[00:12] <benchik> hello
[00:12] <benchik> was the hard drive Load_Cycle_Count issue fixed in xubuntu 9.10?
[01:58] <toshi> how do you turn off the "growl" like popups everytime you do something like adjust your volume?
[02:53] <pilif12p> Is there xubuntu server?
[07:20] <Balsaq> when i set my resolution to 52kz...and turn off my computer...it does not save my setting?
[07:20] <Balsaq> goes right back to 50?
[09:03] <owen1_> when i type alsamixer i get 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory' any tips?
[09:03] <owen1_> aplay -l shows: 'aplay: device_list:223: no soundcards found...'
[09:03] <owen1_> it started after i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:32] <owen1_> when i type alsamixer i get 'alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory' but when i add sudo i can see it.  any tips?
[09:33] <owen1_> (it started after i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:38] <owen1_> also i only have audio when i run totem as sudo.
[10:57] <kromar> hi
[12:39] <ocs_> hi, is there an official manual/guide for xubuntu ? thanks
[12:58] <TheSheep> !desktopguide | ocs_
[13:02] <ocs_> thanks TheSheep
[13:05] <ocs_> TheSheep: but... is there anything specific for _Xubuntu_ ? not ubuntu
[13:06] <TheSheep> ocs_: try xubuntu.org
[13:06] <benchick> hello
[13:07] <benchick> i just purchased dell inspiron 11z, and was thinking about installing xubuntu on it, but got scared once i heard about the harddrive Load_Cycle_Count issue. was it fixed in xubuntu 9.10?
[13:08] <ocs_> TheSheep: already seen there... but I can't find docs for Xubuntu
[13:08] <benchick> must login to write here?
[13:08] <benchick> well
[13:08] <benchick> hello
[13:08] <benchick> i just purchased dell inspiron 11z, and was thinking about installing xubuntu on it, but got scared once i heard about the harddrive Load_Cycle_Count issue. was it fixed in xubuntu 9.10?
[13:09] <TheSheep> !patience | benchick
[13:09] <benchick> i just thought my question wasn't pasted cause i didn't identify myself to nickserv. sorry
[13:09] <TheSheep> ocs_: well, I don't know any
[13:09] <TheSheep> no problem :)
[13:10] <TheSheep> you may also try looking at the bug report about that issue
[13:10] <TheSheep> !bugs | benchick
[13:12] <benchick> TheSheep: i did try, but couldn't find anything conclusive. when i finally saw "bug fixed" someone wrote it wasn't fixed, and later at the post the status changed again to "not fixed"
[13:13] <benchick> i thought someone here might have more info about this issue
[13:15] <TheSheep> I guess the bugtracker is the best source
[13:19] <benchick> you got me there
[18:32] <jar> Finally registered to the mailing list..
[18:32] <jar> I'm so lazy.
[22:01] <Rafik> hi there
[22:03] <Rafik> why tasksel in xubuntu 9.10 don't have the same tasks as in ubuntu ? i wanted to install the lamp server
[22:14] <jar> Why would you want to run X11 on a server..?
[22:32] <knome> jar, x ssh tunneling maybe?
[22:32] <knome> jar, or freenx or vnc
[22:33] <jar> knome, It's not that alternatives can't be used.
[22:33] <jar> It's that it sucks that it doesn't work.
[22:33] <knome> :)
[23:03] <jar> knome, Oh wow I just realized what you replied to.
[23:03] <jar> I thought you were replying to what I said in #xfce
[23:03]  * jar shakes his head
[23:04] <jar> lol
[23:11] <italomaia_> hello! How could i edit xubuntu user menu in text mode?
[23:12] <jar> italomaia_, What specifically do you need to do?
[23:12] <italomaia_> i need to add an item to the "games" section
[23:12] <italomaia_> in the menu
[23:13] <jar> italomaia_, You'll need to make a .desktop file for it since the distributor did not.
[23:13] <italomaia_> where should i place it?
[23:13] <jar> do you want it to be local or system-wide?
[23:13] <italomaia_> system-wide
[23:13] <jar> /usr/share/applications
[23:14] <italomaia_> k, i'll try out
[23:15] <jar> italomaia_, Take a look at the GNOME games .desktop files
[23:15] <jar> it will give you an idea of how the spec works
[23:15] <jar> The XFce team assures us that the menu editor will return for 4.8
[23:21] <italomaia_> jar, holy shit, it works!
[23:21] <jar> :)
[23:22] <jar> Hehe
[23:22] <jar> italomaia_, It's a pretty simple spec to work with. All it really needs to know is the name and executable really
[23:22] <jar> oh, and a category
[23:22] <jar> Most of the rest is optional.
[23:23] <italomaia_> yeap. The category thing got me confused.
[23:24] <jar> Yeah, it can be a bit tricky
[23:24] <italomaia_> Application;Game;Emulator;GTK <- gives me the following menu: application->game
[23:24] <jar> That sounds about right.
[23:25] <jar> What emulator are you using that didn't come with a menu entry?
[23:25] <jar> that's a little weird if it came from apt
[23:32] <italomaia_> jar, actually, i made a menu app for pygame games and i wanted it to have an entry in the menu
[23:33] <jar> Ah :)
[23:33]  * jar nod
[23:33] <italomaia_> had some hard time finding docs about editing xfce menu by hand
[23:33] <jar> italomaia_, the cool thing is .desktop is for ALL menus
[23:33] <jar> it'll work in GNOME too
[23:33] <italomaia_> hummm
[23:33] <jar> gnome uses /usr/share/applications .. i think kde does too
[23:33] <jar> not sure
[23:34] <jar> don't quote me
[23:34] <jar> :P
[23:34] <italomaia_> sorry
[23:35] <jar> sorry?
[23:35] <jar> For?
[23:35] <italomaia_> you said don't quote me
[23:35] <italomaia_> i tought you meant this:
[23:35] <italomaia_> jar,
[23:35] <jar> ohhh
[23:35] <italomaia_> brazillian here. hoho. I don't get a few expression right
[23:36] <jar> it was just a joke saying i'm not sure so i'm sorry if it doesn't work in kde
[23:36] <jar> :)
[23:36] <jar> i've not used KDE in many years
[23:37] <italomaia_> humm, ok
[23:37] <italomaia_> by the way, i made a remaster of xubuntu these days
[23:37] <italomaia_> do you know of a nice place do advertise it?
[23:37] <jar> DistroWatch.com
[23:37] <jar> :)
[23:38] <italomaia_> k
[23:40] <jar> italomaia_, what did you add or remove from xubuntu?
[23:41] <italomaia_> well, i changed a lot of applications and switched others for equivalent stuff made in python
[23:41] <italomaia_> gnome-games went out, totem went out, abiword...and other
[23:41] <italomaia_> s
[23:42] <italomaia_> mousepad was switched for scite, transmission for deluge
[23:42] <jar> Sounds like you leaned it up a bit :P
[23:43] <italomaia_> well, yeap. My goal was to make something with 700mb or less
[23:43] <jar> I would've went with GVim over Scite ;)
[23:43] <jar> hehe
[23:43] <italomaia_> rsrs lot's of people like gvim
[23:43] <jar> :) hehe
[23:44] <italomaia_> i don't, i kind of dislike it
[23:44] <jar> Yeah, it's a hit or miss editor.
[23:45] <NTFS> xubuntu sucks
[23:45] <italomaia_> yeap.  My girlfriend has a pet turtle.
[23:54] <NTFS> ban me
[23:57] <italomaia_> if interested : http://www.tamar.org.br/
[23:57] <NTFS> !ops
[23:57] <italomaia_> your girlfriend's turtle is a earth turtle?
[23:57] <jar> It's a painted turtle.
[23:57] <italomaia_> hummm
[23:57] <jar> I think that's the species.
[23:58] <jar> http://www.nps.gov/niob/naturescience/images/Painted-Turtle-285.jpg
[23:58] <jar> Its stomach looks like that.


[12:36] <gnomefreak> yeah now i am
[12:37] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: whats up?
[12:41] <Jazzva> gnomefreak: I saw your comment on firefox crash bug
[12:41] <Jazzva> that radio thingie...
[12:42] <Jazzva> I think that similar kind of player has www.dnm.se
[12:42] <Jazzva> And I'm listening to it now, but it's not crashing...
[12:43] <Jazzva> If you wanna check it out just click on "Visit the label site" and in the upper right corner you'll see the player link.
[12:44] <Jazzva> It's been playing for about 40 minutes (cool music)... 'top' reports CPU 40-50% and MEM ~37
[12:44] <Jazzva> (which is fairly normal on my old comp)
[12:45] <Jazzva> bug 121685
[12:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121685 in flashplugin-nonfree "firefox crashed" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121685
[12:50] <gnomefreak> Jazzva: ty i will see it in a few
[12:51] <Jazzva> gnomfreak: Ok, but I don't think it will cause FF to crash :/...
[12:51] <Jazzva> gnomefreak
[12:53] <gnomefreak> let me know if it does while im working on this other pos
[12:54] <Jazzva> Ok, I will...
[12:55] <gnomefreak> ty
[12:56] <Jazzva> Though, I think this might be the difference... This player has a lot of songs, which are not very big streams and on every song change the new stream starts. On the other side, the radio stream is long and continuos, so maybe that's causing the big memory usage.
[12:56] <Jazzva> Maybe that's why this player is not crashing
[01:00] <gnomefreak> agreed
[01:04] <Jazzva> Hmm, I'll see to check tomorrow if I find any flash radio player...
[10:10] <JenFraggle> haven't used dapper so not sure on this but can they upgrade thunderbird to the same version as we have on feisty?  guessing they can as it is lts but not sure
[10:37] <bluekuja> asac: leaving for holidays
[10:37] <bluekuja> gonna be on irc when I'll be back
[10:37] <bluekuja> have fun the in meantime!
[10:37] <bluekuja> take care
[10:37] <bluekuja> ;)
[05:03] <JenFraggle> is there anything useful that I could be helping anyone with?


[00:48] <gwen_fifty-six> Hello! I'm french but I don't found a solution to my problem in the french documentation... I'm on Ubuntu Studio, and I can't use 2 screens in the same time because I have a shadow on my first monitor.... You can help me?
[00:51] <gwen_fifty-six> If you have an idea, this is my mail box for topics, websites inscription and other.... Contact me! gwenel56 @ymail .com (remove spaces! ans this is y mail and not G mail!! :D)
[00:51] <gwen_fifty-six> Good night! ;)
[04:22] <UnWorldly> is there a library that most of the plugins are using for their dsp functions like your oscillators and fft's and stuff?
[04:27] <kleanchap> I am thinking of using ubuntustudio. Is SELinux installed by default on this distro?
[04:29] <kleanchap> How much diskspace does a full install of ubuntustudio use?
[04:35] <UnWorldly> mine takes up about 100 gigs but its also full of music and software at this point
[04:35] <UnWorldly> no selinux
[13:57] <famax8> hey people
[13:57] <smartboyhw> Hello famax8 welcome back!
[13:57] <famax8> again havingthe same issue, ardour wont hear the line in - is connected with jack on
[13:57] <famax8> smartboyhw: hey man how are you?
[13:58] <smartboyhw> famax8, fine
[14:01] <famax8> so yeah ardour wont get any signal i plugged it in jack and all buit nothing some on the wave or even the signal
[14:10] <famax8> woudl knwo why is this? it workd last night very well
[14:11] <smartboyhw> famax8, weird. Did you try repeating steps and such?
[14:12] <famax8> yes
[14:12] <famax8> tried unplug replug save stopstart etc
[14:18] <famax8> im really disappointed by USt 12.10 - only issue so far, the most simple task is impossible and help is fairly poor online - i never had ot go to the forums so far but this time no way to do different ^^
[14:49] <famax8> ??????? aaalllooooooo???
[14:53] <len-1304> famax8, sorry I missed a lot of that.
[14:54] <len-1304> Just woke up.
[14:54] <famax8> len-1304: missed what?
[14:54] <famax8> oh right no problems - i was just wondering why the list of users is so big and nobody is talking today ^^
[14:54] <len-1304> Please remember there are very few of us and only on a volunteer basis.
[14:55] <len-1304> The way we work is that we leave the IRC open all the time so that if some one asks a question while we are not hear we can read it and respond when we are here.
[14:55] <famax8> i know but still over the 54 users ther must be people talking tho not necessarly doing support
[14:56] <smartboyhw> famax8, I really want to, but quite busy now
[14:56] <len-1304> I aslo think that some of the users listed don't remember that they are :)
[14:56] <famax8> but at least talking bs as usual
[14:56] <famax8> hahaha yeah i thought so
[14:56] <famax8> smartboyhw: u at work?
[14:56] <len-1304> There never seems to have been here
[14:57] <smartboyhw> famax8, no I am a 14-year-old student!
[15:00] <famax8> len-1304: hahahah
[15:01] <famax8> smartboyhw: wow and u know about your stuff alredy at 14 - good to see that i wasnt the only one lol
[15:01] <len-1304> Most of the talk is I have this problem... wait two minutes and vanish.
[15:01] <smartboyhw> famax8, what's your age then?:P
[15:32] <famax8> lol
[15:32] <famax8> me im 28 now
[15:32] <famax8> and i didnt vanish im trying to sort this thing out ^^
[15:33] <famax8> in order to post the solutoin here after so it helps others - isnt it what we are here for?
[15:33] <len-1304> Double then. And I am almost double that.
[15:33] <len-1304> Yup.
[15:33] <famax8> lmao
[15:34] <famax8> len-1304: u an oldies then haha if anyone start to take the piss about it tell them u nto old u an original lmao
[15:35] <len-1304> I learned audio as digital was just being introduced. The first Radio stations I working still used turntables.
[16:14] <famax8> lol
[16:14] <famax8> i use turntables as well when im mixing funk
[16:14] <famax8> and stuff like this
[16:14] <famax8> now i try to do it all on pc and live with my time
[17:12] <gwen_fifty-six> Hello! I'm french but I don't found a solution to my problem in the french documentation... I'm on Ubuntu Studio, and I can't use 2 screens in the same time because I have a shadow on my first monitor.... You can help me?If you have an idea, this is my mail box for topics, websites inscription and other.... Contact me! gwenel56 @ymail .com (remove spaces! ans this is y mail and not G mail!! :D)
[17:14] <holstein> gwen_fifty-six: i use arandr
[17:14] <holstein> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-use-multiple-monitors-in-xubuntu.html is relevant, though i dont suggest updating XFCE
[17:14] <holstein> gwen_fifty-six: no one will likely email you, though you are welcome to join and post to the mailing list if you prefer emails
[17:15] <holstein> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-Studio-users
[17:15] <holstein> i would elaborate as to what a 'shadow' is
[17:16] <holstein> if you mean, you are tring to set up dual head, and the screens are mirrored and not spanning, then try arandr
[17:16] <holstein> works for me... and the 2nd link talks about how to make those settings persistent
[17:20] <gwen_fifty-six> I use arandr too, but when I select VGA, my 2 screens are in fonction but in my netbook, i have a shadow in the middle of my screen, and this a 'degradé'... I can see all, this is just in the shadow... I haven't understand all you have say in my mail... Sorry...
[17:22] <holstein> gwen_fifty-six: i would try /join #xubuntu-fr
[17:22] <holstein> i dont understand what a "shadow" is, other than a hardware issue..
[17:24] <gwen_fifty-six> hum... the problem, this is when I start my computer, I have the shadow too...
[17:24] <gwen_fifty-six> Then, no programs are in fonction.....
[17:24] <holstein> gwen_fifty-six: i dont understand what a "shadow" is
[17:25] <gwen_fifty-six> (I hope you understand what I say...)
[17:25] <holstein> gwen_fifty-six: i know what a shadow is to me.. its a dark place
[17:25] <gwen_fifty-six> I don't know too!
[17:25] <holstein> if you have a hardware issue, then software will not fix it
[17:25] <holstein> otherwise, feel free to take pictures and/or screenshots
[17:26] <gwen_fifty-six> I send to you screen shots if you are here tonight... I'm not with my other screen...
[17:27] <holstein> gwen_fifty-six: you should go to that french-speaking xubuntu support channel when you are ready to solve your issue
[17:27] <gwen_fifty-six> Xubuntu is on XCFE too?
[17:28] <gwen_fifty-six> Xubuntu is with XCFE too?
[17:28] <gwen_fifty-six> *
[17:28] <gwen_fifty-six> Thank you!
[17:29] <gwen_fifty-six> See you! ;)
[20:16] <whoo>  #snowlinux
[20:30] <leebtron> A question that may be better for a different channel, but I'm asking it here because it involves UStudio, and UStuddio has been primarily the cause of the issue - I've been having difficulties with keeping the installatino functional, and not interfering with my other OS, Slackware-14
[20:31] <leebtron> I've had unusual things, random errors start to occur after updating UStudio, and have had random malfunctions happen after UStudio overwrites my standard bootloader LILO on my Slack OS
[20:32] <leebtron> and do I need to use the UStudio session login for my audio apps to operate correctly?
[20:35] <len-1304> There are some loaded questions.
[20:36] <len-1304> Yes ubuntu (of any kind, probably any debian based distro) will over write LILO if you tell the install to put it's loader in the same place as LILO was.
[20:36] <holstein> i would just have slack as the main, and let it boot ubuntustudio
[20:37] <holstein> you can always install on separate drives
[20:37] <len-1304> The grub install does try to set itself up so it can boot any OS it finds on the disks.
[20:37] <holstein> you can even unhook the cables, if you are worried about it
[20:37] <holstein> yeah, grub is made to take over
[20:37] <holstein> and you are asking it to
[20:37] <holstein> if you dont want it to, dont use it
[20:38] <len-1304> When installing, It is possible to set grub up to install on the partition you are installing to, but that is not default, you have to select that manually.
[20:39] <holstein> you dont have to use grub at all
[20:39] <holstein> when i have multiple ubuntustduio installs for testing, i dont reinstall grub.. i'll have one "main" one, and i'll install, and go back to main and run "sudo update-grub"
[20:40] <len-1304> oops...
[20:45] <leebtron2> apologies, timedout. how do I review the logs, please?
[20:48] <holstein> leebtron2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1573917/ i'll just put it in a pastie
[20:48] <leebtron2> thanks a bunch holstein
[20:49] <holstein> leebtron2: np :)
[20:54] <leebtron2> I am running a system76 laptop (GAZP8) i7  quad-core, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD which I have partitioned like so - 'top' of drive down: /dev/sda1 - 256 MB ext2 for /boot; /dev/sda2 8GB swap; /dev/sda5 16GB ext4 'slackware root'; /dev/sda6 ext4 'UStusdio root'; /dev/sda7 ext3 '/home' shared across both distros.
[20:55] <leebtron2> when it was running the smoothest, I had Slack as my primary OS, and LILO as my primary BootLoader, and chainloaded to GRUB2 which was installed on /dev/sda6.
[20:55] <holstein> sometimes i isolate... on different drives or whatever.. depends on how mission critical it is
[20:56] <holstein> i would just have one bootloader
[20:56] <leebtron2> but I've been slightly confuzzled by some of the packages descriptions in synaptic, and have botched the UStudio install, or certain aspects of it, and have had certain issues when trying to recorrect and/or reinstall.
[20:57] <leebtron2> my preference would be to have just one bootloader
[20:57] <leebtron2> preferablly LILO, but UStudio doesn't seemto like that, and I haven't been able to get slack to play nicely when only using GRUB.
[20:59] <leebtron2> I didn't mind chainloading grub, it kind of gave me a second oppoprtunity to go back to LILO/Slack, but I'd probably7l wind up setting GRUB2 to default to UStudio and not display the menu at all.
[21:01] <leebtron2> I'm an old linux guy, RH/fedora core 6, and started using slack around 12, 13.37, and now 14. TBH, the newer, 'user-friendly' distros have confusedme for a bit
[21:02] <leebtron2> i'm used to seeing a bit more of what's happening, and I don't completely understand what the system is doing in UStudio. How I botched the installs before were by installing packages through synaptic that wound up disabling key components of the system
[21:03] <leebtron2> I installed gnome-session, and one of the network applets would uninstall a key nwetworking componoent, and I couldn't get it back w/o a reinstall
[21:04] <leebtron2> i guess either synaptic didn't describe it thoroughly enough, or there was an additional tab or section i wasn't seeing before i clicked 'apply'
[21:05] <leebtron2> when i want to work with audio, do i need to use the 'UStudio' session from the login manager, or do the packages incorporate fully into the xfce and gnome-sessions if they're installed?
[21:06] <holstein> leebtron2: the packages are just that.. they work where ever
[21:07] <leebtron2> I ask because when i've been browsing synaptic from an 'XFCE' login session, some of the programs that I thought were default packages are not listed as installed.
[21:07] <leebtron2> that's what I thought.
[21:08] <leebtron2> can you tell me what then is the difference, exactly, from the differing sessions on the login screen?
[21:08] <holstein> nothing
[21:08] <leebtron2> like is it a startup configuration script or something?
[21:08] <holstein> look/feel
[21:08] <leebtron2> opkay, cool beans
[21:09] <leebtron2> when i've been going through trying to trim down the install, removing the asian languages i do not, and probably will not ever speak, as well as the SCIM input methods/anthy and all of that why some of the seemingly core UStudio meta packages seem to be dependent on their installation?
[21:10] <holstein> yup
[21:10] <holstein> leebtron2: i would say, you dont need ubuntustudio
[21:10] <holstein> you can use all this software in slackware
[21:10] <holstein> if you want ubuntustudio, i would use it more 'as-is'
[21:10] <leebtron2> I don't mind having spanish and german language support, but the asian stuff is more than i'd like
[21:10] <holstein> its not really designed for the uber-geek to load up and 'trim down' and trick ou
[21:11] <holstein> out*
[21:11] <holstein> you can, and are encouraged to, but it will be uncessarily challenging
[21:11] <holstein> and for what? 70kb's free on the hard drive?
[21:11] <holstein> this is production.. you will be creating large files
[21:11] <leebtron2> I am aware, and have installed and used many of the packages on my desktop in slack, but Ilike the default config of UStudio, and the low-latency kernel
[21:11] <leebtron2> gotcha
[21:12] <leebtron2> i thought they took up alot more than that
[21:12] <leebtron2> and TBH, it's been a very long time since i've had a HDD so small, which has made me a bit paranoid
[21:12] <holstein> i wouldnt worry til you need to
[21:12] <holstein> then, i would not run multiple OS's on it
[21:13] <holstein> i would slim down that way
[21:13] <holstein> you can mostly use all of our stuff from the live DVD
[21:13] <holstein> if space becomes an issue
[21:13] <holstein> ok.. gotta run.. good luck, and check out #opensourcemusicians ..we had a few slackware users in there
[21:13] <leebtron2> I'm usually on a HDD of 250GB plus for the OS, and I have a 3TB RAID 10 NAS unit for my main storage, and only keep around what i've actively working on
[21:14] <leebtron2> thanks for all the info and help holstein
[22:16] <xrs> whats up with me getting rolled from #ubuntu for using Ubuntu Studio?
[22:17] <xrs> was told im not allowed to ask support questions for USt in #ubuntu or #xubuntu
[22:29] <amarettox> hello
[22:29] <amarettox> I'm having some trouble using jack
[22:31] <xrs> im not experienced in supporting jack, if no one answers here you could try #jack
[22:31] <amarettox> oh i see, connect to #jack instead of #ubuntustudio ?
[22:33] <xrs> u dont have to leave, but thats the official channel of the jack project. theres people in here who know jack, but right now it seems every one is afk
[22:35] <amarettox> thanks man, ill give it a go
[22:36] <xrs> well that could have gone better....


[06:52] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:01] <Kilos> morning all and sundry
[07:01] <Kilos> and inetpro
[07:28] <thatgraemeguy> /nick sundry
[07:28] <thatgraemeguy> hi
[07:29] <Kilos> haha hi thatgraemeguy
[08:17] <pieter2627> morning all
[08:17] <Kilos> hi pieter2627
[08:17] <Kilos> hi Cryterion TinuvaMac
[08:21] <TinuvaMac> morning Kilos
[08:29] <Cryterion> Morning
[16:07] <Langjan> Hi guys, Kilos
[16:09] <Langjan> What can an outsider do when he gets you to go to your browser and then press super + r ?
[16:18] <nlsthzn> there does not seem to be anything bound in the browser to super + r
[16:19] <nlsthzn> I have tried pressing it a few times and can
[16:19] <nlsthzn> can't see anything happening
[16:19] <Kilos> hi Langjan
[16:20] <Langjan> Hi Kilos  and nlsthzn
[16:20] <Kilos> hi mneelsie
[16:20] <Kilos> neelsie too
[16:20] <nlsthzn> o/
[16:21] <Langjan> One of my Ubuntu converts received a phone call from somebody who alleges she has a virus on her system
[16:21] <Kilos> she is on windows right
[16:21] <Langjan> they asked her to open her browser and then to prsee super+r and then something else, then she became suspicious and terminated the call
[16:22] <Langjan> no, on ubuntu 12.04, but I think the caller assumes she is on windows
[16:22] <Kilos> first rule. dont listen to strangers
[16:22] <Langjan> amwen
[16:22] <Langjan> amen
[16:22] <Langjan> shes very naive
[16:23] <Kilos> oh wait
[16:23] <Kilos> i heard a while back
[16:23] <Kilos> um
[16:23] <Langjan> how do you initiate screen sharing on windows?
[16:23] <Kilos> similar thing but think it was for cells
[16:24] <Langjan> I want to go upgrade her to 14.04 tonight
[16:24] <Kilos> where you want to share with?
[16:24] <Langjan> no I dont, I think somebody may have been trying to get to her screen
[16:24] <Kilos> you want to help her remotely?
[16:24] <Langjan> no, shes just across the road
[16:25] <Kilos> ok
[16:25] <Kilos> just remember for friends who need help that arent close you can use teamviewer
[16:25] <Kilos> then do what is needed fort them
[16:25] <Kilos> for
[16:26] <Langjan> fort or fart?
[16:26] <Kilos> sies man
[16:26] <Langjan> skies
[16:26] <Langjan> lmga
[16:26] <Kilos> lolol
[16:27] <Kilos> what do you mean by screen
[16:27] <Langjan> ok but also I should secure her router,who was it that helped me?
[16:27] <Kilos> you alkready too clever to help
[16:27] <Kilos> oh my
[16:27] <Kilos> hes has been scarce
[16:28] <Kilos> zerlgi
[16:28] <Kilos> forget his new nick
[16:28] <Kilos> oh
[16:28] <Langjan> Ill get her on Xchat then see if we can trace him
[16:28] <Kilos> andrewlsd
[16:28] <Langjan> yea thats right, but let me upgrade her first
[16:28] <Kilos> mail him and arrange a time
[16:28] <Kilos> ok
[16:29] <Kilos> also install gufw
[16:29] <Langjan> you gotIts andrew mc iver, not so?
[16:29] <Kilos> ya
[16:29] <Langjan> whats gufw?
[16:29] <Kilos> he is lotsa andrews
[16:30] <Kilos> graphic firewall
[16:30] <Kilos> you just turn it on
[16:30] <Langjan> ok thks, gotta go, chat later
[16:30] <Kilos> blocks all incoming
[16:30] <Kilos> gho well
[16:30] <Kilos> go
[16:30] <Langjan> blocks all incoming what?
[16:31] <Langjan> thks also to you
[16:31] <Kilos> hackers and crackers and bad peeps
[16:31] <Langjan> go well
[16:31] <Kilos> ty
[16:31] <Langjan> ok thks good tip
[16:31] <Langjan> lekker aand verder vir jou
[16:31] <Kilos> selle daar oom
[17:12] <mazal> Evenings
[17:32] <Kilos> hi mazal
[18:21] <superfly> hi mazal
[18:23] <Kilos> hi superfly hows yuou and family?
[18:23] <superfly> They're fine, I'm tired.
[18:24] <Kilos> ai!
[18:42] <Kilos> im about to call it a night guys
[18:42] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:38] <inetpro> good mornings
[20:06] <superfly> morning, inetpro!
[20:08] <magespawn> good evening
[20:12] <superfly> morning magespawn
[20:13] <magespawn> hey superfly, i never quite get used to that way of talking
[20:19] <inetpro> magespawn: why?
[20:27] <magespawn> inetpro i almost always forget about it until somebody else does it
[20:27] <inetpro> :-)
[20:33] <magespawn> i am busy reading up on how to set up a radius server and a squid proxy server, any tips?
[20:33] <superfly> squid is easy. never done radius
[20:34] <magespawn> i need the radius for authentication of the hotspot that i going to try and set up
[20:34] <magespawn> ^am
[20:35] <magespawn> i have to put stronger control on the network at the one reserve, the staff there used 229Gig of data by the 24th
[20:39] <spinza> magespawn: freeradius?
[20:39] <spinza> seen people use that
[20:39] <magespawn> spinza: i will have a look at that
[20:45] <magespawn> bedtime for me now, good night all


[00:06] <ScottK> Then I'd write the list.  Phil is generally helpful.
[00:58] <jtaylor> wrote a mail
[01:02] <jtaylor> I'm a bit surprised pyqt 4.10 spreads so fast
[01:02] <jtaylor> there are bugs popping up everywhere
[01:03] <jtaylor> (many version string related)
[01:03] <jtaylor> but its only released since two weeks :O
[01:03] <jtaylor> its not really a package you tend to follow upstream, you usually use what the distributions provides
[02:13] <ScottK> Not if you're on Windows or Mac.
[03:44] <TheLordOfTime> this is a question i have.  Can I create a 'stable' and 'testing' (Debian) pbuilder environment within Ubuntu?
[03:44] <TheLordOfTime> purely curious, because this would allow me to do cross-distro packaging testing.
[04:12] <ScottK> TheLordOfTime: Yes.
[04:14] <TheLordOfTime> ScottK:  cool, that should make things easier when i'm having to build-test bugfixed packages across ubuntu releases as well as in Debian.  :)
[12:45] <jtaylor> hm
[12:45] <jtaylor> why did tcl get multiarched after ffe without fixing its rdepends? :/
[12:49] <jtaylor> ok the thing I'm loking at now (scilab) failed before too, maybe it was overlooked)
[13:02] <haikong> hi,i am new here
[13:04] <jtaylor> hi
[13:07] <haikong> i just use ubuntu for half a year.Someone can show me how to establish  wifi to share with my friends?
[14:09] <tumbleweed> jtaylor: presumably that still has to happen. I assume you saw the discussion in -devel a day or two ago
[14:10] <tumbleweed> ah, you did
[14:11] <jtaylor> no I didn't
[14:11] <jtaylor> hm why a would i386 build not get a rpath to libjvm.so but amd64 does
[14:36] <jtaylor> ah it uses uname -m which does not work in a chroot
[14:37] <jtaylor> whats the best way to get 64 or 32 bit that does not use dpkg-architecture?
[14:46] <tumbleweed> if uname -m doesn't work, then you probably aren't doing your chroot properly. that's what linux32/setarch is for
[14:47] <jtaylor> hm how do I do that with pbuilder?
[14:49] <tumbleweed> (precise-i386)stefanor@purcell:/$ uname -m
[14:49] <tumbleweed> i686
[14:49] <tumbleweed> ah, pbuilder documentation seems to say run "linux32 pbuilder ..."
[14:50] <jtaylor> yes
[14:51] <jtaylor> I'm sure to forget it if I dont have it my rc :/
[14:53] <tumbleweed> how about running linux32 inside the chroot? it lets you specify a wrapper, doesn' tit?
[14:57] <jtaylor> ok so I think I fixed scilab
[14:58] <jtaylor> but thing of the port is ugly but only required for matlab 4 (from 1994)
[14:58] <jtaylor> doing it properly probably needs change of api so should be done by upstream
[14:59] <jtaylor> acceptable for raring for now I think
[14:59] <tumbleweed> yay?
[18:11] <foxx> question, does anyone else feel that bugs.launchpad.net is really unusable, in comparison with something like github? obviously, they have two very different end goals, but launchpad feels very messy imho
[18:15] <hyperair> foxx: i don't. in fact, i feel github issues are really messy and unusable.
[18:15] <hyperair> for one, it doesn't have any proper support for setting bug severities -- it only has tags.
[18:16] <hyperair> what exactly is unusable about bugs.launchpad.net anyway?
[18:16] <foxx> that's a good point.. the lack of in-depth issue tracking / severities. but tags can be used to some extent to replace that.. (obviously in a VERY basic format.. no where near suitable for any larger scale project)
[18:16] <maxb> Launchpad is aimed at the complexities and nuances of projects as complicated as a whole Linux distribution. Github's issue tracker..... isn't, and it really shows
[18:16] <foxx> i think the issues page on github is great for small one off projects.. anything else larger, i persnally use JIRA
[18:17] <hyperair> JIRA actually looks pretty okay
[18:17] <hyperair> i haven't used it personally though. only poked the REST api
[18:17] <foxx> its great, but managing it is almost a full time job in itself
[18:17] <foxx> very quickly becomes a monster etc
[18:17] <hyperair> ugh.
[18:17] <hyperair> how about something like redmine?
[18:17] <foxx> hyperair: to answer your question tho, i found just browsing launchpad troublesome.. there's a *lot* of links all over the place, no consistent font sizes / layout etc
[18:18] <hyperair> no consistent font sizes? where?
[18:18] <foxx> imo, the feature set is brilliant, but the design lets it down.. at least for me anyway
[18:18] <hyperair> it looks consistent to me
[18:18] <foxx> font sizes, take the comments discussion for example
[18:18] <foxx> looking at a large convo on there is a strain on the eyes
[18:18] <hyperair> umm, that's just normal monospaced font.
[18:19] <hyperair> any programmer ought to be used to monospaced font by now.
[18:19] <foxx> yeah, but in comparison with the discussion style used on github.. id say github one looks nicer
[18:19] <hyperair> that's rather subjective.
[18:19] <foxx> of course.. give me sublime and a monospaced font, and ill rewrite the world and make it pretty at the same time lol. but thats one page i personally feel could do with a nicer design
[18:19] <hyperair> i like plain text.
[18:20] <foxx> yeah, i think you're right tbh, personal preference etc
[18:20] <hyperair> the difference between launchpad's bug comments and github's is the markdown support
[18:20] <hyperair> which leads to the difference between text and html mail
[18:20] <foxx> heh, well how about this for a contradiction.. i absolutely hate html mail
[18:21] <hyperair> but you like non-monospaced, formatted text.
[18:21] <hyperair> hmm.
[18:21] <hyperair> very weird
[18:21] <hyperair> here's a question -- do you have the ubuntu set of fonts installed?
[18:21] <foxx> lol, yes my mom used to say that to me a lot ;P
[18:22] <foxx> totally honest, i didnt even know ubuntu had its own set of fonts :/
[18:22] <hyperair> there's Ubuntu and Ubuntu Mono
[18:22] <foxx> and shamefully, i use windows
[18:22] <hyperair> Ubuntu is the variable-width, sans-serif one.
[18:22] <hyperair> Ubuntu Mono is the monospaced one
[18:22] <ScottK> foxx: I think most developers read LP bugs via mail anyway, so the web presentation doesn't matter much.
[18:22] <hyperair> and they're both pretty beautiful
[18:22] <foxx> installing now
[18:23] <ScottK> Also, there's #launchpad where this is probably more on topic.
[18:23] <foxx> ScottK: ah, didnt realise they had their own channel. ty :)
[18:24] <foxx> well ill be damned
[18:24] <foxx> hyperair: that actually looks a lot better with that font
[18:24] <foxx> still not sure about the 10px fonts at the top, but a much better improvement. ty
[18:25] <hyperair> :)
[18:26] <hyperair> i use Ubuntu Mono for coding.
[18:26] <foxx> i use consolas, as it was the only decent mono windows font
[18:26] <hyperair> what i really like is that Ubuntu Mono is slightly narrower than the other monospace fonts, so i can fit 80 chars in width into two panes side by side.
[18:27] <foxx> just tried ubuntu mono on sublime for windows... it doesnt play nicely sadly.. too much padding at top and bottom
[18:27] <hyperair> plus a bit more for line numbers, pane separator, and the 80th column marker line
[18:27] <hyperair> hmm pity.
[18:28] <foxx> i assume its not meant to look like this; http://i.imgur.com/BYYOqXU.png?1
[18:32] <foxx> guess that'll serve me right for using windows lol
[18:57] <foxx> does anyone know of any reason why dput/mini-dinstall would show a message about not having a source override entry? the package seems to have uploaded correctly, but that message has made me curious. here is the log http://pastebin.com/sgjC4Avm . there was also some discussion in here about it before here; http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/03/16/%23ubuntu-motu.html . apparently it should be
[18:57] <foxx> quiet about it unless there is a problem.. but im not sure what the problem is :X
[19:48] <maxb> foxx: overrides are data used by the archive admins of a distribution to control and organize the archive. It's probably a bit silly for *mini*-dinstall to even be trying to implement them. Personally I prefer reprepro for my server-side repository management, so I don't use mini-dinstall any more.
[19:51] <foxx> hmm, i had a shot at using reprepro, but it wasn't able to handle multiple package versions, which was a no go for me.. can i ask why you chose reprepro?
[20:24] <ESphynx> xnox: ping
[20:24] <ESphynx> I'd have some fixes if you haven't reviewed anything yet =)


[16:15] <OvenWerks> zequence: with regard to wine... it is too late for 16.10, but we could try adding it to 17.04 as soon as the ISOs start building to see if the ISOs will build with dual arch libs. It may be a ISO build setting is required. I do not know how large the libs are though.
[16:17] <OvenWerks> zequence: The other issue with installing wine, even on 32 bit systems, is that it does replace some of the video driver software as well. This may take a system that just works and give a system that just won't work.
[16:17]  * OvenWerks found out about this installing wine on his son's computer
[16:19] <OvenWerks> zequence: my other concern is that people will use wine as a first solution rather than looking at native software first and then complain if it doesn't work.
[17:08] <OvenWerks> zequence: it seems that the ppa version of Ardour5.0 is missing some file. It crashes on startup. When I tried it strait up (with a config directory already created) it crashed with core dump. So I got rid of the config directory and tried again. I get http://www.ovenwerks.net/paste/US-Ardour5-fail.png
[17:09] <OvenWerks> zequence: it seems that there is a whole other data package missing too.
[17:09] <OvenWerks> This is testing on 16.04
[17:11]  * OvenWerks is downgrading to the original.
[17:17] <OvenWerks> zequence: could be that synaptic does not install snaps
[17:17] <OvenWerks> retrying with SW update.
[17:26] <OvenWerks> zequence: it seems that the updater installs the data package as a snap (maybe the binary too) using apt tools does not install correctly.
[17:27] <OvenWerks> Ardour5.0 works for me on 16.04 if installed using the GUI tools
[17:27] <OvenWerks> this could be a problem with using snap type packages
[17:28] <OvenWerks>  There are a lot of "old hands" that just out of habbit use apt-get for everything.
[18:26] <zequence> OvenWerks: Check if the file is there, in /usr/share/ardour5/icons/zoom_in_cursor.png
[18:27] <zequence> Also, there should be no snaps involved.
[18:27] <zequence> In fact, remove all ardour packages first, then install from the PPA.
[18:29] <zequence> OvenWerks: You're right. ardour-data is missing. Which is weird, cause it is built from the same source package
[18:30]  * zequence scratches head
[18:32] <zequence> ardour-data basically includes all files in /usr/share/ardour
[18:32] <zequence> Or, /usr/share/ardour5, rather
[18:38] <zequence> Building locally works fine, but for some reason the -data package is not built in the PPA
[18:39] <DalekSec> Link?
[18:39] <zequence> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/dev-testing
[18:40] <zequence> I rebuilt the source, this time without basing on the previous version (but don't think it makes any difference). And, dputted it
[18:41] <zequence> No, wait
[18:41] <zequence> DalekSec: It is there. I'm just being rusty
[18:41] <zequence> OvenWerks: Not sure how you managed to not install ardour-data, but try again. It is the PPA
[18:42] <OvenWerks> zequence: when I use the GUI "Software Updaer" it works.
[18:42] <DalekSec> Yeah I was about to look in the archive itself as it looked there.
[18:43] <zequence> OvenWerks: How did you install the first time?
[18:43] <OvenWerks> zequence: I started it, created a new session and checked that I could run audio through.
[18:47] <OvenWerks> zequence: I added the PPA apt-get updated and used synaptic to look for it and installed ardour-i686.. which depends on ardour. I think what I needed to do was upgrade. I am looking now and I am probably seeing "Installed version" was 4.7 and going "I don't want that"
[18:48] <OvenWerks> zequence: So maybe my mistake. I did, however, see the word snap somewhere. (in the sofware updater I think)
[18:49] <zequence> Strange
[18:49] <OvenWerks> zequence: so if I had do atp-get update; atp-get upgrade or dist-upgrade it should have worked.
[18:49] <zequence> So many package managers now..
[18:49] <zequence> Yes, that should have done it
[18:49] <zequence> (if ardour was already installed)
[18:51] <OvenWerks> zequence: I wonder if ardour-i686 depends on ardour5.0 or just ardour
[18:52] <zequence> There's no package named ardour5. ardouri686 is a transitional package only
[18:53] <zequence> So, ardour-i686 will install ardour (the 32bit one)
[18:53] <OvenWerks> ardour-i686 shouold depend on the 5.0 version of ardour.
[18:53] <OvenWerks> zequence: it just depends on ardour
[18:53] <zequence> There's only one version at the time now
[18:54] <zequence> The package for ardour5 is named ardour
[18:55] <zequence> It was decided that there would only be one ardour since only the latest version is being maintained upstream.
[18:56] <OvenWerks> zequence: Yes, but depends can be version specific. ardour-i686 is not.
[18:57] <zequence> Well, it doesn't need to be, I guess
[18:57] <OvenWerks> That is fine if there is no ardour already in the machine, not if there is.
[18:58] <zequence> sakrecoer: I changed the ubuntustudio-dev team to "restricted", so those phony accounts can't ask to join anymore. Invites only.
[18:58] <OvenWerks> on the other hand if I had gone slower and read the description in synaptic ... it would have been better too.
[18:58] <zequence> OvenWerks: You're forgetting that you still need to upgrade.
[18:59] <zequence> ..if you already have ardour, that is
[18:59] <zequence> But, you mean installing ardour-i686 installed the new version of ardour, but not the new version of ardour-data?
[19:00] <OvenWerks> yes, it is certainly my mix up in installing.
[19:23]  * DalekSec wonders what the deps look like.
[19:26] <OvenWerks> DalekSec: for what?
[19:26] <OvenWerks> (which package in particular)
[19:26] <DalekSec> ardour.
[19:27] <OvenWerks> for ardour-i686 it is just straight ardour with no version.
[19:27] <OvenWerks> for ardour it looks for ardour-data (again no version info.
[19:28] <OvenWerks> then all the libs
[19:30] <OvenWerks> DalekSec: ardour depends on libcwiid1 I am not sure wiimote stuff works anymore because bluetooth stuff blocks it now. That part has not been kept up and I have not been able to get it to work.


[15:03] <jrgifford> paultag, is there a way to get actual firefox in debian, or am i stuck with iceweasel?
[15:03] <jrgifford> http://superuser.com/questions/322376/how-to-install-real-firefox-on-debian | i see this, but i don't like the idea of adding the mint repo
[15:07] <MarkDude> jrgifford: the commands are on there
[15:07] <MarkDude> For some reason they left out sudo
[15:07]  * MarkDude will try it and see :)
[15:08] <jrgifford> MarkDude, i'm asking if there is a better way of doing it that is more inline with the "debian way", if you will.
[15:09] <MarkDude> Oh
[15:09] <MarkDude> http://www.fandigital.com/2012/09/install-real-firefox-in-debian.html
[15:09] <MarkDude> The link I have is NOt as smooth as Deb :)
[18:30] <paultag> jrgifford: I think you can rebuild it if you change the changelog source entry or something
[18:31] <paultag> jrgifford: someone invented some magical hack
[18:41] <yano> that's the way i run firefox on most of my machines
[22:38] <jrgifford> paultag, ok.
[23:36] <skellat> I wish I could use this as album art for the Burning Circle: https://plus.google.com/116015965439782966698/posts/9tgTjvLK6Fh
[23:46] <skellat> By Launchpad user name, here is the current roster of members of the LoCo who hold status as "Ubuntu Member" that were looking to increase: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5627575/


[15:04] <daker> newz2000, ping
[15:05] <newz2000> hey daker
[15:08] <daker> quick question: is http://www.canonical.com/rss.xml have always 10items ?
[15:08] <daker> newz2000, ^
[15:09] <newz2000> daker: let me look
[15:09] <daker> ty
[15:09] <daker> t
[15:51] <newz2000> daker: sorry, I can't easily find where that's set at
[15:56] <daker> newz2000, no problem
[20:09] <Ronnie> mhall119, cjohnston: i have a question about event timezones
[20:09] <Ronnie> why is the timezone only localized if the event contains an venue or channel?
[20:18] <mhall119> Ronnie: channel doesn't matter
[20:18] <mhall119> it'll use the venue if it has one
[20:18] <mhall119> then it'll try using the team's default timezone
[20:18] <mhall119> otherwise it'll be UTC
[20:30] <Ronnie> mhall119: http://pastebin.com/iyu2S24K
[20:30] <Ronnie> it specifically checks for a venue, then channel, else UTC
[22:24] <mhall119> so it does, I didn't remember that
[22:25] <mhall119> I'm not really sure what the rationale was behind that either
[22:25] <Ronnie> mhall119: did you wrote that code?
[22:26] <mhall119> I might have....but for the life of me I can't understand why I would
[22:26] <mhall119> so I'll just blame nigelb for it, since he's asleep and can't defend himse
[22:26] <mhall119> himself
[22:44] <Ronnie> mhall119: what do you think of this? http://pastebin.com/RCUe5M4Y
[22:45] <mhall119> Ronnie: .all should be .filter
[22:45] <Ronnie> just noticed, but was too slow to type
[22:47] <Ronnie> any other remarks?
[22:49] <daker> hello
[22:50] <mhall119> Ronnie: nope, that looks sane to me
[22:50] <Ronnie> hey daker
[22:50] <Ronnie> mhall119: ill go testing and pushing than
[22:50] <mhall119> good evening daker
[22:57] <daker> mhall119, is the test looking good now ?
[22:57] <mhall119> daker: sorry I haven't gotten to it yet, been fixing summit
[22:58] <daker> ok
[22:59] <daker> mhall119, any idea what's the problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/676242/ ?
[23:01] <daker> ah got it
[23:23] <Ronnie> merge is ready to be reviewed: https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/team-event-timezome/+merge/73152
[23:44] <daker> woow my first ppa https://launchpad.net/~daker/+archive/slumber
[23:44] <mhall119> \o/
[23:44] <mhall119> PPAs are awesome
[23:46] <daker> packaging is not easy :/
[23:49] <mhall119> it gets easier
[23:49] <mhall119> especially with bzr builddeb
[23:50] <mhall119> also, once you get the packaging files done, you don't have to do much besides "dch -i" to update the changelog


[11:40] <Iamahuman> My friend who is a professional musician gave me a tip that this place https://www.modartt.com/ has some really high quality synths, so I proceeded to download them both (grand piano & organ). I can't get the standalone program to start, but the packages contain also .lv2 files, so I looked and I should be able to load them to into Ardour
[11:41] <Iamahuman> oh yeah, and I am the same guy as twojukeboksi. kinda inbetween nick juggling
[12:46] <Iamahuman4> Czesć Polska Souler
[12:47] <Iamahuman4> I hope I got that somewhat right
[12:50] <Souler> hello Iamahuman4
[12:52] <Souler> Polska - country, - Polak - Person, polski - adjective
[12:55] <Iamahuman4> thanks for the instruction
[12:57] <Iamahuman4> I did speak mediocre Russian when pretending to study it for 8.5 yrs, but when I was at Warsaw Central Train Station and I was like 14 yr old on train trip to Prague with my mom, I tried to buy some water and then the lady goes "Gazovnii .. Nigazovnii" (iirc) and I just froze and could not decipher she is asking with bubbles or not
[12:58] <Iamahuman4> totally different langs naturally
[13:00] <Souler> Gazowana czy niegazowana :)
[13:04] <Souler> When I was on Warsaw Central Train Station I expected him to say: Warszawa Główna... trust me, i'm a musician, i have a good ear, she said Warszawa Gówniarz, whats mean Warsaw whipster
[13:05] <Souler> Główna/Gówniarz, sounds similar
[14:57] <twojukeboksi> Hey. I hooked my Fender Mustang modeling amp's USB to the US and I'm getting ridiculously low signal levels. There is no mixer for it in alsamixer. I cranked the boost in Ardour to max, but still skimpy quiet signal. What to do?
[15:03] <sirriffsalot> twojukeboksi: is there sound coming out of the speaker as well?
[15:06] <sirriffsalot> twojukeboksi: my workaround for that back when I used to hook up a USB-amp directly into my machine was to simply crank up the gain on the amp so it got to a reasonably good level digitally, and then just plug in a pair of headphones into the aux on the speaker, so I didn't have to worry about neighbours etc. Hopefully there is one on yours?
[15:07] <sirriffsalot> twojukeboksi: alternatively just load up a simple amplifier in Carla, or however you normally choose to run plugins, and route the USB-speaker through that first, boost up the gain, then route it onwards to where you wanna record
[15:08] <sirriffsalot> twojukeboksi: but if there really is just a quiet signal... and none of this solves it? Then you've got bigger problems I'm afraid.. Get a cheap external sound-card that can take a jack directly from the amp instead and record that way. You're gonna need that sound card eventually anyways :)
[15:10] <sirriffsalot> twojukeboksi: actually, I think I remember now
[15:11] <sirriffsalot> twojukeboksi: you might need to run $: alsa_in -dhw:x (x being whatever number the speaker comes out as when you run $: lsusb)
[15:11] <sirriffsalot> Or perhaps it was alsa_out, lol, can't recall.  What does that '-dhw:x' do ?
[15:48] <OvenWerks> sirriffsalot: running alsa_in is not needed in this case and would provide lower quality than the zita_a2j that he is already using
[15:48] <OvenWerks> twojukeboksi: if there is no level in alsamixer, then the controls are on te amp itself.
[15:49] <OvenWerks> twojukeboksi: probably physical knobs
[15:50] <OvenWerks> twojukeboksi: sirriffsalot is correct though in that the amp may be painfully loud before the signal is right.
[15:51] <OvenWerks> twojukeboksi: I expect the amp has a master volume which comes after the ADC that can be truned down and the inputs turned up
[15:52] <OvenWerks> twojukeboksi: for good recording, it is normal to record an input with it's level -12 to -20 dB FS
[15:53] <OvenWerks> twojukeboksi: this allows headroom for peaks you can't see with metering (or generally hear) so they will not be clipped and then you will hear them in a bad way.
[16:01] <OvenWerks> Fender's manual for this device is not very good.
[16:03] <OvenWerks> twojukeboksi: there is one line that sounds bad: "Use Fender ®FUSE™ software to control your Mustang from your computer and access bonus amp features not available from the Mustang alone."
[16:11] <OvenWerks> twojukeboksi: then from the fender website: "Effective March 20, 2020 Fender® FUSE™ has been discontinued."
[16:12] <OvenWerks> twojukeboksi: anyway, I expect that if you turn the master down on the amp and turn up levels in the preamp/effects area, conmputer levels will improve
[16:14] <OvenWerks> Fender's manuals are written for those who have no idea what any of the effects should do in real life but just want to sound like EVH or whoever.
[16:22] <oerheks> i found this github, 2018 https://github.com/snhirsch/mustang-midi-bridge
[17:46] <twojukeboksi> thanks for help people
[17:47] <twojukeboksi> it turns out there is a parameter for "USB output Gain" in the UI of the amp
[18:16] <sirriffsalot> OvenWerks: twojukeboksi sorry had to step out. Yeah, I had no idea what he was running, but he sounded new to this so I thought I might cover everything that might help
[18:17] <sirriffsalot> twojukeboksi: there you go! Glad you figured it out. Happy recording :)
[18:18] <sirriffsalot> OvenWerks: isn't it so that you can define the quality with some additional commands with alsa_in?
[18:20] <BrianHechinger[m> Anyone have any suggestions for music players in US?
[18:57] <OvenWerks> sirriffsalot: there is a reason studio-controls uses zita-ajbridge instead of alsa_in/out:
[18:58] <OvenWerks> sirriffsalot: zita-ajbridge has better quality SRC, it uses less CPU, it allows values for SR, buffer size that are different from jack, it allows a no SRC mode for synced devices.
[19:13] <OvenWerks> sirriffsalot: studio-controls sets up zita-ajbridge for the user when a USB device is plugged in and that device will just show up on the jack graph (in carla or whatever)
[19:36] <chris_uk[m]> Greetings. Just installed a US update that included studio controls. After rebooting, there is no sound from any app at all. It was fine earlier today. Just been poking around in studio controls settings, pulse bridging especially. In the auto connect port I have options for 'Main Output' Ports and 'system: playback_'  through 6. Can' t remember what was there before I started poking around and changing it. Any
[19:36] <chris_uk[m]> suggestions. I can send screenshots. I am using Focusrite 6i6 2nd gen.
[19:39] <chris_uk[m]> Sorry should be 'system:playback_1  system: playbsck_2 through 6.
[20:05] <OvenWerks> chris_uk[m]: thank you for asking. I am not sure I will be able to help today as I am a bit ill.
[20:07] <OvenWerks> chris_uk[m]: just to be sure we are talking about the same stuff, studio controls shows version 2.1.4?
[20:09]  * OvenWerks wonders how come everything works for him until someone else uses it.
[20:10] <chris_uk[m]> Yes V2.1.4. Sorry to hear you are ill. Wish a speedy recovery. Leave it til you are well.
[20:38] <chris_uk[m]> It is OK. Poked around some more and it is sorted. In Audio Connect Port I changed input to system: capture_1 and out to system:playback_1. Copied what was on the US documentation page. Get well!
[20:48] <OvenWerks> chris_uk[m]: thank you, I am having a procedure tomorrow and part of the prep makes one sick. I should be fine when the meds wear off.
[20:48] <chris_uk[m]> Instead of capture_1, there was  1 digit in the input box when I first viewed studio-controls.
[20:48] <OvenWerks> right. That makes sense
[20:49] <OvenWerks> at one time we assumed system:playback_* and so saved it that way
[20:50] <OvenWerks> now we know the user may choose something other than system:*
[20:50] <OvenWerks> so we have to save the actual full port name
[20:50] <sirriffsalot> OvenWerks: aight, thanks for the info :)
[20:50] <OvenWerks> sirriffsalot: no problem
[20:51] <corrinado[m]> Best of luck with your procedure tomorrow
[20:52] <OvenWerks> thanks, one hopes they find nothing.


[09:58] <xivulon> morning cjwatson, tried the latest issue and grub2 still hates me
[09:58] <xivulon> /s/issue/iso/
[09:58] <xivulon> ls (loop0)/etc works
[09:59] <xivulon> ls (loop0)/boot jams everything
[09:59] <xivulon> mounting the root.disk file I cannot see anything peculiar
[09:59] <xivulon> will try later with grub-emu


[09:48] <unix_infidel> Hmm, I guess no one is awake for the meeting :P
[09:50] <Hobbsee> @schedule sydney
[09:50] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Australia/Sydney: Current meeting: Ubuntu Development Team | 03 Jan 07:00: Technical Board | 04 Jan 07:00: Edubuntu | 04 Jan 09:00: Xubuntu | 05 Jan 03:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Jan 02:00: LoCo Team
[09:50] <Hobbsee> or they've forgotten
[09:50] <Hobbsee> will probably start in 10 min
[10:14] <rpereira> Hobbsee: Do you know if the meeting will happen?
[10:14] <Hobbsee> rpereira: no, but i would assume not.  any particular reason why it has to?
[10:14] <rpereira> Hobbsee: Nope. :-)
[10:15] <Hobbsee> most people are on break
[10:15] <rpereira> Hobbsee: You are right.
[08:54] <JanC> @meeting caracas
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> @schedule caracas
[08:55] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Caracas: 02 Jan 16:00: Technical Board | 03 Jan 16:00: Edubuntu | 03 Jan 18:00: Xubuntu | 04 Jan 12:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 Jan 11:00: LoCo Team | 10 Jan 08:00: Edubuntu
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> :)
[08:55] <JanC> right  :)
[09:58] <effie_jayx> @schedule caracas
[09:58] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Caracas: 02 Jan 16:00: Technical Board | 03 Jan 16:00: Edubuntu | 03 Jan 18:00: Xubuntu | 04 Jan 12:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 Jan 11:00: LoCo Team | 10 Jan 08:00: Edubuntu


[06:51] <charl> ohayo gozaimas
[06:59] <Kilos> morning all
[06:59] <Kilos> lo charl
[07:23] <Kilos> Maaz, voda complaints
[07:24] <Kilos> Maaz, hi
[07:24] <Kilos> uh oh
[07:24] <Kilos> gc voda complaints
[07:24] <gc> Kilos: Huh?
[07:25] <Kilos> Maaz, cocooncrash wb
[07:26] <Kilos> Maaz, wb
[07:26] <Maaz> Thank you so much Kilos my good good friend
[07:26] <Maaz> Kilos: Huh?
[07:26] <Kilos> Maaz, voda complaints
[07:26] <Maaz><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:27] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[07:27] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[07:31] <inetpro> Kilos, charl, and others: good mornings
[07:31] <inetpro> Kilos: you are famous
[07:31] <Kilos> why now inetpro  Good morning to you too
[07:31] <inetpro> you helped to kill a bug
[07:32] <Kilos> oh thats good
[07:32] <inetpro> lol
[07:32] <Kilos> is noddy working
[07:32] <inetpro> Kilos: no, I'll upgrade in due time
[07:32] <inetpro> your fix will only be released some time from now
[07:33] <Kilos> lol its easy if youdo the ppa thing
[07:33] <Kilos> what release is noddy on?
[07:34]  * inetpro prefers to have as little ppa stuff as possible
[07:34] <Kilos> its the only ppa i have
[07:35] <Kilos> and dont they only work when you do updates/upgrades?
[07:35] <inetpro> Kilos: lucid 10.04.3 LTS
[07:35] <Kilos> my updates are turned off
[07:35] <Kilos> i have the package here
[07:35] <Kilos> can mail it to you
[07:35] <Kilos> under 1m
[07:35] <inetpro> Kilos: I have no need urgent need for an upgraded version
[07:36] <Kilos> actually it is just for the weather thing
[07:36] <inetpro> Kilos: and if I need it I can downlowad it also
[07:37] <Kilos> but there is more i dont understand
[07:37] <Kilos> why cant i tell my bot traceback
[07:38] <Kilos> qp traceback
[07:38] <QP> Kilos: Huh?
[07:38] <Kilos> see
[07:38] <inetpro> Kilos: traceback is for tracing errors. You have errors?
[07:38] <Kilos> even when it did have it said huh
[07:39] <Kilos> grrr
[07:39] <inetpro> Kilos: I suggest you play with the bot in another channel
[07:39] <Kilos> my bot is supposed to listen to me
[07:39] <Kilos> ya on my channel but it says huh there too
[07:39] <inetpro> to many bots in this channel will result in peeps getting unhappy with all the noise
[07:39] <Kilos> grrr some more
[07:40] <Kilos> yes its not for here man
[07:40] <inetpro> QP: die
[07:40] <QP> inetpro: You're not the boss of me
[07:40] <inetpro> :-)
[07:40] <Kilos> haha
[07:40] <Kilos> qp leave #ubuntu-za
[08:06] <Kilos> hi drussell
[08:07] <drussell> Kilos: heya
[08:10] <Kilos> uh oh net splits
[08:15] <sflr> good morning all!
[08:15] <Kilos> sflr, wb
[08:16] <Kilos> we thought you left the country
[08:16] <sflr> argh, close call. lol. I was off yesterday
[08:17] <Kilos> all ok sflr ?
[08:17] <sflr> yes Kilos. thanks for asking
[08:18] <Kilos> you are our new firestarter so we gotta look after you
[08:24] <sflr> haha. thanks Kilos
[09:34] <Ethiano69> elo
[09:35] <Kilos> hi Ethiano69
[09:36] <Ethiano69> do someone know where i can get an ubuntu CD?
[09:37] <Kilos> Maaz, get ubuntu
[09:37] <Maaz> Kilos: 301 Moved Permanently to http://www.ubuntu.com/, which gets a 200 OK "Home | Ubuntu"
[09:52] <Kilos> is that get ubuntu still correct guys or have i upset that guy now
[09:56] <Kilos> morning superfly
[09:57] <superfly> Hi Kilos
[09:57] <superfly> Kilos: no, get ubuntu is fine
[09:58] <Kilos> yay so he went right place then. coulda said ty the twit
[09:58] <superfly> Kilos: he probably clicked on the link without realising it would redirect his web chat away from here
[09:59] <Kilos> ah shame
[09:59] <superfly> Kilos: he was on our website
[09:59]  * Kilos apologises
[09:59] <Kilos> good at least he can find cds now and hopefully gets ubuntu going
[10:01] <Kilos> oh me twigs he musta been on windows
[10:01] <Kilos> i can click links here and browser opens
[10:03] <Kilos> they lucky there is no popeye at ibid, he would eat spinach
[10:17] <zeref> hrrmmmm
[10:18] <Kilos> hi zeref
[10:18] <zeref> hi Kilos
[10:24] <sflr> Can I get Ubuntu on my Android phone? http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[10:24] <sflr> or that is only for manufacturers :)
[10:25] <Kilos> someone here has done it i think
[10:40] <tumbleweed> sflr: for manufacturers
[10:40] <tumbleweed> but hopefully it'll be open at some point
[10:40] <tumbleweed> if cyanogenmod can support a bunch of popular phones, there's no reason this couldn't too
[10:51] <sflr> thanks tumbleweed. waiting for the day :)
[10:52] <tumbleweed> that's basically the question everyone asks when they see it being demeoed
[10:55] <Kilos> inetpro, plustwo wb
[10:57] <inetpro> Kilos: eh, thanks
[11:13] <Kilos> Maaz, wat eet ons
[11:13] <Maaz> Rys vleis en aartapels
[12:09] <Kilos> charl, do you still have the pastebin link to my curry
[12:24] <magespawn> Howdy, what up?
[12:31] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[12:31] <Kilos> my bot be kiff
[12:31] <magespawn> Cool Kilos
[12:48] <magespawn> What can it do now?
[12:51] <Kilos> it can get pta weather with ease
[12:52] <Kilos> dunno what other bugs have been repaired as well
[12:53] <superfly> Kilos: did you get a newer version of Ibid?
[12:53] <Kilos> yip from tumbles
[12:53] <Kilos> not the tarball
[12:54]  * tumbleweed fixed the daily builds
[12:54] <tumbleweed> although, they are now broken on precise and quantal for another reason...
[12:55] <Kilos> whew never ends hey
[12:55] <tumbleweed> a not entirely unrelated reason
[12:55] <tumbleweed> they were all to do with sqlalchemy 0.6 and later
[12:55] <superfly> tumbleweed: I'll just check out of bzr
[12:56] <tumbleweed> use sqlalchemy 0.5 and you'll be fine
[12:56] <superfly> tumbleweed: renaming of a submodule?
[12:56] <tumbleweed> lack of long-term backwards compatibility
[12:56] <tumbleweed> and we dig our teeth a little two deeply in it
[13:00] <superfly> right
[13:00] <superfly> I remember OpenLP had one or two issues which were easily fixed due to renamed submodules
[13:00] <tumbleweed> 0.6 removed functionality that we depended on
[13:01] <tumbleweed> we've been unabel to figure out how to run the tests that use teh DB since then
[13:02] <superfly> Ah
[13:02] <tumbleweed> we want to delete and re-create teh test DB between tests
[13:02] <tumbleweed> but sqlalchemy doesn't seem to allow us to do that any more
[13:03] <tumbleweed> (owing to our hevay use of declarative, and some reflection)
[13:03] <tumbleweed> *declarative table definitions
[13:07] <charl> Kilos: sorry am away from my laptop most of today
[13:07] <charl> Kilos: no unfortunately i don't have the link anymore
[13:08] <superfly> tumbleweed: no way you could have fudged SQLite's in-memory db stuff to do that?
[13:08] <Kilos> np charl  found it ty
[13:08] <Kilos> made a new one actually
[13:11] <tumbleweed> superfly: if you're interested http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~stefanor/ibid/sqlalchemy-0.6-trunk/view/head:/ibid/test/__init__.py#L85
[13:11] <tumbleweed> I seem to recall there being a good reason why we didn't use an in memory DB
[13:11] <tumbleweed> but I'd need to dig into logs
[13:11] <tumbleweed> anyway, that wouldn't actually help with the problems we ran into
[13:21] <Kilos> yo smile-uitgeslape
[13:22] <charl> l8 all
[13:42] <smile-uitgeslape> hi Kilos :D
[13:43] <Kilos> thats a terribly long nick
[13:48] <Kerbero[dsp]> ek wonder watter betekenis van uitgeslape daai is
[13:48] <Kerbero[dsp]> want ek sien nie smile as 'n baie sneaky persoon nie
[13:48] <Kilos> haha
[13:48] <Kilos> skelm
[13:48] <Kerbero[dsp]> net as iemand wat baie slaap
[13:55] <magespawn> Bbl y'all
[14:03] <Kilos> inetpro, changed some errors thanks to ian
[14:03] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s212wXEpKe
[14:03] <inetpro> huh?
[14:04] <inetpro> Kilos: wat het ek gedoen?
[14:06] <Kilos> sigh
[14:06] <Kilos> i made changes to the curry recipe man . i didnt see the faults
[14:07] <Kilos> he says maybe peeps wont know what imho is
[14:07] <inetpro> hmm... ok
[14:07] <Kilos> then they can ask here
[14:09] <inetpro> Kilos: what you mean with "I dont like using the whole booby traps"?
[14:09] <Kilos> naaltjies
[14:09] <Kilos> het jy ooit een gebyt in kos
[14:09] <smile-uitgeslape> bye! :)
[14:09] <Kilos> cloves
[14:09] <Kilos> bye smile-uitgeslape
[14:12] <inetpro> Kilos: ahh
[14:14] <Kilos> sjoe nou kan dit bly soos dit is booby traps uit
[14:14] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20MzWjMJt
[14:14] <Kilos> en slegte engels herstel
[15:24] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[15:24]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[15:28]  * Ludo is installing ubuntu and "forcing" it upon his parents
[15:28] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[15:29] <Kerbero> Ludo: about the same a what i did
[15:30] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[15:30] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[15:30] <Kilos> lol @ludo
[15:30] <Kilos> my highschool is having a 30 years reunion for 1983 matrics
[15:30] <Kilos> buncha ballies
[15:31] <Kerbero> were you one of them kilos?
[15:31] <Kilos> only 14 years after i left there
[15:31] <Kerbero> haha ok
[15:31] <Kilos> lol
[15:31] <Kerbero> dit maak jou omtrent net so oud soos my pa
[15:31] <Kerbero> :P
[15:31] <Kilos> hoe oud is hy?
[15:32] <Kerbero> ek dog ons noem eerder nie ouderdomme hier nie
[15:32] <Kilos> man ons is nie vrouens nie
[15:32] <Kilos> hulle steek dit weg
[16:42] <Kilos> yo smile
[16:44] <Kilos> hi queery
[16:46] <smile> hi :)
[16:46] <Kilos> what did you achieve today?
[16:47] <Kilos> are you a python expert yet smile ?
[16:50] <queery> hi oom Kilos
[16:59] <smile> Kilos: not yet! :D
[17:00] <smile> outputforscreen = raw_input(answer kilos)
[17:00] <smile> :p
[17:00] <smile> ^^
[17:10] <magespawn> Evening
[17:12] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[17:15] <magespawn> Hey Kilos
[17:15] <magespawn> Kilos what did you do to your bot?
[17:24] <Kilos> did an upgrade
[17:24] <superfly> evening folks
[17:24] <Kilos> but i had to take a lucid package for maverick
[17:24] <Kilos> yo superfly
[17:25] <Kilos> so i downgraded in an upwards direction
[17:26] <Kilos> magespawn, what release have you got
[17:26] <Kilos> natty and lucid are good. dunno if they fixed the later ones yet
[17:26] <magespawn> Not sure 11.04 i think
[17:26] <Kilos> ya thats natty
[17:27] <Kilos> Maaz, ubuntu releases
[17:27] <Maaz> ubuntu releases are 4.10 (Warty Warthog), 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog), 5.10 (Breezy Badger), 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake), 6.10 (Edgy Eft), 7.04 (Feisty Fawn), 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon), 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron), 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex), 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope), 9.10 (Karmic Koala), 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx), 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat), 11.04 (Natty Narwhal), 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot), 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangol
[17:27] <Kilos> no karmic
[17:27]  * superfly always finds the latest version to be the best, but he uses Kubuntu, not Ubuntu
[17:27] <Kilos> ya it is natty
[17:27] <Kilos> lol @ superfly
[17:30] <Kerbero> where can i find portable penguin?
[17:30] <Kilos> must it have handles on
[17:30] <Kerbero> lol ja
[17:30] <Kilos> lol
[17:31] <Kilos> yo Mezenir
[17:31] <Kilos> what you wanna do with a penguin Kerbero
[17:31] <Kerbero> kom ons antwoord dit eerder nie
[17:32] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:33] <Mezenir> hey kilos
[17:33] <Mezenir> and kerbero
[17:33] <Mezenir> how goes
[17:34] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[17:35] <Kilos> aw i forgot to fp last night
[17:44] <Mezenir> good good
[17:45] <Mezenir> same old same old
[17:45] <Mezenir> kerbero doesnt greet it seems
[17:51] <superfly> hi Mezenir
[17:52] <Kilos> superfly, do you also lose logs on #ibid
[17:52] <Kilos> no scroll back feature if you go off?
[17:52] <Mezenir> hey superfly
[17:52] <Mezenir> how goes
[18:09] <superfly> Mezenir: cold, tired, and busy
[18:10] <Mezenir> lol
[18:10] <Mezenir> take a night off ?
[18:17] <magespawn> Hey Mezenir, superfly
[18:19] <Mezenir> hey magespawn
[18:20] <superfly> Mezenir: there's no such thing as a night off from life
[18:20] <Kilos> ai you battling superfly ?
[18:20] <superfly> Kilos: no more than usual
[18:21] <magespawn> Anything in specific superfly?
[18:22] <superfly> magespawn: just too many late nights, a toddler who doesn't go to bed till late either, and lots of work to do on OpenLP before our final release in a few months
[18:23] <magespawn> I am quite lucky my yongest passes out early, it does become easier, the kid part at least.
[18:24] <Kilos> yeah when they get married
[18:24] <Kilos> then they just need money
[18:30] <smile> bye :p
[18:31] <magespawn> Later smile
[18:31] <smile> tot morgen :)
[18:31] <Kilos> cheers smile
[18:31] <Kilos> hmm
[18:44] <magespawn> After 18 or university they are not going to get much from me.
[18:46] <Kilos> haha
[18:55] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:56] <Kilos> gotta try catch up from last night


[02:09] <bazhang> @mark #ubuntu-offtopic * [King_Ozzy] (~King_Ozzy@<IP_ADDRESS>): Ozymandias, king of kings! continual breach of guidelines, o4o after repeated warnings
[02:10] <bazhang> @mark #ubuntu-offtopic  [King_Ozzy] (~King_Ozzy@<IP_ADDRESS>): Ozymandias, king of kings! continual breach of guidelines, o4o after repeated warnings
 how am I supposed to fap at 256kb/s ?
[02:44] <bazhang> who puts /opt on its own partition. that seems like overkill
 OerHeks,  what is the coolest feature about ubuntu
[03:13] <bazhang> augh
[03:35] <Tm_T> bazhang: I do put opt on its own partition when it has to be its own partition... (:
[03:37] <bazhang> Tm_T, you may wish to address noisecounsellor in #kubuntu then
[04:54] <bazhang>  /
[04:55] <Tm_T> aww
[04:57] <Harris> can i have op
[04:57] <elky> no.
[04:57] <Harris> why not
[04:58] <Harris> elky can you ban that frk3232
[04:58] <elky> Because you don't have the experience necessary.
[04:58] <Tm_T> !canibeanop | Harris you don't become an op just by asking
[04:58] <elky> Harris, i did, ages ago. This i how I know you can't be an op.
[04:58] <elky> this is*
[04:58] <Tm_T> (:
[04:59] <Harris> i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note what app can
[05:00] <elky> Harris, this is not a tech support channel.
[05:00] <Harris> still
[05:00] <Harris> please
[05:00] <elky> No.
[05:00] <Harris> i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note what app can
[05:00] <Harris> i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note what app can
[05:00] <Harris> i synced tomboy notes with my desktop and i double clicked on it on the desktop and it said no applications can oppen note what app can
[05:00] <elky> What moon phase are we at?
[05:01] <Tm_T> full moon in 3 days
[05:01] <Unit193> Wow...
[05:04] <bazhang> he's been asking some very weird questions in #ubuntu of late
[05:04] <bazhang> how to make fake password/user
[05:05] <bazhang> he just wont drop the who is an op thing though
[05:06] <elky> Can you just imagine if he _was_ one?
[05:06] <Tm_T> yes
[05:06] <bazhang> #ubuntu :  1 user , 1op
[05:07] <elky> Maybe we should make him an op in -ot
[05:07] <bazhang> elky, thats too evil
[05:07] <elky> bazhang, i am.
[05:07] <Tm_T> ...what's the emergency now?
[05:07] <bazhang> Tm_T, nothing is ever that bad
[05:08] <elky> Harris, as you can see, your ban here is lifted. There is also no emergency.
[05:08] <elky> I don't even...
[05:08] <Tm_T> elky: don't worry, it's just fourth monday in this week
[05:09] <elky> fifth for me.
[05:09] <bobby> can you ban <frk3232>
[05:10] <Tm_T> Harris: already dealt with
[05:10] <bobby> who is harris
[05:11] <elky> That was short lived.
[05:13] <bazhang> yikes he's lost it
[05:14] <elky> I'm not sure he ever had 'it"
[05:15] <elky> Shall we see if he auto-joins here if i unban?
[05:15] <bazhang> ok
[06:09] <bazhang> backtrack uses lucid and squeeze repos? whoa
[09:08] <oCean> suborbital: what part of this message was not clear to you "suborbital: the topic of this channel is ubuntu technical support"
[09:09] <suborbital> sounds familiar - can i get back to you?
[09:09] <suborbital> or is that forbidden too?
[09:09] <oCean> suborbital: sorry?
[09:10] <oCean> suborbital: if you are not looking to resolve the current mute, then there is no reason to idle here in the channel
[09:10] <suborbital> acutally i am here for that
[09:11] <suborbital> word on the grapevine not too many people like you.
[09:11] <oCean> so?
[09:11] <suborbital> i thought it was funny.
[09:11] <oCean> suborbital: it seems you are not here to resolve, so please leave the channel
[09:11] <suborbital> no i have every intention to make peace with you.
[09:11] <oCean> you had a bad start in trying
[09:12] <oCean> so, have a time-out and come back in a couple of days
[09:12] <suborbital> to?
[09:12] <suborbital> oh yea thats right you forgot
[09:13] <oCean> bantrackers shows this was clearly not your first warning, so changing it back to a ban
[09:13] <oCean> suborbital: bye
[09:13] <suborbital> yea bye.
[09:14] <suborbital> good luck with that btw
[09:14] <suborbital> you failed to see how *big* this ocean really *is*
[09:14] <ikonia> suborbital: done ?
[09:18] <suborbital> ok your bot said "i dont know anytrhing about busta rhymes."
[09:19] <suborbital> i have a legitimate arguement now.
[09:19] <Tm_T> I like when they're clear with their intentions
[09:20] <ikonia> I notice he's not trying anything like this in the #archlinux channel
[09:20] <Tm_T> or #f
[09:58] <ikonia> King_Ozzy: I assume you want to know why I've asked you to stop
[09:58] <King_Ozzy> I really don't care to hear the explanation of your obsessiveness about IRC :-)
[09:58] <ikonia> ok, then why are you in this channel ?
[09:58] <King_Ozzy> just because?
[09:59] <ikonia> there is a no idle policy in this channel, so if you don't need anything, please /part
[09:59] <King_Ozzy> so there's no policy either way on idling?
[09:59] <ikonia> there is a policy of not idling
[10:00] <ikonia> !idle | King_Ozzy
[10:00] <ikonia> King_Ozzy: so if you don't need/want anything from the ops team, please /part
[11:35] <elky> Who aren't? If only he knew.
[11:38] <Pici> thanks elky
[12:26] <ikonia> seems to be a lot of people from #archlinux again being a bit odd
[12:27] <Pici> ikonia: where?
[12:27] <ikonia> well, king_ozzy for one, then henrytrollins and a few other "minor" warnings
[12:33] <elky> someone with the word "trollins" in their nick was a problem? Get outta here.
[12:34] <ikonia> he wasn';t a problem
[12:34] <ikonia> however suspect
[12:48] <topyli> do all arch people have nicks like that?
[12:48] <knome> elky, any reason you're still @
[12:48] <topyli> pelvis_freshley. smelly_killtwister
[12:48] <knome> Tm_T
[12:48]  * knome hides
[12:48] <topyli> hah
[12:53] <ikonia> 3:53 -!- directX<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[12:53] <ikonia> $1000000000,00000000 says this guy is up to no good
[12:54] <Pici> why?
[12:54] <ikonia> dunno, rings a bell
[12:54] <Pici> kk :)
[12:54] <ikonia> I could of course be wrong and I'll be skint
[12:55] <topyli> i'm tempted to take that bet, but i'd hate to lose
[12:55] <ikonia> I'm almost bluffing that no-one would take it....so I don't lose
[12:56] <ikonia> seems to be wanting to run some sort of wifi hacking script ?
[12:56] <Pici> yep
[12:56] <ikonia> does that count as a "win" on my bet ?
[12:56] <Pici> ikonia: I think it does.
[12:57] <ikonia> oh dear
[12:57] <topyli> still depends on what it's for. maybe it's for research purposes, to be used on their own network
[12:57] <topyli> i want to believe!
[12:58] <Pici> The truth is out there.
[12:58] <ikonia> ahhhm, he wants to crack a wep password, I wonder if this is research :)
[12:58] <knome> it's not, cracking wep password is not cracking ;)
[12:59] <topyli> it's certainly not research. i'm sure gord's cat knows how to crack a wep key
[13:01] <knome> yeah. put it under your paw and smack
[13:02] <topyli> this still makes me smile. http://blog.rlove.org/2006/05/i-do-not-like-your-couch.html
[13:02] <Pici> heh
[13:02] <knome> heh
[13:03] <knome> http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k497/animalsbeingdicks/abd-255.gif <- cracking a "wep key"
[13:10] <topyli> "encouragement"
[13:11] <knome> m-hmm:)
[13:45] <ikonia> 4:45 -!- molcy<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[13:45] <ikonia> oh dear
[13:46] <bioterror> sounds like mcloy :D
[13:46] <ikonia> well, based on the real name titus which I saw one of the other nicks use, I'd assume so too
[13:46] <bioterror> Fri16:46  weechat :: [<IP_ADDRESS>] United Arab Emirates (AE)
[13:46] <ikonia> plus the fact that he joined/left straight away
[13:46] <bioterror> mcloy was from pakistan
[13:47] <ikonia> bioterror: yes
[13:47] <bioterror> probably a proxy or shell
[13:47] <ikonia> most likley
[13:47] <ikonia> just having a little look
[13:47] <ikonia> I know LjL has a nice script that checks
 I AM PISSED
[16:21] <oCean> continues in #lubuntu
[16:22] <oCean> after I removed him from #u
[16:23] <jussi> I miss Gary, where is Gary? :/
[17:07] <knome> gary who?
[17:13] <jussi> knome: Gary... points to nicklist...
[17:18] <knome> gary moore?
[18:55] <ea1het> good evening
[18:55] <ea1het> any op that can help me with a doubt?
[18:56] <ea1het> i would like to joing ubuntu-cloud but it requires invite....
[18:56] <ea1het> any one who can invite, please?
[18:57] <jussi> ea1het: it forwards to #ubuntu-server and I guess you are there already
[18:59] <ea1het> oh thanks for the information jussi
[19:00] <jussi> ea1het: aything else you need (theres a no idle policy here, thats all)
[19:00] <jussi> ?
[19:01] <ea1het> jussi: nothing else... thanks!!!!
[19:01] <ea1het> bye bye!