[03:30] <Linuturk> Kyral, so I should modprobe prism2 ?
[03:30] <bulio|lap> ^^2 wireless
[03:30] <Linuturk> with a sudo?
[03:30] <bimberi> chovy: we're all very biased :)
[03:30] <Kyral> Linuturk: sudo modprobe prism2
[03:30] <dbernar1> bulio|lap: and both can get online?
[03:30] <chovy> ok...so I've installed it....how can i connect to the internet with it?
[03:30] <bulio|lap> yep
[03:30] <Madpilot> chovy: I run x86 myself, but a friend runs PPC and it looks identical to the x86 version...
[03:31] <eobanb> chovy, what type of internet connection do you have?
[03:31] <bulio|lap> ubuntu connects fine if I run pppoeconf, but not when I use dhcp
[03:31] <chovy> i have an internal mac 56k modem
[03:31] <Linuturk> Kyral, returns FATAL: Module Prism2 not found
[03:31] <eobanb> chovy, as far as i know, those are supported.  let me double-check though
[03:31] <dbernar1> bulio|lap: and....can you ping IP addresses at all? figure one out from your online computers, and then also try pinging computers on same network.
[03:31] <Kyral> Linuturk: sudo depmod -a
[03:31] <bulio|lap> cant ping
[03:32] <hirak21> damn
[03:32] <bulio|lap> when I ping my router I get ping: sendmsg: operation not permitted
[03:32] <hirak21> my connection dropped
[03:32] <hirak21> lol
[03:32] <cafuego> Madpilot: minus working java/flash/video
[03:32] <hirak21> so what else is a 1 cd linux distro
[03:32] <hirak21> thats good
[03:32] <dbernar1> bulio|lap: hm...Ill think for a few and tell you if I figure something out.
[03:32] <poimen> slackware
[03:32] <Linuturk> Kyral, back to prompt
[03:32] <Madpilot> cafuego: yeah, OK, I was going to mention those...
[03:32] <cafuego> hirak21: Just plain old Debian.
[03:32] <bulio|lap> ok
[03:32] <Kyral> I'm not gonna say gentoo....
[03:32] <poimen> and arch
[03:32] <bulio|lap> just PM me
[03:32] <Kyral> Linuturk: thats what its supposed to do
[03:32] <Linuturk> Kyral, now what?
[03:33] <Kyral> Linuturk: sudo modprobe prism2
 slackware
[03:33] <hirak21> slackware is 2 cds...
[03:33] <bimberi> chovy: System -> Administration -> Networking, Modem Connection, Properties and see how you go
[03:33] <Linuturk> Kyral, not found
[03:33] <eobanb> chovy, sorry if you've answered this before, but is there any particular reason you don't want to run mac os x on your G4?
[03:33] <dbernar1> Now I get stuck on another step. When I am configuring primary installation repo while configuring apt.
[03:33] <poimen> Archlinux then
[03:33] <cafuego> chovy: The modem should be detected and just work.
[03:33] <eobanb> cafuego, i believe it's a softmodem
[03:34] <Kyral> Linuturk: lemme think
[03:34] <cafuego> Ohhh icky
[03:34] <Kyral> Linuturk: You have net?
[03:34] <dell500> does anyone here know how to install gtkpod past 0.94??
[03:34] <dbernar1> bulio|lap: you can ping router from other computers?
[03:34] <chovy> i bought an "as is" mac os x, and after a week of use the HD crashed. I've only just bought another one
[03:34] <Kyral> Linuturk: on the Ubuntu setup?
[03:34] <Linuturk> Kyral, sexual favors are in store for you if you get it working :-P  Kyral, yes, it's a public access point
[03:34] <chovy> 80Gb hitachi deskstar
[03:34] <Kyral> Linuturk: I mean can you apt-get install from it?
[03:34] <bulio|lap> dbernar1: yes I can
[03:34] <chovy> the mac came with no cds :(
[03:34] <Linuturk> Kyral, no
[03:34] <AnonymousHive> chovy: I have the exact same hdd in this PC -_-
[03:35] <cafuego> chovy: That sucks, the owner shopuld have kept the original setup/rescue cds.
[03:35] <Kyral> okay...
[03:35] <chovy> it was an ex university machine so they couldn't
[03:35] <chovy> i was glad to have mac osx
[03:35] <cafuego> chovy: Mind you, you can download and install Darwin ;-)
[03:36] <bulio|lap> its like the router denies all connections
[03:36] <hirak21> fuck
[03:36] <hirak21> ihsgijafdjad
[03:36] <Kyral> Linuturk: look in /lib/modules/(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[03:36] <hirak21> im tired
[03:36] <hirak21> later Kyral
[03:36] <chovy> but didn't know (or expect it to crash) so i didn't make any backups
[03:36] <eobanb> chovy, i'm reasonably sure that modem won't work
[03:36] <Kyral> Linuturk: replacing (uname -r) with whatever it outputs
[03:36] <cafuego> chovy: Well, you probably couldn't have restored the OS from a backup cd/dvd/tape anyway.
[03:36] <chovy> whats darwin and how good is it. (im a win user and macos user...i like interfaces)
[03:36] <eobanb> actually are you sure it *has* a modem? university machines usually dont
[03:36] <dbernar1> bulio|lap: and you are positive you have a valid IP address? Have you tried power cycling everything? Like, shutting it down, unplugging the router, and mode, then turning all back on in order modem router computer.
[03:37] <robotgeek> Kyral: unfortunately the prism2_cs module is not installed in breezy, only the usb
[03:37] <dbernar1> bulio|lap: other than that, I have no other suggestions, it should work at this point.
[03:37] <chovy> im sure eob...i was using it fine with macos
[03:37] <eobanb> ah, okay.
[03:37] <cafuego> chovy: Darwin is the free bits of OSX.  (without the GUI)
[03:37] <Kyral> robotgeek: You have to be shittin' me
[03:37] <bulio|lap> damn
[03:37] <Linuturk> prism2 isn't in there
[03:37] <egytrack> how can i open webmin in browser ?
[03:37] <cafuego> robotgeek: orinoco_cs should work fine on any prism2 card, though,.
[03:37] <Linuturk> at all
[03:37] <robotgeek> Kyral: no, that is the only issue
[03:37] <bulio|lap> how can I re-start the connection?
[03:37] <robotgeek> cafuego: apparently not
[03:37] <dewdude> anyone have any suggestions on how to get read-only on NTFS working for users?
[03:37] <Linuturk> wait, usb is
[03:37] <Kyral> Linuturk: can you get this thing to a landline?
[03:38] <Linuturk> we tried that driver
[03:38] <SweetestSavage> Hi there everyone, I was just wondering.. there is certain server software that I need to download and run, however it depends on certain files that are only available for windows. How would I go about installing Windows files on an Extended 3 file systyem?
[03:38] <SweetestSavage> system*
[03:38] <cafuego> What is the card?
[03:38] <Linuturk> Kyral, tomorrow maybe
[03:38] <cafuego> Specifically?
[03:38] <chovy> should is stay with hoary or go darwin?
[03:38] <Linuturk> MN-520 by Microsoft
[03:38] <eobanb> chovy, i think your best options would be to either get a copy of mac os x or a modem that is known to work with linux, or perhaps figure out some other way of connecting to the internet, if that's possible for you
[03:38] <dbernar1> dewdude: ya, do you know what fstab is?
[03:38] <cafuego> chovy: Stay with Hoary.
[03:38] <Toma-> SweetestSavage: what software is it?
[03:38] <cafuego> chovy: But yeah, looks like the modem won't actually work.
[03:38] <dewdude> dbernar1, yeah, i made some edits...still nada
[03:38] <SweetestSavage> Toma- It's a game called Ragnarok Online.. the server software is called eAthena
[03:39] <Linuturk> Kyral, what do you have in mind?
[03:39] <Toma-> SweetestSavage: i see. you dont want the client?
[03:39] <Kyral> Linuturk: wait what does uname -r spit out?
[03:39] <dbernar1> dewdude: great, then, change it back to the original, and change the "defaults" to "defaults,umask=0222" then umount that partition, and run "sudo mount -a". Tested working.
[03:39] <chovy> what modems work with linux? (i dont even know where to BEGIN looking for that info)
[03:39] <SweetestSavage> Toma- No no.. the server software requires the game in order to run. And I don't know how to install that without an NTFS/Fat32 partition
[03:39] <dewdude> ok
[03:39] <dewdude> all i did was change defaults to begin with
[03:39] <cafuego> chovy: any hardware ones, that don't use USB and come in external boxes. That may be a problem for a G4.
[03:39] <dewdude> but i tried ro,auto,users
[03:40] <Linuturk> Kyral, 2.6.12-10-386
[03:40] <dwalton59> hello i  am new to this OS and I need help accessing the root user
[03:40] <chovy> i got 2 firewire ports so not really a prob (i think)
[03:40] <cafuego> !tell dwalton59 -about rootsudo
[03:40] <eobanb> modern macs don't have legacy serial ports, chovy, so you might be out of luck
[03:40] <cafuego> chovy: No, most hardware modem sare made for PCs ONLY, so they'd need a rs232 serial port.
[03:41] <chovy> oh. um....*over my head motion*
[03:41] <cafuego> chovy: Most modems that would work with linux are made for PC only.
[03:41] <pagefault> I am sure this question has been asked many times but I am trying to install the most rencently released ATI drivers in linux is there a page or howto do telll me how to go about doing this? thanks in advace
[03:41] <robotgeek> cafuego: so, you know anything about that card? i can forward all the lspci/lsmod/lshw  information to you
[03:41] <Xappe> cafuego, what about internal pci non-software modems?
[03:41] <chovy> doh
[03:41] <Toma-> SweetestSavage: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=928
[03:41] <SweetestSavage> pagefault, yes there is let me retrieve it
[03:41] <SweetestSavage> And, thank you Toma-
[03:41] <cafuego> Xappe: They _should_ be OK, but I don't personally know of any.
[03:41] <eobanb> yeah, a PCI modem might work
[03:41] <chovy> can i use a pc modem with pc drivers on a mac machine?
[03:42] <Linuturk> cafuego, *points to robotgeek and my wireless card*
[03:42] <eobanb> chovy, we're talking linux here
[03:42] <cafuego> That said, a PCI 33.6 modem i had made my 6800 PPC panic.
[03:42] <rickest> chovy: no
[03:42] <dwalton59> how do I set up a NTFS drive to bootup at start up?
[03:42] <Toma-> SweetestSavage: dunno about the erver tho
[03:42] <chovy> linux is the os. mac is the hardware yes?
[03:42] <cafuego> Linuturk: paste the specs
[03:42] <SweetestSavage> Toma- It's available in a linux compilation so ;)
[03:42] <eobanb> chovy in this case the fact that it's a mac shouldnt really matter.
[03:42] <aztek> chovy, not necessarily
[03:42] <Kyral> Okay...I'm done
[03:42] <SweetestSavage> pagefault: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:42] <Crackez> just goes to show you, always use good ole serial
[03:42] <cafuego> chovy: No, the idea is you get a _decent_ modem that requires no drivers.
[03:42] <dewdude> dbernar1, thank you..that mounts as read-only right?
[03:42] <pagefault> SweetestSavage, thank you so much
[03:42] <chovy> lol..ok...
[03:42] <SweetestSavage> No problem, have fune =)
[03:43] <SweetestSavage> fun *
[03:43] <Linuturk> cafuego, what specs? it's a microsoft MN-520 wireless card. Prism2 chipset
[03:43] <dewdude> err..yeah..the umask
[03:43] <egytrack> i got Error - Access denied for <IP_ADDRESS> in webmin .. what can i do ?
[03:43] <cafuego> Oh god
[03:43] <cafuego> No wonder it won't work ;-)
[03:43] <rickest> chovy: try http://linmodems.org/ for more info
[03:43] <dissolutions> dwalton59: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[03:43] <chovy> can we pm somewhere im getting confused with all the stuff :)
[03:43] <Linuturk> cafuego, it works under another distro of linux :-P
[03:43] <Linuturk> but I'm in love with ubuntu
[03:44] <robotgeek> cafuego: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5941
[03:44] <Kyral> and a module that is SUPPOSED to be there isn't
[03:44] <cafuego> Linuturk: is pcmcia-cs installed?
[03:44] <Linuturk> cafuego, what is that?
[03:44] <Linuturk> where do I check?
[03:44] <dissolutions> I <3 Ubuntu fairly new to Ubuntu, it just makes daily tasks so much easier :)
[03:44] <robotgeek> Linuturk: sudo apt-get install pcmcia-cs
[03:44] <cafuego> Linuturk: 'dpkg -l pcmcia-cs;
[03:45] <robotgeek> Linuturk: you should have gotten the hang of it by now :)
[03:45] <tburdick> so geda isn't working... and no one seems to know why
[03:45] <tburdick> I'm trying to compile it, but I get errors
[03:45] <Linuturk> cafuego, installed
[03:46] <tburdick> g_basic.c:160: error: `scm_t_catch_body' undeclared (first use in this function)
[03:46] <Kyral> Sorry Linuturk I have NFI until you can get that thing to a net conn
[03:46] <tburdick> it works fine in freebsd though?
[03:46] <tburdick> why would that be
[03:46] <Linuturk> Kyral, ok I'll look for you
[03:46] <dewdude> oh..i have like..two more questions...the nice graphical bootscreen that was added to Breezy...it looks dark on my pc and it doesn't stay up very long...and the system seems to sit during the boot process
[03:47] <dewdude> espically when loading kernel..it looks like it's sitting doing nothing for about 45 seconds
[03:47] <bimberi> tburdick: there is an ubuntu package for geda - in the universe repository
[03:47] <aztek> anyone know why when i sudo iwconfig wlan0 ap <mac:addy:for:router> it doesn't seem to save it
[03:47] <tburdick> bimberi: I just mentioned that doesn't work
[03:47] <cafuego> Linuturk: What entries are made in /var/log/syslog when you plug in the card?
[03:47] <Linuturk> dewdude, that happens when my system is waiting on a network device, like an ethernet card
[03:47] <tburdick> bimberi: not only that, its like a year old
[03:47] <dewdude> oooh
[03:47] <dewdude> ok
[03:47] <dewdude> err
[03:47] <dewdude> no
[03:47] <s1rk1sm> alright i've googled it and i can't find a fix to have ubantu work with my ati drivers
[03:48] <dewdude> it seems sit right before it starts all that
[03:48] <tburdick> gschem segfaults
[03:48] <tburdick> there's plenty of complaints about it in the forum and mailing list
[03:48] <tburdick> no one has any answers though
[03:48] <bimberi> sorry tburdick but i didn't see where you said that you were using the ubuntu packaged version
[03:48] <dewdude> it'll decompress the kernel..say loading...sit for about 30 seconds or so...then start the boot process
[03:48] <Madpilot> !enter
[03:48] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:48] <tburdick> my mistake, I may have not said it clear enough
[03:48] <navyn> anybody here use kino?
[03:49] <tburdick> is there some metapackage for development tools and header files?
[03:49] <silverton> is there a way that I can disable the power button once ubuntu has booted?
[03:49] <tburdick> maybe I'm missing something that I don't know about
[03:49] <dwalton59> how do I set up a NTFS drive to boot up at startup
[03:49] <cafuego> tburdick: Yes. 'build-essential'.
[03:49] <bimberi> tburdick: build-essential
[03:49] <tburdick> thank you
[03:49] <Linuturk> cafuego, it doesn't change
[03:49] <cafuego> Linuturk: is 'cardmgr' running?
[03:49] <eobanb> chovy-readingupo, http://www.devidal.tv/~chris/winmodems/pci_list.html
[03:50] <dissolutions> dwalton59: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs <--- the answer to your question.
[03:50] <dwalton59> thx
[03:50] <navyn> my dv transfers are distorted
[03:50] <NCLife> Falstius, you there?
[03:50] <robotgeek> !ubuntuguide
[03:50] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, an unofficial guide written by community members. It is not guaranteed to be up to date, or to work. There is an official guide, at http://help.ubuntu.com which is preferred.
[03:50] <tburdick> well whatever, I found some unstable debian packages
[03:50] <tburdick> maybe it'll work out
[03:50] <Linuturk> cafuego, the light on the card is on, so I'm guessing it is. I don't know how to check
[03:50] <robotgeek> dwalton59: check out help.ubuntu.com, or the starter guide in Help
[03:51] <dbernar1> yay!
[03:51] <tburdick> well, what do you know... the debian unstable packages DO work :-D
[03:51] <robotgeek> Linuturk: getting there, huh
[03:51] <cafuego> Linuturk: 'ps aux | grep cardmgr'
[03:51] <tburdick> someone should backport...
[03:51] <bimberi> tburdick: great! yay for debian :)
[03:51] <felix_> !deb
[03:51] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:51] <Linuturk> two entries
[03:52] <Madpilot> tburdick: check packages.ubuntu.com - the breezy-backports are listed there, as well as what's coming for dapper
[03:52] <Linuturk> cafuegotwo entries
[03:52] <tburdick> Madpilot: will check it out
[03:52] <tburdick> it'd be nice if I didn't have to add an unstable repo to my sources.lst
[03:52] <cafuego> Linuturk: Ok, so it's running. 'tail -f /var/log/syslog; - the pull the card and plug it back in, see what happens/
[03:54] <navyn> is there a good place to go to get video camera help with linux?
[03:54] <Linuturk> cafuego, nothing, but the light isn't on yet
[03:55] <SweetestSavage> Is there any way to change where new packages install? Unfortunately my linux distrobution was put on a small partition (only 2.3gb >_<) and it's running out of space..
[03:55] <Linuturk> cafuego, now it's saying stuff about eth0
[03:56] <Linuturk> but, my eth0 connection is active
[03:56] <Linuturk> it's looking for an ip :-/
[03:57] <Linuturk> nothing about the card
[03:57] <glass_> trying to get my manager into ubuntu
[03:57] <glass_> is there a tool that will let you see all nodes on the network
[03:57] <glass_> gui interface
[03:57] <glass_> i know about nmap
[03:57] <glass_> but its not gui enough
[03:57] <Aven> hey, how do I open .rar files?
[03:58] <Aven> it won't work :\
[03:58] <Linuturk> cafuego, still there?
[03:58] <AbdulSpiegel> umm does anyone know if there is a fast and easy way to make .mpegs work atleast?
[03:58] <bimberi> !rar
[03:58] <ubotu> from memory, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[03:58] <AbdulSpiegel> or a player that automatically plays it?
[03:58] <h4x> hello peple
[03:58] <Aven> thanks
[03:58] <h4x> im new to ubuntu
[03:58] <h4x> and linux in general
[03:58] <h4x> i need some help
[03:59] <cafuego> Linuturk: Do you have another network card in that laptop?
[03:59] <Madpilot> h4x: please just ask your questions...
[03:59] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, ! does mplayer play mpegs automatically or do i gota add codecs for it too?
[03:59] <Linuturk> cafuego, just my nic
[03:59] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, it should play them I believe
[03:59] <cafuego> Is that a yes or a no?
[03:59] <Linuturk> cafuego, but not another pcmcia card
[03:59] <cafuego> AH ok.
[03:59] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, ok i will try it
[03:59] <h4x> i just installed ubuntu, and it asked me for a user other than root
[03:59] <h4x> i can log in that user
[03:59] <_jason> ubotu, tell AbdulSpiegel about mplayer
[03:59] <h4x> which i am now
[04:00] <h4x> but i cant log in as root
[04:00] <cafuego> Linuturk: Does 'ifconfig -a' list an eth1?
[04:00] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, is mplayer on the package-manager?
[04:00] <h4x> how can i?
[04:00] <Madpilot> !rootsudo
[04:00] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, rootsudo is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:00] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, yes, ubotu sent you a link with a guide
[04:00] <Madpilot> h4x: see the URL above ^^^
[04:00] <h4x> thanks
[04:00] <Linuturk> cafuego, i got eth0, lo, and sit0
[04:00] <cafuego> Linuturk: grgr
[04:01] <Linuturk> gr?
[04:01] <Madpilot> h4x: short version: use sudo, not root, and the pw it asks for is your own user pw
[04:01] <Sanskrit> hy
[04:01] <cafuego> Linuturk: Can you try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1188
[04:01] <h4x> thanks
[04:01] <Sanskrit> could someone tell me if ubuntu is like RedHat KDE based or something?
[04:02] <robotgeek> Sanskrit: no, ubuntu is a debian based distro running gnome
[04:03] <Sanskrit> someone?
[04:03] <AnonymousHive> My preference is Xfce
[04:03] <Sanskrit> oh sorry i didnt saw
[04:03] <Sanskrit> tks man
[04:03] <Sanskrit> =)
[04:03] <AnonymousHive> personally
[04:03] <Linuturk> cafuego, i tried that before.
[04:03] <intelikey> consoles all look the same....
[04:03] <chovy-readingupo> does hoary come with CD burning programs?
[04:03] <Linuturk> cafuego, it didn't work, and i think that person was using hoary, not breezy
[04:04] <Madpilot> chovy-readingupo: several
[04:05] <chovy-readingupo> not a sound one. I mean a drag and drop of folder selection data burner
[04:05] <chovy-readingupo> of = or
[04:05] <nickrud> chovy-readingupo, graveman, gnomebaker, k3b, xcdroast to name a few that fit that description
[04:06] <Linuturk> cafuego, still there?
[04:06] <chovy-readingupo> nickrud: thanks
[04:06] <nickrud> well, drag & drop in xcdroast, I'm not sure about
[04:06] <shadow98> does new ubunu have support for php5
[04:06] <Madpilot> chovy-readingupo: Nautilus - the file manager in Gnome - will burn data CDs like that
[04:06] <nickrud> and I missed the easiest one, of course :)
[04:06] <intelikey> nickrud no but folder selection covered that.
[04:06] <chovy-readingupo> my nautilis crashes "unexpectedly" everytime lol. ill install a package from the net later
[04:07] <khermans> Ubuntu rules!
[04:07] <khermans> chovy-readingupo, what did you do?
[04:07] <cafuego> Linuturk: Yes, I'ms till here.   It was Ubuntu.  She wasn't even working towards a CS degree and wanted to learn some bash scripting.  Very cool.
[04:07] <Madpilot> chovy-readingupo: Nautilus on breezy works for me, and I also like K3B, despite the fact that it's a KDE app
[04:07] <chovy-readingupo> khermans: install the os. :) im a newbie at linux so i didnt touch anything :)
[04:08] <Linuturk> cafuego, crap. why did 2.6 have to lose support for my card?
[04:08] <khermans> Madpilot, what about GnomeBaker?
[04:08] <shadow98> how do i tell what packages are considered stable on ubuntu
[04:08] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html    ??
[04:08] <cafuego> Linuturk: You on 2.6.12-10 right?
[04:08] <khermans> shadow98, things in main and restricted are supported
[04:08] <Linuturk> cafuego, right
[04:08] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, you don't need any of that
[04:08] <cafuego> (coz Dapper has 2.6.15, which doesn't do pcmcia-cs anymore)
[04:08] <shadow98> khermans: where do i finf listing
[04:09] <shadow98> khermans: im looking for php5
[04:09] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, you already have w32codecs (I think you said this) and mplayer is in the repos
[04:09] <KaRupT> How can I host a website if my isp leases me a different IP every week?
[04:09] <cafuego> !info libapache2-mod-php5
[04:09] <Linuturk> cafuego, what do I do after that? are they dropping pcmcia all toghether?
[04:09] <khermans> shadow98, aptitude search php5
[04:09] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, were you able to install it alright?
[04:09] <AbdulSpiegel> _jason, i cant find it on package-manger,
[04:09] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1823 kB, Installed size: 3980 kB
[04:09] <jbroome> KaRupT: check out dyndns.org
[04:09] <nickrud> KaRupT, look into dyndns.org
[04:09] <intelikey> shadow98 anything in the main repos for any release is considered stable....
[04:09] <KaRupT> K thx guys
[04:09] <_jason> AbdulSpiegel, are you following the guide ubotu sent you?
[04:09] <shadow98> khermans: i dont have ubuntu installed
[04:09] <cafuego> Linuturk: No, my orinoco works fine with dapper... there's "pcmciautils".
[04:09] <jbroome> KaRupT: you run a client on your machine that telly dyndns.org when your ip changes
[04:09] <khermans> shadow98, oh -- what dod you want from this chan then?
[04:10] <shadow98> i have debian
[04:10] <Madpilot> khermans: it burns coasters for me...
[04:10] <Linuturk> cafuego, it's prism2 usually supported though? can I upgrade to dapper and see if it works?
[04:10] <jbroome> shadow98: then go to #debian
[04:10] <khermans> Madpilot, works fine here
[04:10] <shadow98> im thinking about switching
[04:10] <jbroome> ahhh
[04:10] <cafuego> Linuturk: As long as you don't expect to be able to downgrade.
[04:10] <jbroome> then i'll stfu. :)
[04:10] <shadow98> because debian doesnt support oho5
[04:10] <shadow98> shit php5
[04:10] <khermans> shadow98, do it if you want -- there not much reason to if your Debian install is going strong
[04:10] <cafuego> Linuturk: It might be worth trying the 'wlan-ng' packages.
[04:10] <Madpilot> khermans: I haven't actually tried in in Breezy, but the Hoary version only did coasters...
[04:11] <cafuego> s/packages/drivers/
[04:11] <chovy-readingupo> is it safe to unhook a USB external HD, in linux? do i have to do something like in windows "its now safe to disconnect the hardware from your machine..." or mac "eject drive"?
[04:11] <Linuturk> cafuego, me and robotgeek did
[04:11] <khermans> Madpilot, breezy version working great -- used 100 of times
[04:11] <Linuturk> cafuego compiled it and everything
[04:11] <Linuturk> cafuego, no go
[04:11] <khermans> chovy-readingupo, just unmount it first
[04:11] <shadow98> thats why im trying to find out if ubuntu does before i waste my time installing
[04:11] <nickrud> chovy-readingupo, you should umount the device to be safe. I
[04:11] <Corrupter> where can i get the Python package from?
[04:11] <khermans> shadow98, it does
[04:11] <khermans> shadow98, php5 is there
[04:11] <cafuego> Linuturk: Does that card still work OK under WIndows or other Linuxes now?
[04:12] <Madpilot> khermans: I'll have to give it another shot; k3b works fine but it's UI bugs the heck out of me!
[04:12] <chovy-readingupo> khermans & nickrud: how do i unmount?
[04:12] <nickrud> shadow98, you can use packages.ubuntu.com to search the breezy package pool
[04:12] <shadow98> where can i find like a listing of stable packages for 5.10
[04:12] <Linuturk> cafuego, it works great under DSL 2.0 and Windows XP pro SP2
[04:12] <shadow98> thanks
[04:12] <khermans> chovy-readingupo, if it is shown on the dektop, right clikcit
[04:12] <h4x> i have a question.
[04:12] <cafuego> Linuturk: Which kernel is dsl2 using?
[04:12] <h4x> my computer locks up
[04:12] <jbroome> oooh, dsl 2?  i need to grab a new copy
[04:12] <h4x> for about 20 secounds
[04:12] <Linuturk> 2.4. something something
[04:12] <h4x> then goes on
[04:12] <khermans> chovy-readingupo, otherwise, something like "sudo umount /dev/UDISK"
[04:12] <cafuego> Hmmm.
[04:13] <h4x> espcially when im playing music
[04:13] <Madpilot> !enter
[04:13] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible.  Also i can't right click..i have a single mouse button :(
[04:14] <AnonymousHive> Everyone must be downloading packages right now, the ubuntu repositories are sloooow right now
[04:14] <AnonymousHive> <70 kb/s
[04:14] <h4x> if i reboot my computer it helps, but eventually it will start doing it again
[04:14] <KaRupT> jbroome, I am sorry I made an account, but I am new to all this, can ya tell me what to do next?
[04:14] <vinzone> can anyone tell me if i can use a linksys wireless internet card on linux to connect to the internet
[04:14] <shadow98> any body know who has the fastest mirror im only get 60kb
[04:15] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell vinzone about wireless
[04:15] <shadow98> now 30
[04:15] <AnonymousHive> shadow98: I think there's just a lot of traffic right now
[04:15] <eobanb> vinzone, it depends.  if your model has a broadcom chipset you may have some trouble.
[04:15] <AnonymousHive> Normally I get around 200kbps from the repositories, but right now I'm getting about 60
[04:15] <Linuturk> vinzone, also, avoid the MN-520
[04:15] <Linuturk> :-P
[04:15] <vinzone> huh?
[04:15] <saib0t> Anyone in here using Cedega.? Does it work well under Ubuntu.?
[04:15] <h4x> is this a common problem or is it just me. i think it may be my hard drive not reading fast enough, or maybe my usb and my logitech mouse, as my point freezes.
[04:15] <intelikey> h4x "questions" are generally 'inqusitive' rather than 'informative'  :)
[04:16] <intelikey> ah a question.
[04:16] <shadow98> cs.umn.edu im getting 450kb
[04:16] <nickrud> Linuturk, your first bit of help here ? ;)
[04:16] <Linuturk> my card, which aparently isn't supported
[04:16] <Linuturk> nickrud, i try to help when I know something
[04:16] <Linuturk> I just don't know much
[04:16] <Linuturk> :-P
[04:16] <nickrud> experience is the best place to teach from :)
[04:16] <cafuego> Not ideal, though.
[04:17] <chovy-readingupo>  khermans: where do i type sudo? Also i can't right click..i have a single mouse button :(
[04:17] <Madpilot> chovy-readingupo: Applications menu --> Accessories --> Terminal
[04:17] <intelikey> h4x it has happened to some.   i had an older box that ubuntu did that way.  but after it stopped using ub on it it continued that problem......   so i'm not sure that ub is at fault.   although i'm not sure it wasnt.
[04:17] <khermans> chovy-readingupo, in the terminal window
[04:17] <youngcoder> what is te commad to install a tar.gz file?
[04:18] <Xappe> youngcoder: tar xzf
[04:18] <youngcoder> kk thnx
[04:18] <LoneWolf071> has anbyone here goptten apache2 working?
[04:18] <Linuturk> cafuego, so I have two options here, right? upgrade to dapper and see if it works? or try out ubuntu on the new laptop I'm getting
[04:18] <cafuego> Linuturk: Well, there's also the option of trying a 2.4 kernel on breezy.
[04:18] <jbroome> LoneWolf071: yes
[04:18] <Xappe> young, that's for extracting the file
[04:19] <cafuego> Mebbe go with Hoary.
[04:19] <Madpilot> LoneWolf071: yes, twice actually
[04:19] <h4x> acknoledged
[04:19] <Linuturk> :-/, i don't want to downgrade . . . that just doesn't feel rigbht
[04:19] <Linuturk> right*
[04:19] <intelikey> h4x if you can boot windows on that box and watch the key board led's closely, it may reviel that it is (at least now)  a hardware issue.
[04:19] <insomnd> is there an easy way to install kernel 2.6.13 in breezy?
[04:19] <insomnd> like with apt or synaptic?
[04:19] <youngcoder> when i use "tar xzf bluefish-1.0.4.tar.gz" it works but how do install it after that
[04:20] <nickrud> insomnd, no
[04:20] <LoneWolf071> lol
[04:20] <cafuego> insomnd: Why would you install an old kernel?
[04:20] <intelikey> h4x that assumes same symptoms ^
[04:20] <cafuego> youngcoder: Don't.
[04:20] <insomnd> cafuego, whats the newest kernel? isnt it 2.6.13?
[04:20] <cafuego> !info bluefish dapper
[04:20] <ubotu> bluefish: (advanced Gtk+ HTML editor), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0.4-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 1495 kB, Installed size: 6512 kB
[04:20] <cafuego> insomnd: Nope.
[04:20] <Linuturk> !dapper
[04:20] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake
[04:20] <cafuego> youngcoder: Do a manual backport from the dapper source deb, create a PACKAGE.
[04:20] <youngcoder> cafuego, what does tht tell me?
[04:21] <youngcoder> omg
[04:21] <youngcoder> i have no clu how to do that
[04:21] <insomnd> cafuego, k... how can i install the latest kernel then? i guess on kernel.org it's 2.6.14, but ive never compiled one before.
[04:21] <khermans> How can I move all the files created in the last 5 minutes to somewhere?
[04:21] <khermans> isnt there lika  ctime option?
[04:21] <cafuego> youngcoder: Then installing from a tarball is CERTAINLY not a good idea ;-)
[04:21] <insomnd> cafuego, i think there's support for my video card in the new kernel
[04:21] <cafuego> khermans: man find.
[04:21] <AnonymousHive> I can't figure out what I need to get to get streaming mp3 support...
[04:22] <AnonymousHive> Google is, for once, not helpful
[04:22] <chovy-readingupo> what about plugging IN a firewire HD? do I need to restart so it doesn't fry the logic circuits (or something)?
[04:22] <insomnd> !kernel
[04:22] <intelikey> khermans bash has a built in
[04:22] <khermans> intelikey, what is the bash syntax?
[04:22] <youngcoder> cafuego, well synaptic says the backport mirror repositories are missing and i cant install it thru synaptic
[04:23] <intelikey> -ot i think khermans
[04:24] <youngcoder> is there a current listing of the correct addreses for repositories so i can check mine to make sure they are correct?
[04:24] <intelikey> if file -ot file ;then  but you'd need to drop that in a for loop  or something.
[04:24] <spdl> night peeps
[04:24] <chovy> do i need to restart if i want to plug in a firewire HD?
[04:24] <chovy> night spdl
[04:25] <`Bryan> WOO HOOO, UBUNTU ROCKS!
[04:25] <eobanb> chovy, nope, shouldnt have to.
[04:26] <Aven> !rar
[04:26] <ubotu> rar is, like, a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[04:26] <`Bryan> hmmm, who else things Ubuntu rocks?
[04:26] <intelikey> khermans something like this;  for x in `ls =1` ;do if [ $x -nt <somefile of the base date> ]  ;then mv $x <some place> ;fi ;done
[04:26] <jahshua> hello
[04:26] <Kyral> oy `Bryan
[04:26] <alejandrodelloco> well I would assume most of the people here
[04:26] <Linuturk> !wireless
[04:26] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:26] <`Bryan> 'lo Kyral
[04:27] <chovy> `Bryan: dunno...haven't used it enough yet
[04:27] <Kyral> Don't mind my friend, he's a Gentoo user
[04:27] <`Bryan> You know what, I'll be WC soon, come to my Wing :P
[04:27] <youngcoder> is there a current listing of the correct addreses for repositories so i can check mine to make sure they are correct?
[04:27] <bimberi> !sources
[04:27] <jahshua> i just installed riece irc client and did    dpkg -L riece | grep bin   in console but it returned nothing
[04:27] <Kyral> `Bryan: Wrong network
[04:27] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:27] <robotgeek> `Bryan: did you know that Ubuntu means "Can't configure Gentoo?"
[04:27] <robotgeek> lol
[04:27] <Gankutsuou> i don't have a c compiler.
[04:27] <alejandrodelloco> haha
[04:27] <Kyral> lol
[04:27] <Gankutsuou> why oh why.
[04:28] <bob832> hi, it's me again  :-)   working on wpa support. . .when i start the wpasupplicant, it gives the error  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/lhOrJM75.html
[04:28] <youngcoder> thnx bimberi
[04:28] <jahshua> i just installed riece irc client and did    dpkg -L riece | grep bin   in console but it returned nothing
[04:28] <alejandrodelloco> I am just too lazy to spend my whole time compiling
[04:28] <bob832> what does this mean?
[04:28] <cafuego> Gankutsuou: You didn't install one.
[04:28] <Kyral> robotgeek: its more like "I'm sick and tired of compiling Gentoo"
[04:28] <bimberi> youngcoder: yw :)
[04:28] <eobanb> i agree with Kyral :)
[04:28] <Gankutsuou> cafuego, i shouldn't have to.
[04:28] <robotgeek> Kyral: yeah, been there. done that
[04:28] <cafuego> Gankutsuou: On Ubuntu, you do.
[04:28] <`Bryan> robotgeek: Gentoo, whats that?
[04:28] <Kyral> I can't take credit, that was one from Jeff Waugh
[04:28] <Gankutsuou> c compiler == standard in EVERY Unix/BSD/Linux distro.
[04:28] <cafuego> Gankutsuou: Coz (as normal user) you have no need to compile.
[04:28] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 what kind of card are you using
[04:28] <Gankutsuou> pfft
[04:28] <`Bryan> GCC rules
[04:28] <jahshua> i just installed riece irc client and did    dpkg -L riece | grep bin   in console but it returned nothing
[04:28] <cafuego> Gankutsuou: If you're a developer and you do, just install it.
[04:29] <Kyral> Okay okay no fighty
[04:29] <robotgeek> Kyral: :)
[04:29] <Gankutsuou> pfft, package dependency hell, gg.
[04:29] <alejandrodelloco> yeah, what's with GCC not being installed by default on ubuntu?
[04:29] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  its a dell turemobile 1350 (broadcom chipset)
[04:29] <cafuego> Gankutsuou: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' is not in fact very hard.
[04:29] <eobanb> Gankutsuou, huh???
[04:29] <youngcoder> where is the source.list file located?
[04:29] <insomnd> what is the latest kernel for breezy?
[04:29] <eobanb> Gankutsuou, sudo apt-get install gcc
[04:29] <rickest> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:29] <Corrupter> how do i install python?
[04:30] <cafuego> alejandrodelloco: By default, users don't need it.
[04:30] <Gankutsuou> that's not my point, any idiot that's used Debian before knows how to add a package, i'm just pissed that it doesn't come by default
[04:30] <Kyral> Corrupter: its installed
[04:30] <robotgeek> Corrupter: it's already installed
[04:30] <bimberi> Corrupter: it's installed by default
[04:30] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 can you also pasteboard an lspci for me
[04:30] <cafuego> Gankutsuou: File a wishlist bug, that would be more productive.
[04:30] <Corrupter> everything i need?
[04:30] <bob832> sure, one min
[04:30] <robotgeek> Gankutsuou: it's on the install cd, you can get it from there too :)
[04:30] <jahshua> i just installed riece irc client and did    dpkg -L riece | grep bin   in console but it returned nothing
[04:30] <Gankutsuou> how about a DDoS http://www.ubuntu.org/ ? is that productive?
[04:30] <Gankutsuou> s/a/i
[04:30] <bimberi> insomnd: 2.6.12-10
[04:30] <Kyral> Corrupter: pretty much
[04:30] <Lynx> hi everyone, I'm new to using Ubuntu and I needed some help
[04:30] <cafuego> Gankutsuou: Yes, very sueful for everyone involved.
[04:30] <robotgeek> Gankutsuou: please stop trolling
[04:31] <cafuego> Growing up too, perhaps.
[04:31] <Gankutsuou> ok
[04:31] <robotgeek> jahshua: dpkg -L reice | less ?
[04:31] <Gankutsuou> fine
[04:31] <youngcoder> how do i put the new lines into the source.list file?
[04:31] <Gankutsuou> i hate you all *cry*
[04:31] <Gankutsuou> btw, get the gcc in there, ;)
[04:31] <Kyral> ...
[04:31] <Kyral> well...
[04:31] <Lynx> how do I intall macromedia flash
[04:31] <jahshua> robotgeek ??
[04:31] <learnfromscratch> i did chmod 777 ./* in lftp prompt.. it says no file called * !!!!
[04:31] <bimberi> youngcoder: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:31] <robotgeek> jahshua: what does that show?
[04:31] <Kyral> ubotu: tell Lynx about flash
[04:32] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/4ibXqq86.html
[04:32] <jahshua> says its not installed
[04:32] <jahshua> but i just installed it ?
[04:32] <jahshua> hmm
[04:32] <newbies> anyone knows here whats the ounterpart of dreamweaver in linux?
[04:32] <robotgeek> jahshua: dpkg doesn't lie :)
[04:32] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards the 1350 uses ndiswrapper
[04:33] <jahshua> ok :)
[04:33] <jahshua> so i should reinstall
[04:33] <Linuturk> newbies, try NVU
[04:33] <Lynx> is there a link anyone can give to go to so I can install flash, I would appreciate any help
[04:33] <Madpilot> !flash
[04:33] <ubotu> methinks restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:33] <intelikey> robotgeek hehhe does if you do things it doesn't know about...
[04:33] <Kyral> Lynx: did you get a PM from Ubotu?
[04:33] <Madpilot> Lynx: see the bot ^^^
[04:33] <newbies> Linuturk, i already have it but it runs different. =(
[04:33] <robotgeek> intelikey: hmm, i see the reference
[04:33] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  yeah, i have ndiswrapper installed and configured,  before i started working on the wpa support, i was able to connect to the router
[04:34] <Linuturk> what cheap wireless card can I get (under $50) that works out of the box with Ubuntu and future releases of Ubuntu?
[04:34] <Madpilot> newbies: handcoding produces better websites - try Bluefish or Screem
[04:34] <Lynx> no pm
[04:34] <alejandrodelloco> mm
[04:34] <Linuturk> pcmcia preferred
[04:34] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 do you know the drill on configuring wpa_supplicant
[04:34] <insomnd> bimberi, will i have to compile 2.6.14 or is there another way?
[04:34] <Madpilot> Lynx: Flash info is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:34] <learnfromscratch> huh .. no one uses lftp ??? please help me.. i did chmod 777 ./* in lftp prompt.. it says no file called ./* !!!!
[04:35] <insomnd> bimberi, also, is it safe to install it?
[04:35] <Lynx> thank so much, I appreciate it.
[04:35] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  i followed the how-to at the forums:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90450&highlight=wpa
[04:35] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  no
[04:36] <insomnd> oh and another question. if i install dapper test2 now, can i just 'apt-get upgrade' later and get the final release? im installing it for a friend
[04:36] <newbies> Madpilot, oks
[04:36] <alejandrodelloco> ok
[04:36] <_jason> learnfromscratch, I don't use lftp, but maybe it doesn't support wildcard expansion like in bash?
[04:37] <dooglus> learnfromscratch: FTP is a bit stupid.  you might find that you need to turn globbing on.  or maybe there's a "-R" flag available for chmod.  You might consider using sftp instead, too.
[04:37] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 can you pastebin your wpa_supplicant.conf (feel free to redact ssid, passkey, psk, and any other sensitive info)
[04:37] <dooglus> insomnd: you can, yes
[04:37] <dooglus> insomnd: is your friend experienced with linux?
[04:37] <insomnd> dooglus, no :p
[04:38] <dooglus> insomnd: because you can expect dapper to be very broken at points between now and April
[04:38] <Madpilot> insomnd: then install Breezy instead, it's stable
[04:38] <intelikey> _jason not that i'm clued in to what exactly you are doing but you could try M$ wild cards ?    if the server is M$ it may take *.*
[04:38] <Lukian_> what's the fastest way to "switch user" ?
[04:38] <insomnd> Madpilot, problem is that the video card is better supported in kernel 2.6.13, which is apparently in dapper
[04:38] <dooglus> Lukian_: control-alt-f7 and control-alt-f8 switch between the 2 logged in users
[04:38] <_jason> learnfromscratch, try intelikey's suggestion ^
[04:39] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/TTKEP175.html
[04:39] <bimberi> insomnd: dapper has 2.6.15 (as far as i can tell), ubuntu kernels are heavily patched so rolling your own can be problematic
[04:39] <alejandrodelloco> bob832, you might want to tell it what device to read
[04:40] <MrFarts> insomnd, what video card ?
[04:40] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 what are the names of your network devices (eth0, etc)
[04:41] <insomnd> MrFarts, its integrated onto the mobo.  How do i fix this?
[04:42] <MrFarts> insomnd, what form-factor card do you need for microatx ?
[04:43] <newbies> insomnd, wer can i find that file?
[04:43] <MrFarts> there has to be something
[04:43] <insomnd> MrFarts, mine uses half-sized pci/agp cards
[04:43] <MrFarts> insomnd, in my experience integrated video is fuzzy too
[04:43] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  it would be ndiswrapper, correct?
[04:43] <LoneWolf071> i accidently deleted /etc/apache2, how do i make a new one?
[04:43] <MrFarts> insomnd, it's just crap all around
[04:43] <alejandrodelloco> bob832, yeah. ok.
[04:44] <insomnd> MrFarts, video works fine with vesa
[04:44] <jordo23_> _jason: you there?
[04:44] <insomnd> MrFarts, just no acceleration
[04:44] <chovy> should i upgrade my 5.04 to 5.10? would this help with driver detection for my modem?
[04:44] <_jason> jordo23, i am
[04:44] <MrFarts> insomnd, the output probably sucks if it's analog
[04:44] <insomnd> MrFarts, movies using SDL uses 40% cpu of 1.6ghz
[04:44] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 try this: sudo wpa_supplicant -Bw -Dndiswrapper -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[04:44] <jordo23_> _jason: You know of any good apps lists for Ubuntu?
[04:44] <intelikey> LoneWolf071 mkdir
[04:44] <MrFarts> i've never seen an onboard video card that doesn't have shitty picture quality
[04:45] <_jason> jordo23, packages.ubuntu.com
[04:45] <LoneWolf071> intelikey, lol, i ment with the config files in it?
[04:45] <ElitePete> MrFarts, my onboard is fine
[04:45] <insomnd> newbies, look into the error message. i think it's in ~/.ssh/trustedhosts
[04:45] <intelikey> oh sorry LoneWolf071 i thought you said /var  lol my bad.
[04:45] <insomnd> or knownhosts
[04:45] <kinection> LoneWolf071: you can't get your config files back after you delete them.
[04:45] <ElitePete> MrFarts, especially since ubuntu doesnt support my x700 pro yet
[04:45] <jordo23_> _jason: no, any lists recommending apps?
[04:45] <LoneWolf071> kinection, ok, then how do i get the default
[04:45] <_jason> jordo23, you can try searching the wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:46] <chovy> anyone? should i upgrade my 5.04 Ubuntu to 5.10? would this help with driver detection for my modem?
[04:46] <kinection> LoneWolf071: i think you have to reinstall
[04:46] <intelikey> yeah etc hehe   i really blew that one...
[04:46] <Yarou_> hmm
[04:46] <LoneWolf071> did that... apt-get --purge remove apache2
[04:46] <MrFarts> ElitePete, maybe it's just my luck :)
[04:46] <LoneWolf071> then installede it
[04:46] <landotter> MrFarts, onboard Intel i8** is usually just fine, too.  They're working on better modem support for dapper
[04:47] <MrFarts> analog 2d output that is
[04:47] <jordo23_> _jason: You prefer Gnome or KDE?
[04:47] <kinection> LoneWolf071:  and it's not giving you a new httpd.conf?
[04:47] <insomnd> apparently xserver-xorg-driver-via should support my card... but it doesnt
[04:47] <_jason> jordo23, personally, i like gnome.  But you should try both, or at least read about it for yourself so you can decide
[04:47] <chovy> lol...it sounds like id be better off using my new HD for macos or <gasp> win98. at least then ill be connected.
[04:48] <jordo23_> _jason: I have used KDE up until Ubuntu....when using Debian, I used KDE.
[04:48] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 where did you put bcmwl5a.inf
[04:48] <insomnd> newbies ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[04:48] <chovy> thnx nickrud, khermans for your help.
[04:49] <_jason> jordo23, ah, so what do you prefer?
[04:49] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 better yet http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/WPA
[04:49] <intelikey> chovy not likely that any modem suport is really of any importance to the developeres anymore.  it's all highspeed or else highspeed  or even maybe highspeed.
[04:49] <chapium> how well do ipods and ubuntus play with each other?
[04:50] <chapium> !bot
[04:50] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[04:50] <eobanb> chovy did you see the link i sent you
[04:50] <chapium> there he is
[04:50] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 do you know if your version of wpa_supplicant was compiled with ndiswrapper support
[04:51] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  no i do not
[04:51] <kinection> hello, how do I get ubuntu to detect the correct DNS servers on start up?
[04:51] <nickrud> intelikey, they are working on it, but it's the non-free drivers that are tripping them up.
[04:51] <newbies> insomnd, im already here, ive seen fingerfrints
[04:51] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 I think your output of "unsupported driver ndiswrapper" means it doesn't have it compiled in there
[04:51] <jordo23_> _jason: KDE, but it is hard for me to use KDE because it seems Gnome is the supported desktop by main distros (except Suse). At least from a business standpoint, there needs to be a standard, and it seems to me that if one was adopted now, it would be Gnome. KDE is more customizable though.
[04:51] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  is there a way to find out?
[04:51] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  oh
[04:52] <vinzone> what is ndiswrapper
[04:52] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 remove the apt package for wpa_supplicant and download the source for wpa_supplicant
[04:52] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/WPA
[04:52] <tritium> jordo23_: KDE is well-suppoprted on ubuntu...if you want to try it, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:52] <alejandrodelloco> bon832 that should walk you through it
[04:52] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 that should walk you through it
[04:53] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  alright, i've give that a try, thanks for the link
[04:53] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 no prob
[04:53] <jordo23_> tritium: I know its pretty well supported, but I am looking to invoke Ubuntu desktops into the company I work for.
[04:53] <gandhii> has anyone else have trouble with one's standard normal keyboard not working on the install?  using an nforce4 mb..  if thats relevant
[04:54] <tritium> jordo23_: okay, just making sure you were aware of kubuntu
[04:54] <mshade> ganadist, ps/2 or usb?
[04:54] <bob832> vinzone:  http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/
[04:54] <jordo23_> tritium: no prob. thanks. Kde rules!
[04:54] <bob832> vinzone:  bascially, a program that allows linux to use windows drivers
[04:55] <vinzone> how do i use it to let me use my wireless card on linux
[04:55] <alejandrodelloco> vinzone
[04:55] <alejandrodelloco> what kind of card
[04:55] <LoneWolf071> i accidently deleted /etc/apache2, how do i make a new one?
[04:56] <vinzone> linksys
[04:56] <vinzone> someone on forums said to use ndiswrapper
[04:56] <_jason> jordo23, a standard you say... that's going to be a touch fight
[04:56] <mshade> vinzone, check out ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net
[04:56] <QQ_ghost> has anyone here had problems compiling?
[04:56] <mshade> vinzone, there's a pretty thorough howto there
[04:56] <QQ_ghost> and over come them
[04:56] <chapium> Anyone use Banshee?
[04:56] <_jason> jordo23, tough even
[04:56] <tritium> mshade: ndiswrapper is packaged for ubuntu (available in the repos)
[04:56] <Hobbsee> QQ_ghost: what are you compiling?
[04:56] <chapium> how does it compair to rhythmbox
[04:56] <Milk_> anyone have experiance with tovid?  or maybe know how to get from the DVD file structure to a burned dvd?
[04:57] <techrush> i love you guys
[04:57] <bimberi> LoneWolf071: (guessing a bit here) sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2
[04:57] <QQ_ghost> Hobbsee: midnight commander
[04:57] <mshade> but there's a great howto at the ndiswrapper site :)
[04:57] <Kyral> !ndiswrapper
[04:57] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[04:57] <_jason> night guys
[04:57] <Hobbsee> QQ_ghost: pastebin the error?
[04:57] <alejandrodelloco> vinzone read everything on there
[04:57] <jordo23_> _jason: Yeah, Gnome would probably end up winning. Especially since it's pushed by Red Hat and Mandriva. (and Debian).
[04:57] <scott_> hey, sorry to interrupt, but how do i change the share settings on my printer so i can have it available to my whole samba network.
[04:57] <scott_> ?
[04:57] <intelikey> QQ_ghost why are you compiling mc ?
[04:58] <alejandrodelloco> vinzone http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[04:58] <Milk_> anybody?
[04:58] <MrFarts> the problem with KDE is that it's sloppy
[04:58] <QQ_ghost> Hobbsee: sometimes just love the CUI
[04:58] <MrFarts> gnome is bit limited, but at least it's more or less consistent
[04:58] <alejandrodelloco> scott would you consider print over ip or do you wanna use samba
[04:58] <intelikey> !info mc
[04:58] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: : sometimes just love the CUI
[04:58] <ubotu> mc: (midnight commander - a powerful file manager), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre4-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 2048 kB, Installed size: 5712 kB
[04:59] <LoneWolf071> bimberi, didn't do it...
[04:59] <bimberi> LoneWolf071: :( ('twas a guess)
[04:59] <LoneWolf071> bimberi, TY
[04:59] <intelikey> !start a desktop war
[05:00] <ubotu> kde is much better than xfce!
[05:00] <alejandrodelloco> heehee
[05:00] <nickrud> mmm, mc kicks nautilus's but
[05:00] <scott_> alejandrodelloco: i could use print over ip. i just want my networked computers to print from my local printer
[05:00] <intelikey> well who would argue that....
[05:00] <aztek> what's the command to see my mountable devices/partitions
[05:00] <LoneWolf071> ubotu, KDE Ropcks, except in terms of configuring
[05:00] <ubotu> LoneWolf071: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:00] <mshade> aztek, fdisk -l
[05:00] <jordo23_> Kde rules, but some people in my office would be too stupid to use it as a business desktop.
[05:00] <aztek> yea yea
[05:00] <aztek> thanks
[05:00] <nickrud> mc, mutt and vim, everything else is bloat :)
[05:00] <LoneWolf071> ubotu, ???
[05:00] <ubotu> LoneWolf071: I don't know
[05:00] <mshade> aztek, 'mount' by itself to see what's already mounted
[05:00] <aztek> i remembered the -l option but not the command :D
[05:01] <Yarou_> um guys, how do i get c compilers? i need to compile UnrealIRCd
[05:01] <tritium> Yarou_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:01] <Yarou_> ty
[05:01] <intelikey> aztek fdisk -l /dev/<blah>
[05:01] <MrFarts> jordo23, i found kde to be quite disappointing in certain respects
[05:01] <LoneWolf071> ubotu, i've tried to configure things like font size and it doesn't work very well
[05:01] <ubotu> LoneWolf071: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[05:01] <tritium> QQ_ghost: so you realize that mc is in the universe repo?
[05:01] <bimberi> ubotu tell LoneWolf071 about yourself
[05:01] <QQ_ghost> tritium: i do now. lol thanx people...
[05:01] <LoneWolf071> lol...
[05:01] <LoneWolf071> i just got it...
[05:02] <LoneWolf071> he's a bot
[05:02] <bimberi> LoneWolf071: :)
[05:02] <intelikey> :)
[05:02] <alejandrodelloco> See, I was trying not to embarrass you
[05:02] <alejandrodelloco> sheesh
[05:02] <QQ_ghost> LoneWolf071: :)
[05:02] <jordo23_> MrFarts:  which aspects?
[05:02] <Athena_Exclamati> hello, 1st time in this channel
[05:02] <alejandrodelloco> hello
[05:02] <MrFarts> jordo23, inconsistent, the applications are ugly
[05:02] <QQ_ghost> LoneWolf071: took me a while too...
[05:02] <La_PaRCa> hey kids
[05:02] <bimberi> hi Athena_Exclamati
[05:02] <MrFarts> jordo23, lots of bugs
[05:02] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  so far so good, quick question though, in the wpa_supplicant.conf file, should i put in things like:   protp=WPA      key_mgmt=WPA-PSk
[05:03] <mshade> i think kde is by far the most featureful DE... but it needs a bit of polish and it needs to be toned down a little.  too much clutter.
[05:03] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 try once without, then with
[05:03] <mshade> for example, i love ioslaves (fish:// et al)
[05:03] <Athena_Exclamati> could anyone give me some hints on how to install ubuntu on a pentium 100 (old machine)
[05:03] <mshade> and the integration is great
[05:03] <alejandrodelloco> bob832 I am not sure myself, so trial and error is your best freind
[05:03] <jordo23_> MrFarts: The applications are as ugly as you make them.
[05:03] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  lol
[05:03] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  ok
[05:03] <MrFarts> mshade, yeah, it's quite promising, but it doesn't feel very professional
[05:03] <nickrud> ioslaves almost make kde (ug) nice
[05:03] <MrFarts> jordo23, not really
[05:03] <La_PaRCa> Athena_Exclamati, I would go with a different distro.  Konq rules over Nautilus.
[05:04] <mshade> the QT filepicker is much nicer than the GTK counterpart, too
[05:04] <Athena_Exclamati> I habe dsl on this computer already but I wish to upgrade to a bigger distro
[05:04] <Metro> hey all....my fat32 HD (hdb1) won't mount. "mount -t vfat dev/hdb1 home/Desktop/Fat" tells me "mount point does not exist" although i just created the folder, and have root
[05:04] <mshade> konq *does* rule over nautilus
[05:05] <mshade> Metro, /home/Desktop/Fat
[05:05] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: how much disk & memory?
[05:05] <MrFarts> mshade, perhaps, but kde is a mess
[05:05] <mshade> Metro, gotta have that leading /
[05:05] <mshade> MrFarts, not so much a mess, as a haven of clutter
[05:05] <MrFarts> mshade, i gave the latest version a whirl a few days ago; went back to gnome
[05:05] <LoneWolf071> bimberi, nope, nothing
[05:05] <bimberi> LoneWolf071: k (i was less confident about that one anyway)
[05:05] <jordo23_> mshade: Depends how big  your monitor is :)
[05:05] <robotgeek> how much time does resizing a partition take? i have 30 GB resize to 15 GB, and have 768 MB ram :)
[05:06] <poimen> hi
[05:06] <mshade> jordo23, heh
[05:06] <EvilDucky-tm> Is there a version of ubuntu that will network install with only 16 MB of RAM?
[05:06] <QQ_ghost> Metro: why not just go to places menu then (that partition size here)
[05:06] <Athena_Exclamati> one hd with 10gb and another with 6gb as for memory I got 64 mb
[05:06] <Kyral> EvilDucky-tm: nope
[05:06] <mshade> jordo23, i have trouble running kde uncluttered on a dual-head setup
[05:06] <MrFarts> mshade, but that said, i really liked konsole and konqueror
[05:06] <mshade> jordo23, but i still *hate* gnome
[05:06] <Metro> mshade, that was in IRC typo....with leading /, same result
[05:06] <poimen> I have a old pentium 2 500 MHZ  with 128 of ram
[05:06] <jordo23_> mshade: then fix your resolution or something,
[05:06] <poimen> it will work ok with ubuntu?
[05:06] <EvilDucky-tm> Even Sarge needs 32 and Woody is reported to have problems.
[05:06] <intelikey> Athena_Exclamati you'll need about 1.4 g of hd space for ub to do what dsl is doing now.    but the 64m of ram will sure slow it down.
[05:06] <Athena_Exclamati> I am installing on the 10gb hd using 1500 mb with swap
[05:06] <MrFarts> poimen, define "work"
[05:06] <dabaR> Is this really a kde vs gnome discussion on #ubuntu?
[05:06] <Kyral> EvilDucky-tm: try PTYLinux
[05:06] <netdur> how to fix... Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:06] <mshade> Metro, give the exact command and error.. copy and paste it
[05:07] <dabaR> poimen: it should work. Look into xfce for a lightweight desktop environment if gnome is slow.
[05:07] <mshade> Metro, pm me if too much text
[05:07] <intelikey> poimen absolutly
[05:07] <poimen> MrFarts : well I will run video/ audio I can browese the net
[05:07] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: you could do a server install and then install xubuntu - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[05:07] <nickrud> poimen, that memory is too small for gnome, trust me :)
[05:07] <Metro> root@ubuntu:~# mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 /home/Desktop/Fat
[05:07] <Metro>        mount: mount point /home/Desktop/Fat does not exist
[05:07] <poimen> ok
[05:07] <poimen> fluxbox
[05:07] <poimen> ?
[05:07] <intelikey> poimen with that hardware there is nothing linux that you cant run.
[05:07] <Athena_Exclamati> yes but as ub has a smaller graphic environ as gnome I was hoping that it would run smoothly :)
[05:07] <dabaR> Metro: create the directory
[05:07] <EvilDucky-tm> I need a linux o/s for an old laptop -- it must netinst, and have printer drivers, usb, and acpi included
[05:07] <poimen> vs xfce?
[05:07] <nickrud> it'll fit nicely
[05:08] <MrFarts> poimen, yes
[05:08] <shadow98> or icewm is light to
[05:08] <intelikey> poimen even gnome will be fine on it.
[05:08] <poimen> :)
[05:08] <Metro> the Fat directory is on my desktop
[05:08] <dabaR> intelikey: linux is the kernel, some software is gnu, some is X, and so on, and the distro is Ubuntu.
[05:08] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: k, give it a try then :)
[05:08] <Metro> has been
[05:08] <MrFarts> poimen, but not comfortably with gnome
[05:08] <nickrud> swap, swap, swap with 128
[05:08] <EvilDucky-tm> Kyral, I've never heard of PTYLinux
[05:08] <mshade> Metro, ls -ld /home/Desktop/Fat
[05:08] <Kyral> EvilDucky-tm: not many people have
[05:08] <root_> hi
[05:08] <MrFarts> poimen, can you buy some more ram ?
[05:08] <intelikey> thanks for the lecture dabar.
[05:09] <dabaR> sure
[05:09] <EvilDucky-tm> ANything you care to tell me before I go lycos or hotbot it?
[05:09] <root_> anyone can help me ?
[05:09] <poimen> I can replace the 128 for a 256 tomorow
[05:09] <Athena_Exclamati> but the problem is that it does not run the x windows system it makes the screen go crazy!
[05:09] <intelikey> nickrud no it wont
[05:09] <MrFarts> EvilDucky-tm, yes, use google instead ;P
[05:09] <EvilDucky-tm> Kyral from the end-luser perspective
[05:09] <QQ_ghost> root: wassup?
[05:09] <MrFarts> poimen, that will help quite a bit
[05:09] <Kyral> EvilDucky-tm: its basically terminal and thats it
[05:09] <nickrud> poimen, I ran gnome on a 256M 466, and it went fine
[05:09] <EvilDucky-tm> MrFarts, j00 r pHu|\|33
[05:09] <landotter> xfce4 takes a couple megs more memory than flux, and offers soooo many more features.
[05:09] <MrFarts> EvilDucky-tm, pardon ?
[05:09] <EvilDucky-tm> Kyral -- I need something like Debian
[05:10] <mshade> landotter, yeah, but flux is just cool.
[05:10] <Kyral> EvilDucky-tm: *Shrug*
[05:10] <Metro> root@ubuntu:~# ls -ld /home/Desktop/Fat
[05:10] <Metro> ls: /home/Desktop/Fat: No such file or directory
[05:10] <poimen> ok install finished :) ( lol I asked when the install was almost done :)
[05:10] <QQ_ghost> root_: wassup?
[05:10] <MrFarts> what exactly is xfce ?
[05:10] <EvilDucky-tm> MrFarts, what's teh matter, don't you speak plain l33t?
[05:10] <dabaR> EvilDucky-tm: debian is quiwe similar to debian.
[05:10] <Metro> but i am looking at the folder on my desktop
[05:10] <mshade> xfce is the 'cholesterol free' environment.  who wants a desktop that's not l33t, without fat?
[05:10] <tritium> MrFarts: apt-cache show xfce
[05:10] <dabaR> ubotu: tell MrFarts about windowmanagers
[05:10] <nickrud> intelikey, well, maybe gnome alone, but as soon as I had gimp and ooffice running, I started feeling the swap :)
[05:10] <MrFarts> dabaR, gnome is not a window manager
[05:10] <EvilDucky-tm> dabaR, it is -- heh?!?   =P
[05:10] <shadow98> i dont remember ubuntu asking for root password during install...is this correct?
[05:10] <root_> kernel panic unable to mount root fs on unknow block (0,0)  how can i solve this problem
[05:10] <landotter> mshade, I do xfce-xfce panel+fbpanel very cool!
[05:10] <tritium> MrFarts: xfce4, rather
[05:10] <intelikey> poimen i ran ubuntu with kde on a p133mmx with 64m ram.  it did swap a little. and you had to not multi-task needlessly but it ran fine.
[05:10] <EvilDucky-tm> (Who's have thunk it?)
[05:10] <poimen> I have a Pentium D 3.0 ghz running ubuntu :D and I got this PC from a friend because he was going to take the system to the tash
[05:11] <dabaR> MrFarts: regardless ubotu has that as his factoid. read the link, it is cool.
[05:11] <QQ_ghost> root_: when do you get the error?
[05:11] <mshade> landotter, i do flux + CLI :) unstoppable
[05:11] <root_> when i compile a new kernel
[05:11] <intelikey> nickrud oo maybe.  gimp if the image is very larg yes. but you could overload any system if you tried to.
[05:11] <MrFarts> dabaR, i read that link... about 8 years ago
[05:11] <poimen> trash*   so I want this 500<MHZ pc to play with things I dont kwon what I want it for lol
[05:11] <root_> <IP_ADDRESS> from kernel.org
[05:11] <EvilDucky-tm> root_, what platform are you installing on -- Ubuntu installer is know for it's buggy ACPI routing issues
[05:11] <root_> ubuntu
[05:12] <poimen> brb going to hook the network to the other 500Mhz
[05:12] <root_> amd athlon 2200+
[05:12] <bimberi> shadow98: that's right, ubuntu uses sudo and the root password is disabled
[05:12] <dabaR> did you ask what xfce is? it is shown there.
[05:12] <EvilDucky-tm> root_, 'platform' means hardware
[05:12] <QQ_ghost> root_: are you redoing the initrd as well?
[05:12] <Athena_Exclamati> [bimberi] : as i said I am using dsl currently but I am stuck to the additional program only provided by the distro, I mean if I want to install Open Office 2.0 It gives only the 1.0.4 version that is obsolete.
[05:12] <bimberi> shadow98: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:12] <jordo23_> MrFarts: Can you recommend  me some cool Gnome apps?
[05:12] <dabaR> MrFarts: they added xfce since then?
[05:12] <shadow98> how do i know what root password is on ubuntu
[05:12] <EvilDucky-tm> root_, it's the motherboard chipset I'm asking about -- for instance is it a laptop?
[05:12] <Yarou_> man i'm getting a lot of errors when trying to compile Unreal
[05:12] <robotgeek> ubotu: tekk shadow98 about root
[05:12] <ubotu> robotgeek: I give up, what is it?
[05:12] <MrFarts> jordo23, for doing what ?
[05:12] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell shadow98 about root
[05:13] <MrFarts> dabaR, if xfce a window manager ?
[05:13] <nickrud> intelikey, yes, I was very much open this, close that, and it got to be too much. Interfered with my flow, you know?
[05:13] <MrFarts> it looks like another desktop environment
[05:13] <root_> QQ_ghost root_: are you redoing the initrd as well?................it says that i need cramfs patch to get a initrd that works
[05:13] <Metro> shadow, root pw is the password for the first account you created during install
[05:13] <MrFarts> based on gtk
[05:13] <dabaR> MrFarts: that page and what tritium told you tell you all about it. a de.
[05:13] <jordo23_> MrFarts: Didn't have anything in mind....for developement or programming built using GTK maybe?
[05:13] <root_> nop isnt a laptop
[05:13] <EvilDucky-tm> ahhh... sooo...
[05:13] <root_> desktop
[05:13] <intelikey> no i don't know.   have no idea what you do with your computer.....
[05:13] <shadow98> should i set one?
[05:14] <Yarou_> super saiyan
[05:14] <tritium> Metro: not exactly...the first user setup has sudo priveleges
[05:14] <tritium> shadow98: no need...use sudo (read the wiki page for details)
[05:14] <Yarou> yay time to hope
[05:14] <MrFarts> dabaR, try anjuta
[05:14] <Yarou> *hop
[05:14] <EvilDucky-tm> Sounds like you're on the right trakc -- I though maybe --nolapic | noapic might help if the block error is caused by misrouting of HDD controllers
[05:14] <root_> EvilDucky-tm root_, it's the motherboard chipset I'm asking about -- for instance is it a laptop?.........desktop pc
[05:14] <nickrud> intelikey, no problem, I usually have several spreadsheets, maps I'm touching up in gimp, maybe a letter or two I'm composing. Plus a movie in the background :)
[05:14] <robotgeek> What's the difference between erase entire disk and "erase entire disk and use LVM"
[05:14] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: k - but you've tried ubuntu and X isn't working?
[05:15] <dabaR> MrFarts: for what? i may some time soon, is that related to our convo?
[05:15] <intelikey> metro !root
[05:15] <root_>  msi kt6 delta
[05:15] <QQ_ghost> root_: it's been too long since i compiled a kernel (was on slackware anyway)
[05:15] <Athena_Exclamati> yes, that is what happened
[05:15] <MrFarts> dabaR, sorry, wrong person. it's an IDE for gtk/gnome
[05:15] <tritium> robotgeek: the latter sets up LVM
[05:15] <MrFarts> jordo23, try anjuta
[05:15] <EvilDucky-tm> root_, you don't have to repeat -- if I don't understand or see an answer I can ask for clarification
[05:15] <bimberi> robotgeek: the former just creates an ext3 paritition
[05:15] <MrFarts> ok, someone tell me what makes "xfce" lighter than gnome ?
[05:15] <root_> k
[05:16] <MrFarts> and what does it lose in the process
[05:16] <Athena_Exclamati> the installation finished but when I tried to run it it wouldnt show the graphic environment
[05:16] <MrFarts> er "lighter"
[05:16] <intelikey> and spend 80% of your time reading/writing irc nickrud hehhe
[05:16] <dabaR> MrFarts: ya, I thought it was for someone else, that is ok, Ive been meaning to try anjuta for some time now, though.
[05:16] <robotgeek> tritium: does it make any difference on a fresh install?
[05:16] <nickrud> intelikey, that's a secret :)
[05:16] <poimen_> heh
[05:16] <poimen_> itwirks
[05:16] <poimen_> slow as h*****
[05:16] <poimen_> but isworks
[05:17] <dabaR> poimen_: ya, like we said, try something lighter than gnome.
[05:17] <shadow98> bitchx is not found
[05:17] <root_> xfce works fine
[05:17] <tritium> robotgeek: yes.  DO you intend to use LVM?
[05:17] <poimen_> I will take xfce for a ride
[05:17] <root_> but i dont like the file manager
[05:17] <poimen_> lets see
[05:17] <intelikey> shadow98 install it.
[05:17] <nickrud> MrFarts, usually it means it uses less memory, and expects you to do a lot more setup and know more details about your system. Lightwieght on the machine is heavyweight on your time (at first)
[05:17] <robotgeek> tritium: any links where i can read about what it means? or you can tell me
[05:17] <dabaR> root_: I don't like anything about it, but that is unrelated.
[05:18] <intelikey> !info bitchx
[05:18] <shadow98> says ots not foud
[05:18] <poimen_> doing a apt-get upgrade fisrt :D
[05:18] <ubotu> bitchx: (Advanced Internet Relay Chat client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:1.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1466 kB, Installed size: 6484 kB
[05:18] <tritium> robotgeek: probably the best info is on tldp.org
[05:18] <tritium> shadow98: it's in universe
[05:18] <Metro> bash is not recognizing a directory i created in nautilus...is this normal?
[05:18] <MrFarts> nickrud, i'm nor asking about "usually" -- i'm asking about xfce in particular
[05:18] <MrFarts> it seems to be completely gui driven so that would not appear to be it
[05:18] <intelikey> Metro pebcak
[05:18] <nickrud> MrFarts, well, that's also true about xfce.
[05:19] <QQ_ghost> i'm having modem problems...
[05:19] <shadow98> sudo apt-get install bitchx could find package
[05:19] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: k, you could check to see if your VideoCard (and any installation hints) is listed here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[05:19] <poimen_> apt-get install xfce
[05:19] <poimen_> Reading package lists... Done
[05:19] <poimen_> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:19] <poimen_> E: Couldn't find package xfce
[05:19] <nickrud> Metro, no, it's not
[05:19] <tritium> !tell shadow98 about repositories
[05:19] <tritium> poimen_: please don't paste
[05:19] <poimen_> sorry :P
[05:19] <nickrud> !tell poimen about repositories
[05:19] <dabaR> poimen_: enable universe.
[05:19] <tritium> poimen_: the package name is xfce4...learn to use apt-cache search <search term>
[05:19] <robotgeek> tritium: it looks good, i'm going to go with it
[05:19] <tritium> robotgeek: good luck with it
[05:19] <robotgeek> tritium: hmm, thanks
[05:20] <Metro> okay, so mi new to linux, how do i create directories in bash?
[05:20] <Athena_Exclamati> bimberi thanks a lot pal! much appreciated here by this brazilian friend :)
[05:20] <shadow98> tritium: i have http://us.archive.ubuntu.com in sources list do i need more
[05:20] <poimen_> INstalling xfce thankx guys
[05:20] <nickrud> Metro, mkdir <dir>
[05:20] <Athena_Exclamati> I will give it a try
[05:20] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: np, good luck :)
[05:20] <Metro> thank you
[05:20] <intelikey> Metro man mkdir
[05:20] <nickrud> !tell Metro about cli
[05:21] <intelikey> Metro being new to linux.    run this command     man man
[05:21] <Athena_Exclamati> is bimberi a italian name? at least it sounds like one, where are you from, pal?
[05:21] <tritium> shadow98: make sure you've updated your package list (sudo apt-get update, or use synaptic)
[05:22] <shadow98> tritium: i installed base system and i did an apt-get update
[05:22] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: no, I'm Australian - my nick is unrelated to my name :)
[05:22] <dabaR> Hah, I am a nazi all the way.
[05:22] <Metro> ty
[05:22] <bob832> alejandrodelloco:  ran into a problem, here is the output and my conf file:  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/XVKInd42.html
[05:22] <hardbop200> hello all - can anyone tell me why I would need LVM on a desktop machine?
[05:22] <tritium> shadow98: did you enable the universe repo?
[05:22] <QQ_ghost> am i the only one here that has the intension of putting my modem to use? lol... i need help
[05:22] <hardbop200> I see the service on bootup, but don't know why I would need it...
[05:23] <poimen_> firefox is the lighter grafical net-explorer  ??
[05:23] <Athena_Exclamati> he he he, I knew it was a good friend from down under as you aussie say it, talking about australia there is a nice small distro called puppy linux from a countryfellow of yours!
[05:23] <shadow98> tritium: how do you do that
[05:24] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: you seem to be an expert on small distros - for good reason :)
[05:24] <nickrud> :)
[05:24] <keythumper> firefox is similar to Mozilla
[05:24] <Madpilot> intelikey: man intro is more readable than man man
[05:24] <Athena_Exclamati> got a pre historic machine he he he
[05:25] <bimberi> nickrud: did you tell her to rtfm? :P
[05:25] <poimen_> Ikwon I use firefoxbut I mean there is something that runs faster than him?
[05:25] <intelikey> hmmm Madpilot no such page here...
[05:25] <poimen_> or this hardware
[05:25] <poimen_> on*
[05:25] <tritium> shadow98: I had ubotu tell you how
[05:25] <nickrud> hm, I left home, lets see, 31 years ago :)
[05:25] <tritium> !tell shadow98 about repositories
[05:25] <dabaR> poimen_: try epiphany, maybe ut is better.
[05:26] <Madpilot> intelikey: "man intro" - not on your machine? I thought it was standard...
[05:26] <dabaR> shadow98: you can also try http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[05:26] <nickrud> bimberi, she saw man man :)
[05:26] <bimberi> lol
[05:26] <Athena_Exclamati> the problem with the australian distro is that its creator does not offer a brazilian keyboard layout configuration, and I consider myself a layman in setting up the hard way!
[05:26] <Madpilot> poimen: some people say Opera runs faster
[05:26] <intelikey> Madpilot standard what ?
[05:26] <Madpilot> !opera
[05:26] <ubotu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[05:27] <nickrud> dabaR, well, I'm sure she found my playboys once, I'd swear they'd been moved
[05:27] <Totino> oo playboy
[05:27] <root_> mm
[05:27] <poimen_> ok
[05:27] <QQ_ghost> !tell QQ_ghost modem
[05:27] <poimen_> brb going to log in into xfce
[05:27] <Totino> ever find her play girls?
[05:28] <root_> openbox
[05:28] <dabaR> Madpilot: is opera free software?
[05:28] <root_> nop
[05:28] <Totino> yes it is
[05:28] <root_> isnt it
[05:28] <Totino> the released it free
[05:28] <Totino> *they
[05:28] <root_> freeware
[05:28] <dabaR> Totino: with the source code?
[05:28] <root_> but no opensource
[05:29] <Totino> no source code
[05:29] <Totino> but it is free
[05:29] <Totino> http://www.opera.com/
[05:29] <dabaR> Totino: no, I mean, free as in rms.
[05:29] <shadow98> !sources
[05:29] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:29] <nickrud> anyone have a good one liner describing dfsg?
[05:29] <poimen_> wow
[05:29] <Totino> who?
[05:29] <poimen_> xfce is very nice never used it
[05:30] <Madpilot> dabaR: free as in beer only - and I think we've had this discussion before ;)
[05:30] <SEJeff> nickrud: free software nazis?
[05:30] <dabaR> Madpilot: I have bad memory.
[05:30] <QQ_ghost> intelikey: i just today got device manager to recognize the darn thing... just looking for the config stuff...
[05:30] <nickrud> SEJeff, the ones that lead the charge, maybe.
[05:30] <Knowerrors> where is a good irc for asking about tv tuner cards and programs on linux?
[05:30] <nickrud> SEJeff, oh, doh :)
[05:30] <Athena_Exclamati> not going to squander your precious time australian pal, thanks a bunch! God bless you and dear ones. merry christmas and a happy new year in advance!
[05:31] <Totino> and happy holidays for the politically correct bitches
[05:31] <Athena_Exclamati> have a nice day mate!
[05:31] <bimberi> Athena_Exclamati: thanks, and to you too :)
[05:31] <dabaR> Athena_Exclamati: to you too.  It is a public plan.
[05:36] <dabaR>  I had some trouble insatlling ubuntu on a 160GB drive today, with an empty partition which was unformatted for the first 150GB, and then I had /, and then /home, then swap. It failed to install grub. Does anyone have some insight into whether it is possible to have such large empty unformatted partitions on the beginning of the HD, and still install grub?
[05:36] <QQ_ghost> where would i find info on this .plan?
[05:37] <dabaR> well, basically, it gets displayed when you finger a user of the machine, and it is stored in the .plan file.
[05:37] <kspath> QQ_ghost: you can have an empty .plan if you do not want to share any info yet avoid the message
[05:38] <SEJeff> QQ_ghost: touch ~/.plan
[05:38] <QQ_ghost> dabaR: do you have "virus protection on" in your bios? it would keep grub from installing to the mbr...?
[05:38] <kspath> .plan is from a day long past when  everyone had a shell and there was no www http
[05:38] <shadow98> how in the hell am i supposed to edit sources.list if i have to use sudo
[05:38] <rzzi> hi dear
[05:38] <shadow98> it didn't ask me for password for root
[05:38] <tritium> shadow98: with sudo
[05:39] <QQ_ghost> kspath: SEJeff: thanx you two, but what about the contents?
[05:39] <tritium> !tell shadow98 about rootsudo
[05:39] <SEJeff> shadow98: Use your user password
[05:39] <dabaR> QQ_ghost: it actually worked after, when I chose to install to whole HD, and I used a breezy preview install CD instead of Hoary.
[05:39] <kspath> shadow98: it is your password
[05:39] <Madpilot> shadow98: "sudo gedit <whatever>"
[05:39] <tritium> shadow98: and calm down...
[05:39] <SEJeff> QQ_ghost: .plan is deprecated for the most part and so is finger really.
[05:39] <kspath> QQ_ghost: try  echo "" >> ~/.plan
[05:39] <SEJeff> kspath: touch ~/.plan is shorter :-P
[05:40] <rzzi> help me plz when i m dialing internet via wvdial command its initializing modem sending ATZ then re sending ATQ and gives mesg modem not responding whts the problem help me.
[05:40] <kspath> :-P~
[05:40] <rzzi> help me plz when i m dialing internet via wvdial command its initializing modem sending ATZ then re sending ATQ and gives mesg modem not responding whts the problem help me.
[05:40] <QQ_ghost> kspath: SEJeff: so it's just a text "motd" style of file?
[05:40] <SEJeff> QQ_ghost: yeah
[05:41] <rzzi> help me plz when i m dialing internet via wvdial command its initializing modem sending ATZ then re sending ATQ and gives mesg modem not responding whts the problem help me.
[05:41] <kspath> QQ_ghost: old days almost everything was raw text  except wtmp
[05:41] <warreng> can anybody help me with an exim config?
[05:41] <QQ_ghost> kspath: SEJeff: i like giving the users the finger... lol
[05:41] <shadow98> i give up
[05:42] <dabaR> shadow98: you should have tried my page.
[05:42] <rzzi> help me plz when i m dialing internet via wvdial command its initializing modem sending ATZ then re sending ATQ and gives mesg modem not responding whts the problem help me.
[05:42] <dabaR> It is nice, and gui.
[05:42] <dabaR> shadow98: and actually teaches you how to install packages on Ubuntu in a simple way.
[05:42] <nickrud> rzzi, you need to provide some more info; like what kind of modem you have, and, please, don't repeat so much.
[05:42] <dabaR> shadow98: would you like the link again?
[05:42] <kspath> rzzi: modem powered on?
[05:42] <tritium> shadow98: read the URL I had ubotu send you
[05:42] <shadow98> i just can't belive its this hard to edit a file
[05:42] <shadow98> i read it
[05:43] <shadow98> i tried sudo -s
[05:43] <dabaR> shadow98: not hard, just hard for you to learn.
[05:43] <kspath> rzzi: is the software trying the right device/port?
[05:43] <rzzi> yes
[05:43] <rzzi> internel modem
[05:43] <mshade> shadow98, su bash
[05:43] <kspath> rzzi: is the port set to the right speed
[05:43] <mshade> shadow98, sudo bash , rather
[05:43] <rzzi> everything is good
[05:43] <kspath> rzzi: like 38400 8 n 1 and so on
[05:43] <mshade> then do as you please
[05:43] <warreng> can somebody help me with a exim config problem? i have it setup so it saves mail locally for a bunch of domains (via "domains = dsearch;/domains" and "data = /domains/$domain/mail/$local_part/" and so on).... but the problem is it accepts mail for ALL users at that domain and just creates maildir's... how would i make it check a passwd file for a domain to ENSURE that the user exists.. and if it doesn't, bounce the mail saying "inv
[05:43] <kspath> rzzi: cable is ok?
[05:43] <mrkoje> shadow what are you trying to edit
[05:43] <shadow98> uknown id
[05:43] <tritium> mshade: no, sudo -s is fine (so is sudo -i)
[05:43] <rzzi> yes dear what i believe is ok
[05:44] <shadow98> mrkoje: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:44] <rzzi> actually i m new on ubuntu.
[05:44] <silentj> hello, i'm attempting my maiden install of ubuntu (first linux user), I burned breezy badger, booted from it, finished the first part of the installation and then reboot to continue installing packages, everything was going fine then it switched from the progress bar screen to a screen filled with weird configuration values, i can't tell if it's still installing packages or if its waiting for input, is this normal?
[05:44] <tritium> shadow98: did you give your password when you tried sudo -s?
[05:44] <mrkoje> shadow98,  thats easy to edit
[05:44] <shadow98> sudo bash gives me uknown id: bash
[05:44] <kspath> rzzi: did you try powering off modem for 5-10 seconds and on again and trying again?
[05:44] <mrkoje> shadow98,  sudu vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:44] <dabaR> silentj: wait for a while to find out, I think.
[05:44] <mrkoje> shadow98,  you will need to read up on how to use vim  / vi
[05:44] <rzzi> kspath modem is internel so when i shutdown pc its power off
[05:44] <callie> Im looking for a p2p client that isnt slow as hell, any suggestionns guys?
[05:44] <ala> silentj:  insert ur ubuntu CD for it to finish installing the OS
[05:45] <kspath> rzzi: not necessarily
[05:45] <shadow98> mrkoje: keeps asking for password
[05:45] <mrkoje> shadow98,  you need to use sudo
[05:45] <kspath> rzzi: many network cards keep power
[05:45] <shadow98> i did
[05:45] <mrkoje> shadow98,  then the password is your sudo password that you set up when you installed
[05:45] <kspath> rzzi: it is a crap winmodem?
[05:45] <rzzi> kspath: tell me onething how i would know that my modem is properly installed and configured
[05:45] <shadow98> mrkoje: it never asked me for one
[05:45] <silentj> ala, thanks alot, i've been waiting for about 15 minutes now with nothing happening, after i reinsert the ubuntu cd do I have to enter anything?
[05:45] <dabaR> shadow98: why are you trying to use command line, do you not have a GUI installed yet?
[05:46] <Madpilot> mrkoje & shadow98: if you've got GUI, do "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" - if no GUI, then "sudo nano..." - nano is far easier to use than vim...
[05:46] <shadow98> only password i typed in was for regurler user
[05:46] <kspath> rzzi: I do not know   internal modems are a no no unless from a VERY VERY VERY good company
[05:46] <shadow98> dabaR: no i installed base system
[05:46] <rzzi> its HSF 56 CONNEXANT MODEM
[05:46] <Madpilot> shadow98: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:46] <ala> silentj:  if i remember right you need to press enter....read the last two lines on the "weird screen"
[05:46] <shadow98> madpilot: been there doesn't help
[05:46] <rzzi> KSPATH: PLZ TELL ME THE RIGHT WAY TO CHECK MODEM INSTALLED AND CONFIGURED
[05:46] <kspath> rzzi: I do not know that one    I am out of touch with modems   havent used one for years almost
[05:46] <silentj> ok, brb
[05:47] <rzzi> how i m gonna know i have win modem
[05:47] <dabaR> shadow98: well, you can try nano. "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and then enter your own password.
[05:47] <kspath> rzzi: there is a term program for linux/unix  forget the name
[05:47] <nickrud> rzzi, that's a winmodem :)
[05:47] <shadow98> i guess sudo is using my regular user password
[05:47] <kakei> hey guys help me i deleted chroot with sudo rm -r /chroot and my system now wont work fine
[05:47] <kspath> rzzi: unfortunately most companies throw winmodems in
[05:47] <rzzi> kspath how can i use this modem in linux
[05:47] <tritium> shadow98: yes, if you had read the wiki page, or paid attention to us, you'd know that already
[05:48] <rzzi> kspath: how can i use this modem in unbuntu
[05:48] <kspath> rzzi: sorry I am not the best person to ask       ask again for anyone that connects with a  non-dsl  non-cable  non-isdn modem to help you
[05:48] <rzzi> ubuntu
[05:48] <shadow98> finnaly got bitchx
[05:48] <Madpilot> shadow98: that's exactly how sudo works...
[05:48] <kspath> rzzi: the issue is not ubuntu
[05:48] <silentj> the last two lines say: [429817.983000]  Code: 60 8b 53 etc etc etc then on line 2 [429817.983000]  and some more double digits
[05:48] <RiverRat> shadow98: The concept of sudo is that you don't NEED to hand out root's password.
[05:48] <shadow98> now lynx
[05:49] <kspath> rzzi: there is a set of skills for dealing with internal modems   especially  win modems
[05:49] <ala> when u inserted ur cd and pressed enter, what happened?
[05:49] <silentj> i didn't try that yet, i'll do that right now
[05:49] <kspath> rzzi: it isnt too hard
[05:49] <shadow98> just a little different and one more command i have to type
[05:49] <tritium> shadow98: if you use sudo -s, you don't have to repeatedly precede commands with "sudo"
[05:50] <kspath> rzzi: you need a 56K modem user to help you    many here are likely on dsl,cable,isdn, or ethernet
[05:50] <rzzi> ok
[05:50] <rzzi> allright my man.
[05:50] <kakei> hey guys help me i deleted chroot with sudo rm -r /chroot and my system now wont work fine
[05:50] <nickrud> rzzi, you might want to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto?action=show&redirect=forum%2Fhardware%2FConexant#head-0164869cfd1c39a2bdff939835094630ba26bdef
[05:50] <nickrud> rzzi, your mileage may vary
[05:50] <rzzi> appreciated
[05:51] <kspath> rzzi: I will research a bit for you    note there is a REALLY good modem site on the net a former co-worker of mine runs  I will find the URL for you
[05:51] <silentj> ok, i reinserted the cd and pressed enter and nothing happened
[05:51] <rzzi> appreciated
[05:51] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello ppl
[05:51] <rzzi> u r the man
[05:51] <RiverRat> tritium: That defeats the logging of each command that sudo executes though.
[05:51] <ala> so no where on the screen does it ask you to insert the ubuntu cd to continue?
[05:51] <tritium> RiverRat: I didn't say I recommended it
[05:52] <dabaR> silentj: ya, that is not how it works abnyhow, I dont know where you got that from, ala.
[05:52] <kspath> www.modemhelp.net
[05:52] <dabaR> silentj: just reboot, if it is stuck, not many other options left.
[05:52] <RiverRat> tritium: I noticed that your users only read about every 4th word in here too.
[05:52] <silentj> No, there's no cursor anywhere waiting for input, the last thing i saq appear on the screen was "preparing dc" and then it seemed to freeze
[05:52] <l3oddah> hi, can anyone help with gnoppix?
[05:53] <kspath> rzzi: www.modemhelp.net is not linux or ubuntu specific but it has tons of info on modems
[05:53] <d03boy> test
[05:53] <rzzi> thanx
[05:53] <rzzi> u r the man
[05:53] <ala> hhmmm...thats beyond me...sorry
[05:53] <Madpilot> nickrud & rzzi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto is exactly the same URL, but much easier ;)
[05:53] <kspath> rzzi: if you combine that with the ubuntu and other help pages you are covered
[05:53] <tritium> RiverRat: usually that's not the case, actually.  We have a great community.
[05:53] <Inf3ctedFx> I have to video cards in my pc, both Nvidia, and I have to monitors connected but one of them is not showing anything
[05:53] <Inf3ctedFx> any ideas?
[05:53] <l3oddah> i'm trying to install to hard disk and i can't seem to find any installer for it, does anyone know?
[05:53] <dabaR> l3oddah: do they have a channel on freenode?
[05:53] <d03boy> if you know how to find the Estimate value x_k and Expected y_k value for a linear regression pm me
[05:54] <nickrud> Madpilot, it's the table of contents link, but moinmoin is ugly :)
[05:54] <tritium> d03boy: that's highly offtopic here.  Please do your own homework
[05:54] <silentj> ok, this is the second time this happened, last time i hit ctrl+alt+del from this weird screen and it rebooted, on reboot it said that some of the packages weren't installed properly and that i need to do them manually, then it loaded a console window with a login prompt
[05:54] <rzzi> Madpilot: thanx dear
[05:54] <chefnate> can someone tell me why i cant type numbers into the console?
[05:54] <d03boy> tritium, sorry, I didnt think /amsg would send to all srevers...
[05:54] <RiverRat> tritium: Yeah, you have a pretty good reputation for that.  Gentoo's is pretty good too but we have the occasional person that doesn't listen.  How is your spam bot problem?  I think lilo's latest patch shut them down.  #gentoo has been bot free lately.
[05:54] <kspath> glad about FAQs and guides and web sites and wikis    did not want to try to explain AT commands
[05:55] <tritium> RiverRat: it varies.  lilo is great at taking care of us too
[05:56] <RiverRat> We have been completely clean for the last few days, thanks to that patch.  Anyway I'm just exploring channels with my +u.  :)
[05:56] <tritium> you're always welcome here, RiverRat
[05:56] <RiverRat> thanks.  The +u is temporary though as I usually can't join 40+ channels.
[05:57] <Inf3ctedFx> HOw can I make two monitors working on ubuntu with 2 video cards?? do I have to edit something on the Xconfig?
[05:57] <QQ_ghost> does anyone know how to test a modem without dialing?
[05:57] <chefnate> i just installed ubuntu for the first time...extreme noob here
[05:57] <nickrud> I've always had a hardware modem until recently, I do hate winmodems
[05:57] <mshade> QQ_ghost, see if it responds to the init string
[05:57] <dabaR> silentj: log in, then, and run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:58] <dabaR> chefnate: just how we like em.
[05:58] <chefnate> how do i type numbers into the console? they dont show up
[05:58] <silentj> thanks alot dabaR, I'll try that
[05:58] <Inf3ctedFx> did u check ur NumLock key chefnate ?
[05:58] <tritium> chefnate: do you need to hit numlock?
[05:58] <QQ_ghost> mshade: like "echo ATZ>> /dev/modem"?
[05:58] <dabaR> chefnate: they should just show up. Give us more specific info, descriptive.
[05:58] <mshade> QQ_ghost, basically
[05:58] <chefnate> ya
[05:58] <chefnate> checked numlock
[05:59] <Inf3ctedFx> if u type numbers it wont show up?
[05:59] <RiverRat> Inf3ctedFx: xinerama?
[05:59] <khermans> I am watching King Kong, it kinda sucks huh?
[05:59] <Madpilot> chefnate: do the regular number keys - not the numpad - work in terminal?
[05:59] <dabaR> khermans: did you expect a good hollywood movie?
[05:59] <khermans> It's should be called like Jurassic Park 5
[05:59] <mrkoje> khermans,  you like it or not?
[05:59] <chefnate> trying to type my password and i cant  type numbers...with numlock on or off
[05:59] <mrkoje> khermans, `i take that as a no
[05:59] <khermans> dabaR, i never expect anything good -- im waiting for Syriana
[06:00] <khermans> thats supposed to be great
[06:00] <khermans> i love ubuntu
[06:00] <Inf3ctedFx> chefnate, when u type ur pass u never see it
[06:00] <Inf3ctedFx> thats normal
[06:00] <Inf3ctedFx> :)
[06:00] <Inf3ctedFx> are u trying to use sudo?
[06:01] <chefnate> no astrisks show up either
[06:01] <tritium> khermans: you are watching it now?  Where are you?
[06:01] <Inf3ctedFx> nope chefnate
[06:01] <dabaR> khermans: here are some of my favorites: Amelie, Motorcycle diaries, moulin rouge, save the green planet(hard to find). Well, I could go on with the hard to finds, but that is not much use, the ones I told you you can puick up in a vid store.
[06:01] <chefnate> hey, thanks
[06:01] <Inf3ctedFx> what r u trying to do chefnate ?
[06:01] <chefnate> prob solved
[06:02] <RiverRat> Inf3ctedFx: xinerama should do the 2 monitor thing.
[06:02] <chefnate> trying to instal vlc
[06:02] <kspath> rzzi: minicom is the application I was trying to remember for testing your modem with  problem is you would have to have some knowledge but maybe note it for future
[06:02] <QQ_ghost> mshade: ~$ sudo echo ATZ >> /dev/ttyS5
[06:02] <Inf3ctedFx> xinerama? RiverRat whats that?
[06:02] <chefnate> i guess i'm supposed to type in sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:02] <QQ_ghost> mshade: like that?
[06:02] <dewdude> i can't seem to get my audigy2 working..or at least get any kind of sound out of it
[06:02] <RiverRat> xinerama - Add support for the xinerama X11 extension, which allows you to stretch your display across multiple monitors
[06:03] <chefnate> it says it couldnt find package
[06:03] <Inf3ctedFx> ok  RiverRat do u know any web whti more info so I can make this god dam thing work? lol
[06:03] <kspath> xinerama works quite well  I had it working with 3 monitors set to 1600x1200 32bit  it was sweet
[06:03] <Badm4n> i have question... can i use apt-get install irsii ? if yes ...what is the irsii's packaged name ?
[06:04] <Kyral> Badm4n: irssi
[06:04] <mobilhimers> apt-cache search irssi
[06:04] <dabaR> Badm4n: it comes with ubuntu normally.
[06:04] <Kyral> err
[06:04] <Inf3ctedFx> Badm4n, look for it on Synaptic
[06:04] <Badm4n> i c
[06:04] <RiverRat> Inf3ctedFx: I only have 1 monitor so I've never done it.  Perhaps there is a #ubuntu-desktop channel or something like that.  If not then try #<desktop> or Google.
[06:04] <Kyral> irssi-text
[06:04] <chefnate> can someone help me instal vlc?
[06:04] <mobilhimers> i think it was called something slightly different
[06:04] <mobilhimers> yea
[06:04] <mobilhimers> that was it
[06:04] <bimberi> chefnate: it's in the universe repository - which you need to add - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[06:04] <chefnate> oh...thx
[06:05] <Inf3ctedFx> ok
[06:05] <Inf3ctedFx> thx RiverRat
[06:05] <RiverRat> np
[06:05] <GTroy> hello
[06:05] <bimberi> chefnate: yw :)
[06:05] <GTroy> I'm looking to play a .bin file...can anyone help?
[06:05] <dabaR> chefnate: also you can visit http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html to see how to install programs in Ubuntu.
[06:05] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: use google to search for how tos on it   that is how I got hints then I finally got it working with a little trial and error  just be patient  you can do it
[06:06] <GTroy> nalioth: are you busy?
[06:06] <Inf3ctedFx> well kspath  I'm always do thatr but to b honest with u... I've been deal with this since this morning.. and Im kidda tired lol
[06:06] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: your window manager has to support it         KDE and Gnome and Openbox all support it I think
[06:06] <mobilhimers> dual-monitor is sort of hard to set up, took me a while to get the hang of it
[06:07] <Inf3ctedFx> well I use Gnome
[06:07] <silentj> I just rebooted and ran sudo dpkg --configure -a, what should happen or what should i do when its done
[06:07] <Inf3ctedFx> so dual monitor is kind of hard?
[06:07] <sethk> mobilhimers, not exactly hard to set up, more hard to find the information.  Once you know how, it is not that difficult.
[06:07] <mobilhimers> yea
[06:07] <mobilhimers> so what kind of dual monitor do you have
[06:07] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: seems hard until you get it working than you laugh later how easy it was
[06:07] <mobilhimers> a card with 2 heads?
[06:07] <mobilhimers> 2 cards?
[06:08] <Inf3ctedFx> hahahahaha oks
[06:08] <Inf3ctedFx> I like that
[06:08] <Emmerac> I am running Ubuntu for the first time and I could not ask for a better OS!
[06:08] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: once you get the configuration set up   make a backup of that configuration so you will not cry later
[06:08] <Inf3ctedFx> I have 2 video cards
[06:08] <Inf3ctedFx> It happend to me b4 lol
[06:08] <Inf3ctedFx> thx 4 the advice
[06:08] <n0dl> how do i open rar files?
[06:08] <kspath> I have 3 nvidia TNT2 and 3 viewsonic 19inch monitors
[06:08] <GTroy> n0dl: I use rar
[06:09] <n0dl> i uncommented all the lines in my sources.list
[06:09] <GTroy> sudo apt-get rar
[06:09] <n0dl> i tried that
[06:09] <n0dl> said it cant find file
[06:09] <GTroy> you have to enable your repos
[06:09] <dabaR> silentj: sudo aptitude update, tell us whether there are any errors in that.
[06:09] <GTroy> !repositories
[06:09] <ubotu> I heard repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[06:09] <Inf3ctedFx> kspath
[06:09] <nicktastic> Hi, I'm trying to install the binary-only nvidia driver on breezy. I am using linux-image-2.6.12-10-686, which includes rivafb. Do I need to rebuild the kernel by hand, excluding rivafb, for the nvidia driver to work?
[06:09] <Inf3ctedFx> well I just start wiht 2 monitors lol
[06:09] <n0dl> GTroy: i did
[06:09] <silentj> ok, thanks so much for your help I really appreciate it, brb
[06:09] <dewdude> someone..please..some heo
[06:09] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: it works best if all cards of from same manufacturer but plenty get it working with 1 ATI and 1 Nvidia or other combo
[06:10] <dewdude> l
[06:10] <dewdude> errr
[06:10] <dewdude> some help with an audigy 2
[06:10] <Inf3ctedFx> well both r nvidia
[06:10] <GTroy> n0dl: I can't think of any other reason....you might keep asking though
[06:10] <nicktastic> Otherwise, is there a package for the nvidia binary-only driver on breezy?
[06:10] <Inf3ctedFx> but one is Gfoce4 4000 and the other one is Gforce2 400
[06:10] <mobilhimers> infectedfx: you want to see what a xorg looks like for a 2 montior set up, and just paste in the values for your specific setup into it?
[06:10] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: that should work great
[06:10] <silentj> sudo aptitude update completed succesfully
[06:11] <nalioth> GTroy: not at all
[06:11] <dabaR> silentj: ya, be back, cause this is just the first step. Excellent. Now, sudo aptitude dist-upgrade.
[06:11] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: some see a increase of memory used by X
[06:11] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: some see a performance drop
[06:11] <GTroy> nalioth: can't figure out how to play a .bin video file
[06:12] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: but remember it is spanning across to displays
[06:12] <dabaR> nicktastic: yes, there is such a driver at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or so.
[06:12] <Inf3ctedFx> ok so honestly kspath  do u recomend it? or not
[06:12] <nalioth> GTroy: usually they come with a .cue and you burn it to disk
[06:12] <nalioth> GTroy: like a vcd image
[06:12] <eruin> "you", "are"
[06:13] <nicktastic> dabaR: Thanks
[06:13] <GTroy> nalioth: ok, I appreciate the help!
[06:13] <dabaR> nicktastic: $20
[06:13] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: I can be great for workstation use     you can see a full page of something while you are at the same time doing 2-3 other things without having to go back and forth
[06:13] <Inf3ctedFx> I have it in winfuck but not in linux
[06:14] <silentj> ok, i ran sudo aptitude dist-upgrade and got, E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to fix the problem
[06:14] <nicktastic> dabaR: Maybe next time ;)
[06:14] <dabaR> OK, had to try.
[06:14] <nicktastic> Thanks again!
[06:14] <Inf3ctedFx> hey kspath  can u check if my ftp is working?? i'm trying to access but on firefox seem to do not work
[06:14] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: multi-head in linux seemed slower than multi-head in windblowz to me
[06:14] <Inf3ctedFx> is ftp.telariusonline.com
[06:14] <RedRose> has anyone here been able to get apache2 to work?
[06:15] <nalioth> slide: so do as it asks
[06:15] <sethk> RedRose, sure
[06:15] <dabaR> RedRose: yes. I have. It is hard, eh?
[06:15] <nalioth> silentj: so do as it asks
[06:15] <kspath> Inf3ctedFx: you can test with wget or curl or fetch or lynx or links
[06:15] <dabaR> RedRose: I mean, not hard, just unintuitive.
[06:15] <silentj> ok, i already ran that command before, i'll try it again
[06:15] <RedRose> dabaR:For Me It Is...
[06:15] <RedRose> dabaR:i do apt-get install apache2, it installs, and then nothing... i have apache installed, does that mess it up?
[06:16] <dabaR> RedRose: stop apache: "sudo invoke-rc.d apache stop" then start apache2:"sudo apache2ctl start"
[06:16] <dabaR> RedRose: and it wil point to /var/www
[06:17] <eruin> what's wrong with sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart ?
[06:17] <eruin> ;)
[06:17] <seth_k|lappy> eruin++
[06:17] <eFoX> hi ya folks
[06:17] <RedRose> wait, what is apache2ctl ... can't i just do /etc/init.d/apache stop && apache2 start?
[06:17] <silentj> '../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion 'dependtry <=4' failed'
[06:17] <eFoX> i have a few questions, because i am a complete n00b
[06:18] <eFoX> where do i go to type in commands ?
[06:18] <eFoX> mk, mkdir, ls etc..
[06:18] <mobilhimers> accessories -> terminal
[06:18] <Inf3ctedFx> the package to Midnight Commander on ubuntu is "mc"??
[06:18] <RedRose> dabaR:why doesn't /etc/init.d/apache2 start work?
[06:18] <dabaR> RedRose: no, you can not. I don't get why it is different, but that is what needs to be done. I do not have an answer to that, I was asking the same thing when I installed.
[06:19] <RedRose> k, ty for the help
[06:19] <eFoX> mobilhimers, : excellent, thank you
[06:19] <nicktastic> dabaR: Is it common for performance to decrease significantly after switching to the binary-only driver? ;)
[06:19] <dabaR> Inf3ctedFx: what installing program do you use?
[06:19] <Inf3ctedFx> apt-get
[06:19] <dabaR> nicktastic: the only driver is the binary only, afaik.
[06:19] <dabaR> Inf3ctedFx: apt-cache search mc
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> ok let me try
[06:20] <eFoX> I downloaded a theme, and yet when I try and move it into the appropriate theme folder, it says i do not have permission...is there something i can do about that ?
[06:20] <eruin> dabaR, no, you've got both nv and nvidia
[06:20] <nicktastic> dabaR: x.org has a foss driver, used by default, afaik (nv = free, nvidia = non-free)
[06:20] <dabaR> Inf3ctedFx: apt-cache search mc|grep ^mc
[06:20] <nicktastic> iirc
[06:20] <dabaR> really, hm...thanks for letting me know.
[06:20] <eruin> eFoX, drop it in /home/brad/.themes
[06:21] <nicktastic> dabaR: sarcasm?
[06:21] <dabaR> no, thanks.
[06:21] <nicktastic> dabaR: Feel free to tell me if I'm incorrect
[06:21] <kestas> is there any way to change the default app for opening images from eog to gthumb?
[06:21] <dabaR> I always feel free, cause I share my software (free software song referrence).
[06:22] <nicktastic> ...or be a prick about it, your choice of course
[06:22] <silentj> after running sudo dpkg --configure -a, i got '../../src/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion 'dependtry <=4' failed'
[06:22] <eFoX> eruin, I dont have /themes under the username
[06:22] <eFoX> after the user name it goes to desktop, which is where my folder is
[06:23] <dabaR> I really did not know, and now I found out, so I thanked you guys.
[06:23] <eruin> eFoX, _._themes
[06:23] <kestas> if I was in Windows I'd right click, go to 'Run with other application' and select 'Open with this application as default'
[06:23] <eruin> eFoX, and if you dont have that folder, create it ;)
[06:23] <kestas> but in ubuntu there doesnt seem to be a way to do it
[06:23] <kestas> which is a shame because eog is terrible but gthumb is pretty good
[06:24] <mobilhimers> it doesnt make sense that he doesnt have permission to add a theme
[06:24] <mobilhimers> its in your home dir, you should be able to do everything, right?
[06:24] <eruin> still haven't found the reasoning for having both EOG and gthumb
[06:24] <eruin> I think he's trying to add it to /usr/share/themes
[06:24] <Corrupter> does the python interpreter come with Ubuntu?
[06:24] <chefnate> u ppl rock!!
[06:24] <chefnate> thx
[06:25] <kestas> I'd have thought there'd be a way to change the default app for a certain file type, being open source you need to be able to choose which app to use right?
[06:26] <kestas> mix and match is supposed to be what its all about Id think
[06:26] <QQ_ghost> anyone know about the intel AMR modems?
[06:26] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone know why I can't go any higher than 60hz for my refresh rate?
[06:26] <Madpilot> kestas: you can - Nautilus can change file type <--> app matches
[06:26] <Corrupter> does the python interpreter come with Ubuntu?
[06:27] <kestas> Madpilot, where? :o I couldnt find an option anywhere
[06:27] <kestas> Corrupter, yes
[06:27] <QQ_ghost> linmodems.org has a link to http://www.intel.com/pc-supp/platform/ac97/papers.htm but it's broken...
[06:27] <Corrupter> kestas: where is it?
[06:27] <dabaR> kestas: no way you did not get an answer yet. You can right click on the file, select properties, then go to the open with tab, and go from there.
[06:27] <kestas> type python at the terminal
[06:27] <Madpilot> kestas: highlight a file of the type you want to change the assignment of - then go Edit-Properties - one of the tabs is Open With
[06:27] <kestas> dabaR, yes but what about associating a filetype with a certain app?
[06:28] <dabaR> kestas: that does it.
[06:28] <dabaR> kestas: apologize now.
[06:28] <kestas> Madpilot, thanks :)
[06:28] <dabaR> heh, no joking. that does what you want.
[06:28] <kestas> dabaR, that suggestion isn't permeanent though
[06:28] <dabaR> kestas: is too.
[06:29] <kestas> dabaR, nope thats what Ive been doing for months, going to Open with every time I want to open an image in gthumb
[06:29] <dabaR> kestas: right click>properties>open with>select.
[06:29] <dabaR> kestas: I said that the first time too.
[06:29] <chalcedony> dabaR: my husband's ubuntu box has problems. We were using it, and went out for a while, when we came back some things seemed to have locked up. Being windows users, we tried rebooting. Now firefox can't see the net. I'm not sure what else is not going.
[06:30] <dabaR> chalcedony: are you a female, or a male with a husband?
[06:30] <dabaR> chalcedony: jj, dont haveg to answer.
[06:30] <chalcedony> dabaR: i'm a mother.
[06:31] <dabaR> chalcedony: well, we can only fix what is not working, you can not get online with firefox?
[06:31] <chalcedony> dabaR: yes firefox says it can't connect to the www.
[06:31] <eFoX> eruin, ok its in there, but when i check my themes listing, its not listed there
[06:31] <eFoX> any ideas ?
[06:31] <sasquatc4> this is troubling, just found out my direct rendering some how got disabled, anyone know how to get it going again, im still loading the dri module in my xorg.conf too
[06:31] <kestas> chalcedony, could you open a terminal, Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[06:32] <kestas> chalcedony, and type ping www.google.com, and tell us if it pings it sucessfully
[06:32] <chalcedony> kestas: yes i have a terminal open and ran mtr. it is seeing pings.
[06:32] <mobilhimers> eFoX: what sort of theme are you talking about? just dragging it into the proper window in the themes dialog doesnt work?
[06:32] <eruin> eFoX, have you tried installing it via gnome-theme-manager ?
[06:32] <chalcedony> ping: unknown host.
[06:32] <kestas> chalcedony, so when you open firefox and try to access a website what happens?
[06:32] <dabaR> chalcedony: what is mtr?
[06:33] <chalcedony> mtr is a trace program
[06:34] <eFoX> mobilhimers, ive tried dragging it into the proper window and that didnt work
[06:34] <chalcedony> kestas: it says it can't find the www.
[06:34] <dabaR> chalcedony: to restart the GUI of Ubuntu, the windowing part, hit alt+ctrl+backspace next time, without restarting the computer itself. Have you deleted temp files in Firefox?
[06:34] <leigh> G'day Ubuntu guys, I'm a newby , and I just installed Ubuntu, Everything's fine exepct that I cant' access the floppy. Can anyone help?
[06:34] <chalcedony> i have no idea how to delete temp files in firefox.
[06:34] <kestas> chalcedony, do you use a proxy? and with mtr did you manage to access a place which is definately on the internet?
[06:34] <eFoX> eruin, ive tried using the manager and it opens up the folder and then when i click anyone of them it says invalid format. what should the format be ? maybe im choosing the wrong one
[06:35] <chalcedony> kestas: no we are on a lan. it came back with <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:35] <dabaR> chalcedony: that IP is your computer.
[06:35] <kestas> chalcedony, k well try 'ping www.google.com' at the terminal
[06:35] <dabaR> eFoX: are you trying to install some kind of theme for gnome?
[06:35] <karlan> anybody know how i can get the right drivers for my graphic card? Now i am using default, and i have a Geforce 3
[06:35] <chalcedony> kestas: ok
[06:36] <sasquatc4> so yea, anyone any ideas on dri?
[06:36] <chalcedony> kestas: ping www.google.com : unknown host www.google.com
[06:36] <mobilhimers> how did you figure out your DRI stopped working
[06:36] <dabaR> karlan: visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:36] <mobilhimers> glxinfo says no direct rendering?
[06:37] <sasquatc4> glxinfo reports that im not using direct rendering, and glxgears barely moves
[06:37] <mobilhimers> what kind of video card you got?
[06:37] <karlan> dabaR, thx :-)
[06:37] <Naut_> can anyone recommend a mp3/media player? amrok w/ gstreamer is giving me a hard time about decoding mp3s
[06:37] <sasquatc4> this is a laptop, its an ati 350
[06:37] <sasquatc4> somethin like that
[06:37] <sasquatc4> i had it workin earlier, not sure what happened
[06:37] <sasquatc4> igp 340m
[06:38] <karlan> i have one more question, how do i get my Logitech mx510 forward and back button to work in my internetbrowser?
[06:38] <kestas> chalcedony, okay do you know if you use a proxy server or NAT?
[06:38] <dabaR> Naut_: totem, xmms, beep-media-player...
[06:38] <mobilhimers> did you update any X stuff lately?
[06:38] <sasquatc4> not a clue, prolly at some point
[06:38] <mobilhimers> you didnt have to touch X before at all to get this to work originally?
[06:38] <dabaR> chalcedony: "/j #flood" as your message to our channel, that will join you to #flood. How do you connect to the Internet? DSL, cable, dial up, router...
[06:38] <chalcedony> kestas: our son set up and maintains the lan. you will need to tell me what commands to type.
[06:38] <kestas> chalcedony, and how are you accessing the net at the moment?
[06:39] <karlan> Naut_, i can recommend Beep-media player. just like winamp btw :) really nice
[06:39] <whocares> ale->
[06:39] <Naut_> thanks
[06:39] <Naut_> has anyone else had problems getting mp3 playback with the gstreamer engine?
[06:39] <chalcedony> we have comcast cable through a linux firwall and hubs etc.
[06:39] <Naut_> im curious
[06:39] <whocares> Anyone using vmware player?
[06:39] <mobilhimers> sasquatc4: if you have DCC or some way of sending files, itd be nice if i could take a look at your xorg.conf
[06:40] <mobilhimers> lspci and lsmod would help alot too
[06:40] <nickrud> !mp3
[06:40] <ubotu> [mp3]  a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:40] <sasquatc4> k, ummm, im rdp'd to another box right now, hold on a sec
[06:40] <Madpilot> Naut_: I switched to using totem-xine instead of -gstreamer - gstreamer here wouldn't play anything...
[06:41] <dabaR> Naut_: visit that page shown above. It shows how to install mp3 playback capability.
[06:41] <kestas> chalcedony, and how are you accessing the net at the moment?
[06:41] <Naut_> thx all
[06:42] <eFoX> dabaR, yes I am. This is my first time playing with this thing and so i want to be able to get used to it so im doing anything and everything...
[06:43] <dabaR> eFoX: you can try visiting the faq section of art.gnome.org, that is what I did when I installed my first theme, the faqs are nice there.
[06:43] <kestas> cant you drag and drop into the themes list?
[06:43] <kestas> worked for me
[06:44] <eFoX> dabaR, sweeet, thanks
[06:46] <daved> how can i modify the theme of gtk1 apps?
[06:46] <sasquatc4> mobilhimers: well i tried, dunno if you were still there to get it or if its cause of my router
[06:46] <sasquatc4> i can always pm you important sections
[06:47] <ELpH950> anyone using ubuntu for midi sequencing?
[06:47] <mobilhimers> thatll work
[06:49] <karlan> dabaR_, are you there?
[06:50] <dabaR> ya, do I know you or do I again look like I know answers?
[06:50] <harris> I was wondering if anyone could help me out, the cd drive on my laptop want open when I press the button using Ubuntu
[06:50] <harris> but it opens fine if i boot in xp
[06:50] <karlan> anyone there who can help me with my graphics driver? i followed the tutorial exactly located at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:50] <dabaR> harris: and did you unmount the disk first?
[06:51] <ELpH950> imm... what kind of video card?
[06:51] <harris> what do you mean dabaR??
[06:52] <harris> I assume the disk is mounted, i have a duel boot setup and I haven't touched the partition since I orgrinally set it up
[06:52] <Madpilot> harris: if the CD icon still shows up in Nautilus, right-click on it and select Eject
[06:52] <dabaR> chalcedony: go back to #ubuntu for a sec, please.
[06:52] <dabaR> heh
[06:52] <dabaR> chalcedony: and when you "ping <IP_ADDRESS>"
[06:53] <chalcedony> back
[06:53] <leigh> How the hell do yo9u use this xchat - ?
[06:53] <dabaR> chalcedony: packets received, or lost, basically is what I want to know.
[06:54] <harris> madpilot what is nautilus?
[06:54] <chalcedony>  <IP_ADDRESS> ping statistics : 7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss time 6005ms
[06:54] <dabaR> chalcedony: well, and "ping yahoo.com"
[06:55] <harris> The cd drive works fine in ubuntu, the only thing is I can open the thing unless i boot into xp
[06:55] <harris> can't*
[06:55] <chalcedony> ping: unknown host yahoo.com
[06:55] <silentj> hey guys, i just rebooted and entered 'sudo dpkg --configure -a, then sudo aptitude update, and then sudo aptitude dist-upgrade and everything completed successfully this time, what should i do next to complete the installation?
[06:55] <dissolutions> eject in ubuntu :P
[06:55] <chalcedony> leigh: what part of xchat are you having trouble with?
[06:55] <dabaR> chalcedony: your DNS name resolution is not working.
[06:55] <dissolutions> * harris: eject in ubuntu :P
[06:55] <chalcedony> ahhhhhhh
[06:55] <chalcedony> so how do we fix that?
[06:55] <harris> lol
[06:55] <harris> i wish i could
[06:56] <dissolutions> harris: or unmount
[06:56] <chalcedony> harris: if you do that wrong your computer may never work again. .. not to mention..
[06:56] <dabaR> silentj: excellent, glad to hear that. now, the installation is done. GOod work. when you run "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start", what happens?
[06:56] <ZaPaper> what is the difference between gnome and gtk+? i'm trying to install VLC player and i have those two options
[06:56] <harris> unmount each time i want to open my cd drive?
[06:57] <harris> is there a way to config your hardware?
[06:57] <dissolutions> sudo umount /media/cdrom0/ -l :P
[06:58] <dissolutions> thats all unmounting is :P
[06:58] <harris> i just figured it out... i typed the word 'eject' in the terminal
[06:58] <harris> lol
[06:58] <dabaR> chalcedony: well, normally, it should work. there are a few things we will try. type "echo <IP_ADDRESS> >> /etc/resolv.conf" to start off. then again try pinging yahoo.
[06:58] <dissolutions> I happen to remember saying eject :P
[06:58] <harris> the fucker pop'd right open
[06:58] <dissolutions> :D
[06:58] <dissolutions> laptop?
[06:58] <harris> yup
[06:59] <ELpH950> harris, :yuou stoned?
[06:59] <dissolutions> which kind?  I'm using a TOshiba 170 at the moment, without too many difficulties.
[06:59] <harris> lol
[06:59] <dissolutions> *A70
[06:59] <ELpH950> i figure things out better when i am lol
[06:59] <silentj> ok, now i get 'invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript /etc/init.d/gdm not found'
[06:59] <harris> ..... maybe
[06:59] <daved> how can i modify the theme of gtk1 apps?
[06:59] <ELpH950> good question daved
[06:59] <Adross> is there anyway to set up a timedelay for taking a screenshot?
[07:00] <chalcedony> daba ok
[07:00] <daved> ELpH950, is that really the answer?
[07:00] <dabaR> silentj: then "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop"
[07:00] <phosphoricx> hey guys, how can I change from amd64 ubuntu to 32-bit?
[07:00] <silentj> sweet, thanks! brb
[07:01] <dabaR> Adross: yes. install imagemagick for a start.
[07:01] <dabaR> phosphoricx: there is something called chroot, I think. google on that if noone else knows more.
[07:01] <chalcedony> dabaR: permission denied: /etc/resolv.conf
[07:01] <phosphoricx> well I've set that up already, but I want to switch my system to 32bit
[07:02] <dabaR> oh, oh, is this user a sudo user?
[07:02] <harris> thanks for the help guys... peace
[07:02] <chalcedony> dabaR: what's that?
[07:02] <dabaR> chalcedony: when you type "sudo ls" and then enter your password when asked, does it list files?
[07:02] <dabaR> phosphoricx: I think you have to reinstall.
[07:02] <dabaR> phosphoricx: however, I am the least knowledgeable person on that.
[07:03] <aaronm67> hello, i'm having a syntax error when I run smeg, can anyone help?
[07:03] <Adross> dabaR: already installed]
[07:03] <chalcedony> dabaR sudo is: command not found
[07:03] <dabaR> chalcedony: LS in lower case.
[07:04] <chalcedony> Desktop My Downloads
[07:04] <chalcedony> er dabaR:  Desktop My Downloads
[07:05] <chalcedony> dabaR: 1. his prompt looks funny to me: vir% not $ is this right?
[07:05] <chalcedony> i tried cd
[07:05] <chalcedony> and it did not go anywhere else
[07:06] <dabaR> chalcedony: then, do this now: "echo <IP_ADDRESS>|sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf"
[07:06] <chalcedony> ok
[07:06] <chalcedony> ty
[07:06] <owner989> anyone here use fluxbox under ubuntu
[07:07] <karlan> dabaR, i tested with the legacy drivers, and my xserver died :) had to use the backup. Can you help me with getting the newer one to work?
[07:07] <aaronm67> can anyone here help me? i'm having a syntax error when I try to run smeg menu editor
[07:07] <dabaR> Adross: and now, "sleep X; import --root blah.png" for a png screenshot, where X is the number of seconds of delay. sleep is the delay command in GNU.
[07:08] <chalcedony> dabaR: echo <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:08] <chalcedony> vir%
[07:08] <Madpilot> what's the CLI command to unpack a tar.gz file?
[07:08] <chalcedony> Lukian: do i know you?
[07:08] <mrkoje> Madpilot,   tar -xvzf
[07:08] <Madpilot> mrkoje: thnx
[07:08] <dabaR> chalcedony: that is the response you got? that is proper. try pinging now, again yahoo, please.
[07:09] <chalcedony> dabaR: ty ok
[07:09] <dabaR> karlan: I am not savvy with the drivers for cards like that, never yet had to install one.
[07:09] <chalcedony> dabaR: ping: unknown host www.google.com
[07:09] <dabaR> karlan: study the wiki page again, is best I can do.
[07:09] <karlan> dabaR, okay, thx
[07:10] <chalcedony> i very definitely appreciate your help, dabaR
[07:10] <dabaR> chalcedony: ok, that did not work. just to confirm, when you "cat /etc/resolv.conf" do you get <IP_ADDRESS> back?
[07:10] <iflipti> does anyone know how to install breezy badger for a low memory system *without* using a network?
[07:10] <dabaR> I do it for the money, anyhow.
[07:11] <chalcedony> dabaR: yes
[07:11] <iflipti> could you tell me how?
[07:11] <chalcedony> dabaR: if people payed for computer help on irc, we would all get rich .. and be able to afford our servers :)
[07:11] <dabaR> iflipti: try the server install, then install something lightweight. See, I do not think there is a connection between the memory, and the network install.
[07:12] <burepe> I loaded a driver with this command sudo modprobe saa7134 card=3 tuner=5. I think the 3 and 5 are wrong. If I want to change them do I have to unload the driver and then do the command again with different numbers or can I just do the command again with different numbers?
[07:12] <iflipti> chalecedony: ok I have installed server
[07:13] <dabaR> iflipti: that fast?
[07:13] <Badm4n> ????
[07:13] <iflipti> dabaR: no, already finished :)
[07:13] <Badm4n> so fast
[07:13] <chalcedony> ah
[07:13] <dabaR> chalcedony: no, we would not get rich. It was a joke, let's get back on track. See, we need to input a dns name manually now, for a real server on the Internet. I believe Comcast changes name servers. I actually work Home Networking support for Comcast, but not even we know whether the DNS is static, they say it is dynamic. ANywho, try adding a dns server there, would you like a Comcast one, or one that is fast and definitely static IP ad
[07:14] <dabaR> iflipti: well, what do you want installed now?  You mean you have low RAM, right?
[07:14] <leigh> Hello is this working
[07:15] <dabaR> no
[07:15] <leigh> Hello does this work
[07:15] <chalcedony> dabaR: did your paragraph get cut short?
[07:15] <iflipti> dabaR: yes, 64MB.  A GUI would be nice.  Open office, firefox
[07:15] <leigh> Hello where is newbies channel?????????
[07:15] <Cope57> I have read the wiki on mounting another HD which is formatted with FAT32, but my situation is that the HD is partitioned 4 times. How do I mount all the partitions at boot time? I can get it to mount 1 at a time, and when I try to mount more than 1, the other partitions have the same files as the others...? When mounted one at a time, I see the correct files. Any suggestions?
[07:15] <dabaR> chalcedony: ANywho, try adding a dns server there, would you like a Comcast one, or one that is fast and definitely static IP address so you don't ever have to change IPs?
[07:15] <dabaR> did you get the part up to the word dynamic?
[07:15] <kestas> chalcedony, how are you accessing the internet now? and can you find out what IP your DNS server is?
[07:16] <chalcedony> i have my host from another network, would that be what we need here?
[07:16] <tritium> leigh: right here
[07:16] <leigh> Hello , How do I get to the newbies channel Please?
[07:16] <dabaR> iflipti: visit http://xwinman.org first, and choose a GUI for yourself. I use what is shown on http://icculus.org/openbox and I like that a lot, and supposedly it is fast.
[07:17] <leigh> Ok, thanks
[07:17] <dabaR> chalcedony: the DNS host?
[07:17] <regeya> least.  meaningful.  error.  message.  ever.  "E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header"
[07:17] <burepe> leigh, what do you mean? I think this is it
[07:17] <chalcedony> dabaR: i did dns my own host. umm if you have a better one let's look at it?
[07:17] <dabaR> Cope57: sudo fdisk -l to start. then post that to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:17] <leigh> I have just installed Ubuntu and everything went fine, but I can't access the floppy?
[07:18] <silentj> dabar, i'm back after running sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop, it took a while but everything went smoothly, should i retry running sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start now?
[07:18] <dabaR> chalcedony: I dont atm, I would have to look. Try that one for now, do you know how to add that to the resolv.conf file?
[07:18] <dabaR> silentj: ya, try, that should open up the Ubuntu login screen.
[07:18] <lando> I want to upgrade from ubuntu 5.04 to 5.1 without changing user account specific file ( like desktop file or anything like that)
[07:18] <silentj> ok, will do
[07:18] <dabaR> !upgrade2breezy
[07:18] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:18] <lando> thanks
[07:19] <dabaR> $20
[07:19] <chalcedony> dabaR: no sorry i don't.
[07:19] <sasquatc4> hmmm, apparently the guy helping me dissappeared
[07:19] <jsgotangco> haha
[07:19] <iflipti> dabaR:  ok the only issue is how to get the file from my mac, (now connected to the internet) and into the laptap.  I have a USB flashdrive and a firewire to usb cable that I think could work, I just don't know how I would do that in the console
[07:19] <dabaR> chalcedony: no worries, what is the number?
[07:19] <regeya> weird as hell.  all I did was remove one package from my /etc/apt/preferences file, one I didn't want to pin anymore...hrm.
[07:19] <chalcedony> dabaR:  c-71-56-76-189.hsd1.ga.comcast.net has address <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:20] <dabaR> is that a DNS server?
[07:20] <dabaR> no, that is your modem.
[07:20] <chalcedony> dabaR: i did /dns my host and got back the ip .. is that a dns server?
[07:20] <Cope57> dabaR it is pasted
[07:20] <zhx> hello
[07:20] <dabaR> chalcedony: do you use gnome on this debian install?
[07:21] <chalcedony> dabaR: yes
[07:21] <regeya> greetings zhx
[07:21] <zhx> i have a couple wine/winamp questions
[07:21] <dabaR> Cope57: paste /etc/fstab too, please.
[07:21] <zhx> if anybody has a couple mins
[07:21] <regeya> I swear I think I'm going to start keeping everything in /etc in a svn repo
[07:21] <regeya> :-/
[07:21] <regeya> #$%!
[07:21] <dabaR> chalcedony: can you try clicking System>Admin>Networking, I think it has that. There should be DNS servers shown there.
[07:21] <pappan> is gcc not included in the ubuntu desktop
[07:22] <leigh> hello
[07:22] <chalcedony> dabaR: on my box?
[07:22] <regeya> 'E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header
[07:22] <dabaR> ya, on the one that is online.
[07:22] <regeya> $%@!
[07:22] <burepe> leigh, put in the floppy and do this command sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[07:22] <burepe> that will mount it
[07:23] <regeya> meh.
[07:23] <silentj> dabar, a sincere thanks to your patience and guidance, ubuntu is now up and running and i'm officially a linux user. i'm retiring for the night, with a smile, thanks again!
[07:23] <chalcedony> dabaR: i don't think i see those.
[07:23] <dabaR> $20
[07:23] <dunja> hello, i just ran automatix for firefox 1.5 install but now firefox won't start at all....what can i do?
[07:23] <dabaR> chalcedony: under networking?
[07:23] <dabaR> silentj: good work, anyhow, good patience, and perseverence.
[07:23] <Cope57> dabaR sent.
[07:23] <regeya> yesterday I pinned dvdauthor, mjpegtools, libmjpeg0, libmagick, and imagemagick.  I removed all reference to dvdauthor, and now I get the error message above.  how do I get more meaningful error reports?
[07:24] <regeya> all I want to do is use the hoary pkgs listed above and keep 'em pinned in place.  meh, meh, MEH.
[07:25] <dabaR> dunja: eat a dunja.
[07:25] <leigh> burepe, Ok I did that, it hasn't returned to the prompt yet. No activity on the drive.
[07:25] <dabaR> if you understand that language.
[07:25] <chalcedony> still looking .. i tried clicking for a root window.. got : Please enter root's password to run/usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator  and asked for the password.
[07:26] <burepe> hmm
[07:26] <dunja> dabar is a comedian ;)\
[07:26] <Cope57> dabaR I can erase the last three lines and keep changing the hdb1-4 to mount it that way. but I would like to have them all mounted at the same time at boot for easy file transfers.
[07:26] <dabaR> Cope57: well, your computer is recognizing only one partition, are you 100% sure there is more partitions?
[07:26] <regeya> dwhee
[07:26] <Cope57> 110% sure
[07:26] <burepe> restart your session try it again and then go to /media/floppy0 and see if you can see the files
[07:26] <dabaR> Cope57: sda is fat, that is what fdisk says.
[07:26] <chalcedony> that was in Applications > System Tools dabaR
[07:27] <dabaR> chalcedony: how about the one in system>admin>networkign, is that even there in debian?
[07:27] <Cope57> That is my little usb flash stick
[07:27] <Cope57> I was not including that one
[07:27] <chalcedony> dabaR: in my debian those don't seem to be there.
[07:27] <Cope57> It gets automounted.
[07:28] <dabaR> chalcedony: is there a system menu on the top?
[07:28] <burepe> leigh, are you there
[07:28] <burepe> ?
[07:28] <burepe> if you read something and go off to try it say ok or something
[07:28] <leigh> yes
[07:29] <dabaR> chalcedony: ask in #debian how to find out what DNS servers you are using, and then come back and tell me what the IP address of the DNS server is, if you can.
[07:29] <ViViD> if i change my windows server to linux, would i have to reformat the raid array and lose the data?
[07:29] <regeya> for not the first time this week, for the first time in years, I almost regret my decision to use free OSes.
[07:29] <dunja> ok, i got firefox open using sudo, but is this required every time? also the JRE doesn't work even though automatix says it installed it
[07:29] <chalcedony> dabaR: in the footprint on the top left, I have : Accessories, Desktop Preferences, Internet, multimedia, Office, System Tools, Help, Debian Menu
[07:30] <chalcedony> ok ill do that
[07:30] <silverton> ViViD, yes
[07:30] <ViViD> damn
[07:30] <silverton> regeya, buy redhat