[00:00] <stlsaint> teolicy, maybe here.... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage
[00:00] <jakerue> losher - OK off to work.  I think I found a thread that will help me
[00:00] <losher> jakerue: ok, so I see about 50G on sda1, 100G on sda5 and 11G on sda6, for a total of 160G which is your disk. So what exactly was resized, sda5?
[00:00] <stlsaint> mib_mib, are you using public or private ip address in browser?
[00:00] <bastid_raZor> mib_mib: possibly your isp is blocking port 80, to verify try a non standard port.. for example 9999
[00:00] <jakerue> losher - yep.  Gotta run though.  What commands should I be looking for to make this work?
[00:00] <|2-bits|> @dual: I believe it is. Hold on a minute
[00:01] <losher> jakerue: df -h would be next...
[00:01] <dual> |2-bits|, ok, cool :)
[00:01] <mib_mib> stlsaint: i tried both the internal and external ip's
[00:01] <mib_mib> stlsaint: neither worked
[00:01] <losher> kingfishr: still there?
[00:01] <crizzle> Hey all - anyone fancy helping me get to grips with getting wireless working (complete and utter n00b here) :D
[00:02] <jakerue> losher - that only shows % of sda1 and sdb1 ....sda5 not shown
[00:02] <jakerue> losher - thanks for the help but I really have to run.  Next time
[00:02] <losher> jakerue: that usually means sda5 isn't mounted. That would explain why you don't see it... ok, next time
[00:03] <fccf> benc: from what I can tell there are 'some' problems, however if you are running 8.10 or 8.04 thrift is available already compiled here https://launchpad.net/~txamqpteam/+archive/ppa
[00:03] <stlsaint> mib_mib, you using nginix for load balance or revers proxy?
[00:03] <benc> fccf: cool. thanks
[00:03] <mnaines> How can I get my laptop to see a shared printer that's connected to my desktop?
[00:03] <|2-bits|> @dual: Okay so I dont' have ubuntu open right this minute BUT if I remember you go to You have to go to System->Sessions and what not
[00:03] <mib_mib> stlsaint: the one thing I think i could have misconfigured, is the virtualconf file - I don't have a domain name like www.blah.com - i just want to use my ip address, but for servername and serveraliais, i just put bs stuff www.first.com and first.com
[00:04] <|2-bits|> and there should be a window with two tabs... the open one should have your start up items and the second one should have a check box that says "remember your sessions or something like that?
[00:04] <fccf> benc: see also here http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/THRIFT-71 and  http://wiki.apache.org/thrift/GettingUbuntuPackages
[00:04] <mib_mib> stlsaint: reverse proxy - it handles the static content, and passes it through to apache for dyanmic stuff
[00:04] <dual> |2-bits|, yes. Great. Thanks :D
[00:05] <dual> Just hope it works tomorrow when I turn it on again :)
[00:05] <kingfishr> losher, yes
[00:06] <stlsaint> mib_mib, so why the reverse proxy setup...if its all local?
[00:06] <losher> kingfishr: run synaptic and search for glib. Look for 'libglib'. That'll tell you what your current version is, and whether there's a later version in the repository you can upgrade to...
[00:06] <stlsaint> mib_mib, and what do you have in your apache2 /var/www?
[00:07] <kingfishr> losher, yeah the problem is that the latest version is older than what webkit wants
[00:07] <mib_mib> stlsaint: i don't want it all to be local, rather, what i would like to do is be able to go to my ip address, and have a django project set up
[00:07] <kingfishr> losher, I'm trying to build newer glib myself in my own directory and then pass that as an argument b/c I think webkit will use GLIB_LIBS when looking for glib
[00:08] <mib_mib> stlsaint: but i have apache set up with mod-wsgi for django
[00:08] <mnaines> Samba is the one for file and print sharing, right?
[00:08] <mib_mib> stlsaint: so when i do like curl <IP_ADDRESS> i get some stuff back, but when i go to my ip address, i get nothing
[00:09] <stlsaint> so loopback is config wrong maybe? you have firewall?
[00:09] <mib_mib> maybe ufw, but i don't think its misconfigured, let me check
[00:09] <losher> kingfishr: yes, that's what I'd do next. If webkit doesn't use GLIB_LIBS you can maybe look in the makefiles for the library and edit it so it finds your local copy. It's a pain though...
[00:09] <fccf> mnaines: yes, with windows ... for printing in linux networks Cups , and fileshareing ... well there are a number of options
[00:10] <mnaines> fccf, I use Gutenprint drivers for printing
[00:10] <Chun1> Having a slight problem: when I'm playing music with audacious, I don't get sound from flash videos in firefox. If I load firefox/flash first, audacious refuses to play anything until I close firefox
[00:11] <stlsaint> mib_mib, you seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Django
[00:11] <mnaines> Chun1: I use Rythmbox for music
[00:11] <{Onyx}> Hmmm, thought I had sorted out all my sound issues but I found another one. I've got my dedicated card for speakers and my on board for headphones and mic. All that's working, the problem is that the volume slider from the speaker icon is adjusting volume for the on board even though I have default set to the x-fi
[00:13] <hwilde> !clone
[00:13] <MenZa> # 00 08 * * * in crontab would run the following command every day at 8am, yeah?
[00:13] <Raydiation> beta out yet?
[00:13] <mnaines> fccf, what is a good way to share files and printers between Linux machines without creating a security risk?
[00:13] <{Onyx}> If I open volume controls I can adjust the volume so it has to be some setting in sound prefs but everything looks like it should be defaulting to the x-fi
[00:14] <{Onyx}> mnaines keep it behind a fireawll
[00:14] <mib_mib> stlsaint: i checked UFW and made sure that the rule to allow tcp on port 80 is enabled
[00:14] <Hillshum> mnaines: Use a private network
[00:14] <losher> mnaines: totally agree with {Onyx} ...
[00:14] <kaashif> program called fritzing gives me a .sh file. i can open it from terminal but not by double clicking on the sh file. solutions?
[00:14] <heater_> I have a power management problem in Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty. Settings are set to NEVER put monitor nor computer to sleep, but monitor sleeps after 20 min. Any ideas?
[00:14] <kaashif> here's the sh file pastebinned: http://pastebin.com/m1b17bc2
[00:15] <{Onyx}> Unless you're running some type of server there's no need to have anything from your network not behind a firewall.
[00:15] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I have the kernel firewall configured for restrictive mode and I have my two computers on a separate subnet with its own router
[00:15] <testNow34> where can I get the svn subversion 1.7 client for jaunty?
[00:15] <{Onyx}> So you're trying to print/file share between the two subnets/
[00:15] <{Onyx}> ?
[00:15] <hwilde> MenZa, yes
[00:16] <MenZa> hwilde: thanks
[00:16] <kaashif> nobody knows about sh files ?
[00:16] <kandjar> what the easiest way to know if a file has DOS style ending or Linux style ending without changing the file?
[00:16] <{Onyx}> properties
[00:17] <mnaines> {Onyx}: No, my laptop and desktop are on the same /27 subnet, which is separate from the /24 subnet that the rest of the network operates on...My printer is on the desktop but I want to be able to print remotely from the laptop
[00:17] <mib_mib> stlsaint: yah - i've set up this exact server before on a VPS, now i'm trying to set it up in the same way at my house, but for some reason i can't connect to it outside of my router
[00:17] <hwilde> MenZa, the # sign comments out the line however, and you don't need double digits just   0  8   will do
[00:17] <{Onyx}> then you should be fine
[00:17] <mib_mib> bastid_raZor: why would my isp block port 80? I need port 80 because i'm running an http server
[00:18] <MenZa> hwilde: excellent, cheers.
[00:18] <{Onyx}> mib, there's no way your ISP is blocking port 80
[00:18] <sjoerd>
[00:18] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I don't know how to configure either computer to allow printer sharing, though
[00:18] <{Onyx}> what type of printer?
[00:18] <{Onyx}> you could adhoc the printer in to the network
[00:18] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Canon Pixma iP4500...Connects to the desktop via USB
[00:18] <stlsaint> mib_mib, hhmm...something is looking in the wrong place if you have django setup right...should start from basics
[00:19] <hwilde> printer sharing is here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba#Sharing%20CUPS%20Printers
[00:19] <stlsaint> router>firewall...etc etc then move to apace2.conf...django setup
[00:19] <bastid_raZor> mib_mib: some isp's do. my former isp blocked ports 22,23, and port 80. i had to use different ports for ssh also.
[00:19] <{Onyx}> Are there any usb hook ups to your router?
[00:19] <mib_mib> bastid_raZor: can i use different ports for the http server? how will people access it then without putting the port?
[00:19] <mnaines> {Onyx}: No...The router is a D-Link WUA-2340
[00:19] <{Onyx}> Hmmmm, I'd go with hwilde's link for printer sharing then
[00:20] <hwilde> yes.
[00:20] <losher> mib_mib: some isps have a 'no servers' policy, so the block may be deliberate...
[00:20] <mib_mib> stlsaint: well, i think one of my main problems is the router, and the second problem is maybe something having to do that i'm using a domain name but i don't actually have it registered maybe?
[00:20] <mnaines> hwilde: I use Gutenprint drivers...I don't know if the instructions for CUPS would apply to the Gutenprint drivers
[00:20] <Blehk> This sed script doesn't work: sed -i 's/ignoreip = <IP_ADDRESS>/ignoreip = <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>/\14/g' /etc/fail2ban/jail.conf How do you escape  the slash in the cidr address?
[00:20] <mustafa> \leave
[00:20] <{Onyx}> the only ports I'm aware of that an ISP would be port 25 to prevent spam bots
[00:20] <hwilde> mnaines, install the driver locally, share with cups/samba.
[00:21] <bastid_raZor> mib_mib: people would have to use the port you specify. ex. mine is bastid:9999
[00:21] <mnaines> hwilde: Are Cups and Gutenprint compatible with each other?
[00:21] <losher> mib_mib: eliminate the second problem for the moment by using the 'raw' ip address in your url...
[00:21] <hwilde> mnaines, you use the driver to print locally.  you use cups/samba to share the printer.
[00:22] <stlsaint> mib_mib, yea instead of names use ip address...i dont have my domain linked to my ip yet so i do all my site editing via ip thru browser
[00:22] <bastid_raZor> mib_mib: yes you can use any port you wish. set it in the router to forward to 80 or have apache listen on a different port
[00:22] <mib_mib> losher: exactly what i'm trying to do
[00:22] <mib_mib> i am putting my router's ip address in, but nothing comes up
[00:22] <hlpmeplz> how do I select UTC in tzconfig?  (working from shell)
[00:23] <Beardbar_> whats the command to find file sizes larger then 10mb again?
[00:23] <hwilde> Blehk, use a comma instead of a / for the sed delimiter, then you don't have to escape the slashes.  or escape them with a backslash
[00:23] <{Onyx}> mib, are you trying to get incoming connections from outside or within your network?
[00:23] <stlsaint> mib_mib, sorta what i just said aint it... =)
[00:23] <Blehk> alright, cool thanks hwilde
[00:24] <m0r0n> My Compiz features aren't working, how do I reset it?
[00:24] <hwilde> m0r0n, system, preferences, appearance
[00:24] <losher> mib_mib: the router has to be configured to forward the port. Also, did you mention a kernel firewall somewhere? That too has to be configured to forward the port. You can choose any port as long as you're consistent. The use a url with the port embedded, e.g. http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/foo
[00:24] <stlsaint> m0r0n, go into compiz settings manager and set to defaults
[00:24] <zofrex> tearing my hair out, done extensive googling to no avail - I cannot have "nvidia-glx-185" (or 190) installed concurrently with "xorg", installing one (with apt-get) removes the other. Help! (Ubuntu 9.04)
[00:25] <mib_mib> I am using UFW, i set up a rule to allow port 80/tcp - so thats fine
[00:25] <marcellus> there is a 185 and 190 now?
[00:25] <mib_mib> I am forwarding port 80 on my router to the ip address of the server
[00:25] <zofrex> yes
[00:25] <zofrex> 185 isn't particualrly new
[00:25] <mib_mib> So I should instead forward a different port on my router?
[00:25] <saniasan> pidgin 2.6.2 how can I enable video and audio
[00:25] <hwilde> zofrex, sudo nvidia-xconfig
[00:25] <mib_mib> and listen on a different port for my nginx server?
[00:25] <JohnCDI> ive been using ubuntu for a little while now and ive programmed some smaller things in windows and i tried to run a simple "hello world" program in C i have build-essential installed and the libraries but for some reason it calls a syntax error to the printf function any help?
[00:26] <hwilde> JohnCDI, pastebin the code and the error please
[00:26] <stlsaint> yes mib_mib you gotta change that as well...just the post tho...not the ip
[00:26] <Legendre> Question of the evening.. How the heck do I force X to use a native driver for a grapics chipset, and not the default VESA FB driver?
[00:26] <zofrex> hwilde: after installing xgl, or xorg?
[00:26] <zofrex> *glx
[00:26] <JohnCDI> sorry *gcc compiles it fine the errors come up when in terminal i ./programname
[00:26] <losher> mib_mib: so first step, from the server, can you contact http://localhost ?
[00:26] <mib_mib> losher: yes, i'm remote, but i can curl localhost and get back some html stuff
[00:27] <hwilde> zofrex, it should take care of it for you
[00:27] <losher> mib_mib: 2nd step, from inside the firewall on a different machine, can you contact http://server
[00:27] <zofrex> hwilde: command not found :P
[00:27] <JohnCDI> #include <stdio.h>
[00:27] <JohnCDI> main()
[00:27] <JohnCDI> {
[00:27] <JohnCDI>
[00:27] <JohnCDI>     printf("Hello, World");
[00:27] <JohnCDI>     return 0;
[00:27] <FloodBot1> JohnCDI: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:27] <hwilde> zofrex, install it...
[00:28] <hwilde> !paste > JohnCDI
[00:28] <{Onyx}> no closing }
[00:28] <{Onyx}> john
[00:28] <hwilde> lol he got kicked before the paste finished
[00:28] <zofrex> it takes 20 seconds to run a google on this machine.. if you know which package it's in off the top of your head that'd be useful
[00:28] <mib_mib> losher: the firewall is strictly on the server, i can, however, ssh into that machine, and do curl localhost; from my other machine behind the router though, if i go to that internal ip .... <IP_ADDRESS>, i get nothing
[00:28] <hwilde> zofrex, that is the name of the package.   or aptitude search nvidia-xconfig
[00:28] <saniasan> and open not exe open .c
[00:28] <JohnCDI> oops.
[00:28] <JohnCDI> lol
[00:29] <saniasan> :)
[00:29] <zofrex> ok I think I have some package management problem then 'cos that package doesn't exist
[00:29] <hwilde> zofrex, hold on...  it was provided by nvidia-glx-180
[00:29] <{Onyx}> mib is <IP_ADDRESS> the server or the router?
[00:30] <hwilde> zofrex, why do you want 185 or 190?   180 seems to be the newest one I see
[00:30] <losher> JohnCDI: you sound confused. Syntax errors come from the compiler. Run-time errors happen when you run the program. Which are you seeing?
[00:30] <mib_mib> {Onyx}: its the internal ip of the server
[00:30] <hwilde> JohnCDI, pastebin the code and the error please
[00:30] <zofrex> hwilde: uh dunno. it was in a step by step tutorial for setting up the software I want (xbmc) on the machine I own (AsRock NetTop)
[00:30] <zofrex> if the 180 supports VDPAU then I'm happy with that
[00:31] <{Onyx}> if you're port forwarding 80 to the server try hitting the router
[00:31] <JohnCDI> im trying to use paste bin.
[00:31] <losher> mib_mib: so do you expect http://<IP_ADDRESS> to work i.e. the server firewall allows it?
[00:31] <mib_mib> {Onyx}: same, get nothing
[00:31] <{Onyx}> err port forwarding 80 on the router
[00:31] <Legendre> Anyone know? How to specify a particular driver for Xorg?
[00:31] <hwilde> zofrex, sry I dunno, I installed 180 and it gave me a binary nvidia-xconfig which helped, then it enabled the driver and nvidia-settings through the gui menu
[00:31] <mib_mib> losher: i expect everything on port 80 to work - the firewall lets all tcp on port 80
[00:31] <{Onyx}> Did you make sure you were allowing that connection and not denying it? I've done that before on mistake.
[00:31] <marcellus> Legendre: edit xorg.conf ?
[00:31] <nanotube> Legendre: edit xorg.conf
[00:32] <Legendre> ubuntu always defaults to vesafb (I think)..
[00:32] <mib_mib> {Onyx}: yep, just checked my rules
[00:32] <stlsaint> mib_mib, if all ip info is good its coming down to the conf files
[00:32] <Legendre> nanotube: marcellus - there's notihng in there, lol!
[00:32] <losher> mib_mib: can you ping the server from the client (what's the clients ip address btw?)
[00:32] <nanotube> Legendre: put stuff in there.
[00:32] <zofrex> hwilde: 180 is installing without uninstalling xorg
[00:32] <JohnCDI> #include <stdio.h> main()  {          printf("Hello, World");     return 0; } ./hello.c: line 5: syntax error near unexpected token `"Hello, World"' ./hello.c: line 5: `    printf("Hello, World");'
[00:32] <{Onyx}> Is the server behind the router?
[00:32] <hwilde> Legendre, in the device section for the video card specify the driver like:      Driver         "nvidia"
[00:32] <zofrex> any idea why 185 and 190 have issues?
[00:32] <Legendre> like seven lines of generic-y stuff
[00:32] <mib_mib> {Onyx}: yes, which is the main problem
[00:32] <{Onyx}> try taking down the fireawll on the server then
[00:33] <hwilde> zofrex, because they are beta?  dunno I am happy with 180 and I have a quadro fx 570 pretty new
[00:33] <marcellus> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[00:33] <zofrex> alright
[00:33] <m0r0n> Anyone have a mobo with express gate?
[00:33] <zofrex> I'm just trying to get OpenGL acceleration in X (weirdly VDPAU worked :S)
[00:33] <mib_mib> losher: i can ping it beautifully, as the client is behind the same router
[00:33] <Legendre> hwilde: so anything I put in there will override the default?
[00:33] <_AaLinux> I want to play .mp3 files with rhythmbox , which plugins would i have to install?
[00:34] <mib_mib> {Onyx}: done, nothing stil
[00:34] <{Onyx}> restricted-extras legendre
[00:34] <hwilde> Legendre, theoretically
[00:34] <Legendre> hwilde: you made my point
[00:34] <{Onyx}> err aalinux
[00:34] <{Onyx}> Hmmmm,
[00:34] <{Onyx}> You have a port scanner mib?
[00:34] <losher> mib_mib: then I would expect  http://<IP_ADDRESS> to work 'beautifully' too. I agree with {Onyx}. Try turning off the firewall temporarily....
[00:34] <stickboy> anyone know how to get transmission 1.6* or 1.7* on 8.10 64bit?
[00:35] <Legendre> hwilde: I haven't dealt with X on deb/ubu before, and I was really taken aback when I saw that .conf file
[00:35] <mib_mib> losher: completely turned off
[00:35] <losher> mib_mib: and...?
[00:35] <_AaLinux> {Onyx}: What are the inner elements of restricted-extras?
[00:35] <mib_mib> losher: nothing! haha
[00:35] <dlp211> hey guys...just looking for a recomendation....what do u guys think is the best VNC client? (must be available for win32)
[00:35] <mib_mib> losher: it must be the port forwarding isn't working....?
[00:35] <{Onyx}> aalinux lots of codecs that don't come standard
[00:35] <maccam94> dlp211: tightvnc is good
[00:35] <mgv2> there is no fucus mode on aiming at open arena? - i dont understand how can i hit with such small dot
[00:35] <marcellus> mib_mib: what are you trying to do?
[00:36] <mib_mib> marcellus: run a server behind a router
[00:36] <dlp211> yea i have tight....just wondering if anyone was using somethin else
[00:36] <{Onyx}> I've got a one shot command around here that installs everything media, let me see if i can find it
[00:36] <losher> mib_mib: from the inside-the-network client, there isn't any port forwarding. It's direct to  http://<IP_ADDRESS> port 80. Nothing in the server logs?
[00:36] <stlsaint> mib_mib, yea check router setup
[00:36] <marcellus> mib_mib: and what have you done so far?
[00:36] <maccam94> i'm temporarily installing ubuntu on a USB stick to be used on only one machine for a week or two. should i use the liveusb creator or just run the normal ubuntu installer?
[00:36] <dlp211> mib what router u have
[00:36] <mib_mib> losher: from the inside-the-network-client, <IP_ADDRESS> port 80 givves nothing
[00:37] <losher> mib_mib: what's the client ip address?
[00:38] <mib_mib> <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:39] <mib_mib> marcellus: everything works on the server side, so from the server itself curl localhost works fine - set up the config files and virtual confs, from the outside, nothing comes in
[00:39] <stlsaint> mib_mib, i think there are too many hands in this issue...hope ya get it fixed...getting a little crowded! =)
[00:39] <mib_mib> i guess i can try changing the port that is forwarded
[00:39] <marcellus> mib_mib: does it work within the LAN?
[00:39] <mib_mib> stlsaint: very much so, thanks!
[00:40] <mib_mib> marcellus: nope
[00:40] <losher> mib_mib: ok, so a directly connected client (with no router involvement) fails, but it works for localhost, The kernel firewall is disabled (sure?). Next thing I'd check is the server logs to see if the server even sees the client request....
[00:40] <mib_mib> losher: it doesn't see the request it looks like
[00:40] <eminor> hello :)
[00:40] <mib_mib> losher: i checked the apache and nginx logs
[00:41] <losher> mib_mib: the only way I can explain that is if the kernel firewall is blocking the request...
[00:41] <marcellus> mib_mib: have you checked the router log?
[00:41] <mib_mib> losher: i am using ubuntu, and have installed 'ufw' - i did ufw disable, so it is stopped completely.
[00:41] <jack_> salut ttlm
[00:42] <musikgoat> mib_mib: anything in "iptables -L"
[00:42] <losher> mib_mib: double check that with sudo iptables -L
[00:43] <losher> JohnCDI: your latest example compiles & runs for me...
[00:44] <{Onyx}> I need to get back to learning programming as well.
[00:44] <{Onyx}> I can modify code like no one's business but can't code anything from scratch
[00:44] <mib_mib> has some stuff, but just some BS, here is hte pastebin http://pastebin.com/d2ef28e9f
[00:44] <mib_mib> marcellus: i just enabled logging on the router, so i'm checking now
[00:45] <marcellus> mib_mib: can you ping within the LAN?
[00:45] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Now I have another problem...All the photos I print are grainy, and no amount of altering the settings fixes it
[00:45] <{Onyx}> marcellus: he can
[00:45] <losher> {Onyx}: some people work on 'sustaining' all their lives: they don't originate code, they only fix bugs in existing code. Nothing wrong with that...
[00:46] <{Onyx}> Yeah, that's cool if I have something to work with as a template. But sometimes you need to do something new.
[00:46] <mnaines> {Onyx}: You ever tried recursive computation when coding?
[00:46] <mib_mib> marcellus: yep, can ping within the lan
[00:46] <mib_mib> marcellus: the internal IP
[00:46] <marcellus> but you can telnet to port 80
[00:47] <marcellus> can't
[00:48] <mnaines> mib_mib: Is there a way you can check the routing table?
[00:48] <losher> {Onyx}: well, start small, with a well-defined requirement for something...
[00:50] <Bluey> having problems with the 64 bit version of ubuntu 9.04 version 2.6.28-15 causing lockups - doesn't do this with -14 -- any known issuses?
[00:51] <mib_mib> telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 80 is refused immediately
[00:51] <mnaines> mib_mib: Are you trying to telnet outside the network?
[00:51] <mib_mib> mnaines: no, inside the network
[00:51] <mnaines> mib_mib: Is the router configured to disable telnet?
[00:52] <mib_mib> i wouldn't think so
[00:52] <mib_mib> but i can't be sure
[00:52] <mnaines> mib_mib: Most routers, you have to manually tell them to enable telnet.  All the ones I have worked with will not allow telnet or FTP by default
[00:53] <coz_> guys if I get error    protoc: not found
[00:53] <coz_>    what would I be missing?
[00:53] <musikgoat> mnaines: hes looking for http headers on port 80, not accessing telnet
[00:53] <mib_mib> mnaines: okay - i'm not actually concerned with telnet though, more concerned with tcp
[00:53] <mnaines> mib_mib: You need CLI mode for that...
[00:54] <mib_mib> wait - i guess it doesn't make sense to use port 80 for port forwarding....wouldn't this mean that all my incoming traffic would forward to my server?
[00:54] <musikgoat> mib_mib: just so i understand right, your trying to access a web server from a LAN and its failing?
[00:54] <marcellus> I don't see why the router would limit what you can do within the LAN by default.
[00:55] <mib_mib> musikgoat: setting up a server inside a lan (i.e. behind a router)
[00:55] <mib_mib> musikgoat: i'm also inside the lan, failing hard, yes
[00:55] <mnaines> mib_mib: 80 is the port you need to get out to the internet.  You want to do port forwarding, you might want to use a less-congested port
[00:55] <musikgoat> mnaines: that is not good advice
[00:56] <physic> can one see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81895
[00:56] <musikgoat> mib_mib: first troubleshoot the server not working in the lan, then troubleshoot port forwarding, which yes you will need to do to allow incoming requests to be routed to your server
[00:56] <musikgoat> mib_mib: I would suggest dropping all your iptables stuff
[00:57] <marcellus> he has no such such stuff
[00:57] <mib_mib> drop all iptables? here they are: is this actually anything significant?  http://pastebin.com/d2ef28e9f
[00:57] <{Onyx}> Hmm, anyone fixed the annoying sound 9.04 makes when starting a video/music that's flash ?
[00:57] <mnaines> marcellus: The reason you want to limit activity between computers on a LAN is because 90% of security breaches come from inside the network
[00:58] <musikgoat> mib_mib: then on the server, netstat -nl  and check that the server is listening on 80
[00:58] <physic> when i use sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.6  in terminal it will tell me couldn't find package libssl0.9.6
[00:58] <heater_> I have a power management problem in Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty. Settings are set to NEVER put monitor nor computer to sleep, but monitor sleeps after 10 min. Any ideas?
[00:58] <mnaines> physic: Try taking off the version number...apt-get should install the most recent stable version by default
[00:58] <eminor> physic, this thread is from 2005
[00:59] <{Onyx}> heater_ check bios
[00:59] <marcellus> on my d-link it is called Virtual Server and lists the common services and allows you to enable each i.e. port forwarding
[00:59] <heater_> Onyx: ok onyx i will do that
[00:59] <physic> ok leave it
[00:59] <{Onyx}> I was having a similar problem with my computer locking up when entering sleep mode even though i had sleep mode disabled in ubuntu
[00:59] <physic> how i can download yahoo messenger client?
[01:00] <{Onyx}> physic use pidgin
[01:00] <mib_mib> musikgoat: hmmm.... it has listening on <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[01:00] <{Onyx}> it has support for pretty much all messengers
[01:00] <physic> i have pidgin but my internet not good
[01:00] <musikgoat> mib_mib: but none on <IP_ADDRESS>:80 or :::80 ?
[01:00] <scott_ino> physic, can you be more descriptive
[01:01] <foey> Any decent guides for setting up Samba shares via the terminal?
[01:01] <eminor> btw.. pidgin will be replaced with empathy in next ubuntu release, right?
[01:01] <musikgoat> mib_mib: I'd check your httpd.conf file and make sure its setup correctly
[01:01] <physic> i dont want pidgin i have it
[01:01] <Docteh> foey: the config file has a good example i thougt
[01:01] <scott_ino> eminor, gross i know
[01:01] <physic> i  want yahoo messenger client
[01:01] <musikgoat> eminor: no
[01:01] <musikgoat> eminor: its not ready yet, they put back in pidgin as the default
[01:01] <{Onyx}> that's ok, next install I'm thinking about going with kubuntu because it's all industrial with K's instead of C's
[01:01] <eminor> ah, ok
[01:02] <mib_mib> musikgoat: okay, i actually have a few conf files - apache is listening on <IP_ADDRESS>:80, and nginx is serving static content (and passing other stuff through <IP_ADDRESS>:80) - and nginx is listening on port 80  with my router ip address....
[01:02] <{Onyx}> Kommander always makes me think of Kompressor
[01:02] <O___o> how to install office 2007 in wine?
[01:02] <scott_ino> physic, im sorry, but that's not going to happen. you aren't going to be able to use yahoo messenger client, however pidgin and other messaging clients will work with your yahoo ID
[01:02] <losher> mib_mib: for testing purposes, until you get the client->server case working, I would flush all iptables: /sbin/iptables -F; /sbin/iptables -X; /sbin/iptables -Z
[01:02] <foey> Docteh : Yeh, ill have to go and read through that. I've managed to share a folder via webmin but no one has write permissions for it. Just wondering if that was the best way to go about it or just use the Samba config file.
[01:02] <mib_mib> losher: okay
[01:02] <O___o> do i just install wine then run X12-30307.exe?
[01:02] <musikgoat> mib_mib: i think you have a port conflict then
[01:03] <musikgoat> you shouldn't have two services on the same port
[01:03] <physic> scott_ino,pidgin couldn't open with me
[01:03] <scott_ino> physic, what do you mean "open"
[01:03] <musikgoat> mib_mib: choose one on 80 and move the other to 8080 or 8000 or something
[01:03] <physic> i mean did not open yahoo id
[01:04] <losher> mib_mib: I agree with musikgoat. You can't have two programs listening on the same port....
[01:04] <mnaines> physic: You have to go to www.pidgin.im and update pidgin to get Yahoo to work properly
[01:04] <musikgoat> mnaines: they do not host ubuntu packages,  check the pidgin ppa
[01:04] <musikgoat> physic: ^^
[01:04] <GBGames> If a webcam is said to be "supported out of the box" on Ubuntu, what should happen after I plug it in? How do I use it?
[01:04] <scott_ino> mnaines, what did they change recently
[01:04] <physic> ok
[01:05] <musikgoat> !ppa | physic
[01:05] <scott_ino> GBGames, open up Ekiga to test
[01:05] <glens> I'm trying to set up an SB Audigy under Jaunty, but I never get any sound.  I've followed all of the walkthroughs I've found, and none seem to get me anywhere.  where should I start?
[01:05] <mnaines> musikgoat: What are you talking about?
[01:05] <{Onyx}> yahoo connects fine for me in pidgin
[01:05] <musikgoat> pidgin.im doesn't have ubuntu packages
[01:05] <Docteh> foey: you might be better off just using the config file directly unless webmin causes issues with that
[01:05] <[t0rc]> suggestions for best solution for iPods? (cover support, etc.)
[01:05] <GBGames> scott_ino: I went through it before, but now I see when I open it, there is a webcam icon. And there I am!
[01:05] <GBGames> B-)
[01:05] <GBGames> Thanks!
[01:06] <mnaines> musikgoat: It doesn't need them...Pidgin has a PPA key that is required to update pidgin so that Yahoo can run properly
[01:06] <colemanguy> webmin should work even if you manually config samba, so id use the manual config editing
[01:06] <colemanguy> to learn to do it manualy first
[01:06] <Docteh> foey: are you trying to share a home directory or a different dir?
[01:06] <foey> Docteh : Yeh ill have a play. Thanks.
[01:06] <jonat399> hi
[01:06] <scott_ino> GBGames, no problem you can also use Skype, VLC, Cheese and many others for webcam awesomeness
[01:06] <{Onyx}> i saw a good tutorial on configuring samba
[01:06] <{Onyx}> let me see if i can find it again
[01:06] <glens> I'm trying to set up an SB Audigy under Jaunty, but I never get any sound.  I've followed all of the walkthroughs I've found, and none seem to get me anywhere.  where should I start?
[01:07] <foey> Docteh : I've created a folder within home /home/shared
[01:07] <heater> Onyx: well bios didn't have anything wrong
[01:07] <GBGames> scott_ino: I got a webcam for my girlfriend as well. She'll be on Windows. Any suggestions for software we can use to talk to each other?
[01:07] <twobitsprite> Brasero sits normalizing tracks forever... does anyone else have this problem?
[01:07] <scott_ino> GBGames, yeah honestly I use VOIP a lot and the new Ekiga sound quality is amazing, much better than skype in my opinion (which i use as well)
[01:07] <colemanguy> skype will work
[01:07] <{Onyx}> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-home-fileserver
[01:07] <mnaines> musikgoat: www.pidgin.im just has a Pidgin-specific PPA key on the website.  Copy and paste it into the terminal, then go into the package manager and search for pidgin, select "upgrade" then install the upgrade
[01:07] <scott_ino> GBGames, use skype or Ekiga (which has a windows version as well)
[01:07] <O___o> what is the channel for wine?
[01:07] <{Onyx}> Hmmm, monitor setting?
[01:08] <GBGames> Thanks!
[01:08] <physic> scott_ino, is latest version
[01:08] <molson_> Anyone familiar with ecryptfs?  It keeps unmounting my home directory.
[01:08] <scott_ino> physic, ? what
[01:08] <heater> Onyx: nah, i have the monitor hooked up to both windows and ubuntu, windows doesn't sleep the monitor
[01:08] <IdleOne> O___o: #winehq
[01:08] <scott_ino> O___o, winehq
[01:08] <physic> my pidgin is up to date
[01:08] <eminor> glens, i have an audigy 2 ZS in my second pc and it's working out of the box with ubuntu
[01:08] <O___o> IdleOne, thx
[01:09] <{Onyx}> did you check screen saver settings?
[01:09] <musikgoat> mnaines: nice, they have made it clearer, last time i visited, the site didn't have any real instructions for ubuntu users
[01:09] <eminor> 2late ;/
[01:09] <GBGames> Now I just have to learn about using webcam stuff. It's my first ever.
[01:09] <losher> {Onyx}: you didn't ask, but the best book I *ever* read on learning how to design software (as opposed to just coding) is http://www.amazon.com/Software-Tools-Pascal-Brian-Kernighan/dp/0201103427/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1254354955&sr=1-10. Don't mind the fact that it's in Pascal. You can code the examples yourself in C or Java or anything else you want. It's the design that's important...
[01:09] <O___o> anyone here successfully install office 2007 in ubuntu thru wine?
[01:09] <scott_ino> physic, someone else in this chat suggested you need to use a even newer version than what's included in the ubuntu repositories, which means you will have to use the PPA
[01:10] <scott_ino> physic, although another person has said that it works with the latest version, i don't have a yahooID so i can't check for you
[01:10] <twobitsprite> does cdrecord decode mp3?
[01:10] <physic> i dont nkow whats ppa?
[01:10] <musikgoat> physic: http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[01:10] <musikgoat> physic: follow their instructions
[01:10] <{Onyx}> I don't think I've updated pidgin unless it went through an auto update and yahoo works fine on pidgin
[01:11] <physic> ok thanks
[01:11] <{Onyx}> I just added an account, selected protocol yahoo and put in my user+pass
[01:11] <musikgoat> physic: you might also get answers in the #pidgin channel
[01:11] <losher> twobitsprite: no. You need .wav files for cdrecord. You can convert .mp3 to .wav using lame. It might be easier to just use k3b...
[01:11] <physic> my internet not good
[01:12] <heater> {Onyx}: im an idiot.....i cannot believe i over looked that
[01:12] <mib_mib> rather - one is listening on <IP_ADDRESS>:80, and the second is listening on the external port <externalip>:80
[01:12] <{Onyx}> Na, we all overlook stuff
[01:12] <{Onyx}> That's the biggest problem I have with experienced computer users that call in for support. They KNOW it is a hardware problem because they checked everything and resist anything I tell them to try :)
[01:12] <heater> {Onyx}: i appreciate your help, thank you
[01:12] <twobitsprite> losher: I'd rather install something that doesn't require KDE libs... The default Gnome app doesn't work
[01:13] <rensomsne> I'm having a hard time installing ubuntu 9.04 from a flash drive onto a computer currently running windows xp. When I boot, I get the message "Gave up waiting for root device". Would anyone have any idea what to do?
[01:13] <musikgoat> mib_mib: if you have a service bound to that external port:80, then you cannot serve apache on that port and expect it to be reachable by anything other than the server itself
[01:13] <AutoMatriX> hi folks
[01:13] <heater> {Onyx}: hahaha lol
[01:13] <losher> mib_mib: that might explain why http://localhost works, but http://<IP_ADDRESS> doesn't. They were talking to different apps...
[01:13] <AutoMatriX> dos somebody kow the address of the aircrack-ng irc chan ?
[01:13] <[t0rc]> any suggestions for best solution for iPods? (cover support, etc.)
[01:14] <{Onyx}> My suggestion for iPods is to get a regular mp3 player
[01:14] <heater> hahaha lol
[01:14] <{Onyx}> I can't stand the damn things with having to sync through iTunes
[01:14] <twobitsprite> {Onyx}: hear, hear
[01:14] <{Onyx}> Regular mp3 player you just drag and drop the files onto the mp3 player.
[01:14] <scott_ino> [t0rc], banshee is probably best
[01:14] <musikgoat> AutoMatriX: umm, isn't it openexploit or something?
[01:14] <colemanguy> yup exaclty
[01:14] <colemanguy> itunes sucks
[01:15] <scott_ino> {Onyx}, hopefully the new banshee development going on now will fix that ;-)
[01:15] <twobitsprite> I'm a huge fan of my Sony Walkman mp3 player
[01:15] <musikgoat> AutoMatriX: #remote-exploit
[01:15] <AutoMatriX> musikgoat, might be, going to check that, did not want to download the whole server list
[01:15] <scott_ino> [t0rc], what kind of ipod
[01:15] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I can sync mine with Rythmbox
[01:15] <AutoMatriX> tx so much musikgoat
[01:15] <musikgoat> AutoMatriX: at least they might be able to help, its backtrack's channel
[01:15] <{Onyx}> I was talking about the whole syncing in the first place.
[01:15] <losher> twobitsprite: no problem. Just make a directory and use lame --decode to expand the mp3s into wavs.  I would have liked another GUI to try... but that works for now, thanks
[01:16] <scott_ino> {Onyx}, of course... the entire concept of "sync" is retarded in my opinion
[01:16] <scott_ino> there's just gotta be a better way
[01:16] <{Onyx}> Hey heater, speaking of overlooking things. First time I booted backtrack I couldn't get my net connection to work. I tried everything, except sudo ifconfig eth0 up.
[01:16] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: there is... it's called USB mass storage... drag and drop music files
[01:17] <rensomsne> anyone? I'm trying to initiate an open source-revolution in my NGO, and it's going to look really stupid if I can't even install ubuntu on a single laptop...
[01:17] <twobitsprite> NGO?
[01:17] <{Onyx}> non gov org
[01:17] <SgtOompa> which NGO?
[01:17] <twobitsprite> a company?
[01:17] <rensomsne> not a company
[01:17] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, what?
[01:17] <rensomsne> a norwegian one
[01:17] <rensomsne> I'm currently in Bolivia
[01:18] <SgtOompa> cool
[01:18] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, what did i ask im confused
[01:18] <losher> twobitsprite: er, there's brasero, and there must be others, depending on your OS version. The GUI burning progs are nearly all buggy for some reason...
[01:18] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: you said "there's got to be a better way [than syncing]"
[01:18] <chiiph> is there any repo for pyqt4.5.4?
[01:18] <{Onyx}> k3b is my fav
[01:18] <twobitsprite> losher: brasero is the one that isn't working for me
[01:19] <twobitsprite> it just sits forever at "normalizing tracks"
[01:19] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, oh lol yeah, but doesn't work on all ipods, itouch, iphone
[01:19] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: ohh, I wasn't talking about ipod/etc... I was talking about real mp3 players
[01:20] <marcellus> Norway is quietly invading Bolivia and will dig fjords all over the place..
[01:20] <{Onyx}> real mp3 players you just drag the file to the mp3 player
[01:20] <twobitsprite> marcellus: mischan?
[01:20] <rensomsne> marcellus: we certainly will
[01:20] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, i know i know i own a Zen, and just do the whol USB thing, however if you asked me how important iphone/itouch linux support was I'd say 10/10
[01:20] <scott_ino> i know of at least 5 people that literally wont switch because of that
[01:21] <marcellus> mischan?
[01:21] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Sadly, it wasn't my choice to get an iPod...Last company I worked for was a publishing company...I routinely was assigned chauffeur duties for the boss' daughter and she nagged me until I got one
[01:21] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: bah...
[01:21] <rensomsne> the question is whether or not ubuntu will help us do it
[01:21] <twobitsprite> marcellus: you said something completely off topic, I thought maybe you typed it in the wrong window
[01:21] <colemanguy> haha
[01:21] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, i mean honestly... it HAS to happen for widespread linux adoption I'd say it's equally as important nowadays as... .doc support in open office
[01:22] <losher> twobitsprite: er, try gnomebaker, xcdroast, I'm sure there are others. They're pretty much all dreadful. k3b is the best of a bad bunch...
[01:22] <{Onyx}> I'd say gaming support would be more imprtant
[01:22] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: I'm not really concerned with wide-spread linux adoption... I like it, and if other people don't... that's fine
[01:22] <{Onyx}> If we could get native support for games it would be the pwn.
[01:22] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, I own a linux company
[01:22] <dbbolton> how can i purge all grub2 configs and revert to grub-legacy?
[01:22] <scott_ino> lol so im a little more concerned
[01:22] <DeathFox> there was no program when i installed ubuntu like when i use to install linux to pick programs i want to install with it where is that program within ubuntu
[01:22] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: ohh... then maybe you should develop itunes support
[01:23] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, I don't code, I'
[01:23] <scott_ino> m the hardware guy
[01:23] <scott_ino> me like build things
[01:23] <{Onyx}> deathfox try add/remove programs from apps or synaptic from system
[01:23] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: well, your company then
[01:23] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I do like using iPods over other mp3 players, though, because of the USB thing...I can run USB to my car stereo from the iPod...If I had any other type of mp3 player, I'd have to get a permanently-mounted adapter that connects to the back of the stereo
[01:23] <DeathFox> k
[01:23] <DeathFox> tks
[01:23] <losher> scott_ino: Actually, I'd prefer linux not achieve wide-spread adoption. It will just attract viruses writers etc...
[01:23] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, not really what we do, we specialize in LTSP environments, and other business related open source services
[01:24] <twobitsprite> mnaines: get a better stereo... one that supports USB mass storage
[01:24] <musikgoat> DeathFox: you are looking for Synaptic?
[01:24] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: do your customers need itunes support?
[01:24] <DigitalKiwi> but then people won't look at me funny when they find out I use linux instead of windows or OS X!
[01:24] <{Onyx}> everyone thinks they need itunes support
[01:24] <musikgoat> DeathFox: nvm, i see someone responded
[01:24] <scott_ino> losher, true, things on the virus end would get much worse but nowhere near what windows has been in my opinion
[01:24] <mnaines> twobitsprite: I doubt I can find one for less than 200 USD
[01:24] <twobitsprite> mnaines: how much did your itunes-nazi stereo cost?
[01:24] <{Onyx}> People think they need a lot of crap that they don't.
[01:25] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, yes.. they do, it's pretty important, but it looks like some dev guys from banshee are already well ontop of it, again we don't have the time or resources to aid in software development
[01:25] <mnaines> twobitsprite: The head unit was a Sony system and cost 120 USD
[01:25] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, maybe when i get more money i can contribute ;-)
[01:25] <t-zOmbie> hey guys, having an issue mountin windows shares. I'm using: sudo mount -t vboxsf -o uid=$USER,gid=$USER Music /media/Share1
[01:25] <DigitalKiwi> scott_ino: who is we?
[01:26] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: ohh... well you said itunes support was vital to linux, and linux adoption was vital to your company... sounds to me like your company has a vested interest in linux itunes support... sounds like a good reason to contribute
[01:26] <scott_ino> DigitalKiwi, it's actually just two of us, used to be four, we're a small business based in arlington,VA
[01:26] <DigitalKiwi> ah
[01:26] <mnaines> twobitsprite: It is HD Radio and Satellite Radio ready, front-mount 1-wire USB, rear-mount auxiliary, with AM/FM/CD/USB/Aux functionality
[01:26] <scott_ino> DigitalKiwi, although we've done a few exciting projects recently, particularly with mass linux adoption in low income areas etc..
[01:27] <twobitsprite> mnaines: and you don't think you could have found a stereo with usb support for that much?
[01:27] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, oh absolutely, id even be willing to give my free time however I'm not really sure what I can offer as im not a coder ;-)
[01:27] <twobitsprite> mnaines: http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/car-audio/
[01:27] <mnaines> twobitsprite: None of the other brands had head units with that many features for less than 200 USD
[01:28] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, not in "desperate" need of itunes support/iphone support, but it would certainly help quite a bit, and it's a bigger issue than just itunes. It's about hardware development and implementation in general
[01:29] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, if a large percentage of your potential customers happen to have ipods, they're going to want to be able to use them on a machine they own easily ;-)
[01:29] <scott_ino> so yeah that's my story..
[01:29] <{Onyx}> hardware dev isn't really our issue though. The community is great about it when a company opens the drivers, and a lot of times even when they don't.
[01:29] <mnaines> twobitsprite: The problem with all of the ones on that site is none of them are compatible with HD Radio or Satellite Radio tuners
[01:29] <heyho> how to dpkg all packages i dnt know command line
[01:29] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: the reason I make a big deal about this, is so many people want to complain about the lack of this-or-that feature in GNU/Linux distros, but don't realize that most of it is charity-ware... i.e., if you want something, do it yourself
[01:29] <scott_ino> {Onyx}, that's why im not worried about it, because more and more hardware is being available to the public
[01:30] <musikgoat> heyho: what are you trying to accomplish?
[01:30] <{Onyx}> The problem is with companies that won't open their drivers and won't support linux
[01:30] <scott_ino> twobitsprite, absolultely I agree with you, I see myself as part of the "linux solution" not just a user
[01:30] <twobitsprite> scott_ino: excellent... that's great to hear
[01:31] <{Onyx}> I prefer community drivers anyway. I'll never buy another x-fi card after all the issues I've had with this one.
[01:31] <mnaines> scott_ino: I am also interested in getting more support for Linux
[01:31] <{Onyx}> And that's with creative's provided drivers
[01:31] <mnaines> {Onyx}: www.razerzone.com is where I got my soundcard...Razer Barracuda is the one I got
[01:31] <physic> i downloade pidgin 2.6.2 in zip
[01:32] <scott_ino> mnaines, most of us are :-) what's good about all of this is that more and more users are starting to get involved in projects, etc.
[01:32] <physic> how i can install it?
[01:32] <{Onyx}> You happy with the sound quality and microphone/headset support?
[01:32] <musikgoat> physic: you didn't follow instructions
[01:32] <heyho> musikgoat: i need to run dpkg for all packages do you know command
[01:32] <heyho> i forgot it
[01:32] <scott_ino> {Onyx}, i have a sales person using one right now as we speak, over 500 calls and counting on a 14 dollar headset
[01:32] <physic> musikgoat in page told me download pidgin 2.6.2
[01:32] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Stereo microphone, <0.01% THD at 1kHz, true 5.1 channel surround sound, and Razer's proprietary High Definition Digital Audio Interface
[01:33] <physic> musikgoat so i downloADED
[01:33] <scott_ino> {Onyx}, i realize that might not have been directed at me sorry ;-) im getting confused
[01:33] <{Onyx}> sweet, thanks
[01:33] <mnaines> {Onyx}: The HD-DAI uses the same type of connection as DVI-I, but it outputs audio instead of video
[01:34] <musikgoat> physic: hmm, it looks like 2.6.1 is the latest build in the PPA, did someone say that yahoo was fixed in 2.6.2 only?
[01:34] <{Onyx}> I've got an x-fi xtreme music and the mic doesn't work for crap. If I turn the volume down so it isn't blaring out of the speaker/headset then it doesn't work and wine doesn't like it for a mic period
[01:35] <physic> musikgoat no
[01:35] <{Onyx}> Haven't tried with using OSS in wine, which supports my on board sound chip's mic a lot better.
[01:35] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I've had people comment on the quality...They said its just like I'm sitting right next to them and talking to them
[01:35] <musikgoat> physic: have you read this? http://theflamingbanker.blogspot.com/2009/06/some-clarification-on-yahoo-issues.html
[01:36] <maccam94> hi
[01:36] <physic> i will go to pidgin channel
[01:36] <maccam94> wrong window
[01:36] <physic> musikgoat no
[01:36] <{Onyx}> O, you guys are talking headsets.
[01:36] <{Onyx}> I'm talking about sound cards :)
[01:37] <bluebaron_> can someone point me to a site for creating a ubuntu usb bootable flash install from windows?
[01:37] <mnaines> {Onyx}: The Razer Barracuda is great...Made by gamers for gamers...Utilizes 3 dimensional positional audio for a true surround sound experience, the sound card itself has an onboard 500MHz processor with 32MB of RAM for excellent audio processing capabilities...That allows for the best possible sound quality, the use of a stereo microphone, and the lowest total harmonic distortion in the industry
[01:37] <musikgoat> !unetbootin | bluebaron
[01:38] <{Onyx}> NM, looks like they have a headset by the same name.
[01:38] <{Onyx}> Looking at a review of the card now.
[01:38] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Yeah...That's designed to be used with the sound card...
[01:39] <dethaddr> im having an install issue with jaunty, can anyone help?
[01:39] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Let me just add in my own review - The in-game sound from this card will easily trick your mind into thinking you're really there
[01:39] <heater> Here is a question, anyone get blu-ray playback in linux yet?
[01:39] <bluebaron_> musikgoat, ty
[01:39] <losher> mib_mib: so did you resolve your server issue?
[01:39] <DeathFox> can gnome in ubuntu have a clear terminal
[01:39] <mnaines> {Onyx}: The sound quality is so good, its as close to real as you'll ever get
[01:40] <scott_ino> heater, yes you can do it for certain blu-ray disks, however requires quite a bit of effort from what i understand
[01:40] <{Onyx}> How much do they run?
[01:40] <mnaines> {Onyx}: The prices are on the site...I think the headset runs 120USD
[01:40] <{Onyx}> If the video card is all I need to replace on the dead XPS system in my guest room then I may be able to swing it.
[01:40] <heater> scott_ino: hmmm....so on top of that it would prob be much harder to get it to run through XBMC also then?
[01:40] <scott_ino> heater let me find you the page
[01:40] <dethaddr> i made a jaunty usb boot disk, and im using it as im typing in this IRC chat right now, but it doenst have the installl button on the desktop. is there like a sudo i need to run in the term?
[01:41] <heyho> hater: i can burn blueay and play high definition videos i didnt try playing bluray
[01:41] <{Onyx}> nice looking card as well.
[01:41] <heater> scott_ino: alright thanks
[01:41] <mnaines> {Onyx}: The great news is the most recent ALSA drivers in Linux will run the Barracuda just fine
[01:41] <heater> heyho: you can play hd-dvd? or hd rips?
[01:41] <DeathFox> can you have a transparent terminal in gnome
[01:42] <heyho> hater: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[01:42] <Maritim> DeathFox: yes.
[01:42] <DeathFox> how?
[01:42] <{Onyx}> $120 is a bit steep but I'm sure I'd be using the same card for years.
[01:42] <Maritim> DeathFox: gnome-terminal supports transparency.
[01:42] <kansan> how bad is this?  my comp just randomly hung (ubuntu hardy); according to /var/log/messages i see: Sep 29 15:06:22 desktop-igloo kernel: [2234774.575997] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0
[01:42] <t-zOmbie> hey guys, having an issue mountin windows shares. I'm using: sudo mount -t vboxsf -o uid=$USER,gid=$USER Music /media/Share1
[01:42] <DeathFox> how do i do it i got my terminal open
[01:42] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I've had this card for a little over a year...No problems at all
[01:42] <Maritim> DeathFox: Edit -> Profile settings -> Background
[01:42] <heater> heyho: yea thanks
[01:43] <heyho> hater: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32o6xmWco6I
[01:43] <t-zOmbie> DeathFox ALT + F2 type gnome-terminal
[01:43] <t-zOmbie> then from there go to the profile settings and change the bg
[01:43] <{Onyx}> I don't game at all so the card should be good enough for great music/movies until it dies.
[01:43] <{Onyx}> Don't think I've ever had a sound card die on me either.
[01:43] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Its great for movies and music, especially when coupled with the Barracuda headset
[01:43] <_AaLinux> I'm trying to read line from file . Where is the error ? http://pastebin.com/m4af665df
[01:43] <Maritim> {Onyx}: the sound card has never been worth thinking about for gaming :P
[01:44] <Maritim> whatever's on your mobo gets the job done
[01:44] <losher> kansan: it's a read error on your cdrom. Could be just a bad CD/DVD disk, or it could be the drive is starting to go bad. The only way to know for sure is try another disk...
[01:44] <mnaines> Maritim: The onboard sound cards have poor sound quality compared to third-party sound cards
[01:44] <kansan> losher, how do you know its not a hardd rive read error
[01:45] <losher> _AaLinux: line 6 remove the $ sign
[01:45] <dethaddr> i made a jaunty usb boot disk, and im using it as im typing in this IRC chat right now, but it doenst have the installl button on the desktop. is there like a sudo i need to run in the term?
[01:45] <lulela> hi
[01:45] <losher> kansan: because it says dev sr0, which is the cdrom...
[01:45] <musikgoat> dethaddr: you could try running ubiquity
[01:45] <RPG_Master> awhile back i did something which enabled thumbnails for open document files. Would anyone here know how to turn this off?
[01:45] <Bluey> dethaddr install button for what?
[01:46] <mnaines> {Onyx}: The beauty of the Barracuda headset is its a true 5.1 channel headset...Three speakers and a subwoofer in each earcup
[01:46] <dethaddr> bluey for ubuntu
[01:46]  * {Onyx} drools
[01:46] <musikgoat> dethaddr: although i don't know if ubiquity needs to run as root or what
[01:46] <kansan> losher, how should i figure out why it froze then
[01:46] <_AaLinux> losher: Yes, it would be echo $line
[01:46] <Bluey> dethaddr -- it sounds like you want to install ubuntu on top of ubuntu
[01:46] <dethaddr> no, there is no OS on the pc
[01:46] <mnaines> {Onyx}: The other beauty of it is the stereo microphone and the sound card's 3D Positional Audio processing
[01:47] <losher> _AaLinux: that'll do it...
[01:47] <{Onyx}> deathaddr is booting from a usb and wanting to install from it
[01:47] <dethaddr> i want to install it
[01:47] <Keiya> Hello! Can anyone help me out? Evolution crashes when I authenticate with an exchange server using the MAPI plugin. (2.26.1-0ubuntu2 on Ubuntu 9.04 (amd64))
[01:47] <Bluey> dethaddr private message okay?
[01:47] <DeathFox> does the new ubuntu have my drivers for my geforce 8800 card already or should i install them
[01:47] <DeathFox> i mean i see a display
[01:47] <dethaddr> surre
[01:47] <musikgoat> !ubiquity | dethaddr
[01:47] <Keiya> (The exchange server is running 2007, so the OWA-based plugin doesn't work)
[01:47] <musikgoat> !info ubiquity | dethaddr
[01:47] <mnaines> DeathFox: I have the 8800GTS, and you have to go to System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[01:47] <losher> kansan: read errors may freeze your machine, it's a bug but not an important one, and secondary to the cdrom issue....
[01:47] <sidney> easy question for ya
[01:48] <losher> scott_ino: what $14 headset were you talking about above? I didn't see a model number...
[01:49]  * cyphase finally feels l33t. he just encountered his first problem where removing pulseaudio helped
[01:50] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I am still a newbie to Linux, but I eventually want to help contribute to the Linux community
[01:50] <sidney> i'm using Ubuntu in the default gnome when i updated the first 6 were kde updates. is there really any reason to install these?
[01:50] <cyphase> sidney: you probably installed a kde app
[01:50] <Keiya> Yes. A lot of useful apps use the KDE libraries, and apps 'native' to either run just fine on both.
[01:51] <mnaines> Keiya: Is it true Gnome and KDE apps are cross-compatible with either desktop?
[01:52] <MlRegister> hi
[01:52] <Keiya> mnaines: Yep!
[01:52] <{Onyx}> mnaines pretty much.
[01:52] <MlRegister> can someone help me with something?
[01:52] <{Onyx}> you'll have to install qt and stuff but any kde app you install will install that.
[01:52] <sidney> cyphase: does the add remove install kde apps under gnome?
[01:52] <mnaines> {Onyx}: What are some ways a newbie like myself can contribute to the Linux community?
[01:52] <Keiya> There's the occasionall little glitch, but not any worse than with a KDE app on KDE or a Gnome app on Gnome on a bad day :P
[01:53] <losher> !burn | twobitsprite just found this list
[01:53] <{Onyx}> Hell if I know, I'm a newbie myself compared to most people :)
[01:53] <MlRegister> can someone maybe answer a quick question for me?
[01:53] <{Onyx}> I'm just really good at searching for info I need.
[01:53] <DigitalKiwi> MlRegister: we can't read your mind
[01:53] <MlRegister> o sorry
[01:53] <distrohopper> mnaines: learn and help people who come in here.. stay here and learn from other people's questions
[01:53] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Yeah...I barely even know command line...Before I started using Linux, I was a Windows fanboy
[01:53] <MlRegister> ok so i just put Ubuntu 9.04 on a 320gb hdd and it says i only have 12 gigs free?
[01:54] <{Onyx}> Command line's no problem for me, got familiar with it downloading porn from IRC when I was a kid :)
[01:54] <distrohopper> lol {Onyx}
[01:54] <sidney> If ubuntu would run my tv card i would never boot windows purposely
[01:54] <mnaines> I doubt I'd ever be able to wean myself off the GUI because of all the years I've been a Windows sheep
[01:54] <{Onyx}> Then from there I went through my bad computer nerd phase and got familiar with the command line from other people's systems.
[01:54] <fccf> m
[01:54] <Keiya> Did you use the entire hard drive, or did you use a partition on it, MlRegister?
[01:54] <distrohopper> mnaines: once you learn the power of the command line.. we may never get you away from it ;)
[01:54] <losher> MlRegister: please open a terminal and run 'sudo fdisk -l' and paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:54] <{Onyx}> I see no reason to ween yourself off a gui
[01:54] <MlRegister> i used the entire drive
[01:54] <Marco> hi
[01:54] <MlRegister> ok
[01:54] <{Onyx}> For some things GUI is great and for some things command line is better.
[01:55] <DigitalKiwi> mnaines: I used windows for like 15 years and now CLI is what i prefer, you can do it too!
[01:55] <Keiya> mnaines: The lovely bit is you don't have to - I use both, and they play together nicely :J
[01:55] <mnaines> distrohopper: Yeah...The problem is going to be teaching me CLI...I'm too dependent on the GUI right now
[01:55] <MlRegister> incoming.... Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>76 bytes
[01:55] <MlRegister> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
[01:55] <MlRegister> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[01:55] <MlRegister> Disk identifier: 0x2a4db61c
[01:55] <MlRegister>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:55] <FloodBot1> MlRegister: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:55] <MlRegister> /dev/sda1               1       38913   312566780    7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:55] <losher> {Onyx}: the only reason to learn CLI is that the gui stuff tends to be much buggier. I'm not sure what that is...
[01:55] <distrohopper> I've been using linux full time for about a year now, and I am still learning
[01:55] <mib_mib> losher: not yet, still working on it
[01:55] <{Onyx}> the most important command lines are command --help and man command
[01:55] <mnaines> distrohopper: I've only been using Ubuntu since June
[01:55] <DigitalKiwi> !paste | MlRegister
[01:55] <losher> {Onyx}: what -> why
[01:56] <{Onyx}> command --help explains the commands and man gives even more info
[01:56] <sidney> is the gui what makes windows more open to attack?
[01:56] <Keiya> sidney: Nah.
[01:56] <distrohopper> or 'man <command>' is another good learnign resource
[01:56] <{Onyx}> another important command is man why did you leave your wife? always good for a laugh.
[01:57] <mnaines> sidney: No...It is because of Windows' user friendliness and the popularity
[01:57] <losher> distrohopper: I've been using unix/linux since 1974 and I'm still learning...
[01:57] <DigitalKiwi> alias woman='man'
[01:57] <distrohopper> losher: and I thought I was old ;)
[01:57] <{Onyx}> Windows is only user friendly until it breaks, which is often.
[01:57] <mnaines> Pretty much everything on Windows is automated these days...That's where the security holes come from
[01:57] <Keiya> Well, to a degree, bu just because it's code. Really, what makes Windows vulnerable is that it was designed as a single-user system to be used by people who knew 'everything'.
[01:57] <MlRegister> Losher: http://paste.ubuntu.com/282583/
[01:57] <Sonorous> Anyone around that can help with a sound issue on 9.04 with an asus p5k deluxe mobo?
[01:57] <losher> distrohopper: nah, I'm ancient...
[01:57] <Keiya> And then it became popular.
[01:58] <mnaines> Keiya: Windows was designed for the computer illiterate...That's the main reason its such a big security risk
[01:58] <sidney> mnaines: ok understand
[01:58] <{Onyx}> First time I used linux was when like 1985
[01:58] <MlRegister> im totally new to linux :P
[01:58] <scott_ino> {Onyx}, i suddenly feel very young ;-)
[01:58] <Keiya> So you have an architecture that's designed for power over security, and it's ubiqtuous or however it's spelled.
[01:58]  * mnaines was only 2 years old in 1985
[01:58]  * Keiya was -5 years old in 1985
[01:59] <DigitalKiwi> mnaines: isn't ubuntu targeted at computer illiterate? :)
[01:59] <losher> MlRegister: on disk /dev/sda, I see an windows partition about 312GB in size. That's where all the space is. I don't see any linux partitions. Did you do a wubi install by any chance?
[01:59] <{Onyx}> Oops, meant 1995
[01:59] <{Onyx}> I was only 4 :)
[01:59] <{Onyx}> in 1985
[01:59] <sidney> Keiya: now i feel very old
[01:59] <chalcedony> DigitalKiwi, be polite
[01:59] <DigitalKiwi> i thought that was its big gimmick, linux for human beings, etc
[01:59] <Keiya> DigitalKiwi: Not for the illiterate, no...
[01:59] <mnaines> DigitalKiwi: Ubuntu is easy to use, but its not that easy...There are still some things on Ubuntu that require command line and knowledge of Linux
[01:59] <Keiya> It's targeted at people who can read and write at a sixth-grade level :P\
[01:59] <Sonorous> LIKE!
[01:59] <Sonorous> Anyone around that can help with a sound issue on 9.04 with an asus p5k deluxe mobo?
[01:59] <{Onyx}> linux is user friendly. just a little more picky about who it makes friends with.
[01:59] <scott_ino> DigitalKiwi, i think they meant like.. the open source philosophy, not supid people
[02:00] <scott_ino> ;-)
[02:00] <losher> scott_ino: what $14 headset were you talking about earlier? I didn't see a model number...
[02:00] <scott_ino> ummm losher let me check
[02:00] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Linux doesn't like making friends, though...Windows boxes will be friends with anyone and anything...Linux boxes are like shy people
[02:01] <Sonorous> my rule of thumb is, if you are not an idiot, windows can be ok.
[02:01] <rensomsne> shy people don't like making friends?
[02:01] <{Onyx}> I have to say one thing about linux. If you're willing to look for help it is a lot easier to find.
[02:01] <rensomsne> shy people just need a little bit of encouragement
[02:01] <sternohead> can anyone help with loading ubuntu on a pc
[02:01] <mnaines> {Onyx}: My rule of thumb is "Any geek worth his salt would use Linux over Windows any day"
[02:01] <sidney> will ubuntu alow a user account without a password?
[02:02] <{Onyx}> Any time I have a problem with Windows that I can't figure out I have to dig through 18 pages of me too!'s
[02:02] <Keiya> sternohead: Sure! Do you have a CD ready, or do you need to burn it? yet.
[02:02] <{Onyx}> sidney: no
[02:02] <sidney> allow
[02:02] <Beardbar_> im dealing with a malware issue on my website, is there a way to search all files for an iframe after using sed to remove it to see if there are any iframe tags left in any of the files recursivly?
[02:02] <mnaines> sidney: None of the Linux distros will do that
[02:02] <sternohead> i have a cd
[02:02] <Keiya> sidney: All accounts /must/ have a password... but Ubuntu /does/ allow autologin
[02:02] <_AaLinux> losher: I want to stop after printing 0, why is it printing negative numbers?http://pastebin.com/m7f12dc01
[02:02] <distrohopper> sidney: you can set up ubuntu to automatically log you in, but you need a password for things like sudo
[02:02] <losher> sidney: it can be done, but it's not recommended...
[02:02] <chalcedony> Beardbar_, grep
[02:02] <Sonorous> STOP!
[02:02] <Sonorous> hammer time.
[02:02] <DigitalKiwi> chalcedony: i was being polite, if i meant to be rude instead of computer illiterate I would have said stupid people, the nice thing about windows is that anyone can figure out how to use it in a very short amount of time for what most people use stuff for...linux takes a bit longer
[02:02] <Sonorous> so about this audio issue
[02:03] <Sonorous> that i need some help with
[02:03] <mnaines> Keiya: But even with autologin, its not like Windows because you still don't get root privileges by default
[02:03] <Keiya> mnaines: You don't on Vista or 7 either.
[02:03] <chalcedony> DigitalKiwi, it didn't seem very tactful
[02:03] <Sonorous> you can even send me a pm so you can still talk about windows in a linux chan, i won't mind
[02:03] <Keiya> Well, you do, you just have to click through annoying dialogs
[02:03] <_AaLinux>  I want to stop after printing 0, why is it printing negative numbers?http://pastebin.com/m7f12dc01
[02:04] <mnaines> Keiya: Actually, the only thing that Windows Vista and Windows 7 do is pop up endless dialogs saying "Are you sure you want to do this?"  "Are you sure you're sure?"
[02:04] <distrohopper> i'll trust a password over just clickin OK any day
[02:04] <{Onyx}> Yeah, but linux has things set up better so even if you do get a "virus" all it can do is trash your home folder.
[02:04] <{Onyx}> Windows any user can infect the whole system unless it is a guest account.
[02:04] <Keiya> (Yes! It only took until 2007 for Microsoft to implement a half-assed sudo!)
[02:04] <Sonorous> mnaines, you have not used windows 7 obviously
[02:04] <Marco> hola
[02:04] <mnaines> {Onyx}: And I like Linux because even if you get a virus, you can just rewrite the darn thing and send it right back to the attacker
[02:04] <Rubinioo> lol my harddisk sounds like a diesel engine :D
[02:04] <losher> _AaLinux: I added sleep 1 to the loop and executed it with sh -x. The test is incorrect. If you read the man page, you
[02:04] <Sonorous> there is this neeto option that you can turn off, called the UAC.
[02:05] <{Onyx}> rubinioo time for a new hdd :)
[02:05] <musikgoat> Sonorous: I have, and i haven't been prompted for a password for anything
[02:05] <Rubinioo> yeah :D
[02:05]  * Sonorous fails to see your point
[02:05] <{Onyx}> Yeah, but you turn off UAC and you'll be running around in SU
[02:05] <DigitalKiwi> mnaines: i wrote a program to paste text to pastebin sites, it has a --vista option
[02:05] <DigitalKiwi>     -V, --vista                     Asks a random number of times for confirmation in amusing ways
[02:05] <{Onyx}> Besides, most idiots don't pay attention to what is asking for permission to run and just click ok.
[02:05] <DigitalKiwi> it is its best feature
[02:05] <omeddragon> Linksys / Cisco Compact Wireless-G USB Adapter (WUSB54GC) does this work on ubuntu
[02:05] <musikgoat> Sonorous: eh, its offtopic anyways...
[02:06] <Sonorous> k
[02:06] <sternohead> Keiya i have the cd and it freezes up when i get to putting in where i live at  i tried in safe graphics mode and it didn't help
[02:06] <MlRegister> losher: hey ive got three harddrives in my computer, a 320gb with vista, a clean 80gb, and a new 320 with ubuntu on it "supposedly"
[02:06] <slayton> does anybody know how I would go about diagnosing slow copy speeds? I have two sata drives and when I try to copy big files >500mb from one drive to another I get really slow copy speeds like 5mb/sec
[02:06] <musikgoat> !ubuntuhcl | omeddragon
[02:06] <mnaines> DigitalKiwi: Yeah...There are a lot of benefits to Linux over Windows...I like the higher integrated security and the fact I don't need an antivirus
[02:06] <Sonorous> so back to my tricky asus p5k with no sound on ubuntu
[02:06] <Sonorous> anyone?
[02:06] <musikgoat> omeddragon: check out http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/
[02:06] <Sonorous> not even a nibble?
[02:07] <DigitalKiwi> mnaines: http://pasteit.ghost1227.com/index.php/view/71602464
[02:07] <DigitalKiwi> giggle
[02:07] <Keiya> sternohead: Odd...
[02:07] <cegopaiva> hi everybody
[02:07] <Sonorous> OHAI
[02:07] <cegopaiva> good night
[02:07] <Keiya> sternohead: It's always just worked for me. You are booting from the CD, right? :J
[02:07] <Sonorous> wait huh>
[02:08] <sternohead> yes
[02:08] <cegopaiva> my english is poor... i'm sorry
[02:08] <mnaines> DigitalKiwi: What is that for?
[02:08] <mnaines> DigitalKiwi: Funny, yes, but what was its intended purpose?
[02:08] <Sonorous> i see what you meant now cegopaiva
[02:08] <DigitalKiwi> curlpaste, pastebin uploader I wrote that uses lua and curl
[02:08] <huston> uhm. anyone here know if ubuntu is capable of utilizing all 4 Gigs of my ram and my 64 bit proccessor?
[02:08] <igsen> I've been trying to view video streaming but firefox keeps asking for installation of microsoft silverlight---uninstallable on jaunty. Any alternatives for this?
[02:09] <slayton> huston, if you install the 64 bit version of ubuntu then yes
[02:09] <cegopaiva> i wold like learn many things here
[02:09] <DigitalKiwi> it's actually a really cool little program =D
[02:09] <MlRegister> losher, u said there wasnt a linux partition?
[02:09] <mnaines> huston: I use 64-bit Ubuntu and I have a 64-bit Intel Core2 Quad with 4GB of RAM...Ubuntu doesn't even put a dent in my machine
[02:09] <Orfeous> ive got some problems with my ubuntu karmic computer.. i upgraded all packages yesterday and now my computer boots into some kind of single user mode and logs in as root as default.. what can i do about it? it also seems that many services are not started.
[02:09] <DeathFox> how do i change the login screen background image
[02:09] <{Onyx}> huston, if you're using 64bit ubuntu then yes.
[02:09] <slayton> Orfeous, this isn't the place for Karmic support
[02:09] <slayton> Orfeous, try ubuntu+1
[02:09] <mnaines> huston: I can run Ubuntu 64-bit full steam and never once notice a change in performance
[02:09] <Orfeous> ok, sorry :)
[02:10] <Shawn-> What's that one state that's like in Canada
[02:10] <DigitalKiwi> does ubuntu have a PAE kernel available?
[02:10] <losher> MlRegister: that's how it looks. Linux partitions would say Linux in the output. How did you install linux?
[02:10] <sternohead> thanks keiya
[02:10] <huston> i'm running windopwsd right now i know how to install ubuntu to dual boot. do i need a specific ionstall disc though?
[02:10] <DeathFox> is there a way to change the image on the login screen
[02:10] <Danbo19> I'm having problems with sound. I just installed Jaunty on my desktop and until today, sound worked fine. But yesterday I unplugged my speakers to plug into a laptop, and now today my desktop has no sound.
[02:11] <MlRegister> Losher: i was booted into vista when i did it, i installed it to a newly formatted 320gb SATA hdd that i just installed in my pc today.
[02:11] <losher> _AaLinux: was that enough for you to figure it out?
[02:11] <mnaines> {Onyx}: What are some good apps for learning how to write code for the Linux kernel?
[02:11] <_AaLinux> losher: I'm testing , editing
[02:11] <Keiya> My the way, at the earlier malware discussion, reminds me of a joke from the GNU humor archive: http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/evilmalware.html
[02:12] <Keiya> (I'm sure most of you have seen it, but it's good for a laugh anyway.)
[02:12] <DigitalKiwi> mnaines: http://pasteit.ghost1227.com/index.php/view/37382892
[02:12] <DeathFox> how do i change the login image on gnome
[02:12] <sidney> DeathFox:  system -login i think
[02:12] <MlRegister> losher did u see that last response from me?
[02:12] <losher> MlRegister: normally, one boots the ubuntu livecd and installs from it. I think you did a *wubi* install, which means you installed ubuntu as a windows application. I don't know much about wubi, sorry...
[02:13] <MlRegister> #losher ok ill reinstall no biggie, havent really done anything except update it so far
[02:14] <mnaines> DigitalKiwi: I got a question...Are having the Linux kernel firewall in restrictive mode, my computers on a different subnet, and the router on that subnet locked down tight good for security?
[02:14] <losher> MlRegister: ok, be careful to make sure you install to the correct disk, or you'll end up overwriting your windows install....
[02:14] <{Onyx}> Speaking of Windows insecurity, wasn't the Windows box the last one to go down during the last defcon?
[02:14] <{Onyx}> The Mac being first.
[02:14] <DigitalKiwi> losher: he's gone
[02:14] <mnaines> {Onyx}: That was Linux...The last Defcon, the Mac box went down in 10 minutes, the Windows Vista Service Pack 1 box took 2 days, but they didn't want to write the exploit code for Linux
[02:14] <losher> DigitalKiwi: scary....
[02:15] <_AaLinux> losher:  "$var" -gt 0  , it works , but why doesn't it work? "$var" > 0  , isn't that same?
[02:15] <{Onyx}> I should go to the next defcon.
[02:16] <Danbo19> can anybody help with a sound problem?
[02:16] <mnaines> {Onyx}: I want to learn hacking, too...And by Hacking I mean learning what the exploits are and how to fix them
[02:17] <{Onyx}> I'm more interested in not being the smartest person in the room.
[02:17] <{Onyx}> Would be a nice change!
[02:17] <Biovore> learn C/C++ and the gnu debugger..
[02:17] <DigitalKiwi> and bash
[02:17] <dethaddr> i made a jaunty usb boot disk, and im using it as im typing in this IRC chat right now, but it doenst have the installl button on the desktop. is there like a sudo i need to run in the term?
[02:17] <laclasse> learn ASM.
[02:17] <Rubinioo> yeah and I want beer
[02:17] <DigitalKiwi> dethaddr: we can't read your mind
[02:17] <DigitalKiwi> err
[02:18] <DigitalKiwi> disregard that
[02:18] <DigitalKiwi> Danbo19: ^
[02:18] <losher> _AaLinux: because it's shorthand for calling the "test" command. See 'man test'. The syntax is old and clunky. See 'man bash' under compound commands and arithmetic expressions for better syntax...
[02:18] <dethaddr> im not asking you to read my mind
[02:18] <Danbo19> sorry, posted above: (08:10:44 PM) Danbo19: I'm having problems with sound. I just installed Jaunty on my desktop and until today, sound worked fine. But yesterday I unplugged my speakers to plug into a laptop, and now today my desktop has no sound.
[02:18] <teng> please let me know better place to chat!
[02:18] <UbuntuPoop> how do I install Adobe Flash Player for Ubuntu 9.04?
[02:19] <{Onyx}> Ubuntupoop, manually install it from adobe's web site.
[02:19] <n8bounds> dethaddr, the command is ubiquity, which you may be able to sudo. it should also be in the system menu.
[02:19] <UbuntuPoop> i dont know howplayer/
[02:19] <{Onyx}> Autoinstall from firefox doesn't seem to work.
[02:19] <laclasse> UbuntuPoop, Applications-> add/remove -> search 'Flash' -> first result -> install
[02:19] <n8bounds> dethaddr, if there are no icons on the desktop, maybe nautilus crashed, try running that too
[02:19] <Biovore> !flash
[02:19] <losher> teng: for general chat, #ubuntu-offtopic. For technical chat, depends what you want to chat about
[02:20] <seidos> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-installer
[02:20] <dethaddr> just hit f2 an hit nautilis?
[02:20] <mnaines> UbuntuPoop: Go to Synaptic, search for Flash, then scroll down until you find the Adobe Flash Player Plugin
[02:20] <n8bounds> dethaddr, yeah, that might help. or sudo ubiquity
[02:20] <Rubinioo> I dont like flash at all... screws up my system
[02:20] <d0wn> Hi, I tried installing a package, but I get this: http://pastebin.com/d3a9e355d and now any time I try to install another package, I get told to do "apt-get -f install", but I only get more errors
[02:20] <{Onyx}> Speaking of flash, anyone figured out how to get rid of that annoying sound everytime a flash app loads.
[02:20] <seidos> nope, that didn't work
[02:21] <seidos> d'oh! thought that was right
[02:21] <kb9tui> good evening all
[02:21] <dethaddr> nothing happend with f2/nautilus
[02:21] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Doesn't make a sound for me when a flash app loads
[02:21] <{Onyx}> Maybe I need to update flash.
[02:21] <ThatGuyOverThere> Hello. Is there any way for me to remove network devices?
[02:21] <mnaines> {Onyx}: Or use the Adobe flash player instead of the other one
[02:21] <n8bounds> dethaddr, can u open an xterm or gnome-terminal ?
[02:21] <{Onyx}> That's what I'm using.
[02:21] <laclasse> d0wn, easy
[02:21] <dethaddr> got it
[02:22] <BumpTop_Prototyp> a
[02:22] <losher> ThatGuyOverThere: you can configure them to be 'down' using ifconfig. But why do you need to?
[02:22] <laclasse> d0wn, sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/gstreamer0.10-plugins-farsight_0.12.10-2_i386.deb
[02:22] <guest17747> trying to apt-get usb-creator and I get the error "Couldn't find package usb-creator"... any thoughts? I'm on Ubuntu 8.04.
[02:22] <d0wn> laclasse: thanks :] i'll try
[02:22] <BumpTop_Prototyp> a
[02:22] <n8bounds> dethadder, are you familiar with tab completion?
[02:22] <ThatGuyOverThere> Well, I'm using a PS3. Bottom line, if you want to connect to wifi, you have to have the ethernet device disabled.
[02:22] <n8bounds> guest17747, can u do a  sudo apt-get update and try it again?
[02:23] <Danbo19> I'm having problems with sound. I just installed Jaunty on my desktop and until today, sound worked fine. But yesterday I unplugged my speakers to plug into a laptop, and now today my desktop has no sound. The sound guide on the forums seems to only have information for people who haven't gotten sound to work at all.
[02:23] <guest17747> sorry, thats what i meant
[02:23] <mnaines> ThatGuyOverThere: I use wi-fi just fine with the ethernet ports active
[02:23] <ThatGuyOverThere> Well, mine doesn't work.
[02:23] <ThatGuyOverThere> :(
[02:23] <guest17747> I did "sudo apt-get usb-creator"
[02:23] <Syldra> ThatGuyOverThere: just do sudo ifdown eth0 then, you can also remove the ethernet settings in /etc/network if you want to
[02:23] <ThatGuyOverThere> I've tried everything and so this is what I'm gonna try next.
[02:23] <n8bounds> guest17747, do a sudo apt-get install usb-creator
[02:23] <d0wn> laclasse: more errors. http://pastebin.com/d345a4467
[02:23] <mnaines> ThatGuyOverThere: scratch Syldra's command...It is ifconfig eth0 down
[02:23] <guest17747> oh man... duh!  shoot, thanks
[02:23] <DerKlempner> Anybody have any experience with DNSMasq?
[02:24] <losher> ThatGuyOverThere: I've heard weirder things. You want something like 'sudo ifconfig eth0 down' from a terminal. You might be able to do it from network manager instead...
[02:24] <laclasse> d0wn, now do: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:24] <n8bounds> np
[02:24] <BumpTop> what is the name of the Flash Player plugin?
[02:24] <DeathFox> i just downloaded a gnome theme how do i install it
[02:24] <BumpTop> package?
[02:24] <ThatGuyOverThere> Alright.
[02:24] <laclasse> DeathFox, drag and drop in the apparance window
[02:24] <huston> ok so i booted the live cd image on the computer. now if i install ubuntu will it automattically install the 64bit version instead of the 32 bit version?
[02:24] <d0wn> neverind! i fixed it. thanks laclasse
[02:24] <laclasse> d0wn, ;-)
[02:24] <n8bounds> Deathfox, drag and drop the theme onto the the theme changer window (appearances > theme tab)
[02:24] <guest17747> n8bounds: I get the same error message
[02:24] <ThatGuyOverThere> It also says "device not managed" under wireless in the Network Manager.
[02:24] <ThatGuyOverThere> What can I do about that?
[02:24] <Shawn-> huston Theres different disks
[02:24] <guest17747> Couldn't find package usb-creator
[02:24] <d0wn> laclasse: i just looked at which packages needed "configured", and apt-get install'd them
[02:25] <guest17747> sudo apt-get install usb-creator
[02:25] <jedc> huston, you need to use the 64 bit install disk
[02:25] <n8bounds> guest17747, do this command: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude install usb-creator
[02:25] <laclasse> d0wn, right, still ... issue the dpkg --configure -a, it will set all packages needing to be configures
[02:25] <laclasse> configured*
[02:25] <BumpTop> where is the flash plugin on synaptic package manager?
[02:25] <mnaines> ThatGuyOverThere: I don't need to bring my eth0 ports offline when I use the wifi...As long as I only have one port in use at any time, there aren't any problems
[02:25] <BumpTop> what is the name
[02:25] <d0wn> laclasse: okay :] thanks
[02:25] <laclasse> d0wn, np
[02:26] <ThatGuyOverThere> I did some searching around and found "sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode managed". Will that do it?
[02:26] <mnaines> BumpTop: It should say "Adobe Flash Plugin Installer" in the description
[02:26] <guest17747> Seems to have worked
[02:26] <n8bounds> bumptop, the easiest thing to do is install the package "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[02:26] <guest17747> n8bounds:  thanks!
[02:26] <n8bounds> good, np
[02:26] <guest17747> Whats the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[02:26] <Livingroom> hey guys how can i look through the contents of two directories that contain similarly-named files and determine based on file size which ones are not duplicates?
[02:27] <n8bounds> guest17747, its very little, aptitude is just newer and a bit better about cleaning up after itself
[02:27] <BumpTop> getting flash player on ubuntu seems like an impossible mission.
[02:27] <losher> guest17747: slight differences in functionality. Use whichever you prefer. You can switch between them until you decide...
[02:27] <guest17747> hmm... ok, thanks guys... still a noob. Obviously
[02:27] <{Onyx}> I didn't have much trouble getting flash on ubuntu.
[02:27] <seidos> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:28] <seidos> that's what it was
[02:28] <BumpTop> i did
[02:28] <BumpTop> what do i do with it?
[02:28] <ThatGuyOverThere> Anybody...?
[02:28]  * Keiya sighs
[02:28] <{Onyx}> Just a problem with the start of a video or flash ad makes a really annoying sound for a second.
[02:28] <losher> guest17747: this is a good place for noobs...
[02:28] <seidos> !who | BumpTop
[02:28] <Danbo19> I'm having problems with sound. I just installed Jaunty on my desktop and until today, sound worked fine. But yesterday I unplugged my speakers to plug into a laptop, and now today my desktop has no sound. The sound guide on the forums seems to only have information for people who haven't gotten sound to work at all.
[02:28] <dethaddr> I EFFFINNNGG LOVE UBUNTUUUUUUU!
[02:28] <Keiya> Looks like I still have to boot to Windows to use Outlook.
[02:28] <laclasse> BumpTop, just use the Add/Remove program, install reboot, go to youtube
[02:28] <Balsaq> my system monitor hits 100% CPU usage most of the time..an i frying the CPU?
[02:28] <{Onyx}> Keiya, have you tried evolution?
[02:28]  * seidos is an expert n00b
[02:28] <guest17747> Now that I have usb-creator installed, I can't find it in the menus. Is it only accessible via terminal?
[02:29] <laclasse> BumpTop, if this does not work, file a bug
[02:29] <laclasse> BumpTop, btw, it does work ;-)
[02:29] <BumpTop> !tab
[02:29] <Keiya> {Onyx}: Yes. The OWA connector doesn't work with Exchange 2007, and the MAPI connector just crashes it.
[02:29] <huston> ok. one last question. if i install juanty will i have any issues updating through the update manager to the 9.10 release at the end of the month? i've had issues with it in the past when i tried to use it to upgrade to juanty, it broke my installation.

[02:29] <{Onyx}> How about thunderbird?
[02:29] <ThatGuyOverThere> By the way, if I go ifconfig eth0 down... eth0 will come back up when I restart, won't it?
[02:29] <n8bounds> guest17747, its called usb somethin somethin in the system gnome menu
[02:29] <BumpTop> <tab huston>
[02:29] <Keiya> Doesn't have Exchange support.
[02:29] <BumpTop> <tabhuston
[02:29] <Keiya> Or calendar, for that matter...
[02:30] <Keiya> If I just wanted mail, I'd just use imap :P
[02:30] <BumpTop> !<huston>
[02:30] <laclasse> huston, no, all upgrades are supported, from LTS to LTS and from one version to the next. The updater will see 9.10 avalaible and will offer to upgrade. Prop drivers could be an issue but generally it is smooth
[02:30] <BumpTop> oh
[02:30] <{Onyx}> imap doesn't work very well with evo
[02:30] <dethaddr> hey dude with the usb issue PM i just just just did it
[02:30] <losher> ThatGuyOverThere: yes, the effects of typing ifconfig on a terminal will not last past a reboot...
 test
[02:30] <guest17747> n8bounds: I checked the System > Pref and System > Admin; but I can't find the app
[02:30] <ThatGuyOverThere> Is there anything I can do about that?
[02:30] <guest17747> usb-creator
[02:30] <ThatGuyOverThere> ...that isn't complicated?
[02:30] <Keiya> {Onyx}: Right, but I want the calendar features anyway, which aren't available over imap, so it's not relevent
[02:30] <BumpTop> aaaaa
[02:31] <huston> ok. thanks guys.
[02:31] <DigitalKiwi> BumpTop: what on earth are you doing
[02:31] <losher> huston: note that 9.04 isn't especially stable, and 9.10 will probably be less so...
[02:31] <Balsaq> system monitor hitting 100% CPU usage almost constantly...am i frying my CPU?
[02:31] <BumpTop> i am trying to do this: huston: oh
[02:31] <{Onyx}> I haven't had any problems with 9.04 beyond a few minor things
[02:31] <BumpTop> !<tab>
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> Balsaq, well, what is causing it to spike?
[02:32] <n8bounds> for me, its in system > administration > USB Startup Disk Creator
[02:32] <seidos> BumpTop: no <>
[02:32] <dethaddr> !guest17747 still got issues?
[02:32] <Balsaq> who lnow just looked and that sumanugun rides ride up there all the time...whew
[02:32] <losher> {Onyx}: stick around: sound, flash, other stuff...
[02:32] <guest17747> dethaddr: yes, can't find the usb-creator app
[02:32] <Keiya> Flash isn't Ubuntu's fault
[02:32] <guest17747> still looking
[02:32] <BumpTop> !<losher> aaa
[02:32] <Keiya> It'd be a lot more stable if Adobe'd give us the source
[02:32] <n8bounds> !usb-creator
[02:32] <BumpTop> i cant do it
[02:33] <Danbo19> Balsaq: do you use Gnome do? sometime do sits there and eats all my CPU for whatever reason and I have to kil it
[02:33] <BumpTop> \
[02:33] <dethaddr> system/admin
[02:33] <{Onyx}> Only sound issue I had was that my onboard sound chip went legacy in 9.04 so I had to edit /etc/modules to load it
[02:33] <seidos> {Onyx}: I had a problem with sound and video, but they weren't serious.  Intrepid was another story.  hosed my heron install
[02:33] <ThatGuyOverThere> Nobody answered me about the wireless device...
[02:33] <ThatGuyOverThere> ...in Network Manager it says "device not managed."
[02:33] <BumpTop> !<
[02:33] <ThatGuyOverThere> What can I do about that?
[02:33] <{Onyx}> I did a brief search and it seems your wireless device sucks for linux support.
[02:33] <ThatGuyOverThere> Mine?
[02:33] <Balsaq> Danbo19: dunno have ubunto 904 newbie here
[02:33] <ajwo> is there a package for a jdbc driver for SQLite?
[02:33] <seidos> {Onyx}: oh yeah, and wireless, switched from ndiswrapper to ath5k.  it really depends on your hardware.
[02:34] <ThatGuyOverThere> Never mind.
[02:34] <ThatGuyOverThere> So...?
[02:34] <Balsaq> if iride at 100 percent does it cook the CPU
[02:34] <{Onyx}> Yeah dude, yours
[02:34] <Livingroom> ok guys: new problem. atheros wifi on ubuntu intrepid. goes "silent" and refuses to "wake up" after maybe 5-10 seconds. have to restart wireless to get it to work again. if i tell a shell to ping <ip address> it will keep the connection alive. suggestions?
[02:34] <ThatGuyOverThere> Oh. Well, yeah, I already know that.
[02:34] <Danbo19> Gnome do is just a nifty little program launcher, you have to install it yourself though so you'd know
[02:34] <Keiya> But yeah.
[02:35] <Keiya> Evolution doesn't work and OWA is just /painful/
[02:35] <huston> to any ubuntu devs that may be on: thanks for the great OS.
[02:35] <AstroEl> :)\
[02:35] <Keiya> (It's designed to only work on IE. Of course.)
[02:35] <Balsaq> Danbo19: dont recall installing anything buy 9.04, the updates and flash
[02:35] <AstroEl> three cheers for Ubuntu
[02:35] <ThatGuyOverThere> But just pretending it doesn't... Is there anyway to get the "device not managed" problem resolved?
[02:35] <BumpTop> :-)
[02:35] <{Onyx}> I can't wait to get my new system up and running so I can see just how pretty I can make gnome.
[02:35] <seidos> boooo to OWA
[02:35] <Keiya> seidos: Well, it's OWA or boot to windows. :P
[02:35] <{Onyx}> My current rig isn't good enough for anything beyond gtk themes
[02:36] <Balsaq> Danbo19: unless it came in with ubuntu 9.04...
[02:36] <seidos> Keiya: virtual box?  :/
[02:36] <john> ANonnyMoose
[02:36] <accol> hey guys whats the command to connect to wireless via the terminal?
[02:36] <Keiya> seidos: I don't have a spair license, or even real windows disks >_>
[02:36] <Balsaq> Danbo19: i have heard ubuntu is gnome
[02:37] <BumpTop> how do you do this:
[02:37] <BumpTop> Nick: text text text text text text text text
[02:37] <seidos> !tab | BumpTop
[02:37] <seidos> BumpTop: tab?
[02:37] <seidos> BumpTop: tab is above the caps lock key usually
[02:37] <BumpTop> !tab|seidos a
[02:38] <ThatGuyOverThere> Ugh... I'm leaving. I'll try asking later.
[02:38] <BumpTop> !tab | ubottu aaa
[02:38] <accol> hey guys whats the command to connect to wireless via the terminal?
[02:38] <seidos> Keiya: me neither, but I don't have a need to use OWA currently
[02:38] <Omlette> Does anyone know why the hald process would suddenly start eating all my memory and CPU cycles?
[02:38] <musikgoat> accol: man iwconfig
[02:39] <rensomsne> BumpTop: start typing the first couple of letters of the nick, then press the tab key. It will autocomplete the nick.
[02:39] <rensomsne> it's the one with the arrows on it, above caps lock.
[02:40] <Balsaq> Danbo19: just looked at system, have 6 gnome process; running but the appear to be sleeping?
[02:40] <kam00zy> can anybody tell me how to install minefield?
[02:40] <ajwo> is there a package for a jdbc driver for SQLite?
[02:40] <kam00zy> from a tar.bz2
[02:40] <rigodeni> hey guys, whats the best/easiest way to get flash working correctly on the Chromium Browser? im on Ubuntu 9.04 using version 4.0.219
[02:40] <musikgoat> !shiretoko | kam00zy
[02:40] <kam00zy> its 3.7 musikgoat
[02:40] <musikgoat> ahh
[02:41] <guest17747> still trying to find usb-creator after install... any suggestions?
[02:41] <kam00zy> its in beta but its epic
[02:41] <Balsaq> rigodeni: many having trouble with flash in 904
[02:41] <kam00zy> http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/
[02:41] <musikgoat> kam00zy: your trying to build from source?  there isn't a PPA?
[02:41] <kam00zy> err now that i saw
[02:41] <Keiya> Who/what is BumpTop and why did they/it msg me "<tab>"?
[02:41] <kam00zy> thats all ive got ^^
[02:41] <kam00zy> the link
[02:43] <musikgoat> kam00zy: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[02:43] <Balsaq> wow my cpu is up around 100% usage all the time...does that cook the cpu?
[02:43] <Omlette> Balsaq: Only if you don't have enough cooling. :P
[02:43] <seidos> Balsaq: it shouldn't cook your cpu, you can use "top" in terminal to see what process is using up your cpu
[02:44] <Balsaq> seidos: lots of process but allare sleeping except firefox
[02:44] <Omlette> time to kill firefox, then.
[02:45] <seidos> Balsaq: you can stop firefox if you're not using it: pkill -stop firefox in terminal
[02:45] <seidos> Balsaq: you can also find out what is taking up so much cpu.  usually flash
[02:45] <rigodeni> Balsaq: at this point i dont even have flash installed for it, i would like to at least install it and go from there
[02:45] <Keiya> seidos: POP and IMAP don't let me access the calendar stuff, which is heavily used here...
[02:45] <Balsaq> siedos: as i learn more i can prolly cut out some stuff...on ff now...maybe i can dump flash plays utube real slow anyhow
[02:46] <Balsaq> seidos: do i even need flash-took it cause utube said i need it
[02:46] <BumpTop> Ubuntu[Tradition]
[02:46] <seidos> Balsaq: if you want to watch videos on youtube.com, yes
[02:47] <Balsaq> seidos: but they play too slow too enjoy anyway
[02:47] <gilnl> hello, has there been any updates on the Quicktime stream bug?
[02:47] <Balsaq> seidos: so if flash is using all my power i dont need utube that bad
[02:47] <kam00zy> what version number is jaunty?
[02:47] <kam00zy> 9.09?
[02:48] <eminor> 04
[02:48] <seidos> Balsaq: close the tab that has youtube open, see what happens.
[02:48] <Balsaq> seidos: didnt know flash was a power sucker even when just using chat
[02:48] <Balsaq> seidos: i am only in here right now
[02:48] <seidos> Balsaq: coooool.  how are you?
[02:48] <seidos> :)
[02:48] <guest17747> Do I need to upgrade to Intrepid to use usb-creator? I'm on 8.04 currently.
[02:48] <Balsaq> seidos: great havin a ball with this new ubuntu stuff on my 11 year old dell
[02:49] <htorres11393> 8.04 should be able to work considering it's a long term release
[02:49] <seidos> Balsaq: firefox uses between 16 to 28% cpu on my system right now.
[02:49] <guest17747> Thats kinda what I figured too
[02:49] <htorres11393> you don't gotta upgrade it for three years
[02:49] <{Onyx}> Balsaq: I'm in the same boat. Running an old Compaq with a p3 katami 450mhz proc :)
[02:49] <htorres11393> does it work?
[02:49] <Balsaq> seidos: what are your specs
[02:50] <seidos> Balsaq: got an old dell with ubuntu on it.  not sure how old.  what are your specs?  my dell is a 1gz with 128mb ram, matrox video.  it has ubuntu server on it
[02:50] <Balsaq> onyx: ill figure it out i know this beast can do it casue it played utube with w98
[02:50] <guest17747> Someone helped me use aptitude to install usb-creator a minute ago but I can't seem to find it in the OS menus
[02:50] <htorres11393> run the command
[02:50] <seidos> Balsaq: laptop is 2gb ram, intel video, 1.47 duo core
[02:50] <Balsaq> seidos: i got 400mgz pII mmx 512cache 768sdram 8mb ati
[02:50] <guest17747> I tried "sudo aptitude install usb-creator"
[02:51] <guest17747> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "usb-creator"
[02:51] <guest17747> did it not install?
[02:51] <htorres11393> umm idk try from source
[02:51] <guest17747> shoot, I'm not that advanced quite yet
[02:51] <guest17747> is compiling from source a simple process?
[02:52] <htorres11393> depends
[02:52] <seidos> Balsaq: how does it run for you?  that explains it.  what is .28% of 1470
[02:52] <htorres11393> download the source
[02:52] <Balsaq> siedos: i know i can play utube cause it worked with w98 perfectly...but real slow with buntu..need to find drivers...buntu doesnt have em ...thats what i think
[02:52] <guest17747> ok
[02:52] <seidos> like 441?
[02:52] <stevetran> hello, any scripts experts here? I really need a script that replace all my PHP variables "$this->abc" with $this->viewParams['abc'] in many files
[02:52] <guest17747> is there a command for downloading the usb-creator source?
[02:52] <seidos> Balsaq: not sure if it's a driver issue...could be a software issue.
[02:53] <htorres11393> nope
[02:53] <Balsaq> seidos: looked inside my software..says "no proprietary drivers"
[02:53] <Biovore> stevetran: look at sed.. thats a 1 liner..
[02:53] <htorres11393> use firefox or whatever browser you use
[02:53] <Biovore> or learn vim and emacs
[02:53] <guest17747> ok
[02:53] <guest17747> will do
[02:53] <Balsaq> seidos: otherwise she is humminalong better than when it was new in 1998?
[02:53] <Keiya> http://keiya.pastebin.ca/1587043 <- Segfault! How I do loath thee!
[02:54] <guest17747> I need the tar.gz file, correct?
[02:54] <Balsaq> seidos: still take 3 mnutes to go from off to online but that has always been that way but online moves around better than w98 when it was new
[02:54] <Keiya> "We logged in! Let's segfault!"
[02:54] <seidos> Balsaq: there are some great programs that would work on that system.
[02:54] <Keiya> I hate Evolution right now.
[02:54] <Keiya> And Microsoft.
[02:55] <Enigma885> any Audacious users over here??
[02:55] <Keiya> And, um, sleep.
[02:55] <Balsaq> seidos: hey great what are they
[02:55] <htorres11393> stop what ur doing
[02:55] <guest17747> ok
[02:55] <htorres11393> i got a deb package
[02:55] <Balsaq> seidos: computer dork here though
[02:55] <seidos> Balsaq: server programs.  apache2
[02:55] <htorres11393> here's the link: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/all/usb-creator/download
[02:55] <Enigma885> guys i need some help with compiling a program
[02:55] <Balsaq> seidos: what that for?
[02:56] <guest17747> cool
[02:56] <htorres11393> yeah
[02:56] <htorres11393> i'm installing it too cuz it's a good thing to have
[02:56] <demonspork> Can someone who has google chrome installed please PM me, I need to duplicate a bug
[02:56] <Balsaq> seidos: what is the purpose of server pkg apache2
[02:56] <seidos> Balsaq: bind9, or dnsmasq...what else?
[02:56] <guest17747> so, i need to edit my sources.list?
[02:57] <seidos> Balsaq: webserver.  you can host your own website, but you would have to leave your computer on all the time
[02:57] <baldurpet> hi
[02:57] <Enigma885> SO, how can i get someone to listen in this flood of talks !!!!!
[02:57] <Tnavi> How can i Get Six Pack Abs
[02:57] <Tnavi> ??
[02:57] <htorres11393> idk i've never had to do that
[02:57] <htorres11393> lol
[02:57] <mike> hello
[02:57] <htorres11393> just get the deb file in the link
[02:58] <htorres11393> pick a mirror and download it
[02:58] <Balsaq> seidos: what are these pkgs for...are we taling about making utube run faster or that they are just good pkgs for some other reason?
[02:58] <guest17747> ahh.. ok
[02:58] <htorres11393> when it's done downloading just click on the deb file and it'll run the deb package manager
[02:58] <htorres11393> that takes care of everything
[02:58] <baldurpet> Can someone give me a quick help?
[02:58] <Orfeous> when will ubuntu 9.10 get a final release?
[02:58] <Balsaq> seidos: i dont know jack flippin  sh*t bout puters
[02:58] <guest17747> ok, i'm there
[02:58] <guest17747> its says that usb-creator requires two other packages
[02:58] <baldurpet> It's relating to writing to drives
[02:58] <baldurpet> Pretty basic
[02:58] <Enigma885> baldurpet, i wish i can
[02:59] <guest17747> mtools; syslinux
[02:59] <baldurpet> I just formatted a 1 TG HDD
[02:59] <Enigma885> baldurpet, go ahead i might help by any means
[02:59] <baldurpet> Enigma: sure
[02:59] <ajwo> anyone familiar with java and sqlite?
[02:59] <htorres11393> what?
[02:59] <echosystm> is it best to set your xorg dpi to the dpi of your monitor and set your computer to use smaller fonts OR just set your xorg dpi to something lower?
[02:59] <Rubinioo> how large usb stick do I need to create a usb live key?
[02:59] <baldurpet> using gparted
[02:59] <seidos> Balsaq: you're talking to me on internet relay chat.
[02:59] <baldurpet> and I mounted it using the command line
[02:59] <Balsaq> yup i know that seidos
[03:00] <baldurpet> but I can't copy things to it without using the command line
[03:00] <seidos> cool
[03:00] <guest17747> I think those two packages are included in the usb-creator package
[03:00] <guest17747> i'm learning
[03:00] <Balsaq> seidos: is that what those programs are for?
[03:00] <baldurpet> (using <sudo> on the command line)
[03:00] <wabash> Hello.
[03:00] <Enigma885> baldurpet, weird ..wat format did u use?
[03:00] <htorres11393> you'll never stop that believe me i'm still learning and i've been on it for a year
[03:00] <baldurpet> EXT4
[03:00] <wabash> Can anyone suggest a program to play real media files for ubu?
[03:00] <baldurpet> but this isn't the first time this has happened to me
[03:00] <htorres11393> idk what exactly it installs but it's a pretty neat thing
[03:00] <guest17747> haha... i can imagine
[03:00] <htorres11393> just run it from the command line
[03:00] <seidos> Balsaq: programs are for setting up a webserver.  If you want video to be faster, you can try using totem.  Flash is slow in ubuntu.  It's free.  To make it faster would have to learn how to improve the code
[03:01] <Enigma885> baldurpet, so wat did u do when i happened before ?
[03:01] <guest17747> I can see it installed into the System menu, I can see the icon
[03:01] <baldurpet> another HD I have is also mounted like this
[03:01] <guest17747> how do i run via terminal?
[03:01] <echosystm> anyone?
[03:01] <wabash> echosystm: what?
[03:01] <baldurpet> nothing, I just move files between them as root
[03:01] <wabash> maybe I can answer
[03:01] <echosystm> echosystm: is it best to set your xorg dpi to the dpi of your monitor and set your computer to use smaller fonts OR just set your xorg dpi to something lower?
[03:01] <htorres11393> just type in usb-creator
[03:01] <Enigma885> baldurpet, well..as a basic try; have u tried to reformat?
[03:01] <baldurpet> I just reformatted?
[03:01] <guest17747> cool, it opens the gui of usb-creator
[03:01] <wabash> don't know.
[03:01] <Keiya> But argh\
[03:01] <htorres11393> yeah
[03:01] <Keiya> This is a blocking issue
[03:01] <Keiya> t
[03:01] <wabash> anyone know about playing real media fils on linux?
[03:02] <htorres11393> get used to doing a lot of command line stuff
[03:02] <htorres11393> it's important
[03:02] <S4nD3r> I installed Ubuntu 9.04
[03:02] <Keiya> The mail is easy, but nothing supports the god damn Exchange calendar!
[03:02] <htorres11393> i used to know all the commands but now i forgot them since i haven't really done anything special in awhile
[03:02] <Balsaq> seidos: ok so i should try totem...still not sure what all those other things were...apache and all, were they also ideas for making utube faster or just good things for ubuntu
[03:02] <guest17747> sweet, thanks for the help man.
[03:02] <S4nD3r> but when I used cat /etc/debian_version
[03:02] <htorres11393> your welcome
[03:02] <guest17747> ya, I
[03:02] <Enigma885> baldurpet, system restart ?
[03:02] <S4nD3r> I saw its lenny/sid
[03:02] <baldurpet> I dunno
[03:02] <guest17747> I'm trying to learn terminal commands one at a time
[03:02] <S4nD3r> Is this correct?
[03:02] <baldurpet> you think?
[03:02] <htorres11393> yeah they aren't that hard they make sense
[03:03] <baldurpet> why would that affect my HDD?
[03:03] <Enigma885> baldurpet, i know those kind of things might seem primitive but really can ruin many bigger stuff
[03:03] <Balsaq> seidos: guess ill google em all and read bout em later
[03:03] <htorres11393> if not just alias them
[03:03] <htorres11393> but i don't recommend doing that
[03:03] <guest17747> alias?
[03:03] <htorres11393> because you lose a certain aspect of universalness
[03:03] <htorres11393> yeah alias
[03:03] <htorres11393> make one command into something else
[03:03] <S4nD3r> And?
[03:03] <htorres11393> for example make rm into delete
[03:03] <Balsaq> seidos: gonna go read boout totem now since everything if fine here except utube
[03:03] <baldurpet> hm idunno
[03:03] <Rubinioo> !bash
[03:03] <Enigma885> baldurpet, give it a shot and restart ur system with the HDD attached
[03:03] <baldurpet> ok sure...
[03:03] <danield707> or "ld" as "dir"
[03:04] <guest17747> oh ok
[03:04] <htorres11393> yeah
[03:04] <guest17747> like how macintoshes use "alias" instead of "shortcut"
[03:04] <htorres11393> idk how macintoshes work
[03:04] <htorres11393> never used them really
[03:04] <prince_jammys> S4nD3r: that's fine.
[03:04] <guest17747> all good, not important
[03:04] <echosystm> macs suck lol
[03:04] <guest17747> I see what you're saying though
[03:04] <echosystm> well, macbooks
[03:04] <htorres11393> yeah
[03:04] <echosystm> the desktops are pretty cool
[03:05] <S4nD3r> But I thought my ubuntu was intrepid
[03:05] <htorres11393> thing is that when you're without a gui you can use the command line it's very powerful
[03:05] <seidos> Balsaq: check out transmission while you're at it
[03:05] <htorres11393> helps you fix a lot of things
[03:05] <htorres11393> i got stuck without a GUI and i used the command line and fixed it
[03:05] <S4nD3r> its lenny
[03:05] <S4nD3r> ?
[03:05] <prince_jammys> S4nD3r: that's not even the ubuntu release. I don't know why debian_version is still there, but it's been there in every ubuntu release i've seen.
[03:05] <S4nD3r> lenny is 8?
[03:05] <foey> I'm just running ubuntu-server without any X now. :-)
[03:05] <htorres11393> and if you get on another person's computer you can do a lot of stuff too cuz the commands are universal
[03:05] <htorres11393> lol cool dude
[03:06] <guest17747> yeah man, i see whatcha mean
[03:06] <htorres11393> well nice helping you dude
[03:06] <guest17747> ya, thanks man!
[03:06] <htorres11393> np
[03:06] <S4nD3r> what to do?
[03:06] <S4nD3r> Its a problem?
[03:06] <prince_jammys> S4nD3r: no, lenny is not ubuntu. it's the debian version. (ubuntu is based on debian). Don't worry about that file.
[03:06] <prince_jammys> S4nD3r: no.
[03:06] <htorres11393> now can anyone tell me why in the name of God chromium browser has so many updates?
[03:07] <S4nD3r> umm
[03:07] <prince_jammys> S4nD3r: type: lsb_release -a  to see your ubuntu version.
[03:07] <mgv2> there is no fucus mode on aiming at open arena? - i dont understand how can i hit with such small dot
[03:08] <S4nD3r> Distributor ID:	Debian Description:	Debian GNU/Linux testing/unstable Release:	testing/unstable Codename:	n/a
[03:08] <S4nD3r> its not really ubuntu
[03:08] <Lillymon> I am having real webcam problems here.
[03:08] <Biovore> mgv2: the "railgun" as a zoom in..
[03:08] <S4nD3r> deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid universe
[03:08] <S4nD3r> these is in my source.list
[03:09] <Lillymon> Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000. Appears to be functional. Cheese freezes, then outputs a blank file when I tell it to record. VLC does the same. Video outputs to /dev/video0, I don't know where sound goes.
[03:09] <Jagger> anybody know if C&C will work on ubuntu 9.04
[03:09] <Rubinioo> Jagger: in wine yes
[03:10] <mgv2> Biovore, hi - how do you use the zoom in?
[03:10] <Keiya> Aarrgh, why does Gnome keep forcing this pannel to the top?
[03:10] <vero_> lkmk,m
[03:10] <Keiya> I want it on the bottom, damnit!
[03:10] <Jagger> well i downloaded the torrent and i cant figure out how to make it work
[03:11] <Rubinioo> btw is a usb startup disk much faster than a live cd?'
[03:11] <vero_> no
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> Rubinioo:  yes.
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> I find them much faster.
[03:11] <vero_> no
[03:11] <Rubinioo> Dr_Willis: ok thx man
[03:11] <Raenir> heya, how do I double check which version of linux I have? I think I have 64 bit but I dont rmember
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> Rubinioo:  of course it pays to have a decent flash drive. :)  I use them to install from all the time.
[03:12] <chrism> I am having a hard time installing my lexmark printer in 9.04. Lexmark install completes successfully but no device is shown in Administration > Printing. Tips?
[03:13] <S4nD3r> its a ubuntu
[03:13] <S4nD3r> right?
[03:13] <chrism> right, default gnome
[03:15] <Raenir> how do i check if my install of linux is 64 bit or 32 bit?
[03:15] <Biovore> uname -a
[03:16] <Biovore> i386 i686 -> 32bit   x86_64
[03:16] <Biovore> is 64bit
[03:16] <Balsaq> seidos: is trying to play utube videos the same as trying to play mp3...cause thats what totem seems to be about
[03:16] <ubox> anyone ever have a problem with gnome not giving focus to a newly open window?
[03:16] <S4nD3r> Linux matrix 2.6.27-14-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 31 13:01:41 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:16] <S4nD3r> Its 32 bits?
[03:16] <Biovore> yes
[03:16] <Raenir> 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:58:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:16] <Balsaq> seidos: as far as i know i dont do any mp3 unless that is utube
[03:16] <Biovore> ^ 64 bits
[03:16] <Raenir> so _64 is 64 bit yes?
[03:16] <Keiya> Well then.
[03:16] <Raenir> yay
[03:16] <Keiya> I guess you're not supposed to try to change the panels on gnome. >_<
[03:16] <Raenir> i downloaded the right ati drivers then
[03:17] <Keiya> Too bad it's now in a useless jumbled mess of a state
[03:17] <Raenir> anyone know if theres an ATI version of CUDA?
[03:17] <Biovore> !ati
[03:17] <mgv2> keepassx is the best?
[03:17] <Keiya> Hmm
[03:17] <Keiya> Gonna rerun this in screen, just in case
[03:18] <S4nD3r> How to discover if my processor is 64bits?
[03:18] <foey> To add Windows shares to samba, do I just need to edit the smb.conf file?
[03:19] <Cyrano_away> foey: That is the way I do it.
[03:20] <foey> Cyrano_away : Thanks, so something like [Share 1] path = /home/shared
[03:20] <Raenir> where can I find 64 bit version of flash for ubuntu?
[03:21] <chuy_max> Raenir, adobe website
[03:21] <Raenir> what they gave me didnt work
[03:21] <tritium> chuy_max, Raenir: no, in the ubuntu repos
[03:21] <Biovore> !flash
[03:21] <tritium> !flash
[03:21] <Cyrano_away> foey: Yeah,  Follow the section in the default file for the [Home] share.
[03:22] <tritium> Raenir: install flashplugin-nonfree, and you'll be good, even on 64-bit
[03:22] <mgv2> what is that http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5094/11612536.png?
[03:22] <chuy_max> mmmm, really, things have changed for ubuntu 64 bit ^^
[03:22] <Cyrano_away> foey: I set some of my shares to browseable = yes, readonly = no
[03:22] <Raenir> thanks
[03:23] <Raenir> now i think theres stuff I need to do to be able to play MP3s?
[03:23] <foey> Cyrano_away : Ok, next question would be I want everyone to be able to access the share without a username or password, guest accounts. I need read/write within the shared folder, is that a option?
[03:23] <Cyrano_away> foey: For my laptops and quick setups I use user based authentication
[03:24] <Keiya> I guess you're not supposed to try to change the gnome panels...
[03:24] <stevetran> Biovore: Can you please help me? Can't do it :(
[03:24] <Keiya> CAn you even reorder thiings on them?
[03:24] <Cyrano_away> foey: You will need to make the share not read only, setup guest access (I have not used that feature) and then set the directory permissions correctly.
[03:24] <chuy_max> how can I install a modifiable ubuntu version on a usb drive (not a bootable iso). I tried unetbootin but that doesn't let you install packages permanently on the usb drive
[03:24] <Biovore> stevetran: do what?
[03:25] <Cyrano_away> foey: I would suggest you still lock the directory for everyone and just set owner and group access.
[03:25] <foey> Cyrano_away : Thanks, big help.
[03:25] <stevetran> the sed thingie
[03:25] <Biovore> stevetran: just a search and replace right?
[03:25] <stevetran> yep
[03:25] <Biovore> sed -s /<stuff to replace>/<replace with stuff>/g
[03:25] <Raenir> Strange 5 minutes ago i checked Update Manager and it said I had a brand new install
[03:25] <Cyrano_away> Keiya: I change my panels all the time.
[03:26] <Raenir> and was up to date
[03:26] <Raenir> but now it found 200 megs of updates
[03:26] <Raenir> that it pulled from nowhere
[03:26] <Biovore> but you may need  to escape some stuff and you need to cat the file into it and output it to a temp file so you can look at the results.
[03:26] <Cyrano_away> Keiya: To reorder things you need to right click on them and unselect "locked to panel"  Then you can select move to move them around.
[03:27] <Biovore> stevetran: what's the sub string you want to replace and the source file?
[03:27] <Enigma885> HEY guys i need some help compiling a program
[03:27] <Biovore> and the string to replace it with.
[03:27] <Cyrano_away> Keiya: To move the panel itself, chose properties of the panel set it to not expand to full width.  Then you can drag the panel to another monitor or to the right or left of the screen.
[03:27] <Biovore> Enigma885: what program?
[03:28] <prajjwal> hi, does anyone know if there is a way to get notepad++ working on ubuntu, without WINE ???
[03:28] <stevetran> Biovore $this->anything where anything = combination of characters, numers and _ with $this->viewParams['anything']
[03:28] <prajjwal> i googled it ... seems like a NO bust just wanna double check
[03:28] <Keiya> Cyrano_away: I unlocked everything :/
[03:28] <Keiya> Some things I still can't reorder.
[03:28] <stevetran> Biovore, i got sed now, but my regular exprsesion is bad :(
[03:28] <Enigma885> Biovore, I'm compiling Audacious from source an need to enable some features
[03:29] <Biovore> stevetran: yeah.. I am not quite that advanced with sed I can pull that out of the air..  Do-able..  I am not 100% sure what the perl regular expression is for that kind of operation.
[03:29] <DigitalKiwi> prajjwal: why use notepad++?
[03:29] <prajjwal> cause i like it ....
[03:29] <DigitalKiwi> geany > notepad++
[03:29] <prajjwal> and its slim ...
[03:30] <Biovore> gedit, kate, kwrite all do that same thing..
[03:30] <DigitalKiwi> and i like notepad++
[03:30] <Cyrano_away> So speaking of gnome panels.  At work I have dual screens and the bottom panel on my laptop screen below the external screen.  When I come home with only the laptop I always have to manually putz with the Nvidia settings to get just the 1920x1200 laptop display.
[03:30] <Biovore> and there slimmer..
[03:30] <jebblue> prajjwal: ask the authors to make it cross platform
[03:30] <stevetran> Biovore: okay, thanks alot anyway
[03:30] <Cyrano_away> No matter what I set the display as the bottom panel never shows up.
[03:30] <Biovore> Enigma885: you install all the development stuff?
[03:30] <Keiya> Oh, right click move
[03:30] <DigitalKiwi> Installed Size : 5820.00 K
[03:30] <DigitalKiwi> that's my geany
[03:30] <Enigma885> Biovore, http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D74%26t%3D94276&ei=5wjESoWxLZa8jAegut1A&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&ved=0CBMQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php%253Ff%253D74%2526t%253D94276%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
[03:31] <jebblue> Cyrano_away: I use the Restricted Drivers and don't have any issues
[03:31] <S4nD3r> Do you recommend install 64bits kernel?
[03:31] <Enigma885> Biovore, all dev stuff are installed
[03:31] <DigitalKiwi> though vim > geany
[03:31] <prajjwal> well ... but kate and kwrite i know is for Linux and i want somewhat of a consistent set of commands when i go to the Win2K at school ..... and thanks .... guess i'll just use Kate here then ..... thanks folks ...
[03:31] <GodfatherofEire> Anybody have any experience setting up a USB mic under Ubuntu?
[03:31] <Cyrano_away> A: it blows that I have to manually tell the lame binary drivers that I now only have one display, use that please.  and B: it sucks that gnome is too brain dead to know that, hey the screen bottom is 1200 lines up there, maybe I should scoot up some and say hi?
[03:32] <GodfatherofEire> Checked the forums, but all I got is dead links
[03:32] <Enigma885> Biovore, i need to know where am i supposed to do "pkg-config - cflags - libs libglade-2.0` "
[03:32] <jebblue> prajjwal: there is kde for windows I've heard
[03:32] <Cyrano_away> jebblue: I am using the restricted drivers as well.  9.04 64.
[03:32] <DigitalKiwi> prajjwal: kde runs on windows so should kate, and geany has a windows port, as does vim
[03:32] <Biovore> Enigma885: right on the command line.. or its a manual build..
[03:33] <_sEBAs_> Olá gente!, estou vendendo meu openMoko, deixo o link do mercadolivre http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-109792666-openmoko-neo-freerunner-linux-sensor-touch-e-acelermetros-_JM
[03:33] <Enigma885> Biovore, i've already compiled it. But not with the need feature to accept the plugin.
[03:33] <jebblue> Cyrano_away: you want it to be automatic? disconnect from two at work and 1 at home and it works?
[03:33] <prajjwal> thanks for that ...will look for a  way to put it on my comp xD ... and yea .... not a big fan of the Vim for windows .....
[03:34] <Raenir> !ati
[03:34] <Enigma885> Biovore, the author says：`pkg-config --cflags --libs libglade-2.0` Add end of the line: `pkg-config - cflags - libs libglade-2.0`
[03:34] <Biovore> Enigma885: yeah..  the google translate messes up the download.. so I can't look at any source to give you clues..
[03:34] <robbmunson> !br | _sEBAs_
[03:34] <_sEBAs_> robbmunson, sim percebi
[03:34] <_sEBAs_> robbmunson, valeu!
[03:34] <Biovore> Enigma885: pkg-config returns compiler flags and is sometimes used when doing manual compile jobs in line with the gcc command.
[03:35] <Cyrano_De> jebblue: Yes.  I shut down at work, undoc the laptop.  Boot up at home with just the laptop display set to the correct resolution.  Shutdown, take the laptop to the office, doc it and turn it on.  Now the external monitor is set and the resolution is adjusted once again.
[03:35] <Enigma885> Biovore, so am i supposed to use it with ./configure ?
[03:35] <Biovore> Enigma885: is there a ./configure?
[03:35] <Biovore> err configure
[03:35] <Enigma885> Biovore, yea for Audacious package
[03:36] <Cyrano_De> jebblue: Xinarama used to do that without any issues.  Stupid lame binary, don't work with xinerama, dirvers suck that way.
[03:36] <Biovore> Enigma885: get you get me a clean link for that tar ball so I can see whats in it?
[03:36] <jebblue> Cyrano_De: try the open source ones?
[03:36] <Enigma885> Biovore, the whole thing is that this plugin need Audacious to b compiled using a specific feature
[03:36] <Raenir> !wine
[03:37] <foey> Any must have server programs for ubuntu-server?
[03:37] <Raenir> apache?
[03:37] <Cyrano_De> jebblue: I would love to but they don't support this chipset very well and have no 3D support.  I wish Dell would have offered the ATI cards with this laptop.
[03:37] <Enigma885> Biovore, ok http://distfiles.atheme.org/audacious-2.1.tgz and http://distfiles.atheme.org/audacious-plugins-2.1.tgz for Audacious
[03:37] <foey> Raenir : Got that, its currently a webserver and samba file server
[03:38] <Biovore> Enigma885: does this include your plugin your tring to build?
[03:38] <robbmunson> foey, i would suggest LAMP for starters....
[03:38] <Cyrano_De> foey: for a server the fewer packages the better.
[03:38] <robbmunson> !lamp | foey
[03:38] <robbmunson> just as a bare minimum...i dont think you would need anything else if you managed to grab those :)
[03:38] <Cyrano_De> foey: The less attack vectors the safer it is.  That and updates are less disruptive.
[03:39] <Raenir> !samba
[03:39] <Raenir> aha
[03:39] <foey> Thanks, can anyone suggest a decent backup program?
[03:40] <Enigma885> Biovore, http://forum.ubuntu.org.cn/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=94276 and download ShowLyric32.tar.gz
[03:40] <robbmunson> !backup | foey (hate to keep throwing ubottu factoids)
[03:40] <Enigma885> Biovore, i cannot get a direct link for the plugin sry
[03:40] <Biovore> Enigma885: that good enough.. I got it..
[03:40] <robbmunson> theres a bunch of them foey, you just have to pick the one that fits you the best, look around a bit :)
[03:40] <foey> robbmunson : hehe, no problems. Thanks.
[03:41] <Enigma885> Biovore, thanks =)
[03:41] <dethaddr> can any one help me configure wine?
[03:41] <jebblue> foey: I use rsync and this script http://pastebin.com/m5dde28fc
[03:41] <Biovore> Enigma885: so this plugin looks like it comes in 2 poarts
[03:41] <robbmunson> dethaddr, if you tell us what you want to configure in wine we probably could :)
[03:41] <chu_> silly question, but how do I quit from irssi?
[03:42] <foey> [ / quit ]
[03:42] <Enigma885> Biovore, nope it's just ShowLyric32.tar.gz
[03:42] <Enigma885> Biovore, or u meant the Audacious Plugins package ?
[03:42] <dabernal> hi, how can I connect a yamaha keyboard to my ubuntu distribution... using ubuntu-studio
[03:42] <dabernal> hi, how can I connect a yamaha keyboard to my ubuntu distribution... using ubuntu-studio
[03:42] <chu_> nice
[03:42] <Biovore> Enigma885: the lyris stuff..
[03:43] <seidos> Balsaq: totem plays video too, but not flash videos
[03:43] <dabernal> have  a guitarist, a pianist  and my laptop with the necesary cables
[03:43] <dabernal> jack specialist?
[03:43] <Enigma885> Biovore, the lyrics stuff, as i have just said, is ShowLyric32.tar.gz  only
[03:43] <dethaddr> well i just installed ubuntu on a buddies computer. and im trying to set up diablo 2
[03:43] <Balsaq> seidos: well is utube flash videos or does that mean try totem and dump flash
[03:43] <Enigma885> Biovore, those other packages for 64 machines
[03:44] <mysteriousdaren> wouldnt that be in gaming?
[03:44] <robbmunson> dabernal, have you tried asking in #ubuntustudio ?
[03:44] <Biovore> Enigma885: its just a plugin..   don't need to rebuild audacity..
[03:44] <mysteriousdaren> diablo2?
[03:44] <Cumshot> hi: i used ubuntu in the past, but my wireless cards never quite worked; with the new version of ubuntu, do the wireless cards work out of the box, such as with sony vaio intel laptops?
[03:44] <Biovore> Enigma885: infact.. I don't think you need to build squat..
[03:44] <prappl93> Evolution won't gather images from my e-mails, and I have it set to load HTML, how do I fix this?
[03:45] <masterghost> as I install compiz on a Dell XPS M1330 laptop
[03:45] <dethaddr> hey cumshot, haha, yes. mine works fine. in fact it does and the onboard ethernet does not
[03:45] <Enigma885> Biovore, Audacious cannot recognize the plugin ..and the author wrote about that under "Known issues: "
[03:45] <dabernal> cool
[03:45] <Balsaq> seidos: i am not sure if you are saying i should ude totem to play youtube...and if so...does flash mess with the totem if i get totem
[03:45] <dabernal> working with ardour
[03:45] <dethaddr> yes diablo 2
[03:46] <Feadurn> bonsoir à tous
[03:46] <jebblue> prappl93: you can hit Ctrl + I to get images to load or put the user's address in your address book
[03:46] <dethaddr> i have it installed at my house. but i cant install it here
[03:46] <Enigma885> Biovore, saying "Recompile the main program audacious. Add end of the line: `pkg-config - cflags - libs libglade-2.0` "
[03:46] <Cyrano_De> !fr |feadurn
[03:46] <Biovore> Enigma885: the compiling part is just cd to a directory with a makefile file in it and type make
[03:46] <mdmkolbe> On linux command line, what is the best way to convert a hex encoded file to binary?  (i.e. file contains "4142" should become "AB")
[03:46] <smegzor> I have ubuntu 9.04 64bit, an ati card and the latest driver from ati.  When I boot up, Ubuntu complains that it can't find nvidia.  How do I stop it wanting nvidia?
[03:46] <Feadurn> oups sorry I didn't notice that is the english channel
[03:47] <seidos> Balsaq: no, I am saying totem and flash are separate.  can't help you with your flash problem, wish I could
[03:47] <Cumshot> one more question: im planning on using ubuntu just for regular web surfing and email/chatting, should i go with ubuntu or xubuntu or kubuntu
[03:47] <Balsaq> seidos: oh i realize that, is totem a possible fix for utube problems
[03:47] <robbmunson> Cumshot, that my friend is up to you....they all do it ;)
[03:47] <Cyrano_De> Cumshot: That depends on your personal preferences and the speed of your machine.
[03:47] <Biovore> Enigma885: the pkg-config stuff is handled by "configure" command when you build audatious..  to add the pkg-config would mean hacking up something..  Dosn't sound right to me..
[03:48] <Enigma885> Biovore, yea but how to write `pkg-config - cflags - libs libglade-2.0`
[03:48] <dethaddr> im using ubuntu for games and surfing and media
[03:48] <Balsaq> seidos: i just read the entire report on the ATI video card driver issues and ot doesn't look good
[03:48] <Cyrano_De> Cumshot: I've taken a liking to xubuntu and xfce these days.  Even on my new dual and quad core boxen.
[03:48] <soulnet-2> fina
[03:48] <DigitalKiwi> xfce is gnome with more bugs
[03:48] <Enigma885> Biovore, it's a simple plugin. I'm not paranoid about that indeed
[03:48] <prappl93> Can Ubuntu run properly with Fluxbox installed?
[03:48] <Cyrano_De> DigitalKiwi: And some configuration options.
[03:48] <Balsaq> they seem to have ways to mess with the radeon cards but i have the older xpert card and they dont mention that ne so i gues youtube can KMA
[03:49] <seidos> Balsaq: might be a work around.  I think there's software that lets you download youtube videos, perhaps even to convert them.  haven't tried
[03:49] <soulnet-2> how are you
[03:49] <Cyrano_De> prappl93: Fluxbox runs just fine with ubuntu.
[03:49] <Biovore> Enigma885: not sure.  Would be a hack job at best.  That pkg-config gets run by ./configure when you build audacity.
[03:49] <dethaddr> so what are the must get items for a brand new install?
[03:49] <soulnet-2> maaks
[03:50] <Enigma885> Biovore,  so it will look like ./configure  `pkg-config - cflags - libs libglade-2.0`?
[03:50] <soulnet-2> what your name
[03:50] <prappl93> I just installed Fluxbox, how do I get it to run?
[03:50] <Biovore> Enigma885: I think you need to edit the configure file.
[03:50] <lstarnes> Enigma885: --, not -
[03:50] <Balsaq> seidos: ahhh convert them...another subject very interesting...oh well the music comes thru beautiful on my altec lansing s just not the vids but ya know what...f*ck it! sometimes ya just gotta figure  yur on free software and thats what ya git
[03:50] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: For games, install the games you like.  For web browsing install the restricted-extras.  Install mplayer and or vlc.
[03:51] <soulnet-2> where you andrres
[03:51] <Enigma885> Biovore, sry but could u write the command as it should be written
[03:51] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: install the mplayer/vlc firefox plugins, flashplugin-installer and some form of java JRE.
[03:52] <Biovore> Enigma885: pkg-config - cflags - libs libglade-2.0   on the command line should print some text.
[03:52] <dethaddr> Cyrano_De: isnt there a sudo code that does em all?
[03:52] <Biovore> Enigma885: pkg-config -cflags -libs libglade-2.0
[03:52] <Biovore> I tihnk
[03:52] <Qtpaxa> anyone has Google Wave invite??
[03:52] <seidos> Balsaq: good point
[03:52] <lstarnes> Biovore, Enigma885: --, not -
[03:53] <Cyrano_De> dethaddr: alien arena, warsow and nexuiz are decent games.
[03:53] <Balsaq> seidos: hey you ever look at your error console..mine is always LOADED with errors...i just erase em?
[03:53] <dethaddr> Cyrano_De: im trying to install diablo 2
[03:53] <seidos> Balsaq: what error console?
[03:53] <Enigma885> Biovore,  ./configure --prefix=/usr `pkg-config --cflags --libs libglade-2.0`?