[00:00] <randomusr_> Is the raid issue with ext3 fixed yet?
[00:01] <kfarrell> hello, I created a RAID array using disk utility in 10.4, but it doesn't start at boot. Can anyone advise me how to get the array to start at boot (it's mounting as /home)?
[00:01] <PacketCollision> I'm trying to get my Synaptics touchpad to do two-finger scrolling under lucid.  At the moment, it works if I enable it manually via xinput commands, but the option is disabled in the Mouse preferences panel.  Does anyone know where I should look if I want to enable the option in prefs? I'm asking because I'd a) rather do it the "Right Way", and b) would like to contribute a patch/bug-report so it will work for others.
[00:05] <kfarrell> !factoid
[00:05] <Altin> what is the command to uninstall ./bin file?
[00:07] <methril_> hi trying to use the beta2 install cd breaks partitioning a TB disk
[00:07] <methril_> someone has any advice?
[00:08] <methril_> it freezes
[00:12] <kfarrell> hello, I created a RAID array using disk utility in 10.4, but it doesn't start at boot. Can anyone advise me how to get the array to start at boot (it's mounting as /home)?
[00:14] <randomusr_> kfarrell, is it listed in /etc/fstab ?
[00:15] <kfarrell> randomusr_, yes, it's an issue with /dev/md0 not being avaiaible. I have to go into disk util and manually start the array
[00:15] <randomusr_> what type of raid?
[00:16] <kfarrell> mirror
[00:26] <DanaG> Nice job, gwibber:
[00:26] <DanaG> "Replying to <other person's name> as"
[00:26] <DanaG> ... as?
[00:26] <DanaG> as what?
[00:26] <DanaG> And there's something cut off hanging below that.
[00:29] <look> ok when i try to boot into 10.04 it dies like i said last time i was in here. i get slplash but nothing ells just a blank screen that thinks its turned off
[00:32] <randomusr_> has anyone else had their ext3 raid volumes fail? if so, what raid controllers were being used?
[00:32] <look> does anyone know what going on?
[00:33] <look> i try to boot ubuntu 10.04 with live cd right and when it gets to splash screen my screen goes blank and nothing happens
[00:33] <randomusr_> look, try the alternate cd maybe
[00:34] <look> ttried
[00:34] <look> i even tried to boot from usb
[00:34] <look> i made usb with Unetbootin
[00:34] <randomusr_> what,s the video card you have?
[00:34] <look> Nvidea 9800
[00:34] <chrisl2424> hey, i need help installing a graphics card. It is a nvidia 210 geforce and everytime I try to install the driver for it on my new ubuntu (new beta) it fails the installation. The driver download from the website also fails. Can you please help me
[00:34] <randomusr_> desktop?
[00:34] <look> gnome ofc
[00:35] <randomusr_> chrisl2424, the issue with drivers from nvidia are known issues
[00:35] <methril> randomusr_: and with the ati too?
[00:35] <chrisl2424> okay, then you can help me, right?
[00:35] <Guest29932> i have some similar issues with ati
[00:35] <randomusr_> look, did you attempt to boot graphics safe mode?
[00:36] <randomusr_> methril, don't know about ATI
[00:36] <look> so how do i turn off quiet splash?
[00:36] <look> that is what they told me to do first
[00:36] <look> but i dont know how
[00:36] <chrisl2424> ? no, i do not know much about this
[00:36] <randomusr_> methril, the nvidia packages fail to meet many distro specific restrictions
[00:37] <randomusr_> yikes
[00:37] <randomusr_> a little additional help here
[00:37] <look> its sad that just one user cares enough to help people
[00:37] <randomusr_> !nvidia | chrisl2424
[00:37]  * look cheers on randomusr_
[00:38] <randomusr_> yea
[00:38] <randomusr_> !quiet
[00:38] <randomusr_> bummer
[00:38] <methril_home> i was using open ATI (radeon)
[00:38] <look> !lol
[00:39] <methril_home> but fails at init
[00:39] <look> =0
[00:39] <randomusr_> ok we get it
[00:39]  * look did not know it would do that
[00:39] <methril_home> i was going to try with radeon.modeset=0, but my partition gets corrupted
[00:39] <randomusr_> methril_home, sounds like you need to recompile the kernel or rebuild init to work with your driver
[00:39] <methril_home> i just backuped the data & i'm trying a fresh install
[00:40] <randomusr_> unfortunately, I don't know the process for that yet
[00:40] <methril_home> well, now i don't have a ubuntu in my system
[00:40] <randomusr_> meh
[00:40] <chrisl2424> ubottu: is there away around this
[00:40]  * miha started network install.. now it doesnt detect disk
[00:41] <chrisl2424> is there anyone intelligent in this chat
[00:41] <miha> it does offer to partition my usb disk though
[00:41] <Pici> chrisl2424: Please mind your attitude, the people here are all volunteers.
[00:42] <methril_home> chris4585: depends what you consider intelligence
[00:43] <chrisl2424> Does anyone know about graphic card drivers or a room that does
[00:43] <methril_home> chris4585: just ask
[00:44] <chrisl2424> hey, i need help installing a graphics card. It is a nvidia 210 geforce and everytime I try to install the driver for it on my new ubuntu (new beta) it fails the installation. The driver download from the website also fails. Can you please help me
[00:45] <methril_home> chris4585,: how it fails?
[00:45] <methril_home> put messages in pastebin
[00:45] <methril_home> !pastebin
[00:45] <randomusr_> chrisl2424, please be respectful, as was said before, these folks are volunteers
[00:45] <bogor> How do i enable breaking window effect on closing a window in compiz in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[00:45] <chrisl2424> I'll get the code it gives me, one sec
[00:46] <randomusr_> bogor, really? do you have compiz-config installed?
[00:46] <bogor> randomusr_, yes i have installed it
[00:46] <chrisl2424> /var/log/jockey.log
[00:47] <chrisl2424> that it what it gives me after failing the driver installation
[00:47] <PacketCollision> chrisl2424, try running "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current" in a terminal window
[00:47] <chrisl2424> k
[00:47] <PacketCollision> that worked for me, even though I couldn't get jocky to work
[00:47] <_CommandeR_> how do you list grub menu on boot ?
[00:48] <arand> _CommandeR_: Hold shift
[00:48] <gabby> do anyone know how to get unwanted icons in KDE netbook remix
[00:48] <randomusr_> bogor, search for compiz and look for animations
[00:49] <randomusr_> it may not be in the default install
[00:49] <chrisl2424> nvidia-current is already the newest version.
[00:49] <chrisl2424>
[00:49] <chrisl2424> what do i do now?
[00:49] <methril_home> what is the content of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[00:49] <iconmefisto> _CommandeR_: left shift key
[00:50] <PacketCollision> chrisl2424, if it's installed, your drivers should work
[00:50] <_CommandeR_> seems that i had to do grub-update
[00:50] <_CommandeR_> grub2-update
[00:50] <chrisl2424> But the driver does not work? it said it had failed installation and I have seen no effect of the card yet
[00:51] <randomusr_> PacketCollision, what's that command to confirm 3d functionality? something like glx-gears?
[00:51] <chrisl2424> Its worse then before and i had no graphics card to begin with, ran off cpu
[00:51] <PacketCollision> randomusr_, I always just try to enable Desktop Effects
[00:51] <randomusr_> chrisl2424, what motherboard and cpu are you using?
[00:52] <randomusr_> PacketCollision, meh
[00:52] <input`> pressing F6 at boot did not work
[00:53] <methril_home> chris4585: when you installed nvidia package where you asked to reboot the system?
[00:53] <randomusr_> I really hope chris isn't using an i series cpu with cpu video acceleration on some funky bios
[00:53] <PacketCollision> glxgears doesn't prove it's hardware acceleration, it works with mesa too
[00:53] <input`> it still was just a blank black screen after i pressed "try ubuntu without changing anything"
[00:53] <randomusr_> PacketCollision, someone told me it did over in compiz fusion a while back. oh well
[00:55] <chrisl2424> no i was not asked to reboot system and i am using an intel mother board
[00:55] <randomusr_> chrisl2424, could you pastebin you /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:55] <chrisl2424> what is pastebin?
[00:55] <randomusr_> chrisl2424, what's the model of your motherboard an cpu?
[00:55] <randomusr_> !pastebin | chrisl2424
[00:56] <Fishscene> Pastebin is a website where you can quickly and easily post logs and readouts for other people to read. We use it so that you don't spam the channel with huge blobs of text.
[00:56] <chrisl2424> intel pentium 4
[00:57] <bogor> Do i need to logoff and login to view each effect in compiz. b'cos i tried many changes. But nothing is reflecting.
[00:57] <PacketCollision> bogor, no, it should take effect immediately
[00:57] <Fishscene> bogor: I've noticed that I had to close the configuration window before the effect would apply.
[00:58] <chrisl2424> why do u want me to use paste bin, i am so confused
[00:58] <bogor> Thank you guys, do u knwo the name of the effect that makes the window breaks into pices upon closing the window. I just love that animation. Do know which one to choose from.
[00:58] <PacketCollision> chrisl2424: we need to see the contents of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[00:59] <input`> Can some one help me for a bit im getting a little frustrated
[00:59] <input`> ive been working on this problem for 3 days now
[00:59] <chrisl2424> what do i type in this? it's just a letter box
[01:00] <randomusr_> silly network
[01:00] <input`> i boot from a cd AND/OR usb after splash i get nothing even with quiet splash off
[01:00] <bogor> chris12424, read up on what is pastebin on wikipedia
[01:00] <PacketCollision> chrisl2424: in a terminal, type gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:00] <randomusr_> bogor, was someone able to help?
[01:00] <PacketCollision> highlight everything, copy, paste in the box on pastebin
[01:00] <bogor> randomusr_, no not yet
[01:01] <PacketCollision> then paste the url it gives you into the chat here
[01:01] <randomusr_> can you tell me if the nvidia config-settings package is installed?
[01:01] <PacketCollision> input`: what cpu/graphics card/motherboard/chipset are you using?
[01:01] <randomusr_> bogor, you could find it under system>administration I believe.
[01:01] <Fishscene> bogor: shatter? It should be a minimize or windows close effect. I don't have compiz in front of me at the moment, so I can't hunt it down myself. Maybe under Animation settings?
[01:01] <randomusr_> or preferences
[01:02] <PacketCollision> bogor: I didn't see it in the list of window effects.  Maybe it insn't included in Ubuntu's compiz distribution
[01:02] <PacketCollision> I assume you can add additional animations somehow
[01:02] <randomusr_> bogor, wait, did you enable effects?
[01:02] <bogor> randomusr, i find it under system -> prefrences
[01:02] <bogor> yes i did
[01:03] <randomusr_> do you have wobbly windows?
[01:03] <bogor> the maximum effect one
[01:03] <chrisl2424> i type that code in terminal and it gives me a blank page. Opens a writer to nothing
[01:03] <randomusr_> bogor, likely that Fishscene is correct.... it's shatter that you want
[01:04] <bogor> randomusr_, exaclty, where can it be found ??
[01:04] <randomusr_> fire up synaptic
[01:04] <chrisl2424> Nvidia 210 512 mb geforce graphics card with Pentium 4 intel processor
[01:04] <PacketCollision> chrisl2424: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current"
[01:04] <randomusr_> search for shatter or compiz xtra's or something
[01:04] <chrisl2424> k
[01:05] <bogor> randomusr_, i am not able to find it in compiz-config-settings or simple compiz settings
[01:05] <PacketCollision> randomusr_ / bogor: you'll definitely need compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:05] <randomusr_> synaptic package manager
[01:06] <PacketCollision> randomusr_ / bogor: but I couldn't find it in the list of effects in compizconfig settings manager
[01:06] <bogor> Ok i did search on ubuntu software center. I will try on command line also
[01:06] <randomusr_> PacketCollision, i don't think shatter is in the default compiz install and thus not compizconfig settings manager
[01:06] <PacketCollision> randomusr_: that's what I was thinking
[01:06] <bogor> randomusr_, that exaclty what i am also facing like what PacketCollion is saying
[01:08] <randomusr_> hehehe watch this, i'm smart
[01:09] <Phoenixz> Is there a known but about this in KDE? Im using kubuntu 10.04 beta 2, plasma-desktop suddenly is using like 1GB memory, kwin a good 450MB and xorg some 750MB.. since I have like 2,5GB memory, just opening firefox kicks me in swapping.. Is this a new bug? The alpha versions didn't have this issue..
[01:10] <Phoenixz> heh.. and then it drops back to normal values again (~50-100MB each)
[01:10] <randomusr_> Phoenixz, it's plasma, what can ya do?>
[01:11] <chrisl2424> I have compiz but i can't start it. how can I get it to stay on
[01:12] <randomusr_> can you not start it, or does it not stay on?
[01:12] <PacketCollision> chrisl2424: does choosing Normal from System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects make it run?
[01:13] <PacketCollision> that's the "Right Way To Do It" (tm)
[01:13] <randomusr_> lol
[01:14] <bowser> hi all, my boot screen does not show ubuntu logo, is there a way to fix it?
[01:14] <chrisl2424> like i have compiz but it's not on because i can't use the cube. How can i turn it on (that way did not work)
[01:15] <randomusr_> chrisl2424, go to preferences > compizconfig settings>  desktop
[01:16] <chrisl2424> nm, the cube started working out of no where
[01:16] <randomusr_> right
[01:16] <iconmefisto> I have no VTs. is this a plymouth bug?
[01:16] <PacketCollision> chrisl2424: the cube is not enabled by default.  Does Win+N invert the current window?
[01:17] <bowser> my boot animation disappeared once, playing with startupmanager hasn't helped, any ideas?
[01:18] <bjsnider> chrisl2424, how did you get lucid on your laptop?
[01:18] <tbobo05> Hey guys!  First time in the Ubuntu channel after 5 years as a user!
[01:18] <PacketCollision> tbobo05: welcome
[01:19] <tbobo05> Thanks PacketCollision.
[01:19] <bjsnider> this isn't the ubuntu channel
[01:19] <iconmefisto> bowser: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth  to choose a theme. then sudo update-initramfs -u
[01:19] <PacketCollision> well, it's an ubuntu channel, but not the ubuntu channel
[01:19] <tbobo05> I know, I joined this channel b/c I updated to Lucid Beta 2 the other day and had a few question.
[01:19] <tbobo05> questions*
[01:20] <PacketCollision> !ask |tbobo05
[01:20] <tbobo05> Ok, fair enough.  Wasn't sure of proper etiquette.
[01:20] <Fishscene> Has anyone been able to enable Visual effects in VMware workstation/Fusion?
[01:21] <tbobo05> After I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 Beta2, my external monitor has been acting a bit funky.  It seems as if the refresh rates are off.  I am using a ATIx1250 card and my external monitor is a Samsung 2333 (supporting 1080p @ 60Hz).
[01:21] <look> i keep getting this bug
[01:21] <look> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/526873
[01:22] <bowser> iconmefisto, trying that
[01:22] <Again617> My swap is disabled.  I check fstab and it is still in there
[01:22] <Again617> I've tried rebooting without success.
[01:22] <tbobo05> I've tried playing with the xrandr command to manually set refresh rates without success.  I was wondering if any of you have experienced this also?
[01:23] <Again617> My swap partition is /dev/sda5.  How do I check its UUID?
[01:23] <PacketCollision> tbobo05: you're using the ATI proprietary drivers?
[01:23] <tbobo05> no, open source.
[01:23] <PacketCollision> oh, ok
[01:23] <bjsnider> Again617, ls /dev/disk/by-uuid
[01:24] <Again617> right, I checked that and none of the UUIDs in there are also on the swap line in my fstab
[01:24] <bjsnider> Again617, ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -l
[01:24] <Again617> ok thanks
[01:25] <Again617> /dev/sda5 is not in there
[01:25] <bjsnider> then it doesn't exist i guess
[01:25] <Again617> When I open Disk Utility /dev/sda5 is in there and is shown as formatted as a swap type
[01:25] <bowser> iconmefisto, I'll reboot to see whether it works thank you!
[01:26] <PacketCollision> tbobo05: I only use Intel and Nvidia, so I'm afraid I can't help you
[01:27] <look> I am trying to boot ubuntu 10.04 from live cd, i boot from my cd, get the slpash and push enter on the "try ubuntu without changing anything" option and it gives me nothing ells just a blank black screen can anyone help me out with this?
[01:27] <tbobo05> Thanks PacketCollision, I appreciate your help.  Do you know of anything outside of the refresh rate that would cause the screen to look fuzzy?  (The monitor itself is fine, there is no distortion when I boot up and the BIOS logo comes on).
[01:28] <bjsnider> look, i'll bet your cd image was broken
[01:28] <PacketCollision> tbobo05: is it a CRT or LCD?
[01:28] <look> bjsnider: no i just downloaded a new one a few minutes ago burned it and tryed again
[01:28] <tbobo05> LCD
[01:29] <look> bjsnider, also i even tryed like 20 minutes ago to boot from a USB that i made from the new ISO
[01:29] <bjsnider> look, which image did you download?
[01:29] <PacketCollision> Then refresh shouldn't make a difference.  Most LCDs only support one speed anyway.  It might be an A->D conversion issue, assuming you're using VGA not DVI/HDMI
[01:29] <look> bjsnider, desktop cd
[01:29] <bjsnider> could also be that the panel isn't at the native resolution
[01:30] <bjsnider> look, imeant which version
[01:30] <look> bjsnider, how would i fix that
[01:30] <look> bjsnider, i have a Nvidea 9800 graphics card
[01:30] <look> bjsnider, i will try the Alternate cd first
[01:31] <tbobo05> Could be, I am using VGA.  It was working fine prior to my upgrade to 10.04.  I'm assuming the Radeon driver was updated and also the X-Org.  Is there a way to roll back to the previous driver and see if it helps?
[01:31] <look> bjsnider, can get back to you
[01:31] <bjsnider> look, you're not understanding my question. which lucid version did you download. what is the exact location of the image
[01:31] <tbobo05> The native resolution is 1920x1080 60Hz, which I have set in the Displays gui and have set with the xrandr.
[01:31] <bjsnider> give me the url of the image
[01:32] <look> bjsnider, http://mirrors.xmission.com/ubuntu-cd/10.04/ <--- ive used this one before and it worked with the first beta
[01:32] <bjsnider> look, wrong image. you should have downloaded the daily-livecd. could people please stop downloading the beta now, please?
[01:33] <look> bjsnider, will you give me URL?
[01:33] <bjsnider> !daily
[01:33] <look> bjsnider, thanks i will try this and get back to you
[01:33] <Again617> I have swap back.  I used mkswap on /dev/sda5 and then swapon to get it running.
[01:33] <Again617> I hope that I don't lose swap again. Should I file a bug on Launchpad about this?
[01:34] <bowser> iconmefisto, it didnt help :/
[01:34] <bjsnider> if you have a sufficient amount of ram, you don't need swap
[01:34] <Again617> I don't have sufficient amount of ram, I've been running my comptuer for the last while painfully.
[01:34] <Again617> I always had sudo killall chrome in a terminal in the background because at times the  computer would slow to an absolute crawl
[01:35] <Again617> I've been running it for about a week probably without swap and it has been a terrible week
[01:36] <bowser> iconmefisto, I have nvidia card and I switched from Kubuntu. After I switched my kubuntu splash stayed, later it changed into very few colors, finally it disappeared altogether
[01:38] <iconmefisto> bowser: might be related to the nvidia driver and kms
[01:39] <bowser> iconmefisto, well there is small garbage at the top of the screen
[01:39] <bowser> iconmefisto, however I had to install from CD and when running it, the splash worked
[01:40] <iconmefisto> bowser: you probably have a different driver installed now
[01:41] <bowser> iconmefisto, I do... thank you anyway
[01:44] <iconmefisto> I can't switch to a VT. any ideas?
[01:50] <ninjai_> anynody know how to get asus brightness keys to work? works in windows, xev shows no output when they are pressed
[01:50] <ninjai_> running 10.04 beta
[01:57] <ninjai_> anybody know how to troubleshoot non working brightness keys on laptop if xev shows no output??
[01:58] <Fudge> hi im trying to track down why my lucid beta2 / vinux keeps locking up, cpu temps fine, stress test didnt kill it but memtester i installed im not sure how to specify how to test like 3gig of the 4gig of ram,have read man page but hasnt helped me
[01:59] <Fudge> soemtimes it seems to be if i push a couple keys at once and others if the speech seems to have to read a lot and processing it makes it fall over :(
[01:59] <DanaG> ninjai_: what brand laptop?
[01:59] <ninjai_> danag: Asus UX50V
[02:00] <DanaG> ah, I don't know much about Asus stuff, unfortunately.
[02:00] <ninjai_> crap
[02:04] <chorse> ninjai_: can you set the brightness manually?
[02:04] <Volkodav> update-manager
[02:04] <ninjai_> nope, the app crashes
[02:04] <Fudge> is keegconnection.org anything to do with lucid repositires?
[02:05] <chorse> ninjai_: does something like /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness exist?
[02:13] <perscitus> Anyone know how to convert netbook image to flash drive with usb startup creator?
[02:17] <TecnoBrat> Anyone getting 100% CPU usage from mountall?
[02:18] <ninjai_> chorse: /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCDD/brightness
[02:18] <ninjai_> thats what i have
[02:19] <chorse> ninjai_: cat the file, do you see different modes (numbers)?
[02:20] <ninjai_> chorse: yes
[02:20] <chorse> perscitus: that's straightforward, download the image, plug a flash drive, start the creator, format the drive with it and select the netbook iso
[02:20] <ninjai_> chorse: 0-15
[02:21] <ninjai_> chorse: if I vi it and change "current: 15" will that update it?
[02:21] <perscitus> chorse,   there is a misssing step.
[02:21] <perscitus> Select the second partition in creator.
[02:21] <chorse> ninjai_: try to write one of these numbers into the file using "echo 5 | sudo tee /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCDD/brightness" for mode 5
[02:22] <chorse> perscitus: which one?
[02:22] <ninjai_> chorse: that works! but how do I get my key combination to recognize?
[02:23] <perscitus> I hate the button window layout for Lucid. its messed up.  Close should be on left and not on the right.
[02:23] <Fudge> are there any known bugs concerning keyboard repeat being enabled?
[02:23] <chorse> ninjai_: you can set it back to 15 the same way. the good news is, your graphics device works ;) but i'm sorry i don't know how to set up the combination for your model
[02:25] <perscitus> Close button for closing windows is to remain on the outside position. otherwise its just bad usability
[02:25] <hagabaka> are there known problems for the kernel in lucid with radeon video cards?
[02:25] <perscitus> hagabaka,   read release notes.
[02:26] <chorse> ninjai_: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1412922
[02:26] <chorse> your problem may be similar
[02:26] <nathanbrauer> Wow. I have 275 updates waiting for me....
[02:26] <ninjai_> chorse: yes i can set it up again
[02:27] <hagabaka> where can I find the release notes?
[02:27] <Pici> /topic
[02:27] <TecnoBrat> Anyone experiencing 100% CPU usage from the "mountall" process since updating packages in the last few days?
[02:28] <perscitus> I wonder how well Lucid netbook plays starcraft
[02:28] <hagabaka> you mean http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/beta2 ? that doesn't mention radeon, but has anyone else had problems
[02:29] <perscitus> hagabaka,   there isnt a driver issue anymore now
[02:29] <iconmefisto> I can't switch to a VT. any ideas?
[02:30] <perscitus> hagabaka,   in beta1 and before, Radeon drivers wouldnt work. But at beta1 release, it was fixed.
[02:33] <hagabaka> with the 2.6.32-20 and a few others before in lucid, I get a backtrace from radeon when booting, and X never shows. but 2.6.32 from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ works
[02:33] <perscitus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/494699
[02:33] <Pici> The radeon driver has been working fine for me since alpha 2 or 3.
[02:35] <perscitus> i missed ubuntu loading screen
[02:35] <hagabaka> I'm using the radeon driver, fglrx is not installed
[02:35] <perscitus> usplash didnt work in netbook install
[02:36] <nathanbrauer> Ubuntu keeps mounting a non-existent Blank CD-ROM Disc ....
[02:36] <_CommandeR_> guys how do you enable widescreen resolution in grub2?
[02:36]  * DanaG also has plymouth not work... since I have a serial console, it actively refuses to work.
[02:36] <nathanbrauer> I wasn't even touching the computer and it said that I inserted one.
[02:38] <_CommandeR_> for people having issues with plymouth check this out  = http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1453733
[02:39] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/516825
[02:40]  * nathanbrauer has to restart. He'll be right back
[02:42] <perscitus> How come Lucid doesnt detect wireless networksi n range?
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> Proberly an issue with your specific wireless card perhaps.
[02:45] <perscitus> Im sure it works
[02:46] <perscitus> Dr_Willis,   cuz it works in Karmic
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> its linux xrivers in the new kernel may have issues.
[02:46] <Fudge> could i please have some help
[02:47] <Fudge> my ubuntu keeps freezing and doing strange things
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Care to give a few more details to the channel?
[02:48] <Fudge> im not sure what should be given, i just do my normal tasks and the machine locks up, checked cpu temp but not ram yet. its a new quadcore shuttle one one hdd in it. using beta2 lucid
[02:49] <perscitus> darn it. Wifi isnt working in Lucid with Dell Mini
[02:49] <Fudge> i havnt run memtester yet as cant figure out how to actually run the test, the cli memtester
[02:50] <perscitus> Dr_Willis,   it says device not ready
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Ive heard of some Specific issues with some wireless on some netbooks in the latest kernel.
[02:51] <Fudge> though last night i left stress running and machine was still operating in the morning. th last time i pinged here was because i moved to my gnome-terminal window, hot control after switching screen consoles and it locked up. seems to be on keyboard input
[02:52] <Fudge> is there any kind of monitoring tool i can install that will track crashes and lockups with a report
[02:53] <perscitus> Dr_Willis,  That would bring EPic Fail to Ubuntu developers
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> perscitus:  i dont recall what netbook. but there was some issue with some changes to the kernel.. it wasent ubuntu specific.
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> so i dont recall the details either.
[02:54] <nathanbrauer> Grrr....Ubuntu is failing at unmounting my iPod Touch.
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> fix to one thing.. broke some other chipsets/vairant of the same chipset.
[02:54] <nathanbrauer> and it can never send crash reports...
[02:54] <_CommandeR_> anyone knows how to change resolution in grub, ?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> in /etc/default/grub i just used a -->
[02:55] <Fudge> nathanbrauer  was that to me?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> GRUB_GFXMODE=1680x1050
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> and rerean update-grub and it works here.
[02:55] <perscitus> Dr_Willis,   i cant use google to search... Karmic flooded results
[02:55] <DanaG> None of my systems have any widescreen vbe modes for grub to use.
[02:55] <DanaG> sudo hwinfo --framebuffer
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> # note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> # you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo'
[02:56] <perscitus> Anyone care to help me with wifi?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> that says to go to the GRUB command line at boot and run the vbeinfo command? im not sure. :)
[02:57] <nathanbrauer> Fudge, no, it was just me venting
[02:57] <_CommandeR_> hm
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> bye all
[02:58] <_CommandeR_> o/
[02:58] <perscitus> stupid ubuntu 10.04
[02:58] <_CommandeR_> DanaG,
[02:59] <_CommandeR_> DanaG, there is no output from hwinfo --framebuffer in terminal only command not found
[02:59] <Fudge> please help me before my computer goes out the window
[02:59] <Fudge> :)
[02:59] <DanaG> ah, it's a package: hwinfo
[02:59] <DanaG> install that package to get that command. =þ
[02:59] <_CommandeR_> done
[03:00] <ninjai_> chorse: are you the one that suggested that thread? you NAILED it, thanks a lot! I dont know hwo I never found that thread before... or how nobody else could figure it out :D
[03:00] <_CommandeR_> DanaG, seems that it only supports 1024x768
[03:00] <chorse> ninjai_: you're welcome ;)
[03:01] <DanaG> Bummer.
[03:01] <DanaG> My system offers up to 1600x1200 (since native is 1920x1200)... but if I do that resolution, everything's rather horribly garbled.
[03:02] <perscitus> Can some1 please help with Wifi on Mini 10v?
[03:03] <_CommandeR_> DanaG, hm it is a intel 965 so, but odd i cannot use native res on the laptop
[03:03] <perscitus> I wish people would staying in channels.
[03:04] <_CommandeR_> i have to get some sleep o/
[03:05] <perscitus> and i have to get wifi working
[03:05] <UnNaturalHigh> Is anyone else here having problems with brightness keys?
[03:07] <UnNaturalHigh> For the entirety of Karmic I couldn't use my brightness keys and it seems the problem still exists in Lucid
[03:07] <UnNaturalHigh> Actually now it is worse, I can't even use the brightness app in lucid, lol
[03:08] <nonameNN> UnNaturalHigh: they dont work on my laptop... the only ubuntu version that make them work was 8.04 i have an hp dv6753cl
[03:09] <UnNaturalHigh> nonameNN, same here, 9.04 worked for me too
[03:09] <nonameNN> UnNaturalHigh: i didnt try to find any solution though...
[03:10] <perscitus> UnNaturalHigh,   Works in my dell mini 10v
[03:11] <iconmefisto> I can't switch to a VT. any ideas?
[03:14] <genii> iconmefisto: What do you get? Blinking cursor? Garbled text?
[03:14] <iconmefisto> genii: blinking cursor
[03:15] <iconmefisto> genii: also, X is on vt8 not vt7
[03:15] <genii> Hm
[03:16] <Volkodav> what is the user's name on live CD ?
[03:16] <perscitus> X is VT7
[03:16] <nonameNN> Volkodav: ubuntu? password ubuntu i would guess...
[03:17] <Volkodav> I'll try
[03:17] <iconmefisto> if I remove splash or use nosplash in kernel line, does that disable plymouth?
[03:17] <perscitus> i figured out my wifi problem
[03:17] <Volkodav> nope nonameNN
[03:18] <nonameNN> try in #ubuntu if no one knows it... mine was just a guess.... sorry man
[03:18] <iconmefisto> Volkodav: try ubuntu with blank password
[03:21] <ninjai_> chorse: would you know how to key my keyboard backlight keys to work now too? :D
[03:21] <spvensko1> what's the expected release date for 10.04 final?
[03:21] <chris4585> spvensko1, 29th
[03:21] <spvensko1> ty
[03:22] <perscitus> oh my. i hardlocked
[03:22] <perscitus> Lucid hard locked
[03:22] <jmcantrell> gnome do will not start
[03:22] <jmcantrell> anyone experiencing this?
[03:23] <input`> bjsnider, the daily build did not work for me.
[03:24] <look> bjsnider, this time i didnt even get a splash screen
[03:26] <perscitus> Now Lucid wont connect to wifi
[03:26] <look> at least yours boots
[03:26] <look> i don't even get a splash screen all i get is a blank screen and a running computer
[03:26] <chorse> ninjai_: there was a patch some time ago on lkm, don't know if it has made its way into stable or ubuntu yet, https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/44491/
[03:27] <look> chorse, can you help me on this issue.
[03:28] <chorse> look: what's your graphics hardware?
[03:28] <look> nvidea 9800
[03:29] <look> chorse, Nvidea 9800 GT
[03:30] <chorse> did you upgrade or is it a fresh install?
[03:30] <look> chorse,  i just had the daily release
[03:30] <look> chorse, wanted to try it out as live cd
[03:30] <alex_mayorga> bug 561151
[03:31] <shawnboy> Can someone suggest how to successfully get Adobe Flash plugin working in mozilla. I've done it many times in previous releases.
[03:31] <chorse> look: so you don't use an installed version?
[03:31] <look> chorse, i do this for all the ubuntu from 8.04 up since i used it my first time in 2006
[03:32] <look> chorse, no just a live cd from the daily iso's
[03:32] <look> its not my cd drive (brand new just got it 1 week ago)
[03:32] <alex_mayorga> !flash
[03:32] <chorse> in that case i'd say wait for the final release and hope it will be fixed by then
[03:32] <alex_mayorga> shawnboy: see ubottu above
[03:33] <shawnboy> I tried downloading and extracting libflashplayer.so and putting it into .mozilla/plugins/ but that doesn't work.
[03:33] <look> bug 561153 i think it that one that alex_mayorga pointed out
[03:33] <look> 561151 i mean
[03:34] <chorse> yes, it looks like that
[03:35] <shawnboy> alex_mayorga, ok. thanks. I'll try that. I wonder why the old way doesn't work anymore. Oh well.
[03:36] <look> chorse, how would i apply this fix to my iso?
[03:36] <look> chorse, never did anything my iso's before
[03:36] <look>                     ^to
[03:37] <chorse> you should wait until if it fixed
[03:38]  * look will wait, i am sad that my compy cannot boot linux when EVERY other linux beta boots...
[03:44] <chrisl2424> what room can i go in for windows help
[03:44] <perscitus> ##windows
[03:44] <chrisl2424> k, i hate windows
[03:47] <Fudge> ok that lockup was pushing f6 in a pidgin window, pushing control to halt speech and up arrow to freeze system
[03:49] <perscitus> how do you enable path in nautilus?
[03:51] <Chipaca> perscitus: Ctrl-L ?
[03:52] <chrisl2424> windows form useless
[03:57] <MrDowntempo> I installed this beta a day or two ago on a brand new machine. After the first update my install was hosed. Guess it was #561151. I reinstalled and now everything is dandy. I see that the fix is out, (according to the topic) does that mean its okay to run updates now?
[03:58] <look> bug 561151
[03:59] <look> MrDowntempo, im getting the same bug but it wont even let me install from cd when i boot it wont even give me splash screen
[04:00] <MrDowntempo> when I click mark all updates it will update to <IP_ADDRESS> which is the bad kernel. I don't see <IP_ADDRESS> at least not in the default repos
[04:00] <holstein> bad kernel?
[04:00] <MrDowntempo> look, well I was able to reinstall by booting to the beta2 cd
[04:00] <holstein> OH..
[04:00] <IdleOne> no issues here with <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:01] <IdleOne> but then again WFM is not a good gage
[04:01] <Random832> so does lucid support LILO? (at least as well as Karmic?) - my laptop has issues with grub
[04:01] <look> MrDowntempo, not even the beta2 cd works for me
[04:02] <IdleOne> look: then it is a case of bad download or PEBKAC :)
[04:02] <chorse> Random832: lilo is still included.
[04:02] <MrDowntempo> or a bad burn
[04:02] <look> ive downloaded the iso 7 times today
[04:02] <look> burned it 7 times over
[04:02] <IdleOne> look: burn as slow as possible
[04:02] <look> on a differant disc then i tried USB boot
[04:03] <look> same problem with usb
[04:03] <look> my computer says hey look LINUX! YAY! BOOT TIEM!
[04:04] <look> then it tries to boot and i dont get GUI, i dont get even a command line my screen goes dead and my green light on my screen goes yellow like its in sleep mode
[04:04] <MrDowntempo> does it not boot to the linux image?
[04:04] <MrDowntempo> hmmm, dunno
[04:04] <look> i burned many discs of both the desktop cd and the alternate cd
[04:05] <MrDowntempo> Does " Fixed kernel now on archive and mirrors"  mean its safe to do an upgrade via synaptic now?
[04:05] <IdleOne> MrDowntempo: all upgrades are at your own risk in Beta
[04:05] <Random832> chorse: don't suppose there's any chance it works any better than karmic, is there? (i have to manually update for each kernel update, and i had to put in a fake "update-grub" to make it happy
[04:05] <Random832> or was i just doing it wrong?
[04:05] <MrDowntempo> look: you might be having a different issue entirely then. Possibly bad hardware or an incompatibility. Have you tried a different OS?
[04:06] <Random832> (there seems to be an "update-lilo", i just noticed - how do i actually tell it i'm using lilo as a boot loader so it runs that instead of trying and failing to find update-grub)
[04:06] <look> MrDowntempo, yes ive booted 9.10 live cd also puppy linux and even windows Bart PE cd
[04:06] <sagaci> how can you disable keyrings and authenticate automagically
[04:06] <MrDowntempo> IdleOne, certainly, but i mean in respect to the (known) bad kernel.
[04:07] <IdleOne> MrDowntempo: I assume it is safe now according to topic
[04:07] <MrDowntempo> IdleOne I just wasn't sure what archive it was refereing to. Guess I'll give it a go
[04:08]  * MrDowntempo crosses fingers
[04:08] <nathanbrauer> Can anyone help me setup a LAMP stack on Lucid?  Does Lucid ship with a server pre-installed, because I think there may be competition for my :80 port.
[04:08] <IdleOne> !lamp
[04:09] <h00k> if I were to file a bug for this icon, what should I file it under? http://anthonyrhook.com/dump/Screenshot-3.png
[04:10] <h00k> nathanbrauer: it doesn't ship pre-installed, no.
[04:10] <MrDowntempo> totally unrelated but... ambiance and radiance are sexy as hell, but is it possible for me to move the close/min/max to the right side of windows?
[04:11] <nathanbrauer> IdleOne, thanks.  h00k, I know LAMP isn't pre-installed, but before I installed apache, http://localhost/ was saying that something was setup correctly
[04:11] <ZykoticK9> !controls | MrDowntempo
[04:11] <IdleOne> h00k: what do the properties say for that icon?>
[04:11] <h00k> IdleOne: I don't know, it's in the alt-tab switcher when there is a message pending on Empathy
[04:12] <shawnboy> I'm back. I followed instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash with no success. Any other ideas?
[04:12] <h00k> IdleOne: I don't know what the icon belongs to, Empathy? The Radiance theme?
[04:12] <IdleOne> h00k: right click on it
[04:12] <h00k> IdleOne: I can't, it's in the alt-tab switcher!
[04:12] <IdleOne> hmm
[04:13] <h00k> it's the thumbnail preview if that window is minimized
[04:13] <IdleOne> I would guess Empathy
[04:13] <h00k> That's what I would think, too, but I'm not sure
[04:13] <IdleOne> from what it looks like you got running there
[04:13] <MrDowntempo> thanks ZykoticK9
[04:15] <IdleOne> MrDowntempo: l2r is to change the buttons layout from left side of the window to  the right side , hit the  alt-F2 keys then type gconf-editor, then Applications > metacity  > general > button layout > menu:minimize,maximize,close or type the following command in Terminal: gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string  "menu:minimize,maximize,close"
[04:17] <shawnboy> Any suggestions for getting Adobe Flash 64-bit working in Firefox?
[04:17] <exigraff> h00k: /usr/share/empathy/icons/hicolor/16x16/status/im-message.png, perhaps
[04:19] <h00k> exigraff: that looks like it
[04:21] <agronholm> shawnboy, download and extract it in ~/.mozilla/plugins
[04:21] <agronholm> libflashplayer.so that is
[04:21] <shawnboy> first thing I tried, agronholm
[04:22] <shawnboy> agronholm, worked for me in several other installations but not for Lucid.
[04:22] <agronholm> well it works for me, what happened in your case then?
[04:22] <shawnboy> agronholm, :)  nothing happens. that's the problem.
[04:22] <shawnboy> agronholm, weird.
[04:22] <agronholm> it works here
[04:22] <shawnboy> agronholm, trade me machines?
[04:22] <agronholm> pass
[04:22] <shawnboy> figures.
[04:24] <h00k> IdleOne: reported it
[04:24] <IdleOne> h00k: that is UNR you are running?
[04:24] <h00k> IdleOne: yes
[04:24] <IdleOne> looks pretty
[04:24] <h00k> IdleOne: thank you :)
[04:25] <IdleOne> by the way dude, your badges are awesome looking printed also
[04:25] <IdleOne> :D
[04:25] <h00k> IdleOne: they do?? Sweet!
[04:25] <IdleOne> yup
[04:26] <IdleOne> now to figure out how to print them on stickers
[04:26] <IdleOne> hehe
[04:27] <shawnboy> agronholm, what do you know... it works now. Maybe I downloaded wrong file earlier.
[04:27] <agronholm> heh
[04:27] <agronholm> flash probably still has input bugs in it
[04:28] <agronholm> like typing characters outside of the ASCII range gives weird output
[04:28] <agronholm> since flash apparently assumes latin1
[04:28] <shawnboy> It's been one of those days for me though... absent-minded.
[04:29] <shawnboy> farewell.
[04:30] <Zelozelos> hows it hangin holstein
[04:33] <holstein> Zelozelos: ;)
[04:33]  * holstein hangin in there
[04:34] <Zelozelos> holstein good 2 hear same here
[04:39] <almoxarife> anyone having problems with chromium daily builds, mine seems to be getting profile errors at every startup and I don't believe its closing properly
[04:40] <Zelozelos> is advanced ccsm working right? im thinkin about installin it but im hoping this time it wont interfere with blender's hotkeys, (i ws using ubuntu 9.10 last time ) it did even with the fusion icon set to metacity
[04:40]  * Zelozelos wants his cube back :(
[04:41] <git__> is anyone here using SSD running Ubuntu 10.4?
[04:41]  * MTughan gives Zelozelos a Mac G4 Cube
[04:41] <git__> will there be performance increase?
[04:41] <MTughan> git__: Not yet, but I hope to have one in the coming days.
[04:41] <Zelozelos> wats SSD?
[04:41] <MTughan> Solid State Drive.
[04:41] <git__> MTughan, PATA or SATA interface?
[04:41] <MTughan> Hard drive that uses flash NAND memory instead of spinning platters to store info.
[04:41] <MTughan> git__: You can get ones with parallel?
[04:42] <git__> MTughan, from Kingspec
[04:42] <git__> I have 4 T40 laptops
[04:42] <MTughan> Huh... No, SATA here.
[04:42] <csgeek> hey.. really silly question.  I want to add a program to startup when I login
[04:42] <git__> PATA SSD is more expensive than SATA
[04:42] <csgeek> where did the session manager go  in lucid?  they moved things around on me
[04:42] <chris4585> csgeek, system > preferences > startup
[04:42] <MTughan> git__: Frankly, a PATA SSD is probably a waste of money. It can't keep an SSD saturated.
[04:43] <MTughan> Granted SATA 3Gb/s can barely keep it saturated either, but it's a lot closer to the theoretical limit.
[04:43] <git__> MTughan, I use PATA SSD not for the performance, but the lifetime of the laptop ... mechanical hard drive dies every 3 year
[04:43] <git__> well ... not sure if Ubuntu 10.4 is optimized for SSD
[04:44] <MrDowntempo> Is empathy supposed to startup at bootup?
[04:44] <MTughan> git__: I don't know that any operating system can be "optimized" for SSD, but I've heard that 10.04 can achieve a 10s boot with a new install on an SSD.
[04:44] <csgeek> chris4585: oops.  silly.  thanks
[04:44] <chris4585> csgeek, np
[04:46] <iconmefisto> MTughan: could be optimised in this sense: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM_%28SSD_command%29#Operating_system_support
[04:47] <MTughan> iconmefisto: Don't know that I would call that optimized for SSD. Just makes it a little better in the long run. And drives with builtin GC don't need TRIM as much.
[04:47] <MTughan> Anyway, gotta run...
[04:54] <bisby> if i have a package that isnt fully installed, but gets errors when i try to remove it, what can do about that?
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> bisby, using "dpkg -r PACKAGENAME" *should* remove it
[04:55] <Zelozelos> can i have diff backgrounds for each workspace and still have icons?
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> bisby, does this package happen to be related to audacious?
[04:55] <bisby> ZykoticK9, its fglrx
[04:56] <ZykoticK9> bisby, ahhh
[04:57] <bisby> ZykoticK9, to get it to work on 10.04 I had to remove /usr/lib/fglrx and /usr/share/ati manually after uninstalling. after updating to the latest kernel it stopped working again. i forgot to run the remove before removing those 2 directories again... now it wont uninstall to install a newer version
[04:57] <ZykoticK9> bisby, sorry man - i don't run ATI so have 0 ideas
[05:05] <ZykoticK9> !controls | ViridianFire
[05:06] <ViridianFire> Why are they on the left in the first place?
[05:06] <ViridianFire> I thought they fixed that
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> ViridianFire, that's the default for Lucid
[05:06] <ViridianFire> yeah but I had heard that they changed ti back to the right
[05:06] <ViridianFire> so I installed it and it was on the right
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> ViridianFire, nothing to be fixed - it will be the final version
[05:07] <ViridianFire> but then today it switched to the left
[05:16] <Zelozelos> its easy 2 switch it to what ever side u desire, check out how-to-geek's site
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> Zelozelos, ViridianFire is long gone...
[05:17] <Zelozelos> rofl i just noticed :)
[05:22] <Zelozelos> is there a way to make empathy stop showing part/join messages?
[05:36] <chris_> why does 10.04 always look for a cd before it will boot? It will say it cant find the cd, keep waiting or press s to continue
[05:39] <Zelozelos> is there a way to make Empathy stop showing join/part messages?
[05:48] <voss749> 10.10 Mating Meerkats
[05:52] <Lazy^>  /win 27
[05:57] <bullgard4> [GNOME] I upgraded 2 Ubuntu 9.10. One shows the quit symbol in the title bar of the windows to the left, the other at the right. How can change the latter to the right?
[05:58] <bullgard4> [GNOME] I upgraded 2 Ubuntu 9.10s. One shows the quit symbol in the title bar of the windows to the left, the other at the right. How can change the latter to the left?
[06:01] <fvs> select an alternative theme: System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[06:01] <fvs> bullgard, try New Wave
[06:02] <bullgard4> fvs: Your answer is wrong. I have selected the same theme. It is Human-Clearlook on both computers.
[06:02] <ZykoticK9> fvs, windows controls isn't changed by theme
[06:02] <ZykoticK9> !controls | bullgard
[06:04] <Zelda> Hello.
[06:04] <Zelda> Is there an adobe reader for Lucid AMD64?
[06:05] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, you can download the bin from Adobe, but it's not in the default repo no
[06:05] <Zelda> Im not good with installing from a bin.
[06:05] <Zelda> I dont know how to.
[06:06] <Zelda> will you assist me?
[06:07] <Zelda> Oh theres a problem. There isnt an 64bit version is there?
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, i really can't right now sorry.  But download the bin from http://get.adobe.com/reader/ then from a terminal "chmod +x THEFILENAME", then install with "sudo ./THEFILENAME" *should work* best of luck.
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, no 64bit version that i'm aware of
[06:08] <bullgard4> ZykoticK9: You suggested me to read http://alturl.com/b6ja. I have done so. This however does not help me to move the close buttons to the left. They are still on the right. How can I change that so that they will appear on the left?
[06:08] <Zelda> yeah there isnt one on there webpage. I have an AMD64. I have tried to DL the x86 and obviously that doesnt work.
[06:08] <Zelda> er their.
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> bullgard, the second part of the factoid show how to move left/right http://alturl.com/x5d6
[06:08] <Zelozelos> is there a way to show the volume but not the letter-looking icon?
[06:09] <ZykoticK9> Zelozelos, yes see http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/remove-mail-icon-leave-volume-control
[06:09] <Zelozelos> thank you ZykoticK9
[06:10] <Zelda> thanks ZykoticK9. I'll try what you said.
[06:10] <Zelda> I dont think the x86 will work on AMD64 but Ill give it a shot.
[06:11] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, it will i've done it
[06:11] <Zelda> ok thanks
[06:12] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, looks like i'm hanging around - so just shout if you run into any problems
[06:13] <bullgard4> ZykoticK9: It worked!  --  Thank you very much for your help.
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> bullgard4, glad to help
[06:13] <Zelda> ok.
[06:14] <Zelda> so after I go "sudo chmod +x ... it goes green and then the install is messing up.. what do I need to do?
[06:15] <Zelda> I typed "sudo install ./"filename" and it gives me an error.
[06:15] <Zelda> hang on.. let me try with out the ./
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, what is the actual filename of the acroread?
[06:15] <Zelda> yes,.
[06:15] <Zelda> Im not that retarded.
[06:15] <Zelda> hang
[06:15] <Zelda> AdbeRdr9.3.2-1_i486linux_enu.bin
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, drop the "install" part
[06:16] <Zelda> ok
[06:16] <bullgard4> ZykoticK9: So the wording of ubottu : "To move them back to the right-hand side, see http://alturl.com/x5d6" is somewhat misleading and should be corrected.
[06:16] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, so it's "sudo ./AdbeRdr9.3.2-1_i486linux_enu.bin"
[06:16] <Zelozelos> ok now i want to get rid of the one that has my name and a circle with an x in it (if u click on it it has ubuntu one and a status things) whats that one called?
[06:16] <Zelda> Ok thanks. Its extracting it says.
[06:16] <Zelozelos> it has the power one attached to it
[06:17] <Zelda> and i put the files in /zelda/home right?
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> Zelozelos, can you right-click "remove from panel"
[06:17] <Zelda> or just ./
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, you need to be in the same directory to use ./
[06:18] <Zelda> I am in the same dir
[06:18] <Zelozelos> i still want the power one
[06:18] <Zelda> its asking where  you want to install dir.
[06:18] <ZykoticK9> Zelda, that's up to you where to install - into your home dir or /opt would be fine
[06:18] <Zelda> thanks.
[06:19] <ZykoticK9> Zelozelos, sorry don't know how to separate those ones sorry
[06:19] <Zelda> its going. Thanks for the assist.
[06:19] <Zelozelos> ah well thank you anyhow
[06:20] <Zelozelos> oh cool i just found the shut down applet, that'll work :)
[06:20] <robertzaccour> will gnome 3 be in 10.10?
[06:21] <ZykoticK9> robertzaccour, probably, but i don't think its been officially announced yet
[06:23] <robertzaccour> ZykoticK9, oh ok because i know gnome 3 will be ready not too long before 10.10, just wasn't sure if that would be too rushed to get it on there or what
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo +1
[06:25] <markl_> is anyone here familiar with setting up a PPA?
[06:26] <robertzaccour> markl_, a little
[06:26] <markl_> is that anything beyond just an http server that apt-get can hit?
[06:26] <robertzaccour> markl_, i know how to copy/paste to the gui
[06:26] <markl_> i have set up apt repositories before, just wondering if PPA is the same thing
[06:27] <robertzaccour> PPA usually has an authentication key right?
[06:27] <robertzaccour> not sure on the terminology, got some experience though i could probably look at it and figure it out
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> Robertzaccour: i'd email some guys who made their own to ask how they did it
[06:28] <robertzaccour> i've never made a ppa, just used them
[06:28] <chris_> why does 10.04 always look for a cd before it will boot? It will say it cant find the cd, keep waiting or press s to continue
[06:28] <fvs> robertzaccour, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Chris_: is your bios first boot device a cd?
[06:29] <robertzaccour> i'm goin to sleep, later yall
[06:29] <chris_> probably but with 9.10 if there was no cd it would just skip it
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> Chris_: set your bootable hdd as first boot, see if it changes
[06:30] <chris_> alright. i will be back
[06:32] <bullgard4> [GNOME] I forgot where I can set that menu items not only show a text but in addition a symbol. Was that somewhere in Nautilus?
[06:37] <chris_> ActionParsnip: i just changed it and it didnt work
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> Ok so its definately the OS
[06:38] <Zelda> interesting. A new MyTouch Slide...
[06:38] <Zelda> hrm. I was about to get the MyTouch 3g.
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> Only thing I can advise is look at your grub config as that is clearly at fault. I'm not too conversant with grub but you now know the culprit
[06:38] <Zelozelos> Chris_ are you dual booting?
[06:38] <chris_> the new purple ubuntu screen comes up and says: the disk drive for /media/sdb1 is not ready yet or not present. continue to wait, or press s to skip mounting
[06:38] <chris_> yes
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> Chris_: then review /etc/fstab with the output of: sudo fdisk -l; sudo blkid
[06:40] <ninjai_> chorse: for my keyboard backlight I looked at the link you sent me and I have the file they mention.  it works if i use echo <0-3> | tee <filename>, but the shortcut keys dont work.  any idea how I can do this? shortcut keys show up in xev..
[06:47] <ninjai_> anyone know how how i can get my keyboard shortcut keys to work for backlight? this command works: /usr/bin/keyboard_backlight 3
[06:47] <ninjai_> but i cant get it to do it with the shrotcut keys
[06:47] <ninjai_> and this is what it shows in xev
[06:47] <ninjai_> KeymapNotify event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
[06:47] <ninjai_>     keys:<PHONE_NUMBER> 0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[06:47] <ninjai_>            0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
[06:48] <chris4585> !pastebin
[06:48] <mawst> Anyone know anything about USB Internet from Sprint (over their cell network).
[06:48] <mawst> I have the "modem"
[06:50] <Guest78617> Does anyone here know where I can get more themes for lucid?
[06:50] <ninjai_> gnome-look.org
[06:52] <mawst> Anyone using the u304?
[06:52] <ninjai_> whats that
[06:52] <Guest78617> ninjai- when I go there what exactly am I looking for, like the GTK themes or what?
[06:52] <ninjai_> yes, gtk 2 themes
[06:54] <bullgard4> [GNOME] I forgot where I can set that menu items not only show a text but in addition a symbol. Was that somewhere in Nautilus?
[06:58] <Guest78617> What are the GDM themes?
[06:58] <chris4585> Guest78617, login themes
[06:58] <Guest78617> thank you chris
[06:59] <magopian> hi there guys
[06:59] <kuttans> hiii everybody, had a very bad experience in upgrading my karmic to lucid
[06:59] <magopian> since this morning, i can't log in to X
[07:00] <kuttans> but once again thx to linux and ubuntu to increase my creativity every time i do a dist upgrade
[07:00] <magopian> i have gdm, i can enter login/pass, but as it is going to log me in, it just takes me back to the login screen (login/pass are correct, i can log in using a tty, and i have no "bad login" message)
[07:00] <kuttans> well now some interesting questions are with me, anyone interested just join me
[07:00] <kuttans> i have a encrypted swap and due to plymouth not running the swap space is not mounted
[07:01] <Guest78617> what would I be looking for if I wanted to change the way the windows in linux themes?
[07:01] <dr3mro> please i can't export schemas from nautilus actions 2.30 i think its a bug and there is a new version of 2.30.1 but i cant find a deb file cny help using daily built of ubuntu lucid here updated to now !!!
 what you mean by windows?
 the theme of the windows can be changed by going to system->preferences -> appearance
[07:03] <kuttans> why plymouth is not running, and y bcoz of that my swap space is not mounted??
[07:04] <magopian> btw, is it "normal" that gdm runs on tty8 ?
[07:04] <magopian> it seems that gdm runs on tty8 and X on tty7
[07:05] <magopian> (but then, X doesn't seem to run properly in my case, it's just a black screen
[07:05] <magopian> (maybe that's why i can't login :(
[07:05] <kuttans> magopian : all x related problems are due to the plymouth
[07:06] <magopian> anyway, anyone has a clue?
[07:06] <magopian> plymouth?
[07:06] <magopian> never heard of it
[07:06] <magopian> it did work perfectly well yesterday (and this morning)
[07:06] <magopian> but then i restarted :(
[07:06] <mawst> Anyone know what I need to install to get the usbserial kernel module?
[07:06] <kuttans> try to remove the quiet in your boot line and check out -
[07:07] <kuttans> actually its the new splash theme ubuntu is incorporating in the lucid i guess, and beyond that im not well aware of
[07:08] <magopian> kuttans, remove the quiet in your boot line and check out what?
[07:08] <magopian> sorry i didn't understand that :(
[07:11] <bullgard4> http://www.gstreamer.net/data/doc/gstreamer/head/manual/html/section-checklist-debug.html: "You can set the GST_DEBUG_NO_COLOR environment variable to 1." In what file should I do that? [Ubuntu 10.04]
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Bullguard4: $HOME/.bashrc
[07:12] <Guest78617> but isnt there a way to get more theme for those windows?  Like how you could change the whole theme/look of the other distros of linux into like a Mac look, or a windows xp or vista or 7 look?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Bullguard4: export it like the other variables
[07:13] <magopian> man, the recovery mode in grub doesn't even work correctly: it boots, then black screen, and nothing else (can't even switch to a tty)
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Guest78617: there's a script called gnomexp which will make you OS look like XP. There's also mac4lin to make it look like a mac
[07:14] <st4aluck> help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: could reinstall grub from liveCD
[07:14] <Guest78617> do you know if there is a script that will make it look like windows 7?
[07:14] <magopian> ActionParsnip, i don't believe it's grub's fault
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: can you boot to recovery root console?
[07:15] <magopian> if i try booting in "normal" mode, it does work (well, i mean i have gdm and all, just i have my issue where i can't login to x, it keeps getting me back to gdm for some reason)
[07:15] <magopian> i don't even know how to start troubleshooting this issue :(
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: hold shift at boot, select your kernel but choose recovery, then select root
[07:16] <magopian> ActionParsnip, let me try that straight away
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: see if you can read logs and/or startx from there
[07:17] <magopian> so, let me understand
[07:17] <magopian> what is the use of holding shift? what should it do in grub?
[07:17] <magopian> i have grub at the very moment in front of my eyes (on my desktop computer)
[07:18] <Blue11> hmm in windows, that used to bypass the startup files...
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: select recovery mode for your kernel, then select root (like I said above)
[07:18] <magopian> and if i select the first entry (ubuntu, with linux 2.6.32-16-generic) it boots, and takes me to gdm (but then, i can't login to X, even though i can login to a tty)
[07:19] <magopian> if i select the second entry (ubuntu, with linux 2.6.32-16-generic (recovery mode)) then it just takes me to a black screen, and nothing happens (can't even switch to a tty)
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: after selecting recovery, what option are you selecting?
[07:19] <magopian> there's no option
[07:19] <magopian> should there be one?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Yes there will be a small menu
[07:20] <magopian> if i press shift?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> No, you hold shift at boot to make grub2 show its options
[07:20] <magopian> ah!!!
[07:20] <magopian> it worked (pressing shift) while i was shutting down
[07:21] <magopian> isn't that weird? it didn't when i was starting up Oo
[07:21] <magopian> so, "drop to root shell prompt" i guess ;)
[07:21] <magopian> what should i do from there?
[07:21] <Vigo> magopian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: try starting x as well as try reading logs in /var/log
[07:22] <magopian> ActionParsnip, which logs? i mean, i have checked gdm logs, and i have nothing strange appart a warning that seems unimportant (after searching on google) about /Etc/gdm/custom.conf not being there
[07:22] <dr3mro> any one help me to create a deb file for nautilus-actions 2.30.1
[07:22] <magopian> i xorg.log i have some messages aboug ddsig exiting
[07:24] <st4aluck> need help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Dr3mro: is there no ppa
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: ok go find what that means and it should give clues
[07:25] <magopian> ActionParsnip, the message i have in xorg.0.log when trying to login using gdm: ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log
[07:25] <dr3mro> ActionParsnip, can i build from source it says there is alot of dependency i dont have to ./configure
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Dr3mro: in google search for; ppa search ,the first result will allow you to search launcpad's ppas and you may find one ready compiled
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> Dr3mro: if you want to compile you will need to get the -dev packages of all the deps for the build so you can compile
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> St4aluck: i'd log a bug
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> St4aluck: make sure you have the toshiba acpi packages installed
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> !find tosh
[07:28] <magopian> ActionParsnip, is it possible to "stop and restart" x?
[07:28] <magopian> to start x i just type "startx", but to stop it?
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Magopian: you can kill the process I guess or use: sudo gdm stop
[07:30] <DanaG> hmm, here's a log of my boot....
[07:30] <magopian> ok that did the trick
[07:30] <DanaG> http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/amtterm.log
[07:30] <magopian> i then did a startx, and i have a few errors:
[07:30] <DanaG> plymouth is actively refusing to show splash.
[07:31] <magopian> (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "Microsoft Miscrosoft 2.4GHz Transceiver V2.0"
[07:31] <magopian> (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "Macintosh mouse button emulation"
[07:31] <magopian> and before that:
[07:32] <magopian> (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/nouveau_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/nouveau_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)
[07:32] <magopian> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[07:32] <magopian> and X is just a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left of the screen
[07:33] <DanaG> so yeah......... plymouth is a no-go for me.
[07:34] <slyrus_> ah, missed the lucid lynx channel...
[07:34] <msanchez> DanaG: are you having the same problem than me then? I got bug #561151 fixed, but plymouth is not working and whenever it boots I need to select "resume normal boot" in a curses interface that shows up
[07:36] <DanaG> nope, I haven't had such issues.
[07:36] <DanaG> er
[07:36] <DanaG> wait...
[07:36] <DanaG> anyway, my boot works fine... just never ever shows splash.
[07:37] <msanchez> ok thx... then it might be something else
[07:37] <msanchez> I'll look through launchpad to see whether I can find something like this
[07:37] <switchgirl> hi who decided to not include gnomes activity monitor by default?
[07:38] <switchgirl> its awesome and makes ubuntu better
[07:38] <switchgirl>  gnome activity journal*
[07:38] <msanchez> hmmm... maybe some issue with nvidia drivers? I'll check that out
[07:40] <billybigrigger> hmm
[07:40] <billybigrigger> 29639 root      20   0 26948 6032 2408 R  100  0.1   1588:11 backend
[07:40] <billybigrigger> that process look familiar to anyone?
[07:41] <billybigrigger> backend?
[07:41] <Blue11> somethings, you don't want to know
[07:42] <billybigrigger> root     29639 77.1  0.1  26948  6032 ?        Rs   Apr12 1589:53 /usr/bin/python /usr/share/checkbox/backend /tmp/checkboxgMHa5w/input
[07:42] <billybigrigger> very odd
[07:42] <billybigrigger> love the 100% cpu usage though
[07:43] <Vigo> My Network Manager Applet is corrupted on another user of this box, I make that account Admin and repair it, I feel that is a security thing, do I just sudo while on it? or Switch User?
[07:53] <votan> hey guys, is it ok that the updater shows me a lot of "Fail"s for translation-en-us ?
[07:55] <iconmefisto> billybigrigger: man backend
[08:00] <st4aluck> ubottu: My laptop is not very old and I think that laptop's BIOS only supports ACPI and not APM, shall I install toshutils
[08:14] <msanchez> same problem with nouveau
[08:38] <GutZuWiSSeN> hmm.. i cant browse the network in 10.04 .. are there any known bugs or workarounds?  (error cannot open network:///
[08:39] <almoxarife> GutZuWiSSeN: have samba installed?
[08:40] <GutZuWiSSeN> arrr .. it has been deinstalled?! ^^
[08:40] <GutZuWiSSeN> mom
[08:41] <almoxarife> GutZuWiSSeN: you will need samba, and insure you are not firewalled
[08:41] <ojii> hi everyeone
[08:41] <jussi01> !mac
[08:41] <jussi01> hrm
[08:41] <ojii> I try to install ubuntu (10.04 beta 2) on my macbook pro, but after I select "install ubuntu" from the live cd menu all i get is a black screen with a white cursor blinking in the top left corner. What am I doing wrong?
[08:41] <jussi01> ojii: hang  on a sec
[08:41] <ojii> ah
[08:41] <ojii> i ctrl-w failed again in xchat with multi screens :(
[08:41] <GutZuWiSSeN> almoxarife, yeah i have samba installed .. it worked fine in 9.10 .. but i get the error after the upgrade (like a friend of mine, too)
[08:41] <jussi01> ojii: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[08:42] <ojii> jussi01: i read everything i could find on help.ubuntu.com concerning macbooks which apply to my model
[08:42] <almoxarife> GutZuWiSSeN: what error?
[08:42] <jussi01> ojii: so you have refit installed etc?
[08:43] <ojii> jussi01: yes i have refit and made a second partition using DiskUtility
[08:43] <BUGabundo_remote> the tuggs say Hi
[08:43] <jussi01> ojii: which generation do you have?
[08:43] <ojii> jussi01: 5.2
[08:43]  * jussi01 has a 2.1 and it works fine.
[08:43] <ojii> or was it 5.1? lemme check quickly
[08:43] <jussi01> ojii: try the alternate installer
[08:43] <ojii> argh meaning i need to find another cd :(
[08:43] <ojii> silly mac that can't boot from usb
[08:44] <jussi01> ojii: i hear you...
[08:44] <ojii> ah it's a 5.1
[08:45] <ojii> jussi01: any idea how i can find out if my macbook supports x64?
[08:46] <jussi01> ojii: no, sorry. Ive no idea :/
[08:46] <ojii> okay
[08:46] <ojii> i'll just assume a core 2 duo is 64 bit
[08:46] <GutZuWiSSeN> The error is: Could not display "network:///".  Nautilus cannot handle "network" locations.   when i click on "network"
[08:46] <GutZuWiSSeN> any ideas?
[08:47] <EruditeHermit> hello, does anyone know how to get past the error http://pastebin.com/2kSwz5z4 when upgrading to lucid?
[08:47] <EruditeHermit> ojii, it should work on core 2 duo
[08:47] <ojii> thanks EruditeHermit
[08:48] <almoxarife> GutZuWiSSeN: I also had samba issues when I upgraded, mine resolved by completely removing samba and then re-installing
[08:49] <GutZuWiSSeN> almoxarife, hmm okay thx, ill try that
[08:49] <almoxarife> GutZuWiSSeN: and I mean -purge
[08:49] <GutZuWiSSeN> all right
[08:49] <ratte_> Acer Aspire One AOA-150 hot plug card readers not work in 10.04 any ideas for problem
[08:52] <st4aluck> need help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[08:53] <st4aluck> ~$ /usr/bin/check-bios-nx --verbose
[08:53] <st4aluck> This CPU has nx in the flags, so the BIOS is not disabling it.
[08:56] <st4aluck> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[08:58] <blue102> how to make icons on the desktop with lucid xubuntu
[09:01] <switchgirl> !rhythmbox
[09:01] <switchgirl> !gnome-bugs
[09:02] <chorse> Blue11: right click, create launcher.
[09:02] <switchgirl> !gnome
[09:02] <switchgirl> agh
[09:02] <switchgirl> i give up
[09:02] <switchgirl> what irc server do i use to annoy the dev's or rhthmbox?
[09:03] <chorse> switchgirl: irc.gnome.org, #rhythmbox
[09:04] <Guest32079> can i ask support questions for 10.4 here?
[09:04] <Votan> yes Guest32079
[09:04] <switchgirl> no. lmao course you can
[09:05] <switchgirl> !ask
[09:05] <Guest32079> thx
[09:05] <Votan> anyone here running beta2 on a samsung n220 ? I dont get the god damn screen brightness to work -.-
[09:06] <Guest32079> i've got a newer laptop HP dv6 w/ AMD/ATI chipset, the update manager keeps trying to install nvidia drivers on me
[09:06] <Guest32079> how can I stop that
[09:08] <Guest32079> any thoughts?
[09:10] <Guest32079> oh and does anyone know it remix will be coming out with a 10.4 update too?
[09:11] <Zelozelos> heres an interesting question, i was surfing around and came accross this site   http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/09/14/animated-wallpaper-with-compiz-fusion-on-ubuntu/
[09:11] <Zelozelos> will this still work???
[09:11] <iconmefisto> Guest32079: maybe try removing nvidia-current-modaliases
[09:11] <GutZuWiSSeN> yeah it works again
[09:11] <Zelozelos> b-cuz THAT would be really cool ?)
[09:12] <st4aluck> need help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[09:12] <GutZuWiSSeN> fyi: installing gvfs-backends and rebooting fixxed the network problem
[09:12] <Guest32079> thx icon
[09:13] <slyrus_> ok, got sound working ok with hdmi, i just wish I could get it to be a little louder...
[09:13] <Votan> BUGabundo_remote u gave me a link to the kernel team ppa the other day to get the .33 for trim support. DO u got that link somewhere ? i forgot to bookmark it and cant find a working ppa for newer kernels
[09:14] <Zelozelos> slyrus did you try clicking on the volume icon and click sound prefs, then you can go beyond 100%
[09:14] <Zelozelos> anyone know if xwinwrap still works?
[09:16] <[diablo]> good morning all
[09:16] <[diablo]> is anyone having issues with booting the latest release of the kernel on an Acer Aspire One D250 please?
[09:19] <almoxarife> [diablo]: that a wubi install?
[09:19] <[diablo]> hi almoxarife nope
[09:19] <st4aluck> Pls help me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[09:19] <[diablo]> almoxarife, it was done using desktop install
[09:19] <almoxarife> desktop?
[09:20] <almoxarife> [diablo]: explain desktop install
[09:21] <[diablo]> almoxarife, not the alternate, the desktop 386 iso
[09:21] <almoxarife> [diablo]: into a partion ?
[09:22] <maccam94> does anyone else have trouble with ksoftirqd eating the cpu after suspend/hibernate?
[09:23] <[diablo]> almoxarife, its a dual boot, but the issue is something acer specific
[09:25] <Votan> is anyone using LogFS with an SSD ?
[09:26] <st4aluck> Pls help me http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9039341#post9039341
[09:26] <ojii> is there something like wubi for mac?
[09:27] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: google ubuntu kernel team ppa
[09:27] <maccam94> ojii: bootcamp is probably the way to go
[09:27] <popey> ojii: there was a plan for MUBI
[09:27] <ojii> mubi would be great
[09:27] <popey> ojii: in fact there was a plan for LUBI too!
[09:27] <ojii> w00t
[09:27] <popey> dont think either was finished
[09:27] <BUGabundo_remote> st4aluck: we would appreciate if you stop repeating your question
[09:28] <ojii> popey: someone should (I wish I could)
[09:28] <Votan> BUGabundo_remote that's the one i found, but it is returning a 404 :/
[09:28] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: sec
[09:28] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MainlineBuilds
[09:29] <ojii> popey: actually lubi seems to exist (see http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lubi.html)
[09:29] <Votan> BUGabundo_remote i see, thx, was it you who said he uses LogFS or was that someone else ?
[09:30] <popey> ojii: not made by the wubi author, looks very different
[09:30] <popey> the wubi author (ago) had planned them
[09:30] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: not me
[09:30] <popey> but maybe he droped it, it was over a year ago at UDS I spoke to him about it
[09:30] <popey> maybe even 2 years
[09:31] <ojii> popey: i don't really care who did it, as long as it works :D
[09:32] <popey> :)
[09:34] <Zelozelos> OMG i simply must share this, some of you prob already know aobut it but... theres a prog called xwinwrap you can get it at   http://en.opensuse.org/Xwinwrap   stick it in your bin folder, then alt f2, type xwinwrap -ni -argb -fs -s -st -sp -nf -b -- /usr/lib/xscreensaver/glmatrix -window-id WID   and POW you now have the matrix screen saver running over your background, and you can change your background still! check it out man!!!
[09:36] <BUGabundo_remote> ahah ZOMG SO TRUE http://xkcd.com/727/
[09:37] <ojii> BUGabundo_remote: never heard anyone say 'backslash' in urls
[09:37] <BUGabundo_remote> oh I have
[09:37] <BUGabundo_remote> but read the tag note
[09:38] <BUGabundo_remote> mouse overlay
[09:38] <ojii> haha
[09:39] <st4aluck> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/553084
[09:42] <Zelozelos> hmm i wonder if i can get it to work on the panel instead of the background
[09:52] <Votan> so, I installed kernel .33 in 10.04 beta2 ... now theoretically it should do TRIM automatically, right? There's nothing else i have to add in lycid ?
[09:54] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: beats me! I'm counting on you to update us! you better email kernel team, or ask in their #
[09:54] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ you think you can help out on SSD TRIM ?
[09:55] <apw> yes .33 should have ATA TRIM and it should occur automatically if you are using a filesystem which supports trim
[10:00] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: ^^^^ there you go. thanks apw.
[10:00] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: will/was any of it be backported to lucid kernels ?
[10:00] <Votan> BUGabundo_remote apw atm i use ext4, it should support trim afaik. I thought about trying LogFS, but I do not trust .34 rc4 as rc3 had quite a few issues
[10:01] <apw> BUGabundo_remote, nope not backported currently, the patches are marginal size wise
[10:03] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: marginal as in, too big? or easy enough to port before feature freeze, and make the LTS have inicial support for TRIM ?
[10:03] <apw> feature freeze has long past
[10:05] <Votan> imho .33 should have been in for 10.04 as it is an LTS release and SSDs are definately coming
[10:07] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: well, not the opinion that counts :)
[10:08] <BUGabundo_remote> if you read a bit on it, many other distros will be using .32 for a long time window
[10:08] <BUGabundo_remote> making it wise for use to use it for a LTS
[10:08] <Votan> BUGabundo_remote yes but what'S the reason behind this ? What are the main concerns against .33 ?
[10:08] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: from what I've read in steve emails, *final* FF is tomorrow
[10:08] <apw> no FF == FINAL FREEZE
[10:09] <BUGabundo_remote> 33 is even, 32 is odd ! jk
[10:09] <apw> FF == FEATURE FREEZE is past
[10:09] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: ahh
[10:09] <BUGabundo_remote> darn short writting :)
[10:10] <apw> Votan, the reason is that this is an LTS, therefore we chose a more conservative kernel, one which most of the long-term supported releases are going with to gain economy of scale
[10:10] <apw> feature freeze was much earlier this cycle as a result
[10:10] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: is there any oficial docs (as in ubuntu-docs bug) to tell users that need TRIM support to use kernel team PPA kernels ?
[10:12] <apw> BUGabundo_remote, not that i know of no
[10:12] <apw> trim is a .33 feature, so we'd not expect to have it
[10:12] <BUGabundo_remote> but we have it in the .33+ kernels that are in kernel team ppa
[10:12] <apw> and frankly relying on a feature which is new in a release is risky in an LTS
[10:13] <BUGabundo_remote> so, if an user comes here (and in the future to #ubuntu and ubuntu forums) asking for support for the LTS, what should we say?
[10:13] <apw> BUGabundo_remote, those are totally unsupported diagnostic kernels so we don't recommend them
[10:13] <coz_> hey guys... out of curiosity... why is the indicator-applet icon an envelope???
[10:13] <BUGabundo_remote> No oficial support? install PPA?
[10:13] <BUGabundo_remote> ok apw. thanks
[10:13] <BUGabundo_remote> will act accordingly
[10:14] <apw> a tricky one, noone has formally asked for it that i know of, so we've not had to consider it
[10:14] <apw> i am sure someone will, and we'll have to consider it a
[10:14] <BUGabundo_remote> yofel: kklimonda, bjsnider, maco, FYI: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ on trim suppport
[10:14] <arand> coz_: First used for evolution and pidgin/empathy, meant for messages...
[10:14] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: to late now, I guess
[10:14] <apw> and decide if the risk is worth it
[10:14] <coz_> arand,  right  but that's the point no?  it visually represents  "mail"
[10:15] <apw> its might be something which could be sru'd if its not tooo invasive, but i've not looked
[10:15] <apw> in enough detail to know the risks
[10:15] <BUGabundo_remote> Votan: if you want, please file a bug requesting trim support and ping kernel team, and wait their decision on the subject, so we know how to act during LTS support
[10:16] <arand> coz_: um, yes... that's likely the point, um... what was your question actually?
[10:16] <BUGabundo_remote> thanks apw. if it comes up again, ill let you or some other kernel team know! I've seen at least 5 users in here asking for it, this two last weeks
[10:16] <apw> someone always wants more, thats the way of people
[10:16] <BUGabundo_remote> I'll be getting an SSD in the next few weeks, so I'm an interested party
[10:16] <BUGabundo_remote> but in two weeks, I'll be running 10.10 so.... I dont care that much
[10:16] <apw> i'll personally be pleased if the kernel works well on most peoples machines at release
[10:17] <coz_> arand,  well my point is that  the icon image itself is not really representative of  "indicator"  I was just curious  since ,,,as an artist... I find the choice somewhat abstract
[10:17] <BUGabundo_remote> apw: I don't doubt that
[10:17] <BUGabundo_remote> but a 3 year desktop and 5 why server kernel with no SSD trim support, seems kinda rash
[10:18] <arand> coz_: FOr the applications using it, I think it's rather appropriate, maybe the name isn't but that's the only thing...
[10:18] <coz_> arand,  ok :)  i disagree  but not trying to start an issue :)
[10:22] <ia> hello. could anyone tell me, please, how to play youtube html5 video in firefox (3.6) on ubuntu (lucid beta)? I will be very appreciate for any useful links about installing necessary codec packages and set up related settings. I guess, that somehow i should "tell" firefox, that video tag can contains not only theora/ogg video, but h264 - how in that case to tell firefox use not only ogg codecs, but h264 codecs (from gstreamer, for example) also?
[10:24] <Trewas> ia: firefox does not support any external codecs (yet?) and html5&h264 is not possible
[10:25] <Bittarman> firefox has no plans to support h264 while its not free either
[10:27] <navi> hi , I instaled ubuntu 10.4 and ati drivers, I can run ati control panel , but its impposible to run compiz
[10:27] <navi> any ideas how to fix it ?
[10:29] <navi> help?
[10:37] <h2o> morning everyone
[10:38] <h2o> could anyone explain me, if i can update my karmic koala to lucid beta ?
[10:38] <Votan> what does the vm.swappiness entry mean again ? 0 = no swapping ?
[10:39] <bazhang> h2o, sure you can, do you wish to do a fresh install when it is released, or upgrade an existing install
[10:39] <h2o> upgrade
[10:40] <h2o> i have karmic allready, all tunned up :)
[10:41] <bazhang> h2o, then read the upgrade link I sent you
[10:41] <navi> I want my compiz ... ;(
[10:42] <red> how do I search recursively in nautilus+
[10:42] <red> ?
[11:08] <vistakiller1> some package are break in last updates
[11:08] <vistakiller1> audacious
[11:08] <vistakiller1> plasma network manager for kde
[11:22] <h2o> ird party sources disabled
[11:22] <h2o> Some third party entries in your sources.list were disabled. You can re-enable them after the upgrade with the 'software-properties' tool or your package manager.
[11:22] <h2o> ??
[11:24] <bazhang> h2o, that is normal
[11:24] <LordMetroid> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.32-20-generic_2.6.32-20.29_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[11:24] <h2o> were is software properties ?
[12:06] <marienz> yay, I broke dpkg: dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting: syntax error: unknown group 'gnokii' in statoverride file
[12:06] <marienz> that's not supposed to happen, right?
[12:07] <marienz> ah, it's bug 537025
[12:11] <LordMetroid> Anyone else getting:
[12:11] <LordMetroid> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.32-20-generic_2.6.32-20.29_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:11] <LordMetroid> When trying to update?
[12:13] <om26er> LordMetroid, try changing your download mirror
[12:13] <LordMetroid> to what?
[12:13] <om26er> LordMetroid, another
[12:14] <om26er> LordMetroid, though choose a nearer location
[12:18] <Lazy> isn't this the most recent one? http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-2.6.32-20-generic_2.6.32-20.30_i386.deb
[12:35] <struts> Hi, after updating to Lucid, I can't use key combinations (like ä, é etc.) in Anki (built on Qt) regardless of whicht keyboard layout I'm using. Any idea?
[12:38] <Votan> erm, as there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst in 20.04, where can I add elevator=noop instead ?
[12:39] <Votan> 10.04*
[12:40] <coc0nut> /etc/default/grub maybe
[12:46] <Votan> coc0nut that works, but can i still put elevator=noop into that file when using grub2 or did the setting change syntax?
[12:47] <Votan> ah, nevermind, found the answer :)
[12:54] <Szatan> hello
[12:55] <om26er> my hardrive usage increases so much that the system starts lagging and eventually apps start hanging. how do I know which process is using my HD. cpu and ram usage are normal
[12:55] <hylman> I've installed 10.04 beta 1, but everytime it boots and performs disk check, the system just hang up @ 71%. have anyone experienced the same issue?
[12:56] <coc0nut> No, but it might be fixed in beta 2
[12:58] <hylman> well, i updated my system yesterday, so I believe this is already beta 2. And, i just get the same error again today
[12:58] <om26er> hylman, can you run recovery mode?
[12:59]  * om26er is facing a critical bug(well dont even know which package to blame)
[13:02] <hylman> no.. it won't let me do anything, except shutting down,i.e.: i pressed the power button and it shut down.
[13:02] <andatche> is it possible to make upstart show a traditional style output for init.d scripts when booting without quite and splash?
[13:03] <andatche> currently I get no output between the end of the kernel messages and getty starting
[13:03] <hylman> where can I see the error log?
[13:03] <andatche> I've tried with "--verbose" which spews a huge amount of information out, but nothing like the old "starting ......         [ OK ]" which I'd like
[13:07] <alvin> andatche: See bug 328881 and bug 548954
[13:07] <alvin> In my experience, removing quiet and splash isn't adequate. You don't see the plymouth messages every time an error occurs and your system halts
[13:08] <andatche> alvin: thanks, re 548954, I've tried adding "nosplash" and still get nothing
[13:15] <geekphreak> question : what was the shortcut for xkill?
[13:16] <om26er> alt+sysrq+k ?
[13:16] <geekphreak> which is sysrq?
[13:16] <bazhang> print screen
[13:17] <geekphreak> bazhang: nope that aint orking
[13:20] <hylman> anybody can help me? where can I see the boot log of the previous session?
[13:26] <BUGabundo_remote> this is calm today
[13:30]  * Crashbit bye!
[13:33] <josip> hello, I have just upgraded to lucid beta and there seem to be rpoblems with fglrx (can't get installed). Anyone familiar with this?
[13:33] <josip> it also broke apt-get http://pastebin.com/ePkeq1BE
[13:35] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:39] <josip> anyone with an idea?
[13:40] <geekphreak> /part
[13:41] <holstein> hey josip
[13:41] <josip> hey hey
[13:42] <holstein> is it one of these?
[13:42] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/546917
[13:42] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/552782
[13:42] <holstein> OH
[13:42] <holstein> the second one then
[13:43]  * holstein notices duplicate
[13:45] <josip> http://pastebin.com/ETwg6Tcz
[13:45] <josip> apt-get -f install
[13:47] <josip> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/559587
[13:47] <josip> doesn't seem to be solved
[13:48] <holstein> Bug #559587 seems to be a better fit
[13:48]  * holstein agrees
[13:48] <josip> :/
[13:49] <holstein> they'll get it :)
[13:59] <red> hmm
[13:59] <red> my numpad hasn't been working for past few days
[13:59] <red> any ideas what could cause it?
[14:00] <red> pressing zero on the numpad, wether num lock is on or off, starts some sort of "select" mode from cursors current position
[14:00] <Bittarman> red, probably orca got turned on
[14:00] <red> pressing five does the same thing for the duration 5 is held
[14:00] <red> how do I uninstall it? :p
[14:00] <Bittarman> system -> preferences -> assistive technologies
[14:00] <red> apt-get remove?
[14:00] <Bittarman> untick the enable button
[14:01] <Pici> red: press ctrl-shift-numlock and see if that fixes it
[14:01] <red> had pointer can be controlled from numpad on
[14:01] <red> now it works :)
[14:01] <red> whats the packages name?
[14:01] <red> wasn't orca - no need to load it up ever
[14:02] <red> i recall uninstalling it a few times from software manager but it keeps coming back with upgrades
[14:02] <red> so is there some way to mark it for no installation, ever?
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> !pin
[14:02] <Pici> red: Removing it isnt going to stop that numpad behavior, thats an xorg feature iirc.
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> Mouse moveing with numpad = Xorg feature. Correct
[14:03] <red> well enabling it must have come thru some keybinding from orca :)
[14:03] <red> atleast i guess so
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> I forget the keybinding that enables/disables it.
[14:04] <Pici> ctrl-shift-num is the xorg keybinding that enables it, I remember using it long ago before I had ever used ubuntu
[14:04] <red> aight
[14:04] <red> ty
[14:11] <RambJoe> do the ati drivers work yet?
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> ive heard peopel using them in here.. but no idea on what cards
[14:15] <RambJoe> ok thanks
[14:17] <TommyThaGun> if I don't have and ATI or Radeon card, is it okay to remove the packages: xserver-xorg-video-radeon and xserver-xorg-video-ati ?
[14:18] <TommyThaGun> and I guess the same question for nv
[14:18] <TommyThaGun> they came automatically installed, so I'm just wondering if there is something from them that is needed
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> I would leave stuff alone.
[14:19] <patdk-wk> TommyThaGun, no you don't need them, and could remove them
[14:19] <patdk-wk> but most of the time things just generically depend on them
[14:19] <patdk-wk> so it's not easy
[14:19] <TommyThaGun> oh, got ya
[14:19] <patdk-wk> and overall, having them only wastes disk space
[14:19] <patdk-wk> and if I remember correctly, <1meg
[14:20] <TommyThaGun> ok
[14:20] <TommyThaGun> so if its a depend thing then it's not worth it to try and remove them
[14:21] <patdk-wk> nope
[14:21] <patdk-wk> you can try to apt-get remove them
[14:21] <patdk-wk> and see what all it attempts to wipe out :)
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> ive seen too many systems trashed by people trying to remove stff they dident need..
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> are you that short of drive space?
[14:22] <TommyThaGun> no
[14:22] <TommyThaGun> I'm not too worried about trashing my system
[14:22] <TommyThaGun> in that, I don't think I will remove something that will trash it
[14:22] <patdk-wk> Dr_Willis, dunno, never had an issue with removing things, and I remove everything I don't need
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> try removeing plymouth right now. :)
[14:22] <patdk-wk> but then, if I trash it, I know how to fix it also
[14:23] <TommyThaGun> I just like things to be clean... sort of a case of disk space OCD
[14:23] <TommyThaGun> plymouth doesn't even work on my system for some reason
[14:23] <TommyThaGun> or it doesn't show
[14:23] <TommyThaGun> and then when Gnome loads, sometimes it gives me a crash that can't be reported
[14:23] <quiritius> what's which this message during boot "broken pipe could not write bytes"? anybody knows?
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> quiritius:  yes ive seen it..
[14:24] <TommyThaGun> quiritius, I get the same thing
[14:24] <thiebaude> i have seen it also quiritius
[14:24] <TommyThaGun> wait... no! I didn't get it this time I booted
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> no idea why, or what its about. it gets fixed.. then breaks again a update later.. then gets fixed again
[14:24] <TommyThaGun> oh
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> I got it when i rebooted earlier.. then i did a update got 200+mb of updates. :)
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> not tried it since then
[14:24] <alvin> I have, fd0 read error, and then grub rescue>
[14:25] <quiritius> it seems to vary from boot to boot. update or not...
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> You even have a floppy disk?
[14:25] <patdk-wk> actually, removing xorg-video-radeon is easy, and frees up 2megs :)
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> Now ya got room for.. a whole.. nother mp3!
[14:26] <patdk-wk> 1/4 of an mp3 :)
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> You are leet and 192+rates :)
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> or listen to Looooong songs.
[14:26] <patdk-wk> only do 320kbit
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> I ermber when 192 was 'high end' :)
[14:26] <patdk-wk> I only put it into mp3 format for *compatability*
[14:26] <patdk-wk> otherwise it's uncompressed :)
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> I rember when it took hours+ to rip a cd to mp3. :)  the Pent 100 days!
[14:27] <patdk-wk> I remember making mpegs in 24hours for 2hour movie
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> I wonder whatever happened to that one feature where the file manager whold show a audio cd as mp3's and wav's and flacs
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> I dont even recall if it was a KDE feature or a Gnome one.
[14:28] <alvin> ok, i disabled floppy support in the BIOS. Now grub doesn't find any disk.
[14:28] <alvin> It booted once, then I took a snapshot of a volume, and rebooted. No booting anymore. Can something be done in that 'grub rescue>' thing?
[14:29] <alvin> (Yes, there is a floppy disk.)
[14:30] <alvin> error: fd0 read error.
[14:30] <alvin> error: no such disk.
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> i recall some default grub option that can cause issues.
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. see if your /boot/grub/grub.cfg has lines like -->
[14:31] <Dr_Willis>  search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set e44da18d-9ed6-4fb8-9e1a-5c415af594d4
[14:32] <alvin> I can't get into that file. Holding shift at boot doesn't work either. These messages appear right after 'GRUB loading'. (mdamd RAID1 here)
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> I seem to recall someone else that had issues wth the --no-floppy   default options
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> raid? Hmm no idea on using raid.
[14:32] <alvin> It might even be related to the snapshot. I wanted to test if I could boot when there is a snapshots somewhere. My other computers have troubles with that.
[14:33] <lastelement0> hey everyone, i have 10.04 installed on my desktop fully updated. i can connect to the internet just fine, but when i try to download files, it will just stall. but i am still connected and able to use IM and browse the web. what could be the cause?
[14:33] <alvin> The boot issues of Lucid are pretty severe at this stage. I hope it gets sorted out before release and don't mind waiting for that.
[14:34] <TommyThaGun> I've booted fine from the beginning
[14:35] <TommyThaGun> actually, with the the latest kernel update, 5 seconds were shaved off of boot time and shutdown time
[14:35] <TommyThaGun> but, I know that's not the case with all systems
[14:35] <alvin> Well, I have to admit you have to use technologies like LVM (or NFS in karmic) in order to have issues. But the issues are sever for server users
[14:35] <TommyThaGun> oh
[14:35] <sealview> hi guys. I have a problem with Lucid, my display is making like an old TVBox when a program is not well tunned, is flickering, and shaking, does any one know anything about this?
[14:35] <alvin> Maybe it's a bit blunt, but I don't care about boot time. I care about being able to boot.
[14:37] <TommyThaGun> haha
[14:37] <TommyThaGun> right, I suppose I would too if I wasn't able to boot
[14:37] <TommyThaGun> sealview, does hitting the side of the screen fix it?
[14:37] <TommyThaGun> I used to do that to my TV and it worked fine
[14:38] <sealview> yeah,but that one didn't had LED tech in it, right?
[14:38] <TommyThaGun> no, it was definitely CRT
[14:39] <sealview> now really it's very frustrating, I can't do much this way
[14:39] <TommyThaGun> what sort of programs is it sealview ?
[14:39] <TommyThaGun> or is it doing it all the time?
[14:40] <LivenDie> Is everyone else having problems with Plymouth?
[14:40] <TommyThaGun> I m LivenDie
[14:40] <TommyThaGun> I still have yet to see this mysterious "Plymouth" I keep hearing about
[14:40] <sealview> after it boots and enters the X.org (I presume) or Plymouth it starts flickering and shaking all the time till shutdown
[14:41] <TommyThaGun> I can confirm that it exists, since I have received an error on it's behalf
[14:41] <TommyThaGun> but that's all LivenDie
[14:41] <LivenDie> Two weeks until release...I hope this is fixed
[14:41] <LivenDie> It works fine on initial install but when I install the Nvidia drivers, it breaks
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> Plymouth is like the biggest problem ;) ive seen in a long time
[14:42] <chuckf> I'm running into a network problem on beta2 with my dell mini9. Wireless doesn't seem to work at all and the wired network picks up an IP but cannot seem to get beyond the local network. Prior to this install it worked just fine.
[14:42] <TommyThaGun> maybe they're trying to keep Plymouth secret
[14:42] <sealview> gotta restart 'n' get back to see if there's any change
[14:43] <TommyThaGun> speaking of Plymouth, I just removed a bunch of junk from my system, so I need make sure it doesn't crash on reboot.
[14:43] <lastelement0> hey everyone, i have 10.04 installed on my desktop fully updated. i can connect to the internet just fine, but when i try to download files, it will just stall. but i am still connected and able to use IM and browse the web. what could be the cause?
[14:43] <TommyThaGun> is it in Firefox?
[14:43] <TommyThaGun> wait, sorry, gotta go
[14:44] <sealview> no change with the latest updates
[14:46] <thiebaude> bug 552316
[14:47] <TommyThaGun> I had broken pipes that time
[14:48] <alvin> unknown command 'boot' (... long live the grub2 beta rescue documentation)
[14:49] <sealview> this is crazy
[14:49] <sealview> the flickering and shaking has slowed down
[14:50] <sealview> TommyThaGun: I think you're right about kicking the screen
[14:50] <sealview> the screen got scared :)
[14:54]  * alvin is off to the noc to reinstall
[14:54] <TommyThaGun> http://j.imagehost.org/0799/Screenshot_5.png    <------ Plymouth
[14:54] <TommyThaGun> that's all I've seen of it this far
[14:56] <TommyThaGun> sorry sealview, I don't know too much about troubleshooting video issues. All I can suggest is to apt-get update, clean, and then reinstall the drivers
[14:57] <LivenDie> TommyThaGun, yea, I've seen a lot of that too
[14:57] <sealview> TommyThaGun: Thanks anyway
[14:58] <Dimmuxx> that crash happens on one of my computers too
[14:58] <Dimmuxx> I usually don't see plymouth at all on it anyways
[14:59] <TommyThaGun> giganto bug report for plymouth: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/553745
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> Yea i see the whole obsession with Plymouth a litle weird.. when my system boots so fast  i barely have time to get soda and sit down
[15:00] <Dimmuxx> yeah it should just be dropped imho
[15:00] <TommyThaGun> yeah, I'm with you Dr_Willis
[15:01] <TommyThaGun> although, I think this latest update slowed it down a bit
[15:01] <Dimmuxx> I always see it on my netbook but it experience the fsck lock
[15:01] <alvin> I started to get that 'MS Windows admin' feeling and decided against reinstall. Used the rescue on the install disk to remove the snapshot. Now, boot gets further.
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> yea  - at least the fsck screen now looks nicer. :)
[15:01] <abuayyoub>  Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me. I just installed lucid a couple days ago and I seem to be having a problem with audio threw HDMI. not sure what the problem is, video works perfect but no sound at all over HDMI
[15:01] <alvin> You are lucky. I'm still trying to get it to boot.
[15:02] <Strife89> What file contains the listing for grub? I wish to edit the name of an entry.
[15:02] <Strife89> Windows Vista somehow got listed as "Windows Recovery Console."
[15:02]  * Strife89 just installed Lucid beta 2, mainly for testing.
[15:03] <TommyThaGun> Urgent Recall of PowerStrips and Extension Cords: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10184.html
[15:03] <rye> could somebody please visit http://wiki.openvz.org/Download/template/precreated and check whether you have all glyphs in the list properly rendered. It looks like some font problem to me
[15:04] <kklimonda> looks fine here
[15:04] <rye> hm... Terminus font breaks here...
[15:04] <rye> kklimonda, do you have Terminus installed?
[15:04] <abuayyoub> looks good to me
[15:05] <abuayyoub> Anyone else have this HDMI problem ?
[15:05] <abuayyoub> with Lucid?
[15:05] <alvin>  /facepalm The graphical stuff was taken out on ubuntu-server (hurray!), but when plymouth now says ([Something] went wrong... press S to skip, etc...) you now do not see a) what went wrong b) what your options are.
[15:05] <kklimonda> rye: surprisingly not :)
[15:07] <rye> alvin, we have an intel board with integrated video as a server, upon boot framebuffer switch scares the video board and _nothing_ is displayed...
[15:08] <abuayyoub> Hello, I was wondering if someone could help me. I just installed lucid a couple days ago and I seem to be having a problem with audio threw HDMI. not sure what the problem is, video works perfect but no sound at all over HDMI
[15:10] <alvin> Whoa, sounds scary
[15:10] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  and whats the video card/chipset?
[15:11] <gnomefreak> YAY! i lost X :)
[15:11] <underdev> hi, does anyone else have problems with notifications in lucid
[15:11] <underdev> ?
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> underdev:  not really - i see them all the time
[15:11] <underdev> rat
[15:11] <underdev> rats
[15:11]  * gnomefreak wouldnt know
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> I just did a update.  so it may be a new issue
[15:11] <alvin> Well, my suspicion is confirmed. I pressed 'M' when plymouth halted for a long time without giving an error, then typed 'mount -a' to mount the not-detected drives. Then I rebooted and everything went fine. A few reboots later, everything was still fine. Then I decided to be bold and create another snapshot. Bamf, again the grub rescue shell.
[15:11] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis I'm not sure. Is there a way to check which one I have?
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  check lspci output
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> abuayyoub:  check the pc's manual ? :)
[15:12] <underdev> Dr_Willis: did you have to configure anything special to get notifications to work?
[15:12] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis lol you're supposed to read those things?> lol
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> underdev:  nope. I see notifications from weechat, and firefox, and other thingsd all the time
[15:13] <underdev> Dr_Willis: oic- do you use the social apps that come with 10.04?  like qwibber and empathy?
[15:14] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis http://pastebin.com/qbBckLWF
[15:14] <sealview> Strangest thing, as I said my screen is flickering and shaking like the display freqvency is mised configured, but is doing the same if I hit Ctrl + Alt + F1, what is wrrong here?
[15:14] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis looks like ATI Radeon
[15:15] <sealview> I also have ATI Mobility radeon on my notebook
[15:16] <abuayyoub> sealview, I;m using a Sony Vaio, do you have problems with HDMI audio as well?
[15:16] <gnomefreak> isnt ATI still broke?
[15:16] <underdev> i'm good on ati
[15:16] <underdev> integrated sound + video
[15:16] <sealview> abuayyoub: no, right now I'm listening a radio station
[15:16] <underdev> running compiz like a chap
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> HDMI integerated is often a issue with many cards/xd it seems
[15:17] <underdev> or a champ, even
[15:17] <abuayyoub> strange
[15:17] <abuayyoub> man this really sucks. lol I dont wanna give up my 32"
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> run some normal audio cables.
[15:18] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis: My laptop dosent really have any ports to support that.
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> it dosent have Headhpone outs?
[15:18] <abuayyoub> yea, it has headphone out.
[15:19] <abuayyoub> but that wouldnt work with my TV
[15:20] <sealview> I give up! I'll do a fresh install of 9.10
[15:21] <underdev> quitter :)
[15:21] <sealview> don't like it, but have no clue how to trobleshoot this issue
[15:21] <underdev> yeah, i understand
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. My tv's all have audio ins....
[15:21] <underdev> 9.10 is solid as a rock
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> The point of a beta test is to find  and report bugs..
[15:22] <underdev> rt
[15:22] <gnomefreak> start by filing a bug and/or look in ubuntuforums if no one here can help
[15:22] <alvin> No, it certainly isn't.
[15:22] <sealview> and it si anoing to not see well what you are "Desktoping"
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> I would not be suprised if this gets delayed a few days or more.  But we will see.
[15:22] <alvin> I'm hoping lucid will fix some of the critical issues karmic has
[15:23] <abuayyoub> Dr_Willis: you have not come across this problem before?  Then again I always seem to find some tiny unresolvable glitch when I use Linux. :(
[15:24] <underdev> unlike windows, which runs like a dream ;/
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> I have heard of a great many peoople that have issues with HDMI audio out.  I think the nvidia chipset has similer issues with specific  driver/cards
[15:24]  * Dr_Willis watches his windows drive defrag for 2 days....
[15:25] <genii> Luckily mine works OK
[15:25] <underdev> or a nightmare.. you know.. that's a dream too
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> bye all.. bbl
[15:27] <sealview> Karmik since Alpha3 was working great on my notebook compared with Lucid
[15:29] <sealview> I also need to work with Quickshot for Ubuntu-Manual but is impossible, so I will install a VM on 9.10 an use it from there
[15:29] <ubuntujenkins> sealview: quickshot will only work on lucid
[15:30] <sealview> yes, i know, but I'll install it on a virtual machine
[15:30] <ubuntujenkins> sealview: you need to be able to set the virtual machine to 1024x768, btw
[15:31] <sealview> ubuntujenkins: I have a lot of space left
[15:31] <z0rt> did someone just say windows runs like a dream!?
[15:32] <abuayyoub> z0rt lol
[15:32] <ubuntujenkins> sealview: fair enough
[15:33] <abuayyoub> I have to admit tho, Windows 7 is ALMOST decent
[15:33] <coc0nut> Nah, it's good.
[15:33] <abuayyoub> at least it was for the first 2 months I had it now it's nearly unresponsive.
[15:33] <abuayyoub> I do love the superbar tho
[15:33] <coc0nut> Apart from it being disgusting proprietary software, it's a very nice operating system.
[15:34] <abuayyoub> I agree. What happened? Microsoft actually started putting out decent things over the last year or two.
[15:34] <TommyThaGun> I'm interested to see the courier
[15:34] <z0rt> they did!?!?!?!
[15:34] <coc0nut> They started listening to people because they realised their profits weren't as monumental as before.
[15:35] <TommyThaGun> haven't you seen the commercials? those girls told them what to do.
[15:35] <abuayyoub> im dreaming about the Courier ipad can eat one.
[15:36] <coc0nut> No, I'm not in the US and I don't watch TV anyway. ^^
[15:36] <z0rt> is a courier an ipad not made by apple running some flavour of linux?
[15:37] <abuayyoub> Z0rt It's a duel screen "book" made by M$ and it looks amazing
[15:37] <Pici> !ot
[15:38] <z0rt> so it's an oversized ds lite running windows? can you root it?
[15:38] <coc0nut> Pici: When people start asking for help, I'm sure others will oblige.
[15:38] <abuayyoub> z0rt: haha yea thats basically it. lol
[15:39] <z0rt> this thing looks pretty
[15:40] <abuayyoub> z0rt: yea, the concept video is dreamy
[15:40] <z0rt> i'm watching that now
[15:40] <Pici> We'd prefer if people stayed on-topic in our channels, thats why we separate them.
[15:40] <abuayyoub> if they manage to release something half as cool I will be duly impressed.
[15:40] <z0rt> soz m8
[15:41] <abuayyoub> pici sorry,
[15:41] <Pici> Feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic and talk about this there :)
[15:41] <coc0nut> >_>
[15:41] <abuayyoub> Pici: Can you help me with an audio over HDMI problem?
[15:41] <abuayyoub> no audio over hdmi running lucid
[15:41] <abuayyoub> big pain
[15:41] <coc0nut> Is there a bug on Launchpad?
[15:42] <Pici> abuayyoub: I haven't updated to lucid on the one computer that I do audio over hdmi on :/
[15:43] <abuayyoub> -bummer
[15:43] <coc0nut> What version is that one computer running?
[15:43] <Pici> Karmic, I'm using the fglrx driver.
[15:44] <coc0nut> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1230385
[15:44] <coc0nut> In terms of seeing native support in Ubuntu, the HDMI audio patches are expected to be pulled into the 2.6.34 kernel, so you won't see working HDMI audio in Lucid/10.04 unless you run a backported 2.6.34 kernel with it (Ubuntu plans to offer backported kernels for Lucid).
[15:44] <abuayyoub> I have another problem. Is there a way to install Flash on AMD64?
[15:44] <coc0nut> abuayyoub: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer
[15:45] <abuayyoub> coc0nut you're awesome thank you
[15:45] <coc0nut> No problem at all.
[15:45] <h00k> abuayyoub: another method is to look for it in the Ubuntu Software Center
[15:45] <coc0nut> Oh yeah, that too.
[15:45] <coc0nut> Used to using the command line here. =/
[15:46] <h00k> coc0nut: me too
[15:46] <z0rt|work> me three
[15:46] <abuayyoub> h00k: yea I looked ther and it crashed every time
[15:47] <abuayyoub> then i got an error message saying Adobe didnt support amd64 :O
[15:47] <coc0nut> If you're looking for something and can't use Ubuntu Software Centre, try Synaptic
[15:47] <coc0nut> if that doesn't work, you can use: aptitude search
[15:49] <aphid_> I'm running 10.4b2 Netbook Remix on a Thinkpad X40.  One of the updates between  alpha 3 and beta 2 has killed the performance of the default "3d" launcher.  it's really slow and laggy just in the launcher.
[15:49] <Urda> Redirected from #ubuntu ... In YOH is 10.04 pretty stable to upgrade to now from 9.10 for a heavy user
[15:49] <coc0nut> Urda: It really depends
[15:49] <coc0nut> Some people find it unstable, others don't
[15:49] <coc0nut> For me, it's perfectly stable, but it's different for everyone =/
[15:49] <Urda> coc0nut: and I assume it is a one shot deal, once your up your up
[15:50] <coc0nut> I guess so
[15:50] <coc0nut> although I haven't upgraded, just installed fresh
[15:50] <coc0nut> The only Ubuntu upgrade I ever did was from Dapper to Edgy and that destroyed everything, so I said never again ;)
[15:51] <Urda> coc0nut: do you have a lot of packages installed?
[15:51] <coc0nut> On Lucid?
[15:51] <alvin> Urda: It depends on what software you are using. I'm currently testing what happens if you use lvm and it's a disaster. For most desktop users, I'd say that it is useable.
[15:52] <alvin> Of course, I'm using lvm on a desktop...
[15:52] <z0rt|work> lucid netbook remix is working quite well on my aspire one
[15:52] <coc0nut> Is your CPU fan working?
[15:53] <Urda> alvin: I'm dual booting Win 7 pro and Ubuntu 9.10 x64 through GRBU2
[15:53] <z0rt|work> sure is
[15:53] <coc0nut> ;;
[15:54] <alvin> The only issues I have with grub2 (beta) is that it doesn't find my root device from time to time until I reboot a few times. Let's not forget that grub2 is still in beta and not ready for production yet.
[15:54] <coc0nut> Isn't grub2 installed by default now?
[15:56] <alvin> It is, but I quote the developers: "GRUB 2 is the next generation of GNU GRUB. GRUB 2 is a complete rewrite and is at a developmental phase"
[15:56] <alvin> Notice the "developmental phase"
[15:56] <albertito> Hi! I've upgraded to lucid and hit a very annoying X-crashing bug (560899), which I reported, but has got no feedback. I tried to provide all the information I thought relevant. Is there anything I can do to get someone to look at it? I don't mind testing patches or things of the sort, but unfortunately starting to debug this from scratch would take me a huge amount of time
[15:56] <z0rt|work> grub2 is super awesome and will change the world
[15:56] <alvin> One day, yes. Right now, it doesn't find my root enough
[15:56] <z0rt|work> :[
[15:57] <Urda> alvin: Hmmm, I loved grub 2 when booting up :) Has handled my Windows 7 Pro x64 and Ubuntu 9.10 x64 just fine. I had Windows installed first, resized my drive, and installed 9.10 last November
[15:57] <Urda> I love*
[15:57] <ZykoticK9> bug #560899
[15:58] <coc0nut> albertito: I submitted a pretty severe bug report for a package last week and nobody has had a look at it yet. I don't think there's any way to speed up the process
[15:58] <alvin> grub-legacy could do that already. I'm just worried about bug 360378. I'm not sure if it still is in Lucid, but all my Lucid installs are very unstable because of lvm.
[16:00] <albertito> coc0nut: I don't mind if the maintainers have other things to do. I just don't want it to be my fault, that is, I prefer to send all the information they may need so they have it available when they have time to take a look at it. However, my main problem is that I don't know what that would be :S
[16:00] <alvin> bug 560899, right?
[16:00] <albertito> alvin: yes, that's the one
[16:02] <alvin> nothing in /var/log/kern.log ?
[16:02] <albertito> alvin: dmesg showed nothing, no
[16:02] <albertito> alvin: well, nothing suspicious or unusual, that is
[16:03] <alvin> Hmm, a user in my network here has seen kubuntu (kdm) crash yesterday in karmic. Just went back to kdm. There was, however, a segfault at the end of dmesg.
[16:03] <CT1> Hi. I have a wedding dvd I want to convert to avi/xvid/divx (and possibly edit)  Could someone point me to a howto or let me know what packages I need (with GUI utils preferably).  Please excuse me if #ubuntu+1 is not the right place to ask and let me know where I should look/ask
[16:04] <alvin> But you installed the debugging packages. Let's wait and see. Did you also enable apport in /etc/default/apport?
[16:04] <alvin> If you did, there might be some files in /var/crash
[16:05] <kklimonda> does 10.04 support upstream nvidia installer yet?
[16:06] <ZykoticK9> bjsnider, ^^^ if you're around can you answer above?
[16:06] <albertito> alvin: well, there's a problem with the symbols, as I mentioned in the last comment (also reported it, bug 562418). I didn't do anything about apport by hand, but service apport status reports it as "start/running", although /var/crash is empty
[16:07] <alvin> ouch
[16:07] <z0rt|work> :O
[16:13] <scott_ino2> anybody in here use transcode/dvdrip? Need people to follow up on a bug and report that it affects you too.
[16:13] <m0ar> I want help changing my splash (plymouth) theme, anyone?
[16:14] <CT1> scott_ino2: Did you see my previous chat? If so, are those packages what I need?
[16:14] <iconmefisto> m0ar: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[16:14] <iconmefisto> m0ar: then sudo update-initramfs -u
[16:14] <scott_ino2> CT1, ha well umm... perhaps i can help you
[16:15] <m0ar> iconmefisto: Where do I set the theme of preference then?
[16:15] <scott_ino2> CT1, what format is the original video?
[16:15] <iconmefisto> m0ar: the first command will let you choose from a list
[16:15] <CT1> scott_ino2: It's a dvd from the wedding photographer(plays in my dvd player, has vobs etc)
[16:15] <m0ar> iconmefisto: It says it has only one active link
[16:16] <iconmefisto> m0ar: have you installed any other themes?
[16:16] <scott_ino2> CT1, install k9copy, it can easily transcode to xvid,mkv h264 etc... using mencoder or ffmpeg
[16:16] <iconmefisto> m0ar: apt-cache search plymouth-theme
[16:16] <m0ar> iconmefisto: I've got this space-solar theme, which contains two .ogv files
[16:17] <scott_ino2> CT1, dvdrip has a little more control, however it uses transcode and there are issues witht he newest transcode package on 64 bit
[16:17] <iconmefisto> m0ar: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth   should give you a list of installed themes, and allows you to choose one
[16:17] <RambJoe> anyone on beta 2?
[16:17] <m0ar> iconmefisto: So, where should I put those files if I might want to use them? :)
[16:18] <RambJoe> is it worth upgrading to over beta 1
[16:19] <iconmefisto> m0ar: don't know. where did you get that theme?
[16:19] <m0ar> http://gitorious.org/oskude-plymouth-themes/space-sunrise
[16:19] <m0ar> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/look-at-ubuntu-lucid-plymouth-themes.html
[16:19] <arand> RambJoe: beta versions are not separate, if you have lucid you have whatever the current version is.
[16:19] <m0ar> iconmefisto: Oops, last one is wrong
[16:20] <RambJoe> ohh
[16:20] <m0ar> iconmefisto: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/ubuntu-lucid-plymouth-theme-idea-space.html
[16:20] <m0ar> there it is
[16:20] <RambJoe> does it auto update then
[16:20] <Pici> RambJoe: Assuming that you've been update/upgrading, of course.
[16:20] <arand> RambJoe: Provided you have applied updates normally.
[16:20] <Pici> !final
[16:20] <RambJoe> thanks :)
[16:20] <RambJoe> yeah the message icon in the rop right turning green is s new feature right?
[16:21] <m0ar> iconmefisto: I was wondering, if it's just an idea or if you actually can use .ogv files as bootsplash
[16:22] <iconmefisto> m0ar: those are videos showing what the animation looks like
[16:22] <topyli> hrm. upgrading epiphany still wants to remove epiphany-extension, which i'm not very keen to do :(
[16:22] <RambJoe> so when the final is released do i need to reinstall?
[16:22] <m0ar> iconmefisto: So you can't use .ogv's as splashes?  Dammit, since it's looks hot
[16:23] <arand> RambJoe: Not unless you want to, or that it has messed up in some way along the route
[16:24] <iconmefisto> m0ar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9118417#post9118417
[16:24] <RambJoe> ok thanks
[16:27] <z0rt|work> 200MB of updates since this morning, i love it! :)
[16:29] <dupondje> My system booted today and did an fsck, but it stopped @ 78% and did nothing anymore, had to reboot
[16:31] <avis> crimsun, might you be working on some alsa modules for the newer kernels ?
[16:31] <avis> just wondering.  no pressure
[16:34] <Volkodav> do you think I can pair these over bluetooth with mu ubuntu box ?  http://www.bluetechguy.com/proddetail.php?prod=B250XT&gclid=CPCIpIqQ7Z0CFcNx5Qod3SHsKg1
[16:43] <m0ar> iconmefisto: Oh, thanks a bunch
[17:06] <nerdy_kid> my virtual terminals are crooked
[17:06] <nerdy_kid> i can see the login text at the bottom right corner of my screen....
[17:06] <nerdy_kid> using NVIDIA 8600M with latest drivers (from nvidia)
[17:06] <jameswf> Anyone seen an issue with routing to <IP_ADDRESS>/16 addresses... I had to add a route as it was not in my routing table
[17:14] <nerdy_kid_> i got it fixed by adding "vga=0x314" to my kernel boot params :)
[17:14] <yofel> vga=... is deprecated in grub2
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> Yep. Check the /etc/default/grub file I think - it shows how to change the default res
[17:16] <yofel> not quite, it has instructions for GFXMODE, but that only sets the grub menu resolution, for the framebuffer you need to set 'GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX' as explained on the grub2 wiki page
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> i normally want to disable framebuffer on my consoles. :)
[17:19] <avis> anyway to enable kernel output in lieu of any splash ?
[17:20] <iconmefisto> avis: remove "splash" from kernel line in grub
[17:20] <avis> could you point to the file for me ?
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> i always edit it to be 'nosplash' :) but i think that has the same affect.
[17:20] <avis> i dont do much grub editing
[17:21] <Dr_Willis>  edit the /etc/default/grub file I think for the default options
[17:21] <avis> thank you
[17:21] <iconmefisto> avis: and after that, sudo update-grub
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> see the !grub2 docs for more info.
[17:22] <avis> while i'm on the same topic, any way to make grub menu visible instead of holding shift ?
[17:22] <iconmefisto> avis: same file
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> see the !grub2 docs for more info.
[17:22] <Guest61577> does anyone know how to install new system sounds in lucid?
[17:22] <avis> !grub2
[17:22] <iconmefisto> avis: just remember sudo update-grub after editing it
[17:22] <avis> thanks
[17:24] <LivenDie>  is anyone else having problems using the restricted nvidia drivers in Lucid?
[17:24] <agronholm> not me
[17:25] <avis> will envyng-gtk be brought into the repo at some point ?
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> LivenDie:  not that ive seen. I updated yesterday, itw working.. updated today.. not rebooted yet.
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> rebooting other nvidia box now.
[17:26] <LivenDie> I'm going to try it again.  It was just showing all 3 versions as active in the hardware drivers app
[17:26] <LivenDie> ill reboot and be back
[17:26] <bbordwell> avis, feature freeze was back in February so no not for lucid
[17:26] <avis> wiki.ubuntu.com wont resolve for me, and i've tried many times
[17:26] <avis> thanks bbordwell
[17:26] <Pici> avis: Its having issues today.
[17:27] <avis> i'll figure it out some other day
[17:27] <Guest61577> I am wondering how to install new sounds for my lucid
[17:27] <bbordwell> avis, When they start development on Maverick file a packaging request bug on launchpad for the program you want packaged
[17:27] <avis> i'm sure if i wont somebody else will
[17:28] <bbordwell> Guest61577, new sounds? like the login sound?
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> weird. my default window manager for this user.. is not getting rembered. :)
[17:29] <Guest61577> yes I downloaded a pack of sounds from gnome-look.org, but there are no instructions on how to install them
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> updated rebooted.. nvidia drivers working on my Nvidia 5500 box.
[17:29] <bbordwell> Guest61577, give me a minute i will give it a look
[17:29] <Guest61577> okay thank you
[17:30] <cleifer> anybody know how i can go back from the 2.6.5 python that comes with lucid to 2.6.2 ?
[17:30] <Guest61577> here is the link of the specific sound pack that I am talking about http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=44126
[17:31] <bbordwell> Guest61577, okay i think i figured it out.
[17:31] <Guest61577> ok
[17:31] <bbordwell> Guest61577, the thing you downloaded is a .tar right?
[17:32] <Guest61577> its a .tar.gz
[17:32] <LivenDie> well...that didn't work.  It was working before when I installed the drivers off of nvidia's site but the hardware drivers supplied by Ubuntu don't work.
[17:32] <Guest61577> when you open it, its another file, and then within that other file is a bunch of .mp3 s
[17:32] <bbordwell> Guest61577, okay open a terminal and type this comand "gksu nautilus"
[17:33] <Darkaura> I can boot up the Live cd of Lucid Lynx beta 2, but when I install and reset it freezes at the ubuntu splash screen. I've tried looking it up but I have'nt been able to find anything. Are there any ideas on what I could do to fix it?
[17:33] <avis> for some reason i get no splash removing that, but no text output either.  and the grub2 ubuntu wiki is down
[17:33] <om26er> I have been facing a problem for 7days and now I have found that its compiz. but now its too late so Lucid with compiz for me?
[17:33] <Guest61577> okay done
[17:33] <NinoScript> I want to mount a partition but changing the uid/gid, I know my filesystem supports uid=n gid=n in mount, I just don't know how to put those options :(  ———  mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/mac  <— where do I put those options? the file system is HFS+ (hfsplus)
[17:34] <bbordwell> Guest61577, okay cut and paste the extracted tar into /usr/share/sounds
[17:34]  * om26er thinks compiz is moving him to mutter sooner than he thought.
[17:35] <Pici> om26er: It depends what the compiz issue is
[17:35] <Oxymoron> Does somebody know if there is any server or PHP "support" talking channel anywhere on freenode? :)
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> http://linux.about.com/od/commands/a/blcmdl8_mountx.htm
[17:36] <avis> Oxymoron, probably, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:36] <Oxymoron> I want to ask regarding a bug with newline character in PHP 5.3.2
[17:36] <avis> xchat also has a list filter
[17:36] <Guest61577> the sounds in the /usr/share/sounds end in ogg though is that going to matter?
[17:36] <om26er> after a usage of 40-50 minutes my harddrive light becomes mad so I have to kill X and then login again. This happens once in an hour
[17:36] <Dr_Willis>  -o (or was it -O) option1, option2, iption3
[17:36] <CT1> Very happy with the quality of ubuntu and the community support.  One thing though.  I wan't to drag-n-drop with right ("wrong") click and have an option to move/copy etc...  is there a wish-list? Is ubuntu the place to ask for this feature? is it a gnome "limitation" or is it nautilus?
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> CT1:  for gnome? use the alt, shift, and ctrl keys as you drag/drop
[17:37] <bbordwell> Guest61577, should not as long as you have the codecs installed to play mp3 fiels
[17:37] <bbordwell> files
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> CT1:  check the gnome docs/help guides for other not so obvious features. and the new ubuntu manual for 10.04
[17:37] <CT1> Dr_Willis: Wow. As I said, great community support! Just what I wanted.  Many thanks
[17:38] <Guest61577> i have codecs but then how do I make my system play those sounds instead of the ubuntu sounds?
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> CT1:   i discovered that one day while skimming the gnome docs. :)  (yes i was bored)
[17:38] <struts> While trying to fix dead keys not working, I screwed up (not sure how). Is it possible to restore all keyboard conf files to their state just after a fresh install?
[17:38] <Darkaura> I can boot up the Live cd of Lucid Lynx beta 2, but when I install and reset it freezes at the ubuntu splash screen. I've tried looking it up but I have'nt been able to find anything. Are there any ideas on what I could do to fix it?
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> struts:  proberly can. but it would depend on what files you altereed
[17:39] <cleifer> anybody able to help me go from the default 2.6.5 python in lucid to 2.6.2 from karmic ?
[17:39] <bbordwell> Guest61577, okay now go to system>preferences>sound
[17:39] <bbordwell> Guest61577, then select your new sound theme
[17:39]  * om26er tried xorg edgers
[17:40] <struts> Dr_Willis: That would be a good question. I have a feeling "sudo im-switch -s default" did some damage.
[17:40] <Guest61577> under the sound theme I only have ubuntu and then no sounds
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> struts:  ive never used that command. so no idea
[17:40] <bbordwell> Guest61577, hmm it worked for me when i just did it. can you give me the link to the theme you downloaded
[17:41] <struts> Dr_Willis: Nevertheless, restoring conf files is not the important thing; I need a fresh start -- but don't want to reformat.
[17:41] <Guest61577> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=44126
[17:41] <claptrap> So, searching for certain words on any search engine in any browser crashes that browser: The words so far are "weather", "clock" and one other one that I don't remember just now.
[17:43] <bbordwell> Guest61577, the one i downloaded had a file called index.theme I think that you need that
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> claptrap:  exactly how are you searching? going to google.com? or useing the searh box in the browser top right?
[17:43] <claptrap> claptrap: Both, and many, many more.
[17:43] <Guest61577> so then the one that I donwloaded wont work then?  I need to find one that says index.theme?
[17:43] <claptrap> Dr_Willis: Both, and many, many more.
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> claptrap:  i cant repeate the problem here.
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> claptrap:  make a nes user. see if it affects them
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> a New user :0
[17:45] <claptrap> Dr_Willis: Guess I can try that a bit later on. Can't log out just now, though.
[17:45] <bbordwell> Guest61577, you need to find one that has a file called index.theme or something similar. I am sure you can make that theme work but I do not know how right now, I will look and see though
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> It would be very weird if it affects several different browsers
[17:45] <Guest61577> okay thank you
[17:45] <claptrap> Dr_Willis: It does affect different browsers.
[17:46] <claptrap> Dr_Willis: So far it affects Firefox, Chrome, Opera and Seamonkey.
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> I would be tempted to say test a live cd.. and see if it  there
[17:46] <bbordwell> Guest61577, I am not seeing a way to change each sound individually which you would have to do to use those sounds. I would try and find another theme that will work.
[17:47] <Guest61577> okay thank you
[17:48] <claptrap> Dr_Willis: As mentioned, too, it's not just Google. I've tried Bing, Yahoo and some random no-name search engine.
[17:48] <AceKing> Does anyone know if Magicjack is going to work in 10.04?
[17:50] <cleifer> anybody able to help me go from the default 2.6.5 python in lucid to 2.6.2 from karmic ?
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> claptrap:  run  the browsers from terminal,m check for  error messages. I cant imagine what would be crashing them all
[17:50] <bbordwell> cleifer, I can i think
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> AceKing:  i would be very suprised if Wine suddendly started working with magicjack
[17:50] <avis> ubuntuone wouldn't happen to have a cross platform client would it ?  i'm using dropbox
[17:50] <JMFTheVCI> Claptrap: Not seeing this on my system either. (Chromium & Google or Bing)
[17:51] <claptrap> I figure it's something I must have installed, but I can't figure out what it would be. My main suspects were AWN and Gnome-do, but I've closed both to no avail.
[17:52] <bbordwell> cleifer, it looks like python in karmic is 2.6.4
[17:52] <cleifer> hehe
[17:52] <cleifer> i guess i mean jaunty
[17:52] <claptrap> Dr_Willis: Termninal returned nada; it's not even acting like it's closed. And in fact, System Monitor shows Seamonkey sleeping in the processes.
[17:53] <cleifer> bbordwell, i have been leery to try much since so much in ubuntu depends on python - i could of course compile the source for 2.6.2 and just use that i guess, but wondered if i could do it w/apt
[17:53] <bbordwell> cleifer, packages.ubuntu.com
[17:54] <cleifer> bbordwell, yah i'm aware of that site
[17:55] <bbordwell> cleifer, well basicly you can go there and download the .deb files from jaunty and as long as you can get all the dependencies right you can downgrade
[17:55] <cleifer> bbordwell, word
[17:55] <cleifer> thank you sir
[17:55] <TommyThaGun> anyone used bootchart before?
[17:56] <bbordwell> cleifer, python might not be possible or very difficult though.
[17:56] <bbordwell> TommyThaGun, once a while ago
[17:56] <TommyThaGun> when you install it, do you just have to reboot your comp for it to run?
[17:56] <cleifer> yeah, i may just compile it and symlink it where i need it
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> Ive had differnt vbersions of python befor.. but it was like 2.5 and 2.6  not 2.6.x  and 2.6.x+1
[17:57] <bbordwell> TommyThaGun, I think so, it stores an image file somewhere i can not remember where though, look at that image and you can see the boot proccess
[17:57] <TommyThaGun> sweet
[17:57] <TommyThaGun> brb then
[17:57] <Pici> TommyThaGun: Yes. It sticks the boot charts into /var/log/bootchart/
[17:57] <AceKing> Thanks, Dr_Willis. I seen there was a way to use Virtualbox running XP, but you have to do something to get USB ports to be seen only by Windows
[17:57] <bbordwell> cleifer, yes you will have to uninstall current versions of python before you can install the ones you are downloading
[17:58] <cleifer> yeah, screw it, i'll build it
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> AceKing:  the VBOX from the vbox homepage can use USB stuff. not the one in the repos.
[17:58] <cleifer> thanks for the help bbordwell !
[17:58] <bbordwell> TommyThaGun, /var/log/bootchart
[17:58] <AceKing> Dr_Willis, Thanks! I didn't know that
[17:58] <bbordwell> TommyThaGun, that is where it will be
[17:58] <lunks> Hi, I just noticed Ubuntu has added support for iPhone/iPod Touch on Rythmbox, is it correct?
[18:00] <thehumanelement> Evince keeps opening up small, not maximised how I left it
[18:00] <thehumanelement> also it forgets to close the sidebar which I don't ever use and never want to see again
[18:00] <mc44> lunks: it depends what you mean by "support"
[18:00] <thehumanelement> it only remembers for particular files
[18:00] <thehumanelement> PDF files
[18:00] <lunks> mc44, copy and write music files
[18:01] <mc44> lunks: copy from yes, write no
[18:01] <lunks> mc44, oh it's just that it allows me to copy, but doesn't show up on my iPod
[18:03] <thehumanelement> anyone?
[18:03] <bbordwell> thehumanelement, I do not see a way to change it
[18:04] <thehumanelement> well it didn't do that in 9.10
[18:04] <thehumanelement> and now every time I start Evince it's small and in the top left corner, not maximised
[18:04] <thehumanelement> pretty ridiculous really