[02:55] <aram> mneptok: i found it thank that is the model GeForce 8600M GT
[02:55] <aram> oh sorry
[02:55] <ogre_> i have a *legal*  movie i want to reenconde
[02:56] <aram> mneptok: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[02:56] <ogre_> mneptok,  yep
[02:56] <mneptok> ogre_: VLC
[02:56] <aram> mneptok: now how can i find the driver for it ?
[02:56] <mneptok> aram: you don;t need to "find a driver for it"
[02:56] <mneptok> aram: Linux doesn;t work that way. Linux is not Windows.
[02:56] <MasterShrek> anyone use ubuntu server? for some reason it never prompted me to create a default user, is it supposed to? maybe i skipped something....never used server b4
[02:56] <mneptok> aram: lsmod | grep snd
[02:56] <ogre_> mneptok,  i want to reencode so i can play on my dvd player. kvcd is half vcd half svcd sorta
[02:56] <aram> mneptok: ok what should i do know
[02:56] <mneptok> aram: pastebin the results
[02:56] <umops> bulmer, yes
[02:57] <dragonforce99> i accidently deleted my top panel, is there anyway to get it back?
[02:57] <aram> mneptok: there is no result just go to next line
[02:57] <bulmer> umops-> that is strange..anyhow what does ifconfig  shows?
[02:57] <MasterShrek> dragonforce99, right click the other panel, you should be able to add a panel...i think...not using gnome
[02:57] <mneptok> aram: then you have no sound kernel modules loaded. you probably booted to an old -i386 or -lowlatency kernel
[02:58] <mneptok> aram: reboot, and use the GRUB menu to select the newest "generic" kernel
[02:58] <dragonforce99> right, i did that, is there a way to restore it to default?
[02:58] <umops> bulmer, it just shows like a nw defice with no IP
[02:58] <bulmer> umops-> paste it in pastebin so i can see
[02:58] <aram> mneptok: do you what happen is that i am new and have so many problem
[02:58] <bulmer> !pastebin|umops
[02:58] <ubotu> umops: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:58] <aram> mneptok: but i have try to solve them with other user help
[02:58] <umops> bulmer, i can't, the computer cant cnnect to the internet
[02:59] <bulmer> umops-> you are connected now are you not? copy it one by one
[02:59] <robdig> dragonforce99: try this alt+f2 then sudo debconf gnome-panel
[02:59] <aram> mneptok: i have first got problem to install and then when i install i have anothe problem which is each time i but the ubuntu can not boot
[02:59] <aram> mneptok: and black command place come like error and i just type exit and the hit return
[03:00] <mneptok> aram: is there a question there?
[03:00] <aram> mneptok: then it come to linux
[03:00] <umops> bulmer, i just need to know how to completly remove all network setting so it can rebuild them from scratch (ifconfig wont help you, there is no useful data)
[03:00] <aram> no
[03:00] <aram> mneptok: it just say busy box v1.1.3c ............
[03:00] <bulmer> umops-> you can take a look at your /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:01] <aram> mneptok: and then it show (initramfs)
[03:01] <aram> mneptok: thats it
[03:01] <chuy_max> hi, I just updated gutsy and suddenly my wireless card stopped working, lspcmcia tells me I have an atmel_cs, I just installed atmel_firmware (I didn't need it before) and restarted, but it didn't help
[03:01] <umops> bulmer, thanks I will edit that
[03:02] <aram> mneptok: what should i do please you or some one help because it is about 12 hour i am messing around with this ...... system
[03:02] <chuy_max> any ideas?
[03:02] <umurtu> anybody familiar with alsa drivers/
[03:03] <mneptok> aram: how are your hard drives connected? what kind of controller?
[03:04] <stefano> steel_lady, does it work?
[03:04] <aram> mneptok: with external you knwo when i wa tryng to install because i hade 2 windows drive on it i umount this 2 and then install
[03:04] <dragonforce99> is there a way to remove titlebars in 7.10?
[03:04] <dragonforce99> like the things that enable me to minimize kill or maximize?
[03:04] <mneptok> aram: i don't understand
[03:04] <aram> mneptok: and also to let you know i have installed in safe mode i couldent come up in normal mode
[03:05] <mneptok> aram: you installed Ubuntu to an external drive?
[03:05] <MasterShrek> dragonforce99, u want to get rid of them?
[03:05] <dragonforce99> yes
[03:05] <MasterShrek> dragonforce99, killall metacity i think should do it
[03:05] <aram> mneptok: is there any place that is privite and i can explain all the story?
[03:05] <mneptok> aram: i can't do that. i'm at work.
[03:05] <aram> mneptok: ok
[03:05] <mneptok> aram: if a paying customer needs me, i have to leave.
[03:06] <dragonforce99> killall metacity didn't work
[03:06] <dragonforce99> i want to remove titlebars
[03:06] <yimmmy> gbh
[03:06] <aram> mneptok: you know i explain every thing
[03:06] <MasterShrek> hmm, i dont know for sure the window decorator for gnome...
[03:06] <MasterShrek> gtk-decorator maybe?
[03:06] <MasterShrek> i dunno...
[03:06] <kazol> Is anyone here familiar with cedega? I can't install it.
[03:06] <dragonforce99> "no process killed"
[03:06] <dragonforce99> what is the command to list all processes?
[03:06] <mneptok> aram: don't use an external drive. the process is complicated, and you're a new user. you don;t have the expertise yet to make it work. install Ubuntu to an internal disk.
[03:07] <robdig> dragonforce99: ps -ef
[03:07] <aram> mneptok: i have try yo boot from first time and it doesnt imean it give me error of can not access tty :job central turned off
[03:07] <nealmcb> Beererde:  they were helpful in #mplayer - the dll error was because I needed sipr3260.dll from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/rp8codecs-win32-20040626.tar.bz2
[03:07] <stefano> you try to help someone with network problems and all you get is   (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[03:07] <stefano> :(
[03:07] <mneptok> aram: stop using the external.
[03:07] <umops> bulmer, Hmm, i'm still getting the same problem.  I'm not even sure why it would release an IP then it hasnt even recieved one?
[03:07] <aram> mneptok: after while i found a way that before boot press f6 and type break=top
[03:08] <mneptok> aram: that's my final answer.
[03:08] <Les_Caesars> Is there a way I can change the color of my titlebar in gnome?
[03:08] <dragonforce99> aram: what's your problem?
[03:08] <mneptok> dragonforce99: Busybox when booting from external media.
[03:08] <bulmer> umops-> I dont know, this is a new install?
[03:08] <aram> mneptok: but i have same problem with my internal and if you cant help dont say like that i do not need your help
[03:08] <mneptok> dragonforce99: he's best off installing to an internal disk.
[03:08] <dragonforce99> Oh, i got that when I tried to install from an internal on another computer
[03:09] <dragonforce99> no workaround that i could find
[03:09] <mneptok> aram: apparently, you *do* need my help.
[03:09] <mneptok> ;)
[03:09] <umops> bulmer, no.. i changed modem recently but that did effect other computers in the same way
[03:09] <dragonforce99> !attitude aram
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about attitude aram - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <aram> mneptok: there is milion of people can help
[03:09] <dragonforce99> !attitude | aram
[03:09] <ubotu> aram: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:09] <serenityUK> stefano: lol,  standing on the branch as you saw
[03:09] <mongo1> in installation should i choose, "linux-generic, linux-image-generic, linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic" ? im installing to a laptop ???
[03:09] <umops> bulmer, is there a flush-all command kind of thing?.  everything looks to be the same as other computers
[03:09] <mneptok> aram: but none of them here are as qualified as i :)
[03:10] <mneptok> aram: what is your ATA controller?
[03:10] <aram> ubuntu:i know they are volunteer i dont have any problem with that i have problem with some one which is so proud of his or her self
[03:10] <bulmer> umops-> try /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:10] <mneptok> aram: it's a statement of fact, not bragging.
[03:10] <kazol> Is anyone here familiar with cedega? I can't install it.
[03:11] <dragonforce99> crap, i killed window decorator and turned off terminal and now i can't get ot terminal.. is there a shortcut to get there?
[03:11] <mneptok> aram: what is your ATA controller?
[03:11] <falieson> has anyone gotten ubuntu to output sound over hdmi yet?
[03:11] <dragonforce99> mneptok: what makes you so qualified?
[03:11] <aram> mneptok: i do not know what do u mean
[03:11] <mneptok> dragonforce99: /whois mneptok
[03:11] <falieson> I was looking through the forums and the answer I've so far found is no
[03:12] <mneptok> aram: what chipset does your hard drive controller use?
[03:12] <dragonforce99> that explains things :)
[03:12] <bulmer> Dragon64-> there is always ctrl+alt+f1
[03:12] <aram> mneptok: the only thing i understand is that this linux have my labtop
[03:12] <mongo1> in installation should i choose, "linux-generic, linux-image-generic, linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic" ? im installing to a laptop ???
[03:12] <Jack_Sparrow> mneptok: Hi, things look quiet
[03:12] <yimmmy> fu
[03:12] <stefano> dragonforce99, alt+f2
[03:12] <aram> mneptok: is there any way that i can find that information ?
[03:12] <falieson> anyone want to (PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE) tell me that I am wrong and ubuntu will send audio over hdmi?
[03:12] <mneptok> Jack_Sparrow: thank *jebus* for holidays!
[03:12] <dragonforce99> bulmer, when i am in the virtual console, how do I get back to gnome desktop?
[03:13] <paulo> hello. my graphic card is an ATI Mobility Radeon X1350 and it was detected but when i type "glxinfo | grep render" it says "direct rendering: No"... :(
[03:13] <mneptok> aram: you should find out what hardware your computer has before trying any new operating lyltyem
[03:13] <mneptok> *system
[03:13] <bulmer> dragonforce99-> i dont know, what is that virtual console?
[03:13] <serenityUK> dragonforce99: does crtl-alt-f7 is back to desktop
[03:13] <umops> bulmer, hmm yeah been trying that, would usually work but something very strange is going on
[03:13] <dragonforce99> okay thank you serenityUK
[03:13] <mneptok> aram: it may well be that you're using a SATA/RAID controller with no workable Linux driver
[03:13] <serenityUK> dragonforce99: try alt-f2 first
[03:13] <aram> mneptok: type lyltyem in terminal ?
[03:13] <serenityUK> dragonforce99:  alt-f2 is run dialog
[03:14] <bulmer> umops-> i cant guess everything correctly, find a way to pastebin those config files i requeste
[03:14] <bulmer> d
[03:14] <dragonforce99> that didn't work
[03:14] <serenityUK> dragonforce99: always -crtl-alt-backspace to restart gnome..  if u have no work open?
[03:14] <Jed> hi, is there a way to get the monitor settings (hsync, etc) from a windows install?
[03:15] <aram> mneptok: at the moment my hard drive is ide not sata but with both it give me same error
[03:15] <stefano> falieson, did you search the ubuntu wiki?
[03:15] <aram> mneptok: and the eroor is that /bin/sh :cant access tty
[03:15] <falieson> stefano: yeah, all the search I've found is saying linux doesn't support hdmi audio
[03:15] <falieson> but that was back in september, haven't found anything since then
[03:16] <mneptok> aram: it's PATA?
[03:16] <aram> mneptok: and for solve this issue i need to press f6 before boot and just type break=top and then hit return
[03:16] <Jack_Sparrow> aram: HEllo, dont mean to interrupt..  Can you not get the livecd to boot?
[03:16] <mneptok> aram: connected to a standard, non-RAID PATA chipset?
[03:16] <aram> Jack_Sparrow: no i can not i need to boot in safe mode
[03:16] <stefano> falieson, well, if it displays the ATI device in volume manager it seems as if it's able to use it. i just don't know how to switch your primary sound device. did you have a look in system -> settings -> audio?
[03:16] <steel_lady> stefano, when I go over that connection icon for wireless, it says: status: error. I have to put that wireless, I am freazing in the room without heating, I need to work in the mor normal place tommorrow
[03:17] <aram> mneptok: standard is the one i am using now and linux is installed on it
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> aram: Again, sorry to ask, but did you identify your mb type?
[03:17] <NoctisDei> hello. my graphic card is an ATI Mobility Radeon X1350 and it was detected but when i type "glxinfo | grep render" it says "direct rendering: No"... :(
[03:17] <aram> mneptok: but it give me same error
[03:17] <serenityUK> aram: which motherboard... is it new P35?
[03:17] <aram> Jack_Sparrow: no
[03:17] <aram> Jack_Sparrow:  my lab top is dell inspiron 1520
[03:17] <mneptok> aram: what motherboard and bridge chipsets?
[03:18] <aram> Jack_Sparrow: and i do not know to find that information
[03:18] <stefano> steel_lady, i have some time..
[03:18] <falieson> stefano: I've seen other people that have had the same probem
[03:18] <aram> mneptok:  that is the thing i was explaining to others i dont know how to find the information
[03:18] <aram> mneptok: please help me what should i type ?
[03:18] <stefano> steel_lady, does it list any networks at all?
[03:18] <EADG> Is there a way to watch what a user logged in via ssh is doing real time throught the CLI?
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> aram: Dell laptop is fine.  I have a couple of those that had issues.  I had to burn slow..  I also hit F6 at start ot install  then noapic added to the boot line
[03:18] <aram> mneptok: in order to find that information
[03:19] <Jed-o> sorry comp crashed =D
[03:19] <stefano> falconer, ATI is not too nice to linux users, so you might have to tweak some to get it to work or it might even not work at all
[03:19] <mneptok> aram: you have not installed Ubuntu correctly on the internal hard disk
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> aram: IF you have tried that, then I am sorry for interrupting this conversation
[03:19] <Jed-o> is there a way to get hsync, etc from a windows install?
[03:19] <falieson> stefano: I'm not using ATI, its a nvidia card :-P
[03:19] <aram> mneptok: no on the external
[03:19] <Vadi> Where can I find the firmware for broadcom 43xx? It's requesting it.
[03:19] <soldats> !broadcom
[03:19] <ubotu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[03:20] <aram> Jack_Sparrow: i have put break=top in boot line by pressing f6
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Vadi: fwcutter should go out and get it.
[03:20] <Vadi> Jack_Sparrow: So, I cancel the dialog request?
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> aram: noapic is what worked on a couple of my Dells
[03:20] <stefano> falieson, oh sorry, someone else mentioned the exact same issue but with an ati card :) well, thing is, HDMI is copyright protected, and this is Windows-only i think
[03:20] <aram> mneptok: as i said both sata and ide which is external are same
[03:20] <mneptok> aram: you need to download Gutsy, and you need to install it on the *INTERNAL HARD DISK*
[03:20] <steel_lady> stefano it says: contact your system administrator to resolve the following problem: could not find information on interface 'eth:avahi' in /proc/net/dev
[03:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Vadi: USe the link provided, carefully and it should be fine
[03:21] <dzer0> hello
[03:21] <mneptok> aram: an external drive attached to an Inspiron 1520 is not SATA. it's USB.
[03:21] <aram> mneptok: i need my internall because of having 2003 server on it
[03:21] <serenityUK> dzer0: welcome
[03:21] <aram> mneptok: and i am using gusty version now
[03:21] <dzer0> I've got ubuntu 7.10 installed on my laptop. Would it be possible to add a new partition to my drive and put XP on it so I can dual boot without reinstalling linux?
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> mneptok: I will bow out.. just uploading my work for the week..   thought I would hang while it uploaded
[03:22] <aram> mneptok: u do not pay attention i said with both sata and external i get same error and need to type that command in order to boot
[03:22] <mneptok> aram: i am paying attention
[03:22] <robdig> !dualboot | dzer0
[03:22] <ubotu> dzer0: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[03:22] <serenityUK> dzer0: yes but you will need to reinstall GRUB menu after windows
[03:22] <dzer0> ok thanks
[03:22] <aram> Jack_Sparrow: how could i change the boot line now
[03:23] <mellery> can anyone tell me how to fix "E: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-11-generic: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1" please? I'm getting it using synaptic, but i'm not using that kernel
[03:23] <stefano> steel_lady, one second
[03:23] <serenityUK> dzer0: windows takes over pc when install but just the menu.. ubuntu is still there aslong as u choose the correct partition
[03:23] <aram> Jack_Sparrow: because i have already installed the ubuntu and there is no way to change a boot line again
[03:23] <mneptok> aram: first you said "this problem happens even on the internal SATA drive" and 2 minutes later said "i haven't installed it to the internal drive, i need Win2003 there." which is it?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> aram: if you can get to cli or any livecd that will boot you can manually edit it
[03:24] <aram> mneptok: ok if you listen i have tried both on internal give me that error and i afraid of lossing my data
[03:24] <stefano> steel_lady, please open up a terminal and type "lspci | grep net" (without "") and tell me what it says
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> aram: Based on what mneptok says you dont have a good install to begin with
[03:24] <Old_Gregg> Anyone tried using ventrillo with Ubuntu and actually got it to work?
[03:24] <aram> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[03:24] <mneptok> aram: is mUbuntu installed to the internal hard disk? yes or no?
[03:24] <aram> mneptok: no
[03:24] <EADG> Is there a way to watch what a user logged in via ssh is doing real time throught the CLI?
[03:24] <bmack> i downloaded a file for my video card how do install it
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> mneptok: goodnight and good luck..
[03:24] <bmack> .run
[03:24] <mneptok> aram: has Ubuntu *ever been installed on the internal hard disk? yes or no.
[03:24] <aram> mneptok: yes
[03:25] <steel_lady> stefano 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
[03:25] <mneptok> aram: Gutsy will not have that Busybox error on a good install to an internal disk on the Insprion 1520,
[03:25] <mneptok> aram: period.
[03:25] <aram> mneptok: but now it has
[03:25] <zombie__> i need ati 0x5a37 driver i cant find it nor can i figure out how the hell to install it
[03:26] <mneptok> aram: no, as you cannot guarantee it's a *good* install
[03:26] <zombie__> comes up as unknown in device manager
[03:26] <aram> mneptok:  you know what happen is that each time give me busy box and i have to enter the exit
[03:26] <zombie__> can anyone help?
[03:26] <mneptok> aram: Gutsy will not have that Busybox error *****on a good install***** to an internal disk on the Insprion 1520,
[03:26] <zombie__> ?
[03:26] <nickrud> zombie_, try lspci | grep -i vga in a terminal, that should tell you more about the card
[03:26] <mneptok> aram: re-install Gutsy to the internal hard drive.
[03:26] <aram> mneptok: what would be good install i havent doen any thing wrong
[03:26] <stefano> steel_lady, okay now just type lsusb it should say something about wireless
[03:26] <zombie__> kk
[03:26] <aram> mneptok: but i have 2003 on it and can not do that
[03:27] <stefano> this is to find out what kind of network adapter you have steel_lady
[03:27] <zombie__> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE)
[03:27] <zombie__> k now what? :)
[03:27] <mneptok> aram: too bad, then
[03:27] <aram> mneptok: but trust me i know about system and i have installed the ubuntu on it before with same probelm
[03:27] <aram> mneptok: just tell me that
[03:27] <kriel> Hello everybody. When I first installed 7.10, it automagically detected my video card beautifully. However, I just recently (about 10 minutes and a reboot ago) tried to activate a second monitor for dual-monitoring, and it screwed over my display configuration. I managed to remember what driver I was using (intel) however it still dosen't have my choice of resolution in the dropdown box. I was thinking of manually editing my xorg.conf, bu
[03:27] <aram> mneptok: is there any way i could solve it ?
[03:27] <mneptok> aram: re-install Gutsy to the internal hard drive.
[03:28] <nickrud> zombie_, is anything wrong with your display?
[03:28] <zombie__> ?
[03:28] <zombie__> umm
[03:28] <aram> mneptok: hehe you mean that much linux is weak os i dont belive
[03:28] <steel_lady> stefano http://pastebin.com/
[03:28] <zombie__> well not really... i just cant do the effects and a few other things
[03:28] <aram> mneptok: there must be a way
[03:28] <zombie__> if i change the res it gets fuzzy
[03:28] <aram> mneptok: and i try every way
[03:28] <steel_lady> stefano http://pastebin.com/m1ae38d05
[03:28] <scguy318> kriel: you could try regenerating a default xorg.conf, for what it's worth
[03:28] <aram> mneptok: any way thanks a lot
[03:28] <zombie__> white screens when i try to do the bg effects
[03:28] <dragonforce99> !enter | aram
[03:28] <scguy318> kriel: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:28] <ubotu> aram: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:28] <umops> !pastebin
[03:28] <zombie__> etc
[03:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:29] <mneptok> aram: no, i mean "a user who is using a new OS for the very first time, and has limited knowledge of computer internals, should probably not try getting a Unix OS to run off an external USB disk."
[03:29] <kriel> scguy318: what's the -phigh do? everything else in that command looks relatively familiar...
[03:29] <stefano> steel_lady, great, can you do the same with "lspci"?
[03:29] <Vadi> How can I unload/disable ndiswrapper?
[03:29] <nickrud> zombie_, ok for effects:    run restricted-manager in a terminal, select ati restricted. reboot. That will install the right driver. There's a couple more steps, I'll be waiting
[03:29] <zombie__> let me try
[03:29] <umops> bulmer, here is the configs etc http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49243/
[03:30] <scguy318> kriel: only asks you for important questions, the only question being the module
[03:30] <ubuntu> helo
[03:30] <dragonforce99> mneptok: is there a way to get Ubuntu to boot off of a flash drive? I assume it's possible.. I'm not talking about a flash drive
[03:30] <scguy318> kriel: the rest will be auto-generated
[03:30] <aram> mneptok: i do have good knowledge and can understand what do you mean but i dont know whay instead of trying targue with me you do not help me
[03:30] <zombie__> how do i run restricted-manager and select ati restricted?
[03:30] <zombie__> lol sorry
[03:30] <steel_lady> stefano http://pastebin.com/m7d4a7812
[03:30] <stefano> !ndiswrapper
[03:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:30] <kriel> scguy318: okay. Thank you much. I'll go try that.
[03:30] <nickrud> zombie_, in a terminal, type restricted-manager
[03:30] <zombie__> says must be run as root
[03:30] <setianto> halo
[03:30] <Vadi> zombie__: put 'sudo' before it
[03:31] <dragonforce99> Aram: Please stop arguing with him, it is only adding rubbish to the channel. The man/woman knows what it is talking about
[03:31] <aram> mneptok: i havent got tht much information about hardware because never need it but has as much as need for networking and...
[03:31] <nickrud> zombie__, it should be asking for a password. (does here)  if it doesn't, use gksudo restricted-manager
[03:31] <zombie__> got it
[03:31] <redbrain> :)
[03:31] <kriel> scguy318: ... it's asking me what resolutions I want to use... did I mess up the command?
[03:31] <zombie__> says restricted drivers in order for this computer to function properly
[03:31] <nickrud> !gksudo | vadi
[03:31] <ubotu> vadi: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[03:31] <zombie__> ubuntu may be using driver software that cannot be supported
[03:31] <falieson> so yeah, still - as far as my research shows... no audio over hdmi right?
[03:32] <redbrain> ubuntu <3 ftw! :D
[03:32] <nickrud> zombie__, yup, that's the one. It's the 3d driver from ati, packaged up by ubuntu for easy installation
[03:32] <zombie__> because the software is proprietary it cannot easily be changed to fix and future probs
[03:32] <Tornadochas3r01> hello
[03:32] <scguy318> kriel: possibly
[03:32] <zombie__> so thats the one that should be used?
[03:32] <scguy318> kriel: when you run the command as I've written, you should only be asked for module, if I'm not mistaken
[03:32] <zombie__> it says its in use
[03:32] <Tornadochas3r01> can someone help me with apache and php
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> falieson: are you trying to pump output to a bigscreen with dvi to hd cable?
[03:32] <dragonforce99> is there a way to run something as fullscreen default?
[03:32] <aram> dragonforce99: i will stop it but if this is the community that just do not help and ... why this channal is for support i just need hel nothing else as in this channal some people has helped me alot
[03:32] <scguy318> kriel: is what you're getting same as before?
[03:32] <zombie__> so now what?
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> aram: You are not listening to "Good Advice"
[03:33] <OrangeLemon94> hi ppl
[03:33] <Tornadochas3r01> i dont know how to add .php to apache so when a run phpbb2 i can get to the install page
[03:33] <aram> dragonforce99: you know after like 48 hour totally i want to make my system work not argue
[03:33] <stefano> steel_lady, your wireless card is very new and not very well supported. try this: sudo ipw3945d-2.6.22-14-386
[03:33] <nickrud> zombie_, ok, good. now, type fglrxinfo in the terminal, the last line will hopefully be similar to OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)
[03:33] <bmoney> anyone here use ubuntu-studio, there is no one in the support channel there
[03:33] <dragonforce99> aram: well, don't argue then, listen to "Good Advice"
[03:33] <stefano> steel_lady, if it doesnt work, you have to install your driver with "ndiswrapper"
[03:34] <aram> Jack_Sparrow: i am listinig but i said please belive i have same same problem with sata hard drive as well
[03:34] <umops> I am having toruble with a computer not finding finding the NW/ not recieving DHCP IP..  please have a look at my pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49243/
[03:34] <scragar> could someone drop the list of desktop recording stuff please?
[03:34] <zombie__> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[03:34] <zombie__> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:34] <zombie__> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:34] <zombie__> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[03:34] <zombie__> says that
[03:34] <stefano> steel_lady, i have to go now, but i have found a thread in the forums where somebody has the same problem. maybe you can find some help there: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=645746
[03:34] <zombie__> so yeah somethings not right
[03:34] <aram> dragonforce99: i just have same problem because i have done that last week and just fdisk the partiton and loss my data
[03:35] <stefano> steel_lady, i hope you can work it out. bye
[03:35] <aram> finally can any one help or i need to find the way by my self?
[03:35] <steel_lady> stefano
[03:35] <stefano> yes
[03:35] <steel_lady> sudo: ipw3945d-2.6.22-14-386: command not found
[03:35] <bulmer> umops-> why would you set an ip address and also have dhcp settings on? conflict of address acquisition
[03:35] <zombie__> :(
[03:35] <nickrud> zombie_, if it says it's in use, try sudo modprobe fglrx  , then log out, hit ctl-alt-backspace, then log back in
[03:35] <tim> plz say again how do i upgrade to 2.6.24 kernel?
[03:35] <dragonforce99> does anyone know how to get an application to run in full screen by default?
[03:35] <Tornadochas3r01>                                                                   nvm
[03:35] <zombie__> then what?
[03:35] <dragonforce99> and aram: I have no clue how to help, sorry
[03:36] <zombie__> come  back  here? haha
[03:36] <stefano> steel_lady, do you know what version of ubuntu is running?
[03:36] <nickrud> zombie_, that will load the kernel module that allows 3d action. Then we'll run the fglrxinfo command again, see if it worked
[03:36] <aram> dragonforce99: thats ok
[03:36] <zombie__> kk
[03:36] <zombie__> brb
[03:36] <stefano> steel_lady, gutsy or feisty?
[03:36] <doctor_thunder> does Ubuntu64 support flash yet?
[03:36] <umops> bulmer, i dont know, i  did try static at one stage, should i remove the stuff in /etc/network/interfaces?
[03:36] <scguy318> doctor_thunder: with nspluginwrapper it sure does
[03:36] <scragar> could someone please give me the keyword for ubotu to list desktop recording software for me please?
[03:36] <tim> Plz tell me how to upgrade to 2.6.24 kernel ????
[03:36] <aram> is there any other channal that i could try maybe i get answer for it/?
[03:36] <steel_lady> stefano, i am runnoing feisty. it was connecting without any problem before
[03:37] <scguy318> doctor_thunder: in Gutsy the use of ndiswrapper is automated in flashplugin-nonfree
[03:37] <steel_lady> stefano it happened in last few days
[03:37] <soldats> !screencast
[03:37] <doctor_thunder> cool
[03:37] <scragar> soldats: thank you
[03:37] <bulmer> umops-> think about it, you asked for an ip address to be doled out to you and yet you have set the address already..so which will it be?
[03:37] <ubotu> Some programs to capture your screen are Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.
[03:37] <zombie_> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[03:37] <zombie_> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:37] <zombie_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:37] <soldats> scragar, it just popped up
[03:37] <zombie_> OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
[03:37] <tato> can anyone suggest an application launcher?
[03:37] <zombie_> did it change anything?
[03:37] <nickrud> zombie_, please don't paste here
[03:37] <dragonforce99> aram: try the documentation and other support functions on the ubuntu website; other than that i recommend you lay back and relax, let the computer sit and come back to it later :)
[03:37] <EADG> Is there a way to watch what a user logged in via ssh is doing real time throught the CLI?
[03:38] <stefano> steel_lady, feisty is an older version. the newest version is Gutsy Gibbon. i think if you update to gusty gibbon it will work! :D
[03:38] <nickrud> zombie_, no, no better.  Did you try installing the driver from the ati web site?
[03:38] <zombie_> nick hes helping me with something
[03:38] <tim> EADG, plz tell me how to upgrade to 2.6.24 kernel?
[03:38] <zombie_> yeah thats what this pos is
[03:38] <stefano> steel_lady, press Alt+F2 and type gksudo update-manager -c -d
[03:38] <stefano> steel_lady, i hope it works after the update, but i think so.
[03:38] <zombie_> any more ideas?
[03:39] <steel_lady> stefano I can not update because I don't have the space on my hard disk and I can not change anything because I have some special programs installed to do my PhD that I can not install again
[03:39] <nickrud> zombie_, that is a pain to recover from.
[03:39] <Memot> I just ran Ubuntu from the live CD i burned, can anyone explain me why was it so slow and laggy? (I loved it, even if it was really slow)
[03:39] <bulmer> EADG-> not that am aware of
[03:39] <EADG> tim: Not sure.
[03:39] <aram> dragonforce99:  i try to solve it but can you help me with that how could i find the way that i can install me sound device
[03:39] <zombie_> what is?
[03:39] <nickrud> zombie_, a failed install using the ati installer.
[03:39] <bulmer> Memot-> you are running off a cd, so every time it needs something, it read from a cd drive..which is slow
[03:39] <tim> Zombie plz tell me how to upgrade kernel ?
[03:39] <stefano> steel_lady, the programs you have install will still be there after the update
[03:39] <dragonforce99> aram: What is your exact issue?
[03:39] <aram> dragonforce99: i mean how could i get the driver
[03:39] <stefano> steel_lady, but you need about 2gb free disk space to update
[03:39] <zombie_> tim im here to learn not to answer
[03:40] <zombie_> ok so nick what do i do bro?
[03:40] <dragonforce99> Aram: You might try using the synaptics package manager, or searching for the sound card you have and linux drivers
[03:40] <stefano> steel_lady, i read that it works good in gutsy gibbon
[03:40] <steel_lady> stefano I do not have it
[03:40] <stefano> :(
[03:40] <aram> dragonforce99: my ubuntu doesnt have sound and this is model of my sound 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[03:40] <tim> dragonforce99,  plz tell me how to upgrade the kerenl?
[03:40] <Beererde>  how do i find out the version of ubuntu?
[03:40] <umops> bulmer, ok wellI got ridof the static conf in that file, now what?
[03:40] <steel_lady> stefano I tried to expand the partition to make spacve but it was refusing
[03:40] <aram> dragonforce99: in synaptic what shall i type model of my sound drive?
[03:40] <nickrud> zombie_, wait a sec while I look something up. These steps work *sometimes*
[03:41] <zombie_> kk
[03:41] <stefano> steel_lady, you can move some files over to the windows partition to free some space
[03:41] <bulmer> umops-> are you at work? whose router is doling out the ip addresses?
[03:41] <stefano> steel_lady, i have to go, bye
[03:41] <steel_lady> stefano, I moved everything but system files
[03:41] <umops> bulmer, I have full access to the router
[03:41] <dragonforce99> aram: one second
[03:41] <aram> ?
[03:42] <bulmer> umops->  whose router is doling out the ip addresses?
[03:42] <aram> dragonforce99: ok
[03:42] <Jack_Sparrow> steel_lady: Did you flush or burn to disk /var/cache/apt/archives/       ?
[03:42] <maltron> hi all.  Having a problem with sound in ubuntu 7.10 for amd64
[03:42] <thenumber42> !compatibility
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compatibility - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <steel_lady> Jack_sparrow, no I didn't why?
[03:42] <thenumber42> !compabible
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compabible - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <thenumber42> where is the hardware compatibility list?
[03:42] <umops> bulmer, mine.  I have reset it once already (it issues ip's to other nix an windows boxes fine)
[03:43] <maltron> sound is stuffed unless I fiddle with the balance - which doesn't behave as expected.  Can anyone help?
[03:43] <soldats> thenumber42, for what piece of hardware
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> steel_lady: That is where all deb downloads are stored, you can burn them to a disk cd or dvd for later if you need them and free up a ton of spacce
[03:43] <bulmer> umops-> can you elaborate on how your network is setup? what is connected to what?
[03:43] <thenumber42> lexmark x1185 printer
[03:43] <nickrud> zombie_, while I'm doing that, you need to get back to a default X install.  in a terminal,  run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , then log out and back in.
[03:43] <soldats> !lexmark
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lexmark - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:43]  * thenumber42 loves ubuntu
[03:43] <alesan> !webcam
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> steel_lady: Look and see how much is in that directory
[03:43] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:43] <tato> how do i use "launch-box"?
[03:43] <umops> bulmer, a bunch of cmputers cnnect to a switch and then into a router/modem
[03:43] <soldats> thenumber42, does it not work
[03:43] <robdig> !hardware | thenumber42:
[03:43] <ubotu> thenumber42:: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> thenumber42:  LExmark tend to be a problem...
[03:44] <umurtu> guys anybody familiar with alsa drivers/
[03:44] <dragonforce99> aram: the driver you are looking for is snd-hda-intel
[03:44] <bmoney> lexmark is highly unsupported
[03:44] <steel_lady> Jack_Sparrow 0 files there
[03:44]  * thenumber42 cries, I'm trying to put ubuntu on my mom's computer
[03:44] <thenumber42> so i don't have to constantly save her from spyware hell
[03:44] <bulmer> umops-> nothing else in between the host that you're attempting to get an ip address and your switches?
[03:44] <aram> dragonforce99: what shall i do with this name?
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> steel did you already fulsy it?
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> flush
[03:45] <alesan> !webcam
[03:45] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:45] <kyu_flux> thenumber42: good luck with that - I dunno I love linux and still have my issues with it (compared to windows)
[03:45]  * thenumber42 willl take a plunge and hope he can find a way to make it work
[03:45] <bmoney> thenumber42, what model is your printer?
[03:45] <dragonforce99> aram: i do not know yet, lol, sorry. I searched the synaptic package manager and it didn't appear, so one second
[03:45] <thenumber42> lexmark x1185
[03:45] <aram> ok
[03:45] <thenumber42> I installed gutsy on my home server and it's GREAT
[03:45] <Jack_Sparrow> steel_lady: it should still have a folder called partial and lockd
[03:45] <umops> bulmer, nope, thats why i don'tlike the look of it trying to release an IP to some other domain (192.168.1.x)
[03:45] <thenumber42> I'm thinking of building a mythbuntu box
[03:46] <tim> Hi how do I upgrade kernel to 2.6.24 in stable ubuntu ?
[03:46] <umurtu> guys i get the following error .. does anybody know how to fix it ... no volume control gstreamer plugins and/or devices found
[03:46] <bulmer> umops-> per your posting, I didnt see it release anything in 192.168.x.x ..where are you getting that info?
[03:46] <tim> plz tell me
[03:46] <thenumber42> umurter | !alsa
[03:46] <dragonforce99> aram: private message me
[03:46] <umurtu> nobody answering in alsa :S
[03:46] <bmoney> thenumber42, i have a lexmark all in one device, and i have researched, and it is very unsupported by linux,  lexmark in general too
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> steel_lady: Double check.. mine has a couple hundred meg
[03:46] <aram> dragonforce99: what is that mean?
[03:46] <steel_lady> Jack_sparrow, yes the complete Archive folder with those 2 contains 4K in total
[03:47] <thenumber42> bmoney: thank you, but the magical gutsy ferrry will find a way with mine
[03:47] <Jack_Sparrow> so you already flushed them
[03:47] <thenumber42> ;)
[03:47] <umops> bulmer,  :~$ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart ... -> DHCPRELEASE on eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> port 67
[03:47] <umops> send_packet: Network is unreachable
[03:47] <dragonforce99> aram: nevermind, here, go here: http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/ hit ctrl-f and type in that driver name
[03:47] <mongo1> during my installation it stops at "6% says Please wait..."
[03:47] <mongo1> is there anyway to correct this?
[03:47] <bulmer> umops-> oops yeah i saw one, but thats before where you have both static and dhcp, now does it still do the same?
[03:47] <bmoney> thenumber42, well keep me informed :)
[03:47] <thenumber42> mongo1: did you do thte cd-check
[03:47] <aram> thanks a lot
[03:47] <dragonforce99> aram: there should be a section about "getting sound to work on your ubuntu 7.1 installation" follow that
[03:48] <mongo1> thenumber42: no where do i do that at the first menu?
[03:48] <thenumber42> yes, when it boots
[03:48] <mongo1> k thnks
[03:48] <aram> Dragonforce99:i will do thanks  a lot
[03:48] <thenumber42> it should have an option for a "cd check"
[03:48] <thenumber42> did you do a crc check as well of t he iso?
[03:48] <umops> bulmer,  yes it does
[03:49] <Cubexombi> hey guys I'm wondering if someone can give me a hand with X, a screen saver or movie running, (full screen and windowed) looks like it's having overlay issues.
[03:49] <thenumber42> !crc
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <bulmer> umops-> what ip addresses do you expect your dhcpserver to dole out? what is the ip addresses of those other unix systems thats on same subnet as this one?
[03:49] <Cubexombi> I'm using the opensource radeon drivers,
[03:49] <young> why my laptop cpu always run at 800MHz, even if I run superpi, it does change it's frequency
[03:50] <mongo1> thenumber42: it failed the check so what do i do?
[03:50] <umops> bulmer, the IP is going to be 10.1.1.x , that's why I had the now deleted static info in there (was experimenting)
[03:50] <young> sorry, it does not change its frequency
[03:50] <flake> does anyone order from usbgear?  I see several usb 2.0 switches (yay!!) to share between computers.. their website doesn't have any consumer reviews or forum
[03:50] <bulmer> umops-> you have verified that the other nix are getting 192.168.x.x? or they are 10.1.1.x ?
[03:51] <umops> bulmer, they are 10.1.1.x
[03:51] <thenumber42> mongo1: it failed the cd-check?
[03:51] <Beererde> how can i find out which ubuntu version i am running?
[03:51] <thenumber42> you have a coaster then
[03:51] <mongo1> thenumber42: yes
[03:51] <thenumber42> mongo1: did you do a md5 of the iso?
[03:51] <mongo1> thenumber42: no how do i do that in windows?
[03:51] <thenumber42> !md5 | mongo1
[03:51] <ubotu> mongo1: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:51] <bulmer> umops-> now if you just ifup eth0; ifconfig  what ip address is assigned to your nic if any?
[03:52] <thenumber42> :)\
[03:52] <thenumber42> have patience, I had these issues myself
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Beererde: lsb_release -a
[03:52] <Beererde> Jack_Sparrow: thx
[03:52] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[03:52] <thenumber42> does ubuntu come with an ftp client?
[03:53] <umops> bulmer, it's exactly the same as the previous pastebin
[03:53] <soldats> !ftp
[03:53] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> mongo1: NEro has a freeware md5 checker
[03:53] <thenumber42> :)
[03:53] <thenumber42> ty soldats
[03:53] <bulmer> umops-> which is what?
[03:53] <thenumber42> I need to ! b4 I do anything
[03:53] <thenumber42> ;)
[03:53] <soldats> thenumber42, heh ;P
[03:53] <umops> bulmer, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49243/
[03:53] <dragonforce99> does anyone know how to make a screen default to fullscreen?
[03:53] <John___> i have linux fedora ...are this good??
[03:53] <soldats> F11
[03:54] <bulmer> umops-> no ip address assigned at all?
[03:54] <umops> bulmer, correct
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > John___:
[03:54] <bulmer> umops-> are you sure there are no other boxes running dhcp on same subnet?
[03:54] <dragonforce99> soldats: if that was to me, it doesn't work.. i am doing this on flash player 9
[03:54] <soldats> oh
[03:54] <soldats> sorry
[03:54]  * thenumber42 is going down for a complete overhaul and clean install of good ol' gutsy
[03:55] <thenumber42> !release
[03:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[03:55] <soldats> if the flash player has a button to do fullscreen click it
[03:55] <mongo1> thenumber42: where do i get the md5sum from?
[03:55] <dragonforce99> yes soldat but I want it to do that everytime
[03:55] <mongo1> its not on the ubuntu download page
[03:55] <young> who can help , my laptop cpu does not change its frequency
[03:55] <dragonforce99> like, automaximise
[03:56] <pg> My camera is not auto-mounted when I plug it in by USB.  I have enabled the options in System -> Preferences -> Removable drives and media.  When I run gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h, I get error "arguments to dbus_message_new_method_call() were incorrect ... This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library", but the photo import window opens and I can import the photos.
[03:56] <thenumber42> !nextrelease
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nextrelease - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <brophat> My wireless nic always times out when I boot my puter, but always logs on after I manually click it after it times out; this process always takes about 3-4 mins and is very annoying
[03:56] <thenumber42> !Hoary
[03:56] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) was the second release of Ubuntu.  End Of Life: October 31, 2006. See !eol for more details.
[03:56] <Balaams_Miracle> I'm trying to build me a nice playlist. If i use the command 'find /media/hdc1/Music -type f -name "*.mp3" > ~/playlist' i get all the MP3 files, but i want the OGGs to be in the playlist too. How can i do this?
[03:56] <soldats> dragonforce99, some flash player will do it automatically but i think you have to click the button
[03:56] <dragonforce99> !eol
[03:56] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[03:56] <dragonforce99> okay soldats
[03:56] <thenumber42> what's the next update?
[03:56] <dragonforce99> thanks
[03:56] <thenumber42> !flash
[03:56] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[03:57] <robdig> !hardy | thenumber42
[03:57] <ubotu> thenumber42: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[03:57] <dystopianray> thenumber42: hardy heron 8.04
[03:57] <young> who can help me, my laptop cpu does not change its frequency
[03:57] <pg> mongo1: google for it
[03:57] <RenatoSilva> may I upgrade from feisty 32-bit to gutsy 64-bit?
[03:57] <redd0t> young: what?
[03:57] <brophat> anyone have experience with this?
[03:57] <RenatoSilva> may I upgrade from feisty 32-bit to gutsy 64-bit?
[03:57] <dystopianray> RenatoSilva: you need to reinstall
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> RenatoSilva: no
[03:57] <umops> bulmer, yes :(
[03:57] <RenatoSilva> dystopianray: :(
[03:58] <young> redd0t : my laptop always run at 800MHz, but it's max frequency is 1.8GHz, can you help me?
[03:58] <Johnson> has anyone had the problem with the unpromted hibernations.
[03:58] <soldats> dragonforce99, well im sorry but i really dont know if you can do it automaticcally but if the flash player supports it you can fullscreen. i dont mean to be rude but i think thats how flash works
[03:58] <RenatoSilva> the last time I used a 64-bit ubuntu it was ugly. What about now, it really works fine? I have a Core 2 Duo
[03:58] <redd0t> young: wow! um. idk. i have never had that problem. before.
[03:58] <mongo1> ok i got the md5sum code... now what do i do make a txt file and put it in there with an extension .md5?
[03:59] <bulmer> umops-> do you have /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf ? pastebin it pleae
[03:59] <dystopianray> RenatoSilva: stick with 32-bit ubuntu, unless you have a very good reason to go to 64-bit ubuntu
[03:59] <mongo1> pg: ok i got the md5sum code... now what do i do make a txt file and put it in there with an extension .md5?
[03:59] <RenatoSilva> Jack_Sparrow: the most of the packages in repositories as generic (32/64) right???
[03:59] <soldats> Johnson, what exactly do you mean
[04:00] <young> I notice this when I run superpi, I found it take much more time than usual, then I saw that the CPU frequency is too low, and it stay at low frequency
[04:00] <RenatoSilva> dystopianray: 64 looks faster, and I thought I'd be"obviously" better...so , there are problems  still ?
[04:00] <pg> mongo1: if you are running Linux already, open a terminal and type "md5sum FILE" where FILE is the file you downloaded.  That calculates the md5sum of the file.  If you are running Windows, search the web for a Windows program to do that.
[04:00] <umops> bulmer, yes, just a seconf
[04:00] <RenatoSilva> Jack_Sparrow: the most packages are generic right?
[04:00] <dystopianray> RenatoSilva: it's neither faster nor better
[04:01] <mongo1> pg: i did i got this link http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:01] <Johnson> soldats: when my computer is on suspend for a long time, not exactly sure the frame but lets say 30 minutes, and I come back. the unlock screen box shows up, i log back in, everthing is normal. i get an error box in the corner that says either"computer failed to suspend" or "computer failed to hibernate" then the computer just hibernates. this happens without fail for suspends of 30minutes or longer
[04:01] <RenatoSilva> how does the 64 bit packages' world works?
[04:01] <mongo1> pg: im at the step "md5sum -c filename.md5"
[04:01] <Beererde> young: cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU1/throttling
[04:01] <soldats> Johnson, i recall hearing a bug about suspend and hibernation
[04:01] <young> it gives this: state count:             8
[04:01] <young> active state:            T0
[04:01] <young> states:
[04:01] <young>    *T0:                  00%
[04:01] <young>     T1:                  12%
[04:01] <young>     T2:                  25%
[04:01] <RenatoSilva> dystopianray: why it's not better? so what's a 64-bit cpu supposed to do?
[04:01] <young>     T3:                  37%
[04:02] <soldats> !enter | young
[04:02] <young>     T4:                  50%
[04:02] <ubotu> young: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:02] <young>     T5:                  62%
[04:02] <young>     T6:                  75%
[04:02] <Beererde> young: ok its not throttled
[04:02] <young>     T7:                  87%
[04:02] <dystopianray> RenatoSilva: the main benefit is access to more than 4GB of ram
[04:02] <soldats> !pastebin
[04:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> dystopianray: only this?
[04:02] <RenatoSilva> dystopianray: :(
[04:02] <soldats> !suspend
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > young
[04:03] <soldats> already donr
[04:03] <aram> Jack_Sparrow: i just come back to say thanks very much
[04:03] <phrac> !freebsd
[04:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freebsd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <dystopianray> RenatoSilva: there are other benefits with certain tasks but mainly it's the increase address space
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> aram: For what?
[04:03] <young> I'm sorry, I am new to irc, I did not know how to do that you say
[04:03] <soldats> google it
[04:03] <aram> Jack_Sparrow: because noapic work for me as well
[04:03] <Johnson> soldats i tried searching for it but its hard to find i haven't found anything about it yet. but its extremely annoying as most people know ubuntu takes forever to unhibernate
[04:03] <umops> bulmer, here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49245/
[04:03] <aram> Jack_Sparrow: and i am feel a bit better
[04:03] <RenatoSilva> dystopianray: :'(
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> aram: I am sorry for your troubles, but the person helping you IS very good and deserves a thank you as well...
[04:04] <brophat> any know what might make a wireless nic take a long time to connect?
[04:04] <aram> Jack_Sparrow: i add noapic to the end of kernel and it work
[04:04] <coded1> i have run ubuntu before without a problem until i got the xfx6200 video card, when I boot 7.10 I get flashing multicolored lines on my crt (analog) and blank on my lcd (Digital)
[04:04] <aram> Jack_Sparrow: who you mean ?
[04:04] <RenatoSilva> does grub catch vista?
[04:04] <dystopianray> brophat: low signal strength
[04:04] <Jack_Sparrow> aram:   Please thank nmo when you see him
[04:05] <pg> mongo1: sorry, I did know that's how this program worked.  Apparently, you put the md5 of the correct file in a file and execture "md5sum -c filename.md5" and it should calculate the md5sums of all the iso files.  You should also be able to just make it calculate the md5 of the file and compare it visually to the correct one.
[04:05] <brophat> dystopianray but when it connects it stays connected
[04:05] <soldats> Johnson, it takes me about 1 minute to "un"-hibernate. but i was saying there may still be a bug in the suspending of ubuntu
[04:05] <pg> My camera is not auto-mounted when I plug it in by USB.  I have enabled the options in System -> Preferences -> Removable drives and media.  When I run gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h, I get error "arguments to dbus_message_new_method_call() were incorrect ... This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library", but the photo import window opens and I can import the photos.
[04:05] <aram> Jack_Sparrow: i will do no worries any way  thanks a lot and also dragonforce99 thanks for you as well
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> aram: Welcome to ubuntu....   and understand not all answers are available all the time
[04:05] <soldats> Johnson, how long does it take you
[04:05] <dystopianray> brophat: does it operate slowly when connected?
[04:05] <Jack_Sparrow> aram: thank you and goodnight
[04:05] <fark0> oh lawd
[04:05] <aram> Jack_Sparrow: you too
[04:05] <fark0> What seperates ubuntu from other distros?
[04:05] <Johnson> soldats i'd say about a minute and a half plus the 30 seconds or so it takes to hibernate
[04:05] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: yes i had triple boot before i deleted vista
[04:05] <brophat> dystopianray not that I can tell; I am very happy with it
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Support
[04:06] <mongo1> where can i find a properly formatted md5 file ? or how do i make one all i have is the code.
[04:06] <Johnson> over all its a nuisance to log in then have to wait 2 minutes to do anything
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> fark0:  Support
[04:06] <dragonforce99> no problem aram
[04:06] <tim> OK i found deb headers now how do i make them appear during the boot?
[04:06] <RenatoSilva> does grub catch vista? I want to upgrade feisty, and want to install vista, and i have already an XP. So what should I do??
[04:06] <eqwweq> #
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> dragonforce99: Thanks from me as well
[04:06] <serenityUK> fark0: the busy forums at www.ubuntuforums.org and the large repos.. basically the community
[04:06] <dragonforce99> eh? how'd i help you jack?
[04:06] <aram> dragonforce99: sorry for argue and .. i am still trying to make other thing work :d
[04:06] <bulmer> umops-> try to add this line on that file   interface "eth0:1" {
[04:06] <bulmer>    send dhcp-client-identifier "myhost-eth0:1" ; }
[04:06] <aram> :D
[04:07] <Jack_Sparrow> dragonforce99: By trying to help him...
[04:07] <robdig> mongo1: are you doing the md5sum on windows?
[04:07] <RenatoSilva> upgrade would re-detect the OS'es ?
[04:07] <dragonforce99> oh hehe
[04:07] <soldats> Johnson, id suggest not using hibernate, its perfectly fine to leave it sit, just if you need to save all work and close apps so you get no memory leaks. i havent used suspend in 5 years
[04:07] <mongo1> robdig: yes
[04:07] <pg> mongo: try typing "md5sum Ubuntu-iso-file.iso"
[04:07] <mongo1> k
[04:07] <snozle> can someone tell me the path to a mounted network volume?
[04:07] <brophat> dystopianray always on boot of my puter the wireless nic always times out, and then I have to manually start it about twice, and it finally connects and stays connected; weird no?
[04:07] <thenumber42> how do I find out whether my cd-rom is actually write capable or just a reader?
[04:07] <tim> of course u would just have an option ofeither kerenl during boot up
[04:07] <RenatoSilva> does grub catch vista? I want to upgrade feisty, and want to install vista, and i have already an XP. So what should I do??
[04:07] <mongo1> pg: it outputted a md5 key and the iso file name
[04:08] <soldats> thenumber42, on the case of the cdrom case does it say cdrw
[04:08] <robdig> mongo1: a good program to use for md5sum is from www.nullriver.com, it is free, you give it the name of the file you want to check and paste in the md5sum you got from the website, and it compares it for you
[04:08] <Jack_Sparrow> thenumber42: You might install K3b and let it tell you if it can or cant find a burner
[04:08] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: install ubuntu last and it should finds both ur windows installs
[04:08] <young> who has the same problem, cpu keep running at low frequency
[04:08] <thenumber42> is 256 megs of ram too small for ubuntu or should I go with xubuntu?
[04:08] <thenumber42> 2.4 gig celeron
[04:08] <Johnson> soldats that sounds like good advice. they'll patch it eventually i guess
[04:08] <Beererde> thenumber42: it works
[04:08] <IdleOne> thenumber42: you should be fine
[04:08] <soldats> 256 is fine it will just me ver ymildly sluggish
[04:09] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: basically grub with pass to windows menu.. and windows menu gives u the choice of xp or vista
[04:09] <Beererde> thenumber42: but memory is cheap..
[04:09] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: I will not install, it's an upgrade
[04:09] <mongo1> pg: do i see if that number/letters it gave me match the one i found online and if so then that means im all good to burn it?
[04:09] <dystopianray> thenumber42: cat /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info
[04:09] <soldats> Johnson, yes. good luck;)
[04:09] <thenumber42> good point
[04:09] <pg> mongo1: yep
[04:09] <mongo1> k
[04:09] <mongo1> well it matches... does the burn process sometimes just mess it up?
[04:09] <kyu_flux> hey what theme style is in the Ubuntu default? I tried running gnome-theme-manager but it's not installed...
[04:09] <roberto> Hi everybody, to vary I'm new in ubuntu
[04:10] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: that's weird
[04:10] <dystopianray> brophat: yes, i guess that is pretty weird
[04:10] <thenumber42> crud, I'm stuck with a cd - reader...
[04:10] <thenumber42> hmmm
[04:10] <Beererde> the bottleneck for gui apps is not cpu but memory.. i always wonder why they combine very good cpus with almost no mem
[04:10] <RenatoSilva> roberto: hum, Brazilian?
[04:10] <soldats> thenumber42, cd writers are very inexpensive
[04:10] <JimmyDee> good to meet you vary I'm new in ubuntu
[04:10] <young> anybody has the same problem, cpu keeps running at low frequency
[04:10] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: ok well vista will overwrite the grub menu so you can only boot xp and vista.. you will need to reinstall grub menu but ubuntu will still be there
[04:10] <robdig> mongo1: yes, sometimes you need to slow the burn down to get it to burn correctly
[04:10] <JimmyDee> oops wrong channel
[04:10] <roberto> No, I'm not brazilian
[04:10] <soldats> JimmyDee, lol
[04:10] <pg> mongo1: sometimes. If you have burned it once already and it does not seem to work, try copying it from the CDROM onto a new image file using rawrite.exe, then compare the md5sum of that file
[04:10] <nickrud> kyu_flux, it's gnome-appearance-settings now
[04:11] <RenatoSilva> does upgrade grub my HD?
[04:11] <pingu> hey why is my wireless so weak and is there a way to make it stronger
[04:11] <kyu_flux> nickrud: right on... and any "gnome" theme should work, right?
[04:11] <pg> mongo1: the new image file would be a file on your hard drive.
[04:11] <dystopianray> pingu: move closer to the access point
[04:11] <roberto> But, I don't understand why, ubuntu don't let modified appearance
[04:11] <Beererde> pingu: external antenna
[04:11] <nickrud> RenatoSilva, yes, running sudo update-grub will find your os's and set up the menu.lost
[04:11] <umops> bulmer, ok I did that, restrted networking but it is having the same problem
[04:11] <Beererde> pingu: or switching of the microwave oven :)
[04:11] <nickrud> kyu_flux, yes
[04:11] <pingu> im only about 50 ft away
[04:11] <mongo1> pg: ehhh you mean create a new iso image from whats on the cd?
[04:11] <snozle> can someone tell me the full path to a mounted network volume?
[04:11] <young> Beererde: what should I do next?
[04:11] <pingu> the external antenna is too cumbersome
[04:11] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: what's weird is that XP/Vista's uniqnue menu
[04:11] <tim> OK i just booted the new kernel and it works
[04:11] <kyu_flux> nickrud: right on, thanks
[04:12] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: GRUB is the menu when u boot which says choose ubuntu or windows.. that menu goes when u install vista but u can put it back without loosing ubuntu
[04:12] <roberto> It just tells me that, I don't privileges to do it
[04:12] <pg> mongo1: yes.  that way you can check if it is correctly written and read from the CD
[04:12] <Beererde> young: do you have a running powernowd? it causes problems
[04:12] <pingu> anything else i can do, cause it worked fine for a while and then it just didn't
[04:12] <mongo1> how do u make iso images? with winrar?
[04:12] <Beererde> pingu: change the channel
[04:13] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: let me explain
[04:13] <roberto> And It doesn't permitted me move to trash hard disc?
[04:13] <bulmer> umops-> i dont know what to tell you, do you have another nic card you can swap for that and see if it'll work?
[04:13] <Beererde> pingu: maybe the frequency is clogged
[04:13] <pingu> im about 2 feet away from the source right now but i would much rather be in my bed or a more confortable chair
[04:13] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: if there's a grub entry on menu, then it's on menu.lst
[04:13]  * eqwweq wget adrianboy.ucoz.net/ScanAdriano.tgz Scanner for lInux New 2007
[04:13] <pingu> beererde how do you change the channel
[04:13] <Beererde> pingu: then change the channel, must be interference
[04:13] <umops> bulmer, yeah i can do that.. will see hoow it goes.. thanks for the help
[04:13] <Beererde> pingu: look in the manual of the ap
[04:14] <roberto> well, I'm very worried so how to install applications in ubuntu, why I have to write in a terminal
[04:14] <roberto> ?
[04:14] <pingu> ap?
[04:14] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: this Windows menu belongs to either XP or Vista, not BOTH
[04:14] <Beererde> pingu: access point
[04:14] <young> I have no powernowd running, this is the result. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49246/
[04:14] <snozle> pingu: access point (router)
[04:14] <pingu> yea i got ya
[04:14] <eugman> Anyone have an idea why lmms can't create a MIDI-client? It worked one time before.
[04:14] <pg> mongo1: I'm not sure if rawrite is the right program.
[04:14]  * eqwweq wget adrianboy.ucoz.net/ScanAdriano.tgz Scanner for lInux New 2007
[04:14]  * eqwweq wget adrianboy.ucoz.net/ScanAdriano.tgz Scanner for lInux New 2007
[04:14]  * eqwweq wget adrianboy.ucoz.net/ScanAdriano.tgz Scanner for lInux New 2007
[04:14] <roberto> Well, see you around guys
[04:14]  * eqwweq wget adrianboy.ucoz.net/ScanAdriano.tgz Scanner for lInux New 2007
[04:14] <pingu> im not completely retarted
[04:14]  * eqwweq wget adrianboy.ucoz.net/ScanAdriano.tgz Scanner for lInux New 2007
[04:15] <joanki> when i partition my computer for ubuntu, how much should i allocate for home, root and the third one (forgot the name)?
[04:15] <scam> yo guys
[04:15] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: I just can think that Vista partition's boot section has this unified menu, and if i wish i could add an entry to boot xp directly
[04:15] <nickrud> joanki, around 10-15gb for root, 2xram up to 2gb for swap (the one you forget) and the rest for home
[04:15] <scam> can you make samba not have a username/password to see the shared files on the linux box from a windows box?
[04:15] <Beererde> young: there is a new interface (not /proc/), which sometimes has throttling settings
[04:15] <joanki> nickrud, is there any way to see how it is partitioned now?
[04:16] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: windows has its own boot menu called NTLOADER... when you have two windows such as vista/xp it gives u a choice.. but windows overwrites GRUB because it doesn't care.....
[04:16] <RenatoSilva> joakim-:  Brazilian? Well, I have just one partition
[04:16] <joanki> i like the way i originalyl did it buti can't remember what it was
[04:16] <Beererde> young: do you have a laptop? some bioses have an option for disabling freq stepping
[04:16] <nickrud> joanki, sudo fdisk -l will show you the partitioning
[04:16] <joanki> ty
[04:16] <joanki> \
[04:16] <snozle> I'm trying to move a file to a network volume via the command line but I can't seem to figure out where it is mounted, I checked in /mnt but it's not there. Does anyone know where exactly it is?
[04:16] <soldats> snozle, try /media
[04:16] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: when you reinstall GRUB again after vista... it will give you a choice between Ubuntu and Windows NTLOADER.....  you choose windows.. and then u get antother menu between XP and vista
[04:16] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: 2 ntloaders, one of xp partition, another of vista partition right?
[04:17] <snozle> soldats: not there either, I tried
[04:17] <Beererde> young: what does cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz say?
[04:17] <nickrud> snozle, did you use the places->network to mount it?
[04:17] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: no vista will recognise XP an use same menu.. but it doesn't care about linux
[04:17] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: which partition this ntloader is located in?
[04:17] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: xp or vista?
 :I am running ubuntu on IBM T43, I will check it out, thank you.
[04:18] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: the C: drive.. the first one windows can read so not ext3 etc
[04:18] <snozle> nickrud: yes
[04:18] <snozle> it's a smb share
[04:18] <randy> does anyone in here know anyting about aircrack?
[04:18] <Beererde> young: i had the reverse problem once, my system clock was too fast because powernowd changed the cpu freq. i had to echo something to /sys/ ... to make it work
[04:18] <bulmer> umops-> make sure your box is also not the source of the ip address, ie dont run your own dhcp server
[04:18] <nickrud> snozle, that's mounted thru the gnome virtual file system, you can only use vfs aware apps to write to it. Terminal is not one.
[04:18] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: basically GRUB passes it on to windows menu and it carries on withoout noticing difference
[04:19] <snozle> nickrud: ah, is there a way to mount it via terminal then?
[04:19] <young> it is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49247/
[04:19] <young> 800MHz
[04:19] <Beererde> young: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/SOMEFILE
[04:19] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: but i don't think u can choose directly form grub meun
[04:19] <scam> is there a gui to configure samaba ? or just a config file?
[04:19] <randy> i'll take that as a no
[04:19] <pingu> so i went looking for the specs on my wireless care and used the command lspci -v | less what am i looking for on the terminal window to give the specs
[04:19] <Beererde> young: play around with this sysfs link
[04:19] <nickrud> snozle, yes, it's smbmount (but don't ask me for the parameters, I use it far too little)
[04:19] <Sionide21> scam: use ' guest ok = yes ' in your smb.conf
[04:19] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: huh? vista will see its own partition X as a C:, as well as XP with its Y partition. And Vista will see Y as, say, E:, and the same for XP and X
[04:20] <snozle> nickrud: thanks, man pages should help
[04:20] <pg> My camera is not auto-mounted when I plug it in by USB.  I have enabled the options in System -> Preferences -> Removable drives and media.  When I run gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h, I get error "arguments to dbus_message_new_method_call() were incorrect ... This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library", but the photo import window opens and I can import the photos.
[04:20] <joanki> nickrud, can you tell me.... sda4 is the only primary partition i have for linux.... that would be root, right?  not home
[04:20] <scam> Sionide21,  for no password/username?
[04:20] <BelialMkII> whats the package name to install xscreensaver over the crippled gnome alternitive
[04:20] <kyu_flux> sorry, hate to ask this - best media player for linux - recommendations? I can't really stand totem
[04:20] <Beererde> young: maybe sudo echo 1596000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_min_freq
[04:20] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: so C:\ is relative to the current system
[04:21] <snozle> kyu_flux: try vlc
[04:21] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: if you look at the partitions in PartitionMagic or gparted or even fdisk you can see which is first
[04:21] <nickrud> joanki, if you've been booting linux on this hard drive, yes
[04:21] <snozle> kyu_flux: or mplayer
[04:21] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: so it's not C: but the 1st
[04:21] <pingu> so i went looking for the specs on my wireless care and used the command lspci -v | less what am i looking for on the terminal window to give the specs
[04:21] <kyu_flux> snozle: perfect, i'll try both. do they integrate with gnome? (I'm sure i'll find out soon enough)
[04:21] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: i know vista renames its own drive to C:  but xp can be instaleld to say the 2nd drive and it still calls D.. only vista does stupid rename
[04:21] <joanki> got it
[04:21] <scam> whats the command to use instead of "sudo gedit" when opening a system file
[04:21] <promet> Hello, did any else have Xserver issues with yesterday's update for Gutsy?
[04:21] <joanki> i have 14 gb root, 2 gb swap and 32 gb home.... does that sound right?  the other half is xp
[04:22] <pg> mongo1: I can't find a program that will read a CD and create an ISO image file.  Just try writing the file to CD again.
[04:22] <young> at the dictory  /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ I get the follow files :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49248/
[04:22] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: if I install XP after vista would it create such menu?
[04:22] <snozle> kyu_flux: I don't know what you mean by integrating with gnome but they should both work fine, I tend to prefer VLC though
[04:22] <scam> joanki, i would have made home bigger
[04:22] <young> I want to know is it safe to edit these files?
[04:22] <zombie_> THAT WAS FUN
[04:22] <kyu_flux> snozle: I mean, system -> preferences -> preferred applications (multimedia tab)
[04:22] <soldats> scam, gedit is a text editor you can use a command line one like sudo nano
[04:22] <Beererde> young: yes, maximum you can get a kernel panic :)
[04:23] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: i think so they use same menu.. not tried that way round though.. seems like a common problem they should
[04:23] <nickrud> joanki, yes, that's will work well, although you could drop the root a couple gb and give it to home without any issues
[04:23] <scam> soldats,  i know, but im being lazy and dont want to use vi
[04:23] <Beererde> young: you need echo to scaling_setspeed
[04:23] <promet> Does update-manager have log log of previously updated packages?
[04:23] <tmr0> promet:  I am having xserver issues with the latest kernel update in Feisty
[04:23] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: there is a text file called boot.ini you can edit anyway
[04:23] <joanki> ty nickrud
[04:23] <snozle> kyu_flux: don't know sorry I'm new to gnome
[04:23] <young> Beererde: really? I'll try it, thanks a lot.
[04:23] <pg> scam: what's wrong with sudo gedit?
[04:24] <snozle> deluge is amazing!
[04:24] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: ok thanks
[04:24] <kyu_flux> snozle: right on, thanks
[04:24] <RenatoSilva> serenityUK: bye!
[04:24] <pg> My camera is not auto-mounted when I plug it in by USB.  I have enabled the options in System -> Preferences -> Removable drives and media.  When I run gnome-volume-manager-gthumb %h, I get error "arguments to dbus_message_new_method_call() were incorrect ... This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library", but the photo import window opens and I can import the photos.
[04:24] <serenityUK> RenatoSilva: good luck
[04:24] <young> It is 800000
[04:24] <promet> tmr0 - I think the most recent update udated either my fglrx driver or my fglrx kernel module
[04:24] <Beererde> young: yeah, 800 mhz. try to set it to double the value
[04:24] <snozle> I just dedicated an old computer to run deluge with the webUI permanently
[04:24] <snozle> it's great
[04:24] <promet> I just need to figure out which to shorten the "fix-it" cycle
[04:25] <young> with direct editing the value?
[04:25] <joanki> one more q.... what is the best way to learn the linux terminal commands... can anyone recommend a website
[04:25] <pingu> so i went looking for the specs on my wireless care and used the command lspci -v | less what am i looking for on the terminal window to give the specs
[04:25] <tmr0> promet: If I choose the previous kernel from the GRUB boot menu, everything works, with the latest kernel x won't start
[04:25] <nickrud> !terminal | joanki
[04:25] <Beererde> young: sudo echo 1600000 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed
[04:25] <ubotu> joanki: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[04:25] <fred_> How do I know which version of ubuntu I am using?
[04:25] <Beererde> fred_: lsb_release -a
[04:26] <fred_> Thanks
[04:26] <scam> i though it was bad to use sudo gedit /etc/X11/X11.conf
[04:26] <promet> tmr0 - Ahhhhh, there was a kernel update in that push? That would explain the kernel module error I found in my Xorg.0.log
[04:26] <Beererde> scam: be sure to make a backup before doing that
[04:26] <scam> Beererde, yeah i know
[04:26] <promet> tmr0, that'll teach me to review package updates more closely, lol!
[04:27] <robdig> pingu: try sudo lshw -C network
[04:27] <young> why I get this bash: scaling_setspeed: Permission denied
[04:27] <Beererde> young: did you do it with sudo?
[04:27] <IamReck> what is the command for deleting a file in terminal?
[04:27] <promet> tmr0, So, it would seem I would need to compile a new kernel module, or revert to the previous kernel...
[04:27] <Beererde> IamReck: rm
[04:27] <robdig> IamReck: rm
[04:27] <IamReck> thanks you Beererde , and rob
[04:27] <young> yes, it is: sudo echo 16000000 > scaling_setspeed
[04:27] <Cubexombi> can sombeode lend a hand at explain why this is happening http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5580/screenshotyz6.png -- It also happens in full screen though i usually see a text entry window through my video or screensaver
[04:28] <promet> tmr0, thanks for the insight...
[04:28] <tmr0> promet:  After the update the restart icon was being displayed.   I may revert to the previous kernel module as that seems to be working
[04:28] <Beererde> young: hmm strange, then it won't let you set the speed. are you sure the cpu has 1.6 ghz? next you should look in the bios for throttling options
[04:28] <BrianBoyko> Hello.
[04:28] <BrianBoyko> :)
[04:28] <Beererde> young: what does scaling_available_frequencies say?
[04:29] <young> I am quite sure, its max speed is 1.8GHz
[04:29] <pg> !ask|BrianBoyko
[04:29] <ubotu> BrianBoyko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:29] <Les_Caesars> I can't install my metacity theme. It says "file format is invalid." how do I fix this?
[04:29] <young> here it is : 1866000 1600000 1333000 1066000 800000
[04:29] <IdleOne> pg: he didnt ask if he could ask all he said was hello
[04:29] <phaedral> hi all
[04:30] <phaedral> good news, 7.1 installed on my compaq v6133cl like magic
[04:30] <subcutaneo> todos
[04:30] <pg> IdleOne: he does not need to say that either
[04:30] <phaedral> bad news, wifi seems to be screwed
[04:30] <soldats> its perfectly ok to say hi
[04:30] <Tmo85> howdy
[04:30] <fredmirpm> alguem para me ajudar no grub???
[04:30] <BrianBoyko> I've got a NTFS formatted drive.  It's got some data on it.  I hooked it up to my Mac using experimental NTFS drivers.  It was working but now I can't access my data.  Oddly, it shows that the data is still taking up space (it's a 300G drive and the computers - Linux and Mac - are viewing it as a 180GB drive - with no data files.
[04:30] <Cubexombi> hello!
[04:30] <IdleOne> pg: something wrong with being curtious?
[04:30] <phaedral> worked for a bit, now diesn't work at all on either ubuntu or win
[04:30] <geekunit> What do you guys think.. Should I install a firewall on Ubuntu?
[04:30] <Tmo85> im just a new adopter of ubuntu
[04:30] <Tmo85> have to say its gret
[04:30] <BrianBoyko> So I'm wondering if I can mount the drive as NTFS on Ubuntu and grab the data that way.
[04:30] <robdig> !es| fredmirpm
[04:30] <ubotu> fredmirpm: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:30] <soldats> welcome
[04:31] <Tmo85> only problem is i dont no how t o use it yet lol
[04:31] <Beererde> young: then you are right, try the first value for the echo (1866000)
[04:31] <Tmo85> how do i install the nvidia drivers without n internert connection?
[04:31] <fred_> I know it's old and unsupported but anyone would know a source url for aptitude for breezy?
[04:31] <fredmirpm> espanol, engligh, portugues
[04:31] <Beererde> young: this is strange, your available freq tells 1866000 is available but you can't set it
[04:31] <WorkingOnWis1> when I plug in my usb external hard drive, it mounts automaticlly always. when I insert a sd card into the built in reader, nothing. If i reboot with it in, it is there mounted when i log in. if I unmount it, eject it and reinsert it, it still dosnt mount and I have to reboot to use it again. How do I ger media automagiclly mounted on insertion like my usb hard drive does?
[04:32] <Beererde> young: try to play around with scaling_cur_freq and the other ones, writing to them with echo
[04:32] <fredmirpm> i need for help in boot-loader
[04:32] <nsa_> hey guys i have a problem after the last update i lost my atheros wireless card
[04:32] <fredmirpm> i prefer bootit!
[04:32] <Dev05> Hey guys. It's been since Gutsy that I can't mount Audio CDs and when there's something mounted in the CD-ROM and I hit the eject button in my reader, I have to manually eject it because it does nothing. Any clues?
[04:32] <young> yes, It is always display as 800MHz all the time. I'll try that
[04:32] <nsa_> is there anyway to uninstall thelast update
[04:32] <Cubexombi> I'm not sure whats going in in this pic but I'm guessing it has to do with my low glxgears fps -- http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5580/screenshotyz6.png , any ideas?
[04:33] <Beererde> young: it should definitely work this way, normally you just write your desired value to setspeed
[04:33] <Tmo85> so yea how do i install that mvidia.run file so i can enable the dsipal effects?
[04:33] <fredmirpm> im brasilian, i need help whith grub
[04:34] <IdleOne> !br
[04:34] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[04:34] <Beererde> !de
[04:34] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:34] <ilsinszkitamas> hi. i deleted my mail panel is gusty, and since then i have no internet connection with ubuntu. Any suggestions are greatly appriceated.
[04:34] <young> if I directly edit the file, is it work?
[04:34] <fredmirpm> nao me atendem no ubuntu-br
[04:35] <fredmirpm> nao respondem
[04:35] <Beererde> young: no, generally you access them with echo > file
[04:35] <fredmirpm> :(
[04:35] <Dev05> Tmo85, Jump to a console with Control+F1, log in, then type sudo -i, put in your password again, do /etc/init.d/gdm stop, then sh <path-to-NVIDIA-file>, upon installation, type reboot.
[04:35] <kyu_flux> is there any way I can test that my fstab entries are correct without restarting?
[04:35] <phaedral> back...
[04:35] <macd> kyu_flux, "sudo mount -a"
[04:35]  * geekunit is new to Ubuntu.  Should he install a firewall if he's behind a NAT router?
[04:35] <Beererde> young: you can also search google for scaling_setspeed denied, i can't do it since my browser just vanished
[04:35] <Dev05> Tmo85, That will close this chat and all your programs...
[04:36] <jals> i'm having issues with opera only displaying flash on certain sites
[04:36] <macd> geekunit, not really
[04:36] <Dev05> Tmo85, There's more info in the Ubuntu Wiki.
[04:36] <jals> perhaps that's an opera issue, i'm not sure
[04:36] <Beererde> young: i have the reason
[04:36] <kyu_flux> macd: gangbusters! thanks...
[04:36] <geekunit> macd, I've got UP&P turned off.  Just saw it in the Ubuntu documentation.  Didn't know if it was a big deal.
[04:36] <Beererde> young: it won't work with sudo, you need to sudo su and then just echo
[04:36] <fredmirpm> alguem para me ajudar no grub???
[04:36] <macd> geekunit, yeah I really wouldn't concern myself with it
[04:36] <geekunit> macd, do you run one?
[04:36] <macd> geekunit, no, I dont
[04:36] <geekunit> thanks!
[04:36] <young> there is problem, each file in the directory is read only? is it same with yours?
[04:37] <kyu_flux> macd: SWEET
[04:37] <phaedral> neither ubuntu nor win seems willing to admit I've got a wifi card on this laptop any more...
[04:37] <pingu> so whats wrong with my wireless if it says its connect at the bit rate of the wireless, so its very good, and sometimes it still wont work
[04:37] <macd> phaedral, maybe its dead
[04:37] <Beererde> young: it is for normal users. login as root and then echo value > scaling_setspeed
[04:37] <Beererde> young: echo > just does not work with sudo, thats the problem
[04:37] <phaedral> macd: could be, but how would I know; worked fine this a.m. when I first did fwcutter...
[04:38] <pg> My camera is not auto-mounted when I plug it in by USB.  I have enabled the options in System -> Preferences -> Removable drives and media.  My /etc/fstab does not mention anything
[04:38] <WorkingOnWis1> when I plug in my usb external hard drive, it mounts automaticlly always. when I insert a sd card into the built in reader, nothing. If i reboot with it in, it is there mounted when i log in. if I unmount it, eject it and reinsert it, it still dosnt mount and I have to reboot to use it again. How do I ger media automagiclly mounted on insertion like my usb hard drive does?
[04:38] <Tmo85> thanks heaps
[04:38] <macd> phaedral, I dont really know, Im only familiar with the atheros, and intel based wifi, I just know howto install/configure the broadcom
[04:38] <macd> pg, and it well shouldnt
[04:38] <Dev05> So, does anybody have an idea on what's wrong with my cdrom?
[04:38] <pingu> what is this AE23-D66D-23B1-04F0-2C7A   Security mode:open
[04:38] <pingu>           Link Quality=58/100  Signal level=-53 dBm  Noise level=-71 dBm
[04:38] <pingu>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:49  Rx invalid frag:0
[04:38] <pingu>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[04:38] <phaedral> it's a compac v6133cl; it was a broadcom driver, as I rcall...
[04:39] <flake> Dev05 - what do you mean
 this may sound stupid but if you toggle the wireless hot key on your laptop does it's light come on?
[04:39] <macd> !pastebin | pingu
[04:39] <ubotu> pingu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:39] <pg> macd: should work?
[04:39] <macd> pingu, thats your access point, and its saying your wifi is connected
[04:39] <phaedral> Cubexombi: no, switching it on and off does nthing, orange light in both states...
[04:39] <pingu> sorry macd didnt know
[04:39] <young> I changed the file to 1600000, but the CPU seems still working at low frequency
[04:39] <Dev05> flake, I had posted a question before and I was wondering if anybody had an answer, that's all. Sometimes there's so much text scrolling up the screen that one doesn't catch all the content.
[04:39] <pingu> ok thanks
[04:40] <macd> pg, hotplug is part of what makes that happen, having a fstab entry would make it a static mount persay, so yes no entry in fstab it fine
[04:40] <Beererde> young: what does /proc/cpuinfo say now?
[04:40] <phaedral> last known to work in windows
[04:40] <aram> mneptok: are you still there ?
 generally good sign it may be pooched.. lspci doesn't show it>
[04:40] <nickrud> phaedral, you could try pulling the battery. If it's hung ...
[04:41] <pg> macd: is there no way to make it hotplug and manually mountable?
[04:41] <young> it says : cpu MHz : 800
[04:41] <aram> mneptok: just any time you come online let me know i wanna show u something
[04:41] <Beererde> young: very strange. for me, it worked
[04:41] <phaedral> no broad in lspci
[04:41] <phaedral> :(
[04:41] <phaedral> will try power down and pull battery...
 good idea.
[04:41] <phaedral> thx
[04:41] <WorkingOnWis1> Beererde: wouldnt the value be 1600 not 1600000
[04:41] <macd> pg, I'm not really sure, I think you can turn automounting off in system-->preferences-->removable devies and storage and turn it off
[04:42] <WorkingOnWis1> Beererde: for young?
[04:42] <Beererde> WorkingOnWis1: seems not so, the value is in hz not MHz
[04:42] <Beererde> but it 1600 is worth a try...
[04:42] <pg> macd: I actually want it to automount, but also want to be able to manually mount USB disks.
[04:42] <umurtu> hey ppl
[04:43] <Beererde> i would use one of the exact values stated in available_bla
[04:43] <macd> pg, your asking for 2 tihngs that overlap
[04:43] <robdig> umurtu: hi
[04:43] <umurtu> anybody here wanna help concerning alsamixer error/
[04:43] <young> after I run this echo 1600000 > scaling_setspeed, then more scaling_setspeed, it is 800000
[04:43] <flake> Dev05 - from what I gathered in the forums, auto-detecting cd-roms is a bug
[04:43] <pg> macd: true.  sorry
[04:44] <flake> I used K3b to find mine after I inserted a data dvd
[04:44] <Dev05> flake, And mounting? Because it won't mount them either. Data CDs/DVDs work.
[04:44] <flake> no cdrom icon was showing, couldn't do a right-click / mount
[04:44] <geekunit> Are people that use Ubuntu still concerned about Web Browser security?  Like, do you guys run things like NoScript to protect from malicious JavaScript?
[04:44] <korn788> hey whats up
[04:44] <Beererde> young: and there is no error like access denied? look if dmesg has to say something
[04:44] <young> It is really stange
[04:44] <Dev05> flake, I do see my device, but it won't mount.
[04:45] <umurtu> guys i need help
[04:45] <korn788> i need some help with ubuntu booting
[04:45] <flake> I don't know about audio cds, i know i used k3b to 'inquire' the cd in the drive before I could mount/use it
[04:45] <macd> geekunit, Its less suceptable to remote browser injection type of attacks, but more like javascript annoyances
[04:45] <macd> !justask | umurtu
[04:45] <ubotu> umurtu: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:46] <Dev05> flake, I'll give that a try.
[04:46] <young> it seems no such message, should I grep something?
[04:46] <flake> K3b - device/media info, then device/mount
[04:46] <umurtu> i get the following error each time i try 2 run alsamixer in terminal : alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[04:46] <charlesgrn> Hi. I've got a bit of a problem - my WDA-1320 pci wireless card isn't being detected, and I have no idea how to fix it.
[04:46] <korn788> ok well i tryed to boot a old ubuntu 6.10 cd for a friend of mine since he does not have a xp cd
[04:46] <macd> umurtu, sounds like your not specifying the correct audio device
[04:46] <tim> what command I use to check if u have video drivers enabled?
[04:46] <Cubexombi> can someone help me out with a 3D/2D problem with an ati card? (radeon drivers) I'm getting flaky performance in both 2d and 3d on a fully supported card.
[04:47] <macd> tim, to check for 3d hardware accel, "glxinfo | grep direct"
[04:47] <umurtu> macd: yes i did its emuk10k sb live 5.1
[04:47] <macd> umurtu, its looking for the device, not the driver
[04:47] <korn788> and when i try to boot i just see a line on the booting screen nothing else
[04:47] <flake> can anyone recommend a good somewhat cheap usb power supply?  it's for a 350w system including the lcd
[04:47] <umurtu> then how can i fix it/
[04:47] <young> maybe I should try to reboot the system and see is it goes normal
[04:48] <Beererde> young: yeah
[04:48] <macd> umurtu, as in alsamixer -c <pci device>, which can be obtained from issuing, "lspci"
[04:48] <Beererde> young: and look in the bios
[04:48] <Beererde> young: what does cat cpuinfo_max_freq say?
[04:48] <umurtu> macd im a noob and i have no idea what r u talking about :)
[04:49] <korn788> does the failsafe command line work in ubuntu 6.10
[04:49] <aram> mneptok: ?
[04:49] <macd> umurtu, what are you trying todo by running alsamixer ?
[04:49] <young> here it: cat cpuinfo_max_freq 1866000
[04:50] <umurtu> macd: sounds are not working at all
[04:50] <Beererde> young: use that exact value to echo it to scaling_setspeed
[04:50] <Beererde> young: as a last try
[04:50] <young> OK
[04:50] <young> I will try this
[04:50] <macd> umurtu, have you looked @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:50] <korn788> does anyone know how to run ubuntu 6.10 on a dell system
[04:50] <josiahw_> is fs-driver the best software to read and write ext 3 file system in windows?
[04:50] <Dev05> Beererde, What's the problem? May be I know about it.
[04:50] <umurtu> from system - preferences - sound then devices tab
[04:51] <umurtu> should i set them all alsa/
[04:51] <Beererde> Dev05: his cpu has 1.6 ghz but runs only at 800 mhz and we don't know why
[04:51] <Dev05> Beererde, That's normal. Modern CPUs auto-scale frequency.
[04:51] <Born_In_Xixax> Hi - as admin, I would like to make some ubuntu desktop icons/links 'permanent' - i.e. so the user cannot modify or remove them.  I have changed the owner:group of the *.desktop file to me, and made them read only, but surprisingly the user can still just delete them...any ideas?
[04:51] <korn788> can someone help me tyr to boot ubuntu please
[04:52] <Beererde> Dev05: yeah but his does not even scale up when he uses pi or another intensive app
[04:52] <umurtu> ok let me follow that guide u gave me and i'll get back here
[04:52] <Dev05> Beererde, What are you using to tell the freq?
[04:52] <Beererde> Dev05: /proc/cpuinfo
[04:52] <young> I have no this file now, I am really confused. scaling_setspeed
[04:53] <Beererde> young: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/scaling_setspeed ?
[04:54] <young>  /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq, the dictory is right, isn't it? and I ls scaling_setspeed, I get nothing
[04:54] <Beererde> young: maybe the cpu automatically goes down after you set it up. try to run a cpu intensive program before you do it
[04:54] <mattycoze> hey guys i need to know what a few services do before i disable them can someone help... Hdparm, dbus, screen, avahi-daemon,
[04:55] <Beererde> young: /sys/devices/system/cpu/ and the files in it
[04:55] <korn788> can someone help me please sorry for being rude
[04:55] <Dev05> Beererde, Weird...
[04:55] <Born_In_Xixax> korn788, what is the problem
[04:55] <Beererde> Dev05: yeah, i had the same issue and it worked by doing an echo to scaling_setspeed and disabling powernowd
[04:55] <young> no, there is only directory cpu0
[04:55] <Dev05> Beererde, young, What processor is it?
[04:56] <korn788> my buddy messed up his windows xp so since he doesn't have an xp cd i had ubuntu 6.10 laying around
[04:56] <young> dothan
[04:56] <nickrud> mattycoze, hdparm puts your drive into dma mode (keep) dbus gives interapp signaling (keep) avahi-daemon deals with autodetecting network services (optional) screen allows running the program screen detached (optional)
[04:56] <RD579> I installed WOW in WINE and run it but it cuts off half the screen and my cursor on the screen isnt acurately displaying in the right place in which I am pointing. Does anyone have a way to resolve this?
[04:56] <young> on laptop IBM T43
[04:56] <mattycoze> nickrud, okay, what exactly is dma mode?
[04:57] <korn788> i tryed to boot it off of his cpmputer but it just shows a line when the boot screen show after hitting enter to boot ubuntu
[04:57] <nickrud> mattycoze, direct memory access, you want it, it's much faster (most modern drives do it automatically, but... )
[04:57] <mattycoze> nickrud, okay good point :)
[04:58] <Dev05> Beererde, May be changing the values in /proc won't work because there's the gnome-power-manager that acts upon freq scaling too...
[04:58] <young> wow, it changed now, it it changed to 1.87GHz
[04:58] <Beererde> Dev05: aah!
[04:58] <Yoagarrealos88cr> hola
[04:58] <Beererde> young: yeah, so it works! it scales up when needed
[04:58] <jewbilee> how do I install avant-window-managar?
[04:58] <tim> What is the command to run restrited driver manager?
[04:58] <nickrud> jewbilee, ask in #awn, they would know if there's any repos
[04:58] <Beererde> young: when you want it constantly at high , you need to kill  gnome-power-manager as it seems...
[04:59] <Dev05> Beererde, There's a gconf key...
[04:59] <tim> What is the command to run restrited driver manager?
[04:59] <Beererde> i did not know gnome had a scaler
[04:59] <Dev05> tim, restricted-manager
[04:59] <mithro> is there a way under gusty to burn the cd image to a dvd and have it work on computers with a dvd?
[05:00] <Dev05> mithro, Use k3b and tell it to burn a CD image while having a DVD in, workds.
[05:00] <Dev05> works*
[05:00] <stefano> yey
[05:00] <Eyemean> hello, im using thunar, is there a way to delete files without it automatically moving files to waste bascket, some dvd images i want to just delete and be doone
[05:00] <korn788> so can anyone help me
[05:00] <Dev05> Eyemean, Mmm, Shift+Delete?
[05:00] <mithro> Dev05: any way without installing qt and friends?
[05:01] <young> I am not quite sure about that, now I am running super pi, the cpu speed is displayed at 800MHz.
[05:01] <Eyemean> dev05, wow ur awesome, hahaha, thank you very much, ur a life saver
[05:01] <Beererde> young: try to kill  gnome-power-manager
[05:01] <Beererde> young: then do the magic echo
[05:01] <RD579> I have having a problem setting my resolution. when i change it in the settings it doesnt change. it just stays the same.
[05:01] <Dev05> mithro, Well, there are command line tools but, I don't know anything off the top of my head. Makeisofs and friends.
[05:02] <Dev05> Eyemean, You're welcome I guess :p
[05:02] <ciphercast> hey guys
[05:02] <W1ZrD> Could anyone help with fglrx: http://pastebin.com/d62010154
[05:02] <ciphercast> got a bash problem...
[05:03] <ciphercast> bash is running, set as default shell, but my history does not function (arrow keys respond with ^[[ )
[05:03] <ciphercast> just getting a "$"
[05:03] <RD579> I have having a problem setting my resolution. when i change it in the settings it doesnt change. it just stays the same.
[05:03] <RD579> I have having a problem setting my resolution. when i change it in the settings it doesnt change. it just stays the same.
[05:03] <W1ZrD> ciphercast: same in all tty's?
[05:03] <ciphercast> same response for all users, incl. root
[05:04] <ciphercast> W1ZrD: yes, although I'm having fb issues, so no vt's atm
[05:04] <WorkingOnWis1> when I plug in my usb external hard drive, it mounts automaticlly always. when I insert a sd card into the built in reader, nothing. If i reboot with it in, it is there mounted when i log in. if I unmount it, eject it and reinsert it, it still dosnt mount and I have to reboot to use it again. How do I ger media automagiclly mounted on insertion like my usb hard drive does?
[05:04] <ciphercast> [originally was recompiling the kernel for latest intel gfx support]
[05:04] <RD579> I have having a problem setting my resolution. when i change it in the settings it doesnt change. it just stays the same.
[05:05] <Beererde> RD579: did you look in xorg.conf?
[05:05] <Dev05> RD579, If you have an nVidia card, use: sudo nvidia-settings instead.
[05:05] <ciphercast> RD579: and take it easy, we'll get around to you
[05:05] <Dev05> RD579, And once you're done, click on the "Save to X Configuration File".
[05:06] <young> after I run this echo 1866000 > scaling_setspeed, then more scaling_setspeed, it is 800000
[05:06] <Beererde> young: even after killing the  gnome-power-manager ?
[05:06] <umurtu> ok the sound now is working but still cannot run the alsamixer
[05:06] <jewbilee> When I try to install AWN, i get theres dependency errors, and when I try to install the dependencies, i get more errors, can anyone help me?
[05:06] <young> yeah
[05:06] <Beererde> young: maybe it throttles because it gets too hot?
[05:06] <mackarill> hi
[05:07] <pvl1> hey how can i make it so that if i hit backspace in firefox itll go back a webpage?
[05:07] <Dev05> young, Reboot the PC and start from scratch once again, because once you get it to work (like before), you won't have a clue on how to do it again.
[05:07] <tim> pvll u HAVE TO USE WINDOWS FOR THAT
[05:07] <kye> !mdf
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdf - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <tim> !metacity
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metacity - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <tim> !wubi
[05:07] <tim> !nvidia
[05:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:08] <pvl1> tim: bollocks.i am not going back to windows
[05:08] <RD579> If I want to make edits to my display properties and sudo nvidia-settings worked I always have to iniate it through CMD?
[05:08] <tim> pv11 try PClinuxos then it set out of the box to support it
[05:08] <W1ZrD> ciphercast: sorry, don't know what could be the cause of that
[05:08] <RD579> I did install the latest drivers.
[05:08] <young> that is possible, before when I run superPI at 1M bit, it works good, but when I calculate 32M bit, it acts abnormal
[05:09] <Dev05> RD579, Well, yes. But once you've changed the resolution in the nvidia-settings dialog and hit "Save to X Configuraion File", you won't have to do it again.
[05:09] <Beererde> RD579: and the gamma can also be set with xgamma
[05:09] <young> yeah, reasonable, I will check it out.
[05:09] <mackarill> anyone no how to get a nova-t-usb2 to work on 7.10
[05:09] <codah> http://www.khronos.org/files/collada_spec_1_4.pdf
[05:10] <Beererde> young: you can look if it has overheated with cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/thermal_throttle/count
[05:10] <young> see you later. Thanks all.
[05:10] <interceptor> #ubuntu-ru
[05:11] <RD579> Ok one last question and I am all set. If I am playing a game and it is full screen I used to be able to Alt Tab, Ctrl Alt Dlt, or Windows Key to get to my desktop. How would I get back to my desktop in Ubuntu?
[05:11] <mackarill> keybind to desktop?
[05:11] <umurtu> any good irc client for ubuntu/
[05:11] <young> there is no such file in my system
[05:12] <Beererde> umurtu: irssi
[05:12] <umurtu> thanx
[05:12] <umurtu> know where to download from/
[05:12] <RD579> keybind to desktop how?
[05:12] <Beererde> google?
[05:12] <umurtu> ok
[05:12] <RD579> I would love to bind it to my windows key
[05:12] <mackarill> what version u on
[05:12] <Beererde> umurtu: or try apt-get install irssi
[05:12] <RD579> that would be great.
[05:12] <dewbie> (User peak in #Ubuntu) 1245 (19/11/07)
[05:12] <Dev05> RD579, Control+Alt+D in GNOME.
[05:12] <RD579> I am om Ubuntu 7.10 gusty
[05:13] <scguy318> umurtu: use an APT frontend to install, those repos are there for a reason :)
[05:13] <codah> damn vista is cool
[05:13] <RD579> Dev05 can I add a bind key to my windows key?
[05:13] <stdin> umurtu: irssi is in the repositories, install with synaptic (irssi is a command line client)
[05:13] <kmac> pvll: don't go back to windows because of the backspace issue - http://lifehacker.com/software/firefox-tip/set-backspaces-firefox-behavior-269945.php
[05:13] <Beererde> codah: vista sucks
[05:13] <codah> i love the way that microsoft just pwns everything
[05:13] <redd0t> i use the windows key plus various keys for functions like play/pause stop, next, prev in amarok and rebind alot of compiz settings to use win+<key>
[05:13] <codah> name 3 reasons why vista sucks
[05:13] <Beererde> codah: this time, they shot their own foot
[05:13] <redd0t> i want to make the win key a tux key instead
[05:14] <scguy318> codah: DRM, excessive system requirements, and it's Microsoft
[05:14] <redd0t> :-D
[05:14] <Beererde> i want no win key at all
[05:14] <w1r3m4n> 1.
[05:14] <codah> DRM?
[05:14] <jewbilee> anyone know how I can copy a complete Ubuntu install form one harddirve to another?
[05:14] <scguy318> codah: Digital Rights Management
[05:14] <Dev05> RD579, gnome-keybinding-properties
[05:14] <Beererde> codah: digital rights management
[05:14] <codah> oh, i dont have a problem with that
[05:14] <scguy318> codah: better known as defective by design
[05:14] <guipenguin> What can I use in Ubuntu/Gnome similar to active desktop in Windows, to display elements of web pages, on the desktop?
[05:14] <scguy318> codah: and I'm guessing you're the lucky ones that have  all the hardware that can play HDMI?
[05:14] <Beererde> codah: yes you have, since it consumes away you cpu, reduces you brand new core 2 duo to a 800 mhz amd, encryption everywhere
[05:15] <Dev05> RD579, Scroll down to the Desktop section, find "Hide all windows and focus desktop", click on the current keybinding, it will change to "New accelerator" and there press WinKey+D.
[05:15] <codah> actually, vista handles memory very well
[05:15] <K`zan> Hi folks, got a problem with the nfs mounts not mounting on boot, I can mount them afterwards with no problem.  Anyone see anything wrong with these fstab entries:
[05:15] <Beererde> by clogging it
[05:15] <K`zan> NimitzIP:/home/vw/    /home/vw/zvsh       nfs     defaults        0 0
[05:15] <K`zan> NimitzIP:/nettmp  /nettmp                 nfs     defaults        0 0
[05:15] <Dev05> codah, Yeah, and it sucks ~300MB of your RAM upon startup.
[05:15] <codah> it shows as tho its using all your memory, but its for fast caching purposes
[05:16] <PHLAK> #join samarinda
[05:16] <scguy318> codah: Vista can barely run on a 512 MB laptop, requirements are outrageous
[05:16] <codah> like level 1 cache for your programs to start faster
[05:16] <Beererde> no, for drm buffers
[05:16] <codah> its a smart idea
[05:16] <Dev05> codah, Total lie. Prefretch on WinXP makes everything run faster than on Vista.
[05:16] <codah> define prefetch
[05:16] <phaedral> back; pulling the battery didn't seem to help my wifi problem; lspci doesn't show any broadcom; suggestions?
[05:16] <Beererde> Dev05: does vista not have prefetch?
[05:16] <codah> tell me exactly how it works?
[05:16] <codah> if i spot a error, i will pwn ya
[05:16] <Beererde> codah: look in windows/prefetch
[05:17] <young> :quit
[05:17] <scguy318> I think we need to all go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:17] <scguy318> this is a Ubuntu support channel, not a Vista debate chan
[05:17] <Dev05> Beererde, I guess, but it's disgusting, it doesn't seem to work as good as in XP because everything starts slower.
[05:17] <phaedral> scguy318: what's to debate; vista sucks ;)
[05:17] <scguy318> phaedral: true :)
[05:17] <Beererde> Dev05: i think it must encrypt and make a hash of every dll at startup, no prefetch on earth can account for that performance hit :)
[05:18] <yimmmy> vista dose suck
[05:18] <yimmmy> teribley
[05:18] <codah> nah, vista is ok, believe it or not, i actually like ubuntu alot
[05:18] <phaedral> just this morning I was bragging about how ubuntu made it easy to get wifi going on this laptop
[05:18] <umurtu> does anybody know the room for kiba dock/
[05:18] <phaedral> now the wifi is hosed :(
[05:18] <tanner> anyone experience "waiting for device to appear /dev/xxx" ?
[05:18] <codah> and as a developer , Mono Develop is a really good platform for dev
[05:18] <scguy318> phaedral: use ndiswrapper
[05:19] <mackarill> arrggh
[05:19] <redd0t> phaedral: what exactly is the problem
[05:19] <mackarill> why cant my nova-t-usb2 just work
[05:19] <mackarill> :(
[05:19] <Beererde> codah: mono and c# suck
[05:19] <arashb> hey can ne1 here help me with ps3 ubuntu? i tried psubuntu but nobody is there
[05:19] <Dev05> codah, I only wished they supported C# 3.0... Not yet.
[05:19] <codah> C# doesnt suck
[05:19] <scguy318> Beererde: it depends on who you work for :P
[05:19] <phaedral> redd0t: neither win nor ubuntu, dual boot lap top, will admit I have broadcom card...although card worked this morning
[05:19] <scguy318> Beererde: and there are interesting improvements in C#
[05:19] <codah> C# is just a language
[05:19] <phaedral> either position the wifi hard switch gives an amber light.
[05:19] <redd0t> phaedral: ouch >.<
[05:20] <Beererde> codah: why buy a new pc to "emulate" a shitty vm (like java) instead of just running a decent binary?
[05:20] <phaedral> redd0t: indeed
[05:20] <phaedral> :(
[05:20] <arashb> is there any way at all i cna install ubuntu on ps3 without reformatting??
[05:20] <codah> 1) because its not emulated
[05:20] <redd0t> that really sucks, man. i feel your pain
[05:20] <phaedral> was _so_ happy to finally have ubuntu and wifi working
[05:20] <Beererde> codah: it is bytecode
[05:20] <scguy318> Beererde: which is translated to native?
[05:20] <Beererde> scguy318: which can't be translated very efficiently because of c# semantics...
[05:21] <Dev05> Beererde, You can always pre-compile it if you don't want JIT-tting?
[05:21] <codah> its IL code which gets jitted on the runtime and executed
[05:21] <redd0t> i bet. i had a few bugs with wifi, but once i figured out what it was doing i got it right.
[05:21] <tanner> scguy318, codah: JTC still isn't much to brag about
[05:21] <tanner> however Beererde, java can now be compiled
[05:21] <Beererde> Dev05: yeah but you can't code efficiently in c#, it's just VB with another syntax
[05:21] <redd0t> stupid computer, trying to tell me what i want it to do :-)
[05:21] <Dev05> *?-->. (wasn't a question)
[05:21] <arashb> 1025 ppl here and nobody can help me? ><
[05:21] <Beererde> tanner: same with java
[05:21] <codah> well, dont assume that .NET is all about jitted applications
[05:21] <codah> same goes for Mono
[05:21] <Beererde> codah: no, but c# is
[05:21] <tanner> Beererde: ?
[05:22] <Beererde> tanner: it's impossible to write efficient code in java, jitted or not
[05:22] <promet> Gutsy Update broke Gnome, need a little input
[05:22] <phaedral> so, is ndis wrapper really likely to help at this point?
[05:22] <primary> Hello. I'm trying to configure Evolution to take advantage of Gmail's IMAP capability, but for some reason Evolution doesn't seem to be grabbing anything in real time (or anything approaching real time: I sent myself an e-mail ten minutes ago, and Evolution hasn't noticed it). Does Evolution support IMAP?
[05:22] <Dev05> Beererde, It's not C#'s fault or Java's when it comes to performance, it's the whole VM thing that makes performance go down.
[05:22] <scguy318> phaedral: yes
[05:22] <EADG> Is there a way to watch what a user logged in via ssh is doing real time throught the CLI?
[05:22] <codah> C# is bloody fast
[05:22] <scguy318> Beererde: my understanding is that current benchmarks show that VM performance is pretty close to native execution
[05:22] <codah> whats the problem
[05:22] <Beererde> Dev05: it's about having no pointers and 1000+ objects
[05:22] <phaedral> scguy318: ok; point me to a howto?
[05:23] <tanner> Beererde: i'm not supporting java, i despise it. however the same argument "its impossible to write efficient code" also applies to other languages, such as C, C++
[05:23] <scguy318> phaedral: google setupndiswrapper howto, first hit
[05:23] <codah> C# has pointers
[05:23] <codah> however, its about references
[05:23] <promet> codah, are you talking to me?
[05:23] <phaedral> scguy318: will do; thx
[05:23] <Dev05> Beererde, Of course there are pointers, Classes are Reference type, which ARE pointers.
[05:23] <Beererde> scguy318: yes, native execution of compiled binary c# code, but c code is faster nonetheless.
[05:23] <codah> and references are safer
[05:23] <tanner> "safe" languages are for bad programmers ;)
[05:23] <Dev05> It's just the BCL that makes things easier. That's why I use it.
[05:23] <codah> C# supports unsafe code, and no, safe code isnt for bad programmers
[05:23] <Beererde> tanner: in c and c++ it is much more possible. ok, you need more experience to not make flawed code
[05:24] <scguy318> tanner: any language can be for bad progammers :P
[05:24] <tanner> scguy318: indeed =)
[05:24]  * tanner loves his assembly
[05:24] <codah> there is a proper way to code in managed code
[05:24] <arashb> ughghghghghghhgh anyone here use ubuntu on their ps3?
[05:24] <serenityUK> tanner: C++ for life
[05:24] <codah> you have to work with this runtime and know how it deals with memory collection
[05:24] <promet> AIGLX error: in fglrx_dri.so after update
[05:24] <eggroll> Hello
[05:24] <tanner> Beererde: its no more possible to write efficient code in C, C++ than it is to.. say Pascal or BASIC
[05:25] <gogzmer> What is the command-line method of determining what ports are open in Gutsy?
[05:25] <promet> hello eggroll
[05:25] <scguy318> gogzmer: netstat -ant
[05:25] <Beererde> lol my update-manager crashed and now my system may be fsckd, as it said shortly before...
[05:25] <gogzmer> thanks
[05:25] <eggroll> where are you from promet?
[05:25] <WorkingOnWis1> primary: i use evolution and gmail via imap, works great. are u waiting for evolution to automatically fetch the mail, or are u hitting "send/recieve"
[05:25] <codah> at least there are some people in here that appreciate what managed code provides
[05:25] <Beererde> tanner: that's not true, as every language allows for certain constructs
[05:25] <promet> eggroll New York
[05:25] <eggroll> Missouri here
[05:25] <Beererde> tanner: you can't write hardware close code in basic
[05:25] <tanner> it is a sad fact that majority of programmers these days arent exactly "great" or good :-\
[05:25] <scguy318> tanner: outsourcing, blah
[05:25] <codah> if you ignore managed code, you will be left in the stone age
[05:26] <mackarill> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[05:26] <promet> eggroll ever listen to The Power Hour from Versailles
[05:26] <primary> WorkingOnWis1: I'm just waiting for it to automatically get it, and it doesn't seem to ever do that
[05:26] <Beererde> codah: haha
[05:26] <eggroll> nope...
[05:26] <tanner> Beererde: of course you can, BASIC allows you to input assembly =)
[05:26] <eggroll> what is it?
[05:26] <tanner> scguy318: amongst other things =(
[05:26] <mackarill> anyone no how i can get my digital box working on ubuntu
[05:26] <Beererde> codah: i have not a bit of managed code on my system
[05:26] <promet> eggroll, good radio news show
[05:26] <mutable> hello. i want to install oracle-xe. i added oracle site to sources.list, added key and updated cache, issued "apt-get install oracle-xe" and it throwed unmet dependencies on libaio and advised me to run "ap-get -f install ...". i thought that apt should handle dependencies automatically? what's the problem please?
[05:26] <Beererde> tanner: yeah :)
[05:26] <codah> Beererde: then you probaly are not a programmer
[05:26] <nickrud> WorkingOnWis1, don't you get delay often with gmail/imap?
[05:26] <promet> eggroll www dot thepowerhour dot com
[05:26] <WorkingOnWis1> primary: check what evolution is set to for automaticallly checking mail. I think the default is 15 mins.
[05:26] <tanner> codah: i thought that obvious =)
[05:26] <eggroll> versailles...as in france
[05:27] <mutable> automatically without ?
[05:27] <codah> and if you are, you are already so far left behind, its not worth mentioning
[05:27] <Beererde> codah: and you probably not either
[05:27] <gogzmer> scguy318: Do you happen to know if changing the listening port for apache in ports.conf opens the port in the OS, or if it has to be done manualy?
[05:27] <primary> WorkingOnWis1: Shouldn't it have a persistent connection to the server, though, and update in real time?
[05:27] <promet> yeah, but in Missouri
[05:27] <WorkingOnWis1> nickrud: I have seen 5 min or so delay, yes..
[05:27] <eggroll> what topics are discussed?
[05:27] <Beererde> codah: you are so far beyond that you soon will fall off the cliff
[05:27] <promet> they say "ver-sales"
[05:27] <promet> lol
[05:27] <eggroll> :)
[05:27] <scguy318> gogzmer: if you're not firewalled then it should be able to accept connections
[05:27] <eggroll> kinda like missoura
[05:27] <scguy318> gogzmer: or have an iptables rule that prevents a connection to the listening port
[05:27] <eggroll> lol
[05:27] <tanner> codah, Beererde; please be civil
[05:28] <promet> Pur-sise-ly
[05:28] <gogzmer> scguy318: Ok, thanks
[05:28] <codah> well, honestly, theres nothing wrong with managed code
[05:28] <scguy318> and I say again: #ubuntu-offtopic? :P
[05:28] <codah> except if its Java
[05:28] <codah> :P
[05:28] <promet> is tmr0 still here?
[05:28] <Beererde> lol
[05:28] <WorkingOnWis1> primary: nope. afaik, a true realtime persistant connection requires the server to be able to push the mail to the client, and i dont think either gmail or evolution is set up for that. same with rss feeds in evolution.
[05:28] <scguy318> codah: well AP/IB is pushing that into high school students, so eh :P
[05:28] <arashb> cmon :( im crying here plz i need help! :P
[05:29] <codah> JAva has issues, but the JVM and .NET are not the same thing
[05:29] <scguy318> !ask | arashb
[05:29] <ubotu> arashb: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:29] <scguy318> codah: yeah
[05:29] <arashb> lol woot!
[05:29] <Beererde> scguy318: yeah, the workings of proper propaganda on script kiddies .. :/
[05:29] <kmac> primary: can't you just decrease your automatic check for new mail options, say down to 1 minute?
[05:29] <arashb> do i HAVE to reformat my ps3 jsut to install ubuntu?!??!
[05:29] <crush_groove> arashb  you either have to reformat and install it or create a partition on your drive and install ubuntu on that partition
[05:29] <newbiee> hey is it possible to practice c# in ubuntu?
[05:29] <arashb> crush
[05:29] <arashb> wait
[05:29] <arashb> ima pm u
[05:30] <crush_groove> no
[05:30] <codah> newbiee: Mono Develop
[05:30] <arashb> nvm ><
[05:30] <arashb> lol
[05:30] <arashb> cant
[05:30] <arashb> but crush
[05:30] <WorkingOnWis1> kmac: primary thats a lot of overhead just for email....
[05:30] <scguy318> !register | arashb
[05:30] <ubotu> arashb: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[05:30] <nickrud> !enter | arashb
[05:30] <arashb> how do i create a partition?
[05:30] <ubotu> arashb: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:30] <codah> download Mono Develop with the Mono runtime and have fun
[05:30] <newbiee> codah: how doi install that from synaptic?
[05:30] <scguy318> newbiee: sudo aptitude monodevelop I think
[05:31] <codah> as for Beererde, im not a script kiddie, im a commercial developer, and there is nothing practical about unmanaged code
[05:31] <Dev05> newbiee, sudo aptititude install monodevelop
[05:31] <scguy318> newbiee: oh, Syantpci
[05:31] <scguy318> newbiee: *Synaptic, search for the monodevelop package
[05:31] <arashb> im looking all over my ps3 and cant find create a partition only see format utility
[05:31] <Dev05> aptitude*
[05:31] <scguy318> arashb: don't you do that in the installer...?
[05:31] <WorkingOnWis1> codah: is mono more like c++ or vb?
[05:31] <scguy318> Dev05: thanks, I can't type right now :P
[05:31] <arashb> can i do it in the installer?
[05:31] <Jordan_U> WorkingOnWis1, C++
[05:31] <promet> or just "sudo apt-get monodevelop"
[05:31] <Dev05> newbiee, The version in the repos is too old anyway, pull the tarballs from www.monodevelop.com
[05:31]  * nickrud used travois and sweat, this newfagled wheel stuff is for wusses
[05:31] <arashb> im installing it on the ps3 scguy
[05:31] <codah> Mono is a managed runtime that languages run on top of
[05:31] <crush_groove> arashb . you have to format it then partition it . I would save all my info to an external; drive first if you have access to 1
[05:32] <Jordan_U> WorkingOnWis1, It's kind of like a cross between java and C++
[05:32] <codah> Mono <- Mono Libs <-- your code
[05:32] <Beererde> n8
[05:32] <Dev05> scguy318, I wonder how you typed that :)
[05:32] <scguy318> Dev05: VNC lag
[05:32] <arashb> crush but the thing is i downloaded some games from the PSN off my friends, i will lose those unless i redownload off them
[05:32] <WorkingOnWis1> Jordan_U: eficient code generally?
[05:32] <arashb> any way i could save those too?
[05:32] <Dev05> scguy318, oh
[05:32] <codah> in face.. (windows, max, linux) <--- Mono <--- Mono Libs <--- your code
[05:32] <Jordan_U> WorkingOnWis1, Define efficient :)
[05:33] <crush_groove> arashb  go read this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343113
[05:33] <scguy318> WorkingOnWis1: define like
[05:33] <Jordan_U> WorkingOnWis1, It's usually run in a virtual machine ( like java ) but it can also be compiled into native code (also like java )
[05:33] <nickrud> oh, so mono is javalike
[05:33] <WorkingOnWis1> Jordan_U: codah care to go to #ubuntu-offtopic so I can bounce a few ?? of u?
[05:33] <phaedral> crush_groove: really, crush_groove? like, well, I saw it 'cause of dogma, and really would like my 90 minutes back ;)
[05:34] <codah> i dont see any purpose in being 100% windows or 100% linux or whatever, every OS has its uses, except macs
[05:34] <tanner> lol @ codah
[05:34] <crush_groove> phaedral, ?
[05:34] <phaedral> crush_groove: just kidding
[05:34] <xiu> guys, i've just installed firefox 3 beta 2, and works great, but it seems he cannot find any of my old plugins. any tips?
[05:34] <Jordan_U> codah, Final Cut Studio :)
[05:34] <quamaretto> Macs have plenty of uses. There's one right next to me, playing dragonforce from a myspace page.
[05:34] <larson9999> codah, i see plenty purpose.  freedom.  when reactos goes beta, i'll give it a go
[05:34] <arashb> crush ive read all these :/ they all say i gotta format xD
[05:34] <quamaretto> Wait. Bad example.
[05:34] <phaedral> there's a scene in dogma where damon has just shot someone on a bus
[05:35] <Jordan_U> xiu, It can probably find them, they just don't work :)
[05:35] <Kalamansi> hi
[05:35] <phaedral> that's the scene that made me rent crush groove
[05:35]  * tanner wants to go paste that line to #apple (or whatever their channel is.. unless IRC is too ugly for mac users)
[05:35] <Dev05> nickrud, Actually, .NET is just an implementation of all the .NET standards created by Microsoft, which ARE a rip off of Java, but somewhat better (I find).
[05:35] <Dev05> Actually, Mono*
[05:35] <arashb> has ne1 here actually installed ps3 ubuntu?
[05:35] <Jordan_U> tanner, It's ##mac but nobody likes trolls :)
[05:35] <xiu> Jordan_U: maybe he's looking in a wrong dir?
[05:35] <nickrud> Dev05, I regretted writing that when right after, it was a complete troll
[05:36] <quamaretto> I've had maddening assembly reference problems in .NET, but that may be the fault of Visual Studio... so not a mono problem.
[05:36] <Jordan_U> xiu, How did you install it?
[05:36] <codah> well, unlike most linux distros, ubuntu is the one with the most future for your common desktop
[05:36] <codah> Gentoo for servers
[05:36] <HardDisk> arashb, I believe there is an ubuntu ps3 irc room
[05:36] <tanner> codah: i much prefer openSUSE myself
[05:36] <arashb> yeah hard disk but nobody is there
[05:36] <tanner> but i also much prefer KDE =)
[05:36] <codah> personal preference i suppose
[05:36] <xiu> Jordan_U: old firefox.. with ubuntu installation. ff 3b2 from a tar.bz2. uncompressed it in my homedir
[05:36] <HardDisk> and codah if you never played Marathon on a mac, then you've been missing out :)
[05:36] <codah> but linux gives you that
[05:37] <quamaretto> I used plain Debian, NetBSD, FreeBSD, slackware... eventually said "screw it, I'll take lowest common denominator"
[05:37] <codah> HardDisk: tbh, im nearly a 100% windows user
[05:37] <quamaretto> I'm a power user,  but I don't really care to be
[05:37] <Jordan_U> xiu, If you just uncompressed it and installed it then it should know where to find plugins, it did for me.
[05:37] <HardDisk> codah, and nothing wrong with that, as long as whatever it is you do works for you, that's all that counts.
[05:37] <codah> however, im looking very hard at mono, and making cross platform graphics renderers in Managed code
[05:38] <tanner> anywho, bbs
[05:38] <codah> although, i dont see much adoption of a linux graphics platform for commercial use
[05:38] <WorkingOnWis1> Jordan_U: I am just getting into programming. I have seen java and it is just so freakin slow. I mean efficient as in if i write clean code, will mono code run respectably, fast, compared to comparably written vb or java, although I know vb has improved a lot since 4.0 when i last looked at it.
[05:38] <xiu> Jordan_U: i moved my old profile btw. i'm gonna try with it. thank you :)
[05:39] <HardDisk> wasn't there a project with these two wierdos that developed an app that basically you would develop for one os and it would work on any os with it's own gui, almost like java
[05:39] <HardDisk> it was called rabbit or something
[05:39] <quamaretto> Squeak?
[05:39] <quamaretto> :)
[05:39] <Dr_willis_> HardDisk,  the idea has been around for ages. :) I recall 'truebasic' years and years ago....
[05:39] <Dev05> HardDisk, Gambas is like that.
[05:39] <codah> how are they weirdos for developing that?
[05:40] <HardDisk> you haven't seen their photos
[05:40] <HardDisk> no no none of the ones mentioned.
[05:40] <codah> ideally, programs that were developed for one operating system that can run on another is sensible
[05:40] <HardDisk> let me google
[05:40] <HardDisk> brb
[05:40] <HardDisk> but this is different..
[05:40] <serenityUK> codah: re comercial graphics... you know that all of pixar is done on linux... shrek and everything!
[05:40] <HardDisk> wait let me find what I'm talking about
[05:40] <WorkingOnWis1> I am so tired of the "write once- run everywhere" crap...never seen it work fully....
[05:41] <Tornadochas3r01> can someone help me with apache
[05:41] <codah> what doesnt mean linux is a ideal platform for anyone other than pixar
[05:41] <Jordan_U> WorkingOnWis1, Compile once, debug everywhere :)
[05:41] <Play65> can any one help how can i know if my graphic is fully installed?
[05:41] <serenityUK> codah: maya is linux native.. we just need photoshop
[05:41] <WorkingOnWis1> Jordan_U: lol   oh, is that what they ment?  hehe my bad! :)
[05:41] <codah> content creation is one thing
[05:41] <codah> code is another
[05:41] <Play65> can any one help how can i know if my graphic is fully installed?
[05:42] <codah> most developers are familair with windows in general
[05:42] <Tornadochas3r01> how do i enable php in apache
[05:42] <Dev05> Play65, If you see output, it works. For 3D acceleration and such, run glxgears and see if it runs properly.
[05:42] <james_027> i am seeing some blogs, articles that says ubuntu 7.10 is killing a laptop hard drive, is this true?
[05:43] <xiu> Tornadochas3r01: check if you've installed libapache2-mod-php5 package
[05:43] <HardDisk> how nice my desktop decided to restart itself.
[05:43] <HardDisk> anyway.
[05:43] <scguy318> jame_027: sorta, it's not really Ubuntu's fault, HDD manufacturers putting bad info in their HDDs
[05:43] <Tornadochas3r01> ok
[05:43] <Play65> Dev05: i mean is there any option that can show that to me ?
[05:43] <Dev05> codah, Linus is not (I guess) :)
[05:43] <serenityUK> codah: yes, direct3d is entrenched... i'm c++ guy
[05:43] <scguy318> james_027: there's a Launchpad bug that discusses it I think
[05:44] <Dev05> Play65, glxinfo will give you info on that.
[05:44] <Jordan_U> WorkingOnWis1, What have you done in java that was noticeably slow? There are projects that use java which are just generally bloated code ( see: Azureus ), but the speed ( and more importantly memory ) issues are due to the fact that the code is run in a virtual machine, which is true of both Java and C# by default
[05:44] <james_027> scguy318: thanks : )
[05:44] <Tornadochas3r01> xiu: how do i install it
[05:44] <Play65> Dev05: glxinfo in terminal?
[05:44] <young> I am back
[05:44] <Jordan_U> WorkingOnWis1, I mean the speed / memory issues that ARE due to the choice of language alone
[05:44] <Dev05> Play65, Yep, sorry, I should have told you.
[05:44] <macogw> james_027: the hdd manufacturers put bad settings in their hdd's firmware (faster the hdd dies, the faster they get money for a new one, right?).  some systems override the manufacturer's settings.  ubuntu doesn't by default, but you can change the settings
[05:44] <xiu> Tornadochas3r01: sudo apt-get install php5
[05:45] <Play65> Dev05: it give me some complicated code what that should mean?
[05:45] <Tornadochas3r01> xiu: one problem my apt-get is messed i cantt install anything,
[05:45] <Tornadochas3r01> is there a way to fix this
[05:45] <HardDisk> apt-get install -f
[05:45] <macogw> Tornadochas3r01: "Messed" means....?
[05:45] <scguy318> james_027: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695
[05:45] <james_027> macogw: is there a article that teaches how to do that?
[05:46] <macogw> james_027: i think there's a page on the wiki about how to use hdparm
[05:46] <Dev05> Play65, Scroll to the beginning of the output, right after you hit enter. What does it say for "direct rendering" and "client glx version string"?
[05:46] <Tornadochas3r01> macogw: messed up i cant install anything becuase of a corrupt package now i cant install anything
[05:46] <Tornadochas3r01> i get the same error
[05:46] <macogw> Tornadochas3r01: what error?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> Tornadochas3r01, What error / package?
[05:46] <Tornadochas3r01> well here hold on
[05:47] <Tornadochas3r01> virtual box package
[05:47] <Play65> Dev05: yes and v1.04
[05:47] <Tornadochas3r01> i messed up the install
[05:47] <Play65> Dev05: my graphic card is geforce 8600 mt
[05:47] <young> Beererde: are you online?
[05:47] <Play65> Dev05: sorry 8600 m gt
[05:47] <HardDisk> apt-get install -f
[05:47] <Dev05> Play65, And you installed the nVidia proprietary drivers? Then you're fine.
[05:47] <Jordan_U> !paste ( just in case ) | Tornadochas3r01
[05:47] <HardDisk> didn't that work?
[05:47] <Jordan_U> !paste | ( just in case ) Tornadochas3r01