[00:00] <Guest12947> I tried to... but have to admit I've forgotten most of my IRC skills from a decade ago.
[00:00] <w30> Guest12947, #samba irc is a good place
[00:00] <mbrigdan> Hey, I'm trying to make sshd use a different directory for authorized_keys, but it won't change no matter what I do. Anyone know what could be going on?
[00:00] <Dr_Willis>  /nick  I_am_Old_Skool_leet :)
[00:01] <Guest12947> Thank you w30!
[00:01] <Guest12947> Thanks for that Dr_Willis!
[00:01] <sandkeydude> :)
[00:01] <urlin2u> ansak-onepost, so you want to use grub2 in the install in  sdc2?
[00:01] <ejv> i find it hard to believe you could forget /nick :p
[00:01] <quellhorst> how could i upgrade ubuntu 8.04 that is running on some "turnkey linux"?
[00:02] <japan> how to delete folder with permissions
[00:02] <sandkeydude> It seems I'm becoming gifted at forgetting things I don't use as I get older!   ;)
[00:02] <ejv> japan, sudo ?
[00:02] <japan> i dont know howwww
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> japan:  clarify a bit more...   sudo rmdir foodir   is one way
[00:02] <ansak-onepost> urlin2, 1st I want there to be a grub on sda that still points to sda1 so I can keep working from my CentOS system as I migrate away from it.
[00:02] <ejv> japan: sudo rmdir <directory>
[00:02] <quellhorst> when i do sudo do-release-upgrade ; i get: https://gist.github.com/3c2dff2e98a31b8224d3
[00:02]  * w30 has CRS
[00:02] <ejv> japan: or better yet, `man rmdir`
[00:02] <ansak-onepost> urlin2, 2 I want there to be a grub on sdc that points to sdc1 and runs ubuntu
[00:03] <ansak-onepost> urlin2, for now... I am open to being told what The Right Way is.
[00:03] <japan> i tried rm -rf /opt/lampp but it doesnt work
[00:03] <mbrigdan> Hey, I'm trying to make sshd use a different directory for authorized_keys, but it won't change no matter what I do. Anyone know what could be going on?
[00:03] <ejv> japan: put a sudo in front of it
[00:04] <ansak-onepost> urlin2, for now, I still have a bunch of gotta-do-this-now stuff on the CentOS partition that I mean to migrate away from.
[00:04] <japan> ok tnx very much
[00:04] <ansak-onepost> urlin2, long time user, just not heavy-duty distro-switcher.
[00:04] <wilder> Anybody use playonlinux? I'm having trouble with an install
[00:04] <urlin2u> ansak-onepost, you don't need a boot partition, as the script read grub is in the sdc mbr and points at that sdc1, can the sdc be moved to the first read in the bios.
[00:04] <ejv> wilder: does this look like #playonlinux ?
[00:05] <ejv> :p
[00:05] <wilder> It does not.
[00:05] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, sdc becoming first: yes, that's what I want to do eventually.
[00:05] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, actually what you're seeing in that pastebin is not the original results.
[00:05] <ejv> what is playonlinux wildbat ?
[00:05] <ejv> wilder*
[00:05] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, let me paste that one up, too and explain a bit more of what I've seen.
[00:06] <zykotick9> ejv, it's a frontend to wine
[00:06] <japan> i also installed php 5 mysql etc etc and i wanna delete it but i dont know where is it
[00:06] <ejv> did he leave, found a forums link for him
[00:06] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/672018/ (or is it better etiquette to just say "672018"?)
[00:07] <ejv> ansak-onepost: full link is fine :p
[00:07] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u latest paste is how I found things; sda spins up, reads mbr, boots narwhal off of sdc
[00:07] <urlin2u> ansak-onepost, so this is a accurate as is of it now?
[00:07] <ejv> japan: i'd use the package manager to remove any libraries/software you no longer want
[00:07] <ejv> japan: eg `apt-get remove <package>`
[00:08] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, 2nd pastebin is how it was, 1st pastebin is after i made one change which did not have the desired effect.
[00:08] <urlin2u> ansak-onepost, we only want a script of what ity reads now, and any changes may need a new script run.
[00:08] <PythonSnake> Hello
[00:09] <urlin2u> ansak-onepost, put the sdc in the first read in the bios, the first script shows if possibly booting.
[00:09] <urlin2u> if=it
[00:09] <drag0nz> zykotick9, thanks dude
[00:09] <drag0nz> for the info
[00:09] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/672007/ is how things are _now_
[00:10] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, If I try to boot off of sdc (BIOS select boot device), I get a blank screen
[00:10] <Aple> Eh, fuck Sublime :)
[00:10] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, If I allow BIOS to boot off of default first device (sda), it boots narwhal off of sdc
[00:11] <urlin2u> ansak-onepost, you don't need the boot partition sdc2 will boot as is.
[00:11] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, okay. but I want to be able to choose to boot from CentOS on sda OR narwhal on sdc.
[00:12] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, are you saying that what I should do is add more grub-goo to the /boot on sdc1 and then I could accomplish this from menu choices?
[00:13] <laserbled> Hi, any one using celestia here - need some help - I would like to know how can I set the recording resolution and codec in that
[00:13] <urlin2u> ansak-onepost, hold on I will give you the commands in a pastebin ti be run from a live cd.
[00:13] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, most kind
[00:13] <mbrigdan> Hey, I'm trying to make sshd use a different directory for authorized_keys, but it won't change no matter what I do. Anyone know what could be going on?
[00:14] <tomodachi> mbrigdan: just curious why would you want that?
[00:14] <shygirl214> I have a question
[00:14] <mbrigdan> tomodachi, the default doesn't work if your home directory is encrypted
[00:14] <ejv> mbrigdan: you changed the path in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and restarted the service?
[00:14] <Aple> Is there anyway to delete a dir and everything in it all at once?
[00:14] <shygirl214> im trying to surprise my boyfriend and convert a bunch of wma to mp3
[00:15] <mbrigdan> ejv, Yeah, and other changes I made (as a test) took effect. But it won't let me login unless I have my key in the default directory
[00:15] <EDinNY> trying to rip a CD to mp3...suggestions?
[00:15] <w30> Aple, rm -R
[00:15] <EDinNY> ripperX does not encode...am I missing a lib?
[00:15] <Aple> w30: Thanks
[00:16] <ejv> EDinNY: banshee does it if im not mistaken
[00:16] <ejv> EDinNY: http://banshee.fm/support/guide/audio-cds/
[00:16] <shygirl214> any suggestions on converting wma to mp3
[00:16] <w30> Aple, *smile* man rm is your friend
[00:16] <spacebug-> EDinNY: cdparanoia
[00:17] <shygirl214> they are scattered through out his music folder
[00:17] <Aple> Ah, so that's what man pages are
[00:17] <japan> xamp is in my download folder, when i try to sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.5a.tar.gz -C /opt      it tell me that there is not such file or directory
[00:17] <Aple> Sweet :)
[00:17] <ejv> im sure amarok and rythmbox also support some form of 'ripping'
[00:17] <szal> spacebug-: to my knowledge cdparanoia only rips but doesn't encode
[00:17] <EDinNY> is cdparanoia from command line?
[00:17] <Aple> w40: I'm an Ubuntu newb in case you haven't noticed. *shows off his feathers*
[00:17] <w30> Aple, if you don't want to answer all the questions then -Rf
[00:17] <spacebug-> szal: no well, that is a second stage
[00:17] <spacebug-> EDinNY: yes
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> man = manual :)
[00:18] <Aple> nonono, I gotcha
[00:18] <Aple> man pages = sweet.
[00:18] <EDinNY> is banshee from command line?
[00:18] <japan> where to put xampp to sudo tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.5.5a.tar.gz -C /opt work ?
[00:18] <ejv> did shygirl leave already?
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> It pays to read docs and tutorials. :) - i used to have a Huge THICK book that was the man pages printed out. ages ago
[00:18] <urlin2u> ansak-onepost, so sdc2 is Natty and you have a Natty cd correct?
[00:18] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, yes
[00:19] <rww> japan: xampp is not supported in this channel. Use Ubuntu's packages instead.
[00:19] <Quantum_Ion> I wish I code encode MP3 and WAVS to CD format and burn them too I don't know how to do that
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> japan:  we really dont support xampp here.. theres the lamp stack in the repos.
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> !xampp | japan
[00:19] <japan> this is no about xampp , xampp is just banal example
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> Quantum_Ion:  the k3b burner app - makes it rather trivial to  make audio cds. once you install it and the right plugins. There prob. some gnome equiliv also.
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> japan:  id just cd to where you want it to go.. and extract the archive
[00:20] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, and sda1 is /boot to sda2 which is LVM containing CentOS5 that I still need to use
[00:20] <japan> where file shoud be to install it in that way
[00:20] <japan> it says acess is dained
[00:20] <w30> Dr_Willis, yeah, electronic data is fine but with a paper book you don't have to boot it up.
[00:20] <urlin2u> ansak-onepost, notice the fdisk -l command to confirm that on the live cd the partitions are showing the same sdc2 or if different, adjust accordingly. http://paste.ubuntu.com/672028/
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> cd  /opt  && unp /path/to/the/archive  :)
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> w30:  plus you can read it while sitting in the err... reading room every morning. :)
[00:21] <Quantum_Ion> Dr_Willis, Hmmm I have that installed and I have never used the application, might give it a try, thanks
[00:21] <ejv> if shygirl comes back, tell her to be more patient next time
[00:21] <Guest71158> how to expand the harddisk space in ubuntu? i have zero space left?
[00:21] <urlin2u> ansak-onepost, grub2 will rad CentOS, you need sdc2 as the bootpartition, not sdc1
[00:21] <Guest71158> i need to make the partition bigger
[00:21] <japan> this is the answer tnx dude,
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> Guest71158:  you can resize partiions with gparted.  if you got other space to put in it..
[00:21] <Quantum_Ion> ejv, Now you know the reason she is called shygirl
[00:21] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, ? s/rad/read/?
[00:21] <Guest71158> so i have to download gparted ?
[00:21] <ejv> EDinNY: banshee is a gui app, do you need command line only?
[00:22] <urlin2u> ansak-onepost, rad=read
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> Guest71158:  depends. you are resizeing your / partition? if so you may want to use a live cd.. or the gparted live cd.
[00:22] <urlin2u> ansak-onepost, read the link carefully and follow as it is.
[00:22] <ejv> Quantum_Ion: indeed
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> Guest71158:  you do NOT resize a partition/fs thats in use. :)
[00:22] <Guest71158> how do i boot thel ive cd
[00:22] <Guest71158> i want to resize the partition of ubuntu
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> Guest71158:  put cd in.. power up...
[00:22] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, reading carefully... will print out and ponder.
[00:22] <Dr_Willis> gparted is on the default desktop live cd i think.
[00:23] <ansak-onepost> urlin2u, thanks for the help; will come back if there are problems :)
[00:25] <Guest71158> Dr_Willis it wment to the gnome login screen
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> Guest71158:   be  bit more verbose in your statements..   the live cd autologs in - if it booted correctly. or did it just boot your normal install.....
[00:26] <Guest71158> do i choose recvoery mode?
[00:26] <Guest71158> it's GNU GRUB
[00:29] <Aple> What's a pretty/decent IDE for Ubuntu?
[00:29] <Aple> vim is a bit too ugly/obtrusive for my tastes
[00:29] <deeptrouble2> :))
[00:30] <deeptrouble2> vim rocks !
[00:30] <qin> Aple: gvim?
[00:30] <Aple> nono, they're both so ugly and I'm kinda sick of learning their commands
[00:30]  * Aple awaits his execution
[00:30] <deeptrouble2> :)
[00:30] <deeptrouble2> eclipse then
[00:30] <Aple> :) I'd just like a decent little editor that looks decent and doesn't flip me out
[00:30] <deeptrouble2> slow as hell but works
[00:30] <Desyncify> Hello, I accidentally removed my username from the panel up top, and it also removed the power button from top where I shutdown or restart, and my wifi icon, how do I get those back?
[00:31] <qin> Aple: kate
[00:31] <Aple> See, that's the other stipulation, Eclipse loads so slow, screw that
[00:31] <Aple> kate eh?
[00:31] <haha> Desyncify right click on panel
[00:31] <w30> Aple, command editor that I use is pico or lately nano
[00:32] <Desyncify> I right clicked and went to add to panel, but don't see my wifi or anything like that
[00:32] <w30> Aple, you can just apt-get install nano
[00:32] <deeptrouble2> Aple: give vim a chance .. once u learn the commands no going back..
[00:32] <deeptrouble2> been that way for past 10 years...
[00:33]  * defunkt agrees with deem
[00:33] <defunkt> deeptrouble**
[00:33] <defunkt> sorry
[00:33] <qin> deeptrouble2: Yes, there is- :u
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> i stupidify windows users when they watch me edit files in vim.... :)
[00:34] <deeptrouble2> :)
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> mad vim skillz
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> so i then let them try vigor.  or 'cream'
[00:34] <deeptrouble2> Vigor ?
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> !info vigor
[00:35] <robbie> wat
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> it has a paperclip 'helper' like that MS WORD thing. :)
[00:35] <deeptrouble2> lol :))
[00:35] <ejv> man i loved the einstein guy, if you cliked him enough times, he's make an explosion
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> now cream is really interesting.
[00:35] <ejv> he'd*
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> !info cream
[00:36] <robbie> I love cream.
[00:36] <robbie> On coffee
[00:36] <jackoriper> im using ubuntu 10.10, winxp.vdi of hp laptop is not working on sony vaio laptop,  initial vbox screen is repeating as windows loading screen is coming ...
[00:36] <ugarte> surely you mean IN coffee
[00:36] <jo-erlend_> I
[00:37] <robbie> Yes.
[00:37] <robbie> In coffee
[00:37] <w30> thick coffee
[00:37] <haha> DEsyncify: go to System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications and check if network manager is there.if it is try to reboot....
[00:37] <jo-erlend_> I spilled coffee on my keyboard, and now I can''t login anymore. How do I deactivate password login from an ssh session?
[00:37] <robbie> You take your laptop apart and clean that crap out.
[00:37] <deeptrouble2> jo-erlend_: push ssh keys
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> jo-erlend_:  you an edit the  gdm configs to enable auto logging in.. but then what. :)
[00:37] <JoeR1> I have never really used git before and I just used it to get a program that I cannot find and does not respond to a terminal command of its name, am I perhaps missing a step that is needed when using git?
[00:38] <jo-erlend_> deeptrouble2, I'm talking about gdm.
[00:38] <qin> jo-erlend_: gdmsetup (sudo)
[00:38] <jo-erlend_> Dr_Willis, then I can watch movies and such until I get a new keyboard. :)
[00:38] <Dr_Willis>  /etc/gdm/gdm.conf* files
[00:39] <robbie> I thought it was /etc/gdm/Init/Default?
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> or use ssh X forwarding to run the gdm config app and enale it there, :)
[00:39] <JoeR1> Nevermind, I just figured it out
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> /etc/gdm$ cat custom.conf
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> automaticlogin = None
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> im on 10.10 right now. so it may differ in 11.*
[00:40] <robbie> I'm still using 10.10, tried 11.04.... nope
[00:40] <robbie> Immediately downgraded back.
[00:42] <jo-erlend_> Dr_Willis, using x-forwarding to do that, seems nice. But how do I do it?
[00:42] <qin> jo-erlend_: gdmsetup
[00:43] <jo-erlend_> qin, I need to ssh in as a normal user and run gdmsetup as root. How?
[00:43] <qin> jo-erlend_: No, you will have "unlock" button
[00:43] <jo-erlend_> I thought I could do ssh -x user@host sudo gdmsetup, but that doesn't work.
[00:43] <jo-erlend_> oh.
[00:43] <qin> jo-erlend_: Your user need to be sudoer.
[00:44] <jo-erlend_> qin, hmm. Then... Shouldn't it be ssh -x host gdmsetup?
[00:45] <qin> jo-erlend_: Lets stert over, do you have Xforwarding enabled, use -Y switch insead of -X and try "gedit"
[00:46] <jo-erlend_> qin, I don't understand that message.
[00:46] <qin> jo-erlend_: ssh to your desktop, and run gedit
[00:46] <jo-erlend_> you mean ssh -Y host?
[00:47] <Blue1> qin: this might help:  http://pkill-9.com/getting-x-windows-to-work-over-an-ssh-connection/
[00:47] <jo-erlend_> qin, I don't have ssh forwarding enabled, it seems. I need to use xhost or something then?
[00:47] <qin> jo-erlend_: Either -Y or -X (-Y is trusted, and is enabled on Ubuntu)
[00:47] <Aple> bleh, I'll give vim a chance once I learn Django
[00:47] <jo-erlend_> I have't done this in many, many years.
[00:48] <qin> jo-erlend_: So edit file Dr_Willis gave you.]
[00:48] <jo-erlend_> that file doesn't exist.
[00:49] <jo-erlend_> but I'd like to enable ssh forwarding in any case. But since it isn't allowed, I need to make it allowed somehow.
[00:49] <Aple> gedit looks nice
[00:49] <tony_> wrr
[00:49] <tony_> ?
[00:49] <tony_> nvr mnd
[00:49] <kavurt> http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM1344E.PDF i can't open this pdf. how can i install adobe reader 64bit?
[00:49] <koud> hello people, I need help with strange problem. I have set up pptp server and I got it working with clients connecting, but when those clients try to browse some homepages only google works. no other site
[00:49] <qin> jo-erlend_: sudo vim /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[00:49] <koud> but I can ping other sites
[00:50] <KM0201> kavurt: i just opened it in adobe reader (32bit) and it's not working
[00:50] <aadsdas8> I have a problem: my laptop is overheating
[00:50] <jo-erlend_> qin, hmm? I thought I'd have to use xhost or something?
[00:50] <aadsdas8> and fan is making a lot of noise lol
[00:51] <KM0201> aadsdas8: that sounds like a hardware issue..
[00:51] <KM0201> does the noise/problem stop when you boot windows?
[00:51] <aadsdas8> it's new
[00:51] <aadsdas8> yes
[00:51] <KM0201> aadsdas8: new laptops ship w/ problems also.
[00:51] <aadsdas8> KM0201: in windblowz it doesnt make noise
[00:51] <qin> jo-erlend_: line: X11Forwarding yes
[00:51] <KM0201> aadsdas8: dunnno, sounds like you got somethin going on there.
[00:52] <jo-erlend_> qin, on the server?
[00:52] <aadsdas8> KM0201: thats vague
[00:52] <qin> jo-erlend_: Yes
[00:52] <KM0201> aadsdas8: well, you gave a vague explanation of the probl_em.
[00:53] <KM0201> aadsdas8: what model laptop?
[00:53] <jo-erlend_> qin, I'
[00:53] <aadsdas8> KM0201: toshiba satellite l650
[00:53] <jo-erlend_> qin, I'm still getting error messages that authentication is wrong and that display can't be opened.
[00:53] <KM0201> kavurt: i just installed adobe acro-reader 9, and that document opened up no problem
[00:54] <aadsdas8> toshiba tools dont work with the kernel n1 ubuntu
[00:54] <jo-erlend_> qin, are you sure X doesn't have to be configured to allow external connections?
[00:54] <aadsdas8> required kernel toshiba support not enabled.
[00:54] <qin> jo-erlend_: Never have to do it in ubuntu.
[00:54] <kavurt> KM0201: is there 64 bit available? i tried to install 32bit, but it said wrong structure or something
[00:55] <jo-erlend_> qin, ok, so tell me what I need to do? I've added that line. How do I proceed?
[00:55] <qin> jo-erlend_: On client: ForwardX11 yes ForwardX11Trusted yes
[00:55] <KM0201> kavurt: i'm honestly not sure...
[00:55] <KM0201> kavurt: can I PM you.?.. i might have a simple solution for you.
[00:55] <aadsdas8> it's like fan is at full speed all the time
[00:55] <jo-erlend_> qin, which file?
[00:55] <kavurt> KM0201: sure thanks
[00:55] <qin> jo-erlend_: Make sure that you do not have dupes in configs. Client /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[00:55] <MK``> Whenever I create a drawer on gnome panel and put something into it, and then restart, the drawer no longer works. It doesn't expand or anything. I am using 11.04 with  gnome 2, has anyone else had this problem or know how to fix it?
[00:56] <zykotick9> kavurt, if you have the 32bit deb you can install it using "sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture ADBOBE_BLAH.deb"
[00:56] <jo-erlend_> qin, and those are two lines, yes?
[00:56] <qin> jo-erlend_: Yes
[00:56] <pedro> Caramba!
[00:56] <qin> and on server: sudo service ssh restart
[00:56] <kavurt> zykotick9: thanks, i'll try it
[00:57] <zykotick9> kavurt, you need it ia32-libs for that to work BTW
[00:57] <zykotick9> s/it/the/
[00:58] <aadsdas8> fan is running very fast
[00:58] <jo-erlend_> qin, I'm still not allowed.
[01:00] <kingofswords>  hi if i played a game with wine where would my gamesaves be?
[01:00] <aadsdas8> why Ubuntu Natty doesnt support toshiba tools
[01:00] <qin> jo-erlend_: hm, cat you ssh -Y -vvv and run gedit?
[01:00] <meth3> how do i get rid of this envelop icon in the systray ?
[01:00] <KM0201> aadsdas8: i thnk the bigger questino, is why doesn't toshiba have toshiba tools for linux.. you're blaming the wrong party
[01:01] <pford> hey
[01:01] <dageriv> i just dicovered something awsome i want to share with you. if firefox wont install .xpi because incompatible; you can edit the max version in install.rdf, and it could work! i did this with moonlight
[01:01] <zykotick9> kingofswords, depends on the game but check in the ~/.wine directory somewhere
[01:01] <pford> hy
[01:01] <pford> hey
[01:01] <jo-erlend_> qin, no. I'm not allowed. /usr/bin/xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/jo-erlend/.Xauthority X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[01:01] <aadsdas8> KM0201: I installed toshiba tools from repositorie.s.
[01:01] <kingofswords> zykotick9, yeh i know ...im having trouble locating 'my documents' in wine..thats where gamessaves are normally
[01:01] <qin> jo-erlend_: You do not have .Xauthority, do you?
[01:02] <aadsdas8> KM0201: it doesnt work with this kernel
[01:02] <jo-erlend_> qin, yes. It belongs to root.
[01:02] <zykotick9> jo-erlend_, you could try "xhost +" to disable all security (as a test)
[01:02] <qin> jo-erlend_: In your ~
[01:02] <KM0201> aadsdas8: then that still isn't ubuntu's problem, toshiba needs to do a better job of making sure their package works w/ all kernels
[01:02] <aadsdas8> hm i think it's a ubuntu problem
[01:02] <jo-erlend_> zykotick9, cannot open display.
[01:02] <aadsdas8> one more problem
[01:02] <ryan_46> aadsdas8:  reinstall or switch OS. ???
[01:03] <aadsdas8> yeah im gonna back to windows just because of fan
[01:03] <aadsdas8> --
[01:03] <jo-erlend_> qin, yes, I have that file in my home and it belongs to root.
[01:03] <KM0201> aadsdas8: actually, that would be pretty smart, a bad fan will brick a laptop very very quickly.
[01:04] <qin> jo-erlend_: ~/.Xauthority in not a root file, any way what permissions it has?
[01:04] <KM0201> aadsdas8: did you configure toshiba tools?
[01:04] <jo-erlend_> qin, but what would be much better, if it's possible, is if I can log in from the laptop using ssh and then run the applications on the servers monitor.
[01:04] <jo-erlend_> qin, 700.
[01:04] <Aple> How can I share an external hard drive between Ubuntu machines on a Windows network? :)
[01:04] <aadsdas8> KM0201: the fan is working correctly as seen in windows 7. it is not working correctly in ubuntu 11.04. conclusion: it's ubuntu fault
[01:05] <KM0201> aadsdas8: i'm not gonna talk to someone who has drawn such a dense conclusion, but... ok.
[01:05] <qin> jo-erlend_: So you want vnc, for remote control.
[01:05] <aadsdas8> KM0201: lack of arguments but ok
[01:05] <aadsdas8> if you dont know how to help me just dont talk to me tks
[01:05] <KM0201> aadsdas8: no, the argument is, you don't know how to read, did you read this little tidbit ont hat package...  Note that these utilities work with APM features in the Toshiba BIOS.
[01:05] <KM0201> If your laptop's BIOS only supports ACPI and not APM, then toshutils will
[01:05] <KM0201> probably not work for you. Toshiba's newer models tend to support ACPI
[01:05] <KM0201> only, and therefore toshutils will not work with them.Note that these utilities work with APM features in the Toshiba BIOS.
[01:05] <KM0201> If your laptop's BIOS only supports ACPI and not APM, then toshutils will
[01:05] <KM0201> probably not work for you.  Now what?
[01:11] <RPG-Master> Anyone here using a good usb 3 card?
[01:11] <RPG-Master> PCI Express card
[01:12] <qin> jo-erlend_: Interesting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RemoteXHowTo says: ln -s $XAUTHORITY ${HOME}/.Xauthority
[01:12] <aadsdas8> lol #ubuntu-sucks was moved
[01:13] <jo-erlend_> qin, that's for Breezy though.  If I could only activate automatic login, then everything would be fine.
[01:13] <hatch> I can't seam to get apache2 to parse htaccess files is there any trick to it with 10.04 ?
[01:14] <jo-erlend_> hatch, #ubuntu-server
[01:14] <hatch> jo-erlend_: thanks
[01:14] <scythefwd> anyone have any experience with BURG?
[01:14] <urlin2u> scythefwd, yes
[01:14] <koud> hello people, I need help with strange problem. I have set up pptp server and I got it working with clients connecting, but when those clients try to browse some homepages only google works. no other site
[01:15] <scythefwd> urlin, where did you install it from and did the .deb's tell you there was something wrong with them, eg. using the wrong guid
[01:15] <qin> jo-erlend_: Hm, cannot find autologin option in gdm configs... is it 11.04?
[01:16] <urlin2u> scythefwd, mine is installed via a ppa I believe, as part of a multiboot usb
[01:16] <RPG-Master> According to the Ubuntu certified page, any card using the uPD720200 chipset will work perfect.
[01:17] <jo-erlend_> qin, I found it. I needed to make /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add a couple of lines.
[01:17] <ubuntu_sucks> it true when they say it
[01:18] <qin> jo-erlend_: Yes, AutomaticLoginEnable=true and line for user. Did not know what it goes to Default.
[01:18] <jo-erlend_> ubuntu_sucks, go away please.
[01:18] <ubuntu_sucks> ?
[01:18] <urlin2u> scythefwd, Natty?  http://ubuntu-install.blogspot.com/2011/05/beautiful-burg-boot-loader-gets-ubuntu.html
[01:19] <scythefwd> urlin - yeah, natty... I already have it installed... I just thought the messages that popped up were odd.
[01:19] <urlin2u> scythefwd, have you installed it to the mbr?
[01:21] <scythefwd> urlin - yeah, come to think of it, it wasn't burg itself that threw up the warning, it was burg-manager and buc
[01:21] <scythefwd> urlin - it was all guid based errors that I saw, not that the package failed.  Works fine with my win7 and ubuntu entries
[01:22] <kingofswords> how can i upgrade xorg?
[01:22] <urlin2u> scythefwd, you will have to be more clear if you have a problem, including the erorrs in a pastebim=n with all the text.
[01:23] <ubuntu_sucks> it doesnt even show the RPM
[01:23] <ubuntu_sucks> haha
[01:23] <urlin2u> !ot | ubuntu_sucks
[01:24] <ubuntu_sucks> it's not offtopic
[01:24] <ubuntu_sucks> it's related with ubuntu
[01:24] <urlin2u> ubuntu_sucks, Ubuntu-related support questions
[01:24] <ubuntu_sucks> ?
[01:25] <scythefwd> urlin - don't sweat it... it's working.
[01:25] <urlin2u> scythefwd, cool. ;-)
[01:25] <kingofswords> if i upgrade to 10.10 will i have to re-do all my compiz settings and cairo dock/
[01:26] <urlin2u> kingofswords, plan on doing so.
[01:27] <kingofswords> urlin2u, im need xorg 1.8 so upgrade seems simplist way
[01:27] <kingofswords> does the upgrade take long/alot of dl?
[01:27] <eross> i installed ubuntu server 64 bit on virtual box, the dhcp works but when I set up as static, I can't ping my router or the internet.. in /etc/network/interfaces.  networkmanager is not installed
[01:27] <scythefwd> urlin - I'm familiar enough with linux to truely break things (about as familiar with it as I am with spelling  <- )  It was just a popup that asked me to ignore and install when I tried to install BUC.  I'd hav eto remove burg-manager to re-install buc and it ain't worth my time
[01:28] <WallyJ2K> So when I try to active my VGA output to have its own resolution, the monitor prefs window says "requested position size for CRTC 80 is outside the allowed limit". Ideas?
[01:28] <urlin2u> kingofswords, upgrades have been known to break clone lucid first in case it does
[01:28] <kingofswords> urlin2u, i dont understand ...what is clone lucid?
[01:29] <ubuntu_sucks> ubuntu is destroying my hardware
[01:29] <scythefwd> eross - can you ping other systems on your subnet?  I'd double check your IP settings before you start really messing with things
[01:29] <trevorjay> ubuntu_sucks: yep that makes sense. lol.
[01:29] <urlin2u> kingofswords, you can make a image=clone of Lucid,  http://clonezilla.org/
[01:29] <scythefwd> King - clone the vm that lucid .. whatever it is, lynx was it???, was installed on
[01:30] <ubuntu_sucks> trevorjay: it's overheating laptop
[01:30] <KM0201> ubuntu_sucks: if thats the case, it's kinda silly you're still using it..
[01:30] <ubuntu_sucks> so it does make sense
[01:30] <trevorjay> Where do trolls find the time? jesus.
[01:30] <ubuntu_sucks> KM0201: well it means it sucks?
[01:30] <trevorjay> ubuntu_sucks: not ubus fault
[01:30] <kingofswords> urlin2u,  isnt it easier to use update manager? im on 10.04 at moment
[01:30] <ubuntu_sucks> im not trolling im stating a fact
[01:30]  * KM0201 sighs... he'll never get it.
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> You are being vague..
[01:30] <trevorjay> ubuntu_sucks: set your system up correctly it wont happen
[01:30] <ubuntu_sucks> lol clean install
[01:31] <urlin2u> kingofswords,  suggest a extra so if the upgrade fails you just slip back in the lucid, it's insurance.
[01:31] <urlin2u> I
[01:31] <ubuntu_sucks> bios settings are good too
[01:31] <KM0201> ubuntu_sucks: there's a lot of blame... but its not ubuntu's fault.. 1. the package doesn't support your system, it said so in the package description, 2.  get upset w/ toshiba for not producing proper tools, 3. YOU should research laptops better, if you want to use linux on them.
[01:31] <kingofswords> urlin2u, an extra? u mean burn it to cd?
[01:31] <trevorjay> ubuntu_sucks: its more than like your fans arent being controlled correctly
[01:31] <ubuntu_sucks> KM0201: HAHA n1 now it's mu fault
[01:31] <urlin2u> kingofswords, did you look at the clonezilla link?
[01:31] <ubuntu_sucks> special laptops for ubuntu
[01:32] <ubuntu_sucks> trevorjay: maybe
[01:32] <laserbled> Hi - is there any application in ubuntu where I can set the screencapture video resolution to to more than my native resolution ?
[01:32] <KM0201> ubuntu_sucks: i dont see who else's fault it could be.. ..
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu works very well on my Toshiba X505 - but theres a great deal of varity in power saveing/features/settings that are or are not supported in linux by laptop makers.
[01:32] <trevorjay> ubuntu_sucks: look up your model and figure out what it needs
[01:32] <ubuntu_sucks> im looking
[01:32] <scythefwd> ubuntu_sucks - not special laptops, just those that conform to the publish standards.
[01:32] <urlin2u> kingofswords, you v=can make a complete copy of lucid to a external drive in packets, so if your upgrade fails you still have the original
[01:32] <th0r> scythefwd: and the cheap ones the script kiddies purchase
[01:32] <trevorjay> ubuntu_sucks: but first, stop trolling because your laptop is made incorrectly
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> ive yet to figure out why hw makers always seem to change their standards.
[01:33] <kingofswords> urlin2u, ah so its a ghost image?
[01:33] <urlin2u> kingofswords, in MS words yes.
[01:33] <trevorjay> ubuntu_sucks: by incorrectly I mean different than all of their others
[01:33] <kingofswords> urlin2u, can i make the clone image to my hdd or even the windows partition?
[01:33] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_sucks: You don't appear to be actually attempting to get support. If you'd like to stay in this channel please change your nick and keep your comments constructive.
[01:33] <ubuntu_sucks> Jordan_U: well you dont help me at all.
[01:34] <scythefwd> kingofswords - what vm are you running it on?  Vmware, VirtualPC ??
[01:34] <urlin2u> kingofswords, yes if there is room, about equal to the data in Ubuntu needed, but on install back you need the same partition or bigger.
[01:34] <kingofswords> scythefwd, erm ?
[01:34] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_sucks: This is your last warning. Please change your nick and keep your comments constructive.
[01:34] <kingofswords> urlin2u, so itll be around 700meg? do i need to put it on the windows partition then?
[01:35] <kingofswords> scythefwd, what are you talking about?
[01:35] <ubuntu_sucks> Jordan_U: I was trying to get help with this but now I say FUCK YOU and ban me bye
[01:35] <urlin2u> kingofswords, your ubuntu install is where now that is a cd size a ISO size.
[01:35] <henry-> patience is a virtue.
[01:35] <MK``> What does %U mean in the command line of an application launcher?
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> and that ends todays lesson on how to not get help in an irc chat room.
[01:36] <scythefwd> th0r - is that the ones that will work???
[01:36] <eross> scythefwd - what do you mean by subnet, like the other devices either wirelessly or wired and connected to the server?
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> MK``:  Ive seen tht documented somewhere.. on the nautulus scripts docs. i think it may be the path to the file.   not sure where i saw it at
[01:36] <scythefwd> kingofswords - sorry, crossing conversations here.. NM
[01:36] <kingofswords> urlin2u,  you mean what partition?
[01:36] <urlin2u> kingofswords, you have a installed ubuntu right, should be at least 3.5 gigs
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> MK``:  Hmm. not in the naut scripts docs.. You could try making a script that print the variavble :) to see what its set to.
[01:37] <kingofswords> urlin2u, yeh im in ubuntu now it 10.04 lts alternate....to make clone image do i have to leave ubuntu?
[01:37] <scythefwd> eross - oh lordy.. this is usually a couple hour long block of instruction.
[01:38] <urlin2u> kingofswords, you're not understanding or communicating in a sense that makes sense this is a waste of time, sorry. ;(
[01:38] <eross> i can't ping my other intranet pc , can't ping the router gateway unless it's switched back to dhcp
[01:38] <scythefwd> eross - create a room and tell me where you went... there's too much chatter in here to try and explain Ip subnetting and how that effects network routing and connectivity  in here
[01:38] <eross> ok
[01:38] <kingofswords> urlin2u, oh hang on i have 8gb usb stick....would that be best place
[01:38] <Firefishe> I'm using kubuntu 11.04, fresh install.  When I bring up konsole, then try to resize it from the bottom-right corner of its window, my entire system completely freezes, although the cursor seems to move around a bit, somewhat randomly, but also as if delayed touchpad or mouse actions are also getting through somehow.  I also lose keyboard (laptop) input.
[01:38] <_deXter_> Hi all, trying to mount a filesystem at bootup using fstab but it fails to mount; I get an error "Unrecognized mount option "uid=1000" or missing value"
[01:39] <eross> #help_please
[01:39] <WallyJ2K> Also... when I see the login screen, the bottom gray bar is across the middle of the screen. Why would that be?
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> _deXter_: paste the exact line here for us to look at.
[01:39] <kingofswords> urlin2u i dont really understand what u r saying
[01:39] <_deXter_> Dr_Willis: http://pastie.org/2409087
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> pastebin for a single line? :)
[01:40] <fission6> how do i turn my system bell on i am trying tp do print '\a'
[01:40] <_deXter_> Well, it's a long line..
[01:40] <fission6> in python which should work
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> _deXter_:  i would remove most of the options, i think some may be incorrect.. then add in the ones you need
[01:41] <_deXter_> Dr_Willis: Okay, will try
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> _deXter_:  and im not sure that fmask and dmask work with ext2/3/4
[01:41] <_deXter_> Dr_Willis: oh!
[01:41] <koud_> ahhhhh I am going insane, why I can only access google pages................
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> _deXter_:  then again.. for ext2/3/4 you souldent want uid/gid either....
[01:42] <fission6> system bvell / Xfce Terminal terminall bell? how do i turn it on
[01:42] <_deXter_> Dr_Willis: I added that because I needed rw perms for the whole partition
[01:42] <_deXter_> So that I don't need to chmod/chown it
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> _deXter_:  and auto,users  just seems odd..
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> _deXter_:  that wont work   i belive...
[01:42] <_deXter_> Dr_Willis: So there's no way to get rw perms without having to chmod ?
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> at least i dont think you can mount  fs and override the permissions on the files. for ext2/3/4
[01:43] <leif> Whenever my Sony Vaio laptop is waken up from sleep, it acts as if it's a fresh boot up, does anyone have any ideas on how to fix it?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> _deXter_:  not that ive ever seen..
[01:43] <leif> (Namely to get it to sleep/resume properly)
[01:43] <_deXter_> Thing is that is the /home partition for another distro I'm dual-booting so I don't want to change the perms
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> _deXter_:  i always add my users in the same order. so they get the same uid. but for differnt disrtos that may not work. ie: redhat starts at a differnt # i think
[01:44] <kingofswords> how long does it take to update to next ver of ubuntu?
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> kingofswords:  new release every 6 mo.
[01:44] <leif> I tried this to no avail: http://thecodecentral.com/2011/01/18/fix-ubuntu-10-10-suspendhibernate-not-working-bug
[01:44] <_deXter_> Dr_Willis: Yep, that's the problem, the uid is different
[01:44] <kingofswords> Dr_Willis, no i mean if i use update manager to go from 10.4 to 10.10?
[01:45] <kingofswords> does it dl the whole 700megs and does it take long to install?
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> kingofswords:  would depend on the speeds of your connection. its bsically downlading some 600+mb of data.. then working on the install..
[01:45] <kingofswords> ok thx....the install would take same or less time than a fresh install?
[01:46] <Seriphin> Good evening
[01:46] <edbian> kingofswords: depends of the speed of your system.  On modern hardware a normal install takes about 40 minutes
[01:46] <edbian> Seriphin: hi
[01:47] <leif> I also tried this, with no luck: http://weswilliamz.blogspot.com/2010/11/fix-ubuntu-1010-sony-vaio.html
[01:47] <kingofswords> edbian, thx...its 2.4 duo core with 4gb ram
[01:47] <Seriphin> Can someone direct me to an alternate download for the new 11.04 server torrent, the one on the offical website is bad redirect. I need the 32 bit ver please.
[01:47] <edbian> kingofswords: 40 minutes, maybe 30
[01:47] <kingofswords> cool
[01:47] <kingofswords> ahhh if i upgrade can i go from 64 bit to 32/
[01:48] <xangua> no
[01:48] <xangua> kingofswords:
[01:48] <kingofswords> ok
[01:50] <gr33n7007h> Seriphin -- http://ca.isohunt.com/download/291288725/f083688df0b00675197aff464aa1c7eabf879c99.torrent
[01:50] <leif> Hmm... this website (http://fabiostrozzi.eu/2010/12/09/ubuntu-10-10-on-sony-vaio-vpcf13v5e-work-in-progress/) says the line should be: SUSPEND_MODULES=”xhci_hcd”, as apposed to "xhci-hcd", would that be correct?
[01:50] <Seriphin> Thank you kindly
[01:50] <Guest71158> HELP ME
[01:50] <yeats> !help | Guest71158
[01:50] <Guest71158> i need to resize my ubuntu partition
[01:51] <Guest71158> i'm in gparted
[01:51] <Guest71158> i have 5GB ubuntu partition - 500MB linux swapn then 5GB emtpy space
[01:51] <Guest71158> 5GB ubuntu - 500mb swap - 5gb free
[01:51] <urlin2u> Guest71158, take a screenshot of gparted and imagebin it and stae what you want>
[01:51] <Guest71158> yeah
[01:51] <urlin2u> state
[01:51] <Guest71158> what state ?
[01:52] <urlin2u> read
[01:52] <Guest71158> wath the screen shot do ?
[01:52] <zelozelos> its ok Guest71158 , just specify manually how you want the partitions, is the free space "unused" or is it partitioned too?
[01:53] <kingofswords> does upgrding ubuntu ver keep my settings?
[01:53] <Guest71158> the free space is unallocated
[01:53] <zelozelos> mostly does cept if the prog is obsoleted
[01:53] <urlin2u> Guest71158, sisnce you know not how to do it it helps to have a picture, takes out the guessing, you would not want any guessing would you?
[01:53] <zelozelos> Guest71158, ok, just slide the slider to overtake the empty unused space , make sure to use the correct color
[01:53] <Guest71158> how to move the swap file to the end of the disk without breaking it?
[01:53] <zelozelos> the color that matches the linux partition
[01:54] <html> hi
[01:54] <zelozelos> Guest71158, DONT mess with swap, its fine where it lies
[01:55] <Aple> Anyone use GEdit? Where do I put third-party plugins?
[01:55] <zelozelos> everyone always wants to change/modify swap, its not necessary unless its less or way more then the actual memory the machine has
[01:55] <Guest71158> ok man i understand now .. thanks
[01:56] <html> usb creator on ubuntu 10.10 dont work, and when i go and chosse my iso it doesnt show up,
[01:56] <Guest71158> thanks for the infos
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> nomally one has a swap partition also.. not a swap file.
[01:56] <Dr_Willis> html:  whats the iso you are using?
[01:56] <urlin2u> html, what is the ISO?
[01:56] <zelozelos> for the most part swap is pretty good at knowing what it needs to be..true Dr_Willis a swap file would be dos/microsoft hehee
[01:56] <gr33n7007h> html -- use unetbootin
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> You can have swap files and partitions. :) or some of each.. or several of each..
[01:57] <_deXter_> Dr_Willis: Changed my uid to match the other distro and I'm able to access the files just fine! Thanks for your help :)
[01:57] <zykotick9> gr33n7007h, +1  html
[01:57] <Guest71158> thanks zelozelos
[01:57] <html> fedora 15  i686
[01:57] <koud> any pptp experts here?
[01:57] <zelozelos> np Guest71158
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> just dont put your swap file in your ubuntuone dir. :)
[01:57] <zelozelos> rofl
[01:57] <html> pptp? whats that?
[01:57] <leif> Well that didn't work. :(  Any other suggestions?
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> html:  thats why.. the tool  is for ubuntu disks only
[01:57] <fission6> wahts a good way to notify a user of an even in a bash script? like surfacing to the UI
[01:57] <Guest71158> Dr_Willis you told me to boot using live cd
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> html:  check out pendrivelinux and its tools
[01:57] <Guest71158> i downloaded gparted live cd
[01:57] <Guest71158> next time be more specific
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> Guest71158:  i probley mentioned giveing more details in your responses also...
[01:58] <urlin2u> html, at pendrive is the multisystem multi booter that works.
[01:58] <toocool> my system is partioned  150mb boot 520mb swap 16gb root 15 gb home
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> gparted live cd - is a very handy live cd to have in your toolbox.
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> time for me to go to work. bye all.
[01:59] <zelozelos> there should be a bot answer for everyone that wants to change/modify partitions directing them to a page that has basic partition information and what they are, including swap, thers prob a link on the site that can be used
[01:59] <html> zykotick9,    what do you mean by +1 ? dont get it
[01:59] <edbian> zelozelos: There should be a bot answer for every question! :D
[02:00] <urlin2u> html, means approval
[02:00] <toocool> RTFM  :O)
[02:00] <zelozelos> edbian, naw just some of the most frequent things people dont understand and want to mess up..i mean customize
[02:00] <html> urlin2u,   is there one for ubuntu ? ,  im aware of it , but never one for linux
[02:00] <edbian> zelozelos: Is there a way to edit the bot?
[02:00] <edbian> Is there a way to edit the bot?
[02:01] <zelozelos> only chan ops can
[02:01] <urlin2u> html, one what the thumb loader?
[02:01] <html> urlin2u,  of it not working?,, i have never really had much luck and go to use something else
[02:02] <urlin2u> html, I don't know what your talking about, can you be more clear. ;-)
[02:02] <Aple> Anyone know where to put GEdit 3rd party plugins?
[02:03] <urlin2u> html, Linux covers over 300 distro's at the least.
[02:03] <urlin2u> including Ubuntu
[02:03] <html> urlin2u,  i dont know why they even bother putting it in  the os'es  (usb creator)   and it sucks,   i wish theres a muliti- boot usb creator for linux
[02:03] <urlin2u> html, you are not looking close enough.
[02:03] <zykotick9> html, sorry, i just mean that unetbootin was a good suggestion.  I was agreeing with gr33n7007h
[02:04] <Cas07> Aple: ~/.gnome2/gedit/plugins/
[02:04] <urlin2u> zykotick9, I agree. ;-)
[02:04] <koud> someone got suggestion where I can ask network related questions?
[02:04] <Aple> Cas07: Thanks man
[02:04] <_deXter_> html: You can use YUMI, it's a pretty good multi-boot usb creator
[02:04] <urlin2u> _deXter_, windows loader
[02:04] <_deXter_> urlin2u: ?
[02:04] <Aple> Cas07: No such file or dir, you sure?
[02:04] <Cas07> create it then
[02:05] <html> zykotick9,  oh... well i didnt have much luck in the past with it,  im still not sure how it even works
[02:05] <html> _deXter_,
[02:05] <Cas07> Aple: ~/.gnome2/gedit/ should exist
[02:05] <urlin2u> _deXter_, runs in windows
[02:05] <MagicJ> my netbook has an internal microphone and also a plugin for an external one -  for some reason ubuntu is not offering these as inout devices - any ideas would be most welcome
[02:05] <_deXter_> urlin2u: I know
[02:05] <Aple> Cas07: It does. Create a plugins folder and go?
[02:05] <Cas07> Aple: yep
[02:06] <Aple> Thanks chief
[02:06] <_deXter_> html: Well if you're running it in wine, you'll have to give your usb drive a drive letter using winecfg first
[02:06] <_deXter_> html: once you do that it works great
[02:06] <html> _deXter_,   i know of that one  and i use it alott!  i just wish i knew of one that what for linux, or even better crossplatform
[02:06] <_deXter_> html: It works great under Wine
[02:07] <Afflicto> Hey all. I'm trying to remotely view\control my ubuntu PC via my win 7 PC. (They are on LAN together). Using UltraVNC or TightVNC wll result in: controlling the desktop with mouse and keyboard, but frames do not update. I only see the first initial frame. Please help! (Teamviewer worked though, but it laggs like ****)
[02:08] <html> _deXter_,  never good at wime, ( your hit my most weakest spots ,  )  ive been at this for a 1-2 yrs.
[02:08] <html> _deXter_,  can you show me?
[02:08] <Aple> Cas07: Do I have to source gedit or something to get it to pick up those plugins I installed?
[02:08] <urlin2u> html, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[02:08] <_deXter_> ^
[02:09] <urlin2u> html, or use unetbootin.
[02:09] <Aple> Cas07: Oh nevermind. Works now. Thanks so much man! :)
[02:09] <Aple> Love you IRC guys
[02:10] <nsd_> Quick printing question (hopefully): Anyone know if it's possible to specify a blank page in the gnome printing dialog page range field?
[02:10] <zelozelos> when i click on the main menu icon, and click logout< does anyone know the command it runs to bring up that logout dialog box to choose logout or switch users?
[02:10] <nsd_> zelozelos: Are you trying to use an alternate WM?
[02:11] <zelozelos> nsd_, no just gnome, but i use cario dock instead of the panels, but for some reason the power icon cairo dock has wont logout, only pulls up the shutdown dialog,
[02:12] <nsd_> zelozelos: Oh, okay. I don't think it's possible to get that dialog with a command unfortunately. In my case, I am using FVWM, so I wrote a script to emulate its behavior (but it's FVWM only)
[02:13] <zelozelos> nsd_, ah yeah, that wont work at all, you're prob right about the command i think the dialog is built into the applet, however i know one exists ive seen it b4
[02:13] <html> urlin2u,  whats that abuot?  and how to get it
[02:13] <nsd_> zelozelos: Well if there is one, I don't know it, sorry. Have you tried using apropos to find it (as opposed to google?)
[02:14] <nsd_> The command apropos, that is
[02:14] <zelozelos> apropos?
[02:14] <zykotick9> zelozelos, apropos searches man pages
[02:15] <zaksoldier> Hi
[02:15] <zaksoldier> !u
[02:15] <urlin2u> html, I assume you mean the multisystem.  http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://liveusb.info/dotclear/&ei=tbtRToeiIKbhiALj34GfDw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CE0Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmultisystem%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26site%3Dwebhp%26prmd%3Divns
[02:16] <zelozelos> nsd_, so perhaps apropos logout? or what would be closer to what im looking for?
[02:16] <nsd_> zelozelos: Oh, I don't know, you just have to search a bunch of things, maybe grep the output for gnome
[02:16] <zRomayn> i just installed vmware 2.0 on my ubuntu natty desktop
[02:16] <vindoz> hi, I am confused about file permissions. I have a directory /var/www, which is owned by root, group root and has permission drw-rw-rwT. user tim is unable to read files or make new folders in that directory. I'd like to be able to.
[02:16] <vindoz> what do I do?
[02:16] <zRomayn> there was a prompt stating if i wanted to use  admin '' and the default was [no]
[02:17] <zelozelos> what i need is a way to capture the window id
[02:17] <zRomayn> so now it states that the user is "root"
[02:17] <zykotick9> zelozelos, i doubt you'll find anything in apropos for what you want :|
[02:17] <zRomayn> when I opened the https://localhost:8333/ui to access it, i cannot use root, since it doesn't have a password
[02:18] <zRomayn> i cannot use my account either
[02:18] <Afflicto> Please help me, I can connect to my ubuntu via VNC (using ultravnc) and I can control it with my mosue and keyboard but the screen isn't animated. it's a still picture! so I can't see what I'm doing unless I turn my back and look at the physical monitor that I'm controlling! Please help I'm clueless!
[02:19] <Starminn> I can't delete a directory from my USB drive. I tried doing so as root but it still won't work.
[02:20] <zykotick9> Afflicto, perhaps try a different VNC client?  sorry i'm not familiar with the options on MS clients.  Good luck.
[02:21] <zykotick9> Starminn, is this a permission issue?  what output do you get when you try?  what filesystem type is it?
[02:21] <Starminn> zykotick9: It tells me that the folder that cannot be deleted is a "Read-only file system"
[02:21] <Afflicto> Zykotick9: I have tried 2. ANd they both worked earlier today.
[02:22] <infinitux> hi.
[02:22] <zykotick9> Starminn, remount the USB with r/w
[02:22] <Afflicto> RealVNC\TightVNC.
[02:22] <Afflicto> no. sorry. RealVNC and UltraVNC.
[02:22] <zykotick9> Afflicto, sorry i don't know then, best of luck.
[02:23] <Starminn> zykotick9: How do I do that? Everything else can be deleted, just not the directory (all containing files were deleted fine).
[02:23] <urlin2u> html, if you use the multisystem device, I have found it to only work with the fat32 partition on the thumb formatted in gparted.
[02:23] <zykotick9> Starminn, what filesystem type is the USB?
[02:23] <html> that something to think about ....
[02:23] <zRomayn> zRomayn:  i just installed vmware 2.0 on my ubuntu natty desktop. there was a prompt stating if i wanted to use  admin '' and the default was [no] . so now it states that the user is "root" . when I opened the https://localhost:8333/ui to access it, i cannot use root, since it doesn't have a password. i tried it with the account i set initially in ubuntu and it doesn't let me in. any ideas?
[02:24] <Starminn> zykotick9: "msdos"
[02:24] <zelozelos> oHH! another idea, what command can i run via alt+f2 that will save and logout of the current session? (i guess it will work in a terminal as well..dk)??
[02:24] <Afflicto> ok I just tried TightVNC too. now I've tried 3 different ones. the problem must be on the ubuntu side.
[02:24] <vindoz> Afflicto: what are you actually seeing?
[02:24] <vindoz> you say it's a still image, but is it an image of your desktop
[02:25] <vindoz> or just a blank screen?
[02:25] <zelozelos> for shutdown there this dbus-send --dest=org.gnome.SessionManager /org/gnome/SessionManager org.gnome.SessionManager.Shutdown
[02:25] <gr33n7007h> zelozelos -- sudo pkill KILL -u username
[02:25] <zelozelos> gr33n7007h, wont that just kill the current session, i want it to logout normally
[02:26] <gr33n7007h> ah ok sorry ;)
[02:26] <zelozelos> do u think if i switch .Shutdown to .Logout?
[02:26] <speedrunnerG55> help, can someone tell me how i can change the login screen?
[02:26] <speedrunnerG55> or, how i can make my own?
[02:27] <zykotick9_> speedrunnerG55, like with a theme?  easy answer is - you can't.
[02:27] <speedrunnerG55> i cant? why
[02:27] <zelozelos> speedrunnerG55, thers a prog in the repo ummm...dont remember what its called, but you can change the background
[02:27] <speedrunnerG55> is that all?
[02:27] <zelozelos> its for customizing all of gnome
[02:27] <speedrunnerG55> o_o
[02:28] <zelozelos> i believe it was new for 9.4
[02:28] <zelozelos> im looking now
[02:28] <speedrunnerG55> repo?
[02:28] <wilder> Every release lately seems to be getting worse.
[02:28] <zykotick9_> speedrunnerG55, gdm3 doesn't support the old themes, and new ones have been slow to emerge.  It is "possible" to change a couple of themes, with Ubuntu-Tweak
[02:29] <speedrunnerG55> teak?
[02:29] <speedrunnerG55> tweak?
[02:29] <zelozelos> ah yeah its ubuntu tweak
[02:29] <zelozelos> very nice prog, also check out grub customizer if you're dual booting
[02:30] <zelozelos> and if you do remember, sudo update-grub2
[02:30] <zelozelos> hehee
[02:30] <gr33n7007h> zelozelos -- dbus-send --session --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.gnome.SessionManager /org/gnome/SessionManager org.gnome.SessionManager.Logout uint32:1
[02:30] <speedrunnerG55> i cant find it in synaptic pakage manager
[02:30] <zelozelos> OH awesome gr33n7007h ill give it a try right now! thank you
[02:31] <speedrunnerG55> grub2?
[02:31] <speedrunnerG55> ;_;
[02:31] <speedrunnerG55> why cant i change it?
[02:32] <speedrunnerG55> can i in linux mint?
[02:32] <wilder> 42
[02:32] <speedrunnerG55> 42?
[02:32] <speedrunnerG55> :(
[02:33] <wilder> Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and ...
[02:33] <wilder> something.
[02:33] <speedrunnerG55> ?me cries
[02:33]  * speedrunnerG55 cries
[02:33] <coz_> speedrunnerG55,    http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[02:33] <wilder> ^
[02:33] <zelozelos> gr33n7007h, yup that works perfectly, ty again now i can get rid of the last panel on my desktop ;)
[02:33] <gr33n7007h> your welcome
[02:34] <rstreeter> I am being asked to type in the root password when trying to mount an external drive, how can I correct this?
[02:34] <zelozelos> act, maybe i should just permanently hide it
[02:34] <Afflicto> Vindoz: I see the image of the screen. but The framrate is at ZERO. Therefore, I only see the image of the monitor as it is the instant I connect.
[02:34] <infinitux> maybe the device permissions are set to root.
[02:35] <wilder> chown'd
[02:35] <wilder> I guess my jokes are extra bad today heh
[02:35] <infinitux> rstreeter: chown, chmod, and chgrp are the commands used to set permissions on files and directories.
[02:36] <rstreeter> I will give that a try thanks
[02:36] <infinitux> perhaps if you change the permission on the devices root folder(s) to match your user permissions you'll be able to automatically mount without a root password
[02:36] <Tonytouch> Does any1 know how to install mutiply firefoxs in ubuntu
[02:37] <wilder> You could install one regular and one with one and one with playonlinux
[02:37] <wilder> one with wine*
[02:38] <Tonytouch> Thought about it that way interesting, say how stable is it through wine/playonlinux
[02:38] <x0rs> is there a way to reverse a sorted list so that it is higher to lower?
[02:39] <zykotick9> x0rs, sort -r perhaps?
[02:39] <wilder> I wouldn't call it unstable. But it's definatly got its quirks.
[02:39] <wilder> It works fine.
[02:39] <x0rs> zykotick9, oh sorry, thought i was in python channel
[02:40] <jolynn> hey I need some assistance setting up ATI Radeon X1200 on this laptop glxgears is just blank I'm running 11.04 in "ubuntu classic" whatever that is where is a good place to start?  It looks like it defaulted to the ATI Radeon drivers should I be using fgl stuff instead?
[02:40] <Tonytouch> indeed I go that route for now thx
[02:40] <jolynn> like what logs should I check and soforth
[02:40] <jolynn> I cant even kill X cause gdm just restarts it so cant run xorgconfig
[02:41] <Afflicto> So, nobody can help me? :(
[02:41] <staame> mamakirc.no-ip.org
[02:41] <Afflicto> I guess I'll reinstall.
[02:41] <zykotick9> jolynn, to solve that issue use "sudo service gdm stop"
[02:41] <jolynn> ahh
[02:41] <jolynn> thanks
[02:41] <wilder> What was your question afflicto?
[02:42] <Afflicto> I can't VNC my ubuntu PC.
[02:42] <jolynn> zykotick9: any other pointers before I exit X here?
[02:42] <zykotick9> jolynn, sorry i can't/don't assist with ATI stuff.  Good luck.
[02:42] <Afflicto> I'm trying to control my ubuntu-pc from my win 7. I can see the first initial frame of the desktop upon connection. and I can control it with my mouse\keyboard. but frames to not update.
[02:43] <jolynn> zykotick9: do you know how to at least reinstall drivers from commandline like what is the base dependency for apt-get or whatever?
[02:43] <wilder> have you tried a different keyboard/mouse?
[02:43] <Aple> Possible to reinstall Vim?
[02:43] <wilder> Like if they are USB try a PS/2
[02:43] <Afflicto> Therefore, it's useless because I have to turn my head and look at the physical monitor..
[02:43] <zykotick9> jolynn, for nvidia i do, for ati i don't.  sorry.
[02:43] <Aple> I broke it by adding a colorscheme that isn't there. :\
[02:43] <rodhash> Hello all.. I want to upgrade a specific package (libdrm-intel1) but I'd like to backup the current version.. later perform the package upgrade... How can I backup this current package?
[02:43] <jolynn> zykotick9: k thanks dude
[02:44] <zykotick9> rodhash, have a look in /var/cache/apt perhaps you will find the DEB there?
[02:45] <rodhash> zykotick9: No, there's no deb file there
[02:45] <zykotick9> rodhash, sorry don't know then.
[02:45] <Afflicto> omg I think I found the solution. Someone said: "turn off compiz - set graphics effects to none." on a forum post...
[02:45] <rodhash> Afflicto: are you saying this to me?
[02:46] <fission6> is there a ubuntu notify / growl system i can use
[02:46] <Tonytouch> ? is there an software available or service in ubuntu that can provide a link-layer topology discovery similar to windows
[02:46] <wilder> 42
[02:46] <Afflicto> rodhas: no to myself lol :P
[02:48] <fission6> is there a defacto ubuntu notificatoin s ystem?
[02:48] <wilder> Can you clarify your meaning?
[02:48] <fission6> a growl / "pop up" notification system
[02:49] <Afflicto> Does anyone know how to completely disable all Compiz Effects?  :D
[02:56] <Afflicto> I fixed it
[02:57] <rypervenche> Afflicto: You mean zykotick9 helped you fix it?
[02:58] <Afflicto> actually. I did this: gconftool -s -t string /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager/current /usr/bin/metacity
[02:58] <Afflicto>  gconftool -s -t string /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager/default /usr/bin/metacity
[02:58] <Afflicto> As far as I know it ovverides that other compiz thing so yea :P But thanks alot though :)
[03:00] <nearst> sup
[03:01] <wilder> WAZZUPPP YOOO
[03:02] <Starminn> wilder: #ubuntu-offtopic is what you're looking for I think.
[03:02] <Aple> Where do I put vim plugins in Ubuntu?
[03:02] <wilder> brilliant.
[03:04] <hylian> xfce doesn;t shutdown, it only logs out...
[03:04] <rypervenche> Aple: You can get the package "vim-scripts"
[03:04] <Cpt_Zyph> hey guys i have a laptop hard drive thats starting to fail and i want to make a backup img onto my larger external drive so i can replace the drive.. any advice on some programs similar to norton ghost or something?
[03:04] <rypervenche> hylian: When you do waht?
[03:05] <hylian> rypervenche, when do i want?
[03:05] <hylian> rypervenche, wheni click shutdown or reboot, it logs out instead.
[03:06] <gr33n7007h> Aple -- /usr/share/vim/
[03:06] <Aple> rypervenche: k, I have vim-scripts. Now what? :)
[03:06] <rypervenche> Cpt_Zyph: dd
[03:06] <hylian> rypervenche, don't worry about my problem, help Aple my problem is not a big deal.
[03:06] <rypervenche> Aple: Use the command "vim-addons"
[03:06] <zykotick9> Cpt_Zyph, clonezilla is a livecd similar to NG
[03:07] <IAmNotThatGuy> hydh, sudo shutdown -1 ? an alternate
[03:07] <IAmNotThatGuy> err hylian sudo shutdown -1 ? an alternate
[03:07] <rypervenche> Aple: For example, "vim-addons install gnupg"
[03:08] <rypervenche> Aple: Do "vim-addons list" to see which you have.
[03:08] <hylian> IAmNotThatGuy, i know how to shutdown the system, but i want to do it from the gui, the normal way.
[03:08] <Aple> thanks ryper
[03:08] <Aple> Can I get Sparkup and Snipmate that way?
[03:08] <rypervenche> hylian: Are you clicking it? Pressing ctrl+alt+del to get it? Pressing the power button?
[03:08] <urlin2u> hylian, might be a bug.http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10941852&postcount=4
[03:08] <Aple> I tried sparkup with no success
[03:09] <hylian> rypervenche, i am using the dropdown menu on the top right.
[03:09] <rypervenche> Aple: Is sparup in the list of plugins available in vim-scripts?
[03:09] <rypervenche> sparkup*
[03:09] <Aple> Where can I find that?
[03:09] <rypervenche> Aple: vim-addons list
[03:10] <Aple> Oh, those are the available ones. Hm
[03:10] <Aple> No, it's not in there
[03:11] <rypervenche> Aple: If not, you have to manually put the script in your vim scripts folder.
[03:11] <Aple> Which is in /usr/share/vim/ ?
[03:11] <hylian> urlin2u, i see. i think i'll have to wait untill the repos catch up for this fix. thanks.
[03:11] <hylian> rypervenche, thanks for the help
[03:11] <rypervenche> Aple: I have my gnupg.vim in both ~/.vim/plugin/ and /usr/share/vim-scripts/plugin/
[03:12] <urlin2u> hylian, in the add to panel are usually a shutdown button as well, I would try that as well, hard to say really.
[03:12] <rypervenche> Aple: I think both would work, depending on if you want it for everyone's use, or just your own.
[03:12] <mayenife> need help installing WikidPad for Ubuntu. Can someone please help?
[03:13] <hylian> urlin2u, thanks. other than that, xfce runs like a charm.
[03:14] <Aple> ryper: Just my own. Dude in #vim told me to get pathogen
[03:14] <Aple> That he just puts everything in ~/vim_bundles and voila!
[03:15] <Aple> So he has plugins like ~/vim_bundles/sparkup and ~/vim_bundles/snipmate and everything just works fine
[03:15] <urlin2u> mayenife, which ubuntu release?
[03:15] <mayenife> 11.04
[03:15] <urlin2u> mayenife, do you have the debi?
[03:16] <mayenife> not sure what that means
[03:17] <Matt_799> if i install ubuntu dual boot on a laptop with windows already installed, should ubuntu be installed on a partition that is on the same hard disk as windows and how will drivers work??
[03:19] <jiohdi2> is bitchX availible for ubuntu?
[03:19] <tensorpudding> it can surely run on ubuntu, but it might not be in the software center
[03:19] <urlin2u> mayenife, debi is a package type, here is a link install gdebi to unpack it, it will tell you if your missing dependencies.  http://wikidpad.en.uptodown.com/ubuntu
[03:20] <zykotick9> jiohdi, bitchx is no longer support.  i believe irssi is an alternative.
[03:20] <orificium>  anyone aware of any quick fixes for no sound in flash in either firefox or chrome after but I get sound through rhythmbox, mythtv, etc.  I've tried different versions of flash, the open source flash players, different versions of firefox - and I believe it happened after upgrading to mythbuntu 10.04
[03:20] <jiohdi2> zykotick9 thanks
[03:20] <orificium> I've tried various fixes mentioned in threads with no luck
[03:21] <orificium> something often mentioned is adding a line to firefoxrc but the file didn't even exist - and it wouldn't exlpain why it doesn't work in chrome
[03:22] <zykotick9> orificium, do you have pulseaudio installed?
[03:23] <orificium> yes it's installed
[03:23] <orificium> get rid of it?
[03:23] <zykotick9> orificium, no.
[03:23] <Kage> I can't find any info about setting up my game pad
[03:24] <Kage> its a steelseries 3gc controller
[03:24] <zykotick9> orificium, sorry i don't have any suggestions, but I've had issues with only ALSA and flash.
[03:24] <orificium> is there a way to tell if I'm using alsa versus pulseaudio
[03:24] <zykotick9> orificium, "ps aux | grep pulse" see if it's running
[03:25] <orificium> yup
[03:25] <orificium> is there a way to tell flash to route through pulseaudio as opposed to say alsa
[03:26] <orificium> like you can with VLC and other video players
[03:26] <Kage> !help
[03:26]  * hylian sings "Everybody wang chung tonight."
[03:27] <RudyValencia> hylian: you must be a Legend of Zelda fan, eh?
[03:28] <hylian> RudyValencia: ohh yes, i am.
[03:28] <zykotick9> Kage, setting up?  does the system recognize it?
[03:28] <RudyValencia> :D
[03:28] <RudyValencia> ah
[03:28] <mayenife> it says i have to install python-wxgtk and python-wxversion
[03:28] <mayenife> where do i find those?
[03:29] <hylian> RudyValencia: most people don't recognize that, a gold star for you! :)
[03:29] <RudyValencia> thank!
[03:29] <RudyValencia> *thanks!
[03:29] <gr33n7007h> orificium -- Try this : System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications the press the add button /usr/bin/pulseaudio it worked for me ;)
[03:29] <urlin2u> mayenife, look in synaptic, it is in the menu.
[03:30] <Kage> zykotick9: dmesg sees it as a "DragonRise" device
[03:30] <nykur> My wireless connection is very jumpy. Using a realtek chip and the rtl892ce module
[03:30] <zykotick9> Kage, in a terminal "cat /dev/input/js0" then press buttons/move directions - see if you get character feedback
[03:30] <nykur> rtl8192ce
[03:30] <Kage> zykotick9: yes
[03:30] <zykotick9> Kage, so it's working then.
[03:31] <Kage> zykotick9: well, it has two joysticks on it
[03:31] <Kage> and it sees it as one
[03:31] <zykotick9> Kage, that i can't help with - good luck.
[03:31] <Kage> and some of the buttons respond the same
[03:31] <Kage> >.<
[03:31] <hylian> Kage: dragonrise is a type of video game joystick or gamepad.
[03:31] <gr33n7007h> oh and then reboot
[03:32] <Kage> hylian: ok...
[03:32] <hylian> Kage: heh, i somehow think you knew that already... @)
[03:32] <nykur> It will work for a short period of time, then slow down to a halt, even though it says it's connected
[03:32] <orificium> gr33n7007h: start-pulseaudio-x11 is already in there - is that doing the same thing?
[03:33] <htmlinprogress> hi
[03:33] <hylian> htmlinprogress: hello
[03:33] <gr33n7007h> no
[03:33] <nykur> had the same experience with LMDE, now running Natty
[03:33] <htmlinprogress> how are you ?
[03:33] <Kage> hylian: I didn't actually, I thought it was a brand
[03:33] <gr33n7007h> /usr/bin/pulseaudio starts the deamon
[03:33] <gr33n7007h> trust me it works
[03:33] <zykotick9> htmlinprogress, do you have an ubuntu support question?
[03:33] <orificium> alright I'll try it
[03:34] <hylian> Kage: actually, that's what I meant, it's a brand of a usb gamepad...
[03:34] <orificium> brb
[03:34] <hylian> htmlinprogress: i'm a live...
[03:34] <Kage> hylian: well, this isn't made by dragonrise, its made by steelseries
[03:34] <mayenife> urlin2u should i be good to go after that?
[03:34] <gr33n7007h> then reboot
[03:34] <Kage> hylian: maybe I have the wrong driver?
[03:35] <htmlinprogress>  whats this mean, it is from  usb creator (An uncaught exception was raised:
[03:35] <htmlinprogress> [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/media/6110-1EAB/casper') trying to use mabuntu 11.04,,,,,,, and yres i was bing friendly
[03:35] <urlin2u> mayenife, if yu found what you were missing, probably, gdebi is pretty good at the install.
[03:35] <hylian> Kage: is it possible it was made by dragonrise for steelseries? there's a lot of that kinda thing that goes on in the industry, i.e. dell monitors actually being sony's.
[03:35] <zykotick9> gr33n7007h, if you're adding something to startup applications, you really only need to log out/back in.
[03:35] <mayenife> ok. I've installed
[03:35] <gr33n7007h> i told to reboot
[03:35] <hylian> htmlinprogress: let me take a quick look, brb
[03:35] <Kage> hylian: maybe, but I mean, is suppose to have motion feedback
[03:35] <zykotick9> gr33n7007h, i know, and that isn't required
[03:36] <Kage> but I can't even figure out if that works
[03:36] <zykotick9> Kage, i've never seen a joystick/joypad driver before in gnu/linux
[03:37] <mayenife> it just looks like its not working
[03:37] <htmlinprogress> hylian,  ok
[03:37] <zykotick9> htmlinprogress, if you don't get anywhere fixing USB Creator try Unetbootin instead
[03:37] <urlin2u> mayenife, I didn't find much about it on the web I would look for a forum on that device.
[03:38] <hylian> htmlinprogress: this error is sometimes caused by not being able to write to a folder. does the program you are using have permissions to write to the folder you are using?
[03:38] <mayenife> ok. Thank you very much for your help
[03:39] <hylian> Kage: so what you are trying to do is get the feedback to work, and nada? does the game you are playing have that option? (if it's fairly old it probably won't)
[03:40] <Kage> hylian: what gmae is there that can use a joystick, it doesn't seem to work in any of the games I've tried
[03:40] <zykotick9> hylian, i haven't seen any feedback supported games/emulators in linux - i know i've seen the "experimental" option in the kernel mind you
[03:40] <htmlinprogress> hylain , im admin!  so  how could that be ? ,  and if i didnt then how do i get it fixed?
[03:40] <orificium> gr33n7007h: didn't help - daemon is definitely running
[03:41] <nykur> My wireless is like it fills up and gets clogged.
[03:41] <zykotick9> Kage, be sure to try configuring the game to look at /dev/input/jsX they ususally default to the old /dev/jsX
[03:41] <hylian> Kage most of the games can, but don't have force feedback. it just means the gamepad won't buzz in your hand if you get shot, for instance.
[03:41] <urlin2u> mayenife, no problem.
[03:42] <hylian> zykotick9: thanks, i am not a huge gamer, and the only thing with gamepads i have messed with was supertuxkart, for my nephews. :)
[03:42] <zykotick9> hylian, teamwork :)
[03:43] <wilder> what is the danger of having etc/passwd readable
[03:43] <itilious> can i discuss questions about "ubuntu one" in here?
[03:43] <wilder> webserver
[03:43] <zykotick9> wilder, it HAS to be readable!
[03:43] <wilder> so i should be able to cat it any time with any user?
[03:43] <zykotick9> wilder, yes
[03:44] <zykotick9> wilder, if you make it root only = system broken
[03:44] <wilder> bummer
[03:44] <htmlinprogress> hylain, im admin!  so  how could that be ? ,  and if i didnt then how do i get it fixed?
[03:45] <zykotick9> htmlinprogress, if you don't get anywhere fixing USB Creator try Unetbootin instead
[03:45] <itilious> are any/all my files in "ubuntu one" available to the public? or only files in the public folder?
[03:45] <zykotick9> itilious, there is an #ubuntuone channel that may be able to answer that better
[03:46] <hylian> htmlinprogress: you are, but not all programs and processes are, and some programs and processes need to be given permission in their group for programs to write out to a file in said folder. so if you are trying to write to /home/username/folder/ then it should be ok no matter what, but other folders are very pretected.
[03:46] <wilder> i guess i thought a jailed user shouldn't be able to read it
[03:46] <itilious> ty zykotick9 :)
[03:46] <bastidrazor> htmlinprogress: in a terminal use "gksudo usb-creator-gtk"  to run it with admin permissions.
[03:46] <wilder> example on this server user is jailed to home/user/ but i can cat ../../bin/passwd anyway
[03:47] <zykotick9> wilder, "jailed" what are you using FreeBSD?  do you mean chrooted?
[03:47] <htmlinprogress> hylian,  ok
[03:47] <hylian> htmlinprogress: what program are you using that gives you this error?
[03:47] <zykotick9> hylian, USB Creator
[03:48] <hylian> zykotick9: thanks
[03:48] <wilder> its a jail ssh user
[03:48] <wilder> that can do what I am asking about
[03:48] <htmlinprogress> hylian,  usb creator
[03:48] <hylian> htmlinprogress: ah, this is actually a fairly documented problem. it's either an error with reading a file, or writing out to it. (usually)
[03:49] <gr33n7007h> orificium -- Try this : sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1
[03:49] <hylian> htmlinprogress: i haven't personally used this program, have you tried gksu usbcreator in alt-f2?
[03:50] <htmlinprogress> zykotick9,hylian,bastidrazor, thanks yall   but the flash drive was like had an attitude, so i fixed it :)
[03:51] <gr33n7007h> orificium you there?
[03:51] <nykur> I have a problem with my wireless connection in my laptop. Using a Realtek chip.
[03:51] <hylian> htmlinprogress: there's a report on this here: http://support.testflightapp.com/discussions/problems/406-errno-13-permission-denied-mediauploads227761301101421. the only problem is that this bug is marked as fixed, are you using a fairly old verion of ubuntu?
[03:52] <hylian> htmlinprogress: i like to hear that! took charge and fixed it, sounds like me :)
[03:52] <mayenife> last question: anyone know how to rename tabs in WikidPad?
[03:53]  * hylian is listening to sky 80's, "Stevie Nicks - Leather And Lace""
[03:54] <zykotick9> mayenife, are you using windows or ubuntu?
[03:54] <mayenife> ubuntu
[03:54] <mayenife> i want to make multiple tabs with different names
[03:54] <zykotick9> mayenife, then why does it say "WikidPad - wiki notebook for windows"
[03:55] <mayenife> i got the ubuntu version
[03:55] <hylian> zykotick9: it's available here: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/307647
[03:55] <urlin2u> mayenife, try this http://wikidpad.sourceforge.net/help/KeyBindings.html
[03:56] <zykotick9> hylian, thanks
[03:56] <Kage> hylian: seem the game pad is hardwired the way it behaves
[03:56] <Kage> hylian: seems the left joy stick is tied to the left D pad
[03:56] <hylian> Kage: hmm, sorry man, getting it to work is dooable, getting it to foce feedback however...
[03:56] <Kage> hylian: and the right joy, to the 1-4 buttons
[03:57] <mayenife> thanks urlin2u
[03:57] <mayenife> im thinking it might be a bug because all the tabs are the same
[03:57] <hylian> Kage ohh i see, it won't let you set them the way you want, strange. i think that's why i am a logitech man.
[03:57] <urlin2u> mayenife, sounds like you have it working. ;-)
[03:58] <Kage> hylian: I bought it to play with, its fun, its has a turbo option too
[03:58] <mayenife> lol wont be too productive for my notetaking :p
[03:58] <Kage> hylian: but it seems there are a lot Linux games that joystick support is broken
[03:58] <urlin2u> mayenife, why not eh.
[03:58] <Kage> hylian: comes with open source, I guess
[03:59] <htmlinprogress> hylian,  usb flash drive itself had premissions from windows so i had to reset them , ( hate vista )
[03:59] <mayenife> i wanted to create different tabs: like note name 1, note name 2, etc.
[03:59] <nykur> Anyone here know how to make wireless less buggy? using the rtl8192ce module
[03:59] <Kage> hylian: expect that many of those project developers don't have joysticks so they endup breaking it without knowing
[03:59] <Kage> or a way to test
[03:59] <mayenife> but when i open the tabs, i find each are exactly the same, content and name
[03:59] <zykotick9> urlin2u, "why not eh" what are you canadian?  (i am)
[03:59] <hylian> Kage: Hmm, i have never had any problems getting my logitech to work, however my gaming is with the linux only stuff, and it's always the simple stuff my nephews can play, i.e. supertuxkart.
[03:59] <mayenife> cant edit one without editing all
[03:59] <urlin2u> zykotick9, no but I new you were. ;-)
[04:00] <Kage> hylian: they gamepad works great on supertux
[04:00] <hylian> Kage: could be.
[04:00] <Kage> doesn't work at all on two of the other games
[04:00] <Kage> (one of which I am a developer for)
[04:00] <Kage> >.>
[04:00] <hylian> Kage: yeah, a "gamer" i am not, not really.
[04:00] <Kage> hylian: nor me really
[04:01] <masteroc> Had anyone run ubuntu off an SD card? How as it worked? Near the speed of a HDD?
[04:01] <masteroc> has*
[04:01] <zykotick9> masteroc, much slower then HD
[04:01] <hylian> htmlinprogress: ok, so you where using windows, or a i goofed up with this? i use unetbootin to put a live cd image on my usb, other that storage that's all i do with it.
[04:02] <hylian> masteroc: i have, but just for purposes of installing the os. it ran very fast.
[04:02] <urlin2u> zykotick9, I missread the post I thought it basically said works great I'll use it, so my answer wa why not.
[04:02] <uns0b1ll> any1 had any experience with GNS 3 here ?
[04:03] <masteroc> zykotick9: even a class 10?
[04:03] <hylian> uns0b1ll: sorry, never even hard of it.
[04:03] <uns0b1ll> hylian, its okay ) its very specific software anyway
[04:03] <zykotick9> masteroc, most SD cards interface using USB which is SLOW in compared to IDE/SATA/eSATA
[04:03] <uns0b1ll> what about helping me setup static IP :)
[04:03] <babu> hai
[04:04] <urlin2u> masteroc, class 10 sandisk here good quality runs chunky.
[04:04] <babu> how to see the remote desktop of window pc thru internet from my ubuntu pc
[04:04] <hylian> zykotick9: i used untetbootin to put xubuntu 11.04 on my SD card, it installed ubuntu in about 15 minutes, although xubuntu isn't exactly a taxing install os.
[04:05] <zykotick9> hylian, for install media it's ok, but for running an OS - SLOW
[04:05] <mayenife> By the way..can you get OneNote on ubuntu? thanks everyone for your help tonite, especially urlin2u
[04:05] <sysko> Buenos dias!
[04:05] <hylian> zykotick9: good to know.
[04:05] <sysko> spanish?
[04:05] <hylian> sysko: hello
[04:05] <zykotick9> !es | sysko
[04:05] <hylian> sysko: no hable en espanol
[04:05] <sysko> ok
[04:05] <sysko> speack inglish?
[04:06] <hylian> is there a ubuntu spanish channel?
[04:06] <zykotick9> !es > hylian
[04:06] <sysko> i dont
[04:06] <hylian> !es > sysko
[04:06] <babu> how to see the remote desktop of window pc thru internet from my ubuntu pc
[04:06] <zykotick9> hylian, i already posted to sysko ;)
[04:07] <uns0b1ll> babu, look in your systems-preferences-remote desktop
[04:07] <hylian> zykotick9: oops... :P
[04:07] <masteroc> well thanks for all the info on sd cards!
[04:08] <urlin2u> mayenife, I found this which references a Onenote clone, kde so more dependencies possibly. http://www.asktheadmin.com/2007/07/microsoft-onenote-for-linux-2.html     http://basket.kde.org/
[04:08] <babu> uns0b1ll,  i want to connect over internet
[04:08] <uns0b1ll> rdp protocol works over LAN or WAN, just configure firewalls on both sides
[04:09] <hylian> anyone know why after installing moonlight, silverlight websites still ask you to download and install silverlight?
[04:09] <tp43> My computer is connected to the internet via RJ45, can I use wireless card to share internet, like gateway
[04:09] <mayenife> urlin2u, thanks again. nite all
[04:09] <urlin2u> mayenife, take it easy.
[04:09] <hylian> mayenife: good night! :)
[04:09] <nykur> (just reposting in case someone who just joined knows...) My wireless connection is very jumpy. Using a realtek chip and the rtl8192ce module
[04:11] <xangua> hylian: moonlight doesn't support all silverlight features
[04:11] <hylian> nykur: are you asking a question? (i don't think i caught it...)
[04:12] <nykur> hylian: Yes, I'm having serious issues with my wireless. Don't even know where too start troubleshooting
[04:12] <hylian> xangua but it doesn't even report it's installed. if i atleast had a complaint about it, fine. but it acts as if moonlight is not even installed.
[04:12] <hylian> nykur: ohh boy... well i can try and help ya.
[04:13] <Aple> What's the custom "Open with" command for vim?
[04:13] <nykur> hylian: Many thanks! I'll try to describe the issue...
[04:13] <Eugenicist> What
[04:14] <Eugenicist> 's the command to list channels
[04:14] <nykur> hylian: It will work for a short period of time, then slow down to a halt, even though it says it's connected
[04:14] <Eugenicist> I'm blind at the moment, don't see it in /help
[04:14] <Aple> Answer: gnome-terminal -x vim
[04:14] <bastidrazor> Eugenicist: /msg alis help list
[04:14] <uns0b1ll> How about some compiz training here ?
[04:14] <nykur> did the same on LMDE on different networks
[04:16] <hylian> nykur: strange. when it does, can you try and ping google.com? have you seen if there is any net communications for anything, any port? although i don't know why that would happen.. maybe it's a hardware issue, are you using ndiswrapper?
[04:18] <nykur> hylian: It will work perfectly for a minute, sometimes longer. Then it's like it gets clogged. it'll stay connected but I can't actually connect to anything. I am not using ndiswrapper, maybe I should?
[04:18] <uns0b1ll> how to enable compiz on bootup ?
[04:18] <hylian> nykur: what hardware are you using?
[04:19] <Cpt_Zyph> so to use DD do i need a live cd.. becuase this HP laptop dosnt work off most live disks the video drivers are all messed up..
[04:19] <urlin2u> uns0b1ll, you need to state your actual problem probably, and which distro, and desktop.
[04:19] <Cpt_Zyph> i tried using a clonezilla boot cd but same problem i can't see anything or it errors out.. so figured i would try DD but .. well ya..
[04:20] <owner> I have a problem with my HDMI being used as default in Pulse aduio and the analogue will not work. How do I disable HDMI on my computer so it can't default to it?
[04:20] <nykur> hylian: Realtek RTL8188ce wifi adapter on a Toshiba Satellite Pro c660. Should I be more specific?
[04:21] <nykur> hylian: Do you want output from any particular command?
[04:21] <Cpt_Zyph> can DD be used to clone a drive if an OS is runing on it.. my guess is no.. im just wonder'n what to do sense i can't boot to a live img on this darn laptop..
[04:22] <owner> how do I disable: Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[04:22] <hylian> nykur: no that's good. hmmm.. i'll be honest, i've never had any serious problems with wifi in linux, but i am gonna take a look, brb
[04:22] <nykur> hylian: thanks
[04:23] <owner> is there anyone here that knows about PulseAudio?
[04:24] <Singham> Can any one tell which is better one ? VM Ware or VirtualBox
[04:24] <gr33n7007h> Virtual Box
[04:24] <Gredeu> how well does synergy work on ubuntu.  also -- which direction is which desktop, becasue i don't want my other computer to float to the left past the launchbar ?
[04:24] <zykotick9> Singham, VBox is open source, VMWare is not.
[04:25] <zykotick9> Singham, KVM is faster CPU wise anyways then either
[04:25] <Gredeu> oracle has closed source virtualbox
 : But if I purchase VM Ware ,will it be more powerful ?
[04:25] <nykur> hylian: The funny thing is I used to have another Satellite runnning Xubuntu for years, but it suddenly started acting this way sometime after Hardy or Intrepid.
[04:25] <Gredeu> i heard synergy works great
[04:25] <Gredeu> share mouse and keyboard between 2 computers
[04:25] <zykotick9> Singham, no - it has a couple of cool feature, but I like vbox more (i use kvm though)
 : can you please send me the download link on kvm ?
[04:27] <zykotick9> Gredeu, doesn't look like its closed source http://www.virtualbox.org/ - not saying that it couldn't be
[04:27] <zykotick9> Singham, i'd recommend you use VBox over KVM, it's easier and has 3d support
[04:27] <Gredeu> its not the virtualbox available in the repo there are significant differences
[04:27] <hylian> nykur: ok, i managed to dig up that there is a new driver for that card, and this is a problem with the 11.04, and i think the 10's. here's the link to where i got my info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814675
[04:28] <zykotick9> Singham, PLUS you NEED virt support in your CPU for KVM!!!  "apt-get install kvm" should work
[04:28] <hylian> nykur: so i think yuo need to implement the new driver...
[04:28] <owner> HELLO WORLD IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE!
[04:28] <nykur> hylian: nice, thanks! I'll look into it. I just have to find the driver now:-)
[04:29]  * hylian bebops to "Baltimora - Tarzan Boy"
[04:29] <zykotick9> Gredeu, LOL - you have things backwards, Oracle removed the OSE version and merged the propritary stuff
[04:29] <owner> I need to know how to disable HDMI for good. My sound does not work. SOS Please Help.
[04:29] <hylian> nykur: there is a link to the driver, i believe, on that website.
 : Actually I want to run all the windows games in Virtual Machine.In vbox I am unable to run games like Counter strike.
[04:30] <zykotick9> Singham, you can't run games in ANY virtualization software - sorry not possible
[04:30] <hylian> owner: hmm, let me take a look at that for you, never had anyone ask me that question, what's the sound card, do you know?
[04:31] <hylian> edbian: me amigo!
 : Thanks dude..
[04:31] <nykur> hylian: yes I saw it now thanks. I'll try this. For what it's worth I can confirm that the 3.0 kernel in LMDE does not fix this. Running Natty now so hopefully this will:-)
[04:31] <edbian> hylian: I'd love to talk but I'm busy at the moment :)
[04:31] <hylian> nykur: hope it helps! :)
[04:31] <edbian> hylian: joined #ubuntu because my client does automatically!
[04:32]  * hylian nods to edbian
[04:32] <nykur> hylian: Me to;-)
[04:32] <edbian> :D
[04:33]  * hylian jams to "A-Ha - Take On Me"
[04:33] <IdleOne> hylian: Please turn off that Now Playing script
[04:34] <hylian> IdleOne: it's not a script, it's my retardedness, and yes, i will be quiet :)
[04:34] <owner> hylian thanks for getting back to me: Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) is the one I must disable.
[04:34] <ringberar> hey...new used to ubuntu, was wondering if someone could help me out
[04:34] <owner> I try disabeling it in the PulseAudio sound setings, but it keeps defaulting to it.
[04:34] <lukas1321> does anyone have the gwibber DM problem?
[04:34] <Eugenicist> With?
[04:35] <ringberar> well
[04:35] <hylian> owner: i have seen this before in a dell. we actually had to disable this in the bios itself. are you familiar with your bios?
[04:35] <jeaton> so is most people here pleased with unity?
[04:35] <owner> Yes, however the onboard is what we want, not the video card
[04:35] <owner> hylian
[04:35] <ringberar> my problem is that my partitions on my hard drive are all messed up, and i WANT to install pinguy 11.04 and whenever i try it wont let me install...it always fails to install. im currently on a live cd
[04:36] <hrafnkell_> hylian: nykur here, actually, do you know if it's possible to add this module to a running kernel?
[04:36] <ringberar> or should i say, i want to wipe my drive clean and install pinguy 11.04
[04:36] <ringberar> just having a bit of trouble since i know nothing of ubuntu or linux
[04:36] <owner> hylian it has an NVIDIA graphics card installed and being used, but it appears it's using the HDMI audio on the onboard video.
[04:36] <owner> hylian so I need to figure out how to disable the onboard video for goo?
[04:36] <hylian> owner: i might be wrong here, but i think you have 2 competing sound cards, if i am wrong, then clue me in, and so you have a problem with audio not working.. am I right?
[04:36] <owner> good?
[04:36] <hrafnkell_> hylian:I'm not sure how to add the file
[04:37] <owner> hylian yes.
[04:37] <urlin2u> ringberar, hit install and choose the whole disc when asked,it will overwrite evrything.
[04:37] <owner> hylian the ATI HDMI is taking over the analogue
[04:37] <owner> the option is there but it keeps defaulting back to HDMI.
[04:37] <ringberar> i did
[04:37] <ringberar> and it still fails urlin2u
[04:37] <hylian> owner: i have to admit, with the dell we disabled the intel sound card... hmmm...
[04:38] <zykotick9> hrafnkell_, to add a kernel module use "sudo modprobe FOO"
[04:38] <hylian> hrafnkell_: did you download it already?
[04:38] <owner> I'm going to reboot and try disabeling it in the BIOS
[04:38] <hrafnkell_> hylian: yes, I've downloaded it and extracted the folder.
[04:39] <hylian> hrafnkell_: did you see zykotick9's info? to add a kernel module use "sudo modprobe FOO"
[04:39] <hylian> zykotick9: thanks dude!
[04:40] <hrafnkell_> hylian: yes, and thanks zykotick9:-) I guess it would be a bin file?
[04:41] <hylian> hrafnkell_: well, first you will want to own it, using chown a+x nameofbinfile, then ./nameofbinfile
[04:41] <zykotick9> hrafnkell_, that i don't know, I just commented on your "module running kernel" part - i haven't been following
[04:42] <hrafnkell_> hylian: so I have to chown it, then execute it and then modeprobe?
[04:43] <hrafnkell_> hylian: I'll fire up a terminal...
[04:43] <hylian> hrafnkell_: i think*. hard to go the rest of the way with you since i have never had this hardware or the need to do this myself.
[04:45] <hrafnkell_> hylian: That's alright, I'll manage from here. It's just been a while since I needed to do use the modprobe command. That's what happens when everything "just works" all the time;-)
[04:45] <hylian> hrafnkell_: what a problem to have, LOL.
[04:46] <hylian> hrafnkell_: i can tell you that as far as the binfile stuff is concerned, that i know.
[04:46] <hylian> zykotick9: is IdleOne a bot?
[04:46] <hrafnkell_> hylian: hehe, yeah, even Debian is plug and play now! But many thanks!
[04:47] <hylian> hrafnkell_: cool beans dude. :)
[04:47] <zykotick9> hylian, LOL NO!
[04:47] <IdleOne> hylian: human with bot like attributes.
[04:47] <hylian> IdleOne: ahh, my mistake.
[04:48] <zykotick9> IdleOne, i think this might be the 2nd time i've seen you pass the Turing Test ;)
[04:48] <hylian> IdleOne: i see you are using irssi, like me.
[04:49] <IdleOne> hylian: I'm not. Please feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic so that this channel can be Ubuntu support only.
[04:49] <hylian> IdleOne: ok, thanks.
[04:55] <hylian> i'm beat see you guys later.
[04:56] <Rafase282> hello, how can I conver a .tar.gz file to .img file? it contains a filesystem inside
[04:56] <hatch> (10.04) I plugged in a usb stick, deleted the files off of it but its still showing that the space is used - is there some 'trash' somewhere that needs to be cleared out?
[04:57] <Rafase282> hatch, yes
[04:58] <hatch> excellent and I would access that how?
[04:58] <IdleOne> hatch: usually it is in a .Trash dir
[04:58] <IdleOne> notice the . (dot)
[04:58] <billybigrigger_> in nautilus you can press ctrl-h to show hidden folders/files...the trash bin might show up then
[04:59] <hatch> there it is!
[04:59] <billybigrigger_> or use a command prompt and ls -la will list all hidden files/folders
[04:59] <hatch> ctrl+h was the key
[04:59] <hatch> billybigrigger_: yeah I was going to try that but I coudln't figure out how to access it from the terminal :)]
[04:59] <billybigrigger_> hatch, well atleast you got it
[05:00] <bullgard4_> On my Lucid there does not exist a process syslogd? What is the Lucid successor or substitute of a system logging daemon?
[05:00] <hatch> ok now how to I delete them, when I delete them it goes back into the trash
[05:00] <hatch> :)
[05:01] <hatch> oh there it goes
[05:01] <billybigrigger_> select what you want to delete, then press shift and the delete key
[05:01] <hatch> thanks for the help
[05:01] <gry> Hi! I set System>Preferences>Appearance>Fonts>Details resolution to a large value. Now the window I used to set it doesn't fit the screen, and is also empty. I logged in as another user on the system, it is in sudoers group - what file can I edit to set the value to what it was before? A search wasn't quite informative. Thank you in advance.
[05:01] <obrian> why is my internet flashing on and off on ubuntu?
[05:01] <obrian> does anyone have any idea as to this?
[05:01] <aztek> hi all...
[05:02] <Rafase282> anyone familiar with making bootable img files?
[05:02] <billybigrigger_> gry, are you talking about font dpi?
[05:02] <aztek> any body know how to burn iso using terminal?
[05:02] <gry> billybigrigger_: Yes.
[05:02] <Rafase282> I have a filesystem as a tar.gz file that I want to put on a img file formatted as ext3
[05:03] <billybigrigger_> gry, ok so you have a gui correct?
[05:03] <gry> billybigrigger_: Yes.
[05:03] <Gasseus> Is there any way to get dejavu to backup more then once a day automatically?
[05:03] <billybigrigger_> gry, open gconf-editor
[05:03] <gry> Done.
[05:04] <gry> Desktop, gnome, font rendering, dpi, is it?
[05:04] <billybigrigger_> yup
[05:04] <billybigrigger_> :)
[05:04] <billybigrigger_> not sure if that is user based or system wide though
[05:05] <Singham> what's the diffrence between virtual box open source and licensed version ?
[05:05] <Gasseus> user based
[05:05] <Gasseus> everything in gconf is userbased
[05:07] <Cert> hello. I am having extreme difficulties installing ubuntu, as much as Id like to make the switch to linux, it isnt going very smoothly :(
[05:07] <Cert> I had to install using the nomodset flag, otherwise my display would "bug out"
[05:07] <gry> billybigrigger_: User based.  It worked. :-)
[05:08] <bullgard4_> Cert: Please deliver an exact description. In particular: What error message do you obtain?
[05:08] <Cert> now, after it is installed, I get a GNOME power management error
[05:08] <bullgard4_> Cert: Please deliver an exact description. In particular: What exact error message do you obtain?
[05:09] <Cert> bullgard4_: an exact error message would require a reboot into linux, it was something similar to GNOME power configurations not installed correctly, please contact your sys admin
[05:09] <Cert> I can  certainly get the exact message though if necesary
[05:10] <Gasseus> Cert try regenerating your initramfs
[05:10] <bullgard4_> Cert: I believe that you need to report here the exact error message in order that people here can help you.
[05:11] <melvincv> Hi everyone
[05:12] <melvincv> May I know how to find the domain name from an IP address, other than by nslookup?
[05:12] <gry> I think 'host IP' uses it. So guess not.
[05:13] <bullgard4_> melvincv: Try the whois <ip address> command.
[05:13] <ringberar> urlin2u
[05:13] <ringberar> u there?
[05:13] <gry> The 'whois' is a pain to parse, if you want to use that for programming. It uses arin.net to obtain the results.
[05:13] <melvincv> Thanks, but right now I'm on windows. And a whois search on the Internet did not give me what I wanted...
[05:16] <owen1> i try to connect my laptop using vga to the tv. i reboot the laptop while the cable is connected. I see the splash screen but that's it. i can't see my computer on the tv anymore. the alt+f7 on my thinkpad is not doing anything. any ideas?
[05:19] <neeraj> I am unable to connect to network using my system. I accidently removed the network manager packages? What all basic packages should I download so that I can connect to wifi. PS: I am using another system for downloading stuff
[05:20] <bullgard4_> neeraj: I do not understand why you are using another system for downloading stuff and asking here in this channel for help.
[05:22] <neeraj> bullgard4, As I am unable to connect to internet using Natty(It is not detecting ethernet and not showing wifi notifications applet), So I will need to download the packages by using another system. I just wanted to know what all basic deb files I should download. Is this clear now?
[05:23] <bullgard4_> neeraj: How did you install Natty?
[05:23] <susundbe1g> neeraj: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/
[05:23] <susundbe1g> (search package there, and you will see the dependencies)
[05:24] <susundbe1g> neeraj: i would still go for manual network setup rather than move packages and install them manually
[05:24] <susundbe1g> (with ethernet: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/ )
[05:26] <neeraj> bullgard4, I installed it using bootable using pendrive, months back.  susundbe1g thanks !
[05:31] <bullgard4_> On my Lucid there does not exist a process syslogd? What is the Lucid successor or substitute of a system logging daemon?
[05:35] <chpe88> I need some help...I'm getting this error message trying to install Ubuntu Server on an AMD Athlon 64 system:  Unable to install the selected kernel;  Kernel package:  'linux-server'
[05:35] <chpe88> should I try to install x86?
[05:36] <Guest3115> hey all, sorry guys may i ask a question here about back|track or i got the wrong place ?
[05:37] <e_t_> Guest3115: BackTrack is pretty heavily customized. You'd have better luck on a forum or channel dedicated to it.
[05:38] <Guest3115> e_t_, thanks, it sounds like it's not my thing since I'm a new dude in this field, is that correct?
[05:39] <chpe88> anyone available to answer my question?
[05:39] <e_t_> !ask | chpe88
[05:39] <bullgard4_> chpe88: I would search in Launchpad for your exact error message.
[05:39] <e_t_> chpe88: sorry, didn't see your question earlier
[05:41] <e_t_> Guest3115: BackTrack is designed for penetration testing. If you're new to Linux and just want to get your feet wet, it's probably not for you.
[05:41] <bullgard4_> Guest3115: Newcomers to Linux should not use backtracks.
[05:42] <bullgard4_> Guest3115: (Bad English.) I meant: Newcomers to Linux better do not use backtracks.
[05:44] <Guest3115> e_t_, bullgard4_ thanks guys :) should i start with Linux Mint? i have been suggested that OS for many guys, is that really cool one for freshman ?
[05:45] <sunit> when I am trying to ssh with ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I am getting error ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[05:45] <lion42> Guest3115, this is, if you have not yet noticed, a channel about #ubuntu. We generally sort of maybe like ubuntu, and most of us think its pretty good for new users.
[05:45] <e_t_> Guest3115: I started with Kubuntu, but I've heard good things about Mint too, though I've never used it myself.
[05:45] <bullgard4_> Guest3115: I believe that Mint is graphically appealing for freshmen. But you will get more help using Ubuntu.
[05:47] <bullgard4_> sunit: 'man ssh' will probably tell you why.
[05:47] <Guest3115> e_t_, bullgard4_ Thanks nice guys :)
[05:47] <tntc> Guest3115: Personally, I've used Gentoo, Debian, RedHat, OpenSuSE, etc. etc.,
[05:48] <tntc> Guest3115: Ubuntu (stock ubuntu) seems to have the best support for general desktop usage.
[05:48] <Guest3115> I have heard OpenSuSE is extremely hard... i overheard that its the hardest Linux out there
[05:48] <tntc> Guest3115: That's not entirely correct. There is a lot of oneclick stuff that makes life in opensuse easier
[05:49] <tntc> Guest3115: I would say gentoo is probably the most challenging to install (other than Linux from Scratch)
[05:50] <Guest3115> tntc, your suggestion is to start with Linux gentoo ?
[05:50] <lion42> ...
[05:50] <tntc> Guest3115: no, I would start with Ubuntu, and install gentoo in a VM.
[05:50] <lion42> not unless you have three days, very patient friends, and a strong desire to inflict pain upon yourself.
[05:50] <bambanx> how can i use ls commando on console for this show me all files to begin with specific letter?
[05:51] <lion42> Masochism is absolutely essential. You -cannot- skip that step.
[05:51] <tntc> Gentoo gives an important understanding of how the kernel and such works, but it is terrible for day-to-day use.
[05:51] <bambanx> for example ls sort me all files wich begin with letter A ?
[05:52] <tntc> bambanx: ls a* ?
[05:52] <Guest3115> tntc, got it:) thanks Sr for explanation, ok ill do so... ill remove backtrack now and install gemtoo and ubuntu )
[05:52] <bullgard4_> bambanx: "All"? Then you better use the find command.
[05:53] <tntc> Guest3115: I'd install Ubuntu, and then install Virtualbox
[05:53] <lion42> Guest3115, -just- install ubuntu for now
[05:53] <lion42> and -then- worry about exploring other os
[05:53] <tntc> Guest3115: Virtualbox will let you test a variety of linux distributions in a safe, contained way
[05:54] <Guest3115> tntc, I think in my case it would be better not using VB... because im running TB HDD and have no luck of space, would't this be better ?
[05:54] <ubuntu_> what kind of people have virtual box
[05:54] <Guest3115> lion42, Thanks so i don't need this so-called "Linux Mint" im pretty new i have no idea which works how...
[05:54] <lion42> Guest3115, you are a noob. partitioning manually = things can go wrong. Hard os = things can go wrong.
[05:54] <tntc> Guest3115: dual booting is kind of a pain. It requires a lot more work
[05:55] <lion42> Start with -just- ubuntu and go from there.
[05:55] <bambanx> for example ls show me all directories wich begin with letter D ?
[05:55] <ubuntu_> there are no similations
[05:55] <duineANaithnid> hey everyone, is there anyone who can help me out with some indicator applet questions?
[05:56] <tntc> bambanx: find -name "D*"
[05:56] <bullgard4_> !prefix | bambanx
[05:56] <tntc> bambanx: though that will show files too
[05:56] <ubuntu_> )
[05:57] <bambanx> tntc the find command look for on all my pc on the actual directorie of console?
[05:57] <bambanx> tntc sorry for my english is bad =)
[05:57] <Guest3115> tntc, lion42 got it guys:) thanks... sounds like im going to install ubuntu for now, as i done ill be back for some basic questions, thanks guys for support and your time
[05:58] <edbian> Guest3115: Linux is awesome!
[05:58] <Guest3115> edbian, for those who handle it well, for sure it is...
[05:58] <tntc> bambanx: it looks in the directory you tell it. find / -name "D*" will get all files starting with D
[05:58] <tntc> Guest3115: Good luck :)
[05:58] <Guest3115> :)
[05:59] <tntc> bambanx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Find has some decent examples.
[05:59] <bambanx> tntc thanks and what can i do if i need a list of directories wich begin with specific letter ?
[06:00] <anaithnid> join #ubuntu
[06:00] <ubuntu_> why linux
[06:01] <sunit> bullgard4_ : even when I am trying to ssh connect from remote machine I am getting error  -  Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer
[06:01] <anaithnid> anyone here who can help me with an indicator applet question?
[06:01] <e_t_> anaithnid: ask your question and find out.
[06:02] <wildbat> bambanx: find / -name "D*" -type d
[06:02] <wildbat> !anyone | anaithnid
[06:02] <bullgard4_> sunit:  You could try to find the culprit in /var/log/auth.log too.
[06:03] <GypsiRae> anyone here?
[06:03] <bullgard4_> no
[06:03] <GypsiRae> TT_TT
[06:03] <GypsiRae> I've never used IRC before'
[06:03] <bambanx> thanks wildbat
[06:03] <chris57> i have the asus m4a88td-m/usb3 board and i am having a lot of trouble getting it set up. It gives me a black screen when trying to boot and i have to reset the computer. I read it has something to do with the pata controller and when i unplugged my pata dvd drives i got it to boot. Is there a fix to make it work with the drives?
[06:03] <lion42> Join channel with over 1000 users. Ask "anyone here???"
[06:04] <anaithnid> well I am wondering how to go about removing redundant items (empathy and pidgeon) and what else I can do with it, I cou;d not find to much about where to even start looking for myself
[06:04] <bambanx> wildbat this show me to much thnigs , i cannot read the first lines on  console
[06:04] <ubuntu_> linux is good for estudy the system
[06:04] <bullgard4_> !ask | GypsiRae
[06:05] <wildbat> bambanx: find / -name "D*" -type d 2 > /dev/null
[06:05] <wildbat> bambanx: find / -name "D*" -type d 2> /dev/null
[06:06] <ubuntu_> why the aconecions are still not ssh
[06:06] <bambanx> thanks wildbat
[06:06] <GypsiRae> okay, well I recently edited an xcf file, cropped it, saved over and gimp quit. I thought I only changed one file but the jpg that originally came from the xcf file ended up cropped as well even tho its thumbnail is the full version. I want an uncropped version because i spent four days on it! is there any way I can restore the xcf file or jpg?? esp since the jpg's thumbnail knows what it really looks like?
[06:07] <sunit> bullgard4_ : please see http://pastebin.com/a7By0tNR  where can get auth.log
[06:08] <ubuntu_> save tin other format and kepp current cuality
[06:08] <wildbat> GypsiRae: highly unlikely , thou you can try with photorec.
[06:09] <GypsiRae> why would both files have changed, tho, if I only saved it once??
[06:09] <ubuntu_> its only a sugestion
[06:09] <GypsiRae> I am running scalpel atm, will try photorec next
[06:10] <GypsiRae> query: the thumbnail refuses to show cropped version, despite restart and refreshes. does that mean the uncropped version exists somewhere??
[06:10] <wildbat> GypsiRae: may be when you close it, it ask you to save and you clicked it
[06:11] <GypsiRae> that doesn't explain the obstinate thumbnail tho eh?
[06:12] <bullgard4_> sunit: Here is the culprit: "# Aug 22 11:12:00 starlite-laptop sshd[6045]: error: @@@; Aug 22 11:12:00 starlite-laptop sshd[6045]: error: Permissions 0777 for '/etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key' are too open. # Aug 22 11:12:00 starlite-laptop sshd[6045]: error: It is recommended that your private key files are NOT accessible by others. # Aug 22 11:12:00 starlite-laptop sshd[6045]: error: This...
[06:12] <bullgard4_> ...private key will be ignored."
[06:13] <wildbat> GypsiRae: thumbnail is just cached, presized pic. it don't reflect any thing
[06:14] <Liz> Hi. I am having problems booting xubuntu 11.04
[06:14] <GypsiRae> I just don't understand how saving one image would change two
[06:14] <GypsiRae> I guess i clicked something without seeing it idk idk
[06:14] <Guest60556> it loads the kernel but the graphics never load.
[06:14] <lizbeth> Hi. I am having problems booting xubuntu 11.04
[06:15] <lizbeth> it loads the kernel but the graphics never load.
[06:15] <wildbat> GypsiRae: may be ~ may be you exported one and saved one
[06:15] <GypsiRae> does GIMP save temp images that might could get grabbed by scalpel??
[06:15] <urlin2u> lizbeth, fresh install?
[06:15] <wildbat> GypsiRae: may be ~ search /tmp
[06:15] <lizbeth> urlin2u, almost. I had 10.10 with /home in a separate partition.
[06:16] <lizbeth> urlin2u, I installed xubuntu 11.04 over that with the same /home
[06:16] <urlin2u> lizbeth, choose r=the reovery and failsafe in the next gui scroll with the arrow buttond=s 4th or 5th linr down.
[06:17] <urlin2u> r= misstype lizbeth
[06:17] <lizbeth> urlin2u, I am on the recovery right now.
[06:17] <K-Rich> hi all
[06:17] <lizbeth> What do?
[06:17] <urlin2u> choose failsafe scrool to that line
[06:18] <wildbat> !hello | K-Rich
[06:19] <urlin2u> lizbeth, in recovery did you mean the desktop?
[06:19] <lizbeth> urlin2u, its on a loop right now.
[06:19] <lizbeth> urlin2u, no I mean the recovery option when you are booting and want to correct errors.
[06:20] <urlin2u> lizbeth, didn't go to a command line from the failsafe?
[06:20] <lizbeth> urlin2u, it kicked me back into the option menu of the recovery mode. FailsafeX didn't worked.
[06:21] <lizbeth> urlin2u, nop, it kicked me back into the menu with the "resume", "clean", "dpkg", etc options.
[06:21] <urlin2u> lizbeth, try hitting e and replacing splash in the kernel with nomodeset, then crtl-x to boot
[06:21] <urlin2u> lizbeth, last was for at gry=ub menu.
[06:22] <urlin2u> grub
[06:22] <lizbeth> urlin2u, ok. What do I do on the grub menu now?
[06:22] <urlin2u> het e and replace splash with nomodeset then hot crtl-x to boot
[06:23] <urlin2u> hit/hit
[06:23]  * K-Rich wants what urlin2u has been smoking
[06:23] <K-Rich> :)
[06:23] <lizbeth> urlin2u, e doesn't do anything besides printing an e on the screen.
[06:25] <urlin2u> lizbeth, at the grub menu e does not open the edit
[06:25] <lizbeth> urlin2u, nop
[06:26] <ubuntu_> i know how works a pen
[06:26] <urlin2u> lizbeth, strange it should with a new install and a separate home I have no idea otherwise.
[06:27] <lizbeth> Do you want me to start a sesion as root from the grub?
[06:27] <lizbeth> in terminal mode?
[06:27] <lizbeth> urlin2u,
[06:27] <urlin2u> lizbeth, know what the grub menu is at poweron right?
[06:27] <urlin2u> you
[06:28] <GypsiRae> okay here is a questino. I just recovered a lot of files with scalpel, but they are unknown file type and won't open. how do i open files scalpel has recovered??
[06:28] <lizbeth> The one which let you choose among recovery and normal?
[06:28] <lizbeth> urlin2u,
[06:28] <bullgard4_> On my Lucid there does not exist a process syslogd. What is the Lucid successor or substitute of a system logging daemon?
[06:28] <urlin2u> lizbeth, that is where your getting no e for edit?
[06:29] <htmlinprogress> hi
[06:29] <lizbeth> urlin2u, got it now.
[06:29] <lizbeth> ubuntu linux 2.6.23-8-generic.
[06:30] <urlin2u> hit e then replace splash with nomodeset
[06:30] <htmlinprogress> i have an iso, how do i use the checksome (fedora 14)
[06:30] <urlin2u> or after it
[06:30] <bullgard4_> htmlinprogress: This is the Ubuntu help channel.
[06:31] <urlin2u> htmlinprogress, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[06:31] <GypsiRae> they are .art files? how do I open then??
[06:31] <GypsiRae> *them
[06:32] <urlin2u> lizbeth, after the edit hit crtl-x for boot
[06:32] <lizbeth> urlin2u, now I can see the sesion manager but it doesn't pass beyond that. Its a progress at least :D
[06:33] <urlin2u> lizbeth, the only theory if all is in order that the fstab isn't mounting home, not my area though seperate home.
[06:34] <lizbeth> urlin2u, in recovery mode on terminal the command 'ls' seems to work.
[06:34] <lizbeth> with the home I have. urlin2u
[06:34] <urlin2u> lizbeth, still beyond my help really.
[06:35] <lizbeth> urlin2u, thanks. Do you know any command to reconfigure x server?
[06:36] <urlin2u> lizbeth, ?? is this it http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xorg
[06:38] <bullgard4_> lizbeth: ~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
[06:42] <ubuntu_> jer jer have debian programed another kernel
[06:42] <bazhang> ubuntu_, debian? ask in #debian
[06:42] <ubuntu_> ok, thanks
[06:43] <ubuntu_> firetarter brokes so easy
[06:44] <bazhang> ubuntu_, try gufw?
[06:44] <bazhang> !info gufw | ubuntu_
[06:45] <htmlinprogress> bullgard4,  duh ,,,, i  just try to get help  with the check some, the os is  not important
[06:45] <htmlinprogress> urlin2u,  thanks
[06:46] <Thorn> hello. I need to start a daemon which requires X (actually dbus) when an X server starts or user logs in, how do I do that automatically?
[06:46] <urlin2u> htmlinprogress, no problem.
[06:46] <bullgard4_> htmlinprogress: You are seeking help from the Ubuntu community but you are not contributin gto the well-being of the ubuntu community.
[06:47] <ubuntu_> these questions are dificult for me
[06:47] <ubuntu_> have you helped....
[06:47] <honsen> oicebot
[06:49] <bazhang> !cn | honsen
[06:49] <glebihan> Thorn, build an upstart script and use "start on dbus started" as a start condition
[06:50] <glebihan> Thorn, see http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ for details on upstart
[06:50] <Guest95783> what
[06:51] <htmlinprogress> bullgard4,  ture at this monument ,yes  but i have spent whole days on here helping or learning,,,,, not to forget im getting old as the linux fan
[06:51] <Thorn> glebihan: thanks, looking now
[06:52] <bullgard4_> htmlinprogress: Ok. No worries.
[06:52] <htmlinprogress> ok
[06:52] <Guest95783> hello everyone
[06:52] <htmlinprogress> hi
[06:53] <Guest95783> so , this is a command
[06:53] <Guest95783> interesting
[06:53] <GummyBear> hello everybody... skuse me... I need help with this: wanna echoing the numbers inside a string (i.e. mystring32, then echoing only 32)... how do I do?
[06:55] <e_t_> GummyBear: You may want to look up how to turn a string into an array. Then you can return the values you want from the array.
[06:56] <gry> GummyBear: good question
[06:57] <GummyBear> e_t_: is there any fast method with AWK??
[06:57] <whoppergator> GummyBear: echo "string123" | grep -o '[0-9]*'
[06:58]  * Guest95783 is a pink bunny
[06:58] <GummyBear> whoppergator: ok, it looks like I'm looking for... let me try
[06:59] <bullgard4_> GummyBear: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man3/string.3erl.html
[06:59] <GummyBear> whoppergator: no, I've no oputput
[07:00] <sunit> bullgard4_: what shall I do ?
[07:00] <whoppergator> GummyBear: what did you type in exactly?
[07:00] <GummyBear> I'm trying with AWK but is printing all the entire line... DEVICE=`echo $STRING | awk 'BEGIN { FS = "/" } ; /[0-9]*/ { print $4 }'`
[07:01] <GypsiRae> OMG photorec is getting corrupted versions of my gimp file!! that means I'm only two days of work behind instead of four
[07:01] <GummyBear> whoppergator: I need only the numeric part of a string... where string is string123 I need only '123' as output...
[07:01] <bullgard4_> sunit: Give less access rights to that file.
[07:02] <Abc1> hi..how can I disable screec lock password ?
[07:02] <whoppergator> GummyBear: don't use ``, use $(), so try DEVICE=$(echo $STRING | grep -o '[0-9]*')
[07:02] <GummyBear> whoppergator: one guy suggested me to treat the string as an array... is a cool solution, but I don't know if with AWK is there any 'only one line' solution
[07:02] <Guest95783> help
[07:02] <Guest95783> hi
[07:02] <gry> with?
[07:03] <Guest95783> hi , i want my machine boots faster , how can i achieve that ?
[07:04] <whoppergator> GummyBear: I've tested both suggestions that I've sent to you and both work. What results are you getting?
[07:04] <Guest95783> and  my sys is 11.04
[07:04] <ttmrichter|work> Is there any way in which I can tell udev to forget an old piece of hardware?  I've got a problem in a virtual machine where an old NIC's information (MAC => name mapping) is making a new NIC get named as eth1 instead of eth0, although all the networking setup references eth0.
[07:04] <ttmrichter|work> Current system is 10.04.3
[07:04] <Mortah> hello. I'm hoping someone can point me to the right words to google. Just installed 11.04. 10.10 was fine but the upgrade broke :D Now, whenever I open a menu for the first time all my windows disappear for about a second and then reappear. But, it only happens on a menu that hasn't been opened before.. :S
[07:05] <GummyBear> whoppergator: ok, I'm using your solution... it did it... I was making a pipe after my AWK script but nothing else was happen, now using the grep expression alone with the AWK result is working
[07:05] <Guest95783> Wow
[07:05] <GummyBear> whoppergator: thanks a lot friend :D
[07:05] <Mortah> Guest95783: get an SSD. By far the best investment you can make for speed :)
[07:05] <whoppergator> GummyBear: you shouldn't need awk at all, but if you have something that works, then i am content :)
[07:05] <valthyx> hello, just upgraded my ubuntu, to ubuntu 11.04. It looks totally different. The startup menu is not there anymore, which is difficult for me to find applications as i have categorised them in the startup menu. Any solutions to bring back the old interface?
[07:06] <Guest95783> Mortah: what is SSD
[07:06] <Mortah> valthyx: on the login screen after selecting your username there are some options at the bottom
[07:06] <Mortah> probably says "unity" atm
[07:06] <Mortah> change it to ubuntu classic :)
[07:06] <GummyBear> whoppergator: oh, ok, I found why it was not working, I had a bad sintax... now is right: DEVICE=`echo $STRING | awk 'BEGIN { FS = "/" } ; /[0-9]*/ { print $4 }'  | grep -o '[0-9]*'`
[07:06] <Mortah> solid state drive, type of hard drive
[07:07] <bullgard4_> Abc1: Probably System > Administration > Login Screen > Unlock > Screensaver > De-assert "Lock screen when screen saver is active".
[07:07] <urlin2u> valthyx, at the login window choose your user name look at the bottom panel and choose the classic desktop
[07:07] <valthyx> Mortah, thank you, maybe i again know where is the menu.lst for boot sequence?
[07:07] <Mortah> no idea
[07:08] <Guest95783> Mortah: what should i do exactly , give me a step by step method
 : Thanks dude...Hpoe it works.. :)
[07:08] <Mortah> Guest95783: sorry I haven't got the time to do that. Try google
[07:08] <bullgard4_> :-)
[07:08] <valthyx> urlin2u, thank you. Do you know where the grub menu.lst is located? i tried to find in boot folber, but couldnt find
[07:08] <whoppergator> GummyBear: i don't fully understand what the awk is doing in the middle, but if it works you should go with it :)
[07:08] <Guest95783> valthyx: hi , what your problem
[07:09] <Guest95783> Mortah: thanks anyway
[07:09] <valthyx> i would like to chenge the boot menu order
[07:09] <valthyx> *change
[07:09] <whoppergator> ttmrichter|work: you can control udev, and its exclusion rules through the /etc/udev/rules.d/ local configuration folder
[07:09] <Guest95783> valthyx: do you know grub
[07:09] <GummyBear> whoppergator: the awk script is need as I need only the part at $4, basically the fifth column... avoiding the AWK script makes the entire line is parsed by grep and returning all the other numeric values (of course, I only need those at the fifth column)
[07:10] <valthyx> Guest95783, yes,
[07:10] <valthyx> Guest95783, is it grub.cfg?
[07:10] <GummyBear> whoppergator: c/is need/is needed
[07:10] <Guest95783> valthy: there is a way to edit the grup config file
[07:10] <Guest95783> valthyx, you can do that
[07:11] <whoppergator> GummyBear: oO! yeah that's good then. you might also check out 'cut' which is handy for delimeter splitting
[07:11] <overclucker> valthyx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[07:11] <Guest95783> valthyx, do you using the ubuntu 10.04
[07:12] <ruby_on_tails> where can i find the configuration editor on ubuntu ?
[07:12] <whoppergator> valthyx: /etc/default/grub
[07:12] <ruby_on_tails> GUI Configuration Editor
[07:12] <Guest95783> valthyx, right , checkout the overclucker send to you
[07:12] <valthyx> Guest95783, ubuntu 11.04
[07:12] <whoppergator> ruby_on_tails: configuration editor for what? for gnome, there is gconf-editor
[07:13] <ttmrichter|work> whoppergator: Is there any way to get udev to not just tack on to the end of 70-persistent-net-rules?
[07:13] <valthyx> whoppergator, thank you
[07:13] <ttmrichter|work> The problem is that instead of wiping out the file and rebuilding based on existing hardware it just tacks on an extra record.
[07:13] <Guest95783> valthyx, yeah , ok , could you tell me what you want to do again , i was forgetable
[07:13] <ttmrichter|work> Every time the MAC changes.
[07:13] <xeux> question - anyway to strip the GUI out of ubuntu desktop?
[07:14] <xeux> sort of like - convert it to ubuntu server
[07:14] <valthyx> Guest95783, i have runnign on a dual boot machine. windows and linux, so i would like to change their positions
[07:14] <melvincv_> perhaps remove the package ubuntu-desktop ?
[07:15] <Guest95783> valthyx, you want to change the order in grub , and you want to login win first, right?
[07:15] <whoppergator> xeux: of course you may remove all gui packages from a desktop install. then you could switch the sources to the server sources and you would be running ubuntu server after an update. it might be easier though just to start from scratch with a server install
[07:15] <melvincv_> But it's better to install Ubuntu Server than just strip the GUI...
[07:15] <overclucker> valthyx: read the section on configuring grub 2 in the link i gave you.
[07:15] <melvincv_> The kernel is different
[07:15] <valthyx> okay
[07:15] <sunit> bullgard4_ : 550 ?
[07:15] <valthyx> Guest95783, yes
[07:15] <xeux> thanks whopper
[07:16] <Guest95783> valthyx, there is a easy way , download a software in ubuntu , it is small!
[07:16] <whoppergator> ttmrichter|work: i'm not sure i understand what you are trying to do. are you trying to exclude a specific piece of hardware?
[07:16] <Atharva> Hey !! can anyone tell me that what's the diffrence between virtual box free edition and paid edition ?
[07:16] <ttmrichter|work> whoppergator: I'm trying to exclude a device that no longer exists.
[07:17] <Guest95783> valthyx, it is "startup manager"
[07:17] <ttmrichter|work> I've changed the MAC in my virtual machine.
[07:17] <melvincv_> The free edition does not have USB 2.0 support.
[07:17] <Guest95783> valthyx,  in the ubuntu software
[07:17] <ttmrichter|work> udev is seeing this as new hardware (correctly) but not noticing that the old hardware is no longer there.
[07:17] <ttmrichter|work> So my "old" hardware (the old MAC) is still set up as eth0, despite there being no backing hardware.
[07:17] <valthyx> Guest95783, ok, thank you
[07:18] <GummyBear> whoppergator: ok... I'll do... thanks a lot again :)
[07:18] <ttmrichter|work> And my "new" hardware is being named to eth1, which is causing problems.
[07:18] <Guest95783> valthyx, my pleasure
 : Does it also have more powerful motherboard settings ?
[07:19] <Mortah> ok... looks like gnome is broken for me
[07:19] <Mortah> KDE runs with no flicker :D
[07:19] <valthyx> by the way, is there any way to delete the linux version that i am not using?
[07:19]  * Guest95783 is a pink bunny
[07:20] <Guest95783> yes
[07:20] <valthyx> for example, in the grup menu, i have a newer version and an older version, i would like to delete the newer version from my computer, how do i do that?
[07:20] <whoppergator> ttmrichter|work: i'm not sure why eth1 is causing problems, but something is definitely not right if it shows eth0 and there is no device
[07:20] <Guest95783> valthyx, wait a sec , let me check my 11.04
[07:21] <valthyx> Guest95783, okay
[07:21] <whoppergator> valthyx: yes, you can purge the older kernel, then run update-grub
[07:22] <valthyx> whoppergator, how do i purge it?
[07:22] <valthyx> i am sorry, i am still new to linux
[07:23] <bullgard4_> sunit: 550 is probably too restrictive. But I do not know the best value. I myself would probably start with 550. If it does not work, I would gradually allow more access rights.
[07:23] <ttmrichter|work> whoppergator: eth1 is a problem because there's nothing in /etc/network/interfaces for eth1 (or eth2 if this gets further cloned and so on).
[07:23] <whoppergator> valthyx: np at all. if you are new, you should consider keeping the old kernel for backup/emergency cases
[07:23] <Guest95783> valthyx, to remove the new kernel from grub list , you should do
[07:24] <ttmrichter|work> So when the new guest OS is launched, it has no network active.  I have to go in and hand-edit files to make it work, which kind of resists automation.
[07:24] <valthyx> whoppergator, actually i want to remove the newer kernel, some of my devices do not work
[07:25] <[deXter]> Hi all, xsane takes a long time to search for my network scanner. Is there a way I can force it to look at a specific IP? (the scanner has a static IP)
[07:25] <Guest95783> valthyx,  you should  just edit the  grub.cfg
[07:25] <whoppergator> valthyx: take a look at uname -a for your current kernel version, then do an apt-cache search linux-image to see your options. then you can apt-cache purge the newest and run update-grub
[07:26] <whoppergator> valthyx: sorry, that's 'apt-get purge' at the end there
[07:27] <valthyx> whoppergator, thanks alot.
[07:27] <ttmrichter|work> nexian
[07:27] <Guest95783> hi , i want my my computer boot faster , is there any way to make it ?
[07:28] <ttmrichter|work> D'oh!  Sorry, braino there.
[07:29] <lizbeth> I am having problems starting the desktop environment in ubuntu 11.04. I think its because of ati driver.
[07:29] <lizbeth> Does someone know how to fix that?
[07:30] <bullgard4_> Guest95783: Use a newer Ubuntu distribution.
[07:30] <Guest95783> bullgard4, mine 11.04
[07:31] <Guest95783> bullgard4,  i means: to forbidden sth  to let the os boots faster
[07:31] <kapilkaisare> Greetings all. I am trying to edit the /etc/hosts file of my 11.04 installation to use a few hosts via a VPN I intend to use. Trouble is, whenever I restart the system, the /etc/hosts file returns to its original state. Does anyone have an idea why it might be happening? I tried using auditd to watch the file, and I get a possible write by a check-new-release - most likely a python script.
[07:31] <whoppergator> Guest95783: what are you finding to be slow? how many seconds does it take currently?
[07:31] <MoFlux88> :D
[07:31] <bullgard4_> Guest95783: My Ubuntu 11.10 boots even faster than Ubuntu 11.04. But I can not recommend it to you using it before October or November, 2011.
[07:31] <Guest95783> whoppergator, about 39 secs
[07:32] <[deXter]> Guest95783: Take a look at startup applications and you'll find several things you can uncheck, like the bluetooth stuff. Also, depends on your partition layout.. if you can put your / right a the top of the drive (after /boot, ofc) it'll be better
[07:32] <Guest95783> bullgard4, Wow , you are using 11.10
[07:32] <bullgard4_> Guest95783: Yes.
[07:32] <Guest95783> fantastica
[07:33] <lizbeth> I am having problems starting the desktop environment in ubuntu 11.04.
[07:33] <lizbeth> Does someone know how to fix that?
[07:33] <bullgard4_> Guest95783: If you do not use the X Server, your computer will boot much faster.
[07:33] <whoppergator> !patience | lizbeth
[07:33] <Guest95783> deXter, yeah you right , i
[07:33] <Guest95783> have done that
[07:34] <bullgard4_> lizbeth: Please analyze your dmesg log.
[07:35] <Guest95783> bullgard4, ok , i have forbidden that .
[07:35] <lizbeth> bullgard4, how?
[07:35] <whoppergator> ttmrichter|work: sorry i'm not more help with your issue, it doesn't sound like a configuration issue to me, but something old thing still hanging around from before. maybe you could purge and reinstall, but i don't know if that's safe for udev on a running system
[07:36] <bullgard4_> lizbeth: By reading this text and understanding the messages about desktop environment.
[07:36] <ttmrichter|work> whoppergator: purge and reinstall what?
[07:36] <whoppergator> lizbeth: dmesg | less
[07:37] <whoppergator> ttmrichter|work: udev? i'm just shooting in the dark here. if there was some way to completely rebuild the intial networking settings, i would say go for it
[07:38] <goer> Are ther any animated .png  (?) icons I can use on the Gnome Panel for my Luckybackup
[07:38] <lizbeth> bullgard4, whoppergator I am reading it but can't see anything interesting.
[07:38] <almagest> Hello. During some group management, i accidentaly did a usermod -g instead of a usermod -G (replace instead of add). Now im unable to 'use' sudo. Can anyone assist me please? Id be very grateful
[07:38] <ttmrichter|work> whoppergator: This is still not a solution for automating the process of creating test servers.  I can't purge and reinstall udev without putting in a manual step to do so.
[07:39] <ttmrichter|work> I need to be able to clone a VM with new MAC addresses and actually have Ubuntu *WORK*.  Currently this isn't happening.  :(
[07:40] <jpds> ttmrichter|work: Have you deleted 70-persistent-net.rules ?
[07:40] <ttmrichter|work> jpds: Yes.
[07:40] <ttmrichter|work> And edited it and ...
[07:40] <overclucker> kapilkaisare: i'm not sure that it is still true, but i remember having a problem where NetworkManager would make alterations to /etc/hosts on boot. In my case, simply changing the file to immutable solved the issue. sudo chattr +i /etc/hosts. chattr -i to make it mutable again.
[07:40] <dttah> hey guys i have a question, exactly what filesystem type should be a partition(fat...ext4... etc) for Data file purposes ? my filesystem partition is ext4
[07:41] <ttmrichter|work> When I clone the VM, however, there's obviously a 70-*.rules.
[07:41] <ttmrichter|work> And that's when the problem happens.
[07:41] <whoppergator> kapilkaisare: what edits are you making. network-manager controls some of those settings
[07:41] <ttmrichter|work> Udev is just not smart enough to figure out that the eth0 hardware no longer exists and instead tacks on a new entry.
[07:42] <almagest> to be able to use sudo, which group do i have to be part in, admin? can anyone running ubuntu please do a groups <username> to check?
[07:42] <dttah> hey guys i have a question, exactly what filesystem type should be a partition(fat...ext4... etc) for Data file purposes ? my filesystem partition is ext4
[07:42] <overclucker> almagest: admin is the default ubuntu sudo group
[07:42] <ttmrichter|work> dttah: What kind of data and what use case scenario?
[07:42] <whoppergator> ttmrichter|work: is there anything you can do with udevadm?
[07:43] <kapilkaisare> overclucker, That looks like it might just work! Danke!
[07:43] <lizbeth> I am having problems starting the desktop environment in ubuntu 11.04. XFCE loads when I start recovery session as root but doesn't load when I try to start it as a regular user.