[00:03] <skypce> hello all
[00:03] <skypce> i want something like : <super>+w
[00:03] <skypce> but for apps
[00:03] <wastrel> what's super w
[00:03] <skypce> in unity
[00:03] <wastrel> what does it do
[00:04] <dtigue> in gnome-shell super+a gives you all apps, not sure how to do that in unity
[00:04] <DarthSonikku> It makes an ordinary w a SUPER ONE! > wastrel :)
[00:04] <skypce> by example a shortcut for show all instances of firefox opened? instead all workspace apps opened
[00:04] <DarthSonikku> dtigue: Super + !
[00:04] <DarthSonikku> dtigue: Super + *A
[00:05] <skypce> do you understand me?
[00:05] <skypce> i am using unity
[00:06] <dtigue> try super + s
[00:06] <skypce> no no dtigue
[00:06] <skypce> it is complex
[00:06] <skypce> i want do a shortcut in other launcher
[00:06] <skypce> not in unity launcher
[00:06] <wastrel> what's super anyway
[00:07] <dtigue> skypce, there is a shortcut for that in unity, if you hold down the super button it shows all the keyboard shortcuts
[00:07] <dtigue> wastrel, super = the windows button on most keyboards
[00:08] <wastrel> what do mac keyboard users do about that
[00:08] <skypce> dtigue, you can automatize shortcuts with xdotool
[00:08] <dtigue> idk, haha, I use OS X on my mac
[00:08] <skypce> xdotool key super + w
[00:08] <skypce> i am looking in the source code of unity
[00:09] <skypce> but i dont know where go
[00:09] <dtigue> skypce, yea I got ya, i don't have the need for xdotool
[00:09] <skypce> i was tested cairo dock
[00:09] <skypce> and works fine
[00:09] <skypce> but only first time
[00:09] <skypce> when i reboot machine
[00:10] <skypce> the functionality dissapear
[00:10] <skypce> when i install the package and all configurations files
[00:10] <skypce> work
[00:10] <skypce> 1 time
[00:10] <skypce> and again leave of work
[00:10] <skypce> .S
[00:12] <nicomachus> hi guys, I somehow added "cdrom://Lubuntu 15.04 _Vivid Vervet_ - Release i386 (20150422) vivid InRelease" as a repository... kinda curious how it happened.
[00:12] <nicomachus> full output of apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11531334/
[00:12] <nicomachus> notice the first line and then the error message at the end.
[00:13] <xangua> just disable it
[00:14] <th34lch3m1st> hi all
[00:14] <BadDream> hmmm wat is this ubuntu update grand unified bootloader...this is scaring me
[00:14] <nicomachus> already done, xangua. just completely baffled how it happened.
[00:15] <wastrel> BadDream: grub it's how your computer boots
[00:16] <nicomachus> I think I burned a lubuntu live cd last night, and I created a live usb, but never booted from them on this machine.
[00:16] <thebot> lubuntu is quite good
[00:16] <BadDream> oh god the last time something happened with grub my ubuntu wouldnt boot anymore
[00:16] <rabbit777> Hi everyone --this my first time in a IRC chat so please bear with me
[00:16]  * BadDream curses
[00:16] <thebot> hello and welcome
[00:16] <nicomachus> BadDream: welcome to my world. currently residing.
[00:17] <thebot> are there terminal based Irc clients?
[00:17] <nicomachus> that's why I was burning live discs last night. but now I'm just using boot-repair on a disc. couldn't get any live versions to boot
[00:17] <nicomachus> thebot: irssi
[00:17] <BadDream> lol thebot
[00:17] <BadDream> open a terminal and type irssi
[00:17] <thebot> nice, I'll check it out when I get back from summer
[00:18] <Deja_Vu> hey ubuntu people, I need some help. I have my hard drive partitioned (sda1 ext4) + (sda6 ext4) where i believe /home is mounted + (sda5 linux-swap). I need totally wipe my current system and reinstall 14.04. If I select installation to sda1 for my new boot loader - that should keep my data safe. But how do I check where my home is? Do I make any sense?
[00:18] <th34lch3m1st> It will be usable ubuntu 14.04 on a 2gb swap (2gb ram) and 8gb / ...? (I plan to use default programs and remove some stuff like libre office or other things I don't use...and cloud storage for docs)
[00:18] <nicomachus> Deja_Vu: can you just backup your Home folder to Google Drive or Dropbox and then reinstall?
[00:19] <Deja_Vu> nicomachus: I can not
[00:19] <wastrel> how many GB does google drive or dropbox let you do
[00:20] <wastrel> Deja_Vu: if you do df -h do you see where home is mounted?
[00:20] <rabbit777> The reason I am here is to get information about getting my Ubuntu 14.04 go on line wireless ly
[00:20] <shenko> Maybe df (or whatever disk usage command was df du?) Each partition and process of illimination determine which is home
[00:21] <nicomachus> EriC^^ around?
[00:21] <Deja_Vu> wastrel: let me try
[00:21] <shenko> Rabbit more info?
[00:22] <thebot> how long have you guys been on ubuntu for?
[00:22] <Froodle> I've been having a problem with 14.04 LTS where locking the screen completely logs me out on top of locking the screen.  Is this a known issue?  I'm getting segfaults:
[00:22] <Deja_Vu> nicomachus: I have a few VMs which i cant backup anywhere... big files, 95 Gibs total
[00:22] <Froodle> Jun  2 13:24:09 <compname> kernel: [53175.581594] compiz[2174]: segfault at 7f8100000020 ip 00007f8195fbfcc6 sp 00007ffe5f4b9518 error 4 in libunityshell.so (deleted)[7f8195d8f000+57f000]
[00:22] <Jordan_U> th34lch3m1st: What graphics card you have, specifically if good 3D accelerated drivers are available for it, will make a big difference with "usability". If you have a GPU with good drivers, those specs should be fine, though it still depends heavily on what you want to do. Editing a 1080p video might be slower than you'd like for instance, but editing text could be done quite happily with 512 MiB of ram.
[00:23] <shenko> @froodle isn't hibernate a 1000 year old problem in linux?
[00:24] <Froodle> shenko, I don't think it's hibernate (which dumps RAM to disk).  Just locking the screen.
[00:24] <rabbit777> ok I have been studying ubutu official documentation but I find it to be not clear enouph
[00:24] <th34lch3m1st> Jordan_U: I'm planning to just surf/mail/eclipse (2gb ram, celeron 2840)
[00:25] <Jordan_U> th34lch3m1st: Should be fine.
[00:27] <rabbit777> I know my systemj will recognise my wireless adapter by issueing the susb command in the terminal
[00:27] <shenko> Froodle maybe power settings and try never go sleep or something as a temp fix
[00:28] <Deja_Vu> wastrel: `df -h` confirmed that my /home mounted @ /dev/sda6, so i should be good to go?
[00:28] <thebot> so I'm thinking about doing everything in the terminal
[00:28] <shenko> Rabit maybe on laptop there is physical switch to shut off wireless, just make sure that is on before anything
[00:28] <thebot> I've thought about it for a while, can anyone suggest a good music player that's terminal based
[00:29] <thebot> have something like 2600 songs, so should be able to handle it
[00:29] <wastrel> Deja_Vu: yeah just install on sda1 and leave sda6 alone during install
[00:29] <Deja_Vu> wastrel: roger that, thank you so much
[00:30] <rabbit777> not on a laptop   but a desktop pc
[00:30] <th34lch3m1st> Jordan_U: good to know, thanks
[00:30] <pavlos> rabbit777, there is a wireless_script, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57264241/wireless_script see if you can save and run it, then pastebin the result here
[00:30] <Jordan_U> Deja_Vu: Grub's boot sector should always be installed to the MBR. Where grub's boot sector gets installed has nothing to do with the files on any of your filesystems.
[00:31] <shenko> MBR==master boot record, i know this because I have never touched a woman lolz
[00:32] <th34lch3m1st> shenko: .D
[00:32] <th34lch3m1st> :D
[00:32] <Deja_Vu> Jordan_U: that was the goal :\
[00:33] <Jordan_U> Deja_Vu: I don't understand. What was the goal?
[00:33] <psusi> Deja_Vu, you want the boot loader installed to just sda, which is the default
[00:34] <psusi> Deja_Vu, if you have a separate /home partition, you need to choose the something else option when installing, and configure which partition should be mounted in /, swap, and /home
[00:34] <Symbiosis> Hello, I have a small problem in regards to the terminal. Whenever I type in a command I've used before, it not only displays the command's output but also the output of commands I had typed in before it, even though I've typed 'clear'. Is this normal?
[00:34] <rabbit777> I Have the nsdll wrapper and the driver but cannot get the right termail command to get the wraper to get the driver then if some could give me the code install the driver and then load it.
[00:34] <psusi> Deja_Vu, and don't check the format option on /home if you want the files there to be preserved
[00:34] <Deja_Vu> Jordan_U: to have boot separated from everything else
[00:35] <Deja_Vu> psusi: thank you
[00:35] <Jordan_U> Deja_Vu: What do you mean by "have boot separated from everything else"? What is your end goal?
[00:35] <psusi> Jordan_U, to reinstall ubuntu but keep his files
[00:35] <Deja_Vu> Jordan_U: wipe existing ubuntu, install 14.04, preserve home
[00:36] <Jordan_U> rabbit777: Avoid ndiswrapper at all costs.
[00:36] <Ed4point0> all Americans are Cowboys anyways :p
[00:36] <rabbit777> ok
[00:38] <Jordan_U> Deja_Vu: OK. That has nothing to do with where grub's boot sector gets installed, which is what the "where to install bootloader" question is referring to. psusi is right both what to use for that setting, and how to perserve /home/ in general. I will add though to be very careful that the "format" option on your /home/ partition is *not* checked.
[00:38] <Deja_Vu> Jordan_U: roger that
[00:39] <rabbit777> what do I do?
[00:41] <wastrel> rabbit777: what wireless card do you have
[00:42] <aterdeus> hi guys
[00:42] <aterdeus> i'm using ubuntu mate 15 04
[00:42] <aterdeus> http://i59.tinypic.com/oqg289.png
[00:42] <rabbit777> I have a netgear wnda3100
[00:42] <aterdeus> what's this effect with the 3d desktop and how to disable it
[00:43] <wastrel> oh a usb wifi thingus
[00:43] <rabbit777> yes
[00:45] <Deja_Vu> Jordan_U: in `device for boot loader installation` - that's what confused me, it is /sda by default, should I choose /sda1 for my grub instead? :(
[00:46] <wastrel> seems like you need to copy drivers from windows and use ndiswrapper?
[00:46] <wastrel> im not finding linux drivers for this
[00:46] <Jordan_U> Deja_Vu: No.
[00:47] <shenko> Aterdeus compiz settings something something cube
[00:47] <rabbit777> I have those but don't know what commands I need so the wrapper will get the driver.
[00:47] <psusi> Deja_Vu, no... the only time you want to install grub to a partition is if there is some other boot loader installed in the mbr that you have configured to chain load a partition, which is not a normal or recommended configuration
[00:48] <aterdeus> and?
[00:49] <mekhami> i asked in winehq but there's rarely anyone talking there... i'm having a problem with usfiv for steam, it's crashing whenever the game starts up. is there a place i can find a specific error? is there a wine log somewhere?
[00:49] <Deja_Vu> Jordan_U: thank you
[00:49] <Deja_Vu> psusi: thank you
[00:49] <Jordan_U> Deja_Vu: You're welcome.
[00:50] <wafflejock> mekhami, not sure about wine but most logs are in /var/log
[00:50] <JoeEveryperson> stem has a linux edition out you should not be using wine unless the game in fact is not supported
[00:50] <mekhami> wafflej0ck, nothing related for wine there :(
[00:50] <mekhami> JoeEveryperson, the game is not supported.
[00:50] <JoeEveryperson> kk
[00:51] <Deja_Vu> psusi: so sda1(where im trying to install 14.04) should have `/` as mount point?
[00:51] <Deja_Vu> dayum im stooopid :\
[00:52] <psusi> Deja_Vu, if that is your root partition, yes
[00:53] <histo> mekhami: anything int he appdb?
[00:54] <histo> !appdb | mekhami
[00:55] <mekhami> histo, https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=31010 nothign really :/
[00:56] <mekhami> i'm assuming the latest patch broke the game somehow
[00:58] <drocsid> I'm trying to increase limits in ubuntu
[00:58] <drocsid> ulimit shows max locked memory       (kbytes, -l) 64
[00:59] <mekhami> this is so f!#%ing miserable, i just bought a $150 stick and i can't play the damn game
[00:59] <drocsid> but I set elasticsearch   - memlock unlimited
[00:59] <drocsid> in /etc/security/limits.d/elasticsearch.conf
[00:59] <ImJune> Update has my monitor settings messed up now
[00:59] <ImJune> not kewl
[01:01] <drocsid> and I O troed sysctl -p
[01:01] <Deja_Vu> Jordan_U: psusi: It worked, I'm extremely grateful for your help and patience with me.
[01:01] <drocsid> I also tried sudo sysctl --system
[01:01] <drocsid> and logging out and back in
[01:01] <drocsid> how do I get the new limits too apply, or what am I doing wrong?
[01:01] <SonikkuAmerica> ImJune: Hmmm... what flavor is this?
[01:02] <ImJune> It is 15.04
[01:02] <ImJune> gtx 960 gpu
[01:02] <ImJune> running the drivers
[01:02] <ImJune> nvidia binary
[01:02] <drocsid> anybody, or should I ask in #linux instead?
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> !flavors | ImJune , what I meant was
[01:02] <ImJune> Oh Ubuntu
[01:03] <ImJune> regular
[01:03] <ImJune> unity
[01:03] <SonikkuAmerica> ImJune: Oh, OK. Can you !pastebin your /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf ?
[01:03] <ImJune> sure
[01:03] <ImJune> let me get a terminal open\
[01:04] <SonikkuAmerica> drocsid: Is this 15.04?
[01:04] <EADG> !Lubuntu
[01:04] <SonikkuAmerica> EADG: And soon that will be LXQt
[01:05] <nicomachus> ok, I'm completely stuck at boot. Any time I select an OS to boot from GRUB, it reboots the machine.
[01:05] <nicomachus> boot-repair did NOT work.
[01:06] <SonikkuAmerica> nicomachus: Try in #grub
[01:06] <SonikkuAmerica> if you haven't already.
[01:06] <Symbiosis> Advice needed: I'm connecting to a local ssh server, I put in the password and the connection is established. But when I try to connect to google using firefox, the terminal says the connection is refused. Can someone elaborate?
[01:06] <nicomachus> whoa. didn't know that existed.
[01:06] <ImJune> It seems that xorg.conf.d is a dir
[01:06] <ImJune> not a file
[01:06] <ImJune> do you want to see what files are within it?
[01:07] <nicomachus> ImJune: xorg.conf is a file
[01:07] <SonikkuAmerica> ImJune: First, check in /etc/X11/ for an xorg.conf
[01:07] <nicomachus> xorg.conf.d doesn't exist
[01:07] <ImJune> it does
[01:07] <SonikkuAmerica> nicomachus: No, it does... Xorg screwed around with the config files
[01:07] <ImJune> Im inside the it not
[01:07] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: are you trying to tunnel your web connection or something?
[01:07] <ImJune> sorry misstype
[01:07] <Symbiosis> knocktwice: yes
[01:08] <knocktwice> Ah... one moment.
[01:08] <ImJune> inside X11 there is no xorg.conf file
[01:08] <SonikkuAmerica> ImJune: Inside /etc/X11/ , you mean.
[01:08] <ImJune> no
[01:08] <ImJune> usr/share.X11
[01:09] <ImJune> sorry this keyboard is junk
[01:09] <ImJune> "/usr/share/X11"
[01:10] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: ssh <host> -f -N -L<port>:<IP_ADDRESS>:<port>
[01:10] <SonikkuAmerica> ImJune: [ cd /etc/X11/ && ls | grep xorg.conf ]
[01:10] <ImJune> ok
[01:10] <knocktwice> Symbiosis or something close
[01:10] <SonikkuAmerica> ImJune: Usually there isn't anything there, but...
[01:11] <ImJune> nothing there
[01:11] <ubuntu198> Hi guys. I am running Elementary OS, based on Ubuntu 14.04. I still need to run Windows in a VM occasionally, but it's painfully slow without hardware acceleration. Is there any way to enable this on Intel 4600 graphics? Thank you.
[01:11] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: I use it to tunnel to my remote machine, then connect to squid on the remote machine for a proxy.
[01:11] <ImJune> grep finds nothing
[01:12] <SonikkuAmerica> ImJune: OK, then I think I need a !pastebin of /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf
[01:12] <ImJune> ok
[01:12] <Symbiosis> knocktwice: okay. thanks.
[01:12] <histo> ubuntu198: do you have a cpu that supports hardware virtualization?
[01:12] <kostkon> !elementary | ubuntu198
[01:12] <ubuntu198> histo: I'm not sure.. I have a Intel i7-4790k
[01:13] <Symbiosis> knocktwice: how do you end a specific connection?
[01:14] <Symbiosis> knocktwice: when using -f?
[01:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh hello superflyy :)
[01:14] <shenko> Control c, usualy kills
[01:14] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: Oh, hm... I guess I'd find the PID of ssh and kill it.  I guess I've never needed to :)
[01:15] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: shenko's got it right.  You'll still have the terminal, so you can C-c
[01:15] <SonikkuAmerica> superflyy: ((Sorry to inform you that I know the real superfly. He's an Ubuntu member XD))
[01:15] <histo> ubuntu198: grep -e vmx -e svm -o /proc/cpuinfo
[01:15] <Symbiosis> okay
[01:15] <superflyy> SonikkuAmerica i'm his understudy ;)
[01:15] <SonikkuAmerica> lol
[01:16] <knocktwice> stunt double?
[01:16] <ImJune> http://pastebin.com/9JL8GneH there you go
[01:16] <shenko> Lol
[01:16] <superflyy> SonikkuAmerica his knockout-ned
[01:16] <histo> ubuntu198: did that command output anything?
[01:16] <ubuntu198> histo: It outputs "vmx" 8 times. Thank you
[01:16] <superflyy> SonikkuAmerica pimping out one fan-tech at a time :D
[01:16] <shenko> His igor
[01:16] <SonikkuAmerica> ImJune: Nope, not what I'm looking for.
[01:16] <ImJune> I have dual monitors
[01:16] <ImJune> then what are you looking for
[01:17] <superflyy> shenko igor has a sense of humour :D
[01:17] <ImJune> because thats the file you requested
[01:17] <histo> ubuntu198: okay so you need to check the box to enable hardware acceleration in the settings for your vm. That will speed things up a bit
[01:17] <SonikkuAmerica> ImJune: Is your GTX controlled by Optimus, or a standalone?
[01:17] <ImJune> Its running the proprietary drivers it says
[01:17] <ImJune> via the gui update app
[01:18] <ImJune> This device is using the recommended driver"
[01:18] <histo> ubuntu198: Stop the vm under settings > System > Acceleration tab enable those settings under hardware virtualizaiton
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> ImJune: I asked if you are using NVIDIA Optimus, which switches between an Intel and an NVIDIA GPU.
[01:18] <histo> ubuntu198: for video acceleration you will need guest additions installed and enable that under graphics
[01:19] <ImJune> no surely not
[01:20] <ImJune> I have an AMD chip
[01:20] <SonikkuAmerica> ImJune: And sorry about the config file being wrong...
[01:20] <ImJune> its updating now
[01:20] <SonikkuAmerica> ImJune: Nope, you wouldn't be then.
[01:20] <ImJune> via software updater
[01:20] <ImJune> crossing fffingers
[01:20] <Symbiosis> knocktwice: I did what you said, but I'm still getting a connection refused message. The ssh server says it has the connection.
[01:21] <ImJune> before this happend it recognized my monitor
[01:22] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: can you use wget or curl to test on local and remote?
[01:22] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: The firewall on either side could be interfering
[01:23] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: do you have access to the logfiles on the remote?
[01:23] <Symbiosis> knocktwice: yes
[01:24] <histo> Symbiosis: you could just kill the job or bring it to the forground
[01:25] <Symbiosis> histo: i did, but even still i get connection refused.
[01:26] <SonikkuAmerica> ImJune: Any luck?
[01:26] <ImJune> Yes It shows that my monitor can not be seen
[01:26] <ImJune> I mean it shows up as an unknown disply
[01:26] <ImJune> and the resolution is wrong
[01:27] <ImJune> I didnt change any settings for this to happen either
[01:28] <histo> Symbiosis: ssh -v host
[01:28] <histo> Symbiosis: see what's going on
[01:28] <ImJune> I want another monitor so they are the same ugh
[01:28] <histo> Symbiosis: you can have multiple ssh connetions so it's not the other one
[01:29] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: On my remote, all firewall-denied-connections are logged in kern.log.  You might check there.
[01:29] <ImJune> is there another conf file I can look in?
[01:30] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: http, not https, right? No TLS complications?
[01:31] <Symbiosis> knocktwice: hmm, i didn't think to check for that. one moment
[01:31] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: I can almost assure you the problem is on the remote machine.  Might be the network config on the remote.
[01:31] <mekhami> i'm getting so damn tired of ubuntu and wine.
[01:31] <knocktwice> mekhami: try ubuntu and beer
[01:31] <yourname> haha
[01:31] <a7i3n> ha knock!
[01:31] <smokeless> mekhami: ubuntu, wine, and cheddar.
[01:32] <a7i3n> I spread ubuntu on toast and have with a fine chiante
[01:33] <se> /nick moep|se
[01:35] <smokeless> a7ien: amazing.
[01:36] <knocktwice> yay! finally found a WM I like: xfce
[01:36] <shenko> I order ubuntu from chinese resto down the street. They always forget my dumplings :-(
[01:37] <Decoy_Platypus> knocktwice: what else have you tried?
[01:37] <reisio> shenko: that's awful
[01:37] <reisio> knocktwice: that's a good one
[01:37] <reisio> with a proven history of not betraying its users
[01:37] <knocktwice> MATE, cinnamon, others-- I've got like 6 in my session-list
[01:38] <histo> knocktwice: xfce is a desktop environment
[01:38] <shenko> Im gnome3 wm because unity was full of lag on my hp laptop
[01:38] <wastrel> i have hp laptop it is good with unity
[01:38] <Decoy_Platypus> knocktwice: I tried a bunch too; finally settled on i3
[01:38] <histo> knocktwice: I switch between xfce or just running i3
[01:38] <reisio> kinda depends on your graphics hardware, how well Unity (compiz) will perform
[01:38] <knocktwice> histo: thx... I'm mostly a term user, so I'm behind on X knowledge
[01:38] <reisio> also GNOME 3, though
[01:39] <histo> knocktwice: xfce is nice that you can customize it to your liking
[01:39] <reisio> you can use either without acceleration, though, with more effort
[01:39] <shenko> Whatsup with wayland?
[01:39] <knocktwice> MATE was ok.  Had a few nasty bugs though
[01:39] <reisio> shenko: what do you mean?
[01:39] <histo> knocktwice: http://imgur.com/CF66Qt7
[01:39] <shenko> I dunno, it gonna replace x? I heard
[01:39] <reisio> shenko: yes, eventually
[01:39] <reisio> you'll know when
[01:40] <shenko> X is like 100 years old now
[01:40] <knocktwice> histo: what's the clock widget?
[01:40] <Geo> Hi - I'd looking to upgrade my / partition to a larger HD, which I currently have mirrored using mdadm. Can I just replace one of the two and synch/grow it, or do I need to do something with grub (as its the bootable partition)?
[01:40] <shenko> Rwisio why do you sound so ominous? "You'll know when muahahaha(evil laugh" wtf
[01:40] <drakedouay2> I have a list of opvn (open vpn) files. I wish to import the list via the command line as it would take a long time to add them manually via the gui. How can I do this?
[01:42] <reisio> shenko: because your head reads things ominously?
[01:42] <reisio> eventually the sun will set
[01:42] <reisio> eventually the sun will rise
[01:42] <knocktwice> histo: so my WM is xfwm4?
[01:43] <smokeless> lxde
[01:45] <Decoy_Platypus> histo: nice to find out I'm not the only i3 user :D
[01:45] <EriC^> knocktwice: yeah
[01:47] <reisio> knocktwice: yarp
[01:47] <reisio> knocktwice: Xfce is the desktop environment
[01:47] <reisio> but we knew what you meant
[01:49] <wastrel> which desktop environment is most like the movie "alien"
[01:49] <EriC^> enlightenment
[01:49] <knocktwice> so, it kills you at a moment's notice and drips acid? I'll pass.
[01:49] <reisio> wastrel: most like the movie?
[01:50] <reisio> old film, that
[01:50] <reisio> maybe something commandline
[01:50] <Decoy_Platypus> wastrel: got a screenshot of what you mean?
[01:51] <oceanprime> on the command line right now
[01:51] <oceanprime> though I'd like to install window maker
[01:51] <smokeless> oceanprime: life on the CLI
[01:51] <oceanprime> smokeless: is..?
[01:52] <smokeless> oceanprime: the best way to get work done.
[01:52] <EriC^> oceanprime: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop or xfce4
[01:53] <oceanprime> EriC^: why would I do that?
[01:53] <EriC^> if you want to install a de
[01:54] <EriC^> you said you'd like to
[01:54] <oceanprime> EriC^: alrigth have bloated gnome. window maker is a de. old school. I liked it a lot back in the day.
[01:54] <Hilikus> in my load average i get load average: 58.01, 57.99, 57.32. however when I run top, there's only 2 processes I see each with 1% cpu. how can i see what is causing the load to be so high?
[01:55] <EriC^> oceanprime: oh ok
[01:55] <Decoy_Platypus> Hilikus: that is a huge load!
[01:55] <wastrel> Hilikus: do you have a lot of processes running you can have a high load average if you have a lot of open processes
[01:56] <Hilikus> wastrel: i don't know, how many is too many?
[01:56] <wastrel> how many do you have yo
[01:57] <wastrel> in top it should say tasks, 2nd line
[01:57] <Hilikus> 263
[01:58] <wastrel> how many running
[01:58] <Hilikus> what's wa in the third row
[01:58] <Hilikus> 1 running
[01:58] <wastrel> weirdy
[01:58] <Pazooza> V15.04 only has 9 months of support? Why bother?
[01:59] <Hilikus> ?? what is that?
[01:59] <Pazooza> Ubuntu 15.04
[01:59] <Hilikus> %Cpu(s):  0.7 us,  0.7 sy,  0.0 ni,  0.0 id, 98.7 wa,  0.0 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
[01:59] <wastrel> it's not a LTS
[01:59] <Apteryx> Hi! I've got some weird issue... My grub config is as far as I can tell standard, but some old kernel gets loaded instead of the newest
[02:00] <knocktwice>  #grub?
[02:00] <psusi> Pazooza, I'd imagine because you like having the new hotness and it isn't a problem upgrading every 6 to 9 months
[02:00] <reisio> Apteryx: pastebin your config and the contents of /boot
[02:00] <EriC^> and uname -r
[02:00] <reisio> well, and /etc/fstab
[02:00] <reisio> and lsblk -f
[02:00] <reisio> and your root pw
[02:01] <EriC^> and your SSN
[02:01] <EriC^> atm PIN
[02:01] <EriC^> also your shoe size, thx
[02:03] <reisio> well, your foot size, in cm
[02:03] <nicomachus> knocktwice: #grub is pretty dead
[02:03] <reisio> and cL
[02:04] <nicomachus> EriC^: do you remember the problem I was having with booting last night?
[02:04] <EriC^> yeah
[02:04] <EriC^> live usb wouldn't boot
[02:04] <nicomachus> turns out boot-repair has an .iso....
[02:04] <nicomachus> it boots just fine.
[02:05] <nicomachus> boot-repair didn't work, but I got SOMETHING to boot.
[02:05] <EriC^> ok, what's that?
[02:06] <nicomachus> built into ubuntu now, started out as 3rd party: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:06] <EriC^> oh, i mean what did you boot
[02:06] <azizLIGHT> how do i clear file results in the dash?
[02:07] <EriC^> after boot-repair fixed stuff
[02:08] <nicomachus> I tried to boot into Ubuntu but it still just reboots the machine when I select anything in grub. but the boot-repair .iso live disk will boot, and it's basically lubuntu, so I at least have a terminal in the machine... progress.
[02:08] <EriC^> nicomachus: ok, boot into it and type sudo parted -l
[02:09] <nicomachus> it's doing another repair atm, one sec.
[02:09] <smokeless> nicomachus: is this a fresh install?
[02:10] <knocktwice> I can't believe I've succumbed to vim.    Now I want to learn vim scripting.  I feel like I've renounced Christianity or come out of the closet.
[02:15] <reisio> knocktwice: you ever try using emacs with alt and ctrl swapped?
[02:15] <nicomachus> EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11533188/
[02:15] <reisio> mmm, my understanding is that Emacs has better scripting
[02:16] <reisio> insofar as it uses a real language
[02:16] <mekhami> reisio, smokeless what size usb do i need to put a windows loader on it
[02:16] <reisio> but that Vim is a better editor, insofar as it isn't an OS that interprets Lisp
[02:16] <mekhami> any idea
[02:16] <knocktwice> reisio: I imagine so.  But eLisp is a real p.i.t.a.
[02:16] <EriC^> nicomachus: try sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[02:16] <reisio> mekhami: install image, you mean?
[02:16] <reisio> knocktwice: yeah, I wouldn't choose Vim's over it, though
[02:16] <nicomachus> I was able to do that earlier.
[02:16] <reisio> I forget if neovim has a real scripting interface
[02:17] <Razzdoll> Will this work with ubuntu 15.04? http://www.netis-systems.com/en/Downloads/Details/?id=861
[02:17] <EriC^> nicomachus: that's great, i was thinking maybe the filesystem got erased but it seemed odd an update would do that
[02:17] <nicomachus> maybe that was sda1 earlier.
[02:17] <EriC^> erm
[02:17] <EriC^> try sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[02:17] <mekhami> reisio, yeah. whatever i need on a usb to boot and install windows from it.
[02:17] <nicomachus> but sda5 says "unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS'"
[02:17] <nicomachus> it's encrypted, fyi
[02:17] <EriC^> ohh
[02:17] <reisio> mekhami: they tend to be DVD-sized, between 3 and 4 gigs
[02:18] <mekhami> so the 8gb i have is fine
[02:18] <reisio> mekhami: probably, if you can image it correctly
[02:18] <reisio> mekhami: what's it for?
[02:18] <mekhami> reisio ......for installing windows.
[02:18] <mekhami> dual booting?
[02:19] <histo> nicomachus: is it an encrypted home?
[02:19] <reisio> mekhami: what version/edition
[02:19] <mekhami> reisio, i don't really care either way
[02:19] <nicomachus> histo: full disk
[02:19] <mekhami> just need something i can run steam on
[02:20] <reisio> steam runs on GNU/Linux
[02:20] <histo> nicomachus: sudo cryptsetup luksopen /dev/sda5 encrypted_volume
[02:20] <histo> nicomachus: then you can mount /dev/mapper/encrypted_volume where you need to
[02:21] <mekhami> reisio, .........
[02:21] <mekhami> reisio, i'm not an idiot man jesus
[02:21] <mekhami> reisio, stop trying to solve problems i don't have
[02:21] <nicomachus> 'cryptsetup: Unknown action'
[02:21] <reisio> mekhami: oooooh okay, sure thing
[02:21] <Guest11306> how come (sometimes) when i go to install a 32-bit package apt-get wants to remove **64-bit** packages?
[02:22] <histo> nicomachus: ^luksopen^luksOpen^
[02:22] <raihanteknologi> halo
[02:22] <reisio> doom
[02:22] <mekhami> reisio, sorry, extremely %!#%ing frustrating night and IRC has been .... less than fruitful tonight.
[02:22] <nicomachus> so: sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 encrypted_volume?
[02:22] <mekhami> reisio, i'm having problems i shouldn't be having.
[02:22] <reisio> mekhami: yeah, like what?
[02:23] <Guest11306> http://askubuntu.com/questions/630775/why-does-the-installation-of-a-32-bit-package-remove-64-bit-packages
[02:23] <mekhami> reisio, i need the non-linux version of steam to run Ultra SFIV. which ran juuuust fine a month ago.
[02:23] <mekhami> now it's crashing on startup and there's absolutely no way to see the logs or why it's crashing.
[02:24] <reisio> mekhami: what makes you think changing your OS will help
[02:24] <histo> nicomachus: yes or you could have pasted what I typed and it would have corrected it for you.
[02:24] <mekhami> reisio, steam runs natively on windows?
[02:24] <mekhami> reisio, the steam that runs USFIV doe snot run natively on linux
[02:24] <nicomachus> handy. didn't know that. Also can't paste
[02:25] <histo> nicomachus: it's the same as !!:s/luksopen/luksOpen/
[02:25] <reisio> mekhami: why's that
[02:25] <mekhami> reisio it just doesn't. steam for linux runs a few games, notably the valve games.
[02:25] <nicomachus> histo: tried to mount and got "unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'"
[02:25] <Apteryx> Hello! Still stuggling with disabling nouveau! Every time I boot, I have to do the following commands in order to start nvidia proprietary driver: http://pastebin.com/yMHVRrVr
[02:25] <mekhami> steam for linux does NOT run the vast majority of games available on steam
[02:26] <mekhami> so, you have to run steam through wine which is apparently the biggest cosmic joke in the world.
[02:26] <nicomachus> mekhami: it's growing.
[02:26] <mekhami> nicomachus, it will never grow to street fighter unfortunately
[02:26] <mekhami> nicomachus, unless SFV is on unreal engine (might be)
[02:26] <mekhami> but i don't trust capcom to make a stable game on a single platform since, historically, they can't.
[02:26] <mekhami> either way
[02:26] <reisio> yeah it only has a gold rating for Wine
[02:27] <mekhami> this game worked through wine
[02:27] <reisio> means it's a poorly made app
[02:27] <mekhami> it doesn't run
[02:27] <mekhami> so
[02:27] <nicomachus> idk man, I hear the guys in #ubuntu-offtopic are pretty passionate about it
[02:27] <mekhami> gold rating means shit if it doesn't run
[02:27] <mekhami> nicomachus, about what
[02:27] <knocktwice> Apteryx: have you tried blacklisting?
[02:28] <histo> nicomachus: vgs
[02:29] <nicomachus> what?
[02:30] <Apteryx> How can I disable KMS?
[02:30] <nicomachus> oh nvm
[02:31] <reisio> Apteryx: don't cross post
[02:32] <nicomachus> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11533409/
[02:32] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: One way to disable KMS is to boot with the boot parameter "nomoeset" for ATI/Nvidia chipsets. Intel has other means .
[02:33] <neuron> nicomachus: hi
[02:33] <neuron> nicomachus: I got this tutorial http://techknight.eu/2014/12/09/send-mail-witg-google-smtp-ubuntu-14-04/
[02:33] <neuron> I followed it to the letter
[02:33] <neuron> I am wondering I am not getting the last part where I try to test whether I can send an email or not
[02:34] <neuron> cho testing|mail -s 'Test Mail'<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:34] <neuron> echo testing|mail -s 'Test Mail'<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:34] <neuron> returns an error on the terminal
[02:34] <neuron> nicomachus: can you help me
[02:34] <nicomachus> idk why you're asking me, man.
[02:35] <neuron> nicomachus: I just assume you might help me
[02:35] <neuron> if not then its ok
[02:35] <reisio> nicomachus: you're good lookin', that's why
[02:35] <neuron> no problem man
[02:35] <nicomachus> lol
[02:35] <nicomachus> I would if I could, neuron.
[02:35] <neuron> nicomachus: thanks man
[02:35] <nicomachus> but I'm here because I can't even boot my pc, so you might try someone else.
[02:36] <neuron> reisio: any ideas
[02:36] <neuron> hello fellas
[02:36] <nicomachus> be patient, man
[02:36] <reisio> neuron: about what?
[02:36] <neuron> just want to ask if anyone can help
[02:36] <nicomachus> if someone knows, they'll say something
[02:36] <neuron> reisio: I got this tutorial http://techknight.eu/2014/12/09/send-mail-witg-google-smtp-ubuntu-14-04/
[02:36] <neuron> I followed it to the letter
[02:37] <neuron> I am wondering I am not getting the last part where I try to test whether I can send an email or not
[02:37] <smokeless> neuron: open a terminal. type mail, then fill out to, and subject, end the line with a .
[02:37] <neuron> echo testing|mail -s 'Test Mail'<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:37] <smokeless> neuron: rather a . on it's own line.
[02:37] <EriC^> nicomachus: did you mount the partition yet
[02:38] <smokeless> ne
[02:38] <neuron> it says no mail
[02:38] <neuron> it says no mail for username
[02:38] <Apteryx> reisio: OK
[02:38] <neuron> smokeless: it says no mail for username
[02:38] <smokeless> neuron: mail $whoever@whereever
[02:39] <histo> nicomachus: lvs
[02:39] <neuron> smokeless: yeah did that
[02:39] <neuron> I type the subject
[02:39] <histo> nicomachus: what'd happened to start all this?  I missed the begining of your question?
[02:39] <neuron> then press enter
[02:39] <neuron> then type a. on the next line
[02:39] <neuron> and it cursor just blinks
[02:39] <EriC^> histo: he upgraded to 15.04 from 14.10
[02:40] <histo> ?
[02:40] <nicomachus> lol
[02:40] <EriC^> nicomachus:
[02:40] <neuron> smokeless: what can I do next
[02:40] <nicomachus> selecting a boot option in grub causes the machine to restart.
[02:40] <smokeless> neuron: So you get through the subject, type a . to end it, and it just hangs?
[02:40] <nicomachus> tried boot-repair, no dice.
[02:40] <nicomachus> There were a lot of twists and turns and adventures on the way, but that's the gist of it.
[02:40] <Apteryx> Bashing-om: I have this parameter in my /etc/default/grub file, as: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet nomodeset rdblacklist=nouveau"
[02:40] <histo> nicomachus: okay well you have to unencrypt your disk then mount the logical volumes you created
[02:40] <neuron> yup I am just seeing a blinking cursor
[02:41] <smokeless> neuron and it isn't exiting out to bash?
[02:41] <histo> nicomachus: so we've luksOpen for the first part then we can mount the volume
[02:41] <neuron> yup
[02:41] <Geo> does anyone know the command to get a RAID5 mdadm partition marked as down to 'reactivate' and join the array again?
[02:41] <neuron> smokeless: yup
[02:41] <smokeless> neuron add another enter in there and try putting another .
[02:41] <neuron> it does not return to the prompt
[02:41] <nicomachus> histo: just tried to mount /dev/mapper/encypted_volume and it says "can't find /dev/mapper/encrypted_volume in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab'
[02:41] <neuron> smokeless: ok it says this
[02:42] <neuron> smokeless: send-mail: Authorization failed (534 5.7.14 https://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=78754 mi1sm19221609pab.0 - gsmtp)
[02:42] <Apteryx> reisio: Ubuntu 14.04 to be more specific
[02:42] <ignitus> Is it possible to install armel and x86 packages side by side on the same system?  I'm trying to cross compile a opengl/es application for a sbc we have in the shop, but I can't figure out how to tell apt-get to properly resolve the gles libs
[02:42] <histo> nicomachus: yeah I know,  does lvs     show a volumen name?
[02:42] <EriC^> nicomachus: you need to type sudo mount /dev/mapper/encrypted_volume /mnt
[02:42] <nicomachus> root and swap
[02:42] <EriC^> i think you missed the /mnt part
[02:42] <nicomachus> EriC^ so I did...
[02:43] <smokeless> neuron somewhere in your setup you have a mistake with your user name and password.
[02:43] <nicomachus> ok: 'unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member''
[02:43] <Apteryx> I have two problems actually: 1) KMS does not seem to go away no matter what I try and 2) The newest kernel is not the one used by grub even after a update-grub command (although I have GRUB_DEFAULT=0 in the /etc/default/grub file)
[02:44] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: Blacklisting is a funtion of files residing in " /etc/modprobe.d/" ; Those boot parameters just do not look right to me .
[02:44] <histo> nicomachus: okay mount /dev/ubuntu-jg/root  /wheverver
[02:44] <neuron> smokeless: but I did exactly what I have to do
[02:44] <histo> nicomachus: ubuntu-vg  sorry for the typo
[02:44] <neuron> I correctly entered my own gmail account details
[02:44] <reisio> Apteryx: ask ubottu about nomodeset
[02:44] <neuron> my username and my password
[02:44] <nicomachus>  /wheverver...?
[02:44] <Apteryx> Bashing-om: the rdblacklist=nouveau I think is not ubuntu proper. But I've seen nomodeset in Debian docs as well as on the web for ubuntu.
[02:45] <EriC^> nicomachus: /mnt
[02:45] <histo> nicomachus: mount it to where you want to take a look at it.
[02:45] <Apteryx> reisio: You mean on launchpad questions? Or on askubuntu.com
[02:45] <EriC^> !nomodeset | Apteryx
[02:45] <nicomachus> ok, mounted that no problem.
[02:45] <smokeless> neuron: you checked all of the lines and they all match up, and you can login to your google account with that info?
[02:46] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: Depending on your grahics chip set " nomodeset" might be appropriate to disable KMS . But, Why would you want to ?
[02:46] <nicomachus> now /dev/mapper/encrypted_volume?
[02:46] <EriC^> nicomachus: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot
[02:46] <neuron> smokeless: using the account details if I go to gmail and log in I can access my email
[02:46] <nicomachus> ok, done
[02:46] <nicomachus> neuron: do you have 2-form verification on gmail?
[02:47] <EriC^> nicomachus: ok, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[02:47] <Apteryx> Bashing-om: Because nouveau is horribly slow so I must use nvidia proprietary driver.
[02:47] <neuron> nicomachus: I do not remember doing anything like that
[02:47] <neuron> but how can I check if I did
[02:47] <histo> nicomachus: not mapper ubuntu-vg you have an encrypted lvm on sda5
[02:48] <nicomachus> EriC^ double checking phrasing: "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done" is the command?
[02:48] <histo> nicomachus: mount /dev/ubuntu-vg/whatever_the_name_of_your_logical_volume  /where/you/want/to/mount
[02:48] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: IF Nvidia is properly installed, in the Nvidia install parocess the nviida driver will black list the nouveau driver automatically.
[02:48] <smokeless> neuron: give this a shot, if that doesn't work, I don't know what's wrong.
[02:48] <EriC^> nicomachus: yeah
[02:48] <smokeless> neuron: http://tecadmin.net/ways-to-send-email-from-linux-command-line/
[02:48] <nicomachus> cool thanks
[02:48] <Apteryx> ubottu: thanks. But I tried this already.
[02:48] <neuron> smokeless: cool thanks
[02:49] <smokeless> neuron: specifically the part about ssmtp
[02:49] <nicomachus> ok, done EriC^
[02:49] <Apteryx> Bashing-om: It did. But somehow kms is still on and loads nouveau very early, which blocks nvidia from loading after
[02:49] <EriC^> nicomachus: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[02:49] <reisio> !nomodeset
[02:49] <reisio> Apteryx: ^
[02:49] <nicomachus> ok, done EriC^
[02:50] <EriC^> nicomachus: type grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[02:50] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: Pardon me, but sounds like you are attempting to install a driver that your graphics card does not support ??
[02:50] <neuron> smokeless: i just did
[02:50] <neuron> but the cursor never returned to the bash
[02:50] <nicomachus> workin
[02:50] <nicomachus> working*
[02:50] <neuron> it just keeps on blinking
[02:51] <smokeless> neuron: did it work?
[02:51] <nicomachus> EriC^: "could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device."
[02:51] <neuron> smokeless: I am not sure yet
[02:51] <raihanteknologi> halo
[02:51] <smokeless> neuron: no nasty error from google is good though.
[02:51] <Apteryx> Bashing-om: no, I'm sure it is supported. My card is based on the G73 nvidia gpu (7600 GS or something), and I have installed the default nvidia 304.125 that is available on Ubuntu.
[02:52] <smokeless> neuron: like I said, beyond that I'm not sure.
[02:52] <neuron> smokeless: the thing is I never install ssmtp
[02:52] <smokeless> neuron: me either.
[02:52] <Apteryx> And it does work! If I unload kms, nouveau and load nvidia manually each time I want to start a session.
[02:52] <nicomachus> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)
[02:53] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: OK, let me make sure ( been here done that) , Show me what we are working with ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 | pastebinit ' .
[02:53] <reisio> default modesetting is silly
[02:53] <reisio> whoever thought it up is a goof
[02:54] <Apteryx> The problem is I haven't found the magic to turn KMS off automatically. nomodeset strangely does not help
[02:54] <Apteryx> and blacklist neither...
[02:54] <Apteryx> I'm thinking I'll have to go buy some AMD card if I want peace.
[02:54] <ignitus> See when I try to install crossbuild-essentials-armhf  it tries to uninstall my build essentials basically.
[02:54] <nicomachus> Apteryx: AMD GPU user here, the grass is always greener on the other side.
[02:54] <reisio> Apteryx: nomodeset should od it
[02:54] <ignitus> Doesn't make sense
[02:55] <reisio> nicomachus: not in Yemen
[02:55] <nicomachus> lol
[02:55] <nicomachus> I had some crazy driver issues with my Radeon HD 6450
[02:55] <nicomachus> that was back in 14.04 though, I think.
[02:56] <EriC^> nicomachus: try just grub-install /dev/sda
[02:56] <nicomachus> same error
[02:56] <neuron> smokeless: no success man
[02:56] <EriC^> nicomachus: try update-grub
[02:56] <smokeless> neuron: that sucks. sorry about that.
[02:56] <EriC^> it might be all you need anyways
[02:56] <Apteryx> Bashing-om: 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G73 [GeForce 7300 GT] [10de:0393] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:820e] Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 42 Memory at fa000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at fb000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
[02:56] <neuron> smokeless: your cool man
[02:56] <nicomachus> done, no error
[02:56] <neuron> at least you help
[02:56] <Apteryx> sorry about that
[02:57] <nicomachus> !paste | Apteryx
[02:57] <Apteryx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11533886/
[02:57] <EriC^> nicomachus: type exit, then reboot
[02:57] <neuron> EriC^: can you help me with my ssmtp
[02:57] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/11533886/ .
[02:57] <nicomachus> EriC^: boot into the live CD or HDD?
[02:57] <EriC^> nicomachus: hdd
[02:58] <nicomachus> okey doke
[02:58] <EriC^> neuron: i dunno much about that
[02:58] <EriC^> sorry dude
[02:58] <nicomachus> haven't seen daftykins in awhile
[02:59] <neuron> EriC^: cool no problem man
[02:59] <nicomachus> EriC^: grub still reboots.
[02:59] <neuron> any fellas here knows about smtp or two
[02:59] <wastrel> people like smtp
[03:00] <knocktwice> had to learn some smtp recently :(
[03:00] <nicomachus> EriC^: has any of this given you an idea of what the issue is? or just kinda circling in on it?
[03:00] <neuron> knocktwice: do you have any ideas man
[03:00] <Apteryx> nicomachus: for a basic user (no heavy 3D games), is AMD delivering a solid open source driver? Like Ubuntu Unity is smooth and video playback is great
[03:00] <EriC^> nicomachus: i think something is missing from the install relating to encryption (just a guess)
[03:01] <EriC^> i think it's odd it doesn't ask for the pass phrase when you boot
[03:01] <nicomachus> yes, Apteryx. Catalyst Control Center can be a bit wonky, though. If you plan on using VGA or DVI, I don't think you'll have the issues I did.
[03:01] <nicomachus> EriC^: it asks for it after grub. but I haven't gotten past grub yet.
[03:01] <Apteryx> nicomachus: oh, you are using the Catalyst drivers? why not the mesa ones? I thought they were quite OK.
[03:02] <wastrel> ideas about what neuron
[03:02] <wastrel> pls
[03:02] <neuron> wastrel: troubleshooting my smtp mail server
[03:02] <neuron> not send email
[03:02] <nicomachus> I tried the catalyst drivers, and that's why I had the issues. I couldn't get scaling to work, the slider was just greyed out. but everything was supported. I ended up switching to the xorg driver and scaling with xrandr scripts on startup
[03:03] <nicomachus> because it's HDMI and the TV doesn't adjust for under/overscan
[03:03] <wastrel> like telnet localhost 80 ?
[03:03] <wastrel> er, 25
[03:04] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: Agreed the 304 driver is correct. So, what is now installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia | pastebinit ' ?
[03:04] <neuron> wastrel: For all those without any special chars, but still having Authorization failed (535): Google is simply blocking your "new" IP. Login via the web interface to the account you are trying to use, check the logins and tell google it's you.
[03:04] <neuron> wastrel: what does it mean
[03:04] <nicomachus> EriC^: I was able to decrypt and mount the disk in nautilus. I did have suitable permissions to access the Home folder, though, and nautilus wouldn't open with gksu
[03:04] <histo> EriC^: he probably neesd to enable the encrypt hook for his initrd
[03:04] <neuron> I got it from the ubuntu forums
[03:04] <knocktwice> neuron: the echo|mail worked perfectly for me.
[03:05] <wastrel> neuron: google smtp requires authentication you can't just relay mail through them
[03:05] <neuron> knocktwice: how did you do that
[03:05] <neuron> can you give me an example
[03:05] <neuron> wastrel: so what do I do then
[03:05] <neuron> some people in the ubuntu forums are able
[03:05] <wastrel> what mail client are you using
[03:05] <shenko> So then I tells her "sudo make me a sandwich"
[03:05] <neuron> I just need to figure this part out
[03:05] <nicomachus> s/did have/did not have
[03:06] <neuron> smtp
[03:06] <knocktwice> neuron: just like you did: echo "Hi there!"| mail -s 'Test Mail'<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:06] <nicomachus> but I was able to get to system files, which are also on the encrypted disk
[03:07] <wastrel> neuron: so you've set up some sort of local mta that is trying to relay through google?
[03:08] <knocktwice> neuron: google was rejecting my mail until I set up an SPF dns record
[03:09] <linocisco> hi all, excuse me if my question is shot in wrong channel. I would like to read a book about php and mysql explained using Ubuntu LAMP. could somebody refer me to any title? I am starter to learn php and mysql using ubuntu LAMP server on vm
[03:09] <histo> nicomachus: what's your /etc/crypttab look like on the disk?
[03:09] <nicomachus> EriC^ and histo: not sure if this will help, but this is the paste from the boot-repair that i ran: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11531472/
[03:10] <nicomachus> histo: you may have to help me get there. I've rebooted now, so I'll have to mount everything again.
[03:10] <raihanteknologi> join /channel<bandung>
[03:11] <knocktwice> linocisco: personally I've never found books about software to be worth much.  Just get in there and mess with it.
[03:11] <neuron> knocktwice: still got problems
[03:11] <neuron> knocktwice: nd-mail: Authorization failed (534 5.7.14 https://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=78754 mq2sm18885927pbb.16 - gsmtp)
[03:11] <neuron> knocktwice: in your case did you use your gmail account as well
[03:11] <Apteryx> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11533995/. Thanks for helping.
[03:14] <EriC^> nicomachus: it's kind of odd it's still using the 3.13 kernel with 15.04
[03:14] <linocisco> knocktwice, most are explained in XAMPP. my goal is to learn both at the same time. ubuntu LAMP and (php&MySQL)
[03:14] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: :) look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/11533995/.
[03:14] <EriC^> nicomachus: did you boot the live usb again?
[03:14] <shenko> Also keep an eye on mariadb, they say it may one day overtake mysql
[03:14] <nicomachus> EriC^: old mobo with a Core2Duo.
[03:14] <nicomachus> and yes, I'm in the live version.
[03:15] <EriC^> mount everything like you did before
[03:15] <nicomachus> trying to remember what exactly I did
[03:15] <knocktwice> neuron: http://serverfault.com/questions/635139/how-to-fix-send-mail-authorization-failed-534-5-7-14
[03:16] <knocktwice> neuron: be sure to read all the answers, not just the first one.
[03:16] <neuron> wastrel: I do not now whether smtp is MTA or not
[03:16] <neuron> this is my first time using, deploying and testing a mail server on my own
[03:16] <shenko> Wats MTA???
[03:17] <wastrel> it is a mail server sorry lazy typing
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> !smtp | neuron
[03:17] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: Looks good, so is "nouveau> blacklisted ' sudo grep 'blacklist.*nouveau' /etc/modprobe.d/* ' ?
[03:18] <neuron> lotuspsychje: !smtp | neuron what does that mean
[03:18] <qkit> any one have any luck installing drbd in ubuntu?
[03:19] <neuron> knocktwice: will do thanks
[03:19] <neonixcoder> Ben64:When I try to upgrade with "do-release-upgrade -f DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive" I am getting "WARNING: Failed to read mirror file
[03:19] <neonixcoder> "..
[03:20] <neonixcoder> Any suggestions?
[03:20] <EADG> I'm using Screen on the frame buffer, however, FBI will not display images - it complains about Screen not being a Linux terminal. Can anybody recommend a terminal/frame buffer program for browsing inages?
[03:20] <nicomachus> EriC^: back to root@
[03:21] <EriC^> nicomachus: ok, type ls -l /boot | nc termbin.com 9999
[03:21] <knocktwice> neuron: mta? smtp? looks like you need to do more research.
[03:22] <neuron> knocktwice: yup man
[03:22] <neuron> I told you I got this new web admin role given to me
[03:22] <neuron> not just development
[03:22] <knocktwice> neuron: good luck.  that's a large ball of wax
[03:22] <neuron> knocktwice: lol
[03:22] <neuron> well if all seems to get stuck
[03:22] <knocktwice> neuron: email is crufty with age
[03:22] <neuron> just keep trying
[03:23] <neuron> knocktwice: any online resource you can direct me to
[03:23] <Corey___> hi is there anyway to move the minimize maximize and close button to the right? its the only thing thats keep me from switching to ubuntu from windows, running 15.04
[03:23] <knocktwice> neuron: not really.  dovecot seems to have their stuff together.
[03:24] <knocktwice> neuron: various hosting services have good introductions
[03:24] <neuron> knocktwice: you mean postfix
[03:24] <neuron> or exim4
[03:24] <neurot> Corey___ xubuntu or kubuntu
[03:24] <nicomachus> EriC^: http://termbin.com/mnay
[03:24] <nicomachus> ^ cool tool, btw
[03:24] <shenko> @neuron I don't know how you are in programing. But maybe take a quick look at python (its like bash script) python has smtp module
[03:24] <knocktwice> neuron: yes, I'm running postfix
[03:25] <EriC^> nicomachus: ok, type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[03:25] <neuron> shenko: I am using php now
[03:25] <EriC^> /boot has the 3.19 kernel
[03:25] <neuron> I am committed to a project
[03:25] <Corey___> neurot, i really like the way unity looks and ive tried a lot of things to try and find the tearing on xubuntu but im just not happy with the performance when its fixed
[03:25] <neuron> I cannot just switch to python anyhow
[03:25] <Corey___> and i hate the way kde looks
[03:25] <neuron> knocktwice: it is much better and easier
[03:25] <knocktwice> neuron: that can be very good, but it can be exploited by mgmt
[03:26] <neuron> knocktwice: ypu
[03:26] <neuron> like I told you
[03:26] <neonixcoder> Ben64: My apt.log with errors at http://pastebin.com/CCg3sfYN
[03:26] <neuron> I just need to more project life cycles and I am out
[03:26] <neuron> lol
[03:26] <nicomachus> http://termbin.com/itht
[03:26] <neuron> at least a I got new experience which they can not deny that I did for them
[03:26] <nicomachus> EriC^ ^
[03:26] <knocktwice> neuron: be dedicated to yourself, not to a company.  They are not your friends.
[03:26] <neurot> Corey___ You may be able to move it to the right with weak tools
[03:27] <neuron> knocktwice: exactly
[03:27] <nicomachus> so it's trying to boot the wrong kernel?
[03:27] <Corey___> ive tried unity tweak tool, no go when i log out the option just gets reset
[03:27] <nicomachus> son of a bitch... this says 3.13
[03:27] <EriC^> nicomachus: yeah
[03:27] <Apteryx> Bashing-om: Yes it is! The nvidia installed added many blacklist definitions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11534481/
[03:27] <nicomachus> so are we going to edit the file that says DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE?
[03:27] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: I be look'n .
[03:28] <EriC^> nicomachus: well, let's try update-grub again
[03:28] <knocktwice> hahaha
[03:28] <EriC^> nicomachus: i'm curious about that custom.cfg in 41_custom
[03:28] <EriC^> nicomachus: is there a /boot/grub/custom.cfg file?
[03:29] <Apteryx> Bashing-om: I've also thrown in the "options nouveau modeset=0
[03:29] <Apteryx> line for good measure
[03:29] <neuron> knocktwice: I just registered to UpWork and Elance yesterday
[03:29] <nicomachus> update-grub says "found kernel: /vmlinuz-3.19.9-18-generic"... good sign? I didn't look for that last time.
[03:30] <EriC^> nicomachus: yeah that's great
[03:30] <shenko> I love it when a plan comes together
[03:30] <EriC^> try cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg and see if it's changed
[03:30] <nicomachus> I don't see custom.cfg in /boot/grub/
[03:31] <neuron> knocktwice: man I just read the link you gave and followed the instructions there
[03:31] <neuron> good news is I got no more of those authorization failure messages
[03:31] <neuron> but when I checked my friends account mail
[03:31] <neuron> we do not see any email
[03:31] <nicomachus> EriC^: http://termbin.com/69si
[03:32] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: OK, so the nvidia driver IS installed, "nouveau" IS blacklisted. Now the Nvidia driver depends on KMS, so booting with "nomodeset" defeats it . remove all your boot parameters and reboot . see now what results.
[03:32] <histo> nicomachus: yeah it's trying to boot the old kernels
[03:32] <histo> nicomachus: mount the rootfs and chroot there then sudo update-grub
[03:33] <histo> EriC^: shoudln't it be booting later than 3.13?
[03:33] <histo> !info linux-image
[03:34] <nicomachus> histo: 3.19 is installed in /boot, but grub is trying to boot 3.13
[03:34] <histo> nicomachus: yes
[03:34] <EriC^> nicomachus: still says 3.13
[03:34] <EriC^> so odd
[03:34] <EriC^> try chmod -x /etc/grub.d/41_custom
[03:34] <EriC^> and try update-grub again, just in case it matters, i guess not though
[03:35] <EriC^> histo: yeah
[03:36] <nicomachus> how do I get out of /boot/grub...?
[03:36] <nusr> hi i want to remove my windows partition and install another windows os on that partition while in ubuntu. can i use partition magic to do that?
[03:36] <EriC^> nicomachus: what do you mean?
[03:36] <nicomachus> cd ~ doesn't work. haha
[03:36] <EriC^> nicomachus: cd .. or cd /path
[03:36] <EriC^> nicomachus: did you try the chmod -x command?
[03:36] <nusr> or gparted
[03:37] <histo> nusr: gparted.  but when you instlal the other version of windows it will blow out grub.
[03:37] <histo> nusr: you'll just have to fix grub after that.
[03:38] <nusr> histo: how can i fix grub after?
[03:38] <knocktwice> neuron: good luck with elance.  Remember, hard to get started, but worth it if you stick to it.
[03:38] <neuron> knocktwice: thanks
[03:38] <neuron> but I can ask one more thing
[03:39] <histo> !grub | nusr
[03:40] <histo> nusr: why even bother with windows anymore?
[03:40] <nusr> histo: i love linux now. i can't even use windows on my laptop, drives me nuts. but i have applications that i must use for work and they have not been ported
[03:41] <histo> nusr: what applications?  There maybe alternatives
[03:42] <nicomachus> EriC^: I did the chmod -x command, yes
[03:42] <nusr> histo: i already checked. it's not. qcollector. and a neuralnet sw
[03:42] <EriC^> nicomachus: did you try update-grub again?
[03:42] <nicomachus> yes, it found the same kernel again.
[03:42] <EriC^> nicomachus: ok, try grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:43] <neuron> knocktwice: man we got
[03:43] <neuron> it
[03:43] <neuron> thanks
[03:43] <neuron> it was a success
[03:43] <EriC^> !yay
[03:43] <nusr> histo: i made the switch about a y ear ago and actually don't want to use windows but i have to. vm is not stable enough to run the environment in linux
[03:44] <histo> nusr: Any chance of either running in wine?
[03:44] <shenko> Open the champagne? Neuron?
[03:45] <snkcld> when i copy and paste in chrome, my browser freezes
[03:45] <nusr> histo: i can't run either in wine
[03:45] <snkcld> my tab, rather
[03:45] <snkcld> any clue how i can debug whats going on?
[03:45] <neuron> shenko: not yet
[03:45] <histo> nusr: :(
[03:45] <neuron> boss is around
[03:45] <nicomachus> EriC^: it found the 3.19 linux image, initrd image, and memtest
[03:45] <EriC^> nicomachus: ok, did the file /boot/grub/grub.cfg change?
[03:45] <neuron> plus nossy jealos IT people might think we are having a picnic in the office
[03:45] <neuron> we are suppose to develop cutting edge software
[03:46] <EADG> FBI in Screen: sudo fbi -T 1 image.jpg  <-- undocumented in the man. Now to figure out how to make that work with Elinks...
[03:46] <knocktwice> neuron: maaaan. f*** that company
[03:46] <neuron> knocktwice: lol
[03:46] <neuron> one more project life cycle man
[03:46] <neuron> just one more
[03:47] <shenko> And supposed to not take upper deckers in company toilet, do you see that stoping me?
[03:47] <nicomachus> EriC^: it's showing 3.19 now
[03:47] <nicomachus> think that did it?
[03:47] <EriC^> nicomachus: cool, maybe
[03:47] <EriC^> type exit
[03:47] <EriC^> and reboot
[03:47] <neuron> neuron: thing is my partner here played politics this morning
[03:47] <neuron> IT guys got a good royal dressing down for an hour or so
[03:47] <neuron> in front of us
[03:47] <knocktwice> double f*** that company
[03:47] <neuron> think justice is served
[03:48] <neuron> knocktwice: lol
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> keep it ontopic guys
[03:48] <neuron> knocktwice: so are you done with you project using java to port python codes
[03:49] <neuron> lotuspsychje: relax
[03:49] <neuron> no more
[03:49] <neuron> that was the last
[03:49] <Bashing-om> Apteryx: I am done for this session. Hope ypi identify your problem, then there can be reolution.
[03:49] <neuron> lotuspsychje: sorry
[03:49] <neuron> for anyone who wants to use smtp
[03:49] <neuron> and use google is the mail server of choice
[03:50] <neuron> make sure you make some changes into your own account settings
[03:50] <neuron> if not you will waste 24 hours figuring out what is wrong with your smtp
[03:50] <shenko> Neuron:tanx for the tip
[03:51] <neuron> shenko: that was nothing
[03:51] <nicomachus> EriC^: I made it to decryption. butttt it froze.
[03:51] <neuron> I think you have figured it out yourself
[03:51] <nicomachus> but it booted.
[03:51] <neuron> too
[03:51] <neuron> shenko: what language do you use
[03:51] <EriC^> nicomachus: you entered the passphrase?
[03:51] <nicomachus> keypresses aren't registering
[03:52] <shenko> Language in programing? Python and bash
[03:53] <histo> nicomachus: ?
[03:54] <nicomachus> EriC^: i've rebooted and am back at grub. I have a new option under advanced options labelled (upstart)
[03:55] <EriC^> nicomachus: that's for running 15.04 using upstart instead of systemd
[03:55] <nicomachus> ah I see.
[03:56] <knocktwice> I thought upstart was a replacement for sysV init.  Isn't systemd another beast entirely?
[03:57] <nicomachus> yea, the passphrase page is still just not registering any keypresses.
[03:57] <EriC^> knocktwice: yeah but i think it still has the capacity to use both, it still has /etc/init.d and /etc/init too
[03:58] <knocktwice> EriC^ "it" which? I'm confused. (and off topic)
[03:58] <EriC^> 15.04
[04:00] <EriC^> nicomachus: maybe related https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194
[04:00] <nicomachus> freezes at the same point in recovery mode too
[04:01] <nicomachus> EriC^: that's interesting. I am using a usb keyboard.
[04:02] <coolball> steam requires libc.so.6
[04:02] <coolball> where can i get it?
[04:03] <EriC^> nicomachus: i don't see where it mentioned the fix
[04:03] <histo> coolball: any reason you're not installing from the software center?
[04:03] <EriC^> lol, the guy does mention systemd making it a ton worse then it just ends
[04:03] <coolball> no
[04:03] <histo> coolball: sudo apt-get install steam
[04:04] <EriC^> nicomachus: try to unplug and replug the keyboard maybe
[04:04] <coolball> tyvm
[04:04] <nicomachus> weird: I looked away for a bit and when I looked back, after Enter passphrase it now says "[   142.812536] random: nonblocking poll is initialized"
[04:05] <nicomachus> (this is in recovery mode, so it's a command line interface)
[04:05] <EriC^> oh wait i'm on a different page
[04:06] <EriC^> was reading this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1387107
[04:06] <EriC^> i guess there's a fix on the other one
[04:09] <nicomachus> yea this guy says "Adding the module ohci_pci (and only that) to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and updating fixed it in my case."
[04:09] <nicomachus> I suppose I can give that a try
[04:09] <EriC^> yeah
[04:11] <chens> mtg@, who.you.wanadoo.fr
[04:11] <chens> who doo yoo wanadoo
[04:12] <nicomachus> EriC^: any way to do that from grub command line or do I need to boot the live cd?
[04:12] <EriC^> nicomachus: you need to boot the live cd
[04:12] <EriC^> and chroot and update-initramfs
[04:14] <nicomachus> I'll have to luksOpen and mount sda1 again?
[04:14] <EriC^> yup
[04:14] <nicomachus> ok
[04:15] <K0D35> any 1 know how to build a podcast stuido
[04:15] <Blue1> How do you play a bluray dvd?  I am not a n00b to linux, but I am a n00b to bluray?
[04:16] <Blue1> !bluray | blue1
[04:17] <K0D35> Im trying to use some old tech to put together a studio
[04:19] <nicomachus> EriC^: no command 'update-intramfs' found
[04:19] <EriC^> update-initramfs
[04:20] <EriC^> did you add the lines and stuff?
[04:20] <nicomachus> yea, that's what it was. sorry
[04:21] <Blue1> the ubotto information didn't really tell me anymore than I've already done.  I still can't get a bluray dvd to play.
[04:22] <Symbiosis> knocktwice: So I don't know if I've progressed through my problem, but now when I try to use firefox, it just says it's waiting for google.com.
[04:22] <Symbiosis> knocktwice: could it still be a firewall problem?
[04:23] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: I still think it's a problem on your remote.  Something like firewall.  Letting out, but not it?
[04:23] <knocktwice> *in?
[04:23] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: kern.log?
[04:24] <Symbiosis> knocktwice: well I'm using the Damn Small Linux OS, how would I access that log?
[04:24] <Symbiosis> knocktwice: on the remote machine, that is.
[04:24] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: sorry, not familiar with damn small linux
[04:25] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: ssh and cd /var/log and less kern.log no workee?
[04:25] <Symbiosis> one moment
[04:26] <Symbiosis> No such file
[04:26] <Symbiosis> haha
[04:27] <parsec2284> hi
[04:27] <parsec2284> how do i drag file in lxde it wont drag into the folder
[04:28] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: dunno where your firewall logs, if at all, but I'd check the logs just the same
[04:28] <Symbiosis> ls
[04:28] <Symbiosis> okay
[04:28] <Symbiosis> ignore ls
[04:29] <knocktwice> ls -lt | head  (find the most recently modified files)
[04:30] <parsec2284> anybody use lxde desktop?
[04:31] <fibeulstein> I do
[04:31] <fibeulstein> I love it. I used lubuntu which uses LXDE
[04:31] <fibeulstein> *use
[04:31] <parsec2284> im not sure how to gain access to a folder to drag a file in to it
[04:32] <fibeulstein> parsec2284, could you clarify what you mean?
[04:32] <Symbiosis> knocktwice: one other thing, when ever I assign a static ip (ifconfig eth0 *ip*) to eth0, after some time the static ip is removed. Is there a way to stop this?
[04:32] <Blue1> !aacs | blue1
[04:34] <knocktwice> is "NetworkManager" in your process list?  Somebody's overriding with an attempt at DHCP, I'd bet.
[04:34] <knocktwice> I had to delete the NetworkManager binary to get it to quit, last time I messed with it.
[04:35] <knocktwice> Not happy with people who write programs that respawn after you kill them with SIGKILL
[04:35] <parsec2284_> i created a folder using the terminal in usr/lib
[04:35] <histo> Symbiosis: What is the problem now?
[04:36] <histo> knocktwice: what like every daemon ever?
[04:36] <fibeulstein> parsec2284_, and you're attempting to access it via the explorer?
[04:36] <parsec2284_> but when i drag the file into that folder it just moves back into place
[04:36] <fibeulstein> ah
[04:36] <fibeulstein> because you need to be in sudo
[04:36] <nicomachus> EriC^: I edited the file, and ran the update command. it's asking for arguments
[04:36] <parsec2284_> i did type sudo
[04:36] <parsec2284_> in trmnial
[04:36] <parsec2284_> terminal
[04:37] <parsec2284_> is that the wrong thing to type
[04:37] <histo> parsec2284_: gksu thunar
[04:37] <fibeulstein> no, that should work
[04:37] <nicomachus> nvm, got it
[04:37] <histo> parsec2284_: what file are you trying to move/copy?
[04:37] <parsec2284_> a linux vst plugin
[04:38] <parsec2284_> for a program called ardour
[04:39] <knocktwice> histo: if you kill the daemon, it stays dead.  NetworkManager must be a subprocess of another process.
[04:39] <histo> parsec2284_: ls -l /path/to/plugin
[04:40] <histo> parsec2284_: and ls -l /path/to/destination
[04:41] <knocktwice> If you want your daemon to restart, allow it to restart on SIGHUP.  SIGKILL means "and stay dead".
[04:42] <histo> knocktwice: systemctl stop NetworkManager
[04:43] <histo> knocktwice: the service has restart configured
[04:43] <Blue1> here's what I am getting from vlc when trying to play a bluray dvd:  no valid processing key found in aacs config file - what does this mean?  googling only made things more confusing.
[04:44] <histo> knocktwice: you could edit the service and change the behavior
[04:44] <xangua> bluray and linux don't get along very well
[04:45] <knocktwice> histo: Sorry, I'm just unhappy with the "new way" of handling system services.
[04:45] <knocktwice> "You might be a gray-beard if..."
[04:46] <Blue1> xangua: apparently not.  but the error message is meaningless.  it opens up an aacs file - but then what do I do?
[04:46] <histo> Blue1: do you have libaacs#
[04:48] <Blue1> histo: yes:  ii  libaacs0:amd64   0.7.0-1      amd64        free-and-libre implementation of AACS
[04:48] <histo> Blue1: do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[04:49] <Blue1> histo: yes
[04:49] <histo> Blue1: https://daharper.wordpress.com/2014/05/08/blu-ray-playback-in-kubuntu-14-04/
[04:49] <histo> Blue1: add the keys etc...
[04:49] <Blue1> histo: thanks I'll look at that
[04:50] <histo> knocktwice: I know. I was at first. I like systemd much more now though.
[04:51] <knocktwice> histo: I'm on the devuan mailing list :) not sure which side of the fence I'm on though.
[04:52] <histo> knocktwice: give it a chance. You'll start to see the bennefits
[04:52] <kingsman> hi
[04:54] <knocktwice> hi
[04:56] <nusr> histo: i unmounted the windows partition, deleted, and reinstalled another windows os on the partition. but when i restart, it boots to windows. i looked at boot options and there is only the option to boot to windows. how can i select the linux partition so i can proceed with repairing grub? do i insert my ubuntu usb and proceed from there?
[04:56] <Blue1> histo: i looked at that and I added a couple of things but it still complains about the aacs config file - there is a directory on the disc itself with aacs information...but what do I do with that?  that seems to be the rub.
[04:56] <histo> nusr: I told you, you have to go through the process of repairing grub.
[04:56] <histo> !grub | nusr
[04:56] <histo> nusr: look at the restore grub section
[04:57] <knocktwice> nusr: is UEFI interfering with your boot? check bios.
[04:57] <Blue1> nusr: this may/may not help:  http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/
[04:57] <histo> knocktwice: it's not uefi, He just reinstalled widows
[04:57] <nusr> ok let me try
[04:57] <histo> Blue1: it doesn't get much harder than boot-repair link I sent
[04:57] <Blue1> histo: k
[05:04] <Symbiosis> knocktwice: can you explain something to me? in the ssh man, what is the use of -l when the user to connect with is specified in user@host?
[05:04] <Decoy_Platypus> Symbiosis: use one or the other, you don't need both
[05:05] <Symbiosis> so i can do either -l user host or user@host?
[05:05] <knocktwice> Symbiosis: I think you can do it either way
[05:05] <Decoy_Platypus> Symbiosis: yep, i like to do ssh host -l user
[05:05] <Decoy_Platypus> makes it simple to change users when you reuse the command
[05:05] <knocktwice> easier for scripting
[05:06] <Symbiosis> Ah! Makes sense.
[05:08] <nusr> histo: o dear..i booted using the ubuntu usb, installed boot-repair and ran it successfully. but when i rebooted, windows starts up automatically. i tried rebooting again while holding the left shift to get dual boot but still windows
[05:09] <logan___> nusr, you must use the force ;-)
[05:09] <nusr> logan___: i'm trying..:)
[05:10] <histo> nusr: Is this a uefi system?
[05:10] <nusr> logan___: do or not do..there is no try
[05:10] <nusr> histo: i disabled uefi to boot from usb
[05:10] <aterdeus> any ideas about (ImportError: No module named font) ?
[05:10] <nusr> histo: maybe i need to do it again
[05:10] <knocktwice> aterdeus: context?
[05:11] <aterdeus> ?
[05:11] <aterdeus> pygame
[05:12] <histo> nusr: create a bootinfo url from boot-repair
[05:12] <aterdeus> here's the stuff
[05:12] <aterdeus> File "/home/gnu/Desktop/racey.py", line 29, in message_display
[05:12] <aterdeus>     largeText = pygame.font.Font('freesansbold.ttf',115)
[05:12] <aterdeus>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pygame/__init__.py", line 70, in __getattr__
[05:12] <aterdeus>     raise NotImplementedError(MissingPygameModule)
[05:12] <aterdeus> NotImplementedError: font module not available
[05:13] <nusr> histo: ok windows is doing a startup repair..taking forever. when it's done i'll boot into ubuntu again
[05:13] <knocktwice> aterdeus: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=289229
[05:13] <histo> nusr: which version of windows did you install?
[05:13] <knocktwice> aterdeus: and startpage gives a couple of good answers
[05:13] <nusr> histo: 7
[05:13] <nusr> ridiculous..i just hard reboot and now windows cannot repair this computer automatically
[05:14] <aterdeus> no answer there
[05:14] <knocktwice> aterdeus: oops, sorry.
[05:15] <Decoy_Platypus> haha
[05:15] <Decoy_Platypus> aterdeus: what are you running? your own python script or something else?
[05:16] <aterdeus> python 2.7
[05:16] <Decoy_Platypus> aterdeus: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5255385/how-to-install-pygame-font
[05:17] <Decoy_Platypus> aterdeus: maybe that helps you?
[05:17] <knocktwice> aterdeus: from pygame.locals import * ?
[05:18] <Decoy_Platypus> aterdeus: what imports do you have in that file?
[05:19] <sebastian> what's the command on the terminal for the sound preferences?
[05:20] <Decoy_Platypus> sebastian: unity-control-center sound
[05:20] <sebastian> the link on the corner doesnt seem to wokr on lxde
[05:20] <sebastian> so i need to know
[05:21] <nusr> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11536207
[05:21] <m0r0n> Is there an offtopic ubuntu?
[05:21] <Guest10411> i need a script so that only the left speaker sounds
[05:21] <Guest10411> from boot up
[05:21] <Flannel> m0r0n: yes, #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:21] <m0r0n> ty
[05:21] <Decoy_Platypus> Guest10411: that command my not work on lxde, not sure
[05:22] <Decoy_Platypus> Guest10411: *may* not work
[05:23] <Guest10411> worked
[05:23] <Guest10411> thanks
[05:23] <Decoy_Platypus> Guest10411: how about a a sound file that only has audio on left channel? might be easier to get that to work than changing balance
[05:23] <Decoy_Platypus> or not
[05:24] <histo>  nusr boot the usb in uefi mode and run boot repair
[05:24] <aterdeus> what's the thing with  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pygame/__init__.py", line 70
[05:24] <aterdeus> it says:  self.urgent = 1
[05:24] <histo> nusr: nvm. holdup
[05:25] <Wahm200> hey alll
[05:26] <Wahm200> anyone in here have virtual box
[05:26] <Wahm200>  just installed virtual box..but i cant see my windows partitions
[05:27] <NegativeFlare> Wahm200: What are you trying to achieve?
[05:28] <NegativeFlare> You don't need Virtualbox to access your windows paritions on Linux
[05:28] <nusr> histo: i got the booturl
[05:28] <Wahm200> why
[05:28] <nusr> histo:http://paste.ubuntu.com/11536207/
[05:28] <NegativeFlare> Wahm200: that's just not how it works
[05:28] <NegativeFlare> !ntfs | Wahm200
[05:29] <Wahm200> thansk just got the answer
[05:29] <NegativeFlare> Wahm200: no problem
[05:30] <Wahm200> hey anyone try windows 10?
[05:30] <Wahm200> or is ubuntu going to replace windows?
[05:31] <histo> nusr: k let me take a look
[05:31] <nusr> histo: thank you
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[05:34] <nusr> histo: so all my stuff is gone?
[05:35] <nusr> histo: windows is on sda1
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[05:37] <nusr> histo: thought i partitioned right. didn't backup my ubuntu files
[05:37] <histo> xangua: I tried
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[05:37] <histo> nusr: did you mount sda2?
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[05:38] <nusr> histo: only the windows partition is showing
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[05:38] <histo> nusr: sorry sda1   sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
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[05:39] <histo> nusr: okay sudo umount /mnt && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
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[05:40] <nusr> histo: mount is denied because the ntfs volume is already exclusively opened
[05:41] <histo> nusr: sudo umount /dev/sda1 && sudo umount /dev/sda2 && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[05:42] <histo> +1 Flannel
[05:43] <qkit> hmm..anyone success install remus drbd with ubuntu 14.04 ?
[05:44] <histo> nusr: what's on that partition?
[05:44] <nusr> histo: nothing
[05:44] <qkit> i follow this guide http://www.akorzan.com/posts/2014/12.01-00.html but when i try make command i getting  kernel makefile not found.     You need to tell me a correct KDIR,
[05:44] <histo> nusr: what it's blank?
[05:45] <qkit> when i inserted the kernel source code are located , i get this error include/linux/mmzone.h:18:30: fatal error: generated/bounds.h: No such file or directory
[05:45] <histo> nusr: when you installed windows did you specify a partition to install to?  Or just let it use the entire disk
[05:45] <histo> nusr: it looks like there is no linux partition on that drive other than a left over swap
[05:45] <nusr> histo: i specified the partition that was previously occupied by theo ther windows
[05:46] <nusr> histo: if i bring the disk to a diskrepair do you think i can get it back?
[05:46] <histo> nusr: lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:46] <nusr> histo: all my python scripts and files
[05:47] <nusr> http://termbin.com/g6ve
[05:47] <histo> nusr: sda1 is not windows
[05:47] <histo> nusr: it's only 100mb
[05:47] <histo> nusr: if you ls /mnt   what is there?
[05:48] <nusr> documents and settings, programdata etc
[05:48] <jdlizard> can anyone tell me if samba 4 active directory is  dependable?
[05:49] <nusr> histo: do you think i can get back my files on the linux partition now that they are gone
[05:49] <histo> nusr: sudo umount /mnt
[05:49] <nusr> histo: ok done
[05:49] <histo> nusr: depends did you have a seperate /home partition in ubuntu?
[05:50] <nusr> histo: yes it was on a separate partition
[05:50] <histo> nusr: you could try using testdisk to see if it can restore the partition structure you had before. Then trying to mount and copy your files out and unscrew your ssytem.
[05:51] <nusr> histo: so run testdisk in butuntu?
[05:51] <histo> nusr: yeah.  stop booting that drive if you want any chance at recovery
[05:52] <histo> nusr: stay on live media in the mean time.
[05:52] <nusr> histo: ok i'll download testdisk
[05:52] <histo> nusr: You have to decide if the files you lost are worth the time and possibly money to recover
[05:53] <nusr> histo: would be nice to have. it's all my programming stuff
[05:53] <nusr> histo: how can i download testdisk. it's not on the software center
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | nusr
[05:54] <histo> nusr: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[05:54] <histo> nusr: Do you have the files backed up anywhere?
[05:55] <nusr> histo: here's the thing. i backedup all the windows stuff since i was going to delete the partition, but not the linux
[05:56] <nusr> histo: unable to locate package testdisk
[06:02] <nusr> histo: ok i have testdisk
[06:03] <histo> nusr: run testdisk and try and analyze the disk
[06:04] <nusr> histo: ok i'm running it now. detected intel partition. and there is a linux bit
[06:05] <nusr> histo: thanks for your help
[06:05] <histo> nusr: not the swap you have to do a quick search to look for the lost /home partition
[06:05] <nusr> histo: ok it's scanning now
[06:07] <nusr> it's there
[06:07] <nusr> histo: it found the home directory
[06:07] <nusr> histo: but it's encrypted
[06:07] <nusr> ahh
[06:07] <histo> nusr: it found the partition?
[06:08] <histo> nusr: are you thinking of sending the drive out for data recovery?
[06:08] <nusr> histo: i don't know if it found it, but in the linux option it found the name of my prevous home directory
[06:08] <nusr> histo: yeah i will probably do that unless i can copy everything to external drive
[06:08] <histo> nusr: You had an encrypted home before?
[06:09] <nusr> histo: yes. i have to find the password
[06:09] <histo> nusr: I wouldn't try any further if you're gonig to send it out as you risk overwriting data and making it worse
[06:09] <histo> nusr: it's very expensive for them to recover data, You do realize right?
[06:09] <nusr> histo: so just send it? even if it is encrypted?
[06:09] <nusr> histo: don't know how much it costs
[06:10] <nusr> histo: the world is a better place without windows
[06:10] <histo> nusr: You'd have to follow whatever firm you want to uses directions.
[06:10] <histo> nusr: typically thousands
[06:10] <nusr> histo: :(
[06:10] <nusr> histo: ok thanks for your help
[06:11] <histo> nusr: if you're willing to pay that then don't proceed
[06:11] <histo> nusr: do you have a spare hard drive anywhere?
[06:11] <nusr> histo: i have an external drive
[06:11] <nusr> histo; i feel sick
[06:12] <histo> nusr: I would fire up clonezilla and create a disk image to the external.  Then you can mess with the disk image without risk of causing further loss.
[06:12] <nusr> histo: the entire thing?
[06:12] <histo> nusr: yeah.. you can compress the image.
[06:12] <neuron> how come when I type /join ##php
[06:12] <histo> nusr: or use dd and compress the output
[06:13] <neuron> I am not transferred to a php channel at all
[06:13] <nusr> histo:ok thanks.
[06:13] <neuron> worst no new channel appears on the left side bar of irc channels
[06:13] <neuron> what did I do wrong
[06:13] <nusr> histo; ok thanks histo. i got to go
[06:13] <wafflejock> neuron, you need to have a registered nick to join
[06:13] <neuron> how do I register my nick
[06:13] <nusr> i hate windows even more now
[06:14] <wafflejock> neuron, https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[06:18] <slothbear> exit
[06:22] <raiz> hola
[06:23] <wafflejock> hello raiz
[06:30] <easyOnMe_> wafflejock: how do I change the email I used to register my nick
[06:30] <easyOnMe_> I supplied the wrong email
[06:30] <easyOnMe_> typo
[06:31] <wafflejock> easyOnMe_, sorry not sure, I managed to register my own but don't know the details really
[06:32] <wafflejock> easyOnMe_, maybe can check NickServ commands but dunno if you can do anything if the e-mail is wrong since it typically e-mails you to verify or reset
[06:32] <easyOnMe_> wafflejock: that's the problem
[06:32] <Flannel> easyOnMe_: Try contacting a staffer.
[06:32] <easyOnMe_> Flannel: like how to contact a staff
[06:33] <histo> easyOnMe_: #freenode
[06:33] <histo> easyOnMe_: or the help channel
[06:34] <easyOnMe_> histo: ok
[06:34] <easyOnMe_> will do
[06:34] <easyOnMe_> thanks
[06:58] <k1lumin4t1> Hi there
[06:58] <k1lumin4t1> I've recently upgraded to Ubuntu 15.04 through the ubuntu update manager; but now KDE session won't start
[07:00] <wafflejock> k1l_, might want to check the permissions on the .xsession in the ~ home folder
[07:01] <wafflejock> k1l_, assuming you see the login but are getting kicked back out
[07:01] <wafflejock> k1l_, make sure the file is owned by your user
[07:01] <k1lumin4t1> wafflej0ck, are you reffering to me?
[07:01] <wafflejock> ah yeah
[07:01] <wafflejock> k1lumin4t1, had to tab twice
[07:01] <wafflejock> sorry k1l_
[07:01] <nusr> histo: i can see all the directories of my linux home in testdisk. i tried to copy but i can't
[07:02] <k1lumin4t1> wafflej0ck, but the rest of the Desktop Environments are working ok
[07:02] <wafflejock> k1lumin4t1, ah hmm k could just try reinstalling the kubuntu-desktop I suppose
[07:02] <k1lumin4t1> wafflej0ck, I see the loggin, I'm using Lightdm; but the problem is that when I select PLASMA it won't start
[07:03] <k1lumin4t1> wafflej0ck, did the reinstallation of kubuntu-full
[07:03] <wafflejock> k1lumin4t1, do you have other DEs that you can get into?
[07:03] <k1lumin4t1> wafflej0ck, all the others, Gnome. XFCE, LXDE
[07:05] <wafflejock> k1lumin4t1, hmm you could try blowing away any .kde configuration folder in your home folder I suppose or purge, I imagine you already checked, dmesg and /var/log/syslog
[07:06] <k1lumin4t1> wafflej0ck, what should I look for in dmesg and /var/log/syslog ?
[07:06] <k1lumin4t1> wafflej0ck, I did purge .config, .cache and .kde
[07:06] <wafflejock> k1lumin4t1, just anything suspicious, errors, in particular you can check it out before logging in and then after logging in or use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to keep a tail -f /var/log/syslog, going
[07:07] <wafflejock> k1lumin4t1, Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to GUI
[07:07] <k1lumin4t1> wafflej0ck, that's the thing, when I try loading PLASMA and then hit on a TTY, it won't
[07:08] <k1lumin4t1> wafflej0ck, the screen gets freezed on the lightdm
[07:09] <wafflejock> k1lumin4t1, okay after that happens then just check /var/log/syslog to see if there are any errors or related looking warnings near the end
[07:10] <Seveas> hmm, Drone` gone rogue?
[07:14] <wafflejock> k1lumin4t1, you can run, sudo logrotate /etc/logrotate.conf, that'll rotate all the logs including syslog so you can have a clean log to look at
[07:21] <TyrfingMjolnir> Where are my vars for the openvpn package after upgrading to 14.04?
[07:28] <Number5> Hello guys, I did an ifconfig and found out that my network adapter named 'rename3', how come?
[07:29] <varunwachaspati> Need help setting up wifi hotspot on ubuntu 15.04
[07:29] <hateball> Number5: have a look in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[07:30] <Number5> hateball, if I want to google about it, what keywords should I use?
[07:31] <hateball> Number5: dunno "ubuntu network interface name"
[07:31] <hateball> Number5: have you cloned the machine or switched any hardware etc?
[07:31] <Number5> hateball, ok thnx my friend.
[07:31] <hateball> anyhow it is defined in that file, so you can just change it as you like
[07:32] <wafflejock> varunwachaspati, what exactly are you trying to do and what have you tried so far?
[07:33] <varunwachaspati> wafflejock: I am trying to setup a wifi hotspot which even my android device can detect and access,
[07:34] <varunwachaspati> wafflejock: I have tried package ap-hotspot which in turn uses hotsapd
[07:36] <varunwachaspati> wafflejock: There seems to be an issue accessing the network through my device, although I can detect network but not able to connect to it
[07:36] <wafflejock> varunwachaspati, did you follow this forum? http://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/how-to-setup-an-access-point-mode-wi-fi-hotspot or something else?
[07:39] <citrix> Hii guys
[07:39] <citrix> i have to run video in html then what should i run???
[07:40] <goongoon> citrix: what
[07:40] <vlt> citrix: In HTML 5 there's a <video> element.
[07:40] <Rando338> what is the proper way to install Virtual Box guest additions for the newest version of Virtual Box + Ubuntu 14.04?
[07:41] <Rando338> I tried the method that worked on my previous VM and can't get the resolution to change now:/
[07:41] <goongoon> Rando338: virtualbox shoved in you ass
[07:41] <Rando338> computer is AMD CPU with a GeForce card, so it's not an Intel issue
[07:42] <Rando338> well, thank you asshole
[07:42] <wafflejock> Rando338, ignore the trolls
[07:42] <citrix>  yes i m running that video but it's giving the error
[07:42] <jgoyon> Hi there, I am looking for help to buy a computer to install ubuntu. Can someone redirect me to the right channel ? (requirements are : lot of memory + ssd / I plan to run many virtual boxes on it at the same time / does not need to be a laptop)
[07:43] <varunwachaspati> wafflejock: I have used a script that accomplishes the same procedure, Link - https://gist.github.com/dashohoxha/5767262
[07:43] <varunwachaspati> wafflejock: Still no use
[07:44] <Rando338> jgoyon - just look for a computer? it's not an ubuntu specific issue, really. For many virtual machines you probably want a decent CPU and tons of RAM
[07:44] <wafflejock> varunwachaspati, you get prompted for a password?
[07:44] <varunwachaspati> wafflejock: Yes
[07:45] <wafflejock> jgoyon, if you don't mind a slight markup might want to consider System76 since they install and test exclusively with Ubuntu
[07:46] <Rando338> what could I have messed up with the guest additions install? I installed through apt-get install virtualbox-guest-dkms
[07:46] <wafflejock> varunwachaspati, sounds like the DHCP probably isn't working since it sounds like everything up till that point is working
[07:46] <goongoon> wafflejock: slight markup? Their crooks
[07:47] <Rando338> and I checked the other machine - still running full res, so I have no idea what's wrong with this one
[07:49] <goongoon> wafflejock: hey goon
[07:49] <wafflejock> !ops
[07:49] <Rando338> has no one installed ubuntu on virtualbox lately to be able to help?
[07:50] <wafflejock> sorry this is annoying
[07:50] <varunwachaspati> wafflejock: here are the logs http://paste.ubuntu.com/11538035/
[07:50] <varunwachaspati> wafflejock : can you have a look and tell me where is it going wrong
[07:52] <wafflejock> varunwachaspati, if you run sudo service wifi_access_point start, it works fine no errors or a success message?
[07:53] <varunwachaspati> wafflejock: there is nothing echoed on terminal and no wifi hotspot is created or atleast has not been detected by my phone
[07:56] <wafflejock> varunwachaspati, hmm well that's not a good sign can try sudo service dhcpd status, and see if that's running, but seems like the two pieces to get it working are the access point software to use your wifi as an AP and the DHCP for assigning IPs to any connected devices
[07:57] <hoonhoon> wafflejock: you told someone to buy system76 computer. You part of them crooks.
[07:58] <varunwachaspati> wafflejock: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11538132/
[08:00] <wafflejock> varunwachaspati, hmm maybe a red herring might be that dhcpd just doesn't have a service script written
[08:01] <wafflejock> varunwachaspati, looks like typically to restart it the command is   /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart
[08:05] <varunwachaspati> wafflejock:  that doesn't work
[08:05] <varunwachaspati> wafflejock , anything else that you have on your mind?
[08:06] <elephont> varunwachaspati: what
[08:06] <varunwachaspati> elephont: the command wafflejock suggested didn't work
[08:07] <zotherstupidguy> how to convert djvu to pdf?
[08:08] <elephont> Did you sudo varunwachaspati
[08:08] <elephont> zotherstupidguy: online file converter or calibre
[08:10] <varunwachaspati> elephont: no such file or directory exists
[08:11] <wafflejock> varunwachaspati, ah it's, sudo service isc-dhcp-server restart
[08:11] <wafflejock> varunwachaspati, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/isc-dhcp-server
[08:11] <linnov> Hi. Can someone help me? I've installed Ubuntu, enable UFW with default settings... and access to Internet fails.
[08:11] <irgendwer4711> hi, I got this raid problem with 14.04: "incrementally starting raid arrays". I coulnd find a good solution. need heelp
[08:14] <Corey___> hi is there a way to move the minimize maximize and close buttons from the left to the right its the only thing keeping me from switching to ubuntu from windows on 15.04
[08:15] <wafflejock> Corey___, think it's in the unity-tweak tool could use Gnome or KDE or XFCE too though
[08:16] <Corey___> wafflejock, tried it, when i click right nothing happens when i login and logout the option resets to default and i dont like kde and to much trouble with video tearing on xfce
[08:17] <k1l_> Corey___: its not supposed to be switched to the right side on unity. the whole idea behind the usage dosnt make sense then
[08:17] <wafflejock> Corey___, Gnome? I switched to gnome cause of some stuff including that in Unity
[08:17] <histo> Corey___: yes there is a way
[08:17] <Corey___> im not sure about gnome i really like how unity looks but i just wish the minimize buttons were on the right
[08:18] <histo> Corey___: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout ':minimize,maximize,close'
[08:18] <k1l_> Corey___: just give it a try, after a week you will not notiice you want them on the right side again
[08:18] <Number5> hateball, I got it. Thank for the pointer :)
[08:18] <wafflejock> Corey___, yeah I would recommend Gnome only bad thing I think right now is the notifications "tray" which is too hidden but it'll be fixed in 3.16
[08:18] <histo> Corey___: if you want to change it go right ahead. The point is you're able to in linux
[08:18] <histo> k1l_: ^^^
[08:19] <Corey___> do i have to logout for that histo ?
[08:19] <histo> Corey___: you have to restart x
[08:20] <histo> Corey___: well unity for that matter.
[08:20] <histo> Corey___: Not on unity to try it but you may not even have to log out
[08:21] <linnov> Corey___:why do you not use hot key for minimize/maximize? It's faster and easier.
[08:21] <k1l_> histo: log out to let the changes take effekt
[08:22] <k1l_> well, that was meant for corey___
[08:22] <corey___> histo, didn't work :(
[08:22] <corey___> re-paste? restarted x
[08:22] <histo> corey___: make sure you copy it exactly and paste in a terminal.  The :  is important
[08:22] <corey___> did
[08:24] <histo> corey___: were you logged in as your user in the terminal?
[08:24] <histo> corey___: don't use sudo just like I typed it
[08:25] <corey___> didnt use sudo and yes
[08:26] <histo> corey___: lol they hard coded it
[08:27] <histo> +1 for ubuntu devs wth
[08:27] <corey___> woooooooooooooooooooow
[08:28] <corey___> why would they do that o_O
[08:29] <histo> corey___: "to provide a consistent user experience"
[08:29] <histo> lol how sad
[08:29] <k1l_> i already answered that :/  the idea behind the desktop setup is to have it on the left. and after some days you wont notice the change anymore.
[08:30] <k1l_> i mean if you sent a patch, i am sure they will include it :)  but the devs are working on unity8 right now.
[08:31] <popey> unity7 is still maintained
[08:31] <popey> there is a team on it
[08:31] <histo> k1l_: there is no patch
[08:32] <k1l_> popey: yes, but they wont change that hardcoded buttons-on-the-left thing.
[08:32] <popey> k1l_: have they been asked?
[08:33] <k1l_> histo: yeah, someone who is angry about not beeing able to change the buttons will need to make that patch.
[08:33] <histo> popey: it's all over askubuntu k1l_ it's been complained about a lot on the net.
[08:33] <k1l_> popey: yes. i saw that in the bugreport somewhere
[08:33] <popey> thats not asking developers
[08:34] <popey> "complaining on the internet" = "shouting into the wind"
[08:34] <k1l_> histo: i dont speak about "i demand that to be changed". i speak about "i made a patch, please include  it"
[08:34] <popey> looks like the change happened in 14.04?
[08:35] <popey> bug 1309942
[08:35] <histo> k1l_: yeah why listen to the users, lets just decide this is the way period.
[08:36] <k1l_> histo: there is your approach of demanding and ranting. or there is the constructive approach of helping to get to a solution.
[08:37] <histo> k1l_: they've stated they won't fix it, patch or not. I don't know how else to explain it
[08:37] <Fodd> Morning guys.
[08:38] <popey> Yeah, bug is "wont fix"
[08:38] <Fodd> I've got a basic question about SFTP however i cant seem to get it working
[08:38] <Fodd> I've got a Virtual Machine running at the moment as im on my works pc. However at home im running ubuntu
[08:39] <Fodd> I've also got a webserver with ubuntu 14.04TLS running perfectly well :)
[08:39] <histo> I'm not going to argue anymore this is yet another reason people have switched.
[08:39] <Fodd> When i SFTP into the server using winscp i've got a PPK file created by Putty
[08:39] <histo> Fodd: what happens when you try to use it?
[08:39] <Fodd> On my windows machine, it works perfectly well
[08:40] <histo> !enter | Fodd
[08:40] <Fodd> i can SFTP into the machine, and edit/create files like i should be able to
[08:40] <Fodd> However, when i try and setup ubuntu
[08:40] <Fodd> i cant even get it to ask for the key
[08:41] <histo> Fodd: can you ssh from ubuntu in?
[08:41] <histo> Fodd: also are you trying to use the key you generated with putty?
[08:41] <Fodd> No, and No
[08:42] <histo> Fodd: did you disable password based login?
[08:42] <Fodd> yes
[08:42] <Fodd> so i have to use the putty key
[08:42] <histo> Fodd: in linux right.
[08:42] <llutz> Fodd: http://superuser.com/questions/232362/how-to-convert-ppk-key-to-openssh-key-under-linux
[08:43] <Fodd> So, i need to convert my PPK to openssh?
[08:43] <histo> Fodd: yes
[08:43] <llutz> Fodd: yes
[08:43] <Fodd> okay :)
[08:43] <Fodd> thank you for the help guys
[08:44] <histo> Fodd: some people have said online that you can just copy the id_rsa.ppk to id_rsa and it works. However I think you'd have to convert it first.
[08:44] <histo> Fodd: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15378/how-do-i-install-a-ssh-private-key-generated-by-puttygen
[08:47] <llutz> histo: Fodd problem is, ppk-files contain private + public key, openssh expects only one type per file
[08:47] <histo> llutz: I know
[08:48] <histo> llutz: that's why i'm skeptical that people reporting it working simply by renaming the file works.
[08:57] <Rando338> are there no more guest additions available for ubuntu?
[08:57] <Rando338> for virtualbox
[08:58] <Rando338> when I try to install through terminal I get error for not found
[08:58] <blackflow> !info virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
[08:58] <Rando338> when I try through software center I get dependencies error
[08:58] <k1l_> Rando338: please put the terminal outputs into a pastebin so we can have a look
[08:59] <Fodd> woop woop
[08:59] <Fodd> that works
[08:59] <Fodd> however, i need to find the files now
[08:59] <Fodd> as its going to my home dir
[09:00] <Fodd> thank you llutz and histo
[09:00] <zprd> hi
[09:01] <Fodd> however, how do i go up a few folders? its just defaulting to my home dir, and i cannot see the www dir :S
[09:01] <llutz> Fodd: cd /var/www   or wherever your document-root is
[09:02] <Fodd> cant do that, im using the file explorer
[09:02] <Rando338> is there any way to get that iso file for windows?
[09:02] <k1l_> Rando338: what iso file?
[09:02] <Rando338> the guest additions iso
[09:02] <k1l_> Rando338: virtualbox ships a virtual iso file inside virtualbox.
[09:02] <Rando338> everything is for linux host
[09:02] <blackflow> Rando338: no, the guest additions are run inside the guest
[09:03] <k1l_> Rando338: the host doesnt need the guest additions
[09:03] <blackflow> Rando338: if you're using windows as guest, VB has that too on their site somehwere to download
[09:03] <Rando338> I'm using windows as host and I read that I have to mount the guest additions iso on the host
[09:03] <Rando338> I found it, though
[09:03] <k1l_> Rando338: if windows is inside the virtualbox, just clikc in the virtualbox menu and choose to mount the guest additions iso
[09:04] <blackflow> Rando338: yes, that was the old way before linux distros started packaging the additions to be used from within the guest like that, no external mounts required.
[09:05] <Rando338> they change this all the time, I cannot keep up:(
[09:06] <blackflow> Rando338: the guest additions are available as distro packages since years ago
[09:06] <Rando338> I always installed this through terminal download and now it doesn't work
[09:06] <Rando338> ok, I think the iso worked
[09:06] <Rando338> thanks
[09:06] <MonkeyDust> Rando338  that's called progress
[09:07] <Rando338> it's confusion really
[09:08] <Rando338> when it's changed all the time it's hard to figure out what method works currently
[09:08] <Fodd> Again, thank you Llutz
[09:08] <Rando338> because google searches will show a lot of irrelevant answers
[09:09] <blackflow> yeah, the side effects of free, decentralized information society.
[09:11] <Rando338> now to figure out how to set permissions for this test Apache server:/
[09:18] <Crucerio> hi, is there a tool that can identify my media files even when they don't have a specific filename or meta data?
[09:21] <histo> Crucerio: file somefile
[09:21] <histo> Crucerio: how do they not have meta data?
[09:24] <Crucerio> histo:  they are extracted from cd and some have useless names, banshee can't get the true metadata somehow
[09:25] <histo> Crucerio: see what file outputs
[09:29] <histo> Crucerio: any  luck?
[09:30] <Crucerio> histo: on some yes, on others no
[09:30] <demoz> hello, does anyone have experience with lvm ? I want to expant the root disk and take space from home, however i am unsure on how to accomplish this. http://0bin.cf/?eb2cca324b4e7f8a#vSut+SBAeJ15icfhZpIjt/LB491ABFC4zRBNgMNQpl0=
[09:30] <Crucerio> well at least some^^
[09:32] <Crucerio> is there something like mp3-tagger? or shazaam like tools that analyze the soundfile by looking at the song data itsself?
[09:33] <histo> demoz: are they both in the same vg
[09:33] <histo> Crucerio: easytag?
[09:34] <demoz> histo yes http://0bin.cf/?0246391c401ae824#Uz0YauhjQtXbPoArThgh/LjIHNiH0+4aP2dhTM+4AdY=
[09:34] <demoz> command issued is "lvs"
[09:34] <Crucerio> ok I will have a look on easytag. ...shouldn't the decibel curve be a very unique footprint of every song?
[09:34] <demoz> histo is it possible to resize root without reboot?
[09:34] <histo> demoz: you need more than 50g for root?
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> Crucerio  audio tagger
[09:35] <MonkeyDust> Crucerio  audio tag tool, ratherÂ
[09:35] <demoz> histo yes as /opt and other dirs are mounted to root appearently
[09:35] <demoz> and i am running out of space each minute
[09:36] <Crucerio> ok thanks to MonkeyDust and histo , I will check on these 2 tools
[09:36] <histo> demoz: Do you have backups?
[09:36] <the_drow> how do I configure the network manager to connect to a VPN using OpenVPN?
[09:36] <demoz> histo made snapshot, tho this is production ..
[09:37] <histo> demoz: ughhh.  well I 'believe' you can do online resizing. resize2fs and lvreduce  then you'd grow the other and resize that fs
[09:38] <histo> demoz: you really should unmount and fsck first though
[09:38] <demoz> histo maybe it would be easier to boot gui env and to do it graphically ?
[09:39] <histo> demoz: not really
[09:39] <demoz> please correct me if i am wrong, but isn't main feature of lvm to extend volume without reboot ? Is it problem because it it /root ?
[09:40] <demoz> it is*
[09:41] <histo> demoz: yeah but you really should have backups anytime you undertake something like this.
[09:41] <bekks> demoz: It depends on your filesystem used as well.
[09:41] <mcphail> the_drow: you need to install the openvpn package for networkmanager. i can't remember the package name but it will be some anagram of the 2 components!
[09:41] <the_drow> network-manager-openvpn yeh found it :)
[09:41] <the_drow> Took me a while though
[09:41] <mcphail> :)
[09:42] <demoz> histo thank you very much, i ll have to sit and think it trough and study documentation :) you really helped me ! thanks!
[09:42] <demoz> bekks thank you :)
[09:42] <histo> demoz: you'd resize2fs /dev/mapper/vg_disk/lv_home somesize then lvshrink etc...
[09:43] <histo> lvreduce not shrink sorry
[09:45] <demoz> histo thank you :)
[09:48] <histo> demoz: no problem when you resize2fs the one you are growing you don't have to speicify a size as it will expand to the full size of the lv.  So you increase the lv first on that one and then just resize2fs
[09:50] <demoz> histo: i understand now how it works :) you really helped me, thank you very much
[09:52] <histo> demoz: what kernel are you running?
[09:54] <histo> demoz: Don't think you'll be able to online shrink
[09:57] <Silentlord> hi, i want an email to contact someone regards application review
[09:58] <demoz> histo i would have to schedule downtime, and i will boot from installation dvd and resize the LV.. it would be easier... tho i will still go trough docs and man pages to learn cli way too :)
[09:58] <histo> demoz: yeap
[09:58] <histo> demoz: make sure you snapshots aren't just stored on the lvs you are messing with either. Put them elsewhere just incase
[09:59] <Silentlord> hi, i want an email to contact someone regards application reviewing
[09:59] <demoz> histo vmware snapshot, i mean total snapshot even of RAM :D but thanks for the hint :)
[10:03] <islam> hello everybody
[10:04] <histo> Silentlord: #ubuntu-devs?
[10:05] <Guest66785> videos doesn't work on FB on chromium, I'm using ubuntu 15.4, can anybody help ?
[10:06] <Ken86> videos doesn't work on FB on chromium, I'm using ubuntu 15.4, can anybody help ?
[10:07] <Ken86> youtube is working tho!
[10:12] <met413> hello
[10:15] <histo> !flash | Ken86
[10:15] <histo> Ken86: didn't chrom remove flash though?
[10:20] <Ken86> histo it is working as I told u on youtube, but not on FB videos
[10:25] <llutz>   Ken86 sure you aren't using html5 on youtube?
[10:25] <Ken86> llutz, not sure
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> Ken86  www.youtube.com/html5    <-- what does it say
[10:27] <Ken86> Many YouTube videos will play using HTML5 in supported browsers
[10:27] <Ken86> You can request that the HTML5 player be used if your browser doesn't use it by default
[10:28] <Ken86> but, it is already working on youtube, the problem is its not working on facebook
[10:30] <trijntje> (crosspost from #ubuntu-server) Hi all. I want to start using zfs on ubuntu. Can somebody point me to a good resource to get started? I have no experience with zfs
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> trijntje  260+ peaople in #zfs
[10:31] <MonkeyDust> people*
[10:31] <Ken86> flashplugin-installer is already installed, but it is still not working with facebook videos
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> Ken86  maybe a problem with facebook, then... not ubuntu related
[10:33] <Ken86> MonkeyDust  I guess not, coz instead of playing the video on FB, it says plz download flash player
[10:34] <_x0pal0x_> I'm wondering anyone here can help with a dbus problem with an app I'm trying to resurrect? WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown
[10:37] <Ken86> MonkeyDust when I play fb video it says "Flash Player upgrade required"
[10:38] <bekks> Ken86: You are using Firefox, do you?
[10:39] <Ken86> bekks not using it that much, right now I'm using chromium and its not working on it
[10:39] <bekks> Chromium? No clues about it, sorry. I am using Firefox and Chrome only.
[10:40] <Ken86> bekks chromium is google chrome for ubuntu! and btw the videos are working on firefox but not on chrome
[10:41] <bekks> Ken86: It ISNT. Chromium is a Chrome spinoff. It is not Chrome.
[10:41] <llutz> Ken86: check chrome for disabled flash-plugins
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> Ken86: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[10:41] <hateball> Ken86: for chromium you need pepperflash
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> hateball: +1 thats the one
[10:41] <hateball> Ken86: sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[10:42] <bekks> Ken86: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6253/whats-the-difference-between-google-chrome-and-or-chromium-what-are-the-advant - just for the detailed explanation.
[10:42] <Ken86> isn't chromium browser = chrome browser ?
[10:43] <bekks> No.
[10:43] <hateball> No, Chrome is Chromium + added unfree things
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> !info chromium-browser | Ken86
[10:44] <phiona> how to check if we have pepperflash installed?
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> phiona: by trying to install like hateball sugested
[10:45] <Ken86> thank you guys, I never knew there is a difference between chromium and chrome
[10:46] <phiona> thanks lotuspsychje
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> phiona: tnx to hateball
[10:49] <fidel_> phiona: i guess you could as well use: dpkg -l | grep SEARCHSTRING
[10:49] <fidel_> this should list aoo installed packages and search inside this list for your searchstring
[10:51] <phiona> thanks fidel
[10:52] <Ken86> I downloaded pepperflashplugin-nonfree, but its still not working
[10:52] <hateball> Ken86: did you restart chromium
[10:52] <Ken86> youtube videos works also on facebook, but not the fb videos!
[10:53] <hateball> Ken86: By default it does this nice thing of not killing its processes when you close it, and you need to close it fully to reload the plugins
[10:53] <bekks> Ken86: Then check the installed and activated addons in Chromium.
[10:54] <Ken86> ok I'll log off then to make sure every thing restarted
[11:11] <Osz> how do i connect to my ubuntu desktop remotely?
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | Osz
[11:13] <hateball> Osz: If you need a GUI you can use VNC
[11:13] <Osz> There is nothign such RDP ?
[11:13] <Osz> !rdp
[11:13] <histo> Osz: xrdp
[11:13] <bekks> hateball: VNC isnt secure. IT should only be used when tunneled through SSH.
[11:13] <histo> Osz: most people use ssh though int he linux world
[11:14] <histo> !info xrdp | Osz
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> bekks: +1
[11:15] <bekks> Osz: And RDP isnt secure too, it should only be used when tunneled through SSH, just as VNC. :)
[11:17] <Ken86> thanx everybody it worked :)
[11:17] <Ken86> just wanna ask about something else
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> Ken86: what fixxed your issue?
[11:17] <Ken86> how do I setup a file I downloaded, such as "Second_Life_3_7_29_301305_i686.tar.bz2"
[11:17] <Osz> Just installed xrdp when i tried to log in it said failed to load session
[11:18] <Ken86> lotuspsychje: the pepper thing
[11:19] <Ken86> "sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree" then restart chrome
[11:19] <jellow> !bz2 | Ken86
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> Ken86: ok tnx
[11:19] <bekks> Ken86: Follow the Second Life Installation instructions.
[11:19] <Ken86> lotuspsychje: welcome mate
[11:20] <histo> Osz: ahh aparently xrdp doesn't work with unity
[11:20] <Ken86> bekks: whenever I open the file there is some files inside dont know which one to use
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> Osz: what the purpose for taking over your desktop? what will you be doing exactly
[11:21] <howlymowly> hi everyone..   short question:  I am on kubuntu 14.04I don't know when this happened, but my Xorg server accumulates memory over time until my computer chrashes...  its about 2-3 MB/sec , any idea what is going on here?
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> howlymowly: wich grafix driver do you use?
[11:24] <hateball> howlymowly: try "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-notification-helper"
[11:24] <histo> howlymowly: which process?
[11:24] <howlymowly> lotuspsychje:   AMD fglrx + xserver-xorg-video-ati/radeon
[11:24] <hateball> howlymowly: Since it sounds like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-notification-helper/+bug/1434226
[11:25] <howlymowly> histo: it is Xorg
[11:25] <jellow> Ken86: second life is proprietary subsequently will have their own procedure, Look on their website for install instructions or community forums.
[11:26] <howlymowly> hateball: kubuntu notificaiton helper.. is it good for anything?
[11:26] <howlymowly> or:  whats does it exactly do...
[11:26] <hateball> howlymowly: I havent missed it yet
[11:26] <Ken86> jellow: thanks alot mate
[11:26] <histo> howlymowly: do you have swap?
[11:26] <howlymowly> histo: yes
[11:26] <histo> odd
[11:26] <hateball> howlymowly: apt-cache show kubuntu-notification-helper tells you what it does :)
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> howlymowly: try a realtime tail -f /var/log/syslog and tail -f /var/log/dmesg maybe some relevant errors come up
[11:27] <hateball> howlymowly: It may be something else in your case, it just sounded similar to the bug above (which I was affected by)
[11:31] <howlymowly> hateball:  are you on vivid?
[11:32] <howlymowly> --> because I am on kubuntu 14.04  guess that's not my error then (bug is related to 15.04) ...
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> howlymowly: check your logs to investigate mate
[11:33] <howlymowly> lotuspsychje:   doing it right now
[11:33] <howlymowly> I didn't find in the xyserver logs
[11:33] <howlymowly> with your command ...
[11:33] <howlymowly> well...  everything seems normal  no error message
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> howlymowly: ok try browsing them manually meanwhile
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> howlymowly: maybe some driver or xorg error show up
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> howlymowly: feel free to pastebin your logs, so we can have a look
[11:40] <howlymowly> lotuspsychje:   yepp  hold on ...
[11:40] <shambat> are there any good tools (preferably web based), where one can manage you own CA and keys via openssl?
[11:41] <howlymowly> lotuspsychje:   http://pastebin.com/DYvJr3QP  this is your command ...
[11:42] <Audioburn_busy> for installing ubuntu in virtualbox, should I be installing ubuntu desktop or ubuntu server?
[11:42] <howlymowly> I am lukcy I have 32 Gigs of RAM, so I can hold up for some hours before Xorg fills up too much ;)
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> !info ca-certificates | shambat is this useful
[11:42] <hateball> howlymowly: well it's related to Plasma 5 really, but I guess you've not added a PPA to run that on 14.04 ?
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> Audioburn_busy: whats your purpose exactly?
[11:44] <shambat> MonkeyDust: I am looking to setup my own CA
[11:44] <Audioburn_busy> lotuspsychje, a job i am about to interview for requires me to develop in linux
[11:44] <Audioburn_busy> I'm on a windows system
[11:44] <shambat> that is the name of a package containing common CA-certs right?
[11:44] <howlymowly> hateball: a year ago I added project neon.  But I do not use this.  Also, the bug message says it is related to kded and not Xorg as in my case
[11:45] <howlymowly> could that still be the reason?   let me remove all neon-related
[11:45] <shambat> Audioburn_busy: what will you be developing?
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> Audioburn_busy: you can install anything you want on virtualbox, desktop or server
[11:45] <Audioburn_busy> shambat, django applications
[11:46] <shambat> Audioburn_busy: what I do then is set up a Ubuntu server, use putty to SSH into the server and code in there using vim, and access the webpage from windows by using the guest-OS's IP address in the browser
[11:46] <hateball> howlymowly: tbh I dont remember the exact details, if usage of xorg grew or not. All I know is that it filled up really fast and then promptly froze the system. If you're in plasma4 it should be launching any plasma5 things but who knows. may as well remove neon since it is abandoned
[11:47] <Audioburn_busy> shambat, why not desktop?
[11:47] <Audioburn_busy> i dont like vim
[11:47] <shambat> well you can do that too, but I dont want all that cruft when I just need code management and an editor
[11:48] <shambat> thats too bad, you can use something like emacs or nano ... but I recommend you learn to love vim and its plugins
[11:48] <howlymowly> lotuspsychje: this is my Xorg log  http://pastebin.com/bRccYzbD
[11:48] <Audioburn_busy> it just looks ugly
[11:48] <Audioburn_busy> compared to sublime
[11:49] <shambat> Audioburn_busy: well ... you can customize the look of it to your hearts content
[11:49] <menace> Is there any tool, which handles luks-encrypted volumes with a GUI?
[11:49] <howlymowly> Audioburn_busy: kate is really nice ;)
[11:49] <howlymowly> i love that editor
[11:49] <shambat> yeah, dont get too held up on the editor, its a preference thing, the wrokflow I suggested still works
[11:50] <hateball> howlymowly: fglrx is spitting out a fair few errors. did you install it manually or using jockey?
[11:51] <Audioburn_busy> howlymowly, not bad
[11:51] <Audioburn_busy> new?
[11:51] <howlymowly> hate  pheww... has been a long time ago ;)   I guess manually?
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> howlymowly: yeah too much of those: 69.675] ukiOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> howlymowly: pastebin syslog too?
[11:52] <cofo> ss
[11:52] <cofo> help
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> !ask | cofo
[11:52] <howlymowly> hateball: , lotuspsychje  I think I did it manually via apt-get , bbut I did use the default packages from standard repositories and not something I compiled myself ...
[11:52] <cofo> 11:51 AM <cofo> i probably click install ubuntu but i cancel and don't know what changed
[11:52] <cofo> 11:52 AM <cofo> how do i check log or something can might help
[11:53] <cofo> im on livetest
[11:53] <hateball> howlymowly: yeah that's fine then, I was thinking if you did it from AMD's site
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> cofo: can you explain what your end goal is? what are you trying to do?
[11:53] <howlymowly> lotuspsychje:  http://pastebin.com/fpw3MZHk
[11:54] <howlymowly> Audioburn_busy: what do you mean with "new" ;)?
[11:54] <cofo> Anyone can help me please
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> howlymowly: a lot of acpi errors already: kernel  [    0.128771] [Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored
[11:55] <cofo> I'm in live test and in mistake i click install ubuntu and it say it might remove and I'm not sure.. How can I check?
[11:55] <hateball> howlymowly: still, something is making it misbehave. I guess you could try using xorg-edgers ppa to update the driver, see if that solves the problem... https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[11:55] <Indanoize> Hello guys. I'm trying to setup my new laptop with ubuntu 14.04.02 LTS and connect to other machine with SSH. But ssh hangs on after connection established. No key exchange, no remote version, server doesn't even know about connection. However I connect from my smartphone to that server and it works. I've played with MTU size, with ciphers lists. Now i'm out of ideas
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> howlymowly: kernel  [   21.071056] ACPI Warning: 0x0000000000000500-0x000000000000052f SystemIO conflicts with Region \_GPE.GPIO 2 (20131115/utaddress-251)
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> howlymowly: i would surely try bot nomodeset or no_acpi boot to see if that can change anything
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> cofo  do not continue the process, take out the install device and restart
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | howlymowly
[11:57] <cofo> MonkeyDust: I click quit..
[11:57] <cofo> But I don't know if something happen. That's the problem. How do i check?
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> cofo  restart the pc, if all's normal, you know nothing has happened
[11:58] <cofo> Anyone else?
[12:00] <cofo> Just you doesn't sound someone use ubuntu..
[12:01] <howlymowly> cofo: 'if' something happened  you won't damage something by rebooting
[12:01] <howlymowly> so..  MonkeyDust is right
[12:01] <cofo> Anyone else?
[12:02] <bazhang> cofo, any one else what
[12:02] <cofo> With answer
[12:02] <bazhang> cofo, what answer were you looking for
[12:02] <cofo> To check log or something
[12:03] <bazhang> cofo, what did you do to your install/PC
[12:03] <cofo> I click on install ubuntu and then click quit fast
[12:03] <cofo> Because I wanted to install package
[12:04] <bazhang> cofo, what version of ubuntu is this
[12:05] <cofo> 14.04 LTS
[12:05] <cofo> But how is this really matter?
[12:05] <bazhang> cofo, there is nothing so far from what you said that indicates any problem at all
[12:06] <shambat> cofo: what is your base system? windows?
[12:06] <cofo> yes
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> cofo  what are you afraid af? simply take out the usb or dvd and reboot
[12:06] <bazhang> cofo, so unless you can pastebin some errors, you encountered, there will not be any other answers forthcoming
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> of*
[12:07] <cofo> No..
[12:07] <bazhang> !pastebin | cofo
[12:07] <shambat> so, if something got overwritten or damaged, there is nothing you can do from the LiveCD to fix it, so there is no harm in rebooting into windows again. Besides, the instealler takes some time to get started and load resources into memory and doesn't just start overwriting files right away.
[12:07] <cofo> Do you know how do i check?
[12:07] <cofo> there is log so you say nothing writes their?
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> cofo  how many users do you want to tell you the same thing?
[12:08] <shambat> and if you founbd the log what could you do then?
[12:08] <bazhang> cofo you have not said anything to point to errors or otherwise, what is there to check
[12:08] <cofo> but is gui
[12:08] <cofo> omg..
[12:08] <cofo> shambat: check if there something that installed isn;t?
[12:09] <howlymowly> cofo  why not just try to reboot and if anything goes wrong come back here ;)?  but if you can still boot into windows   then there is no problem at all...
[12:09] <cofo> No thanks
[12:09] <cofo> ignore you too