]> so I guess gimp is different from photoshop, and probably just as hard going the other way
[09:22] <leo_rockw> krz: LOL
[09:22] <leo_rockw> nordland-iv: i do
[09:22] <GCtoday> Okay I used the install command 'E: Couldn't find package irssi'.
[09:22] <nordland-iv> how do you Pm?
[09:22] <luke403> i have a nother problem in ubuntu, it wont let me edit my config file because i dont have permissions and also i cant change any drive premissions for some reason.  i have admin privliges
[09:22] <nordland-iv> I'm new to XChat
[09:22] <GCtoday> It is on my desktop now
[09:22] <nordland-iv> and pretty new to Ubuntu itself
[09:22] <Starnestommy> nordland-iv: /msg user message
[09:22] <leo_rockw> nordland-iv: /msg nickname message
[09:22] <nordland-iv> gotcha, thanks guys
[09:22] <Jafet> Would libgl1-mesa-glx replace nvidia-glx?
[09:22] <zcat[1]> I go to photoshop presentations and then come home and figure out how to do exactly the same thing in gimp :)
[09:22] <leo_rockw> nordland-iv: you need a registered username, tho
[09:23] <fiksi> tes
[09:23] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: do you have the universe repository enabled in System > Administration > Software Sources?
[09:23] <TrustNoOne> zcat[1], that means you have lots of free time
[09:23] <leo_rockw> krz: you can't say you trust .doc better than odf
[09:23] <zcat[1]> too much free time :)
[09:23] <TrustNoOne> zcat[1], not all of us are so fortunate
[09:23] <holli> quck question: i've just run " apt-get install gcc-4.0" which worked, hoewever there still is no "cc" command. what am i missing?
[09:24] <zcat[1]> TrustNoOne: presumably it took you some time to learn photoshop..
[09:24] <sugoruyo> hi folks, can someone help me with some fstab questions?
[09:24] <krz> leo_rockw no i mean if im working on a resume on openoffice and have to save it as .doc to send to employers, i dont want them recieving some dosument that has the format all messed up
[09:24] <TrustNoOne> zcat[1], no, because i didnt learn gimp or photoshop, i learned paint and thats about it, thats how simple i am
[09:24] <GCtoday> I have a whole bunch of tabs on that window.
[09:24] <Toshio> !ask | suroguyo
[09:24] <ubotu> suroguyo: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:24] <fourvees> i will export it as a pdf and send te\hem
[09:25] <Jafet> holli, make a symlink from cc to gcc?
[09:25] <TrustNoOne> zcat[1], u should check youtube for thi funny video series called "you suck at photoshop" this guy teaches photoshop in a hilarious way
[09:25] <ubuntu-007> !ask | ubuntu-007
[09:26] <TrustNoOne> !ask | ubuntu-007
[09:26] <ubotu> ubuntu-007: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:26] <TrustNoOne> lol
[09:26] <ubuntu-007> ;p
[09:26] <Starnestommy> GCtoday: check under "Ubuntu Software" for "Community-maintained Open Source software"
[09:26] <GCtoday> Okay crossed
[09:26] <holli> Jafet: as far as i can tell there is no cc command and no gcc
[09:26] <Toshio> Q: What's the easiest way to open up a port but only have it accessible from a remote location defined by way of dynamic DNS (someoneitrust.dyndns.org)?
[09:27] <Jafet> holli, then it seems that you haven't installed gcc.
[09:27] <SliMM> does anyone have a usb voip phone
[09:27] <SliMM> ?
[09:27] <zcat[1]> !b-e | holli
[09:27] <ubotu> holli: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[09:27] <TrustNoOne> 0.o
[09:28]  * holli wines
[09:28] <holli> i cannot compile if i have no compiler
[09:28] <Y-Town> anyone able to tell me how to redo x server with KDE?  I did a system update and once complete my nvidia created a problem
[09:28] <Jafet> Why not just apt-get install gcc
[09:28] <zcat[1]> holli: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:28] <Starnestommy> holli: is build-essential installed?
[09:28] <Toshio> holli, do a "which gcc"
[09:29] <zcat[1]> Ummm.. if cc and gcc don't work... probably not installed?
[09:29] <holli> yay
[09:29] <holli> build-essential
[09:29] <holli> thank you
[09:29] <holli> but why was that no dependeny for the the gcc-4 package?
[09:30] <zcat[1]> b-e has gcc and lots of standard headers and stuff.. you might also need -dev packages if your program links to other libraries
[09:30]  * leo_rockw wonders why build-essential doesn't come bundled in a default ubuntu install
[09:30] <Y-Town> anyone know how to rebuild x server using KDE?
[09:30] <holli> all i want is getting CPAN to install XS modules
[09:30] <sugoruyo> i'm running 7.10 and i just had a HFS+ formatted ext. hdd crash on me (well the usb on the case anyway) so i stuck in my pc to read my files off it. I open h/w info and it says that disk is /dev/sdb, my windows hdd is /dev/sda and my linux hdd is /dev/sdc. Now that's all good except fstab seems to disagree. in fstab my windows partitions are referred to correctly but the linux stuff is referred to as being in /dev/sdb. If I try to mount my
[09:30] <sugoruyo> mac formatted partitions manually it works as /dev/sdb so wtf?! is going on?
[09:30] <Jafet> Bleh, I'm installing nvidia-glx-new again to see if the system stalls again.
[09:31] <zcat[1]> leo_rockw: because we don't expect most users to build from source.. otherwise they'd go run gentoo ..
[09:31] <leo_rockw> zcat[1]: yeah, but it's not a considerably heavy package, it could be there by default
[09:31] <LimCore> hello
[09:31] <LimCore> anyone have evolution program here?
[09:32] <zcat[1]> leo_rockw: but then there'd be less room for mono :)
[09:32] <LimCore> anyone uses evolution?
[09:32] <ubuntu-007> LimCore: i do
[09:32] <leo_rockw> zcat[1]: ¬¬ are you friends with de icaza? lol
[09:32] <zcat[1]> damn monkeys..
[09:32] <krz> so what do you guys think? i only need the following programs to run on linux and i can switch: msoffice, photoshop, illustrator
[09:32] <krz> you think wine will support these well enough?
[09:32] <leo_rockw> krz: are you going to pay for all those licenses?
[09:33] <zcat[1]> I removed fspot, tomboy and everything with 'mono' in the name off this desktop... filthy MSFT technology :)
[09:33] <leo_rockw> zcat[1]: lol, good job
[09:33] <Jafet> zcat[1], why use Ubuntu then.
[09:33] <Seveas> zcat[1], mono is novell technology
[09:33] <zcat[1]> Yeah, I probably should just use debian
[09:33] <zcat[1]> it's an implimentation of .net which is utterly msft
[09:34] <Jafet> Debian is based off Red Hat as well.
[09:34] <zcat[1]> otoh I use smb ... but msft didn't actually invent that :)
[09:34] <Jafet> You want a One True Unix, go for a BSD.
[09:34] <leo_rockw> zcat[1]: and they get a lot of lawsuits :-P
[09:34] <flowOver> i didn't think debian was based off redhat
[09:34] <flowOver> shocking
[09:34] <leo_rockw> Jafet: or ututo, my country's distro
[09:34] <Seveas> flowOver, it isn't
[09:34] <zcat[1]> I've run FreeBSD for a year or so.. I prefer linux
[09:34] <flowOver> thought so
[09:34] <Seveas> jafet's talking nonsense :)
[09:35] <leo_rockw> ututo is 100% free
[09:35] <Seveas> zcat[1], debian has mono/tomboy/fspot/banshee too :)
[09:35] <krz> leo_rockw well, not really ;)
[09:35] <leo_rockw> krz: then you're better off using OO.o and the gimp
[09:35] <Jafet> Seveas, er wait, I got something wrong somewhere then.
[09:36] <wizo> hey, what can i use to open images?
[09:36] <zcat[1]> wizo: eog
[09:36] <zcat[1]> or gimp if you want to edit them
[09:36] <Seveas> eog, f-spot, gimp, gthumb, display, firefox
[09:36] <wizo> ahh, cause right now i've gotta double click using the graphical interface
[09:36] <leo_rockw> wizo: gwenview
[09:36] <wizo> so i was wondering what program is opening it
[09:36] <gamerdude> anyone know why all the links to download ubuntu alpha 6 are dead? and anyone know of a place to get it?
[09:36] <Seveas> mirage
[09:36] <GCtoday> E: Package irssi has no installation candidate.  Before that. Package irssi is not available, but is referred to by another package.  This may mean that the package is missing, had been obsoleted, or is only available from another source.
[09:37] <flowOver> just last week i thought it was hilarious seeing distro's built on ubuntu thats built on debian.  that would've been disappointingly hilarious if debian were based off redhat
[09:37] <zcat[1]> wizo: I think that's eog (eye of gnome)
[09:37] <GCtoday> That doesn't sound terribly good
[09:37] <Jafet> Must've been thinking about Fedora.
[09:37] <Seveas> gamerdude, wait a few days and get the beta
[09:37] <leo_rockw> GCtoday: apt-cache search irssi
[09:37] <wizo> zcat[1]: ah ok, thanks
[09:37] <terminal> leo_rockw; how i mount a partition frm gparted
[09:37] <Seveas> GCtoday, sounds like a broken sources.list
[09:37] <flowOver> i'm not a totally naive nub, but a nub none the less
[09:37] <Slart> gamerdude: ask in #ubuntu+1 .. that's the place to ask about hardy stuff
[09:37] <flowOver> i almost got caught
[09:37] <leo_rockw> terminal: you don't mount it, if you use gparted on a mounted partition you destroy it
[09:37] <gamerdude> thanks slart and seveas
[09:38] <legend2440> wizo: right click image file>properties>open with
[09:38] <Slart> terminal: you can right click on a partion in gparted and mount it.. but you might have to create an entry in fstab first.. not sure though
[09:38] <nordland-iv> how do you register!?
[09:38] <Slart> !register
[09:38] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.
[09:39] <terminal> slart ;how to create a entery
[09:39] <leo_rockw> Slart: you don't mount partitions to work on them w/ gparted. that's why the livecd is so useful for that stuff
[09:39] <flowOver> The new gnome i was reading has compositing without compiz.  How can I install it?
[09:40] <terminal> slart ;how to create a entry i fstab
[09:40] <Seveas> flowOver, upgrade to hardy and read the gnome 2.22 relase notes to find out how to enable it
[09:40] <fourvees> gedit /etc/fstab
[09:40] <Slart> leo_rockw: who said anything about working on them in gparted.. he asked how to mount a partition in gparted..or did I miss some part of the conversation?
[09:40] <Slart> !fstab
[09:40] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:40] <Seveas> flowOver, but beware that hardy is still alpha
[09:40] <Seveas> !hardy | flowOver
[09:40] <ubotu> flowOver: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[09:41] <leo_rockw> Slart: he's trying to convert the free space of an ntfs partition into ext3
[09:41] <holli> how do i find out which ubuntu i'm currently running?
[09:41] <terminal> slart ;how to create a entry i fstab
[09:41] <Slart> leo_rockw: ahh.. my bad.. just checked my log... you're right.. I'll go sit in the corner... without dessert.. =)
[09:42] <Dr_willis> lsb_release -a holli
[09:42] <terminal> slart ;how to create a entry in  fstab
[09:42] <terminal> slart ;how to create a entry in  fstab
[09:42] <flowOver> i think i'll just totally reinstall to hardy then.  i don't trust an upgrade on this install with all the wild command line mods i've done to this trying to get it stable.
[09:42] <leo_rockw> Slart: and pray to st. iGNUcius!
[09:42] <GCtoday> irssi-plugin-icq - ICQ plugin for irssi, Irssi-plugin-silc - SILCplugin for irssi, irssi-scripts - Collection of scripts for irssi, irssi-text - irssi dumby transition package, libconfig-auto-perl - magical file config parser, pidgin-plugin-pack - 30 useful plugins for pidgin, silc - terminal based SILC client.
[09:42] <Slart> seriously, terminal.. do you really thing repeating yourself every 5 secs will get you help faster..
[09:43] <zcat[1]> flowOver: I usually end up doing that .. pretty easy if you have a seperate /home and know all the programs you want installed afterwards
[09:43] <holli> thanks. 6.06. now, is there an easy way to upgrade a running system to something newer?
[09:43] <bazhang> !fstab
[09:43] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[09:43] <bazhang> see above terminal
[09:43] <holli> a remote server, btw
[09:43] <terminal> slart ;sryyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:44] <zcat[1]> zZzZ (10:45pm)
[09:44] <luke40341> can you guys help me with samba. i got it installed and swat is up and running.  When i try to put a file on the network drive (the ubuntu drive) it wont let me i can however read it
[09:44] <fourvees> hi luke make sure you have given enough permisions
[09:45] <GCtoday> Oh and I missed ekg - console Gadu Gadu client for Unix systems
[09:45] <GCtoday> Sorry about that.
[09:45] <luke40341> fourvees in swat i read only set to NO.
[09:45] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: i closed ktorrent and my readings are normal, perhaps ktorrent wasn't limiting correctly (?)
[09:45] <Dr_willis> luke403:  you did give the linux users a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME'
[09:45] <leo_rockw> Dr_willis: thanks for your help :-D
[09:46] <fourvees> what is the entry that is present in /etv/samba/sm.conf
[09:46] <flowOver> zcat[1] - i've intended to reinstall since the beginning.   this time i think i will setup a seperate /home.  thats a great idea!
[09:46] <Dr_willis> leo_rockw:  Possibly It may of kept older connections open.
[09:46] <bazhang> terminal: did you read that link?
[09:46] <luke40341> no
[09:46] <nicolinux> #generation-linux.fr
[09:46] <leo_rockw> nicolinux: spamspamspam! (i <3 python)
[09:46] <luke40341> will that let me write from windows?
[09:46] <terminal> bazhang; ya
[09:46] <fourvees> yes luke it will
[09:47] <luke40341> okay
[09:47] <luke40341> i will try it
[09:47] <krz> leo_rockw lets say i have the trial licenses for those software, can i run them on wine?
[09:47] <Dr_willis> luke40341:  i always just share the users home dirs. and give them samba passwords.
[09:47] <leo_rockw> krz: that's a maybe
[09:48] <leo_rockw> krz: check winehq... but the best way to tell is to actually try it
[09:48] <flowOver> krz:  you can't run the cracked exe on wine.  they have to be properly authenticated
[09:48] <TitraxX> hi
[09:48] <krz> flowOver damn
[09:48] <flowOver> so if you have a serial that authenticates, yes you can
[09:48] <krz> oh
[09:48] <moah> hello alltogether
[09:49] <flowOver> i just run cs3 in a vm
[09:49] <luke40341> Dr_willis are you saying in samba make users for all the people that will be connecting to the server
[09:49] <leo_rockw> flowOver: and you're proud of that!? lol
[09:49] <moah> has anyone here encountered a problem with ubuntu cds not booting on a somewhat older computer, while other distributions (and windows) do boot without a problem?
[09:50] <krz> flowOver ive only got one gig on my laptop, is that enough to run a vm?
[09:50] <GCtoday> What do I do next?
[09:50] <flowOver> who said i'm proud?  its just easier to run in a vm
[09:50] <fourvees> hi luke in /etc/samba/smbusers file there will be mapping between unix and windows name
[09:50] <leo_rockw> moah: define problem
[09:50] <flowOver> krz- possibly.  it'd hit the system good but i think it'd be done.  i only have 2
[09:50] <wookienz> hi guys,i think my harddrive may have some physical errors... what linux command can i sue to check it and mark them as bad?
[09:50] <luke40341> okay
[09:51] <moah> leo_rockw: ubuntu cd does not boot, other cds boot.
[09:51] <flowOver> i give xp 512
[09:51] <leo_rockw> wookienz: fsck (but not when the partition is mounted)
[09:51] <krz> wookienz its not worth sueing anyone for physical errors in linux
[09:51] <Arelis> which is the best virtualization program?
[09:51] <flowOver> moah - did you check the image for integrity before burning it?
[09:51] <wookienz> krz: ?
[09:51] <leo_rockw> moah: define "does not boot" do you get a menu at all?
[09:52] <wookienz> leo_rockw: if it is the main HDD any other way i can check it?
[09:52] <moah> leo_rockw: it is a somewhat older computer (4-5 years), so could it be that modern ubuntu cds use something this old computer does not support any more?
[09:52] <fourvees> arelies it depends, virtualbox, xen ...
[09:52] <leo_rockw> wookienz: livecd
[09:52] <wookienz> ahh
[09:52] <moah> leo_rockw: no, the computer simply ignores the CD and proceeds to boot the installed system.
[09:52] <leo_rockw> moah: could be, but you should at least be getting the menu
[09:52] <YAKSKLMM> slmm
[09:52] <leo_rockw> moah: ooo, ok, that's why i was asking
[09:53] <YAKSKLMM> okey
[09:53] <leo_rockw> moah: woah, that's weird... i'd do an image integrity check like flowOver suggested
[09:53] <moah> leo_rockw: yes, it does not even reckognize cd as bootable, i suppose.
[09:54] <leo_rockw> moah: did you try it on any other comp?
[09:54] <legend2440> GCtoday: youstill trying to install irssi?
[09:54] <flowOver> krz: HAH!
[09:54] <moah> leo_rockw: i didnt do any integrity checks yet, but this behaviour repeated with several ubuntu releases in the last past year.
[09:54] <lieve> hi, I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54G wireless adapter to work. I've installed the Windows driver in ndiswrapper, and ndiswrapper -l says that the device is present
[09:54] <lieve> lspci finds the device and everything
[09:54] <lieve> but it doesn't show up in ifconfig, the only interfaces I can find in ifcnfig are eth0 and lo
[09:55] <flowOver> moah: it may just be corruption from connection you have with the server
[09:55] <lieve> any ideas?
[09:55] <leo_rockw> moah: you may want to report a bug then
[09:55] <flowOver> check the md5 sums on the bins and use the torrent download
[09:56] <moah> flowOver: I'll do the file checks before i report a bug, but i dont think i messed up the download several times just with ubuntu.
[09:56] <moah> ok, thanks.
[09:56] <moah> I hoed that this kind of bug maybe already was known.
[09:56] <flowOver> and the cd not booting is not an issue with ubuntu
[09:56] <GCtoday> I'll stop by again later, thanks for all your help thus far.
[09:56] <leo_rockw> moah: you could check launchpad
[09:57] <moah> flowOver: it is an issue with ubuntu, since other distros (and windwos) boot, but ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu do not.
[09:57] <flowOver> if it only proceeds to your system instead of recognizing the disc, it's your system.  their isn't many different ways to set up a disc to boot
[09:57] <Seveas> lieve, ifconfig -a
[09:58] <flowOver> either that or the image is off
[09:58] <flowOver> or you're burning it wrong
[09:58] <moah> flowOver: yet, but even if its my system (i thought it is maybe to old or such things) the problem occurs only with ubuntu as of now.
[09:58] <thedefender> anyone have any experience with xrandr and the open source ATI driver with dual heads
[09:59] <leo_rockw> moah: did you ever try a canonical live cd?
[09:59] <moah> flowOver: no, i burned several other distros the same way, and there were no probs.
[09:59] <rinaldi_> lieve: have you activated the module? do "depmod -a" if there is no errors, do "modprobe ndiswrapper"
[09:59] <moah> leo_rockw: yes, the normal ubuntu release iso.
[09:59] <leo_rockw> moah: i mean shipit cds
[09:59] <moah> um, no, not yet.
[10:00] <fiksi> halo. does easyubuntu works the same way as automatix?
[10:00] <moah> but thanks anyway. I think I'll first do the md5 check and then report a bug.
[10:01] <hyw> hi
[10:01] <flowOver> what's with landscape?  i guess canonical really does just have one perogative.
[10:01] <hyw> Can I install 7.04 then update to 7.10?
[10:02] <Seveas> fiksi, yes, they both destroy your system
[10:02] <fiksi> ??
[10:02] <legend2440> fiksi:  pretty muc the same but easyubintu is no longer maintained  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[10:03] <fiksi> owh
[10:03] <Seveas> fiksi, they have both destroyed lots of systems, better not use them
[10:03] <Seveas> it's not at all needed
[10:03] <fiksi> so i better un installed them, seveas?
[10:03] <Seveas> yes
[10:03] <Seveas> and if you have used automatix, you should not count on any support :)
[10:03] <fiksi> ok
[10:04] <fiksi> yeah
[10:04] <fiksi> i think something wrong with those things
[10:05] <fiksi> if i uninstalled automatix, what happen to my other application which i have installed through automatix?
[10:05] <Seveas> fiksi, ugh, so you used it....
[10:05] <Seveas> fiksi, they won't be removed but there's a non-trivial chance that automatix broke other parts of your system
[10:05] <Seveas> it's notorious for that
[10:05] <thedefender> anyone have any experience with xrandr and the open source ATI driver with dual heads
[10:06] <leo_rockw> isn't the automatix team working along w/ ubuntu now?
[10:06] <fiksi> seveas, which system?my application-automatix-installed?
[10:06] <thedefender> would like to use grandr but it doesn't seem to work
[10:06] <Seveas> fiksi, other parts of ubuntu
[10:07] <Seveas> leo_rockw, depends on what you call working :)
[10:07] <fiksi> so, i better not to uninstalled automatix?neither use it?
[10:07] <legend2440> Seveas: i have a question about envy. i have ati radeon 9600 and i have never had success installing proprietary drivers manually. but envy has always succeeded. so why is it not recommended?
[10:07] <mafia> is there room for hackers ?
[10:07] <leo_rockw> Seveas: idk, that's why i'm asking, something i read recently in the blogospehre
[10:07] <Seveas> fiksi, better uninstall it
[10:07] <Seveas> legend2440, because it also tends to break random things
[10:07] <Seveas> !worksforme | legend2440
[10:07] <ubotu> legend2440: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[10:07] <leo_rockw> mafia: lemme check... no, we're booked till late september
[10:08] <Seveas> !automatix | fiksi
[10:08] <ubotu> fiksi: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[10:08] <mafia> ty :)
[10:08] <flowOver> what's ubuntu studio all about?  I didn't see before when i downloaded gutsy.  it's in the list for hardy though.
[10:08] <mafia> and also no for spammers ?
[10:08] <leo_rockw> mafia: you may stay for the cake, tho
[10:08] <Seveas> mafia, spammers will be shot on sight
[10:08] <leo_rockw> mafia: if by spam you mean "monty python"
[10:08] <Seveas> !ubuntustudio | flowOver
[10:08] <ubotu> flowOver: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[10:09] <flowOver> oo neat :)  sealed deal
[10:09] <mafia> i mean spam bank logins like bank of america wells wachovia lol
[10:09] <thedefender> flowover: the Realtime kernel is key for the audio part of studio
[10:09] <icesword> !compiz
[10:09] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[10:10] <mafia> حد بيتكلم عربى
[10:10] <leo_rockw> mafia: oh yeah, we shoot those on sight... where's that snipper thingy now...?
[10:10] <david_J> My internet is wireless(not my choice)
[10:10] <Seveas> mafia, english please.
[10:10] <mafia> ok sorry
[10:10] <Seveas> !ot | mafia
[10:10] <ubotu> mafia: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:10] <fiksi> seveas, is there anything i can do to prevent my other part broken when i uninstaled automatix?
[10:10] <flowOver> oh! the theme is full of way more awesome
[10:11] <david_J> I want to use scp to copy files between 2 laptops, but I want to use a wired network via crossover
[10:11] <krz> flowOver what if its not about running the cracked exe on wine, but replacing some files (cracked dll's) in the installation dir. will that run?
[10:11] <leo_rockw> mafia: if you have a question or are willing to help, then you're welcomed here, if not, go away.
[10:11] <Seveas> fiksi, uninstalling the thing won't break more things
[10:11] <mafia> ok man
[10:11] <icesword> !info compiz
[10:11] <ubotu> compiz (source: compiz): OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.6.0+git20071008-0ubuntu1.1 (gutsy), package size 30 kB, installed size 64 kB
[10:11] <david_J> Can I have the two coinside?
[10:11] <Seveas> leo_rockw, not so harsh!
[10:11] <tocmo0nlord> i was going to ask a question
[10:11] <fiksi> ok
[10:11] <fiksi> thank you
[10:11] <tocmo0nlord> but i totaly forgot
[10:11] <david_J> Will I have to tell ssh what ip address to listen to?
[10:11] <leo_rockw> krz: asking help to crack a win app is not a good idea
[10:11] <flowOver> krz: nope.  i didn't realize the crack was dll's.  i just assumed they were exe's.  dll's are executed libraries though so you're sol.  buy software.  don't pirate ;)
[10:11] <mafia> i have question my cam open only at even days
[10:11] <Seveas> david_J, only with manual configuration, not eith the current network manager
[10:12] <mafia> how can i make it work all days
[10:12] <icesword> hello
[10:12] <flowOver> i do believe adobe gives out trial licences though
[10:12] <icesword> guys
[10:12] <leo_rockw> Seveas: well, he's clearly just here to mess around
[10:12] <icesword> how do i install compiz,sudo apt-get install compiz?
[10:12] <Seveas> leo_rockw, yeah
[10:12] <david_J> I have both cards set up different ips
[10:12] <david_J> I can ping between the computers
[10:12] <david_J> but scp just hangs
[10:12] <david_J> I can access the outside internet
[10:12] <thedefender> flowOver: if themes is your thing try installing sudo apt-get install gnome-art usplash startupmanager
[10:13] <Seveas> icesword, on hardy it's installed by default, on gutsy that command should do it
[10:13] <leo_rockw> flowOver: and the ubuntu calendar ;-)
[10:13] <icesword> Seveas:k,thx
[10:13] <thedefender> flowOver: comes with a boat load of cool stuff
[10:14] <icesword> !info emerald
[10:14] <ubotu> emerald (source: emerald): Decorator for compiz-fusion. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3~git20070717-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 198 kB, installed size 956 kB
[10:14] <thedefender> flowOVer: plus you will need starupmanager to help you in grub cause the Realtime kernel of studio
[10:14] <flowOver> btdt :)  i was just stoked that the default theme is way cooler
[10:15] <thedefender> I hate ATI......just gotta say it
[10:15] <flowOver> the only default part of this computer left is the filemenu icon and it flashes that skin beige between login and desktop.
[10:15] <leo_rockw> thedefender: AMD is taking care of it, don't worry
[10:15] <david_J> DOH! it was my firewall
[10:15] <david_J> It is transfering much quicker now
[10:15] <david_J> :)!
[10:15] <leo_rockw> david_J: haha, congrats
[10:16] <tocmo0nlord> why is ubuntu so kick ass ?
[10:16] <david_J> IPTABLES annoys me lol
[10:16] <thedefender> leo_rockw: I've been screwing around with that damn FGLRX every month. I am tired of it, so now I'm trying to figure Xrandr and the open source ATI driver
[10:16] <daizisheng> I always liked FLAG DAY!!
[10:16] <thedefender> tocmoOnlord: cause it allows you to stick it to the MAN for FREE
[10:16] <leo_rockw> thedefender: unfortunately the open source driver doesn't work for me at all
[10:17] <leo_rockw> thedefender: AMD released the specs, so luckily a new open source driver will come out soon
[10:17] <bazhang> daizisheng: nice; do you have a support question?
[10:17] <daizisheng> It's the RINSE CYCLE!!  They've ALL IGNORED the RINSE CYCLE!!
[10:17] <flowOver> is the hardy studio up to alpha 6?
[10:17] <bazhang> !ot | daizisheng
[10:17] <daizisheng> I will establish the first SHOPPING MALL in NUTLEY, New Jersey...
[10:17] <ubotu> daizisheng: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:17] <daizisheng> Is the EIGHTIES when they had ART DECO and GERALD McBOING-BOING lunch boxes??
[10:17] <tocmo0nlord> thedefender whoa hey there hold on, im not sticking it to any man
[10:17] <mmcji> having problem, i am getting sound coming out of my laptop speakers when i have headphones plugged in
[10:17] <bazhang> daizisheng: please stop
[10:17] <daizisheng> Now I'm telling MISS PIGGY about MONEY MARKET FUNDS!
[10:17] <mmcji> i am using a dell inspiron 1520
[10:17] <bazhang> !ops | daizisheng
[10:17] <daizisheng> I'm a GENIUS!  I want to dispute sentence structure with SUSAN SONTAG!!
[10:17] <ubotu> daizisheng: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[10:17] <daizisheng> Someone in DAYTON, Ohio is selling USED CARPETS to a SERBO-CROATIAN!!
 theres already a shopping mall in nuttley
[10:18] <daizisheng> I'm a GENIUS!  I want to dispute sentence structure with SUSAN SONTAG!!
 or is that clifton ?
[10:18] <icesword> ...
[10:18] <mmcji> any suggestions?
[10:18] <tocmo0nlord> butt sex!
[10:19] <Seveas> tweet tweet
[10:19] <prince_jammys> :)
[10:19] <bazhang> cuckoo
[10:19] <prince_jammys> strange goings on here
[10:19] <thedefender> leo_rockw: i've got resolution problems, it can't seem to tell how to configure both my heads, even if they do get FGLRX up and running bug free, I still don't know how I will enable the module for the RT kernel
[10:20] <mmcji> and am running xubuntu 7.10
[10:20] <Seveas> prince_jammys, must be the phase of the moon
[10:20] <BaD_CrC> is there a chan dedicated to "server" and "jeos" releases?
[10:20] <prince_jammys> #ubuntu-server
[10:20] <Seveas> BaD_CrC, there's #ubuntu-server
[10:20] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server and #jeos perhaps?
[10:20] <Seveas> and I think there's a #jeos as well
[10:20] <Seveas> could be #ubuntu-jeos
[10:21] <BaD_CrC> not #u-jeos
[10:21] <bazhang> no #jeos it seems
[10:21] <thedefender> does anyone know if XGL still has the annoying problem of suddenly crashing then restarting X
[10:21] <bazhang> thedefender: using compiz?
[10:21]  * laypeople 双手抱拳，作了个揖道：各位内行哈髅阿！
[10:21] <thedefender> bazhang: yes
[10:21] <thedefender> bazhang:  of course
[10:21] <Seveas> !ch | laypeople
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <BaD_CrC> well, what i was wondering is, is it possible to setup the restricted manager in CLI mode to use wireless drivers?
[10:22] <Seveas> !cn | laypeople
[10:22] <ubotu> laypeople: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[10:22] <bazhang> #compiz-fusion can sort you thedefender
[10:22] <thedefender> bazhang:  its not a compiz-fusion problem, its a fglrx and XGL problem
[10:22] <BaD_CrC> i want to setup a media extender box, but i don't want X or anything bloated installed.
[10:23] <bazhang> thedefender: well they know the most about xgl; it is sparsely populated here at the moment so you can wait for answer in either place; perhaps put a mesage up there and then post here every so often
[10:23] <thedefender> Bad_Crc: what do you mean by media extender, if you mean a media server there are plenty of ways to do that with mythTV, and there are several linux distros which are made to be just that
[10:24] <BaD_CrC> thedefender: avoiding mythtv
[10:24] <thedefender> bazhang: i guess your an Nvidia user huh
[10:24] <BaD_CrC> thedefender: i'm thinking more along the lines of web based with apache
[10:25] <bazhang> thedefender: aye
[10:25] <Seveas> BaD_CrC, you only need mpd and/or icecast :)
[10:25] <icesword> bazhang:to install compiz ,command is sudo apt-get install compiz,right?
[10:25] <BaD_CrC> Seveas: not for WAN consumption. :)
[10:25] <thedefender> Bad_CrC: and all you want is to be able to? store media, stream it to other pc's? or what
[10:25] <bazhang> icesword: for gutsy? then it is sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:26] <icesword> bazhang:yes,gutsy,thank you,
[10:26] <bazhang> icesword: mei wenti ;]
[10:26] <lesshaste> I am trying to upgrade to ubuntu-docs 7.10.5 and it has just stopped on "Setting up ubuntu-docs" with more or less 100% cpu usage going
[10:26] <lesshaste> top says scrollkeeper-up is running
[10:26] <lesshaste> what should I do?
[10:27] <BaD_CrC> thedefender: yeah, just a light file server, samba for windows access, apache for my crazy php goodness, mysql or postgresql for the database backend.
[10:27] <thedefender> i'm thinking about giving up and just running ubuntu's outdated (yet stable) FGLRX and then XGL. I had the least graphics problems with that setup but got plagued by random and unprovoked crashes
[10:27] <kleth> lesshaste: I got the same prob yesterday. But I just gave it some time, and it did finish after a while
[10:27] <lesshaste> kleth: oh ok.. is there a reported bug for this do you know?
[10:27] <thedefender> everything looked beautiful though
[10:28] <lesshaste> thedefender: what's the problem?
[10:28] <kleth> lesshaste, no idea, but don't think so. It works, it just take quite a time
[10:28] <lesshaste> kleth: that seems a little buggy and also I notice there is no "cancel" button at this point
[10:28] <kleth> lesshaste, true, I guess it could be fixed
[10:29] <kleth> lesshaste, but I dont know if there a bugreport on it
[10:29] <lesshaste> kleth: ok thanks
[10:29] <BaD_CrC> well, i guess i could do a net install of debian with nothing selected except LAMP stuffs...
[10:30] <thedefender> lesshaste: well I wanted to run the open source ATI since its used by default, plus it automatically works in the RT-kernel. I'm running dual heads on a ATI 9800 Pro (R350) and I am having trouble getting Xrandr to work correctly. Also notice some OpenGL issues with screensavers, but compiz runs great.
[10:30] <sap> Hi, I've made a static ip for the computer under an account which has root priviliges . However, the network settings cannot be accessed from other user accounts and the ip remains dynamic on those accounts. How can I make the changes global i.e. set the ip static for all those other accounts also?
[10:30] <kleth> lesshaste, np, just let it do the work, catch a cup of coffee or something, then it will suddenly  finish
[10:30] <lesshaste> thedefender: ah ok.. I use fglrx and it seems to work perfectly.. so gar
[10:30] <lesshaste> far
[10:30] <lesshaste> kleth: :)
[10:30] <lesshaste> thedefender: have you reported a bug?
[10:30] <thedefender> lesshaste: what card, are you running dual heads, and compiz
[10:31] <lesshaste> thedefender: not dual head.. it radeon express 200
[10:32] <thedefender> lesshaste: and the latest FGLRX straight from ATI or the one from Ubuntu Restricted Repos
[10:32] <lesshaste> thedefender: exactly
[10:32] <lesshaste> thedefender: that one
[10:32]  * leo_rockw is going to sleep. good night/day for everyone
[10:32] <lesshaste> thedefender: but I only upgraded to gutsy last week so I may not be the best person to talk to about this
[10:32] <thedefender> lesshaste: there were two choices there
[10:32] <kleth> leo_rockw, gn8
[10:32] <lesshaste> thedefender: the latter
[10:32] <thedefender> aye
[10:32] <lesshaste> thedefender: one choice, two alternatives :)
[10:33] <thedefender> my faith in ATI was never as shaken until I started using linux
[10:33] <lesshaste> thedefender: this is unfortunate..it's always been ok for me
[10:33] <wookienz> hi, i have mounted a 500gb share from a NAS box sitting on the network. Anytime i try and explre the share from the icon on the ubuntu desktop it times out and nothing is shown.. it basically locks up the computer for a minute or so until it errors. Any ideas why this would happen. A 50gb share off the same NAS shows up fine. It there a size restriction on mounting shares?
[10:34] <lesshaste> thedefender: remember compiz and beryl have been quite buggy themselves
[10:34] <nordland-iv> Hey, does anyone use Wifi-Radar?
[10:34] <stefan_> hi
[10:34] <lesshaste> nordland-iv: I did but I prefer nm-applet
[10:34] <thedefender> lesshaste: but apparently people having not only gotten the open source to work with dual heads but they have gotten compiz to work with it as well
[10:35] <legend2440> does anyone know the terminal command that writes list of all installed packages to a text file?
[10:35] <lesshaste> thedefender: oh...looks like you need to be on a suitable forum
[10:35] <lesshaste> thedefender: don't forget to report any bugs you find
[10:35] <lesshaste> thedefender: that's very important
[10:35] <bazhang> legend2440: installed by dpkg?
[10:35] <stefan_> due to fan-problems while running 2.6.22 i want to downgrad to kernel 2.6.20*. is there a way to do that via apt? i have backports in apt, but i cant find the kernel.. HELP
[10:35] <legend2440> bazhang: yes
[10:35] <thedefender> stefan: weird problem
[10:36] <lesshaste> stefan_: fan problems? Is this a hardware fault or something in the kernel?
[10:36] <Seveas> legend2440, dpkg --get-selections
[10:36] <sureshot> hey all it has been a long time since i used ubuntu what is the build- what command
[10:36] <thedefender> stefan: how about you just keep the box open
[10:36] <lesshaste> stefan_: I ask as going up may be better than down
[10:36] <bazhang> legend2440: you could cat dpkg -l to a text file I suppose
[10:36] <sureshot> and syntax
[10:36] <proairgun> join #ubuntu-fr
[10:36] <legend2440> Seveas: yes thats it could'nt remember ty
[10:36] <bazhang> sureshot: for compiling? the package name?
[10:37] <stefan_> lesshaste: kernel problems. the how do i upgrade?
[10:37] <lesshaste> stefan_: ok.. you want to upgrade to the hardy heron kernel maybe
[10:37] <stefan_> how?
[10:37] <thedefender> !hardy heron
[10:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardy heron - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:37] <sureshot> bazhang i guess i need the compilers and such installed
[10:37] <thedefender> !hardy
[10:37] <lesshaste> stefan_: take a look in this forum post http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=4465243
[10:38] <lesshaste> stefan_: also.. is there a bug report for this problem?
[10:38] <lesshaste> stefan_: start on page 1 of the post :)
[10:38] <thedefender> anyone gotten grandr to work?
[10:39] <bazhang> sureshot: build-essential then
[10:39] <stefan_> lesshaste: that are 56 pages
[10:39] <lesshaste> stefan_: go to page 1
[10:39] <lesshaste> stefan_: http://tennessee.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?s=9ab89bbe83d1b7bb442812403cfb647f&t=646755
[10:39] <sureshot> i put an s a the end duh
[10:40] <lesshaste> Note to everyone, if you have a problem and you have researched it and it is almost definitely a bug, PLEASE report it somewhere other than here
[10:40] <Jafet> Why does nvidia-glx-new suggest nvidia-settings but nvidia-settings conflicts with nvidia-glx-new?
[10:40] <nikitis> In /etc/fstab how would I enter in an entry for this normal commandline mount.  "$ sudo mount /home/niki/Music /home/niki/Games/Music" ?
[10:40] <nikitis> err i mean "$ sudo mount --bind /home/niki/Music /home/niki/Games/Music" ?
[10:40] <cookedegg> can someone tell me how to start a process (gnome-do in this case) so that it runs in the session background, not through an open terminal.  PS - this would replicate the call made by the gnome-do menu item
[10:40] <legend2440> Seveas: now once i get a text file with list of all installed packages is there any way to use that file when i do clean install of heron (when it comes out) to tell synaptic to install these same packages?
[10:40] <geirha> susscorfa: it used to be with an s at the end, but they changed it in some release :)
[10:40] <lesshaste> can we add bug reporting to the topic?
[10:40] <bazhang> !bugs
[10:40] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[10:41] <Seveas> legend2440, dpkg --set-selections < file_with_selections_here.txt && apt-get dselect-upgrade
[10:41] <lesshaste> bazhang: :)
[10:41] <bazhang> ;]
[10:41] <lesshaste> stefan_: does that look ok?
[10:41] <Seveas> geirha, nonsense
[10:41] <legend2440> Seveas: great ty
[10:42] <AdvoWork> hi there. is there any way to check DNS is working properly on my ubuntu server?
[10:42] <icesword> how i can install emerald?is it sudo apt-get install emerald
[10:42] <icesword> bazhang:
[10:42] <Seveas> AdvoWork, dig @ip.of.server some.domain.name.that.should.work
[10:42] <bazhang> icesword: aye
[10:42] <icesword> okiookokokokok
[10:42] <Seveas> icesword, your keyboard seems broken :)
[10:44] <icesword> hehehe]
[10:45] <jms1989_xp> What would be a good video capture card for linux. Ideally, it should support video4linux.
[10:45] <afancy>  Hi, when i install a software on Ubuntu, I met the following error: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:45] <afancy> what is the matter?
[10:45] <Exaltia> does someone know how i can launch krfb as soon as the computer start ?
[10:45] <bazhang> afancy: this is gutsy?
[10:45] <afancy> yes
[10:46] <stefano> !topic
[10:46] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[10:46] <stefano> sry fc
[10:46] <AdvoWork> if ive got some emails that arent sending properly, which log would I look in to see the issue? im looking in zimbra.log and mail.log yet see nothing
[10:46] <troms> hei
[10:46] <bazhang> jms1989_xp: you might try the hardware channel for that
[10:46] <Seveas> afancy, we'll need the complete output, pastebin it
[10:46] <afancy> cannot find the library: librt.so.1 and libc.so.6
[10:46] <troms> er d
[10:46] <Aeonoris> When I try to run games like epsxe or gltron, it opens a black window for a few seconds, and then crashes.  The terminal just says "Aborted (core dumped)", without any other errors beforehand
[10:47] <bazhang> troms: support question in there? ;]
[10:47] <fiksi> seveas, everytime i use terminal and synaptic to download n install application, my firefox doesn't work. is it normal?
[10:48] <afancy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59808/
[10:48] <Seveas> fiksi, no
[10:48] <afancy> hi, the error is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59808/
[10:48] <Exaltia> !remote control
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote control - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <thedefender> !pastebin
[10:48] <fiksi> seveas, any solution?
[10:48] <thedefender> !paste
[10:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[10:48] <fiksi> or any website i can read?
[10:48] <afancy> can anyone help me on this problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59808/
[10:49] <Seveas> afancy, you're installing unsupported proprietary software via a .bin file. We don't support that at all
[10:49] <chuy_max> !seen arreis
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen arreis - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <afancy> what do u mean?
[10:49] <thedefender> hey seveas code you look at an error that i just got?
[10:49] <jms1989_xp> Where is the hardware channel?
[10:49] <bazhang> chuy_max: you can /msg ubotu if you want someone to chat with
[10:49] <thedefender> could*
[10:49] <Starnestommy> jms1989_xp: ##hardware
[10:49] <Seveas> afancy, it means you're out of luck
[10:49] <bazhang> ##hardware
[10:49] <afancy> i jsut want to know which library i should install
[10:50] <afancy> which library includes libc.so.6??
[10:50] <Seveas> afancy, whatever you try to install simply doesn't work on ubuntu
[10:50] <chuy_max> bazhang, I'm trying to find when was the last time arreis was connected, do you know what's the command?
[10:50] <bazhang> chuy_max: not sure sorry
[10:50] <fiksi> seveas, is there anything i could do to make my firefox keep browsing while i download n install application?
[10:50] <Seveas> afancy, and given that it's closed source we cannot and do not want to support it
[10:51] <Starnestommy> chuy_max: /msg seenserv seen arreis
[10:51] <msingh> is there a place to put a script to do stuff when the network is detected down?
[10:51] <chuy_max> afancy, are you downloading java?
[10:52] <Trubadurix> hi can i get ubuntu studio in synaptic so i dont have to dowload a iso file?
[10:52] <wookienz> hi, i have mounted a 500gb share from a NAS box sitting on the network. Anytime i try and explre the share from the icon on the ubuntu desktop it times out and nothing is shown.. it basically locks up the computer for a minute or so until it errors. Any ideas why this would happen. A 50gb share off the same NAS shows up fine. It there a size restriction on mounting shares?
[10:52] <Seveas> Trubadurix, yes
[10:52] <chuy_max> thanks Starnestommy :D
[10:52] <Seveas> !ubuntu studio | Trubadurix
[10:52] <ubotu> Trubadurix: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[10:52] <thedefender> Seveas: hey could you look at an error I got and see if there is some obvious answer of why it isn't working http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59809/
[10:52] <Trubadurix> seveas: but wich package shoul i chose there is many
[10:53] <atlef> !Istanbul
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about istanbul - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <Seveas> Trubadurix, ubuntustudio-desktop
[10:53] <Trubadurix> ok thx
[10:53] <thedefender> trubadurix:  don't install desktop
[10:53] <Trubadurix> ?
[10:53] <rausb0> !info istanbul | atlef
[10:53] <ubotu> atlef: istanbul (source: istanbul): Desktop session recorder producing Ogg Theora video. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-1 (gutsy), package size 70 kB, installed size 608 kB
[10:54] <Exaltia> !faq
[10:54] <ubotu> A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[10:54] <thedefender> trubadurix:  don't install there is some bug with the studio desktop and gnome
[10:54] <Trubadurix> what about ubuntustudio-audio ?
[10:54] <thedefender> trubadurix:  install the audio, video and graphics, don't install theme splash desktop, but sounds is fine
[10:55] <Trubadurix> ok will do
[10:55] <npster> why I got grub 18 error when I eject the cd? I use Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon.
[10:55] <wers> what app can you recommend for managing pictures?
[10:55] <wers> i have picasa and f-spot installed
[10:55] <thedefender> trubadurix: yes audio is fine but if you want to take full advantage of the real time effects processing you will need to install the Realtime kernel, and most likely the restricted drivers kernel headers
[10:56] <npster> why I got grub 18 error when I eject the cd? I use Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon.
[10:57] <thedefender> trubadurix:  also i install the starup manager for ubuntu so that i can tell it would to but into first (and add a little color to grub) easily
[10:57] <legend2440> wers: http://ceitl.zanestate.edu/blog/archives/2005/11/photo-organizing-in-linux/
[10:57] <thedefender> trubadurix: You use the Realtime kernel for audio but if your doing something like Blender then you want to be in generic
[10:57] <Trubadurix> ehm does this change some look in ubuntu?
[10:57] <Seveas> yes
[10:58] <wolfric> hey i've got this wierd error where its telling me my usb drive is read only... cant copy anything over to it... anyone know how to fix it?
[10:58] <wers>  one is running on mono while the other is on wine. oh man. haha
[10:58] <wolfric> it said access denied when i tried dragging so i used terminal to sudo mkdir just to check and it said it was read only..
[10:58] <Trubadurix> is it like a media center?
[10:58] <thedefender> trubadurix: its useless, and actually crashes the metacity with the studio theme
[10:58] <gary4gar> how do i control CPU fan speed? I could turn up my fan speeds before doing something intensive, and turn them down before i went to sleep so my room was quieter
[10:58] <thedefender> studio is for Audio and Visual Production
[10:59] <npster> !grub18
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grub18 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <thedefender> musicians, graphic artist, film makers
[10:59] <pookey> hi all - I need to do a remote install for someone - does the server install disk have a method to start up ssh, set  a root password, and have the installer run remotely over an ssh sessoin?
[10:59] <bazhang> npster: what cd? that grub error is often when the cylinder value exceeds that allowable by the bios..
[10:59] <lesshaste> stefan_: does that look ok?
[10:59] <Trubadurix> thedefender: whats this with realtime kernel can i do without?
[10:59] <stefan_> lesshaste: still installing
[10:59] <Starnestommy> npster: check #18 on http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Stage2-errors
[10:59] <lesshaste> stefan_: ah ok :)
[11:00] <Aeonoris> wolfric: Uh, a quick google search suggests there might be a little switch somewhere on the USB stick?
[11:00] <wolfric> nope
[11:00] <lesshaste> are there any tricks for extending battery life in ubuntu other than powertop?
[11:00] <lesshaste> I ask as it seems much less than in windoze
[11:00] <wolfric> its an external usb hard drive which works fine on windows
[11:00] <bazhang> wolfric: what are the permissions on the stick
[11:01] <thedefender> trubadurix: yes you can, and you will still be able to use the effects and JACK but without it there will be a slight delay in the processed sound. And if your a guitarist or a singer, a 70 Millisecond delay is a bit bothersome
[11:01] <winkman> anyone using campcaster?
[11:01] <wolfric> on ubuntu? i dont know how do i check? on the usb? by default anyone can do anything to it
[11:01] <thedefender> trubadurix:  what video card do you use and what driver?
[11:02] <winkman> exit
[11:02] <npster> I need help with grub 18 error, anyone?
[11:02] <Trubadurix> thedefender: ati radeon x600  fglrx driver
[11:03] <wolfric> bazhang: i think its saying root and everyone else can -access files- is tehre any way to change that?
[11:03] <bazhang> npster: did you check the link Starnestommy gave you?
[11:03] <gary4gar> how do i control CPU fan speed? I could turn up my fan speeds before doing something intensive, and turn them down before i went to sleep so my room was quieter
[11:03] <thedefender> ouch, FGLRX current or the one from Ubuntu?
[11:04] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview wolfric this may help with permission issues
[11:04] <wolfric> ty
[11:04] <lesshaste> are there any tricks for extending battery life in ubuntu other than powertop?
[11:04] <stefan_> lesshaste: hm.. seems to work fine now.. at least the fan doesnt run at120% any more.. the problem was, that if it once ran on high speed, it wouldnt slow down, even if the temp was low
[11:04] <stefan_> lesshaste: im testing now
[11:04] <lesshaste> stefan_: hooray! I would like a pizza with anchovies please :)
[11:04] <Trubadurix> thedefender ehmm
[11:04] <thedefender> trubadurix: is it the FGLRX from ATI's site or is it the restricted repo driver
[11:04] <stefan_> lesshaste: hrhr
[11:05] <thedefender> trubadurix: did you install driver or did ubuntu
[11:05] <Trubadurix> thedefender: good question ^^  i think i install with terminal in 6.04 and upg dist
[11:06] <stefan_> lesshaste: works. fna slowed down again. thanks
[11:06] <lesshaste> fna?
[11:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello
[11:06] <stefan_> fan
[11:06] <bazhang> hi!
[11:06] <lesshaste> aha
[11:06] <lesshaste> stefan_: so all good?
[11:06] <stefan_> yap
[11:06] <Trubadurix> thedefender: its not from ati site
[11:06] <lesshaste> stefan_: you could report the problem and the fix maybe on the forum?
[11:07] <stefan_> lesshaste: there is a bugreport already
[11:07] <lesshaste> stefan_: oh.. report it there then :) what's the url?
[11:07] <thedefender> trubadurix: do you run composite with it, the only reason i ask is because there is a slight problem with the RT Kernel and the latest ATI driver, the module doesn't load in the RT Kernel
[11:07] <MasterAslan> how do I change what a command calls.  I need to change sensors to call /usr/bin/sensors instead of /usr/local/bin/sensors
[11:08] <Trubadurix> thedefender: what u mean with if i run composite with it?
[11:08] <fiksi> exit
[11:08] <stefan_> lesshaste: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/110391
[11:08] <thedefender> trubadurix: so you wouldn't have DRI in RT. but if its from ubuntus restricted Repository then you can run XGL and still have it run fine
[11:08] <Seveas> MasterAslan, move /usr/local/bin/sensors out of the way :)
[11:08] <thedefender> trubadurix: like compiz or beryl
[11:09] <lesshaste> stefan_: looks like you will make their day :)
[11:09] <thedefender> trubadurix: so I guess your a guitarist
[11:09] <MyNameIs> MasterAslan, an alias in you're .bashrc will handle that
[11:09] <stefan_> lesshaste: by posteing the workaround or what?
[11:09] <npster> bazhang: What link? I'm using gutsy gibbon live cd, I already install the CD, and everytime I restart my PC(without the CD) It shows Grub 18 error.
[11:09] <lesshaste> stefan_: yes
[11:09] <Trubadurix> thedefender: i had that couble of time in 6.10 but can i check it?
[11:09] <lesshaste> stefan_: it's really helpful to see how someone fixed a problem
[11:10] <Trubadurix> thedefender: well no i just want to try make some music on a pc :)
[11:10] <Aeonoris> When I try to run a 3d game, a black window appears for a few seconds then dissapears, after which the terminal says "Aborted (core dumped)" without any errors before it.
[11:10] <stefan_> lesshaste: i dont know if that bug is for ubuntu 7.10 (2.6.20 is in older ubuntus?)
[11:10] <stefan_> bugreport
[11:11] <npster> bazhang: What link? I'm using gutsy gibbon live cd, I already install the CD, and everytime I restart my PC(without the CD) It shows Grub 18 error.
[11:11] <lesshaste> stefan_: Same here with kernel:
[11:11] <lesshaste> Linux pukeko 2.6.22-14-386 #1 Sun Oct 14 22:36:54 GMT 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:11] <lesshaste> stefan_: in the bug report
[11:11] <legend2440> npster: http://www.saynotomilk.com/archives/5
[11:11] <Starnestommy> npster: what partitions do you have on your hard disk?
[11:11] <thedefender> trubadurix: the audio package in ubuntu-studio is great for that, hydrogen drum machine, and a bunch of recording apps. Best thing is JACK (Jackless Audio Connection Kit) Allows you to mix and match the outputs and inputs of the software and the physical connections on your pc
[11:11] <lesshaste> stefan_: "The same problem in thinkpad x61, kernel is 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux version is Ubuntu 7.10 , the cpu fan speed never slow down"
[11:12] <npster> I use full disk space, Starnestommy
[11:12] <UBIKING> i have ubuntu 7.10
[11:12] <Exaltia> !X export
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x export - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <DuperMan> yo
[11:12] <Exaltia> !export
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about export - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <stefan_> lesshaste: ok ill try to register
[11:12] <thedefender> trubadurix: its almost like having a multitrack recording system but, virtual
[11:12] <lesshaste> stefan_: thanks
[11:12] <jpatrick> !msgthebot > Exaltia
[11:12] <Trubadurix> thedefender: so if i install adio only it dont install realtime kernel?
[11:12] <thedefender> no
[11:13] <Trubadurix> ok thx i will do that then :)
[11:13] <Exaltia> okay jpatrick  :)
[11:13] <DuperMan> anybody can help with installing on umpc?
[11:13] <DuperMan> pwetty pwease:)
[11:13] <pookey> hi all - I need to do a remote install for someone - does the server install disk have a method to start up ssh, set  a root password, and have the installer run remotely over an ssh sessoin?
[11:13] <thedefender> Trubadurix: you actually have to go into synaptic and install the kernel, and I would also install the RT kerenl headers and the RT kernel restricted drives package
[11:14] <rausb0> pookey: no. you will need to boot a live cd with sshd on it and install with debootstrap.
[11:14] <wolfric> bazhang: tried going into media and doing sudo chmod 777 disk but that did nothing.. im a bit stuck here....
[11:14] <npster> Starnestommy: it doesn't help.
[11:14] <pookey> rausb0: ok, thanks!
[11:15] <thedefender> Duperman: they actually have a ubuntu version made for tablets and mobile devices like that
[11:15] <Starnestommy> npster: I'm not sure what's causing the problem
[11:15] <wxx> SE5J6SE54K6SE56
[11:16] <cvasilak> hi there, can anyone recommend a good screencasting software?
[11:16] <wxx> WSSSSSSS
[11:16] <pepe_> istanbul
[11:16] <wers> what code do i enter to purge an app?
[11:16] <kandinski> I have this external hard disk that my fresh gutsy install does not recognise; is there any way I can make the system "see" the disk by hand?
[11:16] <wxx> I'M ITALY
[11:16] <rausb0> wers: sudo apt-get remove --purge pkgname
[11:16] <pepe_> screencast -> istanbul
[11:16] <Starnestommy> wers: what do you mean by "purge"
[11:16] <kandinski> wers: sudo aptitude remove <appname>
[11:16] <wers> thanks rausb0
[11:17] <Aeonoris> wolfric: Dunno if anyone asked already, but what does just "mount" in the terminal say about the drive? rw?
[11:17] <kandinski> "purge" means delete the cached download fo the .deb package too
[11:17] <thedefender> Duperman:  just check this out http://www.ubuntu.com/products/mobile
[11:17] <Seveas> kandinski, no
[11:17] <pepe_> NOPE: purge means remove config files
[11:17] <kandinski> Seveas, ah, sorry
[11:17] <icesword> hello
[11:17] <pepe_> for cleaning the cache: apt-get clean
[11:17] <kandinski> pepe_: thanks
[11:17] <wolfric> aeonoris: sorry im new to linux where do you mean i can see that?
[11:17] <rausb0> kandinski: no, the downloaded .debs are deleted with apt-get clean
[11:18] <icesword> !purge
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about purge - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <icesword> !info purge
[11:18] <ubotu> Package purge does not exist in gutsy
[11:18] <Aeonoris> wolfric: Open up a terminal and type "mount"
[11:18] <wolfric> /dev/sdc1 on /media/disk type ntfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,umask=222,utf8)
[11:19] <wolfric> does that say anything or do you need another line?
[11:19] <Aeonoris> wolfric:  Then I think I don't have any more ideas, sorry :S
[11:20] <legend2440> npster: is this a laptop your trying to install on? what kind?
[11:20] <icesword> wolfric:what is wrong
[11:20] <wolfric> cant change permissions on my usb external hard drive ntfs formated
[11:20] <icesword> hmm,you need root priveliges
[11:20] <wolfric> cant write files to it... if i try chmod change it it says changing disk (read only file system) and then just doesnt work
[11:20] <wolfric> im using root to change it
[11:21] <skurakai> hi. can someone help me with webcam A4Tech PK-130MG? EasyCam doesnt work and French have manual in french :)
[11:21] <wolfric> or sudo rather to change it
[11:21] <icesword> wolfric:ntfs-3g already running
[11:21] <Bo^Dick> is there a smart way of making iso files from cd's?
[11:21] <wolfric> icesword: you're talking to a noob here with linux sorry bud what does that mean
[11:23] <Aeonoris> Bo^Dick, if I'm not mistaken, there's something in the menu when you right-click on a cd, that says "copy disk", or something?  I think?
[11:23] <wolfric> icesword: ive tried to sudo mkdir on the disk and it just says read only filesystem
[11:23] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso
[11:23] <kekZpriester> on a newly installed ubuntu, java and flash plugins (sun-jvm, flash-nonfree) for firefox use OSS for sound output, which blocks alsa on the sound device. how do i make these plugins use alsa instead?
[11:24] <thedefender> well as usually, I didn't get jack squatary from ubuntu support irc. and now im off on a reboot to get this stupid xrandr to work. good luck and your problems and happy solution hunting
[11:24] <Bo^Dick> rausb0: that would imply that the iso format is a totally raw format
[11:24] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: raw?
[11:24] <crimsun> kekZpriester: flashplugin-nonfree (as of several releases ago) uses ALSA by default, actually.
[11:24] <Bo^Dick> rausb0: raw data
[11:25] <Bo^Dick> rausb0: binary that is
[11:25] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: what kind of cd is that?
[11:25] <kekZpriester> crimsun, okay, then the problem is caused by java, i think
[11:25] <Bo^Dick> rausb0: audio cd
[11:25] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: you cannot make images of audio cds
[11:25] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: you can only read the audio tracks
[11:26] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: cdparanoia
[11:26] <DuperMan> wtf rausb
[11:26] <DuperMan> sure you can make images of anyshit... depends on image type
[11:26] <Bo^Dick> rausb0: so the iso format only applies to cds with a filesystem on them?
[11:27] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: yes. audio cds have no filesystem.
[11:27] <DuperMan> oh, iso format. yeah, just an archive....
[11:27] <Aeonoris> When I try to run a 3d game, a black window appears for a few seconds then dissapears, after which the terminal says "Aborted (core dumped)" without any errors before it.  If I run supertux (which I think is 2d), my compy freezes.
[11:28] <rausb0> DuperMan: iso is the only standardized image type. audio images are application (mostly windows) specific
[11:28] <Bo^Dick> i wanna clone a simple audio cd
[11:28] <wookienz> when you specify a type option during a mount command... are you specifying how you would like to mount it or the type of filesystem you ARE mounting...
[11:29] <Iggle-Piggle> mythstream is broke since i upgraded to 0.21 is this easily fixed?
[11:29] <rausb0> Bo^Dick: as long as it doesn't have copy protection, use k3b or brasero or cdparanoia and wodim
[11:29] <cherva> where is the directory containing the text files with the shortcuts in the Applications menu ?
[11:30] <Bo^Dick> rausb0: thanks
[11:30] <cherva> withe the shortcuts of the apps in the Applications menu *
[11:30] <cherva> with**
[11:31] <bazhang> Iggle-Piggle: for #ubuntu-mythtv ? they have a channel for that you know
[11:31] <icesword> am
[11:32] <icesword> hmm.i am still online,it is ok
[11:32] <legend2440> cherva: /usr/share/applications
[11:32] <cherva> legend2440: thanks
[11:33] <legend2440> cherva: yw
[11:34] <DuperMan> where do i go for embedded system installs etc?
[11:34] <frold> what is the best spam protection for evolution?  I just tried to prevu firefox 3 to help backporters, but I get a "Aptitude couldn't satisfy the build dependencies". For others it seems working fine. Is there some "obvious" way to satisfy dependencies in prevu?
[11:35] <nagyv> LimCore: yes, almost everyone here :)
[11:36] <frold> Openoffice come along with 7.10
[11:36] <rausb0> DuperMan: is the embedded platform a non-x86 compatible arch?
[11:36] <bentob0x> anybody knows why my audio switch from one soundcard to the other (I have two) without telling me what's going on?
[11:36] <DuperMan> well, got an arm machine
[11:36] <LimCore> nagyv: amd64?
[11:36] <DuperMan> and a c-m7 umpc
[11:36] <DuperMan> @rausb
[11:37] <bentob0x> every time I reboot, feels that the sound is going through another soundcard
[11:37] <nagyv> LimCore: nope
[11:37] <LimCore> because I need someone to help me verify bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org-amd64/+bug/190680
[11:37] <rausb0> DuperMan: ubuntu only supports x86 and x86-64
[11:37] <DuperMan> well the via is x86 compatible
[11:37] <DuperMan> @rausb just need a touch of help getting the onboard wlan workind
[11:37] <rausb0> DuperMan: arm is not via
[11:38] <rausb0> DuperMan: and arm is not x86 compatible
[11:38] <DuperMan> rausb0: true, the arm is in a different machine
[11:38] <rausb0> DuperMan: you didn't say that
[11:38] <DuperMan> rausb0: said before i got two machines, forgot to nick highlight
[11:38] <rausb0> DuperMan: hmpf
[11:39] <rausb0> DuperMan: okay, which wlan card is it?
[11:39] <DuperMan> rausb0: my bad. am noob here
[11:39] <IdleOne> prolly sis191
[11:39] <DuperMan> rausb0: rtk8187b
[11:39] <dan> hi all: i have a "small" problem with the asus eee (4GB HDD), ubuntu installed without problems, however the internet connection is not detected. Please help me specifically, the net is full of infor mation, that i cannot use.
[11:39] <DuperMan> rausb0: problem seems to be card not set to wake on lan or somesuch
[11:39] <LimCore> can anyone please verify bug because I need someone to help me verify bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org-amd64/+bug/190680
[11:39] <rausb0> DuperMan: rtl8187b is not supported yet. only rtl8187
[11:40] <vu> hi everybody!
[11:40] <Aeonoris> Does anyone know how to fix an "Aborted (core dumped)" error when it doesn't say any other errors but that?
[11:40] <rausb0> DuperMan: wireless with wake on lan?!
[11:40] <DuperMan> rausb0: thanks man. sorry for bashing before on the audio iso image thing.
[11:40] <DuperMan> rausb0: seemed dumb to me too, but that was the only solution or approximation of one google produced
[11:41] <vu> szerezi valaki a sóskát?
[11:41] <wolfric> is there any reason for "unmount" to not be found as a command? ubuntu just wont recognize it
[11:41] <Aeonoris> umount
[11:41] <Aeonoris> It's wierd.
[11:41] <wolfric> lol ty
[11:41] <legend2440> wolfric: its umount
[11:42] <n2diy> I just got 10 SD flash drives, I could label 8 of them, but 2 won't initialize. Is there a way to initialize them, or are they DOA?
[11:42] <nagyv> !hu | vu
[11:42] <ubotu> vu: Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál
[11:42] <DuperMan> rausb0: any idea how one can help with the 8187b driver?
[11:42] <rausb0> DuperMan: maybe rtl8187b will be supported in kernel 2.6.25, i don't know. for now the rtl8187 module only supports rtl8187 (without the b).
[11:42] <DuperMan> rausb0: thanks. i wanna ubuntu my umpc bad:D
[11:43] <nagyv> DuperMan: might be hardy has it, and you can try backporting
[11:43] <DuperMan> nagyv: tried hardy, no go
[11:43] <rausb0> nagyv: i don't think so
[11:43] <Nuxis> hey I'm trying to make alsa work on a acer laptop with card hda intel. I compiled the latest alsa with the right ./configure options etc.. but still no sound. Alsa dmesg | grep snd --> nothing
[11:43] <Nuxis> anyone an idea?
[11:43] <bazhang> dan: have you checked the eeepc channel or wiki for that?
[11:43] <DuperMan> rausb: ndis found installed driver. still didn't work
[11:43] <samir> Salut
[11:44] <IdleOne> !fr | samiam
[11:44] <ubotu> samiam: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:44] <rausb0> DuperMan: i don't use closed source drivers at all. so no experience with ndiswrapper here.
[11:44] <DuperMan> rausb0: thanks man
[11:45] <DuperMan> all: anybody with good ndiswrapper experience/understanding?
[11:45] <nagyv> I just tried to prevu firefox 3 to help backporters, but I get a "Aptitude couldn't satisfy the build dependencies". For others it seems working fine. Is there some "obvious" way to satisfy dependencies in prevu?
[11:45] <neeto> Is there a way that I can send mouse input to only one process?
[11:45] <LollinopiL> holà holà! who know the name of a program that could remove the useless files and folders ?
[11:45] <archangelpetro> LollinopiL, it depends what you 'define' as useless files and folders
[11:45] <dan> buzhang: not yet, thanks for the info, didn't knew about it.. goin' there 2
[11:46] <Nuxis> anyone ?
[11:46] <legend2440> LollinopiL: fslint
[11:46] <archangelpetro> Nuxis, have you set the volume settings?
[11:46] <LollinopiL> archangel well, i mean the files like what remain from an uninstallation etc etc
[11:46] <thetux> hello
[11:46] <Nuxis> archangelpetro: yup there all not muted and highest volume
[11:46] <archangelpetro> LollinopiL,  i think 'rm' does pretty well :D
[11:47] <archangelpetro> Nuxis, im afraid that's all i can suggest.. i'm not very well versed in 'the art of bringing da' funk' on alsa
[11:47] <archangelpetro> in short, i suck :)
[11:47] <Nuxis> kk
[11:47] <bazhang> dan: #eeepc and www.eeeuser.com ;]
[11:47] <thetux> anyone know how to make glx work on a FSC with via onboard video card?
[11:47] <LollinopiL> legend do u use it ? must i do a backup before using it ?
[11:47] <archangelpetro> ok
[11:48] <archangelpetro> any of you with an NVIDIA card, i'm trying to install Ogre3d.. and i get the following error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL.... can any of you suggest a resolution? (or a package)
[11:48] <Nuxis> btw I was following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[11:48] <thetux> anyone know how to make beryl/compiz work on a FSC with via onboard video card?
[11:49] <DuperMan> thetux: you really better don't:)
[11:50] <Silex> hi, if I have a bouncer that I want to automatically start when my box starts
[11:50] <Silex> should I put that in /etc/rc.d or /etc/init.d ?
[11:50] <Aeonoris> Does anyone know how to fix an "Aborted (core dumped)" error when it doesn't say any other errors but that?  Because it occurred when I installed a new graphic driver suggests it's a graphical error, but it always seems to be right after it tries to load the sound.
[11:52] <thetux> :((
[11:53] <legend2440> LollinopiL: yes i use it but you must be careful. backup is always a good idea. deborphan in synaptic is good for getting rid of files no longer in use by other programs
[11:53] <marowit_> Hi. How do i make a system wide command that executes shutdown when battery is on critical level?
[11:55] <JC_Denton_> I have a java process running which I'm unable to kill using top (ran sudo top)
[11:56] <StLemur> Hi, I'm running Gutsy with Gnome. I have a USB external HDD /dev/sda1 which is not automounted on startup. When I try to delete files from it in a nautilus window I get the message "Error "Not on the same file system" while deleting <filename>" but when I delete files in a terminal using rm there's no problem.
[11:57] <m3gach33zy> hey ubuntu guys i need some help with my laptop... when i try to open a partitioned part of my hard drive i get an error saying i cant mount the volume what do i do?
[11:57] <geirha> JC_Denton_: try with kill -9 <pid>
[11:58] <Silex> hi, if I have a bouncer that I want to automatically start when my box starts, should I put that in /etc/rc.d or /etc/init.d ? can't find any decent tutorial on the ubuntu help pages
[11:59] <geirha> Silex: /etc/rc.local is run last during boot, and is meant for running custom scripts
[11:59] <JC_Denton_> geirha thanks. what's the difference between 15 and 9 (and I don't mean 6)
[11:59] <marowit_> StLemur, I think that's because rm doesn't try to put the file in trash
[12:00] <Silex> geirha: thank you
[12:00] <geirha> Silex: if it needs to be run in a certain order, putting it in /etc/init.d would be the thing to do, and then set which runlevels it should run with update-rc.d
[12:00] <legend2440> LollinopiL: this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140920
[12:00] <StLemur> marowit_: ah, OK. So do I need to create a .Trash on /mnt/sda1? How do I do that?
[12:01] <LollinopiL> yeah thx!
[12:01] <Silex> geirha: also if I want the /etc/init.d/foo stop|start|restart scheme I guess
[12:01] <Silex> geirha: thanks for clearing it up
[12:01] <Nuxis> someone else ?
[12:02] <StLemur> marowit_: I just looked. There is a .Trrash-<my username>...
[12:02] <StLemur> er, .Trash-<my username>
[12:02] <geirha> JC_Denton_: -15 is the kind version of kill, it allows the application time to shut down itself. -9 is the brutal version which just ... kills it
[12:03] <Silex> -9 makes no prisoners
[12:03] <Silex> :)
[12:03] <Pirate_Hunter> hi i was wondering is there an app to check my system configuration as well as hardware, basically to check if the system/OS is running o.k.?
[12:05] <Pirate_Hunter>  hi i was wondering is there an app to check my system configuration as well as hardware, basically to check if the system/OS is running o.k.?
[12:06] <JC_Denton_> thanks geirha
[12:06] <tony_> i use ultimate edition ubuntu it has hardinfo on it that does what your lookin for
[12:07] <JC_Denton_> Is there a gnome plugin allowing you to extract archives from the nautilus file, right click menu?
[12:07] <geirha> Pirate_Hunter: if there is, I've never heard of it, and I doubt such an application exists. Escpecially on the hardware part, since a lot of hardware lacks documentation of how they work
[12:07] <geirha> JC_Denton_: there should be one installed by default
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_, you should just be able to dble click and have it open the archive manager
[12:08] <marowit_> StLemur, i don't thinks thats the case (manually creating trash), I'm affraid i cant' help much more, but if you can live without trash you can use Shift+delete to bypass it.
[12:08] <mah_> j\ #linuxac
[12:08] <cherva> I'm building a program to keep an eye on my mail server ( who is sending mails) I can see when someone is sending a mail and the reciver with "watch tail mail.log" ,but how can I the message body ?
[12:08] <StLemur> marowit_: ah, OK, thanks
[12:09] <mah_> j/ #linuxac
[12:09] <JC_Denton_> Jack_Sparrow: "extract to this location" would be speedier..
[12:09] <Jack_Sparrow> mah_,   /join #linuxac
[12:09] <mah_> j/ #linuxac
[12:09] <gustav_> ubuntu
[12:10] <Pirate_Hunter> geirha: i wouldve thought something like the windows version of system utilities would exist but ill try asking one more time
[12:10] <Pirate_Hunter> geirha: third time is always a charm
[12:11] <Pirate_Hunter> hi i was wondering is there an app to check my system configuration as well as hardware (i.e. like system utilities available on windows), i need to basically to  if the system/OS is running o.k.?
[12:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, one explanation might be that since Ubuntu is not as buggy as windows we dont really need one
[12:13] <geirha> JC_Denton_: Sure you don't have an option like that, I have an "Extract here" ...
[12:13] <neeto> How does one launch firefox from the command line to immediately open up a specified website?
[12:13] <geirha> neeto: firefox http://...
[12:13] <neeto> geirha: thanks
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> geirha, there is an extract here .. yes
[12:14] <foo8ar> hi  all, where could i get some helpful hints abount installing gutsy on a g4 macmini?
[12:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !ppc
[12:14] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[12:15] <archangelpetro> poor ppcers
[12:15] <manguy> hi, i'm going to try installing ubuntu on my intel mac with boot camp.  are there any potential problems i might run into?
[12:15] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: hmmm yeah i ve been thinking about that, the reason is that ive been having probs with my system, im wondering if it is ubuntu or the actual hardware either way both suggestions are weird since i have never had these problem
[12:15] <Varitech>  irc://irc.Fansub-IRC.org/kyuuden-fansub
[12:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, What problems
[12:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Varitech, Please dont
[12:16] <howefield> yeah manguy, you'll end up not using mac os ;)
[12:16] <manguy> howefield:  :P
[12:17] <lordleemo> Pirate_Hunter: system administration system monitor  is that what you want   or sudo gnome-system-monitor
[12:17] <n2diy> I just got 10 SD flash drives, I could label 8 of them, but 2 won't initialize. Is there a way to initialize them, or are they DOA?
[12:17] <stefano> n2diy, are they all the same?
[12:17] <Jack_Sparrow> n2diy, HAve you tried to force mount them.. those two may be used and locked down
[12:17] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: 1st, hd seems to be grinding lately, when starting ubuntu or sometimes when ubuntu is idle, twice i had hd failure where it spat soem gibberish on me and ubuntu modules failed also grub sometimes doesnt come on and i have to restart again last ubutnu seems to be getting sluggish on certain occasions... its really upsetting
[12:17] <n2diy> stefano: say, they all came in a lot.
[12:18] <hans_> goeden middag
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, see fsck.. but that sounds like a drive about to fail...
[12:18] <dj2008> www.stroganov-shop.ru
[12:18] <n2diy> Jack_Sparrow, no I haven't, how would I do that?
[12:18] <stefano> !nl | hans_
[12:18] <ubotu> hans_: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> n2diy, one sec
[12:18] <stefano> :-)
[12:18] <Pirate_Hunter> has anyone actually manage to get flash working on opera 9.2, if so please explain how?
[12:19] <hans_> nog nederlanders hier
[12:19] <n2diy> Jack_Sparrow, What is weird is they work in my camera, but Ubuntu won't play with them.
[12:19] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: will probably have to do that one i find the install cd for my ubuntu otherwise do it from recovery which i have yet to experience with
[12:20] <Jack_Sparrow> n2diy, http://forum.notebookreview.com/archive/index.php/t-211958.html           see the last entry
[12:20] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: right now one of my hd is off even knowing it is connected to the system arrrrhhhh just want to strangle someone
[12:20] <n2diy> Jack_Sparrow, thanks, taking a look.
[12:20] <noober> how to set up samba server?
[12:21] <Pirate_Hunter> !samba
[12:21] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[12:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, You may also have a marginal power supply cauing a problem like that.  A marginal power supply seems to kill hard drives
[12:21] <olejorgenb> what is the proper way of setting the gtk-theme if I'm not running gnome
[12:21] <olejorgenb> ?
[12:21] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: hmm ok but what is that exactly if i knew i could verify if that is so
[12:21] <olejorgenb> I tried making a .gtkrc-2.0, but it didn't work
[12:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, There are sites online where you tell it your hardware and it tells you how big your power supply should be.
[12:23] <anton55> what are you useing instead of gnome find a theme manager for what your using
[12:23] <olejorgenb> I'm using ion
[12:23] <icesword> !compiz
[12:23] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[12:23] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: thanx ill google for marginal power supply and see if it gives anything decent
[12:23] <stefano> what is ion?
[12:23] <olejorgenb> a window manager
[12:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, we could go into propper cooloing and all of that.. but . we are drifting into offtopic.. that is about all the help I can give in that direction
[12:23] <stefano> sry i'll jfgi
[12:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Pirate_Hunter, power supply wattage calculator
[12:24] <olejorgenb> i just want a file where I can write which theme gtk should use
[12:24] <Pirate_Hunter> Jack_Sparrow: np your help has been appreciated thank you very much
[12:24] <Jack_Sparrow> any time
[12:24] <stefano> ion is a window manager for people who love a tidy desktop it seems
[12:24] <stefano> :>
[12:24] <olejorgenb> stefano: hehe, yes
[12:24] <foo8ar> ubuntu boots ok on the mac but i get normal bash prompt. how could i bootstrap the X instalation program or do an console based default installation?
[12:25] <olejorgenb> When I run gnome-theme-manager it changes the theme, but it's not permanent
[12:25] <stefano> foo8ar, you could defenetely do the latter
[12:26] <n2diy> Jack_Sparrow, mount doesn't see the cards, so I don't know what device to force?
[12:28] <mahill> can anyone here help me with a synaptics touchpad issue?
[12:29] <stefano> mahill, what's your spesific issue?
[12:30] <mahill> well, I have an allocated area of my touchpad to act as the v scroll, but for some reason, ubuntu ALSO wants to use about 1/4 of my regular touching area as v scroll
[12:30] <stefano> phew
[12:30] <mahill> ?
[12:30] <stefano> sorry no idea about that, you can turn off vscroll if that would help
[12:30] <stefano> and issue a thread in the forums about it
[12:31] <mahill> yeah, but if I turn off v scroll, it turns it off completely
[12:31] <mahill> yeah, I found a thread on the forums with like...2 posts.  Nothing resolved
[12:31] <stefano> :\
[12:31] <thedefender> anyone use xrandr?
[12:31] <Psylion> hello guys
[12:31] <mahill> well, 3 posts now
[12:32] <Psylion> could someone help me ?
[12:32] <stefano> thedefender, xrandr doesnt work for me, it crashes everytime i click somewhere
[12:32] <thedefender> psylion: you have to ask for help first?
[12:32] <mahill> what's your issue Psylion?
[12:32] <Psylion> :)
[12:32] <stefano> hello
[12:32] <Psylion> well i have mixxx
[12:32] <Psylion> 1.5.0
[12:32] <Psylion> and i want to put the new version :) but im noob on linux
[12:32] <stefano> Psylion, please try to keep questions in one line so that it's easier to read them
[12:33] <thedefender> stefano: well it works for me but when ubuntu boots my secondary screen is operating at a rate 85 when it needs to be 60
[12:33] <thedefender> i know how to change it to 60 but how to i make it be 60 at startup
[12:33] <Psylion> a friend of me have been and help me put my hercules dj console work , but i want to install new version of mixxx
[12:33] <thedefender> tired of having to do it each time
[12:33] <Psylion> its in tar.gz and i dont know what to do sory guys
[12:34] <stefano> Psylion, what kind of files does it have in it?
[12:34] <stefano> Psylion, if there is a configure file and make a automake or make file, it is a source code package which you have to compile
[12:34] <Psylion> can u help me with that stefano ?
[12:35] <geirha> !compile | Psylion
[12:35] <ubotu> Psylion: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
[12:35] <wookienz> when you specify a type option during a mount command... are you specifying how you would like to mount it or the type of filesystem you ARE mounting...
[12:35] <stefano> Psylion, this should help you
[12:35] <stefano> good luck :-)
[12:35] <stefano> btw mixxx is a fun program
[12:36] <Psylion> thx :)
[12:37] <wookienz> im trying to umount a share but it says that the deivce is busy...any thoughts on how i can force it to unmount or find out why it is busy?
[12:37] <Eric_Jardas> hello
[12:37] <gnobody> hi
[12:37] <Dr_willis> wookienz:   I think 'lsof /dev/DEVICE' will show some info.
[12:37] <Eric_Jardas> can anyone tell me where can I download awn key gpg key from ?
[12:38] <Eric_Jardas> http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/8434D43A.gpg doesn't exist :(
[12:38] <Dr_willis> wookienz:  but if its a samba share, you may have a program thats just accessed it then crashed. or somthing.
[12:38] <Eric_Jardas> would anyone using it send it to me ?
[12:38] <stefano> Eric_Jardas, you normally get the pgp key from the owner
[12:38] <Eric_Jardas> stefano, that is the gpg key that I should use...thats what their wiki says
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !gpg
[12:39] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[12:39] <SupaFly> anyone here managed to compile battle for wesnoth v1.4 on gutsy successfully?
[12:39] <Eric_Jardas> Jack_Shade, so ?
[12:39] <stefano> Eric_Jardas, oh i see, wel that depends highly on the creator and is not a generic issue
[12:39] <stefano> Eric_Jardas, just happens to be a dead link i suppose
[12:39] <Dr_willis> SupaFly:  heh - thats on my todo list.
[12:40] <Eric_Jardas> I know...I'm asking if anyone who is using awn would send the gpg file to me :)
[12:40] <SupaFly> Dr_willis i always get stuck where the configure moans about sdl mixer not supporting ogg, but i know for a fact it does :S
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !awm
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <Psycoshot>  Hey, I have a usb flash drive, when I plug it in, I get asked what I want to do. I click open in new window but no windows opens. Nothing is in /media
[12:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !find awm
[12:40] <ubotu> Found: drawmap, nawm
[12:40] <stefano> Eric_Jardas, google doesnt have the key in their cache either
[12:40] <SupaFly> !awn
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <Eric_Jardas> stefano, nope :(
[12:41] <Dr_willis> SupaFly:  not tried it yet. I always turn the sound down anyway. :)   so i may compile it it no sound..
[12:41] <stefano> Eric_Jardas, did you try this key: http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/F4ECF181.gpg ?
[12:41] <Eric_Jardas> stefano, nope..gonna try now
[12:41] <Radar> When trying to run glxgears I get Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:41] <Radar> What is wrong?
[12:41] <stefano> i bet it'll work
[12:41] <SupaFly> Dr_willis how did you go about compiling it with no sound? just ./configure -no sound like that?
[12:42] <Radar> I have the line to load glx in my xorg.conf file.
[12:42] <gnobody> hey guys, whats the best IRC client for Ubuntu?
[12:42] <Dr_willis> SupaFly:  i havent tried yet. :)
[12:42] <Radar> gnobody: irssi
[12:42] <Dr_willis> !best | gnobody
[12:42] <ubotu> gnobody: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[12:42] <SupaFly> !goingtobloodykillsomebodyinasec
[12:42] <stefano> Calm down :O
[12:42] <stefano> everythings under contro
[12:42] <stefano> l
[12:42] <dvoid> where do i change kwallet password?
[12:43] <Radar> it's saying failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so, even though that file already exists.
[12:43] <stefano> Radar,  does it have the right rights? (e.g. are you allowed to read it?)
[12:43] <dogfishguzzler> Can anyone help me figure out why ubuntu isn't seeing my usb external hd?
[12:43] <Radar> stefano: yeah I can read it
[12:44] <dogfishguzzler> here is my output from syslog when I plug it in. http://pastebin.com/m505caf47
[12:46] <icesword> f
[12:46] <icesword> *
[12:46] <icesword> *
[12:46] <icesword> k
[12:46] <pau> hi i can't burn a cd, i think that it's because cdrecord haven't permissions, do you know how to change it?
[12:47] <gvsa123> should i go for samba or a client-server?
[12:47] <jpatrick> !enter | icesword
[12:47] <ubotu> icesword: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:47]  * Radar <3's irssi's ability to easily ignore joins, parts and quits.
[12:48] <stefano> gvsa123, samba is bad (bad as in evil)
[12:48] <Radar> brb
[12:48] <icesword> jpatrick;do not mask me,
[12:48] <stefano> gvsa123, your best option is ntp if you have it available on both system
[12:48] <stefano> ss
[12:48] <stefano> -s
[12:48] <dogfishguzzler> Anyone willing to trouble shoot usb external hd?
[12:48] <stefano> dogfishguzzler, did you try another usb port?
[12:49] <aspire_> hello
[12:49] <aspire_> is there any one here that can help me with setting up mu DHCP?
[12:49] <gvsa123> stefano: ntp?
[12:49] <dogfishguzzler> stefano: I thried them all. I get this in syslog when I plug it in. http://pastebin.com/m505caf47
[12:49] <stefano> aspire_, do you mean a dhcp server or a client?
[12:49] <pau> hi i can't burn a cd, i think that it's because cdrecord haven't permissions, do you know how to change it?
[12:49] <stefano> !ntp | gvsa123
[12:49] <ubotu> gvsa123: Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)
[12:49] <icesword> !burn
[12:49] <stefano> oh sorry
[12:49] <stefano> lol
[12:49] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:49] <Radar> Alrighty, the error I'm getting is: http://pastie.caboo.se/166333
[12:49] <Radar> !glx
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <jtravnick> anyone running into update for ubuntu-docs just stoping?
[12:50] <icesword> jpatrick;do not mask me,
[12:50] <stefano> !nfs | gvsa123
[12:50] <ubotu> gvsa123: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:50] <Gecko> Hey there. I don't get it... Ubuntu doesn't detect any other operating systems during install even though I have another ubuntu installation as well as a ms windows... Any hints?
[12:50] <aspire_> hello
[12:50] <aspire_> stefano: I am supposed to be assigned an IP from my modem
[12:50] <aspire_> but get this message
[12:50] <aspire_> No DHCPOFFERS received.
[12:50] <aspire_> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[12:51] <gnobody> is there a way to have the text on my desktop icons display beside the icon, rather than under the icon
[12:51] <dogfishguzzler> aspire: For some reason mine does that too but if I do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart it works.
[12:51] <icesword> linux is stupid to detect linux os before
[12:51] <hele> Any good replacer for win software like cpu-z ? i want see etc memory frequency and divider
[12:51] <stefano> aspire_, it seems there is an issue with your router/gateway, since those devices are very different i don't think i can help you with this, try to tinker with your router to see if theres anything configured the wrong way
[12:52] <icesword> hele:less /proc/cpuinfo
[12:52] <icesword> hele:less /proc/meminfo
[12:52] <Radar> aspire_: make sure it's on the same subnet and so on as your router.
[12:52] <stefano> dogfishguzzler, what kernel are you using? (you can find out by typing uname -a into a terminal
[12:52] <Radar> I know it should find it automatically, but see if you can ping it in the first place.
[12:52] <gvsa123> stefano: i'll check it out... ever since i started using linux, i've used samba to connect my xp and ubuntu because of the shared folders that's accessible both ways (when i get the config right)...
[12:52] <icesword> less /proc/version,that is it
[12:53] <tla> Hi.  Is this the best place to ask about wireless on ubuntu (gutsy) or is there a dedicated channel?
[12:53] <stefano> gvsa123, nfs does not work with windows
[12:53] <dogfishguzzler> <IP_ADDRESS> generic
[12:53] <Dr_willis> Still no free NFS client stuff for windows?
[12:53] <stefano> gvsa123, file sharing issues with windows machines are fairly common - i just assume it doesnt work :-)
[12:53] <icesword> g
[12:53] <Radar> tla: ask away?
[12:53] <icesword> o
[12:53] <icesword> o
[12:53] <icesword> d
[12:53] <icesword> b
[12:53] <icesword> y
[12:53] <FloodBot1> icesword: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:53] <icesword> e
[12:54] <dogfishguzzler> stefano: Sorry I didn;t include your nick on that post you may have missed it <IP_ADDRESS> generic is my kernel
[12:54] <hele> icesword: Good, but not telling anything about frequency
[12:54] <stefano> dogfishguzzler, try to adress the people youre replying to by typing their name at the beginning of your message, you can autocomplete names with the tab key. otherwise messages get lost easily
[12:54] <stefano> dogfishguzzler, allrighty :>
[12:55] <icesword> hele:IMPOSSIBLE! less /proc/cpuinfo
[12:55] <icesword> !cpuinfo
[12:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cpuinfo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:55] <icesword> :(
[12:56] <stefano> dogfishguzzler, your hard drive may not get enough power. does it have an external power supply and if so is it plugged in?
[12:56] <icesword> hele:you got it?
[12:56] <hele> iceword: Telling only outer frequency for core. Not a ward for inner  frequency or fsb
[12:56] <icesword> i am sorry
[12:56] <dogfishguzzler> stefano: No external power supply
[12:56] <stefano> hele, your bios should give you some info on that
[12:56] <gvsa123> stefano: i've always managed to make samba work
[12:57] <stefano> dogfishguzzler, i just read something on a german forum about a guy having the same issue, he later found out that the hard disk didnt get nough power
[12:57] <dogfishguzzler> stefano: Can this be fixed?
[12:57] <aspire_> stefano: not currently using a router
[12:57] <aspire_> directly connected to my modem
[12:57] <stefano> dogfishguzzler, http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html#ts6
[12:58] <aspire_> Radar: not actually using a router, using a modem
[12:58] <stefano> aspire_, if you don't use a router then whom should you get the ip adress from?
[12:58] <hele> sfefano: I now, but trying to find some program for linux so there is no need to windows if you are overclocking
[12:58] <gvsa123> stefano: the thing is that i don't have a router / home network... i only connect them to synchronize my files (sorta like backing up to my linux) and basic file transfer... but since i did  a clean install of gutsy, i was wondering whether it was better for me to try out a different way of connected xp and ubuntu
[12:58] <Radar> I am getting an error with glx failing to load: The error I'm getting is: http://pastie.caboo.se/166333, anyone?
[12:58] <DOOM_NX> can anybody help me with some ALSA asoundrc scripting?
[12:58] <Ax-Ax> How do I type ³?
[12:58] <stefano> gvsa123, when using both windows and linux youre sort of forced to use samba
[12:58] <aspire_> stefano: the modem used to assign it to me
[12:59] <aspire_> that is the ISP actually
[12:59] <Jack_Sparrow> DOOM_NX,  /join #Alsa
[12:59] <dogfishguzzler> stefano: Thanks for your help.
[12:59] <aspire_> stefano: why does my modem not do that?
[12:59] <Ace2016> !seen Ace2016
[12:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen ace2016 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <gvsa123> stefano: so that's the way to go eh... what about ftp?
[13:00] <stefano> aspire_, no idea, sorry. did you do what comcast always tells you to do in an annoying fashion? ("Did you reset the moden?"
[13:00] <qwertymn> hi
[13:00] <Da_Putzler> hi guys, I just done a manual install of Sun Java 1.6.0_05 and it all works fine, but I cannot tell Ubuntu to use that as default Java as it doesnt appear on the list
[13:00] <Da_Putzler> any ideas ?
[13:00] <tla> ok, I have a Belkin 802.11 preN card.  I have installed ndiswrapper and loaded the driver module.  iwconfig & friends sees the card OK.  Problem is that I am not getting an IP address assigned from the wireless router.  Another windoze system is getting an IP so I dont think it is a router issue.  On Ubuntu I get a <IP_ADDRESS> IP - not sure where that comes from?  Help on how to debug it...
[13:00] <tla> ...appreciated.  See http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59814/
[13:00] <Psycoshot> "Some Linux operating system even can auto-mount the USB drives, especially if you’re using Gnome and KDE." T.T WHY!?!?!
[13:00] <stefano> gvsa123, ftp is not very secure (neither is samba), if you want to use something different, you can use scp (which is file transfer over ssh)
[13:01] <stefano> Psycoshot, old document :-)
[13:01] <gvsa123> stefano: security isn't really an issue as far my setup is concerned... i connect them via crossover cables...
[13:02] <salge> hello erbody. can somebody tell me which file to modify to specify to X which video driver to use (i am currently root on recovery command line)
[13:02] <stefano> gvsa123, samba is sadly the easiest way to do it
[13:02] <Jack_Sparrow> salge, /etc/X22/xorg.conf
[13:02] <Jack_Sparrow> X11
[13:02] <gvsa123> stefano: tried to use openssh on linux and a client on xp, but the transfer is too slow... iguess because of the encryption along the way
[13:02] <erUSUL> salge: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[13:02] <stefano> salge, be careful
[13:02] <aspire_> stefano: are you trying to make a point?
[13:03] <netdur> it is safe to do "apt-get update" on hardy now?
[13:03] <gvsa123> stefano: hmmm.... i guess i'm stuck with my old way of doing it then.... <apt-get installs samba>
[13:03] <salge> erUSUL, let me try, stefano, what's up?
[13:03] <sdf2> When I install ubuntu, does it wipe out my home directory?
[13:03] <stefano> aspire_, about what?
[13:03] <Jack_Sparrow> salge, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg   if you get locked out Select vesa as your video card and 1024 max rex.  Use tab or enter to accept all other defaults
[13:04] <stefano> salge, i just mean it is really easy to mess things up badly when modifying the xorg.conf, nothing more
[13:04] <tekteen> sdf2: yes
[13:04] <sdf2> damnit
[13:04] <salge> o ok
[13:05] <salge> erUSUL, this looks like a nifty tool, it even made a backup for me, thanks!
[13:05] <tla> Radar: any ideas?
[13:05] <tekteen> sdf2: unless you have it on a separate partition
[13:05] <Jack_Sparrow> sdf2, That is why we recommend /home on a second partition
[13:05] <bluecake> anyone using bitvise?
[13:06] <DIL> backing up is a fundamental thing to do before you make changes $0.02
[13:06] <Jack_Sparrow> sdf2, use livecd and copy /home to a usb or another partition
[13:06] <Radar> tla: nup
[13:06] <Ax-Ax> How do I type ³?
[13:07] <sdf2> argh, I don't have any spare partitions
[13:08] <DIL> Ax-Ax: probably special character in open office - what application
[13:09] <IsotropicSpin> hey, how do i connect to my Internet server with remote desktop?
[13:09] <heogen> hi somebody know how can to connect my pc to tv
[13:09] <Ax-Ax> DIL: xchat
[13:09] <sdf2> Plus my home directory is 27 gigs
[13:09] <tekteen> sdf2: is it on a separate partition?
[13:09] <sdf2> no
[13:10] <heogen> how to step i should to fallow for connect my pc to tv?
[13:10] <tekteen> you need to find a place to put it. sorry
[13:10] <IsotropicSpin> heogen, do you have a TV card? if not then you can't do it
[13:10] <heogen> yeah
[13:10] <Fallenou> hi, where are the "hardware testing" report sent to in the launchpad web site ?
[13:10] <bluecake> which run level should i execute rdesktop? i don't want to start gnome at all.
[13:10] <heogen> Isotropicspin yeah
[13:10] <Fallenou> i wanna see the result of my report
[13:11] <IsotropicSpin> heogen, ok then just checking , i have no idea , does anyone else know?
[13:11] <jrib> heogen: tell the room the type of card you have
[13:11] <heogen> IsotropicSpin ok
[13:11] <heogen> Jrib how you doing?  ok let me looking for my card name
[13:12] <IsotropicSpin> DOES anyone know how I could connect to my internet server (also running Ubuntu 7.1) using remote desktop?
[13:12] <jrib> heogen: I'm good, you?
[13:12] <heogen> Jrib im fine man
[13:12] <cute> j
[13:12] <cute> hai.. ikutan dong...
[13:12] <Da_Putzler> has anyone installed Sun Java 1.6.0_05 and got it working as default Java on their System and in Firefox ???
[13:13] <jrib> Da_Putzler: why do you not want to use the version in the repositories?
[13:14] <Da_Putzler> usually I would, but I like keeping my system up-to-date, and the repo's are too slow for this
[13:14] <jrib> Da_Putzler: what is the reason for being "up-to-date"?
[13:14] <jabalsad> Hi, I used to have a boot loader that gave me the option to choose between Ubuntu and XP upon startup. I formatted the XP partition and installed Vista, but now there is no bootloader anymore :( How do I get it back?
[13:14] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> 6.0.05 is really not at many different than 6.0.04
[13:15] <Da_Putzler> bug fixes, java crashing on certain apps...  I have Opera using the latest without a problem, it;s just Firefox that's being a pain
[13:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Da_Putzler, Fine line between up to date. and safe tested programs
[13:16] <Ace2016> Whats the command to start gnome's network manager?
[13:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub | jabalsad
[13:16] <ubotu> jabalsad: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:16] <jabalsad> ta
[13:16] <jrib> Da_Putzler: realize that at least all of the security fixes are (supposed to be) taken care of with updates from the repos
[13:16] <casper72> hello
[13:16] <casper72> !list
[13:16] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:16] <Da_Putzler> I take it once the latest version of Java has been tested, it'll appear in the repo's ??
[13:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Ace2016, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start    ?
[13:18] <Ace2016> start gdm? why?
[13:18] <heogen> Jrib I dont remember how i see my card of the tv in my laptop
[13:19] <davedorm> yo yo yo
[13:19] <gvsa123> what does chmod a+x mean again?
[13:19] <heogen> jrib what command can i use for?
[13:19] <jrib> heogen: lspci | grep -i vga
[13:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Da_Putzler, I assume the focus is on the release in just a couple weeks and not on testing a minor jave update (since most people are not effected)  after that I am sure it will get put into Gutsyrepos..  I have forgotten my root password for an Ubuntu Server 7.10 I installed last night
[13:20] <jrib> !unrar > IsotropicSpin (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:20] <Ace2016> jrib: but what is the a for? all?
[13:20] <davedorm> I changed it and FORGOT it
[13:20] <jrib> Ace2016: yes
[13:20] <Ace2016> thanks
[13:20] <davedorm> is there any way short of reinstalling to get in?
[13:20] <Ace2016> davedorm: reinstall it
[13:20] <jrib> !root | davedorm
[13:20] <ubotu> davedorm: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:20] <gvsa123> jrib: what if you only want specific people to have that permission?
[13:20] <jrib> davedorm: there is no root password
[13:20] <Da_Putzler> I tried updating to Hardy, but after downloading all the new repo's it failed to install giving an error...
[13:20] <davedorm> yes there is
[13:20] <davedorm> I made one
[13:20] <Ace2016> sudo passwd root, and change it? is that possible?
[13:20] <davedorm> <- not a n00b
[13:20] <jrib> !enter | davedorm
[13:20] <ubotu> davedorm: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[13:20] <Jack_Sparrow> davedorm, You cant recover ti.. you can only change it (physical access to the box etc)
[13:20] <davedorm> no, there is no sudoer group set up
[13:21] <Ace2016> lol
[13:21] <davedorm> Jack_Sparrow: fair enough
[13:21] <davedorm> I am sitting right in front of it
[13:21] <Ace2016> livecd modify configs to add sudoers?
[13:21] <jrib> davedorm: reboot, edit the grub line and append "init=/bin/sh" or boot a live cd and chroot to your installation
[13:21] <davedorm> Ace2016: it wasa server install, not a livecd
[13:21] <Ace2016> well download and boot a live cd
[13:21] <davedorm> jrib: cool.. stand by
[13:21] <Ace2016> doesn't sound worth it though
[13:21] <DOOM_NX> when i change the .asoundrc are the changes applied immediately?
[13:22] <Ace2016> no
[13:22] <gvsa123> i get this 17 Mar 05:17:58 ntpdate[7460]: no server suitable for synchronization found when doing sudo ntpdate -u ntp.ubuntu.com
[13:22] <minimec> Da_Putzler: Do you have enough free diskspace?
[13:22] <DOOM_NX> what do i have to do?
[13:22] <DOOM_NX> restart X?
[13:22] <Jack_Sparrow> DOOM_NX, I would think that would require restarting x
[13:22] <Ace2016> DOOM_NX: logout and login for changes to take effec
[13:22] <Ace2016> t
[13:22] <DOOM_NX> thank u
[13:23] <heogen> Jrib my laptop has  VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[13:23] <Ace2016> might need a reboot though
[13:23] <Fallenou> hi, where are the "hardware testing" report sent to in the launchpad web site ? i wanna see my own report :o
[13:23] <jrib> heogen: no idea about those cards
[13:23] <Da_Putzler> oh yeah... got a 30gb filesystem