[11:32] <aquarius> I'd like to do the equivalent of bzr cat from a Python script -- that is, write a function which takes an lp URL for a file and returns the content of that file. Is the best approach to call the bzr cat command object and give it a StringIO to output into (which I can't work out how to do), or to do the things that the command object *does* myself?
[11:38] <aquarius> I *think* the way to do it is this:
[11:39] <aquarius> from bzrlib.plugin import load_plugins;load_plugins();from bzrlib.branch import Branch;remote_branch_url = 'lp:~sil/+junk/ucs-demo-app';b = Branch.open(remote_branch_url); tree=b.basis_tree(); file_id=tree.path2id('ubuntu_component_store.json'); print tree.get_file_text(file_id)
[11:42] <james_w> aquarius: that looks about right
[11:42] <aquarius> cool, I'm not doing anything insane, then :)
[11:43] <aquarius> am I better to check the file exists with tree.has_id first, or do I end up hitting the network twice then and so I should just catch exceptions on tree.path2id?
[11:45] <james_w> aquarius: catching an exception makes more sense I thinnk
[11:45] <james_w> aquarius: or I think it returns None in fact
[11:45] <aquarius> cool, then I'll just do it and check :)


[01:29] <AtomicSpark> When pushing my branch for the first time (lp:~atomicspark/ubuntu-docs/karmic), I recieved: Using default stacking branch /~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-docs/lucid at lp-65401296:///~atomicspark/ubuntu-docs
[01:29] <AtomicSpark> Is this expected and normal?
[02:58] <skiquel> j1mc!
[02:58] <skiquel> :)
[02:58] <j1mc> skiquel: howdy
[03:32] <j1mc> skiquel: what are you doing in ubuntu-doc?  are you helping with the kubuntu docs?
[03:58] <Rocket2DMn> AtomicSpark, were yo upresented with any errors when you pushed?
[03:59] <Rocket2DMn> AtomicSpark, also, you should assign the bug to yourself and mark it In Progress if you're working on it.
[04:00] <AtomicSpark> Ah.
[04:00] <AtomicSpark> That works. :)
[04:01] <AtomicSpark> Sorry if there was... spamming. I was playing around with my branch. Done now.
[04:01] <Rocket2DMn> its actually easier if you just get a local branch of ubuntu-docs, make your change, then post a patch on the bug
[04:01] <AtomicSpark> Oh?
[04:01] <Rocket2DMn> like: bzr diff > ~/some_file.patch
[04:01] <Rocket2DMn> then just attach that file
[04:02] <Rocket2DMn> that way the committers don't have to pull from your branch, we can just apply the patch to our own copies
[04:03] <AtomicSpark> That's much easier for me too. :\
[04:04] <Rocket2DMn> hehe, good
[04:16] <Rocket2DMn> well, thank you for helping out AtomicSpark , we really appreciate it
[04:16] <Rocket2DMn> im gonna sign off right now though, if you post some patches sometime, i'll check them out when i get a chance
[04:16] <AtomicSpark> So after I post a patch, should I change it to fix commited?
[04:17] <AtomicSpark> Not quick enough!
[06:12] <AtomicSpark> So, what is the difference between wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com/community. which should someone use when writing articles for software?
[06:12] <cody-somerville> wiki.ubuntu.com is not for help docs
[06:13] <cody-somerville> Its for Ubuntu teams
[06:13] <AtomicSpark> So why do people push the wiki? Just out of habit or ignorance? :P
[06:13] <Flannel> AtomicSpark: Help docs are the latter, the former is for team stuffs
[06:14] <Flannel> AtomicSpark: They're both wikis, depending on your realm of content, each is appropriate
[06:18] <AtomicSpark> A well disguised wiki. :)
[06:24] <Flannel> AtomicSpark: Not when you're logged in


[14:16] <Lope> hey guys, I've removed linux-image-generic and the generic headers and associated packages, in favour of linux-image-kvm etc. I don't have any amdgpu package installed and yet I still have ubuntu /usr/lib/firmware/netronome and ubuntu /usr/lib/firmware/amdgpu taking up a few hundred mb of space?
[14:18] <Lope> cool, I did a yolo, removed the linux-firmware package. The VM still boots, and much less disk space used now.
[15:36] <luna> Ubuntu backports meeting today?
[16:01] <luna> yeah
[19:00] <ahasenack> sergiodj: why is there no kinetic task for the openldap mre? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/2007625
[19:00] -ubottu:#ubuntu-server- Launchpad bug 2007625 in openldap (Ubuntu Jammy) "New upstream microrelease 2.5.14" [High, In Progress]
[19:01] <ahasenack> because when it started, the latest was 2.5.13, and kinetic had it already?
[19:01] <sergiodj> ahasenack: I guess I was following the MRE document too closely.  in there, I wrote that I was going to release MREs for Jammy, and didn't mention Kinetic (because at the time it didn't exist)
[19:02] <sergiodj> ahasenack: let me correct that and prepare the MRE for Kinetic as well
[19:02] <ahasenack> ok
[19:02] <ahasenack> then I can get to it tomorrow in my sru day
[19:02] <sergiodj> thank you for the message
[19:02] <sergiodj> that'd be awesome, thanks


[19:03] <applepi> infinity: around?  :)
[19:15] <infinity> applepi: Sort of.  Pretty busy today.
[19:16] <applepi> infinity: no worries I may have just tracked down the issue.  :)
[19:18] <infinity> Oh?
[19:36] <applepi> infinity: been trying out the kernel you passed me to test...  it still can't seem to boot but it appears modules.dep is missing but I think I should be able to generate it if I can chroot in with the right uname and depmod
[19:46] <infinity> applepi: Yeah, we run depmod on install, it's not shipped.
[19:46] <applepi> Yeah
[19:47] <applepi> Makes it unhappy on boot D:
[19:47] <applepi> No worries I think I can figure it out..  qemu-arm can take a uname as an arg...
[19:48] <infinity> applepi: depmod takes a version argument.
[19:49] <infinity> ie: 'depmod 3.13.0-17-generic'
[19:49] <applepi> bloody hell..  -_-;
[19:50] <applepi> I didn't realize.
[19:50] <applepi> Thanks :)


[05:55] <fabbione> dilinger: ping?
[05:56] <dilinger> pong
[05:56] <fabbione> yo
[05:56] <fabbione> dilinger: multipath-tool question..
[05:56] <dilinger> hiya
[05:56] <dilinger> oh, i've never touched it
[05:56] <fabbione> oh crap
[05:56] <dilinger> sorry :)
[05:57] <fabbione> dilinger: so the only person is waldi?
[05:59] <dilinger> yea
[05:59] <dilinger> i haven't really done anything w/ lvm2 since i gave the package to pjc
[05:59] <fabbione> yeah
[06:00] <fabbione> i will look at it with pjc
[06:00] <dilinger> is he still working at sistina/redhat?
[06:00] <fabbione> yes
[06:00] <dilinger> cool
[06:00] <fabbione> #linux-cluster here on freenode
[06:01] <dilinger> i was gonna meet them (pjc, agk, and ejt) at one point, but i had a cold while they were in town
[06:01] <fabbione> eheh
[08:05] <dilinger> lamont: lustre has been around for a while; the clusterfs people only recently started doing sane releases of it
[08:05] <dilinger> some research group in sweden actually sent me their debian packaging for it, but i haven't had time to play w/ it
[08:06] <lamont> dilinger: thanks
[08:06] <dilinger> it splits apart metadata and data onto separate servers, and accesses each by objects
[08:06] <dilinger> scales quite nicely
[08:14] <dilinger> is there something like cg-admin-uncommit in just basic git?


[12:34] <Alex93> Hello! A question about Guitarix. Will the new version 0.40, which is a "a complete rework" as stated on the Linux Musicians  forum, get into the official Ubuntu Studio repositories soon?
[12:57] <Eickmeyer> Alex93: Any updates that have new features cannot be added to 20.04 after release, but we might be able to add it to our backports PPA.
[12:58] <Eickmeyer> !ubuntustudio-backports
[13:00] <Alex93> Ok, thank you! Have a nice day!


[00:00] <Jaded> Cool, I got compiz working
[00:01] <Jaded> http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/xubuntu-compiz-pretty-pretty-xubuntu/
[00:01] <Jaded> used that
[00:01] <Jaded> sorry rotura, you'll probably have to make a thread on ubuntuforums
[00:01] <rotura> Thanks Jaded :-)
[00:02] <Jaded> I'm not sure if it's the 3d acceleration or not, but xubuntu is def a lot snappier now.
[00:02] <Jaded> i think what helped was opening nvidia x server settings, and setting up my monitor and then creating a xorg.conf file from that
[00:02] <Jaded> all through the nvidia GUI
[00:25] <Jaded> Sysi.
[00:25] <Jaded> I'm about to try LXDE :)
[00:28] <Unit193> Jaded: LXDE as in Lubuntu?
[00:31] <Jaded> no
[00:31] <Jaded> I'm installing the LXDE packages
[02:46] <draioch> hi anyone about to help pls
[02:48] <GridCube> !ask
[02:53] <draioch> used a linux format mag distro of latest xubuntu and choose retain folers files option, dual boot option comes up when i opt for me original xubuntu is can see files with ls in terminal but how do i copy them to usb drive
[02:55] <GridCube> you cant see the folder using thunar?
[02:56] <GridCube> or you dont have X?
[02:57] <GridCube> anyway use sudo apt-get install mc              and then run mc on a terminal and its pretty explainatory, on one side go to the /media/usbdrivename and on the other side to the folder you want to copy, then copy from one pane to the other
[02:57] <draioch> thx grid cube ru u the person that saves me thx
[02:58] <draioch> wait sys restart gonna reboot
[04:29] <boby> hi
[04:29] <boby> i have a problem with xubuntu desktop
[05:46] <thunder1212> hi
[05:46] <thunder1212> i have just installed xubuntu on my desktop
[05:46] <thunder1212> i have little ram 384 mb only :)
[05:46] <thunder1212> can u suggest some method to optimize xubuntu
[05:52] <thunder1212> ??
[06:00] <TheSheep> thunder1212: use something lighter than firefox
[06:00] <TheSheep> thunder1212: like chromium or midori
[06:03] <thunder1212> ok
[06:03] <thunder1212> TheSheep: i will use chrome..
[06:04] <thunder1212> thnx
[06:04] <thunder1212> TheSheep: i just checked the system monitor, firefox was using 64mb of my memory
[06:05] <TheSheep> thunder1212: I call it firehog ;)
[06:05] <TheSheep> thunder1212: also flashblock helps
[06:13] <thunder1212> TheSheep: how is linux mint xfce debian edition ?
[06:14] <thunder1212> TheSheep: i want a very userfriendly desktop
[06:23] <TheSheep> thunder1212: never used it
[07:15] <Wizard> good morning everybody
[16:48] <pteague_work> any idea why X would be eating up 40-45% cpu on a consistent basis?
[16:50] <Sysi> pteague_work: problem with some application or driver
[16:50] <pteague_work> intel video card \o/
[17:13] <charlie-tca> pteague_work: firefox?
[17:13] <charlie-tca> It has been known to do stupid things to cpus and memory
[17:14] <charlie-tca> but it could be a panel plugin doing it too.
[20:25] <pteague_work> sorry, ended up in a meeting & i can't seem to get xchat to continue blinking for more than a couple seconds :(
[20:26] <pteague_work> charlie-tca, i'm running both firefox & netbeans & i my work issued laptop is a single-core cpu >.<
[23:42] <mattman> anyone out there that wants to help me with ndiswrapper?
[23:46] <GridCube> !ask | mattman55
[23:52] <mattman55> Ok, I use a dlink dwl-650+ wireless card. I have used ndiswrapper before to install the drivers from WinXP using ndisgtk on ubuntu 10.04. now i am using xubuntu 10.04. when I run lshw -C network I get a *-network UNCLAIMED. i seem to remember getting this issue before. as a pointout, it does say that it is ACX100 Wireless interface, but I have tried the acx100 drivers already. also, when i try iwconfig, wlan0 does not show up, just lo and eth0. Thanks
[23:52] <mattman55> in advance for any help.


[03:27] <fairuz> yosh ejat
[03:28] <ejat> akhirnya ..
[03:28] <ejat> ade pun ..
[03:28] <ejat> fairuz, bile leh jumpa .. urgent nie
[03:28] <ejat> huhu
[07:25] <angch> can't understand,  can't help: https://plus.google.com/110185160571149447288/posts/iaGEyfi5VRx
[07:32] <excalibr> I can understand but it annoys me so much reading all the shortforms
[07:37] <fairuz> heh


[14:22] <cmaloney> morning
[16:13] <_stink_> yo
[17:08] <cmaloney> hiw goes the day?
[17:24] <Scary_Guy> Afternoon.


[00:02] <wxl> Gusj: i've seen some kernel module problems in i8042 in and around the version in 18.. might want to try 19
[00:05] <Gusj> @wxl Ahh thank you, you mean updating, right?
[00:05] <wxl> Gusj: not in lubuntu, as the desktop environments and applications are two different environments.
[00:14] <Gusj> @wxl I first installed ubuntustudio 19.05 and was advised to go to 18.04, so that is why when I installed Lubuntu I went for 18.04, the problems where in both, if I understand correctly the underlying architecture is quite similar right?
[00:14] <wxl> Gusj: the linux kernel, which is equal in both, is where the problem lies
[00:14] <Gusj> @wxl maybe I am not understand you correctly, sorry could you explain further?
[00:15] <Gusj> I filed a formal bug in ubuntu to try and see if it happens to someone else with this configuration..
[00:15] <wxl> Gusj: hardware problems are the most difficult to track down and get the least amount of activity. i wouldn't have a lot of hope. you might be able to help it out by actually trying out the newer system.
[00:16] <Gusj> @wxl  but in ubuntustudio 19.04 the problem was the same ones..
[00:16] <wxl> Gusj: this same problem or something else?
[00:17] <Gusj> @wxl same ones, laptop keyboard and trackpad do not work, they work perfectly in the bios, not in the OS
[00:17] <Gusj> @wxl  the kernel sees the keyboard in the xorg log, and then has it as a webcam for some reason..
[00:18] <wxl> Gusj: you might want to try the beta of the newer version (19.10)
[00:19] <wxl> Gusj: also you might want to try *Ubuntu* (not Studio, Lubuntu, or any other flavor) 16.04 to see if the problem existed on an older version
[00:24] <Gusj> @wxl and can I upgrade from the 18.04 I have, Yes I could do that but at the moment the laptop is being used by my wife writing her thesis, with external keyboard and mouse of course, So I cannot wipe it again, have done that a couple of times already with the installs and one I broke of Lubuntu
[00:25] <wxl> Gusj: then i'd advise coming back when she gets it done
[00:26] <Gusj> Here is the Xorg.0.log : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fQZYZyDyR4/
[00:27] <Gusj>  line 306 sees a keyboard, then line 403 has the webcam as a keyboard
[00:28] <Gusj> @wxl since the laptop is from 2013, aprox, that us why I thought Lubuntu would be better suited for it
[00:34] <Gusj> ] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD: TOSHIB" (type: KEYBOARD, id 13)
[00:34] <Gusj> [    29.685] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"
[00:34] <Gusj> [    29.685] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[00:34] <Gusj> [    29.687] (II) event11 - TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD: TOSHIB: is tagged by udev as: Keyboard
[00:34] <Gusj> [    29.687] (II) event11 - TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD: TOSHIB: device is a keyboard
[00:35] <Gusj> @wxl That is where it assigns it to the webcam for some reason, it sees it first 100 lines up, it also sees it as a video bus
[00:42] <Gusj> @wxl I am really loving Lubuntu, that is why I wanted to see if I can make it work, I think maybe regular Ubuntu would be sluggish in this laptop..
[01:04] <Gusj> @wxl thank you for your help, will give the install of normal Ubuntu 19.04 and then an older version 16.04 to see. I am really really hoping to stay with Lubuntu it is super nice and feels so stable, I thought this would be a driver not loaded problem or something like that..
[01:04] <Gusj> Is there an utility that could tell if it is hardware related? The keyboard and trackpad work Perfectly in the bios,
[07:12] <greinbold> matin
 @HMollerCl [I didn't know wpagui, but apparently it's only for wpa, network-manager-gnome is …], I installed network-manager-gnome and wifi on WPA2 worked perfectly. Muchas gracias! 😊
[21:16] <Settori> Hello
 after the lubox up... there is virtual keyboard pop up... this box unconnected to the network ... is there sth wrong with the systemctl start up?


[18:01] <nhandler> jussi, Pici, tsimpson: Any of you around?
[18:07] <nhandler> I'll wait until 10 after and then call it. We had a feeling this meeting might cause a problem due to the holidays.
[18:08] <tsimpson> I'm here
[18:08] <tsimpson> (just about)
[18:13] <nhandler> tsimpson: Well, it doesn't look like anyone else is. Want to call the meeting?
[18:15] <tsimpson> yeah, I don't think anyone will be here anyway
[18:17] <tsimpson> we only have Pici's item on the agenda, and seeing as he's not here it can probably wait until the next meeting (on the 8th)
[18:18] <nhandler> Alright, I'll send out an email


[02:02] <X_already_in_use> anyone here a pro at using Transmission BitTorrent client on their lubuntu?
[02:04] <Unit193> I haven't really ever used Transmission as I don't like it, but there are 90 nicks in #transmission if you would like to ask there
[02:07] <X_already_in_use> I tried no one is answering, and I only use torrent when I want a quickie download of the file, cuz using the browser i get about 150-300 kB/s with torrent i get 1.4 mB/s
[02:09] <X_already_in_use> Usually closing the client should turn off the upload speed right? just wondering if that's the end of it, I've had other bad experience with other BitTorrent program like Pandora Media Booster than runs in the background and upload stuff without my knowledge, lol, took me a few days to figure it out, my internet was going nuts.
[02:10] <Unit193> If you close it and there is no tray icon, it's dead
[02:10] <Unit193> Also, you can open htop and make real sure it's not running if you don't trust it
[02:12] <X_already_in_use> open htop ? what's that
[02:12] <Unit193> !info htop
[02:15] <X_already_in_use> ty ill use that
[02:15] <jmarsden> Unit193: Why do you need htop for that?  ps -C transmission
[02:17] <X_already_in_use> ps -C transmission is that a command line
[02:18] <X_already_in_use> i tried it on the terminal it says   PID TTY          TIME CMD
[02:18] <jmarsden> Yes.  Then you don't have any processes called transmission running.
[02:19] <X_already_in_use> well actually I do... :O
[02:20] <X_already_in_use> oh nvm its called transmission-gtk
[02:20] <jmarsden> I don't think so.  maybe transmission-something...   right.
[02:20] <X_already_in_use> thnx for that command, ill save that on my Linux-Command.odt
[02:20] <X_already_in_use> :>  brb trying out other distro
[02:21] <jmarsden> You can also do   ps -ax |grep transmission    # to find processes with transmission in their name...
[02:37] <Unit193> jmarsden: You don't, it can just be easier for SOME
[02:38] <jmarsden> OK... Lubuntu is abotu being lightweight, so... if you can do something with the default install, IMO you should do so, not add extra programs unless they are really needed.
[02:39] <Unit193> Ah, I forgot that wasn't installed by default
[06:19] <Alchemik> Hi all.
[06:20] <Unit193> Really?
[12:08] <Genscher> Hey - are the daily builds useable? (and better in compare to the beta?)
[12:08] <silverarrow> hardly better
[12:08] <silverarrow> in general
[12:09] <silverarrow> might get an update or fix you look for though
[12:09] <head_victim> Basically it's the same as a beta that has been updated.
[12:09] <silverarrow> but I would consult the makers of them
[12:10] <silverarrow> for example, VLC 2 is stable enough to trust it seems
[12:14] <Genscher> ah nice to know. I'm going for a vacation with my netbook and wonder if Lubuntu can be trusted for that
[12:14] <head_victim> I've used Lubuntu for 2 releases now, it's always been good to me
[12:15] <Genscher> Thanks for your help :) Will download the daily and try it
[12:16] <head_victim> If you want stability I don't think a beta release is your best bet though unless you're used to dealing with developmental releases
[12:16] <silverarrow> yes, lubuntu have been trustworthy here too
[12:16] <Genscher> Well, as long as I don't get kernel panics.... ;)
[12:16] <silverarrow> though I would bring the live cd
[12:17] <silverarrow> I have had updates mess up grub
[12:17] <Genscher> only using the laptop for simple web surfing + gps routing
[12:18] <silverarrow> it works for any application really
[12:18] <Genscher> and i guess it beats Suse Linux anyway (came with Netbook preinstalled, left 10MB of 1,5GB free so I couldn't even play a normal video) :D
[12:19] <silverarrow> SUSE has grown big?
[12:20] <head_victim> Genscher: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall would also be a good look for a small hdd
[12:21] <silverarrow> how did you make lubuntu install Genscher ?
[12:21] <Genscher> Using http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ on USB drive. 1.5GB RAM i meant, not HDD :)
[12:22] <silverarrow> I see
[12:23] <silverarrow> for usb booting puppy linux has some advantages
[12:24] <silverarrow> I'm not shore about 256MB RAM but it has a savefile function that works well
[12:36] <Trusardi> hey how to set keyboard shortcuts in lubuntu?
[12:36] <Trusardi> is it ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml file?
[12:37] <Trusardi> back
[12:38] <head_victim> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ#I_want_to_bind_a_key_to_lock_my_screen.2C_how_do_I_do_it.
[12:39] <head_victim> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ#I_want_to_bind_a_key_to_lock_my_screen.2C_how_do_I_do_it.3F that's better sorry for the long link
[12:39] <head_victim> It shows how to bind a key to the lock screen but you can use it as an example to bind keys to other commands.
[12:47] <Genscher> The graphicall installer doesn't like my netbook ;) "Unknown video mode 314" ;)
[12:49] <Genscher> well, old debian users need only test install mode right? ;)
[12:49] <head_victim> The text installer is a part of the alternate cd
[15:41] <usr13> Anyone know how to map F12 to lxterminal
[15:41] <usr13> ?
[15:43] <Genscher> google? ;)
[15:43] <Genscher> nah, i just have a question: Does anybody know how to circumvent the black screen bug?
[15:44] <Genscher> whenever the screensaver kicks in and i wan tto wake up the pc again, it stays almost black
[15:44] <Genscher> (i can see a glimpse of some windows, very dark)
[15:45] <frankbooth> usr13 you can add your own keybinds in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml
[15:47] <frankbooth> usr13 like this:  <keybind key="F12"><action name="Execute"><command>lxterminal</command></action></keybind>
[15:48] <Genscher> is there a way to disable the screensaver?
[15:49] <Genscher> (finally got lubuntu installed, it's almost impossible on 576 screen height)
[15:51] <Genscher> andif lubuntu is supposed to be light, i wonder why there are 15 games installed ;)
[15:55] <frankbooth> Genscher the games are like 200kb big in total, to disable screensaver: Lubuntu-menu -> Preferences -> Screensaver
[15:56] <Genscher> frankbooth, thank you for your answer. Helped me alot :)
[16:14] <Genscher> btw: I love that lubuntu uses the "old style" menu! No Unity, Gnome 3 and stuff
[16:37] <usr13> Xsession:  unsupported number of arguments (2): falling back to default session
[16:38] <usr13> I get desktop background but no lxpanel
[16:39] <usr13> Actually, the error message is displayed in a window in the middle of the screen with  (okay) at bottom.  You click on (okay) and then you get desktop background but no lxpanel
[16:52] <Genscher> wlan didn't work since 3 packages were missing (broadcom) but works fine now :)
[16:58] <svkoskin> hello. is the installer included with lubuntu cd images similar to one in official ubuntu?
[16:59] <svkoskin> I need to shrink a NTFS partition and I'd especially like to know if the installer can do that
[17:39] <usr13> svkoskin: Yes
[17:39] <svkoskin> okay great
[17:46] <svkoskin> meh
[17:47] <svkoskin> it won't boot
[17:56] <Unit193> Oh do you know the muffin man, the muffin man, the muffin man....
[18:52] <jmarsden> svkoskin: The installer on the Lubuntu LiveCD is ubiquity, and is *exactly* the same installer used on Ubuntu LiveCDs.  By the way, Lubuntu is "official Ubuntu" now, see the release announcement for the latest Oneiric Beta :)
[18:53] <svkoskin> I found that out a while ago :)
[18:54] <jmarsden> Ok, good.
[18:54] <svkoskin> the installer is finally as good as debian-installer used to be
[18:55] <jmarsden> Well, it has a tendency to demand more disk space than it really should for Lubuntu installs at the moment, but I'm working on fixing that...
[18:55] <svkoskin> SYSLINUX didn't work on my hardware, but I managed to make a bootable USB stick with unetbootin
[18:55] <svkoskin> and it worked perfectly
[18:56] <svkoskin> LXDE seems quite a nice software to my use even though I have got less than a year old laptop
[18:56] <jmarsden> OK... the other way around (unetbootin fails, but syslinux is fine) is more common -- but what matters it that you got it to work :)
[18:57] <jmarsden> svkoskin: Yes, there are people who like a lightweight desktop even on modern hardware.  It's good that we can give people that option with Lubuntu.
[18:58] <svkoskin> I liked KDE 3 but I don't find ánything I fancy on current Unity, KDE or Gnome
[18:58] <svkoskin> so it's great you bundle such a distro
[19:00] <jmarsden> Thanks!  gilir is the main developer of Lubuntu, I just help out here and there when I can.  And pcman is the driving force behind LXDE itself.
[19:00] <svkoskin> okay
[20:56] <shelly> I've got a fresh lubuntu install, and wonder if it's possible I might have messed something up.  When I move a window, it kind of skips across the screen rather than dragging smoothly.  This didn't happen in XP, so there's got to be a way in lub.  Older box with a celeron processor.
[22:34] <silverarrow1> hi
[22:34] <silverarrow1> I have discovered something new
[22:34] <silverarrow1> lubuntu system monitor easts up cpu and ram like massive
[22:35] <silverarrow1> htop is much lighter, runs in terminal
[22:35] <silverarrow1> shows more accurate loads
[22:37] <silverarrow1> especially for minimal systems
[23:13] <silverarrow1> hi
[23:13] <silverarrow1> any one who have experienced gnome freezing entire computer?
[23:15] <silverarrow1> anyone here this late?
[23:15] <phillw> present... does not use gnome
[23:15] <silverarrow1> gnome is usually rather good here
[23:16] <silverarrow1> sorry gnome mplayer
[23:16] <silverarrow1> that would be confusing
[23:16] <silverarrow1> I have found Tor packages in synaptic too
[23:16] <silverarrow1> which I am wondering about
[23:17] <phillw> silverarrow1: I'm actually busy trying to find out where some of our wiki pages vanished to in response to a request from the main forum area..... To say I am not pleased, would be an understatement!
[23:17] <silverarrow1> so there's no common reason why session freezes?
[23:18] <silverarrow1> linux or ubuntu?
[23:18] <silverarrow1> I am really happy with lubuntu, but issues do pop up
[23:19] <phillw> silverarrow1: the boys who play with programs would be better to help you. If none are about on IRC, you could be really cheeky and use ML. :P
[23:19] <silverarrow1> I have puppy too, but it's not full install,
[23:19] <silverarrow1> ML?
[23:19] <phillw> Mailing List :P
[23:19] <silverarrow1> cool
[23:19] <silverarrow1> if they allow amateurs
[23:20] <phillw> silverarrow1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs
[23:21] <phillw> silverarrow1: They allow me :D
[23:21] <silverarrow1> promising
[23:22] <silverarrow1> and you are not elevated above mere mortal user ?
[23:28] <phillw> silverarrow1: The decision was taken that none of us would wear 'badges'.
[23:28] <silverarrow1> lol
[23:28] <phillw> if you pop onto #lubuntu-offtopic I can better exaplain.
[23:58] <meway> how do I get java to work?
[23:58] <meway> or actually what command to install java?


[01:15] <DoctorPepper> hi guys !!!
[01:33] <BarkingFish> morning DoctorPepper
[01:33] <DoctorPepper> BarkingFish: morning
[12:51] <noaXess> hey all
[12:52] <noaXess> what are the codes if yi eg. want search for package libmotif3 with dpkg -l | grep libmotif3? i get: rc  libmotif3... what does rc mean?
[13:55] <roland> I have an instancec of dolphin, which does not want to close, kill -9 or kill -13 doesnt work... killall "dolphin" doesn't work, any ideas, how to forcekill it?
[13:56] <BluesKaj> roland, is the "loading file" indicator showing , sometimes it gets stuck in that mode after removing or adding files/folders to a dir
[13:57] <roland> BluesKaj: I don't see any
[14:00] <TheMysticJellyMa> Hi
[14:01] <BluesKaj> roland, try the system monitor process table , you'll have several options there to stop or kill it
[14:02] <roland> tried every option in there, unkillable
[14:02] <roland> BluesKaj: CPU % says: disk sleep
[14:03] <BluesKaj> then reboot
[14:05] <Duppy21> need some help with my network
[14:05] <Lynoure> Duppy21: We need more info
[14:06] <Duppy21> Got my network set up but would like to get into get into the management side to see what other computers are on it
[14:08] <SunTsu> Duppy21: what would that "management side" be, you're talking about?
[14:09] <roland> BluesKaj: really? reboot is the only option?
[14:09] <Duppy21> management connections
[14:13] <BluesKaj> roland, that's what I do ..I have no objections to a reboot if necessary
[14:14] <SunTsu> roland: if some process is waiting on IO and that IO won't come: Yes, reboot is an option besides leaving that process in it's state
[14:14] <roland> SunTsu: how is that kind of process unkillable?
[14:15] <roland> is there any commandline magic, to try to killit?
[14:15] <SunTsu> roland: it's waiting on IO, which is an uninterruptable state
[14:15] <SunTsu> roland: yeah, that magic is called "reboot"
[14:15] <SunTsu> roland: but maybe you want to ask again and somebody else can tell you - until you believe us
[14:16] <BluesKaj> roland, are you on some kind of uptime contest for bragging rights :)
[14:17] <roland> SunTsu: I didn't say I don't believe you
[14:17] <roland> and I don't have any kind of uptime contest
[14:17] <BluesKaj> then reboot
[14:17] <SunTsu> roland: well, you did. Two people told you that and you asked if there was some other way, which implicit means that you don't believe us
[14:17] <roland> just, reboot is the final option I use, until nothing else helps
[14:18] <roland> SunTsu: relax, until you wrote "it's waiting on IO, which is an uninterruptable state" I didn't understand what the problem was exactly
[14:19] <SunTsu> roland: actually I'm totally relaxed
[14:20] <roland> SunTsu: actually, I didnt know that waiting on IO is uninterruptible
[14:21] <SunTsu> roland: then now you know ;) That only leaves the two options  I mentioned earlier
[14:43] <thinking> :-D
[14:44] <thinking> is there anybody/
[14:45] <SunTsu> nope
[14:45] <BluesKaj> thinking, yes, just ask your question
[14:45] <BluesKaj> roland, you didn't reboot , are you afraid to ?
[14:45] <thinking> i am new here
[14:46] <SunTsu> thinking: just ask your question, and be as precise as you can be. What is your problem, what did you try, what happened, what do you expect to happen, etc
[14:48] <thinking> This is my first time use irc
[14:51] <thinking> Which is the most famous chanel in this server?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> thinking, that's not asupport question . Do you have a kubuntu related question ?
[15:30] <_calum> guys, I'm installing updates from a default clean Kubuntu install. It says "running dpkg" but it won't go past 56%. Stayed that way for 8 minutes. What to do?
[15:31] <Peace-> _calum: open a konsole
[15:31] <_calum> ok
[15:31] <Peace-> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:31] <_calum> uhh, it won't open
[15:31] <Peace-> mm
[15:32] <Peace-> :)
[15:32] <_calum> no response
[15:32] <_calum> is it broken?
[15:32] <Peace-> well i could fix ...
[15:32] <Peace-> but .... you need  to open a new tty
[15:32] <Peace-> i will explain
[15:32] <_calum> I just have an update screen with running dpkg at 56% now
[15:32] <Peace-> but you have to read and wait because it's not simple
[15:33] <Peace-> _calum: first of all close that windows , it's blocked
[15:33] <_calum> a virtual console?
[15:33] <Peace-> no
[15:33] <_calum> I cannot close the window
[15:34] <Peace-> you can do something ?
[15:34] <_calum> I can move the mouse but not start programs or close the window
[15:34] <Peace-> ALT F2
[15:34] <Peace-> appears something ?
[15:34] <_calum> that got some bar at the top
[15:35] <Peace-> now on that bar type konsole
[15:35] <Peace-> e press enter
[15:35] <_calum> ahh I have a terminal
[15:35] <Peace-> now ,  you must be carefull
[15:37] <_calum> right
[15:38] <Peace-> press CTRL ALT ESC  , and click on the window  that is blocked at 56% it will KILL the application
[15:38] <Peace-> then go on konsole and type
[15:38] <Peace-> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:38] <_calum> ahh little skull icon
[15:39] <_calum> click the window now right?
[15:39] <_calum> its gone
[15:40] <Peace-> then go on konsole and type
[15:40] <Peace-> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:40] <_calum> ok
[15:41] <Peace-> it will say something of bad i guess :)
[15:41] <_calum> dpkg status database is locked by another process
[15:41] <Peace-> sudo rm  /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[15:41] <Peace-> then
[15:41] <Peace-> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:41] <_calum> ok
[15:42] <_calum> ok somethings happening
[15:42] <Peace-> :)
[15:43] <_calum> its setting up some stuff
[15:43] <Peace-> _calum: actually is upgrading your system where it was interrupted
[15:43] <_calum> ahh right
[15:44] <_calum> its done
[15:45] <Peace-> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:45] <_calum> k
[15:45] <Peace-> just to be sure
[15:45] <Peace-> it checks if there is something you have to upgrade
[15:46] <_calum> it says it upgraded 1 item
[15:46] <Peace-> press y
[15:47] <_calum> it doesn't give me an option its finished and now says calum@calum-laptop:~$
[15:47] <Peace-> ok
[15:47] <Peace-> perfect
[15:47] <Peace-> your system is upgraded
[15:47] <_calum> any reason why the updating froze in the first place?
[15:48] <Peace-> i guess it's a bug
[15:48] <Peace-> i don't use software to upgrade my system
[15:48] <_calum> hmm, should I report?
[15:48] <Peace-> i use only konsole
[15:48] <Peace-> _calum: you should yes
[15:49] <_calum> does it matter that the running process is now closed? I thought I needed it open to report
[15:50] <Peace-> ?
[15:50] <_calum> can I report the bug without the buggy process being open?
[15:50] <Peace-> _calum: i thnk ....
[15:50] <Peace-> open konsole
[15:50] <Peace-> ubuntu-bug
[15:52] <_calum> uhh I restarted and it seems to have crashed my system. Blanik screen two windows, Jockey closed unexpectedly and kde-policykit.
[15:53] <Peace-> _calum:  rebooting ?
[15:53] <_calum> yeah I went to reboot my system but these two windows appeared
[15:53] <Peace-> i guess it's normal
[15:54] <Peace-> you had a system not quite stable
[15:54] <_calum> should I reinstall?
[15:54] <Peace-> no
[15:54] <Peace-> i have to understand well
[15:54] <Peace-> now rebooting you have some problems?
[15:54] <Peace-> restart your computer
[15:54] <_calum> I'll power it off and see
[15:55] <_calum> it rebooted without error.
[15:56] <Peace-> so ok :)
[15:56] <fatum> oh, here we go again. Plasma desktop shell closed unexpectedly. Segfault ftw...
[15:56] <_calum> thankyou for your help
[15:56] <Peace-> fatum: kde version '
[15:56] <Peace-> ?
[15:56] <fatum> kubuntu 11.10
[15:57] <fatum> oh, sorry
[15:58] <fatum> Qt: 4.7.4, KDE development platform: 4.7.3
[15:59] <Peace-> fatum: ok what you did before?
[15:59] <Peace-> fatum:  you loaded desktop console?
[16:00] <_calum> uhh I cannot connect to my wifi.
[16:00] <_calum> what now..
[16:00] <fatum> I get that usually when I try to turn off my ntb. Sometimes even when browsing internet, I haven't noticed anything unusual
[16:01] <Peace-> _calum: iwconfig
[16:01] <Peace-> fatum: upgrade kde
[16:01] <_calum> the kde wallet asks for permission then I clicked allow always now I have no wifi
[16:01] <Peace-> fatum: we are  at 4..7.4
[16:01] <Peace-> _calum: iwconfig
[16:01] <Peace-> _calum: iwconfig
[16:02] <Peace-> !paste
[16:03] <fatum> sorry, how to?
[16:03] <_calum> I'm on a different pc for irc I cannot paste directly from it
[16:04] <yon_> does some one have an update bug fix for the crach of kde
[16:04] <Peace-> fatum: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:04] <_calum> the output for my wifi interface is no wireless extensions. It was working until kde wallet came up asking for permission
[16:05] <yon_> there is too much stuff in kde than i ever wanted
[16:05] <Peace-> _calum: open a konsole
[16:05] <Peace-> _calum:  type iwconfig
[16:05] <Peace-> _calum:  paste the oputout on pastebin service
[16:05] <Peace-> !paste
[16:05] <_calum> alright
[16:07] <yon_> why does kde crash in login when you turn on wicd as the wlan interface.
[16:07] <Peace-> :S
[16:07] <Peace-> wicd?
[16:07] <yon_> yes
[16:07] <Peace-> where what and why
[16:08] <Peace-> you don't use the standard stuf?
[16:08] <yon_> in the network management backend
[16:08] <_calum> I think I'll reinstall. My system seems broken. I cannot access my usb drive to paste the file onto this pc
[16:08] <Peace-> _calum: mm
[16:08] <Peace-> ok
[16:09] <_calum> one thing can I do security updates from a terminal?
[16:09] <yon_> i moved wicd at the top, then i try to login nothing happens
[16:09] <Peace-> _calum: i guess yes
[16:09] <_calum> ok thanks for your assistance
[16:09] <Peace-> _calum: google sudo apt-get secure update
[16:10] <yon_> the build-essential package should have been pre-installed
[16:10] <Peace-> yon_: no space on 600mb of cd
[16:10] <yon_> those like me, with 10 or 20 kbs speed can't do anything
[16:11] <fatum> yeah, apt-get update, that's another issue I wanted to talk about. I get a few 404 errors in oneiric/main/ ..Sources, Packages... need to paste all of it?
[16:12] <yon_> can you be more specific
[16:13] <Peace-> fatum: seems some server are not on line on your area
[16:13] <Peace-> servers
[16:13] <Peace-> fatum: paste
[16:14] <fatum> it's not just temporary issue, it has happened every time I tried in last.. i don't know, month or two?
[16:14] <fatum> http://paste.ubuntu.com/776480/
[16:14] <_calum> peace: I really appreciate you helping me with that stuff, so thanks :)
[16:15] <yon_> any help with mp3 and video codec for kubuntu 11.10
[16:15] <yon_> i have an idea guys do you want to hear it
[16:16] <Peace-> !medibuntu | yon_
[16:16] <Peace-> yon_: then when you have added medibuntu repository
[16:16] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:16] <Peace-> should be fine
[16:17] <yon_> i have been able to download ffmpeg which is a great app, but it's command based, i wanted to make it gui
[16:17] <Peace-> there a toons of gui for ffmpeg
[16:18] <Peace-> there are
[16:18] <Peace-> fatum: the error is ppa stuff
[16:18] <yon_> can you mention any of them
[16:18] <_calum> ffmpeg saved my ass twice :)
[16:18] <_calum> why can't we get something like that for windows which doesn't contain adware/spyware?
[16:18] <Peace-> fatum: first of all i will make some cleaning of your fuckin bad source list  omg hahahaha
[16:19] <Peace-> fatum: then i wil upgrade to 4.7.4
[16:19] <Tm_T> Peace-: language...
[16:19] <Peace-> Tm_T: xD
[16:19] <fatum> all right, I could use some cleaning :D
[16:20] <_calum> woo! My wifi is picked up again!
[16:20] <Peace-> _calum: :)
[16:20] <yon_> any gui for ffmpeg which works in kubuntu 11.10
[16:20] <Peace-> winff or
[16:20] <yon_> and the repository for medibuntu
[16:21] <Peace-> handbrake
[16:21] <_calum> if the updates work successfully in this new install I will be a happy custome
[16:21] <_calum> r*
[16:21] <Peace-> _calum: use the terminal
[16:21] <Peace-> to upgrade
[16:22] <_calum> sure will, this time
[16:22] <Peace-> *update
[16:22] <_calum> just gotta run the installer app
[16:22] <Peace-> if you learn terminal , i know is a pain , you will never reinstall for stuff like
[16:22] <_calum> Call me mad but I like the terminal.
[16:23] <yon_> how can the google snow .js be embed in facebook profile page
[16:23] <Peace-> yon_: this is not a kubuntu question
[16:23] <yon_> well it can be helpful, it's christmas
[16:26] <yon_> if the look of kde were in gnome, and the power of gnome where in kde, it would have been a great experience
[16:26] <_calum> gnomede?
[16:26] <Peace-> yon_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiOgsG1GCBo
[16:26] <_calum> :)
[16:27] <fatum> GDE :D
[16:27] <Peace-> actually kde can be like gnome
[16:27] <yon_> gnomede, sounds powerful
[16:27] <Peace-> and unity
[16:27] <DarthFrog> yon_:  Power of GNOME?   What do you mean by that?
[16:27] <Peace-> yon_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_qR-7FQHxc&feature=related
[16:27] <Peace-> kde can be like gnome unity and mac
[16:28] <Peace-> but i prefer like kde
[16:28] <yon_> the performance and un-crashable
[16:28] <_calum> I love how KDE can look better than mac and is free, Mac users, stick that in your pipe and smoke it
[16:29] <yon_> kde doesn't even have flash pre installed
[16:29] <DarthFrog> yon_: That's not KDE or GNOME related, that's the distro itself.
[16:30] <Peace-> !chat | yon_
[16:30] <Peace-> omg
[16:30] <Peace-> !offtopic | yon_
[16:30] <yon_> i am trying to remind the drawbacks of kde
[16:30] <Pici> yon_: this is not the place to do that.
[16:31] <pangolin> no OS comes with flash pre-installed.
[16:31] <_calum> Linux mint does
[16:31] <Peace-> yon_: you have a problem well , if not go in the offtopic channel
[16:31] <yon_> ubuntu 10,4 do
[16:31] <ArchangelSe7en> Linux Mint
[16:31] <ArchangelSe7en> yea
[16:31] <Peace-> -.-
[16:31] <pangolin> no OS worth installing comes with flash pre-installed.
[16:31] <Peace-> please guys go in the offtopic channel
[16:31] <Peace-> this is not a chat
[16:31] <yon_> kde have along way to go
[16:32] <ArchangelSe7en> define "worth installing"
[16:32] <pangolin> has anybody else gotten a 200+ package upgrade that emptied the applications menu?
[16:32] <Peace-> pangolin: the app menu?
[16:32] <pangolin> kubuntu 11.10
[16:32] <yon_> what app do i use to run .exe programs
[16:32] <_calum> right, I'm off, thanks for everything.
[16:33] <Peace-> pangolin: app-menu check if you have installed tha
[16:33] <pangolin> Unable to locate package app-menu
[16:34] <yon_> any one who want to make kubuntu better
[16:35] <yon_> any one who want to make kubuntu better
[16:35] <Peace-> pangolin: aptitude search app | grep menu
[16:35] <yon_> even aptitude is better than moun
[16:35] <Peace-> yon_: and you don't understand that this is not a chat
[16:35] <pangolin> I think I need to log out
[16:36] <yon_> so can you explain is for me. breifly
[16:36] <yon_> so can you explain it for me. breifly
[16:36] <Peace-> question => stay and ask a question ;
[16:36] <Peace-> stop
[16:36] <Peace-> personal point of view  can be made on the offtopic chanel
[16:37] <yon_> well why does kde crash at log in when wicd is selected as network manager backend
[16:41] <pangolin> all better now
[16:41] <yon_> i have a project in mind
[16:43] <yon_> any one who want to volunter
[16:44] <sekisushai> hello, i would like to list the packages available on a ppa ...
[16:44] <sekisushai> how can i do .
[16:44] <sekisushai> ?
[16:44] <yon_> be clear sekushss
[16:45] <BluesKaj> yon_, pls don't ask for volunteers before explaining your project first
[16:45] <sekisushai> lol sorry... I have a ppa source added to my package manager
[16:45] <sekisushai> and i would like to know what packages are available on it
[16:45] <yon__> so then
[16:46] <BluesKaj> sekisushai, find the url where the ppa is posted , there should be a list
[16:46] <yon__> check it in the origin tab in moun
[16:47] <sekisushai> yep i have this, but i would like to check it on my system because i can't see the packages on this ppa from my package manager (muon)..
[16:47] <yon__> check it in the by origin tab in moun
[16:47] <BluesKaj> sekisushai, go to the original site where you got the ppa
[16:47] <fatum> Peace-: soooo... what about that bad source list and 4.7.4. upgrade?
[16:48] <Peace-> fatum: remove the ppa stuff that doesn't work
[16:48] <fatum> how?
[16:48] <Peace-> then do the upgrade using the official ppa of kubunut
[16:48] <Peace-> fatum: have you muon ?
[16:49] <sekisushai> if you want in muon on "by origini" tab i don't see the ppa i just added !..
[16:49] <Peace-> on that software you can edit repository disabling
[16:49] <Peace-> ppa
[16:49] <fatum> it seems I do, but have never used it
[16:49] <Peace-> !sourcelist
[16:50] <Peace-> !repository
[16:58] <fatum> seems to be working well and I think I have got KDE 4.7.4... I read, that the way to check it is to check any kde application? or how?
[17:00] <Peace-> fatum: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/20/plasma-desktopqp1628.jpg
[17:02] <fatum> Peace-: great, got 4.7.4 ;) thank you very much
[17:14] <vikash> hi evryoone
[17:14] <ArchangelSe7en> hullo
[17:14] <vikash> i want to use full features of kde 4.7.4
[17:15] <vikash> someone help me
[17:16] <Tm_T> vikash: yes?
[17:17] <vikash> i want to modify the quick launcher of kubuntu
[17:23] <toumbo> Hi peeple!!My muon stuck on "post-installation trigger libc-bin" during update!!What should I do?
[17:28] <vikash_> i want to modify kick off launcher of kubuntu to show all options on the desktop
[17:28] <vikash_> someone help me
[17:28] <vikash_> its a new feature in kde 4.7.4
[17:30] <vikash_> <Tm T>
[17:30] <kbroulik> vikash_: show all options on the desktop?
[17:31] <vikash_> yes the kick off launcher modification
[17:31] <vikash_> read it somewhere
[17:31] <BluesKaj> vikas what do you mean by show all options ?
[17:31] <BluesKaj> vikash_, ^
[17:32] <vikash_> like wen we open kick off launcer we see options: applications,computer,etc
[17:35] <BluesKaj> vikash_, haven't tried 4.7.4 yet so I'm not sure what that means ...like an expanded view of the kicker page?
[17:35] <Peace-> vikash_: ?
[17:36] <vikash_> ,Blues Kaj>
[17:36] <Peace-> maybe you mean search and lauch?
[17:36] <vikash_> yesss
[17:36] <vikash_> no peace not search and launch
[17:36] <vikash_> its kinda new feature
[17:36] <vikash_> i also dont knw exactly saw it in a website
[17:37] <WellTolerated> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave:klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'file'.
[17:37] <WellTolerated> ?
[17:37] <WellTolerated> I got this after an update today
[17:37] <WellTolerated> trying to start kopete
[17:38] <Peace-> vikash_: the take off?
[17:38] <vikash_> yess i guess
[17:38] <vikash_> Peace
[17:38] <Peace-> vikash_: this one ? http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/snapshot1.png
[17:39] <vikash_> yess LORD
[17:39] <vikash_> yess Peace
[17:39] <vikash_> diss one
[17:40] <Peace-> vikash_:  https://code.google.com/p/takeoff-launcher/wiki/Downloads?tm=2
[17:42] <Peace-> vikash_: btw the package in the repository seems old
[17:42] <Peace-> vikash_: i have compiled xD
[17:42] <Peace-> vikash_: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/?s=takeoff
[17:43] <Peace-> vikash_: no no is updated
[17:43] <Peace-> vikash_: you can use that ppa
[17:43] <vikash_> oooh thank you so much LORD Peace
[17:43] <vikash_> thanx al ot(-:
[17:45] <Nickamg> Done my updates and now everything appears stable now, I'm liking this much better then Gnome3 that's for sure
[17:45] <BluesKaj> Nickamg, welcome to kubuntu :)
[17:45] <vikash_> @Nickamg ..ye dats tru..
[17:46] <Nickamg> Yeh was a bit flaky to start with
[17:46] <vikash_> indeed
[17:46] <Nickamg> Appears better now
[17:46] <BluesKaj> vikash_, @ isn't necessary on IRC
[17:47] <vikash_> @BluesKaj  okie okie dood
[17:48] <Nickamg> lol
[17:48] <vikash_> haha
[17:49] <vikash_> anybody tell me the best mac like looking linux distro>>>>>
[17:49] <Nickamg> Ah Chrome is installed yay
[17:49] <Nickamg> Google if your friend
[17:49] <Peace-> vikash_: kde
[17:50] <Nickamg> :)
[17:50] <Nickamg> You could install Docky
[17:50] <Peace-> vikash_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_qR-7FQHxc
[17:50] <Nickamg> if you want an Icon dock
[17:50] <Nickamg> unless KDE has it?
[17:50] <SunTsu> vikash_: all linux distros could look like macos, it's a question of the window manager or desktop environment used
[17:50] <vikash_> ohoh okie
[17:53] <Nickamg> You know on almost all distro of linux I can't get Youtube to full screen correctly
[17:54] <Peace-> :s
[17:54] <vikash_> whyyyyy
[17:54] <vikash_> i nevr encountrd Dt prob
[17:54] <Nickamg> Well its probably more to do with how shit flash is
[17:54] <vikash_> ooh
[17:55] <vikash_> dats tru
[17:55] <vikash_> i had prob in win8
[17:55] <Nickamg> I can not wait until HTML 5 properly takes off
[17:55] <vikash_> true
[17:57] <vikash_> @Peace i hav downloaded da panel collections bt how to install dem?????????????????????
[17:58] <Peace-> vikash_: is written
[17:58] <Peace-> vikash_: wget http://plasma-panels-script.googlecode.com/files/Plasma_Panels_Collection_1.3.zip && mkdir plasmatemp && unzip Plasma_Panels_Collection_1.3.zip -d "$PWD"/plasmatemp ; cd "$PWD"/plasmatemp; for file in *.zip; do $(plasmapkg -t layout-template -i "$file"); done
[17:58] <SunTsu> vikash_: question marks are lonesome wolfs
[17:58] <Peace-> vikash_: on the terminal
[17:59] <Peace-> vikash_: you need to install some stuff ....
[17:59] <Peace-> vikash_: sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-*
[17:59] <Peace-> and icontask
[18:00] <vikash_> oh okay thx
[18:01] <Nickamg> This makes it look like Gnome 3
[18:02] <vikash_> Wiz Khaliiifa
[18:02] <Nickamg> Youck
[18:02] <Nickamg> yuck*
[18:02] <vikash_> why
[18:02] <Nickamg> Have you used Ubuntu?
[18:02] <vikash_> yeap
[18:02] <Nickamg> It's pretty horrible now
[18:02] <vikash_> yes
[18:03] <vikash_> gnome 3
[18:03] <vikash_> disgustin
[18:05] <Peace-> Nickamg: so ubuntu is orrible ? xD look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiOgsG1GCBo
[18:08] <Nickamg> This is morally wrong
[18:09] <Peace-> hahahaa
[18:09] <vikash_> haha
[18:09] <Nickamg> How do I get this IRC client to stop giving me notifications in this window?
[18:09] <Peace-> Nickamg: ? quassel?
[18:10] <Nickamg> ah I found it
[18:10] <Nickamg> Ah, thats better
[18:11] <BluesKaj> Peace-, will you pls stop promoting Unity in Kubuntu, we need all the KDE members we can get :)
[18:11] <Peace-> BluesKaj: ahahhaa
[18:11] <Nickamg> haha
[18:12] <vikash_> Peace .. wat file name to write in dis command 'do $(plasmapkg -t layout-template -i "$file")'
[18:12] <psyentologist> can someone help me out with this kubuntu 11.1 ?
[18:12] <Nickamg> I bet you text like this on your cell eh!
[18:12] <Peace-> vikash_: you need only to copy and paste the code on konsole
[18:12] <Peace-> vikash_: you don't need to edit
[18:13] <vikash_> ooh
[18:13] <Nickamg> Sup Psy ?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> Nickamg, pls refrain from 'sup, lol etc 'this isn't IM-ing
[18:14] <Nickamg> lol
[18:14] <BluesKaj> use real words
[18:14] <psyentologist> Nickamg, I get the o/s installed just fine, then i go to muon package manager and do a "full upgrade" and (for the second time i've attempted this now) it halts @ 57 percent in the "committing changes" part (somewhere when its "running djpt" or something like that")
[18:14] <vikash_> @Peace.. its showing error :  bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[18:14] <Nickamg> I was just trying to fit in with vikash
[18:15] <Peace-> vikash_: omg
[18:15] <vikash_> haha nickamg
[18:15] <Peace-> vikash_: you have copied bad
[18:15] <Peace-> copy and paste all the code
[18:15] <Peace-> :S
[18:15] <Nickamg> I had some troubles with the packge manager.
[18:15] <Peace-> vikash_: just copy the code from here http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Plasma+Panels+Collection+?content=147589
[18:16] <Peace-> vikash_: read!
[18:16] <Nickamg> Have you tried a apt-get update on the Konsole?
[18:16] <vikash_> i copied dis much: do $(plasmapkg -t layout-template -i "$file")
[18:16] <Peace-> no
[18:16] <Peace-> no
[18:16] <Peace-> no
[18:16] <Peace-> alll the cde
[18:16] <Peace-> code
[18:17] <BarkingFish> Peace-: while it might be fun, the enter key isn't punctuation :)
[18:17] <psyentologist> Nickamg, no i have not. I don't know how to, would you explain it to me ?
[18:17] <Peace-> vikash_: http://paste.kde.org/175946
[18:18] <Nickamg> Open up Konsole from the KDE Launch menu, bottom left blue icon
[18:19] <psyentologist> Nickamg, I've got it open now.
[18:19] <Nickamg> type Sudo apt-get update
[18:19] <Nickamg> you'll need to enter your password
[18:19] <vikash> @Peace do i hav to paste da whole code directly
[18:19] <vikash> ?
[18:19] <Peace-> vikash: LOL yes!
[18:19] <Nickamg> once that is done, type apt-get upgrade
[18:20] <Nickamg> If its the first time you've done this, I suggest making a cup of tea
[18:21] <psyentologist> i allready have some earl gray sitting on my desk beside me! (seriously!) okay, um, on the console is says "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[18:22] <Nickamg> HA I have some earl grey as well!
[18:22] <vikash_> @Peace  is it installed  its showing :are/apps/plasma/layout-templates//org.kde.plasma-desktop.attemptPanel" already exists
[18:22] <vikash_> Installation: command not found
[18:22] <vikash_> Successfully: command not found
[18:22] <vikash_> Successfully: command not found
[18:22] <vikash_> Successfully: command not found
[18:22] <vikash_> Successfully: command not found
[18:22] <vikash_> Successfully: command not found
[18:22] <vikash_> Successfully: command not found
[18:22] <BarkingFish> vikash_: Whoa!
[18:22] <vikash_> wat barkingfishh
[18:22] <BarkingFish> dude, try paste.ubuntu.com -
[18:23] <Peace-> xD
[18:23] <Peace-> vikash_: should be installed
[18:23] <vikash_> dood go dead fish
[18:23] <DarthFrog> !paste | vikash_
[18:23] <vikash_> ooh okay peacce
[18:23] <vikash_> ooh
[18:23] <vikash_> okay ubottu
[18:23] <Tech-1> lol
[18:23] <Peace-> vikash_: copy and paste   sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-*
[18:24] <psyentologist> it seems to be busy doing some setup of some sorts
[18:24] <Nickamg> Do you still have the software manager?
[18:24] <Nickamg> open^
[18:24] <psyentologist> no!
[18:24] <psyentologist> :)
[18:24] <vikash_> peace  .. i installed it already bt unable to install icontask
[18:25] <BluesKaj> psyentologist, also try, sudo apt-get -f install then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ...muon is somewhat buggy atm , recommend apt-get in the konsole for updates/upgrade
[18:25] <Peace-> vikash_: 32 bit or 64?
[18:25] <Peace-> vikash_: your computer is 64bit or 32?
[18:25] <Nickamg> Yeah what Blue said.
[18:25] <Nickamg> :)
[18:25] <Peace-> Nickamg: are you neospwan?
[18:25] <vikash_> 64 peace.. 64 bit
[18:25] <Nickamg> haha yes
[18:25] <Nickamg> saw my comment?
[18:26] <psyentologist> BluesKaj, got it, thanks
[18:26] <Peace-> vikash_: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnumdk/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-icon-tasks
[18:26] <Peace-> copy and paste this
[18:26] <Peace-> Nickamg: ya
[18:27] <Nickamg> Flooder!
[18:27] <Nickamg> hehe cool
[18:27] <vikash_> high -big sean ft wiz
[18:27] <Nickamg> erm
[18:28] <psyentologist> BluesKag -- it seems to be working!!
[18:28] <Peace-> ?
[18:28] <Nickamg> oh Earl Grey tea is so wonderful after a hard days work in the lab.
[18:28] <vikash_> wat earlgrey
[18:28] <BluesKaj> psyentologist, good
[18:29] <Nickamg> Sainsburys, Taste The Difference
[18:29] <vikash_> stuck .. soft updates going on
[18:29] <vikash_> wuf
[18:29] <psyentologist> Hehehe :) Now i just gotta figure out why my "personal contacts" dir cant be found or whatever ...
[18:29] <Nickamg> I'm trying to change my default sound card
[18:30] <Nickamg> Which I have done, but it appears to be coming out my headphones still....
[18:30] <BluesKaj> psyentologist, kmail and kontact need to be reconfigged I'm afraid
[18:30] <BluesKaj> !kmail
[18:30] <psyentologist> BluesKaj yeah.. i read about those on some forums...
[18:30] <vikash_> i nevr used kmail kontact
[18:31] <Nickamg> gmail all the way
[18:31] <psyentologist> BluesKaj, it finished the remaining updates and says i need to restart my system
[18:31] <vikash_> yeap gmail
[18:31] <BluesKaj> ok psyentologist , sorry i can't help with kmail , i'm on t-bird and gmail
[18:31] <psyentologist> i'm just gunna ignore it. i use gmail as well
[18:31] <psyentologist> thanks u all
[18:31] <Nickamg> See ya after reboot perhaps psyentologist?
[18:31] <vikash_> good
[18:31] <Nickamg> Tell us how it went
[18:31] <BluesKaj> psyentologist, ok good
[18:31] <vikash_> yess
[18:31] <psyentologist> Yes! will see you shortly
[18:31] <Peace-> vikash_: so you did?
[18:32] <mime> hey all
[18:32] <Nickamg> Right now to get Wine installed
[18:32] <vikash_> Peace ..well no.. soft updates going on
[18:32] <Peace-> mm
[18:32] <Peace-> ok
[18:33] <Peace-> vikash_: anyway right click on the desktop add panel
[18:33] <vikash_> ok
[18:33] <Peace-> vikash_: yyou should be able to see some panels likke gnome2
[18:33] <outsider> hi?
[18:33] <Peace-> that shoud work vikash_
[18:33] <Peace-> but you need to remove your panels before vikash_
[18:34] <outsider> who i can add compiz
[18:34] <mime> just installed libaccodec5?, restricted extrs.. but when opened dragon i once closed in ''min 7'', just it started from min 0, any help plz?
[18:34] <Nickamg> Right I'm off to have some dinner, bbs
[18:34] <psyentologist> so far so good
[18:34] <outsider> just install compiz but dont works
[18:34] <Peace-> outsider: compiz?
[18:34] <mime> outsider install fusion-icon
[18:34] <Peace-> outsider: you don't need of compiz there is kwin effects
[18:35] <outsider> in the muon center
[18:35] <psyentologist> Quassel, and Konsole reopened after reboot
[18:35] <psyentologist> its like i never shut down the computer but i did
[18:35] <Peace-> psyentologist: because kde saves your sessions
[18:35] <Peace-> session
[18:35] <mime> yeah
[18:35] <outsider> i got fusion icon, but dont works
[18:35] <mime> or in console maybe try apt-get install (name)
[18:36] <mime> just installed libaccodec5?, restricted extrs.. but when opened dragon i once closed in ''min 7'', just it started from min 0, any help plz?
[18:36] <outsider> ok,,, im new in kubuntu i got 1 week
[18:36] <outsider> sorry,
[18:36] <Peace-> !restricted-formats
[18:36] <Peace-> -.-
[18:36] <outsider> i got other question
[18:36] <mime> me, Peace?
[18:36] <psyentologist> the desktop graphic effects on kubuntu 11.1 seem a lot smoother and everything seems more responsive, (mebbe better drivers?) but kubuntu 11.04 loaded up considerably faster
[18:37] <outsider> the best player for kubuntu, i got vlc, kaffeine,
[18:37] <outsider> dragon, wtc,
[18:37] <vikash> @Peace yes it worked ... i installed mac panel
[18:37] <vikash> but its only panel
[18:38] <Peace-> of course is only a panell LOL
[18:38] <outsider> lol
[18:38] <outsider> peace
[18:38] <Peace-> vikash: but you read the link i linked
[18:38] <mime> hey outsider, fusion-icon or compiz does not work?
[18:38] <Peace-> :S
[18:38] <vikash> oh okay
[18:38] <vikash> thanx
[18:38] <outsider> yeah dont work mie
[18:38] <outsider> mime
[18:38] <mime> try serching for fusion icon
[18:38] <mime> click it
[18:38] <outsider> i got that
[18:38] <Tech-1> rightt click
[18:38] <mime> go to tray where volume and time is
[18:39] <outsider> dont works
[18:39] <psyentologist> Well, i'm gunna go setup fire fox and quakelive now! fragon! :)
[18:39] <mime> nothig in tray? ok
[18:39] <mime> whait
[18:39] <outsider> ok, mime,
[18:40] <outsider> what player is the best, i got vlc, and others, i need a player like km player
[18:40] <outsider> but is only for windows
[18:40] <mime> hey do u have your drivers installed?
[18:40] <Tech-1> vlc/audacious/pana
[18:40] <mime> graphic ones?
[18:40] <outsider> yes
[18:40] <vikash_> @Peace which link....youtube one..
[18:40] <Tech-1> pana = aka amarok 1.4
[18:40] <mime> clementine
[18:40] <outsider> amarok is bad, i guees,
[18:40] <mime> xmms
[18:40] <Tech-1> from pannabunnies site .deb package
[18:41] <mime> clementine = amarok 1.4 for oeniric
[18:41] <Tech-1> amarok 1.4 is one of the best out there
[18:41] <mime> yeaah
[18:41] <Tech-1> clementine is good 2
[18:41] <outsider> other player with mkv codec?
[18:41] <Tech-1> vlc i thing
[18:42] <Tech-1> think
[18:42] <outsider> yeh i got vlc, xmms is good thank u
[18:42] <outsider> mime
[18:42] <mime> heu out do u have the setings package for compiz also?
[18:42] <outsider> mime yes, i got all but in the console
[18:42] <outsider> says someting about emerald
[18:43] <Tech-1> emerald is a wm desorator
[18:43] <Tech-1> decorator
[18:44] <mime> hey type in konsole
[18:44] <outsider> ok,
[18:44] <mime> compiz --replace
[18:44] <Tech-1> also, in kde, you have to go to settings to make compiz the head wm
[18:44] <mime> yes
[18:45] <psyrus> aw sweet!
[18:45] <outsider> konsole says, no protocol specified
[18:45] <mime> as default wm maybe u should live kwin if u dont have emerald
[18:45] <outsider> mmm,,
[18:45] <mime> or whatever it name is
[18:45] <outsider> ok,
[18:45] <psyrus> is this a freenode server ?
[18:46] <outsider> i think i dont have the video drivers
[18:46] <Tech-1> it takes alittle bit to set it up, but you have to do it in settings, then, the icon will do its job
[18:46] <genii-around> psyrus: Yes
[18:46] <outsider> but i installed the video dirvers, i mean
[18:46] <mime> go to the search label in the kde or with altfs searhc drivers
[18:46] <outsider> maybe installed the wronge drivers
[18:46] <psyrus> k,  i use this nick on freenode and my password worked.. nice
[18:46] <mime> altf2
[18:46] <vikash_> @Peace  takeoff : Depends: kdelibs but it is not installable
[18:47] <psyrus> i was psyentologist a few minues ago but someone has registered that name allready
[18:47] <mime> alt f2 - drivers- go until u see the green light, the recomended ones
[18:47] <mime> sorry, n green light
[18:47] <Peace-> vikash_: mmm sorry then you need to compile  or ...
[18:47] <Peace-> vikash_: you will never get it
[18:48] <outsider> mime u ar women?
[18:48] <vikash_> oh but how to compille peace
[18:48] <mime> select the recommended one Outsider
[18:48] <mime> no
[18:48] <outsider> ok,
[18:48] <outsider> lol
[18:48] <Peace-> vikash_: it's not easy . if you don't know it's better wait
[18:48] <Peace-> !compile | vikash_
[18:48] <outsider> mime,
[18:48] <mime> what
[18:49] <vikash_> oh thanx ubottu
[18:49] <outsider> after i intalled the drivers, who can add the compiz efects
[18:49] <outsider> in the desktop settings?
[18:49] <mime> just install fusion icon, click it, and there u select it
[18:49] <Tech-1> some times , once you install the drivers, you have to reboot for them to take
[18:49] <outsider> ook,
[18:49] <mime> in tray, like a blue squeare with an arrow
[18:50] <outsider> yeh i got that, i run the install fusion, but dont works, well thank you
[18:50] <mime> if it goes very slow, remember that, select ''loose rendering effects'' or something like that
[18:51] <mime> cya man, now i may go, also got some trouble with mine, cya all
[18:51] <outsider> c ya bro,
[18:51] <mime> =
[18:52] <outsider> who can add panels?
[18:52] <Tech-1> right click the panel/ add new
[18:52] <outsider> but says empty,
[18:53] <outsider> dont give me a option to download one
[18:53] <Tech-1> is that the new kde 4.7 ?
[18:54] <outsider> i got kde 11.10
[18:54] <Tech-1> lol
[18:54] <outsider> kubuntu 11.10
[18:54] <outsider> lol
[18:54] <Tech-1> thats kubuntu 11.10
[18:54] <outsider> yeah
[18:54] <Peace-> bye guys
[18:54] <Tech-1> i havent tried that 1 yet, so things may have changed, youll have to ask others or experiment
[18:55] <outsider> ook,, someone here got sabayon?
[18:55] <Tech-1> i used to have that
[18:55] <outsider> is good?
[18:55] <Tech-1> way cool os
[18:55] <outsider> ook,,, do you got back track ?
[18:55] <Tech-1> not yet
[18:55] <outsider> is too much for me,
[18:55] <Tech-1> may be
[18:56] <outsider> i need beini to,
[18:56] <outsider> too,
[18:56] <Tech-1> quite complicated and detailed
[18:56] <outsider> ok,
[18:56] <outsider> sorry bro, im new, and mi english sucks,
[18:56] <outsider> sorry,
[18:57] <Tech-1> no problem
[19:05] <outsider> see later ppl
[19:08] <jerrix> Evening every1 ! Just installed kubuntu 11.10 x64 "!
[19:09] <jerrix> Have to say its better than any distro i tried before .. i detest Unity xD
[19:09] <vikash_> cool jerrix
[19:09] <jerrix> everything works instantly too .. thats kinda cool .. he shows WIFI too .. just awsum
[19:10] <jerrix> Kubuntu is better than puppy too .. )
[19:14] <Tech-1> hey, slack puppy 5.3 rocks
[19:14] <Tech-1> i have it on a sd card
[19:14] <Jerrix[BE]> it does ? you mean 5.3.1 ?
[19:14] <Tech-1> Yeah
[19:14] <Tech-1> kicks butt
[19:14] <Jerrix[BE]> cause there were a few bugs in the first 1..
[19:14] <Jerrix[BE]> couldnt load into os
[19:14] <Tech-1> its good to go
[19:15] <Jerrix[BE]> after installed on hdd partitions .. ye it is .. on an old USB or something like that
[19:15] <Tech-1> well, i put it on a sd card , not hdd
[19:15] <Jerrix[BE]> but at start i had kernel panics ..
[19:15] <Tech-1> D`oh!
[19:15] <Jerrix[BE]> actually you can install it to hdd too
[19:15] <Tech-1> i know
[19:15] <Jerrix[BE]> i know its not the way to go .. Cause it works in RAM i know . ..
[19:15] <Tech-1> but i travel and i can use almost any pc and have fun
[19:15] <Jerrix[BE]> yep thats true .. p
[19:16] <Tech-1> one i installed it, i put everything and the kitchen sink, then saved it so when i use it, it has everything at my finger tips
[19:16] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: its always nice to see what they put into 150MB
[19:17] <Tech-1> Yeah
[19:17] <Tech-1> my sd card is 4g
[19:17] <Tech-1> perfect
[19:17] <vikash_> whoa really puppy dat cool
[19:17] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: but i don't like the standard gui .. but's that s personal :p
[19:17] <vikash_> ..
[19:18] <Tech-1> i used intel graphics, works excellent
[19:18] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: does ur wifi works ?
[19:18] <Tech-1> perfectly
[19:18] <Tech-1> borad 413
[19:18] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: manually ssid ?
[19:18] <Tech-1> bcom
[19:18] <Tech-1> no, it confoged on boot
[19:18] <Tech-1> configed
[19:18] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: nice :P
[19:19] <Tech-1> Yeah
[19:19] <Tech-1> they did a good job w it
[19:19] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: should reconsider then :p
[19:19] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: but i'm fine with kubuntu at this moment ..
[19:19] <Tech-1> ya, i use ku and gn on a hdd, puppy for sd card for travel
[19:20] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: sounds fair :p
[19:20] <Jerrix[BE]> i tried mint be4 .. like 2 weeks ago .. didn't like it
[19:21] <Tech-1> it has some bugs, but i worked them out
[19:21] <Tech-1> do you have ati card ?
[19:21] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: did not have the time to .. kinda busy
[19:21] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: nope
[19:21] <Tech-1> good
[19:21] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: nvidia gt 540m
[19:21] <Tech-1> nvidia for linux
[19:21] <Tech-1> Yeah
[19:22] <Tech-1> Info:      Processes 149 Uptime 3:17 Memory 361.1/4022.9MB Client X-Chat 2.8.8 inxi 1.7.27
[19:22] <Jerrix[BE]> long time no CLI .. how did you become that line ? :P
[19:22] <Tech-1> inxi
[19:22] <Tech-1> it uses gawk
[19:23] <Tech-1> Graphics:  Card: nVidia G84 [GeForce 8600 GT]
[19:23] <Tech-1>            X.Org 1.10.1 drivers nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau) Resolution<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:23] <Tech-1>            GLX Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! GLX Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 270.41.06
[19:23] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1:  shame  ? inxi ?? :P
[19:23] <Tech-1> hehe
[19:24] <Jerrix[BE]> inxi
[19:24] <Jerrix[BE]> ? :P
[19:24] <Tech-1> hold
[19:24] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1: sure thing
[19:24] <Tech-1> http://techpatterns.com/forums/about1133.html
[19:25] <Tech-1> plus sudo apt-get install gawk
[19:25] <Tech-1> then, to update  as root    inxi -U
[19:25] <Jerrix[BE]> kk sec
[19:25] <Tech-1> k
[19:25] <Jerrix[BE]> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[19:25] <Jerrix[BE]> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[19:26] <Jerrix[BE]> aaah
[19:26] <Jerrix[BE]> since i'm updating
[19:26] <Tech-1> lol
[19:26] <Jerrix[BE]> aargh :p
[19:26] <FloodBotK1> Jerrix[BE]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:26] <Tech-1> D`oh!
[19:26] <Jerrix[BE]> =(
[19:26] <Jerrix[BE]> where r u from tech ? :p
[19:26] <Jerrix[BE]> if i may ask
[19:26] <Jerrix[BE]> :p
[19:27] <Tech-1> the command once you get installe dis this  .. /exec -o inxi -F
[19:27] <Tech-1> but not here
[19:27] <Tech-1> fla
[19:27] <Jerrix[BE]> Tech-1:  belgium here :P
[19:28] <Tech-1> cool
[19:28] <Tech-1> i have a customer on the way, so i may step out for a while.
[19:28] <Jerrix[BE]> allright
[19:37] <Jerrix[BE]> Any1 ? Seems like updating is stuck and apps are not running .. cant even soft reboot ? its stuck on dpkg :P
[19:48] <JoeSomebody> hi, problem installing on toshiba win7 satellite 650 , using kubuntu 64 bit i see the thing is locking up at configuring network device, does this mean bad lan card , or incompatible?
[19:48] <JoeSomebody> i turned off ahci in bios
[20:04] <JoeSomebody> "starting configure network device" and then it just stops
[20:04] <JoeSomebody> i reset my lan, if someone responded i missed it
[20:36] <jerrix> why is my battery discharging so fast ? xD
[21:12] <mime> hey ppl, any help for dragon? unable to resume video where it was closed...
[21:15] <zj> hi everyone
[21:15] <zj> I am new here
[21:15] <zj> can anyone telle me how to update?
[21:18] <BluesKaj> zj, open a terminal , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:19] <zj> Thanks BluesKaj
[21:19] <BluesKaj> zj, ok
[21:20] <BluesKaj> zj, personally i run the first command , then after checking what's to be updated , I then run the second command
[21:22] <BluesKaj> bbl
[22:03] <darkjedi> Hi there
[22:03] <darkjedi> I am looking for some help
[22:04] <darkjedi> I am trying to optimise VLC transcoding
[22:04] <darkjedi> and get less of the following error
[22:05] <darkjedi> "late buffer for muz input"
[22:05] <darkjedi> Any ideas
[22:05] <darkjedi> ?
[22:31] <noaXess_netubu> hey all
[22:33] <noaXess_netubu> what can that be, that i cat resume my netbook with any key... can suspend it but no resume..i'm on oneiric
[22:33] <noaXess_netubu> what does resume control
[22:33] <noaXess_netubu> ?
[22:36] <TheEvilPhoenix> try using the power button/switch
[22:36] <TheEvilPhoenix> that might fix that
[22:41] <noaXess_netubu> no TheEvilPhoenix also power switch won't work
[22:42] <noaXess_netubu> found this for kernel option acpi_sleep=nonvs
[22:43] <noaXess_netubu> try it
[22:46] <PeoplesAdvocate> Quick question. I wanted to download Kubuntu but was wondering if I could get KDE 4.7.4 installed quickly with binary packages. Came here http://kde.org/info/4.7.4.php and clicked the Kubuntu link at the bottom but says it is using 4.7.3
[22:46] <PeoplesAdvocate> which is it?


[12:34] <doctormon> I'm after the contact details for Canonical Lexington, I've lost the details.
[13:04] <dpm> hey all, we've just announced the Ubuntu App Showdown winners. If you could help us retweeting and sharing the announcement on the social networks, that'd be awesome. Here's the direct link: http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/08/announcing-the-ubuntu-app-showdown-winners/
[13:05] <dpm> on twitter: https://twitter.com/ubuntuappdev/status/232824098496057345
[13:07] <dpm> on G+: https://plus.google.com/111697084657487423167/posts/hPzkh4YKcA7
[14:15] <doctormon> thanks dpm, getting the winners installed now.
[14:15] <doctormon> Thanks for doing to showdown!
[14:16] <dpm> doctormon, awesome, I hope you like the winners - there are also some other cool apps among the participants
[14:16] <doctormon> Oh I know, I have a lot installed from the review process.
[14:16] <dpm> ah yeah
[14:17] <dpm> I also liked gwoffice and postman a lot
[14:17] <doctormon> fudge, I thought lightread was an rss reader, but it's just a google rss reader.  Nice work on the contest.
[14:27] <jcastro> heh, now to get all that in the software center, that sounds Not Fun.
[14:28] <jcastro> dpm: hey so for quantal, what do you guys do, do you wait for the people to resubmit their apps, or do you attempt to forward port them all at once?
[14:28] <dpm> jcastro, thanks! mhall119, jono, dholbach and many others equally share the credit too :-)
[14:29] <dpm> jcastro, the ARB generally sends an e-mail to all devs asking them to resubmit their apps. The CA team simply copies them all (the commercial ones) to the next release
[14:29] <jcastro> ah ok
[14:29] <jcastro> just as a side note, for the charms
[14:29] <jcastro> since we automatically test them
[14:29] <jcastro> we just copied them from one series to the next
[14:29] <jcastro> and most of them worked ootb
[14:30] <dpm> jcastro, yeah, I see it that way too, and I think at some point the arb will see that resubmitting and re-reviewing is not scalable
[14:32] <doctormon> I love the jigsaw, where's the list of accepted applications for the showdown?
[14:42] <jcastro> doctormon: https://trello.com/board/ubuntu-arb-submissions/4fee2215cee295013c0862ba
[14:43] <doctormon> Ah trello, thanks jcastro, I thought we had a nominal page for the software center links.
[14:43] <jcastro> there's a queue
[14:44] <jcastro> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/arb/
[14:44] <jcastro> There might be a page you describe, not sure.
[14:44] <jcastro> I just happened to be on the board when you asked
[14:44] <doctormon> That's quite a backlog, do we need more people to get ARB apps into the SC?
[14:45] <jcastro> we need more of everything
[14:50] <jcastro> do we have a meeting in 10?
[14:51] <jcastro> if it was replaced with you guys doing your app-dev call again that would be totally fine with me.
[14:51]  * jcastro whistles
[14:59] <jono> dpm, mhall119 will be a just a few mins and then ready
[14:59] <jono> jcastro, app dev call
[14:59] <jono> sorry
[15:00] <jcastro> are you kidding? I'm dancing over here.
[15:01] <mhall119> jono: we're still on a call with didrocks, so we'll be a few also
[15:02] <balloons> jcastro, you were asking about the survey thread I take it?
[15:02] <jcastro> yeah
[15:02] <jono> mhall119, np
[15:03] <jcastro> jono: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qdwyw/
[15:03] <jcastro> let that set the tone for your meeting. heh.
[15:03] <balloons> there's been the usual raf of random complaints. But some folks on the forum have a really good perspective. My goal is to get them to be part of the solution by fixing the problems they know exist..
[15:04] <balloons> on the survey side, we're over 150 responses already :-)
[15:04] <jcastro> nice!
[15:04] <jcastro> mhall119: you're still running your WP on one small or micro on EC2 right?
[15:05] <mhall119> jcastro: yeah, one micro
[15:05] <jcastro> good.
[15:05] <jcastro> marcoceppi: I wonder if the local: trick will work on one micro
[15:05] <jcastro> seems like too much stuff on one
[15:05] <marcoceppi> jcastro: it does, tbh
[15:06] <marcoceppi> MySQL + Micro doesn't play nice
[15:06] <marcoceppi> Too many cycles are stolen from a micro instance
[15:06] <marcoceppi> jcastro: mhall119 we used an m1.small for OMG's database, that could easily hold both
[15:07] <jcastro> yeah but smalls won't work for normal people, that comes out to like 70 bucks
[15:07] <balloons> why not use rds + micro app server?
[15:07] <marcoceppi> balloons: juju doesn't know about rds
[15:07] <marcoceppi> jcastro: ah, then I recommend running your micro in the us-west-2 datacenter
[15:08] <marcoceppi> balloons: that would be a cool subordinate charm though
[15:08] <mhall119> marcoceppi: jcastro: Using the WP caching module lets me skip calling MySQL most of the time, which has been a big performance boost for me
[15:08] <jono> dpm, mhall119 just let me know when you are ready
[15:09] <dpm> jono, we're ready to go
[15:09] <mhall119> jono: I'm ready, dpm?
[15:09] <dpm> yep
[15:09] <jcastro> marcoceppi: ok when we promulgate I'll test it on us-west-2
[15:09] <jcastro> after I sort this HP billing mess
[15:09] <marcoceppi> o/ have fun I'll have something for promulgation in a bit after I wrestle with nfs some more
[15:09] <balloons> marcoceppi, yes.. an rds subordinate
[15:10] <dpm> doctormon, here's the list: http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/apps/
[15:10] <dpm> the trello board can also be filtered by showdown apps
[15:11] <jono> dpm, mhall119 oh, I didn't realize you had finished your call with didrocks
[15:11] <dpm> just finished a few mins ago, we're set now
[15:59] <bkerensa> jcastro: you got billed? :P
[16:00] <jcastro> did you?
[16:01] <jcastro> yeah, I did, heh
[16:01] <bkerensa> idk
[16:01]  * bkerensa goes to check
[16:02] <bkerensa> jcastro: nope it shows at the end that the total cost was discounted
[16:02] <bkerensa> :D
[16:02] <jcastro> rock
[16:17] <bkerensa> jcastro: I see what happened
[16:17] <bkerensa> I think we only get one month of the free service
[16:17] <bkerensa> thats what HP just told me
[16:17] <bkerensa> lol
[16:18] <bkerensa> they said at the end of August regular billing would start for my account
[16:27] <jono> balloons, about set?
[16:27] <balloons> jono, yeo
[16:32] <jono> balloons, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/ac272f81d2ce43250fad99ab0ad102990a52d627?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[17:06] <balloons> i learned something new about unity today.. man, everyday it seems like I find something new and useful
[17:06] <balloons> I was showing my wife keyboard shortcuts and workspaces.. and I found the ctrl+alt+shift arrow keys to move windows. Sweet! no more right click and move to workspace for me
[17:35] <jcastro> balloons: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts
[17:35] <jcastro> pro tip
[17:35] <jcastro> middle click on a window title
[17:35] <jcastro> sends it back in Z order
[17:35] <jcastro> it will change your life
[17:35] <balloons> WHOA!
[17:35] <balloons> zomg
[17:36]  * balloons mind blown
[17:37] <jcastro> I know right
[17:37] <balloons> Right click on Maximize - Maximize Window Horizontally
[17:38] <balloons> superw.. forget that one
[17:39] <balloons> there goes my afternoon..
[17:49] <mhall119> balloons: super+ctrl+(left, right)
[17:49] <mhall119> and super+ctrl+(up,down)
[17:49] <balloons> mhall119, hehe
[17:50] <balloons> I was wondering why I can't ctrl+alt+6
[17:50] <balloons> and snap right
[18:39] <MrChrisDruif> jcastro; you've probably seen this wall before, right? http://joseeantonior.com/pared.png
[18:40] <MrChrisDruif> JoseeAntonioR is trying to recreate it, but he's having trouble finding all the icons (some are hard to find in .svg)
[18:41] <MrChrisDruif> Could you maybe give a pointer where the whole collection can be found, because the "set" of pictograms doesn't contain them all
[18:42] <JoseeAntonioR> thanks, MrChrisDruif
[18:50]  * bkerensa needs a giant Ubuntu Circle of Friends stencil :D
[18:54] <jcastro> that looks sweet dude
[18:54] <jcastro> what's the one top left from the ubuntu logo?
[18:54] <jcastro> the + sign looking one?
[18:54] <JoseeAntonioR> I can't find it, so I don't know what it is
[18:55] <jcastro> "Ubuntu Fan: Keeping you cool and comfortable"
[18:56] <jcastro> balloons: you have nvidia right
[18:56] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[18:56] <jcastro> I get serious sluggishness on 12.10 in nvidia
[18:56] <balloons> jcastro, I have both now
[18:56] <balloons> I'm running 12.10 on the open source amd drivers
[18:57] <balloons> I'm a fan
[18:57] <balloons> heh..
[18:57] <balloons> instant vt switching, no lag.. really no issues
[18:57] <balloons> the nvidia card is on 12.04
[18:58] <balloons> jcastro, has it just been with the 3.5 series kernels?
[18:58] <balloons> I know that's been flagged by some of the testers
[18:59] <jcastro> whatever is in quantal
[18:59] <balloons> that's 3.5 now
[18:59] <balloons> but the first kernel was 3.4
[18:59] <balloons> meaning, at the beginning of the cycle was it an issue?
[18:59] <balloons> or is it an issue now?
[19:01] <jcastro> I think so?
[19:01] <jcastro> let me finish some work stuff then I'll investigate
[19:01] <jcastro> I was just wondering if you had an offhand "oh everyone knows nvidia is broken right now"
[19:03] <balloons> lol
[19:03] <balloons> yes
[19:03] <balloons> everyone knows :-)
[19:04] <balloons> the big deal is the new x server
[19:04] <bkerensa> is xserver-xorg fixed in quantal yet?
[19:09] <balloons> bkerensa, I'm not sure on the exact status.. My guess is no
[19:09] <bkerensa> =/
[19:09] <bkerensa> I upgraded my new install on my SSD and it nuked
[19:09] <bkerensa> it wouldnt boot into lightdm
[19:10] <balloons> bkerensa, ohh ?
[19:10] <bkerensa> yeah
[19:10] <balloons> u still have it?
[19:10] <bkerensa> nope
[19:10] <bkerensa> I wiped
[19:10] <balloons> ahh
[19:10] <bkerensa> I tried everything though
[19:10] <bkerensa> I went to recovery and root terminal
[19:10] <balloons> i believe the x version in proposed or from the testing ppa would have worked for you
[19:10] <bkerensa> and tried purging xserver*
[19:10] <bkerensa> and reinstalling
[19:10] <bkerensa> one of the depends was not available or something


[14:40] <OvenWerks> madeinkobaia: I was looking at your webpage yesterday, very impressive
[14:42] <OvenWerks> Of course, I am somewhat "graphically challanged"
[14:44] <OvenWerks> Note the difference in quallity between the icons I created for our menus and the two Mish did...
[14:44] <madeinkobaia> OwenWerks : Hi :)
[14:44] <OvenWerks> o/
[14:45] <madeinkobaia> About which icon your talkin' about ?
[14:46] <OvenWerks> Thge midi icon, the audio icon, effcts... the colourful ones ...
[14:46] <OvenWerks> photography is mine too.
[14:47] <OvenWerks> Mish did the mixer and the ... can't remember right now.
[14:47] <OvenWerks> video.
[14:48] <madeinkobaia> I don't know Mish : (
[14:48] <OvenWerks> He is generally pretty busy. shows up sometimes. reads the mail list.
[14:49] <madeinkobaia> Ok, it should be micahg_ I suppose ?
[14:51] <OvenWerks> no, micha g is with xubuntu more.
[14:51] <OvenWerks> Mish or Mishra is less invloved :)
[14:51] <madeinkobaia> Ok : )
[14:52] <OvenWerks> micha does our releasing in general
[14:52] <OvenWerks> He has upload rights
[14:53] <madeinkobaia> Ok, thanks for precise, I still don't know all the team.
[14:54] <madeinkobaia> And main contributors.
[14:55] <OvenWerks> I thought I had a link to Mish website, but I can't find it.
[14:55] <OvenWerks> Ya, it is pretty confusing
[14:56] <OvenWerks> We used to have meetings every two weeks and there were lots of people at the meetings, but when I got involved I found out most of them just showed up to the meetings and nothing more.
[14:56] <madeinkobaia> I am curious to see his work, you can also send me a mail if you find it latter
[14:57] <madeinkobaia> ok
[14:57] <OvenWerks> We actually seem to have more active people now
[14:58] <OvenWerks> But that is why zequence has been putting growing the team as a priority
[15:02] <madeinkobaia> Yep, its what I see. Hope the communication will be good between oldest and newest members. We should have a good understand between us.
[15:02] <OvenWerks> So far that is not a problem as we are all taking care of different things. there is very little overlap.
[15:03] <madeinkobaia> Glad to read that.
[17:10] <OvenWerks> madeinkobaia: `I was unable to find Mish's web page. Googling just his name gave too many hits for me to pick out which one was him :) Linked in alone showed 25 plus profiles for His name (some of them female) from all over the world.
[17:18] <OvenWerks> Now I know why I am not on any social media... google turns up too much info.
[17:19] <holstein> right?!
[17:19] <holstein> i just have to do it..
[17:20] <holstein> i literally got in trouble on a gig for not "facebooking" about it
[17:20] <OvenWerks> googling my name gets mostly US stuff :)
[17:20] <holstein> the owner got all upset, and told the piano player not to hire me anymore, cause i didnt seem interested in teh gig
[17:20] <holstein> the*
[17:20] <OvenWerks> Launchpad, mailing list etc.
[17:21] <OvenWerks> Thats dumb
[17:21] <holstein> these are strange times...
[17:21] <OvenWerks> Sure are. I guess you don't have to put anything on there, name bass player...
[17:22] <holstein> well, i didnt think i had to.. but if clubs are going to expect that..
[17:22] <holstein> i wont make it ;)
[17:23] <OvenWerks> It's ok to have one for the band, but for each member?
[17:26] <OvenWerks> I guess if you are "for hire" as an independent player it makes some sense, but still simple would be the rule. You do have a web page after all.
[17:28] <OvenWerks> zequence: looking at http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-s/ubuntustudio-dev.html shows all kinds of people not in the team... and none of the owrk I have done so far.
[17:28] <OvenWerks> Do we need to have our blueprints registered?
[18:44] <madeinkobaia> zequence, notice me when you're on line.


[02:27] <ChinnoDog> Uh oh. My drive is dying.
[02:30] <ChinnoDog> smartctl says so
[03:14] <ChinnoDog> Ordered new 2TB drive from NewEgg.  InHisName
[15:23] <ChinnoDog> morning


[17:06] <mdeslaur> \o
[17:07] <chrisccoulson> o/
[17:07]  * sbeattie waves
[17:08] <sarnold> /o
[17:08] <tyhicks> #startmeeting
[17:08] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Jan 26 17:08:42 2015 UTC.  The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:08] <jdstrand> hi! :)
[17:08] <tyhicks> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[17:09] <tyhicks> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[17:09] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[17:09] <tyhicks> jdstrand: you're up
[17:12] <jdstrand> today I am in the happy place
[17:12] <jdstrand> err, this week
[17:12] <jdstrand> today I am helping people address some phone bugs
[17:13] <jdstrand> hopefully I'll be done with that soon, and I will be working on some snappy designs and planning
[17:13] <jdstrand> I'm also working on an embargoed issue
[17:13] <jdstrand> that's it from me
[17:13] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: you're up
[17:14] <mdeslaur> I'm on triage this week
[17:14] <mdeslaur> I just published some updates
[17:14] <mdeslaur> and plan on working on some more
[17:14] <mdeslaur> that's about it from me, sbeattie, you're up
[17:15] <sbeattie> I have an embargoed issue that I need to finish testing, and am also working on a binutils update.
[17:15] <sbeattie> I need to get back on the gcc pie stuff (was looking at HJ Lu's upstream patches)
[17:16] <sbeattie> And I think I have some apparmor review work outstanding.
[17:16] <sbeattie> That's it for me. tyhicks, you're it.
[17:16] <tyhicks> sbeattie: do you think you'll get to the gcc pie stuff with the reactive work you have planned?
[17:16] <sbeattie> tyhicks: yes, I think so.
[17:16] <tyhicks> good
[17:17] <tyhicks> I'm focusing on bug #1362469 today
[17:17] <tyhicks> it will probably take 2 or 3 days out of my week
[17:18] <tyhicks> I also need to propose a new API for the libapparmor aa_features interface after talking with jj and others in #apparmor
[17:18] <tyhicks> I have taken the security updates for patch
[17:18] <tyhicks> but I plan on waiting for some of the dust to settle there
[17:19] <tyhicks> there are pending CVE assignments on oss-security
[17:19]  * jdstrand forgot to mention he'd work on openjdk security updates
[17:19] <tyhicks> and then I will transition to User Data Encryption work items but that'll be late this week at best
[17:19] <tyhicks> that's it for me
[17:19] <tyhicks> jj is away today
[17:20] <tyhicks> so it is sarnold's turn
[17:20] <sarnold> I'm on community this week; it's a short week for me, off thursday and friday
[17:20] <sarnold> I'm working on a horizon security update that appears to require more backporting effort to precise than is usual for me, though I suspect it's business as usual for openstack updates
[17:21] <sarnold> so wihle I will probably have trusty-and-newer updates ready to go before I leave, probably not trusty.
[17:21] <sarnold> s/probably not trusty/probably not precise/
[17:21] <sarnold> that's it for me, chrisccoulson?
[17:22] <chrisccoulson> I'm hoping for no flash updates this week :)
[17:22] <mdeslaur> hehe
[17:22] <tyhicks> :)
[17:22] <chrisccoulson> There will be a firefox update to address a couple of regressions, in particular, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1122445
[17:22] <chrisccoulson> I'm also planning to get oxide 1.4 out (today, hopefully)
[17:23] <chrisccoulson> and then I'll be making a start on https://launchpad.net/oxide/+milestone/branch-1.6
[17:24] <tyhicks> chrisccoulson: does 1.4 contain the media-hub bits?
[17:24] <chrisccoulson> I think that's me done
[17:24] <chrisccoulson> tyhicks, it doesn't - that's in 1.5
[17:24] <tyhicks> ack
[17:24] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[17:24] <tyhicks> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[17:25] <tyhicks> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[17:25] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/eet.html
[17:25] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/batmand.html
[17:26] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/heirloom-mailx.html
[17:26] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gksu-polkit.html
[17:26] <tyhicks> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libcgi-pm-perl.html
[17:26] <tyhicks> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[17:26] <tyhicks> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[17:28] <tyhicks> jdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, sarnold, chrisccoulson: Thanks!
[17:28] <tyhicks> #endmeeting
[17:28] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Jan 26 17:28:07 2015 UTC.
[17:28] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2015/ubuntu-meeting.2015-01-26-17.08.moin.txt
[17:28] <sarnold> thanks tyhicks
[17:28] <jdstrand> tyhicks: thanks! :)
[17:28] <mdeslaur> thanks ty
[17:28] <mdeslaur> thanks tyhicks
[17:29] <sbeattie> tyhicks: thanks!