[00:50] <itaylor57> what version of chromium should be running in precise?
[00:54] <glosoli> itaylor57: wait I will check :)
[00:55] <glosoli> itaylor57: Chromium 17.0.963.78
[00:55] <Daekdroom> !info chromium-browser
[00:56] <itaylor57> cause somehow i have 18.0.997.0 (Developer Build 116462 Linux) Built on Ubuntu 11.10, running on Ubuntu 12.04
[00:58] <spacebug-> I just updated my packages and now the keybignings are not working correctly. I didof course also installed and ran the unsettings program from a third party PPA that alowes changeing stuff to unity.
[00:59] <glosoli> spacebug-: you mean the key bindings you set in keyboard properties via system settings ?
[00:59] <Daekdroom> spacebug-, some of the keybindings show in <Super> aren't accurate.
[01:01] <spacebug-> well first of all, I have always had ctrl+F# to change desktop, now firefox somehows grabs this also and my plugin "session manager" in firefox gets this (but it also changes the desktop).
[01:04] <itaylor57> well i uninstalled and reinstalled and now have right version
[01:07] <glosoli> Anyone knows if there's an ability to change maximize behaviour in Ubuntu ?
[01:07] <spacebug-> it seems to be working in my virtual machine running an updated unity 2D. But again maybe that program did something
[01:10] <Daekdroom> glosoli, don't crosspost questions.
[01:10] <Daekdroom> And what are you talking about?
[01:13] <glosoli> Daekdroom: CompizConfig-Settings-Manager -> Grid -> Edges -> Resize Actions -> Top Edge -> set it to "Fill Screen" move window with mouse to the top of the screen and see a magic
[01:13] <glosoli> how maximized windows should really look like
[01:13] <glosoli> :)
[01:14] <glosoli> to avoid max min close buttons to look like being in the wrong position
[01:17] <Daekdroom> In the wrong position?
[01:17] <Daekdroom> I don't see them in the wrong position.
[01:17] <glosoli> Daekdroom: do you have Unity Panel Always Shown ?
[01:17] <Daekdroom> Yes.
[01:18] <glosoli> So you just like that cheap design :)
[01:18] <glosoli> Sorry couldn't resist calling it cheap
[01:19] <glosoli> even mailing lists are trying to solve
[01:19] <glosoli> it's a problem for them too :)
[01:19] <Daekdroom> Oooh
[01:19] <Daekdroom> I get what you're saying.
[01:19] <Daekdroom> It didn't use to be a problem back when the Dash button used to be in the top bar, tho.
[01:19] <glosoli> Daekdroom: yes....
[01:19] <glosoli> and that big dash button
[01:20] <glosoli> is not economic decission for laptops :)
[01:20] <glosoli> space in launcher is already limited as you can't make it less than 32px
[01:21] <glosoli> if dash button will be moved to the top of that unity indicator or whatever that panel is called
[01:21] <glosoli> one problem will be gone :)
[01:21] <glosoli> one very big problem
[01:21] <spacebug-> seems to be working in unit 3D as well in my virtual machine so I (the program) probably messed something up
[01:22] <glosoli> spacebug-: might be because of some updates, happened for me twice :)
[01:22] <glosoli> Daekdroom: want me to show you another problem ?
[01:22] <glosoli> Daekdroom: which occured after dodge window removed
[01:22] <glosoli> Or I think it occured after that, but meanwhile it's a big problem too
[01:23] <Daekdroom> Oooh. Launcher looks so shiny in 64px.
[01:23] <Daekdroom> I think I'ma use it like this.
[01:23] <glosoli> Daekdroom: not in 1366x768 resolution it doesn't :)
[01:25] <Daekdroom> There is one problem with changing the launcher size, tho.
[01:25] <glosoli> Daekdroom: anyway, put  2 windows fully maximized in two different workspaces ant press Super +S  and try to see what's wrong :) you should look for workspace borders that windows fully maximized and there is empty place being shown, it's okay for power user, but may look complicated for daily or new  users
[01:25] <Daekdroom> The global menu edge won't fit well with the Launcher ending. The gap might become too big or get in the menu's way.
[01:25] <glosoli> Daekdroom: that's why there  is needed some work to do, in btw check another problem I described.
[01:26] <spacebug-> glosoli: ok ;)
[01:26] <glosoli> For some it may look okay, but these kind of little design BUGS as I call them, really won't make ubuntu shine better
[01:44] <mongo> for anyone who wants to try openvswitch in place of bridge-utils on 12.04 I wrote up this hack of a document
[01:44] <mongo> https://plus.google.com/u/0/114378443997641555027/posts/euDFgeyNQTy
[01:51] <spacebug-> I'm on unity-team's PPA. How can I remove that version installed and install the one from main?
[01:51] <spacebug-> also compiz and other packages
[01:55] <Daekdroom> Are you talking about removing unity-team's PPA?
[01:55] <glosoli> spacebug-: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[01:55] <glosoli> spacebug-: and then sudo ppa-purge ppa:unity-team/ppa
[01:55] <spacebug-> yeah well that will remove tha PPA right? But I want to downgrade all packages installed from that PPA to the ones in main
[01:56] <glosoli> ppa purge will do that for you
[01:56] <glosoli> :)
[01:56] <spacebug-> ah nice ;)
[01:56] <spacebug-> tnx
[01:56] <glosoli> use the two commands I mentioned above
[01:56] <spacebug-> ok
[01:57] <spacebug-> ppa-purge command not found
[01:57] <spacebug-> oh sorry
[01:57] <glosoli> install it first :P
[01:57] <spacebug-> yeah ;)
[01:57] <spacebug-> tired :P
[01:59] <glosoli> spacebug-: heh, know this feeling when everything starts falling out of the hands :D and eyes go mad :D
[02:00] <Daekdroom> ppa-purge is such a small package I wish it was shipped by default.
[02:00] <spacebug-> seems nice yeah
[02:00] <Daekdroom> The .deb is 4.3KiB
[02:00] <glosoli> yea
[02:00] <glosoli> Like I wish it would ship smth like ubunu tweak
[02:00] <glosoli> by default
[02:12] <spacebug-> and that seem to have made it ;)
[02:15] <glosoli> spacebug-: congrats
[02:15] <glosoli> :)
[02:16] <spacebug-> tnx alot man (or woman) or simply glosoli ;)
[02:16] <glosoli> man man ;D
[02:17] <glosoli> spacebug-: no probs :) anytime, okay, gotta go, good night :) 04:17 AM here
[02:18] <spacebug-> night
[02:18] <spacebug-> 3:17 here hehe
[02:50] <bastidrazor> does anyone have the default /etc/sudoers ?
[02:52] <andrewaclt> http://dpaste.com/714396/
[02:52] <bastidrazor> thanks
[02:59] <bastidrazor> good deal. me keeping my 11.10 sudoers isn't going to matter.
[04:52] <philipballew> in 12.04 a bug that was soupposed to be fixed in the 3.0.0-15.25 kernel is still present in the current status and I can confirm that the bug exists https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/872652
[04:53] <philipballew> It is a backlight bug that makes my backlight always stay on
[05:09] <jbicha> philipballew: go ahead an open a new bug
[05:10] <philipballew> jbicha, sounds good boss. I just hope its not my error here and I look like a noob. I dont always make a noob of myself, but when I do, I do it on the internet so everyone can see
[05:13] <c_smith> hmmmm, haven't run into the backlight bug myself..... strange.
[05:13] <c_smith> and I'm using a laptop that I've had for around 3 years.
[05:13] <philipballew> c_smith, its on a dell studio
[05:14] <c_smith> ah, no wonder, I'm using a Compaq Presario.
[05:14] <c_smith> runs everything but games quite nicely.
[05:15] <c_smith> games, it's a hit or miss with this machine, but that's considering I have a Intel Integrated GMA.
[05:21] <philipballew> c_smith, yeah i am intel as well
[05:23] <hot_wheelz> how come when I open the additional drivers menu none appear hence it says none available? (12.04)
[05:26] <c_smith> bleh.... Compiz just crashed..... and apport crashed gathering the info >.<
[05:27] <philipballew> time to file my first bug ever!
[05:29] <scriptwarlock> hot_wheelz, you have external hardware attached like nvidia?
[05:30] <jbicha> philipballew: run ubuntu-bug linux to report a kernel bug
[05:35] <hot_wheelz> scriptwarlock no just an internal videocard (nvida)
[05:35] <scriptwarlock> hot_wheelz, thats nice your clean
[05:38] <hot_wheelz> scriptwarlock so any ideas?
[05:47] <philipballew> is there a way to clean up my bug report to make it not look like crap? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/951339
[05:49] <hot_wheelz> I tried to install and test the YouTube Lens but requires the following package to run http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/precise/main/base/gir1.2-dee-0.5...The problem being that it appears to have been pulled from the repository so as you would expect it fails to install any idea why
[05:54] <scriptwarlock> hot_wheelz, you still can use dash to search for a youtube clips
[05:55] <hot_wheelz> scriptwarlock so it kinda installs then?
[05:58] <scriptwarlock> hot_wheelz, sort of included
[05:59] <hot_wheelz> scriptwarlock so you don't know why the package was pulled then?
[06:01] <philipballew> hibernation disapered as an option after upgrade? is there a guide to ree add that? my swap is all still the same so no problem there
[06:03] <jbicha> philipballew: http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754
[06:04] <scriptwarlock> hot_wheelz, see it in action open dash go to video and type justine beiber and set filter
[06:06]  * philipballew hugs jbicha
[06:14] <hot_wheelz> scriptwarlock so it does
[06:15] <scriptwarlock> hot_wheelz, yep
[06:30] <hot_wheelz> scriptwarlock that still does't exsplain why the package is missing from the repo though
[06:30] <hot_wheelz> interesting
[06:33] <hot_wheelz> scriptwarlock i am sure it will be fixed by time the final release rolls around right?
[06:34] <scriptwarlock> hot_wheelz, excatly
[07:13] <Edico> hi
[07:15] <scriptwarlock> halo Edico
[07:16] <Edico> I've switched from unity to gnome without effects. Right click on the top panel doesn't show anything
[07:17] <Edico> also I can't create a new panel
[07:18] <Edico> I want to add icons on the top panel
[07:18] <dr_willis> alt right click perhaps
[07:19] <Edico> oh! they changed that!
[07:20] <dr_willis> some time ago
[07:21] <Edico> I've changed from ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04
[07:21] <Edico> big step
[07:22] <dr_willis> i suggest just diving into unity and forget the gnome fallback/classic stuff.
[07:23] <Edico> I don't like unity
[07:23] <Edico> those effects slow my computer
[07:23] <dr_willis> and how long have you actually used it?
[07:23] <dr_willis> there is unity-2d
[07:23] <Edico> can I remove compiz from unity
[07:24] <dr_willis> there is unity-2d   no compiz in it
[07:24] <Edico> relog :)
[07:25] <dr_willis> in 12.04  unity is starting to shape up. its still a work in progress. but gaining neat features
[07:25] <scriptwarlock> agree
[07:26] <dr_willis> they do seem to be 'pulling' in 2 directions. going with features that would be good on a touch screen.. but then things like HUD that need a keybord
[07:30] <Edico> dr_willis, how can I change the icons of the left panel?
[07:31] <Edico> I mean the size of the icons
[07:32] <dr_willis> the myunity or unity-tweak tool i think
[07:32] <dr_willis> i always shrink them down to the min.
[07:33] <Edico> me too but I don't find the option
[07:33] <dr_willis> !info myunity
[07:48] <Edico> I can't launch ubuntu software center, I click on the icon, blick few times and doesn't launch the program
[07:49] <Edico> this happens after I did the updates
[07:50] <crizzy> same here
[07:50] <crizzy> i sometimes wonder do these package maintainers test their uploads at all
[07:50] <scriptwarlock> running fine here fully update
[07:51] <Edico> is there a way to have other panels besides the left one? In ubuntu 10.04 I've used to keep many icons in panels
[07:51] <crizzy> nope
[07:52] <crizzy> except with some 3rd party panel software.. awd, etc
[07:52] <Edico> the icons on the left panel I can't make them smaller than 32 px
[07:53] <scriptwarlock> Edico, you can adjust via appearance
[07:53] <scriptwarlock> Edico, oh 24px not yet possibl
[07:54] <crizzy> and never will be, likely
[07:54] <crizzy> and you will never be able to move the panel either
[07:54] <crizzy> love these braindead design decisions..
[07:56] <Tanzink> when is the assumed release date for 12.04 ?
[07:57] <dr_willis> there are some tweaks and hacks to move the launcher to the bottom
[07:58] <crizzy> those are indeed _hacks_
[07:58] <Edico> that could give much space
[07:58] <crizzy> but officially it will never be possible
[07:58] <dr_willis> and you could use some other docks uf yiu want other poanels
[07:58] <crizzy> so, i don't count it being possible
[07:59]  * Tronic wonders if Canonical accepts patches to Unity taskswitcher.
[07:59] <dr_willis> the left panel is the launcher. thats its focus. thats why its settings are so fixed
[07:59] <crizzy> dr_willis: still bad design is bad
[07:59] <crizzy> nailing the panel at left "just because" is no reason
[07:59] <scriptwarlock> what if the monitor was displayed vertically
[07:59] <dr_willis> its all debateable
[08:00] <crizzy> also the original excuse for it was, that they wanted panel always to be close to the ubuntu button. well, which was moved to the panel itself in 11.10...
[08:00] <dr_willis> they had reasons
[08:00] <crizzy> ^ no valid reasons anymore according to their own excuses
[08:00] <Tronic> It already behaves exactly like it should but it just looks wrong. Fixing that shouldn't be too difficult but I don't want to waste the time if the patch is going to be ignored like the others I've sent.
[08:00] <Edico> dr_willis, what other docks?
[08:00] <dr_willis> Edico:  several in the repos.
[08:00] <dr_willis> !dock
[08:00] <crizzy> none of those docks work well, though
[08:01] <valdur55> crizzy, docks?
[08:01] <dr_willis> they seem to work well for most people
[08:01] <crizzy> ^
[08:01] <crizzy> dr_willis: that's what ppl always claim
[08:02] <dr_willis> pointless argument day...
[08:02] <crizzy> yet first time i start an opengl app in any other res than native desktop, boom awn stuck at that resolution even after quitting the app.. works "great", sigh. reproducable: always
[08:02] <crizzy> i won't bother to report bugs anymore.. they just get ignored
[08:03] <valdur55> crizzy, fill more info and use labels
[08:03] <valdur55> opengl app - problems with video card driver?
[08:03] <crizzy> no
[08:03] <crizzy> awn problem
[08:04] <crizzy> like, if you start an app with 800x600 and you have 1920x1080 resolution, awn gets stuck at middle of screen like it would run in 800x600
[08:04] <crizzy> needs to be killed, only way to fix
[08:06] <Edico> in the left panel is it possible to give a custom command for an icon?
[08:06] <Edico> *to set a custom command
[08:06] <dr_willis> you can make custome launchers
[08:07] <dr_willis> seen guides at the askubuntu.com site on that topic
[08:16] <crizzy> in gnome2 there were easy menu editor for that.. not anymore. now you don't even have a gui to change fonts anymore :/
[08:19] <dr_willis> i think alacarte still works.
[08:19] <dr_willis> i recall seeing some font settings also.
[08:20] <dr_willis> might have been in myunity
[08:22] <crizzy> dr_willis: none of this is possible with default installation without hacks
[08:22] <crizzy> which makes me sad
[08:23] <crizzy> like ui design went backwards in time some 20 years.. except even back then this stuff was possible :/
[09:18] <snadge> hmm.. removing 1.5gig of kernels
[09:24] <Edico> I wonder if the final release of ubuntu 12.04 will have a package for php 5.4.0!
[09:28] <crizzy> likely not
[09:28] <crizzy> which is a shame.. 5 years stuck with 5.3 when 5.4 would finally drop some deprecated stuff and be 20% faster..
[09:31] <Tronic> Does anyone else have trouble with ubiquity crashing when doing manual partitioning?
[09:32] <Tronic> I haven't exactly identified when that happens but it appears to be a problem when I choose "install ubuntu" rather than "try ubuntu" and then start the installer from desktop icon.
[09:33] <Tronic> This is with kvm (qemu).
[10:10] <dns53> are there currently any show stopper bugs before i test the upgrade on this laptop?
[10:11] <dr_willis> not that ive seen mentioned lately dns53
[10:25] <dns53> thx, time to upgrade
[11:01] <thechef> Hi
[11:05] <thechef> I have delayed scrolling in chrome, the more excessive I scroll the more delay. I can cause it to be delayed by up to 4 seconds. I have Unity2D and intel graphics, slow hardware, but it wasn't delayed a few days ago. I assume either the most recent pwn2own-caused chrome update or ubuntu updates caused this.
[11:47] <Andy80> hi
[11:48] <dr_willis> Jello!
[11:49] <Andy80> di you know if there is an existing bug regarding Network Manager on precise? I've an Asus 1215P and my wifi connection worked fine until today. I booted the netbook, I'm connected to my home wifi, but clicking on the wifi icon in the top panel doesn't show me available wifi networks. This is strange :\
[11:49] <dr_willis> Ive not heard of any new issues today. You could try booting with an older kernel and see if it works
[11:51] <Andy80> dr_willis: I'm trying to upgrade to latest packages and I'll reboot to see if it was a temporary bug.... I'll keep you updated, thanks :)
[11:56] <Andy80> dr_willis: it magically re-appeared without rebooting :) it's still upgrading packages... probably it was really a temporary bug, fixed by something it has just installed
[12:33] <dr_willis> used a canned air duster to clean off my linux box... and it crashed. :)
[12:33] <dr_willis> or else i hit the power button or somthing...
[12:46] <ironhalik> isnt liquid propane a conductor? :)
[12:46] <Daekdroom> Is it?
[12:47] <ironhalik> Im not sure
[12:48] <ironhalik> I once red about some guy, submerging his PC in demineralized water
[12:48] <ironhalik> it worked for a minute or two, then crashed
[12:49] <ironhalik> :)
[12:49] <dr_willis> deionized water.
[12:49] <dr_willis> 'pure' water is not a conductor.. but it dosent take much conatnimation to get it to conduct.
[12:49] <ironhalik> both are corect AFAIK
[12:50] <ironhalik> yeah
[12:50] <dr_willis> we have gallons of deionized water at work.
[12:50] <ironhalik> yeah, they sell it at gas stations
[12:51] <ironhalik> BTW, anyone using GSM modem in their lappy with ubuntu?
[12:51] <scriptwarlock> me
[12:51] <dr_willis> been looking at data plans for those things today.. hard to justify the Price for me.
[12:52] <ironhalik> Ive got a Dells rebranded 3G modem, and it looses connectivity while on a train
[12:52] <ironhalik> and my android phone has nice 3g connection in the same placer
[12:52] <ironhalik> place*
[12:52] <ironhalik> dr_willis: Im on a prepaid plan and without timelimit, its ok for emergency use
[12:52] <ironhalik> scriptwarlock: hows the range? connection quality?
[12:53] <scriptwarlock> bad
[12:53] <dr_willis> id just use it at work.. it would be cheaper for me to just pay for a teathering plan for the android
[12:54] <ironhalik> dr_willis: or root your phone, and get tethering without nazi operators permission
[12:54] <crizzy> permission to use tethering? wut
[12:54] <ironhalik> some operators block tethering and charge additional fee for enabling it
[12:55] <crizzy> if some operator would try limiting how their pipes are used (like limiting tethering), they'd get few million euros fine
[12:55] <ironhalik> in europe, prolly yeah
[12:55] <crizzy> + bad press and lose all the customer sto competitors.. :D
[12:55] <ironhalik> its net neutrality issue, they oversell their pipes, assuming most people dont use the bandwidth
[12:55] <crizzy> esp. as changing operator is just matter of buying new one.. they handle moving the phone numbers, etc, so you don't even lose service for a day
[12:56] <ironhalik> and when they do use what they paid for, suddenly theyre hogging
[12:56] <crizzy> no contracts here.. actually they were illegal until couple years ago
[12:56] <ironhalik> wheres that crizzy?
[12:56] <dr_willis> ironhalik,  they are catching that.. plus i only got 2gb..
[12:56] <crizzy> no one buys them still either.. that would be incredibly stupid, locking yourself to one isp for a year or two
[12:56] <crizzy> ironhalik: finland
[12:57] <ironhalik> Im on orange, on prepaid
[12:57] <ironhalik> for 30 bucks, I get 6 gigs of data + those 30 for whatever
[12:57] <ironhalik> and the account is valid for two years
[12:58] <ironhalik> actually its a knockout offer among all the operators here
[12:58] <crizzy> 30??
[12:58] <crizzy> sick
[12:59] <ironhalik> just that I got a SIM card for my lappy, and it turns out the 3G modem is useless on a train :)
[12:59] <crizzy> 13,90eur/mo for 15MBit 3G here
[12:59] <crizzy> unlimited
[12:59] <crizzy> 4,90e for 0.5Mbit basic :)
[13:00] <ironhalik> nice, didnt think there were unlimited 3g data plans anywhere :)
[13:00] <crizzy> i think only limited "plan" available here is iphone
[13:00] <crizzy> which is lulz
[13:01] <crizzy> if someone would add datacaps... everyone would just change operator :)
[13:01] <crizzy> iirc Elisa added 50gigs/month after it gets throttled.. they more or less got huge customer loss after that
[13:01] <ironhalik> nice competetive market
[13:02] <crizzy> competitive thanks to regulations
[13:02] <crizzy> telecommunications is like water and electricity imo, it should be regulated and definitely not let for "free" ripoff markets
[13:02] <ironhalik> yeah, too much potential for abuse
[13:02] <crizzy> US is grand example of this :D
[13:02] <crizzy> worse 3g/cellphone networks than in africa
[13:02] <ironhalik> we had a national telco here
[13:03] <ironhalik> and for some odd reason, the politicians decided to straighten it out
[13:03] <ironhalik> and actually managed to make it nice - everybodys happier
[13:03] <ironhalik> 20 meg DOCSIS for 20 bucks etc
[13:04] <ironhalik> now they could do something about electricity ;>
[13:04] <crizzy> :>
[13:04] <ironhalik> I buy more and more efficient electronics and pay 50% more then last year for power
[13:04] <crizzy> here's also good that operators _must_ rent their pipes to other operators with a "fair" price
[13:05] <crizzy> so basically they can't "own" any areas
[13:05] <crizzy> i could form my own isp too and just buy the connections
[13:05] <ironhalik> Yeah, its same here
[13:05] <crizzy> and they would have to sell it for less than they charge their customers for it
[13:06] <ironhalik> for the national telco at least
[13:06] <crizzy> actually everyone has entitled to 1mbit connection by law
[13:07] <crizzy> in whatever craphole you live in, the operator MUST deliver internet for you there :D
[13:07] <ironhalik> yeah, heard about that, on slashdot I think
[13:07] <ironhalik> that somewhere they added internet access to the constitution :)
[13:08] <ironhalik> we have some subsided operator here, thats supposed to provide free 3G access, capped at 512Kb/s
[13:08] <ironhalik> but theres lots paper work to get it
[13:08] <ironhalik> would be good enough for my lappy :)
[13:09] <DocPlatypus> crizzy: no three strikes law for filesharing?
[13:11] <ironhalik> I guess three strikes are better then bullying with lawsuits
[13:11] <ironhalik> Ahh, if only finland was a little bit warmer... ;>
[14:09] <ia> Hello. Can someone, please, take a look at bug 951540 - any confirmations or duplicates?
[14:18] <ironhalik> ia: AFAIK, its currently done on purpose
[14:20] <ironhalik> ia: your system needs to be whitelisted
[14:21] <ironhalik> ia: you can use pm-hibernate or or you can enable it via some hack
[14:22] <valdur55> Lubuntu live-session misses cups package
[14:26] <edgy> Hi, how can I tell whether my nvidia binary driver is loaded not the vesa or nv or whatever else?
[14:26] <edgy> I am asking because my xorg.conf file doesn't contain any reference to nvidia
[14:30] <Chipaca> edgy: what does xdriinfo say?
[14:40] <edgy> Chipaca: $ xdriinfo
[14:40] <edgy> libGL is too old.
[14:40] <Chipaca> hah
[14:41] <Chipaca> edgy: and glxinfo?
[14:44] <bjsnider> glxinfo|grep vendor
[14:46] <edgy> Chipaca: http://pastebin.com/Xmgvfmzn
[14:46] <edgy> bjsnider: NVIDIA Corporation
[14:46] <Chipaca> edgy: that looks like the proprietary driver alright
[14:47] <edgy> Chipaca: but I sitll think it's not. first because I remember xorg.conf should be modifed to contain nvidia
[14:48] <edgy> second because I remember the frames from glxgears should be more than 60000 (160000 may be)
[14:56] <valdur55> edgy, what about v
[14:56] <valdur55> glxinfo | grep direct *
[14:58] <Daekdroom> edgy, glxgears framerates mean nothing
[14:58] <alex_mayorga> I see some video corruption between the login screen and the actual desktop, what should be the ubuntu-bug command to use?
[14:58] <Daekdroom> (unless they're lower than your refresh rate. Then I think that's a problem)
[14:59] <JohnNapster> hello
[15:00] <edgy> Daekdroom: I don't care about its meaning but I know the first time i installed the driver in this same laptop the number is much higher. beside I still believe xorg.conf should reference the driver, no?
[15:00] <JohnNapster> where's the About box found in ubuntu 12.04?
[15:00] <JohnNapster> it's labeled Overview
[15:00] <JohnNapster> it says  ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:01] <JohnNapster> should have been  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[15:01] <JohnNapster> capital U
[15:02] <JohnNapster> please fix that
[15:03] <alex_mayorga> JohnNapster: File a bug repport
[15:03] <alex_mayorga> JohnNapster: The window with the typo should have a "Help" menu and a "Report bug" entry under it
[15:06] <bluefrog> and precise it is very important...
[15:07] <JohnNapster> can you tell me the package name of that particular thing?
[15:07] <JohnNapster> if you click on  System Settings...
[15:07] <JohnNapster> then click on the first icon in the System section
[15:08] <JohnNapster> the  Details  thing
[15:08] <JohnNapster> what do you see as your version of ubuntu?
[15:08] <JohnNapster> what exactl do you see?
[15:08] <JohnNapster> exactly
[15:08] <JohnNapster> ubuntu 12.04 LTS  or  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS  ?
[15:09] <bastidrazor> i see it in lowercase too.
[15:10] <JohnNapster> that's a typo then
[15:10] <JohnNapster> can you fix this if youo're a dev?
[15:11] <JohnNapster> or tll me the package name that would have this string in it
[15:11] <JohnNapster> or tell*
[15:27] <alex_mayorga> Help! How do you zoom out after pressing Meta+R accidentally?
[15:34] <alex_mayorga> What-s the package that shows the ubuntu logo and a progress bar on startup and shutdown?
[15:54] <spacebug-> 5
[15:54] <spacebug-> sorry :(
[16:04] <bmoez> when i start up my computer, ligthdm don't open and that is what i have:
[16:04] <bmoez>  ...<every line end by:>...    [OK]
[16:04] <bmoez>  * starting ligthdm Display Manager * stopping crash report submission daemon
[16:04] <bmoez>  * stopping CPU interrupts balancing daemon
[16:04] <bmoez> mountall: echec of plymounth command
[16:04] <bmoez>  mountall: deconnection of plymounth
[16:04] <bmoez> can i fixed by other ubuntu installed in the same compurt?
[16:26] <Daskreech> Hello
[16:27] <Daskreech> I installed the php5 package in 12.04 but php files are still set to download by apache
[16:27] <Daskreech> is that known?
[16:28] <ppd> hi there, has anyone experience with kyocera network printers in 12.04 and can confirm that they stopped working with cups 1.5.2?
[16:28] <ppd> whereas in oneiric and cups 1.5.0 all works as it should
[16:45] <tominglis> hi, i'm running ubuntu 12.04, and have run into a dependency problem when dist-upgrading my installation - here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/VKVXVzcx - does anyone know what i can do to fix this?
[16:46] <tominglis> if i try to remove gconf2 / libgconf2-4 / libgconf-2-4 to reinstall them, then it offers to remove a lot of other important packages!
[16:47] <tominglis> i've had a good look on google / ubuntu forums but can't find a solution
[16:47] <tominglis> is there a way to fix this without having to do a clean install?
[16:50] <dr_willis> it mighht get fixed if you wait a day or so.
[16:50] <dr_willis> if its a package/repo issue.
[16:53] <tominglis> i don't think it's just that though
[16:53] <tominglis> i've been waiting a day, and i dist-upgraded a couple of other computers in the mean time and they worked fine?
[16:56] <tominglis> is there anyone that might be able to help me here, or is there a more appropriate channel to ask about this?
[17:01] <dr_willis> on the weekend - often things get pushed off untill monday
[17:02] <tominglis> the change was yesterday though? and i've upgraded other computers in the mean time, and they've been 110%
[17:03] <tominglis> can i force an older version of libgconf-2-4?
[17:03] <swattor> anyone else running precise have a real problem getting hold of scrollbars (unity)?
[17:05] <tominglis> in fact, it just seems that i need to force the installation of gconf2 ahead of the libgconf updates to make it work
[17:05] <tominglis> but i don't know how to do that
[17:05] <tominglis> the dependencies will all match once that occurs
[17:05] <dr_willis> tominglis,  give package names in order I think.
[17:05] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install foo1 foo2 foo3
[17:07] <tominglis> it just won't let me install that, it goes straight into the dependency dialog i try to do that
[17:08] <tominglis> as per : http://pastebin.com/VKVXVzcx
[17:09] <dr_willis> 54 not fully installed or removed.  is sort of a red flag. :) but im not sure how to kick apt in the head
[17:10] <tominglis> is there a way to force it to bypass dependency checking and install something?
[17:10] <tominglis> i think if i can just put in gconf2 and then the lib file after it will resolve everything and configure those packages
[17:12] <tominglis> apt-get --force-yes install ?
[17:30] <scar3crow> workaround to have a sound indicator for alsa mixer... (I have uninstalled pulseaudio) ?
[17:33] <scar3crow> (pulseaudio doesn't seem to work as well with games...
[17:38] <elkng> when kubiuntu 12.04 will be released ? 01.04.12 ?
[17:39] <JohnNapster> yello
[17:39] <JohnNapster> anyone on ubuntu precise beta1 running unity desktop type in the Terminal   gnome-control-center info   and notice that it says  ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[17:40] <JohnNapster> and not Ubuntu ...
[17:40] <trism> JohnNapster: the ubuntu logo is lower case...
[17:40] <JohnNapster> also, the "ubuntu" text is higher than the 12.04 LTS text    wtf?
[17:40] <JohnNapster> is that by design?
[17:45] <tominglis> dr_willis: i fixed it - needed to manually download and install the conflicting packages with dpkg --force-depends -i
[17:45] <tominglis> boom!
[17:45] <tominglis> :)
[18:35] <trijntje> I'm trying to upgrade to precise using 'update-manager -d', but when I click on upgrade I get an error: cannot find version information, server is probably busy
[18:40] <trijntje> looks like apt-cacher caused some trouble, it works when I disable it
[18:56] <delight> E: Internal Error, No file name for libgcc1
[18:56] <delight> I get this error on the configuration part of libgcc1 ...did a aptitude dist-upgrade on 12.04
[18:56] <delight> did others have the same problem ?
[19:00] <delight> is there a way to quick fix this ?
[19:03] <FernandoMiguel> darn..... compiz/unity are fighting over Alt+Tab control :/
[19:05] <jadoe> what vlc version ships with 12.04? (and where do I find something like this out?)
[19:08] <iceroot> !info vlc precise
[19:08] <trism> !info vlc precise | jadoe
[19:08] <trism> ahh I was too slow
[19:08] <iceroot> but just a second :)
[19:08] <jadoe> thanks
[19:08] <iceroot> jadoe: packages.ubuntu.com or "apt-cache policy packagename"
[19:44] <piotr_kuna> hi there
[19:44] <piotr_kuna> :)
[19:44] <piotr_kuna> my pigdin is hanging after startup in 12.04 :(
[19:45] <KM0201> hmm, works fine here
[19:45] <Daekdroom> Sometimes pidgin's window won't show up for me. Then I kill the process and start it again.
[19:45] <Daekdroom> until it works.
[19:45] <Daekdroom> But it's not hanging up.
[19:46] <piotr_kuna> mine is showing the list
[19:46] <piotr_kuna> it logs in  i think
[19:46] <piotr_kuna> but the window is frozen then
[19:46] <piotr_kuna> it will be dark in a few seconds
[19:47] <piotr_kuna> interesting is, i synced the ~/.pidgin directory to another machine, also 12.04, it works there
[19:47] <piotr_kuna> synced back
[19:47] <piotr_kuna> it does not work here
[19:50] <hakermania> Hey guys. Can anyone reproduce this huge bug?
[19:50] <hakermania> Right click on desktop->Change Desktop Background, wait for the window to load, and then click a random wallpaper from the list in your left. See? Background changed to the wallpaper you chose and the window 'Appearance' lost focus.
[19:51] <hakermania> in your right*
[19:51] <hakermania> where can I report this?
[19:51] <Daekdroom> hakermania, Appearance window doesn't lose focus for me.
[19:52] <hakermania> Daekdroom, are you in beta 1?
[19:52] <piotr_kuna> give me a tip, how can i diagnose/repair my pidgin
[19:52] <Daekdroom> I'm up-to-date
[19:52] <hakermania> Daekdroom, weird, I can reproduce it and so cans the bug-reporter over here:https://bugs.launchpad.net/wallpaper-changer/+bug/950739
[19:54] <Daekdroom> Hm.. There is a gnome-control-center update available for me.
[19:54] <Daekdroom> Let me test again in a minute
[19:54] <hakermania> ok, thanks a lot
[19:55] <Daekdroom> Still nothing.
[19:55] <Daekdroom> With or without a window behind 'appearance'
[19:57] <hakermania> Daekdroom, I am currently downloading updates. I'
[19:57] <hakermania> ll check again in a while
[20:10] <phunyguy> hello, I am having an issue with Rhythymbox and ubuntu 12.04, when my library exists on a smb share (via gvfs) - it gets through adding about 30-40 songs to the library, and then the share unmounts.
[20:13] <JohnDoe_> hello
[20:15] <hakermania> Daekdroom, after updating and restarting I cannot reproduce.... Weird anyway though....
[20:16] <hakermania> Daekdroom, nah, it started again.... What should I do? I am up to date.
[20:16] <Daekdroom> It started again?
[20:16] <Daekdroom> Does that mean it did work alright for a moment?
[20:17] <hakermania> Yes it did...
[20:17] <hakermania> It worked fine and then I told you it worked, and then I rechecked and it does it again :(
[20:21] <hakermania> Daekdroom, check this file: http://www.mediafire.com/?cmzv9ihg605t2gd
[20:21] <hakermania> sorry for advertising :/
[20:21] <Daekdroom> That does not happen to me, at all.
[20:22] <Daekdroom> Do you set your Launcher as neverhide?
[20:22] <hakermania> did you see it?
[20:22] <Daekdroom> Yes, I did
[20:22] <hakermania> No, launcher autohides
[20:23] <Daekdroom> Hm, it's not that.
[20:23] <valdur55> !pastebinit | hakermania
[20:24] <hakermania> valdur55, did I pasted too much text?
[20:24] <ruffleS> hey guys, there's this really annoying bug I'm hoping someone's already reported it. when you drag a maximized window it doesn't follow your mouse cursor and falls way below the cursor, like half of the window is off the bottom edge of the screen. has anyone ever noticed this?
[20:25] <hakermania> ruffleS, yes I have, it happens when you drag a window quickly on the edge and then you don't drop it
[20:25] <hakermania> but you still drag it
[20:25] <hakermania> it isn't annoying though
[20:25] <valdur55> hakermania, damn i thought that was text file :)
[20:26] <hakermania> valdur55, oh, np then
[20:26] <valdur55> which you shared with mediafire
[20:27] <ruffleS> hakermania: do you happen to know whether this bug has been already reported on launchpad by any chance?
[20:27] <hakermania> ruffleS, nop, i dont know
[20:27] <ruffleS> hakermania: i find it to be highly annoying
[20:27] <ruffleS> ooook.. thanks
[20:31] <hakermania> Can anybody else in this room reproduce the bug?
[20:42] <hakermania> Daekdroom, after another restart, i cannot make it reproducable.... weird...
[21:10] <phunyguy> hello folks, on my laptop, the wifi seems to slow to a chug, until i initiate a reconnect, then it works for a while at full speed, then drops to a crawl again (about 1mbit vs full g speed), the internal wifi is using the rtl8192ce module
[21:13] <phunyguy> its not my router, because it does it while at work as well.
[21:26] <thiebaude> hey everyone, quick question. On Ubuntu 12.04 when i have firefox open, How do I hide Unity?
[21:30] <[deXter]> Hi all, anyone here upgraded from 11.10 using the CD?
[21:30] <MaWaLe> thiebaude:  for me it is hided automatically
[21:31] <[deXter]> I'm running it right now and it's taking ages at the "Removing conflicting operating system files" step.
[21:31] <[deXter]> Been like 30 mins+
[21:31] <thiebaude> MaWaLe, it wont go away for me
[21:31] <thiebaude> when i have firefox open
[21:31] <MaWaLe> thiebaude:  and for other apps?
[21:32] <thiebaude> yep the same
[21:32] <MaWaLe> thiebaude:  you have Unity 3D or 2D?
[21:32] <thiebaude> 3d
[21:32] <thiebaude> should i swithc to 2d?
[21:32] <thiebaude> switch
[21:33] <MaWaLe> thiebaude:  you can try for test but i don't think that it will be the solution
[21:34] <thiebaude> ok thanks for trying to help me :)
[21:34] <thiebaude> brb
[21:34] <MaWaLe> thiebaude:  sorry ;)
[21:50] <thiebaude> MaWaLe, i found it, in appearence there is an option to auto hide
[21:52] <MaWaLe> thiebaude:  but it's automatically activated :o
[21:53] <thiebaude> when ever i had used unity before, it was
[21:53] <[deXter]> It still getting stuck there.. any ideas folks?
[21:57] <thiebaude> now im going have to make a decision as to am i going to keep this
[21:58] <[deXter]> Anyone?
[22:10] <[deXter]> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/924660
[22:12] <ironm> one question more: can I use a 256GB SSD as follows: 1-st partition (120GB) for 11.10 and the 2-nd partition (120GB) for 12.04? The rest (16GB) as shared swap area? .. the system has already 16GB RAM and shouldn't swap (at least I hope so ;)
[22:13] <Daekdroom> ironhalik, 16GB RAM doesn't need Swap at all, unless you want hibernate (then you need atleast 16GB Swap), and yes, SWAP is shared through the systems.
[22:13] <Daekdroom> ooops
[22:14] <Daekdroom> I meant ironm
[22:14] <Daekdroom> Damn tab-completion.
[22:14] <ironm> Daekdroom: for buliding of combined iso images it is sometimes not enough (I use RAM disk .. )
[22:14] <FernandoMiguel> ironm: I haven't had a swap since I moved to SSD/8 gbs ram
[22:15] <FernandoMiguel> ofc I loose hibernate
[22:15] <Daekdroom> Oh. You don't do the usual desktop things.
[22:16] <ironm> Daekdroom: / FernandoMiguel : I will not use this system as desktop (now web cache) ..only as system to create some ubuntu live images .. however I am doing it normally inj RAM disk
[22:17] <FernandoMiguel> k
[22:35] <gnarlin> I'm running ubuntu 12.04 beta. When I run mplayer it complains that:  mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libcdio_paranoia.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. Could someone help?
[22:36] <imnichol> Does anyone know what the situation is with bugs marked as diplicates of private bugs?
[22:39] <gnarlin> hello?
[22:40] <bjsnider> !file libcdio_paranoia.so.0
[22:41] <bjsnider> !find libcdio_paranoia.so.0
[22:41] <gnarlin> file watch\?v\=KMU0tzLwhbE  libcdio_paranoia.so.0
[22:41] <gnarlin> watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE:   ERROR: cannot open `watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE' (No such file or directory)
[22:41] <gnarlin> libcdio_paranoia.so.0: ERROR: cannot open `libcdio_paranoia.so.0' (No such file or directory)
[22:41] <gnarlin> well. if mplayer is relying on this package then mplayer needs to be fixed in precise
[22:42] <bjsnider> that's probably your issue in a nutshell
[22:42] <gnarlin> right?
[22:42] <gnarlin> so, does this mean that this is an official bug in ubuntu?
[22:42] <bjsnider> it probably hasn't been rebuilt recently and cdparanoia has
[22:42] <gnarlin> there was another library problem, but I symlinked it
[22:43] <bjsnider> gnarlin, file a bug against mplayer in precise
[22:43] <gnarlin> I can't remember what library it was though :/
[22:43] <gnarlin> will do
[22:43] <bjsnider> ubuntu-bug mplayer
[22:43] <gnarlin> bbl
[22:43] <bjsnider> it probably just needs to be rebuilt to take into account changes in some dependencies, eg. cdparanoia
[23:07] <gnarlin> ok. Filed bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayer/+bug/951875. And now we play  the waiting game. [queue jeopardy theme music].
[23:07] <ironm> hello. anyone around using live-builder 3.x on ubuntu? Where can I find newer live-build packages for ubuntu 11.10 than 3.0~a24-1ubuntu17 ? ... Thank you in advance for any hints ;)
[23:14] <CacheMoney> I couldn't join the #ubuntu channel for some reason, so I'll ask my question on here.  I'm booting Ubuntu 11.10 from a USB on an older laptop.  I can't connect to the internet wirelessly for some reason.  Any ideas?
[23:16] <Daekdroom> CacheMoney, this is not the place for Ubuntu 11.10-related questions.
[23:33] <TheToff> Just checking: Is this the right place to discuss issues with the 12.04 beta build?
[23:34] <TheToff> I've specifically noticed two or three very crappy things concerning the new build, and I wanted to confirm user error before I started a bug report
[23:36] <TheToff> One, the partitioning portion of the installer for 12.04 incorrectly reports my Windows NTFS partition as being completely blank, and as in the 11 series, I have no wi-fi until I install and blacklist acer-wmi
[23:38] <spaceneedle>  the Top utility is reporting a high cpu usage(33% at times) for compiz.
[23:38] <TheToff> After setting up on a usb through Pendrive, and setting up the persistent changes file, I then set a root password using the traditional sudo passwd root command, and edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf to blacklist the acer-wmi so that I can have wi-fi, but the changes are not persistent, as they are supposed to be
[23:39] <TheToff> The partitioning bit on the installer is not that bad an issue, more of a minor inconvenience, as I know the approximate size of my NTFS partition, but the problems with persistent changes across reboot is a bit of a bitch, pardon my french
[23:41] <TheToff> well, you must all be very busy then.
[23:41] <TheToff> My apologies for disturbing you on your endless sitting.
[23:41] <TheToff> Have a good day/afternoon/night
[23:42] <Daekdroom> Why do some people behave like there's someone getting paid to watch this 24/7?
[23:44] <itaylor57> lol


[09:03] <manadart> gsamfira: Ping.
[10:21] <manadart> stickupkid, achilleasa: Heading out for a walk. Put up a trivial one: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12621
[13:12] <manadart> stickupkid: More mechanics - https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12622.
[13:56] <Hybrid512> Hi
[13:57] <Hybrid512> How do you "force" a MaaS KVM host to generate a VM for a deployment which respect your constraints ? I mean generate at deploy time, not using prebuilt (aka compose) before deployment.?
[13:59] <Hybrid512> I did a simple test with a prebuilt VM selected based on constraints and it worked pretty well but if I try with some other constraints where this VM don't fit, there is no VM that is automatically generated
[14:07] <manadart> achilleasa: Have you played with this? ^
[14:17] <achilleasa> Hybrid512: I believe maas 2.9 should be able to spin up a KVM (or lxd) instance based on the constraints you pass to it
[14:18] <Hybrid512> well, 2.8 does too but sometime it does and some others, it doesn't and I don't know why
[14:18] <Hybrid512> so my question was more, is there a way to make sure it does ?
[14:20] <achilleasa> Have you tried asking at https://discourse.maas.io?
[14:21] <achilleasa> I have seen this behavior when running kvm tests locally and have added lxd as a vm host to maas
[14:21] <Hybrid512> not yet
[14:21] <Hybrid512> but I'll do, I was hoping someone would have a quick answer here
[14:23] <achilleasa> btw, have you dialed up the overcommit settings for the kvm host (in maas)?
[14:26] <Hybrid512> I just asked for 4 cores which I have since I have no VMs on this KVM host which has 64 cores so far enough to spin a small VM like this