 ;P
[05:22] <Kilos> yeah you been gone. im nearly always here
[05:22] <Kilos> goed dankie en self?
[05:22] <Cantide> ook goed :) maar baie besig :/
[05:22] <Kilos> aha
[05:22] <Cantide> i have 2 jobs
[05:22] <Cantide> and no PC
[05:23] <Kilos> hi bduk1
[05:23] <Cantide> just this raspberry pi for now
[05:23] <Kilos> aw that sucks
[05:23] <bduk1> Morning everyone
[05:23] <Cantide> so yeah... kinda busy :p but i will earn some good money in a month or two and then certainly get a good pc :)
[05:23] <nuvolari> o/ hello's
[05:23] <Cantide> afternoon~
[05:23] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilo, bduk1, Cantide
[05:23] <Kilos> well if you make lotsa bucks i can build you a custom box
[05:23] <nuvolari> and mazal
[05:23] <Kilos> lo nuvolari
[05:23] <Cantide> haha
[05:24] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[05:24] <nuvolari> and magespawn
[05:24] <magespawn> good morning
[05:24] <Cantide> i've been checking out the stuff here... might buy some cool parts online
[05:24] <nuvolari> morning!
[05:24] <Cantide> afternoon nuvolari :p
[05:27]  * Kilos forgot you in korea
[05:27] <Cantide> '-';;;
[05:27] <Cantide> that's why i've been so scarce lately
[05:27] <magespawn> how is it going there Cantide ?
[05:27] <Cantide> quite well :)
[05:28] <Cantide> but working like a slave
[05:28] <Cantide> haha
[05:34] <Kilos> as long as they pay good all is well
[05:35] <Kilos> how can it be slaving teaching peeps english
[05:35] <Kilos> ??
[05:36] <Cantide> i have 2 jobs
[05:36] <Cantide> and the hours suck
[05:36] <Cantide> wake up at 05:30 am and get home at 22:15 pm every day
[05:36] <Kilos> what is the second one?
[05:36] <Cantide> check out bandisoft.com
[05:36] <Cantide> i just started there, so i haven't done much work for them yet
[05:37] <Cantide> but i'll be doing the English forum admin, checking the English on their programs' UIs
[05:37] <Cantide> and checking the English on  their websites
[05:37] <Kilos> cool
[05:37] <Cantide> and some other small tasks such as writing program descriptions and whatnot
[05:37] <Cantide> yeah, i do it from home during the day, or from my office at the school where i teach in between classes :p
[05:37] <Kilos> great
[05:38] <Kilos> keep it up
[05:38] <Cantide> and it's like R 5K a month
[05:38] <Cantide> just for an hour or 2 of my time a day :p
[05:38] <Kilos> see if you can get super plenamins there
[05:38] <Cantide> so yeah, money in Korea is good :)
[05:38] <Kilos> za stopped importing them
[05:38] <Cantide> plenamins?
[05:38] <Kilos> best multivit ever made
[05:38] <Kilos> super plenamins
[05:39] <Cantide> lol
[05:39] <Cantide> not sure about that
[05:39] <Cantide> different language means it's tough to find that kind of thing here
[05:39] <Cantide> my shopping is usually the bare essentials
[05:39] <Kilos> google them man
[05:40] <Cantide> i mean finding specific stuff here is hard unless you speak the language
[05:40] <Kilos> you never get tired when on them
[05:40] <Cantide> or read it really well and know where to search
[05:40] <Cantide> haha
[05:40] <Cantide> sounds like drugs :p
[05:40] <Cantide> i've got to get back to work
[05:40] <Cantide> gonna swing by the bookstore on my way in
[05:40] <Cantide> just stopped at my apartment for a rest between shifts :p
[05:40] <Kilos> they work great , i used them many years ago when doing karate and running
[05:41] <Kilos> have a good day lad
[05:41] <Cantide> you, too :p
[05:41] <Kilos> ty
[05:41] <Cantide> just 5 more hours of work and then i'm off until Monday :)
[05:41] <Cantide> see ya~
[05:41] <Kilos> go well
[05:42] <Kilos> ai!
[05:53] <Kilos> aw
[05:54] <Kilos> just remember why i prefer 32bit 12.04 t0 64bit. xchat dont have sound alerts on the 64bit
[06:02] <Kilos> wb magespawn
[06:19] <Kilos> wbb
[06:21] <Kilos> hi mazal
[06:25] <Kilos> morning ThatGraemeGuy
[06:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning :-)
[06:29] <Squirm> hi
[06:29] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee please
[06:29] <Maaz> Squirm: There isn't a pot on
[06:29] <Kilos> oh ya :-)
[06:29] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee on
[06:29]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[06:29] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[06:29] <Squirm> Maaz: larger
[06:29] <Maaz> inna bucket for you Squirm
[06:29] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[06:29] <Maaz> Kilos: Done
[06:31] <Kilos> Maaz, largest
[06:31] <Maaz> Whew do you want a bath full Kilos?
[06:33] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos!
[06:35] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[06:35] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[06:39] <Squirm> now I want
[06:40] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee on
[06:40]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[06:40] <Squirm> Maaz: largest!
[06:40] <Maaz> Whew do you want a bath full Squirm?
[06:40] <Squirm> Maaz: yes!
[06:40] <Maaz> Squirm: Huh?
[06:40] <Squirm> Maaz: largest!
[06:40] <Maaz> Whew do you want a bath full Squirm?
[06:40] <Kilos> haha
[06:41] <Kilos> Maaz, yes
[06:41] <Maaz> Well then Kilos Please be patient!
[06:44] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm!
[06:54] <Kilos> vodacom sucks here 42kB/s downloads
[06:55] <Kilos> but was a free 100m data from somewhere
[07:32] <inetpro> good evening
[07:33] <Golynx> Morning inetpro
[07:35] <Vince-0> !
[07:45] <Kilos> hi inetpro Golynx Vince-0
[07:46]  * Kilos was outside
[07:46] <Golynx> Hi Kilos
[07:46] <Kilos> shame i didnt get to help parkerdo last night
[07:59] <magespawn> later all got to go work
[08:15] <charl_> good morning
[08:15] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[08:15]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[08:19] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[08:40] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[08:40] <Maaz> charl_: Sure
[08:43] <charl_> hi Maaz
[08:44] <charl_> hi mazal
[08:44] <charl_> bah tab fail
[08:44] <Kilos> hi charl_
[08:44] <Kilos> you ,issed a lekker meet
[08:45] <Kilos> missed
[08:46] <Kilos> ho Golynx too
[08:47] <Golynx> Hey Kilos v2
[08:47] <Kilos> if someone wants to make lotsa money get design some antistaic stuff for inside pcs
[08:47] <Kilos> v2?
[08:47] <Kilos> lol
[08:47] <Golynx> lol like hello version 2
[08:47] <Kilos> antistatic
[08:48] <Golynx> What is that
[08:48] <Kilos> stops dust collecting
[08:48] <Kilos> ive seen sprays for tvs
[08:48] <Golynx> oh ya
[08:49] <Kilos> but liquid not good inside a pc
[08:49] <Kilos> maybe if one removes the heat sinks and sprays them it might work
[08:50] <Golynx> I used to put a metal arm band with a wire to a metal case on the floor when i worked with electronics
[08:50] <Golynx> Ya might work
[08:50] <Kilos> ya thats so you dont carry static
[08:51] <Golynx> ic's are sesitive stuff
[08:51] <Golynx> sensitive*
[08:51] <Kilos> yeah always good to earth yourself before touching them
[08:52] <Golynx> wish my room was as clean as where they make those silicon chips
[08:53] <Kilos> or build drives or formula one engines
[08:54] <Kilos> i got a corrupt bell.ogg file
[08:54] <Golynx> haha ya , they will be driven dirty anyway
[08:54] <Kilos> sounds like tv off channel
[08:55] <Kilos> ya but in the engine and gearbox they are assembled in clinically clean rooms
[08:55] <Kilos> same as pc hdd's
[08:57] <Golynx> Ya when you want maximum performance, all parts must be clean to the micron
[09:02] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[09:04] <superfly> hi Kilos
[09:07] <Golynx> hi superfly
[09:07] <Golynx> hi drussell
[09:08] <drussell> hey Golynx
[09:08]  * Kilos waves across the water to drussell
[09:08] <Golynx> cool twitter profile avatar superfly
[09:09] <Kilos> you tweet?
[09:09] <Kilos> follow @ubuntuza
[09:09] <Golynx> nope saw on google
[09:10] <Kilos> ah
[09:10] <Golynx> forgot my twitter name and passw years ago
[09:11] <Kilos> lol
[09:27] <Kilos> hi psyatw
[09:27] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[09:28] <psyatw> hi maiatoday
[09:29] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday
[09:50] <charl_> hi Kilos
[09:51] <charl_> Kilos: i was there
[09:51] <psyatw> hi charl_
[09:51] <Kilos> oh
[09:51] <charl_> hi superfly, Golynx, psyatw
[09:51] <superfly> hi charl_
[09:52] <psyatw> charl_, I´ve got a new job doing 2nd line Windows/Linux support starting in March
[09:52] <psyatw> hi Golynx
[09:52] <Golynx> hi charl_ and psyatw
[09:52] <charl_> psyatw: congrats! is that in NL or PL?
[09:52] <psyatw> charl_, still in PL, but I´ll earn more money as well
[09:52] <psyatw> thanks
[09:53] <psyatw> at Atos
[09:53] <charl_> psyatw: nice man, that's awesome :)
[09:53] <psyatw> charl_, yeah :)
[09:53] <psyatw> and I believe they´ll have more opportunities for me in the future as well
[09:54] <psyatw> I already said I wanted to get certified for RHCE and OCA among others
[09:55] <psyatw> and maybe also the Java Developer program
[09:55] <charl_> ah, oracle database?
[09:55] <psyatw> yes
[09:56] <charl_> we use oracle here, can't say i get very happy from it
[09:56] <psyatw> my uncle is OCP (Oracle Certified Professional)
[09:56] <Kilos> nice psyatw
[09:56] <charl_> i think there are good job opportunities in that area though
[09:56] <charl_> SAP too actually
[09:56] <charl_> businessobjects for example
[09:56] <psyatw> charl_, yes, that´s what I think too
[09:56] <charl_> actually BO's ETL aspect is really cool
[09:56] <psyatw> Kilos, yeah, thanks
[09:56] <charl_> we use that too
[09:57] <psyatw> hmm, I should look into that later then
[09:57] <psyatw> but you know what is also important?
[09:57] <charl_> BODI (business objects data integrator)
[09:57] <psyatw> I could continue my studies now, maybe through Open Universiteit
[09:57] <charl_> yes! very nice
[09:57] <Kilos> cool
[09:58] <psyatw> that was the reason I started looking for jobs in the first place in the Netherlands but they didn´t have anything, not even manual jobs ...
[09:58] <charl_> the job market here is looking terrible right now
[09:58] <psyatw> so I ended up applying here in Poland
[09:58] <psyatw> yeah
[09:59] <charl_> i thought maybe it's just me but i had really bad luck while applying last year
[09:59] <psyatw> I´ve actually told my sister to apply in Poland
[09:59] <charl_> i sent out like 5 applications and only received 1 offer which i didn't want
[09:59] <psyatw> and I could help her out financially as well
[09:59] <psyatw> yeah, terrible indeed
[09:59] <charl_> but fortunately i got an extension on my current contract so i'm good for another year
[09:59] <charl_> realistically i will not immigrate to poland any time soon but i wonder what the job market is like in germany
[10:00] <charl_> i hear positive things but you always hear this and that...
[10:00] <psyatw> well, actually jobs are being moved from France and Germany to Poland as well now
[10:00] <psyatw> in my new job I will be speaking English and German to people
[10:01] <charl_> well that's my thing, my english and german are not perfect but i can manage
[10:01] <charl_> polish on the other end... i'm not even starting on it :)
[10:01] <psyatw> hahaha
[10:01] <psyatw> yeah
[10:01] <psyatw> I had an assessment of my levels of English and German
[10:02] <psyatw> I had to speak to some teacher from the language school for 15 minutes for each language
[10:02] <psyatw> and then the IT guy also interviewed me in German
[10:02] <psyatw> so you couldn´t fake it until you make it
[10:02] <charl_> my only problem is i don't really understand the north/east germans very well, their accent throws me off
[10:03] <charl_> i don't have much of a problem with the bavarians though
[10:03] <charl_> or the swiss i find generally quite easy to follow
[10:03] <psyatw> oh, I see
[10:03] <psyatw> well, swiss german sounds like some twisted version of dutch
[10:03] <charl_> exactly
[10:03] <charl_> their accent is more like our accent
[10:04] <charl_> they also have that "g" that we have, they even step it up and pronounce a "k" like that
[10:04] <psyatw> yeah
[10:05] <charl_> it's quite funny when they say "gartoffel" instead of "kartoffel" lol
[10:05] <charl_> i was like "sorry what?"
[10:05] <psyatw> I didn´t have too much trouble in Hamburg or Flensburg, but I had 5 years of German in school and took my final exam in it as well
[10:05] <psyatw> I can see how that can confuse indeed
[10:05] <psyatw> confuse you*
[10:05] <charl_> lol
[10:06] <charl_> ok back to work... ttyl all
[10:06] <psyatw> ttyl
[11:37] <magespawn> afternoon
[11:38] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[11:49] <psyatw> hello magespawn
[11:59] <magespawn> hi psyatw Kilos
[12:22] <somaunn> hi Guys
[12:22] <somaunn> hi Kilos
[12:22] <somaunn> hi nuvolari
[12:22] <somaunn> hi inetpro
[12:22] <somaunn> hi Squirm
[12:22] <Kilos> hi somaunn
[12:23] <somaunn> Kilos: please what's new on the desk
[12:24] <Squirm> hey somaunn
[12:25] <somaunn> i'm looking for method to write a script for users on my network
[12:25] <somaunn> a registry script to be applied on windows machines
[12:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> um
[12:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> I think you might have the wrong channel :-)
[12:37] <somaunn> ThatGraemeGuy: hi
[12:37] <somaunn> ThatGraemeGuy: i know it's Ubuntu/linux channel but still the most skilled guys are here and not in another place
[12:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> sometimes flattery won't get you anywhere :-)
[12:45] <Kilos> haha
[12:47] <Kilos> somaunn, do you know the script you want to write but need a tool to write it in?
[12:48] <somaunn> Kilos: tool i will use gedit
[12:48] <Kilos> so what do you want to know then?
[12:49] <Kilos> whats wrong with the win machines registries
[12:53] <Kilos> or do you want to make something go wrong with them?
[12:53] <Kilos> hehe
[12:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can usually just leave them be, and something will eventually go wrong :-)
[12:54] <Kilos> yeah. ccleaner fixes them lekker and its free
[12:59] <Squirm> somaunn: you'll have to look at something like group policies
[13:00] <Squirm> otherwise write the registry entries to a file and put it in a directory all have access to. They will have to run it manually.
[13:18] <somaunn> Squirm: thanks a lot
[14:43] <charl_> good afternoon
[14:44] <Kilos> hi charl
[14:44] <charl_> hi Kilos
[14:44] <charl_> did you know about the ubuntu font family http://font.ubuntu.com/
[14:44] <charl_> they even have their own license
[14:45] <charl_> you can use them on the web too, they are all on google fonts
[14:46] <Kilos> my pc already full of fonts
[14:46] <charl_> just interesting to me
[14:46] <charl_> i don't actually plan on using them
[14:46] <Kilos> and all i use is that utf8 or something
[14:46] <charl_> that is encoding, not a font
[14:47] <Kilos> whatever i do text only basically
[14:47] <Kilos> to change the text size i go to fonts
[14:48] <charl_> i think you're talkig about font styling, i'm talking about the actual fonts themselves
[14:48] <Kilos> i dont know what that is then
[14:49] <Kilos> i remember i had to accept some ms fonts for something
[14:49] <Kilos> tt something
[14:50] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:50] <magespawn> later all home time
[14:51] <Kilos> toods mage
[14:51] <Kilos> grerr
[15:01] <Private_User> hello all
[15:01] <Kilos> hi Private_User
[15:01] <Private_User> Hi Kilos, sorry, I forgot about the meeting yesterday
[15:04] <Kilos> np
[15:05] <Private_User> btw I went to the http://ubuntu-za.org/ web page and I get errors
[15:05] <Private_User> is it only me or is there an issue with the webpage?
[15:05] <Kilos> lemme look
[15:06] <Kilos> what errors ? it opens fine here
[15:06] <Private_User> ok where can I paste the screenshot of what I get so you can view it?
[15:07] <Kilos> sjoe i dunno where you paste them
[15:07] <Kilos> imageshack or something
[15:09] <Kilos> have you cleaned out your buntu pc yet?
[15:10] <Kilos> and does dropbox do images?
[15:11] <Private_User> nope not yet
[15:11] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:11] <Kilos> is that laziness or busyness
[15:11] <Kilos> hehe
[15:13] <Private_User> btw I have a Toshiba laptop here which was used by my sis and she spilled soup on the keyboard and now many of the keys do not work. Any ideas from the guys here what I could use to clean if I do not have alcohol or is it damage and needs to be replaced?
[15:13] <Private_User> well a bit of both Kilos :D
[15:13] <charl_> whow talk about errors... that is a huge list
[15:13] <charl_> Private_User: that's impossible to know but using anything other than alcohol you risk damaging it further
[15:13] <Kilos> get servisol from a radio shop
[15:13] <Kilos> or
[15:14] <Squirm> Private_User: you can actually get each key off to clean it, but with a laptop it's a mission
[15:14] <Squirm> distilled water would probably work
[15:14] <Kilos> spanjaadt lubricating switch cleaner it half the price and just as good
[15:14] <Squirm> or something like clear meths
[15:14] <Kilos> no water near there or alcahol
[15:14] <Squirm> Kilos: distilled water
[15:14] <Kilos> no
[15:15] <Squirm> yes :/
[15:15] <charl_> i really do not think the water being distilled makes it better
[15:15] <charl_> and how are you gonna get soup off with water
[15:15] <charl_> you're just going to spread the dirt around
[15:15] <Kilos> them switch cleaners clean remove mess and protect electronic circuitry
[15:16] <charl_> do you want *lubricating* switch cleaner though?
[15:16] <Squirm> distilled water isn't a good conductor, if it conducts at all. Besides, if the laptop keyboard is unplugged/completely powerless, as long as it dries it should be find
[15:17] <charl_> that sounds terrible to me
[15:17] <Squirm> s/find/fine
[15:17] <charl_> Squirm: that is crazy because the minute it gets in touch with the mess on the keyboard it turns conductive again
[15:17] <charl_> Squirm: that makes no sense whatsoever
[15:17] <Squirm> charl_: ok
[15:17] <Squirm> but if there's no electricity to the keyboard, there is nothing to conduct
[15:18] <charl_> no, that's not the reason you don't want to use water
[15:18] <Squirm> you can actually stick your desktop keyboard into a cold dishwasher. As long as it's bone dry before oyu connect it
[15:18] <charl_> the reason you don't want to use water is because it doesn't clean the mess up
[15:18] <Private_User> the laptop is a Toshiba Satellite C660-1E3
[15:18] <Squirm> charl_: ok
[15:18] <charl_> and i'm sorry kilos but to use lubricating switch cleaner sounds just as bad
[15:19] <charl_> you don't want lubricant in under your keyboard
[15:19] <Kilos> nope it works kiff on keys
[15:19] <charl_> alcohol is powerful for cleaning, doesn't conduct electricity, and disappears into the air quickly
[15:19] <Kilos> it doesnt leave a layer of oil there
[15:19] <charl_> ah ok
[15:19] <Squirm> Kilos: then how is it lubricating?
[15:19] <charl_> yes that's what i also want to know
[15:19] <Kilos> lookup spanjaardt lubricating switch cleaner
[15:20] <Squirm> Lubricates and cleans all electrical sliding
[15:20] <Squirm> switches and contacts
[15:20] <Kilos> of off knops on radios that get scratchy when moved also get fixed with it
[15:20] <Squirm> so it'll go under the keys
[15:21] <Kilos> ive cleaned everything on pcs with it
[15:21] <Squirm> I'd only use it to clean moving parts
[15:21] <Kilos> thats the plan to get it under the keys'
[15:21] <Kilos> you prefer coffee there?
[15:22] <Private_User> what about methlyted spirits?
[15:22] <charl_> Private_User: yes!
[15:22] <charl_> Private_User: rubbing alcohol, a.k.a. methylated spirits
[15:23] <Squirm> I've used clear meths to clean circuit boards before
[15:23] <charl_> oh sorry it turns out there is a difference between rubbing alcohol and methylated spirits
[15:24] <Kilos> nope spirits removed the coating over all the board then corrosion sets in
[15:25] <Squirm> I used it to remove corrosion :P
[15:25] <Kilos> we used to use pure alcohol to remove flux after soldering on boards in the gpo
[15:26] <charl_> hmmm
[15:26] <Private_User> ok cool thanks charl_ but now I have tried that and it worked with some keys, how I did it was remove the whole keyboard from the laptop, then remove the keys that do not work I used an ear bud to swab the area around the key
[15:27] <Private_User> I am wondering if I need to go below but not sure how to get the liquid there or should I just soak the keyboard?
[15:27] <charl_> ooh that's a tricky one
[15:27] <Kilos> we can argue all day
[15:27] <Squirm> http://www.instructables.com/id/Clean-Your-Sticky-Laptop-Keyboard/?ALLSTEPS
[15:27] <Squirm> :P
[15:28] <charl_> ah there you go
[15:28] <charl_> rubbing alcohol !
[15:28] <charl_> thanks Squirm :)
[15:28] <Squirm> ^^
[15:28] <Squirm> step by step how to
[15:29] <charl_> methylated spirits is just a more disgustig alternative that will leave you light-headed due to the poisonous compounds in it
[15:29] <charl_> so try and stay away from that and get regular rubbing alcohol
[15:29] <Kilos> you get spanjaard without the lube in too just like servisol
[15:29] <Kilos> google servisol switch cleaner
[15:30] <Squirm> charl_: the word poisonous can be up for debate too ;)
[15:30] <charl_> it says that on the wikipedia, don't look at me :P
[15:30] <Squirm> :P
[15:30] <charl_> before a few mins ago i didn't even know the difference
[15:31] <Squirm> dinner time
[15:31] <charl_> ciao all
[15:31] <Kilos> you dont drink the stuff
[15:34] <Private_User> thanks Squirm, thats more or less what I did but wondering now if I need to go deeper like between the rubber button part and the actual circuit that it comes into contact with
[15:34] <Private_User> or am I screwed and need to buy a new keyboard
[15:34] <Private_User> ?
[15:35] <theblazehen> evening
[15:35] <Kilos> hi theblazehen
[15:36] <theblazehen> How's it going with all of you?
[15:36] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[15:36] <Private_User> evening theblazehen
[15:36] <theblazehen> good and you Kilos ?
[15:37] <Golynx> Evening people
[15:38] <Kilos> good ty theblazehen hi Golynx
[15:38] <theblazehen> hey Golynx
[15:39] <Private_User> Evening Golynx
[15:42] <theblazehen> Private_User, been raining there by you?
[15:42] <Private_User> LOL
[15:44] <Kilos> hi superfly http://ubuntu-za.org/ is sick
[15:45] <Kilos> oh wasnt it moved
[15:45] <Kilos> someone said something about moving it the other day
[15:47] <Kilos> inetpro, fix it
[15:47]  * Kilos ducks
[15:47] <theblazehen> Kilos, whats broken? the site?
[15:47] <Kilos> ya
[15:48] <theblazehen> kk
[15:48] <theblazehen> :w
[15:48] <Golynx> oh my , that sites not looking good. Kinda the same like an electrician always have broken lightbulbs at his house lol
[15:48] <Kilos> strict warning: Non-static method SimplePie_Misc::parse_url() should not be called statically, assuming $this from incompatible context in /srv/www.ubuntu-za.org/sites/all/modules/gcal_events/simplepie.inc on line 8926
[15:48] <theblazehen> oops..
[15:48] <theblazehen> lolPHP
[15:48] <theblazehen> And WTF? 8926+ lines ?!
[15:49] <Kilos> ya
[15:49] <Golynx> That would be a php framework with so many lines
[15:50] <theblazehen> Golynx, yeah, I know
[15:50] <theblazehen> But why not multiple files though?!
[15:50] <Private_User> btw what do I get when I register on the site?
[15:50] <Kilos> lolipops
[15:51] <Kilos> you become a tart of the za community
[15:51] <Kilos> part
[15:51] <Private_User> LOL
[15:51] <Private_User> I mean like to I get access to more ZA resources and can become "officially" part of the ubuntu-za community?
[15:52] <Kilos> ya
[15:52] <Private_User> ok thanks Kilos
[15:52] <Kilos> im not sure wassup there. hang tight and someone will let us know
[15:52] <Private_User> LOL @ becoming a tart of the za community
[15:52] <Kilos> haha
[15:52] <Kilos> typo
[15:52] <theblazehen> yeah, tasty lol
[15:53] <Golynx> Thats what happens when dev's rush to get things done, the easiest solution is chosen first
[15:53] <Kilos> dunno how that happened p + t  are far apart
[15:53] <Private_User> lol
[15:53] <Golynx> lol
[15:53] <Kilos> must be a short in the finger controller
[15:53] <Golynx> atleast its beyong f
[15:54] <Kilos> lol
[15:54] <Golynx> lol
[15:55] <Golynx> beyond*
[15:55] <Kilos> its the controller between the ears that slips up at times
[15:56] <theblazehen> Kilos, lol, yeah
[15:56] <Golynx> A good upgrade usually fixes that = sleep :)
[15:56] <Private_User> you mean a PLBCK or PLBKC error
[15:56] <Kilos> huh?
[15:56] <Private_User> hehe
[15:57] <Kilos> i dunno these letter things
[15:57] <Private_User> Problem Lies Between Chair & Keyboard or Problem Lies Between Keyboard & Chair
[15:57] <Kilos> i know wtf because its ugly
[15:57] <Private_User> :D
[15:58] <Kilos> ya one of those
[15:58] <Kilos> and i look at each key i type
[15:58] <Kilos> with one eye
[15:59] <Kilos> tried touch typing but that is impossible
[15:59] <Private_User> you know I have been working with computers for so long but I still find it difficult to do that as well
[15:59] <Kilos> cpu cant compute anf fingers dont bent in them funny angles
[15:59] <theblazehen> Kilos, yeah, I can only do certain amount of characters
[16:00] <Kilos> s/anf/and
[16:00] <theblazehen> But not prooper way
[16:00] <theblazehen> Try DVORAK keyboard maybe?
[16:00] <Golynx> Woman are the best at touch typing. Their brains works overtime all the time :)
[16:00] <Kilos> nope this one hard enough
[16:00] <Kilos> lol
[16:01] <theblazehen> Kilos, lol
[16:01] <theblazehen> I find dvorak easier
[16:01] <theblazehen> just need blank keyboard
[16:02] <Kilos> i even miss the enter key often and hit shift
[16:02] <Kilos> or \
[16:02] <theblazehen> ah
[16:02] <Kilos> lol
[16:02] <Kilos> adds to the fun
[16:02] <theblazehen> Had same propblem on old KB
[16:04] <Private_User> DVORAK Keyboard?
[16:04] <Kilos> programmers kb
[16:04] <Kilos> Maaz, google CV
[16:04] <Maaz> Kilos: "Curriculum vitae - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curriculum_vitae :: "CV - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CV :: "Curriculum Vitae Samples - Job Searching - About.com" http://jobsearch.about.com/od/cvsamples/a/blsamplecv.htm :: "Purdue OWL: Writing the Curriculum Vitae"
[16:04] <Maaz> https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/641/01/ :: "How to write a successful CV - University of Kent" http:/…
[16:05] <Kilos> ai!
[16:05] <Kilos> maa google DVORAK Keyboard
[16:05] <Kilos> ai!
[16:05] <Private_User> LOL
[16:05] <Kilos> Maaz, google DVORAK Keyboard
[16:05] <Maaz> Kilos: "Dvorak Simplified Keyboard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard :: "Introducing the Dvorak Keyboard" http://dvorak.mwbrooks.com/ :: "The Dvorak Keyboard - MIT" http://www.mit.edu/~jcb/Dvorak/ :: "Amazon.com: Dvorak Keyboard: The Ergonomically Designed ..." http://www.amazon.com/Dvorak-Keyboard-
[16:05] <Maaz> Ergonomically-Designed-American/sim/0935309101/2 :: "What is Dvorak keyboard? - A Word Definition …
[16:07] <Private_User> if I had to change to that keyboard I will become a total newbie at computers with the time it would take me to type out stuff
[16:07] <theblazehen> Private_User, it gets better :)
[16:07] <Kilos> lol
[16:08] <Kilos> its a choice when you install ubuntu
[16:09] <Private_User> hey guys btw I was wondering why don't we have an off-topic channel as well where we can talk about anything and everything which may not be ubuntu or ICT related?
[16:10] <Private_User> then we can start talking a little nonsense when we are all bored or have nothing to do or maybe even trying to procrastinate a bit ;)
[16:10] <Private_User> lol
[16:11] <Private_User> nah just wondering unless the peeps in ZA are cool enough to allow a little off topic discussion here
[16:11] <Kilos> we do everything ubuntu here
[16:11] <Kilos> ubuntu-health ubuntu-farming etc
[16:12] <theblazehen> lol
[16:12] <Kilos> we also have an afrikaans channel
[16:12] <Kilos> #ubuntu-afr
[16:12] <Kilos> and my channel for helping windows peeps
[16:13] <Private_User> seriously, let me check the #ubuntu-afr
[16:13] <Kilos> very quiet
[16:14] <Private_User> theres like almost nobody there
[16:15] <Kilos> ya we used to chat there when this channel was busy helping someone sort a prob
[16:18] <Kilos> we helped some peeps learn afrikaans there too
[16:18] <Kilos> smile and a yank
[16:18] <Private_User> ok cool stuff
[16:19] <Kilos> yeah we not just pretty faces
[16:19] <Golynx> It will be great if people can just go to a store, and get a stable ubuntu dvd, with almost everything added in. Then just pop it in their pc's. But thats not possible i guess :/
[16:20] <Kilos> nope you will always have to update/upgrade
[16:20] <Private_User> not impossible I would think but maybe go into a store and they make it for you as you wait perhaps?
[16:20] <Golynx> And need specific drivers
[16:22] <Golynx> Private_User you have to take your pc with you then lol
[16:22] <Private_User> lol
[16:22] <Kilos> the prob then is you pay that store IT prices
[16:23] <Kilos> 500 bucks an hour or something
[16:24] <Private_User> http://www.freedomtoaster.org/
[16:27] <Private_User> I wonder if you have to pay for that machine to have it installed and setup at a specific location? but I guess thats one way to go
[16:27] <Kilos> no
[16:27] <Kilos> free
[16:27] <Kilos> you take cd or dvd with you
[16:28] <Private_User> I mean the actual "toaster"
[16:28] <Kilos> there are lots of them around the country
[16:28] <Private_User> if you wanna set it up at your shop or something
[16:28] <Kilos> mostly varsties
[16:28] <Kilos> and csir etc
[16:28] <Kilos> i dunno
[16:29] <Private_User> if I knew that existed I would have got this ubuntu sooner since my issue of getting it was bandwidth usage
[16:30] <Kilos> i went once when i just started, think it was all netbook remixes
[16:30] <Kilos> would be ok now but then i was still super doff
[16:32] <Private_User> nope not doff dude, just a newbie and a learner
[16:32] <Kilos> that too ya
[16:32] <Kilos> lol you shoulda seen me back then
[16:32] <theblazehen> hey nlsthzn
[16:33] <nlsthzn> wow that was fast theblazehen
[16:33] <Kilos> hi there neelsie
[16:33] <theblazehen> hehe yeah :)
[16:33] <nlsthzn> hiya uncle Kilos
[16:33] <Golynx> haha a newbie always got a special kinda look
[16:33] <Golynx> hi nlsthzn
[16:34] <nlsthzn> hi Golynx
[16:34] <nlsthzn> yup I am pretty new
[16:34] <nlsthzn> well pretty
[16:34] <nlsthzn> ;)
[16:34] <Kilos> joined the list for help and didnt get anywhere because they gave commands without the sudo in and nothing worked
[16:34] <nlsthzn> hooked up a 32" TV for a screen... I think it might be a bit to much
[16:34]  * nlsthzn goes for dinner
[16:35] <Kilos> then the fly explained to me how to get here
[16:35] <nlsthzn> bbl
[16:35] <Kilos> enjoy
[16:36] <Golynx> Kilos , what is the average of woman to men in the channel ?
[16:37] <Kilos> 100/0
[16:37] <Kilos> sometimes maia is here and mrs fly
[16:37] <theblazehen> Kilos, lol, thought so :)
[16:37] <theblazehen> well 31/0
[16:37] <Kilos> oh and smilyborg
[16:37] <theblazehen> Kilos, hey, was maia at SFD last year?
[16:37] <Golynx> oh their is a queen fly aswell
[16:38] <Kilos> ?
[16:38] <Kilos> oh ya and grubs
[16:38] <Kilos> larvae
[16:38] <Kilos> baby flies
[16:38] <Golynx> lol
[16:39] <Golynx> nlsthzn whats this human's gender, the "pretty" comment confused me lol
[16:41] <Private_User> lol @ Kilos
[16:43] <Kilos> he is married too with big daughter
[16:43] <Kilos> dunno if there are more
[16:43] <Kilos> he is in the UAE
[16:43] <Kilos> living on dates and camel milk
[16:44] <Golynx> oh sounds good, camel milk :p
[16:45] <Golynx> Since camels are mostly in the desert, their milk must be more sour than cow milk. Will have to try that
[16:46] <theblazehen> Golynx, sour milk? no thanks..
[16:47] <Golynx> theblazehen lol , you will beg to differ if you find yourself stranded in the desert with a fresh glass of camel milk on top of a dune calling you
[16:48] <theblazehen> Golynx, well sure
[16:48] <Golynx> lol, cow milk's the best :)
[16:59] <Kilos> wb somaunn
[16:59] <Golynx> hey somaunn
[17:01] <Squirm> Private_User: with regards to your message to me, you're just going to have to try that first. See if it helps.
[17:05] <somaunn> hi Golynx
[17:05] <somaunn> hi Kilos
[17:05] <somaunn> was really busy
[17:05] <somaunn> ektik day today
[17:06] <inetpro> superfly: I think if you remove that outdated calendar from the site everything should be fine again
[17:06] <Kilos> did you win, thats what is important
[17:06] <inetpro> Kilos: me?
[17:06] <inetpro> with what?
[17:07] <Kilos> hi inetpro ya fix our site or tell us where it moved to
[17:07] <Kilos> http://ubuntu-za.org/
[17:07] <inetpro> Kilos: think it was tunbleweed who moved it to the new server
[17:08] <Kilos> oh ya
[17:08] <Kilos> then we need the new link
[17:08] <inetpro> why?
[17:08] <Kilos> whats the good of a site that dont work
[17:09] <Kilos> and you gotta change the topic too then
[17:09] <inetpro> nee man
[17:09] <Kilos> ?
[17:09] <inetpro> why change it?
[17:09] <Kilos> go see
[17:10] <Kilos> the site is horribly broken
[17:10] <inetpro> just one simple error that gets repeated
[17:10] <inetpro> nothing that the fly can't fix
[17:10] <inetpro> just needs to spend a few minutes of time
[17:11] <inetpro> could also be as simple as installing a missing library
[17:11] <nlsthzn> Golynx, was trying to say I am not new only pretty ;)
[17:12] <inetpro> Kilos: everything else is still working fine
[17:13] <Golynx> ah yes ,good nlsthzn :)
[17:13] <Golynx> hi inetpro
[17:13] <inetpro> Golynx: hi
[17:14] <Kilos> oh ty inetpro
[17:14] <Kilos> take a break then if you cant fix it
[17:14] <Kilos> hehe
[17:14] <inetpro> you guys can all help googling for a solution
[17:15] <Kilos> you need clever peeps for that man
[17:15] <Kilos> like you and nlsthzn and flyand weed
[17:16] <Kilos> Maaz, google our site is sick
[17:16] <Maaz> Kilos: "Altitude Sickness-Topic Overview - WebMD" http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/altitude-sickness-topic-overview :: "Sickweather" http://www.sickweather.com/ :: "Website turns sick kids into superheroes - USA Today" http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/12/27/website-turns-sick-children-into-superheroes/4216687/ :: "Site turns sick kids into
[17:16] <Maaz> superheroes | Cincinnati.com | cincinnati.com" http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20131226/NEWS/31…
[17:16] <Kilos> lol
[17:16] <Golynx> whoever chose to use that php framework for the site must go dig in and fix it :)
[17:17] <inetpro> Golynx: it is drupal
[17:17] <Kilos> no dont be cheeky
[17:17] <Kilos> ask whoever to please fix it when he has a chance
[17:18] <inetpro> this is what often happens when you migrate an old site to a new server with a later version of OS, software and libraries
[17:20] <Golynx> ya true inetpro
[17:21] <inetpro> can be very painful
[17:24] <Golynx> Should take at most 30minutes to fix
[17:26] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:28]  * nlsthzn hooked PC up to 32" TV... it is a new experience... not sure if good or not ;p
[17:28] <Kilos> lotsa head movement
[17:28] <nlsthzn> yup :p
[17:29] <Kilos> sit far back
[17:29] <nlsthzn> cause it is on the desk and to damn close
[17:29] <Kilos> lol
[17:29] <somaunn> hi nlsthzn
[17:29] <somaunn> good thing
[17:29] <Kilos> turn your glasses around so they minimise
[17:29] <somaunn> how do you feel it now
[17:30] <somaunn> nlsthzn: i persolany run my PC on x2 32" LED Samsung
[17:30] <somaunn> TV
[17:30] <somaunn> it's leker
[17:30] <nlsthzn> epic
[17:31] <nlsthzn> now that I put the sharpness to 0 the text looks very good
[17:33] <Private_User> nlsthzn: mount it on the wall then you have even more desktop space
[17:33] <Golynx> you need bigger fonts lol
[17:34] <somaunn> Golynx: i've seen peoples runing windows machine with big big screen
[17:35] <somaunn> so what i did is that i bought myself x2 LED TV 32" and plugged to my PC with a dual out graphic card Nvidia
[17:36] <nlsthzn> I suspect this is a temporary arrangement , now my wife has more motivation to actually use the TV :p
[17:36] <somaunn> i can run terminal on one (big big terminal) and normal desktop on the second monitor
[17:36] <Kilos> lol
[17:36] <nlsthzn> I can only imagine why one would need such a big terminal :p
[17:37] <nlsthzn> and the fonts are bigger on this screen as it is the same resolution than my older smaller screen
[17:37] <somaunn> i feel exited everytime i type a command in there
[17:37] <Golynx> ah auto fit pixel dimentions
[17:38] <Golynx> lol
[17:38] <Golynx> leave some room for the tv too :)
[17:39] <nlsthzn> I guys it makes compiling new software an epic event
[17:41] <theblazehen> inetpro, which OS it host on?  Never heard of them though
[17:53] <Golynx> i mean Verio Web Hosting (SME)
[17:56] <theblazehen> hi psydroid
[17:56] <psydroid> hi theblazehen
[17:58] <Golynx> hi psydroid
[18:00] <psydroid> hi Golynx
[18:09] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:09] <theblazehen> night Kilos


[03:13] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:19] <Bashing-om> \o lotuspsychje
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> hey hey Bashing-om
[03:20] <Bashing-om> 'nother glorious day for you !
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> working day!
[03:22] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: And thankful to be working :)
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> hey zhanx
[03:32] <zhanx> lotuspsychje: i am doing a fun pc with mineral oil cooling etc. just trying to watch the hardware on it
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> great
[03:33] <zhanx> so not your standard dell or gateway etc
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> zhanx: there is an ubuntu certified hardware url also, but as i said, doesnt mean other systems cant run ubuntu properly
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> zhanx: best way is to just try/install
[03:34] <zhanx> yea and that costs money on the tests etc
[03:34] <zhanx> but like i said i will wing it
[05:06] <EriC^^> morning guys
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[05:07] <EriC^^> what's up?
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> nothing much, chill before work EriC^^
[05:08] <EriC^^> nice
[05:08] <EriC^^> it's raining here
[05:09] <EriC^^> damn now it's sunny
[05:09] <EriC^^> or i was dreamings it's raining :P
[05:09]  * EriC^^ gets out of bed to check
[05:09] <xangua> Looking nice https://youtu.be/92s0aYnD3DE
[05:09] <EriC^^> yeah it's raining
[05:11] <EriC^^> wow that's pro
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> got plans for today EriC^^
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> hey baizon xangua ducasse
[05:31] <baizon> hi lotuspsychje
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: did you vote already? https://goo.gl/forms/y33GYsiEe6BH6m3t1
[05:36] <baizon> what are the results?
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> baizon: dont think canonical gives that out
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> baizon: just collects 1 vote/per google account
[05:37] <baizon> ehh
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> *yet
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> i didnt excpect canonical would influence gnome...
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> as they told at first not to interfere with 'gnomes ways'
[05:47] <xangua> Hi
[05:49] <xangua> Just voted
[05:52] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: not much
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> tnx xangua
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> hi fr0tzed
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> have a nice1 guys
[06:46] <baizon> omg
[06:47] <baizon> someone stole my cpu!
[08:50] <lordievader[m]> Good morning
[09:02] <EriC^^> morning lordievader[m]
[09:02] <lordievader[m]> Hey EriC^^ , how are you doing?
[09:02] <EriC^^> good thanks, you?
[09:08] <lordievader[m]> Doing good here
[10:32] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:40] <brunch875> g'monrnin' BluesKaj
[10:40] <brunch875> hope the night was refreshing and you're full of energy
[10:41] <oerheks> meurning
[10:42] <BluesKaj> hey brunch875, not exactly, but I'll get by
[10:42] <brunch875> I recommend plenty of water then!
[10:44] <lordievader[m]> Hey BluesKaj
[10:44] <lordievader[m]> How are you doing?
[10:44] <BluesKaj> still dealing with a virulent cold, It's almost done, but the cough is persistent :/
[10:44] <BluesKaj> hi lordievader[m]
[10:45] <oerheks> When you start getting wings, you have the birdflu?
[10:47] <lordievader[m]> BluesKaj: Annoying, glad it is getting beter.
[10:50] <BluesKaj> oerheks, I got the rockin' pneumonia and the boogie-woogie flu :-)
[10:57] <brunch875> damn
[15:01] <oerheks> visual studio snap ... http://news.softpedia.com/news/you-can-now-install-microsoft-s-visual-studio-code-ide-as-a-snap-on-ubuntu-linux-515882.shtml
[17:18] <Bashing-om> Here I go again .. all rested up and raring to go :)
[17:20] <ducasse> hiya Bashing-om :)
[17:22] <Bashing-om> ducasse: \o .. good day on our neighborhood ?
[17:23] <ducasse> Bashing-om: the usual lunacy :)
[17:24] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Oh ! .. the things that keep us sane :P
[17:30] <daftykins> ^_^
[17:37] <immu> daftykins, Bashing-om ducasse BluesKaj hi all, and Bashing-om are you of senior age
[17:38] <Bashing-om> immu: How do you define "senior age " - Old enough to know better, too young to resist ?
[17:39] <immu> like BluesKaj is of senior age ? so much so he is uncle grandpa :) Bashing-om
[17:44] <Bashing-om> immu: We;, yeah .. I fit into the grampaw catagory :)
[17:47] <immu> how old are you? then Bashing-om
[17:50] <Bashing-om> immu: Last account I took was over 65 years of age .
[17:50] <immu> awww, now we have two uncle grandpa's :)
[17:51] <Bashing-om> immu: :) .. " do not do as we do; do as we say do "
[17:52] <immu> oke Bashing-om
[17:53]  * oerheks age is 7x7
[17:55] <Bashing-om> *oerheks* old 'nuf to know better too .
[17:58] <ducasse> oerheks: are you counting in dog-years?
[18:04] <immu> ducasse, lol oerheks
[18:11] <immu> its nice to have elders here :)
[18:12] <Bashing-om> immu: let me remind you - that I have seen 14 year olds that can run circles of knowledge/ability around me ! - all depends on what you seek :)
[18:13] <immu> fair enought
[18:28] <immu> fair enough :) Bashing-om
[18:37] <oerheks> wraf
[19:28] <BluesKaj> Gonna watch Blade Runner tonight , newly released on bluray withenhanced video and 5.1 AC3 audio ...great old movies
[19:28] <BluesKaj> one of the great old movies, rather
[19:28] <ducasse> blade runner is a classic :)
[19:29] <BluesKaj> sure is ducasse, nice to see it in re-release
[19:31] <ducasse> "i watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the tannhäuser gate..." :)
[19:32] <BluesKaj> LA 2019 :-)
[19:34] <immu> cool BluesKaj
[19:34] <ducasse> BluesKaj: might be going to see the new alien movie tomorrow, if we get tickets. i've been a big fan since the first film came out, even though i was way too young to see it - it scared me stiff at the time. :)
[19:35] <BluesKaj> ducasse,  yeah, 1977 iirc
[19:37] <BluesKaj> oops 1979
[19:41] <ducasse> i was probably 8 or 9 when i saw it on video, a good ten years too soon ;)
[19:47] <ducasse> BluesKaj: was just thinking of watching 2001 again the other day, another one of the classics. very different, though.
[19:47] <BluesKaj> ducasse,  ever read the book it's based on , Childhood's End ?...excellent read
[19:48] <BluesKaj> arthur C Clark
[19:48] <ducasse> yep, read most of clark's stuff.
[19:49] <ducasse> _long_ ago, though.
[19:49] <BluesKaj> cool stuff ...yeah a while ago alright
[19:50] <ducasse> i actually liked rendezvous with rama, but not the rest of the rama series...
[19:51] <BluesKaj> never read the rama books
[19:53] <ducasse> iirc they're not very popular. imo how you perceive a lot of sf depends on what you've read before - how new/interesting the concepts are to you.