[14:45] <daftykins> brontosaurusrex: he was doing it via nautlius, not command line
[14:45] <samthewildone> I'm having a problem putting a file on my usb. > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_rZKP9LDqUFOUZ4dmY4UjMxbDg/edit?usp=sharing
[14:46] <brontosaurusrex> oh
[14:46] <samthewildone> It's a 16GB USB and the file is about 4.5GB and the drive is empty.
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> Basketball  this would be a better place to ask, i guess http://www.wps.com/support/
[14:46] <daftykins> samthewildone: the file system on your flash drive doesn't support greater than 4GB files
[14:46] <samthewildone> fat32 ?
[14:46] <k1l_> samthewildone: fat can only take 4GB files
[14:46] <daftykins> samthewildone: you're going to need to format it with a file system that does, like exFAT
[14:46] <samthewildone> oh
[14:46] <daftykins> or NTFS
[14:47] <samthewildone> which is better ?
[14:47] <daftykins> there is no better, only what works
[14:47] <daftykins> depends what OS you're copying from and to
[14:47] <samthewildone> Linux -> Linux | Linux -> Windows
[14:48] <brontosaurusrex> samthewildone: i'd go with ntfs
[14:48] <k1l_> samthewildone: use ntfs
[14:48] <k1l_> not the fastest but it will work
[14:48] <samthewildone> I'm trying to mount it via gparted but, get a error.
[14:48] <daftykins> samthewildone: you don't mount it to format it
[14:48] <samthewildone> Partition 1 isn't aligned to cylinder boundaries.  This is still unsupported.
[14:48] <daftykins> samthewildone: go format it on the windows PC as NTFS
[14:48] <daftykins> simplest method
[14:48] <samthewildone> err I meant its mounted but, I cannot get into the settings
[14:49] <samthewildone> ...
[14:49] <samthewildone> what if I don't have a windows computer ?
[14:49] <ash123> Hello
[14:49] <ash123> I am back
[14:49] <ash123> I am trying to use "sudo use aptitude update && aptitude install firmware-atheros" in the Terminal but it is saying that 'use' is not a valid command
[14:49] <ash123> Can anyone help?
[14:49] <daftykins> samthewildone: then you're in for more work
[14:50] <samthewildone> lol I have a windows computer
[14:50] <samthewildone> I'll brb'
[14:50] <daftykins> ash123: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install aptitude"
[14:50] <k1l_> ash123: remove the "use" in that command
[14:50] <daftykins> samthewildone: i knew you did, i knew you were just being lazy :)
[14:50] <ash123> will it still install the atheros-firmware I need for my usb adapter?
[14:50] <mn2010> samthewildone: if you didnt have a windows computer, you would just format it in gparted.
[14:51] <k1l_> ash123: aptitude is not installed per default on ubuntu.
[14:51] <daftykins> mn2010: that's what he was just trying before running into errors, you'd see that if you scrolled up one screen or two
[14:51] <ash123> oh ok, i am a bit confused between this 'aptitude' and 'atheros-firmware'
[14:51] <ash123> i know i need atheros-firmware for my particular usb adapter
[14:51] <minimec> ash123: There is no firmware-atheros package in current ubuntu distributions anymore, even though that would give you a different error I guess... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=firmware-atheros&searchon=names
[14:52] <ash123> oh ok
[14:52] <ash123> so is this 'aptitude' used for USB adapters (wifi)?
[14:52] <k1l_> ash123: "aptitude" is a program you install packages from the ubuntu repos. the ubuntu standard is "apt-get" which is installed. so you can make "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firmware-atheros
[14:52] <k1l_> ash123: no.
[14:52] <ash123> oh ok
[14:52] <mn2010> kvirc has been being a pain lately
[14:52] <k1l_> aptitude is not related for your wifi stuff anyway
[14:52] <minimec> ash123: alternative to apt-get to manage the package system
[14:53] <ash123> ah i see
[14:53] <k1l_> ash123: see my last command. use this
[14:53] <mn2010> i couldnt scroll, it was beyond my join message
[14:53] <ash123> right then, i will need to boot back into ubuntu (cant get a stable internet connection for more than 5 seconds at the moment) and try what you said
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> ash123  apt-get ... apt-itude ... syn-apt-ic ... that's the pun ... apt = advanced package tool
[14:54] <ash123> i see
[14:54] <maniteja> Hi my laptop losses wifi connection all the time lease help
[14:54] <pin> hi
[14:54] <ash123> i will be back shortly
[14:55] <pin> oke
[14:55] <pin> where are you come from
[14:55] <maniteja> India
[14:55] <pin> wow
[14:55] <pin> im from indonesia
[14:55] <maniteja> Cool
[14:56] <pin> what os do you use maniteja>
[14:56] <maniteja> So any idea about my problem
[14:56] <maniteja> Ubuntu 14.04
[14:56] <pin> ok ok.. im use backbox linux
[14:57] <maniteja> Ohhh
[14:57] <name_> Hello! Does anybody know what the command for starting up the so-called Zorin menu in AWN is?
[14:57] <unik> I don't like u14.04 unity...
[14:57] <spidersenses> guys i got a problem, after installing steam, day of defeat source and counter strike source. The restarting my machine a login screen appears (no login screen appeared before). When i put my login name and pw the little login box turns white and nothing happens. if i hit the esc the login box resets. what's the problem?
[14:57] <pin> why you dont like
[14:57] <spidersenses> i got ubuntu 13.10
[14:57] <k1l_> name_: well, i would suggest to ask the zorin guys
[14:58] <pin> what is zorin
[14:58] <k1l_> spidersenses: make first sure you update to 14.04
[14:58] <k1l_> !zorin
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> spidersenses  13.10 is no longer supported, upgrade first, then ask again
[14:58] <name_> @kil_ I did, but the channel isnt very frequented.
[14:58] <daftykins> pin: a different distribution based on ubuntu
[14:58] <maniteja> I just love ubuntu but the wifi issue so bad
[14:58] <k1l_> pin: zorin is a not supported spin off from ubuntu. like the backbox you use
[14:58] <pin> i love backbox linux :D
[14:58] <maniteja> it looses wifi all the time
[14:59] <spidersenses> ok thaks k1l
[14:59] <daftykins> pin: general chat is not appropriate here, please join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat. support questions only in here
[14:59] <pin> why not supported kil_ ?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> !eol | pin
[15:00] <k1l_> !derivates | pin
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> oops, wrong factoid
[15:00] <daftykins> i was going to say.
[15:01] <maniteja> Some one please help i just moved from win8 to ubuntu it absolutley stunning and i love it it sound great looks great feels great no load on mem and cpu except for the wifi
[15:01] <maniteja> it looses connection all the time
[15:01] <k1l_> maniteja: give more details: what ubuntu exactly? what wifi chip? etc etc
[15:01] <maniteja> Ubuntu 14.04
[15:02] <maniteja> chip is Ralink
[15:02] <maniteja> i guess
[15:02] <k1l_> "lspci" in terminal will tell you exactly
[15:02] <maniteja> ok
[15:03] <maniteja> Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[15:05] <maniteja> Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[15:06] <maniteja> this is chip
[15:06] <daftykins> maniteja: you need to prefix each response with the nickname of who was helping you so they can respond
[15:06] <daftykins> k1l_: ^
[15:06] <Mrokii> Hello, not directly Ubuntu-related, but can somebody tell me how I can stop Thunderbird and Firefox from creating crash reports?
[15:07] <daftykins> Mrokii: in the settings, turn off... crash reports
[15:07] <k1l_> maniteja: well, seems like this chip is a problem at all
[15:07] <maniteja> k1l_: So it is the hardware that is faulty?
[15:08] <k1l_> maniteja: that is the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1049466  see command 177 and 178 which seem to be a solution
[15:08] <topdownjimmy> I can't seem to connect to IRC, either with Irssi or with WeeChat. I think it's a failure to connect to port 6667, though I can't imagine what's preventing this. Any ideas?
[15:09] <daftykins> topdownjimmy: please refer to #freenode
[15:09] <maniteja> k1l_: thank you so much will try the fix and will let you know
[15:09] <topdownjimmy> daftykins: I also can't connect to efnet.
[15:10] <Poppabear> topdownjimmy: why, you glined ?
[15:10] <topdownjimmy> Poppabear: I doubt it
[15:10] <topdownjimmy> I can connect via a MacBook on the same network and with the same username
[15:10] <Mrokii> daftykins: I haven't found such a setting in Thunderbird at least.
[15:11] <topdownjimmy> It's just timing out.
[15:11] <k1l_> topdownjimmy: make sure the router is setup properly and not blocking /forwarding ports to another lan client
[15:12] <daftykins> topdownjimmy: sounds like network connectivity issues. DNS and general online functionality with websites good, besides the IRC clients issues?
[15:12] <daftykins> topdownjimmy: outdated server names used in the clients maybe?
[15:12] <topdownjimmy> daftykins: Yeah everything else seems fine.
[15:12] <topdownjimmy> daftykins: I've reset the settings in both WeeChat and Irssi and still timing out
[15:13] <daftykins> topdownjimmy: right so what hostnames are they configured to hit for freenode?
[15:14] <topdownjimmy> I've tried dickson.freenode.net and just plain freenode.net
[15:14] <maniteja> k1l_: i have already tried this solution it definetley reduced the problem a bit but its not gone completely i still loose connection may be i will buy a new powerfull router may that will fix the issue
[15:14] <daftykins> topdownjimmy: some are down since the recent hacks and i don't know which, visit freenode's website and use their proper round-robin hostname, something like chat.freenode.net
[15:15] <Wryness> Hi. I need a function or script to delete a dash from the beginning of a line in a text file but only if the dash is the first character in a line. Does anybody have an idea how to achiev that (perhaps with grep, awk or sed)?
[15:15] <topdownjimmy> daftykins: Ha, argh, :slaps forehead:, chat.freenode.net did it. Thanks!!
[15:16] <daftykins> topdownjimmy: so #freenode would've assisted after all ;)
[15:16] <daftykins> nevermind, enjoy
[15:16] <topdownjimmy> :shakes fist:
[15:16] <topdownjimmy> Thanks
[15:25] <MagicSpud> hello trying to compile snapscreenshot it wont install anybody could tell how to fix it? http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=77460
[15:28] <MagicSpud> well I just mkdir /usr/local/man/man1 and I think that worked
[15:29] <rtdos> not sure where i should be asking this here or in a another channel, but i've got python 2x installed (as default) on both FEDORA as well as including UBUNTU and since 2x seems to still be the default in many distro's, how can i make python 3x the default (i.e. when i type python rather than python3)? hope i'm making sense here.
[15:32] <name_> @rtdos If you compile it from source ive read somewhere that by installing it with "make install" it automatically will be the default one.
[15:33] <daftykins> name_: we don't advise compiling software over packages, here
[15:33] <name_> Also, you can put: alias python=python3   into .bashrc or .bash_aliases
[15:33] <name_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/320996/make-default-python-command-to-use-python-3
[15:34] <name_> @daftykins: I see, sorry.
[15:34] <bazhang> !checkinstall | name_
[15:35] <geirha> yeah, overriding alias or function is the safest. Scripts may brake if you change the version of /usr/bin/python
[15:35] <geirha> gah, *break
[15:37] <geirha> python 3.x is not fully backward compatible with python 2.x
[15:37] <name_> BTW can somebody tell me why there are multiple instances of the same python binary file in /usr/bin?
[15:37] <name_> Its a total waste of space, just to have it under different names.
[15:38] <geirha> name_: what?
[15:38] <ax562> no luck on the oc
[15:38] <geirha> name_: symlinks doesn't take up much space ...
[15:38] <name_> If everyone follows this strategy i understand why OS-es are so damn chunky.
[15:39] <name_> Is it a symlink?
[15:39] <rtdos> thanks, name_
[15:39] <name_> They all show as binary files and the size is shown as the same, too.
[15:40] <name_> rtdos np, i just came across this thread today anyway.
[15:40] <gioan> #
[15:41] <geirha> name_: odd, python and python2 are symlinks to python2.7 here
[15:41] <fecwre> with iptables, how do i specify `if not <source ip>`?
[15:42] <name_> @geirha im using ZorinOS, maybe showing them ax binary files sized 3.3 MB each is some kind of bug.
[15:42] <name_> *showing them as...
[15:43] <geirha> name_: Well this is #ubuntu ...  anyway, may be they're hard links in that OS. ls -i should tell you if they are
[15:44] <name_> Really? ok, ill try.
[15:44] <geirha> they'll have the same inode number
[15:47] <name_> Well, output is: *263491 python* for *ls -i python*, simply *python2* for *ls -i python2* but with different color and next *python2.7* again in a third, different color.
[15:50] <geirha> colors doesn't tell me much.  try:   command ls -il /usr/bin/python{,2,2.7}
[15:50] <geirha> command in order to avoid any alias or function you may have for ls
[15:52] <zin3> Hello, I'm having problems trying to change my dns number
[15:53] <zin3> I created a post on ubuntu forums, if someone could help I would be eternally grateful =)
[15:53] <zin3> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2245138&p=13126340#post13126340
[15:54] <name_> geirha, well, the numbers are different for them.
[15:55] <name_> the output is: 263491 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root       9 zář 21 10:29 /usr/bin/python -> python2.7
[15:55] <name_> 263492 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root       9 zář 21 10:29 /usr/bin/python2 -> python2.7
[15:55] <name_> 263493 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3349512 bře 23  2014 /usr/bin/python2.7
[15:55] <name_> No kidding, even the funny accented characters are there!
[15:55] <harley642> hey, does anyone have any experience setting up zentyal in esxi?
[15:55] <harley642> Mainly related to networking issues
[15:56] <geirha> name_: symlinks, just like in ubuntu
[15:56] <geirha> the L in lrwxrwxrwx
[15:58] <camtron> Is there a way to make Chrome's window buttons be on the right in GNOME shell, without having to check "Use system title bar and border"? In other distros, Chrome's window buttons are on the right.
[15:58] <name_> I see, thanks. I'm relieved!
[15:58] <geirha> name_: where the funny accented characters are, they should be a representation of the month name in your language. If they look odd, your terminal emulator and locale have mismatch of character encodings
[16:00] <name_> Well, i never bother to give my real location when i install linux but i always set the language to be english,
[16:00] <geirha> name_: does running ''locale'' agree with that?
[16:01] <name_> Probably not because the locale is set as Prague or something...
[16:01] <name_> Thus the slavish characters.
[16:02] <geirha> Well, if zář is a correct month abbreviation in that language, then all is good
[16:04] <owen1> i have an app with this line in it's config file: connect = host=/var/run/postgresql. i assume it's the binary of postgresql. is this the path to the binary: /usr/lib/postgresql/9.3/bin/postgres ?
[16:06] <geirha> owen1: no, it's a socket created by postgresql
[16:06] <owen1> geirha: oh. how do i find the binary?
[16:06] <designbybeck_> In Ubuntu 14.04 64bit My Wacom tablet can plug and play, I have to restart before it sees it again. This use to not be the case. Any ideas?
[16:09] <funkster> How can i set my resolution to a fixed size on boot? xorg file and xrandr are a bit confusing. can anyone assist?
[16:09] <geirha> owen1: /usr/lib/postgresql/9.3/bin/postgres is the executable, and /var/run/postgresql is a socket
[16:09] <daftykins> owen1: "which <program>" ?
[16:09] <geirha> hm. Or maybe I'm mixing things
[16:10] <geirha> no, not "which", use "type", never "which"
[16:11] <pras> hi .. my boot folder is almost full.. and i have tried deleting old kernals using synaptic & Ubuntu tweak. but there are other files which which is not getting listed in either application
[16:11] <k1l_> pras: please show a "ls -al /boot" in pastebin please
[16:11] <pras> i have ubuntu 14.04  32 bit system
[16:12] <camtron> geirha: What's the difference? I've always used 'which'.
[16:12] <name_> Seeya!
[16:12] <daftykins> geirha: to locate the binary? that's what which is for...
[16:12] <mn2010> -_-
[16:13] <geirha> camtron: which is a shell scripts that look through PATH for an executable. type tells you what actually gets run
[16:13] <geirha> camtron: that is, type will tell you if it's a shell builtin, shell keyword, function or alias. which will not.
[16:14] <daftykins> ah interesting
[16:16] <owen1> geirha: type postgres => ash: type: postgres: not found
[16:16] <camtron> Oh, I see, so type tells you that 'ls' is aliased to 'ls --color=auto'. 'which' just simply tells you the path of ls.
[16:17] <owen1> geirha: i think the binary is here - /usr/lib/postgresql/9.3/bin like u said earlier
[16:17] <geirha> anyway, just checked, /var/run/postgres is a directory, typically holding the pid file and a socket when postgres is running
[16:18] <ParanoidAndroid> salve
[16:19] <ParanoidAndroid> dani
[16:19] <daftykins> !it
[16:19] <geirha> owen1: yes, but that should be irrelevant. Why do you need to know that?
 http://pastebin.com/CPDkDJdj
[16:20] <ParanoidAndroid> thanks
[16:20] <daftykins> pras: oh my word you have hundreds of kernels
[16:21] <geirha> 15 is hundreds now?
[16:21] <pras> i am not a well versed in linux ... so any help is great
[16:21] <daftykins> pras: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.5.0-17-generic linux-image-3.5.0-25-generic linux-image-3.5.0-26-generic linux-image-3.5.0-28-generic linux-image-3.5.0-29-generic
[16:21] <daftykins> geirha: don't be a pedant
[16:22] <k1l_> pras: ok that is a lot. please show a "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[16:22] <geirha> daftykins: :)
[16:23] <pras> http://pastebin.com/jig0et45
[16:23] <pras> that is what i get for apt-get remove
[16:24] <daftykins> pras: ah ok weird, my fault for barging in on someone elses ticket, feel free to do as k1l_ instructed :)
[16:24] <daftykins> k1l_: apologies
 :http://pastebin.com/nu7dmHF6
[16:25] <puff> Good afternoon.  Lately I've been having all sorts of problems with chrome.  At first it was that if I left chrome running with a couple dozen tabs open in different windows,I'd come back and chrome would be chewing up 99% cpu.  I tried creating a new user profile (which appears to be standard advice for chrome problems) and now literally every third or fourth page I get the "aw snap!" error page.  I restored the old user profile and
[16:25] <puff> it's still the same.  I removed/reinstalled chrome and it's still the same.
[16:25] <puff> Did my question get truncated?
[16:26] <k1l_> pras: that are the only ones?
[16:26] <DJones> puff: No, not truncated as far as I can see
[16:26] <pras> k1l_ : yes
[16:27] <puff> DJones: Thanks.,
[16:27] <geirha> pras: Do you perhaps have a /boot partition shared with other OSes?
[16:28] <pras> geirha:i have a windows 7 ... but i have not been able to boot in to ever since i upgraded to 1404
[16:28] <owen1> geirha: there is a config file with this line: connect = host=/var/run/postgresql user=postgresuser dbname=readeefdbname (https://github.com/urandom/readeef/blob/master/README.md) so i assume it's the binary. thoughts?
[16:30] <geirha> owen1: /var/run/postgresql is NOT the binary, no. Why would you think that?
[16:30] <owen1> geirha: oh. so what is it?
[16:31] <k1l_> pras: does "sudo apt-get autoremove" remove some not used packages?
[16:32] <geirha> owen1: When connecting to a remote postgresql server, you usually connect via a tcp socket
[16:32] <pras> k1l_: how do i test it ??
[16:32] <daftykins> pras: just run that command
[16:32] <geirha> owen1: When connecting to a local postgresql server, you usually connect via a unix socket. It's saying that said unix socket can be found in the given dir
[16:32] <k1l_> pras: yep, just run it
[16:33] <geirha> owen1: ls -la /var/run/postgresql
[16:33] <pras> Reading package lists... Done
[16:33] <pras> Building dependency tree
[16:33] <pras> Reading state information... Done
[16:33] <pras> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
[16:33] <daftykins> !paste
[16:33] <camtron> How can you add items to Ubuntu's "System Settings" (gnome-control-center)?
[16:34] <camtron> I want to be able to access unity-tweak-tool and ccsm through System Settings.
[16:34] <k1l_> pras: hmm. are you sure the "dpkg -l | linux-image" results are the only ones? there must be way more than this 4 lines
[16:34] <owen1> geirha: i see 9.3-main.pid and .s.PGSQL.5432 and .s.PGSQL.5432.lock  the pid is the unix socket?
[16:35] <pras> those are the only ones
[16:35] <geirha> owen1: no, the one with s in the first column is the socket. --> srwxrwxrwx  1 postgres ...
[16:36] <pras> k1l_:those are the only ones
[16:36] <owen1> geirha: oh. so 's' stand for socket.
[16:36] <geirha> s in the first column means (unix) socket, - means regular file, d means directory etc...
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> camtron  is this useful (12.10) http://www.bestubuntu.com/add-custom-items-to-system-settings-window-in-ubuntu-12-10.html
[16:36] <k1l_> pras: than something more is broken on your system. i get 51 lines on my system
[16:36] <owen1> so when a program want to connect to the db it accesses the socket file?
[16:36] <k1l_> pras: please install "pastebinit" and run this command: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | pastebinit" it will show a link that you can copy to here
[16:37] <pras> k1l_: ok
[16:38] <k1l_> pras: daftykins i need to leave in the next 5 mins. so if you want to take over that support issue that would be great.
[16:38] <daftykins> k1l_: will do, cya soon
[16:39] <pras> k1l_: thank you
[16:39] <daftykins> pras: if you're absolutely certain you have no other OS installs besides ubuntu 14.04 and Windows, you might as well just delete some of these older kernels (or for safety, move the files to another path that does have space so they're not causing you a problem)
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> camtron  the howto I suggested works, just tried
[16:41] <camtron> Thanks, MonkeyDust.
[16:42] <pras> daftykins: yes i am sure i have only onle Ubuntu & a Windows partition . i have tried deleting and moving it using the file manager but unsucessfull
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> camtron  next time, i'll try first, then suggest ;)
[16:43] <daftykins> pras: ok lets be devils, run this "sudo rm /boot/initrd.img-3.5* "
[16:44] <pras> daftykins: nothing happened
[16:44] <daftykins> pras: that's a good thing, it won't tell you :) that will have saved 60MB
[16:44] <daftykins> pras: ok now run this "sudo rm /boot/initrd.img-3.8* "
[16:45] <pras> daftykins: same nothing
[16:46] <daftykins> pras: like i just said it won't tell you anything for just deleting files, the command completes and it returns to the prompt
[16:46] <daftykins> pras: now run "df -h" and see how much space is free on /boot
[16:46] <pras> daftykins: yes
[16:47] <pras> daftykins: i have 54% left
[16:47] <pras> daftykins: thats great
[16:47] <camtron> MonkeyDust: It works for me!
[16:48] <daftykins> pras: cool, that should be enough to be getting on with - though you can definitely delete the rest of the 3.5 and 3.8 files
[16:48] <pras> daftykins: delete using file manager ??
[16:49] <daftykins> pras: to do it graphically you would have to run nautilus with gksudo, all you have to do is look at your pastebin - http://pastebin.com/CPDkDJdj - and delete the files you don't need
[16:49] <faust> Silly question time: in the LVM man it says that I can use several sub-fixes when specifying the "--size" option to "lvcreate". For example it says that "M" stands for "megabytes". Are they actual megabytes or mebibytes?
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> mebibytes?
[16:50] <daftykins> mibibytes i think you mean there
[16:50] <daftykins> pras: e.g. before we deleted the largest of them, the initrd.img's, but now you can delete the rest, e.g. start with the abi's
[16:50] <daftykins> pras: "sudo rm /boot/abi-3.5* " and "sudo rm /boot/abi-3.8* "
[16:50] <faust> daftykins: I mean mebibyte
[16:50] <faust> s*
[16:51] <sleipnir> morning all, I was wondering if it is possible to boot multiple PCs from a single USB stick. that is I want to have several machines that do NOT boot unless a USB stick is inserted. Is this possible? If so what keywords do I search for?
[16:51] <daftykins> faust: oh they're the same.
[16:51] <faust> MonkeyDust: Yes, I mean. Is it the "mega" intended as Nth power of 10 or Nth power of 2?
[16:52] <faust> daftykins: ok
[16:52] <daftykins> both mean base 2
[16:53] <pras> daftykins: that got me a lot of space
[16:53] <pras> daftykins: thank you very much
[16:53] <daftykins> pras: now repeat for config- System.map- and vmlinuz- ok?
[16:54] <pras> daftykins: yes i will
[16:56] <faust> daftykins: megabyte mean base 10 according to IEC
[16:56] <daftykins> faust: yes, yes i know. we were referring to mibibytes and mebibytes
[16:57] <faust> and SI
[16:57] <faust> daftykins: ah ok
[16:58] <faust> however I'm interested in what does "megabytes" mean according to LVM team, nobody knows? :P
[16:58] <daftykins> nope someone would've replied
[16:58] <daftykins> faust: #linux might be a better place to ask too
[16:58] <faust> ok thanks
[16:59] <faust> #linux seems to be +i o.o
[16:59] <Fuchs> it is +if
[16:59] <Fuchs> so you get forwarded to ##linux
[16:59] <Fuchs> join that instead
[16:59] <faust> Fuchs: thank you
[16:59] <Fuchs> You're welcome
[17:01] <pras> daftykins: thank you very much
[17:01] <daftykins> no problem
[17:01] <pras> daftykins: have a great day ahead
[17:02] <daftykins> ty, you too :)
[17:03] <pras> daftykins: thank you once again
[17:17] <nemo> So. I completely screwed up my SO's home setup for doing audio work after the upgrade from 13.10 (unsupported) to 14.04.
[17:17] <nemo> The problem was gstreamer 0.1 playing of realmedia files
[17:17] <kernix> hey all
[17:17] <nemo> even after installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, I was still kinda stuck
[17:18] <nemo> looks like it plays fine in gstreamer 1.0 apps
[17:18] <nemo> if anyone has any ideas for what I should do to unbreaker it ☹
[17:18] <nemo> I'm kinda flailing
[17:19] <alipoor90> Hi , What are refresh,retry,expire,min TTL values for SOA record ? are they default values for entire zone or just for SOA record it self? and what is purpose of SOA record? do it is just to provide support email address or there is anything else?
[17:20] <nemo> here's a sample fail http://m8y.org/tmp/gstwtf.txt
[17:20] <daftykins> alipoor90: this is not a DNS / hosting support channel
[17:21] <nemo> gstreamer channel guys said missing codec, but... I'm unclear why the decoding would work in 1.0 but not 0.1
[17:21] <nemo> surely they'd use the same codec
[17:21] <nemo> and the gst 0.1 plugin for realmedia is there.
[17:26] <superbob97> Hi guys, how do I download a .tar.bz2 file? I'm trying to install deadbeef
[17:29] <nemo> superbob97: using anything you like? wget and curl are fairly popular
[17:29] <nemo> or your web browser, whatever
[17:30] <nemo> superbob97: looks like you shouldn't be doing that anyway though
[17:30] <superbob97> nemo: but what command would I use in the terminal
[17:30] <superbob97> I'm a complete noob
[17:30] <nemo> superbob97: the http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/download.html page says to please use their ppa
[17:30] <superbob97> okay
[17:30] <squinty> superbob97:  http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/download.html
[17:30] <nemo> superbob97: https://launchpad.net/~starws-box/+archive/ubuntu/deadbeef-player
[17:31] <nemo> set it up as w/ a usual ppa. instructions are on that page as with any ppa
[17:32] <superbob97> thanks guys
[17:32] <nemo> np
[17:38] <elichai2> hey
[17:38] <elichai2> how do i set up an proxy that will work on all the programs runnings?
[17:40] <Gatis> Hi i have application .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications but why i don't see them in Lubuntu menu?
[17:40] <drox> hello i have a problem with ubuntu 14.04 i can't  to active any program because my pc tell me it don't find
[17:41] <ssare> i tried installing vm extpack but
[17:41] <ssare> gave me VBoxExtPackRegister returned VERR_VERSION_MISMATCH, pReg=0000000000000000 ErrInfo='Helper version mismatch - expected 0x10002 got 0x10001'.
[17:41] <ssare> anyone can help?
[17:42] <squinty> ssare:  there is a virtualbox channel   #vbox
[17:43] <ssare> sorry i'm nu to ubuntu... pls be more specific
[17:44] <ssare> squinty: how do i get to that channel?
[17:45] <squinty> ssare:  type   /join #vbox    or use your irc software to look up the server lists channels
[17:45] <Gidz> hello all
[17:46] <Gidz> this is Gideon
[17:46] <Gidz> this group is silent
[17:46] <Gidz> :(
[17:47] <Gatis> Hi i have application .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications but why i don't see them in Lubuntu menu?
[17:49] <Gatis> Ah they were hidden.
[17:52] <Gidz> dan this
[17:52] <Gidz> *damn
[17:58] <cmonordi> hi
[17:58] <sleipnir> hi, is it possible to copy a dicrectory to another location however only coping files with a certain extension?
[17:59] <bash_rulz> hello there, i'm having trouble opening up the packet manager gui although it works just fine in the command line, why is that?
[17:59] <nemo> ok. #gstreamer explained it is just bad packaging on the part of ubuntu
[17:59] <nemo> so. at least I know what's going on
[18:00] <reisio> cmanns__: heyo
[18:00] <reisio> sleipnir: yes, although the simplest way would be to copy all of it and then delete the files you don't want
[18:01] <bekks> sleipnir: cp -r yourdir/*.jpg ...
[18:01] <bekks> thats the mopst easy way.
[18:01] <sleipnir> reisio, do you have a link to a tutorial that shows how it could be automated
[18:01] <camtron> How reliable is alien for converting .rpm packages to .deb packages for Ubuntu?
[18:01] <xor-freenet> when selecting the "ubuntu archive mirror country" during the textmode installer, which mirrors is the primary central server?
[18:01] <sleipnir> bekks, oh, I see, that doesn't look abd at all
[18:02] <bekks> camtron: There is no guarantee for those packages to be working at all.
[18:02] <reisio> sleipnir: hang on
[18:02] <michele_> hi! How  to close a process loked?
[18:02] <smart_developer> What's the difference in the nature of what gets stored in /var/run/, versus what gets stored in /var/cache/ ??
[18:03] <sleipnir> bekks, it reutnrs an error: cannot stat Folder/*.txt' no such file or directory
[18:03] <bekks> smart_developer: /var/run/ is the directory conataining run files, /var/cache contains caches.
[18:03] <bekks> sleipnir: So there are no "*.txt" files in that folder.
[18:03] <michele_> where is the task manager xD
[18:04] <sleipnir> bekks, there is in subfolders
[18:04] <bekks> sleipnir: But not in "Folder/"
[18:04] <sleipnir> bekks, that is correct
[18:05] <squinty> bekks:  look for System Monitor
[18:05] <bekks> squinty: Why? :)
[18:06] <smart_developer> bekks : Then do you know what is the difference between the nature of "run files", and then nature of "caches" ?
[18:06] <bekks> smart_developer: Yes.
[18:06] <squinty> bekks:  sorry wrong nick  :P
[18:06] <squinty> michele_:  look for System Monitor
[18:06] <michele_> thanks :D
[18:06] <smart_developer> bekks : Would you mind summarizing the differences ?
[18:06] <reisio> sleipnir: do you have the time/space to copy it all and simply remove what you don't want? That is easier, as I said
[18:07]  * squinty needs more coffee
[18:07] <bekks> smart_developer: /var/run/ contains information about which processes are currently running on your system. /var/cache/ contains stuff applications want to cache.
[18:07] <sleipnir> reiso it is a time issue, network transfer. it is slow to copy all
[18:07] <sleipnir> folder contains large ahrcives
[18:08] <reisio> sleipnir: k
[18:08] <bekks> sleipnir: find Folder/ -type f -name "*.txt" -exec cp ...
[18:08] <Guest13389> hi, is it possible to bridge one wifi connection with wpa2 encryption (i have the key) to create a new ap that is open? reason: i use a shared site connection but i need to fix a tablet that cant connect. im using a toughbook cf19 and taking internet from internal wifi card (intel) and want to use the pcmcia atheros wifi as the ap. the tablet is an old xplorer and both running xubuntu
[18:08] <reisio> sleipnir: what network protocol?
[18:08] <sleipnir> reiso samba
[18:09] <sleipnir> bekks, let me try that
[18:10] <reisio> that won't preserve the dirs, either
[18:10] <sleipnir> ha, it works :D
[18:11] <reisio> sleipnir: rsync -apv --include '*/' --include '*.foo' --exclude '*' bar baz -n (run without -n for real)
[18:11] <nemo> apparently the problem is that the ubuntu 0.1 package doesn't actually work with system ffmpeg
[18:11] <nemo> so that needs removing
[18:12] <reisio> oh you didn't care about the dirs? :p
[18:12] <reisio> nemo: I've yet to find a use for gstreamer :)
[18:14] <nemo> reisio: well, my SO's transcription software uses, that's the main issue
[18:14] <sleipnir> reisio, I like the rsync aproach, thanks
[18:15] <reisio> nemo: which software?
[18:16] <txdv_> came here to rant about the slow installation process of ubuntu
[18:16] <txdv_> :D
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> txdv  that is not normal, better tell us what's wrong
[18:19] <Guest13389>  hi, is it possible to bridge one wifi connection with wpa2 encryption (i have the key) to create a new ap that is open? reason: i use a shared site connection but i need to fix a tablet that cant connect. im using a toughbook cf19 and taking internet from internal wifi card (intel) and want to use the pcmcia atheros wifi as the ap. the tablet is an old xplorer and both running xubuntu
[18:20] <nemo> reisio: Transcribe! by Seventh String
[18:20] <nemo> reisio: for that type of app is really top-notch
[18:20] <nemo> reisio: reasonable price and he actually supports linu
[18:20] <ChaseTrains> how's it hanging nemo
[18:20] <nemo> *x
[18:20] <nemo> ChaseTrains: uh. hi?
[18:20] <nemo> we met?
[18:21] <ChaseTrains> nemo: yeah.. like.. daily in this channel dude.
[18:21] <ChaseTrains> for like.. 3 months now
[18:21] <nemo> O_o
[18:21] <nemo> I hardly ever come by here
[18:22] <ChaseTrains> you've highlighted me exactly 42 times this week according to my client.
[18:22] <bazhang> !ot | ChaseTrains
[18:22] <ChaseTrains> nemo omg
[18:24] <ChaseTrains> ok got it bazhang
[18:24] <ChaseTrains> thanks
[18:25] <michele__> hi! there is a channel for italian support?
[18:25] <SchrodingersScat> !it | michele__
[18:25] <bazhang> #ubuntu-it
[18:25] <SchrodingersScat> if that is speaking to you in italian, then yes
[18:25] <michele__> thanks a lot
[18:26] <michele__> hahahah
[18:26] <michele__> no i'm not good
[18:26] <michele__> to speak in english
[18:26] <michele__> but i try however
[18:29] <MagicSpud> I need help upgrading ubuntu, here my problem: http://www.pasteall.org/54113
[18:31] <michele__> sorry in the italian channel there aren't people
[18:31] <michele__> can you help me?
[18:32] <facepalm> What's the problem michele_?
[18:33] <michele__> i want to make a "scrivania button" to return in the "scrivania" (DESKTOP) too fast without close or minimize the windows opened
[18:33] <MagicSpud> I need help upgrading ubuntu: http://www.pasteall.org/54114
[18:34] <facepalm> michele_ take a look at this... I think this may be your answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126540/how-to-add-a-show-desktop-icon-to-the-launcher
[18:35] <MagicSpud> would substituting the sources.list.upgrade file fix it?
[18:35] <MagicSpud> I mean using the sources.list.upgrade file instead of the one I am using right now....
[18:37] <michele__> thanks a lot
[18:37] <facepalm> You're welcome.
[18:39] <michele__> lol there isn't my unity in the software center
[18:40] <facepalm> What version of Ubuntu are you using michele_?
[18:40] <facepalm> Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu?
[18:40] <vArgas> hi there ?    what distro linux can u recomend for my pc it has 3gb ram 250gb hdd 8400gs gfx card and a dual core prosesor
[18:41] <michele__> 14.04
[18:41] <facepalm> vArgas, any of the Ubuntu flavors would work fine for that.
[18:41] <michele__> unutnu
[18:41] <MagicSpud> vArgas i am running windows Xp 64 bits with ubuntu 14.04 dual boot on a similar machine
[18:41] <vArgas> i have something called ubuntu 14
[18:41] <MagicSpud> vArgas flawless
[18:42] <facepalm> vArgas Xubuntu would probably run well, Lubuntu also.
[18:42] <vArgas> cool magicspud
[18:42] <ImActuallyACat> hey guys, i'm having a problem with starting up ubuntu, i was wondering if i could get some help.
[18:42] <facepalm> michele_ are you using Unity?
[18:43] <Moony22> empty
[18:43] <MagicSpud> vArgas amd athlon II dual core with 8Gb ram...but It also worked fine with 2Gb
[18:44] <vArgas> thank :D
[18:44] <Moony22> np
[18:44] <MagicSpud> vArgas I just added more RAM to play videogames
[18:44] <vArgas> lol can u play games on linux?
[18:44] <vArgas> i want minecraft but the pirated version
[18:44] <MagicSpud> I bought it
[18:44] <MagicSpud> and works fine standalone
[18:44] <vArgas> i only haveit on ps3
[18:45] <vArgas> tho
[18:45] <MagicSpud> but if you want to play on a local server you would probably need more CPU
[18:45] <vArgas> <MagicSpud     ok
[18:45] <facepalm> michele_, System Settings -> Appearance, select Behavior tab and tick And show desktop icon to the launcher.
[18:46] <ImActuallyACat> when i try to start up ubuntu, i get "ALERT! /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[18:46] <vArgas> MagicSpud   its funny but i really like o.s that are very simple as dsl  xD i find using the terminal being cool
[18:46] <vArgas> lol
[18:46] <Timoty>  what version of Ubuntu are you using ?
[18:47] <ImActuallyACat> me? 14.04
[18:47] <facepalm> vArgas, no piracy talk please.
[18:47] <Timoty>  okay. Are you using a 64bits version?
[18:47] <vArgas> MagicSpud but i cant findto install any apt-get flash on it
[18:47] <vArgas> ups
[18:47] <vArgas> soory
[18:48] <ImActuallyACat> and i'll i'm able to do is use initramfs commands.
[18:48] <ImActuallyACat> is there a way to at least be able to reach my old files using a live USB, then reformat and install it again?
[18:49] <vArgas> last question: what browser do u reccomend firefox or google chrome?
[18:49] <vArgas> just to know tho
[18:50] <vinit-ivar> personal taste
[18:50] <vinit-ivar> use the one whose plugins you prefer
[18:50] <vinit-ivar> otherwise, i'd stick to firefox for now, it's easier on resources
[18:52] <ImActuallyACat> any ideas? i'm really stuck here.
[18:52] <facepalm> ImActuallyACat I'm pretty sure using a Live USB you can access your drive just fine if you need to reinstall.
[18:53] <ImActuallyACat> i can't seem to find my files and documents through it.
[18:53] <dp_> is there a version of ubuntu that has dovecot 2.2.13?
[18:53] <facepalm> ImActuallyACat did you encrypt your /home?
[18:53] <ImActuallyACat> i'm not sure.
[18:53] <ImActuallyACat> how can i check if i have?
[18:55] <facepalm> ImActuallyACat: http://askubuntu.com/questions/233684/luks-initramfs-boot-problem-dev-mapper-ubuntu-root-does-not-exist-how-can-i
[18:57] <ImActuallyACat> i'm tried that, but it doesn't work. it says "no volume groups found".
[18:59] <shibboleth> ImActuallyACat: is the VG/volume group on an ecrypted pertition?
[18:59] <ImActuallyACat> how can i check?
[18:59] <shibboleth> ImActuallyACat: furst unlock you luks partition, then vgscan -a/vgchange -ay
[19:06] <Mahe> hi
[19:06] <dharc> hi guys, is unity portable to freebsd?
[19:06] <fl8sh123> tried to install wordpress on ubuntu and removed it due to error.  Now my local ip just brings up a white blank page. It does not show my index.html. anyone know why
[19:06] <Mahe> any indian girls?
[19:06] <bazhang> dharc, asked in #freebsd yet?
[19:06] <shibboleth> dharc: why unity
[19:06] <bazhang> !ot | Mahe
[19:08] <dharc> bazhang: no, there is no reason to ask there
[19:08] <dharc> shibboleth: because unity uses qt and qt is more portable
[19:09] <shibboleth> dharc: sure, but unity should be avoided by any good purist
[19:11] <camtron> Every time my laptop boots, the splash screen gets interrupted with this message:
[19:11] <camtron> [   16.459359] [drm:i915_stolen_to_physical] *ERROR* conflict detected with stolen region: [0x3f800000 - 0x3ffc0000]
[19:11] <camtron> What does that mean?
[19:12] <dharc> what do you mean, shibboleth?
[19:13] <Timoty>  shibboleth : what do you mean?
[19:13] <shibboleth> dharc: unity has sponsored seached, send userdata back to canonical
[19:13] <michele_> hi
[19:14] <dharc> that is a optional feature
[19:14] <shibboleth> there are a whole list of features that are leaky as hell
[19:14] <michele_> i want a good translator... in the software center what i download?
[19:14] <shibboleth> dharc: you will have to know about them all and know how to deactivate them all
[19:14] <michele_> because i try one of this but don't function correctly
[19:14] <camtron> I like Unity's interface, but it's almost as slow as KDE.
[19:14] <dharc> shibboleth: ok
[19:19] <camtron> I didn't get that error when I first installed Ubuntu 12.04, so it must be some update.
[19:19] <dreamon> good evening. what could be reason why dmeg -T shows outdated infos -> [Do Sep 18 03:54:31 2014] wlan6: associated (last line)
[19:20] <Gatis> Hi, tell me please leightweight text editor.
[19:20] <SchrodingersScat> Gatis: nano
[19:20] <bazhang> nano
[19:20] <Gatis> GUI one
[19:20] <SchrodingersScat> Gatis: sed
[19:20] <michele_> language translator show me this error Language detection not available
[19:21] <SchrodingersScat> Gatis: gedit, leafpad, mousepad, etc.
[19:21] <camtron> notepad.
[19:21]  * camtron runs.
[19:21] <Gatis> what about notepad++ is it fast?
[19:21] <camtron> Gatis: yes.
[19:22] <camtron> It's Windows-only, but it runs flawlessly on Wine.
[19:22] <Gatis> aah no
[19:22] <Gatis> I need linux supported
[19:22]  * roachmmflhyr is now away - Reason : Auto-Away (Away from Keyboard for 30 minutes)
[19:23] <SchrodingersScat> !away | roachmmflhyr
[19:24] <camtron> Gatis: I've used notepad++ a lot on Linux without problems, but what are you planning to use it for? programming? jotting notes?
[19:24] <Gatis> Just in case i need it
[19:25] <Gatis> ill go for Leafpad
[19:26] <Gatis> Which is more leightweight Gedit or Leafpad?
[19:26] <camtron> Leafpad.
[19:27] <camtron> Both are pretty lightweight, though.
[19:29] <ghty> Hi. How can I get quicktime running under google chrome website? I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and didn't work. Under Firefox everything is ok...
[19:30] <ghty> quicktime plugin under google chrome webbrowser ;)
[19:32] <_Trullo> how do I add shortcuts on the desktop in 14.04?
[19:34] <michele_> pls a  good translator ?
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> _Trullo  http://askubuntu.com/questions/450266/an-easy-way-to-create-a-desktop-shortcut
[19:35] <camtron> ghty: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/quicktime-plugin/mgeglimppeibnnkphlopcndopgcnngce
[19:40] <anonymous_> hi
[19:46] <usr13> _Trullo: Right click the file you want a link to in your file manager. Select "Create link" from the context menu. Move that link wherever you want it. (Desktop)
[19:47] <usr13> ooops, didn't see MonkeyDust's answer.
[19:47] <Gatis> Hi i installed Lubuntu minimal.. How to generate Home folders(Downloads, Picture, etc)?
[19:48] <camtron> _Trullo: Or you can just hold shift while dragging and dropping.
[19:48] <eeee> Gatis: useradd -m <username>
[19:48] <_Trullo> usr13, I wanna add drives to the desktop
[19:48] <Gatis> eeee: i have added user
[19:49] <leshik> нарол помоги разобратся C Apache2
[19:49] <eeee> Gatis: how did you add?
[19:49] <leshik> *Народ
[19:49] <Gatis> During installation i added user
[19:49] <smart_developer> What's the significance of "owner" and "group", in regards to file/directory chown ?
[19:50] <smart_developer> The words "owner" and "group" don't seem to be very descriptive in regards to what they can do, and what their roles are ...
[19:50] <smart_developer> I mean, "owner", seems somewhat more clear, but what exactly is "group" ?
[19:50] <amr> anyone familiar with how to adjust fanspeeds? speedfan didnt detect any fans
[19:50] <amr> hp spectre 13
[19:50] <smart_developer> But then again, my assumptions about what "owner" means might be wrong as well.
[19:50] <smart_developer> in regards to chown/permissions
[19:51] <Bashing-om> Gatis: " How to generate Home folders(Downloads, Picture, etc)?" you mist install a Desktop Environment - say like xfce4 or some such.
[19:51] <Bashing-om> mist/must*
[19:51] <Gatis> Bashing-om: i have Lubuntu
[19:52] <eeee> Gatis: if you run useradd -m <newuser>
[19:52] <eeee> Gatis: do you get a new user with the directories?
[19:52] <bekks> eeee: useradd never creates those directories.
[19:52] <Gatis> eeee: Im logged in a user
[19:53] <eeee> bekks: what does then?
[19:53] <bekks> eeee: The desktop environment upon first login.
[19:53] <eeee> bekks: i see
[19:54] <Bashing-om> Gatis: Did you do "apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" ??
[19:54] <Gatis> no
[19:54] <Gatis> mini.iso -> Lubuntu minimal installation
[19:54] <Bashing-om> Gatis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall .
[19:55] <Gatis> Bashing-om: it's nothing there about home directories
[19:55] <michele_> there isn't a translator????
[19:56] <Bashing-om> Gatis: "home directories" are part of the "desktop Environment" as installed by " apt-get install lubuntu-desktop ".
[19:57] <Gatis> Bashing-om: no i believe there is a way to generate home directories
[19:57] <TJ-> Gatis: The directories are created by "xdg-user-dirs-update" which is usually called as one of the /etc/X11/Xsession.d/  session scripts ("60xdg-user-dirs-update")
[19:57] <Bashing-om> Gatis: Above my skill set then.
[19:58] <TJ-> Gatis: package is "xdg-user-dirs"
[19:58] <Gatis> TJ-: ah alright..
[19:59] <Gatis> Tj- thank you. I see i don't have this package.
[20:00] <eeee> !find xdg-user-dirs-update
[20:00] <Gatis> !xdg-user-dirs
[20:00] <Gatis> !info xdg-user-dirs
[20:02] <usr13> _Trullo: Same process, (files directories same same)
[20:03] <Gatis> Can you tell me please leightweight network manager
[20:04] <bazhang> Gatis, dhclient
[20:05] <usr13> Gatis: I don't think any of them are very heavy, but I prefer wicd, (don't know that it's any lighter but...)
[20:05] <Gatis> !dhclient
[20:05] <nmz787> so for changing tabs in gnome-terminal I have mapped ctrl-q and ctrl-shift-q, but I want to try and use the Ubuntu System Settings keyboard shortcuts to bind ctrl-tab and ctrl-shift-tab, and I think I need to use something like xvkbd to send the ctrl-q or ctrl-shift-q
[20:05] <Gatis> Network Manager Gnome is pretty heavy
[20:05] <nmz787> but I'm not sure what arguments to use for xvkbd
[20:05] <usr13> Gatis: It is a command, not a package.
[20:05] <Gatis> I have 1GB ram laptop
[20:06] <usr13> !dhcp | Gatis
[20:06] <JazZItSsK> not registered
[20:06] <Gatis> usr13 it is a package
[20:06] <Gatis> !info network-manager-gnome
[20:06] <JazZItSsK> guys I know what it is
[20:07] <Gatis> usr13 are you talking about dhcp or gnome network manager/
[20:07] <JazZItSsK> cloud enablement by microsoft
[20:07] <JazZItSsK> not very impressed
[20:07] <Gatis> Im currently using dhcp :)
[20:07] <usr13> Gatis: Package dhclient does not exist in trusty
[20:08] <Gatis> I thought it was GUI network manager
[20:09] <vargas> HELP!!!  i cannot update the sistem
[20:09] <JazZItSsK> so hip hip hurray one day we all be united and controlled
[20:10] <usr13> !info network-manager  | Gatis
[20:10] <JazZItSsK> should be done in a less offensive way
[20:10] <Gatis> usr13:  is it Gnome one?
[20:11] <vargas> can someone help me i cannot update my sistem i wont let me it says check ur internet connection but my internet works fine
[20:11] <nmz787> ok so I was able to use xvkbd -text "\Cq" bound to Ctrl-Tab in the System Settings->Keyboard panel...but... the shorcut doesn't get fired if you continue holding ctrl and hit tab multiple times
[20:12] <nmz787> you have to lift up on ctrl and then hit ctrl-tab again
[20:12] <newnick> im installing compton, or trying to i have pulled it down but in the install guides it has shortened directorys
[20:12] <newnick> where is ~/.config/
[20:12] <newnick> or /etc/
[20:13] <JazZItSsK> so this a WW project to reconcile and clean up messy accesses right ?
[20:13] <eeeeee> newnick: "/" is the root directory, like C:
[20:13] <usr13> vargas: host av.com  #Do you get response?
[20:13] <vargas> usr13 not
[20:13] <usr13> vargas: Not what?
[20:13] <newnick> so to get to /etc/ it should be on the root
[20:13] <newnick> but i can't see it
[20:14] <newnick> i know it was there, because I have seen it though
[20:14] <usr13> vargas: (Please elaborate.)
[20:14] <eeeeee> newnick: open a terminal, and type cd /etc
[20:14] <newnick> nope my stupidity, got it
[20:14] <newnick> cheers
[20:14] <vargas> usr13: ok look i want to update but is always fails
[20:14] <usr13> vargas: pastebinit
[20:15] <vargas> usr13: ok
[20:16] <usr13> vargas: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[20:16] <newnick> do I just create .conf's in etc?
[20:16] <vargas> usr13: idk how to do that but it says not found packeges download ect
[20:16] <vargas> ...
[20:16] <eeee> newnick: what are you trying to achieve?
[20:17] <usr13> !paste | vargas
[20:17] <newnick> "Once it’s installed, create a text file in ~/.config/ called compton.conf with the following contents:"
[20:17] <newnick> im trying to get to that stage
[20:17] <eeee> newnick: yeah, do that
[20:17] <newnick> just create compton.conf in /etc/
[20:18] <Bashing-om> vargas: Install the tool -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit <- then run usr13'a command.
[20:18] <Fohlen> anyone can give me a tipp about this issue: libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:1619 kmod_module_new_from_loaded: could not open /proc/modules: No such file or directory
[20:18] <Fohlen> Error: could not get list of modules: No such file or directory
[20:18] <eeee> newnick: yeah
[20:18] <Fohlen> it apperars on my new ubuntu server installation.
[20:19] <newnick> will do, cheers
[20:19] <Fohlen> seems somewhat problem with my kernel modules but I don't know how to resolve it.
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> Fohlen  there's also #ubuntu-server
[20:19] <eeee> newnick: i think you need to use sudo to create it
[20:19] <vargas> usr13: i cannot usepastebinit it says error some thingmissing idk
[20:19] <Fohlen> MonkeyDust: thanks.
[20:19] <usr13> Fohlen: Is this an actual PC or....?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> vargas  install pastebinit, first
[20:19] <Fohlen> usr13: it's dedicated hardware, yes.
[20:19] <vargas>  Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:19] <eeee> newnick: gksu gedit /etc/compton.conf
[20:20] <usr13> vargas: past.ubuntu.com
[20:20] <vargas> thats what it says
[20:20] <newnick> gksu gedit??
[20:20] <newnick> just whack that in terminal
[20:20] <eeee> newnick: yeah, that will open gedit with root privileges
[20:20] <Bashing-om> vargas: Please follow instructions, we need to see that output and in context. ->  sudo apt-get update | pastebinit <- .
[20:21] <Jeffrey_f> My daughter may have done something with her gnome session.   Her bottom bar is missing.
[20:21] <usr13> Fohlen: cat /etc/issue
[20:22] <vargas> i know but look in terminal this pups up  Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[20:22] <Fohlen> usr13: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[20:23] <usr13> Fohlen: Show us the last 5 or 6 lines of  ls -tr /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[20:23] <usr13> vargas: Yes
[20:23] <usr13> vargas: sudo apt-get install -f
[20:24] <usr13> !paste | Fohlen
[20:24] <Fohlen> usr13: http://sprunge.us/jSJH
[20:24] <vargas> usr13     ok what next
[20:24] <Fohlen> yes, sorry.
[20:25] <usr13> Fohlen: sudo apt-get install -f
[20:25] <usr13> vargas: sudo apt-get update
[20:26] <vargas> usr13 same thing same error about it wont download some files*
[20:26] <usr13> vargas: paste it at paste.ubuntu.com
[20:27] <usr13> vargas: About 10 or 20 lines  Okay?
[20:27] <usr13> vargas: And send us the URL
[20:28] <vargas> usr13 i know but it very hard to unerstand u seeim new to this xD
[20:28] <vargas> i have no clue what to do
[20:28] <vargas> :S
[20:28] <usr13> vargas: Does it say anything about autoremove?
[20:28] <vargas> NO
[20:28] <usr13> vargas: Do you know how to copy and paste?
[20:29] <vargas> usr13   yes
[20:30] <Fohlen> usr13: says everything is alright.
[20:30] <usr13> vargas: Highlight the last 10 or 20 lines of the terminal's output, take firefox to paste.ubuntu.com and hit the middle mouse button in the Content area
[20:30] <vargas> usr13 ok give me minute please
[20:30] <mattd_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi
[20:30] <usr13> vargas: ... click on Paste!
[20:30] <usr13> vargas: .... send us URL
[20:31] <Gatis> How's Smuxi IRC client?
[20:31] <vargas> usr13 i change the update thing to main server sow its doing something i have to wait
[20:31] <usr13> vargas: Okey Dokey
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  it can handle the most complex ubuntu questions
[20:32] <Elimin8er> I have been running ubuntu for a long time on a what I call and older system. its a Dell Inspiron-3521 AKA 15, and just today I rebooted and when it started back up, I got This error: " ubuntu has been blocked by the current security policy ", When I findly disabled secure boot it worked again.. and yes Im in EFI modes.. anyhow.. its never done this before.. any ideas ??? I have asked in the other channels with no reply avail ..
[20:33] <Gatis> Smuxi has a lot of dependencies almost 60 MB
[20:33] <Riddleywalker> Hi all
[20:33] <vargas> usr13   hey dude i think i fixed it
[20:33] <vargas> usr13 i change the updater thing to MAIN SERVER and it works now :D
[20:34] <TJ-> Elimin8er: That sounds as if the "grub-efi-amd64" package was updated but that "grub-efi-amd64-signed" wasn't
[20:34] <usr13> vargas: Very good.
[20:34] <vargas> usr13 there is no error in ternimal now when i use the apt-get update :D
[20:34] <Elimin8er> TJ-, hmm.. so I just wait for an update or what can I do? Im still kinda new to this.
[20:35] <Elimin8er> I been using a computer since 1980 started with C64 then PC ..but the linux thing, im still learning. :)
[20:35] <vargas> usr13  thanks anyway its cool to have community thats there to help :D Bye
[20:36] <Riddleywalker> This is a test
[20:36] <Gatis> Anyone suggest Smuxi IRC client?
[20:37] <guntbert> !test | Riddleywalker
[20:37] <Riddleywalker> lol thank you
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  try a few clients and choose the one you like most
[20:37] <Riddleywalker> haven't been on IRC in like 10 years
[20:37] <TJ-> Elimin8er: For now if Secure Boot is disabled you should be OK. "grub-efi-amd64-signed" contains a GRUB boot-manager prebuilt and signed using Canonical's EFI key; "grub-efi-amd64" generates an unsigned boot-manager ("/boot/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi") on-the-fly
[20:37] <usr13> Gatis: I suggest irssi
[20:37] <Riddleywalker> last client i used was bitchX
[20:37] <Gatis> usr13 why
[20:38] <Elimin8er> TJ-, , thank for your support..
[20:38] <Elimin8er> TJ-, , This is the only channel I seemed to have received help with anything on.
[20:38] <Gatis> oh Smuxi has a lot of dependencies...
[20:39] <usr13> Gatis: http://irssi.org/documentation
[20:39] <Elimin8er> when it comes to irc clients, I use hexchat.. guess I like the gui's
[20:39] <TJ-> Elimin8er: Some updates may cause "grub-efi-amd64" to be reconfigured which causes it to generate a new "grubx64.efi" which may replace the existing signed version entry in the System's boot menu
[20:39] <Gatis> Elimin8er: yes i know hexchat i like it
[20:39] <Gatis> usr13: well not sure about cli irc client
[20:40] <usr13> Gatis: I am
[20:40] <Elimin8er> I use hexchat behind ZNC..
[20:40] <gatis_> hi
[20:40] <gatis_> Smuxiii!
[20:40] <Elimin8er> TJ-, Might be a chance there is a backup someplace there maybe?
[20:41] <Elimin8er> I do keep system backups also.. but I just wanted to know what happend.
[20:41] <Elimin8er> its the first time that happen
[20:41] <Gatis> Nop don't like Smuxi
[20:42] <TJ-> Elimin8er: The signed file is installed at "/usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi-signed/grubx64.efi.signed" - it is copied and renamed from there when "grub-install" runs
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  if you use irssi in combination with screen, you can close the terminal and even logout, without interrupting the irc session
[20:43] <Elimin8er> TJ-,  I run 2 systems with ubuntu one a dell and the other a HP. and they both have ubuntu 14.10. and only my dell did that crazy thing.
[20:43] <Gatis> MonkeyDust: oh alright
[20:43] <Gatis> What's screen?
[20:43] <TJ-> Elimin8er: 14.10?
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> !screen | Gatis
[20:43] <Elimin8er> yea 14.10 utopic
[20:43] <Elimin8er> gnome also
[20:43] <TJ-> Elimin8er: support for the development version of Ubuntu is in channel #ubuntu+1, but you should expect breakage from time to time
[20:44] <docmur> I just preformed a distupgrade to 14.04 and after the upgrade was done my mindlna install / configure was corrupt.  Now when I try to start the service I get:  parsing error file /etc/minidlna.conf line 54 : listening_ip=<IP_ADDRESS>, without binding to an address, non of the devices on the network can see files in the media share.  Has anyone else seen this.  Everything worked before the upgrade
[20:44] <Gatis> MonkeyDust: is it like tty?
[20:44] <Elimin8er> TJ-,  Thank you.. I will join that channel also.
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  yes
[20:44] <eeee> docmur: you dist-upgraded to 14.04 ? I hope you mean do-release-upgrade ?
[20:45] <usr13> !nvidia | docmur
[20:45] <Elimin8er> TJ-,  I have just always been a guy that likes to test the latest of everything.. heck I even got a copy of windows 9 comming at the end of the month.
[20:45] <Gatis> MonkeyDust: why can't just use tty? :)
[20:45] <docmur> yes sorry, i thought do-release upgrade just ran a dist-upgrade
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  for the reasons I just said
[20:46] <usr13> docmur: You may need to re-install the nvidia modules
[20:46] <eeee> Gatis: you can logout, and the session continues, you log back in, and then "attach" back to it
[20:46] <Elimin8er> anyhow I got 5 systems
[20:46] <usr13> docmur: Or just reconfigure
[20:46] <docmur> what? ro get minidlna working I have to reinstall a graphics card driver?
[20:47] <usr13> docmur: Oh, I missread
[20:47] <Gatis> I don't log  out.. Either I suspend latpop or shutdown it.
[20:47] <usr13> !info minidlna | docmur
[20:48] <TJ-> docmur: "minidlna" isn't in Trusty, it got dropped, but it is in trusty-backports via Utopic.see http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-backports/minidlna
[20:48] <eeee> Gatis: it's useful over ssh
[20:48] <Gatis> eeee why do you use ssh?
[20:48] <Moony22> GoLinuxMint: lol
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> Gatis  and with screen -x you can connect to a running TTY session
[20:49] <Gatis> ill test it somedayh
[20:50] <SchrodingersScat> Gatis: so I can access it from almost anything that understands internet speak
[20:50] <Gatis> SchrodingersScat: you mean acces your pc from other pc?
[20:50] <SchrodingersScat> Gatis: yes can ssh in to the irc program that stays running.
[20:50] <Gatis> Not useful for me..
[20:51] <eeee> Gatis: let's say you have a long running process on a specific shell providing server, you run it in screen, you log out, log back in after a while and attach to it
[20:51] <Gatis> ok
[20:51] <TrainChase> guys, im banned everywhere
[20:51] <TrainChase> pls
[20:51] <TrainChase> i did drugs
[20:51] <Gatis> But i don't have problem quiting IRC>
[20:51] <TrainChase> and they wont let me in to defocus
[20:51] <TrainChase> im barely watching thsi
[20:52] <Gatis> TrainChase: you're not only one
[20:52] <TrainChase> i wont remember and i dont nkow if its serioius
[20:52] <k1l_> TrainChase: please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. thanks
[20:52] <Gatis> so don't despair
[20:52] <TrainChase> k1l_: im not clear
[20:52] <Gatis> i turn off my laptop every day
[20:52] <TrainChase> why wont you understand
[20:52] <k1l_> !ot | TrainChase
[20:52] <TrainChase> i cant think shit im confused and you're fucking my brain
[20:53] <TrainChase> im not trying to do anything wrong
[20:53] <Riddleywalker> anyone in here now CW?
[20:53] <Riddleywalker> *know
[20:53] <usr13> Riddleywalker: yes
[20:53] <Riddleywalker> usr13, awesome - what speed?
[20:53] <usr13> 20wpm
[20:54] <ahklerner> what is CW
[20:54] <usr13> Riddleywalker: This is #ubuntu
[20:54] <Riddleywalker> usr13, very nice. I just started myself. 5wpm at the moment
[20:54] <usr13> continious wave
[20:54] <Riddleywalker> usr13, yeah i know but i thought i'd ask anyhow
[20:54] <Riddleywalker> usr13, so long...
[20:54] <usr13> Riddleywalker: Lots of fun! ....
[20:54] <usr13> Riddleywalker: Many years
[20:55] <s5fs> usr13: okay but what is continuous wave?
[20:55] <usr13> s5fs: It's for morse code
[20:55] <Riddleywalker> lol what have i started!
[20:55] <Riddleywalker> take care usr13
[20:55] <s5fs> usr13: ah, okay. couple options came up when i searched, just confirming.
[20:55] <usr13> Riddleywalker: U 2   73
[20:55] <s5fs> Riddleywalker: bah its slow in here anyways, a little ot is okay
[20:55] <Riddleywalker> oh! before i leave, any good servers/channels to check out for ham stuff?
[20:55] <ahklerner> yes google does not tell me what continuous wave is cept for a boating site
[20:55] <ahklerner> oh
[20:55] <ahklerner> morse code
[20:56] <usr13> Riddleywalker: There are several packages for cw
[20:56] <Riddleywalker> usr13, i guess i could google this
[20:56] <usr13> Riddleywalker: ebook2cw is one
[20:57] <Riddleywalker> usr13, oh no, i mean irc channels to chat about ham stuff
[20:57] <Riddleywalker> usr13, i've got Gordon West's study discs
[20:58] <plum> hi
[20:58] <ahklerner> hi
[20:58] <halina> I think it's broken still
[20:58] <Riddleywalker> usr13, thank you for the recommendation. 73
[20:58] <plum> i used dd to write an image file to an sd card, and now i can't see that sd card even from gparted
[20:59] <plum> i don't mind data loss, but i just want to be able to use the card again-- what can i do?
[20:59] <usr13> plum: You may need to unplug and plub it back in again, but make sure dd is finished
[20:59] <s5fs> plum: sdcards die like crazy too
[20:59] <usr13> *plug* not plub
[20:59] <s5fs> i've killed dozens in the last two years
[21:00] <usr13> plum: Oh, it is an sdcard?
[21:00] <plum> i've rebooted and tried plugging it back in, but it's not showing up still
[21:00] <plum> yeah, sd card-- micro sd card to be precise
[21:00] <plum> it's in an sd card adapter in a laptop though
[21:00] <usr13> plum: Better off to use a regular thumb drive
[21:00] <eeee> plum: try sudo parted -l
[21:01] <plum> parted -l only shows my hard drive
[21:01] <plum> not the sd card :/
[21:01] <plum> i was trying to write an OS to the sd card for a raspberry pi
[21:01] <ash123> hello all
[21:02] <s5fs> plum: try tailing /var/log/syslog when you stick the sdcard in, see if any errors show up
[21:02] <ash123> i had a problem earlier with my USB adapter, but the only solution seems to be to use a different USB adapter that has drivers which work properly
[21:02] <plum> Cerberus kernel: [  167.160059] mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card
[21:02] <ash123> i am wondering, as i am currently learning C at the moment, could i get to a point where i could one day write my own drivers?
[21:03] <plum> s5fs: that's what it says in tailing /var/log/syslog
[21:03] <ash123> and im learning it on Ubuntu (linux is supposed to be a better environment for learning C)
[21:03] <plum> that error shows up a few times, the error -110 for mmc0
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[21:04] <k1l_> ash123: some day you will be able if you keep learning. but it still will be easier to buy a working device.
[21:04] <ash123> it just so happens i have 2 different usb adapters
[21:04] <ash123> one works partially, the other works fully
[21:05] <ash123> the drivers for the 'partially' working one are not good enough for linux
[21:05] <ash123> so im using the old one that works fully
[21:05] <k1l_> ash123: in short: if the manufacturer is helpfull and ships drivers: the device works
[21:05] <ash123> i spent ages trying to fix it, and was lucky enough that my old USB adapter works
[21:06] <Dillyo> don't mean to interupt.  Can anyone point me in the right direction towards a community on irc focused on html/html5?
[21:06] <ash123> they have made linux drivers for it, but the thing kept disconnecting constantly
[21:06] <k1l_> Dillyo: try alis
[21:06] <ash123> this particular model is version 4 which uses realtek drivers, the previous versions used atheros which people have claimed work properly from reviews
[21:06] <k1l_> !alis | Dillyo
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> Dillyo  type /j #html5
[21:07] <Dillyo> nice thank you
[21:07] <Dillyo> nice thank you
[21:07] <Dillyo> !
[21:08] <plum> what can i do for the mmc0 error -110 whilst initialising sd card?
[21:08] <ash123> i love this OS
[21:09] <ash123> i tried redhat fedora many years ago and gave up on linux
[21:09] <ash123> but this time i am sticking to it
[21:09] <alexis_> I'm new
[21:09] <ash123> with Ubuntu
[21:09] <ash123> cus it is supposed to be easy
[21:09] <ash123> easier*
[21:10] <s5fs> plum: i think it's dead yo
[21:10] <plum> me too :/ dang. that sucks, it's a 32gb one
[21:11] <ImActuallyACat> hi guys, after many attempts, i've gotten no where in fixing my boot. i recently tried using boot-repair-disk, but it hasn't helped. i'm afraid i'm rather stuck in a hole with this. is there ANY way to extract my files and documents from the damaged Ubuntu drive?
[21:12] <ImActuallyACat> any help would be greatly appreciated.
[21:12] <ash123> ImActuallyACat: are you able to access those files from an OS on a USB drive?
[21:12] <ash123> or another OS on the same/different HDD?
[21:12] <ImActuallyACat> no i'm not.
[21:13] <ash123> i wouldnt know then, sounds pretty bad
[21:13] <s5fs> plum: add it to the 'dead' pile. maybe there is some magic i'm unaware of, but i just keep tossing them into a pile and buying new ones.
[21:13] <ash123> speaking of which, does anybody know a free alternative to DBAN that is getting regular updates? i dont like how darik sold out to Blancco
[21:14] <plum> sounds like that's what i'll have to do, unfortunately
[21:14] <ImActuallyACat> i've got xubuntu on a live usb, and i have no idea if it's able to recognize the ubuntu install on the hard drive.
[21:14] <ImActuallyACat> i'm okay with reformating, i just want to be able to obtain some of my older files.
[21:15] <orb> What caused the problem?
[21:16] <ImActuallyACat> i honestly have no idea. i started up my computer after shutting it down, and then it told me i was missing the ubuntu root, and all i could do was use initramfs commands, and it's been going downhill ever since.
[21:17] <yahyaeri> what
[21:17] <ImActuallyACat> it's on a laptop, by the way. is it possible to remove that laptop's hard drive, put in in my desktop and then maybe extract those files from windows?
[21:17] <orb> Should I assume you know the device name and tried to mount it?
[21:18] <orb> It is possible to do and windows, but probably better to do it in Linux perhaps booting from a USB stick.
[21:18] <orb> sorry, I'm doing voice to text.
[21:18] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: easier to boot a live session on the laptop and backup over the network
[21:18] <ImActuallyACat> okay, how would i do that?
[21:20] <orb> ImActuallyACat: are you familiar with mount?
[21:20] <ImActuallyACat> no i'm not.
[21:20] <orb> i'm using an iPhone fryer see you at the moment. Typing all the commands would be a tad tedious.
[21:20] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: got a USB or DVD of ubuntu?
[21:21] <orb> Ick
[21:21] <ImActuallyACat> i've got a usb of xubuntu.
[21:21] <ImActuallyACat> is that okay?
[21:21] <daftykins> ok boot that
[21:21] <ImActuallyACat> okay, done so.
[21:21] <daftykins> are you in it right now?
[21:21] <ImActuallyACat> yes.
[21:21] <daftykins> open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[21:22] <daftykins> then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[21:23] <orb> daftykins: I think he just wants to mount the original hard drive and copy files from it.
[21:23] <ImActuallyACat> okay, done that.
[21:23] <daftykins> orb: yep, thus i'll find out what partitions are there
[21:23] <orb> Oh okay
[21:23] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: it should've given you a link to paste here
[21:24] <ImActuallyACat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8398989
[21:24] <daftykins> err, ok wow that's a bit odd
[21:24] <daftykins> hang on then before we make this any worse...
[21:25] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools" then "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[21:25] <daftykins> orb: not sure if you could open that paste on your phone easily but that disk looks damaged
[21:26] <ImActuallyACat> http://past.ubuntu.com/8399018
[21:26] <ash123> Would anyone recommend an alternative email provider to gmail? no advertisements, privacy, etc.
[21:26] <orb> I was noticing that.
[21:26] <ash123> or am I being paranoid? just wondering what is out there
[21:26] <daftykins> ash123: not on topic here
[21:27] <ash123> oh sorry
[21:27] <ash123> my bad
[21:27] <ImActuallyACat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399018 forgot the 'e'.
[21:27] <rob79> Hey all, how's it going? Anyone here have any experience with fixing an NTFS partition? I'm in over my head :)
[21:27] <ash123> what is the name of that bot that recommends channels?
[21:27] <ash123> might be able to find one
[21:27] <daftykins> !alis
[21:27] <Krixvar> sorry for the cross post from kubuntu, but this is more of a general question and I see a lot more people here.. after a routine apt-get upgrade yesterday my nvidia drivers are broken to the point that I don't have nvidia-xconfig even after reinstalling (and trying a xorg-edgers version).. anyone else affected by this?
[21:27] <ash123> thanks
[21:28] <rob79> Basically I resized an NTFS partition on my external HDD and now it won't mount. Gparted tells me to chkdsk /f on windows, but I don't have windows :)
[21:28] <marvin-RPi> what do you mean by fixing Rob79 ?
[21:28] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: ok well the good news is there's no physical damage showing up, but as you saw there're only partitions showing for 64GB of the 750GB drive which is very bad
[21:28] <rob79> marvin-RPi: Well, after I resized the partition it just stopped mounting. I've tried ntfsfix with no success, and since I don't have access to Windows I'm not sure what other NTFS tools might be appropriate.
[21:29] <ImActuallyACat> is there anything i can do?
[21:29] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: first off, try a "sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit" just to confirm
[21:29] <marvin-RPi> try gparted mate
[21:30] <rob79> This is exactly the error gparted gives me: http://pastebin.com/3eBf6bEZ
[21:30] <ImActuallyACat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399049
[21:31] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: ideally, i would image up this disk to another before attempting any data recovery on it - if you're really keen to get anything back
[21:31] <orb> I wonder if FDISK a showing that because he might have an EFI partition. I'm not versed in all of that.
[21:32] <ImActuallyACat> how do i go about doing that?
[21:32] <daftykins> orb: that's why i asked for parted first, fdisk would've warned it doesn't support it, but it's an msdos partition table disk
[21:32] <orb> Maybe he needs to use gdisk?
[21:32] <orb> Oh Ok
[21:32] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: well you need another HDD to copy it to :)
[21:32] <ImActuallyACat> well damn...
[21:33] <daftykins> you can try some data recovery options now but you'll likely make things worse
[21:33] <daftykins> it's very risky
[21:33] <orb> I got a run, good luck on that
[21:33] <ImActuallyACat> i'm afraid i don't have another hard drive with the room to copy it to. =/
[21:33] <ImActuallyACat> thank you orb.
[21:34] <smart_developer> When doing chown owner : group, what is the significance of "owner", and the significance of "group" ?
[21:34] <smart_developer> Basically, what do they denote ?
[21:34] <smart_developer> privilege-wise
[21:35] <k1l_> smart_developer: can you rephrase?
[21:35] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: does your desktop have >1TB of space?
[21:35] <smart_developer> k1l_ : Basically, what exactly does "group" mean in this context?
[21:35] <smart_developer> k1l_ : Why do you need to specify something other than just "owner" ?
[21:35] <daftykins> smart_developer: they're entities, a group is a collection of users
[21:35] <k1l_> owner:group     in most cases its <your_nickname>:<group_name_like_sudoers_or_sambagroup>
[21:36] <ImActuallyACat> no, it's got about 50gb.
[21:36] <smart_developer> daftykins k1l_ : I understand that "group" is a collection of users, but why would someone want to specify the "group" for a particular file/directory ?
[21:37] <smart_developer> Basically, what's the significance of it ?
[21:37] <daftykins> so more than one user can access it...
[21:37] <smart_developer> Ah, so basically "group" is just short for "access group" ?
[21:37] <daftykins> no.
[21:37] <k1l_> smart_developer: think of you got 5 users using your pc (or some network directory). so you put them into a "cool-group" and set the permissions of a folder to user:cool-group. now all that users can handle the folder and the files in it according to the mode set for the group
[21:37] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: ok, so you can either try risky commands or buy another drive first to aid in recovering this one
[21:37] <smart_developer> daftykins - Then what's a more descriptive way to describe "group" ?
[21:37] <Slart> hey, I've got an old Griffin Powermate (basically just a big volume control with a led light).. when I plug it in I see that it's recognized in dmesg output and apparently it shows up as an input device.. how can I catch events from this? anything I can use to run bash scripts or python scripts when I use it?
[21:38] <daftykins> smart_developer: the only way the word 'group' needs more of an explanation is if your mother tongue isn't English
[21:38] <ImActuallyACat> let's try the risky commands, it's the only choice i've got really.
[21:38] <smart_developer> k1l_ : What "modes" are there ?
[21:38] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: hang on let me run this by a good sir
[21:38] <ImActuallyACat> okay thank you.
[21:38] <k1l_> smart_developer: that what you set with "chmod"
[21:38] <daftykins> TJ-: heya, do you have much experience with data recovery when a user's drive has lost partitions?
[21:39] <smart_developer> k1l_ : Ah, I see.
[21:39] <k1l_> smart_developer: like 755, or 711 etc etc
[21:39] <smart_developer> Then owner is just owner ?
[21:39] <smart_developer> Does owner mean that they have pretty much any permissions that they want?
[21:39] <smart_developer> And can "owner" be a collection of users, as well ?
[21:40] <s5fs> smart_developer: http://www.perlfect.com/articles/chmod.shtml
[21:40] <smart_developer> s5fs : That's for chmod
[21:40] <s5fs> all these questions and more can be answered with a quick read
[21:40] <TJ-> daftykins: Yes :)
[21:40] <smart_developer> s5fs : We're more on chown, here.
[21:40] <k1l_> smart_developer: no. owner is the first number and group the second number of the permissions numbers
[21:40] <k1l_> !permissions | smart_developer
[21:40] <s5fs> smart_developer: you are asking basic unix file permission questions, the utility used to modify these permissions does not matter.
[21:41] <s5fs> smart_developer: you need a better conceptual understanding of WHAT you are changing and WHY, not HOW
[21:41] <daftykins> TJ-: care to take a look at this parted output from ImActuallyACat ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8398989/ i was about to maybe advise testdisk being run. user has no disk space for a backup image to be made first
[21:41] <s5fs> chmod/chgrp/chown all that stuff is the HOW
[21:42] <smart_developer> k1l_ s5fs : Thanks.
[21:42] <smart_developer> Btw, s5fs what does your username stand for? something fs ?
[21:42] <smart_developer> filesystem ?
[21:43] <daftykins> keep it on topic, smart_developer
[21:43] <s5fs> smart_developer: system five filesystem
[21:43] <s5fs> so like, i may not be the wizards beard with unix file perms but i know enough ;)
[21:44] <TJ-> daftykins: ImActuallyACat OK, got that. I'll just run up a chat history so I can catch up. Have you checked the Live ISO's "/var/log/kern.log" for any indication of disk I/O errors from the Hitachi drive?
[21:44] <smart_developer> Quick question - so is "root" always going to be (either explicitly or just implicitly) considered both "owner" and a member of the "group" for every file/directory ?
[21:45] <daftykins> TJ-: no sir, i too jumped in late
[21:45] <smart_developer> Even when "owner" and "group" don't explicitly say so ?
[21:45] <smart_developer> Because "root" can do everything, right ?
[21:45] <ImActuallyACat> i'm not sure what i'd be looking for.
[21:45] <k1l_> smart_developer: nope
[21:45] <smart_developer> k1l_ : But can "root" still do, everything ?
[21:45] <smart_developer> k1l_ : Even when not "owner" or in "group" ?
[21:45] <thoonai> hey, I'm having trouble with nfs
[21:46] <k1l_> smart_developer: well, somewhat: yes.
[21:46] <smart_developer> k1l_ : What do you mean by the "somewhat" ?
[21:46] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: You'll see some very obvious "Disk I/O Error" messages, each of about 5 lines, detailing the raw command that failed
[21:46] <k1l_> smart_developer: but you should setup your stuff that way, that you dont need that superuser in daily use.
[21:47] <ImActuallyACat> nope, don't see any.
[21:47] <thoonai> I can't mount a nfs share though on the nfs server a user with the same uid and name exists as my desktop user and the shared directory belongs to this user
[21:47] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Here's an example (the first photo shows them) http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/68147/i-o-errors-on-hard-disk-on-linux-boot
[21:48] <ImActuallyACat> nope, none.
[21:48] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: If there aren't disk I/O errors there's a good chance the data can be recovered in-situ, if we can first be sure what partitions and file-systems were on the disk before it went bad
[21:48] <smart_developer> k1l_ : Even having read s5fs article, I'm still a bit confused as to what the significance of "owner" is, and why permissions need to be set seperately for the "owner", aside from the "group" ?
[21:49] <smart_developer> k1l_ : And it seems that if you're the owner, why should anyone be setting permissions against you ?
[21:49] <smart_developer> After all, you're the owner, right?
[21:49] <smart_developer> And can owner be a group of users (more than one user) ?
[21:49] <k1l_> smart_developer: if you set the permissions to 700, only the owner can do all and even the group can do nothing
[21:49] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Do you have "pastebinit" installed in the Live environment? If not, please install it - we're going to need it!
[21:49] <daftykins> TJ- + ImActuallyACat - already present :)
[21:50] <k1l_> smart_developer: XYZ permissions stand for X=owner, Y=gropu, Z= all.
[21:50] <TJ-> daftykins: ImActuallyACat Great .... "pastebinit < <(sudo blkid)"
[21:50] <ashley123> hi, just a quick question
[21:50] <k1l_> owner 1 person, group= well a group, all = all
[21:50] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: daftykins I'll be a couple of minutes; putting the coffee-pot on :)
[21:50] <daftykins> ashley123: waiting for it (:
[21:51] <smart_developer> k1l_ : So then it seems that "owner" can only be 1 user, correct ?
[21:51] <ashley123> I set my ubuntu partition to be about 15 GB big when i installed ubuntu earlier (alongside windows 7), but it only shows the partition as having a capacity of 6.2 GB on Ubuntu
[21:51] <ImActuallyACat> thank you so much guys, i really appreciate it!
[21:51] <ashley123> im wondering where the rest has gone?
[21:51] <smart_developer> k1l_ : And lastly, can the "chmod" command only be run by "root" ?
[21:51] <daftykins> ashley123: are you in ubuntu right now?
[21:51] <k1l_> ashley123: please pastebin "df -h"
[21:51] <ashley123> yes
[21:51] <ashley123> in ubuntu right now
[21:51] <daftykins> ashley123: what k1l_ said :)
[21:52] <ashley123> um, never used paste bin before
[21:52] <ashley123> do i need to make an account
[21:52] <ashley123> or can we private message on irc?
[21:52] <k1l_> smart_developer: no, chmod is run by the owner. if you are not the owner you run as sudo.
[21:52] <daftykins> no, paste.ubuntu.com
[21:52] <k1l_> smart_developer: be dont get tricked into running all as sudo. just use sudo where you really need to
[21:52] <smart_developer> k1l_ : "Run as sudo" = "Run as root" ?
[21:52] <ashley123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399173/
[21:53] <ashley123> my SSD is 120 GB (advertised, actually smaller)
[21:53] <k1l_> smart_developer: on ubuntu there is no active root. you are running as user and if you need root-rights you use sudo
[21:53] <smart_developer> k1l_ : Okay, then "sudo" is the closest thing to the concept of "root", correct ?
[21:54] <k1l_> ashley123: please pastebin "sudo fdisk -l"   small L at the end
[21:54] <k1l_> smart_developer: yes. its used on ubuntu to not run as root all the time and do stuff accidently as root where it doesnt need root
[21:54] <ashley123> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399192/
[21:55] <k1l_> smart_developer: its like the admin user on windows, just that you dont run as admin all the time just preface a command with "sudo" to get that singe command the root rights
[21:55] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat daftykins  Can you show us "pastebinit < <(sudo blkid)"
[21:56] <karab44> we are the Champion of the World!
[21:56] <k1l_> ashley123: well, you only set 6GB to ubuntu. the other 8GB are used for swap
[21:56] <smart_developer> k1l_ : What's the difference between windows' admin user, and a superuser ?
[21:56] <ashley123> i set it to 15 GB when i was installing
[21:56] <ashley123> has the swap taken too much?
[21:56] <ImActuallyACat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399211/
[21:57] <thoonai> hey, I'm experiencing a curious error: if I'm mounting a nfs share  I can't access the data and ls -la shows like user 1001 owns the folde I mounted the nfs share to
[21:57] <k1l_> smart_developer: in short: there is none
[21:58] <k1l_> smart_developer: see windows: they changed that old "you need to loginto admin account all the time" to that dialog boxes who ask for admin permissions, too. that is what sudo is like on ubuntu
[21:59] <smart_developer> k1l_ : All right, I see. I can take it further from here. Thank you for your help.
[21:59] <smart_developer> :)
[21:59] <thoonai> and if I try to sudo chown mysuser sudo can't access the directory
[21:59] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: OK, so the tools that should be able to tell us what is in "/dev/sda2" can't see anything they recognise, which suggests the partition has been over-written by something else either totally or in-part, so we now need to look at that manually. Please show us "pastebinit < <(sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 bs=512 count=8 | hexdump -C)"
[21:59] <k1l_> smart_developer: just take some 15mintes to read the wiki pages linked by the bot
[22:00] <ashley123> k1l_:  I have 8GB of RAM, should I reduce the swap (because I'm guessing I don't need so much)?
[22:00] <eeee> ashley123: if you aren't going to use the hibernate feature, you can delete the swap partition.
[22:00] <k1l_> ashley123: well, if you want to hibernate you need some little more than you got ram
[22:00] <thoonai> anybody an idea whats going wrong?
[22:00] <ashley123> oh ok, thanks for the replies guys
[22:00] <ashley123> i usually leave my computer turned on because i have really slow internet
[22:01] <k1l_> ashley123: personally i dont have a swap at all (8Gb ram and ssd and no use of hibernation)
[22:01] <ashley123> but i do have hibernation disabled (by default i do believe)
[22:01] <ImActuallyACat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399227
[22:01] <daftykins> ashley123: your SSD is too small for even Windows alone i'd say, both on it is a bit of a masochistic move
[22:01] <thoonai> daftykins: huh? Windows works fine with 30GB or so
[22:02] <ashley123> daftykins: i dont have gigs upon gigs of videos/music/etc files stored
[22:02] <daftykins> thoonai: lol. off topic here but i fundamentally disagree
[22:02] <k1l_> ashley123: but honestly, 15GB is quite few space for a ubuntu. i got a 15GB / ( with 10GB used) and 70GB /home
[22:02] <ashley123> its fairly safe for me, i only have a bit of music and games, and mostly do programming now (learning anyway)
[22:02] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Not looking good - those first 8 sectors of the partition should have something other than all zeros in them; your output shows nothing at all. This looks like something has blanked the partition
[22:02] <thoonai> sure Windows is a stupid idea, but it works
[22:02] <thoonai> don't separate /home to an extra partition
[22:03] <ImActuallyACat> so it's all gone?
[22:03] <thoonai> it does not makeexactly much sense
[22:03] <k1l_> thoonai: it does
[22:03] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Install "testdisk" and use it; it may be able to find something and then we can decide if it is possible/safe to let testdisk make changse
[22:03] <thoonai> k1l_: tell me
[22:03] <thoonai> k1l_: I'm wonderign
[22:03] <k1l_> thoonai: doesnt flood / partition
[22:03] <thoonai> and I could need some help with nfs though ...
[22:03] <ashley123> i did have a 1TB HDD I was running alonside the SSD, but I hardly ever used it and it showed signs of failing (BSOD a lot until I disconnected it)
[22:04] <ImActuallyACat> alright, it's installed and running.
[22:04] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Despite its name "testdisk" actually scans the raw data looking for the signatures of partitions and file-systems and gives options to recreate them so that an operating system can read them
[22:04] <thoonai> k1l_: ? what should flood a partition? user or root? I thought you have like 5% reserver for root on ext4?
[22:05] <somedudez> hello there! is it possible that installing 3 oses may slow down the hard disk rpm ?
[22:05] <ashley123> somedudez: you never run them all at once, so no
[22:05] <TJ-> somedudez: No
[22:05] <thoonai> somedudez: sure, after 20 OSes the disks stops because its too heavy
[22:06] <somedudez> but wouldnt the hard disk have. to "travel longer" to reach dofferent filesystems ?
[22:06] <thoonai> somedudez: no nothing happens you just have les space
[22:06] <TJ-> somedudez: That might be the case for tape drives, but not spinning disks
[22:06] <thoonai> +s
[22:06] <k1l_> thoonai: yep, or if you want to reinstall and want to keep user data, etc etc etc
[22:06] <somedudez> i see, fair e ough thanks !
[22:07] <thoonai> k1l_: never did separate partitions, never had any problems
[22:07] <k1l_> thoonai: i dont ride my bike with a bike helmet, never had any problems :/
[22:08] <ImActuallyACat> what do i do next?
[22:08] <thoonai> k1l_: oh sure, yes I'm experiencing weekly trouble with an server because glorious master admin separated the partitions and they ever flood with /tmp waste
[22:08] <thoonai> k1l_: sure thats no legit argument, sorry ;)
[22:08] <k1l_> thoonai: i mean: if you experience issues (on a standard user desktop system) its already too late for our discussion.
[22:09] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: If testdisk has positive results (claims to have found file-systems other that /dev/sda1), pastebin the report and let us consider it
[22:09] <Krixvar> Hey all, anyone have an idea why an apt upgrade would result in my nvidia drivers breaking to the point that xrandr doesn't work and I don't have a nvidia-xconfig command anymore? I've tried completely reinstalling 3 different versions of the drivers to no avail
[22:09] <thoonai> k1l_: ? huh
[22:09] <ImActuallyACat> okay, how do i do that?
[22:09] <daftykins> Krixvar: if they were manually installed from an nvidia website download, yeah, that could break things
[22:10] <k1l_> thoonai: yeah, server systems do have other requirements and even a lot of spare partitions for different mount points do make sense.
[22:10] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sudo testdisk, No Log > No Log > select disk
[22:10] <Krixvar> daftykins -- straight from the repos, that's why I was so surprised
[22:10] <somedudez> abother questions: does Tor modify network config?
[22:10] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: what are you trying to recover?
[22:10] <ImActuallyACat> i selected the disk.
[22:10] <thoonai> k1l_: if the root partition floods every week with >20GB waste in /tmp something goes somewhat very wrong
[22:11] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: ext4 ? ntfs ?
[22:11] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Has testdisk reported it can recover aanything?
[22:11] <Krixvar> daftykins: I just ran apt-get upgrade last night, didn't notice anything about nvidia, this morning its stuck at low resolutions and nvidia-settings doens't show any options
[22:11] <ImActuallyACat> do i select the intel option, then analyze?
[22:11] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Can you pleae prefix your comments with my nickname; use tab-complete if needed to quickly select a nick-name
[22:11] <q120> Is there anybody who knows if there is an app for Ubuntu that will let me configure audio out formats such as bitrate, speaker settings (5.1, 7.1, etc)? I have one (Pulseaudio Volume Control) that definitely gives me many more options than is typical, but I'd like to be able to change some other parameters.
[22:11] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Yes
[22:12] <q120> I'm not averse to manually editing files, if there is no GUI available
[22:12] <thoonai> and if I try to sudo chown mysuser sudo can't access the directory
[22:13] <TJ-> eeee: sda, 750GB msdos PT, 2 partitions, sda1 == /boot, sda2 primary.... zeroed for at least 1st 8 sectors. Using xbuntu live env, no disk I/O errors seen in logs
[22:14] <eeee> TJ-: ok
[22:15] <thoonai> oh  I have still trouble with my nfs not being properly mounted and changing the user and group id
[22:15] <Bashing-om> ImActuallyACat: TJ- :: as a new user, this may prove helpfull: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/ ;  written in a user-friendly way and introduces you to testdisk in a gentle way .
[22:16] <thoonai> I'm getting stupid about this nfs stuff, it makes no sense at all
[22:17] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: Thanks for the private message, but it'd be more helpful to keep all messages in the channel window so everyone can help you. You don't need to send me a message directly, just prefix any comments addressed to me with "TJ-" so my IRC client highlights them for me.
[22:18] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: eeee daftykins OK, testdisk is reporting "* Linux and P Linux LVM"
[22:18] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: You need to tell Testdisk to try to recover the "Linux LVM" which is what is in "/dev/sda2"
[22:18] <ImActuallyACat> TJ- ahh okay thanks.
[22:19] <daftykins> TJ-: interesting, no LVM experience here but i'd have thought it would've been seen as encompassing the entire 750GB disk? :)
[22:19] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: you can view the files by pressing 'p' over the partition
[22:20] <TJ-> daftykins: No ... GRUB might not like booting from LVM LV, so in that case a separate /boot/ is created.... this is to allow the option to use full-disk  encryption on the LVM PV
[22:21] <daftykins> TJ-: ah-haaa, so potentially nothing is wrong at all? :)
[22:21] <TJ-> daftykins: Well, yes, because something has clobbered the LVM metadata from sda2 so it looks empty to the file-system tools
[22:22] <daftykins> TJ-: oh ok, it's no voodoo tech then :)
[22:23] <thoonai> nfs is voodoo and it fdrives me insane
[22:24] <ImActuallyACat> TJ-: daftykins: what do i do next?
[22:25] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: did you use the right arrow to make the partitions you want recovered green?
[22:25] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: yes, both are green.
[22:26] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: TJ- daftykins ok, then write to disk, i guess?
[22:26] <TJ-> ImActuallyACat: eeee can guide you well here; I need to go now, good luck with it
[22:26] <daftykins> eeee: i've no experience with that one myself :)
[22:26] <daftykins> TJ-: thanks for the assist
[22:27] <ImActuallyACat> TJ-: daftykins: thank you so much for the help!
[22:27] <daftykins> no problemo
[22:27] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: how do i write to disk? dk
[22:27] <daftykins> glad my instincts to check with someone better panned out
[22:27] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: do i set them both as primary? then just press enter to continue
[22:27] <ImActuallyACat> ?
[22:28] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: daftykins yeah, i think so
[22:28] <eeee> daftykins: ?
[22:28] <nahtnam> Hey!
[22:28] <eeee> I've no idea about LVM stuff
[22:29] <nahtnam> Im trying to install this: https://github.com/erming/shout-build But im not sure where to put the folder. I want it to have its own launcher icon.
[22:29] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: so i restarted the laptop and it's giving me the error missing operating system.
[22:29] <daftykins> eeee: sorry i don't have any experience with the current process
[22:30] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: did you write to disk?
[22:30] <ImActuallyACat> yes.
[22:30] <eeee> did you try the backup BS thing?
[22:30] <eeee> ( i think that checks the boot sector )
[22:30] <ImActuallyACat> no i did not.
[22:31] <eeee> ok, might be worth a shot
[22:31] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: give me a little bit to try and do so.
[22:31] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: do you have a windows cd ?
[22:32] <Bray9082_> Is there anyways to lock the dashboard to the desktop so it's always open
[22:32] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: no i do not.
[22:32] <thoonai> ok it works wit 755 permissions,but this is not exactly fine
[22:32] <thoonai> I dislike nfs so much
[22:33] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: so i just started up testdisk again, and now it's giving me quite a few drive options to select.
[22:34] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: including /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root which startup said was missing when the problem occured.
[22:35] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: do i still select /dev/sda to backup the BS thing?
[22:36] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: i think so
[22:36] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: do you have another PC with windows on it?
[22:36] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: i think you need to write the MBR
[22:37] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: yes i do, so i just write the TestDisk MBR code to the first sector?
[22:37] <eeee> no, i don't exactly know what that does
[22:37] <eeee> i was thinking you could use that pc to make a recovery usb, boot to a command prompt and fix the mbr
[22:38] <eeee> is this win8?
[22:38] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: win7.
[22:38] <eeee> let me see what that testdisk mbr option does
[22:40] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: ok, try the recovery BS thing
[22:40] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: how do i do that?
[22:40] <eeee> get the partitions the way you want them, and then after writing, press the backup BS option
[22:41] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: did that, now write?
[22:41] <eeee> yeah
[22:41] <eeee> what options do you get?
[22:42] <ImActuallyACat> "write partition table, confirm ? [y/n]"
[22:42] <eeee> yeah
[22:42] <ImActuallyACat> now reboot?
[22:42] <eeee> i mean after that what does it say?
[22:42] <eeee> no, wait
[22:42] <ImActuallyACat> it just says you have to reboot for the change to take effect.
[22:42] <eeee> it should say something to the right, like use backup bs
[22:43] <eeee> or something like that
[22:44] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: nothing?
[22:44] <ImActuallyACat> nope.
[22:44] <eeee> alright, i guess reboot
[22:44] <eeee> and enter testdisk agai
[22:44] <eeee> and try to write the testdisk MBR
[22:44] <jhutchins> For the root device you have to reboot for partition changes. Non root device doesn't require reboot.
[22:45] <ImActuallyACat> do i reboot the laptop or the program?
[22:45] <eeee> it tries to boot whatever bootsectors it finds in the partition's
[22:45] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: yeah try to reboot
[22:46] <nahtnam> Im trying to install this: https://github.com/erming/shout-build But im not sure where to put the folder. I want it to have its own launcher icon.
[22:46] <ImActuallyACat> still get missing operating system error.
[22:46] <ImActuallyACat> "reboot and select proper boot device".
[22:46] <eeee> nahtnam: if you know the command to launch the program, launcher icons go in /usr/share/applications ( as .desktop files )
[22:47] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: ok, enter testdisk and try to write the testdisk MBR
[22:47] <nahtnam> eeee There is no command
[22:47] <nahtnam> its a tarball file
[22:47] <eeee> nahtnam: follow the instructions of the author
[22:49] <nahtnam> eeee Yes, he says run build.sh, but when you run it, it just generates executable in the same folder
[22:49] <Dako300>  /msg NickSert identify danomann
[22:50] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: i wrote the testdisk mbr.
[22:50] <Dako300>  /msg NickServ identify danomann
[22:50] <eeee> nahtnam: so your command would be /path/to/executable i guess
[22:50] <eeee> nahtnam: try to run it in the terminal
[22:50] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: ok, restart i guess
[22:50] <nahtnam> eeee Ohhhh ok. I see what you mean! Where would the best place to put the folder with the exec files?
[22:51] <ImActuallyACat> okay, so now all i get is "1234F:"
[22:51] <eeee> nahtnam: if you want you can put it in /usr/bin , (that would let all users have access to it) , or you could make a ~/bin directory in your home, and it would be added to your PATH
[22:51] <Dako300> I have a Dell Latitude D620 that I want to use Intel graphics for. I set the BIOS to onboard graphics but the nouveau driver keeps on loading. I tried to blacklist it but it does not load i915. Is there any way to fix this. I believe this laptop is too old for Optimus.
[22:52] <nahtnam> eeee Thanks!
[22:52] <eeee> np
[22:52] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: ok press 1
[22:52] <eeee> it should try to boot from the first partition
[22:53] <ImActuallyACat> nothing happened.
[22:53] <eeee> 2?
[22:53] <ImActuallyACat> nope.
[22:53] <ImActuallyACat> tried, 3,4, and f, nothing.
[22:53] <eeee> ok, well i guess you can try to make a recovery usb using win7
[22:54] <ImActuallyACat> is 2gb enough?
[22:54] <eeee> i'm too well versed in these stuff, i'm not sure it would work, worth a shot i guess
[22:54] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: yeah
[22:55] <ImActuallyACat> okay, so what do i do now?
[22:55] <samuel_> if i have a Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) how can i know mine chipset ??
[22:55] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: try to go to the control panel and search for recovery
[22:55] <ImActuallyACat> in win7?
[22:56] <Krixvar> sorry to ask again.. just totally lost as to why I no longer can run nvidia-xconfig - I asked a friend who recently updated as well and he is still able to
[22:56] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: yeah, i'm not sure about win7, win8 has it
[22:56] <Dako300> I have a Dell Latitude D620 that I want to use Intel graphics for. I set the BIOS to onboard graphics but the nouveau driver keeps on loading. I tried to blacklist it but it does not load i915. Is there any way to fix this. I believe this laptop is too old for Optimus.
[22:57] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: if it's not there, follow this guide to make one http://en.kioskea.net/faq/29462-windows-7-create-a-system-repair-usb-key
[22:57] <nahtnam> eeee When I try running ~/bin/path/to/executable/shout I get this error: `[15957:0921/155715:INFO:gpu_info_collector_x11.cc(80)] NVCtrl extension does not exist.`
[22:58] <eeee> nahtnam: are you using the open source drivers?
[22:59] <nahtnam> eeee My laptop drivers? They are System 76 drivers
[22:59] <eeee> nahtnam: not sure what the program does, but usually if you need gpu stuff you'd need the proprietary drivers
[22:59] <CasW> Hey guys, I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 and it can't discover any bluetooth devices, even though (from dmesg) bluetooth appears to be properly initialized
[22:59] <nahtnam> eeee Oh lol
[22:59] <nahtnam> I think I figured it out
[22:59] <nahtnam> Thanks
[22:59] <nahtnam> :P
[23:01] <mavenblue> hey, I got a question about dual monitors: why does ubuntu insist that the monitor on the left is the primary monitor?
[23:02] <eeee> mavenblue: i think you can drag and rearrange them in settings > display
[23:03] <mavenblue> I've tried display settings, catalyst settins, xrandr settings, I can make my right monitor primary, but as soon as I tell ubuntu that it's on the right side my task bar etc jump to the left
[23:05] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: okay, i followed and finished those steps, what next?
[23:06] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: ok, boot it in the pc
[23:06] <mavenblue> eeee: yeah, I can tell linux which monitor is on which side, but it refuses to allow the one shown as being on the right side to be the primary display
[23:06] <CasW> Sorry, it crashed. Anyone have a solution for Ubuntu not being able to detect any devices even though dmesg says it's properly initialized? One thing that caught my attention is the fact that it seems that there are two bluetooth controllers
[23:07] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: now i get "disk i/o error"
[23:07] <mavenblue> as soon as I click "right of" "crt2" everything jumps to the left display
[23:08] <eeee> mavenblue: try to turn off monitor you want as secondary, and press apply
[23:08] <eeee> mavenblue: then turn it back on
[23:09] <mavenblue> eeee: same dif
[23:10] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: booting the usb is giving that?
[23:10] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: yes.
[23:10] <ImActuallyACat> should i try a different usb drive?
[23:10] <eeee> yes,
[23:11] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: you could also try to boot it on the other pc
[23:11] <ImActuallyACat> okay, give me a little bit.
[23:12] <eeee> mavenblue: you did turn it off in settings > display right?
[23:13] <eeee> mavenblue: in settings, there should be launcher placement
[23:16] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: any luck?
[23:20] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: if you have a win8 pc, you can make a recovery usb for win7 there
[23:20] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: working on it now, i'm trying a different usb.
[23:21] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: nope, no luck.
[23:21] <eeee> argh
[23:22] <eeee> also i/o error?
[23:22] <ImActuallyACat> now i get "remove disks or other media. press any key to restart"
[23:23] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: is the USB's priority first in the boot options?
[23:23] <ImActuallyACat> yes.
[23:24] <ImActuallyACat> when i press a key, it brings me back to just "1234F:"
[23:24] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: what kind of usb is it?
[23:25] <ImActuallyACat> a 1gb crucial gizmo! jr.
[23:25] <daftykins> 0o
[23:27] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: does the usb boot in the other pc?
[23:27] <ImActuallyACat> give me a second to try.
[23:27] <daftykins> ok, but only one!
[23:28] <eeee> :)
[23:30] <ImActuallyACat> nope, same error on a different computer.
[23:31] <daftykins> what are you guys trying to get this second drive to boot?
[23:31] <ImActuallyACat> should i format that usb, and make it a bootable usb with boot-repair-disk?
[23:33] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: yes, give it a shot
[23:34] <eeee> daftykins: we're trying to use boot a win7 recovery usb to fix the mbr and bs
[23:34] <daftykins> is that not something just reinstalling GRUB can sort?
[23:34] <eeee> daftykins: i think he is running windows only
[23:34] <eeee> good question though
[23:34] <eeee> lol
[23:35] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: are you running windows only??
[23:35] <ImActuallyACat> on the drive that i'm trying to fix? no, ubuntu only.
[23:35] <eeee> :D
[23:35]  * daftykins wondered where the Windows boot factored in
[23:35] <eeee> well, that's great!
[23:36] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: boot a live usb
[23:36] <ImActuallyACat> okay.
[23:37] <ImActuallyACat> is xubuntu okay? that's the only one i have right now.
[23:37] <daftykins> yip
[23:37] <ImActuallyACat> okay cool.
[23:39] <ImActuallyACat> okay, in xubuntu.
[23:39] <eeee> ok is this efi ?
[23:39] <ImActuallyACat> efi?
[23:39] <eeee> if you do sudo parted -l , what partitions do you get
[23:40] <daftykins> eeee: nah msdos
[23:40] <eeee> daftykins: ah, right.
[23:40] <daftykins> worth us seeing an updated parted -l anyway though i'd say
[23:40] <daftykins> given all that testdisk confusion
[23:40] <eeee> yeah
[23:40] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:41] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[23:41] <eeee> then sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[23:41] <Krixvar> So I've cycled through 2 proprietary drivers from the ubuntu repos as well as one from xorg-edgers, and they're all behaving the same... so I feel like it was something else. How can I see what packages got updated yesterday when I ran apt-get upgrade?
[23:42] <daftykins> Krixvar: dunno, but pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:42] <daftykins> Krixvar: also "dpkg -l | grep nvidia"
[23:42] <trism> Krixvar: /var/log/apt/history.log will show you exactly what got upgraded
[23:42] <ImActuallyACat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399710/
[23:42] <Krixvar> thanks one sec
[23:43] <Krixvar> xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399717/
[23:44] <Krixvar> dpkg -l : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399724/
[23:45] <Krixvar> I've also tried nvidia-304 from repos and 340 from edgers (removed edgers with ppa purge after it didn't work any different)
[23:45] <X3fyr> this is probably asked a lot but is there anyway to move the launcher to the bottom of the screen?
[23:46] <daftykins> Krixvar: what ubuntu version is this? "cat /etc/issue"
[23:46] <daftykins> ah nm i read the wrong line
[23:46] <reisio> X3fyr: yes
[23:46] <X3fyr> 14.04
[23:46] <bubbasaures> X3fyr, No but there are docks
[23:46] <reisio> X3fyr: there's a bug on launchpad about it, and there are solutions in its comments
[23:47] <Krixvar> daftykins -- 14.04, Kubuntu but I think this is a general ubuntu/nvidia
[23:47] <daftykins> Krixvar: yeah your nvidia install is trashed, you have no built modules for the current kernel
[23:47] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sudo sh -ec "apt-get install lvm2; vgchange -ay"
[23:47] <Guest57479> bonsoir
[23:47] <daftykins> Krixvar: "sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia* "
[23:48] <Krixvar> daftykins: I've done that between every reinstall but I'll try again, should I install any headers or dev files so it actually builds it?
[23:48] <ImActuallyACat> eeee: just did that.
[23:48] <daftykins> Krixvar: install nvidia-current and see that it actually generates it
[23:48] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[23:49] <ImActuallyACat> unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[23:49] <Krixvar> daftykins: gotcha, I'll get back to you in a sec.. feeling like this is somehow related to the fact that I've had to manually modprobe nvidia_331 in a tty before logging in for the last few months... hadn't ever had time to fix it
[23:50] <daftykins> Krixvar: lmao
[23:50] <Krixvar> daftykins: pretty much
[23:50] <OERIAS> ?join #ISIL
[23:50] <daftykins> Krixvar: and you only mention this NOW!? *faepalm*
[23:51] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: try sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /mnt
[23:51] <Krixvar> daftykins: it technically worked fine :P plus getting a terminal on login kept people from logging in without me around 0.o
[23:51] <Krixvar> looks like the install worked http://paste.ubuntu.com/8399749/
[23:51] <ImActuallyACat> okay did that.
[23:51] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Krixvar Maybe ->above command will also remove the nvidia-common package and the nvidia-common package has as a dependency the ubuntu-desktop package (??).
[23:52] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot
[23:52] <daftykins> Krixvar: i take it you've been modprobing it now and restarting X after to test?
[23:52] <ImActuallyACat> okay.
[23:52] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[23:52] <Krixvar> daftykins: that or rebooting since this morning I tried modprobing and it did nothing but a reboot resulted in a low res login
[23:52] <daftykins> Krixvar: so now "sudo service lightdm restart"
[23:53] <Krixvar> daftykins: no modprobe first?
[23:53] <ImActuallyACat> sorry, i don't quite understand that.
[23:53] <daftykins> Krixvar: no, nor should it ever be necessary
[23:53] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: it's a command
[23:53] <Krixvar> daftykins: interesting okay, be right back
[23:54] <ImActuallyACat> type, "sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i"?
[23:54] <daftykins> ImActuallyACat: type his whole line "for...
[23:54] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: no run the whole command, "for ....done"
[23:54] <ImActuallyACat> ahh okay.
[23:55] <Krixvar> daftykins: should have known better than to run it from the desktop.. ran it again from a tty and got a low res login page again
[23:55] <Krixvar> daftykins: dpm
[23:55] <ImActuallyACat> okay done.
[23:55] <Krixvar> daftykins: whoops, don't* have any higher resolutions available either
[23:55] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: chroot /mnt
[23:56] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sorry, sudo chroot /mnt
[23:56] <ImActuallyACat> operation not permitted.
[23:56] <daftykins> Krixvar: do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? delete it if so
[23:56] <ImActuallyACat> okay done.
[23:56] <daftykins> Krixvar: rather, rename it to xorg.conf.old
[23:57] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[23:57] <Krixvar> daftykins: did that earlier I believe, there's nothing there now
[23:57] <smart_developer> How do you (1) count how many processes are currently running, and (2) set the maximum number of processes running for a user ?
[23:57] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: might not need sudo there
[23:57] <Krixvar> daftykins: also strange is that the nvidia-xconfig command doesn't exist on my computer now
[23:57] <ImActuallyACat> installation finished, no error reported.
[23:58] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: update-grub
[23:58] <daftykins> Krixvar: you definitely checked ?
[23:58] <Krixvar> daftykins: yeah, nano says new file
[23:58] <ImActuallyACat> done.
[23:58] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: type exit
[23:58] <Krixvar> daftykins: running xrandr gives "Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[23:58] <Krixvar> " so I feel like this is a larger issue than the graphics drivers :(
[23:58] <ImActuallyACat> okay.
[23:58] <daftykins> Krixvar: nano? lol man don't do things such a weird way. "ls -al /etc/X11/
[23:58] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: sudo reboot
[23:59] <ImActuallyACat> should i remove the usb?
[23:59] <eeee> ImActuallyACat: yeah, let it boot without it
[23:59] <ImActuallyACat> okay.