[01:07] <Strav> Question: Since a few weeks now, It seems I have to reset pulseaudio for it to recognize my usb headset when it's plugged in and Yet, it's detected by alsa's aplay -l. Is there any way I can fix this for pulseaudio to automatically add the usb headset? (resetting pulse cause kde's phonon to display pulseaudio as the only available "device" so the defined device preferrences do not apply anymore (I have to manually switch which is the
[01:07] <Strav> default output device with pavuconrol)
[06:36] <cico> ciao
[09:56] <max_> What folder to save you want to backup all you documents and programm configuration without plasma configuration itself ?
[10:39] <Erthe> Good morning.
[10:40] <Erthe> I'm running Kubuntu 12.04.3 LTS and KDE 4.11.2; for some reason kdesudo no longer prompts me for a password when performing actions like mounting volumes in Dolphin or when trying to install packages through apper.
[10:40] <Erthe> How do I enable this?
[10:59] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:32] <BluesKaj> Hiya folks
[11:49] <AceKing> Has anyone else been having problems with Software Center crashes in 13.10 64 bit?
[11:51] <BluesKaj> AceKing. it's still a bit unstable , no crashes here , but slow and clunky
[11:52] <BluesKaj> I avoid it , use muon
[11:53] <BluesKaj> if i need to find plg info
[11:53] <BluesKaj> pkg
[11:54] <AceKing> BluesKaj: OK, thank you
[12:00] <AceKing> Another question I had... Yesterday, I was having a problem installing Wine. I found this website, (http://www.itworld.com/software/371219/install-wine-171-ubuntu-1310-saucy-salamander) and followed the instructions. After I finished, I was a little concerned about the first ppa that they had me add. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:joe-yasi/yasi  After I ran update/upgrade in Konsole, I noticed this file changed libsdl-image1.2. I deleted
[12:00] <AceKing>  the ppa, but I'm concerned about the file it changed. Any thoughts?
[12:00] <FloodBotK1> AceKing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:01] <AceKing> oops
[12:05] <BluesKaj> AceKing. odd , that lib seems necessary for Simple Direct-Media Layer , but you can reinstall it
[12:07] <AceKing> BluesKaj: OK, I'll do that. That is odd that they want people to install that ppa. I should have known better
[12:10] <BluesKaj> wine should install without problems right from the repos , do you recall the error . AceKing ?
[12:12] <Gallus> Hi, some1 else is having trouble comfiguring hsp/hfp bluetooth?
[12:13] <AceKing> BluesKaj: Actually, I couldn't find it for some reason. I found Play On Linux, and Wine tricks, and wasn't sure if it installed Wine along with it.
[12:13] <BluesKaj> just type wine in muon
[12:14] <AceKing> BluesKaj: I did, but it wasn't coming up for some reason.
[12:14] <BluesKaj> play on linux is wine in noob clothing
[12:16] <BluesKaj> AceKing. make sure you have all your "universe" repos enabled in the sources list , then update and upgrade , then install wine
[12:16] <Gallus> mine is showing wine, playonlinux and wine1.4
[12:17] <BluesKaj> Gallus. that seems right
[12:17] <AceKing> BluesKaj: I just needed Wine to run TeamViewer. Usually, when I download the TeamViewer deb file, it automatically installs Wine. But I downloaded the 64 bit deb, and was getting a dependency error. So I figured If I installed Wine first it would work. It turned out that I had to install the 32 bit version for some reason
[12:18] <Gallus> yep. mine is installed without problems.
[12:18] <Gallus> i think default wine installs 32bits modules
[12:19] <AceKing> Gallus: I usually have no problems installing TeamViewer 64bit, which automatically installs Wine.
[12:20] <AceKing> Everything is installed now, so I am happy
[12:20] <Gallus> mine is installed right, but is 32bits for sure
[12:22] <AceKing> Thanks for the help. Time to get my butt in gear and head out.  I never use hfp/hsp
[12:47] <Gallus> i have a headset bluetooth, he works with a2dp but not work with hfp/hsp
[12:49] <jsseabold> Is it enough to put a powersaving script in /etc/pm/power.d/00-powersave or do I need to tell power mgmt to execute it as well?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> Gallus. is your headphone bluetooth 2.0 /
[12:54] <Gallus> yes
[12:54] <Gallus> is bluetooth  v. 2.1
[12:58] <BluesKaj> Gallus. what's hfp ?
[12:59] <Gallus> hands free protocol
[12:59] <Gallus> we have several protocols fpr bluetooth
[13:00] <Gallus> basicaly a2dp is for soud/music
[13:00] <Gallus> hfp and hsp are for recording voice
[13:02] <Gallus> i tried same headset on windows machine. It works on A2dp when just listening, and when i need voice redording it switches for hfp/hsp protocol
[13:03] <Gallus> in linux it dont change automaticaly, but you can change manualy
[13:04] <Gallus> but my problem is sound is ok while i am in a2dp protocol, but when i switch to hfp/hsp, headset dont work
[13:04] <Gallus> dont record and dont enable sound
[13:07] <BluesKaj> well, I have no knowledge about hsp ...my wireless headphones are connected to an audio receiver since all the audio sources connect to it
[13:30] <Gallus> Thanks BluesKaj anyway
[14:14] <kaddi> heya, anyone know what's wrong with software updates in saucy? It was supposed to update 4 packages and download a total of 2MB nad it's been at it for 5h now
[14:14] <kaddi> everything is greyed out, only the blue bar for "loading software list" is running back and forth
[14:14] <kaddi> i've tried to kill it, but it won't die
[14:16] <kaddi> there's also no lock on the lists no more, I've done an sudo apt-get update & upgrade in the command line and they said everything was up to date. So I guess it did the updates, just not sure what it is it is doing now
[14:23] <BluesKaj> kaddi. try the terminal
[14:24] <kaddi> what do I do in the terminal?
[14:24] <kaddi> what's the apps name?
[14:25] <kaddi> killall muon-updater?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> stop muon , update and upgrade thru the terminal with apt-get
[14:28] <BluesKaj> m,ake sure you have all your repos enabled
[14:28] <kaddi> i did the update and upgrade before, it said i was up to date (which is why I concluded that muon must have updated whatever there was to update
[14:29] <kaddi> but killall muon-updater closed the window
[14:29] <kaddi> so that's all i needed :)
[14:30] <BluesKaj> kaddi. no matter if the repos are commented out in the sources.list and muon then apt can't reach them
[14:30] <PasNox> Hi
[14:30] <PasNox> I finished to backup / restore my data from old disk to new one.
[14:31] <PasNox> now i want to redownload and reinstall all currently isntalled packages to be sure no files are corrupted.
[14:31] <PasNox> any hint of the apt-get / dpkg command to use please?
[14:31] <kaddi> there's nothing commented out in my sources.list
[14:31] <BluesKaj> check muon too
[14:31] <kaddi> unless muon uses a different repository than apt-get?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> nope , but sometimes muon doesn't pickup changes in the sourc es.list even after updating and vice versa
[14:33] <kaddi> how do i check in muon-updater? I've tried to click on stuff, but it just doesn't do anything
[14:33] <kaddi> configure muon-update sohuld open a popup i guess?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> don't use the updater , open muon and choose settings /configure software sources
[14:34] <BluesKaj> kaddi.^
[14:34] <kaddi> ok, it came up.. just seems slow. I don't see an option to configure where it
[14:34] <kaddi> ah
[14:34] <kaddi> ok
[14:35] <kaddi> looks to be in order too.. anything but the cd rom is checked
[14:36] <BluesKaj> there's a bug updating muon from apt-get , but once you have the same sources setup in both the sources.list and muon then updates/upgrades run smoothly
[14:38] <BluesKaj> i prefer the cli/terminal for updating/upgrading , then if there's a problem it will show up in the text
[14:39] <BluesKaj> especially when OS is new like 13.10
[14:41] <kaddi> ah, ok
[14:41] <kaddi> yeah, i did change the lists to include the canonical-partners last week.. it's possible this was the first time muon ran after this
[14:41] <kaddi> but it looked good when I got to the settings
[14:42] <kaddi> i usually use the cli as well, but there was a popup so I figured "why not click it" :p
[14:46] <BluesKaj> I turn the notifier off because I update every day , since I'm usually running a dev kubuntu version , but i think it's good practice anyway
[14:47] <BluesKaj> muon update notifier that is
[14:53] <kaddi> yeah :)
[15:34] <PasNox> I'm looking for a way to reisntall corrupted packages on my system. how can i force reisntall of all installed package on the systeme ? ( it's not a fresh install, and so get selection / set selection is not what i want )
[15:49] <BluesKaj> PasNox. so you need to purge the the corrupt packages and their config files , the other packages really don't need to be reinstalled
[15:50] <PasNox> BluesKaj: problems is i don't know which one are corrupted :/
[15:50] <PasNox> i got a few sectors broken during the backup
[15:50] <BluesKaj> how were they corrupted ?
[15:50] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:51] <PasNox> the source broken hard disk was having corrupted sectors
[15:51] <PasNox> and so the final backup as partial corrupted files
[15:53] <BluesKaj> PasNox. reinstall kubuntu to / if you have a separate /home partition, if not then backup your data and do a clean install
[15:54] <PasNox> there is a lot of custom conf files i don't want to rewrite in /etc and my databases to be checked
[15:54] <PasNox> is it possible to know the list files being palced in bad sectors ?
[15:54] <PasNox> so i oculd eventually reduce the things for reisntall
[15:59] <BluesKaj> identifying data loss in broken sectors is beyond my expertise , but I'm sure if you asked in #ubuntu you might get an answer...the population here is pretty small to expect a quick answer here
[16:07] <PasNox> BluesKaj: ok, thanks
[16:07] <PasNox> if i recall, they ban me ;)
[16:07] <PasNox> a whole ago :d
[16:09] <BluesKaj> if I recall you objected to too many suggestions and you got classified as unco-operative
[16:19] <PasNox> BluesKaj: dunnow ;), the only thing i recall is an op being speaking to me very bad, and was not accepting i do same with him. so he bann me ;)
[16:19] <PasNox> easy way of stupid people ;)
[16:20] <BluesKaj>  no point in discussing it , you could try #kde
[16:21] <PasNox> ok
[17:24] <NTFS83> !ops | ljl spammer
[18:08] <fatih> hi, i'm using kubuntu 13.10 and i activated compiz but my kde windows look so ugly. how can i change my windows decorations?
[18:10] <BluesKaj> fatih. no need for compiz on kubuntu , kwin provides most desktop effects , unless you have special requirements
[18:12] <zero_coder> hello , my os getting unresponsive at times
[18:12] <fatih> BluesKaj: i changed some things about kwin. i clicked use compiz windows decorator against kwin and i cant remember how i changed it.
[18:13] <fatih> BluesKaj: how can i access kwin properties to use nice looking windows decorations?
[18:16] <BluesKaj> fatih. kmenu>computer>system settings>workspace appearance., then look in application appearance for style, icons, fonts etc
[18:17] <BluesKaj> fatih. personally I would uninstall compiz
[18:18] <fatih> BluesKaj : thank you very much. i made it.
[18:18] <BluesKaj> fatih. good :)
[18:18] <fatih> BluesKaj: if i uninstall compiz can i still use windows effects?
[18:18] <BluesKaj> yes, kwin has it's own compositor
[18:20] <BluesKaj> then check out desktop effects/all effects tab  in system settings , fatih
[18:20] <fatih> BluesKaj: thanks it's time to search how to uninstall it. thank you again. have a nice day/night. :)
[18:22] <BluesKaj> fatih. look in kmenu>apps>system>muon package manager and type compiz in the search then uninstall it
[18:23] <fatih> BluesKaj: thanks. i'll.
[18:29] <fatih> BluesKaj: thanks again. have a nice day.
[18:30] <BluesKaj> fatih. same to you :)
[19:11] <ramonnieto> hola!
[19:11] <lordievader> Hey ramonnieto
[19:11] <ramonnieto> Spanish?
[19:12] <lordievader> !spanish | ramonnieto
[19:12] <Linusnewb> hi all
[19:13] <Linusnewb> a few question :)
[19:13] <lordievader> Hey Linusnewb
[19:13] <ramonnieto> Gracias
[19:13] <lordievader> !ask
[19:14] <ramonnieto> ubottu ¿hay canales Kubuntu en español?
[19:14] <Linusnewb> i have kubuntu + ubuntu sources + some other saurces implented,... so now my networkmanager not use resolv.conf and dhcp3
[19:14] <draikx> I just installed 13.10 onto my new laptop (Acer Aspire V3-571), and I don't have a working mouse or eth0/wlan0. It all worked when I was using the LiveCD. I've done 2 re-installs now, and still having the same issue. How do I resolve this?
[19:15] <draikx> ramonnieto, #kubuntu-es
[19:16] <ramonnieto> Muchas gracias draikx
[19:16] <Linusnewb> I'm not be able to change my dns so I have manipulated dhcp.conf in /etc/dhcp it seems work but not by every restart
[19:17] <ramonnieto> Soy  usuario novato, pero un entusiasta en linux, tengo un blog para aprender, por si desean aportar orientación o información www.lindux.net
[19:18] <lordievader> Linusnewb: Dns is set by /etc/resolv.conf which is generated by /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/
[19:19] <ramonnieto> #kubuntu-es: Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited  ??
[19:20] <Linusnewb> I have set me as root and delete resolv .conf in /etc and /run folders
[19:20] <Linusnewb> and also scripts with resolv.conf
[19:20] <Linusnewb> but I can still connect without them
[19:21] <lordievader> Linusnewb: You don't want to delete them! You want to edit them.
[19:21] <Addle> ramonnieto: I tried and got redirected to #Ubuntu-es. Try joining that directly.
[19:23] <Linusnewb> is a wonderful life without them but to edit by every restart dhcp.conf is not a funny job
[19:23] <ramonnieto> addle ?
[19:23] <tdn> Hi. I have just installed Kubuntu 13.10 on a new Dell E6430 laptop with nvidia NVS 5200M graphics. I have tried installing the proprietary drivers using additional drivers program (jockey). However, it does keeps being "Not in use". How do I utilize my Nvidia graphics card in Ubuntu?
[19:24] <tdn> s/Ubuntu/Kubuntu/
[19:26] <Addle> ramonnieto: He intentado unir # kubuntu-es, pero he redirigido a # ubuntu-es. Intenta unir eso directamente.
[19:27] <kedric> hello
[19:27] <Linusnewb> now question is there a way to fix dhcp.conf with manuel dns settings without loss by every restart?
[19:30] <Linusnewb> cause it seems kde networkmanager use this script but it's regenerated hisself by every restart,...
[19:34] <Addle> Linusnewb: You could edit the connection, go into the IPv6 tab and select the method "Automatic (DHCP) Addresses only". Then enter the DNS server IP address.
[19:36] <Addle> Linusnewb: Well, it's just Automatic (only addresses), now, but close enough. :)
[19:39] <Linusnewb> Addle I am using IP4 but it;s reset after reboot so I make script manipulating
[19:40] <Linusnewb> resolv.conf made me angry and I delete everything with them and linked in dhcclient
[19:40] <Addle> Linusnewb: I mean do this in the network manager applet. Click on it, select your connection, and click on the wrench. Then click on the "Edit Connection" button and go to the IPv4 tab.
[19:40] <Linusnewb> so dhclient doesn't work as default but the script still works
[19:41] <Addle> Linusnewb: If you're using Network Manager and you try and fight it rather than use it, you will lose. lol
[19:42] <Linusnewb> it's not working but the only thing what work is dhcp.conf but by every restart I lost my configuration file
[19:43] <Addle> Linusnewb: Ooops, I typed "go into the IPv6" tab, and I meant IPv4.
[19:44] <Addle> Linusnewb: Exactly, Network Manager is responsible for managing that stuff, and will overwrite it. You have to go through the plasmoid.
[19:44] <Linusnewb> wich script and wich daemon use the networkmanager IPv4 dhclp3 is doesn't exist in my system :D
[19:47] <draikx> I've re-installed Kubuntu 13.10 on my laptop (Acer Aspire V3-571) a few times now, and I cannot get the mouse, ethernet, wifi, or USB to work. Everything worked in the LiveCD, though.
[19:48] <draikx> Is this a known issue with 13.10, and is there a solution? I've not found anything online to reference this issue.
[19:48] <Addle> Linusnewb: Assuming you haven't messed it up, Network Manager should be there by default. The dhcp client should come from the package 'isc-dhcp-client".
[19:48] <Addle> Linusnewb: Configure it from the applet. Don't mess with config files.
[19:52] <Addle> Linusnewb: The daemon is "NetworkManager", FYI, but all you really need to know is configure it properly in the "Edit Connections" from the applet in your system tray. If it doesn't show, right click on the little arrow on the system tray and go into "System Tray Settings" and unlock the widgets, then make sure there's a check mark next to the "Network Management" entry.
[19:52] <basse> hi.. i am having trouble with my tablet. when connected the notifier in kde doesnt say anything.. and i see this in logs: Nov  2 21:45:17 kone mtp-probe: bus: 2, device: 9 was not an MTP device
[19:53] <basse> however, i can do "mtp-detect" by hand and the device is found. so what is this mtp-probe?
[19:53] <basse> running 13.10
[19:55] <kaddi> how do I check what packages were updated during the last upgrade? Is that even possible
[19:59] <Addle> kaddi: Look in /var/log/apt/history.log
[20:00] <kaddi> hmm, that only contains the ones I istalled manually recently. Not the updated ones
[20:01] <kaddi> ah no
[20:01] <kaddi> sorry.. client was hanging
[20:01] <Addle> kaddi: np :)
[20:02] <kaddi> my battery charger/acpi applet seems broken and I recall it was working fine yesterday
[20:03] <kaddi> looking at the stuff that was updated today, it's mostly grub and glib-networking related.
[20:03] <draikx> Does anyone know why something would work seamless on the LiveCD, but then not work at all through an actual install?
[20:03] <kaddi> not sure if those could affect the issue?
[20:04] <Addle> kaddi: Hm, don't see why those would.
[20:04] <Addle> kaddi: How is it broken?
[20:05] <kaddi> Addle: it doesn't realise when I unplug the power supply and claims that it's 100% charge even after 2-3h of usage
[20:05] <Addle> draikx: Well, theoretically, the DVD has everything it might need on it, whereas the install itself should try and only install what it knows it needs. Strange that so much doesn't work.
[20:06] <kaddi>  i've gotten to the point where I know that upower  -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT1 shows 100% recharged, but cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1/charge_now  shows 2736000 (when full charge is 7200000)
[20:06] <kaddi> so I'm guessing something isn't read correctly somewhere... :p but where?
[20:06] <Addle> kaddi: That is a very good question. :)
[20:07] <kaddi> funnily enough, the led for "power supply plugged in" seems to be working just fine ;p
[20:09] <draikx> Addle, that makes sense. Not sure why it isn't being passed along, though.
[20:09] <Addle> draikx: Indeed! In particular, the mouse and USB stuff... Not sure how that wouldn't work out of the box.
[20:10] <draikx> I only have lo in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:11] <Addle> draikx: Yeah, same here, so that's normal.
[20:11] <draikx> Ah, OK.
[20:11] <Addle> draikx: Is your mouse USB? Try lsusb and see if it shows up in there.
[20:12] <Addle> draikx: For example, I get one line in there that says: Bus 008 Device 004: ID 046d:c01e Logitech, Inc. MX518 Optical Mouse
[20:12] <draikx> Addle, no, it's the laptop mouse.
[20:12] <draikx> trackpad
[20:13] <draikx> I'm going to see if I can install 13.04, then upgrade to 13.10
[20:13] <Addle> draikx: Oh, the track pad. Wonder if it shows up in lshw.
[20:16] <draikx> Addle, I just formatted the drive for 13.04. Sorry. I did lshw earlier, but I was only looking for the ethernet and wifi card.
[20:16] <Addle> draikx: Ok, well, shouldn't be necessary to do that, but I guess we'll see if that works. Good luck! :)
[20:16] <draikx> Addle, thank you. I'm hoping this works out, too.
[20:25] <draikx> So far, 13.04 works as intended. Time to upgrade.
[21:16] <draikx> That seems to work. 13.04->13.10 worked. Still don't know why 13.10 install wouldn't work.
[21:17] <apachelogger> draikx: UEFI/secureboot/windows8 computer?
[21:17] <draikx> apachelogger, yes.
[21:17] <Addle> draikx: Indeed! But glad you got it working.
[21:17] <draikx> I disabled UEFI, though. I went back to "Legacy BIOS"
[21:17] <apachelogger> ah, ok
[21:17] <apachelogger> UEFI installation only works if you activate updates in the installer
[21:18] <draikx> apachelogger, I did. 3rd party and install updates both checked.
[21:18]  * apachelogger meant to write a note about that
[21:18] <apachelogger> peculiar
[21:18] <Addle> apachelogger: His problem was that his mouse (trackpad), network interfaces, USB, didn't seem to work.
[21:18] <draikx> Acer Aspire V3-571-9401, if interested.
[21:19] <apachelogger> very strange that it would work on an upgrade
[21:19] <draikx> I don't get it, either. vOv
[21:19] <Addle> Yep, it's a puzzler. :)
[21:21] <draikx> But now I'm happy that I have a working laptop with Kubuntu 13.10
[21:22] <draikx> And it appears that I'm running at 1/2 my installed RAM (4GB instead of 8GB)
[21:24] <apachelogger> draikx: says who?
[21:25] <draikx> free -m
[21:25] <apachelogger> draikx: running 32bit maybe/
[21:25] <apachelogger> ?
[21:26] <draikx> 64-bit
[21:26] <apachelogger> says who? :P
[21:26] <draikx> One sec. Getting things setup.
[21:26] <draikx> I'll get on IRC from there in a bit
[21:26] <draikx> uname -a
[21:27] <apachelogger> all very curious
[21:35] <Addle> apachelogger: Yeah, I'd love to know what the source of the problem was. Hard to get it fixed this way.
[21:36] <draik> apachelogger: I'm on my laptop now
[21:36] <draik> Linux V3571 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:38] <draik>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[21:38] <draik> Mem:          3773       1190       2583          0         47        622
[21:38] <draik> -/+ buffers/cache:        519       3253
[21:38] <draik> Swap:        15257          0      15257
[21:38] <draik> Sorry, I didn't mean to spam. That's all I got now.
[21:39] <Addle> draikx: That's odd!
[21:39] <Addle> draikx: Guessing that other 4GB RAM doesn't show up with sudo lshw?
[21:39] <draik> Let me check
[21:40] <Addle> It's no longer Oct. 31st, so it shouldn't be haunted.
[21:40] <draikx> hahaha
[21:41] <draik> Only reading 1
[21:42] <Addle> Wondering if the RAM is seated properly, hardware wise.
[21:43] <draikx> I can check on that momentarily. Got a few downloads going real quick.
[21:43] <draikx> I'll even swap them (bank 0/1)
[21:43] <Addle> Of all the things, finding your RAM and using it when running a 64 bit OS is one of those "should just work" sort of things.
[21:45] <draikx> Laptop inspected by: Law, Murphy
[21:45] <Addle> lol
[21:48] <MeanderingCode> anyone know a command or script to reload touchpad config? (it "resets" until restarting kde when i run a 'rmmod psmouse && modprobe psmouse' )
[21:52] <dolo_away> MeanderingCode would a bash script added to startup take care of that?
[21:53] <MeanderingCode> dolo_away: startup is fine, my config is loaded.  what happens is that dropping/reloading the psmouse module "resets" the active config to default
[21:53] <MeanderingCode> and i don't want to have to log out and back in to get my config
[21:54] <dolo_away> ahh ok
[21:54] <dolo_away> I don't know much about that unfortunately
[21:56] <draik> This is my MEMORY output from lshw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6349521/
[21:56] <draik> Going to power down so I can check the memory (physically)
[21:59] <Addle> MeanderingCode: Not sure at all, but as a long shot, and the only thing I can come up with, maybe toggling the TouchpadOff setting with synclient would cause it to reload?
[22:00] <Addle> MeanderingCode: I'm more worried about the need to do that in the first place, though. I guess it stops working and you need to reload the module?
[22:01] <Addle> draikx: You have 4 banks. Maybe one of the chips is in the wrong slot?
[22:02] <Addle> draikx: Going to guess that if one is in bank 2, the other should be in bank 0.
[22:02] <MeanderingCode> Addle: yeah, touchpad occasionally gets stuck in only passing s'th that's read as scrolling (i can drag my finger up/down on the touchpad and scroll)
[22:03] <MeanderingCode> come to think of it, i think it gets stuck thinking there's two fingers
[22:03] <MeanderingCode> b/c i think tapping executes a right click
[22:03] <MeanderingCode> which is the other two finger associated setting
[22:03] <MeanderingCode> (two finger motion and two finger tapping)
[22:03] <Addle> draikx: My motherboard manual for my desktop mentioned something about that, and I think there were two sets of differently colored DIMM slots.
[22:04] <MeanderingCode> and i don't like it, either, but quickest solutions are gold for me, b/c my life has moved on from that time when i adopted linux and could spend >8hrs a week just fiddling with things ;)
[22:04] <Addle> MeanderingCode: Wonder if turning off the two finger thing would resolve the issue. Keeping in mind I'm far from a trackpad expert. :)
[22:04] <draikx> AHA!
[22:05] <draikx> It wasn't seated right. Sticker got in the way.
[22:05] <Addle> draikx: Nice! Glad it works, now.
[22:06] <MeanderingCode> Addle: hmm.  i'll give it a shot next time
[22:06] <draik>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[22:06] <draik> Mem:          7805        798       7007          0         75        288
[22:06] <draik> Swap:        15257          0      15257
[22:06] <MeanderingCode> hard to reproduce, so it's a waiting game :)
[22:06] <draik> 8GB of RAM now :)
[22:06] <MeanderingCode> (still open to solutions, though, if others have thoughts)
[22:06] <Addle> MeanderingCode: hehe Hope you get it sorted out. :)
[22:08] <Addle> Dangit, it's getting cold in here. Quick, someone offer me a job in Hawaii! XD
[22:09] <Addle> Eh, worth a shot. lol
[22:11] <apachelogger> draik: congratz
[22:24] <draik> Thanks
[22:35] <draikx> Everything seems to be working. Even got my Android phone paired with my laptop :)
[22:36] <Addle> draikx: KDE Connect has been a fun toy to play with. I got a text yesterday and it popped up in my system tray notifications. Niiiice...
[22:36] <draikx> Addle, THANK YOU! I was just going to look for something like that.
[22:37] <Addle> draikx: Still needs a lot of work, and it would work better if I was on Android 4.1 or better (4.0.x right now). But very promising.
[22:37] <draikx> I'm on Android 4.3, so I shouldn't have a problem (then again, look at this laptop, haha).
[22:38] <Addle> draikx: Keep in mind the version in the repos is old enough that the android one from the play store will complain. It was better once I built it myself.
[22:39] <Addle> draikx: As I recall, I got some instructions from: http://larsemil.se/small-howto-on-kde-connect-and-ubuntu/
[22:44] <draikx> Checking it out...
[22:46] <MangaKaDenza> BLARGH
[22:46] <MangaKaDenza> I still cannot find the source for kubuntu
[22:46] <MangaKaDenza> :<
[22:46] <MangaKaDenza> am I missing something
[22:48] <valorie> there are source repositories for *every part*
[22:48] <valorie> you just have to enable them
[22:48] <valorie> once you do that, and update, you will have ALL the sources
[22:48] <valorie> of course it takes up room
[23:19] <ferlete> hello
[23:21] <draikx> Addle, it doesn't have bluetooth support. I found Android Desktop Notifier (for the laptop) and Remote Notifier (for my phone), and that is working.
[23:22] <Addle> draikx: Yeah, it uses Wifi. Don't know about Bluetooth. My desktop doesn't have it and my laptop is ancient. :)


[01:47] <seanbrystone> HI i cant seem to connect to Ubuntu One using the applet
[01:51] <duanedesign> hello seanbrystone
[01:52] <duanedesign> seanbrystone: so you launch Ubuntu One from the Applications > Internet >Ubuntu One
[01:52] <seanbrystone> hi duanedesign
[01:52] <seanbrystone> yeah that dont work either
[01:52] <seanbrystone> nor does the cloud icon
[01:52] <duanedesign> and then clicking on the applet
[01:53] <duanedesign> and selecting connect doesnt work ?
[01:53] <seanbrystone> i can only log in from https://one.ubuntu.com/files
[01:53] <seanbrystone> yeah it does nothing
[01:53] <seanbrystone> im on 64 bit ubuntu 9.10
[01:53] <duanedesign> hmm, ok well lets see if we can fix it
[01:55] <duanedesign> what we will do is add your computer to your account again and see if that works
[01:55] <duanedesign> Quit the Ubuntu One client
[01:56] <duanedesign> Open Applications->Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys
[01:57] <seanbrystone> ok
[01:57] <duanedesign> select the Password tab
[01:58] <duanedesign> click the little arrow to open the folder there
[01:58] <duanedesign> there should be an entry for Ubuntu One Token
[01:58] <duanedesign> mine was at the very bottom
[01:58] <seanbrystone> i only see my wifi and Desktop Couch user authentication, theres two of those
[01:59] <duanedesign> ok not them
[02:00] <duanedesign> ok well i guess if its not there then we can go on. Nothing to delete :)
[02:00] <seanbrystone> ok lol
[02:00] <duanedesign> go to    https://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines/
[02:00] <duanedesign> # Click on the checkbox next to your computer
[02:01] <duanedesign> "Remove Selected Computer"
[02:01] <seanbrystone> ok
[02:01] <duanedesign> Open Applications->Internet->Ubuntu One
[02:02] <duanedesign> A web page should open, prompting you to add your computer to your Ubuntu One account
[02:02] <duanedesign> Add your computer
[02:02] <seanbrystone> nope, only the options came up
[02:03] <duanedesign> ok
[02:03] <seanbrystone> if i right click the cloud icon, i can get to the Ubuntu One page
[02:03] <duanedesign> r-click and choose quit
[02:03] <seanbrystone> right click and "go to web".
[02:04] <seanbrystone> ok
[02:04] <duanedesign> then when the applet disappears
[02:04] <duanedesign> try and open it again
[02:04] <duanedesign> Open Applications->Internet->Ubuntu One
[02:04] <duanedesign> A web page should open, prompting you to add your computer to your Ubuntu One account ?
[02:04] <seanbrystone> yeah that worked
[02:05] <seanbrystone> that worked a while back, then it asked me again and again for me to Add my computer
[02:05] <duanedesign> when you finish you should be connected. I want to check something else when you are finished.
[02:05] <duanedesign> ok
[02:05] <duanedesign> lets make sure you have 1.0.3
[02:05] <seanbrystone> k
[02:06] <duanedesign> version of the client it incorporates a lot of the newer fixes
[02:06] <duanedesign> you can check it by opening a Terminal (Applications > Accesories . Terminal)
[02:06] <duanedesign> and running the following :     dpkg -l ubuntuone-client
[02:07] <seanbrystone> ii  ubuntuone-clie 1.0.2-0ubuntu2 Ubuntu One client
[02:07] <duanedesign> under version you should see a number.
[02:07] <duanedesign> ok
[02:07] <duanedesign> lets add the Ubuntu One PPA / Stable PPA
[02:07] <seanbrystone> k
[02:07] <duanedesign> that is the easiest way to get the latest stable release
[02:08] <duanedesign> in the Terminal you can type or copy and paste this command
[02:08] <duanedesign> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntuone/stable
[02:09] <duanedesign> itll do a few things and then go back to the prompt
[02:09] <duanedesign> then well run an update
[02:09] <seanbrystone> k
[02:09] <duanedesign> in the Terminal:
[02:09] <duanedesign> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:10] <seanbrystone> ok
[02:10] <duanedesign> to be safe you can run that dpkg command again if you like
[02:11] <duanedesign> an easy way to run past commands is just push the up arrow
[02:11] <duanedesign> while in the terminal
[02:11] <seanbrystone> k
[02:11] <duanedesign> r-click on the applet and select quit again
[02:12] <seanbrystone> k
[02:12] <duanedesign> then Launch Ubuntu One again from Applications > Internet > Ubuntu One
[02:12] <duanedesign> and you should be running the newer client
[02:12] <seanbrystone> nope lol
[02:12] <seanbrystone> nothing happen
[02:13] <duanedesign> ok
[02:13] <seanbrystone> says i have 1.0.3
[02:13] <seanbrystone> but cant start it
[02:14] <duanedesign> so the applet isnt coming up when you select Ubuntu One from the Applications Menu
[02:14] <duanedesign>  Delete the ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf file and restart the Ubuntu One client
[02:14] <duanedesign> we can also try that
[02:15] <duanedesign> the easiest way to delete that file in my opinion is from the Terminal run : rm ~/.config/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf
[02:16] <seanbrystone> hmm yeah that not working either
[02:17] <seanbrystone> i deleted the file
[02:20] <duanedesign> ok
[02:20] <duanedesign> lets make sure the client is actually quit
[02:20] <duanedesign> killall ubuntuone-syncdaemon ubuntuone-client-applet
[02:20] <duanedesign> that ran in a terminal should make sure the client is quit
[02:21] <seanbrystone> that worked i think
[02:21] <seanbrystone> the icon changed to a grey cloud, then changed to a cloud with explaination point
[02:21] <seanbrystone> real fast
[02:22] <duanedesign> ok
[02:22] <seanbrystone> that normal?
[02:23] <duanedesign> lets see if we can get some information to better understand what is happening
[02:23] <duanedesign> in your Terminal run
[02:23] <duanedesign> /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon --debug > ~/syncdaemon-debug.log
[02:23] <seanbrystone> Another instance is running
[02:23] <duanedesign> ok
[02:24] <duanedesign> sudo killall ubuntuone-client ubuntuone-syncdaemon ubuntuone-client-applet
[02:24] <seanbrystone> ubuntuone-client: no process found
[02:25] <duanedesign> thats ok
[02:25] <duanedesign> will it let you run
[02:25] <duanedesign> /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon --debug >  ~/syncdaemon-debug.log
[02:26] <seanbrystone> that doesnt seem to do anything
[02:26] <duanedesign> ok
[02:26] <duanedesign> well lets try and Launch the ubuntuone-client from the Applications menu
[02:27] <seanbrystone> ok that put the cloud icon , but still explaination point
[02:27] <duanedesign> ok
[02:29] <duanedesign> seanbrystone: allright
[02:30] <duanedesign> seanbrystone: you might have bandwidth throttling on
[02:30] <duanedesign> currently that can cause some issues
[02:31] <duanedesign> r-click the applet
[02:31] <duanedesign> select preferences
[02:31] <seanbrystone> oh yeah i had that on
[02:31] <duanedesign> unclick limit bandwidth
[02:31] <duanedesign> seanbrystone: were the numbers set to 0
[02:31] <seanbrystone> yeah
[02:31] <seanbrystone> yay! works now
[02:31] <duanedesign> the bug seems to show up most frequently then
[02:32] <seanbrystone> ty very much, that seemed to be the problem
[02:32] <seanbrystone> :)
[02:32] <duanedesign> seanbrystone: if you do want bandwidth throttling
[02:32] <duanedesign> turn u both numbers
[02:32] <duanedesign> up*
[02:32] <duanedesign> :)
[02:32] <seanbrystone> ok
[02:33] <seanbrystone> thanks again
[02:33] <duanedesign> seanbrystone: anymore problems come back
[02:33] <duanedesign> seanbrystone: good luck
[02:33] <seanbrystone> ok bye :D
[10:41] <matt___> working or not? (ubuntu one that is)
[11:10] <oly> hi, is there anyway to stop the update of files with certain extensions, and if not is it a planned feature via a config file ??
[11:11] <oly> basically need something like the ignore feature in bzr
[11:36] <matt___> is there a status update page?
[14:43] <Yorvik> From the mailing list
[14:43] <Yorvik> We try to post about any service interruptions here:
[14:43] <Yorvik> http://identi.ca/ubuntuone
[15:04] <rtgz> I would suggest to reverse the notifications about service interruptions
[15:06] <rtgz> huh? No standup meeting and nobody to poke?
[15:07] <rtgz> Yorvik, Bug #490328
[15:08] <rtgz> woo-hoo, "openid" is no longer "failed" :)
[15:17] <vds> hello hello Desktop+ MEETING BEGINS
[15:18] <vds> Chipaca, dobey (if around), lifeless, rtgz, teknico...
[15:18] <Chipaca> what, already?
[15:18] <Chipaca> me
[15:18] <vds> jblount?
[15:19] <rtgz> pass
[15:19] <vds> me
[15:19] <teknico> me
[15:19] <vds> ops not lifeless but beuno, sorry
[15:20] <vds> Chipaca: please
[15:20] <jblount> me
[15:21] <rodrigo__> me
[15:26] <vds> Chipaca: want to start?
[15:26] <vds> or should I go? :)
[15:27] <vds> I take it as a "yes, go!"
[15:27] <vds> :)
[15:27] <rodrigo__> :)
[15:27] <vds> DONE: finished client configuration, discussed again with funambol support, found out new bugs ready to be filed
[15:27] <vds> TODO: propose this branch, start to rediscuss some initial choices about users id and phone numbers
[15:27] <vds> BLOCKED: (AGAIN) I'm definitely not, but I don't have any news about the deployment of funambol and funambol exchange in prod, should I push, should I wait?
[15:27] <vds> next teknico
[15:27] <teknico> DONE: holiday; landed a branch to fix an error at first login (#513280); fixing the phone setup web interface with vds
[15:27] <teknico> TODO: more fixing the phone setup web interface; fix a user's problems accessing the contacts web IU (#506584)
[15:28] <teknico> BLOCK: none
[15:28] <teknico> next: jblount
[15:28] <jblount> DONE: Get search / start pages creed
[15:28] <jblount> TODO: Hook them up to search apis
[15:28] <jblount> BLOCKED: Nope
[15:29] <jblount> rodrigo__: !
[15:29] <rodrigo__> • DONE: oauthdesktop usage in music store widget. On-call review. Finished the 2-tab contacts picker. Backported webkit and dependencies to jaunty for beta PPA.
[15:29] <rodrigo__> • TODO: Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). Make sandy's snowy test suite work with our server (http://git.gnome.org/cgit/snowy/tree/api/tests.py). Discuss with jdo and aquarius about oauth token per app, not per machine? Add jslint tests to check. Remove autosave code in notes web editor. U1 client adds back button to pages. U1 client interrogates library
[15:29] <rodrigo__>  page to update download progress. geoip detection on server to forward to appropriate store
[15:29] <rodrigo__> • BLOCKED: no
[15:29] <rodrigo__> next: Chipaca
[15:34] <beuno> vds, hi
[15:54] <Chipaca> oops, sorry for dropping out of the standup
[15:54] <Chipaca> me: in the sprint
[15:54] <Chipaca> next or meeting ends
[18:02] <mandel> Question; what happens when you delete a db from desktopcouch?
[18:02] <mandel> I keep removing dbs from my tests and they re-spawn like in a videogame... any idea?
[18:02] <aquarius> mandel, weir
[18:02] <aquarius> d
[18:03] <aquarius> mandel, that's not supposed to happen?
[18:04] <mandel> well, if i remove a db and don't want it back from ubuntuone, right?
[18:04] <aquarius> I thought that database deletes were propagated. CardinalFang?
[18:04] <CardinalFang> Whatwhat?
[18:05] <mandel> not that i know...
[18:05] <mandel> I keep getting all of them, I remove them from my local instance and the bloody things reappear
[18:06] <mandel> can anyone access my db in the server and let me know if I have things like test_add_root?
[18:06] <CardinalFang> mandel, there is no way to delete a database.
[18:06] <mandel> CardinalFang, really?
[18:07] <mandel> so if I do CouchDatabase("test") the thing is there "for ever"
[18:07] <mandel> ouch
[18:07] <CardinalFang> mandel, really.  A deleted database is one that is not yet replicated.  We don't have a way to store a negative-existence event.
[18:07] <CardinalFang> Yes, it is there forever.  You may remove all records so that it's empty.
[18:08] <mandel> done that, but when I get in futon is kinda hard to look at the ones I'm interested :P
[19:18] <rtgz> ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.ActionQueue - WARNING - connection lost: Connection was closed cleanly.
[19:18] <rtgz> whom to poke?
[19:21] <rtgz> 2010-02-01 21:20:10,885 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.ActionQueue - ERROR - FreeSpaceInquiry             share:'c7a7fc0f-4f9f-427f-8ba2-5cc4efb8e351'   node:---                                      FreeSpaceInquiry() failure INTERNAL_ERROR
[19:21] <rtgz> And so the client is now happily reconnecting
[20:18] <rtgz> joshuahoover, I believe the topic can be changed now
[20:19] <joshuahoover> rtgz: love to, but for some reason i can't...could before...hmmm...
[20:20] <rtgz> 0 ops in the channel
[20:20] <rtgz> wha?
[20:20] <joshuahoover> rtgz: ummm...yeah
[20:20] <joshuahoover> rtgz: and i'm pretty irc illiterate so, not the best combo ;)
[20:20] <rtgz> joshuahoover, I guess this has something to do with the recent IRC server upgrade
[20:20]  * Ng honks
[20:22] <rtgz> hm, based on what I see, #ubuntu has 1 operator-bot, and #telepathy has 0 ops. Unfortunately I don't remember what was the state earlier
[20:23] <rtgz> Ng, aquarius responds with "I am working on this" on music store honks :)
[20:23] <aquarius> :-)
[20:23] <aquarius> I am in fact working on it right now as we speak :)
[20:25] <rtgz> Okay, who was the operator in #ubuntuone channel earlier?
[20:27] <Ng> I actually came in here because I'm running lucid and ubuntuone is failing to connect
[20:28] <rtgz> Ng, how does it misbehave?
[20:28] <Ng> and interestingly I think whatever the issue is, might be stopping tomboy from loading, which is somewhat distressing
[20:28] <Ng> rtgz: going by the logs I seem to be getting internal errors
[20:28] <rtgz> Ng,  FreeSpaceInquiry() failure INTERNAL_ERROR ?
[20:29] <Ng> and AccountInquiry()
[20:29] <Ng> it kinda looks like all of the calls inquiries are failing, but I'm not super familiar with the log format
[20:31] <Ng> hrm, tomboy seems to be blocking on dbus
[20:50] <rtgz> joshuahoover, http://irchelp.org/irchelp/changuide.html#security
[20:50] <rtgz> joshuahoover, looks like we lost all ops :)
[20:50] <joshuahoover> rtgz: hmmm...
[20:51] <rtgz> joshuahoover, need to get xmpp server for conferencing. It is at least clear who is operator and who is not in XMPP MUC...
[20:51]  * rtgz tries to plant xmpp servers whenever he goes
[20:52] <joshuahoover> rtgz: so, based on that link, are we pretty much needing everyone to leave the channel and recreate it? that seems crazy
[20:53] <rtgz> joshuahoover, I guess we will need to find out who was the creator of the channel
[20:58] <rtgz> joshuahoover: UbuntuIrcCouncil, static, Chipaca, rmcbride, jamesh and urbanape are channel operators, and everyone from *!*@canonical/* can change the topic.
[20:58] <rtgz> correction - statik,
[21:01] <statik> rtgz, sometime this week when we get 10 minutes together I will make you an op
[21:01]  * statik reads the backlog
[21:01] <rtgz> statik, erm... The problem is... it looks like you are not the operator at the moment...
[21:01] <statik> oh yeah, i don't stay opped. thats generally recommended on ubuntu related channels
[21:02] <statik> need me to do something?
[21:02] <rtgz> statik, the Ubuntu Bug Day today is not that "today" anymore, so the channel topic needs to be changed...
[21:03] <statik> rtgz: ah, ok. at least you and joshuahoover should also be ops
[21:03] <statik> I need to look up how to do that
[21:03] <rtgz> statik, and it turned out that joshuahoover is unable to change the topic, while he was the one that set it previously
[21:04] <statik> well, he says he is joshuahoover, but how can we know for sure ;)
[21:04] <joshuahoover> statik: heh
[21:05] <j0shuahoover> statik, true
[21:05] <rtgz> that's why I like XMPP :)
[21:06] <rtgz> Ng, FreeSpaceFailure - INTERNAL_ERROR
[21:07] <rtgz> up-to-date lucid lynx
[21:07] <duanedesign> rtgz: i came across another of those this morning working on bugs
[21:07] <statik> rtgz, you are registered with nickserv already?
[21:08] <rtgz> statik, yup, rtgz, properly registered and protected with a password that is hard to remember
[21:08] <rtgz> duanedesign, yes, it looks like something is broken on the server side (given that clients were not updated) and it causes some kind of errors that are subtle enough to overlook...
[21:09] <statik> rtgz, joshuahoover: you both have +votiA on #ubuntuone now
[21:09] <joshuahoover> statik: cool, thanks!
[21:09] <rtgz> hm...
[21:10] <joshuahoover> statik: though i can't change the topic for some reason...hmmm
[21:10] <statik> joshuahoover, rtgz: please read the operator guidelines before using your new powers :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines
[21:12] <rtgz> statik, ok, now we need the power to summon those who are offline...
[21:13] <statik> heh, that will take some bot programming
[21:17] <duanedesign> I was helping some folks on the Forum and i came across something i was able to reproduce, but cant offer an explanation.
[21:18] <duanedesign> Maybe someone in here has heard/seen this
[21:18] <rtgz> joshuahoover, I guess the string "Have a question? Just ask!" might call for some kind of a problem. There needs to be some kind of authoritative list of channel participants that are considered to be UbuntuOne-related. Request for desktopcouch replication log from a randomUser123 might not be the level of support U1 needs to provide :)
[21:18] <joshuahoover> rtgz: agreed
[21:19] <joshuahoover> rtgz: maybe we put a link to a wiki page with who to contact?
[21:21] <duanedesign> in Evolution if you choose File > Backup settings and save that file in your Ubuntu One folder. Later you choose File > Restore Settings and choose the fil it gives 'select a valid backup file'
[21:22] <rtgz> joshuahoover, yep, this may be useful. And reduce the number of links to one... Need to think about it...
[21:22] <duanedesign> move the file up one directory level to $Home and it works fine
[21:23] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: but it doesn't work when in your ~/Ubuntu One folder?
[21:23]  * rtgz found that evolution can create backups... wow..
[21:23] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: correct
[21:23] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: i was able to reproduce this
[21:23] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: very strange
[21:24] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: would it just not work, not show up, or what?
[21:24] <rtgz> duanedesign, testing with my evolution account atm
[21:25] <duanedesign> here is the individuals post on the forum : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1394117
[21:25] <duanedesign> the fileshows up an syncs
[21:26] <duanedesign> you just cant seem to 'Restore Settings' from it
[21:26] <rtgz> duanedesign, so it needs to be synced... ok...
[21:27] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: i was able to reproduce here as well...very strange
[21:28] <duanedesign> joshuahoover: yes indeed i was stumped.
[21:31] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: check out this bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/447888
[21:31] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: comment #6 in particular
[21:35] <joshuahoover> duanedesign: so, the good news is that this isn't a bug specific to ubuntu one and there is a workaround :)
[21:36] <rtgz> looks like this has to do something with the space characters
[21:38] <joshuahoover> rtgz: seems plausible
[21:38] <rtgz> LOL
[21:39] <rtgz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/367103
[21:39] <rtgz> duanedesign, joshuahoover: WONTFIX in Ubuntu One, evolution guys need to pass parameters properly. ^
[21:40] <joshuahoover> rtgz: yep
[21:42] <rtgz> ok, if INTERNAL ERROR persists tomorrow in the morning I will start debugging with a bigger hammer.
[21:43] <statik> rtgz, is INTERNAL_ERROR still happening today? there was a problem on one of the clusters yesterday but we thought it was fixed. __lucio__ will be very very interested if it's still happening
[21:43] <statik> INTERNAL_ERROR coming back via storage protocol I mean
[21:44] <rtgz> statik, this is happening, but it is somehow hard to reproduce
[21:45] <rtgz> statik, however I am not sure about the source - we get ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.ActionQueue - ERROR - FreeSpaceInquiry share:'' node:--- FreeSpaceInquiry() failure INTERNAL_ERROR
[21:46] <duanedesign> joshuahoove rtgz thank you very much, i will pass the info along :)
[21:47] <rtgz> duanedesign, grrr... I bet the fix fits in 1-3 lines...
[21:48] <duanedesign> lol
[21:48] <rtgz> duanedesign, WHAT? No fix... grrrr
[21:49]  * rtgz reads the bug reports and outputs debug info immediately
[21:49] <statik> rtgz, duanedesign: we could probably fix that in evolution pretty easily, even though it's not a bug in u1 code
[21:49] <statik> thats the great thing about ubuntu, we can patch anyones code
[21:49]  * rtgz fires up apt-get source...
[21:50] <duanedesign> statik: +1
[21:51] <duanedesign> i can t tell you how many hours have been saved and projects improved by sharing code.
[21:51] <statik> when there was an argument over whether to have a space in the Ubuntu One folder name, I believe I told everyone we would fix any problems in supported apps that were related to the space in the name
[21:51] <duanedesign> i dont know how the proprietary guys do it ;)
[21:52] <statik> duanedesign, no kidding! i have worked in some very large software houses, and they end up having these problems where they try to recreate open source communities inside the company without realizing it.
[21:52] <statik> the best way to share code inside a company is to share the code outside the company
[21:52] <rtgz> statik, Yes, at first I was "What? a space in the name, this is no-no!" and then... Hm, space is a valid character, and if application does not handle that then it needs to be fixed. In the end we will have more applications working with file names properly...
[21:53] <rtgz>         command = g_strdup_printf ("cd $HOME && tar chf - .evolution .camel_certs | gzip > %s", quotedfname);
[21:53] <rtgz> very funny
[21:54] <rtgz>         command = g_strdup_printf ("tar ztf %s 1>/dev/null", quotedfname);
[21:54] <rtgz> no, this is very funny
[21:54] <rtgz>         quotedfname is g_shell_quote(filename);
[21:58] <rtgz>         run_cmd ("pkill tar");
[21:58] <rtgz> guys, this backup/restore is scary
[22:03] <rtgz> in fact, this is done by /usr/lib/evolution/2.28/evolution-backup
[22:06] <rtgz> no, these things above are not funny
[22:08] <rtgz> this is what is really causing the problem:
[22:08] <rtgz>         command = g_strdup_printf ("%s/evolution-backup --check %s", EVOLUTION_TOOLSDIR, filename);
[22:08] <duanedesign> hmm
[22:09] <rtgz> filename comes w/o any g_shell_quote there into sanity_check() routine. Adding this call will make it work again
[22:09] <rtgz> there is a separate application which does all the black magic behind backup and restore and there is a small plugin that launches it. The problem is in that small plugin.
[22:10]  * rtgz wishes he had given more hard drive space to lucid VM...
[22:14] <statik> rtgz, if you submit a patch upstream I can help get it turned into a branch and patch against the lucid package
[22:14] <statik> gotta go for now, see you all tomorrow
[22:14] <rtgz> statik, ok, I will do that but tomorrow, commenting the upstream bugreport now
[22:20] <rtgz> duanedesign, ok, bug found and I will provide the patch tomorrow :)
[22:20] <duanedesign> rtgz: that is awesome
[22:21] <duanedesign> ha ha 'awesome' slang i picked up in the 80's :)
[22:21] <rtgz> now we need to dig into these Internal errors, since they are a bit... mmm... bad.
[22:21] <duanedesign> i wa about to ask
[22:22] <rtgz> but I will do this in the morning.
[22:22] <duanedesign> s/wa/was
[22:22] <rtgz> if nobody objects :)
[22:22] <duanedesign> rtgz: ok. I had a bug report that i was looking at
[22:22] <duanedesign> he noticed irregular sorting by filename
[22:23] <duanedesign> in the web UI. He also has the Internal Error
[22:24] <duanedesign> is that something you , or anyone, has noticed as possibly a symptom
[22:26] <rtgz> duanedesign, frankly speaking the file list in web ui needs to have some fixes, e.g. bug #495903
[22:26] <duanedesign> rtgz: ahh, ok thank you. Enjoy your evening
[22:26] <rtgz> duanedesign, I can't reproduce the bug reliably, so that's why I will need to dig into the code
[22:27] <duanedesign> gotcha
[22:27] <rtgz> duanedesign, night. 00:26 here :)
[22:27] <duanedesign> oh, wow
[22:27] <duanedesign> night
[22:28] <rtgz> duanedesign, erm... yep, though I was just saying s/evening/night/  :)
[22:28] <duanedesign> ha ha
[22:29] <rtgz> so, OpenID problem fixed, crazy disconnects seem to be calmed down. More fun ahead :)
[22:29] <rtgz> and this will end our broadcasting.
[22:29] <rtgz> :)
[22:29] <duanedesign> o/
[22:29] <rtgz> good night everyone and have a great gettimeofday() !
[22:46] <ibboT> Hi, I've created an quickly app that uses couchdb. I was under the impression that Ubuntu One would sync my app's data across my machines. This hasn't happened is there anything special I need to do?
[22:57] <duanedesign> hello ibboT
[23:03] <ibboT> hi
[23:03] <duanedesign> ibboT: i was doing some reading earlier on quickly and couchdb
[23:04] <duanedesign> ibboT: i didnt get vary far and got busy :|
[23:04] <duanedesign> i was trying to see if i could put my hands on those links for you
[23:06] <ibboT> ok, I've read quite a few of the things out there but the more info I have the better
[23:10] <duanedesign> ibboT: ahh, wel here is a debugging link for desktopcouch. Maybe that will be usefull for you. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktopcouch/Documentation/Troubleshooting
[23:10] <ibboT> duanedesign: cool thanks, literally just opened that page 10 seconds ago...
[23:11] <duanedesign> ha ha :)


[08:43] <slashtom> morning airurando
[08:45] <airurando> hey slashtom
[08:50] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:50] <slashtom> good morning
[08:54] <airurando> hey czajkowski
[08:54] <czajkowski> hows the wee kids
[08:56] <airurando> good.  at school.
[08:57] <airurando> forgot to ask you... How id the new job going?
[08:59] <czajkowski> good
[08:59] <czajkowski> very busy
[09:01] <airurando> that's great
[09:04] <czajkowski> meetings
[09:04] <czajkowski> lots of them
[09:04] <czajkowski> into onenow
[09:04] <czajkowski> bye
[09:17] <BenChapman> Morning folks
[09:28] <Tribaal> Hi
[09:29] <BenChapman> Tribaal: Hey :)
[09:36] <Tribaal> my flatmate email wasn't very successful :) I'll try normal channels instead :)
[09:37] <Tribaal> is it uncommon / weird to share flats in Ireland? Or is it just bad luck?
[09:38] <slashtom> common enough, http://daft.ie/
[09:41] <ebel> quite common.
[09:45] <Tribaal> alright
[09:45] <Tribaal> thanks :)
[10:15] <dumb1224> my virtual terminal is behaving strangly...
[10:15] <dumb1224> it doesn't wrap the line that is longer than the width of the window
[10:16] <dstaar1> did you try to resize your terminal window?
[10:16] <dumb1224> it then displays random charactors,usually some command you type previously. any solution?
[10:17] <dumb1224> yea, after maximise the window its fine
[10:17] <dstaar1> that sounds really strange
[10:17] <dumb1224> but only within the width of the window.
[10:18] <dumb1224> i ssh onto another machine and this behaviour is gone,,so must have something to do with the terminal
[10:18] <dstaar1> it seems so.
[10:19] <dumb1224> I have also installed konsole and it's the same behaviour
[10:19] <dumb1224> although I didn't install the whole KDE
[10:20] <dstaar1> sounds weird
[10:21] <dstaar1> but i have absolutely no idea
[10:22] <dumb1224> no problem thanks all the same...:D
[10:23] <BenChapman> Slashtom Tribaal: It's easy enough *once* you find the right place with the right people :P
[10:23] <BenChapman> Short term lets are a bitch to find though :(
[10:24] <dumb1224> such a beaUtiFull day!! ^_____^
[10:24] <dumb1224> indian summer?
[10:24] <dstaar1> also in germany a nice and sunny day
[10:24] <BenChapman> :D
[10:25] <dumb1224> dstaar1: you are in germany?
[10:25] <BenChapman> Shame I'm stuck in an office, but at least there's a huge window beside me
[10:25] <dstaar1> yep i'm in germany
[10:26] <dstaar1> i'll live in dublin for half a year from 2012 to 2013 that's why i am here
[10:27] <dumb1224> dstaar1: nice!
[10:27] <BenChapman> dstaar1: erasmus year or something like that?
[10:28] <dstaar1> that was my plan but my university has no exchange contract with dublin
[10:29] <BenChapman> Ah, that sucks. :(
[10:29] <BenChapman> So what are you doing instead?
[10:29] <dstaar1> yeah a lot. my plan now is to work in dublin
[10:29] <BenChapman> oh cool. Found a job yet ?
[10:30] <BenChapman> actually, may be a bit early :P
[10:30] <dstaar1> no it's too early.
[10:30] <BenChapman> Yeah, so what is it that you do?
[10:30] <dstaar1> i wanna start my search in fall next year
[10:31] <dstaar1> right now i study computer science in a master program
[10:32]  * slashtom gets told to go out on the roof and use up megabytes... lovely day for it :P
[10:32]  * BenChapman wishes there was a roof...
[10:32] <BenChapman> there is technically a roof but it's locked
[10:33] <slashtom> well, it's a large 4th floor balcony pointing out towards the equater
[10:33] <dstaar1> BenChapman maybe you know some good addresses for getting a job.
[10:34] <BenChapman> dstaar1: I'm afraid I'm not sure what specifically you're looking for, is it engineering type jobs or more software based?
[10:34] <BenChapman> Or just anything you can get?
[10:34] <slashtom> dstaar1: try monster.ie
[10:34] <dumb1224> slashtom: you mean facing south?
[10:34] <BenChapman> dstaar1: http://technicaljobs.ie/ might be a good place to start also
[10:35] <dstaar1> i prefer software based, preferable as programmer
[10:35] <slashtom> yes, that's the direction of the eqautor
[10:35] <BenChapman> dstaar1: and what languages do you use?
[10:35] <dumb1224> our roof is full of solar panels and research equips
[10:36] <slashtom> the satellite is above the indian ocean, and i need to test today :P
[10:36] <BenChapman> slashtom: sounds aweosme :P
[10:37] <slashtom> $5/MB though
[10:37] <BenChapman> that's how much you get charged?
[10:37] <slashtom> aye
[10:37] <BenChapman> that's not much more than mobile internet cost in Ireland a few years ago :P
[10:38] <slashtom> yes, and call rates of around $1/min
[10:38] <slashtom> although if you want 256Kb of guarenteed bandwidth that will cost you about $30/min
[10:40] <dstaar1> it's like a talk from 1992
[10:40] <BenChapman> lol
[10:40] <BenChapman> I wasn't even born then
[10:41] <dstaar1> oh, dear my young fellow :D
[10:42] <BenChapman> ;) 1993... a year later, 24 days before a japanese man started work on Ruby
[10:42] <dumb1224> slashtom: what satellite? commercial or research one?
[10:42] <dstaar1> god bless Matz :D
[10:42] <dumb1224> slashtom: i see
[10:42] <slashtom> commercial, inmarsat
[10:43] <ebel> dstaar1: try mailing lists & look at the archives. e.g. ILUG, python ireland, ruby ireland, etc.
[10:43] <dstaar1> BenChapman: You are a ruby lover?
[10:43] <BenChapman> Gosh no, not at all. I'm a PHP dev
[10:43] <ebel> (for jobs that is. and apply for jobs from a long time ago, I've replied to job adverts that were 12 months old, etc.)
[10:43] <dstaar1> hi ebel.
[10:43] <dstaar1> i already subscribed at the ILUG mailing list
[10:44] <BenChapman> Speaking of which. this OpenERP thread has been going for ages
[10:45] <dumb1224> dstaar1: which part of germany are you from?I've been to the baden wurttemberg state last summer
[10:45] <dstaar1> i live in the suburban area of berlin
[10:45] <dumb1224> dstaar1: black forest,,,nice place
[10:45] <dstaar1> in the south east
[10:45] <dumb1224> oh cool
[10:46] <dstaar1> it is a nice region.
[10:46] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:46] <dstaar1> but far away from baden würtemberg :D
[10:46] <BenChapman> hey czajkowski
[10:46] <czajkowski> BenChapman: howdy
[10:46] <czajkowski> hows things
[10:46] <dumb1224> yea...technically I went to freiburg,,,in the black forest area
[10:47] <dstaar1> ebel: You mean it's a good strategy to apply for old job offerings?
[10:47] <dstaar1> it's nice for vacation but i don't wanna work there ^^
[10:47] <ebel> dstaar1: yes, apply for old job offerings. A lot of the time the company might not have found a person, or they might be still hiring.
[10:48] <BenChapman> I've never actually applied for a job through an advert... I've always gone to companies I wanted to work for (not that I have much experience of it)
[10:48] <dstaar1> nice, thank you. That's smart.
[10:49] <ebel> BenChapman: that works too. :)
[10:49] <dstaar1> is there something like an overview for startups in dublin?
[10:49] <BenChapman> dstaar1: as in like a list of startups?
[10:50] <dstaar1> something like that, yes.
[10:50] <dstaar1> i'm just collecting strategies et cetera.
[10:50] <dstaar1> like i said, i'll start applying in february, march.
[10:51] <slashtom> you mean like Twitter? ;)
[10:51] <dstaar1> twitter search for jobs in dublin is really great
[10:51] <BenChapman> dstaar1: Oh yeah, the irish twitter community is pretty close knit :) It's easy enough to find people and network!
[10:52] <BenChapman> other places to look would be http://www.thedigitalhub.com/ , http://www.gec.ie/
[10:52] <BenChapman> companies in there
[10:52] <BenChapman> Dogpatch Labs (a startup incubator) launches on Thursday, would be worth a look :)
[10:52] <dstaar1> i mean #ubuntu-ie is the best example, i appreciate your help and until now it seems pretty easy to get in contact with people
[10:52] <slashtom> i meant, that twitter is one of the latest dublin startups ;)
[10:53] <BenChapman> slashtom: not really a startup is it?
[10:53] <BenChapman> :/
[10:53] <dstaar1> slashtom: sorry didn't understand that :D
[10:54] <slashtom> right, i need to head outside to look for the satellite, bbl
[10:55] <dumb1224> I'm a bit confused...search for companies on twitter or jobs on twitter?
[10:55] <dstaar1> actually jobs, a search like: "jobs, dublin"
[10:56] <BenChapman> dumb1224: well if you network with irish people on twitter, particularly dev community then you'll likely find people who will gladly give your CV a bit of time
[10:56] <dumb1224> wow...and what tools you use to search tweets?some specialised webapp I suppose?
[10:56] <BenChapman> dstaar1: Not into web development at all are you? :p
[10:56] <ebel> yes, find companies on twitter and ask the,
[10:56] <ebel> Have a look at conferences in ireland, and look at the name of companies speaking/sponsoring them
[10:56] <BenChapman> That's how I got my first contract work:)
[10:57] <dstaar1> sometimes i do web development with rails or java ;)
[10:57] <dstaar1> dumb: i just use the web search or the twitter client in my phone
[10:57] <dumb1224> thanks for the tips
[10:58] <dstaar1> your welcome
[11:00] <dstaar1> my hope at all is to get in contact with people who hire, or getting hints for nice companies.
[11:00] <BenChapman> dstaar1: well, my company is pretty nice ;)
[11:01] <dstaar1> i mean in berlin it won't be a problem for me cause i know the community there ;)
[11:01] <dstaar1> benchapman: what's the name for your company?
[11:01] <BenChapman> http://disruptivedev.com/
[11:01] <BenChapman> but we primarily do php/mysql
[11:01] <BenChapman> that said, we're using java a lot lately
[11:02] <dstaar1> i'm flexible ;)
[11:02] <BenChapman> and looking to expand rapidly in the next year, so I'll keep you informed and in mind :)
[11:02] <dstaar1> sounds great :)
[11:02] <dstaar1> i'm the man you're looking for :D
[11:03] <dstaar1> i'm going to take my launch
[11:03] <dstaar1> see you later
[13:53] <dumb1224> hi,if I run ubuntu hardy, 8.04 pretty old release,
[13:53] <dumb1224> I find that packages available in 10.04 are not in the 8.04 repository
[13:54] <dumb1224> my source repository is the irish one, is that normal?
[13:54] <ebel> sometimes new packages are added
[13:55] <ebel> also old releases don't have the package repository anymore
[13:55] <BenChapman> ebel: is it possible to add the new repos to the old, or do you essentially end up dist-upgrading
[13:55] <BenChapman> ?
[13:55] <ebel> you'd have to upgrade
[13:56] <ebel> the old repos are still available at old-releases.ubuntu.com or something similar.
[13:56] <dumb1224> so the old release repository is not getting new packages?
[13:57] <ebel> you can't really add 10.04 repos to 8.04 OS. it just wouldn't pull packages from them
[13:57] <ebel> dumb1224: it won't get any updates or changes, not even security fixes.
[13:57] <ebel> There are very few good reasons *not* to upgrade.
[13:58] <dumb1224> ebel: hmmm.....it supposes to be a long term support release right?
[13:58] <ebel> long term support being 3 years on desktop, yes
[13:59] <dumb1224> right. I see what you mean. better keep up to date then
[15:50] <slashtom> "cztab playing with ubuntu for windows"??? - from the twitterweb
[15:56] <czajkowski> yes
[15:56]  * slashtom is confused
[15:57] <czajkowski> work
[15:58] <czajkowski> I use a windows desktop
[15:58] <czajkowski> but I still use U1
[15:58] <ebel> I saw you can stream music with U1. Do you use that?
[15:58] <slashtom> i thought you were an open source evangelist?
[15:59] <slashtom> isn't ubuntuone the music thing that doesn't work here?
[15:59] <ebel> partially works here.
[16:00] <ebel> But I'm unsure if streaming is different, since there are different licenceing models.
[16:00] <slashtom> this is why i like jamendo.com - it's the same everywhere, non-discriminatory
[16:00] <ebel> But I can't find out.
[16:00] <ebel> (well I haven't looked too hard yet, more curious about personal recommendations ATM)
[16:03] <slashtom> deadly, my super-TV-b-gone has shipped
[16:03] <slashtom> now i can end this torment of sports being shown in bars :P
[16:05] <czajkowski> ebel: did you apply for the Ubuntu offical book
[16:05] <ebel> czajkowski: ages ago
[16:06] <ebel> Is there a new one?
[16:06] <czajkowski> yeah
[16:06] <czajkowski> like people had to order a few months ago
[16:06] <czajkowski> if you didnt get it
[16:06] <czajkowski> you need to drop me a line with your details and I'll follow up on it
[20:43] <tdr112> evening


[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:25] <user|67> secure boot
[13:26] <user|67> is secure boot supported by Kubuntu?
[13:34] <alkisg> Yes :)
[15:29] <memphisto> i've got luks encrypted disk
[15:30] <memphisto> and want to add additional disk as cache disk
[15:30] <memphisto> how should i go about it . should i encrypt it too ? or just extended without encryption
[16:52] <Guest76> Hello everybody :-)  Please how can I mount a folder that I created in the Basis folder?