[03:06] <bimberi> yaaar: System -> Help -> Ubuntu 5.10 Starter Guide
[03:06] <leetcharmer> for me, all the video files are really jumpy
[03:06] <zack> leetcharmer: hell yes.
[03:06] <TiMiDo> leetcharmer; what wrong with totem?
[03:06] <ryorininseven> leetcharmer: You've tried using the Xine engine?
[03:07] <zack> oh. yay for gstreamer!
[03:07] <cafuego_> zack: The delicious flavour of manjam on the collar?
[03:07] <mustard5> yaaar, you can find a Ubuntu 5.10 starters guide in your help menu  on breezy
[03:07] <leetcharmer> ryorininseven, I don't know how to use the Xine engine
[03:07] <petard> batman: sudo perl -MCPAN -e shell
[03:07] <Madpilot> leetcharmer: use the totem-xine version, it seems to work better in Breezy
[03:07] <ryorininseven> leetcharmer: apt-get install totem-xine
[03:07] <leetcharmer> in past distros I've used, mplayer has been flawless
[03:07] <TiMiDo> leetcharmer; try downloading vlibdvdcss2
[03:07] <petard> batman: install XML::Parser
[03:07] <TiMiDo> libdvdcss2
[03:07] <concept10> leetcharmer, try this while watching videos :  sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[03:08] <zack> ubuntu doesn't set dma?
[03:08] <concept10> leetcharmer, or whatever your drive is
[03:08] <concept10> zack, I dont think so out of the box for some drives
[03:08] <TiMiDo> zack; nope
[03:08] <leetcharmer> the files are in /home
[03:09] <concept10> because it could cause instability with install
[03:09] <leetcharmer> like /home/user/Document/test.avi
[03:09] <zack> ah, my laptop has a sata drive -> no hdparm for me anyway
[03:09] <TiMiDo> zack; try modprobe sata
[03:09] <aztek> zack, what laptop do you have
[03:09] <zack> aztek: X41
[03:09] <yaaar> is there a quick way to get a remote x session going from my ubuntu machine to this gentoo laptop?
[03:09] <leetcharmer> ya -- that's somethin' I admire about Ubuntu, it's the first distro I've had that's been able to get RAID to work :D
[03:09] <zack> TiMiDo: no such module
[03:09] <aztek> they have sata. cool
[03:10] <tr3vis> leetcharmer, yeah, it installed my ide controller card no problem
[03:10] <zack> leetcharmer: debian sarge didn't work?
[03:10] <tr3vis> not even windows does that
[03:10] <nalioth> yaaar: google "x forwarding"
[03:10] <zack> aztek: yeah, and DDR2. don't be fooled though, the drive isn't very fast. 1.8".
[03:10] <gnomefreak> now im getting cdrom errors says to apt-cdrom i dida nd im not sure what it wants me to do
[03:10] <leetcharmer> zack, never tried debian sarge
[03:10] <zack> leetcharmer: i imagine it'd work on debian. also, did you try fedora?
[03:11] <leetcharmer> MEPIS and Xebian have been my only Debian based distros other than Ubuntu
[03:11] <leetcharmer> before then I've done Slackware, Vector Linux (based on Slackware), Xandros, and Mandriva(MDK9.x)
[03:12] <kbrooks> cool.
[03:12] <zack> ah, i wouldn't expect any non-Debian or non-RH distro to support RAID out-of-the-box
[03:12] <leetcharmer> but -- anyway, ya -- also, video often doesn't work in Firefox as it has in past distro's I've used
[03:12] <leetcharmer> but I think that's a totem problem
[03:12] <leetcharmer> before I've always done mplayer
[03:12] <gnomefreak> is there somethign wrong with the arcive sources or is it ubuntu?
[03:12] <zack> totem's mozilla plugin is a bit flaky
[03:13] <kbrooks> leetcharmer: on arch i used mplayer-plugin
[03:13] <leetcharmer> I tried to use mplayer plugin, but firefox insists on using totem regardless
[03:14] <kbrooks> leetcharmer: Did you like Slackware?
[03:14] <Determinist> !winmac
[03:14] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Determinist
[03:14] <informant> gnomefreak: "If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine), then retry." (uboto)
[03:14] <Determinist> !winmac_fstab
[03:14] <ubotu> Determinist: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:14] <gusto5> lol
[03:14] <gnomefreak> i did that
[03:14] <Determinist> lol
[03:14] <gnomefreak> than ran apt-get update after 5-10 mins and now its giving me cdrom errors
[03:15] <informant> gnomefreak: what release version?
[03:15] <leetcharmer> kbrooks, ya -- big fan of slackware
[03:15] <Determinist> !mount
[03:15] <ubotu> I heard mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[03:15] <gnomefreak> 5.10
[03:15] <nalioth> !ntfs
[03:15] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:15] <leetcharmer> kbrooks, insanely stable
[03:15] <kbrooks> leetcharmer: why switch
[03:15] <leetcharmer> kbrooks, I became a fan of this package manager
[03:15] <gnomefreak> what me to paste errors over at pastebin???
[03:15] <informant> gnomefreak: hmm. do you have any lines in /etc/apt/sources.list for cd-roms?
[03:15] <leetcharmer> kbrooks, midnight commander was a pain
[03:15] <gnomefreak> not that i know of
[03:15] <gnomefreak> i shouldnt
[03:15] <kbrooks> leetcharmer: pain/
[03:15] <kbrooks> ?*
[03:15] <informant> gnomefreak: check, and remove any if you do
[03:15] <gusto5> informant, you shouldnt need any lines
[03:15] <kbrooks> but its a gui?
[03:15] <informant> gusto5: huh?
[03:16] <gnomefreak> ok
[03:16] <gusto5> oh. never mind infernall
[03:16] <kbrooks> its GRAPHICAL
[03:16] <leetcharmer> kbrooks, yeh, installing / uninstalling apps weren't as straight-forward
[03:16] <gusto5> never mind informant*
[03:16] <informant> ah
[03:16] <leetcharmer> kbrooks, that's about the only actual dispute that's legit with linux these days
[03:16] <notChankster> god this stuff is just starting to get annoying
[03:16] <Ekibyougami> mmm, chocolate milk
[03:16] <gusto5> gnomefreak, it should say in synaptic
[03:16] <leetcharmer> everything else has been pretty much tweaked to practical usage, but installing software is still ... not up to par
[03:16] <n0odl3> is it just me or is the updater not working
[03:17] <n0odl3> im getting abunch of gpg errors
[03:17] <kbrooks> leetcharmer: on  slack?
[03:17] <kbrooks> leetcharmer: what do you think about apt
[03:17] <informant> n0odl3: "If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry." (uboto)
[03:17] <leetcharmer> kbrooks, yes -- but that applies to all distros as well
[03:17] <leetcharmer> kbrooks, I'm a fan of apt, keeps me from needin' to do all the CVS downloading
[03:17] <informant> can someone please add that to the channel topic?
[03:17] <n0odl3> ok
[03:18] <gnomefreak> i did have one not sure how but i did
[03:18] <gnomefreak> i removed it
[03:18] <informant> oh, good; nm
[03:18] <leetcharmer> kbrooks, the thing is though -- as far as installation on all distros go, we shouldn't need to have different packages for each distro, like .deb or .rpm etc
[03:18] <kbrooks> leetcharmer: i hated compiling on slack
[03:18] <gusto5> anyone know requirements for 3ddesktop?
[03:18] <yaaar> anybody know what the command is to run the Ubuntu 5.10 Starter Guide? I can do ssh X forwarding, but I need the command to run (I'm out in my shed watching the NLCS on my projector and using my laptop, but the ubuntu box is in the living room)
[03:18] <kbrooks> leetcharmer: well i agree
[03:18] <riddlebox> hello all
[03:18] <leetcharmer> kbrooks, ya -- that was somewhat time-consuming, but slackware was the only distro I could get to accept the FatX filesystem
[03:18] <notChankster> So I followed the instructions on changing the resolution and now my X won't work
[03:18] <riddlebox> how do I get mp3 support in amork?
[03:18] <leetcharmer> (which I used for hacking my xbox)
[03:18] <nalioth> !faq
[03:18] <ubotu> hmm... faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[03:19] <Maikeru> xbox is fatX?
[03:19] <leetcharmer> aye
[03:19] <leetcharmer> Maikeru, haha
[03:19] <kbrooks> Maikeru: fat(fill in)
[03:19] <gnomefreak> looks like its working now
[03:19] <kbrooks> Maikeru: fat == fat16
[03:19] <informant> gnomefreak: good
[03:19] <Maikeru> kbrooks, or fat32
[03:19] <gnomefreak> how the hell did i get a cd source in there?
[03:19] <Maikeru> I know what the FAT fs is, I just don't like it
[03:19] <Maikeru> but it's better than NTFS
[03:19] <bimberi> yaaar: gnome-help
[03:20] <notChankster> GOD I broke it AGAIN
[03:20] <Maikeru> funny thing is Window's doesn't support ext3fs at all, whilst linux at least supports reading of NTFS
[03:20] <kbrooks> Maikeru: i hate ntfs
[03:20] <yaaar> bimberi: word
[03:20] <leetcharmer> Maikeru, I beg to differ, NTFS uses smaller *forgot the word* sizes
[03:20] <leetcharmer> I'm thinkin' byte sizes
[03:20] <Maikeru> or any other partition type for that matter
[03:20] <leetcharmer> so more data actually fits on the HDD
[03:20] <kbrooks> Maikeru: it doesnt LET YOU do dir quotas
[03:20] <kbrooks> Maikeru: only drive quotas
[03:20] <Maikeru> let's leave it at this
[03:20] <Maikeru> linux > *
[03:20] <bimberi> yaaar: ?
[03:21] <Maikeru> :-)
[03:21] <kbrooks> Maikeru: no
[03:21] <leetcharmer> Maikeru, they made an ext3 reader for Windows
[03:21] <Maikeru> But it's not built in
[03:21] <Maikeru> and that's the thing
[03:21] <kbrooks> Maikeru: i *like* windows sometimes
[03:21] <leetcharmer> is NTFS reading built in to Ubuntu?
[03:21] <Maikeru> yes
[03:21] <kbrooks> leetcharmer: yes
[03:21] <leetcharmer> leet :D
[03:21] <leetcharmer> mount -t ntfs?
[03:21] <kbrooks> leetcharmer:
[03:21] <kbrooks> !winmac
[03:21] <ubotu> kbrooks: Bugger all, i dunno
[03:21] <Maikeru> mount -t ntfs /dev/hd(letter + number of windows drive) /media/windows or w/e
[03:21] <kbrooks> !win
[03:21] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, kbrooks
[03:21] <leetcharmer> gotcha
[03:22] <informant> Maikeru: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFAT
[03:22] <nalioth> !ntfs
[03:22] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:22] <kbrooks> leetcharmer: "letter + number" ->
[03:22] <informant> Maikeru: "XFAT or FATX is a slightly modified version of the File Allocation Table designed for Microsoft's Xbox video game console hard disk drive, used in an effort to reduce piracy."
[03:22] <kbrooks> a for master, b for slave
[03:22] <wharf> Hi there.
[03:22] <yaaar> bimberi: uh, just a slang affirmative, or exclaimation. like "word to your mother" from the old-school rappers......
[03:22] <djjason> I keep getting this error when I am compiling mozilla.....Cannot find X libraries -lXt. Does anyone know what library that is
[03:22] <Maikeru> informant, ah, I see
[03:22] <yaaar> bimberi: anyway, that worked great. thanks
[03:22] <Eggo> i am retarded, I need help, how to install .deb packages?
[03:22] <Maikeru> it's actually called FatX?
[03:22] <kbrooks> informant: now you ARE a informant, ;)
[03:22] <Maikeru> retarded
[03:22] <wharf> I followed the instructions on the kubuntu site on how to get kde on ubuntu
[03:22] <leetcharmer> kbrooks, roite
[03:22] <informant> Maikeru: yes
[03:22] <Maikeru> I thought X was representing the number
[03:23] <Maikeru> heh
[03:23] <informant> nope
[03:23] <wharf> I did apt-get install kde-desktop
[03:23] <wharf> but it didn't find anything
[03:23] <Maikeru> only reason I use Windows is cause of the gaming ability
[03:23] <notChankster> So I followed the instructions on changing the resolution and now my X won't work
[03:23] <Maikeru> (Counter-Strike)
[03:23] <Hobbsee> wharf: use apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:23] <leetcharmer> anyway -- shop is setup, who's ready to get some Ubuntu questions answered? :D
[03:23] <informant> :-)
[03:23] <Maikeru> neway
[03:23] <Maikeru> brb
[03:23] <Maikeru> gotta finish this geometry
[03:23] <Maikeru> almost done
[03:23] <wharf> Thats what i did.
[03:23] <kbrooks> leetcharmer: ask
[03:23] <mustard5> djjason, mozilla from synaptic is no good for you?
[03:23] <tamale> Strange question perhaps, but how long should it take after the first reboot after taking out the CD?   I'm currently at the gold "ubuntu" screen and the progress bar hasn't moved for several minutes.. but my HDD activity lights are going fine...  this is on a dual Pentium 3 server with 2gb of ram.
[03:23] <bimberi> yaaar: yw :)
[03:23] <kbrooks> !firefox
[03:23] <ubotu> I don't know, kbrooks
[03:23] <leetcharmer> Maikeru, CS:S runs fine on my Ubuntu :D
[03:23] <wharf> oww
[03:23] <leetcharmer> (Cedega)
[03:24] <wharf> I did your version sorry
[03:24] <notChankster> leetcharmer: CS:S runs on ubuntu?
[03:24] <Centaur5> How do I find out which kernel source to install?  The one I selected says that it's not authenticated.
[03:24] <wharf> Is kde on the ubuntu cd
[03:24] <wharf> ?
[03:24] <Maikeru> well CS 1.6
[03:24] <leetcharmer> kbrooks, :/ I was hoping as answer some questions :D
[03:24] <Hobbsee> wharf: no, i think it's on the dvd though
[03:24] <Maikeru> refuses to work on cedega
[03:24] <leetcharmer> aye, CS:Source runs on my Ubuntu :D
[03:24] <Maikeru> rather, let me expand, steam won't
[03:24] <wharf> I only have the ubuntu cd
[03:24] <Maikeru> but maybe their new version will
[03:24] <wharf> Not the dvd
[03:24] <kbrooks> leetcharmer: oh misread
[03:24] <dave_> How do you install a .deb package when you download it rather than getting it from a repository?
[03:24] <djjason> mustard5, no I am doing this for a different project
[03:24] <leetcharmer> :/ ... steam killed my MEPIS, thus making me wish to try out Ubuntu :D
[03:24] <Maikeru> leetcharmer, cedega 4.4.2?
[03:24] <leetcharmer> aye
[03:24] <riddlebox> does anyone else get GPG errors when doing apt-get update?
[03:24] <nalioth> Hobbsee: only on the kubuntu dvd
[03:25] <wharf> Where can i download kde for it?
[03:25] <notChankster> Can someone help me yet again?
[03:25] <Maikeru> hmm
[03:25] <aariel> anyone care to (attempt to) offer up an answer to what might be a non-ubuntu-specific issue i'm having?
[03:25] <Maikeru> I have that
[03:25] <mustard5> djjason, k
[03:25] <Maikeru> but steam won't work right
[03:25] <leetcharmer> non-work for U?
[03:25] <leetcharmer> what happens for U?
[03:25] <bimberi> Eggo: dpkg -i file.deb
[03:25] <bimberi> Eggo: er, sudo dpkg...
[03:25] <Maikeru> you have the latest version of steam (with really big and rounded GUI?)
[03:25] <notChankster> no my questions is about something different
[03:25] <tamale> Strange question perhaps, but how long should it take after the first reboot after taking out the CD?   I'm currently at the gold "ubuntu" screen and the progress bar hasn't moved for several minutes.. but my HDD activity lights are going fine...  this is on a dual Pentium 3 server with 2gb of ram.
[03:25] <leetcharmer> Maikeru, mine looks the same as it did before?
[03:25] <frank23> are there conflicts between prelink and wine?
[03:25] <riddlebox> what do
[03:25] <notChankster> So I followed the instructions on changing the resolution and now my X GUI won't work
[03:25] <mustard5> aariel, put it out there and lets see :)
[03:25] <greg_s> aariel, shoot
[03:26] <Maikeru> with just the one small rectangle
[03:26] <Maikeru> ?
[03:26] <leetcharmer> I didn't know there was a new GUI
[03:26] <Maikeru> well
[03:26] <Maikeru> I installed it on Windows
[03:26] <leetcharmer> ya, one small rectangle
[03:26] <Maikeru> the other day
[03:26] <Maikeru> and it looked diff
[03:26] <riddlebox> what do I do if I am getting GPG errors when I do apt-get update?
[03:26] <Maikeru> really diff
[03:26] <Maikeru> odd
[03:26] <leetcharmer> well, in game they're all rounded
[03:26] <wotnarg> riddlebox: do you have non offical repos?
[03:26] <leetcharmer> but not outside of the game
[03:26] <Maikeru> pm
[03:26] <riddlebox> wotnarg:nope stock install
[03:26] <Eggo> dpkg, thanks a lot
[03:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell riddlebox about gpgerr
[03:26] <tamale> the new steam menu has the browser built-in to the games interface
[03:26] <Bobby_chen> how do i play .wmv and .,asf
[03:26] <dave_> Thanks!
[03:26] <tamale> can anyone answer me?
[03:26] <tamale> Strange question perhaps, but how long should it take after the first reboot after taking out the CD?   I'm currently at the gold "ubuntu" screen and the progress bar hasn't moved for several minutes.. but my HDD activity lights are going fine...  this is on a dual Pentium 3 server with 2gb of ram.
[03:27] <mustard5> tamale, it might well still be working
[03:27] <dooglus> tamale: try holding control and left alt while you press F1 - you might see what it's really doing
[03:27] <aariel> I've been trying to compile the xegl server (i know, i know.. highly experiemental), and it can't seem to locate my xlib11-dev headers like "Xlib.h" and "Xutil.h".. i can post the error if it would help.. anyone know if there is a variable i should be modifying for this or something?
[03:27] <tamale> ok
[03:27] <wotnarg> yeesh, steam sucks.  See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[03:29] <leetcharmer> Bobby_chen, EasyUbuntu will cover it all for ya
[03:29] <notChankster> dooglus: then when i try to go back to X it gives an error and goes back to console
[03:29] <nalioth> leetcharmer: please dont advise 'easyubuntu'
[03:30] <leetcharmer> nalioth, does it contain bad things in it?
[03:30] <dooglus> notChankster: any particular error?  or just a general "something don't work" message?
[03:30] <nalioth> it has hosed a few systems
[03:30] <Eggo> any way to get dpkg to manage dependencies?
[03:30] <notChankster> dooglus: Something to the extent of "I can't load so fix it"
[03:30] <gusto5> Bobby_chen, search for the deb package online and dpkg it
[03:30] <tamale> ok it looks like it's startin from scratch again
[03:30] <leetcharmer> nalioth, ya -- it hosed my systems twice .. but then they released their new *.*.+1 bug fix
[03:30] <thinkle> I have a very simple video editing task -- I've ripped a file from a DVD and I know want to break it into separate files at a few set points. Does a simple editor exist that anyone can recommend? I've tried lives but it takes forever on the big file and is far more advanced than what I need...
[03:30] <pupil> nalioth, is ther something wrong with the U.S mirrors?
[03:30] <dooglus> Eggo: apt-get manages dependancies for dpkg
[03:30] <leetcharmer> nalioth, it made everything all better :D
[03:31] <tamale> damn.. it stopped at the same place again.. "hot plug subsystem"
[03:31] <tamale> should i have plug n play OS enabled or disabled in bios?
[03:31] <leetcharmer> tamale, it shouldn't matter, but for good measure, disable
[03:31] <elglas> disabled works well
[03:31] <pupil> nalioth, I'm reffering to when I do apt-get update., at the end I get GPG error for  http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release:
[03:31] <tamale> ok
[03:31] <n0odl3> same with me
[03:31] <gusto5> pupil
[03:31] <notChankster> dooglus: Something to the extent of "I can't load so fix it"
[03:31] <n0odl3> i still get gpg errors too
[03:31] <pupil> gusto5, yeah
[03:31] <Bobby_chen> ty guys
[03:31] <gusto5> pupil, do a /topic
[03:32] <pupil> lol
[03:32] <gusto5> where it mentions GPG errors :P
[03:32] <n0odl3> the gpg errors keep coming
[03:32] <leetcharmer> n0odl3, I used to get GPG errors, so I reinstalled a couple of times and it eventually fixed itself
[03:32] <dooglus> notChankster: I saw, but that doesn't help.  can you upload the logfile somewhere?
[03:32] <n0odl3> oh crap
[03:32] <nalioth> pupil: it seems so
[03:32] <azp> Hi guys
[03:32] <notChankster> dooglus how do i even save it
[03:32] <gusto5> leetcharmer, what are you talking about? reinstallation doesnt fix gpgerrors...
[03:32] <pupil>  /msg ubotu gpgerr
[03:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pupil about gpgerr
[03:32] <greg_s> aariel, sorry, from configure try configure --help and add directory to whatever the variable it likes  (something like --xincludes=<directory>
[03:32] <gusto5> pupil, with out the sapce :p
[03:32] <azp> I am a big ubuntu noob, can anybody help me with installing a wlan usb card?
[03:32] <dooglus> notChankster: it's saved in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or something like that
[03:32] <n0odl3> well this only happened after i installed kde
[03:32] <leetcharmer> gusto5, well -- I had broken packages (and what caused those broken packages also messed w/ my GPG keys, I am guessing)
[03:33] <tamale> man.. i just have to say.. props to all the people who just hang out in here and help people
[03:33] <hyphenated> azp: step 1: plug it in, and see if it's detected
[03:33] <tamale> are you guys getting paid to do this?
[03:33] <leetcharmer> so -- instead of removing the broken packages, I reinstalled :D
[03:33] <azp> It is
[03:33] <leetcharmer> a couple of times, and it worked fine in the end
[03:33] <n0odl3> i think kubuntu must have broken some packages
[03:33] <gusto5> lol leetcharmer. as far as i know, gpg errors arent caused on your end
[03:33] <leetcharmer> ALSO -- did anyone else get 5.04 CDs in the mail instead of 5.10?
[03:33] <mphilpot> Can anyone help me with kernel compilation with Breezy?
[03:33] <dooglus> notChankster: if you /msg ubotu !paste, he'll tell you how to upload it
[03:33] <Maikeru> I got mine in today
[03:33] <Maikeru> 5.04
[03:33] <hyphenated> azp: is it detected? if so, run 'network-admin'
[03:33] <leetcharmer> gusto5, oh -- well that makes sense when I had to reinstall a 'couple' of times
[03:33] <mphilpot> It doesn't seem like the necessary stuff is there in the repository
[03:33] <windex> mphilpot, you gotta use gcc-3.4, that's all i know.
[03:33] <leetcharmer> and eventually worked :D
[03:34] <Maikeru> but don't they send them out with each release
[03:34] <tamale> damn guys.. that still didn't fix it
[03:34] <gnomefreak> they sent out hoary cds instead of breezy?
[03:34] <gusto5> leetcharmer, i blame coincidence
[03:34] <n0odl3> crap
[03:34] <Maikeru> automatically
[03:34] <Eggo> any way to install the opera browser through synaptic package manager?
[03:34] <gusto5> rofl
[03:34] <n0odl3> i think i have to reinstall because of kubuntu
[03:34] <mphilpot> I can't even find the sources (2.6.12-9 isn't in the repository)
[03:34] <gnomefreak> eggo you cant
[03:34] <leetcharmer> ya -- they sent out hoary instead of breezy
[03:34] <epsas_> hello
[03:34] <Maikeru> well when I requested hoary was out instead of breezy
[03:34] <leetcharmer> :/ I placed another order ... I didn't know they send new ones w/ each release
[03:34] <Eggo> how to install opera otherwise?
[03:34] <epsas_> i keep getting W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:34] <Maikeru> I requested mine in August/September
[03:34] <Maikeru> lol
[03:34] <Maikeru> got it today
[03:34] <leetcharmer> I got it today too
[03:34] <gusto5> epsas_, do a /topic :)
[03:34] <epsas_> whenever i try to do an apt-get update (amd64)
[03:34] <mphilpot> and build-essential looks like its already setup for g++ 4.0 rather than 3.4
[03:35] <epsas_> gusto5 - thx
[03:35] <bimberi> ubotu tell Eggo abpit p[era
[03:35] <Kyral> I requested 55 Breezy CDs ;P
[03:35] <bimberi> ubotu tell Eggo abpit opera
[03:35] <leetcharmer> does Kubuntu base sound off of ALSA instead of gstreamer?
[03:35] <gusto5> epsas_, its really this you need => /msg ubotu gpgerr
[03:35] <epsas_> yaar
[03:35] <n0odl3> yeah leetcharmer it does
[03:35] <leetcharmer> n0odl3, LEET
[03:35] <bimberi> gah
[03:35] <Maikeru> don't they automatically send them out once you've requested them once
[03:35] <gusto5> whats up, bimberi?
[03:35] <leetcharmer> :/ quick -- why do people like gstreamer?
[03:35] <Maikeru> like, I requested hoary, so shouldn't they automatically send me breezy too?
[03:35] <gusto5> bimberi, you left the ! out
[03:35] <Kyral> no clue...
[03:35] <leetcharmer> I've noticed ALSA > gstreamer (at least for my setup "Audigy 2 Platinum)
[03:35] <gusto5> Maikeru, no
[03:35] <bimberi> gusto5: not my typing :)
[03:36] <epsas_> hmm - it seems like ubotu is not responding
[03:36] <Maikeru> hmm, that's what my friend said, so I was double checking
[03:36] <gusto5> Maikeru, you need to resubmit a new order
[03:36] <mphilpot> does anyone know what I need to install in order to build the kernel?
[03:36] <leetcharmer> :/ like -- my mic doesn't work in Ubuntu, but mebbe it will w/ Kubuntu
[03:36] <Maikeru> hmm
[03:36] <pupil> gusto5, I'm using Breazy Pre release though
[03:36] <Maikeru> mmk
[03:36] <Coz> hello all what is the topic?
[03:36] <leetcharmer> so -- does anyone else here have a facebook?
[03:36] <gusto5> pupil, umm...get full?
[03:36] <leetcharmer> www.facebook.com :D
[03:36] <greg_s> mhpilot, there are several methods on the wiki
[03:37] <gusto5> i officially hate boxtorrents
[03:37] <mphilpot> I'll go look... thanks!
[03:37] <leetcharmer> how many people are here reading ... but not participating?
[03:37] <Spitzer20> do you ubuntu?
[03:37] <greg_s> wellcome
[03:37] <Kyral> you have mail
[03:37] <madcat_1212> can anyone help me with my terminal
[03:37] <leetcharmer> OH!!! also ... I'd like to make a suggestion, as opposed to BitTorrent, how bout' Azeurus? :D:D:D:D
[03:37] <mhz> hi all
[03:37] <gusto5> lol Spitzer20
[03:37] <Spitzer20> when is next version of ubuntu due out? :P
[03:37] <gusto5> madcat_1212, what is wrong?
[03:37] <Spitzer20> i requested cds online
[03:37] <leetcharmer> sure .. it's java, but it's mostly leet imo :D
[03:37] <gusto5> Spitzer20, what version are you on?
[03:37] <Coz> ubuntu 2006
[03:37] <leetcharmer> Spitzer20, Dapper Drake is due in about 2 yrs
[03:38] <Spitzer20> gusto5:  None
[03:38] <mhz> has anyone ever run Ubuntu and OSX on a x86 box?
[03:38] <madcat_1212> gusto5: when i type sudo apt-get update, it returns and error
[03:38] <gusto5> Spitzer20, well 5.10 breezy is out now
[03:38] <Kyral> Dapper is due in April
[03:38] <Kyral> because we JUST released Breezy
[03:38] <Hobbsee> !tell madcat_1212 about gpgerr
[03:38] <ajmitch_> leetcharmer: please, don't spread misinformation like that :)
[03:38] <Spitzer20> gusto5 has cds shipped ?
[03:38] <azp> I am having problems with my netgear ma111 usb wirless network card, I have installed the linux-wlan package, and ndiswrapper.  then installed the .inf and then the modprobe, and ndiswrapper -m but I am still having problems with it not being recognized
[03:38] <hedgehog> Guys! Could I install ubuntu and keep windows also?
[03:38] <tamale> it freezes at "hot plug subsystem" every time
[03:38] <gusto5> Spitzer20, when did you order?
[03:38] <gusto5> hedgehog, yes
[03:38] <leetcharmer> ajmitch_, dapper?
[03:38] <hedgehog> ok
[03:38] <Hobbsee> hedgehog: sure
[03:38] <hedgehog> awesome
[03:38] <ajmitch_> leetcharmer: yes
[03:38] <Spitzer20> gusto5 hmmmm maybe few weeks ago
[03:38] <mhz> madcat_1212: are you sure source.list is ok?
[03:38] <leetcharmer> ajmitch_, fix my error?
[03:38] <gusto5> Spitzer20, did you have to sin up at some site?
[03:38] <hedgehog> goodbye, humans
[03:38] <azp> source.lists?
[03:39] <gusto5> madcat_1212, did you expand your repos yet?
[03:39] <Coz> mamke sure you have good ,inux bootloader
[03:39] <ajmitch_> leetcharmer: it's a 6 month releease schedule like usual, we're not waiting 2 years
[03:39] <Spitzer20> gusto5:  2005-10-03: 5 CDs (sent to shipping company)
[03:39] <Spitzer20> gusto5:  10/03, says it was sent
[03:39] <madcat_1212> my souce .list is good
[03:39] <leetcharmer> ajmitch_, I thought I read somewhere that they were puttin' in 2 years of effort into it to compete w/ Vista
[03:39] <Coz> any news on midi files playing in ubuntu breezy final
[03:39] <Spitzer20> has anyone got the cds yet? :)
[03:39] <mustard5> tamale what usb devices you got?
[03:39] <Spitzer20> should be any day now
[03:39] <mphilpot> greg_s, the wiki looks like you need build-essential but I can't install that because of a dependency on g++ 4.0
[03:39] <mhz> ajmitch_: god to see you here, too
[03:39] <gusto5> Spitzer20, im not too sure.
[03:39] <shagg> anybody have a way of reinitializing icons in ubuntu?  when I did my upgrade to breezy, all my icons went the same (a sheet of paper) plus I've lost my Show Desktop and Trash icons from the toolbar.  any hints?
[03:39] <mhz> ajmitch_: sorry, good.
[03:40] <ajmitch_> leetcharmer: dapper will be released after 2 years of development, when you include warty through breezy
[03:40] <gusto5> Spitzer20, do you remember WHICH version you ordered for?
[03:40] <leetcharmer> ajmitch_, that is of course for +1.x opposed to x.+x
[03:40] <derek> hey, how do i check if ubuntu/my mother board detected my dual processors successfully
[03:40] <ajmitch_> hello mhz
[03:40] <bimberi> !icons
[03:40] <mhz> ajmitch_: hi
[03:40] <ubotu> If you have missing icons after upgrading to Breezy, change theme at System -> Preferences -> Theme
[03:40] <Spitzer20> Please note that orders placed now will not ship until approximately one week after the release of Version 5.10
[03:40] <Spitzer20> when was 5.10 released?
[03:40] <Spitzer20> today?
[03:40] <gusto5> Spitzer20, they're coming
[03:40] <gusto5> soon
[03:40] <gusto5> no
[03:40] <leetcharmer> ajmitch_, well nifty :D good, I didn't wanna wait 2 yrs for vista competitive update
[03:40] <gusto5> 5.10 has been out
[03:40] <tamale> no usb
[03:40] <Spitzer20> gusto5:  since when?
[03:40] <gusto5> just makin sure you didnt make a 5.04 shipment order
[03:40] <Maikeru> oct 13
[03:40] <mhz> ajmitch_: any experience of x86 running Ubuntu and OSX on top?
[03:40] <tamale> mustard5:   no usb
[03:40] <Spitzer20> thanks maikeru
[03:40] <madcat_1212> gusto5: i edited my sources.list already if that is what you mean
[03:40] <ajmitch_> mhz: none
[03:40] <Maikeru> np
[03:40] <Spitzer20> so its not even a week yet
[03:41] <dooglus> where is the current development release?  breezy has been in package freeze for quite a while now - so where are the new versions of packages going?
[03:41] <gusto5> madcat_1212, did you edit them properly?
[03:41] <Spitzer20> ok kewl, next week prolly :)
[03:41] <Spitzer20> or maybe even this week
[03:41] <gusto5> spacedman, 13th?
[03:41] <dooglus> I guess I'm looking for the 'sid' equivalent
[03:41] <ajmitch_> dooglus: dapper will be open in the next day or two
[03:41] <mustard5> tamale, hmmm... ok
[03:41] <gusto5> Spitzer20, 13th?
[03:41] <leetcharmer> I've noticed Ubuntu projects are being taken up as Google Projects, do you think Google plans to support Ubuntu sometime in the future?
[03:41] <mhz> ajmitch_: know of anyone?
[03:41] <nalioth> dooglus: there is no dev release
[03:41] <mphilpot> so no one can build the kernel now?
[03:41] <ajmitch_> mhz: no
[03:41] <dooglus> ajmitch_: what about the warty warthog?  has that been cancelled?
[03:41] <madcat_1212> gusto5: i copy pasted directly from the website on ubuntosupport.org
[03:41] <mhz> ajmitch_: boooh :D
[03:41] <mphilpot> (since build-essential has been upgraded??)
[03:41] <benplaut> leetcharmer: don't count on it
[03:41] <leetcharmer> For any who don't know, Google allocates 20% of employees time to do whatever projects they want to on their own
[03:41] <ajmitch_> dooglus: what do you mean, cancelled?
[03:41] <nalioth> dooglus: warty warthog?
[03:41] <dooglus> sorry, I mean grumpy groundhog.
[03:41] <Spitzer20> Matt Zimmerman mdz at ubuntu.com
[03:41] <Spitzer20> Wed Oct 12 23:10:20 CDT 2005
[03:41] <madcat_1212> gusto5: *ubuntusupport
[03:42] <mustard5> tamale, i'm not sure what the issue is....have you tried hitting F1 for help at the start of the install process and checking the install options?
[03:42] <Spitzer20> oct 12th :)
[03:42] <nalioth> dooglus: are you on ritalin?
[03:42] <Spitzer20> oct 12th to 13th
[03:42] <Spitzer20> so one week would be
[03:42] <ajmitch_> no, grumpy will be around sometime soon, not sure when
[03:42] <dooglus> nalioth: not to my knowledge
[03:42] <Spitzer20> today
[03:42] <Spitzer20> kewl
[03:42] <Spitzer20> may get it this week
[03:42] <ajmitch_> although you wouldn't want to run many packages from it
[03:42] <leetcharmer> tis' both a curse + blessing, but what are your thoughts on sudo rather than a root account?
[03:42] <gusto5> Spitzer20, yep. they START shipping :)
[03:42] <nalioth> dooglus: dapper drake will ramp up developement in the coming weeks
[03:42] <Maikeru> sudo passwd
[03:42] <Maikeru> lol
[03:42] <mphilpot> greg_s, sorry -- I have to register with freenode to do private messaging...
[03:42] <leetcharmer> Is anyone here gonna attend the Ubuntu convention?
[03:42] <mphilpot> I'll brb
[03:42] <mustard5> tamale, might be start from scratch time
[03:42] <Maikeru> that's my thoughts
[03:43] <ajmitch_> leetcharmer: UbuntuBelowZero?
[03:43] <yaaar> when i try to get dvd/mp3 and the like, and i add the nerim.net repo, i'm getting gpg errors.....do i need to do something special to enable these?
[03:43] <leetcharmer> ajmitch_, is that what it's called?
[03:43] <gusto5> madcat_1212, did your repos look like these ones? wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[03:43] <Spitzer20> gusto5:  Im glad i ordered it early
[03:43] <petard> mhz: looks like someone has :-)
[03:43] <leetcharmer> ajmitch_, the one where devs are makin' a battle plan for dapper
[03:43] <petard> v
[03:43] <petard> http://pearpc.net/images/screenshots/1101166325s.jpg
[03:43] <ajmitch_> leetcharmer: yes, I'll be attending
[03:43] <mhz> petard: have you?
[03:43] <leetcharmer> ajmitch_, are you a dev?
[03:43] <gusto5> Spitzer20, you on dial-up?
[03:43] <psycode> How can i play midi files ?
[03:43] <ajmitch_> leetcharmer: yes
[03:43] <Spitzer20> gusto5:  7mbps
[03:43] <leetcharmer> ajmitch_, how can I get plugged in?
[03:43] <gusto5> Spitzer20, why didnt you just...download it?
[03:43] <leetcharmer> ajmitch_, my skills are limited, but I want to be used :D
[03:43] <petard> mhz: no... i have on fedora though
[03:43] <Spitzer20> gusto5:  too slow
[03:44] <Spitzer20> gusto5:  Im waiting for 100mbps :)
[03:44] <gusto5> WHAT?
[03:44] <ajmitch_> leetcharmer: #ubuntu-motu, join the MOTU crew & get famous ;)
[03:44] <gusto5> Spitzer20, you have a 7mbps connection and its too slow?!
[03:44] <azp> When I install a driver for a wlan card, using hte ndiswrapper, and it says the driver is invalid, but it isnt, what should I do?
[03:44] <mhz> petard: OSX on Fedora?
[03:44] <Spitzer20> gusto5:  yes
[03:44] <Spitzer20> gusto5:  im waiting for fios and 30mbps
[03:44] <petard> mhz: yes. using pearpc
[03:44] <oxez> a 17" LCD Monitor with integrated speakers for 299$CAN, is that a good deal?
[03:44] <madcat_1212> gusto5: looks about the same
[03:44] <Spitzer20> or faster
[03:44] <mustard5> psycode, timidity
[03:44] <gusto5> Spitzer20, i downloaded it on 3 mbps....
[03:44] <Spitzer20> heh
[03:44] <Spitzer20> 3mbps geez
[03:44] <mhz> petard: ok, I'll google bout it
[03:45] <gusto5> madcat_1212, and what did you say was the problem again?
[03:45] <Spitzer20> gusto5 is 5.10 much better than the previous version?
[03:45] <bluefoxicy> Question:  What.  The.  FUCK.  is with DHCLIENT?!!!!!!!!!!
[03:45] <DigitalFox> does anyone know if there's a package for java syntax highlighting in vim on Ubuntu?
[03:45] <gusto5> spacedman, in my opinion yes
[03:45] <azp> can some1 get me on aim about installing a wlan card?
[03:45] <ajmitch_> bluefoxicy: language, please :P
[03:45] <bluefoxicy> DHClient goes, "DHCPACK from <IP_ADDRESS>; bound to <IP_ADDRESS>"
[03:45] <bluefoxicy> ifconfig immediately says my IP is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:45] <madcat_1212> gusto5: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:46] <leetcharmer> azp, you have a good question, I liveCD'd my dad's comp w/ a wlan card, and it can't axx the internet
[03:46] <leetcharmer> axx =access, btw :D but U IRC kids should know that :D
[03:46] <gusto5> madcat_1212, did you make a clean install of 5.10?
[03:46] <psycode> mustard5, thanks - but what should i put as a config file ?
[03:46] <DigitalFox> bluefoxicy: hi
[03:46] <azp> ................
[03:46] <bluefoxicy> hey urb
[03:46] <madcat_1212> gusto5: i sure did
[03:46] <DigitalFox> bluefoxicy: would you happen to know the answer to my question?
[03:46] <qmanman> does a root password exist by default?
[03:47] <bluefoxicy> DigitalFox:  nope, not in the least.
[03:47] <yaaar> how can i tell apt-get not to worry about the public key? the nerim.net repo doesn't seem to have one available...
[03:47] <gusto5> qmanman, no.
[03:47] <qmanman> I seem to rememeber someting like "ubuntu"
[03:47] <qmanman> huh
[03:47] <madcat_1212> gusto5: it seems to work fine now with that sources liste from the wiki site
[03:47] <mustard5> psycode, I don't understand , what config?
[03:47] <leetcharmer> qmanman, to root, sudo and pw = your user pw
[03:47] <gusto5> qmanman, its the one you set
[03:47] <bluefoxicy> DigitalFox:  i hate java remember :>
[03:47] <gusto5> madcat_1212, glad to hear.
[03:47] <bimberi> ubotu tell qmanman about root
[03:47] <qmanman> gusto: one I set? wont take it
[03:47] <gusto5> lol
[03:47] <yaaar> qmanman: do "sudo passwd"
[03:47] <tiglionabbit> how do I make it so nautilus only makes a new window when I want it to?
[03:47] <qmanman> I KNOW ABOUT SUDO :-0
[03:48] <DigitalFox> bluefoxicy: I do too
[03:48] <leetcharmer> qmanman, heh, sry :D:D:D
[03:48] <qmanman> =p
[03:48] <devinlew> help!!
[03:48] <gusto5> qmanman, are you talking about logging in or rooting in terminal?
[03:48] <qmanman> rooting a terminal
[03:48] <qmanman> I need to cat something to /sys
[03:48] <gusto5> sudo -s?
[03:48] <tiglionabbit> currently it makes a new window when I hit backspace, and on every step of looking at smb shares
[03:48] <qmanman> and sudo doesn't cut it
[03:48] <gusto5> wont take your pass?
[03:48] <madcat_1212> gusto5: thanks alot
[03:48] <tiglionabbit> I want it to not make new windows all the time
[03:48] <derek> can anyone help me figure out if both my processors are being detected?
[03:48] <gusto5> tiglionabbit, its in your...nautillis settings
[03:49] <qmanman> sudo appartenly doesn't have perms.....
[03:49] <tiglionabbit> where are my nautilus settings?
[03:49] <qmanman> eh screw it
[03:49] <gusto5> qmanman, which user are you in right now?
[03:49] <qmanman> normal login user
[03:49] <gusto5> OH
[03:49] <gusto5> ok
[03:49] <SlicerDicer-> how do I stop ubuntu from making my monitors from going to sleep?
[03:49] <gusto5> are you on another user account?
[03:49] <gusto5> you hae to add them to the sudoers list dont ya?
[03:49] <qmanman> nope, my usual
[03:49] <qmanman> yar
[03:49] <gusto5> oh.
[03:49] <gusto5> ok :)
[03:49] <devinlew> im having trouble getting my pcmcia wireless card to be detected...any ideas?
[03:49] <gusto5> tiglionabbit, gimme a sec
[03:49] <qmanman> devin: what chipset?
[03:49] <mustard5> tiglionabbit, in the Edit menu of your nautilus window
[03:49] <nalioth> SlicerDicer-: system > prefs > screen saver > advanced
[03:50] <devinlew> chipset on motherboard?
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> SlicerDicer-: system -> prefs -> screensaver
[03:50] <qwerrttyy> hi, I can't boot from CD because I don't know the BIOS password. How can I make a bootdisk to an WinXP install disc or a disk that will find out my BIOS password?
[03:50] <SlicerDicer-> nalioth, ok will look I think I did before
[03:50] <gusto5> nalioth, where is nautillis setting again?
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> mustard5: there isn't a setting for it in there
[03:50] <qmanman> devin: no wireless care chipset
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> even if I don't have the "always open a new window" thing checked, it still opens a new window sometimes
[03:50] <devinlew> ahh..lemme see
[03:50] <mustard5> tiglionabbit, Edit>>Preferences>>Behaviour (tab)
[03:51] <bluefoxicy> qwerrttyy:  erase your CMOS?
[03:51] <qmanman> devinlew: that would be a good place to start ("lspci")
[03:51] <nalioth> gusto5: should be right off the menu bar (i dont use nautilus)
[03:51] <WTF_China> i can get .wmvs working but not asf
[03:51] <WTF_China> what is my problem
[03:51] <qwerrttyy> bluefoxicy, ah, which means take out battery for how long till it loses charge?
[03:51] <SlicerDicer-> nalioth, tiglionabbit, that does not have it :/ not on breezy with kde
[03:51] <gusto5> tiglionabbit,
[03:51] <bluefoxicy> qwerrttyy:  in Linux you should be able to blank /dev/nvram, but then you have to reconfigure your bios; if you know what you're doing that's ok though
[03:51] <devinlew> qmanman..its a linksys...wpc11...i dunno the chipset
[03:51] <mustard5> tiglionabbit, ah ok sorry
[03:51] <nalioth> WTF_China: you need mmsclient to download the wmv the asf points to
[03:51] <qmanman> devinlet: search google for driver support first
[03:52] <tiglionabbit> oh I see
[03:52] <tiglionabbit> when I do check that, it uses a different type of window
[03:52] <qmanman> damn it I cant seem to get your nick right.....
[03:52] <gusto5> tiglionabbit, applications > configuartion editor > apps > nautillis > preferences > check off always_use_browser i think
[03:52] <bluefoxicy> qwerrttyy:  modprobe nvram and then cat /dev/zero > /dev/nvram, for the daring only.  Or pop the battery for 5 minutes; or bridge the CMOS CLR jumper on your motherboard
[03:52] <tiglionabbit> nifty
[03:52] <leetcharmer> OH! I've got a GOOD question, deals with Linksys Print Servers, who's up for the challenge?
[03:52] <robotgeek> qmanman: use tab completion
[03:52] <WTF_China> nalioth, how do i get mmsclient
[03:52] <qmanman> robot: thought xchat had it on by default =p
[03:52] <tiglionabbit> gusto5: I got it.  It was just the opposite of what I thought the checkbox did
[03:52] <qwerrttyy> bluefoxicy, I don't know any of the IRQ stuff, I have a 98 AMIBIOS
[03:52] <gusto5> tiglionabbit, ok hahahah :P
[03:52] <leetcharmer> I need help setting up my wireless printserver to access my printer :D
[03:52] <robotgeek> qmanman: it doesn't?
[03:52] <gusto5> tiglionabbit, dont worry. i made that same mistake too :P
[03:53] <leetcharmer> :/ ubuntu doesn't seem to like it
[03:53] <bluefoxicy> qwerrttyy:  ouch.  You have ISA devices?
[03:53] <qmanman> robot: seems not
[03:53] <qmanman> :-)
[03:53] <WTF_China> nalioth, how do i get mmsclient
[03:53] <tiglionabbit> gusto5: they should change it, I think..  it's confusing
[03:53] <qwerrttyy> bluefoxicy, don't think I have any plugged in, lemme check
[03:53] <gusto5> tiglionabbit, if you check off the thing i mentioned
[03:53] <gusto5> it should work
[03:53] <boxerboy> what it the command to change names?
[03:53] <gusto5> it works forme
[03:53] <gusto5> boxerboy, /nick <name>
[03:53] <gusto5> :P
[03:53] <qmanman> anyone up on tweaking AMD Powernow settings at all?
[03:53] <gusto5> unless you mean in 5.10 :P
[03:53] <tiglionabbit> is there a way to report a bug for this as just a misleading setting?
[03:53] <gusto5> gnomefreak, is that waht you want?
[03:53] <nalioth> WTF_China: enable your repos and have a look
[03:54] <mustard5> tiglionabbit, it seems if you tick that open in browser thing it opens it in the file browser
[03:54] <mustard5> tiglionabbit, which has a 'tree' menu on the left
[03:54] <WTF_China> nalioth, i have, but i cant find it
[03:54] <photomatt> matt from wordpress here, could anyone point me in the direction of getting ubuntu to recognize more than 4 GB of memory?
[03:54] <tiglionabbit> yeah
[03:54] <mustard5> tiglionabbit, might make life easier, I dont know
[03:54] <nalioth> WTF_China: watch ubotu
[03:54] <gnomefreak> gusto5 yes it was thank you
[03:54] <gusto5> tiglionabbit, makes life easier for me :)
[03:54] <nalioth> !info mimms
[03:54] <ubotu> mimms: (MMS (mms://) streaming media download utility), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.0.9-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 12 kB, Installed size: 84 kB
[03:55] <qwerrttyy> bluefoxicy, this box inparticular has only one ISA slot and two PCI, all the stuff I use so far has been that AT ribbon stuff that's plugged into the board
[03:55] <robotgeek> photomatt: hi, great job on wordpress. does your motherboard support it?
[03:55] <qwerrttyy> bluefoxicy, so, if I installed an ISA card on it, I would have to reconfigure the BIOS anyways?
[03:55] <WTF_China> i found it
[03:55] <WTF_China> thanks nalioth
[03:55] <gnomefreak> i dont see any settings in bitchx to change the default name
[03:55] <gusto5> hello goodthink!!!
[03:55] <jrattner1> Is there a news ticker for gnome? (like the knewsticker)
[03:55] <qmanman> man I cant believe x.org has support for the radeon mobility X700 already
[03:56] <gusto5> goodthink, youre from Toronto! yay!
[03:56] <gusto5> qmanman, do you know if x.org has support for rage 128?
[03:56] <qmanman> man it has to that card it so old
[03:56] <photomatt> robotgeek, thanks! we had freebsd on the box before and that recognized all 8gb, if that answers your question
[03:56] <dcollamore> anyone know why I'm getting GPG errors from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[03:56] <gusto5> qmanman, lol. yep.
[03:56] <qmanman> gusto5: if not the "gatos" project has something
[03:57] <glauc> hey I was using 5.10 beta release, do I have to change my apt sources now?
[03:57] <bluefoxicy> qwerrttyy:  I don't know how ISA cards work anymore but I think the IRQ configuration is on the ISA cards themselves :)
[03:57] <WTF_China> nalioth, how do i work mmsnclient now
[03:57] <glauc> all my packages fail to download with a 404
[03:57] <gusto5> dcollamore, /msg ubotu gpgerr
[03:57] <gusto5> thanks qmanman
[03:57] <nalioth> WTF_China: in a terminal "man mimms"
[03:58] <Ron_o> does linux/ubuntu allow the use of the Dvorak keyboard?
[03:58] <robotgeek> photomatt:hmm, if freebsd can, so must linux :) lemme see if i can find anything
[03:58] <notChankster> dooglus: Heres the exact error "I will disable this X server for now.  Restart GDM when it is configured correctly"
[03:58] <nalioth> Ron_o: yes it does
[03:58] <qwerrttyy> So if I reset my CMOS the worst that can happen is I have to reconfigure ISA cards?
[03:58] <Discipulus> what's the dvorak keyboard?
[03:58] <] BreliC[> well, after hours of research on the disappearing CUPSD, i've given up...
[03:58] <jrattner1> Is there a news ticker for gnome? similar to knewticker
[03:58] <gusto5> ] BreliC[, what printer?
[03:58] <jrattner1> or rss scroller
[03:58] <] BreliC[> lexmark z605
[03:58] <nalioth> WTF_China: i dont advocate illegally downloading things, but if you google "mmsclient" you'll find some things of interest
[03:58] <] BreliC[> it worked yesterday
[03:58] <gusto5> ] BreliC[, what happens? the cusped disappears after you get it?!
[03:59] <Ron_o> Discipulus: a rarely used keyboard that is much more efficient than the qwerty one.
[03:59] <nalioth> jrattner1: use your synaptic's "search" function
[03:59] <gnomefreak> #bitchx
[03:59] <redrose> how woud i go about setting up a pop/SMTP server, what is the deamon that i would use?
[03:59] <] BreliC[> gusto5, then all of a sudden, the cupsd no longer appears to be running, even though there is no error when i restart it
[03:59] <gusto5> ] BreliC[, that is insanely weird.
[03:59] <gusto5> ] BreliC[, can you add it back on?
[03:59] <redrose> sorry
[03:59] <bluefoxicy> qwerrttyy:  I'd just blank out /dev/nvram and reboot, enter bios setup, reconfigure it.
[03:59] <redrose> how do i setup a mail server?
[04:00] <qmanman> anyone has success with converting rpms to debs with the "alien" program?
[04:00] <Spitzer20> ubuntu 5.10 looks a little freshened up but no big changes right?
[04:00] <OPP> hello
[04:00] <OPP> i have a major problem
[04:00] <Spitzer20> the next one prolly should be really nice :)
[04:00] <] BreliC[> gusto5, can't seem to, no.  really strange
[04:00] <informant> redrose: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_5.04
[04:00] <gusto5> ] BreliC[, i dont know either. but at least your printer kinda works :). ive been on it for months :D
[04:00] <robotgeek> photomatt: is it a 32 bit or 64 bit?
[04:00] <OPP> i installed ubuntu but after that when it boots it stops and says cant find /tty or something. can someone help me??
[04:00] <redrose> lol, i just want to know a deamon name
[04:01] <muszek> hi.  I've just reinstalled breezy (had hoary before) and I always get 403: forbidden if I point to localhost/filename (apache2 installed).  any clues?
[04:01] <informant> redrose: um, postfix for smtp (postfix-tls), dovecot (or courier-imap, etc.) for IMAP/POP3
[04:01] <] BreliC[> gusto5, ouch!
[04:01] <redrose> sorry, but what is IMAP?
[04:01] <gusto5> ] BreliC[, it JUST DOESNT PRINT :P ive actually given up.
[04:01] <] BreliC[> gusto5, well, it no longer works now.. it says The CUPS server could not be contacted... which makes sense because it doesn't appear to be running
[04:02] <OPP> can anyone help me?
[04:02] <informant> redrose: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP
[04:02] <] BreliC[> gusto5, frustrating, isn't it?
[04:02] <redrose> lol, ty
[04:02] <Ron_o> i think I'm going to just order a CD of ubuntu, because I can't get mine to record.......anything!
[04:02] <qmanman> so who has some tips for installing the drivers from ati?
[04:02] <gusto5> ] BreliC[, oh yea. :)
[04:02] <photomatt> robotgeek, 64-bit xeons
[04:02] <gusto5> qmanman, you find some? let me know :)
[04:02] <OPP> i installed ubuntu but after that when it boots it stops and says cant find /tty or something. can someone help me??
[04:02] <robotgeek> photomatt: and are you running a smp kernel, uname -a
[04:02] <notChankster> Well I have broken my XServer and dont know how to fix it!
[04:02] <qmanman> gusto5: well I'm about to venture off and take the plunge
[04:03] <KJoy> Can someone answer a question for me?
[04:03] <Hobbsee> KJoy: not until you ask it
[04:03] <treyh0> heh http://www.whiprush.org/2005/10/real_men_of_gen.html
[04:03] <gusto5> qmanman, ok. take care
[04:03] <KJoy> If I install the 64bit version of Ubuntu, can I only install 64 bit apps?
[04:03] <jrattner1> Nalioth i was able to find straw but that isnt for the task bar
[04:03] <Habbie> KJoy: no, 32bits apps should still work
[04:03] <Remmelas> I've got an issue... with synaptic, apt-get, and installing anything.  basically, anything i try to install (or nearly) results in a mess of unresolvable depencancies
[04:03] <treyh0> who is he talking about
[04:03] <OPP> does anyone know??
[04:03] <OPP> why it says
[04:03] <gusto5> ] BreliC[, whats the printer again? and try ubuntuforums, mabye someone will help you there
[04:03] <KJoy> HABBIE: so I do not need to port them any differently?
[04:03] <Remmelas> anyone that can help me troubleshoot
[04:03] <jrattner1> nevermind
[04:03] <Remmelas> ?
[04:03] <epsas_> eek
[04:03] <notChankster> Can someone help me fix my XServer-XOrg?
[04:04] <Habbie> KJoy: usually there's no problem
[04:04] <OPP> anyone know why it says /tty cant be found!!!???
[04:04] <epsas_> i tried to /msg ubotu but...
[04:04] <epsas_> 19:10 [freenode2]  -!- Private messages from unregistered users are currently
[04:04] <epsas_>           blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer.
[04:04] <epsas_>           Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[04:04] <epsas_> '
[04:04] <OPP> anyone know why it says /tty cant be found!!!???
[04:04] <photomatt> robotgeek, uname -a returns: Linux db2.wordpress.com 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Tue Oct 4 18:44:03 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:04] <KJoy> HABBIE: So I just install them as normal under the 64bit OS?
[04:04] <OPP> and then doenst boot up
[04:04] <epsas_> so I can't /msg ubuto to find out about the GPG error =/
[04:04] <nalioth> epsas_: see /topic
[04:04] <robotgeek> epsas_: don't paste in here
[04:04] <OPP> OMG
[04:04] <bimberi> !gpgerr
[04:04] <ubotu> If you get GPG errors when accessing the Ubuntu archives, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* (Yes, you will get some 'is a directory' messages, that's fine) then wait 10 minutes and retry.
[04:04] <nalioth> epsas_: /msg nickserv help register
[04:04] <Hobbsee> epsas_: register then, it's not that hard
[04:04] <notChankster> Can someone help me fix my XServer-XOrg?
[04:04] <epsas_> Hobbsee - Fuck Yourself.
[04:04] <epsas_> =)
[04:04] <gusto5> epsas_, /ns help register
[04:04] <vegasfam> hahah
[04:04] <gusto5> epsas_, language man
[04:04] <gusto5> language
[04:05] <OPP> can someone help me!!!
[04:05] <gusto5> Hobbsee is just helping you, so back off.
[04:05] <treyh0> lol
[04:05] <] BreliC[> gusto5, Lexmark z605.  it worked in Hoary without a hitch, and in Breezy for a few days... but now nothing
[04:05] <Hobbsee> i thought you had to register to get in here anyway...unless it's changed
[04:05] <robotgeek> photomatt: i think it's not seeing only 4GB of memory as you are running a 32 bit kernel. try getting a 64 bit kernel, and you should be fine
[04:05] <] BreliC[> i'll look in the forums, thanks
[04:05] <notChankster> Can someone help me fix my XServer-XOrg?
[04:05] <n0odl3> oh my gosh when i changed to kde my booksmarks got wiped
[04:05] <gusto5> ] BreliC[, np. ill try to help you. i hvae an okidata OL600e FYI :)
[04:05] <treyh0> notChankster: i will, my paypall acct is...
[04:05] <treyh0> jk
[04:05] <n0odl3> the splash screen for firefox also got wiped
[04:05] <notChankster> lol
[04:06] <n0odl3> is this normal?
[04:06] <KJoy> HABBIE: Will I notice any difference between the 64 bit OS vs the 32 bit?
[04:06] <notChankster> treyh0: can you help me?
[04:06] <gusto5> lol treyh0. dont blow your recieve limit in paypal now :)
[04:06] <Habbie> KJoy: depends on the application
[04:06] <KJoy> habbie: sounds good.
[04:06] <KJoy> see you guys later.
[04:06] <Habbie> KJoy: you'll notice when you run into limitations, really
[04:06] <nalioth> epsas_: do you like it here in this channel?
[04:06] <Habbie> KJoy: until then, just don't worry about it
[04:06] <KJoy> time to download 5.10 and do a format c: :)
[04:06] <treyh0> notChankster: cd /var/log
[04:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell epsas_ about conduct
[04:06] <epsas_> nalioth - eh?
[04:06] <treyh0> less Xorg.0.log
[04:06] <treyh0> push G to go to the bottom
[04:06] <gusto5> lol KJoy. dont have to do that btw.
[04:06] <photomatt> robotgeek, I'll try that, thank you very much!
[04:07] <treyh0> scroll up some to look for errors and tell us what the error is
[04:07] <dooglus> does anyone know of a bittorrent client which can download just one file from a multi-file torrent without allocating space for the rest?
[04:07] <robotgeek> photomatt: np :)
[04:07] <nalioth> epsas_: it is considered polite to read the /topic when you enter a chat room
[04:07] <KJoy> I will have to remember this channel.  thanks guys
[04:07] <goodthink> anyone know if there is a bug/known issue with wirless pppoe and ubuntu?
[04:07] <gusto5> yep
[04:07] <gusto5> dooglus, that isnt possible.
[04:07] <robotgeek> dooglus: azurues or rufus http://rufus.sf.net
[04:07] <epsas_> nalioth - are you looking for drama or something?
[04:07] <nalioth> epsas_: is is also considered very rude to curse at folks who are only here to help you
[04:07] <photomatt> robotgeek, if you want an invite to wordpress.com or anything, let me know
[04:07] <gusto5> dooglus, you're better off finding a torrrent for the one file
[04:07] <dooglus> robotgeek: I know azureus can't do that
[04:08] <tiglionabbit> augh, what's this.  I'm getting bad gpg keys from us.archive.ubuntu.com.   from each url.  But this is a while since that problem happened
[04:09] <robotgeek> photomatt: thanks to carthik -> nalioth :)
[04:09] <tiglionabbit> I'm gonna be distributing breezy CDs.  I hope it doesn't give them those repositories by default
[04:09] <dooglus> gusto5: that's nonsense.
[04:09] <ajmitch_> nalioth: thanks, you're quicker than I am :)
[04:09] <treyh0> everyone be on the best behavior cause the ops are undercover ;)
[04:09] <robotgeek> :)
[04:09] <photomatt> robotgeek, awesome. :)
[04:09] <n0odl3> tiglionabbit do you know how to fix those repos?
[04:09] <dooglus> gusto5: whether to pre-allocate or not is up to the client
[04:09] <mknisely> I'll try removing the US.  Thanks!
[04:09] <gusto5> dooglus, if you think so. even if you could, youre better off just finding the torrent for the one file
[04:09] <treyh0> n0odl3: /topic
[04:09] <nalioth> robotgeek: i didnt do it
[04:09] <robotgeek> nalioth: you invited me :)
[04:09] <gusto5> dooglus, right. but that's NOT the given inforation from your .torrent file
[04:09] <n0odl3> how do i change to another mirror?
[04:09] <ajmitch_> treyh0: everyone should always be on their best behaviour :)
[04:10] <tiglionabbit> n0odl3: do I know how to fix the actual repositories?  Of course not.  But I know how to use different ones
[04:10] <muszek> can somebody please help me with apache2 configuration?
[04:10] <robotgeek> cause the ops are always undercover :)
[04:10] <n0odl3> tiglionabbit how do i use different ones?
[04:10] <treyh0> so like
[04:10] <n0odl3> how do i change to different mirrors?
[04:10] <treyh0> would i get in trouble if i advertise support services here?
[04:10] <] BreliC[> gusto5, what do i have to set on the server side to allow network printing?  only to allow the LAN location (near the bottom of the cupsd.conf)?
[04:10] <treyh0> apparently there are a lot of people who need help[
[04:10] <robotgeek> !tell n0odl3 about repos
[04:10] <nalioth> treyh0: lurk and wait for a question you can answer
[04:11] <treyh0> and besides programming linux stuff all day thats all i do is help my support team
[04:11] <tiglionabbit> n0odl3: in synaptic, under Settings->Repositories, click on one, then hit Edit, and change it from http://us.archive.ubuntu etc to http://archive.ubuntu etc
[04:11] <treyh0> nalioth: i can answer them all ;
[04:11] <gusto5> ] BreliC[, that sounds right. i never got that far :)
[04:11] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[04:11] <tiglionabbit> n0odl3: you'll have to do it for each repository listed
[04:11] <treyh0> the question is, "do i want to?"
[04:11] <robotgeek> photomatt: let me know if it works :)
[04:11] <gusto5> nono n0odl3
[04:11] <gusto5> dont do that :p
[04:11] <n0odl3> nono?
[04:11] <glauc> how do I update from Hoary to Breezy?
[04:11] <EnsignRedshirt> In warty, I used audacity to record sounds.  I'm having trouble getting recording to work in breezy.
[04:11] <gusto5> tiglionabbit, is crazy :p
[04:11] <tiglionabbit> I am?
[04:11] <tiglionabbit> why not do that?
[04:12] <treyh0> irc is fun
[04:12] <treyh0> yay
[04:12] <nalioth> treyh0: first thing is to register so you can have ubotu help you
[04:12] <tiglionabbit> I just did it and it worked for me
[04:12] <gusto5> n0odl3, change them by gedeting /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:12] <gusto5> tiglionabbit, it works, but its completely inefficient :)
[04:12] <treyh0> nalioth: oh thats why the punk was ignoring me earlier
[04:12] <treyh0> nalioth: cant remember my 5000000th password :/
[04:12] <tiglionabbit> gusto5: well yeah, but it gives least possibility of screwing up
[04:12] <glauc> how do I update from Hoary to Breezy?
[04:12] <tiglionabbit> gusto5: he'd have to sudo gedit the file.  And breezy still has no way of doing that via gui, does it?
[04:12] <treyh0> glauc: there is a wiki article at wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:13] <n0odl3> tiglionabbit you mean the url?
[04:13] <gusto5> tiglionabbit, true say. sorry, i take the crazy comment back :)
[04:13] <glauc> thanks I will read it
[04:13] <EnsignRedshirt> To used the microphone, what else do I have to do besides enabling it in the Also Mixer (i.e. volume control)?
[04:13] <n0odl3> for me it says the cd rom of hoary?
[04:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell glauc about update2breezy
[04:13] <n0odl3> what do i edit?
[04:13] <robotgeek> n0odl3: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:13] <gusto5> n0odl3, listen to tiglionabbit. IM crazy :)
[04:13] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, is it unmuted in the volume tool in your tray?
[04:13] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, the mic I mean
[04:14] <tiglionabbit> n0odl3: uh, yeah, the url it shows when you hit edit
[04:14] <tiglionabbit> n0odl3: the us server seems to have problems often.  Dunno why
[04:14] <Habbie> EnsignRedshirt: I love your nickname :)
[04:14] <gusto5> n0odl3, follow this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[04:14] <tiglionabbit> er, URI is what it says there I guess =P
[04:14] <gusto5> THAT'll help you :)
[04:14] <n0odl3> for somereason tiglion the url tells me its using the "hoary cd:
[04:14] <MonkeyINAbaG> anyone here not having their questions answered? (i just joined)
[04:14] <tarvid> msg nickserv identify carmen
[04:14] <robotgeek> tarvid: /msg :)
[04:14] <MutinyTunes> hi :)  i keep getting a lot of messages like this when trying to apt-get install something...  i have the 'universe multiverse' line uncommented from /etc/apt/sources.list and I'm using breezy --   apache2-mpm-prefork: Depends: apache2-common (= 2.0.54-4ubuntu2) but 2.0.54-5ubuntu2 is to be installed
[04:14] <tiglionabbit> n0odl3: oh, don't edit that one!  That's a CD
[04:14] <n0odl3> ok
[04:14] <robotgeek> tarvid: and use a different password :)
[04:14] <n0odl3> then what do i edit?
[04:15] <glauc> ubotu, update2breezy?
[04:15] <ubotu> glauc: Are you smoking crack?
[04:15] <EnsignRedshirt> mustard5: If you mean in "Volume Control: Intel ICH5 (Alsa Mixer)" (which is the window that pops up when I double-click the volume icon in the top panel), yes.
[04:15] <tarvid> too much butter on the popcorn
[04:15] <glauc> ubotu, tell glauc about update2breezy?
[04:15] <MutinyTunes> notice the 4ubuntu2 vs 5ubuntu2 stuff.  how do i remedy that?
[04:15] <kethinov> anyone know a good code editor for gnome similar to kate?
[04:15] <glauc> ubotu, tell glauc about update2breezy
[04:15] <tiglionabbit> n0odl3: the ones that get things from the internet.  On mine, I deleted the CD repository so I can throw it away and just get stuff off the net
[04:15] <nalioth> glauc: look to your private messages
[04:15] <robotgeek> kethinov: gedit/gvim :)
[04:15] <glauc> I see it but the bot doesnt know about it
[04:15] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, in audacity..is the recording level set properly and the input device selected?
[04:15] <gusto5> tiglionabbit, how come you got cd repositories?
[04:15] <glauc> got it
[04:15] <glauc> thx
[04:15] <tarvid> firefox loads totem for .rm files, how do i get it to load realplayer?
[04:15] <tiglionabbit> gusto5: what?
[04:16] <kethinov> robotgeek, gedit too simple, *vim too complex
[04:16] <gusto5> tiglionabbit, im just curious if you know why some ppl have a cd repository option and others dont
[04:16] <informant> ubotu: tell informant about update2breezy
[04:16] <n0odl3> do i edit http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[04:16] <n0odl3> to the archive things?
[04:16] <tiglionabbit> gusto5: well if you installed via CD, it should put a CD repository on there by default
[04:16] <gusto5> n0odl3, follow => https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[04:16] <tiglionabbit> gusto5: but most people like me just delete it
[04:16] <EnsignRedshirt> mustard5: ...checking...
[04:16] <som1> guys i have a problem, i kinda got this package (realtime-lsm and realtime-lsm-source), it wont lemme get realtime-lsm-module and now i get 5fps on glxgears (i use a geforce 5500fx)
[04:16] <som1> ..
[04:16] <MutinyTunes> what is the deal with all this 5ubuntu2 crap appended to all these apt packages, anyways????????
[04:16] <n0odl3> tiglionabbit do i change that address too?
[04:16] <informant> so.. what is update2breezy?
[04:17] <gusto5> oh ok tiglionabbit. i dont know because i updated off 5.04.
[04:17] <EnsignRedshirt> MutinyTunes: That means they've experienced ubunut love...
[04:17] <treyh0> ubuntu love?
[04:17] <EnsignRedshirt> s/ubunut/ubuntu/  .
[04:17] <treyh0> i thought those backgrounds were banned now
[04:17] <nalioth> MutinyTunes: version strings
[04:17] <dooglus> gusto5: apparently the CVS version of azureus doesn't pre-allocate files you don't download
[04:17] <treyh0> the nekked ones
[04:17] <gusto5> n0odl3, are you following =>
[04:17] <gusto5> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[04:17] <gusto5> really, dooglus? my bad then.
[04:17] <MutinyTunes> well i figured.  but why does my apt-get installs keep complaining about it?
[04:17] <MutinyTunes> getting lines such as this:   apache2-mpm-prefork: Depends: apache2-common (= 2.0.54-4ubuntu2) but 2.0.54-5ubuntu2 is to be installed
[04:18] <gusto5> dooglus, ive always interepeted a fill torrent set as a "download"
[04:18] <inlivingcolour> hello everyone
[04:18] <dooglus> gusto5: I'm downloading it - I'll let you know how it goes
[04:18] <tiglionabbit> n0odl3: what, the CD?  No.  All you want to do is look for repositories that have "us." in them and remove that
[04:18] <tiglionabbit> assuming you're in the US and that's the repository that's breaking on you
[04:18] <tiglionabbit> I guess I never asked which repository was the problem =P
[04:18] <gusto5> dooglus, sure thing. my bad, again :)
[04:18] <Remmelas> does anyone have a clean(or nearly so) sources.list file for breezy?
[04:18] <som1> ive never seen anything so pathetic
[04:18] <som1> HELP !?
[04:18] <nalioth> MutinyTunes: cuz you've probably used non ubuntu repos
[04:18] <tiglionabbit> gusto5: I upgraded too, and deleted the CD repository in the process
[04:18] <gusto5> Remmelas, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[04:18] <mustard5> !tell Remmelas about sources
[04:18] <MutinyTunes> i mean.  i have a super fresh out of the box install and have just done the standard thing to get universe and multiverse.  so i can imagine this is a problem for a large number of users.
[04:18] <gusto5> tiglionabbit, thats odd. i dont have'em :P
[04:18] <inlivingcolour> quick question....when i went to burn a cd, i accidently deleted the folder i wanted to burn.  would i be able to recover that folder?
[04:18] <gusto5> tiglionabbit, oh wait i know why. i probably pasted over them when i did https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[04:18] <MutinyTunes> nalioth, i've done no such thing.
[04:18] <Remmelas> tyvm both of u
[04:19] <melvztechie> hello guys: how do i copy error messages to gedit from synaptic terminal after installing packages
[04:19] <tiglionabbit> gusto5: yeah if you edited the file, you would have.  It's generally the first line of the file
[04:19] <gusto5> tiglionabbit, ok. thanks for  clearing that up
[04:19] <mustard5> melvztechie, good question ..I don't know :)
[04:19] <MutinyTunes> i fucked up.  i should have just gone with straight debian.
[04:19] <jorgp> what do I need to do to get bash completion working?
[04:20] <som1> guys? im getting 5fps with glxgears
[04:20] <nalioth> MutinyTunes: just a possibility. and it only needs be done once (it can come back and bite you)
[04:20] <tiglionabbit> jorgp: press tab
[04:20] <treyh0> MutinyTunes: yeah ,or bought suse
[04:20] <melvztechie> mustard5: i tried right-click on the terminal but paste in gedit doesnt work?
[04:20] <jorgp> tiglionabbit: it does nothing but beep
[04:20] <robotgeek> photomatt: are u using a live cd, if so try the AMD-64 cd. (i belive it would work if your xeon's have EM64T extension). I am not sure what it means, i've never used a 64bit os :)
[04:20] <MutinyTunes> nalioth, the only thing i've done is uncommented the 'universe' line in sources.list  I just installed this thing today!
[04:20] <robotgeek> melvztechie: the file is read only?
[04:20] <Black_Bishop> Anyone else having what appear to be sudo problems in 5.10?  It asks me for my password and then the application says it's starting, then dies.  Then it won't start any other sudo-ed app until after a restart.
[04:20] <mustard5> melvztechie, yeah...someone yesterday took a screenshot and pasted in in pastebin...but the image was huge :)
[04:20] <Severian> melvztechie, try the middle button
[04:20] <nalioth> MutinyTunes: then you have an interesting problem
[04:21] <MutinyTunes> i can imagine i have a problem that a myriad of users have experienced.
[04:21] <tiglionabbit> jorgp: it should work by default.  It tries to complete the names of files in the directory.  Try making a file first, and see if it will complete that file's name.  (example: touch testfile)
[04:21] <nalioth> MutinyTunes: most likely associated with the repos and their quirkyness atm
[04:21] <melvztechie> guys: i just have 2-button mouse:)
[04:21] <photomatt> robotgeek, nope, this is on a remote server, all I have is shell
[04:21] <Amaranth> nalioth: want to test the latest version of alacarte (smeg)?
[04:21] <Severian> melvztechie, press both buttons at once.  That is the same as button 3 on most systems.
[04:21] <jorgp> tiglionabbit: nope, does not work, I have breezy on the laptop works good, but bash complete and sound does not work here
[04:21] <Amaranth> nalioth: I've made quite a few changes since yesterday
[04:21] <nalioth> Amaranth: yes sure thing
[04:22] <robotgeek> photomatt: hmm, so are u doing a netinstall?
[04:22] <mustard5> melvztechie, if you take a screenshot and paste it in the pastebin, try to reduce the kb size a bit :)
[04:22] <melvztechie> Severian: hello, it worked, thanks man!!
[04:22] <nalioth> Amaranth: i've made some changes, too
[04:22] <tiglionabbit> =[  dunno jorgp.  Works for me
[04:22] <EnsignRedshirt> mustard5: I cranked up the volume of the Mic in Volume Control, and in Audacity, and still no response.
[04:22] <Amaranth> nalioth: http://dev.realistanew.com/alacarte-0.8beta1.tar.gz
[04:22] <melvztechie> mustard5: your the man;) hhehhe tanks
[04:22] <photomatt> robotgeek, someone else installed it, I'm just trying to make it work now
[04:22] <Amaranth> nalioth: extract then run alacarte-0.8/src/alacarte
[04:23] <sampan> when i try to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop -- i get an error about "broken packages" -- x-window-system-core -- but looking in synaptic shows no broken packages.  ??
[04:23] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, and input is 'mic' just to the left of record levels?
[04:23] <dabaR> So, whats new?
[04:23] <EnsignRedshirt> mustard5: Yes.
[04:23] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, last question to eliminate other simple problems...is the mic plugged in ;)
[04:23] <som1> can you guys stop ignoring me?
[04:23] <robotgeek> photomatt: oh okay, then you might have to do a kernel recompile. i think
[04:23] <n0odl3> arrgh! my keys are still broken!
[04:24] <CarlK> what is the breezy way to do ff java plugin?
[04:24] <n0odl3> even after switching the mirrors!
[04:24] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, hmmm..I'm runing out of answers :)
[04:24] <som1> ANYONE?!
[04:24] <dabaR> som1: If you feel ignored, that is most likely due to the fact that noone has anything to tell you.
[04:24] <EnsignRedshirt> mustard5: Yup :)  But go ahead and ask more "dumb" questions, since it might be something like that :)
[04:24] <nalioth> som1: if you'll type less griping and more questions, ....
[04:24] <robotgeek> photomatt: or install the amd-64 version of ubuntu
[04:24] <som1> about time!
[04:24] <crimsun> CarlK: download a jre/jdk and use java-package from multiverse to create a deb. Installing the deb creates the necessary symlinks automatically.
[04:24] <som1> hello!
[04:24] <som1> people here!
[04:24] <som1> :<
[04:24] <dabaR> How are you?
[04:24] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, when it loads up do you get any error messages about sound devices?
[04:24] <nalioth> som1: people cant do anything with "someone?!"
[04:24] <tiglionabbit> som1: we're talking to you already
[04:24] <Severian> soml, congratulations.
[04:25] <som1> yay.
[04:25] <som1> now i got all the attention i need.
[04:25] <Habbie> som1: try to start by making sense; maybe then you'll get help :)
[04:25] <help> treyh0: I found the error in the Xorg.0.log
[04:25] <Hobbsee_> som1: you might want to check this out, sometime http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[04:25] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, I'm going to load up audacity and have a look...brb
[04:25] <som1> so, i got this thing called realtime-lsm and realtime-lsm-source, jack, qjackctl and that.
[04:25] <budreefer> hey every1
[04:25] <som1> and now, i get 5fps with glxgears.
[04:26] <treyh0> Chankster: stop changing nicks
[04:26] <treyh0> Chankster: what is the error
[04:26] <dabaR> som1 unget them or something.
[04:26] <treyh0> privmsg me if u like ;)
[04:26] <louis> hi all
[04:26] <gusto5> hi louis
[04:26] <treyh0> they might ban you if you paste in here
[04:26] <EnsignRedshirt> mustard5: Not currently.  I was getting errors, so disabled "Sound events" and "Enable sound server at startup" in System->Preferences->Sound.
[04:26] <crimsun> treyh0: only if you flood repeatedly.
[04:26] <som1> i cant, it says "unable to lock the adminstration directory (/var/lb/dpkg/), is another process using it?" :<
[04:26] <disasm> i dont get it zsnes was working perfect last night, and now it dies whenever I pass it the -m switch (disable gui)
[04:27] <EnsignRedshirt> mustard5: hmmm... maybe I need the sound server to be started up...
[04:27] <som1> lets see.
[04:27] <som1> DIE EVIL.
[04:27] <CarlK> crimsun, is there a ubuntu wiki page on this (installing java plugin)
[04:27] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, you on breezy?
[04:27] <dabaR> som1: close the process using it.
[04:27] <n0odl3> yes now it worked
[04:27] <EnsignRedshirt> mustard5: Yes.
[04:27] <n0odl3> no gpg error!
[04:27] <crimsun> CarlK: yes, RestrictedFormats
[04:27] <dabaR> som1: usually synaptic.
[04:27] <gusto5> lol n0odl3 :)
[04:27] <n0odl3> the german one works!
[04:27] <gusto5> LOL :P
[04:27] <crimsun> CarlK: there are links to the jre/jdk of choice
[04:27] <som1> nothing was using it, i just removed the lock file
[04:27] <robotgeek> som1: do a lsof /var/lib/dpkg in a terminal , and kill the process
[04:27] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, one more simple answer..does you mic have a switch on it for on and off?
[04:28] <n0odl3> Fetched 3382kB in 27s (123kB/s)
[04:28] <n0odl3> Reading package lists... Done
[04:28] <tarvid> how do i get firefox to open the right application for .rm?
[04:28] <n0odl3> does this mean update is successful?
[04:28] <EnsignRedshirt> mustard5: No, just a cheap $10 GE mic.
[04:28] <gusto5> n0odl3, yea.
[04:28] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, some have volume control and on/off switch on the cord
[04:28] <mustard5> k
[04:28] <n0odl3> w007
[04:28] <n0odl3> thank you
[04:28] <Chankster> treyh0: I PM'ed you
[04:28] <djjason> is there a way to enable the remote desktop in command line
[04:29] <gusto5> horray.
[04:29] <gusto5> main repos are fixed :)
[04:29] <CarlK> crimsun, first thing on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats errors:  "E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate"
[04:29] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, my sound server and sound events are off
[04:29] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, both off
[04:29] <Severian> djjason, do you want to set up a cron job to enable vnc at certain times?
[04:29] <Chankster> treyh0: I PM'ed you
[04:30] <treyh0> Chankster: i sent you like 50 messages so far
[04:30] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, I have a default sound card setting after that....you might check that too
[04:30] <Chankster> im not seeing anything
[04:30] <tiglionabbit> tarvid: check out the MultimediaPlugins extension for firefox at http://addons.mozilla.org
[04:30] <dabaR> CarlK: where are you trying to get Java from?
[04:30] <hectorC> Hello! Could someone help me? I need to patch the ati driver inside xorg in order to fix something in my system... do I have to rebuild the whole xorg package or is thre a way for only rebuilding the xserver-xorg-driver-ati package?
[04:30] <robotgeek> mustard5: can u go to System -> Preferences -> Multimedia Prefs Selector, and do the check there
[04:30] <melvztechie> guys: whats the problem with this error? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3276
[04:30] <treyh0> ok well, i saw them, first do u have an nvidia video card?
[04:30] <Chankster> yes
[04:30] <Jemte> does ubuntu support ISA
[04:30] <Habbie> Jemte: yes
[04:31] <Chankster> treyh0: nVidia 66000GT
[04:31] <tr3vis> jas anyonr been able to get boa constructor installed?
[04:31] <treyh0> Chankster: edit /etc/X11/Xorg.conf and search for a line that contains FBDev
[04:31] <djjason> Severian, I just want to enable vnc so I can connect to the machine via vnc...and currently I can ssh into the machine
[04:31] <dabaR> hectorC: well, maybe you need the source, I dont know.
[04:31] <zakame> is there a pdf to M$ .doc converter?
[04:31] <CarlK> dabaR, im just following the wiki page, havn't tried anything but the apt-get
[04:31] <treyh0> should be like Option          "UseFBDev"              "true" or something
[04:31] <treyh0> commend it out
[04:31] <treyh0> comment
[04:31] <djjason> Severian, so thats why I was asking about command line
[04:31] <treyh0> with a "#"
[04:31] <EnsignRedshirt> mustard5: The default sound card has just one choice: Intel ICH5
[04:31] <mustard5> robotgeek, my system is working
[04:31] <dabaR> CarlK: well, let me tell you off the bat, that there is not Java in the official repos.
[04:31] <treyh0> Chankster: do you have a line like that?
[04:31] <CarlK> dabaR, if the wiki needs to be updated, then I'll update it.
[04:31] <robotgeek> mustard5: for the input selector stuff
[04:31] <Severian> If you just want to enable it, you don't need a command line.  What is your goal, so I have a better idea what to suggest?
[04:32] <Chankster> treyh0: ill have to reboot back into ubuntu
[04:32] <treyh0> dood
[04:32] <treyh0> wtf
[04:32] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, ok...I've got ALSA set up in the multimedia selector for both
[04:32] <treyh0> i am bout to go to bed
[04:32] <Chankster> treyh0: ok
[04:32] <EnsignRedshirt> mustard5: The mic worked in warty.  The volume control window in warty was much more complicated, and I seem to recall have to enable a couple things.
[04:32] <treyh0> heh
[04:32] <crimsun> CarlK: please download a jre/jdk, then download java-package, then execute make-jpkg passing the jre/jdk you downloaded as a parameter
[04:32] <Ilya> Does anyone know of a program that can write a cd from an iso?
[04:32] <crimsun> CarlK: that's what the wiki needs to say, essentially.
[04:32] <dooglus> Ilya: nautilus
[04:32] <hectorC> dabaR thanks for answering. yes, I know I need the source but because there is a package named xserver-xorg-driver-ati package I was wonering if there is a source package for that one
[04:32] <iteachgeeks> Ilya GnomeBaker
[04:32] <Severian> Ilya,   cdrecord
[04:33] <tarvid> tiglionabbit, realplayer is installed, the links are correct, the files are in the right directory, the ubuntu version of firefox loads totem when .rm files are selected
[04:33] <dooglus> Ilya: right-click the .iso file and say "burn to disk"
[04:33] <dabaR> CarlK: do not update it with information that ubotu provided you. Update for it to say that there is no java debs in the official repo, and that people should build their own debs, and link to the wiki page that shows how to build your own deb.
[04:33] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, if I double click on volume control and go to audio capture, I have the mic unmuted on both settings...capture and the other one
[04:33] <Amaranth> dabaR: multiverse has blackdown debs
[04:33] <dabaR> hectorC: there is source for any package.
[04:33] <budluva> anyone get their ipod to work in breezy?
[04:33] <dabaR> Amaranth: ah so really?
[04:33] <djjason> Severian, the remote desktop is not currently enabled but I want to enable it. Currently I only have ssh access to the machine.....so normally I would just enable vnc access by going to remote desktop in System preferences....but since I dont have vnc access...how can I enable it on the remote machine if I have ssh access
[04:33] <gusto5> budluva, get gtkpod
[04:33] <Severian> Ilya, I normally use k3b to do that.  It is a very nice CD burning app and it is in synaptic.
[04:34] <CarlK> so what is "the open source GIJ included with Breezy" ?
[04:34] <fez> heh
[04:34] <budluva> gusto5, is the hoary gtkpod howto the same for breezy?
[04:34] <Ilya> Found nautilus on google....
[04:34] <CarlK> ... that is mentioned on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:34] <mustard5> robotgeek, do you think he should try something other than alsa on both?
[04:34] <gusto5> budluva, it should be.
[04:34] <dooglus> Ilya: nautilus is the defauly gnome file browser.
[04:34] <EnsignRedshirt> mustard5: In my Multimedia Systems Selector, under Default Sink, I have "ESD" and under Default Source, I have "OSS".
[04:34] <Severian> djjason, ok, now I see what you need.  The suggestions I had won't work, but let me look for a moment and see if I can see what to do.
[04:35] <dabaR> CarlK: then you need to update your sources, to include multiverse
[04:35] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, I have alsa on both
[04:35] <gusto5> budluva, sudo apt-get gtkpod should do it anyhow.
[04:35] <dabaR> CarlK: it is part of the new gcc 4.0, Gnu Compiler Collection, and is the Open Source implementation of the Java compiler.
[04:35] <zakame> is there a pdf to M$ .doc converter?
[04:36] <Ilya> Oh, and I'm using Windows right now... So does k3b work on Windows?
[04:36] <gusto5> zakame, why do you need to do that? and i dont think so
[04:36] <EnsignRedshirt> mustard5: I changed them both to ALSA, but now when I try to record in audacity, I get an error.
[04:36] <mustard5> k
[04:36] <mustard5> what is the error...don't paste it in here if its big :D
[04:36] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, try #flood
[04:36] <mustard5> I'm in there
[04:37] <EnsignRedshirt> mustard5: Actually, the little button that said "Mic" before is now empty.  There are no device choices.
[04:37] <TMM> hey all
[04:37] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, I'm just about stumped now mate
[04:37] <TMM> can someone who also upgraded from hoary to breezy see if the man pages still work?
[04:37] <EnsignRedshirt> mustard5: and the error was "Error while opening sound device.  ..."
[04:37] <zakame> gusto5: because I've a paper in pdf that needs to be read by my boss as .doc :(
[04:37] <TMM> mine are broken
[04:37] <mustard5> I'm running out of options
[04:37] <TMM> man 7 undocumented doesn't work anymore either
[04:37] <TMM> but, all the manpages are there
[04:38] <LaptopZZ> does anyone use ubuntu on macppc?
[04:38] <treyh0> LaptopZZ: i did until i spilled coffee on my powerbook
[04:38] <treyh0> :(
[04:38] <mustard5> EnsignRedshirt, probably need more than that with regards to the error message can you join #flood and copy and paste it in or type it in?
[04:38] <LaptopZZ> heh, may I ask you a few questions?
[04:38] <LaptopZZ> I would cry too heh
[04:38] <treyh0> LaptopZZ: ask!!!
[04:38] <robotgeek> mustard5: no idea
[04:38] <Jemte> what exactly is the loopback interface network device
[04:38] <mustard5> robotgeek, k thanks
[04:38] <treyh0> LaptopZZ: its ok i had it for 5 years heh
[04:38] <robotgeek> LaptopZZ: i use it on ppc
[04:38] <gusto5> zakame, you in ubuntu?
[04:38] <LaptopZZ> I wanna dual boot osx and linux
[04:38] <gusto5> LaptopZZ, then do it.
[04:38] <LaptopZZ> I am getting kinda fed up with os x
[04:38] <nalioth> LaptopZZ: yes many of us
[04:38] <LaptopZZ> so when it installs grub
[04:39] <LaptopZZ> will I have OSX and linux as options?
[04:39] <TMM> Jemte, it's an interface, that... well, loops back, whatever you send to it, your system receives as well
[04:39] <nalioth> LaptopZZ: yes you will
[04:39] <yombe> Hi. Anyone knows how to get gmailfs to work in Ubuntu?
[04:39] <treyh0> no but u can edit /boot/grub/menu.list add it
[04:39] <treyh0> ...
[04:39] <LaptopZZ> also
[04:39] <crimsun> CarlK: that's the jitter included as part of GCC 4
[04:39] <treyh0> menu.lst, i mean
[04:39] <nalioth> treyh0: ??
[04:39] <LaptopZZ> it has airport extreme bullshit w/e 802.11g
[04:39] <LaptopZZ> is there a driver for it?
[04:39] <robotgeek> yombe: there's a package called gmailfs
[04:39] <robotgeek> LaptopZZ: nope
[04:39] <LaptopZZ> so basically you can't use the wireless?
[04:39] <nalioth> LaptopZZ: broadcom has released NO driver support, so no there is not
[04:39] <treyh0> LaptopZZ: only 802.11b is supported, i have one for sale... will be on ebay soon
[04:39] <LaptopZZ> ndiswrapper?
[04:39] <treyh0> unless u want it
[04:40] <nalioth> LaptopZZ: if you use a wifi dongle that is linux friendly
[04:40] <LaptopZZ> I have an ibook
[04:40] <yombe> robotgeek: I tried the package but it just won't connect. Did it work for you?
[04:40] <LaptopZZ> ibook 12"
[04:40] <nalioth> LaptopZZ: ndiswrapper is only for intel
[04:40] <LaptopZZ> no pcmcia
[04:40] <LaptopZZ> nalioth: thought so
[04:40] <nalioth> LaptopZZ: buy a usb wifi dongle that has linux support
[04:40] <LaptopZZ> nalioth kinda takes the convenice out of it
[04:40] <LaptopZZ> but is an option
[04:40] <LaptopZZ> I have 2 spare PCMCIA cards too
[04:41] <nalioth> LaptopZZ: and treyh0 doesnt know about yaboot
[04:41] <LaptopZZ> yaboot?
[04:41] <nalioth> LaptopZZ: yaboot is your bootloader
[04:41] <robotgeek> yombe: nope, i havent tried
[04:41] <LaptopZZ> I was thinking it just used grub
[04:41] <notChankster> Wow I'm so confused
[04:41] <treyh0> nalioth: oh yeah heh
[04:41] <nalioth> LaptopZZ: grub and lilo are for intel
[04:41] <nalioth> LaptopZZ: low level things are different on a mac
[04:41] <LaptopZZ> well, then I won't be using grub then heh
[04:41] <robotgeek> LaptopZZ: we also don't have ndiswrapper for wireless cards
[04:42] <cafuego_> LaptopZZ: A driver for airport extreme is under development.
[04:42] <LaptopZZ> cool, cafuego: anyway to get a exp version?
[04:42] <ericroach> i'm trying to get sound working on my laptop, it is an older one, Yamaha 715/704 chipset.  I can't find any information about this card.  I'm on breezy.  Anyone familiar with soundcard troubleshooting?
[04:42] <cafuego_> LaptopZZ: It'll probably be a few months yet, though.
[04:42] <yombe> robotgeek: ok.  Thanks
[04:42] <LaptopZZ> does power management work ok in it?
[04:42] <crimsun> ericroach: isa?
[04:42] <LaptopZZ> suspending
[04:43] <LaptopZZ> hibernation/etc?
[04:43] <cafuego_> LaptopZZ: Yes, but you can't actually use it. All it does is load and detect the hardware.
[04:43] <robotgeek> LaptopZZ: works fine for me
[04:43] <LaptopZZ> awesome
[04:43] <zakame> gusto5: yep, breezy, already did an apt-cache search...
[04:43] <ericroach> crimsun, eah
[04:43] <crimsun> ericroach: is pnp os enabled in your motherboard's bios?
[04:43] <cafuego_> (on the mac mini anyway)
[04:43] <ericroach> crimsun, yeah
[04:43] <LaptopZZ> I think I'll repartiition tonight
[04:43] <LaptopZZ> and install tomorrow
[04:43] <LaptopZZ> thanks for your help everyone
[04:43] <ericroach> crimsun, yeah to the isa, but the pnp os, im not sure
[04:43] <cafuego_> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[04:44] <crimsun> ericroach: lspnp -v -> paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:44] <LaptopZZ> oh actually another kinda question
[04:44] <r0xoR> !start an editor war
[04:44] <ubotu> ed is better than emacs
[04:44] <gusto5> zakame, i have no idea. i know there are convertors in windozes.
[04:44] <r0xoR> hahah
[04:44] <LaptopZZ> is there a UT linux mac binary?
[04:44] <r0xoR> LaptopZZ, doubt it
[04:44] <LaptopZZ> figures hehe :-P
[04:44] <LaptopZZ> fair enough
[04:44] <treyh0> l/ast naliot
[04:44] <treyh0> doh
[04:46] <ericroach> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3277
[04:47] <nalioth> LaptopZZ: if you want to keep osx, parted works great for shrinking your osx partition
[04:48] <humbraro> I'm downloading w32 codecs for mplayer, etc....
[04:48] <humbraro> Do I need to re-install mplayer afterward?
[04:48] <SEJeff> Seveas, does your repo work for breezy?
[04:48] <nalioth> humbraro: you do not
[04:49] <mark_> hiya
[04:49] <humbraro> excellent, thanks
[04:49] <mark_> i'm likin the ubuntu
[04:49] <tr3vis> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wxwidgets2.6/python-wxversion_<IP_ADDRESS>.1ubuntu2_all.deb
[04:49] <tr3vis>   404 Not Found
[04:49] <tr3vis> how can i fix that?
[04:49] <humbraro> mplayer has been crashin on me since I upgraded to breezy
[04:49] <nalioth> tr3vis: the repos are having a bit of trouble atm
[04:50] <tr3vis> so it should be fixed when that is fixed?
[04:50] <jsubl2> i was having trouble with the us.archive repos earlier.. switched to .archive
[04:50] <gusto5> tr3vis, get another mirror
[04:50] <tr3vis> can you point me to a page on how to add another mirror?
[04:50] <treyh0> tr3vis: sed -s s:us.archive:archive:g -i /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update
[04:50] <hogg> hello fellow ubuntuers
[04:50] <EnsignRedshirt> Arghhh... basta!  I hate it when an "upgrade" causes so much regression...  ciao.
[04:50] <tr3vis> thanks treyh0
[04:51] <cfh_dev> how bad is it to update against a 'universe' repo?
[04:51] <Severian> djjason, are you still around?
[04:51] <hogg> ok having apt-get issues
[04:51] <nalioth> cfh_dev: by all means, enable your universe and multiverse
[04:51] <Jemte> how can i check if ubuntu detected my ISA network card
[04:51] <son_5> Hello
[04:51] <treyh0> cfh_dev: its not bad, it contains the neat software
[04:51] <nalioth> hogg: yes we all are, the repos seem to be having some troubles atm
[04:51] <mustard5> anyone know how big the cedega cvs is?
[04:51] <Ilya> I'm writing a CD with Alcohol 120...
[04:51] <djjason> Severian, yes
[04:51] <defendguin> i need to file a bug report against the screensaver   when i move the mouse or touch a key the screensaver stops but the screen is still basically black.  i wanted to look for an existing filed bug but i dont know what you would call that.
[04:51] <simprix> What does ubuntu breezy use for its framebuffer device on the splash screen
[04:52] <gusto5> zakame, sorr, but i have no idea.
[04:52] <rain`> Can someone tell my why specifying > Option		"ConnectedMonitor"		"DFP-0, CRT-0"  does not work? I want my laptop screen DFP-0 to be the primary monitor, while my external monitor CRT-0 to be secondary...but it still thinks my external monitor is primary
[04:52] <cfh_dev> treyh0: I've installed neat stuff from there but have been leary to update my system against it.
[04:52] <nalioth> defendguin: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[04:52] <treyh0> cfh_dev: why?
[04:52] <hogg> does anyone have a good sources.list file for 5.10
[04:52] <gusto5> hogg
[04:52] <nalioth> cfh_dev: it wont hurt anything at all, enable it and multiverse too
[04:52] <hogg> yes
[04:52] <gusto5> sec
[04:52] <gusto5> getting it
[04:52] <treyh0> its as stable as the rest of the repo (rofl given the current situation with us.archive)
[04:52] <greg_s> jemte: go to a terminal and type "dmesg |more" and look for it
[04:52] <cfh_dev> treyh0: never quite knew quite how to think about the universe repo.  Is it kinda like running 'testing' for Debian?
[04:52] <jsubl2> !tell hogg about sources
[04:53] <gusto5> hogg, here => https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[04:53] <treyh0> cfh_dev: main is just ubuntu "officially supported"
[04:53] <treyh0> cfh_dev: universe is everything else availble
[04:53] <mustard5> anyone know how big the cedega cvs is roughly (ballpark figure or total guess )?
[04:53] <Severian> It appears that you can enable it by editing your gnome config files.  There is a way to do that from the command line.  I have seen people do it, but I have not done it, so I'll have to find that if you don't know how.  But, now I could give you the keys you'll need to edit.  Do you want those?
[04:53] <rage> :)
[04:53] <treyh0> cfh_dev: and multiverse is the stuff people are too scared to put in universe cause they might get sued
[04:53] <SAM_theman> how do i get into root
[04:53] <SAM_theman> in the teminal
[04:53] <SAM_theman> what the password
[04:53] <hornbeck> is anyone else getting a badsig when apt-get updating?
[04:53] <cfh_dev> treyh0: ahhh, I'll have to get those turned on.
[04:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell SAM_theman about root
[04:54] <shadymike> SAM_theman: Type in "sudo -i" in the Terminal
[04:54] <cfh_dev> nalioth: thanks for the suggestions, too
[04:54] <Severian> SAM_theman, you run another distro.  Ubuntu users don't need no stinking root.
[04:54] <neighborlee> SAM_theman, sudo passwd root
[04:54] <djjason> Severian, Sure that would be helpful
[04:54] <simprix> What does ubuntu breezy use for its framebuffer device on the splash screen
[04:55] <defendguin> Nali0ths_dog, but what would you call that error?
[04:55] <hornbeck> anybody?
[04:55] <hogg> anyone know why the right click terminal is missing... URRRRGHHHH
[04:55] <gusto5> hogg,
[04:55] <neighborlee> hornbeck, pleaSe see TOPIC
[04:55] <hogg> old habits are hard to break
[04:55] <neighborlee> hornbeck, ie: yes
[04:55] <gusto5> its under applications > accessories
[04:55] <treyh0> hogg: what terminal you using?
[04:55] <Xenguy> SAM_theman: you can run Ubuntu and have root, if you choose
[04:55] <hogg> gnome
[04:56] <hornbeck> neighborlee: thanks
[04:56] <hornbeck> I never read the topic :-)
[04:56] <cfh_dev> Anyone else out there using banshee media player?
[04:56] <neighborlee> hornbeck, yw
[04:56] <mustard5> !tell hogg about openterminal
[04:56] <Severian> djjason, there are several keys to be changed.  They are all under   desktop/gnome/remote_access     The main ones are enabled, prompt_enabled, view_only and vnc_password
[04:56] <neighborlee> hornbeck, not to worry many dont ;0
[04:56] <mickey> mustard5 you just hang out in here to help people all the time??
[04:56] <SAM_theman> this for my dad
[04:57] <mickey> mustard5 nice guy...
[04:57] <neighborlee> SAM_theman, nice
[04:57] <djjason> Severian, ok thanks alot...I will take a look at this...
[04:57] <tarvid> anybody know where firefox links .ra files to totem and how to change it to realplay?
[04:57] <tarvid> cd
[04:57] <mustard5> mickey yeah...it passes the time :)
[04:57] <SAM_theman> hes getting on my nerves now
[04:57] <mustard5> mickey, I'm doing other stuff of course...I'm installing cedega atm
[04:57] <SAM_theman> lol cedega 4.4 is cool
[04:57] <Ilya> Just wondering, is it possable for a Windows PC to give a Linux one internet access(I don't want to do this yet though)? If so, is it easy?
[04:57] <mustard5> hogg, let me find the package you need one tick
[04:58] <Severian> djjason, do you have a local Ubuntu system so you can play with those settings?  That would probably make it go faster.
[04:58] <Hendric> cedega is better with p2p..
[04:58] <mickey> mustard5 being a total newb when you get a chance could you take a look at this forum post that tells how to configure my 7 button intellimouse
[04:58] <SAM_theman> p2p 2.02 i don't get it??
[04:58] <hogg> thanks mustard
[04:58] <mickey> then if think it works, perhaps you or someone can tell me how to do it :-)
[04:58] <mustard5> mickey I think my knowledge about that would be zilcho unfortunately :D
[04:58] <guru54> hey does p2p play well with neverwinter nights by chance?
[04:58] <mickey> mustard5 sad :-)
[04:58] <neighborlee> Hendric, thats a weird comparison but ok ;)
[04:58] <CarlK> Ilya, yes - "share this connection" or something like that
[04:58] <neighborlee> guru54, ?
[04:59] <Hendric> get p2p... it can amazingly tweak every game to run on a linux system
[04:59] <mickey> anyone have knowledge of configuring a usb intellimouse?
[04:59] <Sonny_Wertzik> can someone tell me the command to launch ut2004 from the command terminal?
[04:59] <djjason> Severian, yeah I do......
[04:59] <neighborlee> Sonny_Wertzik, ut2004
[04:59] <mickey> hendric is that its name? p2p?
[04:59] <Hendric> point2play..
[04:59] <mustard5> hogg, To add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package
[04:59] <mickey> cool
[05:00] <Hendric> its a fronted end for cedega...
[05:00] <Laforge38> anyone know where i can get the file bcmw15a.inf and .sys
[05:00] <Severian> djjason, do you know how to edit gconf through ssh or do you want me to track that down?
[05:00] <neighborlee> Hendric, p2p is not magic for every game...for 'some' it is but its not magic ;)
[05:00] <Sonny_Wertzik> neighborlee, heh that aint workin hehe
[05:00] <benplaut> what's a good shooter that doesn't require much for graphics? i can get 60fps in Quake 2 at 1024x768, but nobody ever plays it.. any other good low res?
[05:00] <neighborlee> Sonny_Wertzik, odd i was pretty sure that waS it..sorry
[05:00] <djjason> Severian, no no no need......I can manage that...
[05:00] <JohnP789> I'm trying to tweak hdparm settings for a new UDMA disk on an old BX chipset motherboard.
[05:00] <neighborlee> Sonny_Wertzik, install path > ./ut2004
[05:00] <JohnP789> Should I expect more than about 13.3 MB/s?
[05:00] <Sonny_Wertzik> neighborlee, no prob i appreciate it...i think ur right
[05:00] <drummer87> hey, i want to backup my hdd but i can't just make a tarball of it because my external drive is fat32 and so can't handle files > 4gig. If I just copy all the files, would there be any problems with permissions when copying them back to a clean partition?
[05:00] <JohnP789> (from hdparm -tT)
[05:00] <hogg> you the man mustard5
[05:01] <neighborlee> Sonny_Wertzik, np have fun ;)
[05:01] <mustard5> hogg, np ;)
[05:01] <Severian> benplaut, I like the Uzi.  But a sten gun is real nice, as well.
[05:01] <shadymike> simprix: It looks like something called "usplash"
[05:01] <oxez> benplaut: I'd say counter-strike, but you might want to play it on windows is graphics are a problem for you
[05:01] <Hendric> neighborlee how do you play MOHAA? Guild Warz? without point2play?
[05:01] <neighborlee> Sonny_Wertzik, one of the better linux games ;000
[05:01] <mustard5> hogg, I missed that function a lot too :D
[05:01] <neighborlee> Hendric, I only play  linux native games
[05:01] <drummer87> i'm talking about the *whole* root partition.
[05:01] <neighborlee> Hendric, in linux that is
[05:01] <benplaut> oxez: how does it compare, in terms of graphics load, to Quake 2 or Nexuiz?
[05:01] <nalioth> drummer87: if you tar.gz your files, no. if you directly copy them, yes
[05:01] <Sonny_Wertzik> neighborlee, i just installed breezy and its giving me some trouble
[05:01] <neighborlee> Sonny_Wertzik, sorry to hear that
[05:01] <Hendric> neighborlee... thats why..
[05:02] <djjason> Severian, thank you very much for your help
[05:02] <drummer87> nalioth, how would I backup then?
[05:02] <Sonny_Wertzik> neighborlee, all these permissions and what not
[05:02] <neighborlee> Hendric, I understand the need but I do my best to only use native games
[05:02] <oxez> benplaut: it's based on half-life engine, which is 5-6 years old iirc.. It doesn't require that much performance
[05:02] <cheemp> how do i restart mysqld ?
[05:02] <benplaut> k
[05:02] <nalioth> drummer87: read what i wrote
[05:02] <benplaut> oxez: cadega?
[05:02] <neighborlee> Sonny_Wertzik, well that j ust life in the fast lane of security ;-)
[05:02] <oxez> benplaut: I'd recommand it if you have an nvidia card :P
[05:02] <neighborlee> Sonny_Wertzik, which running root will fix, at a certain possible price
[05:03] <benplaut> oxez: mobile radeon 7500 :P
[05:03] <drummer87> nalioth, if i make a tarball, I'd have nowhere to put it though...
[05:03] <neighborlee> Sonny_Wertzik, unless you buy into michael's arguement ( read: slashdot article about safelty of running root <G>)
[05:03] <Severian> djjason, sure, check back if that does not work.  I have not changed the settings that way, but it looks like it should work.
[05:03] <oxez> benplaut: forget it
[05:03] <benplaut> yeah
[05:03] <Hendric> neighborlee, we use it to play FREE online games... and multiplayer games on our linux system... makes it perfect
[05:03] <benplaut> it's incredible how well quake2 runs
[05:03] <djjason> Severian, will do
[05:03] <oxez> benplaut: I get 30-40 fps, radeon 9800, amd xp 2600+ with 1 gb of ram
[05:03] <mickey> would someone take a look at this link and tell me if it should work in ubuntu for mouse configuration: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=27470&page=1&pp=15
[05:03] <neighborlee> Hendric, free online games..which ones ?
[05:03] <oxez> benplaut: and on windows I get a solid 200 fps
[05:03] <mickey> if it works would you tell me how to do it :-)
[05:03] <nalioth> drummer87: make your tarball >4gb
[05:03] <neighborlee> Hendric, oh wait..like anarchy ?
[05:03] <neighborlee> oh yeah and GW's
[05:03] <Sonny_Wertzik> neighborlee, ya hehehe its just locked down ral hard...i aint gonna run root hehe ill do some figuring and get it str8
[05:03] <neighborlee> nm gotcha
[05:04] <oxez> benplaut: Some people managed to get it running faster in Linux than in Windows with nvidia cards
[05:04] <neighborlee> Sonny_Wertzik, that is best
[05:04] <Hendric> neighborlee, nopes, gunbound is free, guildwarz is fre... (free as in no license requirements)
[05:04] <benplaut> damn... i really got to get a new system
[05:04] <mustard5> oxez, thats sound promising for me :)
[05:04] <neighborlee> Hendric, YES
[05:04] <Sonny_Wertzik> neighborlee, thx for the help
[05:04] <neighborlee> Hendric, sorry did not meant caps
[05:04] <neighborlee> dan keyboard LOL
[05:04] <neighborlee> dain
[05:04] <neighborlee> Sonny_Wertzik, yw
[05:04] <bork> k, my system is stuck on an rmmod command.. console output periodically displays "unregister_netdevice: waiting for eth0 to become free. Usage count = 1".  Any suggestions for getting unstuck?
[05:04] <drummer87> nalioth, ah... but fat32 can't store files >4gig, could i make separate tarballs for /boot, /usr, etc?
[05:05] <oxez> mustard5: hehe I'm currently looking for a card with the same performanc as my radeon 9800pro.. I think I'll pick up an 6600GT
[05:05] <CarlK> crimsun, can you repeat the 'basicaly what the wiki should say' ?  (I got distracted and it fell off the buffer)
[05:05] <Severian> mickey, it looks about right.  It should be like that or very similar.  Someone with an intellimouse should check their file to confirm it.
[05:05] <nalioth> drummer87: >4gb is the key
[05:05] <Hendric> Warcraft, Cstrike, Quake, NBA Live 2005 are faster in linux than in windows. and even playable window mode.
[05:05] <mickey> severian, could you tell me in idiot's terms how to do this
[05:05] <nalioth> drummer87: and you only need to back up your $HOMEDIR anyway
[05:05] <neighborlee> bork, thats out of my league really but ..what command are you running to get that error output ?
[05:05] <mickey> severian I'm extremely new, and being a windows nerd never learned the command line
[05:06] <mickey> severian I'm trying to learn though I promise :-)
[05:06] <bork> nothing - it is being outputted to the console periodically.
[05:06] <drummer87> nalioth, i wanted the whole drive in case i want to go back to hoary with my current config
[05:06] <Ron_o> mickey: learning means to start from the beginning.
[05:06] <neighborlee> Hendric, yes , I realize 'some' of the benefits of windows games in linux..I just prefer  the benefits of native binaries ;-))
[05:06] <bork> specifically, I executed "rmmod ipw2200" in a gnome terminal
[05:06] <bork> and this output is coming to the non-gnome terminals
[05:06] <neighborlee> bork, how totally odd
[05:06] <bork> yes
[05:06] <Ron_o> I hate to say it but you're looking at 2 years in the making
[05:06] <bork> gnome windows are responding, but I can't open new ones
[05:06] <mickey> Ron_o doing my best, got about 3 different files open on the computer teaching command line basics
[05:07] <Ron_o> mickey: have you tried any books?
[05:07] <Laforge38> anyone know where i can get the file bcmw15a.inf and .sys
[05:07] <mickey> ron_o that's fine, just would like some little things to work, I"m kinda scared to screw the system up though, is there a way to back it up?
[05:07] <mickey> ron_o not yet, any suggestions?
[05:07] <whaley> i just installed breezy badger and everything looks fine upon booting up and logging into gnome.  however, after a short amount of time gnome seems to just hang without responding to anything... mouse is still available but the gui is unresponsive
[05:07] <Severian> mickey, edit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf    look for mouse.  Which editor do you use and I'll try to be more specific.
[05:07] <whaley> any ideas on where to begin troubleshooting?
[05:07] <Ron_o> I hear Oreilly books are great.
[05:08] <Hendric> whaley, hows your RAM and CPU?
[05:08] <mickey> I'm new to breezy, so let me know, I did sudo gedit the other day
[05:08] <LaptopZZ> hey, guys on ppc mac, do you have ipartition or anything that I can use to repart the disk?
[05:08] <mickey> severian is that what you mean, do I sound like a total loser yet? :-)
[05:08] <whaley> didn't take notice, although I've run gnome 2.10 on gentoo before with no problem
[05:08] <mickey> ron_o how'd you learn, just playing?
[05:08] <robotgeek> LaptopZZ: i don't run OS X anymore :)
[05:08] <LaptopZZ> heh
[05:09] <mickey> ron_o I'm pretty proficient on a window's system, I just like the philosophy behind linux
[05:09] <Hendric> whaley, note that 128MB RAM isn't enuf for ubuntu
[05:09] <Severian> Gedit is good.  You can skip the sudo if you are only trying to view the file.  No, you sound fine
[05:09] <jsubl2> whaley, still running the i386 kernel or have you installed one that is closer to your arch.
[05:09] <mickey> ron_o that's the reason for the attempted move
[05:09] <Ron_o> mickey:  I hope I haven't given you the impreassion that I know ;->
[05:09] <Surak> hello, what'sd the package I should use to write in chinese using ubuntu?
[05:09] <whaley> i386
[05:09] <mickey> ron_o lol
[05:09] <whaley> Hendric: i have 512, which should be sufficient
[05:09] <mickey> alrighty severian so what do I do first, how do I look at that particular file in gedit?
[05:09] <Ron_o> I was just waxing philosophical about your road ahead.
[05:09] <cheemp> how do i restart mysqld on ubuntu >
[05:09] <cheemp> ?
[05:09] <CarlK> Hendric, i find 128 to be "just enough"
[05:10] <melvztechie> hello, how can i block ICMP in my ubuntu PC
[05:10] <Hendric> whaley, then shouldn't be having some problems.. if you are on a Pentium or Celeron series... try installing the 686 kernel
[05:10] <pepsi> melvztechie, whats the point?
[05:10] <whaley> jsubl2: I'll try another kernel and see if that works
[05:10] <Hendric> CarlFK, enuf if you have enuf CPU too
[05:10] <Surak> cheemp : look for the mysql service at /etc/init.d/
[05:10] <whaley> Hendric: danke :) i'll give that a shot
[05:10] <Ron_o> for me, I hate windows but I'm stuck with it right now.
[05:10] <jsubl2> whaley, what is your arch.
[05:11] <Severian> mickey,  well I would use a terminal prompt to start gedit. The first thing I would do in the terminal window is   cd /etc/X11      Then do    gedit xorg.conf
[05:11] <CarlK> Hendric, P2-333, 128 is "useable" but a P2-400, 96 is "too anoying"
[05:11] <Ron_o> I have, like, a googillian amount of software on this machine to fix windows. I'm tired of it./
[05:11] <mickey> k one sec
[05:11] <Surak> Does anyone knows how do I input chinese text using ubuntu and gnome?
[05:11] <hosler> How do I get my ATI card to get 3d accellerated graphics?
[05:11] <Hendric> CarlFK, try OO2.. Firefox... 128 wll be too annoying
[05:11] <oxez> ubotu: tell hosler about ati
[05:11] <Surak> hosler: download the closed source ati driver.
[05:12] <Severian> mickey it is harder to describe the file open process if you start gedit from the applications menu, but I can try.
[05:12] <lixiaolong> i know it
[05:12] <mickey> terminal is fine
[05:12] <whaley> jsubl2: p4
[05:12] <hectorC> I'm trying to build a package using the source form ubuntu... I'm using this command: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc -b but it fails because of fuzz in the patching... is there a flag for making it ignore this?
[05:12] <mickey> severian it returned bash: cd/etc/x11: No such file or directory
[05:12] <Ron_o> but I think that linux distors are at a distinct disadvantage. The odds of it taking over the OS world is unlikely indeed.
[05:12] <whaley> guess i'll use the 686 kernel
[05:13] <mickey> ron_o from a recent converts point of view the learning curve is certainly immense
[05:13] <robotgeek> mickey: cd /etc/X11
[05:13] <Severian> mickey, Linux is case sensitive.  You have to do it just like I showed you..    cd /etc/X11
[05:13] <Ron_o> mickey: how old are you?
[05:13] <cheemp> surak: i do /etc/init.d/mysql restart -u root and i keep getting access denied
[05:13] <hogg> hey mustard
[05:13] <richard> hey, i think i know how to fix the signature problem
[05:13] <Ron_o> around...
[05:13] <richard> hold on
[05:13] <tigliona1bit> heyy...  how come there's no default viewer for png files?
[05:13] <mickey> got it
[05:13] <Surak> cheemp: do that as root
[05:13] <richard> ! apt-cdrom
[05:13] <ubotu> richard: Bugger all, i dunno
[05:13] <bob832> mikey: i agree the leaning is a bit large but once you start, it becomes more easy
[05:13] <lixiaolong>
[05:13] <richard> dang
[05:13] <mickey> ron_o not that it should be important but 23 ;-)
[05:14] <hogg> how do you kill gnome on the fly kill gpanel??
[05:14] <robotgeek> tigliona1bit: try 'display'
[05:14] <richard> im thinking what to put down for ubotu
[05:14] <lixiaolong>
[05:14] <Jemte> how can i manually add my ISA network card  ... create an entry for it in /etc/network ?
[05:14] <Ron_o> as you get older, you'll realize that a few years isn't that long at all.
[05:14] <LaptopZZ>
[05:14] <CarlK> back to my java quest:  what is the non-sun way to satify the test on http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre
[05:14] <Ron_o> if you're really interested in computers, then learn from the beginning.
[05:14] <lixiaolong> i'am from china
[05:14] <Hendric> hogg ctrl+alt+backspace?
[05:14] <Severian> lixiaolong, this is an english language forum
[05:14] <nalioth> Hendric: not exactly
[05:14] <LaptopZZ> lixiaolong: come to #debian-zh
[05:14] <Ron_o> in the long haul things will be easier.
[05:14] <lixiaolong> thanks
[05:15] <nalioth> hogg: open a terminal and type "killall gnome-panel"
[05:15] <Surak> Lixiaolong, I just asked how do I type in chinese using ubuntu! :-)
[05:15] <richard> just insert your install cd into your computer, and type sudo apt-cdrom add into terminal
[05:15] <Ron_o> when I was in high school I dropped out of the computer world.
[05:15] <hogg> thanks nalioth
[05:15] <LaptopZZ> surak: scim
[05:15] <mickey> alright it opened a window severian
[05:15] <jrattner1> the repositories have alot of good packages :  )
[05:15] <Ron_o> I had no choice but I wish it never happened.
[05:15] <mickey> lots of text severian :-)
[05:15] <richard> and then type apt-get update
[05:15] <Ar}{Angel> I have a question
[05:15] <Ar}{Angel> I'm getting this error
[05:15] <Ar}{Angel> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:15] <Ar}{Angel> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:15] <richard> that should fix the problem
[05:15] <hectorC> Anyone could help me with this one? I'm trying to build a package using the source form ubuntu...   Look for InputDevice
[05:16] <tarvid> anybody know the name of the tool to edit gnome defaults
[05:16] <mickey> ron_o I'm a teacher by trade so once I learn it I'll likely teach others
[05:16] <richard> ! ubuntu
[05:16] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntu was an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[05:16] <Hendric> tarvid change something then save sessions
[05:16] <richard> ! gnome
[05:16] <ubotu> hmm... gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.
[05:17] <tarvid> ! gnome
[05:17] <hosler> Can someone link me to an example repository file for breezy?
[05:17] <mickey> severian found it
[05:17] <tarvid> i want to modify /etc/gnome/defaults.list
[05:17] <Severian> tarvid, something like  gconfedit
[05:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hosler about source
[05:17] <nalioth> hosler: the repos are having troubles atm, anyway, so changing wont help
[05:18] <hosler> nalioth: where can i get the fglrx thing then?
[05:18] <frank23> anyone know where to find a deb for wine-20050111 that would work in breezy?
[05:18] <mickey> severian should I just replace what's in there with the text from the page I sent ya?
[05:18] <Severian> mickey, I have a line in that section that reads     Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
[05:18] <nalioth> hosler: for now, you can't. i'm hopin the repos resolve themselves soon
[05:18] <mickey> severian yep got it..
[05:19] <frank23> nalioth: problems with the repos?
[05:19] <Severian> mickey, what protocol is yours?
[05:19] <hosler> !tell hosler about source
[05:19] <hosler> !tell hosler about repositories
[05:19] <mickey> severian same as yours
[05:19] <nalioth> hosler: read your ubotu mail, please
[05:19] <crimsun> CarlK: please download a jre/jdk, then download java-package, then execute make-jpkg passing the jre/jdk you downloaded as a parameter
[05:19] <mustard5> hosler, sources
[05:19] <frank23> hosler: you can also use !tell me about ...
[05:20] <nalioth> frank23: people (including myself) are having repo troubles
[05:20] <hosler> !tell me about sources
[05:20] <hosler> the private msg thing isnt working for me
[05:20] <nalioth> frank23: you cannot. you look like a unlearned barbarian
[05:20] <Severian> mickey, I would not just cut and past that.  They may be running a different version of x11.  Although it is probably pretty safe.   Back up your config file first.  If you do the edit wrong you may have no mouse when you reboot.
[05:20] <nalioth> hosler: you must identify yourself to nickserv
[05:20] <hosler> oh
[05:21] <cheemp> surk: i am root in bash... i need to reset the mysql password
[05:21] <mickey> severian good tip, is there an easy way to back it up, just copy and paste whole file to a text file?
[05:21] <jrattner1> What tool is shown to the right in this picture? http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_type=1&screen_id=5983645394047ad3186e2d&m=screen
[05:21] <Severian> mickey, do you have a line that starts with   ZAxisMapping?
[05:21] <nalioth> frank23: you !tell other people. you talk to ubotu in a /pm
[05:21] <mickey> severian yep
[05:21] <Mr_Milenko> Does anyone have 5 minutes to take out of there busy schedule to let me PM them?
[05:21] <Mr_Milenko> :)
[05:21] <jorgp>  what would cause bash completion not to work?
[05:21] <nalioth> Mr_Milenko: ask in channel, more brains here
[05:21] <cheemp> broken tab key
[05:22] <Mr_Milenko> yeah well i need to paste something
[05:22] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[05:22] <TiMiDo> damn keyboard is so sticky
[05:22] <jorgp> this machine was upgraded from breezy rc to release
[05:22] <Ar}{Angel> If I'm getting gpg errors, how do I switch to another mirror?
[05:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Mr_Milenko about paste
[05:22] <justin_> #ubuntu
[05:22] <nalioth> Ar}{Angel: you dont. the errors will sort themselves
[05:22] <Severian> mickey, to back it up, just go to the terminal prompt, cd /etc/X11   and do   cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.oct17
[05:22] <uglysmurf>  /msg ubotu gpgerr
[05:22] <Ar}{Angel> Well then why does it keep telling me to do apt-get update
[05:22] <Ar}{Angel> ?
[05:22] <Ar}{Angel> Like 20 times now
[05:22] <nalioth> Ar}{Angel: b/c that's what it's programmed to do
[05:22] <mustard5> uglysmurf, take space out at start
[05:23] <jorgp> cheemp: nope tab key works fine, and bash completion works fine on the laptop
[05:23] <Mr_Milenko> mustard
[05:23] <Mr_Milenko> you helped me a bit earlier
[05:23] <Amaranth> Ar}{Angel: Are you using us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:23] <lixiaolong> Surak,you can use the fcitx
[05:23] <Ar}{Angel> yes I am
[05:23] <Mr_Milenko> i have some information about my modem :-/ what Driverguide Toolkit helped me find
[05:23] <Mr_Milenko> but it didnt give information as to what exactly it is
[05:23] <Mr_Milenko> :-/
[05:23] <lixiaolong> Surak,are you here?
[05:23] <mustard5> you need to learn about the pastebin Mr_Milenko so we can look at your pastes
[05:23] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, you getting pm's from ubotu?
[05:23] <Severian> mickey, it would seem that you are already using the intellimouse protocol, then.   What makes you think you are not?
[05:24] <Ar}{Angel> Yes I am using that update area
[05:24] <cheemp> i don't get this... i'm doing exactly what the mysql manual says to change the password, but still access denied :(
[05:24] <Mr_Milenko> yep
[05:24] <Mr_Milenko> gimme a sec
[05:24] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[05:24] <tarvid> not getting anywhere fast, /etc/gnome/defaults.list associates the wrong programs with a few file extensions and i would like to fix that
[05:24] <Amaranth> Ar}{Angel: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com, see if that fixes it
[05:24] <Ar}{Angel> okay trying
[05:24] <Ron_o> mickey: since you're a teacher then maybe you could look at edbuntu
[05:24] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, take your time :)
[05:24] <mickey> severian I don't have the ability to use my side buttons
[05:25] <HaroldJohnson> Hello everyone!
[05:25] <TiMiDo> hello HaroldJohnson
[05:25] <mickey> severian i have a 7 button mouse, and I want the navigation ability
[05:25] <Severian> mickey   the Im in ImPS/2 means Intellimouse.  Older mice would have just had a PS/2 there.
[05:25] <HaroldJohnson> TiMiDo, Hello
[05:25] <Ron_o> hey HaroldJohnson
[05:25] <uglysmurf> mustard5, yea i saw, the friendliness is appreciated :)
[05:25] <HaroldJohnson> Ron_o, Hello
[05:25] <mickey> ron_o yeah I've seen that, I wonder what the big difference is
[05:25] <Mr_Milenko> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/3278
[05:25] <Mr_Milenko> :)
[05:25] <Ron_o> mickey, not much besides the progs that go with it.
[05:25] <Ron_o> you should check out the edbuntu site.
[05:26] <Ron_o> http://www.edubuntu.org/
[05:26] <Severian> mickey, I don't know that you will get more than 3 button and a scroll wheel in Linux.  If it is possible, I have not seen it.
[05:26] <philip69> i need help with ubuntu.. how can i install my d-link du 560m usb modem?? pls help me
[05:26] <mickey> ok one sec there was more to that post that I think explained that
[05:27] <philip69> i need help with ubuntu.. how can i install my d-link du 560m usb modem?? pls help me
[05:27] <Mr_Milenko> pasted in the paste bin
[05:27] <TiMiDo> philip69; do lspci and see if it comes up
[05:27] <Mr_Milenko> mustard5: care to read it and give me any information you would deem usefull?
[05:27] <mickey> severian below that top part there is a section regarding pointer=1236745
[05:27] <mickey> severian I think that deals with the 7 button thing
[05:28] <mickey> severian backed up that file by the way
[05:28] <lgc> Hello all from Mexico! Will anybody help me with some basic question?
[05:28] <philip69> im a newbie in linux how can i do lspci.. do u have a step by step procedure Timido?
[05:28] <TiMiDo> lgc; try asking
[05:28] <TiMiDo> philip69; on the terminal
[05:28] <nalioth>  philip69 open a terminal and type it
[05:28] <m477> usb modems won't showup in lspci I don't believe?
[05:28] <TiMiDo> m477; they will
[05:28] <Ar}{Angel> Amaranth, Thanks, taking the us out fixed it, that was strange
[05:28] <m477> I always used lsusb
[05:29] <philip69> then what next timido?
[05:29] <TiMiDo> do you see the modem?
[05:29] <philip69> yes, but it is not working
[05:30] <kkathman> does anyone know what the command is to start SYSLOG at the konsole ?
[05:30] <mickey> severian see what I'm talkin about?
[05:30] <lgc> TiMiDo: thanks. The problem is that I've been having trouble with the network configuration of my lap. It takes forever to go to the next step and then I get no connection.
[05:30] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, it looks like a Conexant 56k HCF modem
[05:30] <philip69> i think my modem is not defective i allready use it on my windows pc
[05:30] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, it looks like a Conexant 56k HCF pci modem
[05:30] <runelind> heh
[05:30] <Mr_Milenko> lol ok
[05:30] <runelind> I love when the topic solves my problems
[05:30] <Mr_Milenko> think i may find a driver somewhere?
[05:31] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, I have one sitting in my junk pile behind me :D
[05:31] <ton> how does a dsl lines work, i am asking it , because i would like to implement one, could i use my telephone line to transmit 1mGH
[05:31] <m477> They should work without any extra modules
[05:31] <philip69> can u find a driver for me Mr milenko?
[05:31] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, there are drivers that conexant will supply, but they will not function at full speed unless you pay them a small fee
[05:32] <Severian> mickey, yeah, I was looking at it.  I use a very similar mouse to the one he is talking about.  I use a Logitech MX510 and he refers to a MX500.  the xmodmap program is in /usr/bin/X11, so probably what he suggests will work fine in Ubuntu.
[05:32] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, if you check out the conexant website you can probably find more details
[05:32] <crimsun> ericroach: let me know when you've got a Terminal open
[05:32] <mickey> severian might have solved both our problems then, do you have a 7 button mouse?
[05:32] <Ar}{Angel> How do you set up Ubuntu so my sound works?
[05:32] <josh__> can someone help me start sshd and allow a friend to access my PC, I'm new to Ubuntu and linux
[05:32] <mickey> severian could you tell me how to get to that and what to do from the command line like you've done so far
[05:32] <kkathman> crimsun: do you happen to know if you can start SYSLOG from the konsole?
[05:32] <Severian> mickey, Intellimouse is also a slif=ghtly different protocol than plain PS/2 mice.  I was focusing on that part when I first started answering you.
[05:33] <mickey> severian you are doing great, extra points in heaven for you
[05:33] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko, that probably doesnt excite you ..I know :D
[05:33] <paca> I just installed Breezy to another computer...  It told me that several packages were broken, so I tried to reinstall them with synaptic and it just failed with a bunch of errors.  What typically causes that?
[05:33] <lgc> TiMiDo: what I mean is that it takes unusually long to boot because the boot process seems to get stuck in the "network interfaces" part. I don't remember having messed with any parameter...:)
[05:34] <Ar}{Angel> Anyone know how I set up my sound blaster zs to work with Linux?
[05:34] <nalioth> paca: the repos are in a state of chaos atm
[05:34] <paca> nalioth, I know, but it wasn't gpg errors it gave me.
[05:34] <paca> nalioth, something about buffers and whatnot.
[05:34] <josh__> Anyone know how to run sshd?
[05:34] <crimsun> kkathman: sure. sudo invoke-rc.d sysklogd start
[05:34] <crimsun> josh__: install openssh-server
[05:34] <uglysmurf> would it be worth changing the topic to reflect the fact that none of the mirrors have breezy-backports?
[05:35] <pepperpot> anyone know how i can upgrade the firmware for my Pioneer dvd burner without installing windows on my harddrive? Is it possible with some kind of bootdisk?
[05:35] <josh__> crimsin: should I apt-get it
[05:35] <crimsun> uglysmurf: not really, no.
[05:35] <Severian> mickey, I was just looking first.  OK, first, lets edit the xorg.conf file.  You backed it up fiirst.  Right?
[05:35] <mhz> josh__: just sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:35] <m477> there's nothing to backport in breezy yet
[05:35] <josh__> ok thanks let me try that
[05:35] <Amaranth> uglysmurf: breezy-backports isn't even open yet
[05:35] <mickey> severian yeppers
[05:35] <kkathman> crimsun: thanks
[05:35] <nemo> I was wondering if anyone could help me. I am running KDE instead of Gnome, and I can't figure out how to get "gdesklets" to run on startup. Does anyone know how?
[05:35] <mickey> severian you gonna tell me how to restore it using just a keyboard just in case :-P
[05:36] <ericroach> sudo modinfo souncore
[05:36] <ericroach> sudo modinfo soundcore
[05:36] <Severian> mickey, OK, when you started gedit, dis you put the sudo command before gedit?  We were just looking at first, and so you did not need it.
[05:36] <pepperpot> is it possible to upgrade firmware without having a dual boot system?
[05:36] <mhz> josh__: ssh server will auto configure.
[05:36] <mickey> nope
[05:36] <mickey> need to do that I bet
[05:36] <josh__> ok I did the apt-get
[05:36] <Ar}{Angel> hmm
[05:36] <uglysmurf> well...for the noob, upon enabling that checkbox you can hit with a stream of "not found" errors...wasnt obvious to me for one
[05:37] <mhz> josh__: you will then be able to ssh to the box from the outside, easily if user exists and is allowed to ssh :)
[05:37] <crimsun> Ar}{Angel: what's the issue?
[05:37] <mhz> josh__: nothing else needed
[05:37] <lgc> Hello again to all! I need your help! Will ANYONE please give me advise on the network configuration of my laptop?
[05:37] <josh__> so I don't need to start it?
[05:37] <mickey> its opened severian
[05:37] <mhz> josh__: APT takes care of that for you
[05:37] <josh__> mhz: thanks
[05:38] <nemo> can anyone help me on gdesklets in KDE?
[05:38] <Severian> mickey, in the event this does not work, you will switch to an alternate console, login and copy your original xorg file back to its first location, i.e.    cd /etc/X11   cp xorg.conf.oct17 xorg.conf     Then reboot.
[05:38] <mhz> josh__: np
[05:38] <lgc> HELP!
[05:38] <milksteak> gah
[05:38] <mhz> josh__: isn't it APT cool?
[05:38] <Severian> mickey, it is opened with sudo?  otherwise it will be read only.
[05:38] <mhz> D
[05:38] <mhz> :D
[05:39] <milksteak> can't believe I still haven't been able to get java to work in breezy
[05:39] <nalioth> lgc: instead of being dramatic, tell us your problem (hardware, etc)
[05:39] <josh__> mhz: haha yeah it is
[05:39] <mhz> lgc: usually, b4 you get help, you shoul provide more info
[05:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell milksteak about java
[05:39] <milksteak> hah
[05:39] <milksteak> thanks nalioth
[05:40] <milksteak> !javadeb
[05:40] <ubotu> hmm... javadeb is for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[05:40] <mickey> severian opened with sudo
[05:40] <lgc> nalioth, mhz, I already did: there is something wrong with the network interfaces of my machine. It takes very long when booting at the step "configuring network interfaces". And then I get no connection. I'm on Hoary.
[05:40] <Severian> mickey, now select the part of org.conf from  Section "InputDevice"   to EndSection   This should be the section that has the Identifier   Configured Mouse
[05:41] <Severian> mickey, that should have been xorg.conf
[05:41] <mhz> lgc: oh that has been very common issue
[05:41] <mickey> severian done
[05:41] <SaM^HeIN> ok that sucked
[05:41] <Severian> Delete that whole section and leave the cursor there.
[05:41] <lgc> mhz: I don't know if I'm happy to hear that. Is there a proven solution?
[05:42] <Mr_Milenko> mustard5
[05:42] <glick> excuse me does anyone know how to send a packet to a PS file in ethereal?
[05:42] <mustard5> Mr_Milenko,
[05:42] <mhz> lgc: when booting, once it starts 'setting your network' press CTRL-C to cancel it and once it has laready finished and you log in..
[05:42] <mickey> severian, k
[05:42] <glick> when i try i get the error "unknown print command"
[05:42] <Mr_Milenko> the last bit i got to see was me saying my system was recycled
[05:42] <Mr_Milenko> :-/
[05:42] <nalioth> lgc: i am not able to help you with your problem, but i will point out that asking your question every 4 or 5 minutes is greatly more helpful then being dramatic. if your answer isnt here, nobody will talk to you. we are not ignoring you
[05:42] <Mr_Milenko> did you say anything after that
[05:42] <mustard5> I never saw it
[05:42] <Severian> mickey, now copy the whole section from the web page and paste it at that point in the xorg.conf file
[05:42] <glick> error writting to print command
[05:42] <mhz> lgc: then you just run /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:42] <Mr_Milenko> oi
[05:42] <mustard5> did you get disconnected?
[05:42] <Mr_Milenko> yes
[05:42] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[05:43] <mickey> severian, just the top piece right?
[05:43] <lgc> mhz let me try that right away...
[05:43] <mustard5> ah ok...let me repeat what I said then
[05:43] <Severian> mickey, that should have pasted 18 lines.