[02:55] <digirat> i typed it wrong in here
[02:55] <sarixe> Jimmey__: k
[02:55] <Jimmey__> bioeng: We'll help
[02:55] <sarixe> trying it now
[02:55] <shawn__> yeah, i know, i tried #kubuntu first but i get better responses here :D
[02:55] <apokryphos> XVampireX: alsamixer in terminal
[02:55] <ali_> hey guys
[02:55] <Ron_o> bioeng, what do ya need to know?
[02:55] <bioeng> I burned an ISO of AMD64 permanent install of Ubuntu
[02:56] <XVampireX> apokryphos, Thanks
[02:56] <digirat> "xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed"
[02:56] <bioeng> Now, I restart my computer
[02:56] <apokryphos> digirat: well, what did you do?
[02:56] <bioeng> and it should install?
[02:56] <Ron_o> yes, as long as your bios is setup properly.
[02:56] <Jimmey__> If the CD's in the tray when you reboot, it should boot the installer, which will guide you through the install
[02:56] <kieranDOA> bioeng: Make sure you have cd set as a boot device
[02:56] <Ron_o> you have to have CDROM boot enabled.
[02:56] <bioeng> It is
[02:56] <Ron_o> and?
[02:56] <Ron_o> what's going on?
[02:56] <XVampireX> apokryphos, Not quite what I needed... I need to get latency down
[02:57] <revilot> is there anyone that might be able to help me with ndiswrapper / broadcom wireless driver installation
[02:57] <Zambezi> bioeng: Change the boot priority. CD first.
[02:57] <shawn__> apokryphos: are you thinking of System Guard as opposed to Simple System Monitor?
[02:57] <XVampireX> Whatever the thing was
[02:57] <apokryphos> XVampireX: hm, not sure; tried in #alsa ?
[02:57] <bioeng> That's what it is set to
[02:57] <Ron_o> what's happeneing then?
[02:57] <XVampireX> Okey, I'll check
[02:57] <Ron_o> what's going wrong?
[02:57] <digirat> i typed in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" .. and got "/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed"
[02:57] <apokryphos> shawn__: no
[02:57] <apokryphos> digirat: yes, any other information? Any playing with xorg?
[02:57] <bioeng> When I install, it should also install a boot loader that allows me to boot either Windows XP or Ubuntu at startup?
[02:57] <apokryphos> bioeng: yes
[02:57] <hyphenated> revilot: search the wiki for your wireless card
[02:57] <nixuser> randolphcarter: im lost , no idea where to place that edit for noapci
[02:57] <digirat> i tried upgrading from breezy
[02:57] <Ron_o> dual boot..
[02:58] <gdb> I'm curious, is the freenx server in either universe or multiverse?
[02:58] <apokryphos> digirat: how did you upgrade
[02:58] <kieranDOA> bioeng:yes it should install grub
[02:58] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: at the end of the defoptions= line
[02:58] <shawn__> oh ok, cool, do you happen to know what the package is called? because i dont see it :\
[02:58] <bioeng> If I run into problems during the install, I should be able to return to Windows XP?
[02:58] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:58] <kieranDOA> Just be careful not to mess up the partition table if you dont want to loose windows :-)
[02:58] <gdb> I'm looking to replace my Fedora Core server with Ubuntu and I want to make sure I won't lose functionality if I do that.
[02:58] <nixuser> im in that
[02:58] <Ron_o> bioeng, do you have a backup?
[02:58] <apokryphos> bioeng: correct
[02:58] <digirat> apokryphos, changed repos to dapper, and did dist-upgrade
[02:58] <Ron_o> you should because it's a separate partition.
[02:58] <nixuser> defoptions= default options?
[02:58] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: well, search for defoptions then
[02:58] <bioeng> I don't have a backup
[02:58] <gdb> (Other than SELinux, obviously, which I don't care about).
[02:59] <Ron_o> ok
[02:59] <apokryphos> digirat: did you have ubuntu-desktop installed before upgrading?
[02:59] <aleka> anyone interested in helping a nooB
[02:59] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: yes, it's a line in that file.  add 'noapic nolapic acpi=off' to the end of it, then save and run 'sudo update-grub'
[02:59] <apokryphos> aleka: ask here =)
[02:59] <digirat> i had kubuntu-desktop
[02:59] <Jimmey__> aleka: hundreds of us:P
[02:59] <bioeng> My computer did not include a Windows XP disk, yet it was installed
[02:59] <nixuser> ok
[02:59] <apokryphos> digirat: definitely?
[02:59] <apokryphos> digirat: is it still installed now?
[02:59] <digirat> yes, i was using it
[02:59] <digirat> i hope so? :P
[02:59] <ThePub> good evening
[02:59] <aleka> I have apache2 running on my ubuntu along with php4 and mysql
[02:59] <sarixe> Jimmey__: ctrl-alt-f1 crashed X
[02:59] <apokryphos> digirat: dpkg -l|grep kubuntu-desktop
[02:59] <Ron_o> bioeng, I can't stress enough to have a backup.... however, it's your choice..
[02:59] <Jimmey__> sarixe: Did it fall back to the prompt?
[03:00] <aleka> i have also installed the library for apache php integration
[03:00] <sarixe> Jimmey__: no, it crashed X
[03:00] <Jimmey__> sarixe: A black screen?
[03:00] <sarixe> yes
[03:00] <aleka> but I can't seem to be able to open php files in my browser [get the option to open as source]
[03:00] <apokryphos> digirat: also, what do you mean by "yes, I was using it"? It's a metapackage, it can be removed at any time and you wouldn't notice any difference
[03:00] <bioeng> I need the retail Windows XP CD to have a backup of Windows XP?
[03:00] <aleka> i have read suggestions on this on the forums page and have tried everything
[03:00] <digirat> apokryphos, not installed
[03:01] <apokryphos> digirat: then you didn't have it before upgrading :)
[03:01] <digirat> apokryphos, then i didn't. how do i get it now?
[03:01] <Sgeo> Hi all
[03:01] <livingdaylight> is java 1.5 available now for ubuntu? i see 1.4 in repos
[03:01] <apokryphos> digirat: I can't stress this enough: you HAVE to have one of the metapackages (ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop etc) installed before you upgrade. Any good upgrade guide will tell you this.
[03:01] <Sgeo> Dumb question, but what's the default Drake wallpaper?
[03:01] <aleka> what should i do to get apache to serve php files?
[03:01] <harisund> aleka are you getting the standard "What do you want to do with this pfile" error?
[03:01] <nixuser> randolphcarter: should i comment that out like all the other lines?
[03:01] <kermitX_> livingdaylight, java 1.5 is in multiverse.
[03:01] <digirat> apokryphos, i just sorta guessed on the upgrade procedure
[03:01] <Jimmey__> Sgeo: some ugly brown thing.
[03:01] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell aleka about LAMP
[03:01] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: you don't need to add any lines
[03:02] <ali_> been checkin out www.recoveryourlife.com, think it could do wiv some donations since it runs on ubuntu
[03:02] <apokryphos> digirat: bad idea, you're playing with your system's life 8)
[03:02] <digirat> apokryphos, how do i fix it?
[03:02] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: defoptions= is commented already, and should remain commented.  just type the things I said at the end of it
[03:02] <livingdaylight> kermitX_: huh? why have i only got 1.4?
[03:02] <aleka> yes, browser opens up a prompt window : what do you want to do  Save, open?
[03:02] <bioeng> One more question:  Will a Linksys USB wireless adapter work on ubuntu?
[03:02] <apokryphos> digirat: it might not be easy to do, for some it's not possible. Essentially depends on a lot of things. Try installing the package now. If things go smooth, you might be in luck.
[03:02] <sarixe> Jimmey__: any suggestions?
[03:02] <nixuser> ok time to reboot
[03:03] <nixuser> thank you
[03:03] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: run 'sudo update-grub' first
[03:03] <digirat> apokryphos, i can't get eth0 up
[03:03] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: np's
[03:03] <nixuser> yes i did thanks
[03:03] <Ron_o> bioeng, what I meant by backup was to backup important data, and you can backup everything in an exact image.. etc..
[03:03] <harisund> aleka, if you are willing to, we can go over the process. Basically it involves a complete reinstall, and I have not known it to fail so far..
[03:03] <hyphenated> bioeng: possibly. boot the livecd and plug it in :-)
[03:03] <Pupbuntoo> hi, i just upgraded breezy to dapper.  now it seems that latex is not hyphenating words -- is there some special thing i need to do to get it working again?
[03:03] <apokryphos> digirat: do you have the CD?
[03:03] <Jimmey__> sarixe: there's probably a log to check somewhere, I just don't know which one, sorry
[03:03] <digirat> apokryphos, a dapper cd?
[03:03] <sarixe> k
[03:03] <apokryphos> digirat: yes
[03:03] <digirat> apokryphos, lemme dig through my collection
[03:04] <bioeng> I also have a recovery partition
[03:04] <AlienX> bioeng, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28cards%29%7C%28wireless%29
[03:04] <Ron_o> bioeng, most likely it will out of the box. However, you may have to configure something. There's a list out there for devices that work with ubuntu..
[03:04] <kieranDOA> ali_: no it doesnt :-)
[03:04] <Ron_o> but just give a whirl and see. Try the live CD and see if it works in there..
[03:04] <gilianima> hi
[03:04] <digirat> apokryphos, i seem to be lacking a cd drive
[03:04] <bioeng> I did try the Live CD
[03:04] <aleka> ok... one thing I might need help after reinstallation is how to give apache an alias directory so my web root directory can live outside of the default directory
[03:04] <apokryphos> digirat: then you won't be able to fix that problem at this time
[03:04] <bioeng> It worked well
[03:04] <Ron_o> did it work in there, bioeng ?
[03:04] <harisund> aleka sure no problem.
[03:04] <Ron_o> ok.. then..
[03:04] <kermitX_> livingdaylight, the version that's installed by default is a 'free' implementation... sun-java5-bin is in multiverse repository. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:04] <livingdaylight> kermitX_: ?
[03:04] <digirat> apokryphos, lemme see if i can get a diff drive in
[03:04] <ali_> cheap skates
[03:05] <Jimmey__> aleka: Set the "DocumentRoot" option to where you want the HTML files to be placed
[03:05] <hyphenated> bioeng: did your linksys wireless work on it though? if it does, it'll work just as well on an installed system
[03:05] <aleka> do I need to do anything, like stop the server or just go to the link and follow instructions?
[03:05] <Jimmey__> aleka: Like, "DocumentRoot = /home/apache"
[03:05] <Jimmey__> aleka: gksudo gedit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf - When that's done, restart apache by sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[03:06] <harisund> hey hang on ...
[03:06] <harisund> Jimmey___ the file you are talking about .. are you sure that is what needs to be edited on an Ubuntu macine?
[03:06] <Jimmey__> harisund: Yep.
[03:06] <bioeng> I just needed to configure the card
[03:06] <fbolduc> Question: Is there anybody helpfull to answer some question about basic Linux programming.
[03:06] <nixuser> randolphcarter: rebooted ok, but i see that ubuntu is loading acpi modules on startup, is this right?
[03:06] <Jimmey__> fbolduc: Yep.
[03:06] <harisund> Jimmey___ that file is to be edited on Apache2 if installed by itself. If you use apt-get DocumentRoot is not in that file
[03:06] <eugman> Can anyone give me a link exaplain .desktop files? I want to do http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192633 but with a local game.
[03:06] <bioeng> I'm hearing about ndiswrapper
[03:07] <fbolduc> Jimmey__: May I speak in private with you?
[03:07] <aleka> jimmey_ what is the gksudo command? If am not being annoying?
[03:07] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: so long as acpi=off, it should be honouring it
[03:07] <Jimmey__> fbolduc: You sure can.
[03:07] <harisund> Jimmey__ DocumentRoot is in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[03:07] <nixuser> ok thanks bro, much appreciated
[03:07] <Jimmey__> aleka: gksudo is sudo for GTK applications.
[03:07] <Jimmey__> !gksudo
[03:07] <bioeng> Is that included with Ubuntu, ndiswrapper is?
[03:07] <MagicFab> aleka, agksudo y like sudo, but graphic
[03:07] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run qt applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[03:07] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: any improvement? :) and nps
[03:07] <bioeng> By the way, I also had video card difficulties
[03:07] <nixuser> randolph: it takes a while for the laptop to lock up, will test for 24 hours
[03:08] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: ah, okay
[03:08] <eugman> <------------ Would like a link to something explaining .desktop files.
[03:08] <digirat> apokryphos, i have a dapper cd in the drive, but don't know how to install off a cd
[03:08] <Jimmey__> eugman, try "/me would like a like to something explaining .desktop files"
[03:09] <Jimmey__> In the IRC chat window
[03:09] <revilot> hyphenated: ive found it and tried setting up ndis wrapper but i have no idea if im doing it correctly or not
[03:09] <aleka> harisund.. can you walk me thru with LAMP please?
[03:09] <Jimmey__> :P
[03:09] <nixuser> randolph: its a new toshiba, i have been suspicious of the hardware, hopefully this will help
[03:09] <RandolphCarter> eugman: http://www.freedesktop.org
[03:09] <harisund> aleka Sure..
[03:09] <apokryphos> digirat: you will need to use apt-cdrom to get it running. It's been some time, so I don't recall how to use it though
[03:09] <harisund> aleka are you familair with the command line?
[03:09] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: ahh, okay - if it's a poor little laptop, maybe the fans/thermal don't like being on 24-hours? :/
[03:09] <harisund> and by the way, are you on Breezy or Dapper aleka? (not that it matters.. )
[03:09] <revilot> hyphenated: obv im doing something wrong
[03:09] <Ron_o> digirat, it's in the wiki..
[03:09] <Ron_o> I used it..
[03:10] <Ron_o> it tells you exactly what to do...
[03:10] <nixuser> randolph: i enabled frequency stepping and it did not help
[03:10] <Ron_o> !dapper
[03:10] <ubotu> it has been said that dapper is Ubuntu 6.06, the "Dapper Drake" release. Released June 1st 2006
[03:10] <aleka> I use the command line quite a bit.. but not an expert user [ I am on Dapper drake] ..
[03:10] <Ron_o> !upgrade
[03:10] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[03:10] <harisund> aleka ok very well. Don't bother ..
[03:10] <sarixe> i think i got it... drm seems to be acting up... i'll disable it
[03:10] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: erk :/ guess you'll just have to hope, my toshiba laptop's been running for 4 years w/o trouble now
[03:10] <eugman> RandolphCarter, Actually I'll probably be fine if you can just tell me what the tryexec field mean.
[03:10] <aleka> 've used apt-get install a lot... but sudo aptitude [as in the website]  is a new command to me
[03:11] <RandolphCarter> eugman: I haven't a clue, was just pointing you to the docs on .desktop files :)
[03:11] <nixuser> randoph: best buy 400 dollar cheapo  :)
[03:11] <digirat> apokryphos, and now i know why my install never finished ... "not enough space"
[03:11] <eugman> Yes, well I'm afraid specification are probably too cryptic and advanced for me.
[03:11] <RandolphCarter> nixuser: ahh, UK here :P factory reconditioned, probably ex-rental or ex-show
[03:11] <Ohzie> What's the package you need to install for usermode linux?
[03:11] <eugman> Can anyone tell me what the tryexec field in a .desktop means?
[03:11] <Jimmey__> digirat: I'm not sure that Ubuntu will install to a target that doesn't have enough space.
[03:11] <apokryphos> digirat: sudo apt-get clean
[03:11] <Ron_o> digirat, I had the same problem. D/l the iso - burn and use it as part of apt.
[03:12] <nixuser> randolph: usually i go for the dell latitude refurbs, but this seemed to be the better deal at the time
[03:13] <ToHellWithGA> oi vey my roommate is mixing my $30/bottle gin with fucking fruit juice
[03:13] <nixuser> later, time to play some games, thanks again
[03:13] <digirat> why is openoffice a requirement for ubuntu-desktop?
[03:13] <ToHellWithGA> digirat: remove the package if you don't like it
[03:13] <Ron_o> in dapper it's not.
[03:13] <apokryphos> digirat: .....because it's the office suite that comes with the default ubuntu distribution
[03:13] <wastrel> i have dapper
[03:13] <dallgood> i have dual monitors setup in twinview, but does anyone know why windows maximize to fill both monitors?  i want maximized windows to fill only 1 monitor
[03:14] <Ron_o> I suppose, too, they feel that it's needed.
[03:14] <kermitX_> digirat, openoffice was chosen as the productivity software suite. you don't need it. you can remove the ubuntu-desktop meta package and then remove whatever parts of it you don't want.
[03:14] <apokryphos> Ron_o: err, I'm pretty sure it is
[03:14] <Ron_o> I got rid of mine in dapper.
[03:14] <Ron_o> w/o losting ubuntu-desktop.
[03:14] <wastrel> what's wrong with openoffice?
[03:15] <eugman> KermitX, of course no meta package can make upgrading harder.
[03:15] <digirat> wow... i did "apt-get remove openoffice.org" and it said that 1050 packages aren't installed correclty
[03:15] <RandolphCarter> digirat: sudo aptitude keep-all
[03:15] <digirat> what the heck do you need openoffice for on a server?
[03:15] <wastrel> oic
[03:15] <Ron_o> you mean you need an upgrade?
[03:15] <apokryphos> digirat: err, you have a server install?
[03:15] <kermitX_> digirat, what are you doing with a graphical desktop on a server? ;)
[03:15] <digirat> no, i used a desktop install as my server
[03:15] <SurfnKid> hey guys question about gaim
[03:15] <apokryphos> digirat: there is of course no OOo on a server install
[03:15] <Ron_o> then get rid of that stuff.
[03:15] <SurfnKid> how come i can connect to AIM but not ICQ
[03:16] <digirat> easier for me back when i didn't know linux at all
[03:16] <kermitX_> digirat, with the alternate cd or server iso edition you can do a 'clean' install and then just install the parts you want.
[03:16] <eugman> Anyone here who understand what the firelds in a .desktop file mean care to explain tryexec to me?
[03:16] <SurfnKid> hows everyone doing tonite? upgrade? install? what have ya all done :P
[03:16] <ruivaldo___> hi, ive installed ubuntu dapper on my laptop. this laptop is connected to a routed lan that distributes the internet between the flats. this lan uses dhcp, which works on windows, but ubuntu wasnt able to setup this properly.
[03:16] <digirat> it appears to be continuing my upgrade... so i think this solved it...
[03:16] <wastrel> dhcp
[03:17] <ruivaldo___> every time i run dhclient, i get a SLOCADDRT: Network is unreachable.
[03:17] <RandolphCarter> eugman: I just searched the standard for you
[03:17] <RandolphCarter> eugman: it's a program run to determine if the main program of the launcher is actually installed (presumably it would try to install it if it wasn't)
[03:17] <SurfnKid> anyone using GAIM
[03:17] <jbroome> no
[03:18] <jbroome> no one is
[03:18] <RandolphCarter> eugman: I assume if that program returns non-zero, the launcher won't execute
[03:18] <Jimmey__> SurfnKid: Yep
[03:18] <kermitX_> SurfnKid, not for irc.
[03:18] <SurfnKid> Jimmey__, do u have ICQ
[03:18] <fbolduc> SurfnKid: Yes, I am.
[03:18] <SurfnKid> how can i connect to ICQ
[03:18] <eugman> k, thanks.
[03:18] <wastrel> SurfnKid:  did you install the icq plugin?
[03:18] <SurfnKid> ive got my old account, works on XP but not there, AIM/ICQ is confusing.
[03:18] <SurfnKid> wastrel, the oscar plugin?
[03:19] <Jimmey__> SurfnKid: Type this into a terminal: Hackey --McHackPhrack || ConnectToIRC sessame
[03:19] <wastrel> i dunno, i don't use icq
[03:19] <SurfnKid> ok
[03:19] <Jimmey__> Sorry SurfnKid, I was joking.
[03:19] <SurfnKid> i thought so
[03:19] <Jimmey__> Sorry :(
[03:20] <SurfnKid> wastrel, what plugin then
[03:20] <darkprophet> i can't find java in the Add/remove menu
[03:20] <darkprophet> any ideas ?
[03:20] <SurfnKid> Jimmey__, hehe np
[03:20] <SurfnKid> darkprophet,  search
[03:20] <Jimmey__> SurfnKid: I don't think you need one.
[03:20] <viator> !xgl
[03:20] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems.  Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:20] <darkprophet> i tried...its not there
[03:20] <SurfnKid> Jimmey__, but its letting me connect to AIM. and ICQ is also part of AIM so im not sure why
[03:20] <darkprophet> not sun-java5-bin anyway
[03:20] <SurfnKid> darkprophet, enable multiverse and universe maybe, I just installed it last night from a fresh install of Breezy
[03:21] <wastrel> SurfnKid:  nvm, i guess there's not a separate icq plugin
[03:21] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:21] <SurfnKid> wastrel, i heard there is, for the oscar server or something, it has to do with icq but i have no clue
[03:21] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <darkprophet> SurfnKid: sorry...how do i enable universe/multiverse ?
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hihih
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> ih
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <SurfnKid> um
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hih
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <jbroome> !ops henri_ohh_best spamming channel
[03:22] <ubotu> jbroome: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> hi
[03:22] <henri_ohh_best> I'll stop
[03:22] <SurfnKid> bye bye henri_ohh_best
[03:22] <nathansnook> can some one explain apt command to install software
[03:22] <nathansnook> I want to install gftp
[03:22] <SurfnKid> darkprophet, hang on
[03:22] <b0ef> ehlo
[03:22] <ruivaldo___> somebody else had this problem ?
[03:22] <b0ef> I'm trying to help a friend using ubuntu 6.06 to mount his NTFS partition with RW, but it still complains even if mount show the directory as rw. Any pointers as to what I can tell him?
[03:23] <SurfnKid> !universe
[03:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[03:23] <darkprophet> b0ef: dont mount ntfs as RW
[03:23] <SurfnKid> darkprophet, read that
[03:23] <darkprophet> windows wont work once linux has written to it
[03:23] <Jimmey__> b0ef: You can't write to NTFS.
[03:23] <b0ef> Jimmey__: well, it should support writing to NTFS (backups are made)
[03:24] <Jimmey__> b0ef: But NTFS is some closed source McShizzle, dawg
[03:24] <jbroome> holla
[03:24] <SurfnKid> windows wont work peegiod
[03:24] <b0ef> Jimmey__: true, but he needs to clear some files; he's in the process of being freed, though;)
[03:24] <SurfnKid> !icq
[03:24] <ubotu> SurfnKid: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:25] <eggzeck> SurfnKid: gaim does ICQ.
[03:25] <wastrel> supposively
[03:25] <eggzeck> No, it DOES, I use it
[03:25] <reqage> has anyone messed with installing xlibs on dapper?
[03:26] <SurfnKid> eggzeck, under AIM/ICQ
[03:26] <DarkMageZ> b0ef, linux ntfs write support is unstable, and is well known for killing ntfs partitions. if the data is backed up, then feel free to convert the partition to fat32, which linux does RW to fine
[03:26] <eggzeck> SurfnKid: Yes.
[03:26] <twobitsprite> is there a site I can search logs? irclinux.org doesn't seem to let you search
[03:26] <SurfnKid> eggzeck, ive added AIM and logs in. but ICQ returns an error
[03:26] <twobitsprite> !logs
[03:26] <ubotu> logs are at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[03:27] <eggzeck> SurfnKid: All you need to do is enter your ICQ number where it says screen name
[03:27] <twobitsprite> hmm... no searching there either
[03:27] <eggzeck> SurfnKid: When adding an account
[03:27] <SurfnKid> eggzeck, exactly thats what i thought
[03:27] <b0ef> DarkMageZ: I know it is unstable, but it should be possible to write to it
[03:27] <b0ef> DarkMageZ: especially when it's mounted read/write
[03:27] <SurfnKid> eggzeck, ive got an account from back in 95.  My other XP laptop still has it running, recently reinstalled it too. so not sure why i cant here
[03:27] <DarkMageZ> b0ef, this guide might help u get read/write working properly
[03:27] <Jimmey__> b0ef: What if Linux doesn't - know how to?
[03:28] <wastrel> centericq is popular
[03:28] <Jimmey__> centericq rockxz.
[03:28] <eggzeck> SurfnKid: Did you try adding a new account to gaim? Click on "Accounts", then "Add", where it says "Screen Name", put your ICQ number, then password and alias :)
[03:28] <nathansnook> what is the command to update system from the command line
[03:29] <Jimmey__> !update
[03:29] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Jimmey__
[03:29] <eggzeck> nathansnook: apt-get update
[03:29] <Jimmey__> !upgrade
[03:29] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[03:29] <eggzeck> nathansnook: apt-get upgrade
[03:29] <Jimmey__> Shamayam
[03:29] <SurfnKid> eggzeck, i followed exactly that for all my other msn, yho, AIM account and they all log in.  maybe i need to check at the icq page or something. but its weird i cant connect
[03:30] <b0ef> Jimmey__: I know it does, reading the linux-ntfs page
[03:30] <eggzeck> nathansnook: If you're on Gnome and still don't have Dapper, gksudo "update-manager -d"
[03:30] <SurfnKid> eggzeck, its strange
[03:30] <DarkMageZ> b0ef, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481
[03:30] <eggzeck> SurfnKid: What's the error?
[03:30] <SurfnKid> hang on
[03:30] <zexr0> any idea about this error ? (<unknown>:5249): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[03:30] <zexr0>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[03:31] <SurfnKid> incorrect nickname or password
[03:31] <jcape> zexr0: What do your LC_ALL, LOCALE, and/or LANG environment variables say?
[03:31] <b0ef> DarkMageZ: thanks; I'll look at that
[03:31] <eggzeck> SurfnKid: Then make sure they're correct. I'm on ICQ now with Gaim
[03:31] <SurfnKid> eggzeck, i think ill do that, you're right
[03:32] <jcape> zexr0: Or: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/07/msg00023.html
[03:32] <SurfnKid> ill check my XP setup for the number
[03:33] <SurfnKid> will upgrading to Dapper change wifi configurations
[03:33] <zexr0> jcape, I saw this site but it dosen't work,
[03:33] <zexr0> I don't know how to give you the information
[03:34] <maxkelley> say, X crashed and I can't even get a vterm to display on my computer. the vterm works, there's nothing on the display. how can I fix this over ssh without a reboot?
[03:35] <maxkelley> .
[03:35] <jcape> env | grep LANG
[03:35] <maxkelley> oops
[03:35] <jcape> zexr0: env | grep LC
[03:35] <jcape> zexr0: env | grep LOC
[03:35] <zexr0> SESSION_MANAGER=local/ZeXr0-UbuntuLaptop:/tmp/.ICE-unix/4974
[03:35] <zexr0> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[03:35] <zexr0> GDM_XSERVER_LOCATION=local
[03:36] <maxkelley> anyone have ideas for me?
[03:36] <zexr0> it might help you to know that i'm trying to make pcsx works with FFVII
[03:36] <jcape> zexr0: Do you have a default locale set?
[03:36] <zexr0> I don't know
[03:37] <SurfnKid> where's the lid settings
[03:38] <SurfnKid> when closing... do this
[03:38] <Ruchu> holas
[03:38] <SurfnKid> when closing... standby
[03:38] <SurfnKid> etc
[03:38] <jcape> zexr0: When you ran "dpkg-reconfigure locales", what did it say after "Generating locales..."?
[03:38] <zexr0> a lot of lines
[03:38] <zexr0> but mainly every en and fr
[03:38] <jcape> zexr0: K
[03:38] <wd3> just installed 3d chess, how do i get running?
[03:38] <genti_> hello people
[03:39] <Shadowinthedark> hello dudes
[03:39] <wastrel> hi everybody
[03:39] <digirat> 3d chess sucks
[03:39] <genti_> i am looking for a trick how to install the fglrx module on an amd64 with xorg 7
[03:39] <Shadowinthedark> gd alseep, l8t night chat sshhh!
[03:39] <Shadowinthedark> gf*
[03:39] <livingdaylight> anyone hear of jNLP file? is that Linux compatible or not?
[03:40] <maxkelley> mehhhhhhh
[03:40] <shawn__> when i try to manually compile an app (Simple System Monitor applet for Kicker in KDE) I get an error during configure: "configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths" anyone else have this issue or know how to fix it? i have build-essential, libx11-dev , libxext-dev, and libxinerama-dev all installed.
[03:40] <pvangarde> hey. do linksys wireless cards work with ubuntu?
[03:40] <pvangarde> can someone help me setup one
[03:40] <Killuminati> Is there a way to view your Ubuntu partition in windows?
[03:40] <maxkelley> shawn__: apt-get install build-essentials
[03:40] <jcape> zexr0: If you run "dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" as root, what is the currently selected locale?
[03:40] <maxkelley> is what I believe you need to do..
[03:41] <RandolphCarter> shawn__: installing xorg-dev should do the trick
[03:41] <Shadowinthedark> pvangarde: try wiv the live cd
[03:41] <AlienX> pvangarde, one sec, i'll get you a link
[03:41] <maxkelley> i think it's actually xserver-xorg-dev
[03:41] <livingdaylight> how does it go? sudo alien <package.rpm> ???
[03:41] <maxkelley> something like that.
[03:41] <pvangarde> Killuminati: sure there's a partition explorer
[03:41] <try_iT_556> hi all, how can i add suport for svg to firefox?
[03:41] <pvangarde> Shadowinthedark: didn't work with the live cd
[03:41] <livingdaylight> or sudo alien install <package.rpm> ???
[03:41] <kbrosnan> try_iT_556, it is in 1.5 by default
[03:41] <Killuminati> pvangarde, Can you be more specific please?
[03:41] <RandolphCarter> shawn__: it might be worth looking into auto-apt too (xorg-dev depends on most packages you'd ever need)
[03:41] <Anonycat> I've installed ndiswrapper on a computer and manually edited /etc/network/interfaces to make a wlan0 interface appear, but it doesn't work.  Is there a (possibly hardware-specific) line that needs to be in the interfaces file to make it work?
[03:42] <zexr0> jcape, C
[03:42] <pvangarde> Killuminati: google explorer linux partition
[03:42] <AlienX> pvangarde, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:42] <maxkelley> mehhh
[03:42] <pvangarde> thanks AlienX
[03:42] <AlienX> pvangarde, np
[03:42] <SurfnKid> does anyone know how to change the LID settings so I cn set standby, shut off oer do nothing
[03:42] <shawn__> RandolphCarter: heh sorry, but whats auto-apt?
[03:42] <Shadowinthedark> pvangarde: i run a rare belkin card, linsys is pretty popular so i wld guess so
[03:43] <livingdaylight> can someone please answer my question regarding alien, please. I know you all know it  :D
[03:43] <maxkelley> Anonycat: i believe that ndiswrapper is installed by default
[03:43] <jcape> zexr0: Was the "manage locales with debconf" checked?
[03:43] <maxkelley> livingdaylight: we're not tech support, we're just doing what we can.
[03:43] <Anonycat> It is, but my wireless card isn't working with it.  The driver says it's present along with the hardware, but it has no network connectivity.
[03:44] <Shadowinthedark> im having probs wiv internet sharing, using firestarter
[03:44] <livingdaylight> maxkelley: ooh...  :o .i am sorry
[03:44] <Shadowinthedark> winxp machine works, but ubuntu wont
[03:44] <RandolphCarter> shawn__: you can use it to automatically fetch required deb's for things like this
[03:44] <shawn__> oh ok thx
[03:44] <livingdaylight> maxkelley: so how do i install withalien then?  :D
[03:45] <shawn__> does it work like apt-get?
[03:45] <maxkelley> livingdaylight: it's ok, I'm a bit groggy.. X is b0rked. I don't know how to use alien :) take a look at man alien
[03:45] <jcape> zexr0: My suggestion is to set the default locale using "dpkg-reconfigure localeconf" (ensuring that the "Manage locales with debconf" checkbox is checked), and then log out/log back in.
[03:45] <shawn__> ie. auto-apt install <package>
[03:45] <Ronz> linux noob question of the night: how do i play mp3 / m4a files in dapper drake?
[03:45] <Shadowinthedark> just brought a bebox, tring to port ubuntu
[03:46] <wastrel> !tell ronz about mp3
[03:46] <maxkelley> bebox?
[03:46] <tareque99> hi everyone
[03:46] <maxkelley> tareque99: how-dee!
[03:46] <tareque99> i am a new user of ubuntu
[03:46] <spikeb> you have a bebox and you're going to desecrate it with ubuntu?
[03:46] <wastrel> beos?
[03:46] <spikeb> :(
[03:46] <livingdaylight> maxkelley: sorry to hear it man...mybox only broke again and i've just had to do a fresh install myself, but i'm trying to keep smiling.   Is there a (possibly hardware-specific) line that needs to be in the interfaces file to make it work?
[03:48] <revilot> I just tried to drag and drop some files and ubuntu is telling me i dont have permissions?
[03:48] <mathfee1> where are you trying to drop it at?
[03:48] <revilot> from one file to another
[03:48] <revilot> inside ndiswrapper folder
[03:48] <revilot> folder to another rather
[03:48] <mathfee1> i think that's own by root?
[03:49] <livingdaylight> maxkelley: yea i can see if you get yourself in trouble on account of helping others that can be even moreannoying and source of resentment, and then a guy like me comes along and shouts for help  hehe sorry man.
[03:49] <revilot> why wouldnt i be root
[03:49] <Mark1412> hey guys, how do i bring my recycle bin back to my panel?!?>!?!?!?!
[03:49] <Shadowinthedark> this is gunna sound stupid, any1 using dapper
[03:49] <Killuminati> tareque99, Check out lamp
[03:49] <mathfee1> because in linux, you don't work as root unless you have to for security reason..
[03:49] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, I am
[03:49] <mathfee1> that's what sudo do
[03:49] <revilot> so i cant drag and drop files in linux?
[03:49] <maxkelley> livingdaylight: np :) it's my good personality that's doing it!!!
[03:49] <mathfee1> sudo = super-user do
[03:49] <SurfnKid> Anonycat, you got broadcom card?
[03:49] <firefly> hey...I just accidentally hit ctr+c on apt-get dist-upgrade...that's bad isn't it
[03:49] <mathfee1> it means you have to have proper permission
[03:49] <Mark1412> hey guys, how do i bring my recycle bin back to my panel?!?>!?!?!?!
[03:49] <revilot> its my pc
[03:49] <tareque99> thanks
[03:50] <Shadowinthedark> killuminati: isit any gd?, im waiting on cds to b delivered
[03:50] <revilot> linux wont give me permission
[03:50] <Anonycat> SurfnKid: Linksys WPC54G, with driver lsbcmnds.sys
[03:50] <revilot> ?
[03:50] <mathfee1> if you want to drag/drop it to a folder that's own by root, you need to be root to do it
[03:50] <RandolphCarter> revilot: if you start a file browser as root, sure you can, but a file browser run as you can't do that
[03:50] <jcape> Mark1412: Right-click where you want to re-add it, select "Add to Panel" --> "Trash Applet" --> "Add"
[03:50] <SurfnKid> Anonycat, oh
[03:50] <RandolphCarter> revilot: can't and shouldn't
[03:50] <Mark1412> jcape thanks alot!!!
[03:50] <SurfnKid> Anonycat, miniPCI or usb
[03:50] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, Trust me. It's the best Ubuntu by far. It's refined in every factor =)
[03:50] <firefly> What should I do?
[03:50] <revilot> ok how do i start a file broswer as root
[03:50] <mathfee1> you can't do it and shouldn't do it?
[03:50] <jcape> Mark1412: np
[03:50] <Anonycat> SurfnKid: a PC card
[03:50] <SurfnKid> Anonycat, there's gotta be a How to on that
[03:50] <RandolphCarter> revilot: sudo nautilus --no-desktop
[03:50] <revilot> ok so how can i move files
[03:50] <mathfee1> it's better to use terminal for that reason
[03:50] <RandolphCarter> revilot: gksudo nautilus --no-desktop, sorry
[03:51] <revilot> sigh
[03:51] <mathfee1> sudo cp path_from path_to
[03:51] <mathfee1> and then enters password
[03:51] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, You will love 6.06 =)
[03:51] <revilot> wow
[03:51] <revilot> just to move a file
[03:51] <mathfee1> it's to protect you from overriding system file
[03:51] <RandolphCarter> revilot: you're not just moving a file
[03:51] <Xaero_Vincent> Why are Dapper's packages so out of date?
[03:51] <mathfee1> you are moving a file to a system folder
[03:51] <RandolphCarter> revilot: you're altering the way your system works
[03:51] <dsquared> hello all
[03:52] <Shadowinthedark> killuminati: thats wat i wanted to hear! hope cds get delivered soon, gt a class of students i want to show off to
[03:52] <mathfee1> revilot: you can always freely move and folder that you own
[03:52] <Killuminati> HI dsquared =)
[03:52] <revilot> its not working anyway, i couldnt do much harm
[03:52] <SurfnKid> Shadowinthedark, I had Dapper until yesterday, I was running breezy but i had a few problems getting the wifi card to work correctly, you might not have the same problems, I just went back to Breezy and it works 100%
[03:52] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, Have fun with it =)
[03:52] <mathfee1> if you want to see who own the folder, you can turn on "user/group" in nautilus
[03:52] <revilot> this is my first day with linux
[03:52] <firefly> How do I unlock apt-get after accidentally terminating it in the middle of a dist-upgrade?
[03:52] <tareque99> Killuminati, thanks let me try those
[03:52] <revilot> no idea what nautilus is
[03:53] <Killuminati> tareque99, No problem =)
[03:53] <mathfee1> it's your filemanager
[03:53] <Shadowinthedark> KillKilluminati: i mean educate!!!
[03:53] <genti_> bye people
[03:53] <revilot> the file browser?
[03:53] <firefly> :(
[03:53] <firefly> No one knows?
[03:53] <cherwin> nows what?
[03:53] <dsquared> ne samba people in here?
[03:53] <Shadowinthedark> The best way 2 learn is to play
[03:53] <firefly> How to unlock apt-get after accidentally killing it
[03:54] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, I remember how everybody thought I was a hacker for using linux =) Your turn =).
[03:54] <Killuminati> firefly, Restart Ubuntu.
[03:54] <revilot> i just want my internet to work
[03:54] <mathfee1> revilot: go to edit->perference
[03:54] <firefly> Killuminati: That's not the only way...
[03:54] <dsquared> I have discovered that I have 2 smb.conf files - 1 in etc/samba and 1 in usr/share/samba. I only have 1 Nic do I need both of these files or can I delete 1? if so which 1?
[03:54] <aeon17x> I'm about to dist-upgrade to dapper now.
[03:54] <Shadowinthedark> Killuminati: peeps still think i crazy for using cmd prompt
[03:54] <aeon17x> I just have one more thing to ask -
[03:54] <mathfee1> and List View, turn on Owner and group, then you can see who has ownership of each folder
[03:54] <pppoe_dude> firefly, there should be a lock file in the root directory
[03:54] <mathfee1> in list view
[03:55] <aeon17x> Do I also have to include the kubuntu repos in my sources.list if I have kubuntu installed?
[03:55] <Hobbsee> aeon17x: no
[03:55] <Killuminati> firefly, I think it's alot less hastle.
[03:55] <RandolphCarter> firefly: ps -ef | egrep 'apt|dpkg|debconf' | grep -v grep
[03:55] <pppoe_dude> firefly, try /root/.synaptic/lock
[03:55] <mathfee1> revilot: anyway, specifically, where are you trying to copy the file to?
[03:55] <pppoe_dude> firefly, or !/.synaptic/lock
[03:55] <aeon17x> Hobbsee: the packages I need are also in the ubuntu repos?
[03:55] <RandolphCarter> firefly: if nothing running, remove the lock as pppoe_dude says
[03:55] <pppoe_dude> s/!/~
[03:55] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, Make sure you use the live cd first =)
[03:55] <Hobbsee> aeon17x: yes
[03:55] <aeon17x> Hobbsee: I see, thank you
[03:55] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, You might come accross some unforseen complications.
[03:56] <revilot> i think i put some files in the wrong folder
[03:56] <revilot> wnt to move them to another folder
[03:56] <pppoe_dude> firefly, make sure you 'killall synaptic' and 'killall apt-get' frst
[03:56] <mathfee1> can you give me the full path of the destination directory?
[03:56] <Anonycat> I've installed ndiswrapper along with the driver on a computer and manually edited /etc/network/interfaces to make a wlan0 interface appear, but it doesn't work.  Is there a (possibly hardware-specific) line that needs to be in the interfaces file to make it work?
[03:56] <revilot> i wish i ould
[03:56] <Shadowinthedark> Killuminati: not a prob, got some spare machines to play wiv
[03:56] <revilot> this is completely alien to me
[03:56] <tareque99> okay its not working ** Package apache is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:56] <tareque99> **
[03:56] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, Awesomke =)
[03:56] <Sgeo> "Heuristically, almost sure events are those which have zero probability of not occurring though it is still possible that they might not occur."
[03:56] <wendyalison> Hello, may I ask how I can install a bz2 application?
[03:57] <Sgeo> Err
[03:57] <Shadowinthedark> (dell 620 cough cough)
[03:57] <Sgeo> Wrongchat
[03:57] <mathfee1> i don't use ndiswrapper...so I have no clue where you are suppose to drop your driver file
[03:57] <Hobbsee> !tell tareque99 about lamp
[03:57] <Sgeo> *chan
[03:57] <Killuminati> tareque99, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:57] <mathfee1> revilot: I assume you are trying to copy the windows driver file to where it belongs?
[03:57] <Hobbsee> mathfee1: it can go wherever - just point the ndiswrapper -i /path/to/file/file.inf
[03:57] <revilot> im trying to
[03:57] <SurfnKid> Anonycat, what are the instructions you're following
[03:58] <revilot> i cant wrap my brain around wtf im doing
[03:58] <revilot> im flailing around here
[03:58] <firefly> thank you everyone
[03:58] <mathfee1> Hobbsee: thax, again, i have no clue about ndiswrapper, i use ipw2200
[03:58] <Anonycat> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu
[03:58] <revilot> whats that
[03:58] <Shadowinthedark> Killuminati: thou i had them using a apple ] [ yester day
[03:58] <Hobbsee> mathfee1: not a problem
[03:58] <j2daosh> hows everyone doing tonight? got a question (obviously). what file do i need to modify in order to change the default grub boot OS? i would like to make a copy and mod it so if i want to get into windows on the next reboot i can copy that file to the grub, and if i want to boot into ubuntu on the next reboot move the linux boot file back over... ya know what i mean?
[03:58] <Killuminati> =X
[03:58] <Anonycat> I went down to the first example, step 7 to figure out what to put in /etc/network/interfaces, but didn't see any hardware-specific items
[03:58] <mathfee1> revilot, where's file currently at? Home folder?
[03:59] <Anonycat> Should there be one?
[03:59] <Hobbsee> j2daosh: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:59] <tareque99> Killuminati, thanks i got php 4 on now i will give a shot at apache
[03:59] <Hobbsee> j2daosh: but i'm not sure that's what you really want...
[03:59] <Killuminati> tareque99, No problem =)
[03:59] <SurfnKid> ok let me see
[03:59] <j2daosh> why not?
[03:59] <revilot> etc/ndiswrapper/bcml5a
[03:59] <pvd2006> I just had something weird happen.  I went to go do sudo apt-get update and my friends computer actually froze during the process to the point where I couldnt use mouse or keyboard.  It was almost done.
[03:59] <wendyalison> I would like to know how to install a bz2 package, I have the file in my desktop, but then I don't know what I should do with it next, can somebody point me to the right direction?
[03:59] <mathfee1> is this where you file currently is? or where you want it go to?
[04:00] <supertanker13> Hi
[04:00] <revilot> want to move it to etc/ndiswrapper/bcml5
[04:00] <Shadowinthedark> Killuminati: i shld just let them on here, save me doing my job
[04:00] <j2daosh> ahh
[04:00] <Kilter> I am booting ubuntu live on a windows box that I think the hard drive is pooched on.  what disk utility is on the live disk that I can use to check the disk
[04:00] <Hobbsee> j2daosh: well, the /boot/grub/menu.lst is on your linux partition - not on the MBR...i think.  why not just pick one as the default, then select it during boot if you want another OS
[04:00] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, lmao
[04:00] <mathfee1> revilot: exactly, /etc/... is where all the configuration file sits, it should not be easy to try to put stuff in that folder...the question is again, do you know where your folder is how?
[04:00] <mathfee1> now?
[04:00] <SurfnKid> Anonycat, PM me
[04:00] <j2daosh> gotcha... because if i change the boot order to windows i wont be able to remote boot it back to linux because linux is the only os that will allow me to get to the grub folder....
[04:00] <Shadowinthedark> bye every1, wf callin be bck 2 bed!!
[04:01] <SurfnKid> Anonycat, I'll try to help ya out
[04:01] <j2daosh> is there a way around that?
[04:01] <Killuminati> Shadowinthedark, Bye =)
[04:01] <mathfee1> revilot: check below the "Back" button on your file manager, it should list the path
[04:01] <kieranDOA> :(
[04:01] <j2daosh> i have ext2ifs installed on windows... but it wont allow me to write to linux... just run/read stuff from the linux part
[04:01] <Hobbsee> j2daosh: well, not really that so much - but if grub will let you boot either OS, and let you choose at boot time, why would you do anythign else?
[04:01] <revilot> it just has buttons
[04:01] <kieranDOA> Anyone familiar with configuring X on a mac?
[04:01] <revilot> each button has a name in it
[04:01] <mathfee1> yes...what are each button?
[04:01] <revilot> its not like bla/bla/
[04:01] <j2daosh> because im at work...
[04:02] <mathfee1> but that's what it means...
[04:02] <xxx> hello,guys
[04:02] <j2daosh> i cant sit in front of the computer right now to boot to windows...
[04:02] <SurfnKid> hey triple X
[04:02] <revilot> theres what looks like a picture then etc, ndiswrapper, bcml5a
[04:02] <supertanker13> BIG problem, Ubuntu is going nuts! it won't let me log in (when I click my username, or type it in, it says "authentication failure". I managed to boot once, but when I used su and sudo it says "Unknown module, Pam Authenticate" or something
[04:02] <supertanker13> Please help, I really need my Ubuntu system back up
[04:02] <mathfee1> yeah, so that's your destination folder
[04:02] <mathfee1> what about your source folder?
[04:02] <j2daosh> so i was hoping there was a way to change the boot order remotely and do a remote reboot so when it comes up it will come into windows so i can play a game real quick lol
[04:03] <revilot> thats source
[04:03] <revilot> i want the exact same for dest but bcml5
[04:03] <SurfnKid> supertanker13, can you get to a VT
[04:03] <xxx> im a new guy ,i wanna know how can i install software downloaded from web ,anybody help me?thank u
[04:03] <supertanker13> can someone help?
[04:03] <supertanker13> a what?
[04:03] <SAM_theman> speak son
[04:03] <mathfee1> o...you try to rename the folder?
[04:03] <j2daosh> xxx... what software?
[04:03] <supertanker13> SurfnKid: A what?
[04:03] <RandolphCarter> xxx: the chances are good you didn't need to download the program from the web
[04:03] <xxx> j2daosh,opera
[04:03] <j2daosh> VT=virtual terminal....?
[04:03] <RandolphCarter> ah, so you do :P
[04:03] <supertanker13> It won't let me log in
[04:03] <j2daosh> xxx... u using ubuntu?
[04:03] <SurfnKid> supertanker13, CTRL+ALT+F1
[04:03] <Sgeo> What's j2daosh?
[04:04] <supertanker13> I even did ctrl-alt-f1 and It won't let me login
[04:04] <xxx> yea ,im in ubuntu now
[04:04] <SurfnKid> oh
[04:04] <supertanker13> I can boot into recovery mode but am at a lost at what to do
[04:04] <Kilter> can anyone point me at a disk check utility to see if a drive is good/bad?
[04:04] <revilot> mathfee1 i cant do anything to anything
[04:04] <RandolphCarter> xxx: if you downloaded Opera for Ubuntu, just 'sudo dpkg -i *filename*'
[04:04] <j2daosh> ok... system, package manager, search for opera... install
[04:04] <mathfee1> revilot: okay, here's what you do
[04:04] <j2daosh> yeah or what randolph said
[04:04] <RandolphCarter> xxx: it's important you got the Ubuntu Opera package though (should be named .deb)
[04:04] <j2daosh> sgeo... that would be me :)
[04:05] <j2daosh> yeah xx... if you got the .rpm you will need alien
[04:05] <Sgeo> Oh, I thought xxx was referring to a package :/
[04:05] <mathfee1> open a terminal and type (without the quote of course) "sudo mv /etc/ndiswrapper/bcml5a /etc/ndiswrapper/bcml5
[04:05] <McJerry> whats the command to check free drive space
[04:05] <RandolphCarter> j2daosh: if he got the .rpm, best to rm and get the right package
[04:05] <xxx> it's deb file ,should i put it into a special folder first?
[04:05] <j2daosh> sgeo... lol well if he is... im alittle scared ::covers his package::
[04:05] <RandolphCarter> xxx: no need, it'll be handled automagically
[04:05] <supertanker13> can anyone help?
[04:05] <mathfee1> terminal is in Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[04:05] <RandolphCarter> xxx: in fact, in Dapper, you only need to double click on it
[04:05] <SurfnKid> supertanker13, i am not sure, so you just restarted and now it doesnt let you in?
[04:05] <nmsa> hello I have a MFP (samsung SCX4216F) that works under i386 arch; can I use it on my amd64 with ubuntu dapper installaed using amd64 ISO ? I intend to use chroot. I wonder if can be done
[04:06] <purserj> wheres the best place to ask about modifying the breezy livecd
[04:06] <jorvis_> McJerry: you can try "df -m"
[04:06] <xxx> well,i tried that either double click or sudo dpkg ,no response
[04:06] <j2daosh> rand, alien works fine too, although you are right... if there is a ubuntu version its best to get that one as is definately going to work without issue
[04:06] <jorvis_> it will show you used and free space on all devices/drives
[04:06] <RandolphCarter> xxx: no response?  it should at least give you an error message
[04:06] <McJerry> jorvis_ tx
[04:06] <wastrel> yay
[04:07] <jorvis_> McJerry: df -h is actually better
[04:07] <j2daosh> jorvis... df -k
[04:07] <xxx> it told me no opera have installed
[04:07] <mathfee1> can anyone help: i set keyboard-shortcut on gnome for <ctr><alt><shift>T to open a terminal, but nothing happens when I do that...
[04:07] <RandolphCarter> xxx: ah, I see the problem (dependencies) - I'll see if there's a way round this
[04:07] <kieranDOA> Is anyone familiar with configuring X on ubuntu PPC?
[04:07] <revilot> mathfee 1: hey that worked thx
[04:07] <j2daosh> mathfeel... set it to ctrl+t
[04:07] <supertanker13> yes
[04:07] <supertanker13> I cannot boot in or anything
[04:07] <supertanker13> Log in
[04:08] <Warbo> Is there a Wiki page which deals with mounting in general (they all seem to deal with mounting Windows partitions)? I need a Wiki reference for my guide
[04:08] <dallgood> does anyone know why when i maximize windows on a dual monitor setup, my window spans both monitors?  I'm using twinview
[04:08] <revilot> mathfee1: only thing now i have two folder in there with the same name
[04:08] <j2daosh> thats what i did... dont want to confuse the restart keys :)
[04:08] <SAM_theman> Hey people I am having a problem every time I try to launch a game or my important program of all "Blender 3d to do my work" is gives some error???
[04:08] <supertanker13> Oh, and one more thing: In recovery mode when I type startx, it pops up a box and says cannot start HAL daemon
[04:08] <wastrel> ctrl-alt-shift-t works for me
[04:08] <xxx> carter,how can i solve the dependency problem?
[04:08] <SAM_theman> Send you guys the error?
[04:08] <RandolphCarter> xxx: I'm working on it :)
[04:08] <rraajj> I know this is more of an XMMS bug than a Dapper bug, but it could also be a Dapper bug...
[04:08] <mathfee1> revilot: the thing is, if you check carefully..(by running "ls -al" in terminal) you can see everything else except /home/yourusername/
[04:08] <wastrel> i have it set to ctrl-space normally tho
[04:08] <rraajj> I can't seem to get the equalizer working. :(
[04:08] <mathfee1> is pretty much owned by root
[04:08] <mathfee1> and you are not root until you do su or sudo
[04:09] <supertanker13> what the heck is hte HAL daemon?
[04:09] <chris_> i need some help
[04:09] <mathfee1> it's for security purpose
[04:09] <xxx> thank u ,ill wait here for u ,:)
[04:09] <teckfatt> kieranDOA: hello, i just wonder why u choice to use ubuntu on ppc instead of OS X? tz
[04:09] <revilot> i see
[04:09] <mathfee1> but <ctrl>T is such a common key-combo
[04:09] <revilot> how do i delete the empty folder now though
[04:09] <j2daosh> xxx while rand is looking into that... go to the system > administration > synaptic >search for opera and see if there is a package already there
[04:09] <jorvis_> i'm going to install Vista on my windows partition, and I'm sure its going to overwrite my MBR so i can't boot to ubuntu.  What can I do to get it back?
[04:09] <mathfee1> it could easily be mistaken for something else in other program
[04:09] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/771206
[04:09] <supertanker13> can someone help or not?
[04:09] <chris_> i installed fprot and i can not figure out where the executable is to run it
[04:09] <dallgood> does anyone use twinview with multiple monitors?
[04:09] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, what
[04:09] <Warbo> Is there a page on the Ubuntu Wiki which explains how to mount partitions (not specific to windows partitions)?
[04:10] <SurfnKid> supertanker13, Hardware something List, it starts your hardware stuff i think
[04:10] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, stop asking an type
[04:10] <kieranDOA> teckfatt: i dual boot
[04:10] <xxx> j2daosh,no opera there in synaptic
[04:10] <supertanker13> about the not-being-able-to=log-in
[04:10] <SurfnKid> lol
[04:10] <mathfee1> sudo rm foldername
[04:10] <wastrel>  supertanker13 did you try to reboot?
[04:10] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, be a little specific
[04:10] <xxx> i dont think ive installed it
[04:10] <mathfee1> rm=remove of course
[04:10] <wastrel> you can't rm a folder
[04:10] <firefly> X doesn't start after upgrading to dapper...What should I do?
[04:10] <supertanker13> It says "Authentication failure" when I type in my username, it will not
[04:10] <wastrel> rmdir if it's empty
[04:10] <supertanker13> even get to the password stage
[04:10] <SurfnKid> supertanker13, CAPS?
[04:10] <Warbo> supertanker13: Hardware Abstraction Layer. It makes it easy for programs to access hardware in a universal way (not architecture/driver dependent)
[04:10] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, Have you remeber you pssw?
[04:11] <SAM_theman> *remember
[04:11] <supertanker13> It WILL NOT GET TO THE PASSWORD STAGE
[04:11] <mathfee1> revilot: the scheme is the following: sudo followed by command you need to run as root
[04:11] <RandolphCarter> xxx: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15434 - you can run that to fetch and install Opera 9, beta 2
[04:11] <kbrooks> Can someone here please go directly to http://www.ubuntuguide.org?
[04:11] <SurfnKid> Warbo, hehe I knew it was something like that
[04:11] <SAM_theman> hmm..
[04:11] <chris_> can anybody help me
[04:11] <supertanker13> When I type in my username in a console, it gives me an error
[04:11] <RandolphCarter> xxx: paste those commands into a terminal ^_^
[04:11] <teckfatt> wastrel: yes u can rm a folder
[04:11] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, Are u loging into or from a server?
[04:11] <revilot> mathfee 1: only thing is  now both folders are named the same thing
[04:11] <SAM_theman> or connected to one ?
[04:11] <supertanker13> I booted into recovery mode, (yes I remembered my root psswd) and when I typed in "startx" it said the hAL deamon cannot start. No im logging in locally
[04:11] <firefly> What should I do? X doesn't start, I'm stuck with a console
[04:12] <mathfee1> revilot: what do you mean? you can't have two path that's completely the same
[04:12] <SurfnKid> whats a good Ubuntu version for a PIII 500Mhz...  WHoary?
[04:12] <Warbo> SurfnKid: It is implemented by using an advanced AI system. It's correct name is HAL9000 (it was developed by IBM who keep the sister project, SAL9000 to themselves)
[04:12] <protok0l> hello, when i'm in GDM and log in with my user/pass it freezes before loading gnome. i have the latest upgrades.
[04:12] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, Create a new account
[04:12] <xxx> carter ,im trying
[04:12] <teckfatt> wastrel: use rm -r <foldername>
[04:12] <j2daosh> gdm restart
[04:12] <SurfnKid> Warbo, wicked
[04:12] <revilot> oops
[04:12] <revilot> i screwed up
[04:12] <mathfee1> revilot: there is a different right? one is xxxx another is xxxxa
[04:12] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, if you got nothing important on the previous account
[04:12] <supertanker13> After I do that what do I do?
[04:12] <revilot> ya
[04:12] <revilot> how do i rename
[04:12] <Warbo> SurfnKid: (I hope you realise that is not true and is just a reference to 2001:A Space Odyssey)
[04:12] <mathfee1> revilot: btw rm by itself does not remove a folder if the folder is not empty
[04:12] <supertanker13> Yes see there is a slight problem with that
[04:13] <mathfee1> so it's save
[04:13] <SAM_theman> supertanker13, remove the old account that you can't log into
[04:13] <revilot> ok
[04:13] <dallgood> does anyone know how to make dual monitors work properly with twinview?  windows get placed in the center and maximizing windows makes them span both monitors... i hate this
[04:13] <mathfee1> revilot: to rename, use mv
[04:13] <kieranDOA> So theres no one familiar with configuring X on ubuntu PPC?
[04:13] <Killuminati> Does anybody know the htdocs location for apache?
[04:13] <supertanker13> revilot: remaning is actually moving. Type mv oldname newname
[04:13] <mathfee1> revilot: mv oldname newname
[04:13] <supertanker13> Can I use recovery mode to get all my files off of it?
[04:13] <revilot> ah
[04:13] <jorvis_> anyone?  how do I restore grub after windows overwrites the MBR?
[04:13] <mathfee1> revilot: add sudo in front if you need to do as root
[04:13] <SAM_theman> supertanker13,use root man..
[04:13] <revilot> with path?
[04:13] <j2daosh> rev yes
[04:13] <revilot> ok
[04:13] <mathfee1> revilot: sure, mv /etc/folder1 /etc/folder2
[04:13] <SAM_theman> supertanker13,log into root and cd /home....
[04:13] <Warbo> Are there no official documents online which explain mount in a non-windows-partition way?
[04:13] <revilot> ah ok
[04:14] <Fr0Gs> hey all
[04:14] <Killuminati> Does anybody know the htdocs location for apache?
[04:14] <Fr0Gs> wats up
[04:14] <supertanker13> Okay...I'll do that. I gotta go soon...
[04:14] <Killuminati> Fr0Gs, Hey =)
[04:14] <SAM_theman> supertanker13,are u feeling me ??
[04:14] <j2daosh> ex "mv foo.bar /directory/fu.bar
[04:14] <revilot> thx a lot fellas
[04:14] <firefly> I need to find or generate an xorg.conf file somehow...anyone got any tips?
[04:14] <jorvis_> Warbo: man mount ?
[04:14] <SurfnKid> Warbo, I was beginning to believve that
[04:14] <supertanker13> what?
[04:14] <mathfee1> revilot: np, just remember, it SHOULD be non-trivial when messing with config file
[04:14] <webdesigner> Hi
[04:14] <SAM_theman> supertanker13,are u feeling me ??(understanding me)
[04:14] <j2daosh> or ex "mv /directory/foo.bar /dir/fu.bar"
[04:14] <Warbo> jorvis_: It is not for me, it is for a Wiki page I am writing
[04:14] <teckfatt> jorvis_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub
[04:14] <Fr0Gs> i installed the ATi driver and when i type fglrxinfo it says Mesa instead of ati :S
[04:14] <supertanker13> Yes
[04:14] <Warbo> jorvis_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:14] <Killuminati> Does anybody know the htdocs location for apache?
[04:14] <jorvis_> teckfatt: thanks.
[04:15] <revilot> ok thx ill probably be back in a minute after i screw something else up
[04:15] <mathfee1> setting <control>t doesn't work either
[04:15] <firefly> Nevermind...I solved my problem
[04:15] <Warbo> jorvis_: Woops
[04:15] <firefly> thanks anyway
[04:15] <firefly> quit
[04:15] <supertanker13> Make new account, copy all my stuff with Root, remove old account
[04:15] <supertanker13> correct?
[04:15] <firefly> er
[04:15] <xxx> carter,can terminal support cut/paste funcion?
[04:15] <webdesigner> Killiminati: Yes I do
[04:15] <Killuminati> webdesigner, May I please know what it is?
[04:15] <SAM_theman> supertanker13,Yup
[04:15] <RandolphCarter> xxx: yes, you can either highlight it all in the browser, then middle click in the terminal, or do a copy/paste
[04:15] <SAM_theman> supertanker13,You are the star now
[04:15] <Fr0Gs> can anyone help me setup ati driver
[04:15] <SAM_theman> Fr0Gs, speak
[04:15] <mathfee1> FroGs: what's the problem?
[04:16] <SAM_theman> Fr0Gs, yeah
[04:16] <webdesigner> Killuminati: Var/www
[04:16] <supertanker13> k. Cya
[04:16] <Killuminati> webdesigner, Thanks =)
[04:16] <Warbo> xxx: ctrl-c, ctrl-x and ctrl-v don't do copy/cut/paste in a terminal though
[04:16] <Coldtoast> hi all
[04:16] <xxx> ok,thanku warbo
[04:16] <DynaStab> yos, what is that awesome program for mounting ftp sftp
[04:16] <webdesigner> Killuminati: Yep
[04:16] <RandolphCarter> xxx: ah, yes - it's shit+ctl+v to paste
[04:16] <Warbo> I suppose I will have to write a guide to mount as well does it?
[04:16] <DynaStab> it comes with ubuntu but i dont knwo the real name
[04:16] <Coldtoast> I'm in the process of migrating, as much as possible, from Windows to linux
[04:16] <mathfee1> does anyone here uses davfs?
[04:17] <catch23> hi, is there anyway to force version magic on a compiled module?  I could only compile the module under gcc-3.4, but of course when I try to load it, it complains that the magic needs to be gcc-4.0.  is there a way to force it to load the module, or fake the magic?
[04:17] <Coldtoast> and the machine I'm doing that with has an ICH5 sata raid controller
[04:17] <kbrooks> um
[04:17] <Warbo> mathfee1: devfs? It has been replaced in 2.6 kernel with udev
[04:17] <teckfatt> Coldtoast: u can do it
[04:17] <bluefoxicy> how annoying.
[04:17] <Coldtoast> is it a bad idea to even USE that controller?
[04:17] <Killuminati> How do I spell natilus correctly?
[04:17] <bluefoxicy> I can't log in
[04:17] <xxx> wow,carter,it's amazing
[04:17] <kbrooks> the ubuntu guide has been updated :-)
[04:17] <wastrel> shift-insert control-insert
[04:17] <bluefoxicy> but gnome-session starts gnome
[04:17] <mathfee1> warbo: no...davfs for webdav
[04:17] <RandolphCarter> catch23: that would require the kind of magic Moses had
[04:17] <RandolphCarter> xxx: :D
[04:17] <Warbo> mathfee1: OK, sorry
[04:17] <bluefoxicy> gdm claims it can't start my session.. hmm.
[04:17] <Killuminati> How do I spell natilus correctly?
[04:17] <catch23> RandolphCarter: meaning, it's impossible eh?
[04:17] <SurfnKid> nautilus
[04:17] <xxx> warbo ,shift+ctrl+v can paste in terminal
[04:17] <kbrooks> see http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:17] <ardy> I'm surprise that Xubuntu is more faster then KDE n GNOME..
[04:18] <catch23> RandolphCarter: any way to force loading a module regardless of the version info?
[04:18] <DynaStab> ardy, where have you been haha
[04:18] <RandolphCarter> catch23: mixing gcc major versions = bad
[04:18] <Warbo> xxx: I always use select/middle click :)
[04:18] <Coldtoast> teckfatt, I'm a bit worried about the fact the controller isn't hardware raid
[04:18] <navreet> man, anyone upgrade to dapper (64-bit) lately?
[04:18] <navreet> i am having a tough time
[04:18] <Coldtoast> also, if I do use it, how bad of an idea is it to use reiserfs?
[04:18] <navreet> stuck with broken ass packages
[04:18] <DynaStab> can anyone tell me the name of the 'remote system' app that comes with ubuntu for mounting ssh and ftp etc
[04:18] <navreet> [ia32-libs]
[04:18] <tested2> Im having trouble getting ubuntu to boot after the install, it appears not to be able to mount the root files system. I have a sata drive and according to the partition tool the drive is /dev/sda1
[04:18] <webdesigner> ubotu: Who is using opitwin username?
[04:18] <ubotu> webdesigner: what are you talking about?
[04:19] <mathfee1> ardy: is it just my impression that xce is more lightweighted than kde and gnome?
[04:19] <xxx> middle?my mouse doesnt have a middle
[04:19] <RandolphCarter> xxx: you can press left+right at the same time
[04:19] <Kyral> mathfee1: its true
[04:19] <ardy> DynaStab, I just try it about 2 days ago... its awesome
[04:19] <kbrooks> DynaStab: places > connect to server
[04:19] <DynaStab> whats it called
[04:19] <DynaStab> process name
[04:19] <Killuminati> How do I move files as root?
[04:19] <catch23> RandolphCarter: sorta got no choice for this ugly wireless usb device...  not many choices available
[04:19] <kbrooks> DynaStab: i don't know, but its in nautilus
[04:19] <tested2> sudo mv
[04:19] <mathfee1> Killuminati: sudo mv
[04:19] <DynaStab> kbrooks, can you load it and do ap s aux
[04:19] <ardy> is this new or renew from previous Xubuntu ??
[04:19] <Chihork> does Ubuntu rely upon initrd to configure alsa (aside from module loading)?  I'm having some real trouble getting ALSA to work after configuring my own kernel.
[04:19] <RandolphCarter> catch23: ndiswrapper may be a good bet?
[04:19] <DynaStab> ps aux
[04:19] <kbrooks> DynaStab: i doubt a new process is started
[04:19] <Killuminati> But I want to do it in my file browser
[04:20] <DynaStab> kbrooks, i gaurantee it
[04:20] <navreet> Preparing to replace ia32-libs 1.4ubuntu4 (using .../ia32-libs_1.4ubuntu19_amd64.deb) ...
[04:20] <navreet> dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/bin/ldd' with
[04:20] <navreet>   different file `/usr/bin/ldd.amd64', not allowed
[04:20] <navreet> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_1.4ubuntu19_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[04:20] <navreet>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2...............Errors were encountered while processing:.................... /var/cache/apt/archives/ia32-libs_1.4ubuntu19_amd64.deb................E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)  ........... A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[04:20] <kbrooks> DynaStab: h/o
[04:20] <catch23> RandolphCarter: aye, that's the only other option...
[04:20] <Coldtoast> Killuminati: run the file rowser as root then
[04:20] <Coldtoast> browser
[04:20] <tested2> killuminata from terminal type sudo nautilus
[04:20] <DynaStab> ban is in order
[04:20] <Killuminati> navreet, Please use pastebin in the future.
[04:20] <Killuminati> tested2, THANKYOU! I had problems spelling nautilus =P
[04:20] <navreet> Killuminati, k, thanks
[04:20] <ardy> is Xubuntu is this new or renew from previous Xubuntu ??
[04:21] <Coldtoast> any of you using reiserfs?
[04:21] <mathfee1> ardy: what do you mean?
[04:21] <mathfee1> coldtoast: I am
[04:21] <wolly_wotsit> hey guys
[04:21] <wolly_wotsit> quick question
[04:21] <Coldtoast> ever had probs mathfee1?
[04:21] <ardy> mathfee1, is xubuntu is new ??
[04:21] <mathfee1> coldtoast: nope, i have another gentoo machine, running two years straight without problem
[04:21] <tested2> I cant get ubuntu to boot after a install, I did a erase disk install went fine now it gets stuck on mounting the root file system on /dev/sda1
[04:21] <wolly_wotsit> can i update my breezy to dapper without having to download/burn a disk?
[04:21] <MagicFab> ~seen MagicFab
[04:21] <wastrel> gentoo eh
[04:21] <kbrooks> DynaStab: ok, i diffed the 2 process lists and apart from some erm crazy changes, i have this
[04:22] <wastrel> i like me some gentoo but got tired of waiting for things to compile
[04:22] <mathfee1> ardy: it's just *buntu that uses a different desktop environment, am i not correct?
[04:22] <wastrel> if i had a faster processor
[04:22] <Coldtoast> ok. I want to use it with sata raid but the controller I'm using is ICH5 which isn't hardware RAID
[04:22] <kbrooks> DynaStab: +kbrooks   7155  7.9  4.5  34584 11624 ?        S    18:20   0:00 nautilus-connect-server
[04:22] <catch23> RandolphCarter: well looks like it still works okay if I force loading it...  i'm using this belkin wireless usb dongle, using the rt73 drivers.  works great now :P
[04:22] <mathfee1> wastrel: compiling time never was a problem for me, i just let it run in background
[04:22] <wolly_wotsit> anyone?
[04:22] <ardy> so meaning that xubuntu developers is the best... right, they invent new for ubuntu..
[04:22] <kbrooks> DynaStab: where the + means added to y
[04:22] <revilot> mathfee1: ok im retarded.  ive got files in etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/bcwml5 that i need in etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5
[04:22] <wolly_wotsit> can i update my breezy to dapper without having to download/burn a disk?
[04:22] <mathfee1> wastres: it could take many hours (try emerge -e system after gcc upgrade)
[04:23] <RandolphCarter> catch23: ack :/ good luck with that
[04:23] <wastrel> mathfee1:  i'm impatient :]   also have slow comptuer
[04:23] <kbrooks> wolly_wotsit: you can download & mount the disk and update from that
[04:23] <DynaStab> kbrooks, thanks
[04:23] <Membury> Wow, that's a lot of people on this channel.
[04:23] <Coldtoast> ok. how about captiventfs? anybody use that?
[04:23] <dallgood> does anyone know how to make dual monitors work properly with twinview and gnome?  windows get placed at the division of the two monitors and maximizing windows makes them span both monitors... i hate this
[04:23] <kbrooks> DynaStab: seems like i learn a new thing every day when i help a person
[04:23] <wolly_wotsit> kbrooks: are there any instructions on how to do this?
[04:24] <soop> coldtoast, what are you trying to do
[04:24] <kbrooks> wolly_wotsit: but you don't have to
[04:24] <DynaStab> kbrooks, im a robot
[04:24] <ardy> does anybody know what to install in the server to make it acting like school server which is to control the workstation in the school computers?
[04:24] <soop> ardy: huh?
[04:24] <kbrooks> DynaStab: i dont believe you
[04:24] <mathfee1> revilot: sudo mv /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/bcwml5/* /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/
[04:24] <soop> you mean remote desktop/vnc?
[04:24] <noiesmo> ardy, samba
[04:24] <RandolphCarter> ardy: you'd be best with a desktop install for that
[04:24] <kbrooks> ardy: try edubuntu
[04:24] <mathfee1> wolly_wotsit: sudo apt-get distupgrade
[04:24] <wolly_wotsit> kbrooks: you've lost me
[04:24] <wolly_wotsit> oh
[04:24] <DynaStab> wii
[04:24] <kbrooks> wolly_wotsit: therer are 2 choices
[04:24] <AreEmmKa2> Hi everyone--
[04:24] <planetcall> when system boots up it stops and says my superblock is corrupted and i need to run this utility with -rebuild-sb.   Which utility is it talking about ?
[04:24] <opitwin2> ubotu: the server say that my regular user name, opitwin, is in use and it isn't
[04:24] <SurfnKid> whats the difference between Kubuntu and Hoary
[04:25] <ubotu> opitwin2: what are you talking about?
[04:25] <torrentwoes> where can i find a troubleshooter for xgl?
[04:25] <Killuminati> How do I chmod?
[04:25] <ardy> kbrooks, edubuntu ?? is that some kind of server or what ??
[04:25] <mathfee1> or something like that...
[04:25] <revilot> mathfee1: thank you sir
[04:25] <kbrooks> ardy: #edubuntu
[04:25] <Killuminati> ardy, It's Ubuntu for students
[04:25] <wastrel> Killuminati:  carefully
[04:25] <Killuminati> wastrel, =P but how?
[04:25] <eugman> Is kino supposed to be able to imort mpg's?
[04:25] <wastrel> Killuminati:  you can change perms with nautilus
[04:25] <opitwin2> ubotu: kick opitwin
[04:25] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, opitwin2
[04:25] <Membury> Does anybody know about ODBC issues using Dapper and OpenOffice.org 2 on AMD64?
[04:25] <Killuminati> wastrel, Thanks =)
[04:25] <Coldtoast> soop: well, I have some stuff on an NTFS partition I need access to from Linux. I don't particularly want to use FAT32 so I was thinking of using  captive ntfs
[04:25] <planetcall> it says difference between bootsector and its backup
[04:25] <noiesmo> ardy, are you looking for domain conroller ie samba or desktop systems
[04:25] <planetcall> help !
[04:26] <opitwin2> ubotu: Reset username opitwin please!
[04:26] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, opitwin2
[04:26] <Coldtoast> so the data is accessible from my other machine no matter what OS this one's using
[04:26] <AreEmmKa2> I followed these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-af2466f44cedc963180b11fb2cc9400c67f45ac9 and Rhythmbox still won't recognize m4a files... is there anything else I need to do?
[04:26] <opitwin2> ubotu: I hat you bot
[04:26] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, opitwin2
[04:26] <ardy> Killuminati, what I mean is I'm a administrator in ICT department is which responsible to monitor the student working on their pc
[04:26] <Hobbsee> opitwin2: what are you trying to do?
[04:26] <kbrooks> opitwin2: he's a bot
[04:26] <kbrooks> opitwin2: a bot is a bot is a bot.
[04:26] <wolly_wotsit> kbrooks: I get E: Invalid operation distupgrade
[04:26] <Coldtoast> sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:27] <ardy> noiesmo, yes that right, I want to set this school server as domain controller. so that every workstation is pointing their DNS  to the ubuntu server
[04:27] <firefly> When I run startx it gives me a gray screen and a cursor but nothing else not even a term window
[04:27] <Killuminati> ardy, So install Network monitoring services
[04:27] <firefly> Anyone know what I should do?
[04:27] <opitwin2> kbrooks: my regular username(opitwin) isn't in use but the server says it is in use and I want to use my username
[04:27] <mathfee1> wolly_wotsit: i think it's dist-upgrade with a dash
[04:27] <ardy> Killuminati, so what do I have to type in command to get that monitoring service?
[04:27] <xxx> carter,i did sth wrong
[04:27] <kbrooks> opitwin2: whois it
[04:27] <firefly> I do get an error from X saying someting about GLcore
[04:28] <opitwin2> kbrooks: what?
[04:28] <toomanyKwestions> anyone here use ubuntu on an ibook?
[04:28] <gyro_54> Lost the sound from my sound port on my Audigy2 card but the sound is still there from the headphone port? Any ideas??
[04:28] <wolly_wotsit> mathfeel: great, so what do i do when it's finished upgrading?
[04:28] <noiesmo> ardy, http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/samba-pdc.html
[04:28] <AreEmmKa2> toomany: tryin to ;)
[04:29] <Coldtoast> gyro_54: sudo alsa-ctrl?
[04:29] <torrentwoes> my window borders disappear when i try to run xgl.. how can i fix this?
[04:29] <Coldtoast> or is it alsactrl?
[04:29] <firefly> Anyone know what I should do about this?
[04:29] <toomanyKwestions> yeah, i'm having wireless troubles
[04:29] <Killuminati> ardy, Novell comes with a nice monitoring program
[04:29] <opitwin2> !install
[04:29] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[04:29] <wolly_wotsit> linux sucks for wirelss
[04:29] <toomanyKwestions> AreEmmKa2: what's your hardware?
[04:29] <navreet> dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/bin/ldd' with different file `/usr/bin/ldd.amd64', not allowed
[04:29] <AreEmmKa2> iBook g4  spring 2005
[04:29] <navreet> how can I fix that?
[04:29] <jorvis_> wolly_wotsit: mine works great.
[04:30] <ardy> noiesmo, ok I try that later thanks...
[04:30] <toomanyKwestions> cool
[04:30] <AreEmmKa2> this helped: http://www.fisica.unipa.it/~lavaget/ubuntuae/
[04:30] <toomanyKwestions> i'm back with a g3500
[04:30] <noiesmo> wolly_wotsit, dont blame linux blame the wifi manucatures for not producing drivers like they do for M$
[04:30] <ardy> Killuminati, so do I have to type sudo apt-get ??
[04:30] <toomanyKwestions> G3-500, that si
[04:30] <wolly_wotsit> jorvis: yes so does mine, but it was a bitch to get working
[04:30] <opitwin2> AreEmmKa2: I helped you last night
[04:30] <AreEmmKa2> ah, then you don't need that
[04:30] <wolly_wotsit> I'm not blaming anyone
[04:30] <wolly_wotsit> i'm merely stating
[04:31] <AreEmmKa2> opitwin2: yeah, thanks-- I still haven't gotten the trackpad working nicely, but I borrowed a mouse from work
[04:31] <Killuminati> ardy, You'll have to buy it but nothing comes near it in functionality.
[04:31] <firefly> I get a grey screen with a cursor and when I try to run apps from another console it says it can't open the display
[04:31] <toomanyKwestions> AreEmmKa2: yep, i guess not
[04:31] <opitwin2> AreEmmKa2: is it working?
[04:31] <ardy> Killuminati, oohh.... no open source?
[04:31] <xxx> carter ,r u there
[04:31] <firefly> So I'm guessing X is started but no window manager...how can I start a window manager?
[04:31] <firefly> Preferably fvwm
[04:31] <AreEmmKa2> yeah, the mouse works fine, but I still want to solve the trackpad thing
[04:31] <Killuminati> ardy, Unfortunately no =(
[04:32] <ardy> ooo
[04:32] <opitwin2> AreEmmKa2: That might be in the computer's config somewhere
[04:32] <Membury> How does one file a bug report?
[04:32] <AreEmmKa2> right.
[04:32] <AreEmmKa2> my main concern at the moment is getting AAC files to play though ;)
[04:32] <bdmp> I am trying to to install languages and i am getting a "could not resolve jp.archive.ubuntu.com" error. I just did a distro upgrade so I am sure that the repo is good. How do I fix this?
[04:33] <ardy> btw does anybody know how to setup printer hp deskjet 1280, which is in sharing... I dont know how to configure it..
[04:33] <wolly_wotsit> so once i have run dist-upgrade, what do i need to do to get dapper working?
[04:33] <firefly> Nobody knows how to start a window manager? :(
[04:33] <opitwin2> ardy: yes, I do
[04:33] <gyro_54> Coldtoast: All controls are on and working
[04:33] <AreEmmKa2> I followed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-af2466f44cedc963180b11fb2cc9400c67f45ac9
[04:33] <etement> am I the only one with this problem, or can you only run like 1 sound instance at a time?
[04:33] <ardy> opitwin2,  help me with this please
[04:33] <AreEmmKa2> and I can decode them at the command-line with faad
[04:33] <etement> eg no flash + music player
[04:33] <Ophiocus> what is a .toast file format? what do i open it with?
[04:33] <etement> I'm not sure... but never questioned it until now
[04:33] <AreEmmKa2> but Rythmbox won't recognize them as audio files
[04:34] <opitwin2> ardy: go to system - Administration - Printing
[04:34] <toomanyKwestions> does anyone have a really on-again off-again wireless connection with a home router?
[04:34] <DarkMageZ> etement, no you are not, there are instructions on how to fix this issue @ restrictedformats in the wiki
[04:34] <ardy> opitwin2, currently I'm using XUBUNTU
[04:34] <firefly> Ophiocus: a toaster?
[04:34] <etement> I've looked before I came to IRC. Do you know exactly where?
[04:34] <DarkMageZ> !tell etement about restrictedformats
[04:34] <wolly_wotsit> so once i have run dist-upgrade, what do i need to do to get dapper working?
[04:34] <opitwin2> ardy: Well can you open up the printing stuff
[04:34] <Ophiocus> firefly: as in?
[04:35] <etement> thanks a lot
[04:35] <etement> looking into it
[04:35] <gyro_54> Coldtoast: alsa-ctrl command not found
[04:35] <pvd2006> what is the graphic version of the device manager in xubuntu?
[04:35] <ardy> opitwin2,  no it says CUP
[04:35] <firefly> Can anyone help me? :(
[04:35] <opitwin2> ardy: just a minute
[04:35] <DarkMageZ> firefly, not until we know what your problem is, go ahead and ask, and hopefully someone will know
[04:36] <uXp> is someone able to help me for 5 minutes?
[04:36] <SurfnKid> what up
[04:36] <firefly> DarkMageZ: X starts with a grey screen and a cursor but nothing else...I can't start a window manager
[04:36] <uXp> its about installing a theme my buddy made
[04:36] <uXp> but ive tried unpacking and drag and drop nothing works
[04:36] <paul_> Anyone know if there is a way to change the server port settings in evolution? I was curious because I did a little research and found some old articles where you could change smtp server port settings by playing a colon behind the server address then place the new port after the colon. I have had no success in changing my nntp server port settings that way.
[04:36] <ardy> opitwin2, I got printing system settings under settings and when I click on it it says CUP
[04:36] <DarkMageZ> firefly, have you been playing around with the configuration? or is this after the installation
[04:37] <kbrooks> who are you, firefly
[04:37] <etement> DarkMageZ, I have all of that installed. It's a sound problem, like I can't do VoIP + Game sounds, or Flash music + Music player, at the same time
[04:37] <torrentwoes> XGL anyone?
[04:37] <firefly> DarkMageZ: After running apt-get dist-upgrade to dapper
[04:37] <uXp> Surf?
[04:37] <firefly> kbrooks: who am i? I'm nobody
[04:37] <Rede_> if anyone is still around who gave me advice about compiling from source earlier, i just got it working, thanks! i just had to use aptitude instead of apt-get to get the files packages i needed to install properly
[04:38] <DarkMageZ> firefly, there we go, now someone might have some idea on what your issue might be :)
[04:38] <etement> is that just me. Can you guys have sound in flash while listening to music, or like voip + music? it'll only let me do one at a time.
[04:38] <opitwin2> ardy: Are you using Dapper
[04:38] <ardy> opitwin2, yes I do
[04:38] <pppoe_dude> etement, you need to change your output device in one of them
[04:38] <pppoe_dude> etement, make them match up
[04:38] <pppoe_dude> etement, however, VOIP and music is problematic
[04:39] <etement> oh?
[04:39] <opitwin2> ardy: Do you think you could switch to the gnome desktop real quick?
[04:39] <adamant1988> does anyone know any good games to play that I can download for Ubuntu? It doesn't matter if they're in the repos
[04:39] <pppoe_dude> etement, because of sound input, etc.
[04:39] <ardy> opitwin2, I have not install gnome :(
[04:39] <etement> so Voip, like Teamspeak + gaming quake, won't give me sound on both. :(
[04:39] <DarkMageZ> etement, so u have installed the alsa-oss package? then altered /etc/firefox/firefoxrc to have FIREFOX_DSP="aoss" in it?
[04:39] <opitwin2> adamant1988: go to packages.ubuntu.com
[04:39] <etement> yeah
[04:40] <opitwin2> ardy: open up a terminal
[04:40] <adamant1988> ok :)
[04:40] <ardy> opitwin2, ok then
[04:40] <DarkMageZ> etement, what media player are u using?
[04:40] <etement> Rhythmbox
[04:40] <opitwin2> ardy: type in  sudo apt-get install gnome
[04:40] <luke> can someone help me with firefox under am64 please?
[04:40] <DarkMageZ> etement, have u restarted firefox after making the changes :)
[04:40] <uXp> SurfnKid: Hello?
[04:40] <firefly> Nobody answers my questions in here :(
[04:40] <ardy> opitwin2, it says 318MB to download
[04:40] <gyro_54> Coldtoast: Any ideas?
[04:40] <luke> I had  gone through the wiki article that set it up under 32bit so I could use flash, but i just update - upgraded my system and now it seems to have disappeared
[04:40] <etement> indeed I have.
[04:41] <pppoe_dude> firefly, what was the question?
[04:41] <opitwin2> ardy: Is your connection fast enough?
[04:41] <pppoe_dude> firefly, re X?
[04:41] <ardy> opitwin2, about 614K
[04:41] <firefly> pppoe_dude: I just did a dist-upgrade and X starts with a grey screen and a cursor but no window manager starts
[04:41] <opitwin2> ardy: How fast is download speed?
[04:42] <ardy> opitwin2,  about 24k
[04:42] <kayde> i neeed help with intalling the driver from a cd
[04:42] <pppoe_dude> firefly, are you using gnome?
[04:42] <DarkMageZ> etement, that's very odd...
[04:42] <firefly> pppoe_dude: fvwm
[04:42] <etement> I know this is not windows, but what would be the problem with no Voip + gamage (sound)? would it be bad written drivers?
[04:42] <ardy> opitwin2,  now 48Kb
[04:42] <opitwin2> It will take a couple of hours probably
[04:42] <pppoe_dude> firefly, are you on another computer now?
[04:43] <firefly> pppoe_dude: No I'm in a virtual console using irssi
[04:43] <opitwin2> ardy: it will probably take a couple of hours
[04:43] <pppoe_dude> firefly, ok. the way to do it for now is to type (from a virtual console) "xterm --display :0"
[04:43] <ardy> opitwin2, yeah
[04:43] <pppoe_dude> then go to the display
[04:43] <etement> I wouldn't think it would be a problem to do something like voip + game (sound in game), however it just hit me a few hours ago and I can't seem to find the answer, other than guess that it's bad drivers
[04:44] <pppoe_dude> firefly, and type fvwm-session
[04:44] <tareque99> how do i test if php4 is working or not?
[04:44] <detectiveinspekt> I have shared a nfs folder and set the hostname I want to view the files from? But I can't see the share no the other computer
[04:44] <firefly> pppoe_dude: It says it can't open because DISPLAY is not set
[04:44] <opitwin2> After you have installed gnome go to  System - Administration - Printing  and Double Click "New Printer" and set it up, the driver is already there
[04:44] <pppoe_dude> firefly, oops, xterm -display :0
[04:44] <ardy> things that worry me with this Xubuntu, its not easy to use it.. right?
[04:44] <SurfnKid> do you guys think Dapper is too heavy for a Pentium III 500Mhz 128MB RAM?
[04:44] <thenerdsangle> hi...i'm trying to more or less use an ubuntu box as a wifi AP. how can i set that up? i tried to find stuff online, but i must just suck at googling...
[04:45] <spikeb> SurfnKid: no.
[04:45] <SurfnKid> spikeb, youre joking :| cool
[04:45] <spikeb> SurfnKid: if it's too slow for you, try xubuntu instead.
[04:45] <opitwin2> ardy: After you have installed gnome go to  System - Administration - Printing  and Double Click "New Printer" and set it up, the driver is already there
[04:45] <pppoe_dude> firefly, anything?
[04:45] <SurfnKid> spikeb, gonna install it now
[04:45] <detectiveinspekt> SurfnKid, I have ubuntu install with the same specs, its pretty good
[04:45] <SurfnKid> detectiveinspekt, whoa
[04:45] <SurfnKid> awesome guys
[04:45] <firefly> pppoe_dude: One sec
[04:45] <ardy> opitwin2, ooo driver for hp deskjet 1280 is already there... wow that easy man..
[04:46] <SurfnKid> Its a VAIO Ill have to check it out
[04:46] <ardy> Xubuntu - I cant go into network places.. I dont know where to click
[04:46] <spikeb> detectiveinspekt: do you run the whole gnome desktop and all that?
[04:46] <firefly> pppoe_dude: I got the xterm...but fvwm-session doesn't exist
[04:46] <SurfnKid> whats the diff betwen Xubuntu and Hoary
[04:46] <detectiveinspekt> yes
[04:46] <uXp> anyone can help step by step installign a certain theme?
[04:46] <opitwin2> ardy: to uninstall the gnome desktop environment when you are done, open up a terminal and type in  sudo apt-get uninstall gnome  - if you want too.
[04:46] <spikeb> xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce instead of gnome
[04:46] <neoxan> with xfce beta
[04:46] <neoxan> :(
[04:46] <pppoe_dude> firefly, i don't have fvwm, but try pressing fvwm[tab]  and tell me which programs you see
[04:46] <neoxan> it got still some problems
[04:46] <uXp> anyone can help step by step installign a certain theme?
[04:47] <neoxan> and xfburn alpha :o)
[04:47] <neoxan> im wondering why its in xubuntu
[04:47] <ardy> opitwin2, I didnt realise that, but my printer is in another computer that being share.. is that easy to configure??
[04:47] <neoxan> as allpha version
[04:47] <gyro_54> Lost the sound from my sound port on my Audigy2 card but the sound is still there from the headphone port? Any ideas?? tried sudo alsa-ctrl but command not found?
[04:47] <opitwin2> ardy: yes, very easy
[04:47] <buzzed> any suggested games?
[04:47] <pppoe_dude> firefly, might wanna try just 'fvwm'
[04:47] <thenerdsangle> i'm trying to more or less use an ubuntu box as a wifi AP. how can i set that up?
[04:47] <ardy> opitwin2, ok then, I install gnome then unistall it after done
[04:47] <detectiveinspekt> One problem though is searching for files, its very slow, must be just a linear search
[04:47] <specialbuddy> www.google.com
[04:48] <firefly> pppoe_dude: A lot....fvwm, fvwm2, fvwm-config, fvwm-root....some more
[04:48] <ardy> opitwin2, thanks man
[04:48] <SurfnKid> spikeb, xfce is lighter than gnome or something
[04:48] <pppoe_dude> firefly, try fvwm2-session
[04:48] <specialbuddy> whats a good program for detecting wireless signal
[04:48] <pppoe_dude> firefly, or just fvwm / fvwm2
[04:48] <eugman> Anyone know if there is anything I can do so I can edit a mpg file?
[04:48] <spikeb> SurfnKid: very much so
[04:48] <spikeb> SurfnKid: and a LOT faster
[04:48] <ardy> does anybody know how to go to network places in xubuntu ???
[04:48] <firefly> pppoe_dude: No fvwm2-session, just fvwm2
[04:48] <pppoe_dude> firefly, try that
[04:48] <detectiveinspekt> Can anyone explain why I can't see a nfs share on my other computer?
[04:48] <specialbuddy> whats a good wifi program
[04:48] <specialbuddy> ?
[04:48] <opitwin2> ardy: yep, glad to help
[04:49] <firefly> pppoe_dude: It says another WM is running and to try -replace
[04:49] <firefly> pppoe_dude: when i try fvwm -replace X dies
[04:49] <SurfnKid> spikeb, ill try Dapper and if it bogs ill go with xubuntu
[04:49] <pppoe_dude> firefly, do you have any wm's running?
[04:49] <ardy> does anybody know how to go to network places in xubuntu ???
[04:49] <spikeb> not offhand..
[04:50] <SurfnKid> specialbuddy, not WIFi-Radar
[04:50] <firefly> pppoe_dude: Not that I can see...It just looks like X with a white arrow cursor and a grey background...nothing else
[04:50] <pppoe_dude> firefly, try (from virtual terminal) 'sudo killall X & sudo killall gdm'
[04:50] <specialbuddy> yeah
[04:50] <eugman> Specialbuddy, I think network manager might be depending on what you need.
[04:50] <specialbuddy> that one does suck Surf
[04:50] <specialbuddy> I'm going to get Kwififinder I think
[04:50] <specialbuddy> I just got an antenna
[04:50] <pppoe_dude> firefly, then from virtual terminal try "X :0 & xterm -display :0 & fvwm2"
[04:50] <pppoe_dude> firefly, have you tried doing just a 'startx'?
[04:51] <firefly> pppoe_dude: No processes killed
[04:51] <thenerdsangle> can i get some help forwarding a wired connection through wifi?
[04:51] <firefly> pppoe_dude: Doing startx is how I got X in the first place, otherwise there is just console
[04:51] <pppoe_dude> firefly, try "X :0 & xterm -display :0 & fvwm2"
[04:51] <erickmgj> alguien que hable espaol
[04:51] <SurfnKid> specialbuddy, kiwkfinder in linux?
[04:51] <pppoe_dude> oops
[04:51] <spikeb> !es
[04:51] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:52] <pppoe_dude> firefly, skip the &fvwm part, put that in xterm
[04:52] <specialbuddy> yeah, SurfnKid
[04:52] <pppoe_dude> firefly, pretty much same as before, but with a fresh X
[04:52] <bdmp_> wolly_wotsit: did you get that sorted? the upgrade?
[04:52] <SurfnKid> cool
[04:52] <specialbuddy> are you a websurfer or a wave surfer?
[04:52] <kieranDOA> Is anyone familiar with configuring X on ubuntu PPC?
[04:52] <firefly> pppoe_dude: Worked! :-D
[04:53] <pppoe_dude> firefly, good
[04:53] <ardy> what is the different for xubuntu and edubuntu? is edubuntu for student or for teacher or for people for the 1st time using ubuntu ???
[04:53] <spikeb> kieranDOA: should be simple - you'll either have ati or nvidia for video
[04:53] <spikeb> ardy: i think it's for students
[04:53] <firefly> pppoe_dude: Will I have to do all that every time I boot?
[04:53] <spikeb> ardy: and kids
[04:53] <pppoe_dude> firefly, now mess with /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[04:53] <ardy> spikeb, so I'm not student, then I dont have to use it
[04:53] <ardy> heheh
[04:53] <erickmgj> no puedo entrar al canal #ubuntu
[04:53] <SurfnKid> spikeb, so Dapper on a 500 should run ok, ill ggive it a shot
[04:53] <kieranDOA> spikeb: Yes, i do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it errors "no screens detected" and i have to restore my x conf
[04:54] <spikeb> hmm
[04:54] <spikeb> kieranDOA: that's odd
[04:54] <markgrif> Can I install Ubuntu on my mac mini(ppc) without losing my os x and files?
[04:54] <kieranDOA> Its reeally quite annoying, im stuck on 1024*768, and window re-drawing is a bit laggy
[04:54] <ardy> where to change? to bootup in text mode?
[04:54] <gyro_54> which file controls sound output
[04:54] <spikeb> kieranDOA: you could look up the exact info for your machine (if it has a built in display) online
[04:54] <specialbuddy> where can I find out my bandwith?
[04:54] <kieranDOA> markgrif: yes.
[04:54] <markgrif> I am liking it on this PC laptop.
[04:54] <thenerdsangle> specialbuddy: i've always been a fan of http://bandwidthplace.com/speedtest
[04:55] <markgrif> Good. I already burned the Cd.
[04:55] <specialbuddy> that's where I'm at right now
[04:55] <kieranDOA> markgrif: You need to add a bootstrap partition with mac-fdisk then install, and you should be fine (provided you have a seperate partition to install ubuntu)
[04:55] <specialbuddy> thanks though
[04:55] <SurfnKid> I find DVD/RW are the best so i dont waste DVDs =D
[04:55] <firefly> pppoe_dude: Well, thanks. I've got it from here
[04:55] <markgrif> No, only one partition. :-(
[04:55] <firefly> pppoe_dude: I appreciate it a lot
[04:55] <specialbuddy> firefox has one again
[04:55] <thenerdsangle> can anyone help me with forwarding wired connections through wifi?
[04:56] <kieranDOA> Markgrif: you could try resizing it, but... youd be pretty screwed if it messed up
[04:56] <DBO> thenerdsangle, firestarter
[04:56] <pppoe_dude> firefly, np
[04:56] <spikeb> kieranDOA: what machine are you having problems on?
[04:56] <thenerdsangle> DBO: looks interesting. i'll check it out
[04:57] <kieranDOA> spikeb: its an eMac
[04:57] <spikeb> ooh
[04:57] <kieranDOA> ATI gfx, 9200 i believe
[04:57] <spikeb> kieranDOA: look up the exact specs online, then you can enter it by hand into xorg.conf
[04:57] <kieranDOA> spikeb: ive fed all of the display info into X
[04:57] <spikeb> kieranDOA: and it's still being retarded?
[04:57] <kieranDOA> spikeb: Yep.
[04:57] <buzzed> hmm doomlegacy... sdl vs x11?
[04:57] <xxx> can anyone tell me where the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15434 com from? how can i get there if no this address?
[04:58] <specialbuddy> just tested network after using an antenna
[04:58] <specialbuddy> 2.78 mbps
[04:58] <bdmp_> !network install
[04:58] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bdmp_
[04:58] <specialbuddy> 356 KB/sec
[04:58] <specialbuddy> was 14 KB/sec before
[04:58] <specialbuddy> so I'd say that worked out good
[04:58] <kieranDOA> spikeb: The config i have now is ok, apart from the lack of any resolution other than 1024*768
[04:58] <bdmp_> Anyone know a faq for installing dapper over a network?
[04:58] <bdmp_> I got no cdrom
[04:59] <spikeb> kieranDOA: emacs max out at 1024x768 dont they?
[04:59] <kieranDOA> the g4's? no.
[04:59] <kieranDOA> 1280*1024 in OS X
[04:59] <xxx> ubotu,i tried www.ubuntu.com, seems from it ,but ,i cant find the specific place
[04:59] <ubotu> xxx: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[04:59] <kieranDOA> Hmm, hold on a sec.
[04:59] <kieranDOA> I have x installed in os x
[04:59] <five_linux> hrmrmr... updates broke my X .. :-(
[04:59] <kieranDOA> i wonder if i copied my config across
[05:00] <five_linux> only 640x480 now
[05:00] <xxx> ubotu ,sorry for my poor english,
[05:00] <dr_willis> !bot
[05:00] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[05:00] <DBO> xxx, ubotu is a bot...
[05:00] <bdmp_> xxx: yeah
[05:00] <bdmp_> same thing happened to me
[05:01] <xxx> i just wanna know how can i get this webpage: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15434
[05:01] <DBO> so lifelike isnt he bdmp_?  we are hooking him up to skynet next week
[05:01] <bdmp_> what do you mean? click on it
[05:01] <bdmp_> yeah
[05:01] <kieranDOA> xxx: that webpage works fine.
[05:01] <sugarhigh4242> is there a way to take a screenshot of Xgl?
[05:01] <DBO> sugarhigh4242, the same way you take a screenshot as before
[05:01] <bdmp_> xxx, what irc client are you using?
[05:02] <FunnyLookinHat> bdmp_, he's on gaim
[05:02] <bdmp_> oh,
[05:02] <sugarhigh4242> DBO, i can't do it fast enough to get the 3d cube
[05:02] <kieranDOA> Just click it, failing that paste it into browser :-)
[05:02] <jobezone> hello guys,
[05:02] <bdmp_> let me guess he is clicking on the screen and it moves
[05:02] <jobezone> .
[05:02] <DBO> sugarhigh4242, use gnome-screenshot --delay 5
[05:02] <sugarhigh4242> thanks
[05:03] <xxx> im using gaim ,i know i can click on it ,i mean ,if i dont have this address,how can i get there?
[05:03] <kieranDOA> xxx: bookmark it? lol, save it to a file?
[05:03] <bdmp_> Oh, you want to find the paste bin?
[05:03] <jobezone> Anyone had a problem with an optical usb mouse in dapper? Just curious, as tomorrow I'm going to comment to an existing, but uncorfimed, bug report very simillar to my problem.
[05:04] <bdmp_> jobezone: mine is ok
[05:04] <Cornellius> Helllo
[05:04] <bdmp_> jobezone: oh wait, its not usb
[05:04] <xxx> yea ,i want find paste in
[05:04] <gyro_54> Lost the sound from my sound port on my Audigy2 card but the sound is still there from the headphone port? Any ideas??
[05:04] <spikeb> yes, plug the speakers into the headphone port
[05:04] <spikeb> hehe
[05:04] <kieranDOA> lol
[05:04] <Cornellius> Lets say I'm running the Unbuntu and Kunbuntu (Gnome & KDE) and I want to upgrade them to their last version, what should I do ?
[05:04] <bdmp_> !paste
[05:04] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[05:05] <xxx> bdmp,i want to find paste bin
[05:05] <bdmp_> xxx: see you can put ! and a word and the bot will tell you useful information
[05:05] <Cornellius> *Let's
[05:05] <gyro_54> spikeb: Thanks
[05:05] <kieranDOA> spikeb: You think if i copied my X config from os x to ubuntu itd work?
[05:05] <bdmp_> xxx: right there ubotu said it
[05:05] <dr_willis> apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade  :P updates the system
[05:05] <spikeb> gyro_54: i know that's not a long term solution, but it will help until you get it figured out
[05:05] <bdmp_> !paste
[05:05] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[05:05] <spikeb> kieranDOA: i never tried that myself
[05:06] <bdmp_> xxx: do you follow?
[05:06] <spikeb> kieranDOA: back up your working config and try it
[05:06] <kieranDOA> Ahh well, worth a try
[05:06] <xxx> !paste
[05:06] <uXp> Hello, what is Nautilus?
[05:06] <kieranDOA> spikeb: already done that, from thr countless attemps at dpkg-reconfigure
[05:06] <bdmp_> it is a file viewer
[05:06] <flodine> anyone on 64 bit running smooth
[05:06] <bdmp_> like explorer for gnome
[05:06] <spikeb> kieranDOA: haha
[05:06] <xxx> bdmp,no ,i dont quite follow u
[05:07] <gyro_54> spikeb: It was working fine and suddenly stopped. I want to upgrade to dapper but want to fix a few problems before I do
[05:07] <five_linux> anyone else having probs with nvidia drivers and only getting 640x480 with the recent updates?
[05:07] <spikeb> gyro_54: you might want to upgrade first, actually
[05:07] <kieranDOA> Now its just finding where os x puts the xorg.conf, cause its not in /etc/X11
[05:07] <kieranDOA> Can i mount hfs+ drives in ubuntu?
[05:07] <SurfnKid> whoa
[05:07] <spikeb> kieranDOA: osx uses xfree 4.4, not xorg
[05:07] <Cornellius> Let's say I'm running the Unbuntu and Kunbuntu (Gnome & KDE) and I want to upgrade them to their last versions, what should I do ? I am running K/Ubuntu 6.06
[05:07] <SurfnKid> I have Gentoo on my laptop I didnt know
[05:07] <gyro_54> Spikeb: OK
[05:07] <bdmp_> xxx: ubotu is a bot. If you type "!paste" it tells you where the pastebin is. We did it 3 times.
[05:08] <kieranDOA> spikeb: the config file should still work though shouldnt it?>
[05:08] <spikeb> kieranDOA: i think so
[05:08] <kieranDOA> ok, do you know if i can mount hfs+ partitions from ubuntu, just to save me trying if you cant lol
[05:08] <xxx> dbmp,u mean ,i type !paste here,and i'll get the information?
[05:08] <sharky> how do i find which processes are using my audio device?
[05:09] <bdmp_> xxx yes
[05:09] <spikeb> kieranDOA: yes you can mount it read only very easily
[05:09] <xxx> !paste
[05:09] <bdmp_> xxx, watch
[05:09] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[05:09] <bdmp_> see
[05:09] <bdmp_> ubotu said it
[05:09] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bdmp_
[05:09] <bdmp_> it is a bot
[05:09] <xxx> lol ,i got it
[05:09] <bdmp_> xxx, watch this
[05:09] <xxx> i saw it
[05:09] <dr_willis> !open the pod bay doors hal.
[05:09] <ubotu> dr_willis: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:09] <eugman> Anyone know how I can convert a mpg into a more editable format?
[05:09] <bdmp_> !sources
[05:09] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[05:09] <xxx> thanku
[05:09] <apoc0106> can someone help me with properly installing the OSS sound driver..... i know there is a problem because of gcc?
[05:10] <xxx> so ,bot is a machine?
[05:10] <dr_willis> eugman,  ffmpeg or transcode would be what to google for i think
[05:10] <Cornellius> apoc0106: RUnning Ubuntu ?
[05:10] <dr_willis> roBOT
[05:10] <bdmp_> xxx, yes a "robot"
[05:10] <apoc0106> kubuntu
[05:10] <hrothbeort> kieranDOA: did you say you were looking for the xinitrc on os x?
[05:10] <apoc0106> but i would assume installing it would be hte same for both systems
[05:10] <xxx> oh, i got it
[05:10] <xxx> robot
[05:10] <xxx> lol
[05:10] <[arcane] > apoc0106, uh what do you mean installing OSS
[05:10] <dr_willis> not a RoBoat. :P
[05:10] <Cornellius> apoc0106: Did you download the ''build-essential'' package with Adapt ?
[05:10] <bdmp_> xxx, where are you at with using kubuntu? Did you install?
[05:11] <[arcane] > apoc0106, alsa is better than OSS
[05:11] <apoc0106> [arcane] , my sound card isnt alsa comptable
[05:11] <kieranDOA> hrothbeort: yes.
[05:11] <apoc0106> unless you can show me how to enable it
[05:11] <[arcane] > apoc0106, and its OSS compatible ??
[05:11] <[arcane] > apoc0106, what is the card ??
[05:11] <apoc0106> Cornellius, no i havent tried
[05:11] <xxx> bdmp,im in china ,using ubuntu
[05:11] <Cornellius> apoc0106: This package will download most of the tools needed to compile all sort of things. It's a must-have.
[05:11] <apoc0106> [arcane] , its one of those cards that has the modem and sound card together
[05:11] <[arcane] > OSS isnt even developed in linux no more
[05:12] <bdmp_> xxx: Did you set up your sources?
[05:12] <apoc0106> piece of crap really
[05:12] <xxx> so ,forget my poor english
[05:12] <SurfnKid> I was beginning to get sad and sick of the same old story, the same old screen
[05:12] <[arcane] > apoc0106, AC97??
[05:12] <bdmp_> !chinese
[05:12] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bdmp_
[05:12] <apoc0106> [arcane] , i think so yes
[05:12] <hrothbeort> kienDOA: The default one is under /private/etc/X11. However the system will create one for you at ~/.xinitrc once you launch X11.app IIRC.
[05:12] <bdmp_> !japanese
[05:12] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, bdmp_
[05:12] <[arcane] > apoc0106, well that is alsa compatible
[05:12] <xxx> set up? ive fill in the source.list
[05:12] <spikeb> bdmp_: it's !jp and !cn
[05:12] <apoc0106> [arcane] , ok well it doesnt work
[05:12] <[arcane] > apoc0106, have you tried alsaconf
[05:12] <bdmp_> xxx, I am in Japan
[05:12] <Cornellius> Let's say I'm running the Unbuntu and Kunbuntu (Gnome & KDE) and I want to upgrade them to their last versions, what's the best way to do it under K/Ubuntu ?
[05:13] <xxx> bdmp,japanese?
[05:13] <apoc0106> [arcane] , no i am new to this
[05:13] <kieranDOA> hrothbeort: Thank you, i can use the config file for X in ubuntu right?
[05:13] <bdmp_> Cornellius: watch
[05:13] <[arcane] > apoc0106, well try that as root before you think it dont work
[05:13] <bdmp_> !upgrade
[05:13] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[05:13] <SurfnKid> bdmp_, whoa cool Jap!
[05:13] <[arcane] > apoc0106, sudo alsaconf
[05:13] <Cornellius> bdmp_: I know about this and that's not what I meant.
[05:13] <hrothbeort> kieranDOA: Do you mean use the OS X .xinitrc in an Ubuntu installation?
[05:13] <Cornellius> bdmp_: I'm already running 6.06
[05:14] <bdmp_> xxx I can read it and speak it but I am white
[05:14] <apoc0106> [arcane] , do i need to download the package from adept
[05:14] <kieranDOA> hrothbeort: i want to use the xfree config from os x in ubuntu, as im having problems with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:14] <bdmp_> Cornellius: then can you go in to adept and update packages?
[05:14] <xxx> so ,where r u come from
[05:14] <xxx> dbmp
[05:14] <[arcane] > apoc0106, well looks like you do
[05:14] <bdmp_>
[05:14] <dipnlik> hi all. does anyone know if i can use skippy-xd in ubuntu? links is http://thegraveyard.org/skippy.php , it says it uses XDamage, XComposite and XFixes extensions
[05:15] <apoc0106> haha good answer one moment please
[05:15] <[arcane] > apoc0106, ask someone in here what you need to install for alsa
[05:15] <xxx>
[05:15] <bdmp_> ah,
[05:15] <bdmp_> gotta love the chinese
[05:15] <xxx> not ,lol
[05:15] <bdmp_> it is here
[05:15] <apoc0106> [arcane] , there is no alsaconf package
[05:15] <bdmp_> it used to be
[05:16] <[arcane] > apoc0106, try installing alsa-lib, alsa-utils
[05:16] <bdmp_> so it became
[05:16] <hrothbeort> kieranDOA:  Ah, gotcha -- well most of it should work, though I'm certainly no expert. There is OS X specific stuff in there, however, like calls to quartz-wm and whatnot.
[05:16] <[arcane] > alsaconf is a tool to find out what the card is
[05:16] <bdmp_> xxx, did you add your sources?
[05:16] <apoc0106> [arcane] , thereis no alsa-lib,andi already have alsa-utils
[05:16] <kieranDOA> hrothbeort: Thanks, Thats fine i just need to get the monitor settings etc
[05:17] <Fyb3r> hey can someone help me out?
[05:17] <[arcane] > apoc0106, if you have alsa-utils that cmd should have worked?
[05:17] <hrothbeort> kieranDOA: cool, good luck
[05:17] <xxx> yea ,i know ,,the proncunciation is america
[05:17] <Fyb3r> i downloaded the live cd......tried to install and its giving me a black screen after partitioning
[05:17] <Fyb3r> all i can see is the mouse pointer
[05:17] <[arcane] > apoc0106, if that does work ask one of these ubuntu users what you need
[05:17] <GTroy> I haven't checked yet, does dapper fix the sound issues with streaming vids?
[05:17] <[arcane] > Fyb3r, that means it crashed
[05:18] <apoc0106> ok, ubuntuusers,what doi need to get alsa sound working??
[05:18] <Fyb3r> well it keeps doing it
[05:18] <xxx> yea ,ive add my souce
[05:18] <Fyb3r> anyway to get it to work?
[05:18] <GTroy> apoc0106, you select it
[05:18] <[arcane] > Fyb3r, no not really
[05:18] <xxx> dbmp,u can type chinese?
[05:18] <Fyb3r> so your product doesnt work?
[05:18] <apoc0106> GTroy, not autodetect?
[05:18] <[arcane] > Fyb3r, what were you trying to accompish ??
[05:18] <[arcane] > Fyb3r, not my product
[05:18] <bdmp_> xxx, I can type japanese not chinese
[05:19] <xxx> but u typed chinese just now
[05:19] <bdmp_> xxx, did you add your sources?
[05:19] <xxx> yea ,i added
[05:19] <bdmp_> that is old japanese , i.e. chinese
[05:19] <GTroy> apoc, you know there's oss, and esd too
[05:19] <GTroy> you might have to select from them
[05:19] <buzzed> so sdl vs x11?
[05:19] <Fyb3r> why would it be crashing?
[05:19] <GTroy> Fyb3r, can you restart x?
[05:19] <xxx> why u ask me agian and again did i  add my source ?
[05:20] <[arcane] > Fyb3r, idk what were trying to accomplish
[05:20] <Fyb3r> i can restart if i press the restart button on my pc
[05:20] <[arcane] > meaning what was the reason to use it
[05:20] <apoc0106> i know, this card i think only works with oss...i downloaded the special driver but it seems to not compile correctly i think because of gcc
[05:20] <Frogzoo> !tell Fyb3r about fixres
[05:20] <xxx> sth wrong with my source?
[05:20] <[arcane] > apoc0106, ubuntu isnt really meant for compiling
[05:20] <GTroy> Fyb3r, not with ctrl alt backspace?
[05:20] <[arcane] > apoc0106, get lspci
[05:20] <Fyb3r> nope
[05:20] <ardy> how to setup printer ? I dont see any printer service in gnome
[05:20] <[arcane] > then use that cmd to see what it says
[05:20] <ardy> help!  how to setup printer ? I dont see any printer service in gnome
[05:20] <Fyb3r> how?>
[05:20] <apoc0106> [arcane] , whats that do
[05:21] <dr_willis> ardy,  its un the menus , look again
[05:21] <dipnlik> [arcane] : speaking of compile, can you help me with skippy-xd ?
[05:21] <Frogzoo> Fyb3r: read the pm from ubotu
[05:21] <[arcane] > apoc0106, it shows what pci slots are being used
[05:21] <apoc0106> [arcane] , ok, then what
[05:21] <[arcane] > dipnlik, skippy well what do ya need
[05:21] <GTroy> anyone have sound issues with streaming video, and mov, api?
[05:21] <[arcane] > apoc0106, look for the snd card
[05:21] <dipnlik> [arcane] : http://thegraveyard.org/skippy.php lists skippy and skippy-xd . xd looks better but it is not on the repos
[05:21] <bdmp_> xxx, I don't know how much you know about ubuntu so I am trying to see what you know so I can give you tips if you need them. You didn't know what the bot was so I thought you might not know how to set up sources. Just trying to help
[05:21] <ardy> dr_willis, what do u mean un ??
[05:22] <dr_willis> ardy,  IN the menus.. look again.
[05:22] <[arcane] > dipnlik, usually its not good to go out of apt
[05:22] <GTroy> !sound
[05:22] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[05:22] <[arcane] > not to mention that ubuntu does compile well
[05:22] <ardy> dr_willis, no its not there
[05:22] <[arcane] > doesnt*
[05:22] <dipnlik> [arcane] : wow. why?
[05:23] <Frogzoo> arcade: gcc is gcc - what do you mean "doesn't compile well"?
[05:23] <dipnlik> [arcane] : i mean why do you say it doesn't compile well?
[05:23] <ardy> dr_willis, it missing in gnome
[05:23] <dr_willis> ardy, you could always open a shell and use the gnome-cups-somthing tool. :P type gnome-cups<tab>    (hit the tab key)
[05:23] <[arcane] > dipnlik, idk i have never really seen ppl compile on it
[05:23] <[arcane] > due to they are used to packages
[05:23] <apoc0106> [arcane] , this is annoying... i have lsscisi but no ffreak lspci
[05:23] <Frogzoo> [arcane] : ubuntu compiles just fine thanks
[05:23] <LeoStewart> does anybody else have problems minimizing beep media player on dapper?
[05:23] <[arcane] > apoc0106, then see what package you have to get
[05:23] <bdmp_> I just upgraded to dapper and now my network is down. Any suggestions?
[05:24] <[arcane] > Frogzoo, ok whatever
[05:24] <apoc0106> [arcane] , i dontknow :(
[05:24] <Frogzoo> [arcane] : you just need to install "build-essential"
[05:24] <xxx> dbmp thanku ,u r so nice
[05:24] <ardy> dr_willis, it is not there, I type and tab it already
[05:24] <[arcane] > apoc0106, well use synaptic and search for lspci
[05:24] <[arcane] > Frogzoo, well thx but i dont use ubuntu
[05:24] <apoc0106> is synaptic better than adept
[05:24] <ghrey> does easy ubuntu work well to install java and flash
[05:24] <ghrey> ?
[05:25] <[arcane] > dipnlik, you get that
[05:25] <spikeb> apoc0106: i dont know about better. it's different
[05:25] <dr_willis>  gnome-cups-add
[05:25] <dr_willis>    gnome-cups-manager are 2 that i see.
[05:25] <[arcane] > dipnlik, install build essentials
[05:25] <bdmp_> ghrey, yeah
[05:25] <Fyb3r> ok ummmm how would fixing code help my prob?
[05:25] <detectiveinspekt> I clicked on a floppy drive but I forgot that the power for it is out, now I can't close the window it just shows its working
[05:25] <Fyb3r> its a live cd
[05:25] <ToHellWithGA> ghrey: you can even use ubuntu in your native language (probably)
[05:25] <detectiveinspekt> how can I kill it?
[05:25] <apoc0106> i installed build essentials
[05:25] <dr_willis> ghrey,  java is a simple install now. you dont need easyubuntiu for it.
[05:25] <bdmp_> flash will auto install in firefox and java can be installed with synaptic
[05:25] <ToHellWithGA> b/c it clearly isn't english
[05:25] <Sgeo> Bye all
[05:25] <dr_willis> ghrey,  and flash was a simple install i recall also.
[05:25] <[arcane] > Fyb3r, honestly if it didnt work of well
[05:25] <[arcane] > just try again
[05:26] <[arcane] > or use a better live cd
[05:26] <ToHellWithGA> ghrey: check out the languages available.  it does work well with flash and java
[05:26] <Fyb3r> how do i run these commands?
[05:26] <Fyb3r> i dont understand, because it says to reboot, but if i reboot it will just go back to what it was
[05:26] <ic56> bdmp_: re: your network problem: wireless or wired?
[05:26] <Frogzoo> Fyb3r: from a terminal -> apps -> accessories -> terminal
[05:26] <revilot> could someone take a look at this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 and try and help me figure out wth im doing wrong
[05:26] <ardy> dr_willis, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15435
[05:26] <xxx> dbmp ,im just use ubuntu half a mouth ,i like it ,and also have thouands of hundreds of problem ,it's very nice of u to help me
[05:27] <xxx> all people here r so nice
[05:27] <xxx> thank u all,guys
[05:27] <Frogzoo> Fyb3r: you just need to restart X - hit 'ctrl alt backspace'
[05:27] <[arcane] > xxx, no thank you
[05:27] <Fyb3r> it freezes the install at about 54%
[05:27] <Fyb3r> thats when this starts occuring
[05:27] <[arcane] > Fyb3r, why dont you just use the reg install disc
[05:27] <bdmp_> xxx, do you know what sources are?
[05:27] <student> hi
[05:28] <ic56> !justask
[05:28] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[05:28] <Fyb3r> ummm because all i have is the live cd
[05:28] <Frogzoo> Fyb3r: you are installing then? not just trying to run ubuntu off the live cd?
[05:28] <Fyb3r> i dont know where the install disc is....
[05:28] <apoc0106> [arcane] , Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device                                                                                4310
[05:28] <apoc0106> 0000:00:0e.1 Communication controller: Rockwell International Riptide HSF 56k PC                                                                                I Modem
[05:28] <apoc0106> there you go
[05:28] <Fyb3r> yes i am trying to install
[05:28] <Fyb3r> i choose to format the entire drive and it gets to 54%
[05:28] <xxx> dbmp ,sources can let me update my system and software ,am i right?
[05:28] <[arcane] > apoc0106, hmm
[05:28] <Fyb3r> then freezes
[05:28] <[arcane] > apoc0106, that is odd
[05:28] <jhenn> hi. how do i find out what driver my pcmcia card is using?
[05:28] <[arcane] > apoc0106, have you seen if alsa supports it
[05:29] <ic56> Fyb3r: 54% of formatting or installing?
[05:29] <[arcane] > go to the site and look
[05:29] <bdmp_> xxx, yes. Did you change them?
[05:29] <apoc0106> oss does
[05:29] <apoc0106> not alsa
[05:29] <LeoStewart> Does anybody else use BMP?
[05:29] <bdmp_> xxx, having the right sources could solve a lot of problems
[05:29] <xxx> yea ,when i installed my ubuntu
[05:29] <LeoStewart> I'm having problems with it.
[05:29] <vbgunz> is there an easy way to list a packages dependencies on the command line?
[05:29] <revilot> has anyone in here had to install broadcom drivers in ubuntu
[05:29] <[arcane] > apoc0106, well OSS isnt developed for linux no more
[05:29] <Fyb3r> installing
[05:29] <bdmp_> xxx, where did you get your sources from?
[05:29] <chapium> does anyone here have issues with ubuntu on imac g3 displaying on the wrong screen?
[05:29] <apoc0106> yeah but i got the driver from www.opensound.com
[05:29] <xxx> i know the impoteance of source:)
[05:29] <vbgunz> apt-get --help
[05:30] <Fyb3r> i click install.....then watch it get to 54% and it freezes
[05:30] <[arcane] > apoc0106, yeah thats old
[05:30] <Murrlin> g'evening all
[05:30] <[arcane] > apoc0106, but now that yoou installed build essentails
[05:30] <bdmp_> xxx, what other problems have you had?
[05:30] <jhenn>  how do i find out what driver my pcmcia card is using?
[05:30] <[arcane] > try to compile it
[05:30] <Murrlin> just seeing if I can find out what "LTS" means
[05:30] <spikeb> Murrlin: long term support
[05:30] <apoc0106> it doesnt work
[05:30] <Murrlin> ahh
[05:30] <apoc0106> i get errors
[05:30] <joycetick> hi, when booting from the ubuntu dapper cd it doesent get past 'adding live cd user', it just goes back to a screen with "Uncompressing Linux.... Ok, booting the kernel."
[05:30] <ic56> I think LTS is Lightweight Terminal Services
[05:30] <apoc0106> i know it has something to do with gcc
[05:30] <[arcane] > apoc0106, what errors
[05:30] <apoc0106> it wants gcc 3.4
[05:30] <xxx> dbmp,i got the sources from www.ubuntu.org.cn,there is a guide for people like me
[05:30] <[arcane] > apoc0106, PM me
[05:31] <jhenn> Murrlin: long turd shits
[05:31] <Murrlin> my synaptic alert is showing the 6.06 LTS upgrade
[05:31] <bdmp_> cool.
[05:31] <revilot> i need some help installing broadcom drivers in ubuntu.  I'm using this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[05:31] <Murrlin> I've had those :P
[05:31] <bengt__> Hi, Do anyone know why I have 2 squares before and after the author name in the timestamp window in XChat-Gnome?
[05:31] <ic56> !ubuntultsp
[05:31] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntultsp is on https://wiki.edubuntu.org/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
[05:31] <Fyb3r> anyone have an idea?
[05:31] <xxx> !help
[05:31] <ghrey> easubuntu is taking some time to prepare packages
[05:31] <ic56> !lts
[05:31] <ghrey> is that normla?
[05:31] <ubotu> I guess lts is Long Term Support. LTS versions will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[05:31] <ghrey> normal
[05:32] <kieranDOA> hrothbeort: you still here?
[05:32] <joycetick> when booting from the ubuntu dapper cd it doesent get past 'adding live cd user', it just goes back to a screen with "Uncompressing Linux.... Ok, booting the kernel." anyone know why?
[05:32] <xxx> dbmp ,how many command does the bot can do ?
[05:32] <bdmp_> xxx, what do you need help with?
[05:32] <bdmp_> xxx: it only does certin words. You have to learn the words.
[05:32] <ic56> xxx: just /msg ubotu help  for a list of commands
[05:33] <bdmp_> xxx, it doesn't think.
[05:33] <xxx> i just tried to see whether can i seek a list of command
[05:33] <bdmp_> oh, ok
[05:33] <bdmp_> did you see what ic56 wrote
[05:33] <Fyb3r> would it have to do with the fact that the live cd is trying to format the primary partition?
[05:33] <bean> hi, does ubuntu come with firewall by default?
[05:34] <kieranDOA> iptables
[05:34] <pppoe_dude> bean, all linuxes come with one
[05:34] <bean> cos i'm running amule and it says my kad network is firewalled
[05:34] <revilot> can anyone help me get my wireless working?
[05:34] <xxx> dbmp ,i tried /msg,no response
[05:34] <kieranDOA> bean: that shouldnt be anything to do with iptables, do you have a router by any chance?
[05:35] <ic56> bengt__ squares around author name sound like colour coding or emphasis gone bad.  Possibly a config problem.
[05:35] <AlienX> revilot, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:35] <bdmp_> .... /msg ubotu help
[05:35] <planetcall> Hi, My Ubuntu partitions are ReiserFS. How can I convert to XFS now without needing to reinstall the OS ?
[05:35] <bean> well it says here (http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq?highlight=%28firewall%29) that there is no default firewall
[05:35] <Fyb3r> is there a way to run the install from my laptop?
[05:35] <Frogzoo> xxx listkeys  to the bot to search
[05:35] <bean> kieranDOA: yes i have an ADSL modem-cum-router
[05:35] <pppoe_dude> bean, that problem doesnt seem to be coming from iptable
[05:35] <pppoe_dude> s
[05:35] <xxx> .../msg
[05:35] <bean> pppoe_dude: ok
[05:35] <bean> then where?
[05:35] <revilot> AlienX: ive tried going through the guides with no success
[05:36] <pppoe_dude> bean, are you behind a router / using a NAT network, etc
[05:36] <kieranDOA> bean: you may need to set a static ip up and forward ports, though im not sure if thats the problem, im guessing it is
[05:36] <bdmp_> xxx you need the uboto and the help
[05:36] <revilot> AlienX: no idea what im doing wrong
[05:36] <Murrlin> ok. http://www.customerssuck.com/board/lofiversion/index.php/t1676.html
[05:36] <Fyb3r> guys can u please help me?
[05:36] <AlienX> revilot, are you sure your card is supported
[05:36] <ToHellWithGA> !porn
[05:36] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ToHellWithGA
[05:36] <Murrlin> oops n/m wrong window ^^;
[05:36] <ToHellWithGA> hehe
[05:36] <bengt__> ic56: Thanks, I will check it out. Have to go :( , back later :0
[05:36] <Murrlin> sorry about that
[05:36] <AlienX> Fyb3r, just ask your question and if someone can help, they will
[05:36] <bdmp_> xxx: "/msg ubotu help"
[05:36] <revilot> its a broadcom 5318
[05:36] <xxx> how can i do
[05:36] <bean> yes but my modem/router transparently forwards ports in windows
[05:36] <AlienX> revilot, is it on the list on that site I gave you?
[05:36] <pppoe_dude> bean, not in linux
[05:36] <bean> i have no trouble with bittorrent in windows
[05:36] <ToHellWithGA> there's no built-in porn magic autodownloader in ubuntu, right?
[05:36] <revilot> AlienX: its in the list
[05:36] <bean> but doesn't the router take care of it?
[05:36] <ToHellWithGA> besides sudo apt-get some
[05:36] <pppoe_dude> bean, did u set it up so it forwards ports?
[05:37] <AlienX> revilot, and it says it's supported?
[05:37] <Frogzoo> ToHellWithGA: it's called azureus
[05:37] <Fyb3r> my question was......why can i not install from the live cd?
[05:37] <pppoe_dude> bean, or is it Upnp style?
[05:37] <bdmp_> xxx: "/msg ubotu help"
[05:37] <ToHellWithGA> Frogzoo: thanks
[05:37] <bean> Upnp
[05:37] <Fyb3r> it installs to 54% and freezes
[05:37] <revilot> AlienX: maybe im looking at a different list
[05:37] <bean> pppoe_dude: it's UPnP
[05:37] <pppoe_dude> bean, you need to manually set it up
[05:37] <vbgunz> how can I check over the commandline what dependencies are required for the package?
[05:37] <darius_> Is there any way to have a mirror ubuntu server for environments where you update many computers (to keep from updating via Internet for every system)?
[05:37] <revilot> AlienX: this is a list of cards that work with ndiswrapper
[05:37] <pppoe_dude> bean, Upnp is dependant upon programs that support Upnp
[05:37] <ToHellWithGA> vbgunz: you don't have to unless you're really interested
[05:37] <pppoe_dude> bean, it is not the operating system that does that
[05:37] <ToHellWithGA> apt-get should get them by default
[05:38] <vbgunz> ToHellWithGA: how can I find out the dependencies over the cli ?
[05:38] <Fyb3r> am i on ignore?
[05:38] <bean> pppoe_dude: ok
[05:38] <ToHellWithGA> Fyb3r: i can read your messages
[05:38] <bean> pppoe_dude: how do i go about setting it up?
[05:38] <pppoe_dude> Fyb3r, did u check the disk for errors?
[05:38] <ToHellWithGA> vbgunz: if you need to know, go look at the source
[05:38] <Fyb3r> yes
[05:38] <vbgunz> ToHellWithGA: I know, I have a script and I think I am installing dependencies along side packages that already get them
[05:38] <Fyb3r> it went through fine
[05:38] <Anonycat> I'm trying to get a Linksys WPC54G to work on Ubuntu.  ndiswrapper is configured and says "Driver present, hardware present" but I can't connect to the network.  What could be wrong?
[05:38] <revilot> AlienX: this is a list of cards that work with ndiswrapper
[05:38] <bean> pppoe_dude: or can u point me at a guide or faq?
[05:38] <pppoe_dude> bean, probably get into your router and go under port forwarding
[05:38] <revilot> AlienX: its in that list
[05:38] <Frogzoo> darius_: take a look at debmirror - sounds like it does what you need, haven't used it myself though
[05:39] <xxx> dbmp ,i saw it
[05:39] <pppoe_dude> bean, what programs do you need to work ?
[05:39] <vbgunz> ToHellWithGA: there is no way to list dependencies of a package over the command line>?
[05:39] <darius_> Frogzoo: thanks
[05:39] <bean> amule
[05:39] <bean> kademlia network in amule
[05:39] <ToHellWithGA> vbgunz: just find the source for the packages in which you're interested.  you can download the source if you turn on the source repositories
[05:39] <kayde> i need help with gimp!
[05:39] <bean> so linux can't use UPnP?
[05:39] <Fyb3r> why does the screen turn black and i can still see my mouse?
[05:39] <ToHellWithGA> kayde: how so?
[05:39] <Warbo> OK, incase anyone is interested I have finished a guide here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootFromUSB and I have started a guide which was needed by this guide here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mount
[05:39] <acke__> Hey I wasnt able to find java 1.5.x in the package list. does ubuntu have jre1.5.x??
[05:39] <bean> i mean ubuntu doesn't support Upnp?
[05:39] <tau> Hello..  I'm trying to upgrade to Dapper from Breezy 5.10, but I get this error: "Could not calculate the upgrade - A unresolvable problem occured while calculating the upgrade. Please report this as a bug." Can someone help me out?
[05:39] <ToHellWithGA> acke__: apt-cache search java |grep sun
[05:39] <AlienX> revilot, i don't see the broadcom 5318 in that list
[05:40] <bean> pppoe_dude: kademlia network in amule
[05:40] <xxx> dbmp ,i saw the bot ,but seems no commad u told me ,such as !paste !chinese !upgrade
[05:40] <Warbo> acke__: Yes, itis called sun-java5-XXXX (where XXXX can be doc, bin, etc)
[05:40] <revilot> AlienX: give me the link to the list youre looking at
[05:40] <pppoe_dude> bean, you need to go to preferences and see which ports are needed
[05:40] <antinobody> I'm having the same problem as Anonycat
[05:40] <vbgunz> ToHellWithGA: I have far too many packages to do it like that. it'll take forever :(
[05:40] <bdmp_> tau:  how were you upgrading?
[05:40] <AlienX> revilot, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:40] <Frogzoo> acke__: sun-java5-jre
[05:40] <Fyb3r> there someone i can pm?
[05:40] <kayde> ToHellWithGA, i need to figure out how to put my .scm script into gimp...
[05:40] <pppoe_dude> bean, linux can use upnp, but it depends on the programs that you use
[05:40] <tau> bdmp: using the standard upgrade manager from the system/admin menu
[05:40] <BlueEagle> Since no-one in #xubuntu knows and since someone here _might_ know. What is "the best way"(tm) to configure a printer in xubuntu? I installed gnome-cups-manager to get it done. It worked but packaged a lot of libs that probably won't be used for anything else.
[05:40] <ToHellWithGA> vbgunz: i'm still lost as to why you have to know the dependencies if they'll auto-install as needed
[05:40] <pppoe_dude> bean, you also need amule to bind to your external IP address
[05:40] <ToHellWithGA> and if you really do care to know, the source will tell you
[05:41] <bdmp_> xxx: !chinese is not a command. I thought it might be. Here watch this... with french...
[05:41] <bdmp_> !french
[05:41] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:41] <kayde> ToHellWithGA, what?
[05:41] <AlienX> BlueEagle, i always use the web interface for setting up a printer in cups. Check the man page for details