[12:03] <SlimG> spiritz: will xgl support other cards in the future?
[12:03] <ryanakca> holotone: are you on dapper or breezy?
[12:03] <holotone> breezy
[12:03] <bobbyd> Rayman_, but there are no kde packages there, do you just use the breezy ones?
[12:03] <ryanakca> drats... Its in the dapper repos
[12:04] <spiritz> SlimG: others such as?
[12:04] <Rayman_> bobbyd: I only use stuff that's in those. Maybe you should join #ubuntu+1 and ask them?
[12:04] <ryanakca> holotone: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=35038
[12:05] <Rayman_> I think it's ok to use some breezy stuff.
[12:05] <SlimG> spiritz: Intel
[12:05] <ryanakca> holotone: you can download it from there... it should work on breezy
[12:05] <bobbyd> Rayman_, ok thanks
[12:05] <holotone> ryanakca: awesome, thanks!
[12:05] <ryanakca> download it, then go "sudo dpkg -i <packagename>.deb" :)
[12:05] <spiritz> SlimG: U can already use it with intel I think; u should check ubuntu forums
[12:05] <ryanakca> hope it works, I'm off to supper!
[12:06] <SlimG> spiritz: tnx alot :)
[12:06] <bobbyd> is anyone here on dapper and using kde?
[12:07] <spiritz> bobbyd: I do
[12:07] <bobbyd> when I try to jsut change my sources to dapper it tried to remove kde when I upgrade :)
[12:07] <bobbyd> spiritz, what do you use for your kde sources? just the breezy ones?
[12:07] <Rayman_> bobbyd: do update, upgrade, dist-upgrade
[12:07] <Rayman_> in that order.
[12:08] <bobbyd> Rayman_, I don't see how you can get KDE without any kde sources...
[12:08] <spiritz> bobbyd: actually since kde 3.5.2 just got out, I'm using the kubuntu dapper repos; but you might have dep problems because you're upgrading, it might be a mess; I would advise a clean install.
[12:09] <bobbyd> ok
[12:09] <Rayman_> bobbyd: I've seen some talk on #ubuntu+1 that doing all those steps prevents removal of KDE
[12:09] <Rayman_> haven't tried it tho.
[12:09] <bobbyd> ok
[12:10] <spiritz> Rayman_: which steps are u talking about?
[12:18] <Rayman_> spiritz: doing upgrade before dist-upgrade
[12:19] <spiritz> Rayman_: Ok, good to know
[12:20] <anarko> hi!
[12:21] <Rayman_> spiritz: kubuntu dapper repos?
[12:21] <Rayman_> have I missed something? :)
[12:22] <spiritz> I guess so
[12:22] <spiritz> deb http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/kde352 dapper main
[12:24] <Rayman_> ah. ty.
[12:32] <SlimG> can't get my kubuntu RSS to work in akregator, anyone else have this problem or just me? (http://www.kubuntu.org/kubuntu.rss)
[12:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hold on, let me add it to akregator
[12:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> 'Tis not found here either.
[12:34] <SlimG> CheeseBurgerMan: *doh*
[12:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> Although interestingly enough, Kubuntu is added by default with a different URL
[12:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://kubuntu.org/kubuntu.rss
[12:34] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm
[12:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Wait, no it's not
[12:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[12:35] <SlimG> CheeseBurgerMan: tried both, the RSS exists, either the RSS contains some error, or the akregator got a bug
[12:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Alright.
[12:36] <CheeseBurgerMan> Firefox doesn't show that the feed exists either.
[12:37] <SlimG> CheeseBurgerMan: okej, pretty good chance that the RSS is faulty
[12:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> Although when subscribing in Opera, I did get it
[12:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm
[12:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> Aha
[12:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> XML parsing failed: syntax error (Line: 40, Character: 102)
[12:38] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's where it is. :P
[12:39] <SlimG> CheeseBurgerMan: can't see anything wrong with line 40 char 102, its a "4"
[12:39] <CheeseBurgerMan> Now I don't have the ability to edit it, so if anyone here knows where the Kubuntu site maintainers are on IRC, it'd probably be easier.
[12:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> Opera highlights an "&"
[12:41] <SlimG> CheeseBurgerMan: i'll try run it thru an RSS validator
[12:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK
[12:44] <Random_Transit> hey...how do i get iptables to open a port on my system?
[12:48] <bobbyd> #lua
[12:54] <miguel> holaaaaaaaaaa
[12:54] <miguel> hay alguien de Espaa???
[12:55] <miguel> hi,any people of spain
[12:56] <crimsun> try #kubuntu-es
[12:56] <miguel> thank you
[12:59] <conn> quick question, how do you people create diffs? I tried "diff dir1 dir2 >patch.diff", and when I try to apply the patch "patch -p0 <patch.diff" it doesn't work. Is there some switches I should specify to create a diff that will actually work for patching purposes?
[01:00] <crimsun> yes, if you're diffing 2 dirs, you need to use -uNr
[01:01] <crimsun> moreover, the -p parameter you use for patch is important (else see -d)
[01:36] <_phil> how do i burn the iso for kubuntu
[01:37] <Red_Herring> !iso
[01:37] <ubotu> methinks iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[01:46] <_wicked> what should i use instead of sudo kate
[01:46] <crimsun> aren't you supposed to use kdesu kate?
[01:46] <_wicked> desu :D
[01:46] <_wicked> thx
[01:50] <me2win> !fglrx
[01:50] <ubotu> fglrx is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:55] <me2win> !repos
[01:55] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:58] <Intelnux> anyone home?
[02:01] <Intelnux> what TV card software do you use? something like mythtv?
[02:04] <bobbyd> Intelnux, xawtv is a simple app to watch tv, myth is more havyweight, for recording etc.
[02:04] <Intelnux> I want it for recording
[02:05] <Intelnux> I was unhappy wiht the quality on windows plaaatform
[02:05] <Intelnux> aand was told nux has the best video
[02:05] <Intelnux> so I've got all these PCI500 cards
[02:06] <arrinmurr> kaffeine is great for dvb
[02:06] <Intelnux> and suse Xandros Kubuntu and Debian to test
[02:07] <Intelnux> it would be great if I can save the video as avi on one pass
[02:07] <Intelnux> and have high quality
[02:08] <arrinmurr> err.. you want to record dvb-stream straight to avi?
[02:09] <Intelnux> yes if possible
[02:09] <Intelnux> I only know that I take to long to make a release of a TV ep at p[resent
[02:09] <Intelnux> It takes me over an hour just to compress
[02:10] <arrinmurr> make a release?
[02:10] <Intelnux> 45 minutes of edited show to 350meg
[02:11] <Intelnux> is  kaffeine good for anoluge tv also?
[02:12] <arrinmurr> i don't think it supports that
[02:13] <Intelnux> where I live we don't have but maybe 7 channels of digital
[02:13] <Intelnux> and the scif channel is not one of them
[02:16] <blindmoses> anyone know if you can boot kubuntu from a creative mp3 (hard disc) player?
[02:21] <blindmoses> anyone know if you can boot kubuntu from a creative mp3 (hard disc) player?
[02:22] <Mirdass> hi, whats the default root password for dapper as i was never asked when i installed!
[02:28] <me2win> !fglrx
[02:28] <ubotu> I guess fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:37] <arrinmurr> Mirdass: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:37] <Mirdass> thx
[02:38] <tjansson60> I added both universe and multivers and still dapper won't download w32codecs
[02:39] <tjansson60> I tells me "E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate"
[02:39] <jtshaw> I did a quick search on the repo and didn't find it...
[02:40] <bimberi> !w32codecs
[02:40] <ubotu> I guess w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:43] <tjansson60> I just thought that they were in some repos? Do you have a link for libdvdcss2 aswell?
[02:43] <bimberi> !dvd
[02:43] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:43] <bimberi> :)
[02:45] <tjansson60> they will work for dapper?
[02:46] <bimberi> tjansson60: not sure sorry, i haven't tried, if noone here responds you could try in #ubuntu+1
[02:47] <tjansson60> kewl - will do
[03:03] <JohnP789> Anybody know why k3b won't exit?
[03:03] <JohnP789> It's not hung, but it won't exit or close.
[03:04] <JohnP789> It launched when I clicked an ISO file in Konqueror.
[03:21] <greg> heelo
[03:21] <greg> or hello
[03:25] <Arcanimus> hi greg
[03:25] <Arcanimus> how are you?
[03:29] <pestilence> does anybody know how to get the xinerama features of kde going in kubuntu?
[03:32] <greg> Hi. I'm writing parititions in kubuntu install.
[03:32] <me2win> nice
[03:32] <greg> Q: primary vs. logical.  If I want partitions of /, /home and swap, which should be logical, which primary?
[03:33] <me2win> do you have any other partitions other than those 3 on the disk?
[03:34] <greg> not ON THE DISK, per se.
[03:35] <me2win> greg, you can have up to 4 primary partitions, so if you are only going to end up with 3 different partitions in all, then you can make them all primary
[03:35] <greg> k.
[03:35] <crowbar> Is there a kde program fro accessing a creative zen micro?
[03:36] <greg> Ubuntu likes reiserfs-- other distroes recommend it.
[03:36] <greg> question that is.
[03:37] <greg> restating:  Is reiserfs a good file system for ubuntu-- other distros recommended it for theirs.
[03:37] <me2win> ext3 ftw
[03:37] <greg> sorry ftw?
[03:38] <me2win> for the win
[03:38] <greg> sorry :)  for the Windows (TM)?
[03:39] <me2win> heh no, its an expression, like if you think football is the best sport, you would say   football ftw
[03:39] <greg> k thx :)
[03:39] <me2win> in this case i said ext3 ftw, as if to say ext3 is the best
[03:39] <me2win> as far as personal opinion goes at least
[03:39] <me2win> heh
[03:39] <greg> crowbar-- have you simply tried accessing it with something like konqueror?
[03:40] <greg> cool

[03:41] <crowbar> greg: simply is misleading.  anything i have to do to make it come up in konq?  Doesn't happen automatically when i plug it in.
[03:41] <greg> k sorry n00bhead myself is
[03:41] <Dr_House> i'm in breezy kubuntu ... when i open "storage media" i'm supposed to see the linux hdd, right?
[03:41] <me2win> crowbar, does mounting it work?
[03:42] <crowbar> oh, ok :)  I'll keep digging around then.
[03:42] <crowbar> me2win: it isn't a mass storage device i don't think.
[03:42] <greg> okay, here's dumb advice from SUSE:
[03:42] <me2win> Dr_House, when you open up storage media it shows you all of your mounted file systems
[03:42] <greg> There was a desktop option in KDE (right click on desktop), find menu for automatically displaying moutned devices.
[03:42] <greg> THEN REBOOT
[03:43] <Dr_House> me2win lol it's not showing anything ... either the hdd that linux is installed on or either of the two ntfs hdds i have
[03:43] <greg> it wasn't working until I rebooted.  (Warning: n00bhead w/ SUSE experience)
[03:43] <me2win> Dr_House, lol, does it show anything at all?
[03:43] <Dr_House> me2win lol no
[03:44] <me2win> hah, have you messed with your fstab recently?
[03:44] <Dr_House> nope .. dont know what an fstab is
[03:44] <Dr_House> well .. maybe ..
[03:44] <Dr_House> inadvertantly, possibly
[03:44] <me2win> fstab is what linux looks for when it is going to mount something at start up or using the mount command
[03:46] <me2win> Dr_House, when you click it, what shows up in the URL bar?
[03:46] <Dr_House> hm .. last night, even though i didn't see the NTFS hdds in "storage media" (although the linux hdd was there), i did "sudo fdisk" and took note of the things like "sdb1, hdc1, etc" .. and tried a "sudo mount ..." command, but it didnt work
[03:46] <Dr_House> it shows media:/
[03:46] <me2win> hmm
[03:48] <Dr_House> sudo fdisk -l shows all three drives
[03:48] <me2win> wierd
[03:48] <me2win> do you have custom spots for them all?
[03:48] <Dr_House> what do you mean?
[03:49] <me2win> are they mounted on /media/customnamethatyoumadeup  or like /media/hda1
[03:49] <Dr_House> they are on /dev/sda1
[03:49] <Dr_House> etc
[03:50] <me2win> sata aye?
[03:50] <Dr_House> two are SATA, one is IDE
[03:50] <me2win> im not gonna lie to you thats kinda wierd
[03:51] <Dr_House> lol
[03:58] <SlimG> someone here that know how the AWK command should look like when searching for STRING1 and replacing it with STRING2 in FILE ?
[03:58] <greg> Hello. At "end" of boot. nothing is happening.  How long is TOO long???
[03:58] <greg> Sorry end of install
[03:58] <mendred> Dr_House: do u have the dbus-hal service running?
[03:59] <mendred> damn hes gone..
[03:59] <me2win> mendred, ill ask him he is talking to me on gaim
[03:59] <me2win> what does he need to do if it isnt?
[03:59] <mendred> sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[03:59] <mendred> ask him to try that
[04:00] <mendred> hmmm hes using breezy right?
[04:00] <me2win> yeah
[04:00] <mendred> then i wonder if there is a hald as well...
[04:00] <mendred> wait
[04:01] <mendred> also after that
[04:01] <mendred> sudo /etc/init.d/hald restart
[04:01] <mendred> in that order
[04:01] <me2win> aaaaaight
[04:10] <me2win> !fglrx
[04:10] <ubotu> somebody said fglrx was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:11] <me2win> mendred, what does restarting those 2 do?
[04:13] <mendred> hal is ur device manager
[04:13] <mendred> so if it isn't started no disks show up
[04:13] <mendred> btw
[04:13] <mendred> if this doesn't work..
[04:13] <mendred> ask him to
[04:14] <mendred> open /etc/default/hal
[04:14] <mendred> and paste the contents in the bin
[04:14] <me2win> when he did those 2 commands you put up earlier, the second one wasn't found. then he tried loading the folder again and it said "loading storage media folder .. error: the ked mediamanager is not running"
[04:15] <mendred> ok...
[04:15] <mendred> ask him to open a terminal
[04:16] <mendred> and run kded
[04:16] <mendred> or wait
[04:16] <mendred> DAEMON_OPTS=--retain-privileges
[04:16] <mendred> uncomment this line
[04:16] <mendred> in /etc/default/hal
[04:16] <mendred> or add it if it is not there
[04:17] <me2win> alright
[04:17] <mendred> do that and logout an login into kde
[04:17] <mendred> ignore the kded command
[04:20] <mendred> i am sorry do the dbus restart as well before restarting kde...
[04:20] <mendred> my mistake..
[04:20] <me2win> aight
[04:21] <miakehl> Does Dapper have a release date yet?
[04:21] <me2win> yes
[04:21] <mendred> me2win: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79204.html
[04:22] <mendred> i think this link deals with what he is facing
[04:22] <miakehl> When exactly?
[04:22] <me2win> June 1st, 2006
[04:22] <miakehl> Nice
[04:23] <me2win> mendred, changing DAEMON_OPTS it seems did the trick
[04:24] <mendred> cool
[04:24] <mendred> its not safe
[04:24] <mendred> but till he upgrades to dapper it will have to do i guess
[04:24] <mendred> it runs hal with root privileges
[04:25] <mendred> but for fixed devices no other go i guess
[04:26] <me2win> mendred, will doing sudo adduser hal disk work?
[04:26] <mendred> i dont understand
[04:26] <mendred> whats that for?
[04:27] <mendred> i think
[04:27] <mendred> oh got it
[04:27] <me2win> heh
[04:27] <Arcanimus> night
[04:27] <mendred> i guess it should...
[04:31] <mendred> yes it does :)
[04:31] <me2win> yep heh
[04:31] <me2win> he said it works
[04:31] <me2win> just as you did
[04:31] <me2win> lol
[04:31] <mendred> heh
[04:31] <mendred> sorry long day
[04:31] <me2win> heh no prob
[04:31] <mendred> my brain isn't working all that fast :)
[04:31] <me2win> heh
[04:36] <_networker> Is there a non-interactive uploader that works like wget? (but backwards)
[04:36] <_networker> oh wait
[04:36] <_networker> ftp
[04:36] <_networker> nm
[04:51] <me2win> !fglrx
[04:51] <ubotu> hmm... fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:24] <_networker> yeah that doesn't reem sit
[05:25] <_networker> er, seem right
[05:29] <_networker> you guys rock, and i'm not being facetious
[06:13] <jehnx> I'm using amaroK, but it seems like I don't have very many decoders installed.  Is there a way to install a whole lot of sound decoders at once?
[06:14] <robotgeek> jehnx: breezy/dapper?
[06:14] <robotgeek> jehnx, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:14] <jehnx> 5.10
[06:14] <robotgeek> jehnx: okay, the link should be useful then :)
[06:14] <jehnx> robotgeek: Is it because kubuntu recognizes the copyrights, etc.?
[06:15] <jehnx> and the licenses for redistributions?
[06:15] <robotgeek> !free
[06:15] <ubotu> I heard free is Free as in free software = free as in freedom. For more info visit:http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
[06:15] <robotgeek> sorry
[06:16] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell jehnx about freeformats
[06:16] <robotgeek> jehnx: those are mostly preinstalled in kubuntu, the rest need work
[06:16] <jehnx> Thanks mate.  :)
[06:24] <unperson> My system is capable of running at 1600 x 1200 screen resolution, but I prefer 1280 x 1024.  How do I set it so that kdm comes up at 1280 x 1024 and the default setting for KDE and GNOME for all users is 1280 x 1024 (until they change it themselves)?
[06:26] <me2win> unperson, switch the resolution under display options
[06:26] <unperson> me2win: That seems to only change it for the current user.
[06:26] <nalioth> !xcfg
[06:26] <ubotu> xcfg is, like, totally, to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:26] <nalioth> unperson: ^^^^^
[06:28] <unperson> nalioth: You mean by disabling 1600 x 1200 all together.
[06:28] <robotgeek> unperson: but you said "you prefer" :)
[06:29] <robotgeek> so, i don't quite follow what your intentions are
[06:29] <nalioth> unperson: it is your box. you may do as you wish. i have only one resolution available on my box, cuz i'm the only that uses it
[06:29] <unperson> ...because I thought that's all that you can do in the configuration you're talking about.
[06:29] <nalioth> unperson: no, you may have as many rez' as you like when you run that command
[06:30] <unperson> robotgeek: I prefer, yes.  I use the box the most, so I'd like that to be the default and what kdm runs in.  I'd like to maintain the ability for other users to change it.
[06:30] <unperson> nalioth: Right, you can have as many resolutions as you like, but doesn't it make the largest one the default?
[06:31] <nalioth> unperson: i have no clue
[06:31] <nalioth> from all the complaints i see in here, it makes the one you don't like the default  :)
[06:31] <robotgeek> lol
[06:33] <unperson> Well, so, I read xorg.conf, and then I tried going into the Display subsection of the Screen section of xorg.conf and rearanging the modes so that "1280 x 1024" comes first, but "1600 x 1200" still appears later in the list.
[06:34] <unperson> I thought that would work, and it sort of does.
[06:34] <unperson> The screen display is 1280 x 1024 then, but both kdm and other users desktops are still a 1600 x 1200 virtual desktop!
[06:34] <unperson> I didn't expect that.
[08:12] <thoreauputic> wow, #kubuntu is really rocking - complete silence for over an hour... :/
[08:13] <robotgeek> BANG thoreauputic
[08:13] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:13] <thoreauputic> you missed!
[08:13] <thoreauputic> howare you robotgeek ? How goes easyUbuntu?
[08:14] <_mindspin> good morning everybody
[08:14] <thoreauputic> Thu Mar 23 18:14:18 EST 2006
[08:14] <thoreauputic> heh
[08:14] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[08:14] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: currently reading the pygtk tutorial and then pyqt tutorial
[08:14] <thoreauputic> good evening...
[08:15] <_mindspin> 8:14 CET here
[08:15] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: ah, work in progress... hope it gets lots of publicity .
[08:15] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: so much work and so little time
[08:15] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: as always, yeah
[08:17] <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: yes, that's not uncommon
[08:17] <Hobbsee> and at other times, it's nuts
[08:18] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: yes, I have been in here when it's busy - congrats BTW
[08:18] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:18] <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: oh?  on?
[08:18] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: a bit late I know
[08:18] <Hobbsee> oh, membership?
[08:18] <Hobbsee> thanks :)
[08:18] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: yes
[08:18] <nalioth> congrats?
[08:18] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: and ops etc
[08:18] <nalioth> Hobbsee: did you do something else?
[08:19] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: you were opped right?
[08:19] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: ops. where have you been :)
[08:19] <Hobbsee> nalioth: not that i know of, appart from making this darned network work
[08:19] <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: on #kubuntu and #kubuntu-offtopic, and #ubuntu+1, yes.  #ubuntu was something i recently asked for and got
[08:19] <nalioth> Hobbsee: well, congrats!
[08:19] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: I have been drawing and painting ;P
[08:19] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: ah - good on you!
[08:19] <Hobbsee> nalioth: thankyou.  this network doesnt work like it's supposed to - you're supposed to be able to connect to open networks without a problem i thougth lol!
[08:19] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: you can have #ubuntu, it gets too tense for me
[08:19] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: another Aussie, right?
[08:19] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:20] <Hobbsee> thoreauputic: indeed, sydney
[08:20] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: Wollongong here :)
[08:20] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: I'm the provincial uncultured guy from the sticks ;-)
[08:21] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: well often seveas beats me, but oh well
[08:21] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: seveas beats everyone :)
[08:21] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: it's all that opscript i tell ya :)
[08:22] <nalioth> robotgeek: seveas doesn't use our opscript, he's written his own
[08:22] <robotgeek> nalioth: hmm, for xchat?
[08:22] <Hobbsee> ugh.  dont know what happened there
[08:22] <nalioth> robotgeek: yes, xchat
[08:24] <thoreauputic> Hobbsee: wb ;)
[08:24] <Hobbsee> having trouble here, it seems
[08:25] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:25] <Hobbsee> it's not my ISP
[08:26] <heinkel_111> good morning :)
[08:26] <heinkel_111> i have a fresh newbie problem for y'all: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=4199.0
[08:27] <heinkel_111> please reply in forums...i am leaving for work
[08:28] <Hobbsee> grrr...
[08:29] <heinkel_111|work> grr what?
[08:33] <Hobbsee> heinkel_111|work: just my connection going up and down - it keeps losing the essid, and IP address...
[08:35] <heinkel_111|work> yea...that is grrr
[08:35] <heinkel_111|work> *gone*
[08:45] <jasonX> hi, where I can find documentation about (re)building Kubuntu dapper drake installer?
[08:45] <jasonX> I did a search in google, but couldn't find anything
[08:47] <frank23> jasonX: #ubuntu+1  is the dapper channel. maybe ask there?
[08:47] <jasonX> ok, thank you
[09:04] <MadSekkai> How do I change what program a file opens when clicked? Like .pl wants to load CrossOver... I want to change that.
[09:05] <frank23> MadSekkai: right click, properties, icon besides type
[09:06] <MadSekkai> *duh*
[09:41] <simian> morning all
[09:42] <PokerFacePenguin> has anyone here met with success installing vmware tools on breezy?
[09:44] <simian> i don't understand xgl, does it mean tht i won't have to install nvidia drivers?
[09:45] <simian> !xgl
[09:45] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[10:12] <Creperum> Flight 5 out - what is it?
[10:28] <brunft> hi @ all
[10:28] <brunft> need some help according mp3's
[10:29] <Tm_T> !mp3
[10:29] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[10:29] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:29] <Tm_T> !dapper
[10:29] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[10:29] <Tm_T> Creperum: Flight 5 is fifhte devel release of Dapper
[10:30] <Creperum> ok
[10:30] <brunft> i had no problem to get mp3's working in kde
[10:30] <brunft> but the id3 tags are not read from my samba share
[10:31] <brunft> its a permanently mounted samba share (on another ubuntu system btw)
[10:31] <brunft> the id3 tags are read fine from local mp3's
[10:32] <brunft> are there any mount options i have to take into account to get this workin?
[10:34] <brunft> anyone reading me? =)
[10:40] <Tm_T> brunft: sounds weird problem
[10:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !multiverse
[10:46] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !multiverse
[10:59] <brunft> did i state my problem clearly?
[11:02] <brunft> It's a fact that the files on the mounted samba share are handled different from files locally
[11:02] <brunft> Konqueror shows me no meta info
[11:03] <brunft> Do i may have to use NFS for this purpose?
[11:03] <_mindspin> did you try it ?
[11:03] <_mindspin> or fish maybe?
[11:03] <_mindspin> just to check wther its smb related
[11:04] <brunft> But Windows XP reads the tags from the same share
[11:04] <brunft> fish?
[11:04] <_mindspin> you can log on over konqueror using fish
[11:05] <_mindspin> not log on
[11:05] <_mindspin> access files
[11:06] <_mindspin> do fish//username@remote_machine/path/to/file
[11:07] <_mindspin> in konqueror
[11:07] <brunft> yea just tried it, there's also no meta info :(
[11:07] <_mindspin> so it does not look like it's smb related
[11:07] <brunft> yup
[11:07] <_mindspin> did you check filepermissions?
[11:08] <_mindspin> how/on which OS were the files created?
[11:08] <brunft> should be fine since i can play the file
[11:09] <brunft> mostly Windows, but the server is running Ubuntu
[11:09] <_mindspin> try this, create a mp3 file under ubuntu and have alook if the id3 tags are shown for this file
[11:10] <_mindspin> just to find out wether it's related to the OS under which the id3 tags are created
[11:11] <brunft> ill try that, thanks, have to work into, since i've never done this before
[11:47] <brunft> _mindspin: i found out, that the meta info is not available if the samba share is read only
[11:47] <brunft> it is on all writeable shares
[11:47] <_mindspin> fine
[11:47] <_mindspin> very fine
[11:47] <brunft> yo :)
[11:48] <_mindspin> I'll keep it in mind if anyone comes up with the same question
[11:48] <brunft> but i don't want it to be writable ... will try some more things
[11:48] <brunft> thanks for your help anyway
[11:48] <_mindspin> yw
[11:50] <CT|Hyourinmaru> any know how i can make an mp3 cd using gnomebaker or k3d?
[11:52] <CT|Hyourinmaru> any1?
[11:55] <CT|Hyourinmaru> o.o
[11:57] <CT|Hyourinmaru> anyone at all...
[11:57] <CT|Hyourinmaru> dont be shy
[11:58] <tijn> just make an data cd, and drag the mp3's
[11:58] <CT|Hyourinmaru> but will that run on a cd player
[12:08] <Rayman> I thought k3b had audio-cd support
[12:08] <Rayman> if not, use serpentine
[12:09] <CT|Hyourinmaru> Rayman, it does...but that turns mp3's into wav files. I just want a mp3 cd
[12:10] <Rayman> CT|Hyourinmaru: then it's a dataCD
[12:10] <CT|Hyourinmaru> Rayman, if its a DataCD, will it play on a mp3 cd player?
[12:10] <Rayman> if the player supports mp3s, then yes
[12:11] <CT|Hyourinmaru> alright...ill give it a shot
[12:18] <CT|Hyourinmaru> Rayman, that is a negative
[12:18] <CT|Hyourinmaru> Rayman, checked both my mp3 cd player...and my dvd player
[12:25] <_martin> Hi. I'm trying to get a serial mouse working in kubuntu breezy - changed xorg.conf device to /dev/ttys0, now X / kdm are not starting, I just get a console. What can I try?
[12:28] <_martin> should I ask on #kde or somewhere else instead?
[12:31] <Ilokaaaasu> well if u just want your kde back to working u can use the backup u made from xorg.conf OR reconfigure it
[12:31] <Ilokaaaasu> if u want your mouse to work, then someone else can maby help :)
[12:45] <Henk> How do i get my alt-tab to work across desktops ? currently switching is only possible among applications on the current desktop
[12:52] <uniq> henk: system settings -> Desktop -> Window behaviour -> Focus tab -> Under Navigation check the 'Traverse windows on all desktops'.
[12:55] <Henk> uniq, thnx
[12:57] <Fukurou> Salut tout le monde
[12:57] <Fukurou> (encore un dbutant qui vient vous casser les... :D)
[12:58] <Fukurou> J'viens d'installer Kubuntu et je suis paum : comment on a accs  ses autres DD/partititions ?
[12:58] <Fukurou> (j'ai jamais t que sous XP donc a dstabilise)
[12:59] <Fukurou> j'ai bien vu une sorte de navigateur, mais il reconnait que la partition o est installe Kubuntu
[01:01] <uniq> fukurou: englsh?
[01:01] <uniq> english?
[01:01] <bimberi> !mountwindows
[01:01] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:01] <Fukurou> yes...Well no but i can speak it
[01:02] <Fukurou> K i'll try this thx
[01:02] <bimberi> Fukurou: yw :)
[01:04] <Fukurou> So i save this file in "/" ?
[01:05] <Fukurou> (sorry for the stupid questions lol...)
[01:05] <Fukurou> (anyone should start from nothing i suppose)
[01:07] <Fukurou> It's ok i did it, thanx
[01:08] <_administrator> hello all
[01:09] <bimberi> Fukurou: just looked back here now - glad you sorted it out
[01:09] <_administrator> i am novice in kubuntu community
[01:09] <_administrator> can u help me with configure it ?
[01:21] <Fukurou> I just dl XMMS, and when i want to install it, it asks me "open with...?"...rpm are like the exe files on XP, nope ?
[01:22] <Skrot> no
[01:22] <Skrot> RPM is a package system for redhat and other systems
[01:22] <Skrot> kubuntu uses .deb's
[01:22] <Fukurou> huh...ok
[01:23] <Skrot> And if you want xmms, you probably just need "sudo apt-get install xmms" from konsole :)
[01:24] <Fukurou> and it gets the appz automatically ? nice..let's try
[01:24] <Skrot> Fukurou: But kubuntu comes with a more sophisticated, iTunes-like media player called amaroK
[01:24] <Fukurou> amarok read mp3's ?
[01:24] <Skrot> Indeed :)
[01:28] <ccc_> _administrator: you better ask specific questions instead.
[01:30] <_administrator> ok
[01:30] <Fukurou> great, no sound...weird cause i had system sounds already...i'll try XMMS maybe
[01:31] <_administrator> i try to install licq, and recieve this message
[01:31] <_administrator> root@administrator:/home/administrator/Desktop# apt-get install licq-1.3.0-1.fc2.i386.rpm
[01:31] <_administrator> Reading package lists... Done
[01:31] <_administrator> Building dependency tree... Done
[01:31] <_administrator> E: Couldn't find package licq-1.3.0-1.fc2.i386.rpm
[01:31] <tijn> ermh
[01:32] <_administrator> what is this ?
[01:32] <Skrot> _administrator: apt-get install a RPM package??
[01:32] <_administrator> yes
[01:32] <bimberi> _administrator: kubuntu uses .deb format, rpm is redhat/fedora
[01:33] <Skrot> _administrator: Try apt-get install licq insted ;)
[01:34] <_administrator> no results
[01:34] <_administrator> where i can download .deb format of ports  or packages?
[01:34] <ccc_> _administrator: you probably need to enable the universe repository
[01:35] <ccc_> _administrator: from apt preferably :)
[01:35] <tijn> no way dude
[01:35] <tijn> ow wait
[01:35] <tijn> wrong line ;)
[01:35] <_administrator> sorry, where it is in system?
[01:36] <ccc_> _administrator: via the command line (apt-get) or via adept (in your system menu)
[01:36] <ccc_> _administrator: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:36] <ccc_> and enable universe
[01:36] <kujeger_work> how the do I tell kdevelop to compile my project with libsdl-image? I've looked all over and I can't seem to find anywhere to add libs :/
[01:40] <_cnf> hi
[01:41] <_cnf> hello
[01:41] <_administrator> i cant find licq in adept :(
[01:41] <ccc_> _administrator: did you follow the guide i pasted to enable universe?
[01:41] <kujeger_work> as ccc_ said, you have to add the universe repositories
[01:42] <booms> whats this program and who am i chatting with????
[01:44] <ccc_> booms: this is the kubuntu help channel on irc. :)
[01:44] <ccc_> oops i am slow
[01:46] <_administrator> i havent synaptic package manager in my kubuntu!
[01:46] <ccc_> _administrator: read at the end, the kubuntu chapter
[01:56] <_administrator> i read and do it all
[01:56] <_administrator> what else ?
[01:57] <chouette> Is it possible to make Xmms the only player ?...well i mean the one who will automatically read an audio file when i click on it ?
[01:57] <Fukurou> (yeah cause finally amarok isnt very nice lol...it won't read mp3 files :/)
[01:59] <apokryphos> Fukurou: xmms really sucks
[01:59] <Fukurou> i dont think so...looks like winamp
[01:59] <apokryphos> Fukurou: for getting amarok to work with mp3s simply (i) install amarok-xine
[02:00] <Fukurou> so it's a good point, since i used winamp on XP
[02:00] <Fukurou> ah
[02:00] <_casey> Fukurou: try out amarok or ryhtmbox
[02:00] <apokryphos> Fukurou: that's what people always say
[02:00] <Fukurou> i'll try this anyway, thx
[02:00] <apokryphos> and personally I think it's the worst dang reason to still use a player :)
[02:00] <ccc_> _administrator: when you have enabled universe, click apply, close the repository manager and click fetch updates. then search for what you want.
[02:00] <apokryphos> winamp sucks compared to amaroK
[02:00] <apokryphos> (or JuK)
[02:00] <Fukurou> why's that ?
[02:00] <_casey> for sure
[02:00] <Fukurou> Honestly, winamp has all a player can have
[02:00] <_casey> because amarok > itunes
[02:00] <ccc_> amarok is the best music player ever, for any os :)
[02:01] <_administrator> i do all that u say
[02:01] <apokryphos> Fukurou: it really doesn't; amaroK is far better put together, has infinitely more features by default etc etc
[02:01] <_administrator> but i cant find licq yet
[02:01] <_casey> but only pitfall is its poor memory management
[02:01] <_casey> _administrator: why not try gaim?
[02:02] <ccc_> or kopete rather
[02:02] <_casey> or gaim
[02:02] <_casey> lol
[02:02] <ccc_> :D
[02:02] <Fukurou> simple question, is there a way to go directy on the desktop, when u have like 10 windows open ?
[02:02] <_casey> kopete while good is still not a great as gaim for a msg client
[02:03] <Fukurou> like the shortcut in XP
[02:03] <_casey> Fukurou: you can put a button on your panel
[02:03] <_casey> that will do that
[02:03] <apokryphos> Fukurou: use the "show desktop" button
[02:03] <Fukurou> well yes but wich one is it ?
[02:03] <ccc_> _casey: i would say it is. a lot better than gaim even. but that's a matter of taste i guess.
[02:03] <apokryphos> Fukurou: what version of kde are you running?
[02:03] <Fukurou> good question lol...the basic one in kubuntu
[02:03] <ccc_> _administrator: something must have gone wrong with the steps you did.
[02:03] <Fukurou> i didnt change anything
[02:04] <_casey> ccc_: ive used both but i dont see how
[02:04] <apokryphos> kopete is the superior client, really. Gaim lacks a few vital features, like webcam management
[02:04] <_casey> apokryphos: webcam lol
[02:04] <ccc_> _casey: same here, and i will never use gaim again :)
[02:04] <apokryphos> it also doesn't have that kde integration ;-)
[02:04] <_casey> apokryphos: i wont be flashing anyone any time soon
[02:04] <ccc_> agreed apokryphos
[02:04] <apokryphos> it's the ugliness of gaim that really gets to me, though.
[02:04] <_casey> apokryphos: i only use kde at work
[02:05] <_casey> other than that im more on the gnome side of window managment
[02:06] <apokryphos> how come?
[02:06] <_casey> because it compiles faster and runs better on my machine at home running gentoo
[02:06] <ccc_> Fukurou: you can right click on the panel > Add applet > Show desktop
[02:07] <apokryphos> Fukurou: it won't be that pattern if he's on kde 3.4
[02:07] <apokryphos> add something (forget what it says) -> special button -> show desktop
[02:07] <apokryphos> * ccc_
[02:07] <Fukurou> thanx, i found it :D
[02:07] <ccc_> apokryphos: ah ok
[02:07] <_casey> why is that button not enabled by default in kubuntu i wonder
[02:08] <Fukurou> btw, what's with the 4 desktops ? i dont see the interest..
[02:09] <Fukurou> but i suppose i can set only one, let's try..
[02:09] <apokryphos> Fukurou: it's quite good for management of different areas. Some find them vital, some don't like using them
[02:09] <_casey> fukurou it so u can edit images in one play a game in another make a website in another
[02:09] <_casey> without all the cluter
[02:09] <apokryphos> I suggest giving them a go -- works out nicely. On one I compile things, another for messenger + browsing, another with mail and IRC etc
[02:10] <_casey> yeah they are very handy
[02:10] <_casey> you have hot keys for them as well
[02:10] <_casey> ctrl+f1-4
[02:10] <apokryphos> (or ctrl+tab to cycle through)
[02:10] <Fukurou> yeah, it's maybe more..."clear" than having a lot of windows on the same desktop
[02:10] <apokryphos> precisely
[02:11] <Fukurou> i'll give it a chance to see :)
[02:11] <Fukurou> nice btw, all these settings we can do on the size of the bar, position, and style from the start
[02:12] <Fukurou> I think i'll enjoy Kubuntu :)...brw what's the difference bbetween KDE and Gnome ?
[02:12] <Fukurou> only a difference of style ?
[02:12] <_casey> yeah
[02:12] <_casey> they use a bit different technologies and have a different look and feel
[02:12] <apokryphos> well, not really -- but for the basic beginning end-user it would be that
[02:12] <_casey> all in all they manage windows
[02:13] <apokryphos> window managers manage  windows; desktop environments are "a little more"
[02:13] <_casey> apokryphos: ok so you get icons as well
[02:14] <apokryphos> Fukurou: KDE uses C++ with Qt (the Q-toolkit) generally, and GNOME uses C with GTK+
[02:14] <_casey> thats what i was saying about different technologies
[02:14] <apokryphos> Fukurou: common criticisms of KDE are that it's more "bloated" and has too many options, criticisms of GNOME are its lack of options and applications
[02:14] <_casey> QT and GTK
[02:14] <Fukurou> Well, KDE feels great already, so i think i wont move for now ^^
[02:15] <Fukurou> it's not too complicated, clear...
[02:15] <Fukurou> and yeah it seems to have all useful options i can need
[02:15] <apokryphos> Fukurou: pros of each: KDE has tighter integration, GNOME is a little more simplistic
[02:15] <_casey> but faster
[02:15] <apokryphos> Fukurou: personally, I love (and cannot live without) the customizability and extensability of KDE
[02:15] <Fukurou> btw what was the command to install automatically an appz ? apt-get "name" ?
[02:16] <apokryphos> personally I wouldn't trust any comments on speed acceleration between the two
[02:16] <apokryphos> both parties claim theirs to be faster
[02:16] <_casey> apokryphos: the load time for gnome is considerably faster on my machine than with kde
[02:16] <apokryphos> Fukurou: yes, but you might prefer getting to grips with Adept (the Kubuntu Package Manager) first
[02:16] <apokryphos> _casey: and?
[02:16] <_casey> and im running a 4400+ dual core 2 gigs of ram and asus a8n sli premium
[02:16] <apokryphos> ...and?
[02:16] <_casey> im just saying
[02:16] <Fukurou> yeah cause i tried apt-get kopete and...nothing lol
[02:16] <_casey> that gnome does load faster
[02:17] <apokryphos> Fukurou: it's apt-get install
[02:17] <apokryphos> _casey: startup load is hardly important to me in any way
[02:17] <apokryphos> ...considering I log out once every 6 days or so.
[02:17] <_casey> session load is much faster
[02:17] <Fukurou> ah yeah,n only thing that disapointed me till now : the boot is really slow...
[02:17] <apokryphos> I'm sorry I disagree
[02:17] <Fukurou> On XP, it's like 20 sec, and here, 40 +
[02:17] <Fukurou> :/
[02:17] <apokryphos> Fukurou: yup, GNU/Linux itself suffers from that.
[02:18] <Fukurou> So all Linux OS are like this when it comes to the boot ?
[02:18] <_casey> Fukurou: gentoo though infintily harder to install than ubuntu has probably the fastest load
[02:18] <apokryphos> Fukurou: yes, but not all the same boot time exactly.
[02:18] <Fukurou> Yeah i can imagine but i meant, slower than XP
[02:18] <Fukurou> (on the boot)
[02:18] <apokryphos> yes
[02:18] <Fukurou> too bad...but if this is the price of freedom, it suits me
[02:18] <Fukurou> hehe
[02:19] <mornfall> boot times... who boots machines?
[02:19] <apokryphos> I find GNU/Linux in general much faster than XP in general, once it's up
[02:19] <apokryphos> better memory management
[02:19] <mornfall> workstations run 24/7, notebook hibernates
[02:19] <Fukurou> lol yes morn, i dont very often, but it's still something
[02:19] <_casey> on a light enough gentoo install and not loading anything in run lvl 3 it might compete with XP
[02:19] <mornfall> :-)
[02:19] <ccc_> on the other hand, there' no need to reboot a linux box :)
[02:19] <_casey> on boot up
[02:19] <mornfall> _casey: it doesn't matter what distro -- you can cut down anything
[02:19] <apokryphos> Fukurou: you should never need to reboot Linux unless you're installing a new kernel.
[02:20] <_casey> mornall yes but thats not by the default installation with ubuntu
[02:20] <apokryphos> that's really the only time you *need* to
[02:20] <Fukurou> about Konqueror - i imagine it's a matter of taste but still-, is it better for you than my beloved Firefox ?
[02:20] <mornfall> hmm, last reboot 12 days back, i guess i moved the machine to a different outlet :)
[02:20] <Fukurou> Looks as faster for now
[02:20] <_casey> Fukurou: by no means
[02:20] <mornfall> _casey: how is it default in gentoo? :-)
[02:21] <_casey> mornfall: gentoo install disk is 68 mgs
[02:21] <apokryphos> Fukurou: I prefer Konqueror -- more pacey; KHTML is better :P
[02:21] <mornfall> _casey: *my* default debian-anything is debootstrap
[02:21] <mornfall> _casey: ubuntu included
[02:21] <mornfall> _casey: so your point is moot here
[02:21] <cycus_zwisus> will there be debs with kde 3.5.2 for breezy?
[02:21] <mornfall> the base system is roughly same size and same services
[02:21] <cycus_zwisus> or just for dapper?
[02:21] <apokryphos> cycus_zwisus: probably for breezy too
[02:22] <_casey> mornfall: w/e im not going to argue you with about this but gentoo on boot and pretty much any package is faster and i will leave it at that from my end
[02:22] <mornfall> paid in hours of compile time, yes :)
[02:22] <_casey> mornfall: and?
[02:22] <mornfall> to each his own
[02:22] <cycus_zwisus> there are already packages for dapper, breezy folder is empty (that is contains only source packages)
[02:23] <mornfall> _casey: and the tradeoff is absolutely unnacceptable for me
[02:23] <_casey> mornfall: the compile time is somthing i dont mind it only took me 5 hours to compile kde which is about 7 less than my other systems
[02:23] <mornfall> _casey: like 15 minutes for download and install here :)
[02:24] <_casey> so compiling any thing smaller than that barely consumes any time for me
[02:24] <_casey> and its a slower package with support for more stuff than you need or without support for stuff that you want
[02:24] <mornfall> like?
[02:24] <_casey> i perfer compiling for customization thats all
[02:25] <apokryphos> gentoo's compiling is near-enough unbearable for me
[02:25] <mornfall> if i ever compile something, it's to have -O0 -g build of it
[02:25] <apokryphos> I need speed :)
[02:25] <apokryphos> don't have time to sit around twiddling my thumbs waiting to try out the latest
[02:25] <_casey> apokryphos: you will get alot more speed from the binarys once they are compilied against your processor and the packages your want it to run with
[02:26] <apokryphos> that's a really bad presupposition
[02:26] <apokryphos> and it's a fundamental presumption of many gentoo-ers -- it's quite flawed.
[02:26] <_casey> and not half the features it supports and for generic hardware
[02:26] <mornfall> _casey: unfortunately lot more is measured in single-digit percent
[02:26] <_casey> mornfall: i notice a difference in every aspect of my gentoo install and this ubuntu install
[02:26] <mornfall> _casey: especially since my cpu mostly runs on 800MHz and does not feel the need to speed up while i do normal work
[02:26] <_casey> ive used them both for a long time
[02:27] <_casey> i can play any game i want burn a cd and compile any package with out noticing any sort of performance difference
[02:28] <apokryphos> that's more down to your specification than your distribution
[02:28] <mornfall> it's called psychological effect _casey :-) i changed font settings and was fairly sure it is better, yet, under xmag it is pixel-to-pixel same
[02:28] <_casey> ive seen it down alot lesser of a machine
[02:28] <madacf> ok
[02:29] <mornfall> _casey: maybe you should someday conjure hard numbers and not impressions
[02:29] <_casey> mornfall: w/e gentoo out of the box is much faster and lets me pick and choose everything i want, portage is much greater package manager than for any other system which btw has binary for every package that takes along time to compile
[02:30] <_casey> incase you dont want to compile them
[02:30] <mornfall> noone is taking away your religion, _casey
[02:30] <_casey> im just saying that ubuntu while great for beginners and the office can not match gentoo
[02:34] <reto> quite in here ...
[02:34] <reto> s/te/et/
[02:35] <reto> trying to find out abou removing bluetooth pairing
[02:36] <reto> the link_key file, the kde manager
[02:38] <reto> my bluetooth headset was working somehow in breezy, no all I get is "authentication failed"
[02:53] <ubuntu> hello could somone help me with the expresso installer?
[02:56] <ubuntu> nevermind I got it
[02:56] <ubuntu> my root partition was mounted
[03:48] <PokerFacePenguin> anyone have any idea what would cause the kmix volume control to go crazy?  it stays up and wont go away http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10683
[04:08] <otacon2> !dapper
[04:08] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[04:15] <_chouette> Someone can help me ? I can't install Firefox...i dled a .tar, and i don't know how to...?
[04:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> Chousuke: download it from apt-, unless you need to use 1.5
[04:16] <RogueJediX> _chouette: Type "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[04:16] <_chouette> it's ok, i used the package manager finally :)
[04:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[04:17] <RogueJediX> Glad to hear it
[04:17] <_chouette> ok so just to know, even if package manager works great, "sudo apt-get install name" is the only command to install something  ?
[04:18] <RogueJediX> _chouette: Yeah, but if you find the package manager easier to use, then by all means use it. That's what it's for.
[04:18] <_chouette> But i wonder, it won't work with each and every app on the net, it's just a limited number of appz ?
[04:19] <_chouette> i mean theer's not any app on the package manager
[04:19] <_chouette> would be to easy
[04:19] <_chouette> :p
[04:19] <RogueJediX> Indeed
[04:19] <_chouette> so the point : when i cant find one in the PM, how do i proceed ?
[04:19] <RogueJediX> Well, you could download the source of an app that's not in the repositories and compile it
[04:19] <Dasnipa`> to install apps that arent on the repository you need to get the compiler stuffs and then you just use make or scons
[04:20] <Dasnipa`> or checkinstall
[04:20] <_chouette> woot this is getting complicated...i'll try one to see
[04:20] <RogueJediX> Dasnipa`: You mean one could use scons instead of make on any app source code?
[04:21] <Dasnipa`> no
[04:21] <Dasnipa`> they would have to have a sconsfile... just a different implementation of makefile
[04:22] <RogueJediX> Ah, thanks. I must've misinterpreted your last statement
[04:22] <_chouette> example here for vlc player : http://www.videolan.org/vlc : what should i chose ?
[04:23] <RogueJediX> Kaffeine, because it's already installed? :P
[04:23] <RogueJediX> Just kidding
[04:24] <Dasnipa`> i think the difference is makefile you need a seperate script file to check dependencies and create makefile where scons does that all inside the sconsfile
[04:24] <RogueJediX> _chouette: VLC is already in the repositories, but if you REALLY want to compile it, get the Source Code
[04:25] <RogueJediX> Dasnipa`: Ah, I see. I've seen a lot of projects use scons or jam lately
[04:25] <_chouette> I dont even know what compile is...*shame*
[04:27] <RogueJediX> _chouette: I think you're better off sticking with adept, but if you really want more apps check out http://autopackage.org/packages/
[04:28] <Dasnipa`> compile is how you take the source code and make it into something that you can execute
[04:28] <_chouette> hm ok...
[04:29] <_chouette> wich video player you use btw ?
[04:29] <_chouette> (i should stop thinking WIndows and try new appz)
[04:30] <_chouette> And (yeah, so much annoying questions :p) is there a need to install codec packs or something ? or is there a player who reads most of the video files by itself ?
[04:32] <honesty> is anyone familiar with the stump window manager
[04:32] <honesty> stumpwm
[04:38] <_intel> casey this is Huston we have a problem: I have an iso of mythtv which I mounted using isomount-0.9. I then notice in the file structure it includes a folder for isolinux boot.. How do I jump start this puppy into installing? I can't CD to the location becasue it has "()" in the folder name?
[04:40] <_intel> itt is mounted in: /home/intel/Desktop/Mount-ISO (KnoppMythR5B7.iso)
[04:42] <_intel> aaaaaaaaaalso I notice that unlike other linux distro I can't seem to find the file structure for other HDs attached to this kubuntu system
[04:42] <jtshaw> _intel: What exactly are you looking for?
[04:43] <_intel> I want to install the above mentioned software
[04:43] <jtshaw> _intel: Ah.. my bad.. missed your first message
[04:43] <_intel> but I don't know how to make it exicute
[04:44] <_intel> if I was working in Windows I would be using a virtual Cd and would have mounted the iso there
[04:44] <_intel> then a simple matter of double clicking the icon of the virtual cd and it would have started the install
[04:47] <madacf> toto su Kosice?
[04:48] <_intel> jtshaw: have you got any ideas?
[04:49] <jtshaw> _intel: You have already mounted the thing and just can't figure out where?
[04:49] <_intel> I know where, I just can't get console to go there
[04:50] <_intel> I can see it wiht the browser
[04:50] <_intel> but console refuses to go there becasue of the ()s
[04:50] <jtshaw> _intel: put you can see it in ls?
[04:51] <_intel> yes
[04:51] <jtshaw> _intel: cd "/home/intel/Desktop/Mount-ISO (KnoppMythR5B7.iso)"
[04:51] <_intel> ah add ""
[04:51] <_intel> thanks
[04:51] <jtshaw> np
[04:52] <jtshaw> though it somewhat offends me that it would put a ( in a dir name...... oh well
[04:53] <_intel> bash doesn't like that
[04:53] <_intel> it still refuses to go
[04:53] <_intel> perhaps there is a wiki that discusses how to mount and iso and run it?
[04:54] <jtshaw> _intel: mount -o loop <isofile> <dir to mount to>
[04:54] <jtshaw> _intel: but you have to be root.. so put sudo in front of that
[04:55] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[04:56] <rysiek|pl> anybody knows a bit about gtkrc-2.0 and setting some widget's colours in it? got a problem getting it to work
[05:00] <_intel> jtshaw: it seems to accept that mount cmd, now how to I launch it?
[05:01] <jtshaw> your going to have to cd to whatever directory you mounted it to and run whatever program on there you want to run
[05:01] <jtshaw> ./<programname>
[05:02] <honesty> If I installed a package with adept where would it be installed.
[05:05] <Dark_Neko> Someone know how i can get the avifile-win32-plugin ? sudo apt-get doesnt work..
[05:06] <tristanmike> !tell Dark_Neko about restricted
[05:07] <tristanmike> honesty, it would be installed in the same method as if you used Synaptic, so usually the excueteble is in either /usr/bin  or   usr/local/bin
[05:08] <Icedude1985> I have a problem: I can't login graphicaly anymore in my Kubuntu. Can anyone help me?
[05:09] <Dark_Neko> !freeformats
[05:09] <ubotu> There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[05:10] <honesty> Icedude: when did this start happening
[05:11] <Icedude1985> this morning, with my second login. I installed it saturday but didn't know how to install my serial mouse. Now I found it and wanted to login again to install the mouse.
[05:12] <Dark_Neko> Ok, free formats then...but how do i install Theora ?
[05:12] <Dark_Neko> sudo apt-get...and..?
[05:12] <honesty> ok you get a login non-graphical login prompt when you boot up correct
[05:13] <Icedude1985> yes, and I enter my login and then it asks my password and I enter it too
[05:13] <tristanmike> !tell Dark_Neko about restricted
[05:14] <Dark_Neko> lol yes...i understood this, but i still cant get how to install the free formats like Theora ?
[05:14] <Dark_Neko> i mean is it command like sudo etc...?
[05:15] <honesty> Icedude; now type startx and a lot of stuff should print to the screen in there toward the bottom should be an error message that can help you fix your config file. If not we can reconfigure from scratch with a simple command.
[05:16] <visik7> anyone here have installed lisa ?
[05:16] <Icedude1985> that command, is that "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?
[05:17] <Dark_Neko> ok now i'm lost...why is this so complicated for a simple thing..-_-
[05:19] <honesty> Ice: did you try that already? Can you let me see your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[05:20] <tristanmike> Dark_Neko, "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-theora
[05:20] <tristanmike> Dark_Neko, without the first quote there
[05:20] <Icedude1985> no, I didn't try that. I'm now on my XP system but I will reboot and try it if you think that could fix the problem
[05:23] <Dark_Neko> i installed it but it still doesnt work to read videos...that means i should convert all my usual video files in another format ?
[05:24] <tristanmike> Dark_Neko, sudo apt-get install libtheora0    maybe
[05:25] <tristanmike> Dark_Neko, what program are you using ?
[05:25] <Dark_Neko> to read the videos ?
[05:25] <Dark_Neko> Kaffeine
[05:26] <tristanmike> Dark_Neko, try mPlayer or VLC
[05:27] <honesty> Icedude can I ask you a question real quick. What IRC client do you use for XP
[05:27] <Icedude1978> I use mIRC
[05:27] <Dark_Neko> ok, thanx, just a quesiton : how do you know exactly wich name to type after sudo apt-get install when u want to dl, for example, VLC ?
[05:28] <Dark_Neko> You have to go on VLC website, check the name of the file and type this ?
[05:28] <klugez> Dark_Neko: apt-cache search is a great help
[05:28] <klugez> you could also use synaptic or adept, which are graphical
[05:29] <madacf> sevas yahoo
[05:29] <honesty> Icedude I have to get back to working on this SVG stuff for I get myself in trouble sorry I couldn't help more
[05:30] <Icedude1978> ok, I'll try that "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" command
[05:30] <tristanmike> Dark_Neko, you can do "apt-cache search <keyword>" and see what comes up
[05:30] <Icedude1978> thx anyway
[05:30] <Dark_Neko> yes but here, adept doesnt find VLC..
[05:30] <apokryphos> Dark_Neko: you'll have to enable the universe repository
[05:30] <apokryphos> !info vlc
[05:30] <Dark_Neko> So i was wonderinfg, when adept doesnt find, how do i know wich name to type with aptget ?
[05:31] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[05:31] <Dark_Neko> k
[05:31] <apokryphos> Dark_Neko: /msg ubotu repositories
[05:34] <Crashoveride> Hello all, I want to know how to install mySQL ? Anyone know
[05:34] <Crashoveride> ?
[05:35] <tristanmike> !mysql
[05:35] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:35] <Crashoveride> thanks
[05:35] <madacf> very simple prob
[05:37] <seaLne> has anyone tried to use an ldap addressbook in kaddressbook using SSL with a selfsigned certificate?  even tho konq trust the issuer kaddressbook is refusing
[05:51] <_mindspin> there is a ubuntu-marketing mailing list, does such alist exist for kubuntu too ?
[05:54] <larsivi> I have installed Dapper Flight 5 on a machine with a Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse (one receiver)
[05:54] <larsivi> The keyboard works, the mouse don't, but the kernel correctly discovers both of them
[05:56] <CT|Hyourinmaru> I have a problem where whenever I try to extract a rar archive of an iso...Ark will pull up ALL the rar files...each and every one of them...is there anyway to make it not do that?
[05:57] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: what do you mean?
[05:59] <CT|Hyourinmaru> aporkryphos: ill click on 1 rar, like i read from the ubuntu forums, and tell it to extract to the name of file folder...then...it will open ark again and again...for every rar file in the folder
[05:59] <CT|Hyourinmaru> its a compressed and separated iso file in multiple rar files
[05:59] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: right-click -> extract here (on one file)
[06:00] <_mindspin> apokryphos:  there is a ubuntu-marketing mailing list, does such alist exist for kubuntu too ?
[06:00] <apokryphos> _mindspin: no
[06:00] <_mindspin> ok
[06:02] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: yeah...i did that before...but it extracts wrong
[06:02] <chouette> I just reboot and suddendly...no more hard drives are recognize...
[06:02] <CT|Hyourinmaru> it says the file size is 4 mbs
[06:02] <chouette> if someone can help...
[06:02] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: do you have unrar-nonfree installed?
[06:02] <CT|Hyourinmaru> i...dunno
[06:02] <CT|Hyourinmaru> i shall check now
[06:03] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: I do have that
[06:04] <Fukurou> I think i'll just return to XP and use free appz...this is getting to much complicated :/
[06:04] <CT|Hyourinmaru> Fukurou: Linux is a "learning OS"
[06:05] <Fukurou> ...and it learns how to make my hard drives disappear.
[06:05] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: from the command line do: unrar x one-of-the-rar-archives.rar
[06:05] <CT|Hyourinmaru> alright
[06:05] <CT|Hyourinmaru> do i need root?
[06:05] <Fukurou> lol no seriously, what's this...i didnt ask anything or install anything and then...
[06:05] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: nope
[06:05] <_mindspin> Fukurou: how can you log in without harddrives?
[06:05] <Fukurou> good question
[06:06] <RogueJediX> Fukurou: Hence the "learning" part
[06:06] <Fukurou> but the point is when i chek, there's nothing
[06:06] <_mindspin> how do you check?
[06:06] <Fukurou> it's in french i dont know the name..."supports de stockage"
[06:06] <Fukurou> when i click there is all the hard drive normally, see ?
[06:06] <Fukurou> under the house icon
[06:06] <CT|Hyourinmaru> Fukurou: In french?
[06:06] <_mindspin> no
[06:06] <Fukurou> yes
[06:07] <Fukurou> (i am)
[06:07] <CT|Hyourinmaru> ahh
[06:07] <_mindspin> under the house icon is your homefolder
[06:07] <Fukurou> just to tell i cant translate this i dont know the word, but still, there was my hard drive in here, and now there not
[06:07] <Fukurou> yes
[06:08] <ccc_> Fukurou: your home folder is not where your hard drives are mounted normally.
[06:08] <_mindspin> you installed french version?
[06:08] <Fukurou> ok it's not home folder then..
[06:08] <Fukurou> i am french mindspin lol
[06:08] <Fukurou> taht's why i cant explain everything very well sorry
[06:08] <_mindspin> anyone in k#kubuntu-fr?
[06:08] <Fukurou> not that much lol...
[06:08] <_mindspin> !f
[06:08] <ubotu> _mindspin: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:09] <Fukurou> i'll try to reboot just to see
[06:09] <_mindspin> !fr
[06:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:09] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: it says no files to extract...do i need to cd to the file?
[06:09] <_mindspin> reboot n'est pas necessaire
[06:09] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: cd to the directory that they're in, yes.
[06:09] <Fukurou> ok...
[06:09] <_mindspin> but my french is very basic
[06:09] <Fukurou> as much is my english i suppose...
[06:10] <_mindspin> est-ce qu il ya personne a #kubuntu-fr?
[06:10] <Fukurou> no the point is just, there is a lot of persons here, so more chance to have and advice...
[06:10] <Fukurou> In #fr, i dont have any answer so..
[06:11] <_mindspin> but it would be easyer if we could communicate
[06:11] <Fukurou> you're my last hope lol
[06:11] <_mindspin> what files do you want to access?
[06:12] <_mindspin> those on your windows partition?
[06:12] <Fukurou> Yes...and another one in NTFS
[06:12] <_mindspin> ok
[06:12] <Fukurou> it worked before
[06:12] <_mindspin> !ntfs
[06:12] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:12] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: that appears to be working...do i always have to do it from console now?
[06:12] <_mindspin> vous avez lisez cette link?
[06:13] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: you shouldn't have to -- ark in theory uses that very command :/
[06:13] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: actually, remove unrar-free if you have it installed
[06:13] <Fukurou> yes, but i installed diskmounter sooner, and it worked, taht's whats annoying
[06:13] <Fukurou> to mount automatically
[06:13] <Fukurou> and now everything dissapear :/
[06:14] <_mindspin> que est-ce le nom de point de mount a ton systeme?
[06:14] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: alright, but before I had that installed...it would not let me extract =/
[06:14] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: hm, ok, one sec.
[06:14] <_mindspin> va en /media ou /mnt/media
[06:14] <Fukurou> ok
[06:15] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: ok, try removing it, and then enter these commands
[06:15] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: cd /usr/bin && sudo ln -s unrar unrar-free
[06:15] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: and lemme know if Ark lets you extract now
[06:15] <Fukurou> there's just a floppy drive in /media
[06:16] <_mindspin> and in /mnt
[06:16] <Fukurou> nothing
[06:16] <Fukurou> (in /mnt)
[06:16] <nico8481> hi
[06:17] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: uhh...how would i go about that uninstall again? >.<
[06:17] <Fukurou> my head is starting to hurt lol...that's weird it disappear just like this
[06:17] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: fire up adept, and from there :)
[06:17] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: thank ya
[06:17] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: k-menu -> system -> package manager (adept)
[06:17] <_mindspin> ouvriez le console type ls -a copy the output and paste it in pastebin
[06:17] <_mindspin> !paste
[06:17] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:18] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: lol, oh i know of adept
[06:18] <apokryphos> :)
[06:18] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: we like brothers
[06:18] <_mindspin> any advanced french speakers here?
[06:19] <RogueJediX> Non.
[06:19] <_mindspin> beside Fukurou
[06:19] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: oh, that might be why
[06:19] <mornfall> someone talking about adept? ;-)
[06:19] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: I have unrar-free and nonfree installed
[06:19] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: should i remove both?
[06:19] <Fukurou> chouette@lns-bzn-54-82-251-103-206:~$ ls -a
[06:19] <spiritz> Does any one if the DAAP:/ ioslave and the Public File Server have been fixed in kde 3.5.2?
[06:20] <Fukurou> .                                         .dmrc           .openoffice.org2
[06:20] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: yup, remove free. Check if Ark works. If it doesn't, we can try something else.
[06:20] <Fukurou> ..                                        .gconf          print.pdf
[06:20] <Fukurou> .bash_history                             .gconfd         print.ps
[06:20] <spiritz> anyone know
[06:20] <Fukurou> .bash_profile                             .gstreamer-0.8  .qt
[06:20] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: alright
[06:20] <zerovertex> anyone tried Tapioca?
[06:20] <zerovertex> not the pudding.. the VoIP client for Linux...
[06:20] <_mindspin> Fukuro dont paste here
[06:20] <apokryphos> !paste
[06:20] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[06:20] <_mindspin> paste in pastebin
[06:20] <_mindspin> !paste
[06:21] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: do i still need to do  cd /usr/bin && sudo ln -s unrar unrar-free?
[06:21] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: first check to see if Ark works
[06:22] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: mmkay
[06:24] <yanis> hi
[06:25] <DeeJay1> hello
[06:25] <yanis> is it easy to update to kde 3.5.1?
[06:25] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: yeah it works now
[06:25] <apokryphos> cool :)
[06:25] <apokryphos> yanis: very easy
[06:25] <apokryphos> !kde 3.5.1
[06:25] <ubotu> [kde 3.5.1]  at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-351.php
[06:25] <yanis> let me check it
[06:26] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: oh...and for iso images, should i leave it on default? ( i think its on TAO right now)
[06:26] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: what default?
[06:26] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: in GnomeBaker
[06:26] <apokryphos> don't use that! :P
[06:26] <apokryphos> k3b!
[06:27] <CT|Hyourinmaru> bleh...k3b gave me a stroke
[06:27] <apokryphos> why/what happened?
[06:27] <CT|Hyourinmaru> it kept configging itself every startup and crashing the comp
[06:27] <CT|Hyourinmaru> >.<
[06:28] <apokryphos> configging?
[06:28] <apokryphos> it should work just fine, and makes it very easy to burn ISOs
[06:28] <CT|Hyourinmaru> the 1st time u start up k3b, it asked me to config the burning drives...even though they should of done that itself
[06:29] <pradeepto> Riddell: hey
[06:29] <CT|Hyourinmaru> DeeJay1: Eww....just ewww...
[06:29] <CT|Hyourinmaru> DeeJay1: the object is to get Kubuntu from the get go
[06:29] <CT|Hyourinmaru> ^^
[06:29] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: if you already have ubuntu-breezy though it's better to update to dapper first 8)
[06:29] <DeeJay1> CT|Hyourinmaru, the iso of flight 5 I've downloaded breaks at about 30% when writing, weird :/
[06:29] <zerovertex> I'm getting this error when running Tapioca... can someone give me a bit of advice? ** (tapiocaui:8845): WARNING **: failed to open connection to dbus
[06:30] <yanis> when I run apt-get update, apt halts at 99% saying prompting 'waiting for headers'
[06:30] <CT|Hyourinmaru> DeeJay1: quite weird
[06:30] <yanis> Get:16 http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/multiverse Sources [1025B]
[06:30] <yanis> 99% [Waiting for headers]
[06:30] <yanis> like that
[06:31] <yanis> so is it a problem with the rep servers?
[06:32] <DeeJay1> CT|Hyourinmaru: yes it is :/ it even didn't work on Windows, hmm, or maybe I just got some messed up set of CD-R's :/
[06:33] <CT|Hyourinmaru> DeeJay1: burning speed?
[06:34] <apokryphos> yanis: might be worth waiting for a minute or so, then re-running it
[06:34] <DeeJay1> CT|Hyourinmaru: maybe, but it didn't say anything about buffer underruns, just some wicked SCSI (sic!) message
[06:36] <CT|Hyourinmaru> DeeJay1: Sometimes computer dont like it when u burn fast =/
[06:36] <CT|Hyourinmaru> DeeJay1: Try burning at 1x speed
[06:37] <DeeJay1> CT|Hyourinmaru: it'll be faster to upgrade :)
[06:37] <CT|Hyourinmaru> lol true
[06:39] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: how do i set the burn speed in k3b?
[06:40] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: you set it when you click to burn
[06:40] <apokryphos> default is "auto"
[06:40] <CT|Hyourinmaru> gotcha
[06:41] <CT|Hyourinmaru> should i put writing mode to TAO?
[06:41] <CT|Hyourinmaru> or auto
[06:41] <apokryphos> auto
[06:41] <CT|Hyourinmaru> alrighty
[06:42] <Riddell> pradeepto: hi
[06:42] <pradeepto> Riddell: hey there
[06:42] <pradeepto> Riddell: Came back from the FOSS event today.
[06:43] <pradeepto> Riddell: Kubuntu, Koffice 1.5 beta 2 all ROCKED!
[06:43] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: bah...ur k3b failed me
[06:43] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: giving me errors
[06:43] <apokryphos> CT|Hyourinmaru: what error?
[06:43] <CT|Hyourinmaru> apokryphos: cant burn properly....drive not accepting brun speed
[06:44] <CT|Hyourinmaru> blah blah blah
[06:44] <CT|Hyourinmaru> =,=
[06:48] <Riddell> pradeepto: yay :)
[06:48] <Riddell> pradeepto: which event was that?
[06:49] <nico_be> any idea how to get amaroK to read mp3? I found a lot of HOWTOs on the web but none of them seem to provide instructions that actually work... :-/
[06:49] <pradeepto> Riddell: It was nice FOSS event in a college called NITC (National Institute Of Calicut)
[06:49] <ccc_> !mp3
[06:49] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:49] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[06:50] <pradeepto> NITC (National Institute Of Technology , Calicut)
[06:52] <Riddell> pradeepto: many KDE people there?
[06:53] <pradeepto> Riddell: are you asking kde users or kde guys per se like you , Aaron etc?
[06:55] <Riddell> pradeepto: kde-in guys, like you :)
[06:55] <nico_be> installing gstreamer0.8-mad and akode-mpeg does not solve anything :(
[06:55] <pradeepto> Riddell: Only I was there.
[06:56] <pradeepto> Riddell: but I bumped into a Gentoo dude who is a KDE guy , so a KDE - In guy :)
[06:56] <nico_be> actually xmms can play mp3's but amaroK can't
[06:56] <Rayman> nico_be: dapper?
[06:56] <nico_be> 5.10
[06:57] <Rayman> I never had issues with breezy :s
[06:57] <pradeepto> nico_be: mp3s work for me for sure.
[06:58] <nico_be> ah... :-/
[06:58] <yanis> I hope KDM theming capabilities will be improved soon
[06:58] <pradeepto> nico_be: I gave a presentation on Saturday, as I played Aerosmith song, the cover, the lyrics and wikipedia  all got downloaded.
[06:59] <ccc_> nico_be: which engine are you running in amarok?
[06:59] <ccc_> i can recommend xine
[06:59] <nico_be> ccc i installed both
[06:59] <pradeepto> nico_be: and I run breezy with kde 3.5.1 :) and amarok 1.3.8
[06:59] <nico_be> didn't work with -xine so a apt-got -gstreamer too
[06:59] <nico_be> "... so i ..."
[06:59] <Centurion_[Roger> Hey people! I need your advise. Why do you think KDM may not start on startup? When then I log on in the console and call "kdm" it starts...
[07:00] <ccc_> nico_be: chose the engine you want to use in the settings
[07:00] <yanis> how can I change the sound card that that KDE uses?
[07:03] <nico_be> ccc_: wow cool it works now :) thanks
[07:03] <ccc_> great :)
[07:04] <nico_be> there's still an issue with the tracks info however (for some reasons it shows me chinese characters instead of the artist/tracks etc.) but at least it works :-)
[07:09] <Riddell> pradeepto: do you have a blog?
[07:09] <pradeepto> Riddell: nope
[07:09] <pradeepto> Riddell: and somehow I have been asked this question quite a lot in recent times.
[07:10] <ccc_> nico_be: there's always #amarok :)
[07:10] <Riddell> :)
[07:11] <ccc_> pradeepto: better get one then :)
[07:12] <pradeepto> ccc_: nice idea but I will fall short of content or something :P
[07:12] <Tonio_> hello
[07:14] <DeeJay1> blah, I must get Scribus 1.3.3cvs up and running also, eh, another 2 hours of work grrr
[07:18] <DeeJay1> remember - don't mess with your distribution when you must attend a OpenSource/CreativeCommons event in the next few days, especially when you ought to hold a workshop there...
[07:21] <nico_be> ccc_: right now i'm using xmms :o)
[07:21] <nico_be> ccc_: but thanks :)
[07:25] <ccc_> xmms? my condolences ;)
[07:27] <eduardo> Does anybody here knows how to make the sound device use more than one program in the same time?
[07:28] <eduardo> I'm having lots of trouble here in Kubutu coz of that
[07:29] <kedaeus> Wooooord.. Hey people :P
[07:30] <nico_be> hehe
[07:31] <mhterres> hi guys
[07:31] <mhterres> anybody here from Kubuntu team ?
[07:32] <Blippe> eduardo, you seem to have problems with your software mixer!
[07:32] <rey|kubuntu> Hello... first visit for me, and a rather brief one; just tried out that distribution. You got one happy debian user here :)
[07:32] <kedaeus> :P
[07:33] <Blippe> dammit, i have to check if people are still on the channel before trying to start a conversation!
[07:33] <kedaeus> Rofl.
[07:33] <jjesse> rey|kubuntu: nice to hear that :)
[07:33] <kedaeus> Ya.. welcome.
[07:34] <kedaeus> I can't wait until my Kubuntu desktop is done installing..
[07:34] <kedaeus> I'm not a real big fan of gnome..
[07:34] <kedaeus> :P
[07:35] <rey|kubuntu> Neither am I, but for the first time I've seen a Gnome setup which "looked good".  I've never been able to integrate with Gnome for somereason.. at least it all looks the same from the CLI :)
[07:37] <kedaeus> Using a 450mhz processor seems to add to the frustration :)
[07:37] <rey|kubuntu> Hmm, but then again I dare to say KDE is more cpu&ressource-hungry than Gnome.
[07:38] <DeeJay1> or a wicked motherboard which makes a 600MHz Celeron run slower than a 166MHz Pentium MMX :/
[07:38] <RogueJediX> Speaking of resource consumption, which light-weight window manager integrates best with KDE apps?
[07:38] <DeeJay1> rey|kubuntu: hmm, IMHO KDE 3.5.1 is more responsive than GNOME 2.12
[07:38] <RogueJediX> Just out of curiosity
[07:39] <rey|kubuntu> I don't think it matters, as the kde base needs to be loaded whenever you run a kde app anyway.
[07:39] <rey|kubuntu> So you'll always have the same resource usage when the kde subsystem is loaded.
[07:39] <rey|kubuntu> Or rather, the same "extra resource usage"
[07:40] <RogueJediX> I see. I did not know that
[07:40] <kedaeus> Grrr..  Blah! I always end up doing things the long way :(
[07:42] <RogueJediX> I like simutrans better
[07:42] <DeeJay1> not LOL but it's a good tool to promote OS, on every event we have up to 70 contestants
[07:42] <jjesse> through shipit they should
[07:43] <jjesse> i know riddell has been talkign about getting shipit.ubuntu.com to ship Kubuntu for dapper
[07:43] <nico_be> i only play unreal tournament on my ubuntu :)
[07:43] <mhterres> I read that they'll send DVDs in future that have kubuntu
[07:43] <rey|kubuntu> kedaeus: Don't be frustrated. You don't want to know how many megabytes I installed before I got mp3 support for gstreamer.
[07:43] <mhterres> I hope that in the next version  :-)
[07:44] <rey|kubuntu> One package would have been enough.
[07:44] <jjesse> !mp3
[07:44] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:44] <Glin|Jol> Winamp  5.20 Stopped
[07:44] <jjesse> kedaeus: try that wiki page for mp3 support
[07:44] <kedaeus> rey|kubuntu: Lol..  Don't need it. I have my media center sitting right next to me :)
[07:45] <rey|kubuntu> Needles to say I'm more of a server & console person, and not used to having Linux as a Desktop.
[07:45] <DeeJay1> jjesse: that would be great, we're running low on Ubuntu CD's here, I recently ordered about 300 of them and they will be all gone this weekend...
[07:45] <RogueJediX> Like I read somewhere: "In a perfect world, people would use oggs"
[07:45] <rey|kubuntu> But Ubuntu is surprosingly convenient for that.
[07:45] <mhterres> jjesse: are you from Ubuntu team ?
[07:45] <jjesse> DeeJay1: send riddell an email i know i got a bunch of breezy kubuntu cds
[07:45] <jjesse> mhterres: i help out with the kubuntu-devel group and the doc team
[07:46] <jjesse> DeeJay1: as he had a couple of boxes
[07:46] <mhterres> hmmm, and riddell ?
[07:46] <jjesse> riddell = Jonathan Riddell, the dude in charge of kubuntu
[07:46] <jtshaw> RogueJediX: I perfer "In a perfect world, people would use FLAC":)
[07:46] <mhterres> hmmm, ok :-)
[07:46] <jjesse> Riddell: ping, DeeJay1 is wondering if you have any kubuntu cds left
[07:47] <nico_be> RogueJediX: in a perfect world, portable players would read ogg *and* be recognized as removable media under linux without needing any software :-)
[07:48] <kedaeus> I think the most I've ever done is on a unix box in a server environment is tail Genesys logs to map call flows. This is a new thing for me..
[07:48] <DeeJay1> jjesse: the next event is in May but it's much smaller, maybe we will find some more CD's
[07:48] <mhterres> jjesse: how can we order Kubuntu CDs ?
[07:50] <RogueJediX> jtshaw: Okay, busted :P
[07:50] <Riddell> DeeJay1: unfortunatly I've sent off my last Kubuntu CDs
[07:50] <RogueJediX> nico_be: Which one is that?
[07:50] <nico_be> RogueJediX: which one of what?
[07:51] <RogueJediX> nico_be: Which portable player do you use?
[07:51] <mhterres> Riddell: the shipit.ubuntu.com will send Kubuntu CDs or DVDs in next release ?
[07:51] <jjesse> mhterres:
[07:51] <jjesse> d'oh sorry yeah shipit will send kubuntu in the next release
[07:51] <nico_be> RogueJediX: none at the moment
[07:51] <jjesse> but Riddell might have some left?
[07:51] <mhterres> It'll cost too much to send for Brazil
[07:52] <nico_be> RogueJediX: i'd like to buy one but whether they don't read Ogg or they need a special software to transfer files from the computer
[07:52] <DeeJay1> Riddell: no problem, but I hope we can get some in July, we will be back at an OpenAir festival here in Poland ( http://www.wosp.org.pl/en/przystanek/2005/ ), with about 300 000 people there you can find many new users :)
[07:52] <RogueJediX> nico_be: Aren't portable players supposed to simply act as removable disks anyway?
[07:52] <nico_be> RogueJediX: those who do generally don't support Ogg :-)
[07:53] <mhterres> jjesse: they'll send in a DVD or I have to choose between Ubuntu or Kubuntu CDs ?
[07:53] <mhterres> do u know ?
[07:53] <crazyjo3> hi
[07:53] <nico_be> RogueJediX: the "disk-based" players (like ipod) usually need software
[07:53] <RogueJediX> Ick.
[07:53] <nico_be> and rarely support Ogg...
[07:53] <crazyjo3> how can i make a trash shortcut on the desktop like it is on a "normal" kde installation ?
[07:53] <crazyjo3> i don't want that applet in the kicker panel
[07:55] <RogueJediX> nico_be: I've heard people rant over Cowon's iAudio X5 player
[08:01] <yanis_> hmmm
[08:01] <yanis_> I am having problem upgrading to 3.5.x
[08:01] <mez_> I remember during installation I was asked if my hardware clock should be gmt or local. I selected gmt. I want to change that setting (So my hardware clock will be local, for dual booting). How can I change that?
[08:04] <yanis_> kdm:
[08:04] <yanis_>   Depends: kdelibs4c2 (>=4:3.4.3-1) but 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu2 is to be installed
[08:04] <yanis_>   Depends: kdebase-bin (=4:3.5.1-0ubuntu0breezy1) but 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu6 is to be installed
[08:04] <yanis_> I get this:
[08:04] <yanis_> *that
[08:04] <iegary> mez_: edit /etc/default/rcS - the details are saved there.
[08:06] <mez_> Great, thanks.
[08:07] <Debiruman> Hiho
[08:08] <Debiruman> Someone can help me please ? I wanted to uninstall Kubuntu, so i suppress its partition from XP with partition magic...but when i wanted to boot, it asked me for Grub or something
[08:09] <Debiruman> And i couldnt boot again, i was forced to reinstall Kubuntu
[08:10] <Debiruman> Join #kubuntufr
[08:11] <jtshaw> Debiruman: You need to run an fdisk /mbr or something like that... grub is looking for it's stage 1.5 and stage 2 files and you deleted them....
[08:11] <Debiruman> So i can't "uninstall" Grub from Kubuntu ?
[08:12] <jtshaw> you have to clear your master boot record, because the first stage of the bootloader is still there.
[08:12] <sorush21> guys I can't install the konqueror extensions from the repository
[08:13] <sorush21> Debiruman: why do you wnat to remove grub?
[08:13] <Debiruman> because i want to remoke Kubuntu...and with XP only, the system doesnt boot anymore
[08:14] <Debiruman> it says somthng like Grub error 22
[08:14] <Debiruman> And i can't boot on XP
[08:14] <DeeJay1> Debiruman: get a boot floppy and fdisk /mbr
[08:14] <jjesse> the mbr is probablly fubared
[08:14] <rey|kubuntu> Debiruman: Boot from the XP install cd, recovery console, and do a "fixmbr"
[08:14] <seppl> lalelu
[08:14] <sorush21> Debiruman: don't panick with a little asking around you can fix this.. I've been there.. its not that hard..
[08:14] <sorush21> !grub
[08:14] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:15] <Debiruman> ...and if i doesnt have the XP CD anymore...?
[08:15] <honesty> I've done the same thing too lol
[08:15] <Debiruman> (thx sorush :))
[08:15] <DeeJay1> Debiruman: then your XP isn't legal, go call BSA :)
[08:15] <sorush21> Debiruman: look at the above links and see it that will help..
[08:15] <seppl> win98 boot-floppy, fdisk /mbr
[08:15] <rey|kubuntu> Debiruman: Boot from a dos bood disk, fdisk /mbr, or burn yourself a www.ultimatebootcd.com. That one is a must have anyway ;)
[08:15] <seppl> bootdisk.com
[08:16] <rey|kubuntu> *boot
[08:16] <sorush21> Debiruman: is your windows partitions in curropted?
[08:16] <sorush21> Debiruman: is your ubuntu installation corrupted
[08:17] <sorush21> if they are both fine then you can get grub to boot both of them..
[08:17] <honesty> except if you use a wireless keyboard of course
[08:18] <sorush21> Debiruman: error 22 is this  No such partitionThis error is returned if a partition is requested in the device part of a device- or full file name which isn't on the selected disk.
[08:19] <sorush21> would any one agree with me that Debiruman needs to find the partitions first?
[08:19] <sorush21> I would use test disk that would find your partitions ..
[08:19] <sorush21> Debiruman:  testdisk is in the repositories
[08:19] <rey|kubuntu> If he removed the Ubuntu Partitions, it's obvious that Grub panics.
[08:20] <Debiruman> well clearly : I have 3 partitions : 1 for XP, 1 for Ubuntu, and 1 for datas...none is corrupted i think
[08:20] <DeeJay1> brb, reboot to dapper :)
[08:21] <sorush21> Debiruman: I would recommend you just going to go to channels like #linux and #ubuntu-offtopic #debian #ubuntu there might be people that can help you there too..
[08:22] <sorush21> Debiruman: try running testdisk
[08:22] <sorush21> Debiruman: are you in kubuntu now?
[08:22] <Debiruman> yes
[08:22] <Debiruman> i try testdisk wait
[08:23] <live> people
[08:23] <Debiruman> how does the repository works please ? i cant find testdisk (sorry noob)
[08:24] <live> i need urgen help. i have two kubuntu systems on the same hdd and when i try to start my first one i get a VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[08:25] <sorush21> Debiruman: don't worry .. you can do it manually or use
[08:25] <sorush21> !source-o-matic
[08:25] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:25] <sorush21> create the source list that you need and just have fun..
[08:26] <admrl> why would someone make a program for adding sources to sources.list
[08:27] <sorush21> admrl: for noobs
[08:28] <admrl> they have kate
[08:28] <sorush21> admrl: troditional windows user don't even know the plain text and parsing philosophy of unix etc..
[08:28] <admrl> all you need to do is copy and paste
[08:29] <sorush21> source-o-matic explains it better and its easier to select the source.. and the source are approved by other users.. etc..
[08:39] <pradeepto> Riddell: still around?
[08:41] <Riddell> pradeepto: hi
[08:42] <pradeepto> http://www.flickr.com/photos/t3rmin4t0r/115305191/in/set-72057594087098881/
[08:42] <pradeepto> Riddell: ^^^
[08:52] <Riddell> pradeepto: your photo?
[08:52] <pradeepto> Riddell: well thats my head
[08:52] <Riddell> :)
[08:52] <pradeepto> Riddell: http://www.flickr.com/photos/t3rmin4t0r/115305478/in/set-72057594087098881/
[08:53] <pradeepto> http://www.flickr.com/photos/t3rmin4t0r/115305348/in/set-72057594087098881/
[08:53] <pradeepto> Riddell: http://www.flickr.com/photos/t3rmin4t0r/115304493/in/set-72057594087098881/
[08:53] <pradeepto> me ^^^
[08:53] <Riddell> ah hah :)
[08:56] <epinephrine> I have universe and multiverse enabled, but can't install flashplayer-mozilla, doesn't seem to exist. any idea what I have done wrong?
[08:58] <Riddell> pradeepto: what langauges do you think we should prioritise on the CDs?
[08:59] <pradeepto> Riddell: Well the point is not much has been done Indic l10n for KDE.
[08:59] <pradeepto> But the top languages are ->
[08:59] <pradeepto> Riddell: #1 Tamil, #2 Hindi #3Bengali #Punjabi
[09:00] <pradeepto> #4 Punjabi
[09:00] <JohnFlux> are there indian channels on freenode?
[09:00] <JohnFlux> maybe you could advertise and try and get help?
[09:00] <Riddell> this is in terms of % translated?
[09:00] <pradeepto> Riddell: yes exactly
[09:01] <pradeepto> JohnFlux: there are and we are working on it (slow though).
[09:01] <Riddell> pradeepto: currently we seem to have bengali on the CD, but I wonder if Hindi would be a better choice in terms of combination of people speaking and % translated
[09:02] <pradeepto> Riddell: the indic fonts are already there for sure. Its even there in Breezy.
[09:02] <pradeepto> Riddell: I think the package is called ttf-indic-fonts.
[09:03] <_robert_> #munich
[09:03] <pradeepto> Riddell: Dont remove Bengali (its one of the most spoken languages in the world thanks to few states in India and the country Bangaldesh)/
[09:04] <pradeepto> Riddell: And Hindi and Tamil (India,SriLanka,Malasia etc) are spoken more that one countries too.
[09:05] <Riddell> speakers world wide is one thing, free software using speakers would be more interesting to know
[09:05] <Riddell> but a lot more difficult to find out
[09:06] <pradeepto> JohnFlux: Riddell a Gujarati team is working on in_GU l10n and there is some work going on Telegu l10n too.
[09:06] <pradeepto> Riddell: good point but these people are from the countries only who have done a quite a lot of work on l10n.
[09:08] <pradeepto> Riddell: I strongly suggest that you should not leave out Hindi,Tamil,Bengali if possible.
[09:08] <heinkel_111|work> is kubuntuforums down?
[09:08] <Riddell> currently the list is  es bn hi ar xh pt ru ja  then  de fr
[09:09] <pradeepto> Riddell: cool that pretty much takes care of 2 out 4 that I asked for.
[09:09] <heinkel_111> can someone check if kubuntuforums is down please?
[09:11] <pradeepto> Riddell: If you could sneak in Tamil, you might appeal to a lot of people South India, Sri Lanka (thriving FOSS community there) and not to mention Far east countries like Malaysia etc
[09:11] <Snake[School] > heinkel_111: works here
[09:11] <pradeepto> Tamil is official language in many/all of these countries.
[09:11] <Snake[School] > (kubuntuforums.net right?
[09:12] <JRGC> How can i configure the IP address, default gateway and DNS from the console on kubuntu? Where are the config files?
[09:12] <JohnFlux> pradeepto: what's Gujarati?
[09:12] <heinkel_111> Snake[School] : yes
[09:12] <heinkel_111> i can't get anything up on my screen :(
[09:12] <pradeepto> JohnFlux: An Indian language
[09:12] <Snake[School] > heinkel_111: they seem to be up here
[09:13] <heinkel_111> yupp! now it loaded
[09:13] <heinkel_111> thanks Snake[School]
[09:13] <pradeepto> JohnFlux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gujarati_language
[09:13] <pradeepto> JohnFlux: GU is one of the official languages in India.
[09:13] <Snake[School] > np
[09:16] <Snake__> Riddell: While your around, why do we keep refering to the next version after drake as "Dapper +1" ??
[09:16] <Riddell> Snake__: because it doesn't have a name yet, so we just call it current + 1
[09:16] <Riddell> the one after that we call dapper+2
[09:16] <Snake__> Riddell: ahh gotcha, I was wondering if we were getting a new naming system or something
[09:17] <Snake__> Riddell: gotcha
[09:17] <Riddell> nah, all the releases have been something+1 until they got a real name
[09:17] <Snake__> Riddell: oh, ive only been around since breezy :-/
[09:17] <pradeepto> Riddell: this prioritising thing? Is that for dapper since it has been delayed? Or for dapper+1?
[09:18] <Snake__> pradeepto: dappper has been bumped to june 1st
[09:18] <klugez> Snake__: duck
[09:19] <Riddell> Snake__: dragon
[09:19] <klugez> there was some discussino whether it's a dragon or a duck
[09:19] <Snake__> >.<
[09:19] <Snake__> Ducks and dragons are 2 very diffrent things
[09:19] <klugez> i know :)
[09:19] <Riddell> pradeepto: it's how it has always been done
[09:19] <Snake__> I love dragons
[09:19] <Riddell> pradeepto: see the seeds (KubuntuFiles on the wiki)
[09:19] <klugez> i think dragon is much more cool
[09:20] <Snake__> klugez: I collect those statues they make of them, I got a ton of em. I <3 dragons so much
[09:20] <Snake__> lol
[09:20] <klugez> Snake__: and you still didn't know drake means dragon? :)
[09:20] <Snake__> klugez: nope, what language?
[09:21] <klugez> it's english, i suppose
[09:21] <klugez> i'm not native though
[09:21] <Snake__> Hmm
[09:21] <Snake__> klugez: I am, ive never herd that term
[09:21] <Snake__> :)
[09:21] <klugez> ok, i have :P
[09:21] <klugez> i have bumped into it in some fantasy books
[09:22] <Snake__> hmm
[09:22] <klugez> (in english)
[09:22] <pradeepto> Riddell: Can you tell me which Indic l10n packages will be there in dapper?
[09:22] <pradeepto> Hmmm ok the list you gave had hi and bn right?
[09:23] <pradeepto> So will other languages be added before final release?
[09:23] <Riddell> pradeepto: yes, before release we fill the CDs up to capacity with language packs
[09:24] <pradeepto> hmmm
[09:24] <pradeepto> btw will there be more beta releases?
[09:24] <Snake__> pradeepto: one more on april 20th is what I herd
[09:25] <pradeepto> Oh noes .... 2 days later and you guys would have hit my bday :)
[09:25] <pradeepto> hmm so this time it will be called 6.06 is it? or 6.04?
[09:26] <crimsun> the former
[09:56] <H0ly_F00l> hallo
[09:57] <H0ly_F00l> need help with ubuntu
[09:57] <fek_> H0ly_F00l: go buy some drugs and feel happy...
[09:57] <H0ly_F00l> ok
[09:57] <rey|kubuntu> Why not just ask the question instead?
[09:58] <H0ly_F00l> jes i was writing it
[09:58] <H0ly_F00l> i think u need the drugs to come down
[09:59] <H0ly_F00l> i want to change the user settings... i enter the "root" pass but than , unable to connect to su
[09:59] <H0ly_F00l> i know my english is poor
[09:59] <H0ly_F00l> and im a linux noob
[10:00] <rey|kubuntu> Try running "su" from a command line. If it doesn't work, you might have removed the binary :)
[10:00] <H0ly_F00l> i havent removed anything
[10:00] <H0ly_F00l> and how do i run it from the command line?
[10:01] <heinkel_111> Hello everyone
[10:02] <heinkel_111> is it a usual problem that you are not able to find packages when you try to use 'sudo apt-get intall' commands?
[10:02] <JakubS> try sudo bash
[10:02] <heinkel_111> what will that do? start up a root shell?
[10:02] <JakubS> yup
[10:03] <JakubS> 'su' does not really work in (k)ubuntu
[10:03] <heinkel_111> ? why?
[10:03] <JakubS> no root account
[10:03] <heinkel_111> anyway then 'apt get install etc'?
[10:04] <JakubS> oh, it was advice to H0ly_F00l, not you :-)
[10:04] <H0ly_F00l> oh thx
[10:04] <H0ly_F00l> it worked but after i changed froom user ++++ to root it broke...
[10:05] <heinkel_111> JakubS: at least i was able to start a root shell :P
[10:05] <rey|kubuntu> You can do a  sudo passwd root   if you insist on having a root account.
[10:06] <H0ly_F00l> thx ill shure be back ^^ bye
[10:07] <jtshaw> I know the ubuntu way isn't to use the root account... but it certainly appears to still be there
[10:08] <bkjones> it is still there.
[10:09] <bkjones> it doesn't have a password though.
[10:09] <jtshaw> at any rate... is there some specific reason that it wouldn't accept a username with a _ in it in the installer?
[10:09] <bkjones> yeah, because that's illegal as per (iirc) the POSIX standard.
[10:10] <bkjones> er, I think
[10:11] <bkjones> jtshaw: I'm wrong. Ignore me.
[10:11] <jtshaw> no big deal
[10:11] <bkjones> I was thinking DNS names for some reason. :(
[10:11] <bkjones> sounds like a small bug in the installer.
[10:11] <jtshaw> ok, I'll file it
[10:12] <jtshaw> !bug
[10:12] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[10:12] <zerovertex> The story on Google's Page Creator just hit Slashdot today... sad.
[10:12] <zerovertex> wrong channel. sry
[10:26] <chip42> whats the easiest way to get kdebindings for dapper?
[10:29] <chip42> nvm. i think i found the packages i was looking for
[10:46] <_mike> ?
[10:47] <reon> !
[10:47] <ubotu> reon: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:54] <Fred21> Hello
[10:54] <Fred21> what's the latest release of kubuntu?
[10:55] <Fred21> stable sorry
[10:56] <bimberi> Fred21: 5.10 "Breezy Badger"
[10:58] <jesi> linux resume help prgoram ?
[10:58] <jesi> anyone know of one?
[10:59] <Petecakes> I'm trying to set up a testing server, but when I try to sudo apt-get install /home/pete/php/php-5.1.2 I'm bombarded with "package not found" errors. Any ideas?
[10:59] <Petecakes> I'm probably just being noobish and missing something out at the end of the directory...
[11:02] <bimberi> Petecakes: you use apt-get to install from repositories, not from your local filesystem
[11:02] <bimberi> !apt
[11:02] <ubotu> I guess apt is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[11:02] <Petecakes> bimeri; thanks a lot.
[11:03] <bimberi> Petecakes: np :), have a read, you probably want something like 'sudo apt-get install php5'
[11:03] <bimberi> !info php5
[11:03] <ubotu> php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 20 kB
[11:04] <Petecakes> bimeri; I need to install from my local system because my Kubuntu PC isn't connected to the 'net yet.
[11:04] <bimberi> Petecakes: ^^^^^ note that the version in kubuntu is 5.0.5
[11:04] <Petecakes> But thanks, I'll have a read over those.
[11:05] <bimberi> Petecakes: ah, in that case you should get .deb files via http://packages.ubuntu.com and transfer them to your pc
[11:05] <bimberi> !dpkg
[11:05] <bimberi> !+dpkg
[11:05] <ubotu> dpkg is, like, the Debian Package Manager.  To install a local deb file, cd into the directory where it is located, then: 'sudo dpkg --install <package_filename.deb>'.  For more info on other dpkg options: 'man dpkg'.  It should be noted that installing this way should generally be used only if you can't find what you want in the repositories.  You should also avoid using any non-Ubuntu deb files (yes, even Debian ones).
[11:06] <bimberi> Petecakes: ^^^^ that's the command to install them
[11:06] <Petecakes> ah, thanks.
[11:06] <Petecakes> Much appreciated.
[11:06] <bimberi> Petecakes: yw :)
[11:11] <heinkel_111> hmmm
[11:11] <spiritz> how can I install kdeplayground-multimedia in kubuntu? looks like there's no such package; anyone ever heard of it?
[11:11] <heinkel_111> what is the property that makes fielnames appear pink coloured in the Konsole
[11:12] <heinkel_111> i have default kubuntu 5.10 bash
[11:12] <heinkel_111> filenames pink?
[11:14] <ninHer> hi all
[11:20] <rysiek|pl> heinkel_111: you have to edit some files ;)
[11:22] <heinkel_111> hi rysiek :)
[11:22] <heinkel_111> hi rysiek|pl :)
[11:22] <rysiek|pl> ready for some messin' around with configs? :)
[11:23] <heinkel_111> :P pink is fine with me, but i just don't understand what why the purpose..what does it try to tell me?
[11:23] <heinkel_111> if i look up these configs i can probably find out, right?
[11:23] <heinkel_111> so what is the config file then?
[11:24] <heinkel_111> something like .bash .list or ?
[11:24] <rysiek|pl> well, I don't have anything pink, I have violet (I guess you could argue on what the colour actually really is ;) )
[11:24] <heinkel_111> you don't want to tell mewhat it is , do you ;)
[11:25] <rysiek|pl> ~/.bashrc - or, if you want to make it global /etc/bash.bashrc
[11:25] <rysiek|pl> sorry, was searching for the files :)
[11:25] <rysiek|pl> I didn't remember the names exactly
[11:25] <heinkel_111> :-)
[11:25] <heinkel_111> global = for all users?
[11:25] <rysiek|pl> yup
[11:25] <heinkel_111> bashrc = just for my user?
[11:26] <heinkel_111> ergh
[11:26] <heinkel_111> ~/.bashrc just for my user?
[11:26] <rysiek|pl> ~/.bashrc - yep, your user's config
[11:26] <Skrot> crimsun: ping?
[11:31] <me2win> !LAMP
[11:31] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:33] <Phazeman> i'm trying to run the ddclient daemon but it seems like not running at all and i can't get my dns's updated. no log entrys though the logging option is turned on in the conf file. can someone please help ?
[11:35] <nico_be> somehow i lost my volume-control icon in the system tray... how could i get it back?
[11:36] <pascal_> kmix
[11:36] <pascal_> just start kmix
[11:36] <nico_be> thx
[11:36] <nico_be> will it stay there in future sessions?
[11:36] <pascal_> np
[11:36] <pascal_> yeah
[11:36] <nico_be> cool
[11:37] <nico_be> dunno how i made it go away...
[11:37] <pascal_> It should also be in the kmenu under multimedia
[11:39] <nico_be> yup, but since it's labelled "sound mixer" there I didn't try it, because when i tried to add the applet named "sound mixer" to the systray i got a big thing with lots of settings (obviously it wasn't the same thing)
[11:40] <heinkel_111> rysiek|pl: do you know where the dir_color config file is located?
[11:40] <heinkel_111> i can't find it in /etc/
[11:40] <pascal_> yeah... it's bad usability
[11:44] <pascal_> riddell I've been reporting a lot of bugs to kubuntu dapper lately, but I've been starting to wonder if I'm doing it the right place, since there aren't very many bugs. is Launchpad  Distributions  Ubuntu  kubuntu-meta the right location?
[11:44] <nico_be> going to sleep... see you
[11:44] <holy_fool> hi, i want to install java, i have the bin file but how do i use it?
[11:45] <pascal_> wouldnt it be easier to use apt?
[11:45] <holy_fool> ?
[11:46] <pascal_> I'm pretty sure you can install it using adept.
[11:46] <holy_fool> started today with linux
[11:46] <pascal_> ok. are you using breezy?
[11:46] <holy_fool> 5.10
[11:46] <pascal_> ok good
[11:47] <pascal_> so you start adept
[11:47] <holy_fool> where? how?
[11:47] <holy_fool> got it
[11:47] <pascal_> ok good. and you click "manage repositories"
[11:48] <pascal_> I think in the files menu
[11:48] <holy_fool> loading.... adept
[11:48] <pascal_> ok
[11:49] <holy_fool> manage repositories...
[11:50] <pascal_> you click "manage repositories", and rightclick the lines where it says universe in the distribution collumn and click enable
[11:50] <pascal_> there should be 2
[11:50] <pascal_> Do the same with the 2 lines that are multiverse
[11:51] <holy_fool> 4 universe none multiverse
[11:53] <pascal_> ok... give me a sec
[11:53] <holy_fool> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu the same wit deb-src & deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu the same wit deb_src
[11:53] <holy_fool> k
[11:55] <pascal_> I wound a goot link for you http://www.docuverse.com/blog/donpark/EntryViewPage.aspx?guid=f171bafc-abce-4d2e-a18b-3aba4ad32c52
[11:55] <pascal_> *found
[11:55] <pascal_> It tells you how to install java
[11:55] <holy_fool> got it
[11:55] <holy_fool> thx
[11:57] <MagicDk> hi
[11:58] <MagicDk> My sistem is: AMD Duron 750Mhz, 384 ram, nvidia GForce mx200/32Mb , hdd 60 Gb - with what distribution it will work faster: ubuntu or kubuntu ?! what to choose ??
[12:00] <Dasnipa`> MagicDk, both will be about the same... ubuntu is gnome kubuntu is kde
[12:00] <Dasnipa`> only main difference