[06:37] <slashx1896> mustard5, i dont remember if i got it or not
[06:37] <senectus> Fujitsu, can you show me an example
[06:38] <mustard5> slashx1896, type about:plugins in your firefox address bar and look for javaplugin
[06:38] <chaumurky> Fujitsu, (OT) how do you do that 3rd person thingy?
[06:38] <slashx1896> i dont use firefox.. it wont let me ever since i got mediaconnectivy or something
[06:38] <Fujitsu> senectus: scp /path/to/some/file username@host:/path/to/put/it
[06:38] <slashx1896> i use epiphany
[06:38] <senectus> Fujitsu, sweet thanks man
[06:38] <mustard5> slashx1896, k
[06:39] <mustard5> slashx1896, well i will show you a link to install anyway :)
[06:39] <mustard5> !javadeb
[06:39] <ubotu> somebody said javadebs was Sun Java debs packaged for breezy are at http://www.giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ To install these, open a terminal, cd to the directory you downloaded them to, and type "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[06:39] <intelikey> linux_n00b_e "sid"  you got debian sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[06:39] <slashx1896> whenever i load firefox it doesnt a mediaplayerconnectivty wizard thing, i hit next and then it freazes and exits
[06:39] <DeezNuts> Thanks for your help with mp3's!
[06:39] <linux_n00b_e> I don't know...
[06:39] <mustard5> slashx1896, read stuff that ubotu said above
[06:39] <slashx1896> i know
[06:39] <slashx1896> just sein if i can get both problems fixed ;)
[06:40] <mustard5> slashx1896, what media player you using?
[06:40] <slashx1896> mplayer
[06:40] <mustard5> slashx1896, so did you try getting rid of totem as default?
[06:40] <Madpilot> if I'm burning .flac files onto an audio CD w/ k3b, do I have to explicitly convert them to .wav first, or will k3b handle that when I hit the Burn button?
[06:40] <slashx1896> i think i did
[06:40] <viperX> I'm clueless to whole Debian thing.
[06:40] <slashx1896> i have java
[06:40] <mustard5> slashx1896, I would think there are still references to totem in firefox then
[06:41] <slashx1896> mustard5, so what do i do?
[06:41] <intelikey> viperX check your sources against the list
[06:41] <defendguin> wow the mozilla.org build of firefox is like 3 times faster than the ubuntu build
[06:41] <mustard5> slashx1896, I'm not sure..I've seen someone with the answer in here once..but I don't recall what it was
[06:41] <slashx1896> o
[06:41] <viperX> How do i accomplish that?
[06:41] <defendguin> how did that happen
[06:42] <intelikey> viperX lists at  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[06:42] <mustard5> slashx1896, you could try a search on ubuntuforums.org
[06:43] <viperX> What do i do if there are differences?
[06:43] <slashx1896> How do i install limewiere? wine?
[06:43] <coz> Hello all
[06:43] <cafuego> limewire is a java app, no windows shite required.
[06:43] <intelikey> you can use 'sudo apt-setup '  and choose manually edit viperX and fix it.
[06:43] <coz> all of a sudden I have a problem with xchat
[06:43] <slashx1896> oh cause i saw a .exe
[06:44] <viperX> ok
[06:44] <coz> normally I just go to freenode, under server join channel type it in and I am here
[06:44] <cafuego> slashx1896: Yes, that's how windows installs it.
[06:44] <coz> now, I go to sever it only says connect or disconnect and it tells that Nick something or other is already taken
[06:44] <mustard5> slashx1896, no..there should be a linux install of some kind there
[06:45] <viperX> When i run apt-get update, that will automatically install the updates right?
[06:45] <tonyyarusso> slashx1896: By mediaconnectivity do you mean the extension?  Because you can probably still disable that, right?  Otherwise, I had to remove references to Totem a few days ago in FF1.5.
[06:45] <walkingice> viperX: no
[06:45] <oxez> viperX: it updates your repos iirc
[06:45] <walkingice> viperX:  apt-get update  just update your source.list
[06:45] <mustard5> viperX, that updates the package lists only
[06:45] <holycow> oh man
[06:45] <slashx1896> yeah the extension i need it for my vids
[06:46] <intelikey> viperX if you run apt-setup it will automaticly update when you finish editing the sources list.
[06:46] <viperX> OH...... ;)
[06:46] <holycow> i'm addicted to the stumbleupon extension for firefox
[06:46] <holycow> its like the 'good' filter for the net
[06:46] <walkingice> viperX:  apt-get upgrade   :
[06:46] <viperX> aHHHHH
[06:46] <holycow> i think i will haveto actually uninstall that that extension
[06:47] <intelikey> walkingice no viperX has deb sources he needs to get rid of.
[06:47] <holycow> but only after a few more clicks
[06:47] <slashx1896> Wait so how do i install limewire?
[06:47] <holycow> -_-
[06:47] <defendguin> hmmm probably because it was built without gtk support
[06:47] <viperX> MAN I HAVE SO MUCH STUFF TO LEARN!!!!!! ;)
[06:47] <slashx1896> viperx, join the club
[06:47] <slashx1896> lol
[06:47] <viperX> lol
[06:48] <andrew_> Im having trouble with Firefox - it wont let me type in it, in the location bar or in any form elements
[06:48] <slashx1896> mustard5, whats the linux install file look like?
[06:48] <walkingice> @o@
[06:48] <intelikey> crawl first.  then walk.
[06:48] <andrew_> Ive restarted it, same trouble
[06:48] <holycow> viperX, you know, even after one has worked in the field for years and years, one still feels that way
[06:48] <mustard5> slashx1896, its here http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther
[06:48] <andrew_> And obviously, I can type in other apps ;P
[06:48] <viperX> I just installed pear pc. gonna try to get that up and running...
[06:48] <slashx1896> viperx, i just started notto long ago, and  im doin good
[06:48] <slashx1896> mustard5, i got that
[06:48] <andrew_> Anyone know what could cause that?
[06:48] <mustard5> slashx1896, there should be a README file inside the zip
[06:48] <slashx1896> mustard5, good idea
[06:49] <slashx1896> ;)
[06:49] <slashx1896> lol
[06:49] <Topazworm> Hi there. Can anyone help me with some ubuntu problems? I just installed it today
[06:49] <ejofee> anybody know who (nicks) are more or less directly responsible for which packages are included in the ubuntu repositories?
[06:49] <mustard5> andrew_, mine does the same thing occassionally
[06:49] <intelikey> !firefox15
[06:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, firefox15 is see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[06:49] <intelikey> andrew_ ^
[06:49] <holycow> Topazworm, just ask dude
[06:50] <mustard5> andrew_, I find opening a terminal and tapping away on the keys and then coming back to firefox sometimes works
[06:50] <andrew_> mustard5, Ill give that a go
[06:50] <mustard5> andrew_, firefox has been nothing but trouble for me lately
[06:50] <andrew_> intelikey, does 1.5 fix that bug?
[06:50] <Topazworm> Well i think ive screwed up my firefox. I tried (badly) to install 1.5, not having a clue what i was doing and now i cant run it. Ive tried removing and unstilling but nothing!
[06:50] <intelikey> supposed to
[06:50] <holycow> mustard5, that doesnt sound like a firefox bug, that sounds like you hosed something
[06:50] <intelikey> i can't answer personally.
[06:50] <slashx1896> limewier is installing :D
[06:50] <andrew_> ahh, but it is/was an identified bug?
[06:51] <mustard5> holycow, well i don't know about that...I can't see how I hosed it
[06:51] <intelikey> i don't use ff or ub.
[06:51] <holycow> mustard5, thats what everyone says
[06:51] <intelikey> andrew_ yes methinks so
[06:51] <coag> hmmmm
[06:51] <holycow> Topazworm, be more specific please
[06:51] <coag> what are some fps's that i can apt-get to play?
[06:51] <holycow> what problems are  you having now exactly?
[06:52] <ejofee> anybody here?
[06:52] <holycow> coag, say what? english please
[06:52] <coag> holycow: sorry shooter type games
[06:52] <Topazworm> i downloaded a scipt which claimed it could install firefox 1.5. i ran it, errors came up. When i tried to run firefox, nothing. So i used the package manager to completely remove firefox. then i reinstalled it from my ubuntu cd. But it still doesnt run.
[06:52] <mustard5> coag, none it apt-get that I know of
[06:52] <coag> holycow: "first person shooter" though that was common knowledge :P
[06:52] <holycow> not sure, start up synaptic and go through the games in the games section
[06:52] <rafx> apt-get install call-of-duty2 -- enjoy
[06:53] <locomorto> lol rafx
[06:53] <holycow> Topazworm, you cannot use package manager to uninstall SOMETHING YOU TRIED TO INSTALL OUTSIDE THE PACKAGE MANAGER
[06:53] <coag> i fell for it!
[06:53] <rafx> its my favorite game using ssh and ascii art
[06:53] <slashx1896> ok now that limewiere is installed, i have it ran rite now, but how do i run it in the future>
[06:53] <Topazworm> well i know that now mate. Im totally new to linux, never used it before today
[06:53] <holycow> Topazworm, delete all instances of firefox on your system and then instal ff once again
[06:54] <slashx1896> brb
[06:54] <locomorto> is it just me or is www.ubuntuforums.org down?
[06:54] <holycow> Topazworm, emphasis is there purely for your informational purposes, not an insult :)
[06:54] <ejofee> Topazworm: if you are totally new to linux, you shouldn't use ubuntu first
[06:54] <holycow> ejofee, don't be dumb, what should he use then?
[06:54] <ejofee> Topazworm: use kubuntu first :)
[06:54] <mettallicat> lockhead, up here
[06:54] <Topazworm> kubuntu?
[06:54] <locomorto> :|
[06:54] <locomorto> kubuntu can be confusing at times
[06:55] <locomorto> but so can vanila ubuntu
[06:55] <ejofee> holycow: kubuntu, as i said
[06:55] <locomorto> So..
[06:55] <holycow> that is dumb, Topazworm don't listen to him, just use ubuntu for now and try other stuff later
[06:55] <mettallicat> ejofee, why kubuntu
[06:55] <coag> aha!
[06:55] <coag> well i found quake2
[06:55] <ejofee> holycow: why would you think ubuntu is better?
[06:55] <intelikey> ejofee lol
[06:55] <locomorto> Whichever you choose is cool :)
[06:55] <slashx1896> nvm back
[06:55] <slashx1896> SO how do i run limewire in the future?
[06:55] <ejofee> mettallicat: usually kde impresses the windows newcomer
[06:55] <mustard5> coag, you need to own the quake2 CD to use that
[06:55] <locomorto> Ok, can anyone goto www.ubuntuforums.org?
[06:55] <holycow> ejofee, you are confusing him, and not offering any usefull information just to convince someone to use your fav desktop
[06:55] <mustard5> coag, it requires files from the CD
[06:55] <Topazworm> I have no clue how to use linux. Ivew been used to windows. So i thought i need firefox 1.5 i downloaded it from the website and tried to install. I iddnt know i am supposed to use the package manager.
[06:55] <Hobbsee> locomorto: yep
[06:55] <Drako> can anyone tell me how to do widescreen tv-out?
[06:55] <slashx1896> i just exited out of terminal and limewire exited o.O
[06:55] <holycow> Topazworm, won't gain a single thing from using kde
[06:55] <mettallicat> ejofee, KDE sucks hard and most of my students like more gnome
[06:56] <holycow> he just wants to learn
[06:56] <coag> mustard5: it's open source
[06:56] <ejofee> holycow: i agree
[06:56] <locomorto> Hobbsee: it works for you?
[06:56] <Hobbsee> locomorto: yes
[06:56] <locomorto> :/
[06:56] <syntaxerror64> locomorto, it's www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:56] <holycow> Topazworm, it's okay, it's free you can screw it up and start over if you need to :)
[06:56] <mettallicat> if we want to learn gnome is tha best
[06:56] <intelikey> ejofee ubuntu is ubuntu  whether it has kde gnome xfce fluxbox what ever or no gui at all......   hehhe
[06:56] <locomorto> syntaxerror64: ah there the same :)
[06:56] <holycow> Topazworm, if you want to browse, why not install another browser in the man time while you figure this out
[06:56] <Topazworm> i guess. so how do i fix this problem? bearing in mind, ive tried uninstalling it already
[06:56] <syntaxerror64> locomorto, i am reading some HOWTO files there right now and it seems to be working fine
[06:56] <slashx1896> mustard5, how come when i close terminal limewiere closes?
[06:57] <holycow> Topazworm, try installing epiphany-browser, its pretty good
[06:57] <mustard5> slashx1896, because you ran it from terminal?
[06:57] <mettallicat> well time to get some sleep _D
[06:57] <syntaxerror64> locomorto, yes i'm sorry i read it wrong i thought you put ".com"
[06:57] <Topazworm> whats the command for that one
[06:57] <slashx1896> o.o thats what the readme said
[06:57] <slashx1896> how do i run it otherwise
[06:57] <holycow> Topazworm, install something else first so you can google up an answer and the related skills you will need to fix it
[06:57] <holycow> Topazworm, forget commands for now
[06:57] <syntaxerror64> can't you just go to synpatic package manager, remove firefox 1.0.7 and then just reinstall it
[06:57] <ejofee> intelikey: indeed. that's the very reason why i tried it as a joke. however, now i understand that i might have created some confusion.
[06:57] <holycow> Topazworm, open up synaptic from system / admin /synaptic
[06:57] <holycow> use that for now and make your life easy
[06:58] <holycow> you can fix firefox later
[06:58] <slashx1896> nvm
[06:58] <coag> how do you uninstall something you installed through apt?
[06:58] <mustard5> slashx1896, you worked it out?
[06:58] <Topazworm> ok
[06:58] <Hobbsee> coag: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[06:58] <holycow> coag, you can uninstall it via synaptic if you want
[06:58] <holycow> or what Hobbsee said
[06:58] <intelikey> coag with apt
[06:58] <coag> holycow: command line takes less time :P
[06:58] <Topazworm> k installing now
[06:59] <holycow> Topazworm, use synaptic to explore the software, it will keep you safe for the first bit
[06:59] <slashx1896> i just ran the runlime.sh file, then hit run
[06:59] <Topazworm> ok well i need help with one more thing. if you dont mind
[06:59] <holycow> Topazworm, after a while you can add repositories to synaptic to expand the total amount of software available via synaptic to about 16 000
[06:59] <holycow> Topazworm, when you don't find something in a repo, then start exploring command line bit by bit :)
[07:00] <holycow> hopefully you find that approach helpfull
[07:00] <mustard5> slashx1896, you could add it to you menu using the menu editor in breezy
[07:00] <Topazworm> Well at the moment i need help accesses my 2nd physical ntfs drive. I want to play my mp3's
[07:00] <slashx1896> wat menu editor?  llol
[07:00] <intelikey> !ntfs
[07:00] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[07:00] <holycow> Topazworm, you will need to edit your /etc/fstab file for that, however, why not pull it out and put it in a usb cradle?  it will automatically have a shortcut created to it on your desktop
[07:01] <Topazworm> usb cradle? i dont have one of those
[07:01] <holycow> okay then what you will need to google is the following:
[07:01] <ejofee> "<locomorto> kubuntu can be confusing at times" -- in which way?
[07:01] <holycow> a) fdisk -l
[07:01] <holycow> b) /etc/fstab
[07:01] <mustard5> slashx1896, look in Applications>>System tools if you are on breezy
[07:01] <holycow> c) how to mount ntfs partition in linux
[07:01] <locomorto> ejofee: heaps of options
[07:02] <holycow> lots of info that
[07:02] <slashx1896> kk
[07:02] <locomorto> ejofee: I'm not saying gnome has it right either
[07:02] <intelikey> or look at the link ubotu said ^
[07:02] <Topazworm> ill have a lookie..
[07:02] <holycow> d) make sure to add the word 'breezy' in your searches, you will get more hits on wiki.ubuntulinux.org
[07:02] <ejofee> locomorto: and what is vanilla ubuntu? (i am a newbye to (k)ubuntu myself)
[07:02] <locomorto> ejofee: Its just that sometimes they get a bit excessive
[07:02] <locomorto> ejofee: ubuntu without anything else installed (eg kde)
[07:02] <holycow> kde is for power user, they dump everything up front for you, it completely overwhelms the user
[07:03] <holycow> it is NOT the right way to intro most users, only those with highly technically oriented minds
[07:03] <ejofee> locomorto: i thought every ubuntu was without kde...
[07:03] <bcl> does anyone have a solution for the transcode libgcc1 conflict issue?
[07:03] <locomorto> ejofee: ya, but you can install it
[07:03] <locomorto> vanilla means plain
[07:03] <locomorto> like nothing added on
[07:03] <holycow> make it simple for newbs, give them synaptic, and a few commands for a while and let them muck about
[07:03] <intelikey> ty holycow i'm flattered.
[07:03] <ejofee> locomorto: oh, the vanilla refuses to install kde?!
[07:03] <locomorto> no
[07:03] <locomorto> :|
[07:04] <rafx> ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde
[07:04] <ejofee> locomorto: then i still don't understand the differences between ubuntu and vanilla.
[07:04] <locomorto> lol
[07:04] <locomorto> ok
[07:04] <intelikey> kde is the only desktop that makes linux work.  gnome lets it idle too much.
[07:04] <chaumurky> nirc rocks!!
[07:04] <rafx> and then there's Ubuntu for Servers
[07:04] <locomorto> * vanilla = * without anything else added on/installed/tweaked etc
[07:05] <ejofee> intelikey: i bet that is an irony :P
[07:05] <intelikey> kde = right click everything.
[07:05] <rafx> like MS Windows?
[07:05] <intelikey> ejofee in part maybe.....
[07:05] <ejofee> locomorto: oh, i see... but who would want something like vanilla?
[07:05] <Topazworm> Im fed up with this
[07:05] <ejofee> Topazworm: with what?
[07:06] <locomorto> ejofee: I was using it as a basis of comparison
[07:06] <ejofee> locomorto: oh, ok
[07:06] <Topazworm> It shouldnt be god damn rocket science to get ONE hard drive to work. Ive tried scripts and codes and nothing!
[07:06] <intelikey> !start a desktop war
[07:06] <ubotu> blackbox is much better than xfce!
[07:06] <holycow> Topazworm, it's not, the automatic code for mounting hd's on your ide chain is simply not there as of today
[07:06] <oxez> if I decide to use openbox3 as my window manager in gnome, will the right click on the desktop will bring me the current thing, with 'Change background, create folder etc..' or the ob3 menu?
[07:06] <chaumurky> other bots are better than ......
[07:06] <intelikey> hmmm i said
[07:06] <intelikey> !start a desktop war
[07:07] <ejofee> ubotu: right, but icewm is better than both :P
[07:07] <ubotu> ejofee: what are you talking about?
[07:07] <intelikey> lol
[07:07] <holycow> Topazworm, a: wait for next release b: add a line in /etc/fstab its simple and a skill you should have c: get a usb cradle d: and well okay use windows or mac if you like
[07:07] <chaumurky> i like ncurses
[07:07] <Topazworm> Firefox is knackered, i cant access my ntfs drive for my files, and my 2 partitioned drives i cant access because it tells me "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hdb5"." ARGH
[07:07] <holycow> a) you hosed your own firefox install
[07:07] <mustard5> Topazworm, there is a script that can do the mounting for you and make the fstab entries
[07:08] <holycow> b) you are the one that doesn't want to learn how to mount drives
[07:08] <rafx> i like icewm too. haven't bothered with gnome or kde yet.  most of my work is in ssh clients anyway so it doesn't matter
[07:08] <holycow> what can i tell you? you can't expect to use a tool and not actually learn new skills
[07:08] <mustard5> holycow, I don't think your being helpful
[07:08] <ejofee> rafx: yeah, i very much like icewm / dfm combination
[07:08] <chaumurky> hey, should I turn 'unmaskirq' on for my DVD burner in hdparm.conf ??
[07:08] <Topazworm> Mates its 2005/06, i souldnt have to type lines of code in to get my drive to work
[07:08] <chaumurky> is it safe?
[07:09] <holycow> Topazworm, i told you your options, being that this is open source and you didn't pay a dime for 16 000 applications at your hands with the click of a mouse ...
[07:09] <holycow> ... the general expectation is that one either contributes the missing piece or waits until someone does
[07:09] <holycow> *cough*
[07:09] <chaumurky> !hdparm
[07:09] <ejofee> Topazworm: you mean the only problem is you don't want to mount drives?
[07:09] <ubotu> chaumurky: Wish i knew
[07:09] <chaumurky> bugger
[07:09] <chaumurky> ahem... bottoms
[07:09] <mustard5> chaumurky, you trying to set up dma?
[07:10] <Topazworm> Not the only problem. Its not like i dont want to, it just wont.
[07:10] <chaumurky> no
[07:10] <ejofee> Topazworm: what does it say?
[07:10] <chaumurky> i want to know if it's a good idea to turn on 'unmaskirq' for my dvd burner
[07:10] <mustard5> Topazworm, if you want to come to a quieter chat room I can show you how to mount your ntfs drives
[07:10] <Topazworm> I tried running a script and it doesnt find my ntfs drive
[07:10] <Topazworm> alright mate
[07:10] <mustard5> Topazworm, join #kubuntu-offtopic if you want help
[07:10] <holycow> you don't run a script to mount a drive
[07:11] <Hobbsee> there is a script that you can holycow
[07:12] <chaumurky> apparently: "Enabling unmasking lets Linux unmask other interrupts while handling a disk interrupt, allowing your system to do other similar tasks at the same time and should improve overall system response time."
[07:13] <holycow> Hobbsee, *nod* i'm simply not convinced that people who get everything for free should refuse to google and learn new things
[07:13] <Hobbsee> well, true, maybe - point them to ubuntu wiki then - there's heaps of stuff there that is known to be correct
[07:14] <chaumurky> !unmaskirq
[07:14] <ubotu> chaumurky: I don't know
[07:16] <holycow> Hobbsee, it's not so much as that even, it is the insinuation that somethign that is created by volunteers must somehow live up to their expectations
[07:17] <holycow> without them putting even in a bit of effort with a search engine
[07:22] <Madpilot> how do I get k3b to stop putting that irritating little blue progress box on top of everything?
[07:22] <holycow> Madpilot, a non answer might be to suggest using gnome baker ... not sure if kde gives you that granular control over apps
[07:23] <Madpilot> holycow: gnomebaker only burns coasters for me :|
[07:23] <Madpilot> k3b burns good discs, but it's got some really dumb defaults
[07:24] <holycow> i figured you had a reson for using that, not sure gnome baker works for me, although i have mostly just used nautilus as a frontend for that
[07:24] <Stampertje> can anyone help me ? i've just installed ubuntu for the first time and can't manage to set res. higher then 640x480 :(
[07:24] <holycow> Stampertje, ubuntu does have an app for checking monitor resolution capabilities but it still fails sometimes ...
[07:24] <Madpilot> I'm burning audio CDs, and Serpentine seems to produce coasters about 50% of the time; so far k3b has been good, but slower than Serpentine...
[07:25] <monkeyface> hi
[07:25] <Stampertje> i've tried that holycow
[07:25] <holycow> ... that means you will haveto add yoru monitors horizontal and vertical refresh rates in /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[07:25] <holycow> i know i wasn't finished
[07:25] <monkeyface> i was wondering how would i update ubuntu
[07:25] <Stampertje> but it doesn't allow me to turn it on higher
[07:25] <Stampertje> ah right
[07:25] <Stampertje> :)
[07:25] <monkeyface> because i have horay hedge hog
[07:25] <Madpilot> !upgrade
[07:25] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:25] <Madpilot> monkeyface: see ubotu ^^^
[07:25] <monkeyface> ty
[07:26] <Stampertje> well i thought it was because of my vid card since it sux :D
[07:26] <Stampertje> nvidia riva tnt2
[07:26] <holycow> you will haveto google up your model to find the refresh rates (unless they are on the back) buty then all you need to do is put them in xorg.conf and logout and log back in to restart x (or do ctrl / alt / backspace)
[07:26] <holycow> Stampertje, no, even the cheapest vid card can do 1600x1200
[07:26] <Stampertje> nah this one can't
[07:26] <Stampertje> well maybe
[07:27] <Stampertje> it didn't on windows
[07:27] <Stampertje> :p
[07:27] <kestas> not all vid cards can do high resolutions
[07:27] <holycow> i bet it can, if you put it on a monitor that supports that res
[07:27] <Stampertje> yes ofcourse
[07:27] <Stampertje> but not with my compaq presario monitor which i ripped from an old pc :p
[07:27] <holycow> therein lies your answer
[07:27] <oxez> how would I remove borders for a specific app on gnome?
[07:27] <Stampertje> hehe ;)
[07:28] <kestas> this also isnt about refresh rates
[07:28] <holycow> oxez, you can't unless the app is coded to allow for that
[07:28] <kestas> just entering in the res you want into xorg.conf for your depth will probably do
[07:28] <Stampertje> probably
[07:28] <Stampertje> :)
[07:28] <holycow> Stampertje, don't listen to kestas
[07:28] <holycow> it IS ABOUT REFRESH RATES
[07:28] <oxez> holycow: do you know a terminal that would allow me? I'm thinking of aterm/eterm etc
[07:28] <kestas> unless its a driver problem
[07:28] <Stampertje> no doesn't matter much i think
[07:28] <holycow> refresh rates are what give you the resolution space of a monitor spec
[07:29] <Stampertje> i don't think it can go higher then 60hz
[07:29] <Stampertje> :D
[07:29] <monkeyface> thanks
[07:29] <holycow> oxez, nothing rings a bell i'm afraid
[07:29] <Stampertje> hmm
[07:29] <Fujitsu> Refresh rates do not control resolution!
[07:29] <Stampertje> maybe you know this aswell..
[07:30] <oxez> holycow: I know that with fluxbox I was able to do that easily, but I'd like to stick with metacity, I just like it :/
[07:30] <holycow> refresh rates control possible resolution space
[07:30] <Fujitsu> Resolution dictates certain refresh rates
[07:30] <andrew_> I just followed that wiki guide to installing firefox 1.5 for ubuntu, now Im getting a nasty error : /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:30] <Stampertje> i need an ftp client that can support fxp transfers
[07:30] <Stampertje> but not command line
[07:30] <Fujitsu> holycow, what is your definition of 'resolution space'
[07:30] <Fujitsu> andrew_: install the package libstdc++5
[07:30] <paulgroovy> hi, I'm new and need some help
[07:30] <Fujitsu> andrew_, it says that you need it at the top of the wiki.
[07:30] <Fujitsu> What, paulgroovy?
[07:30] <paulgroovy> hi fujitsu
[07:31] <Fujitsu> Hi paulgroovy.
[07:31] <holycow> paulgroovy, just ask
[07:31] <andrew_> ahh, missed that
[07:31] <andrew_> Thanks Fuji
[07:31] <kestas> Stampertje, try sudo sed -i -b .bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf -e 's/Modes\t"/Modes\t"1024x768"\t"/'
[07:31] <paulgroovy> I need help with a wireless 802.11 wireless internet card on my laptop
[07:31] <Stampertje> i don't want that mode
[07:31] <Stampertje> but i'll change
[07:31] <Stampertje> thanks kestas
[07:31] <holycow> paulgroovy, okay, what kind do you have, what chipset does it have
[07:31] <Fujitsu> paulgroovy, what kind?
[07:32] <paulgroovy> ok, i have a dlink airplusxtreme G108
[07:32] <paulgroovy> dwl-g650
[07:33] <paulgroovy> I was told i should have the orinico chipset, but how can i tell if the card has that?
[07:33] <holycow> i'm looking for a page on that, there was a really good wiki page on supported cards and techniques you need for resolving issues
[07:33] <andrew_> Gah! Still having the same problem I had with 1.07
[07:33] <holycow> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards?highlight=%28card%29%7C%28wireless%29%7C%28support%29
[07:34] <andrew_> Firefox doesnt respond to keystrokes, in the address bar, or in any form elements
[07:35] <andrew_> Anyone know anything about this problem?
[07:35] <holycow> i've only seen that problem on pages where flash steals mouse focus
[07:36] <holycow> andrew_, just out of curiosity, have you tried downloading 1.5 tar.gz, extracting to a temp dir and running binary directly from that? i'm curious if that has the same issue
[07:36] <paulgroovy> ok, I seem to have the intel chipset
[07:36] <mcjerry> i upgraded to dapper and now have problems with twinhan dvb card.....can anyone help?????
[07:36] <andrew_> holycow,  nope, Ill give it a go tho
[07:36] <Stampertje> is there some way to get out of gnome and see only a shell or smth without rebooting ?
[07:37] <holycow> ctrl / alt / f1 would be one way Stampertje
[07:37] <Stampertje> oki thanks :)
[07:37] <Stampertje> bbl to try all the things out
[07:40] <mcjerry> after upgrading to dapper, my twinhan dvb-s card does not work,,,,after upgrade, it still worked with previous kernel.....what do i need to do
[07:41] <holycow> mcjerry, submit a bug, talk with devs about tracking it down.  DapperDrake is a work in progress, generally helping out with a debian type of distro results in waiting a week or two, updating and problem going away magically
[07:41] <cafuego> stop upgrading when there is no need to.
[07:41] <cafuego> See also rule #1.
[07:41] <mcjerry> holycow, how submit a bug?
[07:42] <Madpilot> mcjerry: www.launchpad.net/malone/
[07:42] <holycow> http://bugzilla.ubuntulinux.org/
[07:42] <Madpilot> https://launchpad.net/malone/distros/ubuntu actually
[07:42] <ajmitch> Madpilot: preferably bugzilla for now
[07:42] <CrimsonKing> if i was missing a script that should be in init.d (imapd, specifically) whats my best way of hunting down the missing script?
[07:43] <bcl> CrimsonKing, locate imapd
[07:43] <Madpilot> ajmitch: OK, I thought everything was switching to lauchpad/malone?
[07:43] <ajmitch> Madpilot: eventually.. :)
[07:43] <holycow> what is this launchpad nonsense?
[07:43] <cafuego> Well well, why does that gentleman have the same KeyID as me?
[07:43] <ajmitch> holycow: nonsense?
[07:43] <CrimsonKing> bcl: yea i've got the bin, but not the init script for it
[07:44] <holycow> since when is ubuntu using random urls for things like bug trackers?
[07:44] <CrimsonKing> the package is installed, got the configs too, but no init.d
[07:44] <andrew_> holycow, same issue run straight from the bin
[07:44] <bcl> CrimsonKing, may be in /usr/share/doc/imapd or similar
[07:44] <ajmitch> holycow: because canonical develops launchpad?
[07:44] <Madpilot> holycow: it's not...
[07:44] <holycow> ajmitch, oh launchpad is that project ... odd.  so what does bugzilla serve then?
[07:45] <ajmitch> holycow: bugzilla is what we use until malone is ready - malone is designed to be multiple distro, upstream, etc
[07:45] <holycow> ajmitch, ah, so how is the transition being handled, everyune is being asked to use malone or ... ?
[07:45] <ajmitch> holycow: when malone is ready
[07:45] <CrimsonKing> bcl: no really dude, its not just missplaced, its not on the computer
[07:46] <ajmitch> holycow: malone has been in use for quite awhile for universe
[07:46] <holycow> ajmitch, so bugzilla is the official one then?  why are you guys suggesting the use of malone then?
[07:46] <CrimsonKing> i will look up how to peak inside of a .deb and get a list of installed files
[07:46] <ajmitch> holycow: I just said that bugzilla was preferred. I didn't suggest the use of malone for filing bugs in main
[07:47] <holycow> andrew_, that makes no sense ... perhaps an extension is causing that somewhere?  the best i think i can do is recommend removing all extensions, and perhaps moving your .mozilla dir somewhere else just to make sure ?
[07:47] <Madpilot> ajmitch: that's the current split, then? Malone for Universe, bugzilla.u.c for main?
[07:47] <B-166_ER-X> how do i list the online users ?
[07:47] <CrimsonKing> ahh, i might just have cyrus-imapd installed when i'm supposed to have cyrus21-imapd....
[07:47] <holycow> ajmitch, *nod* i'm curious, nothing worse than giving people wrong info
[07:47] <Xenguy> B-166_ER-X: w
[07:47] <holycow> ill stick to recommending bugzilla then until otherwise requested to do so
[07:47] <ajmitch> Madpilot: generally, that's how it is.. some other stuff is using malone
[07:47] <cedric> hi! id like to listen to .mpg videos.. but i hate wincodec what should i do then
[07:47] <CrimsonKing> thats -uh- intuitive
[07:48] <Xenguy> who
[07:48] <holycow> CrimsonKing, the problem with "intuitive" is that it is relative
[07:48] <B-166_ER-X> offtopic ?
[07:49] <andrew_> Restarted gnome and its all good again
[07:49] <andrew_> Hope this doesnt happen often :/
[07:49] <holycow> :) simple
[07:49] <Xenguy> Stability is assumed :-)
[07:49] <CrimsonKing> holycow: yea i dig that, but you it still sucks when you spend a big chunk of time looking for something to find out the solution is as simple as this :}
[07:50] <johnw> anyone know good fastcgi tutorials?
[07:50] <nekostar> dam u ubuntu and your crappy dual audio support
[07:50] <holycow> CrimsonKing, indeed :) the terrible thing is that as one gets more knowledgeable about a particular area, you forget that for others it is not obvious at all
[07:50] <chris86wm> hey guys, i am trying to share a folder from my windows computer with ubuntu. i have both of them hooked up through a router, but ubuntu doesnt seem to see the windows computer on the network. is there something special that needs to be done in order to view the shared windows folder?
[07:50] <Xenguy> the community can be a big help :-)
[07:51] <qt2> err, someone i'm trying to allow remote desktop access to me is trying to get a conection, but cant...
[07:51] <qt2> can someone ghere try and vnc me and see if they get a password prompt? :o
[07:52] <chris86wm> any ideas guys, i can ping the windows computer from ubuntu....
[07:52] <holycow> chris86wm, by default ubuntu should be able to see all windows machines on a network, first question to ask is do you have something like firestarter firewall (iptables frontend) on ubuntu, or a firewall of some sort on the windows box preventing broadcasting on the network?
[07:52] <Stampertje> kestas i don't know what happened but i didn't do anything and now i can set resolution and hertz lol
[07:52] <Stampertje> using the program
[07:53] <Stampertje> maybe because i installed nvidia-glx
[07:53] <chris86wm> holycow> no
[07:53] <cedric> hi! id like to listen to .mpg videos.. but i hate wincodec what should i do then
[07:53] <Stampertje> and i didn't reboot for it
[07:53] <Stampertje> but now i did
[07:53] <Stampertje> so next question.. anyone know where i can set hosts manually like in windows hosts file ?
[07:54] <chris86wm> holycow> i turned the firewall on the windows box off, and i do not have firestarter installed on my ubuntu box
[07:54] <chris86wm> (i did have firestarter on here last week but i removed it after a few minutes)
[07:55] <holycow> *hmmm* generally it takes a little bit for samba to pick up windows machines on a network ... unfortunately my sambafu sucks without my reference book :/
[07:55] <holycow> i've never really seen ubuntu not be able to browse a windows network even with a domain tho ... usually it has been someone blocking network broadcasting with a firewall
[07:56] <chris86wm> well whats weird is that when i go to the network places, i see a box that says "you must log in to access UBUNTU"
[07:56] <chris86wm> (this is from the ubuntu box)
[07:56] <holycow> chris86wm, that sounds like something is not installed
[07:56] <chris86wm> i have no passwords set on the network
[07:56] <holycow> is this a fresh install of ubuntu?
[07:56] <chris86wm> yes, about a week old
[07:56] <holycow> ohhh you are browsing from windows to ubuntu?
[07:56] <chris86wm> no ubuntu to windows
[07:57] <chris86wm> both are fresh installs
[07:57] <holycow> your ubuntu box sees the windows box then?
[07:57] <chris86wm> no
[07:57] <holycow>  i see a box that says "you must log in to access UBUNTU"  <-- i'm not sure what that means, you get that when you click on what exactly?
[07:58] <chris86wm> i go to...
[07:58] <chris86wm> Places ----->Network Servers
[07:58] <chris86wm> then it pops up
[07:58] <holycow> just for reference, that box shouldn't come up at all
[07:59] <chris86wm> yeah i know lol
[07:59] <holycow> :)
[07:59] <chris86wm> why would i need the password for the UBUNTU box that i am on right now!!??
[07:59] <Stampertje> can't i install wine on this ?
[07:59] <Stampertje> or is that only for kde
[07:59] <Stampertje> it's not in package list
[07:59] <Stampertje> :/
[07:59] <chris86wm> wine is for gnome too
[08:00] <holycow> chris86wm, that sounds like a mistake, have you tried reinstalling samba or smbclient perhaps?  i have never heard of this, nothing on google about this?
[08:00] <Stampertje> ok then i'll just have to do manual dl
[08:00] <chris86wm> let me try that
[08:00] <holycow> chris86wm, as another side note, there are other bugs in the samba/nautilus/keymanager components, i occasionally get a request to log in to a domain when one isn't required so ...
[08:01] <dennis999> Anybody know how to change the calender layout
[08:01] <holycow> perhaps this is symptomatic of overal 'unclean' implementation at this point
[08:01] <dennis999> ?
[08:01] <holycow> Stampertje, what are you downloading manually? wine?
[08:01] <holycow> why?
[08:01] <holycow> its in the repos dude :)
[08:01] <B-166_ER-X> help..... : when i start ubuntu, i have a error message 'cant find desktop folder, yo uhave to create it or make permission so Nautilus can acess it'
[08:01] <chris86wm> yeah use synaptic
[08:01] <holycow> dennis999, what do you mean change calendar layout?
[08:02] <B-166_ER-X> no desktop folder =  something bad
[08:02] <holycow> B-166_ER-X, not really
[08:02] <chris86wm> well i reinstalled that, and now the authentication box doesnt come up but i cant see the windows box
[08:02] <dennis999> I want Sunday to be first
[08:02] <holycow> B-166_ER-X, request to change your nick, it's too odd to type in even with tab completion :)
[08:02] <holycow> B-166_ER-X, is that a fresh install?
[08:02] <B-166_ER-X> always add this nick but..
[08:03] <holycow> b166erx, :) easier
[08:03] <b166erx> holycow,  well, like a week, and it was working right a few hours ago
[08:03] <chris86wm> man this is gonna suck if i cant get my network to pick up
[08:03] <holycow> b166erx, it sounds like either permissions are wrong or something else is borked, if all you are is missing a home dir thats an easy fix
[08:04] <holycow> b166erx, that sounds like you were mucking about and changed permissions on home dir, i did the same actually :) heh
[08:04] <holycow> b166erx, so, how far can you get on boot, just login screen?
[08:04] <b166erx> well, i cant recall doing this
[08:05] <b166erx> holycow,  i actually, am now on my ubuntu, i have acess to the top menus ...but hte desktop is plain and i cant acess File system, of home dir..ect..
[08:05] <freelove> how do i change the usplash??
[08:05] <holycow> dennis999, i don't see anythign about calendar that would suggest that you can configure it that way, :/
[08:06] <holycow> b166erx, ah shoot, i'm sure it can be fixed but it also is a wee bit delicate situation
[08:06] <dennis999> I couldn't either that's why I  am here, thanks anyway.
[08:06] <b166erx> hm
[08:06] <holycow> it's not soemthign i can really run you through at 11 pm at nigth dude, you may permanently loose access to your account if i miss a step :/
[08:06] <b166erx> a DIR in terminal list the home dir and desktop
[08:07] <b166erx> although listing it, i cannot access it
[08:07] <holycow> b166erx, hang around perhaps someone who can see straight can help :) there are a few things one should do to make sure you don't lock your self out so it's best not to have me walk you through
[08:07] <holycow> it
[08:08] <b166erx> ok..then...can someone help ?
[08:08] <b166erx> dnag
[08:09] <b166erx> its 2:00 am here ;P
[08:11] <N6REJ> how can I add this url to the sources list?  It doesn't like it... http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/dapper/
[08:12] <ejofee> how can i change the menu style automatically. aren't there some preestablished menu themes?
[08:13] <holycow> what do you mean "menu themes"
[08:14] <bsdirl> question: can you get xubuntu with ship-it?
[08:14] <chris86wm> aghh!
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: I'm not sure, but you might need to separate dapper/ as the section?
[08:14] <chris86wm> this stinks
[08:15] <Madpilot> bsdirl: no, only Ubuntu
[08:15] <bsdirl> heh i was wondering why the CDs I got had gnome
[08:15] <bsdirl> ty :]
[08:15] <Stampertje> N6REJ, don't you need to put ftp:// in front of it ?
[08:15] <N6REJ> tonyyarusso: I got some of the firefox amd64.deb files for ubuntu from here ... http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/ the problem is they need other files too.
[08:16] <bsdirl> peace
[08:17] <chris86wm> no more ideas on the networking problem guys? i think i am stumped
[08:17] <N6REJ> whats your network problem chris86wm ?
[08:17] <Stampertje> N6REJ, why not try an ftp client instead of firefox ?
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: Did you try enabling multiverse, universe, and restricted first?
[08:17] <N6REJ> Stampertje: no, I'm trying to upgrade ff to 1.5 on the amd64 arch.
[08:17] <chris86wm> i will repaste it
[08:17] <N6REJ> tony for breezy yeah.
[08:17] <chris86wm> i am trying to share a folder from my windows computer with ubuntu. i have both of them hooked up through a router, but ubuntu doesnt seem to see the windows computer on the network. is there something special that needs to be done in order to view the shared windows folder?
[08:18] <b166erx> Can someone help me here please ?      Nautilus tells me that DEsktop doesnt existe or that there is wrong permissions
[08:18] <chris86wm> when i go to places-----> network servers i window pops up saying "You must log in to access UBUNTU"
[08:18] <N6REJ> chris86wm: yeah, you need samba AND they have to belong to the same samba domain
[08:18] <chris86wm> i have sambe and they are on the same domain
[08:18] <chris86wm> *samba
[08:19] <N6REJ> chris86wm: then your samba config is bad.
[08:19] <freelove> how do i change the usplash??
[08:19] <chris86wm> the windows box sees the ubuntu one but the ubuntu one doesnt see the windows
[08:19] <chris86wm> its a fresh install of ubuntu though......:(
[08:19] <N6REJ> chris86wm: let me think.
[08:19] <Stampertje> windows does see the linux box ? lol i think that's kinda funny
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: It looks like you should just be able to add the sections (main, etc.) after the line you put earlier.
[08:19] <Stampertje> :D
[08:20] <N6REJ> tonyyarusso: yeah, thats what I thought too!
[08:20] <dbernar1> Hi, can anyone help me set my locale up?
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: Have you looked at http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/dapper/?
[08:20] <dbernar1> I am getting an error with apt, and other programs.
[08:20] <chris86wm> i had this working in hoary
[08:20] <N6REJ> tonyyarusso:  that might help... let me try.
[08:21] <paulgroovy> Hi, I'm back and need some help finding the driver for my dlink dwl-g650 wifi card, and then downloading it.
[08:21] <Stampertje> where the hell can i make everything english again. this dutch mindless translation is kinda freaking me out
[08:22] <b166erx> how can i show the permissions on a dir ? and what should be the permissions on Desktop ?
[08:22] <difekta> chris86wm like keymap stuff?
[08:22] <b166erx> how can i list the current permissions ?
[08:22] <Wookie> wig, so your current date, and the date is current thing, with 'change background, create folder etc..' or the sudo perl
[08:22] <N6REJ> tonyyarusso: Failed to fetch http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/dapper/dists/main/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[08:22] <Wookie> qt2: a great for now i'm stuck trying to fetch major bug with c libraries
[08:22] <N6REJ> b166erx: in terminal ls -la
[08:22] <Wookie> st^anger^19m: if you really bother me, id 2) ls -ld /media/public
[08:23] <chris86wm> difekta: what do you mean keymap stuff?
[08:23] <Wookie> in c i can't define the keymap for xorg
[08:23] <b166erx> -rw-r--r--   1 oli  oli<PHONE_NUMBER>-12-12 00:36 Desktop
[08:23] <b166erx>  , does that looks normal ?
[08:23] <Wookie> -rw-r--r-- 1 root
[08:23] <Wookie> does that the normal wallpaper.
[08:23] <rafx> b166erx: also be sure to read this, it will answer many of your questions before you ask:  http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[08:23] <Wookie> normally i just understanding this, it screws up
[08:25] <weissi> is it possible to install ubuntu/kubuntu via a net installer like debian (put 2 floppies in and get the rest via apt get over the net) ?
[08:25] <Wookie> phantomcircuit-a: irc.undernet.org #teensex hth hand :) this is the root should do that for about 5 different floppies ten years ago than ruby, etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?debianamd64faq
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: Remove the /dists after /dapper, and /restricted is a separate section, not part of /main.
[08:25] <Wookie> n6rej: it looks like button displays the warning failed
[08:26] <Wookie> i love the description that you want other side reading it now
[08:26] <N6REJ> tonyyarusso:  so they should be seperate entrys?
[08:26] <Wookie> it's all treated as seperate files, although you might get
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> N6REJ: Correct.
[08:27] <Wookie> n6rej: i'm not sure, but it is basically what is hosed something
[08:27] <N6REJ> k
[08:27] <Wookie> acetech: k joined the burn button?
[08:27] <Wookie> reisio
[08:27] <reisio> heh
[08:27] <Wookie> rafx, heh
[08:28] <reisio> no ops? :p
[08:28] <Wookie> it both ways :p
[08:28] <Wookie> dabar
[08:28] <Wookie> big!
[08:28] <Wookie> heatxsink_
[08:28] <Xenguy> !network-install
[08:28] <ubotu> network-install is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot?action=show&redirect=NetbootInstall
[08:28] <Wookie> like, totally, a way to store a gui frontend
[08:28] <dabaR> Wookie: heh, I just joined the channel, and you said my name...
[08:28] <Wookie> i've got some really care about being very accurate this is, i output file name..
[08:29] <Xenguy> speak of the devil ;-)
[08:29] <Wookie> who can speak freakin' roman, svizzero
[08:29] <dabaR> Wookie: I fixed my locale issue.
[08:29] <Wookie> brend: there's unicode locale really breaks this time you didnt really checked
[08:29] <Wookie> zh
[08:29] <N6REJ> And I think I have to tell it its source not binary
[08:29] <Wookie> mathias64, so where would recommend a binary distro
[08:29] <Wookie> i have -pipe in your network problem chris86wm
[08:30] <chris86wm> sry i just got back in the room
[08:30] <Wookie> anything goes type chat room
[08:30] <chris86wm> i missed what ya said
[08:30] <Wookie> i've already reboote.d i missed voicing you had a generic query example i have instaled and want to put that livecd totally worked!
[08:30] <chris86wm> lol
[08:30] <Wookie> ball: only the faq in one of them is a lot more money lol
[08:30] <dabaR> Wookie: would you like a kick ban, or are you really bad in english?
[08:30] <Wookie> spider: a) cycle b) i kick ass
[08:30] <chris86wm> Wookie: would you mind repeating yourself?
[08:30] <Wookie> my dad wants help yourself to c and by repeating what you've plenty to robotics enthusiasts and such file or howto
[08:31] <weissi> ubotu: oh, I'm searching for a simple netinst, not that freaky! My setup is the following: harware-router<-->target_machine. I have no cd burner (and no time to order a cd)
[08:31] <Wookie> mephis1987, your software is the following:
[08:31] <ubotu> weissi: I think you lost me on that one
[08:31] <Wookie> yeah i lost
[08:31] <N6REJ> tonyyarusso: no luck so far still trying.
[08:31] <Wookie> tonyyarusso: thanks..
[08:31] <dabaR> weissi: he is a bot.
[08:31] <Wookie> dpkg pours a bag of times just have wired their bot only spit out the p4 3.06 system?
[08:31] <chris86wm> omg, its working
[08:31] <weissi> oops ;-)
[08:31] <Wookie> the e doesnt work, i might be working in topic answering that
[08:31] <Wookie> oh, oops
[08:32] <bob2> dabaR: ?
[08:32] <Wookie> 'pop out' ?
[08:32] <kemik> HAL is it you?!
[08:32] <Wookie> foampeace, mount -o loop -t nat -a | grep hal process?
[08:32] <dabaR> bob2: help yourself to some of this.
[08:32] <Wookie> limewier is hosted by yourself and find certain things very quickly get screen fulls of earth :)
[08:32] <kemik> why not just kick it ?
[08:32] <Wookie> kick
[08:32] <bob2> kick what?
[08:32] <Wookie> kick doesn't generate random poles they buy the bottom of that extends jframe the 400 | regex substitution, so the same as the windows version of daemon-tools or alcohol 120%
[08:33] <chris86wm> i just had to leave the user name blank when i logged in
[08:33] <Wookie> you didn't have to, i didn't feel like an entirely different than an errormessage when you logged into a ballpark
[08:33] <weissi> so, is there no way to boot the ubuntu-installer via 1..n (n<5 if possible) floppies and get the rest via net?
[08:33] <Wookie> floppies on cd-s, while to /usr/x11/include?
[08:33] <chris86wm> LMAO
[08:33] <Wookie> lmao
[08:33] <N6REJ> chris86wm: weird
[08:33] <Wookie> chris86wm: let me think it xorg 7.0rc i'm getting worried then modular x it probably a good idea :s
[08:33] <Madpilot> bob2: kick the Wookie?
[08:33] <Wookie> i have a part, quit, or kick
[08:33] <chris86wm> N6REJ: thanks for the help
[08:33] <Wookie> n6rej: have you are asking people to access ubuntu
[08:34] <N6REJ> bob, how can I add the dapper repository's to my sources.list?
[08:34] <Wookie> bob2, well bob, its longer :)
[08:34] <bob2> N6REJ: don't
[08:34] <Wookie> n6rej: it looks like best: http://www.shellshark.net/images/buscard1.png
[08:34] <kemik> Wookie:  HAL  ?
[08:34] <Wookie> marcion, -a | grep hal process?
[08:34] <dabaR> Wookie: check it out.
[08:34] <Wookie> like how can i check the know about mysql 3.23, is included
[08:34] <bob2> Wookie: anyway, you don't appear to be talking about ubuntu, so pease come back on-topic or go
[08:34] <Wookie> just wanted the whole joy of the card won't appear in the network adapter?
[08:35] <Razor-X> Wookie: HAL ?
[08:35] <Wookie> and our ninja friends showing no hal process?
[08:35] <dabaR> Wookie: har har
[08:35] <Wookie> chaumurky i'm just so i can do it
[08:35] <kemik> Wookie:  turing test
[08:35] <Wookie> theres a test a method of writing to the string null, you're much about upnp but trouble for me lately
[08:35] <bob2> Wookie: yea or nay?
[08:35] <Wookie> yay or nay?
[08:35] <Myrtti> Wookie: null?
[08:36] <dabaR> Wookie: is that fast typing?
[08:36] <Wookie> actually, to others have a fast about a module
[08:36] <N6REJ> bob2: I've got myself into a pickle... I was trying to install firefox 1.5 and I found some ubuntu .debs on ftp.osuosl.org and now I've got about 10 packages that need more dependencies, and they conflicting with breezy because they are newer then breezy.
[08:36] <Wookie> maybe its conflicting with sha512 to be used as crappy and write one more question: i'm using webrick locally or for sb16 or just write etch
[08:36] <bob2> N6REJ: get the hell rid of them all
[08:36] <Wookie> n6rej: did you try other net
[08:36] <Razor-X> Wookie: who are you?
[08:36] <Wookie> why can't you?
[08:36] <Razor-X> Wookie: why can't you?
[08:36] <Wookie> gotta go, anyway, so i did i, but it for you?
[08:36] <N6REJ> bob2: how can I do that without breaking anything?
[08:37] <bob2> N6REJ: dpkg -P --force-depends all of them
[08:37] <N6REJ> ok.
[08:37] <dabaR> N6REJ: like me, I had some down time off the web today cause of playing with external debs.
[08:37] <N6REJ> let me make notes, cause synaptic wants to uninstall about half of breezy to fix it.
[08:38] <qt2> Wookie, hm?
[08:38] <N6REJ> all I wanted to do was upgrade to FF1.5 sheeesh.
[08:38] <bob2> you won't be using synaptic for this
[08:38] <dabaR> well, happens. ya, write it down, so you can reinstall what you need, that is really what got me, I did not look too well what I uninstalled when repairing.
[08:38] <Stampertje> where can i manually paste some webadress in synaptic ?
[08:38] <bob2> N6REJ: installing packages from dapper on breezy is a very poor way to try to do that
[08:38] <Stampertje> can't find it anywhere
[08:38] <bob2> N6REJ: installing random .debs you find on the internet is also a bad plan
[08:38] <dabaR> Stampertje: in repositories.
[08:38] <bob2> N6REJ: either get the tarball from mozilla.org or use he "backports"
[08:38] <Stampertje> well i've installed the nl version
[08:38] <Stampertje> which sux
[08:38] <bob2> Stampertje: why would synaptic want a url pasted into it?
[08:38] <qt2> Wookie, what were you on about?
[08:39] <Stampertje> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[08:39] <Stampertje> i want that
[08:39] <Stampertje> in it
[08:39] <Stampertje> ;)
[08:39] <bob2> Stampertje: then put that in /etc/apt/sources.list, if you're sure it's correct
[08:39] <bob2> qt2: Wookie cannot speak in here
[08:39] <N6REJ> bob2: heres, where I got the files... http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[08:39] <mettallicat> how about wineX
[08:39] <qt2> Wookie, lol, why's that?
[08:39] <Stampertje> how about it mettallicat
[08:39] <bob2> N6REJ: as above, do not install random .debs
[08:39] <Madpilot> bob2: it's too bad ops can't force-move someone to another channel ;) offtopic could do with a turing-bot
[08:39] <bob2> qt2: enough
[08:39] <N6REJ> bob2: ok.
[08:40] <qt2> bob2, err... okay? o.O;
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> I think I just installed an extension in Firefox that's causing trouble, and it won't let me uninstall.
[08:40] <mettallicat> Stampertje, do u have wineX deb ?
[08:40] <N6REJ> bob2: can I get a list of the broken packages?
[08:40] <bob2> qt2: wookie cannot reply to you.  if you want to continue discussing with it, use /msg
[08:40] <dabaR> its annoying answers even when you do not talk to it, Madpilot
[08:40] <mettallicat> i want :D
[08:40] <bob2> N6REJ: being in that dir just means that it's for some version of ubuntu, not neccessarily the one you have
[08:40] <qt2> bob2, it's a bot?
[08:40] <bob2> mettallicat: winex is proprietary software, www.transgaming.com
[08:40] <bob2> qt2: don't know, don't care
[08:40] <bob2> Madpilot: you can set redirect bans, I think
[08:41] <mettallicat> bob2, i know :( and i cry
[08:41] <dabaR> Stampertje: Settings>Repositories>Add>Custom.
[08:41] <qt2> bob2, was just wondering why it said my name, dont gotta get annoyed at me.... i'll go back to idling now. x.x;
[08:41] <bob2> qt2: sorry, not annoyed, just trying to stop this conversation asap ;)
[08:41] <Stampertje> dabaR, i found it already :)
[08:41] <Stampertje> but everything is in dutch
[08:41] <qt2> bob2, okay, i'll drop it ^.^;
[08:41] <Stampertje> and i can't even understand much of it
[08:41] <chaumurky> damn walking carpet
[08:41] <Stampertje> english is better
[08:42] <dabaR> ya, that is why dutch people choose to talk dutch, cause english is better.
[08:43] <ruiwen> hi how do i install apache-1.3.34 in ubuntu?
[08:43] <bob2> ruiwen: why that version in particular?
[08:44] <chaumurky> has anyone noticed a difference to cd/dvd performance by turning 'unmaskirq' on in hdparm.conf??
[08:44] <ruiwen> bob2: =) actually not that version exactly.. just the 1.3 version, not apache 2 that comes default
[08:44] <bob2> ruiwen: apt-cache show apache
[08:44] <dabaR> ruiwen: install the apache package.
[08:46] <coz> hello all
[08:46] <coz> problem with xchat
[08:47] <coz> anyone avaiable
[08:47] <nutterpc> what sorta issues
[08:47] <chaumurky> I'm on nirc - not much use coz
[08:47] <freelove> how do i change the usplash??
[08:47] <coz> well this is the second time this has occured
[08:47] <bob2> freelove: how much do you care?
[08:47] <viperX> Hey guys, does anyone know how to download and install themes for Firefox?
[08:47] <coz> i have a clean install of breezy and when I go into xchat and put my name in
[08:48] <coz> I get a messeag that soem"nick something or other already has that name
[08:48] <coz> Under settings all that it says is connect or disconnect and not join channerl stc
[08:48] <dabaR> nice.
 in firefox go 'tools' -> 'themes'. then click get more themes.
[08:48] <nutterpc> that generally means if u have connected to a server
[08:48] <holycow> coz, try another nick?
[08:48] <nutterpc> and it says that, that someone else on that server is already using that name
[08:48] <coz> but I havn't and the last time this happened I just uninstalled an then reinstalled xchat and it was fine
[08:48] <dabaR> freelove: search for splash in synaptic.
[08:49] <coz> this time it didn't work
[08:49] <Ej25goddess> Hi chaumurkey im back :)
[08:49] <coz> any suggestions
[08:49] <holycow> coz, it just means someone on the network is using your nick
[08:49] <coz> ok I will log off and try again
 you may have a zombie xchat process running??
[08:49] <N6REJ> bob2: OMG I went from 10 broken packages to 67 by removing them :'(
[08:49] <chaumurky> missed him damn
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> Can I disable all of my Firefox extensions at once?  (So I can reenable them one at a time.)
[08:50] <holycow> tonyyarusso, no
[08:50] <N6REJ> whew!!! all fixed now.... ty bob2!
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> holycow: Shoot.
[08:50] <cosimo> no go guy this is the message I got this time -
[08:50] <cosimo> * End of /MOTD command.
[08:50] <cosimo> * Received a CTCP VERSION from freenode-connect
[08:50] <cosimo> * ubuntu :That channel doesn't exist
[08:50] <Stampertje> all those problems in here.. damn i'm getting regrets already lol
[08:50] <holycow> shoot what? i gave you the answer
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> holycow: Any idea how to force an uninstall of one?
[08:51] <holycow> tonyyarusso, yes, remove it manually
[08:51] <viperX> Ok, I'm on the Firefox theme site, but when I click on the install button of the theme that I want, nothing happens
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> holycow: How?
[08:51] <N6REJ> oh well, guess I'm stuck with ff 1.07 until 1.5 gets into repository :(
[08:51] <viperX> anybody else experiencing this?
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> holycow: FF is installed to /opt/firefox, btw.
[08:52] <holycow> tonyyarusso, most are locatd in your .mozila firefox extensions dir
[08:52] <itouchedpussy> are any of you able to help me get my sound working again?
[08:53] <holycow> itouchedpussy, depends on yoru question.  please ask a technical question
[08:53] <bob2> N6REJ: once they're gone "sudo apt-get -f install ubuntu-desktop" can unbreak the rest
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> holycow: I think I found them.  Now I just have to figure out which one it is!
[08:53] <crimsun> itouchedpussy: lspci -v|grep -i audio ; amixer
[08:53] <crimsun> itouchedpussy: output to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:53] <Stampertje> bob2 he is gone already
[08:53] <itouchedpussy> holycow: well it works in games and other things, but programs like xmms will ask if my sound card is blocked by another program
[08:54] <crimsun> itouchedpussy: change xmms to use the ALSA output plugin
[08:54] <holycow> itouchedpussy, also please change your nick
[08:54] <holycow> this is a family channel
[08:54] <Razor-X> thank you holycow
 ok now? you may have a zombie xchat process running??
[08:54] <coz> OK guys this is a no go. i cannot get on as normal on this xchat I will paste the message I get when I log on normally if anyohne would be willing to look at it
[08:55] <viperX> what dir are ff themes stored in?
[08:55] <coz> OK how do I change that
[08:55] <chaumurky> me?
[08:55] <coz> yes chaumurky  how would i foind out
[08:55] <coz> find
[08:55] <frank_b> can anyone tell me how can I add the time an date option in gnome's panel? (I accidentaly deleted the panel)
[08:56] <elemenze> um, i'm the one who was just in with the inappropriate username, and i need those commands again =(
[08:56] <chaumurky> opn the syatem monitor and check the list of processes
[08:56] <coz> frank_ b right click on the bar add to panal
[08:56] <elemenze> oh, nevermind
[08:56] <frank_b> coz, yes, but i don't see the time and date option
[08:56] <frank_b> coz, ahhh
[08:56] <coz> whoa hold on I will check mine
[08:56] <frank_b> coz, forget it
[08:57] <frank_b> coz, it's in "clock"!
[08:57] <elemenze> holycow: who was the other person helping me?
[08:57] <linuxaddicts> gday all
[08:57] <coz> right
[08:57] <frank_b> coz, I'm a moron
[08:57] <coz> me too thats why I namced myself doof
[08:57] <frank_b> hehe
[08:58] <frank_b> coz, sorry to bother you then
[08:58] <crimsun> elemenze: lspci -v|grep -i audio ; amixer
[08:58] <coz> chaumurky what was this about  xchat thing
[08:58] <viperX> Does anyone know what dir firefox themes are stored in?
[08:58] <frank_b> coz, thanks for your help
[08:58] <coz> no problem
[08:58] <elemenze> crimsun: ah, there you are XD
[08:58] <elemenze> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/460533
[08:58] <chaumurky> I just thought if you had an IRC client process running in the background you may be getting the login errors - just a thought
[08:59] <coz> This is the message I get when I try to log onto xchat normally  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ms6toM69.html
[08:59] <viperX> and how do I open a .jar file?
[08:59] <dabaR> viperX: what is in it?
[08:59] <crimsun> viperX: java -jar foo.jar
[08:59] <chaumurky> java -j <name>.jar
[08:59] <chaumurky> oops
[08:59] <chaumurky> wrong platform...
[08:59] <coz> would somone look at this and tell me what the heck isgoing on? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ms6toM69.html
[09:00] <crimsun> elemenze: are you using ordinary analog speaker-out?
[09:00] <chaumurky> hang on.
[09:00] <jmibanez> ok, how does one go about diagnosing why a usb thumb drive's volume isn't being detected by hal?
[09:00] <viperX> It's a theme for Firefox. i had to download it manually because the install link isn't working for me for some reason.....
[09:00] <elemenze> crimsun: what do you mean by that?
[09:00] <dabaR> coz: what nickname comes up with that?
[09:00] <pitti> jmibanez: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices
[09:00] <jmibanez> (on one pc w/ breezy it works; on another, the volume (sda1) isn't seen by hal and doesn't show up in hal-device-manager)
[09:00] <jmibanez> pitti, ah, thanks
[09:00] <coz> NickServ
[09:00] <pitti> jmibanez: then please file a bug and include the logs
[09:00] <coz> dabaR "NickServ"
[09:01] <topyli> coz: if it's your nick, then identify it. what exactly is the problem?
[09:01] <chaumurky> ./msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[09:01] <crimsun> elemenze: are you using the digital output (spdif connection)?
[09:01] <dabaR> coz: you try your nickname to be nickserv? that is taken.
[09:01] <viperX> dabaR should I move the theme that I downloaded into the extensions folder for Filefox?
[09:01] <coz> OK Normally I put my name in log on and go under sserve to choose where i want ot go
[09:01] <elemenze> crimsun: i still don't understand what you mean ><
[09:01] <dabaR> viperX: is it a .jar file?
[09:01] <coz> Now u the only thin gunder server is connect and idssconnect
[09:01] <coz>  ther is no list at all
[09:01] <viperX> Yep!
[09:02] <chaumurky> strange
[09:02] <coz> I didn't use nickserv
[09:02] <coz> it brought that up on its own
[09:02] <chaumurky> ahha
[09:02] <dabaR> coz: what name, is it "coz"? did you ever register the coz nick?
[09:02] <crimsun> elemenze: ok, then disregard that question. In a Terminal, amixer sset 'IEC958' off
[09:02] <coz> I believe so but if not how do I do thatagain?
[09:03] <dabaR> coz: the nick server is telling you coz is registered, if coz is you, idenitify yourself.
[09:03] <elemenze> crimsun: done
[09:03] <topyli> coz: you don't, you just identify yourself with your password. just like nickserv is telling you
[09:03] <coz> I am coz  but no password
[09:03] <viperX> would it be alright to move the .jar file to the extensions folder for Firefox?
[09:03] <chaumurky>   /msg NickServ IDENTIFY
[09:03] <dabaR> coz: and you never set up a password?
[09:03] <coz> nope
[09:03] <elemenze> crimsun: ach, brb
[09:03] <crimsun> elemenze: did you change XMMS to use the ALSA plugin?
[09:03] <elemenze> crimsun: yes
[09:04] <topyli> coz: isn't that a bit silly?
[09:04] <dabaR> viperX: where did you get the .jar?
[09:04] <elemenze> crimsun: i've tried all plugins (except disk writer)
[09:04] <elemenze> crimsun: brb
[09:04] <coz> on xchat?? It never asked for apassworkd
[09:04] <dabaR> coz: someone took your nick, it seems.
[09:04] <dabaR> is k and d close on the kybd? I always see that typo.
[09:04] <coz> how do I register again?
[09:04] <viperX> From the Firefox themes site. The install link doesn't work when i press on it, so I downloaded it manually.
[09:04] <dabaR> passwork, it is on opposite side of my kybd.
[09:05] <dabaR> viperX: I have no idea how that works with Firefox, I dont even use that windows program.
[09:05] <Vivid2005> hi
[09:05] <viperX> oh...
[09:05] <coz> OK guys how do I register my nick?
[09:05] <Vivid2005> Anybody awake??
[09:06] <qt2> err, does remote desktop work if a user is not logged in? o.O;
[09:06] <dabaR> coz: someone already did, you can not any more.
[09:06] <chaumurky>   /msg NickServ ID
[09:06] <coz> Ok how do I register another nick
[09:06] <chaumurky> !register
[09:06] <ubotu> I guess register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[09:06] <topyli> coz: /msg NickServ help
[09:06] <coz> I type that here?
[09:06] <chaumurky> yes
[09:06] <dabaR> chaumurky: look. http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ms6toM69.html that is what coz gets when he signs onto freenode.
[09:07] <coz> REGISTER
[09:07] <dabaR> chaumurky: one ahead of me.
[09:07] <topyli> uhh
[09:07] <dabaR> coz: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:07] <coz> -NickServ- REGISTER
[09:07] <chaumurky> that's what I said. Don't worry......
[09:08] <coz> what?? off topic??
[09:08] <dabaR> Vivid2005: did you have a question for the asleep?
[09:08] <dabaR> coz: ya, Ill show you how to do it.
[09:08] <topyli> coz: many people and 1 bot have told you many times :)
[09:08] <Vivid2005> -NickServ- REGISTER Vivid
[09:08] <coz> I cannot go to another server normally that s what I was trying to tell you
[09:08] <coz> let me try to find it
[09:08] <qt2> okay then, is there a way i can set up ubuntu to automatically log in as a certain user?
[09:09] <topyli> coz: don't find it. just join it
[09:09] <freelove> what command cleans my var/cache/apt/archive ?
[09:09] <freelove> its full i cant download anything!
[09:09] <chaumurky> sudo apt-get clean
[09:09] <coz> You don't seem to understand there is NO list to join I have to g into another menyu hold on
[09:09] <freelove> chaumurky: will it move it to trash or permanent clean?
[09:09] <topyli> list? join the channel -- /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:09] <chaumurky> perm
[09:10] <Stampertje> fuck this i just did the stupidest thing
[09:10] <Stampertje> :(
[09:10] <freelove> chaumurky: good
[09:10] <Stampertje> i couldn't edit fstab
[09:10] <elemenze> crimsun: i just restarted X, and xmms is working along with the system sounds, but sound in games like tuxracer, bzflag and armagetron doesn't work
[09:10] <Vivid2005> I have two questions...
[09:10] <Stampertje> so i echo'ed a line to it.. i thought
[09:10] <jmibanez> is hald supposed to get permission denied errors while trying to read /dev/sda of a usb thumb drive?
[09:10] <Stampertje> no everything is gone except for the line i echoed
[09:10] <Vivid2005> I couldn't edit fstab
[09:10] <chaumurky> my favourite 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get clean'
[09:11] <crimsun> elemenze: you need to stop esd before you play those games.
[09:11] <Stampertje> well i tried in root shell chmod 777 /etc/fstab
[09:11] <elemenze> crimsun: how do i stop esd?
[09:11] <jmibanez> specifically, addon-storage.c:283 is logging "open failed for /dev/sda: Permission denied"
[09:11] <Stampertje> but that didn't work very well
[09:11] <crimsun> elemenze: uncheck the box in System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup
[09:11] <elemenze> crimsun: and is thre a way to start it
[09:11] <Stampertje> so i echo'ed that fuckin line
[09:11] <Stampertje> :/
[09:11] <topyli> chaumurky: it's good to keep a cache so you can revert broken upgrades
[09:11] <chaumurky> language
[09:11] <elemenze> crimsun: thanks
[09:11] <crimsun> elemenze: to restart it, simply recheck that box
[09:11] <Stampertje> can i turn it back somehow ?
[09:11] <Vivid2005> I am the only user on my ubuntu, but I am not allowed to log in with the root !!!!!!!
[09:11] <elemenze> crimsun: awesome
[09:11] <Stampertje> because if i reboot now i think it's all fucked up
[09:12] <crimsun> !tell Vivid2005 about root
[09:12] <jmibanez> anyone? who's handling hald?
[09:12] <Stampertje> you can't login with root
[09:12] <Stampertje> only in shell
[09:12] <Stampertje> or reboot and try recovery mode
[09:12] <chaumurky> spose, but my repositorie's local and doesn't count as quota from my IAP. I'm on a 12Mb line so....
[09:12] <Stampertje> not sure about that though
[09:12] <chaumurky> *ISP
[09:12] <elemenze> crimsun: great! when i use the alsa plugin on xmms, music still comes out! ^^
[09:12] <Vivid2005> If it is not possible to log in with the root, I want to create a user with the permissions of root!!
[09:12] <Stampertje> ghehe
[09:13] <elemenze> crimsun: wait, not it doesn't, jut my imagination =\
[09:13] <crimsun> Vivid2005: you already did -- your user is capable of using sudo
[09:13] <bdiscoe> I have 5.04 and want to upgrade to 5.10... but Ubuntu site doesn't say how to do that.  Can anyone tell me?  Is is simple?
[09:13] <Stampertje> adduser user -u 0 -g 0 -d /
[09:13] <Stampertje> i think
[09:13] <jmibanez> ah, ignore that, found the problem
[09:13] <Stampertje> something like that
[09:13] <chaumurky> sudo passwd
[09:13] <chaumurky> oops..
[09:13] <Ej25goddess> chaumurky, can I ask a question of you?
[09:13] <chaumurky> yes
[09:13] <crimsun> elemenze: come again?
[09:13] <elemenze> crimsun: oh yes it does, my volume was jsut down
[09:13] <jmibanez> borken installation-- hal apparently isn't a member of plugdev-- hence the problem
[09:13] <crimsun> elemenze: heh
[09:13] <elemenze> crimsun: nevermind, everything is fine, thanks for everything
[09:13] <Ej25goddess> I redownloaded ubuntu, checked it with the md5 file, and burned it at the slowest speed my burner would do
[09:14] <Ej25goddess> which is 8x
[09:14] <Ej25goddess> this time i am installing it on the lapptop that worked just fine with the live cd
[09:14] <chaumurky> but.....
[09:14] <chaumurky> yes.....
[09:14] <Ej25goddess> but durrinig hte install, it said that a package (i think) didnt work durring thet install
[09:14] <Ej25goddess> but thtat I could install it later
[09:14] <chaumurky> which?
[09:14] <Vivid2005> what the f. is sudo???
[09:14] <Stampertje> can someone plz paste the content of fstab to me in query ??
[09:15] <chaumurky> may not be critical
[09:15] <Stampertje> oh w8
[09:15] <Ej25goddess> when it finally booted the first time, it wouldnt let me configure network settings
[09:15] <crimsun> Vivid2005: did you read the url that I had sent to you?
[09:15] <chaumurky> man sudo
[09:15] <Stampertje> that shit is different for anyone
[09:15] <Stampertje> fuck this
[09:15] <Stampertje> :D
[09:15] <chaumurky> !language
[09:15] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, chaumurky
[09:15] <chaumurky> LOL!!
[09:15] <bdiscoe> I have 5.04 and want to upgrade to 5.10... but Ubuntu site doesn't say how to do that.  Can anyone tell me?  Is is simple?
[09:15] <Ej25goddess> the live version automatically configures itself
[09:15] <Ej25goddess> and hops onto my wireless
[09:15] <Syntux> Syntux error!
[09:15] <Ej25goddess> and everything works just fine without me eeven touching it
[09:15] <Vivid2005> ahhhh !! THX!
[09:16] <chaumurky> ahh you may need ndiswrapper package?
[09:16] <Ej25goddess> is there anyway tto do an ftp install of ubuntu?
[09:16] <chaumurky> so you can boot to the install though
[09:16] <Ej25goddess> yeah
[09:16] <cosimo> Ok I am here again but xchat is still wrong
[09:16] <Ej25goddess> ii just cant confiigure any of the network settings
[09:16] <robitaille> bdiscoe,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[09:16] <crimsun> Stampertje: we avoid use of that language here.
[09:16] <chaumurky> you just need to get wireless to work, yes?
[09:17] <Ej25goddess> correct
[09:17] <chaumurky> ahh, not just wireless
[09:17] <Ej25goddess> this laptop doesnt even have a jack for a wired network
[09:17] <chaumurky> wow
[09:17] <Ej25goddess> old school.
[09:17] <Ej25goddess> botht of the computers I have right now are pIII 750s
[09:17] <bdiscoe> robitaille, thanks!  I can't imagine why the Ubuntu site doesn't link to the upgrade instructions.
[09:17] <Ej25goddess> one desktop and one laptop
[09:17] <chaumurky> unfortunately I'm not familiar with ndiswrapper or wireless. There may be others more able to help
[09:17] <dabaR> they have that new 150$ laptops for children.
[09:18] <Stampertje> crimsun, sorry will not happen again
[09:18] <cosimo> dabR this is still incorrect!
[09:18] <iTunes> how am i gonna setup ftpd ? ive tried.. but no luck
[09:18] <chaumurky> ok, I got confudes
[09:18] <Ej25goddess> is there any sort of ftp install for ubuntu?
[09:18] <robitaille> bdiscoe,   the site doesn't have a lot of detailed info.  The wiki is the place to look at for things like that.
[09:18] <dabaR> cosimo: what does "thanks doof out" mean?
[09:18] <Stampertje> but i'm just pissed because of my own stupidity
[09:18] <Stampertje> :P
[09:18] <cosimo> I am a doof
[09:18] <freelove> whats the best window manager apart from kde & gnome?
[09:18] <chaumurky> ftp using what kind of connection?
[09:18] <freelove> any recommendations?
[09:18] <cosimo> if you go under the menu "server' What do you see?
[09:18] <fdelacruz> hi there anyone already use firestar? any advice or tutorial for newbie
[09:19] <topyli> cosimo: happily registered now?
[09:19] <cosimo> No happily at all
[09:19] <topyli> dang
[09:19] <dabaR> freelove: there is no best. You can learn about names of a few at http://xwinman.org/
[09:19] <Ej25goddess> using a wireless connection
[09:19] <Ej25goddess> just like the live setup does
[09:19] <chaumurky> freelove you're killing me
[09:19] <cosimo> ok under the menu "server" what is listed there?
[09:19] <Stampertje> Anyone knows if there is some where I can reset fstab to like 30mins ago or something ?
[09:20] <dabaR> Stampertje: man, your question was simple, and you were cluttering it with your speech.
[09:20] <dabaR> what, you want fstab to be normal restricted permissions instead of 777?
[09:20] <Stampertje> i apoligized for it
[09:20] <Vivid2005> Is it possible to change the optic of the GNOME-Menue??? In my opinion, the menue is tooo big! I want smaller Icons in the dropdown-Menue!!
[09:20] <rambo3> try tp see if there is fstab~ file
[09:20] <Vivid2005> menu
[09:20] <chaumurky> hmm, there is a net install I think - but your problem will stop you from getting an ftp connection won't it?
[09:20] <topyli> Stampertje: restore your fstab from yesterday's backups
[09:20] <dabaR> Stampertje: I dont care about the words, or apology, I am just noticing how you delayed your own answer.
[09:20] <topyli> Stampertje: now you're going to say you don't do backups
[09:20] <Stampertje> topyli, i installed it 3 hours ago
[09:21] <cosimo> anyone can do this... look under the meu item "server" and tell me what you see listed there
[09:21] <topyli> Stampertje: oh man
[09:21] <iTunes> :|
[09:21] <topyli> Stampertje: you'll have to write a new one
[09:21] <Stampertje> well can you give me yours ? so i can rewrite mine ? :P
[09:21] <Stampertje> i have no clue what to put in it
[09:22] <topyli> Stampertje: sure, but mine will be all wrong of course
[09:22] <Stampertje> yes i understand that :)
[09:22] <chaumurky> *goes back to work for a while*
[09:22] <chaumurky> exit
[09:22] <Stampertje> well i can't help it.. i've used windows for many many years
[09:23] <Stampertje> but my pc is euhh sort of wasted
[09:23] <Stampertje> can't run windows no more
[09:23] <rob1> Seveas,  are you around?
[09:23] <Stampertje> :D
[09:23] <cosimo> dabaR sorry to interrupt but this didn't solve the prolbme
[09:23] <topyli> Stampertje: http://pastebin.com/460545
[09:25] <topyli> Stampertje: btw, i hate private windows :)
[09:25] <Stampertje> private ?
[09:26] <Stampertje> there are some things i just can't do in linux which i really need though
[09:26] <Vivid2005> Is it possible to change the optic of the GNOME-Menue??? In my opinion, the menu is tooo big! I want smaller Icons in the dropdown-Menu!!
[09:26] <topyli> Stampertje: yeah, /msg windows popping up from folks on support channels
[09:26] <Stampertje> yeah sorry i thought u were gonna give it to me in query
[09:26] <Stampertje> and i accidentially hit the dcc chat button
[09:27] <cosimo> anyone can yo help with this xchat problem
[09:27] <Stampertje> and it didn't want to buzz off
[09:27] <Stampertje> :P
[09:27] <Vivid2005> Is a manual for ubuntu available??
[09:28] <topyli> Stampertje: look a bit up, i pasted an url for you. my fstab is there
[09:28] <Stampertje> yes i've seen it thanks :)
[09:28] <Razor-X> Vivid2005: most standard Linux books should help you navigate the waters
[09:28] <Stampertje> know what thanks a lot!
[09:28] <dabaR> Vivid2005: check out the starget guide at http://help.ubuntu.com
[09:29] <Stampertje> lol i almost got stargate out of that one
[09:29] <topyli> Stampertje: how is your disk partitioned?
[09:29] <Stampertje> ehm i didn't partitioned it
[09:29] <cosimo> dabaR the problem isn't the nick I had it is the program itself
[09:29] <Stampertje> 2 hdd's
[09:29] <Stampertje> 20gig for ubuntu
[09:29] <Stampertje> and 120gig with my warez :p
[09:30] <Stampertje> i was trying to get that one working
[09:30] <Stampertje> ntfs hdd
[09:30] <Stampertje> need my music ;)
[09:30] <topyli> Stampertje: so you have one big partition on both disks, and the installer probably made a swap partition
[09:30] <iTunes> dabaR how can i set up ftpd ?
[09:30] <Stampertje> yup it did
[09:30] <dabaR> Stampertje: you should paste your fstab somewhere, so we can look, and say what your problem with fstab is.
[09:30] <Stampertje> i don't have a problem
[09:31] <dabaR> iTunes: you should use sftpd, ftpd sends passwords in plain text.
[09:31] <Stampertje> i just echo'ed this line: echo /dev/Y /mnt/ntfs ntfs users,owner,ro,umask=000 0 0 > fstab
[09:31] <dabaR> iTunes: install vsftpd for sftpd, or proftpd for ftpd. Again, I suggest, and use the former.
[09:31] <Stampertje> i missed one >
[09:31] <Stampertje> :p
[09:31] <Stampertje> needed 2 of them
[09:31] <topyli> Stampertje: yeah, one typo is enough :)
[09:31] <Stampertje> damn stupid thing to do
[09:31] <Vivid2005> the waters... but isn't a pdf availabe or so??
[09:31] <dabaR> cosimo: I got that by now, ya, fix the program.
[09:32] <dabaR> cosimo: I use irssi, I can not tell you anything about xchat.
[09:32] <topyli> Stampertje: a "sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab-svass" first would have made a difference too :)
[09:32] <iTunes> dabaR ok.. ill try it out
[09:33] <ruiwen> hi.. how do i activate (not sure if that's the word) php in apache?
[09:33] <cosimo> well does andyone here use xchat????
[09:33] <Madpilot> !tell ruiwen about apache
[09:33] <dabaR> ruiwen: you install a php plugin for apache
[09:33] <kwtm1> Hello!
[09:33] <Madpilot> ruiwen: the wiki URL that ubotu should have just sent you has all the info you need for apache+php
[09:34] <Stampertje> probably yes
[09:34] <Stampertje> :P
[09:34] <cosimo> who is using xchat here tongiht?
[09:34] <chaumurky> nirc ;-)
[09:34] <kwtm1> How do I use the command-line to get a list of available deb packages that can be installed in Ubuntu, the way that Synaptic or Adept lists the available packages?  I tried using "dpkg -l <PackageName>" or "dpkg -l | grep <PackageName>", but it could not seem to find packages that were clearly listed as available in Synaptic or Adept.  Am I missing something?
[09:34] <Stampertje> if i reboot now i can't get in ubuntu probably right ?
[09:34] <rambo3> tonight?
[09:34] <ruiwen> Madpilot: thanx =)
[09:34] <cosimo> OK now
[09:34] <rambo3> i use zchat , but dont know much about it
[09:34] <holycow> kwtm1, apt-cache search packagename
[09:34] <rambo3> x
[09:35] <snpz> kwtm1, use man apt-cache i think
[09:35] <holycow> kwtm1, also try to use aptitude, apt and aptitude are different apps in their own right
[09:35] <cosimo> anyone using xchat here?
[09:35] <chaumurky> no and no
[09:35] <kwtm1> holycow: will try.  Thx for the suggestion.
[09:35] <snpz> cosimo, yes
[09:35] <kwtm1> cosimo: I'm using xchat.  Why?
[09:35] <holycow> cosimo, sure
[09:35] <cosimo> snpz great
[09:35] <snpz> so?
[09:35] <cosimo> would you do me a favor
[09:36] <snpz> shoot
[09:36] <cosimo> look under the "server" menu and tell me what you havelisted there
[09:36] <snpz> a list of available servers
[09:36] <snpz> :D
[09:37] <cosimo> OK I don't have that under "server" I don't know why it is not there
[09:37] <iTunes> blag
[09:38] <iTunes> seatouch :P
[09:38] <chaumurky> seatouch how you do that
[09:38] <seatouch> :P
[09:38] <chaumurky> the 'third person' thingy
[09:38] <kwtm1> Under "server" I have "Disconnect | Reconnect | Leave Chan | Join Chan | Server Links | Ping Server | Hide Version "
[09:38] <seatouch> chaumurky /me slaps iTunes :P
[09:39] <Vivid2005> Is WINE also available for UBUNTU????????
[09:39] <chaumurky> YESSS!!!!
[09:39] <Vivid2005> :)
[09:40] <iTunes> Vivid2005 yeah :P
[09:40] <Vivid2005> via synaptics??
[09:40] <seatouch> WINE ? :P
[09:40] <iTunes> yes
[09:40] <Vivid2005> k
[09:40] <Vivid2005> how do I start wine??
[09:40] <chaumurky> you dont
[09:40] <p0st> I saved /var/cache/apt/archives without saving the dpkg sources list (packages.gz). how do you reconstruct it so that apt can install packages?
[09:40] <seatouch> :P
[09:40] <chaumurky> wine starts windows programs
[09:41] <chaumurky> i.e. wine windows program.exe
[09:41] <Fujitsu> chaumurky: It runs, not just starts.
[09:41] <chaumurky> well, yes ok...
[09:41] <Vivid2005> so I execute the .exe and wine starts by itself?
[09:41] <topyli> Vivid2005: "wine windows-app.exe"
[09:41] <Vivid2005> ah... k
[09:42] <blag> Vivid2005: install it. from universe. you can learn how to enable universe at http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[09:42] <p0st> ps - i tried deb-file in sources.list, but I think it needs packages.gz
[09:43] <blag> p0st: reload your package list. like, sudo aptitude update
[09:43] <kwtm1> p0st: I have a similar question:
[09:43] <kwtm1> holycow: It worked!  Another thing, if you (or anyone) could help me: say that I have a bunch of deb packages downloaded into some /MyDownloads directory, and I want Synaptic / Aptitude / Adept to find packages there rather than having to download them all again.  How do I set it up so that that directory is recognized as a potential source for deb packages?  I know I probably have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, but I am not sure
[09:43] <kwtm1> what to put there.  Or how can I use Synaptic / Adept to help me do it?
[09:43] <p0st> blag: but then where does it look to update the list?
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> How can I remove a package and ignore the dependencies (not removing the other things that want to be)?
[09:43] <viperX> Does anyone have Firefox?
[09:44] <chaumurky> huh?
[09:44] <blag> p0st: everywhere in your sources.list
[09:44] <topyli> tonyyarusso: it would be silly, because all that other stuff wouldn't work
[09:44] <chaumurky> doesn't a default Ubuntu install have firefox??
[09:44] <winston> it does
[09:44] <p0st> kwtm1: read man apt. there is a utilitiy to read packages from a CD, but that utility rebuilds the sources.list
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> topyli: It's for when I intend to reinstall, but have to do so from say a downloaded tar or something, or am just having temporary issues, and plan to put it back.
[09:45] <holycow> kwtm1, i donno i know it can be done but i've never looked up the syntax.  i just use dpkg -i to install packages.  i understand why you want to do that tho ... google local file system repositories
[09:45] <kwtm1> viperX: I'm using Firefox.  chaumurky: I think kubuntu uses Konqueror by default.
[09:45] <topyli> p0st: there's practically no apt man page
[09:45] <blag> kwtm1: you would have to make a repo from the debs.
[09:45] <blag> kwtm1: I dont know how.
[09:45] <p0st> blag: I had the directory where the archives are stored in sources.list, but apt didn't see them
[09:45] <chaumurky> ahh, I need to think quicker...
[09:45] <viperX> the install links for themes and extensions don't seem to be working for me. I was wondering if anyone had Firefox could you test the install links on the theme or extensions page to see if they work for you....
[09:46] <topyli> tonyyarusso: you can force dpkg to remove a package, but apt will complain about broken packages after that
[09:46] <viperX> If they work then that means that my firefox app is broken..
[09:46] <blag> p0st: I told you what to do. you need to update package list.
[09:46] <kwtm1> p0st: Didn't you just answer your own question?  You were telling me how to read from a directory, but in your case that directory happens to be /var/cache/apt, right?
[09:46] <p0st> topyli: man sources.list, man aptitude, etc.
[09:46] <topyli> p0st: yes, those are there
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> topyli: Okay.  That's exactly what I want.
[09:47] <p0st> kwtm1: the original location of those packages is long gone. I saved them when it was too late.
[09:48] <kwtm1> p0st: Oh.  Anyway, re: your suggestion: the man page for "apt" says: This manpage isnt even started.
[09:48] <viperX> kwtml would you mind testing the install links on Firefox's theme page to see if they work on your browser?
[09:48] <viperX> *kwtm1
[09:48] <kwtm1> viperX: unclear what you want.  Do you mean go to the default Firefox page, and see if the links work?  Because I changed my default home page already.
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> topyli: Can dpkg reinstall?
[09:49] <babygay_16> rg
[09:49] <mantiena> tonyyarusso, yes
[09:49] <henk> how do i tell ld to look in /usr/local/lib for files to link ? /etc/ld.so.conf is not on my system and i was wondering where ubuntu defines the path for ld
[09:49] <topyli> tonyyarusso: sure
[09:49] <viperX> I'm sorry. https://addons.mozilla.org and see if any of the install links for the themes or extensions work for you...
[09:49] <p0st> blag: for example, when you "install" the packages on the unofficial ubuntu addon CD, it adds the packages to the cache, but it also updates the dpkg list, with each line starting with "ii".
[09:50] <icebloodF> huh
[09:50] <Vivid2005> Thx for your help
[09:50] <blag> kwtm1: you could also even update the package list and put the files in /var/cache/apt/archives/ that could work for you too.
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> mantiena, topyli: How?
[09:51] <Vivid2005> One last question is already open!!!!
[09:51] <mantiena> tonyyarusso, dpkg -i package_blablabla.deb
[09:51] <Vivid2005> How can I change the ICON-Size in the dropdown-menu in GNOME??
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> mantiena: And that will overwrite?
[09:52] <mantiena> yes
[09:52] <topyli> tonyyarusso: no-one remembers dpkg commands without referring to the manual page :)
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> topyli: Right.  Okay.
[09:52] <MrFarts> who is jessica simpson and why should i care ?
[09:53] <kwtm1> viperX: Well, I'll try to install an extension... but I already have some extensions installed.  Does that answer your question, or do you need me to specifically try those extensions on that page?
[09:53] <viperX> Just try one. Just click on it to see if anything happens when you click the link. Thanks~
 where is this going??
[09:54] <p0st> tonyyarusso: are you updating the package cache?
[09:54] <viperX> Well, I'm trying to see if something is wrong with the entire site of if it's just my browser that's broken!
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> p0st: I'm doing this from a tar.gz
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> So actually, I'm crazy; dpkg won't do me any good anyway.
[09:55] <kwtm1> viperX: I clicked on Hide Searchbar under https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/showlist.php?application=firefox&category=Search%20Tools&numpg=10&pageid=6
[09:56] <topyli> tonyyarusso: afterwards, you'll want' to use dpkg-divert to fool dpkg into thinking the package is installed
[09:56] <kwtm1> viperX: and it installed.  The list of extensions says: "This item will be installed the next time you restart Firefox."  Everything as expected.
[09:56] <chaumurky> I just install Tab-X and then removed it. np.
[09:57] <viperX> Then my browser is broken. I'm using adept to manage my packages. Could I use it to uninstall Firefox?
[09:57] <Teh> Greetings again :)
[09:57] <harden> I did this: 1) disconnected my cdrom from power supply and secondary IDE; 2) moved HDD #2 from its position as slave to the CDROM and connected it as slave to HHD #1 on the primary IDE, instead 3) tried to boot 4) boot complains about superblock and that it can't find hdd2. anyone point me in a direction of what's happening?
[09:58] <chaumurky> try apt-get install --reinstall firefox
[09:58] <kwtm1> harden: when it says it can't find "hdd2", does it literally say "hdd2"?
[09:58] <Teh> May I ask waht the difference is between installing formating and installing, or formatting and choosing "use LVM"?
[09:58] <harden> things I should be doing instead 1) sleeping or 2) studying for tomorrow's final :)
[09:58] <harden> yes hdd2, indeed
[09:58] <icebloodF> wdewd
[09:58] <viperX> ok!
[09:58] <chaumurky> oh, make sure the popup blocker lets mozilla in...
[09:59] <icebloodF> hoi
[09:59] <kwtm1> harden: your master hard drive on the main IDE connector is "hda", and its slave is "hdb".  The main drive (your CDROM, it seems) on the secondary IDE connector is "hdc", and its slave is "hdd".
[09:59] <kwtm1> So, by reconnecting your hard drive that way, it has become "hdb".  The second partition is now "hdb2".
[10:00] <kwtm1> harden: If you try to mount it, it won't find "hdd2".  You might want to try this:
[10:00] <chaumurky> guys what's this? "[CTCP]  robitaille requested your version."
[10:00] <kwtm1> harden: "mount /dev/hdb2 /My/Usual/Mount/Directory"
[10:01] <kwtm1> harden: You might want to try "ls /dev/hd*" to see what's available to mount.  (I *think* that works.)
[10:01] <harden> so this fails because fstab thinks it knows where the second HDD is (and its not there)?
[10:02] <kwtm1> harden: correct.  You might want to correct /etc/fstab.  Try manual mounting first to verify that it is indeed "/dev/hdb2" where it is.
[10:02] <kwtm1> harden: shouldn't the final be more important?
[10:02] <harden> indeed, now that I've rebooted, I think I'll try it in the morning; but I had to ask :)
[10:03] <kwtm1> I don't know which IRC software you guys are using, but mine (Xchat) highlights the lines where my name appears.
[10:03] <Teh> When installing shoudl I use LVM or not?
[10:03] <kwtm1> If you don't put "kwtm1" in your lines, sometimes I don't realize that you're talking to me.
[10:03] <harden> also: the final isn't until noon, which is still 9 hours from now CST
[10:04] <chaumurky> i'd need to read up on LVM to answer that. not a bad idea.......
[10:04] <harden> thanks for your help, kwtml
[10:04] <Teh> ok
[10:04] <Teh> :)
[10:05] <harden> or maybe I'll just saty up for....a...bit...
[10:06] <iamphi> hello.  I am having problem viewing vietnamese unicode font with firefox.  I am looking at vietnamese websites, and letters that has accent on them are displayed in a different font face.  Any suggestions?
[10:06] <viviersf> how do i allow passwordless logins in gdm ?
[10:07] <chaumurky> look in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf. the answers you seek are there
[10:07] <iTunes> ProFTPd warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.
[10:07] <iTunes> anyone know how i can fix that ?
[10:12] <Nikusan> Wine hangs with 100% CPU usage when I try to install Starcraft.. known bug?
[10:14] <holycow> Nikusan, wrong place to ask probably, no way anyone can really know that :/
[10:14] <royce> i have an hp zv5000 laptop, using live ubuntu cd most of my hardware works great.  I only have issues with my internal wlan card, it a broadcom chip, any ideas, i've heard about ndis wrapping, but I really am a n00b
[10:14] <holycow> google will give you a faster result for such an esoteric issue
[10:15] <qt2> err, how would i set apt to view reccomend packages as required by default?
[10:15] <calamari_> hi
[10:15] <holycow> qt2, say what?
[10:16] <holycow> you can't do that, it's a very very bad idea because every package has recommends
[10:16] <Alpha1> Ubuntu comes with the nvidia driver right? I mean, the proper one?
[10:16] <Alpha1> or was I imagining things?
[10:16] <qt2> heh, okay then.
[10:16] <holycow> you would get a circular dependency all over the place
[10:16] <joedj> Alpha1: yeah, though there's some other stuff you must/should install
[10:16] <irvin> Alpha1, yes
[10:16] <Alpha1> woot, ta.
[10:16] <qt2> Nikusan, #winehq to ask about that.
[10:16] <holycow> in one command you would end up installing everything
[10:16] <CioN> hey all I need a graphic FTP client anyone knows one?
[10:16] <qt2> holycow, ahh.
[10:16] <calamari_> I'm trying to set up an ident server so I can connect to DALnet, but I'm having trouble.  For one thing, firestarter shows ident requests as serious, and blocks them, even after I added an inbound rule to allow all on port 113
[10:16] <Nikusan> qt2, holycow thanks guys, I'll ask there
[10:16] <chrisx1> CioN: gftp
[10:17] <holycow> CioN, gftp
[10:17] <CioN> chrisx1: tried that but it sucks, i blocks after few secs
[10:17] <chrisx1> yer
[10:17] <holycow> coag, nautilus alos does that, also you can mount ftp locations via places / connect to server
[10:17] <chrisx1> i ended up using terminal
[10:17] <royce> if there is an apropriate wiki, point me that direction
[10:17] <irvin> calamari_, i have mine configured to block 113 but i can connect successfully
[10:17] <CioN> chrisx1 man ftp?
[10:17] <chrisx1> yer
[10:18] <calamari_> irvin: any suggestions? I'm all ears :)
[10:18] <CioN> oh man that's long for such a simple task to do
[10:18] <qt2> err, i mean, the kernel, not ubuntu :D
[10:18] <holycow> CioN, what can't you do with gftp?
[10:18] <CioN> holycow: it just crashes
[10:18] <chrisx1> holycow: i find it times out n stuff easily
[10:18] <CioN> yup
[10:19] <CioN> so is terminal quick to use
[10:19] <holycow> ah, was just curious, donno any other graphic clients
[10:19] <holycow> like gftp or so
[10:19] <CioN> i saw all the synopsis and stuff it's kinda long
[10:19] <qt2> calamari_, tried allowing the host as well?
[10:19] <calamari_> irvin: oh, I misread.. are you dsaying that you are blocking ident and dalnet still lets you on?  yes, it can.. but it doesn't allow that for certain isps, like mine hehe
[10:19] <CioN> chrisx1 u set up firestarter to work with ftp?
[10:20] <chrisx1> no
[10:20] <royce> looking for help getting my internal broadcom wireless adapter working in ubunu, any ideas?
[10:20] <chrisx1> i didnt install firestarter
[10:20] <calamari_> qt2: not sure.. how do I do that?
[10:20] <CioN> chrisx1 oh right :D
[10:20] <calamari_> qt2: I just set it to "everyone"
[10:20] <chaumurky> !ndiswrapper
[10:20] <ubotu> hmm... ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support.  How do I know if my RAID Host adapter "Promise Fasttrak sx4000" will work with Breezy ?
[10:26] <joedj> |boris|: one option is to try it with the live DVD
[10:26] <Maxi> hallo
[10:26] <tetris> ddere
[10:27] <Maxi>  ddere
[10:27] <Maxi> du siehst nicht
[10:27] <chaumurky> sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>
[10:27] <tetris> asdfasdfas
[10:27] <tetris> hitn
[10:27] <tetris> asdfasdf
[10:29] <chaumurky> haha
[10:29] <royce> i'm looking for advise/information on running ubuntu dual boot
[10:29] <chaumurky> specifically --
[10:30] <royce> with windoze
[10:30] <chaumurky> be specific
[10:31] <chaumurky> and its Windows
[10:31] <ppcguy> hey all.. How would I go about setting my term to boarderless w/ breezy?
[10:31] <rambo3> what
[10:32] <royce> in any case, jst what partition settings would be optimal to avoid conflict with a previously installed windows xp system
[10:32] <chrisx1> :o
[10:33] <chaumurky> just leave as much unpartitioned space free as you can allow. Then let the install partition the unused space.
[10:33] <chaumurky> [CTCP]  robitaille requested your version./exit
[10:34] <ppcguy> what about the reverse? I have breezy installed on my celeron and would like to install XP..But even w/ a live cd boot fdisk and/or qt does not let me resize my hd
[10:34] <royce> will I still be able to have swp partitions, will ubuntu hold my hand through the setup?
[10:35] <zelevw> hi guys...i had to reboot my pc this morning after nothing would work...the messages were that I had a read-only file system...even as the pc shut down some things failed to shutdown because of the read-only issue...
[10:38] <|boris|> joedj, Thanks, I'll try that
[10:40] <e-spy> why /etc/init.d/inetd restart does not work in ubuntu?
[10:40] <e-spy> what is the replacment for that function..
[10:41] <viperX> I'm seriously getting peeved. I downloaded the Firefox 1.5 tar from mozilla. I extracted the firefox folder from the tar and then CD to the firefox folder. I've been trying to execute the ./configure command to compile the program but everytime i do, i get a 'no such file or directory' message. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
[10:41] <chaumurky> maybe it's xinetd
[10:41] <e-spy> nope it's not
[10:41] <chaumurky> hmm
[10:42] <linuxaddicts> viperX,i had same prob,
[10:42] <e-spy> i know it's wird
 I've heard that getting FF1.5 to work in 5.10 is a pain.
[10:42] <linuxaddicts> removed older firefox and did a clean install,
[10:42] <viperX> Can someone walk me thru compiling  this program?
[10:42] <linuxaddicts> then it worked
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> viperX: There is no configure.
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> viperX: Check the wiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion, it doesn't need compiling.
[10:45] <viperX> Sorray about that. Blasted program crashed.
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> viperX: There is no configure.  Check the wiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion, it doesn't need compiling.
[10:46] <viperX> Anyway, i have to manually compile the program because everytime that I use my package manager it gives me Firefox 1.0.7; I think that's the reason that the install links for themes and extensions don't work for me.
[10:46] <viperX> I'll check it out...
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> viperX: Make sure to do the step changing where /usr/bin/firefox points to make sure you use the new version.
[10:47] <coz> hello all
[10:47] <Teh> so in my install it just said "cpufreq:hange failed with new_state 1 and result 0"
[10:47] <Teh> err
[10:47] <Teh> change
[10:47] <viperX> k
[10:47] <Teh> should I care?
[10:47] <coz> well all that gave suggestions as to how to fix the xchat problem I was having were all wrong!
[10:48] <coz> dabaR the problem was , as I said the newer version of xchat.
[10:48] <Teh> any thoughts?
[10:48] <coz> for some reason the develper decided to remove all entries under one of the meu items making it nearly impossible to join a channel unless it ws typed in
[10:49] <coz> recover
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> Anyone have experience burning audio CDs directly from MP3?
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> I'm wondering which apps can do it.
[10:59] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: gnomebaker is good
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: If I just tell it that I'm making and audio CD and add mp3 files to the list, will it figure it out from there?
[11:00] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: you just drag and drop the mp3s and it will make it
[11:00] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Perfect.
[11:00] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: just make sure you click on Audio Disk tab
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Right.
[11:01] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: if you need to install it the command is sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Already done.
[11:02] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: ok cool
[11:03] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Any idea why Gnomebaker would want me to be root to burn a CD?
[11:03] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: it shouldn't - k3b doesn't...
[11:04] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: it shouldn't unless there may be files that are owned by root?
[11:04] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: i dont have to run as root or sudo...
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_ & Madpilot: No files belonging to root.  Maybe I need to add an entry to sudoers or some other permissions config to access burning capability?
[11:05] <vbgunz> is it possible to rm -fr a /directory but don't touch /directory/precious ?
[11:06] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: is this the default user you made with ubuntu installation?
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Yes.
[11:06] <_Gray_> Go to System > Administration > Users and Groups
[11:07] <_Gray_> then right click your username and select properties
[11:07] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Yes?
[11:07] <vbgunz> how to delete everything in a directory *except* for only one folder and it's contents?
[11:07] <_Gray_> and under the privileges tab, make sure that it has the permissions right
[11:07] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: I've used a lot of the burning apps that're available for Ubuntu, and never had to change my user settings...
[11:08] <_Gray_> madpilot: same here
[11:08] <Elektrochelovek> help
[11:08] <Elektrochelovek> forgot syntax
[11:08] <Elektrochelovek> for bot
[11:08] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: i have all ticked except use tape drive and setup and recieve faxes
[11:09] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Same.
[11:09] <Elektrochelovek> tell java
[11:09] <Baradis> Greetinge
[11:09] <Elektrochelovek> info java
[11:09] <calamari_> has anyone here sucessfully set up pidentd under ubuntu?  I can connect via telnet, but I get reponses like this: 61511 , 113 : ERROR : UNKNOWN-ERROR
[11:09] <Baradis> er, Greetings rather
[11:09] <_Gray_> Elektochelovek: its !tell
[11:09] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: I don't know what's up then
[11:09] <Elektrochelovek> _Gray_, thnx!
[11:09] <vbgunz> I assume there is no way to use rm to delete everything in a directory *except* for one sub dir beneath it? correct?
[11:09] <Elektrochelovek> !tell java
[11:09] <Elektrochelovek> !tell Elektrochelovek
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: All right.
[11:10] <_Gray_> vbgunz: try man rm it might give you some ideas
[11:10] <Elektrochelovek> !tell
[11:10] <Baradis> quick inquiry, seeing as I can;t seem to find it on the website
[11:10] <Elektrochelovek> !tell Elektrochelovek -about java
[11:10] <vbgunz> can someone help me out? What am I looking for that will help delete the contents of a directory *except* for a directory beneath it?
[11:10] <_Gray_> !tell Elektrochelovek about java
[11:10] <Baradis> does ubuntu have inherent NVidia video driver support or do you need to install the drivers manually?
[11:11] <_Gray_> baradis: it has nvidia drivers but only 2d
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> _Gray_: Why is Gnomebaker trying to reference mplayer, totem, and java plugins on startup?
[11:11] <Baradis> so for the 3d acelleration you'd have to manually install the binaries?
  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:11] <mjr> Baradis, free 2d drivers are installed by default, the 3d drivers are shipped in the restricted section and are easy to install
[11:11] <vbgunz> _Gray_: I checked info rm, man rm and rm --help. I don't think rm supports this very simple idea *but* I don't dare rule it out... Maybe there is a secret setting or something else I can use :(
[11:12] <Baradis> I'm just checking a few thinga bout ubuntu out befoire I install it on my new computer
[11:12] <_Gray_> tonyyarusso: No idea sorry
[11:12] <Baradis> I ordered a few copies to pass out to my lug
[11:12] <viperX> How do I rename a file in the terminal
[11:13] <calamari_> viperX: mv oldname newname
[11:13] <chaumurky> mv <filename> <newfilename>
[11:13] <chaumurky> :-)
[11:13] <viperX> Thanks guys, you rock!
[11:14] <Baradis> is it just me,. or are the commands in ubuntu similar to those in debian
[11:14] <_Gray_> Baradis: ubuntu is a branch of debian
[11:14] <Baradis> oh
[11:14] <Baradis> that explains that then
[11:14] <_Gray_> Baradis: they take the lasted from Sid and make it into ubuntu
[11:15] <yo2lux> hi
[11:16] <raphink> _Gray_: don't say that to Debian people
[11:16] <_Gray_> raphink: say what?
[11:16] <raphink> Ubuntu is, for a big part, synchronized with Debian and works (approximatively) the same way
[11:16] <raphink> but Ubuntu is not Debian
[11:16] <yo2lux> i think exista a command "import" to make screenshots.. I don't have this command in Ubuntu, what need to install for me?
[11:16] <raphink> hi yo2lux
[11:16] <_Gray_> raphink: yeah true tru
[11:16] <raphink> _Gray_: you could say Ubuntu works close to Debian
[11:17] <joedj> yo2lux: i think it's in imagematick
[11:17] <Baradis> my only problem is
[11:17] <joedj> yo2lux: imagemagick
[11:17] <raphink> as for universe package, we synchronize a lot of Debian package & fix them
[11:17] <Baradis> what to do with 32 ubuntu cd's
[11:17] <Baradis> I orderes 6
[11:17] <raphink> _Gray_: you cannnot say that Ubuntu is a branch of Debian, this is not true
[11:17] <Baradis> wound up with40
[11:17] <winston> leave them in libraries
[11:17] <raphink> Baradis: give them out :D :D
[11:18] <raphink> I ordered 20 and never received them
[11:18] <Baradis> I gave copies to all the members of my lug
[11:18] <raphink> maybe you got mine ;)
[11:18] <_Gray_> Baradis: well it's a simplified explanation.. sorry i wasnt exact
[11:18] <Baradis> perhaps
[11:18] <_Gray_> sorry i meant raphink
[11:18] <Baradis> want some? lol
[11:18] <raphink> hehe
[11:18] <Baradis> I never even orderes the mac ones
[11:18] <_Gray_> when i ordered 5 cds i got 50 lol
[11:18] <Baradis> I don't even think theres a mac in this entire province
[11:18] <winston> lol
[11:18] <raphink> _Gray_: just that if you say that to many debianers, they will (sadly) get mad at you for that ;)
[11:19] <_Gray_> raphink: tell em about it. i just act noob and run lol
[11:19] <ajmitch> raphink: to some debian people, not all
[11:19] <raphink> I didn't say all ajmitch ;)
[11:19] <chaumurky> yeah, the whole fork issue rubs some up the wrong way
[11:19] <raphink> many ubuntu devs being debianers ;)
[11:20] <raphink> ajmitch: I wouldn't be here if I had not been a debianer first
[11:20] <ajmitch> raphink: neither would I :)
[11:20] <raphink> :)
[11:20] <Baradis> the very first distro I ever uses was Libranet, a debian based distro
[11:20] <raphink> ajmitch: as you're around ... did you have some time to review my packages?
[11:20] <saik0> how do I see where a symbolic link points from the CLI
[11:20] <Baradis> never tried the full deb though
[11:20] <viperX> ok, I'm trying to run the new firefox, but I keep getting an error saying that it can't find the mozilla runtime directory. any ideas?
[11:20] <marabunt> Hi all
[11:20] <Baradis> always used a deb variant
[11:20] <Oetzi> hi can anyone tell me where i can get automake 1.5
[11:21] <ajmitch> raphink: nope
[11:21] <raphink> Baradis: then you'll be happy with ubuntu ;)
[11:21] <marabunt>     ?
[11:21] <raphink> ajmitch: seems the REVU day was a bit of a failure... not so many packages were reviewed ... the list is still very long
[11:21] <Baradis> provided I can get this new computer built so I got something to install it on, yeah
[11:21] <viperX> Was that Russian or greek?
[11:22] <ajmitch> raphink: not a failure
[11:22] <_Gray_> Grussian?
[11:22] <marabunt> Russian
[11:22] <raphink>   marabunt
[11:22] <ajmitch> raphink: it's a constant task, reviewing..
[11:22] <marabunt>  ?
[11:22] <_Gray_> anyone here installed dapper?
[11:22] <raphink> sure ajmitch
[11:22] <ajmitch> _Gray_: sure
[11:22] <Baradis> anyone want 10 copies of the mac version?
[11:23] <_Gray_> ajmitch: im gon put it on tonight so i can test it out
[11:23] <raphink> ne znaiu marabunt
[11:23] <ajmitch> _Gray_: it's only recommended if you know how to fix things when they break :)
[11:23] <_Gray_> ajmitch: only one way to find out... lol
[11:23] <marabunt> senks
[11:23] <raphink> marabunt: #ubuntu-ru ?
[11:23] <Mchas> hi whabout xubuntu ...?
[11:24] <Mchas> is there a prevew date ?
[11:24] <raphink> marabunt: v #ubuntu-ru - liudi
[11:24] <qt2> Quick question, does ubuntu's lilo install autoboot a kernel after an amount of time?
[11:25] <_Gray_> qt2: it uses grub
[11:25] <_Gray_> qt2: and yes it  defaults to 10 seconds
[11:25] <qt2> _Gray_, yes, by default it does, however, grub didnt work on the pc i was working on, so lilo had to be installed instead.
[11:25] <_Gray_> qt2: oh makes sense
[11:26] <qt2> _Gray_, i knew grub did, was wondering about lilo.
[11:27] <_Gray_> qt2: in your lilo.conf theres a line delay = <number>
[11:27] <_Gray_> qt2: that shows the delay in tenths of seconds
[11:27] <_Gray_> qt2: so 50 = 5 seconds etc.
[11:28] <qt2> ah, i see.
[11:29] <qt2> _Gray_, i'm trying to get lilo set up to autoboot to the desktop after a restart. ;)
[11:30] <qt2> so i can ssh or vnc
[11:31] <saik0> knowing glxgears is'nt a real bechmark, how man fps should I be getting with nvidia-glx
[11:31] <saik0> many*
[11:31] <_Gray_> saik0: that depends on your card
[11:32] <qt2> so by default, as long as the delay is set, and the default is set to Linux, i should be able to send a remote restart signal, and have it autoboot the new kernel, assuming there's no kernel panic??
[11:32] <saik0> _Gray_ GeForce 6800 128 MB
[11:33] <_Gray_> qt2: yes
[11:33] <joedj> !tell me about repos
[11:33] <qt2> _Gray_, cool.
[11:33] <joe_oblivian> hi everybody I've run into an issue installing ubuntu on a ppc with an existing installation of OS X tiger. My problem has already been described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85438
[11:34] <joe_oblivian> if anybody has a solution... it's welcome
[11:35] <qt2> _Gray_, and it's my understanding that if i check the "log in a user automatically on first bootup" and choose a name, that it will automatically log me into the desktop?
[11:35] <soldieruk400> hi all guess what ? ive lost my sound boo hoo lol
[11:36] <_Gray_> qt2: yes you can have gdm automatically bypass the login screen and just go straight to desktop
[11:36] <_Gray_> qt2: System > Administration > Login Screen Setup is where you can configure it.
[11:36] <qt2> _Gray_, shouldnt it require me to input a password somewhere? o.O
[11:36] <qt2> _Gray_, i know, i already did.
[11:37] <soldieruk400> anyone know how to get the speakers working again ?
[11:37] <_Gray_> qt2: you can have it automatically select a user and you just have to input the password, yes
[11:37] <qt2> _Gray_, err would i be able to start up vnc to enter that password?
[11:38] <qt2> _Gray_, or does the remote desktop client not start till after the password has been entered?
[11:38] <_Gray_> qt2: I haven;t used vnc in ages sorry.
[11:39] <em0ng> My computer seems to freeze every time I try to acquire webcam from XSane. How might I fix this? It looks like it pauses when probing USB ports, because when I reboot my computer I have to unplug+replug my mouse.
[11:39] <qt2> well... i'm not sure if it's specifically vnc.... i'm just refrencing ubuntu's "remote desktop" feature"
[11:41] <soldieruk400> is their some sort of roll back to get ubuntu running like it was before the speekers went mute?
[11:41] <rambo3> what did you do after thay worked
[11:43] <soldieruk400> its gone qiet in here
[11:45] <soldieruk400> hi all or anyone .can any one tell me how to get my sound back ?
[11:45] <_Gray_> soldieruk: what did u do to lose it
[11:45] <soldieruk400> im new to this o/s
[11:46] <soldieruk400> i think i uninstaled somthing by mistake to do with the sound but cant find what it was
[11:46] <dockane> hi all ... is just apt-cache searched for lprngtool. (breezy x86) couldn believe that there is no ubuntu .deb for. finally i found it on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for hoary (multiverse). whats the best solution now to install it ? from source ? the hoary .deb ?
[11:46] <_Gray_> try sudo alsamixer and see if the meters are up and enabled (m to enable/disable)
[11:46] <soldieruk400> when it bootes up it workes bt after that you dont get anything
[11:47] <soldieruk400> thanks gray ill try that
[11:47] <_Gray_> dockane: .deb would be easier and quicker
[11:47] <rambo3> how do you know if it works? alsa passed doesnt tell much
[11:47] <dockane> _Gray_, yes of course ... but its from hoary (multiverse) and i am runnning breezy
 did you uncomment the multiverse entries in /etc/apt/sources.list and sudo apt-get update?
[11:47] <chaumurky> oh
[11:47] <chaumurky> not in Breezy?
[11:48] <dockane> nope
[11:48] <chaumurky> very odd
[11:48] <_Gray_> dockane: maybe request it to backports?
[11:48] <dockane> could find it with apt-cache search and http://packages.ubuntu.com/ either (for breezy)
[11:48] <dockane> _Gray_, is that something like a "oops, we missed it for breezy" ?
[11:49] <_Gray_> dockane: you could go ahead and install from source if you really need it. I'd suggest that you file a bug report and say that its missing
[11:49] <dockane> _Gray_, ok ill do so, thx
[11:54] <Seveas> frej, you there?
[11:55] <john_> hi
[11:56] <dnB> is there a command to display the contents of a file inside the shell?
[11:56] <dnB> not to edit?
[11:56] <dockane> is anybody already registered for https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+bugs and could fill out the bug form (for missing lprng in breezy multiverse)
[11:56] <Arkainium> dnB, try cat?
[11:56] <dnB> Arkainium, ohhh yeah, thanks :D
[11:57] <aeon17x> *meow*
[11:57] <hydroksyde> hello
[11:57] <Seveas> hi hydroksyde
[11:58] <hydroksyde> do you know if you type your password in IRC, it comes up as stars? ********** see?
[11:58] <Seveas> hydroksyde, you've been reading too much bash.org
[11:59] <hydroksyde> damn
[11:59] <ajmitch> hydroksyde: you know that's a silly thing to do in here..
[11:59] <hydroksyde> why?
[11:59] <winston> password, oh yeah:)
[11:59] <Seveas> because it easily gets you kicked for being stupid
[11:59] <raphink> hydroksyde: no comment
[12:00] <raphink> hydroksyde: wanna play <IP_ADDRESS> hacking games too ?
[12:00] <hydroksyde> damn... anybody know of any linspire chat rooms?
[12:00] <St^Anger^19m> anybody know of any java help channel other than ##java?
[12:00] <raphink> hydroksyde: try #linspire maybe ...
[12:01] <hydroksyde> nobody home
[12:01] <raphink> too bad for you
[12:02] <raphink> I don't know why you would ask on #ubuntu about linspire channels. I can't think of a distro that is more different from ubuntu
[12:02] <raphink> (imo)
[12:02] <Seveas> raphink, well, linspire is also debian based and aims for end-user satisfaction
[12:02] <Seveas> In a very different way though...
[12:02] <raphink> that doesn't make it closer to me ;)
[12:02] <ajmitch> hydroksyde: maybe ask your local LUG mailing list, there are a few good ones in NZ :)
[12:03] <hydroksyde> was just hoping i'd find some people that would fall for it in a linspire channel
[12:03] <raphink> there's a different between being debian-based in respect to the debian-way  and taking debian devs as whores
[12:03] <ajmitch> hydroksyde: ah, so you're trolling?
[12:03] <hydroksyde> erm... sort of
[12:03] <ajmitch> I'd suggest you don't try it in any other channels :)
[12:04] <Seveas> I hate trolls in the morning
[12:04] <ajmitch> heh
[12:04] <ajmitch> yes, morning here in NZ now
[12:04] <raphink> yeah
[12:04] <raphink> before they take a shower they smell even worse than usual
[12:04] <Seveas> hmm, afternoon already here (12:04), time to get a shower and breakfast :)
[12:04] <raphink> same time here Seveas :)
[12:04] <St^Anger^19m> same here too
[12:04] <raphink> and same actions to be taken
[12:05] <raphink> ;)
[12:05] <triple5> same here ...;) (time
[12:05] <adas> hi
[12:05] <Seveas> I am NOT showering with you raphink :p
[12:05] <raphink> Seveas: that was clear enough for me, don't worry
[12:05] <adas> is it possible to make domain networks like in windows?
[12:05] <triple5> ehm,  I already had a shower...
[12:05] <St^Anger^19m> :( i need java help but java ppl dont answer to anything...is there anybody who used Swing here? plzzzz...
[12:05] <Seveas> adas, samba can help you there
[12:05] <raphink> sure adas, you can use samba
[12:06] <triple5> maybe use samba?
[12:06] <Fujitsu> I think it is unanymous...
[12:06] <adas> pls?
[12:07] <triple5> adas: serious, it is called samba server
[12:07] <raphink> yep :)
[12:07] <Fujitsu> Honestly.
[12:07] <Fujitsu> !samba
[12:07] <ubotu> I heard samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[12:07] <raphink> truly
[12:07] <Seveas> adas, apt-get install samba, read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/samba
[12:08] <raphink> using smbfs might also be a good way to access your shares easily
[12:08] <raphink> once samba is set
[12:08] <adas> triple5
[12:08] <adas> i mean like win2k3 server can create domains in the network
[12:08] <adas> and it gives the apps needed for the other pcs
[12:09] <triple5> oh
[12:09] <triple5> I guess you have to set it up properly
[12:10] <raphink> adas: you mean domains ?
[12:10] <adas> is it possible to make that on linux only?
[12:10] <raphink> like local dns ?
[12:10] <adas> like network domains
[12:10] <adas> yes
[12:10] <raphink> oh ok
[12:10] <triple5> you would have to create a depository on one server and then edit apt/sources.list on all the clien pcs
[12:10] <raphink> well then you need a dns server if you want to centralize that
[12:10] <triple5> maybe?
[12:11] <adas> but i want the server to provide apps to the pc
[12:11] <raphink> that's not what adas wants triple5
[12:11] <triple5> oops s/depository/repository
[12:11] <adas> is it possible to make disk images
[12:11] <raphink> adas: what do you mean?
[12:11] <adas> and everytime erase all added?
[12:11] <adas> something like in windows
[12:11] <triple5> I think I know what adas means.
[12:11] <raphink> adas: try to forget about how you do it on windows
[12:11] <raphink> and to describe your needs
[12:11] <liable> rsync!
[12:11] <adas> LOl
[12:11] <adas> ok :9
[12:11] <raphink> so we can find a linux solution
[12:11] <adas> rsync ok
[12:12] <adas> i gtg now
[12:12] <adas> thanks for the help
[12:12] <adas> in a few hours i have more time
[12:12] <adas> sorry to bother
[12:12] <triple5> you have a group of pcs like in a Computer pool
[12:12] <adas> bye
[12:12] <adas> yes
[12:12] <adas> but i gtg now ok thanks
[12:13] <triple5> well that was too short to solve anything. but I know what adas means now...
[12:13] <triple5> it interests me, too...
[12:14] <Alpha1> so. Ubuntu.
[12:15] <triple5> howto create a system like that for example useful for a Computerroom
[12:15] <Alpha1> where can I find a list of repositories? I miss kate & konqueror & konsole
[12:16] <triple5> anytime a user logs on, the system is created for this instance, when he logs of, everything is erased except in a private part that can be set, (e.g. a private capacity)
[12:17] <triple5> Alpha1 maybe you should go to #kubuntu ?
[12:17] <Alpha1> ooerr.
[12:17] <Alpha1> thanks triple5
[12:17] <triple5> !kubuntu
[12:17] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[12:18] <Alpha1> ta
[12:21] <fony_vaio> breezy keeps freezing solid after reboots on my Sony Vaio PCG-K415B :-(
[12:21] <fony_vaio> what's the best way of diagnosing the problem? (i've seen other people with the same problem on forums, with no obvious solution provided)?
[12:25] <soldieruk400> hi i have downloaded plugins for firefox and they have gon onto my desktop how do i install them ?
[12:27] <soldieruk400> anyone have the answer ?
[12:28] <raphink> soldieruk400: plugins for firefox are not to be downloaded as such
[12:28] <raphink> they should install directly in firefox when you click on the link
[12:29] <soldieruk400> a no way .howcome?
[12:29] <raphink> no idea I don't use firefox myself anymore
[12:29] <soldieruk400> what do you recomend me using for a new web brouser ?
[12:30] <skwashd> hi all
[12:30] <soldieruk400> im used to windows brousers to see lol
[12:30] <xfree> hi skwashd
[12:30] <Alpha1> how do I get synaptic to use a proxy?
[12:30] <raphink> I use konqueror cause I'm on kubuntu. If you're on ubuntu it's not a great idea imo ;)
[12:30] <skwashd> i have 1 breezy machine which refuses to "remember" the .doc file assoc in ff ... anyone else struck this?
[12:30] <soldieruk400> ok what is a good replace ment for firefox
[12:30] <skwashd> hi xfelon
[12:31] <skwashd> hi xfree
[12:31] <skwashd> damn autocomplete ;)
[12:31] <DeadZed-> What application should I use for mounting hdd partitions (Package that would identify and automount all my partitons and let me unmount them)
[12:31] <xfree> Alpha1, from menu
[12:31] <Knight_Lord> Alpha1 export http_proxy="http://proxy_url:proxy_door" usually works
[12:31] <Alpha1> ta++
[12:31] <xfree> skwashd, haha
[12:32] <soldieruk400> lol im stuck then im on unbuntu lol
[12:32] <skwashd> i have tried removing mimeTypes.rdf and plugins.dat ... playing with mozpluggerrc to see if i can get it to work ...
[12:32] <xfree> Alpha1, from setting >pref>network
[12:32] <skwashd> i have tried telling ff must be 20 times to use /usr/bin/oowrite2
[12:32] <soldieruk400> seems like i will have to sus me firefox out lol
[12:32] <skwashd>  /usr/bin/oowriter2
[12:32] <skwashd> and it refuses
[12:33] <xfree> skwashd, try to use mozilla-boobo
[12:33] <xfree> mozilla-bonobo
[12:34] <skwashd> xfree: sudo apt-get install mozilla-boobo >?
[12:34] <skwashd> grrrr ... can't type tonight
[12:35] <xfree> skwashd, yes but ,mozilla-bonobo
[12:35] <skwashd> xfree: i was about to say not found :)
[12:35] <skwashd> maybe mozilla-booboo would be good ... fixes all of your booboos in ff|moz
[12:37] <xfree> skwashd, haha i hope that :)
[12:38] <xfree> ubuntu come with suspend 2 ? or what
[12:38] <Fujitsu> Suspending to a character of punctuation is not a supported feature, to the best of my knowledge.
[12:38] <skwashd> it could be like clippy ... "It looks like you are trying to fsck your ff install, would you like some help to ensure you totally fsck it up?"
[12:39] <ruiwen> hi.. does anyone know how to install drupal on ubuntu?
[12:39] <Fujitsu> Fx, you mean?
[12:39] <lennard_> _Gray_ are you there?
[12:40] <_Gray_> lennard_ sort of
[12:40] <_Gray_> lennard why whats up?
[12:40] <_Gray_> lennard_ did the kernel upgrade go well?
[12:41] <lennard_> yes and no - at first x didn't load anymore, had to reconfigure
[12:41] <skwashd> xfree: now i am really annoyed with ff
[12:41] <skwashd> after an hour of yelling at the PC ... i worked it out
[12:41] <ruiwen> anyone have experience with drupal?
[12:41] <Fujitsu> Fx is the preferred abbreviation.
[12:41] <lennard_> took me some time, but i found the problem, it sends everything to my tv-out
[12:41] <_Gray_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server?
[12:41] <_Gray_> lennard_: oh
[12:42] <skwashd> Fujitsu: ff == fscking firefox
[12:42] <bigfoot1> how do i enable backports? please teach me step-by-step
[12:42] <xfree> skwashd, ? why
[12:42] <bimberi> !info drupal
[12:42] <skwashd> UI bug ... actially had the association ... but kept on showing the browse button
[12:42] <ubotu> drupal: (fully-featured content management/discussion engine), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 4.5.5-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 472 kB, Installed size: 1928 kB
[12:42] <Fujitsu> If you say do...
[12:42] <Fujitsu> *so
[12:42] <_Gray_> bigfoot1: just remove all single #'s from /etc/apt/sources.list make sure you dont take away any ##'s
[12:42] <bimberi> ruiwen: it's in the universe repository
[12:42] <xfree> Fujitsu, i mean suspend to harddisk above
[12:42] <skwashd> select open with browse ... ok ... and it opens on oowriter2
[12:42] <_Gray_> bigfoot1: then sudo apt-get update
[12:43] <Fujitsu> xfree, that is hibernate...
[12:43] <ruiwen> bimberj: as in to configure it and get it working.. i've installed it from the repository, but i can't find the "sites" directory nor the "settings.php" file mentioned in the drupal docs
[12:43] <El-Presidente> Hello, currently I have PHP generating directories but I always want the FTP user to be able to put files into those directories aswell, so far PHP has access to those newly created directories but the FTP user gets permission denied, is there a way to make a directory, have directories underneath it accessible in everyway to every unix user?
[12:43] <xfree> skwashd, what this you want to open it with ff ?
[12:44] <bimberi> ruiwen: got me there, i only knew of it's existence in the repos
[12:44] <skwashd> xfree: huh?
[12:44] <xfree> Fujitsu, yes that what i mean
[12:44] <lennard_> i tried IgnoreDisplayDevices, ExactModeTimingsDVI and ConnectedMonitor but it still doesnt work
[12:44] <ruiwen> bimberj: s'ok thanx =)
[12:44] <bigfoot1> how can i enable japanese input capability in opera browser?
[12:44] <ruiwen> anyone else know drupal?
[12:44] <Fujitsu> xfree, what is the problem?
[12:44] <xfree> skwashd, drop this :)
[12:44] <Badm4n> where is EU mirror ?
[12:44] <bigfoot1> _Gray_: how do i go to sources.list+
[12:45] <skwashd> xfree: ok
[12:45] <_Gray_> bigfoot1: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:45] <Badm4n> where is EU mirror ?
[12:45] <Ng> ruiwen: it may well have installed a README.Debian, check /usr/share/doc/drupal/ maybe?
[12:45] <xfree> Fujitsu, notwork any more just the suspend to mem but suspend to harddisk not work
[12:45] <skwashd> i will log a bug report on it ... cos the user PC n00b for 5 yrs and ubuntu n00b for life now keeps sending me "its fscked" emails
[12:45] <bimberi> ubotu tell Badm4n about mirror
[12:46] <skwashd> cyaz
[12:46] <bigfoot1> _Gray_: this is my soures.list. How do i put backports in there? Please look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d5650
[12:46] <Badm4n> uboto mirror Europe
[12:47] <bimberi> Badm4n: did you get a /msg from ubotu?
[12:47] <bimberi> !morrir
[12:47] <ubotu> bimberi: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:47] <Badm4n> yes
[12:47] <xfree> bigfoot1, if you do some search on wiki.ubuntu.com you will get the full answer
[12:47] <Badm4n> but i need spesific europe
[12:48] <_Gray_> bigfoot1: just run sudo apt-get update and it should be all good
[12:48] <Badm4n> !mirror
[12:48] <ubotu> methinks mirror is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:48] <_Gray_> bigfoot1: do u have AIM?
[12:49] <_Gray_> bigfoot1: it will be easier to help you there
[12:49] <bigfoot1> _gray_ yes
[12:49] <_Gray_> bigfoot1: add Gray0512
[12:53] <wildman> hello *
[12:53] <El-Presidente> how can I find out which user apache is using?
[12:53] <loyup> my first time using ubuntu, just installed xmms as per instruction on Unofficial Ubuntu 5.04 Starter Guide, but i cant it in the menu or from the command line, can anyone help ?
[12:54] <lennard_>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY mooij
[12:55] <lennard_> doh
[12:55] <wildman> El-Presidente: ps aux | grep http and check the user part of the output?
[12:55] <_Gray_> loyup: it should run when you type xmms in terminal or it isnt installed properly/at all
[12:56] <lennard_> pfew
[12:59] <loyup> _Gray_, thats what i thought, typing xmms at the prompt gives command not found, but when i did apt-get install xmms no errors where reported, so i m a bit stuck now
[12:59] <liam01> loyup you may have to add something to your PATH variable
[01:00] <liam01> type $PATH and see what it says
[01:01] <loyup> liam01, output is bash: /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[01:01] <Nookie^> Hi! All ubuntu developer can't you intergrate wireless-assistant instead of kwifimanager.. Kwifi suck really hard... i have tryed for 2 hour now to get my wireless network to work without any success...
[01:01] <liam01> looks like it should work... have you tried restarting the computer loyup
[01:02] <Nookie^> wireless-assistant is 100 times better and easyer to use... or is there any other client to manage wireless connections
[01:02] <liam01> although it shouldnt matter sometimes it could help
[01:02] <loyup> i havent no, thought was just a windows "feature", :/