[14:53] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[14:59] <charlie-tca> micahg: firefox 4.0b10 hates me. It won't let me report a bug using the "Help -> report a bug"
[15:01] <micahg> charlie-tca: hmm, what happens?
[15:01] <charlie-tca> nothing
[15:01] <charlie-tca> no error, no new tab, no nothing
[15:02] <micahg> does ubuntu-bug firefox still work?  Firefox is blacklisted from apport crashes, but you should still be able to report a bug
[15:03] <charlie-tca> I didn't try it. I was trying to report something broke in firefox itself. Now I can't even remember what it was
[16:57] <charlie-tca> QA Meeting in 2 minutes on #ubuntu-quality !
[16:57] <ochosi> charlie-tca: does that concern artwork as well?
[16:59] <charlie-tca> no
[16:59] <charlie-tca> just bugs and testing, usually
[17:01] <ochosi> mkay
[21:36] <Ryoichi> hello
[21:37] <Ryoichi> is there anyway to get the Xubuntu or Ubuntu source codes for learning how to build a operating system?
[21:50] <TheSheep> Ryoichi: all the sources are on launchpad, adaik
[21:50] <TheSheep> afaik
[21:51] <TheSheep> Ryoichi: but I doubt they will be very useful for you, considering the amount
[21:51] <Ryoichi> ok thanks
[21:52] <TheSheep> Ryoichi: the kernel alone is overl 13 million lines
[21:53] <TheSheep> whole ubuntu is probably something about 400 million lines of code


[00:33] <kapitan> hello
[00:34] <Unit193> Hello.
[00:34] <kapitan> i use ubuntu studio as my main laptop system :)
[00:34] <kapitan> very happy with it
[00:35] <kapitan> the only thing i could have it working
[00:35] <kapitan> is the cpu scaling
[00:35] <kapitan> on the low latency kernel
[00:35] <kapitan> is 13.04 going to support i7 platforms?
[00:36] <kapitan> *couldn't
[00:38] <Unit193> Why wouldn't it?
[00:39] <kapitan> because 12.04 doesn't :)
[00:39] <kapitan> my platform  at least
[00:39] <kapitan> x64 low latency 3.X...40
[00:40] <Unit193> Should be able to use the cpufrequtils for cpu scaling.
[00:42] <kapitan> basically cpufreq-info returns:
[00:42] <kapitan> no or unknown cpufreq driver is active on this CPU
[00:42] <kapitan> and i assumed there was a module missing
[00:43] <kapitan> and my system is missing the folder: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq
[00:53] <kapitan> my proc is i7-2670QM
[01:00] <Unit193> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+question/179771 found some old stuff that had issues as well, I don't have anything like that at all, so could only recommend nomodeset, and trying in #ubuntu
[01:03] <kapitan> yeah i was reading there
[01:03] <kapitan> too bad
[01:04] <kapitan> by they way ...your link is to another problem, fortunately not mine, mine is just that i don't have cpu scaling
[01:05] <Unit193> Yeah, just an example of more.
[01:06] <kapitan> oksss, thanks anyway, i'll ask there ;)
[01:07] <Unit193> Sorry.
[01:15] <kapitan> no problem man, i found some info...http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_power_20&num=1
[01:16] <kapitan> and here https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=150743&p=10
[01:30] <kapitan> last question then
[01:30] <kapitan> which kernel version on 13.04?
[01:31] <Unit193> 3.8
[01:31] <kapitan> ok cool, that might solve my problem
[01:33] <Unit193> Heh, all the ones I compiled after 3.8.2 were duds for me. :/
[01:33] <kapitan> duds?
[01:33] <Unit193> Not working for my computer.
[01:33] <kapitan> oh haahh, sorry my first language is not english :D
[01:35] <Unit193> Well mine is gibberish, so we're set.
[01:35] <kapitan> lol
[01:36] <kapitan> is raring for the repos?
[01:36] <Unit193> Raring has been released, yeah.
[01:37] <kapitan> ok i am going to add the repos just for the kernel for now
[01:39] <Unit193> Ehh.... That's generally not exactly recommended.
[01:39] <Unit193> Don't want to upgrade?
[01:40] <kapitan> my internet connection sucks here
[01:40] <kapitan> i'll do it
[01:40] <kapitan> just want to see if it works and switch back if now
[01:40] <kapitan> if not
[01:41] <kapitan> can't find the repos lol...how come man :)
[01:45] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux if you know how to recover from it....
[01:46] <kapitan> yeah i can just switch back with grub, it usually keeps the old ones...
[01:46] <kapitan> or maybe there is a ppa with just kernels somewhere...
[01:46] <kapitan> thank you for the link!
[01:48] <Unit193> Think xorg-edgers might?
[01:49] <kapitan> checking :d
[01:49]  * Unit193 out.
[13:33] <RenderedLife> hi .. i just read that 13.04 was just released   :-)    … then i read that if i have 12.10 (I do) that i should reinstall instead of upgrade   :-(      i spent literally months fighting with my system to get it running the latest version of Ardour 3 properly due to how messed up Pulse audio is … and now i have to do that all over again?
[13:39] <DarkEra> well, i have Ardour 3 running on my system since yesterday and while playing around a bit with it i didn't encounter any problem
[13:40] <smartboyhw> RenderedLife: You CAN upgrade.
[13:40] <DarkEra> you could try to install it on another partition and test it
[13:40] <smartboyhw> We just don't recommend it
[13:41] <DarkEra> upgrading can be done but can be risky
[13:49] <RenderedLife> yes .. and when i read that an upgrade is not recommended .. i usually put a lot of stock in that …
[13:51] <RenderedLife> Pulse audio just simply does not play nicely with Jack, and I didn't realize that when I first installed UbuntuStudio  .. if i'm going to need to reinstall a distro, i'd probably rather just switch to one that's more recommended by the Ardour devs ..
[13:51] <RenderedLife> i was so happy to finally get everything working ..
[13:51] <RenderedLife> and now there's a release of Ubuntu Studio that seems to address a few core issues .. but if i do an upgrade, i assume additional risk of things breaking ..
[13:54] <DarkEra> i still would go with a second partition and install 13.04 on it to try it and see how it works. Maybe you can copy the setup you got for Ardour 3 if it doesn't work out. I don't know if that's a option and works?
[14:17] <RenderedLife> DarkEra … that's not a road i want to go down … i spend months agonizing over creating a clean system that works … i have no interest in making new partitions and messing everything up … I know Ardour 3 will work .. i also know that it will require jumping through hoops to customize and to overcome the failing of Pulse Audio .. and that's work i've already done ..
[14:18] <smartboyhw_> Rendered: Reminder: We don't include Ardiur
[14:18] <smartboyhw_> 3 as default in 13.04
[14:19] <DarkEra> smartboyhw_,  i think he knows that because he has Ardour 3 installed on 12.10 from or a ppa or built from source
[14:19] <DarkEra> :)
[14:20] <DarkEra> there's not much to mess up by creating another partition but if one doesn't know how to do it the right way i can understand that
[14:21] <DarkEra> i'm not going to force it upon you RenderedLife it's your choice and you have to switch and set it up anyway once 12.10 isn't supported anymore :)
[14:26] <RenderedLife> DarkEra, smartboyhw .. yes, i have built Ardour from source, and then I paid for a subscription and installed the package which I got directly from the devs ..  there are known issues with distro versions, so i have always avoided that … and i know "how" to create a new partition .. my point is .. i'm working on creating a clean system .. i have no interest in creating multiple boots just to work around issues with a distro ..
[14:27] <DarkEra> i understand that
[17:25] <tuples_> I upgraded 12.10 to 13.04, I don't recommend it >.>
[17:25] <tuples_> the upgrade path, that is
[17:25] <tuples_> well, it broke for me anyways
[17:25] <tuples_> I had messed with pulse & jack to get a USB sound card working
[17:26] <tuples_> after the upgrade, pulse and jack no like each other
[17:26] <tuples_> I've pulled out all jack related configs, then wiped all user pulse configs to have pulse recreate them
[17:26] <tuples_> I now have sound, but pulse isn't going through jack
[17:27] <tuples_> so presently I'll need to kill pulse and start jack
[17:27] <tuples_> not the end of the world, but it took me quite a while to get to that point
[17:29] <tuples_> I'll have to reconfigure to make pulse a jack client but I'm in no hurry to tackle that :p
[18:23] <zequence> tuples_: jack and pulse work flawlessly on 13.04
[18:23] <zequence> tuples_: If using default configs
[18:24] <zequence> pulseaudio had a bug that was fixed in 3.0, which made jack not be able to grab the card from pulseaudio
[18:24] <zequence> I'm talking about the interaction now, not the audio servers by themselves. There will always be bugs of some kind
[18:25] <zequence> bug #1163638
[18:25] <zequence> Another bug, which caused jack to crash is fixed in all releases now
[18:32] <DarkEra> for me, now i'm working a bit more with it, 13.04 is the best release yet. The sound is smooth when using jack, ardour, zynaddsubfx etc. Awesome
[18:50] <tuples_> zequence: upgrading on day 2 of the release may not have been the wisest move :p
[18:50] <tuples_> I haven't started/tested jack yet (not that pulse is working)
[18:50] <tuples_> but I'm quite a bit more hopeful :)
[19:00] <zequence> tuples_: If you make your own custom configs, than from my point of view, I can't tell what is likely to work on your system or not
[19:01] <zequence> tuples_: Not much has happened since 13.04 was released. It's a stable release, and surely there are bugs, but not just by automation.
[19:01] <zequence> In fact, there has been very little changes to Ubuntu Studio the last month before it was released
[19:03] <zequence> tuples_: What is not working with pulse?
[19:22] <tuples_> pulse default sink set to jack.  Pulse threw errors about connecting to the jack server socket.
[19:22] <tuples_> default out, that is :)
[19:23] <tuples_> wiping user configs for pulse fixed it, or stopped it from routing to jack
[19:24] <tuples_> I'd had these configs for a long time though, so there may have been older, obsolete/changed pulse configs involved
[19:25] <tuples_> it struck me as odd though.  It worked perfectly before.
[19:27] <tuples_> where I became more confused was getting the usb soundcard to work with jack while routing output through pulse (so I could use laptop headphone jack since I seem to have lost all my stereo 1/16 -> 1/8 converter)
[19:28] <tuples_> and then running an OS upgrade within a week
[19:28] <tuples_> I touched lots of configs, then touched more configs
[19:29] <tuples_> I think it will either be fixed, or I'll have a better grasp on what's happening when I try to reconfig pulse as a jack client.
[19:31] <tuples_> I suppose I could have searched around for old /etc configs to make diffs and see if anything minor changed with pulse
[19:32] <zequence> There's no need for any configs beyond the default configs
[19:32] <zequence> Starting jackdbus will automatically start jack_sink and jack_source for pulseaudio
[19:33] <zequence> there may be problems if you have restarted jack a few times, this happens to me
[19:33] <zequence> ..as for the automation of jack_sink and _source
[19:33] <zequence> Those are created automatically by pulseaudio-module-jack, btw
[19:33] <zequence> Which is installed by default
[19:33] <tuples_> I've been using LADI so I do tend to restart jack
[19:35] <zequence> pulseaudio-module-jack is the jackdbus_detect module, included in the main pulseaudio source, but packaged separately
[19:38] <tuples_> sounds like I need to go back to basics, as far as configs :)
[19:38] <tuples_> the basics sound more sensible than they used to be
[19:39] <tuples_> for jack and for pulse :)
[19:39] <zequence> the jackdbus detect module is not thoroughly developed, so it might need some work. It's more like an example module
[19:39] <zequence> But, it works
[19:40] <zequence> Since 13.04, it will only create 2 channels for PA, no matter how many channels your jack device has
[19:40] <zequence> Most people only need a stereo connection. Also, each channel eats CPU
[19:41] <zequence> The channel config can be changed in /etc/pulse/default.pa
[19:41] <zequence> .ifexists module-jackdbus-detect.so
[19:41] <zequence> load-module module-jackdbus-detect channels=2
[19:42] <tuples_> cool, thx
[20:04] <nixnine> I need a keylogger for studio.  Any suggestions?
[21:00] <Inoki> Hi guys, any designers here?
[21:04] <zequence> Inoki: You mean, like graphic designer?
[21:05] <zequence> I'm sure there are some here who dabble. I'm more into audio myself
[21:05] <Inoki> zequence: hiya, yer, graphics.
[21:08] <Inoki> zequence: while we're at it, I wrote an article about Ubuntu Studio today :D
[21:08] <Inoki> zequence: might wanna check it out: http://live4p.com/index.php?site=news&id=335
[21:09] <zequence> Inoki: Nice article
[21:10] <Inoki> zequence: Thanks!


[23:08] <Eickmeyer> arraybolt3: New iso image, FYI.
[23:08] <Eickmeyer> ogra: Thanks for adding me to the slideshow team!
[23:52] <arraybolt3> Eickmeyer: Should be done installing by now :D
[23:52] <arraybolt3> I put my laptop in sleep before checking it though... but it seems to have finished already.
[23:54] <arraybolt3> Yeah looks like I killed it :-/
[23:54] <arraybolt3> OK, try 2.
[23:56] <arraybolt3> I did notice that it seems to take an excessively long time for Ubiquity to appear (in a VM with 8 GB RAM) but it does eventually appear.
[23:57] <arraybolt3> Huh, now it's reasonably fast. :shrug:


[00:00] <ActionParsnip> haha ace
[00:03] <uoaphys> actionParsnip: No i mean chrome, the google browser which uses webkit
[00:03] <uoaphys>  :)
[00:05] <uoaphys> comes out tomorrow.
[00:18] <Guest82699> im trying to put my mobile to the usb it should be read as flash drive put it didbt appear how to connect it and mount it
[00:18] <pepito> hola
[00:21] <Guest82699>  im trying to put my mobile to the usb it should be read as flash drive put it didbt appear how to connect it and mount it
[00:48] <hector2icarus> quit
[00:57] <igor> hello
[00:59] <internet_> hola
[00:59] <internet_> que ondon
[00:59] <internet_> ??
[00:59] <igor> hola
[01:00] <igor> que es esto???
[01:00] <internet_> de que trata este canal???
[01:00] <igor> ni se me parece unchat pero no se que seran esas personas que aparecen al lado
[01:01] <internet_> bueno enton`s yam voy
[01:02] <blizzz> *winking*
[01:02] <Dragnslcr> !es | internet_
[01:02] <igor> recien estoy conociendo la utilidad konversatios ni sabia que era un chat
[01:03] <Edulix> igor: si quieres hablar en español este canal es en inglés, haz caso al ubottu jeje
[01:22] <junior_> im new to kubuntu well linux
[01:22] <junior_> who in
[01:26] <scort> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/mail-filtering.html
[01:36] <DarkriftX> !info mtvg
[01:36] <DarkriftX> !xmltv
[01:36] <DarkriftX> damn
[01:36] <DarkriftX> finding a package name is sometimes a real pain in the ass
[01:37] <dr_willis> apt-cache search PATTERN | grep Pattern
[01:37] <dr_willis> :)
[01:38] <DarkriftX> hrmmmm
[01:38] <dr_willis> apt-cache search - tends to be a little verbose in its findings
[01:38] <DarkriftX> nice
[01:38] <DarkriftX> gonna have to make an alias out of that one
[01:40] <dr_willis> Linux FUNdamentals
[01:40] <dr_willis> :)
[01:40] <dr_willis> Theres also the apt-file tool that  can be handy
[01:40] <dr_willis> and proberly 1000+ other apt-things that ive never discovered yet
[01:41] <DarkriftX> in a .sh isnt %1 the first switch
[01:41] <DarkriftX> or is it $1
[01:41] <DarkriftX> ahh, $1
[01:42] <dr_willis> DOS memorys?
[01:42] <dr_willis> :)
[01:42] <DarkriftX> kinda
[01:58] <h2i> if i checkout http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/kicker/taskbar/taskbar.cpp?revision=604546&view=markup#1078  ...how do i upgrade my kde after that? update through svn?
[01:58] <h2i> oh, maybe.. yeah, that's a seperate program
[02:03] <DarkriftX> does anyone know of a tv guide program that doesnt require mythtv or a paid subscription to see programming data from the us?
[02:08] <Guest67240> whats the name of flash player for linux?
[02:08] <Guest67240> i want to search it on adept, but i dont know the name
[02:10] <GuiLLus> buenas
[02:12] <Dragnslcr> Guest67240- if you search for flash in Adept, you'll see the package for the flash plugin
[02:14] <Guest67240> i found one,, flashplugin-nonfree
[02:14] <Dragnslcr> That's the one
[02:20] <alistair> Help with Adept Manager needed
[02:22] <Guest67240> ok, i've got it installed
[02:22] <Guest67240> now what? do i restart ff3?
[02:23] <DarkriftX> yes
[02:52] <khaije1> whats the desktop effects channel?
[02:53] <khaije1> !compiz
[03:14] <DarkriftX> why can knetworkmanager only handle one connection at once?
[03:14] <DarkriftX> when i connect my ethernet, it kills my wifi, and vice versa
[03:15] <DarkriftX> why can knetworkmanager only handle one connection at once?
[03:15] <DarkriftX> when i connect my ethernet, it kills my wifi, and vice versa
[03:16] <Dragonbite> :)
[03:17] <Dragonbite> sounds pretty quiet here
[03:49] <joshuajtl> hi folks, having trouble mounting a cd that was burned on a vista pc
[03:58] <penguiniator> joshuajtl: this is a known bug... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/213696
[03:58] <ph0rensic> How do I add a network share in kubuntu...
[04:00] <ph0rensic> I went to remote places and sama shares .. and it is not detecting that network
[04:03] <gkffjcs> kmenu > system settings > sharing
[04:03] <gkffjcs> or something, it's in system settings for suer
[04:03] <gkffjcs> sure*
[04:34] <ismael_> hello?
[04:58] <ubuntu_> hello
[05:00] <mr---t-> !hi
[05:01] <rsingh> Does someone know how to trigger a script before a computer "thaws" or comes out of hibernate?
[05:18] <_2> rsingh isn't that like running a program before the os boots ?
[05:22] <jhgbkuhgvk> hey
[05:23] <_2> jhgbkuhgvk why did you ping me ?
[05:24] <jhgbkuhgvk> sorry
[05:24] <jhgbkuhgvk> i am new here
[05:24] <rsingh> _2 i figured it out
[05:24] <rsingh> you place a scrip tunder /etc/pm/sleep.d
[05:25] <rsingh> the command is thaw and hibernate which  you need to have a switch statement for
[05:25] <rsingh> the first argument to the script i mean
[05:26] <rsingh> thanks anyways guys
[05:26] <rsingh> bye bye
[05:31] <sysadmin> HI!
[05:32] <sysadmin> Hi everyone! Could someone tell me how to install drivers in Ubuntu hardy heron?
[05:33] <Daisuke_Ido> guess not
[05:34] <vikku> Hello all
[05:35] <MurielGodoi> off :hi guys... could you suggest me a good/cheap host server to my personal webpage?
[05:36] <vikku> i have a DSL image in /opt ... and when i ask to do this `qemu -boot c /dev/hdc/ /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso` , i get
[05:36] <vikku>  Boot from hard diks 0 failed
[05:36] <vikku> FATAL: not a bootable disk
[05:49] <_2> vikku dev/hdc is not a partition.   you might try a partition because  unless you have specifically made hdc bootable it wont contain a bootable MBR
[05:50] <_2> vikku if you meant to tell qemu that hdc == file.iso your syntax is wrong
[05:52] <_2> vikku ?
[05:53] <_2> vikku    " qemu -boot c -hda /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso "
[05:56] <noaXess> good morning
[06:06] <sting> hello guys, i want to remove the black screen with notices during booting, can you help me?
[06:07] <MidnightCommando> sting: when you boot
[06:07] <MidnightCommando> change the line so where it says 'quiet -- splash' or the like, it says nosplash --
[06:07] <sting> yup or during start up, i'm a new convert to linux
[06:08] <sting> where i can find the splash, no splash?
[06:08] <MidnightCommando> ... it's in the custom boot parameters
[06:08] <MidnightCommando> try F6 when you get the screen asking what you want to do :)
[06:09] <MidnightCommando> caveat emptor : i'm not an ubuntu native :P
[06:09] <sting> im new to this terminology, i dont know where i can find boot parameters i will try to hit the f6
[06:12] <_2> !usplash
[06:17] <sting> ok, thanks i will try your tips
[06:22] <noaXess> does anybody has upgraded to 3.5.10 from backports?
[06:24] <Evil_DuDe> noaXess: you mean Kde 3.5.10 ?
[06:24] <noaXess> yes
[06:25] <Evil_DuDe> nah, I still have old 7.04 Kubuntu
[06:26] <Evil_DuDe> I think i should upgrade soon
[06:27] <noaXess> Evil_DuDe: jep :) thats right..
[06:28] <noaXess> have upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04.. no problems
[06:29] <noaXess> 7.04
[06:29] <noaXess> hey Evil_DuDe here are the instructions :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[06:29] <noaXess> it works really fine
[06:30] <Evil_DuDe> yeah, thanks
[06:33] <Evil_DuDe> i think i'll do that prolly in couple of weeks because 7.04 supports is over in next month
[06:49] <vikku> _2: iam trying tosay it that the iso file is in /opt in /dev/hdc `qemu -boot c /dev/hdc/ /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso`
[06:51] <vikku> _2 : iam trying to say it that the iso file is in /opt in /dev/hdc `qemu -boot c /dev/hdc/ /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso`
[06:52] <vikku> _2 : Running this qemu -boot c -hdc /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso gives this error "Couldnt read from CDROM"
[06:52] <vikku> hdc is another non-bootalbe disk
[06:52] <vikku> in my destkop
[07:01] <_2> vikku repeting.    " qemu -boot c -hda /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso "
[07:02] <vikku> but  ... /opt is in hdc ....
[07:02] <_2> that's what man pages are for.
[07:02] <_2> no
[07:03] <_2> vikku if you are going to ignore me. i'll stop trying.
[07:03] <vikku> ok lemme try what you are saying ...
[07:05] <vikku> still getting he error : Boot from hard disk 0 failed
[07:06] <vikku> _2 : same err on ` qemu -boot c -hda /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso
[07:06] <_2> vikku ok then if you want to only munt the iso file inside qemu. then    " qemu -boot c -hda /dev/hdc -cdrom /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso "    i'm not sure exactly what you are trying to boot
[07:07] <_2> vikku repeting.    " qemu -boot c -cdrom /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso "
[07:07] <_2> that's what man pages are for.    i.e.   figure out what you want and look in the man page to see how to get it to do that.
[07:08] <_2> i still don't think you want /dev/hdc   anywhere in your syntax.
[07:09] <vikku> alright, i need to run DSL , whose iso image is in /opt (this dir is in non-bootable hard disk hdc), in qemu ...
[07:12] <_2> vikku what does the hard disk that the iso is on have to do with anything ?    it makes no differance where or what is mounted at/on   /opt     the path to the iso file is /opt correct ?      does  ls /opt/Dsl3   show you the file  dsl-3.4.11.iso  or not ?
[07:13] <vikku> yes it does ahow me that
[07:13] <vikku> show*
[07:13] <vikku> upon doin ls
[07:14] <_2> i'm sticking with this being what you want,  to the best of my understanding,    " qemu -boot c -cdrom /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso "  < that line should boot as a cdrom the file  dsl-3.4.11.iso  located in  /opt/Dsl3/     have you tested it ?   yes or no ?
[07:14] <vikku> ok qemu -boot c -cdrom /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso that worked
[07:14] <vikku> yes that worked
[07:14] <_2> ok. anything else ?
[07:15] <vikku> will prompt you here _2 ... thnkx much
[07:15] <_2> welcome.
[07:17] <_2> and let me say i'm sorry that i let your malformed string mislead me into thinking that was suposed to be an hd image rather than a cdrom image.   i would normally have assumed it to be cdrom image by the .iso  but you kept talking about hdc and i couldn't figure out why unless you meant the iso to be an hd image.    my mistake.
[07:20] <vikku> qemu -boot c -cdrom /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso ...........that cmd i thought was askg qemu o boot iso image from cdrom
[07:20] <_2> no it's telling qemu that the file is to be treated as a cdrom
[07:20] <vikku> qemu -boot c -cdrom /opt/Dsl3/dsl-3.4.11.iso ...........that cmd i thought was askg qemu to boot iso image from cdrom ....and i was time and again relating the fact that it should be hdc which contains the iso file
[07:21] <vikku> ok _2
[07:21] <vikku> gotcha
[07:22] <Dragon_Master> I need help with java and firefox 3
[07:23] <_2> Dragon_Master i'll call the bot for you but that's as far as i go with either of those.
[07:23] <_2> !java
[07:24] <Dragon_Master> xD
[07:30] <alistair> How do you find out which global hotkeys are assigned? I have gone System/Keyboard and Mouse, but the global hotkey I want to modify is not listed
[07:33] <noaXess> does anybody has upgraded to kde 3.5.10 from backports? any problems?
[07:34] <_2> alistair khotkeys
[07:35] <Wakei9_> UFKC YOU
[07:35] <Wakei9_> BITCH
[07:35] <Wakei9_> MF
[07:35] <Wakei9_> spammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspammspa
[07:36] <Dragon_Master> I need help with java and firefox 3 xD
[07:39] <Dragon_Master> I need help with java and firefox 3 xD
[07:42] <_2> Dragon_Master try #ubuntu
[07:43] <_2> Dragon_Master neither java nor ff are kde/kubuntu specific
[07:43] <Dragon_Master> I am trying it
[07:43] <Dragon_Master> xD
[07:43] <Dragon_Master> same result as here
[07:44] <Dragon_Master> -_-
[07:46] <Dragon_Master> this probelm I've had for weeks
[07:46] <Dragon_Master> xD
[07:48] <_2> sorry.  i don't like or use ff and have never liked java   the recent open sourcing of java hasn't had time to change my mind about it yet.
[07:48] <_2> and i can't support something i have purposly avoided.
[07:48] <Dragon_Master> xD
[07:48] <Dragon_Master> well I need IE or FF
[07:49] <Dragon_Master> nothing else
[07:49] <Dragon_Master> xD
[07:49] <Dragon_Master> and java I need for online games
[07:49] <Dragon_Master> -_-
[07:52]  * _2 has never considered a sentance with the words "need and games" to be serious enough to answer.   maybe it's just the way i was raised.
[07:55] <Dragon_Master> xD
[07:55] <Dragon_Master> I use it for other things too
[07:55] <Dragon_Master> xD
[08:05] <luis> hello
[08:29] <Fargh> Dragon_Master, try the new 'chrome' browser, from Google.
[08:30] <razinal> haloo
[10:18] <fritz> hi all
[10:19] <fritz> am here for questions boys.. paybak B^)
[10:23] <corigo> If I must dual boot with XP which format should I use? Any conflicts with NTFS?
[10:25] <fritz> no more conflict with NTFS today
[10:26] <jussi01> !ntfs | corigo
[10:28] <blunder> ok guys
[10:35] <karname> hello , i installed kde4 on ubuntu , but when i select kde4 for session and login i see kde splash but desktop and taskbar don't load !
[10:44] <KiDFlaSh> i added kde 4.1 on ubuntu, no problems here or?
[10:44] <KiDFlaSh> i works normal till now
[10:44] <KiDFlaSh> it
[10:45] <jussi01> KiDFlaSh: kde4 support is in #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[10:46] <KiDFlaSh> rofl
[11:17]  * dcrabs is away: Gone away for now.
[11:19] <ForgeAus> hmmm... this fglxr stuff is a little buggy and slow with my card... but I can't seem to go back to radeon :(
[11:29] <KingOfDos> knows anyone a screensaver that can be used within 'screen'?
[11:40] <compilerwriter> Gentlemen help.  I seem to have lost all functionality of my keyboard on my kubuntu box.
[11:41] <compilerwriter> This same keyboard is working through a kvm switch on a windows machine, and further the keyboard works when grub has me log in.  After that nada.
[11:45] <compilerwriter> anybody here?
[11:45]  * compilerwriter pulls hair out in frustration
[11:59] <compilerwriter> !compiz
[12:17] <corigo> Anyone know how/where I can get some help with K3b? I am having trouble burning the Ubuntu ISO to disk on my Lenovo T-61. Could it be a driver issue?
[12:20] <ForgeAus> argh who can help me with ati xorg.conf ?
[12:26] <ForgeAus> !pastebin
[12:31] <ForgeAus> will k3b burn a DVD iso of OSX Leopard?
[12:44] <tuxick> dudes, there's a problem with the site
[12:44] <tuxick> http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/index.php
[12:44] <tuxick> very bad
[12:47] <Pici> tuxick: I'm not sure who takes care of the kubuntu website, but you could log a bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website
[12:48] <jussi01> tuxick: yeah, not good. ping ryanakca
[12:48] <tuxick> done
[13:06] <router> hi,
[13:06] <router> some one that speak spanish, please?
[13:11] <Dragnslcr> !es | router
[13:12] <router> ok, gracias por la informacion
[13:12] <router> en todo caso me las arreglare en ingles, lo que pueda
[13:12] <starenka> hi, i got this mess., while trying to mount an ntfs share... mount to NFS server 'rpcbind' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered.. any clues? thx
[13:13] <router> can some one tell me how can i install a package of pando that i downloaded (it's for Ububtu)
[13:14] <starenka> router: double clink it?
[13:14] <starenka> router: *click
[13:14] <router> i have he package in .bz2
[13:14] <router> when I double click on it, ai have a list of files and folders in.
[13:15] <router> and all the files are in .so and others in .so0
[13:15] <starenka> following INSTALL file?
[13:15] <router> and only one in .png
[13:16] <starenka> or just unpack it and run/..
[13:16] <Jimmy1> Hey Guys.. Im just wondering if anyone knows how to chang my IP to a U.S server, reason y is because i wanna watch HULU (streaming tv) and its blocked unless your from there and me being from Australia its not working....
[13:16] <starenka> Jimmy1: use some free proxy
[13:16] <Jimmy1> how do i do that ?
[13:17] <starenka> your watching thru some program, or via browser?
[13:17] <Jimmy1> browser
[13:17] <starenka> f.e this page http://anonymizer.nntime.com/
[13:18] <starenka> or just hunt such pages with google by typing "free web proxy"
[13:19] <starenka> this used to be fine, http://www.kortaz.com/ , but i havent checked it for a while, tho
[13:20] <Jimmy1> Hmm this looks interesting
[13:20] <starenka> the other thing is that those proxies will be maybe to slow for watching videos...
[13:20] <Jimmy1> i never really knew that you can block and go into websites secretly
[13:20] <corigo> Anyone know how/where I can get some help with K3b? I am having trouble burning the Ubuntu ISO to disk on my Lenovo T-61. Could it be a driver issue?
[13:20] <Pici> !ot
[13:21] <starenka> sorry
[13:21] <Jimmy1> ok well ill give em a go and see how it goes
[13:21] <Jimmy1> cheers
[13:35] <bibstha> i have problem with time
[13:36] <bibstha> the bios time is set to
[13:36] <bibstha> GMT/UTC probably
[13:36] <bibstha> so, wheni boot up windows and when i boot up kubuntu the shown time is different
[13:36] <bibstha> hwo do i set the time in kubuntu to use bios time
[13:36] <bibstha> as my local time?
[13:37] <dr_willis> bibstha,  ive had similer issues on some machines...
[13:37] <Xbehave_> how can i access an lvm partiton from a livecd
[13:37] <bibstha> dr_willis: u have solution?
[13:37] <dr_willis> I think i set both to use  'GMT' but its not shown in the timezones.. it was one of the places in england.
[13:37] <dr_willis> OR UTC, or whatver ya call  that  time zone where they begin in england. :)
[13:38] <bibstha> dr_willis: where do i set it?
[13:38] <bibstha> :D
[13:38] <dr_willis> In the time/date settings thing ya get to from the clock I belive
[13:38] <bibstha> humm, i dont get it
[13:38] <dr_willis> i recall this being some sort of 'bios set to localtime, vs bios clock set to UTC' issue befor
[13:38] <bibstha> if i set the time to GMT then my time display will show GMT time wont it?
[13:38] <dr_willis> the kde clock applet has a menu to get to the set time zone I thought.
[13:39] <dr_willis> if not its in the menus/settings somwerhee
[13:39] <bibstha> um im in kde4,... lemme check
[13:39] <dr_willis> Or just set up a NTP client to update the time every time it boots.
[13:40] <bibstha> dr_willis: well the time is correct, it it shows correct UTC time
[13:40] <bibstha> what happens is
[13:40] <bibstha> the bios time is UTC, so kubuntu adds up the extra hours and displays my local time
[13:41] <bibstha> so setting up NTP wouldn't help would it? previously i remembered there was an option to set bios as local time... :(
[13:41] <bibstha> lemme ask in #ubuntu
[13:41] <dr_willis> set the kubuntu timezone to be UTC also then?  i always have to twiddle with the silly stuff..
[13:41] <bsuser> hi
[13:41] <bsuser> Hi all
[13:42] <bibstha> dr_willis: kubuntu set to UTC would display UTC time and not my local time :(
[13:42] <dr_willis> set the bios to be localtime then..   Ive seen it done both way I guess..
[13:43] <dr_willis> its really fun when the os's apply the daylight savings time  - several times in one day
[13:43] <dr_willis> :)
[13:43] <bibstha> dr_willis: lol it wouldn't work that way
[13:44] <dr_willis> bibstha,  ya just go to the bios menus at boot and set the time to be localtime
[13:44] <bibstha> coz then ubuntu will think the UTC time is bios time
[13:44] <dr_willis> I just set bios to be localtime, and let timezone be UTC which is '+0'
[13:44] <bibstha> dr_willis: no probs
[13:44] <dr_willis> Or course ive seen windows I think also set the bios time....
[13:44] <bibstha> i'll cofirm this in #ubuntu :) thanks anyways
[13:45] <bsuser> Hi ALL   what is the default password for root 'kubuntu' , but i dont have self installed password for root , a have dont access to root?
[13:45] <Pici> !sudo | bsuser
[13:45] <dr_willis> There is no root password
[13:46] <dr_willis> the first user  you set up during install has full 'sudo' rights. You use their password when you 'sudo command'
[13:46] <bsuser> okey Thanks ALL
[14:09] <grassone> hi
[14:11] <grassone> how i can come back from the package upgrade to the "original" packet for example of the kubuntu 7.10 ?
[14:13] <chairman> ccompiz desktop effects/
[14:14] <grassone> how  can i recognize the packet that were upgraded from the first installation ?
[14:20] <grassone> how can i recognize  the upgrade packet ?
[14:20] <grassone> how can i recognize  the upgrade packets ?
[14:20] <grassone> how can i recognize  the upgraded packets ?
[14:21] <grassone> sorry
[14:23] <RurouniJones> packages...and I haven't a clue
[14:23] <RurouniJones> Unless you can find a list online or use an existing installation to get all the version numbers
[14:23] <sorin_> #ubuntu-ro
[14:24] <grassone> RurouniJones: yes, packages
[14:25] <numberi> hello
[14:25] <numberi> When I use ktorrent with 2 downloads or more I can't open up webpages (Firefox). If I close the DL's so I have 1 or none DL's it works good.
[14:25] <numberi> Someone know what make this so slow ?
[14:26] <ghostcube> numberi: the ranges for youre bandwith are set to 100% for ktorrent ?
[14:26] <ghostcube> and the priority is to high
[14:26] <ghostcube> ?
[14:28] <numberi> yes
[14:28] <ghostcube> numberi: u can set this in ktorrent or ?
[14:28] <ghostcube> how much bandwih it takes
[14:30] <numberi> i don't want to make it slower because for internet speed is <500kb/s, for local nerwork 1-2mb/s
[14:31] <ghostcube> 62 kb max
[14:32] <ghostcube> whats max u can get in bandwith internet
[14:32] <numberi> it's max for one peer
[14:32] <ghostcube> so ktorrent gets max for all inet ?
[14:33] <ghostcube> how should firefox work faster then ?
[14:33] <ghostcube> u can set the max connections to more then 10 in ff and activate pipelining
[14:33] <ghostcube> :|
[14:35] <numberi> when i download 3 torrents, firefox or konqueror just don't connect to servers
[14:36] <ghostcube> numberi: shure too much connection
[14:36] <ghostcube> limitate the ktorrent connections
[14:36] <ghostcube> *-h
[14:38] <numberi> what numbers?
[14:38] <Rioting_pacifist> kwin doesnt start with my kde3 session, HELP
[14:39] <ghostcube> numberi: what is the number now ?
[14:39] <ghostcube> Rioting_pacifist: means what
[14:39] <vikku>  ok ... iam not able to do this , i have some basic question ....i have this img file in my host comp in my home dir, ......why/how would i partition it for the use by my guest OS..........
[14:40] <router> the file unwipped contains a list of files but no one of them can run.
[14:40] <router> i can't run pando unpacked in the folder.
[14:40] <Rioting_pacifist> when i start kde3 kwin simply doesnt start, i know what started this problem but have no idea how to make it start automatically
[14:40] <chairman> how can i get compiz fusion effects?
[14:40] <numberi> 300, in speedtest.net download: 7mb/s upload: 6,3mb/s
[14:40] <ghostcube> chairman: with compiz fusion ?
[14:41] <chairman> how/
[14:41] <ghostcube> numberi: 200   dl 1 MB up 500Kb
[14:41] <ghostcube> test this
[14:41] <chairman> where do i go ?
[14:41] <ghostcube> #compiz-fusion
[14:42] <chairman> ?
[14:42] <ghostcube> join this channel
[14:42] <ghostcube> here no cf support
[14:43] <chairman> there no cf support for Kubuntu?
[14:43] <ghostcube> chairman: whats the prob to join #compiz-fusion
[14:43] <ghostcube> go there
[14:43] <chairman> there no cf support for Kubuntu?
[14:44] <ghostcube> sure it is but not here in channel or ?
[14:44] <ghostcube> is thi compiz-fusion channel
[14:44] <ghostcube> ?
[14:44] <numberi> no, it doesn't work
[14:45] <Pici> !compiz
[14:46] <ghostcube> Pici: yes but wont work on most grafic cards so better directly to cf :)
[14:47] <Pici> ghostcube: It should work fine on nearly all accelerated graphics cards.
[14:47] <ghostcube> nope not by default you wont get this to run on an amd hd card
[14:48] <ghostcube> or an newer gf
[14:48] <ghostcube> without beeing in cf
[14:48] <ghostcube> :)
[14:49] <numberi> and nvidia cards, only after installing drivers
[14:49] <ghostcube> numberi: yep :)
[14:49] <elthor> ?
[14:50] <numberi> my screen was black and i saw only mouse:)
[14:50] <ghostcube> hehe
[14:50] <ghostcube> if u go with fglrx the fun starts
[14:51] <numberi> i change d for 350 and u 100. it works
[14:53] <numberi> but speed setup for different downloads doesn't work, it's bad
[14:53] <numberi> i have another 2 questions
[14:55] <numberi> when i start ktorrent with torrent file, error appears KDEInit could not launch '/usr/lib/kde4/bin/ktorrent'.
[14:56] <numberi> but it works
[15:10] <Rioting_pacifist> what config file tells kdm to launch kwin as a window manager?
[15:11] <Machtin> hey guys :)
[15:11] <Machtin> could someone help me to get lirc working?
[15:15] <denis> !de
[15:20] <blackboard> hey all
[15:21] <blackboard> I'm trying to burn a data disc in K3b, and it says it is successful, but when I put the disc back in it wont mount it
[15:27] <guest__> buenas
[15:27] <guest__> hay algien?
[15:28] <guest__> holaa
[15:28] <guest__> hay algien¿
[15:38] <jussi01> !es | guest__
[15:44] <Rioting_pacifist> still got my no kwin autolaunching turned sessions off and on with just kwin running, where is the config file that launches a window manager
[15:59] <fritz> when the bridge is created i can't even ping the modem ip.... says "Operation not permitted". which file's rights must be changed?
[16:02] <fritz> i created  network bridge
[16:02] <fritz> i gave the ip num on it
[16:02] <fritz> netmask
[16:02] <fritz> and routed the default gateway
[16:05] <denis> !de
[16:09] <zhobbs> when I add a menu item via "sudo kmenuedit" it won't stay on my menu, anyway around this?
[16:09] <jpds> !kdesudo | zhobbs
[16:12] <zhobbs> jpds: didn't make a difference in this case
[16:12] <zhobbs> but thanks, will use kdesudo
[16:17]  * MementoMori is away: Pero ora assente.
[16:17] <jussi01> !away > MementoMori
[16:23] <chairman> i need help w/the compiz fusion efect
[16:23] <chairman> effect
[16:25] <Denise> hello
[16:40] <router_> hi
[16:41] <elthor> i'm a starter in the matter of kubuntu ut i like it.
[16:42] <elthor> i have some bugs about packets installations that are been downloaded form internet.
[16:42] <elthor> i have downloaded Pando for kubuntu, the file  is sompressed an i have ucompressed it
[16:43] <elthor> but i can't run the application
[16:43] <elthor> once decompressed,
[16:43] <elthor> can someone helpe me, please?
[16:44] <jussi01> elthor: the original file, what was the extention?
[16:45] <elthor> jussi01: the original file was a .bz2 extention
[16:46] <Denise> never been able to make it run
[16:46] <Denise> newbir here
[16:53] <FernandoX> does anyone uses amule here?
[16:54] <jussi01> elthor: what is pando? can you link me?
[16:54] <jussi01> !anyone | FernandoX
[16:56] <FernandoX> haha
[16:56] <FernandoX> well, what information do I fill on the bootstrap section?
[16:57] <FernandoX> to make KAD network work, i've already forwarded the ports
[16:59] <elthor> jussi01: pando is a p2P software. i'm using it for download ad share.
[16:59] <jussi01> elthor: link me please?
[16:59] <pteague_work> anyway to figure out why "kded [kdeinit] --new-startup" is eating up 95-100% of 1 of my cpus?
[17:00] <elthor> jussi01: http://www.pando.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=11555#11555
[17:02] <jussi01> elthor: did you follow the instructions there? ie. install those packages?
[17:04] <elthor> yes, the instructtions below doesn't work.
[17:05] <jussi01> elthor: where did you run into problems?
[17:05] <elthor> the files listed below doesn't appear anywhere in the folder once uncompressed.
[17:07] <romo> nazdárek, funguje tu čeština?
[17:08] <romo>  nazdárek, funguje tu čeština?
[17:10] <romo> nojo já to věděl!
[17:12] <Maxa> is there a qdbus command or similar to hide menu bar from Konsole?
[17:17] <Maxa> there's "property read bool org.kde.konsole.KMainWindow.hasMenuBar
[17:17] <Maxa> but it just checks if there is a menubar i think
[17:22] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, is there a way to convert flv video to avi or other format through graphical interface in kubuntu?
[17:26] <YAOMTC> Would there be a way to make a text file open automatically in my editor without putting .txt after it?
[17:27] <YAOMTC> It has some different Unicode characters in there, so maybe that's why it's not automatic for this one.
[17:28] <YAOMTC> Would there be something I could put at the beginning of the file, like #!/bin/bash for a script?
[17:29] <aaron_> hello
[17:29] <aaron_> anybody in here
[17:29] <aaron_> ?
[17:29] <aaron_> i need some help
[17:30] <emile> Bonjour
[17:30] <emile> Il y a quelqu'un pouvant me help ?
[17:31] <aaron_> hurm
[17:31] <emile> ??
[17:31] <emile> J'ai un problème
[17:31] <emile> sous KUbuntu
[17:32] <emile> Je n'arrive pas à le mettre en français
[17:32] <emile> Please Help me
[17:32] <aaron_> i need some help too
[17:32] <Maxa> !ask
[17:32] <aaron_> alrite
[17:32] <aaron_> i only can connect to this server
[17:32] <emile> ??
[17:32] <aaron_> i cannot connect to webchat and dalnet, why?
[17:32] <aaron_> it works fine before this
[17:33] <emile> YA UN FRANCAIS ICI !!! ???
[17:34] <Maxa> !fr | emile
[17:35] <MidnightCommando> ... that should be changed from "uniquement" to "seulement"
[17:35] <Maxa> is "seulement" only and "uniquement" uniquely?
[17:38] <aaron_> hello
[17:41] <carib909> Trying to sync PPC 6 Sprint Mogul with Ubuntu 8.04 See http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/42742/ Please regarding errors I get on http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/42743/
[17:44] <argento> hello, Im having problems with konqueror and some flash animations
[17:44] <argento> I dont know what to do
[17:45] <Fargh> install firefox
[17:47] <argento> konqueror works better for me, it cant load some pages, and sometimes it closes without saying anything
[17:47] <argento> (firefox)
[17:48] <argento> ok nevermind
[17:53] <Denise> connection
[17:54] <Denise> always problems of connection
[17:56] <ghostcube> chairman: is it working ?
[17:56] <byteme_> hi all
[17:57] <byteme_> what do I do if my HP d2545 is not listed in the printer setup list?
[17:57] <byteme_> how do I get a driver for it
[18:00] <byteme_> hello?
[18:00] <byteme_> I guess help comes in the PM hours, eh?
[18:01] <byteme_> I'll try back then
[18:01] <jussi01> byteme_: 1 sec
[18:07] <jussi01> byteme_: according to http://hplip.sourceforge.net/models/deskjet/deskjet_d2500_series.html it is supported -the hplip stuff is under system iirc...
[18:15] <YAOMTC> Would there be a way to make a particular text file open automatically in my editor without putting .txt after it? (One file is behaving this way now.) It has some different Unicode characters in there, so maybe that's why it's not automatic for this one. Would there be something I could put at the beginning of the file, like #!/bin/bash for a script?
[18:34] <emeric> bonsoir
[18:37] <jussi01> !fr | emeric
[18:53] <kataklysm54> salutation
[18:53] <kataklysm54> ya kkn?
[18:53] <kataklysm54> besoin daide
[18:53] <kataklysm54> sil vous plait
[18:54] <kataklysm54> personne ne peut maider sur kubuntu?
[18:56] <tomatoo> hi all - running hardy kde4 and ripping my hair out because of my usb stick - scandinavian filenames between windows and kubuntu are all screwed up and the forums aren't helping - anyone have any ideas?
[18:57] <arkara> use utf8 on mountung
[18:57] <arkara> mounting
[18:58] <tomatoo> that's the thing arkara - i can't figure out where the mount settings are in kde4 - my fstab doesn't have anything, the stick mounts automatically...
[18:58] <arkara> w8 plx
[18:58] <tomatoo> ok
[19:00] <jouko> a tout le monde
[19:07] <arkara> hear me there?
[19:07] <arkara> tomato?
[19:07] <arkara> tomatoo
[19:07] <arkara> what file system does usb have? it have
[19:08] <arkara> try
[19:08] <arkara> mount -t vfat /dev/*** /mnt -utf8
[19:17] <scherfa> Hi i have some brocken dependencies after upgrading to kde3.5.10 (libldap2 -> libpq) so i could not install aniting new anymore ..
[19:17] <scherfa> Has anyone else these problems?
[19:18] <Assurbanipal> scherfa, i think sudo apt-get update -f fixes packages problems
[19:20] <scherfa> Assurbanipal: Not here i couldn't install anything here is the message :  libpq5: Hängt ab: libldap2 (>= 2.1.17-1) ist aber nicht installierbar
[19:21] <scherfa> The problem libldap2 has no packages anymore but libldap-2.4.2 is installed ... :(
[19:22] <Assurbanipal> scherfa, don't know mate....
[19:22] <scherfa> Shit
[19:22] <habob> hey, i can't seem to install ubuntu via cd, but i can boot in backtrack off of a USB key, so how i can i install kubuntu if i have the cd in the computer and booted into backtrack?
[19:29] <testi> If I don't have a torrent client installed and I click on a torrent client why doesn't the it propose to automatically "install a torrent client and open with"
[19:29] <testi> ääh
[19:30] <testi> If I don't have a torrent client installed and I click on a torrent link why doesn't the it propose to automatically "install a torrent client and open with"
[19:30] <testi> where torrent is just an example
[19:30] <testi> the same could apply for irc:// and no irc-client installed
[19:30] <testi> -the
[19:32] <carib909> Trying to sync PPC 6 Sprint Mogul with Ubuntu 8.04 See http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/42742/ Please regarding errors I get on http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/42743/
[19:33] <emik> hi all. good day.
[19:33] <carib909> hey emik
[19:33] <emik> i am just install kubuntu 6
[19:34] <emik> dear carib, could you help me to setup my pc as testing server for php mysql
[19:39] <paolo__> ciao
[19:39] <paolo> ci siete?
[19:41] <emik> which one is better for testing server on localhost LAMP and KAMP  ?
[19:41] <stdin> carib909: try installing libnotify-bin
[19:41] <paolo> non ci capisco nulla
[19:41] <paolo> qualcuno parla italiano?
[19:41] <stdin> !it
[19:42] <paolo> grazie
[19:46] <unclean> how can you tell f you have Hardy?
[19:47] <stdin> !version
[19:47] <unclean> thnx
[19:53] <carib909> stdin what will linotify do?
[19:53] <carib909> libnotify i meant
[19:54] <stdin> carib909: it's a library that sends desktop notifications to a notification daemon, basically will let an application send notifications to you
[19:54] <stdin> and that app you installed seems to need it
[19:55] <carib909> Is that related to the errors I am getting?
[19:55] <carib909> ok What command should I use to install that?
[19:55] <stdin> either use Adept or apt-get
[19:55] <carib909> thanks
[19:55] <stdin> probably quicker to do "sudo apt-get install libnotify-bin"
[19:57] <emik> E: Couldn't find package libnotify-bin
[19:57] <stdin> it's in universe, so you probably need to enable that
[19:58] <carib909> Same errors after install
[19:59] <stdin> carib909: ahh, it needs notification-daemon too
[20:02] <ubuntu> hola
[20:02] <ubuntu> hay alguine??
[20:03] <stdin> !ar
[20:03] <ubuntu> haa,,,hello
[20:04] <daaf> l
[20:04] <daaf> hola
[20:04] <stdin> daaf: /join #ubuntu-ar
[20:04] <daaf> q onda stdin??? q no puedo hablar aqui??
[20:05] <stdin> daaf: English only here
[20:06] <daaf> haaa.... it ok
[20:06] <jpds> !es | daaf
[20:07] <mr---t-> stdin: do you know much about konversation?
[20:07] <stdin> mr---t-: a bit, what do you want to know?
[20:08] <mr---t-> jucato gave me some intructions on how to get double spacing  but it's not consistant
[20:09] <mr---t-> I have the new rcl version
[20:09] <stdin> double spacing in what?
[20:09] <mcm> Hi, I've installed Flash but a flash video won't open. Is there a codac that I need to install also?
[20:10] <mr---t-> the display window
[20:10] <carib909> stdin how do I get notification module?
[20:10] <stdin> mr---t-: I've never tried to do it, so can't help. but you know there is #konversation
[20:11] <carib909> notification daemon...?
[20:11] <stdin> carib909: make sure you have libnotify-bin and notification-daemon installed
[20:11] <carib909> ok thnks
[20:11] <mr---t-> mr---t-: you need to include these lines under the [Appearance] group of your konversationrc file: "UseParagraphSpacing=true" and "ParagraphSpacing=20" (without the quotes. you'll have to experiment with the paragraphs spacing value)
[20:12] <mr---t-> when people delay slightly I get great spacing @40 but the quicker they speak the closer the lines get together
[20:14] <mr---t-> I'm fairly new to kubuntu and this was my first binary compile and modification of a program
[20:14] <stdin> you'd get better luck in #konversation, I don't know the config values
[20:14] <mr---t-> ok thanks any way
[20:15] <carib909> stdin still errors at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/42803/
[20:17] <stdin> carib909: you may need to edit some configuration, but that's an issue with that app now
[20:17] <carib909> whoops! not sure what app or how to edit configuration...any ideas?
[20:18] <stdin> well, the app is synce-pls, and I've never used it so have no clue about what configuration
[20:18] <carib909> aight; Thnks for trying...
[20:24] <Jasmin_> join #ubuntu
[20:24] <Jasmin_> dhq__, hi
[20:25] <Jasmin_> dhq__, how r u
[20:25] <Jasmin_> dhq__, i need ur help super user
[20:28] <Jasmin_> hello anybody help me out plz
[20:29] <Jasmin_> http://www.airtel.in/wps/wcm/connect/airtel.in/Airtel.In/Home/ForYou/Wireless+Internet/USB+Modem/
[20:29] <Jasmin_> how do i configure this modem in kubuntu
[20:32] <Jasmin_> hello anyone knows that
[20:44] <YAOMTC> One more time: Would there be a way to make a particular text file open automatically in my editor without putting .txt after it? (One file is behaving this way now.) It has some different Unicode characters in there, so maybe that's why it's not automatic for this one. Would there be something I could put at the beginning of the file, like #!/bin/bash for a script?
[20:45] <Jasmin_> YAOMTC, hi
[20:45] <Jasmin_> YAOMTC, can u help me out
[20:45] <YAOMTC> Maybe? I'm not incredibly experienced, but what's your problem?
[20:45] <eypone> hey eny of you tride to install at DVB-c tuner?
[20:46] <Jasmin_> YAOMTC, http://www.airtel.in/wps/wcm/connect/airtel.in/Airtel.In/Home/ForYou/Wireless+Internet/USB+Modem/Know+More/Documentation+Required/
[20:46] <Jasmin_> YAOMTC, i hav this modem n how do i configure in kubuntu
[20:47] <YAOMTC> Sorry, I can't help you there, I don't know much about modems. I had a "DSL gateway" and when I'd plug in the ethernet, it'd work automatically, so... no experience with configuring for a modem.\
[20:48] <Jasmin_> YAOMTC, ok thanks 4 ur reply
[20:50] <YAOMTC> No prob
[20:52] <eypone> eny one how can help me whith DVB-c tuner?
[21:00] <veritas_> will kubuntu be supporting Google chrome? =P
[21:14] <Ratchet4620> hey guys i need help on how to do the following "To install the latest stable release (SqueezeCenter 7.2) update your /etc/apt/sources.list to include:"
[21:14] <Ratchet4620> deb http://debian.slimdevices.com stable main
[21:15] <engineer> ok
[21:15] <starenka> you can add repositories in adept more easily....
[21:15] <engineer> sudo aptitude install software-sources-kde
[21:16] <engineer> sudo aptitude install software-sources-gtk
[21:16] <engineer> add that line using the new program
[21:16] <Ratchet4620> k
[21:16] <engineer> or
[21:16] <engineer> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:16] <engineer> scroll to the bottom
[21:16] <engineer> add that line
[21:16] <engineer> sudo aptitude update
[21:28] <engineer> any german here?
[21:28] <jpds> !de
[21:36] <Denise> engineer
[21:37] <Denise> new one technical
[21:37] <engineer> ?
[21:37] <Denise> or same one
[21:38] <Denise> alibaba
[21:38] <Denise> computers
[21:38] <engineer> ok shoot
[21:38] <Denise> It engineer
[21:39] <Denise> new formation
[21:39] <Denise> yes
[21:39] <Denise> I totally agree
[21:39] <engineer> what the heck are you talking about
[21:42] <Denise> shoot and count
[21:42] <engineer> new one technical what?
[21:44] <jaramillo_> What app should I use to grab webcam img's?
[21:45] <Agent_bob> !webcam
[21:46] <jaramillo_> haha, cool, grat
[21:55] <ForgeAus> how do I get sunjava to plug into konqui?
[22:07] <chrziz> I'm having trouble getting my broadcom 43 wireless drivers to work, I downloaded them and installed with ndiswrapper yet they still dont work
[22:08] <chrziz> Anyone have any suggestions?
[22:09] <HighHo> chrziz: does ndiswrapper see the device?
[22:10] <chrziz> I'm not sure, how would I check?
[22:10] <chrziz> k>System>Hardware Drivers Manager sees it
[22:11] <chrziz> I'm new to linux as you can see
[22:11] <HighHo> !wireless | chrziz:
[22:12] <chrziz> Thanks, I'll check it out
[22:12] <HighHo> have a look there first if you havent, you will find some information on ndiswrapper
[22:12] <chrziz> Thanks, I appreciate it
[22:12] <engineer> damn
[22:12] <engineer> Jerry Reed died
[22:27] <_Angelus_> somebody knows if the next kubuntu releas will be kde4 or kde3  or both?
[22:30] <mixed1234> I am unable to record anything uisng alsa or sound recorder, can someone pls help!
[22:31] <mixed1234> sorry, meant to say audacity or sound recorder
[22:36] <Maxa> have you tried selecting the right input source from kmixer
[22:37] <mixed1234> Maxa yes I have tried all the ones I can think of
[22:37] <mixed1234> Maxa, I am using my system board's mic, it was working fine a few days ago
[22:38] <mixed1234> I can hear myself speak into the mic however I cannot record myself with either audacity or sound recorder
[22:38] <catfacts> hi im doing a how-to article about irc clients and as a gnome user dont know much about a basic kde install, what is the best/preinstalled/common/etc irc client for kde people?
[22:39] <Maxa> if it has worked before.. then im not sure if i can help
[22:39] <Maxa> i just know you have to select right sources from both audacity and kmixer
[22:40] <mixed1234> oh ok i already tried that i am still unable to record, thanks for the help anyway, im gogn to see if i can do it using ubuntu
[22:40] <Maxa> i've used KVIrc a lot
[22:40] <PhilRod> catfacts: konversation is probably what you're after. You might want to look at ksirc too, although its main advantage is that it's scriptable
[22:40] <catfacts> PhilRod: ill go with konversation then im just writing a base how to no need for fancy stuffs thanks
[22:40] <ForgeAus> kvirc is good
[22:41] <ForgeAus> konvi is a quick and dirty irc client, works for the basics...
[22:41] <Maxa> if it wasnt for screen+irssi combination, i would use kvirc
[22:41] <ForgeAus> lol konsole to a screen session and run irssi?
[22:42] <catfacts> ForgeAus: irssi is my irc of choice but im aiming this at a gui
[22:42] <Maxa> yes
[22:42] <Maxa> konsole is quite good, full screen and menubar off :)
[22:43] <ForgeAus> why don't you just use a tty?
[22:43] <Maxa> dunno
[22:43] <ForgeAus> or do you like tabs?
[22:43] <Maxa> no exactly, i use compiz so i just switch desktops
[22:44] <Maxa> i guess i could use tab for a bitlbee session or something, my screen is on a shell
[22:56] <devo>  how do i have the num lock light come on for when i start up?
[22:57] <catfacts> one more question is konversation installed by default on kde
[22:57] <catfacts> er well on Kubuntu at least
[22:58] <catfacts> if yes what is the menu path to it
[22:59] <devo>  can anyone tell me how to have to num lock light come one when i start up my computer???
[23:00] <devo>  wtf is this, i am ask'n for help & no one will help me WTF!!!
[23:01] <SSJ_GZ> lol
[23:05] <scott_w> how do i set KDE's default session?
[23:08] <scott_w> or set a manually saved session even?
[23:08] <HighHo> scott_w: From what i remember when logging in from KDM if you use a diffrent session from your last one it will ask you if you want to use it.
[23:09] <scott_w> my apologies, i didnt' clarify
[23:09] <scott_w> i mean, when you have the applications to load when you start KDE
[23:09] <scott_w> how do i set those to automatically load?
[23:10] <scott_w> oh, never mind i've found it
[23:10] <scott_w> it was in the menu
[23:10] <scott_w> d'oh
[23:10] <HighHo> scott_w: been using KDE4 for a while, but if i remember as long as you log off it will ask you if you want to save your session
[23:10] <scott_w> lol thanks ;)
[23:12] <neWbie> anyone uses kopete?
[23:13] <sontgun> hi, anyone could work chrome under wine?
[23:29] <sontgun> anyone work google chrome with wine?
[23:31] <ForgeAus> lol good question :)
[23:32] <sontgun> anyone?
[23:34] <sontgun> nobody could work google chrome w/ wine?
[23:36] <drkguy> HI!!!
[23:36] <sontgun> really? nobody?
[23:37] <Drk_Guy> :p
[23:37]  * Drk_Guy clears throat
[23:37] <Drk_Guy> Now, Hi!
[23:38] <Drk_Guy> !ask sontgun
[23:38] <Drk_Guy> !ask | sontgun
[23:41] <sontgun> i say a 1000 times (jaja) if someone coul work GOOGLE CHROME with WINE!
[23:52] <veritas_> ooh chrome's linux sauce has been released, anyone build it?
[23:52] <sontgun> please i asked 100 times!! anyone could work Chrome?
[23:54] <dr_willis> I havent the slightest idea what you mean by 'chrome'
[23:54] <sontgun> google chrome!!!
[23:54] <sontgun> the browser!
[23:54] <sontgun> come on!
[23:55] <dr_willis> Not heard of it.
[23:55] <veritas_> http://dev.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/build-instructions-linux
[23:55] <dr_willis> sounds like a not very well named projects.
[23:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[23:58] <BluesKaj> i don't think Chrome is available yet. Seems google is holding back due to that silly cartoon offering


[17:05] <juergh> ChmEarl, editconfig cycles through all defined flavors
[17:16] <ChmEarl> juergh, I made a profile, like debian.master to create a 2nd flavour
[17:16] <ChmEarl> then each profile has only one flavour
[17:17] <ChmEarl>  d.master has generic d.next has virtual
[17:18] <ChmEarl> yesterday I built 6.6.0-14-generic for noble without UBSAN
[17:19] <ChmEarl> I have that kernel booting Xen (4.18.0)
[17:19] <ChmEarl> I get no UBSAN errors in dom0 or domU
[19:19] <ahasenack> xnox: hi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/2040181 seems ready to go (mantic-proposed), but there is also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zfs-linux/+bug/2044657 in mantic unapproved
[19:19] -ubottu:#ubuntu-kernel- Launchpad bug 2040181 in zfs-linux (Ubuntu Mantic) "upgrade zfs-linux to 2.2.0 final" [Undecided, Fix Committed]
[19:19] -ubottu:#ubuntu-kernel- Launchpad bug 2044657 in zfs-linux (Ubuntu Mantic) "Multiple data corruption issues in zfs" [High, In Progress]
[19:19] <ahasenack> different bug numbers, but same kind of problem looks like
[19:20] <ahasenack> should the one in mantic-proposed still be released, or is it better to accept the one from unapproved? In which case, it needs a reupload with a proper -v flag to include both uploads
[22:33] <ChmEarl> when I first heard of debian.master/config/annotations, that file seemed untouchable, not meant for edits
[22:34] <ChmEarl> but now the header is game for edits


[13:33] <shadeslayer> hi id like to know if there's anything planned to fix the nvidia drivers being in compatible with xorg 1.9
[13:33] <shadeslayer> a proper fix... instead of disabling the ABI
[13:41] <kklimonda> shadeslayer: it's fixed in nvidia-current already
[13:42] <shadeslayer> kklimonda: in the archives?
[13:42] <shadeslayer> which package version please
[13:42] <kklimonda> 256.53-0ubuntu1
[13:42] <shadeslayer> ( im asking because ive disabled the ABI atm and wondering if i should enable it back )
[13:43] <shadeslayer> ok i have that one... then i should probably enable it
[13:44] <shadeslayer> ok lets see if this works, brb in a bit
[13:50] <shadeslayer> kklimonda: thanks for the info.. works :D
[13:50] <shadeslayer> thanks all :)
[15:03] <zniavre_> good afternoon
[15:04] <zniavre_> sorry to ask but.... are you working on nvidia 173.14.2x driver to make it usable with the new xserver ?
[15:20] <gord> zniavre_, its a closed source driver, you would have to ask nvidia
[16:08] <Sarvatt|gone> zniavre_: I recommend using nouveau and installing libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental in the meantime to get 3D support, but yeah there's nothing we can do because it's all up to nvidia to do it
[16:13] <zniavre_> gord, Sarvatt  thank you answering
[16:18] <zniavre_> i hope they will do it as soon as possible
[16:23] <zniavre_> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2302956    maybe more than soon ...  :o(
[16:42] <bjsnider> zniavre_, if the 173 is going to be updated it usually happens just before a new ubuntu release
[17:50] <zniavre_> bjsnider,  ok thank you
[18:30] <Milos_SD> Hi
[18:31] <Milos_SD> I enabled xorg-edgers ppa on Maverick. And now with nvidia drivers, compiz bugs a lot. It can not be used at all
[19:04] <bjsnider> Milos_SD, why would you use xorg-edgers in maverick, when maverick is already bleeding-edge?
[19:53] <Milos_SD> bjsnider, I wanted to have xserver 1.9
[19:53] <Milos_SD> but Maverick in my case doesn't have it
[19:53] <Milos_SD> I upgraded from Lucid
[19:53] <bjsnider> maverick does have it
[19:54] <Milos_SD> well, my upgraded install don't have it
[19:54] <Milos_SD> Maybe there was a problem becouse I upgraded with lucid xorg-edgers packages still installed
[19:54] <Milos_SD> other 3D works great
[19:55] <bjsnider> possibly
[19:55] <Milos_SD> only compiz have some issues


[19:09] <infinity> stgraber: Your tests pass!
[19:09] <infinity> stgraber: It's a miracle!
[19:09] <stgraber> :)
[19:09]  * infinity lets lxc in.
[19:16] <infinity> And swift tests passing again.  Yay.
[20:20] <infinity> cyphermox: Planning to upload that gub2 fix to Debian as well (or get Colin to do so)?
[20:20] <infinity> s/gub/grub/
[20:21] <cyphermox> yes, I've already pinged colin with a git branch for debian
[20:21] <infinity> cyphermox: Kay, well if the plan is to get it in Debian, not much point in the Ubuntu upload, we can just sync.
[20:21] <cyphermox> infinity: it would be nice to get it earlier, rather than later
[20:23] <infinity> Mmkay.  Just remember to syncpackage -f after it's in Debian too.
[20:23] <cyphermox> yes, I know :)


[15:24] <solarcloud_3scrn> morning, or afternoonings/ers as I've just woke -up.
[15:25] <ebel> ello
[15:26] <solarcloud_3scrn> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/ frigg. all on there !!!


[08:47] <sweb> how to add some extra config into maas-proxy.conf (squid) file?
[08:47] <sweb> it's auto generated and seems after restart maas all configuration will be lost
[23:02] <AceSlash> hello, is there a known issue on libc6 on ubuntu 20.04? I have the following error when I try to install libc6-dev: https://apaste.info/Jvbc
[23:04] <patdk-lap> ah yes
[23:04] <patdk-lap> your one of the happy people that upgraded and then ubuntu deleted the package
[23:05] <patdk-lap> you need to downgrade libc6-dev to 9.2 instead of 9.3
[23:05] <patdk-lap> 9.3 had a bug and they just killed that version off and didn't replace it, so anyone that installed 9.3 has to manually fix their system
[23:06] <AceSlash> ok, done that with "apt install libc6=2.31-0ubuntu9.2", thanks
[23:06] <patdk-lap> yep
[23:06] <patdk-lap> something like that
[23:09] <AceSlash> found the issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1926918
[23:11] <patdk-lap> yep
[23:11] <patdk-lap> I was searching but couldn't turn it up
[23:13] <patdk-lap> I didn't have any of the problems others listed downgrading


[08:21] <calc> jcastro: it appears lenovo wasn't intending to sale thinkpads without an OS they fixed their site today, it wasn't selectable when it was displayed though
[08:22] <calc> jcastro: too bad it was claiming to let you reduce the price by ~ $150
[08:38]  * calc is trying to decide whether the $280 3yr warranty would be useful
[14:16] <huats> hello seb128
[14:16] <seb128> lut huats
[14:16] <huats> thanks for you words on the application :)
[14:16] <huats> (I just received the notification)
[14:17] <seb128> huats: you're welcome
[14:36] <rickspencer3> pitti: seb128: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionReportProtobuf?highlight=(protocol)|(buffer)
[15:35] <fta> seb128, fyi, I just filed my bug about gvfs and davs. gnome bug 570659.
[15:36] <seb128> ok
[16:21] <didrocks> seb128: congrats for you karting skills ;)
[16:21] <seb128> I feel I'm lagging on planet reading or something ;-)
[16:22] <didrocks> it's hard to keep up-to-date, yeah ;)
[16:22] <didrocks> and you're right :p
[17:02] <Unggnu> sers
[17:02] <Unggnu> Mal Ot, weiß jemand, wie man sich bei Rotten Tomatoes das Budget anzeigen lassen kann? Das ging früher.
[17:02] <Unggnu> :-D
[18:32] <maxb> I'm attempting to dual-boot Jaunty and Intrepid whilst sharing a /home - Intrepid's gnome-terminal seems to dislike this, and insists on being zero characters wide. Any thoughts?
[20:03] <maxb> Argh
[20:03] <maxb> Seems the problem was that in Intrepid, the gconf dpi setting is a float, but in Jaunty it's an int
[20:05] <walters> generally it's considered a bug to incompatibly change gconf keys


[08:48] <kaisoz> Hi there
[09:54] <NeKit> is it possible to load Ubuntu Touch for tablets in emulator?
[10:04] <Tempuserid> Recomendations for a decent irc client for Ubuntu touch? The web client and the m10 browser don't play nicely if you switch away
[10:59] <swalladge> Tempuse have you tried an irc app? (I had xchat or something similar installed out of the box)
[11:00] <swalladge> Haven't actually tried it yet though - i tested sshing into a server with weechat running in a tmux session which worked ok, but same prablom with internet cutting as soon as switched away
[11:01] <swalladge> (Although it kept the connection while in desktop mode whirhwas pretty cool) i hope they add settings to enable that in tablet/phone mode as well
[11:13] <renee77> hi is there a way to install g++ on tablet?
[11:14] <renee77> and vim only vi is availleble
[11:16] <renee77> someone here?
[11:35] <renee77> someone not enjoying sun here?
[11:37] <renee77> I really would like some help, I am on ubuntu tablet. I know I can use sudo, but I wont receive updates then. And I was wondering it should be possible to use vim and gcc/g++ without loosing updates?
[11:38] <renee77> By the way sdcard is only been seen in desktop mode
[12:02] <brunch875> I don't think you'll lose updates. At least it didn't happen to me when I started apt-getting stuff
[13:53] <brunch875> Man, thunderbird is a pretty great IM client. No wonder why empathy is gone now.
[13:53] <brunch875> I wonder if we'll get this on utouch
[13:53] <brunch875> cause I really like dekko :|
[13:53] <Acou_Bass> empathy is gone? since when
[13:53] <brunch875> It's not installed by default anymore
[13:54] <Acou_Bass> aww lame, i liked it hehe
[13:54] <brunch875> I like the online-accounts setup
[13:54] <brunch875> set stuff system-wide instead of on each application
[13:54] <Acou_Bass> i do hope ubuntu touch gets a good IM app
[13:54] <Acou_Bass> thats one thing i loved about sailfishOS, the messaging app supported so many protocols all right there in one app
[13:54] <brunch875> Yeah!
[13:55] <brunch875> I'd rather have some sort of empathy in ubuntu too
[13:55] <brunch875> have telegram in there
[13:55] <Acou_Bass> the telegram app/scope is great
[13:55] <Acou_Bass> trouble is, i dont use telegram and no one i know does either XD
[13:56] <brunch875> huhu! I use telegram a lot
[13:56] <brunch875> strongly dislike whatsapp
[13:56] <Acou_Bass> i dont know anyone who uses whatsapp either
[13:56] <Acou_Bass> all my friends use FB chat
[13:56] <brunch875> Interesting...
[13:56] <brunch875> I hate fb chat since they closed down the apis
[13:57] <brunch875> I'd much rather have everyone using gtalk
[13:57] <Acou_Bass> weirdly, the new API is actually better for 3rd-party clients, it supports history/group chats far better than the old xmpp one
[13:57] <brunch875> there's a new api?
[13:57] <Acou_Bass> yeah, pidgin supports it as do a few others
[13:57] <brunch875> ... :o
[13:57] <brunch875> I'm surprised!
[13:57] <brunch875> Thunderbird is lagging behind, then!
[13:57] <brunch875> No support for new facebook API
[13:57] <Acou_Bass> as i said its not XMPP, but it supports the group chats far better + actually has history
[13:58] <brunch875> And you say pidgin supports it?
[13:58] <brunch875> I stopped using pidgin with the introduction of empathy back then
[13:58] <brunch875> wanted to give it a try and I kinda sticked to it
[13:59] <Acou_Bass> ahh maybe the facebook thing is still a plugin, but i imagine itll get merged into pidgin at some point if not already
[13:59] <brunch875> ¿Do you use pidgin yourself?
[13:59] <Acou_Bass> nah i use bitlbee hehe
[13:59] <Acou_Bass> which also has the plugin ;D
[13:59] <NeKit> how much is Ubuntu Tablet usable for things like simple code editing?
[13:59] <brunch875> I don't have the tablet, but it should be pretty decent
[14:00] <brunch875> I mean, it comes with vim core installed
[14:00] <brunch875> I remember using apt-get for a bunch of stuff
[14:00] <NeKit> I was trying to find some videos on YouTube, but at most seen GIMP running
[14:00] <brunch875> So probably you can also get some plugins like YCM
[14:03] <NeKit> it can probably run most of desktop apps, or?
[14:03] <brunch875> most?
[14:04] <brunch875> I'm strongly skeptical about that
[14:04] <Acou_Bass> ive only used libertine (the XMir container thingy) on nexus 4, and it runs anything i throw at it
[14:04] <Acou_Bass> obvious things like steam or whatevre aside of course
[14:04] <brunch875> is it so?
[14:04] <brunch875> I must admit I am impressed then!
[14:04] <Acou_Bass> it doesnt run everything perfectly, and there are a few annoying bugs
[14:05] <Acou_Bass> like in libreoffice sometimes the menus up top dont work right
[14:05] <brunch875> Have you tried some coding platforms like eclipse?
[14:05] <brunch875> does that work?
[14:05] <Acou_Bass> didnt try it, i dont code xD i did try emacs though
[14:05] <brunch875> :D
[14:05] <Acou_Bass> i couldnt figure out where emacs actually saves its configurations though
[14:05] <Acou_Bass> so didnt get too far with it
[14:05] <brunch875> I can't wait until it arrives on the uphone
[14:06] <brunch875> damn, now you're getting my hopes up
[14:06] <brunch875> I thought only about 40% the stuff would work
[14:06] <NeKit> I thought of getting Unity 8 running on mine x86 tablet, but desktop version doesn't seem to work even on laptop
[14:06] <Acou_Bass> like i sid its not perfect... dont expect miracles, but by the time it actually hits stable, i imagine it should be working pretty well xD
[14:07] <brunch875> I also hope that Qt gets stronger
[14:07] <Acou_Bass> remember youre basicaly just running the 'legacy' app in a container, the only bit thats a bit fiddly is the XMir compatability layer
[14:08] <brunch875> my biggest concern is the ARM architecture shutting down all old programs due to dependencies
[14:08] <Acou_Bass> so theres not much reason to assume things wont work unless theyre fairly heavy on the graphics and so the xmir thing messes it up
[14:08] <Acou_Bass> that could be an issue i guess hehe, but i thought ubuntu had fairly good ARM support in its repos
[14:09] <brunch875> To be honest, as long as I can get opencv to work exactly the same as in my laptop, I'll be all set to go
[14:09] <brunch875> + vim with plugins and crap like that
[14:09] <Acou_Bass> opencv?
[14:09] <brunch875> open computer vision
[14:09] <brunch875> libraries for programming eyes on the pc :D
[14:09] <Acou_Bass> does vim run in libertine? or is it ntive
[14:10] <brunch875> what's libertine?
[14:10] <Acou_Bass> the legacy app container thing
[14:11] <brunch875> eeeuh I suppose it'll work in both sides
[14:11] <Acou_Bass> like i said my main problem with libertine is i dont know where the config files get stored, so getting vim plugins working on it might be a bit fiddly
[14:11] <Acou_Bass> thats why i gave up on emacs withit
[14:11] <brunch875> it should all get put in /opt, right?
[14:11] <brunch875> either in /opt or at home
[14:11] <Acou_Bass> no the containers are stored in your /home
[14:11] <brunch875> that's where I'd look at
[14:11] <Acou_Bass> but i dunnno if the containers mount /home/phablet as the homedir for the applications
[14:12] <Acou_Bass> or if it has its own /home dir inside it
[14:12]  * brunch875 has no idea
[14:12] <Acou_Bass> im probably over-thinking this, but i have no idea either
[14:12] <Acou_Bass> :P
[18:09] <hello_there> Anyone here? 😃
[18:12] <brunch875> Of course!
[19:10] <Acou_Bass> heey folks, im trying to use sshfs to mount my ubuntu touch phone easily (my USB port is a bit flaky, so figured this would be easiest) however i keep getting connection reset by peer... anything i can do here?
[19:15] <popey> Acou_Bass: does it reset when the phone locks and the cpu suspends?
[19:20] <Acou_Bass> nope it just says connection reset by peer instantly
[19:20] <Acou_Bass> ahhh wait, its working now - it was a local known_hosts problem :) XD
[19:21] <Acou_Bass> i should probably go into town this week and find a dodgy dealer who will fix this USB port
[19:28] <sebsebsebb> at last in here on this tablet. Convergence!
[20:55] <brunch875> Jesus
[20:55] <brunch875> my utouch just died out of the blue
[20:55] <brunch875> won't power on
[20:55] <brunch875> no led when plugged in either
[20:55] <brunch875> sadface :c
[20:55] <Acou_Bass> 0,o
[20:56] <popey> hold power button longer than you think you need to
[20:56] <brunch875> but there's no charging led anymore either :S
[20:56] <brunch875> what the hell
[20:57] <brunch875> popey is the phone necromancer
[20:57] <popey> what charger you using?
[20:57] <brunch875> I tried multiple
[20:57] <brunch875> battery is full
[20:57] <popey> which device?
[20:57] <brunch875> E4.5
[20:57] <brunch875> it's back to normal now
[20:58] <popey> :)
[20:58] <popey> holding power worked?
[20:58] <brunch875> yes
[20:58] <popey> awesome
[20:58] <k1l> popey is the phonewhisperer
[20:58]  * popey makes a mark on his beadstead
[20:58] <brunch875> damn, you can't imagine how thankful I am for this
[20:58] <brunch875> I was setting up my alarm :P
[20:59] <brunch875> I thought it was properly dead since LED gets turned on when plugging whilst powered off
[20:59] <k1l> but most smartphones do have a "hold power (+ vol up or down) for 30 seconds" firmware feature.
[20:59] <brunch875> I suppose it was just in a deep ubuntu slumber
[21:00] <Acou_Bass> at first i was worried you had the nexus 4 red light of death (which is usually an easy fix but one that everyone bricks it over)
[21:01] <Acou_Bass> but then i realised you said no LED... ;0
[21:01] <brunch875> yeah, I only now after a year realized uphone displays no lead while charging when awake :p
[21:01] <brunch875> lead = led
[21:02] <Acou_Bass> ;D
[21:02] <Acou_Bass> id be curious to see what the LED light actually does thats useful, the nexus one is apparently quite active under android
[21:02] <popey> turns out you can poke the LED in /sys/ somewhere to make it do whatever you want
[21:03] <brunch875> that's pretty neat
[21:03] <brunch875> I'll play with that tomorrow
[21:03] <popey> i wrote a script to send random values that makes it disco freakout :)
[21:03] <Acou_Bass> XD epic
[21:14] <jfmcarreira> heyyy guys
[21:14] <jfmcarreira> is it possible to flash ubuntu touch without ubuntu distro?
[21:15] <Acou_Bass> yeah i did it with arch
[21:18] <Acou_Bass> ubuntu-device-flash is in the AUR (three times...) as is phablet-tools
[21:18] <stakewinner00> Acou_Bass, have you used the ubuntu sdk in arch too?
[21:18] <Acou_Bass> i havent
[21:18] <stakewinner00> i think will be interesting to port the sdk to other distros...
[21:19] <Acou_Bass> im not much of a coder myself so havent actually tried to do anything besides use the automagic scope builder thingy, which i ran in a chroot hehe
[21:21] <jfmcarreira> Acou_Bass: what if those tools are not part of the pkg system?
[21:22] <Acou_Bass> well... i dunno what id do in that situation - luckily for me they were :P
[21:22] <jfmcarreira> Acou_Bass: :)
[21:23] <Acou_Bass> but surely a drastic solution such as a container would work? is it possible to pass adb over to a container?
[21:32] <Acou_Bass> hm, quick curiosity question time - is there any way to tell ubuntu touch what to do when i press my bluetooth headset buttons? for some reason the back/forward buttons seem to turn volume up/down
[21:45] <mimecar> hi
[21:46] <Acou_Bass> ahoy
[22:08] <Gostdog> Hi there
[22:10] <Gostdog> i've touch on my nexus 7 but there is no gimp or libreoffice installed. How do i do that?
[22:22] <jfmcarreira> anyone here trying ubuntu touch with multi room?
[22:22] <jfmcarreira> multirom*
[23:27] <swalladge> so if i turn on read/write system to use apt-get i have two questions: 1. can i temporarily disable it to get system/ota updates (or force the updates)? 2. if i break the entire system, is there an official image i can flash back on for factory default?


[01:13] <chieta10> i want to get alternate for 1.6 G iso files just for booting ... fsck and edit some partiiiition due to failed boot.... which distro shoul i choose?
[01:13] <wxl> just use the mini.iso
[01:14] <wxl> or really if you want something particularly useful trinity rescue disk or finnix
[01:16] <rozelli_elli> hey guys anybody want to help me troubleshoot a sound problem
[01:17] <rozelli_elli> the sound would cut out back on the lxde distro and some software configuration used to fix it...sometimes my laptop has sound and other more often it does not have sound....sound through the headphones work all the time
[01:17] <rozelli_elli> i can take screenshots
[01:17] <rozelli_elli> i have the new lxqt distro now
[01:19] <rozelli_elli> laptop is not muted from the keyboard or anything like that...sound works through headphones but not trhough speakers...i did a fresh install a few days ago and noticed the problem
[01:22] <rozelli_elli> https://i.postimg.cc/fWhXgQ4r/screen.jpg
[01:23] <wxl> what was this "software configuration?"
[01:23] <rozelli_elli> hmm not sure
[01:23] <rozelli_elli> it was back on my lxde machine
[01:23] <rozelli_elli> something to do with headphones i think
[01:24] <wxl> harumph
[01:24] <wxl> so first thing's first: it's unlikely your problem is specific to lubuntu. it will likely be solved in the exact same way in any other ubuntu flavor as they all use the same kernel modules and sound server
[01:24] <rozelli_elli> indeed
[01:24] <rozelli_elli> https://i.postimg.cc/ZYVRPGJ3/screen2.jpg
[01:25] <rozelli_elli> ah i see...ty for halp
[01:25] <wxl> i'll see if i can't google some sort of guess or another, but that's a really curious thing if it's intermittent
[01:26] <wxl> s/google/duckduckgo/
[01:27] <chieta10> noted, wxl for the rescue disk
[01:29] <wxl> rozelli_elli: could you pastebin `lspci -nnk | grep -A 2 Audio` ?
[01:39] <Ranger5> Hi guys, I tried this earlier but I think something went wrong my end, so I'll try again. Is it possible to print emails from the Trojita mail client? I can't find the option to do so in any of the menus. Any one had the same trouble?
[01:47] <rozelli_elli> sorry
[01:47] <rozelli_elli> i'm not sure what that means
[01:47] <rozelli_elli> what is it that you are requesting i pastebin?
[01:47] <rozelli_elli> ?
[01:47] <rozelli_elli> you mean that command in the terminal?
[01:47] <rozelli_elli> i am a noob
[01:49] <wxl> yep
[02:25] <rozelli_elli> sorry that took so long wxl
[02:25] <rozelli_elli> https://i.postimg.cc/Cw2xMyhr/screen3.jpg
[02:25] <rozelli_elli> i was afk
[02:26] <rozelli_elli> i will hang out in this chat for a bit...i don't mean to bother you guys if you are busy
[02:33] <rozelli_elli> hey i just fixed the audo
[02:33] <rozelli_elli> audio*
[02:34] <rozelli_elli> i was in firefox and i went to a site that said
[02:34] <rozelli_elli> 'enable drm'
[02:34] <rozelli_elli> or something to that effect
[02:34] <rozelli_elli> and i clicked 'enable'
[02:34] <rozelli_elli> and now sound is working properly...and i clicked this button from within firefox
[02:36] <rozelli_elli> and now sound works for the whole system and not only firefox
[02:36] <wxl> well life pulls us away from the keyboard every now and then
[02:38] <wxl> anywho afaik that drm is just google widevine cdm
[02:38] <wxl> unfortunately that doesn't help much
[02:38] <wxl> my guess is maybe it restarted the sound server?
[02:40] <rozelli_elli> ah i see
[02:40] <rozelli_elli> when you say sound server do you mean something to the effect of
[02:40] <rozelli_elli> 'restarted the sound board'
[02:40] <wxl> pulseaudio
[02:40] <rozelli_elli> ah ok
[02:40] <rozelli_elli> so somehow caused pulseaudio to recognize it
[02:41] <rozelli_elli> hey you know what...what's the quickest way also to format a flash drive in the new lubuntu?
[02:41] <rozelli_elli> i ended up just using gparted
[02:41] <wxl> it's really got no physical analogue. it's not really a sound board/mixer. it's a middleware between kernel modules and user interface
[02:41] <wxl> you might have some clues in your logs as to what the error might be
[02:42] <rozelli_elli> u guyd r awesome
[02:42] <rozelli_elli> guys*
[02:42] <wxl> but maybe running `pulseaudio -k` would be worth a go. if it helps, that's simply restarting pulseaudio.
[02:42] <wxl> well you want the quickest or the easiest way XD
[02:44] <rozelli_elli> nice!
[02:44] <rozelli_elli> ty
[03:42] <p0wder> hey. what would you recommend for encrypting a flash drive? luks or veracrpyt?
 do you need it to be usable in other OSes?
 or just your Lubuntu system?
 if other OSes, VeraCrypt assuming you can put Veracrypt on the other systems.
 if just your system, luks could probably do it
 but i'd suggest just encrypting the data before writing it to the stick (PGP encryption, etc.)
[03:43] <p0wder> mostly linux
[03:44] <p0wder> hmm. i thought about doing that- its nothing confidential or anything
[03:44] <p0wder> just want to make it so no one can have my data if i lose it
 both are viable options, encrypting the disk or encrypting the data before putting it on the stick
 VeraCrypt would be the easier option than LUKS IMO
 but I usually don't encrypt the *disk* and just dump a VeraCrypt container (or some other file container mechanism) on the stick and then the stick can still be accessed but the data in the container is still at resk
 rest*
 rather than messing with full disk encrypton on external media
[03:49] <p0wder> i was leaning towards veracrypt. never did a whole disk tho, just containers
[03:49] <p0wder> wanted to check to see if luks would be better for that
[03:58] <happyamos> I just installed the Spotify Snap in lubuntu, but it didn't create an app shortcut in the menu. How do I create one? I don't even know where snaps are installed.
 happyamos: you may have to reboot for it to show in the menu.
[04:00] <guiverc> happyamos, I would find what command runs it, spot<tab><tab> should autocomplete to show command, or provide a list which I'd expect to pick it, then use `whereis ` to locate where it's found  (/snap/)
[04:01] <happyamos> ahh, whereis, got it!
[04:01] <happyamos> great thanks folks!
 `snap run NAMEOFSNAP` would start it too.
[04:02] <wxl> i did not know that ^ i guess @kc2bez is the now the Official Lubuntu Expert™
[04:03] <wxl> err Official Lubuntu SNAP Expert™
 oyi wxl
 Hah, I feel privliged to be crowned XD
 @wxl [<wxl> err Official Lubuntu SNAP Expert™], XD
[09:24] <lxe> Hello
 @The_LoudSpeaker tell me the way to verify the iso file, step by step. :)
[11:09] <The_LoudSpeaker> @SerjSev https://www.raymond.cc/blog/7-tools-verify-file-integrity-using-md5-sha1-hashes/2/
[11:10] <The_LoudSpeaker> even if you delete the message on telegram, it remains in the irc.
[11:10] <The_LoudSpeaker> :)
[13:57] <happyamos> Issue, look at the bottom of my screen, how the window does not line up with the task bar, but hides behind it. https://paste.pics/7MVWN
[14:07] <happyamos> Where do you edit the channel list that gets auto-joined in Quassel IRC?
[14:13] <happyamos_> I found a way to hack the taskbar margin at the bottom using the OpenBox Settings manager, but that still doesn't seem right.
[14:26] <kc2bez> happyamos: If you right click on the panel and go to configure panel is "Reserve space on display" ticked on? That should reserve the panel space for maximized windows. You can still manually slide a windo underneath but the maximized windows should respect it.
[14:27] <happyamos> Wow, that was it! I must have ticked it off by accident, thanks!
[14:30] <happyamos> Now I need to figure out window snap. If it's limited to keybindings, that's ok.
[14:36] <kc2bez> Window snapping is limited to keybinds and would have to be added to the openbox config.
[14:37] <kc2bez> We removed it because it interfered with the super key but it could be added back with another keybind instead.
 happyamos: window snap is not supported in 19.10. You can add it by manually by using openbox config. But I should warn you, it will be a dirty hack and I don't recommend it.
[14:40] <happyamos> Keybindings are ok. How did the bindings interfere with the superkey?
 @happyamos [<happyamos> Keybindings are ok. How did the bindings interfere with the superkey …], If you set any binding with super key from openbox, the ones that are in lxqt-globalkeys (shortcut settings in menu) won't work.
 You can set bindings of super key from shortcut settings.
[15:54] <kc2bez> They left @The_LoudSpeaker
 Sed.
[16:27] <john-v> Hello y'all
[16:27] <john-v> i'm testing a lubuntu distro in a VM
[16:28] <john-v> i am really considering to change mint for Lubuntu, what do you think?
[16:30] <kc2bez> john-v: We think Lubuntu is a great choice but we may be a bit biased :)
[16:31]  * diogenes_ has never had good time with mint
[16:32] <john-v> well, i like cinnamon mint but i need somethoing lighter 'cause my hardware is... well, is not a piece of shit but is not great either
[16:32] <john-v> i'm planning on using it for some web app/flask stuff and maybe some android dev
[16:33] <kc2bez> Lubuntu is the lightest of the official flavors. The modern web can be taxing however. What are your machine specifications?
[16:33] <kc2bez> Also
[16:34] <kc2bez> !language
[16:35] <john-v> sorry, i was in the other part of the internet
[16:35] <john-v> my card
[16:36] <john-v> asrock QC5000M
[16:36] <john-v> 4 Gigs of ram
[16:37] <john-v> CPU a4-5050
[16:40] <kc2bez> That should work. You may find yourself limited as to the number of tabs, etc. due to the amount of RAM but I have tested Lubuntu on machines with lower specs and they work fine.
[16:45] <john-v> you think it can candle android studio?
[16:50] <kc2bez> According to the specs at the bottom of this page https://developer.android.com/studio It should work, you may be on the low-end of that though.
[16:59] <john-v> thank you, i think RAM is a must, lubuntu or mint, i feel bad for asking a googleable question
[17:00] <kc2bez> No worries, happy to help.
 @john-v [<john-v> thank you, i think RAM is a must, lubuntu or mint, i feel bad for askin …], I can easily run 30 tabs in Chrome with 6 gb of ram in Lubuntu. 4 seems to be a bit of a bottleneck.
[17:20] <john-v> yeah, it feels like it, i think >12 is the right amout of RAM
 (Photo, 800x600) https://i.imgur.com/gahqEPq.jpg
 what if the sda5(ext4) formatted to ntfs... will the windows booting with grub or will the box not booting?
[23:42] <Ranger5> Hi guys, does anyone know how to print emails from the Trojita mail client? The option seems to be missing from my menus.
[23:43] <kc2bez> Ranger5: I don't think it is possible from within Trojita.
[23:44] <kc2bez> The only option I can see is to save the message and open it with another program that can print.
[23:44] <Ranger5> Isn't that a bit wierd though? Surely it's a basic function?
[23:45] <kc2bez> It does indeed seem like it should be basic functionality.
[23:47] <Ranger5> Well if that's the only way, that's what I'll do. It's a Shame though because I actually quite the program.
[23:49] <Ranger5> kc2bez: Thanks for your help:)
[23:50] <kc2bez> Sorry I didn't have a better answer, I like Trojita too.
[23:50] <kc2bez> A feature request on their bug tracker might help.
[23:52] <Ranger5> True, but I tried that with soemthing another program and it was ignored. Besides, there's not a lot of movement on Trojita development is there?
[23:53] <kc2bez> It isn't overwhelming but there does seem to be some bugfixing.
[23:56] <Ranger5> Another thing that I've missed with Trojita is Smileys, but that seems to be more of a Qt problem, is that right?
[23:58] <kc2bez> I don't know the answer to that. It could be a font issue or the way fonts are handled in trojita.


[07:04] <didrocks> good morning
[08:01] <oSoMoN> good morning
[08:06] <MacSlow> greetings everybody
[09:19] <toshiba> hello is anyone there
[09:21] <toshiba> I have a unity question if anyone is avalible
[09:21] <Peddy> !ask
[09:22] <toshiba> How can I add the time and date to my desktop screen like all gnome
[09:23] <Peddy> toshiba, do you mean add it to your panel (the bar at the top of your screen)?
[09:23] <toshiba> yes that's it any thoughts ?
[09:24] <Peddy> toshiba, do you currently see any date information up there at all? or is it blank?
[09:25] <toshiba> no date, no time just signal sound, mail X and the off button
[09:26] <toshiba> in the usual place you would find the date and time
[09:26] <Peddy> toshiba, which ubuntu version are you using?
[09:27] <toshiba> 11.04 unity desktop
[09:27] <toshiba> I have been using Ubuntu gnome since 8.04
[09:27] <Peddy> toshiba, did you update from 10.10 or do a clean install?
[09:28] <toshiba> I updated but if YOu think it will help  I will start from fresh no problem with that
[09:29] <Peddy> toshiba, it probably won't. Can you open a terminal, type "unity" and press enter please?
[09:29] <toshiba> O.K
[09:31] <coz_> toshiba,  also  in terminal ,, you could try   compiz --replace & disown and or   unity --replace & disown,, not sure that is going to bring back the upper panel,, but I have experienced this at times
[09:33] <toshiba> I did it and the screen filled with data
[09:48] <toshiba> I'm sorry Peddy I did what you said "type unity in a terminal" and the screen filled and had a frozen computer so I rebooted and went to the wrong channel
[09:50] <toshiba> the panels disappear for a moment then the last line on the terminal window is "setting update "fullscreen_visual_bell" and that's it it just waits
[09:57] <toshiba> when I tried to close the waiting terminal page the computer freeze and I have to use ctrl-alt-F2 and login again and reboot from there
[11:23] <myrmidette> test
[12:11] <didrocks> kaleo: I have an additional diff for migrating natty -> oneiric, should I propose against /oneiric or /4.0 (I saw you merged the oneiric changes in 4.0, was this intended?)
[12:21] <kaleo> didrocks: there was no merge :)
[12:21] <kaleo> didrocks: it's just a nickname
[12:21] <kaleo> didrocks: 4.0 is a nickname for the branch called /oneiric
[12:21] <didrocks> oh ok, the lp:unity-2d/4.0 alias
[12:22] <kaleo> right
[12:23] <didrocks> kaleo: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/unity-2d/oneiric-natty-migration/+merge/62466 then :) I faked the migration here to ensure it works well
[12:36] <didrocks> kaleo: thanks :)
[12:36]  * didrocks brb
[14:07] <mterry> njpatel (and others): I hear there is porting-indicators-to-gtk3 work to be had?  Can I help?  Shall I just grab an indicator and start porting?
[14:32] <mardy> hi, what's the bzr equivalent for "git rebase -i"?
[14:33] <mardy> I have 4 commits in a branch, the last two being corrections to the previous ones
[14:33] <mardy> I'd like to squash them in order to get only two commits in my tree, 1+3 and 2+4
[15:33] <njpatel> mterry, probably, but you'll need ted to be sure :)
[15:33] <njpatel> or maybe kenvandine
[15:34] <kenvandine> mterry, i would say just dive in and ping ted about it when you see him online
[15:34] <mterry> Doing it already, thanks guys!
[15:34] <kenvandine> we know they need porting, and i think ted wants to make sure they build for gtk2 as well
[15:35] <evaluate> Hello.
[15:35] <mterry> kenvandine, doing that too
[15:36] <kenvandine> mterry, of course you are, you rock :)
[15:37] <evaluate> I am installing an icon in my program in the location /usr/share/pixmaps/myapp/trayicon.svg and I'm having problems setting this icon as the appindicator icon with  appindicator_new_with_path()...
[15:37] <didrocks> kaleo: agateau_: oSoMoN: unity-2d is now seeded by default in oneiric, congrats \o/
[15:37] <agateau_> didrocks: congrats to you!
[15:37] <oSoMoN> didrocks: awesome, long live unity-2d :)
[15:37] <mterry> evaluate, you may consider installing it in the more standard location /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps
[15:38] <evaluate> I am passing "/usr/share/pixmaps/myapp" as the last argument and 'trayicon' as the second one.
[15:38] <evaluate> mterry, how is that location more standard than /usr/share/pixmaps ?
[15:39] <mterry> evaluate, that's part of the icon theme spec.  So it will be treated as an "icon-name" you can use in GTK.  And it will be themable if anyone wants to create a themed version of your icon
[15:39] <evaluate> I mean, if the user doesn't have the hicolor theme or has a custom theme that doesn't depend on hicolor, the icon won't work either...
[15:39] <kaleo> nerochiaro: ^ 16:37 < didrocks> kaleo: agateau_: oSoMoN: unity-2d is now seeded by default in oneiric, congrats \o/
[15:40] <didrocks> I was looking for nerochiaro, autocomplete betrayed me :)
[15:40] <evaluate> mterry, but is it guaranteed that the icons from hicolor will be available in any configuration (like the ones I mentioned above)?
[15:41] <mterry> evaluate, hicolor is the fallback theme for all icon themes, so yes
[15:43] <evaluate> mterry, ok then, now if I already have a package in Debian/Ubuntu that installs the icon to /usr/share/pixmaps, is there a way I can remove it with an update (or is that even needed)?
[15:43] <mterry> evaluate, that would be handled automatically by dpkg
[15:43] <evaluate> mterry, that's good. Thank you very much for your help!
[15:44] <mterry> evaluate, and that way, you likely wouldn't need to pass appindicator a special path, just use its normal icon setting function
[15:45] <evaluate> mterry, that's good to hear. But I'd have one more question. If in the future I'd like to install a couple more icons, is there a way to create a separate directory, or what would be the best way to handle this?
[15:46] <mterry> evaluate, look in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable.  there are other directories and such.  it doesn't matter which subdirectory you put the icons in, the theme will find them (as long as you don't invent subdirs)
[15:47] <mterry> evaluate, and if you have a png icon, put it in the appropriate top dir like 48x48 instead of scalable
[15:48] <evaluate> The icon is in svg format, so I guess scalable would be the right place.
[15:50] <mterry> evaluate, (this may be TMI, but you are allowed to put svg icons in the sized directories if they are designed to be viewed at that size)
[15:51] <evaluate> mterry, well, yeah, but afaik the scalable folder should be the fallback for any size anyway, shouldn't it?
[15:51] <mterry> evaluate, the lookup algorithm is complicated.  It's certainly the fallback if there aren't any other sized icons
[15:54] <evaluate> mterry, a final question. In my makefile I am currently installing the icon to $(datarootdir)/pixmaps/myapp. Should I change that to $(datarootdir)/icons/hicolor or is there already a more appropriate variable set for this case?
[15:55] <evaluate> s,hicolor,hicolor/scalable,
[15:56] <mterry> evaluate, no, you have to spell it out
[15:56] <mterry> don't forget the /apps too
[15:57] <evaluate> mterry, ok. Thanks again for your help!
[15:57] <evaluate> Ohh, yeah. :-)
[15:57] <mterry> evaluate, yw!
[16:14] <evaluate> mterry, hmm. Having the icon in the path you specified doesn't seem to have the desired effect either...
[16:15] <mterry> evaluate, :(
[16:15] <mterry> evaluate, did you reinstall via dpkg or just copy the file there?
[16:16] <evaluate> I installed it with make && sudo make install
[16:16] <evaluate> but I'd guess it would be the same, since make also just does a cp, doesn't it?
[16:16] <mterry> evaluate, let me give you a bit of automake magic
[16:17] <mterry> evaluate, you have to update the gtk icon cache after copying.  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/613299/ will do that nicely
[16:27] <evaluate> mterry, that worked. Thanks! :-)
[16:27] <mterry> evaluate, awesome
[16:52] <mardy> kaleo_: hi! About the home button issue...
[16:53] <mardy> kaleo_: the QToolButton is not subclassed at the moment
[16:53] <kaleo_> mardy: correct, it's a pain :(
[16:54] <kaleo_> mardy: I am sorry about that
[17:01] <mardy> kaleo_: should I add the subclass in a different source file, or in the same?
[17:01] <racarr> @dbarth Hi. I sent you a pm just in case you missed. ready when you are :)
[17:01] <racarr> woah...did I just twitter message on IRC? -.- brain scattered
[17:02] <mardy> kaleo_: OK. But then I'll also move the timing in that subclass, so that HomeButtonApplets will not have any hacks
[17:04] <Kaleo> mardy: sorry, I have connection issues today
[17:04] <Kaleo> mardy: in a different source file would make sense
[17:04] <Kaleo> mardy: and moving the hack in that class makes a lot of sense
[17:04] <Kaleo> mardy: it will give us reusability
[17:04] <mardy> Kaleo: agreed, thanks!
[17:46] <mardy> Kaleo: do you know how I can squash two commits together in bzr? (having some other commits in between: so, it's actually a re-order + squash)
[17:47]  * mardy already misses git :-)
[17:48] <Nafai> mardy: I always miss git when I have to use bzr )
[17:48] <Nafai> :)
[17:58] <Kaleo> mardy: sorry I don't know
[17:58] <Kaleo> mardy: but it's fine, what matters most to us is the merge commit
[18:25] <mardy> OMG! I need to try this! https://github.com/termie/git-bzr-ng
[18:28] <mardy> Kaleo: I updated the review request
[18:28] <mardy> Kaleo: seems work fine now :-)
[18:29] <mardy> *to
[18:33] <Kaleo> mardy: fantastic!
[18:34] <Kaleo> mardy: I have to run now, but I'll take a look and I guess merge it right away :)
[18:34] <Kaleo> (or let the robot merge for me)
[18:35] <mardy> Kaleo: I did a small variation, so I prefer that you review it. I'm not in a hurry, so take your time :-)