[12:41] <ikonia> Darkmystere: ask in ##windows for windows software
[12:41] <Darkmystere> im guna give ubuntu 65/80Gb lol
[12:41] <ikonia> !lol | Darkmystere
[12:41] <ubotu> Darkmystere: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[12:41] <MindSpark> Darkmystere, to avoid needless backups, make sure you partition those 65 well
[12:41] <Darkmystere> cy
[12:41] <Odd-rationale> What is the equivilent command line for "complete remove" package in Synaptic?
[12:41] <MindSpark> Darkmystere, set some space for /, some for /usr and some for /home maybe
[12:42] <Pici> Odd-rationale: apt-get remove --purge packagename
[12:42] <ikonia> Odd-rationale: apt-get remove or remove --purge
[12:42] <ikonia> MindSpark: seperate /usr ?
[12:42] <Odd-rationale> Pici, ikonia: Thanks!
[12:42] <Odd-rationale> Pici: Will aptitude work as well?
[12:42] <MindSpark> ikonia, yea, sometimes you might want to have a place for all the programs alone.
[12:43] <ikonia> MindSpark: that methodolgy died years ago
[12:43] <Pici> Odd-rationale: yeah, but its `aptitude purge package` then
[12:43] <Odd-rationale> Pici: OK!
[12:43] <MindSpark> ikonia, yea ? why so ?
[12:43] <ikonia> MindSpark: because disks are bigger than 2 gig now
[12:44] <MindSpark> ikonia, yea, but sometimes you would want to replace the place where you have your programs with a larger volume still.
[12:44] <ikonia> MindSpark: why ?
[12:44] <roshan> Hi All, is there any command or software to restart my modem? I have a broadband connection. I can restart it from its web interface but i want a command or software to do it.
[12:44]  * randomwalker feels nostalgic about the time when disks where 100 megs
[12:44] <MindSpark> let's say I am on 20 Gigs, and I fill'em up with whatever nonsense proggies
[12:44] <ikonia> MindSpark: if /usr is on / partition you don't have to resize anything.....ever
[12:45]  * ct529 going for lunch
[12:45] <ikonia> !away > ct529
[12:45] <MindSpark> ikonia, yea, I guess. I just still have the picture in my mind since mandrake 8
[12:45] <MindSpark> of the installer that is
[12:45] <ikonia> MindSpark: as I said, that methodology died years ago for non-enterprise systems
[12:45] <MindSpark> ahuh
[12:45] <MindSpark> I might still consider it in some cases though
[12:46] <MindSpark> let's say I want to reinstall, just to reset /etc
[12:46] <fatih> I have a big problem with all direct connect clients in ubuntu. When i connect hub ( 10.000 users nearly) cpu usage goes 100 % and stays like that. I tried with all clients for ubuntu and had same result. Can someone recommend me something?
[12:46] <fatih> I have a big problem with all direct connect clients in ubuntu. When i connect hub ( 10.000 users nearly) cpu usage goes 100 % and stays like that. I tried with all clients for ubuntu and had same result. Can someone recommend me something?
[12:46] <MindSpark> I could just unmount /usr and remount it after installation
[12:46] <ikonia> MindSpark: if you have an /etc/ out of sync with your /usr applications then it will break
[12:46] <ikonia> MindSpark: do what you wish, just be careful what you suggest to others
[12:47] <MindSpark> huh ? I didn't suggest anything harmful
[12:47] <MindSpark> in fact, just like you said, that IS how it was done a couple of years ago
[12:47] <ikonia> MindSpark: about 9 years ago
[12:47] <ikonia> MindSpark: it makes it hard for a user to manage space who is knew
[12:47] <ikonia> new
[12:47] <MindSpark> so what ? that doesn't mean that it would be bad in any way to do it now
[12:47] <ikonia> MindSpark: it does for new users to manage space
[12:48] <fatih> Finished ???
[12:48] <MindSpark> "set some space for /, some for /usr and some for /home MAYBE" <---
[12:48] <ikonia> MindSpark: for someone who doesn't know better they will follow that
[12:49] <MindSpark> ah, whatever, Mr. perfect
[12:49] <ikonia> MindSpark: nice attitude
[12:49] <MindSpark> aw c'mon, I was just trying to help
[12:49] <fatih> I have a big problem with all direct connect clients in ubuntu. When i connect hub ( 10.000 users nearly) cpu usage goes 100 % and stays like that. I tried with all clients for ubuntu and had same result. Can someone recommend me something?
[12:49] <ikonia> MindSpark: I appriciate that which is why I'm saying consider what you say
[12:49] <MindSpark> instead of sitting there and waiting for someone to say a tiny small wrong thing
[12:50] <fatih> I have a big problem with all direct connect clients in ubuntu. When i connect hub ( 10.000 users nearly) cpu usage goes 100 % and stays like that. I tried with all clients for ubuntu and had same result. Can someone recommend me something?
[12:50] <fatih> I have a big problem with all direct connect clients in ubuntu. When i connect hub ( 10.000 users nearly) cpu usage goes 100 % and stays like that. I tried with all clients for ubuntu and had same result. Can someone recommend me something?
[12:50] <fatih> I have a big problem with all direct connect clients in ubuntu. When i connect hub ( 10.000 users nearly) cpu usage goes 100 % and stays like that. I tried with all clients for ubuntu and had same result. Can someone recommend me something?
[12:50] <fatih> I have a big problem with all direct connect clients in ubuntu. When i connect hub ( 10.000 users nearly) cpu usage goes 100 % and stays like that. I tried with all clients for ubuntu and had same result. Can someone recommend me something?
[12:50] <ikonia> MindSpark: when that small thing can cause issues for users, I'm requesting you think about what you advice
[12:50] <ikonia> !ops | fath flooding
[12:50] <ubotu> fath flooding: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[12:51] <Pici> !away > Lumbuntu|AFK (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[12:51] <elkbuntu> remove the ban if you think appropriate, Seveas
[12:51] <ikonia> Pici: too quick
[12:51] <MindSpark> it won't cause issues, you can trust me on that
[12:51] <Pici> ikonia: yeah ;)
[12:51] <ikonia> MindSpark: it can cause issues, just consider what your advising people
[12:52] <ikonia> MindSpark: especially new users
[12:52] <Seveas> elkbuntu, fine with me :)
[12:52] <biggles> I need some help with the alsa-config for my hvr-1300 under ubuntu 7.10 ... anybody out here ??
[12:52] <MindSpark> ikonia, I am !
[12:52] <ikonia> MindSpark: great
[12:53] <infidel> !dvd
[12:53] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:59] <marko-_-> does ubuntu has someting like disk defragmenter
[12:59] <marko-_-> ?
[12:59] <ZaZ> I think that ext3 don't need desfragmenter
[12:59] <Pici> marko-_-: Its generally not needed, ext3 is more effecient than Windows formats.
[12:59] <erawfish> while it does for most filesystems it's very very rarely needed
[12:59]  * larswey agrees
[12:59] <astro76> !defrag | marko-_-
[13:00] <ubotu> marko-_-: The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[13:00] <erawfish> ZaZ: there are corner cases which do
[13:00] <erawfish> but even if fragmented, ext3 copes better than windows
[13:00] <larswey> windows or ntfs?
[13:00] <erawfish> ntfs
[13:01] <larswey> :>
[13:01] <Sheikh_Abdullah_> <:
[13:01] <erawfish> but ntfs and fat where fat is even wors. therfore windows (filesystems)
[13:01] <larswey> ..
[13:02] <szurik> Ha Ha
[13:02] <void^> there are some cases where awful fragmentation comes up .. like if you fill a sparse file randomly with mmap you get a horribly fragmented file even on an empty ext3 filesystem
[13:02] <ikonia> void^: mmap?
[13:03] <void^> a system call, as opposed to simple write()
[13:03] <larson9999> yay! miro works with gutsy and sun java again!
[13:03] <ikonia> void^: how do you fill a disk with system calls ?
[13:05] <void^> ikonia: uh. anything you do involves system calls, even if there's a dozen abstraction layers between you and them. :-)
[13:06] <goodhabit> Hello. I'm searching analog of krusader on kde or totalcommander on win.
[13:07] <ikonia> void^: but how do you fill a disk with it ?
[13:07] <InspectorCluseau> goodhabit, try mc
[13:07] <goodhabit> I need GUI application.
[13:08] <goodhabit> I have installed ubuntu for my mother.
[13:08] <goodhabit> Dunno why, she dislikes terminal...
[13:08] <goodhabit> :)
[13:08] <WorkingOnWise> I have asked in #ubuntu+1 but got no answer, and I suspect the solution is the same for gutsy and hardy. Fresh install of Hardy. All the updates in. Restricted driver manager say the restricted video drivers are not in use, but the box is checked. when i click the box, I get the error "Reconfiguring X.org video drivers is not possible: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is invalid or does not exist." What do I do?
[13:08] <void^> ikonia: create a file and write data?
[13:08] <Pici> goodhabit: Nautilus? Thunar?
[13:08] <ikonia> void^: yes, but thats not filling it up with a system call, thats filling it up with date.
[13:08] <Pici> WorkingOnWise: It is not the same, Hardy and Gutsy have different versions of xorg.
[13:09] <ikonia> void^: I'm hoping I've miss-read what you where suggesting
[13:09] <void^> ...
[13:09] <nantax> i have just installed ubuntu 7.10 on a new core 2 duo machine and during boot time, the monitor will "die" it will act as if its not connected to the cpu, after a few seconds, ubuntu will load up fine. i noticed this on the newer computers, anybody experienced this?
[13:09] <void^> ikonia: it should be obvious i meant "fill a sparse file randomly _using_ mmap"
[13:10] <ikonia> void^: well, it wasn't obvious
[13:10] <ikonia> void^: or at least not to me
[13:10] <InspectorCluseau> goodhabit,  look for bsc
[13:10] <WorkingOnWise> Pici: what would you do if this were a gutsy install?  :D
[13:10] <ikonia> WorkingOnWise: ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:10] <InspectorCluseau> try locate bsc on your system
[13:10] <InspectorCluseau> or google it
[13:11] <muesli_> hey guys, i'm trying to update my system with apt-get, but somehow the status file seems broken from a previous (broken) update
[13:11] <muesli_> i currently get "E: read, still have 1 to read but none left" at the end of every apt-get update
[13:11] <muesli_> what can i do to resolve it?
[13:12] <DarthBuh> Yay, I'm back
[13:12] <iNtERrUpT> hi guys
[13:12] <Tyroazard> Okay, I've used the xubuntu Live CD on the mac, and now it just displays a black screen
[13:13] <carl_> hi guys
[13:13] <Tyroazard> I'm not sure if this is an improvement over only showing a underscore.
[13:13] <Tyroazard> Hello.
[13:13] <iNtERrUpT> .
[13:13] <DarthBuh> Anyone have experience with FakeRAID?
[13:14] <marvin_mr> hello. i have downloaded and installed ati and ubuntu drivers for radeo x1300, but after restart screen goes blank (no errors at all). if seems that x loads wih no problems with gflrx, but nothing happens. any tips?
[13:15] <bullgard4> [Samba, http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/28798/] Auf dem zweiten Rechner sieht Nautilus unter smb://md97600/freigegebenMD die Datei 'config'. Wenn man mit Nautilus diese Datei in ein anderes Verzeichnis auf dem Zielrechner kopieren will, meldet der Zielrechner: "Fehler beim Kopieren. »smb://md976...  --  root@Amilo7600:~# gnomevf
[13:16] <Seveas> !de | bullgard4
[13:16] <ubotu> bullgard4: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[13:17] <goodhabit> Guys - another problem. I'm starting firefox. Opening page with flash. Firefox tells me what I must install flash. I'm clicking on install it, choosing adobe, then ff ask for restart. But after restart he is still missing flash installation. How I can solve it?
[13:18] <dgjones> !brokenflash | goodhabit
[13:18] <ubotu> goodhabit: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[13:18] <marko-_-> i have a question again... it might sound... stupid well... when i open a map it need 1 or 2 seconds to open it... why so long ? everything else works fine and fast.
[13:18] <DarthBuh> Is anyone familiar with a software RAID0 setup?
[13:18] <dgjones> !gnash | goodhabit, This is a good alternative to the official flash download, it doesn't work on every site, but its worth trying while waiting for the flash installation to be fixed
[13:18] <ubotu> goodhabit, This is a good alternative to the official flash download, it doesn't work on every site, but its worth trying while waiting for the flash installation to be fixed: An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[13:18] <kkk> hi guys
[13:19] <ikonia> DarthBuh: yes
[13:19] <DarthBuh> I'm stuck on one of the steps
[13:19] <ikonia> DarthBuh: which ones
[13:19] <bauer_>  Hey i would like to install spamassasin. Howto ?
[13:19] <kkk> hi gays?
[13:19] <DarthBuh> I've installed dmraid, and used fdisk to create partitions on the array
[13:19] <marko-_-> does someone know ?
[13:19] <DarthBuh> but when I try to mkfs, it says the partitions do not exist
[13:19] <goodhabit> dgjones, is ghash able to support sites like youtube etc?
[13:19] <ikonia> DarthBuh: what command are you using exactly
[13:20] <iNtERrUpT> goohabit, I guess it's not.
[13:20] <iNtERrUpT> goodhabit
[13:20] <ikonia> goodhabit: it's dependability is getting better, but for me it's still unusable
[13:20] <DarthBuh> I'm using mkfs.ext? (?=2/3) -t /dev/mapper/sil_aiabbjceffca1
[13:20] <dgjones> goodhabit, i'm not sure about youtube, I've got a feeling it doesn't always work, I tried youtube the other day with gnash and it worked ok for me, but other people i've heard do have problems
[13:20] <DarthBuh> it doesn't work with ext2 or ext3
[13:20] <kkk> wow
[13:21] <ikonia> DarthBuh: you just want mkewfs -j /dev/md0
[13:21] <goodhabit> Maybe someone can help me with a simple link - a bot link is too hard to translate (bad english (( )
[13:21] <kkk> then suck harddisk
[13:21] <ikonia> kkk: what ?
[13:21] <ikonia> goodhabit: what is the question
[13:21] <goodhabit> ikonia, firefox + flash.
[13:21] <ikonia> goodhabit: what about it
[13:21] <punkshui> Totem is squishing my movies horizontally... any suggestions?
[13:21] <DarthBuh> command not found
[13:21] <iNtERrUpT> !brokenflash | goodhabit
[13:21] <ubotu> goodhabit: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[13:21] <ikonia> DarthBuh: mke2fs -j sorry
[13:22] <goodhabit> iNtERrUpT, Maybe you can help me with a simple link - a bot link is too hard to translate (bad english (( )
[13:22] <ikonia> goodhabit: the flash plugin is broke currently
[13:22] <DarthBuh> Could not stat /dev/md0 --- No such file or directory
[13:22] <DarthBuh> You'll have to forgive me ikonia, I'm brand new
[13:22] <DarthBuh> I've been stuck on this for 3.5 days
[13:22] <kane_> what bot is ubotu? I want bot like that for my channel
[13:23] <bazhang> !bot
[13:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[13:23] <ikonia> DarthBuh: how are you creating the raid0 volume ?
[13:23] <DarthBuh> dmraid
[13:23] <kkk> windowxp is cool
[13:23] <DarthBuh> the software controller in the bios is already up and going
[13:23] <DarthBuh> and dmraid recognizes it
[13:24] <bazhang> kkk: wrong channel
[13:24] <DarthBuh> I'm partitioning it using fdisk
[13:24] <ikonia> kkk: if you have no ubuntu support question please don't troll the channel
[13:24] <bauer_> kick kkk
[13:24] <aniac> hi guys! I have a general question:
[13:24] <ikonia> DarthBuh: ahh, I don't support dmraid as fake raid technology is not good under any unix platform
[13:24] <kkk> sorry TT
[13:24] <ikonia> aniac: if it's an ubuntu question, shoot

[13:24] <aniac> I'm trying to connect to #java and I get a message that I have to be identified
[13:24] <koen> hi, how can i see if my ubuntu runs using acpi?
[13:24] <aniac> (sorrry it isnt but havent where else to ask)
[13:24] <DarthBuh> the wikis are of no assistance
[13:24] <ikonia> aniac: join #freenode and ask
[13:25] <bazhang> aniac: as in register?
[13:25] <aniac> ok thnx ;)
[13:25] <ikonia> DarthBuh: fake raid is a bad technology
[13:25] <DarthBuh> worked fine under WinXP for 5 years
[13:25] <aniac> bazhang ?
[13:25] <koen> i have qutsy gibbon, with (out of the box) acpi-support, acpi and acpid packages installed
[13:25] <larswey> #java channel is for registerd users only
[13:25] <bauer_>  Hey i would like to install spamassasin. Howto ?
[13:25] <larswey> use nickserv to auth
[13:25] <bazhang> aniac: you may have to register first
[13:25] <kane_> and it's ##java anyway
[13:26] <duudii> aniac: registering with nickserv might help. ie. "/msg nickserv register <password>" and then "/msg nickserv identify <password>"
[13:26] <aniac> aha, smth like /register aniac?
[13:26] <ikonia> DarthBuh: as I said not in linux, its propritary windows
[13:27] <_nmap> how can i install gkrellm ou similar with apt-get?
[13:27] <aniac> ok man thnx! toooo many years to use such functions ;)
[13:27] <iNtERrUpT> how can i fix my gnome problem. sometimes my gnome isn't able to start.
[13:28] <kkk> help i can't install ubuntu ..
[13:28] <koen>  hi, how can i see if my ubuntu runs using acpi?
[13:28] <iNtERrUpT> koen, I guess... kernel params?
[13:28] <koen> how do you check them? is there a cmd line for?
[13:29] <iNtERrUpT> check /proc.
[13:29] <iNtERrUpT> i am not sure.
[13:29] <hk2999> koen: acpi -V?
[13:30] <kkk> !ask
[13:30] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:30] <koen> hk2999 0.09
[13:30] <koen> packages acpi, acpid and acpi-support are installed
[13:30] <koen> out of the box
[13:31] <marvin_mr> hello again. has anyone managet to install ati drivers for x1300?
[13:31] <twager> How do I get explode running in compiz ?
[13:31] <duudii> marvin_mr: which driver are you trying to install?
[13:32] <DarthBuh> I don't understand why fdisk is showing partitions, but then mkfs cannot find them
[13:32] <bauer_> does ubuntu support spamassasin ?
[13:32] <ikonia> bauer_: there is apackage for it yes
[13:33] <marvin_mr> duudii: i isntalled ati catalyst and restricted drived, but after restart screen goes blank when x is started.
[13:33] <koen> hk2999 it is v0.09, does that means it is running?
[13:33] <hk2999> mine is No support for device type: thermal so i guess yours work
[13:33] <koen> and in /proc there is a folder "acpi"
[13:34] <koen> tahnks
[13:34] <DarthBuh> and why does Gparted close every single time you do anything at all?
[13:34] <koen> DarthBuh
[13:35] <koen> what version is it? and what version of Ubuntu you have
[13:35] <DarthBuh> Gparted 0.3.3-2ubuntu6, and Ubuntu 7.10
[13:35] <iNtERrUpT> koen, add acpi=on to kernel params. i am not sure.
[13:35] <ikonia> acpi is on by default
[13:35] <duudii> marvin_mr: latest fglrx driver im assuming.... have you reconfigured X, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[13:36] <iNtERrUpT> ikonia, oh yeah? i didn't know that. thx for good information.
[13:36] <junix-work> is there a otrs2 pacakge in ubuntu??
[13:36] <junix-work> i don't have it installed
[13:36] <koen> DarthBuh,  sorry don't know it in that case
[13:36] <junix-work> or si there a way to serach ?
[13:37] <musli> someone who know how to put in manually a port that you trust in firestarter?
[13:37] <DarthBuh> Are there any good GUI partitioning tools?
[13:37] <ikonia> musli: firestart is a gui
[13:37] <hk2999> gparted DarthBuh
[13:37] <ikonia> DarthBuh: gparted
[13:37] <kane_> Darkhack, gparted
[13:37] <koen> DarthBuh, you can always use the LiveCD of Gparted, google for it. It is the safest way to partition your drives in my opinion
[13:37] <marvin_mr> duudii		: latest, yes. i had to reconfigure to select vesa, othewise i cannor use ubuntu.
[13:37] <DarthBuh> Soz
[13:37] <DarthBuh> I meant Filesystem
[13:37] <DarthBuh> You guys are so fast though >.<
[13:38] <kane_> gui filesystem?
[13:38] <ikonia> DarthBuh: gparted can be used to put file systems on
[13:38] <DarthBuh> and Gparted doesn't support RAID
[13:38] <marvin_mr> duudii: this is good news, though :) with previous driver things simply crashed.
[13:38] <DarthBuh> every time I try to put a filesystem into my fdisk created partitions, Gparted wipes them out
[13:39] <ikonia> DarthBuh: do you do "w" to quit fdisk ?
[13:39] <DarthBuh> Yes
[13:39] <ikonia> DarthBuh: doesn't look like your changes are being written
[13:39] <DarthBuh> says there's a ioctl error, then gives me an error 22
[13:40] <DarthBuh> WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument.
[13:40] <duudii> marvin_mr: vesa always works, but you won't have any 3d acceleration. have you installed the package "xserver-xgl"
[13:40] <duudii> ?
[13:40] <dgjones> DarthBuh, are you modifying a mounted partition or have you unmounted the partition?
[13:40] <ikonia> DarthBuh: possibly because its fakeraid
[13:41] <DarthBuh> It's fakeraid
[13:41] <marvin_mr> duudii: is that installed after i select "restricted drivers" and wait for download to finish?
[13:41] <DarthBuh> The partition has never been mounted
[13:41] <ikonia> DarthBuh: so ?
[13:41] <duudii> marvin_mr: you could also install the driver again, using method 2 on this site http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[13:41] <ikonia> DarthBuh: as I said fakeraid support/stability is very poor with linux
[13:41] <billlyboy> hello, im having an issue with xorg, screenshots here: http://www.ihateyoujulia.com/?id=cb90842d97a5944b097c64c50dc04e5b
[13:41] <duudii> marvin_mr: maybe, maybe not.. :P
[13:41] <marko-_-> i have a question again... it might sound... stupid well... when i open a map it need 1 or 2 seconds to open it... why so long ? everything else works fine and fast.
[13:41] <musli> ikonia: yes it is
[13:41] <nicola_> hello, i've installed and configured mpd but when i open sonata i can't see my songs..
[13:41] <DarthBuh> But I'm following the wiki to a T
[13:42] <DarthBuh> and they seem to leave this step out
[13:42] <ikonia> musli: it is what ?
[13:42] <DarthBuh> ..all of them
[13:42] <ikonia> !fakeraid
[13:42] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[13:42] <ikonia> DarthBuh: there you go, any of those help
[13:42] <dgjones> !ops | billlyboy (serial spammer is back)
[13:42] <ubotu> billlyboy (serial spammer is back): Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
[13:42] <musli> ikonia:  firestarter gui..how can i configurate it?? i want a diffrent port to be trusted
[13:43] <ikonia> musli: open the gui and add a port
[13:43] <xomp> Could someone please assist me with VPN? I need to verify that I have a Cisco VPN client installed on my ubuntu box. I think I have vpnc installed but am not 100% sure on that.
[13:43] <marvin_mr> duudii: nex time i'm definitely buying nvidia
[13:44] <musli> ikonia: i cant there is a rollbar with trusted ports allready there that i can choose but i cant alter them, im running ftp and i dont want to use port 21
[13:44] <duudii> marvin_mr: same here hehe...
[13:44] <kkk> can ubuntu setting by double monitor ? and can? each monitor run each user? if that can  how?
[13:45] <ikonia> kkk: that question make little sense, could you try to explain it again
[13:45] <marvin_mr> duudii: i won'r try that second method - the driver is not ok ant that's it. i may try instal catayst again- maybe it helps, but i doubt. thanks for tips!
[13:47] <th0r> kkk you can run two monitors on ubuntu, but no, both monitors must be for the same user...you can't log into each separately
[13:47] <sigra> Is there way get your theme and all settings you want then make it into a iso to install on other systems?
[13:48] <kkk> th0r: Thank!
[13:48] <xomp> Ok, I found out that I have vpnc & PPP generic installed. Is there anything else I may need to get my Cisco VPN working?
[13:48] <jrib> sigra: all your user's settings are in ~/.*
[13:48] <th0r> ikonia it helps to have lived overseas for a while <smile>
[13:49] <monkeyBox> Is there a way to see which software source a particular package came from?
[13:49] <sigra> yes.  but i want know how to make a cd of ubuntu that i can install on others..and it have all the stuff i have on my computer now and the theme showing
[13:49] <sigra> iso cd
[13:50] <fedora_> guys i have nokia n73 and i use nokia pcsuie to connect it to yy xp box
[13:50] <fedora_> how can i connect it to ubuntu
[13:50] <hk2999> sigra: why not just copy your themes to the new cd
[13:50] <hk2999> *pc*
[13:50] <jonkev14> can anyone help me reinstall by bootloader?
[13:50] <jrib> sigra: I would just copy over the ~/.* directories to your new user.  But maybe you want:
[13:50] <jrib> !customlivecd > sigra (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:51] <herumor> i have a question
[13:51] <DarthBuh> I got something going...
[13:51] <sigra> k thanks
[13:51] <hk2999> !customlivecd > hk2999
[13:51] <DarthBuh> I ran mkfs.ext3 -t /dev/mapper/sil_aiabbjceffca2
[13:51] <herumor> on my mother i have 4 SATA black and 4 SATA red
[13:51] <_nmap> How can i install gkrellm with apt-get?
[13:51] <herumor> what is the difffrence ?
[13:51] <DarthBuh> and now it's checking for bad blocks
[13:52] <jrib> _nmap: sudo apt-get install gkrellm
[13:52] <jrib> !apt > _nmap (read the private message from ubotu)
[13:52] <DarthBuh> That is good?
[13:52] <fedora_> hey guys some one help me
[13:52] <fedora_> how can i connect my nokia n73 from ubuntu
[13:53] <fedora_> i use nokia pc suite to connect it to my xp sys
[13:53] <kkk> wow
[13:53] <jonkev14> i lost my boot partition on my ubuntu drive but my files are still therecan some help me reinstall the bootloader without formating my drive?
[13:53] <th0r> jonkev14 give me a sec
[13:54] <jonkev14> thank you thor
[13:54] <phenom> Any one happen to know why I get this error when I unmount a drive? "cannot unmount volume, cannot remove directory"? umount works fine on it, but when I right click to unmount it it spits out that error and then another blank error dialog :/
[13:54] <fedora_> guys i am using nokia n73 and use nokia pcsuite to connect it to my xp sys how can i connect it tto ubuntu
[13:54] <phenom> I am sure there are no processes holding it up.
[13:55] <iNtERrUpT> phenom, try to reboot
[13:55] <kkk> nokia?? is not phone?
[13:55] <fedora_> nokia N73
[13:56] <fedora_> its phone
[13:56] <fedora_> cell
[13:56] <phenom> iNtERrUpT, yes :)
[13:56] <hj> hello
[13:56] <iNtERrUpT> hello
[13:56] <hk2999> !ask
[13:56] <ubotu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:56] <dgjones> !grub > jonkev14
[13:56] <kkk> wow cool.... but pc and pone not same cpu?
[13:57] <Trae> how do you use locate to search for things only in the current directory you are in?  like I'm in /home/myhome/   I want to use locate to search for things only in that dir.
[13:57] <Spee_Der> monkeyBox, I use kpackage for that info
[13:57] <phenom> Something I did within the past few days borked it :/
[13:57] <th0r> jonkev14 hang on...just double checking
[13:57] <xomp> Ok, I found out that I have vpnc & PPP generic installed. Is there anything else I may need to get my Cisco VPN working?
[13:58] <Spee_Der> Trae, open a terminal window and type man locate
[13:58] <th0r> jonkev14 ok...here are my notes... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51890/ and here is the forum post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[13:58] <Trae> Spee_Der, you don't know either.  Thanks.
[13:58] <Spee_Der> Trae, you will see the options for locate there
[13:59] <Trae> Spee_Der, telling someone to "man $foo" is the biggest copout.  and non-help.
[13:59] <Trae> Spee_Der, you are better off simply not offering help.  Thanks though.
[13:59] <Spee_Der> Trae, it only helps to read and understand the manual, for anything, not a cop out.... ..
[13:59] <hj> good night!
[14:01] <Spee_Der> Trae, I'm not here for an argument. RTFM, is know as read the f******* manual. duh
[14:01] <Trae> Spee_Der, I tried the example already they have and it didn't work.  STFU you elitist arse
[14:02] <th0r> not like locate is rocket science
[14:02] <Trae> it's mentality like that... that continues to hold Linux back.
[14:02] <jonkev14> thor do i but the bootloader on the linux drive?
[14:02] <th0r> jonkev14 the bootloader should go on the drive that is set up in the bios as the boot drive...normally drive 0 unless you changed it
[14:02] <fairyEneried> hello, guys
[14:02] <fairyEneried> how are you?
[14:03] <Gearsmith> Hey.
[14:03] <Spee_Der> Hey Gear
[14:04] <jonkev14> so are you saying the windows drive then
[14:04] <Gearsmith> I installed Ubuntu last week and accidentally installed it on top of my WIndows, but I love it.
[14:04] <jonkev14> i dont know what drive i 0
[14:04] <Spee_Der> Trae, slocate [-qi] [-d <path>] [--database=<path1:path2:...>  <search string>
[14:04] <Gearsmith> The only problem I've noticed is that Linux gets no support from most online games. >_<
[14:05] <W8TAH> hi folks -- im installing build essential and some other packages on a ubuntu 6.06LTS server box -- it has a number of suggested and recomended packages in the list - -how do i accept them as well as the ones that it says will be installed
[14:05] <Trae> Spee_Der, seriously..... this channel has a history of great help from people like Crimsun, bob2 others...   if all you have to do is offer someone to look at the man pages, then perhaps you should just stay quiet.
[14:05] <Spee_Der> Gearsmith, I've been looking for some nice simulator stuff, but it going to be awhile....
[14:05] <th0r> Spee_Der Trae i don't think locate can do what you want. it searches a database, not a path, so you can't tell it to just search part of the drive
[14:05] <Spee_Der> Trae, not sure what your problem is mate, but I just showed you how to do it......
[14:05] <Trae> th0r, hmmm  perhaps not...
[14:05] <th0r> Trae Spee_Der however, you can use grep to sift through the results
[14:06] <_nmap> jrib: thanks for help, but apt-get dont find any package named gkrellm... Do you know the correct packcage name of gkrellm?
[14:06] <th0r>  Trae Spee_Der try 'locate fstab | grep etc
[14:06] <jrib> !info gkrellm | _nmap
[14:06] <W8TAH> _nmap, gkrellm2
[14:06] <Trae> Spee_Der, sorry I have a short fuse today.... but... .  telling someone to "man blah" on irc is one of my biggest pet peeves.
[14:06] <ubotu> _nmap: gkrellm: The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.10-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 776 kB, installed size 2160 kB
[14:06] <jrib> _nmap: you need to enable universe
[14:06] <th0r>  Trae Spee_Der or 'locate bin' vs 'locate bin | grep etc'
[14:06] <jrib> !universe > _nmap (read the private message from ubotu)
[14:07] <dynacrylic> i've got apache running 6.06 LTS running apache. I can access http:localhost, but I can't access it from another computer. I turned the firewall off.  What am i overlooking as to why I can't access it from another computer?
[14:07] <_nmap> thanks,
[14:07] <Trae> th0r, yeah I'm looking for a file name somewhere in the dirs... heh oh well.  thanks mate
[14:07] <Pici> dynacrylic: How are you trying to access it from the other computer? What address are you pointing it to?
[14:07] <Gearsmith> I wish I understood what anyone was talking about.
[14:07] <Gearsmith> :\
[14:07] <th0r> Trae you can limit the search by 'locate <filename> | grep home' for instance
[14:07] <phenom> Yea ok so,, the answer to my question: Deleting /media/.hal-mtab had fixed my can not remove directory errors. :)
[14:07] <dynacrylic> pici, just the computer's IP address
[14:08] <Trae> th0r, ahhhh
[14:08] <dynacrylic> not using a dns name
[14:08] <Trae> th0r, that is useful ;)
[14:08] <plutarcus> hi all
[14:08] <dynacrylic> I'm trying to access it using a web browser
[14:08] <goldsniper> hi evrybody
[14:08] <th0r> Trae the database search even on a large drive is very fast...so no need to limit the search itself
[14:08] <Gearsmith> Has anyone ever gotten a virus using Ubuntu?
[14:08] <Pici> !virus | Gearsmith
[14:08] <W8TAH> !info libpcap
[14:08] <ubotu> Gearsmith: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[14:08] <ubotu> Package libpcap does not exist in gutsy
[14:09] <Trae> th0r, yeah speed isn't what I'm worried about, results are long ;)
[14:09] <Pici> dynacrylic: Are you sure that your server is listening on that address?
[14:09] <W8TAH> !info libpcap0.8
[14:09] <ubotu> libpcap0.8: System interface for user-level packet capture. In component main, is standard. Version 0.9.7-1build1 (gutsy), package size 90 kB, installed size 236 kB
[14:09] <plutarcus> i'm having a problem with kiba-dock: when i click on the Firefox icon, Firefox starts, but with the Home Page as http://0/ and not google.com
[14:09] <th0r> Trae locate is the reason I learned to use grep <smile>
[14:09] <junix-work> i just installed ubuntu 7.10 server, i don't know my root password.  I never entered.  is it blank?
[14:09] <Pici> !root | junix-work
[14:09] <plutarcus> why and how can i solve?
[14:09] <ubotu> junix-work: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[14:09] <Trae> th0r, thanks though you got me what I needed mate, I had a brain fart, not sure why I didn't think to grep the output  derrr..
[14:09] <Trae> lol
[14:09] <goldsniper> please help me... i am struggling with internet connection sharing... i did research on the forum, read the documentation yet still fail..help please
[14:09] <Gearsmith> Thanks Pici.
[14:09] <duudii> junix-work: root pass is that pass you gave for the 1st user you created
[14:10] <dynacrylic> pici, i think so... how do i verify it?
[14:10] <Pici> Trae, th0r: or just use: `find ~/home/ -iname "filename.ext"`
[14:10] <junix-work> duudii, oh
[14:10] <goldsniper> try to use firestater but fail
[14:10] <mraudsepp> Hello. How can I get a 64bit kernel to work for an otherwise 32bit system install? I need to chroot into a 64bit system
[14:10] <th0r> Pici  actually locate is inmy experience faster than find
[14:10] <duudii> junix-work: at least it should be so
[14:10] <junix-work> k
[14:10] <junix-work> i can su to root, right?
[14:10] <goldsniper> firestater said device eth1 not ready
[14:11] <W8TAH> junix-work, no - -use sudo
[14:11] <junix-work> k
[14:11] <DarthBuh> Interesting
[14:11] <duudii> junix-work: yep, but its better to use 'sudo'
[14:11] <goldsniper> anyone has solution?
[14:11] <W8TAH> junix-work, as an old gentoo guy that took me a while to get used to but it really does work and is better
[14:11] <W8TAH> !info lookit |w8tah
[14:12] <goldsniper> i try to share my internet connection through my laptop wifi to my wife laptop (xp)
[14:12] <rever> what application will allow me to benchmark my nvidia 3d support?
[14:12] <goldsniper> im using gutsy
[14:12] <Pici> dynacrylic: I'm not sure, if you just installed the stock apache2 package it should already be listening on your ip address.
[14:12] <kernl> use in terminal glxgears -display
[14:12] <goldsniper> anyone? please enlighten me..
[14:12] <Pici> kernl,rever: glxgears is NOT a benchmark.
[14:13] <junix-work> duudii, its not working...
[14:13] <kernl> <.< it does say how many fps's though
[14:13] <junix-work> the password for my frist user isn't working
[14:13] <rever> Pici, I know that is why I am asking what I can use
[14:13] <kkk> how can make my pc looks like cubic? (in ubuntu
[14:13] <dynacrylic> pici, it was working and then i installed ssh openssh-server and then I can't access it from a broswer anymore
[14:13] <duudii> junix-work: does it tell you your pass is wrong?
[14:13] <Pici> dynacrylic: Can you still access it from the computer its running on?
[14:14] <ikonia> kkk: thats a cube effect in the compiz application
[14:14] <kkk> how kind!
[14:14] <duudii> junix-work: try the other passwords then... its gotta be one of them...
[14:14] <dynacrylic> pici, yes. using http://localhost
[14:14] <rizenine> Anyone here know/use the jeos version of server? 7.10? I've downloaded and md5'd it, but when I run the integrity on the CD ISO it fails. Says ./isolinux/boot.cat fails MD5.
[14:14] <rizenine> Anyone having this issue, or know of it?
[14:14] <DarthBuh> sudo mkswap -c /dev/mapper/sil_aiabbjceffca
[14:14] <DarthBuh> /dev/mapper/sil_aiabbjceffca: Device or resource busy
[14:14] <DarthBuh> ?
[14:14] <goldsniper> how to share internet with my laptop wifi?
[14:14] <rizenine> Should I just not use jeos?
[14:15] <kkk> ikonia: thnx
[14:15] <jjf> NEWSERVER irc.xkcd.com
[14:15] <ikonia> jjf: ?
[14:15] <jjf> sorry.  new to irc
[14:15] <Lartza_> is there a media player that syncs with ipod and plays videos from there?
[14:15] <jjf> trying to figure out how to join irc.xkcd.com
[14:15] <Lartza_> rhythmbox palys only music
[14:15] <Pici> rizenine: You probably have a corrupt download.
[14:15] <user11_011> why doesn't ubuntu have RSS fed screensaver
[14:15] <ikonia> jjf: /server
[14:15] <Pici> jjf: /server
[14:15] <dundel> i'm trying to install office 2003 on ubuntu with wine, but i need to do this: msxml to native windows.
[14:15] <jjf> thx
[14:15] <ikonia> user11_011: why should it
[14:15] <Pici> user11_011: it does.
[14:15] <dundel> but i can't find it in winecfg
[14:16] <user11_011> Pici: where. which pack?
[14:16] <user11_011> ikonia: just for fun
[14:16] <Tilllinux> heya guys. How would I add a ubuntu pc to a windows active directory / domain?
[14:16] <dgjones> dundel, you'll probably get a better answer in #winehq for wine queries
[14:16] <duudii> dundel: why do you want to use windows apps on linux? use open offive
[14:16] <winnie__> hey does anyone know python?
[14:16] <duudii> office
[14:16] <Pici> user11_011: But since gnome hides all the screensaver preferences, you wont be able to change the settings easily.
[14:16] <Pici> winnie__: yes, and #python.
[14:16] <winnie__> thank you pici
[14:16] <ikonia> Tilllinux: samba is the only real way
[14:17] <dundel> yes but some people, are using windows with powerpoint
[14:17] <Pici> user11_011: its in one of the xscreensaver-data-extra or xscreensavers-gl-extra package
[14:17] <Tilllinux> I read something about kerberos, but that was a redhat 9 thread I think
[14:17] <kkk> no trick,no boost
[14:17] <monacelli> thank god for livecd's
[14:17] <dundel> here
[14:17] <sung> j
[14:17] <Pici> user11_011: By default it shows Ubuntu's "The Fridge" feed iirc.
[14:17] <ikonia> Tilllinux redhat has a seperate directory server that makes things easier
[14:17] <monacelli> my hdd died on friday so all weekend i've been rockin the ubuntu and mint debian live cd's
[14:17] <Tilllinux> ikonia: hm. So do you have any helpful link for me ;) some point to start from?
[14:18] <duudii> dundel: openoffice should be able to handle that?
[14:18] <ikonia> Tilllinux: samba.org has some stunning documents (I'm reading one at the moment funy enough)
[14:18] <Tilllinux> okay thanks!
[14:18] <Pici> dynacrylic: Am I assuming correctly that you are testing it from other computers on the same network?
[14:18] <dundel> yes but it's not compatible with all the extra effects from powerpoint
[14:19] <dynacrylic> pici, yes, other computers cannot access it as well
[14:19] <Pici> dynacrylic: Do you have a gui on the server? Did you setup firestarter and any rules?
[14:19] <user11_011> Pici: Thanks.  let me install and get back
[14:19] <iNtERrUpT> o h shit
[14:19] <iNtERrUpT> what happend?
[14:19] <Pici> !language | iNtERrUpT
[14:19] <ubotu> iNtERrUpT: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[14:20] <stdin> !netsplit
[14:20] <Pici> !netsplit
[14:20] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[14:20] <dynacrylic> pici, yes it's gui. i installed firestarted before but I shut it off when I started having problems
[14:20] <_nix_> cool a netsplit
[14:20] <iNtERrUpT> good.
[14:20] <iNtERrUpT> lol.
[14:20] <Gimbli> ok, and now welcome them back ;)
[14:20] <DarthBuh> Help!
[14:21] <DarthBuh> The file system on /dev/mapper/sil_aiabbjceffca2 assigned to / has not been marked for formatting. File systems used by the system (/, /boot, /usr, /var) must be reformatted for use by this installer. Other file systems (/home, /media/*, /usr/local, etc.) may be used without reformatting.
[14:21] <Lartza_> is there a media player that syncs with ipod and plays videos from there?
[14:21] <rizenine> and now they're back
[14:21] <iNtERrUpT> great :)
[14:21] <Polysics> hi all!
[14:21] <ikonia> DarthBuh have you not grasped how to ask a question yet
[14:21] <Pici> dynacrylic: check `sudo netstat -tanp` and make sure that its listening on <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[14:21] <Polysics> upgrade is underway
[14:21] <iNtERrUpT> !netsplit
[14:21] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[14:21] <ikonia> iNtERrUpT: you've just seen that factoid, ehy ask for it again
[14:21] <DarthBuh> Seems no
[14:21] <Polysics> is anyone using KDE4 on 7.10?
[14:21] <PriceChild> !kde4 | Polysics
[14:21] <ubotu> Polysics: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:21] <iNtERrUpT> .. um sorry ..
[14:21] <ikonia> DarthBuh: just spell out the situation without HELP! LOL in a clear and factual manner
[14:22] <Polysics> thanks for telling me, i was asking abotu an opinion tho :-)
[14:22] <DarthBuh> Hm wait
[14:22] <DarthBuh> installing...
[14:22] <DarthBuh> <crosses fingers and squints>
[14:22] <goldsniper> how to do internet connection sharing ?
[14:23] <ikonia> goldsniper: either via iptables or a proxy like squid
[14:23] <hk2999> goldsniper: firestarter
[14:23] <hk2999> !firestarter > goldsniper
[14:23] <DarthBuh> Okay
[14:23] <DarthBuh> I'm trying to install, partitions are setup
[14:23] <Pici> !enter
[14:23] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[14:24] <Lartza_> what is lighttpd's default port?
[14:24] <kkk> how can i my pc connet my microwave oven and i control the oven by my pc?
[14:24] <ikonia> Lartza_: 80
[14:24] <_nix_> Lartza_: should be 80
[14:24] <ikonia> kkk: you've been asked to stop trolling 3 times now
[14:24] <Lartza_> ok
[14:24] <ikonia> kkk: last request, please stop
[14:24] <Polysics> oh, i was about to actually answer him :-)
[14:24] <_nix_> ikonia: what's trolling in it?
[14:24] <Lartza_> yes it is
[14:24] <ikonia> _nix_: he's been at it all day
[14:24] <goldsniper> ikonia, hk2999,ubotu, i tried firestater but its not working
[14:24] <_nix_> ahh..
[14:25] <ikonia> goldsniper: I do'nt support firestarter
[14:25] <kkk> ikonia : i can't ask 3time?
[14:25] <Lartza_> is it same port you use to connect internet?
[14:25] <_nix_> Lartza_: its port 80 what people use to connect to your web server listening at port 80
[14:25] <Polysics> ye olde ban sticke
[14:25] <mraudsepp> Hello. How can I get a 64bit kernel to work for an otherwise 32bit system install? I need to chroot into a 64bit system, but 7.10 doesn't seem to have a linux-image-amd64-generic and linux-image-generic gets me booted into a 32bit kernel per uname -m (and inability to chroot to 64bit system)
[14:25] <ikonia> mraudsepp: you can't
[14:25] <rexy_> i upgrade from amd 64 to amd X2, now freq scaling doesnt work anymore. Do i need to change to a different kernel since i went from single to dual core?
[14:25] <_nix_> Lartza_: you connect to the interenet from just abt any port..
[14:26] <hk2999> wow. thats the first guy i see banned here.
[14:26] <goldsniper> ikonia, i mean i tried to follow guides from the forum and the documentayion with still fail
[14:26] <mraudsepp> ikonia, what do you mean I can't? Does it mean I have to build my own kernel?
[14:26] <goldsniper> how to do internet sharing in ubuntu?
[14:26] <ikonia> mraudsepp: you can't run a 64 bit kernel on a 32bit machine
[14:26] <Lartza_> but if i set some porgram to listen port 80 and notify me when it has activity does it only notify when people connect to my server?
[14:26] <ikonia> goldsniper: iptables, or a proxy service like squid
[14:26] <mraudsepp> ikonia, I have a 64bit machine with a 32bit installation of edubuntu...
[14:26] <goldsniper> if i do not use frestater
[14:26] <peppo> how to install ping for an alternate 7.10 install? need to check if networking works. getting stuck at 6% at "Select and install software" on PS3.
[14:26] <Lartza_> or blink every time when i connect some website?
[14:26] <goldsniper> iptables?
[14:27] <_nix_> Lartza_: yup
[14:27] <ikonia> mraudsepp: you have a 32bit install - you cannot run 64bit software
[14:27] <Lartza_> because i know netgames use different ports
[14:27] <Polysics> when upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10, do you usually keep or substitue config files?
[14:27] <Lartza_> ok
[14:27] <rexy_> goldsniper: yes, firestarter is a program you can use to configure it
[14:27] <dynacrylic> pici, it says "unable to lookup name using gethostby()"
[14:27] <mraudsepp> ikonia, which is why I want to chroot into a 64bit install.
[14:27] <ikonia> mraudsepp: you can't do that
[14:27] <rexy_> goldsniper: but everything related to the firewall or nat is done through iptables
[14:27] <Lartza_> it blinks all the time then?
[14:27] <Polysics> iptables is still what is really doing the internet sharing
[14:27] <ikonia> mraudsepp: as the running kernel will still be 32bit
[14:27] <DarthBuh> and I get "The attempt to mount a file system with type swap in LVM VG sil_aiabbjceffca, LV sil_aiabbjceffca at none failed.  You may resume partitioning from the partitioning menu."
[14:27] <dynacrylic> or something close to that gethostby
[14:27] <mraudsepp> but that can be only done if the kernel is 64bit, and that is possible on a 32bit system.
[14:27] <Pici> dynacrylic: Did you modify your /etc/hostname ?
[14:27] <ikonia> mraudsepp: it's not possible
[14:27] <dynacrylic> pici, should i?
[14:27] <_nix_> Lartza_: blinks?? the lights?? yeah they blink on all outgoing/incoming data
[14:28] <Pici> dynacrylic: I'm asking if you did in the past.
[14:28] <anarchris> hey guys, I've noticed that logs are again available on irseek, whats up with that? Are the bots identifiable now?
[14:28] <chazco> Trying to decide if its worth moving to 64bit (hardware already supports it)...
[14:28] <dynacrylic> pici, i modified the /etc/hosts cause someone else told me to
[14:28] <ikonia> chazco: do you need it ? would you use the benifits ?
[14:28] <dynacrylic> but I made a backup before i made the changes. already reverted to the backup though
[14:28] <mraudsepp> ikonia, it is. I have done it on different distributions and earlier ubuntu versions had a linux-image-amd64-generic package that allowed to do exactly what I'm trying to do successfully for some people per google.
[14:28] <chazco> I'm unsure currently... it depends on what the benefits are... i'm told Virtualbox takes advantage of it
[14:28] <user11_011> Pici: in installed  xscreensaver-data-extra . how do i use it?
[14:29] <ikonia> mraudsepp: your welcome to think what you wish, but with a 32bit kernel running you will not be able to run any 64bit programs
[14:29] <Pici> user11_011: It just gets added to your screensavers automagically.
[14:29] <chazco> It also depends on whether 32-bit stuff runs eaisly on 64-bit (to take out incompatabilitys etc)
[14:29] <mraudsepp> ikonia, my question was precisely HOW can I install a 64bit kernel to my 7.10 edubuntu systme.
[14:29] <user11_011> Pici : nope .nothings changed. preferences->screensavers
[14:29] <Pici> dynacrylic: If you only changed /etc/hosts to change your hostname and not also /etc/hostname, then you have locked yourself out of using sudo.
[14:29] <ikonia> mraudsepp: you can't put a 64bit kernel on a 32bit system wihtout a lot of messing around
[14:29] <mraudsepp> the description of linux-generic says it's x86/x86_64
[14:29] <chazco> mraudsepp - To the best of my knowledge you can only reinstall, not upgrade, to 64 bit
[14:30] <dynacrylic> pici, oh
[14:30] <_nix_> mraudsepp: you need to install ubuntu 64 bit for that.. it ain't just the kernel
[14:30] <ikonia> mraudsepp: your miss-reading the description
[14:30] <gumpish> =/ What does it mean when your numeric keypad moves the mouse pointer 1 pixel at a time instead of doing pageup/pagedown or numbers?
[14:30] <osfameron> scroll lock?
[14:30] <DarthBuh> I think I just mad it angry..
[14:30] <Pici> user11_011: you may need to kill the xscreensaver or gnome-screensaver process, it should restart it automatically.
[14:30] <Pici> !hostname | dynacrylic
[14:30] <ubotu> dynacrylic: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[14:30] <dynacrylic> pici, that would explain why when i've been trying to sudo things i keep getting the gathostbyname() errors?
[14:30] <Pici> dynacrylic: yes.
[14:30] <gumpish> scroll lock doesn't seem to change anything
[14:30] <mraudsepp> no, it's not just the kernel. I get the rest from a chroot.
[14:31] <Pici> dynacrylic: I suggest booting from a live CD and correcting those two files/
[14:31] <jrib> gumpish: ctrl-shift-numlock
[14:31] <ikonia> mraudsepp: you need to change teh repo's then
[14:31] <gumpish> wow
[14:31] <dynacrylic> pici, ok. thank you for your help
[14:31] <gumpish> jrib: that did it... what's that all about??
[14:31] <jrib> gumpish: it's a feature
[14:31] <gumpish> lol
[14:31] <gumpish> of course
[14:31] <ikonia> mraudsepp: just be aware that the package manager will not play nicley tyring to install that lot into a chroot
[14:31] <BlackSunrise> hello.. can someone direct me to a link with winex?
[14:31]  * _nix_ thinks this channel is scrolling fast
[14:32] <ikonia> _nix_: then don't add additional lines to it with pointless /me commands
[14:32] <BlackSunrise> I need to know what file to install on ubuntu.. tar.gz/rpm/ or what?
[14:32] <mraudsepp> ikonia, I don't want to install anything into a chroot from ubuntu. It will be a different distribution. I just need to be able to chroot into it in the future
[14:32] <ikonia> mraudsepp: so you just want a kernel on its own ?
[14:32] <Tilllinux> ikonia: this http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Samba_ADAUTH sounds useful.
[14:32] <ikonia> mraudsepp: thatsit
[14:32] <Pici> BlackSunrise: .deb files, but please search in the package repositories before looking for external packages.
[14:32] <mraudsepp> again, I just want a 32bit userspace ubuntu to run a 64bit kernel
[14:32] <ikonia> Tilllinux: thank you, I'll book mark that for later
[14:33] <BlackSunrise> Pici: wtf is a suppository?
[14:33] <BlackSunrise> repository*
[14:33] <ikonia> mraudsepp: not going to happen
[14:33] <Pici> !software | BlackSunrise
[14:33] <ubotu> BlackSunrise: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[14:33] <Fuq> lol
[14:33] <cleaton> hi, how can i change the color that i can see after i have entered my username and password in gdm and pressed login? the orange color dosen't fit with the rest of my theme
[14:33] <BlackSunrise> ty
[14:33] <ikonia> BlackSunrise: don't use phrases like "wtf" we all know what it means and it's uncalled for
[14:34] <gumpish> jrib: I know I've never hit ctrl-shift-numlock before... and this "feature" has enabled itself repeatedly, with my previous solution being logout of X and log back in... is this a known bug? Or is there some action I can take to permanently disable it?
[14:35] <iNtERrUpT> brb
[14:35] <ikonia> !away > InspectorCluseau
[14:35] <ikonia> oops
[14:36] <chazco> Anyone know why youtube is very slow to donwload videos in Firefox, but fast if i manually download the flv
[14:36] <chazco> ?
[14:36] <kyle_> it's the same with mine chazco
[14:37] <Gearsmith> Why doesn't Firefox read that I have Adobe Flash installed?
[14:37] <chazco> Its really odd... only gets some videos... think it may be a Ubuntu issue
[14:37] <ikonia> !flashissue > Gearsmith
[14:37] <Gearsmith> YouTube videos with Gnash suck.
[14:37] <ikonia> Gearsmith: check the pm from ubotu
[14:37] <BlackSunrise> Gearsmith. mine did the same thing, i had to restart the computer...
[14:37] <anarchris> chazco: the flash player is responsible for buffering so it is to blame
[14:37] <chazco> According to this i'm getting video download at a massive 7KB/s
[14:37] <cleaton> Gearsmith, have you installed it recently?
[14:38] <anarchris> probably the youtube flash player wasn't tested properly with Gnash
[14:38] <Gearsmith> YEah.
[14:38] <chazco> wait... kyle_ - On AOL by any chance?
[14:38] <cleaton> well, i guess you got the informaton from ubot
[14:38] <Gearsmith> Yeah, thanks.
[14:39] <anarchris> chazco, maybe gnash sends a user agent string to youtube and youtube does the traffic shaping
[14:39] <chazco> anarchris - I'm using Adobe flash player
[14:39] <cleaton> hi, how can i change the color that i can see after i have entered my username and password in gdm and pressed login? the orange color dosen't fit with the rest of my theme'
[14:40] <anarchris> chazco, standalone? it sends a different user-agent than Firefox, youtube can identify it also
[14:40] <chazco> Nope, in Firefox
[14:40] <Gearsmith> THere's not a bug in installing. I can install it just fine. But Firefox doesn't seem to read that I have it installed.
[14:41] <kyle_> chazco yeah i'm on aol mate :o
[14:41] <cleaton> Gearsmith, i know, we can all install just fine, but the package dosen't work
[14:41] <chazco> Ah... that makes it interesting...
[14:41] <cleaton> !flash
[14:41] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[14:41] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[14:42] <anarchris> chazco: try to install the Live http headers plugin in firefox and see if the flash player goes through firefox or by itself
[14:42] <_nix_> can I update a ubuntu hoary installation directly to fiesty?
[14:42] <dasprid> hey i have some big problems with my 64 bit ubuntu installation. since 30 minutes the main menu of gnome doesnt display any icons anymore, and the userspecific system properties won't be saved anymore
[14:42] <DarthBuh> wooo, good so far
[14:42] <norbert79> Hello
[14:43] <ikonia> _nix_: no
[14:43] <dasprid> .xsession-errors gives me things like (gnome-mouse-properties:8735): GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_value_free: assertion `value != NULL' failed
[14:43] <_nix_> k... guess I'll reinstall everything :-(
[14:43] <ikonia> ok
[14:43] <norbert79> Guys, anyone had problems with "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)" using xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.1.1-0ubuntu9.1 ? I had to reinstall the older one, as I was unable to switch to console mode
[14:44] <anarchris> chazco: basicaly it can either be something in the player or something on YouTube that doesn't like your player
[14:44] <Gearsmith> What does everyone use now for playing YouTube videos? Gnash?
[14:44] <chazco> I suspect it may be something to do with AOL
[14:44] <chazco> Gearsmith - I use Adobe flash but am having a few issues
[14:44] <_nix_> Gearsmith: I use adobe flash
[14:44] <BlackSunrise> do you need a virus scanner on linux?
[14:44] <cleaton> Gearsmith, well, if you really need adobe flash, there is a .deb file you can install in that forumpost
[14:44] <ikonia> BlackSunrise: no, unless your running a mails server
[14:44] <_nix_> BlackSunrise: not really.. but a good idea if you're serving windows clients
[14:44] <kyle_> chazco it was the same on windows xp for me :(
[14:45] <maxagaz> When I change the luminosity using Fn keys, it goes back to full luminosity after a few seconds, how to change that ?
[14:45] <chazco> Ah... if it does it on Windows too then it could definatly be AOL...
[14:45] <anarchris> chazco: do you only have problems on youtube or with all flash videos?
[14:45] <javb> guys, i cant drag icons on my desktop, are kind of locked their position.. any ideas? ... another thing is that when i click on the desktop, the sticky note used to hide, now it doesnt...
[14:45] <chazco> Just youtube
[14:45] <chazco> But not _all_ youtube videos oddly
[14:46]  * Loki0480 »» WinAmp (Playing) «» Smashing Pumpkins - 1979 (181.fm - The Buzz (Your Alternative Station!)) «» 149:57/00:00 ««
[14:46] <Rootsnatch> Javb: do you have icon locking enabled on your desktop?
[14:46] <kyle_> yeah same here chazco it's been annoying me for months
[14:46] <cleaton> chazco, might be that aol has some videos in their proxy cache
[14:46] <_nix_> Loki0480: dude.. you can turn that off.. that winamp -> irc thing
[14:46] <BlackSunrise> well i have a icon on my desktop called expansion.. it is from installing my LOD cd.. and when i DO put in my lod cd, it adds another one to my desktop.. how do i get rid of that first one?
[14:46] <chazco> Perhaps its a peering issue then... guess its not Ubuntu then
[14:46] <Loki0480> could someone help me with a grub issue
[14:46] <Loki0480> ??
[14:46] <kyle_> maybe it'll be worth email aol chazco :o
[14:46] <_nix_> Loki0480: yeah.. just ask
[14:46] <chazco> cleaton - I dont have their proxy enabled though... odd
[14:46] <ikonia> Loki0480 don't use plugins for irc in here
[14:46] <kyle_> i might email asking them
[14:47] <ikonia> Loki0480: we don't need to see what music your playing
[14:47] <Pici> Loki0480: Please disable your now playing script in this channel.
[14:47] <chazco> Worth a try kyle_ :)
[14:47] <Loki0480> i'm having an issue with grub error 15
[14:47] <kyle_> it's pretty annoying :(
[14:47] <anarchris> chazco, try using a proxy or socks proxy, if it works better that way, its a problem in the connection
[14:47] <Loki0480> after stage 1.5
[14:47] <Gearsmith> I never understood 32-bit and 64-bit? What do those numbers mean? I have a AMD 64 x2 Processor, does that mean I am 64-bit?
[14:47] <javb> Rootsnatch, you mean the "Keep Aligned" option, when you 'right click' on the desktop? (answer: no)
[14:47] <cleaton> chazco, well they still have cache servers so they don't have to download a popular file from a server many times
[14:47] <ikonia> Gearsmith: that means your hardware would support a s64bit operating system
[14:47] <chazco> Gearsmith - Think along the lines of how many bits can be sent round your PC at once... the more the better (in theory)
[14:47] <ikonia> Gearsmith: doesn't mean your running on e
[14:47] <Loki0480> now i was reading where you could create a restore fdisk
[14:47] <anarchris> Gearsmith, its the size of the registers in the CPU - 64 bits - 8 bytes
[14:47] <_nix_> Loki0480: that's called a b0rked grub installation. you can fix it by booting the live cd again
[14:48] <Gearsmith> How do I find out?
[14:48] <Loki0480> ok i'll try the live
[14:48] <chazco> I think you can run lshw and look at the width entry for the CPU
[14:48] <ikonia> Gearsmith: the ouput you showed me earlier suggested your running a 32bit os
[14:48] <Loki0480> but can the restore fdisk be a cd
[14:48] <Gearsmith> The output I showed you earlier? :-o
[14:48] <ikonia> Gearsmith: to be certain show me uname -i
[14:48] <ikonia> Gearsmith: just watching what you where saying earlier
[14:49] <_nix_> Loki0480: you know what to do once in live cd environment? you can do just about anything in there..
[14:49] <_nix_> Loki0480: even repartitioning
[14:49] <Loki0480> repartitioning?
[14:49] <Gearsmith> IN a terminal?
[14:49] <kyle_> chazco before on windows youtube use to run fine with internet explorer:o
[14:49] <ikonia> Gearsmith: yes please
[14:49] <_nix_> Loki0480: me so sorry if I made it too techno..
[14:49] <BlackSunrise> well i have a icon on my desktop called expansion.. it is from installing my LOD cd.. and when i DO put in my lod cd, it adds another one to my desktop.. how do i get rid of that first one?
[14:50] <Gearsmith> "unknown"
[14:50] <chazco> hmm... kyle_ - did you have the AOL application installed? Or used their CD to set up the connection?
[14:50] <_nix_> Loki0480: what you'd like to do is "fix your grub installation"
[14:50] <_nix_> Loki0480: you were runninng ubuntu successfully befire that?
[14:50] <Loki0480> yeah
[14:50] <Loki0480> many times
[14:50] <Gearsmith> Linux ubuntuDao 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 08:02:57 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux  (that's uname -a)
[14:50] <kyle_> chazco i'm on a router chazco so i didn't install anything to do with aol :o
[14:51] <Loki0480> an this grub issue shows up aobut every 3 months
[14:51] <ikonia> Gearsmith: 32bit
[14:51] <Gearsmith> Thanks.
[14:51] <chazco> Same here, but enabling the proxy doesnt help and I cant think of anything else that was altered
[14:51] <_nix_> Loki0480: ok... this shouldn't be happening in a relatively static installation but it happens..
[14:51] <BlackSunrise> i thought a .deb file was for debian, not ubuntu.. in that guide you showed me it said .deb files was what i needed..
[14:52] <VSpike> It seems kind of strange the DOS emulator for linux is 2 MB in size.
[14:52] <cleaton> how to change the color that i can see between login and when gnome is loading? i can see the original ubuntu orange for some seconds, it dosen't fit with the theme i have now
[14:52] <erUSUL> !deb
[14:52] <ikonia> _nix_: it happens ?
[14:52] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.
[14:52] <dgjones> BlackSunrise, Ubuntu is based on debian
[14:52] <ikonia> _nix_: no it doesn't
[14:52] <Loki0480> what about the recovery floppy
[14:52] <_nix_> ikonia: ever played with things like dd?
[14:52] <ikonia> _nix_: yes, many times
[14:52] <ubuntu__> hello, i instaled QGRUBEditor, can anybody help me??
[14:52] <BlackSunrise> sor src.tgz is for what core?
[14:52] <Pici> !deb | BlackSunrise
[14:52] <_nix_> ikonia: ever set of= to your boot partition?
[14:52] <ubotu> BlackSunrise: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.
[14:52] <ikonia> Pingu: where did you get it from ?
[14:52] <_nix_> ikonia: ;-)
[14:53] <ikonia> _nix_: thats not static, thats someone making a mastic
[14:53] <Pingu> i donno, from the net :D
[14:53] <Pingu> i just donno how to use it :((
[14:53] <Pingu> please help!
[14:53] <cleaton> Pingu, it's a kde app?
[14:53] <ikonia> Pingu: Pingu I can't see it in the ubuntu repo
[14:54] <ikonia> Pingu: looks like it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:54] <_nix_> ikonia: once I was trying to dump an ext2 image to my boot partition.. oh well. most people won't do that now
[14:54] <peppo> anyone know if hard heron images are installable currently?
[14:54] <peppo> for ps3...
[14:54] <DarthBuh> okay
[14:54] <Pici> !hardy | peppo
[14:54] <ubotu> peppo: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[14:54] <DarthBuh> wish me luck!
[14:54] <DarthBuh> rebooting
[14:54] <ikonia> peppo: there is no PPC port
[14:54] <cleaton> Pingu, what do you want to edit in grub?
[14:54] <BlackSunrise> I am trying to download wineX for gaming.. but the only file i can find is..wgi-1.13-src.tgz
[14:54] <Pingu> i have a problem with the GRUB, error 15.. and i would like to do it with this program
[14:55] <peppo> ikonia, huh: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/daily-live/current/hardy-desktop-powerpc+ps3.iso
[14:55] <Gearsmith> Sweet.
[14:55] <Gearsmith> Adobe works on YouTube now.
[14:55] <_nix_> doesn't error 15 in grub mean it couldn't find the boot partition?? just to be sure..
[14:55] <ikonia> peppo: thats a community eddition
[14:55] <Gearsmith> THanks!
[14:55] <ikonia> peppo: sorry, I should have been clear
[14:55] <cleaton> Pingu, ok i guess you have to find a QGRUBEditor channel for that.
[14:55] <Gearsmith> I have Wine and Cedega and neither of them ever let me play the games I wanna play.
[14:55] <Pingu> hm
[14:56] <Pingu> where?
[14:56] <ikonia> Pingu: google for one
[14:56] <BlackSunrise> gearsmith, that's because wine X is for gaming..
[14:56] <BlackSunrise> Wine isn't for gaming.. but i can still play in crap graphix
[14:56] <Gearsmith> Uh, what?
[14:56] <Gearsmith> ...
[14:57] <BlackSunrise> but i heard that wine X was real good but i can't find it from sourceforge for ubuntu.
[14:57] <ikonia> BlackSunrise: probably not packaged for ubuntu
[14:57] <darthbuh> wohooo!
[14:57] <darthbuh> it worked!
[14:58] <ikonia> darthbuh: we don't need a commentory
[14:58] <darthbuh> rofl
[14:58] <Gearsmith> There's a difference between Wine and WIneX?
[14:58] <darthbuh> thanks ikonia
[14:58] <ikonia> !lol | darthbuh
[14:58] <ubotu> darthbuh: Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[14:58] <darthbuh> the problem ikonia was dmraid refresh rate
[14:58] <darthbuh> you have to do it like 4x
[14:59] <ghosty> http://www.ihateyoujulia.com/?id=26582066b6e7516d1adaca7febe32ec7
[14:59] <Gearsmith> Does WineX work any better than Cedega?
[14:59] <ikonia> Gearsmith: this is ubuntu support only
[14:59] <VSpike> Heh.. dosemu runs DOS programs better than Windows does :)
[14:59] <darthbuh> Well, to work
[14:59] <Gearsmith> :(
[14:59] <darthbuh> Thank all of you so much for your help
[15:00] <cleaton> anyone know how i can change or remove the color between gdm and gnome? my screen gets orange for 1-2 sec then i can see gnome and my backgound
[15:00] <ikonia> cleaton: it's in the theme options
[15:00] <ikonia> cleaton: I think.....
[15:01] <cleaton> ikonia, i thought so too, but it's not :/
[15:01] <ikonia> cleaton: or default background colour in set a wall paper options
[15:01] <ikonia> cleaton: go to change your wall paper and look at the default background colour
[15:01] <cleaton> i've changed everycolor i can find to black
[15:01] <cleaton> but it's still there
[15:01] <Slart> cleaton: I kind of think that the color you're seeing is hardcoded somewhere.. ubuntu brown default or whatever..
[15:01] <kyle_> am i allowed to post links here?
[15:02] <ikonia> Slart it's not hardcoded
[15:02] <ikonia> kyle_: is it an ubuntu support related link ?
[15:02] <kyle_> ahh maybe not :(
[15:02] <Pingu> can it be a problem that windows is active?
[15:02] <ikonia> Pingu: find somewhere that supports your grub application
[15:02] <Slart> ikonia: it isn't? I've talked to several people unable to change it.. no amount of theming, backgrounds etc would change it.. but I guess we can call it.. hard-to-configure then =)
[15:03] <ethercrow> BlackSunrise: wineX is history, it's not active now. Current projects are wine and cedega and how it was said above, neither of them is perfect
[15:03] <ikonia> Slart changed it many times
[15:03] <ikonia> Slart it's really obvious once you see it
[15:03] <Pingu> or what should i do with 'Error 15' ?
[15:03] <ikonia> I think it's in the desktop wall paper options
[15:03] <kyle_> chazco you still here?
[15:04] <Pingu> i can install ubuntu, i just have problems with GRUB, can i switch it to another Booting program?
[15:04] <ikonia> Pingu: yes, lilo is another option
[15:04]  * Slart brings out his laptop to check..
[15:04] <ikonia> Slart: if I was on ubuntu now, I'd find it
[15:04] <cleaton> Pingu, error 15 is what you get when something is messed up with grubs settings for partitions
[15:04] <cleaton> did you install windows or something after ubuntu?
[15:04] <Slart> ikonia: I'll give it a try.. see what I can find  out
[15:05] <ikonia> cleaton: he's using a 3rd part app to mess up his grub config
[15:05] <cleaton> oh :/
[15:05] <Pingu> cleaton and if i'll use lilo, will i have the same problem?
[15:05] <white_eagle> hello, tell me  a widget app for ubuntu, except screenlets
[15:05] <Pingu> or not sure?
[15:05] <BlackSunrise> how do i find out what dist of ubuntu i have?
[15:05] <dgjones> !version | BlackSunrise
[15:05] <ikonia> BlackSunrise: lsb_release -i
[15:05] <ubotu> BlackSunrise: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[15:05] <cleaton> Pingu, hm, i guess not, actually reinstalling grub should work too
[15:06] <Pingu> but i donno how to reinstall it :(
[15:06] <cleaton> Pingu, what did you do to get that error in the first place?
[15:06] <Slart> ikonia: you're thinking of the "solid color" option in the wallpaper section?
[15:06] <ikonia> Slart: not sure
[15:06] <MindSpark> BlackSunrise, cat /etc/lsb-release
[15:06] <ikonia> Slart: try changing it
[15:06] <Pingu> i have XP, and ubuntu 7.10
[15:06] <cleaton> it's not the solid color
[15:06] <cleaton> and it's not the gdm solid color background
[15:06] <Pingu> i just istalled ubuntu, and tried to reboot and it showed that error
[15:06] <ikonia> cleaton: no, it's nothing to do with gdm
[15:06] <white_eagle> hello, tell me  a app for adding widgets for ubuntu, except screenlets
[15:07] <ikonia> !repeat | white_eagle
[15:07] <ubotu> white_eagle: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[15:07] <ikonia> white_eagle: you've been here enough, you know the guidelines
[15:07] <cleaton> ikonia, you installed ubuntu after XP?
[15:07] <OsamaK> cleaton: I did
[15:07] <ikonia> cleaton: I have done sometimes
[15:07] <OsamaK> if I can help :)
[15:07] <BlackSunrise> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 7.10"
[15:08] <Pingu> cleaton how can i reinstall grub?
[15:08] <ikonia> BlackSunrise: so it's 7.10 gutsy
[15:08] <ikonia> !grub | Pingu
[15:08] <ubotu> Pingu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:08] <cleaton> sorry i meant Pingu *
[15:08] <Pingu> but first i had xp, then ubuntu
[15:08] <Slart> ikonia: ok.. changed the background color in gnome to "nasty purple".. gdm login theme is blue, got a elephant wallpaper that's dark brownish.. and still I get a flash (<1sec) or the default ubuntu brown-orange
[15:09] <Pingu> so it couldnt lost.. :o
[15:09] <ikonia> Slart i'll check it when I go home
[15:09] <OsamaK> !away | OsamaK
[15:10] <OsamaK> Is ubuntu's cd cover under GPL?
[15:10] <OsamaK> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b5/Ubuntu_5.04_alle_3_Architekturen.jpg
[15:10] <edeca> How do I upgrade a server with only command-line access and no internet connection from feisty to gutsy without reinstalling?  I have tried the cdrom upgrade, which fails with a Python TypeError.  I have also tried do-release-upgrade (I have an entire ubuntu mirror on the network) which reports there is no new upgrade
[15:11] <mattz_> ubotu decorator?
[15:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about decorator? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:11] <ikonia> mattz_ it's a bot
[15:11] <mattz_> ye i know :D
[15:11] <ikonia> mattz_: so don't mess with it unless you are trying to get information from it
[15:11] <mattz_> ikonia thats what i am tryin ...
[15:11] <fairyEneried> hi!
[15:11] <ikonia> mattz_: what do you wantt o know
[15:11] <ikonia> to
[15:12] <mattz_> i keep losing window decorations when i start compiz-fusion
[15:12] <OsamaK> hello faintofhearts
[15:12] <mattz_> i removed emerald and tried  "gtk-window-decorator --replace" # to no avail
[15:12] <mcquaid> join #compiz-fusion
[15:12] <ikonia> mattz_: join #compiz-fusion
[15:12] <OsamaK> I meant fairyEneried :)
[15:12] <mattz_> kk cheers
[15:12] <fairyEneried> hahaha XDDDD
[15:12] <kallepersson> Hi, I've got a tricky question. Is there any way got get vnc to logout of gnome and log in into KDE without losing the VNC connection?
[15:12] <kallepersson> I've got SSH access as well so I can do stuff.
[15:12] <fairyEneried> i have a tricky question
[15:12] <bigzk> hi I have a problem
[15:12] <OsamaK> bigzk: say..
[15:13] <OsamaK> fairyEneried: say too..
[15:13] <fairyEneried> how can i say ubuntu, gnome, kde, or whatever designed such stupid feature of windows stealing the focus?
[15:13] <ikonia> fairyEneried: you can drop the attitude
[15:13] <unop> lol
[15:13] <ikonia> fairyEneried: and ask politly
[15:13] <Polysics> halp! the 7.04-7.10 upgrade borked my ATI driver :-/
[15:13] <kritzstapf> how to tell nautilus to refresh thumbnails?
[15:13] <fairyEneried> sorry, i was trying to write this simple sentence, and ubuntu interrumpted me three trimes befores i could complete it!
[15:14] <ikonia> fairyEneried: thats no reason to behave like that
[15:14] <ikonia> fairyEneried: try again
[15:14] <CaptainMorgan> !webcam
[15:14] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[15:14] <fairyEneried> ok
[15:14] <xomp> Ok, I found out that I have vpnc & PPP generic installed. Is there anything else I may need to get my Cisco VPN working? Please help, I've been patiently waiting for 2 hours :(
[15:14] <W8TAH> how does one ask ubot to limit his !info queries to a specific version (in this case 6.06lts server)
[15:14] <ikonia> W8TAH: I don't think you can
[15:14] <W8TAH> ugh
[15:14] <W8TAH> ok
[15:14] <ikonia> W8TAH: the factoids are hard coded
[15:15] <fairyEneried> i was always working on my computer, but everytime you open a new application or any windows send you a message it steal the focus of your current window to the new window
[15:15] <ikonia> fairyEneried: I think that's default baehaviour for any window manager
[15:15] <ikonia> fairyEneried: I'm not sure there is an option to change that
[15:15] <fairyEneried> i hate that feature, cause you are typing, and then you send ciommands to new window, and sometimes that occurs so fast and you don't know what you said to new window
[15:15] <Pingu> is it possible to boot from my pendrive?
[15:15] <nickrud> !info mysql-server-5.0 dapper | W8TAH
[15:15] <Juhaz> it's certainly not in last few gnome releases. in fact, it should not even be possible to get it cause like that any more
[15:15] <boubbin> my ftsab is messed up, how to make ubuntu to remake it ?
[15:15] <wawawewa> yes, you have to change your window behavior
[15:16] <ubotu> w8tah: mysql-server-5.0: mysql database server binaries. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.22-0ubuntu6.06.6 (dapper), package size 20849 kB, installed size 47228 kB
[15:16] <unop> Pingu, if your PC supports it, yes
[15:16] <ikonia> nickrud thats stunning !
[15:16] <Pingu> ok thx, then i try it..
[15:16] <Pingu> bye
[15:16] <nickrud> ikonia: someone told me !info is driven by apt-file
[15:16] <ikonia> nickrud: ahhh !info rather than !factoid
[15:17] <bullgard4> [Samba, http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/28798/] On the second computer Nautilus lists in smb://md97600/freigegebenMD the file 'config'. If Nautilus tries to copy this file to another directory on the target computer an error occurs: "Error when copying. »smb://md976... MD/config« could not be moves, because you do not have the requires access rights to read the object." --
[15:17] <bullgard4> "root@Amilo7600:~# gnomevfs-ls smb://MD97600/freigegebenMD; Couldn'tget main dbus connection: Did not receive a reply, Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, ... Error opening: Internal Error." The same error occurred in the past now and then. What can I do?
[15:17] <fairyEneried> for example, when i was trying to write my question, synaptic sent me three windows and of course i sent some commands to synaptic... now, i don't know what is synaptic doing, if it is sinatlling or removing or something else, because it steald the focus of this chat
[15:17] <winkerbean> Hi.  While running Update Manager to upgrade from Fawn to Gibbon, I received these error codes:
[15:17] <winkerbean> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[15:17] <winkerbean> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[15:17] <winkerbean> The biz2 man page says this means 'corrupt file'.  Any ideas on how to work around this problem?
[15:18] <fairyEneried> any solution? a way to say window manager to NOT steal the focus and open new windows behind current window instead??
[15:18] <OsamaK> Is ubuntu's cd cover under GPL?
[15:18] <ikonia> fairyEneried: I don't think you can, but someone mentioned you could earlier
[15:18] <wawawewa> fairEneried:i think that in systema you have to go settings and after that to windows
[15:18] <wawawewa> or something like that
[15:19] <|dBarton|> I've got the sh script starting up with my system (it has a loop that keeps it running all the time), how do I stop the execution of it using top or any other utility?
[15:19] <Qaldune> how do i run Simutrans on Ubuntu Gutsy?
[15:19] <Qaldune> it says it couldn't found libvorbisfile.so.3
[15:19] <Qaldune> but libvorbisfile is installed
[15:20] <wawawewa> |dBarton| you have to do killall bash, when I used to do scripts that was the only way to stop it
[15:21] <fairyEneried> ikonia: we have the same problem in windows, and we found a very rude way to solve it, but it works, now i want to do that to in gnome, cause that "nice feature" is breaking my nerves
[15:21] <ikonia> fairyEneried: I personally don't believe you can set that in gnome/kde
[15:21] <nottha_k_> how do I ensure that all files created in a folder are owned by a specific group with the permissions 770?
[15:21] <nottha_k_> no matter what random user creates the file
[15:21] <Chamunks> Is there a program that can grab batches of images of a series of documents and put them into a pdf type document?
[15:21] <W8TAH> nickrud, thanks
[15:21] <ikonia> nottha_k_: umask and setuid/setgid
[15:21] <wawawewa> i'm pretty sure that in kde it's possible to change that option
[15:21] <BlackSunrise> How do i get my 3d acceleration thingy to work right? My graphix are not working.. ----- direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[15:22] <ikonia> Chamunks: shell script
[15:22] <wawawewa> i'm not sure about gnome though
[15:22] <ikonia> wawawewa: there you go, help the man
[15:22] <nickrud> nottha_k_: for the perm,s you have to have the user's umask as 002
[15:22] <nottha_k_> ikonia: those random users might have their own umask settings. can i set a custom umask for a directory?
[15:22] <Chamunks> ikonia, alas im not versed in coding :S
[15:22] <ikonia> nottha_k_: umask yes, and setuid and gid
[15:22] <Viele-baeren> hi
[15:23] <whabo> guys if i have an AMD 64 x 2 .. shoul i install the 64 bit version .... ?????????????? what is better? i have 4 GIGs of RAM
[15:23] <VSpike> fairyEneried: do you have effects enabled?
[15:23] <Chamunks> ikonia, i just have a huge bulky library i would love to convert to digital media, some books in which are worth more untouched.
[15:23] <ikonia> whabo amd64 would be better
[15:23] <Qaldune> whabo 64-bit version if you're gonna install gutsy
[15:23] <nottha_k_> ikonia: any idea how :)? i've been googling this for a while without luck. how to set a user's umask only for a directory.
[15:24] <whabo> thx for the info .. i always thought the 64 bit was slower than the 32 .... but i came to realize its the opposite
[15:24] <fairyEneried> VSpike: no effects at all
[15:25] <|dBarton|> How do I kill the shell script?
[15:25] <RadiantFire> does anyone know why dispatching Cups print jobs over wireless would cause my wireless to disconnect?
[15:25] <ikonia> nottha_k_: http://oldfield.wattle.id.au/luv/permissions.html
[15:25] <ali1234> Chamunks: sounds like you need an OCR tool?
[15:25] <ikonia> nottha_k_: have a read
[15:25] <BlackSunrise> How do i get my 3d acceleration thingy to work right? My graphix are not working.. ----- direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[15:25] <Qaldune> whabo: 64 bit version uses the new 64 bit instructions and can handle way more memory, why would it be slower?
[15:25] <fairyEneried> no compiz, no nothing, the stealing focus feature was common in all window systems from windows 98 and earlier, in ubuntu, any version of ubuntu has this problem
[15:25] <Chamunks> ali1234, Im actually skimming the wiki for an ocr tool right now.   Yes I believe so.
[15:26] <wawawewa> bye guys
[15:26] <miekko> what's the name of the nvidia driver one should use in the xorg.conf file in ubuntu?
[15:26] <whabo> qaldune .. always thout if i ran a 32 bit on a 64 bit processor .. it would be faster .. just a naive thought
[15:26] <nickrud> nottha_k_: I think you can do that with access control lists, but I'm real weak on them
[15:26] <benzss> is there a piece of software whcih will allow me to choose a 'recording device' (say, 'USB Audio Codec') and play it back normally?
[15:26] <Chamunks> ali1234, i have a mental design of a little rig ill build to make this go smoothly and quickly but the software is where im lacking.
[15:26] <Juhaz> most apps _do not_ steal focus, synaptic is exception, not the rule.
[15:27] <Qaldune> whabo: 32 bit on 64 bit cpu would be as faster as 32bit on equivalent 32bit cpu
[15:27] <ballongen> Envy rocks
[15:27] <Slart> !envy
[15:27] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[15:27] <ikonia> ballongen: envy is not supported
[15:27] <Qaldune> whabo: well actually it was not the case for itanium iirc
[15:27] <ballongen> however, anyone got a good dualscreen ati howto?
[15:27] <ikonia> ballongen: be careful what you recommend to people
[15:27] <ali1234> Chamunks: mechanized scanner?
[15:27] <edeca> Is there any way to upgrade an ubuntu server from feisty to gutsy if it isn't internet connected? All of the scripts seem to assume there is an internet connection.  I have a package repository with all the gutsy packages.
[15:27] <whabo> ohh wow .. thx for the info
[15:28] <ikonia> edeca: using the cd only
[15:28] <Chamunks> ali1234, yeah i think ill leave the page turning up to me but for the most part yeah.
[15:28] <edeca> ikonia: How though?  The script is broken anyway (I've fixed one function) and it bombs after scanning the repositories saying that it cannot get all information for upgrade
[15:28] <Slart> edeca: can't you get the gutsy dvd and add it as a cd repository?
[15:28] <Chamunks> ali1234, i plan on using my little sony point n shoot 7.2 megapixel cam for the capturing.
[15:28] <Qaldune> does anybody play simutrans on ubuntu??
[15:28] <ballongen> okay, yeah,. but the ati restricted driver does not work at the moment for me or my friends. fresh install of 7.10 with full update dont work. slow slow computer and no refreshrate. please read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=654047
[15:29] <ikonia> edeca try changing your sources.list to include the cdrom line, and removing any 3rd party repos then do an upgrade using update manager
[15:29] <whabo> qaldune then how come most people with 64 bit processors .... are stil using 32 bit .. including the preinstalled vista that comes with it?
[15:29]  * OsamaK goes
[15:29] <ikonia> !away > OSUKid7
[15:29] <BlackSunrise> i guess i will never get my graphix accelerator working properly..
[15:29] <fairyEneried> this feature is killing me!!! i can't ask you about it, cause every time i'm trying to do that synaptic ins asking me something new, fortunately i wasn't typing, if not i can say synaptic to do something really scary :(
[15:29] <ikonia> oops
[15:29] <ikonia> !away > OsamaK
[15:29] <OsamaK> !away | OsamaK
[15:29] <OsamaK> :D
[15:29] <ali1234> Chamunks: at worst you could just leave it as jpegs if you have the disk space
[15:29] <Chamunks> ali1234, i know boo on the sony but it was a steal at the price.
[15:29] <nottha_k_> nickrud: that looks promising. thanks
[15:29] <Qaldune> whabo because some software lacks support for 64 bit, such as flash plugin
[15:29] <edeca> Slart: I tried and it gives all the updates, but is that an acceptable method of upgrade?
[15:29] <OsamaK> ikonia: OK, thanks ;)
[15:29] <ikonia> fairyEneried: I don't think you can do anything about that
[15:29] <nickrud> edeca: if your sources.list point at your local repo, just change them to the next release (dapper->edgy) and dist-upgrade
[15:29] <Slart> whabo: for vista.. the 64-bit version still has lots of problems.. for linux.. there are some things that are tricky.. flash.. w32codecs and such .. unless they've fixed it recently
[15:29] <edeca> nickrud: Ah, it is that easy then, cheers!
[15:29] <nottha_k_> can i remount the root file system on a live system to turn acls on?
[15:29] <Qaldune> whabo anyway, you can use flash plugin on gutsy 64-bit thanks to a plugin wrapper
[15:30] <Slart> edeca: afaik, yes
[15:30] <WorkingOnWise> i was installing some packages and the battery dies. How do I get synaptic to finish what it was doing?
[15:30] <edeca> nottha_k_: mount -o remount,blah /mnt/foo
[15:30] <ballongen> why is it that clean isntall + update + ati restricted driver work on some computers, and some not?
[15:30] <Chamunks> ali1234, at that rate im gonna need a new hdd for my library lol :S sigh...
[15:30] <edeca> Slart: Winner, cheers.
[15:30] <nickrud> edeca: remember, only one release at a time.
[15:30] <Qaldune> whabo: you could actually use it in previous version, but it wasn't that easy
[15:30] <edeca> nickrud: iThat's cool
[15:30] <ali1234> Chamunks: is it just text, or are there illustrations too?
[15:30] <whabo> ohhh okay :) ....... thank you guys
[15:30] <XceII> Is it possible to make Amarok work properly in Ubuntu with out problems?
[15:30] <nottha_k_> edeca: even if I replace /mnt/foo with /? i want ot know if thats safe, not how to do it :)
[15:30] <fairyEneried> ok, then i surrender... i'll place it as a bug on gnome and kde... :(
[15:30] <fairyEneried> thanks guys
[15:30] <edeca> nottha_k_: Should be.
[15:30] <fairyEneried> ;)
[15:30] <Chamunks> Well a good number of them are recipe books and such.
[15:30] <Slart> XceII: well.. it is still amarok.. but yes.. it works under ubuntu..
[15:31] <VSpike> XceII: I don't have any particular problems with it, so I'd say yes
[15:31] <nickrud> ballongen: mostly it's the ati driver that will do that and ubuntu has no control over that blob
[15:31] <XceII> K thanks.
[15:31] <XceII> I'll try it.
[15:31] <ballongen> nickrud: ok, but it worked before?
[15:31] <BlackSunrise> How do i get my graphix accelerator working properly?
[15:31] <VSpike> XceII: what problems were you referring to specifically, or was it a general question?
[15:31] <Chamunks> ali1234, a good chunk of them are recipe books but i also have some encyclopedia britanica and some really old shakespear books.
[15:31] <ballongen> ati sucks
[15:31] <nickrud> ballongen: same hardware each time?
[15:31] <ali1234> Chamunks: seems like it will be a lot of work if you want to preserve the page layout and everything... you will probably have to do most of that by hand
[15:31] <ballongen> nickrud: almost, i ahve a new quadcore cpu
[15:32] <Slart> ballongen: those kind of statements
[15:32] <XceII> I use both kubuntu and ubuntu, Rumor had it that Amarok has issues in ubuntu.
[15:32] <ballongen> slart: sorry.
[15:32] <Slart> ballongen: those kind of statements don't really add to the discussion...
[15:32] <VSpike> XceII: you get some kde-isms like clicking links in the context browser opens konqueror.  It's probably possible to correct that, but it has never bugged me enough to try
[15:32] <nickrud> ballongen: not sure then. I'm confused easily, though
[15:32] <Chamunks> ali1234, well would it be simple-ish to just dump the images into a pdf creator? one per page?
[15:32] <XceII> Nice, I'll try it now, Here goes nothing.
[15:33] <meez> anyone know what the actual appname for the 'Removable Drives and Media' window in preferences is? gnome-?
[15:33] <ballongen> I love ubuntu + compiz, and im recommending it to everyone i know, but its very sadly that ati support isnt good enough
[15:33]  * Slart hands ballongen a cookie.. much better ;)
[15:33] <ali1234> Chamunks: yeah it should be quite easy but you will have to use a bit of shell scripting to do it as suggested before
[15:33] <nickrud> rflol Slart
[15:33] <ballongen> Slart: do you know a channel that specializes in ATI + dualscreen and so on?
[15:33] <NiAk> hi
[15:33] <ballongen> the ubuntuchannel does not seem to the the right choice for me.
[15:34] <XceII> I'm tempted to try kde4.0..I just am scared deu to that I have alot of time invested in the total build to have to start over.
[15:34] <ali1234> Chamunks: you might not be too happy with the result though, it will probably just give you a pdf containing each image... no text search or index or anything like that
[15:34] <Slart> ballongen: unfortunately not.. lots of questions about it though
[15:34] <VSpike> ballongen: I thnk there is a #ati
[15:34] <ballongen> gotta try it out, thanks VSpike
[15:34] <Chamunks> ali1234, i think some readers have an ocr type engine built into them.
[15:35] <VSpike> ballongen: if it's anything like #nvidia, you might have quite a long wait :/
[15:35] <WorkingOnWise> i was installing some packages and the battery dies. How do I get synaptic to finish what it was doing?
[15:35] <puargs> Hi! I have a question: is there a way to change the password to my gnome vnc session via console? I can remote in via console to my user, but I forgot my password for the vnc
[15:35] <ballongen> hard choice, read very fast at #ubuntu, or wait long on #ati. hmm
[15:35] <Slart> WorkingOnWise: have you tried just restarting it? I think it continues
[15:36] <WorkingOnWise> Slart: I have. it says there are broken packages.
[15:36] <jduggan> hey all, my resolv.conf tells me not to edit directly - it is a static network config - is it safe to edit directly, or is there somewhere better to set dns servers?
[15:36] <meez> I'm trying to stop rhythmbox from starting everytime I plug my iPod in, and possibly replace it with a shell script, anyone know where I could disable it?
[15:36] <erUSUL> meez: System>Admin>Removable media
[15:36] <Slart> puargs: I'm almost certain there is.. I know you can set a password... have you looked at the vnc documentation?
[15:36] <Juhaz> puargs, in theory, but it's much easier to disable temporarily, and set it when you get in.
[15:37] <Slart> WorkingOnWise: have you tried running "sudo apt-get install" from a terminal?
[15:37] <meez> erUSUL: I'm on xfce, but... I can't find it in gnome-control-center either :\
[15:37] <meez> what's the appname for it?
[15:37] <nickrud> jduggan: you can install resolvconf , and add the line  dns-nameservers xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx to your static config
[15:37] <WorkingOnWise> Slart: I did.
[15:37] <benzss> does anyone know a program that will play an input 'recording device'?
[15:37] <boguz> my XORG.CONF is completly empty and my synaptics (touchpad) is not working...    ai, ai, ai...
[15:37] <puargs> Slart: it's the default gnome "enable remote desktop" option
[15:38] <Slart> WorkingOnWise: have you tried running "sudo apt-get install -f" from a terminal?
[15:38] <WorkingOnWise> Slart: yup. :)
[15:38] <Slart> puargs: hang on.. I'll see if I can find anything
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> boguz: Were you sre to use a cap X when you typed the path to xorg
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> sure
[15:38] <Drk_Guy> Hi guys!
[15:38] <ali1234> Chamunks: i dont really see anything in the repos that will make this task easy...
[15:38] <Drk_Guy> I have a question
[15:38] <Leo1989> Drk_Guy: ;)
[15:38] <linduxed> how do i uninstall something that i installed through wine in CLI? (installed as root because it wouldnt let me otherwise, this also means it doesnt show up under applications - wine - programs
[15:38] <boguz> like in X11?
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> yep
[15:38] <boguz> i think so...
[15:38] <Slart> WorkingOnWise: hmm.. I don't know of any more letters to add to that =).. what are the error-messages from apt?
[15:38] <puargs> Slart: thanks!
[15:38] <erUSUL> meez: gnome-volume-properties
[15:38] <Drk_Guy> How can i force apt-get to install packages from my local repos?
[15:38] <ballongen> -f
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> boguz: common problem when people pull up empty doc is x11/xorg.conf
[15:39] <Chamunks> ali1234, I figured it wouldnt be the easiest of tasks I was basically looking to find a way to free up some space if at all possible.
[15:39] <Drk_Guy> How can i force apt-get to install packages from my local repos?
[15:39] <boguz> i just tried it again with X and it is the same. i think i was doing it already right
[15:39] <boguz> :S
[15:39] <ali1234> Chamunks: by converting the individual images to pdfs? i wouldnt bank on that making them any smaller...
[15:39] <jduggan> nickrud: can you specify two servers on the same line?
[15:39] <Drk_Guy> How can i force apt-get to install packages from my local repos?
[15:39] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: just add your repo to the sources.list
[15:39] <boguz> can i reintall the synaptics touchpad?
[15:39] <ikonia> !repeat | Drk_Guy
[15:40] <Chamunks> ali1234, i see plenty of winedoze based apps but well have to see.
[15:40] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: IT IS on local.list
[15:40] <ubotu> Drk_Guy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[15:40] <Drk_Guy> But it keeps downloading it
[15:40] <Chamunks> ali1234, nah by converting hard copy to digital copy :P
[15:40] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: no - sources.list
[15:40] <ali1234> Chamunks: ah :)
[15:40] <Drk_Guy> sources.list?
[15:40] <Drk_Guy> kk
[15:40] <Leo1989> Guys, is there Dev-C++ or wxDev-C++ for Ubuntu? Where can download it? Unfortunally Google returned nothing.
[15:40] <Drk_Guy> gonna try that
[15:40] <ali1234> Chamunks: i have the opposite problem :)
[15:40] <ikonia> Leo1989: what do you want to do ?
[15:40] <jaggy> Leo1989 for coding c++ i recommend geany
[15:40] <Chamunks> ali1234, you want to convert pdfs to hardcopy??
[15:41] <WorkingOnWise> Slart: from apt-get none at all. synaptic says I have to fix broken packages. when I do, it says unable to fix. I have held broken packages. It was downloading when it died, not instaling...
[15:41] <rgnr> sound in dosemu doesn't work!
[15:41] <Leo1989> ikonia: I'm gonna to write C++ programs in my favorite IDE. But I can't find Linux version
[15:41] <sparkybean> dosnt gcc do c++?
[15:41] <ali1234> Chamunks: yeah, and imposition is another thing that can only be done by a cryptic command line tool unless you buy a program to do it
[15:41] <rgnr> help
[15:41] <Qaldune> if i've got 64-bit version, how do  i install the 32-bit version of a package?
[15:41] <ikonia> sparkybean: thats a compiler only
[15:41] <lemontea> I have problem with my start up/ it say unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'. Without the gnome settings manager running, some preference may not take effect. This is indicate a problem with bonobom or a non-gnome(e.g. kde) settings manager may already be active and conficting with gnome settings manager.
[15:41] <Juhaz> puargs, the password is stored in gconf, /desktop/gnome/remote_access/vnc_password, it's base64-encoded so you will have to do that to your new password too, can't set it in plaintext format.
[15:41] <sparkybean> ah
[15:41] <rgnr> anyone uses dosemu?
[15:42] <puargs> Juhaz: woo! thank you!! :D
[15:42] <VSpike> rgnr: funnily enough i just tried it out for the first time today
[15:42] <jaggy> Leo1989: geany is an option , but you need gcc or g++ for compiling it
[15:42] <Drk_Guy> ikonia:
[15:42] <Chamunks> ali1234, there was a time where i resorted to just resorting all the pages in a pdf so they would print 2 pages per side of the paper and all i did after that was flipped the paper once done on the one side and the other pdf (other half of the document) on the other side
[15:42] <Leo1989> Imo Dev-C++ is the best. At least for me
[15:43] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: Doesnt work
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Drk_Guy: The problem you are having sounds like one that a person who installed things from outside the official repos or used a script (Automatix or envy) that did.  Now versions and dependencies are out of sync.
[15:43] <ikonia> Drk_Guy: have you built a proper repo ?
[15:43] <Drk_Guy> ikonia: it keeps on downloading stuff
[15:43] <Chamunks> ali1234, than folded and binded it which was a task i am never looking forward to repeating.
[15:43] <WorkingOnWise> Slart: wierd. I just hit "mark all upgrades, then apply, and now its working.....
[15:43] <Chamunks> ali1234, i think ill just skip all that next time and just buy one of those kindle things.
[15:43] <Drk_Guy> I just downloaded those files from another pc like one week ago
[15:43] <edeca> nickrud: Thanks, worked.  Let's see if it reboots.
[15:43] <rgnr> VSpike: did you make sound work?
[15:43] <Drk_Guy> And i dont wait to redownload those debs
[15:44] <Drk_Guy> So i just set-up my own personal repo with that
[15:44] <VSpike> rgnr: ah.  Sorry, didn't even try
[15:44] <ali1234> Chamunks: yes "resorting" is called "imposition" :)
[15:44] <Drk_Guy> In my home folder
[15:44] <Drk_Guy> But it keeps downloading from official repos
[15:44] <boguz> i have another question: i installed my ubuntu 7.10 from the alternateCD. and now i can not make "su". it says "authentication failure". but the "sudo" will work. why is it i cannot make "su". it should be the same password...  ?
[15:44] <Drk_Guy> How can i force it to download from local repos?
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Drk_Guy: different user name on the files you copied perhaps ...  check the permissions on one of the files you copied
[15:44] <sparkybean> boduz: do sudo passwd root
[15:45] <sparkybean> (boguz even)
[15:45] <Chamunks> ali1234, :P alas i have done no research in that department :P
[15:45] <rgnr> VSpike: dammit there's no support channel or forum even ((
[15:45] <randomwalker> boguz: sudo bash will give you a root shell
[15:45] <XceII> VSpike:  With amarok: do the same libs work as the ones in kubuntu?
[15:45] <ali1234> Chamunks: i sometimes will print PDF manuals for people when they lost them or whatever :)
[15:45] <Chamunks> ali1234, but good to know ill bank that info for sure.
[15:45] <boguz> hey, it worked the "sudo passwd root". THANKX!
[15:45] <boguz> :)
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Drk_Guy: Sorry, just waking up.. have not had my coffee.. Will shut up for now
[15:45] <sparkybean> boguz: np :D
[15:45] <Chamunks> well thats allways handy
[15:45] <Drk_Guy> kk Jack_Sparrow
[15:45] <Chamunks> ali1234, well thats allways handy.
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !rootsupport
[15:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rootsupport - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:46] <jrib> boguz: that's completely unnecessary and not recommended
[15:46] <rgnr> PPL ANYONE USES DOSEMU?
[15:46] <jrib> !caps | rgnr
[15:46] <ubotu> rgnr: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> jrib: I forgot he trigger for that.
[15:46] <mannytu> !sudo
[15:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[15:46] <VSpike> XceII: yeah, i think so
[15:46] <XceII> k
[15:46] <Chamunks> ali1234, whats a software title would you need for the impositioning process?
[15:47] <sparkybean> caps-lock: cruise control for spammers
[15:47] <dgjones> Drk_Guy, have you looked into apt-mirror? it might be overkill for for what you're looking at, but i suppose its a possibility http://popey.com/Creating_an_Ubuntu_repository_mirror_with_apt-mirror
[15:47] <Y0da^> anyone know if there's a patch or something for vmware workstatino 6 on feisty?
[15:48] <Y0da^> it keeps telling me mto re-run the vmware-config.pl, but I did and it went without errors
[15:48] <FloodBot2> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[15:48] <foso> is there anything i can do to make ubuntu run faster? im dual booting, and xp is kicking its butt i have 1280mem(my laptops max) 2.8 processor and a big hd
[15:48] <ali1234> Chamunks: there is a 'pdfutils' package that claims to be able to do it, im installing it now... also psutils can do it if you convert the pdf to a postscript first
[15:48] <jrib> !sudo > boguz (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:49] <AC0RN> yo guys i just installed my old 7.10 disc and when i updated i went to youtube.. and i cant see any videos
[15:49] <AC0RN> it says like my codec is wrong..
[15:49] <k3ito> anyone know how I can create one big mp3 from a cd with multiple tracks?
[15:49] <Junkee> AC0RN, you need to install flash player 9
[15:49] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: noroot is a very nice factoid
[15:49] <ali1234> Chamunks: there is also a package called multivalent but it's java and isn't in the repos...
[15:49] <Chamunks> ali1234, that would be nice kus there are some things i would love to have in hard copy.
[15:49] <Drk_Guy> dgjones: Nope
[15:49] <AC0RN> flashplugin-free?
[15:49] <Y0da^> anyone know if there's a patch or something for vmware workstatino 6 on feisty?
[15:49] <AC0RN> it says i already got it
[15:50] <Drk_Guy> dgjones: that copies a entire repo
[15:50] <Chamunks> ali1234, and boo on the java i wish it was more lightweight but alas it is not.
[15:50] <Sonja> how do i append 100 or so txt files sorted alphabetically into one giant txt file?
[15:50] <Drk_Guy> dgjones: I only want apt to isntall from the files i already have
[15:50] <Drk_Guy> Hmmphhh
[15:50] <ali1234> Chamunks: yeah... pdfutils is command line only though...
[15:50] <Leo1989> Sonja: C++, sh?
[15:50] <Junkee> goto the flash site and download their player
[15:50] <Pici> Sonja: cat files* >> bigfile
[15:50] <dgjones> Drk_Guy, thats why i thought it'd be over kill, maybe apt-on-cd would work
[15:50] <Drk_Guy> Maybe if i comment out the web repos
[15:50] <Drk_Guy> Muahahahahahaha
[15:50] <Sonja> cat!
[15:51]  * Drk_Guy laughes like an evil scientist
[15:51] <nickrud> Drk_Guy: look into apt-proxy, works well as an intermediary between the web repos and your local pacages
[15:51] <Chamunks> ali1234, i dont mind commandline I just sometimes feel too lazy to learn it.
[15:51] <sybariten> i doubt an evil scientist ever laughed in real history
[15:51] <boguz> for some reason, my Synaptics Touch pad stoped working. i tried the stuff on the wiki, but the problem is when i try to open my xorg.com it is empty!
[15:51] <pubo> Anybody using ldap + phpldapadmin?
[15:51] <boguz> what should i do?
[15:51] <Chamunks> ali1234, i have to be in the mood for the cli.
[15:52] <jrib> boguz: it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf, not xorg.com
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Drk_Guy: It should look in /var/cache/apt/archives before the web...
[15:52] <boguz> yes, sorry
[15:52] <nickrud> boguz: you sure that   /etc/X11/xorg.conf   is empty?  Case matters
[15:52] <pubo> I get: Could not start TLS. Please check your LDAP server configuration. error
[15:52] <Chamunks> ali1234, than again i install tilda every time i reload my ubuntu into my desktop so, meh go figure.
[15:53] <nickrud> !info tilda
[15:53] <ubotu> tilda: terminal emulator with first person shooter console likeness. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.09.4-4 (gutsy), package size 37 kB, installed size 176 kB
[15:53] <boguz> i think so. is there anyway to get the size of it or something to show you?
[15:53] <nickrud> boguz: ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:53] <Chamunks> nickrud, its like the command console in some fps games among other types but for your bash.
[15:54] <linduxed> what is the true CLI command ehind eject?
[15:54] <k3ito> does anyone know how to rip a cd with multiple tracks into one big file (soundjuicer doesn't have the option)
[15:54] <nickrud> Chamunks: I saw that, thought of some things to say but decided to be kind :p
[15:54] <boguz> nickrud, it said this: sparkybean
[15:54] <boguz> ops
[15:54] <boguz> this: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1129 2008-01-14 15:27 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:54] <awiseonhill> hi
[15:54] <nickrud> boguz: then it's 1129 characters long
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> boguz: paste this into the terminal     gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf          hint.. you will need to use the shift key to paste into the term
[15:54] <Pici> linduxed: What do you mean by 'the true command behind eject'?
[15:55] <Gearsmith> Are you guys all using Pidgin?
[15:55] <nickrud> boguz: Jack_Sparrow didn't mention it, but you can't save from there, it's a test just to see it
[15:55] <Chamunks> nickrud, lol i just like not having to drop into a total cli via ctrl+alt+fkey and dont feel like going through the effort to reach for my mouse to load a terminal.
[15:55] <awiseonhill> yes I use pigdin
[15:55] <ali1234> linduxed: eject is a real command, it uses ioctls
[15:56] <nickrud> Chamunks: heh. I have <super_l>t tied to gnome-terminal
[15:56] <jrib> !irc > gearsmith (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:56] <Drk_Guy> Good
[15:56] <boguz> ah, yes, now it is not empty because i was trying to write the stuff on the wiki page. otherwise than that it is empty...  (and the stuff i wrote there those not make the Synaptics work)
[15:56] <Drk_Guy> Placing the files on the /var/cache/apt/archives/ directory helped
[15:56] <k3ito> can mencoder rip a cd with multiple tracks to one big mp3? <note different question
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud: I told him 15 minutes ago he most likely used small x and he said the same to me as you.. I think so..  Hopefully he finds his xorg this time
[15:56] <Drk_Guy> Thanks guys
[15:57] <Gearsmith> How do you uneject (close)? Or is there not a terminal command for that? XD
[15:57] <Chamunks> nickrud, that would be pretty handy i should try that one at some point
[15:57] <awiseonhill> I use mldonkey I download but the files downloaded are invisible
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Drk_Guy: :)
[15:57] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow: saw that (or someone else, I've mentioned it also)
[15:57] <Chamunks> nickrud, what are you using for your keybindings?
[15:57] <boguz> i wrote:  gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     isn't it correct?
[15:58] <k3ito> sudo  gedi^^^
[15:58] <k3ito> sudo gedit
[15:58] <israel___> K3ITO: I think   " mplayer cdda:://track[-endtrack] -ao pcm; lame audiodump.pcm" do the job
[15:58] <Slart> !gksudo
[15:58] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[15:58] <k3ito> israel___: ty!!!!
[15:58] <Slart> boguz: never use sudo for gui apps
[15:58] <Jack_Sparrow> k3ito: No.. it would be gksudo gedit.. if we were editing it and not just looking at it
[15:58] <nickrud> Chamunks: in metacity, gconf-editor /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands and global_keybindings, and in compiz, general options commands and actions tabs
[15:59] <k3ito> Jack_Sparrow: never understood that, i use gedit and it works fine?!
[15:59] <boguz> so i got the right file. but now what can i do to put my Synaptics working again?
[15:59] <k3ito> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> k3ito: Dont use sudo for gui apps
[15:59] <Gearsmith> !virus
[15:59] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[15:59] <k3ito> Jack_Sparrow: whats wrong with that?
[16:00] <ali1234> Gearsmith: eject -t
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> k3ito: read the link we just provided...
[16:00] <k3ito> Jack_Sparrow: have heard this but never had it explained
[16:00] <k3ito> Jack_Sparrow: ty
[16:00] <nameless`> hi
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> k3ito: It is VERY important
[16:00] <boguz> the synaptics touchpad stoped working
[16:00] <Chamunks> nickrud, i've allways wondered how i could use metacity for my keybindings gawd thats a huge load off my shoulders.
[16:00] <nameless`> i've got a problem trying to get ink level of my epson dx5050
[16:01] <nickrud> k3ito: if you save options while running sudo gui app, the preferences file will get written to your home with root perms, and you will no longer be able to change them as your regular user. That's one consequence
[16:01] <nameless`> ink doesn't works (qink also)
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> boguz: Just to confirm.. you now can see a valid xorg.conf
[16:01] <linduxed> boguz: are you sure you havent just turned it off? that happened to me and i went all crazy
[16:02] <linduxed> boguz: Fn+F7 or some other F-key tends to solve such problems
[16:02] <visik7> anyone have tried to use ubuntu as an handset ?
[16:02] <Chamunks> I really love this channel people here are so helpful.
[16:02] <visik7> anyone have tried to use ubuntu as a bluetooth handset ?
[16:02] <boguz> i see the same xorg.conf  (but now it has the thigs i found on ths page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#troubleshooting )
[16:02] <boguz> Fn+F7 ? :|   lololol
[16:03] <k3ito> nickrud: interesting
[16:03] <linduxed> boguz: hehehehe i thought that too when i had been googling for about three days
[16:03] <Chamunks> The overall linux community pwns any win related socalled help destination anyday.
[16:03] <linduxed> Chamunks: gotta loooove linux communities
[16:03] <ikonia> visik7: ubuntu is an operating system, not a bluetooth device
[16:04] <nickrud> k3ito: you can experiment for yourself, try  sudo env | sort , sudo gksudo | sort  and compare the different environments
[16:04] <boguz> is it possible to re-install the synaptics?
[16:04] <Quicksilva> Hi.. When install gnome-themes-extras package where do the themes go?
[16:04] <betel> Wine fullscreen doesn't overlap the panels, and turning on the legacy fullscreen workaround in compiz doesn'thelp. Any other suggestions?
[16:04] <nickrud> k3ito: erm, the last one is only gksudo env | sort, doh
[16:04] <Quicksilva> I cant find them in the appearance
[16:04] <lukasz_> how do I make the splachscreen work again?
[16:04] <Chamunks> linduxed, i find i dont even bother in doze when i need to go find a solution for something if 5-10 mins of googling around doesent get me anywhere i just switch back to my nix
[16:04] <lukasz_> !uspsplash
[16:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uspsplash - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:04] <lukasz_> hmm
[16:04] <Pici> !usplash | lukasz_
[16:04] <nickrud> !usplash | lukasz_
[16:04] <ubotu> lukasz_: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[16:05] <linduxed> boguz: check in synaptic
[16:05] <lukasz_> thnx
[16:05] <`m0> Beh, I wish Windows Media Active X objects work in Mozilla
[16:05] <`m0> I tried installing ubuntu on my family pc, for 5 monhts
[16:05] <`m0> They want windows again :/
[16:05] <Chamunks> nickrud, thanks for the tip
[16:05] <ikonia> `m0: sorry, they don't
[16:05] <`m0> All because the windows media wont work :/
[16:06] <linduxed> Chamunks: well i dont give up that fast, but ive come to know from experience of repairing computers that the most common sollutions to all win related problems are as follows:
[16:06] <nickrud> Chamunks: yw, I like keyboards myself
[16:06] <`m0> active x objects
[16:06] <ballongen> hehe, while my father was on vacation, i installed ubuntu on his computer, he likes it :)
[16:06] <ikonia> `m0: they don't work
[16:06] <Chamunks> ali1234, thanks for the feedback really helped me sort out some ideas for how to do this.
[16:06] <juanky> buenas, alguien sabe algo para usar el fpc de ubuntu de una forma comodamente mas grafica que la consola?
[16:06] <linduxed> Chamunks: reboot, fix virus, reinstall win
[16:06] <lukasz_> My boot slapsh won't load the one that came with Ubuntu
[16:06] <`m0> It is the webadmin's fault
[16:06] <k3ito> nickrud: cheers... trying to convert people to ubuntu.  stuff like this leaves most people the other side of baffled.  just when you think you know what you're doing you get a slap in the face
[16:06] <nickrud> !es | juanky
[16:06] <ubotu> juanky: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:06] <ikonia> `m0: no it's not
[16:07] <Chamunks> linduxed, lol yeah well i know quite a bit about doze i've been playing around on computers since a tandy 2000.
[16:07] <frank__> leave
[16:07] <`m0> ikonia: it isn't compatible for firefox
[16:07] <ikonia> `m0: no - it's not compatible with linux
[16:07] <`m0> No, the website doens't work with firefox it needs IE, and linux doesn't have IE
[16:07] <nickrud> k3ito: look at it from the flip side: whenever you get bored, there's something new to explore :)
[16:07] <`m0> unless I do a wine iexplorer
[16:07] <ballongen> tandy2000 :)
[16:07] <ballongen> heh..
[16:08] <juanky> thx nickrud
[16:08] <_hakon_> what is wrong with flash install i cnat seem to make it work?
[16:08] <nickrud> !brokenflash | _hakon_
[16:08] <ubotu> _hakon_: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[16:08] <_hakon_> how long time for official fix?
[16:08] <sn0w> _hakon_, just goto adobe.com, grab the tar and run the setup in a terminal, takes 2 seconds
[16:08] <nickrud> _hakon_: been waiting for the official fix for over a month, fyi
[16:08] <Gearsmith> The immediate fix works.
[16:09] <Gearsmith> I just fixed it like an hour ago and I can watch YouTube videos again...
[16:09] <rgnr> need help with dosemu plz
[16:09] <lukasz_> oh well ni fix for splash toget it to work again
[16:09] <Chamunks> linduxed, windows made me lust for a good disk imaging software, installs win tweaks the poop out of it installs fav utils images drive.  Anytime after that if my comp slows the slightest dont bother fixing anything just restore image and go again.
[16:09]  * nickrud wonders if konqueror can use flash yet ...
[16:09] <lukasz_> I see ya soon all
[16:09] <Gearsmith> A music messaging session has been requested. Please click the MM icon to accept.
[16:09] <Chamunks> ballongen, i believe i still have that old thing kickin around somewhere
[16:09] <`m0> is there a way to reset my LOGIN screen?  When updating from gutsy my login screen doesn't show the users
[16:10] <chrisTriAx> hi everybody
[16:10] <Gearsmith> Updating from Gutsy? Isn't Gutsy the latest?
[16:10] <`m0> err the prev
[16:10] <boguz> any way to re-install the synaptics? from Synaptic i got nothing working
[16:10] <_hakon_> need help installing vlc
[16:10] <Gearsmith> I dunno. My login screen never showed a list of users.
[16:10] <`m0> did it when it came out, but just wondering about it now
[16:10]  * nickrud trumps Chamunks, touched seattle computing's version on an s100 bus
[16:10] <Pici> _hakon_: apt-get install vlc
[16:11] <sn0w> `m0, System -> Administration -> Login Window
[16:11] <Y0da^> Anyone know if there's a patch or something for vmware workstation 6 on feisty?
[16:11] <Qaldune> is there a way to install 32-bit gcc on ubuntu gutsy?
[16:11] <_hakon_> Pici: not working
[16:11] <sn0w> `m0, just change to a skin that shows the user list
[16:11] <Chamunks> nickrud, hehe alas i cant go that far back :P
[16:11] <_hakon_> nor did aptitude install vlc
[16:11] <Pici> _hakon_: Did you get an error?
[16:11] <_hakon_> yep
[16:12] <`m0> sn0w: I have the skin for the user list ... But that didn't work after the update
[16:12] <Chamunks> nickrud, i just wish i did sometimes that way i would probably have bothered to pick up some coding skills by now.
[16:12] <ballongen> is there a way to save programs while restarting GDM? like screen + irssi
[16:12] <sn0w> `m0, so that is the one selected but it is still not showing up?
[16:12] <`m0> I didn't really care about it, but just wondering if anyone knows how to recover the login prompt
[16:12] <k3ito> nickrud: hell I love learning a new OS never going back..  would love to see cubase released for linux alongside ableton/ unreal3 (when!!!) & some decent VJ software (EVE only works on 6.06 I can't get it to compile)
[16:12] <sn0w> ballongen, System -> Prefs -> Sessions
[16:12] <_hakon_> 'Reading package lists... Done
[16:12] <nickrud> Chamunks: you would have for self protection ...
[16:12] <_hakon_> Building dependency tree... Done
[16:12] <_hakon_> Initialising package states... Done
[16:12] <`m0> sn0w: the userlist is empyu
[16:13] <_hakon_> Building tag database... Done
[16:13] <_hakon_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[16:13] <_hakon_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[16:13] <FloodBot2> _hakon_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:13] <sn0w> ballongen, sesion options, and if you save that, next time you login it will bring all your apps back to the same status
[16:13] <Pici> <3 FloodBot
[16:13] <Pici> _hakon_: you need to prefix those commands with sudo
[16:13] <BlackSunrise> hOw do i fix my graphix accelerator?
[16:13] <nickrud> dang, I wish the bots wouldn't flood more than the users
[16:13] <Chamunks> nickrud, I hear that.
[16:14] <ballongen> snow: cool, like pidgin and so on? without closing my session of pidgin
[16:14] <sn0w> `m0, oh, hmm not sure on that one maybe try a diff skin, you can get a ton from gnome-look.org
[16:14] <_hakon_> sudo install apt-get install vlc?
[16:14] <`m0> sn0w: already did
[16:14] <Pici> _hakon_: yep
[16:14] <sn0w> ballongen, well when you logout it will close, but when you log back in, it will bring everything back to how it was
[16:14] <`m0> sn0w: after the update, the login screen is corrupted (i would guess) and I would want to see if I can recover it
[16:14] <bastid_raZor> _hakon_:: you'll leave off the first install .. sudo apt-get install vlc
[16:14] <ballongen> sn0w: cool, gotta try it out
[16:15] <_hakon_> not working
[16:15] <Chamunks> nickrud, well cheers for now im gonna finish unpacking from my trip~
[16:15] <sn0w> `m0, have you tried reinstalling the gdm?
[16:15] <nickrud> Chamunks: see you about
[16:15] <`m0> tha gdm controls that?
[16:15] <sn0w> yea
[16:15] <`m0> Okay, cool, that is what I need to know :p
[16:15] <sn0w> that is the gdm basically, your just picking the skin for it
[16:15] <_hakon_> unable to llock admin directory
[16:16] <Gearsmith> You could have hours of fun just messing with the desktop effects. Like wiggly windows and the 3D cube..
[16:16] <_hakon_> how do i enable 3dcube in ubuntu 6.06?
[16:16] <`m0> _hakon_: compiz-fusion ?
[16:16] <Gearsmith> System > Preferences > Appearance
[16:17] <nickrud> _hakon_: dapper doesn't have the 3d cube stuff
[16:17] <niklas> Hi
[16:17] <^root^> When i install Flash Player on Gutsy using Firefox and .tar.gz file, which path should i specify when it ask me : Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape....
[16:17] <W8TAH> how do i turn on colors in vim?
[16:17] <_hakon_> nickrud: that sucks
[16:17] <^root^> W8TAH, try editing vim config files in etc
[16:17] <nickrud> _hakon_: no, dapper came out before compiz was released. Just timing
[16:17] <pike_> ^root^: either your local .mozilla or /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[16:18] <ballongen> sn0w: seems that the session only starts my program, not "save the sate"
[16:18] <ballongen> state
[16:18] <W8TAH> ok
[16:18] <_hakon_> still need help on installing vlc
[16:18] <pike_> W8TAH: :syntax on
[16:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ^root^: common problem with people doing it manually is they do not create the /plugin folder
[16:18] <W8TAH> thanks
[16:18] <pike_> W8TAH: you can edit /etc/vim/vimrc and uncomment it there too
[16:18] <Oli``> Anybody found a way to get better performance from the latest Flash plugin?
[16:18] <W8TAH> cool - thanks
[16:18] <W8TAH> :)
[16:18] <sn0w> ballongen, oh really? sorry i guess I was wrong, i havnt really used that tool before but i thought maybe it could do that
[16:18] <nickrud> _hakon_: sudo apt-get install vlc , if it fails, copy the output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[16:18] <niklas> Am looking for a program that can make taskbar icons of running programs. I mean, I have two programs open all the time and it's anoying. It would be great if I can get these two in the Notification Area instead. Is it possible?
[16:19] <Gimbli> niklas: alltray
[16:19] <^root^> it doesnt recognize /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ or .mozilla/ says either directory doenst exist ot is not a directory
[16:19] <BlackSunrise> how do i figure out if the new wine that my add/remove tool installed is winehq?
[16:19] <Pici> BlackSunrise: What do you mean?
[16:19] <BlackSunrise> I downloaded wine regular.. and i installed it.. then it said i had updates available.. so i installed a new wine..
[16:19] <Pici> BlackSunrise: Whats winehq? #winehq is the wine channel, but its not a specific version iirc.
[16:20] <ballongen> anyone else know a way to save my sessions in programs (like pidgin with irc/msn/icq) when i logout? like system > prefs> session
[16:20] <BlackSunrise> i need to know if it is wine , wine hq, or cedega
[16:20] <_hakon_> nickrud: why would that help?
[16:20] <BlackSunrise> It's not a wine question.. it's a software question
[16:20] <Pici> BlackSunrise: If you installed Wine from the software repositories its just Wine.
[16:20] <anto> Heya
[16:20] <nickrud> _hakon_: if it doesn't install and you show me why (the output will say) I can help you fix it
[16:20] <Lr5__> How do you use an animated background in Ubuntu 7.10?
[16:20] <_hakon_> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51896/
[16:21] <_hakon_> nickrud: did that help?
[16:21] <anto> Can someone here help me, my mate tried to install both nvidia script and the glx package and now its a huge mess.
[16:21] <nickrud> _hakon_: yup. Do you have synaptic or the update-manger open? if so, close it and try again.
[16:21] <niklas> Gimbli: Thanks for the tip about alltray. Problem is that is not working ;)
[16:21] <_hakon_> i do
[16:22] <nickrud> _hakon_: only one package management front end can be open at a time
[16:23] <_hakon_> nickrud: i closed it and tryed again... Gave me this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51897/
[16:24] <nickrud> _hakon_:  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  , copy that to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[16:24] <spideyman> has anybody here sucessfully burned a diskjuggler cdi image on a linux system?
[16:24] <carl__> how do I install kde
[16:24] <^root^> i keep giving /usr/lib/mozilla and its keeps saying WARNING: Please enter a valid installation path. Though the path exists
[16:24] <niklas> When I would like to type a new address inside Firefox under Windows, I just click one time on the address field, everything gets selected, and I can type my new address. Under Ubuntu/Linux, the complete line is not selected when I press the address field. Instead I have to click ones and then press alt+a. Is their away aroud this so it gets selected directly?
[16:25] <^root^> carl__, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-dekstop
[16:25] <max-_-> hey. whats responsible for the "share folder" entry in nautilus context menus? my livecd is missing this entry and id like to install the missing pakets
[16:25] <_Garbage_> carl__ : /join #kde
[16:25] <Gearsmith> Is there a way to get Windows Media Player on Ubuntu?
[16:25] <^root^> Gearsmith, under wine, yes i think...
[16:25] <_hakon_> nickrud: gave this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51898/
[16:25] <spideyman> ^root^ sounds like your tring to install flash
[16:25] <[Chief]> hey, I have problems with NFS and special charachters. How can I tell NFS waht cahrset to use?
[16:25] <_Garbage_> Gearsmith: any special requirement ?
[16:25] <bobbob1016> I'm just figuring out SSH, and I am copying files, I found the syntax to do so, it won't let me copy them from/to a folder with a space in it though.  I do "ssh user@server cat /home/user/Abc\ Def/file > /home/user/file" and it says invalid location Abc, any ideas?
[16:25] <^root^> spideyman, yup... :P
[16:25] <_Garbage_> use mplayer or totem
[16:26] <spideyman> ^root^  r u using firefox
[16:26] <Gearsmith> No, I just Windows Media Player better than the others on Ubuntu.
[16:26] <ballongen> is kde4 stable in rep?
[16:26] <Pici> bobbob1016: Why not use scp?
[16:26] <Gearsmith> Totem is annoying for me.
[16:26] <dgjones> !kde4 | ballongen
[16:26] <ubotu> ballongen: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[16:26] <Pici> !players | Gearsmith