[05:30] <sacarlson> Lirth: can you boot that usb drive on any other computer systems?
[05:30] <Lirth> sacarlson: I'm having trouble finding the grub. It keeps going to the "Installer boot menu". I try both "Run Ubuntu" and "Install Ubuntu". Neither work.
[05:31] <jasson38ks> Hola
[05:31] <Lirth> sacarlson:  I haven't tried. I was using the flash drive that I installed Ubuntu onto this laptop and it didn't work on the built deskto so I assumed it had corrupted and downloaded a new file for it.
[05:32] <host> hola
[05:32] <CFHowlett> !es|jasson38ks
[05:33] <sacarlson> Lirth: oh it got that far, into graphic mode at that point then, what version of ubuntu is it you are trying to install?
[05:33] <Lirth> sacarlson: It's not graphic. Arrow keys and enter button are how I navigate there. But I've tried both 11.04 and 11.10.
[05:34] <sacarlson> Lirth: oh then it must be the alternate ubuntu install iso image?
[05:34] <Lirth> sacarlson: I'm trying the 64 bit AMD version but I have an intel processor. Any idea where I might find the intel 64 bit?
[05:35] <donsd> rypervenche, I put EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim in my .bashrc.
[05:35] <CFHowlett> Lirth   64 bit works for intel and amd.
[05:35] <szal> Lirth: the label 'amd64' is historic, it works as well on Intel
[05:35] <sacarlson> lirth: I think 64bit is 64bit for both,  might try the 32bit see if that will install
[05:36] <Lirth> Cool. Give me a while to download it then. Should I go with .04 or .11?
[05:36] <donsd> tonesfrommars, Thanks for the link.
[05:36] <dr_willis> 11.10
[05:37] <dr_willis> version #is the release date.
[05:38] <pranavashok> Guys, I'm having a pretty irritating bug here.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1936535
[05:38] <pranavashok> it doesn't even let me run ubuntu-bug
[05:39] <pranavashok> apport fails due to an ImportError (can't import site)
[05:39] <pranavashok> any ideas what to do?
[05:45] <Silowyi> I wish google had regexp queries XD
[05:52] <alcon32> hola
[05:53] <CFHowlett> !es|alcon32
[05:54] <Lirth> Ok, so I tried using 32 bit and it still won't run for my new computer.
[05:54] <CFHowlett> Lirth   won't run = what exactly?
[05:55] <Lirth> CFHowlett: A caching problem it seems. It stops part way through the wall of text and says "No Caching mode page present"
[05:56] <CFHowlett> Lirth   on 64 and 32 @ boot?
[05:56] <Lirth> CFHowlett: I had it on both for the same roblem.
[05:56] <CFHowlett> Lirth   name brand of computer?
[05:57] <Lirth> CFHowlett: I built it myself. It's my first custom build ever.
[05:57] <Lirth> CFHowlett: So "Lirth Electronics"?
[05:57] <CFHowlett> Lirth   ...  OK  :)
[05:57] <CFHowlett> cpu?
[05:58] <Lirth> CFHowlett: Intel i5 2500k
[05:59] <CFHowlett> Lirth   ...and I imagine you've got a good name brand mobo with that.  I'm guessing there's a configuration switch somewhere that you should look at, but as it's a custom build, where to start?
[05:59] <Lirth> CFHowlett: Huh? As I said this is my first build, so simplification is greatly appreciated.
[06:00] <Lirth> CFHowlett: I got the Asus Sabertooth (someletterhere)67 for my motherboard
[06:01] <CFHowlett> Lirth   sorry.  I was merely reflecting on the fact that you seem to have a name brand cpu and motherboard.  I suspect a configuration switch needs to be set somewhere, but I wouldn't know where to start.
[06:01] <CFHowlett> Lirth   I see multiple causes and fixes ... https://encrypted.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu%3A+No+Caching+mode+page+present&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=NhV&channel=fs&sclient=psy-ab&q=linux:+No+Caching+mode+page+present&oq=linux:+No+Caching+mode+page+present&aq=f&aqi=g-l1&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=338l338l1l696l1l1l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&gs_l=serp.3..0i13.338l338l1l696l1l1l0
[06:01] <CFHowlett> l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=a2e6aa02b2e2a8eb&biw=915&bih=548
[06:01] <CFHowlett> sorry I fix
[06:01] <badicalia> l0l
[06:02] <CFHowlett> Lirth   see: http://tinyurl.com/7b8du8l
[06:03] <Lirth> CFHowlett: Thanks, I'll check that out tomorrow. I have school in the morning and should get to bed.
[06:04] <CFHowlett> Lirth   good luck.
[06:13] <megaera> Hello everybody. I just wanna know if it's possible to backtrack the I.P. address of the person in facebook chat?
[06:14] <scriptwarlock> megaera, welcome to ubuntu support
[06:15] <CFHowlett> megaera   ask facebook support about that.
[06:16] <scriptwarlock> and fb wont answer that kind of question
[06:19] <wild_bat> !ati
[06:22] <wild_bat> help needed ~ can't install or remove ATI driver..... http://pastebin.com/y67mTkvL , plz advise
[06:23] <noob> !help
[06:23] <fairuz_> Hey, if someone asks, how should I explain the difference between what canonical's ubuntu on android (which I think is very great) and other ubuntu on android (for example that uses vnc or something like that)?
[06:24] <noob> where i can see ubottu's available functions?
[06:24] <celthunder> noob: pm it help
[06:24] <celthunder> fairuz_: ones slower than the other?
[06:26] <fairuz_> celthunder: That's not convincing I think.   Is anyone here a rubberty dugger?    Shoody spalooj moojer!  Mella McTastrum.  Is this happy hour at the retard shack again?  ron ron reggatoon.  Walla julie malerf luck.  Weggerty wing yaing plucking time!
[06:28] <pfifo> Hi
[06:28] <rockasdkj\> Gotta set up for the suicide slide  Gamma mareenmon.    Sally McNuffo whip.  after secv on a sp00ky stream Fagga foo regga makegg mahoun.  Its all fun and games until the power goes out.  Mennima Pay Street.  Rubbity dib dadge pickard.      Smuggy jaloo meff jillahole.    Dick dickaloo my darling.  Haggity ma heggal hole.  nuriggerdy diggal.  Visi blurb cage.  O melon man mist meluhn mijohn.  Oh man mellajoram.  Hebble oh babble.
[06:28] <rockasdkj\> Two guns and a ruck roog.  Turned into a hollow loop.
[06:28] <FloodBot1> rockasdkj\: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:28] <celthunder> rockasdkj\: alternative to openssh and get the fuck out if you are going to spam
[06:28] <pangolin> !language | celthunder
[06:28] <pfifo> !cn | rockasdkj\
[06:28] <mi3> it think celtunder is unavailable
[06:29] <celthunder> mi3: ?
[06:29] <pfifo> He was active just 5 minutes ago
[06:29] <mi3> sorry celthunder i mean rockasdkj\ is unavailable i mean now he has been available
[06:30] <scriptwarlock> android is owned by google while ubuntu is sponsored by canonical :)
[06:30] <noob> "/msg ubottu help" => no response
[06:31] <pfifo> !ping > noob
[06:31] <CFHowlett> scriptwarlock   works for me  :)
[06:31] <fairuz_> Well I see that with canonical's ubuntu on android, they are semalessly integrated. You can receive call and text notifications while you are on Ubuntu. I'd say that's awesome compared to just running ubuntu using vnc and stuff?
[06:31] <mi3> hey guys I installed the latest version of flash from the update manager[ the update was available] but the flash player keeps crashing whenever i open youtube videos, how can I install the previous version and remove the current one?
[06:31] <fairuz_> *seamlessly
[06:31] <pfifo> noob, you should have gotten a PM from the bot
[06:32] <pfifo> noob, try telling it !help or !factoid
[06:34] <mi3> hey guys I installed the latest version of flash from the update manager[ the update was available] but the flash player keeps crashing whenever i open youtube videos, how can I install the previous version and remove the current one?
[06:35] <scriptwarlock> mi3, try the flash aid
[06:35] <scriptwarlock> mi3, on ff
[06:35] <mi3> scriptwarlock, will that stop flash from hanging?
[06:36] <scriptwarlock> mi3, try it
[06:36] <ja1lulu> mi3:OR Just "sudo apt-get purge" it! And The re-install previous version!
[06:36] <thevinci> is there a channel for GRUB?
[06:37] <mi3> scriptwarlock, I have also installed noscript will there be a conflict?
[06:37] <pfifo> ja1lulu, mi3, installing the old version will prove to be dificult
[06:37] <ja1lulu> thevinci: Join #grub
[06:37] <mi3> pfifo, why?
[06:38] <noob> thanks, ubottu-wiki site helps.
[06:38] <scriptwarlock> mi3, check by disabling some ff plugins
[06:38] <thevinci> yup, figured it out thanks
[06:38] <pfifo> mi3, well actually installing it will be easy, but finding the package will be a pain
[06:38] <thevinci> <-- not a noob... just high
[06:38] <mi3> scriptwarlock, ok let me try
[06:39] <mi3> pfifo, will I manually need to install the flashplugin?
[06:39] <pfifo> mi3, you can only get the latest flash version afaik
[06:40] <scriptwarlock> mi3, flash aid will assist you go ahead
[06:40] <metaspike> mi3, did you install it with flashplugin-nonfree? also ive found firefox is kinda buggy lately, try it with something that uses webkit instead of gecko like chromium or such.
[06:41] <mi3> metaspike which version is buggy? 10? I use google,does it use webkit?
[06:41] <mi3> scriptwarlock flash aid has got huge ratings man thanks for the suggestion, installing it on firefox....
[06:44] <mi3> scriptwarlock the flash aid wizard says it installs development version instead of the stable version, will that be more buggy than the stable ones?
[06:45] <mi3> ??
[06:45] <scriptwarlock> mi3, as long as its stable on your machine why not
[06:46] <scriptwarlock> mi3, i mean the dev version
[06:47] <mi3> scriptwarlock you use the dev version or the stable ver? which one do you suggest?
[06:48] <scriptwarlock> mi3, i suggest what flash aid suggests
[06:48] <mi3> scriptwarlock: ok
[06:48] <sacarlson> mi3: normaly as far as I know the -dev version just addes the header files need for custom compiling things, should not change performance
[06:49] <mi3> ok, installing it
[06:50] <mi3> [installing the flash aid version :)]
[06:50] <scriptwarlock> mi3, after installing disable all your ff plugins and watch youtube fullscreen or minimal back and forth
[06:50] <scientes> sacarlson, -dev isn't a version
[06:50] <scientes> its just the header files
[06:50] <scientes> however it requires the binary
[06:50] <mi3> scripwarlock, ok g2k
[06:51] <chosig> This is interesting, just updated my Ubuntu to latest with the new interface. So first question is, can I reorder the apps I stickied to the launcher bar?
[06:52] <Fyodorovna> chosig, yep
[06:52] <sacarlson> scientes: no normaly its *-dev  in package names that add header files of that package
[06:52] <chosig> Fyodorovna: How?
[06:52] <scriptwarlock> chosig, if you mean drag up and down the icons?
[06:52] <Fyodorovna> chosig, left click held down drag out then back in where you want them.
[06:53] <chosig> Aah. Magnificent! Thanks
[06:53] <osiris> does anyone have a method for playing embedded flash (like the listen now button on a radio site) in something like vlc or winamp or the like?
[06:53] <scientes> sacarlson, thats what i said
[06:53] <metaspike> osiris, there used to be flash video replacer plugin for firefox which is somewhat unmainted of late
[06:54] <Fyodorovna> flashaid
[06:58] <sacarlson> scientes: oh as I didn't read the message you typed 7 secounds after you posted with my name attached I didn't read it till later.  you should have posted as one line instead of 3 or added msg name to each that signals it was to me
[06:59] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, lag problem?
[06:59] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: maybe
[07:01] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: it's also hard to read at the same time as you write
[07:02] <scriptwarlock> sacarlson, you reboot sometimes? it helps the machine to freshen up :)
[07:02] <ooooooioo> if i mount sshfs with nautilus, where is it mounted to?
[07:03] <mi3> scripwarlock, installed the dev version and disabled the addons now running youtube
[07:04] <scriptwarlock> mi3, no plugins enable?
[07:04] <scriptwarlock> *enabled
[07:04] <mi3> no
[07:04] <mi3> i mean except flash aid
[07:06] <mi3> nice, did not hang this time
[07:06] <scriptwarlock> mi3, now put back the plugins 1x1 at the same time testing the flash video
[07:07] <scriptwarlock> mi3, ok were done with flash....
[07:07] <mi3> ok
[07:08] <KI7MT> ooooooioo, You can mount it wherever you want, example /mnt/data /mnt/backup etc etc.. but create the directories first before mounting
[07:08] <scriptwarlock> mi3, if it crashes with the plugins enabled you know whos to blame.
[07:09] <sacarlson> ooooooioo: I see my mount with nautilus mount this gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/sacarlson/.gvfs  when sshfs is used as seen from $mount
[07:09] <mi3> yeah, adobe llc hahahaha
[07:09] <kion> anyone knows when the new version is comming out?
[07:09] <ooooooioo> sacarlson: thanks
[07:10] <scriptwarlock> kion, version of what?
[07:10] <CFHowlett> kion   04/2012 = 12.04
[07:10] <Flannel> kion: Last Thursday in April
[07:11] <mi3> jeez it crashes when i activate adblock plus extension
[07:11] <KI7MT> ooooooioo, I use this one among others: sshfs -o idmap=user username@<IP_ADDRESS>:/remote/data /mnt/local/data
[07:12] <ooooooioo> KI7MT: thanks, I know how to mount it from terminal. but I didn't know where nautilus mounts it to.
[07:12] <KI7MT> I create the local mount point as mkdir /mnt/local/data before sending the sshfs string.
[07:12] <sacarlson> KI7MT: nautilus must do something like that for you
[07:13] <KI7MT> Nautilus isn't mounting it, you are with the sshfs sting, its just a matter of wehre you want to mount the remote data, that's up to you.
[07:13] <kion> thanks! yes I meant New Ubuntu
[07:13] <sacarlson> KI7MT: as the mount command shows it appears that nautilus did mount it and I can cut copy and paist to it
[07:14] <sacarlson> KI7MT: only diff I guess is that it's a gui method
[07:14]  * scriptwarlock thinks sacarlson has esp
[07:15] <KI7MT> sacarlson, yes, I actually use that command string in a Launcher on the desktop. Works both ways.
[07:15] <mi3> hahahaha
[07:16] <Sixmsj> tried to install the latest ubuntu, it keeps hanging and giving me the circle of doom after i click continue
[07:16] <mi3> scriptwarlock, i activated all the add ons lets see what happens
[07:16] <Sixmsj> any help =P
[07:16] <nene> hi
[07:16] <mi3> ohh it hangs
[07:16] <CFHowlett> nene   greetings
[07:16] <Blue1> Sixmsj: is that ubuntu 12.04 beta, or?
[07:16] <nene> im new
[07:16] <Sixmsj> yeah
[07:16] <nene> :$
[07:16] <mi3> Hi!!
[07:17] <Sixmsj> it's happened before with other ubuntus though
[07:17] <Blue1> Sixmsj: sorry haven't tried that yet
[07:17] <CFHowlett> !ubuntu|nene
[07:17] <Sixmsj> what a helpless position to be in
[07:17] <Sixmsj> im on 10.04 right now, was just trying to fresh install the beta
[07:18] <scriptwarlock> Sixmsj, you have video card attached?
[07:18] <Blue1> Sixmsj: you are in a better position then I.  I am on 10.10 and that reaches eol next month.
[07:18] <mi3> scriptwarlock a [stupid] msg from dear adobe and ff [The adobe flash plugin has crashed blablabla]
[07:18] <sacarlson> Sixmsj: maybe you failed to select a root partition?  I've made that mistake before
[07:18] <CFHowlett> Sixmsj    suggestion: keep 10.04.  Install beta to virtual box - unless you ENJOY suffering?
[07:18] <Sixmsj> i believe so scriptwarlock
[07:18] <Blue1> what CFHowlett said.
[07:18] <scriptwarlock> hahaha lol
[07:18] <Sixmsj> should i have to sacarlson ?
[07:18] <Sixmsj> you guys have used 12.04?
[07:19] <nene> someone speak spanish?
[07:19] <mi3> any suggestions scriptwarlock
[07:19] <Sixmsj> it's really the latest clang that i want and unity is looking better and better
[07:19] <mi3> ?
[07:19] <Blue1> !es | nene
[07:19] <CFHowlett> Sixmsj   it's BETA = expect funky behavior
[07:19] <Sixmsj> ubuntu's 10.04 clang doesnt have c++ support
[07:19] <sacarlson> Sixmsj: if none of the partitions are unpartitioned then it can't guess what to use as the install point for root,  you have to select one
[07:19] <KI7MT> 10.04 is pretty robust now, and will have a clean upgrade path to 12.04, but I'd wait until 12.04.1 before upgrading fully.
[07:19] <mi3> umm scriptwarlock?
[07:20] <CFHowlett> KI7MT   I'm inclined to agree
[07:20] <scriptwarlock> mi3, yes?
[07:20] <Blue1> not sure if I like the hud in it.  and unity still is buggy
[07:20] <MrHarptastic> hey guys
[07:20] <CFHowlett> MrHarptastic   greetings
[07:20] <mi3> scriptwarlock, it crashes[for good]
[07:20] <scriptwarlock> mi3, you can report the matter to ff by pressing the help>report a problem
[07:21] <mi3> scriptwarlock,wait let me try 2 to 3 addons at a time
[07:21] <Sixmsj> 10.04 is really nice right now, i probably wouldn't consider if i could compile clang correctly :[
[07:21] <MrHarptastic> Can someone experienced with C++, point me in the right direction for a compiler. I use VS for windows and would like to know what my best choices where. I'm not looking for the "best". just an option.
[07:22] <mi3> nope it crashes again[not ff, but the flash plugin]
[07:22] <sacarlson> Sixmsj: I'm still running 10.04,  I prefer it to unity, not sure what I will do when support ends in about 18 months
[07:22] <scriptwarlock> mi3, then dont use the plugin
[07:22] <Fyodorovna> mi3, you have synaptic installed?
[07:22] <MrHarptastic> ^^ and by that I obviously mean a C++ compiler for linux.
[07:23] <mi3> is html5 on youtube still in beta/alpha or is it stable?
[07:23] <Sixmsj> 10.04 is a dream
[07:23] <mi3> Fyodorovna, yes I do.
[07:23] <Fyodorovna> mi3, try removing the flash installer.
[07:24] <mi3> but I need flash Fyodorovna can you provide me the link to an earlier version?
[07:24] <sacarlson> Sixmsj: and I see clang support in lucid 10.04, why do you need to compile it? http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/clang
[07:25] <mi3> I tried the stable version as well as dev  version, still it crashes, you have some thoughts about this Fyodorovna?
[07:25] <Fyodorovna> mi3, it is just the instaler it leaves flash in place.
[07:25] <Sixmsj> it doesn't include c++ support so i assume it's an outdated one
[07:26] <Sixmsj> do you guys know how to change focus follow mouse delay speed in 10.04?
[07:26] <KI7MT> MrHarptastic, by VS do you mean Visual Studio or something? C++, gcc, g77 etc are all standard on most all Linux builds.
[07:26] <Sixmsj> it's changing too fast, rendering my global menu applet pretty useless
[07:26] <scriptwarlock> mi3, let me have the video link you watching
[07:27] <mi3> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4nMEoYIchU&feature=relmfu scriptwarlock
[07:28] <Fyodorovna> mi3, the flashaid FF plugin used to remove the installer I just removed it and lost flash buty I'm trying the plugin now.
[07:29] <Fyodorovna> but*
[07:29] <mi3> see u guys later have 2 go, sorry 4 going in the middle of the conversation hope 2 see you around ok BYE!
[07:30] <mi3> sorry, have to go, i myself dont like that, but have 2 go :)
[07:30] <MrHarptastic> KI7mt, yes Visual Studio is what I use on windows. I was looking for something that was about as reliable. I know you guys don't like the word "best" so i was trying to angle at what you guys would point to if it were your choice.
[07:31] <mikodo> Sixmsj, System - Preferences - Windows.... give that a try
[07:31] <KI7MT> MrHarptastic, well there not allot to choose from I'm affraid, Mono-Develop and Eclipse are a couple you may want to look into.
[07:32] <MrHarptastic> Will do. I'll google those now.
[07:32] <Sixmsj> mikodo, that's just for ffm itself, it doesn't control the delay sadly
[07:32] <MrHarptastic> thank you
[07:32] <scriptwarlock> heehe flash is flawless on minitube
[07:33] <KI7MT> MrHarptastic, CMake, Codeblocks are a couple more that ring a bell, and one called KDevelop but I've not used any of three.
[07:36] <Rurd2di> hey
[07:36] <Rurd2di> any command to get a memory usage printout in gb's
[07:37] <Rurd2di> cheers
[07:37] <KI7MT> free -g
[07:37] <Halexander9000> Hello gentlehumans! Erm, Don't know how, don't know why, but after an update, firefox will only use gnash for all flash aplications. Which is terribly lagging on my ASUS EEE PC 904HD netbook. How do I make it switch back to adobe's flash plugin?
[07:38] <penyulap> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP:]
[07:38] <penyulap> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: ]
[07:38] <Rurd2di> penyulap: pastebin
[07:38] <penyulap> anyone know what is going on ? there are a lot of these, i expect it's common
[07:38] <Rurd2di> dont spam
[07:38] <penyulap> sorry

[07:38] <Rurd2di> its also hard to read on text based linux clients
[07:38] <Rurd2di> partly the reason
[07:39] <pfifo> MrHarptastic, all of those are IDE's when it comes down to it, youll be using g++ as a compiler, the development cycle in linux is completly different from MSVC, you should look into autotools after you have a suitable text editor
[07:39] <Rurd2di> easy on everybody
[07:39] <penyulap> I actually get a lot of them, can't update, but just wanted to post an example, but I pressed return by accident before typing my request <argh>
[07:40] <penyulap> text based linux clients, I think that's cool, reminds me of the BBS days. I had blond friends back then, it was so cool. Microbees. <sigh>
[07:40] <sacarlson> penyulap: try sudo apt-get update; ?
[07:40] <Halexander9000> Hello?
[07:41] <penyulap> soory blind not blonde
[07:41] <dwade09> ok i instaleld ubuntu 11.10 32bit from wubi.exe inside my windows side, how do i read / write to my windows desktop?
[07:42] <penyulap> My blind friends had speech synthesisers. They spoke faster than I could keep up with, my, I am living in the past
[07:42] <KI7MT> yeah 300 baud modems & tape drives, man how things change in a hurry
[07:42] <sacarlson> penyulap: maybe try another host repository in synaptic
[07:42] <Halexander9000> I still want my flying car...
[07:42] <penyulap> I know, it's so fast ! every time you work out how to use a site like gmail or something, they darn well change it on you
[07:43] <james_> anyone know much about deluge?
[07:43] <Halexander9000> Speaking of changes, after an update, firefox will only use gnash for all flash aplications. Which is terribly lagging on my ASUS EEE PC 904HD netbook. How do I make it switch back to adobe's flash plugin?
[07:43] <james_> just wondering if i can resume a uTorrent download (from my windows machine) on ubuntu with deluge..
[07:43] <rymate1234> Halexander9000, uninstal gnash?
[07:44] <Halexander9000> james_: Don't think so.
[07:44] <penyulap> wow, i got it testing to find the best server. Lol, this thing is smarter than I am
[07:44] <dwade09> ok i instaleld ubuntu 11.10 32bit from wubi.exe inside my windows side, how do i read / write to my windows desktop?
[07:44] <penyulap> sacarlson, will this auto testing thing do that ?
[07:45] <sacarlson> penyulap: yes I think that will find the fastist host repository for you
[07:45] <Halexander9000> rymate1234: How did I end up with it? Maybe it's important. Isn't there a much more delicate/elegant way to switch from one plugin to another without brutally murdering the offending piece of software?
[07:45] <root_> what?
[07:46] <Halexander9000> rymate1234?
[07:46] <dwade09> can someone please help me?
[07:46] <Halexander9000> dwade09: State your problem.
[07:46] <KI7MT> !ask | dwade09
[07:46] <dwade09> Halexander9000:  i have
[07:46] <dwade09> twice
[07:47] <rogst> KI7MT: he did ask
[07:47] <Halexander9000> [ O _o] My oh my, am I blind.
[07:47] <KI7MT> Me too0
[07:47] <sacarlson> dwade09: maybe you mean how can I read write files to and from the windows partition?  oh and it's wubi so I'm not sure you can mount windows partitions
[07:48] <KI7MT> sri dwade09 had my window closed down and didn't see your previous post.
[07:48] <rogst> dwade09: I never used wubi, but don´t your windows device show up in the file manager?
[07:48]  * Halexander9000 googles wubi...
[07:48] <penyulap> well, it's found the fastest way to notify me of it's failures now. It fails to fetch /mirror.optus.net/ubuntu/dists/karmic-security/restricted/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 211. and many others a lot quicker now. Hmm, it's an improvement, but a very small one :)
[07:48] <james_> Halexander9000: a forum post says it is possible :O going to try now
[07:48] <dwade09> rogst:  it shows a /media/system reserved mounted.
[07:48] <Halexander9000> Guys! Gals! Please! Don't know how, don't know why, but after an update, firefox will only use gnash for all flash aplications. Which is terribly lagging on my ASUS EEE PC 904HD netbook. How do I make it switch back to adobe's flash plugin?
[07:49] <Halexander9000> james_: Good luck then!
[07:49] <sacarlson> penyulap: you sure you have internet access ?  can you see anything on a browser of the outside world like google.com?
[07:49] <penyulap> hmmm,
[07:49] <penyulap> :D
[07:49] <rogst> dwade09: I think that is your 100mb windows boot partition
[07:50] <dwade09> rogst:  yes.
[07:50] <penyulap> I promise I have some kind of internet access. It's just that ubuntu for some reason is pretending to be windoze in this update regard
[07:50] <penyulap> :D
[07:50] <Halexander9000> sacarlson: We're all just a figment of ones imagination. penyulap doesn't need an internet connection for us to exist as 2d intelligent text entities.
[07:50] <penyulap> everything else works fine, except I cannot update or install new software. I can browse and download just fine
[07:51] <dwade09> rogst:  that is the only one mounted, i had no choice but to install ubuntu with wubi inside my windows on my laptop.
[07:51] <penyulap> and IRC works too. I am on the computer in question at the moment
[07:51] <rogst> dwade09: if you run sudo fdisk -l can you see your windows partiton?
[07:51] <sacarlson> Halexander9000: I can't presume that he used the same computer system to access irc as he is working on his new ubuntu system
[07:51] <Halexander9000> sacarlson: Bet ya' she's a she.
[07:52] <penyulap> it's karmic 9,10 kernel 2.6.31-23-generic
[07:52] <dwade09> rogst:  http://pastebin.com/5heCbmeD
[07:52] <penyulap> it is true, I could be using another computer, that is why i was quick to point out when i realized too. It's not automatic
[07:52] <penyulap> :D
[07:53] <sacarlson> penyulap: maybe manualy just select japan as a host,  did you manualy modify apt-get list file?
[07:53] <Halexander9000> penyulap: I take pride in predending to have psychic powers.
[07:53] <penyulap> I'm just Like NEO, I can login automatically. actually, I think Ubuntu will get to that level first.
[07:54] <Halexander9000> pretending*
[07:54] <rogst> dwade09: create a folder to mount to and run sudo mount /dev/sda2 myWinFolder
[07:54] <sacarlson> Halexander9000: ya if I had a brain I should have noticed that with the blond statements made above, but I didn't so shoot me
[07:54] <dwade09> rogst:  i creat it in the windows side?
[07:54] <rogst> dwade09: no in ubuntu
[07:55] <penyulap> I just used the selecting ftp:jaist.ac.jp from software sources tool in admin
[07:55] <Halexander9000> sacarlson: Actually, the blond statement was irrelevant. She was correcting herself.
[07:55] <dwade09> rogst: sudo mount /dev/sda2 mywinfolder Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened. The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
[07:55] <Halexander9000> penyulap: Are we talking Keanu Reaves Neo?
[07:56] <penyulap> it's failing,
[07:56] <penyulap> There is no other NEO that I know of, once you seen matrix, I guess he has pretty big shoes to fill
[07:56] <rogst> dwade09: :) thought that  would happen, ubuntu is has allready mounted it
[07:57] <dwade09> rogst:  how can i access the stuff on the desktop?
[07:57] <rogst> dwade09: dont know if there is a special way of accessing it from a wubi install since I never used wubi
[07:58] <dwade09> to bad there isnt a wubi chan
[07:58] <penyulap> how would I  manualy modify apt-get list file?
[07:58] <penyulap> or check it
[07:58] <rogst> dwade09: have you googled for it?
[07:58] <Halexander9000> penyulap: Hold on.
[07:59] <penyulap> ok
[07:59] <dwade09> rogst:  yes but i dont understand it all
[08:00] <KI7MT> dwade09, Im not a Wubi guru either but you could ask in the Ubuntu Forums, as allot of developers hang out there and Im sure they could answer you questions about Wubi
[08:00] <dwade09> KI7MT:  thanks never thought of that,
[08:01] <Halexander9000> penyulap: It'll take a while, checking my chat logs so I can remember how to do it.
[08:01] <dwade09> KI7MT:  under ubuntu forums or ubuntu ask?
[08:01] <penyulap> is it easier to use a private room ? so there is not as many entry/exit messages ? or can i turn off entry exit messages ?
[08:01] <penyulap> oh cool ! thank you
[08:01] <rogst> dwade09: you windows partion is mounted on /host
[08:01] <KI7MT> dwade09, There's a ton of sub forums, surely there's a Wubi forum, if not choose general Support / Quesitons.
[08:01] <rogst> open file manager and go to filesystem and /host
[08:03] <dwade09> rogst:  thanks i am making a short cut to my dekstop with it.
[08:03] <dwade09> rogst:  i will try to read/write to it in wubi
[08:03] <hexacode> are there any gurus in here who knows wat this output means? im trying to see if i installed the graphics card correctly http://pastebin.com/gcwKSasT
[08:05] <sacarlson> hexacode: I'm not sure but from this line   Kernel modules: nouveau, nvidiafb  I guess your not running the propriatary version of nvidea driver
[08:05] <mikodo> Halexander9000, Would it have to do with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1929659
[08:05] <dwade09> rogst:  it works, tanks.
[08:05] <dwade09> thanks rogst
[08:05] <KI7MT> hexacode, Look like the Nouveau module and your frame buffers are setup for nvidia, so it looks like it's ok.
[08:05] <Halexander9000> mikodo: I'm checking it right now.
[08:06] <dwade09> KI7MT:  rogs said my windows folder is already there in my /host
[08:06] <rogst> dwade09: your welcome
[08:06] <KI7MT> dwade09, ok. I really dont know much about how Wubi works, I used it once fer abt 10 minutes, and that's it.
[08:06] <hexacode> thanks guys...sacarlson i downloaded the driver from nvidia? how is it not proprietary?
[08:07] <sacarlson> hexacode: maybe it's not activated yet?
[08:07] <dwade09> KI7MT:  well if someone else needs help with it later on you know the answer as do i thanks to rogst
[08:07] <drounse> can someone help me mount my eee pad?
[08:08] <sacarlson> drounse: what's an eee pad?
[08:08] <drounse> the asus transformer eee pad
[08:09] <mikodo> Halexander9000, Adobe Flash is going eventually break on FF. When a new version comes out, they won't provide it for FF, and won't provide back-wards compatibility. Not sure, if this is your issue though.
[08:10] <Halexander9000> mikodo: What? Why?
[08:11] <Halexander9000> mikodo: By God... it is the end of the world!
[08:12] <KI7MT> Naaa HTML5 is here to dave the day on flash :-)
[08:12] <penyulap> froze
[08:12] <KI7MT> .. save ... :-)
[08:12] <mikodo> Halexander9000, Google is taking over providing the flash for browsers, and will not be providing it for FF, unless FF uses a  new plugin API called ‘Pepper‘.
[08:14] <KI7MT> I'm glade I use Chromium :-)
[08:14] <penyulap> Halexander9000 can you see me
[08:14] <penyulap> I can see what you type in private
[08:15] <mikodo> Halexander9000, It basically boils down to Google, wanting people to use Chrome... not sure if Chromium will be supported either. My guess, FF will implement something for Adobe Flash before Chromium
[08:15] <dwade09> hey rogst  here is an issue from my windows side, the folder and document i made as a test is not showing up on my desktop side in windows.
[08:19] <dwade09> hey rogst  here is an issue from my windows side, the folder and document i made as a test is not showing up on my desktop side in windows.
[08:19] <zaggynl> Hrm
[08:22] <mikodo> KI7MT, HTML5 should get more momentum with this development, I hope
[08:22] <rogst> dwade09: could you see your other windows files in /host?
[08:23] <dwade09> rogst:  yes
[08:23] <dwade09> rogst:  i seen everything on the desktop in the wubi
[08:24] <rogst> dwade09: did you check in C:\Ubuntu\disks?
[08:25] <dwade09> rogst:  just boot in there
[08:25] <dwade09> rogst:  boot and root and swap
[08:25] <Kaltiz> Hi I need help setting up my Radeon 5650 to work.
[08:27] <rogst> dwade09: you cant access root from there?
[08:28] <dwade09> rogst:  its like a file its root.disk
[08:29] <Kaltiz> How do I change dir to the fle system?
[08:30] <auronandace> Kaltiz: cd /where/you/want/to/go
[08:30] <Kaltiz> Hmm
[08:31] <Kaltiz> When I open the terminal
[08:31] <Kaltiz> I am in the home section
[08:31] <Kaltiz> Not the file system area
[08:31] <Kaltiz> the Home section appears to be the lowest area I can go
[08:31] <auronandace> Kaltiz: yes, that is default, /home/username/
[08:32] <auronandace> Kaltiz: where do you want to go?
[08:32] <Kaltiz> Ah
[08:32] <drounse> how do i register my nickname
[08:32] <Kaltiz> Never mind :P
[08:32] <rogst> dwade09: ah, then you need to install a program that can read ext partitions in windows http://ext2read.blogspot.com/
[08:32] <auronandace> !register | drounse
[08:32] <dwade09> but rogst  i created it in the /host/user/desktop
[08:32] <Kaltiz> ln: failed to create symbolic link `/usr/lib64': Permission denied
[08:33] <rogst> dwade09: ok
[08:33] <auronandace> Kaltiz: use sudo to write there, not sure why you want a symlink there though
[08:33] <Kaltiz> Well
[08:34] <zykes-_> shouldn't this work to get mysql packages not to prompt for password ? http://pastebin.com/jKu7Urrm
[08:34] <Kaltiz> When I am trying to make my gpu work
[08:34] <Kaltiz> PowerXpress error: Cannot stat '/usr/lib64/fglrx': No such file or directory
[08:34] <Kaltiz> I get that
[08:35] <dwade09> rogst:  il figure it out tomorrow right now im off to bed, thank you again so much for all your help
[08:36] <Kaltiz> God dammit my catalyst still isn't finding the device :/
[08:42] <zykes-_> anyone here that knows ?
[08:43] <helloman2012> hello
[08:44] <Kaltiz> ):
[08:45] <dr_willis> hmm
[08:45] <auronandace> Kaltiz: how are you installing the driver?
[08:45] <Kaltiz> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide
[08:46] <Kaltiz> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Installing_Catalyst_Manually_.28from_AMD.2FATI.27s_site.29 that is a better link
[08:46] <Kaltiz> May have gotten it working now :L
[08:47] <Kaltiz> Knowing my luck, I'll run into another error
[08:47] <auronandace> Kaltiz: did you try the drivers from ubuntu repo first?
[08:47] <Kaltiz> Yes
[08:47] <Kaltiz> Well I am not sure
[08:48] <Kaltiz> Where do I find them?
[08:48] <auronandace> Kaltiz: there is an additional drivers dialog that offers it
[08:48] <auronandace> Kaltiz: jockey-gtk
[08:48] <Kaltiz> It never was able to finish installing the post -release
[08:48] <Kaltiz> It would always freeze up
[08:49] <auronandace> Kaltiz: i hope the manual method has worked for you then
[08:49] <Kaltiz> Maybe
[08:49] <Kaltiz> Stuck in Unity 2D atm :L
[08:51] <dr_willis> for my ati box i folowed some guide i fiund at the askubuntu.com site.  showed how to make a deb of the latest version
[08:51] <dr_willis> i might have it bookmarked ah  delicious.com/dr_willis
[08:55] <reenignEesreveR> i have quite a powerful machine on which i'd like to run multiple VMs ... whats the best stack option i have?
[08:56] <wuwoot> anybody encounter the issue of all the windows collapsing into the first workspace when alt + tabbing? anybody know of a fix?
[08:56] <drounse> how do i join the android channels?
[08:57] <auronandace> drounse: register your nick?
[08:57] <drounse> i cant figure out how to:/
[08:57] <auronandace> !register | drounse
[08:57] <reenignEesreveR> auronandace, /msg nickserv help
[08:58] <auronandace> drounse: better to ask in #freenode
[09:00] <ubuntu> elo
[09:00] <ubuntu> hi
[09:01] <ace> hello guys, do you know if anywhere we can still found the 9.10 source list for apt?
[09:01] <auronandace> !eol | ace
[09:01] <ace> auronandace: i know it s EOL
[09:01] <Kaltiz> Well
[09:01] <Kaltiz> That went terribly
[09:01] <ace> but i wonder if somewhere we can keep it
[09:02] <ace> it s an old server and i just need one package
[09:02] <ace> and not enough time for a whole reinstall
[09:02] <auronandace> ace: why aren't you using something supported?
[09:02] <ace> auronandace: it was not EOL when it was installed 2 years ago
[09:02] <geirha> ace: See the EOLUpgrades page
[09:02] <auronandace> ace: ubottu just gave you a lovely link on how to upgrade too
[09:03] <ace> ok you don't read
[09:03] <ace> thank you anyway
[09:03] <qweqe3> barabashi
[09:03] <geirha> ace: *sigh*, just read the page. It explains where you can get the latest packages for your eol release.
[09:04] <dr_willis> no one ever wants to read. ;)
[09:04] <ace> geirha: indeed
[09:05] <dr_willis> eol stuff is all moved to some archive.ubuntu.com server i recall
[09:05] <ace> i read "upgrade" so i thought it was to upgrade
[09:05] <ace> thank you very much
[09:05] <sergiu> is there any channel for chrome browser support
[09:05] <ace> and sorry for my bad reading
[09:06] <auronandace> !alis | sergiu
[09:06] <Kaltiz> auronandace Do you know anything about installing the ones from jockey?
[09:07] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!!!
[09:07] <auronandace> Kaltiz: i use nvidia rather than ati/amd but the process is the same
[09:08] <Kaltiz> I got this bug :l
[09:08] <Kaltiz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/804662
[09:08] <auronandace> Kaltiz: its very straightforward
[09:08] <auronandace> Kaltiz: oh
[09:08] <Kaltiz> Not very straight forward :(
[09:08] <ponrajuganesh> whether is there any command that could get the count of recently created files in the directory
[09:09] <ace> auronandace: thx thx thx
[09:09] <auronandace> Kaltiz: its meant to be straightforward :) i've never run into bugs (again i use nvidia rather than ati/amd, not sure if that makes a difference to jockey bugs)
[09:09] <dr_willis> ls and wc   ;)
[09:09] <auronandace> ace: no worries :)
[09:10] <drounse> wow people on android-dev are a*******
[09:11] <ponrajuganesh> In a directory I need to find the most recenlty created files, pls could anyone say is there any command there
[09:12] <drounse> does anyone here have any android experience?
[09:12] <dr_willis> thats a big topic
[09:13] <auronandace> drounse: if its not ubuntu related then we can't help
[09:13] <drounse> dr_willis i just need to know how to update with no sd card
[09:13] <drounse> auronandace you still could help if you knew ;)
[09:14] <dr_willis> theres #android
[09:14] <hello2012> hello
[09:14] <auronandace> drounse: not in this channel (and i don't know, i don't own a smartphone)
[09:14] <hello2012><PHONE_NUMBER>
[09:15] <Kaltiz> God dammit ubuntu hates me :/
[09:15] <MagePsycho> is there a way to downgrade PHP 5.3 to 5.2 ? i have full root access
[09:15] <auronandace> !language | Kaltiz
[09:15] <drounse> dr_willis everyone in those android channels are a*******
[09:15] <bambanx> wassup
[09:15] <dr_willis> !pin
[09:16] <auronandace> drounse: that doesn't make this android support
[09:16] <xrfang> hi, I have a local repository (setup by IT using apt-proxy).  When I do an apt-get upgrade, it reports a lot of 404 error, after checking, I found that apt-get try to fetch software versions NOT available on the repo server, I don't know where it get these version info, and how can I erase "memory" of apt-get client, and let it sync with server?
[09:16] <bambanx> guys i installed gnome on my ubuntu 11.10 and works well but i cannot add launcher and i dont have the button for show desktop , what i can do?
[09:17] <hiexpo> hola
[09:17] <drounse> auronandace i know i like this channel
[09:17] <dr_willis> add launcher in gnome shell?
[09:18] <satish> whats the command to join to ubuntu india channel
[09:18] <hiexpo> hi ya dr_willis
[09:18] <auronandace> !india | satish
[09:18] <satish> how to join
[09:18] <Kaltiz> Can anyone help me with installing my ATI Radeon gpu?
[09:19] <auronandace> satish: /join #ubuntu-in
[09:19] <satish> thank you Guys
[09:19] <GodMitax> hello can anybody help me with installing amd driver on 10.04 with kernel 3.2.6
[09:20] <Teche> Hello...
[09:20] <Teche> I've got a simple question hope someone can help me...
[09:21] <Teche> i've just downloaded 12.04 and trying to install on my presario but get a message that the CPU is not supported
[09:21] <xrfang> hi, I get 404 error while using apt-get (ubuntu 10.04 server), any hint please?
[09:21] <Teche> is centrino not supported on 12.04
[09:21] <bambanx> guys i installed gnome on my ubuntu 11.10 and works well but i cannot add launcher and i dont have the button for show desktop , what i can do?
[09:22] <MagePsycho> is there a way to downgrade PHP 5.3 to 5.2 ? i have full root access
[09:22] <GodMitax> hello can anybody help me with installing amd driver on 10.04 with kernel 3.2.6
[09:22] <bambanx> you can use both MagePsycho
[09:22] <MagePsycho> bambanx
[09:23] <MagePsycho> i am using magento 1.3 and it only works in 5.2
[09:23] <MagePsycho> so
[09:23] <bambanx> use prestashop!!!!
[09:23] <Teche> trying again, is centrino supported on 12.04 beta 1...anyone?
[09:24] <Teche> atleast anyone know where I can find a HAL?
[09:24] <dr_willis> should be
[09:24] <dr_willis> !hal
[09:25] <ome> Does anyone else has problem with Forward search as well ?
[09:25] <Teche> thanks....will look into that.appreciate it.
[09:30] <bennyp> Hi there. I want to run Ubuntu on a netbook (with no hdd) off of a USB key. I.e. the system's entire storage will be the USB key. can someone please point me in the right direction?
[09:30] <Halexander9000> I am in the process of being deprecated? Oh maaaaaan...
[09:31] <gvo> Halexander9000: Always knew it might happen...;)
[09:31] <Kaltiz> Hey
[09:31] <Kaltiz> How do I remove a symbolic link/
[09:31] <Guest22325> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[09:31] <Halexander9000> GVo: But I've just begun to live!
[09:32] <Guest22325> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+I+remove+symbolic+link
[09:32] <bennyp> thanks Guest22325
[09:32] <gvo> bennyp: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[09:32] <gvo> Too
[09:33] <gvo> Halexander9000: But remember deprecated only means we need to ignore you.  ;)
[09:33] <gvo> Halexander9000: Worry when they suggest you be removed.
[09:34] <Halexander9000> gvo: [ T n T]
[09:34] <dr_willis> bennyp:  you can do a normal full install to a large enough flash drive
[09:35] <bennyp> dr_willis: can i install from that same pen drive?
[09:35] <bennyp> dr_willis: i.e. boot the liveiso from the drive, then install onto that same drive?
[09:35] <dr_willis> easier to use 2 pendrives in that case
[09:36] <ponrajuganesh> Greetings!!!!!
[09:37] <ponrajuganesh> whether could we notify when a new file is created in a folder
[09:37] <bambanx> ponrajuganesh, hey ! ! ! ! ! ! !
[09:37] <dr_willis> !info fam
[09:37] <dr_willis> fam can do that i belive
[09:39] <Halexander9000> ubottu is the best pony.
[09:39] <Flynsarmy> i'm trying to dpkg -i sudo dpkg -i gcc-3.4-base_3.4.6-8ubuntu2_amd64.deb but getting gcc-3.4-base: 3.4.6-8ubuntu2 (Multi-Arch: no) is not co-installable with gcc-3.4-base:i386 3.4.6-6ubuntu3 (Multi-Arch: no) which is currently installed - i've tried dpkg -r sudo dpkg -r gcc-3.4-base but it says its not installed
[09:40] <Brontolo> Buongiorno
[09:40] <Halexander9000> Brontolo: La donna e mobile!
[09:41] <miha> how can i get some more standard java plugin for browser? iced tea crashes all the time?
[09:41] <miha> can't i use openjdk or sun one?
[09:41] <nick> Hello
[09:42] <gvo> Flynsarmy: Are you running on a 64 bit kernel?
[09:43] <airco>  Hi. When running linux on vmBOX through windows, my networkcard isn't recognized. How and why?
[09:43] <Flynsarmy> gvo yes. uname -a 3.0.0-16-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 27 17:44:39 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:44] <Flynsarmy> gvo just trying to figure out how to remove the i386 packages i stupidly installed so i can get the 64bit equivalents installed
[09:44] <gvo> dpkg -l | grep gcc and see what's installed.
[09:45] <Flynsarmy> gvo aha, perfect. thanks
[09:45] <gvo> Or run synaptic and delete
[09:46] <Flynsarmy> i tried searching for gcc-3.4 in synaptic and it didn't show anythining. dpkg -l worked though
[09:46] <wam> the next hop in a routing which is a ubuntu lucid, is sending me icmp reset now and then. I'm looking for things that could cause this. I think, iptables shouldn't send icmp resets. Is there anything in the kernel that does this? Any hints welcome. I just don't know where to start looking.
[09:46] <gvo> shorten the search in synaptic to g\
[09:46] <gvo> gcc
[09:47] <gvo> Darned backspace key is too close to the enter key.
[09:51] <upset> I tried to upgrade to Precise Pangolin beta 1 and the installer failed. Then I tried to install to a new partition and that failed. The result is a wonky version of light-gdm that responds to nothing. What should I do?
[09:52] <bambanx> guys i installed gnome on my ubuntu 11.10 and works well but i cannot add launcher and i dont have the button for show desktop , what i can do?
[09:52] <Flynsarmy> any idea why, when compiling i'd be getting /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s
[09:53] <sergiu> ) bambanx: stick with the new unity
[09:53] <upset> PLease help.
[09:54] <ArizonaBAY__> shout cast broadcasting softwarE?
[09:54] <ndkelly> bambanx, Have you installed it over another DE?
[09:55] <ndkelly> upset, You may be better off waiting until it's out of Beta.
[09:55] <ubuntu> hi
[09:55] <Nicekiwi> hey I apt just updated and I get this error when I try to add a repo: http://pastebin.com/9hPzxqmP
[09:55] <ubuntu> ive got a issue
[09:55] <upset> ndkelly: Dude, I get that. But I need to repair my computer.
[09:55] <MagePsycho> is there a way to download php version using .htaccess
[09:56] <Guest22325> sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:56] <upset> ndkelly: I don't know what to do because there isn't any repair utility for Precise as far as I know.
[09:56] <bambanx> ndkelly, unity
[09:56] <ubuntu> when i try to open a file in the my paint program its a image file and it open in the viewer instead of my paint
[09:56] <bambanx> ndkelly, i am using ubuntu 11.10 and i installed gnome but it have  problems
[09:56] <ryannathans> I'm trying to run an application in wine but the application freezes before a gui starts, looking at processes running, compiz is maxed out 100%, what do?
[09:56] <mi3> HI!
[09:56] <ndkelly> bambanx, Uninstall Unity. Or Log out, then log back in with a pure gnome environment.
[09:56] <ubuntu> its ubuntu 11.10
[09:57] <ndkelly> upset, Do you have any important data backed up?
[09:57] <bambanx> ndkelly, i log out i have days with it
[09:57] <mi3> ryannathans, which application?
[09:57] <mi3> ryannathans, which application are you trying to use?
[09:57] <ndkelly> bambanx, I'm not sure what you mean.
[09:57] <ryannathans> mi3: League of Legends
[09:58] <bambanx> ndkelly, in my gnome i cannot create launcher i dont have the button fot show desktop too
[09:58] <upset> ndkelly: I have most of the data backed up, but not my latest artwork and not my classnotes (which are really crucial and irreplaceable)
[09:58] <ryannathans> mi3: i'm following a guide but this isn't supposed to happen
[09:58] <mi3> ok ryannathans how many frames per second are you getting?
[09:58] <bambanx> ndkelly, i cannot delete icons in the panel too :/
[09:58] <ndkelly> upset, Boot from a Live CD. Backup your data/artwork, and then consider a clean install.
[09:58] <ndkelly> bambanx, Are they just greyed out? Or is there an error message.
[09:59] <ryannathans> mi3: err nothing. The application freezes before the gui shows up. I don't even get to the patcher/launcher. Compiz maxes out on cpu usage.
[09:59] <upset> ndkelly: I can't access the data.
[09:59] <drounse> can you stream with sftp?
[09:59] <bambanx> ndkelly, you have teamviewer?
[09:59] <ndkelly> upset, Not even through a Live CD?
[09:59] <ndkelly> bambanx, Not on my netbook no.
[09:59] <upset> ndkelly: It says I don't have permission.
[09:59] <bambanx> ndkelly,  =(
[09:59] <Nicekiwi> hey I apt just updated and I get this error when I try to add a repo: http://pastebin.com/9hPzxqmP
[10:00] <bambanx> ndkelly, if i drag a icon on the top panel , them i cannot delete it if i wanna
[10:00] <ndkelly> upset, You need to access Nautilus (assuming) with root privelages.
[10:01] <upset> ndkelly: How would I even do that on a live drive?
[10:01] <ndkelly> bambanx, When you logged in, did you manually select your environment?
[10:01] <ndkelly> upset, Give me a second, i'm not entirely sure.
[10:01] <bambanx> ndkelly, yes
[10:02] <ndkelly> upset, type this is console 'gksu nautilus'
[10:02] <ndkelly> bambanx, And what did you select/
[10:02] <upset> ndkelly: That will give me root permission even in a live drive?
[10:02] <luxius> hey, where can I get help getting to understand Ubuntu better? This channel or somewhere else?
[10:02] <ndkelly> upset, Should do. Give it a shot.
[10:02] <saju_m> how check whether a file is sparse or no ?
[10:02] <bambanx> ndkelly, gnome without effects
[10:03] <ndkelly> luxius, Is there something in particular you wish to know/
[10:03] <saju_m> i tried #ls -lsh, but can not figure out.
[10:03] <upset> ndkelly: Okay. I'll report back, thank you.
[10:03] <saju_m> have any other way
[10:03] <ndkelly> bambanx, Re-log, and choose 'Gnome'
[10:03] <bennyp> with current methods, am I limited to 4gb of "persistence" space on a usb drive install?
[10:04] <luxius> ndkelly, I have a few specific questions, yes. Yesterday I did 'sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop', updated and upgraded, then 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' - but I don't see any difference, how can I check?
[10:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> luxius, do sudo apt-get purge
[10:04] <luxius> thanks
[10:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> it will remove all ubuntu related stuff you dont need
[10:04] <WhereIsMySpoon> and hopefully leave you with a pure xubuntu setup
[10:04] <ndkelly> luxius, Log out. Then at the bottom of the screen, choose your desktop environment manually.
[10:04] <luxius> lol, hopefully ;)
[10:05] <ome> why I can't pass parameters to the xinit client ?
[10:05] <ndkelly> luxius, I've literally just done the same. Trying out xfce
[10:05] <bambanx> ndkelly, in a few minutes i do , i am installing a plugin on eclipse right now
[10:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> xfce is great, ndkelly
[10:05] <ome> `xinit client param1 param2 param2` all the params are ignored and it's same as `xinit client` ?
[10:05] <ndkelly> WhereIsMySpoon, It's not as pretty as gnome IMO. However it has proved faster on my netbook.
[10:06] <luxius> okay, purge did "nothing" ... I'll pastebin, cause I have another error I would like fixed/explained
[10:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> ndkelly, meh, it may not be as pretty but its a damn sight faster
[10:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> and i dont mind the minimalistic look
[10:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> hm i thought it was purge
[10:06] <mi3> ryan are you there?
[10:06] <ndkelly> WhereIsMySpoon, Now for the great 'looks over functionality' debate with myself!
[10:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> haha
[10:06] <luxius> http://pastebin.com/4mjaG8tZ
[10:07] <Kaltiz> Still having problems with my Radeon 5650 if anyone knows naything ....
[10:07] <luxius> it keeps telling me I should apt-get update to "fix" this duplicate problem.
[10:07] <ndkelly> luxius, Did you run sudo apt-get update ?
[10:07] <luxius> yes
[10:07] <luxius> It keeps re-appearing, that message
[10:08] <ndkelly> It seems you have both the intel and AMD repos added.
[10:08] <luxius> ah, yes
[10:08] <gvo> Is it normal to have both 32 bit and 64 bit repos?
[10:08] <ndkelly> Are you on AMD, or and Intel chip?
[10:08] <luxius> Intel x64
[10:08] <ndkelly> luxius, Then remove the repo.
[10:08] <ndkelly> AMD*
[10:08] <luxius> hang on
[10:08] <luxius> no, it needs to be AMD64 to be 64-bit enabled
[10:08] <gvo> No, the intel is a 32 bit
[10:08] <luxius> exactly, thank you gvo =)
[10:08] <gvo> Don't remove the amd
[10:09] <ndkelly> Ah yes. My fault. Sorry.
[10:09] <ndkelly> Still half asleep.
[10:09] <gvo> me too.
[10:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> luxius, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[10:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> that will get rid of everything ubuntu
[10:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> and leave you with pure xfce
[10:10] <Nicekiwi> hey I apt just updated and I get this error when I try to add a repo: http://pastebin.com/9hPzxqmP
[10:10] <ndkelly> WhereIsMySpoon, How would I place the taskbar at the top instead of the bottom?
[10:10] <luxius> http://pastebin.com/PicCipUk <--- my /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <ndkelly> In xfce.
[10:10] <majd> Hey #ubuntu -  i'm trying to ssh into my server. I'm at a public library and it seems like some ports (including ssh's own port 22) are blocked. What alternatives do i have to accessing my server via ssh?
[10:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> ndkelly, mine was at the top when i moved to xfce
[10:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> so no idea, google it
[10:11] <luxius> WhereIsMySpoon, cool, thanks =)
[10:11] <ndkelly> WhereIsMySpoon, It may be because i still have Gnome installed.
[10:11] <gvo> Nicekiwi: I'd check with the ppa owner.
[10:11] <luxius> but I'm a linux n00b (not computer illiterate, though), so I'm not exactly sure what Ubuntu is. It's more than just a desktop, right?
[10:11] <Nicekiwi> gvo: it does that with all PPA's i try to add
[10:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> ndkelly, sudo apt-get remove gnome-panel
[10:12] <luxius> I mean ... I used to play with debian'
[10:12] <ndkelly> I didn't want to get rid of it, so currently have Gnome 2, xfce and Openbox installed.
[10:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> luxius, Ubuntu is a distribution of linux
[10:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> xubuntu is a customisation of ubuntu
[10:12] <luxius> Hehe, I got that much ;)
[10:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> its smaller and faster
[10:12] <luxius> But what is the difference between debian and ubuntu, is what I'm asking?
[10:12] <ubuntu> ubuntu is a good os if hackers would stop thinking of ways to screwit up
[10:12] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://www.datamation.com/osrc/article.php/3890111/Debian-vs-Ubuntu-Contrasting-Philosophies.htm
[10:13] <WhereIsMySpoon> try to google :)
[10:13] <arith> hello folks, any norwegians here?
[10:13] <Myrtti> !no | arith
[10:13] <ndkelly> luxius, ubuntu is Debian based. And releases much more often. However when Debian does release, it's a little more stable.
[10:13] <gvo> ubuntu: you mean people like the author of Unity?
[10:13] <ndkelly> From what i gather.
[10:13] <ubuntu> not as bad as windows yet but im shure thier working on it
[10:13] <arith> takk
[10:13]  * WhereIsMySpoon shudders at the mention of Unity
[10:13] <gvo> If conical has their way, it'll be worse than windows
[10:14]  * ndkelly isn't a fan of unity either.
[10:14] <luxius> I had a lot of windows crash with unity - not impressed at all
[10:14] <gvo> Of course Gnome 3 developers aren't doing well either.
[10:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> gnome3 isnt much better sadly, at least imo
[10:14] <Myrtti> just a reminder on todays topic, which is Ubuntu support. Discussion about the merits of different operating systems, distributions and desktop environments, please see #ubuntu-offtopic.
[10:14] <ndkelly> upset, How are you getting on?
[10:15] <gvo> Myrtti like unity
[10:15] <gvo> likes
[10:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> gvo, that has nothing to do with it
[10:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> hes just pushing us back on topic :)
[10:15] <gvo> I know.
[10:15] <precubcr> hy please, whre can i get help for backtrack ?
[10:15] <upset> ndkelly: So far, so good. I think this can work.
[10:15] <Pici> precubcr: #backtrack-linux
[10:15] <Myrtti> WhereIsMySpoon: she, actually. Moving on.
[10:15] <upset> ndkelly: You're a lifesaver
[10:16] <ndkelly> upset, Glad i could help.
[10:16] <luxius> so ... without doing the apt-get commands, is there a way to manually correct/inspect conf files to understand how X11 boots? I know there is, but where? =)
[10:16] <ubuntu> i need a anti hack ubuntu bot any ideas
[10:16] <precubcr> thx
[10:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> Sorry Myrtti :)
[10:18] <ndkelly> WhereIsMySpoon, It seems to have combined the top and bottom panels. So i have tasks, and battery/notifications all on the bottom.
[10:18] <ndkelly> Strange.
[10:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> o.o
[10:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> nice
[10:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> ndkelly, do you still have applications/places/system along the top left?
[10:18] <ndkelly> WhereIsMySpoon, No sir.
[10:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> pff i got no idea what's happened :P
[10:19] <ndkelly> I didn't want to remove Gnome so i don't have to reconfigure it all while i'm only trying out new DEs.
[10:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah ok
[10:20] <ndkelly> Going to re-log into Gnome.
[10:21] <wildbat> On 11.10 how do i do a complete reinstall of gnome-desktop? ati-driver break it .....
[10:22] <Culiforge> looking for a starting point for troubleshooting and resolving 'dpkg: error processing koha-common (--configure):
[10:22] <Culiforge>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 255'. Full output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/872380/
[10:23] <hiexpo> Culiforge, you got tha on lucid ?
[10:24] <Culiforge> hiexpo: yes
[10:24] <hiexpo> Culiforge, wow one sec
[10:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> hm, i just got something strange happen when i restarted
[10:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> http://pastie.org/3540106
[10:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> those were the errors that popped up on screen
[10:25] <hiexpo> Culiforge, tryagain ?
[10:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> along with some other information that wasnt error
[10:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> and the machine wouldnt shut down properly
[10:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> had to press power button
[10:25] <Culiforge> hiexpo: try what again?
[10:26] <hiexpo> Culiforge, sudo apt-get update mayveserver wasbroke
[10:27] <Culiforge> hiexpo: nope, same
[10:28] <hiexpo> Culiforge, sorry tab is lite here
[10:28] <hiexpo> Culiforge, do you get an errror on how to fix ?
[10:29] <Culiforge> hiexpo: no, but tried -f install with no luck
[10:29] <Culiforge> hiexpo: remove purge reinstall, no luck either
[10:30] <hiexpo> Culiforge, sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:30] <precubcr> please, any repositoris  for BT 4 R2 that work ? need to download cpyrit and more ...
[10:31] <ndkelly> Does anyone have experience with Cairo-Dock on a netbook?
[10:31] <Culiforge> hiexpo: no sir, same status 255
[10:31] <Pici> Culiforge: koha-common doesn't appear to be in the repositories, it sounds like whomever is providing the package may need to fix this error.
[10:32] <MagePsycho> how to create patch file so that we can apply patch
[10:32] <hiexpo> wow Culiforge i just did and update with 10.04 > something happened with your repos
[10:33] <Culiforge> hiexpo: something.. like evil gnomes? :)
[10:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> xD
[10:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> does anyone have any idea about the problem i posted a bit further above?
[10:35] <Guest79362> Hell everyone, I need some help in determining tape drive utilization, is there any command, tool through which we can determine how much tape (space) has been used on tape drive and how much is still free
[10:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> what on earth is a tape drive
[10:35] <angel282> Hello, Does anyone know how I can install zend optimizer on ubuntu 10.04 with php 5.3? (cant get it to work)
[10:36] <Guest79362> I just want to determine Free Space on Tape
[10:37] <ndkelly> Is there any news on how well 12.04 will perform on a 1.6GHz Atom netbook?
[10:39] <fairuz> Is it normal that just after rebooting, I just have 1.1Gb free memory out of 2GB? What takes so much memory? Thanks
[10:40] <ndkelly> fairuz, Are you using unity?
[10:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> fairuz, you can see processes running by doing ps -eax
[10:40] <fairuz> Ubuntu 11.04. Gnome classic.
[10:42] <fairuz> WhereIsMySpoon: I have something like 220 processes right now
[10:43] <WhereIsMySpoon> fairuz, look at the top 10 then
[10:44] <psyclone18723986> I am having problems with video playback in 11.10
[10:45] <ndkelly> psyclone18723986, what hardware are you running, and what seems to be the issue?
[10:46] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : I am not sure what the hardware is can't i run a grep command>
[10:47] <ndkelly> psyclone18723986, Alright, is it a netbook/laptop/desktop for starters/
[10:48] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : it is a desktop
[10:48] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : a dell
[10:49] <ndkelly> psyclone18723986, What are the issues you're facing? Is it streaming online video? Or local content.
[10:49] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : both streaming and local is as if the frames are skipping or something its not playing smoothly
[10:50] <luxius> yay, I started up on xubuntu, changed desktop @ login screen as suggested - this desktop rocks!
[10:50] <luxius> But now I can't access my home dir
[10:50] <ndkelly> psyclone18723986, Sounds like a driver/codec issue to me. Have you updated your graphics drivers recently/
[10:50] <luxius> Error stating file '/home/luxius/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected.
[10:51] <ndkelly> luxius, Glad you could boot properly.
[10:52] <luxius> ndkelly, do you know what that error message means? Why I can't access my home dir?
[10:52] <luxius> lost+found isn't accessible either
[10:53] <ndkelly> luxius, Not too sure on that one, I haven't had chance to learn the Linux file system well enough yet. sorry.
[10:53] <luxius> okay
[10:53] <ndkelly> I'm sure someone around here can help though.
[10:54] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : no i have not, how do i go about doing so
[10:54] <ndkelly> psyclone18723986, Are you using Unity or Gnome?
[10:54] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : i believe its gnome
[10:55] <cancer> I have installed nvidia-current and then nvidia-current-updates but nothing happend. can't increase resolution
[10:55] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : i just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and video playback was fine in 11.04
[10:55] <ndkelly> psyclone18723986, System > Administration > Hardware Drivers.
[10:55] <luxius> where do I find a terminal in xubuntu?
[10:55] <ndkelly> luxius, Right click on the desktop.
[10:56] <cancer> using kubuntu
[10:56] <luxius> psyclone18723986, have you tried VLC?
[10:56] <psyclone18723986> luxius : yes
[10:58] <pfifo> psyclone18723986, what media player do you use?
[10:59] <luxius> pfifo, VLC
[10:59] <luxius> once you've tried VLC there is no other media player
[10:59] <psyclone18723986> pfifo : i usualy use vlc
[10:59] <psyclone18723986> ndkelly : i cant find hardware drivers
[11:00] <luxius> psyclone18723986, which card to you have?
[11:00] <psyclone18723986> luxius : i am not sure what my video card is
[11:01] <pfifo> psyclone18723986, in vlc goto Prefrences -> Video and change the output tab to different settings, SDL,GL and X11 work well for me, try them all until you find something useful. You need to close vlc for changes to take effect
[11:01] <psyclone18723986> pfifo : ok
[11:02] <pfifo> psyclone18723986, you may also want to try with combinations of accelerated video output toggled on and off
[11:02] <MrHarptastic> Hey guys
[11:03] <MrHarptastic> Summing it up. What is linux best known for?
[11:04] <MrHarptastic> other than servers.
[11:04] <mosno> MrHarptastic, the lulz
[11:05] <pfifo> MrHarptastic, the difficulty in learning how to administrate the system
[11:05] <stimpie> MrHarptastic, linux is best know for being opensource if you want something different you are free to do so
[11:05] <ndkelly> MrHarptastic, That depends. best known for by whom?
[11:05] <MrHarptastic> I love options
[11:05] <WhereIsMySpoon> MrHarptastic, then linux is for you :)
[11:06] <MrHarptastic> :)
[11:06] <ndkelly> MrHarptastic, By the general population (what we refer to as 'normals') geeks in basements.
[11:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> as long as you dont mind a challenge at points
[11:06] <MrHarptastic> << Geek in spare room. Does that count?
[11:06] <luxius> oooh ... lspci shows all hardware, nice command to know
[11:06] <ndkelly> Yes. Also, i think this should possibly be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:06] <mi3> MrHarptastic linux is free as in beer [wait you wont get beer] :) should I say free as in freedom.........
[11:06] <mosno> MrHarptastic, if you want to really taste Linux, install a source-based distro on a spare PC :)
[11:06] <WhereIsMySpoon> lsusb shows all usb devices
[11:07] <pfifo> luxius, lshw
[11:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> but i think is bugged atm
[11:07] <MrHarptastic> I've got a spare dell lying around. I've been thinking about doing something linuxie to it
[11:07] <WhereIsMySpoon> do eet.
[11:07] <mi3> hehe
[11:07] <MrHarptastic> source-based distro you say?
[11:07] <ndkelly> Yes, do it. Installing Linux on my spare PCs helped me learn a new OS.
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> MrHarptastic  what's keeping you?
[11:08] <luxius> wow, lshw is verbose indeed
[11:08] <MrHarptastic> you mean the lack of GUI i presume..lol
[11:08] <ndkelly> If you really want a challenge, install gentoo or suicide linux.
[11:08] <mosno> MrHarptastic, i mean one where you compile the executables from source
[11:08] <mosno> MrHarptastic, like LFS or Gentoo
[11:08] <MrHarptastic> ahh. I've been doing that with this one..lol
[11:09] <mosno> MrHarptastic, it'll help with your Ubuntu skillz :)
[11:09] <MrHarptastic> I didn't know you could actually apt-get..lol
[11:09] <pfifo> suicide linux?
[11:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> MrHarptastic, doh
[11:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
[11:09] <MrHarptastic> I was ./configure, make , make install...... etc et
[11:09] <WhereIsMySpoon> :p
[11:09] <ndkelly> pfifo, Basically, if you make a spelling mistake or anything in console. Your drive is wiped.
[11:10] <MrHarptastic> and lots of tearms and hurting knuckles
[11:10] <luxius> MrHarptastic, here's a tip from one Windoze user to another: Use Debian (Ubuntu is built on Debian) if you consider a linux distro. Debian has a tight package system that makes sure all dependencies are installed and cleans up drivers not needed.
[11:10] <mosno> luxius, "cleans up drivers not needed"?
[11:10] <ndkelly> mosno, I think he meant dependencies.
[11:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> although if you want ubuntu, use 11.04 or earlier
[11:10] <luxius> well, how else can you describe it to a non-linux user? :D
[11:10] <luxius> libraries
[11:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> or use xubuntu
[11:10] <luxius> libs
[11:10] <WhereIsMySpoon> at least imo
[11:11] <luxius> xubuntu > ubuntu
[11:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> im pretty sure this is kinda offtopic though
[11:11] <MrHarptastic> I'm on the most current U. what's wrong  after .04
[11:11] <MrHarptastic> ?
[11:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> gnome3/unity
[11:11] <MrHarptastic> ahhh
[11:11] <ndkelly> i'm still on 10.04.
[11:11] <mosno> gnome3 > unity
[11:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> only because it's less bad, mosno
[11:11] <WhereIsMySpoon> anyhow
[11:11] <upset> ndkelly: And that's why I know you're smarter than the rest of us
[11:11] <mosno> WhereIsMySpoon, that doesn't invalidate my assertion :P
[11:12] <MrHarptastic> well, I like doing things from scratch. learning a bit of src compilation via configs and makes I think was a good experience for my first few days
[11:12] <luxius> MrHarptastic, then you should install a clean Debian
[11:12] <pfifo> ndkelly, im going to make a suicide linux livecd
[11:13] <ndkelly> upset, How so?
[11:13] <ndkelly> pfifo, Good luck.
[11:13]  * mosno installed a dirty Debian once
[11:13] <MrHarptastic> *wipes off his debian.
[11:13] <MrHarptastic> it was dirty..lol
[11:13] <upset> ndkelly: Because you actually stick with the LTS.
[11:13] <mosno> debian is pretty sweet, but you gotta roll up your sleeves a bit
[11:13] <luxius> Ubuntu is a dirty Debian -.-
[11:14] <MrHarptastic> dirty dirty debains.....
[11:14] <MrHarptastic> debian*...
[11:14] <upset> Why are we hating on debians?
[11:14] <ndkelly> upset, I'll probably stick with this one when 12.04 is stable too. Purely for performance reasons on my netbook.
[11:14] <mosno> we're not, Debian is awesome
[11:14] <MrHarptastic> I don't even know what a debian is.. (reaches for google)
[11:14] <mosno> Debian generally rocks Ubuntu, except for certain use cases
[11:14] <MrHarptastic> !debian
[11:15] <ndkelly> currently burning a 12.04 live cd though. Just to try it on my desktop.
[11:15] <luxius> I remember ages ago when I compiled a kernel from "scratch" ... fun times
[11:15] <edgars> 12.04 gives me extra 2h of battery time
[11:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> i doubt it, edgars
[11:16] <upset> ndkelly: :\ That's a fantastic reason. I was hoping to improve performance on 12.04, since even Unity2d has bogged me down a bit. I think I'll do what I should have done before and switch to xfce with dockbarx or plank when it's ready
[11:16] <edgars> but it dose
[11:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> i doubt it is actually 12.04 as opposted to 11.10
[11:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> and i instead posit that its just you dont have all the crap you installed with 11.10
[11:16] <MrHarptastic> The only thing I don't like about src compilation is all the errors... I'm still learning about these angry little files with "lib" on the front of them...lol
[11:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> unless they did something amaizng with 12.04
[11:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> amazing
[11:16] <mosno> MrHarptastic, it definitely takes more time/patience
[11:16] <ndkelly> upset, I may try 12.04, and if it performs poorly, i'll reinstall 10.04 from backup. Regardless, i'll be sticking with gnome2.
[11:17] <ndkelly> or at least not unity.
[11:17] <upset> WhereIsMySpoon: Atareao said it was a little springier.
[11:17] <luxius> WhereIsMySpoon, http://www.ubuntu.com/ specifically says 12.04 is in BETA, why the doubt? =)
[11:17] <edgars> WhereIsMySpoon, they did somthing with the kernel + i discovered laptop tools
[11:17] <mosno> MrHarptastic, i'm using Ubuntu as a temporary platform while I build up a system from source in my spare time
[11:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> well, maybe im wrong
[11:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> :)
[11:17] <mosno> MrHarptastic, but who knows, 12.04 might impress me ;)
[11:17] <ponrajuganesh> I need to represent the data command out as "YYYYMMDDHHMMSS" - how to do that
[11:18] <MrHarptastic> 12.04 of?
[11:18] <luxius> Ubuntu
[11:18] <mosno> Ubuntu, of course
[11:18] <edgars> idk but yesterday i used it from approximately  for 6h
[11:18] <MrHarptastic> Ubuntu? I think I missed something..
[11:18] <edgars> usualy i get 4
[11:18] <gvo> ponrajuganesh: where?
[11:18] <MrHarptastic> ok
[11:18] <upset> ndkelly: I'm a sucker for interesting environments. I might use gnome3 if it gets its kinks worked out. It's actually pretty responsive for me.
[11:18] <ponrajuganesh> in ubuntu terminal for the shell processing gvo
[11:18] <llutz> ponrajuganesh: "man date" read about Format-Controls
[11:18] <luxius> MrHarptastic, never mind, 12.04 is beta, don't use beta unless you are a hardcore linux user
[11:19] <MrHarptastic> I'm always hardcore.. Just a newbie-hardcore-linux-user..
[11:19] <MrHarptastic> bahaha
[11:19] <ndkelly> upset, I think i may try it on a desktop if, like you say the kinks are fixed.
[11:19] <upset> ndkelly: Zeitgheist is just the worst thing ever, though. As someone who has been using Unity 2d for like 7 months, I can tell you that the home button thing is a pain.
[11:19] <mosno> upset, yeah, it's a ton faster than 11.10 unity
[11:20] <ndkelly> upset, Zeitgheist? I'm not familiar with it.
[11:20] <luxius> For me unity just keeps crashing windows.
[11:20] <MrHarptastic> I usually dig  into projects like a dieting woman in a bag of rice cakes..
[11:20] <luxius> randomly
[11:20] <edgars> MrHarptastic Me too :D newbie-hardcore-linux-user
[11:20] <mosno> upset, at least it is on my  Pentium T2080 with 2GB RAM and 5200RPM HDD
[11:21] <mosno> not to mention Intel 945 graphics
[11:21] <upset> ndkelly: Zeitgheist is that thing they use to log activity so you can search for files and applications. It totally sucks, and makes finding anything really difficult. I'm all for quick access, but not if it's broken, and ESPECIALLY not if it hinders me from regular browsing.
[11:21] <mosno> also, gnome shell is far more usable imho
[11:21] <mosno> i can't think of a single thing unity does better
[11:21] <MrHarptastic> so far I'm liking linux. I feel like I'm actually doing something versus Bill Gates holding my hand through windowsland allowing me to scratch-and-sniff samples..
[11:22] <mosno> except pwn my resources
[11:22] <luxius> word, MrHarp
[11:22] <upset> mosno: It's that much faster? Jeez, I wish I had just seen if the installer would finish.
[11:22] <mosno> it really is
[11:22] <upset> Instead I'm stuck here at 5 in the morning with two computers on my lap
[11:22]  * luxius switched to xubuntu today, can confirm it's better than unity/unity2d
[11:22] <ndkelly> upset, I think they just tried to over-complicate things with unity. By failing to simplify them
[11:22] <mosno> MrHarptastic, imma let you finish, but notepad.exe is the best editor of all time!
[11:23] <MrHarptastic> yes, I would agree..lol I've edited a lot of config files on notepad.exe...haha
[11:23] <mosno> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/kanye-interrupts-imma-let-you-finish
[11:23] <luxius> but what about the Ubuntu Software Center? It's soooo sloooow and it often crashes ... what's up?
[11:23] <ndkelly> mosno, If you having code problems i feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems but a glitch aint one.
[11:23] <mosno> haha
[11:23] <mosno> i remember that image
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> didn't like unity or xubuntu, using ubuntu classic atm
[11:24] <mosno> ndkelly, http://www.buzzfeed.com/conors3/99-problems-but-a-glitch-aint-one-1pjk
[11:24] <upset> ndkelly: They caught on to something with the idea of access. I can't switch back to firefox even though I need it to view some sites because chromium's address bar is so smart. It always knows what I want to do.
[11:24] <mosno> ah, yes, xfce. great until it does something really badly, like the battery status notification
[11:25] <mosno> hmm, i suppose i could say that about every DE
[11:25] <ndkelly> upset, As in, using the address bar as a search bar? Also, I think unity will work really well on say, a tablet. When that happens. Just not for a desktop.
[11:25] <upset> mosno: Oh jeez. Don't scare me, I'm trying to switch. Maybe I should go back to gnome2
[11:25] <mosno> i don't see how unity is a tablet interface
[11:25] <mosno> i think that was just some kool aid
[11:25] <mosno> upset, windowmaker
[11:25] <mosno> :D
[11:25] <upset> ndkelly: I have a tablet! It's a tablet netbook. It totally sucks.
[11:25] <mosno> linux desktop hackers should drop everything and work on gnustep
[11:25] <upset> windowmaker?
[11:26] <MrHarptastic> omg, mosno.. that picture is priceless.
[11:26] <mosno> it is the DE with the most promice
[11:26] <ndkelly> upset, Is it the Transformer per chance?
[11:26] <mosno> promise*
[11:26] <cosmic_> help
[11:26] <upset> Also lol@ Imma let you finish
[11:26] <cosmic_> libpulse-simple.so.0: cannot open shared object file
[11:26] <mosno> but nobody cares about it because they're prejudiced against objC or something
[11:26] <upset> ndkelly: What?
[11:26] <cosmic_> ubuntu 12.04
[11:26] <mosno> sigh
[11:26] <ndkelly> upset, Your tablet/netbook.
[11:26] <mosno> ironically, canonical and gnome are trying to copy OS X
[11:26] <mosno> but gnustep is tha bomb on that yo
[11:26] <mosno> sigh
[11:26] <mosno> if only i was elite
[11:27] <mosno> i could hack you up a dream gnustep desktop
[11:27] <mosno> ;)
[11:27] <upset> ndkelly: The screen itself works fine, if that's what you're asking.  It took me a good while to become accustomed to the 1024*600 display.
[11:27] <ponrajuganesh> date '+%Y%m%d%H%M%S'  this is it guys
[11:27] <ndkelly> Can't stand it with windows 7 though, so i removed it.
[11:27] <Kaltiz> How do you make boot settings permanent?
[11:28] <ndkelly> And booting xp from a usb proved to be more effort than i cared to put up with.
[11:28] <upset> ndkelly: Nothing changes just because I'm using a tablet screen. The way it handles it, almost every program gets confused because every touch is a continuous click and so everything looks like a single stroke.
[11:28] <ndkelly> upset, Ah, i see what you mean. The machine i use at work is similar. Although, that's resistive *shudder*
[11:29] <Kaltiz> also
[11:29] <luxius> After I change file manager from Thunar to Nautilus do I then have to restart my x11 session?
[11:29] <Kaltiz> is there a way to start unity from the command line?
[11:29] <upset> ndkelly: Me too, a little bit. But I love the portability and the small keyboard. Also, have you tried Windows 8? I'm curious about it.
[11:29] <ndkelly> luxius, yes.
[11:29] <mosno> riddle me this, #ubuntu -- is there a daemon/service that detects when i plug/unplug a VGA monitor on my laptop and adjusts which display it's outputting to automatically?
[11:29] <luxius> brb
[11:29] <mosno> because it's sucky having to go into display properties and do it manually
[11:29] <MrHarptastic> Can you import windows files and play with the src for them to work on linux?
[11:29] <ndkelly> upset, Not yet, I haven't been all that bothered by it. It took me about 18 months after 7 came out to switch from XP. Never bothered with vista.
[11:29] <upset> ndkelly: Resistive is god-tier, nobody knows. I have pressure sensitivity! Using my finger would be terrible. What am I, five? I need precision, brother.
[11:30] <TLoFP-BOOK> When I copy things to my SD card it seems to copy quite fast but then hang, (no progress, no disk usage), then after some time it copies again and hangs again, and then repeats. Is this normal? Is there a buffer somewhere whose write performance I am actually seeing?
[11:30] <ndkelly> upset, If my screen at work were capacitive, it would be hell for what i do.
[11:31] <upset> ndkelly: Well, it's pretty powerful and efficient. It can run perfectly without modification on a smartphone, and evidently they've been gearing themselves towards some kind of linuxy model.
[11:31] <upset> ndkelly: What is it you do, if you don't mind me asking?
[11:31] <ndkelly> upset, Yeah, i think for a phone it will work really well. Same for a tablet, but a desktop? no way.
[11:31] <ndkelly> upset, I'm a lighting designer.
[11:32] <luxius> hmm, changed to Nautilus (as was file manager in unity2d) but I still can't access my home dir.
[11:32] <luxius> Error stating file '/home/luxius/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected.
[11:32] <Kaltiz> Anyone not know? ):
[11:32] <luxius> works fine in a terminal
[11:32] <ndkelly> luxius, have you tried it with root privelages/
[11:32] <upset> ndkelly: I don't know much about its environment. I just know it does some crazy stuff, and it comes with some kind of ubuntu-like appstore and they've released several version for free
[11:32] <luxius> I'm not logging on x11 as root xD
[11:33] <upset> ndkelly: Also, interesting job. I wonder how you got into linux, of all things.
[11:33] <ndkelly> upset, I might dabble in W8 if i get the time/chance. I've always been tech headed, and Linux was the final frontier for me. Only installed it about a month ago.
[11:34] <luxius> wait, it's still Thunar being used although I changed it in Preferred Applications
[11:34] <upset> ndkelly: No way!  Freaking out over my partition table and stuff.
[11:35] <luxius> I think I'm rebooting the machine instead ... o/
[11:35] <jack> ndkelly: you'll hate win8
[11:35] <werder> luxius: you don't need to start x as root, just "sudo nautilus"
[11:35] <luxius> werder, thanks, good tip
[11:35] <jack> it's no better than v7 was
[11:35] <luxius> but I'll reboot, brb
[11:35] <ndkelly> jack, quite possibly. That's why i haven't been following it in the media.
[11:35] <upset> jack: You've tried it? Did you look at the developer version or the consumer which just came out?
[11:35] <ubuntu> why would ubuntu freeze trying it on cd
[11:36] <jack> upset: i think it was the consumer build
[11:36] <ndkelly> upset, Hah, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm a fast learner. i pick things up pretty quickly, and i log into IRC so i can both help out and learn more myself.
[11:36] <upset> I just heard about it from my boyfriend, and thought it sounded totally nuts. He wants to try it too.
[11:36] <MrHarptastic> tilda -- You make everything better...
[11:36] <Kaltiz> hello?
[11:36] <MrHarptastic> lol
[11:36] <upset> ndkelly: Ah, so you probably just did a google search to find the gksu thing
[11:36] <upset> Kaltiz: Hello!
[11:37] <ubuntu> any body
[11:37] <Kaltiz> :O
[11:37] <ndkelly> upset, I knew of the command, i just couldn't remember the exact command.
[11:37] <gvo> ubuntu: bad cd?
[11:37] <LJ1> how can i use the debian-sys-maint user for database backup? i dont see the --defauls-file option in mysqldump?
[11:37] <ubuntu> nope
[11:37] <Kaltiz> I don't have the unity side bar and top bar anymore ideas?
[11:37] <ndkelly> upset, But now i do know, and therefore both helped and learned at the same time.
[11:37] <upset> ndkelly: Well, I'm pretty sure live iso's used to just come with repair utilities, but now it kind of sucks.
[11:38] <upset> ndkelly: Smart!
[11:38] <ubuntu> this pc has no hard drive or os its all on the ubuntu disk
[11:38] <upset> ndkelly: I like your style. Learning by doing.
[11:38] <gvo> LJ1: I wasn't aware that debian-sys-maint was used for that purpose.
[11:38] <LJ1> gvo: it has the correct database persmissions
[11:39] <gvo> Sure does
[11:39] <gvo> But that's not its purpose.
[11:39] <LJ1> gvo: could you explain what the purpose is then?
[11:40] <gvo> LJ1: http://serverfault.com/questions/9948/what-is-the-debian-sys-maint-mysql-user-and-more
[11:40] <upset> ndkelly: So how did you get to be so interested in tech? All the artists and designers I know freak out when they have to think about their computer.
[11:40] <ubuntu> any idea why my setup freezes
[11:40] <upset> nkelly: As a matter of fact, most simply fuss when it does something they don't understand.
[11:41] <gvo> ubuntu: maybe it doesn't like your display card.
[11:41] <gvo> ubuntu: what computer?
[11:42] <LJ1> gvo: thanks..
[11:42] <ubuntu> where can i get software that examines the ubuntu kernel every 5 min for errors and haker attacks like trip wire
[11:42] <upset> Ubuntu: Woah
[11:43] <hazamonzo> Hey folks. Im using recordmydesktop (ogv) so that i can record sound from my mic too. The sound is fine but the video is very jittery... looks like a single frame a second...
[11:43] <gvo> ubuntu what's wrong with tripwire
[11:43] <hazamonzo> recoding to avi is fine but i don't get sound with that
[11:43] <hazamonzo> any pointers?
[11:43] <ubuntu> im not getting good info on trip wire
[11:43] <ndkelly> upset, Funnily enough, it started in Y6 when i made a powerpoint presentation
[11:43] <ubuntu> i went to the website and get get any good info on it
[11:44] <gvo> ubuntu http://sourceforge.net/projects/tripwire/
[11:44] <ndkelly> upset, Since then, it grew into a passion.  I don't understand it. You're a strange person, for sure.
[11:45] <luxius> yay, switching back to Nautilus fixed my problem, I now have access to ~/ through the GUI file manager
[11:45] <ubuntu> in your opinion
[11:45] <ndkelly> upset, I now do graphic design and light web development. I'm expanding my programming and web languages though.
[11:45] <ndkelly> upset, strange is good.
[11:45] <gvo> ubuntu http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8758
[11:46] <luxius> it also changed my desktop image back to the previous one, which is a shame, I like the XFCE mouse ... :/
[11:46] <sacarlson> ubuntu as far as I know tripwire will alarm when any system files that you don't expect to change hapen to get modified
[11:46] <upset> ndkelly: That's all pretty admirable. I feel like I stumbled into linux without knowing much. Ubuntu lets you do that, I guess. But now people think I'm some kind of nerd chick.
[11:46] <luxius> can anyone here argue which is better? Nautilus or Thunar?
[11:46] <a---Turk-Kaya> aa
[11:47] <auronandace> luxius: whichever you prefer
[11:47] <upset> luxius: Don't ask those kinds of questions. It depends on user needs, of course
[11:47] <ndkelly> upset, I didn't know anything other than Windows until i installed OS X on my netbook, purely to learn it. Same with Linux. I'm going to stick with Ubuntu for a while, then move on to more interesting distros. Possibly Arch.
[11:47] <gvo> auronandace: +1
[11:47] <luxius> you're right, I'm sorry ... I'll try to rephrase my question
[11:47] <ndkelly> luxius, 'Better' is subjective. It's all opinion based.
[11:47] <luxius> Well, I was asking for opinions xD
[11:48] <sattu94> luxius: I use PCMANFM
[11:48] <ubuntu> anybody got any inside info on tripwire
[11:48] <luxius> I guess what I want to know is how deep a file manager's claws dig ...
[11:48] <ubuntu> or know the proper channel
[11:49] <Pirsch> Hi all. I'm running 11.10. When I put a video on my mp4 player, it doesn't work. If I use Windows 7 to put the file on the mp4 player, it works. I've done the medibuntu thing and have had no luck.
[11:49] <upset> ndkelly: Woahoho, you installed OS X on your netbook for the lulz? You really are a weird guy. I've been interested in other distros too, I'm just afraid of straying because I feel like Ubuntu is too well supported and has such a large community that I wouldn't be satisfied.
[11:49] <sattu94> Nautilus does a lot more than managing files. So I prefer Pcmanfm because it sticks to managing files and nothing else.
[11:49] <upset> luxius: What does that even mean?
[11:50] <ndkelly> upset, More a mixture of curiosity and performance really. the way i learn best is by sitting down with something and just doing it. thus the reason i was able to help out a little today
[11:50] <edgars> Pirsch the same video?
[11:50] <Pirsch> Yes, same vid
[11:50] <konza> Hi all, I have a small doubt.. What is linux IPF
[11:51] <upset> ndkelly: Again, that's pretty awesome. You're all moxy.
[11:51] <Pirsch> In PCLOS I can make it work after installing task-multimedia but I've never had luck with ubuntu
[11:51] <Pirsch> The thing is, I want to use ubuntu and only ubuntu
[11:51] <ndkelly> upset, I'm not sure what that means. It must be a localism from where you are!
[11:51] <sacarlson> ubuntu: it's a simple setup just point the config at stuf you don't expect to change like /bin /sbin/ /usr/bin /usr/sbin  some stuf in /etc
[11:51] <luxius> upset, well, I don't know what a file manager does, except managing files in a GUI? Maybe that's far from the truth, even ...
[11:52] <edgars> Pirsch when the player is connected is it shown as a mass storage or somthing else
[11:52] <Pirsch> yes
[11:52] <luxius> upset, I was surprised to see my desktop background image change as I changed file manager ...
[11:52] <upset> ndkelly: Moxy? It's from 1930s American movies. Where are you?
[11:52] <ndkelly> upset, the UK.
[11:52] <luxius> upset, so I guess a file manager in linux is somewhat like explorer.exe in Windows?
[11:52] <edgars> Pirsch and you can play the video in ubuntu
[11:52] <upset> luxius: Yeah, that's pretty weird.  Probably. I don't know, actually
[11:53] <auronandace> luxius: explorer in windows if far more entrenched than any linux equivilents
[11:53] <upset> ndkelly: Wrong person
[11:54] <Pirsch> edgars, I've tied using other machines but it makes no difference. Something must get lost in the codecs or something. I'm too noobish to figure this one out. :)
[11:54] <ndkelly> upset, Now i'm confused. hah.
[11:54] <edgars> Pirsch it's wierd it is just a file transfer so it should work
[11:54] <upset> auronandace: Yeah, doesn't it also control the toolbar for some reason?
[11:54] <auronandace> luxius: like sattu94 said, a file manager should just manage files
[11:54] <Pirsch> edgars, yes, that's what I think
[11:54] <samosa> Has anyone got amd catalyst to work / run on hybird hardware ( Intel igp + ati gpu)  ?
[11:54] <upset> ndkelly: I didn't say anything about changing DEs, except that I was considering it
[11:55] <Pirsch> Believe it or not, I've had this problem for over a year. Been here about 10 times hoping to find an answer
[11:55] <ndkelly> upset, that was meant for luxius I'm just in the habit of replying to you now. Sorry!
[11:55] <Pirsch> edgars, I wish I could just install task-multimedia
[11:55] <upset> auronandace: That's an opinion if I ever did see one
[11:55] <luxius> auronandace, thanks for clarification, I do know explorer.exe is a lot more than a file manager, just trying to comprehend xD
[11:55] <upset> ndkelly: np
[11:55] <Pirsch> but that's for PCLOS
[11:56] <sattu94> luxius: Yes, Nautilys is the only File Manager I know that also sets up your Desktop Manager..
[11:56] <sattu94> s/Manager/Background/
[11:56] <luxius> okay, so I read up a bit on Thunar and PCMANFC, seems they are both more lightweight and scalable than Nautilus
[11:57] <ndkelly> upset, I looked up 'moxy' so i'm going to take it as a compliment. Haha.
[11:57] <sattu94> luxius: Kinda, I use both alternatively.
[11:57] <edgars> Pirsch: what dose it do?
[11:58] <upset> ndkelly: I can't believe you'd never heard the word
[11:58] <MrHarptastic> here's a coconut-scratcher.... I can haz thumbnails in file manager? (select file)
[11:58] <upset> ndkelly: Guess you felt like I did when I tried to watch Jeeves and Wooster
[11:58] <Pirsch> edgars, either it will say "Unsupported format" or if it does play it's broken and you cannot even tell what the pic is.
[11:59] <ndkelly> upset, Haha. possibly.
[11:59] <Pirsch> It also sounds like a needle being dragged across a record.
[11:59] <MrHarptastic> !thumbnail
[12:00] <auronandace> !find thumbnail | MrHarptastic
[12:00] <upset> Geez. I can't believe I'm taking so long just so I don't have to redownload the Legend of Zelda animated series.
[12:00] <sacarlson> MrHarptastic: I think when I set nautilus in icon mode it will display thumbnails if the file is a jpg or other pic file
[12:00] <Pirsch> edgars, I've tried using WinFF to reformat and try different types of formats. No luck
[12:01] <MrHarptastic> ok. thanks
[12:02] <edgars> Pirsch, only thing i could find
[12:03] <edgars> Pirsch sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg gxine mencoder mpeg2dec vorbis-tools id3v2 mpg321 mpg123 libflac++6 ffmpeg totem-mozilla icedax tagtool easytag id3tool lame nautilus-script-audio-convert libmad0 libjpeg-progs flac faac faad sox ffmpeg2theora libmpeg2-4 uudeview flac libmpeg3-1 mpeg3-utils mpegdemux liba52-0.7.4-dev libquicktime2
[12:04] <luxius> Pirsch, what are you trying to play?
[12:04] <edgars> Pirsch, g2g good luck by
[12:05] <Pirsch> Ok, thx edgars. Luxius, I just cannot get any video to play on my mp4 player (Android) when I transfer using Ubuntu. Win7 and PCLOS are no problem
[12:06] <Pirsch> edgar's plan is installing right now
[12:06] <luxius> Pirsch, which gizmo are you talking about? File format? Transfer mode?
[12:06] <Pirsch> Ok, let's see
[12:06] <luxius> yeah, edgar had you install a lot of codecs, afaik
[12:06] <luxius> I'm almost certain it won't help, but hey ... give it a try ^^
[12:07] <luxius> Pirsch, those codecs will resolve playback on the box, but transfering is another issue
[12:07] <upset> ndkelly: To Pangolin's credit, it has been running super quickly even though it's Unity3d from a live drive.
[12:07] <ndkelly> upset, I was just thinking the same. I'm booted into a liveCD on my desktop.
[12:08] <sacarlson> Pirsch: my guess is the files must get corrupted maybe in file transfer.  what method of file transfer do you used?
[12:08] <upset> ndkelly: I don't recommend installing it. :|
[12:08] <AdvoWork> anyone know why/if/how its possible to change Chrome so that it will print background colours. It appears that there is no option to do this?
[12:08] <ndkelly> upset, No intention of doing. I use my main desktop for Gaming, and Design work.
[12:09] <suj> need help in getting ubuntu
[12:09] <Pirsch> sacarlson, I just drag and drop
[12:09] <ndkelly> upset, I have another computer for using as a sandbox to play with distros on.
[12:09] <sacarlson> Pirsch: over usb?  wifi ?  bluetooth????
[12:09] <Pirsch> usb
[12:09] <luxius> suj, what kind of help? www.ubuntu.com
[12:09] <sacarlson> Pirsch: it's android why not use wifi?
[12:09] <suj> somebody please pass me the files for ubuntu
[12:10] <suj> i tired downloading t..
[12:10] <upset> ndkelly: Gaming? Oh, you are really cool.
[12:10] <luxius> suj, and?
[12:10] <Pirsch> I have to reboot. For some reason I just lost my mouse and keyboard. I'll be back
[12:10] <upset> ndkelly: Blegh. Got my files. No I can get ready for class while I wait for the startup disk creator.
[12:10] <suj> but it never downloaded completely
[12:10] <luxius> sacarlson, USB or WIFI, same deal if the transfer mode corrupts files
[12:10] <suj> than luxius for listenn to me
[12:11] <luxius> sacarlson, we'll need to know which gizmo he's using, etc.
[12:11] <ndkelly> upset, I say gaming, it's really just BF2 thesedays.
[12:11] <luxius> suj, well, you need the entire .ISO to finish downloading, then burn it on a CD (if that's the method you are using, which I recommend)
[12:11] <sacarlson> luxius: I'm not sure at times I've had trouble moving large files with nautilus so not sure why it happens at times
[12:12] <upset> ndkelly: BF2? Battle frontier or something like that? I'm not much for first-person shooters.
[12:12] <sacarlson> luxius: oh and that was using samba,  it seems much better with sshfs over nautilus
[12:12] <ndkelly> upset, Battlefield.
[12:12] <upset> ndkelly: Ha, I can barely handle Zelda 1
[12:12] <suj> i knw luxuis...but im not able to download the whole iso file due to some reason..it stops in between
[12:12] <upset> ndkelly: Noted
[12:12] <luxius> sacarlson, lol samba ... no, seriously, if it's possible to avoid samba I would at all cost
[12:12] <zagibu> shooters *yawn*
[12:13] <sacarlson> luxius: well android supports samba so I'm not sure what he uses
[12:13] <luxius> suj, what is your transfer method? http? ftp?
[12:13] <upset> ndkelly: Oh God, gnome 2 is so much more efficient. ;_;
[12:13] <ndkelly> upset, Very true. That's why i like it so much.
[12:13] <suj> @luxius:http
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> ndkelly  +1
[12:13] <upset> ndkelly: Been using other netbook while I fix this
[12:13] <luxius> sacarlson, maybe that's it. Maybe he transfers with samba and it isn't correctly setup in linux? O.o
[12:14] <ndkelly> upset, What netbook is it/
[12:14] <luxius> sacarlson, I'm taking wild guesses
[12:14] <suj> i downloded it from their official site
[12:14] <luxius> suj, you should try with an FTP client. Which OS are you on?
[12:14] <suj> im havng a windows 7
[12:14] <sacarlson> luxius: until pirsch tries other method of transfer we won't have any clues
[12:14] <luxius> suj, browser?
[12:14] <upset> ndkelly: I'm definitely using some combination of lightweight everyday applications, gnome2 or xfce toolbar, synapse, and a good dock.
[12:14] <suj> chrome
[12:14] <upset> ndkelly: T101MT
[12:14] <zagibu> suj: proxy server?
[12:15] <luxius> suj, I believe it has an FTP client ...
[12:15] <ndkelly> upset, I've considered using Cairo-dock instead of the default bottom taskbar.
[12:15] <suj> @luxius:cud u direct me?
[12:15] <suj> FTP client?
[12:16] <upset> ndkelly: Meh on cairo. I like dockbarx because it's nice for window management.
[12:16] <ndkelly> upset, How's the performance with dockbarx on a 1.6 Atom?
[12:16] <luxius> suj, here's an even better option: get a torrent client (uTorrent)
[12:16] <luxius> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt
[12:17] <upset> ndkelly: Awesome. It just takes a few seconds to start, though it's not longer than unity-2d-launcher takes
[12:17] <ndkelly> upset, i'll install it now and see how i like it
[12:17] <ndkelly> upset, What's the package name/
[12:17] <upset> ndkelly: Plank is the most efficient thing I've seen, although it's an infant.
[12:18] <upset> ndkelly: There isn't one, it's a ppa
[12:18] <luxius> suj, what kind of CPU is in your computer?
[12:18] <upset> ndkelly: The most current info you can get on dockbarx is on their google plus page
[12:19] <ponrajuganesh> is there a substring version found in bash?
[12:19] <ponrajuganesh> is there a substring version found in bash?
[12:19] <ndkelly> upset, Currently installing from gnome-look.
[12:19] <upset> ndkelly: The elementary team has been chugging out some cool stuff in general.
[12:19] <suj> @luxius:im using a laptop
[12:19] <suj> windows 7
[12:19] <luxius> suj, if you press the Windows key + Pause/Break you get the System Properties (in Windows)
[12:20] <upset> ndkelly: For example, wingpanel is a neat concept and they have lots of other lightweight but effective and beautiful applications coming out.
[12:20] <luxius> suj, System Properties tells you which CPU you have
[12:20] <ndkelly> upset, I'll be sure to check those out, thank you.
[12:20] <luxius> suj, ie AMD/Intel and which architecture
[12:20] <suj> intel core duo
[12:21] <suj> 2ghz
[12:21] <upset> ndkelly: If you're interested in nifty things and know Spanish, check out Atareao's blog
[12:21] <suj> 32 bit
[12:21] <suj> 2.5gb RAM
[12:22] <luxius> suj, pretty sure that's 64-bit, so you'll need the AMD64 distribution
[12:22] <luxius> not need, but want
[12:22] <ndkelly> upset, I don't speak Spanish, however i may be able to translate the page with google.
[12:22] <auronandace> luxius: not all core duo's are 64bit
[12:22] <upset> ndkelly: Nah, don't bother. Webupd8 often grabs his programs.
[12:23] <sattu94> upset: or pipe Atareos blog through Google Translate ?
[12:23] <upset> sattu94:Gross, no. Seriously, just search for Atareao in Webupd8
[12:23] <suj> its not 64bt
[12:23] <luxius> auronandace, thanks
[12:24] <luxius> suj, well Windows might be 32-bit although the CPU is 64-bit
[12:24] <upset> Uuuugh I'm going to drink all the coffee ever
[12:24] <suj> ok
[12:24] <luxius> suj, you can get CPU-Z to check the entire CPU architecture
[12:24] <auronandace> luxius: no worries (i found out by personal experience with a t60, its the core 2 duos that are all 64bit) :)
[12:25] <suj> wer do u get tat now?
[12:25] <luxius> auronandace, hah, yeah, you're right - the core duos are pretty old :P
[12:25]  * mosno has a 32-bit only Core Duo as his fastest machine :)
[12:25] <upset> luxius: Everything is old after a few months. It's depressing :C
[12:25] <luxius> suj, google "CPU-Z download"
[12:26] <mosno> it's quick enough for a desktop PC
[12:26] <luxius> upset, what what? Evolution is depressing? xD
[12:26] <luxius> upset, I find human devolution depressing ... *sigh*
[12:26] <upset> luxius: Pshaw, using nonexistent science words where they don't even apply
[12:27] <mosno> it's blazing-fast on this gentoo-based liveusb system i've booted into actually
[12:27] <upset> luxius: Get with the program, people have always sucked.
[12:27] <Acegiak> does anyone know where there's a mirror of an iso with gma500 support built in?
[12:27] <mosno> xfce, midori web browser
[12:27] <mosno> <3
[12:27] <suj> ok im downloading that
[12:27] <luxius> upset, on another off-topic note: I am totally up to speed with the program. Human Civilisation OS needs to be upgraded to 2.0.
[12:27] <auronandace> upset: devolution is a valid word and more political than scientific
[12:28] <Myrtti> !offtopic | a reminder for everyone
[12:28] <upset> auronandance: Just because politicians make up a word does not make it valid.
[12:28] <luxius> evolution -> devolution -> revolution -> evolution -> ...
[12:28]  * luxius is a buddhist
[12:29] <auronandace> upset: please consider perchasing a dictionary
[12:29] <luxius> upset, try "define:devolution" in google ;)
[12:29] <Myrtti> could you please move the discussion over linguistics elsewhere
[12:29] <upset> Buddhist?!
[12:29] <upset> auronandace: You should ferst
[12:30] <jack> a) purchasing, b) first
[12:30] <luxius> Philologia <3 while I wait for suj
[12:30] <ndkelly> Installing xfce has installed a load of additional applications. So i now have duplicates.
[12:30] <ndkelly> Going to try and get rid and relog.
[12:31] <upset> jack: It was a joke, dude.
[12:31] <upset> jack: The e is on the other side of the keyboard from i
[12:31] <suj> i did
[12:31] <luxius> ndkelly, how can you get duplicates on a Debian foundation? O.o
[12:32] <luxius> suj, so you run it and got the entire CPU model?
[12:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> ndkelly, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[12:32] <suj> yes i did
[12:32] <suj> searching for the bit acc
[12:32] <upset> ndkelly: :\ I hate that. Maybe next time try xubuntu as a whole. Probably has some kind of metapackage which makes removal easier
[12:32] <root_> hello
[12:32] <luxius> suj, please paste the CPU information
[12:32] <luxius> should be at the top of CPU-Z
[12:34] <suj> im not gettin an option to copy?
[12:34] <luxius> no, just mark it with the mouse and do CTRL + C, suj
[12:34] <luxius> if possible
[12:35] <suj> nope
[12:35] <suj> not poss
[12:35] <luxius> suj, it isn't, just tried on my own Win7. Okay, tell me what it says in "Code Name".
[12:36] <suj> yonah
[12:36] <luxius> k, hang on
[12:37] <suj> ok
[12:38] <luxius> suj, it is a x86 CPU (32 bit): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yonah_%28microprocessor%29'
[12:38] <luxius> I'll find you an FTP download link.
[12:38] <suj> yep
[12:38] <suj> ok
[12:38] <luxius> suj, do you have a DVD burner?
[12:39] <suj> i can write it to my usb
[12:39] <luxius> yes, but you can't boot from it directly
[12:40] <suj> yes u can acc
[12:40] <luxius> not unless you make it bootable (didn't work with my USB pen, had to write a CD)
[12:40] <suj> mine is bootable
[12:40] <suj> i have a cd 700mb
[12:41] <sacarlson> luxius: as long as suj: has a big enuf usb pen and his bios supports boot off usb
[12:41] <luxius> suj, I am asking because there is a choice between a 1.5GB iso and a 700MB iso
[12:41] <suj> hmmm...send the link for both
[12:42] <luxius> ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/oneiric/release/ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso
[12:43] <suj> i got 1.5gb
[12:43] <suj> i have kept it for download
[12:43] <sw0rdfish> uhhh
[12:44] <sw0rdfish> my cell phone isn't being detected when I connect via usb cable
[12:44] <luxius> suj, the 700MB iso (CD) is only AMD64 + Mac
[12:44] <suj> ok
[12:44] <ndkelly> Installing xfce proved to be more of an annoyance than a bonus.
[12:44] <suj> i will do with the 1.5 as of now
[12:44] <sacarlson> sw0rdfish: cell is an android?
[12:45] <suj> thanx a lot
[12:45] <sw0rdfish> no
[12:45] <sw0rdfish> nokia
[12:45] <luxius> ndkelly, that's probably because you need to fix some confs, once you get XFCE up and running I'm sure you'll like it =)
[12:45] <luxius> suj, np
[12:45] <ndkelly> luxius, I've removed it. Currently removing all the extras it installed and didn't remove when i uninstalled it.
[12:45] <suj> @luxius:
[12:45] <sw0rdfish> i think its the cell phone
[12:45] <ndkelly> I now have 2 instances of terminal.
[12:45] <suj> cya
[12:45] <sw0rdfish> i'm restarting it
[12:45] <suj> tc
[12:46] <luxius> suj, good luck o/
[12:46] <suj> thanx cya
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> ndkelly  you can have two tabs, in stead of two instances
[12:46] <ndkelly> MonkeyDust, I mean, two terminal applications. I realise i worded that badly.
[12:46] <luxius> ndkelly, I'd remove ubuntu-desktop and then install xubuntu-desktop, but I'm not too sure if that's enough
[12:47] <ndkelly> luxius, I'm aiming to revert to how it was before. ie gnome2.
[12:47] <luxius> ndkelly, you chicken out already? ;)
[12:47] <sw0rdfish> yeah sacarlson it was the phone... it works now after restarting and its a nokia btw
[12:47] <auronandace> !gnome2 | ndkelly
[12:47] <luxius> !notunity
[12:48] <auronandace> ndkelly: xfce is likely your best alternative
[12:48] <ndkelly> luxius, Pretty much. I need my environment to look somewhat pretty, something that Gnome allwos me.
[12:48] <luxius> ndkelly, aim for Gnome3/xfce then
[12:49] <ubuntu_> Kvo staa maina :)
[12:49] <ndkelly> auronandace, I tried it for a while earlier today. But it's not very pleasing on the eyes. unless i just didn't play long enough to find suitable customizations.
[12:49] <ubuntu_> kak q katame kopeuetaaaaaaa ? :)
[12:50] <DJones> !bg | ubottu
[12:50] <auronandace> ndkelly: there aren't many pleasing themes for xfce in my opinion but it is functionally similar to gnome2
[12:50] <DJones> Grr, stupid me
[12:51] <ndkelly> auronandace, Gnome 2 was working fine, i was just exploring alternative options is all.
[12:51] <auronandace> ndkelly: my favourite theme so far for xfce is albatross
[12:52] <ndkelly> auronandace, My issue now is, removing the duplicate programs that xfce left behind. ie; terminal. But i can't find it in Software Centre, only the default Gnome terminal, which i wish to keep
[12:52] <luxius> how do I take a screen dump in X11/xubuntu ?
[12:52] <WhereIsMySpoon> luxius, print screen button?
[12:52] <rhin0> print screen
[12:52] <luxius> yeah, doesn't work
[12:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> :L
[12:53] <rhin0> gnome-screenshot
[12:53] <luxius> that is weird, now it does work! >_<
[12:53] <WhereIsMySpoon> :P
[12:53] <auronandace> ndkelly: sorry, i only use xfce so i've never needed to remove any of it
[12:53] <luxius> it just won't let me screen dump when I have the menu open
[12:54] <luxius> the uhm ... menu in top right corner, system menu or w/e you call it
[12:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> luxius - menu as in file/edit etc?
[12:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah
[12:54] <luxius> top left corner*
[12:54] <WhereIsMySpoon> i did wonder there ;)
[12:54] <luxius> well, actually, any menu!
[12:55] <dansku_> Hi, i made a distroupdate now my ubuntu is not working anymore, just inserted the live cd, how do i do a system repait?
[12:56] <antihc3> anyone know how to start unity with xinit -- :1.
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> !work| dansku_
[12:57] <luxius> hehe, MonkeyDust, I wonder what you do when someone says "isn't functional any longer"? ^_^
[12:58] <ndkelly> Winner. Found a pastable terminal command to remove everything.
[12:58] <auronandace> antihc3: the service that starts x is gdm (pre- 11.10) or lightdm (11.10+)
[12:58] <ndkelly> Has anyone bought the ubuntu mouse/
[12:58] <ndkelly> Considering one for my netbook.
[12:59] <Fyodorovna> ndkelly, yeah make sure it is fed or it gets belligerent. :)
[13:00] <ndkelly> Fyodorovna, Ha ha.
[13:01] <luxius> what happens if I paste this in shell? :(){ :|:& };:   <-- (please don't try!)
[13:01] <auronandace> !danger
[13:01] <luxius> thanks auronandace
[13:02] <scriptwarlock> luxius, that is no fun at all
[13:02] <luxius> well, that was probably my queue to quit IRC
[13:02] <luxius> scriptwarlock, your name is fitting indeed ;)
[13:02] <luxius> it's been a joy, catch you all on the flipside o/
[13:03] <dansku_> ubottu: sorry, it wont boot, when it try booting its on looking for network, doent find all network drived. so i guess a system restore would fix it
[13:03] <waxstone> what would that bash do?
[13:03] <antihc3> auronandace, thanks i will give that a run.
[13:05] <upset> Alright! Installed successfully! Yaaaay!
[13:05] <auronandace> !yay | upset
[13:05] <upset> Thanks, community! You're the best!
[13:05] <Fyodorovna> !cookie | auronandace
[13:06] <ndkelly> So i uninstalled xchat. Whilst using it.
[13:06] <Fyodorovna> ndkelly, bummer reinstall.
[13:07] <ndkelly> Just did. Now recovering all my server details from this session.
[13:07] <mosno> ndkelly: your config should still be there
[13:07] <Fyodorovna> ndkelly, cool, the files all stay in place.
[13:08] <ndkelly> I'll give it a shot
[13:08] <upset> Later, y'all. It's time for school.
[13:08] <upset> ndkelly: Thanks again. See you around!
[13:09] <ndkelly> Oh cool. Winner.
[13:09] <upset> ndkelly: Thanks again. See you around!
[13:09] <ndkelly> upset, Take care!
[13:10] <antihc3> dansku_, does your machine show the loading screen (even just the image)
[13:10] <varun06> sometime my application don't have top level menu bar in Ubuntu 11.10
[13:10] <varun06> anybody else face this issue
[13:10] <tumppu> is it on the top bar?
[13:10] <varun06> I have to log out and log in back to get that
[13:11] <samosa> Does anyone here have a laptop with hybird graphics (Intel igp + ati gpu)  ?
[13:11] <Fyodorovna> varun06, you have to click on the app to have it show.
[13:11] <waxstone> varun06: check if menu items ar at the top of the screen not the window
[13:11] <ikonia> samosa: I thought the hybrid was intel+nvidia, not intel+ati
[13:11] <varun06> I do that, it seems top level hide behind Ubuntu top level bar
[13:12] <Fyodorovna> varun06, when you open the dash are you getting all options?
[13:12] <varun06> yes
[13:12] <acybervortex> hi all, is it possible to have a system that downloads emails from my mail server, modifies the content based on some sort of preg match and then forwards it on based on a rule?
[13:13] <auronandace> ikonia: i'm not sure if he just means switchable
[13:13] <samosa> ikonia: name is irrelevant,  just Intel igp + ati gpu is important
[13:13] <samosa> Yes, switchable
[13:13] <ikonia> samosa: the name is relevent as ati/ndvia are very different
[13:13] <Fyodorovna> varun06, it takes some orientation probably, but it can be disconcerting, could be there is a problem though.
[13:14] <varun06> it is irritating, I mean you see the application there but no menu bar
[13:14] <sacarlson> acybervortex: there is a mail site ipipi.com that I think does that,  I'm sure you could write a script in ruby or others to do the same in linux
[13:14] <varun06> I have to close these apps from unity launcher
[13:14] <auronandace> samosa: switchable graphics doesn't really have good support under linux yet
[13:14] <WhereIsMySpoon> varun - are you talking about not having window bars in unity?
[13:14] <varun06> then log out, then I see them fine
[13:14] <varun06> yeah
[13:14] <waxstone> varun06: it is at the top of the monitor unless window is maximized
[13:15] <samosa> auronandace: yes, I'm finding that out right now ;-(
[13:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> thats just part of unity
[13:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> windows dont have title bars, its all at the top as wax says
[13:15] <waxstone> varrun06:that is a feature of unity
[13:15] <varun06> even in not full screen mode
[13:15] <WhereIsMySpoon> correct varun
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> that's called "global menu"
[13:15] <varun06> I should see the bar if it is not maximized
[13:16] <samosa> auronandace: do you think it will ever be solved?
[13:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> varun - the menu bar (i.e. with file, edit, help etc) is ALWAYS at the top of the screen
[13:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> in unity
[13:16] <WhereIsMySpoon> and unmaximised windows dont have any sort of top bar, you have to press alt and click to drag them
[13:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> its part of the, imo, horribleness of unity
[13:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> but each to their own :)
[13:17] <Daekdroom> Unmaximized windows do have a top bar ^o)
[13:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> Daekdroom, at the top of the screen, yes
[13:17] <gagan662_> somebody help....!!!
[13:17] <Daekdroom> WhereIsMySpoon, I'm not talking about a menu
[13:17] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan, ask the question
[13:17] <auronandace> samosa: given time perhaps but i'm rather doubtful (i think its windows technology and proprietry)
[13:17] <Daekdroom> They have a title bar with close/maximize/minimize buttons.
 Alt not necessary to drag
[13:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> Odd, maybe when i installed it it was bugged or something
[13:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont use it anyways
[13:18] <gagan662_> can someone listen to me?????????
[13:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, ask your question
[13:18] <WhereIsMySpoon> preferably with less question marks
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> :)
[13:19] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon <- lspci | grep VGA
[13:19] <gagan662_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
[13:19] <shabbir> hi
[13:19] <konza> Hi all, how to upgrade an installed package using synaptic
[13:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, ok?
[13:19] <sacarlson> waxstone: it can become nesisary to alt drag if the graphics is too big for the screen to see everything needed to operate the aplication at times
[13:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> konza, use the update manager?
[13:19] <WhereIsMySpoon> or do you mean a custom .deb package that you made and installed
[13:20] <zvacet> gagan662_:  do you need driver for it or what
[13:20] <gagan662_> whereismyspoon<- when i move window across desktop i get cpu 40%
[13:20] <konza> WhereIsMySpoon, i would like to use command
[13:20] <WhereIsMySpoon> no idea konza sorry
[13:20] <Soulwinter> jemand da der von truecrypt ahnung hat?
[13:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, sounds a bit much, you got the latest drivers and shizz? and are you using proprietry or open source ones
[13:21] <sacarlson> konza: just click the apps box if it has an upgrade available and hit apply
[13:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> sacarlson, he wanted a command
[13:21] <WhereIsMySpoon> not gui
[13:22] <Soulwinter> anyone there who knows good about truecrypt? :x
[13:22] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: i used ati in ubuntu repository..
[13:22] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: i used ati driver located in ubuntu repository..
[13:22] <sacarlson> WhereIsMySpoon: a command for synaptic?  it's a gui.  but equiv then would be just apt-get install appname ,  if an upgrade for that app is availible it will install it
[13:23] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: i even tried latest catelyst from official ati site.but of no use..i got same problem...
[13:23] <Soulwinter> anyone there who knows good about truecrypt? :x
 Ahh or good to know! I use unity =)
[13:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> sacarlson, oh yea duh lol ><
[13:24] <bumbar> i have ubuntu 11.10 on vbox and trying to use shared folder with host, but i can't change owner of folder with nautilus
[13:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> bumbar - try it with gksu nautilus
[13:24] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: what to do man???///
[13:24] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, i dont know, maybe someone else here can help you
[13:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, what are you using?
[13:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> 11.10?
[13:25] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: yep
[13:25] <WhereIsMySpoon> meh, 11.10 has performance issues
[13:25] <computer_> Hi there all, I am having a very annoying issue where after disconnecting my wired network in Ubuntu 11.10 and then closing my laptop lid, then after a while opening my laptop lid, logging in and then plugging the LAN cable back in the network manager icon just endlessly runs the animation for connecting but never connects. Only after a complete computer restart can the LAN connect again. Anyone got any ideas?
[13:26] <sacarlson> gagan662_: that's why I always try to pick up nvidia equipment as it seems to have more linux support
[13:26] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: which arch?
[13:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, arch?
[13:26] <bumbar> WhereIsMySpoon: doesn't do anything, if i select any other owner than root, it instantly changes back to root
[13:26] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: i accept ur advice.next time i l'll use nvidia products ;)
[13:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, that was sacarlson actually
[13:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> but cool :)
[13:26] <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont like ati either
[13:27] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: lolz
[13:27] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: mistaken
[13:27] <gagan662_> WhereIsMySpoon: So where i get open source driver?
[13:27] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, google it
[13:28] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662_, open source drivers are usually better performance wise but can be less stable
[13:28] <sacarlson> gagan662_: the open source drivers are normaly a part of the kernel for most stuf I can think of
[13:30] <lucs> I have 'export VISUAL=vim' (and even 'export EDITOR=vim') in my ~/.zprofile, yet when I run 'sudo visudo', it uses the 'nano' editor.
[13:30] <WhereIsMySpoon> lucs - did you restart your terminal session?
[13:31] <lucs> WhereIsMySpoon: Well no, these exports are in my login profile.
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[13:31] <WhereIsMySpoon> o.o
[13:32] <lucs> WhereIsMySpoon: Was your idea that maybe the exports weren't actually set in my current terminal session?
[13:32] <WhereIsMySpoon> yes lucs
[13:33] <lucs> Ah, no luck then, they are :(
[13:33] <WhereIsMySpoon> ok then
[13:34] <lucs> WhereIsMySpoon: Could it have something to do with root's exports? After all, I am sudoing to root.
[13:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> ah
[13:34]  * lucs checks root's exports.
[13:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> then yes, root doesnt use the same exports as your normal user
[13:34] <WhereIsMySpoon> could be
[13:35] <lucs> WhereIsMySpoon: Looks promising. I'll report back on what I find.
[13:35] <WhereIsMySpoon> :D
[13:35] <Zaitzev> can someone name a decent ftp server daemon that's easy to use?
[13:36] <computer_> Really wish I could solve this issue
[13:36] <AdvoWork> anyone know why/if/how its possible to change Chrome so that it will print background colours. It appears that there is no option to do this?
[13:37] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: which arch you using?
[13:37] <sacarlson> lucs: as shown here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=804464  you can add this to ~/.bashrc   ; export EDITOR=nano
[13:37] <sacarlson> alias visudo='sudo -E visudo'   but change nano to what you want it to be
[13:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> you mean which window manager gagan662 ?
[13:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> im using xubuntu
[13:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> xfce
[13:37] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: which architecture you using?
[13:37] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh
[13:38] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: :)
[13:38] <scriptwarlock> computer_, have you filed a bug for that?
[13:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> gagan662, a really old one
[13:38] <computer_> scriptwarlock, no I haven't
[13:38] <WhereIsMySpoon> radeon hd 3450
[13:39] <computer_> scriptwarlock, Is this a new thing?
[13:39] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: i meant ubuntu x86 or x86_64?
[13:39] <computer_> scriptwarlock, I was about to upgrade to the 12.04 beta though
[13:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> x86
[13:39] <WhereIsMySpoon> why gagan662
[13:40] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: me x86_64..
[13:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> oh
[13:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> i tried linux 64bit
[13:40] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: i think this causing problem
[13:40] <WhereIsMySpoon> its still not all that stable iirc
[13:40] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: now m gonna downgrade to 11.04 x86 :(
[13:40] <pvh_sa> anyone here using ubuntu with a dell blade server (i've got a M710HD in a PowerEdge m1000e  rack enclosure). I've got it installed, trying to understand the networking
[13:41] <lucs> sacarlson: Aha. 'sudo -E visudo' did it (and exporting VISUAL=vim in root's .bashrc did nothing).
[13:41] <lucs> WhereIsMySpoon: ^^
[13:41] <gagan662> WhereIsMySpoon: actually Xubuntu( the lighter ubuntu)
[13:42] <lucs> sacarlson, WhereIsMySpoon: Thanks!
[13:42] <raven> 11.10 boot - "waiting for network configuration" takes 3 minutes idle - how to solve that?
[13:43] <scriptwarlock> computer_, not new
[13:43] <jrib> lucs: why not just change what /usr/bin/editor points to using the alternatives system?
[13:43] <dansku_> I made  distroupdate, now my ubuntu dont boot anymore, how can i try a fix without reinstalling?
[13:43] <computer_> scriptwarlock, cool, wonder why I haven't found anything googling then
[13:44] <raven> 11.10 boot - "waiting for network configuration" takes 3 minutes idle - how to solve that?
[13:45] <konza> Hi all, Is there anyone using intellij idea 11?
[13:45] <qassoom> Hello guys. Anyone with experience with Gammu-SMSd
[13:45] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Even restarting the network doesn't seem to do anything
[13:45] <sacarlson> dansku_: normaly update still keeps the older kernel as a backup you should be able to boot that in grub if that's where it gets stuck
[13:45] <gagan662> raven: wubi or external boot??
[13:45] <scriptwarlock> computer_, but rebooting works fine?
[13:45] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Yep
[13:46] <raven> gagan662 real ubuntu
[13:47] <elcot_> !ltsp
[13:47] <lucs> jrib: Hmm... That feels a bit too globalish for my taste, but thanks for pointing it out.
[13:47] <elcot_> !tftp
[13:47] <scriptwarlock> computer_, i suggest you start reporting the behaviour to launchpad
[13:47] <qassoom> Anyone with experience in Gammu guys???
[13:48] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Cool, is there already a bug report going?
[13:49] <scriptwarlock> computer_, not sure you'll be the first one if you fire up the apport-bug
[13:49] <ryannathans> I need a aacraid kernel built for 64bit and IOMUU enabled. What should I do?
[13:49] <elcot_> !nbd
[13:50] <ePax> im using ubuntu remote desktop to control another ubuntu... on bouth is swedish keboard layout... but when using remote desktop viewer im getting us keyboard... how can i correct that
[13:50] <ryannathans> ?
[13:51] <raven> 11.10 boot - "waiting for network configuration" takes 3 minutes idle - how to solve that?
[13:51] <ryannathans> raven: skip it and configure it manually
[13:52] <ryannathans> someone wrong with network connection ro there's no dhcp or something
[13:52] <gagan662> To whom i was actually talking. i forgot his name Lolz...
[13:52] <raven> ryannathans it is not necessary because all works fine after booting up
[13:53] <raven> ryannathans any way to "disable" that?
[13:53] <ryannathans> not sure, I have never looked into it, set network settings manually and it wont bother you again
[13:54] <gagan662> raven: man dont need to disable it..
[13:54] <gagan662> raven: if you skip it will be fine
[13:55] <Fyodorovna> So is HUD available in 11.10?
[13:55] <Fyodorovna> !hud
[13:55] <crizzy> major new approach.. been in os x since 10.4 :)
[13:59] <scriptwarlock> computer_, you there?
[14:00] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Yep, what's up?
[14:00] <tziOm> What is the config file for xft?
[14:00] <tziOm> I need it to listen to tcp, not only socket.
[14:00] <scriptwarlock> computer_, can you locate /etc/pm/sleep.d
[14:01] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Sure, one moment
[14:01] <Guest25456> how can i found my server is correctly dns server binding :?
[14:01] <arda> hi
[14:02] <arda> i have some problem about ubuntu any bady can help me
[14:02] <jcolbert__> that is a strange question Guest25456
[14:02] <Rabenklaue> hi, I've a problem with installing wine on precise: http://codepad.org/AfLP3k0L Does anyone have any hint how to solve the dependency issue?
[14:02] <jcolbert__> arda wats the issue?
 thank for look to me
[14:02] <arda> i want to move my home directory
[14:02] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Yep I am currently in sleep.d
[14:03] <Guest25456> how can i found my server is correctly binding :?
[14:03] <Rabenklaue> I've read here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1936014&highlight=wine+precise that it "should" work now on precise, but for me it still has the dependency mismatch thing.
[14:03] <lucs> computer_: When I count to three, you will open your eyes...
[14:03] <scriptwarlock> computer_, what was inside
[14:03] <jcolbert__> hold on a sec arda
[14:03] <Myrtti> !ubuntu+1 | Rabenklaue
[14:03] <arda> ok
[14:03] <Rabenklaue> ubottu: Oh sorry for that, thanks anyway
[14:03] <computer_> lucs: Okay, I guess
[14:04] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Three files the color of scripts
[14:04] <lucs> computer_: Better listen to scriptwarlock, not me ;)
[14:04] <scriptwarlock> computer_, you have suspend thing?
[14:04] <computer_> scriptwarlock: I guess we are wanting to look at the "novatel_3g_suspend" file
[14:05] <mi3> scriptwarlock, it uses only 30% bandwidth?
[14:05] <Ztane> strangest crash ever,
[14:05] <AdvoWork> ive just done: sudo groupadd developers  how can I add the users Test and Test1 to that group?
[14:05] <mi3> I closed that scriptwarlock
[14:05] <scriptwarlock> mi3, yes try it dont know where to pull that app but its available on ubuntu 12.04
[14:05] <trevor69420> strange i was banned on some channel but i dunno which one
[14:06] <mi3> scriptwarlock I use ubuntu 11.04 will it work?
[14:06] <trevor69420> arda: it's jcolbert sorry to change my nick
[14:06] <Ztane> unity became unresponsive, but console login worked. Metacity and gnome-settings-daemon used 100 % cpu each, but each one had mapped 543 GIGABYTES of virtual memory?!?! wtf??!
[14:06] <arda> ok
[14:06] <trevor69420> u said you want to move your home directory right?
[14:06] <arda> yes
[14:06] <scriptwarlock> mi3, find the ppa
[14:06] <mi3> ok
[14:07] <arcnewuss> I only get basic font and I have no icon in application such as firefox and thunar.
[14:07] <mi3> uses 30%bandwidth? that sounds gr8!! scriptwarlock
[14:07] <trevor69420> arda i believe you can do a sudo usermod -d /path/to/new/home -m
[14:07] <arda> İ try this
[14:07] <trevor69420> i've never done it arda but supposedly that command will copy all your files from your current one
[14:07] <regetomek> Hello, guys
[14:07] <trevor69420> guy? where?
[14:07] <trevor69420> guys*
[14:07] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Yes there is a file named "novaltel_3g_suspend"
[14:08] <arda> i will back you
[14:08] <scriptwarlock> computer_, was making some script just a workaround
[14:08] <arda> so thanks
[14:08] <trevor69420> let me know if it works arda
[14:08] <regetomek> :)
[14:09] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Cool thanks, I am just looking at the suspend script
[14:09] <regetomek> libnotify have one type of notification or few types??
[14:09] <computer_> scriptwarlock: If there is something I can type manually I don't mind
[14:10] <arcnewuss> my window manager handles fonts improperly
[14:10] <raven> 11.10 boot - "waiting for network configuration" takes 3 minutes idle - how to solve that?
[14:12] <regetomek> disable network in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:12] <regetomek> so what with this notify-send
[14:13] <pedrocr> how do I disable or set a very low timeout on ssh/gpg key passphrase storage?
[14:13] <pedrocr> they seem to be stored per session which is insecure for a machine that's actually a VM and gets suspended to disk instead of logged off
[14:13] <arcnewuss> do i need to check xorg to have fonts working properly
[14:13] <arcnewuss> What files does ubuntu refer to in a vanilla install when starting X
[14:14] <pedrocr> seahorse used to have that setting but not anymore
[14:14] <Zaitzev> how do I enable java in google chrome? I've installed openjdk-7-jre
[14:14] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Oh I get it now
[14:14] <scriptwarlock> computer_, wat is it
[14:15] <AdvoWork> i've got a folder than was root:root called testing.  I made a new group called Developers and then i've added 2 users to that group. I've then done sudo chgrp developers testing and testing/*  so now all files show root:testing but my 2 users still can't upload files. Any ideas please?
[14:15] <computer_> scriptwarlock: I was just looking at the suspend script that is in that folder and it has nothing to do with my situation
[14:16] <computer_> scriptwarlock: I don't mind restarting things manually after suspend to get the wired network to work I just need to know what to restart
[14:16] <scriptwarlock> computer_, of course but making a script that can restart your network hardware is what i mean
[14:17] <trevor69420> advowork sorry? is this FTP?
[14:18] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Sure I just wonder why the things I have tried have not worked
[14:18] <AdvoWork> trevor69420, yeah, ive logged in as one of my users fine, try and upload/overwrite the file and says permission denied
[14:18] <scriptwarlock> computer_, maybe sometimes hardware are not good in handling the hibernate
[14:18] <trevor69420> advowork they need to have write permissions on the folder
[14:18] <trevor69420> not just FTP permissions
[14:19] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Yes I figured this must be the case
[14:19] <scriptwarlock> computer_, can you sudo lsmod
[14:19] <computer_> scriptwarlock: Sure, one moment
[14:20] <regetomek> http://askubuntu.com/questions/110837/how-to-hide-error-messages-automaticly-in-libnotify-in-gnome-shell
[14:20] <AdvoWork> trevor69420, what do I need to change then?