[06:00] <jphilipz> presume you can ping bluesabre
[06:00] <jphilipz> Unit193: is it possible to get xfce4-panel-profiles added the to staging ppa?
[06:03] <Unit193> Hopefully it works.
[06:05] <jphilipz> bluesabre put out the 1.0.13 release in feb and it would be good to test it out on my 20.04 laptop
[10:26] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: Update wallpaper for Xubuntu 21.04 @ https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-artwork/commit/489a5e321f514fac1c0681c4b57b069e005f87d9 (by knomepasi)
[10:51] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: Update changelog with lp bugs @ https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-artwork/commit/da5329d41294508c997c9111824591748439abc4 (by bluesabre)
[17:53] <jphilips> Unit193: please approve xlmnxp's request to be part of the arabic team on transifex
[17:54] <jphilips> can i get permission to add people to different teams, as a number of people are joining the telegram group who are doing translation work
[23:25] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: Refresh debian packaging @ https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-artwork/commit/0fc23ec1ec80bbf783676cfc3da4a12ce0d194cc (by bluesabre)
[23:50] <bluesabre> Unit193: whats wrong with the docs' translations?
[23:50] <Unit193> Unmergable strings.
[23:51] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: Release xubuntu-artwork 21.04.1 @ https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-artwork/commit/cf48d6db3d38a771b89eeb2a66bbcff28f2c30d6 (by bluesabre)
[23:56] <Unit193> jphilips: FWIW, I don't see it.
[23:56] <Unit193> bluesabre: Did you see a message from hugok dated Jan 2, on transifex?
[23:58] <bluesabre> Unit193: I don't think so, https://imgur.com/9IxpBt9
[23:58] <Unit193> https://paste.unit193.net/?9197e9d60dae9fc9#K5vNjUCnHTlXX6sG3jqkmsZanFCc57hwhxkNkZ0PtoE=


[00:07] <thomi> hey veebers - WRT your email on the unity8 failures - were they skipped after the point where they started filing?
[00:22] <veebers> thomi: they were failing in the setUp of the test cases (it was making a flawed assumption on wherever it was running local or system and tried to launch nothing)
[00:22] <thomi> veebers: gotchya
[06:09] <DanChapman> Good Morning all
[06:11] <elfy> morning DanChapman
[06:15] <Guest94878> morning. i have a pastebin link. i want to make cadence testing but i cant put it in temporary files in ubuntu wiki.help please
[06:15] <DanChapman> heya elfy :-)
[09:11] <slickymaster> morining all
[09:11] <slickymaster> morning
[09:11] <DanChapman> Morning slickymaster :-)
[09:12] <slickymaster> hi DanChapman
[10:01] <davmor2> Morning all
[12:29] <jibel> gema, om26er I think my "unity8 failed to start" bug is bug 1235000
[12:29] <om26er> I know that one
[12:30] <om26er> jibel, so unity8 starts to take a while on boot but before that the screen has already dimmed so it won't start. is that right ?
[12:30] <om26er> s/dimmed/turned-off
[12:30] <om26er> actually there was another bug for that as well
[12:31] <om26er> what(): Could not unblank display
[12:31] <jibel> om26er, correct, that's how I understand it
[12:31] <jibel> om26er, another way to reproduce it to press the power button when the google logo is displayed during boot to turn display off
[12:31] <om26er> jibel, bug 1188504
[12:35] <jibel> om26er, thanks, it could be the same issue indeed
[12:40] <davmor2> om26er: do me a favour, drop some music on your phone.  while it's playing hit the power button then touch the screen.  then compare that with if you let the phone sleep
[12:41] <gema> jibel: ack, I tagged it so that it appears on the radar
[12:41] <om26er> davmor2, how do I verify sleep ?
[12:41] <om26er> a song is being played right now.
[12:42] <jibel> gema, thx
[12:42] <davmor2> om26er: just let the screen blank
[12:42] <gema> davmor2: the music shouldn't stop,r ight?
[12:42] <om26er> davmor2, here is a thing you say: "hit the power button then touch the screen" that needs to be cleared up. You want me to turn off the screen and then touch it ?
[12:42] <davmor2> om26er: I think the powerd fix they did to stop music dying is keeping the screen active
[12:43] <davmor2> om26er: yeap
[12:43] <om26er> right, qtpowerd
[12:43] <davmor2> om26er: when you compare it you'll see the difference in behaviour
[12:45] <davmor2> om26er: the other thing to try is let the screen blank with no music playing and then touch the screen
[12:46] <davmor2> gema: music doesn't stop on last nights image
[12:46] <gema> davmor2: it shouldn't should it?
[12:46] <gema> davmor2: I don't want to have my screen on to hear music
[12:46] <gema> davmor2: that's a waste of battery, i mo
[12:46] <gema> imo
[12:46] <om26er> I think music have been working without the need to turn off the screen for 3 days now
[12:47] <davmor2> gema: that's what I'm saying sorry.  Music contiues when the screen sleeps
[12:47] <om26er> *need to keep it on
[12:47] <gema> davmor2: ah, ok
[12:47] <gema> davmor2: we agree then :D
[12:47] <om26er> davmor2, confirmed, screen turns on
[12:48] <om26er> davmor2, can you report a bug for that?
[12:48] <davmor2> om26er: can you do the honours I'm kinda stuck in application hell today
[12:50] <om26er> davmor2, I think the second part of the fix is not yet in
[12:50] <om26er> qtpowerd is supposed to be on the system for things to behave and its probably not released yet
[12:50] <om26er> https://code.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/qtpowerd/trunk
[12:51] <om26er> lool, hey! with the latest music app, if a song is being played and the screen dims off automatically it seems we can bring the screen back up by just tapping on the screen.
[12:51] <lool> om26er: ah right, could you please log a bug on this?
[12:51] <lool> om26er: against qtpowerd
[12:52] <om26er> lool, ok, thanks
[12:52] <om26er> lool, I think qtpowerd is not in yet ?
[12:52] <om26er> in as in the image
[12:53] <lool> om26er: it's in the coreapps PPA
[12:54] <jibel> om26er, 0.2~bzr5~ubuntu13.10.1 is on the image
[12:55] <om26er> jibel, ack
[13:27] <DanChapman> jibel, hey if you get a spare couple of minutes today could you change the jenkins ubiquity tests to run 'ubiquity_autopilot_tests.testdefault' and 'ubiquity_autopilot_tests.test_lvm'.
[13:27] <DanChapman> please :-)
[13:31] <jibel> DanChapman, hey, I'll try to do that today, but my DSL died so I've very bad connectivity to the lab. I'll see what I can do
[13:35] <DanChapman> jibel, thanks mate :-)
[14:10] <davmor2> guys go into setting → about phone → storage  how much space does it say you have?
[14:15] <alesage> davmor2, ok
[14:16] <alesage> davmor2, mako 2.1 GB total, free 960.3 MB
[14:16] <davmor2> alesage: bit shy of the 16GB then :)
[14:16] <davmor2> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-system-settings/0.1+13.10.20131004-0ubuntu1  fixed already apparently
[14:16]  * alesage wants a refund
[14:18] <jibel> mine agrees with alesage
[14:18] <davmor2> alesage: sorry no refunds you voided your warranty when you unlocked the device
[14:20] <alesage> davmor2, heh
[14:21] <jibel> davmor2, what device do you have, my mako only have 8GB
[14:22] <jibel> ?
[14:22] <davmor2> maguro 16
[14:23] <davmor2> jibel: they only came in 16 and 32
[14:23] <jibel> hm, and grouper has nothing, it ran out of battery again :/
[14:26] <om26er> nuclearbob, hey
[14:26] <om26er> nuclearbob, can you add to bug 1234722 for which Video formats are working for you and which not
[14:26] <davmor2> jibel: don't use mir on grouper it kills it in seconds
[14:27] <nuclearbob> om26er: I haven't gotten any video to actually play video, do you want me to add which audio formats work?
[14:27] <om26er> sergiusens, ^
[14:29] <davmor2> om26er: mp4 works for me
[14:29] <sergiusens> nuclearbob, device and video's would be better
[14:29] <sergiusens> davmor2, the file omer added to the bug works for me too
[14:29] <nuclearbob> sergiusens: can do.  I can't seem to run that start command from the bug as the phablet user, should I be using root?
[14:29] <om26er> davmor2, there is more to mp4 that just mp4 :)
[14:30] <om26er> *than
[14:30] <sergiusens> nuclearbob, should be done as user
[14:30] <om26er> davmor2, I have multiple mp4s some play some don't
[14:31] <jibel> om26er, alesage davmor2 do the volume buttons work for you?
[14:31] <om26er> jibel, under Mir they won't
[14:31] <jibel> om26er, do you have a bug # ?
[14:31] <davmor2> jibel: not under mir but they do under SF
[14:31] <om26er> jibel, I think there is. let me find it
[14:32] <nuclearbob> sergiusens: is there a way I can have gstreamer give me the codec info for a file?  I've mostly done that with mplayer in the past
[14:33] <sergiusens> nuclearbob, just run mediaplayer with GST_DEBUG=*:3
[14:34] <nuclearbob> sergiusens: thanks.  I'll post the things I can't play on my maguro
[14:34] <om26er> jibel, bug 1233245
[14:35] <jibel> om26er, thanks
[14:36] <davmor2> sergiusens, om26er, nuclearbob: http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/  I think there is a better repo of clips that I think is vlc but I can't find it currently  but this might be worth using as a standard?
[14:36] <nuclearbob> davmor2: that's almost certainly better than the random collection of music videos I've been using :)
[14:37] <om26er> davmor2, thanks. I found a lots of files in lots of different formats there.
[14:37] <nuclearbob> unless they all work right, then it's not helpful
[14:37] <om26er> probably better if we were told that you should be testing "these" formats rather than trying to play all the different formats out there.
[14:38] <nuclearbob> I'm trying to test what gstreamer says the phone supports
[14:38] <nuclearbob> so far I haven't had any luck with that
[14:38] <nuclearbob> well, I did have some audio working
[14:39] <nuclearbob> sergiusens: when I run the application with GST_DEBUG=*:3, where does that info actually go?  should I be running mediaplayer-app manually and not via upstart?
[14:40] <sergiusens> nuclearbob, ah, if via upstart initctl set-env GST_DEBUG=*:3
[14:41] <sergiusens> nuclearbob, then try again and check ~/.cache/upstart/application-legacy/medi*.log
[14:42] <nuclearbob> sergiusens: thanks, that's a lot of data.  Any thoughts on a pattern to look for to figure out what codecs are in use?  I should be able to find it either way
[14:43] <sergiusens> nuclearbob, grep for No decoder available for type
[14:43] <nuclearbob> sergiusens: I don't see that, so it thinks it can decode it
[14:44] <sergiusens> nuclearbob, is the mediaplayer focused on the screen?
[14:44] <nuclearbob> sergisuens: yes.  I click play, and the play button changes to a pause icon, but the screen is black and there's no audio
[14:44] <sergiusens> nuclearbob, if this is mako, jhodapp is working on a color correction bug there btw
[14:45] <nuclearbob> sergiusens: this is maguro
[14:45] <sergiusens> nuclearbob, can I get the file?
[14:45] <nuclearbob> sergiusens: yes, give me a bit
[14:45]  * sergiusens hopes it's not 1TB of data
[14:45] <nuclearbob> nope
[14:46] <cgoldberg> balloons, hey.  I'm working with jcollado, but I'm on the hook for the ui-toolkit sphinx docs later today or monday
[14:46] <balloons> cgoldberg, :-)
[14:46] <cgoldberg> balloons, are there any other projects that need sphinx docs?
[14:46] <cgoldberg> since i'll be in doc generation mode :)
[14:47] <balloons> mm, good question.. There is one more emulator, the gtk emulator, which is being looked at to merge
[14:52] <DanChapman> balloons: It needs a fair bit more work before the gtk emulator will be ready for merge, which is on hold till I have finished ubiquity tests :-)
[14:52] <balloons> yes, cgoldberg ^^. But it's the only only sphinx doc work I know of. So I guess the answer is no, but maybe later :-)
[14:54] <sergiusens> nuclearbob, the video you gave me, I can see, and I'm on maguro
[14:56] <nuclearbob> sergiusens: interesting.  On mir on the current image, right?
[14:57] <sergiusens> nuclearbob, I just switched to sf, let me go back to mir
[14:57] <balloons> DanChapman, can you link the pad for ubiquity stuff again?
[14:57] <nuclearbob> sergiusens: I'll try sf and see if that works for me
[14:57] <DanChapman> balloons: sure http://pad.ubuntu.com/k6nvveLDHX
[14:58] <balloons> DanChapman, I want to convert that to a wiki page :-)
[15:02] <nuclearbob> sergiusens: mir isn't running, but I still see a warning about mirsink in the gst debug.  Is that expected?  I don't see the video also
[15:07] <nuclearbob> sergiusens: I could have sworn I was on image 80, but I just checked and I'm on 78.  Maybe I mixed up my maguro with my grouper.  I'll retry on 80
[15:08] <sergiusens> nuclearbob, I'm on 78 btw
[15:08] <nuclearbob> segiusens: oh, okay.  Hmm, then.  Not sure
[15:09] <sergiusens> nuclearbob, and works on mir, sorry otp so slow
[15:09] <nuclearbob> sergiusens, no problem.  I can't get it working on either, so I'm going to flash and try again
[15:14] <balloons> ok, mir switched on again ;l-)
[15:14] <sergiusens> nuclearbob, are you in read only?
[15:17] <davmor2> om26er: you running mir still?
[16:02] <lool> win 66
[16:02] <lool> ups
[16:21] <elopio> sergiusens, I heard you know how to make a mouse pointer visible on the phone.
[16:21] <elopio> would you trade your secrets?
[16:21] <sergiusens> elopio, you just need to create a hovering device
[16:25] <om26er> davmor2, yes
[16:25] <sergiusens> elopio, something like system/usr/idc/autopilot-finger.idc but with deviceType to pointer
[16:26] <davmor2> om26er: open a terminal, open the keyboard, rotate the phone open the keyboard again how much of the keyboard works?
[16:26] <sergiusens> elopio, I may be forgetting a couple of things, so here's the full doc https://source.android.com/devices/tech/input/touch-devices.html
[16:26] <elopio> sergiusens, thanks!
[16:27] <sergiusens> elopio, oh, nd if you are using evdev -> BTN_TOOL_MOUSE
[16:27] <om26er> davmor2, only half, probably the part which was there before rotation. Confirmed
[16:58] <slickymaster> balloons: ping
[16:58] <balloons> slickymaster, pong -- how are you?
[16:58] <slickymaster> balloons: fine, thanks. Just a quick one
[16:59] <slickymaster> balloons: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1172046 it's almost finished,
[17:00] <slickymaster> balloons: , the only thing I'm having doubts with is whether "NB: w3m basics: moving cursor and hit 'Enter' to follow links, 'B' to come back to the previous page, 'q' to quit" should be added or not
[17:00] <slickymaster> balloons: added as comment of course
[17:01] <davmor2> guys as mir has no screen capture tool currently use cheese on your desktop as a screen shot tool :)
[17:03] <slickymaster> balloons: or perhaps an example could be wrote to demonstrate in a real web-page?
[17:05] <balloons> slickymaster, I'm confused about what the issue with 23m is
[17:06] <slickymaster> balloons: issue with 23m??? what are you speaking about? now I'm lost
[17:06] <balloons> w3m :-) my typing skills ...
[17:07] <slickymaster> balloons: in the Bug Description you wrote that "In addition, this step is just instructional and should be added as a comment, not an action" regarding the w3m basics
[17:08] <slickymaster> balloons: so I'm wondering if it should be included in the testcase using an example of a real web page, or if it should dropped completely
[17:08] <slickymaster> should be dropped ;)
[17:09]  * slickymaster typing skills aren't so good either
[17:10] <slickymaster> elfy: hi elfy
[17:11] <elfy> hi slickymaster
[17:11] <slickymaster> elfy: how are you? Fine I hoe
[17:12] <slickymaster> hope
[17:12] <elfy> yep all good thanks slickymaster - you too I hope :)
[17:12] <slickymaster> elfy: yeah, thnaks
[17:12]  * slickymaster is completly unable to type correctly
[17:13] <DanChapman> evening elfy and slickymaster
[17:13] <slickymaster> hi DanChapman
[17:13] <elfy> hi DanChapman and wb
[17:13] <DanChapman> :-)
[17:25]  * slickymaster is convinced that balloons has completely forgot what he asked him
[17:28] <DanChapman> balloons: so are you wanting to move that ubiquity pad to a wiki page or did you mean something else?
[17:29] <slickymaster> DanChapman: I think balloons fall asleep. I asked him something 25 minutes ago and I'm still waiting ;)
[17:29] <DanChapman> hehe
[18:19] <balloons> slickymaster, DanChapman lol
[18:20] <balloons> Sorry IRC client sucking today and not relaying things nicely
[18:20] <balloons> slickymaster, I would just drop it
[18:20] <balloons> DanChapman, yes the page is in progress
[18:20] <slickymaster> balloons: ok, later on I'll push it and propose to merge
[18:21] <balloons> DanChapman, feel free to edit away on the pad I'll make sure things get moved properly
[18:22] <balloons> slickymaster, thanks!
[18:23] <slickymaster> balloons: np, I'll able to pick up a new one :)
[18:27] <slickymaster> balloons, DanChapman, elfy, cy later
[19:57] <jfunk> ping ubuntu-qa (or anyone) can I get some help confirming:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/address-book-app/+bug/1226895
[19:57] <jfunk> I just checked and this defect is still happening for me, very quick to reproduce
[19:59] <robotfuel> jfunk: I'll look
[20:02] <robotfuel> grrr my phone doesn't want to boot
[20:04] <jfunk> thanks robotfuel!
[20:11] <robotfuel> jfunk: it works for me
[20:13] <jfunk> robotfuel, :(
[20:13] <jfunk> robotfuel, are you using mako or maguro?
[20:13] <robotfuel> jfunk: maguro
[20:14] <jfunk> did you dial out, or receive a call
[20:14] <robotfuel> jfunk: dial out
[20:15] <robotfuel> jfunk: I wonder if it's a first time you open the calllog thing
[20:15] <jfunk> robotfuel, perhaps, it was directly after a flash
[20:16] <robotfuel> I'll reflash and try
[20:16] <robotfuel> jfunk: unless you know where the database is so I can delete it
[20:17] <robotfuel> I found it /userdata/user-data/phablet/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system/contacts.db
[20:18] <jfunk> nice
[20:24] <robotfuel> jfunk: it still worked
[20:24] <jfunk> :/
[20:25] <robotfuel> jfunk: I'll try a reflash I can't find the call log database it had the old calls in it
[20:25] <jfunk> thank you, it's a big help
[21:07] <robotfuel> jfunk: it still works
[21:31] <balloons> btw jfunk_ that bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/address-book-app/+bug/1226895 exists for me on mako
[21:34] <jfunk_> balloons, \o/ I was beginning to think I was crazy
[21:41] <SergioMeneses> balloons, busy?
[21:41] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, \o
[21:41] <balloons> SergioMeneses, not too busy for you :-) What's up?
[21:41] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, yo
[21:41] <SergioMeneses> balloons, pm
[21:42] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, how you been?
[21:44] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, alright. Im just getting ready for work but im good.
[21:45] <SergioMeneses> philipballew, are you working? o0
[21:47] <philipballew> SergioMeneses, Yeah. I am a bus driver
[21:47] <SergioMeneses> :O
[21:50] <jfunk_> balloons, do you mind confirming the defect
[21:51] <jfunk_> and on that note I am EOD
[21:51] <jfunk_> EOD all ciao
[22:12]  * cgoldberg EODs
[23:26] <slickymaster> good night all


[00:28] <Daskreech> Just a note that the Feedback Page is for Beta1
[00:28] <Daskreech> Might want to make they just a Beta Feedback page
[07:29] <snele> guys notification sounds still don't work in precise. I hope you are aware of this bug :)
[07:39] <snele> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/946238
[07:39] <snele> this bug is fixed in qt 4.8.1. will precise ship qt 4.8.1?
[08:43] <apachelogger> interesting
[08:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ^
[08:50] <georgelappies> what does this error mean: "Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/za.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_universe_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch"
[08:51] <georgelappies> it came up when trying to update 12.04
[08:55] <Riddell> try another mirror
[08:55] <Riddell> geeks, help me out, my mortgage is 4% APR and my neighbours are 1 month late paying £16.72 what has it cost me so I can add it to the bill?
[09:08] <jussi> Riddell: about 7p
[09:10] <Riddell> jussi: how'd you calculate that?
[09:10] <Riddell> it's less than that by a long way
[09:10] <jussi> http://math.about.com/library/blcompoundinterest.htm
[09:12] <Riddell> 7P is > 4% of 16.72
[09:12] <Riddell> I want the reverse compound interest calculation over a 12 unit (months) period
[09:12] <jussi> sorry, should be 5 p, I put slightly more than 1 month
[09:13] <Riddell> mm, yes that is 0.08 of it
[09:13] <Riddell> lovely, thanks :)
[09:13] <jussi> :)
[09:13] <Riddell> good think I'm not charging your consultancy fees on top of it :)
[09:13] <Riddell> thing
[09:14] <jussi> hehe
[09:14] <jussi> I only charge 1 packet of beef sausages...
[09:14] <jussi> :P
[09:14] <Riddell> and a bottle of whisky :)
[09:14] <jussi> yeah :D
[09:14] <Riddell> come to UDS and you can borrow some from the one I owe afiestas_
[09:33] <apachelogger> Riddell: you owe afiestas_ beef sausages? Oo
[09:34] <Riddell> no, whisky
[09:34] <Riddell> in return for turron, it's a fair swap
[09:41] <apachelogger> whisky is the scottish equvivalent of turron? :P
[09:50] <apachelogger> mhhhh
[09:50] <apachelogger> you wanna change some code and do a diff
[09:50] <apachelogger> what ends up in the diff
[09:51] <apachelogger> kate's rubbish backup files
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:37] <JontheEchidna> snele: btw, I fixed your updater crash from last week, http://tinyurl.com/cx7x2ab
[12:40] <georgelappies_> hi all, there is something seriously wrong with the current kernel and or X in 12.04. I started using 12.04 about a week ago. By default i use the open source radeon driver. but to pinpoint the source of this crash I even installed the AMD proprietery driver.
[12:41] <georgelappies_> for no reason randomly my system will crash to a console like screen either red or flickering colours like those old arcade games when they booted up
[12:41] <georgelappies_> I then have to hard reset the machine and reboot. sometimes during the boot it also happens.
[12:42] <georgelappies_> My specs are: Dell-1558 laptop with i5 and radeon 5450 display
[12:42] <georgelappies_> this never happened with 10.04, 10.10, 11.04 or 11.10
[12:43] <georgelappies_> is there were like a log file or something similar that might give an indication as to why this crash happens?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> georgelappies_,  have you updated your xorg.conf file since switching drivers ?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> georgelappies_,  sudo Xorg -configure
[12:44] <georgelappies_> nope I haven't. I just use the default repos and update as updates becomes available
[12:45] <georgelappies_> ok BluesKaj so I just run those commands?
[12:46] <BluesKaj> using proprietary drivers is iffy since there aren't any updates/upgrades for them in the repos
[12:46] <BluesKaj> georgelappies_,  yeah just, sudo Xorg -configure
[12:47] <georgelappies_> ok , I will remove them again. This issue happened before they were installed as well. I usualy do not like using them either ;)
[12:47] <BluesKaj> well , try the command first , to see if it helps
[12:48] <georgelappies_> george@laptop:~$ sudo Xorg -configure
[12:48] <georgelappies_> [sudo] password for george:
[12:48] <georgelappies_> Fatal server error:
[12:48] <georgelappies_> Server is already active for display 0
[12:48] <georgelappies_>         If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[12:48] <georgelappies_>         and start again.
[12:48] <georgelappies_> Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
[12:48] <georgelappies_>          at http://wiki.x.org
[12:48] <georgelappies_>  for help.
[12:48] <georgelappies_>  ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log
[12:48] <georgelappies_> george@laptop:~$
[12:49] <georgelappies_> thats the output of the command?!? - Sorry for the multi line paste
[12:49] <georgelappies_> do I need to run the command from nit 3?
[12:49] <georgelappies_> init soz
[12:49] <yofel> if you're looking for logs, they're in /var/log/ - check Xorg.0.log.old (from the previous session if that crashed) and kern.log
[12:50] <yofel> we don't use init, just stop kdm
[12:50] <yofel> er, as in, RL3 isn't anything special these days
[12:50] <BluesKaj> oops , I should have mentioned , drop to a tty , ,ctrl+alt+F1 , sudo service kdm stop , then sudo Xorg -configure , then, sudo service kdm start
[12:51] <BluesKaj> georgelappies_, ^
[12:54] <georgelappies_> wow the kernel does a lot of stuff within one second :)
[12:57] <georgelappies_> unfortunatly the kern.log didn't write anything about the crash... I recall many moons ago using something called dmesg? does that work in ubuntu and if so, how?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> dmesg is ok , but it will have more info than you need /var/log is easier to pinpoint the problem
[13:04] <georgelappies> running the Xorg -configure exist with error 2. let me wipe the ati drivers. the command is: sudo apt-get purge fglrx* right?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> no need to purge , just remove , then look in kmeny>apps>system>additional drivers , if any choose the recommended one
[13:07] <BluesKaj> kmenu
[13:08] <georgelappies> ok, shot need to reboot brb
[13:17] <BluesKaj> BBL , errands
[13:19] <georgelappies> ok well, back to built in kernel driver for the display, need to see if that crash happens again.
[13:42] <snele> JontheEchidna: thanks. you are doing amazing work :)
[13:42] <snele>  i'll give my best to crash it again and send you another backtrace :P
[13:44] <snele> just joking, of course :)
[13:57] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[13:57] <kamilnadeem> Have just installed Kubuntu 12.04 Beta 2 :-)
[13:57] <kamilnadeem> Looks good
[13:58] <kamilnadeem> there is one problem/bug that has persisted with 12.04 and it is related to the installer
[13:59] <kamilnadeem> when  the installation is going on and the installer is downloading updates or language packs, there is no way to stop this
[13:59] <kamilnadeem> the cancel button doesn't work '
[14:00] <kamilnadeem> now in country where internet speed is slow(like mine=India speed 55-60kbps) and to wait for the installer to download all the updates and stuff takes a lot of time
[14:04] <kamilnadeem> brb*
[16:29] <afiestas_> apachelogger: turron and wine
[16:37] <ScottK> If anyone cares about basket, it looks like it needs a manual ~really version merge from Debian.
[16:37] <ScottK> (badly)
[17:07] <JontheEchidna> snele: :P
[17:08] <JontheEchidna> I'm planning a 1.3.1 release for tomorrow, it'll include the fix
[18:06] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepim-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 102 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[18:10] <CIA-42> [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Philip Muškovac * 133 * bin/kgetsource kgetsource shouldn't download a tarball if it's already there
[19:12] <CIA-42> [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Philip Muškovac * 134 * (docbook/kopypackages.1.docbook debian/changelog) Add manpage for kopypackages
[19:19] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtruby] Philip Muškovac * 21 * debian/changelog New upstream release
[19:21] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/perlqt] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/changelog New upstream release
[19:28] <DWonderly> tazz: ping
[19:28] <tazz> hey DWonderly
[19:29] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/pykde4] Philip Muškovac * 27 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[19:34] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeadmin] Philip Muškovac * 147 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[19:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ping
[19:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: do you happen to have a Android Development environment setup ?
[19:40] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeartwork] Philip Muškovac * 136 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[19:40] <rbelem> Riddell, ping
[19:40] <Riddell> hi rbelem
[19:40] <rbelem> :-)
[19:41]  * yofel notes that there's plenty left of 4.8.2
[19:42] <rbelem> Riddell, i notice that there is kde-workspace 4.8.2 pkg in ninjas, should i migrate the kwin active changes to it?
[19:43] <Riddell> rbelem: are the changes ready?
[19:43] <rbelem> Riddell, yup :-)
[19:43] <Riddell> go for it then
[19:43] <rbelem> nice :-)
[19:44] <rbelem> Riddell, there is one more patch that is active only
[19:44] <rbelem> Riddell, it enables a different screenlocker
[19:44] <Riddell> rbelem: a patch to kde-workspace?
[19:44] <rbelem> Riddell, what should we do?
[19:44] <rbelem> Riddell, yup
[19:45] <rbelem> Riddell, i tried to build twice the kde-workspace do i have no idea how to do that
[19:46] <Riddell> add your changes to the 4.8.2 kde-workspace in ninjas and upload there
[19:46] <rbelem> oki
[19:46] <yofel> can you adjust the patch so that it needs a cmake option to be enabled?
[19:49] <rbelem> yofel, the patch completely replaces the desktop screenlock implementation
[19:50] <yofel> well, can you then wrap the 2 variants in an #ifdef?
[19:51] <rbelem> yofel, i can
[19:51] <yofel> then just pass -D... to cmake to switch between them
[19:51] <rbelem> yofel, good idea :-D
[19:51] <rbelem> yofel, i didnt thought in this way
[19:54] <DWonderly> Riddell: ping
[19:57] <Riddell> hi DWonderly
[19:57] <DWonderly> Hey Riddell, do get a Developer account with KDE, I apply via identity.kde right?
[19:58] <Riddell> you'll need an identity.kde account
[19:58] <Riddell> and I think it's ask sysadmin next
[19:58] <Riddell> but I don't know, it'll be on techbase.kde.org
[19:58] <yofel> there was an apply button there IIRC
[19:58] <DWonderly> I'm setting up my identity account.
[19:58]  * yofel tries to remember how he applied
[20:00] <yofel> ... and fails -.-
[20:01] <DWonderly> lol
[20:01] <shadeslayer> you apply via i.k.o iirc
[20:01] <yofel> I had to file a sysadmin request later to get website editing permissions
[20:01]  * BluesKaj has too many IDs to track ...no need for anymore
[20:01] <yofel> and now I can't remember what I had to do before that
[20:03] <DWonderly> I'll try it that way LOL
[20:03] <yofel> you'll need an identity account anyway, so start with that
[20:05] <DWonderly> Riddell: Do you support my application?
[20:05] <DWonderly> :P
[20:05] <wendar> shadeslayer: ping?
[20:05] <shadeslayer> wendar: ohai
[20:06] <wendar> shadeslayer: so, I got quite far, but it's hung in the middle of the linux boot sequence
[20:06] <shadeslayer> ah
[20:06] <shadeslayer> wendar: first boot?
[20:07] <wendar> aye
[20:07] <wendar> "Filesystem at /dev/mmcblk0p7 is mounted on /; on-line resizing required"
[20:07] <shadeslayer> It should say "Resizing partition foobar"
[20:07] <shadeslayer> yes
[20:07] <shadeslayer> wendar: it's expanding to fill the entire 16GB's
[20:07] <shadeslayer> it'll take some time
[20:07] <shadeslayer> about 25 minutes or so I think
[20:07] <wendar> shadeslayer: okay, cool, I'll leave it sitting off to the side
[20:07] <shadeslayer> :)
[20:08] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdemultimedia] Philip Muškovac * 150 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:09] <shadeslayer> I kinda broke mine last night :P ( Managed to boot the kernel but the initramfs was foobared causing android to boot, but the installed android binaries are only compatible with 2.6.39, causing extreme system brokeness, it also somehow managed to wipe my recovery partition )
[20:09] <DWonderly> Riddell: What's your identity. user?
[20:10] <shadeslayer> Now since my su binary segfaults, I have no root to flash the correct kernelblob
[20:10] <wendar> shadeslayer: ah, bummer :(
[20:10]  * shadeslayer needs to build a new su, but has no Android SDK installed
[20:10] <shadeslayer> wendar: I think I know how to fix it,just need to build a new su
[20:11] <shadeslayer> specifically this one : http://www.paulburton.eu/git/?p=tf101/platform/system/su.git;a=summary
[20:11] <wendar> shadeslayer: makes sense
[20:12] <DWonderly> anyone else want to support my KDE Devel request? :D
[20:12] <shadeslayer> yeah, I can only hope it works
[20:14] <DWonderly> Okay, applied
[20:14] <yofel> hm, do I need an FFE when re-enabling a binary package? (granatier)
[20:15] <wendar> shadeslayer: I guess you've already got CWM installed, so you might be able to install the stock asus firmware.
[20:15] <shadeslayer> wendar: that's the entire problem, CWM got wiped
[20:15] <shadeslayer> no idea how
[20:15] <wendar> shadeslayer: blurg
[20:16] <shadeslayer> yeah :(
[20:16] <shadeslayer> I made sure the kernelblob was correct, no idea how/why it wiped my CWM
[20:22] <wendar> shadeslayer: yeah, it shouldn't touch the recovery partition
[20:23] <shadeslayer> yeah, like I said, no idea
[20:23] <wendar> shadeslayer: would it help if I sent you my boot.img and recovery.img?
[20:23] <wendar> (http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-backup-your-android-phones-boot-recovery-and-system-partition-images/)
[20:23] <shadeslayer> not really :D
[20:23] <shadeslayer> the biggest issue is no root
[20:26] <wendar> shadeslayer: so, I've got an X cursor now
[20:26] <shadeslayer> ah yep
[20:27] <shadeslayer> wendar: reboot by holding the power button and volume down button
[20:27] <wendar> shadeslayer: doesn't move, but that's progress
[20:27] <shadeslayer> when it boots, it'll start oem-config
[20:27] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegames] Philip Muškovac * 151 * debian/ (changelog control) * New upstream release * Enable granatier package again now that libopenal-dev is in the build-depends
[20:28] <shadeslayer> wendar: I'd also suggest connecting it to your PC now, you'll need to adb shell into it and bring up onboard
[20:28] <yofel> ScottK: do I need an FFe for that? ^
[20:28] <wendar> shadeslayer: ok, doing now...
[20:29] <shadeslayer> uhh
[20:29] <shadeslayer> yofel: sec
[20:29]  * shadeslayer thought that openal was enabled for 4.8.1
[20:29] <shadeslayer> yus
[20:29] <yofel> it was, but granatier was commented out in control, so wasn't actually built
[20:29] <shadeslayer> yofel: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegames/4:4.8.1-0ubuntu2 <
[20:30] <shadeslayer> uhh I thought granatier was commented out because of other reasons
[20:30] <yofel> well, built, but not shipped
[20:30]  * shadeslayer looks at changelog
[20:30] <yofel> nope, it depended n openal
[20:30] <yofel> *on
[20:31] <shadeslayer> yes, and I saw it that time, but I left it disabled because I found another reason as to why it was disabled
[20:31] <yofel> ah, which is?
[20:31] <shadeslayer> hmmm
[20:31] <shadeslayer> yofel: I don't remember >.>
[20:31] <shadeslayer> looking at changelogs it looks like because of openal
[20:31] <shadeslayer> but I distinctly remember other reasons for disabling granatier
[20:32] <yofel> that's the only one I can remember, let's see if someone else remembers something
[20:33] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdenetwork] Philip Muškovac * 170 * debian/ (changelog control libkopete4.symbols) * New upstream release - add new symbol to libkopete4.symbols
[20:34] <wendar> shadeslayer: oem-config is problematic without a keyboard...
[20:35] <shadeslayer> wendar: yeah like I said, you need onboard :D
[20:35] <shadeslayer> wendar: have you connected the TF to your PC?
[20:35] <wendar> yup, it's connected
[20:35] <shadeslayer> and do you have adb installed?
[20:35] <wendar> yup, I'm in adb shell now
[20:36] <shadeslayer> wendar: export DISPLAY=:0
[20:36] <shadeslayer> onboard
[20:36] <wendar> beauty
[20:36] <shadeslayer> ;0
[20:36] <shadeslayer> s/0/)/
[20:36] <kubotu> shadeslayer meant: ";)"
[20:41] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdeplasma-addons] Philip Muškovac * 196 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release
[20:46] <rbelem> Riddell, could you borrow me that ec2? :-D
[20:47] <shadeslayer> night everyone
[20:47] <rbelem> shadeslayer, night :-)
[20:52] <rbelem> Riddell, hum... workspace 4.8.2 needs other backporting
[20:53] <rbelem> Riddell, i will not need ec2 till backport the patch
[21:04] <Riddell> rbelem<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:49] <DWonderly> Riddell: I applied and I hope you don't mind but, I used your name as in support of my getting the account.
[23:50] <DWonderly> Riddell: RE: KDE
[23:50] <DWonderly> afiestas: You coming to UDS again?
[23:50] <afiestas> DWonderly: yes !
[23:51] <DWonderly> afiestas: WHOOT!
[23:51] <DWonderly> afiestas: I'll be there again too. Should be fun to see a new Venue in the US
[23:51] <DWonderly> I didn't go to Dallas.


[00:15] <cribbageSTARSHIP> hey everyone. does anyone know of a program or website that will create a samba .conf file?
[00:20] <Patrickdk> yes, vi
[00:25] <cribbageSTARSHIP> Patrickdk: ahaha. I prefer nano. Anyhow, it has been over a year since I touched samba. My old server nuked and I cant remember how I set up my samba before. My wife just had major surgery so Im taking care of her and cant really concentrate. I guess I was just hoping to tke a shortcut
[00:25] <Patrickdk> don't know of any
[00:35] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: back in the day, suse's yast did a good job creating those configs
[00:35] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: and back in the day, samba distributed SWAT, which did a poor job creating those configs, but it did it, hehe
[00:36] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: so is there anything?
[00:36] <sarnold> under no circumstance should SWAT be left enabled on a system that's publicly accessible but for a quick reconfigure...
[00:36] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: suse's yast feels like your best bet.
[00:37] <sarnold> .. you coul probably throw it in a VM and use it real quick like..
[00:37] <sarnold> .. and copy the configuration over, once it is generated. I'd bet it would mostly work.
[00:37] <sarnold> but it might take longer than reading the docs and doing the config by hand
[00:38] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: ya probably. Thanks anyhow
[00:43] <tsukasa_> is something screwy going on with apt right now?
[00:43] <tsukasa_> hash mismatch
[00:45] <sarnold> tsukasa_: a few thoughts, first, are you using apt-cacher-ng? I've had hash mismatches with it before ..
[00:45] <tsukasa_> sarnold: it's the linode mirror, was just wondering if it's an upstream issue or not
[00:46] <sarnold> tsukasa_: with the 15.04 release today, perhaps the mirror you were using was in the middle of an update and had out-of-sync data; if it doesn't go away in five or ten minutes, please do report in #ubuntu-mirrors
[00:46] <sarnold> .. they can sometimes re-poke specific mirrors to resync
[00:49] <tsukas___> sarnold: sorry internet dropped. yeah i'll do that. it's been this way for the last 2.5 hours
[00:50] <sarnold> tsukas___: ugh yeah that's too long; another option if it is under linode control is to ask in #linode on irc.oftc.net
[00:51] <tsukas___> i'll check that out
[03:05] <cribbageSTARSHIP> Can someone please help me with my samba config file? I've created it and can see my shares, but for some reason cannot edit anything, create anything, or delete anything. http://pastebin.com/KAvTE3DL
[03:07] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: do you have any errors in the log file?
[03:08] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: can the user running samba write to the selected log file?
[03:08] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: nothing came up in testparm
[03:08] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: the cranky old guy in me wonders about the space and ' characters in the share names..
[03:09] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: ok ill stop the service change it and try again
[03:11] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: i changed them to [will] [amy] [guest]. no dice i still cannot create edit or delete
[03:12] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: dang.
[03:12] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: sorry, if there's nothing in the logs i'm out of ideas
[03:12] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: do i have to give samba permission itself?
[03:12] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: I can't recall, it's been ages since I've touched it
[03:15] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: how much damage would I do if I "sudo chmod 0777 -R /home" and "sudo chmod 0777 -R /media"?
[03:15] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: too much :)
[03:16] <sarnold> cribbageSTARSHIP: sorry, gotta run, good luck
[03:16] <cribbageSTARSHIP> sarnold: thaks!
[08:09] <xperia> hi all. i am trying to compile bind9 dns server from sources. after downloading the sources using apt-get sources and instaaling the new bind9 package however i can not start it. can anybody tell me the needed steps to recreate bind9 on a ubuntu server? i could no where find any helpfull infos related to this on the internet.
[08:11] <faust> xperia: 1) why you need to build it from sources? 2) what does it mean that it does not start? 3) how did you build it?
[08:13] <xperia> faust: after installing it i tried "sudo service bind9 start" but got the error message "bind9: unrecognized service"
[08:13] <xperia> i need to patch bind9 to have more functionality like GeoDNS and such stuff!
[08:14] <faust> xperia: I guess that the file "/etc/init.d/bind9" does not exists
[08:14] <faust> how did you built/installed it?
[08:18] <xperia> faust: well i did use the ubuntu provided way with "apt-get sources bind9" "apt-get build-dep bind9" "./configure" "make" "sudo checkinstall" "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[08:18] <xperia> as you wrote however this does not install the /etc/intit.d files realted to this package. asking me now  how this can be achieved
[08:20] <faust> ./configure+make is not "debian-way" really
[08:21] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:22] <faust> xperia: you should use "fakeroot debian/rules binary"
[08:23] <faust> I mena
[08:23] <xperia> faust: ahhh this does the magic then okey will try it.
[08:23] <OpenTokix> xperia: Or you can use a modern dns-server like powerdns
[08:23] <faust> apt-get source bind9; apt-get build-dep bind9; cd bind9-.../; fakeroot debian/rules binary; cd ../; dpkg -i ...
[08:27] <xperia> OpenTokix: Thanks a lot for the Tip. Will look into it additional now too. I do agree that the People developing Bind are a little stubborn in my Opinion. Asked them to add some new Feature for a much more reliable and optimized Web Hosting Service that are needed but they refuse to improve it.
[08:40] <OpenTokix> xperia: the thing is that bind is _very_ _very_ fast, and if you have very heavy dns-load, there isnt much of an option. - But if your load is less - you can do more in each request.
[08:41] <OpenTokix> xperia: heavy dns-load is, requests in the 100k+/minute rates
[08:43] <faust> or much less requests on small/cheap resources
[08:44] <xperia> OpenTokix: hmm okey i understand that Load handling is a issues for a DNS Server but in my Opinion with such a load you will need to have a total different Server Topic Architecture. Handling such Loads with only one DNS Server in one Location i will never do or recommend.
[08:44] <xperia> and exactly here actually bind9 fails.
[08:47] <OpenTokix> xperia: If you are handling millions, 100k/s/server is not unresonable
[08:48] <OpenTokix> s/s/m/
[08:48] <faust> unless you want to buy hundreds of servers just to use them as DNS...I cannot imagine how many server you will need to run apache
[08:49] <faust> :P
[08:49] <OpenTokix> I ran a shop with 12k/req/min/dns - Ran it on two old machines - handling it just fine with bind9
[08:49] <OpenTokix> That was for 3 billion requests/day
[08:49] <OpenTokix> for the web-appliction
[08:51] <xperia> OpenTokix: wooow congrats on this stats. i just maked the experience that per recently you need to have several DNS Servers around the Globe Running. So having just one DNS Server in one Location is no Option for me even if it handle requests much more efficient.
[08:52] <OpenTokix> xperia: There is a huge difference between what you read on stackoverflow and webscale node.js-idiots - and real actual experience.
[08:53] <faust> xperia: that is just amazon trying to sell more servers
[08:53] <OpenTokix> xperia: What are you building? DNS-servers for yoru site or are you actually buillding a multicast resolver, like googles <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS> ?
[08:53] <OpenTokix> or like opendns?
[08:54] <OpenTokix> That is two different problems all together
[08:54] <faust> inb4: I'm sysadmin of A-ROOT
[08:54] <faust> :P
[08:54] <OpenTokix> =)
[08:55] <faust> (just to be clear: it was a joke)
[08:55] <OpenTokix> What I am saying is, if you build it for yoru site - don't overcomplicate things.
[08:55] <xperia> hmmm not sure about this. look if you want customers from all around the world visiting your Server as a example from Asia while you are in Europe then having a dns server including web hosting running there is beneficiary
[08:55] <xperia> its just my experience
[08:55] <OpenTokix> xperia: yes, but your clients will very seldom hit your dns-server
[08:55] <OpenTokix> but their own isp-resolver that have your named cached
[08:56] <OpenTokix> Like my site
[08:56] <OpenTokix> ~3 billion requests/day - I had a 5 minute ttl (lowest alloweD) - and STILL I got only 24k/hits/minute
[08:56] <OpenTokix> Thats 1/75th of the actual hits on my site
[08:57] <OpenTokix> With a 5 minute ttl, - And I assume you will run a lot higher ttl than 5 minutes.
[08:57] <xperia> wooowww impresive. i do have also a 5TTL
[08:57] <OpenTokix> So I would say again: Do not overcomplicate things
[08:58] <OpenTokix> And if you are seeing the dns-resolvation of your site is the problem - Look into a DNS-provider, that has built it (They are expensive over one million/req/month) - but it is still cheaper than building your own global dns-infrastructure with multicast
[08:58] <OpenTokix> xperia: I would start by increasing that to atleast 30 minutes
[08:58] <OpenTokix> unless you use the DNS for primary/backup-site failover?
[09:00] <xperia> OpenTokix: well okey i see that one dns can do the job but at least you will want to have a second dns server at least for emergency and load balancing or not ? yes here it beginns also. with such a load i will get very nervous about primary/backup site Failover. even with 5TTL the dns will still serve the dead IP. I just dont like imperfect solutions architecture.
[09:01] <OpenTokix> xperia: yes, you need two dns-servers
[09:02] <OpenTokix> xperia: you do not load balance two servers behind a ip, you have one dns-server on one ip  and another on a another ip - your clients handle the "load balancing" themselfs
[09:02] <OpenTokix> ie. if server1 dont anawer, they will talk to server1
[09:02] <OpenTokix> ie. if server1 dont anawer, they will talk to server2
[09:05] <xperia> OpenTokix: ahh yeah i also thinked about this solution but the problem here is that at the end you will have Visitors from Asia landing on Webservers located in Europe and Visitors in Europe landing on Webservers in Asia. My Actual Situation at the moment. Very Bad.
[09:05] <xperia> You will want to send the Visitors from Europe to WebServers in Europe and Asian Visitors to Asian Weservers all this Functionallity is missing in Bind9. No GeoDNS no FailOver ... Realy Bad.
[09:06] <OpenTokix> xperia: yes, that is super easy to do in powerdns
[09:06] <OpenTokix> xperia: and a hassle in bind9 =)
[09:06] <OpenTokix> I did that in powerdns
[09:06] <OpenTokix> How much traffic do you have?
[09:09] <xperia> OpenTokix: good that we agree :-) i will just patch now bind9 with geodns functionallity code from here http://www.caraytech.com/geodns/ with the howto steps from faust. it compiled fine actually.
[09:09] <OpenTokix> good luck
[09:09] <faust> that is not a really "clean" build
[09:09] <faust> but it will work
[09:09] <faust> you should probably update versions and dep
[09:10] <faust> but if you are not going to redistribute it you may not worry
[09:10] <xperia> OpenTokix: i dont have such a big traffic like you but i have around 100'000 Hits per Day from all around the World.
[10:07] <xperia> OpenTokix: faust: ohh woow i just studied the BIND9 Sources and was very surprised to see that BIND9 has allready GEO IP Code in it. Did you know that no Patching actually is needed anymore to have GEO IP in BIND9, i mysefl was not aware of it.
[10:07] <xperia> see this link here => https://kb.isc.org/article/AA-01149/0/Using-the-GeoIP-Features-in-BIND-9.10.html
[10:11] <xperia> i do think however that the provided ubuntu packages are build without geoip functionallity as this need to be enabled explicit. joining #bind9
[10:12] <xperia> mean #bind
[10:46] <xperia> the installed BIND9 Package on the Ubuntu Server from the default Package Repo has by default enabled GEO IP. I am saved he he he. Well Done People. No need for Recompile for me just reconfiguting of Bind is needed. mmmmhh feels great !
[10:54] <OpenTokix> xperia: amazing - I dont run any dns:es anymore - but thanks for info
[11:54] <Tsterxer> Hi
[11:54] <Tsterxer> I struggle install ubuntu server..
[11:55] <Tsterxer> Is it correct to first setup and then intall?
[11:55] <Tsterxer> install*
[14:40] <Atlas1337> I need help forwarding a port
[14:41] <OpenTokix> Fwd: Port of Amsterdam.pdf
[14:42] <Atlas1337> forwarding a port with iptables
[15:04] <pmatulis> OpenTokix: have you done any research yet?
[15:05] <pmatulis> woops, meant for Atlas1337
[15:06] <Atlas1337> I uninstalled ubuntu
[15:35] <Guest36029> can anyone ... help me how to set permission for apache
[15:41] <pmatulis> Guest36029: have you done any research yet?
[17:45] <darius93> do anyone know why i get an error when trying to use a kickstart file?  IPv6 is somehow not working on Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS. I'm trying to lease a IPv6 address with "dhclient -6 -v" and getting this error: "Can't set SO_REUSEPORT option on dhcp socket: Protocol not available"
[21:57] <sarnold> halvors: interesting.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/+bug/1184099
[21:58] <halvors> sarnold: I've seen that. But nothing about how to fix this issue...
[21:58] <halvors> sarnold: Sounds to me like IPv6 is non existing on my system somehow :(
[22:00] <sarnold> much more informative https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1005814
[22:07] <halvors> Nobody knows how to correct this issue?
[22:08] <sarnold> halvors: you may have some success ifyou can restrict it to binding to a specific interface
[22:13] <halvors> sarnold: Tried "dhclient -6 eth0" doesn't help :(


[00:17] <dariball> can someone tell me where I can find the sources for the "pi-kernel" snap? core18 and pi-gadget are on github, but cannot find pi-kernel there
[00:22] <cjwatson> dariball: I'm not an expert here but https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-snaps/+git/kernel-snaps-uc20/+ref/pi seems to be set up to build that snap
[00:23] <cjwatson> And I guess the "master" branch there is the actual kernel code that gets built; the "pi" branch seems to just be the snapcraft.yaml
[00:24] <cjwatson> oh, or maybe just some Makefiles ... I'm out of my depth at this point
[00:27] <tianon> I have no idea how releases for the "legacy" branch of snapcraft are managed (appears to be manually backported to xenial and bionic uploads?) but it'd probably be good to get https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3429 into a release soonish ("plugin: python" is unusable on "base: core" without it /o\)
[00:27] <mup> PR snapcraft#3429: plugins: Pin pip to supported versions <Created by philroche> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3429>
[00:29] <tianon> (I manually applied that patch locally to fix my own dev environment, but I imagine my GitHub Actions are probably gonna fail too)
[00:32] <dariball> cjwatson: mmmh more than I found, but can't really find the kernel sources there, just makefile using apt & snapcraft.yamls ... but at least a point to start, thanks
[02:20] <sbeattie> cjwatson, dariball: I'm no expert in the kernel snaps, but my understanding is that is repackaging the linux-raspi (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-raspi2) archive package; the source tree would be https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux-raspi/+git/focal?h=master though it seems master is behind what's in the archive (though the appropriate tag is on master-next)
[06:50] <mborzecki> morning
[07:24] <mborzecki> mvo: hey
[07:35] <mvo> good morning mborzecki
[07:59] <mborzecki> mvo: snapd apaprently ftbfs on rawhide, looking into it
[08:00] <mborzecki> pstolowski: hey
[08:00] <pstolowski> morning
[08:31] <mborzecki> hm so go modules are for real this time when 1.16 gets released
[08:32] <mborzecki> rawhide already has 1.16beta what broke building snapd
[08:43] <pedronis> mborzecki: let's chat in the standup I suppose
[08:43] <mborzecki> pedronis: for now i'm using GO111MODULE=off which allows the build to complete successfuly, i'm not aware of plans to remove the switch (yet)
[08:48] <mup> PR snapd#9682 closed: data: fix case when $PATH has spaces in snapd.sh.in <Created by ExE-Boss> <Closed by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9682>
[08:50] <pstolowski> pedronis: hi, i've rebased #9853
[08:50] <mup> PR #9853: api: validate snaps against validation set assert from the store <Needs Samuele review> <validation-sets :white_check_mark:> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9853>
[08:51] <pedronis> pstolowski: thx, I saw that, I put it in my queue
[08:51] <pstolowski> ty
[08:58] <mup> PR snapd#9888 opened: data/env/snapd: use quoting in case PATH contains spaces <Simple 😃> <Created by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9888>
[09:07] <mborzecki> any clue who creates /run/netns? is it lxd?
[09:08] <mup> PR snapd#9830 closed: Clarify error message <⛔ Blocked> <Created by SeanColombo> <Closed by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9830>
[09:15] <mborzecki> heh: [43451.411268] audit: type=1400 audit(1612257161.339:593): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/lib/snapd/snap-confine" name="/proc/457397/attr/apparmor/current" pid=457397 comm="snap-confine" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
[09:16] <mborzecki> but the profile has: `@{PROC}/[0-9]*/attr/{,apparmor/}current r,`
[10:03] <mup> PR snapd#9766 closed: interfaces/fwupd: allow any distros to access fw files via fwupd <Created by woodrow-shen> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9766>
[10:03] <pstolowski> pedronis: does revision 0 in asserts have any meaning anywhere? i'm wondering wrt RevisionNotKnown = -1, and if for sequences we should have an equivalent SequenceNotKnown = -1, or simply > 0 and anything <=0 is unset
[10:09] <pedronis> pstolowski: revision 0 is a valid revision for assertions, it's the default value
[10:10] <pedronis> pstolowski: sequences start at 1 though
[10:10] <pstolowski> pedronis: i see, great, thanks
[10:10] <mborzecki> mvo: can you take a look at https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9878 ? should be quite trivial
[10:10] <mup> PR #9878: tests/core/uc20-recovery: move recover mode helpers to generic testslib script <Simple 😃> <UC20> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9878>
[10:11] <pedronis> pstolowski: it's a bit confusing because snap revision start at 1 as well, otoh the reason for this default is that some assertions should never get a 2nd revision, so having revision: 1 in them would be a bit misleading
[10:12] <pstolowski> got it
[10:36] <pedronis> mvo: I reviewed the dtbs PRs
[10:41] <mvo> pedronis: \o/
[10:42] <mvo> mborzecki: sure, looking (was in meetings, sorry)
[10:45] <mborzecki> mvo: also, i think we can land https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9883 the failures are unrelated
[10:45] <mup> PR #9883: cmd/snap-preseed: initialize snap.SanitizePlugsSlots for gadget in seeds <Bug> <Preseeding 🍞> <Squash-merge> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9883>
[10:45] <mborzecki> (needs your superpowers tho)
[10:46] <mvo> mborzecki: failures are unrelated? or shall I check?
[10:46] <mborzecki> mvo: unrelated, tests/unit/go failed on gpg, snap-mgmt on fedora failed in restore :/
[10:47] <mborzecki> same for sid
[10:48] <mup> PR snapd#9878 closed: tests/core/uc20-recovery: move recover mode helpers to generic testslib script <Simple 😃> <UC20> <Created by anonymouse64> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9878>
[10:51] <mvo> mborzecki: thanks, merged and cherry-picked
[10:52] <mborzecki> and our snap-mgmt --purge is spotty, not sure how to fix that nicely, if user services are running, we'll miss them when cleaning up
[10:52] <mborzecki> (that's what happened in the failed snap-mgmt spread test)
[10:53] <ogra> hmm, wasnt UC20 supposed to hold back the starting of snaps until console-conf is done ?
[10:53] <mup> PR snapd#9883 closed: cmd/snap-preseed: initialize snap.SanitizePlugsSlots for gadget in seeds <Bug> <Preseeding 🍞> <Squash-merge> <Created by stolowski> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9883>
[10:54] <ogra> trying to build an RPi kodi appliance image i always end up with the kodi UI without a chance to set up network and user
[10:55] <ogra> (note that kodi runs natively on the GPU, no Mir or anything)
[11:44] <pedronis> ogra: we don't have any feature that blocks services based on console-conf. we do have a feature nowadays to have services that arer not started/enabled by snapd by default, in which case you can use a different service and snapctl to control when they start
[11:46] <ogra> pedronis, i just found that my snap can see /var/lib/snapd/hostfs/var/lib/console-conf/complete without creating denials, so i'll simply check if i'm on core and let the service sleep until the file appears from a wrapper
[11:47] <ogra> but i thougth holding back snap startup after console-conf was theer in UC18 ... that's why i was surprised to have it just start
[11:48] <ogra> (though i admittedly only played with Mir in UC1😎
[11:48] <ogra> tsk
[11:48] <pedronis> I'm not aware of such a feature
[11:48] <ogra> *UC18
[11:48] <ogra> k, then perhaps something was slow back in my testing 🙂
[11:49] <ogra> (and i was just lucky or so)
[11:49] <pedronis> I'm surprised that you don't get a denial for that file though
[11:50] <ogra>  if [ -e "/var/lib/snapd/hostfs/var/lib/console-conf/completes" ]; then echo "console-conf done !"; fi
[11:50] <ogra> from within "snap run --shell ..." ... journal stays quiet
[11:51] <ogra> i can *not* ls the dir without denial ... seems only thet specific filenale is allowed
[11:51] <ogra> *that
[11:51] <ogra> *filemane
[11:51] <ogra> *GOD !
[11:52]  * ogra stamps foot about his typing
[12:05] <mup> PR snapcraft#3430 closed: More improvements for using python3.8 from within a snap <Created by kenvandine> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3430>
[12:39] <ogra> bah .. except that on my appliance image console-confi doesnt create the "complete" file anymore !
[13:06] <pedronis> pstolowski: I did a pass on #9853
[13:06] <mup> PR #9853: api: validate snaps against validation set assert from the store <Needs Samuele review> <validation-sets :white_check_mark:> <Created by stolowski> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9853>
[13:06] <pstolowski> pedronis: ty
[13:09] <mup> PR snapd#9887 closed: seed: add LoadEssentialMeta to seed16 and allow all of its implementations to be called multiple times <Created by pedronis> <Merged by pedronis> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9887>
[13:09] <pedronis> pstolowski: mborzecki: thansk for the reviews
[13:09] <mborzecki> yw
[13:56] <jdstrand> mborzecki: that might suggest the profile is using an old cache file or wasn't applied (eg, another one was being used) at the time of access
[13:58] <mborzecki> jdstrand: hm maybe it's something about cache, the problem went away after i restarted the apparmor.service
[13:59] <mup> PR snapd#9545 closed: devicestate: keep log from install-mode on installed system <Run nested> <UC20> <Created by mvo5> <Merged by bboozzoo> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9545>
[14:00] <mborzecki> jdstrand: anyways, i'll try find out under what conditions this happens, also maybe it's something about the setup on my dev box, i haven't seen reports from users with a similar problem
[14:52] <jdstrand> mborzecki: re users> that's good to hear
[14:54] <ijohnson> mvo: I landed #9885 but forgot to squash-merge sorry /o\ do you want me to open a backport pr?
[14:54] <mup> PR #9885: snap/info.go: ignore unknown daemons in SortSnapServices <Bug> <Squash-merge> <⚠ Critical> <Created by anonymouse64> <Merged by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9885>
[14:54] <mup> PR snapd#9885 closed: snap/info.go: ignore unknown daemons in SortSnapServices <Bug> <Squash-merge> <⚠ Critical> <Created by anonymouse64> <Merged by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9885>
[14:55] <ijohnson> mvo: for what it's worth, I just tested cherry-picking the 3 commits from that pr to release/2.49 and they all cleanly applied there
[14:57] <mvo> ijohnson: no problem
[14:57] <ogra> my first UC20 appliance attempt ... : https://people.canonical.com/~ogra/UC20/pi-mediacenter-appliance/
[14:57] <mvo> ijohnson: feel free to cherry-pick/push yourself to the branch but I can do it as well
[14:58] <ogra> (still need an interface that allows /dev/input without Mir/X11 so i can switch kodi to strict mode)
[14:59] <ijohnson> mvo: I don't have permissions to push to the release branches, so maybe you could cherry-pick for me
[15:00] <mvo> ijohnson: sure, will do
[15:05] <mvo> ijohnson: all four commits from https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9885/commits - right?
[15:05] <mup> PR #9885: snap/info.go: ignore unknown daemons in SortSnapServices <Bug> <Squash-merge> <⚠ Critical> <Created by anonymouse64> <Merged by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9885>
[15:06] <ijohnson> mvo: only 3 of them are necessary, e563dd413875a556a9eff6e0276f6ab57a672c16, 88d1e8aa5a00e7071bfc0449ab40b799c0d07da6 and f41ed8094010e74c691f4368aec7d547d286fbff, but the last one is just a typo fix
[15:06] <ijohnson> so up to you if you wanna cherry-pick the typo fix on 2.49
[15:06] <ijohnson> I'd say yes simply because it reduces likelihood of conflicts
[15:06] <mvo> +2
[15:06] <mvo> or +4 even ;)
[15:06] <mvo> anyway, done
[15:08] <zyga> mvo did I hear that core 20 is out?
[15:08] <mvo> zyga: I did!
[15:09] <zyga> hey guys, I worked from the kitchen all day, so I was not on IRC
[15:09] <zyga> (worked from windows laptop)
[15:09] <zyga> congratulations!
[15:09] <zyga> is there any publicity going on as well?
[15:11] <pedronis> zyga: yes, https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-core-20-secures-linux-for-iot
[15:14] <zyga> really nice work!
[15:18] <mvo> zyga: thank you! but congrats to you as well, you helped make this happen :)
[15:18] <zyga> I'm sorry I didn't endure to stay till the end
[15:19] <zyga> I'm looking into some zmk patches for bitbake compatibility, too bad Debian freeze is in effect, I cannot even upload things nwo
[15:19] <zyga> *now
[16:51] <pedronis> actually there were tests for what I mentioned in the SU but the suite was never hooked up :/
[17:18] <ogra> mvo, is there a bug open about the fact that pi-config options do not seem to work at all anymore in UC20 (pre-seeding disable-overscan sets the config but does not change config.txt)
[17:44] <pedronis> ogra: there is a bug,  ijohnson has been looking into it
[17:45] <ogra> perfect, then i dont need to file one 😉
[17:50] <sbeattie> dariball: [I think you dropped when I wrote this yesterday] I'm no expert in the kernel snaps, but my understanding is that is repackaging the linux-raspi (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-raspi2) archive package; the source tree would be https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux-raspi/+git/focal?h=master though it seems master is behind what's in the archive (though the appropriate tag is on master-next)
[17:50] <sbeattie> bah, actually https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-raspi (not raspi2)
[18:02] <ijohnson> ogra: pedronis the bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapd/+bug/1909353
[18:02] <mup> Bug #1909353: pi-config not working in UC 20 <snapd:Triaged by pedronis> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1909353>
[18:02] <ijohnson> I was hoping to get a little bit more free time and propose what I think is a more useful fix to get the pi gadget fixed instead of hacking in snapd, but alas I have not gotten my fix to work on 32-bit armhf yet, mainly due to no time to test it out yet
[18:04] <ogra> thx !
[18:05]  * ogra hits "me too"
[21:46] <mup> PR snapd#9889 opened: cmd/snap-bootstrap/initramfs-mounts: write realistic modeenv for recover+install <Needs Samuele review> <Run nested> <UC20> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9889>
[21:46] <ijohnson> whoops forget to leave lunch mode :-)
[22:36] <mup> PR snapd#9890 opened: misc: little tweaks <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by anonymouse64> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9890>


[04:52] <Guest96> 大家好，我的 mac M1 14.0  下载镜像时超时了，
[04:52] <Guest96> ❯ multipass launch 23.04 -n develop -vvvv
[04:52] <Guest96> [2023-10-08T12:44:25.472] [trace] [client cert store] Verifying cert:
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[04:52] <Guest96> [2023-10-08T12:44:25.754] [trace] [url downloader] Found https://codeload.github.com/canonical/multipass-blueprints/zip/refs/heads/main in cache: true
[04:52] <Guest96> [2023-10-08T12:44:25.761] [debug] [blueprint provider] Loading "anbox-cloud-appliance" v1
[04:52] <Guest96> [2023-10-08T12:44:25.762] [debug] [blueprint provider] Loading "charm-dev" v1
[04:52] <Guest96> [2023-10-08T12:44:25.763] [debug] [blueprint provider] Loading "docker" v1
[04:53] <Guest96> NTItN2E1ZS00OTBhLTlmN2YtNGM0NWVjMzhmOTU4MFkwEwYHKoZIzj0CAQYIKoZI
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[04:53] <Guest96> e6oPa5dgQCiawEXxIN1uKg==
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[04:53] <Guest96> [2023-10-08T12:44:28.469] [trace] [client cert store] Verifying cert:
[04:53] <Guest96> -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
[04:53] <Guest96> MIIBjDCCATECBFwJtCowCgYIKoZIzj0EAwIwUDELMAkGA1UEBhMCVVMxEjAQBgNV
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[07:24] <koolhead11> hi all
[07:24]  * koolhead11 pokes kim0
[08:35] <ttx> kim0: saw http://cssoss.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/openstack-beginners-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04-natt-narhwal/ ?
[08:52] <kim0> ttx: hey .. yeah sure .. I worked with css guys to get that written
[08:52] <kim0> we're trying to get it converted to sphinx now, such that it can be integrated into wiki.u.c
[08:53] <ttx> oh, ok , that's the opensdtack book you were talking abot
[08:53] <kim0> yeah
[08:53] <ttx> I missed that session unfortunately :)
[08:53] <kim0> hehe :)
[08:53] <ttx> sounds nicely-centered around the ubuntu "use case" for openstack.
[08:54] <kim0> yes indeed .. and should grow with any Ubuntu specific details
[08:54] <flaccid> i guess its now going to be openstack vs. cloudstack
[08:54] <flaccid> i feel bad for euca but hey they failed..
[09:06] <koolhead11> kim0, :P
[09:06] <kim0> koolhead11: hey man
[09:06] <koolhead11> kim0, feels good!! :D
[09:06] <kim0> koolhead11: haha what's up
[09:07] <koolhead11> kim0, notthing much trying to scale up my learning curve!! :D
[09:07] <kim0> koolhead11: did you do anything interesting lately
[09:08] <koolhead11> not on the euca part :(
[09:08] <kim0> koolhead11: yeah np .. on which part
[09:09] <koolhead11> few other things in plate :)
[09:09] <koolhead11> hey TeTeT
[09:09] <kim0> cool :)
[09:10] <TeTeT> hi koolhead11
[09:10] <kim0> koolhead11: let me know when you plan on attacking to euca + Ensemble part :)
[09:10] <koolhead11> next week i have to
[09:11] <kim0> koolhead11: I like, have to :) hehe
[09:12] <koolhead11> :P
[19:01] <kim0> - Ensemble community meeting begining -
[19:01] <kim0> Morning afternoon and evening everyone o/
[19:01] <kim0> Let's quickly go through happening in the Ensemble scene this week
[19:01] <kim0> who can volunteer to kick us started
[19:02] <niemeyer> Hello everyone!
[19:03] <niemeyer> kim0: So, let us.. what's hot in the Ensemble scene?
[19:03] <niemeyer> s/let us/tell us
[19:03] <kim0> niemeyer: I hear a mongo formula is in the works ?
[19:03] <kim0> who can tell us more about that please
[19:04] <niemeyer> kim0: It is indeed, hazmat has been pushing forward a nice Ensemble formula to present at MongoDC
[19:04] <niemeyer> If you are in the area, we highly recommend checking it out.. both due to Ensemble and due to Mongo
[19:04] <kim0> niemeyer: awesome .. is that public somewhere
[19:04] <niemeyer> kim0: hazmat is still working on it
[19:04] <niemeyer> hazmat?
[19:04] <kim0> hazmat: I'd love to check it out
[19:05] <niemeyer> hazmat is probably still sleeping by now.. let's move on
[19:05] <kim0> if hazmat is not here .. we can switch to the very interesting hadoop work negronjl is doing ... can you please tell us more about that
[19:06]  * kim0 hears a drum roll
[19:06] <niemeyer> Yeah, we have some very interesting work taking place around the Orchestra project
[19:06] <negronjl> hi all.
[19:06]  * kim0 waves at negronjl
[19:06] <niemeyer> Orchestra is an on going initiative to have something resembling a IaaS for physical hardware
[19:07] <niemeyer> Oh, I'll hand the mic to negronjl now :)
[19:07] <negronjl> I am currently working with the Orchestra project and we have some interesting puppet recipes that I believe would benefit ensemble.
[19:07] <kim0> negronjl: can you describe what those receipes do today
[19:07] <kim0> and plans for them
[19:07] <negronjl> I am currently working on Hadoop, with the intent on also porting mpi, distcc, etc.
[19:08] <negronjl> It would be very interesting to have a full hadoop ensemble formula that will allow the devops/sysadmin people to quickly and efficiently deploy a cluster in minutes as opposed to hours/days/weeks
[19:08] <kim0> negronjl: so I think hadoop is multiple moving parts right
[19:08] <niemeyer> Sweet
[19:08] <kim0> hdfs
[19:08] <kim0> pig
[19:08] <kim0> ..etc
[19:08] <kim0> are you only interested in one of those
[19:09] <niemeyer> negronjl: Absolutely.. the service-orientation aspect of Ensemble should make it quite comfortable to assemble the different bits in custom ways
[19:09] <niemeyer> negronjl: Looking forward to deploy my first Hadoop cluster with Ensemble!
[19:09] <negronjl> it is and I intend to provide a simple formula for the main parts ( namenode, jobtracker, datanode and tasktracker) as well as convenience formulas for master and slave that will encapsulate all of the work for you
[19:10] <kim0> negronjl: wow that sounds hyper cool!
[19:10] <negronjl> in the horizon we also have gearman and tomcat as well.
[19:10] <kim0> Awesome .. thanks for sharing
[19:10] <negronjl> it would benefit the entire community if, in the future, we have orchestra and ensemble working together with the same recipes/formulas/modules
[19:10] <kim0> negronjl: are those formulas public yet
[19:11] <niemeyer> negronjl: =1
[19:11] <niemeyer> negronjl: +1
[19:11] <negronjl> the orchestra ones are in lp:orchestra-puppet-recipes.  I am currently working on porting those to ensemble but, they are not public yet.
[19:11] <negronjl> soon though :)
[19:11] <kim0> great!
[19:11] <niemeyer> kim0: That's a real drum roll.. ;-)
[19:12] <kim0> negronjl: I would actually be extremely interested in "your experiences" porting a complex puppet module over to ensemble
[19:12] <kim0> I hope once you're done you'd consider sharing your experiences
[19:12] <kim0> awesome stuff
[19:12] <kim0> So .. other than that ..
[19:13] <negronjl> still working on the hadoop one as it is my first but, so far It seems to be a straightforward concept.  It also helps to have niemeyer and gang around to answer my questions :D
[19:13]  * niemeyer waves
[19:13] <kim0> hehe :) yeah a lovely bunch
[19:13] <kim0> cool ..
[19:14] <kim0> niemeyer should be merging some docs soonish about contributing to ensemble if you're new .. you can check out the branch at https://code.launchpad.net/~kim0/ensemble/contribute-formula
[19:14] <kim0> Also .. I'd love to get some feedback on my way of descrining Ensemble
[19:14] <kim0> you can read the message at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ensemble/2011-May/000093.html
[19:14] <kim0> and if you're reading this, and you're not on the mailing list yet .. get on there :)
[19:15] <kim0> niemeyer: I have a question .. would it make sense to write an ensemble formula for Amazon RDS
[19:15] <niemeyer> kim0: That message was awesome, btw
[19:15] <kim0> cool!
[19:15] <niemeyer> kim0: Will read it a few more times and see if I can help you anyhow
[19:17] <kim0> ok, that's mostly all .. if anyone has any comments .. shoot
[19:17] <niemeyer> Yes, any questions on Ensemble, Orchestra, or anything else around it?
[19:18] <niemeyer> Ah, btw.. AWS's Elastic Load Balancer now supports root domains, which is pretty exciting.  Go check it out if you haven't.
[19:18] <kim0> Yeah .. I did see your message
[19:18] <kim0> the way it should have been :)
[19:18] <kim0> ELB that is
[19:19] <kim0> ok guess that's all .. thanks everyone
[19:19] <kim0> special thanks for negronjl .. great work there
[19:20] <kim0> - Ensemble community meeting end -
[19:20] <niemeyer> kim0: Thanks!
[19:20] <niemeyer> Cheers all!
[19:20] <kim0> cheers
[19:20] <niemeyer> We'll be around in #ubuntu-ensemble
[19:22] <hazmat> the mongodb formula is still pretty basic it handles setting up a replica set atm
[19:23] <hazmat> with the new service config work, it can be extended to sharding
[19:23] <kim0> hazmat: thanks for mentioning that
[19:23] <kim0> hazmat: let me know when it's made public :)
[19:23] <kim0> thanks
[19:27] <negronjl> hazmat:  https://launchpad.net/orchestra-puppet-recipes
[19:27] <negronjl> hazmat:  I have a mongo puppet module there that may be of use
[19:27] <negronjl> It's puppet, I know but, the concepts are pretty interchangable
[19:28] <hazmat> negronjl, cool, thanks
[21:16] <sorrell> Hi all, I was wondering, I have a Walrus server and I can't seem to find/mount my RAID controller and I was wondering if anyone knew if it was supported and if so how can I mount it.  The controller is a Dell Perc 5i.  Thanks in advance for any information you can give.


[21:56] <milos> nosrednaekim: Unfortunately the python-gnupgiinterface has no __init__.py ...
[21:56] <nosrednaekim> milos: hey.... uhh... you are supposed to have a python version number before the final file..
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> i.e. .... python2.5/GnuPGInterface
[21:58] <nosrednaekim> also... python is case sensitive
[21:59] <milos> It is weird that python-gnupgiinterface is installed in usr/share/pythonsupport, because that folder is not in sys.path...
[22:00] <RuyalarPrensi> ping me plz
[22:00] <epimeth> !pinf
[22:00] <epimeth> !ping
[22:00] <RuyalarPrensi> !ping
[22:01] <milos> nosrednaekim: the main problem is that no __init__.py is in the python-gnupginterface package.
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> actually, not neccesarily... alot of these do not have __init__'s
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> I was wrong :P
[22:04] <azzco> How do I add icons to a command, like starting a program from alt+f2 pops up an icon..
[22:07] <ross> newbie question: How big should I make my swap partition for a new kubuntu installation?
[22:08] <milos> ross: twice your RAM.
[22:08] <ross> milos: Thanks!
[22:10] <ross_> newbie question: How big should I make my swap partition on a new partition?
[22:10] <ross_> newbie question: How big should I make my swap partition on a new installation--I mean
[22:11] <bascule> ?
[22:12] <milos> ross_: twice your RAM.
[22:12] <milos> unless you have 2GB RAM or more.
[22:12] <ross_> milos: Thank you again--I thought this was a different channel :(
[22:12] <ross_> I 4GB, what then?
[22:13] <milos> And why ask the same question again on a different channel?
[22:13] <JOSE> HOLA MMAGUEVOS
[22:13] <ross_> Its a lot of work setting this thing up, I was looking for more than one opinion
[22:13] <milos> ross_: With 4GB of RAM, you need no swap at all.
[22:14] <JOSE> FOKIUN
[22:15] <JOSE> DO YOU SPEAKING SPANI?
[22:15] <ross_> milos: I'm struggling with whether or not I should put one in as a safety net, or is that complete nonsense?
[22:15] <roberto> !es
[22:16] <crimsun> if you plan to use suspend-to-disk, you must have some disk space set aside.
[22:16] <milos> ross_: It is hard to imagine a software that would eat more than 4GB of RAM on Linux. On Windows its different perhaps.
[22:16] <crimsun> whether that disk space is a swap partition or a swap file, ...
[22:17] <Frederick> folks is there any tool in ubuntu which can edit my mounting points for me so I don't need to write fstab by hand?
[22:17] <ross_> milos: I think my system only sees 3GB though, I'm running ubuntu, and that's what the system tools report.
[22:17] <crimsun> milos: 4 GB for most desktop users is likely adequate.  I know for a fact that 4 GB is utterly inadequate for my workloads.
[22:17] <milos> I have 1.5 GB, run lots of hungry GUI programs for two users, my swap is never used.
[22:18] <ross_> I'm seeing that too, but I'm just trying to error in the right direction, so I don't have to rebuild for a long time (I hope)
[22:18] <milos> ross: Then make a 8GB swap
[22:18] <rmribeiro> !br
[22:19] <ross_> right now, my KDE System Guard reports:  Swap: 39,016 KB used,  3,190,008 KB free
[22:19] <ross_> so it seems like I'm using the swap space a little
[22:19] <ross_> I've got a really big synch process going right now thoug
[22:19] <ross_> trying to backup everything before I wipe it all out
[22:19] <milos> ross: there is always this kind of small usage. It means nothing.
[22:20] <Darlok_Williams> My motherboard has a "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE controller" and I need to install an older IDE hard drive.  But hooking up the hard drive to that PIDE port still doesn't make BIOS recognize the hard drive.  Any ideas?
[22:20] <SSJ_GZ> ross_: Sometimes there's some overspill where a little swap is used even though there's massive amounts of RAM unused.
[22:21] <ross_> So what you're saying is, "if I had no swap space allocated, it would probably just keep it in ram"?
[22:21] <SSJ_GZ> ross_: Very likely.
[22:22] <ross_> I'm just a little gun-shy yet--I wish I had a really rock-solid plan to follow before I pull the trigger and reformat
[22:22] <ross_> maybe it doesn't exist
[22:22] <epimeth> lol
[22:22] <epimeth> it does
[22:22] <epimeth> its called "pull the trigger and reformat" :-)
[22:23] <ross_> epimeth: LOL
[22:23] <milos> ross_: you are over-planning. Over-engineering.
[22:23] <ross_> milos: I'm sure you are right, I could probably do everything I need to do on my HP calculator :
[22:24] <JOSEITO> HOLA
[22:24] <JOSEITO> HABLAN ESAÑOL
[22:24] <ross_> HOLA
[22:24] <SSJ_GZ> ross_: You can always make a swap file later on (without re-partitioning) if it turns out you haven't allocated enough swap.
[22:24] <JOSEITO> HI
[22:24] <JOSEITO>  <SSJ_GZ>
[22:25] <JOSEITO> HI  <SSJ_GZ>  YOU TIENE MSN
[22:25] <ross_> Well, while I'm at it, I'm kind of thinking of using ext3 file format for almost everything else, would you agree with that?
[22:25] <SSJ_GZ> !es > JOSEITO
[22:25] <SSJ_GZ> ross_: I always use ext3, personally.
[22:26] <ross_> I'm not trying to over-engineer, its just that although I'm really impressed with Linux, I just don't know much about Linux
[22:26] <JOSEITO> I NOT SPEAKING INGLES .
[22:26] <ross_> NO HABLA ESANOL
[22:26] <ross_> POQITO
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> SSJ_GZ: hey.... when can I get my hands on that 4.1 VM image? :P
[22:27] <SSJ_GZ> nosrednaekim: Hopefully within the next couple of days - it's a long weekend here :)
[22:27] <nosrednaekim> yes... it is :)
[22:27] <JOSEITO> Y ROSS TIENES MSN
[22:27] <ross_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:28] <ross_> MSN account
[22:28] <SSJ_GZ> nosrednaekim: The base image is now complete (760MB compressed, though! :O)) but needs update-testing and backtrace-generation-testing.
[22:28] <ross_> But I really don't know Spanish
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> SSJ_GZ: any way at all that it could be converted into a native installation?
[22:28] <nash> I'm trying to install 8.10 from a live cd I just burned and it's just stuck there at the startup menu. Any ideas how I can debug this?
[22:28] <ross_> I picked up a little when I worked in Chicago, back in the late 70's
[22:28] <nosrednaekim> ross_: don't feed the troll...
[22:29] <SSJ_GZ> nosrednaekim: Yep - someone actually did this with the original KDE4Daily.  I'll see if I can find the link ...
[22:29] <ross_> nosrednaekim: what do you mean?
[22:29] <ross_> nosrednaekim: has the guy been a pain?
[22:29] <nash> Test memory, check cd, all these things just do nothing except make the hd work hard...
[22:29] <nosrednaekim> ross_: joseito is a troll, someone who just comes on to annoy others (at least thats the way it looks)
[22:30] <JOSEITO> ROSS NOT TIENES HOMAIL.
[22:30] <SSJ_GZ> nosrednaekim: http://tonyducrocq.free.fr/dotclear/index.php?2007/12/03/6-howto-launch-kde4daily-in-a-chroot
[22:30] <ross_> DESPENSIME JOSEITO, NO HABLA ESPANOL
[22:30] <Darlok_Williams> Is my old IDE hard drive compatible with the PIDE slot in my new computer?
[22:30] <nosrednaekim> Darlok_Williams: probably
[22:31] <nosrednaekim> if the cable fits... it is :P
[22:31] <ross_> I believe I have an older IDE drive on a PIDE bus
[22:31] <Darlok_Williams> nosrednaekim: Well, it fits just fine, but BIOS doesn't recognize it.
[22:31] <ross_> The thing I'm not sure about, is how old the drive is
[22:32] <ross_> maybe you need a BIOS upgrade
[22:33] <Darlok_Williams> ross_: Well, it isn't an ancient drive, but the new computer has 4 SATA slots (New HD connected to SATA 1, a DVD drive on SATA 2, and another HD on SATA 3).
[22:33] <Darlok_Williams> I have no experience with SATA, really.
[22:33] <nashk> I'm trying to reinstall Kubuntu 8.1 from live cd, but whever I try "Try Kubuntu" or "Install Kubuntu", it just freezes there with high hd activity. Any ideas what I can try?
[22:33] <JOSEITO> HOLA I AM CALLED JOSE WHO OF YOU HAS HOTMAIL'S MAIL
[22:33] <ross_> Darlok_Williams: I'm guessing we've got some things in common:  I'm running an 80 gb ide, an 80 gb sata, and a 750 gb sata
[22:34] <Jack_Sparrow> JOSEITO Please lose the caps
[22:34] <ross_> Darlok_Williams: and I'm sure my ide is on the pide bus
[22:34] <ross_> I'm no wiz with hardware by any means, but I think the drive is an eide
[22:34] <Darlok_Williams> ross_: Hmm... that is strange then.  My BIOS also claims that the hard drive plugged into SATA 1 is "drive 3" and the one on SATA 3 is "drive 1"  ... no idea why the IDE drive doesn't show up.
[22:35] <ross_> Not sure either
[22:35] <nosrednaekim> Darlok_Williams: is the IDE drive in master mode?
[22:35] <Darlok_Williams> ross_: Yeah, mine is an EIDE.  It was my old /home/ drive and I need to get stuff off of it (my other mobo fried)
[22:35] <ross_> is your dvd drive on the pide?
[22:35] <Darlok_Williams> nosrednaekim: No idea.
[22:35] <JOSEITO> ?
[22:35] <ross_> my ide and dvd are on the same cable
[22:35] <ross_> terminated on the dvd
[22:35] <Darlok_Williams> ross_: If I remember right when I opened the case, I thought my DVD drive was plugged into SATA 2.
[22:36] <nosrednaekim> Darlok_Williams: if its not in master, and there is no other disk on the bus, it won't show up
[22:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !ops
[22:36] <Darlok_Williams> nosrednaekim: Ah... then I'd bet it isn't.  It was a secondary drive before.
[22:36] <nosrednaekim> ya... thats the problem then
[22:37] <Darlok_Williams> nosrednaekim: You wouldn't happen to know what jumper position I need to put it in, do you?  Or should the drive have that written on it?
[22:37] <ross_> Darlok_Williams: I'm really not a good resource for these kind of problems, although I wish I could help
[22:37] <JOSEITO> O?
[22:37] <JOSEITO> ?
[22:37] <Darlok_Williams> ross_: I appreciate it either way :)
[22:37] <NickPresta> !es | JOSEITO
[22:37] <nosrednaekim> Darlok_Williams: the drive should have it written on it, but if it doesn't, just pull all the jumpers out
[22:37] <Darlok_Williams> I'm sick of Vista and I've only been using it for a half hour
[22:37] <Darlok_Williams> nosrednaekim: Alright... will give that a shot.  Thank you!
[22:38] <jey_> hello everyone
[22:38] <JOSEITO> THEY LOOK GIRLS HAVE HOTMAIL AND CHAMBER(CAMERA)
[22:38] <nixternal> bye
[22:38] <nosrednaekim> hello jey_
[22:39] <nosrednaekim> thanks nixternal
[22:40] <jey_> hello
[22:40] <nosrednaekim> ross_:  BTW... did you have a problem?
[22:42] <jey_> sorry for disturbing
[22:42] <nosrednaekim> no problem  jey_... did you have a problem?
[22:42] <jey_> is there a same channel in french?
[22:42] <nosrednaekim> !fr
[22:42] <jey_> Thanks Merci
[22:50] <GWillakers> Has anyone else had X crash while playing videos?
[22:51] <fra> Hi all
[22:51] <GWillakers> (w hardy)
[22:51] <fra> I need help :)
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> GWillakers: are you using compiz?
[22:51] <jey_> fr Understood!
[22:51] <jey_> bye
[22:51] <GWillakers> happened when I wasn't
[22:51] <nosrednaekim> whats wrong fra?
[22:51] <fra> Someone can tell me how should I set my knoversation ircprogram to join quakenet??
[22:51] <fra> :)
[22:51] <fra> Man, alls, i ve got very big problem to arrive here xD
[22:52] <fra> I ve ubuntu since this morning!
[22:52] <fra> But i sure to be mad in any minutes if anyone wont help me :(
[22:52] <nosrednaekim> File->server list
[22:52] <fra> nosrednaekim:  you can help me??^^
[22:52] <fra> Server list?
[22:53] <fra> There is the perform setting or similiar??
[22:53] <fra> :)
[22:53] <nosrednaekim> what?
[22:53] <fra> (..mmh..in my server list there s not like quakenet xD)
[22:53] <fra> Perform: something that u can decide to do when u open IRC
[22:54] <nosrednaekim> add a server....
[22:54] <fra> Dont remember the setting s port
[22:54] <fra> :S
[22:54] <fra> :'(
[22:55] <fra> is there an help?? :)
[22:55] <fra> Like #help chan
[22:55] <fra> !?
[22:55] <nosrednaekim> I don't know... but google quakenet, and they should have a port number
[22:55] <fra> :o
[22:55] <fra> TY!
[22:56] <fra> (me stupid cause i didnt think it :P)
[22:57] <drbobb> hey folks, hope you don't mind me airing a little hardware-related problem
[22:57] <drbobb> kubuntu is failing to attach my portable player on usb as a storage device, xp does it fine
[22:58] <drbobb> it's a pentagram eon cineo
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> wow,... never head of that b4
[22:58] <nosrednaekim> is it an MTP device?
[22:59] <drbobb> what's an MTP?
[23:00] <nosrednaekim> Media Transfer Protocol
[23:01] <drbobb> just a min., i'll show you the exact device
[23:01] <nosrednaekim> its a M$
[23:01] <drbobb> http://www.pentagram.eu/products/MP3-PMP/Eon-series/pentagram_eon_cineo_p_5116
[23:02] <drbobb> windows seems to support it as a plain usb mass storage device
[23:02] <drbobb> no media player crap involved
[23:02] <drbobb> no drivers to install
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> haha... says it supports Linux :P
[23:03] <nosrednaekim> what does dmesg say when you plug it in?
[23:04] <nosrednaekim> how much did that cost BTW? looks really nice
[23:04] <Walzmyn> anybody else having trouble subscribing to the kubuntu.org RSS feed via Thunderbird?
[23:05] <drbobb> about 75 euro
[23:05] <drbobb> dmesg is like:
[23:05] <drbobb> Direct-Access     Cineo    USBDISK  User    1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0
[23:06] <drbobb> Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[23:06] <drbobb> [sdc] 7945216 512-byte hardware sectors (4068 MB)
[23:06] <silverblade> How do I get Kate to open up new instances if i double click a text file?
[23:06] <silverblade> rather than opening in the existing window
[23:06] <Walzmyn> drbobb, what is this we're looking at?
[23:07] <drbobb> but then it goes like:
[23:07] <drbobb> scsi 3:0:0:0: [sdc] READ CAPACITY failed
[23:07] <drbobb> yeah sorry i know it ought to go to a pastebin
[23:07] <userkubuntu> how do install acrobat reader?
[23:08] <drbobb> last line ok?
[23:08] <drbobb> scsi 3:0:0:0: [sdc] Result: hostbyte=DID_NO_CONNECT driverbyte=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK
[23:08] <drbobb> .. and no luck
[23:08] <Walzmyn> !acrobat
[23:08] <Walzmyn> :(
[23:08] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: odd
[23:09] <drbobb> yeah i thought so too
[23:11] <Walzmyn> userkubuntu, can you use kpdf? or do you need the actuall adobe application?
[23:11] <drbobb> the screen on that toy is really nice btw
[23:11] <drbobb> and format support is pretty good, though ogg formats seem to be unspported
[23:12] <Walzmyn> drbobb, what is this, an MP3 player?
[23:13] <drbobb> audio & video, multiple formats
[23:13] <userkubuntu> Walzmyn, i do like more of the acrobat reader...
[23:14] <drbobb> just got it for my kid, but found i need to reboot into windows to transfer files to it :(
[23:14] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: try doing "sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt"
[23:14] <Walzmyn> userkubuntu, ok
[23:16] <drbobb> nosrednaekim: nope, says device doesn't exist
[23:17] <Walzmyn> userkubuntu, http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2_allversions.html
[23:18] <drbobb> anyway, the device's screen goes on for a moment like it's establishing a connection
[23:18] <drbobb> but a minute later it's off
[23:18] <DarkWizzard> Hello.
[23:19] <DarkWizzard> How do I mount a hdd in /etc/fstab so it can only be mounted by the owner ?
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: nasty...
[23:20] <nosrednaekim> drbobb: heh... since they do claim linux support... call them up :P
[23:20] <userkubuntu> Walzmyn, ok, I go to try to install…
[23:21] <Walzmyn> userkubuntu, kpdf works just fine for me though
[23:21] <drbobb> yeah i guess i'll try my luck with customer support ;-]
[23:21] <DarkWizzard> bump
[23:22] <carlos> ola
[23:22] <nosrednaekim> DarkWizzard: bumps don't work on IRC :P
[23:23] <DarkWizzard> I thought it's worth a try :)
[23:23] <Darlok_Williams> I have an IDE hard drive installed as master into my PIDE slot, but it still isn't recognized by BIOS.  Any ideas?
[23:24] <Walzmyn> Darlok_Williams, do you have your jumpers set correctly on the HDD
[23:24] <Walzmyn> ?
[23:24] <Darlok_Williams> Walzmyn: I believe so.  I've tried setting it to master, cable select, and just removing the jumper altogether.
[23:24]  * Walzmyn nods
[23:24] <Walzmyn> Darlok_Williams, afraid that was my only shot  :(
[23:25] <Darlok_Williams> Walzmyn: Yeah, by all rights it SHOULD be working.
[23:25] <Walzmyn> Darl
[23:26] <Walzmyn> Darlok_Williams, it does have power to it dosen't it? I did that once.
[23:27] <carlos> ola
[23:32] <userkubuntu> and to install the Real player, to touch archives .rmvb, as to install? or only codecs...
[23:35] <kewark> carlos: #kubuntu-es
[23:35] <Walzmyn> !realplayer | userkubuntu
[23:35] <STSX> I was able to tweak things in Gutsy so that my computer suspends OK. Before I upgrade to Hardy, I thought I would see what things might break, so I did a fresh install of Kubuntu Hardy on another partition; even after doing the exact tweaks that worked before in Gutsy, I can't get my computer to suspend. Any ideas how to troubleshoot?
[23:37] <amandibula> does anybody in here use a BCM4318 (or other 43xx) ?
[23:37] <userkubuntu> ok...
[23:37] <bnex10> will i be able to start fluxbox in a new session WITH a existing kde session
[23:37] <bnex10> ?
[23:56] <moster> a las wenas
[23:59] <thomas> hi


[08:03] <dholbach> good morning
[11:35] <Myrtti> mo_bledhoz: can you please give a link to your Launchpad profile page?
[11:35] <mo_bledhoz> facebook
[11:35] <Myrtti> no, Launchpad.
[11:39] <Myrtti> mo_bledhoz: ?
[11:39] <mo_bledhoz> https://launchpad.net/~bledhoz
[11:39] <mo_bledhoz> it?
[11:39] <Myrtti> you're not an ubuntu member tho :-(
[11:39] <Myrtti> !member
[11:45] <mo_bledhoz> ooh..ok thanks
[11:45] <mo_bledhoz> at wiki im see for launchpad cloak