[08:55] <indypende> Madpilot, i've configured my scanner and i use it with xsane only as root
[08:55] <aleman> No, I mean about Ubuntu in general... I've been using debian...
[08:55] <ormandj> epiloc, read topic please
[08:55] <ormandj> aleman, ahh. desktop?
[08:55] <bob2> epiloc: yes, read the topic
[08:55] <epiloc> ooohhh, so sorry
[08:55] <aleman> yep desktop...
[08:55] <aleman> kde
[08:56] <meonkeys> mae, I repeat... http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/  ?
[08:56] <indypende> Madpilot, it is a problem of permission for the file /proc/bus/usb/***/***
[08:56] <DualCore> can anybody tell me if i can use ubuntu with my DSL connection?
[08:56] <ormandj> aleman, you'll just find most things are kept better up to date for desktop usage on ubuntu than debian, because of the 6 month release cycle :)
[08:56] <HaNazir> anyone use mutt?
[08:56] <mae> meonkeys, i already said gdesklets way up there, yes :)
[08:56] <bob2> DualCore: yes
[08:56] <ormandj> aleman, you might try kubuntu if you like kde :)
[08:56] <robitaille> HaNazir,  yes
[08:56] <indypende> Madpilot, then if i do a sudo chmod a+rw of the file xsane work perfectly for me!
[08:56] <mae> meonkeys, do you know what script is in charge of writing the /etc/motd file? it seems it is dynamically updated because it always includes the latest hostname
[08:56] <Madpilot> indypende: you might want to post your question to the Ubuntu Forums
[08:56] <meonkeys> mae, pardon me, missed that!
[08:56] <aleman> yes, there I am...
[08:56] <indypende> Madpilot, but every time i reboot the file loose the permissions...
[08:56] <mae> meonkeys, np :)
[08:57] <aleman> still tweaking everything...
[08:57] <ormandj> aleman, hehe, that's the fun in linux ;p
[08:57] <indypende> Madpilot, i've not subscribed the forum...
[08:57] <aleman> well specially the distros that will let you!
[08:57] <ormandj> aleman, if you have a recent video card (ati or nvidia) and you are wanting 3d acceleration, the next step might be getting that functional. there is a lot of information concerning that in ubuntuforums.org :)
[08:57] <meonkeys> mae, nope, but's it's not the motd... dang, I used to know that.
[08:58] <Madpilot> indypende: might be a good time to subscribe,, then... ;)
[08:58] <meonkeys> mae, something to do with getty, maybe?
[08:58] <ormandj> aleman: it's not super-easy yet though, so only play with it if you're comfortable ;)
[08:58] <DualCore> thanks
[08:58] <indypende> Madpilot, to set the permission at every boot... there is a easy way?
[08:58] <aleman> ok, yeah that's where I'm going, I need to configure my nvidia card
[08:58] <bob2> anyone have any idea when it stopped replying?
[08:58] <edulix> wohoo this is already all done. restarting to kde 3.5 :)
[08:58] <ormandj> bob2: yes, i know exactly when
[08:58] <ormandj> i was in the middle of a download :P
[08:58] <ormandj> let me check the timestamps.
[08:59] <Madpilot> indypende: I've got no idea, and I know you've asked here before without any good answers. That's why I suggested the forums, different people and a better place for in-depth discussions
[08:59] <DualCore> does anybody know a site where i could get a guide to help me install a DSL connection on my ubuntu?
[08:59] <meonkeys> mae, here you go: /etc/issue
[08:59] <heatxsink> hello all
[08:59] <indypende> Madpilot, thanks.
[08:59] <Madpilot> !tell DualCore about docs
[08:59] <aleman> thank you see you soon
[08:59] <heatxsink> is the us.archive server down?
[08:59] <bob2> DualCore: you need to be a lot more specific
[08:59] <DualCore> oh
[08:59] <bob2> DualCore: if you're behind a router, just plug it in and you'll be online during the install
[08:59] <Madpilot> heatxsink: they all are, check the /topic
[08:59] <DualCore> no router
[09:00] <bob2> DualCore: if your machine needs to run pppoe, then say so
[09:00] <bob2> DualCore: is it a usb modem?
[09:00] <meonkeys> mae, at least on my Fedora Core 4 box, that's where the virtual console pre-login-prompt text is set. I still haven't switched to ubuntu, but I'm downloading the ISOs now. :)
[09:00] <DualCore> just a PC connected to pppoe
[09:00] <tristanmike> I'm getting errors with apt-get update is anyone else?
[09:00] <bob2> Madpilot: au, ca, us, are all pointing at archive.ubuntu.com
[09:00] <bob2> tristanmike: /topic
[09:00] <DualCore> over ethernet
[09:00] <HaNazir> anyone here familiar with mutt?
[09:00] <meonkeys> HaNazir, ya
[09:00] <Madpilot> bob2: yeah, I know
[09:00] <joetheodd> tristanmike: read the topic
[09:00] <epiloc> when compiling a program, it tends to go to the wrong spot... where is the 'right' spot?
[09:00] <bob2> DualCore: then run "sudo ppoeconf" from a terminal
[09:00] <tristanmike> joetheodd, what does that mean? update dpkg?
[09:01] <ormandj> bob2, roughly 20:45 GMT-10
[09:01] <bob2> epiloc: --prefix=/usr/local/
[09:01] <DualCore> oh ok... thanks
[09:01] <robitaille> HaNazir,  yes, I use mutt sometimes
[09:01] <bob2> ormandj: thanks
[09:01] <HaNazir> meonkeys: u have to set it up by editing the muttrc file right?
[09:01] <ormandj> bob2, machines still respond to ping, but connection refused on port 80.
[09:01] <ormandj> no problem :)
[09:01] <HaNazir> robitaille: for gmail?
[09:01] <bob2> epiloc: in practice you don't very often need to compile things from scratch
[09:01] <tristanmike> joetheodd, sorry, missed the first of it
[09:01] <meonkeys> HaNazir, yep
[09:01] <bob2> ormandj: yeah, I just emailed the admins telling them that
[09:01] <bob2> HaNazir: yes
[09:01] <tristanmike> bob2, sorry, I missed the first of the topic, my apologies
[09:01] <epiloc> bob2, untill archive.ubuntu.com is down :)
[09:01] <robitaille> HaNazir,  not for gmail.  But i should possible  via pop
[09:02] <meonkeys> mae, was that it? /etc/issue?
[09:02] <bob2> epiloc: there are working mirrors
[09:02] <bob2> epiloc: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[09:02] <HaNazir> meonkeys: so i creat the file sinc ei dont have it. so nano -w .muttrc, then what do i add?
[09:02] <bob2> HaNazir: you need to set each option you care about, manually
[09:02] <Knelix> Hey guys...
[09:02] <bob2> HaNazir: you'll want to find a guide on the web that explains it all, or you'll spend a year working onit
[09:02] <mae> meonkeys, theres no doubt that /etc/motd is the correct file to display the login prompt message, /etc/issue just has one line describing the release of ubuntu
[09:02] <Orborde> Is something up with the US repos?
[09:02] <HaNazir> bob2: lol that bad eh?
[09:03] <ormandj> bob2, it might make sense for ubuntu to setup failover machines ;) and do periodic checks to make sure all machines in pool are up, remove those that aren't, alert admins
[09:03] <ormandj> Orbman, topic
[09:03] <bob2> Orborde: /topic
[09:03] <meonkeys> HaNazir, here's an example: www.hserus.net/muttrc.html
[09:03] <Orborde> Oh, sorry.
[09:03] <bob2> ormandj: yes, those tools exist already
[09:03] <Orborde> I read it and still missed it.
[09:03] <HaNazir> meonkeys: thanx
[09:03] <tristanmike> Orborde, me too :)
[09:03] <Knelix> How do I install window borders in Gnome... I download and drag them to the Theme Preferences window... but it tells me the format is invalid... What gives?
[09:03] <ormandj> bob2, i know, i use it across a 2700 server pool :P
[09:03] <meonkeys> mae, I thought you meant for virtual terminals, like when you press CTRL-ALT-F1
[09:03] <tristanmike> I asked not even a minute ago
[09:03] <bob2> ormandj: oh, I mean, they use nagios to detect this sort of thing already
[09:03] <meonkeys> dang, this is a busy channel.
[09:03] <Orborde> tristanmike: Linux users are apparently not known for their critical reading skills :)
[09:04] <ormandj> tristanmike, Orborde, you and about 200 other people in the past 10 minutes :P
[09:04] <tristanmike> lol
[09:04] <meonkeys> HaNazir, just google for muttrc to find more samples.
[09:04] <tristanmike> sorry to have been a burnden
[09:04] <Orborde> ormandj: Well, at least I TRIED to read the topic, though I still failured.
[09:04] <Dalkus> hi, how do I mount a device (mp3 player) that's been attacehd to a usb port?
[09:04] <ormandj> bob2, ahhh. i see :) guess people are just snoozing a bit, they should get some rest :)
[09:04] <ormandj> Orborde, hehe, well, you get an A+ for effort then!
[09:04] <Orborde> How long have the archives been out?
[09:04] <bob2> HaNazir: http://zenii.linux.org.uk/~telsa/BitsAndPieces/cave.html
[09:04] <epiloc> how do i set up the mirror archive?
[09:04] <ormandj> Orborde, just over an hour
[09:04] <bob2> Orborde: an hour or so, it seems
[09:05] <Orborde> That's when the complaints started flooding in, eh?
[09:05] <ormandj> Orbman, yes
[09:05] <bob2> epiloc: you don't, you just configure apt to use a mirror
[09:05] <ormandj> Orborde i meant :)
[09:05] <mae> meonkeys, yes you are absolutely right, issue is what appears :)
[09:05] <Orborde> Maybe we should help the situation by having everyone ping archive.ubuntu.com constantly.
[09:06] <meonkeys> mae, BAM! :)
[09:06] <epiloc> how do i configure apt to use a mirror? :/
[09:06] <ormandj> i think xchat should make a bright flashing red and yellow popup window that can't be closed for 10 seconds that has the topic of any irc room you join, it's amazing how infrequently people check the topic (even I rarely do)
[09:06] <ormandj> epiloc, i do suggest waiting for them to come back up. but if you must, use synaptic and edit the repositories, or edit /etc/apt/sources.list. do make a backup.
[09:07] <Orborde> ormandj: Is Xchat open source? You could write it yourself.
[09:07] <ormandj> Orborde, yes, it is. but it wouldn't help if i wrote it. it wouldn't be in the mainline source :P
[09:07] <cevizoglu> is there a way to invert the background/foreground of a postscript or pdf file in the viewer?
[09:08] <Orborde> ormandj: H4x0r the site and put yours up.
[09:08] <Orborde> ormandj: Duh.
[09:08] <meonkeys> cevizoglu, uh, are you crossposting to all the Linux distro channels? please don't do that.
[09:08] <ormandj> Orborde, lol :)
[09:08] <upgrdman> how do i install mplayer
[09:08] <upgrdman> synaptic cant find a pkg names that
[09:09] <cevizoglu> meonkeys, why?
[09:09] <Orborde> upgrdman: See topic.
[09:09] <Orborde> upgrdman: The repositories are down, so you couldn't get it.
[09:09] <upgrdman> any mirrors?
[09:10] <meonkeys> cevizoglu, hmm. well, I don't know. :) nevermind. I just thought that a mailing list or newsgroup or something might be an easier way to get help on the topic with which you seek enlightenment.
[09:11] <Orborde> Why is the repo giving a connection refused, though?
[09:11] <meonkeys> cevizoglu, IRC seems great for questions with quick answers (usually most are solved by just reading the topic), but anything slightly complex seems better voiced elsewhere.
[09:11] <Orborde> Does that mean the Apache or whatever crashed, but not the system?
[09:11] <ormandj> Orborde, that's what it looks like
[09:11] <Orborde> Darned unreliable Indians.
[09:11] <VXNerve> Hi.  I stopped by to ask about archive.ubuntu.com, however I see that it's down.  Are there any mirrors for archive.ubuntu.com I can use?
[09:12] <ormandj> Orborde, :)
[09:12] <Orborde> HEY! WE HAVE A TOPIC-READER!
[09:12] <Orborde> Sorry.
[09:12] <VXNerve> LOL
[09:13] <Madpilot> VXNerve: you should win a prize or something, for actually reading the topic! ;)
[09:13] <Orborde> Maybe someone should write a script on their client that, whenever someone joins, they automatically send YES THE REPOS ARE DOWN to the channel.
[09:13] <Orborde> ^ouch
[09:13] <Dalkus> what filesystem would an mp3 player have? (what would a memory pen have?) for the mount command?
[09:14] <Madpilot> Orborde: make it go to /msg <new victim> instead, and you'd have a winner!
[09:14] <bob2> Dalkus: it should mount automagically
[09:14] <Orborde> Dalkus: I'd guess FAT, but I really have no idea.
[09:14] <bob2> Dalkus: look at /var/log/syslog to see why it didn't
[09:14] <VXNerve> Thanks.  I'm in Iraq and I just installed Breezy to play around with.  I only have about another hour of computer time left to play with.  I'm probably going to have to wait another couple of days to install some other programs.   Thanks for ya'll help.
[09:14] <Dalkus> bob2, where would I look to see if was mounted? /media?
[09:14] <epiloc> where do i place an executable after i have compiled it?
[09:14] <Dalkus> thanks bob2, osfameron
[09:14] <bob2> Dalkus: "mount"
[09:14] <bob2> epiloc: what are you compiling?
[09:14] <_Trintity_> anyone know if any canadian repositories are down.  update is refused connection
[09:14] <Orborde> VXNerve: Iraq?
[09:15] <Orborde> _Trintity_: See topic.
[09:15] <epiloc> traceroute
[09:15] <VXNerve> Yes
[09:15] <_Trintity_> k
[09:15] <Orborde> VXNerve: In what capacity?
[09:15] <bob2> epiloc: it's really not worht compiling traceroute
[09:15] <VXNerve> I'm a Signal Officer in the US Army.
[09:16] <epiloc> bob2, does ubuntu have a similar prog already installed?
[09:16] <_Trintity_> thanks
[09:16] <jorgeu> hi!
[09:16] <tritium> Orborde, hello from a purdue alum
[09:16] <bob2> epiloc: it has traceroute, yes
[09:16] <Orborde> VXNerve: Ah. Good luck to you/
[09:16] <Madpilot> epiloc: traceroute itself is already in Ubuntu repos...
[09:16] <Orborde> tritium: Hello.
[09:17] <tritium> VXNerve, be safe.
[09:17] <jorgeu> ok, some people here have the same sleeping problems than me
[09:17] <Orborde> It would explain why he's playing around with Linux.
[09:17] <epiloc> Yes, I understand that... but can anyone give me the path to where the executable would be placed?
[09:17] <Orborde> epiloc: which traceroute ?
[09:17] <bob2> epiloc: dude
[09:17] <Orborde> epiloc: Or are you trying to find it off the internet?
[09:18] <Orborde> Oh.
[09:18] <epiloc> it is compiled, but it seems that traceroute.exe is in the wronge spot
[09:18] <bob2> this is not windows
[09:18] <bob2> you do not have .exe files
[09:18] <Orborde> epiloc: What sequence of commands did you put in?
[09:18] <bob2> (unless they're windows-compatible .net things)
[09:19] <Orborde> bob2: Are there any .NET implementations on Linux? I assume not, but it seems remotely possible.
[09:19] <epiloc> ./configure
[09:19] <epiloc> ./make
[09:19] <epiloc> sudo ./make install
[09:19] <Orborde> epiloc: Did it work?
[09:19] <Orborde> epiloc: You don't use ./make. You just use make
[09:19] <bob2> Orborde: apt-cache show mono
[09:19] <Madpilot> epiloc: for traceroute, just type "man traceroute" to get the manual, if you've got it installed off the repos...
[09:19] <thoreauputic> epiloc: probably /usr/local/bin/traceroute then
[09:20] <epiloc> oops, i mean no dotslash on the make and make install
[09:20] <indypende> someone have experienced how to install a creative webcam?
[09:20] <thoreauputic> epiloc: which is in your PATH anyway...
[09:20] <Orborde> epiloc: Type which traceroute
[09:20] <Agrajag> wouldn't traceroute be in one of the sbins?
[09:20] <bob2> Orborde: full mostly-BSD implementation of it all, aside from winforms
[09:20] <Orborde> epiloc: Can you use traceroute at all?
[09:20] <thoreauputic> Agrajag: ah good point...
[09:21] <epiloc> thoreauputic, thanks i will try
[09:21] <epiloc> no traceroute does not exist on my system, there are  no man pages for it
[09:22] <thoreauputic> epiloc: but you claim to have compiled it ? /me is puzzled
[09:22] <epiloc> thoreauputic, up and running, thanks
[09:23] <epiloc> what is so crazy about this?
[09:23] <Madpilot> which traceroute  gets  /usr/sbin/traceroute
[09:23] <teenie> where i can find a plug in for winamp?
[09:24] <epiloc> i download traceroute.tar.gz / i untar it/ ./configure .... make ... make install
[09:24] <Dalkus> teenie, winamp.com ?
[09:24] <Orborde> teenie: What do you mean?
[09:24] <teenie> for ubunyu?
[09:24] <Dalkus> oh
[09:24] <Orborde> epiloc: Okay.
[09:24] <Dalkus> xmms
[09:24] <Dalkus> download it
[09:24] <teenie> ubuntu?
[09:24] <Dalkus> it's just like winamp
[09:24] <epiloc> then mv /usr/local/sbin/traceroute /usr/local/bin/traceroute
[09:24] <epiloc> viola
[09:24] <Orborde> epiloc: That's kind of the long way.
[09:25] <Orborde> epiloc: Why didn't you just use apt-get install traceroute ?
[09:25] <thoreauputic> epiloc: considering you could have just done sudo apt-get install traceroute...
[09:25] <Orborde> epiloc: Well, except that right now the repos are fraggled.
[09:25] <vinboy> h
[09:25] <vinboy> hi
[09:25] <vinboy> why does Ubuntu use esound instead of ALSA?
[09:25] <teenie> is there is a winamp for ubuntu?
[09:26] <vinboy> teenie: beep media player, xmms
[09:26] <thoreauputic> vinboy: not instead of - "with"
[09:26] <teenie> where i can find that?
[09:26] <Orborde> epiloc: Admittedly, it is good practice to learn how to compile stuff from source, but traceroute isn't one there's much of a point in doing that for.
[09:26] <epiloc> because i think that at one point or another in my life i should know how to compile and run a program
[09:26] <Madpilot> teenie: lots of media players...
[09:26] <Orborde> teenie: Know how to use synaptic?
[09:26] <vinboy> thoreauputic, they have both?? how do I enable it?
[09:26] <teenie> can u pls teach me
[09:26] <Orborde> epiloc: Okay.
[09:26] <thoreauputic> vinboy: erm - they are bothe enabled
[09:27] <teenie> yes
[09:27] <vinboy> oh.. ok
[09:27] <Orborde> teenie: Click System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[09:27] <teenie> and what will i do to have that player
[09:27] <Madpilot> teenie: what format are you trying to play? mp3?
[09:27] <teenie> yes
[09:28] <thoreauputic> vinboy: alsa is the sound system/drivers, esound is the sound daemon ( oversimplified)
[09:28] <epiloc> Orborde I am trying to find vulnerabilities in my boss's network, and I am new to linux but learning ...  currently searching for gateway ips to reroute traffic through my machine via arpspoofing
[09:28] <epiloc> he is paying me of course
[09:28] <teenie> and some stream..that required a plug ins
[09:28] <Ming2k> i am receiving "Connection Refused" to us.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com via apt-get, anyone know why?
[09:28] <Madpilot> teenie: you can install mp3 support easily
[09:28] <thoreauputic> Ming2k: /topic
[09:28] <Orborde> teenie: Click search, type in xmms, click xmms in the list and mark for install.
[09:28] <Madpilot> !+mp3
[09:28] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:28] <Madpilot> teenie: see the URL just above ^^^
[09:29] <Ming2k> thoreauputic: oops... cool thanks
[09:29] <thoreauputic> :)
[09:29] <Orborde> teenie: The repositories are down ATM though, so it may be a few hours before you can get it.
[09:29] <Orborde> Ming2k: Join the club.
[09:29] <teenie> what will i do now in my synaptic?
[09:30] <Orborde> teenie: Are you new to Ubuntu/Linux, I'm guessing?
[09:30] <teenie> yes
[09:30] <Madpilot> !tell teenie about repositories
[09:30] <teenie> im a  windows lover
[09:30] <teenie> but now im intersting to learn more in linux
[09:31] <steely> i'm having problems with my video card
[09:31] <Madpilot> teenie: ubotu should just have sent you a couple of links. Read up on them, and check back here later to see if the repository servers are running again
[09:31] <steely> any suggestions?
[09:31] <Orborde> Madpilot: I should learn to use that bot....
[09:31] <Orborde> !tell Orborde about everything
[09:32] <LivingTarget> as the topic says you can actually switch repository servers
[09:32] <Knelix> How do I start up Gnome via the CLI?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> Orborde: now that would be quite a factoid ;-)
[09:32] <Madpilot> !tell Orborde about tell
[09:32] <tristanmike> they will fix the problem eventually, right?
[09:32] <Phempa> ok, so judging by the topic, I take it my problems connectiong to certain repositories are explained there?
[09:33] <thoreauputic> Knelix:  startx `which gnome-session`
[09:33] <bob2> Phempa: if they're archive.ubuntu.com ones, yes
[09:33] <steely> my fps is less than half of what it should be
[09:33] <thoreauputic> Knelix: aalthough just startx would do, probably
[09:33] <Phempa> security.ubunntu.com
[09:33] <Phempa> and...
[09:33] <Madpilot> steely: which graphics card?
[09:33] <Madpilot> Phempa: they're all down...
[09:33] <Phempa> ahh
[09:33] <Phempa> ok
[09:33] <Phempa> thanks :)
[09:34] <bob2> no
[09:34] <bob2> not all are down
[09:34] <Phempa> I cant get anything at all
[09:34] <LivingTarget> some mirrors are working, but not the official ones afaik
[09:34] <Phempa> using Synaptics
[09:34] <bob2> anything that resolves to <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS> is down, tho
[09:34] <Knelix> thoreauputic: That did it. Thanks.
[09:34] <Madpilot> OK, to be accurate, all the offiicial ones are down currently ;)
[09:34] <tristanmike> They will be fixed at somepoint will they?
[09:34] <Phempa> okey dokey
[09:34] <steely> nVidia Corp NV5m64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/model 64 Pro]
[09:34] <thoreauputic> Knelix: no worries :)
[09:34] <xophEr> Could someone help me, where can I find my bus, disk and filesystem drivers in menuconfig? Im trying to compile a new kernel..
[09:34] <Phempa> I thought my computer was hating me here
[09:35] <bob2> I don't think that is true, either
[09:35] <Phempa> :P
[09:35] <rdw200169> being that ubuntu is the top distro, i'm sure they will fix it
[09:35] <bob2> xophEr: why are you trying to compile your own kernel?
[09:35] <steely> does that sound right?
[09:35] <bob2> rdw200169: there's no useful stats to indicate that
[09:35] <LivingTarget> Yeah it's just some down time
[09:35] <tristanmike> cool
[09:35] <Knelix> thoreauputic: Are the processes I had going on before I accidentally quit it still active or no? (They do not show up graphically)
[09:35] <Phempa> later pholks :)
[09:35] <xophEr> bob2, because I need something that 2.6.13 has and 2.6.12 doesnt :)
[09:35] <rdw200169> bob2, distrowatch has ubuntu in the top
[09:35] <xophEr> My NIC isnt supported by 2.6.12
[09:35] <bob2> xophEr: which is?
[09:35] <rdw200169> :)
[09:35] <tristanmike> so I would just add my mirror to the end of the list and apt-get update, just one line?
[09:35] <bob2> rdw200169: distrowatch more or less invents their scores
[09:35] <Ming2k> Is there anyone i need to chat to, if i want to mirror?
[09:35] <Madpilot> !tell steely about nvidia
[09:36] <bob2> tristanmike: it'd have to go on a new line
[09:36] <Ming2k> or can i just run a rsync and publish it?
[09:36] <rdw200169> bob2, linux world gave them a 10/10
[09:36] <tristanmike> bob2, yes, but just one line, untill the others come back online?
[09:36] <bob2> rdw200169: and lots of people like it, yes, but that doesn't mean anyone knows how many people use it :)
[09:36] <bob2> tristanmike: yes
[09:36] <rdw200169> bob2, obviously
[09:37] <tristanmike> bob2, thank you, you are very helpful
[09:37] <teenie> what this it means ? Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/)
[09:37] <cevizoglu> meonkeys, what mailing list or newsgroup are you referring to?
[09:37] <bob2> teenie: the rest of the error message explains it
[09:37] <Orborde> teenie: Probably that you forgot sudo ?
[09:37] <rdw200169> bob2, i can determine, though, that ubuntu is popular b/c of the bitorrent rates for EVER iso of the distro available
[09:37] <dade`> archive.ubuntu.com has http down
[09:37] <bob2> teenie: you either ran it as well as some other packagemanagement tool, or you forgot to run it as root
[09:37] <dade`> also italian mirrors
[09:38] <bob2> dade`: /topic
[09:38] <Gandalf_the_Grey> Ubutnu: hi
[09:38] <joetheodd> Gandalf!
[09:38] <Gandalf_the_Grey> Yes
[09:38] <bob2> rdw200169: right
[09:38] <joetheodd> Nice name =)
[09:38] <Knelix> I guess not.
[09:38] <tristanmike> wow, Gandalf
[09:38] <krom> Hallo
[09:38] <Gandalf_the_Grey> ubotu: Hi
[09:38] <ubotu> niihau
[09:38] <dade`> eheh
[09:38] <Gandalf_the_Grey> ubotu: What is 10 times 10
[09:38] <ubotu> Gandalf_the_Grey: what are you talking about?
[09:38] <Gandalf_the_Grey> :-)
[09:38] <Saruman_the_Whit> 100
[09:38] <Gandalf_the_Grey> Chatterbot
[09:38] <bob2> xophEr: I'm quite serious about asking which things are missing, since if 2.6.12 is missing support for your hardware, that should be added to buntu's kernel
[09:38] <zxsykco> ubotu
[09:39] <teenie> what is the use of wget?
[09:39] <rdw200169> bob2, heck, the constant activity in this forum should be more than enough proof...
[09:39] <zxsykco> !linux
[09:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:39] <Madpilot> teenie: it downloads stuff from the web
[09:39] <bob2> rdw200169: debian has no central web forum, and it still has hundreds of thousands of installations
[09:39] <Radagast_the_Bro> hm, Gandalf_the_Grey is the only name that fists
[09:39] <teenie> ic
[09:39] <zxsykco> !Gandalf_the-Grey
[09:39] <ubotu> zxsykco: Do they come in packets of five?
[09:39] <bob2> so I don't think forum activity is a great test :)
[09:40] <teenie> bob2-https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-ae79fed9d60ccdf06f400ae76ad53867d94bb2b8
[09:40] <teenie> dis what i am follow
[09:40] <dade`> any reason for the downtime of archive.ubuntu.org ?
[09:40] <teenie> but theres a lot of error
[09:40] <bob2> teenie: if you follow those instructions, you will not get that error
[09:40] <rdw200169> bob2, yes, but, for those of us that want the latest and greatest (every 6 mos.) ubuntu is the perfect debian answer
[09:40] <bob2> ok
[09:41] <teenie> k
[09:41] <bob2> dade`: no one knows yet
[09:41] <rdw200169> bob2, consequentially, it also has better support, i.e. ehre
[09:41] <bob2> mmm
[09:41] <bob2> I find it easier to get help with Debian than ubuntu
[09:41] <bob2> ubuntu has a very small number of resident experts
[09:41] <xophEr> bob2, well my NIC needs the sk98lin driver, "Marvell Yukon Chipset / SysKonnect SK-98xx Support" In kernel config. It's a 1000mb eth card, integrated with my ASUS a8v-e Deluxe m/b.
[09:42] <dade`> i can't see the topic after x-common problems ->
[09:42] <LivingTarget> bob2: I'm sure it will get better when it matures
[09:42] <bob2> dade`: read the beginning of it
[09:42] <bob2> LivingTarget: hope so
[09:42] <bob2> xophEr: 2.6.12 has no driver for that at all?
[09:42] <dade`> ..
[09:43] <Agrajag> uh, I belive I have that same board, and it works fine in hoary
[09:43] <dade`> i need the link for xcommon problem
[09:43] <Madpilot> xophEr: I've got the identical mobo & chip, and it works just fine here
[09:43] <bob2> bah
[09:43] <xophEr> Madpilot, well it doesnt work for me.. hmm
[09:44] <Madpilot> xophEr: running Breezy or Hoary?
[09:44] <Jacko115> any updates on the archive.ubuntu.com server?
[09:44] <xophEr> Maybe the kernel has been updated after I last tried..
[09:44] <xophEr> Breezy
[09:44] <robitaille> Jacko115,  no
[09:44] <bob2> Jacko115: they'll be put in the topic if/when there are
[09:44] <bob2> xophEr: have you filed a bug?
[09:44] <mpm2> Can "domain name" be synonymous with "Ip address?"
[09:44] <teenie> how bout dis error? Could not download all repository indexes
[09:44] <bob2> cyphase: the answer in your blog is a bit dodge
[09:44] <Madpilot> xophEr: I'm running Hoary, and it all worked fine, out of the box
[09:44] <bob2> mpm2: no
[09:44] <xophEr> bob2, not yet
[09:45] <Madpilot> teenie: see the topic, please. The repository server is down
[09:45] <xophEr> Madpilot, I tried hoary too, didnt work there either
[09:45] <Orborde> teenie: See topic.
[09:45] <teenie> ic
[09:45] <rdw200169> bob2, then why are you here?
[09:45] <bob2> rdw200169: to try to redress the imbalance
[09:45] <teenie> sory.. 4 dat im just xcited of exploring my ubuntu
[09:47] <mpm2> bob2 so my hostname appears to be "localhost" is that of any relevance on the internet? I'm just trying to put terms like host name and dns server into context
[09:47] <LivingTarget> xophEr: I just update breezy and I did notice a new kernel version: 2.6.12-9
[09:47] <linner> it is official folks.... tritium got my v2000z to load breezy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:47] <bob2> rdw200169: (I don't come here for support)
[09:48] <bob2> mpm2: not really, except that localhost always resolve to ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:48] <mpm2> thank you Bob2
[09:48] <steely> thoreauputic:  video card rocking solid thanks, yet again
[09:48] <liz4rd> whats that vector art program called again?
[09:48] <thoreauputic> steely: :)
[09:48] <steely> god, it's like i need to have my diaper changed
[09:49] <bob2> liz4rd: inkscape
[09:49] <tritium> liz4rd, scribus
[09:49] <tritium> linner, :)
[09:49] <liz4rd> inkscape thats what it was thanks
[09:49] <tritium> yeah, inkscape.  scribus is more desktop-publishing.  sorry
[09:50] <linner> tritium, you rock :)
[09:50] <Myrtti> liz4rd: sodipodi
[09:50] <tritium> I'm just glad you're up and running :)
[09:50] <liz4rd> lol
[09:50] <liz4rd> old but alright
[09:50] <linner|AWAY> me too :)
[09:50] <linner|AWAY> i'll be back in a few minutes... need to spend some time with my sweetie :)
[09:53] <j-linux> Is there a program for Linux/Ubuntu for managing business finance, like quickbooks or peachtree?
[09:53] <Jacko115> is there a list of mirrors for the repository as the one given in the topic seems not to have breezy
[09:53] <heatxsink> j-linux:  there's one in the making
[09:53] <Madpilot> j-linux: gnucash?
[09:53] <heatxsink> called moneyclip
[09:54] <j-linux> Madpilot: I haven't tried gnucash in depth, but will look at it more.  It thought it was more of a smaller "personal" accounting software.
[09:54] <j-linux> heatxsink: I'll check out moneyclip. thanks...
[09:54] <LivingTarget> Jacko115: yes there is actually
[09:55] <joetheodd> wine quickbooks.exe
[09:55] <robitaille> Jacko115,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[09:55] <heatxsink> hehe
[09:55] <joetheodd> =p
[09:55] <LivingTarget> Jacko115: those include the breezy ones
[09:55] <dell500> how do i enable my 2nd crt monitor to act as an extended desktop, not cloned. i'm using fglrx right now, should i use radeon drivers instead?
[09:55] <j-linux> joetheodd: ok... good idea
[09:55] <j-linux> joetheodd:  but I wish there was a free software alternative
[09:55] <Wilf> which .conf file do i edit to tell the system how much ram it has?
[09:55] <joetheodd> j-linux, I'm not sure how well that'll work, but I'd give it a try
[09:55] <Wilf> it
[09:56] <Wilf> isn;t detecting it
[09:56] <thoreauputic> dell500: haven't used it, but you might be looking for xinerama
[09:56] <joetheodd> j-linux: I'm sure there is
[09:56] <joetheodd> Wilf: It doesn't autodetect?
[09:56] <j-linux> joetheodd: well... I don't have quickbooks yet.  I'd prefer not to buy it
[09:56] <joetheodd> j-linux: ah, ok, might wanna search freshmeat and stuff
[09:57] <robitaille> Wilf,   how much ram you have, and how much ubuntu thinks you have?
[09:57] <youngcoder> everytime i open firefox it starts to load and then shuts down.. anyone got any idea why?
[09:57] <joetheodd> Wilf, if Ubuntu thinks you have less ram than you actually have, you might have some bad RAM. Try memtest86.
[09:57] <j-linux> joetheodd: I will.  I looked around here:http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml but didn't see anything free
[09:57] <Orborde> youngcoder: When did this start?
[09:58] <youngcoder> yesterday
[09:58] <Orborde> youngcoder: You could try starting FF with the profile manager.
[09:58] <youngcoder> when i tried to uipdate firefox
[09:58] <thoreauputic> Wilf: youare probably using a 386 kernel with more than 900Mb RAM ,, right?
[09:58] <youngcoder> ok
[09:58] <joetheodd> wine Explorer.exe (no..)
[09:58] <joetheodd> er, iexplore.exe
[09:58] <youngcoder> Orborde, hoe do i start with profile manager?
[09:58] <Orborde> youngcoder: Let me look it up....
[09:59] <Wilf> heh
[09:59] <Wilf> it is a dodgy ex cash register POS machine
[09:59] <Wilf> 64mb ram
[09:59] <VoX> has the problem of apt removing libdri been fixed yet?
[09:59] <Wilf> ubuntu says: unknown
[09:59] <Jacko115> robitaille: cheers
[09:59] <Orborde> youngcoder: firefox -ProfileManager
[09:59] <thoreauputic> Wilf: ROFL - I couldn't have been more wrong :D
[09:59] <Orborde> youngcoder: Try creating a clean profile and see if you can get in that way.
[09:59] <Wilf> :P
[10:00] <youngcoder> Orborde, ok
[10:00] <Orborde> youngcoder: If so, it might be that your profile is corrupted.
[10:00] <Wilf> AMD K6-2 333mhz CPU - it doesn't detect that either
[10:00] <youngcoder> ok
[10:00] <thoreauputic> Wilf: but it's up and running OK ?
[10:00] <Wilf> kind of\
[10:00] <Wilf> yes it is up and running
[10:00] <Wilf> but at 640x480
[10:00] <Wilf> and i have no idea what the hardware specs are
[10:01] <Wilf> and it is slow as hell.
[10:01] <joetheodd> shift to the left! shift to the right! push down, pop up, byte byte byte!
[10:01] <joetheodd> The programmers cheer!
[10:01] <Wilf> much slower then my P1 166/32mb RAM machine
[10:01] <youngcoder> ok Orborde , i tried to run my default profile with profile manager and it said the profile was in use but no firefox was running
[10:01] <thoreauputic> Wilf sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:01] <glick> get a decent machine i implore you!
[10:01] <thoreauputic> Wilf: *grin*
[10:02] <joetheodd> I should try to install Ubuntu on my old 4mb RAM 68k machine
[10:02] <joetheodd> That would be pretty funny
[10:02] <Agrajag> there's no 68k ubuntu
[10:02] <Wilf> i tried it on my 486 25mhz 8mb
[10:02] <thoreauputic> Wilf: you need the twin slice toaster kernel ;)
[10:02] <Wilf> didn;t work
[10:02] <joetheodd> Error: Wtf is this piece of garbage?!
[10:02] <joetheodd> Yeah, I know
[10:03] <cevizoglu> Wilf, there's a reason for that
[10:03] <Wilf> 16 bit cpu?
[10:03] <joetheodd> Plus I don't have a keyboard nor mouse for it =p
[10:03] <glick> i thought the 68k was 32 bit
[10:04] <linuxboy_> how can i hide the disk on the desk?
[10:04] <glick> the later versions of it
[10:04] <joetheodd> 68k is from like.. the early 90s
[10:04] <linuxboy_> hello
[10:04] <danwsb> Is there any word on *why* the official repos are down?
[10:04] <glick> 68k is still a widely used chip
[10:05] <joetheodd> How do I change my resolution in KDE?
[10:05] <linuxboy_> how can i hide the disk on the desk
[10:05] <ppz> hey, if i want to get cedega/Point2Play how wold i go about that ? =)
[10:05] <Wilf> Cirrus Logic GD7548 mean anything to anyone?
[10:05] <thoreauputic> ppz: get your credit card out
[10:05] <joetheodd> glick: Yeah, so is the 8080
[10:05] <joetheodd> glick: The 8080 is used in calculators
[10:05] <youngcoder> Orborde, ?
[10:05] <Wilf> ah, it's the video card!
[10:05] <ppz> thoreauputic: no package from the cvs ?
[10:06] <tritium> good night, folks
[10:06] <linner|AWAY> tritium, hey there
[10:06] <linner|AWAY> just wanted to say thank you one more time
[10:06] <tritium> linner|AWAY, no problem :)
[10:06] <ompaul> ppz it is not free software - it costs money and it is not part of ubuntu there is a build that will work with ubuntu
[10:06] <glick> the 68k has advanced computing uses beyond the 8080
[10:06] <sauli_> arent ubuntu repositories working right now? or is the problem on my computer?
[10:06] <Orborde> youngcoder: ps ax | grep firefox
[10:06] <glick> from pda's
[10:06] <linner> good night dear :)
[10:06] <glick> to TI calculators
[10:06] <Orborde> youngcoder: Does it show anything besides grep ?
[10:06] <glick> etc, etc
[10:07] <linner> if you hear from nalioth please ask him to msg me
[10:07] <thoreauputic> tritium: ah, of course :(
[10:07] <cevizoglu> no, the 68k was 32bit
[10:07] <ppz> ompaul: ok, so i wold look for a .tgz package or another type ?
[10:07] <linner> thoreauputic, tritium got my laptop to run breezy after 7 LONG days of tries
[10:08] <ompaul> ppz, no idea don't use windows software, so therefore I don't need that stuff, however from being here I find that people use it, that is the full extent of my knowledge of it
[10:08] <linner> hey ya'll what is the IRC command for "last seen"
[10:08] <Toma-> ppz: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24373.html
[10:08] <glick> anyone here use skype?
[10:08] <glick> how is it?
[10:08] <linner> glick
[10:08] <linner> on my PC yes
[10:08] <thoreauputic> linner: yes, so I gathered! Good stuff! :))
[10:08] <linner> LOVE IT
[10:09] <ppz> thx ompaul and Toma-
[10:09] <linner> thoreauputic, just thought i'd let you know ... again :)
[10:09] <joetheodd> glick: I know my TI-83+ uses an i8080
[10:09] <glick> cause i see they have a linux version
[10:09] <youngcoder> Orborde, yes
[10:09] <linner> glick, yes I have it downloaded
[10:09] <ompaul> linner, /msg ubotu seen blah << where blah is the user name
[10:09] <linner> glick, haven't got it compiled yet though
[10:09] <hud> hmm, I just installed ubuntu for the first time, is there a sample sources.list for apt-get etc that will actually work? I get unable to connect with the sample on the wiki
[10:09] <linner> ompaul, thank you :)
[10:09] <thoreauputic> glick: skype works well
[10:09] <glick> i wonder if its only a matter of time before they sell it to some company that will put adds and spyware into it
[10:09] <youngcoder> Orborde,  8176 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin -a firefox
[10:09] <youngcoder>  8527 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep firefox
[10:09] <joetheodd> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=707 << YAY!
[10:10] <Orborde> youngcoder: Type kill 8527 -9
[10:10] <glick> heh they also use the 8080 as keyboard controllers
[10:10] <ompaul> linner, /whowas blah << where the user has gone away and you want info on what they sayd they were
[10:10] <amichai_> where do i go for dpkg probs? i dont see i in the topic anymore
[10:10] <Orborde> youngcoder: Assuming no Firefox is running.
[10:10] <Orborde> youngcoder: Close all FF windows you can first.
[10:10] <glick> i dont kow anyone else that uses skype though
[10:10] <linner> oh okay ... it's been so long since I've done this... like 1997... i've forgotten all the switches
[10:10] <youngcoder> Orborde, bash: kill: (8527) - No such process
[10:10] <youngcoder> bash: kill: (-9) - No such process
[10:10] <hud> hmm, I just installed ubuntu for the first time, is there a sample sources.list for apt-get etc that will actually work? I get unable to connect with the sample on the wiki (please /msg me)
[10:11] <thoreauputic> glick: several people here use it
[10:11] <Orborde> youngcoder: Do ps ax | grep firefox again.
[10:11] <HaNazir> anyone else having apt-get errors?
[10:11] <hud> hanazir: me too
[10:11] <Orborde> HaNazir: TOPIC
[10:11] <thoreauputic> HaNazir:  /topic
[10:11] <hud> tryiah
[10:11] <hud> ah
[10:11] <linner> ompaul, actually the last command didn't work
[10:11] <hud> he gets an answer but not me, you guys are poopy
[10:11] <hud> :P
[10:11] <HaNazir> thoreauputic, i dont see it in the topic anymore
[10:11] <HaNazir> ah ok
[10:11] <youngcoder> Orborde,  8176 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin -a firefox
[10:12] <youngcoder>  8569 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep firefox
[10:12] <Orborde> youngcoder: kill -9 8176
[10:12] <leon> hello everyone
[10:12] <Toma-> youngcoder: what are u trying to accomplish?
[10:12] <Orborde> Toma-: His Firefox is crashing at startup.
[10:12] <cevizoglu> HaNazir, the first line of the topic
[10:12] <youngcoder> Toma-, i am trying to get my default FF profile out of use
[10:12] <youngcoder> Orborde, no error
[10:13] <youngcoder> let me check it nwo
[10:13] <ompaul> linner, check under the tab ubuntu servers
[10:13] <cevizoglu> oops
[10:13] <Orborde> youngcoder: Okay, start Firefox and try creating a clean profile.
[10:13] <linner> is there an easy setting for my laptop power options?
[10:13] <linner> ompaul, ok
[10:13] <youngcoder> Orborde, i only show grep now
[10:13] <Orborde> youngcoder: With profile manager.
[10:13] <Orborde> youngcoder: yeah, it's dead.
[10:13] <Toma-> for some stupid reasn the firefox script makes all debugging output goto null. stoopid
[10:14] <cevizoglu> Toma-, because all shipped software does just that
[10:14] <Toma-> its sad :(
[10:15] <youngcoder> Orborde, so i lose all my favorites and bookmarks?
[10:15] <glick> how do i unstall the skype deb file?
[10:15] <linner> !tell linner about laptops
[10:15] <glick> just dpkg -i skype.deb?
[10:15] <linner> hmm...
[10:15] <thoreauputic> glick: yep
[10:15] <linner> !tell linner about wifi
[10:15] <Toma-> why not use apt?
[10:16] <Orborde> youngcoder: We can recover them once we have FF working.
[10:16] <leon> howto choose the fastest mirror, like netselect-apt in debian?
[10:16] <HaNazir> ok i did that fix and i still cant update
[10:16] <thoreauputic> Toma-: the apt version of skype has some issues on breezy I believe
[10:16] <Toma-> i see
[10:17] <HaNazir> i get could not connect to
[10:17] <thoreauputic> Toma-: the static version seems to work OK
[10:17] <ohphracku> The ubuntu community is doing a great job! I got several friends who have no expertise with linux to migrate to ubuntu, they all "really like ubuntu"
[10:17] <youngcoder> ok Orborde when i start FF it brings up profile manager and says that the new profile i created is in use
[10:17] <sauli_> is there some problem with ubuntu repository servers?
[10:17] <Orborde> youngcoder: Hmm...weird.
[10:17] <Orborde> sauli_: /topic
[10:17] <ohphracku> yes their down
[10:17] <thoreauputic> sauli_:  /topic
[10:18] <Orborde> thoreauputic: I win.
[10:18] <ohphracku> hehe
[10:18] <robotgeek> youngcoder: then you must have another copy of firefox running somewhere
[10:18] <thoreauputic> Orborde: easily ;-)
[10:18] <HaNazir> thoreauputic, sudo apt-get upgrade dpkg, not working
[10:18] <Orborde> HaNazir: Because the repos are down.
[10:18] <sauli_> ohups, its just too up for mee to see it :)
[10:18] <robotgeek> HaNazir: you have to change mirrors, see /topic
[10:18] <thoreauputic> HaNazir: of course it won't work if the server is down... ?
[10:19] <linner> !tell me about ndiswrapper
[10:19] <HaNazir> well everyone is saying a different thing
[10:19] <youngcoder> robotgeek, no ff process shown running in system monitor
[10:19] <robotgeek> HaNazir: i know, things are a bit crazy!
[10:19] <robotgeek> youngcoder: ps -ef | grep firefox
[10:20] <Orborde> robotgeek: I had youngcoder kill FF using ps ax + grep + kill
[10:20] <robotgeek> youngcoder: weird, though
[10:20] <ohphracku> bbl
[10:20] <robotgeek> Orborde: :)
[10:20] <youngcoder> ok ps -ef | gerp firefox done
[10:20] <HaNazir> robotgeek, lol. i'll just come back in a couple of hours :)
[10:21] <youngcoder> now what?
[10:21] <glick> hmm
[10:21] <glick> i have problems installing
[10:21] <sauli_> does anybody have guess when will archive.ubuntu.com come back?
[10:21] <cantona_> apt or aptitute is better? i mean apt install|upgrade|dist-upgrade vs aptitute install|upgrade|dist-upgrade
[10:21] <glick> i get something about a dependancy problem
[10:21] <Wilf> what are the keys to swich run levels again?
[10:21] <Wilf> ctrl+alt+fx?
[10:21] <glick> when i add the repository in synaptic as explained in the skype howto in the wiki
[10:22] <thoreauputic> glick: yes - try the static package on the site
[10:22] <Madpilot> cantona_: Synaptic > *   ;)
[10:22] <Orborde> youngcoder: Try making *another* profile for now?
[10:22] <ompaul> +r anyone
[10:23] <Orborde> youngcoder: If that doesn't work, you could try sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox , assuming you are lucky enough to have the package cached locally.
[10:23] <Orborde> youngcoder: You could also try #firefox
[10:23] <youngcoder> ok
[10:23] <procrastinator> why connection refused on archive.ubuntu.com
[10:23] <procrastinator> ?
[10:24] <VoX> procrastinator: type '/topic'
[10:24] <Orborde> youngcoder: And I think Mozilla has their own IRC servers you can try, too.
[10:24] <procrastinator> VoX: Oh. Duh.
[10:24] <rikugun> is there someone could speak chinese to me?
[10:24] <VoX> heh
[10:24] <cantona_> maddler: no gui
[10:25] <youngcoder> ok
[10:25] <youngcoder> Orborde, i got errors
[10:25] <Orborde> youngcoder: Doing what?
[10:26] <leon>
[10:26] <cantona_> leon: most of ppl in here dont know chinese
[10:26] <spiral> Could not connect to uk.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[10:26] <spiral> is it normal ?
[10:26] <thoreauputic> spiral: /topic
[10:26] <robotgeek> spiral: /topic
[10:27] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: :)
[10:27] <spiral> oh sorry...
[10:27] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: well I had to win one today at least ;)
[10:27] <steely> how do i find out what to call my cd rom drive in the root command prompt?
[10:27] <trygvebw> what's going on with the Breezy repository?
[10:27] <steely> to run ls -la?
[10:27] <trygvebw> is the server down?
[10:28] <Orborde> trygvebw: /topic
[10:28] <thoreauputic> steely: ls -l /dev/cdrom ?
[10:28] <trygvebw> oh
[10:28] <trygvebw> Orbman: thanks.. :)
[10:28] <Orborde> We should really keep score on who can say /topic first.
[10:28] <steely> thanks
[10:28] <thoreauputic> steely: or do you want to view files? /media/cdrom
[10:29] <steely> no, that was the answer
[10:29] <thoreauputic> steely: OK
[10:29] <steely> almost ok, so far
[10:30] <youngcoder> the apt-get reinstall commande Orborde
[10:31] <ppz> hmm, how about Nvidia drivers ?
[10:31] <youngcoder> broken pipe Orborde
[10:32] <glick> hey, i thought that whatever i put in my ./bin folder will automatically be put into my path
[10:32] <StrikeForce> is everyone else getting connection revused?
[10:32] <ormandj> read /topic :)
[10:32] <Orborde> youngcoder: If you don't already have the package stored locally, you're kind of SOL until the repositories come back. Or you could read the topic and try a mirror.
[10:32] <glick> but its not working anymore
[10:32] <Orborde> StrikeForce: /topc
[10:32] <VoX> StrikeForce: look at the topic
[10:32] <ormandj> orborde: beat you beat you :P
[10:32] <StrikeForce> ahh k
[10:32] <StrikeForce> lol
[10:32] <Orborde> ormandj: That was indeed fast.
[10:32] <youngcoder> Orborde, omg just noticed the topic lol
[10:32] <StrikeForce> I can't see the whole topic in xchat :(
[10:32] <leon> anyone in china? is there any archive mirror fast enough?
[10:32] <VoX> ormandj: yes but it wasn't directed at him :P
[10:33] <ormandj> vox: well, that's because i made a macro for a keypress to output it :P
[10:33] <VoX> 18:32:59 -!- Topic for #ubuntu: yes, archive.ubuntu.com is down, chill out; mirrors at wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive | Official Ubuntu Help channel | Colony 5 is out: http://tinyurl.com/85dry | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes | Documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation | Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Found a bug?
[10:33] <ompaul> StrikeForce do a >>/topic<<
[10:33] <VoX>  http://buzilla.ubuntu.com | Firefox bproblems? -> see http://tinyurl.com/8cv9q | x-common problems -> upgrade dpkg
[10:33] <Orborde> ormandj: You are the cheet.
[10:33] <ormandj> orborde: i like to win :P
[10:33] <ompaul> VoX, no need a user can hit that command themeselves :)
[10:33] <youngcoder> StrikeForce, lol yes you can hover your mouse over the topic
[10:33] <Orborde> ormandj: I'm just angry because I don't know how to assign triggers/scripts in Xchat.
[10:34] <StrikeForce> youngcoder, I didn't know that :) thanks
[10:34] <Shaoqi> i'm having problems with synaptic, i cant reload packages or install packages, i receive error messages instead. anyone can help with this?
[10:34] <VoX> ompaul: i took what he said to mean that /topic wasnt showing everything :P
[10:34] <ormandj> x-chat menu
[10:34] <StrikeForce> no I know that command
[10:34] <ormandj> load plugin/script
[10:34] <tristanmike> mp3 is gstreamer0.8-mad and what other package?
[10:34] <ormandj> :)
[10:34] <Orborde> Shaoqi: /topic
[10:34] <youngcoder> StrikeForce, your welcome
[10:34] <Shaoqi> ok. sorry
[10:34] <Shaoqi> Orborde, thanks
[10:34] <Orborde> Shaoqi: S'okay.
[10:35] <Madpilot> !tell tristanmike about mp3
[10:35] <emile> from what pkg/source/file does ubuntu get its sources.list during install?
[10:35] <HiddenFly> when i boot, i get error "Special device /dev/sda6 does not exist" and it doesnt mount my sata drive. however i can mount it after logging in, how to fix that?
[10:36] <glick> can i try my skype?
[10:36] <ormandj> emile: dunno, i just made an internal dns server which points it to my mirror :)
[10:36] <glick> can i call someone?
[10:36] <ormandj> or you could use transparent redirection
[10:36] <tristanmike> Madpilot, thanx, I've been there, I'm just trying to seperate the individual packages and not all of the other ones, and of course w32codecs isn't available anymore
[10:36] <emile> ormandj: if i want to restore the original sources.list what to do?
[10:37] <draug_n> HiddenFly: seems like you're not loading the scsi modules at boot..
[10:37] <ormandj> tristanmike, that's easy. its on the mplayer website i think
[10:37] <HiddenFly> draug_n: ok, how can i do that?
[10:37] <glick> can i call someone on skype?
[10:37] <glick> to test mine?
[10:37] <emile> glick: echo123 for skype testing
[10:37] <thoreauputic> glick: you can skype me on " thoreauputic' if you like ;-)
[10:38] <glick> thanks emile, thoreauputic
[10:38] <LivingTarget> i wrote a little guide about how to change your mirror service, hope it helps:
[10:38] <LivingTarget> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=370159&postcount=18
[10:38] <ormandj> good work LivingTarget :)
[10:38] <ormandj> glick: i dont have skype, sorry
[10:39] <ormandj> when ebay bought them, i deleted it :P
[10:39] <ormandj> read /topic
[10:39] <ormandj> :P
[10:39] <ormandj> ok bbl friends :)
[10:39] <robotgeek> tristanmike: you can also get torrents at http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[10:39] <holycow> myth tv with a remot is damned addictive
[10:40] <youngcoder> ok
[10:41] <tristanmike> robotgeek, now that's cool, thanx
[10:41] <draug_n> HiddenFly: edit /etc/mkinitrd/modules and add sd_mod and scsi_mod. you might also ned a drvier for the sata controller (i use sata_nv, as i have an nvidia mobo)
[10:41] <youngcoder> Orborde, i used synaptic to remove then install firefox.. i lost everything but it works again
[10:41] <draug_n> s/ned/need/
[10:41] <HiddenFly> k
[10:41] <youngcoder> Orborde, it could be worse :)
[10:41] <robotgeek> tristanmike: :)
[10:41] <Orborde> youngcoder: You may yet be able to recover your bookmarks from ~/.mozilla
[10:42] <HiddenFly> draug_n: so i just put there "sd_mod" and nothing else to a line, right?
[10:42] <tristanmike> robotgeek, a big =)
[10:42] <youngcoder> Orborde, i will see if i can
[10:42] <DualCore> how can i access a shared folder from a windows PC? it asks me for a username and password?
[10:42] <blekos> morning ppl
[10:42] <daejavu> hello to all
[10:42] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i know cause i made them :). but apokryhpos hosts them!
[10:42] <blekos> it's a beatiful day round here
[10:42] <blekos> :)
[10:43] <DualCore> gud day blekos
[10:43] <DualCore> :)
[10:43] <robotgeek> blekos: it's 4:00 am , and i am going to grab another beer!
[10:43] <tristanmike> robotgeek, good man (i assume) yourself, same with apokryhpos too
[10:43] <blekos> do u have any probs with the repositories 2day?
[10:43] <blekos> lol...
[10:43] <glick> sweet
[10:43] <DualCore> i do
[10:43] <blekos> where u from robot?
[10:43] <glick> skype is nice
[10:43] <robotgeek> blekos: /topic
[10:43] <benplaut> i'm on a laptop with an external CRT. When i'm just using the laptop screen, moniter not connected, videos work fine. When i am on both moniters, with the laptop closed and the moniter as my only screen, the sound will play, but the video shows up black. Any suggestions? It does this on all media players...
[10:44] <tristanmike> robotgeek, is that posted in the forums?
[10:44] <blekos> sorry :)
[10:44] <daejavu> ive downloaded drivers for my S3Unichrome vga chipset ... its comes in 2 files .. a Kernel Src and Bin in tgz format .. which one should i install first ?
[10:44] <robotgeek> blekos: me from tx,usa
[10:44] <blekos> here it's only 12... :)
[10:44] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i don't think so
[10:44] <blekos> njoy ur beer
[10:44] <youngcoder> Orborde, what extension should my bookmarks file have?
[10:44] <robotgeek> blekos: thanks!
[10:44] <robotgeek> youngcoder: .html
[10:44] <Orborde> youngcoder: Filename is bookmark.html
[10:44] <DualCore> can anybody help me share a linux folder that is accessible from a windows PC?
[10:44] <tristanmike> robotgeek, do you mind if i post, i'll credit you and apokryhpos
[10:45] <benplaut> herm
[10:45] <benplaut> some bots in here tonight...
[10:45] <Orborde> DualCore: Are you trying to access a folder on a Linux machine from a Windows one?
[10:45] <draug_n> HiddenFly: yes. one module per line
[10:45] <tristanmike> robotgeek, there are people looking for it in a post I see
[10:45] <blekos> if i may say so Ubuntu rocks...
[10:46] <DualCore> yes Orborde
[10:46] <robotgeek> tristanmike: go right ahead!
[10:46] <blekos> with a few hands on things...
[10:46] <Orborde> DualCore: You need to get samba
[10:46] <tristanmike> thanx
[10:46] <DualCore> it asks me for a username and password
[10:46] <robotgeek> tristanmike: please do seed!
[10:46] <Orborde> DualCore: Okay.
[10:46] <DualCore> im lost :)
[10:46] <HiddenFly> draug_n: there reads in that file that i should run something like mkinitrd(8) after it, what is that?
[10:46] <tristanmike> sure
[10:46] <Orborde> DualCore: Try the username/password of a user on the hosting computer ?
[10:46] <daejavu> ive downloaded drivers for my S3Unichrome vga chipset ... its comes in 2 files .. a Kernel Src and Bin in tgz format .. which one should i install first ?
[10:46] <HaNazir> i'm using mutt so i start, then press c and then enter<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and it says connecting all the time any ideas?
[10:46] <DualCore> i did dat... nothing happens
[10:46] <HiddenFly> i typed it to console but it gave me an error :/
[10:47] <Orborde> DualCore: *Nothing* happens?
[10:47] <youngcoder> ok Orborde it doesnt seem to be recoverabl;e
[10:47] <draug_n> HiddenFly: sudo mkinirtd should do the trick...
[10:47] <youngcoder> no biggie though
[10:47] <Orborde> DualCore: You're working from the Windows machine, right?
[10:47] <HiddenFly> k
[10:47] <DualCore> yes.. it returns to the prompt... asking me the usename and password
[10:47] <DualCore> yes
[10:47] <draug_n> *mikinitrd
[10:47] <Orborde> youngcoder: Sorry.  My bad.
[10:47] <HiddenFly> bash: mkinirtd: command not found
[10:48] <Orborde> HiddenFly: Could try spelling it right.
[10:48] <youngcoder> nah i used synaptic without being told knowing it would prolly do that
[10:48] <DualCore> do i need to set a username and password somewhere?
[10:48] <HiddenFly> it tells me some parameters now i should use that i have no idea about :P
[10:48] <Orborde> DualCore: How are you going about connecting to the share?
[10:48] <robotgeek> HiddenFly: it's mkinitrd
[10:48] <HiddenFly> yea i know
[10:49] <robotgeek> HiddenFly: ok
[10:49] <DualCore> ok.. i wanted to share my documents folder and i right clicked on it and then clicked on share folder
[10:49] <daejavu> Can anyone help me ?  with some driver issues ?
[10:49] <HiddenFly> it gave me now some parameters i should use but i have no idea what to use and how
[10:50] <Orborde> DualCore: You're trying to access a share hosted on a Windows machine from a Linux one?
[10:50] <joetheodd> Wheres the sources.list file located?
[10:50] <tristanmike> robotgeek, all that's needed is a "sudo dpkg -i <filename>" right?
[10:50] <DualCore> no.. im trying to access a shared linux folder from my windows ps
[10:50] <robotgeek> daejavu: it's better to state your issues. maybe someone will know
[10:50] <DualCore> pc*
[10:50] <Orborde> joetheodd: /etc/apt/sources.list I think.
[10:50] <robotgeek> tristanmike: yip
[10:50] <daejavu> robotgeek, ive downloaded drivers for my S3Unichrome vga chipset ... its comes in 2 files .. a Kernel Src and Bin in tgz format .. which one should i install first ?
[10:50] <tristanmike> I'm getting the hang of this Linux thing
[10:50] <tristanmike> :)
[10:51] <_rb_> hey whats the deal with libc6 ? why wont my ubuntu upgrade to what its supposed to be ?
[10:51] <Orborde> DualCore: Okay.
[10:51] <robotgeek> daejavu: isn't there a readme file?
[10:51] <Orborde> DualCore: So how are you trying to access the share once you have it set up?
[10:51] <benplaut> tristanmike: you _are_ one of the more active people around here...
[10:51] <draug_n> HiddenFly: sudo mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-sata; sudo ln -sf /boot initrd.img-sata initrd.img
[10:51] <Orborde> DualCore: Or is it asking for a password when you click "Share Folder" ?
[10:51] <DualCore> nope
[10:51] <HiddenFly> draug_n: ok thanks
[10:51] <robotgeek> tristanmike: you been here longer than i've been around!
[10:51] <_rb_> says that its up to the most recent version BD I KNOW THERE ARE NEWER ONES
[10:52] <daejavu> robotgeek, yes there is ... but i was hoping someone has the same chip and might help me from his experience :)
[10:52] <draug_n> HiddenFly: try that and reboot
[10:52] <slibs> can you guys help me get mkv videos work?
[10:52] <vinboy> hi
[10:52] <vinboy> when willl the Breezy get released?
[10:52] <DualCore> from the windows network neighborhood... i can see the linux folder that i shared
[10:52] <Orborde> vinboy: Next month.
[10:52] <vinboy> i'm looking toward it
[10:52] <vinboy> really?
[10:52] <vinboy> tat is cool
[10:52] <tristanmike> robotgeek, no way
[10:52] <DualCore> and then when i double click on it.. it ask for a username and pass
[10:52] <HiddenFly> draug_n: ln: when making multiple links, last argument must be a directory
[10:52] <joetheodd> Oborde: Thanks
[10:53] <_rb_> anyone else having trouble with libc6 versions ?
[10:53] <Orborde> DualCore: I would expect that you would have to punch in the username/password that you use on the Linux box.
[10:53] <_rb_> basically cant update anything else coz it keeps holding them back
[10:53] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i think i remember you being in #ubuntu when i got here!
[10:53] <DualCore> that's what i did but it wont let me in
[10:53] <xophEr> Why is there not a driver for logitech mice that will work 'out-of-the-box' (all the button etc)? Or is there?
[10:53] <tristanmike> robotgeek, i came in june
[10:53] <slibs> hey? anyone familiar with mkv(matroska) videos in linux?
[10:53] <draug_n> my bad HiddenFly, it should be sudo ln -sf /boot/initrd.img-sata /boot/initrd.img
[10:53] <tristanmike> cool
[10:53] <HiddenFly> k
[10:54] <DualCore> im so confused, hehe
[10:54] <Orborde> xophEr: My mouse works...and it's a Logitech...but I doubt that helps much. :)
[10:54] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i think i might have joined in june too :)
[10:54] <Orborde> DualCore: Try the username/password that you use on the Windows machine, maybe?
[10:54] <HaNazir> i want to have my desktop be the mail server, meaning<EMAIL_ADDRESS>how would i do that?
[10:54] <tristanmike> robotgeek, nice, I thought you were the same person on the forums.
[10:55] <Orborde> HaNazir: If you want a .com address and not just an IP number, you're going to have to buy it.
[10:55] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i am!
[10:55] <HaNazir> Orborde,IP is ok, but i dont have a static ip :(
[10:55] <[LethAL] > HaNazir, there are a few domains which you can get for free, however, such as ath.cx
[10:55] <_rb_> is security.ubuntu.com down too ?
[10:55] <Orborde> DualCore: I assume you've checked that the machines are talking to one another?
[10:55] <[LethAL] > HaNazir, And these are designed for dynamic IPs
[10:56] <Orborde> _rb_: /topic
[10:56] <_rb_> yeah, it says archive.ubuntu etc. is it the same thing ?
[10:56] <daejavu> how can i install my Current Kernel Source from CD  ?
[10:56] <Orborde> _rb_: Oh, sorry. Yes.
[10:56] <tristanmike> robotgeek, wow, you seem really advanced from your posts
[10:56] <HaNazir> [LethAL] , how would i do it man?
[10:56] <Orborde> _rb_: All the official repos are down.
[10:56] <DualCore> yes
[10:56] <[LethAL] > HaNazir, PM?
[10:56] <_rb_> sweet. any clues on when its getting back up ?
[10:56] <DualCore> i can access the windows pc from the linux machine
[10:56] <HaNazir> [LethAL] , i'm realy new to it. i just need the privacy
[10:56] <HaNazir> [LethAL] , sure
[10:57] <GrannyTux> what happened to the repos why are they down
[10:57] <cevizoglu> _rb_, why don't you use one from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive while you're waiting for it to come back up?
[10:57] <daejavu> how can i install my Current Kernel Source from CD  ?
[10:57] <DualCore> i can copy and edit files in the windows pc from my linux machine
[10:57] <Orborde> GrannyTux: We're guessing the webserver software blew up.
[10:57] <Orborde> DualCore: Okay.
[10:57] <cevizoglu> GrannyTux, read my last comment
[10:57] <Orborde> DualCore: That's a good sign.
[10:57] <HaNazir> GrannyTux, down time :(
[10:57] <daejavu> robotgeek, an i install my Current Kernel Source from CD  ?
[10:58] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i have been playing with linux for about over an year now, though. ubuntu is about 6 months or so
[10:58] <DualCore> wew... getting confused... hehe
[10:58] <robotgeek> daejavu: from the live/install cd?
[10:58] <_rb_> erm. guess that'd be okay, all i need is to update libc6. its noyt playing ball. cant seem to upgrade past 2.3.2.dsl-20
[10:58] <neotrophy_> Anyone know of a good automated backup tool that doesn't require too much setup and will work on OS X as well as ubuntu?
[10:58] <Orborde> DualCore: And you have Samba server set up, right? Not NFS.
[10:58] <robotgeek> neotrophy_: automating is just putting a script in a cron job :)
[10:59] <HiddenFly> draug_n: didnt work :/
[10:59] <Orborde> DualCore: You would be able to access the Windows machine even without the samba server.
[10:59] <DualCore> yes
[10:59] <daejavu> robotgeek, ummm yeah .. actually the readme file says to install kernel headers to /usr/src/linux-2.4 direc .. which i think is the kernels source direct ..which i dont have
[11:00] <daejavu> robotgeek, so how can i install it ?
[11:00] <tristanmike> robotgeek, nice, I look forward to a long life with Ubuntu and Linux in general, I'm so glad Ubuntu was my first real experience with Linux
[11:00] <robotgeek> daejavu: okay, in ubuntu, all kernels are 2.6 AFAIK.
[11:00] <Orborde> DualCore: Not sure what to tell you. Sorry. Try looking up smb.conf
[11:00] <robotgeek> tristanmike: i've seen bad times with linux, but i am glad that ubuntu worked out for both u and me!
[11:01] <DualCore> ok... i found a website that might help with the smb.conf
[11:01] <tristanmike> robotgeek, can I pm you for a sec
[11:01] <DualCore> thanks
[11:01] <neotrophy_> robotgeek: Yeah, I dont' really like crontab, but if I needed to, I can do that.  The problem is that the Mac is usually connected by an 802.11b network, so I want to be able to do the mac side of things manually (when it's plugged into an wirened network connection).
[11:01] <robotgeek> tristanmike: go ahead
[11:02] <robotgeek> neotrophy_: there was something called unison, which i used. worked for me. no longer under development
[11:02] <daejavu> robotgeek, so how can i get that ? :)
[11:03] <neotrophy_> Had a bit of a scare today.  Want to get things set up to be as transparent and foolproof as possible/
[11:03] <_rb_> hey anyone able to tell me the name of that song that constantine puts on in his home with the jazz in it, right before his mate comes around with the dragon breath gun
[11:03] <robotgeek> daejavu: if u are connected to the net, try apt-get install linux-kernel-headers-`uname -r`
[11:04] <alpopel> hi.. i've just a little question.. when will breezy release???
[11:04] <daejavu> robotgeek, will that install only the headers or the source as well ?
[11:04] <robotgeek> daejavu: only the headers
[11:04] <blekos> october most probably
[11:04] <alpopel> isn't there an exact date??
[11:04] <neotrophy_> robotgeek: I found the unison web page...  It looks like just the thing! :)
[11:04] <robotgeek> alpopel: oct 13, i think
[11:04] <robotgeek> neotrophy_: cool :)
[11:04] <alpopel> alright. thx
[11:05] <blekos> mayb
[11:05] <draug_n> HiddenFly: oh well. then i'm stumped :(
[11:05] <daejavu> robotgeek, so what would i have to do for the source ? (iam sorry i keep bugging u .. i c ur preety busy already :-)  )
[11:05] <blekos> but breezy preview works fine with me
[11:05] <blekos> then will do just the upgrade think
[11:05] <robotgeek> daejavu: my guess is that you would need to compile the driver against the source (sometimes, kernel headers are enough)
[11:05] <alpopel> well. i'll try breezy next weekend. today i'm going to go to italy!
[11:05] <alpopel> :D
[11:06] <robotgeek> daejavu: bug me all u want, here to help!
[11:06] <blekos> cool whichi part of italy>
[11:06] <blekos> ?
[11:06] <alpopel> toscana
[11:06] <blekos> great
[11:06] <blekos> where r u now?
[11:06] <alpopel> to "viareggio" i think
[11:06] <joetheodd> Where can I download yacc?
[11:06] <alpopel> cologne, germany
[11:06] <blekos> hallo Deutschland...
[11:06] <alpopel> hallo ^^
[11:07] <blekos> Italy is nice
[11:07] <blekos> so is Germany :))
[11:07] <alpopel> hmm. not in cologne. stuttgart is great!
[11:07] <daejavu> robotgeek, ok .. so if i just isntall the headers as u said .. it will create the directory /usr/src/linux-2.6.    right ?
[11:07] <blekos> been in Munich for a couple of times
[11:07] <alpopel> i've been there
[11:07] <alpopel> :(
[11:07] <blekos> didn't like it?
[11:07] <robotgeek> daejavu: yup
[11:07] <tristanmike> thanx all, good nite
[11:08] <alpopel> oh. i haven't been there! sry
[11:08] <cevizoglu> joetheodd, byacc?
[11:08] <alpopel> berlin is great, too!
[11:08] <joetheodd> cevizoglu: Maybe, its something that flex needs
[11:08] <blekos> i heard so... i was to go on January, but something came up...
[11:08] <daejavu> robotgeek,  thanks dude .. lemme c what happens then .. hope i get something out of that shitty driver ;)
[11:08] <alpopel> got to go.. have to help my mother. her birthday is today..
[11:08] <alpopel> :(
[11:09] <blekos> HAPPY BDAY
[11:09] <alpopel> i'll tell her
[11:09] <alpopel> bye
[11:09] <blekos> :)
[11:09] <blekos> bye
[11:10] <robotgeek> daejavu: np
[11:10] <gedeblog> REGISTER <o12345u>
[11:13] <floppyears|home> hi
[11:13] <floppyears|home> in my kern.log messages and syslog
[11:13] <aftertaf> like the topic bob2 ... was about to panic :)
[11:13] <floppyears|home> I have a lot of entries like the following
[11:13] <Seveas> gedeblog, /msg nickserv set password new_password
[11:13] <floppyears|home> Sep 25 02:13:00 Alexandra-Debian kernel: PROTO=6 <IP_ADDRESS>:48063 <IP_ADDRESS>:6600 L=52 S=0x00 I=2226 F=0x4000 T=64
[11:13] <floppyears|home> Sep 25 02:13:00 Alexandra-Debian kernel: ip_local_deliver: bad skb: PRE_ROUTING LOCAL_IN LOCAL_OUT POST_ROUTING
[11:13] <floppyears|home> Sep 25 02:13:00 Alexandra-Debian kernel: skb: pf=2 (unowned) dev=lo len=58
[11:13] <floppyears|home> what's causing them ?
[11:13] <floppyears|home> how can I stop them?
[11:14] <renedox> hello #ubuntu
[11:14] <floppyears|home> they are using up a lot of space :(
[11:14] <zone17> Hi, whats up with the apt achives?
[11:14] <Seveas> zone17, /topic
[11:14] <renedox> dunno
[11:14] <bigfoot1> hello everyone. How can I find out the IP address by examining an email I received.
[11:14] <bigfoot1> ?
[11:14] <zone17> I am getting failed to fetch on all accounts
[11:14] <Seveas> bigfoot1, the last Received: header
[11:15] <NsOmNiAc> headers
[11:15] <zone17> k sorry
[11:16] <teenie> how to install ym in ubuntu?
[11:16] <renedox> teenie: have you tried gaim?
[11:16] <[LethAL] > teenie, use Gaim
[11:16] <tamarack> is anyone here running breezy?
[11:16] <Seveas> tamarack, lots
[11:16] <teenie> yes im using gaim ryt now
[11:17] <VoX> i am
[11:17] <[LethAL] > tamarack, I am
[11:17] <tamarack> are your repos broken?
[11:17] <gedeblog> thx Seveas :)
[11:17] <Seveas> tamarack, /topic
[11:17] <[LethAL] > tamarack, Topic
[11:17] <VoX> tamarack: see /tpoic
[11:17] <joetheodd> tamarack: yes
[11:17] <tamarack> I haven't been able to reload them
[11:17] <tamarack> ACK
[11:17] <VoX> */topic
[11:17] <tamarack> sorry
[11:17] <teenie> (Reading database ... 86548 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:17] <teenie> Unpacking ymessenger (from ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb) ...
[11:17] <teenie> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ymessenger:
[11:17] <teenie>  ymessenger depends on libgdk-pixbuf2 (>= 0.13.0); however:
[11:17] <teenie>   Package libgdk-pixbuf2 is not installed.
[11:17] <teenie>  ymessenger depends on libssl0.9.6; however:
[11:17] <teenie>   Package libssl0.9.6 is not installed.
[11:17] <renedox> teenie: what's wrong with it? gaim is better than Y!M IMHO
[11:17] <tamarack> I just woke up
[11:17] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[11:17] <tamarack> thanks
[11:17] <tamarack> forgive me :)
[11:17] <KWizzard> I run Breezy too
[11:18] <indypende> no one had a webcam working?
[11:18] <Seveas> /mode #ubuntru +b<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:18] <Seveas> /mode #ubuntu +b<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:18] <Seveas> heh?!?
[11:18] <[LethAL] > LOL
[11:18] <Seveas> I don't get it, xchat is failing me :)
[11:19] <[LethAL] > :(
[11:19] <talky> Does any know how can i modiy the modem chat script so that i can issue conmand at my will , is there any package available for doing such thing?
[11:19] <robotgeek> Seveas: time to get irssi!
[11:19] <bina> anyone having ne problems with the Universe repos?
[11:19] <Seveas> bina, /topic
[11:19] <bina> Seveas: lol, oh yes :) thanks
[11:19] <Cryptid> is the synaptic server up ?????????????????
[11:20] <Seveas> Cryptid, /topic
[11:20] <robotgeek> Seveas: :)
[11:20] <Seveas> it's the first thing you see when joining
[11:20] <Seveas> READ it
[11:20] <aftertaf> Seveas: xept noone reads it ;)
[11:20] <Orborde-sleep> Reading is for nerds.
[11:21] <Orborde-sleep> Well, you *are* using Linux...
[11:21] <aftertaf> neds will inherit the earth
[11:21] <aftertaf> +r
[11:21] <Cryptid> Seveas, now how do i get the packages from wiki.ubuntu.com/Archives
[11:22] <robotgeek> aftertaf: now u are talking like bill gates!
[11:22] <GrannyTux> dl them and install manually
[11:22] <LivingTarget> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=370159&postcount=18
[11:22] <ompaul> Cryptid, you wait like us all.
[11:22] <leongoo> anyone tried netselect-apt-ubuntu?
[11:22] <Seveas> Cryptid, those are mirrors, you put them in sources.list
[11:22] <ompaul> ahh right me brain
[11:22] <cevizoglu> ompaul, there is no wait, I just downloaded some packages
[11:23] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks
[11:23] <Orborde-sleep> cevizoglu: From mirror?
[11:23] <cevizoglu> Orborde-sleep, go change to a mirror, yes
[11:23] <bigfoot1> Seveas, thanks for the info (last "received" header). if someone is using a webmail account, I can't pinpoint where in the world that person sent that email from , can I?
[11:24] <Orborde-sleep> bigfoot1: Go google whois
[11:24] <teen> ei
[11:24] <Cryptid> Seveas, will please tell me how do i edit my source.list file and where and how should i add that mirror i am new so please help :-s
[11:24] <teen> how about mirc in ubuntu?
[11:24] <carm> is security.ubuntu.com somewhat down? i can ping it but my apt wont connect...
[11:24] <aftertaf> Cryptid: open synaptic, go to depots
[11:24] <robotgeek> teen: nope
[11:24] <aftertaf> carm /topic
[11:24] <cevizoglu> !tell Cryptid about sources
[11:24] <teen> ic
[11:24] <Orborde-sleep> carm: /topic
[11:24] <teen> voice cahat in gaim?
[11:24] <frans-th> hi all
[11:24] <carm> ups..  :)
[11:24] <robotgeek> teen: nope
[11:24] <NsOmNiAc> what about mirc ?
[11:24] <glick> why in gods name would you  wanna use mirc when you dont have to
[11:25] <Orborde-sleep> teen: Negative. Sorry.
[11:25] <ompaul> teen, there is xchat and it works
[11:25] <NsOmNiAc> there is BitchX .. .irssi... Xchat
[11:25] <robotgeek> teen: there is also irssi :)
[11:25] <ompaul> Orborde-sleep, don't be sorry :)
[11:25] <Orborde-sleep> teen: Ubuntu comes with Xchat
[11:25] <NsOmNiAc> if your looking for a GUI then check out Xchat
[11:25] <teen> im a cafe owner
[11:25] <aftertaf> kubuntu komes with konversation
[11:25] <Orborde-sleep> ompaul: Well, it would be nice if Gaim occasionally worked with some of the more non-text messaging features of other clients.
[11:26] <Cryptid> aftertaf, i dont find ne depots
[11:26] <bigfoot1> Orborde-sleep, I received an email with a hotmail.com domain. The only info I seem to get is the information for Microsoft. But, I was wondering if it's possible to get that sender's IP address, and NOT the IP address of the company that owns the email service.
[11:26] <Seveas> Orborde-sleep, gaim-vv :)
[11:26] <Seveas> bigfoot1, for hotmail: no
[11:26] <Orborde-sleep> Seveas: That a package?
[11:26] <glick> i think ubuntu should come with kontact by default
[11:26] <glick> contact is the greatest
[11:26] <kataklysm> whats up with the repo?
[11:26] <robotgeek> Orborde-sleep: nope, it's a project
[11:26] <bina> !tell bina about sources
[11:26] <glick> kontact i mean
[11:26] <bina> yay :)
[11:26] <Seveas> maybe te received from ...... with http.... line contains info
[11:26] <[LethAL] > kataklysm, topic
[11:26] <Orborde-sleep> bigfoot1: Isn't there an X-Originating-IP somewhere in the header?
[11:26] <kataklysm> it wasnt connecting at all, now its refusing.. they having big problems?
[11:27] <teen> if theres a posibility that ubuntu caaaan haave  a voice chat?
[11:27] <ompaul> bigfoot1, hotmail thinks you don't need that - its too hard for you to use :)
[11:27] <Orborde-sleep> kataklsym: /topic
[11:27] <kataklysm> [LethAL] : yea i know they are down
[11:27] <Seveas> teen, gaim-vv
[11:27] <kataklysm> just wondering whats up
[11:27] <bigfoot1> Orborde-sleep, yes! let me try that ip address. thanks.
[11:27] <leongoo> firefox in ubuntu seems slower than in windoze, is that because of metacity?
[11:27] <teen> wats that?
[11:27] <glick> Seveas, whats gaim-vv?
[11:27] <robotgeek> glick: gaim-vv is a fork of gaim, to support voice/webcam
[11:27] <jhiver> hi everybody, why can't I connect to re.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[11:27] <[LethAL] > leongoo, Firefox should be faster in Linux. try installing the Tweak Network Settings extension and running it on Power
[11:27] <Orborde-sleep> jhiver: /topic
[11:27] <kataklysm> but gaim-vv doesnt support webcam broadcasting
[11:27] <indypende> Seveas, gaim-vv is dead!
[11:27] <jhiver> ah :)
[11:27] <jhiver> thx :)
[11:27] <[LethAL] > Jhair, topic
[11:27] <glick> hmm
[11:28] <Seveas> indypende, ah k
[11:28] <[LethAL] > Gha
[11:28] <glick> why wont gaim support it?
[11:28] <bigfoot1> Orborde-sleep, Oh, I noticed that the IP address for X-Originating-IP is the same as for the last received header.
[11:28] <glick> there is also skype
[11:28] <Seveas> I use a phone for voice-chat so i'm not interested in these things ;)
[11:28] <aftertaf> lol Seveas oldtimer ;)
[11:28] <kataklysm> if you want webcam support try to get gyach enhanced to work,   it doesnt work on ubuntu or on rhel for me...   it closes unexpectedly...
[11:28] <Orborde-sleep> bigfoot1: Go through the header and look up every IP/hostname you can find?
[11:28] <indypende> Seveas, there is not a good software solutionj for voice/video chat on linux!
[11:28] <bigfoot1> Orborde-sleep, what's a hostname? can you give an example?
[11:28] <kataklysm> im not recommending gyach-enhanced, just curious how many other people it closes out on
[11:29] <Orborde-sleep> bigfoot1: usr3489432987.mindspring.net
[11:29] <leongoo> [LethAL] , thx. what do you mean by "on Power"?
[11:29] <bigfoot1> Orborde-sleep, gotcha.
[11:29] <Orborde-sleep> bigfoot1: <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:29] <Cryptid> Does ne body know how much time will it take for the server to get back on track????approx3
[11:29] <ompaul>  bigfoot1 this is part of one  .fko.mesh.ad.jp
[11:29] <Seveas> Cryptid, no
[11:29] <[LethAL] > leongoo, You'll see when you get the extension
[11:30] <Orborde-sleep> Cryptid: Try a mirror, or come back tomorrow.
[11:30] <kataklysm> Cryptid: is it an important package your needing?
[11:30] <ompaul> bigfoot1 it is an address of a computer on the internet
[11:30] <cevizoglu> Orborde-sleep, you're talking in your sleep
[11:30] <cevizoglu> ;)
[11:30] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: your prism working well now?
[11:31] <Orborde-sleep> cevizoglu: Yeah, shoosh. It's 4:30 here and I should *really* be in bed....
[11:31] <Cryptid> katalyms yes it is important i just formatted my com and i need Java run time
[11:31] <robotgeek> Orborde-sleep: hey, it's 4:30 here too, but i am off to grab another beer!
[11:31] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, very well, thanks  :)
[11:31] <Seveas> Cryptid, you can't get hava from there...
[11:31] <bigfoot1> what website do you guys recommend to find out information on IP? (i'm looking for geolocation, if possible)
[11:31] <kataklysm> Cryptid: i might still have the jre1.5.0 package on here
[11:31] <sanketmedhi> hello
[11:31] <Seveas> Cryptid, hoary or warty?
[11:31] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, happiness is a wireless card and linux
[11:32] <bigfoot1> information on A SPECIFIC ip.
[11:32] <sanketmedhi> there is a Hibernate option in Ubuntu Log Out options...but it doesn't seem to work fine
[11:32] <Cryptid> Seveas hoary
[11:32] <robotgeek> Cryptid: you can get a torrent here http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[11:32] <Seveas> Cryptid, ubuntu.tower-net.de
[11:32] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: :)
[11:32] <sanketmedhi> anybody has any idea about this Hibernate option?
[11:32] <Slarti-> wow
[11:32] <ompaul> bigfoot1, sorry but that is one for uncle google, there is too much to do, have a look at the command whois IP in a terminal
[11:32] <Seveas> robotgeek, those are for hoary
[11:32] <Cryptid> Will some 1 guide me thru the process of adding the mirror
[11:32] <bigfoot1> sanketmedhi, yeah. it doesn't work with me too.
[11:32] <Seveas> robotgeek, those are for breezy i mean*
[11:32] <Orborde-sleep> bigfoot1: http://www.whois.net/
[11:32] <Slarti-> just canceled my mandrakeclub subscription
[11:32] <robotgeek> Seveas: sorry!
[11:32] <sanketmedhi> bigfoot1, then is it there?
[11:32] <Seveas> Slarti-, :)
[11:32] <leongoo> [LethAL] , got it. but still slow when switching between tabs :)
[11:32] <sanketmedhi> bigfoot1, why*
[11:32] <Slarti-> been a mandrake user for over 5 years
[11:33] <glick> bigfoot1, what r u tryin to do?
[11:33] <ompaul> Slarti-, welcome to the bright side :)
[11:33] <bigfoot1> sanketmedhi, dunno. it just needs to be fixed by the ubuntu team i guess.
[11:33] <kataklysm> jhiver: i agree with u, breezy is da shit heh
[11:33] <glick> when will breezy be officially released?
[11:33] <sanketmedhi> bigfoot1, but Ubuntu is the most stable system I have used...there has to be something behind this
[11:33] <bigfoot1> glick, hello. I'm trying to find out my contact's IP address (the IP address of the computer used) from an email that I received.
[11:33] <jhiver> with breezy, *everything* works out of the box, it's brilliant
[11:33] <Seveas> glick, oct. 13
[11:33] <kataklysm> glick: oct 13
[11:33] <kataklysm> heh
[11:33] <NsOmNiAc> Slarti- are you enjoying Uunbtu more ?
[11:33] <bigfoot1> jhiver, yeah right!
[11:33] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, you have any idea bout the Hibernate feature in Ubuntu?
[11:33] <Slarti-> says it all when a pre-release version of ubuntu works better than the mandriva final releases
[11:33] <glick> bigfoot1, that wont necessarily be possible
[11:34] <jhiver> except for my dual display I had to fiddle just a tad, but then it's worse with windows :)
[11:34] <bigfoot1> jhiver, will my pocket pc work with ubuntu breezy?
[11:34] <Seveas> sanketmedhi, do you use nvidia/ati/madwifi drivers?
[11:34] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, yes I use nvidia
[11:34] <Slarti-> well, things that work under ubuntu that don't in mandrake/mandriva
[11:34] <[Wiebel] > Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[11:34] <Seveas> sanketmedhi, then you can't use hibernate
[11:34] <[Wiebel] > hmzzz
[11:34] <jhiver> dunno :)
[11:34] <kataklysm> bigfoot: do you have a ton of free flash card space?
[11:34] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, why not/
[11:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> does anyone here play gnometriss? i was wondering if other people have seen the same bug i found
[11:34] <Seveas> these binary drivers really screw it up
[11:34] <ompaul> bigfoot1, you need to ask Hotmail for that data based on what you know
[11:34] <jhiver> maybe you shuould try :)
[11:34] <Orborde-sleep> [Wiebel] : /topic
[11:34] <cevizoglu> is there a key shortcut which allows me to switch through open windows or apps?
[11:34] <Slarti-> zen sync, no video crashing, audio works correctly, updates work, package management works
[11:34] <glick> bigfoot1, if he or she used a webmail interface to send the email, then you will only get the ip of that system, not the actual host
[11:35] <Orborde-sleep> cevizoglu: Alt+tab ... ?
[11:35] <Seveas> cevizoglu, <alt><tab>
[11:35] <jhiver> yeah, alt+tab
[11:35] <[Wiebel] > Orborde-sleep: ack
[11:35] <jhiver> just like in windows :)
[11:35] <Slarti-> the zen syncing and the stability has swayed me
[11:35] <cevizoglu> jhiver, I don't use windows  :P
[11:35] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, is there anything my graphics drivers have to do with the Hibernate option?
[11:35] <jhiver> Well I have to for work unfortunately...
[11:35] <cevizoglu> jhiver, used a mac for 20 years
[11:35] <jhiver> But at home it's a different kettle of fish indeed
[11:36] <jhiver> ah well
[11:36] <Seveas> sanketmedhi, I don't know the details (never really interested me), I just know that somehow they screw things over
[11:36] <Orborde-sleep> glick: As of, well, several years ago, Hotmail sent along some kind of X-Original-IP thing specifying the computer used to access the webmail.
[11:36] <kataklysm> sanketmedhi: its more than likely the way your kernel is compiled, or your power management settings
[11:36] <jhiver> I stopped liking apple when they dumped the wonderful apple IIe for Macs
[11:36] <Cryptid> Seveas, the mirror site wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive will have all the packages tht the original server has?? and please tell me how to add this mirror to synaptec.... PLZ :-)
[11:36] <bigfoot1> glick, okay. I have a question. At our family home, we paid the internet company for monthly cable/dsl internet. But we bought a router (is that what it's called?), so now we have 3 computers at home sharing the same internet connection. Will all 3 of them have the same IP address?
[11:36] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, if I disable the nvidia driver will it work?
[11:36] <Seveas> sanketmedhi, ymmv
[11:36] <jhiver> although with OS X they might very well be redeeming themselves
[11:36] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, the router assigns you different IP's inside your intranet
[11:36] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, ymmv?
[11:36] <glick>  bigfoot1 to the outside world yes
[11:36] <NsOmNiAc> anything behind the router will hav ea private ip
[11:37] <Orborde-sleep> Cryptid: Go to that address and it should give you directions.
[11:37] <Seveas> !ymmv
[11:37] <ubotu> methinks ymmv is Your Mileage May Vary
[11:37] <bigfoot1> glick, cevizoglu, this is even if we have only one internet account with the internet company?
[11:37] <sanketmedhi> ok
[11:37] <NsOmNiAc> generally <IP_ADDRESS> - <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:37] <glick> bigfoot1, yes
[11:37] <VoX> where should i install java? /usr/share/java/ ?
[11:37] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, to the public you have one address which goes to the router itself
[11:37] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, but does it work for ppl who dont use these drivers?
[11:38] <Seveas> sanketmedhi, yes
[11:38] <robotgeek> Orborde-sleep: nite!
[11:38] <Seveas> VoX, NO
[11:38] <bigfoot1> glick and cevizoglu each of your last statement seem to contradict each other. please tell me where the truth lies.
[11:38] <Seveas> you should install java from a .deb file
[11:38] <Seveas> NOT manually
[11:38] <VoX> which deb?
[11:38] <glick> the ip addresses behind your router are only valid behind your router, when packets leave your home network the source ip address of the packet gets replaced with the router's ip address
[11:38] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, no, we didn't give contradictory info
[11:38] <jhiver> cevizoglu, it depends some internet connections give you a range of IP addresses, in which case you don't have to nat
[11:38] <Seveas> VoX, hoary or breezy?
[11:38] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, and does it allow you to switch power off then resume work after switching it on again??
[11:38] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: you get a public IP that is assigned to the router, and your router has a private network alloted, and its a 192.168.* address and all your computers inside your network have 192.168.* address's and the default gateway is the routers PRIVATE address.. to all outside computers all your computers will have the public IP your router got from the ISP
[11:38] <[Wiebel] > is there a mirror for security as well?
[11:38] <VoX> Seveas: breezy
[11:38] <Seveas> sanketmedhi, it will switch the power off
[11:39] <Seveas> VoX, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:39] <cevizoglu> jhiver, not if you have ONE router on the front of your network
[11:39] <robotgeek> Seveas: no more bandwidth problems?
[11:39] <[Wiebel] > nvm
[11:39] <glick> breezy badger should have been name sleezy slut
[11:39] <GrannyTux> anybody know it the SPCA50X USB camera driver works with a clicksmart 510
[11:39] <glick> that would be a cool name IMHO
[11:39] <jhiver> cevizoglu, wrong
[11:39] <Cryptid> Orborde-sleep, i went to that page it says the page does not exist please creat anopther page and then some other things are also present that are irrelavent to wat i need
[11:39] <kataklysm> GrannyTux: i use the spca50x
[11:39] <Seveas> robotgeek, not while i'm putting the big things behind authentication :)
[11:39] <kataklysm> all you can do is test it
[11:40] <cevizoglu> jhiver, sorry I'm not in the arguing mood right now.. think whatever you like
[11:40] <robotgeek> Seveas: :)
[11:40] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, no I mean the main power
[11:40] <jhiver> I have a cisco 1721 few feet away from me and it handles 16 IPs just fine
[11:40] <glick> isps typically dont give private homes ip blocks
[11:40] <bigfoot1> So if daddyPC goes to whatismyip.com, and if mommyPC goes to whatismyip.com, the website will show them that they have the exact same IP address?
[11:40] <jhiver> yeah, it depends what kind of connection you have
[11:40] <Seveas> sanketmedhi, when hibernating, all power can be cut
[11:40] <glick> bigfoot1, yes
[11:40] <jhiver> but providers such as nildram in the UK do offer that kind of stuff
[11:40] <ompaul> bigfoot1, that is usually the case if they both use the same router to get to the interweb
[11:40] <sanketmedhi> Seveas, cool, thanks!
[11:40] <GrannyTux> hareware
[11:41] <glick> what good is an ip block if you have one incomming connection?
[11:41] <jhiver> cevizoglu, it's not about arguing
[11:41] <kataklysm> GrannyTux: the way i test it is be sure i have the linux-headers installed for your current kernel image, download the spca50x tar ball,  run make,  then make install......... then modprobe videodev      then modprobe spca50x.......... start up gnomemeeting, see if it detects the webcam, if it does you know it works, if not then something is wrong
[11:41] <jhiver> cevizoglu, routers such as Cisco or Netopia DO handle more than 1 IP... hell, Linux does it fine too!
[11:41] <bigfoot1> ompaul, I'm not sure if the gadget is called a router. But whatever it is, it allows the entire household to share the internet connection. In other words, we don't pay Mr.InternetCompany for 4 seperate internet accounts.
[11:41] <GrannyTux> thx k
[11:41] <glick> bigfoot1, of course they do
[11:41] <kataklysm> no prob GrannyTux
[11:41] <glick> oops
[11:42] <glick> jhiver, of course they do
[11:42] <ompaul> bigfoot1, whats its brand name and model number?
[11:42] <jhiver> glick, I know - and hell it's pretty cool not to be natted too sometimes
[11:42] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: that would be a router, more than likely its a linksys, belkin, 3com, etc...
[11:42] <glick> Cisco routers typically dont do NATing either
[11:43] <Cryptid> Seveas, does the server go down frequently or is this the first time that this happened
[11:43] <bigfoot1> ompaul, I'm not at the location now. But I just wanted you to know that I might have used the wrong word (router) to name the gadget that allows people under one roof to share a internet connection.
[11:43] <kataklysm> cisco routers use VLAN instead
[11:43] <sanketmedhi> is archive.ubuntu.com down?
[11:43] <jhiver> yep
[11:43] <kataklysm> sanketmedhi: yes, btw its in the topic
[11:43] <xareum> hello, Is there any problem with the mirrors of Ubuntu today? Is imposible install nothing
[11:43] <jhiver> see above :)
[11:43] <ompaul> bigfoot1, well put its name iinto uncle google next time you see it and find out :) pound to a penny it is
[11:43] <jhiver> looks like we're doing the same mistake :)
[11:44] <bigfoot1> kataklsym7413, i think i saw a linksys name.
[11:44] <sanketmedhi> kataklsym7413, ok thanks, have any idea till when?
[11:44] <LaschW> anyone noticed trouble with archive.ubuntu.com in the moment?
[11:44] <ompaul> sanketmedhi, archive.ubuntu.com is down, look for mirrors at wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[11:44] <glick> i wonder if i should un NAT myself
[11:44] <glick> i only have one laptop connected to my router
[11:44] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: you have one IP address to your computers then... they all connect to servers issuing the same IP
[11:44] <Jhair> LaschW: read the topic
[11:44] <bigfoot1> So just to confirm with you all: the 3 computers in our house all have the same IP address when the computers go to a website such as www.whatismyip.com. Correct?
[11:44] <glick> if someone brings their laptop and needs access i can always pull it out
[11:44] <bigfoot1> kataklsym7413, gotcha
[11:45] <ompaul> glick, so really you are wondering if you should bridge yours :)
[11:45] <jhiver> glick, it depends what you're doing
[11:45] <aftertaf> anyone help me with a /dev mknode problem? when i boot i have /dev/raw1394 that is created by the system, but i have to sudo chmod it in order to capture video thru kino.... any way to change perms on it?
[11:45] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: they each have a different private network IP,  but the router has 2 IP's one assigned by your ISP, the other is a static IP that is for the network you use in your house
[11:45] <glick> jhiver, gaim file transfer doesnt work NATed
[11:45] <jhiver> u sure?
[11:45] <glick> yeah
[11:45] <Mescal> #ubuntu-it
[11:45] <jhiver> it works with AOL accounts I think
[11:45] <kataklysm> glick: depends on if you have portforwarding enabled
[11:46] <jhiver> well at least it works for me
[11:46] <glick> i have a couple of ultra sun 5s and 10s maybe ill bust one out as a firewall
[11:46] <bigfoot1> kataklsym7413, ompaul, glick: thank you so much for teaching me about this IP thingy. I guess I can't do what I wanted to do now. I need to find another way. ANyway, thank you so very much!!!
[11:46] <shinu> gaim file transfers work for me too, im on ntl and i think its NATed
[11:46] <jhiver> in which case you'd still have to learns about which ports to use because it would be crazy to bridge and not have firehol running or something
[11:46] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: anytime :D
[11:46] <shinu> though sometimes it fails but i think its more the other person's fault
[11:47] <ompaul> bigfoot1, move to a real email address :)
[11:47] <Adross> any idea on when the reps will be unbrokalised?
[11:47] <Leshrac> I want to install windows in a partition, but I fear it will overwrite grub and I won't be able to boot linux, can someone help me?
[11:48] <bigfoot1> ompaul, no my problem wasn't with email addresses. I'm sad about the fact that all our PCs share the same IP address. sniff
[11:48] <kataklysm> Leshrac: your suppose to install linux after windows...
[11:48] <glick> bigfoot1, who cares? as long as the internet works
[11:48] <kataklysm> their isnt a easy way to install windows without overwriting the MBR
[11:48] <bina> kataklysm: i think there is a way to reinstall grub
[11:48] <shinu> Leshrac: i did what kataklysm said but i think you can reinstall grub from floppy later on
[11:48] <kataklysm> yes
[11:48] <bina> kataklysm: sorry, directed that to the wrong person :)
[11:48] <shinu> Leshrac: check out the faqs/tuts on forum or wiki
[11:48] <kataklysm> u can install windows
[11:49] <Leshrac> yeah but I have linux already installed, and now I'd like a windows partition for gaming
[11:49] <bigfoot1> glick, I usually don't care. But for a particular thing I needed to do, we NEED seperate IP addresses.
[11:49] <kataklysm> but then you will have to reinstall your linux.  or at least get a live cd to boot up and recopy your grub to your mbr
[11:49] <glick> well what do you want to do?
[11:49] <ompaul> bigfoot1, well tell people what you want to do, after all we may already know an answer for yout
[11:49] <jhiver> bigfoot1, what do you want to do?
[11:49] <shinu> or you can just boot grub from a floppy
[11:50] <jhiver> bigfoot1, you *could* ask your ISP for a range of static IPs... some of them do do it
[11:50] <Leshrac> shinu, is there a tuto on how to do that?
[11:50] <kataklysm> Leshrac: i dont think its too wise to be installing windows after you have linux installed.. you should have considered that before you installed linux...
[11:50] <glick> heh i know my gay as isp wont
[11:50] <shinu> Leshrac: reinstall grub?
[11:51] <bigfoot1> well, i'm trying to get a free ipod, and the company won't allow it if we register using the same ip address.
[11:51] <talky> Does any know how can i modify the modem chat script so that i can issue conmand at my will , is there any package available for doing such thing?
[11:51] <jhiver> glick, it's true that for that kind of service you usually have to have a 'serious' connection which costs some bucks
[11:51] <Leshrac> kataklysm, whether I should have considered it either or not is a bit out of the question right now
[11:51] <glick> bigfoot1, oh brother
[11:51] <shinu> bigfoot1: proxy? :P
[11:51] <bigfoot1> and I need just one more sign up! aaagh.
[11:51] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, open proxy
[11:51] <jhiver> bigfoot1, you should try to get some mates to setup web proxies for you
[11:51] <kataklysm> Leshrac: then boot from floppy or cd, and have fun trying to redo grub without losing your linux partition or windows partition one...
[11:51] <jhiver> that'll sort you out
[11:52] <jhiver> unless they want the ipod too
[11:52] <Leshrac> ok kataklysm
[11:52] <shinu> kataklysm: thats not that difficult
[11:52] <pont> Leshrac, Its not as hard as kataklsym is making It out
[11:52] <kataklysm> shinu: its not really that difficult but its hard to provide help for doing something like that..
[11:52] <bigfoot1> jhiver, won't that appear suspicious? If the company thinks something's fishy, they'll but a permanent hold on all related accounts.
[11:52] <ompaul> talky, you can do it manually is that what you want? been a long time since I did it but I used to invoke a ppp client and do it all manually years ago, so I guess you need to search for a ppp client and interactive
[11:52] <jhiver> or you could save the time you're gonna spend trying to win the ipod working and buy yourself one
[11:53] <shinu> kataklysm: true...
[11:53] <blekos> is there any way i could back up my system, and I mean to create an image so in case of emergency to reloaded?
[11:53] <blekos> and have the exact settings?
[11:53] <kataklysm> its hard to guide someone through reloading a bootloader, because you have no way to communicate with them, unless they have another computer
[11:53] <pont> Hmm, Just point them to the gentoo documentation on installing the bootloader
[11:53] <bigfoot1> jhiver, yeah I COULD by myself one. but why pay for it when someone is giving it away for free?
[11:53] <jhiver> bigfoot1, I don't know, if you don't have a static IP address you could try unplugging your modem at night and get a fresh new IP address in the morning
[11:53] <pont> :D
[11:53] <shinu> damn
[11:54] <kataklysm> pont: that should have been the first thing they done
[11:54] <glick> bigfoot1, its not free, you have to sell out your friends to get it
[11:54] <shinu> he quit, was about to give him link to tutorial...
[11:54] <glick> their gonna spam their emails
[11:54] <bigfoot1> jhiver, will that work even if we are on cable internet? Or only on dialup?
[11:54] <pont> kataklysm, People don't know where to look for things
[11:54] <jhiver> bigfoot, if you don't have a static IP it should work
[11:54] <bigfoot1> glick, what do you mean "sell out"? ideally, even your friends are happy.
[11:54] <kataklysm> i usually dont refer people to google or the distro docs,  they should know how to get to google, or how to read docs, especially if they are attempting using linux...
[11:54] <jhiver> your ISP DHCP server will attribute you another IP if the lease time expires
[11:55] <LaschW> ompaul: Hhhm, I just see that only http://archive.ubuntu.com causes problems. ftp://archive... works fine
[11:55] <jhiver> and the best way for the lease time to expire is usually to stay unplugged for a few hours
[11:55] <ompaul> LaschW, kewl
[11:55] <jhiver> quite frankly, I think ipods suck so I would not bother ):
[11:55] <aftertaf> anyone know how to change default permissions on a dev node on boot?
[11:55] <Jehfvel> are there any mirrors for http://security.ubuntu.com ?
[11:55] <bigfoot1> jhiver, I'm currently out of town (not in the family home with the multiple PCs) . i guess i could try it on my PC and see if I get a new IP address.
[11:55] <[LethAL] > Jehfvel, topic
[11:55] <bigfoot1> How many hours do you think is sufficient
[11:55] <bigfoot1> ?
[11:56] <jhiver> dunno, while you sleep seems like a good idea
[11:56] <jhiver> unless you sleep very little
[11:56] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, you should check for IP lease time, it could be weeks or months
[11:56] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, your ISP may also allow you to buy a second IP address
[11:56] <jhiver> cevizoglu, agreed
[11:56] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: commonly lease's are set to "forever"
[11:57] <bigfoot1> cevizoglu, kataklsym7413 in that case, i may just get the same ip address after unplugging for overnight.
[11:57] <kataklysm> but that doesnt mean your ip wont change
[11:57] <kataklysm> no
[11:57] <bigfoot1> kataklysm,
[11:57] <kataklysm> it means you keep that IP as long as your connection is alive
[11:57] <bigfoot1> oh?
[11:57] <aftertaf> broken archives: i second the ftp method, it works
[11:58] <bigfoot1> i see, kataklysm
[11:58] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: i would recommend setting up your computers with static IP address's
[11:58] <ompaul> kataklsym and I would not :)
[11:58] <kataklysm> that way you can identify them later on by the last octet in the IP address
[11:58] <kataklysm> if you have wireless devices, i wouldnt use static IP
[11:59] <CrTr> When I type sudo freshclam it says  : WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED - please update immediately! ; WARNING: Current functionality level = 4, required = 6 ?
[11:59] <jhiver> bigfoot1, ordering a range of IP addresses just to try and win an ipod is insanity :)
[11:59] <kataklysm> ohh
[11:59] <bigfoot1> kataklysm, i don't really want to make a trouble out of this ip thing.
[11:59] <kataklysm> i didnt realize what he was doing
[11:59] <pont> You can also make the DHCP server always assign the same ip
[11:59] <jhiver> lol :)
[11:59] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, you couldn't just go to a public wifi access spot?
[11:59] <glick> the extra ips will prolly cost about as much as the damn ipod itself
[11:59] <bigfoot1> jhiver, Yeah, I haven't gotten to that point of insanity yet. Aaaaagggh.
[11:59] <pont> ok this is for a ISP
[11:59] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: just plug your router into your dsl/cable modem, plug your computers or hub(s) into the router, and move on then
[11:59] <pont> use dyndns
[12:00] <kataklysm> dynu.com is good
[12:00] <kataklysm> and flexdns.net
[12:00] <slibs> i like no-ip
[12:00] <bigfoot1> kataklysm, everything IS plugged in.
[12:00] <[LethAL] > I use dnydns
[12:00] <ompaul> reboot
[12:00] <[LethAL] > dyndns*
[12:00] <bigfoot1> do those websites cost money to use?
[12:00] <[LethAL] > As does my router :D
[12:00] <CrTr> When I type sudo freshclam it says  : WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED - please update immediately! ; WARNING: Current functionality level = 4, required = 6 ?
[12:00] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, there are some free dial-up ISP's, aren't there?
[12:00] <pont> bigfoot1, Nope
[12:01] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: they are free, they just give you a DNS name for your dynamically changing IP addresses
[12:01] <glick> does netzero still offer free service?
[12:01] <kataklysm> bigfoot1: they help when you run a server, yet your IP changes from time to time..
[12:01] <pont> bigfoot1, and theres scripts that automaticly tell the page your new IP when you reconnect etc.
[12:01] <cevizoglu> bigfoot1, some ISP's also provide free dial-up acccess
[12:01] <slibs> my router "can use" dyndns as well, but couldn't get it work so im using no-ip, which hasn't let me down ever
[12:01] <thoreauputic>    CrTr presumably you need to update your virus definitions ?
[12:02] <CrTr> I'm updating them with sudo freshclam
[12:02] <CrTr> but ..
[12:02] <bigfoot1> cevizoglu, maybe getting free dial up access is the easiest way to get a new ip.
[12:02] <slibs> that won't update the definitions
[12:02] <slibs> it only updates the program
[12:02] <CrTr> and how to update the definitions ?
[12:02] <slibs> don't ask
[12:02] <slibs> (from me)
[12:02] <CrTr> i'm asking
[12:03] <kataklysm> well, i guess im gonna go to bed everyone.. have fun waiting on those mirrors ;)
[12:03] <thoreauputic> CrTr: one would assume the man page tells you how....
[12:03] <pont> l8r
[12:03] <CrTr>  freshclam - update virus databases
[12:04] <jhiver> cya kataklsym
[12:04] <kataklysm> bye
[12:04] <cevizoglu> kataklsym, huh?  the mirrors are working now
[12:04] <kataklysm> are they
[12:04] <kataklysm> good
[12:04] <kataklysm> im still goin to bed
[12:04] <kataklysm> heh
[12:04] <kataklysm> nope one of em is still down
[12:05] <bigfoot1> aagh, i just checked out google for free dialup in canada and it looks like it's not as easy to get as with USA . aaaagh.
[12:05] <DewDude> is it possible to VNC into gnome on a ubuntu box that say...has no keyboard or monitor?
[12:05] <cevizoglu> kataklsym, why do you need to use all of them?
[12:05] <Mr-Falkor> Some mirrors at mye source list is down :S
[12:05] <slibs> DewDude, yes
[12:05] <thoreauputic> CrTr: *shrug* maybe there's a more recent version then - I wouldn't lose any sleep over that though
[12:05] <DewDude> ahh
[12:05] <pont> DewDude, yes
[12:05] <jhiver> security.ubuntu.com still down :(
[12:05] <Mr-Falkor> and I cant find another mirror with all the nvidia-glx shit
[12:05] <bigfoot1> there must be an easier way to achieve my goal.
[12:05] <DewDude> cuz our server is running ubuntu now
[12:05] <pkern> Mr-Falkor: de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu?
[12:05] <pont> DewDude, I personly would use XDMCP tho
[12:05] <DewDude> i jsut can't figure out how to VNC over to the box
[12:05] <kataklysm> Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80
[12:05] <DewDude> because no one's logged into it, except over SSH
[12:06] <DewDude> it's a rackmount
[12:06] <cevizoglu> jhiver, security.ubuntu.com is mirrored elsewhere
[12:06] <Mr-Falkor> pkern, gimme the source list ?:)
[12:06] <jhiver> Mr-Falkor, I have this 'nvidia-glx' shit in my cache if you want
[12:06] <kataklysm> cevizoglu: i dont NEED any of them..  just the one that i was downloading some non-free packages from, its down...
[12:06] <pont> DewDude, You will have to setup vnc first
[12:06] <DewDude> ok
[12:06] <pkern> Mr-Falkor: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted
[12:06] <DewDude> i installed VNC
[12:06] <glick> what is vnc?
[12:06] <jhiver> it's a remote desktop control toop
[12:06] <glick> virtual network channel?
[12:06] <slibs> DewDude, there's a good tutorial in forums how to setup xdmcp login, anyway in both cases you have to access localy in that computer
[12:06] <CrTr> virtual network connection
[12:07] <slibs> locally*
[12:07] <Mr-Falkor> pkern, I dont use breezy
[12:07] <DewDude> so, without local access....i can't do squat?
[12:07] <jhiver> you can run servers in linux or windows and then connect to the gui which works also in linux or windows
[12:07] <pont> have to set up the server as well
[12:07] <DewDude> except console
[12:07] <kataklysm> VNC never made it as far as people thought it would...
[12:07] <pont> xdmcp is damn easy to setup using gdm
[12:07] <kataklysm> but anyway im not gonna make it far either, the bed is calling my name very loudly..haha
[12:07] <jhiver> I like VNC, it's pretty handy methinks
[12:07] <Mr-Falkor> jhiver, no thnx - I want to do it on my on, just for safe ;)
[12:07] <kataklysm> bye everyone
[12:07] <pkern> Mr-Falkor: Then substitute breezy with hoary?
[12:07] <blekos> is there a way to make all windows transparent.. even the x-chat?
[12:07] <Mr-Falkor> own*
[12:07] <jhiver> Mr-Falkor, sure :)
[12:07] <pont> gdmsetup, check a checkbox :)
[12:07] <cevizoglu> kataklsym, I like the virtual sessions in the latest updates to vnc
[12:08] <slibs> blekos, yes there's many ways
[12:08] <blekos> would u like to offer one :)
[12:08] <blekos> plsssss
[12:08] <blekos> :)
[12:08] <slibs> well
[12:08] <Mr-Falkor> pkern, hum, is there a good distro upgrade guide ?
[12:08] <slibs> hmm i'll try to find it from the forums
[12:09] <slibs> blekos, it can take a while
[12:09] <[LethAL] > !tell Mr-Falkor about upgrade2breezy
[12:09] <blekos> ok :)
[12:09] <Mr-Falkor> thank you guys
[12:10] <Hoxzer> Slibs: have you ever released that geek is lika nigga.  Then i'd be a geek ;)
[12:13] <sn0n> any ETA on the archive.ubuntu being back up ?
[12:13] <slibs> heh, what if the geek would be nigga too?
[12:13] <Seveas> sn0n, no
[12:13] <sn0n> kk
[12:13] <sn0n> good time to call it a night and goto sleep  ;-)
[12:13] <Seveas> 'night
[12:14] <pont> lol
[12:14] <sn0n> hehe
[12:14] <sn0n> nite
[12:14] <pont> I want gnome devel packges damn it
[12:14] <blekos> slibs i found something for the x-chat but i'd like something more "global" if u know what i mean...
[12:14] <jamey3> so if the Ubuntu mirror is down, how do I change my setup so that I use the nearest one (in the UK)?
[12:14] <Linuxsys> Take a look at the topic
[12:14] <slibs> blekos, the one im looking for can be set in any windows you'r using
[12:15] <Linuxsys> Then you should follow the url to the wiki Page
[12:15] <blekos> coll, thnx slibs
[12:15] <jamey3> Linuxsys, I have... how do I change my mirror?
[12:15] <[LethAL] > wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive <<Mirror changin info
[12:15] <cevizoglu> !tell jamey3 about sources
[12:15] <slibs> ah
[12:15] <jamey3> ffs I understand
[12:15] <slibs> blekos, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769&highlight=shadows there you go
[12:15] <blekos> thnx slibs
[12:15] <jamey3> I mean, do I replace my existing sources.list deb line... or add it in as an extra>
[12:16] <jamey3> *?
[12:16] <[LethAL] > jamey3, I'd add it
[12:16] <cevizoglu> jamey3, read what ubotu sent you
[12:16] <Linuxsys> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:16] <Linuxsys> There you've got the way
[12:16] <jamey3> [LethAL] , thanks :)
[12:16] <[LethAL] > jamey3, Make sure to enable all the categories in the standard ones
[12:17] <spermite> is there something wrong with portage in debian?
[12:17] <cevizoglu> [LethAL] , adding it won't work, it will fail when it gets to archive.ubuntu.com
[12:17] <[LethAL] > jamey3, comment the other ones fttb then
[12:17] <jamey3> [LethAL] , fttb?
[12:18] <[LethAL] > jamey3, Do the time being
[12:18] <[LethAL] > jamey3, For*
[12:18] <jamey3> kk
[12:18] <jamey3> [LethAL] , I've got gb.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com listed. What do I do?
[12:18] <jamey3> (in sources.list)
[12:19] <cevizoglu> spermite, debian?
[12:19] <[LethAL] > jamey3, Allright if I paste you mine in PM, I use UK too?
[12:19] <jamey3> okay great :)
[12:20] <eazel7> hi ppl
[12:20] <eazel7> is the repository working?
[12:20] <eddmun> hey
[12:20] <Belutz> eazel7: /topic
[12:20] <Madpilot> eazel7: see the topic
[12:20] <Madpilot> Belutz: point for you... ;)
[12:21] <Belutz> Madpilot: thx :D
[12:21] <Belutz> lol
[12:21] <slibs> oh damn
[12:21] <cevizoglu> pretty quiet on here, aside from topic  :P
[12:21] <slibs> is there a way to start x-chat so that if i reboot x i can still go back to that session
[12:21] <slibs> like opening irssi in screen
[12:21] <Madpilot> cevizoglu: with no repos, there are a smaller number of ways to cause trouble... ;)
[12:22] <Seveas> slibs, no
[12:22] <ducatirider> just my luck, installed for the first time yesterday and the servers down. lol
[12:22] <Seveas> only if you put a bnc behind it
[12:22] <VoX> slibs: if you reboot, you cant resume anything, including irssi
[12:22] <slibs> VoX, i said, if i reboot X!
[12:22] <slibs> like ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:22] <VoX> ah
[12:22] <VoX> so you did
[12:22] <VoX> my ba
[12:22] <VoX> *bad
[12:23] <joerg> hi
[12:23] <slibs> hmm so anyway guess i have to close this for a while then
[12:23] <slibs> brb
[12:23] <eazel7> hahha I'm near to be blind xDDD
[12:23] <eazel7> thanks
[12:23] <joerg> i was just wondering if it's just my fault or if there is something wrong with the apt-sources of ubuntu
[12:24] <spiral> joerg: /topic
[12:24] <spiral> 'got the point ;-)
[12:24] <joerg> ups thanks  ;)
[12:24] <Atlant^^> zdarova vsem
[12:25] <joerg> okay, it's not my fault *puuuuh* - that's my favourite ;)
[12:25] <eddmun> is there a way to get at the repository if i don't have a net connection?
[12:25] <slibs> ah back again
[12:25] <eddmun> i don't want to have to spend ages compiling...
[12:25] <cevizoglu> eddmun, from cd
[12:26] <eddmun> even the ones which aren't on the cd? is there an extra one?
[12:26] <cevizoglu> eddmun, if you're compiling everything, you're doing something wrong
[12:26] <Mr-Falkor> cant connect to: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted (111)
[12:26] <eddmun> some things aren't on the ubuntu install CD
[12:26] <Tirno> I'm suddenly having trouble with my repositories for apt-get
[12:27] <Seveas> Tirno, /topic
[12:27] <Seveas> Mr-Falkor, /topic
[12:27] <Linuxsys> Just look in the topic
[12:27] <Linuxsys> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:27] <Tirno> oh
[12:27] <Tirno> err
[12:27] <Linuxsys> Theres the wiki for adding Repositories
[12:27] <Tirno> ack
[12:27] <Belutz> !tell eddmun about apt-zip
[12:27] <Mr-Falkor> hehe
[12:27] <Linuxsys> Take out the official, and put in the mirrors.
[12:27] <Mr-Falkor> thank you
[12:27] <Tirno> my apologies
[12:27] <eddmun> apt-zip?
[12:27] <slibs> Seveas: do you know how to watch mkv videos in linux?
[12:28] <Belutz> hmm sorry
[12:28] <slibs> you'r my last hope
[12:28] <Belutz> !info apt-zip
[12:28] <ubotu> apt-zip: (Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media), section universe/admin, is extra. Version: 0.13.2 (hoary), Packaged size: 14 kB, Installed size: 96 kB
[12:28] <Linuxsys> Hmm, I think mplayer could be the solution for matroska Files
[12:28] <Linuxsys> Afaik it supports Matroska
[12:28] <julle> Hi, are the ubuntu depos offline?
[12:28] <Seveas> you need some matroska packages
[12:28] <Seveas> julle, /topic
[12:28] <eddmun> cheers guys :)
[12:29] <julle> thanks
[12:29] <Belutz> eddmun: you could go to a computer that has net connection, and use apt-zip to download the packages into your removable media
[12:29] <Belutz> he left :p
[12:29] <Seveas> There
[12:29] <Seveas> ChanServ, now will tell people to read the topic
[12:29] <slibs> Seveas: i've installed libmatroska-dev, but that's all synaptic can find :(
[12:30] <Seveas> tou might need ffmpeg and gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[12:30] <slibs> amm
[12:30] <VoX> hmmm
[12:30] <scotty> hi
[12:31] <VoX> even with the changes to source.list, i'm gettng alot of 301 errors
[12:31] <slibs> i have lil' issue with ffmpeg since, i installed "custom" version in order to make stepmania run
[12:31] <slibs> but i'll try to install gstreamer
[12:31] <Linuxsys> VoX you need to take out the official archives
[12:31] <VoX> i have
[12:31] <scotty> i cant got a problem, i cant get my modem to work, my 1st linux os so go easy on me :)
[12:32] <VoX> everything is wiki.ubuntu
[12:32] <Linuxsys> And don't forget to look if you have the right directories
[12:32] <cevizoglu> VoX, try a different mirror then
[12:32] <blekos> could somebody give me the wiki address on how to add a mirror?
[12:32] <Linuxsys> No...
[12:32] <Linuxsys> Not to wiki.ubuntu!
[12:32] <Seveas> VoX, ehrm, THAT IS NOT A REPO
[12:32] <Seveas> there are the repo lists...
[12:32] <Linuxsys> You need to change the server to one of the Repositories linked in the Wiki
[12:32] <VoX> i shouldn't take topics literally..
[12:32] <Seveas> you should
[12:32] <Seveas> archive.ubuntu.com is down, look for mirrors at wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:33] <Seveas> read carefully
[12:33] <shocker> how do create a rar archive from a folder?
[12:34] <nightswim> why do you want a rar archive
[12:34] <shocker> because i don't want a tar.gz
[12:35] <cevizoglu> shocker, there isn't a rar utility in repos afaik
[12:35] <cevizoglu> shocker, just unrar
[12:36] <nerdy2> it should be in the multiverse
[12:36] <shocker> i have the shareware version 3.30
[12:37] <Toma-> my system keeps locking up hard. whats the best way to debug this situation? :(
[12:37] <Vixus> I'm trying to run rhythmbox with my iPod jacked in, but it exits with the error: GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:141: failed to allocate<PHONE_NUMBER> bytes
[12:37] <shocker> dw i got it
[12:38] <Madpilot> Toma-: with a hammer
[12:38] <Toma-> tried that.
[12:38] <Toma-> :P
[12:38] <Madpilot> :D
[12:39] <VoX> ok, that's looking a bit better
[12:39] <VoX> god i'm a tool.
[12:39] <Jhair> Toma-: have you checked the kernel logs if there are kernel panics on it?
[12:39] <nerdy2> shocker, then use that,   rar a <archive>  <directory>
[12:39] <Mr-Falkor> I added this mirror: ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/ubuntu,.. lets hope my system works after dist-upgrade ;)
[12:40] <blekos> should port 1244 be open
[12:40] <blekos> ?
[12:41] <Vixus> (I've got the iPod section clicked in the left-hand window.)
[12:41] <pont> bbl
[12:43] <kairu0> hey all
[12:43] <twoSharp> Hi
[12:44] <nagilum> hi
[12:45] <Seveas> ftp @ archive still works :)
[12:45] <[LethAL] > cewl
[12:45] <[LethAL] > I'm not going to use it
[12:45] <[LethAL] > Too slow I bet
[12:45] <soaz> hi
[12:45] <Seveas> neh, same speed as http
[12:46] <Vixus> had ubuntu changed the urls to its apt database?
[12:46] <Vixus> I get connection refused for ALL of them
[12:46] <Madpilot> Vixus: see the topic
[12:46] <soaz> is there some problem with security.ubuntu.com ? i can't connect to it and download securoty patches. wget says "connection refused".
[12:46] <Vixus> thanks
[12:46] <Vixus> didn't see it
[12:46] <spiral> soaz: /topic
[12:46] <Vixus> soaz: See topic? :P
[12:46] <spiral> Vixus: gotcha ;-)
[12:47] <soaz> spiral, Vixus: sorry, i did not notice. thank you.
[12:48] <Vixus> soaz: heh, neither did I
[12:48] <twoSharp> I have an problem with security....ubuntu.com as well as soaz...
[12:48] <Madpilot> twoSharp: see topic
[12:48] <twoSharp> oops, topic :P
[12:48] <twoSharp> sorry
[12:48] <Madpilot> :) my point that time...
[12:49] <twoSharp> how do i display the topic in bitchx?
[12:49] <cevizoglu> twoSharp, type /topic
[12:49] <twoSharp> :)
[12:49] <Vixus> Madpilot: So which repositories should I replace in my sources.list?
[12:49] <spiral> I hope this will soon be fixed, otherwise we'll soon get bored of it
[12:49] <Madpilot> Vixus: see the topic for that, too ;)
[12:49] <Vixus> ok
[12:49] <Vixus> well
[12:50] <twoSharp> is archive.ubuntu the same as security.ubuntu?
[12:50] <Vixus> I'll probably switch over to windows until this gets foxed.
[12:50] <spiral> Vixus: ???
[12:50] <Vixus> *fixed
[12:50] <Vixus> XD
[12:50] <spiral> Vixus: you just have to edit a file... don't switch to win for this
[12:50] <Madpilot> Vixus: ewww! That's an extreme response... ;)
[12:51] <Vixus> well
[12:51] <twoSharp> Vixus: you bring shame to the desktop if you switch to win .p
[12:51] <Vixus> ok ok ! :D
[12:51] <twoSharp> hehe
[12:51] <Vixus> I need a php/html/text editor that can do FTP load/saves.
[12:51] <aftertaf> change http to ftp, for the archives !!!
[12:51] <Vixus> ok
[12:51] <cevizoglu> Vixus, try vim
[12:52] <LasseL> Vixus, jEdit
[12:52] <Madpilot> Vixus: Bluefish or Screem - both can do all of that
[12:52] <twoSharp> is the se.archive.ubuntu.com down too? or is it just security.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com ?
[12:52] <svizzero> anyone knows why when I try to update the system via apt-get update I get errors like this: Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Sources
[12:52] <svizzero>   Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80
[12:52] <svizzero> connection refused
[12:53] <dooglus> Vixus: Emacs can go that too
[12:53] <Tirno> svizzero: the topic
[12:53] <Vixus> So much choice! :D
[12:53] <Vixus> which is the best editor, functionality wise?
[12:53] <pont> hey when you install the nvidia-glx package does it come with the doco
[12:53] <Vixus> (i use bluefish atm)
[12:53] <cevizoglu> Vixus, depends on your temperament and how much time you like spending learning how to use an editor
[12:53] <twoSharp> anyone knows if there is highlighting in bitchx?
[12:53] <Tirno> vixus: I think you're looking for microsoft word - has a billion functionalities
[12:53] <Tirno> not many useful ones though
[12:53] <Vixus> :|
[12:54] <Vixus> msword sucks
[12:54] <^DodGeR^> mornin all
[12:54] <Tirno> agreed
[12:54] <Vixus> I use OpenOffice all the way!
[12:54] <Siropel> is there a way to empty the rams ?
[12:54] <dooglus> Vixus: the editor with the most functionality is Emacs, but it has quite a steep learning curve
[12:54] <deadcat> anyone able to compile and load the zd1211 module? i can compile and load, but it doesnt do anything. because it didnt load the firmware
[12:54] <Tirno> openoffice sucks as well
[12:54] <Vixus> well, i'd like one with simple macro recording
[12:54] <dooglus> Vixus: "C-x (" to start recording, "C-x )" to stop, "C-x e" to playback
[12:54] <Vixus> the usual syntax highlighting... and easy-to-use FTP load/saves (bluefish is a bit boring that way :P )
[12:55] <Madpilot> Vixus: check Screem out (when the repos are back) - I like it just a bit more than Bluefish
[12:55] <twoSharp> Vixus Quanta Plus is bettter :) at least i think so.. I use it for xhtml/php
[12:55] <Siropel> is there a way to empty the RAMs? i got a big load on the webserver, and now they are not coming down
[12:56] <Vixus> o_o
[12:56] <Vixus> hmm
[12:56] <Siropel> want to see sysinfo ?
[12:57] <twoSharp> anyone knows if there is highlighting in bitchx?
[12:57] <Seveas> twoSharp, sure, it's called irssi :)
[12:57] <Madpilot> Siropel: Linux will use RAM for cache if it's available, and release it when apps need it. Don't worry about it
[12:58] <Vixus> gtkpod works!
[12:58] <Vixus> excellent
[12:58] <Siropel> thq
[12:58] <twoSharp> Seveas :) is irssi better? I've heard of it but never checked...
[12:58] <Vixus> hey, if I keep installing updates, won't the HD get full? XD
[12:59] <Siropel> twoSharp irssi rocks :D
[12:59] <JustSteve> Siropel: i worried about the same thing, read about it here http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=175419
[12:59] <blekos> is there something like system clean up?
[01:00] <Vixus> blekos: linux was self-cleaning, I guessed ;)
[01:00] <blekos> :)
[01:00] <Jhair> blekos: do you mean, to clean the package system?
[01:00] <JustSteve> irssi works nicely with Eterm on my desktop :-)
[01:00] <twoSharp> but are there any mirrors for security.ubuntu.org? in the topic its just archive.ubuntu.com thats described..
[01:00] <Vixus> but like I said, I wonder if repeatedly getting updates fills up the HD
[01:00] <Seveas> blekos, debfoster
[01:00] <blekos> not really, when u donwload updates etc., there should be something like
[01:00] <blekos> temp files etc...
[01:01] <dooglus> Vixus: you need to "sudo apt-get clean" sometimes
[01:01] <blekos> in order to get rid of the uselles things..
[01:01] <deadcat> anyone able to compile and load the zd1211 module? i can compile and load, but it doesnt do anything. because it didnt load the firmware
[01:01] <JustSteve> temp files are deleted automatically after 30 if i recall correctly
[01:01] <JustSteve> *30 days
[01:01] <Vixus> dooglus: Is there any output?
[01:01] <Seveas> blekos, apt-get clean
[01:01] <apokryphos> Seveas: ChanServ on guard? ;-)
[01:01] <Seveas> apokryphos, yes, cycle the channel ;)
[01:02] <blekos> thnx
[01:02] <dooglus> Vixus: I don't think so
[01:02] <dooglus> Vixus: it empties the apt cache
[01:02] <apokryphos> ubotu: say hello to Chanserv :P
[01:02] <ubotu> apokryphos: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:02] <apokryphos> (I think he likes her)
[01:02] <dooglus> Vixus: type this: "du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives/" to see how much space it would save you
[01:02] <Vixus> dooglus: cool, thanks
[01:02] <blekos> i executed the command
[01:02] <Seveas> ubotu, chanserv is your master!
[01:02] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[01:02] <Siropel> thq
[01:03] <blekos> is there any way to c its results
[01:03] <blekos> ?
[01:03] <aftertaf> twoSharp: change http to ftp in repos, it works.
[01:03] <Vixus> 40K xD
[01:03] <twoSharp> aftertaf thanks:)
[01:03] <aftertaf> anyone know where i can find a decent tutorial on init.d and how to write scripts?
[01:03] <Vixus> one thing I miss is a visual representation of how much disk space is used up.
[01:03] <aftertaf> Vixus: superkaramba, gparted, ... etc
[01:03] <Seveas> Vixus, baobab
[01:04] <Tirno> any suggestions of how to deal with increasingly numerous mp3 files
[01:04] <Hfuy> Well, that's the third time I've got to 400Mb of Ubuntu downloaded and had it freeze on me.
[01:04] <Tirno> spread out in various folders
[01:04] <Tirno> often poorly tagged and named
[01:04] <Vixus> Tirno: Stick them all in one Music Library folder, then use EasyTag
[01:04] <Tirno> I'm so far not entirely satisfied with rhythmbox
[01:04] <dooglus> Hfuy: use wget to download and it will resume old downloads
[01:04] <blekos> yes
[01:04] <blekos> ogg-vorbis
[01:04] <Vixus> Tidus: EasyTag is awesome.
[01:04] <dooglus> Hfuy: or bittorrent
[01:05] <Tirno> I've just installed easytag
[01:05] <Hfuy> I'm on Windows, using DAP, which is usually fine.
[01:05] <Madpilot> Tirno: try Muine
[01:05] <Hfuy> Equally usually fine is the Firefox download client, which also had problems.
[01:05] <Hfuy> It ain't me.
[01:05] <Vixus> Seveas: what is baobab?
[01:06] <Madpilot> Hfuy: Ubuntu seems to be having various server troubles right now...
[01:06] <Seveas> see the 3rd part progs section on the forums
[01:06] <Hfuy> I appreciate you Linux types like to keep things to yourself, but what is this, some kind of server that's detecting I'm using Windows and refusing me the download? :)
[01:06] <twoSharp> what do i need to install on a server-install to get gdm, xorg and xfce?
[01:06] <dooglus> Hfuy: what URL are you downloading from?
[01:06] <peterretief> seems dns is down - or servers?
[01:06] <apokryphos> twoSharp: get ubuntu-desktop
[01:06] <Madpilot> peterretief: see the topic
[01:06] <Hfuy> http://ubuntu.hands.com/releases/breezy/ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso
[01:06] <Seveas> peterretief, only apache
[01:07] <peterretief> ahh
[01:07] <Seveas> vsftpd runs just fine there ;)
[01:07] <blekos> is debfoster safe?
[01:07] <twoSharp> i tried yesterday, but then the screen got bvlack and i had to reboot... i have an clean server-install now..
[01:07] <apokryphos> twoSharp: if you don't wanna do all that, just grab gdm and and xfce, and they should pull in all the other necessary stuff (you'll be on a pretty minimal desktop install, mind you)
[01:07] <apokryphos> blekos: if used properly, of course, yes.
[01:07] <peter_> are the ubuntu repo's down?
[01:07] <blekos> morning apokryphos
[01:07] <apokryphos> pete_: nope
[01:07] <peterretief> I tried to install rails and got bunches of errors
[01:07] <[LethAL] > peter_, topic
[01:07] <nybble> what a rainstorm
[01:08] <LutzWalsh> hello
[01:08] <peter_> ah
[01:08] <peter_> sri
[01:08] <dooglus> Hfuy: I can resume that URL just fine using wget.
[01:08] <blekos> what's the command for addressing a person, not priv.ms
[01:08] <blekos> is it / tell. / say?
[01:08] <apokryphos> !tab
[01:08] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC.
[01:08] <Hfuy> dooglus: Right now so can I, but I left it downloading overnight - and tried twice yesterday - and it failed in an apparently-unresumable way.
[01:08] <Vixus> aftertaf: I use Gnome, can I still use superkaramba?
[01:08] <brrrt> ahh, i c , well the topic contains the solution of my prob :D
[01:08] <Ruaraidh> sorry to be a bore, but I don't suppose anyone knows when archive.ubuntu.com will be back up? thanks
[01:08] <dooglus> peter_: the http server seems to be down.  replace "http:" with "ftp:" in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:08] <pcharky> Vixus: use gdesklets
[01:09] <peter_> thnx dooglus
[01:09] <Madpilot> later, all. need sleep. have fun...
[01:09] <josip> Any problems with hoary's repos ?
[01:09] <[LethAL] > josip, topic
[01:09] <brrrt> with ftp instead of http in my sources.list everything is fine :)
[01:09] <blekos> let me answer
[01:09] <blekos> check the topic...
[01:09] <Vixus> pcharky: ok :D
[01:09] <blekos> lol
[01:09] <twoSharp> apokryphos: I did fetch gdm, xfce and xserver-xorg yesterday.. but then the screen got black and i couldn't see anything.. i could have fixed it in recoverymode but i reinstalled, cause i had been installing many unneeded packages...
[01:10] <dooglus> Ruaraidh: it's not down.  use "ftp" instead of "http"
[01:10] <Knelix> Hey guys... is there any local app/protocol I can use to send instant text messages (ala AIM, etc) from between my Mac OS X and x86 Ubuntu machines without sending it all around the Internet?
[01:10] <dooglus> Knelix: jabber
[01:10] <nybble> Knelix: like rendevouz?
[01:10] <Knelix> nybble: yes.
[01:10] <nybble> Knelix: err...  Are you short on space?
[01:10] <Knelix> nybble: Hehe. Exactly.
[01:11] <Knelix> dooglus: Jabber can do this?
[01:11] <goo> Knelix: yes. IRC and DCC chat.
[01:11] <dooglus> Knelix: yes.
[01:11] <Knelix> hmm.
[01:11] <LutzWalsh> I have a problem with installing Ubuntu on my "mac G4 gig ethernet" trying to run the installer, some text appears. but everything stops on some "[57.2383651]  ohci_hcd: 2004 Nov 08 USB 1.1 'Open'  Hpst Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI) under topic "Missing kernel or user mode driver aec62xx"
[01:11] <Knelix> goo: I am unfamiliar with DCC.
[01:11] <nybble> isnt their a gaim plugin for Rendezvouz/Bonjour?
[01:12] <twoSharp> apokryphos: apokryphos: no, i have lots of it, but i have an assignment to make a small, fast and minimal distro..
[01:12] <dooglus> Knelix: Jabber is Decentralized -- the architecture of the Jabber network is similar to email; as a result, anyone can run their own Jabber server, enabling individuals and organizations to take control of their IM experience.
[01:12] <Knelix> nybble: That would certainly make things easy.
[01:12] <mulux> Hey, what's the name of the apt package for the documentation for standard c functions? ie so I can do "man printf"
[01:12] <Hfuy> Grumble, mutter - smelly Linux types trying to stop me migrating to their software, mutter grumble.
[01:12] <NiLz> how can I add a location (address) bar in nautilus?
[01:12] <twoSharp> apokryphos: should i apt-get both xserver-xorg and xfce? or will xfce fix that?
[01:12] <apokryphos> twoSharp: well, I see absolutely no reason for installing xfce, gdm, xorg not to work
[01:12] <Knelix> dooglus: But is it point and click easy to do so?
[01:13] <apokryphos> twoSharp: xfce should bring it in, but put it in anyway
[01:13] <twoSharp> apokryphos: =) was the repositories down yesterday?