[12:00] <ruby_on_tails> hello, i downloaded a .ova file and trying to import it using virtualbox ose import appliance feature but it fails saying could not import appliance, can anyone help ?
[12:03] <hitsujiTMO> ruby_on_tails: i would suggest to also ask that question in #vbox
[12:03] <nomad_fr> is it possible to use early command in preseed ?
[12:03] <ruby_on_tails> hitsujiTMO: just did that
[12:03] <ActionPa1snip> ruby_on_tails: ask in #vbox too
[12:04] <tanja__> hi, apt worries about conflicts and it seems like it does not want to update versions which have been previously installed with a force to version by app-name=some-version
[12:05] <tanja__> where to check and reset these forced (old) versions?
[12:05] <Timon_> hitsujiTMO: A friend of mine gave me this screenshot.... He does not have internet connection when he uses Ubuntu. (He has net conn when using Win7. Dual Boot!) Any ideas??
[12:05] <Timon_> http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4787/du01.jpg
[12:05] <Timon_> hitsujiTMO: ^^
[12:05] <kippie> Has the RC for 13.10 been released yet
[12:07] <|Anthony|> I'm trying to make a modified sudoers file but it keeps failing. After i make the edits i check with visudo -cf and it passes syntax checks. I then move the file to /etc/sudoers.d/sudoers where sudo promptly breaks stating a parse error. The line it references keeps on moving down the list as i comment the previous offenses out.
[12:07] <|Anthony|> why would the file pass the visudo check, but fail when put into place?
[12:07] <kippie> and when is the release date for #saucy
[12:07] <hitsujiTMO> timon_ fist thing to do is to findout what network device he has (could be done with lspic or lsusb)
[12:07] <|Anthony|> ^lspci
[12:08] <hitsujiTMO> Timon_ yes lspci not lspic  :P
[12:08] <Timon_> OK hitsujiTMO I will try that on his PC....
[12:10] <fnoyanisi> hi folks. is there a counterpart of bsd's pkg_info command in ubuntu?
[12:11] <tanja__> is there a config or blocklist which tells apt which versions must not be overwritten?
[12:11] <gordonjcp> fnoyanisi: depends, what does pkg_info do?
[12:11] <fnoyanisi> gives information, about a file, or package
[12:11] <fnoyanisi> let me say, I'd like to learn the download size of kde suite?
[12:12] <repudiate> What's up #ubuntu?
[12:12] <dmaroulidis> repudiate: OK
[12:12] <Myrtti> fnoyanisi: well, I suppose the best way to find it would be to do a dryrun on apt-get
[12:13] <gordonjcp> fnoyanisi: dpkg -l or dpkg -L maybe?
[12:13] <hitsujiTMO> fnoyanisi apt-cache show packagename     gives info about a package in repository
[12:14] <Myrtti> gordonjcp, hitsujiTMO: that would show only the status of a single package, not the dependencies...
[12:14] <Mephos> Is this the right channel to ask for hardware recommendations?
[12:15] <gordonjcp> Myrtti: true
[12:15] <|Anthony|> anyone here familiar with /etc/sudoers.d
[12:15] <dmaroulidis> yes
[12:15] <hitsujiTMO> myrtti: apt-cache shows dependencies for me
[12:15] <Myrtti> hitsujiTMO: also the download size of them?
[12:15] <Myrtti> (that's what was effectively asked)
[12:15] <|Anthony|> dmaroulidis, i posted an issue above. would you like me to repost it?
[12:15] <hitsujiTMO> myrtti: yes the size too
[12:16] <dmaroulidis> |Anthony|: yes
[12:16] <|Anthony|> I'm trying to make a modified sudoers file but it keeps failing. After i make the edits i check with visudo -cf and it passes syntax checks. I then move the file to /etc/sudoers.d/sudoers where sudo promptly breaks stating a parse error. The line it references keeps on moving down the list as i comment the previous offenses out. why would the file pass the visudo check, but fail when put into place?
[12:17] <hitsujiTMO> myrtti: yes the size too, altho not size of dependancies
[12:17] <|Anthony|> dmaroulidis, would you like to see a pastebin?
[12:17] <Myrtti> to be honest apt-get -s doesn't show the download sizes either
[12:17] <dmaroulidis> anthony, yes
[12:17] <gens_> hi, i'm getting a bunch of errors when trying to compile a simple file http://pastie.org/8403644 can anyone help please?
[12:17] <fnoyanisi> |Anthony| : maybe you have an extra empty line at the end of the file!
[12:18] <hitsujiTMO> Myrtti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6240289/   example output of: apt-cache show apache2
[12:18] <|Anthony|> http://pastebin.com/2pumMER8
[12:18] <Nothing_Much> My indicator applets aren't working
[12:18] <Nothing_Much> How do I get them back?
[12:18] <dmaroulidis> fnoyanisi: I didn't know that this was a problem.
[12:18] <|Anthony|> fnoyanisi, indeed i do
[12:19] <|Anthony|> would that actually cause this issue?
[12:19] <|Anthony|> so odd
[12:19] <Nothing_Much> Why aren't my indicator applets working? They won't appear at all!
[12:20] <Nothing_Much> Hello?
[12:20] <fnoyanisi> |Anthony| : just try to delete the last line
[12:20] <fnoyanisi> by dd
[12:20] <dmaroulidis> Anthony, In which line is the problem
[12:20] <fnoyanisi> and save the file
[12:20] <fnoyanisi> ESC + :w
[12:20] <n008> is there anyway I can setup an ip based proxy easily?
[12:20] <Nothing_Much> Why aren't my indicator applets working? They won't appear at all!
[12:21] <n008> my host's ip address is whitelisted for a destination ip address
[12:21] <n008> but everyother computer on the internet is blacklisted
[12:21] <adamk> Nothing_Much: We've heard you, each time. If no one who is currently around knows the answer, no one is going to answer.
[12:21] <dmaroulidis> fnoyanisi why would someone delete the last line from the file.
[12:21] <n008> I want to be able to access the destinatination address from my computer
[12:21] <adamk> Nothing_Much: Instead of asking the same question over and over, you could try rephrasing it and giving more details.
[12:21] <bruno_al> test
[12:22] <Nothing_Much> adamk, I'm sorry about that, but I don't know what else to say, they just won't appear at all at any time. I'm on 13.10 though.
[12:22] <hitsujiTMO> gens_: what is the output of: uname -a
[12:23] <brandonj> I'm looking for some clarification on anacron's default behavior.  On a standard install of 12.04, if I add an entry to the user's crontab with '@weekly' will it be run by anacron or the regular cron daemon only?
[12:24] <gens_> Linux Linux 3.8.0-31-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Sep 10 19:56:49 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:24] <gens_> hitsujiTMO: ^
[12:26] <|Anthony|> dmaroulidis, line 12 is an issue
[12:26] <|Anthony|> if i comment that out the line 17
[12:26] <|Anthony|> then*
[12:27] <Jayflux> didn't ruby used to be in the default install of Ubuntu?
[12:27] <|Anthony|> i did remove the trailing newline, but the issue persists fnoyanisi
[12:30] <Timon_> OK this is the fourth time that I have tried to install Ubuntu from a Live USB. I don't know why this is not working..... I plug it in. Start the PC and select Removable disk from  the Boot Device Priority page and save changes and exit. The PC restarts but boots into Win 8 directly.... http://i.imgur.com/1UJtnwZ.png
[12:30] <ludiel> solo prova
[12:31] <|Anthony|> Timon_, was the usb created correctly?
[12:31] <bekks> Timon_: Sounds like UEFI secure boot, which does not allow you to boot something else. Disable it in the BIOS, try again.
[12:32] <hitsujiTMO> timon_: make sure secure boot and fast boot is disabled ... also legacy usb may need to be enabled
[12:32] <Timon_> |Anthony|: yes the device was created correctly. bekks I have done this before using the Live USB but I dunno why this work now. hitsujiTMO I will try to find UEFI and fast boot and disable it...
[12:33] <Timon_> OK bye...
[12:42] <dveim> hello
[12:42] <C0mm4nd3r> hy
[12:42] <C0mm4nd3r> h
[12:43] <C0mm4nd3r> hi
[12:43] <dveim> i have to generate xml with some random values in tags
[12:43] <dveim> using _only_ shell tools
[12:43] <dveim> no python perl
[12:43] <dveim> any tips? =)
[12:43] <bekks> dveim: bash.
[12:43] <C0mm4nd3r> can anyone help me ?
[12:44] <C0mm4nd3r> i have a problem
[12:44] <dveim> bekks: didn't work with it
[12:44] <Jayflux> didn't ruby used to be in the default install of Ubuntu?
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> dveim: i would suggest asking for help in #bash
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> !ask | C0mm4nd3r
[12:44] <dveim> -hitsujiTMO: indeed, thanks
[12:44] <C0mm4nd3r> ook
[12:46] <Guest5362> Hello everyone, I created a text file containing many web addresses. is there a way to turn them into links? I would like to double click on them and automatically new tab in firefox. use Geany
[12:49] <Timon__> HI
[12:49] <C0mm4nd3r> hello guys , how can i re-install firefox ?
[12:49] <ufoczek> apt-get remove --purge, apt-get install :)
[12:49] <Timon__> Does anyone have an alternate for InfraRecorder. It has nothing for Win8 http://infrarecorder.org/?page_id=5
[12:50] <hitsujiTMO> C0mm4nd3r: sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox
[12:50] <C0mm4nd3r> thanks everyone
[12:52] <geirha> Guest5362: If geany has that ability, #geany probably knows.
[12:53] <Timon__> Does anyone have an alternate for InfraRecorder? It has nothing for Win8 http://infrarecorder.org/?page_id=5
[12:53] <Guest5362> geirha:  tanks you
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> Timon__  i'm sure the people in ##windows can help you better
[12:56] <C0mm4nd3r> firefox is not reinstalling ;)
[12:57] <C0mm4nd3r> sigh sigh
[12:58] <superkuh> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/packages.medibuntu.org/ ...
[12:58] <superkuh> Failed to fetch http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/lucid/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'packages.medibuntu.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> superkuh  here's why: http://www.medibuntu.org/
[13:00] <superkuh> "The Medibuntu Project has come to an end" :(
[13:00] <geirha> C0mm4nd3r: Perhaps you really just want to reset your firefox config
[13:00] <bekks> superkuh: medibutu is officially shut down.
[13:00] <superkuh> So...
[13:00] <geirha> reinstalling firefox has no effect unless you've manually modified some of its files under /usr or similar
[13:00] <C0mm4nd3r> ok thanks
[13:00] <superkuh> Can anyone direct me to similar repositories? With lucid support?
[13:01] <bekks> superkuh: There is no lucid desktop support anymore, since April 2013.
[13:01] <superkuh> Right.
[13:02] <grit96> ?
[13:04] <C0mm4nd3r> and if i install tor from "terminale" ? (excuse me but i'm in italian guy)
[13:05] <C0mm4nd3r> *but i'm italian guy
[13:06] <gens_> hi, i'm getting a bunch of errors when trying to compile a simple file http://pastie.org/8403644 can anyone help please?
[13:11] <Timon__> At least can someone tell me how to burn a Ubuntu 13.04 64bit DVD?
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> Timon__  in windows or in ubuntu?
[13:11] <Timon__> In windows
[13:11] <Timon__> MonkeyDust: ^
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> Timon__  i'm sure the people in ##windows can help you better
[13:12] <MrQuist> lol
[13:12] <MrQuist> i guess #welcome-to-computers would fit better
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> Timon__  you're not in the right channel
[13:12] <Timon__> I have asked.... And they are yet to answer it.
[13:12] <MrQuist> Timon__, download imgburn and burn the image
[13:12] <MrQuist> you can select the drive and the ISO file, then you should be able to boot from it
[13:13] <geirha> gens_: Odd, works here.
[13:13] <gens_> geirha: i think my ubuntu install is broken, but i don't know how to fix it
[13:13] <gens_> or at least the packages for g++ and such
[13:14] <MrQuist> gens_, have you tried another compiler?
[13:15] <MrQuist> or just reinstalling G++
[13:15] <geirha> gens_: I'd try reinstalling g++-4.7 and libstdc++6-4.7-dev
[13:17] <gens_> MrQuist: geirha: same problem after reinstalling these two packages (and i'm getting similar issues with clang++à)
[13:17] <MrQuist> hmm
[13:18] <MrQuist> i'm afraid this exceeds my knowledge gens_
[13:18] <geirha> gens_: Would help to know how it got broken :)
[13:18] <Achilles`> Has anyone programmed instrumentation with Pin? How do you make these errors go away for all of PIN function calls/data types? I've put all the header files in /usr/local/lib and it can find "pin.H" but I still get errors for the function calls/data types specific to Pin.
[13:19] <gens_> geirha: i don't remember exactly what i did, but i was trying to compile llvm and clang from source, and then uninstalled some old llvm packages, and i also tried to install to libstdc++6-4.7-dev manually but it was already installed
[13:19] <Pici> Achilles`: Are you sure you're asking in the right channel? This is #ubuntu
[13:20] <Achilles`> @Pici : Sure, but there's no channel specifically for Pin, so I thought I'd try my luck here.
[13:21] <frog_> hi
[13:25] <camel_> help
[13:26] <benzrf> helloworld:
[13:26] <benzrf> *hello
[13:26] <helloworld> hello
[13:27] <m2kk> helloworld, hello
[13:27] <benzrf> my friend is using an asus laptop, and his wifi does not work
[13:27] <benzrf> rfkill list lists his internal wifi as being hardblocked
[13:27] <benzrf> but his external dongle doesn't seem to work either
[13:27] <benzrf> even though it is not blocked
[13:27] <m2kk> benzrf, what kind of asus laptop
[13:28] <benzrf> m2kk: w75a
[13:28] <gens_> regarding my http://pastie.org/8403644 problem, i moved the file /usr/include/c++/4.7/bits/c++config.h to c++config.h.back, and it solved the problem, is this hack ok, or should i do something else?
[13:29] <m2kk> benzrf, sorry cant find any info on that laptop
[13:29] <m2kk> benzrf, could you find it and link it here?
[13:29] <benzrf> *x75a, sorry
[13:30] <benzrf> my bad
[13:31] <camel_> I random my windows 7 secret
[13:31] <camel_> how can i log on
[13:31] <bekks> camel_: Ask ##windows
[13:36] <benzrf> m2kk: anything?
[13:37] <m2kk> benzrf, did you check this? http://blog.qpg.us/2013/09/09/asus-x75a-wifi-hardware-disabled-solved-2/
[13:38] <benzrf> awesome
[13:38] <benzrf> thank you :D
[13:40] <m2kk> benzrf, you are welcome!
[13:45] <Jinxters> Hi there guys
[13:46] <Jinxters> sorry about that
[13:48] <Jinxters> I would like to start installing Ubuntu on my old PC and later on an IRC server
[13:51] <TiagoTT> hello, I am having trouble with Vagrant and LXC after recent upgrade on 13.04
[13:52] <TiagoTT> the guests network DHCP is not working well
[13:52] <TiagoTT> anyone else with the same problem?
[14:00] <shyaam_>  hi i tried compiling libmirage on my system but it returned error saying dh_install: libmirage9 missing files (usr/lib/*/lib*.so.*), aborting make: *** [binary] Error 255
[14:02] <m2kk> Jinxters, yes? whats your question?
[14:02] <helmut_> hi
[14:03] <lashi> hi, does anyone know where I can get some help on nautilus?
[14:03] <shyaam_> hi
[14:03] <lashi> is there a nautilus expert here? or is there a chan for it?
[14:04] <Dai_1987> lashi: just ask your question and see what happens
[14:05] <lashi> ok, here goes. So, I'm running nautilus version 3.4.2 and when I try and cut a file and then subsequently paste, if the destination drive is a mounted disk, it doesn't let me. I certainly have the right permissions because I can just drag and drop and it copies and I can manually delete. But this is suboptimal.
[14:05] <shyaam_> what do you want to know about nautilus
[14:06] <lashi> I just wonder whether there is some option to disable the cut and paste when it's a mounted disk? This certainly wasn't the case on older Ubuntu, I believe when I ran 10.10. I'm currently running 12.04
[14:07] <shyaam_> did you run nautilus as admin to do this type "sudo nautilus" in cmd prompt and you will be cool
[14:08] <lashi> that's not a good option
[14:08] <lashi> I shouldn't have to run anything root - that's how you damage the system
[14:11] <hid> hi, do the /usr/share/fonts/ directory slow down ubuntu?
[14:13] <shyaam_> hi has anyone installed libmirage on ubuntu 12.04 help me
[14:16] <fhtagn> onavo. Are there alternatives? Was thinking something you could run on a server and have Android tunnel through there.
[14:16] <dani90> bye bye
[14:19] <shyaam_>  hi i tried compiling libmirage on my system but it returned error saying dh_install: libmirage9 missing files (usr/lib/*/lib*.so.*), aborting make: *** [binary] Error 255
[14:21] <LivTyler> Hello, I'm buying ssl signed certificates for my webserver, also I'm using freeradius and I wonder if I need to give information about this to my ssl CA authority so I can use pem crt or key, I'm not sure, could anyone give some light on this? it's first time I acquire this type of certificates
[14:21] <plof_> hello , when switching to tty , any sound played in Xorg stops working , is there a ways to make it globally  work on all ttys ?
[14:21] <hitsujiTMO> livtyler: how many certs and what class certs are you purchasing?
[14:22] <n008> this sounds stupid, can a child process stop and start a parent process?
[14:22] <Timon_> Why does my PC boot Win8 instead of the Ubuntu DVD or LiveUSB? I have chosen in "Boot Priority" CD>Removable USB>HDD. I have even disabled Quick Boot...
[14:22] <ido2> shyaam_: both directories exist? /usr/lib and /lib ?
[14:23] <shyaam_> yes
[14:23] <LivTyler> hitsujiTMO: I'm buying 3 at first instance, for my mail server for my web site and for my ldap server, they're asking me if I need another cert more, I'm wondering if I should configure something in my freeradius, give them information about this
[14:23] <hillary> programmes running on wine cannot start. it says file not found. If it starts i cannot stop them unless i restart my laptop ubuntu 12.04
[14:24] <ido2> maybe you can try the script at the bottom? http://askubuntu.com/questions/272729/accidently-deleted-usr-lib-how-do-i-restore-it
[14:25] <LivTyler> hitsujiTMO: sorry I don't know about class certs, please help me
[14:26] <nicky_> Hi. Please help me. While remastersys was setting user profiles I pushed the reset button on my computer because I couldn't close the apllication. Now I can't boot anymore. The boot-repair doesn't see the disk.
[14:26] <hillary> could it be the wine windows loader has a problem?
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> livtyler: from what i understand of radius you should not need anything special for your certs, i would get a test cert for a dummy domain/subdomain to test out ofcourse. I would recommend looking at startssl as they are free and widely supported for class 1 certs
[14:27] <Wiz_KeeD> Could someone please recommend a good temperature monitor? and other statistics for that matter if it can
[14:28] <Wiz_KeeD> I will get a new laptop and it supposingly gets a bit hot from time to time, it has the turbo boost capacity on the proccessor and that could be it
[14:28] <LivTyler> hitsujiTMO: If I would want something more official? mean CA signed certs, what info/files I should give them?
[14:29] <hitsujiTMO> startssl are a CA. you can generate a simple CSR bit basic info or you can let them generate the CSR for you
[14:30] <nicky_> okay. Can I save some folders from the USB drive which contains the OS that I won't have to spend another 2 days to install back my apps?
[14:30] <shyaam_>  hi i tried compiling libmirage on my system but it returned error saying dh_install: libmirage9 missing files (usr/lib/*/lib*.so.*), aborting make: *** [binary] Error 255
[14:33] <ido2> shyaam_: you have all the requirements, as stated here: http://cdemu.org/about/libmirage/    ?
[14:34] <Reacto> a friend of mine has an ubuntu server he wants me and a few other guys to be able to use and test stuff on, what's the easiest way for him to set up virtual machines on his server that we can use?
[14:34] <compdoc> Reacto, sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm virt-manager
[14:35] <compdoc> then reboot
[14:35] <Reacto> can you use virt-manager without gui=
[14:35] <Reacto> ?*
[14:36] <shyaam_> yes
[14:36] <Reacto> virt-install?
[14:36] <liquidmetal> anyone here heard of a job profile called "configuration management"?
[14:36] <compdoc> virt-manager is a gui, but you dont need it
[14:38] <kongthap> is it always safe to delete lost+found folder???
[14:39] <Reacto> compdoc, what do you need instead?
[14:40] <^_^_^_^_^_> http://pastebin.com/84jkWGnT <= this is my cat /proc/cpuinfo is the processor 32 or 64bit?
[14:41] <SonikkuAmerica> We really have a ^_^_^_^_^_ in the house :-)
[14:41] <geirha> ^_^_^_^_^_: what does ''uname -m'' say?
[14:41] <vicente_ragnar> main information about your OS
[14:41] <^_^_^_^_^_> i686
[14:41] <SonikkuAmerica> I've never heard of a 64-bit Pentium CPU.
[14:42] <SonikkuAmerica> ^_^_^_^_^_: 32-bit
[14:42] <^_^_^_^_^_> http://ark.intel.com/products/55627/Intel-Pentium-Processor-B950-2M-Cache-2_10-GHz Intel® 64 ‡
[14:42] <^_^_^_^_^_> 	Yes
[14:42] <^_^_^_^_^_> Is that because I'm running ubuntu 32 bit?
[14:42] <^_^_^_^_^_> That uname shows as i686
[14:43] <Pici> ^_^_^_^_^_: Your CPU has the lm flag in your cpuinfo, which means that it supports x86-64
[14:43] <Pici> ^_^_^_^_^_: so yes, it is a '64-bit processor'.
[14:43] <^_^_^_^_^_> thanks
[14:44] <^_^_^_^_^_> let me take a look at the pastebin
[14:44] <^_^_^_^_^_> so i know for the future
[14:44] <TiagoTT> hello, I am having trouble with Vagrant and LXC after recent upgrade on 13.04
[14:44] <TiagoTT> the guests network DHCP is not working well
[14:44] <TiagoTT> anyone else with the same problem?
[14:44] <^_^_^_^_^_> lm: Long Mode (x86-64: amd64, also known as Intel 64, i.e. 64-bit capable)
[14:44] <^_^_^_^_^_> gotcha thanks
[14:44] <bibi346> hi, I'm beginning with ubuntu / linux, I don't understand what does option 2 means here : http://pastie.org/8403960 , how is it possible? will it open multiple tcp sockets?
[14:45] <A1Recon> I am about to install Ubuntu 13.04. And I want to format the Win8 drive and install Ubuntu there. What do I choose?
[14:46] <A1Recon> OK Got it....
[14:46] <pac1> A1Recon, no going back...
[14:47] <SonikkuAmerica> ^_^_^_^_^_: If your uname -m had a 64 in it it would be a 64-bit processor
[14:48] <LivTyler> hitsujiTMO: when buying a cert class 1 what info I should give, I'm buying from verisign
[14:48] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: not necessarily, you can run 32bit OS on 64bit OS
[14:48] <^_^_^_^_^_> it has a lm flag
[14:48] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: so uname -m    does not tell you the CPU arch, only the kernel
[14:48] <^_^_^_^_^_> I think uname just specifies the os
[14:48] <^_^_^_^_^_> it says generic which is true im running 32 bit ubuntu
[14:49] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: you can run both 64bit and 32bit OS and 64bit OS on 64bit CPU, but obly 32bit OS on 32bit CPU
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> weird nick, i don't know how to make it: try this line sudo dmidecode -t processor|grep capable
[14:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Ubuntu Studio uses lowlatency
[14:49] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: thats not an architecture
[14:49] <SonikkuAmerica> No, it's a kernel
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> ^_^_^_^_^_  try this line: sudo dmidecode -t processor|grep capable
[14:49] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: yes but it doesnt tell you if its 32bit or 64bit
[14:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Back! Circular arguments! I'm done. :-)
[14:50] <SonikkuAmerica> *Ack!
[14:50] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: 'low latency' doesn't clarify 32bit or 64bitness
[14:51] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: its not circular at all
[14:51] <SonikkuAmerica> Right.
[14:51] <geirha> lshw -class cpu | grep width
[14:51] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: so why say "Back! Circular arguments! I'm done. :-)" when it's not circular?
[14:52] <SonikkuAmerica> More like square one.
[14:52] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot
[14:52] <ActionPa1snip> SonikkuAmerica: i'll just assume you dont know what you are talking about
[14:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Actually I think #Ubuntu-arguments is a better place :-)
[14:53] <hitsujiTMO> livtyler: its dependant on the vendor, this should give you an idea: https://knowledge.verisign.co.uk/support/ssl-certificates-support/index?page=content&actp=CROSSLINK&id=AR198
[14:57] <ansu> wasn't there a command to test apticron?
[14:58] <willejs> hi all I'm having an issue where interrupts are not spread evenly across all processor cores for my main networking device (eth0)
[14:58] <isasha> Hai
[14:59] <willejs> i think its related to SMP affinity, but the file /proc/irq/217/smp_affinity is set to 0-7 (all cores)
[14:59] <willejs> any ideas?
[14:59] <isasha> just wondering, where can I find this http://i.imgur.com/4NmZcNY.gif ?
[14:59] <isasha> Particularly the top status bar with all the widgets part
[15:04] <hitsujiTMO> isasha thats is xmonad i do believe
[15:04] <isasha> isn't that a window manager though?
[15:06] <hitsujiTMO> yes
[15:07] <Soru> Dudes
[15:07] <Soru> I deleted a directory
[15:08] <Soru> and it is not at the bin
[15:08] <Soru> and one more thing!
[15:09] <Soru> The HDD is still full
[15:09] <geirha> Soru: How did you delete it?
[15:09] <Soru> with the file explorer
[15:10] <Touhou11> Sometimes there is more than one recycle bin, depending on the source directory of the file
[15:10] <hitsujiTMO> isasha, to be speciific its xmonads a dzen bar, ( and dzen applets ) and tint2 panel
[15:10] <geirha> Soru: Then some process has one or more of the files in that directory still open
[15:10] <Touhou11> You can use "baobab" to see where large files reside
[15:10] <isasha> I shall check that out, tanks hitsujiTMO
[15:11] <Soru> Thanks Touhou11 (nice game) and geirha ;)
[15:14] <^_^_^_^_^_>    width: 64 bits
[15:16] <ayu__> hello
[15:16] <jmgk> hi ayu__
[15:21] <Marlenee> how can i change timezone in date tool from UTC to GMT with 24 format
[15:23] <jmgk> hi
[15:27] <shyaam_> i need help on how to install libmirage on 12.04. i tried compiling lreturned error saying dh_install: libmirage9 missing files (usr/lib/*/lib*.so.*), aborting make: *** [binary] Error 255
[15:29] <bjensen82> Hi guys. Im setting up my hardware raid to use with ubuntu 12.04 lts. There is an option about sectors/track. I can choose between 63 and 32. The help msg describes it as: "The number of sectors per track presented to the operating system as part of the legacy geometry (CHS) information". Help please?
[15:30] <SonikkuAmerica> bjensen82: 64 and 32 you mean?
[15:30] <bjensen82> SonikkuAmerica: nope, 31 and 63 i mean
[15:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Hmmm... I dunno much about raid... But...
[15:31] <SonikkuAmerica> !raid
[15:32] <bjensen82> those seam to be on the subject of software raid..
[15:33] <os2finn> hi all
[15:33] <ajd> I have preinstalled windows 8 laptop, can anyone recommend a working document that explains how to install ubuntu 13.10 as dual boot?`
[15:33] <os2finn> What is best way to get decent Wine on 12.04 64bit?
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> os2finn  sudo apt-get install wine
[15:34] <os2finn> I have tried 1.5 1.6 and 1.7 from repository but all give me err:seh
[15:34] <os2finn> On my other laptop with 32-bit 12.04 and wine 1.3.28 my apps work
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> !info wine
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> os2finn  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue
[15:35] <os2finn> MonkeyDust this is a problem with Ubuntu 12.04 wines
[15:35] <os2finn> 64bit
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> !info wine lucid
[15:36] <os2finn> I tried compiling wine from sources but 32-bit compiling stopped because schroot did not work(there was a permissions error)
[15:37] <os2finn> and that seems also a problem with 12.04 64bit
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> os2finn  what's wrong with the version in the repos?
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> os2finn  tip: there's also #winehq
[15:38] <os2finn> MonkeyDust there is a bug report on WineHQ that states that 12.04 64bit wines are broken
[15:38] <os2finn> I get error err:seh running code outside stack with my apps
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> os2finn  yeah, guess you better ask in #winehq then
[15:41] <JohnSmith> Hi there
[15:42] <MangaKaDenza> JohnSmith, is that a haruhi reference ?
[15:44] <Tenem> Cannot access my HDD http://paste.ubuntu.com/6241042/
[15:44] <Tenem> Please help!
[15:46] <jgcampbell300> hey hey
[15:46] <Tenem> Anyone here??
[15:46] <MangaKaDenza> Tenem, have you tried mounting it?
[15:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Tenem: Are you familiar with burnt offerings? :-) Does Windows start when you boot it from GRUB?
[15:46] <Tenem> MangaKaDenza: It won't even mount...
[15:47] <MangaKaDenza> does it.. you know
[15:47] <MangaKaDenza> actually work?
[15:47] <Tenem> SonikkuAmerica: I had Windows a few minutes ago. I instaled Ubuntu and removed Windows
[15:47] <jgcampbell300> I need assistance finding information and terminology of what im looking for. I am looking for something like virtual box that dosnt run on host os .. example I want ot turn my computer on and it ask me what image i want to start . then start it. at the same time i would like to be able to pause or start another image at same time
[15:47] <SonikkuAmerica> Tenem: Boot from a Live image and run GParted.
[15:48] <Tenem> SonikkuAmerica: and then what??
[15:48] <jgcampbell300> can anyone point me to a source of information on this type of virtualization
[15:48] <SonikkuAmerica> Tenem: Check for a partition containing an NTFS file system.
[15:49] <Tenem> Can I install Windows again(remove Ubuntu in the process)?
[15:49] <Tenem> SonikkuAmerica: ^^
[15:50] <JohnSmith> I have hundred millions of file stored in a 2 level folder, in this form AA/BB/832497BBAA.ext. Nowadays it's more or less impossible to scan this arborescence with utils like du or rsync. The filesystem is ext4, mounted with noatime. Does anyone has good practices regarding storing millions of files, like using different filesystem or maybe distributed FS?
[15:50] <SonikkuAmerica> jgcampbell300: So you want to run multiple OS's from one machine at one, but not through a hypervisor's metadata... Like mounting a raw disk image in VBox?
[15:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Tenem: If you have a Windows installation disc of some sort
[15:50] <Tenem> OK will do that...
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> JohnSmith  is that on a file server? if yes: try asking in #ubuntu-server
[15:52] <SonikkuAmerica> jgcampbell300: Can you be more specific?
[15:53] <JohnSmith> Yeah thank you
[15:53] <jgcampbell300> SonikkuAmerica, i think so ... i saw a tech with a notebook that when his computer started he had only 5 icons and if he clicked one windows would start he could then click anohter and linux would start etc ... he had all 5 running at one time and it didnt appear to have a host os like loading virtual box on ubuntu ... it was like the computer started with no os then loaded diffrent images
[15:53] <jgcampbell300> i just dont konw what someting like this would be called so im haveing a hard time finding a place to start reading and researching
[15:53] <Rory> jgcampbell300: Sounds like the word you want is "hypervisor"
[15:54] <SonikkuAmerica> jgcampbell300: VBox can act as a hypervisor for raw partitions.
[15:54] <bubbly193> does anyone know the irc channel for the api website?
[15:54] <SonikkuAmerica> ... As well as full VMs.
[15:54] <jgcampbell300> hypervisor ... cool ... that sounds like where ill start reading ... anyone else have any more info for me befor i go to reading
[15:54] <Rory> bubbly193: What is "the api website" ?
[15:54] <jgcampbell300> and thanks Rory and SonikkuAmerica
[15:55] <bubbly193> ubuntu api website
[15:55] <SonikkuAmerica> You're welcome
[15:55] <jgcampbell300> ok off to do some reading ... thanks again
[15:55] <MangaKaDenza> guise
[15:55] <MangaKaDenza> does anyone know some good free actionscript tools for ubuntu?
[15:55] <bubbly193> on ubuntu developer
[15:55] <bubbly193> http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/platform/api/
[15:56] <YokoBR> Hi guys, my dns isnt working after upsgrading to 12.04
[15:56] <Rory> bubbly193: I would suggest #ubuntu-devel
[15:56] <Pici> bubbly193: I'd start with #ubuntu-app-devel
[15:56] <Rory> bubbly193: Pici is probably more correct
[15:59] <ActionPa1snip> YokoBR: dns server or client?
[15:59] <pip__> is ubiquity in 13.10 still freezing?
[16:00] <SonikkuAmerica> !crosspost | pip__
[16:01] <SonikkuAmerica> Also, that's a question for #ubuntu+1
[16:01] <pip__> duh -yes it is my bad, also sorry for crosspost - I only tried it in Lubuntu
[16:11] <Peldan> Okay, I installed ubuntu to my new laptop yesterday and I want to optirun (I have a GT 650M GPU) dota 2. I don't know how to do it though.
[16:11] <Peldan> "optirun steam" etc works fine
[16:11] <Peldan> but "optirun dota_linux" doesn't work
[16:11] <Peldan> help a noob
[16:13] <PeterCassetta> Hey, Peldan, have you installed bumblebee?
[16:13] <Peldan> Yeah, otherwise optirun wouldn't work with steam right?
[16:14] <PeterCassetta> Yeah.
[16:14] <PeterCassetta> I have bumblebee on my laptop.
[16:14] <Peldan> Okay, but you can't explain why "optirun dota_linux" doesn't work?
[16:14] <MangaKaDenza> hurk
[16:14] <Peldan> :/
[16:15] <MangaKaDenza> anyone got any ideas for ActionScript/Flash IDE's for ubuntu?
[16:15] <MangaKaDenza> that are free?
[16:15] <SonikkuAmerica> MangaKaDenza: Does NetBeans do that?
[16:15] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: What is dota_linux?
[16:15] <PeterCassetta> A Steam game?
[16:15] <Peldan> Yeah
[16:15] <Peldan> Dota 2
[16:15] <Peldan> in steam
[16:16] <PeterCassetta> So it runs fine if you just run "dota_linux", I assume?
[16:16] <Peldan> It says "file not found"
[16:16] <Peldan> or
[16:17] <Peldan> /usr/bin/vglrun: 303: exec: dota_linux: not found
[16:17] <SonikkuAmerica> DotA is Defense of the Ancirns
[16:17] <SonikkuAmerica> *Ancients
[16:17] <jgcampbell300> SonikkuAmerica, hi again ... do you have any suggestion on what flavor of hipervisor to start with ... i was looking at KVM after reading a few Wiki pages
[16:17] <Peldan> Since optirun firefox and optirun steam works
[16:17] <ActionPa1snip> jgcampbell300: virtualbox is nice and easy
[16:17] <Peldan> I suppose it just doesn't know where to look for the file?
[16:17] <compdoc> jgcampbell300, I like kvm. you having a problem with what youre reading?
[16:17] <SonikkuAmerica> jgcampbell300: Why not VMware or VirtualBox?
[16:18] <bjensen82> when following the guided setup of partitions, it wants to make a swap and a main partition. I thought it was preferred if you had a /var mount point as well..In case eg. logging goes berserk and doesnt bring down the whole system...have things changed since I checked this out a few years ago?
[16:18] <isasha> Quick question: if I create symlinks in a certain directory to various other ones (/media/ and /home/user/ in particular), will I be able to access the entirety of the folders I have linked to over NFS?
[16:18] <jgcampbell300> compdoc, not really ... theres just so many options and i get indeciceve lol ... gota start some where .... as for VMware and VirtualBox im pretty sure those are type 2  and i am looking for type 1 ... or if they could make up there mind type 0
[16:18] <PeterCassetta> Peldan, I would imagine it's something to do with how optirun works. (I seem to remember it running a command as a another user, but I'm not positive about that.)
[16:19] <Peldan> But it SHOULD work?
[16:19] <isasha> I must note that with the permissions I have right now accessing all the files over SMB isn't an issue, it's just too slow
[16:19] <Peldan> How does the command optirun work anyways, does it search my whole computer for the file I am referring to or what? PeterCassetta
[16:19] <compdoc> jgcampbell300, it really depends on your requirments. kvm is better as a server, where virtualbox is better at graphics
[16:19] <jgcampbell300> I am sure i dont have a full understanding of it yet so i guess i just need to pick one or two and start building to see some results ... or maybe find a you tube videos
[16:20] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: It looks for the file "dota_linux" in your $PATH.
[16:20] <PeterCassetta> Which can be different for different users.
[16:21] <jgcampbell300> compdoc, well i have 4 2950's in my dev lab i have access to ... one of them i want to replace my desktop with and have plenty of guest os's ... the other 3 will be loaded with server based stuff
[16:21] <YokoBR> Guys, please, my dns service is not working
[16:21] <Beast-> have you tried turning it off and on again?
[16:21] <Rory> How do I cd into a directory that starts with a "-" character? I even tried escaping with a \ but I still get invalid argument, how do I escape it?
[16:21] <compdoc> jgcampbell300, unless theyve changed it, virtualbox doesnt load VMs automatically at boot.
[16:21] <designbybeck_> I have a brand new HP 2000 laptop AMD 4GB RAM with Windows 8, I went and disabled Secure boot, andchangeed the boot order. 1304 64bit does start booting and then the whole system shuts down
[16:21] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: Run "echo $PATH"; it'll output the value of your $PATH variable to the terminal.
[16:21] <Peldan> Thing is, I installed both firefox and steam etc at the same time, and they both work. Then I installed dota_linux and it doesn't work with optirun so the most logical thing I can think of is that it just can't find the file
[16:22] <designbybeck_> This laptop is going to Africa at the end of the week! I was hoping to have a dual booting system
[16:22] <Peldan> Thanks, PeterCassetta! Will try putting it there
[16:22] <compdoc> jgcampbell300, I think VB is more for personal use
[16:22] <designbybeck_> I didn't want to setup the Windows8 side, because I want the other person to do that
[16:22] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: Just adding "dota_linux" to your path wouldn't do anything.
[16:22] <jgcampbell300> ya ... I really want to stay away from type 2 ... i would like to save as much resources as i can for the accual immages insted of the host os
[16:23] <YokoBR> Im having some sort of a problem with resolv.conf
[16:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Rory: use double quotes and no \'s
[16:23] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: If you can find the folders in your $PATH, you should be able to locate the "dota_linux" file.
[16:23] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: I mean placing for an example dota_linux into usr/games/
[16:23] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: all right, calm down...
[16:23] <designbybeck_> ;)
[16:24] <YokoBR> :(
[16:24] <designbybeck_> I had another guy with almost the same HP2000 laptop, but he didn't want to keep windows so we didn't worry about this. I don't know if this is a hardware issue or not SonikkuAmerica
[16:24] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: What do you mean, first off, by changing the boot order?
[16:24] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica: so that it booted from the USB and not the main harddrive
[16:25] <YokoBR> Guys, ive upgraded from 10.04 server to 12.04, everything looks fine but dns
[16:25] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: The main thing that you need to do is find the absolute path of the "dota_linux" file, so you can then try running something like "optirun /full/path/to/dota_linux".
[16:25] <Beast-> designbybeck, that can be arainged in the bios, afaik
[16:25] <PeterCassetta> So Peldan, you basically need to find the dota_linux file on your hard drive.
[16:25] <jgcampbell300> I do have access to 15 slightly older servers .... I guess i could look more twards building some form of cloud system for the servers
[16:25] <designbybeck_> yes Beast- I did do that and I did boot, but the whole computer shuts down while trying to boot Uubntu
[16:25] <designbybeck_> i can see the Ubuntu boot screen
[16:26] <ses1984> hi, i just installed ubuntu 12.04 desktop and i was going to download and install oracle virtualbox. so i go to the site, and it says the site has an invalid security certificate
[16:26] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: I did, and it gave me this now "/usr/local/games/dota_linux: error while loading shared libraries: libtcmalloc_minimal.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:26] <Peldan> "
[16:26] <Beast-> designbybeck_, sorry, just joined the channel
[16:26] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: You don't do that with UEFI... Do this instead: Change the BIOS boot order back, let it boot into Windows, choose the power menu and hold SHIFT and click Resta4t...
[16:26] <SonikkuAmerica> *Restart
[16:26] <ses1984> i think this would be pretty unusual for a big company like oracle to have an invalid cert. the details of the cert say it's issued by verisign and expires in 2014...so it should be valid right?
[16:26] <shyaam_> i need help compiling libmirage
[16:27] <ses1984> firefox says that the error is "sec_error_unknown_issuer" so does my ubuntu install not trust any certs from verisign?
[16:27] <ses1984> http://i.imgur.com/kHw8QZn.png this is what i see
[16:27] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  I was tryingto avoid setting up the Win8 stuff, this is a brand new system and it has never booted Windows
[16:28] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: You should get a menu that has like 6 options in it; select Choose a device, and select you Live media.
[16:28] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  you lost me on that one
[16:28] <designbybeck_> I'm burning a DVD right now to try that route instead of the USB
[16:28] <YokoBR> Plse guys :(
[16:28] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: OK... Go change the boot order back to what it was originally.
[16:29] <designbybeck_> ok
[16:29] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: Just to be clear, running only "dota_linux" works fine, right?
[16:29] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Then, boot into Windows, but don't log on.
[16:29] <YokoBR> Omg
[16:29] <Silverrod> #india
[16:30] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: No, it seems to be something else wrong now. Only putting "dota_linux" gives me the same error
[16:30] <YokoBR> Guys pls
[16:30] <SonikkuAmerica> !patience | YokoBR:
[16:30] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica: I never even went past the HP/Welcome to your new computer using Windows 8 EULA.... but I just go ahead and go into all that?
[16:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Go ahead and follow the initial setup.
[16:31] <ses1984> is there a reason why my fresh vanilla 12.04 install doesn't trust the ssl certificate for virtualbox.org from verisign?
[16:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Then when the Start screen appears, bring up the charms menu and click Settings.
[16:31] <vivid> ses1984, on the web? or their package repository
[16:31] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: ^
[16:31] <ses1984> web
[16:31] <YokoBR> Plseee, my dns isnt working
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> ses1984: either your time is off, or their cert may have experired
[16:31] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: It is however still possible to just run it from the Steam client
[16:32] <ses1984> i'm trying to visit www.virtualbox.org in firefox and it's complaining about sec_error_unknown_issuer
[16:32] <Beast-> YokoBR, patience. What exactly isnt working
[16:32] <ses1984> my time seems correct in the OS but i don't know if ssl verification is done with system time that might be wrong?
[16:32] <ses1984> i mean the time looks correct to me in the gui
[16:32] <ses1984> the cert expires in 371 days
[16:33] <YokoBR> Beast-, the dns service. Ive upgraded to 12.04, and done dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf
[16:33] <YokoBR> But still isnt working
[16:33] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: Is there a launcher for Dota 2 in your dash?
[16:33] <nightdrever> in update manager there is an update for webcam studio but i cant select it?
[16:33] <ses1984> the command "date" has this output, so it looks like my time is correct, right?: Tue Oct 15 12:33:28 EDT 2013
[16:34] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: No
[16:34] <PeterCassetta> Only for Steam?
[16:34] <hitsujiTMO> sis1984: i'm getting the same error on firefox only; i think their server is misconfigured
[16:34] <designbybeck_> @(#*$*(@ I HATE WINDOWS! I don't want to connect to the internet! They don't have Internet where this laptop is going anway!
[16:34] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: Yeah
[16:34] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: So once you see the Start screen, open the Charms menu and click Settings.
[16:34] <designbybeck_> *deep breath*
[16:35] <designbybeck_> I don't know how to pass this setup SonikkuAmerica
[16:35] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: What does it say?
[16:35] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: What happens if you run "optirun steam", then start the game from within Steam?
[16:36] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  it is on the first startup setup, asking me to connect to Wireless and it shows wireless connections
[16:36] <designbybeck_> there is no skip or next on this page, only Connect
[16:36] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: There should be a link that says I don't want to connect now or I want to connect later
[16:37] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  I'm not seeing it
[16:37] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: Damn.. It doesn't launch
[16:37] <Peldan> or well first try it launched and showed the intro logo, but then just closed
[16:37] <Peldan> now it doesn't launch
[16:37] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: Well, I did some Googling, and found this: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6316-GJKC-7437
[16:37] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Hmmm... you don't know any of the networks around?
[16:37] <PeterCassetta> Looks to be what you need.
[16:38] <PeterCassetta> Peldan, also http://askubuntu.com/questions/256431/play-steam-games-with-nvidia-optimus-laptop
[16:38] <designbybeck_> I do but I don't want to connect! why do I have to let Micro$oft check in on this laptop while I'm trying to install Ubuntu
[16:38] <TauNeutrino> hey gays
[16:38] <Peldan> "Valve recommends using primusrun for running Steam games on the NVIDIA GPU."
[16:38] <YokoBR> Omg.... Please, my dns is not working
[16:39] <frew> hey guys, for some reason certain dkms modules don't reinstall when I update my kernel but others (such as nvidia) do, odes anyone know an easy way to fix this or what I may have done wrong for it not to work?
[16:39] <MangaKaDenza> yokel, have you tried rebooting?
[16:39] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=60805
[16:39] <frew> (the modules are spl-dkms and zfs-dkms)
[16:39] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: It seems to tie into Bumblebee; worth a try.
[16:39]  * TauNeutrino hands out some cookies
[16:39] <Peldan> Yeah, trying it now PeterCassetta
[16:39] <Peldan> thanks!
[16:39] <TauNeutrino> :)
[16:40] <aFeijo> folks, I downloaded a .mp4 file but it play without audio?
[16:40] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Click <Connect to a wireless network later>
[16:40] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: No problem; let me know how it goes!
[16:40] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Down near the bottom
[16:40] <TauNeutrino> hey, may I troll?? :)
[16:41] <SonikkuAmerica> TauNeutrino: lol
[16:41] <YokoBR> Please guys, my dns is not working
[16:41] <TauNeutrino> ^^
[16:41] <hitsujiTMO> !details | yokobr
[16:41] <TauNeutrino> dns not working? don't fuck around
[16:41] <andryyy387> any further ideas for ssd except for discard and no atimes?
[16:41] <Pici> TauNeutrino: Knock it off.
[16:41] <TauNeutrino> oh that was dna sry
[16:42] <andryyy387> (ext4)
[16:42] <YokoBR> Ive already said, but again
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> !details | YokoBR
[16:42] <ansu> I just create a public/private keypair with ssh-keygen -t rsa -f <myusername> and appended the public key part on my root servers authorized_keys file. but for some reason the ssh client on my local machine (macbook air) does only look for a file named id_rsa
[16:42] <YokoBR> Ive upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04
[16:42] <fishcooker> im using this intel pro wireless 4965 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6241292/ ..  i want to make this as AP but this information that i get https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_wireless_drivers#Driver_capabilities.. my driver that i use 'iwlagn' doesn't support the AP mode. is my hardware can be used as AP?
[16:42] <YokoBR> There was a problem with resolv.conf symlink
[16:43] <Peldan> PeterCassetta: Dota2 launched successfully using "primusrun %command% in launch options.
[16:43] <Peldan> Thank you very much
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  keep it one line please, it's easier to read and repeat, in case you have to wait a long time
[16:43] <YokoBR> On askubuntu they said to run dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf
[16:43] <SonikkuAmerica> YokoBR: Was your resolv.conf backed up somewhere?
[16:43] <YokoBR> Yep
[16:44] <andryyy387> did 10.04 already use dnsmasqß
[16:44] <andryyy387> ?
[16:44] <hitsujiTMO> SonikkuAmerica: resolv.conf is rebuilt on every boot
[16:44] <YokoBR> Im on a smartphone, its hard to type
[16:44] <compdoc> andryyy387, thats all I use in fstab:    UUID=blah-blah-blah /Vertex2  ext4  discard,noatime,errors=remount-ro  0  2
[16:44] <andryyy387> thanks, i put nodiratime, too ... but i think noatime fits diratimes as well
[16:44] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  it is going through the last statges of seting up win8
[16:45] <hitsujiTMO> yokobr: what is the output of: ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[16:45] <venkatn> 3
[16:45] <designbybeck_> and making me ill in the process! ;)
[16:45] <PeterCassetta> Peldan: You're welcome! Glad I could help. :)
[16:45] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: OK, when the Start screen appears, bring up the Charms menu and click or touch Settings.
[16:46] <YokoBR>  /etc/resolv.conf
[16:46] <hitsujiTMO> YokoBR: please pase the exact result
[16:46] <hitsujiTMO> paste*
[16:46] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica: uh oh... this just turned off! when it said getting your computer ready! Like maybe the issue is hardware issues!
[16:47] <YokoBR> -rwxrwxrwx root root 294 out 15 13:38 /etc/resolv.conf
[16:47] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: It turned off...? Was it plugged in?
[16:48] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  no still plugged in didn't touch it just heard it shut down harshly and went black
[16:48] <designbybeck_> I did just booted back up SonikkuAmerica and at the login i guess this page is
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  paste this line in a terminal       sudo apt-get install pastebinit;cat /etc/resolv.conf|pastebinit        then paste the url here
[16:48] <PeterCassetta> Does anyone know where I can ask about getting certain universe packages updated?
[16:49] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: You might want to ask in ##hardware about that abrupt shutdown...
[16:49] <compdoc> PeterCassetta, maybe the dev channel or mailing list
[16:49] <andryyy387> YokoBR dies does this file contain dns=dnsmasq? > /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> yokobr: what is the output of: ln -s /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[16:49] <andryyy387> 10.04 didnt use dnsmasq
[16:49] <PeterCassetta> compdoc: Do you know the dev channel offhand?
[16:49] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  what are the next steps
[16:49] <genii> YokoBR: /etc/resolv.conf is supposed to be a link to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf   ... if you issue only: mount | grep run    ..does it show a line like: tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,size=10%,mode=0755)   ?
[16:50] <designbybeck_> How do I open the Charms menu?, DO I need to have my DVD or USB plugged in?
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> yokobr: what is the output of: ls -s /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf     sorry
[16:50] <hitsujiTMO> yokobr: what is the output of: ls -l /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf     sorry grr
[16:50] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  I just tested the USB and it booted fine on an older Dell XPS Laptop
[16:50] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: You're at the logon screen, right? click or touch the power button in the lower right, then hold SHIFT and click Restart.
[16:50] <andryyy387> yay
[16:51] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Your older XPS probably doesn't have UEFI,
[16:51] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica: correct
[16:51] <designbybeck_> Do I need my USB plguged in SonikkuAmerica?
[16:51] <YokoBR> No such file for ls -l /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[16:51] <compdoc> PeterCassetta, migth try #ubuntu-devel
[16:51] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Yes sir,
[16:52] <andryyy387> anyone running gnome 3.10 on >=13.04 btw?
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  paste this line in a terminal       sudo apt-get install pastebinit;cat /etc/resolv.conf|pastebinit        then paste the url here
[16:52] <designbybeck_> ok SonikkuAmerica I see the Usa Aa Device
[16:52] <SonikkuAmerica> andryyy387: I was at one time
[16:52] <designbybeck_> Use a Device
[16:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Click it
[16:52] <designbybeck_> ok it is rebooting
[16:52] <aFeijo> folks, I downloaded a .mp4 file but it play without audio?
[16:53] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  I'm back to the GRUB Try Ubuntu
[16:53] <Beast-> aFeijo, what are you using to play the file?
[16:53] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: OK, try Ubunti
[16:53] <SonikkuAmerica> *Ubuntu
[16:53] <YokoBR> MonkeyDust, aptget is not working
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  apt-get, not aptget
[16:54] <YokoBR> I dont have internet since i cant resolve names
[16:54] <designbybeck_> dang!!! Same crash SonikkuAmerica
[16:54] <andryyy387> aFeijo, you may try to install package gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[16:54] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: As in it abruptly shut off?
[16:54] <designbybeck_> It makes a noise, like the speakers and and everything else glitches and goes black and turns off
[16:54] <designbybeck_> yes SonikkuAmerica
[16:55] <hitsujiTMO> yoko what is the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[16:55] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: That's a hardware issue to be sure... sounds like your motherboard,
[16:55] <designbybeck_> GGRRRRrrr
[16:55] <aFeijo> Beast-, default ubuntu 13.04 player
[16:55] <aFeijo> andryyy387, apt-get told me that I've get it already
[16:56] <Beast-> aFeijo, ok, then try a different player, like VLC
[16:56] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica:  this lady, one of our nursing faculty just bought this to donate it to one of our hospitals we help out with in Malawi
[16:56] <aFeijo> Beast-, ok
[16:56] <designbybeck_> We're in Texas.... I'm not sure what to do with it!
[16:56] <YokoBR> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>, nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>, nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:56] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: What make is it?
[16:57] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica: HP 2000 TPN-L108
[16:57] <designbybeck_> not sure if l orL or what
[16:57] <Rory> YokoBR: You don't want that <IP_ADDRESS> line there
[16:58] <hitsujiTMO> YokoBR: can you change the contents to http://paste.ubuntu.com/6241383/  and then restart networking
[16:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh, right. You may want to either take it to a local computer repair place or get it RNA'ed.
[16:58] <SonikkuAmerica> *RMA'ed
[16:58] <aFeijo> Beast-, damn, I cant install vlc... some package conflict
[16:58] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: ^^
[16:58] <andryyy387> really aFeijo? what conflict?
[16:59] <Beast-> thats interesting :S
[16:59] <YokoBR> Mm ok
[16:59] <andryyy387> aFeijo, you may want to try to install:  ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:59] <andryyy387> this should install amr decoder files too
[16:59] <designbybeck_> Thank you for your help though SonikkuAmerica
[16:59] <designbybeck_> i'm trying to see if Windows will at least boot up
[16:59] <aFeijo> andryyy387, I have it
[17:00] <andryyy387> and these? sudo apt-get install libavcodec-extra-53 libavdevice-extra-53 libavformat-extra-53 libavutil-extra-51 libpostproc-extra-52 libswscale-extra-2
[17:00] <Beast-> andryyy387, do you still have to do that via terminal, to be able to say yes to some options?
[17:00] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: You're welcome
[17:00] <aFeijo> andryyy387, it say "depend: vlc-nox (...) but wont be installed"
[17:00] <mahender43> hi
[17:02] <mahender43> any body now how to profilling in Android phone using oprofile
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> mahender43  how is that ubuntu related?
[17:03] <mahender43> do u know any chatroom for oprofile
[17:03] <matthias_> Hi there, I'm having a problem exporting the correct Path variables for the java installation I got via apt-get. ls /usr/lib/jvm returns java-1.6.0-openjdk-amd64  java-6-openjdk-common
[17:03] <matthias_> java-6-openjdk-amd64      java-7-openjdk-amd64
[17:04] <andryyy387> Beast-, sorry for the late answer. dont know. :)
[17:04] <hitsujiTMO> mahender43 try #android maybe
[17:05] <YokoBR> Removed <IP_ADDRESS> but still not working
[17:06] <hitsujiTMO> YokoBR: what is the exact contents: please use paste.ubuntu.com
[17:06] <mahender43> thank u
[17:07] <YokoBR> Omg, im on a smartphone
[17:08] <Jimy56> Does anybody knows how to get win7 medias on ubuntu and ubuntu medias on win7?
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> yokobr: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>    do you get a response?
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  try <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> YokoBR  or <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:09] <jdoles> The date command returns an answer which is off by two hours.
[17:09] <jdoles> I mean: "returned".
[17:09] <Modem80> I do not like unity, what version of ubuntu can i use that will look like the old ver of Gnome?
[17:09] <Modem80> Unity sux!
[17:09] <jdoles> It was fixed, but it took like 40 seconds.
[17:09] <cgt> Modem80: Try Xubuntu
[17:09] <andryyy387> cinnamon
[17:09] <cgt> !xubuntu | Modem80
[17:10] <Modem80> thanks
[17:10] <Modem80> but i want gnome
[17:10] <cgt> Modem80: Gnome 2?
[17:10] <andryyy387> then mate
[17:10] <jdoles> Also, my new kernel ... crashed.
[17:10] <YokoBR> Yep, i c ann ping them
[17:10] <andryyy387> mate is like old gnome
[17:10] <Modem80> I think they have made the latest version of ubuntu to complicated
[17:10] <Modem80> the design is horrible
[17:10] <Modem80> the older editions were so much easier to navigate
[17:11] <cgt> Modem80: No need to elaborate on why Unity is horrible.
[17:11] <andryyy387> there are a lot (!) of useful shortcuts, keep super pressed, you see them
[17:11] <Siyfion> Modem80: I dont think it's complex, just non-intuitive
[17:11] <YokoBR> No, i cant anymore
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> Modem80  time to get used to the new interface!
[17:11] <m3kk> cgt, you got that right
[17:11] <andryyy387> < brbr
[17:11] <gordonjcp> Modem80: Unity is the default, because it's far better than all that horrible old Gnome 2 crap
[17:11] <Siyfion> MonkeyDust: Or switch to cinnamon / XFCE4 / ....
[17:11] <cgt> !offtopic
[17:12] <SonikkuAmerica> cgt: Food call.
[17:12] <Modem80> Why Did they go for the Unity desktop?
[17:12] <SonikkuAmerica> *Good
[17:12] <gordonjcp> Modem80: but if you don't like it, you can always use something else
[17:12] <cgt> compdoc: ?
[17:12] <YokoBR> I cant ping anymore
[17:12] <cgt> oh
[17:12] <gordonjcp> Modem80: because it's the best
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> !notunity | Modem80
[17:12] <gordonjcp> Modem80: it is by far the best desktop environment in any OS
[17:12] <m3kk> gordonjcp, also the slowest i have ever used
[17:12] <Modem80> gordonjcp - what is another alternative u would recomend/?
[17:12] <gordonjcp> Modem80: it's even better than OSX
[17:12] <gordonjcp> Modem80: I wouldn't.  I only recommend Unity
[17:13] <gordonjcp> m3kk: it's more responsive than Gnome 2 on equivalent hardware
[17:13] <m3kk> gordonjcp, you cant mean that on nothing but highend pc?
[17:13] <gordonjcp> m3kk: if it's *really* too slow, try XFCE
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> YokoBR: can you please change the contents of /etc/resolv.conf  to http://paste.ubuntu.com/6241383/    and then restart the networking service
[17:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Modem80: I recommend XFCE or LXDE if you don't want your desktop running slower
[17:13] <gordonjcp> m3kk: it's blindly fast on my 2GHz Core 2 Duo with 1GB
[17:13] <m3kk> gordonjcp, yep that is what im running to be fair. I want o run unity but nooope
[17:13] <m3kk> gordonjcp, nvidia?
[17:13] <gordonjcp> m3kk: it's the best of a bad bunch on my 1.8GHz Celeron with 512MB
[17:13] <gordonjcp> intel...
[17:14] <cgt> Modem80: You could also try the fallback mode in Gnome 3. It is similar to the old Gnome experience.
[17:14] <gordonjcp> m3kk: if you've got NVidia, try the binary drivers
[17:14] <gordonjcp> brb, got to pick someone up off the train
[17:14] <m3kk> gordonjcp, ive got intel e450 with amd hd 6320.. it should be able to run it ?
[17:14] <gordonjcp> m3kk: I'd imagine so
[17:14] <gordonjcp> m3kk: if you're really struggling, toss some more memory in
[17:15] <Modem80> the new ver of 13.04 doesnt even recognize my Wireless card, I have been using ubuntu for the last 5 yrs, and I am so dissapointed by this new release, are any other the older version still supported??
[17:15] <gordonjcp> Modem80: 12.04
[17:15] <cgt> !lts
[17:15] <gordonjcp> Modem80: that's an LTS release
[17:15] <m3kk> gordonjcp, i just tried running liveUSB and it froze and struggle reeaally bad especialy dash. ran liveUSB with xubuntu and i could browse web, softw are center , irc , terminal and it did not flinch.. :S could not run anything in ubuntu. really sad
[17:15] <gordonjcp> Modem80: if you're having problems, instead of whining try filing bugs
[17:16] <gordonjcp> m3kk: strange
[17:16] <Modem80> gordonjcp - does 12.04 include unity?
[17:16] <cgt> Modem80: yes
[17:16] <gordonjcp> Modem80: yes
[17:16] <m3kk> gordonjcp, perhaps unity depend more on activating correct drivers.,. but xfce isnt
[17:16] <cgt> Modem80: But you can install whatever desktop environment you want in any version of ubuntu
[17:16] <gordonjcp> m3kk: no idea
[17:16] <m3kk> gordonjcp,  ok just a thought
[17:16] <Modem80> cgt - i want my desktop to look like the older versions of gnome , will 12.04 look like the older versions?
[17:16] <cgt> Modem80: Not by default
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> Modem80  then you will never get used to the new desktop
[17:17] <cgt> Modem80: but as I said, you can install whatever desktop environment you want
[17:17] <Modem80> monkeydust- the new desktop looks like a tablet and it sux!
[17:17] <Modem80> :)
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> Modem80  then use a different, xfce, kde, mxde, something else maybe
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> lxde*
[17:18] <cgt> Modem80: Saying that something "sux" is not productive. I already told you that you can install whatever you want and you've received many suggestions.
[17:19] <m3kk> Modem80, exactly what tablet does it look like?
[17:19] <cgt> !offtopic
[17:20] <quadHelix> I have 3 ubuntu boxes.  When I `ping google.com` 2 of the machines are pinging kidsource.com and the 3rd is pinging 1e100.net.  Any ideas why?
[17:20] <dtcrshr> what would be the most compatible  lightweight ubuntu version for my friends oldschool acer notebook? it gots intel vga onboard
[17:20] <m3kk> !guidelines
[17:20] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica: I booted off a DVD, it idnd't crash this time, but only took me to the ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ promte
[17:20] <YokoBR> Got resolvconf error: /etc/resolv.conf isnt a symlink
[17:20] <dtcrshr> the lts version runned, but very slow
[17:20] <m3kk> dtcrshr, xubuntu or lubuntu
[17:20] <Modem80> Is SUse better than ubuntu?
[17:20] <cgt> Modem80: That is subjective
[17:20] <Beast-> are appples better than oranges?
[17:20] <dtcrshr> m3kk: between both, which is the lighter?
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> Modem80  depends on what you like more
[17:21] <Modem80> what do u like?
[17:21] <m3kk> dtcrshr, lubuntu
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: So it booted to a console? Try [ starts ]
[17:21] <dtcrshr> thanks
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> dtcrshr  linuxlite is light and ubuntu based (but not supported here)
[17:21] <m3kk> dtcrshr, but xfce looks nicer.. both are more lightweight than default unity thou
[17:21] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Or rather, [ startx ]
[17:21] <designbybeck_> yeah
[17:21] <dtcrshr> yeah.. unity is VERY heavy
[17:22] <dtcrshr> comparing to windows 7 that I instlaled double boot
[17:22] <designbybeck_> SonikkuAmerica: Fatel server error: no screens found (EE)
[17:22] <m3kk> Strangely on my mother really old laptop it runs unity like a dream
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> YokoBR delete /etc/resolv.conf  and restart networking
[17:22] <Beast-> dtcrshr, its blasphemy, but i found linux mint to be working surprisingly nice on an old netbook of mine (1.2ghz singlecore atom processor)
[17:22] <m3kk> but with my new laptop it cant be run with satisfaction
[17:22] <dtcrshr> Beast-: agree. I pesronally use LMDE
[17:22] <designbybeck_> maybe boot with nomodeset?
[17:22] <Jimy56> Somebody knows how to change weechat layer?
[17:22] <SonikkuAmerica> designbybeck_: Try rebooting...
[17:22] <dtcrshr> Beast-: mate desktop is amazingly productive and lightweight
[17:22] <Jimy56> sry bad channel
[17:23] <Modem80> Windows 7 is better than Unity!
[17:23] <m3kk> dtcrshr, i have never tried MATE. its like old gnome2 ?
[17:23] <m3kk> Modem80, Microsoft is better then iPhone!
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> Modem80  please stop now, we understand that you don't like unity
[17:23] <m3kk> wait...errr
[17:23] <Modem80> sorry
[17:24] <dtcrshr> well kinda. but for multiple desktop and no eye candy its quite nice. Now that some steam games are avaiable, the lest I need is desktop overlays
[17:24] <Modem80> is anyone in here from Texas?
[17:24] <designbybeck_> I am Modem80
[17:24] <dtcrshr> dota2 and tf2 runs like a charm, on the same pc with ubuntu / unity its impossible to play
[17:24] <Modem80> Dallas?
[17:24] <designbybeck_> San Angelo, out west about 5hrs
[17:24]  * Beast- wonders if there is an #ubuntu-dating channel
[17:24] <dtcrshr> m3kk: but theres also cinnamon, a midter between them
[17:25] <Modem80> xubuntu - works great!
[17:25] <m3kk> dtcrshr, cinnamon is a nono for me... runs slow like unity here
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> Modem80  did you have a ubuntu support question?
[17:25] <dtcrshr> yeah.. too expensive for a little eye candy
[17:25] <dtcrshr> actually seeing both screenshots im on doublt between xubuntu and lubuntu
[17:25] <m3kk> dtcrshr, the menu is lagging behind and has al kind of delays
[17:25] <dtcrshr> xfce seems quite more finished
[17:26] <dtcrshr> ill give xubuntu a try
[17:26] <Beast-> quick question: what can i expect when installing a fresh 13.04 or 13.10 on a SSD? Do i still need to tweak all sorts of settings, or will it just work out of the box?
[17:26] <m3kk> dtcrshr, honeslty i have never tried LXDE, give xubuntu a try with the liveUSB/liveCD and see if it feels snappy enough
[17:27] <dtcrshr> sure m3kk !
[17:27] <m3kk> dtcrshr, if it doesnt.. then create liveUSB with lubuntu and compare =)
[17:27] <limace255> xubuntu roxx
[17:27]  * limace255 using this since some years, good stuff
[17:27] <m3kk> dtcrshr, i craeted liveUSB with xubuntu and it ran FASTER in LIve session then my current Mint  cinnamon did..amazing
[17:27] <m3kk> limace255, +1
[17:28] <limace255> :]
[17:28] <dtcrshr> actually on this acer and another student hp notebook, usb sticks with ubuntu wont boot never... I have some sticks with a bunch of distros settled up with sardu or yumi (gparted, ubcd, clonezilla, etc...) that works fine.. ubuntu keeps asking for something on the way
[17:28] <dtcrshr> I ressurected an old dvdRW to install them up
[17:28] <cac> m3kk, because cinnamon uses OpenGL compositing which will slow down your PC quite a bit
[17:28] <limace255> well, some unuseful spent time with older releases, but since 4.8, perfect
[17:29] <dtcrshr> m3kk: my personal notebook im using lmde + mate, a low latency kernel and bumblebee package, its AWESOME
[17:29] <m3kk> cac, quite a much bit to tell you the truth. that is the way with unity as well? since i use radeon that can be the cause .. drivers
[17:29] <dtcrshr> for instance, on ubuntu unity dota2 give me 18, 20 fps
[17:29] <dtcrshr> with or without bumblebee
[17:29] <dtcrshr> on mint i get 32, 36
[17:29] <cac> m3kk, yes.
[17:29] <m3kk> I have never heard of bumblebee
[17:29] <vooze> I have a little problem with my laptop-screen.. All the white + gray colors are like yellowish.. I have tried with both 13.10 and 12.04.... When the problem is only on the laptop-screen and not when I plug in the my monitor via HDMI, is the problem 100% the screen (like I need to return the laptop) or could it be somthing else? (its the new Intel HD 5200 Iris pro GPU)
[17:29] <cac> m3kk, use open source drivers or catalyst?
[17:30] <dtcrshr> m3kk: its a switcher between nvidia optimus vga and intel sandybridge
[17:30] <m3kk> cac, open source.. catalyst made the OS perform worse actually
[17:30] <cac> yeah
[17:30] <m3kk> dtcrshr, oh!
[17:30] <cac> it's bad with 2D acceleration
[17:30] <dtcrshr> without it its impossible to use the nvidia accelleration
[17:31] <cac> m3kk, I'm excited for Linux 3.12's radeon improvements, but it might take ubuntu forever to adopt that version
[17:31] <cac> m3kk, so if you want better performance you can try fedora
[17:31] <cac> or something else more bleeding edge than ubuntu
[17:31] <chaotic_good> performance?
[17:31] <hitsujiTMO> wold it not be better to move the graphics discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[17:31] <chaotic_good> try writing some code that doesnt make machine do a lot of work
[17:32] <chaotic_good> for nothing
[17:32] <vooze> cac: why not just use this? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-rc5-saucy/
[17:32] <chaotic_good> I hate when I gota fart and im at work among 100 people
[17:32] <SonikkuAmerica> !it | Just a reminder
[17:32] <chaotic_good> if want performance
[17:32] <chaotic_good> then code it in ADA forth or C
[17:32] <chaotic_good> :)
[17:32] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Err...
[17:33] <chaotic_good> ok who here is doing iscsi SAN with ubuntu>?
[17:33] <chaotic_good> kbam
[17:33] <dtcrshr> cac, the experimental vga drivers for nvidia or ati are quite bleeding
[17:33] <dtcrshr> you can give a shot up on ubuntu also
[17:34] <m3kk> cac, really? fedora? why is that ?
[17:34] <m3kk> sorry for ot
[17:34] <m3kk> leaving now
[17:35] <m3kk> cac, will you follow me?
[17:35] <cac> m3kk, what?
[17:35] <cac> m3kk, Fedora has more updated packages
[17:36] <cac> Xorg versions, kernel versions, mesa versions, etc.
[17:36] <cac> dtcrshr, the proprietary ones?
[17:36] <cac> AMD proprietary drivers suck.
[17:36] <Ari-Yang> ^
[17:36] <Ari-Yang> indeed
[17:36] <cac> And my card is legacy now. Even if I bought it in 2011.
[17:37] <cac> Going to stick with the open source drivers until I buy a Mac or build a PC with Intel graphics.
[17:37] <Ari-Yang> cac: fglrx has horrible 2d acceleration.... mesa 9.2 or greater, xf86-video-ati 7.2 is on par with fglrx when it comes to gaming
[17:37] <Ari-Yang> this is with open source radeon driver
[17:37] <dtcrshr> cac: the pre-released updates if enabled on your repos will bring up the experimel fglrx
[17:38] <cac> Ari-Yang, not really. I still get terrible fps with openarena on 1080p with mesa.
[17:38] <parasaurolophus> where can i get help with libreoffice writer? it's a simple question about aligning text
[17:38] <IdleOne> cac: All very interesting but nothing to do with ubuntu support. If you feel like chatting please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:38] <cac> Ari-Yang, source games are even worse.
[17:38] <Ari-Yang> I myself run mesa 9.3 xf86-video-ati 7.2...
[17:38] <dtcrshr> cac well, if you like games, run from ingel graphics
[17:38] <Ari-Yang> cac: what mesa version?
[17:38] <Ari-Yang> are you using?
[17:38] <dtcrshr> besides the optimus / intel mashup is quite nice here
[17:39] <cac> dtcrshr, there is no experimental version of fglrx for me. My card is legacy.
[17:39] <IdleOne> Ari-Yang: dtcrshr Please continue the conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic and keep this channel free for support only
[17:39] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[17:39] <cac> Ari-Yang, on this box, whatever ubuntu 13.04 comes with
[17:39] <dtcrshr> hmm mine is quite older, I dunno if its legacy.. its hd6790
[17:39] <Ari-Yang> cac: what's the output of glxinfo | grep -i opengl ?
[17:39] <Ari-Yang> it should tell you the mesa version
[17:40] <dtcrshr> sorry IdleOne, ill bail
[17:41] <cac> Ari-Yang, 9.1.4
[17:41] <cac> my netbook which runs openbsd has 9.2, lol.
[17:42] <Ari-Yang> Ari-Yang: ummm yeah, there are a lot of improvements in 9.2 and on... Like I said before, gaming is on par with fglrx... I know some guys who have ditched fglrx and went with mesa 9.2 or 9.3 setup
[17:42] <cac> I ran openbsd on this desktop once, experienced similar if not the same fps with linux when running -current
[17:42] <cac> Ari-Yang, replying to yourself?
[17:42] <Ari-Yang> tab fail
[17:43] <Ari-Yang> *shrugs*
[17:43] <cac> Ari-Yang, gaming is not on par with my box
[17:43] <Ari-Yang> k
[17:43] <cac> source games run terribly
[17:43] <cac> openarena runs terribly
[17:43] <cac> everything is slower with mesa
[17:43] <Ari-Yang> cac: and you're running 7.2 of the radeon driver?
[17:43] <Ari-Yang> cac: and you're using kernel 3.10 or greater?
[17:43] <Ari-Yang> cac: if that's the case, then maybe that's why
[17:43] <cac> phoronix's benchmarks find mesa is very far from being "on par" with fglrx
[17:44] <cac> Ari-Yang, I did on fedora
[17:44] <cac> I'm on xubuntu right now
[17:44] <IdleOne> cac: Ari-Yang Seriously, please take this discussion to PM or #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:44] <Ari-Yang> :K
[17:44] <cac> IdleOne, ok
[17:49] <blz> Hello!  I have a laptop that's not always connected to my home network.  Is there a way to automatically mount my home network's NFS shares only when I'm on said home network?
[17:51] <Mikey^> Hello
[17:51] <blz> What's the best way to go about making a user's files unreadable by users not in his group?
[17:51] <Mikey^> I run Ubuntu 13.04 and when I use skype (with video), sometimes it automatically logs off.
[17:51] <blz> by default it appears that any user can read files from any other user and I'd like that not to be the case
[17:51] <Mikey^> When I dont have video, there is no problem.
[17:51] <limace255> blz : user/group strategy
[17:52] <andry> blz, chmod a-rwx && chown you:you file
[17:52] <minimec_> blz: Change the 'properties' of /home/yourname
[17:52] <andry> chmod a-rwx file && chown you:you file
[17:52] <andry> sorry
[17:52] <Mikey^> I have an AMD onboard graphics card. I have installed the drivers from the AMD website. If I use the drives with ubuntu, I see random lines acorss the screen.
[17:53] <blz> andry can I just apply that to /home/user ?
[17:53] <andry> better not
[17:53] <andry> there are some files that need cross-access
[17:53] <bekks> blz: If you do, you will break things.
[17:53] <blz> bekks, , andry so making one user's files unreadable by other users is a bad idea?
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> blz: that should be chmod o-rwx      not a-rwz
[17:54] <limace255> blz: depends the files you want to "protect"
[17:54] <blz> limace255, pretty much the contents of /home/myuser
[17:54] <andry> the whole $home is a bad idea, i would apply the rules to only some of the folders inside home
[17:55] <blz> andry okay, fair enough
[17:55] <limace255> with the entire /home/user, you'll have some errors, like .gvfs
[17:55] <andry> just chown the folder to you:you (not you:users), then chown a-rwx (=all no read/write/execute)
[17:55] <limace255> the best choice is, like andry said, choose a folder, put the necessary files inside, and apply your strategy
[17:55] <bekks> a-rwx is a bad idea. You dont want others to write things in your home.
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> andry: o-rwx don't you mean
[17:55] <blz> andry I'm not very clear on what that means, actually.  Chown me:me means that the group is changed from `users` to `me` ?
[17:56] <bekks> blz: What do you actually want to do?
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> andry: a-rwx will set a files permissions to ----------
[17:56] <blz> bekks, I just want to make it so that other users can't see the contents of my home folder
[17:56] <limace255> chown means the files will be user's ones
[17:56] <andry> oops ;D sorry, yes, o
[17:57] <limace255> blz: ow, ok
[17:57] <bekks> blz: Then run, as your user: chmod 700 /home/user
[17:57] <andry> 750
[17:57] <bekks> 700.
[17:57] <andry> or 700,
[17:57] <blz> bekks, right that was what I was originally thinkning, but apparently this breaks things?
[17:57] <andry> :P
[17:57] <bekks> Other users shall not see anything, so 700.
[17:57] <andry> yes, if it is you:users
[17:57] <blz> I'm open to suggestions, but I'm a bit overwhelmend!  Everybody is suggesting something different ^^
[17:57] <bekks> blz: a-rwx is the same as 777 which will break things.
[17:57] <blz> *overwhelmed, even
[17:57] <bwayne> blz: listen to bekks
[17:57] <bekks> blz: Run as user: chmod 700 /home/user
[17:58] <andry> no, a+ is 777
[17:58] <blz> bekks, okay, but won't that break things?
[17:58] <andry> haha yes, just chmod 700
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> bekks: a-rwx = 000
[17:58] <bekks> blz: No. It will remove access for others but your user.
[17:58] <limace255> but normally, if you put yourself in a single group, others users won't have access to your /home, I guess
[17:58] <blz> bekks,  and that shouldn't create any problems?  I just want to be double-sure
[17:59] <blz> Sorry if I'm being a pain
[17:59] <bekks> blz: If it does, just run: chmod 750 /home/user
[17:59] <blz> bekks, okay, will do
[18:01] <blz> bekks, limace255 hitsujiTMO, andry, thanks for the help!
[18:01] <blz> Next question:  I have a laptop that's not always connected to my home network.  Is there a way to automatically mount my home network's NFS shares only when I'm on said home network?
[18:01] <andry> i wonder if 700 is fine, you can tell us later, if you want
[18:02] <blz> andry, I'll definitely be back if there are problems =)
[18:02] <bekks> andry: Sure it is fine, unless you want to share contents from your home.
[18:03] <bekks> andry: as a regular user on a multiuser system, you want your home to be private.
[18:03] <andry> there are some configs in there .. but as long as you dont chmod recursive to no group access it should work
[18:03] <andry> yes, but not-readable is a bit more than private
[18:04] <andry> maybe some apps want to read private config files etc
[18:06] <Dudytz> hi all! in ubuntu saucy + gnome 3.10 the changes in the Gnome Tweak (activation of plugins) not persists after a reboot, can anyone tell me if is a know bug?
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> #ubuntu+1 for saucy support Dudytz
[18:08] <bazhang> Dudytz, gnome3.10 from a PPA?
[18:08] <Dudytz> yes
[18:08] <Dudytz> from ppa
[18:08] <Dudytz> ubuntu gnome + gnome 3.10 from ppa
[18:08] <bazhang> Dudytz, contact the PPA maintainer, we dont support PPA
[18:08] <bazhang> that one in particular has multiple warnings, iirc
[18:08] <Dudytz> ok, thanks
[18:14] <yokobr> Guys, please, still no dns
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> !dns
[18:16] <yokobr> Omg.. It was working until i upgraded to 12.04
[18:17] <tgm4883> yokobr, that sounds like a dnsmasq issue
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> yokobr  people come and go, better repeat your inital question, in one single line, for those who just entered
[18:18] <yokobr> Omg... Im on a smartphone, but okay, here we go again
[18:18] <yokobr> Ive upgraded ubhntu to 12.04
[18:19] <yokobr> Now i cant ping anything
[18:19] <tgm4883> yokobr, can't ping anything is completely different than DNS doesn't work
[18:19] <yokobr> Ok
[18:20] <yokobr> I cant ping or open any webpage
[18:20] <Pici> yokobr: can you ping IP addresses? like <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[18:22] <yokobr> No
[18:22] <tgm4883> yokobr, can you ping your router?
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> yokobr  what are the nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf ? no typos, every character counts
[18:23] <Pici> yokobr: Are you getting an IP addresses on your network adapter?
[18:24] <yokobr> Yep, but i cant ping it
[18:24] <yokobr> Its on dhpc and i mettging <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:25] <anonymous> Всем привет.
[18:26] <DJones> !ru | Guest56612
[18:26] <Guest56612> Who is speak in Russian?
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[18:26] <Guest56612> !ru
[18:27] <Pici> yokobr: So you're getting an IP, but you can't ping your router's address either?
[18:29] <oneking> what up kids
[18:29] <oneking> what up kids
[18:29] <oneking> what up kids
[18:29] <oneking> what up kids
[18:29] <FloodBot1> oneking: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:30] <chaotic_good> hows iscsi san from ubnutu?
[18:30] <chaotic_good> reliable?
[18:32] <bekks> chaotic_good: As reliable as you configured it.
[18:34] <chaotic_good> woa thats pretty solid
[18:34] <chaotic_good> cuz ima genius
[18:34] <bekks> yeah, for sure.
[18:34] <genius_blueyes> :)
[18:34] <genius_blueyes> unregulated capitalism
[18:34] <genius_blueyes> conceal caryr guns for all
[18:34] <cgt> !offtopic
[18:35] <Pici> We don't want that crap in #ubuntu-offtopic either.
[18:35] <genius_blueyes> ok ok
[18:35] <genius_blueyes> lets talk iscsi
[18:35] <genius_blueyes> now
[18:35] <genius_blueyes> do you guys not liek reiserfs?
[18:35] <genius_blueyes> and wha tthink of the noop and deadline io scheduler?
[18:36] <bekks> genius_blueyes: Do you have a specific support question. :)
[18:36] <defaultro> hi folks, is there any built-in cpu monitoring task enabled in ubuntu? Would like to know so I don't have to write on
[18:38] <genius_blueyes> yes
[18:38] <genius_blueyes> where is iscsi documented in ubunut 12.04 lts manual?
[18:39] <tgm4883> genius_blueyes, https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/iscsi-initiator.html
[18:40] <genii> genius_blueyes: If you were experiencing an issue with iscsi, reiserfs, or scheduler under Ubuntu, then this channel would be where to ask. For more general questions that you're not really having an immediate problem with, #ubuntu-offtopic is more appropriate
[18:42] <Matiesko> ik heb een vraagje
[18:42] <Matiesko> ik heb een vraagje
[18:42] <genius_blueyes> yeah reiser FS deadlinme and iscsi are mostly my forumula I have lvm2 down pat
[18:42] <bekks> !nl | Matiesko
[18:43] <bekks> genius_blueyes: Do you have a specific support question?
[18:44] <Matiesko> hallo?
[18:44] <bekks> Matiesko: This channel is in english. :)
[18:44] <YokoBR_> Ok, now at least i can access irc
[18:44] <YokoBR_> guys, i have a dns problem... some websites are still not loading
[18:45] <genius_blueyes> no no Im reviewing the iscsi doc im good for now
[18:45] <cgt> YokoBR_: Have you tried changing DNS server?
[18:45] <cgt> *resolver
[18:45] <YokoBR_> yep
[18:45] <cgt> YokoBR_: More details please
[18:45] <cgt> !details
[18:46] <cgt> Are you sure it is DNS related?
[18:48] <Matiesko> gaat er nog iemand reageren?
[18:48] <cgt> !nl | Matiesko
[18:49] <tasslehoff> Ubuntu runs great on my retina MBP, but I would like to use 3 and 4-finger gestures for something. Any utils for that?
[18:50] <eihander> anyone know any good softwares for maleware?? My MOBO is talking to me
[18:50] <cgt> !details | eihander
[18:50] <giiker> eihander:  what is it saying to you? ;-)
[18:51] <bekks> giiker: "Neo, I can see you."
[18:51] <eihander> I have a problem with my motherboard, there is someone actually using it to talk to me!
[18:51] <eihander> its the entire computer!!!
[18:51] <bekks> eihander: So what does it say?
[18:51] <giiker> eihander: well, that's not weird, that's actually normal ;-)
[18:51] <eihander> "You piss off everyone"
[18:51] <AlexKaluzhny> JohnGris, Hi, IS is going to contact you shortly
[18:52] <eihander> "You are figuring out that everybody hates you"
[18:52] <eihander> oh ok :-P
[18:52] <cgt> eihander: Are you sure it's coming from the motherboard?
[18:52] <bekks> eihander: Turn off the volume then, in first instance.
[18:52] <giiker> eihander: you r kidding ,right?!
[18:53] <eihander> I don't have sound installed, no internal speaker that I know of, it's a Rampage III
[18:53] <cgt> eihander: probably not the motherboard then
[18:53] <bekks> eihander: If you dont have sound installed, then you would not be able to hear anything.
[18:53] <cgt> maybe someone placed a speaker in your computer
[18:54] <eihander> I'm definitely hearing something, They just said my real name and they're repeating everything I'm typing to you
[18:54] <gdos> how do i restart alsa? or the my audio output hardware? the only device that shows up is the dummy audio device.
[18:54] <giiker> eihander: how often and at what times does it happen?
[18:54] <giiker> how many times a day?
[18:54] <raub> Does anyone know of a mailing list/irc for logrotate?_______________________
[18:55] <eihander> It's been going on all my life, I just recently got back into using Ubuntu.  I was always using Windows 7 to play video games.  I might have upset some people
[18:55] <bekks> raub: If you are using Ubuntu, this is the right channel.
[18:55] <limace255> raub : they're discussing about it on #ubuntu
[18:55] <limace255> oh, #linux
[18:55] <eihander> Trace IP and idk hackers
[18:55] <eihander> rookits
[18:55] <eihander> almost 15+ years
[18:55] <raub> Thanks!
[18:55] <limace255> brucelee has asked questions about logrotate
[18:56] <YokoBR_> the websites loading are still loading too slow
[18:56] <giiker> eihander: oh ok, I thought this was happening now & then, carry on pls,  your mobo has been detected with a extreme case of toraxic talkativis maliciuos!
[18:56] <bekks> YokoBR_: Then its not a DNS issue. DNS is reponsible for resolving their address only.
[18:56] <YokoBR_> some adresses are not resolving
[18:57] <bekks> YokoBR_: did you change the nameserver?
[18:57] <tjj> Can anyone recommend a high-powered laptop that 100% works with ubuntu?
[18:57] <YokoBR_> bekks, yep, i'm using google's now
[18:58] <bekks> !hcl | tjj
[18:58] <fishcooker> i have ubuntu 10.04.4.. i want to install new kernel 3.1 to the system.. how to seamlessly upgrade kernel from 2.6x to 3.1x?
[18:58] <eihander> I'll brb
[18:58] <eihander> talktivis maliciuos!! no bueno!!
[18:58] <eihander> :-)
[18:58] <tjj> bekks: That link is...not super helpful for laptops
[18:58] <bekks> fishcooker: 3.1? Why do you want that kernel? The current one is 3.11.x
[18:58] <gordonjcp> tjj: macbook
[18:59] <fishcooker> i want to get the graphic advantage on cedar platform bekks
[18:59] <sandGorgon> tjj, in general I have found dell to be very compatible. I have also heard great things about thinkpads.
[18:59] <bekks> fishcooker: Whats "cedar platform"?
[19:00] <fishcooker> cedar trail platform
[19:00] <bekks> fishcooker: What is it?
[19:00] <tjj> sandGorgon: Have you had good experience with Alienware boxes? They're made/sold by dell now I think
[19:00] <cgt> tjj: Alienware is for suckers
[19:00] <tjj> cgt why?
[19:00] <fishcooker> cpu thing
[19:01] <bekks> tjj: Too expensive for the hardware offered.
[19:01] <fishcooker> sorry
[19:01] <fishcooker> board thing
[19:01] <fishcooker> from intel i think
[19:01] <`Dooku> guys, I'm going crazy here
[19:01] <sandGorgon> tjj, typically top end graphics hardware seems to have support lag in linux ... other than that, they should be fine
[19:01] <cgt> `Dooku: why?
[19:01] <bekks> fishcooker: Why dont you say "It the Intel Atom processsor platform"?
[19:01] <`Dooku> just installed ubuntu and it sais that its a wrong password of my username when I KNOW its not
[19:01] <tjj> What do you guys recommend for a 17"+ screen + good CPU? I want to do coding on it so I want some power
[19:01] <tgm4883> `Dooku, yea, it probably is
[19:01] <fishcooker> that's it .. i tell you the detail from the manufacturer
[19:01] <limace255> Dooku : checked numlock ?
[19:02] <bekks> fishcooker: you could try a mainline kernel (from the according ppa) - but be aware that it might not work.
[19:02] <fishcooker> that's my consideration
[19:02] <`Dooku> yes I did guys, actually I trid in all this time with the regular numbers not with the nu lock
[19:02] <tjj> bekks: Can you recommend a high-powered laptop that's not for suckers?
[19:02] <raub> bekks, limace255: something like this: http://pastie.org/private/i35za17ohzt70biec3ggw
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> `Dooku, change it or reinstall both are fairly easy.
[19:02] <`Dooku> I mean I am logged on and all now but it did that while trying to apply the updates
[19:02] <fishcooker> this box is running well on 10.04 but not in graphic bekks
[19:02] <fishcooker> it sucks
[19:03] <`Dooku> well that's the thing wilee-nilee it sais its incorrect when I try to change it
[19:03] <bekks> tjj: No, since this is ubuntu support and not ##hardware :)
[19:03] <raub> I think I copied that from my centos test box but in the end of the show I want to do in both ubunut and centos.
[19:03] <bekks> fishcooker: Do you run 10.04 desktop?
[19:03] <fishcooker> nope server
[19:03] <bekks> fishcooker: Then why do you need graphics on a server at all?
[19:03] <limace255> Dooku : azerty/qwerty mode on keyboard ?
[19:03] <tjj> bekks: Yeah, I'm trying to do my research so I don't have to come back and ask for ubuntu support _after_ I spend $2000 :-)
[19:04] <`Dooku> what's that limace255?
[19:04] <gordonjcp> fishcooker: servers tend not to have graphics
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> `Dooku, You may not be doing it correctly or something is broken. How experienced are you with this?
[19:04] <limace255> your keyboard default language
[19:04] <gordonjcp> tjj: just get a macbook
[19:04] <`Dooku> how can I check that limace255?
[19:04] <limace255> english : qwerty
[19:04] <limace255> well, test it on your login prompt
[19:04] <`Dooku> wilee-nilee somehow I figured it out and I got the updates installed
[19:05] <limace255> type azerty, or the first 6 of your keyboard
[19:05] <gordonjcp> tjj: they're the same kind of spec and same kind of build quality as a good Thinkpad, and the same kind of price, but they don't look like they've been milled out of a solid chunk of 1975
[19:05] <tjj> gordonjcp: I was looking at macbooks but it seems like the biggest one is 15"
[19:05] <gordonjcp> tjj: ah, okay
[19:05] <jackarg> hi, when I try to execute "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh" to enable dvd playback, it says wget could not fetch the site packages.medibuntu.org. indeed when I try to access it from the internet it seems down. Do you know what's wrong?
[19:05] <tjj> gordonjcp: I'm really trying to get a 17" or 18"
[19:05] <bekks> jackarg: Look at www.medibuntu.org to see why.
[19:06] <dklps2> hi all
[19:06] <raub> limace255: so #linux was *not* the right place to ask about logrotate
[19:07] <limace255> ok
[19:07] <raub> Where else can I ask about it
[19:07] <bekks> raub: What exactly happens...?
[19:07] <tgm4883> raub, I missed the initial question
[19:07] <limace255> raub : look at tuto about it
[19:07] <raub> As soon as I mentioned rsyslog, the reply was "well, that surely is a rsyslog question. Now scoot after the rsylog room"
[19:07]  * limace255 remember to have found some awesome ones
[19:07] <bekks> raub: You pasted some config but didnt state the problem, correcrt?
[19:08] <tgm4883> raub, who said that, we should probably burn that person
[19:08] <jackarg> bekks, ok, so why can't they update that command? And what am I supposed to do to enable dvd playback? Since this is now obsolete: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[19:08] <tgm4883> jackarg, it's almost as if that is a.... wiki
[19:08] <bekks> jackarg: The site is down. No one cares about what they did in the past. There is no one left who updates packages. Thats called "it is down".
[19:09] <bekks> jackarg: Did you read the full text on their site?
[19:09] <raub> limace255: All the docs I see assume you provide a list of logs related to a given program, logrotate or fail2ban (if its logs are not sent to syslog) or whatever.
[19:09] <raub> So, you have a bunch of log files, say, related to rsyslog. Which are then treated the very same way
[19:10] <raub> What I need is to have some of those log files being treated differently.
[19:10] <gdos> how do i restart my audio output hardware? the only device that shows up is the dummy audio device.
[19:10] <fishcooker> because this box running java apps
[19:10] <fishcooker> gordonjcp: bekks
[19:11] <raub> So, can I have more than one postrotate in the same file? If so, what happens if I tell logrotate to restart rsyslog twice?
[19:11] <jackarg> bekks tgm4883 ok guys stop attacking me here. All I want to know is how do I enable dvd playback now
[19:11] <tgm4883> raub, not sure I understand. You specify the different log files related to a particular program and each can have it's own settings
[19:11] <jackarg> this community is good at putting people down isn't it
[19:12] <bekks> jackarg: I am not attacking you at all. I am telling you whats up with medibuntu, and where to get help regarding their libdvdcss stuff.
[19:12] <raub> tgm4883: take a look at my pastebin, http://pastie.org/private/i35za17ohzt70biec3ggw
[19:12] <bekks> jackarg: If you dont like it, I'll stop it instantly - I am resting your case.
[19:12] <raub> Ignore it is centos because that is the only one I had at hand. Only line that changes is what is under the postrotate
[19:12] <raub> Ok, and some of the log filenames ;0
[19:13] <jackarg> bekks, ok so what is the solution
[19:13] <raub> So, all those log files are created by rsyslog
[19:13] <bekks> jackarg: I am resting your case. I told you what to do.
[19:13] <raub> I want the first 5 to be treated using the default (create a cron.1 file, for instance)
[19:14] <raub> but, for my messages.log file, I want it to be rotated daily and be compressed and do some other stuff.
[19:14] <raub> tgm4883: does it make sense now? I can clean up the pastebin some
[19:18] <designbybeck_> I've tried both Ubuntu 13.04 and LinuxMint 15, they both just go to a command prompt. I've tried nomodeset but that doesn't seem to help .... HP2000 laptop brand new, with Windows 8
[19:20] <designbybeck_> Fatal server error: no screens found (EE)
[19:20] <adamk> designbybeck_: Pastebin the full Xorg log file.
[19:20] <ObrienDave> designbybeck_... did you try the UEFI instructions? http://askubuntu.com/questions/236787/install-ubuntu-next-to-windows-8-uefi-dual-boot
[19:21] <ObrienDave> designbybeck_... or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[19:21] <anonymous_> woow
[19:21] <anonymous_> 'ts awesime
[19:21] <Crockeo> quick question: with the 12.04 LTS Wubi install I can upgrade to the latest release, right?
[19:21] <designbybeck_> not sure how to do that adamk if i cna't get in to copy and paste
[19:22] <adamk> designbybeck_: Use a utility like pastebinit.
[19:22] <adamk> No need to copy and paste.
[19:24] <blz> Hello, I'm trying to share a directory via NFS, along with all of it's subdirectories (and one symlinked subdir).  Here is my /etc/exports file and /etc/fstab file, respectively:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6242014/,   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6242013/   I'm getting `mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting <IP_ADDRESS>:/export/` when running `sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/export/ test`
[19:24] <blz> what am I doing wrong?
[19:24] <bDUC_> I just started using linux for the first time yesterday. I think I might've broken it. Terminal does not work anymore.
[19:25] <raub> blz: how about sudo mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/ test
[19:26] <blz> raub same issue =/
[19:26] <bDUC_> trying to run gnome-terminal through xterm gives me the error "gnome-terminal: undefined symbol: vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll"
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> Crockeo, wubi is a try out design, per the designer themselves, do you have to use it?
[19:28] <raub> blz: you are doing nvfv4, right?
[19:28] <raub> blz, my exports file is http://pastie.org/private/pibz41sc13vhi5sqpaj6ww
[19:28] <blz> raub, nfs4, yes
[19:28] <raub> did you try using mount.nfs4?
[19:28] <Crockeo> wilee-nilee: I don't /have/ to per se, but I'm not (necessarily) looking for a long-term installation. I'm trying out a Haskell library that doesn't work well on windows and I want to see if it's worth full-on dual booting
[19:28] <bekks> blz: Did you follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto ?
[19:29] <blz> bekks, yes I did
[19:29] <tozen> bDUC_: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libvte9 ??
[19:29] <blz> bekks, it *was* working until earlier today, so I'm not sure what went wrong
[19:29] <designbybeck_> adamk and ObrienDave when I go into BIOS to try to save anything it just crashes and turns off, it does restart. I'm thinking there might be physical problems with this brand new laptop
[19:29] <blz> bekks, I did install and configure fail2ban, but I doubt that's related
[19:30] <ObrienDave> designbybeck_... I seriously doubt a physical problem
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> Crockeo, I would not waste you time with it theoretically you can upgrade it, however it is not strongly supported nor does anyone here really use it. Any OS fully installed can be installed or removed at you whim, wubi is just a file in windows and a waste of time really.
[19:31] <bDUC_> Anybody feel like helping a complete noob to get his terminal started again?
[19:31] <MangaKaDenza> control alt t
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> bDUC_, Since you are new at this you want to learn not to do things you can't fix or reverse.
[19:31] <raub> blz: check if the shares are being seen in the client
[19:32] <Crockeo> wilee-nilee: Alright. I think I'm still gonna waste my time with it, but forego upgrading it. I'll just see if the library works well, if it doesn't then I'll probably just go ahead and uninstall wubi. If it does work well then to the Ubuntu-mobile i go. :)
[19:32] <blz> raub, how so?
[19:32] <bDUC_> wilee-nilee: Fresh install my only way out, eh?
[19:32] <bekks> bDUC_: What did you do that lead to your problem?
[19:32] <designbybeck_> ObrienDave:  it just crashes, you can hear a glitch from the speakers the same time you hear the haddrive park and it turns off
[19:32] <tozen> bDUC_: have you tried what I've said?
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> bDUC_, I reinstalled 3 times in my first 6 months 7 years ago, you choice really, how much time do you want to spend is my motto. ;)
[19:33] <bDUC_> install dependencies for anjuta
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> your*
[19:33] <raub> blz: showmount -e fileserver
[19:33] <JohnGris> logout
[19:33] <designbybeck_> I've had that happen ones when setting up win8 first startup, every time I have tried to boot off USB with Ubuntu and a few times coming out of BIOS
[19:33] <bDUC_> tozen: yeah, does not work
[19:33] <designbybeck_> and just now when I tried to turn it back on, the light comes on for a sec, and then shut off..... I wait a sec and then try again
[19:33] <designbybeck_> it booted back to Win8
[19:34] <arussel> in curl=7.22.0-3ubuntu4.1 what does the 4.1 stand for ?
[19:34] <raub> blz: I take the bind mount works, right?
[19:35] <blz> raub, yeah that part seems to be working
[19:35] <raub> blz: did you do the showmount?
[19:36] <blz> raub, yeah, and I seem to get it there.  Actually it's strange... one of the subdirectories is reachable, but the others aren't =/
[19:36] <bDUC_> "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend. Your settings will not be save or shared with other applications." is another part of the message. GLib screwed up?
[19:36] <defaultro> do you think guys mpstat 5 is heavy for a busy server?
[19:37] <trism> arussel: ubuntu4.1 is the ubuntu packaging version
[19:37] <defaultro> i want the data to be as granular as possible
[19:37] <Yowl> Does it matter for the sack of LVM whether a partition was made before or after its installation?
[19:37] <Yowl> *sake
[19:37] <trism> arussel: it starts ubuntu1, ubuntu2, etc, and the .1, .2 are usually SRU or security updates
[19:37] <raub> blz: you might have to explicitly export the directory or something. Remember only the root has the fsid=0
[19:37] <raub> See my pastebin example
[19:37] <raub> That's what I use
[19:38] <blz> raub, aaah yeah that might ahve something to do with it ^^
[19:38] <blz> raub,  alright let me play around with that.  Thanks for the tips!
[19:38] <raub> Sure thing
[19:38] <pbx> hello. fresh install of 13.04 on a dell xps 13. running fine... but screen is super-dim and not responding to brightness control panel. i know this is a known issue. how do i fix?
[19:38] <raub> Which reminds me: me /export/logs should only be seen by one machine :)
[19:39] <arussel> trism: does it always goes up, or restart from 0 each time a new version of the app itself is out ?
[19:40] <bDUC_> tozen: I think I might have "sudo make install"'d another version of vte before apt-get install libvte9
[19:40] <trism> arussel: it resets with each new upstream version, or new debian version depending
[19:40] <bDUC_> might this be an issue?
[19:40] <trism> arussel: usually the new upstream version goes into debian, and then we get the debian version which resets the ubuntu versioning scheme
[19:40] <trism> arussel: basically it just counts the patches we have on top of the debian package
[19:41] <Yowl> Does it matter for the sake of LVM  and enhanced data security from resizing partitions, whether a partition was made before or after its installation?
[19:41] <gdos> two part question because i think one is related to the other: 1. how do edit services (which ones start and which ones don't)?  2. my physical audio device has now become my dummy audio device. I followed the instructions here but to no avail (meaning these instructions didn't work for me):   http://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/ (i'm thinking my issue is related to JACK)
[19:42] <arussel> trism: so the 4.1 -> 4.2 would be a security update due to a problem on the packaging, not the root app (I'm assuming here that if curl1.1 get a security update, then it will be moved to 1.2)
[19:42] <jdoles> Why do I not have any working audio device?
[19:42] <trism> arussel: no in the case of security updates they are applied as patches to the upstream version, usually backported
[19:42] <raub> Where does network manager store dhcp lease info? Specifically for a wireless connection if it matters
[19:42] <jdoles> In my previous boot, I had working sound.
[19:44] <trism> arussel: occasionally we will get completely new upstream versions to deal with those issues but most of the time not
[19:46] <bDUC_> So nobody with an idea of the problem when I get this while trying to run gnome-terminal from xterm? "GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend. Your settings will not be saved or shared with other Applications. gnome-terminal: symbol lookup error: gnome-terminal: undefined symbol: vte_terminal_set_alternate_screen_scroll"?
[19:46] <arussel> trism: thanks
[19:47] <genii> raub: /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.<iface-name>.leases
[19:47] <repudiate> What up hood?
[19:47] <necloveksk> i have a problem with my screen after instaling ubuntu 13.04
[19:47] <necloveksk> when i log in
[19:48] <necloveksk> it only shows mouse cursor
[19:48] <necloveksk> on blank screen
[19:48] <EricKit> Hello, I have an issue only after a cold shutdown that does not happen I reboot.  I have put the issues here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/354305/mouse-and-keyboard-dont-work-from-shutdown-do-work-from-restart but noone has been able to help.  Any ideas?  Upvote if you can..it affects several Lenovo users.  I've tried Ubuntu+1 forums as well as searches
[19:49] <gradash> hello, can someone help me with mint 15 ?... i have damn tearing in movies, ATI card, tearing settings ON in catalyst control panel...but anyway glitches.... :(
[19:50] <genii> !mintsupport | gradash
[19:50] <marcelolima> hi
[19:50] <gradash> genii, ubottu, thx
[19:50] <compdoc> EricKit, there was an bios option that prevented usb and networking to start on UEFI systems I've installed ubuntu on. I think one was IOMMU, which I had to disable
[19:51] <EricKit> compdoc: I've searched and toggled almost every option in my BIOS.  Remember it's only on a cold start.  What is IOMMU?
[19:51] <compdoc> its used for VT
[19:51] <compdoc> when youre running VMs
[19:51] <compdoc> not needed otherwise
[19:52] <bDUC_> Can I reinstall gnome-terminal somehow?
[19:52] <ipfaffy> In 12.04, how do you control the number of virtual desktops? Like I want to add 2 more vertically
[19:52] <bDUC_> or get rid of vte all together somehow?
[19:52] <compdoc> EricKit, also, look to see if there are bios updates for your system
[19:52] <EricKit> compdoc: I've run em... thanks!
[19:53] <Yowl> Does it matter for the sake of LVM and enhanced data security from resizing partitions, whether a partition was made before or after its installation?
[19:53] <thumpba> i have 12.04lts fresh install but i have a gpg error when i run apt-get update
[19:53] <bekks> Yowl: No.
[19:53] <jdoles> Why doesn't my audio work?
[19:53] <EricKit> compdoc: Mind upvoting my qustion? I can't find an answer! I've tried everything I can find.
[19:53] <jdoles> lspci shows the card.
[19:53] <jdoles> It used to work before the reboot.
[19:54] <raub> Yowl: encrypting partition?
[19:54] <Yowl> raub: With or without encryption
[19:54] <raub> jdoles: either the space pope decreeded so or we need more info
[19:55] <compdoc> EricKit, how would I do that? dont think I have an account on askubuntu.com
[19:55] <jdoles> raub: I already gave more info.
[19:55] <jdoles> raub: as root I do have sound apparently.
[19:55] <jdoles> raub: but.. I did not change anything.
[19:55] <bDUC_> ls
[19:55] <jackarg> let me try again: how would one enable dvd playback in ubuntu
[19:55] <Yowl> raub: I seem to be unable to install LVM, and am wondering if I can just make the partitions, with say one being encrypted, and install LVM latter, whether the order will matter
[19:55] <raub> Yowl: AFAIK LVM does not care a dingo's kidneys about security. Either way is the same
[19:55] <jackarg> ?
[19:55] <bekks> Yowl: How do you try to "install LVM"?
[19:55] <thumpba> the error is 'E: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
[19:56] <raub> Yowl: I have done both
[19:56] <Yowl> bekks: Ubuntu software center
[19:56] <bekks> Yowl: And whats the error you get?
[19:56] <windows> When trying to run a virtualbox, I get "Kernal driver not installed (rc=-1908)". I then install the dkms package and ran vbox as root, but got the same error.
[19:56] <linus> execuse me,  how about black screen after switching users and logging out
[19:56] <bekks> windows: Then install the vbox kernel drivers.
[19:57] <bekks> windows: The error even tells you how to do it.
[19:57] <bluechaos> guys I have a problem !
[19:57] <Yowl> bekks: Failed to download package files: check your internet connection
[19:57] <jdoles> raub: you got your information...
[19:57] <bekks> Yowl: Did you check your internet connection then?
[19:57] <bekks> Yowl: Which ubuntu are you on?
[19:57] <Yowl> bekks: I'm using said internet connection right now, it's fine
[19:57] <windows> bekks: I tried running the command it gave me '/etc/init.d/vbox setup' or whatever it was, but it didn't work
[19:58] <bekks> windows: It tells you why it didnt work, too.
[19:58] <linus> can somebody tell me about  "black screen after switching users and logging out"
[19:58] <Yowl> bekks: 11.10, and I know I need to update it, working on that now
[19:58] <bekks> windows: And you have to use sudo to run that command.
[19:59] <bluechaos> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6242221/
[19:59] <jdoles> Do I need to be in the audio group?
[19:59] <tgm4883> Yowl, are you asking why you are having trouble installing LVM in 11.10?
[19:59] <raub> isn't the package lvm2?
[19:59] <blz> I'm still having trouble with my NFS system.  I'm following the NFSv4 tutorial (without kerberos) and I can successfully mount in the client with `sudo mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 <IP_ADDRESS>:/ /mnt`, and I see the exported directory within.  However, when I cd into that directory I find that it's empty.   Any ideas?
[20:00] <Yowl> tgm4883: Not exactly, just mentioned I wasn't able to install it when asking about whether it matters if a partition is created before or after installing LVM, then I was asked about what kind of installation problems I was having
[20:00] <windows> bekks: i get a "not found" warning, so change to virtualbox instead of vboxdrv (which does exist in init.d), then it gives me a usage echo, but without the 'setup' method
[20:00] <flan_suse> I am getting the following error message whenever I use apt: "dpkg: error processing procps (--configure)"
[20:00] <bluechaos> guys can u help me ? ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/6242221/ ) ?
[20:00] <tgm4883> Yowl, well 11.10 isn't supported anymore, so I'd imagine you are unable to install it because the repo doesn't exist
[20:00] <zykotick9> blz: you export directories you want from the nfs-server, which typically isn't /...
[20:01] <flan_suse> I cannot get rid of the message about procps, even if I do apt-get upgrade. It wants to "upgrade" nothing, and spits out the same message: "dpkg: error processing procps (--configure)"
[20:01] <blz> zykotick9, sure, but doing `sudo mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 <IP_ADDRESS>:/nfs/ /mnt` gives me a similar result
[20:01] <pbx> brightness controls not working on Dell XPS 13 with 13.04. anybody?
[20:01] <blz> namely an empty /mnt
[20:01] <raub> tgm4883: good call, but he can still use the sites that keep old distros
[20:01] <bDUC_> So I found out vte 3.0+ breaks gnome terminal. Installing an earlier version over it doesn't work. How do I get rid of the broken version?
[20:01] <bekks> windows: That will not work, whe randomly changing commands.
[20:01] <Yowl> tgm4883: I figured it might be something like that
[20:02] <blz> FWIF, my /etc/exports now has these two lines:  `/export       <IP_ADDRESS>/24(ro,fsid=0,no_subtree_check,async)`  and    `/export/nfs   <IP_ADDRESS>/24(ro,crossmnt,insecure,no_subtree_check,async)`
[20:02] <bekks> windows: Uninstall your vbox version, and install the official vbox version from the official vbox website.
[20:02] <windows> bekks: right, then I'm stuck at "no such file"
[20:02] <linus> somebody can help me "http://dpaste.com/hold/1418005/"
[20:02] <zykotick9> blz: what is ".. proto=tcp,port=2049 .." for?  are you sure you need it?
[20:02] <computa_mike> Just thought I'd ask this question (although I may have to dissapear from the keyboard for a bit)...  I'm preparing a presentation for oggcamp, and on one of the slides I'm working on I'd like to put the Bazaar logo, as the slide talks about the use of bazaar for animation scene management.  Do i need any special clearance to use the Bazaar logo on a slide that will talk about Bazaar - I think I'm ok doing that, but it would be
[20:02] <windows> bekks: ok. is the ubuntu store not reliable?
[20:02] <popey> computa_mike: no
[20:02] <blz> zykotick9, I'm just following the tutorial here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto
[20:02] <bekks> windows: I never used it.
[20:02] <blz> zykotick9, should I try mounting differently?
[20:02] <Yowl> tgm4883: Do you concur that it doesn't matter at all if a partition is made before or after installation of LVM?
[20:02] <zykotick9> blz: you wouldn't typically need to export /foo and then /foo/bar... the first will cover the second.
[20:03] <windows> bekks: fair enough
[20:03] <blz> zykotick9, how do you mean?  Sorry, this is all very new to me
[20:03] <zykotick9> blz: i just use "mount IP:/export/dir /foo"
[20:03] <blz> zykotick9, ok let me try that
[20:03] <computa_mike> popey: so I'm
[20:03] <computa_mike> popey: sorry - miss type.  Thanks for clearing that up.  :)
[20:03] <Pici> computa_mike: Its probably fine to you it, but if you want to be sure it would be better to ask in #bzr, not #ubuntu
[20:04] <thumpba> i have a fresh 12.04 install and am getting "'E: GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2" when i run apt-get
[20:04] <blz> zykotick9, same problem -- empty mount point
[20:04] <zykotick9> blz: did you restart the nfs server after adding the exports?
[20:04] <Pici> computa_mike: or nevermind ;)
[20:04] <raub> Yowl: the partition for lvm you can create any time
[20:04] <blz> zykotick9, yes
[20:04] <raub> But then you need lvm to do pvcreate :)
[20:04] <zykotick9> blz: are you sure there is something in those directories?
[20:04] <blz> zykotick9,  oh shi- ... i think that might not be an error at all
[20:04] <computa_mike> Pici: thanks
[20:05] <blz> zykotick9, it seems as though my directory is empty, meaning I somehow rm'ed my files =(
[20:06] <Yowl> raub: Just to be clear on your meaning, you're saying it doesn't matter of the partition was made before or after LVM? I thought just perhaps LVM kept track of some data during creation or something
[20:06] <windows> How can I search all installed packages?
[20:06] <bekks> Yowl: Correct. It doesnt matter.
[20:07] <bDUC_> This is driving me nuts. Say I "sudo make install" on vte 0.34 and I want to remove everything it did. What do I do?
[20:07] <raub> Yowl: which partition are we talking about? When I setup lvm I need partition(s) that I will use with it
[20:07] <raub> Then I pvcreate them
[20:08] <raub> vgcreate and then lvcreate the partitions *inside* lvm that I will be providing to the system
[20:08] <bekks> raub: He is trying to install the lvm package and cant do it, because of the server being unreachable currently.
[20:08] <zykotick9> bDUC_: try "sudo make uninstall"
[20:08] <bDUC_> zykotick9: I love you so much <3
[20:09] <Yowl> raub:  I don't understand the question, "which partition" almost sounds like your asking me what I label them or something
[20:09] <flan_suse> Okay, I figured out the problem myself. If anyone is interested. Here was my problem: "I cannot get rid of the message about procps, even if I do apt-get upgrade. It wants to 'upgrade' nothing, and spits out the same message: 'dpkg: error processing procps (--configure)'" Turns out, SpiderOak created an invalid *.conf file under /etc/sysctl.d/. Commenting it out solved my problem.
[20:09] <raub> bekks: unreacheable as in no internet connection or?
[20:09] <bekks> raub: Yes.
[20:09] <zykotick9> bDUC_: in future, look into checkinstall - it creates DEBs from source, for easy removal.
[20:10] <bekks> Yowl: You should fix your internet connectiom first, to actually install the lvm package.
[20:10] <raub> bekks: shouldn't the install iso have lvm?
[20:10] <bekks> raub: Depends on how he installed ubuntu before.
[20:11] <Yowl> bekks: Nothing is wrong with my internet connection. "first, to Install the lvm package" first before?
[20:11] <Querulous> Hey all - I've got a problem installing Ubuntu on an Acer Aspire One laptop that seems to be somewhat common - I disabled the Windows function that prevents third-party OSes from being installed(that thing everyone hates), but now it's just showing me the SYSLINUX/Peter Anvin copyright page and won't go past that. The solutions I see online are telling me to change some things in the installation files, but what to change and how se
[20:11] <bekks> Yowl: You said you have problems installing the lvm package. Did you even check wether it is already installed?
[20:12] <Yowl> bekks It would say it was installed in ubuntu software center, if it were installed
[20:12] <bekks> Yowl: Did you check it?
[20:12] <raub> Yowl: type lvs
[20:13] <raub> if it works chances are you have lvm installed
[20:13] <Yowl> bekks: raub  Not installed
[20:13] <raub> Yowl: you are running ubuntu 11.X, right?
[20:13] <Yowl> raub: Currently, yes
[20:14] <bekks> Yowl: Then you have to fix that problem first. Did you try changing the installation mirror used?
[20:14] <k1l> !eol | Yowl
[20:14] <raub> Yowl: you cannot use the normal ubuntu installation sites
[20:14] <k1l> 11.xx is out of support. no installation of packages possible
[20:14] <Yowl> Well aware people, I wasn't even asking about installing it
[20:15] <raub> Yowl: you need to get the lvm packages, right?
[20:15] <bekks> Yowl: Then why did you try to install it...? :)
[20:15] <Yowl> raub: bekks I thought I would try it
[20:15] <Yowl> That was @ bekks
[20:15] <brian__> Hi there does anyone know much about rhythm box when I place a cd in it does not extract the tracks and find them it just says unknown although I can find the album through musicbrainz the server for rhythm box would anyone have any ideas?
[20:15] <davide> ciao
[20:16] <davide> !list
[20:16] <bekks> Yowl: You should follow the link given by ubottu, for updating your EOL installation.
[20:16] <raub> Yowl: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[20:16] <Guest95353> !list
[20:17] <pbx> thanks ubottu
[20:17] <Querulous> Hey all - I've got a problem installing Ubuntu on an Acer Aspire One laptop that seems to be somewhat common - I disabled the Windows function that prevents third-party OSes from being installed(that thing everyone hates), but now it's just showing me the SYSLINUX/Peter Anvin copyright page and won't go past that. The solutions I see online are telling me to change some things in the installation files, but what to change and how se
[20:17] <k1l> Yowl: 11.xx is not supported anymore. no one can say if its a problem that wasnt already fixed in an update but your system does not get any updates sonce some time. so see the message from the bot
[20:18] <awygle1> hello everyone. i am on precise and trying to install a version of libboost-all-dev which is >1.46. according to packages.ubuntu.com, the default version for that package in precise should be 1.48, but i am seeing it installing 1.46. 1.46 was installed on this machine previously. is that the reason i'm seeing this strange behavior, and if so, how can i fix it?
[20:19] <Yowl> k1l: Well aware, well aware
[20:19] <raub> Yowl: the site I gave you has packages for 11.10. They are the latest there will ever be, but that does not mean they will be updated. But, it should get you going until you can upgrade to 12.04+
[20:20] <bruno_al> info; con la 13.04 non e' piu' possibile vedere le dirette rai?
[20:20] <ObrienDave> !it | bruno_al
[20:20] <Cherian> Hey, novice ubuntu user here, need a bit of help. Is this where I ask for it or is there another page?
[20:20] <OerHeks> !info libboost-all-dev precise
[20:21] <k1l> !details | Cherian
[20:21] <OerHeks> awygle1, did you add any PPA ? that would explain it
[20:21] <awygle1> OerHeks: i believe i've added an sssd backport ppa, but it has nothing to do with boost
[20:21] <ObrienDave> !ask | Cherian
[20:22] <OerHeks> awygle1, maybe, maybe not, it can disturb the dependencies
[20:23] <Querulous> Hey all - I've got a problem installing Ubuntu on an Acer Aspire One laptop that seems to be somewhat common - I disabled the Windows function that prevents third-party OSes from being installed(that thing everyone hates), but now it's just showing me the SYSLINUX/Peter Anvin copyright page and won't go past that. The solutions I see online are telling me to change some things in the installation files, but what to change and how se
[20:23] <Cherian> Right, I just installed 13.04, and I can't seem to get any icons to show. The taskbar right on the top looks really sucky. It looked great on the usb drive, but after the first install it took over two hours to startup and so I forced a restart. Ever since, it's been like this. I've tried the unity --reset option, as well as installing ccsm, but nothing seems to work. I've even installed Cinnamon: it's a little better, but the icons still don't sho
[20:23] <Cherian> w, and the dialog boxes aren't very 'cool'.
[20:25] <k1l> Cherian: you have the proper driver for your video card set up?
[20:26] <Cherian> @k1l I'm not sure. How do I find out? (Quite a noob, sadly :( )
[20:26] <windows> How can I ftp to ftp://ftp.kernel.org/? Getting "Name or service not known"
[20:26] <Cherian> kl: I did look under the propriety drivers thing, and installed my Broadcom driver.
[20:26] <ObrienDave> windows... get rid of the ? at the end of the line
[20:26] <raub> windows: dns issues?
[20:26] <k1l> Cherian: which video card do you have? (chec with lspci)
[20:27] <Cherian> k1l: 00:02.1 "Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[20:27] <Cherian> " Is that it?
[20:28] <ObrienDave> windows... hmm, I got in through file manager
[20:28] <zykotick9> Cherian: if you use "lspci -v | grep -i vga" do you see 2 listed?
[20:28] <jdoles> Do I or do I not need to be in the audio group in order to play audio?
[20:28] <jdoles> I have read the wiki, which says "no".
[20:28] <jdoles> The wiki seems to be wrong.
[20:28] <k1l> Cherian: yes. if its the only video card (if that is not a hybrid combination with a nvidia or ati card). the intel card doesnt need a special driver since its supported with the kernel
[20:28] <jdoles> Or if not wrong, very incomplete.
[20:29] <jdoles> Is there anyone who actually knows what they are doing?
[20:29] <gordonjcp> jdoles: what exactly are you trying to do?
[20:29] <jdoles> Random upgrades of a stable distro like 12.04 LTS should not break all of this stuff.
[20:29] <jdoles> gordonjcp: mplayer foo.wav
[20:29] <gordonjcp> oaky
[20:29] <jdoles> gordonjcp: as a user which is not in the audio group.
[20:29] <k1l> jdoles: you will get support by the volunteers in here if you dont rant or do personal attacks
[20:29] <Cherian> zykotick9: Nope, just "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])"
[20:29] <gordonjcp> why would your user not be in the audio group?
[20:30] <jdoles> k1l: that logic makes no sense.
[20:30] <jdoles> k1l: and skilled people know that, so please just don't mention that spam.
[20:30] <ObrienDave> *no feeding trolls*
[20:30] <jdoles> gordonjcp: because the wiki recommends that.
[20:30] <jdoles> gordonjcp: it's not supposed to be needed.
[20:30] <gordonjcp> jdoles: depends what you're trying to do
[20:30] <gordonjcp> jdoles: are you using pulseaudio?
[20:30] <jdoles> gordonjcp: audio playback via pulse.
[20:31] <jdoles> gordonjcp: yes
[20:31] <zykotick9> Cherian: ok, i just wanted to see if it was hybrid (for the channel, i've got nothin').  best of luck.
[20:31] <raub> jdoles: 1) I barelly work on desktops, so sound and video cards are of no consequence to me. 2) People here are helping you for free; throw them a bit of courtesy
[20:31] <Cherian> k1l: Right, so um.. is there anything I should do? lspci -v | grep -i vga only lists one.
[20:31] <Cherian> zykotick9: No worries :) Thanks
[20:31] <gordonjcp> jdoles: and what happens when you try that?
[20:32] <jdoles> raub: why do you ask a question for more information if you don't know the subject?
[20:32] <k1l> jdoles: since its not the first time this is the last warning to stick to the guidelines. you know the rules
[20:32] <jdoles> gordonjcp: when I run alsamixer, it says no such file or directory.
[20:32] <gordonjcp> jdoles: I'm feeling disinclined to help you, since you can't be civil
[20:32] <gordonjcp> hm
[20:32] <ObrienDave> jdoles... why are you being a jerk to people who are trying to help you for FREE
[20:32] <gordonjcp> jdoles: I'm feeling disinclined to help you, since you can't be civil
[20:32] <jdoles> k1l: are you crazy?
[20:33] <jdoles> I am just asking.
[20:33] <gordonjcp> jdoles: you're being terribly rude
[20:33] <jdoles> k1l: you should go outside someday.
[20:33] <k1l> jdoles: if you cant stick to the guidelines stay out of the channel. if you want to talk about the kick or the rules do that in #ubuntu-ops. stick to support in here
[20:33] <jdoles> gordonjcp: I used to be able to run alsamixer just fine.
[20:33] <jdoles> gordonjcp: without being in the audio group.
[20:34] <gordonjcp> jdoles: that's nice.  I hope you find a solution to your problem.
[20:34] <OerHeks> jdoles your user has to be member of the audio group.
[20:34] <jdoles> gordonjcp: you should be happy that I even spend the time to report this issue and not just install Debian.
[20:34] <jdoles> OerHeks: and why would that be?
[20:34] <gordonjcp> jdoles: makes no difference to me what you run
[20:34] <the_file> are there any sound cards that have drivers provided from the vendor for linux?
[20:35] <gordonjcp> jdoles: why would I be happy or sad or otherwise
[20:35] <kristenbb> how can I run a qt5 app on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[20:35] <jdoles> gordonjcp: if I don't run it, lots of other people also won't.
[20:35] <jdoles> gordonjcp: network effects, etc.
[20:35] <gordonjcp> jdoles: <shrug>
[20:35] <ObrienDave> jdoles... oooo, a legend in your own mind
[20:35] <jdoles> gordonjcp: I represent a group of users with similar decision making processes.
[20:36] <gordonjcp> the_file: not that I know of, although some USB and Firewire devices need firmware uploaded which you generally extract from the Windows drivers
[20:36] <jdoles> If I decide that this kind of brokeness in an LTS is not worth the trouble, others will surely come to the same conclusion.
[20:36] <OerHeks> jdoles, show us the wiki that says otherwise.
[20:36] <jdoles> Nobody likes breakage.
[20:36] <gordonjcp> jdoles: take it to ##someonewhogivesatoss
[20:36] <gordonjcp> jdoles: oh look, the channel is empty
[20:36] <k1l> guys, lets stick to technical support and a warm clima in here. no offences please
[20:37] <ObrienDave> ok, ok *ignores the troll*
[20:37] <jdoles> OerHeks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/TheAudioGroup
[20:37] <Cherian> So could anyone help me out here? I'm a bit stuck. I've tried reinstalling unity and even installing other environments but the icons never seem to show, and the windows aren't showing very well either.
[20:38] <jdoles> I think you are just pathetic if you defend breakage after installing a new kernel (the latest kernel doesn't work _at_ all).
[20:38] <funkt> Hi there my cd is not showing in the mount folder would anyone know why?
[20:39] <ObrienDave> Cherian... have you tried re-installing from scratch?
[20:39] <pbx> so, i just installed 13.04 on a new dell xps 13 for work.  backlight is off.  ubuntu thinks it's on.  ran apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade successfully. what next?
[20:39] <OerHeks> confusing, my user is member of audio. ( fresh install) so that wiki is outdated.
[20:39] <Cherian> ObrienDave: Well, this is sort of my third install :) Same thing happens every time. The first boot seems to go on forever, I restart, and I'm stuck here.
[20:40] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: my user is *not* a member of the audio group, and sound works just fine for me
[20:40] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: with both pulse and jack
[20:40] <funkt> None of my cds are going into the mount folder
[20:40] <ObrienDave> Cherian... sorry, I'm at a loss...
[20:40] <Cherian> ObrienDave: Most people seem to be :( Sigh. Thanks anyway.
[20:41] <thumpba> do i need to have extras.ubuntu.com as a source for precise...what am i missing by commenting this out, my server keeps failing on apt-get update
[20:42] <OerHeks> funkt, does it show up in /media/ ?
[20:42] <ObrienDave> thumpba... don't see where it would hurt
[20:43] <thumpba> ObrienDave: thanks. i keep getting a gpg error nodata1 nodata2 and can't seem to fix it
[20:43] <dpb1> Hi -- I upgrdaed raring to saucy, and I have some weird behavior, the theme of the panel is wrong, it looks like QT, the dash is missing all lenses (like application even).  What could be going wrong?
[20:44] <ObrienDave> dpb1... saucy support in #ubuntu+1
[20:44] <dpb1> ObrienDave: thx
[20:44] <funkt> No it doesn't I have just found a link it seems that audio cds are different
[20:45] <thumpba> would anyone rec running 13.10 instead of 12.04LTS for production environment
[20:45] <funkt> http://askubuntu.com/questions/102406/how-to-find-mount-point-for-audio-cd-dvd
[20:46] <repudiate> What's good in the hood #Ubuntu?
[20:46] <ObrienDave> 13.10 not officially released yet
[20:46] <raub> thumpba: unless you need the versions of software that are only on 13.X, I would not use it in a server
[20:46] <repudiate> How do I get rid of my unity bar for GNOME?
[20:46] <repudiate> Does anyone know a good and effective way for me to familiarize myself with shell commands?
[20:47] <k1l> repudiate: install gnome-shell or gnome-panel?
[20:47] <repudiate> k1l: Do I have to remove the Unity bar first?
[20:47] <bwayne> repudiate: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[20:47] <repudiate> k1l: Do I have to remove it at all?
[20:47] <repudiate> bwayne: Thanks.
[20:47] <k1l> repudiate: you should consider installing another desktop that suits you more
[20:47] <k1l> !notunity | repudiate
[20:47] <repudiate> k1l: What do you mean?
[20:47] <funkt> It seems that there isn't a filesystem for audio cds?
[20:48] <repudiate> kimphill: Should I opt for KDE instead?
[20:48] <ObrienDave> funkt... audio CDs have their own FS
[20:48] <funkt> not according to that link?
[20:49] <funkt> I dont know
[20:49] <funkt> do you know where the FS is?
[20:50] <k1l> repudiate: no. please see the bots message. there are other gnome based desktops included in the repos, that maybe look more the way oyu like from the start
[20:50] <histo> funkt: what are you trying to do?
[20:51] <funkt> I am trying desperate to rip and tag tracks through puddletag if you have heard of the software and in order to do this I need to import a folder but I cannot find the folder for the audio cd
[20:51] <funkt> does this make sense?
[20:52] <histo> funkt: /dev/cdrom
[20:52] <funkt> Or do you know of any other way if you are familiar with this software?
[20:53] <funkt> there is no such directory on my install histo
[20:53] <histo> funkt: well substitute for whichever dev for your cd
[20:53] <funkt> in ask ubuntu it seems to state "Audio CDs are a bit different - there's no actual filesystem there and as such they can't be mounted. "
[20:54] <histo> funkt: somewhat true