[03:53] <ngmlinux> crimsun: ok i'll module-assistant install the ndiswrapper then i do make?
[03:53] <tga> nalioth, ok, I didn't catch that
[03:53] <crimsun> ngmlinux: just follow the directions
[03:53] <walter> during the long text i couldnt see any
[03:53] <homss> izracunaj koliko ti kite treba
[03:53] <walter> it went the whole way throguh anyway
[03:53] <crimsun> walter: no, the modprobe
[03:53] <ngmlinux> crimsun, WHAT DIRECTIONS????
[03:53] <walter> no output at all
[03:53] <walter> assume good
[03:53] <anaccount> Marsh u lepo peechka materina ti yebeni prokliti derkagia
[03:53] <crimsun> walter: good.  How do you wish to proceed?"
[03:58] <walter> i will wait
[03:58] <mwright1> yer wasn't slang for your in this instance
[03:58] <anaccount> im not cursing
[03:58] <ngmlinux> ok thanks crimsun, i give up
[03:58] <ngmlinux> linux was never designed to support wireless right?
[03:58] <odat> morale: k it says load dri
[03:59] <morale> odat, what do your log files say in /var/log/Xorg.0.log when attempting to load the dri module?
[03:59] <ngmlinux> why have plug and play wireless in windows when you can spend 2 weeks trying to get it to work in ubuntu only to find it's impossible?
[03:59] <peirthies> I am having an intresting problem with my burner, under here, it only seems to want to burn at 1x under growisofs regardless of what I have the -speed= set at.. any ideas?
[03:59] <ngmlinux> i love linux i'm working on a distro that takes an experienced user 4000 commands to send an e-mail
[04:00] <windex> ngmlinux, windows was never designed to support wireless either. the Wireless Zero Conf service is a sidestep to that, which attempts to brokenly treat all wifi adapters the same.
[04:00] <ngmlinux> windex, wireless just works in windows though
[04:00] <ngmlinux> i have to modify and compile an application for it in linux
[04:00] <ngmlinux> and it crashes in ubuntu
[04:00] <sly> why not go back to windows then......................if its what your hardware works on, stick with it
[04:01] <windex> ngmlinux, not really. the only advantage to wifi on windows is that a) it has commercial drivers and support and b) the application to manage profiles is a little better imho.
[04:01] <ngmlinux> sly you're like the 100th linux person to tell me to use windows
[04:01] <ngmlinux> lol
[04:01] <ngmlinux> windows isn't that good
[04:01] <ngmlinux> but much better than this
[04:01] <morale> windows works fine.
[04:01] <wastrel> there's an application to manage wifi profiles in linux?
[04:01] <ngmlinux> but wifi doens' twork in linux does it?
[04:01] <ngmlinux> it's still in development
[04:01] <windex> wastrel, "no".
[04:01] <windex> sure it does
[04:01] <odat> morale: LoadModule: "dri"
[04:01] <odat> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
[04:01] <odat> (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[04:01] <odat> 	compiled for 6.8.2, module version = 1.0.0
[04:01] <odat> 	ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2
[04:01] <windex> if you have the right hardware.
[04:01] <morale> wifi works fine in linux if you buy something supported.
[04:02] <windex> odat, don't paste, someone else will violate your sanity now.
[04:02] <wastrel> my laptop runs linux and works fine w/ wifi
[04:02] <odat> sorry windex
[04:02] <ngmlinux> that's great wastrel
[04:02] <wastrel> but theres' no decent UI for managing wifi afaik
[04:02] <morale> odat, do you have the "glx" module loaded also?
[04:02] <sly> i know of 2 wifi laptops that work fine.............. my personaly dont
[04:02] <ngmlinux> wonder why people pay a lot of $$ to use windows when linux is free
[04:02] <ngmlinux> because it just works
[04:02] <ngmlinux> well most of the time
[04:02] <sorush20> guys I'm using streamripper and I'm unable to change the user agent can someone help please..
[04:02] <windex> wastrel, just like ifconfig, though, iwconfig is a cakewalk if you've used it a bit
[04:03] <ngmlinux> ture
[04:03] <ngmlinux> true
[04:03] <bimberi> wifi works fine if you're lucky enough to have hardware made by a company that is linux friendly
[04:03] <ngmlinux> snon you make a good point
[04:03] <wastrel> windex, i'm talking pointy clicky of course
[04:03] <odat> morale: how do i check  I looked in synaptic and i didn't see any glx loaded
[04:03] <windex> wastrel, i know. but pointy clicky is not and never will be the strong point of a linux distribution.
[04:04] <wastrel> windex, which explains why i can't print my pdf's double-sided :[
[04:05] <windex> walter, at least you can print single sided. my printer and cups don't get alone.
[04:05] <windex> err, along.
[04:05] <wastrel> yeah but i want to save paper :]
[04:05] <wastrel> and i bought a new printer because my old one didn't work :]
[04:05] <odat> k morale i think i found it in the log
[04:06] <walter> wrong man i think
[04:06] <peirthies> having a problem with my burner and growisofs can anyone help?
[04:06] <Invader_Zim> Anyway I can get rid of totem?
[04:06] <sn0n> thnx man..
[04:06] <sn0n> sry bout that :-X
[04:07] <mik3> Seveas you here
[04:07] <sn0n> Invader_Zim, not really.. why you want to/>
[04:07] <_lui_> hello hello
[04:07] <windex> wastrel, for reasons unknown, lpd will print to my printer, but cups, hell, half the time my printer hard locks.
[04:07] <Invader_Zim> It just gives me a reasouce busy error while all other players work.
[04:07] <sn0n> you could remove it from the panel
[04:08] <Invader_Zim> besides when it was in another distro it was crap anyway so I will not miss it.
[04:08] <thoreauputic> can someone type my nick please?
[04:08] <sn0n> locate totem , pipe it, and rm all totem lines
[04:08] <Invader_Zim> It simply did not work here.
[04:08] <sn0n> :: chuckles ::
[04:08] <sn0n> thoreauputic,
[04:08] <thoreauputic> thanks
[04:09] <sn0n> Invader_Zim, you can try Totem-xine
[04:09] <odat> well does anyone have any idea about the opengl thing?
[04:09] <nalioth> thoreauputic: you got bells on now?
[04:09] <bimberi> smeghead :)
[04:09] <dabaR> @nalioth?
[04:09] <dabaR> heh
[04:09] <evader> howdy
[04:09] <thoreauputic> nalioth: no, I'm trying to set the bell :)
[04:09] <_lui_> here is my today problem: I have 2 sound cards, one comes with the board and the other is a SB Live... the thing is, I like ubuntu to start with the SB and to control it with the GUI, what I need to do?
[04:09] <HrdwrBoB> thoreauputic:
[04:10] <HrdwrBoB> _lui_: disable the onboard card in the bios
[04:10] <HrdwrBoB> that is the easiest thing to do
[04:10] <nalioth> dabaR: hmm?
[04:10] <_lui_> hmmm+
[04:10] <dabaR> exactly.
[04:10] <_lui_> ok
[04:10] <_lui_> thx
[04:10] <dabaR> anyhow, got an assignment due.
[04:10] <evader> How do you stop/start a service for runlevel 2
[04:10] <_lui_> I'll be back
[04:11] <evader> just change it from a S to a K prefix in /etc/rc2?
[04:11] <evader> or chmod -x it in there?
[04:11] <evader> or remove that link all together?
[04:11] <peirthies> I am having a problem with my burner and growisofs can anyone help?
[04:11] <Invader_Zim> Why isn't xine the default player?
[04:11] <sn0n> because gstreamer is good for gnome
[04:12] <odat> everyone is assuming that gstreamer will surpass xine
[04:12] <sn0n> and xine is just x based
[04:12] <sn0n> i like my reason better  ;-)
[04:12] <odat> lol
[04:12] <sn0n> hehe
[04:12] <Agrajag> gstreamer isn't very good for much of anything
[04:12] <Agrajag> yet
[04:12] <Invader_Zim> I doubt it no codecs ever worked in totem for me
[04:12] <evader> gxine rocks
[04:12] <sn0n> its good for porn
[04:12] <Invader_Zim> gxine does rock.
[04:12] <Agrajag> Invader_Zim: install totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer
[04:12] <sinned> Can anyone here help me with something?
[04:12] <sn0n> i mean.. uhmm.. listening to legal ogg files
[04:12] <sn0n> ;-)
[04:12] <sinned> I'm trying to download a rpm and firefox is being gay
[04:13] <sn0n> sinned, right click save as ?
[04:13] <D1> you use gstreamer for pr0n?
[04:13] <sinned> Tried
[04:13] <odat> yea
[04:13] <D1> really? I thought xine was good for that.
[04:13] <sn0n> D1, of course..
[04:13] <Invader_Zim> Also mplayer is great too for that type of stuff.
[04:13] <sn0n> lol
[04:13] <kevogod> RPMs are Real files. RedHat hijacked the extension.
[04:13] <sn0n> hehehe
[04:13] <sinned> "XML Parsing Error: Syntax error"
[04:13] <sn0n> sinned, wget it
[04:13] <odat> you need to install a critical plugin for gstreamer if you want all the codecs working
[04:13] <sinned> :?
[04:13] <sly> sinned........ why would you need a rpm for ubuntu ?
[04:13] <sn0n> sinned, man wget
[04:13] <sly> =\
[04:13] <sinned> I'm downloading synergy
[04:14] <kevogod> GStreamer sucks for porn. Xine is the only way!
[04:14] <sinned> And it only comes with .rpm for linux
[04:14] <sn0n> lol..
[04:14] <omp342> gnome 2.12 is released :)
[04:14] <omp342> will it be included with breezy?
[04:14] <sn0n> omp342, not yet
[04:14] <bimberi> !info synergy
[04:14] <omp342> sn0n: www.gnome.org
[04:14] <ubotu> synergy: (Share mouse and keyboard over the network), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.14-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 852 kB
[04:14] <Invader_Zim> nice no sound
[04:14] <odat> not if you install gstreamer.pitfdll
[04:14] <sn0n> oo shit.. i didnt even notice the date
[04:14] <sn0n> hahaha
[04:14] <sn0n> i thought it was the 6th still
[04:15] <sly> its the 8th here
[04:15] <bimberi> sinned: synergy is available in the universe repository
[04:15] <sinned> Oh
[04:15] <sinned> Oka
[04:15] <sinned> y
[04:15] <lewwy> hey guys
[04:15] <lewwy> Can somebody help me with a wine problem in here?
[04:15] <odat> bimberi: what is synergy?
[04:15] <walter> how do you keep the ubuntu system up to date installing all the security fixes but not normal programs
[04:15] <sinned> !info synergy
[04:15] <ubotu> synergy: (Share mouse and keyboard over the network), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.0.14-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 852 kB
[04:15] <sinned> There
[04:15] <odat> ahhh ok
[04:15] <kevogod> odat, Meh
[04:15] <omp342> for some reason when i turn off my computer
[04:16] <sn0n> walter, turn off some repos
[04:16] <omp342> my sound settings dont get saveed
[04:16] <omp342> saved*
[04:16] <Invader_Zim> Ok it does not tank now but it has no sound at all and yes my card is working.
[04:16] <odat> kevogod:  ??
[04:16] <lewwy> I run SteamInstall.exe (under wine, non-cvs) and I get "Could not initiliaze installation.  X:\GLC14b.tmp File not found
[04:16] <sn0n> walter, there is security- repos.
[04:16] <sn0n> just turn off the others
[04:17] <PounK> hello
[04:17] <sinned> bimberi, how do you run syenergy
[04:17] <sinned> Err
[04:17] <sinned> However you spell it :/
[04:17] <odat> anyone know what this means
[04:17] <odat> glxinfo|grep -i ^direct
[04:17] <odat> direct rendering: No
[04:17] <wastrel> it means your hardware acceleration isn't working
[04:18] <sly> means you got shitty s3 graphics like my laptop
[04:18] <PounK> do breezy while have a graphic installation?
[04:18] <PounK> GraphicalInstaller is wip in Low Priority but ubuntuexpress is  Deferred
[04:18] <walter> sn0n, so I would just leave that one uncommented and then to a general update?
[04:18] <odat> lol anyway to fix it?
[04:18] <Madpilot> odat: what graphic card do you have?
[04:18] <sn0n> yea
[04:18] <walter> how often do you do it?
[04:18] <lewwy> Ok, I take it nobody can help me with my steam problem.  How about when I'm in Counter Strike 1.6 I lag like nothing on earth as my ping blows out to about 700.  While I'm in the game it seems to send and recieve packets once every second. Any suggestions about that?
[04:18] <bimberi> sinned: i don't
[04:18] <sn0n> i run updates daily
[04:18] <sinned> :/
[04:18] <odat> madpilot: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[04:18] <sinned> Synaptic didn't install it to the gnome menu :/
[04:19] <sn0n> just so i dont end up having to wait 10 minutes for 100+ mb's every now and then
[04:19] <[Spooky] > im about to set up a ftp-serv for a friend as a backup unit for him... what are my responsibilties ?
[04:19] <sn0n> [Spooky] , vsftpd is nice
[04:19] <Madpilot> walter: the update thing - little red thing in the notification panel - will come up when you need to update...
[04:19] <sinned> Anyone here run Synergy
[04:19] <Madpilot> odat: never heard of S3...sorry
[04:19] <magneto> problem- via 8235 - I can control sound inside of applications but cant adjust sound through the gnome-volume-control except to mute via pcm - i have asounrc setup etc - this hasnt worked since install the other day- any ideas?
[04:19] <tga> sinned, iirc you have to run the synergy tools from a terminal.. there is no gui to them
[04:20] <sinned> Hmm
[04:20] <sinned> How do I do that?
[04:20] <sinned> like what command?
[04:20] <odat> sly: you know of a way i can fix it?
[04:20] <magneto> possible gnome permission settings???
[04:20] <sly> S3 have porr drivers................. i gave up hope with s3 on my laptop
[04:20] <tga> sinned, like synergyc and synergys
[04:20] <lewwy> type synergy and bash tab
[04:20] <Madpilot> sinned: try "synergy" at a command prompt?
[04:20] <sinned> did
[04:20] <sinned> Did nothing
[04:20] <lewwy> hmmm
[04:21] <sorush20> how do I get gnome to work again it keeps on crashing before I'm able to login fully
[04:21] <lewwy> you should have synergyc and synergys
[04:21] <tga> sinned: there is a server and a client
[04:21] <sinned> Yeah
[04:21] <sinned> I have the server running
[04:21] <tga> sinned, man synergyc then
[04:22] <sinned> k
[04:22] <sn0n> is gnome 2.12 in universe ?  or is there a decent 2.12 repo for hoary ?
[04:22] <odat> well is there a command i can use to enable the drivers?
[04:23] <matthew_w> What's a decent DVD+/-R Writer with an X11 frontend?
[04:23] <sorush20> If i'm sharing my music files on gnutella can someone find my IP and locate me .. and sue me..
[04:23] <lewwy> matthew_w, probably k3b if you have kde installed
[04:23] <tga> matthew_w, k3b (for kde)
[04:23] <walter> thats all well and good Madpilot but i have 72 packages available
[04:23] <nalioth> sorush20: yes
[04:23] <walter> :)
[04:23] <lewwy> tga, great minds think alike, fools minds seldom differ
[04:23] <matthew_w> Unfortunately I'm running Gnome, and I don't know if I want to use like 400 extra MB's for a program x-x
[04:23] <sorush20> matthew_w: did you tey k3b... install it from synaptic..
[04:23] <tga> I'd still like to have a gtk k3b
[04:23] <sn0n> anyone use liferea (and has it running right now, for more then a couple hrs)
[04:24] <Madpilot> walter: then it's been a while since you updated, I'm guessing?
[04:24] <parktownprawn> gnomebaker is ok cd/dvd software
[04:24] <walter> this is my first day
[04:24] <matthew_w> gnomebaker?
[04:24] <matthew_w> Avail thru synaptic?
[04:24] <sn0n> matthew_w, its the gnome k3b
[04:24] <sorush20> nalioth is there a way I can fake my IP address.. I am on a home network..
[04:24] <walter> but i did open extra reps
[04:24] <tga> what image catalog apps do you guys use?
[04:24] <nalioth> sorush20: that is not a topic for this channel
[04:24] <sn0n> matthew_w, to burn audio and data CD / DVD's
[04:24] <tga> sorush20, no
[04:24] <sn0n> tga, gthumb
[04:25] <sn0n> sorush20, use a proxy
[04:25] <parktownprawn> i think gnomebaker is in universe
[04:25] <matthew_w> sn0n; ... what if I want to burn say... a video DVD... like.. A movie that I *wink wink* DIDN'T *wink* download off of the internet.
[04:25] <sn0n> hehe
[04:25] <Madpilot> tga: gThumb is great - it even talks to digital cameras
[04:25] <lewwy> *Sigh*
[04:25] <janga> matthew_w: try graveman, its better than gnomebaker
[04:25] <sn0n> i believe it does video dvds also.. aint sure.. google around a bit
[04:25] <sorush20> sn0n: really how will that help?
[04:26] <sn0n> "dvd authoring linux"
[04:26] <tga> I'm looking at gThumb vs F-spot atm
[04:26] <matthew_w> I have graveman... I just don't know if it will burn video to the DVD's janga
[04:26] <sn0n> F-Spot is mono isnt it ?
[04:26] <tga> a merge would be nice.. something like picasa
[04:26] <tga> sn0n, indeed it is
[04:26] <sn0n> mmm.. i LOVE picasa
[04:26] <sn0n> and hello also
[04:26] <sn0n> hello KICKS ASS
[04:26] <Xenguy> Now that we need to 'identify' our nick before being allowed to /join ubuntu, does anyone know a way that I can automate the identify with irssi, instead of having to do it manually each time?
[04:26] <sinned> tga can you help me get synergy running?
[04:26] <tga> hello is the easiest way to share pics with clueless people
[04:26] <sn0n> Xenguy, man irssi
[04:26] <DgIy0> is there any way someone can walk me through the installation of my UBUNTU for power PC on my old G3??? I never touched a mac in my entire life and someone just gave me this G3 with 256Mb of ram and a 20Gb HD... the deal is i hate the operating system and i'd love to have ubuntu running on it... but i have no clue how to make this bootX work...
[04:26] <nalioth> Xenguy: there is a explanation for irssi on it's home page
[04:26] <sn0n> if your using irssi , you should know how to use man.. lol
[04:27] <tga> sinned, I can try.. what are you trying to do?
[04:27] <Xenguy> sn0n: you are kidding right?
[04:27] <sinned> I have the server running and on the client pc...I'm running synergyc <IP_ADDRESS> and its not working
[04:27] <Xenguy> nalioth: OK, will RTFM
[04:27] <lewwy> does anyone here know much about wine and steam?
[04:27] <sn0n> Xenguy, why you even using irssi if you dont know its config files? .. so no.. im not kidding
[04:27] <mwright1> matthew_w?
[04:27] <Xenguy> sn0n: go away
[04:27] <janga> matthew_w: there is a nero for linux available. dl the demo
[04:27] <tga> sinned, what OS is the server running on?
[04:27] <sn0n> Xenguy, your the one that asked the question. ;-)
[04:27] <mwright1> same firstname and initials as me hehe
[04:27] <sinned> Ubuntu
[04:27] <matthew_w> janga; will graveman burn DVD video?
[04:27] <matthew_w> mwright1; yes?
[04:27] <tga> sinned, did you configure the server before running it?
[04:27] <nalioth> DgIy0: there is a nice walkthrough here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[04:27] <Xenguy> sn0n: yeah, looking for a quick tip is all :P
[04:27] <sinned> no :/
[04:28] <sinned> Didn't know you had to :/
[04:28] <sn0n> nothings faster then man
[04:28] <sn0n> ;-)
[04:28] <tga> sinned, there you have it
[04:28] <DgIy0> THANKS nalioth
[04:28] <janga> matthew_w: i didnt try, but i dont think so
[04:28] <sn0n> hehe
[04:28] <kevogod> sn0n, woman <topic>
[04:28] <matthew_w> janga; would the nero CD I have that came with my writer have the linux version?
[04:28] <sly> doubtful
[04:29] <sn0n> wow.. irssi has a crappy man file
[04:29] <sn0n> lol
[04:29] <sly> i just keep poping up
[04:29] <tga> sinned, man synergys.. you have to create a synergys.conf
[04:29] <sinned> hmm
[04:29] <sinned> okay
[04:29] <tga> sinned, in it you set up the screens and the hosts
[04:29] <odat> hmm not sure how to track down this problem my screen redraws are painfully slow
[04:29] <odat> damn it
[04:29] <odat> ergghhh
[04:29] <nalioth> Xenguy: it's gonna take a config editing session
[04:29] <tga> sinned, then from what I remember the other host must be added to /etc/host and refered by name
[04:29] <sn0n> odat,  use the correct drivers  for your hardware ?
[04:29] <janga> matthew_w: i think you are allowed to use the windows serial with nero linux.
[04:29] <sinned> hmm
[04:29] <sinned> okay
[04:29] <sinned> Thanks
[04:29] <sn0n> ahh.. i gotta get goin.. bbl all
[04:29] <sly> ooooooo the joys of s3 drivers odat
[04:30] <tga> iirc they don't even sell the linux nero, you must have a windows serial
[04:30] <matthew_w> janga; woot
[04:30] <mwright1> is there a nero for linux?
[04:30] <Agrajag> yes
[04:30] <Xenguy> nalioth: how do you mean?
[04:30] <odat> sly: well it says i have the a bunch of s3 drivers installed but if they aren't doing anything whats the poing
[04:30] <odat> point
[04:31] <geneo93> i need some help with tape drive
[04:31] <mwright1> anyone with a tape drive needs help
[04:31] <sly> sounds identical to my old thinkpad lappy :)
[04:31] <sly> i gaveup
[04:31] <janga> mwright1: yes but its gtk1 :(
[04:31] <nalioth> Xenguy: irssi requires a knowledge of many variables that it uses for optimal effect
[04:31] <nalioth> Xenguy: the irssi homepage has a few tricks and stuff
[04:31] <matthew_w> Alright - getting that now.
[04:32] <matthew_w> Nero linux that is.
[04:32] <mwright1> nero is gtk+
[04:32] <mwright1> whats wrong with that
[04:32] <matthew_w> On another note - what's a decent game for linux.  I don't want to go through the brain searing trouble of installing cedega just yet...
[04:32] <wastrel> i am fond of nethack
[04:32] <tga> matthew_w, enemy territory
[04:32] <Xenguy> nalioth: I'm up to the challenge, if no one is prepared to serve it on a silver platter ;-)
[04:32] <tga> go nethack!
[04:32] <chavo> enemy territory
[04:32] <wastrel> moon-buggy is amusing
[04:32] <matthew_w> lol
[04:32] <sly> frozen-bubble !!!
[04:32] <matthew_w> moon-buggy
[04:32] <matthew_w> How does nethack work?
[04:33] <chavo> frozen-bubble rocks!
[04:33] <nalioth> Xenguy: nothing the rest of us havent done (no irssi comes the way we use it)
[04:33] <geneo93> freecraft
[04:33] <tga> you push keys and it does stuff
[04:33] <wastrel> matthew_w, ever played rogue?
[04:33] <matthew_w> ... can't say I have.
[04:33] <tga> omg moon-buggy is so cool
[04:33] <Xenguy> nalioth: aye, been there indeed
[04:34] <matthew_w> It's funny - the web pages <title> is Download Nero Linux Trial Version, and in the middle of the page in big red letters it says
[04:34] <matthew_w> Important notice:
[04:34] <matthew_w> This is NOT a trial version!
[04:34] <sly> i might have to try moon buggy now
[04:34] <sly> whats name of that ball game
[04:34] <wastrel> telnet to nethack.alt.org if you want to check out nethack
[04:34] <kevogod> sly, neverball
[04:34] <sly> yeh thats the one
[04:34] <walter> is there any websties with a list of games that are ported to linux
[04:34] <sly> its 3:35am . ima play that till least 5
[04:34] <whyameye> I have Windows Media Player 6.4 and 7.0 running under Wine. Any way to add codecs to these? Also, how can I change the file associations in Wine?
[04:35] <nalioth> whyameye: to my knowledge, wmp updates itself as needed
[04:35] <whyameye> nalioth, it's not finding codecs I need to play videos off of my digital camera.
[04:35] <pepsi> ubuntu does not use inetd?
[04:36] <matthew_w> What's enemy territory like, and where do I get it?
[04:36] <nalioth> whyameye: why dont you import your videos and use a linux media player?
[04:36] <chavo> matthew_w, it started out as an addition to castle wolfestein
[04:36] <tga> nooo.. my buuuggy!
[04:37] <whyameye> nalioth, that would be fine, except I don't think anything I've found touches Google's Picasa2, so that's what I want to use for my pics. I run that under Wine. Problem is, it tries to use WMP for the videos...
[04:37] <sly> snes roms are the way forward
[04:37] <tga> pepsi, yes it does
[04:37] <matthew_w> I have so many snes roms I can't walk.
[04:37] <chavo> matthew_w, it's free and linux native
[04:37] <Serpentwolf> hi guys, how does one install java jdk on ubuntu ?
[04:37] <tga> picasa is pretty nice
[04:37] <matthew_w> chavo - and I assume widely played?
[04:37] <matthew_w> flightgear = cool
[04:37] <chavo> matthew_w, yes
[04:37] <nalioth> whyameye: i'd try to get a more modern version of wmp running
[04:37] <whyameye> nalioth, now what would be *cool* is if I could change the file associations in Wine so Picasa2 runs xine for the videos. But that seems unlikely to work...
[04:38] <whyameye> nalioth, will wine run anything newer? I tried 10.0 and couldn't get it to work...
[04:38] <Sonny_Wertzik> hello.
[04:38] <bimberi> !tell Serpentwolf about java
[04:38] <pepsi> tga, how can i get ident to work?
[04:38] <nalioth> whyameye: you might also want to give cedega-cvs a run
[04:38] <Serpentwolf> thanks
[04:38] <tga> pepsi, it should already be working.. what are you trying to do?
[04:38] <chavo> I just got done playing a little and will be playing again in  a little bit
[04:38] <bimberi> yw :)
[04:39] <pepsi> tga, get it to start when i bootup
[04:39] <pepsi> brb
[04:39] <matthew_w> What does it mean when dpkg returns "status database area is locked by another process"
[04:39] <whyameye> nalioth, what's cedega-cvs?
[04:39] <tga> doesn't inetd start by default?
[04:39] <bimberi> matthew_w: that you're running synaptic
[04:39] <matthew_w> Oh
[04:39] <matthew_w> lol
[04:39] <matthew_w> So it does
[04:39] <nalioth> whyameye: cedega is a commecial version of wine, cedega-cvs is the freely available (no support) version we can use
[04:39] <tga> long live the gpl
[04:40] <whyameye> nalioth, good to know. I'll check it out!
[04:40] <pepsi> tga, i installed the ident2 package because i couldnt figure out how else to make it work, but i have to start ident2 by hand each time i startup
[04:40] <Logi_> does anyone know how to enable AllowOverride for apache2?
[04:40] <chavo> matthew_w, http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/games/wolfensteinet/et-linux-2.60.x86.run.html
[04:40] <adoyretsamon> yeah, for tuxracer
[04:40] <adoyretsamon> hehe
[04:40] <adoyretsamon> great game
[04:40] <tga> pepsi, are you sure identd doesn't already start at bootup?
[04:40] <pepsi> yes
[04:40] <tga> pepsi, ps aux |grep inetd
[04:40] <pepsi> tga, nothing
[04:41] <Logi_> i did <Directory /var/www> \n AllowOverride all \n </Directory> and it doesn't work
[04:41] <wastrel> hmm, why do the gnome print dialogs suck so much
[04:41] <wastrel> they made them user friendly by taking out all the options and now they're useless
[04:41] <tga> pepsi, I'm thinking maybe your /etc/inetd.conf is bad or something
[04:42] <sly> gmmmmmmm
[04:42] <pepsi> tga, inetd doesnt exist
[04:42] <pepsi> shouldnt it be in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin?
[04:42] <sly> my about:plugins in firefox returns no java, but it was there just half hour ago when i was playing yahoo pool
[04:42] <tga> /usr/sbin/inetd
[04:43] <tga> the pool table ate your java
[04:43] <pepsi> tga,... right... doesnt exist... im using breezy btw :)
[04:43] <tga> pepsi, do you have an xinetd?
[04:43] <sly> yeh i got raped of my hava, from the guy who beat me
[04:43] <pepsi> no i dont
[04:43] <tga> pepsi, in any case, to make something start at bootup you use update-rc.d
[04:44] <pepsi> ok
[04:44] <tga> pepsi, update-rc.d inetd defaults
[04:44] <Logi_> anyone know?
[04:44] <weijie90> hi
[04:44] <weijie90> how do i add TTF fonts?
[04:44] <walter> when apt get downloads the files will it delete them after there installed and you dont need the archive anymore
[04:45] <matthew_w> Well
[04:45] <chavo> weijie90, mkdir ~/.fonts -> cp font.ttf ~/.fonts
[04:45] <odat> so anyone have any idea about getting the graphics chip doing what it should?
[04:45] <chavo> unless you want them system wide
[04:45] <matthew_w> Nero for linux didn't accept my Nero 5.0 deluxe key :O  which I bought a week before I switched from m$
[04:45] <matthew_w> So I feel justified in borrowing someone elses.  *cough* ...  Now where do I get enemy territory?
[04:45] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, apt-get install nvtv
[04:45] <weijie90> so will xfce or any x11 window manager like icewm detect ~/fonts?
[04:46] <nalioth> matthew_w: why use nero when k3b perfectly usable?
[04:46] <sly> nvtv dont like me either, says unsurported chip
[04:46] <tga> weijie90, that's where the X server looks, it has nothing to do with the window manager
[04:46] <nalioth> weijie90: your system will see your ~/.fonts
[04:46] <chavo> weijie90, yes, but only for you not any other users
[04:46] <weijie90> ic
[04:46] <matthew_w> DVD video burning, with menus, etc. etc.     Plus, I paid for it, and now I can't use it, so why not?  lol
[04:46] <weijie90> thanks!
[04:46] <chavo> sure
[04:46] <janga> weijie90: easier way: fonts:/// in nautilus
[04:46] <nalioth> matthew_w: if you paid, then you should call nero and ask them why it doesnt work
[04:46] <chavo> which reminds me, I'm gonna clean up my .fonts
[04:47] <matthew_w> nalioth - I know why, I bought nero 5.0 from the store up the road, it wants nero 6.0... I'm not going to buy another 40 dollar burning program x-x
[04:47] <tga> matthew_w, call nero and ask about an upgrade
[04:47] <NB_Ubuntu> tga, it says it can't find the package nvtv
[04:47] <chavo> cool there's a fonts:/ in konqueror also
[04:47] <vu> What filesystem is this: W95 Ext'd (LBA)?
[04:47] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, it's probably in the universe repository
[04:48] <nalioth> matthew_w: then dvdauthor + k3b may be for you
[04:48] <runelind> probably been asked a million time, but is the new gnome in ubuntu yet?
[04:48] <chavo> but browsing .fonts with konq gives you thumbnails
[04:48] <daggie> Heh just about to ask meself runelind
[04:48] <paul_> hello ya'll
[04:48] <tga> vu, fat32 maybe
[04:48] <matthew_w> nalioth - I can't for the life of me figure out dvdauthor ... :(
[04:48] <ficusplanet> runelind, In Breezy, yes.  The preview will be out tomorrow.
[04:48] <matthew_w> I have graveman, but it doesn't seem to do DVD videos.
[04:48] <runelind> ficusplanet: oh the agonizing wait!
[04:48] <IcemanV9> runelind, daggie: million times yes ;)
[04:49] <tga> how traumatic will upgrading to breezy be when it comes out?
[04:49] <paul_> how do I load video on ubuntu
[04:49] <daggie> icemanv9, heh no joke. Just curious if it is worth upgrading to the new gnome. Or something simply to be left to a clean install.
[04:50] <ficusplanet> runelind, You can use it right now if you're that anxious.  I've been using Breezy for a few weeks without issue.
[04:50] <geneo93> gnome 2.12 is in breezy
[04:50] <vu> tga,   Hmm...I compiled the kernel with ntfs and vfat support. It does not somehow recognise: --> mount: unknown filesystem type 'vfat32'
[04:50] <tga> imho it's not worth messing up your system just to get the new gnome 2 days early
[04:50] <tga> vu, there is no vfat32.. check your /etc/fstab
[04:50] <IcemanV9> daggie: if you see the video tour of gnome 2.12, then you'll LOVE it! :)
[04:50] <daggie> vu, I thought something had to be either vfat or fat32
[04:50] <geneo93> fat32
[04:50] <daggie> icemanv9, then to google I go.
[04:50] <wastrel> IcemanV9, are the print dialogs less sucky?
[04:51] <regeya> gnome2, now with fewer features?
[04:51] <IcemanV9> er, daggie, not video .. very nice tour
[04:51] <ngmlinux_> can someone help me set up an apt-get repository
[04:51] <NB_Ubuntu> tga, I tried updateing after enabling universe, however it's not able to find a package
[04:51] <IcemanV9> sorry. i was workin' on the video here. heh
[04:51] <occy> anyone here know about wireless security stuff?  And don't mind helping me with securing my setup?
[04:51] <matthew_w> Is there any way to write DVD video with chapter selection etc. with graveman and dvdauthor?
[04:51] <daggie> icemanv9, yeah saw that. looks good. I hope nautilous is less sucky now.
[04:51] <occy> Or have a "Wireless for Dummies" howto link somewhere?
[04:51] <IcemanV9> wastrel: i don't remember about the print part
[04:51] <vu> daggie,  Haha nice one wait lemme c
[04:52] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, Section: universe/admin
[04:52] <jcd1006> how do you add the extentions on to firefox?
[04:52] <ngmlinux_> wireless is not really supported on ubuntu
[04:52] <runelind> wireless is a fad anyways
[04:52] <occy> ngmlinux_, heh, I'm using wireless right now.
[04:52] <runelind> people don't want to be free from wires
[04:52] <daggie> wireless? I am using it right now.
[04:52] <runelind> they want to be tethered down and restricted
[04:52] <IcemanV9> ngmlinux_: yes it is ... only if you check the wiki page for supported wifi cards
[04:52] <occy> anyway...
[04:52] <ngmlinux_> yeah exactly "supporte dcards'
[04:52] <regeya> someday regular gcc will have regular objective-c++.  then we can get apps like camino going.
[04:53] <ngmlinux_> anyone??
[04:53] <ngmlinux_> apt-get ?
[04:53] <occy> I need to find a "Wireless networking security for Moron's howto" or some sort of thing.
[04:53] <IcemanV9> mine is dwl-g650
[04:53] <ngmlinux_> anyone have a year or two experience wiht apt-get?
[04:53] <regeya> dude, it's on my resume, ngmlinux_
[04:53] <kevogod> apt-get rules.
[04:53] <NB_Ubuntu> tga, what am I suppost to change now? I'm kind of a newbie to linux
[04:53] <ngmlinux_> regeya, can you pm me for a minutes
[04:53] <ngmlinux_> i have some apt-get questions
[04:53] <regeya> just ask your question in-channel ngmlinux_
[04:54] <ngmlinux_> i just had having to scroll back and fourth regeya
[04:54] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, if you have the universe repository added to your list and you update you should be able to get nvtv
[04:54] <ngmlinux_> but alright,
[04:54] <runelind> oh the slowness of the breezy download
[04:54] <regeya> muh muh muh meh mih moh muh.
[04:54] <tga> Nautilus now sports a spatial tree file view, popularised in the original Apple Macintosh operating systems
[04:54] <ngmlinux_> regeya: go to http://www.scratchbox.org/download/files/sbox-releases/1.0/doc/installdoc.html#AEN32
[04:54] <tga> w00t, new revolutionary spatialness popularised in.. the original Mac?
[04:54] <ngmlinux_> and look at 2.2.1
[04:54] <ngmlinux_> regeya
[04:55] <NB_Ubuntu> tga, when I try to update it complains about a file missing
[04:55] <regeya> rofflecopters
[04:55] <jcd1006> can anyone tell me how to download and install extentions in firefox?
[04:55] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, what file?
[04:55] <ngmlinux_> regeya, it says add deb http://scratchbox.org/debian ./
[04:55] <NB_Ubuntu> tga, sources.list
[04:55] <ngmlinux_> to sources.list
[04:55] <ngmlinux_> regeya
[04:55] <daggie> tga, I am more happy with the ``over 200 bug fixes''
[04:56] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, are you running hoary? sounds like there's something wrong with your apt
[04:56] <ngmlinux_> regeya, i have AMD64 not i386, i know where the AMD64 repository is, but not how ot set it to work, i get an error when I apt-get install scratchbox and  i don't know how to fix it
[04:56] <IcemanV9> oy! breezy-livecd is little bit larger than 650mb now :(
[04:56] <regeya> oi.  I dinnae laddie
[04:56] <daggie> Wow... did they really dump firefox as default browser?
[04:57] <wastrel> they did that a while ago
[04:57] <regeya> no way daggie...seriously?
[04:57] <ngmlinux_> regeya, do you think that is something you might be able to help wiht?
[04:57] <wastrel> for that gnome browser
[04:57] <regeya> oi.  i dinnae laddie ngmlinux_
[04:57] <IcemanV9> daggie: what's the default browser now?
[04:57] <NB_Ubuntu> tga, I'm running hoary
[04:57] <ngmlinux_> regeya: ?
[04:57] <regeya> don't know ngmlinux_, sorry
[04:58] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, what do you get when you run `sudo apt-get update` in a terminal?
[04:58] <daggie> icemanv9,regeya, uhh epiphany??
[04:58] <ngmlinux_> does anyone else know how ot use apt-get?
[04:58] <luckyaba> im installing ubuntu on another compter and am getting a base system error from bootstrap
[04:58] <luckyaba> any ideas?
[04:58] <matthew_w> Why is it that when I copy my futurama season 1 disc, it only uses 1.4 gb.. when theres like 4.7 on a DVD?  Is that a problem w/ nero?
[04:58] <NB_Ubuntu> ok, I'm going to paste exactly what I get
[04:58] <NB_Ubuntu> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages
[04:58] <NB_Ubuntu>   302 Moved [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[04:58] <NB_Ubuntu> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  302 Moved [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[04:58] <daggie> regeya, I have never heard of it. <3 firefox
[04:58] <CCFIEL> hello. what is lighter browser firefox or opera?
[04:59] <ngmlinux_> root@localhost:~/downloaded-packages# apt-get install scratchbox-core
[04:59] <ngmlinux_> Reading package lists... Done
[04:59] <ngmlinux_> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:59] <ngmlinux_> E: Couldn't find package scratchbox-core
[04:59] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, sounds like there's a problem with your mirror
[04:59] <regeya> epiphany is the official gnome web browser
[04:59] <IcemanV9> yea, epiphany is the default web browser for the gnome .. guess they'll use it then
[04:59] <Will^Draven> <3 firefox
[04:59] <ngmlinux_> E: Couldn't find package scratchbox-core
[04:59] <ngmlinux_> E: Couldn't find package scratchbox-core
[04:59] <nalioth> ngmlinux_: dont paste in here, use #flood or a pastebin from the /topic
[04:59] <yonkeltron> hi guys i am having some trouble burning CDs with k3b and cdrecord
[04:59] <tomasino> anybody there?
[04:59] <ngmlinux_> E: Couldn't find package scratchbox-core
[05:00] <nalioth> NB_Ubuntu: dont paste in here, use #flood or a pastebin from the /topic
[05:00] <jcd1006> can someone please let me know how to install the extensions on firefox...when i go to the site and try it that way it says that i have to have an up to date version, its the most recent that ubuntu would download, anyone able to help?
[05:00] <regeya> E: I don't like spam
[05:00] <Logi_> anyone here good with apache?
[05:00] <ngmlinux_> can some one please explain apt-get to me?
[05:00] <tomasino> Can anyone help with seting up a file share between a Sin XP and Ubuntu????
[05:00] <tga> Logi_, try #apache
[05:00] <daggie> Logi_, #apache will most likely be your best bet.
[05:00] <nalioth> !tell ngmlinux_ about synaptic
[05:00] <ngmlinux_> i've been trying to figure it out for a few days
[05:00] <Logi_> tga / daggie no one is answering
[05:00] <tomasino> Win Xp and Ubuntu
[05:01] <ngmlinux_> !tell nalioth synapic does not support the app i want ot install
[05:01] <tomasino> Apache you say?
[05:01] <tga> NB_Ubuntu, try replacing 'us' with 'ca' in your /etc/apt/sources.list and then update
[05:01] <nalioth> ngmlinux_: what exactly do you want to do/install?
[05:01] <tomasino> Wasn't it supposed to be Samba??
[05:01] <froggy25> how do you install pearpc
[05:01] <froggy25> and how do you get it to work
[05:01] <ngmlinux_> nalioth, can you pm me where it's eaiser to read?
[05:01] <daggie> logi_, just supply a detailed description of the problem. They will get back to you.
[05:01] <ngmlinux_> this text moves too fast
[05:01] <froggy25> i have mac os x 10.4 tiger
[05:01] <froggy25> and i want to try it out on here
[05:02] <froggy25> but i dont know what to do to get started
[05:02] <dabaR> froggy25: well, its in official repositories, so you can use your install program to install it. How it works, I have no clue, I just heard of it for the first time now.
[05:02] <sinned> anyone here run synergy?
[05:02] <tga> everbody wait until ngmlinux_'s done reading, mmkay?
[05:02] <tga> sinned, no luck with synergys?
[05:02] <brentdax> I have an Ubuntu laptop (x86) and an Ubuntu desktop (AMD64).  Can I get sound on the laptop to play through the desktop's speakers, preferably with an easy way to turn this off when I'm not near my desktop?  (I think all the sound apps I care about play nicely with esd.)
[05:02] <sinned> I don't get how to setup the config file
[05:02] <sinned> Like what to put
[05:03] <tga> sinned, paste your synergys.conf in #flood
[05:03] <matthew_w> Ok here's a good question...
[05:03] <sinned> I don't have one yet
[05:03] <sinned> I'm trying to write one
[05:03] <matthew_w> How in the name of GOD do I make a DVD menu?  Like.. something that shows the chapters.
[05:03] <sinned> bUt don't know what to include
[05:03] <tga> sinned, I'll take a look
[05:03] <sinned> I was looking for like a sample config
[05:03] <sinned> or if someone had one that could show me
[05:03] <tga> I don't have mine handy
[05:03] <sinned> :(
[05:04] <IcemanV9> on which player, matthew_w ??
[05:05] <IcemanV9> try to right-click on the screen/picture
[05:05] <tga> sinned, synergys.conf looks really easy
[05:05] <jcd1006> anyone in here know much about unix?
[05:05] <matthew_w> IcemanV9;  I'm using Nero for Linux... I just need to create that menu like.. you know "select episode" kinda stuff
[05:05] <tga> sinned, I'll give you a hand in private if you want
[05:05] <sinned> k
[05:05] <tga> jcd1006, what's that?
[05:06] <sly> lol @ tga :)
[05:06] <hmrocha> hello
[05:06] <chavo> sinned, I paste my .synergy.conf in #flood
[05:06] <sly> im still chasing that pool table for my java back
[05:06] <sinned> post again chavo
[05:06] <hmrocha> i think i'll have a lot of trouble with ubuntu...
[05:06] <IcemanV9> oh! burn dvd stuff. it is over my head since i don't own dvd-burner. sorry.
[05:06] <nalioth> tritium: really? unix sounds like my old housemaids name
[05:06] <hmrocha> ...do you know how to change the settings for the audio and video groups?
[05:06] <hmrocha> i mean...
[05:06] <chavo> there
[05:06] <IcemanV9> thought you were talking about playing DVD movie
[05:07] <tga> hmrocha, why would you want to change them?
[05:07] <matthew_w> hehe
[05:07] <matthew_w> it's ok
[05:07] <hmrocha> tga, all my users are only available through AD
[05:07] <tritium> nalioth, was your main a castrated man?
[05:07] <tritium> s/main/maid
[05:07] <tga> euh, AD
[05:07] <nalioth> ah, well eunice is close to unix
[05:07] <Vaske_Car> How to enlarge windows??? I use high resolution and all windows are small..   ???
[05:07] <hmrocha> they belong to the group "students"
[05:08] <chavo> synergy is awesome, I use it on Windows and Linux on both computers
[05:08] <hmrocha> and i want them to be able to listen to mp3 and watch videos
[05:08] <tga> yeah, the clipboard sharing is cool
[05:08] <hmrocha> but since they're not in the audio/video groups, they can't
[05:08] <Kyral> Vaske_Car, the same way you do in Windows..
[05:08] <jcd1006> how do you install programs, such as firefox 1.06?
[05:09] <tritium> bimberi, :)
[05:09] <hmrocha> i want to change system settings to say that all users in "students" are the ones that can access audio
[05:09] <Madpilot> !tell jcd1006 about synaptic
[05:09] <hmrocha> something like that
[05:09] <Kyral> ubotu tell jcd1006 about repos
[05:09] <bimberi> tritium: might only be you and me though :)
[05:09] <tga> hmm can you add a group to another group?
[05:09] <hmrocha> tga, not possible in unix
[05:09] <tritium> bimberi, you never know...
[05:09] <tga> thought so
[05:10] <Vaske_Car> Kyral: its not like in Windows...
[05:10] <Vaske_Car> or i dont see it
[05:10] <hmrocha> tga, do me a favor please...
[05:10] <hmrocha> tga, ls -l /dev/dsp
[05:10] <Sly-Sleep> takecare
[05:10] <tga> hmrocha, you could just chown students /dev/<sound stuff>
[05:10] <sn0n> allo all
[05:10] <hmrocha> tga, give me the output please (i don't have a sound card here
[05:10] <tga> crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2005-09-07 17:05 /dev/dsp
[05:10] <hmrocha> tga, that's what i was thinking about :)
[05:10] <tga> if you can't bring the students to the group
[05:11] <tga> ..bring the group to the students
[05:11] <tga> or something
[05:11] <sn0n> anyone here a firefox pro ?
[05:11] <hmrocha> tga, great!!! chown root:students /dev/dsp should work
[05:11] <tga> yep
[05:11] <hmrocha> what about video?
[05:11] <hmrocha> what's the device?
[05:12] <tga> hmm.. I don't think there's a video device
[05:12] <hmrocha> tga, strange, there's a video group
[05:13] <tritium> yep
[05:13] <jcd1006> ok, now that i have firefox 1.06 installed how do i do the extensions?
[05:14] <nalioth> jcd1006: they should install themselves from mozilla's extension page
[05:14] <tga> hmrocha, I've got /dev/agpart, raw1394 and card0 under video
[05:14] <Vaske_Car> awww niceee  resolution 1400by1050 refresha rate 85Hz  :)
[05:14] <hmrocha> tga, ok, thanks very much, i'll write that down
[05:15] <tga> hmrocha, I think you only need to be in group video if you do 3d accel, but I might be wrong
[05:15] <tritium> that's right, tga
[05:15] <sn0n> how do i become a package maintainer ?
[05:15] <hmrocha> tga, i do 3d accel, students want cool screensavers
[05:15] <sn0n> there are a few things i believe should be in , but arent
[05:15] <hmrocha> :)
[05:15] <emtrix> following a string from ubuntu support-forum, tells me to cmd in terminal: "sudo m-a".. m-a?? this command gives me this: "sudo: m-a: command not found"
[05:16] <nalioth> sn0n: read the wiki or ask in #ubuntu-motu
[05:16] <sn0n> motu ?
[05:16] <linner> hey ya'll... how's it hangin'?
[05:17] <adoyretsamon> breezy
[05:17] <jcd1006> nalioth: it says that i appear to be using firefox in ubuntu and that he had a bug that has been fixed but i have to do "Setting general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4 in about:config seems to let me access addons.mozilla.org"  which i don't know how to do
[05:17] <bimberi> sn0n: masters of the universe :)
[05:17] <adoyretsamon> linner, seems breezy to me
[05:17] <sn0n> mmm
[05:17] <Vaske_Car> does anybody know how to setup player to play streams when I click on the link?
[05:17] <nalioth> jcd1006: hang on a minute
[05:17] <Vaske_Car> link*
[05:17] <jcd1006> ok, thanks
[05:17] <jcd1006> nalioth: ok, thanks
[05:17] <sn0n> but i'd like my packages to have the pretty ubunut logo and in the main repo's
[05:17] <sn0n> not the ones people have to 'add'
[05:18] <sn0n> its just silly how a 'desktop' based distro has apache, but no RSS Readers.. ya kno..
[05:18] <Madpilot> sn0n: isn't Blam in Hoary?
[05:18] <nalioth> jcd1006: in your firefox address bar, paste "about:config" and find the line you just pasted to me (the vendorSub part). change that value to 1.0.4
[05:19] <kevogod> I use Sage in Firefox
[05:19] <scanwinder> when i try to setup wine, it says its detected its been run as super user...................but thats when i run it as normal user..............anyone else come across this?
[05:19] <sn0n> isnt blam mono based ?
[05:19] <NoHope> Gnome 2.12 is released!
[05:19] <sn0n> aka : blam wouldnt be
[05:19] <NoHope> Do you know when will it be in repos?
[05:19] <sn0n> NoHope, its already in breezy im sure
[05:20] <geneo93> NoHope:  its in breezy
[05:20] <Madpilot> sn0n: Blam is in Universe; same repo as Apache/Apache2, FWIW...
[05:20] <NoHope> geneo93, sn0n, no Hoary? Is it better to wait stable Breezy?
[05:20] <NB_Ubuntu> so where should I point sources.list to try to get nvtv to download properly?
[05:20] <froggy25> how do you set up pearpc
[05:20] <jcd1006> nalioth:  it gave me "XML Parsing Error: syntax error
[05:20] <jcd1006> Location: jar:resource:///chrome/toolkit.jar!/content/global/config.xul Line Number 1, Column 7:"
[05:20] <geneo93> NoHope:  i have breezy here and its quite stable for me
[05:20] <sn0n> but what im sayin.. is that a regular user shouldn't have to 'add' repos.. things like Liferea and other general use things should be able to be added without 'hacking at configs'
[05:20] <nalioth> jcd1006: just "about:config" without the quote marks
[05:20] <NoHope> geneo93, how to download it? apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:21] <jcd1006> nalioth: thats what i did
[05:21] <ficusplanet> sn0n, In Breezy, universe and multiverse are automatically added if you try to install an app from them in gnome-app-install.
[05:21] <geneo93> NoHope:  change repos to breezy
[05:21] <sn0n> ahh..
[05:21] <ficusplanet> sn0n, And in hoary, you can add the repos in synaptic.
[05:21] <ficusplanet> (by just checking a few boxes)
[05:21] <nalioth> jcd1006: then i'm lost at this point
[05:21] <thoreauputic> sn0n: canonical can't be expected to support 16 000 or so packages
[05:21] <sn0n> ficusplanet, i know you can add it.. but it should be 'automagically' dont
[05:21] <sn0n> done*
[05:22] <sn0n> thoreauputic, thats why i asked how to become a maintainer
[05:22] <NoHope> geneo93, just s/hoary/breezy in sources.list?
[05:22] <thoreauputic> sn0n: fair enough :)
[05:22] <jcd1006> nalioth: ok, well thanks for trying
[05:22] <jcd1006> can anyone help me with firefox extensions?
[05:22] <linner> hey ya'll
[05:22] <sn0n> i'll gladly keep liferea updated, if it gets added to the main repo's like things like it should be
[05:22] <linner> how goes it?
[05:22] <geneo93> NoHope:  that should work also
[05:23] <NoHope> geneo93, and what?
[05:23] <wickedpuppy> anyone ever got error while booting like "Kernel Panic , init not found" ??? I passed init=/init to kernel but still having this error
[05:23] <linner> Thoreauputic:  your help last night allowed me to do my first install and for that I wanted to tell you how greatful I really am... thank you!
[05:23] <NoHope> geneo93, will apt-get upgrade work?
[05:23] <tritium> thoreauputic rocks
[05:23] <linner> why yes he does
[05:23] <thoreauputic> linner: great! You're welcome :)
[05:23] <wickedpuppy> NoHope, isn't it apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[05:23] <linner> :)
[05:23] <NoHope> wickedpuppy, oh yap. thx.
[05:23] <geneo93> NoHope:  just do apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:23] <wickedpuppy> :P
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> I cant get RealPlayer....  windsor@zmaj:~$ sudo apt-get install realplayer
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> Password:
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> Reading package lists... Done
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> E: Couldn't find package realplayer
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> windsor@zmaj:~$
[05:24] <sn0n> Vaske_Car, look for Helix
[05:24] <sn0n> Vaske_Car, or HelixPlayer
[05:24] <NoHope> wickedpuppy, geneo93, Ubuntu is wonderful. I don't need to format my partition again ;) thx.
[05:24] <regeya> wait wait wait...clearlooks is listed as a new gnome feature?
[05:24] <dabaR> Vaske_Car: youre serbian, right?
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> can it play streams?
[05:24] <Vaske_Car> yes
[05:24] <Madpilot> !tell Vaske_Car about repos
[05:24] <wickedpuppy> haaaa
[05:25] <sn0n> Vaske_Car, Helixplayer is the RealPlayer's linux / unix community project
[05:25] <dabaR> cool, Im originally from beograd, and then I lived in Zagreb for a while.
[05:25] <thoreauputic> oops
[05:25] <sn0n> Vaske_Car, so.. yes
[05:25] <Vaske_Car> just a sec
[05:25] <regeya> and a feature borrowed from mac classic is a great new feature?
[05:25] <sn0n> helixcommunity.org i believe
[05:25] <scanwinder> why does WineSetupTk say its been run as superuser when ive run it as normal user???
[05:25] <sn0n> yeah
[05:25] <sn0n> https://helixcommunity.org/
[05:26] <geneo93> thoreauputic:  how can i use my tape drive dmesg  says its there but  lsmod doesn't
[05:26] <dabaR> scanwinder: cause you are really a superuser, and you dont even know it/are too modest...
[05:26] <scanwinder> dabaR: i definantley did it as a normal user
[05:27] <crimsun> ngmlinux_: please paste the entire error message onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:27] <crimsun> walter: cat /proc/asound/version
[05:27] <walter> wb
[05:28] <thoreauputic> geneo93: sorry - never used a tape drive in my life :|
[05:28] <walter> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.8.
[05:28] <walter> Compiled on Sep  8 2005 for kernel 2.6.10-5-386.
[05:28] <sn0n> thoreauputic, never?
[05:28] <thoreauputic> sn0n: nope
[05:28] <sn0n> thoreauputic, man.. i was using them ina 6th grade class.. back in like 93ish..
[05:29] <sn0n> but even then they were a lil dated
[05:29] <sn0n> had some fun games thou.. i tell ya..
[05:29] <crimsun> walter: please paste the contents of /proc/asound onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:29] <thoreauputic> sn0n: I'm not an IT person - using linux for a few years is all
[05:29] <sn0n> unless you mean the 'current' backup tape drives
[05:29] <sn0n> i used them in 6th grade to play games.. LoL.. i was a teachers pet..:-D
[05:30] <NoHope> some problem to dist-upgrade with X opened and running?
[05:30] <scanwinder> can you order ubuntu breezy cd's yet?
[05:30] <geneo93> sn0n:  i talking about a seagate 8 gig drive
[05:30] <scanwinder> or is the order thing just hoary?
[05:30] <sn0n> NoHope, there will be a couple panel errors.. but nothing bad
[05:30] <thoreauputic> sn0n: I have , however, used punch cards ;-)
[05:30] <NoHope> sn0n,  good, thx.
[05:31] <walter> it doesnt exist that folder
[05:31] <geneo93> thoreauputic:  you mean tabulator cards
[05:31] <phayze2> does anyone know how to use SSH?
[05:31] <crimsun> walter: /proc/asound has many contents
[05:31] <crimsun> phayze2: ssh user@host
[05:31] <scanwinder> when you use the shipit thing on the ubuntu website, will that send out hoary or breezy cd's
[05:31] <scanwinder> ?
[05:32] <crimsun> scanwinder: breezy if you order after breezy's release
[05:32] <thoreauputic> geneo93: on an IBM mainframe at university long ago - IBM 360 from memory
[05:32] <phayze2> crimsun: i'm already on my university's server, i just want to know how to copy my file onto my user account at the university's server
[05:32] <phayze2> er if that makes sense
[05:32] <matthew_w> How can I get ubuntu to accept libc6 2.3.2.ds1-21 and libwxgtk <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[05:32] <scanwinder> crimsun: when is breezy going to be released?
[05:32] <crimsun> phayze2: not really, you need to clarify where your file resides
[05:32] <msfrank> scanwinder: no breezy for another month
[05:32] <crimsun> scanwinder: october
[05:32] <scanwinder> crimsun: thanks
[05:32] <crimsun> matthew_w: you don't, because that will break things
[05:32] <geneo93> oct 13th
[05:33] <matthew_w> crimsun; err... well, how do I get this program to install - dependencies and whatnot?
[05:33] <crimsun> phayze2: please keep in-channel
[05:33] <NB_Ubuntu> I didn't see if anyone responded to my question about a good deb line for hoary universe..
[05:33] <crimsun> NB_Ubuntu: same line as for main but add universe
[05:34] <phayze2> k
[05:34] <matthew_w> crimsun; it's DVDStyler
[05:34] <crimsun> matthew_w: and from where are you attempting to install it?
[05:34] <NB_Ubuntu> crimsun, the only one it has that isn't commented out is to get it from the cdrom
[05:34] <flankk> I have a box here where the audio chipset doesn't work, and wasn't detected.  I have tried compiling alsa in the past to no avail.  The chipset is onboard and not faulty.  The chip is old, not PnP compatible, and there is no related options in the BIOS.  Help?
[05:35] <matthew_w> crimsun; it's a .deb.  The problem is ubuntu apparently doesn't like it...
[05:35] <msfrank> flankk: what is the chipset?
[05:36] <crimsun> NB_Ubuntu: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[05:36] <daveb_> Hello, I accidentally put an error into my sudoers file and can no longer use the sudo commands. Is there a way I can fix this and not have to reinstall?
[05:36] <bimberi> daveb_: yes, you have to boot into recovery mode and edit the sudoers file from there
[05:36] <thoreauputic> daveb_: boot in recovery mode and run "visudo"
[05:36] <crimsun> matthew_w: that's because dvdstyler was not compiled for your Ubuntu version
[05:36] <flankk> msfrank, I don't know and lspci does not detect it.
[05:36] <phayze2> crimsun: i telnetted to heart.cecs.csulb.edu and used SSH to log onto one of the machines called ecs306mac195.  i want to copy a file from my computer, specifically chapter1question1.cc into the home folder of "jguevarr" (my username on the remote machine)..
[05:37] <thoreauputic> daveb_: but read man sudoers first :)
[05:37] <daveb_> Okay, I will try, thanks.
[05:37] <matthew_w> crimsun; clearly.  I think I'll use QDvdauthor from Marillat.
[05:37] <Vaske_Car> in what folder is installed Helix by default?
[05:38] <crimsun> phayze2: on your home computer, scp chapter1question1.cc jguevarr@ecs306mac195.cecs.csulb.edu:.
[05:38] <msfrank> flankk: hrmm.. do you know any other information about the motherboard?  what does lspci say the host bridge is?  manufacturer?  model?
[05:38] <crimsun> phayze2: the trailing '.' is important
[05:38] <chris> could anyone in here help me with ubuntu?
[05:38] <murtaugh> hey are there debs out for gnome 2.12?
[05:38] <flankk> msfrank, Intel Corp. 440LX/EX
[05:39] <msfrank> murtaugh: in breezy
[05:39] <murtaugh> no hoary huh...
[05:39] <thoreauputic> !tell chris about ask
[05:39] <crimsun> walter: have you pasted the contents?
[05:39] <murtaugh> how do I use ask?
[05:39] <walter> crabstic,  i posted an ls of the directory
[05:39] <chris> could someone help me fix the resolution? Its at like 640x340 and it says that I can't change it..
[05:39] <geneo93> sn0n:  this is lsmod ide_tape               39184  0
[05:39] <geneo93> and dmesg [4294713.945000]  ide-tape: hdd <-> ht0: Seagate STT8000A rev 5.51
[05:39] <walter> crimsun, i mean
[05:39] <grimdeath> can anyone recommend a good tutorial for getting my ati radeon 9800 pro video card working? 3d render and such
[05:39] <crimsun> walter: no, I need to see the contents of all the files in /proc/asound
[05:39] <flankk> msfrank, Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA
[05:39] <thoreauputic> !fixres
[05:39] <ubotu> from memory, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:39] <grimdeath> updating drivers*
[05:39] <Madpilot> !tell grimdeath about ati
[05:40] <flankk> msfrank, it is on the ISA bus..
[05:40] <chris> !fixres
[05:40] <walter> I dont know how to do that
[05:40] <NB_Ubuntu> gah... still error in connecting for updates
[05:40] <crimsun> flankk: do you have pcmcia-cs installed? You need the lspnp utility.
[05:40] <msfrank> flankk: mm, this could be difficult
[05:40] <murtaugh> is anyone here running breezy? last I heard X was broken
[05:41] <geneo93> i am
[05:41] <tritium> murtaugh, that was some time ago
[05:41] <flankk> crimsun, I've tried that utility before, it detected something on ISA.. but it was difficult to use..
[05:41] <crimsun> walter: find /proc/asound -exec cat '{}' ';'
[05:41] <geneo93> nvidia driver 7467
[05:41] <murtaugh> upgrading to breezy is just a matter of changing the apt repository right
[05:41] <crimsun> MrNaughty: X Window System in Breezy works fine here (915)
[05:41] <crimsun> MrNaughty: sorry
[05:41] <crimsun> murtaugh: X Window System in Breezy works fine here (915)
[05:41] <NB_Ubuntu> hm... I can browse to it in mozilla
[05:42] <NB_Ubuntu> bbiab
[05:42] <wickedpuppy> murtaugh, mine was broken when i did dist-upgrade ... but its solvable
[05:42] <murtaugh> hmm ok i'll give it a try on my test box, thanks guys
[05:43] <tga> is dasher usable? with ubuntu?
[05:43] <walter> done
[05:43] <Vexir> I just tried to install ubuntu, and first of all, it couldnt detect a wireless network for some reason, and second, i assume this is cuz i burnt a bad CD, it missed a lot of files and ended up having to abort installation... anyone know how I can get the wireless to get fixed?
[05:43] <phayze2> crimsun: it says no such file or directory
[05:43] <murtaugh> oh one more question :)  is inotify enabled in breezy?
[05:43] <Vaske_Car> I installed HelixPlayer but it still can not play streams... do I have to do any package installation for streams??
[05:43] <Vaske_Car> this is the link: http://www.di.fm/mp3/trance.pls
[05:43] <flankk> crimsun, I'm installing the package now.
[05:43] <crimsun> phayze2: chapter1question1.cc needs to be in the current directory, or you need to provide the full path to it
[05:44] <crimsun> murtaugh: yes
[05:44] <murtaugh> crimsun: thanks
[05:44] <msfrank> flankk: i hate to say it, you might just want to go out and pick up a cheapo pci audio card.. support for ISA hardware is going the way of the dodo
[05:45] <flankk> msfrank, this isn't my box.  I'm willing to move my buddy over to linux, but not to buy him hardware :|
[05:45] <crimsun> flankk: please install the pcmcia-cs package, then execute the ''lspnp'' utility from a terminal
[05:45] <FR500> hello
[05:45] <daveb_> That worked perfectly, thank you! :)
[05:45] <msfrank> flankk: haha
[05:45] <weijie90> hi
[05:45] <FR500> frankly speaking, do you think OO.org spreadsheet can compete with excel?
[05:45] <weijie90> how do i make a program run automatically when i login?
[05:45] <Vexir> I just tried to install ubuntu, and first of all, it couldnt detect a wireless network for some reason, and second, i assume this is cuz i burnt a bad CD, it missed a lot of files and ended up having to abort installation... anyone know how I can get the wireless to get fixed?
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> Vexir, get a good burn and install without problems ?
[05:46] <tritium> weijie90, have you saved your session on logout?
[05:46] <weijie90> huh?
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> then if you still got problems , we will see how we can help you
[05:46] <codenut> Vexir, you can use a ndiswrapper, or comply with the compatible hardware list.
[05:46] <wickedpuppy> on my toshiba satellite 1200 , its fine
[05:46] <weijie90> i just want to run a command automatically on startup
[05:47] <tga> weijie90, what command is that?
[05:47] <weijie90> like gaim or eciadsl-start
[05:47] <codenut> I complied with the list and mine works fine
[05:47] <weijie90> im using xfce
[05:47] <codenut> I am using the card now.
[05:47] <tritium> I don't know about xfce
[05:47] <Vexir> codenut: Well I have a DWL-G520 dlink, and it can detect the card fine, just not the connection itself.
[05:47] <benplaut> i still can't find any diff between Gnoppix and Ubuntu, other than that Gnoppix can be installed to HDD from the liveCD
[05:47] <tga> weijie90, add it to .xsession
[05:47] <phayze2> crimsun: i've typed "scp /home/john/chapter1question2.cc jguevarr@ecs306mac195.cecs.csulb.edu:." and it still gives me the same error message
[05:47] <weijie90> .xsession?
[05:47] <weijie90> hmm
[05:47] <phayze2> and the file is in /home/john
[05:47] <Madpilot> benplaut: Ubuntu is brown ;)
[05:47] <tritium> benplaut, I believe gnoppix started basing off of ubuntu
[05:48] <tga> $HOME/.xsession should get executed when you start X
[05:48] <benplaut> Madpilot, true... truw :P
[05:48] <tga> and by the way, that's not really startup, it's X startup
[05:48] <crimsun> phayze2: where is chapter1question2.cc?
[05:48] <benplaut> tritium, yeah... and almost no diff
[05:48] <phayze2> crimsun: /home/john/
[05:48] <communico> hey, does anyone know anything about settings up raids?
[05:48] <weijie90> is .xsession in ~/.xession?
[05:48] <tga> yes, it's ~/.xsession
[05:49] <weijie90> thanks!
[05:49] <kevogod> I wish Ubuntu used Clearlooks for the Window Border as the default
[05:49] <whyameye> what is Clearlooks?
[05:49] <tritium> kevogod, breezy ships with clearlooks theme
[05:49] <tga> the new gnome uses clearlooks so I guess it will
[05:49] <tritium> it's not default, but you can use it
[05:49] <crimsun> phayze2: and I presume you have write perms in your home dir on ecs306mac195?
[05:50] <Vaske_Car> What to install to be able to listen online radio?
[05:50] <RedGhost> i like glider
[05:50] <RedGhost> -_-
[05:50] <kevogod> whyameye, It is the default GNOME skin
[05:50] <weijie90> can gaim be launched through the command line?
[05:50] <Vexir> Does anyone know why my Dlink DWL-G520 is detected fine by Ubuntu but wont find a connection? (wireless card)
[05:50] <crimsun> weijie90: sure, 'gaim'
[05:50] <FR500> Vaske_Car: streamtuner
[05:50] <weijie90> thanks
[05:50] <tga> weijie90, yes, but it does not work in the console
[05:50] <sepmike> does anyone know if you are using vncviewer how to minimized that terminal session ?  that is sitting at a ubuntu machine acting as the client
[05:50] <kevogod> whyameye, as of late
[05:50] <phayze2> my instructor said we can, but we cannot run programs once they are written to their server
[05:50] <weijie90> it just opens the window thingy rite?
[05:50] <FR500> is open office 2 very different from 1?
[05:51] <Madpilot> !tell Vexir about wireless
[05:51] <RedGhost> it launches the application the same way as the start menu
[05:51] <sepmike> -fullscreen
[05:51] <crimsun> phayze2: try specifying ~/. instead of just .
[05:51] <tga> FR500, shouldn't be
[05:51] <kevogod> FR500, It is better. There, now try it.
[05:51] <weijie90> FR500: yes... its much betyter
[05:51] <tga> FR500, just better than the latest 1.x
[05:51] <Vexir> Does anyone know why my Dlink DWL-G520 is detected fine by Ubuntu but wont find a connection? (wireless card)
[05:51] <crimsun> though . should suffice
[05:51] <crimsun> walter: sec
[05:51] <weijie90> thanks everyone
[05:51] <FR500> better like faster or with more features?
[05:51] <crimsun> Vexir: is WEP/WPA/2 enabled on the AP?
[05:51] <tga> FR500, better like fewer bugs
[05:51] <walter> np
[05:52] <phayze2> crimsun: /home/john/chapter1question2.cc: No such file or directory
[05:52] <codenut> Vexir: could it be the data rate? like 4X. I have run into that before with DLINK NICS
[05:52] <tga> FR500, possibly faster
[05:52] <FR500> tga: what is keeping most of my friends going to linux is that, for example, i don't know if it's even possible to do pivot tables in OO
[05:52] <kevogod> Better as in a real contender for MSOffice
[05:52] <crimsun> phayze2: the error's pretty clear; /home/john/chapter1question2.cc does not exist or you lack read perms for it
[05:52] <Vexir> crimsun: WEP is disabled... my data rate is nothing wierd
[05:53] <kevogod> "Support for pivot tables has now been vastly improved with many new features added."
[05:53] <FR500> kevogod: kewl
[05:53] <FR500> Vexir: in the network config applet mark the "this device is configured" check
[05:53] <FR500> and then try to set your essid
[05:53] <crimsun> Vexir: using the breezy colony 4 live cd, does ''iwconfig'' show the essid of your ap?
[05:54] <Vexir> crimsun: what?
[05:54] <crimsun> Vexir: are you running Ubuntu at the moment?
[05:54] <FR500> kevogod: what about a database like msaccess?
[05:54] <regeya> gnome-launch-box!
[05:54] <kevogod> FR500: It includes a new program called Base
[05:55] <regeya> rock
[05:55] <FR500> of vfp, most office guys that need databases use that
[05:55] <Vaske_Car> where to find guides to install MGEG and MP3 support?
[05:55] <FR500> ok
[05:55] <FR500> nice
[05:55] <Vaske_Car> MPEG*
[05:55] <killapop> Hi people! I have a Toshiba Satellite A10 Notebook now running XP and Ubuntu Hoary. I've been using Ubuntu for the last 8 months without a problem. A few days ago, I installed some laptop utilities through synaptic and now when i boot up... i get past the login screen and then the screen remains blank for almost 5 mins before the gnome-panel loads... then eth0 is not configured and i have to manually config it each time i boot....
[05:55] <kevogod> FR500: I am not sure how powerful or comparable to Access it is, but you can try and find that out yourself
[05:55] <killapop> sorry for the long rant
[05:55] <FR500> i see
[05:55] <killapop> can anyone help?
[05:55] <FR500> in any case, i could install office xp i gues but i don't really like the idea
[05:55] <killapop> i removed the laptop utilties but still no fun
[05:56] <killapop> i mean its didnt fix the problem
[05:56] <tga> !tell Vaske_Car about restrictedformats
[05:56] <Vexir> Does anyone know why my Dlink DWL-G520 is detected fine by Ubuntu but wont find a connection? (wireless card) the Ubuntu wiki says its supported out of the box and should work very well...
[05:56] <thoreauputic> !tell Vaske_Car about mp3
[05:57] <phayze2> crimsun: thanks though, that was a lot of help
[05:57] <kevogod> FR500, I am not sure if you can install Base from the repos since it requires Java. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
[05:57] <Vexir> OH
[05:57] <crimsun> Vexir: you haven't answered my question
[05:57] <Vexir> I SEE
[05:57] <Vexir> crim: nono it says in the wiki that revision B of this card (i have this) wont work out of the box but theres some fix that i can do or sometihnsomething to make it work
[05:57] <flamesrock> $hi, I'm wondering if anyone here knows the best/easiest way to convert an avi into an mpg suitable for burning on to DVD? I swear, I've looked. Everything seems to be for vcd..
[05:58] <kevogod> FR500: Base would probably be unofficially supported by Ubuntu because of the Java requirement - I think it still is there
[05:58] <nalioth> flamesrock: the unicorn you seek is called "transcode"
[05:58] <FR500> kevogod: cool
[05:58] <bur[n] er> anyone know why gnome-panel wants to access my keyring for evolution passwords everytime I start my PC... is there anyway I can stop it?
[05:58] <tga> flamesrock, mencoder might help too
[05:58] <FR500> i hope mergeant gets supported for breezy
[05:58] <shadeofgrey> whats the command in apt-get to install the damn macromedia flash player?
[05:59] <AzMoo> Hi there. I just plugged in my digital camera, and I need to mount it, but I'm not sure what device it's on. dmesg shows that it's detected, so that's a good start. What device and fs do I need?
[05:59] <kevogod> FR500, The version of openoffice.org2 in the repos is old though... so I would not judge it based off of that
[05:59] <tga> anyone else having trouble with evolution eating up all the cpu?
[05:59] <bur[n] er> !flash
[05:59] <ubotu> flash is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:59] <FR500> ok
[05:59] <shadeofgrey> i tried downloading it manually and installing it manually but i got the installation directory for mozilla wrong
[05:59] <flamesrock> thanks, tga, nalioth
[05:59] <kevogod> FR500, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OpenOffice2Beta
[05:59] <brownie17> where can i get a c++ compiler?
[05:59] <crimsun> build-essential, brownie17
[05:59] <nalioth> brownie17: install "build-essential"
[05:59] <shadeofgrey> does anybody know where the default install directory for firefox is?????
[05:59] <flamesrock> isn't g++ good enoughm brownie17
[06:00] <brownie17> crimsun: sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[06:00] <tga> shadeofgrey, /usr/lib/mozilla-frefox
[06:00] <crimsun> brownie17: yes
[06:00] <nalioth> brownie17: yes
[06:00] <shadeofgrey> thanks tga!'
[06:00] <bur[n] er> !tell shadeofgrey about flash
[06:00] <Vexir> crimsun: hey i sent you a PM, could you respond plz
[06:00] <phayze2> brownie17: Anjuta is a C++ compiler with a UI
[06:01] <brownie17> phayze2: i only want it so an program i am trying to install will work
[06:01] <peloverde> launchpad is telling me that the source package name i'm entering is invalid but it most certainly seems correct
[06:01] <peloverde> gnuradio-examples
[06:01] <brownie17> anyone here using DOOM3 on Ubuntu?
[06:01] <HrdwrBoB> brownie17: yeah
[06:01] <thoreauputic> not bad - trying toget used to using irssi more, so I'm a bit less involved on channel at the moment
[06:01] <brownie17> nalioth: why, when i open rythymbox, is there only two radiostations?
[06:02] <thoreauputic> bah wrong window !
[06:02] <nalioth> brownie17: b/c you havent added any more
[06:02] <Vexir> !tell Vexir about wireless
[06:02] <bimberi> thoreauputic: the irony :)
[06:02] <brownie17> hrdwrBob: i did everything the guide on https://wiki.ubuntu.com told me to do, but now when i go to open it it just gives me a smaller resolution and leaves me on the dekstop with no mouse control?
[06:03] <brownie17> nalioth: where can i do that?
[06:03] <FR500> i get gpg errors when running apt-get update
[06:03] <FR500> how can i fix that?
[06:03] <nalioth> brownie17: in the menus, you can add radio stations
[06:03] <brownie17> FR500: give specific on the errors
[06:03] <thoreauputic> bimberi: heheh - I'm fiddling arond with split windows
[06:03] <HrdwrBoB> brownie17: run it on the command line, tell me what error it gives
[06:03] <sepmike> does anyone know if you are using vncviewer how to minimized that terminal session ?  that is sitting at a ubuntu machine acting as the client
[06:03] <FR500> brownie17: W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:03] <FR500> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:03] <brownie17> nalioth: are you personally familiar with it? do you use it often?
[06:03] <FR500> sorry for pasting i forgot
[06:04] <bimberi> thoreauputic: i've tried it too, but have got very familiar with xchat
[06:04] <brownie17> FR500: i forgive you
[06:04] <nalioth> brownie17: i have used it, but not too much
[06:04] <trevor3307> hey....does anyone know of an RSS screensaver other than Mercury?
[06:05] <brownie17> nalioth: why would i use apt-get instead of synaptic?
[06:05] <nalioth> brownie17: personal choice
[06:05] <FR500> brownie17: any ideas on what's wrong?
[06:05] <bur[n] er> brownie17: because you always have a term window open and you'd have to open synaptic ;)
[06:05] <brownie17> nalioth: so do all the radio stations require high bandwidth connections? i only have a 256
[06:05] <FR500> brownie17: there are some with 24
[06:05] <bur[n] er> brownie17: check out streamtuner
[06:06] <benplaut> anyone here gotten quicksilver up and running?
[06:06] <benplaut> err
[06:06] <sn0n> quicksilver?
[06:06] <benplaut> Gnome-Launch-Box
[06:06] <sn0n> lol
[06:06] <nalioth> brownie17: you can go to www.tuner2.com and use vlc to access their streams, it sounds great
[06:06] <brownie17> FR500: i'm only a newbie, you'll have to ask someone else, just it's easier to get help if you put the entire problem in. and if no-one says anything then usually no-one knows
[06:06] <thoreauputic> bimberi: I've used irssi before , but this configuration is new: irssi has advantages for op scripts (I'm learning about this... )
[06:06] <crimsun> walter: your sound chipset is very new; we'll have to dig around a bit for the info
[06:06] <brownie17> nalioth: thanks
[06:06] <nalioth> brownie17: np
[06:06] <mike_> anyone have any experience with using enlightenment?
[06:06] <Vjaz> Hi. I'm wondering, how stable is Breezy these days?
[06:06] <trevor3307> everyone: rss screensaver for linux...are there any?
[06:07] <sn0n> trevor3307, Liferea
[06:07] <trevor3307> thank
[06:07] <FR500> thoreauputic: i get some gpg errors, any clus on what is wrong?
[06:07] <sn0n> trevor3307, there is like 20+
[06:07] <walter> okay thanks for trying anyway
[06:07] <trevor3307> i cant find any...
[06:07] <bimberi> thoreauputic: ah, how to ban as quickly as possible meguesses
[06:07] <sn0n> trevor3307, owl, blam,
[06:07] <kevogod> trevor3307, I saw Tiger's RSS screensaver and was impressed
[06:07] <thoreauputic> FR500: with apt?
[06:07] <brownie17> bur[n] er: where can i see streamtuner?
[06:07] <FR500> thoreauputic: after apt-get update
[06:07] <FR500> yes
[06:07] <trevor3307> no...screensaver
[06:07] <sn0n> kevogod, Tigers ?
[06:07] <kevogod> sn0n, OS X Tiger
[06:07] <AzMoo> err, are there supposed to be any /dev/sdaX devices?
[06:07] <sn0n> ooooo
[06:07] <sn0n> osx
[06:07] <thoreauputic> FR500: errors or warnings?
[06:07] <sn0n> i was like.. eh
[06:07] <trevor3307> not newsreader....screensaver
[06:07] <sn0n> lol
[06:08] <brownie17> nalioth: is vlc a better replacment for rythymbox? becasue i like ryhtmox's media library set-up thing. it is alot like winamp
[06:08] <FR500> thoreauputic: it says gpg error
[06:08] <mik3> where is that jive turkey known as Seveas
[06:08] <drcode> hi all
[06:08] <kevogod> trevor3307, Yea, Tiger has an RSS screensaver
[06:08] <drcode> I Need help
[06:08] <sn0n> news readers shouldnt be screensavers
[06:08] <trevor3307> why not?
[06:08] <thoreauputic> FR500: are you using standard repos?
[06:08] <bimberi> mik3: asleep most likely
[06:08] <sn0n> its just silly.. cuz if the screensaver is on.. im not at the computer..
[06:08] <FR500> the errors are on the standard ones
[06:08] <weerobby> is there any fix for winetools I really hate having to use the human theme to use wine tools
[06:08] <trevor3307> this is not my primary comp..
[06:08] <sn0n> and if im at the computer.. i'll be damned if its on the screensaver
[06:08] <drcode> I Have files with "filename.rar " I Want it to be "filename.rar"
[06:08] <kevogod> sn0n, Not necessarily
[06:08] <drcode> any idea?
[06:08] <trevor3307> it sites in the corner
[06:08] <trevor3307> sits*
[06:08] <HrdwrBoB> drcode: rename them
[06:08] <Vaske_Car> Still problem with playing online radio
[06:08] <HrdwrBoB> ?
[06:08] <nalioth> brownie17: tuner2 uses aacplus to stream their music, and (at this time) vlc is the only mainstream player to play it
[06:09] <Vaske_Car> :(
[06:09] <kevogod> sn0n, With OS X and Expose you can click a corner to active the screen saver
[06:09] <drcode> I Have multifiles
[06:09] <sn0n> hmm
[06:09] <drcode> is there some fast idea?
[06:09] <thoreauputic> FR500: odd - any changes to your configuration recently?
[06:09] <brownie17> nalioth: but is VLC good for everything else that rythymbox can do? i'd like to have one program for all my music needs if possible :)
[06:09] <FR500> i changed my sources.list to one i found in the pastebin, with some seveas quotes i think
[06:09] <crimsun> walter: what motherboard is it?
[06:09] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello again ppl....I really give up
[06:09] <weerobby> kevogod: also in osx you can suffer pitful preformance
[06:09] <nalioth> brownie17: to my knowledge, vlc doestn do playlists
[06:10] <crimsun> (vlc has playlists)
[06:10] <walter> fijitsu siemens D1675
[06:10] <thoreauputic> FR500: did you back up the old one?
[06:10] <walter> wrong spellling proably
[06:10] <Inf3ctedFx> I need to find the driver for my WAN  which is Broadcom BCM4320
[06:10] <walter> but deffo d1675
[06:10] <FR500> nope
[06:10] <sn0n> brownie17, Totem in 2.12 is awesome for everything
[06:10] <FR500> thoreauputic: but i was getting the same errors
[06:10] <sn0n> brownie17, since its got builtin playlist and about everything else
[06:10] <kevogod> weerobby, I assume you read that one article criticizing OS X's performance on some server task? Have you ever used Tiger?
[06:10] <thoreauputic> FR500: most likely you just made an error in the list
[06:10] <nalioth> brownie17: well crimsun says you're in business. vlc does playlists
[06:11] <drcode> HrdwrBoB, U can help me please
[06:11] <FR500> thoreauputic: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5
[06:11] <HrdwrBoB> drcode: unfortunately it's not easy
[06:11] <weerobby> kevogod: first no and second I own a dual g4 733 and a 2ghz single g5 Xserve
[06:11] <HrdwrBoB> unless you have LOTS of files, just rename them
[06:11] <thoreauputic> FR500: hmm
[06:12] <nalioth> kevogod: osx does have performance problems in some areas
[06:12] <thoreauputic> FR500: seems strange you would see that with standard repos
[06:12] <kevogod> nalioth, Yes, but not to the extent that is show stopping
[06:12] <FR500> is there a way to reset the keys or clear them or anything alike?
[06:12] <intelikey> !tell intelikey about rar
[06:12] <intelikey> i thought so.
[06:13] <nalioth> intelikey: try /msg ubotu rar next time
[06:13] <thoreauputic> FR500: yes there is - I don't remember it off the top of my head but I think the wiki has something about it
[06:13] <kevogod> nalioth, I would never use OS X for server use
[06:13] <nalioth> kevogod: me neither, i've got ubu on my macs
[06:13] <liberfiasco> !tell libervisco about apt
[06:13] <trevor3307> so no RSS screensavers that anyone knows of?
[06:13] <liberfiasco> !tell liberfiasco about apt
[06:13] <bur[n] er> nope
[06:13] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone knows where can I download the drivers for my wireless card?? is a BCM4320
[06:13] <walter> Fujitsu Siemens D1675
[06:13] <intelikey> nalioth was that one line so obtrusive ?
[06:13] <bur[n] er> liberfiasco: you can just msg ubotu ;)
[06:13] <kevogod> If you want a Unix based OS, why choose OS X over FreeBSD?
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> trevor3307,  not that i have seen.
[06:14] <FR500> thoreauputic: thanks
[06:14] <Madpilot> !tell Inf3ctedFx about wireless
[06:14] <liberfiasco> bur[n] er, oh thanks :)
[06:14] <liberfiasco> cool is that bot :)
[06:14] <weerobby> kevogod: I find even with a ati 9600 ui to be sluggish and as far as my xserve it used as a netboot station for other macs
[06:14] <nalioth> intelikey: if you are seeking knowledge for yourself, why let everyone else know ?
[06:15] <[Spooky] > hey, i just can choose 640x480 800x600 and 1024x768 in the gui tool, how do i choose like 1600x1200 ?
[06:15] <sn0n> !tell #ubuntu about politics
[06:15] <sn0n> hehehe
[06:15] <crimsun> walter: hmm. sudo modprobe -r snd_azx
[06:15] <sn0n> what kinda eggdrop is ubotu
[06:15] <sn0n> ?
[06:15] <kevogod> weerobby, The experience I have had with G5s and Tiger/10.3.X was good. OS X loaded very quickly on the systems and I did not notice really any sluggishness
[06:16] <crimsun> sn0n: modified blootbot
[06:16] <nalioth> sn0n: /whois the bot
[06:16] <Madpilot> !tell [Spooky]  about fixres
[06:16] <sn0n> oo
[06:16] <brownie17> !polotics
[06:16] <ubotu> Not a clue, brownie17
[06:16] <kevogod> weerobby, The UI even responded quickly
[06:16] <brownie17> !politics
[06:16] <ubotu> brownie17: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:16] <Inf3ctedFx> Madpilot:  but this is the funny thing.. I have the CD, everytime I load the driver to ndiswrapper -i BCM4306 it said, Invalid Driver
[06:16] <liberfiasco> haha
[06:16] <kevogod> weerobby, Although on G4s and G3s, I can see the performance problems
[06:16] <weerobby> kevogod: apparently you have not run the same machines using linux
[06:16] <benplaut> w00t! Gnome 2.12 is out :D
[06:16] <weerobby> kevogod: osx is full of bloat almost as bad as windows xp
[06:17] <sn0n> blootbot seems terriably outdated
[06:17] <sn0n> lol
[06:17] <Inf3ctedFx> on the lspci -a show me the number 4320
[06:17] <brownie17> naloth: can i update my version of gnome? how?
[06:17] <Madpilot> Inf3ctedFx: to be honest, I still run on lots and lots of Cat5 here...
[06:17] <Inf3ctedFx> with the lscpi -v shoe me the driver 43 something..
[06:17] <crimsun> walter: that should return you to a prompt
[06:17] <crimsun> walter: any luck?
[06:17] <Inf3ctedFx> yes.. I believe I'm going to do that =)
[06:18] <kevogod> weerobby, Does Linux boot quicker than Tiger on a G5?
[06:18] <[Spooky] > Madpilot: that page dont work...
[06:18] <sn0n> kevogod, depends on if the linux is loading X or just to a login
[06:18] <weerobby> kevogod: it does on a g
[06:18] <weerobby> g4
[06:18] <Inf3ctedFx> Cannot join #ubuntu-es (You are banned). <-- why showed me I'm banned when I never went there b4?
[06:19] <sn0n> whats -es ?
[06:19] <kevogod> sn0n, Well, let's be fair here
[06:19] <brownie17> inf3ctedfx: got a dynamic or static IP adress?
[06:19] <Inf3ctedFx> es = spanish
[06:19] <sn0n> oo
[06:19] <Inf3ctedFx> I have a dynamic
[06:19] <thoreauputic> kevogod: since I haven't needed to reboot in 76 days, seems irrelevant ;)
[06:19] <brownie17> inf3ctedfx: turn off yuor modem, turn it back on, then try again
[06:20] <kevogod> thoreauputic, Since the majority of people shutdown their computers at night, it certainly does seem relevant
[06:20] <walter> it did, no output
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> thats the problem... I'm stealing signal from my neighbor lol
[06:20] <[Spooky] > is www.ubuntulinux.org down ?
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> wireless singnal xD
[06:20] <thoreauputic> kevogod: I was just making a light hearted comment, really
[06:20] <brownie17> inf3ctedfx: although EXTREMELY unlikely, it is possible that someone got banned using the IP that your ISP randomnly gave you
[06:20] <intelikey> Inf3ctedFx it may be your ip that is baned and not your nick.
[06:20] <No1Viking> [Spooky] : No, it's up
[06:20] <Madpilot> [Spooky] : not for me..
[06:20] <Inf3ctedFx> yes, thats the wired thing
[06:21] <brownie17> inf3ctedfx: hahah :) nice job. he know? can't help you then. that probably wasn't the problem anyway. is he spanish? did he try to go there?
[06:21] <[Spooky] > strange i cant get in...
[06:21] <ells> tritium: hey what is up
[06:21] <Madpilot> [Spooky] : try www.ubuntu.com or one of the other URLs?
[06:21] <nalioth> Inf3ctedFx: your isp may be banned from -es
[06:21] <Inf3ctedFx> no, actually I just install this NIC wireless and I track like 5 diferent signals lol  those r insecure wireless signal
[06:21] <odat> hello everyone
[06:22] <brownie17> inf3ctedfx: ok. gtg
[06:22] <Inf3ctedFx> I migh need to talk to him and say: Hey dude power circle ur modem  lol
[06:25] <[Spooky] > all other webpages load, but not any ubuntu... strange...
[06:25] <odat> anyone able to help me get my DRI working?
[06:25] <aircooledmadness> hey
[06:27] <walter> crimsun, Where do i go from here
[06:27] <kalias> nickrud: Hi!  How is life?
[06:27] <crimsun> walter: did you unload snd_azx?
[06:28] <walter> no
[06:28] <walter> or os that what the -r does?
[06:28] <kalias> I was wondering if someone help me with some serial port trouble?
[06:28] <intelikey> odat "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "   is about as good a place to start as i know of.
[06:29] <odat> intelikey: just went through that and its disabled
[06:29] <odat> :(
[06:29] <msfrank> odat: what card do you have?
[06:30] <crimsun> walter: that's what the -r does
[06:30] <odat> msfrank: VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[06:30] <walter> crabstic,  yes then i did
[06:30] <walter> my mistake
[06:30] <nfinitep1astik> hello gentlepeople
[06:31] <tritium> good night, amigos
[06:31] <nfinitep1astik> i've recently installed hoary on an ibook and just needed help configuring ALSA to work
[06:31] <crimsun> 'night
[06:31] <msfrank> odat : DRI requires support in the kernel, and i don't know if ubuntu ships with the savage kernel driver enabled..
[06:31] <brownie17> nalioth: hey umm. i have a file that gas a .sh.bin extension, and it is an install for a program... what do i need to do to it to make ti run?
[06:31] <msfrank> odat: i'll check tho
[06:31] <intelikey> good howdy do nfinitep1astik
[06:31] <nalioth> brownie17: run it  ./filename.sh.bin
[06:31] <odat> i'm just assuming that is why my screen redraws are so slow
[06:32] <brownie17> !tell nfiniteplastik about alsa
[06:32] <kalias> Newbie question:  What does "/dev/ttyS0: not a tty" mean?  I am trying to send something out a serial port.
[06:32] <nfinitep1astik> intelikey: thanks.....just trying to get stuff running ^.^
[06:32] <msfrank> odat: DRI will not help (at the moment) with 2d acceleration
[06:32] <brownie17> nalioth: just gives me some error about it not existing
[06:32] <intelikey> nfinitep1astik usually running alsamixer and using M to un mute it will fix that.  but if you problem is bigger than that say on.
[06:33] <nalioth> brownie17: type chmod u+x filename.sh.bin
[06:33] <msfrank> odat: do you mean monitor flickering, like your refresh rate is too low?
[06:33] <brownie17> nalioth: it says command not found, what willthat chomd thing do
[06:33] <odat> msfrank: when switching applications and / or anything that requires screen redraws its painful
[06:33] <nfinitep1astik> .....
[06:33] <nfinitep1astik> i must be tired
[06:33] <brownie17> nalioth: didn't give me an error, but didnt appear to do anything either
[06:33] <nfinitep1astik> i forgot to switch the mixer
[06:33] <nalioth> brownie17: it said 'not found' b/c your .bin was told to be an executable. the chmod command will tell it to act so
[06:34] <nalioth> brownie17: now run ./filename.sh.bin
[06:34] <brownie17> still says command not found
[06:34] <brownie17> nalioth: actually i think i have it worked out
[06:35] <brownie17> nalioth: yeah it's installing
[06:35] <msfrank> odat: open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and tell me what video driver you are using
[06:36] <ksmurf> is there anyway to save favorite channels in xchat?
[06:36] <Jerimiah40> Hello everybody
[06:36] <Jerimiah40> Is there somebody here who could tell me the approximate system requirements for Ubuntu?
[06:37] <nfinitep1astik> Jerimiah40: a toaster with 4 slots
[06:37] <nalioth> Jerimiah40: what were  you thinking of puttin it on?
[06:37] <thoreauputic> ksmurf: you can set them to autojoin in the server dialogue
[06:37] <Jerimiah40> Its a Pentium-3 Processor, with 128 megabytes of ram
[06:37] <weerobby> sorry back had to check on a win2k server I am setting up
[06:37] <Madpilot> nfinitep1astik: but can you get OK performance from a 2-slot toaster? ;)
[06:38] <nalioth> Jerimiah40: you'll be fine
[06:38] <Jerimiah40> Okay, thank you
[06:38] <weerobby> More ram would help though
[06:38] <nfinitep1astik> Madpilot: sure, im sure you can overclock the heating coils
[06:38] <nalioth> Madpilot: better with the bagel-width 2-slot jobs
[06:38] <Vaske_Car> Is Linux based CorelDraw FREE or not?
[06:38] <whyameye> Is a Pentium II still fine with ubuntu?
[06:38] <ksmurf> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24890 Jerimiah
[06:38] <nalioth> whyameye: yes it is
[06:38] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, there's CorelDRAW for linux?!!?!?
[06:38] <weerobby> whyameye: I put it on a old pentium pro 233 so it should be fine
[06:39] <thoreauputic> just be sure your taoster has a good fan...
[06:39] <Vaske_Car> Isnt it?
[06:39] <benplaut> a really old one
[06:39] <whyameye> ...and I'm assuming it will run faster than Windows OSes on these older machines?
[06:39] <odat> msfrank: savage  driver
[06:39] <planetcall> hello peeps
[06:39] <nalioth> whyameye: yes, usually
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. is it possible to make a file with its name - with spaces at the end? 'foo    '
[06:39] <weerobby> Vaske_Car: I belive at one point they gave it out for free bu I dont know about now
[06:39] <cafuego_> whyameye: It will as long as you either havs 256MB+ of ram or (if less) run xfce or *box.
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> someone is asking how to remove said spaces...  :P or hes confused about somthing else.
[06:39] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, i've heard of it, but never found it... i think v6 or something might have come for linux, too
[06:39] <planetcall> where there is Debian then why ubuntu ?
[06:40] <msfrank> odat: hrm..i thought maybe you were using the old VGA driver or something..
[06:40] <brownie17> nalioth: i am REALLY beginning to understand why people say you need nvidia to play games on linux, becasue of the drivers!!!! :( :(
[06:40] <Vaske_Car> What is a Linux alternative for Corel?
[06:40] <cafuego_> planetcall: Why not?
[06:40] <crimsun> Dr_Willis: sure, you can always mv it
[06:40] <crimsun> Dr_Willis: it needs to be properly escaped from the shell, of course
[06:40] <Madpilot> Vaske_Car: for vector drawing, Inkscape
[06:40] <planetcall> since it is based on debian then why shouldnt one choose debian instead of ubuntu ?
[06:40] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, in terms of vectors?
[06:40] <whyameye> cafuego_, what is xfce and *box?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> crimsun,  but he has 200 of them . :p
[06:40] <Jerimiah40> Thank you everybody for your help :)
[06:40] <Vaske_Car> yes yes vectors
[06:40] <weerobby> brownie17: Are you an ATI person
[06:40] <planetcall> dont take it otherwise.........asking just coz i had this question in my mind
[06:40] <crimsun> Dr_Willis: that's what sed is for
[06:40] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, yeah, inkscape
[06:41] <crimsun> Dr_Willis: or perl, if he's into that
[06:41] <cafuego_> whyameye: xfce and *box (fluxbox, blackbox) are desktop environemnts and window managers. Gnome/KDE is probably a bit too much with 64 or 128MB ram.
[06:41] <benplaut> but, as you can imagine, any interface on earth pales to CorelDraw :)
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> crimsun,  lol.. i think he barely understands bash or english. :P
[06:41] <whyameye> cafuego_, and you can install ubuntu with xfce or *box instead of Gnome?
[06:41] <crimsun> walter: still here?
[06:41] <cafuego_> whyameye: Yep, just begin with a 'server' install, then add what you need.
[06:41] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, found it... v9 had a linux edition
[06:41] <Vaske_Car> benplaut: GIMP is just to edit pictures right?
[06:42] <benplaut> yeah
[06:42] <benplaut> same as photopaint
[06:42] <weerobby> whyamye you end up with gnome but it wont take very long to get xfce installed on it
[06:42] <planetcall> ?
[06:42] <Vaske_Car> benapult: Corel v(?
[06:42] <nalioth> Vaske_Car: gimp is trying to equal photoshop
[06:42] <odat> msfrank: yea i'm not sure what to do
[06:42] <cafuego_> planetcall: Why not try both and see if there is a difference?
[06:42] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, something messed up on that end... nine...
[06:42] <walter> crimsun, I am
[06:42] <brownie17> weerobby: yes atm, but i want to change now ;(
[06:43] <thoreauputic> planetcall: well, ubuntu tends to be easier to set up and releases every 6 months
[06:43] <msfrank> odat: are your computers specs recent?  ubuntu/GNOME can be fairly resource intensive
[06:43] <weerobby> brownie17: what ati card
[06:43] <adoyretsamon> planetcall, cause Ubuntu has support you can buy...
[06:43] <Vaske_Car> Corel v9 is available for free, linux edition?
[06:43] <adoyretsamon> and is easier
[06:43] <adoyretsamon> very easy
[06:43] <brownie17> weerobby: the radeonVE/7000
[06:43] <adoyretsamon> oh, yea and stays newer
[06:43] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, i don't think free... but it exists
[06:43] <planetcall> k got it
[06:43] <weerobby> brownie17: blah....  I have not had really any gaming problems with linux and radeon 9600 XT
[06:44] <adoyretsamon> weerobby, wow
[06:44] <adoyretsamon> good
[06:44] <funkyelf> whats up guys.  I'm considering installing ubuntu for a MythTV box I want to build.  I have a buddy I work with that just installed ubuntu and was complaining that its nedit was version 5.4 when 5.5 has been out for a long time.  If one were to install nedit 5.5 manually would it break stuff with synaptic?
[06:44] <brownie17> weerobby: that's becasue ATI make drivers for radeon 8000 series and higher
[06:44] <Vaske_Car> inkscape does not look bad :)  just need a bit of time...
[06:44] <kalias> How are com ports labeled in unix land?  Are they ttys0 and ttys1?
[06:44] <cafuego_> kalias: yes
[06:44] <brownie17> weerobby: but i have to use the standard ubuntu one
[06:44] <planetcall> since i havent used debian may i ask what is the difference between debian and ubuntu. Please list only a few
[06:44] <cafuego_> kalias: Well, capital S
[06:44] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, and no, there isn't a layer/object panel :(
[06:44] <adoyretsamon> Vaske_Car, yes.. inkscape is nice
[06:44] <weerobby> there are some features that  I dont have access too like the ati overdrive functions like in windows but it works fine
[06:44] <nfinitep1astik> anyone know if ubuntu automatically supports wireless hardware for ibooks?
[06:44] <cafuego_> planetcall: Ubuntu is ease-of-use-on-desktop focused.
[06:45] <planetcall> i have recently got 20 free ubuntu CDs and have distributed 19 of them
[06:45] <odat> msfrank: i'm running a 1.7 ghz celeron with 256 megs of ram
[06:45] <cafuego_> nfinitep1astik: airport extreme?
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> planetcall, why not try debian and see whats the difference ?
[06:45] <weerobby> I right now about 50/50 with Nvidia and ATI cards and really can not put one ahead of another
[06:45] <adoyretsamon> planetcall, then why that question?
[06:45] <thoreauputic> planetcall: not a lot really - try the live CD to experiment
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> weerobby, nvidia
[06:45] <nfinitep1astik> cafuego_: broadcom, actually
[06:45] <{GuNNeR}> could someone help me, when I use my wireless to log on to my personal wep encrypted router, I have no problem at all, but for some reason when I'm at my university, I cannot get on their non wep encrypted "any" server
[06:45] <{GuNNeR}> any ideas why?
[06:45] <cafuego_> nfinitep1astik: Yeah, not supported. (at all)
[06:45] <brownie17> weerobby: that is of course, if you have the money to buy a good one! :)
[06:45] <weerobby> planetcall: I have 580 on there way which will all be used up if they arrive by saturday
[06:45] <msfrank> odat: that sounds reasonable.. i'm baffled :(
[06:46] <nfinitep1astik> cafuego_: thanks....i'll have to use super generic drivers
[06:46] <crimsun> walter: please, sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0
[06:46] <Vaske_Car> Inkscape is similar to Xara
[06:46] <brownie17> weerobby: man you are serious about distributing!!!
[06:46] <adoyretsamon> {GuNNeR}, you need to use something like whereami script
[06:46] <weerobby> Brownie I find it best to buy video cards off of friends who by a new card every 8 months
[06:46] <cafuego_> nfinitep1astik: The aurport express is just not supported (at all, in any way) under Linux.
[06:46] <adoyretsamon> {GuNNeR}, works very cool, but you need to configure it
[06:46] <weerobby> brownie17: no it is a software freedom day event
[06:46] <walter> done
[06:46] <adoyretsamon> {GuNNeR}, esp if you move from network to network
[06:46] <brownie17> weerobby: yeah thats quite a good idea, oh ok
[06:46] <weerobby> they are for the whole tampa bay area
[06:46] <funkyelf> one Ubuntu is installed, are you for all intensive purposes running a debian box?...could you follow any debian how-to's without problem or is Ubuntu very customized?
[06:47] <kalias> cafuego_:That is strange.  I am trying to direct a file out a serial port and it comes back with "/dev/ttyS0: not a tty"
[06:47] <walter> how do you runa gz.sh file
[06:47] <nalioth> Vaske_Car: http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[06:47] <ksmurf> test
[06:47] <cafuego_> kalias: Driver not loaded?
[06:47] <planetcall> i am on dialup and they dont provide free debian cd :P. ;)   But my little experience with live cd does suggest ubuntu could be better choice but personally i  am using FEDORA as i am much familiar with RedHat commands and usage
[06:47] <weerobby> brownie17:  i have a friend that updates his card every year and I get his old one for say 70 dollars when it still selling on stores for close to 200 while he buying 300 dollar cards
[06:47] <nfinitep1astik> cafuego_: but i wasn't referring to airport extreme, just the onboard wireless....or is it the same?
[06:48] <kalias> cafuego_: That is a good question.  I don't know how to tell.
[06:48] <thoreauputic> planetcall: use what works for you then
[06:48] <planetcall> i will definitely try a switch over for timebeing to ubuntu for the sake of the good people who sent me free cds
[06:48] <crimsun> walter: what happens with that modprobe command?
[06:48] <brownie17> weerobby: lucky bastard!
[06:48] <planetcall> and may be if i find ease with it......i will stick
[06:49] <walter> no output
[06:49] <planetcall> anyways thank guys
[06:49] <weerobby> nfinitep1astik: airport extreme can reffer to the airport card or the airport access point  but either way it describes apples 802.11G products
[06:49] <cafuego_> nfinitep1astik: That is what the on-board wireless is.
[06:49] <nfinitep1astik> weerobby: thanks
[06:49] <silverton> Is there an easy way to add more resolutions to xorg.conf?
[06:49] <crimsun> walter: cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:49] <cafuego_> weerobby: the access point is an "airport express".
[06:49] <odat> msfrank: would checking out the xorg.conf file help?
[06:49] <weerobby> cafuego_: your right
[06:50] <thoreauputic> !tell silverton about fixres
[06:50] <Vaske_Car> nalioth: thanks!
[06:50] <ksmurf> thoreauputic that worked like a charm .... Thanks
[06:50] <nalioth> Vaske_Car: np
[06:50] <cafuego_> nfinitep1astik: Broadcom aren't supporting Linux. x86 losers could use ndiswrapepr and the windows drivers, but there is no such beast for ppc.
[06:50] <walter> l@wox:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:50] <walter> --- no soundcards ---
[06:50] <walter> l@wox:~$
[06:50] <thoreauputic> ksmurf: yw :)
[06:50] <crimsun> walter: ok, then your card simply isn't supported yet
[06:50] <cafuego_> nfinitep1astik: on an iBook, your only alternatively would be a supported USB wifi dongle.
[06:51] <cafuego_> s/alternatively/alternative/
[06:51] <kalias> cafuego_: I typed "ps - a" and it came back with 8312 pts/0 00:00:00 ps.  Is this good?
[06:51] <crimsun> walter: I'll dig through the source, but I'm not optimistic
[06:51] <walter> okay thanks crimsun for the time you put in
[06:51] <cafuego_> kalias: /dev/pts/0 is where you're logged in./
[06:51] <brownie17> GTG EVERYONE
[06:51] <brownie17> oops, sorry about caps
[06:52] <msfrank> odat: try reading through /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  its a chore, but you might find something in there
[06:52] <weerobby> cafuego_: i thought linuxant worked with ppc linux and that uses win32 drivers
[06:52] <msfrank> odat: like a misconfiguration or something
[06:53] <professor> Whats the command to report current system type (i386, 686, etc)?
[06:53] <nalioth> professor: uname -a
[06:53] <cafuego_> weerobby: a ppc chip cannot execute w32 binaries (without an additional emulation layer).
[06:53] <thoreauputic> professor: uname -m
[06:53] <professor> thoreauputic, thx
[06:53] <thoreauputic> uname -a reports more
[06:53] <professor> nalioth, thx
[06:53] <kalias> cafuego_: okay that was a silly question :(  Sorry.
[06:54] <ksmurf> Anyone know why transparency won't work with gdeslets in breezy?
[06:54] <Vaske_Car> benplaut: check this out: http://www.sodipodi.com/screenshots/new/sodipodi-0.32.jpg
[06:54] <benplaut> yah, sodipodi
[06:54] <crimsun> walter: ok, last try. We're going to need alsa-driver 1.0.10rc1
[06:55] <benplaut> looks OK, but really confusing
[06:55] <erik_> Good people of Ubuntu, I need your help.  Whenever I run any SDL app, X-Windows dies instantly (and restarts).    Well, whatever it is that KDE and Gnome runs on -- dies instantly! :)
[06:56] <silverton> do I need to restart after installing "linux-restricted-modules" ?
[06:56] <crimsun> walter: you need to apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[06:57] <deFrysk> silverton, nope afaIk
[06:57] <silverton> okay, thanks
[06:57] <crimsun> walter: then download ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1.tar.bz2
[06:59] <jcd1006> is there a way to make gaim not be in military time?
[06:59] <walter> finnished downloading
[06:59] <kalias> cafuego_: How do I tell what the com ports are mapped to and if the drivers are running?
[06:59] <crimsun> walter: did you install the other two packages?
[06:59] <erik_> Strangely, I get the same behavior (X dying) on both my PPC and x86 machine -- so I just wanted to know if others had run into this...
[07:00] <nalioth> jcd1006: in your preferences, you can make the time say anything you like
[07:00] <nalioth> jcd1006: system > preferences
[07:00] <walter> was that part of the long command from eralier?
[07:00] <Madpilot> why do Americans always seem to refer to 24-hour time as "military time"? ... just curious...
[07:00] <crimsun> walter: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[07:01] <crimsun> Madpilot: because "only" the military uses it
[07:01] <cafuego_> Madpilot: Because they're retarded.
[07:01] <erik_> Madpilot: The only thing in the US to use it is military -- and flight schedules.
[07:01] <crimsun> (not quite, but it's the way people are conditioned)
[07:01] <ramah> most hospitals and restaurants use it also
[07:01] <walter> ya i done that
[07:01] <Vaske_Car> benplaut: what about this one: http://www.nongnu.org/skencil/screenshots.html
[07:01] <cafuego_> kalias: 'dmesg' should show you if the drivers are loaded (and what the ports are).
[07:01] <erik_> never seen a restaurant use it... hospitals I beleive.
[07:01] <crimsun> ramah: quite a few areas use it, but most people are blind to it
[07:01] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, also not in active dev
[07:01] <walter> I have the latest version
[07:02] <ramah> ic
[07:02] <hyphenated> Madpilot: I'd prefer to know why they call it the world series, when they don't invite anybody else
[07:02] <hyphenated> (baseball)
[07:02] <crimsun> walter: tar xfj alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1.tar.bz2
[07:02] <Vaske_Car> benplaut: so what do you prefer for Corel replacement?
[07:02] <cafuego_> Madpilot: We are able to call 20:00 "eight o' clock", as opposed to twenty-houndred-hours!!!
[07:02] <ramah> well they gota promote it somehow
[07:02] <RedGhost> http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/218/takebacktheweb1fd6qr.jpg
[07:02] <ramah> no one watches baseball anymore anymore
[07:03] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, inkscape, although it's kinda limited
[07:03] <Vaske_Car> :)
[07:03] <Madpilot> hyphenated: blame the New York World (newspaper) for the "World" Series... ;)
[07:03] <benplaut> i sorta stopped doing vectors when i switched, unfortunately
[07:03] <cafuego_> Madpilot: the altter is "military time" and the former "24h time".
[07:03] <Kazuhiro> hi all
[07:04] <ramah> hi
[07:04] <[Spooky] > anyone with a link for making a partition ?
[07:04] <Kazuhiro> Any one running 5.10 and could tell me what version of ruby is installed
[07:04] <erik_> So I'm the only one here to have SDL kill X?
[07:04] <cafuego_> [Spooky] : 'fdisk'
[07:04] <cafuego_> !info ruby breezy
[07:04] <ubotu> ruby: (An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.8.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[07:04] <walter> I dont seem to have that I have a .runfile
[07:04] <Vaske_Car> benplaut: where did you find that sodipodi is not in active developement?
[07:04] <kalias> cafuego_: Okay, I see no reference in there to tty.  Does this mean the drivers are not loaded?
[07:04] <tga> inkscape?
[07:04] <Madpilot> cafuego_: sure - except that civilian pilots use "twenty-hundred-hours" as well... ah well, just one of those oddities...
[07:04] <benplaut> last time i looked, a few months ago
[07:05] <cafuego_> kalias: indeed. I'm fairly sure 'modprobe serial' ought to load 'em.
[07:05] <Kazuhiro> cafuego_, Thanks for that
[07:05] <crimsun> walter: afterward, cd alsa-driver-1.0.10rc1 && nano pci/ac97/ac97_bus.c
[07:05] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, last release in 2004 (can't tell what month)
[07:05] <kalias> cafuego_: Bad news. Module serial not found.
[07:05] <walter> crimsun,  the file i downloaded was a.runfile
[07:06] <Vaske_Car> roger... it need time .. maybe one day :)
[07:06] <crimsun> walter: replace the line #include <linux/module.h> with  #include   <sound/driver.h>
[07:06] <cafuego_> Madpilot: Yes, but in piloting you need to make SURE you don't mess up. Like "Eight Papa Mike"
[07:06] <cafuego_> kalias: woo!
[07:06] <crimsun> walter: no, you want a tar.bz2. See the URL I pasted above.
[07:06] <Kazuhiro> !info gnome breezy
[07:06] <ubotu> gnome: (The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1:<IP_ADDRESS> (breezy), Packaged size: 10 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[07:06] <kalias> cafuego_: Hmmm..that does not sound good :(
[07:07] <Vaske_Car> benplaut: no shadow option in Inscape?
[07:07] <walter> my mistake im downloading the right one now and i will extraxt it then cd into that dir
[07:08] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, i don't think so...
[07:08] <benplaut> CorelDraw 11 is supposed to be emulatable, i've never gotten it to work
[07:08] <bur[n] er_> anyone else notice that breezy doesn't have a "run" option from teh menus??
[07:09] <Madpilot> bur[n] er: i'd heard it was going to be removed...
[07:09] <deFrysk> bur[n] er, use alt-f
[07:09] <deFrysk> bur[n] er, use alt-f2
[07:09] <Myrtti> mornin all
[07:09] <erik_> morning?  where are you? (myrtti)
[07:10] <deFrysk> also run option is in 'add to panel' now
[07:10] <Myrtti> oh mama what piccies
[07:10] <Myrtti> hot love
[07:10] <Myrtti> erm
[07:10] <Myrtti> erik_: Finland
[07:11] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: is the "rose" irssi theme yours?
[07:11] <walter> one sec crimsun
[07:11] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: yes
[07:11] <Myrtti> tho I've updated it
[07:11] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: aha!
[07:11] <Myrtti> the one in the web has bugs with hilight
[07:11] <erik_> myrtti: think I'm on the other side of the world -- Hawaii
[07:11] <nalioth> Myrtti: irssi themes?
[07:11] <Myrtti> nalioth: yes
[07:12] <Myrtti> and now, something completely different. http://www2.xfreehosting.com/teen/dapaura/nerd/
[07:12] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: oh - any url for the fixed version?
[07:12] <omp342> do you guys know any note-taking applications that will sit in the taskbar and remind me to read the notes?
[07:12] <Myrtti> none, but I can put it on my web if you wanna
[07:12] <omp342> i seriously need a program like this
[07:12] <Myrtti> omp342: if you keep an todo, gtodo and gtodo-applett
[07:12] <Myrtti> if you run gnome
[07:12] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: if you can - I'll have a play with it :)
[07:13] <omp342> yes i have gnome
[07:13] <Myrtti> you'll find them in synaptic
[07:13] <[Spooky] > fdisk dosnt help mutch...
[07:13] <omp342> okay
[07:13] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: one sec
[07:13] <omp342> thanks a lot
[07:13] <kalias> cafuego_: I checked my installed software and there doesn't appear to be any serial installed.
[07:13] <[Spooky] > anyone with a guide on creating/mounting a partition ?
[07:14] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: http://velhottaret.net/~myrtti/roses.theme
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> google has dozens of tutorials on  mounting drives
[07:14] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: thanks :)
[07:14] <Invader_Zim> How can I get sound to work in 3d games?
[07:14] <jcd1006> is there any code you can use in linux to spam someone in aim?
[07:14] <jcd1006> or track their ip?
[07:15] <hyphenated> Invader_Zim: which game(s)?
[07:15] <Cashel> howdies
[07:15] <Invader_Zim> I have it working in all apps but no sound in tuxracer,kart for example.
[07:15] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: it was made when I still lived in XP-bliss
[07:15] <[Spooky] > Dr_Willis: ok, but i need to create to be able to mount...
[07:15] <Invader_Zim> I have not tried quake yet.
[07:15] <bur[n] er_> deFrysk: thanks for the add to panel tip... i knew about alt+f2, but that's tough when using VNC ;)
[07:15] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: hah
[07:15] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: so the rose leaves might look a bit funny
[07:15] <Invader_Zim> Missing sdl?
[07:15] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: I'll try it now
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> [Spooky] ,  that made no sence to me.
[07:16] <wjesusaxl> guys I have a huge problem with my sound card.. I've just installed in my computer and it seems that my PC can't recognize it
[07:16] <nalioth> Myrtti: pardon my ignorance, but what does a theme do in irssi?
[07:16] <kalias> cafuego_:  Maybe I need to install one of the serial module in synaptic?
[07:16] <bur[n] er_> nalioth: colors
[07:16] <Myrtti> nalioth: changes the colouring, perhaps adds a few bit
[07:16] <Myrtti> like my roses.
[07:16] <nalioth> Myrtti: hmmm
[07:16] <Myrtti> It underlines your own text
[07:16] <bur[n] er_> or like my blackasnight ;)
[07:16] <wjesusaxl> is there a way it could recognize the changes....
[07:17] <Myrtti> I like it that way, so I know when I've said something
[07:17] <Myrtti> lemme show you an old screenshot
[07:17] <ksmurf> Anyone know why transparency won't work with gdeslets in breezy?
[07:17] <[Spooky] > Dr_Willis: look at my question then...
[07:18] <Invader_Zim> ok I'm changing sdloss to sdlalsa and sdlesd
[07:18] <omp342> Myrtti: i got both gtodo and gtodo-applet through apt-get, gtodo works fine, but how can i get it to show up in notification area?
[07:18] <crimsun> walter: ping me when you're ready
[07:18] <Myrtti> http://velhottaret.net/~myrtti/screenshotit.html
[07:19] <walter> crabstic,  it is currently #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_bus.c"
[07:19] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: aha! Nice! The roses look fine here :)
[07:19] <Myrtti> omp342: not in the notification area, I think
[07:19] <wjesusaxl> guys I have a huge problem with my sound card.. I've just installed in my computer and it seems that my PC can't recognize it
[07:19] <Myrtti> you put gtodo-applet on the panel
[07:19] <omp342> ohh
[07:19] <omp342> :)
[07:19] <Myrtti> that should do the trick, if I'm not mistaken
[07:20] <omp342> yay it worked
[07:20] <omp342> Myrtti: thanks A LOT :)
[07:20] <Vaske_Car> benplaut: cant believe there is no tool that support shadow option...
[07:20] <Myrtti> omp342: np :-)
[07:20] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: thanks.
[07:20] <benplaut> Vaske_Car, like i was saying, it's feature lacking :(
[07:20] <omp342> now i can keep track of schoolwork :)
[07:20] <Myrtti> I have a new one that hasn't been released on t.i.o because the site is waiting for an update
[07:20] <Myrtti> it's green and black and yellow.
[07:21] <Myrtti> based on hukka-theme
[07:21] <RedGhost> is there a plugin to play .wmv with either vlc or totem
[07:21] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: I might have to tweak the highlighting - my messages disappear on this background - but I like it - thank you!
[07:21] <Invader_Zim> Ok I fixed the sound in sdl .
[07:21] <robotgeek> !codecs
[07:21] <ubotu> [codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:21] <Madpilot> !tell RedGhost about restricted
[07:21] <Myrtti> thoreauputic: :-)
[07:22] <Myrtti> geez I like this nailpolish
[07:22] <robotgeek> Myrtti: a irssi theme?
[07:22] <Myrtti> robotgeek: yes.
[07:22] <Vaske_Car> !streams
[07:22] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: No idea
[07:22] <walter> Crimguy,  i am going to start over sorry
[07:22] <nalioth> thoreauputic: you know what you wrote, anyway
[07:22] <Invader_Zim> anyone with sdl sound issues install libsdl1.2debian-esd
[07:22] <robotgeek> Myrtti: i use fear2 myself
[07:22] <walter> crimsun,
[07:22] <Myrtti> robotgeek: I use my own :-)
[07:22] <robotgeek> Myrtti: good for you :)
[07:22] <thoreauputic> nalioth: hahah - oh I have a lousy short term memory ;)
[07:22] <Myrtti> hmmm
[07:22] <bob2> No1Viking: I didn't say gftp had SSL support
[07:22] <Vaske_Car> !winamp
[07:22] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: Are you smoking crack?
[07:23] <Myrtti> should I take a new screenshot
[07:23] <Vaske_Car> lol
[07:23] <Myrtti> I think I should
[07:23] <Myrtti> but before that...
[07:23] <chavo> why does the bot always ask for crack?
[07:23] <vividan> Hey guys, I'm having issues with X... it appears I'm stuck in 640x480.  Any willing to help me change that?
[07:23] <benplaut> !xserver
[07:23] <ubotu> benplaut: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[07:24] <chavo> 640x480 is all anyone should ever need :)
[07:24] <benplaut> !xserver-xorg
[07:24] <ubotu> benplaut: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:24] <Madpilot> !+msg the bot
[07:24] <ubotu> methinks msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword
[07:24] <AzMoo> Does anybody know why aterms transparency would screw up when I resize it, or change which desktop I'm viewing?
[07:24] <chavo> higher resolutions cost extra
[07:24] <benplaut> Madpilot, i know, i know
[07:24] <Invader_Zim> xorgconfig answer the questions.
[07:24] <ramah> this question is kinda silly but my biggest problem is that I can't find the dirs for programs install with the package manager.. is there a place that most installs go?
[07:24] <Invader_Zim> My error sudo xorgconfig
[07:24] <benplaut> vividan, "sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal
[07:24] <bob2> ramah: no, there's no single place
[07:25] <vividan> Invader_Zim, chavo, benplaut thanks
[07:25] <bob2> ramah: programs from packages usually go in /usr/bin, tho
[07:25] <ramah> thank you
[07:25] <Madpilot> ramah: if you select an installed packing in Synpatic, right click, chose options, and one of the tabs will show you whre everything went
[07:25] <walter> crabstic,  the file says #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_bus.c"
[07:25] <Vaske_Car> I still cant make online radio to play :(
[07:25] <chavo> damn, ubotu doesn't have any crack either
[07:25] <Invader_Zim> You might need binary packages I did.
[07:25] <ramah> Madpilot: thanx
[07:25] <walter> crimsun,  the file says #include "../../alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_bus.c"
[07:25] <crimsun> walter: ok, that's fine.
[07:25] <crimsun> walter: sudo nano alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_bus.c
[07:26] <kalias> if you do modprobe serial and get FATAL: Module serial not found. What doe this mean?
[07:26] <crimsun> walter: thereabout line 14 should be #include <linux/module.h>
[07:26] <oolon> Vaske_Car, what site or app you trying to open it with?
[07:26] <Cashel> ramah, doing a slocate -u one then after the eon it takes to finish doing "locate (part of package" helps me a lot when I'm trying to run down where things are....
[07:26] <Vaske_Car> www.di.fm  there is a list
[07:26] <crimsun> walter: replace that with #include <sound/driver.h>
[07:27] <Vaske_Car> oolon:scrool down
[07:27] <No1Viking> bob2: Well it has
[07:27] <No1Viking> So you were right
[07:27] <Chupacabr> Hi guys, trying to install kubuntu on my bondie blue imac, I keep getting an apic error, could anyone help me out, thanx in advance
[07:27] <ramah> Cashel: Thank you
[07:27] <oolon> which one did you try?
[07:27] <Cashel> np :)
[07:27] <Cashel> ramah, slocate -u  .. once I meant, not one :P
[07:27] <walter> done and saved the file
[07:28] <oolon> Vaske_Car, which one did you try?
[07:28] <Vaske_Car> trance  the first one
[07:28] <Vaske_Car> click on 96k
[07:28] <Chupacabr> is it possible to install kubuntu on such a prehistoric imac anyways, don't know if I'm wasting my time
[07:28] <kalias> cafuego_:  You still there?
[07:29] <Vaske_Car> oolon: i used to play that with SuSE
[07:29] <vividan> benplaut: sudo dpkg reconfigure xerver-org says it needs an action
[07:29] <benplaut> oops
[07:29] <oolon> Vaske_Car, i got a 404 error
[07:29] <crimsun> walter: ok, now: ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-isapnp=no --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[07:29] <No1Viking> bob2: Needed openssl and libssl-dev + all depencies. After that I did ./configure --enable-ssl and gftp with SSL worked!  =)
[07:29] <benplaut> sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorgt
[07:29] <benplaut> sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:29] <Vaske_Car> see that red square with yellow 96K ???
[07:29] <No1Viking> bob2: dependencies, sorry
[07:29] <nalioth> vividan: you forgot the "-" dpkg-reconfigue xserver-xorg
[07:29] <Vaske_Car> near Winamp icon
[07:30] <vividan> ahhh, awesome
[07:30] <oolon> Vaske_Car, i see i clicked it and got an error the link might be bad
[07:31] <Vaske_Car> oolon: it starting download here without problem
[07:31] <Vaske_Car> oolon: im using Firefox btw...
[07:31] <walter> it finnsihed
[07:32] <oolon> Vaske_Car, oh ok i was trying to open it with xmms directly
[07:32] <crimsun> walter: after configure finishes, execute: make
[07:32] <oolon> Vaske_Car, i'll dl the pls
[07:32] <Vaske_Car> oolon: it working now... with Rhythmbox
[07:32] <Vaske_Car> oolon: strange
[07:33] <Vaske_Car> oolon: this is direct link to put in the player: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:80/stream/1003
[07:34] <crimsun> walter: after make completes, make install
[07:34] <crimsun> walter: then you can reboot
[07:34] <oolon> Vaske_Car, it's working in Kaffeine
[07:34] <Vaske_Car> oolon: thats Winamp clone?
[07:35] <Chupacabr> I'm getting this message when trying to load the kubuntu live cd on my first generation imac,  ohci_hcd 0000:00:14:0: Unlik after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC settings may help
[07:36] <walter> alter: after make completes, make install
[07:36] <walter> crimsun walter: then you can reboot
[07:36] <walter> sorry
[07:36] <walter> there was compiler errors
[07:36] <kalias> exit
[07:36] <crimsun> walter: what sort?
[07:36] <vividan> benplaut:  I'm still stuck at 640x480...  You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:37] <nalioth> walter: do not paste in here
[07:37] <bob2> are you really sure you should be doing that?
[07:37] <walter> ok sorry last time
[07:37] <Vaske_Car> ubotu: Kaffeine is just for KDA?
[07:37] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: okay
[07:37] <Chupacabr> I'm getting this message when trying to load the kubuntu live cd on my first generation imac,  ohci_hcd 0000:00:14:0: Unlik after no-IRQ? Different ACPI or APIC settings may help
[07:38] <crimsun> walter: you need to disable pcmcia, too, using a ./configure option
[07:38] <robotgeek> damn, compiling vlc is a big pain!
[07:38] <bob2> Chupacabr: no need to repeat, everyone saw your question
[07:38] <walter> ok
[07:38] <bob2> you forgot to mention what version of kubuntu you were using, tho
[07:38] <Chupacabr> sorry, I'm so frustated and sleepy
[07:38] <bob2> nor whether any other distros work
[07:39] <oolon> Vaske_Car, seems you need KDE
[07:39] <Chupacabr> 5.04
[07:39] <Vaske_Car> :(
[07:39] <vividan> Anyone else have an idea why X would use 640x480 when it's config file says nothing about 640x480?
[07:40] <oolon> Vaske_Car, have no fear http://xinehq.de/index.php/releases
[07:40] <bob2> because that's the default that it found
[07:40] <Chupacabr> I've only tried the 5.04 Kubuntu live cd, I'm sick of mac os and would like to try out kubuntu
[07:40] <bob2> presumably you already read the page on the wiki for fixing this
[07:40] <bob2> in which case, file a bug
[07:40] <vividan> the wiki is somewhere on ubuntu.org?
[07:40] <reter> you know how you can connect to a ssh in 'places'
[07:40] <oolon> vividan, is it a live disc running in framebuffer?
[07:40] <nalioth> vividan: wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:40] <bob2> vividan: wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:40] <walter> whats the argument to disable pcmcia
[07:41] <crimsun> robotgeek: why are you recompiling vlc?
[07:41] <bob2> vividan: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:41] <Chupacabr> so it could be a file on the disk right
[07:41] <reter> well i am connected to ssh but i dont know how to type in commands. i get like a windows like menu with no prompt
[07:41] <vividan> cool, nope, fresh install of ubuntu (my first ubuntu install, been using linux/debian for years)
[07:41] <bob2> reter: ignore it then and use ssh normally
[07:41] <bob2> Chupacabr: "it"?
[07:42] <Chupacabr> the error that I'm getting could be related to a file on the live cd
[07:42] <reter> reter: but how do i get the prompt command
[07:42] <reter> bob2: but how do i get the prompt command
[07:43] <bob2> reter: I don't know what a "prompt command" is
[07:43] <bob2> Chupacabr: did yo ucheck the the md5sum of the cd?
[07:43] <Chupacabr> I'm a noob so sorry, seen my friend using ubuntu and since I saw the new kubuntu release I thought I'd try it
[07:43] <Vaske_Car> Im very happy with Ubuntu :) found all I need except vector drawing software that have shaddow support :)
[07:44] <Chupacabr> everything seemed fine on the md5sum bob2
[07:44] <reter> bob2: like c:/
[07:44] <bob2> reter: this is not DOS
[07:44] <bob2> Chupacabr: "seemed fine"?
[07:44] <reter> bob2: i know but i am giving an example of what i mean
[07:44] <crimsun> walter: (test-building)
[07:44] <silverton> how do I get firefox to update?
[07:45] <Chupacabr> I compared it to the same file which my friend has on his live cd and it is exact
[07:45] <bob2> reter: so, open gnome-terminal, and run 'ssh user@hostname'
[07:45] <walter> crimsun,  what do i do
[07:45] <silverton> nevermind, I got it
[07:45] <bob2> Chupacabr: what file are you talking about?
[07:45] <karen_> added a 2nd CD drive.  is there something I need to do to make it automount?
[07:45] <bob2> silverton: firefox in hoary is the latest version...
[07:45] <vu> Need help installinjg ubuntu on a laptop with a very old CDROM that cannot boot the iso image I downloaded.
[07:45] <bimberi> reter, connecting through the places menu is like using sftp - you need to use ssh from the terminal
[07:45] <Chupacabr> th2 md5sum on the live cd
[07:45] <karen_> vu - SMB... just a sec
[07:46] <CaiN_SA> ok
[07:46] <CaiN_SA> i had breezy
[07:46] <jcd1006> is there a way to set up ubuntu so that after the computer being idle or so long it will make you reenter the password to do anything on it?
[07:46] <CaiN_SA> or hoary rather
[07:46] <CaiN_SA> and uppdated it to breezy
[07:46] <bob2> jcd1006: sure, tell it to lock the screen
[07:46] <CaiN_SA> how do i get usplash to work ?
[07:46] <CaiN_SA> bob2, :P elo
[07:46] <bob2> jcd1006: system -> preferences -> screensaver
[07:46] <jcd1006> bob2: will like gaim stay connected?
[07:46] <karen_> vu - SMB https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:47] <CaiN_SA> yes jcd1006
[07:47] <bob2> jcd1006: of course, all it does is lock the screen
[07:47] <CaiN_SA> !usplash
[07:47] <ubotu> somebody said usplash was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss
[07:47] <AzMoo> How can I see what speed my harddrive is running at? It seems to be going very slowly.
[07:47] <bob2> AzMoo: "speed"?
[07:47] <CaiN_SA> hdparm /dev/hdd
[07:47] <Chupacabr> thanks for all the help guys, boy am I glad I checked out the channel
[07:47] <AzMoo> bob2, udma66 100, etc
[07:47] <bob2> CaiN_SA: read mdz's post on the topic
[07:47] <bob2> Chupacabr: wtf
[07:47] <AzMoo> CaiN_SA, cheers
[07:47] <bob2> idiot
[07:47] <CaiN_SA> wheres that bob2  ?
[07:48] <Masterkong> yo
[07:48] <Masterkong> i have a question
[07:48] <vu> karen_,  Lemme check it out thanx ;-)
[07:48] <Madpilot> !tell Masterkong about ask
[07:48] <bob2> CaiN_SA: http://lwn.net/Articles/148200/
[07:49] <AzMoo> hrmm. using_dma is on. Why the hell is my box going so slow? :(
[07:49] <Masterkong> oops wrong button
[07:49] <Masterkong> ok
[07:49] <bob2> glxgears
[07:49] <bob2> is
[07:49] <bob2> not
[07:49] <bob2> a
[07:49] <bob2> benchmark
[07:49] <bob2> at
[07:49] <bob2> all
[07:49] <No1Viking> LOL
[07:49] <Cashel> I know hehe
[07:49] <[Chameleon] > ok
[07:49] <[Chameleon] > bob2
[07:49] <bimberi> l. o. l.
[07:50] <AzMoo> but its cool to say you got 1500 fps ;)
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> thx bob2
[07:50] <bob2> few things annoy me more than people who just put my nick on a line
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> lol
[07:50] <bob2> with nothing else
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> you can benchmark your hdd
[07:50] <crimsun> walter: here's the configure line you need: ./configure --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build --with-isapnp=no --with-sequencer=yes --with-oss=yes --with-pcmcia=kernel
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> with hdparm !!!!!!!!!!1
[07:50] <crimsun> walter: it compiles fine here
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> it has a paramater
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> to do it
[07:50] <bob2> hdparm is also not a benchmarking tool
[07:50] <bob2> bonnie++ is the tool you'd use for that
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> yes
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> but you can test your hdd
[07:50] <CaiN_SA> with hdparm
[07:51] <bob2> not usefully
[07:51] <Cashel> bob2, so if I'm trying to improve opengl performance, what should I do?
[07:51] <bob2> do you know what -tT tests?
[07:51] <CaiN_SA> will get you rough idea
[07:51] <bob2> Cashel: you haven't given nearly enough detail for me to guess
[07:51] <CaiN_SA> there are 2 tests bob2
[07:51] <walter> crabstic, will i just do another make
[07:51] <bob2> CaiN_SA: do you know what either of them do?
[07:51] <Masterkong> i've got my soundcard to play other samples right than 48kHz, wich it didnt do before.. anyway.. i seem to be stuck with som sort of "clicking" in my speakers when i play anything
[07:51] <AzMoo> I seem to have a severe lack of system resources. It's taking about 30 seconds to open firefox, a good 5 seconds to switch between desktops, and the harddrive is going nuts. Any idea how I can speed it up, or find what's using everything?
[07:52] <Masterkong> plus the sound i'm playing of course
[07:52] <omp342> hmm
[07:52] <CaiN_SA> tests random read speeds
[07:52] <crimsun> walter: after you rerun that configure, yes
[07:52] <CaiN_SA> and stuff
[07:52] <CaiN_SA> i dont use it
[07:52] <bob2> AzMoo: and the system specs are and the the version of ubuntu is and the dma status is ...
[07:52] <Cashel> I just updated from fglrx_6_8_0-8.14.13 to fglrx_6_8_0-8.16.20 in hopes of getting a better fps (1500 seems to slow compared to what others were getting in glxgears) .. at first xorg was having problems finding libgl until I used a dpkg-divert line so it would work.. now the new driver is working as opengl but apps such as glxgears or gl-117 seg fault after a little bit of use... any ideas what my problem might be?
[07:52] <bob2> CaiN_SA: no, it doesn't test that
[07:52] <CaiN_SA> then what
[07:52] <bob2> read the manpage
[07:52] <CaiN_SA> if your hdd is f,....
[07:52] <CaiN_SA> you will be able to see
[07:52] <bob2> if you want to test your disk, use bonnie++
[07:52] <crimsun> walter: then, make && make install
[07:52] <omp342> when i test port 6881 in azureus it says okay, but almost all torrents get a connetion refused error when connecting to tracker
[07:52] <crimsun> walter: sorry, need to leave work now
[07:52] <AzMoo> bob2, celeron 2Ghz, 256MB of RAM. Hoary. dma status = on.
[07:53] <bob2> Cashel: the ATI drivers in ubuntu didn't work at all?
[07:53] <Cashel> bob2, only as 2d
[07:53] <bob2> Cashel: no, I mean, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:53] <CaiN_SA> bob2 :  -t     Perform  timings  of device reads for benchmark and comparison purposes.
[07:53] <Invader_Zim> I got flgrx to work on amd based stuff
[07:53] <bob2> the ATI binary drivers
[07:53] <bob2> CaiN_SA: yes, I read the manpage
[07:53] <CaiN_SA> -T     Perform  timings  of  cache reads for benchmark and comparison purposes.
[07:53] <CaiN_SA> thus
[07:53] <CaiN_SA> he will be able
[07:54] <Cashel> those are the ati binary drivers.... let me go read that url I'm not following I guess...