[00:02] <DosTuMai> Voyage?
[00:07] <daftykins> user in #ubuntu being really trying :P
[00:07] <OerHeks> Fromage
[00:07] <daftykins> had to give up in the end, guy jumped to someone elses advice instead of sticking to it
[00:08] <OerHeks> yeah, terrible skype
[00:08] <DosTuMai> Who the hell uses skype on a Linux box?
[00:09] <daftykins> i've done it
[00:09] <daftykins> what's up with that? :)
[00:10] <daftykins> though that laptops' camera is pretty pants
[00:11] <DosTuMai> xD
[00:12] <daftykins> it comes up as a slideshow on the other end for some reason o0
[00:12] <daftykins> that's just on an old machine though, mostly use my normal laptop with skype :>
[00:12] <DosTuMai> Odd.
[00:33] <DosTuMai> Oh, guess he got bored and left?
[00:34] <daftykins> yay \o/
[00:34] <daftykins> we seem to have the weekend folks early this week
[00:35] <OerHeks> all drunks :-D
[00:35] <daftykins> :D
[00:35] <daftykins> that reminds me, i got given a bottle of wine today
[00:36] <DosTuMai> It's that time of year they let all the loonies out of the asylum, and brb...
[00:45] <daftykins> nicomachus: it's very trying tonight :(
[00:45] <daftykins> i don't think i've had enough beer
[00:46] <nicomachus> lol. I'm setting up this Nexus 6 for my girlfriend, but will try to help where I can
[00:47] <daftykins> :O where's mine!?
[00:47] <DosTuMai> And my Ubuntu phone?! D=
[00:48] <OerHeks> do my 3310 too!
[00:48] <nicomachus> daftykins: only $249 on amazon right now.... get one.
[00:48] <daftykins> hehe
[00:48] <DosTuMai> You still have a Nokia 3310?
[00:48] <daftykins> ah i wouldn't use a tablet
[00:48] <OerHeks> I'm missing a wifi icon.
[00:48] <daftykins> i was visiting the US when the HP Touchpad went on firesale, got one but eh... it does nothing
[00:48] <nicomachus> this thing makes my HTC One look TINY.
[00:48] <daftykins> OerHeks: if you complete snake you get wifi ;)
[00:53] <DosTuMai> I hope you know, I'm stealing some of the previous as a bio quote...
[00:54] <nicomachus> so... many... updates...
[00:55] <daftykins> DosTuMai: huh?
 do my 3310 too!
 You still have a Nokia 3310?
 I'm missing a wifi icon.
 OerHeks: if you complete snake you get wifi ;)
[00:56] <daftykins> bio? that an IRC quote site? i don't even...
[00:56] <DosTuMai> ^Going on my bio in EvE Online.
[00:56] <OerHeks> Yes i have a working 3310 ..
[00:56] <daftykins> oic
[00:57] <daftykins> never did try that
[00:58] <nicomachus> it'll either take over your life, or you won't play enough to get good
[00:58] <DosTuMai> http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/488934701858391556/2DA4B3CF3132B1D3D7E0ED6C6DDFDE37B2578555/?interpolation=lanczos-none&output-format=jpeg&output-quality=95&fit=inside|1024:*
[00:58] <DosTuMai> Pretty much what Nichomachus said. xD
[00:59] <nicomachus> yep.
[00:59] <DosTuMai> You either become an internet spaceships no-lifer or you think it sucks.
[01:05] <DosTuMai> https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Mei%20Starkiller
[01:05] <DosTuMai> https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Dossie%20Kielle
[01:05] <DosTuMai> ^2 of me in EvE Online. =P
[01:07] <daftykins> is that first link text what a Windows user sees when reading dmesg?
[01:07] <DosTuMai> It's a poem. >_>
[01:07] <daftykins> i sees it, but i don't understand it (:
[01:10] <DosTuMai> Mending clouds playing thoughts,
[01:10] <DosTuMai> Crossing stars messaging griefs,
[01:10] <DosTuMai> Through the dark vast Milky Way
[01:10] <DosTuMai> we came across from far away.
[01:10] <DosTuMai> Our meeting as morning dew in autumn winds,
[01:10] <DosTuMai> But it surpassed all common reunions on earth.
[01:10] <DosTuMai> Tenderly our feelings streaming flow,
[01:10] <DosTuMai> And a good date in our dreams glow,
[01:10] <DosTuMai> How can I turn away from the magpie bridge
[01:10] <DosTuMai> to the returning road?
[01:10] <DosTuMai> If the love of two forever lasts,
[01:10] <DosTuMai> Then does it matter
[01:10] <DosTuMai> that we can't abide days and nights?
[01:11] <DosTuMai> Peom is called Qi Qiao Xian,,Fairy On The Magpie Bridge.
[01:13] <daftykins> there's nothing worse than fairys taking advantage and using the magpie bridges
[01:13] <daftykins> fairies o0 i can't brain anymore today
[01:14] <DosTuMai> It's about 2 lovers destined to marry other people.
[01:14] <DosTuMai> But they're so deeply in love that they're willing to die together than be with someone else.
[01:15] <DosTuMai> So, they go to the Magpie Bridge where they always met and make their plans.
[01:16] <daftykins> that's quite touching
[01:17] <DosTuMai> At the end, they both jump, and realise moments before they die, they could be together easily by moving to another district.
[01:17] <daftykins> whoops :(
[01:18] <DosTuMai> It's kinda like Romeo & Juliett.
[01:18]  * OerHeks loves Dire Straits
[01:21] <daftykins> heh i used to have a housemate that played it all the time
[01:21] <DosTuMai> Sabbath!
[01:21] <daftykins> ah love me some sabbath
[01:22] <DosTuMai> I grew up on a diet of real rock and prog. D=
[01:27] <daftykins> time for a snack and to prepare for the sleeps
[01:28] <daftykins> i sense i might get to take a phone apart tomorrow 8D
[01:28] <DosTuMai> =D
[01:28] <daftykins> that's more fun than my hol will be i think
[01:28] <DosTuMai> I'll be right over! Lemme cycle to Manchester...
[01:32] <daftykins> you tease :P
[01:32] <DosTuMai> To deconstruct a gadget? Hell yeah.
[01:33] <daftykins> i've got a Nexus 5 sat here still awaiting its' new screen turning up, too
[01:33] <daftykins> that's actually the one thing i've been wanting to show up for the past month and it's late ;_;
[01:33] <DosTuMai> >_<
[01:33] <nicomachus> just finished the marshmallow upgrade on this nexus 6... my gf got it before I did. :(
[01:34] <daftykins> nicomachus: i'm pretty sure it's now law that she owes you a packet of marshmallows
[01:34] <DosTuMai> 'Droid names aren't as awesome as Ubuntu names...
[01:34] <nicomachus> she owes me more than that, I bought her the phone...
[01:35] <daftykins> :D
[01:35] <nicomachus> DosTuMai: yea but Xenial Xerus....?
[01:35] <DosTuMai> No idea where they dragged that up from...
[01:36] <daftykins> DosTuMai: it's workable ;) https://goo.gl/maps/2tDQZw9rtNB2
[01:37] <DosTuMai> I'd be going via Wigan.
[01:38] <daftykins> oh and bring cake
[01:38] <DosTuMai> It'll be lactose free.
[01:39] <daftykins> i can deal with that
[01:41] <daftykins> ah maps make me feel odd, all these plans i've heard the names of but never been
[01:41] <daftykins> *places
[01:41] <daftykins> can someone apt upgrade my brain to hand interface? it's still on the blink
[01:43] <DosTuMai> If you can make a better brain-to-mouth filter for me.
[01:44] <nicomachus> apt-get update neural-interface-kernel-source?
[01:44] <nicomachus> upgrade...
[01:44] <daftykins> mmm sauce
[01:44] <daftykins> DosTuMai: this could be a collaborative project
[01:44] <DosTuMai> I liek my sauces.
[01:49] <nicomachus> hmmm... can't seem to find USB settings in this nexus 6
[01:50] <DosTuMai> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqc4HRIXCmo
[02:00] <daftykins> nicomachus: like MTP?
[02:01] <daftykins> alright i really have to go, the sleepening has begun
[02:01] <daftykins> later folks o/
[02:01] <DosTuMai> Night, Daftykins. o/
[02:06] <DosTuMai> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DV7Prge-7w
[03:15] <DosTuMai> I'm gonna sleep, night all. o/
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> !printers
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2015/12/more-people-use-ubuntu-than-anyone.html
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> source: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-One-Billion
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> i think what we all can agree, ubuntu getting alot of interest :p
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> someone invent an i-use-ubuntu-button package lol to send back to canonical
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> hey SeriouslyLaugh
[06:51] <SeriouslyLaugh> o/
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: nobody reply yet?
[06:56] <nicomachus> -ops said to try the canonical folks. another said to try -wiki but it's invite only.
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> hmmz
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: someone should take care of this
[06:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> what's the issue?
[06:58] <nicomachus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers
[06:58] <nicomachus> pages like this popping up ^
[06:59] <SeriouslyLaugh> woah
[06:59] <SeriouslyLaugh> are these not community driven wikia pages? can't we just revert it?
[06:59] <nicomachus> ha, get to work: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahelp.ubuntu.com+Call+%401-800-919-0992+for+all+type+help+by+QuickBooks+Pro+tech+support+phone+number+Call+%401-800-919-0992+Intuit+QuickBooks+Pro+Tech+Support+Phone+Number+Call+%401-800-919-0992+QuickBooks+Pro+Help+Desk+Phone+Number+and+QuickBooks+Pro+Phone+Number&oq=site%3Ahelp.ubuntu.com+Call+%401-800-919-0992+for+all+type+help+by+QuickBo
[07:00] <nicomachus> oks+Pro+tech+support+phone+number+Call+%401-800-919-0992+Intuit+QuickBooks+Pro+Tech+Support+Phone+Number+Call+%401-800-919-0992+QuickBooks+Pro+Help+Desk+Phone+Number+and+QuickBooks+Pro+Phone+Number&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.6578j1j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
[07:00] <nicomachus> wow, that was bad. whoops.
[07:00] <SeriouslyLaugh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers?action=info boop
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: did you try #canonical-sysadmin ?
[07:01] <nicomachus> yea no response there. they're probably all on holiday
[07:02] <SeriouslyLaugh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList?_ga=1.136765874.384626925.1450940489 boop
[07:02] <nicomachus> it's weird because the page doesn't show any edits.
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> propbaly botnet exploit
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> spamming webservers randomly
[07:04] <SeriouslyLaugh> what do you mean? i see the edits
[07:05] <nicomachus> "Printers (last edited 2013-10-18 20:57:23 by skyemoor)
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> think they can exploit this
[07:05] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah isn't that the person who spammed the latest edit? or am i reading that wrong
[07:06] <nicomachus> SeriouslyLaugh: that edit was made 2 years ago.
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> i dont think that edit counts
[07:06] <SeriouslyLaugh> oh
[07:06] <SeriouslyLaugh> weird
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> they found a way in anonymously
[07:07] <SeriouslyLaugh> a weird thing to spam
[07:07] <SeriouslyLaugh> might be someone doing a proof of concept
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> thats why i think botnet
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> botnets can randomly spam such things over 0day exploits
[07:09] <SeriouslyLaugh> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ogWKLD8N-RAJ:https://github.com/google/flatbuffers/issues/2999+&cd=13&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
[07:09] <SeriouslyLaugh> cached hithub bug report with the same block of text
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> git had recent ubuntu exploit aswell
[07:11] <SeriouslyLaugh> doing a google search for "QuickBooks support team phone number" (with quotes) shows some interesting results
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> DJones, ikonia , Jordan_U , Tm_T , rww , phunyguy awake?
[07:41] <EriC^^> morning guys
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> sleep well?
[07:42] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> : )
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: xmass with familly tonight?
[07:42] <EriC^^> yup
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> same here
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> familly side of my gf
[07:43] <EriC^^> cool
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> 2nd xmass day with my fammily
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: look what nicomachus found: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers
[07:46] <EriC^^> yikes
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> bbl breakfast :p
[07:56] <DJones> lotuspsychje: Whats up?
[07:57] <SeriouslyLaugh> DJones lotuspsychje and nicomachus spotted this and were trying to notify someone https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers
[07:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> i think they're both afk
[07:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> weird thing is the edit history of that page don't show the updates so they're thinking its a 0day thing or botnet related
[08:01] <DJones> I saw it'd been mentioned in -ops as well, the suggestion was that the best place might be #ubuntu-wiki but not sure if that is a real channel, I'd suggest #ubuntu-website
[08:04] <DJones> Just mentioned it in -website in case there's anybody there who do something
[08:04] <Ben64> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers?action=info&hitcounts=1 shows it was edited on the 23rd, but it doesn't show up in the revision history
[08:12] <DJones> Printers (last edited 2013-10-18 20:57:23 by skyemoor)
[08:12] <DJones> Shows up if you login
[08:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah i saw that too -- check the year ;)
[08:14] <DJones> Registered since 2013,but no info on the account
[08:14] <DJones> Ah yeah, strange
[08:14] <SeriouslyLaugh> doing a google search for "QuickBooks support team phone number" (with quotes) shows some interesting results
[08:16] <DJones> Ouch, looks nasty
[08:16] <DJones> Seems to be a well spread spam
[09:15] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[11:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all, Merry Christmas!
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> http://xkcd.com/1335/
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> ha
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> hello MonkeyDust
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: did all your xmass shopping yea?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> i'm not 'into' xmas shopping
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: no food either tonight?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> home alone tonight, tomorrow xmas @ my parents' home
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> cool
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> you?
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> tonight with parents in law
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> saturday own parents
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> great
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> and all days in between recover from ttoo much food n drinks lol
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> :-)
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: readed this1? http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2015/12/more-people-use-ubuntu-than-anyone.html
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> let 'Redmond' be the mainstream OS, i'm happy with Ubuntu
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> something has to be the mainstream
[11:55] <DJones> lotuspsychje: I mentioned what you were looking at earlier on the wiki in #ubuntu-website and its been filed as a ticket with infrastructure team
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> DJones: thank you mate, lets hope that this get fixxed because alot of users use the printer trigger
[11:56] <DJones> Yeah, hope so
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> few interesting topics on lxer.com
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: cool site, didnt know that1
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> does this explain how to *use* or how to *create* a nitrokey usb stick ... http://xmodulo.com/linux-security-with-nitrokey-usb-smart-card.html
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> yeah im just reading that :p
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> pretty high tech james bond stuff :p
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> but im more a fan of vanished usb deep under the ground, for sensitive data
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> how do you mean?
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: well lets say the FBI finds your nitrokey...they will try to decipher it until they get the data
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: with a hidden usb, nobody can find
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> hi DosTuMai
[12:19] <DosTuMai> \o Lotus. =]
[12:20] <DosTuMai> Kinda screwed for work on Saturday, earliest train is 9am, and I start at 8...
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: wb
[12:24] <EriC^^> thanks
[12:24] <DosTuMai> Welcome back, EriC^^. =]
[12:24] <EriC^^> DosTuMai: thank you :)
[12:24] <DosTuMai> I found a bus that leaves at 0853...
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: normally you go by bike?
[12:27] <DosTuMai> No, get the train.
[12:30] <DosTuMai> Righ, get the 0900 train which will arrive at work ~1018, or the 0853 bus which will get me to work ~1037...
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> pff train+bus is a nightmare before work
[12:31] <DosTuMai> Especially this time of year.
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> gets you stressed and even dont started to work yet
[12:31] <DosTuMai> I just stick my MP3 on and listen to music on the train.
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: what kind of music
[12:32] <DosTuMai> So... 5am start to cycle, or arrive 2hr late. Hmmm.
[12:33] <DosTuMai> lotuspsychje: Pick a genre. =P I'm nigh eclectic.
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> do you got techno :p
[12:33] <DosTuMai> Yes, been listening to loads of liquid DnB recently, too.
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> nice
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> im grabbing alot of adam beyer livesets
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> mixing.dj
[12:35] <DosTuMai> Kewlies. =D
[12:37] <DosTuMai> Check out eve-radio.com Fridays 2200 UTC for Madness, then Saturday from 1800 for Helix, NME and vector_Viridian. =P
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> ill do
[12:37] <DosTuMai> Erroch tonight at 0000 UTC is also a good dance DJ. =]
[12:38] <DosTuMai> http://eve-radio.com/radio/scheduled-shows?day=-1&incself=true
[12:38] <BluesKaj> a live set used to mean a "live band", not some guy recording his disk manoevers on prerecorded music
[12:39] <DosTuMai> VV, NME and Madness all live mix. =]
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> cool
[12:39] <BluesKaj> it's not live in other words
[12:39] <DosTuMai> Helix does sometimes when he can be bothered, but he usually plays random stuff. xD
[12:41] <DosTuMai> Yes & no, BluesKaj. Sure, it's not quite as good as seeing a band, but hey, live bands aren't that great over the radio. Prefer to see them.
[12:41] <BluesKaj> anyway i guess my generation's definition of live music is different
[12:45] <DosTuMai> How old - if you don't mind my asking?
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> he minds
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:47] <BluesKaj> 72
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> im 38 here
[12:47] <DosTuMai> 31. =]
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> 44
[12:48] <DosTuMai> Looks like I'm the baby of the group!
[12:48] <BluesKaj> <---an old fogey
[12:48]  * lotuspsychje runs for the milkbottle :p
[12:48] <DosTuMai> xD
[12:49] <DosTuMai> You're as old as you feel, BluesKaj. =]
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> age doesnt matter, as long as the spirit is free
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> right
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> age doenst matter, al long as your bones agree
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> as*
[12:49] <BluesKaj> my grandchildren are already in their teens
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> my younger brother has teens too
[12:50] <DosTuMai> My mother-in-law was in her 80s and still doing cart wheels around her garden.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> my old knees don't always like to move
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  then simply have them surgically removed
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: lets see this in the field :p
[12:51] <EriC^^> see what?
[12:51] <BluesKaj> too many wipeouts skiing and falls in other sports
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: see #ubuntu
[12:52] <EriC^^> let me start it
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> brb
[12:53] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, gonna try to hang on to my real knees for a while longer....plastic ones don't appeal to me atm
[12:54] <EriC^^> oh it's already on
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: you need to start it every time?
[12:54] <DosTuMai> They can be very high maintenance, BluesKaj.
[12:54] <EriC^^> no
[12:54] <EriC^^> i had it down for xmas
[12:54] <EriC^^> lol
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: ah kk
[12:55] <EriC^^> i've been wanting to add a shit ton of stuff
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: but nvm seems like the users hasnt got wifi
[12:55] <EriC^^> but it's xmas
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> yeah tyt EriC^^
[12:56] <DosTuMai> And be careful of the cold.  And thunder storms. Not like the UK gets real thunder.
[13:12] <DosTuMai> Yeesh, curlyears is having more technical issues than the whole channel combined. o_o
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> DosTuMai  yes, he keeps us going
[13:22] <DosTuMai> xD
[13:24]  * DosTuMai is listening to Babymetal - Gimme Chocolate! [.] (3:27/4:02)
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:25] <DosTuMai> Totemo kawaii~ x3
[13:25] <DosTuMai> Got my tiny music library on repeat. Need more music...
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> i use audacious
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> have a few 100 cd's, a few 100 vinyl records, a few 100 cassettes (old skool)
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> :p
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> ripped part of my cd collection
[13:27] <DosTuMai> Can I come around with my laptop and USB turntable?
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> !info mixxx
[13:28] <DosTuMai> Yah, I use mixxx, too. xD
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> sometimes i wonder how users can mess up ubuntu install so much...
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> i never had 1 trusty install failed, ever
[13:30] <DosTuMai> I have, but I was trying to break it.
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: and how did you break?
[13:30] <DosTuMai> To see how people do that...
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  it's because it 's 3TB hdd, he's having problems with partitioning, i guess
[13:31] <DosTuMai> sudo [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo *Click*
[13:31] <DosTuMai> And...
[13:31] <DosTuMai> echo `base64 -d <<< cm0gLXJmIH4K|sh`
[13:32] <DosTuMai> Tried several installs on my test tower. Was fun just randomly deleting things, and installing things from virus-filled websites through Wine.
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:33] <DosTuMai> I love the terminal roulette code.
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> zero the drive and such :p
[13:34] <DosTuMai> I had to try _really_ hard to break the installs. How people do it so easy is beyond me.
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> DosTuMai  it's easy: use an axe and bang your pc with it
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> maybe ubuntu would still boot up :p
[13:36] <DosTuMai> Can't afford to replace my test tower, saving to buy a shiny PC.
[13:41] <DosTuMai> Betting on Win10 partition.
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> i really hate dualboots
[13:42]  * DosTuMai hides her Suse partition.
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> lolz
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: its just an opinion no sweat
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> i like 1 single Os to be powered on the whole hd
[13:43] <DosTuMai> I know. =D
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> so, what'sz the xmas claasic on tv, tonight...
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: circle du soleil lol
[13:43] <DosTuMai> TV? What is that? =P
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> lolll
[13:44] <DosTuMai> Mine is used as a screen for a ZX Spectrum, N64, Nes, SNES...
[13:45] <DosTuMai> And now for some angry Russians. =o
[13:45]  * DosTuMai is listening to FRAG - Как есть [Сотни последних возможностей] (0:23/3:21)
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> da!
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> dobre
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> los vidania
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> vamos a l playa
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:47] <DosTuMai> Wo buoming eluosi lor D=
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> wot
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: tell us something hindi :p
[13:47] <DosTuMai> "I don't understand Russian." In Chinese. >_>
[13:48] <DosTuMai> You have a SO, lotuspsychje?
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> so?
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> what's SO?
[13:49] <DosTuMai> Significant other, partner/spouse.
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> yes
[13:50] <DosTuMai> Say: Ek pyar kah naghma hai [eck pee-arr ka nag-mah hi] - means "my heart forever yours."
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> nice
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> wo ai ni
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> DosTuMai  tiet veu een paafke
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:51] <DosTuMai> Add "yishen,,yishi" on the end, means forever. =]
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> she never will understand that1
[13:53] <DosTuMai> Unknown expression.
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: its a mix from belgium dutch/french
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> DosTuMai: something like: do you wanna smoke?
[13:54] <DosTuMai> I'm supposed to be quitting...
[13:54] <DosTuMai> Have been quitting for the last 3 years?
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> i once had a bad lung illness after too much sigs
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> and stopped after that
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> i smoked more then 10y
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> regulars and green ones :p
[14:03] <DosTuMai> Been smoking... 15yr? Quit for 3 years, started again...
[14:05]  * DosTuMai is listening to Atomic cat - Singular Dream [Trance Gression] (0:14/5:55)
[14:05] <DosTuMai> ^Love Atomic Cat's tunes.
[14:07] <DosTuMai> Funny how most of the people I know that are in to dance music also smoke other stuff. xD
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> its a new generation
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> i'm not into dance music
[14:14] <BluesKaj> boom boom boom boom x2....over and over
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:14]  * lotuspsychje likes digital boom boom music
[14:14] <DosTuMai> Only if played on really bad speakers in a car.
[14:15] <BluesKaj> boring, no wonder it's all sampled and stolen from real music
[14:15] <DosTuMai> You do get the bass thump, but decent producers add some really good music.
[14:16] <BluesKaj> I prefer the real thing, not some seqential beat crap
[14:16] <DosTuMai> As a drummer, I disagree. All music is sequential beats.
[14:16] <BluesKaj> reminds me alot of the 70s disco era
[14:17] <DosTuMai> And mathematics.
[14:17] <BluesKaj> DosTuMai, I'm a drummer as well, but older with taste for real music
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: african music has a returning beat pattern also
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> and its older then us all
[14:18] <DosTuMai> Should I dust off my Sabbath, then?
[14:18] <BluesKaj> nope, not a sabbath fan
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> i think repeating beats, awakens our spirit
[14:19] <DosTuMai> Lost the vast majority of my records, I have got some Yes, Gong, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Wizzard, Jethro Tull?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> but if you like black sabbath ...be my guest
[14:19] <BluesKaj> DosTuMai, must be your parent's collection ;-)
[14:20] <DosTuMai> And the Royal Philharmonic's 1812 Overture.
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> wb nicomachus
[14:20] <DosTuMai> Welcome back, nicomachus. =]
[14:20] <nicomachus> train wi-fi is slowww
[14:20] <BluesKaj> yup, Tsaikovsky ..grew up with classical music
[14:20] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: DJones took care of your printer found, and made them make a ticket for it
[14:20] <nicomachus> excellent
[14:21] <DosTuMai> BluesKaj: These are my own records. I love all kinds of music.
[14:21] <DosTuMai> I grew up listening to classic rock, got in to everything else on my own.
[14:22] <BluesKaj> cool
[14:22]  * nicomachus is listening to the Beatles on Spotify....finally
[14:22] <BluesKaj> yeah as of 12.01 AM
[14:24]  * DosTuMai is listening to Boom Boom Beckett - To Be a Master P. [Boom Boom Baby] (1:26/5:07)
[14:25] <DosTuMai> Better? A little smooth jazz. =]
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> DosTuMai  ok, now stop with sharing yout choice of music
[14:25] <DosTuMai> Okidoki.
[14:27] <BluesKaj> got some Christmas music on the stereo..trying to get into the sprit of the holiday, but the weather isn't exqctly Christmassy
[14:27]  * DosTuMai hisses.
[14:30] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, bah humbug! :-)
[14:31] <nicomachus> lotuspsychje: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers still no fix?
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: there's a ticket started by the help of DJones
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> nicomachus: but its xmass times...so lets just wait :p
[14:32] <nicomachus> ah, I see
[15:22] <phunyguy> hmm nice printers page
[15:22] <phunyguy> wonder if I can fix
[15:23] <nicomachus> you're welcome to try.  Love the 20th C references.
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> DosTuMai  do you even remember Kurt Cobain?
[15:51] <DosTuMai> Yes.
[15:52] <DosTuMai> And no, I wasn't hopelessly in love with him, that was Trent Reznor and David Bowie.
[15:52] <nicomachus> lol
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> david bowie... and you think we're old?
[15:52] <DosTuMai> He chose the worst way to re-style his hair, though.
[15:53] <nicomachus> hey, I'm not old, but I still like Bowie
[15:53] <DosTuMai> Umm, I never said anyone was old.
[15:53] <nicomachus> speaking of Bowie though: http://supbowie.com/
[15:54] <DosTuMai> When did I say anyone was old? o_O
[16:05] <DosTuMai> MonkeyDust: I don't say people are old unless it's people younger than me complaining about their age, or friends.
[16:05] <phunyguy> I don't have enough permissions to fix it.  Sorry folks.  ☺
[16:05] <nicomachus> oh well. hope nobody gets a new printer for christmas.
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> i put chr5 on ignore
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> *phew*
[16:43] <DosTuMai> I don't block people, I just ignore them.  And explaining the same thing repeatedly in several different ways.
[17:10] <slidinghorn> Happy holidays folks - just popping in to check messages and wish everyone well :)
[17:10] <DosTuMai> And a belated blessed solstice to you, too. =]
[17:11] <slidinghorn> thanks!
[17:15] <TJ-> It's a bit Gibbous :)
[17:15] <DosTuMai> =]
[17:40] <nicomachus> ikonia: having some trouble...?
[17:41] <DosTuMai> It's that same guy. =|
[17:41] <nicomachus> which guy?  It's a 4G connection with 82 devices currently connected...
[18:30] <nicomachus> ah, we're up to 90 now
[18:35] <daftykins> :S
[18:36] <daftykins> i could scale the image directly
[18:36] <daftykins> *and link directly
[18:37] <daftykins> nicomachus: try http://i.imgur.com/7gAh5tM.jpg
[18:37] <nicomachus> ouch. what happened to the poor thing?
[18:39] <daftykins> really sad story he told me earlier actually, not due to the phone though. he had been drinking with a colleague over on a neighbouring island where he works, came home to his apartment complex where an ambulance was waiting - pulled out his phone and saw it'd mysteriously broken on the way back
[18:40] <daftykins> anywho it transpired that some poor woman in her early 30s had tripped over a rug in her home and her head hit the end of a table, instant death :/
[18:41] <nicomachus> wow.
[18:42] <daftykins> shame on the phone though, admittedly we only learnt by tearing it down now, but the glass came off pretty easy so it could've been just a few quid to fix instead of £50 for the whole screen assembly
[23:18]  * krampuss Wishes all the good children a Merry Christmas; but as for the bad children, please eat your fill tonight...
[23:19]  * krampuss looks with glee in their eyes at the naughty list...
[23:24] <EriC^^> it's christmas after all, *tears the list and throws it into the fireplace*
[23:24] <EriC^^> gifts for everyone!
[23:44] <OerHeks> .. and full moon


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[02:08] <piphoe`> Toadstool, what ALL u got to do before sleeptime anyways ??
[02:11] <Toadstool> avoid irc first :)
[02:11] <Toadstool> and finish an important school report I had to deliver yesterday
[02:11] <Toadstool> I'm so late
[04:44] <zul> heylo
[04:47] <ryanakca> ehlo zul :)
[04:47] <zul> hi ryanakca
[07:03] <Hobbsee> haha
[07:14] <Kyral> zzzz
[07:15] <Kyral> must write....more...perl...dcop...interfaces
[07:15] <Hobbsee> hehe
[07:15] <Hobbsee> go Kyral!
[07:15] <Kyral> There is already a DCOP module in CPAN
[07:16] <Kyral> and DCOP::Amarok::Playlist
[07:39] <Gloubiboulga> morning MOTU world
[07:50] <Kyral> Night <FINALLY>
[10:17] <ivoks> pygi: hi
[10:17] <pygi> hey ivoks
[10:18] <ivoks> pygi: did you get SoC project?
[10:18] <pygi> ivoks, I am mentoring 3 students
[10:18] <ivoks> nice
[10:19] <ivoks> what are they doing?
[10:19] <pygi> Bzr-UI, Gedit bzr plugin, and Evo plugin for syncing with google cal, and palm (and stuff) devices
[10:30] <Amaranth> fun
[10:31] <Amaranth> that reminds me, i need to figure out why my module doesn't give the same output as the one i started with
[10:57] <phanatic> morning MOTUs
[11:29] <Toadstool> 'morning
[12:02] <Tonio_> hey
[12:05] <\sh> moins
[12:10] <siretart> morning
[12:10] <Whoopie> crimsun: who could sponsor the upload for your debdiff in bug #38272?
[12:10] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 38272 in xserver-xorg-input-mouse "option EmulateWheelTimeout not working" [Medium,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/38272
[12:11] <ajmitch> hi siretart
[12:11] <siretart> huhu ajmitch
[12:12] <siretart> ajmitch: can you help me with an selinux problem?
[12:12] <ajmitch> I guess
[12:12] <siretart> Upstream's Makefile.am is containing this fragment: http://paste.debian.net/7711, which makes my package FTBFS
[12:12] <ajmitch> what issues could you have?
[12:12] <siretart> at the chcon part (line 13 in the paste).
[12:12] <siretart> why is upstream doing this? is there a more clever way to do this?
[12:13] <ajmitch> that's marking the library as being broken
[12:13] <ajmitch> just strip it out for now, tar won't store the security label anyway
[12:13] <siretart> 'broken'?
[12:13] <siretart> so I should 'just' remove the whole hook?
[12:14] <ajmitch> from lines 7-16
[12:14] <ajmitch> 'broken', because it indicates bad coding, that is being worked around
[12:14] <siretart> ah. I see. thanks for advice
[12:15] <ajmitch> what upstream package?
[12:15] <_ion> In a situation like that, one should generally 1) remove the whole block or 2) source-depend on the program and make the block use it without the test.
[12:15] <siretart> ajmitch: xine-lib
[12:15] <ajmitch> figures
[12:16] <_ion> (Well, in 2 the test doesn't cause harm.)
[12:16] <ajmitch> the chcon part is saying that the policy should let it use an executable stack, iirc
[12:17] <siretart> ChangeLog:  * Fix using xine-lib on systems with SELinux enabled
[12:17] <ajmitch> 'fix'
[12:17] <siretart> from upstream changelog :/
[12:17] <ajmitch> might be executable heap, I can't recall :)
[12:21] <ajmitch> http://people.redhat.com/drepper/textrelocs.html
[12:21] <ajmitch> aha
[12:34] <_ion> Tremulous <http://tremulous.sourceforge.net/> would be a nice addition to universe. The code is GPL and the artwork is CC BY-SA 2.5
[12:35] <\sh> i would like to package nexuiz, but I don't find the source tarball, but it's gpl even the artwork
[12:35] <ThiefOfBaghdad> Anybody able to upgrade libglib2.0 ?
[12:35] <ThiefOfBaghdad> It keeps poping up err in reading header files
[12:35] <ThiefOfBaghdad> or rather Bad Header Line
[12:36] <ajmitch> ThiefOfBaghdad: if it's edgy, then it's known & will be sorted eventually, and people shouldn't expect edgy to work, boot or be functional
[12:36] <ThiefOfBaghdad> dapper ajmitch
[12:36] <\sh> oh nexuiz is alrady on revu
[12:36] <\sh> old version indeed
[12:36] <ajmitch> ThiefOfBaghdad: sounds more like a sources.list or mirror problem then
[12:37] <\sh> siretart: btw...is it possible to upload an already uploaded package (new version of course) by a different maintainer?
[12:37] <ajmitch> \sh: on REVU? yes, it'll overwrite the old one
[12:37] <\sh> ajmitch: ok...I never tried it :)
[12:38] <Hobbsee> heya \sh and ajmitch
[12:38] <ajmitch> it's happened a couple of times
[12:38] <ajmitch> hello Hobbsee
[12:38] <ThiefOfBaghdad> I tried all different mirrors ajmitch . "us." "archive." "in." All giving the same crap
[12:39] <_ion> thiefofbaghdad: All of those point to the same addresses.
[12:41] <ThiefOfBaghdad> _ion> can you suggest some other mirror then. It is a problem with these packages only.
[12:41] <ThiefOfBaghdad> _ion> Others get upgraded smoothly
[12:42] <ThiefOfBaghdad> _ion> this problem has been lingering around for about two weeks now
[12:44] <\sh> ThiefOfBaghdad: can you paste the errors on pastbin pls
[12:44] <\sh> but actually it's an #ubuntu question
[12:44] <ThiefOfBaghdad> ok I will ask there
[12:45] <\sh> ThiefOfBaghdad: no put the error output on pastebin
[12:45] <\sh> I don't think it's a problem with the archive..because I didn't have problems with archive.ubuntu.com
[12:45] <\sh> and if there would be a problem, we should have more impact
[12:47] <ThiefOfBaghdad> \sh> http://pastebin.com/716204
[12:47] <ThiefOfBaghdad> Similar errors for libtiff4 and 4 other packages
[12:50] <\sh> ThiefOfBaghdad: strange, never had this problem, and us.archive and archive are on the same ip...
[12:51] <ThiefOfBaghdad> only for some 4 packages out of the 8 listed.
[12:51] <\sh> remove the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/
[12:51] <\sh> and do an apt-get update again
[01:00] <\sh> ThiefOfBaghdad: and did it work?
[01:01] <ThiefOfBaghdad> update going on!
[01:03] <ThiefOfBaghdad> \sh> am on snail net :-) 64Kbps!
[01:12] <tuxmaniac> \sh> http://pastebin.com/716227
[01:12] <tuxmaniac> same error
[01:14] <\sh> rm /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin ; rm /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin
[01:14] <\sh> I'm sure it's a local problem
[01:14] <ajmitch> this tends to be ISPs having broken stuff in proxies
[01:14] <ajmitch> bug 26083
[01:14] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 26083 in apt "'Bad header line' error trying to update breezy/dapper" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/26083
[01:15] <\sh> wtf
[01:16] <ajmitch> proxies can be great for breaking the world
[01:18] <\sh> oh joy
[01:20] <\sh> in times where bandwidth is cheap
[01:21] <ajmitch> cheap, unless you live in NZ
[01:22] <tuxmaniac> Oh my god. Then I will never be able to upgrade these 4 packages is it? But other packages load. If it is a proxy problem then none of the packags should load right?
[01:22] <tuxmaniac> I mean load -> upgrade
[01:22] <\sh> no
[01:23] <\sh> some files are in the cache which are broken
[01:23] <\sh> and those files you likely need to update, and after the cache is not cleaned from those broken data files (by your isp) it could be a fun game
[01:24] <\sh> solution: kick your ISP or use another one without a proxy ;)
[02:00] <ajmitch> night all
[02:02] <Hobbsee> night ajmitch
[02:12] <siretart> re
[02:12] <\sh> re siretart
[02:13] <siretart> \sh: question answered?
[02:13] <\sh> siretart: yepp
[02:13] <\sh> boah...it's too hot here
[02:13] <kelmo> how hot?
[02:14] <\sh> I'll hang my washing and go to a query pond
[02:14] <siretart> kelmo: heyho
[02:14] <\sh> in my flat? 40-45 degrees
[02:14] <\sh> under the roof
[02:14] <kelmo> crap, that is way too hot for comfort
[02:14] <siretart> kelmo: here at least 38 degrees
[02:14] <kelmo> gday siretart
[02:15] <\sh> siretart: in the shadow?
[02:15] <kelmo> well, we had similar temps for quite a few months down in these parts ;-)
[02:15] <siretart> kelmo: I think we should file a RC bug to prevent propagation of wpasupplicant to testing. what do you think?
[02:15] <\sh> kelmo: where is "down in these parts"?
[02:15] <kelmo> \sh: brisbane, australia
[02:15] <siretart> \sh: in my room here. outside I'm not sure, but 30 minimum
[02:16] <\sh> kelmo: oh .. down under ;) well you are able to take those temperatures ;)
[02:17] <kelmo> siretart: if you think that is what is best for the project, i am not sure
[02:17] <siretart> kelmo: I think we should have some more testing in unstable.
[02:18] <paniq> okay, what is the new testing then? ;)
[02:18] <paniq> err, unstable.
[02:18] <siretart> kelmo: so that we have more time to consider reverting to 0.4 branch
[02:19] <kelmo> siretart: i'd suggest making having that conversation on the list in the coming days, and make a decision before EOW
[02:19] <kelmo> s/making//
[02:20] <siretart> kelmo: Ok. agreed
[02:21] <kelmo> siretart: i would need time to think thoroughly about that, and that won't be tonight ;-)
[02:21] <kelmo> siretart: and maybe Kyle and/or others would have voice too
[02:21] <siretart> sure
[02:22] <kelmo> but basically, you are asking the wrong man, 0.5 has features which i like ;-) so i need to put those feeling aside and think objectively about the larger picture
[02:23] <\sh> .oO(there is no future, until you shape the future yourself ;))
[02:27] <paniq> .oO(jesus christ is our saviour. no, wait...)
[02:46] <kelmo> siretart: what concerns do you have? mostly fact that it is not the stable version as tagged by upstream?
[02:46] <kelmo> or other concerns too?
[02:47] <siretart> kelmo: my concerns are a) bugs in the 0.5 branch, (not that unlikely, because I expect more test coverage on 'stable' branches), and that the 0.5 branch is too much in flux, read: behavior changes in subsequent releases of that branch
[02:50] <kelmo> siretart: 100% understood
[02:52] <kelmo> most recent changesets are focusing on the win32 port . . .
[02:53] <kelmo> i have never got around to trying the win32 wpa_supplicant
[06:41] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know of a deb for libncurses version 4?
[06:41] <pianoboy3333> bleh
[06:41] <pianoboy3333> sorry
[06:41] <pianoboy3333> Does anyone know of a deb for libnotify version 4?
[06:42] <\sh> checked packages.debian.org in experimental?
[06:49] <Kyral> hmm
[06:49] <Kyral> I may have to package a couple Perl modules...
[06:51] <Kyral> yah I have to....
[06:51] <Kyral> the DCOP module isn't in Ubuntu...
[06:51] <\sh> use python for qt/kde  stuff it's better and easier to read
[06:52] <Kyral> Psh
[06:52] <Kyral> I can use whatever I like
[06:52] <Kyral> and my perl code can be read :P
[06:52] <Kyral> Thats odd...there was a dcopperl package in Debian Woody
[06:52] <Kyral> hmm maybe...
[06:53] <Kyral> damnit they are only for KDE2
[06:55] <Kyral> and this is just a way for me to script Konversation things
[06:58] <Kyral> Besides I'm learning Perl right now ;P
[07:22] <chantra> hi, I'm having troubles to generate the .source.changes file when packaging
[07:22] <chantra> can somebody help me out
[07:24] <Sp4rKy|AWAY> what' s your issue ?
[07:25] <chantra> well, I do compile the package fine using dpkg-buildackage -rfakeroot -kmykey
[07:26] <chantra> when then I want to generate the source;changes using dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -sa -S -kmykey
[07:26] <chantra> there is no source.changes file appearing :s
[07:26] <chantra> I don't know what I'm missing here
[07:26] <chantra> Sp4rKy:
[07:27] <Gloubiboulga> do you have an error message?
[07:28] <Sp4rKy> chantra, do you have a valid orig filename ?
[07:29] <Sp4rKy> chantra, it should be <yourpackage>_<yourversion>.orig.tar.gz
[07:29] <chantra> Sp4rKy: yes, At least I guess :)
[07:30] <chantra> Sp4rKy: Gloubiboulga this is what I get when signing the files:
[07:30] <chantra> Merged changes with ../subtitleeditor_0.8.1-0ubuntu1_source.changes signfile ../subtitleeditor_0.8.1-0ubuntu1_i386.changes
[07:30] <chantra> and then, there is no source.changes in the directory
[07:31] <Sp4rKy> Gloubiboulga, i let you solve this issue , i know nothing about merging
[07:31] <chantra> :)
[07:31] <Sp4rKy> Gloubiboulga, i hope you'll learn to me
[07:32] <chantra> this procedure should be fine compare to what is told at
[07:32] <chantra> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU?action=show&redirect=REVU
[07:33] <Gloubiboulga> could you paste the entire output you got when running 'dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa'?
[07:34] <Gloubiboulga> I'll have a look after dinner if nobody find a solution 'til then ;)
[07:35] <chantra> shall I privmsg to you?
[07:38] <Gloubiboulga> chantra, paste the text on http://pastebin.com, it's easier
[07:39] <chantra> Gloubiboulga: here it is:
[07:39] <chantra> http://pastebin.com/716814
[07:48] <Gloubiboulga> chantra, doyou have the same problem if you remove the *changes files before creating the source package?
[07:54] <chantra> Gloubiboulga: no, it create but I can't upload to revu :s
[07:54] <chantra> Checking Signature on .changes
[07:54] <chantra> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[07:54] <chantra> gpg: the signature could not be verified.
[07:55] <chantra> while doing dput
[07:55] <Gloubiboulga> chantra, your key has been added by a REVU admin?
[07:56] <chantra> yep
[07:56] <chantra> if i upload the i386.changes (not source.changes) it uploads fine
[07:57] <Gloubiboulga> odd
[07:58] <chantra> yep
[07:58] <Gloubiboulga> what's your package name?
[08:00] <jpatrick> np: "And It Rained All Night" - Thom Yorke | The Eraser [amaroK]
[08:00] <Kyral> whoops wrong channel
[08:00] <Kyral> I wish I could understand how this perl DCOP module works
[08:01] <jpatrick> Kyral: now you've made start
[08:01] <chantra> Gloubiboulga: subtitleeditor-0.8.1
[08:01] <Kyral> jpatrick: huh?
[08:01] <jpatrick> on the now playing thing ;)
[08:01] <Kyral> lol
[08:01] <Kyral> I ment to send it into #ubuntuforums
[08:01] <_ion> On the Thom Yorke thing. ;-)
[08:02] <jpatrick> Thon Yorke is god
[08:02] <_ion> Not to mention Bjrk.
[08:02] <Kyral> I should learn Ruby
[08:02] <_ion> kyral: Yes.
[08:02] <Kyral> This month's Linux Journal is practically devoted to it
[08:02] <Kyral> how are the Ruby bindings to DCOP?
[08:03] <_ion> I have no idea.
[08:03] <jpatrick> _ion: have you listened to his "solo" album?
[08:03] <_ion> jpatrick: Nope.
[08:03] <\sh> Kyral: you don't want to use ruby
[08:03] <\sh> Kyral: ;)
[08:04] <_ion> sh: Yes, he does. ;-)
[08:04] <_ion> Fight! Fight!
[08:04] <Gloubiboulga> chantra, you might want to ask to a REVU admin, I can't really help... sorry
[08:04] <\sh> sorry, I just had in the office some ruby code
[08:04] <chantra> who are they?
[08:04] <chantra> Gloubiboulga:
[08:04] <\sh> chantra: what's up?
[08:04] <_ion> Some Ruby propaganda, written by me: http://johan.kiviniemi.name/stuff/python-ruby/
[08:04] <Gloubiboulga> chantra, \sh is an admin :)
[08:05] <Kyral> \sh: You just said I didn't want to learn Perl :P
[08:05] <chantra> \sh: I can generate the source.changes when dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -sa -S kmykey
[08:05] <Kyral> \sh: Python zealot :P
[08:05] <chantra> \sh: see http://pastebin.com/716814
[08:05] <\sh> Kyral: no..perl and python ;
[08:05] <\sh> chantra: give me a sec
[08:06] <chantra> okie dokie
[08:06] <Kyral> Bash has bindings to EVERYTHING :D
[08:06] <\sh> chantra: did you send a signed mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:06] <chantra> yep, I already managed to upload files
[08:07] <chantra> \sh: like http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2313
[08:07] <\sh> -rw-------  1 siretart revu    2026 2006-06-18 13:15 subtitleeditor_0.8.1-0ubuntu1.dsc
[08:07] <\sh> -rw-------  1 siretart revu    1465 2006-06-18 13:16 subtitleeditor_0.8.1-0ubuntu1_i386.changes
[08:07] <\sh> -rw-------  1 siretart revu<PHONE_NUMBER>-06-18 13:16 subtitleeditor_0.8.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[08:07] <\sh> that's the problem
[08:07] <chantra> ?
[08:07] <\sh> you uploaded a binary package :)
[08:07] <\sh> not a source package
[08:08] <Kyral> dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot :D
[08:08] <chantra> well, as I can't get to upload source.changes I gave a try with i386.changes
[08:08] <\sh> no...source.changes
[08:08] <\sh> chantra: and use pbuilder :)
[08:08] <chantra> my problem in the first place (I guess) Is that I can't generate source.changes
[08:08] <\sh> debuild -S -sa
[08:08] <\sh> will do what you want
[08:08] <siretart> uploading binary package is a really bad idea
[08:08] <\sh> I just removed it from incoming
[08:09] <chantra> I used dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -sa -S -kmykey
[08:09] <siretart> since it requires manual interaction of a revu admin to get it removed from the queue
[08:09] <chantra> sorry \sh and siretart :s
[08:09] <\sh> chantra: if you just need a source package :) use debuild -S -sa
[08:09] <chantra> okie, k=give it a try
[08:09] <\sh> (the -k<yourkey> is integrated because it takes your uid from changelog)
[08:09] <chantra> okie
[08:10] <\sh> we need a ubuntu motu school revival
[08:10] <Kyral> hehe soon I'll be upstream for you guys lol
[08:11] <\sh> _ion: I had a piece of ruby code which should have shown a tftpd server written in ruby..but it was crap...
[08:11] <_ion> sh: Ugly code can be written in any language. :-)
[08:11] <\sh> _ion: written by a very cool student...no sysadmin is writing scripts in ruby for daily business
[08:11] <chantra> \sh: I get the following error:
[08:11] <\sh> _ion: yes, but not in Ops :)
[08:11] <chantra>  dpkg-genchanges -S -sa
[08:11] <chantra> dpkg-genchanges: including full source code in upload
[08:11] <chantra> dpkg-buildpackage: source only upload (original source is included)
[08:11] <chantra> dpkg-buildpackage: ../subtitleeditor_0.8.1-0ubuntu1_i386.changes has no architecture field!
[08:11] <Kyral> Thats what shell scripts are for!!
[08:11] <chantra> debuild: fatal error at line 768:
[08:12] <chantra> dpkg-buildpackage failed!
[08:12] <Kyral> NO PASTE!!
[08:12] <chantra> woops, sorry
[08:12] <chantra> not even 5 line :p
[08:12] <Kyral> sorry reflex response
[08:12] <\sh> remove _i386.changes
[08:12] <chantra> :)
[08:12] <\sh> and everything you don't need
[08:13] <\sh> cd into the debianized source dir, and debuild -S -sa
[08:13] <\sh> it will work, if not then there is something else totally wrong
[08:14] <chantra> \sh: , you rock :)
[08:14] <\sh> chantra: no...I headbang normally ;)
[08:14] <chantra> I should have made its way up
[08:14] <chantra> \sh: :)
[08:15] <\sh> tiber needs more ram
[08:17] <chantra> thanks again \sh ... gonna upload a bunch of packages :p
[08:18] <\sh> chantra: np
[08:18] <\sh> chantra: thx for your work and contribution
[08:19] <chantra> a pleasure :)
[08:22] <\sh> oh wow it rains
[09:13] <marcin_ant> hi guys
[09:13] <marcin_ant> I got a question
[09:13] <\sh> we all have ;)
[09:13] <\sh> at least one ;)
[09:13] <marcin_ant> I would like to run and also prepare package with some python based webapp
[09:14] <marcin_ant> well maybe in fact not webapp - web framework that one can use to write webapp
[09:14] <marcin_ant> and my question is how to prepare configuration scripts
[09:15] <marcin_ant> I think that after installation every user should be able to run this framework in his home dir
[09:16] <marcin_ant> just like with mod_userdir in apache
[09:16] <marcin_ant> is there any _good_ policy that could tell how to do this?
[09:17] <\sh> marcin_ant: so he has to install it into his homedir?
[09:17] <marcin_ant> well no
[09:18] <\sh> or just a special configuration for apache to activate the framework?
[09:18] <\sh> you need to package it e.g. like moinmoin
[09:18] <\sh> and find a way to prepare a working apache2 configuration which works
[09:19] <marcin_ant> installation should go to /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages
[09:19] <\sh> yes normal python policy
[09:19] <marcin_ant> but then I would like to provide configuration for apache
[09:20] <marcin_ant> so user should have an ability to run this app from his http://localhost/~username
[09:20] <marcin_ant> without any problems
[09:20] <\sh> marcin_ant: provide a default configuration for it in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[09:20] <siretart> wwaargh..
[09:20] <siretart> anyone experience with cmake?
[09:21] <\sh> siretart: grmpf...sometime ago...
[09:21] <siretart> $package requires an out of source build. Please create a separate build directory and run...
[09:22] <siretart> wtf?!
[09:22] <marcin_ant> \sh: yes but with sites-available I will provide only systemwide url to this webapp right?
[09:22] <\sh> mkdir /tmp/buildir ?
[09:22] <\sh> marcin_ant: if mod_userdir is enabled you need to stick this configuration to it
[09:22] <marcin_ant> \sh: while it's not 100% webapp - it's framework that allows to write python based webapps
[09:23] <\sh> siretart: like building the kernel with a separate object dir?
[09:23] <siretart> \sh: now it complains that it doesn't find CMakeLists.txt
[09:23] <siretart> \sh: this is boson, a kde based game :/
[09:23] <\sh> siretart: yes, I know boson ;) I had the pleasure :)
[09:23] <siretart> why does everyone need to invent his own build system, which ftbfs with funny errors
[09:24] <\sh> cmake is not stable enough as far as  I read
[09:24] <\sh> siretart: would be an idea to ask in #kde4-devel
[09:24] <siretart> \sh: you have? do you happen to have some packages for version 0.12?
[09:24] <\sh> siretart: no...last time it was b0rked because of old self-shipped kdegames
[09:24] <\sh> includes
[09:24] <\sh> siretart: you remember?
[09:25] <siretart> \sh: I remember there was foo with boson 0.11
[09:25] <siretart> that version didn't use cmake yet
[09:25] <\sh> siretart: yes..then I gave up
[09:25] <siretart> we have a quite usable version of 0.11 now. I'm was looking if I could upgrade it to new upstream
[09:25] <siretart> but cmake is annoying me..
[09:26] <\sh> can't you revoke to gnu make?
[09:26] <siretart> how?
[09:27] <\sh> siretart: there should be a documentation for that.
[09:27] <\sh> wait a minute .... phone
[09:29] <\sh> siretart: wich package are you using? this all in one package?
[09:33] <zusocfc_> Hi, all
[09:33] <zusocfc_> BlueT_: !!!
[09:34] <siretart> \sh: the split one, the code package atm
[09:34] <zusocfc_> Excuse me.. I've some questions about upload files.
[09:34] <zusocfc_> siretart: Hi..
[09:35] <siretart> zusocfc_: hi. (don't ask to ask. just ask)
[09:35] <BlueT_> zusocfc_: :)
[09:36] <BlueT_> zusocfc_: first time been here? :)
[09:36] <zusocfc_> BlueT_: Yeah...
[09:36] <BlueT_> zusocfc_: :-3
[09:36] <siretart> which package is supposed to contain KDE3Config.cmake?
[09:37] <\sh> kdelibs4 ?
[09:37] <zusocfc_> siretart: in the mail which your reply, you said that I need to upload file right now?
[09:37] <\sh> from kde4
[09:37] <\sh> kdelibs4 (aka kde3) is still automake foo
[09:37] <zusocfc_> BlueT_: could I type in Chinese?
[09:38] <siretart> \sh: at least something I can handle
[09:38] <BlueT_> zusocfc_: no. plz use english here :)
[09:38] <zusocfc_> BlueT_: OK, sry
[09:39] <\sh> siretart: didn't work the install docu in code/INSTALL?
[09:39] <\sh> just create an object dir
[09:41] <_ion>
[09:41] <BlueT_> _ion: !!!!
[09:41] <zusocfc_> _ion: =  ="
[09:42] <siretart> \sh: it still complains about not finding KDE3Config.cmake
[09:42] <zusocfc_> BlueT_: it's all my fault XD
[09:42] <zusocfc_> Orz
[09:42] <BlueT_> zusocfc_: what fault?
[09:42] <\sh> siretart: it's not shipped by default kde
[09:42] <zusocfc_> BlueT_: let ion type in chinese @@
[09:42] <siretart> \sh: so the source is borked and I cannot build it? wtf?
[09:43] <siretart> this doesn't make kde nor cmake more pleasant for me :/
[09:43] <\sh> siretart: yes :)
[09:43] <siretart> not to speak about boson :/
[09:43] <\sh> kde is not at fault
[09:44] <BlueT_> zusocfc_: hahaha, that's not any fault at all :)
[09:44] <zusocfc_> BlueT_: >///<
[09:45] <BlueT_> zusocfc_: we have to respect this world wide channel :p
[09:45] <zusocfc_> BlueT_: :)
[09:45] <\sh> siretart: the best thing to do is to ask against which version of kde they are compiling...if it's kde4 you are fcked
[09:46] <siretart> \sh: it is explicitly asking for kde3
[09:46] <\sh> siretart: hmm...
[09:48] <\sh> siretart: let's see where this cmake file is
[09:49] <zusocfc_> BlueT_: sleep, night.
[09:50] <BlueT_> zusocfc_: nite :)
[09:58] <Riddell-awa> testers needed on teamspeak
[10:02] <\sh> siretart: looks like that it comes with a new cmake?
[10:03] <\sh> Riddell-awa: which server?
[10:03] <siretart> \sh: define 'new' cmake?
[10:04] <\sh> siretart: new version of cmake...I don't know which version are you using
[10:04] <siretart> I'm using 2.23
[10:04] <\sh> siretart: latest is 2.4.2
[10:05] <Riddell-awa> \sh: https://dot.kde.org/1150654117/
[10:05] <Riddell-awa> er, no
[10:05] <Riddell-awa> teamspeak.uds.canonical.com
[10:06] <\sh> anonymous login?
[10:07] <\sh> server password?
[10:12] <whiprush_> hey this is pretty neat
[11:50] <ajmitch> morning
[11:50] <\sh> moins ajmitch
[11:51] <mvirkkil> evening ajmitch
[11:51] <mvirkkil> or night, even :)


[06:47] <zdobbie> kateri uporniki pa so pridni tudi danes?
[06:57] <idioterna> vesel dan of
[08:19] <dz0ny> it was schrodingers cat that delayed ubuntu release
[16:27] <CrazyLemon> a kdo ve kateri je tisti app ki prikazuje števce prometa?
[16:28] <CrazyLemon> se mi zdi da je darstraffic to nekoč prikazoval ampak.. tega več ne najdem
[16:41] <speed-> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=si.a4c.cats
[16:41] <speed-> evo gor je!
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[16:41] <speed-> ce bi kdo rad dal oceno 5
[16:41] <speed-> slucajno
[16:41] <jabuk5> hidden object games but the objects are always the cats :)Enjoy and let us know what you think.
[16:41] <speed-> :D
[16:44] <CrazyLemon> one star from me
[16:44] <CrazyLemon> Velikost
[16:44] <CrazyLemon> 61M
[16:44] <speed-> :'(
[16:44] <CrazyLemon> HOW MANY CATS ARE THERE
[16:44] <speed-> ejj
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[16:45] <CrazyLemon> overkilling those cats!
[16:57] <speed-> mhm
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[16:57] <speed-> kamera mi ni kul kak se premika
[16:57] <speed-> to je en drugi delal
[16:57] <speed-> samo zdaj ni bilo casa to rihtat :D
[16:57] <speed-> bomo drugi teden :)
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[00:26] <popey> np ikonia
[05:04] <xosuitehearts> Okay. I need some help
[05:05] <xosuitehearts> Im thinking of wiping my drive and starting over with Ubuntu
[05:05] <xosuitehearts> but before I do that
[05:05] <xosuitehearts> I want to try and fix whatever is wrong with it.
[05:06] <xosuitehearts> Currently my update manager is giving me an error - "a problem occurred when checking for updates" - and in doing so I have a red circle with a white horizontal line through it
[05:07] <xosuitehearts> I've tried doing 'sudo apt-get update &&s sudo apt-get upgrade' - it will update fine but upgrade it gets stuck at 50% dependency
[05:31] <elky> xosuitehearts, this is #ubuntu-ops, and it's not a support channel, what channel did you try join?
[05:31] <xosuitehearts> I... I dont know
[05:31] <xosuitehearts> I was brought here
[05:32] <xosuitehearts> apparently I'm banned from #ubuntu because I said a person's advice he gave me wasnt very helpful
[05:33] <elky> ah ok, so that helps, let me find the information about the ban, it'll take a few minutes
[05:33] <elky> it'll help if you can give me some information about when this happened
[05:36] <xosuitehearts> last night
[05:37] <xosuitehearts> The guy was telling me that I needed to use a windows computer to fix my ntfs drive, and wouldnt even cooperate with the conditions that I had no windows computer to do so with
[05:37] <xosuitehearts> and told me basically to find someone that did
[05:37] <xosuitehearts> when there's other ways Im sure to fix an NTFS external drive
[05:37] <xosuitehearts> ive done it before but apparently forgotten
[05:38] <xosuitehearts> so I told him his advice was useless and that I would tell the rest of the ubuntu ops about how pointless and very unhelpful his advice was
[05:39] <elky> xosuitehearts, linux can't do any management of ntfs. you can connect to it, read from it and if you have special drivers, write to it, but you can't do anything else. So he's correct, and it's unfortunate for you, but it's how it is
[05:39] <xosuitehearts> alright
[05:40] <xosuitehearts> but still, I tried to show him a screen of what was happening and that it was more than just my external i needed help with
[05:40] <xosuitehearts> and he wouldnt even look
[05:40] <xosuitehearts> the guy was being plain rude
[05:40] <elky> he did look.
[05:40] <xosuitehearts> he didn't offer any sort of support after that
[05:40] <xosuitehearts> about any of my other issues
[05:41] <elky> because there's nothing he can do. there's nothing I can do now either.
[05:41] <xosuitehearts> what do you mean nothing you can do?
[05:41] <CarlFK> to keep things on topic, this is not about other peoples behavor
[05:41] <elky> if your ntfs filesystem is faulty, then I there's nothing we can help you with for problems it's causing.
[05:42] <xosuitehearts> alright, then can you help me with something else?
[05:42] <xosuitehearts> because until im unbanned from the actual ubuntu channel I dont have many places to go to
[05:43] <elky> well there's the forums and askubuntu.com
[05:43] <xosuitehearts> Ive tried that. I need some realtime help
[05:44] <xosuitehearts> do you want me to apologize to ikonia? I agree I may have been out of line, but I was disappointed in how approached me
[05:45] <xosuitehearts> I'll gladly take this to #ubuntu instead of #ubuntu-ops
[05:45] <xosuitehearts> because this is obviously the wrong channel
[05:45] <pangolin> !guidelines
[05:45] <pangolin> xosuitehearts: if you can have a read at the above link
[05:46] <pangolin> let me know if you understand them and agree to abide by the guidelines and we will get you back into #ubuntu.
[05:46] <elky> xosuitehearts, we need some assurance that you're not going to respond to people by yelling (that's talking in all caps) about things they can't have known.
[05:47] <xosuitehearts> pangolin - I have read, and understand, and agree to abide by the guidelnes.
[05:47] <pangolin> elky: if you agree I will remove the ban?
[05:48] <xosuitehearts> elky: alright.  it won't happen again.
[05:48] <elky> pangolin, sounds fair
[05:48] <pangolin> ban removed, you can join now.
[05:49] <xosuitehearts> thank you.
[05:49] <xosuitehearts> join #ubuntu
[05:49] <pangolin> /
[05:49] <pangolin> also please part this channel.
[09:16] <ikonia> coolstar: how can we help you ?
[09:18] <ikonia> I'm assuming you'd like to discuss why you where banned from #ubuntu ?
[09:24] <coolstar> ok
[09:25] <ikonia> not really that much to discuss, you are asked to stop spamming/recruiting for your project in #ubuntu and you continue to do so , you got banned
[09:25] <ikonia> so not sure what you want from us ?
[09:25] <coolstar> is it ok in the offtopic channel?
[09:26] <coolstar> i probably shud have read the guidelines.
[09:26] <ikonia> not really, it's good to inform people if it's in a conversation, but you are just spamming it in channels
[09:26] <ikonia> come on - that's not an excuse
[09:26] <ikonia> you where asked by someone to not do it two times,
[09:27] <coolstar> ok. i'm sorry. I didn't know I would've gotten banned
[09:27] <ikonia> I shouldn't have had to ban you
[09:27] <ikonia> being asked to do something by multiple people multiple times should be enough
[09:28] <ikonia> the deal shouldn't be "I'll stop but only because I know I'll get banned", it should be "I'll stop because you've asked me to on a few occasions now"
[09:28] <ikonia> even after I banned in in #ubuntu, you joined #ubuntu-offtopic and did the same thing
[09:29] <ikonia> so even after you knew you'd been banned for doing it you joined did it again in #ubuntu-offtopic, which is much less of a problem, but not the best thing to do after you've been banned for doing it in another ubuntu channel
[09:30] <coolstar> ok. I have read the guidelines and understand now what I shouldn't do in the channels.
[09:30] <ikonia> why did you not stop when asked ?
[09:30] <ikonia> if you need a guideline to tell to stop when people are asking you to stop, there is a problem
[09:34] <coolstar> i know now that what I was talking about in the official ubuntu channel probably shud have been in off topic, since it is off topic
[09:34] <ikonia> coolstar: you where asked to stop yes/no ?
[09:35] <coolstar> people just told me that the ubuntu channel was where "n00bs are trying to get ubuntu running"
[09:36] <ikonia> coolstar: that's nothing to do with what we are talking about
[09:36] <ikonia> coolstar: you where asked to stop spamming the channel with your open source project yes/no
[09:37] <coolstar> How is 2 lines spamming? Spamming is more like 100+ lines.
[09:37] <ikonia> coolstar: you where asked to stop spamming the channel with your open source project yes/no
[09:38] <coolstar> I am not really sure, as I don't go to an irc and start logging.
[09:38] <ikonia> you're not sure, right
[09:38] <ikonia> coolstar: despite me joining your channel and talking to you for about 20 minutes on it
[09:38] <ikonia> I won't discuss this any further as now you are telling lies to my face,
[09:38] <ikonia> I'll ask you to leave the channel and come back when you can be honest
[09:39] <coolstar> I think I mite have been asked. not sure though.
[09:39] <ikonia> good bye
[09:53] <coolstar> ok. i remember now. i was asked
[09:57] <coolstar> ikonia: u thr?
[09:57] <ikonia> sorry, no I'm busy at the moment, come back later
[11:00] <coolstar-ipod> ikonia: u thr?
[11:17] <bazhang> floodbotk3 is going nuts
[13:15] <Kottizen> hi, is there any reason why FloodBot keeps opping itself in #kubuntu?
[13:15] <bazhang> brokenness I suspect
[13:22] <Pici> Kottizen: looking at it now
[13:22] <Kottizen> okay, great
[14:15] <mneptok> coolstar: would you like your ban to be removed?
[14:16] <mneptok> coolstar: if so, i'm happy to discuss it with you. however, i will be asking questions, and expect answers to only the questions i ask. not a running monologue. if you can answer my questions, maybe you can get yourself back into #ubuntu
[14:18] <mneptok> coolstar: if you are not here to discuss your ban, please respect this channel's no-idle policy and /part
[14:18]  * mneptok sets the timer and goes to fetch the banhammer
[14:45] <oCean> sigh
[14:45] <bazhang> blueskaj used to be better
[14:47] <oCean> likes to add offtopic comment every now and then
[14:48] <bazhang> fuel the fire and criticize us mostly
[14:48] <oCean> he likes to do that too
[14:50] <oCean> * usuario<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[14:50] <oCean> oh yay
[14:50] <bazhang> thats just user afaik
[14:50] <oCean> oh, right
[14:50] <oCean> made that mistake before
[14:50] <oCean> :s
[14:50] <bazhang> espanol live cd perhaps
[14:51] <oCean> I should learn some espanol :)
[15:37] <mneptok> i need to improve my Spanish. vastly.
[15:37] <beuno> si
[15:37] <mneptok> this from the person that cannot spell "bueno"
[15:37] <mneptok> ;)
[15:38] <bazhang> hoho
[15:38]  * beuno hands mneptok the point
[15:38] <mneptok> and you're supposed to say "be one with the point."

[15:39] <beuno> maybe you don't need to improve your spanish  ;)
[15:40] <mneptok> well, my Caribbeano slang and profanity falls on deaf ears here in NM. so i at least have to train up on impolite Mexicano spanish. :)
[15:41] <jpds> A ver, chicos.
[15:41] <mneptok> Castellano i'll worry about when i have the kind of money it takes to vacation in Spain
[15:41] <jpds> mneptok: Just watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWrbAmtZuGc
[15:41] <mneptok> caralho ...
[15:41]  * mneptok goes to look
[15:44] <mneptok> ai ai ai. es laaaaaaaargo. no mi gusta.
[19:11] <pangolin> what is krisss117 on about?
[19:21] <jpds> pangolin: We may never know.
[19:22] <pangolin> :)
[19:50] <Prodego> you guys have an on-join spammer
[19:50] <Prodego><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:50] <Prodego> Got sent "<lissa> hii sexyycamms shoow http://on-cam.de.lv/" on join
[19:52] <pangolin> thank you Prodego
[19:52] <Prodego> np
[19:57]  * mneptok taps Prodego and gestures at the /topic
[19:58] <Prodego> oh sorry, yep
[19:58] <mneptok> thankke